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"content": "Yes, but they don’t have the megaphone, right? And that’s the conundrum. They can only say it to the 50 or a hundred people that are standing there in Times Square.",
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"content": "I mean, look, the joke I used to make about old Twitter was it was like giving everyone in the psych ward a megaphone. So I’m aware that things can get promoted that are negative beyond the sort of circle of somebody simply screaming crazy things in Times Square, which happens all the time. Actually, it’s pretty rare for something frankly that is hateful to be promoted. It’s not that it never happens, but it’s fairly rare. I mean, I would encourage people to look for those that use the system. When you look at the feed that you receive, how often is it hateful? And over time, has it gotten more or less hateful? I would say that if you look at the X platform today versus a year ago, I think it is actually much better. I mean, what is your personal experience?",
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"content": "Are you surprised?",
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"content": "I’m just curious. You use this-",
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"content": "Give it to grandpa.",
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"content": "Yeah. They had the family gathering. And they don’t know that this is a big deal. But it’s just important to remember when you get old; your immune system’s just not that strong. And so, just be careful with your loved ones who are elderly.",
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"content": "And I think there is some true objective understanding of the immune system and the ways to boost that immune system. And I really think that information should be distributed in a way, a nonjudgmental way, but like, “Look, this is a scientifically proven way that we can boost our immune system and it might save your life, and it might save the life of your loved ones.” And maybe we could teach this to our grandparents and our parents and people that are vulnerable. Vitamin C, heat shock proteins, all these different variables that we know contribute to a stronger immune system.",
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"content": "Yeah. Actually, just a thing that is tough. As you get older, you tend to put on weight; certainly, that’s happening with me. The older I get, like, “Damn, sure harder to stay lean.” That’s for sure. And so, actually, being overweight is a big deal. It’s a fact. Yeah.",
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"content": "I’m interested, I’ve written down a lot of these questions, but I haven’t written this one down. But it’s interesting, it feels like you have quite an interesting relationship with the media because in one some ways you’re quite skeptical, quite critical certainly of established media, but also you kind of get hurt by what the media writes and you seem to-",
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"content": "I do, but-",
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"content": "But do you get your news still from the BBC, as you’ve already said?",
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"content": "I literally follow the BBC on Twitter.",
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"content": "Is it a documentary?",
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"content": "Yeah, it’s kind of like a documentary. I was like,” Damn, these chimps are mean.”",
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"content": "They’re mean.",
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"content": "They’re cruel.",
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"content": "It seems like it would take away some of the fun from people that know it’s sarcasm. Like if everybody knew that\nThe Onion\nwasn’t… – If you sent people articles, it was something about someone getting angry at an Onion article.",
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"content": "Wow, that’s amazing.",
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"content": "You know what I mean? Where they don’t realize what it is. There’s something fun about that for everybody else.",
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"content": "Yeah, I think it’s pretty great. It might be the best news source.",
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"content": "It’s not a flamethrower. Now, we’ve got a real problem, I’m going to put it on that side, too, and leave it for the guests.",
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"content": "Yeah.",
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"content": "I’m like, „Look, man, if I say something that fucked up, it’s right there.“",
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"content": "It will liven things up for sure. It’s guaranteed to make any party better.",
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"content": "Yeah. I mean, if you’re motivated to solve some of these problems, which are the hardest problems in the world to solve, that really fundamentally enable the future we all need, please reach out and help us work on these problems.",
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"content": "Absolutely. And like you said, the battle is far from over. Less than 1% of the global automotive fleet has been converted to electric, and even maybe less than 0.1% of stationary storage has been done. So stationary storage has barely begun, converting the global vehicle fleet to electric has barely begun. So, there’s still a massive amount of engineering work to be done at Tesla and other companies to accelerate this transition to sustainability.",
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"content": "Hey, can you guys hear me?\nYeah.\nThis is Jordan from Mark Asset Management. You’ve talked about the importance of the factory, and you’ve mentioned the ground-up design process and a lot of the new things that you’re going to be doing or started to do in Shanghai, Berlin, and Austin. Can you just maybe help us understand and quantify how financially meaningful all of those improvements will be, and then given what you’re trying to accomplish as a company, is it fair to assume that the vast majority of improvement will be given back to the customer in the form of lower prices?",
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"content": "Yeah. I mean, I think certainly we will try to give back as much as possible to the customers. It’s not like Tesla’s profitability is crazy high; our average profitability for the last four quarters is maybe 1%. So just to be clear, it’s not like we’re minting money. Our evaluation makes it seem like we are, but we’re not. We do want to try to make the price as competitive as we can, without losing money. If you keep losing money, you’ll just die. This thing called profit is just like, we need to bring in more money than we spend; otherwise, we’re dead.",
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"content": "Yes. Great movie.",
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"content": "Yeah, great one.",
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"content": "There’s an interpretation factor, too. Like you can choose to interpret certain series of words in different ways, and they’re dependent upon tone, dependent upon social cues, even facial expressions, sarcasm. There’s a lot of variables.",
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"content": "Sarcasm is difficult.",
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"content": "I think Girdle will say something about that. There’s some mathematical contradictions possible. If everything’s a truth. Do you think he’ll come back to X and start posting there?",
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"content": "I mean, I think he owns a big part of Truth.",
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"content": "Truth Social, to clarify.",
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"content": "Yeah, Truth Social, sorry.",
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"content": "I’m literally asking you about… You changed the labels, the Covid misinformation labels. There used to be a policy and then it disappears. Why do that?",
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"content": "Well, Covid is no longer an issue. Does the BBC hold itself at all responsible for misinformation regarding masking and side effects of vaccinations, and not reporting on that at all?\nAnd what about the fact that the BBC was put under pressure by the British government to change its editorial policy? Are you aware of that?",
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"content": "This is not an interview about the BBC.",
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"content": "Oh, you thought it wasn’t?",
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"content": "Welcome back.",
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"content": "Here we go again.",
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"content": "Well, I’ve driven one. I love them.",
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"content": "Yeah, but most people don’t know what it can do.",
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"content": "In terms of, like, ludicrous mode? In terms of, like, driving super fast and irresponsibly on public roads, is that what you’re saying?",
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"content": "Well, any car can do that.",
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"content": "Yeah, I don’t think they have them at many zoos. We’ve looked that up before too, didn’t we?",
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"content": "It’s probably pretty awkward.",
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"content": "I think that’s the thing. They don’t like to keep regular chimps at zoos because bonobos are just always jacking off and…",
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"content": "Yeah.",
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"content": "Well, out here, they seem like, you know, every…",
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"content": "Well, this is our home team. We better sell a lot in the Bay Area. Because otherwise, we’re like…",
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"content": "And, well, I mean, similar thing. How did you start? What gave you the confidence? And do you see yourselves as kind of a major automotive, mainstream brand in five, ten years, all the way down to competing with the Honda Accords and Civics?",
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"content": "I mean, yeah. Our goal, it’s not to become a big brand or to compete with Honda Civics, rather to advance the cause of electric vehicles. We’re just going to keep making more and more electric cars and driving the price point down until the industry is very firmly electric. Like maybe half of all cars made are electric or something like that, which is not to say that we expect to make half of all cars. We want to just have that catalytic effect until at least that occurs. The point at which we’re approaching half of all new cars made are electric, then I think I would consider that to be the victory condition. The faster we can bring that day, the better.",
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"content": "And that’s the only time you do this? Seems like you’re on there a lot.",
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"content": "No, I mean there’ll be brief moments between meetings. I mean obviously, I have 17 jobs and no, I guess technically it’s work at this point.",
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"content": "It is, but I’m thinking just in terms of your mind share. I mean, by the way, there’s a lot of people who should be working who are on this app.",
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"content": "Technically posting on Twitter or X is work. It does count as work. So there’s that. But no, I mean I think I’m on… Well I guess usually, probably I’m on for longer than I think I am.",
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"content": "Post, let’s say post, when you post-",
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"content": "Listen, anyone can come up with a better word, that would be great.",
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"content": "When you post though-",
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"content": "But the least bad word I can think of is post.",
