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"content": "Constantly fucking, yeah. That’s all they do. They just won’t stop. And they don’t care, gay, straight – whatever, let’s just fuck. What’s with these labels?",
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"content": "I haven’t seen bonobos at a zoo. It’s probably, like…",
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"content": "I don’t think I have either.",
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"content": "And not in the PG section.",
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"content": "You want to beat Gary.",
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"content": "We want to beat Gary. He’s not a patient little fellow, and that will be victory. Victory is beating the snail.",
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"content": "But a lot of people imagining, dreaming about future cities, they imagine that actually the solution is flying cars, drones, etc. You go aboveground. Why isn’t that a better solution? You save all that tunneling cost.",
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"content": "Right. I’m in favor of flying things, obviously; I do rockets, so I like things that fly. This is not some inherent bias against flying things, but there is a challenge with flying cars in that they’ll be quite noisy, the wind force generated will be very high. Let’s just say that if something’s flying over your head, a whole bunch of flying cars going all over the place, that is not an anxiety-reducing situation. You don’t think to yourself, “Well, I feel better about today.” You’re thinking, “Did they service their hubcap, or is it going to come off and guillotine me?” Things like that.",
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"content": "“Someone drew a bunch of dicks all over the walls. Sistine Chapel. Boys bathroom.",
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"content": "Sure, I’ll give it nine. It’s really true.",
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"content": "All right, this is our highest ranking meme for today.",
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"content": "I mean, it’s true. How do they get away with it?",
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"content": "You want a werewolf too? I’ll hook you up.",
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"content": "All right. I’ll take one.",
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"content": "Okay. One werewolf and one clock coming up.\nDo you think about your role in the culture? Because me, as a person, who never met you until today, I’ve always looked at you and like, „Wow.“ Like, „How does this guy just keep inventing shit?“ Like, how do you keep coming up with all these new devices? And do you ever consider how unusual — Like I had a dream once that there were a million Teslas. Instead of like one Tesla, there were a million Teslas. Not just say the car but Nikola.",
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"content": "Oh, yeah, sure.",
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"content": "How much did your kids push you on the yoke? Was it your kids? Because my kids just love the yoke. So, that’s works for them. Anyway, really, really quick: Look, we’re living in this in-between time between we drive our cars, ourselves, and the cars drive themselves. They’re semi-autonomous. For those of us in the industry, those of us who understand something about technology, about machine learning, I actually like it; it’s pretty easy. It fixes my mistakes. I fix its mistakes.\nA lot in the press, though, about it, and Google’s position certainly is, this is like the worst place to be. Right? Because people are going to get checked out in the cars, are going to drive themselves into… What do you think about the ML\n(machine learning)\nhuman hybrids that we’re kind of, you know, embracing right now? How long are we going to have these crossover periods? I know you believe FSD is around the corner. Do you think this is really a problem, or we’re going to teach people to deal with ML?",
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"content": "Well, I mean, the transition period to new technology is always a little bumpy. But I think we published the safety stats, like basically miles driven on autopilot and miles driven manually. And this, I mean, it’s an order of magnitude different. So like, people would say, “Oh well, you’re playing with the statistics,” I’m like, “Listen, we’re just saying, miles driven autopilot, miles not driven autopilot,” and there’s a factor 10 difference. So I mean, even if we were like… we’re not fiddling with the statistics. This is not subtle. That is what I’m saying. It’s not subtle.\nThe truth is that people are actually not great at driving these two-ton death machines, you know. And people get tired, and they get drunk, and they get distracted, and they text, and they do all sorts of things they shouldn’t do. And then the cars crash, basically. When we’re embarking on the autonomy front, someone told me, I think that’s quite true, which is, even if you, for argument’s sake, reduce fatalities by 90% with autonomy, the 10% that do die with autonomy are still going to sue you. The 90% that are living don’t even know that that’s the reason they’re alive.\nNonetheless, I’ve had many conversations with the Tesla autopilot full self-driving team, who are just an outstanding group of people. And saying, like, listen, guys, it is better to pursue… – Like, the reality of doing the right thing matters more than the perception of doing the right thing. As long as we are confident that we’re doing the right thing, even if we are criticized and sued and all that, we should nonetheless do the right thing and not care about simply the perception of the right thing.",
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"content": "Okay, last question.\nRick Cutter, the ‘Cloud for Utilities’. Thank you so much for the hard work you’ve done with Tesla driving the EV market. As we move towards more green energy utilities, are getting rid of their fossil plants, coal plants, investing in renewables, there’s a difference in economic output they can deliver. Are you concerned at all as the growth of EVs continues? Do you think we could have a supply chain problem with energy down the road?",
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"content": "Yeah, I think that’s a very good question. The full answer is lengthy. I’ll try to give you the short version. The electricity demand, roughly… if we shift our transport to electric, then electricity demand approximately doubles, maybe a little more than doubles. And this is going to create a lot of challenges with the grid, especially for distribution to neighborhoods.\nAnd this is why Tesla has the product, the solar roof and solar retrofit – is because even if you increase sustainable power generation at the utility level, you’re still gonna have a distribution problem where you need new high-power lines, new medium-power lines, you need to dramatically increase the size of the substations, which means you’re gonna have to start locking down houses to increase the substation size. This is really unworkable unless you have significant local power generation at houses. And this is why I think it’s actually very important that a necessary part of the solution is local power generation, on roofs, on the houses of homes – very important.\nAnd then, of course, we need large, sustainable power generation developments, primarily wind and solar. But it needs to be paired with battery packs for steady-state so it can provide continuous power. And a lot of good things are happening in this regard. The growth of solar in the last several years has been incredible. I think it’s like a 40% compound annual growth rate in solar, and also a big growth in wind.\nI’m also kind of pro-nuclear, and I’m sort of surprised by a lot of the public sentiment against nuclear. I’m not saying we should go build a whole bunch of new nuclear plants, but I don’t think we should shut down ones that are operating safely. They did this in Germany, for example, and then had to create a whole bunch of coal power plants. And I don’t think that was the right decision, frankly. Yeah, anyway, so one or another, though, we’re going to have to have a lot more electricity generation. And this is primarily going to come down to solar and wind paired with batteries.",
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"content": "Simply mix clay with salt, put it in water, salt comes out with the lithium, done.",
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"content": "Yeah. It’s pretty crazy.",
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"content": "Yeah. So we’re really excited about this, and there really is enough lithium in Nevada alone to electrify the entire US fleet.",
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"content": "Yeah, that’s true. Actually, just what’s in Nevada. Basically, there’s so much damn lithium on Earth it’s crazy. It’s one of the most common elements on the planet.",
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"content": "Thank you.",
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"content": "So let’s see. David or Jason, I don’t know if you guys can speak, you’re welcome to if you’d like.",
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"content": "I just want to clear up what I said there. I believe I said something, has your feed gotten more hateful or something? And I said my For You feed has got a bit more hateful. I didn’t say I was seeing tons of hate speech on it. That’s not what I said.",
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"content": "No.",
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"content": "Well, it’s not just a drug. It’s a drug that gets a bad rep because you just have a little, it’s great.",
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"content": "Fine.",
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"content": "Yeah, a little sip here and there, and your inhibitions are relaxed, and it shows your true self. And, hopefully, you’re more joyous, and friendly, and happy, and everything’s good. The real worry is the people that can’t handle it. Like the real worry about people who can’t handle cars and go 0 to 60 in 1.9 seconds or anything. Have you ever considered something that — Like, imagine if one day, everyone has a car that’s on the same, at least, technological standard as one of your cars, and everyone agrees that the smart thing to do is not just to have bumpers but to perhaps have some sort of a magnetic repellent device, something, some electromagnetic field around the cars that as cars come close to each other, they automatically radically decelerate because of magnets or something.",
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"content": "Well, I mean, our cars brake automatically.",
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"content": "I have no idea. That’s what I remember. Or what is your version of that?",
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"content": "I don’t even know any Yellow Pages…",
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"content": "I agree with you (… 1:01:33) But so it was like, I think, April of 1995. We started working on it. I guess the idea was fairly simple to take mapping and apply it to the internet. And there were a few other companies trying to do it but no one with the very cool technology of what was called ‘vector-based mapping’, which is what we all use today; where the map is actually alive, you know, not just a picture.\nThat was very ahead of its time.\nI think we were the first. I know, there were other people putting maps on the internet. But I think we were the first to put vector-based mapping, which is the kind of technology used today on the internet – and door-to-door directions. So it was cool. I remember my brother and I pressing ‘go’ on his server at our office and it took about 60 seconds for the first door-to-door directions to come up on the screen. And even 60 seconds was amazing. Yeah, you’re like, “This is incredible! Door-to-door directions to anywhere! This is just amazing.” And …",
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"content": "It definitely seemed amazing at the time.",
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"content": "Not with just the media, just the truth in general.",
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"content": "I care about the truth very much. That’s why we have, for example, community notes on the X system, where, in order for a community note to surface and provide corrective information about what somebody posts… And my posts are equally subject to this, I’ve been community noted many times. In order for a community note to surface, people who have historically disagreed must agree in order for a community note to surface. And all of the code for community notes is open source, all of the data is open source, so you can completely recreate it from scratch. The way to build trust is transparency.",
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"content": "I have noticed community notes. I think that you are right about that and I do think community notes are helpful. I think any type of content moderation, I do think that’s helpful. You recently called content moderation, though, a digital chastity belt. Do you believe that X and you have some responsibility to moderate hate speech on the platform?",
