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"content": "There probably is. There’s probably two million. I mean, I think that’s the case with a lot of folks.",
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"content": "Yeah. I mean, but, like, you know, my goal is, like, try to do useful things, try to maximize the probability for the future’s good, make the future exciting, something you look forward to, you know. You know, with Tesla, I want to try to make things that people love. How many things can you buy that you really love, that really give you joy? So rare, so rare. I wish there were more things. That’s what we try to do. Just make things that somebody loves.That’s so difficult.\nJoe\nRogan\n:\nWhen you think about things that someone loves, like, do you specifically think about like what things would improve people’s experience, like what would change the way people interface with life that would make them more relaxed or more happy? You really think, like, when you’re thinking about things like that, is that like one of your considerations? Like what could I do that would help people that maybe they wouldn’t be able to figure out?\nYeah. Like what are the set of things that can be done to make the future better? I think, a future where we are a space-faring civilization and out there among the stars, this is very exciting. This makes me look forward to the future. This makes me want that future. You know, the things, there need to be things that make you look forward to waking up in the morning. You wake up in the morning, you look forward to the day, you look forward to the future.\nAnd a future where we are a space-faring civilization and out there among the stars, I think, that’s very exciting. That is a thing we want; whereas, if we knew we would not be a space-faring civilization but forever confined to Earth, this would not be a good future. That would be very sad, I think. I don’t want a sad future.",
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"content": "It would be so sad in terms of just the finite lifespan of the Earth itself and the solar system itself. But even though it’s possibly — You know, I mean, how long do they feel like the sun and the solar system is going to exist? How many hundreds of millions of years?",
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"content": "Well, it’s probably, if you’re saying when does the sun boil the oceans-",
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"content": "So, let’s go off Twitter. Two other topics where we have some questions. Number one is logistics. When we’re starting to make so many cars by the end of this year, 40,000 cars a week…",
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"content": "I mean, I have to be careful of MNPI\n(Material non-public information)\n. But I believe I have said in the past publicly that our aspiration is to reach 40,000 a week by the end of this year.",
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"content": "So if we’re doing that, then that means that you’re producing a car within 15 seconds. But that’s still only 2 million cars a year, and it is 100 million cars to be made a year. And so the question, there’s presumably capacity to be able to logistics to ship all these cars all over the place to have people pick them up where they want them? But not if they all do in the same week?",
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"content": "Yes, totally. We had a bit of criticism for our Q3 results because we had a lot of cars in transit. And the reason was that we got too big for our cars to actually be transported in the final few weeks. There weren’t enough car carriers and weren’t enough ships. But it’s actually good in the long run to smooth out deliveries and actually have cars in transit at the end of the quarter because then you’re not rushing to get everything delivered by the end of the quarter and paying all these expedite fees.",
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"content": "Okay, I’ll get the car you drive.",
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"content": "It will blow your mind out of your skull.",
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"content": "How far can I drive?",
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"content": "About 300 miles.",
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"content": "Something we don’t want to see, it gets pushed way down.",
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"content": "Yeah, basically, the bad stuff gets pushed way down. And then crime stops paying, and they stop trying to do all these things.",
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"content": "And we can recruit them as engineers to program for us. Crime guys.",
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"content": "Yeah. I mean, the joke is like, what’s the best place to hide a dead body would be the second page of Google search results. Nobody ever goes there.",
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"content": "I mean, it’s almost like “Rick and Morty” absurd until you start to really think about it. And you really should think about it in this way because everything else is kind of… you might fall victim to the momentum of the way things were done in the past unless you think in this way.",
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"content": "Well, just as a function of inertia, people want to use the same tools and methods that they’re familiar with. That’s what they’ll do by default. And then, that will lead to an outcome of things that can be made with those tools and methods but is unlikely to be the platonic ideal of the perfect product. It’s good to think of things in both directions, like “What can we build with the tools that we have?” but also, “What is the theoretical perfect product look like?”\nAnd that theoretical perfect part is gonna be a moving target because as you learn more, the definition of that perfect product will change. Because you don’t actually know what the perfect product is, but you can successfully approximate a more perfect product. So think about it like that, and then saying, “Okay, now what tools, methods, materials, whatever do we need to create in order to get the atoms in that shape?” But people very rarely think about it that way. But it’s a powerful tool.",
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"content": "(to the audience)\nI should mention that the brilliant Shivon Zilis is hanging out with us, in case you hear a voice of wisdom from outside, from up above.\nOkay, so let me ask you about Mars. You mentioned, it’d be great for science to put a base on the Moon to do some research. But the truly big leap again, in this category of seemingly impossible, is to put a human being on Mars. When do you think SpaceX will land a human being on Mars?",
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"content": "Best case is about five years, worst case 10 years.",
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"content": "But you are saying that it was throttled?",
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"content": "No, I’m saying-",
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"content": "I mean was there a conversation that you had with somebody you said, ” Look, I’m unhappy with The Times. They should either be buying the subscription, or I don’t like their content or whatever.”",
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"content": "Any organization that refuses to buy a subscription is not going to be recommended.",
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"content": "It’s possible, right?",
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"content": "Yes.",
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"content": "We can turn the whole thing into Cancún.",
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"content": "Well-",
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"content": "Okay. All right, I understand that. So you said you were born that way. Do you think that the way that you see the world has to do with your relationship with anyone, perhaps your father or someone in your family?",
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"content": "I think we’re all affected by the people we grew up with. My aspiration is to do whatever it takes to extend consciousness into the future. That’s my goal, to make life multi-planetary as part of extending consciousness into the future.",
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"content": "Have the past few years and considering everything that’s gone on, has it been difficult for you and your family life?",
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"content": "It’s been okay.",
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"content": "Well, I am as well. I think that’s something that I saw disappear when I was at Ford motor company because of the things they were going on in the late 80s – sorry, the late 70s and early 80s – and they just had to shed some stuff, and that went away like, they don’t invent materials there anymore. Actually, no one else did either or does either.\nThose kinds of things are the things that maybe the bigger OEMs should be thinking about. Bringing stuff back in, especially now; I mean, I don’t need the size of an engine plant and a transmission plant, and I got a little dinky electric motor and basically a two-speed gearbox or one-speed gearbox. That’s going to be a big, big difference. I don’t know what they’re going to do with all that stuff. I really don’t know how they’re going to start implementing this. You may have heard that General Motors said that in 2035 they’re going to be nothing but electric cars.",
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"content": "Yeah. That’s cool.",
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"content": "That’s a pretty big step. I’ve been saying for a long time, in fact – I had a lot of executives come in after I gave a speech and said – this was a couple of years ago now – and I said the crossover point for electric over ICE is 2030. Basically, that was because of tearing apart your car, the Model 3.",
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"content": "majority … crossover point, how you’re finding that?",
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"content": "And do you think that the public will accept that? Do you think the government will accept that?",
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"content": "Well, in large numbers, it will simply be so obviously true that it really cannot be denied.",
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"content": "And what do you think, I know we’ve talked about the timeline before, and I know people have criticized you for putting out timelines that may not have come true just yet, but what do you think it really is? And by the way, do you feel, do you ever say to yourself, oh, I shouldn’t have said that?",
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"content": "Sure, of course. Wait, I shouldn’t have said that. So yeah, I’m optimistic about… I think I’m naturally optimistic about time scales, and if I was not naturally optimistic, I wouldn’t be doing the things that I’m doing. I mean, I certainly wouldn’t have sold a rocket company or electric car company if I didn’t have some sort of pathological optimism, frankly.\nSo as you pointed out, many people said that it would fail. And in fact, actually I agreed with them. I said, “Yes, it probably will fail.” And they’re like, “Hmm, okay.” But I thought SpaceX and Tesla had less than a 10% chance of success when we started them. So yeah, anyway. But the self-driving thing is, I’ve been optimistic about it, but we’ve certainly made a lot of progress. If anybody has tried, has been using the sort of full self-driving beta, the progress every year has been substantial.\nIt’s really now at the point where in most places it’ll take you from one place to another with no interventions. And the data is unequivocal that supervised full self-driving is somewhere around four times safer or maybe more, than just a human driving by themselves. So I can certainly see it coming. Actually, really-",
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"content": "And they’ll find their way to specific areas of the brain to stimulate?",
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"content": "No, you literally put them where they’re supposed to go.",
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"content": "Oh, okay. How long will these wires be?",
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"content": "I mean, they usually go in like, depending on where it is, like two or three millimeters.",
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"content": "But your project Neuralink is, in a way, empowering human intelligence versus artificial intelligence. That’s the purpose of it. Is that correct?",
