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"content": "Balenciaga?",
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"content": "Yeah-",
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"content": "Oh, there was one of Joe Biden falling off the airplane. I that one.\nThat was good. You could also add it to the alt description-",
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"content": "Honestly, the best advertising that Balenciaga has ever gotten in their entire which the Harry Potter Balenciaga demon Flying Fox one was genius. That was amazing.",
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"content": "Right, yeah.",
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"content": "Because if you’re pessimistic, it’s going to be miserable.",
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"content": "Yeah. Yeah, nobody wants to be around you anyway if it’s the end of the world. You’re like, „I fucking told you, bro.“",
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"content": "Yeah, exactly.",
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"content": "Whereas, like one of the reasons why probably Instagram is more enticing than Twitter?",
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"content": "The limbic resonance.",
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"content": "You get more images, more video. It’s tweaking your system more.",
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"content": "Yes.",
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"content": "Yeah, literally, under bribes for — He was-",
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"content": "Was this an elected judge?Because sometimes you have a judge that’s like actually a politician.",
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"content": "No, he was an elected judge. This is a very famous story.",
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"content": "Okay.",
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"content": "Hey, boys and girls, we got a special treat for you today. I’ve gotten the opportunity to meet with Mr. Elon Musk, and today we’re going to talk a little bit about his aspirations. We luckily got a tour through the program here at Brownsville. And I just see it says “Boca Chica, Gateway to Mars” (\nshows a bottle with the text on it\n). It’s kind of really exciting. I was really, really happy that I got the chance to see the product that’s being manufactured here, these rockets.\nIt’s spectacular the way they’re doing it, and it’s totally different than anything I’ve seen with rocket production at any other company. With that, I’d like to introduce Mr. Musk, and I guess we’ll… maybe you could answer two questions or actually talk. I’d rather hear from you than talk. I’ve been doing a lot of talking lately, and I’ve had criticisms in the past of, you know…",
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"content": "Were you talking too much in an interview or something?",
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"content": "No, I wasn’t in an interview. It was when I did my reports, and it was what it was. And even on the Model 3 we have, I wanted to show you the gaps which are on one side but not on the other. I don’t understand how that can happen.",
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"content": "But I thought your criticisms were accurate.",
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"content": "Realize you’re fucking Elon Musk. You can do whatever you want, man. If you ever get confused, call me.",
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"content": "I’ll swear in private. Swear up a storm.",
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"content": "Okay, just say fricken. It’s a fun way. It’s like old house moms. Wives and shit that have children, „Oh, this fricken thing.“",
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"content": "Yeah. But, anyway, it’s kind of incredible how well Porsche handles given that it’s the physics. The moments of inertia are so messed up. To actually still make it work well is incredible.",
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"content": "Whoa.",
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"content": "Yeah, it would be pretty weird. I agree. What if there were a million Joe Rogans?",
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"content": "There probably is. There’s probably two million. I mean, I think that’s the case with a lot of folks.",
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"content": "Yeah. I mean, but, like, you know, my goal is, like, try to do useful things, try to maximize the probability for the future’s good, make the future exciting, something you look forward to, you know. You know, with Tesla, I want to try to make things that people love. How many things can you buy that you really love, that really give you joy? So rare, so rare. I wish there were more things. That’s what we try to do. Just make things that somebody loves.That’s so difficult.\nJoe\nRogan\n:\nWhen you think about things that someone loves, like, do you specifically think about like what things would improve people’s experience, like what would change the way people interface with life that would make them more relaxed or more happy? You really think, like, when you’re thinking about things like that, is that like one of your considerations? Like what could I do that would help people that maybe they wouldn’t be able to figure out?\nYeah. Like what are the set of things that can be done to make the future better? I think, a future where we are a space-faring civilization and out there among the stars, this is very exciting. This makes me look forward to the future. This makes me want that future. You know, the things, there need to be things that make you look forward to waking up in the morning. You wake up in the morning, you look forward to the day, you look forward to the future.\nAnd a future where we are a space-faring civilization and out there among the stars, I think, that’s very exciting. That is a thing we want; whereas, if we knew we would not be a space-faring civilization but forever confined to Earth, this would not be a good future. That would be very sad, I think. I don’t want a sad future.",
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"content": "Oh, it’s not. No, it’s not. You would like to think that…",
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"content": "Okay.",
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"content": "… because you’re a super genius. But I, as a normal person, I know there’s people way dumber than me. And they really, really believe. They watch YouTube videos, which go on uninterrupted, and spew out a bunch of fucking fake facts very eloquently and articulately. And they really believe. These people really believe.",
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"content": "I mean, if it works for them, sure. Fine.",
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"content": "What kind of school? Could you describe it to us?",
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"content": "Sure. I mean, it’s small, it’s only got 14 kids now, and it’ll have 20 kids and in September. It’s called ‘Ad Astra’, which means ‘to the stars’. That’s maybe a bit different from most other schools is that there aren’t any grades, there’s no like, grade one, grade two, grade three type of thing. And making all the children go in the same grade at the same time, like an assembly line. You know, because some people love English or languages, some people love math, some people love music, and they have different abilities at different times. It makes more sense to cater the education to match their aptitudes and abilities. Like, that’s one principle.\nAnother is that it’s important to teach problem-solving or teach to the problem, not to the tools. So this would be like, let’s say, you’re trying to teach people about how engines work. A more traditional approach would be to say, we’re going to teach you all about screwdrivers and wrenches, and you’re gonna have a course on screwdrivers, a course on wrenches and all these things. That’s a very difficult way to do it. A much better way would be like, here’s the engine. Now let’s take it apart. How we’re going to take it apart? Oh, you need a screwdriver. That’s what the screwdriver is for. You need a wrench? That’s what the wrench is for. And then the very important thing happens, which is that the relevance of the tools becomes apparent.",
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"content": "So all your five boys in that school?",
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"content": "Yes.",
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"content": "And what do you think, I know we’ve talked about the timeline before, and I know people have criticized you for putting out timelines that may not have come true just yet, but what do you think it really is? And by the way, do you feel, do you ever say to yourself, oh, I shouldn’t have said that?",
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"content": "Sure, of course. Wait, I shouldn’t have said that. So yeah, I’m optimistic about… I think I’m naturally optimistic about time scales, and if I was not naturally optimistic, I wouldn’t be doing the things that I’m doing. I mean, I certainly wouldn’t have sold a rocket company or electric car company if I didn’t have some sort of pathological optimism, frankly.\nSo as you pointed out, many people said that it would fail. And in fact, actually I agreed with them. I said, “Yes, it probably will fail.” And they’re like, “Hmm, okay.” But I thought SpaceX and Tesla had less than a 10% chance of success when we started them. So yeah, anyway. But the self-driving thing is, I’ve been optimistic about it, but we’ve certainly made a lot of progress. If anybody has tried, has been using the sort of full self-driving beta, the progress every year has been substantial.\nIt’s really now at the point where in most places it’ll take you from one place to another with no interventions. And the data is unequivocal that supervised full self-driving is somewhere around four times safer or maybe more, than just a human driving by themselves. So I can certainly see it coming. Actually, really-",
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"content": "But do you think it’s another five or 10 years? I mean, people say-",
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"content": "No, no, no, definitely not. Definitely not.",
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"content": "Yes.",
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"content": "And like the military personnel that I know. They are very honorable, ethical people. And much more honorable and ethical than the average person. That’s my impression.",
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"content": "I agree. That’s my impression as well.",
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"content": "And that’s not to suggest that we be complacent and assume everyone is honest and ethical. And, obviously, if somebody is given a trusted place in society, such as being a police officer or a judge, and they are corrupt, then we must be extra vigilant against such situations and take action. But we should not think that this is somehow broadly descriptive of people in that profession.",
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"content": "I saw this article. It says you bought something called Twitter and says, Musk puts off lifting Twitter bans. And so obviously, the big deal in Twitter is that it was incredibly poorly managed, this business. But those guys somehow did great for their shareholders by selling it to us, right? But we didn’t buy what they’re selling, we bought something what it’s going to become.",
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"content": "Yes. Most people would say like, given how the market has evolved this year, the price is on the high side.",
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"content": "Right. But that’s basically what it is.",
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"content": "But I think there is a tremendous amount of potential that will be very difficult to achieve but possible. And I think, ultimately, it could be one of the most valuable companies in the world.",
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"content": "And how can it be avoided that it is then more a threat for humanity than an opportunity? Is it a question of governance so that there’s not too much power in one or in a few hands? Or how would you make sure that it goes in the right direction?",
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"content": "I think we should have a government oversight just like we do have government oversight and regulation of cars and aircraft and food and pharmaceuticals. These are all – there are regulators that oversee these developments to ensure public safety. And I think digital superintelligence would also be potentially a public safety risk, and so it should be – I think it’s very important for regulators to keep an eye on that.",
