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"content": "So it has to be somehow self-aware about the drift.",
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"content": "It has to be self-aware about the drift, and then look at the thing as a gestalt as a whole and say it doesn’t have coherence as a whole. When authors write books, they will write the book and then they’ll go and revise it, take into account all the end and the beginning and the middle and rewrite it to achieve coherence so that it doesn’t end up at a nonsensical place.",
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"content": "Maybe the process of revising is what reasoning is, and then the process of revising is how you get closer and closer to truth. At least I approached that way, you just say a bunch of bullshit first and then you get it better. You start a bullshit and then you-",
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"content": "Create a draft and then you iterate on that draft until it has coherence, until it all adds up basically.",
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"content": "But do you think the Chinese Government is using it to manipulate the minds of Americans?",
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"content": "No.",
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"content": "Is that something that you think we should worry about? You have different states that are trying to ban it.",
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"content": "I don’t think this is some Chinese Government plot, but the TikTok algorithm is entirely AI-powered. So it is really just trying to find the most viral thing possible. It’s what is going to keep you glued to the screen. That’s it. Now, on sheer numbers, there are on the order of two billion Muslims in the world, and I think a much smaller number of Jewish people, 20 million, something, many orders of magnitude fewer. So if you just look at content production, just on sheer numbers basis, this is going to be overwhelmingly antisemitic, just on a numbers basis.",
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"content": "No, I’m saying you would like more. More like will be beneficial to you. It would be like coffee.",
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"content": "I like to get things done. I like to be useful. That is one of the hardest things to do is to be useful.",
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"content": "When you say you like to get things done, like, in terms of what gives you satisfaction? When you complete a project, when something that you invent comes to fruition, and you see people enjoying it, that feeling.",
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"content": "Yes, doing something useful for other people that I like doing.",
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"content": "Yeah, this was like, probably the most…",
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"content": "It was 95.",
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"content": "I think we even got some sort of recognition because it was the most advanced Java application on Java at the time because it was so ridiculously hard. It was a really crappy technology at the time, but this was done on it.",
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"content": "The thing is that if you downloaded the Java applet, we could transmit the vector data, not just a bitmap. And this was when everyone was on a modem. So, sometimes on 20 kilobits modem trying to download a map image would take forever, whereas if you had been downloading the vector data that locally rendered using the Java applet was relatively speaking super fast. That’s what made it cool.",
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"content": "Right.",
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"content": "About 500 million years.",
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"content": "So, is it sad that we never leave because, in 500 million years, that happens? Is that what you’re saying?",
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"content": "No. I just think like if there are two futures, and one future is we’re out there among the stars, and the things we read about and see in science fiction movies, the good ones, are true, and we have these starships, and we’re going see what other planets are like, and we’re a multi-planet species, and the scope and scale of consciousness is expanded across many civilizations, and many planets, and many star systems, this is a great future. This is a wonderful thing to me. And that’s what we should strive for.",
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"content": "Oh, so every time there’s a new major version, you’ll rename it to something more ridiculous – or memorable and beautiful? Sorry, not ridiculous, of course.",
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"content": "If you see the full array of neural nets that are operating the cars, it’s kind of boggles the mind. There’s so many layers, it’s crazy. We started off with simple neural nets that were basically image recognition on a single frame from a single camera and then trying to knit those together with it with C. I should say we’re really primarily running C here because C++ is too much overhead. And we have our own C compiler. So, to get maximum performance, we actually wrote our own C compiler and are continuing to optimize our C compiler for maximum efficiency. In fact, we’ve just recently done a new rev on a C compiler that will compile directly to our autopilot hardware.",
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"content": "So you want to compile the whole thing down with your own compiler…",
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"content": "Yeah, absolutely.",
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"content": "Who came up with the PayPal name?",
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"content": "I actually don’t know.",
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"content": "People call you guys the “\nPayPal Mafia\n” now. Thiel wrote that in his book.",
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"content": "You know, I don’t know who did the ‘PayPal’. I was never a huge fan of ‘PayPal’ as a name. The reason being that I thought it made sense for the company to kind of…",
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"content": "So that’s a really good example then because there is a Community Note on that tweet that says, you said this thing on the X day, blah, blah, blah. So in that instance, the Community Notes didn’t work. So you’re saying that that’s a way of solving misinformation. But you are literally saying one of those Community Notes is wrong.",
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"content": "The Community Note may be referring to a thing where I went on a trip with my father to Zambia, but I never saw any mine or anything. So there’s no mine.",
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"content": "Right. But at this point, I’m just saying the Community Note says it is. So you are saying it’s this big great panacea, but yet it’s literally on your own tweet the Community Notes, according to you, are wrong.",
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"content": "If they’re referencing an article, then the article may not be wrong, which they’re still… Community Notes is not going to be perfect. The batting average of Community Notes I found to be extremely high.",
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"content": "Yeah, and you can see it’s… We’re talking about a 100X growth in batteries for electric vehicles to achieve this mission. And we are going to get there. It’s just a matter of how fast. And our intention is to accelerate it.",
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"content": "Yeah, you basically need on the order of roughly 10 TWh a year of battery production to transition the global fleet of vehicles to electric.",
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"content": "And the average vehicle lasts 15 years. So we’re talking about 150 TWh, give or take, to transition the whole electric, all vehicles of all types, to electric.",
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"content": "Yeah. So it’s a lot of batteries, basically.",
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"content": "… consequential individual in the world right now. He runs the most innovative companies in the world, Tesla, SpaceX, Starlink, which is part of that Neuralink, The Boring Company, X, and X.AI. And he’s disrupted each of these lanes. He’s moved at breakneck speeds, but he’s facing a storm of controversy in the process.\nHe joins us today following a visit, as you all know so well, and we discussed earlier, on Monday to Israel where he met with the prime minister there and the president of Israel. And we’re going to talk about everything. And my hope is that we can talk about how he thinks about his influence, about his power, about all of it, and we’re going to talk about innovation and everything else. I want to say just two other things real quick.",
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"content": "Sure.",
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"content": "We met each other for the first time 16 years ago.",
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"content": "Yeah, it’s a long time.",
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"content": "Thank you. Thank you, Tesla team. Totally agree.\nSpeaker B on stage:\nYeah. That’s it.\nYeah. Rodney Westmoreland, managing the construction here at Tesla. What I would like to say is, one, shout out to the team. The team has been working effortlessly, a very, very tough project here, for 24 hours a day, it seems like, around the clock, to have this complete.\nThe thing that sets us apart from a lot of other construction, we have a construction company here. The thing that sets us apart is that we’re integrated in the manufacturing process. So every detail that comes from Drew’s mouth is directly implicated into the system that we’re building. That way, what would typically take three or four months to create a specification, our design team is working right with the manufacturing team to allow us to speed that process up tremendously.\nYeah, it’s definitely an important part of the vertically integrated approach, is to be able to design the factory around the equipment, in fact, together with the equipment, so you can build the factory at lower costs and more quickly.\nI’m Scott, I focus on cell design. I think it’s hard to put into words how inspiring this is, been at it for such a long time with Tesla. And I really hope others do join us…\nSince when Scott?\nSince 2005, with many of you. Thank you. Year before Drew, but who’s keeping track?\nBut I’m really stoked what the team’s been able to accomplish over the last short period of time, about a year, it’s been really an incredible transformation. I mean, hopefully, what we’ve shown you, inspires you to join us or join somebody else in the effort. And I couldn’t think of a greater, more intelligent, more hardworking team to be working on for this problem.\nPeter\n: I’m Peter, I lead the manufacturing improvement team. And I guess the point that I’d like to make is, manufacturing improvements is like the accelerator. So you think about the execution that Rodney talked about, in terms of how fast we’ve been able to put together this factory, which is amazing and something that’s been really incredible to be a part of. That’s not enough. What we need to do is improve the manufacturing technology, that’s the real accelerator, and that’s what we’re really focused on. Elon talks about it all the time, that really going and improving that system is what will enable us to get to the scale and the cost that we need.\nAnd then the other point that I would make is on the recruiting side. It doesn’t matter if you know about batteries. If you come from any industry, you can do something fantastic in the work that we’re doing. We talk to people from industries that you wouldn’t imagine. Like I talked to a guy who makes golf balls, and he has stuff which is really impactful for what we’re doing. So, if you’re in any industry and you want to be impactful here, come join us, it’d be great.\nHi, I’m Tony. I’ve been working in lithium and cathode materials for almost 23 years now, and this is the most growth I’ve seen in a company; I’ve been here a little over a year and a half. We are hiring amazing people that are allowing us to leverage technology that most of the industry is struggling to achieve. To answer the question, how are we going to do this. We are really advancing the materials manufacturing for cathodes and for lithium beyond what has been accomplished in the previous 20 years.\nIt’s exciting.\nYeah. My name is Turner, work closely with the team, have worked a lot with everyone here. On the cathode and upstream materials side , it’s really important that everyone understand that this growth is coming. This growth is real; we are going to make all of these batteries, and everyone needs to grow with us, the entire supply chain needs to grow with us. And if you have an idea that simplifies anything in the supply chain, come talk to us, come work with us and let’s do it.\nAny existing specification is wrong, any existing manufacturing method is wrong, process equipment, it’s wrong, it’s just a question of how wrong. Quote Elon Musk.",
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"content": "Exactly. We’re wrong, just the question of how wrong. Let’s try to be less wrong.",
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"content": "So, tell us how we’re wrong and how we can do it better so that we can accelerate and improve as fast as possible.",