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"content": "Yeah. That’s true. I agree with that, but that doesn’t mean a lot to a whole lot of people who aren’t able to take advantage of the opportunities that you are able to take advantage of, simply because of the color of your skin.",
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"content": "What advantages does it do, the color of my skin give me?",
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"content": "Well, there’s an ease that you have in society that many people of color don’t. You are able to come to this country voluntarily. There are many people who are not able to come to the country voluntarily. There are people who came here as slaves.",
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"content": "Actually, it was very difficult for me to come here.",
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"content": "And it seems like at this point in time, particularly, our resources would be best served protecting the people that are at risk versus penalizing the people that are not at high risk for living their life the way they did, particularly having a career, and making a living, and feeding your family, paying your bills, keeping your store open, keeping your restaurant open.",
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"content": "Yes. I mean, there’s a strong downside to this. So yeah, I just believe this is a free country. You should be allowed to do what you want as long as it does not endanger others.",
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"content": "But that’s the thing, right? This is the argument they will bring up. You are endangering others. You should stay home for the people that, even if you’re fine, even if you know you’re going to be okay, there’s certain people that will not be okay because of your actions. They might get exposed to this thing that we don’t have a vaccine for, we don’t have a universally accepted treatment for, and then we need to… There’s two arguments, right?\nOne argument is we need to keep going, protect the weak, protect the sick, but let’s open up the economy. The other argument is stop placing money over human lives and let’s shelter in place until we come up with some sort of a decision and let’s figure out some way to develop some sort of a universal income, universal basic income plan, or something like that, to feed people during this time while we make this transition.",
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"content": "Yeah. I think there’s a, as I said, my opinion is if somebody wants to stay home, they should stay home. If somebody doesn’t want to stay home, they should not be compelled to stay home. That’s my opinion. If somebody doesn’t like that, well that’s my opinion. This notion, though, that you can just sort of send checks out to everybody and things will be fine is not true, obviously. There’s some people have this absurd view that the economy is like some magic horn of plenty. Like it just makes stuff. There’s just a magic horn of plenty, and the goods and services, they just come from this magic horn of plenty. And then if somebody has more stuff than somebody else, it’s because they took more from this magic horn of plenty. Now let me just break it to the fools out there.\nIf you don’t make stuff, there’s no stuff. Yeah. So, if you don’t make the food, if you don’t process the food, you don’t transport the food, medical treatment, getting your teeth fixed, there’s no stuff. They’ve become detached from reality. You can’t just legislate money and solve these things. If you don’t make stuff, there is no stuff, obviously. We’ll run out of the stores, run out of the… the machine just grinds to a halt.",
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"content": "This is cool. OK, from a really badass picture to a kind of less badass picture. (Showing) This is just a cute house from “Desperate Housewives” or something. What on earth is going on here?",
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"content": "Well, this illustrates the picture of the future that I think is how things will evolve. You’ve got an electric car in the driveway. If you look in between the electric car and the house, there are actually three Powerwalls stacked up against the side of the house, and then that house roof is a solar roof. So that’s an actual solar glass roof.",
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"content": "Okay.",
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"content": "That’s a picture of a real – well, admittedly, it’s a real fake house. That’s a real fake house.",
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"content": "Alright, China, cryptocurrency, what they’re doing?",
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"content": "That’s my safe word, by the way.",
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"content": "Okay. What for doing? Cryptocurrency?",
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"content": "Yeah, it’ll kill any violators.",
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"content": "Pretty dope, right?",
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"content": "This is a great clock.",
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"content": "You want one? I’ll get you one.",
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"content": "Sure.",
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"content": "Yes, that’s a great idea.",
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"content": "And then we’re even going to have it like if it detects that you’re having issues, it’ll take you to the hospital. You know, just like, having a heart attack or something, it’ll just take you straight to the emergency room.",
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"content": "Well, I think I mentioned this already; I think that self-driving feature is going to save more lives than seat belts, airbags, and every other thing that we’ve done to cars combined because that’s the way to go.",
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"content": "Absolutely. Worldwide there’s about a million people a year dying in car accidents, and that’s a hell of a lot. Ten million people that get seriously injured. You know we got to hustle on this.",
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"content": "Well, right now, they are confused, but when you’re talking about your Neuralink, and this idea that one day, we’re going to be able to share information, and we’re going to be some sort of a thing that’s symbiotically connected?",
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"content": "Yeah. I think we really need to worry about security in that situationfor sure. That’s like security paramount.",
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"content": "But, also, what we will be. This will be so much different. Our concerns about money, about status, about all these things, will seemingly go by the wayside if we really become enlightened, if we really become artificially enlightened by some sort of an AI interface where we have this symbiotic relationship with some new internet type connection to information. But, you know, what happens then? What is important? What is not important? Is privacy important when we’re all gods?",
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"content": "I think the things that we think are important to keep private right now we probably will not think are important to keep…",
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"content": "You’ve definitely done that. The issue is that you are now Twitter owner. Do you feel like you should look at your tweets more? You have a higher responsibility when you tweet something out for it to be accurate?",
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"content": "I think I should not tweet after 3: 00 AM.",
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"content": "That’s the rule.",
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"content": "Yeah. Well, maybe 2 AM.",
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"content": "And you seem to laugh it off, which I think is fantastic. I love it that you have a sense of humor because a guy as important as you who makes changes could use your powers for evil and not good.",
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"content": "Yeah, absolutely.\n(stares like a villain)",
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"content": "You could.",
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"content": "Of course, I would never use them for evil.\n(stares like a villain again and laughs)",
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"content": "Wow. So you think this is going to be a reality? What’s your best guess of when we’re going to have someone on Mars?",
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"content": "I think probably about 12 years.",
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"content": "That’s nothing. And you think it’ll be a round trip? It won’t just be some type of permanent colony on Mars?",
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"content": "I think it’s probably a round trip. It’s not for sure.Aspirational, it’d be a round trip.",
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"content": "Is there a way to accelerate that process, like some sort of subsidies or some encouragement from the government financially?",
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"content": "Well, the thing that is going on right now is that there is an inherent subsidy in any oil-burning device. Any power plant or car is fundamentally consuming the carbon capacity of the oceans and atmosphere, or just say atmosphere for short. So, like, you can say, okay, there’s a certain probability of something bad happening past a certain carbon concentration in the atmosphere.\nAnd so, there’s some uncertain number where if we put too much carbon into the atmosphere, things overheat, oceans warm up, ice caps melt, ocean real estate becomes a lot less valuable, you know, if something’s underwater, but it’s not clear what that number is. But, definitely, scientists, it’s really quite — The scientific consensus is overwhelming. Overwhelming.\nI mean, I don’t know any serious scientist, actually zero, literally zero who don’t think, you know, that we have quite a serious climate risk that we’re facing. And so, there’s fundamentally a subsidy occurring with every fossil fuel burning thing, power plants, aircraft, car, frankly even rockets. I mean, rockets use up — you know, they burn fuel. But there’s just — you know, with rockets, there’s just no other way to get to orbit, unfortunately. So, it’s the only way.\nBut with cars, there’s definitely a better way with electric cars. And to generate the energy, do so with photovoltaics because we’ve got a giant thermonuclear reactor in the sky called the sun. It’s great. It sort of shows up every day, very reliable. So, if you can generate energy from solar panels stored up with batteries, you can have energy 24 hours a day.\nAnd then, you know, you can send to the poles or near to the north with, you know, high voltage lines. Most of the northern parts of the world tend to have a lot of hydropower as well. But, anyway, all fossil fuel-powered things have an inherent subsidy, which is their consumption of the carbon capacity of the atmosphere and oceans.\nSo, people tend to think like why should electric vehicles have a subsidy, but they’re not taking into account that all fossil fuel-burning vehicles fundamentally are subsidized by the cost, the environmental cost to Earth, but nobody’s paying for it. We are going to pay for it, obviously. In the future, we’ll pay for it. It’s just not paid for now.",
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"content": "And what is the bottleneck in regards to electric cars, and trucks, and things like that? Is it battery capacity?",
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"content": "Yeah. You got to scale up production. You got to make the car compelling, make it better than gasoline or diesel cars.",
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"content": "Yeah.",
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"content": "That’s cool.",
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"content": "I’ll grab it. Hold on. (\npasses Elon the sword\n) Yeah, that’s a legit samurai sword from an actual samurai from the 1500s. If you pull out that blade, that blade was made the old way where a master craftsman…",
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"content": "Folded metal?",
