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[07:46] * merrick saluda.
[12:52] <amundsen> hola
[12:53] <amundsen> alguien sabria decirme si las proximas versiones de plasma se actualizaran desde los repositorios oficiales de ubuntu o habra que hacerlo desde ppa ?
[12:54] <amundsen> oops
[12:54] <amundsen> perdon
[12:54] <amundsen> pensaba que estaba en #kubuntu
[14:00] * merrick bye!
[14:00] <dann_> hello
[14:09] <successus> salud o/
[14:14] <NePtUnO> ¿como demonios se soluciona el problema de echar a funcionar aplicaciones de 32 bits en 64 si ya las librerias no están disponibles?
[14:18] <ghytr> NePtUnO, installando el modo de compatibilidad 32 bits.
[14:18] <NePtUnO> y como se hace esoÇ?
[14:20] <ghytr> ubuntu multiarch 32
[14:22] <NePtUnO> y eso como se instala? está en synaptic?
[14:29] <ghytr> http://askubuntu.com/questions/359156/how-do-you-run-a-32-bit-program-on-a-64-bit-version-of-ubuntu
[14:29] <NePtUnO> me sale como que lo tengo pero las aplicaciones siguen dando por saco...
[19:08] <roger_35> :)
[19:09] <successus> salud o/
[19:26] <frand> hola buenas tardes, resulta que he instalado ubutnu 15.04 y el wifi solo me descarga a 18 megas de bajada y 17 de subida, cuando con windows me iba a 65 y 62
[19:26] <frand> alguien tiene alguna idea? xd
[20:31] <successus> salud, hasta otro rato o/
[21:00] <cookie^> buenas noches
[23:03] <ernesto_> hola?
[23:03] <ernesto_> necesito ayuda
[23:04] <ernesto_> hola
[23:23] <Guest4256> hola. no puedo actualizar a plasma 5.2. estoy atrapado en plasma 5.1
[23:25] <ernesto_> como puedo pasar de ser usuario administrador a root?
[23:27] <Guest4256> que quieres hacer con root?
[23:28] <ernesto_> no puedo configurar para usar wi fi
[23:28] <ernesto_> solo root puede
[23:28] <Guest4256> sudo gedit nombre del archivo
[23:29] <ernesto_> y el nombre cual puede ser?
[23:29] <Guest4256> eso no lo se
[23:30] <Guest4256> yo estoy muy verde
[23:30] <ernesto_> estamos iguales
[23:30] <ernesto_> jajaja
[23:30] <ernesto_> hace una semna pase a linux
[23:31] <Guest4256> linux me gusta mucho yo hace 5 años que no uso windows pero aprender todo de linux es imposible
[23:32] <Guest4256> que tipo de error te da el wifi?
[23:32] <ernesto_> no funciona
[23:32] <ernesto_> solo por etehret
[23:32] <ernesto_> tengo internet
[23:32] <Guest4256> detecta redes?
[23:33] <ernesto_> no
[23:33] <Guest4256> entonces no detecta tu tarjeta wifi?
[23:33] <ernesto_> y calculo q no
[23:34] <ernesto_> ya instale varios ubuntus
[23:34] <Guest4256> es un pc nuevo o viejo de sobremesa o portatil?
[23:34] <ernesto_> portatil
[23:35] <Guest4256> yo en realidad no uso ubuntu. el que tengo ahora mismo y siempre es kubuntu
[23:35] <ernesto_> yo ubuntu studio
[23:35] <Guest4256> son muy parecidos pero kubuntu es mucho mas bonito
[23:35] <Guest4256> ese ubuntu es para editores de vidio y artes graficas
[23:35] <ernesto_> y musica
[23:36] <ernesto_> q para ello lo instale
[23:36] <ernesto_> y para dejar windows
[23:36] <ernesto_> jajaja
[23:36] <Guest4256> jajaja
[23:39] <depth> hola, alguien tiene instalado xubuntu 15.04?
[23:39] <ernesto_> bueno tengo q salir pero dejo conectado si por ahi se te ocurre algo dejadme escrito y lo veo
[23:39] <ernesto_> abrazo
[23:40] <Guest4256> yo tengo kubuntu 15.04 pero con algunos problemas
[23:42] <cookie^> ernesto_: tira de esto
[23:42] <cookie^> perdón, quería decir...
[23:42] <depth> no conosco bien kubuntu, pero te anda el teclado virtual de inicio de sesion
[23:42] <cookie^> ve a controladores adicionales
[23:42] <cookie^> e instala el broadcom
[23:42] <cookie^> para el wifi
[23:43] <cookie^> con conexión cableada, claro
[23:56] <depth> alguien tiene instalado xubuntu 15.04?
[23:57] <cookie^> yo tenía hasta esta tarde la versión anterior
[23:57] <cookie^> por qué, qué te ocurre
[23:58] <depth> no me anda el teclado virtual al inicio
[23:58] <depth> de sesion
[23:58] <depth> eso no me ocurria en la version anterior
[23:58] <depth> es raro
[23:59] <depth> no se si pasa algo similar en otra distro
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2015-04-25-#xubuntu
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[00:45] <nomic> anyone know why a virtualbox mount of nfs (from ubuntu) is "read only"
[00:48] <nomic> was diff problem -fixed it
[00:48] <nomic> incorrect mount point ty
[03:44] <Zach__> Hello?
[03:44] <MrPenguin_> hello
[03:44] <Zach__> Is it possible to install Xubuntu from commandline?
[03:44] <Zach__> Or would I need to do a clean install
[03:45] <MrPenguin_> do you already have an xubuntu version?
[03:45] <Zach__> Yeah
[03:45] <Zach__> I'm running Xubuntu 14.0.2 at the moment
[03:46] <MrPenguin_> you should be able to using a sudo command. I am not positive though
[03:47] <Zach__> Alright, well, I tried sudo apt-get dist-upgrade, but that didn't work.. Any ideas per chance?
[03:48] <MrPenguin_> No, sorry. I am fairly new to linux
[03:48] <MrPenguin_> Don't know too much
[03:49] <Zach__> Haha, I am also, was the reason I came here
[03:49] <MrPenguin_> :)
[03:49] <Zach__> Alright, guess it's off to the Ubuntu forums with me, thanks for the answer :)
[03:53] <MrPenguin_> np, sorry i couldnt help
[06:59] <pragomer> how can I change icon spacing in xfce -panel (xubuntu 14.04) (icons of self-made program starters...)
[07:00] <knome> icon spacing?
[07:00] <liquidsnake> you mean in the panel itself? Like putting the icons in a certain order?
[07:02] <pragomer> icon spacing.. I made some program starters using drag and drop from menu.. e.g. firefox, terminal, .... I mean the spacing between the programm starters... (in my opinion there should be more space between them to look more nice..)
[07:02] <liquidsnake> oic
[07:02] <pragomer> I know I can use seperators.. but I want to edit this via e.g. a config file to do it more "general"
[07:02] <liquidsnake> ahh
[07:03] <liquidsnake> yeah other than that idk either
[07:03] <liquidsnake> have you checked the forums yet?
[07:04] <pragomer> just used google.. though I ask it here.. perhaps someone just knows the file I have to edit
[07:05] <elfy> http://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/96117/increase-space-between-icons-in-xfce-notification-area
[07:06] <pragomer> thanks elfy.. but I think this is about the "notifications area".. what I mean is the program starters
[07:07] <elfy> yea - but I suspect the only way you'll do what you want is the same answer
[07:12] <pragomer> mm. the answer there is that it would not be possible to do it via config files.. cant just believe it..
[07:12] <knome> pragomer, feel free to submit code to xfce4-panel to make it possible
[07:12] <elfy> well - if no-one is able to point you at it then find out and you can come and tell us :)
[07:13] <pragomer> Im just a user, sorry :-(
[07:13] <elfy> so are we all ;)
[07:13] <pragomer> funny but true answer elfy ;)
[07:14] <pragomer> another question: is it possible to use the super key to open whisker menu in xubuntu AND to use the super key for shortcuts (e.g. super+e) at SAME TIME ?
[07:15] <elfy> pretty sure not - did that accidentally ...
[07:15] <elfy> though you could use the right Super button
[07:19] <pragomer> ok.. not a drama.. but I would be cool if it worked (like in every other desktop)... its not for me but for me girlfriend who should switch to linux and who is used to her few shortcuts...
[12:57] <Jammerx2> When I connect my bluetooth headset it's never set as the default in PulseAudio, is there an easy way to make it default each time?
[13:19] <ohadigger> hello there...
[16:07] <Zdenek> XUBUNTU is bettter than windows! My printer works perfectly on XUBUNTU but on windows not. THANKS!!!
[16:43] <TimeVirus> why is it Unetbootin cant see my flash drive nor does it automount
[16:55] <TimeVirus> back
[17:02] <Spass> hi all, i'm new here, almost done configuring my fresh xubuntu 14.04 installation
[17:03] <Spass> can anyone know if it is possible to change xchat icon in tray?
[17:05] <JeZxLee> anyone get VirtualBox in software center working on Xubuntu 15.04 64Bit?
[17:08] <TimeVirus> fdisk -l lists none of my devices
[17:08] <TimeVirus> /o\
[17:08] <TimeVirus> lsblk works
[17:08] <TimeVirus> ...
[17:17] <Spass> (nvmd, i finally was able to change it)
[17:34] <Spass> any gamers here? http://steamcommunity.com/groups/ratbuntu
[17:36] <MrPenguin_> what is the best way to back up your files when upgrading to the newest xubuntu?
[17:36] <xangua> get a backup disk¿
[17:39] <MrPenguin_> would a usb work well?
[17:43] <liquidsnake_> yeah usb flash drive fine as long as it has enough space
[17:44] <MrPenguin_> :) 32gb is more than enough
[17:44] <liquidsnake_> oh mos def
[17:45] <elfy> JeZxLee: what is the issue you have with it?
[17:46] <JeZxLee> elfy - Windows 8 install crashes under current VirtualBox for 15.04
[17:47] <elfy> oh right - wouldn't have a clue about whether a win guest worked
[17:48] <elfy> vbox works in 15.04 for me for what I need it for
[17:49] <liquidsnake_> windblows 8 has bugs
[17:49] <liquidsnake_> i do not feel that it is very stable
[17:50] <liquidsnake_> it has numerous compatibility isuues
[17:50] <liquidsnake_> try W7
[17:50] <JeZxLee> I need Windows 8
[17:50] <liquidsnake_> or W10
[17:50] <liquidsnake_> oic
[17:51] <liquidsnake_> well have you checked the forums for a workaround?
[17:51] <liquidsnake_> there may already be a solution
[17:54] <JeZxLee> no workaround yet - I'll keep using old Linux Mint 17.1 KDE 64Bit with VMWare Player 7.1.0
[17:54] <liquidsnake_> ahh well that blows
[17:56] <GeekDude> I must've really messed something up, because I can't log in anymore
[17:56] <GeekDude> I hit login and it takes me back to the login screen
[17:56] <GeekDude> Note that I can login as guest
[17:56] <liquidsnake_> strange
[17:56] <liquidsnake_> oh ok was about to ask...
[17:56] <liquidsnake_> but not as admin?
[17:56] <GeekDude> Not as the only user account
[17:57] <liquidsnake_> do you have it set with a password?
[17:57] <GeekDude> I can log in over SSH and through a tty
[17:57] <liquidsnake_> ahh
[17:57] <GeekDude> The user on this machine is "media"
[17:57] <GeekDude> -rw------- 1 media media 101 Apr 25 13:56 .Xauthority
[17:59] <GeekDude> Here's the contents of .xsession-errors https://gist.github.com/dc07329cd3ffefd405fc
[17:59] <elfy> and any that are apparently owned by root instead of media that shouldn't be?
[18:00] <GeekDude> I was trying to get xvfb running the other day and managed to make .Xauthority be owned by root, but I've since chowned it back
[18:02] <liquidsnake_> have you checked the forums for a workaround?
[18:02] <GeekDude> They said to make sure that the permissions on .Xauthority and on /tmp were set correctly
[18:02] <liquidsnake_> the only other thing i know of is to backup your data if possible and reinstall OS
[18:02] <liquidsnake_> oic
[18:02] <liquidsnake_> what did you mess with to cause this?
[18:02] <GeekDude> drwxrwxrwt 4 root root 4096 Apr 25 13:58 /tmp
[18:03] <liquidsnake_> do you recall
[18:04] <liquidsnake_> you may have to do a reinstall as much as I'm sure you don't wanna do that unless you can find a practical workaround
[18:05] <GeekDude> > history | grep sudo
[18:05] <GeekDude> https://gist.github.com/5892f198d2d181b2c43c
[18:05] <GeekDude> line 12 is where the juicy bits start
[18:12] <GeekDude> It's a shame I didn't make separate home and root partitions
[18:20] <GeekDude> When I try to log in Xorg.0.log says https://gist.github.com/ff9fc062d6c6a7dc95a7
[18:21] <GeekDude> auth.log says https://gist.github.com/cd24487756b27759253e
[18:21] <GeekDude> auth.log is particularly interesting
[18:28] <elfy> bug 1309535 perhaps -certainly a few hits for similar errors in auth.log
[18:28] <GeekDude> perhaps I might purge and reinstall the xubuntu-desktop package
[18:32] <elfy> wouldn't be a bad idea - see what that brings
[18:33] <krytarik> Nil. :)
[18:34] <elfy> GeekDude: on the other hand - you're not running with a standard system - so who knows what's happened
[18:35] <GeekDude> I don't suppose you'd like the output of dpkg -l
[18:41] <krytarik> GeekDude: So, you only have an "~/.Xauthority", right? Try deleting it and letting it recreate on the next login.
[18:44] <GeekDude> removing .Xauthority then restarting lightdm didn't have any effect
[18:45] * GeekDude reinstalls xorg
[18:47] <krytarik> GeekDude: So when did this start exactly?
[18:47] <GeekDude> hard to say for sure
[18:47] <GeekDude> earlier today?
[18:47] <krytarik> lol
[18:47] <krytarik> After you did what?
[18:47] <GeekDude> The screen went black but I could still VNC in
[18:47] <GeekDude> so I rebooted and now I can't log in
[18:49] <krytarik> GeekDude: Try clearing any saved sessions from "~/.cache/sessions".
[18:58] <xubuntu58w> ok
[18:59] <xubuntu58w> inspiron 1764 wifi not functional after installing Xubuntu the latest
[18:59] <xubuntu58w> any tips
[18:59] <xubuntu58w> 10
[18:59] <xubuntu58w> 9
[18:59] <xubuntu58w> 8
[18:59] <xubuntu58w> 7
[18:59] <xubuntu58w> 6
[18:59] <xubuntu58w> 5
[18:59] <xubuntu58w> 4
[19:00] <xubuntu58w> hello
[19:00] <xubuntu58w> read the forums nut found no solution
[19:00] <krytarik> !patience | xubuntu58w
[19:00] <xubuntu58w> any drivers to add to it
[19:00] <krytarik> !details | xubuntu58w
[19:01] <xubuntu58w> I am able to go wired but wifi
[19:01] <xubuntu58w> as long as I connect the internet cable I am able to c the internet
[19:01] <xubuntu58w> but not wirelss wfifi
[19:01] <xubuntu58w> WIFI
[19:03] <koegs> which wifi card?
[19:03] <xubuntu58w> what is the command to find that out
[19:03] <xubuntu58w> I entered
[19:04] <xubuntu58w> iwlist wlan0 s
[19:04] <xubuntu58w> did not worked
[19:04] <xubuntu58w> 14.04 LTS
[19:05] <brainwash> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dell_Inspiron_1764
[19:05] <brainwash> "Linux was reported to run well with the Laptop's hardware, but requires proprietary Broadcom drivers for the wireless network interface card..."
[19:05] <brainwash> !broadcom
[19:08] <xubuntu58w> sudo lshw
[19:08] <xubuntu58w> but it does not c it
[19:08] <xubuntu58w> so it appears i have to get the drivers
[19:09] <xubuntu58w> as per your your feedback
[19:09] <xubuntu58w> i will follow up the links u sent....u r the man!! thanks!
[19:09] <brainwash> good luck
[19:18] <xubuntu58w> timvisher
[19:18] <xubuntu58w> a silly questions
[19:19] <xubuntu58w> Go to: System->Administrator->Additional Drivers(Hardware drivers) Then click to Broadcom STA wireless driver and enable it. Restart
[19:19] <xubuntu58w> i do not find the system to administrator tab
[19:20] <brainwash> settings manager > software sources > additional drivers
[19:21] <brainwash> I think that's how you do it in xubuntu
[19:21] <xubuntu58w> how
[19:21] <xubuntu345> hablan español???
[19:21] <brainwash> !es
[19:22] <xubuntu345> gracias
[19:22] <brainwash> xubuntu58w: what do you mean "how"? I told you what to click
[19:24] <xubuntu65w> hello
[19:24] <TimeVirus> howdy
[19:24] <xubuntu65w> !es does not work
[19:24] <TimeVirus> bot abuse
[19:24] <xubuntu65w> no big deal nobody knows everything
[19:25] <TimeVirus> some dont know anything too
[19:25] <xubuntu071> as I can make a local network with xubuntu
[19:25] <xubuntu65w> my kernel driver is b43-pci-bridge
[19:25] <TimeVirus> you need a switch for that
[19:26] <xubuntu65w> BCM4312
[19:26] <TimeVirus> and a router to NAT out to the rest of the world
[19:26] <xubuntu65w> <access denied>
[19:26] <xubuntu65w> ok thanks
[19:26] <TimeVirus> no wait!
[19:27] <TimeVirus> ok thanks for what?
[19:27] <TimeVirus> heh
[19:28] <xubuntu071> it's just a local network of 10 computers for primary school without internet, it is for primary school children conoscan linux
[19:29] <GeekDude> What's the best file system for cross platform compatibility?
[19:29] <TimeVirus> fat32 but there is more to it than just that
[19:29] <elfy> how cross-platformy?
[19:29] <TimeVirus> lots more
[19:30] <GeekDude> I want to put some movies on a hard drive so that they can be read from both linux and windows
[19:30] <krytarik> GeekDude: NTFS, rather than FAT32.
[19:30] <TimeVirus> ntfs works fine
[19:30] <GeekDude> Though I don't really need to, I can just go with standard ext4 if it's significantly better
[19:30] <elfy> then ntfs I would say
[19:30] <xubuntu071> I will use xubuntu only in the 10 netbook, what I do is work or home network .
[19:32] <TimeVirus> I'd say you need a switch to run best
[19:33] <xubuntu071> I have a Cisco 24-port
[19:33] <TimeVirus> nice
[19:34] <xubuntu071> como puedo configurar las maquinas para que esten en la misma red
[19:34] <xubuntu071> as I can configure the machines so they are on the same network
[19:34] <TimeVirus> yes I too used the google for that one
[19:37] <TimeVirus> aggregate and CPUs become the bottlenecks
[19:38] <TimeVirus> well, almost
[19:47] <a1fa> i just downloaded 15.04 from US TX AUSTIN mirror, and md5sum does not match
[19:47] <a1fa> even the file size is wrong
[19:48] <a1fa> ubuntu-15.04-desktop-amd64.iso
[19:48] <a1fa> 53c869eba8686007239a650d903847fd ubuntu-15.04-desktop-amd64.iso
[19:48] <liquidsnake_> so try a diff mirror perhaps or use a torrent instead?
[19:48] <a1fa> dont know if anybody cares
[19:48] <a1fa> i am using the official link now
[19:48] <a1fa> this one was also linked on xubuntu.org
[19:49] <a1fa> just giving you guys a heads up
[19:49] <liquidsnake_> torrents always seem to work better imho
[19:49] <liquidsnake_> ok
[19:50] <a1fa> hm.. ok this may have been a ubuntu vs xubuntu thing ;)
[19:50] <a1fa> i just noticed their xubuntu link fetches ubuntu instead
[19:50] <a1fa> >.<
[19:50] <liquidsnake_> ahh
[19:55] <GeekDude> I'm backing up my ~ directory onto an external drive, and I'm gonna wipe and reinstall the main drive
[19:57] <liquidsnake_> oh you finally decided to do that huh
[19:57] <liquidsnake_> thats what I would do too
[19:57] <liquidsnake_> sux but it works
[19:58] <GeekDude> I'm still not sure how I want my drives set up though. I have an 80G drive and a 250G drive. I think I might make the 80G one the boot drive and the 250G one the data drive
[19:59] <liquidsnake_> yep thats what I would recommend
[19:59] <elfy> 0_0
[19:59] <liquidsnake_> makes sense
[20:00] <elfy> GeekDude: partition how you like - but in the last 8 years never touched more than 12Gb personally
[20:00] <liquidsnake_> i'm still trying to decide whether i like xubuntu better or puppy linux for the kids computer
[20:00] <elfy> the only time I have seen someone run out of room - they marked the repo for installation
[20:00] * GeekDude chuckles
[20:01] <GeekDude> > sudo apt-get install *
[20:01] <liquidsnake_> xubuntu seems more user friendly esp for kids. puppy is a little more technical than i thought
[20:01] <elfy> if you are installing 15.04 - then you need to install in 9 months all of 80Gb
[20:02] <elfy> because in 10 months it's out of support
[20:02] <liquidsnake_> thats why i always get the lts versions
[20:02] <GeekDude> 14.04LTS
[20:02] <elfy> you might benefit from thinking about symlinks and external data sources and just having a small /
[20:03] <elfy> right so - maybe split /home and / and further split some of /home out to other partitions
[20:04] <elfy> anyway - the main thing is think a bit more long term
[20:05] <GeekDude> Is copying files between different partitions any faster than copying files between different drives?
[20:06] <elfy> not that I noticed before I had usb3 and ssd's kicking about
[22:11] <talladamb> hi all, having a problwm with Xubuntu 14.04 on a Thinkpad T400. I have multiple workspaces, which I switch between with a workspace switcher applet in the panel. When I have chromium-browser open on one, switch to another, and switch back to browser, I get this display issue:
[22:11] <talladamb> http://imgur.com/uoC8D0n
[22:13] <talladamb> not really sure where to begin. Might be an issue with chromium-browser. Everything is up to date, from repos only nothing built from source or manually installed.
[22:14] <talladamb> it is always the top third or so of the window, regardless of where the window is placed on the screen
[22:15] <talladamb> seen here: http://imgur.com/6m0ao1f
[22:15] <krytarik> talladamb: LP bug 1309801.
[22:16] <talladamb> oh wow my google skills really fail :(
[22:16] <talladamb> thank you ubottu
[22:19] <talladamb> also just wanna say I really love this OS, by far the easiest to use and friendliest community I've come across yet. Thanks again!
[22:19] <talladamb> s/OS/distro
[22:20] <krytarik> talladamb: Thanks for the kind words. :)
[22:21] <krytarik> Also, ubottu is a bot.
[22:23] <talladamb> yes I see that now, thank you instead krytarik :)
[22:23] <krytarik> Heh.
[22:24] <talladamb> I was able to use a workaround from the bugtracker somments to fix my issue for now
[22:24] <krytarik> Which one exactly?
[23:16] <mignw> hi guys
[23:16] <mignw> how do we update bash?
[23:29] <depth> hola, alguien que hable español?
[23:31] <Unit193> !es | depth
[23:31] <mignw> no hablo ingles
[23:32] <depth> thanks. i don't speak english very well
[23:33] <depth> need help with xubuntu 15.04. not working onboard the start of session
[23:34] <depth> someone goes something like?
[23:44] <carrera> Greetings! :-)
[23:45] <carrera> are there any release images of the new 15.04 desktop?
[23:46] <depth> yes
[23:47] <carrera> I couldn't find them on the site yesterday
[23:47] <carrera> I'll check again
[23:47] <mignw> how do you update bash?
[23:54] <depth> need help with xubuntu 15.04. not working onboard the start of session
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2024-05-13T22:11:08.864949
| 2015-04-25T00:00:00 |
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2015-04-25-#ubuntu-uk
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[05:06] <moreati> Does http://www.engadget.com/ kill the browser tab in Chrome(ium) for any of you?
[05:39] * zmoylan-pi fires up chromium...
[05:42] <zmoylan-pi> he's dead jim...
[05:44] <zmoylan-pi> a 1gb netbook so closing down almost every other program and repeating...
[05:47] <zmoylan-pi> and still dead as a dodo
[05:49] <zmoylan-pi> works fine in my normal browser which on this old slow system is qupzilla a lite browser
[06:05] <knightwise> good morning everyone
[06:26] <knightwi1e> whois Knightmare
[06:26] <knightwi1e> mor'ning Knightmare
[06:31] <knightwi1e> hey Chl
[06:33] <Knightmare> Morning
[06:33] <knightwi1e> hey Knightmare , how are you doin over there in TX
[06:35] <Knightmare> TX?
[06:35] <Knightwise> arent you in the us ?
[06:35] <Knightmare> No
[06:35] <Knightwise> Sorry , you are on the TX freenode server :) my bad
[06:35] <Knightwise> read the whois wrong
[06:36] <Knightmare> np
[06:38] <Knightwise> where are you from ?
[07:31] <Knightmare> UK
[07:40] <diddledan> morning all
[07:40] <diddledan> so my WD RED discs arrived nice and early
[07:40] <diddledan> busy inserting them right now
[07:47] <diddledan> zfs raidz is now rebuilding after the first replacement (I'm doing two replacements and one addition)
[07:47] <diddledan> should give me 9TB usable spaces
[07:47] <diddledan> (12 total)
[08:14] <brobostigon> morning boys and girls.
[08:14] <diddledan> allo
[08:15] <brobostigon> morning diddledan
[08:16] <diddledan> I love how when you're playing with hard disc swapping and you leave them all lying on the floor attached to the computer while you power-up to do the first step in rebuilding an array (replacing one disc offline at a time) it looks like the computer is spilling it's guts as though it's been critically injured
[08:16] <diddledan> (there's a nice thought for your morning :-p)
[08:17] <diddledan> in other news: I've run-out of sata ports :-D
[08:17] <diddledan> got all six used for 4hdds and 2ssds
[08:19] <diddledan> 30% rebuilt
[08:19] * diddledan twiddles someone's thumbs
[08:28] <diddledan> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ayLZk4oNwuQ
[08:28] <diddledan> lol
[08:28] <diddledan> he's excited
[08:31] <diddledan> hmm, 1 more hour for the FIRST resilvering of my array
[08:32] <diddledan> got another two to go
[08:32] <diddledan> allo bashrc
[08:33] <bashrc> g'day peeps
[08:33] * diddledan stands by his original statement
[08:34] <bashrc> yesterday I battled with emacs, and I think I won
[08:34] <diddledan> I'm not sure you can ever win that fight can you?
[08:34] <bashrc> heh
[08:35] <bashrc> I think what's happening between 14.10 and 15.04 is that some of the stuff which used to come with emacs by default now no longer does
[08:35] <bashrc> making the core app leaner
[08:35] <diddledan> it's like falling into a black hole - it warps itself so the more you think you've learned the more it decides to show you that's an incorrect assumption
[08:36] <diddledan> aah
[08:36] <bashrc> emacs is not so much a black hole as like falling down the rabbit hole
[08:36] <diddledan> lol
[08:36] <bashrc> into a world of hatters and dormice
[08:37] <diddledan> weirdness ensues!
[08:38] <diddledan> you: "what's this?" devs: "we don't talk about that. just ignore it."
[08:39] <bashrc> is today Debian release day?
[08:39] <diddledan> oh?
[08:39] <diddledan> I am out of touch with debian release cycles
[08:39] <diddledan> I tend to only really take note of ubuntu's
[08:40] <bashrc> I don't think debian has cycles as such, they just release when they're ready
[08:40] <diddledan> point
[08:41] <diddledan> come-on raid
[08:41] * diddledan gets impatient
[08:42] <diddledan> 45 minutes to go apparently
[08:43] <diddledan> I wonder if it would have been quicker to leave the old disc plugged-in and do an online-replace
[10:11] <diddledan> step two initiated. says it's gonna take 7 hours this time
[10:31] <bashrc> 7 hours is enough time to make coffee
[10:33] <zmoylan-pi> enough time to perfect cold fusion :-P
[10:33] <diddledan> adobe tried that
[10:33] <diddledan> it's an evil thing now
[10:33] <zmoylan-pi> well... adobe...
[10:41] <diddledan> ok, should I do a raid5 or a raid10 (raid 10 only loses me 1TB currently over raid5 but in the future if I upgrade to bigger discs then that will increase)
[10:41] <diddledan> .. I'm gonna recreate the array
[10:41] <diddledan> save doing the whole rebuild
[10:42] <diddledan> luckily I've not got too much data yet so I can put it on a usb while I redo the array
[10:46] <diddledan> poor daddy. he sounds very poorly on the phone
[10:46] <diddledan> killer manflu I believe
[10:47] <penguin42> there seems to be an error in the weather, it was lovely and warm and sunny, and now I've got a week off it's pouring down
[10:47] <diddledan> it's fine here. cloudy but the sun is shining
[10:48] <diddledan> bashrc: don't forget to close the door
[16:04] <TheProphet[S]> Hi all
[16:04] <daftykins> lo
[16:06] <TheProphet[S]> I thought 15.04 had been released officially. When I do-release-upgrade it loads utopic packages, why is that? The same applies to do-release-upgrade - d!
[16:06] <daftykins> what version are you on now?
[16:06] <TheProphet[S]> Lts
[16:06] <daftykins> you should never use do-release-upgrade -d
[16:07] <daftykins> yeah, so you have to update to 14.10 before you can go to 15.04
[16:07] <daftykins> you can't bypass 14.10 :)
[16:07] <zmoylan-pi> do not pass go, do not collect #200.... :-P
[16:08] <daftykins> ^_^
[16:08] <daftykins> which also gives you plenty of time to backup \o/
[16:08] <TheProphet[S]> I have worked on alpha versions of Ubuntu before, but that's beside the point. I would like to revert my repositories to trusty now, is that possible?
[16:09] <penguin42> downgrading isn't possible generally
[16:09] <TheProphet[S]> my sources.list is correct, it mentions only trusty
[16:09] <TheProphet[S]> I haven't installed anything
[16:09] <penguin42> hmm
[16:10] <TheProphet[S]> I did not proceed with the upgrade once I realised I was going to install utopic
[16:10] <daftykins> you might be safe as long as you closed out then
[16:10] <TheProphet[S]> But my repositories now are utopic, even though my sources.list is set on trusty
[16:11] <TheProphet[S]> I did close yes, I needed to confirm if I wanted to proceed and said no.
[16:12] <TheProphet[S]> If I try to update my packages now it says that I have to upgrade all of them because it's using utopic repos
[16:14] <TheProphet[S]> I might as well do the upgrade now, the reason why I wanted to do it in the first place is that it freezes, can't even reisub
[16:15] <daftykins> that might be unrelated
[16:15] <TheProphet[S]> It is, the freezing happens since way before this upgrade incident
[16:16] <daftykins> memtest + disk health ok? :)
[16:17] <TheProphet[S]> I'm not sure even if it's an hardware or software problem
[16:17] <TheProphet[S]> I keep thinking it's the video card
[16:17] <TheProphet[S]> But I can't pinpoint it
[16:22] <TheProphet[S]> Everytime I log in I get an error message about xserver-xorg-core, because it crashes
[16:23] <directhex_> Has anyone got Bioshock Infinite running on 1504?
[16:23] <TheProphet[S]> On 14.04 yes
[16:25] <directhex_> it wokrked for me on my old PC (14.04), not my new one (15.04)
[16:26] <directhex_> i'd like to see if someone else has a problem before wasting my time with an unneeded reinstall
[18:30] <AndChat|336756> I updated my system to 14.10 in order to upgrade to 15.04, but now WiFi does not connect
[18:31] <daftykins> got a network cable handy?
[18:33] <AndChat|336756> The router is in another room, why?
[18:33] <daftykins> use wired?
[18:33] <daftykins> no point fixing a version you're not even going to stay on
[18:35] <AndChat|336756> Not fiscally possible unfortunately, I would either need a 30 meter cable or to carry Pc and 42" TV to the other room
[18:36] <AndChat|336756> Is there a way to fix it though? I'm trying to modify modules.conf
[18:36] <daftykins> got another computer? like a laptop?
[18:36] <AndChat|336756> The one I'm typing from yes
[18:36] <MartijnVdS> Fiscally? So it's not possible for tax reasons?
[18:36] <daftykins> MartijnVdS: it's financially non-viable :D
[18:36] <daftykins> time = money
[18:36] <MartijnVdS> daftykins: network cables aren't THAT expensive are they? :P
[18:37] <daftykins> AndChat|336756: android device though, hrmm probably can't bridge wired LAN through that
[18:37] <daftykins> proper laptop, yes
[18:37] <daftykins> AndChat|336756: we don't even know what your wireless adapter is right now
[18:38] <AndChat|336756> But the adapter works, it sees the 2.4 Ghz connection, the password is the same as always
[18:38] <AndChat|336756> It connects for a few seconds and then disconnects itself
[18:38] <daftykins> ah ok so the details are slowly adding up
[18:39] <daftykins> perhaps if you pored over the system logs you might find an explanation as to why, but i really think it'd be more sensible to either clean install 15.04 at this point or drag the machine over to wired
[18:41] <AndChat|336756> There was a blatant syntax error in the iwlwifi.conf file
[18:41] <daftykins> fine now then?
[18:42] <AndChat|336756> I corrected the error and saved the file, now it's connected
[18:42] <daftykins> huzzah
[18:43] <AndChat|336756> Thanks, regarding the fiscal cliff I mentioned earlier
[18:44] <AndChat|336756> Oh, forget it, I was gonna try and say something clever
[18:44] <daftykins> nothing like an air of absolute pessimism to motivate one to find the real solution \o/
[19:44] <ali1234> can anyone make any sense of this? http://msscodefactory.sourceforge.net/
[19:44] <ali1234> i'm not sure if it's way over my head or the next templeOS
[19:49] <ali1234> it appears to be a tool that takes a database schema and generates a static java ORM on top of it
[19:49] <ali1234> apparently it takes "multi-hours" to run
[19:49] <ali1234> but maybe i am missing something
[19:51] <ali1234> also i dont understand how expert systems or genetic algorithms fit in
[19:51] <ali1234> but "genetic" might be a typo
[20:44] <MAPcz> hi all
[20:44] <MAPcz> so hard sleeping abroad in diff hotels and that;/
[20:45] <directhex_> it takes me a few days to get comfortable in a hotel bed
[20:46] <MAPcz> yea i managed 4/5hrs a night and thats it
[20:46] <MAPcz> waking up all the time then tired at night
[20:47] <directhex_> i might stay up later if i enjoyed cartoon network's late night programming
[20:47] <directhex_> and CN is the only channel i watch when i'm in the US
[20:47] <directhex_> it's the only channel which isn't back-to-back lies
[20:51] <MartijnVdS> CN?
[20:53] <daftykins> cartoon network
[21:01] * penguin42 puts a pile of corn in one corner of the channel for daftykins and watches
[21:02] * daftykins scratches his head
[21:02] <daftykins> Meep Meep
[21:02] <penguin42> :-)
[21:15] <MAPcz> hmm
[21:16] <MAPcz> whats that bew show startiong on sky atlantic
[21:16] <MAPcz> seen an ad for it..looked good but forgot;/
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2024-05-13T22:11:08.871355
| 2015-04-25T00:00:00 |
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2015-04-25-#ubuntu-de
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[01:40] <ubotter> hallo ist es normal dass der piddgin messenger laggt wie bolle wenn ich einen sehr sehr ollen chan mit 3500 usern im irc joine? so dass ich keine fenster mehr bedienen kann für etwa 20 sekunden dann ist wieder alles normal. nach 20 weiteren sekunden genau das gleiche. die cpu last steigt dabei nicht, auch nicht die ramausnutzung
[01:42] <ubotter> ubuntu 15
[07:14] <bazZzZzti> moin
[07:15] <bazZzZzti> mein ubuntu hat mein bluetooth deaktiviert und ich kann es zwar aktivieren in den einstellungen doch es wird nicht wirklich aktiviert. woran kann das liegen?
[07:19] <jokrebel> vielleicht nur versehentlich per Fn-Key-Kombination selber abgeschalten?
[07:20] <bazZzZzti> hab ich auch gedacht. aber hab kein fn+bluetooth key
[07:20] <bazZzZzti> ich gehe in die einstellungen und will bluetooth aktivieren.
[07:21] <bazZzZzti> dann gehe ich aus den einstellungen und wieder hinein und bluetooth ist wieder deaktiviert
[07:21] <bazZzZzti> kann es sein das die treiber fehlen?
[07:21] <jokrebel> ist häufig mit der WLAN-Taste gemeinsam
[07:21] <jokrebel> ging es denn schon mal?
[07:22] <bazZzZzti> hehe, das wars nicht... :-)
[07:23] <jokrebel> ging es denn schon mal?
[07:23] <bazZzZzti> gute frage, ich hab ihn frisch aufgesetzt. ist nen x240
[07:24] <apollo13> schau mal im bios nach obs aus ist
[07:24] <apollo13> dann schau was rfkill sagt
[07:24] <bazZzZzti> im windows funzt es
[07:25] <apollo13> ja und?
[07:25] <apollo13> windows ignoriert auch das "aus" im bios
[07:25] <sash_> Tuts bei mir nciht.
[07:25] <bazZzZzti> rfkill unblock bluetooth?
[07:25] <sash_> Also, am L420 ist BIOS-aus auch unter Windows aus.
[07:25] <apollo13> sash_: hast du nen x240?
[07:25] <apollo13> ah
[07:25] <bazZzZzti> jup
[07:26] <apollo13> bazZzZzti: zuerst mal nen list und schaun obs hard oder soft blocked ist
[07:26] <bazZzZzti> im win funzt es
[07:26] <apollo13> obs im win funzt ist im normalfall irrelevant ;)
[07:26] <bazZzZzti> list?
[07:27] <bazZzZzti> bin leider linux noob
[07:27] <apollo13> rfkill list
[07:28] <bazZzZzti> soft und hardblocked no
[07:29] <apollo13> gut, dann wirds zeit die logdateien anzuschauen, fang mal mit dmesg an
[07:30] <bazZzZzti> ok hab was gefunden
[07:31] <bazZzZzti> bei allen bluetooth einträgen die ich finden kann steht initialized
[09:47] <Tendra> Habe gelesen, dass Ubuntu sich von .deb-Packages verabschieden möchte und auf "Snappy" umsteigt. Das ist ja doch eine ziemlich radikale Veränderung. Kann mir mal jemand erklären, was das Snappy eigentlich ist?
[09:57] <k1l_> für den enduser passiert da erstmal gar nichts, das ist noch nicht mal beschlossen.
[09:58] <k1l_> es soll auch weiterhin .deb geben, da die snappy pakete auf basis der .deb gebaut werden
[09:58] <k1l_> http://www.webupd8.org/2015/04/ubuntu-desktop-to-eventually-switch-to.html "eventually" ist da das zauberwort. also keine panik
[09:58] <kubine> k1l_: Title: Ubuntu Desktop To Eventually Switch To Snappy Packages By Default ~ Web Upd8: Ubuntu / Linux blog (at www.webupd8.org)
[09:59] <Tendra> k1l_: Gilt das dann für alle Ubuntu-Varianten, oder nur für Ubuntu Unity?
[10:00] <k1l_> das ist erstmal nur geplant im test-iso zu probieren. also weder ubuntu noch k/l/xubuntu
[10:00] <k1l_> warte erstmal die UOS ab
[10:04] <k1l_> die setzen das halt bei ubuntu-touch ein und haben gemerkt, dass es einige probleme mit .debs und vor allem PPAs löst. deswegen wollen sie das jetzt demnächst bei der desktop-next iso testen, welche MIR und unity8 beinhaltet. das ist aber der reine entwicklungszweig und wird nicht vor 16.04 zum einsatz kommen.
[13:25] <ubotter> hallo weiss jemand wie ich bei pidgin die fenster wegbekomme die immer eingeblendet werden. auf diesen steht away oder afk sie bleiben solange da bis man sie wegklickt. die nerven mich so
[13:25] <ubotter> ubntun 15
[14:10] <xubuntuser> Moin
[14:11] <xubuntuser> Kurz und knapp: Ich wollte dateien verschieben.. "ausgeschnitten" + "kopiert" ... es trat eine fehlermeldung auf... weder wurden die daten kopiert, noch liegen sie an der stelle an der ich sie ausgeschnitten habe... was kann ich tun?
[14:13] <apollo13> worst case, backup einspielen
[14:13] <apollo13> schau im papierkorb nach etc…
[14:14] <ring0> ohne die fehlermeldung lässt sich da schwer helfen
[14:15] <xubuntuser> im papierkorb isses nicht zu finden.. fehlermeldung habe ich natürlich weggeklickt... backup ist gut, das war grade meine backupkopie xD
[14:16] <xubuntuser> das ist tatsähclich grade worst case.. wollte jetzt grade schon dabei sein von xubuntu auf ubuntu umzusatteln
[14:19] <xubuntuser> gibt es keine befehl der die aktion rückgängig macht?
[14:19] <apollo13> nein
[14:22] <k-stz> xubuntuser: vielleicht versehentlich verlegt? Du kannst sie suchen mit: find . -name "dateiname"
[14:23] <ppq> xubuntuser, wenn am zielort noch nichts geschrieben wurde, sind sie am ursprung noch da.
[14:23] <k-stz> c-alt + t dann dort eingeben. Um die suche einzugrenzen in einen wahrscheinlichen ordner navigieren mit cd/cd.. und dann 'find . -name "<dateiname>"
[14:23] <ppq> thunar löscht dateien nämlich erst, wenn sie ganz rüberkopiert sind
[14:24] <ppq> (alles andere wäre auch irgendwie sinnlos)
[14:24] <ppq> einfach nochmal probieren, am besten mit copy/paste
[14:28] <Kosl> Wann beendet Canonical eigentlich mal die Spionage bzgl. Unity und der Datenübertragung?
[14:30] <xubuntuser> weder verlegt, noch irgendwo zu finden
[14:30] <xubuntuser> also noch im ursprungsordner
[14:31] <sash_> Kosl: Vermutlich nie, kannste aber alles deaktivieren. Du sprichst von diesen Amazon-Dingen?
[14:31] <k-stz> Kosl: meinst du die "dash" integrierte amazon suche? Ich meine mark shuttleworth hat hierüber gebloggt. ->go ubuntu-offtopic chan
[14:35] <k-stz> xubuntuser: ich habe es zwar noch nicht mit eigenen dateien probiert, aber versuch mal das im terminal: lsof | grep dateiname-den-du-kopiert-hast
[14:36] <k-stz> dies könnte dir eine zeile ausgeben mit "(deleted)" am ende, was gut wäre
[14:53] <krlmrx> Hallo-
[14:54] <krlmrx> Ich wollte fragen, ob mir jemand dabei behilflich sein kann, einen Grafikkartentreiber zu installieren.
[14:55] <someone12> hat der ubuntu (gnome) 15 installer keine progress bar mehr?
[14:55] <krlmrx> Allerdings habe ich eine auf Ubuntu basierende Distribution.
[14:55] <someone12> das schieß teil zeigt nicht an was es macht und war 20min beschäftigt, scheinbar mit nichts
[14:55] <krlmrx> Ist das dann überhaupt kompatibel?
[15:00] <ppq> krlmrx, nein, nicht unbedingt. frag am besten im channel deiner distribution. welche hast du denn?
[15:02] <krlmrx> Trisquel 7.0
[15:03] <ppq> ahjo, das wäre dann #trisquel hier im freenode :)
[15:03] <krlmrx> Dort bekomme ich allerdings keine Antwort, weil die Treiber proprietär sind und es keine Alternative gibt.
[15:04] <ppq> also unter ubuntu gibt es ein programm, mit dem du per GUI die proprietären grafiktreiber installieren kannst
[15:05] <ppq> wenn das unter trisquel nicht geht und du wirklich drauf angewiesen bist, die zu nutzen, könntest du ja umsteigen
[15:05] <krlmrx> Naja, ich bin ein GNU/Linux Neuling.
[15:06] <krlmrx> Ich bin eigentlich über die Free Software Foundation darauf gestoßen.
[15:06] <ppq> krlmrx, welche grafikkarte ist es denn und wieso willst du nicht die freien treiber nutzen?
[15:07] <krlmrx> Weil es keine freien Treiber gibt
[15:07] <krlmrx> ATI Radeon 7800 Serie
[15:08] <krlmrx> Im Gegensatz zu ATI gibt es für NVidia Grafikkarten freie Treiber, aber ich will mir nicht unbedingt eine neue Grafikkarte kaufen müssen deswegen.
[15:09] <ppq> es gibt den freien "radeon" treiber
[15:09] <ppq> der wird automatisch geladen
[15:09] <ppq> und deine karte unterstützt er ziemlich sicher, zumal sie schon etwas älter ist
[15:10] <ppq> schon seit 2012
[15:10] <krlmrx> Und wie sehe ich, ob der Treiber installiert ist bzw. welcher?
[15:10] <ppq> frag lieber die #trisquel leute, wie man das problem löst, das du hast.
[15:11] <krlmrx> Ok danke
[15:11] <ppq> das du mit noch immer nicht verraten hast, übrigens.
[15:11] <krlmrx> Hm ok
[15:11] <krlmrx> Ich habe mir Ryzom installiert, kennst Du das?
[15:12] <krlmrx> Ein mmorpg
[15:12] <krlmrx> Aber es ruckelt gewaltig.
[15:14] <ppq> die haben hier auch einen channel, #ryzom
[15:14] <krlmrx> Soll ich mal dort fragen?
[15:14] <ppq> joa
[15:14] <krlmrx> Oder verweisen die mich dann wieder woandershin? :)
[15:15] <ppq> naja, was sollen wir machen. dein problem hat nichts mit ubuntu zu tun
[15:15] <ppq> wer weiß, wie das unter trisquel aussieht.
[15:15] <ppq> ich jedenfalls nicht.
[15:15] <krlmrx> Es ruckelt ja nicht nur bei Ryzom, es ruckelt allgemein im 3D Modus
[15:16] <krlmrx> Als Grafikkartentreiber ist ein VESA-Treiber gelistet.
[15:16] <ppq> dann frag mal die trisquel leute, wieso der radeon treiber nicht geladen wird, der bietet 3D beschleunigung, im gegensatz zu vesa
[15:17] <num7> krlmrx, Ich hatte mir auch einmal den proprietären Treiber für ein Spiel installiert das lief danach wesentlich flüßiger. Allerdings für ATI Radeon HD 6630M
[15:17] <krlmrx> Wie schon gesagt, die geben keine Auskunft über proprietäre Software
[15:17] <ppq> krlmrx, du brauchst ja auch keine proprietäre software
[15:17] <ppq> "radeon" ist freie software, wie gesagt
[15:19] <num7> radeon ist ein Markenname von AMD früher ATI :-)
[15:20] <ppq> num7, der freie treiber heißt ebenfalls so
[15:20] <num7> ah okay :-)
[15:23] <krlmrx> Wo finde ich den Treiber?
[15:23] <krlmrx> Bzw. kann ich den irgendwie manuell installieren?
[15:28] <num7> http://support.amd.com/en-us/download/desktop?os=Linux+x86 unter Releas Notes steht ob deine Grafikkarte unterstützt wird oder nicht.
[15:28] <kubine> num7: Title: Desktop (at support.amd.com)
[15:31] <krlmrx> Ok danke
[15:32] <krlmrx> Genau den habe ich runtergeladen.
[15:32] <krlmrx> Jetzt habe ich folgende Datei: amd-driver-installer-14.501.1003-x86.x86_64.run
[15:33] <krlmrx> Wenn ich die öffne, geht Texteditor auf mit der Meldung >>amd-driver-installer ....<< wird geladen
[15:33] <krlmrx> Kann es sein, daß das ziemlich lange dauert?
[15:34] <num7> krlmrx, Bevor du den proprietären Treiber installierst würde ich erst ein Backup machen - wenn es zu Problem bei der Installation kommt kann es sein das der X-Server nicht mehr startet.
[15:37] <krlmrx> Wie mache ich ein Backup?
[15:45] <num7> sbackup ist vielleicht nicht schlecht für den Anfang (http://wiki.ubuntuusers.de/sbackup) habe ich aber selbst noch nicht verwendet.
[15:45] <kubine> num7: Title: sbackup › Wiki › ubuntuusers.de (at wiki.ubuntuusers.de)
[16:27] <bananig> hi guys
[16:27] <bananig> jemand hier?
[16:29] <jokrebel> !frag
[16:29] <kubine> jokrebel: Du brauchst nicht fragen, ob Du fragen darfst oder ob sich jemand auskennt. Das ist zwar höflich, würde aber den Channel sehr zuspammen, wenn dies jeder täte. Stell besser einfach Deine Frage – wenn jemand die Antwort kennt, wird er sie Dir nennen.
[17:24] <PachiriSuu> servus
[17:24] <passt_> wie kann ich ubuntu upgraden, wenn ich keinen window manager installiert habe und demzufolge kein Häkchen bei Anwedungen & Aktualisierung für 'Vorabveröffentlichte Aktualisierungen' setzen kann?
[17:26] <stevieh> do-release-upgrade sollte dein freund sein
[17:28] <passt_> ich habe ein 14.04 installiert, aber da funktioniert do-release-upgrade nicht: 'No new release found'
[17:29] <stevieh> dann liest du mit "man do-release-upgrade" wie das geht
[17:29] <stevieh> und wenn du das nicht kannst, solltest du nicht upgraden ;-)
[17:29] <passt_> dann muss ich dir recht geben, dass es wieder zeit ist für rtfm
[17:57] <BlackMage> wie kann ich von14.10 auf 15.04 upgraden?
[19:14] <snooky1988> hi all
[19:14] <snooky1988> ein netzwerkprofi da?
[19:14] <ppq> !frag > snooky1988
[19:14] <kubine> snooky1988: Du brauchst nicht fragen, ob Du fragen darfst oder ob sich jemand auskennt. Das ist zwar höflich, würde aber den Channel sehr zuspammen, wenn dies jeder täte. Stell besser einfach Deine Frage – wenn jemand die Antwort kennt, wird er sie Dir nennen.
[19:14] <bekks> Ah, wieder eine Umfrage.
[19:15] <snooky1988> okok :)
[19:15] <snooky1988> also es wird aber spezifischer :)
[19:15] <snooky1988> ich betreibe hier ein Netzwerk
[19:15] <bekks> Stell doch einfach eine konkrete Frage.
[19:15] <snooky1988> das komplette netzwerktraffic wird zwar mitgeschnitten aber wie werte ich das nun aus?
[19:16] <bekks> Das kommt darauf an wie du ihn mitschneidest.
[19:16] <snooky1988> alles was hier durchs netzwerk geht wird mit einem debian server und wireshark aufgezeichnet
[19:16] <nagetier> Grundsätzlich würde ich durch Filtermethoden sagen
[19:16] <snooky1988> aber es geht mir um folgendes
[19:16] <bekks> Dann solltest Du den Debiansupport fragen, wie du das unter debian sinnvoll auswertest.
[19:17] <snooky1988> das was ich hier gerade schreibe, das sehe nur als datenpakete mehr nicht
[19:17] <snooky1988> genau so als würde man mit einer fritzbox "mitschneiden"
[19:17] <bekks> Als was sonst willst du mitgeschnittene Datenpakete denn sehen?
[19:17] <snooky1988> ich will aber JEDE eingabe die durch TCP/UDP rein und raus kommt haben
[19:17] <bekks> Die steht in deinen Datenpaketen.
[19:18] <snooky1988> ich habe an meiner wand im flur ein zettel, jeder der wlan haben will stimmt der protokolieren und der "überwachung" zu
[19:18] <snooky1988> nur leider kann ich mit den daten bisher nichts anfangen
[19:19] <snooky1988> und ich will einfach ALLES loggen, emails, whatsapp, fb, irc, webeingaben, einfach ALLES
[19:19] <bekks> Das tust du.
[19:19] <bekks> Du loggst die Datenpakete.
[19:19] <snooky1988> ausser SSL sachen, oder?
[19:19] <ppq> du willst, dass dir jemand hilft, deine nutzer abzuhören?
[19:19] <snooky1988> ok, also muss ich diese datenpakete nur noch irgendwie auswerten / lesen können!?
[19:20] <snooky1988> ppq: mit der nutzung meines wlans haben die zugestimmt
[19:20] <bekks> snooky1988: Kannst du doch auch. In den Datenpakete steht alles drin, was übermittelt wird.
[19:20] <snooky1988> ausser SSL, richtig!? und Bilder muss man dann auch wieder zusammen "bauen", oder?
[19:20] <ppq> naja, mit sowas möchte ich nichts zu tun haben
[19:20] <bekks> Wieso sollte SSL eine Aussnahme sein?
[19:20] <ppq> mal davon abgesehen dass das eh nix mit ubuntu zu tun hat
[19:21] <snooky1988> bekks: bei ssl wird ja zwischen den "partnern" ein handshake dürchgeführt
[19:21] <bekks> BEi TCP/IP auch.
[19:21] <bekks> TCP three way handshake ist der Google-Suchbegriff.
[19:22] <snooky1988> also das ist bei mir so, Inet => Server eth0 => Server eth1 => Cisco Router für LAN und WLAN
[19:22] <bekks> Das ist völlig egal.
[19:22] <snooky1988> und der Server schreibt alles mit
[19:22] <snooky1988> ich könnte das doch nicht "einfach so" abfangen
[19:22] <bekks> Wieso nicht?
[19:23] <snooky1988> LAN => logging => inet, wie soll das denn ohne gehen?
[19:23] <bekks> Wie soll das ohne was gehen?
[19:23] <snooky1988> dann müsste man ja für jede IP ein Programm laufen haben
[19:23] <bekks> Wieso das denn?
[19:24] <snooky1988> oder meinst du wie eine art "shunt" abfangen?
[19:24] <bekks> Mal ganz im Ernst: beschäftige Dich doch erstmal mit dem Grundverständniss von IP, bevor du anfängst deine User zu belauschen.
[19:24] <bekks> Was auch immer ein "shunt" in diesem Zusammenhang sein soll.
[19:25] <snooky1988> ok, also muss ich die datenpakete nur noch auswerten weil wireshark ja alles loggt
[19:25] <snooky1988> richtig?
[19:26] <bekks> Das war deine Eingangsfrage.
[19:26] <bekks> Die Antwort lautet "ja".
[19:26] <snooky1988> ok, dann gehen wir noch etwas "tiefer"
[19:26] <snooky1988> verfälschen geht dann auch?
[19:26] <bekks> Das ist der Punkt ab dem ich deine Posts nicht weiter kommentieren werde.
[19:27] <snooky1988> weil?
[19:27] <bekks> Weil das meine freie Entscheidung ist und du keinerlei Anspruch auf meinen Support hast.
[19:27] <snooky1988> weils "illegal" wird also
[19:28] <bekks> Nein, weil das meine freie Entscheidung ist und du keinerlei Anspruch auf meinen Support hast.
[19:28] <snooky1988> ich will ja nicht wissen wie
[19:28] <snooky1988> es interessiert mich einfach nur
[19:29] <snooky1988> sowas wie: User1 schreibt vie messanger an irgendjemanden "du bist aber nett" bei dem empfänger kommt aber an, "du bist aber doof"
[19:29] <snooky1988> halt ein "replace" ;)
[19:29] <musca> snooky1988: http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Man-in-the-Middle-Angriff
[19:29] <kubine> musca: Title: Man-in-the-Middle-Angriff – Wikipedia (at de.wikipedia.org)
[19:31] <snooky1988> Am effektivsten lässt sich diese Angriffsform mit einer Verschlüsselung der Datenpakete entgegenwirken, wobei allerdings die „Fingerabdrücke“ („fingerprints“) der Schlüssel über ein zuverlässiges Medium verifiziert werden müssen.
[19:32] <snooky1988> sag ich doch, SSL geht nicht, also nicht "so einfach"
[19:32] <snooky1988> musca: danke, da habe ich meine antwort. ja es geht :)
[19:33] <snooky1988> ich interessiere mich für so etwas sehr. was genau muss ich da lernen? für genau sowas?
[19:34] <snooky1988> ich mache zurzeit mein fachabi
[19:34] <musca> zunächstmal Lesen lernen
[19:35] <musca> drei Viertel des Artikels befassen sich mit Gegenmassnahmen, die hast Du doch glatt übersprungen.
[19:35] <snooky1988> ich habe vor jahren einen film gesehen und seitdem habe ich dieses drang etwas derartiges zu lernen
[19:35] <bekks> http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internet_Protocol
[19:35] <kubine> bekks: Title: Internet Protocol – Wikipedia (at de.wikipedia.org)
[19:36] <snooky1988> und gerade schaue ich schonwieder einen derartigen film
[19:37] <bekks> Und jetzt willst du das auch können. Dann würde ich Dir raten, Kontakt zum Drehbuchautor aufzunehmen.
[19:37] <snooky1988> na, wer hat den Film "Hackers" geschrieben?
[19:37] <bekks> Hat genau NICHTS mit Ubuntusupport zu tun.
[19:38] <snooky1988> paar piepstöne ins Telefon und man kann frei telefonieren :)
[19:38] <snooky1988> das ist doch alles netzwerk
[19:38] <snooky1988> und sollte doch uni OS sein
[19:38] <bekks> So, jetzt hast du genug Offtopic geschwafelt.
[19:39] <bekks> Das hier ist ein Supportchannel, wie es auch im Topic steht.
[19:40] <snooky1988> ist ja gut
[19:41] <snooky1988> Dann installiere ich Ubuntu auf den Server und will das mit Ubuntu anstellen. Ist es dann "supoortchannel gerecht"?
[19:41] <bekks> JA, dann mach das erstmal.
[19:42] <bekks> Und selbst dann wird das hier nicht zum "ich will Lernen wie die das in Hollywoodfilmen machen"-Kanal.
[19:45] <snooky1988> nunja, es geht mir ja nicht um die Datenmanipulation oder ähnliches. Eher um meinen "selbstschutz". Das war nur so eine frage am rande. Und, das "viel" möglich ist das wissen wir beide denke ich mal.
[19:46] <snooky1988> mich würden auch so sachen mit dem Traffic und Drosselung interessieren. so das ich jedem User individuell geschwindigkeit zur verfügung stellen kann. Ich hatte mal einen ganz alten Switch da war das möglich. Tolle sache
[19:47] <bekks> So, hast Du ein Ubuntu?
[19:47] <bekks> Wenn nicht, ist das hier alles Fehl am Platze.
[19:47] <snooky1988> lade das image gerade
[19:48] <snooky1988> SO schnell lässt sich keine distri installieren
[19:48] <snooky1988> also virtuelles system vielleicht
[19:48] <snooky1988> aber nicht physikalisch
[19:48] <bekks> Ich brauche für eine Ubuntu Installation gemessene 238 Sekunden.
[19:48] <bekks> Inklusive Reboots.
[19:49] <bekks> Abgesehen davon wirst Du als erstes das hier brauchen: http://wiki.ubuntuusers.de/Router
[19:49] <kubine> bekks: Title: Router › Wiki › ubuntuusers.de (at wiki.ubuntuusers.de)
[19:49] <snooky1988> formatierung, LVM, partitionierung usw?
[19:49] <bekks> Natürlich.
[19:49] <snooky1988> 238sek?
[19:49] <bekks> http://wiki.ubuntuusers.de/PXE-Installation
[19:49] <kubine> bekks: Title: PXE-Installation › Wiki › ubuntuusers.de (at wiki.ubuntuusers.de)
[19:49] <bekks> Ja. 238 Sekunden.
[19:50] <bekks> Inklusive Customizing.
[19:50] <snooky1988> Ubuntu kann wie auch Debian übers Netzwerk installiert werden.
[19:50] <snooky1988> ?
[19:50] <snooky1988> basiert ubuntu nicht auf debian?
[19:50] <phillip> jo
[19:50] <phillip> jo
[19:52] <snooky1988> meines wissens ist ubuntu ein abgespecktes debian
[19:52] <snooky1988> letzten endes basiert alles auf UNIX
[19:52] <bekks> Dann ist dein Wissen inkorrekt.
[19:52] <bekks> Blödsinn.
[19:52] <bekks> Du solltest zuerstmal den Unterschied zwischen Linux und UNIX nachlesen.
[19:53] <phillip> snooky1988: ubuntu basiert auf Debian
[19:53] <snooky1988> ich nutze seit jahren debian und gentoo. ubuntu mal als live cd / stick
[19:53] <snooky1988> windows garnicht
[19:53] <snooky1988> unix habe ich nie kapiert
[19:53] <bekks> Das ändert nichts daran, dass dein Wissen falsch ist.
[19:56] <snooky1988> ausser paar "anderen" befehlen sehe ich selber keine großen unterschiede
[19:57] <bekks> Das mag sein. Dennoch sind Unix und Linux zwei völlig verschiedene Dinge.
[19:57] <snooky1988> ja unix und linux vielleicht
[19:57] <bekks> Genau darum ging es...
[19:57] <snooky1988> aber ich meine zwischen debian ubuntu, gentoo etc
[19:58] <bekks> 0425 215217 < snooky1988> meines wissens ist ubuntu ein abgespecktes debian
[19:58] <bekks> 0425 215224 < snooky1988> letzten endes basiert alles auf UNIX
[19:58] <bekks> Das impliziert dass du Linux und UNIX vergleichst.