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"content": "All right. Well, I guess thank you, everyone, for coming. I hope you liked the presentation. Very exciting future ahead. We’re going to work our damnedest to transition the world to sustainable energy as quickly as possible, and your support and help is key to that success. So, thanks again; super appreciated; and look forward to the next event. Thank you.",
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"content": "Okay. So, um, one of the things you’re doing is a lot of government deals. You’re doing this lunar lander, you did the rocket one. You’re getting billions from… $2.9 billion, is that right?",
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"content": "Well, right now, we’re not getting anything because we’re being sued.",
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"content": "Right, that’s right. Sorry. Okay. Yeah. But getting a lot of money.",
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"content": "Hopefully, we’ll get it.",
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"content": "By design.",
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"content": "Yeah. People are posting pictures of when they’re really happy. They’re modifying those pictures to be better looking. Even if they are not modifying the pictures, they’re, at least, selecting the pictures for the best lightning, the best angle. So, people basically seem they are way better looking than they basically really are.",
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"content": "Right.",
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"content": "And they’re way happier seeming than they really are. So, if you look at everyone on Instagram, you might think, “Man, there are all these happy, beautiful people, and I’m not that good looking, and I am not happy. So, I must suck,” you know. And that’s going to make you feel sad; when, in fact, those people you think are super happy, actually, not that happy. Some of them are really depressed. They’re very sad. Some of the happiest-seeming people are actually some of the saddest people in reality. And nobody looks good all the time. It doesn’t matter who you are.",
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"content": "Let me ask this.",
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"content": "If you kind of want to have an argument-",
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"content": "When you tweet-",
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"content": "Post.",
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"content": "You did almost exactly half a million. You were scoffed in 2014 because no one since Henry Ford, with the Model T, had come close to that kind of growth rate for cars. You were scoffed and you actually hit 500,000 cars – 510,000 or whatever produced. But five years ago, last time you came to TED, I asked you about full self-driving, and you said, “Yep, this very year, I am confident that we will have a car going from LA to New York without any intervention.”",
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"content": "Yeah, I don’t want to blow your mind, but I’m not always right.",
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"content": "(laughs) But what’s the difference between those two? Why has full self-driving in particular been so hard to predict?",
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"content": "I mean, the thing that really got me, and I think it’s gonna get a lot of other people, is that there are just so many false dawns with self-driving, where you think you’ve got the problem, have a handle on the problem, and then it, nope, turns out, you just hit a ceiling. Because if you were to plot the progress, the progress looks like a log curve. It’s like a series of log curves. So, most people don’t know what a log curve is, I suppose.",
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"content": "I do love food.",
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"content": "Yeah. I mean, to be totally frank, I mean, speaking for myself, I’d rather eat tasty food and live a shorter life.",
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"content": "Yeah. Those moments of enjoying a great meal. And then even talking about it, they’re valuable. They’re worth something. Yeah. We don’t want to eat\nSoylent Green\nand live to be 160.",
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"content": "No. Tasty food is great; it’s one of the best things about life.",
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"content": "I won’t ask you to predict how many more children you’re going to have tonight. I want to move on to some future talk. And that’s part of where I’m going with this Tesla Bot. I am not as good at Twitter as you are. But people on Twitter are asking me what’s going to happen on 12/9. Can you tell me what’s going to happen on 12/9?",
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"content": "Nothing as far as I know. I don’t know where this came from. This is just one of those memes that came out of nowhere. But as far as I know, nothing. But maybe something will happen that I’m not aware of.",
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"content": "All right. So I want to ask now a little bit farther out in the future and into 2022. And we can’t get to all your future projects. But I thought a fun way to do this might be I’m going to name some of the projects and then give you 60 seconds, and you tell me what your plan is in 2022 to move that project along and what we can expect from it. But 60 seconds, you only get 60 seconds.",
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"content": "Okay.",
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"content": "How do you feel about that?",
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"content": "Well, I think I’ve expressed my thoughts on that front. I think he should put more energy into getting to orbit than lawsuits. You cannot sue your way to the Moon, no matter how good your lawyers are.",
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"content": "Yeah. So why is he doing that?",
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"content": "I don’t know.",
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"content": "Especially, all right. Let’s talk about Space. You had a recent Space… you’ve sent up a bunch of civilians into Space. You not send yourself up.",
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"content": "No, I not send myself up. I suppose I will at some point. But my goal is not to send myself up. My goal is to open up Space for humanity and ultimately set us on a path to becoming a spacefaring civilization and a multi-planet species.",
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"content": "Yes. So you don’t want to go up yourself?",
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"content": "It’s neither here nor there. I will go at some point.",
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"content": "What’s the difference in price?",
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"content": "Between our Falcon 9 and competitors?",
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"content": "Using a reusable rocket.",
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"content": "Yeah, sure. It’s really gigantic. With Falcon 9, we still have to lose the upper stage. And you can think of each stage being like the equivalent of a jet airplane. So the boost stage is like the big jet airplane, the upper stage is the small jet airplane. We still throw away the small jet airplane every time. So Falcon 9 is able to be the most competitive rocket in the world because we recover the boost stage and the fairing. But still, our best-case marginal cost of launch, not taking into account overhead allocation, is about $15 million.",
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"content": "Hi, Elon, to your left here in the white Model Y, Ryan McCaffrey from the Ride the Lightning Tesla podcast. Curious about Cybertruck. It was interesting to see where you had it in on the battery technology front. I’m sort of curious what you see for it on the production front. Is its volume… – you know, trucks are so popular in America. Do you see its volume equaling the 3 or the Y in the future? And also, were you able to get… – Teslas able to legally be sold in Texas as part of the Giga Texas deal?",
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"content": "Well, it’s hard to say what the volume exactly would be for the Cybertruck. The orders are gigantic. We have like, I don’t know, well over half a million orders, I think maybe 600,000 or ,… – It’s a lot, basically, we stopped counting. So I think there’s probably room for, I don’t know, at least like a unit volume of like 250,000 to 300,000 a year, maybe more.\nNow, we are designing the Cybertruck to meet the American spec. Because if you try to design a car to meet the superset of all global requirements, you can’t make the Cybertruck; it’s impossible. So it really is designed for the American market, but this is the biggest market. Our North American market is the biggest market for pickup trucks by far or large pickup trucks.\nAnd then I think we’ll probably make an international version of the Cybertruck that’ll be kind of smaller, kind of like a tight Wolverine package. It’ll still be cooler, but it’ll be smaller because you just can’t make a giant truck like that for most markets. So, yeah, but it’s going to be great. And I don’t know. I think probably we’ll be able to sell directly in Texas. We do pretty well right now. But it is a bit weird not being able to actually conclude a transaction in Texas, but it’s got to be like a click on a server based in California. But weirdly, we can do leasing in Texas, but not selling. Hopefully, that’ll get cleared up in the future.",
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"content": "Elon, great job with everything that you’re doing. It’s Ross Gerber from Gerber Kawasaki. Your team’s amazing. What I’m most curious about, these innovations are incredible, but on my drive up here fully on autopilot for 400 miles, the entire state is brown, and this is ultimately about climate. Has there been some analysis done if all these things are achieved, what will its direct impact be on climate?",
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"content": "I think it will have a very significant impact because it will stop the\nCO2 ppm\nfrom growing as it is every year. I should say, I try to view the whole climate thing as a science question as much as possible. Science, you always question your hypothesis. Is it true? Is not true? Or assign a probability to a given hypothesis. And I should say that my original interest in electric vehicles predates the climate issue. When I was in high school, I thought, “Man, if we don’t figure out electric cars, the whole economy’s going to collapse when we run out of oil.” So we better figure out electric cars and sustainable energy, or civilization’s going to crumble.\nAnd then it was only later that the significance of the climate risk became apparent. And we were also able, using\nfracking\nand other types of technology to access a lot more fossil fuels than previously thought, which is helpful for lowering the cost of gasoline, but it’s pretty bad for the total tonnage of CO2 that you could put in the atmosphere. It’s now greatly beyond what people previously thought.\nAs we were just going through this presentation, it is an absolutely monumental task to accelerate the advent of sustainable energy. The entire global economy is still more than 99% dependent on – or call it roughly 99% – dependent on fossil fuels. So although electric cars get a lot of press right now, as a percentage of the total global fleet, it’s practically nothing. I would say, yes, less than 1% of the global fleet is electric right now because of two billion cars and trucks and whatnot in use.\nSo there’s a massive amount of work ahead. Just insane, like hard to comprehend how much work is ahead to get the new vehicle production to be sustainable, to massively increase the amount of stationary storage, which is critical because renewable energy is intermittent. Wind and solar are intermittent. Sometimes the wind doesn’t blow and, this is obvious, the sun doesn’t shine at night. So you got to have batteries – a massive, massive number of batteries.",
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"content": "Oh, a requirement? That’s a good requirement.",
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"content": "Yeah.",
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"content": "In that case in that house.",
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"content": "Yeah, it’ll probably sell for less, but still, I don’t care.",
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"content": "And I’m saying-",
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"content": "Then I say, sir, that you don’t know what you’re talking about.",
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"content": "Really?",
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"content": "Yes. Because you can’t give a single example of hateful content. Not even one tweet. And yet you claimed that the hateful content was high. That’s false.",
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"content": "What’s more important – rockets or cars? Actually, that’s a good first question.",
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"content": "Well, I guess they are both important. I guess, my career is Mars and cars.",