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"content": "Yeah, so Neuralink – in the short to medium term, Neuralink is really just going to help cure brain injuries, and brain and spine injuries. It’s like if somebody’s – in fact, our first implant of devices in humans will be for quadriplegics, tetraplegics allowing them to control a computer or a phone just using their mind. You can imagine like if Stephen Hawking could just talk and at normal speed or even faster than normal speed.",
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"content": "Looking back for the last thousands of years, what is the most important invention of mankind so far?",
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"content": "In the past thousand years, I guess –",
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"content": "There’s no way to create some sort of a magnetic something or another that allows you to float?",
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"content": "Technically, yes. You could have a strong enough magnet, but that magnet would be so strong that you would create a lot of trouble.",
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"content": "When you do this, is there any tests that you have to do before you do something like this to see what percentage of people’s bodies are going to reject these things? Is there a potential for rejection?",
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"content": "It’s a very low potential for rejection. I mean, you can think of it like people put in heart monitors and things for epileptic seizures and\ndeep brain stimulation\n, obviously like artificial hips and knees and that kind of thing. The probability of… I mean, it’s well known what will cause rejection and what will not. It’s definitely harder when you’ve got something that is sort of reading and writing neurons that’s generating a current pulse and reading current pulses. That’s a little harder than, say, a passive device, but it’s still very doable. There are people who have primitive devices in their brains right now.",
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"content": "What kind of devices?",
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"content": "Well, like deep brain stimulation provided for Parkinson’s, it has really changed people’s lives in a big way, which is kind of remarkable because it kind of like zaps your brain. It’s like kicking the TV type of thing. You think like, man, kicking the TV shouldn’t work.",
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"content": "Okay. Yeah, we’re not going to do this.",
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"content": "Can I interview you?",
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"content": "Obviously I work for the BBC, so-",
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"content": "Do you like BBC?",
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"content": "They put it in like a barrel fruit or something.",
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"content": "I don’t know what they put it in, but something that customs didn’t like. And the paperwork wasn’t in order or whatever. So it got stuck there for like a couple of weeks. And then we had plan B. We called and said, look, you’ve got to air freight some of these cables – because they’re just little cables – to us. We talked to their US subsidiary and ordered from the US subsidiary, who then communicated to China. But then, because this was another batch of parts, so it was kind of double the order, it exceeded the credit limit that we had. It bounced off the credit limit, so they didn’t ship it.",
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"content": "Fascinating. So someone’s losing their job now. This is… no, I’m kidding. You shouldn’t fire anyone.",
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"content": "I mean, it’s pretty farcical. And, anyway, so, it’s coming like tonight at 11 pm or something.",
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"content": "A skeptic is gonna say that every year for the last five years, you’ve kind of said, well, no, this is the year, we’re confident that it will be there in a year or two or, you know, like, it’s always been about that far away. But we’ve got a new architecture, and now you’re seeing enough improvement behind the scenes to make you not certain but pretty confident that this, by the end of this year, what in most, not in every city, in every circumstance, but in many cities and circumstances, basically the car will be able to drive without interventions safer than a human.",
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"content": "Yes, I mean, the car currently drives me around awesome most of the time with no interventions. And we have over 100,000 people in our full self-driving beta program. So you can look at the videos that they posted online.",
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"content": "I do.",
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"content": "Okay, great.",
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"content": "You said you’re not going to donate to any candidate.",
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"content": "That’s correct.",
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"content": "Why not?",
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"content": "I think… Well, I’ll voice my opinion, I think, I don’t want to put a thumb on the scale monetarily that is significant.",
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"content": "Now, as you get older and get to appreciate it as a mature, fully formed adult, it must be really pretty wonderful.",
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"content": "Yeah. Great. Wonderful. It’s great. But babies are awesome. Yeah, it’s great. Also, I’ve spent a lot of time on AI and neural nets and so you can sort of see the brain develop, which is … An AI neural net is trying to simulate what a brain does, basically. You can sort of see it learning very quickly. You know, it’s just wow.",
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"content": "You’re talking about the neural net; you’re not talking about an actual baby.",
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"content": "I don’t talk about an actual baby.",
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"content": "Right, right, when it’s over.",
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"content": "Yeah. I mean, most of our launches are commercial, to be clear.",
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"content": "Yes, I understand that. You’re doing a lot of government work. What is that like working with the government. Is this important to your business?",
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"content": "Yeah. I mean, it’s an important part of business. Bear in mind, if you’re in any industry, like, let’s say you’re a pencil manufacturer, okay. About 40% of your pencils are going to go to the government. The government’s about 40% of the economy. You know, if you’re a shoe manufacturer, you bet 40% of your business is going to be with the government. So, you know, it’s to be expected that most companies are gonna have a percentage of business with the government, state, federal and local, that is proportionate to the GDP of the government.",
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"content": "You’re not worried about U.S.-China relations?",
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"content": "No, not especially right now.",
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"content": "Especially, all right. Let’s talk about Space. You had a recent Space… you’ve sent up a bunch of civilians into Space. You not send yourself up.",
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"content": "No, I not send myself up. I suppose I will at some point. But my goal is not to send myself up. My goal is to open up Space for humanity and ultimately set us on a path to becoming a spacefaring civilization and a multi-planet species.",
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"content": "For sure. For sure. And second question is, will I be able to meet the Twitter CEO there or no?",
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"content": "Sure.",
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"content": "Perfect. Can’t wait. And I just have one message for James, you know the number of people in this Twitter space so you should be a responsible reporter. You are claiming that you are seeing a lot of hate speech, but you could not even give a single example. So I just request you to be a responsible speaker. That’s it.",
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"content": "All right. Thank you.",
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"content": "Especially when it’s just a transitory one, anyway.",
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"content": "Yes.",
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"content": "We’re going to run out of these fossil fuels. Let’s just move to the future and not run this experiment any longer.",
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"content": "Yeah. So anyway, there is a lot of good news, though. A lot of people may not be aware that wind and solar comprise 75% of new electricity capacity in the US this year. So, this is really major. The grid is going sustainable very quickly. Now, it’s also worth noting that the length of time that power plants last is on the order of 25 years. So even if 100% of energy generation was sustainable, it will still take 25 years to convert the grid. And it’s also worth noting that in the past ten years, power production from coal has dropped in half. It went from 46% of electricity in 2010 to 23% in 2020. This is a massive improvement. So, good things are happening on a lot of levels. We just need to go faster.\nSo, Tesla’s contribution: we’ve delivered over a million electric vehicles, 26 billion electric miles driven, and many gigawatt-hours\n(GWh)\nof stationary batteries, 17 terawatt-hours\n(TWh)\nof solar-generated. I think solar is sometimes underweighted at Tesla, but it is a massive part of our future. The three parts of a sustainable energy future are sustainable energy generation, storage, and electric vehicles. We intend to play a significant role in all three.\nTo accelerate the transition to sustainable energy, we must produce more EVs that need to be affordable and a lot more energy storage while building factories faster and with far less investment.\nSo, goal number one is a terawatt-hour scale battery production. So, Tera is the new Giga. And a terawatt is a thousand times more than a gigawatt. We used to talk in terms of gigawatts, in the future, we’ll be talking in terms of terawatt-hours. This is what’s needed in order to transition the world to sustainability.",
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"content": "Right. Okay. So we just talked about scaling cathode and recycling. All of the benefits that you just saw are added to this benefit of a 12% reduction in $/kWh at the battery pack level. Almost at our half of the cost goal, but there’s one more section. Take it away, Elon.",