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"content": "Who should own the data by then?",
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"content": "I think everyone should own their own data like individuals who own their data. And they certainly shouldn’t be tricked by some terms and conditions of a website, and suddenly you don’t own your data. That’s crazy. Who reads those terms and conditions anyway?\nBut I think it’s just like we wouldn’t let people develop a nuclear bomb in the backyard just for the hell of it, you know. That seems crazy. Digital superintelligence, I think, has the potential to be more dangerous than a nuclear bomb. We should just – somebody should be keeping an eye. We can’t have the inmates running the asylum here.",
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"content": "It’s up up to you. It’s up to you. So we’ll expect that tomorrow.",
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"content": "Do you have any requests on a personal level or you can’t speak on a personal level?",
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"content": "No, I don’t.",
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"content": "Okay. Okay.",
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"content": "And then we’ll be just ridiculous.",
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"content": "Ridiculous.",
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"content": "We will be like this ridiculous biological shitting, pissing thing trying to stop the gods. “No stop. We like living with a finite lifespan and watching, you know, Norman Rockwell paintings.”",
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"content": "It could be terrible, and it could be great. It’s not clear.",
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"content": "It’s just, I mean, once you enjoy the\nDoctor Manhattan\nlifestyle, once you become a god seems very unlikely you’re going to want to go back to being stupid again. I mean, you literally could fundamentally change the way human beings interface with each other.",
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"content": "Yes. You wouldn’t need to talk.",
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"content": "I’m so scared of that, but so excited about it at the same time. Is that weird?",
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"content": "Yeah, I think this is one of the paths to think like what are… Like AI is getting better and better. Now let’s assume it’s sort of like a benign AI scenario. Even in a benign scenario, we’re kind of left behind. We’re not along for the ride. We’re just too dumb.",
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"content": "But did you feel diminished by it in any way? Like knowing that this is a weird thing that you really probably couldn’t commiserate with other people, they wouldn’t understand you.",
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"content": "I hope they wouldn’t find out because they might like to put me away or something.",
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"content": "You thought that?",
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"content": "For a second, yes.",
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"content": "But given that – I mean, one, that’s kind of as epic as one can think about things, literally. How did you make that concrete? How does that turn into SpaceX, Tesla, and PayPal?",
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"content": "Well, so I thought about these things kind of in the abstract. Not from the expectation that I would actually have careers in those arenas. But, I wanted to be involved in at least one of them. At first, I thought the best bet was going to be electric cars. So, the area that I was studying was advanced capacitors, essentially, capacitors that have an engine density exceeding that of batteries. Because they have a very high power density but a low energy density. Maybe you have a lecture to that effect, I don’t know.",
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"content": "Oh, yes, no. We should do that. We’ll get to it later.",
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"content": "Exactly. So obviously, if you could make a capacitor that had anywhere near the energy density of a battery with this incredibly high power density and this quasi-infinite cycle and calendar life, then you’d have an awesome solution for energy storage and mobile applications. So I was going to sort of work on that and try to leverage the equipment that was developed for advanced chip-making and photonics to create ultra-precise capacitors at the molecular level.",
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"content": "Many companies out there have tried to put out these robots, they have been working on them for years. And so far, no one has really cracked it. There’s no mass adoption robot in people’s homes. There are some in manufacturing, but I would say that no one’s kind of really cracked it. Is it something that happened in the development of full self-driving that gave you the confidence to say, you know what, we could do something special here?",
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"content": "Yeah, exactly. So, you know, it took me a while to sort of realize that in order to solve self-driving, you really needed to solve real-world AI. At the point at which you solve real-world AI for a car, which is really a robot on four wheels, you can then generalize that to a robot on legs as well. The two hard parts, I think… like obviously, companies like Boston Dynamics have shown that it’s possible to make quite compelling, sometimes alarming robots. So, from a sensors and actuators standpoint, it’s certainly been demonstrated by many that it’s possible to make a humanoid robot.\nThe things that are currently missing are enough intelligence for the robot to navigate the real world and do useful things without being explicitly instructed. So, the missing things are basically real-world intelligence and scaling up manufacturing. Those are two things that Tesla is very good at. We basically just need to design the specialized actuators and sensors that are needed for humanoid robot. People have no idea. This is going to be bigger than the car.",
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"content": "Let’s dig into exactly that. I mean, in one way, it’s actually an easier problem than full self-driving because instead of an object going along at 60 miles an hour, which if it gets it wrong, someone will die, this is an object that’s engineered to only go at what, three or four or five miles an hour.",
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"content": "Yeah, walking speed, basically.",
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"content": "In the next half hour or so, we’re going to spend some time exploring your vision for what an exciting future might look like, which I guess makes the first question a little ironic: Why are you boring?",
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"content": "I ask myself that frequently. We’re trying to dig a hole under LA, and this is to create the beginning of what will hopefully be a 3D network of tunnels to alleviate congestion. So right now, one of the most soul-destroying things is traffic. It affects people in every part of the world. It takes away so much of your life. It’s horrible. It’s particularly horrible in LA.",
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"content": "I think you’ve brought with you the first visualization that’s been shown of this. Can I show this? (shows animation)",
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"content": "Absolutely. So, this is the first time. Just to show what we’re talking about. A couple of key things that are important in having a 3D tunnel network. First of all, you have to be able to integrate the entrance and exit of the tunnel seamlessly into the fabric of the city. By having an elevator – sort of a car skate, that’s on an elevator – you can integrate the entrance and exits to the tunnel network just by using two parking spaces. And then the car gets on a skate. There’s no speed limit here, so we’re designing this to be able to operate at 200 kilometers an hour.",
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"content": "It almost doesn’t really count as a podcast.",
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"content": "It’s more like an audiobook.",
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"content": "Yeah. So you were on the podcast with Dan; I just had a chat with him about it. He said, you guys went military and all that kind of stuff?",
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"content": "Yeah. It was basically… I think it should be titled ‘engineer wars’. Essentially, when there’s a rapid change in the rate of technology, then engineering plays a pivotal role in victory in battle.",
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"content": "Okay.\nHave I been invited?",
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"content": "We’re clearly a well-oiled machine here.",
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"content": "Ah. I think I’m in.",
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"content": "You’re in. Okay.",
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"content": "And a generalization of that, what is the worst perspective I can take on a thing that happened?",
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"content": "I don’t know. There’s just a strong negative bias in the news. I mean, I think a possible explanation for this is evolutionary, where bad news, historically, would be potentially fatal, like there’s lion over there or there’s some other tribe that wants to kill you. Good news, we found a patch of berries. It’s nice to have, but not essential.",
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"content": "Our old friend, Tesla autopilot, is probably one of the most intelligent real world AI systems in the world.",
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"content": "You followed it from the beginning.",
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"content": "That’s right.",
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"content": "That’s education.",
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"content": "So with that… and I apologize to all of you guys for hogging up all of the time, because, obviously, I could talk for hours about this stuff. But we do have time, probably 5 or 10 minutes, for a handful of questions. If none of you all have any, I have about nine more. But, yes.\nSpeaker A:\nI noticed… I picked up two kinds of themes from what you were discussing. One was somewhat audacious goals. And the other was I don’t think I heard you use the word profit in anything that you spoke about. Each thing is pointed at, like re-invigorating an industry or bringing back space missions. How much of your success do you attribute to having really audacious goals or versus just not being focused on the short term, money coming in, or I don’t know, investors?",
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"content": "Unfortunately, one does have to be focused on the short time and money coming in when creating a company because otherwise, the company will die. So I think that a lot of times people think creating a company is going to be fun. I would say it’s really not that fun. I mean, there are periods of fun. And there are periods where it’s just awful.\nAnd, particularly, if you’re the CEO of the company, you actually have a distillation of all the worst problems in the company. There’s no point in spending your time on things that are going right. So you’re only spending your time on things that are going wrong. And there are things that are going wrong that other people can’t take care of. So you have like the worst. You have a filter for the crappiest problems in the company. The most pernicious and painful problems. So I think you have to feel quite compelled to do it. And have a fairly high pain threshold.\nThere’s a friend of mine who says starting a company is like staring into the abyss and eating glass. And there’s some truth to that. The staring into the abyss part is that you’re going to be constantly facing the extermination of the company. Because most start-ups fail. It’s like 90%, it could be 99% of start-ups fail. So that’s the staring into the abyss part. You’re constantly saying, “Okay, if I don’t get this right, the company will die,” which can be quite stressful. And then the eating glass part is you’ve got to work on the problems that the company needs you to work on and not the problems you want to work on. And so you end up working on problems that you really wish you weren’t working on. And so that’s the eating glass part. And that goes on for a long time.\nSpeaker A:\nSo how do you keep your focus on the big picture when you’re constantly faced with, we could be out of business in a month?\nWell, it’s just a very small percentage of mental energy is on the big picture. Like, you know where you’re generally heading for, and the actual path is going to be some sort of zigzaggy thing in that direction. You’re trying not to deviate too far from the path that you want to be on, but you’re going to have to that to some degree. But I don’t want to diminish the… I think the profit motive is a good one if the rules of an industry are properly set up.\nThere’s nothing fundamentally wrong with profit. In fact, profit just means that people are paying you more for whatever you’re doing than you’re spending to create it. That’s a good thing. And if that’s not the case, then you’ll be out of business. And rightfully so. Because you’re not adding enough value. Now there are cases, of course, where people will do bad things in order to achieve profit, but that’s actually quite unusual. Because usually, the rules are set up mostly correctly. Like not completely, but mostly correctly.",
