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"content": "Interesting. I’m not mad at that.",
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"content": "Some of the things for Roadster, the tri-motor, plaid powertrain, we’re going to have that in Model S. So that’s like part one of the ingredients that’s needed for Roadster, is the plaid powertrain, the more advanced battery pack. That kind of thing.",
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"content": "I wanted to ask you about this before I forgot. There’s a company that’s called Apex; it’s taking your Teslas, and they’re giving it a wider base and wider tires and a little bit more advanced suspension. How do you feel about that?",
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"content": "Sounds good to me, sure.",
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"content": "(… 37:23)?",
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"content": "For technical stuff, I have a very good memory for a human. You know, computers are much better at memory. Computers are really good at memory.",
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"content": "Why is music so important for you? Techno music in particular?",
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"content": "Well, it’s pretty fun. I think it’s – you know, you want to, I don’t know, feel maximum human. When people have like sort of a rave and good music it can be like maximum human. You want to really feel – like what really gets you to feel. I think that having fun with friends and crazy dancing is fun.",
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"content": "Well, they’re disturbing just at a zoo. You know, you have bonobos at the zoo.",
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"content": "They’re just constantly going…",
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"content": "Constantly fucking, yeah. That’s all they do. They just won’t stop. And they don’t care, gay, straight – whatever, let’s just fuck. What’s with these labels?",
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"content": "I haven’t seen bonobos at a zoo. It’s probably, like…",
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"content": "Oh wow, what a dope-looking plane. Well, as a person who’s very much into aerial travel as you are, that’s perfect.",
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"content": "It’s pretty great.",
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"content": "Yeah. Pretty great. Does it feel strange to have a child while this craziness is going? Does it feel like you’ve had children before? Is this any weirder?",
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"content": "Actually, I think it’s better being older and having a kid. I appreciate it more. Yeah, babies are awesome.",
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"content": "When I didn’t have any of my own, I would see other people’s kids, and I didn’t not like them, but I wasn’t drawn to them. But now, when I see little people’s kids, I’m like, Oh, I think of them as like these little love packages.",
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"content": "Yeah, little love bugs.",
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"content": "Yeah. It’s just you think of them differently when you see them come out and then grow and then eventually start talking to you, like your whole idea what a baby is, is very different.",
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"content": "Yeah.",
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"content": "Of many public (… 03:28). How do you explain taking this risk to shareholders?",
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"content": "I don’t know. I mean, frankly, I think there’s probably a lot of risks associated with Tesla. And if a low-risk situation is what an investor wants, I would recommend not investing in Tesla.",
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"content": "But many still invest in Tesla because they believe in speed.",
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"content": "Yeah.",
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"content": "Yeah, I choose the Australian girl from Siri. I like her voice.",
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"content": "Do you want it seductive?",
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"content": "It’s my favorite. I like Australian.",
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"content": "What flavor? Do what you want it to be angry. It could be anything.",
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"content": "Yeah, that’s good; that’s a good line. What was the design decision in that different philosophy of thinking, where – there are pros and cons. What we see with a wide ODD is Tesla drivers are able to explore more the limitations of the system, at least early on, and they understand, together with the instrument cluster display, they start to understand what are the capabilities, so that’s a benefit. The con is you’re letting drivers use it basically anywhere …",
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"content": "Anywhere that it can detect lanes with confidence.",
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"content": "Was there a philosophy, design decisions, that were challenging, that were being made there? Or from the very beginning, was that done on purpose, with intent?",
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"content": "Frankly, it’s pretty crazy letting people drive a two-ton death machine manually. That’s crazy, like, in the future will people be like, I can’t believe anyone was just allowed to drive one of these two-ton death machines, and they just drive wherever they wanted. Just like elevators, you could just move that elevator with that lever wherever you wanted, can stop it halfway between floors if you want. It’s pretty crazy, so, it’s going to seem like a mad thing in the future that people were driving cars.",
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"content": "But speaking of the Tesla Bot, I know you’ve talked about the importance of creating this bot for the future of AI. Tell me a little bit about where you’re at with this project and what we can expect in the next coming months.",
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"content": "Um well, with the Tesla autopilot and full self-driving, we’re effectively, I think, creating the most advanced practical AI for navigating the real world. And you can also think of Tesla as like the world’s biggest robot company or semi-sentient robot company. The car is kind of a robot on four wheels. And so then we could probably take that same technology and put it in a humanoid robot and have that robot be useful.\nAnd yeah, so essentially, to have the humanoid part, we need to develop some custom actuators and sensors, and then essentially use the Tesla full self-driving autopilot, or just, generally speaking, real-world navigation AI in the humanoid robot. I think this could be quite profound. I don’t know exactly when we will get this right, but we will get it right.",
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"content": "And you said also that it will solve some labor issues. What are some things that you envision this bot doing?",
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"content": "Well, it has the potential to be a generalized substitute for human labor over time. The economy, the foundation of the economy is labor, and capital equipment is essentially distilled labor. So I was talking to a friend of mine actually, to say, you know, just like what should we optimize for? And what he said was gross profit per employee, fully considered to get into the supply chain and that. The fundamental constraint is labor. There are not enough people.\nI can’t emphasize this enough; there are not enough people. And I think one of the biggest risks to civilization is the low birth rate and the rapidly declining birth rate. And yet so many people, including smart people, think that there are too many people in the world and think that the population is growing out of control. It’s completely the opposite. Please look at the numbers. If people don’t have more children, civilization is going to crumble. Mark my words.",
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"content": "Perhaps your love for techno music is the secret reason why you are building big projects in Berlin.",
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"content": "Honestly, that’s a significant factor.",
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"content": "Okay, Elon, last question. You celebrated your 30th birthday with a masked ball in Venice. For your 40th birthday, I was told you had a fight with a Samurai sword fighter. What is your plan for your 50th birthday next year?",
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"content": "Well, my 40th birthday was in Venice. It was technically a post-apocalyptic masked ball. Because you know after the apocalypse how much clothing do you really have. It’s probably going to be a little ragged, a little burnt, you know.",
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"content": "Yeah, it’s not a good move to piss people off when everybody can have a gun.\nYou’re off to just let that guy get in your lane.",
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"content": "Yeah. You know, we got a big test site in Central Texas near Waco.",
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"content": "Oh yeah? Beautiful.",
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"content": "Yes, Space X in McGregor. It’s about 15 minutes away from Waco.",
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"content": "And then the cost of materials, things like that? Or is that too much…?",
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"content": "Yeah. Exactly. A good example of thinking about things in the limit is if you take any product, a machine, or whatever, like take a rocket or whatever, and say, if you look at the raw materials in the rocket; so you’re gonna have like aluminum, steel, titanium, Inconel, specialty alloys, copper, and you say, what’s the weight of the constituent elements of each of these elements, and what is their raw material value. And that sets the asymptotic limit for how low the cost of the vehicle can be unless you change the materials.\nAnd then when you do that – I call it like, maybe the magic wand number or something like that – that would be like, if you had just a pile of these raw materials here and you could wave a magic wand and rearrange the atoms into the final shape, that would be the lowest possible cost that you could make this thing for unless you change the materials. And that is always, usually, almost always a very low number. So then, what’s actually causing things to be expensive is how you put the atoms into the desired shape.",
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"content": "Yeah, actually, if you don’t mind me taking a tiny tangent. I often talk to Jim Keller, who’s somebody that worked with you as a…",
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"content": "Oh, yeah. Jim did great work at Tesla.",
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"content": "I think we have time for one more question. Joel.\nYeah, I have an important one.\nOkay, very good. Yes, please.\nA few months ago, you teased Hyperloop, and we haven’t heard anything since. So, first of all, a few of us engineers were talking about it, and I think we have a few ideas if you need help. But, if you feel comfortable, maybe you could tell us a little bit more.",
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"content": "I was reading about the California high-speed rail, and it was quite depressing. Because California taxpayers are going to be on the hook to build the most expensive high-speed rail per mile in the world – and the slowest. Those are not the superlatives you want. And, it’s like, damn, we’re in California, we make super high-tech stuff. Why are we going to be spending – now the estimates are around $100 billion – for something that will take two hours to go from LA to San Francisco? I’m like, well, I can get on a plane and do that in 45 minutes. It doesn’t make much sense. And isn’t there some better way to do it than that?\nSo if you just say, what would you ideally want in a transportation system? You’d want something that relative to existing modes of transportation is faster – let’s say twice as fast – costs half as much per ticket, can’t crash, is immune to weather, and is… you know, can make the whole thing like self-powering with like solar panels or something like that. That would be pretty…",
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"content": "That would be great, yes.",
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"content": "…a good outcome. And so what would do that? And what’s the fastest way short of inventing teleportation that you could do something like that? And some of the elements of that solution are fairly obvious, and some of them are not so obvious. And then the details… the devil’s in the details of actually making something like that work. But I came to the conclusion that there is something like that that could work. And would be practical.",