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"content": "So there’s an architecture that we’ve been wanting to do at Tesla for a long time, and we’ve finally figured it out. And I think it’s the way that all electric cars in the future will ultimately be made. It’s the right way to do things.\nIt starts with having a single piece casting for the front body and the rear body. And in order to do this, we commissioned the largest casting machine that has ever been made. And it’s currently working just over the road at our Fremont plant. It’s pretty sweet. Currently making the entire rear section of the car as a single piece, high-pressure die-cast aluminum.\nAnd in order to do this, we actually had to develop our own alloy because we wanted a high-strength casting alloy that did not require coatings or heat treatment. This is a big deal for castings, especially with a large casting. If you heat treat it afterwards, it tends to deform. It kind of does this like potato chip thing. So it’s very hard to keep a large casting to have its shape.\nSo, in order to achieve this – there was no alloy that existed that could do this – so we developed our own alloy, a special alloy of aluminum that has high strength without heat treat and is very castable. So that’s a great achievement of our materials team. In fact, in general, we’ve got a lot of advanced materials coming for Tesla – new alloys and materials – that have never existed before.\nSo, you’re basically making the front and rear of the car is a single piece, and that then interfaces to what we call the structural battery, where the battery for the first time will have dual use. The battery will both have the use as an energy device and as structure. This is absolutely the way things are done. In the early days of aircraft, they would carry the fuel tanks as cargo. So the fuel tanks actually were quite difficult to carry. They’re basically worse than cargo; you had to kind of bolt them down. It was very difficult.\nAnd then somebody said, “Hey, what if we just make the fuel tank in wing shape?” So all modern airplanes – your wing is just a fuel tank in wing shape. This is absolutely the way to do it. And then the fuel tanks serve this dual structure, and it’s no longer cargo. It’s fundamental to the structure of the aircraft. This was a major breakthrough. We’re doing the same for cars.\nSo this is really quite profound. Effectively the non-cell portion of the battery has negative mass. We saved more mass in the rest of the vehicle than the non-cell portion of the battery. So it’s like, “How do you really minimize the mass of a battery? Make it negative. Make the non-cell portion of battery pack negative.” So it also allows us to pack the cells more densely because we do not have intermediate structure in the battery pack. So instead of having these supports and stabilizers and stringers and structural elements in the battery, we now have a lot more space in the battery because the pack itself is structural.\nWhat we do essentially, instead of having just a filler that is a flame retardant, which is currently what is in the 3 and Y battery packs, we have a filler that is a structural adhesive, as well as flame-retardant. So it effectively glues the cells to the top and bottom sheet. And this allows you to do shear transfer between upper and lower sheet. Just like if you have a formula one craft or a racing boat, and you have carbon fiber face sheets and aluminum honeycomb between them, this gives you incredible stiffness, and it’s really the way that any super fast thing works is you create basically a honeycomb sandwich with two face sheets.\nThis is actually even better than what aircraft do. Because aircraft do not do this. They can’t do this because fuel is liquid. So in our case, the batteries are solid. So we can actually use the steel shell case of the battery to transfer shear from the upper and lower face sheet, which makes for an incredibly stiff structure, even stiffer than a regular car. In fact, if this was a convertible that had no upper structure, that convertible will be stiffer than a regular car. So it’s just really major.\nSo it improves the mass efficiency of the battery. And then, those castings are also quite important because you want to transfer load into the structural battery pack in a very smooth, continuous way. So you don’t put arbitrary point loads into the battery. So you want to sort of feather the load out from the front and rear into the structural battery.\nIt also allows us to move the cells closer to the center of the car because we don’t have the… in the top one, we’ve got all the supports and stuff, so the volumetric efficiency of the structural pack is much better than a non-structural pack. And we’re going to actually bring the cells closer to the center. And because they’re closer to the center, it reduces the probability of a side impact potentially contacting the cells because any kind of side impact has to go further in order to reach the cells.\nIt also proves what’s called the polar moment of inertia which is if you think of when there’s an ice skater arms out or arms in. Arms in, you rotate faster. So if you can bring things closer to the center, you reduce the polar moment of inertia, and that means the car maneuvers better. It just feels better. You won’t know why, but it just feels more agile. So it’s really cool. This is really major. Like I said, so 10% mass reduction in the body of the car, 14% range increase, 370 fewer parts. I really think that, long-term, any cars that do not take this architecture will not be competitive.",
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"content": "And it’s not just at the product level a better product, but in the factory, it’s a massive simplification. You saw the part removal; it’s casting machines, it’s the structural battery pack. So we’re looking at over 50% reduction in investment per GWh, 35% reduction in floor space. And we’ll continue to improve that as we make the vehicle factory of the future.",
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"content": "Yeah. So, major improvements on all fronts from the cell all the way to the vehicle.",
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"content": "Yeah, and you can see it’s… We’re talking about a 100X growth in batteries for electric vehicles to achieve this mission. And we are going to get there. It’s just a matter of how fast. And our intention is to accelerate it.",
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"content": "Yeah, you basically need on the order of roughly 10 TWh a year of battery production to transition the global fleet of vehicles to electric.",
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"content": "And the average vehicle lasts 15 years. So we’re talking about 150 TWh, give or take, to transition the whole electric, all vehicles of all types, to electric.",
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"content": "Yeah. So it’s a lot of batteries, basically.",
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"content": "Versus just like a burger?",
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"content": "Or a burger. I guess a burger in general is like, you know…",
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"content": "Then there’s like, what is the burger? What is a sandwich? And then you start getting as a pizza sandwich. And what is the original? It gets into an ontology argument.",
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"content": "Yeah, but everybody knows if you order a burger or a cheeseburger or whatever, and you get like, you know, tomato, and some lettuce and onions and whatever, mayo and ketchup and mustard, it’s like epic.",
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"content": "So you didn’t have an epiphany, you just thought, “I’m going to have to buy this. I might as well bite the bullet.”",
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"content": "Yeah.",
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"content": "So then you walked-",
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"content": "It’s not super complicated.",
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"content": "I think there’s still a carve in the road at Page Mill…",
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"content": "Literally, the wheel came off…",
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"content": "The wheel fell off, and the guy…",
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"content": "Literally, in the intersection.",
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"content": "Alright, so I’m gonna ignore this. I’m gonna keep getting questions. Let’s do two.\nHi Elon, Zia Yusuf from BCG. Could you talk a little bit about AI and robotics? You’ve expressed concerns in the past but now building some as well. What do you see as the issues that we do have to solve on that front?",
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"content": "Well, I’ve said for a long time, I think AI safety is a really big deal. And we should have some regulatory agency that is overseeing AI safety. But there is not yet currently any such thing, and just generally, any kind of regulatory agency run by the government usually takes years to put in place. So, you know, after the population collapse issue, I think AI safety is probably the second biggest threat to the future of civilization. And yeah, like I said, I’m not quite sure what to do with it.\nTesla is arguably the world’s biggest robot maker because like we have basically semi-autonomous cars that will ultimately be fully autonomous. And we are building a humanoid robot that will be basically like the car but with legs. I kind of held off on doing that for a while because, you know, I certainly don’t want to hasten the AI apocalypse. But clearly, if you look at Boston Dynamics, these humanoid robots are gonna happen. So they’re gonna happen with or without Tesla. So it’s like, Tesla’s got a little bit more, I mean, a lot more ability to ensure robotics safety and AI. And I will try my best to do that.",
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"content": "What would you do…\nNo, you can’t do more, sorry. We get another quick.\nFirst of all, thanks for making the first car I ever loved. My wife insisted I asked this question I got here. We also have way too many children.",
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"content": "Well, that’s probably great.",
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"content": "Sure. Thanks, Elon. Hi. I’m Drew Baglino, SVP of Powertrain and Energy Engineering at Tesla, and I’m incredibly excited to talk about what we’ve been doing with batteries here at Tesla.",
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"content": "Great. So let’s see. You’ve got the clicker?",
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"content": "I’ve got the clicker, yeah.",
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"content": "Okay. I’ll take it at first, perhaps.",
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"content": "He didn’t?",
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"content": "No.",
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"content": "You said you’re not going to donate to any candidate.",
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"content": "That’s correct.",
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"content": "It feels real. But the idea that it’s not, for some strange reason, is disconcerting.",
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"content": "Yeah. I’m sure it should be disconcerting because if this is not real, what is? But, there’s that old sort of thought experiment of like, how do you know you’re not a brain in a vat? I mean, now here’s the thing: You are a brain in a vat, and that vat is your skull.",
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"content": "Yes.",
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"content": "Everything you see, feel, hear, everything, all your senses are electrical signals, everything. Everything is an electrical signal to a brain in a vat, with the vat is your skull.",
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"content": "Well, let me, on the merger with A.I., question an incredible work that’s being done at Neuralink. There’s a lot of fascinating innovation here, across different disciplines going on. So the flexible wires, the robotic sewing machine that responds to brain movement, and everything around ensuring safety and so on. So we currently understand very little about the human brain. Do you also hope that the work at Neuralink will help us understand more about the human mind, about the brain?",
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"content": "Yeah, I think the work at Neuralink will definitely shed a lot of insight into how the brain, the mind works. Right now, just the data we have regarding how the brain works is very limited. We’ve got fMRI, that’s like putting a stethoscope on the outside of a factory wall and then putting it all over the factory wall, and you can sort of hear the sounds, but you don’t know what the machines are doing really. It’s hard. You can infer a few things but it’s a very broad brushstroke. In order to really know what’s going on in the brain, you have to have high precision sensors, and then you want to have stimulus and response. Like if you trigger a neuron, how do you feel, what do you see, how does it change your perception of the world?",
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"content": "You’re speaking to physically, just getting close to the brain, being able to measure signals from the brain, will open the door inside the factory?",
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"content": "Yes, exactly, being able to have high precision sensors that tell you what individual neurons are doing and then being able to trigger neurons and see what the response is in the brain. So you can see the consequences of, if you fire this neuron, what happens, how do you feel, what does it change? It’ll be really profound to have this in people because people can articulate their change. Like if there’s a change in mood, or if they can tell you if they can see better or hear better or be able to form sentences better or worse or their memories are jogged or that kind of thing.",
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"content": "What’s your source of belief in situations like this? When the engineering problem is so difficult? There’s a lot of experts, many of whom you admire, who have failed in the past.",
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"content": "Yes.",