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"content": "If there was one, how, if it was like maybe an intelligent being that we created, you know, like some A.I. creature that’s superior to people, maybe just hang around with us for a little while, like you’ve been doing, and then fix a bunch of shit. Maybe that’s the way.",
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"content": "I might have some mutation or something like that.",
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"content": "5%? That’s a good chunk.",
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"content": "It’s a good chunk. Yeah.",
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"content": "We were talking about that last time, and you were trying to figure out when it was actually going to go live when it’s actually going to be available. Are you testing on people right now?",
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"content": "No, we’re not testing on people yet, but I think it won’t be too long. I think we may be able to implant a neural link in less than a year in a person, I think.",
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"content": "Two years ago, we had a conversation with Jack Ma, and we spoke about Jeff Bezos’s plans with regard to orbit, and he said, well, let Jeff Bezos take care of the orbit, I take care of the Earth. You seem to take care of both.",
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"content": "Yeah, basically, Tesla is about to try to make sure that things are good for the future on Earth, and then SpaceX is about a good future beyond Earth, basically. And so obviously, we have to have sustainable energy both consumption and production of energy. Like Tesla does solar panels and batteries. I think that’s one of the keyways to have sustainable energy generation, and also the batteries are useful for wind power. And then you need to consume that via (… 15:37) by electric vehicles. I look at these things, say, if you look back from the future and say what’s the fundamental good of Tesla, I would say it probably should be assessed by how many years did Tesla accelerate the advent of sustainable energy. That’s how I would measure the goodness of Tesla in that way. And then for SpaceX, it’s like, okay, to what degree did we improve the probability of humanity to be a space-faring civilization.",
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"content": "I remember very well the year 2014 when we were hosting the Golden Steering Wheel here at Axel Springer, and you got the award for lifetime achievement. And I was sitting in the first row with the then very successful and famous CEO of a very big German car company. I asked him while you were on stage, ‚Isn’t this guy dangerous for you? I mean, this looks really serious.‘ And he said, ‚Oh no, don’t worry. First of all, the whole idea of electric driving is never going to be a mass market. Second, these guys in Silicon Valley, they have no clue about engineering and about building really beautiful and great cars. So we don’t have to worry.‘ By then, Tesla’s market cap was 23 billion, today it’s 536 billion US dollars. The market cap of VW then was 86, and today it’s 77. And you are with Tesla two and a half times bigger than BMW, VW, and Daimler.",
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"content": "I even said the stock is too high. So, what am I supposed to do? The stock is too high. A long time, when it was like at 800 dollars pre-split, but they don’t listen to me, you know, I tell you. And SEC is complaining again.",
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"content": "Right but as I say, taking a picture is revealing where someone is. It could be in concert and take a picture of lights of people and then tweet it.",
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"content": "If you can’t recognize them, then it’s not a thing.",
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"content": "I think it was clarified where they would say that if it was a public event, like a concert or say a political rally or whatever, that’s a public space rather than somebody’s traveling. I think there’s the distinction there.\nYeah, it’s not someone’s house. If you’re going to somebody’s house and you’re taking a photo of it saying JK Rowling, several people have harassed her at her house, that would be doxing and they have been gotten rid of. So I don’t know where the question is here, James.\nIt was actually a question I’ve got texted to me. It wasn’t on my list. Let’s move on. To be honest, I’m done.",
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"content": "Well, he had a cynical take. He could be just a brave explorer and there’ll be great stories told about him amongst the penguin population for many centuries to come. What were we talking about? Okay.",
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"content": "Yeah. So aliens, I mean, I don’t know. Look, I think the smart move is just this is the first time in the history of earth that it’s been possible for life to extend beyond earth. That window is open. Now it may be open for a long time or it may be open for a short time and it may be open now and then never open again. So I think the smart move here is to make life multiplanetary while it’s possible to do so. We don’t want to be one of those lame one planet civilizations that just dies out.",
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"content": "No, those are lame.",
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"content": "Yeah. Lame. Self-respecting, civilization would be one planet.",
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"content": "And it’s cool that it’s connected to Tesla, the car.",
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"content": "Yeah, it’s using a lot of… it would use the autopilot inference computer and a lot of the training that we’ve done for cars in terms of recognizing real-world things could be applied directly to the robot. But there’s a lot of custom actuators and sensors that need to be developed.",
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"content": "And an extra module on top of the vector space for love. That’s missing. Okay…",
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"content": "We could add that to the car, too.",
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"content": "There’s two major wars going on right now. So you talked about the threat of AGI quite a bit, but now as we sit here with the intensity of conflict going on, do you worry about nuclear war?",
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"content": "I think we shouldn’t discount the possibility of nuclear war. It is a civilizational threat. Right now, I could be wrong, but I think the current probability of nuclear war is quite low. But there are a lot of nukes pointed at us, and we have a lot of nukes pointed at other people. They’re still there. Nobody’s put their guns away. The missiles are still in the silos.",
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"content": "And the leaders don’t seem to be the ones with the nukes talking to each other.",
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"content": "No, there are wars which are tragic and difficult on a local basis. And then there are wars which are civilization ending or has that potential. Obviously, global thermonuclear warfare has high potential to end civilization, perhaps permanently, but certainly to severely wound and perhaps set back human progress to the Stone Age or something. I don’t know. Pretty bad. Probably scientists and engineers want to be super popular after that as well. You got us into this mess. So generally, I think we obviously want to prioritize civilizational risks over things that are painful and tragic on a local level, but not civilizational.",
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"content": "You get more images, more video. It’s tweaking your system more.",
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"content": "Yes.",
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"content": "Do you worry or wonder, in fact, about what the next step is? I mean, a lot of people didn’t see Twitter coming; you know, communicate with a 140 characters or 280 now, would be a thing that people would be interested in. Like it’s going to excel, it’s going to become more connected to us, right?",
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"content": "Yes, things are getting more and more connected. They’re at this point constrained by bandwidth. Our input/output is slow, particularly output. Output got worse with thumbs. You know, we usesd to have input with ten fingers; now, we have thumbs. But images are just, also, another way of communicating at high bandwidth. You take pictures, and you send pictures to people. That communicates far more information than you can communicate with your thumbs.",
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"content": "If you think about also how this affects your competitors, is that impact how some of your views on this?",
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"content": "Um, I mean, maybe they need it, I don’t know. But I think just generally, I’m in favor of deleting subsidies. I mean, when we started Tesla, there were no EV subsidies at all, and gasoline was super cheap. We did not anticipate any subsidies. That came later. And the $7,500 tax credit came as a result not of Tesla activity but of General Motors lobbying for it. So, you know, I would just say, just delete them all.",
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"content": "Alright. But there’s some other good things in this bill, some would argue. I mean, a lot of money you’re marked for R&D. Would you want to put that toward something?",
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"content": "No.",
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"content": "Okay. We’re going to have questions from the audience because there’s a lot of great questions.\nHey Elon. I’m Ronan Levy from ‘field trip’. We spent a lot of time talking about outer Space, and I want to ask you about inner Space. And the question specifically is, do you spend time thinking about humanity’s somewhat destructive tendencies before sending people to Mars? And, specifically, you’ve talked about the subject of DMT, and curious to know what role you think psychedelics may have in addressing some of the more destructive tendencies of humanity.\nWe’re going to talk about this tomorrow.",
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"content": "Okay. Um, I think generally, people should be open to psychedelics. Yeah. A lot of people making laws are kind of from a different era. So I think as the new generation gets into political power, we will see greater receptivity to the benefits of psychedelics.",
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"content": "Are humanity’s tendencies right now concerning, like, above, before we go to Mars?",
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"content": "I mean, humanity’s tendencies… I mean, we are at a very peaceful moment in history. So you gotta separate the sort of news headlines from the reality. I think like Steven Pinker at Harvard has really pointed this out, like, we’re actually at the lowest violence per capita in human history. It may not seem like that, but objectively those are the statistics.\nIt’s not to say there’s no violence or there aren’t things to be improved, but it’s actually quite good. Big picture-wise, I think we want to take the set of actions that maximize the probability that the future is good and that civilization continues, and that the sort of small candle of consciousness in the void that is humanity continues and that the candle does not go out.",
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"content": "The study from the Institute of Strategic Dialogue found that anti-Semitic tweets doubled from June ’22 to February 2023. One study reported that as many as 86% of the posts reported for hateful content remained up after being reported. Hate speech on the platform is up.",