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"content": "And eventually, as we said at the beginning, when we get to this steady-state 20 TWh per year of production, we will transfer the entire non-renewable fleet of both power plants, home heating, and industry heating and vehicles to electric. And at that point, we have an awesome resource in those batteries to recycle to make new batteries. So we don’t need to do any more mining at that point.\nAnd you can see why. The difference in the value of the material coming back from the vehicle versus the ground, you’d always go to the vehicle. And we recycle a hundred percent of our vehicle batteries today. And actually, we are starting our pilot full-scale recycling production at Gigafactory Reno next quarter to continue to develop this process as our recycling returns grow.",
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"content": "To date, it’s been done by third parties, but we think we can recycle the batteries more effectively, especially since we’re making the same battery as the thing we’re recycling. Whereas third-party recyclers have to consider batteries of all kinds.",
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"content": "Yeah. And just to think about what this actually means: the recycling resource is always 10 or greater years delayed because batteries last a really long time. But eventually, it is the way that all resources will be made available. And that’s why we’re investing in this recycling facility in Nevada.",
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"content": "Yeah. Long-term, new batteries will come from old batteries once the fleet reaches steady state.",
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"content": "Through this one inch diameter device, electrodes would be inserted, and they will find their way…",
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"content": "Like tiny wires, basically.",
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"content": "And they’ll find their way to specific areas of the brain to stimulate?",
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"content": "No, you literally put them where they’re supposed to go.",
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"content": "I mean it’s a fascinating problem. So there’s several aspects of it that’s fascinating. First, as the write-up goes, it first picks 1500 tweets from a pool of hundreds of millions. First of all, that’s fascinating. You have hundreds of millions of posts every single day, and it has to pick 1500 from which it then does obviously people you follow, but then there’s also some kind of clustering it has to do to figure out what kind of human are you, what kind of new clusters might be relevant to you, people like you. This kind of problem is just fascinating because it has to then rank those 1500 with some filtering and then recommend you just a handful.\nAnd to me, what’s really fascinating is how fast it has to do that. So currently that entire pipeline to go from several hundred million to a handful takes 220 seconds of CPU time, single CPU time, and then it has to do that in a second. So it has to be super distributed in fascinating ways. There’s just a lot of tweets, there’s a lot.",
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"content": "There’s a lot of stuff on the system, but I think, right now it’s not currently good at recommending things from accounts you don’t follow or where there’s more than one degree of separation. So it is pretty good if there’s at least some commonality between someone you follow liked something or reposted it or commented on it or something like that. But if there’s no, let’s say somebody posts something really interesting, but you have no followers in common, you would not see it.",
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"content": "Interesting. And then as you said, replies might not surface either.",
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"content": "Replies basically never get seen currently. I’m not saying it’s correct, I’m saying it’s incorrect. Replies have a couple order magnitude less importance than primary posts.",
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"content": "Yeah, and you did that; I mean, look at last year, ‚\ndearMoon\n‚. You guys were kind of in that awkward stage of probably figuring this out right here. You know, you had the carbon fiber mandrel. . .",
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"content": "I think we didn’t even have the steel; I think we were still on the path… When was the ‚dearMoon‘ thing?",
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"content": "Almost exactly a year ago.",
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"content": "That was before the change to steel.",
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| 431 |
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"content": "Are we good, guys?",
"role": "user"
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"content": "Wow. Okay. We’ve got 200,000 people listening.",
"role": "assistant"
},
{
"content": "That is great. All right.",
"role": "user"
},
{
"content": "Okay, great.",
"role": "assistant"
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| 432 |
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"content": "Well, when you’re implementing it – you’re digging holes in the ground – so you have to bring it to someone that lets you do it.",
"role": "user"
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"content": "There were some engineers from SpaceX who thought it would be cool to do this. And the guy who runs it day-to-day, Steve Davis, he’s a long-time SpaceX engineer; he’s great. Steve was like, I’d like to help make this happen, and I was like, cool. So, we started off with digging a hole in the ground. It’s got like a permit for a pit, big pit, and just dug a big pit.",
"role": "assistant"
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"content": "And you have to tell them what the pit’s for, or you just say ‘hey, we just want to dig a hole’.",
"role": "user"
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{
"content": "I just filled out this form.",
"role": "assistant"
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| 433 |
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"content": "And you ended up… you had some failures, but obviously some huge successes. What was the cost that you were able to build this rocket for relative to what they were being built for before?",
"role": "user"
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"content": "Let’s see. For the Falcon 1, which is the first rocket we built, and the first three flights did not make it. In fact, we got progressively further, but the first rocket came in and landed maybe a couple hundred yards away from the launch site and\n(in)\ntiny fragments. So, yeah, anyway, that rocket ended up costing around $6 million compared to other rockets in that class, which were about up to $25 million.",
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| 434 |
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"content": "What does that mean?",
"role": "user"
},
{
"content": "Well, I guess you’ll have to stay tuned to find out.",
"role": "assistant"
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"content": "Oh, I love it.\nFor another episode. I’ve canceled my Netflix-\nTune in next .\n… Twitter. Twitter’s taken my time. Yeah. Thank you for that. It’s very entertaining. Very entertaining.",
"role": "user"
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"content": "It’s very entertaining. I was thinking Twitter does make me miserable at times, but it actually makes me laugh as well. And I think if it’s entertaining and informative, then we’re doing a good job.",
"role": "assistant"
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| 435 |
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"content": "Why did you think you were insane?",
"role": "user"
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"content": "Because it is clear that other people do not. Their mind wasn’t exploding with ideas all the time.",
"role": "assistant"
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"content": "So, they weren’t expressing it. They weren’t talking about it all day. And you realized by the time you were five or six like, „Oh, they’re probably not even getting this thing that I’m getting.“",
"role": "user"
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"content": "No. It was just strange. It was like, „Hmm, kind of strange.“ That was my conclusion, kind of strange.",
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| 436 |
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"content": "When do you think you’re going to do it? How long will you wait? Once it starts becoming available?",
"role": "user"
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{
"content": "Yeah, if it works, I’ll do it. Sure.",
"role": "assistant"
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{
"content": "Right away.",
"role": "user"
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"content": "I mean, let’s make sure it works.",
"role": "assistant"
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| 437 |
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"content": "Just an hour a day? If we really looked at this together. Do you have your phone with you?",
"role": "user"
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{
"content": "Yeah.",
"role": "assistant"
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{
"content": "You want to look?",
"role": "user"
},
{
"content": "Okay.",
"role": "assistant"
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]
| 438 |
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"content": "A digital arena.",
"role": "user"
},
{
"content": "Different arena. Darwin is not going away.",
"role": "assistant"
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{
"content": "What keeps you up at night?",
"role": "user"
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"content": "Well, it’s quite hard to run companies.Especially car companies, I would say. It’s quite challenging.",
"role": "assistant"
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| 439 |
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"content": "Is your concern that one day all your cars will be on the road, and then, there’ll still be regular people with regular cars 20-30 years from now that will get in the mix and be the main problem?",
"role": "user"
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"content": "Yeah. I think it’d be sort of like, you know, there was a time of transition where there were horses and gasoline cars on the road at the same time. It’s been pretty weird.",
"role": "assistant"
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"content": "That would be the weirdest.",
"role": "user"
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"content": "Yeah. I mean, horses were tricky. You know, back when Manhattan had like 300.000 horses, then figure out like if a horse lives 15 years, you got 20,000 horses dropping dead every day or every year, I should say. Every year, it’s 20,000 horses if there are 300,000 horses in a 15-year lifespan.",
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| 440 |
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"content": "It’s marijuana inside of tobacco.",
"role": "user"
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{
"content": "Okay. So, it’s like posh, part tobacco and pot.",
"role": "assistant"
},
{
"content": "Yeah. You ever had that?",
"role": "user"
},
{
"content": "Yeah. I think I tried one once.",
"role": "assistant"
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| 441 |
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"content": "He won. Yeah. He’s a legend. But what it showed – I mean I’m a huge lover of Jujitsu – what it showed is that there is a method for diffusing these situations with technique and knowledge. And I think it’s also a great way to exercise too because it’s almost like the exercise is secondary to the learning of the thing. The exercise is like you want to develop strength and conditioning just so that you could be better at doing the thing. And the analogy that I use is, imagine if you had a race car and you could actually give the race car better handling and more horsepower just from your own focus and effort. That’s really what it’s like.",
"role": "user"
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"content": "Yeah, totally. My kids… I should say, I sent my kids to Jujitsu since they were like, I don’t know, six.",
"role": "assistant"