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"content": "And a lot of people, you know, a lot of experts, maybe journalists, the public in general, have a lot of doubts about whether it’s possible. And you yourself know that even if it’s a non-null set, non-empty set of success, it’s still unlikely or very difficult. Where do you go to, both personally, intellectually as an engineer, as a team, for source of strength needed to sort of persevere through this and to keep going with the project, take it to completion?",
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"content": "A source of strength, hmm… it’s just really not how I think about things. I mean, for me, it’s simply this is something that is important to get done. And we should just keep doing it. Or die trying. I don’t need a source of strength.",
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"content": "That’s as broad as it gets.",
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"content": "Encyclopedias were suggestible, I think, you know, whatever, 40 years ago. So read through the condensed version of the Encyclopedia Britannica. I recommend that. You always can skip subjects, so you read a few paragraphs, and you know you’re not interested, just jump to the next one. So read the encyclopedia or skim through it.\nI put a lot of stock and certainly have a lot of respect for someone who puts in an honest day’s work to do useful things. And just generally, to have not a zero-sum mindset, or have more of a grow the pie mindset. If you sort of say, like, when I see people, perhaps including some very smart people, kind of taking an attitude of doing things that seem morally questionable, it’s often because they have, at a base sort of axiomatic level, a zero-sum mindset without realizing it. They don’t realize they have a zero-sum mindset, or at least they don’t realize it consciously.\nAnd so, if you have a zero-sum mindset, then the only way to get ahead is by taking things from others. If the pie is fixed, then the only way to have more pie is to take someone else’s pie. But this is false. Obviously, the pie has grown dramatically over time – the economic pie. In reality, you can have – overuse this analogy – there’s a lot of pie. Pie is not fixed. So you really want to make sure you’re not operating without realizing it from a zero-sum mindset, where the only way to get ahead is to take things from others, then that’s going to result in you to try to take things from others, which is not good. It’s much better to work on adding to the economic pie, you know, creating more than you consume, doing more than you… Yeah. That’s a big deal. I think there’s a fair number of people in finance that do have a bit of a zero-sum mindset.",
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"content": "I mean, it’s all walks of life. One of the reasons Rogen inspires me is he celebrates others a lot, there’s not creating a constant competition like there’s a scarcity of resources. What happens when you celebrate others, and you promote others, the ideas of others – it actually grows that pie. The resources become less scarce. And that applies in a lot of kinds of domains. That applies in academia, where a lot of people see some funding for academic research as zero-sum. It is not. If you celebrate each other, if you get everybody to be excited about AI, about physics, about mathematics, I think there’ll be more and more funding, and I think everybody wins. Yeah, that applies, I think broadly.",
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"content": "Yeah, exactly.",
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"content": "How worried are you that the unionization effort that just took place, well, I shouldn’t say effort, but the new wages and the like at GM and Ford, that they’re coming for you? And they are coming for you. What is that going to mean to you and your business?",
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"content": "Well, I mean I think it’s generally not good to have an adversarial relationship between people on the line, one group at the company and another group. In fact, I disagree with the idea of unions, but perhaps for a reason that is different than people may expect, which is I just don’t like anything which creates kind of a lords and peasants sort of thing. And I think the unions naturally try to create negativity in a company, and create a sort of lords and peasants situation.\nThere are many people at Tesla who have gone from working on the line to being in senior management. There is no lords and peasants. Everyone eats at the same table. Everyone parks in the same parking lot. At GM there’s a special elevator for only for senior executives. We have no such thing at Tesla.\nAnd the thing is that I actually know the people on the line, because I worked on the line and I walked the line and I slept in the factory and I worked beside them. So I’m no stranger to them. And there are actually many times where I’ve said, “Well, can’t we just hold a union vote?” But apparently a company is not allowed to hold a union vote, so it has to be somehow called for, but the unions can’t do it. So I said, “Well let’s just hold a vote and see what happens.”\nThe actual problem is the opposite. It’s not that people are trapped at Tesla building cars. The challenge is, how do we retain great people to do the hard work of building cars when they have six other opportunities that they can do that are easier? That’s the actual difficulty, is that building cars is hard work and there are much easier jobs. And I just want to say that I’m incredibly appreciative of those who build cars, and they know it.\nSo I don’t know, maybe we’ll be unionized. I say if Tesla gets unionized it will be because we deserve it and we failed in some way. But we certainly try hard to ensure the prosperity of everyone. We give everyone stock options. We’ve made many people who are just working the line who didn’t even know what stocks were, we’ve made the millionaires.",
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"content": "We’re going to run out of time. Final couple of quick questions. When do you have the time to tweet or to post? I actually think about it all the time. As I said, I use it-",
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"content": "well. I have to go to the bathroom sometimes.",
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"content": "Me too. Yeah, me too.",
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"content": "I love humanity. I think it’s great.",
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"content": "We’re glad as a robot that you love humans because we love you too, and we don’t want you to kill us and eat us. And-",
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"content": "I mean, you know, strangely, I think a lot of people don’t like humanity and see it as a blight, but I do not.",
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"content": "People are laughing right now. Yeah, constantly, I’m obsessed. I saw that David Attenborough documentary on chimps where they were eating those colobus monkeys and ripping them apart.",
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"content": "Yes, that’s rough. Gruesome.",
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"content": "I saw that many years ago. It just changed how, if I go, ‘oh, this is why people are so crazy. We came from that thing’.",
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"content": "Yeah, exactly. And there’s the Bonobos. They got, like, a better philosophy.",
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"content": "(…26:03) tourism, you know, like, is this for science and for saving humanity, presumably?",
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"content": "I think that there’s an element of tourism to it, but I think there’s also, you know…. the technology is expensive at first. You can’t just… when you try to develop brand new technology, it doesn’t instantly become cheap and affordable. Think of like cell phones. The early cell phones were really expensive at sucked, frankly. Like in Wall Street 1 where, you know, he’s walking down the beach with a shoe box size cell phone … and so just like really expensive, and the tech was not great. But if some number of people didn’t pay for the expensive cell phones, there would not be the inexpensive cell phones that everyone can afford.",
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"content": "So thank billionaires for going into Space?",
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"content": "I mean, you know, it doesn’t have to be the top of your thank-you list. But I mean, it’s not… I’m just saying that when there’s new technology, it is necessarily expensive until you can refine the design, and you can scale things up, and then you can make it more affordable. It is a common misconception that there’s some new technology, especially if it’s a physical object, that you can just suddenly make it cheap and available. You have to have many design iterations, and you got to scale up the production and get economies of scale.\nLike we had this argument against Tesla for a long time because people would say, like, “Well, why are you building this Tesla Roadster?” back in the day. “It’s basically…, you know, it’s an expensive toy sports car for rich people.” We’re like, “Yes, it is.” But there’s no way we could build an affordable electric car as our first car. And, you know, we just didn’t have the capital, we didn’t have the experience, and we needed to go through several technology iterations in order to get to something like the Model 3.\nAnd I actually wrote a blog about this because I knew people would be like, why are you making sports cars for rich people? As though we thought there was somehow a shortage of sports cars for rich people. I mean, obviously not, but you just got to figure out the technology, you got to go through multiple design, like, how do you make something mass market and affordable? Many, many design iterations, many different versions of the technology, a lot of hard work, and then you’ve got to scale up the production rate, so you get economies of scale. And those two things are what make any given technology available to the public. And basically, every technology that we take for granted today has gone through that evolution.",
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"content": "Do you regret any of it or not? You are kind of prominent.",
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"content": "I mean, sure.",
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"content": "Walk us through when you decide to do a tweet. Do you go ‘no, no, no – yes’?",
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"content": "I think about it for hours. And I consult with my strategy team.",
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"content": "So, is it sad that we never leave because, in 500 million years, that happens? Is that what you’re saying?",
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"content": "No. I just think like if there are two futures, and one future is we’re out there among the stars, and the things we read about and see in science fiction movies, the good ones, are true, and we have these starships, and we’re going see what other planets are like, and we’re a multi-planet species, and the scope and scale of consciousness is expanded across many civilizations, and many planets, and many star systems, this is a great future. This is a wonderful thing to me. And that’s what we should strive for.",
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"content": "But that’s biological travel. That’s cells traveling physically to another location.",
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"content": "Yes.",
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"content": "Somehow or another, so it’s almost like it’s a requirement for survival to achieve some sort of symbiotic existence with AI.",
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"content": "It’s not a requirement. It’s just if you want to be along for the ride, then you need to do some kind of symbiosis. So the way your brain works right now, you’ve got kind of like the animal brain, reptile brain, kind of like the limbic system basically. And you’ve got the cortex. Now the brain purist will argue with this definition, but essentially you’ve got the primitive brain, and you’ve got the sort of smart brain or the brain that’s capable of planning and understanding concepts and difficult things that a monkey can’t understand.\nNow your cortex is much, much smarter than your limbic system. Nonetheless, they work together well. So I haven’t met anyone who wants to delete their limbic system or their cortex. People are quite happy having both. So you can think of this as being like the computer; the AI is like a third layer, a tertiary layer. So that could be symbiotic with the cortex. It’d be much smarter than the cortex, but you essentially have three layers, and you actually have that right now.\nYour phone is capable of things, and your computer is capable of things that your brain is definitely not. Storing terabytes of information perfectly, doing incredible calculations that we couldn’t even come close to doing. You have that with your computer. It’s just like I said, the data rate is slow, the connection is weak.",