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"content": "Mars and cars.",
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"content": "We need to transition to sustainable energy and become a spacefaring civilization.",
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"content": "Listen, man, we’ve taken up a lot of your time. You had a child recently.",
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"content": "Yeah, I got to get back to it.",
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"content": "It’s amazing that you had the time to come down here. And I really appreciate that. I appreciate everything you do, man. I’m glad you’re out there. And I really appreciate you coming down here and sharing your perspective.",
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"content": "Well, I think you’ve got a great show. Thanks for having me on.",
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"content": "That’s it.",
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"content": "Yeah, it was a pit in our parking lot.",
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"content": "But do you have to give them some sort of blueprint from your ultimate idea, and do they have to approve it? Like, how does that work?",
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"content": "We just started off with the pit.",
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"content": "It drives itself.",
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"content": "It’s driving itself better every day. We’re about to release the software that will enable you to just turn it on, and it’ll drive from highway on-ramp to highway exit, do lane changes, overtake other cars-",
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"content": "Jesus.",
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"content": "To go from one interchange to the next. If you get on, say, the 405, get off 300 miles later, and go through several highway interchanges, and just overtake other cars, and hook into the nav system, and then-.",
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"content": "They’re awesome.",
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"content": "Yeah, the doors are awesome. But you know if you have a roof rack and like how do you stop the doors from smashing?",
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"content": "You’re smart.",
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"content": "The model Y has a roof rack, though.",
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"content": "Yeah. Safe to say. So, like I said, somehow controversially, you’ve been a proponent of peace on Twitter on X.",
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"content": "Yeah.",
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"content": "So let me ask you about the wars going on today and to see what the path to peace could be. How do you hope the current war in Israel and Gaza comes to an end? What path do you see that can minimize human suffering in the longterm in that part of the world?",
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"content": "Well, I think that part of the world is definitely, if you look up… There is no easy answer in the dictionary. It’ll be the picture of the Middle East in Israel especially. So there is no easy answer. This is strictly my opinion is that the goal of Hamas was to provoke an overreaction from Israel. They obviously did not expect to have a military victory, but they really wanted to commit the worst atrocities that they could in order to provoke the most aggressive response possible from Israel, and then leverage that aggressive response to rally Muslims worldwide for the course of Gaza and Palestine, which they have succeeded in doing. So the counterintuitive thing here, I think that the thing that I think should be done, even though it’s very difficult, is that I would recommend that Israel engage in the most conspicuous acts of kindness possible, everything, that is the actual thing that we’re taught the goal of Hamas.",
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"content": "… be very skeptically, any organization that claims to be completely truthful, because they’re not and so that very claim is false. So I think it’s important to reflect on what mistakes we’re making and try to make fewer of them in the future.",
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"content": "Unlike media.\nCould you tell us about X Corp? Is this just something that’s a legal thing that you had to do, or is there maybe something more to it?",
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"content": "There is something more to it.",
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"content": "It may be. What’s the odds of this being a replayed memory? If you had a guess. More than 50%?",
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"content": "There’s no way to assign a probability with accuracy here.",
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"content": "Right. But roughly, if you had a…- just gut instinct.",
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"content": "Well, I don’t have a Neuralink in my brain, so I’d say right now 0%, but at the point at which you do have a Neuralink, then it rises above 0%.",
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"content": "And you want to achieve as many high frame rates like a video game? You want full resolution, high frame rate…",
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"content": "High frame rate, low latency, low jitter. One of the things we’re moving towards now is no post-processing of the image through the image signal processor. What happens for almost all cameras is that there’s a lot of post-processing done in order to make pictures look pretty. We don’t care about pictures looking pretty. We just want the data, so we’re moving just raw photon counts.\nThe image that the computer sees is actually much more than what you would see if you represented it on a camera. It’s got much more data. And even in very low light conditions, you can see that there’s a small photon count difference between the spot here and the spot there, which means that it can see in the dark incredibly well because it can detect these tiny differences in photon counts, like, much better than you would possibly imagine. And then we also save 13 milliseconds on latency.",
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"content": "From removing the post-processing on the image?",
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"content": "Yes, because we’ve got eight cameras, and then there’s roughly one and a half milliseconds or so, maybe 1.6 milliseconds of latency for each camera. Basically, bypassing the image processor gets us back 13 milliseconds of latency, which is important. And we track latency all the way from photon hits the camera to all the steps that it’s got to go through to get… go through the various neural nets and the C code. There’s a little bit of C++ there as well. Maybe a lot, but the core stuff, the heavy-duty compute, is all in C.\nSo we track that latency all the way to an output command to the drive unit to accelerate, the brakes just to slow down, the steering turn left or right. Because you got to output a command, that’s got to go to a controller, and some of these controllers have an update frequency that’s maybe 10 Hertz or something like that, which is slow – that’s like, now you lose 100 milliseconds, potentially. Then we want to update the drivers on the steering and braking control to have more like 100 Hertz instead of 10 Hertz, and then you get a 10-millisecond latency instead of 100 milliseconds worst-case latency.\nActually, jitter is more of a challenge than the latency. Latency is like you can anticipate and predict, but if you’ve got a stack-up of things going from the camera to the computer, through then a series of other computers, and finally to an actuator on the car – if you have a stack-up of tolerances, of timing tolerances, then you can have quite a variable latency, which is called jitter. And that makes it hard to anticipate exactly how you should turn the car or accelerate because if you’ve got maybe 150, 200 milliseconds of jitter, then you could be off by about 2.2 seconds. And this could make a big difference.",
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"content": "Not necessarily bad, right?",
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"content": "Yeah, it’s not necessarily bad; it’s just outside of human control. Now, the thing that’s going to be tricky here is that it’s going to be very tempting to use A.I. as a weapon. In fact, it will be used as a weapon. So, the on ramp to serious A.I., the danger is going to be more humans using it against each other, I think, most likely. That will be the danger.",
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"content": "How far, do you think, we are from something that can make its own mind up whether or not something’s ethically or morally correct, or whether or not it wants to do something, or whether or not it wants to improve itself, or whether or not it wants to protect itself from people or from other A.I.? How far away from something that is really truly sentient?",
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"content": "Well, I mean, you could argue that any group of people… – like a company is essentially a cybernetic collective of people and machines. That’s what a company is. And then, there are different levels of complexity in the way these companies are formed. There are like a collective A.I. in the Google search where we’re all sort of plugged in as like nerds on the network, like leaves on a big tree. And we are all feeding this network with our questions and answers. We’re all collectively programming the A.I. And Google plus all the humans that connect to it are one giant cybernetic collective. This is also true of Facebook and Twitter and Instagram and all these social networks. They’re giant cybernetic collectives.",
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"content": "No.",
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"content": "Oh, it’s just a hole. You could store things in there.",
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"content": "Yeah. But like, try to put a joint in there. (\npasses him something\n) Close it. You put like one, one blunt. One, that seems pretentious. You know, that’s the idea behind it. I bought it when I was in Mexico because I figured it would be a good size to hold joints. (\ntakes a joint and lights it\n)",
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"content": "So, is that a joint? Or is it a cigar?",
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"content": "But was reading also an escape or rescue to you as a boy? In school, I’ve learned that you’re kind of the youngest in the class and bullied sometimes.",
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"content": "That’s true.",
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"content": "So what was reading to you at that time?",
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"content": "Well, this is, of course, back in the days before the video games, and TV wasn’t very good either. And I was actually for quite a while the youngest and the smallest in class. And my parents moved a lot, so I went through six different schools, so it was difficult to make friends, and then one year and then you’d be in a new school the next. So books certainly were something that I found comforting, and I would read all the time, just all the time, you know, morning to night.\n(09:36 – 09:55)\nA documentary sequence about Elon Musk in Chinese, translation not available\nAnd generally sort of the fantasy sci-fi genre I found most interesting. And I mean, I also read a lot of the philosophers and religious texts and that kind of thing and a lot of nonfiction as well; read the encyclopedia. And in fact, I remember when I was just in elementary school, I was reading about ion engines. And I thought they were super cool. And now we’re launching satellites with ion engines.",
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"content": "Why would you program that into a car?",
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"content": "It seemed like fun.",
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"content": "That’s what I get about you. That’s what’s weird. Like when you showed up here, you were all smiles, and you pull out a fucking blowtorch or ‘not a blowtorch’, but I’m like, „Look at this dude“…",
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"content": "Not a flamethrower.",
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"content": "Yeah. Do you think we will colonize?",
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"content": "I think we will go to the asteroid belt. And we can go to the moons of Jupiter, Saturn, even get to Pluto.",
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"content": "That’d be the craziest place ever if we colonized Mars, and we terraformed it and turned it into a big Jamaica. Just oceans and-",
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"content": "I think we should. I think that would be great. That would be great. Amazing.",
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"content": "You do appreciate that when you wade into these very delicate waters, at these very delicate times, that it can create a real, as it created headlines for the past two weeks and economic impact. I’m just so curious in your brain when you see all this happening, are you sitting there going, oh my God, I stepped in it. I wish I didn’t do that. Are you saying screw them? I hate these people. Why are they after me?",