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{
"content": "Oh, really? That’s awesome. It’s a great thing to learn. It really is.",
"role": "user"
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{
"content": "Yes, seems like a good thing.",
"role": "assistant"
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| 442 |
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"content": "Yeah. When you made a series of tweets recently, I don’t remember the exact wording, but essentially you were saying, “Free America now.” Like, let’s open it back-",
"role": "user"
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"content": "That is the exact wording.",
"role": "assistant"
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"content": "That is it? Thank you. How much do you pay attention to the response to that stuff, and what was the response like? Did anybody go, “Hey man, what the fuck you doing?” Did anybody pull you aside?",
"role": "user"
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{
"content": "Yeah, of course.",
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| 443 |
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"content": "It would work sometimes.",
"role": "user"
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"content": "Yeah, so this deep brain stimulation implanted device is in the brain that has changed people’s lives for the better fundamentally.",
"role": "assistant"
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"content": "Well, let’s talk about what you can talk about to what Neuralink is because the last time you were here, you really couldn’t discuss it. Then there was, I guess, a press release or something that sort of outlined…",
"role": "user"
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{
"content": "Oh yeah, sure.",
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| 444 |
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"content": "What makes you say it’s there? What do you get out of it?",
"role": "user"
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{
"content": "I mean, all the cabinets are like handmade, and they’re like odd shapes, and there’s like doors to nowhere and strange corridors and tunnels and odd paintings on the wall. Yeah.",
"role": "assistant"
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"content": "Did you ever live in it?",
"role": "user"
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{
"content": "It’s very quirky. I did live in it briefly, yeah.",
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| 445 |
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"content": "For real?",
"role": "user"
},
{
"content": "Yes.",
"role": "assistant"
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{
"content": "What are they going to burn?",
"role": "user"
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{
"content": "Nothing. Ultrahigh pressure compressed air.",
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| 446 |
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"content": "Underground magnet roads?",
"role": "user"
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{
"content": "Yeah. Otherwise, you’re going to really create a lot of trouble because there are metal things.",
"role": "assistant"
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{
"content": "Oh. So, magnet road is the way to go, just underground.",
"role": "user"
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"content": "If you want to go really fast underground, you would be maglev in a vacuum tunnel.",
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| 447 |
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"content": "I mean, really, you’re laughing at it, but it can put a huge amount of tension on a mind.",
"role": "user"
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{
"content": "Yes, it can be definitely stressful at times.",
"role": "assistant"
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"content": "Well, how do you know who you can trust in work and personal life?",
"role": "user"
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"content": "I mean, I guess you look at somebody’s track record over time, and I guess you use your neural net to assess someone.",
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| 448 |
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"content": "Discovered.",
"role": "user"
},
{
"content": "Yes.",
"role": "assistant"
},
{
"content": "You think they’ve discovered something.",
"role": "user"
},
{
"content": "That’d be my guess.",
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| 449 |
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"content": "20, 25 years from now? What are we going to be?",
"role": "user"
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"content": "Well, assuming civilization is still around, it’s looking fragile right now. I think we could have…- in 25 years probably, I would think there could be a whole brain interface.",
"role": "assistant"
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"content": "A whole brain interface?",
"role": "user"
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{
"content": "Something pretty close to that. Yeah.",
"role": "assistant"
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| 450 |
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{
"content": "Let’s try it.",
"role": "user"
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{
"content": "It sounds a little concerning.",
"role": "assistant"
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{
"content": "But why?",
"role": "user"
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{
"content": "It’s like running the engine with no resistance. That is-",
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| 451 |
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"content": "61,000 in this country last year.",
"role": "user"
},
{
"content": "Yeah. And we’re only 5% of the world.",
"role": "assistant"
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{
"content": "And then there’s cigarettes.",
"role": "user"
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{
"content": "So, oh man, cigarettes. Cigarettes will really kill you.",
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| 452 |
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"content": "But they’re not as good as yours.",
"role": "user"
},
{
"content": "Right.",
"role": "assistant"
},
{
"content": "And we can maybe make the same argument of cars and everything else. But as a result, that gives you enormous leverage.",
"role": "user"
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{
"content": "Okay.",
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| 453 |
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"content": "Yeah.",
"role": "user"
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"content": "I do think the globalization that we have, sort of like the memesphere, there’s not enough isolation between countries or regions. It’s like if there’s a mind virus that that mind virus cannot infect too much of the world. I actually sort of sympathizing with the anti-globalization people because it’s like, man, we don’t ever want everywhere to be the same for sure. Then we need some kind of mind viral immunity. So that’s a bit concerning.",
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"content": "Mind viral immunity, meaning that once something like Neuralink gets established, the real concern is something that..- I mean, you said it’s Bluetooth, right? Or some future version of that? The idea is that something could possibly get into it, fuck it up.",
"role": "user"
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"content": "No, I’m talking about, like somebody, some cockeyed concept that happens right now.",
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| 454 |
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"content": "Yeah. The things we’ll consider to be flaws of human civilization might be a necessary components for whatever optimal looks like. I mean this, do you worry about AI, AGI enabling a dystopian state of this nature, whether it’s 1984 with surveillance and fear or brave new world with pleasure and what is it? Lots of sex, but no deep human experience.",
"role": "user"
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"content": "There’s actually a real drug called Soma.",
"role": "assistant"
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{
"content": "There is?",
"role": "user"
},
{
"content": "Yes.",
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| 455 |
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"content": "Is that an exception to the whole as we’ve already established?",
"role": "user"
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"content": "No, look, I said I would appoint a new CEO and I did, and it’s my dog. I don’t know what people have against dogs? They’re fine. Dogs are great.",
"role": "assistant"
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"content": "They hate dogs.",
"role": "user"
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"content": "Only dog haters would be opposed to making the dog a CEO.",
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| 456 |
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"content": "Oh, really?",
"role": "user"
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{
"content": "Yeah.",
"role": "assistant"
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"content": "You’ll have to show us that because I don’t like that one. But it’s following the rules, and that’s great. But you have to have the roads at the same thing. I want to make sure that we’ve got this on tape or on whatever, not tape, but video, because I’m guaranteeing you somebody is going to screw up somewhere, and people have to know it’s the road that can bugger the things up as well as your autopilot thing.",
"role": "user"
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"content": "It would certainly be helpful to have roads with accurate markings and everything. But like I said, really, for self-driving, it’s got to be even if somebody tries to trick the car, they do not succeed in tricking the car. Because, you know, people will do weird things, so it’s got to maintain safety no matter what and don’t let yourself get tricked.",
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| 457 |
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"content": "Right, but not bad. Considering like a 911, which is like one of the most popular sports cars of all time. Heavy rear-end bias.",
"role": "user"
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"content": "Well, I mean, yeah. The 911, I’m not going to joke, is like the master despite Newton not being on their side. If you’re fighting Newton, it’s very difficult. The moments of inertia on a 911 don’t make any sense.",
"role": "assistant"
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"content": "They do once you understand them. Once you understand-",
"role": "user"
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"content": "You don’t want to hang the engine off the ass. This is not a wise move.",
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| 458 |
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"content": "Then there’s like, what is the burger? What is a sandwich? And then you start getting as a pizza sandwich. And what is the original? It gets into an ontology argument.",
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"content": "Yeah, but everybody knows if you order a burger or a cheeseburger or whatever, and you get like, you know, tomato, and some lettuce and onions and whatever, mayo and ketchup and mustard, it’s like epic.",
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"content": "Yeah, but I’m sure they’ve had bread and meat separately for a long time, and it was kind of a burger on the same plate. But somebody who actually combine them into the same thing to bite it and hold it makes it convenient. It’s a materials problem. Your hands don’t get dirty and whatever. Yeah, it’s brilliant.\n(inaudible)\nThat is not what I would have guessed.",
"role": "user"
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"content": "But everyone knows, if you order a cheeseburger, you know what you’re getting. It’s not like some obtuse like, “I wonder what I’ll get?” Fries are, I mean, great. I mean, they’re the devil. But fries are awesome. And yeah, pizza is incredible.",
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| 459 |
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"content": "Yes, converting as much thermal and pressure into kinetic energy.",