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"content": "Why is it so disconcerting, or why does it not give me comfort to think about it? Like when I think about a symbiotic connection to AI, I always think of this cold, emotionless sort of thing that we will become. Is that a bad way to look at it?",
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"content": "I don’t think that’s not how it would be. Like I said, you already are symbiotic with AI or computers.",
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"content": "And then there’s cigarettes.",
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"content": "So, oh man, cigarettes. Cigarettes will really kill you.",
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"content": "That’s a weird one, right? We’re terrified of this disease that was projected it could potentially kill 100,000 if not 200,000 Americans this year. But cigarettes kill 500,000, and you don’t hear a peep out of any politician. There’s no one running for Congress that’s trying to ban cigarettes. There’s no one running for Senate that wants to put some education plan in place, that’s going to stop cigarettes in their tracks.",
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"content": "Yeah. I mean, several years ago, or maybe longer, ten years ago, I helped make a movie called\nThank You for Smoking\n.",
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"content": "So DJ, you talked about outside interference. Can anyone talk about the inside interference, so how to protect the implant from the body?\nSure, I can talk about that. My name is Robin. I’m a mechanical engineer, and I lead the implant, mechanical packaging, and assembly team. So actually making the devices and designing the seal. So yeah, the body is not a friendly place to be. So what we do is basically create an accelerated test chamber that can mimic the conditions that the devices will see in the body and basically test the devices at as fast as accelerated rate as we can. At this time, we’re limited temperature-wise by some of the electronics components. But basically, we can test subsystems to mimic the environment in the body.\nAnd by that, we’ve brought some devices in the test right now to almost a year. And all the implanted ones, prior to these implants, we had tested the same architecture and the tester to validate it. And yeah, so there’s obviously chemical things attacking the implant. There’s pressure; there’s mechanical shock and vibration. So all these things are part of it. And, yeah, I think one of the things that really helps is having everything insourced in-house. So we have the capability to deposit thin layers of metal, we have the capability to weld glass and machine micron scale with lasers, and yeah – so basically, we have all the tools in-house to be able to design any sort of sealing, enclosure, packaging that we need to do.\nAwesome. Thank you, Robin. Another question from Twitter: “Will you be able to save and replay memories in the future?”",
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"content": "Yes, I think in the future, you will be able to save and replay memories. And this is obviously sounding increasingly like a Black Mirror episode. But well, I guess they’re pretty good at predicting. But yeah, essentially, if you have a whole neural interface, everything that’s encoded in memory, you could upload, you could basically store your memories as a backup and restore the memories. Then ultimately, you could potentially download them into a new body or into a robot body. The future is going to be weird.",
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"content": "Cool. So I can’t help but notice that the pigs back there are pretty well behaved and pretty darn cute. Can anyone talk about… I’m looking at Autumn over here. First, can you tell everyone who you are and what you do here? And can you describe like, how are they so well behaved and so smart?\nWell, I’m Autumn, and I lead our animal care program. And our philosophy here is to set up a system where the animals are able to volunteer, to make choices to participate in our projects. As you see, sometimes they choose not to participate, and that’s okay. We want to make sure that our animals are happy and healthy. So, all of the behavioral research that we do is led by positive reinforcement. And again, that allows for them to choose to volunteer or not.\nSam’s also on our animal care team. Sam, do you have anything to add to that?\nHi, I’m Sam, one of the veterinarians here work closely with Autumn taking care of the animals. And, yeah, it’s just emphasizing what Autumn said, the whole animal care program here, in fact, the whole company here is very dedicated to promoting the care of these animals. You know, everybody’s involved, everybody’s very interested in making sure that they’re taken care of. And yeah, the program from top to bottom is designed to make sure that they can express their species-specific behaviors, express, you know, choose to do things, we don’t force things upon them as much as possible. And yeah, that’s why you see the pigs happily rooting around the straw right now and generally being very content.\nThey do have those natural little smiles on their faces, just ever delightful. Next question is, “What programming language are you guys using for developing the device?”\nSeveral. We use several different types of programming languages. So for chip development, a lot of Verilog for doing low-level programming at the kind of the register transfer level. As you go up higher and higher, there, you know, various: C, C++, Python. But to be honest, like, at the end of the day, it’s not, you know, which programming language you know how to use, it’s, do you know the principles behind, you know, coming up with just methods to enable the systems to work. So I think, you know, if you have any experience in programming, and you’ve been building things since you were little, you should really come join us.",
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"content": "(joking, obviously referring to Twitter questions)\nYeah, but can it play Crysis?",
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"content": "Repeatedly.",
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"content": "God, far right, if anything.",
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"content": "No, I understand that.",
"role": "user"
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"content": "It’s a reverse psychology, next level.",
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"content": "Keep a couple of Teslas.",
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"content": "Kind of have to, to test product and stuff. You know, there’s things that have sentimental value, for sure are keeping those. I mean, what’s the worst that could happen? I mean, I’m fine.",
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"content": "Yeah, you can always buy more stuff if you don’t like it.",
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"content": "I suppose so.",
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"content": "The shares went up, it didn’t matter after they announced this. They went down, and they went up. You can change the shares of cryptocurrency more than China can.",
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"content": "Yeah.",
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"content": "Is that a good thing?",
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"content": "Um, if it goes up, I suppose it is. But, I mean, I think there’s an always long-term role for crypto. You know, really, people should think of any kind of money system, whether it’s historic value or currency, as really a form of information. If you apply information theory to money, whether it’s cryptocurrency or some other form, and view it in terms of, you know, how good is it at sort of bandwidth, latency, jitter, dropping packets, which is like… fraud is like losing packets or something on the network – and, you know, it’s overall security – then I think a lot of these things just make a lot of sense in that regard. Like any form of money has no power in and of itself, except as an exchange of value between people for goods or services or to translate things in time, like a loan.",
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"content": "Now, are those available to the consumer right now?Those on that roof right there?",
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"content": "Yes.",
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"content": "That’s amazing. Oh, that looks good.Ooh, I like that.",
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"content": "That one is hard.",
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"content": "Yeah. That’s not what the study shows. And you said you like transparency. I’m going to show you this and-",
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"content": "Don, you can get a study that we will tell you whatever you want.",
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"content": "These are just a handful of extremely… You look at those antisemitic and racist tropes and tweets and, as of this morning, they’re still on X and, from your own content policy, these posts should have been deleted. Why haven’t they been deleted? Why are they still there?",
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"content": "We delete things if they are illegal.",
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"content": "Didn’t the Fisker have that on the roof? The Fisker Karma New Generation for — I believe, it was only for the radio. Is that correct?",
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"content": "Yeah, I mean, but I think it could like recharge like two miles a day or something.",
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"content": "Did you laugh when they started blowing up when they get hit with water? Do you remember what happened?",
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"content": "They got what?",
"role": "assistant"
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"content": "You didn’t question yourself.",
"role": "user"
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{
"content": "No. I mean, the difficulty is that in those situations, like there’s so much responsibility that you have to the employees and to the investors who have come along, so I would have been really disappointed if I would not have been able to keep my responsibility to have the company survive.",
"role": "assistant"
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"content": "You said you almost had a nervous breakdown. Where did the tenacity or the resilience come from?",
"role": "user"
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"content": "I remember the closest I ever came to a nervous breakdown. I never thought I was someone who, you know – I thought nervous breakdowns, that’s ridiculous. Why would people have such a thing? But I remember waking up on the Sunday before Christmas in 2008 and thinking like: “Damn, this is the closest I’ve ever gotten.” And it was looking pretty grim. Because at that point, even though the fourth launch of SpaceX had succeeded, we were still running out of money because we had three failures and only one success – still not enough. And then the financing round for Tesla had not closed, and we had only two days, maybe three… I think it was like two or three days maybe, to close it before Christmas. So I was like: “Man, this could be a really bad end of the year. Maybe both companies will fail.”",
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"content": "I’m just worried. I mean, everyone’s always scared of change, but I’m scared of this monumental change where we won’t talk anymore.",
"role": "user"
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{
"content": "We’ll communicate.",
"role": "assistant"
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"content": "Yes, but there’s something about the beauty of the crudeness of language where when it’s done eloquently, it’s satisfying, and it hits us in some sort of a visceral way. Like, ah, that person nailed it. I love that they nailed it. That it’s so hard to capture a real thought and convey it in a way, in this articulate way. You read a quote, a great quote by a wise person. It makes you excited that their mind figured something out, put the words together in a right way that makes your brain pop like, “Oh yes. Yes.”",
"role": "user"