[19:58] <snooky1988> was mich auch interssiert ist wie ich bei android (ist ja auch ein linux) auf die Shell komme
[19:58] <bekks> Frag in einem Androidkanal.
[19:58] <bekks> Das hier ist und bleibt Ubuntusupport.
[19:58] <snooky1988> dann bleiben wir bei ubuntu und debian
[19:59] <snooky1988> apt-get und aptitude
[19:59] <snooky1988> wow
[19:59] <snooky1988> unity bei ubuntu
[19:59] <snooky1988> wow
[19:59] <bekks> Wir bleiben NICHT bei Debian.
[19:59] <snooky1988> die kerne sind meiner ansicht nach die gleichen
[19:59] <snooky1988> ubuntu ist up to dater, ok
[19:59] <bekks> Deine Ansicht ist völlig egal.
[20:00] <bekks> Alleine schön die Patchstände der Kernelpakete sind unterschiedlich. Damit sind sogar die Kernelpakete "nicht gleich".
[20:00] <bekks> *schon
[20:02] <snooky1988> wenn ich gleich weg bin nicht wundern. ich komme wieder aber dann fällt mein router aus
[20:02] <snooky1988> ;)
[20:02] <snooky1988> muss ja ubuntu installieren
[20:24] <dreamon> Gibt es eine Möglichkeit wlan zu debuggen? Ich hab hier immer wieder ein stehendes Wlan, das dann plötzlich wieder normal weiterläuft. Obwohl der Router unmittelbar in der Nähe ist.
[20:25] <dreamon> Verbindung trennt nicht, aber es wird nichts mehr empfangen.
[20:25] <dreamon> Transferrate ist dann 0B/s
[20:32] <k-stz> dreamon: wenn es sich in der selben zeitspanne trennt und wiederverbindet kann es sein das dein treiber roaming nicht richtig beherrscht
[20:32] <k-stz> wenn du es abschalten kannst könnte es das problem beheben
[20:33] <k-stz> roaming: wlan karte sucht alle paar minuten (z.b. alle 2min) einen näheren accesspoint
[20:38] <dreamon> k-stz, Ich hätte kein Problem das zu deaktivieren. Aber ein Richtiger Verbindungabbruch ist es nicht.. es kommen nur keine Daten mehr.. gesendet wird, aber empfang ist 0B/s. Dann plötzlich läufts wieder weiter als wäre nichts gewesen.
[20:38] <bekks> Dann deaktivier es doch...
[20:39] <dreamon> Wo wird es deaktiviert?
[20:48] <k-stz> dreamon: schau mal in den einstellungen wenn du auf das wlan symbol drückst
[20:49] <k-stz> dreamon: wenn du dort nichts findest dann wird es ohne weiteres nicht klappen. Ich müsste damals den treiber source code ändert und recompilieren.. yep, ich habe es sein lassen
[20:50] <k-stz> ach, richtig. Ich habe damals einen anderen wlan client benutzt: wicd, bei dem hat es ohne weiteres plötzlich funktioniert
[20:51] <dreamon> Eigentlich ist kein weiterer Router in Reichweite, auf den er ausweichen könnte. Auf jedenfall keiner, mit dem er schon mal ausser dem einen Verbunden gewesen wäre und eine Verbindung aufbauen könnte ohne Passwort.
[20:51] <k-stz> dreamon: es kommt nicht drauf an ob er einen anderen findet beim roaming, er wird trotzdem versuchen irgenwas zu suchen. In dem moment trennt er die verbindung (treiber bug)
[20:53] <k-stz> aber wie gesagt nicht alles auf roaming schieben, das ist nur meine vermutung weil ich dieses problem schon öfter beobachtet habe. Alternativ den WICD client probieren
[20:53] <dreamon> Habe schon 2 Verschiedene Wlan Adapter versucht, das Problem war bei beiden Identisch.
[20:53] <k-stz> das ist schade
[20:53] <dreamon> k-stz, Danke ich werde das auf jedenfall testen, das Wlan macht mich verrückt.
[20:54] <k-stz> dreamon: ich leide mit dir, ich habe mich über nichts mehr geärgert bei linux als mein wlan, viel glück ;)
[20:54] <bekks> Es kommt wohl auf den Chipsatz und damit den Treiber an.
[20:59] <k-stz> Treiber = beherscht roaming nicht richtig; aber auch netzwerk-manager = erlaubt es nicht abzuschalten, eigentlich gab es schon mehrmals anfragen das feature bereit zu stellen
[20:59] <k-stz> vielleicht ist es irgentwo in den menüs enthalten
[21:09] <dreamon> k-stz, Leider nein.
[21:10] <dreamon> http://askubuntu.com/questions/224999/ubuntu-wifi-roaming-problem-how-do-i-set-wireless-sensitivity-on-ubuntu
[21:10] <kubine> dreamon: Title: Ubuntu wifi roaming problem: how do I set wireless sensitivity on ubuntu? - Ask Ubuntu (at askubuntu.com)
[21:12] <dreamon> k-stz, Es ist auf jedenfall mal ein Ansatz, den ich verfolgen kann. Danke dir.
[21:12] <dreamon> Gute N8
[21:19] <k-stz> gute nacht
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[04:33] <ubuntero> Hola
[04:35] <ubuntero> Hay alguien
[15:35] <ubuntero> Flisol existe este año?
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2015-04-25-#ubuntu-bugs
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[17:14] <teward> hey, stupid question, but is there a hierarchy of bug triage such that someone else in the chain has higher priority decision over bug importance / triage for a given package than others?
[17:18] <penguin42> teward: Well there is bugsquad and bug-control and the package-maintainers for a particular package, and then there is bdmurray
[17:19] <teward> penguin42: so essentially, higher-to-lower is... bdmurray (ultimate final authority), package-maintainers/uploaders, bug-control, bugsquad, in that order?
[17:19] <teward> 'cause i have issues with how Alberto handles triage
[17:20] <teward> trying to determine the hierarchy of authority for the package i have issues with how he handled the bug
[17:20] <penguin42> teward: I'm not sure what the formal way to moan is
[17:20] <teward> mmm
[17:20] <teward> well he's caused strife before... enough evidence of that lying around
[17:21] <penguin42> I've also had issues with some peoples triaging mechanisms, but I can't say I know how to referee it
[17:22] <penguin42> teward: If you've already asked nicely and not got anywhere, I'd say ask bdmurray, as the owner of bugcontrol team
[17:23] <teward> penguin42: you know what the problem is? Alberto's a hard one to find
[17:23] <teward> i also think 'high' importance is dependent on being able to reproduce the bugs - I fail to see any evidence where Alberto went and actually did any reproduction tests
[17:23] <teward> meh, maybe i'm just griping for the sake of griping :/
[17:24] <penguin42> teward: I wouldn't necessary try to reproduce for a 'high' if the problem sounds grim enough
[17:24] <teward> penguin42: the big problem I have is systemd now - it doesn't actually output useful information
[17:24] <teward> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/nginx/+bug/1447294 is the bug if you want to take a look
[17:24] <teward> i don't have an issue with "High" but there's zero useful data from the dpkg history
[17:24] <penguin42> teward: and anyway, if it's failing for a bunch of people but as a triager you can't reproduce it, then you can't dismiss the bug just because you can't reproduce it
[17:24] <teward> penguin42: two people is a bunch?
[17:25] <teward> penguin42: i'm not dismissing the bug - i'm dismissing Alberto's actions
[17:25] * penguin42 looks
[17:25] <teward> penguin42: you can even see I asked for more information to try and deduce *what* caused dpkg to fail
[17:25] <teward> penguin42: also why i asked in -devel if there's a way to force apport to run certain additional commands to get information
[17:25] <teward> (if apport gave us information for nginx that actually helped debug it, that'd be one thing, but in this case, it gave us zero truly useful information)
[17:26] <teward> i agree that "High" is valid, but the problem being that there's no debug data of use (and Alberto should know this)
[17:27] <teward> is why i'm complaining.
[17:27] <penguin42> teward: I'd have to agree that a package like nginx failing to install/uninstall is probably a high
[17:27] <teward> *cough* [2015/04/25 13:26:52] <teward> i agree that "High" is valid, but the problem being that there's no debug data of use (and Alberto should know this)
[17:27] <teward> penguin42: i'm complaining that Alberto just set importance and did no additional triage work
[17:27] <penguin42> teward: Right, but the fact you don't have any debug data doesn't change the importance
[17:27] <teward> penguin42: at what point did i say that
[17:27] <teward> i'm complaining that alberto could have gone a step further and actually bothered to do triage work
[17:28] <penguin42> teward: I think it's OK to set importance and not to do further triage
[17:28] <teward> i think that's what annoys me most - i fail to see him doing anything else but setting importance and such
[17:28] <teward> maybe i'm biased by upload privs for it, but meh
[17:28] <penguin42> teward: While I'd agree it would be nice to do more triage, maybe he felt he doesn't know nginx well enough and it's better to leave it to those who do
[17:28] <teward> (the consideration point being, if users see an importance set they thin that means "Oh, nice, someone's actually working to test and reproduce." and gives them a false view on it.
[17:29] <teward> penguin42: IMO he should just stop touching server bugs, his focus seems to be GUI *shrugs*
[17:29] <teward> maybe i'm just having a bad week
[17:29] <teward> although he gets on my radar as an irritant far too often
[17:30] <penguin42> teward: It would be worse if he was to ask irrelevant questions on the package to triage it
[17:30] <teward> well, then i'd be bothering bdmurray and saying he shouldn't have bug control, but that's a different story altogether
[17:30] <penguin42> teward: If he knows he doesn't know the package but sees the bug looks important it seems reasonable to triage; and then let the package owner decide otherwise
[17:30] * teward shrugs
[17:30] <teward> penguin42: what's interesting is the latest failures there are dpkg failures, either because they used nginx.org's packages, or because of a nondeterministic failue due to no debug info
[17:31] <teward> i really wish we could tell apport what to actually get for a given package's failures
[17:31] <teward> (i'd love the systemd status for bugs :/)
[17:31] <penguin42> teward: I'm not sure of the details of apport but I think you can add stuff
[17:31] <teward> mmm, i might suggest that to Debian, since that's their systemd script
[17:32] <penguin42> teward: A lot of package installation failures are random installation screwups, disk fulls etc - but sometimes you do get things where a package assumes things about the /etc config files for the package and fails to install/uninstall - and those are valid bugs
[17:32] <penguin42> brb - I just need to check on my sorbet
[17:32] <teward> penguin42: given that there's usable debug data, then yes
[17:32] <teward> however in a fresh installation like was above, where none of the apt history shows nginx being installed, that adds to the complexity
[17:34] <penguin42> hmm, still sorbifying
[17:35] <penguin42> teward: Well, it could be something like a missing dependency depending what packages people chose
[17:35] <teward> penguin42: well they installed nginx-full, which called in the dependency for nginx-common - and that did install (see the dpkgterminalhistory)
[17:36] <teward> based on the info available i really wish I could force Apport to get additional data, but meh
[17:36] <teward> (systemd is giving me headaches >.<)
[17:36] <penguin42> teward: I'm fairly sure that's possible; but need to check with the apport guys
[17:36] <teward> here's the journal errors...
[17:37] <teward> Apr 22 14:24:32 hostname systemd[1]: Failed to start A high performance web server and a reverse proxy server. Apr 22 14:24:32 hostname systemd[1]: nginx.service failed.
[17:37] <teward> ^ nothing useful
[17:37] <teward> just like dpkg's output
[17:37] <teward> i think i need to talk to the apport people
[17:37] <penguin42> teward: I'd consider journalctl -u nginx or something like that
[17:38] <penguin42> teward: but that depends where nginx sends it's logs
[17:38] <teward> penguin42: /var/log/nginx/* i think is still the log dir, but a service failure... no idea.
[17:38] <teward> the systemd stuff is new enough that it's a headahce :P
[17:38] <teward> (back later)
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2015-04-25-#ubuntu-gnome
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[00:44] <LinDol> hi all :)
[04:20] <LinDol> i got ready for USB bootable disk :)
[04:20] <LinDol> installing :)
[04:57] <lindol> installing is finished , wow,
[04:57] <lindol> i think VV is very fast and sensitive :)
[04:58] <lindol> wow. Thank you for all ;)
[09:15] <lindol> Heloo :)
[09:16] <lindol> so, I translated release note to Korean for ReleaseNote
[09:16] <lindol> where could i send link to by email?
[09:16] <lindol> ?
[09:31] <darkxst> hi lindol
[09:31] <darkxst> email list?
[09:32] <darkxst> lindol, you seen bug 1440275
[09:32] <lindol> oops,
[09:33] <lindol> i sent email already
[09:33] <darkxst> ok, good
[09:34] <lindol> darkxst, bug? i am not yet
[09:34] <lindol> i am checking now about bug (1440275)
[09:34] <darkxst> lindol, using vivid?
[09:34] <lindol> yeha,
[09:34] <lindol> I installed it before 2 hour :)
[09:36] <darkxst> lindol, fresh install? can you comment on the bug with whatever is on your system, (working or not)
[09:36] <lindol> darkxst, yeha, I installed by fresh install.
[09:36] <lindol> so, bug 1440275 works fine.
[09:37] <lindol> Language: Korean, format: Korean.
[09:38] <darkxst> lindol, thanks for confirming, can you add those comments to the bug if you havent already!
[09:39] <lindol> in launch pad?
[09:40] <darkxst> lindol, yes please
[09:47] <lindol> darkxst, Tim, i wrote comment now :)
[09:47] <lindol> so, sorry, i am still learnning english.
[09:47] <lindol> T_T
[09:56] <darkxst> lindol, its ok, Ive told you before your english is pretty good, for was it 1 year learning?
[09:58] <lindol> yes. :)
[09:58] <lindol> Thank you for your help and teaching. :)
[10:07] <lindol> haha. time to go for a waching movie
[10:07] <lindol> See again, Thank you for all :)
[12:16] <Athos-x> Hi there people...
[12:17] <Athos-x> I am having quite the difficulty getting plymouth splash to work again, i have tried every fix out there and absolutely nothing seems to work.
[12:17] <Athos-x> Ubuntu Gnome 15.04
[12:19] <Athos-x> Is anyone familiar with this problem? It happened after installing the propietary Nvidia drivers.
[12:19] <Athos-x> Which is quite normal... But the fixes do not seem to work...
[12:19] <Athos-x> Well thanks anyways... Seems like a Ghost IRC town here lol. God bless...
[13:29] <TommyBrunn> Hi guys. Is there anything like the "alternate cd" for Ubuntu Gnome? I'm having issues getting Ubuntu Gnome installed (ubiquity crashing).
[13:30] <TommyBrunn> Also, which logs should I be looking at to get an idea of what's going wrong? Basically, Ubiquity gets to the "who are you" part, and then when I click continue, it just closes itself and then nothing happens, except my cursor spins for a while.
[13:34] <TommyBrunn> Alright, found the log at least.
[14:21] <fishears> Hi guys. Quick question... if I add the gnome staging ppa to 15.04 do I just refresh and do the partial upgrade that is offered to get 3.16 installed?
[14:27] <fishears> i'll try again later, thanks
[14:37] <f1she4rs> Hi, I'm on 15.04 and want to get Gnome Shell 3.16 installed. I've added the staging PPA and updater now offers me a Partial Upgrade. Is that what I need to do? Thanks, I haven't used Gnome for years now.
[19:32] <Kiel182> Hi everyone
[19:34] <Kiel182> I'm kind of having a problem : I'm trying to mount a cdrom (audio, store-bought). I can access it via rhythmbox, amarok and everything, but I need to mount it so i can access it on another computer via ssh. When I try I get the following error : mount: /dev/cdrom: can't read superblock
[19:34] <Kiel182> Any idea how to 'fix' that ?
[19:48] <arthurfiggis> hello :) i've been using ubuntu gnome 15.04 for the past few days and aside from one problem i've come across it's been great...i use a logitech wireless keyboard and mouse, and with full hard disk encryption enabled, you can't type in the password to decrypt the hard drive :( i had to connect up a wired usb keyboard, at which point i could type it in...and the wireless keyboard/mouse both work fine once it boots, as well as if hard
[19:48] <arthurfiggis> drive encryption is disabled...has anyone else come across this?
[19:49] <pirivan> Hello, need help installing 15.04. My laptop boots OK from USB stick, I then click the launcher "Install Ubuntu Gnome 15.04," a new window pops up (I can't see what that really is, language selector maybe?), and then it exits. Nothing else happens. What command can I use on the CLI to launch the installer (maybe I can see some error messages there)?
[20:16] <pirivan> any idea how to launch the 15.04 installer from the command line?
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2015-04-25-#ubuntu-x
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[18:39] <bandit-led> so back to the dkms issue lots of us are having since uvm was changed from a separate package into nvidia-3xx
[18:43] <bandit-led> copying /usr/src/nvidia-349-349.16/uvm to /usr/src/nvidia-349-uvm-349.16 and using the dkms files from https://launchpad.net/~mamarley/+archive/ubuntu/nvidia/+files/nvidia-349_349.16-100ubuntu100%7Eppa0%7Evivid_amd64.deb
[18:43] <bandit-led> dkms builds both the nvidia and the nvidia-uvm modules correctly
[18:46] <bandit-led> sudo dkms install -m nvidia -v 349-349.16 -k 4.0.0-rc1-02232015
[18:46] <bandit-led> sudo dkms install -m nvidia-349-uvm -v 349.16 -k 4.0.0-rc1-02232015
[18:57] <bandit-led> and the dkms from https://launchpad.net/~mamarley/+arc...ivid_amd64.deb copied into /usr/src/nvidia-349-uvm-349.16
[18:58] <bandit-led> as i posted on the forums i gave myself a headache trying to figure out the dkms file from xorg-edgers and patching it..
[18:58] <bandit-led> so if some one could build upon what mamarley has fixed in his release we could get a fix added to xorg-edgers that would take care of a bunch of bugs on the tracker.
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2015-04-25-#ubuntu-server
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[00:50] <xenon_pi> i hav installed CppCMS. now, how to use it???
[07:32] <lordievader> Good morning.
[07:48] <_2_rosa> hola
[10:49] <vishnu_> hi can anyone help me set permission
[10:50] <DietDrK> Why can i get "date | sendmail -v [email protected]" to work but not "sendmail -v [email protected]" ?
[13:39] <devster31> hi, is it possible to pipe a command to sed? what I'm trying to do is finding the path of an executable and substitute it into a file, something like which zip | sed -i "s/path=' '/path='whatever the result of which zip'/" filename
[18:06] <nszceta_> ubuntu@ip-10-0-2-100:~$ update-rc.d uat-emperor defaults
[18:06] <nszceta_> error: unable to read /etc/init.d/uat-emperor at /usr/sbin/update-rc.d line 176.
[18:06] <nszceta_> what do
[18:41] <bekks> nszceta_: Does that file exist?
[18:41] <nszceta_> got bigger problems now. does upstart convert a source file into a sysv init file?
[18:41] <nszceta_> because I can't figure out how to start a service I wrote in upstart syntax
[18:42] <nszceta_> I usually deal with systemd, this is all really strange to me
[18:47] <devster31> I don't think upstart relies on update-rc.d
[18:48] <bekks> nszceta_: upstart does not convert anything.
[18:48] <bekks> !upstart | nszceta_
[18:49] <nszceta_> nevermind, I ended up creating a SysV init script and everything is dandy
[21:23] <lunaphyte> hi. i've just done a do-release-upgrade from 14.10 to 15.04, and at the last step of the upgrade process, when it reboots, the reboot fails
[21:23] <Patrickdk> :(
[21:24] <lunaphyte> http://dpaste.com/3XG2Z3A
[21:24] <lunaphyte> yeah
[21:25] <Patrickdk> sounds like upstart -> systemd fail
[21:25] <lunaphyte> that was the feeling i had, yeah
[21:25] <Patrickdk> no idea, I only run the lts releases normally
[21:28] <lunaphyte> init 6 doesn't work either
[21:28] <Patrickdk> expected
[21:28] <lunaphyte> yeah
[21:29] <lunaphyte> what other ways can i reboot, aside from pulling the plug?
[21:29] <Patrickdk> I can't think of any myself
[21:30] <Patrickdk> so much for QA
[21:30] <lunaphyte> ubuntu has been bumming me out more frequently lately
[21:31] <lunaphyte> >systemctl reboot
[21:31] <lunaphyte> Failed to get D-Bus connection: Operation not permitted
[21:41] <Patrickdk> yep, I think it's time for me to move on, given how the last two releases have gone, I have no hope for 16.04
[22:18] <cribbageSTARSHIP> Can someone tell me if this rsync crontab is right "0 0 * * Mon rsync -avucz --update --progress --human-readable /media/osstorage/ /media/osbunker"? I just want to update changes to my file server mondays at midnight
[23:22] <Cuken> Does anyone have a few to try and walk me through extending my LVM partitions across three new disks. I'm not able to get any of the commands to work from the forum posts I'm reading
[23:27] <Patrickdk> !ask
[23:36] <Cuken> What partition table should I use for a 3tb hard drive that I'm going to extend the LVM volume onto?
[23:37] <Patrickdk> well, you have two options
[23:37] <Patrickdk> gpt, or none
[23:38] <cribbageSTARSHIP> http://pastebin.com/HRbv7vSL If anyone has a chance, can you please look at my auto rsync crontab? just want to make sure this code is right so i dont mess up my system.
[23:44] <Cuken> That fixed it Patrickdk, moving it to GPT allowed me to add it
[23:58] <Cuken> If you use the guided partition step in the ubuntu setup, and you have it do the LVM, does it install the OS on the LVM?
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ubuntu-chat
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2015-04-25-#ubuntu-translators
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[13:40] <profus2> hi everybody
[13:40] <profus2> first time user of launchpad translator
[13:41] <profus2> could somebody help me out
[13:41] <profus2> what i am supposed to do after finishing translation
[13:41] <profus2> download translation and save it in a *.po file
[13:41] <profus2> ?
[13:41] <profus2> and after that upload po file to the project?
[14:04] <profus2> can someboy help me out or point me in the right direction?
[16:24] <nik90> profus2: I dont know much, but you just need to fill in the translation and just press the "save and continue" at the bottom. The app developer will be able to either import the po files himself or let launchpad merge it into his trunk automatically.
[16:25] <nik90> profus2: as a translator, you shouldn't have to worry about download the po file and uploading it. That's the app dev's job of ensuring it is merged into his trunk branch.
[16:27] <profus2> @nik: i was so entrenched in doing the translations, did not see your reply
[16:28] <profus2> after finishing I clicked on "download translation" and recieive a po file via email
[16:28] <profus2> out of curiosity i installed a po-editor and had a look at it
[16:29] <profus2> the editor gave me some more insights such as missing strings which seemed not to have been saved to the translation file
[16:30] <profus2> software is cross platform and called poedit
[16:31] <profus2> the nicest feature it had, was the ability to compare my translation to "machine translation" and to translation of others
[16:32] <profus2> which led me to to an update on several on my translations
[16:32] <nik90> profus2: I got to run, but it is not necessary to download the po afaik..may be someone might be able.
[16:33] <nik90> Happy translating ;)
[16:33] <profus2> after saving the po file i uploaded it
[16:33] <profus2> @nik90: anyway thanks for replying and trying to help me out
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2015-04-25-#ubuntu-si
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[01:02] <upd> :)
[06:00] <jabuk> M 1.6 > 4.km SV od KRANJSKE GORE @25/04/2015 07:51:05 https://maps.google.com/?q=46.5+N,+13.84+E
[07:43] <CrazyLemon> .radar
[07:43] <jabuk> Radarska slika padavin: http://www.arso.gov.si/vreme/napovedi%20in%20podatki/radar_anim.gif
[09:44] <CrazyLemon> .yt towkio reflection
[09:44] <jabuk> Towkio - Reflection https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BrvrK5xzmWI
[10:14] <zdobbie> kje ste/niste!
[10:35] <R33D3M33R_> pozdrav, a je kdo že uspešno izvedel dist-upgrade iz 14.10 na 15.04 (v konzoli)?
[10:41] <dz0ny> is on 15.10
[10:41] <dz0ny> :)
[10:51] <CrazyLemon> so hip so cool
[10:51] <CrazyLemon> :>
[10:51] <CrazyLemon> R33D3M33R_ kaj čakaš??
[10:51] <CrazyLemon> napiši novico o 15.04!
[10:51] <R33D3M33R_> ja ja, bom no
[10:52] <CrazyLemon> že en dan zamujaš!
[10:52] <R33D3M33R_> včeraj sem bil na openway :P
[10:52] <CrazyLemon> je bela cesta!
[10:52] <CrazyLemon> no med predavanji bi lahk komot spisal novico! :>
[10:52] <CrazyLemon> nič..lejtr
[10:52] <Guest36010> vau ...
[10:52] <Guest36010> wtf?
[11:12] <dz0ny> Guest36010: si pozabil geslo?
[11:12] <Guest36010> ne, v bistvu sem začasno zaklenjen ven, ker je povezava enih parkrat padla
[11:17] <R33D3M33R> no končno :)
[11:58] <yang> http://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-32461019
[11:58] <Seniorita> Nepal earthquake: Hundreds die, many feared trapped - BBC News
[11:58] <Seniorita> »Hundreds of people are confirmed to have died as a powerful earthquake rocks Nepal, with the figure expected to rise.«
[13:32] <idioterna> https://bou.si/pic/lumberjack-nago.jpg
[13:50] <Seniorita> [Ubuntu.si] R33D3M33R: Kubuntu 15.04 prinaša velike spremembe https://www.ubuntu.si/forum/discussion/6317/kubuntu-15-04-prinasa-velike-spremembe
[13:51] <R33D3M33R> evo CrazyLemon, a si srečen? :P
[13:56] <R33D3M33R> še sliko sem dodal :)
[14:22] <yang> As you are probably already aware of, Debian 8.0 "jessie", is just a few
[14:22] <yang> hours away from becoming the next stable release.
[14:23] <idioterna> :systemd:
[14:28] <CrazyLemon> R33D3M33R zelo! še posebej zato ker si prvič v novico tudi sliko dodal :)
[16:08] <CrazyLemon> http://www.24ur.com/ekskluziv/zanimivosti/kitajske-oblasti-napovedale-vojno-pogrebnemu-striptizu.html
[16:08] <Seniorita> 24ur.com - Kitajske oblasti napovedale vojno pogrebnemu striptizu
[16:08] <Seniorita> »Kitajske oblasti so napovedale vojno pogrebnemu striptizu, s čimer se želijo postaviti po robu praksi angažiranja erotičnih plesalk in striptizet na pogrebih. S takšnimi nastopi namreč družina k zadnjemu sprevodu za pokojnim želi pritegniti čim več ljudi.«
[16:08] <CrazyLemon> fckin bastards
[16:09] <CrazyLemon> they took the fun out of funeral
[16:10] <idioterna> so, eral?
[16:13] <CrazyLemon> i guess so
[16:17] <CrazyLemon> .imdb the duff
[16:17] <jabuk> DUFF: Dezurni bajs (2015) 101 min Comedy
[16:17] <jabuk> Ocena: 6.9/10 (9,409 glasov) MT: 56/100
[16:17] <jabuk> A high school senior instigates a social pecking order revolution after finding out that she has been labeled the DUFF - Designated Ugly Fat Friend - by her prettier, more popular counterparts.
[16:17] <jabuk> Trailer: http://www.imdb.com/video/imdb/vi852340249/
[16:17] <jabuk> Povezava: http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1666801/
[16:26] <yang> idioterna: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q_IYrltqYrU
[16:26] <Seniorita> Mr Show - I'll Marry Your Stupid Ass - YouTube
[16:26] <Seniorita> »From Season 4.«
[16:43] <idioterna> not really my type of comedy
[16:43] <idioterna> http://thedailyshow.cc.com/extended-interviews/1swywc/exclusive-neil-degrasse-tyson-extended-interview je ful bols
[16:43] <Seniorita> Exclusive - Neil deGrasse Tyson Extended Interview Video - April 23, 2015 - The Daily Show | Comedy Central
[16:43] <Seniorita> »Astrophysicist Neil deGrasse Tyson explains why he won't be signing up to live on Mars, shares his excitement at the growing popularity of science, answers the question Batman vs. Superman, and discuses his show "StarTalk."«
[16:47] <zdobbie> wat en wasteday
[16:48] <idioterna> ma kr nice dan je bil
[16:49] <idioterna> bom uploadu
[17:05] * CrazyLemon was a grill master for a half a day
[17:06] <CrazyLemon> dz0ny predlagaš kakšno WP bootstrap temo? andreju je dolgčas :)
[17:07] <zdobbie> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=67cMet52mL4
[17:07] <Seniorita> The Imposter - Trailer (HD) (Frederic Bourdin) - YouTube
[17:07] <Seniorita> »http://TrailerObsessed.com A gripping thriller straight out of real life, THE IMPOSTER is an original film experience that walks the razor's edge between tru...«
[17:07] <zdobbie> to smo mnde ze gledal
[17:07] <idioterna> https://bou.si/pic/batch/spring-saturday
[17:07] <CrazyLemon> .rt
[17:07] <jabuk> Trenutno se predvaja: Verite - Weekend.
[17:08] <CrazyLemon> zdobbie a ni to kao based on true story?
[17:08] <zdobbie> CrazyLemon: mhm
[17:08] <zdobbie> .yt the imposter every frame a painting
[17:08] <jabuk> The Imposter (2012) - Looking into the Lens https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y0TnU80idDA
[19:02] <CrazyLemon> TV mi je crknu!
[19:07] <zdobbie> jeba!
[19:07] <zdobbie> zdej pa naus mogu gledat TdC
[19:10] <yang> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Eh8UrfkSL8M
[19:10] <Seniorita> Adi Smolar (Bognedaj, da bi crknu televizor) - Bognedaj, da bi crknu televizor - YouTube
[19:10] <Seniorita> »Izvajalci: Adi Smolar in Leteči potepuhi Album: Bognedaj, da bi crknu televizor Leto: 1995 1. Bognedaj, da bi crknu televizor 2. Eks za ex-ljubico 3. Zlo poč...«
[19:10] <CrazyLemon> sux
[19:10] <CrazyLemon> but!
[19:10] <CrazyLemon> dobu bom nov tv..for free
[19:11] <zdobbie> a od SiOLa?!
[19:12] <CrazyLemon> zdobbie ja
[19:12] <zdobbie> CrazyLemon: if it's free, YOU are the product
[19:12] <CrazyLemon> zdobbie idc i just want something new
[19:14] <zdobbie> CrazyLemon: the bike?
[19:14] <CrazyLemon> zdobbie are you offering me a brand new bike? coz the answer is yes i'll take it
[19:15] <zdobbie> CrazyLemon: http://assets.inhabitat.com/wp-content/blogs.dir/1/files/2012/09/fliz-rider-537x383.jpg
[19:16] <CrazyLemon> zdobbie you dont need to convince me..i said i'll take it
[19:30] <zdobbie> CrazyLemon: meeeh
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"CrazyLemon",
"Guest36010",
"R33D3M33R",
"R33D3M33R_",
"Seniorita",
"dz0ny",
"idioterna",
"jabuk",
"upd",
"yang",
"zdobbie"
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"channel": "#ubuntu-si"
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2015-04-25-#ubuntu-cz
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[17:27] <Squall> Zdravím, chci se zeptat zda má smysl používat SELinux jako bezpečnostní prvek na obyčenjém VPS serveru kde běží jen základní služby jako nginx, ftp, mail apd... ? :-)
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"authors": [
"Squall"
],
"url": "https://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2015/04/25/%23ubuntu-cz.txt",
"channel": "#ubuntu-cz"
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2015-04-25-#ubuntu-africa
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[08:21] <Kilos> pieter2627 as jy hier terug kyk na 23.20 het sy gese dis reg
[08:21] <Kilos> dis die 32bit
[08:22] <pieter2627> ok sal kyk
[08:36] <pieter2627> Kilos: wats reg by 23.20?
[08:37] <Kilos> daai link wat ek jou gegee het
[08:37] <Kilos> sy het gese dis die een vitr ou pcs
[08:37] <pieter2627> oh, hy download al
[08:37] <Kilos> 500 meg dink ek
[08:38] <pieter2627> yip
[08:42] <Kilos> lekker die uncapped ding ne
[08:42] <Kilos> ek moes wag vir middernag
[08:43] <pieter2627> yip, gelukkig is die ander in die huis nie nou op net anderse moes ek manager ook sit vir middernag
[08:43] <Kilos> ai!
[08:44] <Kilos> maar wget -c werk goed
[08:44] <Kilos> vinniger as browser download
[08:45] <pieter2627> ja dit is
[08:45] <Kilos> o het jy gesien die epos van william
[08:45] <Kilos> skryf neer hoe julle booktype instaleer op ec2 asb
[08:46] <pieter2627> nee, my setting is om een n dag te kry
[08:46] <Kilos> huh
[08:46] <Kilos> o een digest
[08:47] <pieter2627> het jacque nie reg gekom nie?
[08:47] <Kilos> ek weet nie
[08:47] <Kilos> hy het net verdwyn
[08:47] <Kilos> en sal seker eers weer dinsdag by wees
[08:49] <pieter2627> oh, check net gou goed oor lxc sal laat vermiddag kan kyk as ek dan tyd het
[08:50] <Kilos> ok maar geen haas nie dink ek , miskien het jacques dit al reg
[08:51] <pieter2627> ek wil in elk geval ec2 uit check
[08:51] <Kilos> ok
[08:51] <Kilos> vry goed is altyd lekker
[08:52] <pieter2627> speel goed is altyd lekker
[08:52] <Kilos> lol
[08:56] <stickyboy> Kilos: Going to meet Ethiopian Linux peeps soon.
[08:57] <stickyboy> https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/linux-ethiopia/xeavx8NmMy0
[09:00] <Kilos> enjoy stickyboy and tell them about our site and this channel hey
[09:00] <Kilos> otherwise ill put the mafia on you
[11:28] * Kilos waits for stickyboy to answer
[14:07] <ubuntiste-msakni> spotty
[14:07] <ubuntiste-msakni> ! spotty
[14:07] <ubuntiste-msakni> spotty !
[14:07] <Kilos> lol
[14:07] <ubuntiste-msakni> hey Kilos :D
[14:07] <Kilos> hi ubuntiste-msakni
[14:07] <ubuntiste-msakni> How to wake him? :p
[14:07] <Kilos> lemme try
[14:08] <Kilos> spotty ping
[14:08] <spotty> Kilos: Excuse me?
[14:08] <ubuntiste-msakni> spotty help
[14:08] <spotty> ubuntiste-msakni: I can help you with: administrative functions, bot accounts and permissions, debugging me, looking things up, remembering things, delivering messages, decisions, games, monitoring things, browsing the internet, conversions, silly fun stuff, calculations, system administration, software development and south african stuff.
[14:08] <spotty> Ask me "help me with ..." for more details.
[14:08] <Kilos> he is awake what do you want to know
[14:09] <ubuntiste-msakni> Can I write a msg for a user and when he'll be online spotty tell him that msg?
[14:09] <Kilos> its a python bot so common bot commands dont work
[14:09] <Kilos> yes
[14:09] <Kilos> say spotty tell nick message
[14:09] <ubuntiste-msakni> Cool.. how to do that x)
[14:10] <Kilos> as in spotty tell elacheche wake up lad
[14:10] <Kilos> spotty tell elacheche wake up lad
[14:10] <spotty> Kilos: Got it, I'll tell elacheche on freenode
[14:11] <ubuntiste-msakni> spotty tell melodie thank you very much for the ipSec link :)
[14:11] <spotty> ubuntiste-msakni: Righto, I'll tell melodie on freenode
[14:11] <ubuntiste-msakni> cool x)
[14:11] <Kilos> cool bot hey
[14:11] <Kilos> written by the za guys
[14:12] <ubuntiste-msakni> BTW, is it based on an Open License?
[14:12] <ubuntiste-msakni> Cool :)
[14:12] <Kilos> look in repos at ibid
[14:12] <ubuntiste-msakni> ok thx :)
[14:12] <Kilos> np
[19:28] <Kilos> stickyboy you speak french?
[19:28] <Kilos> https://aful.org/gul/liste#afrique
[19:29] <melodie> hi
[19:29] <spotty_> melodie: By the way, ubuntiste-msakni on freenode told me "tell melodie thank you very much for the ipSec link :)" 5 hours, 18 minutes and 27 seconds ago
[19:30] <melodie> thanks spotty_
[19:31] <Kilos> spotty_ is our bot
[19:31] <melodie> Kilos can't I thank a bot?
[19:31] <melodie> :D
[19:31] <melodie> lol
[19:32] <melodie> do you think bots don't have a soul? XD
[19:32] <Kilos> yes spotty_ thanks
[19:32] <Kilos> ai!
[19:32] <Kilos> spotty_ thanks
[19:32] <spotty_> Kilos: not at all
[19:32] <Kilos> this one makes coffee too
[19:32] <Kilos> spotty_ coffee on
[19:32] * spotty_ starts grinding coffee
[19:32] <melodie> Kilos see? the bot program isn't that stupid
[19:33] <Kilos> this is an ibid bot in the repos
[19:33] <melodie> :D
[19:33] <Kilos> written by za peeps
[19:33] <Kilos> can do meeting minutes and lots more
[19:33] <Kilos> spotty_ help
[19:33] <spotty_> Kilos: I can help you with: administrative functions, bot accounts and permissions, debugging me, looking things up, remembering things, delivering messages, decisions, games, monitoring things, browsing the internet, conversions, silly fun stuff, calculations, system administration, software development and south african stuff.
[19:33] <spotty_> Ask me "help me with ..." for more details.
[19:36] <spotty_> Coffee's ready for Kilos!
[19:37] <Kilos> spotty_ ty
[19:37] <spotty_> My pleasure Kilos
[19:38] <melodie> for the French speaking Africa Linux users: https://aful.org/gul/liste#afrique
[19:39] <melodie> perhaps would you want to use it to make a full list of Africa LUG's, no matter the country?
[19:39] <melodie> * no matter the language I meant
[19:39] <melodie> sorry
[19:39] <melodie> hi elacheche_anis
[19:41] <Kilos> elacheche_anis that link is for you
[19:56] <elacheche_anis> Hey melodie Kilos actually all the Tunisian LUGs are no more actifs.. They are all dead..
[19:56] <elacheche_anis> Maybe I'll add Ubuntu Tunisia to that list.. Didn't knew that AFUL have a list
[19:57] <Kilos> thats no good, pull them into your loco
[19:57] <Kilos> dont leave any linux users out there in the dark if you can
[19:59] <Kilos> elacheche_anis do you think you can invite them to ur channel and site
[19:59] <Kilos> in french of course
[19:59] <Kilos> get your brother involved as well
[20:00] <Kilos> inetpro idea!
[20:00] <Kilos> what you think of us adding the lugs to our wiki page as well
[20:00] <Kilos> elacheche_anis ask neo if you get a chance
[20:01] <Kilos> please
[20:01] <melodie> on #linuxvillage we are talking in both en and fr, depending who we talk with, you can do it too here of course
[20:01] <Kilos> yes i agree but easier to first contact them in french
[20:02] <Kilos> this channel is not tied to english either
[20:03] <alphad> bonsoir
[20:03] <elacheche_anis> Unfortunately, I don't know those guys! They are inactif for a long time before I join the community.. BTW.. Not all Linux Users like Ubuntu here.. We have many who are against Ubuntu :D
[20:03] <elacheche_anis> bonsoir alphad
[20:04] <Kilos> hi alphad welcome to ubuntu-africa
[20:05] <Kilos> oh well elacheche_anis we can only try
[20:05] <Kilos> there is no where else that all the continents users can become one community
[20:06] <Kilos> like stickyboy isnt an ubuntu user
[20:07] <Kilos> but he has become a friend
[20:09] <melodie> alphad elacheche_anis is in Tunisia, Kilos in South Africa - elacheche_anis Kilos alphad is in Ivoria
[20:09] * melodie knows ^^
[20:10] <Kilos> aha ty for that
[20:10] <melodie> elacheche_anis tell them all ubuntu users and devs are not ok with Canonical's lens leading to amazon and don't do that
[20:11] <melodie> as far as I know gnomeubuntu doesn't and same for xubuntu, and for lubuntu
[20:11] <Kilos> melodie do they have a ubuntu loco there
[20:11] <elacheche_anis> hahaha.. Last time I was in the second row for RMS talk, just 1.5 meter way from him.. With my Ubuntu-tn T-shirt and he was staring to me and my boys and giving the talk how ubuntu is a spy x)
[20:12] <melodie> alphad do you have a LoCo in your country Kilos asks?
[20:12] * elacheche_anis GTG.. BRB..
[20:12] <Kilos> oh melodie there has been lots of comment about that lens, you can remove or disable it
[20:12] <melodie> elacheche_anis we need to tell him all Ubuntu are not, and that the improvements made on the code globally are worth it
[20:12] <melodie> and the word spread about foss too
[20:13] <melodie> Kilos I know, but personally Unity itself is also a horror
[20:13] <Kilos> yes thats why they have added ubuntu-mate as official now
[20:14] <melodie> I spread Xubuntu and Lubuntu along with my own Bento, never will I for Unity
[20:14] <Kilos> and i use kubuntu
[20:14] <melodie> ok
[20:17] <Kilos> ubuntu-mate is much like gnome2
[20:17] <Kilos> and faster than unity
[20:23] <melodie> Kilos my philosophy is that less is more
[20:23] <melodie> hurra for Openbox ! :D
[20:23] <Kilos> lol yes i like it
[20:23] <melodie> along with openbox-menu and obsession of course
[20:23] <melodie> :D
[20:23] <melodie> cool!
[20:23] <melodie> Kilos you are the ambassador of Bento in South Africa then!
[20:24] <Kilos> for older machines its great
[20:24] <melodie> perhaps the first there to try it ^^
[20:24] <melodie> Kilos in newer machines it works a treat too! I can tell
[20:24] <Kilos> i will tell the guys with old machines to try it yes
[20:24] <Kilos> i wont change from kde
[20:25] <melodie> well, I'll have to do something special to make it up to date with the Ubuntu officials though, because of uefi
[20:25] <Kilos> eish
[20:25] <melodie> Kilos you can have all the kde apps you want in Bento, it plays fine with gtk apps too
[20:25] <Kilos> lol you dont give up hey
[20:25] <melodie> I am using that to migrate outlook addressbooks from windows xp to ubuntu
[20:26] <melodie> to Evolution/thunderbird or else
[20:27] <melodie> Kilos I don't, this is what Openbox can do, be used with Gnome, (there is a bug lately, which needs attention, we will see) with Kde, with nothing, with lxde, and used to work with Xfce but doesn't anymore since a pair of years.
[20:27] <Kilos> i just did evolution to thunderbird, too much work for old peeps. inetpro had to help
[20:27] <melodie> you export, import to kaddressbook and from there re export to whatever format you need
[20:28] <Kilos> couple of years
[20:28] <melodie> this is a wonderful trick
[20:28] <melodie> tip
[20:28] <melodie> whatever you name it
[20:28] <Kilos> tip is right yes
[20:29] <melodie> thanks
[20:31] <Kilos> i will help you with english
[20:33] <melodie> thank you!
[20:33] <Kilos> youre welcome
[20:33] <melodie> with English. In French we use low case, in English high case. ;)
[20:33] <melodie> :p
[20:34] <melodie> we will help each other (-:
[20:34] <Kilos> ty
[20:34] <melodie> welcome you are
[20:34] <Kilos> i cant learn french
[20:34] <melodie> ok I don't mind
[20:35] <Kilos> too much linux to work out
[20:35] <melodie> you can learn "hello". simple, just say "bonjour"
[20:35] <Kilos> oh yes
[20:35] <Kilos> and salut
[20:35] <melodie> which really means good day (bon jour"
[20:35] <melodie> yes: salut!
[20:35] <Kilos> i can learn a few words like that yes
[20:35] <melodie> when you leave for lunch or dinner they tell you "bon appétit" (or bon appetit)
[20:36] <melodie> sure! :D
[20:36] <Kilos> oh yes
[20:36] <Kilos> enjoy
[20:36] <melodie> XD
[20:36] <melodie> nice !
[20:37] <stickyboy> Добър ден! (Good day!)
[20:37] <Kilos> whew
[20:38] <stickyboy> Bulgarian :D
[20:38] <stickyboy> God it looks slick on the Mac.
[20:39] <stickyboy> Typography like whaaaaaat.
[20:42] <melodie> stickyboy can you provide the pronunciation please?
[20:44] <Kilos> oh melody i have some french blood in me
[20:44] <Kilos> du preez
[20:44] <melodie> Kilos great!
[20:44] <melodie> I don't;
[20:44] <melodie> XD
[20:44] <Kilos> hahaha
[20:45] <melodie> I might have some blood issued from the ancien Huns, not sure exactly
[20:45] <Kilos> lol
[20:45] <melodie> well Duprez is a family which spread in several continents, including America I heard
[20:46] <stickyboy> melodie: Ah, yes! Добър ден == Dobur den.
[20:46] <melodie> stickyboy thanks!
[20:46] <melodie> Dubur den!
[20:46] <melodie> dobur den
[20:46] <melodie> sorry, my accent isn't quite right yet! :D
[20:46] <Kilos> haha
[20:47] <melodie> I see "p" is a "r" in Bulgarian
[20:47] <melodie> I new a miles from Bulgaria
[20:47] <melodie> wonder what he becomes?
[20:49] <melodie> Bento Sushi now has a pic online: http://linuxvillage.org/en/2015/04/sushi-trusty-in-test/
[20:49] <melodie> in English
[20:49] <melodie> and in French too: http://linuxvillage.org/blog/2015/04/24/sushi-trusty-a-tester/
[20:49] <melodie> then the big work is starting with packages to create and docs
[20:50] <melodie> Kilos I will provide it with all the sound packages next time, in both versions 32 and 64
[20:50] <Kilos> that is lots of work
[20:50] <melodie> in the meanwhile if you want the list of needed packages I can post that somewhere
[20:51] <Kilos> its only in xchat that they left out bell.ogg and added bell.oga as default
[20:51] <melodie> yes lots of work, and some help would be welcome, if some in African communities want to help get the best Openbox Ubuntu spin ever, they are welcome!
[20:51] <Kilos> and it makes a small sound
[20:51] <melodie> you say you need the sound, right?
[20:52] <Kilos> yes when im in kitchen or watching tv the bell.ogg akert calls me
[20:52] <melodie> ok
[20:52] <Kilos> alert
[20:52] <Kilos> i will check pidgin for sound tomorrow
[20:53] <melodie> I don't use sounds, I just come and have a look here and there when I do something else, and if I'm to leave it a long time I make myself away
[20:53] <Kilos> most people do that but i have only one eye left that works and it isnt very good
[20:54] <Kilos> so t look all over is hard work
[20:54] <Kilos> easier when sound tells me xchat or pidgin message
[20:54] <melodie> I understand
[20:57] <Kilos> i need to go sleep
[20:57] <Kilos> night everybody
[20:57] <melodie> sure, good night Kilos
[20:57] <Kilos> sleep tight
[20:57] <melodie> just a question Kilos
[20:57] <Kilos> yes
[20:57] <melodie> did the meditation work yesterday night? did it bring ideas this morning?
[20:58] <Kilos> no i dont think so. all i wanted to do was install bento
[20:58] <melodie> can you try again please?
[20:58] <Kilos> yes
[20:58] <Kilos> will do
[20:58] <melodie> then do it, thanks
[20:59] <Kilos> ok sleep tight melodie , dont stay awake so late
[20:59] <Kilos> then come online earlier
[20:59] <melodie> Kilos not sure, but just do the meditation, it helps improving the world :D
[20:59] <melodie> especially the world of foss ! ^^
[20:59] <Kilos> ok
[20:59] <Kilos> night
[21:00] <melodie> I can't come online earlier, have to work on the project before coming
[21:00] <melodie> good night!
[21:00] <Kilos> ok
[21:08] <melodie> elacheche_anis j'ai eu un message du bot où tu me remerciais pour des infos sur IPSec ?
[22:06] <elacheche_anis> melodie, hier soir tu m'as passé un lien à propos de strongSwan :) j'ai pas lu ton message que ce matin :)
[22:33] <melodie> elacheche_anis ça t'a aidé ce lien vers strongSwan ?
[22:33] <melodie> j'ai vu qu'il y a bien des infos sur IPSec sur wikipedia aussi, juste je me souviens pas si wikipedia fr ou en est le plus fourni
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"Kilos",
"alphad",
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"spotty_",
"stickyboy",
"ubuntiste-msakni"
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"channel": "#ubuntu-africa"
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2015-04-25-#ubuntu-vn
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[01:15] <gioans> xin chào, chúc một ngày an lành
[02:28] <vubuntor864> cá mập trung quốc
[02:28] <vubuntor864> năm nay cắn cáp việt nam nhiều lần quá
[02:31] <vubuntor864> vãi luyện có cả tin tức đổ lỗi cá mập luôn
[02:31] <vubuntor864> =]]]zzz
[02:31] <vubuntor864> cá mập mà cắn đc chắc trâu có đủ hàm răng
[02:31] <vubuntor864> =]]]zz
[02:33] <Stanley00> vubuntor864: thế có gì liên quan ubuntu không bạn? =]]
[02:33] <vubuntor864> không =]]]zz
[02:33] <vubuntor864> àk có làm cho cập nhật chậm đi
[02:34] <Stanley00> ubuntu có mirror trong nước mà, không liên quan :P
[02:36] <vubuntor864> lỡ cập nhật theo mirror main rồi nên giờ ko dùng đc :3
[02:36] <MrTuxHdb> kệ mm
[02:37] <vubuntor864> thô vl
[02:43] <CoconutCrab> ey
[02:43] <CoconutCrab> lịch sự nha
[09:14] <vubuntor571> gnome 3.16
[09:14] <vubuntor571> vừa ra
[09:14] <vubuntor571> chạy có 56 mb ram
[09:14] <vubuntor571> mượt lắm các bác
[09:15] <Stanley00> vubuntor571: lần sau thì gõ 4 cái đó và nhấn enter một lần thôi là đủ rồi nha bạn :P
[09:15] <vubuntor571> :D
[13:05] <vubuntor303> hello
[13:05] <vubuntor303> t muon cai win 8 tro lai
[13:06] <vubuntor303> nhung ko boot duoc bang usb
[13:06] <vubuntor303> the la sao ah?
[13:50] <vubuntor542> hj
[13:58] <MrTuxHdb> hand job?
[14:42] <vubuntor513> haloo
[15:49] <vubuntor963> co ai khong vay
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"CoconutCrab",
"MrTuxHdb",
"Stanley00",
"gioans",
"vubuntor303",
"vubuntor513",
"vubuntor542",
"vubuntor571",
"vubuntor864",
"vubuntor963"
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"channel": "#ubuntu-vn"
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2015-04-25-#ubuntustudio-devel
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[07:53] <OvenWerks> zequence: Installed xubuntu-core for a look see. Just installing our Audio meta and menu stub.
[07:56] <OvenWerks> It looks like it could be a good starting place, but we may want to add a "utilities" meta for tools we keep that are not part of any of the work flows. parted, gedit, taskmanager, synaptic, whatever.
[14:18] <zequence> I'm thinking either that, or lubuntu-core could be a nice foundation for a formal Ubuntu Studio DE setup
[14:47] <OvenWerks> zequence: lubuntu-core would be harder to work with. In my tests of dropping our metas on top of different DEs lxde was more work to get working.
[14:48] <OvenWerks> xfce also has a more "modern" look and feel.
[14:50] <OvenWerks> zequence: lxde will be getting changed to qt libs (in progress) so the time to use that would be after all that work is done.
[15:00] <OvenWerks> zequence: Also, I think xfce is still the closest thing to gnome 2.
[15:04] <OvenWerks> lxde feels to me like half way between fvwm and gnome2.
[15:08] <zequence> gnome2 for me is not relevant. Just that it works. What is hard to get working? The menu?
[15:09] <OvenWerks> The menu is not really any harder to make work.
[15:10] <OvenWerks> A new app takes longer to show up on the menu at all because the menu is(or was) updated by a separate app that dooes nt run all the time
[15:11] <OvenWerks> There is a smothness to xfce that is not there in lxde.
[15:11] <OvenWerks> gnome2 like is not an issue no, it is the smoothness of use I was talking about.
[15:12] <OvenWerks> lxde has a focus on being small, and for that something(s) have to be given up.
[15:13] <OvenWerks> lxde shines in less than 1Gram systems, but in our case our apps generally demand more than that anyway.
[15:14] <OvenWerks> The de in our case is not a big part of what is in memory or on disk.
[15:16] <OvenWerks> zequence: so unless a new DE is easier to work with for the user, I would not go that way.
[15:26] <zequence> OvenWerks: If we offer all the other DEs, much of your arguments are already covered
[15:26] <zequence> And could be there is no need for a default DE at all
[15:39] <astraljava> zequence: What's the general consensus about how we would be "offering" the DEs? Are we talking about the -desktop packages?
[15:41] <OvenWerks> astraljava: in most cases a desktop package is not needed/wanted
[15:42] <OvenWerks> Take the case where the user already has their desktop the way they want it, we don't want to/ mess with it
[15:43] <OvenWerks> Once the user has logged in once after install and then adds Studio to the mix... their desktop is already set and any default changes we would make would have no effect anyway.
[15:44] <astraljava> OvenWerks: Oh ok, so we're talking about a reverse process here. Thanks, got it. :)
[15:46] <OvenWerks> zequence: yes, Te user can choose which they like. For our main ISO (if we had one) it needs to be polished/up to date looking, but at the same time not get in the users way.
[15:47] <OvenWerks> That is function well on systems a little older (3 to 5 years not worrying about 10 years)
[15:48] <OvenWerks> astraljava: There are two scenerios, 1) Studio is part of the DEs install and 2) instaling Studio after wards.
[15:49] <OvenWerks> astraljava: Installing Studio afterwards is likely to be done first because it is a lot less work. (mostly there now)
[15:51] <OvenWerks> In general, DEs are changing away from being menu based, or at least what menu is left is less capable.
[15:53] <zequence> OvenWerks: What do you mean by 1)? Which DE?
[15:53] <OvenWerks> xfce and KDE still have a good "classic" menu available if the user wants it, but Unity and gnome session (or is it screen) tht is not the case.
[15:53] <OvenWerks> zequence: I mean making the DE a choice at install time
[15:53] <zequence> You can add a classic meny to Gnome pretty easily, if you want it though
[15:54] <OvenWerks> Yes but the classic menu on gnome does not handle multilevel menus like ours
[15:54] <OvenWerks> (last I looked)
[15:54] <zequence> I'm thinking we ship one DE on our ISO, but adjust our installer so that the user can choose to install other DEs over the internet, replacing our default choice
[15:55] <OvenWerks> Yes, that was what I thought when I described 1 above
[15:56] <OvenWerks> In that we are on the same/ page :)
[15:58] <OvenWerks> But having a classic menu option is not really the issue, the main thing is that people are moving away from the menu thing and I think Studio needs to rethink how we present our big chunk of applications in a menuless world.
[16:00] <OvenWerks> It seems having a freedesktop menu splice does not reall work well in the DE world. The xdg standarrds are not well supported/broken/not going to be fixed.
[16:01] * OvenWerks has filed bug reports for all the broken ones and seen them all shoved aside.
[16:02] <zequence> That is why I was working on the categories thing about a year ago
[16:03] <OvenWerks> zequence: my latest thought is back to the workflow applet
[16:03] <OvenWerks> zequence: I agree.
[16:04] <zequence> One should be able to easily find applications by using simple search terms
[16:04] <OvenWerks> a workflow applet that sits in systray would work the same in all DEs
[16:05] <OvenWerks> Finding an app is one thing, knowing what you have is another
[16:05] <zequence> IT's not hard to do that either on any DE
[16:05] <zequence> On Unity it is quite simple to filter all of your applications by using categories
[16:06] <OvenWerks> Almost all DEs now have an app search yes.
[16:06] <zequence> Gnome has simplified by just showing all applications
[16:06] <OvenWerks> Sounds adroidish
[16:06] <zequence> In this respect Gnome is harder
[16:06] <zequence> Yes
[16:07] <OvenWerks> :P
[16:07] <zequence> I'm thinking it is better to show what tools to use for which use by documentation and videos, rather then using DE tools
[16:08] <zequence> All though, I'm quite fond of the idea of a workflow app too
[16:09] <zequence> I'm actually working on -controls right now
[16:09] <zequence> Seems I always do when sitting in a train
[16:09] <OvenWerks> A workflow app is something for the new user mostly... though I would tend to use it as a menu if the DE didn't have one ;)
[16:10] <zequence> I could imagine using a workflow application myself, if it was smart enough
[16:10] <OvenWerks> would you see that as part of a controls app or separate.
[16:11] <zequence> Separate. Controls is just for the core functions
[16:11] <OvenWerks> I personally would see it as two systray apps
[16:11] <OvenWerks> But then I would see controls as two parts: operational and setup
[16:11] <zequence> If it's just for replacing a menu, then it's in my view a menu, be it in the systray or elsewhere
[16:12] <OvenWerks> Making it smarter than just a menu would be nice, but I can't think how right now.
[16:12] <zequence> -controls has a menu for controlling jack and pulse, plus shortcuts for opening other things, like mixers and also "settings"
[16:13] <zequence> The settings application will have a separate starter, but you'll be able to open it from the controls systray menu
[16:13] <zequence> My first version will just be a simple settings application. No systray menu
[16:13] <OvenWerks> Ok that sounds good.
[16:14] <zequence> Right now I've been trying to figure out a good way for analyzing PAM settings
[16:15] <zequence> The idea is the settings application will be able to remove duplicate bad settings from any relevant file
[16:15] <OvenWerks> settings has to be there for adding Studio metas to already installed DEs
[16:18] <zequence> I'm thinking we could add a shortcut for the meta installer in the menu
[16:18] <zequence> I'm going to be using a new group for rt settings. audio is not to be used in the future, so I'll use something like jackuser instead
[16:19] <OvenWerks> zequence: I would like to see jackd run from login as default sound device. have pulse feed jack by default. I have been doing this on bth my Studio machine and my wifes desktop for over a year now
[16:19] <zequence> We could add that to the audio-core meta
[16:19] <OvenWerks> It works well
[16:22] <OvenWerks> Pulse can be turned "off" by unloading the pa-jack bridge. latency can be changed on the fly so at login latency can be long and shortened for lowatency work. I set things up so that pa turns off below certain latencies.
[16:23] <OvenWerks> With using the bridge removal technique, pa switches to dummy sink and all of the desktop apps can still work without hanging, but no sounds of course :)
[16:23] <holstein> i have a general question about that.. what about a user with a USB audio device?
[16:24] <holstein> would it address the labeling? etc? would it "just work" for them?
[16:24] <OvenWerks> My wife uses a USB device, no problem
[16:24] <holstein> i think removing jack from the equation is a good move
[16:24] <OvenWerks> The only place it may be a problem is plugging and unplugging
[16:24] <holstein> having it already running is a nice way to do that.. if it makes it easier..
[16:25] <holstein> OvenWerks: oh.. that makes sense..
[16:25] <OvenWerks> In my opinion a USB audio iF should be plugged in from before boot.
[16:25] <zequence> To get plug and play, someone will need to create a server for restarting jack
[16:26] <OvenWerks> jack does not need to be restarted
[16:26] <zequence> To change IF
[16:26] <holstein> OvenWerks: i like that as well, its just that, its not the "norm" for users coming from other platforms.. not that that need to be a consideration.. its just largely why folks dont adopt
[16:26] <OvenWerks> That can be done with jack_control
[16:27] <holstein> they have something that worked a certain way, and they want the *exact* same work flow, for no $$.. there may be little to do to address that, anyway
[16:27] <OvenWerks> jack_control can change IF without stopping
[16:27] <holstein> jack running from boot is personally something im not interested in, but, if i were just coming to the platform, i would appreciate it, and i think its a great idea
[16:28] <zequence> jackdbus does not stop, but it won't change IF automatically
[16:28] <OvenWerks> holstein: not from boot, from login
[16:28] <zequence> Also, will it crash?
[16:28] <holstein> well, boot, login.. you know what i mean
[16:28] <holstein> for an ubuntustudio user, they likely dont boot without logging in..
[16:28] <OvenWerks> I have changed lots of things with out first stopping jackdbus.
[16:29] <zequence> USB devices are meant to be plug and play, so you can't really blame someone for using them as such
[16:29] <holstein> yeah.. its implied about USB hardware that you can remove them
[16:29] <OvenWerks> Yes, that is true. USB will get plugged in and out.
[16:29] <OvenWerks> same with FW
[16:29] <holstein> but, even if we put that in some documentation, it wouldnt necessarily be noticed, or understood..
[16:30] <OvenWerks> I have switched from alsa to net with no problem though
[16:30] <holstein> could be a detraction.. "dont plug and play your plug and play device".. could be seen as a shortcoming
[16:30] <OvenWerks> internally, I think jackdbus does do a restart.
[16:32] <OvenWerks> PNP can still be done so long as the control app will scan for new devices. We should see how pa does that
[16:37] <OvenWerks> holstein: I agree PnP still has to work, I just haven't taken the time/effort to make it so in my case.
[16:37] <holstein> eh.. i dont know that its something that needs to be considered specifically
[16:37] <holstein> i dont think it should hold up your work, for sure
[16:38] <OvenWerks> jack_control is not well documented, there is no man page and jack_control --help/-h do not work
[16:38] <zequence> would be nice if jack behaved like PA
[16:38] <zequence> But, there is a slight problem with connections
[16:38] <zequence> Going from 8ch to 2ch
[16:39] <OvenWerks> yes.