"role": "user"
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"content": "Yes, exactly. So you have your combustion efficiency, and so what percentage of max theoretical combustion efficiency are you? And then, what’s your nozzle efficiency, which is really…- you know, are you straightening the flow, and shooting the molecules out in a straight line, so that you go in the other direction; Newton’s Third Law.\nWith a traditional combustion chamber, you can get to a very high combustion efficiency because the molecules are all sort of bouncing around in there; they’ve got a time to combine and do their thing. And then, when you sort of choking it through the throat, that gives them sort of more opportunity to combine. So, we think we can probably get to ninety…- certainly 98.5, hopefully, 99 percent of theoretical combustion efficiency. This is so… if God himself came and knitted together the molecules, you’re one percent better. Okay, maybe one and a half percent better. That’s very high efficiency.",
"role": "assistant"
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"content": "Because of full flow staged combustion.",
"role": "user"
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"content": "Full-flow staged combustion, exactly. You’ve got a gas-gas interaction, so you’ve got two hot gases combining. And with a relatively simple reaction – the only thing that would be simpler would be hydrogen. But you’ve got CH4 and O2; that’s pretty simple. You don’t have any long-chain hydrocarbons. With kerosene, you’ve got the long chains, they’ve got to break down, they’ve got to recombine, it’s a total soup, you know. It’s a part-like dinner situation. It’s very hard to get high combustion efficiency with kerosene.\nSo, when you look at, say like, ‚what’s the theoretical value of a lox/kerosene engine, as compared to a methane engine?‘ The kerosene actually looks more compelling than it really is because you can’t achieve the high combustion efficiency with kerosene that you can with methane. So, you actually want to say, ‚what is the actual achievable combustion efficiency times the theoretical chemical energy?‘ That’s the real number, and this is where methane starts to look really good.\nIt’s very hard to get to like 96 percent combustion efficiency, or even 95 percent combustion efficiency with kerosene, but with methane, you can get 98 easy, 99 with a little bit of difficulty.",
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| 460 |
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"content": "Oh, I’ve read about that. Explain that. Like what do you?",
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"content": "Well, like I said, we can’t do the product unveil right here. But, it’s going to do some things that are unfair. When we do the unveil of the Roadster, let me just say that anyone who’s been waiting, they won’t be sorry. They won’t be sorry.",
"role": "assistant"
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"content": "Oh, but sure, well, anything that goes 0 to 60, what is it 1.9? Is that the 0 to 60?",
"role": "user"
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"content": "That’s the base model.",
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| 461 |
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"content": "I know, it makes sense. But thinking of it – I mean, thinking of corporations, and just thinking of just human beings communicating online through these social media networks is some sort of an organism that’s a – It’s a cyborg. It’s a combination of electronics and biology.",
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"content": "Yeah. In some measure, like, it’s to the success of these online systems. It’s sort of a function of how much limbic resonance they’re able to achieve with people. The more limbic resonance, the more engagement.",
"role": "assistant"
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"content": "Whereas, like one of the reasons why probably Instagram is more enticing than Twitter?",
"role": "user"
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"content": "The limbic resonance.",
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| 462 |
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"content": "Right, that’s pretty cheap. ‘Six Billion Dollar Man’.",
"role": "user"
},
{
"content": "Yeah.",
"role": "assistant"
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"content": "The hole would be small. How big would the hole be that you have to drill and then replace with this piece? It’s only one hole?",
"role": "user"
},
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"content": "Well, yeah, the device we’re working on right now is about, it’s about an inch in diameter. Your skull is pretty thick, by the way.",
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| 463 |
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"content": "No, it’s not even something you should want.",
"role": "user"
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{
"content": "Yeah.",
"role": "assistant"
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"content": "Why do you want to look great all the time?",
"role": "user"
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"content": "Yeah, exactly. So, I think, things like that can make people quite sad just by comparison, because you’re sort of…- People generally think of themselves relative to others. It’s like we are constantly re-baselining our expectations. And you can see this, say, if you watch some show like ‘Naked and Afraid’, or, you know, if you just go and try living in the woods by yourself for a while, and you’re like… – they learn that civilization is quite great, it has a lot…- People want to come back to civilization pretty fast on ‘Naked and Afraid’.",
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| 464 |
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"content": "Well, no, but here’s then the question, which is how do you square the support that you have given … I believe you were at a fundraiser for Vivek Ramaswamy, for example, who says that the climate issue is a hoax, right?",
"role": "user"
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"content": "Yeah, I disagree with him on that.",
"role": "assistant"
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"content": "But I would think that that would be such a singular issue for you. I would think that the climate issue would be such a singular issue for you that, actually, it would disqualify almost anybody who didn’t take that issue seriously.",
"role": "user"
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"content": "Well, I haven’t endorsed anyone for president. I wanted to hear what Vivek had to say because I think that some of the things he says, I think, are pretty solid. He’s concerned about government overreach, about government control of information. The degree to which old Twitter was basically a sock puppet of the government was ridiculous. So it seems to me that there’s a very severe violation of the First Amendment in terms of how much control the government had over old Twitter, and it no longer does.\nSo there’s a reason for the First Amendment. The reason for the First Amendment, for freedom of speech, is because the people that immigrated to this country came from places where there was not freedom of speech. And they were like, “You know what? We got to make sure that that’s constitutional,” because where they came from, if they said something, they’d be put in prison or something bad would happen to them. And freedom of speech, you have to say, when is it relevant? It’s only relevant when someone you don’t like can say something you don’t like or it has no meaning. And as soon as you throw in the towel and concede to censorship, it is only a matter of time before someone censors you. And that is why we have the First Amendment.",
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| 465 |
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"content": "Okay. One werewolf and one clock coming up.\nDo you think about your role in the culture? Because me, as a person, who never met you until today, I’ve always looked at you and like, „Wow.“ Like, „How does this guy just keep inventing shit?“ Like, how do you keep coming up with all these new devices? And do you ever consider how unusual — Like I had a dream once that there were a million Teslas. Instead of like one Tesla, there were a million Teslas. Not just say the car but Nikola.",
"role": "user"
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"content": "Oh, yeah, sure.",
"role": "assistant"
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"content": "And that in his day, there were a million people like him who were radically innovative.It was a weird dream, man. It was so strange. And I’ve had it more than once.",
"role": "user"
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{
"content": "That would result in a very rapid technology innovation. That’s for sure.",
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| 466 |
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"content": "Oh, wow.\nAnd about safety, it’s just a man looking out for you.",
"role": "user"
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"content": "There’s just two people kind of paired up, so if like one person collapses, and you’re going to call somebody. But it’d be really hard to drag somebody out, I have to say that. It does not seem safe because the channel gets blocked. Trying to get the (… 50:36) out and unblock that tunnel would be very difficult in a short period of time. But it was the highest paying job at the employment office. So I was like, okay, the other jobs were under $8 an hour, and this one was $18 an hour.",
"role": "assistant"
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"content": "You need to buy your clothes, they’re all gone.",
"role": "user"
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{
"content": "Well, they give you a hazmat suit.",
"role": "assistant"
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| 467 |
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"content": "The following is a conversation with Elon Musk. He’s the CEO of Tesla, SpaceX, Neuralink, and a co-founder of several other companies. This conversation is part of the Artificial Intelligence Podcast. This series includes leading researchers in academia and industry, including CEOs and CTOs of automotive, robotics, AI, and technology companies.\nThis conversation happened after the release of the paper from our group at MIT on driver functional vigilance during use of Tesla’s Autopilot. The Tesla team reached out to me, offering a podcast conversation with Mr. Musk. I accepted with full control of questions I could ask and the choice of what is released publicly. I ended up editing out nothing of substance.\nI’ve never spoken with Elon before this conversation, publicly or privately. Neither he nor his companies have any influence on my opinion, nor on the rigor and integrity of the scientific method that I practice in my position at MIT. Tesla has never financially supported my research, and I’ve never owned a Tesla vehicle, and I’ve never owned Tesla stock.\nThis podcast is not a scientific paper. It is a conversation. I respect Elon as I do all other leaders and engineers I’ve spoken with. We agree on some things and disagree on others. My goal, as always with these conversations, is to understand the way the guest sees the world.\nOne particular point of disagreement in this conversation was the extent to which camera-based driver monitoring will improve outcomes and for how long it will remain relevant for AI-assisted driving. As someone who works on and is fascinated by human-centered artificial intelligence, I believe that, if implemented and integrated effectively, camera-based driver monitoring is likely to be of benefit in both the short term and the long term. In contrast, Elon and Tesla’s focus is on the improvement of Autopilot such that its statistical safety benefits override any concern for human behavior and psychology.\nElon and I may not agree on everything, but I deeply respect the engineering and innovation behind the efforts that he leads. My goal here is to catalyze a rigorous, nuanced and objective discussion in industry and academia on AI-assisted driving, one that ultimately makes for a safer and better world. And now, here’s my conversation with Elon Musk.\nWhat was the vision, the dream, of Autopilot in the beginning? The big picture system level when it was first conceived and started being installed in 2014, the hardware in the cars? What was the vision, the dream?",