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"content": "What they will typically do is they’ll count the number of posts but not count the number of views. What matters is, was that post given high visibility or did one person see it? And if you look at the number of views, how many times was hate content viewed on our platform, it is down substantially.",
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"content": "Yeah. That’s not what the study shows. And you said you like transparency. I’m going to show you this and-",
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"content": "Don, you can get a study that we will tell you whatever you want.",
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"content": "Okay, it’s fascinating. Thank you. Our time is almost over. Let us just finish off with just a couple of very, very short questions and very short answers. Do you still plan to go to Mars? Personally?",
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"content": "I would like to go to Mars. The reason for SpaceX is not, you know – if I go to Mars, that’s nice to have but what is important is that we establish a self-sustaining city on Mars. This is important for the long-term future of humanity or consciousness as we know it. And so it’s less first about a few people to Mars but more about creating a self-sustaining city on Mars and humanity becoming a spacefaring civilization, which I think is incredibly inspiring for the future.",
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"content": "Thank you. And very last question. You said you like Germany. For what reasons do you like Germany?",
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"content": "I don’t know. I’ve always had a good time when I come here.",
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"content": "This is funny mode. This is this fun mode.",
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"content": "This should be funnier.",
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"content": "Funnier. Increase, go to level.",
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"content": "It really sounds like a hostage with a gun to the head. I applaud the People’s Republic of North Korea in everything they do.",
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"content": "When we first met, I think you were just about to deliver your first Roadster. I don’t think you had yet. Larry Page was still waiting to get one.",
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"content": "Yeah, that’s a bit like 2007.",
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"content": "2007, 2008. And I remember-",
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"content": "Roadster was a little bit 2008.",
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"content": "Understood, thanks.\nWhat about fact-checking? And, you know, fighting misinformation?",
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"content": "Yeah, I’m super excited by the\ncommunity notes\nfeature formerly known as\nbirdwatch\n.\nBirdwatch\nsounded a bit too much like “we’re watching you”. I’m like, no, let’s just be chilled\ncommunity notes\n. And, actually, that was the original name of the product. It’s awesome. And we’re gonna really go pedal to the metal on the community notes. The way it works, I think, is actually very exciting. In fact, if Keith not on but maybe he is, but I highly recommend looking at the Community Notes feature, it’s epic.\nThis is really going to help in improving the accuracy of what’s said on a system. It’s analogous to the way sort of page rank works in Google, where the prominence of a web page is proportionate to how much weight other prominent web pages give that webpage. If you just search\nbirdwatch\nor\ncommunity notes\non Twitter, you’ll see how it works. I think it’s a game-changer, in my view.",
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"content": "Okay, great. I’m just getting a ton of questions as well, Elon. This one is specifically about the auto industry, which, you know, you happen to be a member of as well.",
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"content": "I know a little bit about cars.",
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"content": "I’m on board. Fuck motors. Dude, fuck regular motors.",
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"content": "The S, X, and 3 have the lowest probability of injury of any cars ever tested by the US government.",
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"content": "Whoa.",
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"content": "So, this — Yeah, but it’s pretty fun. It’s pretty crazy. You know, people still sue us like they’ll have some accident at 60 miles an hour where they’d twisted an ankle, and they sue us. Like, they will be dead in another car, they still sue us.",
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"content": "It depends who’s hosting the party.",
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"content": "I mean, most parties, let’s say. If you meet people in person, how much hate speech do you actually encounter? It’s quite rare. But if someone can create 1,000, 10,000 or 100,000 troll accounts that are anonymous, and where there’s no cost to engaging in harassment or hateful behavior, then you’ll get a very small number of people that seem very loud. In general, I have a lot of faith in humanity, like the vast majority of people, I think, are good, not bad, they’re good. But there’s a small number of people who are not good.\nAnd if those people who want to engage in terrible behavior are allowed to amplify their voice tremendously with fake accounts, then they will do so. This is why I think that the only way for any social media company to solve this is with a mild paywall – a paywall for prominence. And that people will just default to looking at comments and mentions from those that are verified. And you really won’t see much of the rest. I think it’s the only solution. I cannot think of any other path to having a good system.",
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"content": "Thank you. I’m also going to ask Yoel, you’ve sent a bunch of great tweets out recently. Can you just speak to where we stand with policies but also the facts around what we’re seeing on the platform today in terms of toxicity?\nAbsolutely. So first, to again echo Elon, our policies have not changed, and our enforcement continues to be focused on being as proactive as we can do to mitigate harm to the people who are using Twitter. There have definitely been a couple of areas where we have seen people test the limits of what the new Twitter is, even though we haven’t really changed anything at all. One of the most notable being a spike in hateful conduct on our platform. And I’m going to be sharing another update on this in just a little while.\nBut we’ve been focused on protecting the folks who are using our platform, on shutting down hateful conduct wherever it emerges on our platform. And what we’ve seen is not only that we’ve put a stop to the spike in hateful conduct, but that the level of hateful activity on the service is now about 95%, lower than it was before the acquisition. The changes that we’ve made and the proactive enforcement that we’ve carried out are making Twitter safer relative to where it was before. And so my ask of everyone would be, judge us by our results. And the results, the proof that we’re going to be sharing, the data that I’m going to continue to provide, shows us that we’re going to keep investing and making Twitter safer for everyone every day and in delivering on that vision of creating a welcoming platform that Elon talked about.\nThanks. So, I want to bring up David Cohen, who is the CEO of the IAB, the\nInteractive Ad Bureau\n, which is, as we all know, one of the governing bodies of our ad industry, and he’s a very trusted name and partner. Given this is such an important topic, David, what can we answer for you?\nAppreciate that, thank you. I would just want to start by saying that we are rooting for you and for Twitter. So at the risk of that not being obvious. This is not a softball question, and it’s something that we’re hearing from many of our members. So I thought it’d be a good time to ask. We all have a brand. There is the Elon brand and how it shows up on Twitter. And there is Twitter as a platform and business that the world and the marketing community have come to know and love. Those two things can sometimes blur. So the question is, how should we think about the coexistence of those two distinct but obviously related perspectives?",
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"content": "Right. Well, I think if I say that Twitter is doing something, that I mean Twitter, and if I say I, that I mean me. And if there’s any confusion about the two, then just ask me on Twitter, basically. But obviously, Twitter cannot simply be some extension of me because then anyone who doesn’t agree with me will be put off. So Twitter must be as a platform as neutral as possible. That doesn’t mean I am completely neutral. That would be untruthful, I am not neutral. No person is. But it’s important for to have broad acceptance that the platform be neutral and as inclusive as possible to the widest demographic possible. That is the only path to success.",
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"content": "I don’t know if the other guys do. I think Whole Mars blog is here. Maybe he has some questions.\nI had one question about Twitter. Elon, on some media had been reporting today that Twitter bought 10,000 GPUs for some type of generative AI project, and I also noticed that on Twitter there were a couple of people who mentioned working at AI infrastructure, the super computing team at both Tesla and Twitter. I was wondering if you could share anything with us about what Twitter’s working on there and if there’s maybe any synergies, maybe Twitter using Dojo or something like that, or what exactly is going on with this project?",
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"content": "Well, it seems like everyone and their dog is buying GPUs at this point. It’s kind of getting to the point where you’re going to have to buy GPUs in a back alley. So there’s certainly a lot of people buying GPUs. Twitter and Tesla are certainly buying GPUs and we’re also working on Dojo. So I think there’s a lot of potential there with Dojo that people don’t realize.",
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"content": "Actually I do have a question and well, I guess people keep DMing me. They’re wondering what’s the future of the Twitter files? Do you still have any journalists working on these things or no?",
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"content": "Yeah, at a certain point we need to move on from the Twitter files, but I think there’s a few things left, but generally I think there’s not a lot that I’m aware of that’s left. So it’s mostly just like, let’s just move on to the future.",
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"content": "But what’s like the ultimate… – What’s the idea behind it, like, what are you trying to accomplish with it? Like, what would you like best case scenario?",
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"content": "I think, best case scenario, we effectively emerge with A.I. where A.I. serves as a tertiary cognition layer. We’ve got the limbic system – kind of the primitive brain essentially. You’ve got the cortex. So, you’re currently in a symbiotic relationship. Your cortex and limbic system are in a symbiotic relationship. And generally, people like their cortex, and they like their limbic system. I haven’t met anyone who wants to delete their limbic system or delete their cortex. Everybody seems to like both.\nAnd the cortex is mostly in service to the limbic system. People may think that their thinking part of themselves is in charge, but it’s mostly their limbic system that’s in charge. And the cortex is trying to make the limbic system happy. That’s what most of that computing power is oriented towards. How can I make the limbic system happy? That’s what it’s trying to do.\nNow, if we do have a third layer, which is the A.I. extension of yourself, that is also symbiotic. And there’s enough bandwidth between the cortex and the A.I. extension of yourself, such that the A.I. doesn’t de facto separate. Then that could be a good outcome. That could be quite a positive outcome for the future.",
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"content": "So, instead of replacing us it will radically change our capabilities.",
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"content": "Yes. It will enable anyone who wants to have superhuman cognition. Anyone who wants. This is not a matter of earning power because your earning power would be vastly greater after you do it. So, it’s just like, anyone who wants can just do it in theory. That’s the theory. If that’s the case and, let’s say, billions of people do it, then the outcome for humanity will be the sum of human will. The sum of billions of people’s desire for the future.",