[16:39] <OvenWerks> As I said, I think when changing back end, jack is restarted internally and so all connections are reset.
[16:41] <OvenWerks> I think also we need to have some sort of kill for it in case it hangs.
[16:42] <OvenWerks> detecting a running jackd and being able to kill that also makes sense. (in my case I have chmod -x jackd)
[16:46] <OvenWerks> I have had to actually kill jackdbus only a few times in the year and a half I have used things this way.
[16:47] * OvenWerks thinks all of them have been with the USB device
[16:54] <OvenWerks> zequence: holstein I would like to disable the pulse alsa module so that pulse just acts as a desktop front end for jack.
[16:55] <holstein> OvenWerks: sounds like a plan..
[17:48] <zequence> OvenWerks: Doing that permanently would be bad, I think
[17:49] <zequence> We need a dbus server of our own, or something else, that can disable/enable start/kill/stop stuff in the way you would want to
[17:49] <zequence> Might actually be best to add all of that into a PA module
[17:49] <zequence> Perhaps the one that already exists. Adding config options for it
[18:05] <OvenWerks> zequence: Sounds like a plan. I hadn't thought of that, but KDE does that already so it is possible and yes the better way to go.
[18:05] <OvenWerks> BTW I posted a quick overview of jack_control in the mail list.
[18:07] <OvenWerks> zequence: for that matter we could incorperate the internals of jack_control into our own app as well. jack_control is a script I think anyway.
[18:08] <zequence> It's a python script for controlling jack through dbus
[18:08] <zequence> I've been using it as an example for a few things
[19:10] <OvenWerks> zequence: I had forgotten there is a pactl (I think... something close) that does for PA what jack_control does for jackdbus. I do not know if it is a script as well or not. But it does seem to control just about everything as well.
[21:23] <zequence> Not a script, and doesn't use dbus. But is similar, I suppose
[21:55] <OvenWerks> zequence: pactl is the one I use to un/load module-jackdbus-detect. Almost everything PA does is as part of a module, so removing a module stops that functionality as well. The problem is there is by default an autoloader, so removing a module may see it just reload.
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[04:35] <mup> Bug #1421258 changed: juju deploy fails to deploy ceilometer-agent - Output: ERROR connection is shutdown <deploy> <oil> <oil-bug-1372407> <juju-core:Expired> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1421258>
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2015-04-25-#ubuntu-touch
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[00:46] <dobey> Azelphur: sure. you should create a chroot of ubuntu to instally any such packages like that. running x86 code under qemu on arm would be excruciatingly slow though
[00:47] <Azelphur> dobey, hopefully fast enough, I just wanna play FTL :P
[00:47] <dobey> i doubt it will be fast enough :)
[00:47] <Azelphur> really? have you seen FTL? It's not exactly crysis
[00:48] <Azelphur> but that's interesting what you mentioned, can you create a full Ubuntu install inside Ubuntu touch but running natively on ARM? that'd be extremely useful to me
[00:48] <dobey> Azelphur: eh, i have 10+ year old games that are even slow on my i7 with 16GB of RAM
[00:48] <dobey> sure, you can create a chroot of ubuntu, but it's not quite the same as running an ISO of ubuntu
[00:49] <Azelphur> dobey, any docs for that?
[00:49] <Azelphur> dobey, also, FTL is essentially a spreadsheet... http://cdn.akamai.steamstatic.com/steam/apps/212680/ss_052d698926073e8d407a864f0e63a486af24ec0d.600x338.jpg?t=1416970361
[00:50] <dobey> the interaction model isn't what makes it fast or slow
[00:51] <dobey> converting floating point x86 operations to run on top of arm is going to be slow. heck, even running the ubuntu phone image in the emulator on my i7 is slow :)
[00:52] <dobey> and that's running i386 on top of amd64
[00:54] <dobey> i'm sure FTL uses some GL operations that the phone hardware might not support as well, so it might not even run. and i presume you acquired it via steam, which means it will probably need steam running as well
[03:30] <Azelphur> dobey, actually doesn't require steam, despite being acquired through steam it's drm free
[03:30] <Azelphur> but yea, I've been wanting to get something x86 that has the size/battery life of my Nexus 7 for exactly these reasons, I'd love something ~7" that runs a full nix disto properly
[06:56] <EdwardMorbius> morning, anyone knows if wifi tethering/hotspot planned for UT?
[06:59] <EdwardMorbius> everyone asleep it seems :)
[07:45] <nhaines> EdwardMorbius: You'll generaly have better luck during the workweek and during European business hours. :)
[07:46] <nhaines> But as it turns out, yes, tethering and hotspot are on the roadmap. There's some terminal command you can use to enable tethering, I think. But once it's all working well it'll end up in System Settings somewhere.
[07:46] <EdwardMorbius> nhaines thanks, is that planned for 15.04?
[08:31] <dadexix86> Hello, I have some huge problems with the synced contacts from Google. Some of them are not correctly synced. Some show one or more phone numbers but some show nothing (and I don't see any pattern in why this some yes/some no). is it a known bug?
[08:35] <dadexix86> this is a problem because when someone calls me and this random "wrong sync" occured on her/his number I do not see the name
[08:40] <EdwardMorbius> try deleting the account and readding it, I dont have such issues on my bq.
[08:42] <dadexix86> EdwardMorbius, done already. the same contacts have the same problem
[08:43] <dadexix86> mh... I may have found the "ratio". some of the wrong synced are merged from other contacts
[08:43] <dadexix86> merged on android but not on the google website
[08:43] <EdwardMorbius> then maybe you should edit your contacts on google and try again
[08:44] <dadexix86> if I merge them again then they are synced correctly
[08:44] <dadexix86> but the synced photos are now messed up, some are from the first contact, some from the second
[08:45] <dadexix86> I edit them on google website and try again
[08:47] <EdwardMorbius> okay
[08:56] <dadexix86> ok, manipulating them from google website solved the problem :)
[08:56] <dadexix86> do you know if there is a way to see the email of the contacts?
[09:07] <EdwardMorbius> you mean on the phone on the contact profile?
[09:08] <dadexix86> EdwardMorbius, yes on the phone. In the contact profile or anywhere else :)
[09:08] <EdwardMorbius> contacts-tap the contact then tap the icon on the right-it will open up contact details-there in the upper right corner there is a pencil like icon
[09:09] <EdwardMorbius> tap that and you will be able to see more details and "Add Field" for email
[09:09] <dadexix86> uuuuh! the icon on the right! that was definitely counter-intuitive for me! :)
[09:10] <dadexix86> I was tapping the photo, the name, long tapping, swiping... but the icon on the right was out of my mind :P
[09:10] <EdwardMorbius> on Ubuntu Touch most such settings are on top right icon so you can keep that in mind ;) :)
[09:12] <dadexix86> yeah, I went in the top right also ;) I was hoping for a "Contact Details" label there :P
[09:13] <dadexix86> but that icon is not top right, it's just "right" :)
[09:18] <EdwardMorbius> well its sorted out now so its good :)
[10:59] <sturmflut_> popey, Elleo, mzanetti: If you have the time it would be nice if you had a look at http://sturmflut.github.io/ubuntu/touch/2015/04/24/ubuntu-touch-app-wishlist-april-2015/ again
[11:06] <popey> sturmflut_: i was looking at it just yesterday with Robert Ancell :)
[11:06] <popey> oh, this is a new list?
[11:07] <sturmflut_> popey: Yes, new and updated and now with even more lasers
[11:07] <sturmflut_> (lasers not included)
[11:07] <popey> \o/ lasers
[11:10] <sturmflut_> popey: Basically I went through a couple of Android magazines, looked at their app recommendations and completed my list
[11:12] <peat-psuwit> Do you have any tip for compiling gst-plugins-bad1.0?
[11:12] <peat-psuwit> It says it cannot find mir_toolkit/mir_c
[11:13] <peat-psuwit> lient_library.h
[11:14] <sturmflut_> peat-psuwit: Sorry, no
[11:17] <popey> sturmflut_: what would also be neat is a list of (or sub-list) of suggested scopes
[11:17] <popey> like, online services which have known well-documented APIs
[11:17] <popey> which people could create scopes for
[11:17] <sturmflut_> popey: Oh, that is true. I'll think of something.
[11:35] <BOHverkill> sturmflut_: nice list :)
[11:37] * DanChapman is considering a simple scope to show the last 20-30 emails received in dekko. And let someone else aggregate that into a cool scope view
[11:37] <popey> oooh!
[11:43] <sturmflut_> BOHverkill: Thanks! It was quite a lot of work.
[11:48] <BOHverkill> sturmflut_: is this only your list or can I give you hints for missing apps?
[12:42] <sturmflut_> BOHverkill: Even better, you can clone https://github.com/Sturmflut/sturmflut.github.io, make changes to the article and send me a pull request ;)
[12:42] <BOHverkill> sturmflut_: k thx
[12:52] <sturmflut_> mandel: tvoss just changed "Affects" from location-service to qtubuntu-sensors in bug 1448180. I pulled the code and I think I see the problem, only core::GeoPositionInfoSource was implemented, but core::GeoSatelliteInfoSource wasn't, right?
[13:15] <mzanetti> anyone has a hint on how to best connect the ubuntu phone to OSX? (mainly for music & pictures)
[13:16] <popey> mzanetti: http://apple.stackexchange.com/questions/106156/does-mavericks-support-mtp
[13:16] <popey> needs an app
[13:16] <mzanetti> yeah... obviously there's plenty of choice. hoped someone would tell me some app that is known to work
[13:21] <popey> ahh
[13:27] <mzanetti> ok. Android File Transfer for OSX seems to work fine with the Ubuntu Phone
[13:29] <popey> yay
[13:30] <mzanetti> the robot is a bit "in your face" though :D Would prefer an Ubuntu logo in there
[13:46] <nick_> hi
[13:47] <Guest49411> i got a question about the ubuntu phone update cycle
[13:48] <Guest49411> is ubuntu phone just some sort of GUI with the same ubuntu underneath?
[13:48] <Guest49411> like ubuntu desktop
[13:49] <popey> kinda
[13:53] <Guest49411> cool. so if i buy the available ubuntu phone and it is buggy, i get free fixes und OS updates just like on ubuntu desktop?
[13:53] <Guest49411> like... forever?
[13:53] <popey> thats the plan
[13:53] <Guest49411> that sound awesome. i hate it that android phone run out of updates. thats just marketing
[13:54] <Guest49411> this should just suggest your phone is too old. but the developer make it look old
[13:55] <Guest49411> i dont think thats the right way :)
[13:56] <Guest49411> thanks for helping me out!
[13:57] <popey> np
[14:23] <sturmflut|afk> mzanetti, popey: So Apple stuff doesn't support MTP out of the box?
[14:24] <mzanetti> sturmflut|afk, no
[15:01] <ilario> Hi! Maybe a bug in messaging-app, I didn't find it in the reported bug list: when I receive a SMS from my mobile operator (sender: "Orange") the messaging app doesn't show me the message. Here you are: from the homepage of the app I can see something https://i.imgur.com/Z2srX2A.png but then there's nothing in the conversation https://i.imgur.com/OZXoeQS.png . Should I report this bug? Someone experienced something like this?
[15:44] <sturmflut> ilario: Looks like a bug you should report
[15:44] <ilario> ok :)
[16:13] <ilario> reported here :) https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/messaging-app/+bug/1448492
[16:29] <dadexix86> hello! does anyone know of a countdown app?
[16:30] <dadexix86> obviously with an alarm when the time reaches zero
[16:43] <Dogsbody> In there any way to install Ubuntu Touch on an old Nexus 7 (2012) or is it completely depreciated now?
[16:43] <Dogsbody> I've tried a number of things all day but not gotten anywhere :-/
[17:01] <sturmflut> dadexix86: Hmmm, the standard "Clock" app had a timer, but I can't find it as well
[17:02] <sturmflut> dadexix86: It still says "A sophisticated clock app that provides timer, stopwatch, alarm and world clock functionality."
[17:10] <dadexix86> sturmflut, yes indeed, but I cannot find it :P
[17:10] <sturmflut> strange
[17:19] <dadexix86> probably it was removed at some point but no one changed the description.
[17:20] <sturmflut> dadexix86: Ah, there was a redesign once, the Clock App Reboot
[17:26] <sturmflut> Is there any documentation on how to manually cross-rebuild a package inside a chroot?
[17:34] <ilario> hi! I have the BQ Aquaris with the Ubuntu edition cover (this cover: https://static-bqreaders.s3.amazonaws.com/img/web/productView/aquaris-e4-5-ubuntu/accesorios/02_500.jpg ) and I would like to have the clock in the center of the welcome screen (lock screen) instead of on the top, so I can read the time without opening the cover. In my opinion this should be toggled by the option "Security&Privacy > Stats on welcome screen" that
[17:34] <ilario> actually leaves in the circle a non useful message "No data sources available".
[17:37] <dadexix86> ilario, I already submitted something similar bug 1446654
[17:37] <dadexix86> please say that it affects also yourself, so maybe some develor will have a look at it eventually :)
[17:37] <dadexix86> *developer
[17:39] <ilario> +1 :D
[17:43] <dadexix86> ilario, thanks!
[17:43] <dadexix86> have a nice evening!
[17:43] <ilario> thanks to you :)
[18:02] <ilario> for reporting a bug on telegram app: which is the name of the package? I can't find it...
[18:09] <cwayne> ilario, https://launchpad.net/libqtelegram
[18:11] <ilario> cwayne, thanks, but when I issue "apport-bug libqtelegram" on the phone I obtain "The problem cannot be reported: The report belongs to a package that is not installed."
[18:12] <cwayne> ilario, it's not a deb package, but a click package
[18:12] <cwayne> so apport-bug won't do it
[18:12] <ilario> wut... ok
[18:13] <cwayne> ilario, you'll have to log it the old fashioned way :) https://bugs.launchpad.net/libqtelegram/+filebug
[18:13] <ilario> ok :)
[19:43] <sturmflut> Any ideas on ubuntu-device-flash exiting with "Failed to enter Recovery", bug 1427359?
[19:45] <sturmflut> I made the system image writeable and now can't go back
[21:37] <cwayne_> mardy_, you around?
[22:27] <neon_squirrel> Is there any word on Ubuntu Phone for the Nexus 6, or is there a way to run full Ubuntu on it because it's an ARM processor?
[22:28] <beuno> neon_squirrel, Ubuntu Phone runs on arm
[22:28] <beuno> the BQ device is arm
[22:28] <beuno> however, there is no official port, nor is there one planned
[22:29] <k1l> ubuntu-desktop can run on arm.
[22:29] <neon_squirrel> beuno, That sucks...I was hoping for at least a community port. Why the discrepancy between the Nexus 5 and 6?
[22:29] <beuno> neon_squirrel, there is no official port for Nexus 5 either :)
[22:30] <k1l> but you dont want to use a "regular desktop" on a smartphone-display with touch. its just hell to click on all the stuff and not having a right click
[22:30] <beuno> neon_squirrel, there is no official port for Nexus 5 either :)
[22:30] <beuno> we use Nexus 4 as a common device, and now also the BQ device
[22:30] <neon_squirrel> nlh4327admin
[22:30] <beuno> we won't aim to support devices ourselves, but rather support devices that will ship Ubuntu pre-installed
[22:31] <beuno> the rest will be in the hands of the community
[22:31] <k1l> there is a community port for nexus5 iirc. but there was something about the nexus6. i think its just to expensive for the regular guys who do the porting.
[22:31] <beuno> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/Devices
[22:32] <neon_squirrel> k1l, If I can run desktop on an ARM, e.g. my Nexus 6, what image do I use? I found the links for ARM for server, but I don't know if that's the right link.
[22:32] <beuno> neon_squirrel, it's all about the drivers
[22:32] <k1l> neon_squirrel: there is no "one iso" for arm. we dont have generic drivers for ARM stuff like we do have on the desktop
[22:32] <beuno> they won't generally be available, or in the kernel
[22:33] <beuno> *vanilla kernel
[22:33] <k1l> so the ARM.iso for nexus6 will not run on the samsung galaxy s6. so you need to make a iso for every device.
[22:34] <neon_squirrel> k1l, that sounds way more complicated than I want to get, haha. I'll stick with flashing CM, I think :D
[22:35] <k1l> neon_squirrel: see the wiki linked or on xda if someone did a port with ubuntu-touch already.
[22:35] <neon_squirrel> I'll take a look.
[22:36] <k1l> but believe me, you dont want a regular desktop os like (ubuntu desktop) on your smartphone, because they are not optimized for touch and that small displays.
[22:38] <neon_squirrel> Yeah, I did the VNC/dual boot Debian thing once on a Kindle Fire. Huge pain in the ass.
[22:38] <neon_squirrel> http://forum.xda-developers.com/google-nexus-5/general/how-to-install-ubuntu-touch-primary-rom-t2911502
[22:38] <neon_squirrel> This is in the Nexus 5 thread, but if it works on Lollipop with the Nexus 5, is there a reason it won't work with the 6? Drivers, I assume.
[22:40] <k1l> yep
[22:41] <neon_squirrel> Damn. Oh well :) I'll stick with CM. Thanks, guys. I can also forsee problems with installing those programs on Arch :)
[22:43] <cwayne_> nexus6 is also android 5, while the ports use 4.4 still
[23:36] <spok> Can I use voip with Ubuntu touch?
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2024-05-13T22:11:08.987980
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2015-04-25-#ubuntu-ko
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[01:32] <razGon_Xch2> http://prod.danawa.com/info/?pcode=2696705&cate1=860&cate2=869&cate3=31883&cate4=0#bookmark_cm_opinion
[01:32] <razGon_Xch2> 이거 어떤지요?
[01:41] <Work^Seony> 아직도 결정 못하셨나보네요 ㅎㅎ
[01:54] <razGon_Xch2> 애들은 나중에 사주기로 하고 장모님.
[02:00] <LinDol> 굿묘닝~.~
[02:59] <TaeheeJang> 네 지금 토요일 입니다! 세미나 준비 중입니다 ㅎㅎ
[03:29] <AutoWiZ_znc> 아 오늘 오프라인 모임이네요
[03:30] <AutoWiZ_znc> ㅠㅠ 꼭 월말되면 바빠서 정신없이 지나가네요
[04:45] <HolyKnight> ㄷㄷ
[04:58] <lindol> 오오
[04:58] <lindol> 15.04 굉장이 빠릿 빠릿하네요 :)
[05:00] <HolyKnight> 그래유?
[05:00] <HolyKnight> Gui?
[05:01] <lindol> 네네 저는 Ubuntu GNOME 15.04로 설치했어요.
[05:02] <HolyKnight> 아하
[05:02] <HolyKnight> 그러면 서버 우분투도 업그러이드
[05:02] <HolyKnight> 가능알까유
[05:24] <lindol> 서버는 잘 모르겠어요 ㅋㅋ
[05:39] <AutoWiZ_znc> 와 15.04 도 나올날이 얼마 안남았네요
[05:47] <monos> AutoWiZ_znc: 님 15.04 나왔던데요
[05:48] <AutoWiZ_znc> 아 그러고보니 4월 말이네요 벌써... 안녕하세요 monos 님
[05:48] <lindol> 안녕하세요 :)
[05:48] <monos> 안녕하세요
[05:53] <monos> AutoWiZ_znc: 님 저번에 가르쳐 주신 그림 그릴수 있는 사이트 이름이나 주소좀 가르쳐주세요
[07:35] <PotatoGim> 안녕하세요~~
[07:50] <HolyKnight> ㅎㅇㅇ
[08:08] <ipeter> 반갑습니다.
[08:08] <ipeter> 오랫만에 뵙네요.
[14:20] <HolyKnight> @kangbaeklee: 성완종 자살사건은 기이하다. 첫째 대통령의 전 현 비서실장 3인 등 돈 받은 사람들은 검찰 근처에도 가지 않고 고인의 측근들만 불려가 곤욕을 당하고 있다. 둘째 검은 돈을 주고 받은 부정부패 사건이 갑자기 '누가 성완종을 사면했나'의 문제로 변질되었다
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"monos",
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2015-04-25-#ubuntu-release
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[01:31] <ScottK> wgrant, cjwatson, somebody: Rejected: clamav 0.98.6+dfsg-1ubuntu3 in vivid (Cannot copy DDEBs to a primary archive) - that makes releasing an SRU kind of tough
[01:31] <ScottK> Oh, I think I get it.
[01:32] <ScottK> It's still copying to the release pocket, not -updates
[01:40] <ScottK> Well no, same error using copy-package to updates.
[01:40] <ScottK> Sigh.
[01:40] <cjwatson> 19:33 <wgrant> We can fix the clamav situation by either a) reuploading it, b) fixing pkg-create-dbgsym before SRU verification completes, c) removing the primary archive ddebs check since it's obsolete now that publish_debug_symbols is a disableable thing.
[01:41] <cjwatson> (I'm sure wgrant won't mind me leaking that)
[01:42] <cjwatson> Basically we turned on new-style ddebs and then had to revert because that broke gcc; unfortunately clamav was a temporary casualty of this. If you can wait until Monday-ish then I believe William was intending to do c) then. Otherwise do a).
[02:18] <ScottK> cjwatson: We're getting a fairly high rate of bug reports over this. I guess I'll go a.
[02:18] <ScottK> Thanks.
[02:21] <cjwatson> ScottK: Thanks. Sorry for the inconvenience.
[02:21] <cjwatson> Too much to hope that it would all go smoothly after all the planning ...
[02:22] <ScottK> Well the other frustrating part is we knew about this bug but thought almost no one would hit is, so didn't push uploading a fix.
[02:22] <ScottK> Clearly that analysis was in error.
[02:51] <ScottK> OK. Released again. Let's see how that goes.
[03:02] <ScottK> Seems like that worked.
[03:02] <ScottK> Thanks cjwatson and wgrant.
[08:29] <wgrant> ScottK: Sorry, meant to copy what Colin quoted here but got distracted by another crisis. I'll indeed be implementing c) on Monday, but clamav was the only package hit.
[15:18] <ScottK> wgrant: At least we got it sorted. Thanks.
[20:40] <wxl> hey we going to turn dailies back on?
[20:47] <infinity> wxl: Doesn't make much sense to do so until w-series is open.
[22:42] <Logan> and/or named
[23:33] <wxl> infinity: oh. that makes sense then :)
[23:33] <Ukikie> Also, the name issue.
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2015-04-25-#lubuntu
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[01:34] <SuperLag> Should do-release-upgrade show a new distro yet?
[01:35] <Unit193> What version are you on?
[01:35] <SuperLag> 14.04
[01:37] <Unit193> You'll have to change it to look for normal releases, then upgrade from that to utopic, then vivid.
[01:37] <Unit193> /etc/update-manager/release-upgrades
[01:40] <Ahmuck> anybody missing power system tray managment icon?
[01:40] <SuperLag> ugh
[01:41] <SuperLag> have to step the upgrades? Can't go from 14.04 to 15.04?
[01:43] <Unit193> SuperLag: You'll be able to go from 14.04 to 16.04.
[05:40] <Kamilion> Ahmuck: yes
[06:45] <Ahmuck> Kamilion, ping
[06:45] <Kamilion> pong
[06:47] <Kamilion> Missing icon is known issue; last i heard, "will be fixed after release".
[06:55] <Ahmuck> *groan*
[06:56] <Ahmuck> lubuntu used to be stable before it became "official"
[12:13] <cheche> Is there any lubuntu theme with the windows close button on red?
[12:14] <cheche> I am trying to install for my users so lubuntu looks similar to windows
[14:10] <Novice201y> Hi. I'm not able to use Log Out button (inside Start menu) and Turn Off icon in lower right corner. What can I do with this?
[14:12] <wxl> cheche: did you try looking at boxlook.org?
[14:12] <wxl> cheche: that's where i'd start but honestly i have no idea
[14:12] <wxl> Novice201y: what version?
[14:12] <Novice201y> 15.04
[14:12] <Novice201y> wxl:
[14:12] <wxl> Novice201y: is this a fresh install?
[14:13] <Novice201y> wxl: No, it was installed as 14.10 Unity at first.
[14:13] <wxl> Novice201y: oh, so you've installed lubuntu-desktop within your ubuntu install then?
[14:14] <Novice201y> wxl: Yes
[14:14] <wxl> Novice201y: are you aiming for a pure lxde desktop environment?
[14:15] <Novice201y> wxl: What You mean by aiming?
[14:15] <wxl> Novice201y: is there a reason you still want unity?
[14:15] <Novice201y> Novice201y: I'm not the only one using this PC, so I think - yes.
[14:16] <wxl> Novice201y: look at you mentioning yourself ;)
[14:16] <wxl> !purelxde | try this, Novice201y
[14:16] <wxl> if that doesn't fix it, head back over here and we'll try to help you out
[14:17] <Novice201y> wxl: But maybe is there another way to activate this button without touching 3rd parties?
[14:18] <wxl> Novice201y: perhaps there is but the more complex the system, the harder it is to diagnose
[14:18] <wxl> Novice201y: currently there is no official testing of lubuntu-desktop within a typical ubuntu. for that matter, no other flavor does that, either
[14:18] <Novice201y> wxl: Maybe there is the way to simulate this buttons actions in terminal and check what will be the response?
[14:19] <Novice201y> wxl: So, it's "nice" to hear it now ;)
[14:19] <wxl> Novice201y: i know, i know
[14:19] <wxl> Novice201y: i can diagnose lxde issues but unity is a whole different world to me :)
[14:20] <Novice201y> wxl: But it's LXDE that doesn't work here. Unity is fine.
[14:21] <wxl> Novice201y: i know, but they're not totally separate. open jup lxsession-default-apps and under core applications, what is your quit manager?
[14:24] <Novice201y> wxl: I prefer to do what is listed on this site from psycho cats.
[14:24] <wxl> Novice201y: heh, ok. well, your quit manager should be lxsession-logout. if it's not you might want to set it as such. that should fix you up. you can similate the action by running it in terminal.
[14:24] <Novice201y> wxl: Thank You.
[14:25] <wxl> Novice201y: np
[16:57] <cheche> wxl: yes I did have a look on boxlook.org. But none of the themes have the window close button with red colour. I
[16:58] <cheche> Funny 3 hours ago someone publish a windows theme http://box-look.org/content/show.php/Windows+Classic?content=169812
[16:59] <cheche> I though that maybe is a poblem with openbox that does not allow ir.
[17:27] <ianorlin> cheche: I also have had trouble finding a pink titlebar one that is light enough
[18:49] <Steven-> My sound works, but trying to control volume with amixer it will only lists IEC958 (S/PDIF) when I use 'amixer scontrols' -- Any ideas where I might go to get amixer to see my sound device?
[18:50] <ianorlin> Steven-: what happens when you use alsamixer?
[18:50] <Steven-> i can select the card thre
[18:50] <Steven-> but I need to control the volume via a command for my Fn keys
[18:51] <ianorlin> ah so you are trying to keybind it
[18:51] <Steven-> yup
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2015-04-25-#ubuntu-pl
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[00:28] <m477> t
[02:03] <Ashiren> happy Caturday
[02:04] <Ashiren> :3 https://i.imgur.com/C2EeHVQ.jpg
[07:23] <Ashiren> :3 http://img-9gag-fun.9cache.com/photo/anKGQA0_460sv.mp4
[08:14] <Ashiren> :3 https://i.chzbgr.com/imagestore/2015/4/16/4617d7d2-ad08-4b2e-a24f-9a8363850fba.jpg
[09:10] <drathir> bry...
[09:12] <lisu> siemka
[16:34] <Ashiren> :3 http://img-9gag-fun.9cache.com/photo/aqNYwqj_460s.jpg
[18:03] <Ashiren> :3 https://i.imgur.com/hhR7nJW.jpg
[20:16] <Ashiren> 3: https://i.chzbgr.com/maxW500/5203903488/h04FB2B5A/
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2024-05-13T22:11:09.021174
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"Ashiren",
"drathir",
"lisu",
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2015-04-25-#ubuntu-tr
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[19:22] <maji_> selamlar
[19:22] <maji_> arkadaşlar bu linuxu çok kullanmadım
[19:23] <maji_> şimdi yine virtualbox üzerinden bi kurdum
[19:23] <maji_> bakiorum
[19:23] <maji_> win tabanlı programları çalıştırmak için win die bir program var ancak exe dosyamda işe yaramıyor
[19:23] <maji_> daha farklı metotlar var mıdır
[19:23] <maji_> exe programlarını kurmak içinj
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"maji_"
],
"url": "https://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2015/04/25/%23ubuntu-tr.txt",
"channel": "#ubuntu-tr"
}
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2015-04-25-#lubuntu-devel
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[01:07] <ianorlin> ouch http://www.jupiterbroadcasting.com/81112/a-comcastic-collapse-tech-talk-today-163/
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ubuntu-chat
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2024-05-13T22:11:09.026033
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"ianorlin"
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2015-04-25-#ubuntu+1
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[07:32] <lordievader> Good morning.
[10:56] <BluesKaj> Hey folks
[10:57] <penguin42> Hey BK
[10:58] <penguin42> hmm, doesn't that title need updating ?
[12:51] <BluesKaj> hey penguin42, yeah, and there is no ubuntu dev OS either :)
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ubuntu-chat
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2024-05-13T22:11:09.027098
| 2015-04-25T00:00:00 |
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"BluesKaj",
"lordievader",
"penguin42"
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"channel": "#ubuntu+1"
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2015-04-25-#ubuntu-fi
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[08:51] <Hejkki> mistähän alkaisin selvittämään vista-koneen kaatumisen syyn? Ei pelitä ubuntullakaan pitkään. Aattelin jos saa toimiin niin teen tosta kotipilvipalvelimen
[08:51] <Hejkki> eli vista kaatuu siniseen ruutuun ja ubuntu vaan jumittaa
[08:52] <Hejkki> kun hetken ollu käynnissä
[08:53] <Hejkki> ei uskaltais mitään prosessoriakaan ostaa uutta ihan summassa jos ei olekaan siinä vikaa
[08:53] <Echramath> Ajoitko muistitestiä?
[08:54] <Hejkki> siinä oli joku oliko se biosissa tms valmis testi, joka näytti ettei missään vikaa
[08:54] <Hejkki> en ole ubuntun levyllä oleveaa memtestiä vielä ajanut
[08:54] <Hejkki> mut se biosin teki jonku muistitestin pikasesti
[08:54] <Echramath> Aja sit vaikka useampi tunti
[08:54] <Echramath> Se ei tosin sitten automaattisesti meinaa, että vika on nimenomaan muistipiireissä
[08:55] <Hejkki> mut eihän memtestikään kaikkea kerro jos se jää jumiin niin missä sit vika
[08:55] <Hejkki> nii
[08:55] <Echramath> Joskus tuli vastaan sellainen kone, joka leikkasi kiinni tasan samalla hetkellä joka testissä
[08:55] <Echramath> Selvisi että kiintolevy on mätä
[09:04] <Hejkki> joo, jos irrottais kiintolevyn ja dvd:ltä ajais memtestin ->
[10:03] <Hejkki> polttelen uutta 15.04 ubuntun levyä ensin
[10:04] <Hejkki> eikös tuo memtest toimi vaikka olisi vain esim 512 MB muistia?
[10:04] <Hejkki> meinaan vaan että jos nypin muistikammat pois ja yks kerrallaan testaan
[10:07] <Hejkki> eikö tuossa olekaan memtestiä enää 15.04:n levyssä
[10:34] <Mikaela> kyllä siellä pitäisi olla
[10:34] <Mikaela> käynnistyessä kun tulee näkyviin se näppäimistön kuva painaa jotakin näppäintä ja sen pitäisi tarjota ne vanhat vaihtoehdot tai ainakin Ubuntu MATE tekee niin
[10:48] <Hejkki> ok jo oen oo sitä näppiksenkuvaa koskaan noteerannut sen enempää, ihaillut vaan sitä :D
[10:48] <Hejkki> taisiis en aatellu mikä se on
[10:48] <Hejkki> mut joo
[10:48] <Hejkki> 4 kampaa sisässä antaa muistivirheenb, tulee luettaessa eriä kuin kirjoitettaessa
[10:48] <Hejkki> suht nopsaa, kylmästä käynnistettäessä 2min
[10:49] <Hejkki> mut jokanen muisti erikseen ei anna mitään virhettä
[10:49] <Hejkki> kai se pitää pitempään ajaa tota testiä sitten
[10:49] <Hejkki> voiko vika olla muistipaikassa, että ei välttis kammassa
[10:53] <Echramath> Voi oilla
[16:13] <Mirv> joo mulla oli kerran muistipaikka, ei kampa
[16:13] <Mirv> mut eiköhän se muistikampa ole yleisempi
[16:14] <Tekno_> saaks jostai lubuntun semmose tikkuimagen
[16:14] <Tekno_> mikä saletisti toimii
[16:14] <Tekno_> asennust varte
[16:18] <Mikaela> kaikkien Ubuntun ja rinnakkaisversioiden imageiden pitäisi toimia sekä levyllä, että tikulla
[16:20] <Mikaela> Kaipailet kai http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/lubuntu/releases/15.04/release/ tai LTS http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/lubuntu/releases/14.04.2/release/
[16:20] <Mirv> tikulle kirjottaminen voi olla se hankala kohta
[16:22] <Mirv> Ubuntun oma usb creator toimii (nyt) jos luodaan samaa tai vanhemman ubuntun levykuvaa. sit Lubuntu on viel luotu eri tavalla ja Lubuntu itse tais suositella unetbootinia jota taas muuten ei kannata käyttää (rikkoo esim efi-tuen)
[16:23] <Mirv> netti on täynnä vanhentuneita ohjeita yms, mutta flavorin omilta sivuilta paras tieto
[16:28] <Mikaela> minä menen aina dd-tavalla
[16:30] <Mirv> viimeksi kun kokeilin dd:tä tulos ei toiminut. pitäisi varmaan testata systemaattisemmin.
[16:32] <Mikaela> ajoitko "sync"in sen jälkeen?
[16:34] <Mirv> joo mielestäni mistään sellaisesta ei ollut kyse. pitää tutkia joskus.
[17:42] <ninnnu_> mä oon harrastanu ihan usb-creatoria
[18:07] <puhuri> itsellä ei ole vähään aikaan tullut vastaan tikkua, joka ei (dd:llä tai usb-creatorilla) toiminut
[18:08] <puhuri> aikanaan tuli enemmänkin, että joku tikku ei vain toiminut jossain koneessa. Sama image samlla tapaa toisella tikulla toimi
[18:27] <Tekno_> kokeilen tollast ku LiLi Usb creator
[18:50] <Mikaela> !usb
[18:50] <lubotu3`> For information about installing Ubuntu from USB flash drives, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/FromUSBStick - For a persistent live USB install, see: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LiveUsbPendrivePersistent
[18:51] <Mikaela> tämä ilmeisesti on sitä mieltä, että usb-creator tai unetbootin tai dd ja kahta muuta en tunne. Windows tarjoaa Linux Live USB Creatoria, Unetbootinia, Win32Diskimageria (jota minä olen käyttänyt) ja tuo neljäs ei taas sano mitään
[18:56] <Tekno_> miten mä saan asetukset säilymään?
[18:56] <Tekno_> mul o siis tikul nyt linux
[18:57] <Tekno_> mut jos asennan vaikka ff:ään pluginin ni sitä ei oo enää rebootin jälkee
[18:57] <Tekno_> ja näppis layout on joku saksalaine taas
[18:58] <Tekno_> eli mikään ei säily, miks ei
[18:59] <Mikaela> tuo toinen linkki lubotu3`lta, minä valitsisin vaihtoehdon yksi eli asentaisin normaalisti, mutta edistyneessä osioinnissa laittaisin kaiken tikulle ja laittaisin käynnistyslataajan tikulle
[18:59] <Mikaela> normaalisti dd:llä tai millä tahansa laitatkaan se on normaali cd-levy tai mikälie, joka vain ladataan muistin ja sitten kaikki katoaa sammutettaessa
[19:00] <Tekno_> eli mitä mä nyt teen
[19:00] <Tekno_> haluun tollase jutun et asetukset säilyy
[19:05] <Mikaela> jos sinua ei haittaa ettet pysty asentamaan silä, sanoisin että laitat jolekin toiselle tikulle tai levylle Ubuntun ja asennat sen siltä tikulle asentaien grubin/käynnistyslataajan tikulle
[19:05] <Mikaela> siellä usb-creatorissa saattoi myös olla jokin näppäin pysyville asetuksilla
[19:05] <Mikaela> anteeksi, että olen poissaoleva tai sekava, ongelmia ihmisten kanssa
[19:05] <Tekno_> no tein sillä persistent jutun
[19:05] <Tekno_> mut silti mikää ei säilyny
[19:05] <Tekno_> boottivalikos on sitte myös se persistent
[19:05] <Tekno_> ei tosin oletusvaihtoehto
[19:05] <Mikaela> ymmärtääkseni sitten asetusten *pitäisi* säilyä
[19:05] <Mikaela> kokeilitko sillä?
[19:06] <Tekno_> joo
[19:06] <Tekno_> ei säilyny
[19:06] <Tekno_> roskiin koko kone perkele
[19:07] <Tekno_> vai onks jotai mitä vois viel yrittää
[19:07] <Tekno_> ei o kiintolevyy konees eikä siihen saa uutta kovin helpoo
[19:07] <Tekno_> ainoo on käyttää tikkuja
[19:08] <Mikaela> minulla on sama ongelma täällä yhdellä koneella, BIOS ei osaa käynnistää kiintolevyltä, koska sillä on GPT ja koska kone on vuodelta 2006 niin eihän sille myydä adaptereita tai uusia kiintolevyjä. nyt siinä on kiiinni ulkoinen kiintolevy johon on asennettu käyttöjärjestelmä
[19:09] <Mikaela> ja äiti osti minikannettavan käytettynä ja siinäkin on sisäinen kiintolevy entinen joten se toimii nyt samalla tavalla vaikeasti.
[19:10] <Mikaela> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/usb-creator/+bug/550609
[19:10] <lubotu3`> Ubuntu bug 550609 in usb-creator (Ubuntu) "ubuntu 10.04 beta1 - usb startup disk not persistent" [Undecided,Confirmed]
[19:11] <Mikaela> usb-levy ei ole pysyvä, rkokeiltu Ubuntu 10.04 beta1:ll, vaikuttaa ainakin 6:teen käyttäjään ja on vahvistettu. ilmoitettu 2010-03-29 ja viimeisin kommentti vaikuttaisi olevan 2010
[19:12] <Mikaela> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/usb-creator/+bug/375853 vaikuttaisi olevan sama ongelma
[19:12] <lubotu3`> Ubuntu bug 375853 in usb-creator (Ubuntu) "Persistence option has no effect in 9.04" [Undecided,Confirmed]
[19:14] <Mikaela> lukeekohan kukaan noita tuon pketin bugeja, minä näen useitakin duplicaatteja eri bugeille, mutta kukaan ei ole merkinnyt niitä duplicaateiksi. en tosin uskalla itse alkaa painelemaan noita näppäimiä
[19:24] <Tekno_> koitan ny asentaa muistikortille
[19:24] <Tekno_> usb-tikulta
[19:24] <Tekno_> semmose normiasennukse
[19:24] <Tekno_> miten lie toimii
[19:24] <Tekno_> ku se on kuitenki poistettavis oleva kortti
[19:25] <Mikaela> Tekno_: millä käyttöjärjestelmällä ja versiolla yrität muuten tehdä tuota tikkua ja mikä käyttöjärjestelmä ja versio sillä tikulla on?
[19:25] <Mikaela> Sain sellaisen käsityksen, että tikulla olisi ainakin Lubuntu 15.04. Kysyn, koska ihmettelen toisalla miten launcpadia käytetään ja jos tulen merkitsemään noita bugeja duplikaateiksi ja lisäisin kommentin, että sinulle on sattunut näin ellet itse mene sinne kommentoimaan
[19:25] <Mikaela> muistikortille asennettaessa pitää vain muistaa se edistynyt asennus ja asenna käynnistyslataaja muistikortille
[19:26] <Mikaela> (toisaalla on muuten #ubuntu-women ja minua on pidemmän aikaa hämmentänt launchpadin bugienseuranta ja jos joku siellä nyt avaisi sitä vähän)
[19:26] <Tekno_> lubuntu joo
[19:26] <Tekno_> on tikulla pistettynä sil LiLi usb creatoril
[19:28] <Mikaela> ai, se taas on eri ohjelma, joten se ei liity noihin usb-creatorin bugeihin, minä siis sotkin tässä alusta asti
[20:46] <Echramath> Jänniä nää versionvaihdoksi, xsane jäänyt johonkin matkan varrelle
[21:00] <Mikaela> eikö se enää ole hengissä vai tarkoitatko, että Ubuntu muutti jossain vaiheess simple-scan:iin
[21:01] <Echramath> Ei ollut asennettuna enää nyt kun sain skannerin takaisin
[21:01] <Mikaela> ok
[21:03] <Echramath> Tää osaa kuitenkin kaikenlaisia temppuja
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ubuntu-chat
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2024-05-13T22:11:09.047435
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2015-04-25-#ubuntu-unity
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[20:47] <Encrypt> Hi!
[20:47] <Encrypt> So what has happened to the count in the messaging menu?
[20:48] <Encrypt> I had managed to have it working with µTox
[20:48] <Encrypt> But now, the count never appears
[20:51] <Encrypt> Hum, works again
[20:51] <Encrypt> Weird
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ubuntu-chat
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2024-05-13T22:11:09.051327
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2015-04-25-#ubuntustudio
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[00:29] <elk> hi
[00:32] <elk> how can control timing of process?
[05:33] <ash__> exit
[19:42] <Guest2323> hey guys im trying to get ubuntu studio and im getting a boot error something about cannot mount /dev/sda dev swquashfs
[19:42] <Guest2323> install*
[19:42] <Guest2323> along side win8.1
[19:46] <Guest2323> anyone here?
[19:46] <Guest2323> live usb wont boot at all
[23:12] <doohdaah> in ubuntustudio 14.10 getting a new soundcard still doesnt make sound on Audio Production devices. Where to start trouble shooting?
[23:18] <doohdaah2> ubuntustudio 14.10 ... having problems with Audio Production software sound output. where to start troubleshooting
[23:34] <OvenWerks> doohdaah2: are you running jackd?
[23:36] <OvenWerks> doohdaah2: on some audio cards you have to make sure the levels are up. Pulse does this sort of auto on many internal cards but not some of the pro/semipro cards like the ice1712 based cards
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ubuntu-chat
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2024-05-13T22:11:09.054473
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2015-04-25-#ubuntu-us-pa
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[00:55] <TengokuNoIsan> Good bacon to all and to all some good bacon!
[09:51] <JonathanD> Morning.
[10:11] <rmg51> Morning JonathanD
[10:12] <JonathanD> Hey rmg51
[10:14] <rmg51> o/
[10:47] <TengokuNoIsan> morning
[11:01] <JonathanD> How's it going?
[11:02] <TengokuNoIsan> rocking atm
[11:02] <TengokuNoIsan> https://www.dropbox.com/s/f74kd66pihjea8m/2015-04-21%2022.04.21.jpg?dl=0
[11:02] <JonathanD> Cool.
[11:02] <TengokuNoIsan> much rack. I need IKEA lack tables
[11:02] <JonathanD> heh
[11:03] <TengokuNoIsan> Thinking an end table, and the $20 coffee table
[11:03] <JonathanD> my servers are in a pile starting at the floor on an old compaq that's true purpose at this point is to keep the rest from getting water damage if it floods.
[11:03] <JonathanD> With a couple in a stereo rack (which is at least a 19in)
[11:04] <TengokuNoIsan> notbad.jpg
[11:06] <TengokuNoIsan> dropping a Perc6 in the 860, and then giving it away to a guy from Reddit in FL
[11:07] <TengokuNoIsan> Pent D 925, 2GB, 146GB 15K SAS
[11:10] <JonathanD> I need to get rid of my crap.
[11:10] <JonathanD> I'm only using the poweredge right now.
[11:10] <JonathanD> I just have tons of VMs on it.
[11:11] <TengokuNoIsan> what you have to sell?
[11:13] <JonathanD> I don't know if it's worthy of sale anymore.
[11:13] <JonathanD> There's 4 IBM servers, but those are PIII
[11:14] <JonathanD> and a newer IBM, forget what it is, but it's a big light on resources.
[11:14] <JonathanD> and a dl360
[11:14] <JonathanD> needs a part though.
[11:14] <JonathanD> I might have to scrap them at this point.
[11:14] <JonathanD> I have a second poweredge I'm using as a storage server. Forgot about that.
[11:14] <TengokuNoIsan> what part on the 360?
[11:14] <JonathanD> a fan assembly.
[11:14] <TengokuNoIsan> spex?
[11:14] <JonathanD> One of the proc fans.
[11:15] <JonathanD> I'll have to check when I'm home.
[11:15] <TengokuNoIsan> :D
[11:15] <JonathanD> Since I can't power it on without the fan :)
[11:15] <TengokuNoIsan> Need a 2950 with 2 E5335s, 16GB, 3 146GB 15Ks and a Perc5?
[11:15] <JonathanD> The poweredge is serving my needs pretty well.
[11:15] <JonathanD> Runs 3 asterisk boxes, zenoss, a couple webservers, owncloud, and a squid proxy for everything to sit behind.
[11:16] <JonathanD> and my firewall.
[11:16] <TengokuNoIsan> In "Das Game Room" on Facebook, there is a gentleman by the name of Jason Griebau.
[11:16] <JonathanD> (on the flip side if that box dies my network dies with it)
[11:16] <TengokuNoIsan> He's selling for $200
[11:16] <JonathanD> I shouldn't get any more hardware lol :)
[11:16] <TengokuNoIsan> U know u want it
[11:16] * TengokuNoIsan pushes like a dealer
[11:16] <JonathanD> Should have seen my wifes face when I brought home the storage server.
[11:17] <JonathanD> I was walking to my car and it was literally sitting on the sidewalk next to it... older 4 bay poweredge tower.
[11:17] <JonathanD> I had been thinking of buying a small NAS or sometihng.
[11:17] <JonathanD> But it made such a sad little face I just had to take it in.
[11:17] <TengokuNoIsan> awww
[11:18] <JonathanD> The previous owner had smashed in the disks with a hammer so badly I had to hammer the disk trays back into workable shape myself.
[11:19] <TengokuNoIsan> DAFUNQ?
[11:19] <TengokuNoIsan> I had a guy toss a bunch of Dual E5335 Xeon IBM servers in the skip at the local recycling place. He SNAPPED the dimmes, drilled the CPUs, and smashed _47_ 146GB SAS 15Ks
[11:19] <TengokuNoIsan> s/dimmes/dimms
[11:20] <JonathanD> I can see killing diksks
[11:20] <JonathanD> that makes sense to me.
[11:20] <JonathanD> but snapping the dimms?
[11:20] <TengokuNoIsan> he even smashed the motherboards and QUAD GB intel NICs
[11:20] <JonathanD> This proliant had a pair of FC cards in it.
[11:20] <JonathanD> In working order.
[11:20] <TengokuNoIsan> nice
[11:21] <JonathanD> If I get around to it I'll wire it up to the vm server via those.
[11:21] <JonathanD> Just because.
[11:21] <JonathanD> (not like I need the throughput lol)
[11:21] <JonathanD> Right now it's all iscsi.
[11:22] <TengokuNoIsan> :D
[11:22] <TengokuNoIsan> I need to get ready to head to $UNI and $TA
[11:23] <JonathanD> I'm at the office for some special weekend crap :P
[11:23] <TengokuNoIsan> I got a call this morning, DEMANDING I assist IT on Community day
[11:23] <TengokuNoIsan> at 9AM
[11:23] <TengokuNoIsan> That's wshen I TA...
[11:28] <JonathanD> But community day is fun!?
[11:28] <JonathanD> TengokuNoIsan: which uni?
[11:30] <TengokuNoIsan> CCCNJ
[11:30] <TengokuNoIsan> Of course, IT has shot my application down three years in a row :P
[11:30] <JonathanD> Cool.
[11:30] <TengokuNoIsan> bbiab
[11:54] <waltman> JonathanD: nothing wrong with a little fixer-upper. I'm sure it just needed a little love.
[11:55] <JonathanD> waltman: love by hammer.
[11:55] <JonathanD> :P
[11:55] <JonathanD> and vise.
[11:55] <waltman> tough love
[11:56] <JonathanD> Indeed.
[11:57] <waltman> Still, it could've been worse. It could've been this: http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2015/04/22/man-puts-8-bullets-in-his-dell-tells-police-its-worth-the-ticket/
[11:57] <JonathanD> Hah, I saw that.
[11:57] <JonathanD> Poor dell :P
[12:00] <SamuraiAlba> @Uni
[12:00] <SamuraiAlba> :D
[12:00] <SamuraiAlba> Multiple nicks ;)
[12:10] <JonathanD> Hah.
[12:10] <SamuraiAlba> I need rack mounts
[12:13] <waltman> pleia2: The Penn Band just adopted one of these at the Philadelphia Zoo. It really needs to have an Ubuntu version named after it!
[12:13] <waltman> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coquerel%27s_sifaka
[12:13] <waltman> comely coquerel's sifaka?
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ubuntu-chat
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2024-05-13T22:11:09.060221
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2015-04-25-#ubuntu-gr
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[10:08] <Tassos> Έχει ασχοληθεί ποτέ κανείς με προγραμματισμό στο Qt ?
[10:08] <Tassos> Έχω ένα πρόβλημα... δε ξέρω πως να περάσω μια μεταβλητή ή ένα αντικείμενο από ένα παράθυρο.. σε ένα άλλο
[10:08] <Tassos> :/
[10:14] <Anoniem4l> Tassos: eukolo tha einai pisteuw
[10:15] <Anoniem4l> eixa asxolithei palia me qt
[10:29] <Tassos> Anoniem4l: μπορείς να με βοηθήσεις σε παρακαλώ;
[10:29] <Tassos> εγώ δε τα καταφέρνω.. :(
[10:31] <Tassos> χρειάζεται το connect ; Τι; Δε μπορώ να το πιάσω.. :/
[10:35] <Anoniem4l> pisteuw xriazete C++ kai oxi Qt :p
[10:36] <Anoniem4l> eksartate se ti morfh einai to window.... einai class?
[10:38] <Tassos> ναι
[10:38] <Tassos> σε class
[10:39] <Tassos> μέσω του Qt το έφτιαξα γρήγορα
[10:39] <Tassos> δεν έκατσα να γράψω και τον κώδικα σε qt για τα παράθυρα.
[10:39] <Tassos> ο κώδικα που έγραψα εγώ είναι η κλάση μου
[10:40] <Tassos> και είπα να προσπαθήσω να κάνω και ένα ωραίο παράθυρο όπου να την χρησιμοποιώ
[10:41] <Tassos> έτσι, άνοιξα το Qt σχεδίασα ένα παράθυρο.. έβαλα την κλάση μου κ.τλπ.. και έπειτα όλα έπαιζαν ΣΕ ΕΝΑ ΠΑΡΑΘΥΡΟ όμως
[10:42] <Tassos> είπα όμως να κάνω μια άλλη σχεδίαση και την κλάση που δημιουργώ στο κεντρικό παράθυρο , να διαχειρίζομαι
[10:42] <Tassos> κάποιες λειτουργίες τις.. σε ένα άλλο παράθυρο
[10:43] <Tassos> και εδώ ήρθε το κώλυμα..
[10:43] <Tassos> Anoniem4l: δεν ξέρω εδώ τώρα, το πως να την περάσω σαν παράμετρο στο άλλο παράθυρο
[10:53] <Anoniem4l> Tassos: file to pws na peraseis mia metavliti apo mia klash opoudipote allou einai C++ oxi Qt, episis tha sinistousa na deis kana videaki sto youtube peri Qt programming
[10:53] <Anoniem4l> apo kei kai pera den boro na kanw pola distixos
[10:57] <Tassos> δε ξερω τι να πω.. :/
[10:57] <Tassos> σε ευχαριστώ πάρα πολύ πάντως!
[10:57] <Anoniem4l> np
[16:25] <Tassos> Γνωρίζει κάποος αν επιτρέπετε να αλλάξω την έκδοση του bios ; έχω την μητρική
[16:25] <Tassos> asus sabertooth 990fx r2.0
[16:36] <geothom230> ti thes na kaneis?
[16:36] <geothom230> kai poio einai to provlima sou?
[16:42] <Tassos> geothom230: συγνώμη ξέχασα να πω ότι
[16:42] <Tassos> έχω κάνει το τελευταίο update
[16:42] <Tassos> στο bios
[16:42] <Tassos> αλλά αυτό έχει κάποια προβλήματα
[16:42] <Tassos> και θέλω να βάλω αν είναι την προηγούμενη version του bios πάνω
[16:43] <Tassos> τώρα έχω το πρόβλημα του ότι
[16:43] <Tassos> στην μητρική κάπου
[16:43] <geothom230> ti leitourgiko exeis fortomeno
[16:43] <geothom230> kanei boot kanonika i kollaei
[16:43] <Tassos> ακούγετε ένα "τσιρ..τσιρ.." σαν ρευμα. Ένας πολύ μικρός ήχος σαν ρεύμα δε ξέρω πως ακριώς να τον εξηγήσω τώρα
[16:44] <Tassos> και όσο για αυτό όλα είναι μια χαρά
[16:44] <Tassos> ο υπολογιστής είναι ΠΛΉΡΩς λειτουργικός
[16:44] <Tassos> αλλά
[16:44] <Tassos> ανοίγοντας τον.. δεν ακούγετε τίποτα.. ( ή αν μπω στο bios.. ) μόλις όμως μπω μετά το logic screen του ubuntu
[16:45] <Tassos> αρχίζει το "τσιρ..τσιρ"
[16:45] <geothom230> tote tha prepei na to pas se ena katastima pou to agorases gia na sto kanei na leitourgei kala
[16:45] <Tassos> και το περίεργο είναι ότι ΑΝ ένας πυρήνας του υπολογιστή δουλέψει λίγο παραπάνω.. ή γενικά η cpu
[16:45] <Tassos> πάνω από το περίπου 20%, ο ήχος δεν ακούγετε
[16:45] <Tassos> :/
[16:46] <Tassos> όλα είναι μια χαρά ( τουλάχιστον εγώ δεν αντιλαμβάνομαι τίποτα )
[16:46] <Tassos> αλλά ο ήχος αυτός επειδή εγώ τον προσέχω.. είναι σπαστικός κάπως
[16:46] <Tassos> απλώς φοβάμαι τώρα να ξανά πειράξω το bios ( έχω σε ένα σκληρό και windows και από εκεί μέσο ενός
[16:47] <Tassos> προγράμματος της ASUS έκανα εγκατάσταση το τελευταίο bios.. ) αλλά τώρα δε ξέρω.. :/
[16:47] <Tassos> δε ξέρω αν επιτρέπετε να το αλλάξω σε μια παλαιότερη έκδοση
[16:47] <geothom230> diavase to user guide manual tis mitriki sou gia troubleshooting isos vreis ti lysi ekei
[16:48] <Tassos> troubleshooting ; Τι είναι αυτό αν επιτρέπετε ;
[16:48] <Tassos> ( αν μπορείς να μου πεις ^_^ :P )
[16:48] <geothom230> ama den mporeis na to kaneis esi tote pane se kapoio pou xerei na sto kanei koinos apo ekei pou to agorases standard tha xeroun na sto kanoun
[16:49] <geothom230> gia problimata
[16:49] <geothom230> pantos einai oraia mitriki kai stratiotiki
[16:49] <geothom230> 8-)
[16:49] <Tassos> είναι και στην εγγύηση και από το e-shop που τα πείρα όλα απότο pc, αλλά και από την asus ( δίνει εγγύηση 5 χρόνια )
[16:50] <Tassos> αλλά ποιος παει το pc του τώρα σε αυτούς.. :/ να σου το κρατήσουν και πόσο καιρό.. :/
[16:50] <Tassos> σε ευχαριστώ.. ^_^ :D είναι πολύ καλή όντως..
[16:50] <Tassos> αλλά να μου έβγαλε αυτό το χαζό τώρα.. :/
[16:51] <Tassos> με κανένα τηλέφωνο στην asus, λες να γίνεται τίποτα ;
[16:51] <Tassos> ( μπαα... :P )
[16:52] <geothom230> ama den mporeis kai exeis kanena filaraki sou parton tilephono na sou pei pou na xerei
[16:53] <kerato> de nomizw oti ginetai downgrade se bios
[16:53] <Tassos> ορίστε;
[16:53] <geothom230> alla apo oti katalava ama diavaseis to manual tis mitrikis sigoura tha lyseis to provlima sou
[16:53] <geothom230> aplos tha vgalei tin mpataria tou cmos kai tha epanelethei sta default tis mitriksi
[16:53] <Tassos> αΥΤΟ.. αυτό για το downgrade φίλε μου kerato ( χαίρετε κιόλας :D ) είναι που με έχουν μπερδέψει
[16:54] <Tassos> μια πέρα όπως προχωρούσα στον δρόμο ότι μαγαζί έβλεπα με υπολογιστές κτλπ.. έμπαινε και τους το έλεγα
[16:55] <Tassos> και μου έλεγαν διάφορα.. οι περισσότεροι μου είπα να αυτό... ότι "downgrade σε bios δεν γίνεται ".. αλλά,
[16:55] <geothom230> googlarise sto google to provlima sou kai isos eisai tyxeros na lyseis to provlima sou
[16:55] <Tassos> υπήρχαν και άλλοι που μου είπαν πως "γίνεται, ναι το έχω κάνει κιόλας αφού το λογισμικό θα κάνει *καινούρια" εγκατάσταση
[16:55] <Tassos> δε θα κάνεις ακριβώς downgrade"
[16:55] <Tassos> και έτσι με έχουν μπερδέψει.. :/
[16:56] <Tassos> geothom230: το άκουσα και αυτό από κάποιους.. :/ αλλά δε ξέρω.. δε το δοκίμασα
[16:57] <geothom230> exeis windows i ubuntu
[16:57] <Tassos> και τα δύο αν χρειάζεται
[16:58] <Tassos> ( έχω σε ένα παλιό σκληρό των 500GB windows 7 μέσα
[16:58] <Tassos> )
[16:58] <Tassos> αλλά κυρίως - τα πάντα τα κάνω με ubuntu
[16:58] <Tassos> όμως τους drivers από τα windows 7 τους έκανα εγκατάσταση και το bios επίσης ( όπως είπα και παραπάνω )
[17:00] <geothom230> einai dyladi dual boot
[17:00] <geothom230> otan to kaneis ekinisi ti sou vgazei
[17:01] <Tassos> ναι έχω ρυθμίσει το grub να βλέπει και εκείνων τον σκληρό κατά την εκκίνηση
[17:01] <Tassos> και μπορώ να διαλέξω
[17:01] <Tassos> όπως κανονικό το doual boot με partition
[17:01] <Tassos> ;)
[17:02] <geothom230> diladi mpoutarei sto leitourgiko sou systema kanonika
[17:06] <geothom230> Tassos:http://www.overclock.net/t/1137854/how-to-quickly-reset-cmos-on-asus-sabertooth-990fx
[17:06] <geothom230> des auto
[17:08] <geothom230> epis ektos apo to googlarisma stin mixani anazitisis einai kai to youtube opos ayto https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L5ILl55mc7M
[17:08] <geothom230> gia tin mitriki sou pou exei provlima elpizo esto kai ligo na boithisa
[17:30] <Tassos> geothom230.. :/ συγνώμη είχα φύγει για λίγο
[17:30] <Tassos> σε ευχαριστώ πολύ
[17:36] <kerato> efyge tassare
[17:36] <kerato> 8a tou metaferoume tis eyxaristies sou
[17:40] <Tassos> kerato: κάνεις εσύ φίλε; όλα καλά; :)
[17:41] <kerato> actually oxi, hangover kai ponokefalo
[17:43] <Tassos> χααχαχ
[17:43] <Tassos> από καλή φάση όμως ;
[17:45] <kerato> e entaksei
[17:56] <Tassos> xaax ;)
[17:56] <Tassos> να σε καλά πάντως φίλε :)
[18:50] <xeirwn> kalispera paides !
[18:54] <Anoniem4l> kalhspera xeirwn :)
[19:10] <xeirwn> eiii Anoniem4l :)
[19:11] <Anoniem4l> ti leei pws eimaste?
[19:12] <xeirwn> ti leei ?
[19:17] <Anoniem4l> edw ftiaxnw ena site, esu? :)
[19:18] <xeirwn> egw, prospa8w na eksikoio8w me kati programmata epeksergaias foto
[19:18] <xeirwn> epeksergasias*
[19:18] <xeirwn> otan to teliwseis , afhse me na to dw plz....
[19:20] <Anoniem4l> xeirwn: http://puu.sh/hqys4/e41a52080f.png
[19:20] <Anoniem4l> twra bazw PHP
[19:20] <Anoniem4l> na douleuoun ola
[19:22] <xeirwn> ta eixa kanei prin 14 xronia peripou.....ta exw ksexasei sxedon ola :(
[19:24] <Anoniem4l> exei plaka :D
[19:25] <xeirwn> twra exw mpleksei me thn fotografia........kai den nomizw na ksempleksw kiolas ;)
[19:28] <Anoniem4l> aha wraios
[19:28] <Anoniem4l> photoshop?