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"content": "I think we have a responsibility to adhere to the law and we have a responsibility to be transparent about when things are shown, why they’re shown. That’s why we open source our algorithm. I think once you start going beyond the law, now you’re putting a thumb on the scale and we don’t want to put our thumb on the scale.",
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"content": "Yeah, you can warm it up. You could add air. You get some water there. I mean, over time, hundreds of millions of years or whatever it takes.",
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"content": "We’ll be a multi-planet species.",
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"content": "Yeah, that would be amazing.",
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"content": "We’re a multi-planet species. That’s what we want to be. I’m pro-human.",
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"content": "Yes. So please tell us, Germans are not really famous for building buildings very quickly. Look at – we’re in Berlin right now – look at the Berlin airport, right? How do you manage to build so quickly?",
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"content": "Well, it is actually quite difficult to get all the permits, and it requires a lot of effort and a lot of close cooperation with the authorities. So, I would definitely not say that it is easy to get the permits; it’s not easy. One of the approaches that we did take was to proceed at risk with temporary permits. So, there is a way to accelerate things in the system to go with temporary permits. But the risk is that your long-term permit could be denied, in which case that you have to stop everything.",
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"content": "And tear it down.",
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"content": "Yes. So, most companies are not willing to take the risk of the temporary permit and then the risk of having to stop and tear down.",
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"content": "Yeah, but I’m sure they’ve had bread and meat separately for a long time, and it was kind of a burger on the same plate. But somebody who actually combine them into the same thing to bite it and hold it makes it convenient. It’s a materials problem. Your hands don’t get dirty and whatever. Yeah, it’s brilliant.\n(inaudible)\nThat is not what I would have guessed.",
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"content": "But everyone knows, if you order a cheeseburger, you know what you’re getting. It’s not like some obtuse like, “I wonder what I’ll get?” Fries are, I mean, great. I mean, they’re the devil. But fries are awesome. And yeah, pizza is incredible.",
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"content": "Food innovation doesn’t get enough love, I guess is what we’re getting at.\n(laughs)",
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"content": "It’s great.",
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"content": "Porsche does a lot of that too. They do-",
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"content": "They did it as well.",
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"content": "They do a lot of their — They do some of their driver training school on these frozen surfaces. So, you’re just — The car is going sideways whether you like it or not. And you have to learn how to slide into corners and how to adjust.",
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"content": "Yeah. Electric cars have really great traction control because the reaction time is so fast.So, with a gasoline car, you’ve got a lot of latency. It takes a while for the engine to react, but for electric motors, incredibly precise. That’s why you’re like — You imagine like if you had like a printer or something, you wouldn’t have a gasoline engine printer. That would be pretty weird. Or like a surgical device, it’s going to be an electric motor on the surgical device, on the printer. Gasoline engine’s going to be just chugging away. It’s not going to have the reaction time.\nBut to an electric motor, it’s operating at the millisecond level. So, it can turn on and off traction within, like, inches of getting on the onus like, let’s say, you’re driving on a patch of ice, it will turn traction off, and then turn it on a couple of inches right after the ice, like a little patch of ice because in the frame of the electric motor, you’re moving incredibly slowly. You’re like a — you’re a snail. You’re just moving so slowly because it can see at a thousand frames a second. And so, it’s like, say ‘one Mississippi’, it just thought about at things a thousand times.",
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"content": "So, I’ve got a question. We’ve been traveling all over the place, and we have a sticker on the side of the car that says, “Munro Live”. And people are coming up and showing us their car and telling us about their experiences with the Tesla. These guys are really deep into loving this thing. And it doesn’t matter whether it’s that eight-year-old or six-year-old kid, they came up “Hey, mister, are you Sandy Munro?”\nPeople know, and they’re deeply involved in the Tesla. And yet, for some reason or other, we have a couple of little problems with our car, and then I see another car, and it’s a perfect build. If I would have had that – any kind of comment or response or whatever from that would be greatly appreciated.",
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"content": "Well, it took us a while to kind of iron up the production process, especially during a production ramp. If friends come up and ask me, “When should I buy a Tesla?” I’m like, well, either buy it right at the beginning or when the production reaches a steady state. But during that production ramp, it’s super hard to be in vertical climb mode and get everything right on the little details. It’s just a super difficult thing. If you really want things to be ideal, it’s actually very early cars or once the production is leveled off. That’s when it’s going to be best.",
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"content": "We noticed that – we have a 21, a Model 3 21 – and ours had the little problems, but at the end of the day this guy’s car was fabulous (\nshows video sequence\n), the painture was spectacular. But the paint was a big deal. But now, this other car I saw – and it was a Model 3 with a white interior, which I personally think is the better color; we got black – but that thing was absolutely pristine perfect. That’s as good as anybody could possibly do. I just don’t understand it. Mine was built this month, his was a month later, mine had problems, his is perfect.",
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"content": "Yeah, we actually did improve gap and paint quality quite a bit towards the end of last year, even in the course of December. We were able to really focus on it and improve it a great deal. One of the things that was happening when we were ramp (… 03:51) from production was the paint wasn’t necessarily drying enough. If you go faster, you just discover these things. If we knew them in advance, we’d fix them in advance. But you ramp the line, and then the paint that had an extra sort of minute to dry or two minutes or whatever now doesn’t have the two minutes, and so it was more prone to have issues. This is one example.\nProduction is hell. The real thing that, I think, is unique for cars, for Tesla, is achieving volume production. Any American start-up car company – I think, Tesla is the first to achieve volume production in a hundred years, basically. I think Chrysler was the last one. Prototypes are relatively speaking easy, and they’re also fun. Prototypes are easy and fun, and then reaching volume production with a reliable product at an affordable price is excruciatingly difficult.",
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"content": "Never?",
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"content": "Never.",
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"content": "How hard is it to get like one of them crazy plugs installed in your house? Is that difficult?",
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"content": "No, it’s super easy.It’s like a dryer plug. It’s like a dryer outlet.",
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"content": "Well, did you ever watch me on CNN? Did you watch…",
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"content": "I saw segment. CNN is generally considered Left, yeah.",
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"content": "Why do you say that?",
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"content": "Why do I say CNN is generally considered Left? I think if you look at any sort of media survey of what is on the Left or Right, I think they would say, for example, Fox is on the Right and CNN is on the Left.",
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"content": "And I’m saying I-",
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"content": "Then I say so that you don’t know what you’re talking about.",
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"content": "Really?",
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"content": "Yes, because you can’t give me a single example of hateful content, not even one tweet. And yet you claimed that the hateful content was high.",
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"content": "Alright, I’ll ask you another question around the billionaire BS. Say, tomorrow – we’ve talked – you get the phone call from President Biden. Next day, actually, we decide we elect you to Congress; somehow, this happens. You’re now working on tax bills; you’re working on tax policy. How do you tax someone like you? How do you tax billionaires?",
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"content": "I mean, first of all, I pay a lot of tax. I mean, my marginal tax rate is like 53%. So that’s not trivial. And then obviously, there’s like, you know, asset base taxes, the sales tax and everything else. There’s also the estate tax. In generally, I think the estate tax is a good tax. Like, if you think of assets beyond a certain level that are far beyond, let’s say, somebody’s ability to consume, then, at a certain point, really what you’re doing is capital allocation. It’s not money for personal expenditures; what you’re doing is capital allocation.\nAnd it does not make sense to take the job of capital allocation away from people who have demonstrated great skill in capital allocation and give it to an entity that has demonstrated very poor skill in capital allocation, which is the government. I mean, you could think of the government, essentially, as a corporation in the limit. The government is simply the biggest corporation with a monopoly on violence. And where you have no recourse. So, how much money (…) entity?",
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"content": "Can you explain the last part quickly? And then I want to move on to some product stuff.",
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"content": "Sure, I can talk for a bit longer if you’d like than the half an hour, if you’re worried about getting through other questions.",
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"content": "You make it fly?",
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"content": "Sure.",
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"content": "Do you anticipate that as being — I mean, you’re talking about the tunnels and then flying cars. Do you really think that’s going to be real?",
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"content": "Too noisy, and there’s too much airflow. So, the final issue with flying cars — I mean, if you get like one of those like toy drones, think of how loud those are and how much air they blow. Now, imagine if that’s like a thousand times heavier. This is not going to make your neighbors happy. Your neighbors are not going to be happy if you land a flying car in your backyard.",
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"content": "Shout out to Ted Nugent.",
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"content": "Okay, cool.",
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"content": "Yeah.",
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"content": "Yeah, there’s — You know, we have lots of fire, and loud explosions, and things, and people are cool with it.",
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"content": "Right.",
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"content": "Total hate speech.",
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"content": "That’s not what I said.",
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"content": "Okay. Well, why don’t you use For You? What’s wrong with it?",
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"content": "I’ve got to be respectful, Kara. How do you respond to allegations that you’re a living cybernetic organism stem from the future to save us? And secondly, …",
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"content": "I can neither confirm nor deny that.",