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"content": "All of that. Yeah, all of that. I mean, look, I’m sorry for that tweet or post. It was foolish of me. Of the 30,000, it might be literally the worst and dumbest post that I’ve ever done. And I try to do my best to clarify six ways to Sunday. But at least I think over time it’ll be obvious that in fact, far from being antisemitic, I’m in fact and all the evidence in my track record would support that.",
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"content": "Let me ask you this though. There are people who say crazy things on X as you know, maybe you think they’re crazy, maybe they’re not.",
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"content": "The aspiration for X is to be the global town square. Now, if you were to walk down to let’s say Times Square, do you occasionally hear people saying crazy things?",
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"content": "Yeah.",
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"content": "So yeah, this is just kind of like a practice run for something that might in the future have a serious, like a really high mortality rate, and we kind of got to go through this without it being something that kills vast numbers of young, healthy people.",
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"content": "Yeah. When you made a series of tweets recently, I don’t remember the exact wording, but essentially you were saying, “Free America now.” Like, let’s open it back-",
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"content": "That is the exact wording.",
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"content": "Do you give yourself favor favorable treatment on the algorithm?",
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"content": "No. In fact, the algorithm is open sourced so you can see exactly what’s going on.",
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"content": "I believe the For You one is open sourced, is that right?",
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"content": "Following is just who you follow. It’s not algorithm, it’s just-",
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"content": "You should figure that shit out. You need to fucking kick down the door at Rolex and go, „You bitches are lazy.“",
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"content": "It’s kind of amazing that you can keep time mechanically on a wristwatch with these tiny little gears.",
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"content": "It’s amazing. I mean, the whole luxury watch market is fascinating. I’m not that involved in terms like I don’t buy them. I’ve bought them as gifts. I don’t buy them for myself. But when I look at them online, there’s a million-dollar watches out there now that are like they have like little rotating moons and stars.Like, look at this thing, how much is that one, Jaime?\nI don’t know. I just picked one.\nThese are fucking preposterous.",
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"content": "I like gears.",
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"content": "It’s great. It’s really fun. so you basically take an auger, and you drill through the surface of the ice, and you create a small hole, and you can dunk your line in there. This is like that. You’re ice fishing on the top of your skull, and then you cork it.",
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"content": "Yeah, and you replace that, say, one inch diameter piece of skull with the Neuralink device, and that has a battery and a Bluetooth and an inductive charger. Then you also insert the electrodes. The electrodes are very carefully inserted with a robot that we developed. It’s very carefully putting in the electrodes and avoiding any veins or arteries, so it doesn’t create trauma.",
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"content": "Through this one inch diameter device, electrodes would be inserted, and they will find their way…",
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"content": "Like tiny wires, basically.",
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"content": "But that’s biological travel. That’s cells traveling physically to another location.",
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"content": "Yes.",
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"content": "Do you think that’s definitely where we’re going?",
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"content": "No.",
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"content": "Right, but not bad. Considering like a 911, which is like one of the most popular sports cars of all time. Heavy rear-end bias.",
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"content": "Well, I mean, yeah. The 911, I’m not going to joke, is like the master despite Newton not being on their side. If you’re fighting Newton, it’s very difficult. The moments of inertia on a 911 don’t make any sense.",
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"content": "They do once you understand them. Once you understand-",
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"content": "You don’t want to hang the engine off the ass. This is not a wise move.",
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"content": "Yeah.",
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"content": "This is like, I think the tools of physics are very powerful. Just assume you’re wrong and aspire your goal is to be less wrong. I don’t think you’re going to succeed every day in being less wrong, but if you’re going to succeed in being less wrong most of the time, you’re doing great.",
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"content": "That’s a great way of putting it. Aspire to be less wrong. But then when people look back in nostalgia about simpler times, there’s that too. It’s very romantic and exciting to look back on campfires.",
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"content": "But you still can have a campfire.",
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"content": "Yeah, I mean from the money that you sell all your stuff, you can buy new stuff. Do you feel like people define you by the fact that you’re wealthy and that they define you in a pejorative way?",
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"content": "For sure. I mean not everyone, but for sure, in recent years, ‘billionaire’ has become pejorative like that’s a bad thing. Which I think doesn’t make a lot of sense in most cases. If you basically organized a company… How does this wealth arise? If you organize people in a better way to produce products and services that are better than what existed before, and you have some ownership in that company, then that essentially gives you the right to allocate more capital. There’s a conflation of consumption and capital allocation.\nTake Warren Buffet, for example, and to be totally frank, I’m not his biggest fan, but you know, he does like have full allocation, and he reads a lot of annual reports of companies and all the accounting, and it’s pretty boring really. He’s trying to figure out does Coke or Pepsi deserve more capital?\nI mean it’s kind of a boring job if you ask me. It’s still a thing that’s important to figure out. Like, which is a company deserving of more or less capital. Should that company grow or expand? Is it making products and services that are better than others or worse? If a company is making compelling products and services, it should get more capital, and if it’s not, it should get less or go out of business.",
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"content": "Well, there’s a big difference, too, between someone who’s making an incredible amount of money designing and engineering fantastic products versus someone who’s making an incredible amount of money by investing in companies or moving money around in the stock market or doing things along those lines. It’s a different thing and to put them all in the same category seems it’s very simple. As you pointed out, it’s an attack vector.",
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"content": "Yeah, for sure. I do think, in the United States especially, there’s an over-allocation of talent in finance and law. Basically, too many smart people go into finance and law. This is both a compliment and a criticism. We should have, I think, fewer people doing law and fewer people doing finance and more people making stuff.",
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"content": "Okay, great. I’m just getting a ton of questions as well, Elon. This one is specifically about the auto industry, which, you know, you happen to be a member of as well.",
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"content": "I know a little bit about cars.",
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"content": "Yeah, I think you do. What can you share with this community that’s, you know, concerned about data protection, or how, you know, your alternative interests related to Tesla would kind of bleed over into this current role?",
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"content": "Well, I totally would encourage other carmakers to continue advertising on Twitter. And I would also encourage their Twitter handles to be more active, and for their CEOs and CMOs to be more active on the system. In general, I would say for brands, I think, brands should tweet more, executives should tweet more. I would encourage people just to be more adventurous.\nLike, that’s certainly what I’ve done on Twitter with Tesla, and myself and SpaceX, and it’s worked out quite well. But I definitely not going to do anything, which is somehow advantageous to Tesla, because that’s going to totally turn off any automotive advertiser. It has to be a level playing field or we won’t get automotive advertisers. I don’t know what else to say except that, as you know, we’re just going to try to be as fair as possible.",
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"content": "Wow. So significant?",
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"content": "Yeah, like a quarter. But there’s an even better step beyond that, which is to make rockets reusable. Right now, that is around what our comparison price is… excluding the refurbished ICBMs. So, if you say building a rocket from new, how does the SpaceX rocket compare to a rocket from Boeing or Lockheed? It’s about a quarter of the price. However, if we make it reusable, then it can be two orders of magnitude cheaper.",
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"content": "Two orders of magnitude cheaper. A 100th of the price?",
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"content": "That’s right. For you.",
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"content": "Well, it seems to be very deadly to very specific kinds of people and people with specific problems.",
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"content": "Yeah. I mean, you can look at the mortality statistics by age and whether they have comorbidities, like do they have basically existing conditions and by age. If you’re below 60 and have no serious health issues, the probability of death is extremely low. It’s not zero, but it’s extremely low.",
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"content": "They didn’t think that this was the case, though, when they first started to lock down the country. Do you think that it’s a situation where once they’ve proceeded in a certain way, it’s very difficult to correct course?",
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"content": "It’s almost like people really wanted a panic. It’s quite crazy.",
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"content": "Like the government say, „Don’t you buy Huawei phones.“ Are you up on that at all? No? Should we just abandon this idea?",
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"content": "If you have like top secret stuff, then you want to be pretty careful about what hardware you use. But, you know, like most people do not have top-secret stuff. Nobody really cares what porn you watch. It’s like nobody actually cares, you know. So-.",
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"content": "If they do, that’s kind of on them.",
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"content": "Yeah. National spy agencies do not give a rat’s ass which porn you watch. They do not care. So, like, what secrets does a national spy agency have to learn from the average citizen? Nothing.",
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"content": "Me too. Yeah, me too.",
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"content": "I love humanity. I think it’s great.",
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"content": "We’re glad as a robot that you love humans because we love you too, and we don’t want you to kill us and eat us. And-",
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"content": "I mean, you know, strangely, I think a lot of people don’t like humanity and see it as a blight, but I do not.",
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"content": "And you worked through the night, right? You just never slept.\nI mean, we lived in a little office. I think this address was 470 Sherman Way in Palo Alto.\nIt was about the size of this room here.\nYeah, it was probably like 15 feet wide by 30 feet long with a little closet in the back. And we couldn’t afford a place to sleep like a house or home or apartment. So we would sleep in it, and it had a couch that was a futon. We would pull out the futon and take turns sleeping on the futon or the floor. Though he coded a lot of nights, I usually got the futon at night. He had to code it at night because the server, when the internet was live, needed to be functional. And we just had data for the Bay Area at the time. So we were just kind of making sure that the people in the Bay Area could use it.\nAnd then I had a little mini-fridge with a cooking stove on it, and we cooked simple things, you know, like pasta sauce and pasta and things like that. That would be as cheap as dirt. People think it’s expensive to eat real food. It is actually really cheap to cook some vegetables, pasta, and beans – it’s super cheap. And then we would go eat at Jack in the Box, which I can still… I still kind of shiver a little. I haven’t eatenthere for probably 20 years or longer, maybe 22 years, and I can still probably recite the entire menu.",