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"content": "Is the process figuring out how much or how little has to be, how much these areas of the brain have to be juiced up?",
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"content": "Yeah. I mean, there’s still a lot of work to do. When I say we’ve got a shot at probably putting in a person within a year, that’s exactly what I mean. I think we have a chance of putting it into one and having them be healthy and restoring some functionality that they’ve lost.",
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"content": "The fear is that eventually, you’re going to have to cut the whole top of someone’s head off and put a new top with a whole bunch of wires if you want to get the real turbocharged version. The P100D of brain stimulation.",
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"content": "I mean, ultimately, if you want to go with full AI symbiosis, you’ll probably want to do something like that.",
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"content": "I believe it. Now, how do you program that?",
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"content": "We do have testing on like an ice lake in Sweden.",
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"content": "Oh really?",
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"content": "Yeah. And like Norway, and Canada, and a few other places.",
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"content": "And beyond the metals – because a lot of people spend time talking about the metals – actually, the cathode process itself is a big target. 35% of the cathode $/kWh is just in transferring it into its final form. And so we see that as a big target. And we decided to take that on.\nHere’s a view of the traditional cathode process. Effectively, if you start at the left and you have the metal from the mine, the first thing that happens is the metal from the mine is changed into an intermediate thing called a metal sulfate, because that just happened to be what chemists wanted a long time ago. And then when you’re making the cathode, you have to take this intermediate thing called the metal sulfate, add chemicals, add a whole bunch of water, a whole bunch of stuff happens in the middle, and at the end, you get that little bit of cathode and a whole bunch of wastewater and by-products.",
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"content": "It’s insanely complicated. If you look at the total, it’s a small world journey of, “I am a nickel atom, what happens to me?” And it is crazy. Like, you’re going around the world three times… there’s like the moral equivalent of digging the ditch, filling the ditch, and digging the ditch again. It’s total madness, basically.\nAnd these things just grew up; they’re just kind of like legacy things; it’s like how it was done before, and then they connected the dots but really didn’t think of the whole thing from a first principle standpoint saying, “How do we get from the nickel ore in the ground to the finished nickel product for a battery?” So we’ve looked at the entire value chain and said, “How can we make this as simple as possible?”",
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"content": "And that’s what we’re proposing here with our process. As you can see, a whole lot less is going on here. We get rid of the intermediate. Metal, water, final product cathode, recirculate the water, no wastewater at all. And when you summarize all of that, it’s a 66% reduction in capex investment, a 76% reduction in process costs, and zero wastewater. Much more scalable solution.\nAnd then when you think about the fact that now we’re actually just directly consuming the raw metal nickel powder, it dramatically simplifies the metal refining part of the whole process. So we can eliminate billions in battery grade nickel intermediate production. It’s not needed at all. And we can also use that same process we showed on the previous page to directly consume the metal powder coming out of recycled electric vehicles and grid storage batteries. So this process enables both simpler mining and simpler recycling.\nAnd now that we have this process, obviously we’re going to go and start building our own cathode facility in North America and leveraging all of the North American resources that exist for nickel and lithium. And just doing that, just localizing our cathode supply chain and production, we can reduce miles traveled by all the materials that end up in the cathode by 80%, which is huge for cost.",
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"content": "Yeah. To be clear, cathode production would be part of the Tesla cell production plant. So it would just be basically raw materials coming from the mine, and from raw materials in the mine outcomes a battery.",
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"content": "Probably 10%, right? It’s hard.",
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"content": "It’s mostly — I think, it’s on balance more good than bad, but there’s definitely some bad. So, hopefully, the good outweighs the bad.",
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"content": "Do you ever think about how odd it is, the weird feeling that you get when someone says something shitty to you on Twitter, and you read it? That weird feeling. This weird little negative jolt. It’s like a subjective negative jolt of energy that you don’t really need to absorb, but you do anyway. Like, „I want to fuck this guy. Fuck him.“",
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"content": "I mean, there’s a lot of negativity on Twitter.",
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"content": "That’s interesting for other people.",
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"content": "Yes.",
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"content": "Do you think that that is maybe the way you recognize that you have this unusual position in the culture where you can uniquely influence certain things because of this? I mean, you essentially have a gift, right.I mean, you would think it was a curse, but I’m sure it’s been fueled by many, many years of discipline and learning. But you, essentially, have a gift, and that you have this radical sort of creativity engine when it comes to innovation and technology. It’s like you’re just you’re going at very high RPMs.",
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"content": "All the time. That doesn’t stop.",
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"content": "When you were little?",
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"content": "Yeah. They put people away. What if they put me away?",
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"content": "Like when you were little, you thought this?",
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"content": "Yes.",
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"content": "Whoa. Now, when you say civilization’s fragile, do you mean because of this COVID-19 shit that’s going on right now?",
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"content": "What’s that? I never heard of it.",
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"content": "It’s this thing, it’s like some people just get a cough.",
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"content": "I have no idea what you’re talking about.",
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"content": "That’s a great way to put it. And what about on the mineral extraction side? So, this is a cartoon that sort of gives you a sense for all the ore and the extracted minerals that are coming out of the earth every year.\nIt’s about 68 giga tons. So, each truck has a giga ton. What does this look like when we’re in a sustainable energy economy? Looks like that. Fossil fuel extraction disappears, we replace it with the materials required to fulfill the sustainable energy economy. It actually reduces. Now, it’s not to say that we don’t need to continue to bring out, mining, and refining specific materials for the sustainable energy economy. We do. But the investment and mass flows are all very achievable, just looking at what is already happening on the planet. This is nothing out of scale of what has been done and is already being done. And then, we calculate it on a element by element basis.\nThe resources are there to support the transition. This is cumulative demand to move in a sustainable energy economy direction until 2050, relative to USGS resources today. We’re not breaking the resource bank for any of these materials.\nAnd then, when we look at what really happens as we move forward, history teaches the more we look, the more we find. What people think happens is: “Oh, there’s this many resources? Next year, there’s going to be less because we’re going to extract them.” What actually happens is, as we extract resources, we find more.\nAnd you can see on the right what has actually occurred with the key materials to the sustainable energy economy. Since 2000, as the sustainable energy economy has been growing, and Tesla has been growing, and all the industries around us have been growing, the actual resource availability has increased, not decreased.",
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"content": "There seems to be quite a bit of confusion about lithium. Lithium is extremely common, is one of the most common elements on Earth. There is no country that has monopoly on lithium or even close to it. There’s enough lithium ore in the United States to electrify all of Earth. If the United States was the only place producing lithium, there’s enough domestic material to electrify Earth. It’s very common. The limiting factor is the refining of the lithium into battery-grade lithium hydroxide or lithium carbonate. That’s the actual limiting factor.",
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"content": "And the same is true for these other materials. And again, these are not like crazy technologies. It’s just the investments need to be made. And the investments, they’re not gigantic. They just need to happen.",
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"content": "Right. Nickel is maybe of them all the trickiest one to solve. But as we showed with the graph there, maybe you need like 30% of the world’s known nickel reserves.",
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"content": "Grab that, sucker. Give me some of that. This is too freaky. See, if I was just talking…",
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"content": "I’ve been thinking about this for a long time, by the way.",
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"content": "I believe you. If I was talking to one…- Cheers, by the way.",
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"content": "Cheers. It’s a great whiskey.",
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"content": "We’re glad as a robot that you love humans because we love you too, and we don’t want you to kill us and eat us. And-",
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"content": "I mean, you know, strangely, I think a lot of people don’t like humanity and see it as a blight, but I do not.",
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"content": "Well, I think one of those — I think, part of that is just they’ve been — you know, they’ve been struggling. When people struggle, they associate their struggle with other people. They never internalize their problems. They look to other people as holding them back, and people suck, and fuck people, and it’s just — You know, it’s a never-ending cycle. But not always. Again, most people are really good. Most people, the vast majority.",
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"content": "This may sound corny.",
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"content": "No doubt in your mind?",
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"content": "Zero.",
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"content": "How come? Because creating demand is always a huge question on an entrepreneur’s mind, but you seem totally confident that it will work.",
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"content": "Absolutely. If you have a compelling product, and it is affordable, so the value for money is good – you know, people can have enough money to buy it – and the product itself is compelling, then demand is never going to be an issue. So that is not something I worry about. I do worry about making sure that we can achieve affordability thresholds.\nBecause even if you make the value for money infinite, if people did not have enough money to buy it, they still can’t. Then it’s just frustrating for people. They see this great product, too expensive, can’t buy it. So, making the car affordable is – while continuing to improve the capabilities and quality of the product – that is the hardest problem.",
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"content": "Make it more efficient in terms of, like, the distance it can travel? You’re going to be fueling-",
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"content": "Yeah, you’re going to be able to go far enough, recharge fast.",
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"content": "And your Roadster, you’re anticipating 600 miles. Is that correct?",