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"content": "You’re a father, a proud father. What have you learned about life from your kids? Those little biological organisms.",
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"content": "I mean, developing AI and watching, say, little X grow is fascinating because there are far more parallels than I would’ve expected. I mean, I can see his biological neural net making more and more sense of the world. And I can see the digital neural net making more and more sense of the world at the same time.",
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"content": "Do you see the beauty and magic in both?",
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"content": "Yes. I mean, one of the things with kids is that you see the world anew in their eyes. To them, everything is new and fresh. And then, when you see that, them experiencing the world as new and fresh, you do too.",
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"content": "To who?",
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"content": "This was for a friend.",
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"content": "Tell that friend to go fuck himself. Who told you not to swear?",
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"content": "A friend.",
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"content": "Yeah. Those moments of enjoying a great meal. And then even talking about it, they’re valuable. They’re worth something. Yeah. We don’t want to eat\nSoylent Green\nand live to be 160.",
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"content": "No. Tasty food is great; it’s one of the best things about life.",
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"content": "It really is. Yeah. It’s an art form as well. It’s like fine food, it’s a delicious sandcastle. It’s temporary. It doesn’t last very long. But there’s something about it that’s very pleasing.",
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"content": "Yeah. I don’t know what advice to give, maybe having tasty food but smaller amounts of it.",
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"content": "How far are we away from that genie being out of the bottle, do you think, or you think it’s already out?",
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"content": "The genie is certainly poking its head out.",
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"content": "The AGI, the idea of artificial general intelligence, given what you now are working on yourself, and you know how easy or hard it is to train, to create the inferences, to create the weights, I hope I’m not getting too far in the weeds of just how this works, but those are the basics behind the software end of this.",
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"content": "It’s funny, all these weights, they’re just basically numbers in a common separated value file, and that’s our digital god, the CSP file. I found that funny, but that’s literally what it is. So I think it’s coming pretty fast.",
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"content": "Who has said he doesn’t really believe in climate change, and there’s a lot of people out there who think you shouldn’t be doing that. They’d like you to walk away from that. What would you say to them?",
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"content": "Well, I think that first of all, I’m just on two advisory councils where the format consists of going around the room and asking people’s opinion on things, and so there’s like a meeting every month or two. That’s the sum total of my contribution.\nBut I think to the degree that there are people in the room who are arguing in favor of doing something about climate change or social issues, — I’ve used the meetings I’ve had thus far to argue in favor of immigration and in favor of climate change. (Applause) And if I hadn’t done that, that wasn’t on the agenda before. So maybe nothing will happen, but at least the words were said.",
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"content": "Okay. So, let’s talk SpaceX and Mars. Last time you were here, you spoke about what seemed like a kind of incredibly ambitious dream to develop rockets that were actually reusable. And you’ve only gone and done it.",
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"content": "Finally. It took a long time.",
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"content": "What is that like?",
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"content": "I don’t know what would happen if I got into a sensory deprivation tank.",
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"content": "Let’s try it.",
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"content": "It sounds a little concerning.",
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"content": "So-",
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"content": "That substrate is probably boring.",
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"content": "Yes.",
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"content": "Replies though on social media or on Twitter are not necessarily fact and evidence. That’s people’s opinion.",
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"content": "They will cite the replies. In the replies to this, you’ll see how often the information cited showing that indeed there are significant cases where standards are lowered.",
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"content": "And I do hope that happens. I do hope that happens and I look forward to it. And as you said, if you’re wrong, then you’re wrong. And if I’m wrong, then I’m wrong. Okay. And I am glad we’re having this conversation debating this, this is what we should be doing debating the issue. So if I’m wrong, then I’m wrong, and then there’ll be proven in the thing in you as well. But I just want to tell you that that pilot that you talked about, in fact was a woman pilot landed the plane safely despite the major found malfunction with the equipment, Boeing has taken responsibility for that incident saying that it was caused by faulty door panel. So I’m not sure what that had to do with lowering the standards for pilots when it was a faulty-",
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"content": "No, it’s not lowering standards for pilots. The incentive structure I believe at Boeing changed to include DEI as a fundamental executive incentive, but in my view, it should be purely about passenger safety.",
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"content": "All right, let’s talk about something else.",
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"content": "You weren’t expecting that.\nAll right, here we go.",
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"content": "Can I join it?",
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"content": "I believe you can.",
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"content": "Yeah, I guess radiation is one of the words that can be used as the tool to fear monger by certain people. That’s it.",
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"content": "I think people just don’t understand.",
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"content": "I mean, that’s the way to fight that fear, I suppose, is to understand, is to learn.",
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"content": "Yeah, just say like, “Okay, how many people have actually died from nuclear accidents?” It’s like practically nothing. And say, “How many people have died from coal plants?” And it’s a very big number. So, obviously, we should not be starting up coal plants and shutting down nuclear plants. It just doesn’t make any sense at all. Coal plants like, I don’t know, 100 to 1000 times worse for health than nuclear power plants.",
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"content": "Yeah, sorry, I’m Ian; I lead the robotics program here.\nRobot is a man’s best friend. Alright, next question is, “What is the most challenging problem that must be solved in order to meet Neuralink’s ultimate goal?”",
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"content": "Well, I think one of the hardest problems is kind of I’d say material science and especially the installation of the electrodes. What would you say?",
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"content": "Yeah, absolutely. I’m Felix Deku. I currently lead the microfabrication team. My team makes up of a group of process engineers and material scientists. And our job is to make the tiny wires – like Elon referred to them – or we call it threads, that are implanted in the brain. And of course, the threads are made of conductors and insulators, and choosing the right material that is amenable to the brain and compatible with the brain is something that our team has expertise in, and we work seriously on interface engineering, just to make sure that our layers are actually well thought through, well designed. At the end of the day, when we implant this right, they’ll be actually functional for either reading or for writing in the brain.",
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"content": "Yeah, I think it’s going to be important in terms of material science problems, is making sure that the threads so the electrodes, can last for decades in the brain, which is a tricky thing because it’s a very corrosive environment and you’re in a dichotomy where you want to read, and you want to send electrical signals, and you want to generate electrical signals. But you don’t want to corrode the electrodes over time.\nSo, you need to have an insulating layer that is very robust but also very, very thin. It has to be just the right amount of insulation, and it has to stay that amount of insulation over time. So that’s why we think probably like a silicon carbide type insulator is probably the best long term from a material science standpoint. But silicon carbide is tough material to work with. But that’s probably the right choice long-term. Would you say?",
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"content": "I like that.",
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"content": "Yeah. I mean, we improved the interface for Missile Command because it’s too hard with the old trackball. So, this is a touch screen version of Missile Command. So, you have a chance.",
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"content": "Do you — You have an old car, don’t you? Don’t you have an old Jaguar?",
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"content": "Yeah. How do you know that? I have a ’61 series 1 E-Type Jaguar.",
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"content": "Okay, next, over here.\nHello, my name is Lena, I’m a student at the University of Chicago, and I also have a podcast called “Kinda Sorta Brown”. So my question centers a little bit what you talked about, concerning that, you know, you’re building this world for not enough people yet, but the people that now are here. But concerning young people, how do you actually build infrastructure to make sure that you’re not just building resources for people to be on Mars but actually putting them in positions of power politically?\nOr educating people who don’t have access to learn about Space technology, etc.? How do you actually teach young people and bring them in, and do you feel like that’s your role? Or it’s your role to just build the spaceship to Mars?",
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"content": "Well, our primary goal is to create the technology necessary to get people to Mars, in the absence of which,… you know, it’s somewhat academic. So we wouldn’t want to get too distracted from our primary mission of we got to make it at least possible to go to Mars. And we want to do so as soon as possible and make access to Mars as widely available as possible, as affordable as possible so that if somebody wants to go, they can. So, that’s our primary mission.\nI mean, there are many good causes in the world, but we got to be careful that we do not try to take on too many. I mean, there are many noble missions, but we have to pick our battles and say, “Okay, let’s just make sure we get this done,” because nobody else is doing it. I mean, if SpaceX doesn’t do it, I’m not sure how it will happen. I think, at the least right now, SpaceX is the only hope. So we are going to get this done. And it’s far from done. I mean, we’ve got a long way to go.\nStarlink, in terms of providing internet connectivity to people that really don’t have it or it’s very expensive, I think will be helpful in empowering a lot of people who are disempowered today. I think that’s a good thing, too.",
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"content": "Alright, next.\nHi Technoking. How do you respond to allegations…?\nYou call him ‘technoking’?",
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"content": "That is my formal title.",
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"content": "I’m getting Jetsons’ vibes.",