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"content": "We cycled through the menu. Jack in the Box was like a few blocks away from…",
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"content": "And it was open 24 hours.",
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"content": "Open 24 hours. If you tried to get dinner in Palo Alto after 10 p.m., it’s very difficult.",
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"content": "You hope he does?",
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"content": "Yeah. Yeah. I actually agree with a lot of Jeff’s motivations. Let me put it this way, if there was a button I could press that would delete Blue Origin, I wouldn’t press it. So I think it’s good that he’s spending money on making rockets too. I’d suggest perhaps he spend more time on it, but it’s up to him. I should make a point here. So nothing any of my companies have done has been to stifle competition. In fact, we’ve done the opposite. So at Tesla, we have open sourced our patents. Anyone can use our patents for free. How many companies do you know who’ve done that? Can you name one? I can’t. At SpaceX, we don’t use patents. Once in a while we’ll file a patent just so some patent troll doesn’t cause trouble. But we’ve done nothing anti-competitive. We’ve done nothing to stop our competitors.",
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"content": "I’m not suggesting you are.",
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"content": "I just want to clarify for the audience, because some companies have done anti-competitive things. I think the strange thing, the unusual thing about SpaceX and Tesla is that we’ve done things that have helped our competition. So at Tesla, we have made our supercharger system open access. We’ve made our charger technology available for free to the other manufacturers. No walled garden. We could have put a wall up, but instead we invited them in.",
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"content": "Outside of Earth.",
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"content": "Yes. Earth is easy.",
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"content": "Earth is pretty good, and also, we should clarify, in the solar system.",
"role": "user"
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"content": "Yes. In the solar system.",
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"content": "Right, and it’s similar to seeing our world as a simulation; there may not be a test to tell the difference between what the real world …",
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"content": "Yes.",
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"content": "… and the simulation, and therefore, from a physics perspective, it might as well be the same thing.",
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"content": "Yes, and there may be ways to test whether it’s a simulation. There might be, I’m not saying there are. But you could certainly imagine that a simulation could correct, that once an entity in the simulation found a way to detect the simulation, it could either pause the simulation, start a new simulation, or do one of many other things that then corrects for that error.",
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"content": "One of them involving an alleged diamond mine.",
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"content": "Diamond mine?",
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"content": "A mine that your father part owned?",
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"content": "Yeah. My father never owned a… So you’re thinking of an emerald mine.",
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"content": "Do you have a trainer or anything?",
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"content": "I do, although I haven’t seen him for a while. But yeah, especially if I’m out, say we’re working on Starship or something South Texas, and I’m just living in my – I got a little house there in Boca Chica village – and I don’t have much to do, so. Or I’m working, and I’ll just lift some weights or something. Some people love running; I don’t love running.",
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"content": "What do you like to do exercise-wise?",
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"content": "To be totally frank, I wouldn’t exercise at all if I could. I prefer not to exercise, but if I’m going to exercise, I’ll lift some weights and then kind of run on a treadmill and maybe watch a show if there’s a compelling show that pulls you in.",
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"content": "Fun product. Who’s next?\nHello? Hey guys, Eli here from Tesla Owners Club, My Tesla Adventure. Just a quick question. I’m a huge fan of car camping in my Tesla with my dream case, my all-time favorite activity, is it going to be possible to get climate control to the back of the Cybertruck? Because that would be the ultimate camping machine if we can get all-night climate control.",
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"content": "We’ll try to do that. Yeah, I agree. That would be really cool.",
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"content": "All right. Who’s next?\nA speaker from the audience:\nHello, a longtime fan, Elon, great guy. Just a question, how does the ICE industry look like in the future?",
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"content": "Well, I don’t think there will be at ICE industry longterm. Well, I guess there might be like a few things that it’s a like curious thing. There’s still like some steam engines made somewhere, but they’re just basically sort of quirky collector’s items. I mean, that will be the future of the internal combustion engine car.",
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"content": "Booze, drinking booze.",
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"content": "Yeah, exactly. Small amounts of alcohol, evidence suggests it doesn’t have a negative effect on…",
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"content": "I put it in the same category as delicious food. It kind of makes things a little more fun. I like it.",
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"content": "Yeah. I mean some of the people who’ve lived the longest, there was a woman in France who, I think, maybe has the record or close to it, and she had a glass of wine every day. Small amounts is fine. But yeah, I learned this quite late in life. It’s like, just avoid having alcohol and avoid eating at least two or three hours before going to sleep, and your quality of sleep will improve, and your general health will improve a lot.",
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"content": "Recently, there were a few hackers who tricked Autopilot to act in unexpected ways for the adversarial examples. So we all know that neural network systems are very sensitive to minor disturbances, these adversarial examples, on input. Do you think it’s possible to defend against something like this for the industry?",
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"content": "Sure (both laugh), yeah.",
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"content": "Can you elaborate on the confidence behind that answer?",
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"content": "A neural net is just basically a bunch of matrix math. But you have to be a very sophisticated, somebody who really understands neural nets and basically reverse-engineers how the matrix is being built, and then create a little thing that just exactly causes the matrix math to be slightly off. But it’s very easy to block that by having what would basically negative recognition; it’s like if the system sees something that looks like a matrix hack, exclude it. It’s such an easy thing to do.",
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"content": "(refers to the sequence shown before)\nHow do you see that contradiction? How could you reconcile it?",
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"content": "It’s not exactly a contradiction because I always say it’s important for civilization to be a multi-planet species. So it’s not like an escape from Earth, and then we will leave Earth and try to go to Mars or something like that.",
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"content": "Why don’t we concentrate on saving the planet instead of, you know, having the back door open?",
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"content": "Well, I do think that 99% of our efforts should be focused on Earth. And really, 99.9% of our effort is focused on Earth. But I do think it’s worth saying: ‘Okay, let’s take 1% and try to establish a self-sustaining city on Mars and make life multi-planetary.’ And I think there’s a couple of good reasons for that. First of all, there’s always the possibility that there could be some terrible thing that happens on Earth that we maybe don’t anticipate. If you look at the fossil record and the fact that there’ve been five major extinction events in the last 500 million years, and what happened to the dinosaurs. They used to be here; they’re not around anymore. So that’s kind of the defensive argument. And then there’s what I call maybe the inspiration argument, the excitement. Building a city on Mars would just be this incredible adventure, that there be things in life that are exciting and inspiring that when you wake up in the morning, you’re like, yes, I’m glad to be alive. And I think having this great adventure would be like that.",
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"content": "You know, he takes his phone, and he flips it in between his fingers like a soldier would do it with his rifle. He just rolls that shit in between his fingers. It’s marvelous. He says that’s the reason why they do it. He said, „Would you look at someone who has a rifle? Why would they do that? Why would they flip it around like that?“ It’s like, when it goes to drop, they have it in their hand. They catch it quickly.So, that’s what he does with his phone. He’s just flipping his phone around all the time.\n(\nJoe realizes that Elon examines something\n) I got that in Mexico. I was hoping it holds joints.",
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"content": "Does it do anything? It tips to open.",
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"content": "No.",
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"content": "Oh, it’s just a hole. You could store things in there.",
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"content": "But then maybe you have the gold in X in a different way, in a way, again, that I don’t know if the public appreciates what that means.",
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"content": "Yes, X might be the single best source of data. People click on more links to X than anything else on earth. Sometimes people think Facebook or Instagram is a bigger thing, but actually, there are more links to X than anything. This is public information. You can Google it.",
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"content": "Okay, let me ask you a-",
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"content": "So it is where you would find what is happening right now on earth at any given point in time. The whole OpenAI drama played out, in fact, on the X platform. Google certainly has a massive amount of data, so does Microsoft, but it is one of the best sources of data.",
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"content": "When? You said ‘pretty soon’ last time we talked.",
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"content": "Yeah, I mean, I think we should really try hard to make it happen in this century; before the end of the century.",
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"content": "You’ll be pretty old.",
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"content": "Um, probably dead.",
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"content": "I’m going to need an hour just to think about that, and maybe some drugs, and maybe Grok to help. I mean, is there some aspect of that, just existing in a world where everybody wants something from you, how hard is it to exist in that world?",
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"content": "I’ll survive.",
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"content": "There’s a song like that too.",
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"content": "I will survive.",
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"content": "And now for something completely different. Do you mind doing a bit of a meme review in the spirit of the great, the powerful PewDiePie? Let’s say, one to eleven, just go over a few documents printed out?",
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"content": "We can try.",
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"content": "I prefer it over places that are more restrictive but more liberal because you could always be liberal. Like just because things are free and just because you have a certain amount of, you know, right-wing type characters, it doesn’t mean you have to be that way, you know.And, honestly, there’s a lot of those people that are pretty fucking open-minded and let you do whatever you want to do. As long as you don’t bother them.",