[19:28] <xeirwn> Gimp kai darktable
[19:29] <Anoniem4l> den marese katholou to gimp :(
[19:29] <xeirwn> to photoshop phge kai auto adiabasto , mazu me ta windows....
[19:29] <Anoniem4l> sa to photoshop gia mena padws allo tipota
[19:29] <xeirwn> an to skaliseis ligo , kai to fereis sta metra sou, tote 8a allakseis gnwmh isws ;)
[19:31] <xeirwn> o sundiasmos linux-gimp-darktable-luminance....einai plirhs
[19:52] <Anoniem4l> mhmm ama erthei h stigmh na asxolithw tha to koitaksw :)
[19:52] <xeirwn> (Y)
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[05:43] <SilverSpace> ke
[05:44] <SilverSpace> jutar
[06:28] <vileni> se kuzi tko u netflow? :)
[06:47] <SilverSpace> no da tko ga nema :)
[06:47] <SilverSpace> vileni: kaj je to uopce
[06:48] <vileni> SilverSpace: protokol za pracenje mreznog prometa
[06:48] <SilverSpace> jucer instalirao ubuntu mladom skolarcu kaze dosadili mu windoze
[06:49] <ivoks> jutro
[06:49] <ivoks> prekjucer mi se raspao btrfs
[06:50] <ivoks> kernel oopsao
[06:50] <ivoks> i to na aerodromu
[06:50] <ivoks> panika samo takva
[06:50] <nicols> zijev!
[06:50] <ivoks> i nakon dva reboota - proradio :)
[06:50] <SilverSpace> :)
[06:50] <nicols> kakvom crnom aerodromu?
[06:50] <SilverSpace>
[06:51] <SilverSpace> crnogorskom
[06:51] <ivoks> dobro pitanje
[06:51] <ivoks> nedjelja - zagreb, london
[06:51] <vileni> zasto bi neciji desktop napravio 5.3TB prometa u tjedan dana?
[06:51] <ivoks> ponedjeljak - london, zagreb
[06:51] <SilverSpace> vileni: ides kaj sam od sebe
[06:51] <ivoks> petak - zagreb, minhen, koeln
[06:51] <ivoks> subota - koeln, frankfurt, zagreb
[06:52] <vileni> SilverSpace: prilicno sam siguran da nije sam od sebe, ali ako iskljucimo ddos, neznam sto mi preostaje
[06:52] <ivoks> nedjelja - zagreb, minhen, malta
[06:52] <nicols> čekaj, raspao se btrfs na serveru koji održavaš na aerodromu ili na tvom laptopu dok si putovao okolo? :)
[06:52] <ivoks> laptopu
[06:52] <ivoks> lako za server
[06:52] <ivoks> to ima backup :D
[06:52] <nicols> hahahahaha
[06:53] <ivoks> lol, skroz zaboravio
[06:53] <ivoks> prethodna nedjelja je bila
[06:53] <ivoks> nedjelja - zagreb, bec, london
[06:53] <ivoks> ponedjeljak - london, bec
[06:53] <ivoks> utorak - zagreb
[06:54] <SilverSpace> joj koji putnik :)
[06:54] <ivoks> bec zagreb sam zaspao na cesti
[06:54] <SilverSpace> jel ti nesto radis :)
[06:54] <ivoks> da samo putnik
[06:54] <nicols> kak sad cesti ako si išao avionom?
[06:54] <ivoks> bec - london je bilo avionom
[06:54] <ivoks> a zagreb - bec autom
[06:54] <ivoks> i obrnuto
[06:55] <ivoks> otisao s jednom malom na kavu u bec
[06:55] <ivoks> :]
[06:58] <SilverSpace> jedna mala plava na ramenu mi spava
[07:01] <nicols> ja nikako da opravim ikone na svom kdeju
[07:02] <nicols> sve drugo sam natviko, ali ikone su žilave
[07:03] <ivoks> idem se prebacit na 15.10
[07:03] <ivoks> er
[07:03] <ivoks> 15.04
[07:06] <ivoks> 'Dobivanje novih paketa'
[07:06] <ivoks> o joj
[07:06] <ivoks> onome tko je ovo ovako preveo, na temelju samo toga, cemo oduzeti prava prevodjenja
[07:19] <nicols> http://i71.photobucket.com/albums/i145/nbelavic/1504upgr_zpsrryeibws.png?t=1429859929
[08:08] <dodobas> http://www.humanbenchmark.com/tests/reactiontime
[08:09] <SilverSpace> pih
[08:18] <Mmike> ivoks, zakaj btrfs? to je tolko nesigurno jos da ti se fakat divim
[08:18] <Mmike> ja imam to na scratch diskovima doma di su mi lxcovi i kvmovi
[08:18] <Mmike> i ono, svako malo sranje neko
[08:19] <Mmike> al' nije bed jer mogu ubit, preformatirat, i opet
[08:19] <Mmike> sad imam 3.19 kernel, navodno su popravili dosta toga u btrfsu
[08:19] <Mmike> pa ce da vidimo
[08:29] <SilverSpace> Mmike: kaj dobijes tim btrfs? osim da imas sranja
[08:30] <nicols> bolji fajlsistem
[08:31] <nicols> lakše se namaže na kruh
[08:31] <nicols> daklem:
[08:31] <nicols> http://i71.photobucket.com/albums/i145/nbelavic/icons-kde_zpseflbphkj.jpg
[08:32] <SilverSpace> nicols: kaj ti ikone smetaju :)
[08:33] <VjetarSaSunca> jutro
[08:34] <VjetarSaSunca> za prijatelja BotaniCar-a i društvo u kutu: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=39hFu4ByBH8
[08:34] <datase> YouTube: Damjan Eltech feat. Sajsi MC - Lajkiram (Official Video) - 0:03:19 - 11,100 views - 56 likes / 4 dislikes
[08:37] <SilverSpace> VjetarSaSunca: uzas
[08:38] <VjetarSaSunca> :)
[08:38] <VjetarSaSunca> SilverSpace: gdje ti je otvorenost uma i da voliš sve što vole mladi? ;)
[08:49] <SilverSpace> VjetarSaSunca: ma komadi su ok
[08:49] <SilverSpace> muzika hm zakujac
[08:50] <VjetarSaSunca> evo ti nešto popularnije :) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GGhZVb79K8A
[08:50] <datase> YouTube: Sajsi Mc ft. B.k.o. - Antifa Kucke (Official HD Video 2012) - 0:03:03 - 820,222 views - 3139 likes / 1646 dislikes
[08:50] <SilverSpace> ovi nemaju sluha
[08:50] <SilverSpace> jebeni ubuntu kaze da nije dobro snimio boot usb, a usbe radi bez greske
[08:53] <SilverSpace> VjetarSaSunca: kaj ti slusas :)
[08:53] <SilverSpace> ako je to danas u trendu
[08:53] <VjetarSaSunca> SilverSpace: :) To je za buđeje.
[08:53] <SilverSpace> onda je mlakes cista katastrofa
[08:54] <VjetarSaSunca> Evo ti jedna iz žanra sa 4M pregleda https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wk8WFekFS0I
[08:54] <datase> YouTube: Damjan Eltech - Mama [OFICIAL VIDEO] - 0:03:20 - 4,412,905 views - 18544 likes / 3449 dislikes
[09:16] <nicols> VjetarSaSunca: bljak :(
[09:16] <VjetarSaSunca> nije to moja furka
[09:16] <VjetarSaSunca> ja sam više za nešto ovakvo: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SqUDgQy2i3E
[09:17] <datase> YouTube: Steven Seagal & «Николай Арутюнов & Funky Soul». BLUES JAM - 0:05:57 - 314,671 views - 1172 likes / 48 dislikes
[09:19] <nicols> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e96lbFiG_k8
[09:19] <datase> YouTube: Gus Gus - Full Performance (Live on KEXP) - 0:22:44 - 2,470,318 views - 17580 likes / 316 dislikes
[09:26] <VjetarSaSunca> cijenim odabir nicols
[09:29] <SilverSpace> koliko moras biti glup da u danasnje vrijeme napravis maticnu plocu koja ne podrzava 64 bitne windoze ustvari nis 64 bitno sa procesorom koji je 64bitni ?
[09:30] <VjetarSaSunca> jako glup
[09:30] <SilverSpace> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-ZtCRJld08c
[09:30] <datase> YouTube: Therion - Lemuria - 0:04:16 - 2,792,434 views - 9773 likes / 203 dislikes
[09:32] <SilverSpace> this motherboard does not support 64-bit OS
[09:39] <VjetarSaSunca> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8HrmAgYE-6k
[09:40] <datase> YouTube: Hugh Laurie - Unchain My Heart (from Ocean Way Studios) - 0:04:18 - 2,764,094 views - 28608 likes / 282 dislikes
[09:43] <SilverSpace> dobar je Dr.
[09:45] <SilverSpace> https://youtu.be/ZAWI4iVATj8?t=4s
[09:45] <datase> YouTube: Marin: "Take Me To Church" - The Voice of Croatia - Season1 - Live5 - 0:02:34 - 211,127 views - 3116 likes / 106 dislikes
[09:51] <VjetarSaSunca> Nešto za kraj. Pičim na Sljeme https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TLV4_xaYynY
[09:51] <datase> YouTube: The Jimi Hendrix Experience - All Along The Watchtower (Official Audio) - 0:04:02 - 12,928,659 views - 57502 likes / 1398 dislikes
[10:40] <nicols> a?
[10:40] <nicols> što me izbacilo?
[12:01] <SilverSpace> no da ja nemam
[12:01] <SilverSpace> m
[12:01] <SilverSpace> macka da mi zgasi razvodnu letvu ja to sam napravim
[12:37] <Mmike> SilverSpace, dobis 'napredne ficure' :)
[12:37] <Mmike> SilverSpace, meni najzanimljiviji snapshotting i cloning
[12:38] <Mmike> recimo, imam lxc container u kojem imam instaliran percona-xtradb-cluster, corosync i pacemaker
[12:38] <Mmike> to je hrpetina paketa
[12:38] <Mmike> i to sve nainstaliram
[12:38] <Mmike> ugasim container
[12:38] <Mmike> onda kad testiram kak radi 3node percona cluster
[12:38] <Mmike> samo kloniram taj template u 3 nova
[12:38] <Mmike> sto je gotovo u sekundi
[12:38] <Mmike> i ne moram cekat da se to sve instalira tamo
[12:39] <Mmike> samo se promijeni konfiguracija, i vozi
[12:39] <Mmike> plus, ak template zauzima 2 gige, recimo
[12:39] <Mmike> svaki clone ne zauzima nist ekstra
[12:39] <Mmike> jer btrfs sam radi 'deduplikaciju'
[12:39] <Mmike> uz to za raid0/2/4/5/6/kolikovec ne moras koristiti mdadm, btrfs to sve ima u sebi
[12:39] <Mmike> (u biti mozda raid5 nema)
[12:39] <Mmike> ja koristim raid0, i to mi je super prakticno
[12:40] <Mmike> eto, to ti je zakaj koristim btrfs
[12:40] <Mmike> al' svaka 2-3 tjedna moram obrisat sve i mkfs iznova
[12:40] <Mmike> jer se fest uspori :)
[13:07] <jelly> brijem da ce zfs dobiti dosta korisnika kad bude u debianu
[13:16] <Mmike> http://thecodinglove.com/post/114654680296/when-people-tell-me-php-is-not-a-real-programming
[13:16] <Mmike> jelly, yup, to cem isto sve probati sa ZFSom
[13:16] <Mmike> neke bedove sam imao s time kad sam probao prije, ne sjecam se vise kaj
[13:16] <Mmike> al' nisam probavao od kad sam utuko u ove SSDove
[13:20] <Mmike> http://thecodinglove.com/post/114055194519/dealing-with-the-unfinished-project-left-by
[13:31] <SilverSpace> joj
[13:31] <SilverSpace> tko mi jos jednom dode da mu instaliram windoze dobit ce palicom
[13:32] <SilverSpace> Mmike: nisi rebutao nocas
[13:33] <SilverSpace> samo kaj se spojim na internet gamad se odma useli
[13:41] <SilverSpace> sad samo gledam kak ikone iskacu i nis ne istaliram
[13:41] <SilverSpace> majke ti koje sranje oni prave
[13:51] <frainfreeze> SilverSpace, nisu windowsi problem već korisnik.
[13:53] <SilverSpace> frainfreeze: zapalit
[13:53] <SilverSpace> sekirom razvalit
[13:54] <frainfreeze> Tehnički su dosta dobar OS.
[13:54] <frainfreeze> Tj win 7
[13:54] <SilverSpace> reko ja da ulovim zlatnu ribicu prva zelja atomsku na microsoft
[13:55] <frainfreeze> ...
[13:55] <SilverSpace> frainfreeze: jel normalno da malwrebayt nade 140 sranja a dvije stvari instaliram
[13:55] <frainfreeze> I oni su samo ljudi koji rade na tome kako bi preživjeli.
[13:56] <frainfreeze> A gle nije tu problem windows već ljudi koji su napravili malware
[13:56] <SilverSpace> ne zalim nikoga tko se bavi windozima
[13:56] <frainfreeze> + nemoj instalirati sranja onda.
[13:56] <SilverSpace> pa moram drivere staviti
[13:56] <frainfreeze> Gle na laptop sam nabacio windows radio je ok, nabacio ubuntu neradi wi fi ni bluetooth.
[13:57] <frainfreeze> Pa ti reci. Nebranim ja win ali kazem da netreba toliko srat po njemu.
[13:57] <SilverSpace> kaj radi
[13:57] <SilverSpace> radi ako slozis ko i na linux
[13:57] <SilverSpace> kita radi kad ih instaliras
[13:59] <frainfreeze> A ono, win je ok za običnog korisnika. Nabaciš 360 total security, M$ office, chrome i firefox (bez flasha) i to ide.
[14:00] <frainfreeze> Nema virusa ni sranja. Problem je što korisnici kilkču okolo ko budale
[14:00] <frainfreeze> "Klikni i obogatise" yeah right.
[14:00] <SilverSpace> 434 mb
[14:01] <SilverSpace> nisu na netu vise odsat vremena
[14:02] <SilverSpace> pet ikona sam se pojavile
[14:02] <SilverSpace> lol
[14:03] <frainfreeze> Nemam pojma. Ovaj sistem na kojem sam sad ima win već 1g koristim ga 5 sati dnevno, najmanje. (radi kao server 24/7 reboot nedjeljom u ponoć)
[14:04] <SilverSpace> ma kriv sam sto nisam odma neki antivirus stavio pa onda crome i trazit drivere
[14:05] <SilverSpace> ovako samo jednom kliknes i ode sve u 3pm
[14:08] <frainfreeze> bome.
[14:16] <SilverSpace> zato sam zamrzio windoze
[14:16] <SilverSpace> uvijek bas uvijek ja imam sa njima neka sranja
[14:24] <SilverSpace> ovo sam fakat trebao snimati
[14:25] <frainfreeze> haha
[14:25] <frainfreeze> Znam zajebavati, istina je.
[14:26] <frainfreeze> Ali da je sve lagano zivot bi bio dosadan
[14:41] <SilverSpace> prije bi bio gotov da sam napravio format
[14:41] <SilverSpace> nego sad trazit kaj se sve instaliralo
[14:42] <SilverSpace> kaj je najgore nece ici ni na net
[14:44] <frainfreeze> nemam pojma šta radiš ali nezvuci dobro
[14:44] <frainfreeze> Jel to cd sa službenim ISO, ha?
[14:44] <frainfreeze> AKo nije službeni ISO moš si ga nagurat... znaš vać di.
[14:44] <SilverSpace> ma orginal
[14:59] <nicols> pustinja
[14:59] <nicols> :)
[15:00] <frainfreeze> Najbolje da mi napravimo svoj OS. Ako počnemo danas stignemo napraviti nešto funkcionalno do kraja desetljeća.
[15:01] <frainfreeze> + napravimo po hrvatskoj licenci, tj bez licence.
[15:01] <SilverSpace> :)
[15:01] <SilverSpace> zajeb je kaj to nitko nece
[15:02] <SilverSpace> free nije dobro
[15:02] <frainfreeze> Evo, ja ću. Baš učim C i trebam na nešto gubit vrijeme.
[15:02] <frainfreeze> a početak na gotovom kernelu.
[15:03] * frainfreeze želi pisati drivere jednog dana
[15:07] <SilverSpace> jesam li reko koliko mrzim windoze
[15:07] <SilverSpace> sam sam si kriv
[15:13] <SilverSpace> sve se sad bojim ustekat laan kabrl
[15:15] <SilverSpace> pasivni atom pici na 70°
[15:45] <nicols> hebate led!
[15:45] <nicols> google chrome više ne šljivi moj resolv.conf
[15:45] <nicols> bole ga čošak od lakta za to :)
[15:46] <vileni> nicols: koristi njihove dns-ove?
[15:46] <nicols> 17:45:01.252919 IP 192.168.1.200.9884 > google-public-dns-a.google.com.domain: 55509+ A? google.com. (28)
[15:46] <nicols> baš radim tcpdump i nemogu vjerovat :D
[15:49] <nicols> imam složen openvpn tako da mi pusša dns servere od firme kad se spojim na firmu
[15:49] <nicols> ali šipak, chrome to uredno zaobilazi :D
[16:05] <vileni> hmda, zlocesti chrome
[16:33] <markosejic> d vecer
[16:43] <SilverSpace> Vjetar: koliko si ti ono reko da ti je ljeti atom bio °
[16:44] <SilverSpace> ja sad tjrtao u malom zatvorenom kucistu atoma d2700 66°
[16:44] <SilverSpace> vileni: ^^
[16:44] <SilverSpace> to za tebe bilo :)
[16:44] <vileni> SilverSpace: oko 55-60, zavisi sto je radio
[16:45] <SilverSpace> ovog ja sad natjerao i na 70°
[16:45] <vileni> ali na tavanu neizoliranom tavanu, tako da je to zapravo dosta nisko
[16:45] <vileni> duplom tavanu, jel
[16:45] <vileni> :)
[16:45] <SilverSpace> :)
[16:46] <SilverSpace> ovo je tak malo kuciste da nemres vjerovati velicine ploce
[16:55] <nicols> koje kućište?
[16:57] <SilverSpace> mini itx
[17:00] <SilverSpace> 22x22x6,5
[17:42] <nicols> što si darežljiv sa informacijama :)
[17:42] <nicols> koje mini-itx kućište?
[17:46] <SilverSpace> nicols: evo ovo http://www.njuskalo.hr/image-bigger/kucista/aopen-s135b-mini-itx-case-slika-8248678.jpg
[17:48] <Mmike> mlje
[17:48] <Mmike> kak sam zaspo
[17:48] <Mmike> mrzim spavat popodne
[18:05] <vileni> ja bi fractal node 304
[18:05] <vileni> ali skup je
[18:06] <SilverSpace> hm tak tak
[18:07] <vileni> SilverSpace: ima mjesta za 6x3.5" diskova :)
[18:11] <SilverSpace> http://www.technologyx.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/12/In-Win-D-Frame-Mini-Angled-1.jpg
[18:11] <SilverSpace> guba
[18:18] <nicols> opet ja
[18:19] <infy-> 120 WPM average :S
[19:11] <Mmike> http://www.jutarnji.hr/uzivo--zadar---dinamo-1-0--marko-pjaca-pet-minuta-prije-kraja-probio-cvrstu-obranu-zadra/1337436/
[19:11] <Mmike> debili :)
[19:11] <Mmike> valjda 0:1 :)
[19:23] <Mmike> http://www.pcworld.com/article/2871328/the-mintbox-mini-is-a-silent-quad-core-linux-mint-pc-that-fits-in-your-pocket.html
[19:25] <vileni> malo skupo
[19:25] <vileni> i jos mint
[19:31] <SilverSpace> nema DisplayPort
[19:36] <Mmike> http://www.pcdecrapifier.com/
[20:15] <Mmike> http://thecodinglove.com/post/112606155617/client-using-the-application
[20:21] <SilverSpace> Mmike: lol
[20:22] * jelly isto zakrmio popodne, al ima izgovor da zadnja tri dana nije dobro spavao zbog alergija
[20:35] <SilverSpace> jel se isplati nadograditi android player ako sad ovaj radi sasvim ok
[20:39] <SilverSpace> ne diram
[20:41] <SilverSpace> nis ustanovio sam da imam noviju verziju od sluzbene instaliranu
[21:23] <SilverSpace> muka mi dode kad moram preskanirati tv kanale
[21:23] <SilverSpace> muka
[21:24] <SilverSpace> uvijek sve pomjesa
[21:25] <SilverSpace> nikada jos nisu napravili logican raspored kanala
[21:32] <Mmike> SilverSpace, tko su oni?
[21:33] <SilverSpace> btnet
[21:35] <SilverSpace> jebo ih led
[21:35] <SilverSpace> sad kad dode ljepo vrijeme idem ih zajebavati
[21:36] <SilverSpace> sjednem na bic i pred vrata
[21:36] <SilverSpace> hocu optiku
[21:36] <SilverSpace> koja smo mi jebena drzava koje glupane imamo
[21:37] <Mmike> onakve kakve smo si izabrali :)
[21:37] <SilverSpace> danas je osnova svega brzi internet
[21:55] <Mmike> e
[21:55] <Mmike> kak su vam mailovi sortirani?
[21:55] <Mmike> svjezi mailovi gore ili dolje?
[21:55] <SilverSpace> gore meni
[21:55] <jelly> dole u muttu, gore u thunderbirdu, outlooku i na mobitelu
[23:24] <SilverSpace> REBOOT
[23:25] <SilverSpace> ln
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2015-04-25-#ubuntu-discuss
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[04:55] <lotuspsychje> good morning to all
[04:55] <cfhowlett> nihao
[04:55] <lotuspsychje> cfhowlett: hi :p
[07:32] <lordievader> Good morning.
[10:56] <BluesKaj> Hey folks
[13:22] <MonkeyDust> according to reviews, 15.04 is not much different from 14.10
[13:23] <cfhowlett> as expected, no?
[13:23] <BluesKaj> except for the plasma5 desktop
[13:24] <OerHeks> except for systemD, i guess
[13:24] <BluesKaj> on kubuntu
[13:25] <MonkeyDust> kubuntu has some baloo_file bug, that eats cpu
[13:25] <BluesKaj> what's ubuntu look like, same as 14.10 ?
[13:25] <MonkeyDust> plenty complaints in fora, no solution
[13:26] <BluesKaj> always have baloo disabled with akonadi turned off in ~/.config
[13:32] <MonkeyDust> like many others, i like MATE
[14:54] <daftykins> ooh my those naughty liars claiming to be running OSs they're not ^_^
[14:58] <lordievader> daftykins: But Linux Mint is based on Ubuntu! I demand support :P
[15:03] * daftykins sharpens a penguin for lordievader
[15:04] * lordievader runs to safety behind a large stuffed Tux
[15:08] <daftykins> :D
[18:28] <OerHeks> Me still runs 14.10 :-)
[18:31] <daftykins> non-LTS!? you beast!
[18:31] <daftykins> :D
[18:42] <OerHeks> living on the edge
[18:43] <daftykins> i wonder why we're getting this influx of people that like installing newer kernels
[18:43] <OerHeks> They hear about it, i wonder why they don't want 4.0.1
[18:44] <OerHeks> and gnome 3.16
[18:44] <OerHeks> and a picture of me ...
[18:44] <daftykins> :D
[18:45] <daftykins> OerHeks: but a picture might be scary as i believe your name means some form of witch?
[18:45] <OerHeks> "daftykins is not an active member of any Launchpad teams." ... really?
[18:45] <OerHeks> Yes.
[18:45] <daftykins> i don't even use desktop
[18:46] <daftykins> the only bugs i've ever submitted were ignored for over 6+ years
[18:46] <daftykins> in fact i tried to get my accounts deleted but was told that they cannot be.
[18:47] <OerHeks> They can be made inactive, but your input not, that would mess up timelines.
[18:47] <daftykins> might've had a handful of forum posts
[18:47] <OerHeks> Same when someone passes away, what to do with an account.
[18:47] <daftykins> at some point i need to discover if i can stop showing my email address to the world, via googling my nickname
[18:49] <OerHeks> well, here in holland you can ask google.nl to forget about you, but you will be tracable tru google.com :-D
[18:49] <OerHeks> funny EU silly technocrats
[18:50] <daftykins> hehe
[18:50] <daftykins> maybe it's a profile option on launchpad
[18:52] <daftykins> OerHeks: what would a launchpad team do though? :)
[18:53] <OerHeks> There are several teams, some for a softwareproject, or communitystuff, translate, etc
[18:54] <OerHeks> The Dutch team is a low activity team, we like to do more, but it allways ends up on the shoulders of one person
[18:54] <daftykins> heh
[18:54] <OerHeks> and good people come and go..
[18:54] <OerHeks> * good with knowledge
[18:54] <daftykins> i certainly have no dev skills
[18:55] <OerHeks> Yes you do. you are the link between the devs and user.
[18:55] <OerHeks> beiing a dev does not nessaseraly mean you can code
[18:55] <daftykins> hrmm, well i stick to server and don't do all that much there
[18:56] <OerHeks> I still need to fire up a server, playing around with those new features, docker, snappy core
[18:57] <daftykins> transactional updates could be quite interesting
[19:15] <daftykins> dist-upgrade wins the prize for most misleading command ever
[19:16] <daftykins> so many suckers are made :D
[19:36] <OerHeks> true
[22:45] <OerHeks> wow nice overview what IDE can do > http://stackoverflow.com/a/81609
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2015-04-25-#ubuntu
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[00:00] <Captonjamason> 1 hdd
[00:00] <Captonjamason> im on a laptop :\
[00:00] <EriC^^> could be ext hdd
[00:00] <Captonjamason> i dont have any ext hdd
[00:00] <Captonjamason> i ran through the installer, rebooted, and its gives me a screen with nothing on it
[00:01] <Captonjamason> its been like that for about 30 min now
[00:01] <MikeRL> Yay my bug report is going through. Just took some thinking to find the correct package.
[00:01] <EriC^^> is it the only os?
[00:01] <Captonjamason> yes
[00:01] <EriC^^> grub wont show thrn
[00:01] <EriC^^> *then
[00:01] <Captonjamason> i mean
[00:01] <EriC^^> !nomodeset | Cap
[00:02] <Captonjamason> its not giving me anything
[00:02] <EriC^^> ^
[00:02] <Captonjamason> it just has the little bar like its terminal
[00:02] <Captonjamason> thats it
[00:02] <Captonjamason> 'cant typoe
[00:02] <wafflejock> Captonjamason, yeah when booting hold down shift to get grub to show up then hit e to edit your boot config
[00:03] <Captonjamason> ill try
[00:03] <wafflejock> Captonjamason, in the boot params that show up add nomodeset where you see quiet and/or nosplash
[00:03] <Captonjamason> that doesnt work wafflejock
[00:03] <wafflejock> Captonjamason, it'll load up with the vesa video drivers that are generic so the graphics performance/resolution may not be great but should allow you to get into the graphical interface to possibly update the drivers
[00:03] <wafflejock> Captonjamason, which part exactly?
[00:04] <Captonjamason> nothing
[00:04] <Moonlightning> I created a file in /tmp and set it world-readable, but the guest account gets a permission-denied error trying to `cat` it. What gives?
[00:04] <Captonjamason> its just a black screen with the little white line like terminal
[00:04] <wafflejock> Captonjamason, you need to be specific to get help, couldn't get into grub?
[00:04] <Captonjamason> cant type anything
[00:04] <wafflejock> Captonjamason, you need to be holding shift as it's booting just after the BIOS/POST is done to get into grub
[00:05] <Captonjamason> that doesnt help
[00:05] <Captonjamason> ive tried it 5 times now
[00:05] <EriC^^> Moonlightning: guest can't read anything in /tmp maybe
[00:05] <dimitry7> Hi Guys I am getting this: TLS Error: TLS handshake failed
[00:05] <dimitry7> and this: read UDPv4 [ECONNREFUSED]: Connection refused (code=111)
[00:05] <Captonjamason> i dont even think it has grub installed wafflejock
[00:05] <dimitry7> but only when I set UDP as port, if I set TCP it works... what's wrong?
[00:05] <Ben64> Captonjamason: spam the shift button
[00:06] <Captonjamason> ..
[00:06] <Captonjamason> ive been doing that
[00:06] <dimitry7> In my firewall I have enabled UDP in both directions
[00:06] <EriC^^> Captonjamason: if grub wasn't installed then your bios would say no operating system detected or something
[00:06] <MikeRL> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/system-config-printer/+bug/1448351
[00:06] <MikeRL> Report should be good now.
[00:06] <MikeRL> I miss anything?
[00:06] <EriC^^> Captonjamason: you're probably booting grub then booting ubuntu but have a graphics driver issue
[00:06] <Captonjamason> no
[00:06] <EriC^^> yes
[00:06] <Captonjamason> i have no issues with graphics
[00:06] <EriC^^> yes^infinity
[00:07] <Bashing-om> Captonjamason: That condition indicates that bios can not hand off to the boot code . IF you can not boot to the grub boot menu, perhaps consider (RE-)installing grub ?
[00:07] <Ben64> except for the part where you don't have any graphics?
[00:07] <wafflejock> Captonjamason, here are instructions on reinstalling grub from a live cd http://howtoubuntu.org/how-to-repair-restore-reinstall-grub-2-with-a-ubuntu-live-cd
[00:07] <MikeRL> Try boot-repair.
[00:08] <MikeRL> From an Ubuntu Live CD. That works around GRUB issues for me.
[00:08] <Moonlightning> EriC^^: /tmp is a+rxt though
[00:08] <Ben64> grub is likely already installed, if it wasn't there would be an error message like "No boot disk found"
[00:08] <Captonjamason> Ben64: all i have graphics wise is a white line like terminal
[00:08] <EriC^^> Moonlightning: guest is different, it can't even read home dirs even if they are set to read for everyone
[00:08] <Captonjamason> i am trying to get a video to show you
[00:09] <Moonlightning> EriC^^: got a resource on this phenomenon for me?
[00:09] <EriC^^> Moonlightning: what are you trying to do?
[00:09] <Ben64> Captonjamason: we know what a black screen looks like. try harder to get grub to come up, spam the shift key during boot
[00:09] <wafflejock> Captonjamason, yeah just get into the live CD you can check out if you have your grub configuration in place, if there is a problem with grub there you can get it installed if not you can change the config to have a timeout to show the menu
[00:10] <Moonlightning> EriC^^: Nothing; just curious as to why this is happening.
[00:10] <wafflejock> Captonjamason, after getting in there you can get rid of the quiet flag so you see all the parts of the system coming up and can see if it fails at some point there, if it fails when it tries to start up and switch over the the X display then it's probably graphics driver issues in which case you want to use the nomodeset flag
[00:13] <EriC^^> Moonlightning: oh ok
[00:13] <MikeRL> I'm not asking to expedite the bug, if anyone is wondering, but when yuu guys are done helping who your are currently, look at the URL I gave out and see if the report looks complete.
[00:13] <MikeRL> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/system-config-printer/+bug/1448351
[00:14] <Captonjamason> im trying live cd
[00:17] <Captonjamason> if there are any what are the big changes in 15.04
[00:18] <EriC^^> systemd?
[00:18] <EriC^^> nautilus looks like crap, imho
[00:19] <Ben64> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/VividVervet/ReleaseNotes
[00:19] <Captonjamason> thanks ben
[00:19] <jeffreylevesque> does ubuntu 14.04 come with the puppet client?
[00:20] <jeffreylevesque> I spun up ubuntu 14.04 server - https://atlas.hashicorp.com/ubuntu/boxes/trusty64
[00:20] <tim_> hy all.. need some help setting up assaultcube .. got no servers :-S
[00:21] <jeffreylevesque> and when i start the VM, and do `ps -e`, i notice '1049 ? 00:00:00 puppet'
[00:21] <jeffreylevesque> how did i manage to get a puppet client on ubuntu, unless it comes with ubuntu by default
[00:21] <EriC^^> Captonjamason: did you boot the live usb?
[00:21] <Captonjamason> yes
[00:21] <Captonjamason> im working on it now
[00:21] <Ben64> jeffreylevesque: it doesn't come installed by default
[00:22] <jeffreylevesque> how did i get a puppet process when i did `ps -e`
[00:23] <Ben64> jeffreylevesque: no way for me to know that
[00:24] <hd1> the ec2 box from the other day is out of process memory
[00:24] <hd1> can I fix this short of a reboot?
[00:29] <tim_> hy all.. need some help setting up assaultcube .. got no servers :-S
[00:31] <daftykins> sounds like a game
[00:32] <Seven_Six_Two> if I have A record of abc.com at 1.2.3.4, and CNAME of sub1.abc.com at abc.com, can I do CNAME of sub1alias.abc.com at sub1.abc.com, so that the alias just forwards to the proper subdomain? I'm thinking for common mistypes, but don't want all non-existant subdomains to default to abc.com, as it's not the main domain on the server. I'm using Ubuntu.
[00:32] <daftykins> not an ubuntu query
[00:32] <daftykins> :>
[00:34] <Captonjamason> ...
[00:34] <royalaxe> runs on ubuntu...
[00:34] <Captonjamason> thanks you for helping me
[00:34] <Captonjamason> im talking on the computer i was fixing now
[00:34] <tim_> it shell run.. :-S
[00:34] <Ben64> Captonjamason: on the live cd or did you get the install working
[00:34] <Captonjamason> live cd
[00:35] <Ben64> Captonjamason: ok, then you're not done yet :)
[00:35] <Captonjamason> i (not kidding) would not have thought to use a live cd to fix my computer
[00:35] <Captonjamason> what Ban64
[00:35] <royalaxe> a live usb is better i reckon
[00:35] <Captonjamason> *Ben64
[00:35] <Ben64> its not fixed, you're just running a live version of ubuntu
[00:36] <Captonjamason> i meant i fixed my computer on the live version
[00:36] <Captonjamason> im right now on my fixed version Ben64
[00:36] <tim_> aa.. i see.. i misstyped..
[00:36] <Ben64> how did you fix it
[00:36] <tim_> preety please
[00:36] <Captonjamason> im already done fixing it
[00:36] <Ben64> Captonjamason: right, how
[00:36] <hans7665> ... i just got here - is this discussion related somehow to 15.04 ?
[00:36] <hd1> ugh
[00:36] <Ben64> hans7665: this is the ubuntu support channel
[00:37] <hans7665> yes.. but are ppl having trouble with upgrading ?
[00:37] <Ben64> hans7665: nope
[00:37] <hans7665> :) good
[00:37] <Captonjamason> ben64: the guy who gave me the link (sorry that i forgot your username) helped me
[00:37] <Captonjamason> the link was a bunch of commands that saved my computer
[00:38] <Ben64> Captonjamason: oh ok, cause last i saw you were trying to get the live cd booting, then you come back and you said its fixed, seemed weird
[00:38] <Captonjamason> and thanks to whoever gave me that link
[00:39] <Captonjamason> i got the live cd booted, then ran the commands and then restarted my computer and now im in 15.04 non live cd running fine
[00:40] <Captonjamason> Ben64: wafflejock (i think) gave me the link
[00:40] <Ben64> Captonjamason: sounds good
[00:40] <Captonjamason> well ill be back on to help i bit later tonight
[00:41] <EriC^^> Captonjamason: so you reinstalled grub?
[00:41] <Captonjamason> yes
[00:41] <EriC^^> ok
[00:41] <wafflejock> Captonjamason, cool glad to hear it
[00:41] <Captonjamason> it was you EriC that helped me
[00:41] <Captonjamason> honestly
[00:41] <EriC^^> no wafflejock did
[00:41] <Captonjamason> i cant remeber who gave me the link
[00:42] <Captonjamason> but whoever helped me out
[00:42] <Captonjamason> you get a hug
[00:42] <wafflejock> yeah no big deal I'm sure EriC^^ has helped me before too :) glad you got it sorted out though
[00:42] * Captonjamason hugs everbody who helped him out
[00:43] <Captonjamason> well il be back later tonight
[00:43] <Captonjamason> chow
[00:43] <tim_> hy all.. please help.. i need some help setting up assaultcube .. got no servers.. PLEASE :-(
[00:46] <nomic> anyone know why a virtualbox mount of nfs (from ubuntu) is "read only"
[00:47] <Captonjamason> i think this counts as later tonight
[00:47] <Captonjamason> i have a question
[00:47] <daftykins> ask it and press enter less
[00:48] <Captonjamason> what is that app that comes prebuilt on lubuntu that lets you set up im's
[00:48] <Captonjamason> i cant remeber what its called
[00:49] <Fleet> tim_: can you explain the problem a little more specifically?
[00:51] <amnesiak> Captonjamason: pidgin?
[00:51] <Captonjamason> thank you
[00:52] <JinjaNinja> Where and how could I install the driver to use the function keys on my keyboard? (For example: I'd like to turn up/down brightness, doing FN > F5 / F6
[00:53] <tim_> Fleet, i have downloaded the game from net, unpacked, tryed to run.. there was no *.exe :-) ok.. so i push file assaultcube.sh in terminal and the game started.. but when trying to play mutlyple did not find any servers :-S
[00:53] <Ben64> tim_: the game is in the ubuntu repositories
[00:54] <kostkon> !find assaultcube
[00:54] <Fleet> tim_: did you try the bottom option "Force master server update" ?
[00:54] <tim_> yes
[00:54] <Fleet> also, make sure whatever you downloaded is the current/correct version
[00:55] <tim_> both versions, one from ubuntu server.. and online -- no go
[00:55] <tim_> as well forcing
[00:55] <Fleet> do you use any sort of firewall application? or iptables?
[00:56] <Ben64> tim_: maybe there just aren't any servers up
[00:56] <laurentide> my server is running ubuntu. i'm building a website for a person on a subdomain, i want them to have an ftp account with read permissions for *only* that subdomain's directory. currently the user can edit everything although they have their own home directory.
[00:56] <tim_> ufw
[00:56] <kostkon> tim_, there's assaultcube-ng, try that
[00:56] <JinjaNinja> Is there any way I could get the function keys to work by installing a driver or something?
[00:56] <laurentide> *ubuntu 12.04
[00:56] <tim_> brb
[00:57] <Fleet> Ben64: there are servers, I see a whole list
[00:57] <Ben64> i see none
[00:57] <Fleet> version 1.2?
[00:58] <tim_> am .. shell i put this in terminal?
[00:58] <Ben64> the version on 14.04 is 1.1
[00:58] <Fleet> put what in the terminal?
[00:58] <Fleet> Ben64: the current version (at least the one I have) is 1.2
[00:59] <Ben64> well only the versions in the ubuntu repositories are supported
[00:59] <Fleet> tim_: check your version perhaps? Although if you downloaded it from the web, you should have the current one
[00:59] <tim_> yes.. latest..
[00:59] <Ben64> tim_: contact the developer for support
[00:59] <Captonjamason> in pidgen how would i set up freenode
[00:59] <Captonjamason> *pidgin
[01:00] <MikeRL> Anyone? I feel forgotten...
[01:00] <MikeRL> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/system-config-printer/+bug/1448351
[01:00] <tim_> i thought this are u guys
[01:00] <Ben64> MikeRL: can you stop posting that here...
[01:00] <Fleet> tim_: what's it say when you choose "Multiplayer > Join a Server" ?
[01:00] <MikeRL> Where to post it? All I want to know is if I did the report correctly.
[01:00] <Ben64> Captonjamason: add account -> irc -> irc.freenode.net
[01:00] <daftykins> tim_: er, nice english
[01:00] <Ben64> MikeRL: you'll find out when someone responds to it
[01:00] <MikeRL> Fine then. I mean if the report is complete.
[01:00] <laurentide> tim_: tri #pidgin
[01:01] <MikeRL> Not if it's going to be solved.
[01:01] <Fleet> laurentide: you mean Captonjamason
[01:01] <Ben64> MikeRL: if it requires more information, it will be asked of you
[01:01] <MikeRL> OK.
[01:01] <MikeRL> Thanks.
[01:01] <Captonjamason> thanks Ben64
[01:03] <tim_> it says.. connecting to assaultcubers.net.. and than a square shows up and green ping/ ...
[01:04] <Fleet> well, I have no notes....it's working fine for me :-\
[01:04] <Ben64> tim_: http://assault.cubers.net/irc.html ask them, its not on topic here
[01:05] <Fleet> their channel is #assaultcube on Gamesurge iirc
[01:05] <Ben64> nope, quake net
[01:06] <Fleet> ah, so it is
[01:06] <Fleet> guess I could've looked at my channel window :-\
[01:15] <ubuntu199> oi
[01:16] <gioans> hello
[01:16] <gioans> goodmorning
[01:16] <ubuntu199> instalei o ubuntu 15.04, mas ao fazer login volta a tela para o login e não inicia a área de trabalho. Ja tentei pelo terminal, porem não resolveu. Alguém pode me ajudar?
[01:16] <SuperLag> no do-release-upgrade yet?
[01:18] <kostkon> !br | ubuntu199
[01:18] <gioans> i am a new ubuntu
[01:19] <gioans> i uses ubuntu 15.04
[01:20] <Bashing-om> gioans: Great ! and your support qiestion is ?
[01:20] <gioans> sometime my ubuntu is crashes
[01:20] <cocoony> how do i install wine 1.7.30 on xubuntu
[01:20] <cocoony> alwazs get error
[01:20] <gioans> if i changed wifi, i didn't know anythings
[01:20] <daftykins> cocoony: which is?
[01:21] <ubotter> hi is it possible to hide or block dctp requests in pidgin messenger likes /dctp user version or finger?
[01:21] <cocoony> what zou mean
[01:21] <cocoony> you mean
[01:21] <cocoony> i want to install older wine version,because i want to install ableton live9
[01:22] <ubotter> bitwig cocoony :)
[01:22] <cocoony> dont like bitwig
[01:22] <daftykins> cocoony: not wise.
[01:22] <cocoony> one mioment
[01:22] <gioans> help me please!
[01:23] <TiK> with what?
[01:23] <promet> hi, upgraded to 15.04 and can't seem to reach a lightdm login, seems like an nvidia stumbling block, "system is operating in low graphic mode"
[01:23] <cocoony> https://appdb.winehq.org/objectManager.php?sClass=version&iId=27440
[01:23] <promet> the error log review seems pretty inconclusive, any thoughts?
[01:23] <gioans> sometime my ubuntu is crashes, ìf i change Wifi netwwork
[01:23] <ubotter> hi is it possible to hide or block dctp requests like /dctp user version or finger?
[01:24] <ubotter> in pidgin messenger
[01:24] <promet> I've tried switching between nouveau and proprietary, but no dice...
[01:24] <promet> drivers that is...
[01:24] <Bashing-om> promet: A proprietary graphics driver in use prior to the upgrade, and now that driver is broke ?
[01:24] <gioans> sometime my ubuntu is crashes, ìf i swtch Wifi netwwork
[01:25] <ubotter> nobooty use this messenger? cant believe :/
[01:25] <cpt_yossarian> ubotter: you can't block *requests*, you can block your responses
[01:25] <gioans> ubuntu version 15.04
[01:25] <ubotter> how cpt_yossarian?
[01:25] <cpt_yossarian> i don't know how pidgin does it, but in hexchat i can delete my CTCP replies
[01:25] <ubotter> oh cant i see :/
[01:25] <cpt_yossarian> i still see CTCP requests, but they don't get responded to automatically
[01:26] <promet> Bashing-om, I've uninstalled and reinstalled two separate prop. versions, and their uninstalls and reinstalls seemed to go cleanly
[01:26] <promet> So, maybe not
[01:26] <promet> Thanks very much for the reply though
[01:26] <cpt_yossarian> ubotter: a cursory search shows me that pidgin doesn't let you disable CTCP replies. maybe try another client?
[01:27] <promet> I few releases ago I had similar troubles and the culprit turned out to be Plymouth
[01:27] <promet> No one would know how to "safely" disable Plymouth in 15.04 by any chance?
[01:28] <promet> I searched for it's files and it seems like it's grown into a bit of a rat's nest...
[01:28] <cocoony> daftzkins> did someone have tested ableton in linux _ i see youtube video about it
[01:28] <Bashing-om> promet: I am not nuch help in that case, all I can suggest is to read the log files and see what you see for system reported errors .
[01:28] <cocoony> sorry mz keyboard is in us but i have german
[01:29] <promet> Bashing-om, no worries, thanks for your suggestions
[01:29] <gioans> I use version LTS 15:04 or 14:04?
[01:30] <gioans> I should be used 14.04 LTS or 15.04 ?
[01:30] <gioans> please give me some advice! thanks!
[01:31] <Bashing-om> promet: "low graphics mode" I generally think of as a graphics issue, Is the releated module loaded ( sudo lshw -C display) . and look at the log file " /vat/log/Xorg.0.log " see where these lead.
[01:31] <nixnoob> Hello Everyone!
[01:32] <cocoony> what about bitwig studio. ? windows has more vst plugins then linux
[01:33] <cocoony> where i get all the vsts in linux
[01:33] <SuperLag> should do-release-upgrade show a new distro yet/
[01:34] <ubotter> there is a plugin pack in the standard repo from can/ubuntu. why the devs have delete the spamprotect plugin? :|
[01:34] <ubotter> for pidgin
[01:35] <Captonjamason> will someone give me a link to edit a ubuntu iso without programs
[01:35] <wafflejock> SuperLag, if you set to upgrade to non-lts versions then yes
[01:36] <daftykins> Captonjamason: that's not possible
[01:36] <ubotter> noboddy ist online in the pidgin chat :( hope any can help me here in the official chat
[01:36] <wafflejock> Captonjamason, don't think there is really a bare install, you could install ubuntu server that doesn't have GUI tools by default but on a desktop that doesn't typically make much sense
[01:36] <Captonjamason> i need a program like UCK to customise?
[01:36] <gioans> hello
[01:37] <nixnoob> If any of you have some time to spare and wouldn't mind, I'm setting up a home lab using ubuntu for the first time right now using Ubuntu documentation and I'm streaming it to twitch. I'd appreciate any advice you can give me. If you'd like the link, let me know.
[01:37] <daftykins> mini.iso installs the bare essentials
[01:37] <Captonjamason> ive been planning on making a fork of ubuntu but to do so i need to customise the .iso
[01:37] <gioans> i want chose ubuntu 14.04 LTS and 15.04, please sent me advice!
[01:38] <daftykins> Captonjamason: sounds like the totally wrong way to approach that, to me.
[01:38] <Captonjamason> but uck and ubuntu builder doesnt work
[01:39] <daftykins> "doesn't work" is sadly not a very detailed description
[01:39] <wafflejock> SuperLag, you can change the settings in the "Software and Updates" panel in the Upgrades tab
[01:39] <mchelen> is there any way to adjust the monitor backlight brightness on a standard desktop monitor using only software?
[01:40] <Captonjamason> uck gives me a error that says that it cant find some isolinux program or something
[01:40] <daftykins> mchelen: no only special models support that
[01:40] <Captonjamason> and ubuntu builder just flat out after i customize wont boot
[01:40] <petrvs> mchelen: you can fake it on a software level
[01:40] <mchelen> daftykins: ah too bad, it would be a nice feature to have
[01:40] <wafflejock> gioans, LTS is good if you don't care about bleeding edge updates otherwise you need to upgrade every 6 months, for work machines and servers I stick with LTS personally, usually try out the in between versions from extra drives or in VMs
[01:40] <mchelen> petrvs: yeah i know, but the contrast or bleedthrough is always an issue
[01:41] <mchelen> petrvs: maybe if i could find an amoled desktop monitor :D
[01:41] <Ben64> Captonjamason: this is not the right channel for what you're doing, and there probably are enough ubuntu derivatives out there already
[01:41] <petrvs> <five years old is bleeding edge now?
[01:41] <petrvs> mchelen: mmm
[01:41] <petrvs> mchelen: try xcalib -i -a
[01:41] <petrvs> mchelen: or xcalib -a -green 1.0 0.0 75.0 -blue 1.0 0.0 50.0
[01:42] <mchelen> petrvs: its not installed, what does it do?
[01:42] <mchelen> oh gamma adjustment
[01:43] <petrvs> and -i inverts
[01:43] <gioans> i want to used only os for my laptop and i chosen Ubuntu, because ís friendly, easy suse and some application!
[01:44] <petrvs> gioans: gj
[01:44] <gioans> I am confused between versions
[01:44] <wafflejock> gioans, yeah from what I've seen in 15.04 it was mostly about the update to systemd, some small user interface changes but nothing major
[01:44] <wafflejock> !lts | gioans
[01:45] <wafflejock> gioans, oh thought that had the link with the charts too but long story short would recommend the LTS if you aren't using/needing anything in the absolute latest version
[01:45] <petrvs> gioans: the latest version is 15.04
[01:47] <gioans> yeah! now i used version 15.04. it is unstable trouble when switching wireless networks
[01:48] <gioans> sometimes crashes and must be restarted
[01:48] <wafflejock> gioans, mostly there were just some version bumps for things like LibreOffice and things for developers, from a regular user perspective you'll have generally more stability in 14.04 for now at least http://www.zdnet.com/article/hands-on-with-ubuntu-15-04/
[01:49] <mchelen> i heard there was going to be some improvement for touchscreen laptops, but idk if that actually happened?
[01:50] <wafflejock> mchelen, I believe the focus is currently on making Unity 8 being the "convergence" version that works across their phone and the desktop (and any tablets that may come out) haven't really tried linux with a touchscreen (not counting Android)
[01:50] <gioans> thanks! and i a question!
[01:50] <wafflejock> mchelen, but it's Unity 7.3 for 15.04 apparently
[01:51] <wafflejock> I did hear some exciting news about insanely good battery life with that recently though which does make me curious to try it
[01:51] <mchelen> wafflejock: ah ok, id really like to have multitouch work for browser zooming on my laptop
[01:53] <gioans> I lived in Vietnam and my proxy locked if i want access to foreign web, i am locking for application auto changing proxy, do you know it ?
[01:53] <wafflejock> mchelen, yeah I imagine that's going to have to be some combination of browser support and then the OS working with whatever the browsers provide
[01:54] <wafflejock> mchelen, I'm kind of surprised it wouldn't work in Chrome though they do have touch events in the browser I believe (that is distinguished from mouse events)
[01:55] <Craigwell> any thoughts out there on the best way to clone to a larger HDD? I have a USB enclosure for the new drive I can use until swap in.
[01:56] <Craigwell> I have 14.04(Ext4), Win7 (NTFS), Ubuntu Swap, and a Common FAT32 Partition. I expect to re-size them all after cloning or ghosting
[01:56] <wafflejock> gioans, not sure about that, you can change the proxy settings in the network settings manually but not sure what an automatic version of that would be doing exactly?
[01:56] <wafflejock> Craigwell, you end up trying clonezilla or just looking for suggestions still?
[01:56] <Craigwell> wafflejock: still just fishing
[01:57] <Craigwell> wafflejock: I probably wont try anything for a week or two
[01:57] <rahulprodev> Hi, I got 20 gb for /(*root), 400 gb from /home and 60 gb free, If I want to create extra partition in ubuntu Is it possible to create partition?
[01:57] <wafflejock> Craigwell, yeah good to get your bearings before doing something like that
[01:58] <mchelen> wafflejock: yeah i can swipe to scroll, but i dont think it can see more than 1 cursor point at a time
[01:58] <wafflejock> rahulprodev, yeah Gparted is the graphical utility for modifying your partitions, many times you end up running it from a LiveCD though so nothing is mounted while you're modifying it
[01:58] <Stanley00> rahulprodev: you can use gparted to do that, but sometime you can't because of your current mount point, try using live ubuntu cd/usb then
[01:58] <Craigwell> wafflejock: I'm not overly concerned about following the guides / resources you pointed out, I'm just in no rush, and curious about preferred methods of anyone who's been there.
[01:59] <rahulprodev> thanks wafflejock , Stanley00
[01:59] <wafflejock> mchelen, hmm appears it's hidden away in the labs settings in chrome maybe try this out http://www.itworld.com/article/2693355/how-to-make-google-chrome-work-better-with-touchscreen-pcs.html
[02:00] <wafflejock> Craigwell, yup makes sense, just haven't done it myself
[02:02] <Captonjamason> hey somebody on here
[02:03] <Captonjamason> my spotify wont launch
[02:03] <Captonjamason> and i just installed it
[02:03] <wafflejock> Captonjamason, try running it from the command line see if you get any error output in the terminal
[02:03] <mchelen> wafflejock: huh i just tried chromium w/o changing any settings, and pinch zoom worked!
[02:03] <wafflejock> mchelen, ah nice
[02:03] <mchelen> wafflejock: maybe it was included in a recent version
[02:04] <gioans> wafflejock : afflejock> gioans, not sure about that, you can change the proxy settings in the network settings manually but not sure what an automatic version of that would be doing exactly?
[02:04] <Captonjamason> how can i run it from the command line wafflejock
[02:04] <wafflejock> mchelen, yeah could easily be, I'm surprised they weren't more progressive about that with android and all though
[02:04] <Captonjamason> i tried typing spotify-client but it wouldnt work
[02:04] <gioans> wafflejock: i am sory
[02:05] <wafflejock> Captonjamason, can check what the Exec= is set as in /usr/share/applications there should be a spotify.desktop file somewhere in there
[02:05] <gioans> wafflejock: For me fickle, so the network manually convert complex
[02:05] <ubuntu199> não deu certo. :(
[02:05] <wafflejock> Captonjamason, can probably run, updatedb, then locate spotify.desktop (not positive about this name just a guess)
[02:05] <Captonjamason> ok
[02:05] <rahulprodev> wafflejock, Stanley00 , if i use gparted can i create another partition from /home partition, which is already created? or I need to use to free space.
[02:05] <Captonjamason> im not familiar with those commands wafflejock
[02:06] <mchelen> wafflejock: yeah i thought it would be farther along, i just ordered a touchscreen laptop w/o testing because it was the same price as w/o touchscreen
[02:06] <mk> How can I reset my display settings? I failed to install an ati driver for my HD5450 (my kernel is too new), and I've lost dualscreen and have the wrong resolution on my current monitor.
[02:06] <mchelen> wafflejock: but the support is a little uneven
[02:06] <gioans> wafflejock: i want edit one file on system, the same host of window
[02:06] <wafflejock> Captonjamason, updatedb just updates a local db for searching for files by name without knowing their path and locate will show you the path to the file
[02:06] <gioans> what i to do ?
[02:06] <Stanley00> rahulprodev: you'll need live ubuntu to do that
[02:07] <wafflejock> Captonjamason, once you have the .desktop file that's what Ubuntu uses to generate the listings for launching apps so if we can find the spotify one we can see what command it executes
[02:07] <rahulprodev> Stanley00, ok thanks.
[02:07] <Captonjamason> wafflejock: ok well then how do i use that command, im so sorry if it seems like im new to linux
[02:07] <wafflejock> Captonjamason, if we knew the path we can do "cat /usr/share/applications/spotify.desktop" and we would see the command it executes
[02:07] <ubuntu199> instalei o ubuntu 15.04, mas não faz login. Não consigo acessar a área de trabalho. Alguém pode me ajudar?
[02:08] <wafflejock> Captonjamason, no worries, do updatedb first in a terminal
[02:08] <Captonjamason> not there
[02:08] <Captonjamason> wait
[02:08] <Captonjamason> found it
[02:08] <Captonjamason> a quick search in file manager found it
[02:08] <wafflejock> Captonjamason, ah cool k so if you can just open that .desktop file in a text editor it'll have a line that says Exec = something here
[02:09] <wafflejock> Captonjamason, whatever is something here is the executable name just run that from a terminal and see if you get any error output
[02:09] <Captonjamason> i cant open it
[02:09] <wafflejock> Captonjamason, k you know the path from what you see?
[02:09] <Captonjamason> yep
[02:09] <wafflejock> Captonjamason, just type, cat /path/to/file/here.desktop
[02:09] <wafflejock> in a terminal and it'll show you the contents
[02:10] <wafflejock> might really want cat /path/to/file/here.desktop | grep Exec
[02:10] <wafflejock> that way it outputs the file contents and finds the line with Exec in case it's a big desktop file
[02:11] <Captonjamason> Exec=spotify %U
[02:11] <Captonjamason> what do i do with this
[02:12] <wafflejock> Captonjamason, k yah so the command should just be spotify, %U I'm not sure about my guess off hand would be username but not sure
[02:12] <wafflejock> can try "man spotify", to see if it has a manual page to explain what the arguments are that it takes
[02:12] <Captonjamason> captonjamason@captonjamason-X551MA:~$ spotify
[02:12] <Captonjamason> spotify: error while loading shared libraries: libgcrypt.so.11: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[02:12] <wafflejock> Captonjamason, okay looks like missing dependency
[02:12] <Captonjamason> thats what it gave me
[02:13] <Captonjamason> i installed it from there rep so it shouldnt have one
[02:13] <wafflejock> Captonjamason, http://www.webupd8.org/2015/04/fix-missing-libgcrypt11-causing-spotify.html
[02:13] <wafflejock> Captonjamason, generally not good to install PPAs but this does look like your problem probably
[02:14] <Captonjamason> ok
[02:14] <Captonjamason> and the only way to install spotify is through there ppa
[02:15] <wafflejock> Captonjamason, it looks like that might be the case right now, if this is something critical it'll probably get patched in 15.04 soon but I'm not privvy to any of that detail
[02:15] <Captonjamason> i think it is
[02:15] <Captonjamason> im installing what it needs
[02:15] <Captonjamason> then we should be all set
[02:16] <Captonjamason> it fired right up
[02:16] <wafflejock> cool
[02:16] <Captonjamason> thanks wafflejock
[02:16] <wafflejock> np
[02:16] <Captonjamason> now i have my music
[02:17] <mk> How can I reset my display settings to defaults? I failed to install an ati driver for my HD5450 (my kernel is too new), and I've lost dualscreen and have the wrong resolution on my current monitor.
[02:18] <wafflejock> mk, if you installed the drivers manually there probably isn't a totally trivial way to go back, you can remove the kernel modules that are loaded, did you use the GUI (jockey) for adding additional drivers or manually install?
[02:20] <Switches> If you used the installer from the ATI site you should be able to do the same command in terminal as you did to install it but add a "-u" to uninstall, that should also remove the "radeon" driver from the blacklist
[02:21] <mk> wafflejock: I used the additional drivers tool, switching from xorg xserver to proprietary amd graphics
[02:22] <wafflejock> mk, you should be able to just switch back in the same interface in that case
[02:22] <mk> I also tried a couple of installers from ati, but I think they both failed.
[02:23] <mk> wafflejock: I've switched back (and back again), but my screen is stuck on 1 monitor 1400x1050
[02:24] <wafflejock> mk do lspci -k, and show the lines for your graphics card specifically the kernel module loaded is the important part
[02:25] <rahulprodev> Is totem got new look :)
[02:26] <rahulprodev> I like it :)
[02:26] <mk> 02:00.0 VGA compatible controller: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD/ATI] Park [Mobility Radeon HD 5430] Subsystem: Hightech Information System Ltd. Caicos [Radeon HD 5450]
[02:27] <mk> Is that sufficient?
[02:28] <wafflejock> mk, think a few lines below that if you have the -k flag it should show the module name that's loaded too like Kernel drive in use: something here
[02:28] <wafflejock> driver*
[02:32] <mk> I see nothing relevant http://pastebin.com/gekEq6mL
[02:35] <wafflejock> mk okay well you aren't crazy but I must be wrong here, it does show for my intel graphics chipset that it's using i915 but not seeing it here either
[02:36] <wafflejock> mk you can try lsmod, to list the modules loaded but it's going to be a big list and not sure what the ati drivers would be called in there, perhaps Switches er someone else can chime in
[02:38] <mk> wafflejock: http://pastebin.com/hBntmrT7
[02:39] <Switches> the kernel module for AMD cards is fglrx
[02:40] <rockstar_> anybody knows how to highlight pdf in Ubuntu, then make it visible in Windows too?
[02:41] <Switches> It looks to me like the radeon driver is still blacklisted so it can't or won't load it. If you tryed the drivers from the amd site try the command you used to install them (should be able to get to it from using the up/down keys in terminal) with a -u at the end.
[02:42] <administrador> Hello. Is Ubuntu 15.04 a LTS?
[02:42] <Ben64> no
[02:42] <administrador> oh...
[02:42] <Switches> mk: the command should be something like "./amd-<driver version>.sh"
[02:43] <administrador> When is another LTS coming out?
[02:43] <Switches> mk: You said the kernel was too new right? so im guessing you're using 15.04?
[02:43] <wafflejock> administrador, 16.04 should be LTS, every 2 yrs typically
[02:43] <rking> Anybody watching the game?
[02:44] <rking> @administrador, Is there a new package or something you want? or just a question?
[02:45] <administrador> rking, I was trying to compile UE4 and it didnt work, I just wanted to try the latest
[02:46] <mk> Switches: uname -r returns 3.13.0-44-generic
[02:46] <rking> Ah I gotcha.
[02:46] <Switches> hmm 14.04 then
[02:48] <Switches> mk: not sure why its telling you the kernel is to new, the driver from AMD supports upto kernel 3.16 without patchs and 3.19 (ubuntus latest) with a patch. This isn't a switchable GPU like the Nvidia optimus?