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"content": "Yeah, 600 miles.",
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"content": "Well, what’s the worst part about you?",
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"content": "I never thought people would like it that much.",
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"content": "Well, most people wouldn’t, but they can’t be you. So, that’s like some superhero type shit. You know, we wouldn’t want to be Spiderman. I’d rather just sleep tight in Gotham City and hope he’s out there doing his job.",
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"content": "It’s very hard to turn it off.",
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"content": "Greatest podcast ever.",
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"content": "Yeah, I think it is actually.",
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"content": "It almost doesn’t really count as a podcast.",
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"content": "It’s more like an audiobook.",
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"content": "So you’d have an opinion on whether it should be banned or not?",
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"content": "I’m generally against banning things, so I’d probably not be in favor. I mean, it would help Twitter, I suppose, if TikTok was banned, because then people would spend more time on Twitter and less time on TikTok. But even if it would help Twitter, I would be generally against banning of things.",
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"content": "Okay. Do you feel sometimes that your many business interests might get in the way of you having an opinion? I mean, for example, Tesla has major connections in China. You wouldn’t have a certain opinion on something or feel uncomfortable about saying something because of your other business interests elsewhere?",
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"content": "Do I look uncomfortable? Actually, I do. I look uncomfortable. Yeah. I mean, Tesla’s got activities around the world and so does SpaceX. Once in a while those things do come into conflict, but it’s not like Twitter operates in China. It doesn’t. Twitter is banned in China. So certainly, I’ve received no communication whatsoever from the Chinese government with regard to Twitter.",
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"content": "Wow. So significant?",
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"content": "Yeah, like a quarter. But there’s an even better step beyond that, which is to make rockets reusable. Right now, that is around what our comparison price is… excluding the refurbished ICBMs. So, if you say building a rocket from new, how does the SpaceX rocket compare to a rocket from Boeing or Lockheed? It’s about a quarter of the price. However, if we make it reusable, then it can be two orders of magnitude cheaper.",
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"content": "Two orders of magnitude cheaper. A 100th of the price?",
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"content": "That’s right. For you.",
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"content": "„It’s just what it does.“",
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"content": "Okay.",
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"content": "I go, „Hold on.“ I go, „So, you’re telling me that it just is always going to be fast?“ They’re like, „Yeah. It’s just like every few months; you get like reset it.“",
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"content": "It seems like they should recalibrate that thing.",
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"content": "How does this… – I don’t want to get too much into it, but I’m curious about this one particular thing. You decided at some point you need to buy an ICBM?",
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"content": "Yeah. Well, actually, at first, I tried to buy just a normal launch vehicle that they use to launch satellites, but those are too expensive.",
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"content": "I see. I see.",
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"content": "The Boeing Delta II would have cost $65 million each, so two would have been $130 million. And then I was like, woah, okay, that breaks my budget right there. I tried to negotiate with them. And that was not… I did not make progress.",
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"content": "Yeah, I totally agree. And it – also apart from its electrical properties – it also helps with adhesion between the metal layers and the polymer substrate. Another thing that we are also looking at is since we are actually reducing the electrode dimensions, the electrode side, the axial side that actually speaks to the neuron, also have what we call high resistance to the signal. So, we actually looked into material engineering that will reduce the impedance at our interface so that we can actually have a very small electricity but still be able to speak clearly to the neuron.\nAnd when you guys say thin, how thin?\nHow thin? One strand of your hair is about 100 microns in diameter. We can think about dividing that into 20. So you know, one of the thickness that we recognize about five microns, and we have this facility to go even thinner in the nearest future.",
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"content": "Yeah, we think we can probably go sub-micron in thickness. But obviously, the thinner you make the wire, the harder it is to sense the signal and to do stimulation because there’s less cross-sectional area for the current to traverse. And, yeah, in terms of upgrades, that’s part of why I wanted to show the explanted pig is to show that you can actually take the device out. And there’s no observable behavior change. The pig is as happy as before, and healthy.\nAnd I think this is going to be important for upgrades. Because obviously, if you get an early device, then by the time – let’s say you get version 1 – probably by the time we have version 3 or 4, you want to upgrade. You wouldn’t want version 1 of a phone, and ten years later, everyone’s got version 3 or 4. So it’s going to be important to be able to remove the device and upgrade it over time. So over time, the Neuralink would do even more than it did before.",
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"content": "Awesome. So here’s a question about the device. We have been talking a lot about read speeds and write, but we haven’t talked about read and write speeds. DJ, what are the read and write speeds of the device? If you think of it like a computer?\nSorry, when you say speed, what do you mean?\nLike how quickly can you read information from the brain? And how quickly can you write information in the brain?\nOkay, so let’s see. So one of the things to highlight is that we…",
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"content": "DJ, what do you work on?",
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"content": "When you sell.",
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"content": "Yes, and I have a bunch of options that are expiring early next year. A huge block of options will sell in Q4 because I have to; they’ll expire. And my top marginal tax rate is 53%.",
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"content": "So you will eventually pay a lot of taxes.",
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"content": "Massive, yeah, I mean, basically majority of what I sell will be tax.",
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"content": "It’s something I enjoy about it. Something about the freedom of expression that comes from all these people that do attack you. It’s like, if there was no vulnerability whatsoever, they wouldn’t attack you. And it’s like there’s something about these millions and millions of perspectives that you have to appreciate, even if it comes your way, even if the shit storm hits you in the face.\nYou got to appreciate, “Wow. How amazing is it that all these people do have the ability to express themselves?” I mean, you don’t necessarily want to be there when the shit hits you. You might want to get out of the way in anticipation of the shit storm, but the fact that so many people have the ability to reach out… – And I think it’s in a lot of ways a – I don’t want to say a misused resource – but it’s like giving monkeys guns.\nThey just start, “Da, da, da.” They start gunning down things that are in front of them without any realization of what they’re doing. They have a rock, they see a window, they throw it. “Whoo, look at that. I got Elon mad. Look at that. This guy got mad at me. I fucking took this person down on Twitter. I got this lady fired. Oh, the fucking business is going under because of Twitter Wars.” It seems like there’s something about it that’s this newfound thing that, I don’t want to say abuse, but just, I want to say that it’s almost like you hit the button and things blow up. You’re like, “Wow, what else can we blow up?”",
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"content": "Sure. I mean, I’ve been in the Twitter war zone for a while here, so…",
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"content": "Twitter war zone.",
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"content": "It takes a lot to faze me at this point.",
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"content": "You know, what defines where you are?",
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"content": "Exactly.",
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"content": "Right.",
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"content": "It’s your perception.",
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"content": "I’m done with this interview. It sounds like you don’t want to take any questions from your legions of fans.",
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"content": "I was looking for questions. You got any questions?",
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"content": "Here’s people that have a question.",
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"content": "Okay.",
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"content": "Yeah, probably.",
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"content": "Yes.",
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"content": "That would help your product. I mean, it’s not like you don’t sell enough of them. You sell almost too many of them, right.",
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"content": "I mean, I think a Tesla is the most fun thing you could possibly buy ever. That’s what it’s meant to be. Our goal is to make — It’s not exactly a car. It’s actually a thing to maximize enjoyment, make as maximum fun.",
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"content": "And this is across mining, refining, battery factories, recycling, vehicle factories, all the things that we’re going to talk about needing to invest in to build this sustainable energy economy.",
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"content": "Now, if you look at the total world economy, it’s just under 100 trillion. If this was spread out, say over ten years, it would be 1% of the global economy. Over 20 years, it would be half a percent of global economy. This is not a big number relative to the global economy. As Drew mentioned, you need about half as much energy with an electric economy versus a combustion economy.\nAnd in terms of wind and solar, how much land would be used? It’s less than 0.2% of the land area of Earth. Generally, people don’t realize quite how much energy is reaching us from the sun. It’s roughly a gigawatt per square kilometer. And, you know, the sun doesn’t shine all the time. But if you multiply that by, say, four to get the continuous power, four or five, then that gives you the land area of solar. And you can put wind and solar often in the same place. So in places that currently have wind, you can have solar there, and you double your energy.",
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"content": "You can also put wind offshore. It doesn’t even need to be on land. So wind is even more flexible.",
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"content": "You could put solar offshore, too. Earth is 70% water. Anyway, the point is that with a pretty, really a remarkably small amount of Earth’s land area, we can go fully sustainable.",
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"content": "And now for something completely different. Do you mind doing a bit of a meme review in the spirit of the great, the powerful PewDiePie? Let’s say, one to eleven, just go over a few documents printed out?",
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"content": "We can try.",
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"content": "Let’s try this. I present to you document numero uno.",
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"content": "(laughing)\nOkay.",
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"content": "So, what was the choice?",
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"content": "I split it.",
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"content": "So, at that closest moment of a failure, what did you say to yourself? Can I survive this?",