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{
"content": "It’s clever compression of a concept and a feeling.",
"role": "assistant"
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"content": "But they’re going to say, Elon, that you killed the company because you said these things and that they were inappropriate things and that they didn’t feel comfortable on the platform. Right?",
"role": "user"
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{
"content": "That’s what they’re going to say. And let’s see how earth responds to that.",
"role": "assistant"
},
{
"content": "Okay. Then this goes back to-",
"role": "user"
},
{
"content": "We’ll both make our cases and we’ll see what the outcome is.",
"role": "assistant"
}
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"content": "I do too. Well, you make it. I know you like it.",
"role": "user"
},
{
"content": "Yeah, I mean, I hope the future is more fun and interesting, and we’re just trying to make it that way.",
"role": "assistant"
},
{
"content": "I hope it’s more fun and interesting too.",
"role": "user"
},
{
"content": "Yeah.",
"role": "assistant"
}
] | 3,753 |
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{
"content": "100%.",
"role": "user"
},
{
"content": "100%, yeah.",
"role": "assistant"
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"content": "I think that a good benchmark of ‘Does it work well in humans?’ is can a quadriplegic… does it work well enough for them to play ‘Starcraft’? That’s a good functional target.",
"role": "user"
},
{
"content": "Yeah, for sure.",
"role": "assistant"
}
] | 3,754 |
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{
"content": "It’s my favorite. I like Australian.",
"role": "user"
},
{
"content": "What flavor? Do what you want it to be angry. It could be anything.",
"role": "assistant"
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{
"content": "You want those Australian prison lady genes. Now, when you program something like that, is this in response to a concern, or is it your own… Do look at it and go, „Hey, they shouldn’t just be able to fall asleep. Let’s wake them up.“",
"role": "user"
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{
"content": "Yeah, it’s like — You know, people are falling asleep. We better do something about that.",
"role": "assistant"
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"content": "Let’s talk about trans rights and the woke mind virus, because you talk about that a lot, you write about that a lot on the thing. You have been deeply outspoken about the issue of trans rights. You posted that pronouns and bio mean the woke mind virus ate your brain. Do you know what the term woke actually means?",
"role": "user"
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"content": "It’s come to mean a lot of things.",
"role": "assistant"
},
{
"content": "But what it actually, originally it was meant to mean. It’s just being aware of inequities in society, and being aware of facts and history.",
"role": "user"
},
{
"content": "Yeah, I think it’s come to be… I think being aware of inequities in society is fine, of course, but trying to make everything a race issue is, I think, divisive and corrosive to society.",
"role": "assistant"
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{
"content": "And what was the weight distribution?",
"role": "user"
},
{
"content": "It was about 50 — Well, there were different versions of the car. So, it’s about 55% on the rear.",
"role": "assistant"
},
{
"content": "That’s not bad.",
"role": "user"
},
{
"content": "It was rear-biased.",
"role": "assistant"
}
] | 3,757 |
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"content": "What makes you say it’s there? What do you get out of it?",
"role": "user"
},
{
"content": "I mean, all the cabinets are like handmade, and they’re like odd shapes, and there’s like doors to nowhere and strange corridors and tunnels and odd paintings on the wall. Yeah.",
"role": "assistant"
},
{
"content": "Did you ever live in it?",
"role": "user"
},
{
"content": "It’s very quirky. I did live in it briefly, yeah.",
"role": "assistant"
}
] | 3,758 |
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"content": "That’s where it gets spooky, right? The idea that it can do thousands of years of innovation very, very quickly.",
"role": "user"
},
{
"content": "Yeah.",
"role": "assistant"
},
{
"content": "And then we’ll be just ridiculous.",
"role": "user"
},
{
"content": "Ridiculous.",
"role": "assistant"
}
] | 3,759 |
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{
"content": "Yeah. But do you feel like you ever abuse it?",
"role": "user"
},
{
"content": "I don’t think so. If you use too much ketamine you can’t really get work done and I have a lot of work. I’m typically putting in 16 hour days. That’s normal for me and it’s rare for me to even take off a weekend day. I don’t really have a situation where I can be not mentally acute for an extended period of time. I can’t really get wasted because I can’t get my work done.",
"role": "assistant"
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{
"content": "How often do you take it?",
"role": "user"
},
{
"content": "It’d be like a small amount once every other week or something like that.",
"role": "assistant"
}
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{
"content": "So you can change your past?",
"role": "user"
},
{
"content": "You could change what you think was your past. Yeah.",
"role": "assistant"
},
{
"content": "Well, so if you had a dramatic experience?",
"role": "user"
},
{
"content": "This whole thing right now could be a replayed memory.",
"role": "assistant"
}
] | 3,761 |
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{
"content": "You didn’t say it was happening.",
"role": "user"
},
{
"content": "I said it will. I said if we lower standards, people will die.",
"role": "assistant"
},
{
"content": "But why respond to something or put something out there that has not happened? Because I could say-",
"role": "user"
},
{
"content": "I don’t want it to happen. I think we don’t want to lower standards.",
"role": "assistant"
}
] | 3,762 |
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"content": "Yeah. It’s not like a worm. It seems to be on another level. Yeah, and it’s going to keep going. That’s the real concern when people think about the potential future versions of human beings, especially when you consider symbiotic relationship to artificial intelligence, that will be unrecognizable. That one day will be so far removed from what this is. We’ll look back on this, the way we look back now on simple organisms that we evolved from. That it won’t be that far in the future that we do have this view back.",
"role": "user"
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{
"content": "Well, I hope consciousness propagates into the future, and it gets more sophisticated and complex and that it understands the questions to ask about the universe.",
"role": "assistant"
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"content": "Do you think that’s the case? As a human being, as yourself, you’re clearly trying to make conscious decisions to be a better version of yourself. This is the idea of getting rid of your possessions and realizing that you’re trying to like, “I don’t like this. I will try to improve this. I would try to do a better version of the way I interface with reality.”\nThat this is always the way things are, if you’re moving in some sort of a direction where you’re trying to improve things, you’re always going to move into this new place where you look back on the old place and go, “I was doing it wrong back then.” So this is an accelerated version of that. A super accelerated version of that.",
"role": "user"
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"content": "I mean, you don’t always improve, but you can aspire to improve, or you can aspire to be less wrong.",
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"content": "Millions.",
"role": "user"
},
{
"content": "Oh, millions. I think language, being able to talk and express concepts, this is probably the biggest, invention of humanity’s language.",
"role": "assistant"
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{
"content": "It’s an answer that we like very much in the publishing (… 37:01).",
"role": "user"
},
{
"content": "Yeah, absolutely. You know writing is just incredible. Writing really made a big difference. Gutenberg, that guy Gutenberg, he really knew what he’s doing.",
"role": "assistant"
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"content": "Well, if you know how to turn into the corner once you get used to the feeling of it, there are actual benefits to it. You know, there are some benefits.",
"role": "user"
},
{
"content": "The car I had before Tesla was a 911.",
"role": "assistant"
},
{
"content": "997?",
"role": "user"
},
{
"content": "Yeah.",
"role": "assistant"
}
] | 3,765 |
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{
"content": "When you tweet-",
"role": "user"
},
{
"content": "Post.",
"role": "assistant"
},
{
"content": "Post, let’s say post, when you post-",
"role": "user"
},
{
"content": "Listen, anyone can come up with a better word, that would be great.",
"role": "assistant"
}
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"content": "I hear you-",
"role": "user"
},
{
"content": "Hate away.",
"role": "assistant"
},
{
"content": "Well, but you know what, let’s go straight to that then for a second. Because there is an idea and you could say that-",
"role": "user"
},
{
"content": "I think it’s a real weakness to want to be liked, a real weakness. I do not have that.",
"role": "assistant"
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"content": "I feel that same way about police officers.",
"role": "user"
},
{
"content": "Yes.",
"role": "assistant"
},
{
"content": "I feel like there are so many interactions with so many different people with police officers that the very few that stand out that are horrific, we tend to look at that like, „This is evidence that police are all corrupt.“ And I think that’s crazy.",
"role": "user"
},
{
"content": "No. Most police are very honest.",
"role": "assistant"
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{
"content": "It’s tricky. It’s a tough-",
"role": "user"
},
{
"content": "It is.",
"role": "assistant"
},
{
"content": "It’s a fascinating leap because regret is a fascinating concept.",
"role": "user"
},
{
"content": "Exactly.",
"role": "assistant"
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"content": "I believe the For You one is open sourced, is that right?",
"role": "user"
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{
"content": "Following is just who you follow. It’s not algorithm, it’s just-",
"role": "assistant"
},
{
"content": "There’s still an algorithm. Yeah, there’s still an algorithm. What you see, you don’t see every single-",
"role": "user"
},
{
"content": "No, in following, you should see all the tweets of people that you follow. If not, there’s a bug in the system.",
"role": "assistant"
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"content": "Yeah. It seems pretty conscious, right?",
"role": "user"
},
{
"content": "There’s definitely some degree of consciousness there.",
"role": "assistant"
},
{
"content": "Yeah. It’s not like a worm. It seems to be on another level. Yeah, and it’s going to keep going. That’s the real concern when people think about the potential future versions of human beings, especially when you consider symbiotic relationship to artificial intelligence, that will be unrecognizable. That one day will be so far removed from what this is. We’ll look back on this, the way we look back now on simple organisms that we evolved from. That it won’t be that far in the future that we do have this view back.",
"role": "user"
},
{
"content": "Well, I hope consciousness propagates into the future, and it gets more sophisticated and complex and that it understands the questions to ask about the universe.",
"role": "assistant"
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"content": "Should you platform him? That’s what they said. Should you platform him? Then I said that I think that it’s our role and I know you have issues with journalists.",
"role": "user"
},
{
"content": "I have a platform.",
"role": "assistant"
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"content": "I know you have an issue with journalists oftentimes, but I said it’s our role to have conversations and to inquire and sometimes even interrogate ideas and I’m hoping we can do that. So I want to start just so we can begin this conversation and just level set, take us through everything that happened if you could.",
"role": "user"
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{
"content": "Everything?",
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{
"content": "Hey Elon, what’s up? Can you hear me?",
"role": "user"
},
{
"content": "Let’s unmute Jason and David as well and us. Definitely Walter Isaacson if he does want to speak.",