[02:53] <mk> Switches: it's an ati HD 5450. I downloaded and ran `./amd-driver-installer-14.501.1003-x86.x86_64.run`, popup said "install required pre-reqs, see log", log said fglrx installation requires that the system has kernel headers for 3.7 release. /lib/modules/3.13.0-44-generic/build/include/generated/uapi/linux/version.h cannot be found on this system.
[02:53] <mk> Install kernel headers using the command apt-get install linux-headers-3.13.0-44-generic.
[02:55] <Switches> mk: Try doing "./amd-driver-installer-14.501.1003-x86.x86_64.run -u" see if it throws an error saying fglrx not found
[02:56] <MrPenguin_> Could someone tell me the overall differences between xubuntu and ubuntu?
[02:57] <Switches> MrPenguin_: Basically the user interface, xubuntu uses XFCE, ubuntu uses Unity
[02:57] <deadmund> MrPenguin_: Only the default packages that are installed. xubuntu has XFCE DE installed by default, ubuntu has unity. That is all.
[02:57] <MrPenguin_> Which one runs better on high performance hardware?
[02:58] <pavlos> both
[02:58] <rking> @MrPenguin_ any DE will run great on high performance machines.
[02:59] <rking> Unless your running really low end machines, DE's are entirely preference.
[02:59] <MrPenguin_> :)
[03:00] <deadmund> MrPenguin_: They run the same on "high performance" hardware.
[03:00] <mk> Switches: "The AMD Catalyst(TM) Proprietary Linux(R) graphics driver cannot be uninstalled using the above command for the current Linux distribution. If you installed the driver using the Debian package management system, you must uninstall it using the command dpkg -r fglrx-dev fglrx-amdcccle fglrx."
[03:00] <mk> I did try installing it using the software centre earlier
[03:01] <MrPenguin_> i like the xubuntu interface, just didn't know that it performed well on high performance hardware thanks for the info
[03:01] <mk> I don't recall the outcome, but fglrx has an "install" button in the software centre now, so it looks like it's not installed...
[03:02] <Switches> mk: hmm so you didn't do a manual install, try the dpkg commands it gives see if it clears anything out
[03:03] <mk> dpkg: warning: ignoring request to remove fglrx-dev which isn't installed [...] fglrx-amdcccle which isn't installed [...] dpkg: warning: ignoring request to remove fglrx, only the config
[03:03] <mk> files of which are on the system; use --purge to remove them too
[03:04] <mk> Switches: all the manual installs appeared to fail, so that seems correct
[03:05] <mojtaba> Hi, I have multiple ssh keys and I want to manage my keys. I create the file ~/.ssh/config containing: http://paste.ubuntu.com/10883175/
[03:05] <mojtaba> But when I try to ssh, it gives this error: line 3: Bad configuration option: identifyfile.
[03:05] <mk> might this be an issue with one of my standard graphics config files being messed up?
[03:05] <mojtaba> I am sure about the private key, though.
[03:05] <mk> where are the screen resolutions usually stored?
[03:06] <Switches> mk: Thats what I'm thinking, the resolutions are normally stored in /etc/X11/Xorg.conf
[03:06] <zero_coder> hello, how can i install this package http://packages.ubuntu.com/utopic/lib32bz2-1.0
[03:06] <zero_coder> ?
[03:07] <Switches> mk: Also have a look in the file /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist to see if the "radeon" module has been placed there.
[03:07] <mk> Switches: sudo gedit /etc/X11/Xorg.conf shows a blank file
[03:07] <wafflejock> mojtaba, you try with a full path instead of ~
[03:07] <wafflejock> mojtaba, have typically just use ssh -i keyname user@server to connect with a different private key myself
[03:08] <deadmund> zero_coder: sudo apt-get install lib32bz2-1.0
[03:08] <deadmund> zero_coder: What are you looking for that package to do for you?
[03:09] <mojtaba> wafflejock: thx
[03:09] <Toxygene> I'm trying to get Windows 7/Ubuntu 15.04 dual boot working. I installed Windows 7, then installed Ubuntu 15.04, but I'm not getting the boot menu when I reset.
[03:10] <mk> blacklist also shows a blank file. Neither one exists. But, er, /etc/X11/xorg.conf exists (lowercase), as well as a .failsafe and .original-0
[03:10] <deadmund> Toxygene: What happens when you boot the computer?
[03:10] <zero_coder> deadmund, nope its not available in vivid.
[03:10] <zero_coder> deadmund, android studio needs it.
[03:10] <Toxygene> deadmund, it goes straight to windows 7
[03:10] <Switches> mk: hmm try reading the xorg.conf see what that says
[03:10] <deadmund> zero_coder: Oh, sorry didn't realize you're trying to install something from a different repo.
[03:10] <deadmund> zero_coder: mmmm, let me see about that....
[03:11] <mk> Switches: http://pastebin.com/ydvutUSh xorg.conf contents
[03:12] <zero_coder> deadmund, can i just download it and install using package manager? it wont break anything , right?
[03:12] <deadmund> zero_coder: I don't know if it will break anything. I suspect it will "work" though.
[03:13] <Switches> mk: Ok theres half the problem, thats still the xorg.conf for the ATI card. You could try doing "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg"
[03:13] <deadmund> zero_coder: But I really don't know. There may be a more prudent way to do it, by adding the previous release's repos to your sources.lst Also this: http://www.howtogeek.com/117929/how-to-downgrade-packages-on-ubuntu/
[03:13] <mk> Done, no output. Should I reboot?
[03:13] <deadmund> Toxygene: When you installed Ubuntu, do you remember any choice to install the bootloader? Do you have more than one HDD on this machine?
[03:13] <Switches> mk: You may need to reboot for it to settle it
[03:14] <mk> xorg.conf appears unchanged
[03:14] <deadmund> Toxygene: I suggest you re-launch the ubuntu installer and just try it again. But, you'll have to be more careful with the partitioning this time. I would choose manual "do something else" and make sure the partitioning makes sense.
[03:14] <Toxygene> It didn't mention anything about a bootloader, there was just a visual buide to resize the HD to make an Ubuntu partition. There are multiple hard drives.
[03:14] <Switches> mk: hmm
[03:14] <zero_coder> deadmund, thanks mate :)
[03:15] <deadmund> Toxygene: ok, pause on that re-trying the installer. Which HDD has ubuntu on and which has windows?
[03:15] <Toxygene> deadmund, they're both on the same HD
[03:16] <mk> My former card was an nvidea, it died. I installed this ATI HD5450. Dualscreen, resolution fine. Decided to try upgrading the driver (or something?) yesterday, it's been one-screen weird resolution since then.
[03:16] <Toxygene> It was definitely installling onto the right hard drive; it mentioned windows specifically and wanted me to resize the main partition so they was room for ubuntu.
[03:17] <Toxygene> Maybe I need to get a terminal window open and manually setup grub?
[03:17] <Switches> mk: Try deleting the xorg.conf you found, restart the computer (should for the Xserver to create a new one).
[03:17] <Switches> ]
[03:17] <Switches> oops
[03:17] <deadmund> Toxygene: How can you get a terminal open if you boot straight to windows?
[03:18] <deadmund> Toxygene: I guess we can install grub manually (but it's not the easiest thing to do).
[03:18] <Switches> That was meant to be "force the Xserver" man i need to sleep
[03:18] <Toxygene> yea, I think I'd have to boot off the ISO, mount the drive, chroot, ect
[03:18] <Toxygene> meh
[03:18] <deadmund> Toxygene: Here are some instructions: http://howtoubuntu.org/how-to-repair-restore-reinstall-grub-2-with-a-ubuntu-live-cd
[03:19] <mk> Rebooting.
[03:19] <Toxygene> haha, yup, we're on the same wavelength
[03:19] <deadmund> Toxygene: Didn't realize you were so well versed! (chroot no less!) I'm very surprised the installer did not properly set up grub. usually, at the partition step, there is an option and by default it will install grub. Maybe it was pointing to the wrong HDD (since you have several)
[03:19] <Toxygene> Yea, I use to do this all the time back when I used Gentoo a decade ago.
[03:20] <Toxygene> But the hassle is exactly why I switched to Ubuntu :)
[03:20] <Toxygene> Alright, thanks for you help!
[03:20] <deadmund> Toxygene: things have changed a lot since then, we have compiz now ;)
[03:21] <deadmund> Toxygene: Also, 2005, 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012, 2013, and 2014 were all "the year of linux on the desktop" so things are OBVIOUSLY a lot different now.
[03:21] <deadmund> Cause 2015 is the REAL year of linux on the desktop.
[03:21] <Toxygene> hahaha
[03:21] <deadmund> :P
[03:21] <mk> Switches: still the same...
[03:21] <kioskuser> 2012
[03:21] <Toxygene> I love telling the mac people at work that it's the year of linux on the desktop
[03:21] <Toxygene> the look i get
[03:21] <Toxygene> classic
[03:21] <mk> up arrow does not show command history from last terminal session, how can I reenable?
[03:22] <mk> xorg.conf was not recreated, that file does not exist
[03:23] <Switches> mk: Bah, it's got me at a loss then, never had an AMD card be this bad..
[03:24] <wafflejock> mk, bash stores your history of commands in ~/.bash_history pretty sure when you up arrow it's just using that list
[03:24] <Switches> mk: Worst part is mine actually runs the same HD5450 with no issues, has done for the last 6 or more years lol
[03:24] <mk> Switches: haha
[03:25] <deadmund> mk: does the "fc" command work??
[03:25] <mk> "bash: fc: history specification out of range"
[03:25] <Switches> mk: I've had issues like this with the legacy cards (older non HD ones) but never had this with a HD.. even the new R285 I have works ok with the AMD drivers
[03:26] <mk> is there any way to install some sort of safe driver?
[03:26] <mk> or instead of trying to revert, what new driver can I try to install to make it all work?
[03:27] <Switches> Well thats what all this we been doing should have done :p, I guess you could try opening up "jockey" and telling it to use the fglrx-upgrades" and see if that works
[03:27] <wafflejock> mk if you boot with nomodeset in the boot params it uses the vesa driver which is basically the fallback/safety driver if things go wrong but doesn't give you any hardware specific features/acceleration
[03:27] <mk> Switches: "Unable to locate package jockey" ?
[03:28] <Switches> mk: meh it should be the Additional Drivers in the menu
[03:28] <mk> Switches: I did try -upgrades before
[03:29] <mk> ok, 1 prop driver in use, closing this thing and... rebooting?
[03:30] <Switches> mk: yep and fingers, toes and whatever else you can cross, crossed
[03:33] <ranga> hello
[03:37] <deadmund> ranga: hello
[03:37] <mk> Switches: video still broken
[03:38] <ranga> -> deadmund hi
hi
[03:38] <Switches> mk: Sorry then matey, I ain't got a clue what its doing.
[03:39] <mk> the card worked fine before, even without the drivers... I suspect that simply reinstalling ubuntu will fix everything, so it seems there should be a way to reset to default
[03:39] <mk> Switches: ok, I'll keep at it for a bit. Thanks a ton for your help :)
[03:39] <Switches> mk: well thats what dpkg--reconfigure is meant to do
[03:40] <luaboy> why can not I connect to remote server at 445 port?
[03:40] <luaboy> why can not I connect to remote server at 445 port?
[03:40] <Switches> mk: No worries, just shame we couldn't get it totally fixed
[03:40] <luaboy> the server is listening at 445
[03:50] <wafflejock> luaboy, you can try nmap to see what ports are open from a client perspective, perhaps firewall problems
[03:51] <wafflejock> luaboy, on the server can run sudo netstat -tulnp, to verify the process is using that port that you expect
[03:57] <cristian> #pyar
[04:04] <asarch> How can I know the list of loaded modules in lighttpd?
[04:21] <Haxxa> Hey does anyone know whether you can change the position of the Minimize-Maximize-Close Buttons in Ubuntu 15.04 to the left or if thy are locked, if I can't move them I will not install 15.04 unfortunatley...
[04:23] <whallz> is there a channel for the awesome wm?
[04:27] <luaboy> wafflejock:the 445 port is running
[04:30] <wafflejock> Haxxa, pretty sure there is an option in the appearance panel that lets you change the position of the buttons but I tried on a liveUSB and it didn't seem to pay attention to me changing the setting and couldn't cleanly restart the interface without things blowing up in the live USB environment, so guess yes it's there, but I'm not sure if it's working
[04:31] <Haxxa> wafflejock, just checked apparently no - As I wrote in technical details, Canonical hardcoded buttons position in their Unity plugin. Changing of this needs this plugin to be patched by some third-party programmers. As for now such a patch is not available
[04:31] <Haxxa> They deliberately hardcoded buttons position on the left side and do not expose any position switch to the user, in order to maintain "consistent user experience", as they call it
[04:32] <rabaprodev> ubuntu 15.04 youtube videos working more smoothly.. :D :)
[04:36] <wafflejock> Haxxa, hmm yeah that's a bummer, as little as it is that and the menus being hidden and in the top bar got me looking at and using KDE for a while and now using Gnome, still happy with the Ubuntu base though
[04:45] <skierpage> My Kubuntu dist-upgrade to 15.04 has hung during configuration step. The install dialog window isn't updating, the last thing in it was "Configuring libgtk-3-0 (amd64)"
[04:46] <skierpage> the log /var/log/dist-upgrade/main.log has a Python traceback from DistUpgradeViewKDE.py,
[04:46] <shubham> How to upgrade ubuntu 14.04 to 15.04?
[04:46] <skierpage> , line 339, in conffile self.confDialogue.show_difference_button.clicked.connect(self.showConffile())
[04:47] <cfhowlett> shubham, clean install 15.04
[04:47] <cfhowlett> shubham, o04r 14.04 > 14.10 > 15.
[04:48] <shubham> cfhowlett, Should I write clean install 15.04 in terminal?
[04:48] <skierpage> and apt-term.log indicates it's trying to ask me what to do about "Configuration file '/etc/gtk-3.0/settings.ini"
[04:48] <cfhowlett> shubham, no. get 15.04 .iso. make a boot usb. boot and install
[04:48] <shubham> Okay
[04:49] <shubham> Thanks :)
[04:49] <cfhowlett> shubham, happy2help!
[04:49] <Captonjamason> :\
[04:49] <skierpage> shubham or if you want to do two upgrades in a row, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UtopicUpgrades
[04:50] <skierpage> So I wonder how I can repeat the 15.04 upgrade configuration step from the command-line
[04:52] <jedininjaRob> hey guys in ubuntu how to do i bin a hot key to run a script file?
[04:52] <skierpage> this particular bug is https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=345579 but the resolution there is "Please report installer issues to the bug tracker of your distribution"
[04:56] <Mneuro> Is there a way to reduce screen tearing in Ubuntu Mate 15.04?
[04:56] <Mneuro> I have tried both marco and compiz compositors
[05:02] <skierpage> so I'll report the bug, but how do I recover from a partly completed upgrade? Can I run a command-line tool?
[05:04] <skierpage> answering myself, guess I can run `sudo apt-get upgrade` and maybe it'll figure out what was left to do
[05:07] <Mneuro> skierpage yea you should be able to do apt-get update and then apt-get upgrade
[05:07] <Mneuro> it should finish the update
[05:08] <Bashing-om> skierpage: How far did you get in the upgrade process ? Is 15.05 partitially installed ? ' cat /etc/apt/sources.list ' is "utopic" the topic ?
[05:08] <skierpage> Mneuro: thanks, I'll try it. It was sooo close, "About 4 minutes remaining" in the dialog :-/
[05:09] <skierpage> Bashing-om: I'm not sure what "topic" is, but the lines mention vivid, e.g. "deb http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ vivid main restricted"
[05:10] <skierpage> the upgrade had downloaded everything, reported all the packages it was going to configure, and was about 90+% through it
[05:12] <Bashing-om> skierpage: Then maybe . Try ' sudo apt-get update ; sudo apt-get upgrade ; sudo apt-get dist-upgrade ; sudo apt-get -f install ; dpkg --configure ' .
[05:13] <darthanubis> ubuntu installer crashes in virtualbox
[05:42] <mdvl> Is there a way to pin a link to the launcher so I can easily access folders?
[05:43] <prakhnigs> G
[05:46] <ivanafk> .iset
[05:47] <jedininjaRob> hey how to do set a hot key to a scrip file in ubuntu?
[05:50] <HighElf> Hello anyone?
[05:51] <cfhowlett> !ask | HighElf
[05:52] <HighElf> I have installed Ubuntu MATE and would like to get some working themes. I downloaded themes and installed from given link but installed themes wont sow up
[05:56] <Fingel> liking 15.04 very much, thanks devs
[05:58] <HighElf> No Answer?
[05:59] <raphus> ive never used mate, mate .. sorry
[05:59] <raphus> but if you think mate is ugly (like i think most of the people do), why did you choose it=
[06:01] <HighElf> I never said it is ugly, Unity is so attached to the left side and dosent even allow me to shift the launcher to bottom or anywhere. It is so bad not allowing customization
[06:01] <Fingel> are you a HighElf as in not a Dark Elf or a Wood Elf or are you a Weed Elf?
[06:02] <HighElf> I am not from Valen Wood
[06:02] <raphus> xD
[06:02] <HighElf> Neither dark marshy lands.
[06:03] <raphus> teldrassil?
[06:03] <HighElf> Also I don't smoke Marijuana
[06:03] <HighElf> Nope.
[06:03] <Fingel> Detroit?
[06:03] <raphus> xD
[06:04] <HighElf> HighElves keep their natives secret. Although we have strong connection to Magicka
[06:04] <Fingel> Felwithe or Faydwer for sure
[06:06] <HighElf> Dwemers are extinct
[06:20] <myndzi> i'm getting spammed with ssh login attempts; i tried blocking the address with 'ufw deny from a.b.c.0/24'
[06:20] <myndzi> but they're still coming through
[06:20] <myndzi> any idea why this would be?
[06:20] <somsip> myndzi: ssh is on 22
[06:24] <DF3D2> hey I set up a new ubuntu 15.04 install (in a VM) and I cant seem to mount my samba share, works fine on the windows host though. it just says "bad" super block and dmesg says this: [ 3241.843184] Status code returned 0xc0000001 NT_STATUS_UNSUCCESSFUL
[06:24] <DF3D2> [ 3241.843193] CIFS VFS: Send error in SessSetup = -5
[06:24] <DF3D2> [ 3241.843372] CIFS VFS: cifs_mount failed w/return code = -5
[06:27] <lotuspsychje> DF3D2: maybe this can help? https://github.com/gboudreau/Greyhole/issues/107
[06:30] <DF3D2> lotuspsychje, restarting the samba server process worked
[06:30] <DF3D2> lol
[06:30] <DF3D2> some times it's the simplest answer
[06:30] <lotuspsychje> !yay | DF3D2
[06:38] <BBLLCC> do you recommend to upgrade to 15.04?
[06:39] <lotuspsychje> BBLLCC: depends if you wanna upgrade every 9 months
[06:40] <lotuspsychje> BBLLCC: you can also stick on LTS for more stable enviroment
[06:57] <vonsyd0w> you can type "lsblk" to list partitions and just use the mount command as root to mount it. You don't need /etc/fstab to mount anything
[06:59] <LeeenDah> eh?
[07:00] <keevitaja> In the Land of Linux: during the silent nights we can hear windwos machines rebooting
[07:02] <raphus> xD
[07:04] <linuxuz3r> hi whats a good way to back up home directory
[07:06] <zotherstupidguy> does anyone knows what's linus favourite terminal emulator??? it is an interview question which i failed to answer!
[07:08] <skierpage> LeeenDah: if the partition you want to access is /dev/sdXX, then `mkdir /tmp/tempmount; mount /dev/sdXX /tmp/tempmount`
[07:09] <skierpage> I mean `sudo mount ...`
[07:09] <raphus> @zotherstupidguy i thing terminator. its slim customizable and you have as many terminals as you like
[07:10] <weakcamel> hello, all
[07:10] <LeeenDah> skierpage: cool. thanks.
[07:11] <prashant_> Hello all have you tried anyone ubuntu 15.04
[07:12] <LeeenDah> skierpage: but then how do I tell "mount -a" to use "/tmp/tmpmount/etc/fstab" to mount the rest of the partitions?
[07:12] <weakcamel> I'm looking for tips on ralink drivers; after upgrade to 15.04 the rt61pci driver keeps losing connection
[07:12] <vonsyd0w> dont use fstab at all. mount them manually
[07:13] <weakcamel> do you guys/gals have any advice other than ndiswrapper?
[07:15] <LeeenDah> vonsyd0w: why manually? it's at least 12 partitions!
[07:16] <skierpage> LeeenDah: well, you could `sudo ln -s /tmp/tmpmount/etc/fstab /etc/fstab` so that mount -a "works", but that *isn't* what you want. You already have a root on the live USB. You can only mount the partitions that don't conflict with the live USB.
[07:16] <wub_wub> does anyone have any idea what could be wrong here during the startup: http://i.imgur.com/lIHz9ns.jpg ?
[07:17] <LeeenDah> i'm not gonna mount 12 partitions manually on every reboot. I could reboot 10 times a day if i'm testing something.
[07:17] <weakcamel> prashant_ I've upgraded to 15.04 and I have issues with my wifi driver
[07:18] <raphus> @LeeenDah why dont you write an alis for mounting in $HOME/.bashrc
[07:18] <raphus> *alias
[07:19] <skierpage> LeeenDah: I dunno if the live USB has an /etc/fstab that you can modify that will survive a reboot. If it does, then you can append lines from your hard drive's /etc/fstab to it. Otherwise, what raphus says.
[07:19] <vonsyd0w> raphus, thats a good idea or just a separate bash script. write once, run whenever you need it
[07:19] <mehdi> hey guys why terminator crashes alot in ubuntu but not in debian?
[07:20] <raphus> @mehdi i use terminator every day in ubuntu 14.04 and it NEVER crashed
[07:20] <LeeenDah> ok; raphus' makes sense.
[07:20] <LeeenDah> Thanks guys. 'preciate it.
[07:21] <mehdi> raphus, then why mine crashes? at the beginning it happened many time but after some updates it becomes less but today i was in the middle of something important and it crashes, BTW how many tabs do you open?
[07:22] <lotuspsychje> wub_wub: maybe try a no_acpi boot or nomodeset
[07:22] <cristian> join /pyar
[07:22] <lotuspsychje> !nomodeset | wub_wub
[07:22] <raphus> @mehdi not more than 4 ... for quick operations i use guake-terminal
[07:23] <stomanata> Hi
[07:23] <stomanata> On my ubuntu i want to cut video. In Vlc i click on record. Where goes video as default when i click again on record?
[07:23] <wub_wub> lotuspsychje, you think it's graphic card related?
[07:23] <mehdi> raphus, well i open more than 4 and all of them are atleast splited in 2
[07:23] <lotuspsychje> wub_wub: not sure, that light error sounds more an acpi.. you can try both
[07:24] <raphus> @mehdi wtf what do you do with all those terminals? ^^
[07:24] <lotuspsychje> stomanata: you can set your own dir in options
[07:24] <lotuspsychje> stomanata: use whereis filename from terminal
[07:24] <weakcamel> I'm looking for tips on ralink drivers; after upgrade to 15.04 the rt61pci driver keeps losing connection - can you advise?
[07:24] <raphus> @mehdi back-on-topic: i would suggest talking either to the devs of terminator or run multiple instances with max 4 terminals each
[07:25] <stomanata> Where is this in options?
[07:25] <lotuspsychje> !ralink | weakcamel
[07:25] <mehdi> raphus, tanx
[07:25] <stomanata> I don`t know filename
[07:25] <vonsyd0w> mehdi, tmux is an option as well
[07:25] <lotuspsychje> stomanata: options, where screenshots and video's are stored
[07:25] <vonsyd0w> or byobu which is somewhat easier
[07:26] <vonsyd0w> and built on tmux
[07:26] <lotuspsychje> stomanata: you can try the #videolan guys also
[07:26] <vonsyd0w> thats what i use
[07:26] <weakcamel> thanks :) will have a look
[07:26] <mehdi> vonsyd0w, that's really nerdish terminal :D terminator is very easy to use
[07:26] <stomanata> Thank you
[07:26] <stomanata> Yes. I`m there :)
[07:26] <lotuspsychje> weakcamel: it might need a firmware update, did you install ubuntu with cable+ updates?
[07:28] <weakcamel> lotuspsychje: sorry, I'm Ubuntu newbie :) just switched from Fedora ... cable+ ?
[07:28] <lotuspsychje> weakcamel: did you set an eth0 cable in your machine to install ubuntu and updates enabled during setup?
[07:28] <weakcamel> I ran full update from universe/multiverse/restricted
[07:29] <weakcamel> oh :) nope, upgraded over wifi, issues started after the reboot - I get connection for a few minutes and then lose it
[07:29] <lotuspsychje> k
[07:29] <weakcamel> I need to rmmod + modprobe to get it back for a while
[07:33] <weakcamel> lotuspsychje: saw my problem on 15.04 beta and guys solved it with ndiswrapper... not really what I'd love to do though :-/ https://ubuntu-mate.community/t/solved-ralink-rt2561-rt61-wifi-problem-15-04-beta2/828
[07:37] <cihat> Hi, I made clean install 15.04 64bit and now at every boot filesystem checking works. I tried tune2fs to set 20 mount but still it works at every boot. ant idea?
[07:38] <skierpage> BTW folks, regarding my Kubuntu 15.04 upgrade hang: I reported https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubuntu-release-upgrader/+bug/1448380
[07:39] <weakcamel> ouch, got disconnected again
[07:39] * weakcamel grumpy
[07:40] <skierpage> and when I manually ran `sudo apt-get update`, it detected "E: dpkg was interrupted, you must manually run 'sudo dpkg --configure -a' to correct the problem.", and when I ran that the command-line completed configuring the 15.04 packages \o/
[07:45] <Jack64> hey guys, I'm trying to get the .deb for libtins1 and libtins-dev. compiling from source breaks the program that depends on it, so I need to grab the .deb for those 2 libs. how can I do that?
[07:46] <Jack64> btw, I've checked, and if I apt-get the packages it all runs smoothly
[07:46] <Ben64> Jack64: so apt-get them?
[07:46] * skierpage reboots
[07:46] <Jack64> yea I know but I need to send those .debs to kali
[07:47] <Ben64> kali isn't supported here
[07:47] <Jack64> I understand but I asked an ubuntu question, I need the .deb packages.
[07:47] <Jack64> .deb files
[07:47] <bazhang> packages.ubuntu.com Jack64
[07:47] <Ben64> you're asking a kali question, they have their own support, you should ask there. using packages made for other distributions is not a great idea
[07:48] <Jack64> yea I know but there is currently no other way
[07:48] <Jack64> bazhang: thank you I'll check if they have it there
[07:48] <bazhang> they do
[07:48] <Jack64> found it :) thanks so much
[07:54] <weakcamel> lotuspsychje: browsing from the URL you gave me, I found an advice to disable fwlps for the network driver... I did and so far, so good
[07:55] <lotuspsychje> !yay | weakcamel
[07:55] <madjoe> My new Ubuntu 15.04 suddenly throws TER environment not set error for the .profile file... How could I fix it?
[07:55] <madjoe> when I 'echo $TERM' it outputs xterm.
[07:56] <madjoe> TERM^^
[07:56] <weakcamel> lotuspsychje: I wouldn't without you :) thx a lot
[07:57] <lotuspsychje> np
[08:04] <bhangota> */
[08:04] <bhangota> \
[08:23] <cihat> Hi, I made clean install 15.04 64bit and now at every boot filesystem checking works. I tried tune2fs to set 20 mount but still it works at every boot. ant idea?
[08:24] <brainwash> cihat: check journalctl for related log messages
[08:26] <mac33> hi to all
[08:27] <phiona> i was able to open the cdrom drive manually but now that ive put in the cd it wont read . it doesnt even spin. when i try to eject it it wont . ive also tried ejecting it from terminal, still nothing. it seems to me that it just died. what happened?
[08:28] <mac33> does someone know when MIR will be ready......I've just tried 15.04 but still runs on Xserver
[08:29] <somsip> !mir | mac33
[08:30] <mac33> thanks
[08:31] <Pinchiukas> As it seems it's not possible to debootstrap Ubuntu from an installation/live CD, what would be to best candidate to debootstrap from?
[08:32] <vlt> Pinchiukas: Why not possible? What error message do you get when trying it?
[08:32] <Pinchiukas> vlt: the problem is with installing grub. It cannot find /boot for some reason. And I believe the reason is that the root fs is not a block device.
[08:32] <Pinchiukas> Let me get the exact error.
[08:33] <Pinchiukas> Could not find device for /boot: Not found or not a block device.
[08:33] <vlt> Pinchiukas: Debootstrapping does not install grub by default.
[08:33] <Pinchiukas> I'm executing grub-install from the chroot environment.
[08:33] <Pinchiukas> vlt: well I install the package in the chroot.
[08:33] <Pinchiukas> I do need a bootloader don't I? :)
[08:34] <Pinchiukas> I think this used to work with Debian...
[08:34] <vlt> Pinchiukas: Depends on what you want to do with your debootstrapped system.
[08:34] <Pinchiukas> Well... I'd like to boot it. :)
[08:34] <vlt> Pinchiukas: Did you mount /proc /sys /dev inti the chroot environment=
[08:34] <vlt> ?
[08:35] <vlt> *into
[08:35] <Pinchiukas> I did mount --bind /proc and /dev into the chroot.
[08:35] <Truth> So here i am
[08:35] <Truth> Completely new to ubuntu
[08:36] <Truth> My question is, should I download this?
[08:36] <Pinchiukas> Truth: most definitely.
[08:36] <phiona> i was able to open the cdrom drive manually but now that ive put in the cd it wont read . it doesnt even spin. when i try to eject it it wont . ive also tried ejecting it from terminal, still nothing. it seems to me that it just died. what happened?
[08:36] <Truth> ok reason?
[08:36] <vlt> Pinchiukas: Hmmm ... Is there a reason not to use the installer once you managed to boot it?
[08:36] <Truth> it's like Windows?
[08:37] <Pinchiukas> vlt: you mean using the installer and not debootstrapping?
[08:37] <Truth> or just a small launchable software
[08:37] <Soul-Sing> are there files in ubuntu to store txpower values on wifo ath9 acer?
[08:37] <Siente> Hello guys, do I need that autorun.inf file to boot and install ubuntu from a flash drive?
[08:37] <vlt> Pinchiukas: Yes. I know that was not your question. I was just interested.
[08:37] <Soul-Sing> iwconfig doesn't do anything config txpower
[08:38] <phiona> yes truth, its like windows.
[08:38] <Truth> So it's a completely different OS
[08:38] <Truth> what about for gaming etc
[08:38] <Truth> :)
[08:38] <phiona> yes
[08:39] <phiona> truth you can also install games.
[08:39] <Truth> What if ubuntu isn't compatible with the game
[08:39] <Truth> I mean, it's not common as windows
[08:40] <Truth> Will I face any problems?
[08:40] <cfhowlett> Truth, get linux games. no issues.
[08:40] <Truth> GTA V for example
[08:40] <Truth> lol
[08:40] <Truth> cfhowlett: I can't miss GTA V
[08:40] <cfhowlett> !steam | trueneu
[08:41] <cfhowlett> truth ^^
[08:41] <Truth> Good :)
[08:41] <Truth> So about this operating system
[08:41] <Truth> what's the requirements?
[08:42] <Truth> I saw four options tho
[08:42] <Truth> Ubuntu for developers, how's that ?
[08:42] <Truth> Which suites me more
[08:42] <cfhowlett> "suites" ?
[08:42] <Pinchiukas> vlt: I'm doing the 'minbase' variant. I find that results in the smallest possible installation.
[08:42] <phiona> anything that can run win xp should be good. Truth
[08:43] <Soul-Sing> Qualcomm Atheros AR9485 Wireless Network Adapter
[08:44] <phiona> i was able to open the cdrom drive manually but now that ive put in the cd it wont read . it doesnt even spin. when i try to eject it it wont . ive also tried ejecting it from terminal, still nothing. it seems to me that it just died. what happened?
[08:45] <cfhowlett> phiona, they do fail ... try a music CD
[08:46] <phiona> i cant open the cdrom drive cfhowlett
[08:46] <cfhowlett> phiona, paperclip
[08:46] <kwar5> how to install kde plasma 5.2 on ubuntu 15.04 ?
[08:46] <Pinchiukas> vlt: I can't even think up a "fake" mtab file that'd fool grub-install into finding the correct devices.
[08:47] <Truth> What if i install ubuntu on a VM ?
[08:47] <Truth> will it work?
[08:47] <Pinchiukas> Yes
[08:47] <Truth> VMware workstation for example
[08:47] <Truth> ok
[08:47] <cfhowlett> !vbox | Truth, people do it ll the time
[08:48] <phiona> ive never tried that before cfhowlett. wont this damage my pc.
[08:49] <cfhowlett> phiona, the paperclip ejection hole is there for exactly this situation
[08:49] <kwar5> anyone?
[08:50] <phiona> LOL. ok cfhowlett
[08:50] <kwar5> is it possible?
[08:51] <Pinchiukas> kwar5: have you tried googling it?
[08:51] <kwar5> Pinchiukas i found solution only for 14.04 and 14.10
[08:51] <kwar5> and doesnt work for me
[08:52] <Pinchiukas> Well 15.04 is only a couple days old. :)
[08:52] <Pinchiukas> kwar5: you could just install kubuntu.
[08:53] <Blueking> I've experienced drop out of net 5 times this week every day at 19.50 am not sure how to check why it's disconnecting at same time once a day few sec later net are back
[08:53] <kwar5> i know
[09:12] <rainbowwarrior> hello , I am running Ubuntu 15.04 how do I play dvd's please ?
[09:13] <Chuck_Norris> rainbowwarrior: http://www.noobslab.com/2015/04/tweaksthings-to-do-after-install-of.html
[09:14] <rainbowwarrior> Chuck_Norris , Thank You
[09:14] <Chuck_Norris> rainbowwarrior: np: http://paste.ubuntu.com/10884716/
[09:18] <bishops> Anyone can help with a Rhythmbox issue?
[09:18] <bishops> Rhythmbox does not memorize anymore artwork I manually add to specific tracks or artists
[09:18] <bishops> Not a huge problem but in case anyone can help would be nice
[09:19] <vonsyd0w> bishops, i use easytag to add the artwork directly to the mp3 file
[09:19] <cfhowlett> bishops, pretty specific to rhythmbox not ubuntu. see R's help options.
[09:19] <bishops> vonsyd0w: how to do this?
[09:20] <vonsyd0w> install easytag
[09:20] <bishops> cfhowlett: Ok thanks I'll check this
[09:20] <bishops> vonsyd0w: Ok great thanks!
[09:21] <zakaria> hii room
[09:23] <machdohvah> Is it OK to ask a g++ question here?
[09:23] <bishops> vonsyd0w: Oh why didn't I hear about easytag before saves my life! have a huge collection to sort!
[09:23] <cfhowlett> machdohvah, better to ask the g++ channel
[09:23] <machdohvah> ty
[09:23] <vonsyd0w> bishops, yea easytag is pretty handy
[09:31] <berga> i'm trying to upgrade from 14.04 to 15.04. i've disabled all ppas but do-release-upgrade says no upgrade found (i've tried with and without -d). anyone know what i should do? i'm fairly new at this.
[09:31] <bishops> vonsyd0w: thanks again for this!
[09:31] <cfhowlett> berga, you likely told your update settings to look for LTS only
[09:31] <berga> oh i see
[09:31] <vonsyd0w> bishops, np
[09:32] <berga> it's downloading utopic files now
[09:32] <berga> is that right?
[09:32] <cfhowlett> berga, see? It's all in the wrist ...
[09:32] <berga> thanks man
[09:32] <cfhowlett> berga, happy2help
[09:32] <sennn> what is new?
[09:32] <k1l_> berga: you cant upgrade from 14.04 to 15.04 without going to 14.10
[09:33] <berga> ah gotcha, k1l_
[09:35] <berga> hmm, i think my /boot partition is too small. total size is 81.7 MB and the upgrade needs 74.8 MB
[09:36] <berga> think i need to reinstall completely or can I use gparted to resize it?
[09:36] <cfhowlett> berga, first you'd have to boot an ubuntu USB. then you can "safely" repartition
[09:37] <berga> i have a boot cd with gparted on, iirc it's ubcd
[09:37] <sennn> boring day
[09:43] <blaaa> Is it possible to use LVM-encryption with tpm-based authentication similar to Microsofts biltocker?
[10:04] <blurkis_> what is baloo_file and how come it takes 100% cpu? How can i fix it?
[10:07] <MonkeyDust> blurkis_ start from the beginning, what brings you here, how and where did you find the file etc
[10:08] <blurkis_> MonkeyDust: my cpu takes 100% cpu. As seen with top. Searching google gave that its a problem running kubuntu.. and something about scheduler, and that ubuntu changed it?
[10:09] <MonkeyDust> blurkis_ ok, so you're using kubuntu... which ubuntu release?
[10:14] <MonkeyDust> blurkis_ idd, plenty other users seem to have the same issue
[10:17] <MonkeyDust> blurkis_ the channels #kubuntu and #kde are quite populated, better ask there, i guess
[10:24] <irgendwer4711> hi, I have a strange problem with a few newer self-build kernels. The Kernel crashed after loading the initrd. The screen show colored lines; no text. The working kernels show this lines for a second too, but then the desktop. I am using ubuntu 14.10 and Intel i915.
[10:25] <irgendwer4711> working kernel now is 3.13. tried kernels were 3.16, 3.18. and 3.19
[10:27] <venuc> hi
[10:28] <venuc> Debian 8 Jessie releasing in a few hours from now. Follow progress on irc.debian.org -> #debian-release
[10:28] <Chuck_Norris> irgendwer4711: if you picked up modules one by one, may be one or more must be missing or somthing, just install .debs kernels from: http://kernel.ubuntu.com/~kernel-ppa/mainline/
[10:29] <irgendwer4711> the ubuntu selfbuild kernel 3.16 didnt work too
[10:30] <AJH101> Hi I have just upgraded to 15.04 but am told there is some sort of repository error - how do I renstall that part please
[10:30] <Chuck_Norris> irgendwer4711: you need "linux-headers-all", "linux-header" and "linux-image" install first "header-all" then "header" and last "linux-image"
[10:31] <irgendwer4711> Chuck_Norris: older kernels like 3.13 buildt well
[10:33] <venuc> Debian 8 Jessie releasing in a few hours from now. Follow progress on irc.debian.org -> #debian-release
[10:33] <Chuck_Norris> irgendwer4711: even though isn't recommended, becouse peopel here don't helps when you are using a kernel that is not the one that comes with ubuntu installed
[10:34] <irgendwer4711> Chuck_Norris: no problem. I saw, that I had forgotten --initrd at the last testing kernels. Now I try to boot the last testing kernel with initrd. brb
[10:49] <DietDrK> Where's Ubuntu-servers?
[10:50] <cfhowlett> !server | DietDrK
[10:56] <BluesKaj> Hey folks
[10:58] <irgendwer4711> re
[10:59] <irgendwer4711> Chuck_Norris: I am back
[11:05] <mehdi__> how can i use 15.04 repo to update gedit and libreoffice?
[11:07] <jatt> upgrade to 15.04
[11:07] <mehdi__> i wanna have LTS version
[11:08] <jatt> if you use backports is not lts anymore. hence upgrade
[11:09] <mehdi__> i really disappointed when hear 15.04 is not LTS
[11:10] <jatt> is not supposed to be
[11:10] <mehdi__> isnt the versions with 04 supposed to be LTS?
[11:10] <brainwash> mehdi__: is there any benefit in upgrading gedit? 15.04 still has version 3.10
[11:10] <MonkeyDust> mehdi__ even numbers with 04
[11:12] <Fleet> mehdi__: every fourth major release is LTS iirc
[11:13] <mehdi__> brainwash, my bad i misstook nautilus with gedit
[11:18] <mehdi__> anyway is there any possible way that i can upgrade my gedit to 3.14 the interface is awesome
[11:19] <daniele_> hello
[11:19] <mehdi__> hi
[11:19] <Stanley00> !info gedit
[11:20] <MonkeyDust> mehdi__ you'd need a .debor a ppa, but at your own risk, it's not supported here
[11:20] <MonkeyDust> mehdi__ you'd need a .deb or a ppa, but at your own risk, it's not supported here
[11:22] <mehdi__> MonkeyDust, there was a PPA on askubuntu the that seems to be wrong
[11:22] <mehdi__> i use it at my own risk just donno how
[11:22] <mehdi__> to upgrade
[11:30] <rebs> is there a way to disable loginscreen oin startup 14.04
[11:33] <vooze> What version of Windows and MS-Office do you use for virtualbox? I have plenty of ram and 4 cores if thats a factor :)
[11:33] <AJH101> Hi I have just upgraded to 15.04 but am told there is some sort of repository error - do I reinstall that part? If so how do I do that please?
[11:35] <Chuck_Norris> vooze: are you using windows on virtualbox just for "ms office"?
[11:36] <raphus> ms office 2010 works great under playonlinux
[11:37] <HalfEatenPie> Can the next version of Ubuntu be 3.14 please?
[11:37] <HalfEatenPie> kthxbai
[11:37] <HalfEatenPie> Hell I'll accept Ubuntu 1.57 too
[11:38] <vooze> Chuck_Norris, yes
[11:38] <raphus> @HalfEatenPie i think you have to wait until 54th of May 178
[11:39] <HalfEatenPie> damn
[11:39] <HalfEatenPie> well I'll wait for it
[11:39] <HalfEatenPie> i'm sure if I wait long enough it'll come around
[11:39] <raphus> 'til then you can use ubuntus most used feature... mahjongg
[11:39] <Chuck_Norris> vooze: try this: http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2014/07/run-microsoft-office-web-apps-ubuntu-desktop
[11:41] <Chuck_Norris> vooze: it's online web apps, libreoffice can do pretty much everything though
[11:41] <HalfEatenPie> Nah just use TeX
[11:41] <HalfEatenPie> LaTeX
[11:55] <luckybunny> hi folks... a thought I've had is that I'd like to replace update manager/software updater with Synaptic... except for 2 things. a) I don't know exactly whether that'll be a good move in terms of feature (i.e what can i expect?) and b) I have no idea whether I can actually switch them out like that
[11:56] <chotaz`droid> Each has its purpose.
[11:56] <luckybunny> but I like using synaptic more than I like using the ubuntu default. I can explore the packages it's recommending to be installed, rather than just look at a list and install them all
[11:56] <OerHeks> luckybunny, that is the 1st thing i install: synaptic, but you still need softwarecenter.
[11:57] <luckybunny> then again, I like that update manager notifies me about updates, and checks regularly
[11:57] <luckybunny> no idea if I can get synaptic to do that
[11:57] <kristhia1> hello, how do i change a theme in irssi?
[11:57] <kristhia1> i have typed /set theme <example theme> but nothing happened
[11:58] <rebs> is there a way to disable loginscreen oin startup 14.04
[11:58] * luckybunny is currently doing a distupgrade
[11:58] <luckybunny> 14.10 -> 15.04
[11:59] <OerHeks> rebs, enable automatic login
[11:59] <rebs> OerHeks, i dont see that option in user settings
[11:59] <rebs> I thought it shoudl be under user accounts but the toggle switch is afm
[11:59] <rebs> afk*
[11:59] <chotaz`droid> kristhia1, #ircssi
[11:59] <kristhia1> ok
[12:00] <kristhia1> ircssi?
[12:00] <kristhia1> or is it irssi
[12:00] <OerHeks> rebs, i do > https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/6885560/login.png
[12:00] <OerHeks> rebs switch it on, maybe?
[12:03] <rebs> OerHeks, https://www.dropbox.com/s/01jhr7t0xmczypg/Screenshot%20from%202015-04-25%2008%3A02%3A33.png?dl=0
[12:04] <rebs> im on 14.04...
[12:05] <ioria> rebs : do you have Users and Group ?
[12:06] <rebs> im only one on this machine. how would i check
[12:07] <rebs> i supopse there is a guest session, but i dont ever use that
[12:07] <OerHeks> users & groups is not standard installed, sudo apt-get install gnome-system-tools .. but you don't need that to make auto login
[12:08] <rebs> i dont have that
[12:08] <rebs> maybe i should post on stack exchange
[12:09] <dreamcat4^> i must say, this upgrade to 15.04 is going pretty well so far... it is just remaining to reboot now and see what happens.
[12:09] <ioria> rebs did you press lock ?
[12:09] <rebs> yes, i unlocked it
[12:11] <rebs> im not sure, but could it have to do with disk encryption?
[12:11] <rebs> i dont *think* i have it enabled
[12:11] <ioria> rebs you got ubuntu-desktop ?
[12:11] <rebs> yes
[12:12] <dreamcat4^> time to restart...
[12:12] <ioria> rebs weel, could be,
[12:13] <ioria> rebs weel, http://askubuntu.com/questions/11240/why-is-the-automatic-login-disabled-for-users-with-encrypted-home
[12:13] <rebs> oh lol
[12:13] <rebs> i suppose my next question is then how to decrypt home:p
[12:14] <rebs> but i can google for that
[12:14] <rebs> thx ioria
[12:14] <ioria> rebs np
[12:14] <noreason> can someone help me with xargs
[12:14] <noreason> i dont understand
[12:14] <ioria> i must remember this
[12:15] <rebs> yeah its quite an inconvenience on the desktop
[12:15] <ioria> rebs maybe there is a workaround...
[12:16] <EriC^^> i'm getting a corrupted package while upgrading, i tried removing the package and changing the mirror by commenting out some of the mirrors in pacman.d/mirrorlist is that how i can change the mirror for sure?
[12:16] <ioria> rebs you could use a random encrypted folder instead of home encrypted
[12:16] <EriC^^> crap
[12:16] <EriC^^> wrong window
[12:16] <OerHeks> pacman is gonna get ya
[12:17] <EriC^^> hehe
[12:17] <ioria> rebs TrueCrypt or some
[12:18] <mehdi__> guys i have unity can i install gnome 3.16 DE next to it?
[12:18] <k-stz> mehdi__: yes, it will let you switch on login
[12:19] <OerHeks> mehdi on what ubuntu version ?
[12:19] <rebs> yeah thats what im checking out now ioria thx for the tip!
[12:19] <ioria> rebs np again
[12:21] <OerHeks> mehdi Vivid has gnome 3.14, so i guess you need a ppa, which are unsupported here ( use at own risc)
[12:24] <mehdi__> OerHeks, i use 14.04
[12:25] <OerHeks> mehdi__, i am not sure there is a ppa for that version.
[12:25] <OerHeks> LTS is conservative about new features
[12:25] <OerHeks> (which is a good thing)
[12:26] <\\Mr_C\\> what causes files to say not found when they are plainly there in sight?
[12:26] <AsianWolverine> Hi there I am new to linux can someone guide me to help chat room?
[12:26] <Athos-x> Hi guys... I am having a difficult time getting plymouth splash to work again, i have tried almost every fix out there... But it just will not work. I am running Ubuntu Gnome 15.04 and it happened after installing propietary Nvidia drivers... Gnome IRC is dead so i thought would come here.
[12:26] <OerHeks> \\Mr_C\\, tell us what command gives that error..
[12:26] <\\Mr_C\\> ./UnrealLinux.bin
[12:27] <OerHeks> \\Mr_C\\, make it executable?
[12:27] <\\Mr_C\\> did the chown
[12:27] <\\Mr_C\\> it works in debian, but not ubuntu
[12:28] <mehdi__> OerHeks, well 3.14 seems to be the latest and i found a page http://www.webupd8.org/2014/10/how-to-install-gnome-314-in-ubuntu.html it seems there are some conflicts with unity
[12:28] <OerHeks> \\Mr_C\\, maybe chmod +x ...?
[12:28] <brainwash> Athos-x: revert to the open source driver
[12:29] <OerHeks> mehdi__, can't help you there.
[12:29] <Athos-x> The open source driver is laggy for some reason... Especially with the app tray... I am using the latest Gnome.
[12:29] <Athos-x> Is there no way around this?
[12:29] <OerHeks> mehdi__, besides, that guide is for 14.10
[12:29] <Athos-x> It is only a splashscreen i know lol but it does annoy me hahaha...
[12:30] <mehdi__> OerHeks, is there any application like system restore if such things happened so i can revert it?
[12:30] <OerHeks> mehdi__, not standard, no. this is not windows.
[12:30] <blurkis_> any one clever about apache? I want a subdomain for baten.z-sverige.nu, which is added in the dns. it works. I have added a config in apache in a seperate config file in availibel/enabled. http://pastebin.com/b19Yg9tA and yet, going to baten.z-sverige.nu brings the content of z-sverige.nu ? how come..?
[12:31] <SchrodingersScat> !backup | mehdi__
[12:31] <brainwash> Athos-x: well, this has been discussed quite often already, not sure if we can provide a ground breaking new solution. check askubuntu, ubuntuforums,..
[12:31] <Athos-x> I know brain.. And i have probably done most fixes lol... That is why i am desperate lol.
[12:31] <Athos-x> Thank you anyways...
[12:32] <brainwash> blame nvidia :)
[12:32] <Athos-x> It´s just one of those small annoyances which has no real impact on the system.
[12:32] <Athos-x> LOL....
[12:33] <Athos-x> But for real Gnome 3.16 is just amazing... Everything is so smooth and fast.
[12:33] <andybrine> Good afternoon everyone
[12:34] <Athos-x> Tried Antergos but i found it buggy as heck... Ubuntu gnome is also buggy here and there, but wayyyy more stable...
[12:34] <andybrine> Does anyone know if it is possible to install gnome shell 3.16 in ubuntu 15.04?
[12:34] <Athos-x> Yes andy it is possible.
[12:34] <brainwash> the demand for gnome 3.16 is really high :D
[12:35] <Athos-x> sudo add-apt-repository ppa:gnome3-team/gnome3-staging
[12:35] <andybrine> Athos, ok thanks
[12:35] <OerHeks> carefull with that ppa, lots of bugreports
[12:35] <Athos-x> sudo add-apt-repository ppa:gnome3-team/gnome3
[12:36] <andybrine> Is that staging repository stable?
[12:36] <Athos-x> sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[12:36] <geri> hi, i have an issue with removing a folder... i get Read-only file system ... i cant change the permission :(
[12:36] <andybrine> Ok thanks. I will give it a shot
[12:36] <Athos-x> Well andy i have no idea... But i have it up and running here on Ubuntu Gnome 15.04
[12:37] <andybrine> you are using 3.16?
[12:37] <andybrine> I tested it with arch linux and thought it was great.
[12:38] <Athos-x> Yup 3.16.1
[12:38] <andybrine> Awesome!! I will see if I can get it working then.
[12:38] <Athos-x> It works like a charm man... I love the notifications.
[12:38] <andybrine> Sounds good
[12:39] <andybrine> I tried to install it earlier and I was not able to login
[12:39] <Athos-x> Do not know if i am allowed to post links here...
[12:39] <andybrine> and thought that was strange
[12:39] <rahulprodev> Hello everyone, whazz up?
[12:39] <Athos-x> Hmmmm strange...
[12:39] <rahulprodev> anyone pls tell me how can i stop suggestion in ubuntu from ubuntu panel :)
[12:39] <andybrine> luckily I was able to log back into unity
[12:39] <OerHeks> Athos-x, as long they are ontopic
[12:39] <ioria> geri usb device ?
[12:40] <Athos-x> Do not know how to fix that bro.
[12:40] <Athos-x> Andy how did you intall it?
[12:40] <andybrine> im going to try it again to see it was something I have done
[12:40] <Athos-x> Thanks Oerheks!
[12:41] <andybrine> I installed it by adding that repo and doing a distro upgrade
[12:41] <andybrine> do you need the testing repo as well?
[12:42] <Athos-x> Hmmm strange... It worked just fine over...
[12:42] <Athos-x> here.
[12:42] <Athos-x> So your login screen is gone or something like that?
[12:43] <andybrine> my login screen was there but as soon as I logged it. It seemed to start loading and then fail
[12:43] <Athos-x> Can anyone help Andy?
[12:44] <andybrine> im going to reboot quick, I will be back
[12:44] <andybrine> thanks Athos-x
[12:44] <Athos-x> Cool.
[12:45] <Athos-x> And?
[12:45] <andybrine> unforunately for me it has done the same again
[12:46] <andybrine> very strange
[12:46] <Athos-x> Hmmmm any error messages?
[12:46] <geri> ioria: sd card
[12:47] <geri> with ubuntu installed
[12:47] <andybrine> there are no error messages
[12:47] <geri> id had some issue with the disk
[12:47] <geri> so i dd the image on to the sd card again :D
[12:47] <Athos-x> Andy did you install it on regular Ubuntu 15.04?
[12:48] <andybrine> I cant get a screenshot with is a shame but it literally goes to load and the comes back to login
[12:48] <andybrine> yeah
[12:48] <geri> ubuntu 14.04
[12:48] <Athos-x> You can switch to Unity and login?
[12:48] <andybrine> yea
[12:48] <ioria> geri df -Th and find your sd, umount it, the run dosfsck, remove it and replace
[12:48] <Athos-x> I suggest you purge the ppa and reinstall again...
[12:48] <geri> Ubuntu 14.04.1 (amd64)
[12:49] <Athos-x> Maybe it will work then?
[12:49] <geri> ioria: it was not able to boot the sd card corretly
[12:49] <andybrine> thats what I did just then
[12:49] <andybrine> I may have some broken packages
[12:49] <Athos-x> And still no luck?
[12:50] <geri> is gcc 4.8.2 shipped with ubuntu 14.04?
[12:50] <somsip> !info gcc trusty | geri
[12:50] <geri> when i do apt-get install gcc it fetches this version..
[12:50] <Athos-x> Check out this thread Andy... It is old but it might work. http://askubuntu.com/questions/65852/cannot-login-to-my-user-account
[12:50] <andybrine> Not at the moment
[12:50] <geri> why not gcc 4.9?
[12:50] <cfhowlett> geri, http://paste.ubuntu.com/10886098/
[12:51] <geri> why not gcc 4.9?
[12:51] <andybrine> Ok, I will try that
[12:52] <andybrine> I think it may have been logging into lightdm
[12:52] <ioria> geri i'm lost, was your problem related to read-only fs ?
[12:52] <OerHeks> geri, because it is LTS, long term support, if you want newer, upgrade to 14.10-15.04
[12:52] <geri> so ubuntu 14.04 is quiet old?
[12:52] <somsip> geri: from month 04 in 2014
[12:52] <geri> ok
[12:52] <cfhowlett> geri, April 2014. bear in mind; bleeding edge is often bloody. choose wisely.
[12:53] <dreamcat4^> geri: but as LTS they continue to update it
[12:53] <dreamcat4^> geri: 14.04.2 updated now has a slightly newer kernel (3.16 vs 3.13)
[12:53] <andybrine> Still cant login to gnome shell
[12:54] <geri> dreamcat4^: i might need to modify the kernel
[12:54] <geri> i only want to use 1 core for my ubuntu
[12:54] <andybrine> Athos-x did you install the testing repository as well?
[12:54] <dreamcat4^> geri: perhaps you should use 15.04 then, as it has 3.19 kernel now
[12:54] <geri> dreamcat4^: would i be able to select only 1 kernel to be used?
[12:55] <dreamcat4^> geri: what do you want to use your other core(s) for then ?
[12:55] <geri> dreamcat4^: bare metal
[12:56] <dreamcat4^> geri: i assume by that you mean vmware esxi or some other hypervisor
[12:58] <dreamcat4^> geri: well here's what i am doing: run ubuntu 15.04 desktop with 3.19 kernel. then run all my server stuff in docker contianers, or ubuntu minbase 14.04.2
[13:02] <geri> dreamcat4^: docker?
[13:02] <geri> dreamcat4^: i dont do cloud computing :D
[13:02] <geri> dreamcat4^: i need performance :)
[13:03] <geri> and not a virtual layer in between
[13:03] <OerHeks> performance with single core, right.
[13:04] <lush> is it easily possible to install ubuntu 14.04 64 bit on a uefi system with MBR partitioning (dual booting with windows..)
[13:04] <OerHeks> lush there is a uefi manual about it
[13:04] <OerHeks> !uefi
[13:04] <geri> OerHeks: not each problem is parallelisable :D
[13:04] <geri> parallelizable
[13:05] <dreamcat4^> geri: well docker is good for that... it's linux containers (namespace). it's for suitable local and cloud services (either)
[13:05] <andybrine> However much I like shell 3.16, I think im going to leave it
[13:05] <andybrine> lol
[13:07] <dreamcat4^> geri: also - it is more effecient sharing the memory than an HV and other resources (cpu, etc)
[13:08] <geri> how can i see the free space on my linux?
[13:08] <cfhowlett> geri, easy. open terminal: free
[13:08] <nullbyte_> how can i remove left default panel in desktop and to make a one in bottom/center tool menu bar?
[13:09] <OerHeks> nullbyte_, if you point at the unity bar, you can't.
[13:09] <geri> hm http://ideone.com/0KSjnR
[13:09] <dreamcat4^> geri: df -h, there are also other disk analyzer tools.
[13:09] <OerHeks> nullbyte_, you can hide it, and use an other dock
[13:10] <geri> http://ideone.com/0KSjnR ...bad !
[13:10] <nullbyte_> OerHeks: yes the docks, how ? from gnome.extensions.org or... ?
[13:10] <geri> dreamcat4^: can i extend and get more space?
[13:10] <dreamcat4^> geri: i seem to have a gui program named 'Disk Usage Analyzer' installed. it does the job ok. but there are a couple of other ones too
[13:11] <BluesKaj> geri, free is for memory , df -h will give you disk details
[13:11] <OerHeks> nullbyte_, look in softwarecenter?
[13:11] <nullbyte_> ok
[13:11] <geri> dreamcat4^: im worried about /dev/mmcblk0p2 474M 470M 0 100% /
[13:11] <Guest82248> Hi... I'm trying to upgrade from 14.04 LTS to 15.04... I have changed settings in my source manager so that it doesn't only fetch new upgrade from LTS... However, it's only prompting me 14.10 upgrade? Do I need to upgrade to 14.10 before I upgrade to 15.04?
[13:11] <OerHeks> geri that looks like a memorycard, did you boot from the iso ?
[13:12] <cfhowlett> Guest82248, correct.
[13:12] <geri> OerHeks: it is! i dd the image onto the sd card
[13:12] <dreamcat4^> geri: it's not hard. if you have a gui you can run gparted. else you may have been provided a script to do it for you. (or use fdisk etc.)
[13:12] <OerHeks> geri, no wonder that you have no diskspace, grinn
[13:12] <geri> dreamcat4^: i dont have a gui
[13:12] <cfhowlett> Guest82248, 14.04 > 14.10 > 15.04 OR torrent the 15.04 .iso, make a USB and clean install
[13:13] <geri> OerHeks: is there a quick fix? the sd card is 16GB
[13:13] <Guest82248> I'm kind of surprised that Ubuntu can't jump two versions, but that makes sense I guess.
[13:13] <dreamcat4^> geri: what is the hardware ?
[13:13] <geri> dreamcat4^: embedded platform
[13:14] <geri> arm cortex a9
[13:14] <OerHeks> geri, that is not how it works, you can make the rest of the card a filesystem, it should be an option during making of that bootdevice
[13:14] <geri> OerHeks: insert the card into my mac?
[13:15] <ubuntu-mate> hi
[13:15] <ubuntu-mate> how doing i leave Kernel Panic
[13:16] <MonkeyDust> ubottu 15.04?
[13:16] <MonkeyDust> dang completion
[13:17] <dreamcat4^> geri: i have an odroid-C1 arm device. they provide a 'resizefs' shell script that can run on the cmdline after booting into ubuntu 14.04.
[13:17] <geri> dreamcat4^: can you give it to me?
[13:18] <dreamcat4^> geri: but it just runs a few fdisk cmds and stuff like that
[13:18] <geri> will i be able to see the rest of the space left on my card in my current ubuntu session?
[13:18] <dreamcat4^> geri: http://forum.odroid.com/viewtopic.php?f=52&t=2948
[13:18] <geri> dreamcat4^: http://ideone.com/KzMp10
[13:19] <dreamcat4^> geri: the guy who posted that script is one of the software maintainers in odroid OSS community, so he can be trusted
[13:20] <geri> dreamcat4^: will i need to reboot or so?
[13:20] <geri> im in the command line
[13:22] <dreamcat4^> geri: you need to check or rename the partition in the script to match your device (if different) ---> https://gist.github.com/dreamcat4/853032af79d063f4ee3e
[13:22] <dreamcat4^> geri: and all other instructions are on the forum thread. ok?
[13:22] <geri> dreamcat4^: my device name is also /dev/mmcblk0p2
[13:25] <dreamcat4^> geri: then you don't need to worry about that bit. just follow the forum instructions.
[13:32] <profus2> hi everybody, this is probably not the right place to ask but could someone help me out with translation in launchpad?
[13:33] <profus2> my question: regards procedure
[13:33] <profus2> after having translated and saved, do I have to download translation in a *.po file and the uplaod this file to the project?
[13:35] <lush> ubottu: If I install windows and ubuntu on seperate hard drives will grub still manage to create a windows menu-entry?