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"content": "No, I…",
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"content": "And I also want to come back to this later; I know that you do have some other stance on sort of AI and what the rules and regulations we should have on that. But right now, you’re sitting in a Tesla factory. Where/how are you spending your time these days between the split between SpaceX and Tesla?",
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"content": "It’s about even between SpaceX and Tesla. It depends on, you know, what is the kind of crisis of the moment. So some weeks will be more Tesla, more SpaceX. But I work a lot; I work seven days a week and put in some pretty crazy hours. But it really depends on where I’m needed most. Like, basically just, I triage the tasks and try to do the things that are most useful or where I’m most needed. It varies from one week to the next.\nBut just going back to that infrastructure bill for a second, because some of the criticism of Tesla is like, hey, Tesla gets all these subsidies. But it’s worth noting that for the vehicle purchase tax credit – the $7,500 – Tesla stopped getting that like two years ago, whereas everyone else, I think, except for GM, still gets the $7,500 tax credit. So all of our sales this year, and last year, had nothing to do with the tax credit because we’re no longer eligible because we’ve made so many electric cars.\nTesla has made roughly two-thirds of all the electric cars in the United States. I’m not sure if most people are aware of that. So Tesla has made basically twice as many electric vehicles as the rest of the industry combined. And we don’t need the $7,500 tax credit. I would say, honestly, I would just can this whole bill. Don’t pass it. That’s my recommendation.",
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"content": "What about the support though for the charging network? There are part of this bill…",
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"content": "Not necessary.",
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"content": "That’s a weird one, right? We’re terrified of this disease that was projected it could potentially kill 100,000 if not 200,000 Americans this year. But cigarettes kill 500,000, and you don’t hear a peep out of any politician. There’s no one running for Congress that’s trying to ban cigarettes. There’s no one running for Senate that wants to put some education plan in place, that’s going to stop cigarettes in their tracks.",
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"content": "Yeah. I mean, several years ago, or maybe longer, ten years ago, I helped make a movie called\nThank You for Smoking\n.",
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"content": "Oh, I saw that.",
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"content": "Yeah. It’s crazy. Barbecuing your lungs is just bad news. It’s not good. Turning your lungs into smoked beef, not great. So yeah. Tylenol, by the way, also kills a lot of people.",
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"content": "And, well, I mean, similar thing. How did you start? What gave you the confidence? And do you see yourselves as kind of a major automotive, mainstream brand in five, ten years, all the way down to competing with the Honda Accords and Civics?",
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"content": "I mean, yeah. Our goal, it’s not to become a big brand or to compete with Honda Civics, rather to advance the cause of electric vehicles. We’re just going to keep making more and more electric cars and driving the price point down until the industry is very firmly electric. Like maybe half of all cars made are electric or something like that, which is not to say that we expect to make half of all cars. We want to just have that catalytic effect until at least that occurs. The point at which we’re approaching half of all new cars made are electric, then I think I would consider that to be the victory condition. The faster we can bring that day, the better.",
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"content": "When would be your guess when that happens?",
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"content": "Well, I made a bet with someone about three years ago that it would be sooner than 20 years. So it’s 17 years from now. But that’s conservative. I think it’s probably maybe 13 or 14 years.",
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"content": "This is not an interview about the BBC.",
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"content": "Oh, you thought it wasn’t?",
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"content": "I see now why you’ve done Twitter Spaces. I am not a representative of the BBC’s editorial policy. I want to make that clear. Let’s talk about something else-",
"role": "user"
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"content": "I’m interviewing you too.",
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"content": "Tell that friend to go fuck himself. Who told you not to swear?",
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"content": "A friend.",
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"content": "He’s not a good friend.",
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"content": "I said I wouldn’t swear.",
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"content": "So, we’re fucked?",
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"content": "No, we’re not fucked. I mean, this is quite a complex question. The more carbon we take out of the ground and add to the atmosphere, and a lot of it gets permeated into the oceans, the more dangerous it is. Like I don’t think right — I think we’re okay right now. We can probably even add some more, but the momentum towards sustainable energy is too slow.\nLike there’s a vast base of industry, vast transportation system. Like there’s two and a half billion cars and trucks in the world. And the new car and truck production, if it was a 100% electric, that’s only about 100 million per year. So, it would take — If you could snap your fingers and instantly turn all cars and trucks electric, it would still take 25 years to change the transport base to electric. It makes sense because how long does a car and truck last before it goes into the junkyard and gets crushed? About 20 to 25 years.",
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"content": "Is there a way to accelerate that process, like some sort of subsidies or some encouragement from the government financially?",
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"content": "Well, the thing that is going on right now is that there is an inherent subsidy in any oil-burning device. Any power plant or car is fundamentally consuming the carbon capacity of the oceans and atmosphere, or just say atmosphere for short. So, like, you can say, okay, there’s a certain probability of something bad happening past a certain carbon concentration in the atmosphere.\nAnd so, there’s some uncertain number where if we put too much carbon into the atmosphere, things overheat, oceans warm up, ice caps melt, ocean real estate becomes a lot less valuable, you know, if something’s underwater, but it’s not clear what that number is. But, definitely, scientists, it’s really quite — The scientific consensus is overwhelming. Overwhelming.\nI mean, I don’t know any serious scientist, actually zero, literally zero who don’t think, you know, that we have quite a serious climate risk that we’re facing. And so, there’s fundamentally a subsidy occurring with every fossil fuel burning thing, power plants, aircraft, car, frankly even rockets. I mean, rockets use up — you know, they burn. They burn fuel. But there’s just — you know, with rockets, there’s just no other way to get to orbit, unfortunately. So, it’s the only way.\nBut with cars, there’s definitely a better way with electric cars. And to generate the energy, do so with photovoltaics because we’ve got a giant nuclear reactor in the sky called the sun. It’s great. It sort of shows up every day, very reliable. So, if you can generate energy from solar panels stored up with batteries, you can have energy 24 hours a day.\nAnd then, you know, you can send to the poles or near to the north with, you know, high voltage lines. Most of the northern parts of the world tend to have a lot of hydropower as well. But, anyway, all fossil fuel-powered things have an inherent subsidy, which is their consumption of the carbon capacity of the atmosphere and oceans.\nSo, people tend to think like why should electric vehicles have a subsidy, but they’re not taking into account that all fossil fuel-burning vehicles fundamentally are subsidized by the cost, the environmental cost to Earth, but nobody’s paying for it. We are going to pay for it, obviously. In the future, we’ll pay for it. It’s just not paid for now.",
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"content": "Right, right, when it’s over.",
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"content": "Yeah. I mean, most of our launches are commercial, to be clear.",
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"content": "Yes, I understand that. You’re doing a lot of government work. What is that like working with the government. Is this important to your business?",
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"content": "Yeah. I mean, it’s an important part of business. Bear in mind, if you’re in any industry, like, let’s say you’re a pencil manufacturer, okay. About 40% of your pencils are going to go to the government. The government’s about 40% of the economy. You know, if you’re a shoe manufacturer, you bet 40% of your business is going to be with the government. So, you know, it’s to be expected that most companies are gonna have a percentage of business with the government, state, federal and local, that is proportionate to the GDP of the government.",
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"content": "… because we try and get bots. Because we try and take down bots, effective at bots. Where there’s actually less misinformation on the platform.",
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"content": "No, I think that’s a big factor.",
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"content": "I’d like to ask you one more question on that. Because a lot of people I think will be listening to this and thinking really, you are arguing you can police content moderation far less and end up with less misinformation. How can you prove that?",
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"content": "First of all, we do have people content moderation. It’s not like we don’t.",
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"content": "But it’s beautiful-",
"role": "user"
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"content": "Photons in, controls out.",
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"content": "are able to understand that deep meaning in the world. And so, the question is, how far can it go? And it does seem everybody’s excited about LLMs. In the space of self supervised learning in the space of text, it seems like there’s a deep similarity between that and what Tesla autopilot is doing. Is it, to you, basically the same, but different-",
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"content": "They are converging.",
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"content": "Well, they’re disturbing just at a zoo. You know, you have bonobos at the zoo.",
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"content": "They’re just constantly going…",
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"content": "Constantly fucking, yeah. That’s all they do. They just won’t stop. And they don’t care, gay, straight – whatever, let’s just fuck. What’s with these labels?",
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"content": "I haven’t seen bonobos at a zoo. It’s probably, like…",
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"content": "Welcome to the Third Row Tesla podcast. My name is Sofiaan Fraval and today, we have a very special guest. But before I introduce our special guest, I’m going to go through and introduce our crew, so, our regular Third Row Tesla podcast crew. Today we have Omar Qazi ‘Tesla Truth’, and we have Kristen ‘K10’,and we got Vincent Yu from ‘Tasmanian’. And then we got Galileo Russell from ‘HyperChange’, and then we got Viv, who’s ‘Falcon Heavy’. Alright. Omar, do you want to introduce our guest?\nPlease welcome the inventor of the car fart, Elon Musk.",
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"content": "Thank you. Please put that on my gravestone.",
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"content": "So yeah, it’s kind of crazy that we’re actually all here. And thank you so much for doing this. We’re all Tesla customers, fans, and it’s really good that it’s finally happening. I remember that I was looking at your Wikipedia tweet. And there’s like this bizarre, fictionalized version of reality. And I replied, like, why don’t you come on a podcast and tell your fictionalized version of reality?",
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"content": "Sure,\nI will tell my fictionalized reality.",