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"content": "He’s good. He’s good. And secondly, what do you think the probability is the general-purpose blockchains that have great utility will eclipse the value of like a finished product in Bitcoin?",
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"content": "Actually, I’m not sure how to answer the last one. I think just generally, public ledger stuff is good because I’m a fan of open source and just, you know, sunlight being a great disinfectant, and the less things occur in the dark, the better. And, you know, basically, blockchains are just,… it’s a cryptographic ledger, an open code. There’s probably a lot of good things that could be done with that.",
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"content": "Almost, yeah. But it’s not your only company. You have SpaceX, which seems to be a huge success. You have your own space program, you’re talking about a mission to Mars, you have Neuralink connecting computers to brains.",
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"content": "Neuralink is a small company.",
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"content": "It’s a small company?",
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"content": "It is very small.",
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"content": "To launch the Cybertruck.",
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"content": "Yeah.",
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"content": "It’s going to be a big launch, but I wanted to ask you right now more broadly just about the car business and what you see actually happening, and specifically the government put in place lots of policies, as you know, to try to encourage more EVs. And one of the things that’s happened uniquely is you have now a lot of car companies saying, “Actually this is too ambitious for us. These plans are too ambitious.” 4,000 dealers… I don’t know if you saw just yesterday, sent a letter to the White House saying, “This has gone too far, you’re going too far.”",
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"content": "This is EV?",
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"content": "Well, if you know how to turn into the corner once you get used to the feeling of it, there are actual benefits to it. You know, there are some benefits.",
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"content": "The car I had before Tesla was a 911.",
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"content": "997?",
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"content": "Yeah.",
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"content": "How do you have the time to do that, though? I mean, I understand that it’s not a big deal in terms of all the other things you do. But how do you have time to do anything? I just don’t understand your time management skills.",
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"content": "I mean, I didn’t spend much time on this flamethrower. To be totally frank, it’s actually just a roofing torch with an air rifle cover. It’s not a real flamethrower.",
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"content": "Which is why it says, “Not a flamethrower”.",
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"content": "That’s why we were very clear. This is not actually a flamethrower. And also, we’re told that various countries would ban the shipping of it. But they would ban flamethrowers, so we vary to solve this problem; for all the customs agencies, we labeled it ‘not a flamethrower’.",
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"content": "For a Ph.D. in applied physics?",
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"content": "Applied physics, material science.",
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"content": "Right. So even then, you were thinking of trying to do something in the space?",
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"content": "Actually, this was to work on energy storage solutions for electric cars. I’d actually worked at a company in Silicon Valley called Pinnacle Research, which did advanced capacitors. They were electrolytic capacitors. They actually were pretty good. They had like the energy density of a lead-acid battery, which for a capacitor, that’s a big deal. But they used ruthenium tantalum oxide. I think at the time, there was maybe like one or two tons of ruthenium mined per year in the world. So it’s not a scalable solution. But I thought there could be some solid-state solution, like just using chip-making equipment. That was going to be the basic idea. But it was one of those things where I wasn’t sure if success was one of the possible outcomes. It’s difficult to bound that problem exactly and say, okay…",
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"content": "Until you hit hell.",
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"content": "Yeah, but you can go — You can have 100 levels of tunnel. No problems.",
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"content": "Jesus Christ. I don’t want to be on 99. That would be a negative 99 floors.",
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"content": "This is one of the fundamental things people don’t appreciate about tunnels is that it’s not like roads. The fundamental issue with roads is that you have a 2D transport system and a 3D living and workspace environment. So, you’ve got all these tall buildings or concentrated work environments. And then, you want to go into those like 2D transport system with…",
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"content": "But someone else said, “The average age of people who die from Covid is older than the average age people die.”",
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"content": "Let’s just say it’s about the same.",
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"content": "That’s a beautiful way of looking at it. I mean, it’s unfortunate. It sucks, but it sucks if grandpa dies of Alzheimer’s or emphysema or leukemia. It sucks. It sucks when someone you love dies.",
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"content": "Yes. I mean actually, I think a lesson to be taken here that I think is quite important is that if you have your grandparents and that they’re age of grandparents, really be careful with any kind of flu or cold or something that is not dangerous to kids or young adults but is dangerous to the elderly. Basically, if your kid’s got a runny nose, they should stay away from their grandparents, no matter what it is. There’re things where a young immune system has no problem; an older one has a problem. In fact, a lot of the deaths are literally, it’s tragic, but they’re intra-family. It’s, the little kid had a cold or flu and they…",
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"content": "I mean, I personally think you have shown that you are mostly driven by really quite a deep sense of moral purpose. Like, your attempts to solve the climate problem have been as powerful as anyone else on the planet that I’m aware of. And I actually can’t understand… personally, I can’t understand the fact that you get all this criticism from the left about, “Oh my God, he’s so rich.” That’s disgusting. When climate is their issue, philanthropy is a topic that some people go to. Philanthropy is a hard topic. How do you think about that?",
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"content": "I think if you care about the reality of goodness instead of the perception of it, philanthropy is extremely difficult. SpaceX, Tesla, Neuralink and The Boring Company are philanthropy. If you say philanthropy is love of humanity, they are philanthropy. Tesla is accelerating sustainable energy. This is a love of… philanthropy. SpaceX is trying to ensure the long-term survival of humanity with a multi-planet species. This is love of humanity. You know, Neuralink is to help solve brain injuries and existential risk with AI. Love of humanity. Boring Company is trying to solve traffic, which is hell for most people, and that also is love of humanity.",
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"content": "How upsetting is it to you to hear this constant drumbeat of, “Billionaires, my God, Elon Musk, oh, my God”? Like, do you just shrug that off, or does it actually hurt?",
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"content": "I mean, at this point, it’s water off a duck’s back.",
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"content": "It seems like the state of public perception is shifting.",
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"content": "It is.",
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"content": "Like people are taking some deep breaths and relaxing, and because of the statistics, essentially across the board, it’s being recognized that it’s not as fatal as we thought it was. Still dangerous, still worse than a flu, but not as bad as we thought or we feared it could be.",
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"content": "Objectively, the mortality is much lower. At least a factor of 10, maybe a factor of 50 lower than initially thought.",
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"content": "I mean, that’s the way to fight that fear, I suppose, is to understand, is to learn.",
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"content": "Yeah, just say like, “Okay, how many people have actually died from nuclear accidents?” It’s like practically nothing. And say, “How many people have died from coal plants?” And it’s a very big number. So, obviously, we should not be starting up coal plants and shutting down nuclear plants. It just doesn’t make any sense at all. Coal plants like, I don’t know, 100 to 1000 times worse for health than nuclear power plants.",
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"content": "You want to go to the next one? It’s really bad. So, that 90, 180, and 360 degrees, everybody loves the math. Nobody gives a shit about 270.",
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"content": "It’s not super funny. I don’t know, like 2 or 3. This is not a LOL situation.\n(referring to next meme) That’s pretty good.",
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"content": "With the space that it takes off with the ovens that – you know, for the current technology – you can save all that real estate space now; that’s one aspect. And the cost reduction, the weight savings… I mean, there’s so many pluses.",
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"content": "Yes, there’s many things, but I have to wait until battery day, you know, hopeful in a few months; but I think we have some pretty exciting things to share.",
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"content": "Gali is very excited.\nYeah, it seems like the pace of the innovation of the battery thing has just taken off since you have some more capital and being able to have the Gigafactory be vertically integrated. Just seems like no other car companies making that many batteries. They’re not even thinking about what comes next.\nNot even come close.",
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"content": "It’s true. Other car companies just really want to outsource battery technology, not even making this battery module and cell. They’re obviously outsourcing the cells, but even outsourcing the modules and the packs. Yeah, you know, and it’s like, they’re really not thinking about fundamental chemistry improvements. There’s some pretty deep wizardry at Tesla on this front.\nOn this run, I should say a bit about electric vehicles or sustainable energy in general, you know. I said it was pretty, I think, obvious not just to me, but to a lot of people – you may even go back 30 years or longer – that we must have a sustainable energy solution. In fact, it’s totally logical; if it’s not sustainable, we must, at some point, find an alternative to it. And so, even if there were no environmental impacts tothat sort of fossil fuel economy, then we’d run out of them. And then we’d have economic collapse and the world’s civilization fall apart.\nSo, that was actually my initial motivation for electric vehicles. It’s like, “Okay, we got to have a solution that does not require mining hydrocarbons, that is sustainable in the long term.” It was not actually initially from an environmental standpoint because I did not realize the gravity of the environmental situation at that time. And I thought, actually, for sure, by now we have electric cars.",
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"content": "Some ‘\nReady Player One\n’ type shit that’s real. That seems — we have that\nHTC Vive\nhere. I’ve only done it a couple of times, quite honestly, because it kind of freaks me out.",
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"content": "Sure.",
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"content": "My kids fucking love it, man. They love it. They love playing these weirdo games and walking around that headset on. But part of me watching them do it goes, „Wow, I wonder if this is like the precursor.“ Just sort of like if you look at that phone that Gordon Gekko had on the beach, and you compare that-",
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"content": "Yes, the big cell phone.",
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"content": "Personally my For You I would see I get more of that kind of content, yeah, personally, but I’m not going to talk to the rest of Twitter.",