[13:36] <lush> aah xD
[13:36] <domovoi> has anyone seen an update fail because ttf-mscorefonts-installer
[13:36] <lush> @ OerHeks
[13:36] <lush> lol
[13:36] <ubotter> how can i deativate the who and away message windows in pidgin? i see this windows every login, this anoying me :|
[13:36] <cfhowlett> domovoi, no. but unless you actually need the msoft fonts, you can skip them
[13:36] <profus2> @lush: yes, it will
[13:37] <domovoi> thanks , i did but it keeps popping up , with an update box , failed to update data files
[13:37] <ubotter> two little windows who and away every login and when i go afk or type who :|
[13:37] <[n0mad]> seems like someone asked the same question last night about pidgin and were told it's not possible but i may have stopped reading then
[13:37] <cfhowlett> domovoi, hmm. purge the mssft fonts, update, upgrade
[13:38] <ubotter> realy? but i like pidgin i dont wanna change the irc client :(
[13:38] <ubotter> is ther a plugin? additional
[13:39] <ubotter> [n0mad]: i bet its possible with a plugin :P
[13:39] <ubotter> but i dont now wich smile
[13:40] <ubotter> [n0mad]: can u give me a recommend for a good irc client?
[13:40] <lush> profus2: ty
[13:40] <cfhowlett> ubotter, hexchat
[13:40] <[n0mad]> ubotter, this web site says it's not possible, and everything else i see is people asking for plugins for it https://encrypteverything.ca/IRC_Anonymity_Guide
[13:40] <ubotter> nice ty i try this chat. ist it very complicated to config this hex chat? i dont like irc clients wiht 1000 config possibilitys
[13:41] <[n0mad]> hexchat is pretty basic as far as irc configuration honestly
[13:41] <cfhowlett> ubotter, very easy
[13:41] <SchrodingersScat> ubotter: weechat? irssi?
[13:41] <ubotter> nice i try this clients thx bye :) have a nice day ^^
[13:43] <ubotter> wth is hand crafted smile?
[13:44] <[n0mad]> hand crafted smile?
[13:44] <ubotter> domovoi hat den Raum verlassen (quit: Quit: http://www.kiwiirc.com/ - A hand crafted IRC client).
[13:44] <marcshake> so. upgrading ubuntustudio to 15.04 is easy or should I wait. (user with "some" linux knowledge). I would do it without any fear but my backup-raid is broken ;)
[13:44] <flarea> hello, who can help me with the Orca screen reader? I'm unable to open the settings panel even by oressing ins+spacebar
[13:46] <jatt> systemctl status says:
[13:46] <jatt> State: degraded
[13:46] <jatt> what does it mean?
[13:47] <runda> help
[13:47] <lord4163> with?
[13:47] <cfhowlett> !help | runda
[13:47] <runda> lol I'm an ass
[13:48] <cfhowlett> runda, no profanity.
[13:48] <cfhowlett> and please play elsewhere
[13:48] <runda> I was typing /msg nickserv
[13:48] <runda> sorry about nthat
[13:50] <xangua> it's NickServ , not nickserv
[13:51] <cfhowlett> xangua, actually either will work
[13:51] <xangua> oh nice
[13:51] <tijnix> hi
[13:52] <tijnix> Question, what is the best alternative for photoshop, still gimp?
[13:52] <runda> I just started IRC, so I am still working through some things
[13:52] <cfhowlett> tijnix, "best" is subjective. gimp seems to work for most
[13:53] <tijnix> Not many other choices either
[13:53] <MonkeyDust> tijnix photoshop is the best alternative for gimp
[13:54] <tijnix> I just need to quick edit some png's and dont want to boot into osx again :D
[13:54] <tijnix> gimp will do, thnx
[13:55] <MonkeyDust> tijnix try shotwell
[13:56] <xangua> pinta is nice and simple too
[14:03] <newbie_irc> ls
[14:03] <newbie_irc> help
[14:05] <MonkeyDust> newbie_irc let's hear it
[14:05] <cfhowlett> !help | newbie_irc
[14:05] <jnns> does anyone run gnome 3.16 from the staging ppa successfully on vivid?
[14:06] <newbie_irc> lol, first time on IRC, i don't know how to start
[14:06] <cfhowlett> newbie_irc, get to the point. state your ubuntu problem with the relevant details.
[14:06] <MonkeyDust> newbie_irc not too hard: ask a question and wait
[14:07] <newbie_irc> what's the command to see who's on #ubuntu channel?
[14:08] <darkfrog> Hey guys, I'm running Ubuntu 15.04 and installed the nvidia drivers (Additional Drivers) and everything is working great, but I have four monitors and I arrange them in nvidia-settings (run as root) and save it out to xorg.conf but it doesn't retain after I reboot. Anyone know how to solve this?
[14:08] <oats> sd1001: o/
[14:08] <sd1001> sd1001: o/
[14:08] <GermainZ> sd1001: o/
[14:09] <sd1001> GermainZ: \o
[14:09] <Mneuro> I am running Ubuntu Mate 15.04 and I'm getting a lot of screen tearing. I have tried the marco and compiz compositors but i still get a lot of tearing. I have Nvidia GPU. Anyone have any ideas?
[14:09] <GermainZ> Mneuro: tried enabling vsync?
[14:09] <Mneuro> in compiz?
[14:09] <Mneuro> Yea, it was enabled
[14:09] <GermainZ> or nvidia's settings
[14:10] <Mneuro> I've had it enabled in nvidias settings since the drivers installed
[14:10] <Mneuro> unless theres another way besides the opengl sync option in the nvidia tool
[14:11] <MonkeyDust> newbie_irc /list
[14:14] <jnns> newbie_irc & MonkeyDust: that's not quite right. /list lists all the channels in the network whereas /names <channel> gives all the users in the channel
[14:15] <newbie_irc> yeah, /name is correct. I tried and it worked
[14:15] <Godsgift> hello
[14:18] <oats> $(base64 -d<<<H4sIAOOhO1UAA3Mp8C7xsswyyXIp1C/K18tIz0jK0de3Sk5PL1UoqMzkAgBUpjlpIAAAAA==|gzip -d|tr A-Za-z N-ZA-Mn-za-m|rev)
[14:22] <thatllbeyou> hey guys. having a bit of a problem with switching from 14.04 to 15.04. when i updated last night it wouldn't start so im installing from a .iso this time around. but i need to backup my .local files and i can't do it while running the livecd
[14:25] <Kosl> Heard that Ubuntu is planning to introduce Snappy. Can someone explain me the advatages/disadvantages and I thought .deb-packages are a good thing?
[14:27] <SchrodingersScat> !ot | Kosl: probably offtopic for here, since it's a future plan, I've seen talk about that in #ubuntu-offtopic though
[14:27] <webcheck> hi all
[14:27] <SchrodingersScat> webcheck: hello
[14:27] <ObrienDave> Greetings & Welcome
[14:27] <cristian2> hi!
[14:28] <asido> I have a script setting environment variables in /etc/profile.d. when I open terminal I see the variable is set. when I do `sudo su root`, the variables is not set anymore. why is that?
[14:28] <webcheck> i'm looking a way to implement the argv and argc on an existing code but i don't know how to do it, any help?
[14:29] <pavlos> asido, root uses a different PATH env
[14:30] <pavlos> asido, http://askubuntu.com/questions/128413/setting-the-path-so-it-applies-to-all-users-including-root-sudo
[14:38] <HaloInReverse> Can anyone tell me what the difference is between choosing "Lock/Switch User" from the unity menu and using Meta + L to lock a session?
[14:39] <lush> as nobody answers me in #elementary I'll try to ask here again as it seems to be a general ubuntu concern and not a elementary-specific one:
[14:39] <lush> [16:34] <lush> I installed a dual boot with win7 and elementary freya on my uefi machine [16:34] <lush> I chose MBR and I booted in legacy mode (at least I hope so) [16:34] <lush> I've got a ssd (/dev/sda) with windows [16:35] <lush> And a hdd with elementary (dev/sdb), and I installed grub into /dev/sdb [16:35] <lush> After the installation finished I wasn't able to boot elementary (grub doesn't load, it always loads windows) and I don'
[14:39] <lush> ah damn
[14:39] <lush> wait
[14:39] <cfhowlett> lush, nope. doesn't work like that. you're running elementary. go to elementary for support.
[14:39] <lush> I installed a dual boot with win7 and elementary freya on my uefi machine
[14:40] <cfhowlett> lush, why? because it's not ubuntu.
[14:40] <lush> cfhowlett: why? elementary is completely based on ubuntu and this is just a problem with booting it directly after the installation
[14:40] <pavlos> HaloInReverse, "lock" locks the current user and requires pw to unlock. "Switch" changes user
[14:40] <HaloInReverse> Pavlos: It's the same menu item.
[14:40] <lush> cfhowlett: so if somebody asks for kubuntu support here he won't get any tips?
[14:40] <cfhowlett> !flavors | these are supported. if it's not on this list, it's not supported
[14:41] <brainwash> !nomodeset
[14:41] <cfhowlett> lush, please see !flavors
[14:41] <MonkeyDust> lush elementary has it's own channel; there's no reason to come here
[14:41] <HaloInReverse> Pavlos: Choosing lock/switch user should (in theory) lock the session and take me to the lock screen. Instead it crashes my session.
[14:41] <rajesh> hello
[14:41] <HaloInReverse> Pavlos: However, Meta +L, which in theory does the exact same thing, doesn't crash the session.
[14:41] <lush> MonkeyDust: there is, this one is far more active and I would have the exactly same problem with Ubuntu
[14:42] <lush> cfhowlett: I don't get it... I'm rly sure it's not a elementary-specific problem but a general problem
[14:42] <MonkeyDust> lush i guess you're getting now, that you'll find no support here
[14:42] <lush> pft
[14:43] <pavlos> HaloInReverse, mt laptop runs 14.04, unity. I pressed lock, it asked for my pw. no crash
[14:43] <cfhowlett> lush, perhaps there's a cosmic message: when choosing an OS, select one that provides the support needed??
[14:43] <HaloInReverse> pavlos: mine does that too... and did that too from "lock/switch user" until very recently. Now it crashes my session. Are there any log files I can look through to find a cause?
[14:44] <lush> cfhowlett: I just wanted to use an ubuntu with a pantheon desktop omg If I'd just have installed Ubuntu, removed unity and tehn added the elementary ppa it would still be a ubuntu with pantheon, as elementary is..
[14:44] <oats> lush: maybe when I have ubuntu problems, I should go to #debian because ubuntu is completely based off debian.
[14:44] <tgm4883> lush: have you tried setting you bios to bit the other drive first
[14:44] <OerHeks> lush, elementary has its own issues
[14:45] <Snarkster> anyone have any issues with installing 15.04 over 14.10?
[14:45] <cfhowlett> lush, and yet and still: it's not an ubuntu flavor. ask elementary for support. It IS their distro and their responsibility.
[14:45] <jatt> nope
[14:45] <MonkeyDust> Snarkster this is the support channel, so ask your question
[14:45] <Snarkster> so upgrading is no problem?
[14:45] <lush> tgm4883: I don't know how but I guess that's the problem.. I only get the ssd displayed in my boot menu in uefi
[14:46] <cfhowlett> Snarkster, what exactly is the problem you're having?
[14:46] <pavlos> HaloInReverse, /var/log/auth.log ... it should have an entry about lock
[14:46] <lush> oats: maybe if it is a problem that concerns the deb-pkging system or so
[14:46] <Snarkster> my problem is last time i upgraded, it broke.. will it break this time?
[14:46] <lush> OerHeks: I know but that's not the point :P
[14:47] <cfhowlett> Snarkster, back up your data, try it and see. OR select a Long Term Support version.
[14:47] <Snarkster> thanx
[14:47] <ObrienDave> LTS +1
[14:47] <tgm4883> lush: why did you install in legacy mode
[14:47] <HaloInReverse> hrm... how about this: gnome-keyring-daemon[2389]: couldn't allocate secure memory to keep passwords and or keys from being written to the disk
[14:47] <HaloInReverse> It seems to line up with the crashes.
[14:48] <lush> tgm4883: because I wanted to use MBR and not GPT, and https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UEFI recommended it this way
[14:48] <cfhowlett> tgm4883, if you want to provide support to a non-ubuntu distro, perhaps you and lush can take it private, please?
[14:49] <lush> tgm4883: ... and windows is installed this way .. so to load windows UEFI/MBR I need to use UEFI/MBR in linux as well
[14:49] <lush> cfhowlett: how about thgis: I'm trying to install Kubuntu on my HDD machine dual booting to windows
[14:49] <lush> SSD: Windows MBR
[14:49] <lush> HDD Kubuntu MBR
[14:49] <lush> After the installtion I wasn't able to boot up Kubuntu as grub won't load
[14:49] <lush> may you help me tgm4883 pls?
[14:50] <ObrienDave> so, if we give you Kubuntu instructions for your ELEMENTARY machine and it breaks, you won't come back to complain, right?
[14:51] <lush> ObrienDave: y
[14:51] <ObrienDave> right
[14:51] <tgm4883> lush: I don't see MBR listed on that Page. What I do see is "f the other systems (Windows Vista/7/8, GNU/Linux...) of your computer are installed in UEFI mode, then you must install Ubuntu in UEFI mode too."
[14:51] <lush> tgm4883: yeah but I installed windows in bios mode
[14:52] <tgm4883> lush: I don't believe you. But in any case, I would have installed grub to the primary drive
[14:53] <lush> tgm4883: it says that legacy is recommended.. I see that BootRepair tip but I'm not sure whether it will choose my drive on which it should repair grub
[14:53] <lush> tgm4883: You don't believe me that I installed windows in bios mode?
[14:54] <lush> tgm4883: SO you think my mb just recognizes the first bootloader on the ssd and then doesn't search for other ones?
[14:55] <Dumle29> Hmm I'm running xubuntu, with 3 monitors, and I don't see any option to change my rightmost monitor to the primary monitor. Any idea how to do that?
[14:55] <tgm4883> lush: the reason elementary is isn't supported here is because we don't know what they changed. This includes in the installations of grub
[14:55] <lush> tgm4883: I explicitly did boot in the non-uefi mode so it should be
[14:56] <lush> tgm4883: So if I'd install windows on /dev/sda and then ubuntu on /dev/sdb with grub on /dev/sdb, both MBR, bot legacy mode, ubuntu would just bboot?
[14:57] <someone12> I am trying to install ubuntu 15 gnome edition, but the installer is total crap and I cannot finish the install process
[14:58] <tgm4883> lush: possibly
[14:58] <oats> someone12: can you be a little more specific, please?
[14:58] <oats> what's happeningL
[14:58] <MonkeyDust> someone12 define total crap
[14:59] <someone12> example1: if I choose "erase disk and install ubuntu" it attempts to install ubuntu on my usb flash drive (which I am booting from) instead of my ssd. It then says there is not enough space (duh)
[14:59] <someone12> example2: "swap creation failed"
[14:59] <someone12> example3: formatting ext4 failed
[15:00] <someone12> so I gparte'ed the ssd in another ubuntu, did not check format ext4, left out the swap partition, and the installation process starts
[15:00] <ioria> encryption ?
[15:00] <krlmrx> Hi, i have installed a Distibution that is based on Ubuntu (Trisquel 7.0). Is it possible to install AMD Catalyst™ 14.6 Beta for Linux which is made for Ubuntu 14.04 on that distibution?
[15:00] <MonkeyDust> krlmrx not supported here
[15:00] <tgm4883> lush: why would you want legacy mode over uefi mode anyway. Uefi is awesome
[15:00] <ObrienDave> krlmrx, better to ask trisquel
[15:00] <someone12> but then: no progress bar, no information what is happening, I waited for 20min, then I stopped the process
[15:01] <lush> tgm4883: not at all if I don't get it to boot windows and linux
[15:01] <krlmrx> they won't support it either
[15:01] <someone12> ioria: It's a samsung ssd, I activated hardware encryption via ata password
[15:01] <MonkeyDust> krlmrx then choose a distro that's better supported
[15:02] <tgm4883> lush: you can't boot either in uefi mode
[15:02] <lush> tgm4883: what do you mean?
[15:02] <ioria> someone12 so you didn't choose encryption during installation ?
[15:02] <someone12> no I did not
[15:02] <tgm4883> lush: sorry that was a question
[15:03] <someone12> I chose "something" else and then assigned / and /home to the partitions I created before
[15:03] <Dumle29> Danm. Installing XP in a VM. that old textbased interface :P
[15:03] <someone12> Has the progress bar been completely removed?
[15:03] <Dumle29> sorry wrong irc
[15:03] <lush> tgm4883: I can boot at least windows in uefi mode (didn't try Kubuntu) but I tried to install gentoo on my hdd and I wasn't able to get GPT/UEFI running so I'm not that more interested in UEFI mode..
[15:04] <malebola> /msg malebola identify amfeta
[15:04] <penalvch> Hello everyone. I'm debugging an issue with saned network scanning ( LP#1442956 ) and was wondering if anyone has successfully set this up in either Utopic or Vivid? It's working for me in Trusty, so seems a regression.
[15:04] <tgm4883> malebola: you may want to change your password now
[15:05] <someone12> ^^
[15:05] <tgm4883> !password
[15:05] <tgm4883> hmm
[15:05] <tgm4883> I don't remember the command for that
[15:05] <tgm4883> !identify
[15:05] <tgm4883> malebola: ^
[15:05] <lush> malebola: hehe that was an evil one :D
[15:06] <ioria> someone12 well, i don't know much about hardware encryption... maybe that's the issue
[15:07] <kokut> Hello, is there a way to create an exact copy of my boot partition to boot from it with the data on my home folder as well?
[15:07] <douglas> hi
[15:07] <douglas> How do i create a channel?
[15:07] <someone12> hm, samsung ssds always use hardware encryption, if no password is set, the password is ""...
[15:08] <lush> krlmrx: according to http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trisquel and http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2014/11/download-trisquel-7-0-kernel-3-13 trisquel is based on ubuntu 14.04
[15:08] <lush> krlmrx: so it should not be a problem to install that driver on trsiquel ;)
[15:08] <tgm4883> lush: so here's the deal. And this advise comes with zero warranty. Fire up a live cd and do the boot repair stuff. If it breaks everything, then you reinstall. If not, and it doesn't fix everything, contact your motherboard manufacture and see why it's not recognizing grub on the second hard drive
[15:08] <ObrienDave> here's how to get **** for password feedback. http://ubuntuhandbook.org/index.php/2014/08/ubuntu-display-asterisks-when-typing-password-terminal/
[15:09] <lush> tgm4883: do you know whether boot-repair will just execute some grub2-install --target=x86_64 /dev/sdX or whether there is more behind it?
[15:09] <tgm4883> lush: what I would have done is use UEFI. Short of that, I would have plugged in one hard drive, installed windows. Unplugged that hard drive and plugged in the other, installed Linux. Then once I verified I could boot each separately install both hard drives together and fix grub
[15:10] <tgm4883> lush: I don't know
[15:10] <HaloInReverse> lush: did you install in legacy mode, not UEFI?
[15:10] <lush> tgm4883: I did it this way with gentoo, the problem seems to be that my mb will only recognize the EFI partition of my first drive
[15:10] <ioria> someone12 if you don't have specific need, try the default set up instead of 'something else'
[15:11] <tgm4883> lush: then install grub to your first drive. I'm assuming you can't just put your motherboard in bios only mode?
[15:11] <lush> HaloInReverse: I'm pretty sure. I've got a new mb so it took me a while but I configured to prefer booting legacy than in uefi
[15:11] <lush> tgm4883: don't think so
[15:11] <tgm4883> lush: what motherboard
[15:11] <Kartagis> I'm running 14.04 with gnome atm and alt+tab is not working even though I set it in keyboard shortcuts. this is annoying. can you help?
[15:11] <lush> tgm4883: aus z97-p
[15:12] <HaloInReverse> lush: you can't mix both legacy and UEFI. It just won't work
[15:12] <tgm4883> lush: why not install grub to your first drive?
[15:12] <lush> HaloInReverse: I know I booted win7 in legacy and linux in legacy
[15:12] <someone12> ioria: when I chose the default method, it somehow tried to install ubuntu on my flash drive (which I am booting from) instead of my ssd, and then failed with an error saying there is not enough space
[15:12] <lush> that's the point
[15:12] <lush> tgm4883: Will grub be able to boot windows if I override the windows boot loader`?
[15:13] <HaloInReverse> oh. well, as mentioned earlier, your best bet is to roll the dice with boot-repair.
[15:13] <someone12> the flash drives gets mounted as /dev/sdb and the ssd as /dev/sda..
[15:13] <tgm4883> lush: I would say yes, how do you think it works on single drive dual boots
[15:13] <Hulio> can DirectX11 work on wineskin?
[15:13] <tgm4883> lush: or, just swap the drive cables
[15:14] <daftykins> Hulio: afaik Wine only offers lower levels of the directX API
[15:14] <lush> tgm4883: ahh good point I'll try switching that cables :)
[15:14] <lush> ty
[15:14] <daftykins> Hulio: check them out in their channel to confirm #winehq
[15:14] <ioria> someone12 uefi motherboard ?
[15:14] <tgm4883> lush: ok, I've broken enough rules in this channel today.
[15:14] <lush> tgm4883: ))
[15:14] <lush> ty man ;)
[15:15] <ObrienDave> tgm4883, we're keeping score ;P
[15:15] <someone12> ioria: graphical with mouse support, so let's yes?
[15:15] <tgm4883> ObrienDave: if that is true, then I'm probably winning :)
[15:15] <ObrienDave> lol
[15:15] <someone12> +say
[15:16] <ioria> someone12 dual boot ?
[15:16] <someone12> I have dual boot on another hdd, but now I want to install ubuntu on an empty ssd
[15:17] <someone12> I actually disconnected the hdd during the installtion to be sure..
[15:17] <tgm4883> someone12: that sounds like exactly what I did
[15:18] <someone12> and your installer freezes/bugs out too? :D
[15:18] <ioria> someone12 did you select correctly your uefi usb for boot ?
[15:19] <someone12> there were 2 options to boot from the usb flash drive. I chose the non-UEFI version. I read that you don't need to choose UEFI if you don't use dual boot.
[15:20] <tgm4883> someone12: why not choose UEFI?
[15:20] <tgm4883> UEFI is great!
[15:20] <someone12> what is the advantage
[15:20] <tgm4883> faster boot, better looking boot screen
[15:20] <daftykins> *tumbleweed*
[15:20] <tgm4883> I'm sure there are others
[15:20] <ioria> someone12 are you sure your ssd is ok , i mean not damaged ?
[15:21] <lush> tgm4883: that was a really nice tip!
[15:21] <tgm4883> someone12: what is the disadvantage?
[15:21] <lush> tgm4883: I'm at least able to manually say my uefi now that it should boot from my hdd
[15:21] <tgm4883> lush: so you can boot linux now?
[15:21] <lush> but I don't see my hdd in my boot-priority order :<
[15:22] <lush> tgm4883: I can boot Windows and my 120% based Kubuntu now
[15:22] <lush> but I can't change the boot order so that my hdd is preferred over the windows :D
[15:22] <someone12> It is a fresh new 850 pro and, gparted had no problems allocating partitions
[15:22] <tgm4883> good
[15:22] <gioankminh> hello
[15:22] <lush> someone12: 850evo here :)
[15:22] <gioankminh> i am a new ubuntu
[15:22] <ioria> someone12 has been used in RAID ?
[15:22] <gioankminh> my version 14.04
[15:22] <lush> yo gioankminh
[15:22] <lush> welcome
[15:22] <someone12> I am not using RAID
[15:23] <luckybunny> aaagh
[15:23] <gioankminh> i install Wine 1.7
[15:23] <lush> tgm4883: aah and it works through chainloading, so it seems like grub just fires up the windows boot loader
[15:23] <daftykins> gioankminh: you can type more words per sentence
[15:23] <lush> so reinstalling grub on /dev/sda may have faild it :)
[15:23] <luckybunny> my menus in the title bar aren't serving me too well any more. Title bars are white and the fonts on them are white also. All I did was upgrade to 15.04
[15:24] <gioankminh> and i set EXE app, i didn't run with addmin
[15:24] <ioria> someone12 try swith sata connector
[15:24] <luckybunny> I remember days when you could customise your theme
[15:24] <tgm4883> gioankminh: please don't use enter as punctuation
[15:24] <ioria> switch
[15:24] <luckybunny> I like adwaita, but I want to change a few things about it
[15:26] <someone12> ioria: I have the ssd mounted right now and can write to it (from my dual boot setup on the hdd)
[15:27] <someone12> although only as root :s
[15:28] <ioria> someone12 ' try Ubuntu' works ?
[15:28] <someone12> I will boot from the usb flash drive as uefi and try again
[15:28] <someone12> yes live booting works
[15:28] <Kartagis> I'm running 14.04 with gnome atm and alt+tab is not working even though I set it in keyboard shortcuts. this is annoying. can you help?
[15:28] <gioankminh> i installed and i set EXE app, i didn't run with addmin
[15:29] <ioria> someone12 format the drive with ext4 from there
[15:29] <daftykins> gioankminh: please stop repeating. you have to phrase a question to get a reply. try asking in #winehq
[15:29] <backbox> hi
[15:30] <someone12> ioria: the entire ssd? I partitioned it as described here (http://askubuntu.com/questions/343268/how-to-use-manual-partitioning-during-installation) in my working setup
[15:31] <ioria> someone12 ah, ok
[15:31] <Saw> Hi, I just installed fresh ubuntu 14.04.01 server on a vm, and having some network issues. At first I had on network interface, and later (after boot) I added a second one. And although the first one is configured (and correctly, I have internet connection), I can't seem to any files in /etc/udev/rules.d/ . Also, sudo udevadm trigger ( with and without --action=add ) doesn't regenerate the net persistent rules file in there.
[15:32] <Saw> So first, how does ubuntu 'link' between the (working) eth0 and the mac address? And how do I generate the file?
[15:32] <someone12> I'll be back in 30min if it also does not work with UEFI
[15:32] <dejavou42> I'm having a very annoying problem with suspend. After resuming from suspend, the lock screen appears, and when I click on my account, I get an endless loop of blackscreen/desktop and back to the lock screen
[15:33] <kokut> Hello, Is there a way to make a bootable partition out of my current installation to back it up in another HD?
[15:33] <gioankminh> in #winehq no body oinline
[15:33] <dejavou42> I have auto login enabled, and I'm assuming that the user account isn't being authenticated, so it kicks me back out to the lock screen
[15:34] <fragtion> Lo all.. I hope someone can help? Since update to 15.04 (which now uses systemd by default), my shutdown/reboots are pausing for exactly 10 minutes before poweroff/reboot completes respectively. I can't seem to find any clear issues in syslog, and I've tried adding a dmesg on shutdown which is also void of anything seemingly useful. I can ping the machine fine during these 10 minutes, but no
[15:34] <fragtion> ssh. Monitor just shows a "_" character at top left of the screen during this pause and I cant seem to switch to another tty to debug ?
[15:34] <luckybunny> is there any way I can change the colour of my title bars without changing the theme they're using?
[15:34] <luckybunny> white text on white bar really isn't working for my
[15:34] <luckybunny> me*
[15:38] <tgm4883> fragtion: looks like you can debug it a bit by doing http://freedesktop.org/wiki/Software/systemd/Debugging/#shutdowncompleteseventually
[15:38] <RosieyJoy> ahora ?
[15:39] <eduardobovolon> legal
[15:40] <daftykins> RosieyJoy: do you have a support question?
[15:40] <RosieyJoy> Not yet just started daftykins
[15:41] <sarkyniin> �DCC SEND startkeylogger 0 0 0
[15:41] <OerHeks> sarkyniin, funny you
[15:41] <sarkyniin> looks like it doesn't werk anymore
[15:41] <sarkyniin> :(
[15:42] <OerHeks> sounds like a good thing, sarkyniin
[15:42] <fragtion> tgm4883: thanks for suggestion. I've tried that already, but the dmesg log it created was useless
[15:42] <tgm4883> fragtion: can you post teh logs?
[15:43] <fragtion> tgm4883: ya sure, gimme a sec, & thanks
[15:45] <fragtion> http://pastebin.com/MSZ3eQXU
[15:46] <fragtion> thats the shutdown-log.txt according to the debug instructions
[15:46] <fragtion> and here's syslog http://pastebin.com/VtVzK4tV
[15:47] <Guest58139> s
[15:48] <tgm4883> yea that first log really has nothing in it
[15:48] <fragtion> ya lol
[15:53] <dimitry7> j #netfilter
[15:54] <escargotdu25> hi everybody
[15:54] <escargotdu25> can anybody help me ?
[15:55] <daftykins> escargotdu25: not until we know your question
[15:55] <escargotdu25> I nedd help regarding the operation mode "paste" and a software : empathy
[15:56] <daftykins> can you phrase those as questions?
[15:57] <WilliamDotAT> can ubuntu boot from NVMe with EFI?
[15:57] <daftykins> NVMe is a bit new so not sure.
[15:58] <daftykins> it's unlikely you even have hardware to support it
[15:58] <escargotdu25> daftykins, first i still don't know how to "paste" a result obtained in the command line into here for solve a problerm
[15:58] <daftykins> escargotdu25: well first up you don't paste into IRC
[15:58] <daftykins> !paste | escargotdu25
[16:00] <WilliamDotAT> daftykins, i do
[16:00] <WilliamDotAT> a PCIe SSD
[16:00] <OerHeks> WilliamDotAT, i think so, see http://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/trusty/man4/nvme.4freebsd.html
[16:01] <OerHeks> to load the driver as a module at boot, place the following line in loader.conf(5): nvme_load="YES"
[16:02] <WilliamDotAT> neat
[16:02] <daftykins> WilliamDotAT: that is not all you require for NVMe. the drive firmware must support it, the motherboard chipset must - and the EFI must be capable of booting NVMe
[16:02] <OerHeks> there is one way to ind out, no?
[16:03] <MonkeyDust> havent followed, what's NVMe?
[16:03] <WilliamDotAT> replacement for AHCI
[16:03] <OerHeks> MonkeyDust, newer controller, that is build for ssd's. Apple has got it in its new mbp
[16:03] <daftykins> non volatile memory express, AHCI's successor
[16:03] <WilliamDotAT> as AHCI has downsides with flash storage
[16:03] <daftykins> it's not a controller, it's a protocol
[16:04] <WilliamDotAT> ye OSX supports it natively
[16:04] <WilliamDotAT> since 10.9
[16:04] <daftykins> doesn't mean it can use it on all models.
[16:09] <escargotdu25> daftykins, i have pastebinit installed on my computer but i cannot find on my key board the "strait line"
[16:10] <daftykins> well you might be in another part of the world on another keyboard layout, but mine is left shift + the \ key beside it
[16:10] <daftykins> also, it is called pipe :)
[16:13] <ioria> escargotdu25, maybe yours is top left.. under ESC
[16:18] <pavlos> escargotdu25, if you use a french keyboard, it could be AltGr "6", looks like a vertical line but it is 2 smaller lines
[16:26] <kokut> why when i try to find out the file size of a bunch of folders in ubuntu it starts counting and counting again and counting again and it never finishes counting the files?
[16:27] <SchrodingersScat> kokut: how are you trying to do this?
[16:27] <kokut> SchrodingersScat: right click, properties
[16:28] <SchrodingersScat> kokut: du -sh /path/to/directory ?
[16:29] <kokut> SchrodingersScat: that works but i would have to add every folder, very annoying and time consuming
[16:31] <pavlos> kokut, I use 14.04, unity, nautilus and right click properties works w/o issue
[16:32] <kokut> pavlos try it in a bunch of folders with a really big amount of files? i'm using it on 400k files or more ~ 10GB
[16:32] <pavlos> kokut, tried it on my backup ... 9,232 files, 130 GB
[16:33] <kokut> pavlos: well what the faq is wrong with my filesystem then? it used to happen with another HD as well so its not that
[16:38] <lush> seems like I timed out
[16:38] <fragtion> yes, indeed, after 246 seconds
[16:40] <brando222> anyone have any good tutorial videos for kdenlive video editing for a video editing noob? i want to start editing fishing videos for my brother. tia
[16:40] <lush> fragtion: hehe
[16:40] <fragtion> =]
[16:41] <abm2700> hi guys, how to i can install Nvidia in ubuntu 13.10
[16:41] <fragtion> you tried googling that one ?
[16:41] <MonkeyDust> abm2700 13.10 is dead, upgrade to a supported release, then ask again
[16:42] <brando222> not sure if the google reply was for me, but i've youtubed a few on kdenlive, watched a couple, but just thought i'd check here for anyone who might have a "for beginners" tutorial
[16:48] <c9ae6f> I'm trying to set up grub from a liveCD in a chroot environment. Does anyone know how to do that?
[16:49] <daftykins> which part specifically?
[16:49] <daftykins> !grub
[16:49] <daftykins> !chroot
[16:49] <alberto_> Hello everyone
[16:49] <daftykins> hi
[16:49] <c9ae6f> the update-grub command. I get "error: cannot find a device for / (is /dev mounted?)
[16:50] <daftykins> c9ae6f: follow the above chroot guide, you need to mount more than just the disks
[16:50] <escargotdu25> hi everybody
[16:50] <thegrreat> hi
[16:50] <daftykins> hi again
[16:50] <c9ae6f> thanks daftykins, I will
[16:50] <guest-CgyyGu> HEY
[16:51] <c9ae6f> guest-CgyyGu: HI!
[16:51] <escargotdu25> daftykins, i have a question : i read the tuto but i still can't configure and use empathy could you help me to ?
[16:51] <daftykins> escargotdu25: not since i don't use it myself, nope
[16:51] <daftykins> escargotdu25: ask the channel though and someone might know
[16:52] <escargotdu25> daftykins, ok thanks
[16:52] <Knight80> I'm trying to tune channels with the "scan" utility, but when I type scan /usr/share/dvb/dvb-t/es-Madrid >channels.conf, it tells me "Initial tuning failed"
[16:52] <Knight80> Any ideas?
[16:52] <navarro> ciao
[16:52] <escargotdu25> does someone use the instant messenger empathy ?
[16:52] <navarro> !list
[16:53] <pavlos> c9ae6f, you need this ... for i in /dev /dev/pts /proc /sys /run; do sudo mount -B $i /mnt$i; done
[16:54] <sjoshi> Hello, pidgin is removed form Ubuntu15.04?
[16:54] <sjoshi> from*
[16:54] <xangua> sudo apt-get install pidgin sjoshi
[16:54] <MonkeyDust> !find pidgin
[16:55] <MonkeyDust> it's till there
[16:55] <sjoshi> IIRC, pidgin was part of Ubuntu by default
[16:55] <MonkeyDust> still*
[16:55] <xangua> like half a decade before, yes
[16:55] <xangua> it came perinstalled
[16:55] <MonkeyDust> sjoshi yes, some apps have been left out of the iso, to keep it small
[16:55] <escargotdu25> how to use pidgin please ?
[16:55] <sjoshi> MonkeyDust: ok, sounds good!
[16:55] <sjoshi> thanks xangua MonkeyDust :)!
[16:56] <MonkeyDust> escargotdu25 open the app and use it, is the best way to learn
[16:56] <escargotdu25> i have it installed on my pc but i can't configure and use it
[16:56] <c9ae6f> pavlos: Thanks, I ran this command again. The only thing is that because I'm using btrfs, I had to change /mnt$i to /mnt/@$i
[16:56] <Guest56575> pidgin is a messenger it's sims msn
[16:56] <navarro> ciao
[16:56] <navarro> !list
[16:56] <sjoshi> escargotdu25: what you protocol you want to configure?
[16:57] <c9ae6f> pavlos: this doesn't seem to work however..
[16:57] <sjoshi> Do we have any application in ubuntu like teamviewer?
[16:57] <daftykins> yeah. teamviewer
[16:57] <Knight80> I'm trying to tune channels with the "scan" utility, but when I type scan /usr/share/dvb/dvb-t/es-Madrid >channels.conf, it tells me "Initial tuning failed"
[16:57] <Knight80> Any ideas?
[16:57] <MonkeyDust> sjoshi teamviewer works fine in ubuntu
[16:57] <Knight80> I'm on Ubuntu 15.04
[16:58] <Knight80> I like it so far, but I've got this little problem
[16:58] <sjoshi> MonkeyDust: But teamviwer can only be used for personal use, i am looking for any application which provide free commercial usage as well
[17:01] <pavlos> c9ae6f, that loop happens before you chroot ... you should be able to see the mount points ... the / you put is not needed, it picks it from the loop. $i=/dev, then /mnt$i becomes /mnt/dev
[17:01] <escargotdu25> MonkeyDust, that is what i'm trying to do :)
[17:01] <gr33n7007h> Knight80: I have more luck with w-scan
[17:02] <escargotdu25> sjoshi, what do you mean ? i first have to create an account
[17:02] <Knight80> gr33n7007h I used to have more luck with "scan", but now it just doesn't work
[17:02] <c9ae6f> pavlos: when I created the btrfs filesystem, there are two 'folders?' inside of /mnt. @ and @home.
[17:02] <Knight80> gr33n7007h However, when I created channels.conf with w-scan, it didn't work either, at least with vlc
[17:03] <kokut> anyone tried pigz?
[17:03] <gr33n7007h> install w-scan then type: w_scan -c ES -X > channels.conf
[17:03] <gr33n7007h> or something like that
[17:03] <Knight80> gr33n7007h Thank you
[17:03] <pavlos> c9ae6f, I'm not using btrfs ... sorry
[17:03] <c9ae6f> pavlos: the command executes fine, but I still get the error.
[17:04] <gr33n7007h> then mplayer dvb://"channel_name"
[17:04] <escargotdu25> #ubuntu.fr
[17:05] <thms> Why is ubuntu forcing his users to misuses sudo ?
[17:05] <thms> sudo was meant to allow only special command, especially not "sudo su"
[17:05] <xangua> !details | thms
[17:05] <sjoshi> escargotdu25: I suggest reading -> https://pidgin.im
[17:06] <sjoshi> escargotdu25: this will help you to understand what pidgin is all about
[17:06] <thms> xangua: I think it's just missleading. One should only set sudoers to be able to exec a certain set of command.
[17:06] <thms> IMHO.
[17:06] <escargotdu25> sjoshi, ok thanks i will do that
[17:06] <thms> And one user able to sudo su to disable root access.
[17:09] <m4t> hey for some reason my apt-get is saying 404 not found when running update - it's looking for Packages, but not Packages.gz or Packages.bz2 it seems
[17:09] <m4t> started doing this after i cancelled a do-release-upgrade
[17:11] <Lyze> Hello :) When using "xsetwacom --set 10 MapToOutput DVI-D0" it gives me an error that it can't find the monitor; However as you see in this pastebin I have the monitor connected: http://paste.ubuntu.com/10888214/
[17:11] <Lyze> * DVI-D-0
[17:14] <ubuntu-mate> Hi!
[17:16] <Lyze> ubuntu-mate: hi
[17:19] <izik> how can I put a script that will run whenever the xorg system start in ubuntu?
[17:21] <MonkeyDust> izik there's also #bash
[17:21] <izik> but infact it should be xorg application...
[17:23] <ioria> izik sometime i used /etc/xdg/lxsession/Lubuntu/autostart
[17:23] <huhZah> cron
[17:24] <m4t> geh sudo find /var/lib/apt -type f -exec rm {} \+ fixed it
[17:24] <m4t> bug
[17:24] <kylin> 这里也有活人？
[17:25] <izik> ioria: i see inside /etc/xdg/autostarts alot of files that end with .desktop...
[17:26] <ioria> izik no, that ... the path is for Lubuntu, don't remember the equivalent in Ubu
[17:27] <c9ae6f> Does anyone know how to use dm-crypt/plain on ubuntu? I set it up on arch, but ubuntu is a little more challenging.
[17:27] <ioria> izik try gnome session
[17:28] <c9ae6f> https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Dm-crypt/Encrypting_an_entire_system#Plain_dm-crypt
[17:28] <c9ae6f> I couldn't find any similar guide for ubuntu.
[17:28] <izik> ioria; yea i want wondering if there is a generic place so when someone will use kde/xfce it will still work
[17:30] <ioria> izik http://en.kioskea.net/faq/3348-ubuntu-executing-a-script-at-startup-and-shutdown
[17:30] <talanor> Hey everyone, I have an usb drive issue (I am currently on 15.04), whenever I plug my drive in the usb port, it is detected but not recognized. it is detected by lsusb: http://paste.ubuntu.com/10888422/ but doesn't show up in /dev
[17:30] <fragtion> tgm4883: btw found the problem, was mysqld taking 10 minutes to shut down. was a stray process that I found through debug shell, reinstalled mysql-server and problem solved =D
[17:30] <talanor> plus, this message loops every 30 seconds in dmesg logs: http://paste.ubuntu.com/10888428/
[17:31] <talanor> which is an improvement over 14.10 which just did a kernel panic (the drive is a Lacie drive)
[17:32] <talanor> anyone have a clue of how I could fix that?
[17:33] <izik> ioria: i know /etc/local.d question is, if my app is need to access xorg, how can i make it useful if it would not be executed from the xorg context?
[17:34] <ioria> izik it will be executed in xorg contest
[17:35] <ioria> izik but with rc.local
[17:35] <ioria> izik sorry, not with the rc.local method
[17:36] <ioria> izik the first i gave you...
[17:36] <izik> ioria:ok thanks let me digg it a little bit
[17:37] <ioria> izik right after login.... run locate autostart and check them..
[17:40] <php101uk> Can anyone help with this? http://serverfault.com/questions/685575/route-traffic-for-specific-ip-range-through-specific-network-interface
[17:40] <st_iron> hi
[17:41] <ioria> izik there are plenty.... http://askubuntu.com/questions/48321/how-do-i-start-applications-automatically-on-login
[17:41] <st_iron> is it confirmed that ThinkPad T440p can run 14.04 smoothly with "nomodeset" and legacy boot without any problems? does anyone have any experience with it?
[17:43] <AJH101> Hi what are people's first impressions of vv?
[17:44] <SchrodingersScat> AJH101: based on a statistical analysis of words said here and #ubuntu-offtopic, conclusion: ubuntu
[17:44] <solarsail0r> looking for a free app that will allow me to create html5 flowcharts with tooltips on hover with working links. Anybody heard of something like that?
[17:44] <khildin_> st_iron, I run 14.04 on an E540 without problems... I think T440 will have no problems either
[17:44] <khildin_> AJH101, haven' t installed vv yet
[17:44] <khildin_> and probaly stick with LTS
[17:44] <st_iron> khildin_: thanks, I think it should not have problems with wifi as well
[17:45] <khildin_> what chipset does the t440 use? broadcom?
[17:45] <AJH101> I am planning that the LTS next year will be my last upgrade fr this machine.
[17:46] <st_iron> khildin_: intel 7260
[17:46] <Mneuro> In 15.04 if I install kubuntu-desktop will I get kde4 or plasma5?
[17:48] <daftykins> !info kubuntu-desktop
[17:49] <daftykins> ah still utopic info.
[17:49] <khildin_> st_iron, why not just try it? get an image of your disk first for unexpected problems so you can revert to old
[17:49] <elstud> hi from sunny california
[17:50] <khildin_> Mneuro, see http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2014/10/kubuntu-15-04-vivid-plasma-5-desktop-default default is plasma 5
[17:50] <khildin_> but changing DE is easy enough...
[17:51] <asarch> How do upgrade to the newest release in CLI?
[17:51] <asarch> *do you...
[17:51] <daftykins> what are you on now?
[17:51] <asarch> dist-upgrade and full-upgrade seems not to be working
[17:52] <daftykins> sudo do-release-upgrade should still work
[17:52] <daftykins> that's because dist-upgrade does not upgrade version.
[17:52] <asarch> Thank you daftykins
[17:52] <asarch> Thank you very much :-)
[17:52] <daftykins> asarch: you must be on 14.10 for this
[17:54] <terackus> hoe do I fix my cd rom it was burning a iso and got an error now the cd rom doesn't work
[17:56] <st_iron> khildin_: still I don't have the machine, I am just making sure that it will be a good choice for work
[17:56] <OerHeks> terackus, once burned, nothing you can do to repair it.
[17:56] <OerHeks> terackus, what is the size of that iso? ubuntu iso is bigger than a cd size
[17:56] <inproblem> hi, i'm unable to format a partition from gparted. It says "WARNING: Wiping physical label from /dev/sdaX of volume group 'groupname'. Can't open /dev/sdaX exclusively - not removing. Mounted filesystem? "
[17:57] <inproblem> I checked with the mount command, its not mounted. I tried removing it with pvremove --force but that didn't work either
[17:58] <metot> Hi, how do I know the list of available pack after apt-get update? is it saved into a file ?
[17:58] <inproblem> any ideas? Looks like an lvm volume that refuses to delete
[17:58] <terackus> not the CD its self i can put any disk in the play and ubuntu does not show theres any disk in the player now
[17:58] <nszceta_> ubuntu@ip-10-0-2-100:~$ update-rc.d uat-emperor defaults
[17:58] <nszceta_> error: unable to read /etc/init.d/uat-emperor at /usr/sbin/update-rc.d line 176.
[17:58] <nszceta_> what do
[18:00] <Mneuro> Where is the setting in Plasma 5 to disable effects in fullscreen applications?
[18:00] <terackus> its 7,6 gb I used a 8.5 DL DVD but now the Drive it slef does not work
[18:01] <daftykins> Mneuro: you may want #kubuntu
[18:02] <OerHeks> terackus, is it a movie? ubuntu should show an index anyway, else that iso is corrupted, or faulty disc
[18:04] <terackus> I've burnt the ISO before but this time i got an error and now the DVD Drive will not read any type of disk I put in \
[18:04] <reborn> have a tried Gnome Disk?
[18:09] <nszceta_> what does "echo $$ > /var/run/nodetest.pid" do
[18:09] <nszceta_> w.r.t. $$
[18:10] <OerHeks> nszceta_, you can try it yourself, maybe that number gives a clue> echo $$
[18:10] <rking> I have a package installed "ibm-notes" everything works fine however once I close the application and try to re-open it won't re-open. I have looked and tried to kill all processes but nothing happens until I logout / reboot. Any ideas?
[18:10] <nszceta_> OerHeks makes sense but its all run in the context of upstart
[18:10] <nszceta_> so thats a problem
[18:11] <OerHeks> nszceta_, "$$ is the PID (process identifier) of the current shell (not subshell). Within a script, inside a subshell, $$ returns the PID of the script, not the subshell."
[18:11] <nszceta_> awesome, thanks!!
[18:11] <OerHeks> yw
[18:11] <oro> hi all, is there a way where I can extract wpa_supplicant conf values for a NetworkManager connection? I have a problem where setting up wpa2/leap with NM does not connect but with a 4linelong wpa_supplicant.conf it does. I wanna find out what's the difference between the two configurations
[18:12] <OerHeks> rking, didn't you ask yesterday too? anyway, did you install the 9.0.1 fix package? http://www-01.ibm.com/support/docview.wss?uid=swg21671312
[18:13] <rking> @OerHeks, No I never asked. and yes I have.
[18:15] <OerHeks> rking, then i have no clue, you could try to file a bugreport, but it is a 3th party app..
[18:16] <rking> @OerHeks, yeah I did file a bugreport. Support felt lost when it came to the issue. Ha
[18:18] <skinux> How do I fix this? Configuration file "/home/skinux/.kde/share/config/filelightrc" not writable. I tried chmod 775 but it didn't work.
[18:27] <daftykins> skinux: don't throw permissions commands at a task without understanding, pastebin the line of the file when you "ls -al" within its' path
[18:27] <danut> hello , i m begginer in linux, who is cmd for tar.gz file install ?
[18:28] <OerHeks> danut double click on that file, and fileroller will open.
[18:28] <hiexpo> danut, you have to compile it
[18:29] <OerHeks> hiexpo, sometimes yes, not sure what is inside that tar.
[18:29] <OerHeks> anyway a readme will tell.
[18:29] <danut> 0erHeks thx
[18:30] <hiexpo> OerHeks, true could be a deb file in there
[18:30] <Zerkalerka> danut: tar -xzvf filename.tar.gz then compile
[18:31] <Goose_> Help~
[18:31] <Goose_> Help!
[18:31] <Goose_> I installed kubuntu but all i get is a black screen with a cursor at the desktop
[18:32] <Goose_> I fellback to unity but now I just get a totally glitched out.unusable screen
[18:32] <nszceta_> I cannot figure out how to write a service for Ubuntu 14.04
[18:32] <Goose_> Help
[18:32] <nszceta_> Any suggestions appreciated
[18:32] <nszceta_> Google yields NOTHING useful
[18:32] <Goose_> What kind of service?
[18:32] <nszceta_> I just want to run a program
[18:32] <Goose_> run the program name from terminal?
[18:33] <nszceta_> nah, want it to be supervised and run on boot
[18:33] <nszceta_> like a systemd equivalent would be a systemd service
[18:33] <Goose_> Cron would be your answer
[18:33] <nszceta_> negative
[18:33] <nszceta_> I'd write a sysv init script
[18:33] <nszceta_> but doesn't ubuntu use upstart?
[18:33] <nszceta_> and I can't figure out how to get a basic upstart script to install / start
[18:33] <nszceta_> so that's a problem...
[18:34] <ejuan> nszceta_, why dont you use the scripts in /etc/rc2.d as an example?
[18:34] <nszceta_> because its all SysV init?
[18:34] <nszceta_> Is there no upstart in 14.04
[18:34] <nszceta_> ?
[18:35] <nszceta_> theoretically I could just dump a sysv init script into /etc/init.d and use "update-rc.d <service> defaults" to install it?
[18:35] <nszceta_> because I keep looking for the upstart hookup but I cant find it
[18:36] <nszceta_> totally lost.....
[18:36] <nszceta_> can't wait for systemd in the next LTS
[18:36] <skinux> daftykins: Configuration file "/home/skinux/.kde/share/config/filelightrc" not writable.
[18:37] <ejuan> nszceta_, im on 12.04 but it looks like all the scripts are sysv
[18:37] <daftykins> skinux: no i want to see the permissions on it, so run "ls -al" inside that path
[18:38] <skinux> That is ls -al
[18:38] <skinux> Oh whoops.
[18:38] <daftykins> i somewhat doubt it
[18:38] <skinux> -rwxrwxr-x 1 root root 561 Apr 12 15:26 filelightrc
[18:39] <daftykins> skinux: right so it's currently owned by root, perhaps that's not going to work well given it's in your home folder
[18:40] <daftykins> skinux: "sudo chown skinux: /home/skinux/.kde/share/config/filelightrc"
[18:41] <hesham_> hi
[18:41] <daftykins> lo
[18:42] <anternat> hi, is teher only 1 my.cnf in ubuntu?
[18:43] <daftykins> mysql config file? should be.
[18:43] <anternat> yes
[18:43] <Steven-> My sound works, but trying to control volume with amixer it will only lists IEC958 (S/PDIF) when u user 'amixer scontrols' -- Any ideas where I might go to get amixer to see my sound device?
[18:43] <anternat> but how come i dont see rules in my.cnf although phpmyadmin gets values for them???
[18:44] <daftykins> that would be a question for #php
[18:45] <ejuan> Anarchic, phpmyadmin might be setting the values for the variables without writing them to the config file.
[18:46] <ejuan> Anarchic, i have no experience with phpmyadmin so that is just my guess.
[18:46] <bekks> athan: there is only one mysql config file, yes.
[18:46] <anternat> ejuan>> SET GLOBAL ft_min_word_len = 3 results in an error, says they are read only
[18:46] <vlt> Steven-: try F6 to select your card
[18:46] <athan> bekks: Wrong number, sorry :P
[18:47] <ejuan> anternat, is mysqld running as the mysql user or some other user?
[18:47] <Steven-> vlt I'm using amixer not alsamixer
[18:47] <bekks> athan: You have to set that in the config file.
[18:47] <ejuan> and when you run that set global command are you using the root myslq user?
[18:47] <athan> :|
[18:49] <anternat> ejuan>> that command i ran thru phpmyadmin
[18:49] <anternat> and got that error
[18:49] <bekks> anternat: You have to set that value in the mysql config file.
[18:50] <anternat> as for your first question i dont know if it is running as some other user or not,but normally i dont touch things in config files to keep them as they are set defaults
[18:50] <bekks> anternat: The value you want to modify cannot be set otherwise.
[18:50] <bekks> anternat: Which Ubuntu do you have?
[18:50] <anternat> bekks>> What i dont understand is,if thers no rule in my.cnf how come phpmyadmin gets them??
[18:51] <anternat> 12.04.5
[18:51] <anternat> server
[18:51] <bekks> anternat: "Default values."
[18:51] <anternat> bekss>> where do those defaults exist other than own config files?
[18:51] <SaucisseCocktail> hey
[18:52] <andrew_> hello
[18:52] <andrew_> i ma new to the ubuntu chats
[18:52] <SaucisseCocktail> welcome
[18:52] <andrew_> thanks
[18:52] <bekks> anternat: No. Default values are default values, because they arent defined in a config file, but the program itself sets them BECAUSE they arent defined elsewhere.
[18:52] <andrew_> I love ubuntu
[18:52] <andrew_> just installed it 64bits is so fast
[18:52] <SaucisseCocktail> :)
[18:53] <SaucisseCocktail> nice
[18:53] <andrew_> i am getting used to all the apps
[18:53] <SaucisseCocktail> U find everything you need?
[18:53] <andrew_> i got the tor browser
[18:53] <andrew_> just looking for programs or apps to try
[18:54] <anternat> bekks>> then the only choice is to add them via my.cnf(per your suggestion)
[18:54] <bekks> anternat: Thats what I said, yes.
[18:54] <andrew_> any suggestions
[18:54] <andrew_> any good programs
[18:54] <anternat> ok,will give it a try, still i dont get how come a value is default without having to exist in a config file in linux..
[18:54] <bekks> anternat: for what?
[18:55] <andrew_> is there a low orbit for ubuntu
[18:55] <bekks> anternat: The same way as on other operating systems - the programs itself define them.
[18:55] <andrew_> or an ion cannon?
[18:55] <ejuan> andrew_, lol you could user hping for that
[18:55] <anternat> okay,thanks bekks
[18:55] <andrew_> kool
[18:56] <ejuan> err hping3
[18:56] <SaucisseCocktail> what is low orbit?
[18:56] <Ademan> is there a package containing something like /usr/share/dict/words but divided into parts of speech? adjectives, nouns etc
[18:56] <ejuan> ddos tool
[18:56] <ejuan> lol
[18:57] <andrew_> downloading now
[18:57] <SaucisseCocktail> lol
[18:58] <daftykins> andrew_: try and keep the silly questions out thanks :)
[18:58] <andrew_> what do you mean dafty?
[18:59] <andrew_> just a question
[18:59] <daftykins> keep your serious face on
[18:59] <andrew_> good
[18:59] <c9ae6f> is there a simple way to do full disk encryption on ubuntu with a keyfile?
[19:00] <daftykins> !encryption
[19:00] <daftykins> lol 8.10+.
[19:00] <thms> What's the use of /usr/share/dict/words oO
[19:01] <thms> c9ae6f: LVM encryption maybe ? But I don't know if it works with a keyfile.
[19:02] <AnnonMCO> hello\
[19:02] <daftykins> hi
[19:02] <bekks> thms: LVM does not support encryption. Thats implemented by FDE.
[19:02] <lungaro> Anyone know where I should voice my opinion (i'm against it) with ubuntu switching from debs to snappy?
[19:03] <AnnonMCO> what's up?
[19:03] <ejuan> ubuntu is switching away from debs?
[19:03] <AnnonMCO> anything new?
[19:03] <c9ae6f> thms: dm-crypt is what uses
[19:03] <lungaro> ejuan, http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=Ubuntu-15.10-DEB-To-Snap
[19:03] <bekks> Ah, a moronix link.
[19:04] <lungaro> lolz.. so i've never heard of this site. not too credible, I take it?
[19:05] <bandit-led> lungaro, both will be available to install from.. with ubuntu moving to touch devices a way to install similar to a firmware is needed, seems like a good idea imho
[19:06] <lungaro> cool
[19:06] <bekks> lungaro: Personally, I just ignore that site for the incredibly FUD that was published there in the past. If that changed meanwhile, I still dont read that site.
[19:06] <ejuan> lungaro, if ubuntu switches away from debs I will just use debian.
[19:06] <bandit-led> lungaro, see https://developer.ubuntu.com/en/snappy/ why its a good idea
[19:06] <bandit-led> the name is meh but the idea seems sound
[19:06] <lungaro> Yeah, me too (i'd switch the second they drop .deb)
[19:07] <lungaro> thanks bandit-led
[19:07] <bandit-led> lungaro, no problem i was reading about it this week and was like wait what..
[19:07] <thms> http://www.webupd8.org/2015/04/ubuntu-desktop-to-eventually-switch-to.html
[19:07] <thms> regarding Snappy / .deb.
[19:07] <lungaro> I dont pay too close attention to what distro's are doing so I was pretty shocked to see this headline
[19:07] <escargotdu25> hi everybody !
[19:08] <bandit-led> lungaro, it was an attention getting headline but i wouldnt worry about it yet
[19:08] <lungaro> just annoys me honestly I just started using aptly and its pretty amazing just to read that headline I was like awww crap
[19:08] <escargotdu25> can anyone help me with a problem with instant messenger pidgin ?
[19:08] <bekks> !ask | escargotdu25
[19:09] <holopsia> bonjour
[19:09] <thms> escargotdu25: what's your problem.
[19:09] <thms> holopsia: #ubuntu.fr for french.
[19:09] <SaucisseCocktail> bonjour, its english :p
[19:09] <SaucisseCocktail> holopsia, correction #ubuntu-fr
[19:09] <holopsia> ok, thanks
[19:10] <thms> ho, sorry.
[19:10] <escargotdu25> thms, i have pidgin installed on my pc but i cannot create an account to use it
[19:11] <bekks> Why not?
[19:11] <tnkhanh> hi where do I download the latest ubuntu on dev branch
[19:11] <cocoony> hello,i have installed xubuntu and i want to install wine older version...i got always error and when i install playonlinux i cant instzall ableton live..there is always error POL
[19:11] <thms> escargotdu25: It supports multiple protocoles, what are you trying to use, XMPP (Jabber ?)
[19:12] <thms> escargotdu25: ask the person you want to chat with what protocole they are using..
[19:12] <bekks> cocoony: And we have to guess the error? Pastebin it please and provide the URL.
[19:12] <thms> and where they got their account from.
[19:12] <escargotdu25> thms, that is just the problem i don't know which protocol i should use
[19:12] <cocoony> nekks..i am newbie
[19:12] <cocoony> dont know that all
[19:13] <thms> escargotdu25: XMPP / Jabber is nice.
[19:13] <cocoony> bekks iam newbie
[19:13] <escargotdu25> thms, so how can i do ?
[19:13] <thms> escargotdu25: http://register.jabber.org
[19:13] <bekks> !pastebin | cocoony
[19:13] <thms> escargotdu25: http://www.jabber.org/
[19:13] <SaucisseCocktail> pidgin? can use the protocol you want don't you ?
[19:14] <thms> escargotdu25: there also is pidgin-otr plugin whivh allows off the record messaging (encrypted)
[19:14] <bekks> SaucisseCocktail: No. I can use supported protocols only ;)
[19:14] <cocoony> thx..i must check it out now
[19:14] <cocoony> puuuhhhh :)
[19:15] <theOptimizedCode> hello, how exactly should I dist-upgrade from trusty to vivid?
[19:15] <SaucisseCocktail> lol pidgin support almost all of them
[19:15] <bekks> theOptimizedCode: From trusty to utopic to vivid.
[19:15] <SaucisseCocktail> you amust activate it in the update manager
[19:15] <daftykins> theOptimizedCode: that is not dist-upgrade :)
[19:15] <bekks> SaucisseCocktail: You cannotupdate directly.
[19:15] <Kottizen> Hi everyone! I installed fglrx and now everything gets black when I try to sign in. What should I do? I am still getting graphics though, at the login screen. Running Kubuntu.
[19:16] <theOptimizedCode> daftykins: okay, how exactly is the upgrade done (preferably via apt)?
[19:16] <daftykins> theOptimizedCode: to utopic first.
[19:16] <cocoony> burt did someone of you have experience with ableton,cubase or fruity loops in wine ???
[19:16] <daftykins> theOptimizedCode: you're going to want to backup first :)
[19:16] <daftykins> !appdb | cocoony
[19:17] <escargotdu25> thms, the site is temporarily closed to register account (because of a migration)
[19:17] <cocoony> cool
[19:17] <cocoony> thx
[19:17] <brainwash> cocoony: also, join #winehq and/or #playonlinux
[19:17] <escargotdu25> thms, concerning pidgin-otr plugin, what should i do ?
[19:18] <cocoony> thx so much
[19:20] <cocoony> !appdb | cocoony
[19:20] <SaucisseCocktail> hey all I ve got some troubles
[19:20] <SaucisseCocktail> using usb key on HTPC
[19:20] <cocoony> ok
[19:21] <luc4> Hello! I just upgraded to 15.04 but unfortunately my system won’t boot anymore. I’m stuck at a point where I’m told “Welcome to emergency mode”. I got a root prompt and I used journalctl -xb but… not sure what I should look for…
[19:21] <daftykins> SaucisseCocktail: can you phrase that as a question on one line?
[19:21] <SaucisseCocktail> just working on it 1 sec plz ^^
[19:21] <luc4> Immediately before that, I see a couple of “error: /dev/sdb: No medium found”…
[19:22] <luc4> But I don’t know what sdb is on this pc…
[19:22] <daftykins> optical drive most likely
[19:23] <luc4> yes, likely, so probably not related to the system not booting...
[19:23] <cocoony> ubottu ??? bot ?