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"content": "Have you heard about clean coal? The president’s been tweeting about it. It’s got to be real. CLEAN COAL, all caps. Did you see it? He used all caps. Clean coal.",
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"content": "Well, you know, it’s very difficult to put that CO2 back in the ground. It doesn’t like being in solid form.",
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"content": "Have you thought about something like that?",
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"content": "It takes a lot of energy.",
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"content": "And you’re just meditating, om.",
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"content": "Yeah.",
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"content": "While your car is just traveling.",
"role": "user"
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"content": "It’s kind of eerie. It’s kind of eerie.",
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"content": "Grab that, sucker. Give me some of that. This is too freaky. See, if I was just talking…",
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"content": "I’ve been thinking about this for a long time, by the way.",
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"content": "I believe you. If I was talking to one…- Cheers, by the way.",
"role": "user"
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"content": "Cheers. It’s a great whiskey.",
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"content": "Okay. Okay. Since you became CEO, there’s been another story in town.",
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"content": "I’m not CEO anymore.",
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"content": "Okay. You’re chief twit, or what are you?",
"role": "user"
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"content": "No, my dog, Floki, is the CEO.",
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"content": "Technique.",
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"content": "Yeah. He was winning against people way bigger and that kind of thing. And it was just like, “Whoa, this is cool.”",
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"content": "It was what martial arts were supposed to be when we were kids. When you saw Bruce Lee fuck-up all these big giant guys. Like, “Wow, martial arts allow you to beat someone far bigger and stronger than you.” Most of the time, that’s not real.",
"role": "user"
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"content": "Especially if they know martial arts too. It’s like, “Oh no.”",
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"content": "Have they surprised you in a way of their innovative thinking?",
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"content": "Yeah, it seems to be going pretty well. I mean, the kids really love going to school. I think that’s a good sign. You know, I mean, I hated going to school when I was a kid; it was torture. So the fact that they actually think vacations are too long as they want to go back to school… Yeah, exactly.",
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"content": "Well, there are so many young people, the millennial generation, who want to start up their own company with the, you know, the accessibility of the internet and such a big market here in China. What’s your advice for them? Because sometimes, they will easily go to the daydreaming part or the wishful thinking part. What’s the balance between imagination and, you know, pragmatism, basically?",
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"content": "I do think that in terms of creating a company, what Edison said, which was like, ‘it’s 1% inspiration, 99% perspiration’, is true. So, a lot of it in creating a company is execution. You start off with an idea, and that idea is mostly wrong. And then you adapt that idea and keep refining it. And you listen to criticism. Some criticism you discard – you try to discard the wrong criticism – try to listen to the correct criticism, and then engage in sort of recursive self-improvement, in constantly refining it and making it better.\nAnd you have to work super hard – that’s very important. And then just keep iterating on a loop, which says, am I doing something useful for other people? Because that’s what a company is supposed to do. You know, a company is just a group of people gathered together to produce a product or service. And a company should only exist if that product or service is truly useful to customers.\n(29:03 – 29:15)\nA documentary sequence about Elon Musk in Chinese, translation not available",
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"content": "Ah, okay. Right here.\nHi Elon, Alex Heath with ‘The Verge’. The question’s on the self-driving data. You guys are rolling out. Curious why you’re encouraging people to not share videos, making them sign NDAs, just because…",
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"content": "There’s a lot of videos being shared.",
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"content": "But the NDAs for the full self-driving data.",
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"content": "I don’t know. People don’t seem to listen to me. Not sure there’s… I don’t know why there’s an NDA, we probably don’t need it. People just are ignoring it anyway so I’m not sure it matters.",
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"content": "So, as you know, taking a step beyond just Tesla and Autopilot, current deep learning approaches still seem, in some ways, to be far from general intelligence systems. Do you think the current approaches will take us to general intelligence, or do totally new ideas need to be invented?",
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"content": "I think we’re missing a few key ideas for artificial general intelligence. But it’s going to be upon us very quickly, and then we’ll need to figure out what shall we do if we even have that choice. It’s amazing how people can’t differentiate between, say, the narrow AI that allows a car to figure out what a lane line is and navigate streets versus general intelligence. Like these are just very different things. Like your toaster and your computer are both machines, but one’s much more sophisticated than another.",
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"content": "You’re confident with Tesla you can create the world’s best toaster …",
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"content": "The world’s best toaster, yes. The world’s best self-driving… yes, to me right now, this seems game, set, and match. I mean, I don’t want us to be complacent or over-confident, but that’s what it, that is just literally how it appears right now, I could be wrong, but it appears to be the case that Tesla is vastly ahead of everyone.",
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"content": "Or we’re on our way to one, right? Well, not just because we exist. We could most certainly be on the road. We could be on the road to that, right. It doesn’t mean that it has to have already happened.",
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"content": "We could be in ‘Base Reality’.",
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"content": "We could be here now on our way to the road or on our way to the destination where this can never happen again; where we are completely ingrained in some sort of an artificial technology or some sort of a symbiotic relationship with the internet or the next level of sharing information. But, right now, we’re not there yet. That’s possible too, right? It’s possible that a simulation is, one day, going to be inevitable, that we’re going to have something that’s indistinguishable from regular reality, but maybe we’re not there yet. That’s also possible.",
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"content": "Yes, it is.",
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"content": "Absolutely, that’s what I was hoping I would see when we took apart the Y. But again, you say it’s hard to change the tires when you’re going 80 miles an hour. I guess the last thing is probably the most controversial. You made comments, which I’ve been saying for years at Munro. If you want to get your master’s, I’ll pay for it. If you want to take a course in mechanics or something, I’ll pay for it, even if you want to take a wood carving thing, I’ll pay for it. But I will not pay for an MBA. I won’t do it ever.\nYou made a comment, and I started tap dancing because people listen to you – I don’t get the same kind of respect – but people listen to you, and I really, really was excited when you talked about that. If you can elaborate on that a little bit, that would be great.",
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"content": "I think just generally the path to leadership should not be through, basically, MBA business school situation. It should be kind of work your way up, do useful things. There’s a bit too much of the somebody goes to a high-profile MBA school and then kind of parachutes in as the leader, but they don’t actually know how things work. They can be good at, say, PowerPoint presentations or something like that, and they can present well, but they don’t actually know how things work because they’d parachute in instead of working their way up.",
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"content": "They never went through an apprenticeship. That’s maybe a better word.",
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"content": "They’re just not aware of what’s really needed to make great products. I don’t want to trash MBAs too much here, and I actually do have a dual undergrad, a Wharton undergrad in physics at UPENN. It’s like I have direct exposure to business school and went to do undergrad business school with physics, and I was a teaching assistant for two semesters, and I graded MBAs and undergrads. I think it’s just a little bit too much people look at MBA school as “I want to parachute into being the boss” instead of earning it. I don’t think that’s good.",
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"content": "We explained to them what a website was. The internet was the kind of this cool thing, people were using Netscape browser. And I think by the end of it, we got 18,000 businesses to be on our service – paying to be, like, with websites and everything. You know, a lot of the things that you can do today, like automatically build websites, we built a lot of those sort of tools to make it easier to build websites. And we had to sell door-to-doorbecause that was the only way.\nDid you hire people, or is it just you guys going door-to-door?\nNo, no, we had a team by that time because we could hire a team. But I remember talking to a Yellow Pages guy once, and it was amazing. He was the head of the Toronto Star that… they owned all the Yellow Pages…",
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"content": "“The Yellow Pages will never die.” Famous last words.",
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"content": "Literally. Because we went to talk to him to partner. We said, “We want to partner with you.” And “Let’s just be one of your partners to put the Yellow Pages online.” And he picked up the Yellow Pages, this book, this big, thick book, that’s full of ads, this multi-billion dollar revenue stream.",
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"content": "I mean, these guys were so arrogant and so like, ‘we are kings of the world’, and ‘you will never’ and…",
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"content": "Is your storm a happy storm?",
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"content": "No.",
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"content": "It’s not a happy storm?",
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"content": "No.",
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"content": "Looking back for the last thousands of years, what is the most important invention of mankind so far?",
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"content": "In the past thousand years, I guess –",
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"content": "Millions.",
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"content": "Oh, millions. I think language, being able to talk and express concepts, this is probably the biggest, invention of humanity’s language.",
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"content": "How’s it doing?",
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"content": "Good. How’s it going?",
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"content": "All good. I’m flying to US tomorrow. I just have a couple of questions for you. One is like I will be asked why you are here in US. So what should I tell them? I’m here to visit Twitter headquarters or just Titter headquarters?",
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"content": "Yeah. Well, yeah, I would recommend adding the W for the SRTs.",
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"content": "Do you think that the current way we’re handling this, the social distancing, the mask, the locking down, does this make sense? Is it adequate? Or do you think that we should move back to at least closer to where we used to be?",