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"content": "You see more hate speech personally?",
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"content": "I would say I see more hateful content in that.",
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"content": "Content you don’t like or hateful? What do you mean? Describe a hateful thing?",
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"content": "Have you talked to other people behind the scenes? Is this is all happening?",
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"content": "I’ve talked to a lot of people. I’ve not found anyone who knows why. Have you?",
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"content": "I think we are all still trying to find out.",
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"content": "One of two things is, either it was a serious thing and we should know what it is or it was not a serious thing and then the board should resign.",
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"content": "I can’t remember whether I’ve asked you. This is my sort of wrapping up at this point. But yeah, do you have any regrets?",
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"content": "What was… Hindsight’s 2020, so a bunch of decisions that could have been made better for sure. But as I said, alls well that ends well. I think it’s gone pretty well. So the grand scheme of things, I can’t complain.",
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"content": "Okay. I’m going to just check my list of things to make sure I’ve actually-",
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"content": "Maybe if this is something that people on the Twitter want to say. We could ask them.",
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"content": "So, you mentioned that you doubt… well, not you doubt, but there’s days or moments when you doubt that this is even possible. It’s so difficult.",
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"content": "Well, at this point, I think we will get Starship to work. There’s a question of timing. How long will it take us to do this? How long will it take us to actually achieve full and rapid reusability? Because it will take probably many launches before we’re able to have full and rapid reusability. But I can say that the physics pencils out. At this point, I’d say I’m very confident success is in the set of all possible outcomes. For a while, I was not convinced that success was in the set of possible outcomes. Which is very important, actually.",
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"content": "You’re saying there’s a chance.",
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"content": "I’m saying there’s a chance Exactly. Just not sure how long it will take. But we have a very talented team. They’re working night and day to make it happen. Like I said, the critical thing to achieve for the revolution in spaceflight and for humanity to be a spacefaring civilization is to have a fully and rapidly reusable rocket, orbital rocket. There’s not even been any orbital rocket that’s been fully reusable ever. And this has always been the holy grail of rocketry. And many smart people, very smart people, have tried to do this before and they’ve not succeeded because it’s such a hard problem.",
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"content": "Be careful what you promise the internet.",
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"content": "So yeah, I guess it’ll be whatever people want really, you know.",
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"content": "What sort of timeline should we be thinking about of the first models that are actually made and sold?",
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"content": "Well, you know, the first units that we intend to make are for jobs that are dangerous, boring, repetitive, and things that people don’t want to do. And, you know, I think we’ll have like an interesting prototype sometime this year. We might have something useful next year, but I think, quite likely within at least two years. And then we’ll see rapid growth year over year of the usefulness of the humanoid robots and decrease in cost and scaling up production.",
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"content": "Right.",
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"content": "Do you see a rise in hate speech? Just your personal anecdote, do you? I don’t.",
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"content": "Personally my For You I would see I get more of that kind of content, yeah, personally, but I’m not going to talk to the rest of Twitter.",
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"content": "You see more hate speech personally?",
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"content": "In 1990, at the request of Carl Sagan, the Voyager One spacecraft, which is a spacecraft that’s reaching out farther than anything human-made into space, turned around to take a picture of Earth from 3.7 billion miles away. And as you’re talking about the pale blue dot, in that picture, the earth takes up less than a single pixel in that image. Appearing as a tiny blue dot, as a „pale, blue dot“, as Carl Sagan called it. So he spoke about this dot of ours in 1994. And if you could humor me, I was wondering if in the last two minutes you could read the words that he wrote describing this pale blue dot?",
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"content": "Sure. It’s funny, the universe appears to be 13.8 billion years old. Earth, like four and a half billion years old. In another half billion years or so, the sun will expand and probably evaporate the oceans and make life impossible on Earth. Which means that if it had taken consciousness 10% longer to evolve, it would never have evolved at all, just 10% longer. And I wonder how many dead one-planet civilizations there are out there in the cosmos that never made it to the other planet and ultimately extinguished themselves or were destroyed by external factors? Probably a few.\nIt’s only just possible to travel to Mars, just barely. If G was 10% more, wouldn’t work really. If G were 10% lower, it would be easy. You can go single stage from the surface of Mars all the way to the surface of the Earth because Mars is 37 % of Earth’s gravity, thereabouts. You need a giant boost to get off the Earth.\nChanneling Carl Sagan. “Look again at that dot. That’s here. That’s home. That’s us. On it everyone you love, everyone you know, everyone you ever heard of, every human being who ever was, lived out their lives. The aggregate of our joy and suffering, thousands of confident religions, ideologies, and economic doctrines, every hunter and forager, every hero and coward, every creator and destroyer of civilization, every king and peasant, every young couple in love, every mother and father, hopeful child, inventor and explorer, every teacher of morals, every corrupt politician, every „superstar,“ every „supreme leader,“ every saint and sinner in the history of our species lived there–on a mote of dust suspended in a sunbeam.\nOur planet is a lonely speck in the great enveloping cosmic dark. In our obscurity, in all this vastness, there is no hint that help will come from elsewhere to save us from ourselves. The Earth is the only world known so far to harbor life. There is nowhere else, at least in the near future, to which our species could migrate.”\nThis is not true. This is false. Mars.",
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"content": "And I think Carl Sagan would agree with that. He couldn’t even imagine it at that time. So thank you for making the world dream. And thank you for talking today. I really appreciate it. Thank you.",
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"content": "Thank you.",
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"content": "Everybody will be locked in together in this hive mind.",
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"content": "Tunnels will help it.",
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"content": "That will help a lot.",
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"content": "Yes.",
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"content": "It has to be.",
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"content": "Hopefully. I sure hope so.",
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"content": "Perfect.",
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"content": "Yes.",
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"content": "Yeah, for us, those are great reasons. But for anything objective standing outside, this is definitely a flawed system. This is like, if you went to the jungle and you watch these chimps engage in warfare and beat each other with wooden sticks…",
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"content": "Chimps are really mean.",
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"content": "They’re fucking real mean.",
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"content": "I saw this movie “Chimpanzee”, and I thought it was going to be like some Disney thing. I was like, holy cow.",
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"content": "Your content policy talks about hate speech.",
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"content": "Yes. We don’t promote hate speech.",
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"content": "And so you don’t consider that hate speech?",
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"content": "I guess you’re not understanding what I’m saying. You can sign up right now and do a hundred things that are hateful, but if nobody reads it, it doesn’t matter. So you can think of X as being… It’s much like the internet. It’s not some tiny publication with 20 articles a day. It’s 500 million.",
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"content": "Sometimes what’s elegant and simple is still hard. And it took us a lot of trials, but we’re happy where we ended up.",
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"content": "Yeah. I mean, everything is simple in recollection, after you… it’s hard until it’s discovered, and then it’s simple. So anyway, there’s a lot of really cool things going on that enable tabless. And it was really due to a really great engineering team. Drew and the rest of the team had done amazing work in achieving this tabless construction. I think it may sort of sound a bit silly to some people, but for people that really know cells, this is a massive breakthrough.",
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"content": "For cylindricals to be able to get rid of the tabs dramatically simplifies winding and coding. And has an awesome thermal and performance benefit.",
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"content": "Yeah. Just to elaborate on that a bit, it’s like when the cell is going through the system, it has to keep stopping where all the tabs are. You can’t do a continuous motion production if you have tabs. You have to keep stopping, and then there’s a rate at which you can start and stop and accelerate again, and it really slows down the rate of production. And then sometimes you get the tabs wrong, and you also lose a little bit of active area. It’s really a huge pain in the ass to have tabs from a production standpoint.",
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"content": "It’s not a happy storm?",
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"content": "No.",
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"content": "Tell us about that. Because I think that actually, when people try to really understand you, I think that a lot of this comes from some other place and I want to talk about that. Where do you think that is?",
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"content": "We need a psychiatrist couch here or something. I think to some degree, I was born this way and then I was amplified by a difficult childhood, frankly. But I can remember even in happy moments when I was a kid, that it just feels like there’s just a rage of forces in my mind constantly. Now, this productively manifests itself in technology and building things for the most part. And I think on balance, the output has been very productive. I think the results, as we discussed earlier with SpaceX, Tesla, PayPal which is still going today, the first internet company that I started. In fact, the first internet company I started, Zipto, was funded by a New York Times Company, Hearst, Knight Ritter.",
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"content": "More responses?",
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"content": "Yeah, I said more than what you just read.",
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"content": "No, there was absolutely more, but I’ll tell you the thing that struck me. And I’m an American Jew, it wasn’t just the people who had that view. It was actually people who really are antisemites who said, oh my goodness, go Elon. This is fabulous. And that actually was the thing that really set me back. I said to myself, what’s going on here? And I want to know how you felt about that in that moment when you saw all of this happening.",