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"content": "I wouldn’t characterize it as a vision or dream. It’s simply that there are obviously two massive revolutions in the automobile industry. One is the transition to electrification, and then the other is autonomy. And it became obvious to me that, in the future, any car that does not have autonomy would be about as useful as a horse. Which is not to say that there’s no use; it’s just rare and somewhat idiosyncratic if somebody has a horse at this point. It’s just obvious that cars will drive themselves completely; it’s just a question of time. And if we did not participate in the autonomy revolution, then our cars would not be useful to people, relative to cars that are autonomous. I mean, an autonomous car is arguably worth five to 10 times more than a car which is not autonomous.",
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"content": "In the long term.",
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"content": "Depends what you mean by long term but, let’s say at least for the next five years, perhaps 10 years.",
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"content": "Yeah, they’re calculated. They sneak up on each other and…",
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"content": "I didn’t realize chimps did calculated cruelty. I was pretty… I left that meeting kinda like, whoa, this is dark.",
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"content": "Right. Well, we know better because we’re advanced. But, if we hadn’t, we’d be like, man, I don’t want to live in a house; I like the chimp ways, bro, chimp ways to go, this is it, man, chimp life. You know, we got…",
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"content": "Simple chimp life.",
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"content": "Okay. Let’s talk about the competition here. You’ve shown concern about Google and Microsoft with OpenAI developing AGI. How can you help ensure with xAI and Tesla AI work that it doesn’t become a competitive race to AGI, but that is a collaborative development of safe AGI?",
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"content": "Well, I mean I’ve been pushing for some kind of regulatory oversight for a long time. I’ve been somewhat of a Cassandra on the subject for over a decade. I think we want to be very careful in how we develop AI. It’s a great power and with great power comes great responsibility. I think it would be wise for us to have at least an objective third party who can be like a referee that can go in and understand what the various leading players are doing with AI, and even if there’s no enforcement ability, they can at least voice concerns publicly. Jeff Hinton, for example, left Google and he voiced strong concerns, but now he’s not at Google anymore, so who’s going to voice the concerns? So I think there’s, Tesla gets a lot of regulatory oversight on the automotive front. We’re subject to, I think over a hundred regulatory agencies domestically and internationally. It’s a lot. You could fill this room with the all regulations that Tesla has to adhere to for automotive. Same is true for rockets and for, currently, the limiting factor for SpaceX for Starship launch is regulatory approval.\nThe FAA has actually given their approval, but we’re waiting for fish and wildlife to finish their analysis and give their approval. That’s why I posted I want to buy a fish license on, which also refers to the Monte Python sketch. Why do you need a license for your fish? I don’t know. But according to the rules, I’m told you need some sort of fish license or something. We effectively need a fish license to launch a rocket. And I’m like, wait a second. How did the fish come into this picture? I mean, some of the things I feel like are so absurd that I want to do a comedy sketch and flash at the bottom. This is all real. This is actually what happened.\nOne of the things that was a bit of a challenge at one point is that they were worried about a rocket hitting a shark. And the ocean’s very big, and how often do you see sharks? Not that often. As a percentage of ocean surface area, sharks basically are zero. And so then we said, well, how will we calculate the probability of killing a shark? And they’re like, well, we can’t give you that information because they’re worried about shark fin hunters going and hunting sharks and I said, well, how are we supposed to, we’re on the horns of a dilemma then.\nThey said, well, there’s another part of fish and wildlife that can do this analysis. I’m like, well, why don’t you give them the data? We don’t trust them. Excuse me? They’re literally in your department. Again, this is actually what happened. And then can you do an NDA or something? Eventually they managed to solve the internal quandary, and indeed the probability of us hitting a shark is essentially zero. Then there’s another organization that I didn’t realize existed until a few months ago that cares about whether we would potentially hit a whale in international waters. Now, again, you look the surface, look at the Pacific and say what percentage of the Pacific consists of whale? I could give you a big picture and point out all the whales in this picture. I’m like, I don’t see any whales. It’s basically 0%, and if our rocket does hit a whale, which is extremely unlikely beyond all belief, fate had it, that’s a whale has some seriously bad luck, least lucky whale ever.",
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"content": "I mean this is quite absurd, the bureaucracy of this, however it emerged.",
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"content": "Yes. Well, I mean one of the things that’s pretty wild is for launching out of Vanderberg in California, we had to, they were worried about seal procreation, whether the seals would be dismayed by the sonic booms. Now, there’ve been a lot of rockets launched out of Vandenberg and the seal population has steadily increased. So if anything, rocket booms are an aphrodisiac, based on the evidence, if you were to correlate rocket launches with seal population. Nonetheless, we were forced to kidnap a seal, strap it to a board, put headphones on the seal and play sonic boom sounds to it to see if it would be distressed. This is an actual thing that happened. This is actually real. I have pictures.",
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"content": "And where are you right now?",
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"content": "I’m at the Tesla Giga Texas factory that we’re about to complete. So yeah, what you see behind me is the factory, basically. We have the office space and the factory kind of together. I think this is kind of important that we don’t have ivory tower management or engineering and that the management/engineering is as close to the factory as possible, so you can see what’s going on in the factory and stay grounded.",
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"content": "All right, well, I’m in the ivory tower here with in front of a lot of CEOs and a live audience here in Washington, DC. And we are also joined by lots of people all over the internet; we are streaming this to wsj.com, Twitter, and YouTube. We have a very brief amount of time, only 30 minutes. But I’m very excited to talk about a wide range of things. I want to start with talking about our world, the world we currently live in, then I want to move to the future of the world and then talk a little bit about your world. We’ll start right here in Washington, DC, where everyone is talking about the infrastructure plan and the bill. And I wanted to ask you, say, tomorrow, you get a phone call from Joe Biden, and he says…",
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"content": "(laughs)\nI think that’s unlikely, but sure…",
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"content": "Even someone who has one of the biggest social media and biggest information platforms in the world, you don’t care? You don’t think that you have any… X.com, or… You don’t have any responsibility to the truth or moderating the platform?",
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"content": "You’re conflating the truth with the media and I think the media is not truthful.",
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"content": "Not with just the media, just the truth in general.",
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"content": "I care about the truth very much. That’s why we have, for example, community notes on the X system, where, in order for a community note to surface and provide corrective information about what somebody posts… And my posts are equally subject to this, I’ve been community noted many times. In order for a community note to surface, people who have historically disagreed must agree in order for a community note to surface. And all of the code for community notes is open source, all of the data is open source, so you can completely recreate it from scratch. The way to build trust is transparency.",
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"content": "Okay. I’ll finish with one last question, and then we’ll open it up. What advice do you have for us at Khan Academy?",
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"content": "I don’t know. You guys seem to be doing really great. I was wondering if you had advice for me.",
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"content": "Oh, no, well.",
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"content": "Yeah. It seems like you’re doing an amazing job of… really super leveraged. I mean, obviously, a small team, and you’re having a dramatic effect on…",
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"content": "We have a few –\n(to the audience)\ndon’t take offense.",
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"content": "I mean, how many Ph.D. papers are actually used by someone ever?",
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"content": "That’s a good point.",
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"content": "Percentage-wise, it’s not good. It could have been one of those outcomes where you add some leaves to the tree of knowledge. And that leaf is, nope, it’s not possible. And there goes seven years of my life. That was one path. And I was prepared to do that.\nBut then the internet came along. And it was like, okay, the internet, I’m pretty sure success is one of the possible outcomes, and it seemed like I could either do a Ph.D. and watch the internet happen, or I could participate and help build in some fashion. I was just concerned with the idea of watching it happen. So I decided to put things on hold and start an Internet company. We worked on internet publishing software, maps, and directions, yellow pages, those kinds of things. And we had as investors and customers the media companies like the New York Times Company, Knight-Ridder…",
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"content": "I’m listening.",
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"content": "Yeah. I’m not trying to convince you it’s going to work. Or anyone.",
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"content": "But you’re starting this though. This is actually a project you’re starting to implement. Right?",
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"content": "Yeah, I know. We’ve dug about a mile. It’s quite long. It takes a long time to walk it.",
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"content": "If I was you, I’d be naked, lubed up, watch that video, laugh my ass off. They all blow up. They got wet, and they blew up. That’s not good.",
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"content": "Yeah, we made our battery waterproof, so that doesn’t happen. Actually-",
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"content": "Smart move.",
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"content": "Yeah, there was a guy in Kazakhstan that — I think it was Kazakhstan – that he just boated through a tunnel, an underwater tunnel, like a flooded tunnel, and just turned the wheels to steer, and pressed the accelerator, and it just floated through the tunnel.",
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"content": "…like sort of efficiency here. Because there’s all kinds of computers, CPU, GPU, there’s like basic types of things. And you have to somehow figure out the scheduling across all of those things. And so you’re compiling the code down, that does all…",
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"content": "Yeah.",
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"content": "Okay. So that’s why there’s a lot of people involved.",