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"content": "Well, I think proper hygiene is a good thing no matter what.",
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"content": "Yes.",
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"content": "Wash your hands and if you’re coughing, stay at home or wear a mask because it’s not good. They do that in Japan. That’s normal. If you’re ill, you wear a face mask, and you don’t cough on people. I think that would be a great thing to adopt in general throughout the world. Washing your hands is also good.",
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"content": "How do you manage to dive so deeply into so many different engineering challenges?",
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"content": "Well, I studied physics, and I certainly strongly recommend physics as a good grounding to understand the nature of reality. Physics is fundamentally just understanding how does the universe actually work. And then that’s a good foundation for a variety of engineering disciplines. And I think, also, the analytical principles, the sort of analytical constructs used in physics, apply to basically anything.\nIt’s, you know, physics developed all these ways of thinking, like, first principles thinking, thinking about things in the limit of high and low. You’re testing your hypothesis – the scientific principle, essentially. These things are incredibly helpful in all arenas. It’s just, most people tend to think by analogy or by comparison with something that already exists. And this is a sort of mental shortcut that requires less brain strain, but it does not… – It’s hard to get fundamental insights unless you think about things from a first principle standpoint.",
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"content": "And the first principle standpoint is kind of deductive thinking that almost has like, the force of natural law, of a physical law, of making things happen because they need to happen?",
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"content": "No, I mean, first principles thinking is just saying, ‘Okay, what are the most fundamental truths that we know about any given situation?’ Like the things that at a very granular level, the sort of simplest building blocks that we’re most convinced are true. And then you reason up from those fundamental axioms. It’s just sort of…- cogent thinking would be another way to refer to it.\nSay, like, are these axioms believed to be the most believed to be true? Are they the most relevant? Do they necessarily lead to a conclusion? What is the probability associated with that conclusion? Reality is really probabilities. It’s not deterministic. It’s not ‘One or the other.’",
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"content": "It’s true, no matter how rich you are. But then you did the Biden tweet. Can you explain that one?",
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"content": "Well, you know, like Biden held this EV summit, didn’t invite Tesla, invited GM, Ford, Chrysler, and UAW, an EV summit in the White House, didn’t mention Tesla once and praised GM and Ford for leading the EV revolution.",
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"content": "So you were pissed.",
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"content": "Does this sound maybe a little biased or something? You know, just, it’s not the friendliest administration. Seems to be controlled by the unions as well (…).",
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"content": "Yeah, so they’ll just sit there and spin on that thing that’s just like, „Why do we even have this in the first place?“",
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"content": "Absolutely. When you go through college, and you’re studying physics or engineering – I studied physics – you have to answer the question that the professor gives you. You don’t get to say, „This is the wrong question.“ But, in reality, we have far more degrees. When you’re in reality, you have all the degrees of freedom of reality, and so the first thing you should say is, „This question is wrong.“",
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"content": "Yeah, and that’s what you said last year. I mean, you said like, „It took us a long time to frame the question even because we didn’t necessarily know what it was.“",
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"content": "It took ages to frame the question, I mean, it’s just like ‚\nThe Hitchhiker’s Guide to the Galaxy\n‚, Douglas Adams, best philosopher ever – maybe, I think, best book in philosophy ever, ‚Hitchhiker’s Guide to the Galaxy‘ – but his book is so deep, people don’t even understand.\nIn ‚The Hitchhiker’s Guide to the Galaxy‘, the Earth is a giant computer, and the Earth, it comes up with the answer ’42‘ to the question, „What’s life, the answer to life, the universe and everything?“ The answer’s 42, and they’re like, „What the hell – that doesn’t make any sense.“ „Oh, you… the hard part is the question. The answer is the easy part. You need a much more powerful computer to tell you what the question is.“ And this is true. At the point in which you can properly frame the question, the answer is comparatively easy.",
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"content": "I’ll grab it. Hold on. (\npasses Elon the sword\n) Yeah, that’s a legit samurai sword from an actual samurai from the 1500s. If you pull out that blade, that blade was made the old way where a master craftsman…",
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"content": "Folded metal?",
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"content": "…folded that metal and hammered it down over and over again over a long period of time, and honed that blade into what it is now. What’s crazy is that more than 500 years later, that thing is still pristine. I mean, whoever took care of that and passed it down to the next person who took care of it, and you know until it got to the podcast room, it’s pretty fucking crazy.",
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"content": "Yeah.",
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"content": "Have you heard about clean coal? The president’s been tweeting about it. It’s got to be real. CLEAN COAL, all caps. Did you see it? He used all caps. Clean coal.",
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"content": "Well, you know, it’s very difficult to put that CO2 back in the ground. It doesn’t like being in solid form.",
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"content": "Have you thought about something like that?",
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"content": "It takes a lot of energy.",
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"content": "This quarter, as soon as that?",
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"content": "Possibly, yeah.",
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"content": "Wow. And do you have a message for the… I mean, can you say which advertisers haven’t come back?",
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"content": "I think almost all of them have either come back or said they’re going to come back. There are very few exceptions.",
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"content": "I go, „Hold on.“ I go, „So, you’re telling me that it just is always going to be fast?“ They’re like, „Yeah. It’s just like every few months; you get like reset it.“",
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"content": "It seems like they should recalibrate that thing.",
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"content": "They can’t. They tried. They say, every few months, whether it’s four months, or five months, or six months, it’s going to be a couple of minutes fast.",
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"content": "Okay. It seems like they should really recalibrate that because if it’s always fast, you can just, you know, delete those minutes.",
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"content": "Should we do some of the say.com questions?Okay. Should we do the second one?",
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"content": "Yeah. The first one, I think we already answered. If we’re able to make enough cells, which we’ll try to do, we will supply other companies. It’s definitely not an intentional effort to keep the cells to ourselves. If we can make enough for other companies, we will supply them. And we were trying to do the right thing for advancing the sustainable energy, whatever that is.\nVehicle to grid\n– we get asked that a lot. I think one of the things that’s important to note is, vehicle to grid, unless you have a power cutoff, you need to cut off your main supply to the grid. Otherwise, if you lose the power in your house, you’ll basically just backflow energy to the grid. So just having a reversal in the power flow does not actually keep the lights on. You need a whole separate system to cut off power to the grid.\nAnd I think there’s also the case that people really want the freedom to be able to drive and to charge at their house. And it’s obviously very problematic if you get to morning and your car, instead of being charged, it discharged into the house, and then you’re sort of, “Okay, now I can either drive or use the battery to power my house.”\nI think it’s actually going to be better for people’s freedom of action to have a power wall and a car separate, and then everything works. You basically combine that with solar, either solar retrofit or\nsolar glass roof\n, and local battery storage, so you basically become your own utility. And then the car can be charged also with solar. I think that’s the stuff that works. That said, we can certainly do vehicle to grid; I think we can basically enable that with software in Europe or something, right?",
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"content": "Yeah. Future generations of power electronics, we will be able to do this more or less everywhere, from an energy market participation perspective. But from a backing up the house, it just so happens that the way the North American connectors are – on all the cars in North America, it doesn’t matter whether it’s the Tesla connector or the connector that the other vehicles have – doesn’t actually support powering your home. It’s unfortunate. So, you’d need an additional hardware to do that.\nBut yeah, in the future, all versions of our vehicles will be able to at least do bi-directional power flow for the purposes of energy market participation. But even for that, it’s important to remember that your car isn’t plugged in 24/7, so it’s kind of an unpredictable resource for the grid. It’ll have a value, but it’s not the same as a stationary battery pack.",
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"content": "Yeah. Honestly, a vehicle to grid sounds good, but I think it actually has a much lower utility than people think. I think very few people would actually use vehicle to grid. With the original roadster, we had vehicle-to-grid capabilities – nobody used it.\nA speaker in the audience:\n[inaudible]",
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"content": "Right.",
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"content": "And they’re way happier seeming than they really are. So, if you look at everyone on Instagram, you might think, “Man, there are all these happy, beautiful people, and I’m not that good looking, and I am not happy. So, I must suck,” you know. And that’s going to make you feel sad; when, in fact, those people you think are super happy, actually, not that happy. Some of them are really depressed. They’re very sad. Some of the happiest-seeming people are actually some of the saddest people in reality. And nobody looks good all the time. It doesn’t matter who you are.",
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"content": "No, it’s not even something you should want.",
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"content": "Yeah.",
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"content": "Yeah.",
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"content": "So, I think it’s really just about, how can we make it last longer.",
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"content": "Are you a proponent of the multi-universe theory? Do you believe that there are many, many universes, and that even if this one fades out that there are other ones that are starting fresh right now, and there’s an infinite number of them, and they’re just constantly in a never-ending cycle of birth and death?",
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"content": "I think most likely. This is just about probability. There are many, many simulations. These simulations, we might as well call them reality, or we could call them the multiverse.",
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"content": "...inaudible...",
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"content": "If you can translate that into a product that people can experience and that they like, and that delights them, then that’s a good measure of the success of the product, you know. So I really like the fact that when people buy a car that they experience delight. And for many people, they’ve told me it’s like the best product they’ve ever bought, and it made them happy. And there was one person who said, like, whenever they feel sad, they can just go to the garage and look at the car, and it makes them happy. I was like, that’s cool. That’s really cool.",