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"content": "Yeah. Well, first of all, I did clarify almost immediately what I meant. I would say that that was… If I could go back and say I should in retrospect not have replied to that particular person, and I should have written in greater length as to what I meant. I did subsequently clarify it in replies, but those clarifications were ignored by the media. And essentially I handed a loaded gun to those who hate me. And arguably to those who are antisemitic. For that, I’m quite sorry. That was not my intention. So I did post on my primary timeline to be absolutely clear that I’m not an antisemitic and that I, in fact, if anything am , and the trip to Israel was planned before any of that happened. It was neither here nor there. Do you see this thing? Do you know what it is?",
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"content": "Great to see you, and congratulations.",
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"content": "Thank you.",
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"content": "You will never forget what is going on in the world when you think about when your child is born. You will know for the rest of this child’s life; you were born during a weird time.",
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"content": "That’s for sure.",
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"content": "That would be the weirdest.",
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"content": "Yeah. I mean, horses were tricky. You know, back when Manhattan had like 300.000 horses, then figure out like if a horse lives 15 years, you got 20,000 horses dropping dead every day or every year, I should say. Every year, it’s 20,000 horses if there are 300,000 horses in a 15-year lifespan.",
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"content": "Back in the\nGangs of New York\ndays, that movie.",
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"content": "Yeah.It’s a lot of dead horses. You needed a horse to move the horse, and they’ll probably get pretty freaked out if they have to move a dead horse.",
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"content": "That’s true. That could be useful in all environments. Like you said, a lot of people argue in the car, so maybe we can help them out. You’re a student of history, fan of Dan Carlin’s Hardcore History podcast.",
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"content": "Yeah, that’s great.",
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"content": "Greatest podcast ever.",
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"content": "Yeah, I think it is actually.",
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"content": "Emerald mine.",
"role": "user"
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"content": "Yeah. I’d like to see a picture of the alleged emerald mine.",
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"content": "Because you’ve been community noted on that tweet.",
"role": "user"
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"content": "Yeah.",
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"content": "Don’t you think though, it’s difficult to filter the information that’s coming out of China. To accurately, really get a real true representation of what happened. The propaganda machine is very strong. The World Health Organization appears to have been complicit with a lot of their propaganda.",
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"content": "The thing is that American companies have massive supply chains in China. Like Tesla, for example. We have hundreds of suppliers. Like tier one, two, three, four suppliers throughout China. So, we know if they are able to make stuff or not. We know if they have issues or not. China is back at full steam, and pretty much every US company has some significant number of suppliers in China. So you know if they’re able to provide things or not or if there’s a high mortality rate. Tesla has like 7,000 people in China. So, zero people died.",
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"content": "Okay. So that’s a real statistic that’s coming from…",
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"content": "Yeah.",
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"content": "A better design?",
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"content": "I mean, probably. I think it is, yes.",
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"content": "Who have you talked to about this?",
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"content": "I’ve talked to friends.",
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"content": "This kind of tension between doctors and the light-",
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"content": "This is really a very good summary. It really gets to the point. This is not simply regurgitating a brave new world. It’s actually getting to the salient element of Soma as a drug. Do you actually want to be in a situation where everyone is happy all the time, even though it’s artificial? Or is it better to confront the challenges of life and experience the full range of human emotions, even if it means experiencing pain and suffering? For",
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"content": "Those listening, by the way, Elon just read directly from Grok, which is a really nice kind of insightful, philosophical analysis of the tension here. Interesting.",
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"content": "It pretty much nails it. In conclusion, Soma from Brave New World is fictional drug that’s used to explore some deep philosophical questions about the nature of happiness and the role of drugs in society. It’s a powerful symbol of the dangers of using drugs to escape from reality and the importance of confronting the challenges of life head on. Nailed it. And the crazy thing is we do have a real drug called Soma, which is like the drug in the book. And I’m like, “They must’ve named it Probably.” Some of the real drug is quite effective on back pain.",
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"content": "The hole would be small. How big would the hole be that you have to drill and then replace with this piece? It’s only one hole?",
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"content": "Well, yeah, the device we’re working on right now is about, it’s about an inch in diameter. Your skull is pretty thick, by the way.",
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"content": "Mine is for sure.",
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"content": "It might actually, literally. I mean, if you’re a big guy, your skull is actually fairly thick. A skull is like seven to 14 millimeters.",
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"content": "I think we are all still trying to find out.",
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"content": "One of two things is, either it was a serious thing and we should know what it is or it was not a serious thing and then the board should resign.",
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"content": "What do you think of Sam Altman?",
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"content": "I have mixed feelings about Sam. The ring of power can corrupt, and he has the ring of power. So I don’t know. I think I want to know why Ilya felt so strongly as to fire Sam. This sounds like a serious thing. I don’t think it was trivial. And I’m quite concerned that there’s some dangerous element of AI that they’ve created.",
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"content": "I don’t know if it’s fully or if it’s — Like this watch right here, this is a Casio.It’s called Pro Trek. And it’s like an outdoors watch, and it’s solar-powered. And so, it has the ability to operate for a certain amount of time on solar.So, if you have it exposed, it could function for a certain amount of time on solar.",
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"content": "Yeah. Well, you know, like there are self-winding watches where, you know, it’s just got a weight in the watch. And as you move your wrist, the way it moves from one side to the other, and it winds the watch up. That’s a pretty cool thing.",
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"content": "Yeah.\nWell, it’s amazing that like Rolex is that it’s all done mechanically.There are no batteries in there. There is no nothing.",
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"content": "Yeah. You could do the same thing. You create a little charger that’s based on wrist movement. It really depends on how much energy your watch uses.",
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"content": "I think that’s the thing. They don’t like to keep regular chimps at zoos because bonobos are just always jacking off and…",
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"content": "Yeah.",
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"content": "Fucking it.\nIn San Diego.\nWhat’s that? They have in San Diego?\nSan Diego’s got some, yeah.\nReally? Interesting.",
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"content": "Yeah.",
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"content": "In fact, that with just electricity.",
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"content": "Yes, exactly. In fact, on Mars – we hopefully get there at some point – the atmosphere is CO2, and there’s water ice throughout Mars, so you can take the CO2 and H2O and turn that into CH4, which is methane and oxygen. So ultimately, even rockets can be electrified.",
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"content": "So first, repowering the existing grid with renewables. And this is going to be a consistent theme. You’ll see our estimates for the number of terawatt hours, terawatts, and trillions of investment at the bottom of the page. You know, this is already actively occurring in front of us. 60% of the generation added to the US grid was solar in 2022. And actually, on a year-on-year basis, solar deployment is growing 50%, year on year, as of 2022. So, this is a serious upswing, and if we continue this trend, this is going to be behind us before we even know it.\nSecond, switching to electric vehicles. Again, 21% reduction in fossil fuel use by doing this alone. Obviously, Tesla was heavily engaged in this activity as well, along with many others. Overall, EV production grew 59% year on year in 2022. And EVs hit an amazing 10% market share. I mean, it’s an awesome milestone. I’m super excited to see that.",
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"content": "This is obviously happening very rapidly. And I think really all cars will go to fully electric and autonomous. And so riding a non-autonomous gasoline car, it’s going to be analogous riding a horse and using a flip phone. That’s basically going to be the situation.",
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"content": "Yeah, it’s hard to measure in direct impact, but it’s an experiment that we shouldn’t be performing. And the sooner we can end the experiment, the sooner we can kind of move on in a fully sustainable way that is actually lower cost. I think the thing that people haven’t fully internalized is once we do get to the 25k car, the ownership cost of that car is incredibly lower than the prior car. And then on the solar side and wind, with the cost of solar wind coming down and with batteries coming down with them, the actual cost of energy on the grid is going down. So we’re sort of moving towards a sustainable lower-cost future. So there’s not like a sacrifice.",
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"content": "That’s true. It is a false dichotomy to say that it’s either prosperity or sustainability. This is often used by oil and gas to say like, “Oh, well, do you want people to lose their jobs? Do you want to lower people’s standards of living? Do you want to make all these economic sacrifices really in order to have sustainability?” And the reality, as Drew was saying, is that sustainable energy is going to be lower cost, not higher cost than fossil fuels.\nA speaker from the audience:\nElon, quick question for you, right here in front. First, thanks for having everyone. I was telling a friend, the one company to go work for that’s going to have the biggest structural impact over the next ten years at scale, it’s probably Tesla. So kudos to everyone at Tesla for what they’ve done to this point and going forward.\nThe two questions for you: As you’ve looked at the auto in the storage markets – I know you’ve talked about it at kind of 50/50 long-term – but it seems like a lot of the battery cost curve achievements that you presented today really make some of these storage opportunities much more feasible over the next five years. And so I guess the first part of the question is, does your calculus upon learning and improving these things change on that 50/50 mix, or is there a role where storage becomes bigger?\nAnd then the second part of the question: With all these huge grand visions, who’s going to be with Tesla from a corporate perspective, accomplishing these things? Obviously, Tesla can’t do it alone, but when you look at some of the traditional auto industry or power, et cetera, I don’t see a lot of other Teslas.\nWell, actually, there’s a lot of companies in China that I think are doing great work with electric vehicles and also with stationary storage, although we don’t see that much in the US yet, but I think probably we will in the future. I don’t know, obviously we’re doing everything we can to encourage other companies to move to sustainable transport and also make stationary storage batteries.\nWe made our patents freely available. We really try to tell these companies, “Hey, you really need to do this, or you won’t exist in the future,” but they don’t believe it. So we’ve talked until we’re blue in the face. What are we supposed to do? But we really are hopeful that other companies will also do what we’re doing and that will make a sustainable future come sooner.",