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"content": "Totally Jetsons’ vibes. And may not be aware, some things that I have said publicly is that it’ll do zero to 60 in under one second. So best by far faster than any sports car that exists, and that’s not even the most exciting thing about it.",
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"content": "Does it have wings?",
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"content": "No, it does not have big wings because big wings would be unwieldy on the road.",
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"content": "Big candy.",
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"content": "You want to have a good competitive forcing function so that you have to make the product better, or you lose. Like if you don’t make the product better and improve the product for the end consumer, then that company should have relatively less prosperity compared to a company which makes better products. Now, the car industry is actually pretty competitive. So that’s good. The good thing about a competitive industry is if you make a product that’s better, it’s going to do better in the marketplace.\nSo, this is Gene Wilder’s old house.",
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"content": "Yeah. That’s amazing, it’s lovely. Thanks for having us here as well. That’s really special.",
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"content": "Yeah, it’s a cool spot. And it’s got a solar glass roof.",
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"content": "Many times. Every week. From left and right. I’ve had it from both sides. And it’s interesting, you and I are both like in that little group of people – maybe it’s a bigger group now – who are called conservative, who haven’t really changed. I don’t think of you as a conservative.",
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"content": "I at least think of myself as a moderate. I mean, I’ve spent a massive amount of my life energy building sustainable energy, you know, electric vehicles, and batteries and solar and stuff, to help save the environment. That’s not exactly far right.",
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"content": "You drew that diagram once where you’re here. I related to that, and like, the world has changed. I feel the same way. I feel like, very often, wokeness is not building on liberalism. It’s the opposite of liberalism. I can mention many examples where it’s the opposite, including free speech.",
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"content": "Free speech is actually extremely important. And it’s bizarre that we’ve come to this point where… like, free speech used to be a left or liberal value. And yet we see from the, you know, in quotes “left” a desire to actually censor. And that seems crazy. I think we should be extremely concerned about anything that undermines the First Amendment. There’s a reason for the First Amendment, because people came from countries where they could not speak freely and where saying certain things would get you thrown into prison. And they were like, well, we don’t want that here. And by the way, in many parts of the world, including possibly that people might think are relatively similar to the United States, the speech laws are draconian.",
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"content": "Thank God.",
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"content": "Yes, but for people who think perhaps the justice system consists entirely of judges like that, I want to assure you, this is not the case. The vast majority of judges are very good.",
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"content": "I agree.",
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"content": "And they care about justice, and they could have made a lot more money if they wanted to be a trial lawyer. And instead, they cared about justice, and they made less money because they care about justice. And that’s why they’re judges.",
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"content": "I know you have to go, if you’ll just give me… I’ll do a rapid fire thing here. Is there anything that you would change about anything that you’ve done in your life in the past or recently?",
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"content": "I’ve made many mistakes over the years. If I had a time machine, I’d go back and fix them, but I don’t have a time machine.",
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"content": "Thank you, Elon.",
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"content": "Thank you.",
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"content": "So. Okay. Right on time. Hello, everybody. Thank you for joining us. My name is Rob Robin Wheeler. And I have been at Twitter for over a decade on the sales team in various roles. And I am excited to be here and joined by Yoel Roth, who is the head of\nTrust and Safety\n, who’s also been at Twitter for a very long time, and Elon Musk, our CEO, new CEO,\nChief Twits\n,\nChief Complaint\nOfficer\n, what else are you calling yourself today?",
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"content": "Well, I’m like a complaint hotline, so listening to concerns and trying to address them.",
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"content": "No, I don’t.",
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"content": "Okay. Okay.",
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"content": "I think we’ve established that. What questions are people asking you? Go on.",
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"content": "There’s like a lot of comments. Let’s see. I’m just literally looking at replies to the fact that I just .",
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"content": "What do you mean by whole brain interface?",
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"content": "Almost all the neurons are connected to the sort of AI extension of yourself. If you want.",
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"content": "AI extension of yourself.",
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"content": "Yeah.",
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"content": "Can you say any of the exceptions?",
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"content": "I actually don’t know of anyone who said definitively they’re not coming back, but they’re all sort of trending towards coming back.",
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"content": "But there are some that just haven’t?",
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"content": "Jump in, the water’s warm. It’s great.",
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"content": "Do you think that that is maybe the way you recognize that you have this unusual position in the culture where you can uniquely influence certain things because of this? I mean, you essentially have a gift, right.I mean, you would think it was a curse, but I’m sure it’s been fueled by many, many years of discipline and learning. But you, essentially, have a gift, and that you have this radical sort of creativity engine when it comes to innovation and technology. It’s like you’re just you’re going at very high RPMs.",
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"content": "All the time. That doesn’t stop.",
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"content": "What is that like?",
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"content": "I don’t know what would happen if I got into a sensory deprivation tank.",
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"content": "Okay. One werewolf and one clock coming up.\nDo you think about your role in the culture? Because me, as a person, who never met you until today, I’ve always looked at you and like, „Wow.“ Like, „How does this guy just keep inventing shit?“ Like, how do you keep coming up with all these new devices? And do you ever consider how unusual — Like I had a dream once that there were a million Teslas. Instead of like one Tesla, there were a million Teslas. Not just say the car but Nikola.",
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"content": "Oh, yeah, sure.",
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"content": "And that in his day, there were a million people like him who were radically innovative.It was a weird dream, man. It was so strange. And I’ve had it more than once.",
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"content": "That would result in a very rapid technology innovation. That’s for sure.",
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"content": "When you do this, is there any tests that you have to do before you do something like this to see what percentage of people’s bodies are going to reject these things? Is there a potential for rejection?",
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"content": "It’s a very low potential for rejection. I mean, you can think of it like people put in heart monitors and things for epileptic seizures and\ndeep brain stimulation\n, obviously like artificial hips and knees and that kind of thing. The probability of… I mean, it’s well known what will cause rejection and what will not. It’s definitely harder when you’ve got something that is sort of reading and writing neurons that’s generating a current pulse and reading current pulses. That’s a little harder than, say, a passive device, but it’s still very doable. There are people who have primitive devices in their brains right now.",
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"content": "What kind of devices?",
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"content": "Well, like deep brain stimulation provided for Parkinson’s, it has really changed people’s lives in a big way, which is kind of remarkable because it kind of like zaps your brain. It’s like kicking the TV type of thing. You think like, man, kicking the TV shouldn’t work.",
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"content": "Right. When you talk about the emotional strain, you’ve gone back to feedback. Is that the thing that’s been most difficult to take, the sort of negative feedback?",
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"content": "Yeah, I mean, if the media’s writing nonstop stories about why you’re a horrible person, it’s hurtful, obviously.",
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"content": "I’m interested, I’ve written down a lot of these questions, but I haven’t written this one down. But it’s interesting, it feels like you have quite an interesting relationship with the media because in one some ways you’re quite skeptical, quite critical certainly of established media, but also you kind of get hurt by what the media writes and you seem to-",
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"content": "I do, but-",
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"content": "Thank you. I don’t know where this came from. Who brought this to us?\nTrying to remember. I can’t…\nSomebody gave it to us. Old Camp. Whoever this was,…",
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"content": "It’s good.",
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"content": "…thanks. Yeah, it is good. This is just inevitable. Again, going back to your when you decided to have this fatalistic viewpoint. So, you tried to warn people, you talked about this pretty extensively. I’ve read several interviews where you talked about this. And then you just sort of just said, ‘okay, it just is’. And, in a way, by communicating the potential for… – I mean, for sure you’re getting the warning out to some people.",
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"content": "Yeah. I mean, I was really going on the warning quite a lot. I was warning everyone I could. Even met with Obama, just for one reason.",
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"content": "So many people ask, how does Elon Musk manage his life? And I know you’ve been asked this question a lot of times, and I heard a lot of interviews with you. But still, even I wonder all the time. How do you do this? Because Tesla in itself is a huge, complex operation with factories on all continents almost by now.",
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"content": "Almost.",
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"content": "Almost, yeah. But it’s not your only company. You have SpaceX, which seems to be a huge success. You have your own space program, you’re talking about a mission to Mars, you have Neuralink connecting computers to brains.",
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"content": "Neuralink is a small company.",
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"content": "And the main design is to basically take 100 plus people at a time, plus a bunch of things that they need, to Mars. So, first of all, talk about that piece. What is your latest timeline? One, for the first time, a Starship goes to Mars, presumably without people, but just equipment. Two, with people. Three, the sort of, okay, 100 people at a time. Let’s go.",