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"content": "Yeah, exactly.",
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"content": "That’s my hope right now with the way we’re able to communicate with each other today, and how radically different it is than generations past is that we all just, the dust settles. We all realize, like what you’re saying, that most people are good.\nMost people are good.\nThe vast majority.",
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"content": "Yes. I think if you give people the benefit of doubt, for sure.",
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"content": "Yeah, and that’s what you said last year. I mean, you said like, „It took us a long time to frame the question even because we didn’t necessarily know what it was.“",
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"content": "It took ages to frame the question, I mean, it’s just like ‚\nThe Hitchhiker’s Guide to the Galaxy\n‚, Douglas Adams, best philosopher ever – maybe, I think, best book in philosophy ever, ‚Hitchhiker’s Guide to the Galaxy‘ – but his book is so deep, people don’t even understand.\nIn ‚The Hitchhiker’s Guide to the Galaxy‘, the Earth is a giant computer, and the Earth, it comes up with the answer ’42‘ to the question, „What’s life, the answer to life, the universe and everything?“ The answer’s 42, and they’re like, „What the hell – that doesn’t make any sense.“ „Oh, you… the hard part is the question. The answer is the easy part. You need a much more powerful computer to tell you what the question is.“ And this is true. At the point in which you can properly frame the question, the answer is comparatively easy.",
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"content": "Right. I have one more question for you. I’m working on a video about aerospikes. It’s going to be about an hour long video on aerospikes and, you know, they’re like the rotary engine of rockets. Like the rotary was… it’s been advantageous in some ways, you know, like your…",
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"content": "Yeah, aerospikes, man, I tell you.",
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"content": "You’re saying there’s a chance.",
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"content": "I’m saying there’s a chance Exactly. Just not sure how long it will take. But we have a very talented team. They’re working night and day to make it happen. Like I said, the critical thing to achieve for the revolution in spaceflight and for humanity to be a spacefaring civilization is to have a fully and rapidly reusable rocket, orbital rocket. There’s not even been any orbital rocket that’s been fully reusable ever. And this has always been the holy grail of rocketry. And many smart people, very smart people, have tried to do this before and they’ve not succeeded because it’s such a hard problem.",
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"content": "What’s your source of belief in situations like this? When the engineering problem is so difficult? There’s a lot of experts, many of whom you admire, who have failed in the past.",
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"content": "Yes.",
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"content": "Was that story fully told? I mean, SEC, in its best form, could be a force for good.",
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"content": "It should be. But not once did the SEC go after any of the hedge funds who were nonstop shorting and distorting Tesla. Not once. The hedge funds would lie flat out on TV for their own gain at the expense of retail investors. Not once. Literally a thousand times, not once did the SEC pursue them.",
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"content": "How do you explain this failure on-",
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"content": "The incentive structure is messed up because the lawyers at the SEC are not paid well, it’s a fairly low paying job, but what they’re looking for is a trophy from the SEC. They’re looking for something they put on, basically, their LinkedIn. From that, they can get a job at a high paying law firm. That’s exactly what the lawyer here did.\nAnd the reason they don’t attack the hedge funds is because those hedge funds employ those law firms. And they know if they attack the hedge funds, they’re affecting their future career prospects. So, they sell small investors down the river for their own career. That’s what actually happens. Regulatory capture.",
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"content": "Manufacturing is hard and hard problems are fun to solve. Okay. Now let’s talk about formation. In a typical cell factory, formation represents 25% of the investment. And what is formation? Is it’s charging and discharging cells and verifying the quality of the cell. It turns out we’ve charged and discharged billions and billions of cells in our vehicles, so we know a thing or two about that.\nThe typical formation setup is you charge and discharge each cell individually. In our car, we charge thousands of cells at once. And we took our principal and our power electronics, leveraging Powerwall vehicle battery management systems and others to dramatically improve the formation equipment cost-effectiveness and density. 86% reduction in formation investment, 75% reduction in footprint.\n(to Elon) You want to take this one?",
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"content": "Sure. So essentially, what this translates to based on what we know today is about a 75% reduction in the investment per kilowatt-hour. Or gigawatt-hour. It’s just basically four times better than the current state of the art to the best of our knowledge. And I think there’s probably room to improve even beyond that.",
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"content": "Definitely.",
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"content": "Definitely. Yeah. We’re able to, from a volume standpoint, actually get what, in a smaller form factor than Giga Nevada, we’re able to get many times the cell output. You can see basically we can get a terawatt-hour in less space than it took to make a gigawatt-hour, you know, 150 GWh. This is pretty profound. I would actually not have thought this was possible several years ago, that we could actually get to a TWh scale in less space than what we currently envisioned for doing 150 GWh.",
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"content": "But why do you think they’re lowering the standards for minority doctors or women doctors or…",
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"content": "That’s what that article suggested? Yes, at Duke University.",
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"content": "Okay. The evidence that I have shows that that’s not true. Okay, so listen. After the door blew off this midflight and this Alaskan airline flight, do you remember that you responded a post claiming that the average HBCU grad was less intelligent than the average airline pilot and stated that it will take an airplane crashing and killing hundreds of people for them to change this crazy policy of DIE? I don’t know if you did… You misspelled it on purpose, which should be DEI. Do you believe that women and minority pilots are inherently less intelligent and less skilled than white male pilots?",
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"content": "No. I’m just saying that we should not lower the standards for them.",
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"content": "Not yet?",
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"content": "Not yet. No, this place is nice and I kind of like this office actually.",
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"content": "Yeah. Okay. So you’re not, because I know you’ve talked about there’s been high levels of crime here. You actually said at one point-",
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"content": "Yeah, we should do something about the crime.",
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"content": "And again, this is not in any way disrespecting the people who have died from this disease. That’s certainly a real thing to think of.",
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"content": "Yeah. I mean, it just should be if you’re at risk, you should not be compelled to leave your house or leave a place of safety, but if you’re not at risk, or if you are at risk and you wish to take a risk with your life, you should have the right to do that.",
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"content": "And it seems like at this point in time, particularly, our resources would be best served protecting the people that are at risk versus penalizing the people that are not at high risk for living their life the way they did, particularly having a career, and making a living, and feeding your family, paying your bills, keeping your store open, keeping your restaurant open.",
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"content": "Yes. I mean, there’s a strong downside to this. So yeah, I just believe this is a free country. You should be allowed to do what you want as long as it does not endanger others.",
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"content": "Well, I’ve talked to a few folks here that are quite brilliant engineers. So, I’m excited.",
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"content": "Yeah. I think it’s fundamentally good, giving somebody back full motor control after they’ve had a spinal cord injury. Restoring brain functionality after a stroke. Solving debilitating genetically oriented brain diseases. These are all incredibly great, I think. And in order to do these, you have to be able to interface with the neurons at a detail level, and you need to be able to fire the right neurons, read the right neurons and then effectively you can create a circuit, replace what’s broken with silicon and essentially, fill in the missing functionality.\nAnd then over time, we develop a tertiary layer, so like the limbic system as a primary layer, then the cortex is like a second layer. And as said, obviously the cortex is vastly more intelligent than the limbic system. But people generally like the fact that they have a limbic system and a cortex. I haven’t met anyone who wants to delete either one of them. They’re like, okay, I’ll keep them both, that’s cool.",
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"content": "The limbic system is kind of fun.",
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"content": "Yeah, that’s where the fun is, absolutely. And then people generally don’t want to lose their cortex either. Right, so they like having the cortex and the limbic system. And then there’s a tertiary layer, which will be digital superintelligence. And I think there’s room for optimism, given that the cortex is very intelligent and the limbic system is not, yet they work together well. Perhaps there can be a tertiary layer where digital superintelligence lies. And that will be vastly more intelligent than the cortex but still coexist peacefully and in a benign manner with the cortex and limbic system.",
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"content": "That’s humanity transforming into something like a bio-organism, or at least behaving to the same rules…",
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"content": "The speed of information flow and, just in fact, even not just speed but qualitatively, the access to information was so limited before. I mean, now, technically, you could teach yourself anything. Previously, say universities had somewhat of a monopoly on higher education. But now\nMIT\nhas all of the lectures online, you can buy all of the textbooks, you can do the tests online, you can learn anything you want, almost. I’m not sure what you couldn’t learn online. You can learn right now online for free, more than someone who did a doctorate could do before.",
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"content": "Very impressive.",
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"content": "I mean, what is the purpose of universities at this point? I think it’s mostly just to hang out with peers, have some fun, and talk to friends. Not for information.",
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"content": "As a Druid.",
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"content": "As a Druid. This is really vexing, let me tell you.",
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"content": "I mean, the challenge is part of the fun. I have seen directly, you’re actually a world-class, incredible video game player. And I think Diablo, so you’re just picking up a new game and you’re figuring out its fundamentals. You’re also with the Paragon Board and the build are not somebody like me who perfectly follows whatever they suggest on the internet. You’re also an innovator there, which is hilarious to watch. It’s like a mad scientist just trying to figure out the Paragon Board and the build. Is there some interesting insights there about if somebody’s starting as a druid, do you have advice?",
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"content": "I would not recommend playing a druid in the eternal realm. Right now I think the most powerful character in the seasonal realm is the Sorcerer with the lightning balls. The smokes have huge balls in the seasonal.",