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"content": "From a fundamental market size perspective, we did the first ground-up work to show the size of the market in terawatt-hours, and they are roughly 50/50. 10 TWh for transportation, 10 TWh for the grid. And part of that is because the grid batteries…- because when you’re making a power plant, you’re making a large investment, our 25-year assets are greater. If the grid batteries were a 10-year kind of thing, the grid battery market would be bigger. But because it’s a longer-duration asset, they’re roughly the same size.\nThinking long-term, is there any other segments that this new battery will be able to disrupt or electrify beyond just the initial Model 2 or cheaper sedan? Like a boat, Boring Company loop, plane…",
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"content": "Where are you, Gali? Are you there?",
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"content": "Okay. So let’s talk about trans rights. When you decided to talk about the trans rights movement, you said that it was a woke mind virus. Why do you believe the trans rights movement is a woke mind virus? What do you mean by woke mind virus?",
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"content": "Woke mind virus is when you stop caring about people’s skills and their integrity and you start focusing instead on gender and race and other things that differ from that. I think the woke mind virus is fundamentally racist, fundamentally sexist and fundamentally evil. And we’ve got a little bit more time, so you choose your questions carefully.",
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"content": "Okay. Okay. Thank you for that. But I would appreciate you answering these. I think it’s important that we’re doing this. I think it’s important to the world to hear this, especially what’s going on in our country. The reason I ask you, look, and there are a whole lot of things that people maybe have questions about when it comes to transgender people, even people who are part of the LGBTQ+ community have questions about that. But if you are a free speech absolutist, and that is part of the First Amendment, also the freedom of expression falls under that First Amendment as well, so why can’t people choose to identify with the gender that they feel comfortable with or use a pronoun? Isn’t that part of freedom of expression?",
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"content": "I guess they can ask others to do whatever they feel… They can ask others to do anything. It’s a different question whether they mandate that others do that thing.",
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"content": "Alright, next.\nHi Technoking. How do you respond to allegations…?\nYou call him ‘technoking’?",
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"content": "That is my formal title.",
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"content": "I’ve got to be respectful, Kara. How do you respond to allegations that you’re a living cybernetic organism stem from the future to save us? And secondly, …",
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"content": "I can neither confirm nor deny that.",
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"content": "Crystal clear.",
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"content": "Including all the entire sensory experience.",
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"content": "Emotions, everything.",
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"content": "Everything and play it back, and in fact, you can edit it.",
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"content": "So, the key to the economics of the cars, the Semi, of these houses is the falling price of lithium-ion batteries, which you’ve made a huge bet on as Tesla. In many ways, that’s almost the core competency. And you’ve decided that to really, like, own that competency; you just have to build the world’s largest manufacturing plant to double the world’s supply of lithium-ion batteries. What is this? (Showing picture)",
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"content": "Yeah, so that’s the Gigafactory; progress so far on the Gigafactory. Eventually, you can sort of roughly see that there’s sort of a diamond shape overall, and when it’s fully done, it’ll look like a giant diamond, or that’s the idea behind it, and it’s aligned on true north. It’s a small detail.",
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"content": "And capable of producing, eventually, like a hundred gigawatt-hours of batteries a year.",
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"content": "A hundred gigawatt-hours. We think probably more, but yeah.",
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"content": "I mean, this is a good encapsulation of the absurdity of human civilization, seals in headphones.",
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"content": "Yes.",
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"content": "What are the pros and cons of open sourcing AI to you as another way to combat a company running away with AGI?",
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"content": "In order to run really deep intelligence, you need a lot of compute. So it’s not like you can just fire up a PC in your basement and be running AGI, at least not yet. Grok was trained on 8,000 A100’s running at peak efficiency and Grok’s going to get a lot better, by the way, we will be more than doubling our compute every couple months for the next several months.",
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"content": "Well, even… Jamie, didn’t you say that the guy who makes Black Mirror…\nJami\ne\n:\n… Oh, my Mic’s off. Yeah, he said it’s not a good time to start season six.\nYeah, he wants to hold off because reality…",
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"content": "He’s nailed it?",
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"content": "…is Black Mirror.",
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"content": "Oh man.",
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"content": "Oh, there are mics. Wait for the mic.",
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"content": "Oh, there are mics. Okay, great, great.",
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"content": "All right.",
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"content": "Okay. We’ll definitely need to give people mics because otherwise, there’s no way. We’re going to pass some mics out.\nA speaker from the audience:\n[inaudible]\nOh, we don’t have a name for the $25,000 car yet.",
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"content": "16 hours. I’m like 16 hours. Yeah.",
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"content": "So like at night or at a certain…",
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"content": "Yeah. So I get to a certain point, and then I count out, I usually hit the stopwatch on my phone, and then I look at 15 hours, and I’m like, “Oh, okay. Got an hour before I can eat.” And so anything in between that is just water or coffee.",
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"content": "Actually, this may be a useful bit of advice for people, but eating before you go to bed is a really bad idea and actually negatively affects your sleep. And it can actually cause heartburn that you don’t even know is happening, and that subtle heartburn, it affects your sleep because you’re horizontal and your body’s digesting. So if you want to improve the quality of your sleep and be healthier, it’s do not eat right before you go to sleep. It’s one of the worst things you could do.",
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"content": "I mean, the challenge is part of the fun. I have seen directly, you’re actually a world-class, incredible video game player. And I think Diablo, so you’re just picking up a new game and you’re figuring out its fundamentals. You’re also with the Paragon Board and the build are not somebody like me who perfectly follows whatever they suggest on the internet. You’re also an innovator there, which is hilarious to watch. It’s like a mad scientist just trying to figure out the Paragon Board and the build. Is there some interesting insights there about if somebody’s starting as a druid, do you have advice?",
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"content": "I would not recommend playing a druid in the eternal realm. Right now I think the most powerful character in the seasonal realm is the Sorcerer with the lightning balls. The smokes have huge balls in the seasonal.",
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"content": "Yeah, that’s what they say.",
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"content": "So have huge balls. They do huge balls of lightning.",
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"content": "Have you thought about something like that?",
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"content": "It takes a lot of energy.",
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"content": "Like some sort of a filter, giant building-sized filter sucks carbon out in the atmosphere? Is that possible?",
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"content": "No, no, it doesn’t. It’s not possible.",
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"content": "Well, yeah, right. But the SEC, right?",
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"content": "Yes. We’re going to ask for a refund.",
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"content": "Yeah. Okay.",
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"content": "Yeah.",
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"content": "It’s true, I admit it, we are all men in this room. We’re all gross.",
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"content": "Yeah. Just go to the restroom; you can see it’s horrible.",
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"content": "Yes, we’re gross. My nine-year-old daughter yells at me; she goes, “Did you wash your hands?” She makes me go back and wash my hands. She’s right. Nine years old. If I had a nine-year-old boy, do you think he would care? He wouldn’t give a fuck if I washed my hands.",
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"content": "True. And I think that there’s definitely some silver linings here in improved hygiene and-",
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"content": "You know what I mean? Where they don’t realize what it is. There’s something fun about that for everybody else.",
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"content": "Yeah, I think it’s pretty great. It might be the best news source.",
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"content": "Do you know who\nTitania McGrath\nis? Hilarious, it’s Andrew Boyle. He’s a British fellow. Brilliant guy who’s been on the podcast before, and he has this a fictional character, this a pseudonym Titania McGrath who’s like the ultimate social justice warrior.",
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"content": "Is this, like, a female avatar?",
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"content": "As one does.",
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"content": "Yeah. In units of 747, a 747 is only about a quarter of a million pounds of thrust, so for every 10 million pounds of thrust, there’s forty 747s. So, this would be the thrust equivalent of 120 747s, with all engines blazing.",
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"content": "And so even with a machine designed to escape Earth’s gravity, I think you told me last time, this thing could actually take a fully loaded 747, people, cargo, everything, into orbit.",
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"content": "Exactly. This can take a fully loaded 747 with maximum fuel, maximum passengers, maximum cargo on the 747 – this can take it as cargo.",
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"content": "Well, I want to come back to autonomous vehicles, but wanted to just stay a little bit more on the role of government. You said at this conference actually a year ago that you think government should really just be hands-off when it comes to innovation. Though with this bill, there is a lot of support for EVs. And it could be the biggest change that we’ve seen throughout the country in terms of the infrastructure of EVs, and it helps Tesla. What do you think the role of government should be?",