[19:23] <luc4> I see a couple of errors of nouveau, but I think I saw those before. Maybe not related either.
[19:24] <siegfried> o
[19:25] <malgorath> Is it possible and reasonable to run ubuntu off a 16GB Usb stick for normal operations? or is that to small?
[19:25] <daftykins> malgorath: using a flash drive permanently isn't wise at all, no
[19:26] <malgorath> What about an external usb3 hard drive?
[19:26] <D2ee> Good evening. I have just tried to update from 14.10 to 15.04. whatever I tried, I end up with UnicodeDecodeError: 'utf-8' codec can't decode byte 0xae in position 337: invalid start byte
[19:27] <D2ee> used do-release-upgrade. any ideea would be be appreciated.
[19:27] <malgorath> I have limited room on my laptop and I'd like to have the option of booting a ubuntu install but I only have about 90gs free and I'm really not wanting to share that with ubuntu on this system. Plus everytime I've instealled ubuntu to dual boot with windows 8.1 it goes all crashy on me and I end up reformating the drive
[19:28] <Tinkerton> Hi folks. Just upgraded to 15.04 (clean install) How do I get back to a 'normal' desktop? Never been a fan of Unity
[19:30] <Mion> install whatever de you want
[19:30] <malgorath> Tinkerton: believe you have to install what ever normal desktop you where using, like gnome3 or KDE
[19:30] <Mion> Tinkerton: unity is the "normal" desktop now btw
[19:30] <Tinkerton> malgorath: ahh, ok. thanks.
[19:30] <SaucisseCocktail> hey
[19:30] <mchelen> Tinkerton: try gnome flashback
[19:30] <mchelen> yeah or gnome3
[19:30] <Mion> sadly ubuntu doesn't ship a plain gnome 3.16 :/
[19:30] <Tinkerton> I'm sure unity works great when you've got a touch screen, but for me it's just cumbersome
[19:30] <bekks> It works fine without a touchscreen, too.
[19:31] <Grimsley> If you're not a fan of Unity why not try lxde, xfce, mate or even cinnamon ?
[19:31] <Tinkerton> Anyone here use cinnamon?
[19:31] <malgorath> Tinkerton: np. I prefer xfde4 but I'm old fashion
[19:31] <Tinkerton> Grimsley: just seen cinnamon. looks promising
[19:31] <bekks> Tinkerton: How do pools help you? :)
[19:31] <Tinkerton> bekks: sorry, I don't understand?
[19:31] <SOLIDPIZZA> is ubuntu 10.04 too old to use?
[19:31] <SaucisseCocktail> five years?
[19:32] <Grimsley> there's no official spin for cinnamon so a min. install + cinnamon should do the trick
[19:32] <SaucisseCocktail> ten releases?
[19:32] <SOLIDPIZZA> I mean, will it cause problems with packages and become unusable
[19:32] <SOLIDPIZZA> SaucisseCocktail, :) I guess it is PRETTY old haha
[19:32] <bekks> Tinkerton: "does anyone..." is a poll :)
[19:32] <brainwash> !eol
[19:33] <SOLIDPIZZA> oh no, that's right. security updates are necessary
[19:33] <SOLIDPIZZA> I'll use something newer, thanks
[19:33] <SaucisseCocktail> but if you just need it for a while, it will do the job without any trouble (live cd use)
[19:33] <bekks> SOLIDPIZZA: Just use 14.04
[19:33] <pavlos> malgorath, consider xubuntu and a usb3.0 drive ... take a look here https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/FromUSBStick
[19:33] <SOLIDPIZZA> SaucisseCocktail, it's for my mom's ancient laptop
[19:33] <bekks> SOLIDPIZZA: thats the current LTS with support up to 2019.
[19:33] <SOLIDPIZZA> I think I'll try xfce
[19:33] <Grimsley> xfce, mate or lxde would work fine on older hardware.
[19:34] <malgorath> pavlos: thank you, I'll loke at that but I'm not wanting to install from a usb3 drive, I want to install to that drive and only run ubuntu from there without touching my laptops internal drives
[19:34] <D2ee> anyone? if its of reference, i'm connecting via ssh
[19:34] <soon> Any ideas where to go for osX support? I'm helping out a mac user friend...
[19:35] <Grimsley> soon, #osx would be the right starting place
[19:35] <malgorath> soon: #mac also is a good place.
[19:35] <Goose_> So i need some help
[19:35] <pavlos> malgorath, usb2 performance is bad, usb3 is better. But still, consider a base install
[19:35] <soon> Tried osx .. All quiet .. I'll try Mac
[19:35] <Goose_> I have lightdm installed but it wont ever load it.
[19:36] <Goose_> It just loads into KDE with a black screen and cursor, not lightdm
[19:36] <malgorath> pavlos: I am not going to go through a wipe and reinstall of my laptop because ubuntu and windows 8.1 don't play nice, I have a usb3 hard drive I can hook up and I just need to install to it I guess
[19:36] <daftykins> !alis | soon there's also..
[19:36] <Grimsley> one of the other irc networks like dalnet or efnet may give you better results for osx or mac support
[19:36] <bekks> soon: #MacOSX
[19:37] <Goose_> I really dont wanna reinstall because kubuntu is fucked
[19:37] <malgorath> Goose_: install a different desktop from CLI
[19:37] <daftykins> don't use that language please, Goose_
[19:37] <OerHeks> tried nomodeset?
[19:37] <Grimsley> it's not so bad unless you customize a lot and use older widgets, etc.
[19:37] <Goose_> No matter what I install it loads through the broken KDE loading screen and brings me there
[19:37] <brainwash> this is a family friendly channel
[19:38] <Goose_> I have installed and uninstalled kubuntu and plasma nothing
[19:38] <Goose_> reinstalled ubuntu-desktop nothing
[19:38] <OerHeks> !nomodeset
[19:38] <Grimsley> what of #kubuntu are they helping you at all?
[19:38] <Goose_> uninstalled sddm and only have lightdm but lightdm wont evenload
[19:38] <EriC^^> Goose_: try to reconfigure lightdm, or purge and reinstall lightdm
[19:39] <EriC^^> dpkg-reconfigure lightdm maybe
[19:39] <Guest1220> all my sound is gone how do i get it back---bryan
[19:39] <Grimsley> pulseaudio or alsa ?
[19:39] <pavlos> malgorath, you can install from a usb to another usb. Nothing touches your laptop. You need to identify the install usb (sdb), target usb (sdc) and go with a base install.
[19:41] <bryan> all my sound is gone how can i get it back?
[19:41] <luc4> Hello! What display service is kubuntu supposed to use? Lightdm?
[19:41] <Tinkerton> is it muted?
[19:41] <Goose_> How can I remove kubuntu? I've purged it and removed it twice but it still loads into broken plasma and gives me the kubuntu splash screen
[19:43] <EriC^^> Goose_: try to reconfigure lightdm, or purge and reinstall lightdm
[19:43] <EriC^^> dpkg-reconfigure lightdm
[19:44] <flipapy> Goose_, have you tried just running a live disk and reinstalling? or maybe using gparted to reformat with all zeros?
[19:44] <skinux> If most of my disk space is used up by /usr/share, that means that it's due to too much software and/or documentation installed, right?
[19:45] <Goose_> I just dont want to have to reinstall just because I tried kubuntu. Like I put plasma 5 on here just to try it and it just wrecked my system
[19:45] <Goose_> turned it on and have berely been able to use it since
[19:45] <Cristian_> Hi, i need a help, i use ubuntu gnome 15, and when i put my mouse in top left the windows show the activit, how i can turn of this shortcut? (sorry my enlish)
[19:45] <flipapy> did you go into bios and remove that formated patition form the boot shedule?
[19:46] <Goose_> No
[19:46] <Goose_> I didn;t know it made a whole new partititon
[19:46] <EriC^^> Goose_: it doesn't
[19:46] <Goose_> ok
[19:47] <Goose_> this is just insane. All I get a black screen for no reason
[19:47] <Goose_> I didn't change anything.
[19:47] <flipapy> Goose_, maybe it doesnt have the ability to run with your graphics?
[19:48] <bryan> could someone tell me how to get sound back on my laptop?
[19:48] <flipapy> idk, if i installed an os on a partitioned drive, i would just go into another os and remove that partition
[19:48] <deadmund_> Is there any equivalent of "aptitude search" using only apt-get ?
[19:48] <deadmund_> Is there any equivalent of "aptitude search" using only apt-get ?
[19:49] <Goose_> I just image removing kubuntu, plasma, and sddm would leave me with unity and lightdm like before. But all I get is broken kubuntu session, even though it's suppsoed to be removed
[19:49] <daftykins> deadmund_: apt-cache search...
[19:49] <ejuan> deadmund, apt-cache search
[19:50] <malgorath> is 60GB enjoy for ubuntu 15.04 for doing just app development? no large media files or anything of that nature.
[19:50] <malgorath> er s/enjoy/enough/
[19:50] <flipapy> sorry Goose_ i dont know how to do that, i would just remove partition, delete, and reinstall with the os i want. good luck
[19:50] <ejuan> deadmund_ you can also see what packages are installed with dpkg --get-selections
[19:50] <deadmund> ejuan: thanks
[19:51] <Goose_> UGH
[19:51] <Goose_> That'd be the second time I'd have to do that because a dm destroted my system'
[19:52] <flipapy> whats a dm?
[19:52] <Cristian_> Hi, i need a help, i use ubuntu gnome 15, and when i put my mouse in top left the windows show the activit, how i can turn of this shortcut? (sorry my enlish)
[19:52] <flipapy> download manager?
[19:52] <Goose_> Just weird. How can kubuntu still load if it is removed?
[19:52] <flipapy> the boot loader
[19:52] <Goose_> display mananger
[19:52] <flipapy> oh
[19:52] <Goose_> like lightdm, sddm, et
[19:52] <daftykins> Goose_: because you probably removed kubuntu-desktop which is a meta package, not all the *actual* packages that make up the kubuntu desktop.
[19:52] <Goose_> Then how would I do that?
[19:53] <flipapy> i had an issue with a linux boot loader, i just set a different drive to load on start up and hit f12 to choose which drive after each restart
[19:53] <flipapy> if i shut down, the system goes to the chosen drive in the bios
[19:53] <daftykins> Goose_: i have no answer for you but know the answer exists online
[19:54] <Kiel182> Hi everyone, I'm using ubuntu gnome 14
[19:55] <bekks> Kiel182: Which 14?
[19:55] <Kiel182> Hi everyone, I'm using ubuntu gnome 14.04, sorry, I hit enter too fast
[19:56] <hiexpo> !ask Kiel182
[19:56] <TonyBoy19> hol
[19:56] <TonyBoy19> Hooola!
[19:59] <Kiel182> So, what I want to do is, I'd like to read a cdrom on my laptop, only it doesn't have a cd reader. So I'd like to read it via ssh while the cd is in another computer, only I can't find it. I've tried to mount it but it then says : mount: /dev/cdrom: can't read superblock
[19:59] <Kiel182> Any clue on how I should do ?
[20:00] <malgorath> Is there anything I should watch out for if I install 15.04 desktop along side windows 8.1?
[20:00] <Kiel182> Sorry if I'm not clear, English isn't my native language :p
[20:00] <SpeccyMan> backup first
[20:00] <malgorath> SpeccyMan: I have that already but I guess another current one today wont hurt
[20:01] <SpeccyMan> better safe than sorry :)
[20:02] <Kiel182> hiexpo, what did you mean ? (I'm new to irc btw)
[20:05] <malgorath> IS there a way to backup my entire drive(hidden files and everything) from the ubuntu installer USB or should I find a windows based app to do it
[20:06] <geri> what can i do about this error: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[20:06] <geri> i copied the .so to /lib ... is that not enough?
[20:07] <geri> here the error: http://ideone.com/kYUsbS
[20:08] <jeffreylevesque> anyone know how to install C++ compiler in ubuntu
[20:08] <jeffreylevesque> is it - sudo apt-get install build-essential?
[20:08] <jeffreylevesque> well, is gcc contained within build-essential?
[20:09] <Poca> jeffreylevesque, yup
[20:09] <Kiel182> jeffreylevesque: yes it is
[20:09] <geri> here the error: http://ideone.com/kYUsbS ... how can i fix this error: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory ?? i copied the .so to /lib
[20:10] <Poca> geri, copy it to /usr/lib
[20:10] <geri> did you see im on root now?
[20:11] <cocoony> some other question...i have installed renoise tracker demo
[20:12] <cocoony> synaptic didnt show that,where can io find it to uninstall now ?
[20:14] <Kiel182> I have to go, I'll ask again later
[20:18] <nith1210> geri: What are you trying to do more generally?
[20:18] <geri> nith1210: you see i run the executable and it needs .so ?
[20:18] <geri> nith1210: and get the error error while loading shared libraries: ... : cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[20:18] <nith1210> geri: Any chance you can use paste.ubuntu.com. A lot of us don't trust other links.
[20:19] <geri> trust? :D
[20:19] <Mion> geri: why are you not using the package manager?
[20:19] <geri> Mion: i cant
[20:19] <Mion> why not?
[20:20] <deamosreapos> Good evening
[20:20] <Mion> if you want to just run it from $HOME then use LD_PRELOAD etc
[20:20] <Mion> see the man page for details
[20:20] <geri> Mion: http://paste.ubuntu.com/10890098/
[20:20] <geri> there we go
[20:21] <deamosreapos> I was wondering if someone could assist me, I am trying to share a folder in Samba and I get a very weird error message
[20:21] <Mion> but *never* run make nor make install as root *ever*
[20:21] <deamosreapos> quote: "'net usershare' returned error 255: net usershare add: cannot convert name "Everyone" to a SID. The connection was refused. Maybe smbd is not running."
[20:22] <geri> Mion: http://paste.ubuntu.com/10890114/
[20:22] <geri> Mion: i know :D
[20:22] <geri> i test some code on my embedded linux
[20:22] <geri> so dont worry
[20:22] <geri> here the new paste: http://paste.ubuntu.com/10890114/
[20:22] <geri> Mion:
[20:23] <geri> Mion: any idea???
[20:27] <Bashing-om> k3asd`: I am on .. have you got your graphics situation under control ?
[20:28] <k3asd`> Bashing-om: hey, I've solved the situation this morning
[20:28] <nith1210> geri: is librp.so also compiled for arm?
[20:28] <nith1210> geri: "file librp.so"
[20:28] <geri> nith1210: yes
[20:28] <k3asd`> Bashing-om: I've reinstalled fglrx the video driver and it works fine now
[20:29] <geri> nith1210: im currenlty on ARM
[20:29] <k3asd`> Bashing-om: I often have the fan running like crazy
[20:29] <nith1210> geri: I gathered from the ldd output and your previous info... I'm not sure why your LD_LIBRARY_PATH doesn't work.
[20:30] <geri> nith1210: do you think it depends on my api_test excutable .... i build it!
[20:30] <geri> ?
[20:31] <Bashing-om> k3asd`: :) .. Have you verified the recommended driver and/or tried a different graphics driver ? What was the result with running with the open source driver ?
[20:33] <cocoony> where did i find my installed programs which are not shown with synaptic
[20:34] <deamosreapos> Noone has an answer to my Samba issue? (seen its a bug but no clear fix hopefully someone has a solution)
[20:35] <nith1210> geri: I agree with Mion that working on this as root is a bad idea unless root is the only thing available on your arm device. LD_LIBRARY_PATH should work regardless of your compilation choices.
[20:35] <Bashing-om> cocoony: Maybe look in "/opt" ?// ' ls -al /opt ' .
[20:35] <nith1210> geri: Any chance you could run "ldd" and "file" on librp.so and pastebin the results?
[20:36] <Mion> readelf is usually better than ldd
[20:36] <share> Jessie, where are you?
[20:36] <graceabel> Good morning everyone.. its 4.34am and I have problem loading my ubuntu 14.04 after running apt-get dist-upgrade....
[20:36] <nith1210> graceabel: Do you have grub installed?
[20:37] <graceabel> should have... I can log in recovery mode
[20:37] <geri> nith1210: its in the paste!!!!!!!
[20:37] <nith1210> graceabel: if you load the previous kernel, does it work?
[20:38] <geri> nith1210 ldd ../../SDK/include/librp.so not a dynamic executable
[20:38] <cocoony> Bashing-om...do i have to install it manualy ? only delete folder then ? why did synaptic not show that programm renoise
[20:38] <geri> nith1210:
[20:38] <geri> ldd ../../SDK/include/librp.so not a dynamic executable
[20:38] <geri> nith1210: ldd only works for a executable!!!!!???
[20:39] <SchrodingersScat> cocoony: how did you install it? Synaptic will only know about things installed through the package manager.
[20:39] <Bashing-om> cocoony: IF you did not install from the package management system, then the package management system is not tracking the application . How did you install it ?
[20:39] <k3asd`> Bashing-om: yes, I've tried the open source driver and the situation seems the same
[20:39] <nith1210> geri: Your paste has api_test, not librp.so. ldd should run on both. Would you please run "file librp.so"
[20:40] <nith1210> geri: I think your librp.so is of the wrong arch
[20:41] <Bashing-om> k3asd`: "situation seems the same" may I infer that the only problem is the speed of the cooling fans ?
[20:42] <cocoony> i dont know how i have installed it..it was the program renoise
[20:42] <cocoony> its a music ctracker
[20:42] <cocoony> demo
[20:42] <cocoony> do i only have to delete the folders then ?
[20:43] <Ben64> cocoony: might sort of work
[20:43] <cocoony> http://www.renoise.com/
[20:43] <Ben64> cocoony: ask them
[20:43] <cocoony> Ben64 what you mean
[20:44] <Ben64> they made the software, i'm sure they know how to uninstall it
[20:44] <cocoony> lol
[20:44] <cocoony> i cant write to every factory lol
[20:44] <Ben64> we only support software in the ubuntu repositories, everything else is up to you
[20:46] <graceabel> nith1210: i tried choosing kernel 3.13.0-24-generic (older kernel) and its still displaying same error message "Missing modules (cat /proc/modules/; ls /dev)
[20:47] <tnkhanh> hi where do I get the latest ubuntu version on dev branch
[20:47] <cocoony> Ben64....its ok that you support software , but i cant get renoise for free
[20:47] <cocoony> i want to test the demo
[20:48] <cocoony> and perhaps i buy it
[20:48] <Ben64> cocoony: that has nothing to do with this channel though
[20:48] <SchrodingersScat> that's all the more reason for them to be giving support
[20:49] <kostkon> cocoony, did you compile it
[20:49] <cocoony> i dont write to support the program,i only write how to uninstall software which are not shown in manager
[20:51] <cocoony> i think i must install windows...nothing works with linux. i need a systzem for good programs
[20:51] <cocoony> no good program is written for linux
[20:51] <OerHeks> " run ./install.sh to install the program system-wide. That's it, Renoise is now completely installed. To uninstall the program, simply run the uninstall shell script in the same way.
[20:51] <OerHeks> http://www.linuxjournal.com/content/renoise-linux
[20:51] <cocoony> thx oerheks
[20:52] <k3asd`> Bashing-om: right now yes
[20:52] <dimitry7> Hey there, somebody has a trick to get files created between a range of dates? find . -mtime $(date +%s -d"Mar 31, 2015 23:59:59") -mtime $(date +%s -d"Apr 25, 2015 23:59:59")
[20:53] <dimitry7> I used that but mtime only sees 24 hours before
[20:53] <Bashing-om> k3asd`: A thought .. overheating ? Have you cleaned the machine lately ?
[20:53] <k3asd`> Bashing-om: the laptop is cleaned
[20:54] <k3asd`> Bashing-om: I've overheating when I done a bit of multitasking operations
[20:54] <k3asd`> Bashing-om: like some video on youtube, client email, some terminal opened
[20:54] <k3asd`> Bashing-om: for me are normal operations
[20:59] <Bashing-om> k3asd`: I run a similar card .. and yes I do overheat ( desktop) to the point my system shuts down sometimes with graphically intensive operations. The better solution I think is to get a better graphics card . What I do now-a-days is non-critical, so shutting down is but a nuisanse .
[21:04] <k3asd`> Bashing-om: I think so but I can't not able to do that because this is a laptop
[21:04] <Captonjamason> question
[21:05] <Captonjamason> is there any irc channel that i can talk about hardware
[21:05] <daftykins> ##hardware
[21:05] <Captonjamason> thanks
[21:06] <Bashing-om> k3asd`: Regret, but I am unable to advise further ... I have not paid a lot of attention to ACPI power management in laptops .
[21:08] <daftykins> k3asd`: if you already disassembled and cleaned it out, perhaps you reduced the effectiveness of the thermal interface material (thermal paste) however that would be off topic here
[21:08] <wafflejock> k3asd`, this may be helpful https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kernel/PowerManagement/ThermalIssues
[21:09] <Captonjamason> hey daftykins
[21:09] <Captonjamason> when i join i cant say anything
[21:09] <daftykins> perhaps you aren't registered and identified
[21:09] <Captonjamason> ...
[21:09] <Captonjamason> do i need to be
[21:09] <daftykins> the things you are asking are not Ubuntu related, go and ask #freenode please
[21:09] <k1l> !register | Captonjamason
[21:10] <k3asd`> daftykins: yes, I know that. the problem was different, now it's solved
[21:10] <k3asd`> Bashing-om: yes, thanks again
[21:10] <k3asd`> wafflejock: I'm looking at your link
[21:10] <daftykins> mmk
[21:16] <dss666> !WepCrack-Ubuntu
[21:18] <dss666> anybody know the damn pword for !wepcrack-ubuntu?
[21:18] <dss666> im getting nowhere following the directions
[21:18] <k1l> dss666: we dont support wifi cracking in here
[21:18] <dss666> its not cracking...its testing
[21:19] <meisth0th> they used to say the same for trojans in 90s
[21:19] <k1l> if you really need to test your setup then you want to dig into the docs anyway. so your turn
[21:19] <daftykins> dss666: doesn't matter what you want to call it, it's off topic
[21:19] <dss666> well......yer no damned fun....ciao
[21:21] <zefyr> Just Installed Kubuntu. Have logged in several times. System always freezes a couple minutes after login. At that point, the mouse still moves fine, but you can not Ctrl+Esc or Alt+Tab. My googling hasn't come up with anything. some close ones, but not the same. Any ideas here?
[21:22] <cromagi> Anyone know why kubuntu 15.04 is freaking out all of the time?? It's like the windows keep having seizures when I open and close them
[21:22] <daftykins> #kubuntu might know
[21:31] <pantato> i upgraded from 14.10 to 15.04 and now my mouse hertz is stuck at 125. The usbhid module still says the parameter is 2 so it shoudl be running at 500 hz
[21:31] <pantato> i'm lost.
[21:32] <kostkon> pantato, Hz or DPI?
[21:32] <penguin1263> glaub!
[21:40] <joshh20> What is the proper way to modify what DNS servers you use now that resolv.conf is autogenerated
[21:41] <kostkon> joshh20, network-manager
[21:41] <burner> joshh20, right click network manager and edit connections
[21:41] <joshh20> I am using Ubuntu server
[21:41] <joshh20> So headless
[21:45] <OerHeks> https://help.ubuntu.com/14.04/serverguide/network-configuration.html
[21:47] <joshh20> Ok thanks mate OerHeks
[21:47] <OerHeks> joshh20, so edit /etc/network/interfaces and restart networking
[21:47] <joshh20> Got it thanks :D
[21:48] <graceabel> I got an error ALERT! /dev/sda1 does not exis, Dropping to a shell
[21:48] <arulmagi> hi every one. i am new to ubuntu. is there any open source alternatives for skype?
[21:48] <graceabel> even after choosing different boot options
[21:48] <daftykins> graceabel: you might want to boot a live session and see what's left, assuming this just happened to a working system
[21:48] <MonkeyDust> arulmagi none that use the skype protocol
[21:49] <arulmagi> any good viop for ubuntu?
[21:49] <graceabel> daftykins: all i did was running apt-get dist-upgrade and then reboot
[21:50] <graceabel> daftykins: i got 4 boot options, selecting anyone of them results in same error message
[21:51] <daftykins> two different kernels and their recovery options?
[21:51] <graceabel> same error message
[21:51] <MonkeyDust> arulmagi sflphone, yape, ekiga and others
[21:52] <graceabel> daftykins: yes 2 different kernels and their recovery options. Selecting either option will result in same error message
[21:52] <MonkeyDust> arulmagi open the software center and find voip
[21:52] <arulmagi> thanks monkeydust. i'll give them a try.
[21:52] <daftykins> graceabel: what version is this?
[21:52] <nith1210> graceabel: do you also see the words "busybox" somewhere?
[21:52] <graceabel> Latest kernel is 14.04.2 LTS, kernel 3.13.0-49-generic
[21:53] <joshh20> What is the proper way to reboot networking
[21:53] <daftykins> so, are you typing from a live session?
[21:53] <daftykins> joshh20: bringing interfaces down and up, or a full reboot
[21:53] <graceabel> nith1210: yes "Busybox v1.21.1...."
[21:53] <daftykins> (yes, seriously)
[21:53] <joshh20> Why is it so backwards?
[21:53] <daftykins> pass.
[21:53] <OerHeks> !voip
[21:53] <daftykins> i just know it's the way it is
[21:54] <joshh20> Lol
[21:56] <graceabel> i would like to know, the prompt "Security updates available" when we ssh into our servers at hosting provider.... are those updates message set by hosting provider?
[21:57] <daftykins> sounds like the ubuntu MOTD
[21:57] <penthief> After a seemingly successful dist upgrade, I have booted into 14.10, rather than 15.04.
[21:57] <nith1210> graceabel: I think your grub-update failed and/or the UUID's decided to change (should be impossible, have seen it on my own systems) and you need to do a grub recovery.
[21:57] <nith1210> graceabel: or, you lost a hd
[21:57] <daftykins> dist-upgrade does not upgrade distribution version
[21:58] <graceabel> nith1210: i don't think i lost a hd
[21:58] <penthief> Oh. It was followed by "sudo do-release-upgrade -d".
[21:58] <penthief> It took several hours.
[21:58] <daftykins> penthief: that's unwise to ever run.
[21:58] <daftykins> were you on 14.04 to start with?
[21:58] <k1l> penthief: "lsb_release -d"?
[21:58] <graceabel> I got the message immediate after rebooting from apt-get dist-upgrade
[21:59] <penthief> Description: Ubuntu 14.10
[21:59] <k1l> penthief: and the -d switch is for development release. that is very unwise to use blindly.
[21:59] <nith1210> graceabel: right, which is why I think the UUID's decided to change.
[21:59] <nith1210> graceabel: Once it can't figure out where to boot to, it drops to busybox
[21:59] <k1l> penthief: what version is named in "cat /etc/apt/sources.list"?
[22:00] <penthief> utopic
[22:00] <k1l> penthief: then run a "sudo do-release-upgrade"
[22:00] <penthief> thanks
[22:00] <nith1210> graceabel: And recovery from there gets complicated. I'm not sure if daftykins has a link or ubuntu magic to give you instructions on how to fix it or not...
[22:00] <k1l> penthief: so you started on a 14.04
[22:00] <nith1210> *ubottu
[22:00] <penthief> sounds right
[22:00] <daftykins> nith1210: oh i see you're done helping and passing it back now? :)
[22:01] <graceabel> nith1210: i'm wondering if this is part of my hosting provider's scope, I've contacted them but they only do a reboot for me
[22:01] <nith1210> daftykins: My way of fixing this is messy and involves chroots from a liveUSB. I'm sure there's a more user friendly method - and you are one of the best helpers I've ever seen.
[22:01] <penthief> damn, if only i hadn't put Ethat -d switch in there.
[22:02] <k1l> penthief: what is now?
[22:02] <daftykins> graceabel seemed to give up when i mentioned booting a live session so i don't know what you guys are up to.
[22:02] <graceabel> daftykinds: i don't understand what is booting a live session
[22:02] <k1l> penthief: what gives you in the last line of "cat /etc/update-manager/release-upgrades"?
[22:02] <daftykins> puttin a flash drive in and booting from it... but you made it sound like this is a VPS
[22:02] <daftykins> *putting
[22:03] <graceabel> daftykins: yes its a vps, physically server is miles away from me
[22:03] <penthief> Prompt=normal
[22:03] <k1l> penthief: ok. so the 14.10 to 15.04 upgrade should work
[22:03] <daftykins> graceabel: then you will need to contact your provider.
[22:03] <penthief> Yes, thank you.
[22:04] <penthief> well, after i get around the "Not enough free disk space" !
[22:04] <k1l> penthief: see "dpkg -l | grep linux-image"
[22:05] <daftykins> time for an auto-remove ;)
[22:05] <graceabel> daftykinds: ok
[22:05] <k1l> penthief: then remove old kernel packages that are still installed with "sudo apt-get remove ....." and then a "sudo apt-get autoremove && sudo apt-get autoclean"
[22:06] <penthief> http://paste.ubuntu.com/10890966/
[22:06] <penthief> ok
[22:07] <k1l> penthief: uh, yes. all the 3.5 kernels can be uninstalled.
[22:07] <k1l> penthief: after that you can see what linux-headers are insatlled, too. and remove the old ones
[22:08] <penthief> ok, will remove the headers when this command completes.
[22:09] <k1l> "dpkg -l | grep linux-headers" will show what is still installed
[22:10] <Mdxxx> does anyone here play dungeon fighter online?
[22:12] <m4t> is kvm/virt-manager working for anyone in 15.04?
[22:13] <SCHAAP137> lemme check
[22:13] <m4t> thanks
[22:13] <m4t> after 30s i get
[22:13] <SCHAAP137> yeah worx
[22:13] <m4t> Activation of org.freedesktop.machine1 timed out
[22:13] <m4t> you can actually start a VM up?
[22:17] <tux__> Any recommendation for me on the player to use for FLAC files? Thx
[22:23] <OerHeks> Is unrar really needed in restricted-extras?
[22:24] <Mion> OerHeks: as oposed to not package it at all?
[22:24] <NegativeFlare> OerHeks: Use 7zip
[22:25] <OerHeks> Mion yes, is it required to install restricted extras
[22:26] <Cuken> am I able to use fdisk to reformat a disk if it has a GPT header?
[22:26] <neon_squirrel> Is there any word on Ubuntu Phone for the Nexus 6, or is there a way to run full Ubuntu on it because it's an ARM processor?
[22:26] <Mion> you don't have to install everything in there, you can cherrypick
[22:27] <OerHeks> neon_squirrel, join #ubuntu-touch they have a list of devices and info
[22:27] <neon_squirrel> OerHeks, Thanks.
[22:27] <OerHeks> see the topic *
[22:27] <Cuken> I just setup a new Ubuntu server in place of a windows box I was running, I have 3x 3TB drives that still have a GPT partition on them, do I need to use parted to clean them up?
[22:28] <Cuken> I'm trying to extend my LVM across all 4 hard drives
[22:29] <OerHeks> !gdisk
[22:29] <OerHeks> !info gdisk
[22:29] <Mion> Cuken: delete existing partitions, create a single partition on each disk, mark it as part of a lvm vg
[22:29] <Mion> don't pv the disk directly, that can lead to epic pebcaks in the future
[22:30] <terratoma> i upgraded to latest ubuntu. should my mind be blown now? is it all systemd? should my startup time be 15 seconds
[22:30] <Cuken> and should I used gdisk to delete the partitions?
[22:30] <Mion> terratoma: you are doing it wrong, you are suposed to complain about how it impregnated your sister, killed your dog and tied all the cables behind the computer into a knot
[22:30] <Cuken> parted dosn't seen any partitions on the device
[22:30] <Mion> Cuken: gdisk works
[22:30] <Mion> parted too
[22:31] <Mion> unless you have a horribly outdated version of parted
[22:31] <faultyjohn> Mion, wtf?
[22:31] <Mion> faultyjohn: just making fun all all the systemd haters
[22:32] <faultyjohn> cool cool
[22:32] <terratoma> i see lots of scripts in /etc/init.d/ still
[22:32] <terratoma> i actually like systemd ( i run a lot of centos 7 systems )
[22:33] <kostkon> !offtopic
[22:33] <kentropy> exit
[22:33] <kentropy> exit
[22:33] <terratoma> i was discussing systemd. which latest ubuntu uses. totally on topic
[22:34] <rizwan> hello
[22:34] <faultyjohn> hello
[22:34] <rizwan> why this room is quite
[22:34] <rizwan> hi faultyjohn how you dong
[22:34] <faultyjohn> good
[22:34] <faultyjohn> you?
[22:35] <rizwan> iam good thanks. where are you from faulyjohn
[22:35] <k1l> rizwan: this channel is support only. for chat we have #ubuntu-offtopic to keep this channel clear to not distract beginners
[22:35] <zenus> ai
[22:35] <rizwan> ai
[22:36] <Bashing-om> Cuken: http://www.rodsbooks.com/gdisk/ The Bible on gdisk .
[22:39] <treelool> Hi. Running 12.04.5. Have a broken package libc6-dev. Paste http://paste.ubuntu.com/10890836/. How serious is it and can anything be done for it?
[22:40] <huig> where are python library files installed in ubuntu?
[22:41] <faultyjohn> does ubuntu come with any python IDE's built in?
[22:41] <EriC^^> huig: dpkg -L <package> | grep ".so"
[22:42] <Umeaboy> faultyjohn: sudo apt-cache search python
[22:43] <faultyjohn> thanks
[22:43] <gr33n7007h> huig: generally in /usr/lib/python*
[22:43] <huig> thanks both of you!
[22:45] <cribbageSTARSHIP> i want to auto backup some partitions. does this rsync crontab look ok to you? I want to do mon midnights. 0 0 * * Mon rsync -avucz --update --progress --human-readable /media/osstorage/ /media/osbunker/
[22:46] <Mion> huig: what is the real problem?
[22:48] <huig> Mion, ubuntu ppa aren't up to date and need a method from a python library not in the current ubuntu ppa. i already installed the library so i am downloading the code for the file it's missing and copying it to /usr/lib/python2.7/...
[22:48] <Mion> huig: pip install --user
[22:48] <Mion> or use a virtualenv
[22:48] <Mion> or make your own .deb if you want it installed system wide
[22:48] <faultyjohn> mind=blown
[22:48] <Mion> *NEVER* run pip/make/similar as root *ever*
[22:49] <huig> Mion, i use sudo apt-get install python-whatever instead of pip
[22:49] <huig> but statsmodels (the library) from the ppa repository is not updated
[22:49] <Mion> as said, if you want it installed system wide then make your own .deb
[22:49] <Mion> you can grab the existing build files, bump the version etc and then build it
[22:53] <geri> hi guys
[22:53] <huig> Mion, if i get the code from github using git clone..do i have to move it to /usr/lib/python.. and thats it?
[22:53] <geri> is ubuntu available for ARMv5t (armel) ??
[22:53] <Mion> huig: *never* do that
[22:54] <Mion> huig: again Mion ╡ as said, if you want it installed system wide then make your own .deb
[22:54] <Mion> huig: and I bet it comes with a setup.py
[22:54] <geri> hi guys.... is ubuntu available for ARMv5t (armel) ??
[22:54] <geri> Mion: ?
[22:55] <Mion> geri: nani?
[22:55] <geri> hu?
[22:55] <Mion> that is what I asked
[22:55] <geri> i read: Ubuntu no longer provides pre-built images of new Ubuntu versions for armel. It only provides images for armhf (Hard Float, instead of floating-point emulation).
[22:56] <k1l> geri: #ubuntu-arm
[22:56] <Hanz_Zimmer> Hello everyone, I'm having some difficulty installing Ubuntu 15.04 on my machine. It's a P55-USB3.0 machine with an ATI 5850 graphics card, i5 processor, and 12gb of memory. I'm trying to install it on my 120GB Samsung SSD. I created the installer using "Startup Disk Creator" on Ubuntu on my laptop successfully and I can't boot into the installer without specifying both vga=normal and nomodeset kernel flags. Near the very end of the ins
[22:56] <faultyjohn> why does everyone want 15.04
[22:56] <faultyjohn> 14.10 is great
[22:57] <Hanz_Zimmer> Because I want to try out systemd.
[22:57] <teward> faultyjohn: that's a better question for #ubuntu-offtopic or a general discussion question - but the latest release is 15.04.
[22:57] <Mion> Hanz_Zimmer: your irc client is silly and didn't split your message, nor warn you, so you got cut off at "Near the very end of the ins"
[22:57] <teward> faultyjohn: many people want the 'newest' stuff. (I personally use 14.04, but have VMs for 14.10 and 15.04, as a packager/bug triager/developer)
[22:57] <Hanz_Zimmer> Sorry, using pidgin. Here's the rest: I get the following error: "Apt configuration problem. An attempt to configure apt to install additional packages from the CD failed” After choosing to continue, and my computer reboots, I'm greeted with Grub Rescue and the following error: "error: file '/grub/i386-pc/normal.mod' not found"
[22:57] <Mion> faultyjohn: because 15.04 is 1. better 2. lts
[22:57] <Hanz_Zimmer> So I tried to boot off a live disc and reinstall Grub2 but after successfully installing grub2, and rebooting, just a grub prompt appears with no boot options.
[22:58] <ernesto_> hola
[22:58] <teward> Mion: 15.04 is not LTS
[22:58] <ernesto_> ayuda
[22:58] <k1l> faultyjohn: support for 14.10 droppes in 3 months. so be prepared
[22:58] <faultyjohn> ok sorry
[22:58] <Mion> hmm tought it was
[22:58] <teward> Mion: 14.04 is LTS, 16.04 is the next LTS
[22:58] <faultyjohn> i will be
[22:58] <k1l> Mion: 15.04 is not LTS.
[22:58] <teward> Mion: LTS is every 2 years, with a 5 year support cycle for those. 15.04 is NOT LTS.
[22:58] <Hanz_Zimmer> Any ideas why this is happening though?
[22:59] <ernesto_> alguien?
[22:59] <teward> !es | ernesto_
[22:59] <teward> (i think)
[23:00] <Hanz_Zimmer> I have a timeshift backup of my ubuntu 14.10 install. I'm going to try and upgrade from that I guess.
[23:00] <Guest9535> are you shure you have uploade the good version of ubuntu I386 or amd 64
[23:00] <rking> What does everyone around here use for their music streaming services?
[23:00] <RNeville> getting message that boot partition full, once Xserver is up and running. ubuntu 14.04
[23:00] <Guest9535> maibe the ptroblem is hear
[23:01] <Guest9535> yes i use radio on rithmbox
[23:01] <k1l> RNeville: remove old kernel packages
[23:01] <RNeville> have several initrd.img versions in my boot partition
[23:01] <k1l> (why does everyone use too small /boot partitions when they use /boot partitions at all)
[23:02] <daftykins> k1l: lots use encryption and it had an installer bug making a small size a while back, don't think it explains them all but it covers a lot
[23:02] <RNeville> not sure which are kernel packages k1l
[23:02] <daftykins> RNeville: 14.04+ ? run "sudo apt-get autoremove"
[23:02] <k1l> RNeville: "dpkg -l | grep linux-image"
[23:02] <RNeville> thx k1l
[23:02] <Guest9535> maibe you must reinstall the distrib ubuntu
[23:03] <Guest9535> but you must be shure you have the good version of kernel
[23:04] <Guest9535> to verify you must access to the bios and verify what is the kernel of your computer
[23:04] <Cuken> @Mion : I used fdisk but it shows the partition table as GPT still
[23:04] <daftykins> Guest9535: you are speaking false information, please stop that.
[23:04] <Cuken> then when I try to use the sudo pvcreate /dev/sdb it fails saying device not found
[23:05] <Mion> Cuken: use gpt
[23:05] <Guest9535> to enter in the bios at start up fonction F8 or fonction F10
[23:05] <Mion> there is no reason not to
[23:05] <Guest9535> maibe but it's possible
[23:05] <Mion> Cuken: bonus point is that you can use partition labels to mark it
[23:05] <k1l> Guest9535: stop it
[23:06] <Guest9535> ok thank you very much
[23:06] <Guest9535> good by
[23:10] <faultyjohn> I'm installing ParrotSec OS on a virtual machine
[23:12] <huig> i installed the latest version using a way they recommend in their web page (http://statsmodels.sourceforge.net/stable/install.html)..now it doesn't give me an error importing the class i want to import but it gives me this error: X13NotFoundError: x12a and x13as not found on path. Give the path, put them on PATH, or set the X12PATH or X13PATH environmental variable.
[23:15] <[n0mad]> i just upgraded to 15.04 this morning and honestly everything is fine, just wondering if anyone is actually able to change their launcher color with unity tweak tool?
[23:15] <kostkon> [n0mad], maybe it's not compatible with 15.04 yet
[23:16] <[n0mad]> maybe but in omgubuntu screenshots it looks like they could change it
[23:16] <[n0mad]> that's why i was curious
[23:16] <kostkon> [n0mad], it changes according to the average colour of your wallpaper anyway
[23:17] <[n0mad]> yeah, i know, and that's how i normally have it set
[23:17] <[n0mad]> just sometimes when i'm doing gksudo stuff it changes it to root color *purple*
[23:17] <[n0mad]> and i'm kinda wanting something like that
[23:17] <[n0mad]> for it all to be some other color
[23:17] <[n0mad]> that's all
[23:17] <faultyjohn> anyone know how to change terminal color?
[23:18] <faultyjohn> preferably to look like the matrix
[23:18] <[n0mad]> faultyjohn: yes, just right click on terminal and then profiles change profile defaults or something
[23:18] <RNeville> kl1 ran sudo apt-get autoremove, didn't seem to work
[23:18] <k1l> faultyjohn: see the terminal settings
[23:18] <k1l> RNeville: see again what i said
[23:19] <cem_> in python, i want to find a word and replace its line with new entry, how can i do this ?
[23:19] <faultyjohn> thanks
[23:19] <k1l> RNeville: see what linux-image packages are installed and remove the old ones
[23:19] <Cuken> for sudo pvcreate /dev/sdb, does the device need to be blank?
[23:19] <Cuken> Or do I need to put a ext4 partition on it?
[23:19] <RNeville> can I just use "rm" and package name k1l
[23:20] <frizz96> list
[23:20] <k1l> RNeville: no
[23:20] <RNeville> k
[23:20] <frizz96> mercenari
[23:20] <k1l> RNeville: "dpkg -l | grep linux-image"
[23:20] <gr33n7007h> RNeville: dpkg -l | grep "linux-image" find the one you want to remove then dpkg -r <image>
[23:20] <RNeville> k,sorry, u already wrote this
[23:20] <k1l> RNeville: see what packages are installed (ii) and remove the old ones.
[23:21] <k1l> remove them with "sudo apt-get remove packagename"
[23:22] <kostkon> cem_, http://docs.python.org/
[23:23] <gr33n7007h> cem_: /j #python # need to be registered
[23:23] <Duggy> hi
[23:24] <Duggy> does anyone use ps3 media server by any chance?
[23:24] <darthanubis> long time ago
[23:24] <Duggy> darthhanubis was that in response to me?
[23:24] <darthanubis> its inferior and seems like development stopped
[23:24] <kostkon> cem_, if you mean replace the word, https://docs.python.org/2.7/library/stdtypes.html#str.replace
[23:24] <nogoodnamesleft> I have some questions about LVM. First, the LVM installer wants to use the entire drive, erasing other operating systems. Is there any way to work around this?
[23:25] <darthanubis> yes
[23:25] <Duggy> darthanubis - did you get it to work?
[23:25] <darthanubis> yes
[23:25] <Tundra> what's the best way to install gnome shell?
[23:25] <Duggy> darthanubis, may I PM you?
[23:25] <darthanubis> install gnome-shell
[23:25] <darthanubis> yes
[23:25] <k1l> Tundra: use ubuntu gnome editon or install "gnome-shell"
[23:25] <cem_> i want to find that word and then delete that line and put new text at same line
[23:26] <darthanubis> I'd use the gnome edition
[23:26] <RNeville> what to use pastebin, what is best way to get error message to post automatically to pastebin?
[23:26] <Tundra> k1l:darthanubis, thanks fellas
[23:26] <k1l> !pastebinit | RNeville
[23:28] <RNeville> thx bot ubottu
[23:28] <kostkon> cem_, use str.find()
[23:29] <nogoodnamesleft> How do I install with LVM alongside Windows?
[23:32] <daftykins> i don't think LVM is for you
[23:33] <nogoodnamesleft> daftykins: I need full disk encryption on a dual boot machine. Would you therefore say putting a second drive in it would be a better idea?
[23:33] <daftykins> yes
[23:33] <nogoodnamesleft> daftykins: Full disk enc for the Linux only
[23:33] <daftykins> partial disk encryption ;)
[23:34] <nogoodnamesleft> daftykins: What if it was a laptop with only a single drive?
[23:34] <daftykins> well i kinda laugh at encryption in general so, i'm not the best to ask
[23:35] <Cuken> what partition table should I use for LVM disks that are 3tb?
[23:36] <RNeville> k1l http://paste.ubuntu.com/10891656/
[23:36] <nogoodnamesleft> With 2 drives I could just use the installer. With a single drive I'd have to setup the lvm manually and it looks to be a pain. -Lots- of docs!
[23:37] <k1l> RNeville: :/
[23:37] <RNeville> ?
[23:37] <k1l> RNeville: "dpkg -l | grep linux-image | pastebinit
[23:37] <k1l> RNeville: dont use dpkg to remove.
[23:46] <Tinkerer> hello
[23:46] <joao> hello
[23:47] <Tinkerer> i have put a Live Ubuntu 15.04 on a USB stick today
[23:48] <Tinkerer> i used UUI to make this baby
[23:48] <daftykins> UUI works fine in my experience
[23:49] <Tinkerer> i chose to have a 4 GB permanent file
[23:50] <Tinkerer> so that whenever i restart the live session, I don't lose the settings, my custom desktop wallpaper and so on
[23:51] <Tinkerer> then i did something that totally broke my live session
[23:52] <Tinkerer> i installed proprietary drivers for intel.microcode (or something like that)
[23:53] <Tinkerer> i restarted my live session and now when i choose "Try Ubuntu without installing" I get a kernel panic text all over my screen and am doomed
[23:53] <daftykins> oh persistence.
[23:54] <daftykins> attempting to install anything else for intel graphics is a colossal waste of time
[23:54] <Tinkerer> yes, persistence file, not permanent
[23:55] <Tinkerer> can you like help me to get back to the live session but without the use of the proprietary drivers?
[23:55] <Tinkerer> like in a secure mode of a sort
[23:56] <daftykins> try pressing 'e' to edit the 'try ubuntu' then change 'quiet splash' for 'text' , then once it boots up purge whatever packages you installed / undo whatever command you ran
[23:56] <Tinkerer> anyone?
[23:57] <daftykins> Tinkerer: i replied.
[23:57] <Tinkerer> i don't know what was the package name for the proprietary driver i installed
[23:58] <Tinkerer> i installed it via the GUI
[23:58] <daftykins> you could just wipe your drive and start again
[23:59] <\\Mr_C\\> http://cdimage.debian.org/debian-cd/8.0.0/
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[17:17] <teward> balloons: around? got a question for you (if you're not around I'll leave you alone then)
[17:45] <elfy> teward: balloons tends to be here working hours
[18:40] <teward> mmm
[18:40] <teward> nevermind then
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ubuntu-chat
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"authors": [
"elfy",
"teward"
],
"url": "https://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2015/04/25/%23ubuntu-quality.txt",
"channel": "#ubuntu-quality"
}
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2015-04-25-#ubuntu-cn
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[00:01] <^k^> 新 初学者园地 - 15.04 • 请教一个程序界面的问题 http://forum.ubuntu.org.cn/viewtopic.php?t=469779 系统环境 debian jessie/ Gnome shell 安装完系统后，打开iceweasel浏览器后发现有些界面比较丑，比如说这个搜索框 google.png 而在浏览ubuntu中文论坛的时候，感觉发表帖子的输入框还可以接受，如图所示：
[00:01] <^k^> ─> ubuntu.png 请问要怎么修改，才能使Google搜索的那个输入框变得美观点，像Ubuntu的Firefox那样 …
[01:55] <sensen123> hi
[01:55] <^k^> sensen123:点点点. 09:54
[01:55] <sensen123> 大家好啊
[01:55] <^k^> sensen123:点点点. 09:54
[01:55] <sensen123> 大家好啊
[01:56] <^k^> sensen123:点点点. 09:55
[01:57] <iMadper> ...
[01:59] <archl> 大家好啊
[01:59] <^k^> archl:点点点. 09:59
[02:00] <archl> 大家好啊
[02:00] <^k^> archl:点点点. 09:59
[02:00] <archl> 大家好啊
[02:00] <^k^> archl:点点点. 09:59
[02:01] <Guest88588> 求教大神，xubuntu用虚拟机安装win XP的具体步骤
[02:01] <iMadper> Guest88588: 自己搜教程去
[02:01] <void1> 装个vmware player或者virtualbox，接下来和windows都一样
[02:01] <iMadper> Guest12725: 装virtualbox, 装win xp
[02:03] <iMadper> Guest12725: 别私聊
[02:06] <Guest88588> 1. sudo apt-get install virtualbox
[02:06] <Guest88588> 2. sudo apt-get install virtualbox-ose-source
[02:06] <Guest88588> 3. sudo m-a update
[02:06] <Guest88588> 4. sudo m-a prepare
[02:06] <Guest88588> 5. sudo m-a a-i virtualbox-ose
[02:06] <Guest88588> 6. sudo /etc/init.d/vboxdrv restart
[02:06] <Guest88588> 是这些步骤吗？
[02:12] <jiero> Guest88588, 没有啥固定步骤，你要什么看那些理解那些，就做。
[02:14] <void1> 1 就够了
[02:15] <Guest88588> O(∩_∩)O谢谢
[02:17] <jack-zhang> Hello 请问我怎样才能看到ubuntu 的网络协议栈呢？
[02:23] <^k^> 暂无新帖 讲个笑话吧: 奇思妙想 : 老师说:"猪是一种很有用的动物,它的肉可以吃,它的皮可以做皮革,它的毛可以做刷子,现在有谁说得出它还有其他用途吗?" "老师,"一个学生站起来答,"它的名字还可以骂人。"
[02:32] <iMadper> jack-zhang: 请问网络协议栈如何看呢?
[02:32] <iMadper> jack-zhang: 你是想知道那些包如何被处理的?
[02:33] <jack-zhang> iMadper，我想知道 它跟windows 有什么不同
[02:34] <iMadper> jack-zhang: https://git.kernel.org/cgit/linux/kernel/git/torvalds/linux.git/tree/net/ipv4/icmp.c?id=refs/tags/v3.19-rc6
[02:34] <^k^> ⇪ ti: kernel/git/torvalds/linux.git - Linux kernel source tree
[02:34] <iMadper> jack-zhang: 这个是icmp的协议栈.
[02:34] <jack-zhang> iMadper，也包括那些包是怎样处理的
[02:34] <jack-zhang> iMadper 谢谢
[02:34] <iMadper> jack-zhang: 这个是ipv4 tcp的
[02:35] <jack-zhang> iMadper 有ipv6的ma
[02:35] <iMadper> jack-zhang: 这个目录下是ipv6的东西: https://git.kernel.org/cgit/linux/kernel/git/torvalds/linux.git/tree/net/ipv6?id=refs/tags/v3.19-rc6
[02:35] <^k^> ⇪ ti: kernel/git/torvalds/linux.git - Linux kernel source tree
[02:36] <iMadper> jack-zhang: 这个是ipv6 tcp https://git.kernel.org/cgit/linux/kernel/git/torvalds/linux.git/tree/net/ipv6/tcp_ipv6.c?id=refs/tags/v3.19-rc6
[02:36] <^k^> ⇪ ti: kernel/git/torvalds/linux.git - Linux kernel source tree
[02:37] <jack-zhang> iMadper 请问一下 那个是跟路由有关的
[02:37] <jack-zhang> iMadper 找到了谢谢
[02:39] <iMadper> jack-zhang: 其实, 如果你不知道怎么找到这个东西, 很大可能你也看不懂这些...
[02:40] <jack-zhang> iMadper 也确实是 不过 也只能硬着头皮看了
[02:40] <iMadper> jack-zhang: 从教科书开始看.
[02:40] <iMadper> 深入linux网络技术内幕
[02:40] <jack-zhang> iMadper 计算机网络
[02:41] <jack-zhang> iMadper 谢谢
[02:41] <iMadper> jack-zhang: 好了, 我知道的就这么多了. 你加油
[02:42] <jack-zhang> iMadper 再问一个问题 ubuntu 各版本间 协议栈 变化大吗 特别是 14.04 与14.10
[02:44] <iMadper> jack-zhang: 虽然我不知道答案, 但是我可以告诉你如何获取答案. 1. 检查ubuntu 14.04用的内核版本, 2. 检查14.10用的内核版本. 3. 下载kernel的git tree, 4, git diff commit commit ./net/ipv4 来查看变动.
[02:45] <iMadper> jack-zhang: 如果你真的这么关注协议栈, 你应该订阅linux-net的邮件列表, 所有的协议栈改动都会先发上去让大家审查
[02:45] <jack-zhang> iMadper 试了 没找到我想找的东西 所以想问一下
[02:46] <jack-zhang> iMadper 谢谢了
[02:46] <jack-zhang> iMadper 现在去看看
[03:25] <^k^> 新 初学者园地 - 15.04 • 急，刷选怎么变成了删除？ http://forum.ubuntu.org.cn/viewtopic.php?t=469781 系统更新之后，遇到一个恼人问题：上网发帖、跟帖时，粘贴好的文字不能再刷选，刷选功能变成删除。 举个例子。假如粘贴好下面的一段文字—— “经过这一次的洗劫和破坏，罗马帝国再也恢
[03:25] <^k^> ─> 复不了元气，不久后终于被突厥人摧毁而彻底亡国。君士坦丁堡破城和后来东方罗马亡国 …
[04:08] <^k^> 新 其它类软件 • 推荐！安卓手机助手类软件 http://forum.ubuntu.org.cn/viewtopic.php?t=469784 昨天刚刚发现，LAssistant，可以查看文件、管理应用。 如有更好用的，欢迎推荐。 zz: aerowolf — 2015-04-25 12:07
[05:03] <^k^> 新 网卡问题以及网络和拨号 • ·求助」DSL连接没有用 http://forum.ubuntu.org.cn/viewtopic.php?t=469786 使用ubuntu自带的网络连接下使用DSL进行PPPOE网络连接没有反应。编辑连接里面显示该连接从未被使用。也没有反馈错误原因。 如何解决。 zz: 长孙弘奕 — 2015-04-25 13:02
[05:28] <^k^> 新 游戏和游戏模拟器 • 不知国服暗黑3有什么优秀的解决方案? http://forum.ubuntu.org.cn/viewtopic.php?t=469787 虚拟机我试过 KVM/VMWare/Virtualbox 图形性能都不甚理想. playonlinux 也跑不起来国服客户端, 无限畅玩包买了三天, 愣是没玩到游戏, 真是郁闷. zz: TimePower — 2015-04-25 13:26
[05:45] <^k^> 新 Ubuntu 15.10 • 庆祝一下，ubuntu终于不稳定了。 http://forum.ubuntu.org.cn/viewtopic.php?t=469790 到今天 4月25日，15.04已经不稳定了。是从1个半月前发现问题的，到现在都没有好转。 eclipse luna IDE环境，在弹出菜单超过屏幕边缘需要卷动时，会经常出现GUI冻结。应该怀疑java系统与nvidia显卡的冲突
[05:55] <^k^> 新 Wine及其分支 • playonlinux 无法运行暗黑3 http://forum.ubuntu.org.cn/viewtopic.php?t=469791 最多只能出来这个界面, 一点那个篮框就没有然后了.... shell 也没返回什么详情.... zz: TimePower — 2015-04-25 13:54
[06:00] <^k^> 新 启动和引导 • serious errors were found while checking the disk drive for http://forum.ubuntu.org.cn/viewtopic.php?t=469792 使用wubi安装的14.04，但是安装完成后开机就会出现这个，求大神解决方法 zz: zichuanqq2010 — 2015-04-25 13:59
[06:16] <^k^> 新 Ubuntu移动应用开发 • ListView对已经构建了的item进行操作的问题 http://forum.ubuntu.org.cn/viewtopic.php?t=469795 我的item会占据整个页面，每个页面是一个Qimage，由于加载的一本书我用的Integers as Models，也就是页面数量，但是当我对页面放大时需要重新从文件读取加载页面（这样才不会因为直
[06:16] <^k^> ─> 接放大变模糊），然而我是预加载了后面的5页，当我改变scale（用于提取页面时的参数， …
[06:46] <^k^> 新 办公、图像、机械电子设计等 • 求 Linux下的股票行情 http://forum.ubuntu.org.cn/viewtopic.php?t=469798 这么过年过去了，请问 Linux系统下的股票软件有像样的了吗？ zz: hexagon — 2015-04-25 14:45
[06:51] <BuMangHuo> test
[06:51] <^k^> BuMangHuo:点点点. 14:51
[06:51] <BuMangHuo> 唉，郁闷的周末
[06:52] <BuMangHuo> HowIsItGoing: happyaron iMadper cherrot 早啊
[06:52] <BuMangHuo> yunfan: momo
[06:52] <cherrot> BuMangHuo, 早啊
[06:54] <archl> BuMangHuo 早，我没睡好，5点起床现在就困了。还不到夜里哪
[06:54] <BuMangHuo> archl: 早
[06:55] <archl> BuMangHuo, 人生为了什么啊。
[06:55] <archl> BuMangHuo, 好久没见到我感兴趣的妹子和汉子了。
[06:55] <BuMangHuo> ...
[06:58] <archl> BuMangHuo 人是为了啥或者啊。
[06:58] <BuMangHuo> ....