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"content": "Sure. Well, just to put the cost thing into perspective. The expected cost of Starship putting 100 tons into orbit is significantly less than what it did cost to put our tiny Falcon 1 rocket into orbit. Just as the cost of flying a 747 around the world is less than the cost of a small airplane. You know, a small airplane that was thrown away. So it’s really pretty mind-boggling that the giant thing cost way less than the small thing. So it doesn’t use sort of exotic propellants or things that are difficult to obtain on Mars. It uses methane as fuel and it’s primarily oxygen – sort of roughly 77, 78% oxygen by weight. And Mars has a CO2 atmosphere and has water ice, which is CO2 plus H2O, so you can make CH4 methane and O2 oxygen on Mars.",
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"content": "Presumably, one of the first tasks on Mars will be to create a fuel plant that can create the fuel for the return trips of many Starships.",
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"content": "Yes. And actually, it’s mostly going to be an oxygen plant, because it’s 78% oxygen, 22% fuel. But the fuel is a simple fuel that is easy to create on Mars and in many other parts of the solar system. So basically… And it’s all propulsive landing, no parachutes, nothing thrown away. It has a heat shield that’s capable of entering on Earth or Mars. We could even potentially go to Venus, but you don’t want to go there. Venus is hell, almost literally. But you could… It’s a generalized method of transport to anywhere in the solar system because the point at which you have propellant depo on Mars, you can then travel to the asteroid belt, and to the moons of Jupiter, and then to Saturn and ultimately, anywhere in the solar system.",
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"content": "People shouldn’t believe everything that they see online, and I don’t think that should be criminal.",
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"content": "No- I think criminal is over the top there. I would agree with that that they went too far. If that’s the standard for throwing someone in prison, then there should be a lot of people in prison.",
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"content": "Yeah. What are you in prison for? Meme crimes.\nExactly.",
"role": "user"
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"content": "Meanwhile, there’s like murders running free, so it’s crazy.",
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"content": "Well, when you’re implementing it – you’re digging holes in the ground – so you have to bring it to someone that lets you do it.",
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"content": "There were some engineers from SpaceX who thought it would be cool to do this. And the guy who runs it day-to-day, Steve Davis, he’s a long-time SpaceX engineer; he’s great. Steve was like, I’d like to help make this happen, and I was like, cool. So, we started off with digging a hole in the ground. It’s got like a permit for a pit, big pit, and just dug a big pit.",
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"content": "And you have to tell them what the pit’s for, or you just say ‘hey, we just want to dig a hole’.",
"role": "user"
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"content": "I just filled out this form.",
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"content": "Cancer.",
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"content": "If you get hit by a bus, go to the hospital and die, and they find that you have Covid, you will be recorded as a Covid death.",
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"content": "Why would they do that, though?",
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"content": "Well, right now, the road to hell is paved with good intentions. I mean, it’s mostly paved with bad intentions, but there’s some good intentions in saving (…1:28:36) in there, too. And the stimulus bill that was intended to help with the hospitals that were being overrun with Covid patients created an incentive to record something as Covid that is difficult to say no to, especially if your hospital’s going bankrupt for lack of other patients. So, the hospitals are in a bind right now. There’s a bunch of hospitals, they’re furloughing doctors, as you were mentioning. If your hospital’s half full, it’s hard to make ends meet. So now you’ve got like, “If I just check this box, I get $8,000. Put them on a ventilator for five minutes, I get $39,000 back. Or, I got to fire some doctors.” So, this is a tough moral quandary. It’s like, what are you going to do? That’s the situation we have.",
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"content": "Can you choose what voice wakes you up?",
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"content": "Well, it’s sort of more of a — It sort of honks.",
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"content": "It honks?",
"role": "user"
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"content": "Yeah.",
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"content": "Do you think that’s unfair?",
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"content": "Yeah.",
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"content": "Why?",
"role": "user"
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"content": "I think we should not make this a constant subject. I think we need to move on. I think we just treat people like people.",
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"content": "Where do you sleep tonight?",
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"content": "Tonight, in the factory.",
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"content": "In the factory?",
"role": "user"
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"content": "Well, technically a conference room in the factory.",
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"content": "He’s not a good friend.",
"role": "user"
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"content": "I said I wouldn’t swear.",
"role": "assistant"
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"content": "Realize you’re fucking Elon Musk. You can do whatever you want, man. If you ever get confused, call me.",
"role": "user"
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"content": "I’ll swear in private. Swear up a storm.",
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"content": "Okay, that was about 60 seconds. I don’t know what’s going on with my watch, but we’re on Cybertruck. Right now, we’re on to Neuralink. So, the big question is, in 2022, how are you pushing that project along? What happens?",
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"content": "Neuralink is working well in monkeys, and we’re also doing just a lot of testing and just confirming that it’s very safe and reliable and that the Neuralink device can be removed safely. People may have seen the demo that we published earlier this year with the video of a monkey playing the video game Pong telepathically using the Neuralink in its brain. It’s completely wireless, charges inductively. Basically, the monkey looks completely normal and yet is playing a video game telepathically, which is, I think, quite profound.\nWe hope to have this in our first humans, which will be people that have severe spinal cord injuries like tetraplegics, quadriplegics next year, pending FDA approval. I should say our standards for implanting that device are substantially higher than what the FDA requires, just as our standards for safety with Tesla are much higher than what the US government requires. And I’ve taken a little more than 60 seconds.",
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"content": "Yes, I’m about to cut you off.",
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"content": "Because I think that’s something pretty cool. And I do want to say that I… – emphasis on cautiously optimistic about this – I think we have a chance with Neuralink of being able to restore full body functionality to someone who has a spinal cord injury. Meaning I think we have a chance – I emphasize ‘a chance’ – of being able to allow someone who cannot walk or use their arms to be able to walk again.",
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"content": "Did you talk to him?",
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"content": "Um, not verbally.",
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"content": "What is it, (…)?",
"role": "user"
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"content": "No, just a…you know…",
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"content": "That’s a good goal.",
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"content": "Yeah, that’s a good goal. But we’re definitely not going to assert that everything you see on Twitter is true because it isn’t. I think-",
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"content": ".",
"role": "user"
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"content": "… be very skeptically, any organization that claims to be completely truthful, because they’re not and so that very claim is false. So I think it’s important to reflect on what mistakes we’re making and try to make fewer of them in the future.",
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"content": "But the judge is going to be-",
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"content": "The judge is the public.",
"role": "assistant"
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"content": "And you think that the public is going to say that Disney is making a mistake. And they’re going to boycott Disney.",
"role": "user"
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"content": "They already are.",
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"content": "Yeah. Launching rockets, electric cars, revolutionizing transportation. Yeah, it’s easy.",
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"content": "I cannot play the violin at all. Very horrible. If you think about the future, you want a future that’s better than the past, and so if we had something like the Hyperloop, I think that would be cool. You’d look forward to the day that that was working. And if something like that, even if it was only in one place – from LA to San Francisco, or New York to DC or something like that – then it would be cool enough that it would be like a tourist attraction. It would be like a ride or something.\nSo even if some of the initial assumptions didn’t work out, the economics didn’t work out quite as one expected, it would be cool enough that like, “I want to journey to that place just to ride on that thing.” That would be pretty cool. And so that’s I think how… if you come up with a new technology, it should feel like that. You should really… if you told it to an objective person, would they look forward to the day that that thing became available? And it would be pretty exciting to do something like that.\nOr an aircraft. Like I thought it was really disappointing when the Concorde was taking out of commission, and there was no supersonic transport available. And, of course, the 787 has had some issues. But the thing is, the 787, even in the best-case scenario, is only a slightly better version of the 777. And it’s like, okay, not that exciting.",
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"content": "So this is something that you are working on?",
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"content": "I wouldn’t say working on it.",
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"content": "Wait, it dances?",
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"content": "Yes.",
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"content": "Legitimate, like it goes around?",
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"content": "Yes.",
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"content": "How close did you get to folding?",
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"content": "Very close. I mean, 2008 is not a good time to be a car company, especially a startup car company, and especially an electric car company. That was like stupidity squared.",
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"content": "And this is when you had those cool Roadsters with the T-top?With a target top?",
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"content": "Yeah. We had like a — It was a highly modified Elise chassis. The body was all completely different. By the way, that was a super dumb strategy that we actually did because we-",
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"content": "It doesn’t help.",
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"content": "It doesn’t help, you know. I think you want to be — I mean, my theory is like you’d rather be optimistic. I think I’d rather be optimistic and wrong than pessimistic and right.",
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"content": "Right.",
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"content": "At least, or on that side.",
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"content": "Just like the tribes in the Amazon, the uncontacted tribes or protecting them. That’s what-",