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"content": "A little. Well, some say a little, some say a bit more. I think your own lawyer said you couldn’t get a fair trial in San Francisco because there are lots of people that don’t necessarily like you here.",
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"content": "Yeah, but I have to say I was wrong. He was wrong, I guess, because I was acquitted by the San Francisco jury unanimously.",
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"content": "But I guess, look, do you have any regrets buying Twitter?",
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"content": "I think it was something that needed to be done.",
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"content": "You can buy fireworks where, you know, your kids go to school.",
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"content": "You know, it’s dangerous.",
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"content": "Yes\n,\nbut it’s free.",
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"content": "It’s free.",
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"content": "And by the way, one that was practiced all over the world forever since the beginning of time by every race. Including people of color. I’m sorry to tell you that. It’s huge in the Bible. The Bible loves it. Really.",
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"content": "Yes, they’re quite strict about, like, you know, don’t take someone else’s slave and that kind of right.",
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"content": "But no one ever says: “Just don’t do it.”",
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"content": "They don’t. At no point does it say slavery is bad. They did not condemn it at all.",
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"content": "And just to point out, when we were walking through this presentation, we intentionally separated all the different aspects. The benefits of structural batteries apply to an iron-based cathode in the same way they apply to a nickel-based cathode. So you get longer range, iron-base vehicles. And also, the silicon benefit can apply to the iron-based vehicles as well. So we can do a lot to extend the range of an iron-based vehicle, which is why it’s a key part of the roadmap going forward. And then I invited Turner up here\n(on stage)\nto talk about what the mining industry can do.\nYeah. Diversification on the cathode side is obviously massive, and EVs are all about efficiency. And so for the EV industry, for the vehicle industry, we need to see powertrain efficiency really increase at all other companies, matching Tesla powertrain efficiency, so that everyone can have that diversified cathode approach, where\nLFP\nis used in medium range, and even really make a 300-mile vehicle with LFP.\nAnd really, the goal that we were trying to present here was a model for vertical integration, strategic vertical integration, that a lot of different people can do. What we need to see is vertical integration that shortens the process path, from mine to cathode. And what we’re doing here is novel, and we’re trying to push the industry in that direction. So we’re presenting a model here that anyone can follow.",
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"content": "(to the team on stage)\nYeah. In fact, if there’s anything that you guys want to comment on, feel free to step forward and say something.\nSpeaker A on stage:\nI think the key is to be smart about your chemistry choices, your materials choices.\nTalk louder.\nSpeaker A on stage:\nYeah. If you’re smart about your materials choices, the spice will continue to flow. You don’t need to use the same kind everywhere. It’s about strategically planning it out, and for miners, I think we are incentivizing them quite a bit to ramp up their production.",
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"content": "Yeah. And actually, we had good calls; they’re all motivated. I think they’ve been sort of sitting back being like, “Are you going to grow like crazy?” And we’re like, “Yeah, we’re going to grow like crazy.” And then I think this indicates we’re going to grow like crazy, and that’s what the miners want to hear, and then they’ll go make the investments.\nHello, Elon. This is Ben Limpic, I’m a musician. I was wondering, does Tesla have any future plans to make partnerships with music companies, like it has done with Tencent games or things like that, for you guys to actually kind of expand your services for artists and other types of creative people, to get involved in producing content that can be part of the Tesla ecosystem or so other people that do creative things can get involved with you guys?",
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"content": "We haven’t really thought about it that much, but I suppose it’s probably something we should think about. We will be providing TIDAL on the Teslas. So we’re providing more music sources that people can choose from and just generally trying to improve the entertainment experience in the cars. And I think actually, as we go to a more autonomous future, the importance of entertainment and productivity will become greater and greater.\nI mean, to the degree that if you’re just basically sitting in your car, the car is fully autonomous and driving somewhere, the car is essentially your chauffeur, and then the things that become important are, okay, well, let’s have good entertainment, and if you want to do some productivity stuff, then that actually starts to become much more important because you’re no longer spending your attention driving the car. So it will be extremely important in the future.",
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"content": "Oh, okay. Okay. Like cult thinking or some sort of fundamentalism.",
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"content": "Yeah. Just a wrongheaded idea that goes viral in an ideal sense.",
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"content": "Well, that is a problem too, right, if someone can manipulate that technology to make something appear logical or rational?",
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"content": "Yeah. Yeah.",
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"content": "Do you have time to exercise?",
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"content": "A little bit.",
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"content": "Do you have a trainer or anything?",
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"content": "I do, although I haven’t seen him for a while. But yeah, especially if I’m out, say we’re working on Starship or something South Texas, and I’m just living in my – I got a little house there in Boca Chica village – and I don’t have much to do, so. Or I’m working, and I’ll just lift some weights or something. Some people love running; I don’t love running.",
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"content": "While your car is just traveling.",
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"content": "It’s kind of eerie. It’s kind of eerie.",
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"content": "What did you think when you saw that video of that dude fallen asleep behind the wheel? I’m sure you’ve seen it, the one in San Francisco. It’s like right outside of San Jose, the dude’s out cold, like this. And the car’s an inch bumper-to-bumper in traffic moving along. You’ve seen it, right?",
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"content": "Yeah. We changed the software. That’s, I think, an old video. We changed software. If you don’t touch the wheel, it will gradually slow down, and put the emergency lights on, and wake you up.",
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"content": "It’s weird though, right, that in this age where, you know, there’s ludicrous mode in your car, goes 1.9 seconds, 0 to 60.",
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"content": "That’s 2.2.",
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"content": "2.2. Which one’s 1.9? The Roadster?",
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"content": "The next-generation Roadster. Standard edition.",
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"content": "Well, I’ve driven one. I love them.",
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"content": "Yeah, but most people don’t know what it can do.",
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"content": "In terms of, like, ludicrous mode? In terms of, like, driving super fast and irresponsibly on public roads, is that what you’re saying?",
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"content": "Well, any car can do that.",
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"content": "Who have you talked to about this?",
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"content": "I’ve talked to friends.",
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"content": "Friends?",
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"content": "Friends and-",
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"content": "Forgiveness is difficult for people. It seems like you don’t harbor their resentment.",
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"content": "I mean, I try to think about, what is going to affect the future in a good way? And holding onto grudges does not affect the future in a good way.",
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"content": "You’re a father, a proud father. What have you learned about life from your kids? Those little biological organisms.",
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"content": "I mean, developing AI and watching, say, little X grow is fascinating because there are far more parallels than I would’ve expected. I mean, I can see his biological neural net making more and more sense of the world. And I can see the digital neural net making more and more sense of the world at the same time.",
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"content": "Oh, Okay. Yeah. We’ve got some ambitious stuff at Khan Academy for the next year, too. So we can compare. We’re redesigning the site, you know.",
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"content": "Right. We’ve been working on it for a long time. I should say, SpaceX has been around for 11 years, and thus far, we have not recovered any rockets. We recovered the spacecraft from orbit. So that was great. But none of our attempts to recover the rocket stages have been successful.\nThe rocket stages have always blown up essentially on reentry. Now, we think we’ve figured out why that was the case. It’s a tricky thing because Earth’s gravity is really quite strong. With an advanced rocket, you can do maybe 2% to 3% of your lift-off mass to orbit, typically. And then reusability subtracts 2% to 3%. So then you’ve got like nothing to orbit or negative. That’s obviously not helpful.\nSo, the trick is to try to shift that from say 2%, 3% in an expendable configuration to make the rocket mass efficiency, engine efficiency, and so forth, so much better that it moves to maybe around 3.5% to 4% in expendable configuration. And then try to get clever about the reusability elements and try to drop that to around the 1.5% to 2% level. So you have a net payload to orbit of about 2%.",
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"content": "But you’re doing it at one, two orders of magnitude cheaper.",
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"content": "Yeah. Absolutely, because our Falcon 9 rocket cost about $60 million. But the propellant cost, which is mostly oxygen – it’s two-thirds oxygen, one-third fuel – is only about $200,000.",
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"content": "Okay, that would be good for me. When you think about…",
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"content": "I do think that’s like an important thing for… If you think of the various great filters – few people are familiar with the sort of great filter I thought – one of the filters is ‘Do we become a multi-planet species or not?’ So that is at least one of the great filters, and it would be great to pass that and be a multi-planet species where the critical threshold is on for a Mars city. If the resupply ships from Earth stop coming for any reason, whether that is civilization on Earth, it could be a mundane reason or could be World War III – but does Mars prosper or die out?\nAnd if Mars is missing anything at all, like the civilizational equivalent of vitamin C, then it will eventually die out. So you need to get to the point where a Mars city is self-sustaining, even if the ships from Earth stop coming. Then you have passed the great filter or at least passed particularly that great filter. I think we should endeavor to pass that great filter as soon as possible.",
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"content": "When? You said ‘pretty soon’ last time we talked.",
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"content": "Yeah, I mean, I think we should really try hard to make it happen in this century; before the end of the century.",
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"content": "Well-",
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"content": "That’s false.",
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"content": "No, what I claimed-",
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"content": "You just lied.",
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"content": "Titter.",
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"content": "Look, I held a pole and there was a strong yes on Titter, removing the W.",
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"content": "Right, you’ve got to bit of people, popular Vox Day.",
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"content": "Exactly.",