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"content": "And that’s what we’re proposing here with our process. As you can see, a whole lot less is going on here. We get rid of the intermediate. Metal, water, final product cathode, recirculate the water, no wastewater at all. And when you summarize all of that, it’s a 66% reduction in capex investment, a 76% reduction in process costs, and zero wastewater. Much more scalable solution.\nAnd then when you think about the fact that now we’re actually just directly consuming the raw metal nickel powder, it dramatically simplifies the metal refining part of the whole process. So we can eliminate billions in battery grade nickel intermediate production. It’s not needed at all. And we can also use that same process we showed on the previous page to directly consume the metal powder coming out of recycled electric vehicles and grid storage batteries. So this process enables both simpler mining and simpler recycling.\nAnd now that we have this process, obviously we’re going to go and start building our own cathode facility in North America and leveraging all of the North American resources that exist for nickel and lithium. And just doing that, just localizing our cathode supply chain and production, we can reduce miles traveled by all the materials that end up in the cathode by 80%, which is huge for cost.",
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"content": "Yeah. To be clear, cathode production would be part of the Tesla cell production plant. So it would just be basically raw materials coming from the mine, and from raw materials in the mine outcomes a battery.",
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"content": "And on that note, the way the lithium ends up in the cell is through the cathode. So then we should obviously on-site lithium conversion as well, which is what we will do, using a new process that we’re going to pioneer. That’s a sulfate-free process again – skip the intermediate. 33% reduction in lithium cost, a 100% electric facility co-located with the cathode plant.",
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"content": "So it’s important to note that there is a massive amount of lithium on Earth. So lithium is not like oil. There’s a massive amount of it, pretty much everywhere. In fact, there’s enough lithium in the United States to convert the entire United States fleet to electric – all the cars in the United States, like 300 million or something like that. Every vehicle in the United States can be converted to electric using only lithium that is available in the United States.",
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"content": "Yeah. It’s weird. Acceptable deaths are weird. And that’s the slippery slope about these people shaming people for wanting to go back to work. “Other people are going to die.” Well, if you drive: Do you drive? Agree you should stop driving because people die from driving. So you definitely should fill up all the swimming pools because like 50 people die every day in this country from swimming. So let’s not swim anymore.",
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"content": "Yeah, water is really dangerous.",
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"content": "We need to chop down all the coconut trees.",
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"content": "Stop water.",
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"content": "What about demand? Not many Europeans drive electric cars yet. Yet you’re building a Giga factory as it’s called. Is demand or creation of demand an issue in your mind, or do you think if the car is good, if the car’s workable, if it’s affordable, it will be sold?",
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"content": "Absolutely.",
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"content": "Definitely?",
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"content": "Yeah. No question.",
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"content": "Do you feel anybody has leverage over you?",
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"content": "I think at the end of the day, if we make bad products that people don’t want to use, then the users will vote with their resources and use something else.",
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"content": "Let me pivot the conversation for a second.",
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"content": "Certainly, my company’s overseen by regulators. Since SpaceX, Starlink, Tesla are overseen by cumulatively over 100 regulators, and actually more than that, a few hundred regulators because you’ve got, we’re in fifty-five countries. If you sum up all the times that I had an argument with regulators, of hundreds of regulators over decades, it can sound really terrible, except but they forgot to mention that there were 10 million regulations we complied with and only five that I disagreed with. But they list all the five and it sounds like, wow, this guy’s a real maverick. I’m like, yeah, but what about the 10 million we complied with?",
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"content": "You basically taught yourself a lot of things in computer programming as a child, and after, taking physics and economics in college. You taught yourself automotive technologies, and then rocketry, battery technology, and so on and so forth. What’s the motivation behind all this?",
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"content": "Well, I basically learn whatever I need to learn to accomplish an objective. And I think actually most people could do this. But they often self limit. People are capable of more than they think. But I mean, what I’ve found is if you simply read a lot of books and talk to people, you can learn almost anything.",
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"content": "But was reading also an escape or rescue to you as a boy? In school, I’ve learned that you’re kind of the youngest in the class and bullied sometimes.",
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"content": "That’s true.",
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"content": "Did you feel the same way when CNN had that stupid shit about ventilators with you? I found that both confusing and-",
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"content": "Yeah. That was annoying.",
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"content": "It was annoying.",
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"content": "It was wrong.",
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"content": "Do you ever wake up with the fear that there’s going to be this Hindenburg moment for SpaceX where…",
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"content": "We’ve had many Hindenburg… well, we’ve never had Hindenburg moments with people, which is very important. Big difference. We’ve blown up quite a few rockets. There’s a whole compilation online that we put together and others put together. It’s showing rockets are hard. I mean, the sheer amount of energy going through a rocket boggles the mind. So, you know, getting out of Earth’s gravity well is difficult. We have a strong gravity and a thick atmosphere. And Mars, which is less than 40%, it’s like 37% of Earth’s gravity and has a thin atmosphere. The ship alone can go all the way from the surface of Mars to the surface of Earth. Whereas getting to Mars requires a giant booster and orbital refilling.",
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"content": "So, Elon, as I think more about this incredible array of things that you’re involved with, I keep seeing these synergies, to use a horrible word, between them. You know, for example, the robots you’re building from Tesla could possibly be pretty handy on Mars, doing some of the dangerous work and so forth. I mean, maybe there’s a scenario where your city on Mars doesn’t need a million people. It needs half a million people and half a million robots.",
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"content": "Sure.",
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"content": "Like the cortex is the part that tells the story of the whole thing, so we convince ourselves it’s more interesting than just the monkey brain.",
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"content": "The cortex is what we call like human intelligence. That’s like the advanced computer, relative to other creatures. The other creatures do not have, really they don’t have the computer, or they have a very weak computer, relative to humans. But it sort of seems like, surely the really smart thing should control the dumb thing. But actually the dumb thing controls the smart thing.",
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"content": "So do you think some of the same kind of machine learning methods, whether that’s natural language processing applications, are going to be applied for the communication between the machine and the brain? To learn how to do certain things like movement of the body, how to process visual stimuli and so on? Do you see the value of using machine learning to understand the language of the two-way communication with the brain?",
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"content": "Sure. Yeah, absolutely. I mean, we’re a neural net, and A.I. is basically a neural net. So it’s like digital neural net will interface with biological neural net. And hopefully bring us along for the ride, you know? But the vast majority of our intelligence will be digital. So think of like the difference in intelligence between your cortex and your limbic system is gigantic. Your limbic system really has no comprehension of what the hell the cortex is doing. It’s just literally hungry, or tired, or angry, or sexy or something, you know. And that communicates that impulse to the cortex and tells the cortex to go satisfy that.\nA massive amount of thinking, like truly stupendous amount of thinking, has gone into sex. Without purpose, without procreation, which is actually quite a silly action in the absence of procreation. It’s a bit silly, so why are you doing it? Because to make the limbic system happy, that’s why.",
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"content": "So it’s not, perhaps, like singular figures aren’t even as important as the figures involved in the evolution of ideas that led to things.",
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"content": "Yeah.",
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"content": "Perhaps, it’s sad to think about history, but maybe most names will be forgotten anyway.",
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"content": "What is a name anyway? A name attached to an idea, what does it even mean really?",
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"content": "But it’s fascinating, because there’s a pool of people that have disagreements and somehow they collaborate through that process of disagreement to come up with context… It’s fascinating it works.",
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"content": "Yeah. It makes sense that if people who in the past have disagreed, agree about something, it’s probably true.",
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"content": "Yeah. I wonder, is there a possible somehow emergent thing there that could challenge Wikipedia? Wikipedia is a different kind of thing, which is more permanent articles about things.",
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"content": "Wikipedia is very hierarchical. Whereas, Community Notes is inherently not. There is no hierarchy. The asset test is I can’t change a community note if somebody put a gun to my head. And Community Notes, all the code is open source, 100%. All the data is open source, 100%. So, you can completely recreate any note in the system independently. So, if there was any interference, you’d notice immediately.",
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"content": "No way! And those are the header tanks?",
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"content": "Yeah.",
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"content": "And all the batteries, you got what, six. . .",
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"content": "They’ve got four Tesla 100 kilowatt-hour batteries. And we just like, basically welded it onto the header tanks.",
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"content": "Yeah, that’s what they say.",
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"content": "So have huge balls. They do huge balls of lightning.",
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"content": "I’ll take you word for it.",
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"content": "In the seasonal realm, it’s pretty easy to beat Uber Lilith because you get these vapor powers that out amplify your damage and increase your defense and whatnot. So really quite easy to defeat Hatred seasonally, but to defeat Hatred eternally very difficult, almost impossible. It’s very impossible. It seems like a metaphor for life.",
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"content": "It’s Twitter, it’s the world.",