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"content": "That would be a nice explanation.",
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"content": "Or you could have, what was it? I think Andre Kappelhoff said, “It’s like the ants and the Amazon asking where’s everybody?”",
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"content": "Well, they do run into a lot of other ants.",
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"content": "I’m just going to mute it. There we go.",
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"content": "Okay.",
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"content": "Are we good, guys?",
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"content": "Wow. Okay. We’ve got 200,000 people listening.",
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"content": "So that’s that view that God is like the universe and reveals himself through the laws of physics or as Einstein said, “Through the lawful harmony of the world.”",
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"content": "Yeah. I would agree that God of the simulator or whatever the supreme beings reveal themselves through the physics, they have creatives of this existence and incumbent upon us to try to understand more about this one creation.",
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"content": "Who created this thing? Who’s running this thing? Embodying it into a singular question with a sexy word on top of it is focusing the mind to understand. It does seem like there’s a, again, it could be an illusion. It seems like there’s a purpose that there’s an underlying master plan of some kind, and it seems like.",
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"content": "There may not be a master plan in the sense. So maybe an interesting answer to the question of determinism versus free will is that if we are in a simulation, the reason that these higher beings would hold a simulation is to see what happens. So they don’t know what happens otherwise they wouldn’t hold the simulation. So when humans create a simulation, so it’s SpaceX and Tesla, we create simulations all the time. Especially for the rocket, you have to run a lot of simulations to understand what’s going to happen because you can’t really test the rocket until it goes to space and you want it to work. So you have to simulate subsonic, transonic, supersonic, hypersonic, ascend, and then coming back, super high heating and orbital dynamics. All this has got to be simulated because you don’t get very many kicks at the can. But we run the simulations to see what happens, not if we knew what happens, we wouldn’t run the simulation. So whoever created this existence, they’re running it because they don’t know what’s going to happen, not because they do.",
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"content": "Well, out here, they seem like, you know, every…",
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"content": "Well, this is our home team. We better sell a lot in the Bay Area. Because otherwise, we’re like…",
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"content": "And, well, I mean, similar thing. How did you start? What gave you the confidence? And do you see yourselves as kind of a major automotive, mainstream brand in five, ten years, all the way down to competing with the Honda Accords and Civics?",
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"content": "I mean, yeah. Our goal, it’s not to become a big brand or to compete with Honda Civics, rather to advance the cause of electric vehicles. We’re just going to keep making more and more electric cars and driving the price point down until the industry is very firmly electric. Like maybe half of all cars made are electric or something like that, which is not to say that we expect to make half of all cars. We want to just have that catalytic effect until at least that occurs. The point at which we’re approaching half of all new cars made are electric, then I think I would consider that to be the victory condition. The faster we can bring that day, the better.",
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"content": "But that’s biological travel. That’s cells traveling physically to another location.",
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"content": "Yes.",
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"content": "Do you think that’s definitely where we’re going?",
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"content": "No.",
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"content": "Like where I’ve woken up, and it’s in the same dream. I’m in the same dream. And in this dream, it’s the 1940s, 1950s, but everyone is severely advanced. There are flying blimps with like LCD screens on the side of them. And everything is bizarre and strange. And it stuck with me for whatever — Obviously, this is just a stupid dream. But for whatever reason, all these years, that stuck with me like it takes one man, like Nikola Tesla, to have more than a hundred inventions that were patents, right. I mean, he had some pretty fucking amazing ideas. But there was-In his day, there were very few people like him.",
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"content": "Yeah, that was true.",
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"content": "What if there was a million? Like what in the experience-",
"role": "user"
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"content": "Things would advance very quickly.",
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"content": "We need to chop down all the coconut trees.",
"role": "user"
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"content": "Stop water.",
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"content": "Coconuts kill 150 people every year. Cut down all the coconut trees. We need those people. It’s, at a certain point in time, it’s… Yeah, we’re vulnerable, and also, we have a finite existence no matter what.",
"role": "user"
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"content": "We do. Nobody lives forever.",
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"content": "So, getting to Mars will be affordable someday?",
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"content": "Yes, absolutely. It has to be. In order for Mars to be a self-sustaining civilization, it has to be affordable. Enough people need to go, you know.",
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"content": "Why do you want people to go? When you just keep saying that – because you’re worried about this planet? Or are you just betting the odds are, we’ll either blow it up or (…20:08). It’ll be the ‘Day after Tomorrow’ movie.",
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"content": "It’s really, you know, if we just step away from our sort of internecine squabbles and say, let’s look at the big picture here. What sort of actions can we take that maximize the probability that the future is going to be good for civilization and consciousness? And I think we should regard consciousness on Earth as delicate, you know, just fragile. And, you know, what sort of actions can we do to ensure that it continues and that the scope and scale of consciousness expands.\nI’m in favor of expansion because, like, you know, if we want to understand what the universe is about and what’s the meaning of life, we need to get out there and find out. And the more we expand the scope and scale of consciousness, the better we will be able to understand what questions to ask about the answer that is the universe.",
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"content": "Excellent. So this one came up a lot. And this particular question is from Yosef: “But will this technology ever be used for gaming?”",
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"content": "Yeah, probably.",
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"content": "100%.",
"role": "user"
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"content": "100%, yeah.",
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{
"content": "That’s amazing.",
"role": "user"
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"content": "It’s awesome.",
"role": "assistant"
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"content": "Wow.",
"role": "user"
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"content": "Yes. It’s exactly what you’d expect.",
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"content": "Yeah, you got it.",
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"content": "Actually, I can tell you how that problem arose. First of all, you can generally see the errors, the organizational structure errors; they manifest themselves in the product. The wheelhouse areas of the body – there was a lot of engineering done, and there were a lot of right answers to the wrong question. Somebody would say something like, “What’s the best material to make this little section of the body out of, and what’s the right material to make this little section?” And I think we’ve got probably the best material science team in the world at Tesla. Actually, a lot of them also just do work at SpaceX as well.",
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"content": "I know, I’m coming to that question.",
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"content": "The engineers would ask what’s the best material for this purpose, best for that, and they got, like, 50 different answers. And they’re all true individually, but they were not true collectively. When you try to join all these dissimilar metal, dissimilar alloys, you have galvanic corrosion, you got to have better seal, and you’ve got gaps that you’ve got to seal, and you’ve got to join these things, and some of them need to be joined with rivets, some need to be joined with spot welds, some need to be joined with resin or with resin and spot welds.\nFrankly, it looks like a sort of a bit of a Frankenstein situation when you look at it all together. I can’t emphasize enough the nightmare of sealing in between the gaps. That might be the most painful job in the whole factory, spackling on the sealant. There’s like a little error with curing the sealant or like just somebody who’s been working for several hours makes a slight mistake, then you’ve got an MBH issue because you’ve got a little hole and you’ve got a leak issue. This is terrible.\nI mean, you can muscle through it, and we have, but it’s just way better to have a single piece casting. Then you don’t have any gaps, no sealant, you don’t have dissimilar metals, and you can reduce the size of the body shop dramatically. So, just having the rear body castings for Model Y allowed us to reduce the body shop by 30%. There are roughly a thousand robots on the Model 3 body line, which by the way is also not a figure of merit. You want fewer things, not more. We got rid of 300 robots, just for that rear body casting. When we go to the front body casting, we’ll get rid of another 300 robots.",
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"content": "There’s no way to create some sort of a magnetic something or another that allows you to float?",
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"content": "Technically, yes. You could have a strong enough magnet, but that magnet would be so strong that you would create a lot of trouble.",
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"content": "It would just suck cars up into your car? Just pick up axles and shit?",
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"content": "I mean, you’d have to repel off of either material on the ground or in a really nutty situation off of Earth’s gravitational field, and somehow make that incredibly light, but that magnet would cause so much destruction. You’d be better off with a helicopter.",
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"content": "Do you think technologically speaking, there’s any room for ideas of smart contracts or so on? Because you mentioned laws. That’s an interesting implement use of things like smart contracts to implement the laws by which governments function. Like something built on Ethereum, or maybe a dog coin that enables smart contracts somehow?",
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"content": "I don’t quite understand this whole smart-contract thing. I’m too downtown to understand smart contracts.\n(both laughing)",
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"content": "That’s a good line.",
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"content": "My general approach to any kind of deal or whatever is just make sure there’s clarity of understanding. That’s the most important thing. And just keep any kind of deal very short and simple, plain language, and just make sure everyone understands: “This is the deal. Is it clear? And what are the consequences if various things don’t happen?” But usually, deals are – business deals or whatever – are way too long and complex and overly lawyered. And pointlessly.",
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