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"content": "Maybe that’s why everybody is like into like Mason jars and shit. Suede shoes. People are going to, like, craft restaurants, and they want raw wood. Everyone wants to see metal. It seems, people are like longing towards some weird log cabin type nostalgia.",
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"content": "Sure, reality.",
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"content": "Yeah, like holding on. Like clinging.",
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"content": "Sure.",
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"content": "Yeah. And I want to stress, this is not just a concept or a rendering. We’re starting to ramp up manufacturing of these cells at our pilot 10 GWh production facility, just around the corner.",
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"content": "Yeah. So. Yeah. It’s a video of some of what’s going on in the plant. Now. I mean, to be clear, it will take about a year to reach the 10 GWh capacity. This is important to appreciate. When you build a factory, there’s a certain capacity that you design to, and then it takes some period of time to actually achieve that capacity. I would say it’s probably about a year before we get to the 10 GWh annualized rate with the pilot plant. And this is just a pilot plant. The actual production plants will be more on the order of maybe 200 GWh, maybe more over time.",
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"content": "But let’s stack up everything we just saw at the cell level. So just the cell form factor change enables a 14% $/kWh reduction, just that cell form factor change. And now that you’ve been teased on this factory, we’re going to go on and walk step-by-step through that factory and discuss a series of innovations there.\nWhen thinking about the ideal cell factory, we have inspirations behind us in the paper and bottling industry, wherefrom humble beginnings, over a century of innovation has enabled mass scale, continuous motion, unbelievably low manufacturing costs. And when we think about the lithium-ion industry, which is really only in its third decade of high-volume production, it has so far to go to achieve similar scale and simplicity. And that was the inspiration that we set out to the team as we thought about how to marry cell design and manufacturing in the best possible factory.\nAnd let’s talk a little bit about what’s in a cell factory. First, there’s an electrode process where the active materials are coated into films onto foils. Then those coated foils are wound in the winding process we just talked about where if you do have tabs, you have to start and stop a lot. Then the jelly roll is assembled into the can, sealed, filled with electrolyte, and then sent to formation where the cell is charged for the first time and where the sort of the electrochemistry is set and the quality of the cell is verified.\nAnd we set out at every step of this process to try to take that inspiration we just showed and think about how we make those processes fundamentally better and more scalable. And one of the most important processes is where it all begins, the wet process of the electrode coding. And just to give you all a sense of scale, I’m going to walk through what’s in that wet process.\nYou’ve got mixing where the powders are mixed with either a water or a solvent, solvents for the cathode. That mix then goes into a large coat and dry oven where the slurry is coated onto the foil, huge ovens, tens of meters long, dried, and that solvent then has to be recovered. You can see the solvent recovery system. And then, finally, the coated foil is compressed to the final density. And when you’re looking at this, you’re like, wow, that’s a lot of equipment for one step, especially when you consider that little spec next to the coating oven is a person. This is serious iron involved in making batteries.\nWouldn’t it be great if we could skip that solvent step, which is one of those dig a ditch, and then fill it kind of things where you put the solvent in and then take it out and recycle it, and just go straight to a dry mix to coat? And that’s what the dry process really is about. And in the most basic form, you can see it here on a benchtop, literally powder into film, as simple as that.",
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"content": "I mean, it’s hard actually, just to be clear. If this was easy, everyone would do it. It’s not like dry coating electrode is actually easy. It’s actually very hard to do what appears to be a simple thing. And it’s worth noting, we did acquire Maxwell a little over a year ago, I guess, and certainly a good company and everything. But the dry coating they had was like, it’s like a sort of, I would call proof of concept.\nSince the acquisition, we’ve actually ramped the machine that does dry coating four times, so a revision full post acquisition of the machine. And there’s still a lot of work to do. So I would not say this is completely in the bag. It’s still a lot of work to do. And as you grow, as you scale, go from benchtop to lab to pilot to volume production, there are actually major issues that you encounter at every level. It’s not like you make something work on your bench and bingo, now you can make a bazillion of it.",
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"content": "There’s a lot of fascinating actual engineering of low-level problems here at Neuralink that are quite exciting.",
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"content": "The problems that we face at Neuralink are material science, electrical engineering, software, mechanical engineering, microfabrication. It’s a bunch of engineering disciplines, essentially. That’s what it comes down to; you have to have a tiny electrode, so small it doesn’t hurt neurons. But it’s got to last for as long as a person, so it’s got to last for decades. And then you’ve got to take that signal, and you’ve got to process that signal locally at low power.\nSo we need a lot of chip design engineers, because we’ve got to do signal processing and do so in a very power-efficient way so that we don’t heat your brain up because the brain’s very heat sensitive. And then, we’ve got to take those signals and we’ve got to do something with them. And then we’ve got to stimulate back, so you could do bi-directional communication.\nSo if somebody’s good at material science, software, mechanical engineering, electrical engineering, chip design, microfabrication, those are the things we need to work on. We need to be good at material science so that we can have tiny electrodes that last a long time. And it’s the tough thing, the material science, it’s a tough one because you’re trying to read and simulate electrically in an electrically active area, your brain is very electrically active and electrochemically active, so how do you have, say a coating on the electrode that doesn’t dissolve over time and is safe in the brain? This is a very hard problem.\nAnd then how do you collect those signals in a way that is most efficient? Because you really just have very tiny amounts of power to process those signals. And then we need to automate the whole thing, so it’s like LASIK. If this is done by neurosurgeons, there’s no way it can scale to large numbers of people. And it needs to scale to large numbers of people because I think ultimately we want the future to be determined by a large number of humans.",
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"content": "Do you think that this has a chance to revolutionize surgery, period? So neurosurgery and surgery.",
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"content": "Yeah, for sure. It’s got to be like LASIK. If LASIK had to be hand done, done by hand, by a person, that wouldn’t be great. It’s done by a robot. And the ophthalmologist kind of just needs to make sure you’re you. Your head’s in the right position and then they just press a button and go.",
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"content": "Versus some sort of Ray Kurzweil scenario where they download themselves into a computer?",
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"content": "You will be essentially snapshotted into a computer at any time. If your biological self dies, you could probably just upload into a new unit literally.",
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"content": "Pass that whiskey. We’re getting crazy over here. This is getting ridiculous.",
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"content": "Down the rabbit hole.",
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"content": "And reading is a super-fast shortcut to figure out where are you both good at it, you like doing it, and it will actually have positive impact.",
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"content": "You got to learn about things somehow. So reading a broad range… just really, read it. More important, as a kid, I read through the encyclopedia. So that’s pretty helpful. And there was all sorts of things I didn’t even know existed – well, a lot, obviously.",
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"content": "That’s as broad as it gets.",
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"content": "Encyclopedias were suggestible, I think, you know, whatever, 40 years ago. So read through the condensed version of the Encyclopedia Britannica. I recommend that. You always can skip subjects, so you read a few paragraphs, and you know you’re not interested, just jump to the next one. So read the encyclopedia or skim through it.\nI put a lot of stock and certainly have a lot of respect for someone who puts in an honest day’s work to do useful things. And just generally, to have not a zero-sum mindset, or have more of a grow the pie mindset. If you sort of say, like, when I see people, perhaps including some very smart people, kind of taking an attitude of doing things that seem morally questionable, it’s often because they have, at a base sort of axiomatic level, a zero-sum mindset without realizing it. They don’t realize they have a zero-sum mindset, or at least they don’t realize it consciously.\nAnd so, if you have a zero-sum mindset, then the only way to get ahead is by taking things from others. If the pie is fixed, then the only way to have more pie is to take someone else’s pie. But this is false. Obviously, the pie has grown dramatically over time – the economic pie. In reality, you can have – overuse this analogy – there’s a lot of pie. Pie is not fixed. So you really want to make sure you’re not operating without realizing it from a zero-sum mindset, where the only way to get ahead is to take things from others, then that’s going to result in you to try to take things from others, which is not good. It’s much better to work on adding to the economic pie, you know, creating more than you consume, doing more than you… Yeah. That’s a big deal. I think there’s a fair number of people in finance that do have a bit of a zero-sum mindset.",
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"content": "I think the issue some people have is that a lot of people were brought back. I mean some people were brought back who were previously banned for spreading things like Q Anon conspiracies. You have people like Andrew Tate who were brought back who were previously banned for things like hate speech. Do you think you prioritize freedom of speech over\n… misinformation and hate speech.",
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"content": "Well, who’s to say that something is misinformation? Who is the arbiter of that? Is it the BBC?",
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"content": "Yeah. Are you literally asking me?",
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"content": "Yes. Who is the arbiter?",
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"content": "Yes.",
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"content": "Everything you see, feel, hear, everything, all your senses are electrical signals, everything. Everything is an electrical signal to a brain in a vat, with the vat is your skull.",
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"content": "All your hormones, all your neuro-transmitters, all these things are drugs. Adrenaline’s a drug. Dopamine is a drug. You’re a drug factory. You’re constantly changing your state with love and oxytocin and beauty.",
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"content": "Sure.",
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"content": "…as the most important human in the room.",
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"content": "You know, it’s hard to come up with good questions. Absolutely. But yeah, the foundation of my philosophy is that I am curious about the nature of the universe. And, obviously, I will die. I don’t know when I’ll die, but I won’t live forever. But I would like to know that we are on a path to understanding the nature of the universe and the meaning of life and what questions to ask about the answer that is the universe. And so, if we expand the scope and scale of humanity and consciousness in general, which include silicon consciousness, that seems like a fundamentally good thing.",
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"content": "Elon, like I said, I’m deeply grateful that you spend your extremely valuable time with me today and also that you are giving millions of people hope in this difficult time, this divisive time, in this cynical time. So I hope you do continue doing what you’re doing. Thank you so much for talking today.",
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"content": "Oh, you’re welcome. Thanks for your excellent questions.",
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