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"content": "Oh my god.",
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"content": "But someone else said, “The average age of people who die from Covid is older than the average age people die.”",
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"content": "Let’s just say it’s about the same.",
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"content": "Over 10,000 acres.",
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"content": "Over 10,000 acres. And then the nature of the mining is actually also very environmentally sensitive. We sort of take a chunk of dirt out of the ground, remove the lithium, and then put the chunk of dirt back where it was. So it will look pretty much the same as before; it will not look like terrible. And yeah, it’ll be nice.",
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"content": "Simply mix clay with salt, put it in water, salt comes out with the lithium, done.",
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"content": "Yeah. It’s pretty crazy.",
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"content": "How do you stay ahead?\nYeah, let’s go ahead. Last question, and then we move on to Olivier. Maybe just finish the last question. They asked, how do you stay ahead? How do you keep like, …?",
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"content": "I don’t know if we will stay ahead. Maybe we won’t stay ahead. I just think about how we can improve the experience for the owner of the car. How could we make it the most fun, the most functional? What can we do to help them love the product as much as possible? And if somebody else makes a better product, then more power to them. You know, then I guess we should lose.\nOlivier Reppert, CEO Share Now",
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"content": "Okay. We at Share Now, we really believe that we can improve the quality of life in the cities, and we love cars, really, we really love cars. But we also believe car sharing is something which makes the usage of cars much more efficient, for sure. And also, it makes it really affordable, even a very expensive car if you only have to pay it for a minute, or a minute basis or an hourly basis. It’s really, I would say something you can do whatever money you have.\nWhat would be very interesting for us, because we always try to look into the future, also in our business – very important, and to innovate what we do in the mobility area -is how do you see mobility in 20 years, especially in urban areas. And maybe you have the one or other ideas, which would also help us to further develop our product.",
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"content": "I think 20 years, almost every car made will be fully autonomous, and almost every car made will be electric. This does not mean that the whole fleet will be electric, or the whole fleet will be autonomous because the annual production rate of new cars, new cars and trucks, at full speed, is around 100 million units a year. But there’s two billion cars and trucks in active use, and that number is rising. Basically, it takes 20 years from the point of which 100% of all vehicle production is electric; it’s still 20 years from that point before the fleet is fully electric.\nSo, I think people sometimes… – you know it, of course – but most people don’t realize, it’s not like phones, you can’t just replace all the cars and trucks overnight. The new vehicle production is only 5% the size of the fleet. And as it is right now, only a few percent of new car production is electric. And at least right now, no new car production is fully autonomous. But 20 years from now, probably essentially 100% electric, essentially 100% fully autonomous.",
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"content": "We are, video games.",
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"content": "Where trying to figure out what’s real is super hard.",
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"content": "Yeah, I’ve fooled millions of people with the one of Joe Biden falling off the airplane. So anything’s possible.",
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"content": "Well he has stairway a few times on the stairwell, so that’s quite believable in that situation. So a bunch of things very close to the truth, it’s quite reasonable to expect that people would interpret that as possibly true. So yeah, I think just verification that an account is real, that material is real. What is real anymore is an extremely fundamental question.",
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"content": "So what should the US government do? We had Gary Gensler on earlier, the SEC chairman. He was calling it the ‘Wild West of finance’. What should they do, if anything?",
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"content": "I would say “do nothing.”",
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"content": "Okay, they’re not saying that.",
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"content": "Yeah, I mean, I would seriously just let it apply.",
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"content": "Do you think that that is maybe the way you recognize that you have this unusual position in the culture where you can uniquely influence certain things because of this? I mean, you essentially have a gift, right.I mean, you would think it was a curse, but I’m sure it’s been fueled by many, many years of discipline and learning. But you, essentially, have a gift, and that you have this radical sort of creativity engine when it comes to innovation and technology. It’s like you’re just you’re going at very high RPMs.",
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"content": "All the time. That doesn’t stop.",
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"content": "What is that like?",
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"content": "I don’t know what would happen if I got into a sensory deprivation tank.",
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"content": "It’s extremely difficult. At least that’s what like Joe says and the comedians say.",
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"content": "I wonder if I could.",
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"content": "Only one way to find out.",
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"content": "You know, I have done stand-up for friends, just impromptu, you know, (…2:15:36). And they do laugh, but they’re all friends, too. So I don’t know if you got like a room of strangers, are they gonna actually also find it funny. But I could try. See what happens.",
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"content": "You’re gonna do it? Alright, here we go. So the first one is – hold on, I think I know how to work this Apple watch, alright – 60 seconds and Cybertruck.",
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"content": "Cybertruck. Cybertruck is gonna be an incredible product. I think it may be our best product ever… I think it probably will be. It has a lot of new technology, so it’s a hard car to make, but it will be awesome. And I think I’ve said before, you know, we’re aiming for volume production in 2023. I will provide a more detailed part updates at the Tesla earnings call early next year. I wish it could be sooner, but that’s most likely when it happens. It’ll be something really special. You know, like just one of those kind of rare products that happens once in a while that’s really special.",
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"content": "Okay, that was about 60 seconds. I don’t know what’s going on with my watch, but we’re on Cybertruck. Right now, we’re on to Neuralink. So, the big question is, in 2022, how are you pushing that project along? What happens?",
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"content": "Neuralink is working well in monkeys, and we’re also doing just a lot of testing and just confirming that it’s very safe and reliable and that the Neuralink device can be removed safely. People may have seen the demo that we published earlier this year with the video of a monkey playing the video game Pong telepathically using the Neuralink in its brain. It’s completely wireless, charges inductively. Basically, the monkey looks completely normal and yet is playing a video game telepathically, which is, I think, quite profound.\nWe hope to have this in our first humans, which will be people that have severe spinal cord injuries like tetraplegics, quadriplegics next year, pending FDA approval. I should say our standards for implanting that device are substantially higher than what the FDA requires, just as our standards for safety with Tesla are much higher than what the US government requires. And I’ve taken a little more than 60 seconds.",
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"content": "Maybe more.",
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"content": "Maybe more.",
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"content": "Are you and AOC secretly friends? Bigger question, do you wish you and her, and just people in general of all political persuasions, would talk more with empathy and maybe have a little bit more fun and good vibes and humor online?",
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"content": "I’m always in favor of humor. That’s why we have funny mode.",
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"content": "We might have to argue about the yoke, but we’re getting accustomed to it. It’s a great car.",
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"content": "It’s like something different, and it’s different. And people sometimes don’t like the different thing. But it’s pretty damn cool. I think it’s great. …blame me for being odd. It’s my fault.",
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"content": "How much did your kids push you on the yoke? Was it your kids? Because my kids just love the yoke. So, that’s works for them. Anyway, really, really quick: Look, we’re living in this in-between time between we drive our cars, ourselves, and the cars drive themselves. They’re semi-autonomous. For those of us in the industry, those of us who understand something about technology, about machine learning, I actually like it; it’s pretty easy. It fixes my mistakes. I fix its mistakes.\nA lot in the press, though, about it, and Google’s position certainly is, this is like the worst place to be. Right? Because people are going to get checked out in the cars, are going to drive themselves into… What do you think about the ML\n(machine learning)\nhuman hybrids that we’re kind of, you know, embracing right now? How long are we going to have these crossover periods? I know you believe FSD is around the corner. Do you think this is really a problem, or we’re going to teach people to deal with ML?",
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"content": "Well, I mean, the transition period to new technology is always a little bumpy. But I think we published the safety stats, like basically miles driven on autopilot and miles driven manually. And this, I mean, it’s an order of magnitude different. So like, people would say, “Oh well, you’re playing with the statistics,” I’m like, “Listen, we’re just saying, miles driven autopilot, miles not driven autopilot,” and there’s a factor 10 difference. So I mean, even if we were like… we’re not fiddling with the statistics. This is not subtle. That is what I’m saying. It’s not subtle.\nThe truth is that people are actually not great at driving these two-ton death machines, you know. And people get tired, and they get drunk, and they get distracted, and they text, and they do all sorts of things they shouldn’t do. And then the cars crash, basically. When we’re embarking on the autonomy front, someone told me, I think that’s quite true, which is, even if you, for argument’s sake, reduce fatalities by 90% with autonomy, the 10% that do die with autonomy are still going to sue you. The 90% that are living don’t even know that that’s the reason they’re alive.\nNonetheless, I’ve had many conversations with the Tesla autopilot full self-driving team, who are just an outstanding group of people. And saying, like, listen, guys, it is better to pursue… – Like, the reality of doing the right thing matters more than the perception of doing the right thing. As long as we are confident that we’re doing the right thing, even if we are criticized and sued and all that, we should nonetheless do the right thing and not care about simply the perception of the right thing.",
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"content": "That seems irresponsible.",
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"content": "I mean, look, if I see the slightest indication that there are aliens, I will immediately post on X platform anything I know.",
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"content": "It could be the most liked reposted post of all time.",
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"content": "Yeah. I mean, look, we have more satellites up there right now than everyone else combined. So we know if we’ve got a maneuver around something and we don’t have to maneuver around anything.",
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