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"content": "I think the role of government should be that of like a referee, but not a player on the field. Generally, government should, I think, just try to get out of the way and not impede progress. I think that there’s a general problem, not just in the US, but in most countries where the rules and regulations keep increasing every year. Rules and regulations are immortal; they don’t die. Occasionally you see some law with a sunset provision. But really, otherwise, the vast majority of rules and regulations live forever.\nAnd so, if more rules and regulations are applied every year, and it just keeps growing and growing, eventually, it just takes longer and longer, and it’s harder to do things. And there’s not really an effective garbage collection system for moving rules and regulations. And so, gradually, this hardens the arteries of civilization, where you’re able to do less and less over time. So I think the government should be really trying hard to get rid of rules and regulations that perhaps had some merit at some point but don’t have merit currently. But there’s very little effort in this direction. This is a big problem.",
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"content": "And I also want to come back to this later; I know that you do have some other stance on sort of AI and what the rules and regulations we should have on that. But right now, you’re sitting in a Tesla factory. Where/how are you spending your time these days between the split between SpaceX and Tesla?",
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"content": "It’s about even between SpaceX and Tesla. It depends on, you know, what is the kind of crisis of the moment. So some weeks will be more Tesla, more SpaceX. But I work a lot; I work seven days a week and put in some pretty crazy hours. But it really depends on where I’m needed most. Like, basically just, I triage the tasks and try to do the things that are most useful or where I’m most needed. It varies from one week to the next.\nBut just going back to that infrastructure bill for a second, because some of the criticism of Tesla is like, hey, Tesla gets all these subsidies. But it’s worth noting that for the vehicle purchase tax credit – the $7,500 – Tesla stopped getting that like two years ago, whereas everyone else, I think, except for GM, still gets the $7,500 tax credit. So all of our sales this year, and last year, had nothing to do with the tax credit because we’re no longer eligible because we’ve made so many electric cars.\nTesla has made roughly two-thirds of all the electric cars in the United States. I’m not sure if most people are aware of that. So Tesla has made basically twice as many electric vehicles as the rest of the industry combined. And we don’t need the $7,500 tax credit. I would say, honestly, I would just can this whole bill. Don’t pass it. That’s my recommendation.",
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"content": "Like campfires.",
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"content": "Yeah, exactly. You don’t need campfire. Don’t need to roast marshmallows to have fun.",
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"content": "Right.",
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"content": "So, yeah, I think in principle you would be able to communicate very quickly and with far more precision ideas. Language would – I’m not sure what would happen to language. In a situation like this, you would be able to just…- it’d be kind of like\nThe Matrix\n. If you want to speak a different language – no problem.",
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"content": "And when your friends or your family came up to you and said, look, there’s nations that can’t do this. You’re a guy. I mean, you have some resources; what did you say or do or think?",
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"content": "I had a lot of friends of mine try to talk me out of starting a rocket company because they thought it was crazy. And one friend of mine made me watch a video of rockets blowing up. And there were just lots of people that thought it was a really crazy idea. And there were some people that had tried to start rocket companies, not succeeded. And they tried to talk me out of it. But the thing is that – their premise for talking me out of it was, well, we think you’re going to lose the money that you invest. I was like, well, that was my expectation anyway, so I don’t really mind if I lose… – I mean, I mind, but I mean it’s not like I was trying to figure out the rank-ordered best way to invest money and on that basis chose space. It’s not like that I thought, wow…",
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"content": "You weren’t looking at like money-market bonds, AAA bonds, rocket company. You weren’t like…",
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"content": "I could do real estate. I could invest in shoemaking. Anything. And, whoa, space is the highest ROI\n(return on investment)\n– that is not what I… – it wasn’t the premise. I just thought that it was important that humanity expands beyond Earth, and we weren’t doing that, so maybe there was something I could do to kind of spur that on. Then, I was able to compress the costs of the spacecraft and everything down to a relatively manageable number. And I got stuck on the rocket. The US rockets were way too expensive. I ended up going to Russia. I flew to Russia three times to negotiate a purchase of an ICBM\n(Intercontinental Ballistic Missile)\n. I tried to buy two of the biggest ICBMs in the Russian fleet in 2001 and 2002. And I actually negotiated a price.",
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"content": "I guess, you know, you’re not going to be running Tesla all the time. What’s the next step for you?",
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"content": "Well, I certainly I’ll be running Tesla and SpaceX into the foreseeable future. And, you know, key goal with Tesla is to be able to make an affordable, great electric car, a sort of third-generation car. Because you can only change the world for electric cars if people can afford to buy a great electric car. Affordable electric cars are not great, and the great electric cars are not affordable. We need great electric cars that are affordable. So that’s the goal with Tesla. And with SpaceX, it’s a bit of a longer-term goal because we need to make reusability work with rockets. That’s fundamental to improving the cost of spaceflight by a factor of 100. And then we need to make the rockets really big and be able to send large amounts of people and cargo to Mars. And right now, nobody’s been to Mars. So this is a very tall hill to climb.",
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"content": "Do you want to be one of those to try the trip?",
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"content": "I’d like to. I mean, I’ll go as long as I think SpaceX will be okay without me. Then I’ll go to Mars.",
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"content": "Yeah, exactly. There are problems as you make cells larger. In fact, supercharging and thermals in general, become really challenging as you make bigger cells. And this was the challenge that our team set our sights on to overcome. And we did; we came up with this tabless architecture that maybe you’ve heard about, that basically removes the thermal problem from the equation and allows us to go to the absolute lowest cost form factor and the simplest manufacturing process.\nAnd this is what we mean when we talk about tabless. It’s kind of a beautiful thing.",
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"content": "Yeah. That’s what these t-shirts mean, but it’s very esoteric. It was like, nobody could figure it out.",
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"content": "Yeah, we basically took the existing foils, laser pattered them, and enabled dozens of connections into the active material through this shingled spiral you can see with simpler manufacturing, fewer parts, 50-millimeter versus 250-millimeter electrical path length, which is how we get all the thermal benefits.",
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"content": "Yeah. This is important to appreciate. Basically, the distance that that electron has to travel, it’s just much less. You actually have a shorter path length in a large tabless cell than you have in the smaller cell with tabs. This is a big deal. So even though the cell is bigger, it actually has more power. The power to weight ratio is actually better than the smaller cell with tabs.\nThis is, again, this is quite hard to do. Nobody’s done it before, and it really took a tremendous amount of effort within Tesla Engineering to figure out how do we make a frigging tabless cell and have it actually work and then connect that to the top cap. There’s a whole bunch of things that we’re keeping a little secret sauce here that we’re not telling everything, but…",
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"content": "Yeah, we’re a weird thing, you know. And I’ve often wondered if whether or not we’re – you know, our ultimate goal is to give birth to some new thing. And that’s why we’re so obsessed with technology. Because it’s not like this technology is really…- I mean, it’s certainly enhancing our lives in a certain way, but, I mean, ultimately, is it making people happier right now? Most technology, I would say, no. In fact, you and I were talking about social media before this, about just not having Instagram on your phone and not dealing, and you feel better.",
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"content": "Yes, I think, one of the issues with social media, it’s been pointed out by many people, is that I think, maybe particularly Instagram – people look like they have a much better life than they really do.",
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"content": "Right.",
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"content": "So…",
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"content": "How does this… – I don’t want to get too much into it, but I’m curious about this one particular thing. You decided at some point you need to buy an ICBM?",
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"content": "Yeah. Well, actually, at first, I tried to buy just a normal launch vehicle that they use to launch satellites, but those are too expensive.",
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"content": "I see. I see.",
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"content": "The Boeing Delta II would have cost $65 million each, so two would have been $130 million. And then I was like, woah, okay, that breaks my budget right there. I tried to negotiate with them. And that was not… I did not make progress.",
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"content": "They like it.",
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"content": "Yeah.",
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"content": "And you want to keep them away from regular schools?",
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"content": "No, I just didn’t see that the regular schools… they weren’t doing the things that I thought should be done. Like, you know, those two principals, they weren’t adhering to those principles. So I thought, well, let’s see what we can do. Maybe creating a school will be better. And actually, I hired a teacher from the school they were at, who also agreed with me that there was a better way to do it.",
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"content": "A lot of people seem to be using this tragedy to beat the drums of war and feed the military industrial complex. Do you worry about this, the people who are rooting for escalation and how can it be stopped?",
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"content": "One of the things that does concern me is that there are very few people alive today who actually viscerally understand the horrors of war, at least in the US. I mean, obviously there are people on the front lines in Ukraine and Russia who understand just how terrible war is, but how many people in the West understand it? My grandfather was in World War II. He was severely traumatized. He was there I think for almost six years in Eastern North Africa and Italy. All his friends were killed in front of him, and he would’ve died too, except they randomly gave some, I guess IQ test or something, and he scored very high. He was not an officer. He was I think a corporal or a sergeant or something like that because he didn’t finish high school because he had to drop out of high school because his dad died and he had to work to support his siblings. So because he didn’t graduate high school, he was not eligible for the offset corps.\nSo he kind of got put into the cannon fodder category basically. But then randomly they gave him this test. He was transferred to British intelligence in London. That’s where we met my grandmother. But he had PTSD next level, next level. I mean, just didn’t talk, just didn’t talk. And if you tried talking to him, he’d just tell you to shut up. And he won a bunch of medals, never bragged about it once, not even hinted nothing. I found out about it because his military records were online. That’s how I know. So he would say like, “No way in hell do you want to do that again.” But how many people… Obviously, he died, he 20 years ago or longer, actually 30 years ago. How many people are alive that remember World War II? Not many.",