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"content": "There’s a lot of hardcore software engineering at a very sort of bare metal level because we’re trying to do a lot of compute that’s constrained to our full self-driving computer. We want to try to have the highest frames per second possible within a sort of very finite amount of compute and power. We really put a lot of effort into the efficiency of our compute. There’s actually a lot of work done by some very talented software engineers at Tesla that, at a very foundational level, to improve the efficiency of compute, and how we use the trip accelerators, which are basically doing matrix math dot products, like a bazillion dot products. It’s like what our neural nets is, like, compute wise, like 99% dot products.",
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"content": "So it takes the physical pain away. But Soma here-",
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"content": "It doesn’t completely, it reduces the amount of pain you feel, but at the expense of mental acuity, it dells your mind. Just like the drug in the book.",
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"content": "Just like the drug in the book, and hence the trade off. The thing that seems like utopia could be a dystopia after all.",
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"content": "Yeah. Actually I was towing a friend of mine saying, “Would you really want there to be no hate in the world? Really none?” I wonder why hate evolved. I’m not saying we should have…\nI wonder why hate evolved. I’m not saying we should amplify hate, of course, I think we should try to minimize it, but none at all. There might be a reason for hate.",
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"content": "Okay, and get rid of everything except clothes?",
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"content": "No, I said almost everything, so it’s like…",
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"content": "Keep a couple of Teslas.",
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"content": "Kind of have to, to test product and stuff. You know, there’s things that have sentimental value, for sure are keeping those. I mean, what’s the worst that could happen? I mean, I’m fine.",
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"content": "I think you probably have regular eyes.",
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"content": "This could be some simulation.",
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"content": "It could. Do you entertain that?",
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"content": "Well, the argument for the simulation, I think, is quite strong because if you assume any improvements at all over time, any improvement, 1%, 0.1%, just extend the time frame, make it a thousand years, a million years. The universe is 13.8 billion years old. Civilization, if you count it, if you’re very generous, civilization is maybe 7000 or 8000 years old if you count it from the first writing. This is nothing. This is nothing.\nSo, if you assume any rate of improvement at all, then games will be indistinguishable from reality, or civilization will end. One of those two things will occur. Therefore, we are most likely in a simulation. Because we exist.",
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"content": "Yes, we’re gross. My nine-year-old daughter yells at me; she goes, “Did you wash your hands?” She makes me go back and wash my hands. She’s right. Nine years old. If I had a nine-year-old boy, do you think he would care? He wouldn’t give a fuck if I washed my hands.",
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"content": "True. And I think that there’s definitely some silver linings here in improved hygiene and-",
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"content": "And awareness of potential.",
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"content": "Yes. I think this has shaken up the system. The system is somewhat moribund with lot of layers of bureaucracy, and I think that we’ve cut through some of that bureaucracy. And at some point, there probably will be a pandemic with a high mortality rate. Debate about like what’s high, but I mean something that’s killing a lot of 20-year-olds, let’s say. Like if you had Ebola type of mortality.",
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"content": "Okay. Over the past year or so since purchasing X, you’ve become more political, is there a part of you that regrets that?",
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"content": "Have I?",
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"content": "In this battle to counter way the woke that comes from San Francisco-",
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"content": "Yeah. I guess if you consider fighting the woke mind virus, which I consider to be a civilizational threat, to be political, then yes.",
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"content": "Oh, I’m not dismissing that. I think there’s so many people, by the way, who are huge supporters of what you’ve created.",
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"content": "There are other satellites out there, you know?",
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"content": "But they’re not as good as yours.",
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"content": "Right.",
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"content": "When you say you like to get things done, like, in terms of what gives you satisfaction? When you complete a project, when something that you invent comes to fruition, and you see people enjoying it, that feeling.",
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"content": "Yes, doing something useful for other people that I like doing.",
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"content": "That’s interesting for other people.",
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"content": "Yes.",
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"content": "And no one’s really paying attention too much, other than people like you or people that are really obsessed with technology. All these things are happening, these robots. Did you see the one where PETA put out a statement that you shouldn’t kick robots?",
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"content": "It’s probably not wise.",
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"content": "For retribution.",
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"content": "Their memory is very good.",
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"content": "And that’s what we’re proposing here with our process. As you can see, a whole lot less is going on here. We get rid of the intermediate. Metal, water, final product cathode, recirculate the water, no wastewater at all. And when you summarize all of that, it’s a 66% reduction in capex investment, a 76% reduction in process costs, and zero wastewater. Much more scalable solution.\nAnd then when you think about the fact that now we’re actually just directly consuming the raw metal nickel powder, it dramatically simplifies the metal refining part of the whole process. So we can eliminate billions in battery grade nickel intermediate production. It’s not needed at all. And we can also use that same process we showed on the previous page to directly consume the metal powder coming out of recycled electric vehicles and grid storage batteries. So this process enables both simpler mining and simpler recycling.\nAnd now that we have this process, obviously we’re going to go and start building our own cathode facility in North America and leveraging all of the North American resources that exist for nickel and lithium. And just doing that, just localizing our cathode supply chain and production, we can reduce miles traveled by all the materials that end up in the cathode by 80%, which is huge for cost.",
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"content": "Yeah. To be clear, cathode production would be part of the Tesla cell production plant. So it would just be basically raw materials coming from the mine, and from raw materials in the mine outcomes a battery.",
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"content": "And on that note, the way the lithium ends up in the cell is through the cathode. So then we should obviously on-site lithium conversion as well, which is what we will do, using a new process that we’re going to pioneer. That’s a sulfate-free process again – skip the intermediate. 33% reduction in lithium cost, a 100% electric facility co-located with the cathode plant.",
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"content": "So it’s important to note that there is a massive amount of lithium on Earth. So lithium is not like oil. There’s a massive amount of it, pretty much everywhere. In fact, there’s enough lithium in the United States to convert the entire United States fleet to electric – all the cars in the United States, like 300 million or something like that. Every vehicle in the United States can be converted to electric using only lithium that is available in the United States.",
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"content": "But you told me you wanted to be asked tough questions. So on Twitter…",
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"content": "What could possibly go wrong?\n(Laughter)",
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"content": "I saw this article. It says you bought something called Twitter and says, Musk puts off lifting Twitter bans. And so obviously, the big deal in Twitter is that it was incredibly poorly managed, this business. But those guys somehow did great for their shareholders by selling it to us, right? But we didn’t buy what they’re selling, we bought something what it’s going to become.",
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"content": "Yes. Most people would say like, given how the market has evolved this year, the price is on the high side.",
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"content": "What happened?",
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"content": "My phone tells the time.",
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"content": "That’s a good point. Well, if you lose your phone? Do you — Wait, hold on.Let me guess; you are a no-case guy.",
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"content": "That’s correct. Living on the edge. Living on the edge without a case.",
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"content": "Clearly. It cost you a lot of money.",
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"content": "Well, fortunately, it didn’t in the trial.",
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"content": "Well, yeah, right. But the SEC, right?",
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"content": "Yes. We’re going to ask for a refund.",
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"content": "Congratulations to her.",
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"content": "Yeah. She’s great at names. I mean, it’s just X, the letter X, and then the Æ is like pronounced ‘ash’. Yeah, and then A-XII is my contribution.",
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"content": "Oh, why A-XII?",
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"content": "Archangel 12\n, the precursor to the SR-71. Coolest plane ever. True.",
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"content": "What are some insights you’ve gained over those five, six years of autopilot about the problem of autonomous driving. So you leaped in having some sort of first principles kinds of intuitions, but nobody knows how difficult the problem…",
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"content": "I thought the self-driving problem would be hard, but it was harder than I thought. It’s not that I thought it’d be easy, I thought it would be very hard, but it was actually way harder than even that. I mean, what it comes down to at the end of the day is to solve self-driving, you basically need to recreate what humans do to drive, which is humans drive with optical sensors, eyes, and biological neural nets.\nThat’s how the entire road system is designed to work: with basically passive optical and neural nets, biologically. So, actually, for full self-driving to work, we have to recreate that in digital form. That means cameras with advanced neural nets in silicon form. And then it will obviously solve for full self-driving. That’s the only way. I don’t think there’s any other way.",