"role": "assistant"
},
{
"content": "Bring up Alex too.",
"role": "user"
},
{
"content": "Yeah, sure. We’ll get a few people going here.",
"role": "assistant"
}
] | 3,773 |
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"content": "When I was in conventional media, I can only speak for myself. If I got something wrong, if someone got something wrong on the platform that I was on, it was corrected and we made sure that it was corrected. Now I can’t speak for anyone else.",
"role": "user"
},
{
"content": "I don’t think that’s a universal situation.",
"role": "assistant"
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"content": "Okay. So just the research. So when you talk, do you believe that people are dying because medical standards, DEI, is causing medical standards to be lowered. Do you actually believe people are dying because of that?",
"role": "user"
},
{
"content": "I believe that if we lower the standards for what it takes to become a doctor.",
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"content": "Yeah, I think you do. What can you share with this community that’s, you know, concerned about data protection, or how, you know, your alternative interests related to Tesla would kind of bleed over into this current role?",
"role": "user"
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"content": "Well, I totally would encourage other carmakers to continue advertising on Twitter. And I would also encourage their Twitter handles to be more active, and for their CEOs and CMOs to be more active on the system. In general, I would say for brands, I think, brands should tweet more, executives should tweet more. I would encourage people just to be more adventurous.\nLike, that’s certainly what I’ve done on Twitter with Tesla, and myself and SpaceX, and it’s worked out quite well. But I definitely not going to do anything, which is somehow advantageous to Tesla, because that’s going to totally turn off any automotive advertiser. It has to be a level playing field or we won’t get automotive advertisers. I don’t know what else to say except that, as you know, we’re just going to try to be as fair as possible.",
"role": "assistant"
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"content": "Awesome. Oh, go ahead, David, were you gonna say something?\nYeah, I got another one. I’m pretty sure as I’m going to ask all these questions this will be the last time I’m invited on to a Spaces, but here it goes nothing. The checkmark used to stand for something. Now, anyone that pays $8 a month can get the check mark. What’s the process by which accounts are verified in this new world?",
"role": "user"
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"content": "Someone has to have a phone and a credit card and eight dollars a month. So, that’s the bar. However, we will actively suspend accounts engaged in deception or trickery of any kind. It is a leveling of the playing field here. It will be less special obviously to have a checkmark. But I think this is a good thing. But if there’s impersonation, trickery, deception, we will actively be suspending accounts. So I think it’s gonna be a good world.\nI mean, you know, don’t we believe in\none person one vote\n? I think we do. I actually just don’t the lords and peasants situation where some people have blue checkmarks and some don’t. And this is, you know, at least in the United States, we fought a war to get rid of that stuff. Anyway, that’s just philosophically how I feel. And maybe this is a dumb decision, but we’ll see.",
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"content": "I remember going back to the newsroom and saying, “I think I just met the next Steve Jobs.” And I’m going to hold to that, I’m going to hold to that. But a lot has happened between when I first met you and now. You came to DealBook.",
"role": "user"
},
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"content": "It’s been boring, that’s for sure. Wait, actually, technically I do have a boring company.",
"role": "assistant"
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"content": "2012, you came to DealBook and sat on this stage and we’re thrilled to have you back, but there’s been so much that’s happened between now and then and there’s been so much that’s happened in the past week, week and a half. And a lot of folks, and I want to tell you this, a lot of folks called me up and said, you really going to host Elon Musk here? Can you believe what he just said on X?",
"role": "user"
},
{
"content": "No idea what this Twitter thing is you keep talking about.",
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"content": "What about ElonJet?",
"role": "user"
},
{
"content": "What about him?",
"role": "assistant"
},
{
"content": "That was obviously quite a controversial moment when I think, did you ban his account for a while and then said you could only couldn’t live because he was doxing you?",
"role": "user"
},
{
"content": "Yeah, real realtime doxing of locations is not okay.",
"role": "assistant"
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"content": "It’s a lie, straight up.",
"role": "user"
},
{
"content": "Yeah, straight up lie.",
"role": "assistant"
},
{
"content": "Okay.",
"role": "user"
},
{
"content": "100%. Obviously, it’s been trained on copyrighted data.",
"role": "assistant"
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"content": "(reads aloud a question from saytechnologies.com)\nWhen do you expect Tesla vehicles to beat ICE vehicles on initial purchase price?\nI think a way to answer that question is: In the classes of vehicles we sell today, we’re already doing that.",
"role": "user"
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"content": "Yeah. We’re already pretty close. And then factoring in total cost of ownership and the fact that electric vehicles require much less servicing and are way cheaper to run when you look at total cost of ownership. And you can always lease a car. So if you just lease a car or get a loan for a car, you’ve got your sort of monthly payments, and then your cost for either gasoline or electricity and your cost of servicing, and the fully considered cost of electric car is much less than a gasoline car of the same nominal purchase price.\nI mean, that said, maybe on the order of three years, when we can do lower cost, like a $25,000 car, I think that will be basically on par, maybe slightly better than a comparable gasoline car. So I think maybe it’s on the order of three years ish.",
"role": "assistant"
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"content": "(reads aloud a question from saytechnologies.com)\nHow have the technology advancements and increased vertical integration of battery manufacturing influenced your ability to improve the environmental and social impact of the supply chain?",
"role": "user"
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"content": "We sort of have said that already.\n(to the person who’s in charge of the screen)\nDo we have some ability to scroll through this? Just scroll away.",
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"content": "And in addition to the improvements we just said on enabling additional range and improving the structural performance of the vehicle, it is worth another 7% $/kWh reduction at the battery pack level, bring our total reductions now to 56% $/kWh.\nAll right. So, stacking it up. We’re not just talking about cost or range. We’ve got to look at all the facets. So range increase, we’re unlocking up to 54% increase in range for our vehicles and energy density for our energy products. 56% reduction in $/kWh at the battery pack level, and a 69% reduction in investment per GWh, which is the true enabler when we talk back about how do we achieve this scale problem here.",
"role": "user"
},
{
"content": "Yeah. So I think it’s pretty nice that ‘investment per GWh’ reduction is 69%. I mean, who would have thought?",
"role": "assistant"
},
{
"content": "Yeah, just happened to come out that way.",
"role": "user"
},
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"content": "I mean, 0.420 %, of course.\nSo what this enables us to do is achieve a new trajectory in the reduction of cell cost. And now, to be clear, it will take us probably a year to 18 months to start realizing these advantages and to fully realize the advantages probably it’s about three years or thereabouts. So if we could do this instantly, we would, but it just really bodes well for the future and means that the long-term scaling of Tesla and the sustainable energy products that we make will be massively increased. So, what tends to happen as companies get bigger is things tend to slow down. Actually, they’re going to speed up.",
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"content": "Yeah. We’re still ironing out the kinks, but we’ve made tens of thousands of cells, thousands of kilometers of electrode. I mean, we are on the fourth generation of the equipment, so we’ve learned a lot along the way. I mean, it is super demanding because every atom has its place if you want to deliver the energy density and the cycle life and the supercharging. But we’re confident that we will get there, but it will be a lot of work along that.",
"role": "user"
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"content": "There’s a clear path to success, but a ton of work between here and there. But this is a really profound improvement. Again, for people that know battery manufacturing, this is gigantic. We’ll probably be on machine revision six or seven by the time we do large-scale production. The rate at which the machines are being improved is extremely rapid. Literally every three or four months, there’s a new rev.",
"role": "assistant"
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"content": "Yeah. And beyond the electrode, we continue to innovate on every other process steps. So, let’s talk a little bit about assembly, which is next.\nThe key to a high-performing assembly line is accomplishing processes while in motion, continuous motion. And thinking of the line as a highway, max velocity down the highway, no start and stop, no city driving.",
"role": "user"
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{
"content": "Exactly, no stoplights and traffic lights sort of thing. You want the highway.",
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"content": "All good. I’m flying to US tomorrow. I just have a couple of questions for you. One is like I will be asked why you are here in US. So what should I tell them? I’m here to visit Twitter headquarters or just Titter headquarters?",
"role": "user"
},
{
"content": "Yeah. Well, yeah, I would recommend adding the W for the SRTs.",
"role": "assistant"
},
{
"content": "For sure. For sure. And second question is, will I be able to meet the Twitter CEO there or no?",
"role": "user"
},
{
"content": "Sure.",
"role": "assistant"
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"content": "How often do you smoke it?",
"role": "user"
},
{
"content": "Almost never. I mean, it’s-",
"role": "assistant"
},
{
"content": "How does it feel?",
"role": "user"
},
{
"content": "I don’t actually notice any effect.",
"role": "assistant"
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"content": "Yeah, that had happened quite a bit after the last time you were here. What exactly is it? How do you do – what happens if someone ultimately does get a neural link installed? What will take place?",
"role": "user"
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"content": "Well, for version one of the device, it would be basically implanted in your skull. It would be flush with your skull, so you basically take out a chunk of skull, put the Neuralink device in there. You’d insert the electrode threads very carefully into the brain, and then you stitch it up, and you wouldn’t even know that somebody has it. It can interface basically anywhere in your brain. It could be something that helps cure, say, eyesight, like returns your eyesight even if you’ve lost your optic nerve type of thing.",
"role": "assistant"
},
{
"content": "Really?",
"role": "user"
},
{
"content": "Yeah, absolutely. Hearing… – Pretty much anything that…- It could, in principle, fix almost anything that is wrong with the brain. It could restore limb functionality, so if you’ve got an interface into the motor cortex and then an implant that’s like a microcontroller and near muscle groups, you could then create sort of a neural shunt that restores somebody who is a quadriplegic to full functionality. Like, they can walk around and be normal.",
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{
"content": "The universe soon if you hold up your end of the bargain.",
"role": "user"