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"content": "And the same perhaps applies to the threat of nuclear war.",
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"content": "Yeah, I mean, there are enough nuclear bombs pointed at United States to make the radioactive revel balance many times.",
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"content": "Right. If I was a fashion designer, I’d be taking ideas from this because the stuff that makes-",
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"content": "Absolutely.",
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"content": "… actually original.",
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"content": "The AI fashion is incredible. So can we just print that somehow or make it, because it’s amazing.",
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"content": "Are you missing something? I don’t know. I think that when I read that, I said, like many of my critics or detractors, they never really watched me on CNN, they just saw the clips of me either on social media or maybe on Fox News or on conservative media where I’ve become a character or a caricature of what I actually am and is taken out of context.",
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"content": "Sure. Well, how would you describe yourself?",
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"content": "I would describe myself as someone who is… I am independent in my thinking and I vote for people based on the issues and how I feel about it, not necessarily because of political leaning of some sort.",
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"content": "Well, I agree with that approach. I think that’s generally how people should take things, which is, there are a whole set of issues which are somewhat arbitrarily bucketed into Right or Left, but I think most citizens would think that they would agree with some things on the Left, but not everything, or they would agree with some things on the Right, but not everything. So that’s what I think most people would feel, I guess.",
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"content": "It drives itself.",
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"content": "It’s driving itself better every day. We’re about to release the software that will enable you to just turn it on, and it’ll drive from highway on-ramp to highway exit, do lane changes, overtake other cars-",
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"content": "Jesus.",
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"content": "To go from one interchange to the next. If you get on, say, the 405, get off 300 miles later, and go through several highway interchanges, and just overtake other cars, and hook into the nav system, and then-.",
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"content": "Yeah. Well, I think that people are kind of learning that particularly because of this whole pandemic and this relationship that we have with China, that there’s a lot of value in the making things and in the making things here.",
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"content": "Yes. Somebody’s got to do the real work. You know, like, making a car, it’s an honest day’s living, that’s for sure. Making anything, really, or providing a valuable service like providing good entertainment, good information, these are all valuable things to do. Yeah, there should be more of it.",
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"content": "Did you have a moment where – is this something that this idea of getting rid of your material possessions – is it something that built up over time, or did you have a moment of realization where you realized that.",
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"content": "Yeah, I’ve been thinking about it for a while. You know, part of it is I have a bunch of houses, but I don’t spend a lot of time in most of them. That doesn’t seem like a good use of assets. Somebody could probably be enjoying those houses and get better use of them than me.",
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"content": "But there’s something engaging about the mechanical, just like the gears and, it’s very analog. But it’s so stupid in comparison to the Tesla. Like when I want to go somewhere in the Model S, I hit the gas, and it just goes, whee. It’s like, it violates time.",
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"content": "You’ve tried it like Ludicrous Plus and stuff like that?",
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"content": "Oh yeah.",
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"content": "We just did a software update where it’ll do, like a cheetah stance. So yeah. So, because it’s got a dynamic air suspension so it lowers the back.",
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"content": "It really is. Yeah. It’s an art form as well. It’s like fine food, it’s a delicious sandcastle. It’s temporary. It doesn’t last very long. But there’s something about it that’s very pleasing.",
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"content": "Yeah. I don’t know what advice to give, maybe having tasty food but smaller amounts of it.",
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"content": "Yeah. And I think regulated feeding windows, really the way to go, some sort of an intermittent fasting approach. When I started doing that, I found myself to be quite a bit healthier. When I’ve deviated from that, I’ve gained weight.",
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"content": "So, what…",
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"content": "But how much different than people today? Like, if you had to explain it to a person who didn’t really understand what you were saying – how much different are you talking about? When you say, ‘radically improved’, what do you mean? You mean mind reading?",
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"content": "It will be difficult to really appreciate the difference. It’s kind of like, how much smarter are you with a phone or computer than without. It’s, you’re vastly smarter actually. You know, you can answer any question if you connect with the internet. You can answer any question pretty much instantly, any calculation; your phone’s memory is essentially perfect. You can remember flawlessly. Your phone can remember videos, pictures, and everything perfectly.\nYour phone is already an extension of you. You’re already a cyborg. You don’t even – well, most people don’t realize they are already a cyborg. It’s that phone is an extension of yourself. It’s just that the data rate, the communication rate between you and the cybernetic extension of yourself that is your phone and computer, is slow. It’s very slow. And that is like a tiny straw of information flow between your biological self and your digital self. And we need to make that tiny straw like a giant river; huge, high bandwidth interface.\nIt’s an interface problem, data rate problem. Solve the data rate problem, then, I think, we can hang on to human-machine symbiosis through the long term. And then people may decide that they want to retain their biological self or not. I think they will probably choose to retain their biological self.",
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"content": "Versus some sort of Ray Kurzweil scenario where they download themselves into a computer?",
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"content": "You will be essentially snapshotted into a computer at any time. If your biological self dies, you could probably just upload into a new unit literally.",
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"content": "…four, three, two, one, boom. Thank you, thanks for doing this, man. I really appreciate it.",
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"content": "Hey, you’re welcome.",
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"content": "It’s very good to meet you.",
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"content": "Nice to meet you, too.",
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"content": "Makes sense. Speaking of generative content, is it possible for you guys to add a flag that says that, “Hey, this video or this image is…” I make a lot of AI generative content, and a lot of it looks real. I put one of Donald Trump making out with Gavin Newsom, and a lot of people thought it was real-",
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"content": "Oh, God.",
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"content": "Yeah, on the timeline.",
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"content": "You anything, it looks pretty real, including the voice. That can get the voice matched and the video matched. It’s really getting to the point where it’ll be quite easy to generate extremely realistic fake videos, images and so forth and voice. I saw a fake Joe Rogan interview and it really sounded like Joe Rogan’s voice. I sent it to Joe and he was like, “Whoa, this is crazy.” So yeah, I think verification is going to be extremely fundamental in the future. That’s why we’re so focused on it.",
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"content": "Vertical takeoff and landing meaning no need for a runway. Just shoot up straight in the air.",
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"content": "Yeah.",
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"content": "How would you do that? I mean, they do that in some military aircraft, correct?",
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"content": "Yes. The trick is that you have to transition to level flight. And then, the thing that you would use for vertical takeoff and landing is not suitable for high-speed flight.",
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"content": "Hugely inefficient.",
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"content": "… pretty low density because cars are spaced out pretty far. And so, that, obviously, is not going to work. You’re going to have traffic guaranteed. But if you can go 3D on your transport system, then you can solve all traffic. And you can either go 3D up with a flying car, or you can go 3D down with tunnels. You can have as many tunnel levels as you want, and you can arbitrarily relieve any amount of traffic. You can go further down with tunnels than you can go up with buildings. You’re 10,000 feet down if you want. I wouldn’t recommend it, but…",
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"content": "What was that movie with — What’s his face? Bradley — Not Bradley Cooper, Christian? No. What the fuck is his name? Batman. Who is Batman?\nChristian Bale.\nChristian Bale, where they fought dragons. Him and Matthew McConaughey. He went down deep into the earth. How deep can you go?",
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"content": "I don’t think that was Batman.",
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"content": "That’s hilarious, too. May, the fourth, be with him.",
"role": "user"
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{
"content": "Yes, exactly.",
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"content": "It has to be.",
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"content": "Hopefully. I sure hope so.",
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"content": "It definitely seemed amazing at the time. Now it’s so absolutely normal, but this was like an impossible thing.\nSo cool.\nThis is so cool. And using Java, Elon had coded an interactive map, which, again, all super normal stuff today. But the ability to just draw a square and zoom in or zoom out – that was just unheard of technology.",
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"content": "To draw a square…",
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"content": "You remember that? It was like you draw a little red square on the Java map.",
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"content": "On the browser, that was unusual.",
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"content": "Whoa. So, like if you’re going sideways, it knows how to correct itself?",
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"content": "It generally won’t go sideways.",
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"content": "It won’t?",
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"content": "No.",
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"content": "Yes. We should…",
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"content": "Those are the two options.",
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"content": "But given that – I mean, one, that’s kind of as epic as one can think about things, literally. How did you make that concrete? How does that turn into SpaceX, Tesla, and PayPal?",
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"content": "Well, so I thought about these things kind of in the abstract. Not from the expectation that I would actually have careers in those arenas. But, I wanted to be involved in at least one of them. At first, I thought the best bet was going to be electric cars. So, the area that I was studying was advanced capacitors, essentially, capacitors that have an engine density exceeding that of batteries. Because they have a very high power density but a low energy density. Maybe you have a lecture to that effect, I don’t know.",
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