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"content": "But the question is, what aspects of human nature do you have to encode into the machine, right? So you have to solve the perception problem like detect… and then you first realize, what is the perception problem for driving? Like, all the kinds of things you have to be able to see; like, what do we even look at when we drive? I just recently heard Andrej talked about, at MIT, about car doors. I think it was the world’s greatest talk of all time about car doors – you know, the fine details of car doors, like what is even an open car door, man.\nThe ontology of that, that’s a perception problem. We humans solve that perception problem, and Tesla has to solve that problem. And then there’s the control and the planning coupled with the perception. You have to figure out what’s involved in driving, especially in all the different edge cases. I mean, maybe you can comment on this, how much game-theoretic kind of stuff needs to be involved at a four-way stop sign? As humans, when we drive, our actions affect the world, like, it changes how others behave. In most autonomous driving, you’re usually just responding to the scene, as opposed to really asserting yourself in the scene. Do you think…",
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"content": "I think these sort of control logic conundrums are not the hard part. The, you know, let’s see…",
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"content": "Well there we go. We need to touch that before it’s over.",
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"content": "The best interface would be a neural interface directly to your brain. So that would be a neural link.",
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"content": "How far are we, do you think from that, and how excited or scary does that seem to be? And we read these headlines obviously, about monkeys who died, as you know, what should we think about that?",
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"content": "Yeah, actually this is… The USDA inspector who came by Neuralink facilities literally said in her entire career she has never seen a better animal care facility. We are the nicest to animals that you could possibly be, even to the rats and mice, even though they did the plague and everything. So it is like monkey paradise.\nSo the thing that gets conflated is that there were some terminal monkeys, where, this is actually several years ago, where the monkeys were about to die and we’re like, okay, we’ve got an experimental device. It’s a kind of thing which you would only put on a monkey that’s about to die. And then now the monkey died, but it didn’t die because of the Neuralink, it died because it had a terminal case of cancer or something like that.\nNeuralink has never caused the death of a monkey, to the best… Unless they’re hiding something from me, it’s never caused death of a monkey. And in fact, we’ve now had monkeys with Neuralink implants for two, three years and they’re doing great. And we’ve even replaced the Neuralink twice and we’re getting ready to do the first implants, hopefully in a few months. The only implementations of Neuralink I think are unequivocally good. Speaking of the double-edged sword, I think these early implementations are single-edged sword, because the first implementations will be to enable people who have lost the brain-body connection to be able to operate a computer or a phone faster than someone who has hands that work. So you can imagine if Stephen Hawking could communicate faster than someone who had full-body functionality, how incredible that would be. Well, that’s what this device will do, and we should have proof of that in a human, hopefully in a few months.\nIt already works in monkeys and works quite well with monkeys that can play video games just by thinking. So in the next application after dealing with tetraplegics and quadriplegics is going to be vision. Vision is the next thing. So it’s like if somebody has lost both eyes, or the optic nerve has failed, basically where they have no possibility of having some ocular correction. That would be the next thing for Neuralink, is a direct vision interface. And in fact, then you could be like Geordi La Forge from Star Trek. You could see in any frequency, actually you could see in radar if you want.",
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"content": "But these have been up there for a while.",
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"content": "Are they illegal?",
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"content": "They’re not illegal, but they’re hateful and they can lead to violence, as I just read to you. The shooters in all of these mass shootings\n… things attributed social media to radicalizing.",
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"content": "So Don, you love censorship is what you’re saying?",
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"content": "That’s a powerful line to think of it that way because it may very well be error, but if you want to exit the highway, or if it’s a navigation decision that Autopilot’s not currently designed to do, then the driver takes over, how do you know the difference?",
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"content": "Yeah, that’s gonna change with Navigate on Autopilot, which we’ve just released, and without stalk-confirm. Assuming control in order to do a lane change, or exit a freeway, or doing a highway interchange, the vast majority of that will go away with the release that just went out.",
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"content": "Yeah, so that, I don’t think people quite understand how big of a step that is.",
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"content": "Yeah, they don’t. If you drive the car, then you do.",
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"content": "But how do you see Twitter say, five years down the road? What’s your vision for this platform? What should it do?",
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"content": "Well, you know, I have this sort of long-term vision of something called X.com from way back in the day, which is sort of like an everything app where it’s just maximally useful. It does payments, provides financial services, provides information flow, really anything digital. It also provides secure communications. You know, I think [the goal of x.com] is to be as useful as possible, as entertaining as possible, and a source of truth. If you want to find out what’s going on and what’s really going on, then you should be able to go on the X app and find out. So it’s sort of a source of truth and a maximally useful system. And Twitter is essentially an accelerant to that sort of maximally useful everything app.",
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"content": "If you look at Twitter today… I mean, it’s a platform. Sometimes there is a lot of misinformation on Twitter. Sometimes I don’t feel comfortable because there is this negativity between nations, between people, between different ethnic groups – that is the same thing. How are you going to fix this issue where you are in a mission for humanity to get them together?",
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"content": "I think there’s something that we’re putting a lot of effort into called “Community Notes”. It’s currently just in English, but we will be expanding it to all languages. That is, I think, quite a good way to assess the truth of things where it’s the community itself, basically the people of Earth, who are basically not exactly voting but competing to provide the most accurate information. So it’s sort of a competition for truth. I think it’s a very powerful concept to have a competition for truth.\nBecause, like, what is truth? Because what may be true to some, may not be viewed as true to others. But you want to have the closest approximation of that. So I think the Community Notes thing is very powerful. I think we are trying to have as many organizations and people and institutions verified as being legitimately those people and organizations is important, and to have the organizational affiliation clearly identified so that if you want to find out if somebody’s actually… if an account is actually from a member of parliament or a journalist or if let’s say, a Twitter handle actually belongs to, say, Disney corporation or something like that, you can go on Twitter and it’s sort of an identity layer of the Internet. You can confirm that is, in fact, the case.\nI think once you’ve got these interlocking sort of identities, it’s actually very hard to be deceptive in that case. And it’s also, you have a reputation to protect at that point. So I think then people are far more likely to be measured in their response and will be more reasonable since they have reputational value at that point. So these are some of the ideas that I have, and you know I’m not saying that for sure it will succeed or that it’s going to be perfect. But I am confident that it will, over time, head in a good direction. And I think that the evidence for that will be, do people find it useful?\nAs we’re measuring sort of the total user minutes, but not just user minutes, unregretted user minutes, which I think that that’s the key figure of merit. For example, TikTok has a very high usage. But I often hear people say: “Well, I spent two hours on TikTok, but I regret those two hours.” I’m not trying to knock TikTok, but it’s just we don’t want that to be the case with Twitter. We want to say like, ‘okay, you spent half an hour on Twitter, but you found it to be useful and entertaining and a good thing in your life.’ And ultimately be a force for good for civilization – that’s the aspiration.",
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"content": "Yeah, I don’t think so either. I used to think so. And, now, I’m thinking more likely less than ever. Like almost every day less likely.",
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"content": "We can definitely go to the moon and Mars.",
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"content": "Yeah. Do you think we will colonize?",
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"content": "I think we will go to the asteroid belt. And we can go to the moons of Jupiter, Saturn, even get to Pluto.",
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"content": "Yeah, exactly.\nPrecisely. Look at San Francisco, right? Pretty good example with the crime. I was in San Francisco, I don’t know, a decade ago. It was fine. And now I look at it and it’s like, I don’t recognize this place anymore.",
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"content": "Yeah. Really something needs to be done about the crime situation in San Francisco. It’s really .",
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"content": "The area around Twitter’s headquarters especially is like zombie apocalypse is the perfect way to describe it.",
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"content": "Yeah, literally. It’s like people think maybe you’re exaggerating. I’m like, no, you can just definitely come here any day of the week, including 10 in the morning or 2 in the afternoon. We’re not talking midnight stuff. Literally mid-morning driving into Twitter, it looks insane. So people can just come here and see it with their own eyes, it’s next level.",
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"content": "When you sell.",
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"content": "Yes, and I have a bunch of options that are expiring early next year. A huge block of options will sell in Q4 because I have to; they’ll expire. And my top marginal tax rate is 53%.",
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"content": "So you will eventually pay a lot of taxes.",
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"content": "Massive, yeah, I mean, basically majority of what I sell will be tax.",
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"content": "So, at that closest moment of a failure, what did you say to yourself? Can I survive this?",
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"content": "No, I…",
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"content": "You didn’t question yourself.",
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"content": "No. I mean, the difficulty is that in those situations, like there’s so much responsibility that you have to the employees and to the investors who have come along, so I would have been really disappointed if I would not have been able to keep my responsibility to have the company survive.",
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