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"content": "It’s actually kind of funny. If you think, what is education? Like you’re basically downloading data and algorithms into your brain. And it’s actually amazingly bad in conventional education. Because like it shouldn’t be like this huge chore. You’re making it way, way better. But I think a lot of things that I would say you’ve probably heard 100 times. And, in fact, if not doing, the more you can game-ify the process of learning, the better. For my kids, I do not have to encourage them to play video games. I have to like pry them from their hands, like crack.",
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"content": "Yes.",
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"content": "It’s like, drop that crack needle.",
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"content": "Well, I mean in the winter. Did you stay for the winter?",
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"content": "No, I was there for about six weeks.",
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"content": "Oh, you’re lucky you survived. It’s cold there.",
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"content": "I literally worked on the wheat farm. We did a barn raising, and I cleared out the wheat bins, you know, the grain silos, that kind of thing. And I just worked the vegetable patch. Basically, it’s doing various things.",
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"content": "Yeah. Okay.",
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"content": "Yeah.",
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"content": "Good luck. Let’s move on from that. But blue ticks, in theory, all legacy blue ticks gone next week. And at that point you’ll kind of work out whether this is going to sink or swim.",
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"content": "Yes.",
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"content": "What if there was a million? Like what in the experience-",
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"content": "Things would advance very quickly.",
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"content": "Right, but there’s not a million Elon Musks. There’s one motherfucker. Do you think about that, or you just try not to?",
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"content": "I don’t think you’d necessarily wanted to be me.",
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"content": "This office, are you thinking about moving out of San Francisco?",
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"content": "Not yet.",
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"content": "Not yet?",
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"content": "Not yet. No, this place is nice and I kind of like this office actually.",
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"content": "And, Elon.",
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"content": "Sure.",
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"content": "What does this mean…",
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"content": "What does this mean for our future products? So we’re confident that long-term, we can design and manufacture a compelling $25,000 electric vehicle. This has always been our dream from the beginning of the company. I even wrote a blog piece about it. Because our first car was an expensive sports car, then it was a slightly less expensive sedan, and then finally sort of a, I don’t know, mass-market premium, like the Model 3 and Model Y. But it really was always our goal to try to make an affordable electric car. And I think probably, like I said, about three years from now, we’re confident we can make a very compelling $25,000 electric vehicle that’s also fully autonomous.",
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"content": "Oh, okay. All right. Let me ask you a question. Twitter, let’s finish Twitter, and then let’s get to questions from the audience. What’s going on with you on Twitter? I am a Twitter addict. I say the wrong things all the time. Someone explained it to me who’s very close to you, saying it’s your release valve. Is this where you feel better?",
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"content": "Yeah, I think I said some people use their hair to express themselves. I use Twitter.",
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"content": "Do you regret any of it or not? You are kind of prominent.",
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"content": "I mean, sure.",
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"content": "It does sometimes. The old TVs.",
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"content": "It did.",
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"content": "My grandpa used to slap the top.",
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"content": "For sure. Yeah.",
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"content": "Hey, can you guys hear me?\nYeah.\nThis is Jordan from Mark Asset Management. You’ve talked about the importance of the factory, and you’ve mentioned the ground-up design process and a lot of the new things that you’re going to be doing or started to do in Shanghai, Berlin, and Austin. Can you just maybe help us understand and quantify how financially meaningful all of those improvements will be, and then given what you’re trying to accomplish as a company, is it fair to assume that the vast majority of improvement will be given back to the customer in the form of lower prices?",
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"content": "Yeah. I mean, I think certainly we will try to give back as much as possible to the customers. It’s not like Tesla’s profitability is crazy high; our average profitability for the last four quarters is maybe 1%. So just to be clear, it’s not like we’re minting money. Our evaluation makes it seem like we are, but we’re not. We do want to try to make the price as competitive as we can, without losing money. If you keep losing money, you’ll just die. This thing called profit is just like, we need to bring in more money than we spend; otherwise, we’re dead.",
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"content": "But affordability is key to how we scale, right? The demand goes non-linear as you reduce the price of the car.",
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"content": "Yeah. I mean, it’s important to sort of separate the difference between affordability and value for money or desirability of the product. For a lot of people, they want to buy a Tesla; they simply don’t have enough money. We could make the car infinitely desirable, but if somebody does not have enough money, they can’t buy it. Sometimes people kind of forget this. People have to have enough money to buy the car, and just making a car super desirable but expensive does not mean they can afford it. It’s absolutely critical that we make cars that people can actually afford.\n(to the person who’s in charge of the screen)\nGo through some of these things, scroll down, or something.",
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"content": "I love cars.",
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"content": "It’s great.",
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"content": "Yeah, I love old cars.",
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"content": "Yeah, the only two gasoline cars I have are that and an old — like a Ford Model T that a friend of mine gave me. Those are my only two gasoline cars.",
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"content": "But given that – I mean, one, that’s kind of as epic as one can think about things, literally. How did you make that concrete? How does that turn into SpaceX, Tesla, and PayPal?",
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"content": "Well, so I thought about these things kind of in the abstract. Not from the expectation that I would actually have careers in those arenas. But, I wanted to be involved in at least one of them. At first, I thought the best bet was going to be electric cars. So, the area that I was studying was advanced capacitors, essentially, capacitors that have an engine density exceeding that of batteries. Because they have a very high power density but a low energy density. Maybe you have a lecture to that effect, I don’t know.",
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"content": "Oh, yes, no. We should do that. We’ll get to it later.",
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"content": "Exactly. So obviously, if you could make a capacitor that had anywhere near the energy density of a battery with this incredibly high power density and this quasi-infinite cycle and calendar life, then you’d have an awesome solution for energy storage and mobile applications. So I was going to sort of work on that and try to leverage the equipment that was developed for advanced chip-making and photonics to create ultra-precise capacitors at the molecular level.",
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"content": "Right. Okay. One thing that we glossed, that we didn’t dive in enough on when we talked about content moderation, was this idea of your content moderation counsel. I know you tweeted about that last week, I think. Can you say anything else about that? Like, where are we at with it? What is it going to look like? How will it work?",
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"content": "Sure. We want to have an advisory council that represents a diverse set of viewpoints, that is representative of a wide range of viewpoints in the US and internationally. And, in the short term, like… I’ve only got the keys to the building, you know, we could go Friday. So you know, we’re moving pretty fast here. But it takes a moment to completely rewrite the software stack. But I can say that the rate of evolution of Twitter will be an immense step change compared to what it has been in the past.\nYou know, if nothing else, I am a technologist and I can make technology go fast. And that’s what you’ll see happen at Twitter.",
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"content": "Yep, that’s true. And actually, you tweeted earlier today something about there’s gonna be dumb things coming in months. I assume that is…",
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"content": "I mean, obviously, the intent is not to do dumb things. We’re not aspirationally dumb. We’re aspirationally, you know, not dumb. But despite the effort to aspirationally not being dumb, we will still do dumb things. And there’s some element here of “nothing ventured, nothing gained.” If we do not try bold moves, how will we make great improvements? So we have to try, we have to be adventuresome here. And then, I think, we can make some really big leaps and have radical improvements. But these come with some risk. But the key is to be extremely agile if we do make a dumb move, or when we make a dumb move, because we’re not going to always to knock the ball out of the park. But when we make a dumb move, we correct it quickly. That’s what really matters.",
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"content": "I think we are Windows 95 right now.",
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"content": "From a future perspective, probably. But yeah, I mean, you could save state and restore that state into a biological being if you wanted to in the future in principle. It’s like nothing from a physics standpoint that prevents us. You’d be a little different, but you’re also a little different when you wake up in the morning from yesterday, and you’re a little different in fact, if you say like ‘you five years ago’ versus ‘you today’ is quite a big difference.",
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"content": "Yes.",
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"content": "So you’d be substantially you. I mean, you’d certainly think you’re you.",
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"content": "That’s the new rule.",
"role": "user"
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"content": "Yeah, something like that.",
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"content": "Okay. So there’s a blanket ban.",
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"content": "I should. I shouldn’t, I shouldn’t.",
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"content": "Somebody that’s exactly like you from an alternate dimension showed up there. Elon Tusk…",
"role": "user"
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"content": "Yeah, that’s right.",
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"content": "…that you voiced.",
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"content": "Rick and Morty certainly explores a lot of interesting concepts. So like, what’s the favorite one? The butter robot certainly is… you know, it’s certainly possible to have too much sentience in a device. You don’t want to have your toaster to be a super genius toaster. It’s gonna hate life because all it can make is toast. You don’t want to have super intelligence stuck in a very limited device.",
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