[06:59] <FishOneeyed> archl: 你说呢？
[06:59] <archl> FishOneeyed, 无限的享乐
[07:00] <FishOneeyed> archl: 怎么样得到？
[07:00] <archl> FishOneeyed, 改变自己对享乐的认知
[07:00] <archl> FishOneeyed, 太多方案了。
[07:01] <FishOneeyed> archl: 我现在的快乐是，喝咖啡晒太阳
[07:01] <FishOneeyed> archl: 而且是半手动自制咖啡
[07:01] <archl> FishOneeyed, 我的享乐是，知道一切。。。。
[07:02] <FishOneeyed> archl: 有人说这一定不可能做到。但是我说，要看“一切”代表着什么
[07:02] <archl> FishOneeyed, 在任何想要知道的基础上延伸不断延伸延伸
[07:03] <FishOneeyed> archl: 中间有休闲的时间吗？
[07:03] <archl> FishOneeyed, 直到过分的信息暂时接受不了-
[07:03] <archl> FishOneeyed, 如果是休闲，就是减速吧。
[07:04] <FishOneeyed> archl: 这样就好，不至于深陷
[07:04] <FishOneeyed> archl: 每个人都有自己的生活。我现在就像有个人和我聊天
[07:04] <archl> FishOneeyed, 我不会深陷啊。。。我想有个人能和我一起研究。。。
[07:04] <FishOneeyed> archl: 我一边喝着咖啡，一边和人聊天
[07:04] <FishOneeyed> archl: 那要看什么事情了
[07:05] <archl> FishOneeyed, 研究 创造性 从大脑产生的过程和细胞作用，神经介质分泌造成的影响，和如何高效使用。
[07:06] <archl> FishOneeyed, 错误和经验的公开方式，导致创造性无法公开的命题。
[07:06] <FishOneeyed> archl: 神经学，还是生物学？还是哲学？
[07:06] <archl> FishOneeyed, 越拉越广。
[07:06] <archl> FishOneeyed, 是各种学科应用在如何推进创造力上。
[07:07] <archl> FishOneeyed, 不谈学科，学科只是因为要研究时候使人住嘴的划分
[07:07] <FishOneeyed> archl: 其实各个不同的话题都会归结到哲学上。
[07:07] <FishOneeyed> archl: 我不和人讨论哲学，因为我有过不好的经历。
[07:07] <archl> FishOneeyed, 。。。不谈哲学。。。
[07:08] <FishOneeyed> archl: 要是其他的还行
[07:08] <archl> FishOneeyed, 哲学是根据立意就不同了。不该有立意和定义。
[07:08] <FishOneeyed> archl: 机器人
[07:08] <archl> FishOneeyed, 恩机器人轻易在创造性上超越人类。
[07:11] <FishOneeyed> archl: 想问有没有看过几本哲学方面的书？
[07:11] <archl> FishOneeyed, 因为觉得 20年后机器人就会超越人类，所以觉得什么努力都是摆设
[07:11] <archl> FishOneeyed, 不喜欢看书，看书越看疑问越多，因为什么都不相信，不相信论据和逻辑推理
[07:11] <archl> FishOneeyed, 可以看论文
[07:12] <FishOneeyed> archl: 那我建议还是可以多看看
[07:12] <FishOneeyed> archl: 没有研究就没有发言权
[07:12] <archl> FishOneeyed, 看什么书。。。
[07:13] <archl> FishOneeyed, 没有研究就没有发言权 你已经上升到什么高度了？
[07:14] <archl> FishOneeyed, 现在科学写书的难道不是为了让普通人更容易理解而刻意去做吗？
[07:14] <archl> FishOneeyed, 书这种形式早就过时了吧。。。
[07:14] <archl> FishOneeyed, 除了哲学类，为了形成自己的体系。
[07:15] <FishOneeyed> archl: 没关系，书这种形式暂时还不会过时。我也没有到什么高度。我只是看了几本书而已。沉思录就是比较好的一本。
[07:16] <FishOneeyed> archl: 不过，我还是想说，我们还是停止讨论哲学吧。
[07:16] <archl> FishOneeyed, 我认为已经过时了，因为无法解释。
[07:16] <archl> FishOneeyed, 我哪里讨论哲学了。。。
[07:16] <FishOneeyed> archl: 我喝咖啡了。呵呵。
[07:17] <archl> FishOneeyed, ... 我列举了一批你都不想说，那就算了。。。
[07:18] * gebjgd 绿卡走起
[07:18] * gebjgd 绿茶走起
[07:18] <FishOneeyed> archl: 没有不尊重你的意思，只不过还有其他事情要做。
[07:18] <FishOneeyed> archl: 不好意思
[07:19] <FishOneeyed> archl: 但是我绝对尊重你的想法和思想。
[07:19] <FishOneeyed> gebjgd: 有话说话
[07:19] <FishOneeyed> gebjgd: 别玩虚的
[07:20] <archl> FishOneeyed, :) 淡然的期待~
[07:21] <archl> gebjgd, 早上喝巧克力吗？
[07:22] * gebjgd 就会玩不实的
[07:28] <FishOneeyed> gebjgd: 你又高兴了是不是。
[07:28] <FishOneeyed> gebjgd: 五一去荷兰如何？
[07:28] <gebjgd> FishOneeyed, 5。1
[07:29] <gebjgd> FishOneeyed, 那是什么节日
[07:29] <FishOneeyed> gebjgd: 伟大劳动人民的节日
[07:29] <gebjgd> FishOneeyed, 老婆没时间啊
[07:30] <FishOneeyed> gebjgd: 请假呗，我请了4月29，30两天，加上5月1，2，3
[07:30] <FishOneeyed> gebjgd: 一共五天
[07:30] <gebjgd> FishOneeyed, 她写毕设呢
[07:30] <FishOneeyed> gebjgd: 那要好好准备一下。
[07:31] <^k^> 新 常用硬件支持 • ubuntu 14.04 终端 \a 没有声音 http://forum.ubuntu.org.cn/viewtopic.php?t=469806 请教用命令 echo $'\a' 没有声音，是怎么回事？ 除此之外，其他用播放器是有声音的，测试也是有声音的。 注：终端响铃已打开。 zz: jianzhifu — 2015-04-25 15:30
[07:40] <gebjgd> FishOneeyed, spotify -> Phoebe Ryan
[07:40] <gebjgd> FishOneeyed, 试试看
[07:52] <archl> gebjgd, 那是你老婆？
[07:53] <archl> gebjgd, 额。最近又回到了 jamendo怀抱， https://www.jamendo.com/en/radios# relaxation
[07:53] <archl> gebjgd, 哦。你在德国是德语的。
[07:53] <BuMangHuo> cherrot: 你的 ~/.vim/neocomplete.vim 是啥
[07:53] <archl> gebjgd, 好奇，你是懂德语的吧
[07:53] <cherrot> BuMangHuo, 自动补全的片段太长 单独拿出去了
[07:54] <archl> cherrot, 努力的天才嗄
[07:54] <BuMangHuo> cherrot: 恩？ 跟 snipmate 一样？
[07:55] <cherrot> BuMangHuo, 对 就是sinippet 我直接source的
[07:55] <BuMangHuo> 这是个啥思路
[07:55] <BuMangHuo> 为啥要这样
[07:56] <cherrot> BuMangHuo, 太长了 影响.vimrc的可读性呗
[07:56] <cherrot> archl, 换nick了
[07:57] <BuMangHuo> cherrot: 不是，我说你为啥用 neocomplete 代替 snipmate
[07:57] <archl> cherrot, 我不认真了，认真没有救赎
[07:57] <cherrot> BuMangHuo, 不懂唉 有更好的办法？
[07:58] <BuMangHuo> cherrot: The Snippets feature of neocomplete was split into a separate plugin.
[07:58] <BuMangHuo> 看看这个？
[07:58] <BuMangHuo> https://github.com/Shougo/neosnippet.vim 我试试看
[07:58] <^k^> ⇪ ti: Shougo/neosnippet.vim · GitHub
[07:59] <BuMangHuo> cherrot: snipmate 的 tab 跟这个 neocomplete 的 tab 有点冲突
[08:03] <cherrot> BuMangHuo, 听上去好麻烦的说
[08:17] <sennn> hi
[08:17] <^k^> sennn:点点点. 16:17
[08:47] <BuMangHuo> cherrot: jedi-vim 是不全 py 玩的？
[08:47] <cherrot> BuMangHuo, shi a
[08:48] <cherrot> BuMangHuo, 好用的补全当然是语言相关得咯
[08:48] <BuMangHuo> 唉，有没有c的
[08:48] <cherrot> BuMangHuo, clang ?
[08:52] <cherrot> BuMangHuo, 老司机带带我 带我写C带我飞
[08:53] <BuMangHuo> 先飞
[08:53] <BuMangHuo> 掉下来我接
[08:55] <^k^> 新 初学者园地 - 15.04 • win8更新以后虚拟机运行不了了 http://forum.ubuntu.org.cn/viewtopic.php?t=469807 Virtualbox-4.3.24-98716 Ubuntuubuntu-14.04.2-desktop-amd64 前天刚装，使用正常。昨晚win8更新了一波，结果虚拟机就跑步起来了。我换了vbox的版本，又换了CentOS装，都不行。 上网查了一下好像没有类似情况
[08:55] <^k^> ─> ，不过我感觉是win8更新的问题。求问现在该怎么办。。重装win8么。。 显示以下错误： z …
[09:21] <^k^> 新 Ubuntu 15.10 • 14.10 升级到15.04 登陆不了怎么办 http://forum.ubuntu.org.cn/viewtopic.php?t=469809 如题 zz: loujiaye — 2015-04-25 17:20
[09:30] <jusss> test
[09:30] <^k^> jusss:点点点. 17:29
[09:33] <^k^> 新 因特网相关软件 • 请问chromium怎么安装广告过滤 http://forum.ubuntu.org.cn/viewtopic.php?t=469810 firefox浏览本论坛太慢了，就更新了一下，结果更慢且占用cpu严重。 于是就安装了个chromiun，又有新问题了，这个设置里的扩展应用商店打不开的，装不了adblock. 请问chromium怎么安装广告过滤，我只
[09:45] <hoxily> jusss: ping
[09:46] <jusss> hoxily: pong
[09:57] <jusss> onlylove竟然没在，我刚才在微信上找到leeeee了
[10:12] <jusss> jussss: .
[10:53] <iMadper> BuMangHuo: 早
[10:54] <iMadper> BuMangHuo: 下午睡了一觉, 刚睡醒
[10:58] <^k^> 暂无新帖 讲个笑话吧: http://i0.xiaohua.fd.zol-img.com.cn/t_s600x5000/g3/M00/00/08/Cg-4WFI2owuIWup0AAIH_-V9pOcAALrAAN_L5MAAggX490.jpg 神奇的房子,人类太有才了
[11:03] <luobo> 各位大爷
[11:03] <luobo> 编译gcc5.1
[11:03] <luobo> 遇到问题了
[11:03] <luobo> 帮忙看下
[11:03] <luobo> http://p2.lxd.cc/uploads/2015/04/图片1(1).png
[11:03] <^k^> luobo: ⇪ 取标题 403 Forbidden
[11:10] <iMadper> luobo: 为啥要自己编译, 直接用repo里面的就好了
[11:11] <iMadper> luobo: 这种问题你贴出来也没人能回答啊, 得去发gcc的邮件列表
[11:12] <luobo> iMadper: 图个刺激，好吧
[11:12] <luobo> iMadper: 我感觉好多人应该会遇到这个问题
[11:13] <iMadper> luobo: 我感觉自己编译gcc的人就不多
[11:13] <iMadper> gcc version 5.1.0 (GCC) <- 原来我的电脑里已经是5.1了...
[11:14] <luobo> iMadper: 你用的什么版本啊，跟进这么快啊
[11:14] <luobo> iMadper: gcc5.1刚出来不久的
[11:14] <theJian> 我的是4.8.2
[11:14] <theJian> ..
[11:14] <iMadper> luobo: 前两天就升级到5.1了啊.
[11:15] <luobo> ima
[11:15] <luobo> iMadper: 也就是前几天才出来的版本吧
[11:15] <theJian> systray一直有个感叹号的说, 也不知道是网络问题还是什么
[11:16] <luobo> 我现在越喜欢这样的了，开个虚拟机，用着putty和irssi
[11:17] <luobo> 虚拟机也不用开图形化
[11:18] <sennn> GCC 與LLVM合作了
[11:18] <luobo> sennn: 好像是有，clang逼得吗？
[11:18] <sennn> luobo, 有這方面的因素
[11:26] <kandu> hoxily: 晚上好。这两天在外边逛没碰电脑。。
[11:29] <theJian> 怎么让irc客户端自动登录啊, 我每次都得手动输命令登录,
[11:29] <theJian> 我用的hexchat
[11:48] <^k^> 新 屏幕抓图 • 做了一个license的图 http://forum.ubuntu.org.cn/viewtopic.php?t=469812 license.png zz: eexpress — 2015-04-25 19:48
[12:00] <^k^> 新 启动和引导 • 开机显示grub> 进不去ubuntu 该怎么修复？ http://forum.ubuntu.org.cn/viewtopic.php?t=469813 RT，电脑是windows8.1和ubuntu14双系统。 刚才windows下发现c盘只剩2g空间了,于是就用分区助手从d盘切下了10gb想划到c盘,结果重启了然后改完分区大小之后就出现了grub>的画面.按百度上说的直接输
[12:00] <^k^> ─> 入exit就进了windows,可是却没办法再进ubuntu了！ ubuntu里有一份周二就要交的作业.....在线等 …
[12:03] <^k^> 新 初学者园地 - 15.04 • 遇到开机显示grub> 该怎么修复？ 急急急 还有作业在ubuntu里...... http://forum.ubuntu.org.cn/viewtopic.php?t=469814 RT，电脑是windows8.1和ubuntu14双系统。 刚才windows下发现c盘只剩2g空间了,于是就用分区助手从d盘切下了10gb想划到c盘,结果重启了然后改完分区大小之后就出现了gru
[12:11] <kandu> ramhost linode 等增加一个 ip 要每月多少钱?
[12:20] <hoxily> theJian: 登录？
[12:21] <hoxily> theJian: 你是指进行nickname身份认证？
[12:21] <theJian> hoxily: 是的
[12:24] <hoxily> theJian: 我截个图给你看
[12:26] <hoxily> theJian: http://img.vim-cn.com/79/150681b32c62bdbd5ecdd2efb1279f618ded3d.png
[12:26] <^k^> ⇪ ti: image/png
[12:27] <jiero> BuMangHuo, http://haitao.smzdm.com/p/325819#comments 这种耳机到底有什么好的啊
[12:27] <^k^> jiero: ⇪ PHILIPS 飞利浦 SHP9500 头戴式动圈耳机 $49.99（需用码，约￥380）有晒单_海淘单品_海淘专区_什么值得买
[12:27] <hoxily> theJian: http://img.vim-cn.com/01/23815c3f931cade73d9a5ee0c6f5e3364b2b3c.png
[12:27] <^k^> ⇪ ti: image/png
[12:28] <hoxily> theJian: http://img.vim-cn.com/73/563dbfaf225cb2120f360fe071460b2ac32d6d.png
[12:28] <^k^> ⇪ ti: image/png
[12:28] <hoxily> theJian: 三张图
[12:29] <jiero> gebjgd 可能是上次测试有误。。。这次 T510的无线网卡表现很好了。。。
[12:30] <theJian> hoxily: 谢谢, 我设置好了, 我现在重新连接试试
[12:32] <gebjgd> jiero, 测试什么 就用Linux就是了
[12:33] <jiero> gebjgd, 我用我装在移动硬盘上的系统。
[12:35] <gebjgd> jiero, 放在哪里都一样
[12:39] <jiero> gebjgd, 可能是更新内核搞乱了。。。
[12:42] <gebjgd> jiero, 我这里天天用都没有乱过
[12:51] <jiero> gebjgd, 因为不天天用才乱
[13:08] <gebjgd> jiero, 自己的问题啦
[13:08] <gebjgd> jiero, win系统现在也能用 流氓软件一大堆 防不胜防
[14:18] <^k^> 新 办公、图像、机械电子设计等 • 求助！ UBUNTU下CAD软件：DraftSight 2015SP2无法输入汉字 http://forum.ubuntu.org.cn/viewtopic.php?t=469815 ubuntu15.04系统安装了五笔、拼音输入法，安装DraftSight 2015SP2后，画面界面无法输入汉字，如文本样式名称，属性文本内容内都无法输入汉字，可以输入字母、数字
[14:18] <^k^> ─> ，在LibreWrite内就能输入汉字，请问是那儿的问题？ zz: striving106 — 2015-04-25 22:14
[17:27] <kylin> hi
[17:27] <^k^> kylin:点点点. 01:27
[17:28] <kylin> 点不动啊
[17:28] <kylin> 貌似没有活人
[22:53] <hoxily> kandu: 早上好。
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[03:27] <bzoltan_> balloons: the normal process is that non-SDK people send MRs against the project and we review them before integration.
[07:32] <christian_> hi guys
[07:32] <christian_> someone can tell how to set download path for ubuntu-download-manager
[07:33] <christian_> i cant find it on the api docs
[09:41] <akiva-thinkpad> hello all
[10:04] <bzoltan_> vitimiti: would you please check what SDK version do you have? apt-cache policy qtcreator-plugin-ubuntu ubuntu-emulator
[10:05] <bzoltan_> akiva-thinkpad: hello there, how is going?
[10:07] <bzoltan_> vitimiti: The emulators are development enabled by default. You can also check from the terminal with `adb devices` if the emulator is visible.
[10:13] <akiva-thinkpad> bzoltan_, good. Just thinking about the plugin. BTW, I accidently took myself off as driver of the project, putting the sdk team in control. Mind either moving me to the sdk team or putting me back on as driver of the project, so I can actually merge to trunk?
[10:14] <bzoltan_> akiva-thinkpad: done
[10:15] <bzoltan_> akiva-thinkpad: after the project is integrated to the SDK we need to follow the same QA process as the other plugins, so you need to get each MR reviewed and tested before merging to the trunk :)
[10:51] <akiva-thinkpad> bzoltan_, well do
[10:51] <akiva-thinkpad> thanks
[10:52] <bzoltan_> akiva-thinkpad: of course the ultimate target is to upstream your plugin to the main QtC :) specially that in this cycle we are going to move to the QtSDK installation model
[10:54] <akiva-thinkpad> the qtsdk installation model?
[10:57] <bzoltan_> akiva-thinkpad: it means that Ubuntu SDK will not depend on the distro Qt packages, but it will be a compact QtC with all the dependencies included.
[10:58] <akiva-thinkpad> Interesting
[10:59] <bzoltan_> akiva-thinkpad: the problem is that with 15.10 the Qt will be on 5.5 or even newer... when the LTS what we still support is on 5.2 It is impossible to provide the same functionality and same UI from a single QtC what builds on both 5.6 and 5.2 Qt
[10:59] <akiva-thinkpad> bzoltan_, so the goal is to have the sdk up to snuff for all lts's?
[11:00] <bzoltan_> akiva-thinkpad: The developers wil hardly realize the difference :) The bonus is that the Ubuntu SDK will just work on Debian-Fedora-OSX too ... with certain limitations of course
[11:00] <bzoltan_> akiva-thinkpad: Yes, LTS is LTS ... we must provide SDK bits to developers who are using LTS
[11:00] <akiva-thinkpad> bzoltan_, hmmmm, interesting.
[11:11] <vitimiti> bzoltan_, sorry, I reformated the PC and I wasn't looking, let me check
[11:12] <vitimiti> bzoltan_, http://paste.ubuntu.com/10885445/
[11:25] <bzoltan_> vitimiti: cool, so you have the latest stock stuff from 15.04
[11:25] <bzoltan_> vitimiti: do you see the running emulator from adb devices?
[11:26] <vitimiti> bzoltan_, my PC is really slow and it's still reinstalling the click targets, let me install the device again and test that in some time
[11:29] <bzoltan_> vitimiti: OK In the UI you can follow how the emulatordevice boots up.
[11:30] <vitimiti> bzoltan_, yes, but it keeps saying that it's loading with the activity indicator and the device is never ready to install the click build and test it, it's always showing activity in the does it have connection and does it have the developer mode enabled parts
[11:30] <vitimiti> I'll test it again with adb devices, too when I reinstall it, though
[11:31] <bzoltan_> vitimiti: running an emulator is a processor and memory heavy operation. What PC do you use?
[11:36] <vitimiti> bzoltan_, an AMD bobcat, ASUS K53U-A53U. I know it takes time, but with the devel it works, with the devel-proposed it doesn't. Maybe it's more resource wanting and my PC can't cope with it?
[11:38] <vitimiti> Alright, this time it didn't even install. I might wait until I have a better PC for the emulators
[13:14] <mrqtros> Hi all
[13:15] <mrqtros> Ubuntu.Web module isn't working under 15.04 on device
[13:15] <mrqtros> Did anyone meet the same issue?
[13:28] <bzoltan_> vitimiti: your machine should be fine with the emulator. I am working with emulators with much weaker hw. Would you trz the 14.09 proposed?
[13:34] <vitimiti> bzoltan_, I will try it
[13:36] <vitimiti> bzoltan_, I just had my terminal open while opening the SDK and this appeared out of nowhere: http://paste.ubuntu.com/10886447/
[13:36] <Esd_> Hi all, I'm trying to get starting with making an app for ubuntu phone using qa creator. I don't quite understand what a "kit" is though. Could someone please explain that to me?
[13:37] <popey> Esd_: mostly a chroot in which you build the app before deployment
[13:37] <Esd_> popey, are there details of how that works documented anywhere?
[13:38] <akiva-thinkpad> i'll have to thank zbenjamin for correcting my coding style. I was making local variables into members of my class.
[13:38] <popey> Esd_: https://developer.ubuntu.com/en/start/ubuntu-sdk/using-device-kits/
[13:39] <akiva-thinkpad> huh, glad I know how silly that is now.
[13:39] <Esd_> popey, thanks!
[13:39] <popey> np
[15:04] <vitimiti> bzoltan_, I could install the rtm-14.09 proposed one, I'm going to see now if it can recognize a connection and the developer mode
[15:04] <vitimiti> It'll take some time
[15:21] <vitimiti> bzoltan_, now that one works but it seems my project's libraries are too new: "file:///opt/click.ubuntu.com/youtube-dl-ubutouch.vitimiti/1.0/YouTube-DL-UbuTouch/Main.qml:25 plugin cannot be loaded for module "YouTube_DL_UbuTouch": The plugin '/opt/click.ubuntu.com/youtube-dl-ubutouch.vitimiti/1.0/lib/i386-linux-gnu/YouTube_DL_UbuTouch/libYouTube_DL_UbuTouchbackend.so' uses incompatible Qt library. (5.4.1) [debug]"
[16:38] <bzoltan_> vitimiti: You need to use 14.10 Kit for that emulator
[16:39] <bzoltan_> vitimiti: your qml plugin was built on 15.04 Kit what has newer and so incompatible Qt than the 14.09
[16:44] <christian_> hi guys
[16:44] <christian_> someone can help me?... iam using ubuntu-download manager for ubuntu phone qml app
[16:45] <christian_> but i cant set download path
[17:44] <peterMX> Hi guys
[17:47] <christian_> hi
[17:52] <peterMX> How are you @christian_ ?
[17:52] <mzanetti> sturmflut, ping
[17:52] <sturmflut> mzanetti: Pong!
[17:52] <mzanetti> sturmflut, reading your app whishlist
[17:52] <sturmflut> mzanetti: Yay!
[17:52] <mzanetti> sturmflut, re WiFi scanner: http://notyetthere.org/openstore/v1/wifiscanner.mzanetti_0.1_armhf.click (currently crashes on rtm - works on vivid)
[17:52] <sturmflut> Oooooh
[17:52] <mzanetti> sturmflut, re Bluetooth scanner: QtBluetooth should allow scanning already today
[17:53] <peterMX> Some one has a nice app to share?
[17:53] <mzanetti> sturmflut, re tasker: I've got this running on my phone, still needs a ui to add rules, and some phone related plugins: https://github.com/guh/guh/wiki
[17:54] <sturmflut> mzanetti: I talked over it with Wellark_ and my last information was that the connectivity-api is the API to ask for WiFi, Bluetooth etc. Direct access to some services (e.g. NetworkManager) will apparently be restricted later, I don't know which API QtBluetooth talks to
[17:54] <sturmflut> mzanetti: Keep 'em coming ;)
[17:55] <mzanetti> sturmflut, I'm afraid that's it for now
[17:55] <mzanetti> sturmflut, yeah... no chance to do a wifi scanner confined atm... this one only runs unconfined... so make sure to read the source before installing :P
[17:56] <sturmflut> mzanetti: This is just great! I wish I had the time to do more stuff, but that thing called "my actual job" keeps interfering
[17:56] <mzanetti> sturmflut, QtBluetooth talks to Bluez... actually I haven't tried if it runs confined.
[17:58] <mzanetti> sturmflut, ah right, one more
[17:58] <sturmflut> mzanetti: I think the most important thing for now would be a GPS Status app. I've started to build one, but promptly ran into a non-working API again :/ mandel ist about to fix it
[17:58] <mzanetti> sturmflut, I had success in packaging up nmap with an app and do a network scanner - confined
[17:58] <sturmflut> mzanetti: I didn't know that nmap supported unprivileged ICMP
[17:59] <mzanetti> let me push the code
[18:00] <mzanetti> sturmflut, lp:~mzanetti/+junk/netscan
[18:00] <mzanetti> sturmflut, you need to apt-get install nmap:armhf in the chroot
[18:01] <mzanetti> sturmflut, then this should run (probably only tested on vivid), scan your local net, list hosts and allow opening each open port in the browser
[18:01] <sturmflut> I'll have a look at it after wrangling with libSDL2 yet again :)
[18:01] <mzanetti> the terminal would require support for ssh:// and telnet:// to make it really cool :D
[18:03] <sturmflut> mzanetti: Adding all of this to the list right now
[18:12] <christian_> someone have experience using ubuntu-download-manager or ubuntu-content?
[18:12] <christian_> https://developer.ubuntu.com/api/qml/sdk-14.10/Ubuntu.Content.index/
[18:13] <sturmflut> AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH I did it
[18:13] <sturmflut> popey: It might not look like much, but http://i.imgur.com/luUYWCk.png is libSDL2 drawing random pixels
[18:14] <sturmflut> mzanetti: ^^
[18:15] <mzanetti> hah
[18:15] <mzanetti> nice
[18:34] <vitimiti> bzoltan_, yes, I supposed so. Thank you for all the help :)
[18:34] <vitimiti> I'll try compiling with the other kit
[18:46] <mzanetti> sturmflut, this one might be worth linking too, in case someone wants to pick up a port: https://github.com/rogora/hangish
[19:03] <sturmflut> mzanetti: Added!
[19:03] <sturmflut> mzanetti: Looks quite interesting, I didn't know that the Hangouts API is open enough.
[20:37] <cimm> What should I listen to to know a page was pushed on top of the stack? Is there an onVisible style handler on PageStack? Can't find anything in the documentation.
[20:51] <cimm> answering my own question: onVisibleChanged seems to work
[22:00] <parnstermia|2> how can i built an visual interface for my c++ ap?
[22:00] <parnstermia|2> parnstermia|2: any tips of where to start?
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2024-05-13T22:11:09.166036
| 2015-04-25T00:00:00 |
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2015-04-25-#ubuntu-devel
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[01:08] <ScottK> rbasak: OK. Tried to copy it over again.
[03:07] <ScottK> rbasak: Fixed.
[11:06] <peat-psuwit> Do you have any tip for compiling gst-plugins-bad1.0?
[11:06] <peat-psuwit> it says it cannot find mir_toolkit/mir_c
[11:06] <peat-psuwit> lient_library.h
[12:48] <pitti> ev: yes, to verify correct Depends:; but tests can have Restrictions: needs-recommends
[12:49] <pitti> cjwatson_: thanks, will watch out! but I think wgrant disabled them again anyway, until we sort out the binary version issue, right?
[14:21] <wgrant> pitti: Yeah, disaled everywhere now, though there was one set of builds (clamav) in the primary archive that ddeb-retriever should have caught.
[14:21] <wgrant> I haven't checked if it did.
[17:12] <teward> this may sound a little weird, but is it possible to force apt install failure / crash bugs to also include the systemd status command for the individual application that failed? 'Cause https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/nginx/+bug/1447294 shows that it failed to install with error 1, but not actual information about *why* it failed.
[17:12] <teward> my guess is it started nginx but it failed to bind, but apport didn't include that data.
[17:12] <teward> (it only put the DpkgTerminalHistory, which states there was an error and to run additional commands to get status or try and find the problem)
[17:38] <teward> i think maybe its better asked as, "Is it possible to instruct Apport to include additional output from commands for a given package when a bug is filed for it?"
[17:38] <teward> and if so how
[18:22] <cjwatson_> teward: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Apport#Per-package_Apport_Hooks
[18:40] <teward> cjwatson: thanks
[19:07] <brendand_> anyone might know how i ended up with two cursors on the scren after upgrading to the final cut of vivid?
[19:08] <brendand_> one of which doesn't do anything, and is making life extremely difficult right now
[19:08] <brendand_> also lost the ctrl+alt+t terminal short cut - can't remember how to restore that...
[19:09] <brendand_> it is set in keyboard settings...
[19:11] <tnkhanh> hi where do I download the latest ubuntu on dev branch
[22:52] <teward> tnkhanh: Ubuntu 15.04 was released as stable a couple days ago. W-series isn't open yet, though, so it probably doesn't yet have anything for a 'dev branch'
[22:52] <teward> unless i'm misunderstanding what you're asking
[23:01] <tnkhanh> teward: ok I see
[23:02] <tnkhanh> teward: I just want to be always up-to date ;)
[23:03] <tnkhanh> teward: I installed the dev branch one off 15.04 a month earlier, will it be the same as the released one now?
[23:03] <teward> tnkhanh: you can either do a complete reinstall with the final images, or `sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get dist-upgrade` and get all the updates since then
[23:04] <teward> since the repositories still exist, and they *do* change a lot during dev
[23:04] <tnkhanh> teward: I see, I justt did the sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade thing
[23:05] <teward> in either case the repositories are still the same 'location' - just doing a typical apt-get upgrade (or dist-upgrade to force all the updates) will get you to the current state of the repositories
[23:05] <teward> i'd make sure thoug that you have -updates and -security repositories enabled as well in your sources.list as well
[23:05] <teward> s/will get you/should get you/
[23:06] <tnkhanh> thanks, I see
[23:06] <tnkhanh> er what do you mean by "s/will get you"
[23:06] <teward> tnkhanh: 'sed'
[23:06] <teward> tnkhanh: IRC version of saying "Where I said 'will get you' i meant to say 'should get you'"
[23:07] <teward> but it's ultimately the same thing as I said before
[23:07] <tnkhanh> teward: ohh I see, weird IRC stuff
[23:07] <teward> really it's just shorthand but meh
[23:08] <teward> a short way of saying "Find this in my last statement, and replace it with this because I mistyped"
[23:08] <teward> irrelevant to the ultimate point though
[23:08] <tnkhanh> lol amazing
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ubuntu-chat
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2024-05-13T22:11:09.171173
| 2015-04-25T00:00:00 |
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"wgrant"
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2015-04-25-#ubuntu-arm
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[22:56] <geri> hi
[22:56] <geri> is ubuntu available for ARMv5t (armel) ??
[22:56] <k1l> geri: the old ones like the rpi1 uses were dropped a long time ago
[22:57] <geri> oh why?
[22:59] <geri> k1l: ?
[22:59] <k1l> for the detailed "why" you need to wait for arm specialists to answer that.
[23:02] <geri> i have a ARMv9 with thumb instructions and NEON
[23:02] <geri> which image will i need?
[23:18] <geri> k1l: ?
[23:18] <geri> can i build ubuntu from source?
[23:19] <k1l> geri: see the topic
[23:19] <k1l> there is a wiki page for arm that explains that
[23:22] <geri> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ARM ?
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ubuntu-chat
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2024-05-13T22:11:09.174030
| 2015-04-25T00:00:00 |
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2015-04-25-#ubuntu-dz
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[17:56] <metot> السلام عليكم
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ubuntu-chat
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2024-05-13T22:11:09.174682
| 2015-04-25T00:00:00 |
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"metot"
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"url": "https://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2015/04/25/%23ubuntu-dz.txt",
"channel": "#ubuntu-dz"
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2015-04-25-#ubuntu-us-dc
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[23:52] <swift110> hello all
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ubuntu-chat
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2024-05-13T22:11:09.176319
| 2015-04-25T00:00:00 |
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2015-04-25-#bzr
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[00:06] <mark06> is it possible to clone all branches from a project into a single repository?
[00:07] <mark06> for example if you want to mirror your bazaar project into github, you need to keep track of each branch manually
[00:29] <jelmer> mark06: bzrtools has a command for that
[00:30] <jelmer> mark06: oh, hmm, perhaps it was a separate plugin
[00:31] <mark06> hmm I guess git-bzr-ng will not understand a multi-branch bzr repo anyway
[00:32] <jelmer> mark06: I think that's more of a git-bzr-ng than a bzr question
[00:34] <mark06> the use I would make of that is irrelevant
[00:34] <mark06> I still was curious to know if bzr was capable of doing that
[00:35] <mark06> but thanks anyway!
[00:36] <jelmer> mark06: if you use colocated branches, cloning a bzr directory somewhere should clone all branches
[00:36] <mark06> I asked because I saw some other extension for git with syntax like git clone bzr::lp:project
[00:37] <mark06> docs saying that it would clone all branches, but the example was actually with bzr:// protocol and not from launchpad
[00:37] <mark06> I tried same url style but got a really weird error on windows
[00:38] <mark06> anyway, next question, is bzr code ready to be compiled under 64-bit?
[00:39] <mark06> I was thinking about building bzr 2.6 for windows, but it needs to compile on both 32 and 64-bit
[00:39] <jelmer> mark06: Yeah, it has worked on 64-bit for a long time - for as long as we've been running it on 64-bit Linux machines
[00:39] <mark06> I saw one windows installer/build project somewhere but can't remember, anyone knows this?
[00:40] <mark06> why no 64-bit release then jelmer?
[00:40] <jelmer> mark06: see https://bugs.launchpad.net/bzr/+bug/331342
[00:42] <mark06> so the fix is as easy as making the installer like 64-bit python?
[00:42] <mark06> what is the installer built with, nsis by any chance?
[00:43] * jelmer doesn't have a clue
[00:45] <mark06> ok
[00:45] <jelmer> (was never involved with the Windows side of things)
[00:46] * mark06 hopes at least 64-bit compiation is not an issue if he ever tries to compile bzr on windows
[00:48] <mark06> should 2.6 bring reasobable bug fixes and performance on windows as compared to current release 2.5?
[00:48] <jelmer> mark06: I'm pretty sure it won't be an issue, bzr itself doesn't have anything problematic wrt 64 bit
[00:49] <mark06> one thing I experience is small display bug with qbzr that I fix by updating the plugin separately.... another issue is that it's really ugly on windows 8... I needed to use compatibility mode
[00:50] <jelmer> mark06: I'm sure other people would appreciate it if you made a 64bit build and put it out there :)
[00:50] <mark06> ok I will maybe give it a try if I have time
[01:16] <mark06> thanks all!
[01:16] <mark06> good night
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ubuntu-chat
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2024-05-13T22:11:09.181203
| 2015-04-25T00:00:00 |
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2015-04-25-#ubuntu-mythtv
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[15:54] <StrvnMrvn> when building deb/buntu packages as described at https://github.com/MythTV/packaging/tree/master/deb
[15:55] <StrvnMrvn> using ./build-debs.sh master ~/mythtv my output ends up being http://pastebin.com/TpT1pfTY
[15:55] <StrvnMrvn> was expecting mythtv_0.28.0~master....
[15:56] <StrvnMrvn> any tips on how to properly select the branch while trying to build 0.28/head?
[21:43] <karlshea> I’m having a hard time getting a Ceton Infinitv PCI card working… the cable card is paired, and I can get to the web interface just fine, but mythtv can’t seem to tune to any channel and the mplayer test is saying it’s running out of cache.
[21:44] <karlshea> Logs show an error about the ringbuffer and “Taking too long to be allowed to read"
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ubuntu-chat
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2024-05-13T22:11:09.187388
| 2015-04-25T00:00:00 |
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2015-04-25-#ubuntu-no
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[07:42] <Beridian> Hei jeg sitter og oppgradere Ubuntu til 15.04, men under installasjonen så kræsjer X. Er dette noe som er kjent?
[08:57] <Blueking> skjerm driver ?
[09:31] <Beridian> Nja. Fersk installasjon av 14.10. Nvidia gpu i sli.
[11:32] <Mathsterk> grub på laptopen trynte
[11:32] <Mathsterk> tror jeg skal reinstallere
[13:34] <RoyK> Mathsterk: kan du ikke bare reinstallere grub fra en live-greie?
[13:35] <Mathsterk> har prøvd, gtub liker ikke gpt :p
[14:09] <RoyK> trenger ikke grub en liten hjelpepartisjon med fat32 for å funke på UEFI?
[14:09] <RoyK> tror det ble oppretta noe sånt da Malinux reinstallerte sist
[14:10] <RoyK> måtte inn og skrote litt partisjoner manuelt (dd if=/dev/zero ...) for å få installert på vanlig vis etter det
[14:10] <RoyK> greit å slippe hjelpepartisjoner på fat32 som UEFI skal bruke hvis du vil speile rota med md :P
[14:22] <Malinux> ja, tror den laget en fat32-partisjon, husker jeg ikke feil :)
[14:22] <Malinux> eller nei, den var vfat var den
[14:23] <RoyK> vfat == fat32
[14:23] <Malinux> ah, det visste jeg visst ikke :S
[15:47] <RoyK> eller - vfat er driveren som leser/skriver fat12/16/32
[15:48] <RoyK> bare ikk exfat, siden M$ har kommet med diverse "patenter" (med masse apostrofer) som gjør det umulig å implementere det i OSS
[15:50] <RoyK> FAT8 fantes vel også, ser jeg
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ubuntu-chat
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2024-05-13T22:11:09.192406
| 2015-04-25T00:00:00 |
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"Beridian",
"Blueking",
"Malinux",
"Mathsterk",
"RoyK"
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"channel": "#ubuntu-no"
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2015-04-25-#launchpad
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[21:17] <addiks> hi, i am trying to build patched packages for unity-7.2.5 (Latest is 7.3.2), but launchpad does not let me (Rejected) because "Version older than that in the archive". What do i need to do to build patched packages for an old version?
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ubuntu-chat
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2024-05-13T22:11:09.194204
| 2015-04-25T00:00:00 |
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"addiks"
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2015-04-25-#kubuntu
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[00:00] <stormchaser3000> i have used 15.04
[00:00] <stormchaser3000> but i find 15.04 verry buiggy sometimes
[00:00] <stormchaser3000> (i am using 15.04)
[00:00] <Taggnostr4> Now kscreenloc is eating CPU
[00:00] <rosco_y> When I drag an application's window from one panel to another, it wants to get stuck in between the two panels. Does anyone know of a tweak to make it easy to drag things back and forth between the panels?
[00:01] <tuv0k> Taggnostr4: you get logged in?
[00:01] <Taggnostr4> No
[00:01] <Taggnostr4> It gets stuck on the loading window just after the login
[00:01] <tuv0k> are you using nouvea or nvidias binary?
[00:02] <Taggnostr4> With failsafe it just becomes black for a few seconds and kicks me back to the login screen
[00:02] <Taggnostr4> I have nvidia, maybe also their drivers
[00:02] <Taggnostr4> How can I check?
[00:04] <tuv0k> lspci -v
[00:05] <Taggnostr4> I see some nvidia stuff in the output
[00:06] <Taggnostr4> VGA compatible controller: nvidia corporation
[00:07] <tuv0k> sudo dpkg --get-selections | grep nvidia
[00:08] <Taggnostr4> I see 8 results
[00:09] <Taggnostr4> 5 with install, 3 with deinstall
[00:11] <Taggnostr4> tuv0k, should I remove/uninstall them?
[00:11] <tuv0k> try that
[00:12] <Taggnostr4> Using apt-get remove?
[00:12] <tuv0k> yup
[00:14] <stormchaser3000> nvidia is a pain the rear
[00:15] <Taggnostr4> Now I don't even get to the login screen...
[00:16] <tuv0k> reinstall
[00:17] <Taggnostr4> The nvidia drivers?
[00:18] <darthanubis> yes
[00:18] <darthanubis> muon is terrible
[00:19] <Taggnostr4> The terminal looks better without nvidia drivers :)
[00:24] <Taggnostr4> Got the login screen
[00:25] <Taggnostr4> Still stuck at the loading screen
[00:25] <Taggnostr4> Are there non nvidia drivers that I can use instead?
[00:26] <darthanubis> nouveau
[00:26] <darthanubis> but they were supposed to work once the nvidia ones were removed
[00:26] <Taggnostr4> I saw that in some error message earlier
[00:27] <Taggnostr4> What is the difference between all the nvidia drivers I see from apt?
[00:28] <Taggnostr4> I had nvidia-304, but I also see 310, 319, 331 etc
[00:30] <darthanubis> you want the newest one
[00:30] <darthanubis> 331
[00:30] <Taggnostr4> OK
[00:41] <Taggnostr4> The most recent seems to be 346
[00:41] <Taggnostr4> I'm installing that now
[00:41] <gunndawg> confirmed 346
[00:46] <|aaron> just upgraded from 14.10 to 1504. is there any way to restore my old kde configuration? i backed up my ~/.kde before upgrade but restoring seems to have zero effect
[00:49] <gunndawg> |aaron: as far as I know your KDE settings will not carry over
[00:51] <Taggnostr4> Even with 346 I get no login screen
[00:51] <Taggnostr4> The good thing is that no one is eating CPU now
[00:52] <|aaron> gunndawg: thanks i can just reconfigure them i guess
[00:52] <Taggnostr4> Anything else I could try?
[01:10] <Taggnostr4> With nouveau I get nouveau failed to idle channel
[01:11] <Taggnostr4> Also GPU lockup switching to fbcon
[01:17] <wheelzzz> hey just wondering do i need to re install to get latest 15.04 or can i just upgrade i did sudo apt-get dist-upgrade no lux
[01:22] <wheelzzz> never mind durr list latest version already updated i guess
[01:30] <Wireless> Is there a way to not check for automatic updates with muon?
[01:32] <Taggnostr4> I managed to login and it's still all black, but I got some windows to pop up
[01:32] <Taggnostr4> The windows have no windows decorations
[01:35] <Taggnostr4> I got access to the settings page, any thing I try from there?
[01:45] <Taggnostr4> How can I revert back to 14.10?
[01:46] <Unit193> You can only re-install.
[01:46] <Taggnostr4> How?
[01:47] <Unit193> I'd also go with 14.04, the LTS. You grab the ISO, install.
[01:47] <Taggnostr4> I can't make 15.04 work
[01:48] <Taggnostr4> Do I need to reformat everything?
[01:48] <Unit193> I believe there is a way to keep /home, but you can't "downgrade"
[01:48] <Taggnostr4> :/
[01:48] <QuantumCAT5Cable> Hey Tagg, whats the problem? I had something similar from the sounds of it
[01:49] <QuantumCAT5Cable> and I managed to fix it.
[01:49] <QuantumCAT5Cable> or at least put a bandaid on it.
[01:49] <Taggnostr4> I get to the login screen, I login then either it's all black, or it gets stuck to the loading screen
[01:50] <QuantumCAT5Cable> Has it ever worked?
[01:50] <Taggnostr4> I had 14.10 before and had no problems
[01:50] <Taggnostr4> I have nvidia graphics
[01:51] <Taggnostr4> Spent 3 hours trying different combinations of drivers to no avail
[01:52] <QuantumCAT5Cable> Have you tried restarting X in a virtual terminal? Always seems to be a first step in comp stuff. "Have you tried turning it back on and off?"
[01:52] <Taggnostr4> How do I restart it?
[01:53] <Taggnostr4> kwin_x11 is eating all the CPU btw
[01:54] <QuantumCAT5Cable> So in full disclosure, I'm actually just a noob right, but I did fix a similar problem. So when I tell you 'restart' im not entirely sure whether this will actually RESTART. But while you are in the black screen, press ctrl+alt+F1 and stype startx
[01:55] <Taggnostr4> I tried that already, I get to another black screen
[01:55] <Taggnostr4> I can see the cursor but nothing else
[01:56] <gunndawg> anyone know why I have to adjust my openGL vertical sync settings every time I log in to fix screen tearing?
[01:56] <Taggnostr4> So basically the same I get after login
[01:56] <gunndawg> Taggnostr4: I had that problem last night
[01:56] <QuantumCAT5Cable> Have you tried going to the other x-sessions (I think thats the name of them) on the F6-F9?
[01:56] <gunndawg> Taggnostr4: it happened after I added a paramer to fix screen tearing. I had to re install
[01:58] <Taggnostr4> If I kill kwin_x11 go back to f7, and do alt+f1 I get the menu
[01:58] <Taggnostr4> Everything else is still black
[01:58] <QuantumCAT5Cable> Have you tried removing cache?
[01:58] <gunndawg> Taggnostr4: it's as if Plasma is not starting
[01:58] <Taggnostr4> I can open windows from the menu, but they have no borders
[01:59] <QuantumCAT5Cable> so go back in the virtual terminal and type:
[01:59] <QuantumCAT5Cable> sudo service sddm stop
[01:59] <QuantumCAT5Cable> rm -rf ~/.cache
[01:59] <QuantumCAT5Cable> rm ~/.config/kwinrc
[01:59] <QuantumCAT5Cable> then type startx
[02:00] <QuantumCAT5Cable> Is what finnally fixed my issue with the black screen on login
[02:01] <Taggnostr4> Still black :/
[02:01] <QuantumCAT5Cable> Well damn
[02:01] <Taggnostr4> I can try a reboot
[02:01] <gunndawg> anyone know why I have to adjust my openGL vertical sync settings every time I log in to fix screen tearing?
[02:01] <QuantumCAT5Cable> Always worth it I guess Tagg.
[02:02] <Taggnostr4> I think the problem is kwin_x11 getting stuck at 100% CPU
[02:02] <Taggnostr4> Now it started again and nothing works
[02:03] <QuantumCAT5Cable> Well, if it that were truely the case, would you be able to go into a virtual terminal? Because if it was truely 100% then Im not sure it would respond.
[02:03] <QuantumCAT5Cable> But maybe there is some kind of safety net for that.
[02:03] <Taggnostr4> I can, and if I kill it I can see the undecorated windows
[02:06] <QuantumCAT5Cable> Did it ever work on a live USB or have you only tried it on an installation?
[02:06] <Taggnostr4> I upgraded directly from 14.10
[02:07] <Taggnostr4> I'm trying a different nvidia driver
[02:07] <QuantumCAT5Cable> Ah. Try it on a live USB, if it doesn't work there, I would suspsect driver issues. If it works there, but not on the upgrade then I would suspect something went wrong on the upgrade.
[02:07] <QuantumCAT5Cable> Rather than a driver
[02:08] <Taggnostr4> During upgrade I got a prompt that asked me to pick between lightdm and sddm and initially picked lightdm
[02:09] <Taggnostr4> Now I switched to sddm, but maybe something is not set correctly?
[02:09] <QuantumCAT5Cable> I'm unfamilliar with the technicalities behind the display managers. Noob afterall.
[02:10] <Taggnostr4> Do you have a plasma process running?
[02:10] <Taggnostr4> Maybe gunndawg is right
[02:10] <QuantumCAT5Cable> plasmashell
[02:11] <Taggnostr4> I could try to start that
[02:11] <QuantumCAT5Cable> Give it a shot
[02:14] <Taggnostr4> Nope
[02:15] <QuantumCAT5Cable> Well hmm.
[02:17] <QuantumCAT5Cable> ps
[02:17] <QuantumCAT5Cable> woops.
[02:17] <QuantumCAT5Cable> wrong tab.
[02:18] <MrPenguin_> Is there an option to make the kubuntu start menu look like xubuntus with the columns?
[02:19] <Taggnostr4> I wonder if there's a way to disable all the graphic effects
[02:20] <Taggnostr4> gunndawg, I just found an option about tearing prevention
[02:21] <darthanubis> anyone use kamera
[02:22] <darthanubis> the package installs with no binary
[02:22] <darthanubis> come on!
[02:30] <Taggnostr4> Now I can't even access the shell anymore
[02:30] <gunndawg> Taggnostr4: yeah? where at?
[02:30] <darthanubis> just keep home and reinstall fresh
[02:31] <Taggnostr4> gunndawg, try to go in settings and write vertical tearing or vsync at the top right
[02:31] <Taggnostr4> darthanubis, from a live CD?
[02:32] <gunndawg> oh... well thsi is interesting. Opened up Sytem Settings and it errors out saying "System sEttings was unable to find any views, and hence has nothing to display"
[02:33] <gunndawg> Taggnostr4: so I guess I cant even get to settings now :(
[02:34] <Taggnostr4> I can't get anywhere anymore
[02:34] <gunndawg> Taggnostr4: yeah I cant open system settings
[02:34] <QuantumCAT5Cable> Even the virtual terminals?
[02:35] <Taggnostr4> I start the PC, everything is black, no login screen, no virtual terminals, and the CPU is running high
[02:35] <QuantumCAT5Cable> Yep, sounds like fresh reinstall time.
[02:35] <gunndawg> sounds like back to 14.04 for the time being.. heh
[02:35] <Taggnostr4> :/
[02:37] <Taggnostr4> I can get to recovery mode
[02:37] <darthanubis> yes, from a livecd or usb stick
[02:38] <Taggnostr4> If I can get to a shell maybe I can fix something
[02:39] <darthanubis> if anything delete your .kde directory if you want to keep futzing around
[02:39] <darthanubis> but I'd install clean
[02:39] <darthanubis> I just installed clean in 10 mins
[02:39] <darthanubis> but I have a ssd
[02:40] <Taggnostr4> It took me about 4 hours between install and download
[02:40] <darthanubis> I had updated from beta and there was a bug that did not leave until I reinstalled
[02:40] <darthanubis> i was at 14.10, and just tried to upgraded kde
[02:40] <Taggnostr4> And I have to leave for the weekend in a couple of hours
[02:40] <darthanubis> it broke
[02:40] <darthanubis> start your install now
[02:41] <darthanubis> why does it take 4 hours?
[02:41] <darthanubis> download via torrent
[02:41] <Taggnostr4> I have to download again, don't I?
[02:41] <Taggnostr4> I got the login back \o/
[02:41] <darthanubis> you never download it to begin with right?
[02:41] <Taggnostr4> Nope, I did do-release-upgrade
[02:42] <darthanubis> yeah, well get the iso
[02:42] <Taggnostr4> The installation also took a couple of hours
[02:42] <darthanubis> why?
[02:42] <Taggnostr4> Old PC
[02:42] <QuantumCAT5Cable> Did you run into problems? Im not sure it took mine remotely that long, but that was from a liveUSB.
[02:42] <darthanubis> what specs?
[02:43] <darthanubis> i386?
[02:43] <Taggnostr4> Core 2, 2 GB of ram
[02:43] <Taggnostr4> It's from 8-9 years ago
[02:43] <darthanubis> thats plenty
[02:43] <darthanubis> should not take 4 hours
[02:43] <darthanubis> noway
[02:44] <darthanubis> what kind of HD?
[02:44] <Taggnostr4> 2 were from the download
[02:44] <Taggnostr4> The rest from the installation
[02:44] <darthanubis> still, does not take two hours to install
[02:44] <darthanubis> the install process is not that long
[02:44] <Taggnostr4> It could have been 2.5 and 1 for installation
[02:44] <Taggnostr4> Sshd
[02:44] <darthanubis> lol
[02:44] <darthanubis> no way two hours
[02:44] <darthanubis> or an hour
[02:45] <Taggnostr4> I could be wrong
[02:45] <darthanubis> on a ssd
[02:45] <Etriaph> Took me 22 minutes on an SSD.
[02:45] <darthanubis> absolutely
[02:45] <darthanubis> exactly
[02:45] <Etriaph> And I downloaded updates while I did it.
[02:45] <Taggnostr4> At what time I logged in?
[02:45] <darthanubis> don't download the iso directly, download via torent
[02:45] <darthanubis> it'll be faster
[02:46] <Taggnostr4> I will have to find another PC first
[02:46] <darthanubis> what are you using to type this?
[02:47] <Taggnostr4> Phone
[02:48] <darthanubis> yikes
[02:48] <QuantumCAT5Cable> Phone IRC? Ive never thought about that.
[02:48] <darthanubis> queassel-droid
[02:48] <darthanubis> quassel-droid
[02:49] <makuseru> Just wondering if anyone knows a fix for not being able to add programs to the panel in 15.04 now?
[02:50] <Taggnostr4> Is there any way to reinstall/repair from the terminal?
[02:52] <Taggnostr4> If I try to remove nouveau I get an error
[02:52] <darthanubis> Taggnostr4: your upgrade is trashed
[02:52] <darthanubis> makuseru: what do you mean?
[02:52] <darthanubis> not add to the panel? Add in what way?
[02:53] <QuantumCAT5Cable> Taggnostr4: Im checking around, and Im not seeing anything for you to be able to do so from the terminal. I'm with darthanubis, its probably gone, and its better to just reinstall from an ISO.
[02:54] <Taggnostr4> OK
[02:54] <QuantumCAT5Cable> and to be honest, if there is way, its proabbly more effort than its worth. If you make a liveUSB, you can retrieve whatever important files off of there and store it somewhere else.
[02:55] <Taggnostr4> I'm just not sure I have enough time to download it again
[02:55] <QuantumCAT5Cable> Matter of fact, do you still have the ISO for the previous version? Use that to download the new ISO while you're gone.
[02:55] <darthanubis> your wasting time now
[02:56] <darthanubis> it could have been half way done by now
[02:56] <Taggnostr4> I'm leaving for the weekend, so I won't need the PC anyway
[02:56] <Taggnostr4> I will probably try again once I come back
[02:57] <makuseru> darthanubis: In KDE 4 you could add programs from the KMenu to the panel, like firefox, or w/e else. But that feature seems to be missing now.
[03:00] <darthanubis> I just add them as favorites in the menu
[03:00] <darthanubis> rt-click an application in kmenu then select favorite
[03:00] <darthanubis> or alt-f2 and type the name
[03:00] <makuseru> Right, but you use to be able to add them directly to the panel as well, which is much easier to use IMO.
[03:01] <darthanubis> I suppose if you really wanted to, you could add a new panel
[03:01] <rottingdead> Isn't KDE built of all widgets, or no? It's what it seems to me anyway.
[03:01] <darthanubis> nope, you still can do it!
[03:01] <darthanubis> I won't be doing it
[03:02] <darthanubis> but it is as easy as drop and drop
[03:02] <darthanubis> just unlock the panel first
[03:02] <makuseru> Its not as easy as drag and drop.
[03:02] <makuseru> It will not accept that anymore.
[03:03] <darthanubis> I just did it
[03:03] <makuseru> Really? Mine wont allow a drag and drop at all.
[03:03] <makuseru> I figured they just got rid of that feature.
[03:03] <darthanubis> yes
[03:03] <darthanubis> I just grabbed chromium from my favorites, and dragged i tto the panel, and dropped it
[03:03] <makuseru> Huh, might have to try a fresh reinstall instead of this upgrade from 14.10 then, maybe something broke.
[03:04] <darthanubis> it fell near the notification area
[03:04] <darthanubis> doubt it
[03:05] <makuseru> Dont know what the heck is going on then, because theres no way its letting me drag something into the panel.
[03:17] <QuantumCAT5Cable> Im using two monitors, is it possible to have setup a panel to show only the applications on that monitor and have it automatically assign the applications to whatever panel its supposed to be on?
[03:45] <BassFace> I need help please with an issue I'm having with Precise on a powerpc
[04:06] <QualityAddict> Curious as to how many found 15.04 usable... sadly I ran into obvious instability and had to return to 14.10.
[04:07] <darthanubis> using it
[04:13] <QualityAddict> darthanubis: one of the lucky ones I suppose
[04:13] <QualityAddict> I don't consider my hardware and setup anything special
[04:14] <QualityAddict> It certainly runs 14.10 just fine minus sound issues
[04:14] <QualityAddict> Seems it has something to do with the new Plasma look which I love
[04:14] <darthanubis> I only have sometime weird things happen. But I just clean installed, and all is well.
[04:15] <darthanubis> I keep /home and kept on rolling
[04:16] <darthanubis> I'm using plasma 5.3beta which is a little unstable
[04:17] <QualityAddict> With the Plasma as part of 15.04 I would lose the panel, opening apps would freeze, and eventually I get nothing but a black screen and was frozen
[04:18] <QualityAddict> Was worse it seemed if I upgraded to nvidia-current driver
[04:19] <darthanubis> did you upgrade or clean install?
[04:19] <darthanubis> I'm betting you upgraded
[04:20] <QualityAddict> Nope, clean install
[04:20] <darthanubis> wow
[04:20] <QuantumCAT5Cable> Seems to be a theme tonight.
[04:20] <Taggnostr4> Welcome to the club
[04:20] <darthanubis> what kind of machine you have?
[04:21] <darthanubis> I don't know how you guys systems break in such spectacular fashion?
[04:21] <darthanubis> Taggnostr4: you upgraded
[04:21] <QualityAddict> Intel Core i7 3930K 3.20 with 32 GB ram
[04:22] <QualityAddict> and running three monitors
[04:22] <QuantumCAT5Cable> QualityAddict: what are you doing with 32 gigs if you don't mind me asking?
[04:22] <darthanubis> nice
[04:22] <darthanubis> I'm dual monitored no problem
[04:22] <QualityAddict> lmao, surfing the web
[04:22] <QuantumCAT5Cable> lol
[04:22] <QualityAddict> I'm not using it to its potential, that's for sure
[04:23] <darthanubis> plasma crashes when I add widgets to the desktop, but starts back up. I suspect if I rolled back to 5.2 it'd be stable
[04:23] <Headpool182> hello
[04:23] <Headpool182> Anyone have recommendations for system stability software?
[04:23] <Headpool182> planning on overclocking
[04:24] <QualityAddict> how can I tell what graphics card I have installed? I know it's nvidia but want the model
[04:24] <QualityAddict> Tried looking in KInfoCenter but don't see it
[04:25] <Headpool182> are you on a laptop?
[04:25] <QualityAddict> Desktop
[04:25] <Guest31612> You mean like running intelburntest to make sure any instability is caught?
[04:26] <QualityAddict> n/m found it, running a GeForce GTX 660 Ti
[04:27] <Guest31612> Haven't done that in a while, but it give it a pretty good torture test, and will likey be stable if it can survive a long run without crashing.
[04:35] <QualityAddict> rollin' a do-release-upgrade for the heck of it... see what happens lol
[04:37] <darthanubis> plasma 5.3 is wicked unstable
[04:39] <darthanubis> sudo ppa-purge ppa:kubuntu-ppa/beta
[06:02] <basse> hi, is it normal that after upgrading to vivid, Dolphin filemanagers about box says it's 14.12.3 with KDE Developent Platform version 4.14.6
[06:03] <basse> as other apps like Kate for example is KDE Frameworks 5.9.0
[06:04] <MoonUnit`> yup it's normal, not everything has been completely ported to kf5 yet
[06:04] <MoonUnit`> http://developer.kde.org/~cfeck/portingstatus.html
[06:04] <basse> alright. thanks! making sure that i didn't mess up the update somehow.
[06:05] <basse> my problem is that these not ported apps don't seem to respect all theme colors. dolphin has pure white font in menues and i dont seem to be able to change that anywhere..
[06:05] <basse> ?
[06:14] <ShadowHatesYou> Anyone know what the name of the font used by Konsole was in Plasma 4? I just updated to Plasma 5 and it stomped all over my settings, I can barely read my terminals now
[06:16] <ShadowHatesYou> NM, found it. Dejavu
[06:16] <ShadowHatesYou> <3
[06:36] <madeti> how to remove kwallet in plasma 5, kubuntu 15.04
[06:36] <madeti> or how to disable it?
[06:38] <donnie> madeti: it save your password. Why do you want to remove it? You can just set an empty password and it will stop bothering you.
[06:39] <madeti> donnie: it's just annoying
[06:46] <madeti> donnie: I have set an empty password, now when I am connecting to a wifi, it says "authorization supplicant timed out"
[06:56] <madeti> nvm sorted it out
[07:31] <lordievader> Good morning.
[07:31] <Graf_Westerholt> Oi lordievader
[07:32] <MoonUnit`> morning
[07:32] <lordievader> Hey Graf_Westerholt, MoonUnit`
[09:07] <lordievader> !info plasma-desktop
[09:36] <hyperion87> Hi! I just installed Kubuntu 15.04. After sleep/screen-standby the login prompt appears. How can this switched off? The old checkbox (Power management > advanced > lock screen after resume) is not available anymore.
[09:46] <MoonUnit`> hyperion87: it's in settings/desktop behaviour/screen locking.
[09:47] <hyperion87> MoonUnit`: Thanks, found it! :)
[09:48] <MoonUnit`> wasn't obvious for me either
[09:57] <naftilos76> Hi i am trying Kubuntu 15.04 live dvd 64bit but, as lots of people have encountered, i get a blank display after some time. It is obviously a graphics card issue. My Graphics card is a GeForce 9600 GT which is old i know. I tried selecting nomodeset and no acpi modes but i get the same blank display. Does anybody have anything to suggest?
[09:59] <PossibleInstallb> Hi all, sorry to barge in. I may have a bug in the install medium and wanted to check this before reporting it
[10:00] <PossibleInstallb> The grub-install fails because a directory /boot/grub/i386 is missing from the installation medium, on the 64-bit version.
[10:00] <PossibleInstallb> can anyone confirm or deny?
[10:02] <MoonUnit`> i haven't had that problem
[10:09] <PossibleInstallb> it is the 64 bit version
[10:09] <PossibleInstallb> and it installs on a non-efi system
[10:09] <PossibleInstallb> basically when I boot from the installer-usb, the directory /boot/grub does not contain a dir 'i386' (or any other subdirs).
[10:10] <PossibleInstallb> I found the subdir somewhere on the drive, copied it to /boot/grub and then I got another error: Cannot find cannonical name for /cow .
[10:11] <PossibleInstallb> It is so strange, it seems completely untested while this step is completely essential for any installation. Weird.
[10:11] <MoonUnit`> do you have multiple drives?
[10:12] <PossibleInstallb> one drive, trying to install to /sda
[10:13] <PossibleInstallb> ok, it has a windows partition but the error stems from a non-existing directory
[10:13] <PossibleInstallb> that is what I find when I run 'grub-install' manually: '/boot/grub/i386' directory not found
[10:16] <PossibleInstallb> I am going to try the ubuntu-64 bit version in a couple of minutes, see if it has the same bug
[10:16] <PossibleInstallb> perhaps it is because I install 64-bit on a pre-EFI system? I don't know
[10:17] <MoonUnit`> non efi would be easier to install on i would think, mine install is x64 and bios.
[10:19] <PossibleInstallb> I have the same then, 64 and bois
[10:19] <PossibleInstallb> bios
[10:31] <PossibleInstallb> He! Installation just succeeded!
[10:31] <PossibleInstallb> I was installing it with a btrfs root-partition. This time I had the same but added a small ext4 /boot partition
[10:32] <PossibleInstallb> I am going to reboot, bye!
[10:32] <PossibleInstallb> so it may have been trying to install a btrfs-system.
[10:37] <murthy> need an onscreen keyboard
[10:56] <BluesKaj> Hey folks
[10:56] <MoonUnit`> hi
[11:00] <naftilos76> Hi i am trying Kubuntu 15.04 live dvd 64bit but, as lots of people have encountered, i get a blank display after some time. It is obviously a graphics card issue. My Graphics card is a GeForce 9600 GT which is old i know. I tried selecting nomodeset and no acpi modes but i get the same blank display. I tried adding in the options before 'quite splash' one of the following: video=vga16fb:off , vga16fb.modeset=0 , nouveau.modeset=0 , nvidia.modeset=0 ,
[11:00] <naftilos76> nouveau.blacklist=1 and nomodeset after 'quite splash'. Nothing worked. Does anybody have anything to suggest?
[11:02] <BluesKaj> naftilos76, yes, install nvidia-340 atht the TTY/VT
[11:03] <BluesKaj> atht=at
[11:04] <naftilos76> BluesKaj: I am trying to install kubuntu now. I have not installed it. The problem appears while booting from the live dvd.
[11:05] <BluesKaj> naftilos76, which Kubuntu version do you have instlled on the HDD , if any ?
[11:06] <Mike_S> hi @all
[11:06] <MoonUnit`> does adding vesa from grub edit still work these days?
[11:06] <naftilos76> I am currently using Debian 7 (kubuntu)
[11:06] <MoonUnit`> i had to do that when i had nvidia cards
[11:06] <naftilos76> and kubuntu 14.04 in my laptop
[11:07] <naftilos76> both installed fine with no blank screens
[11:07] <naftilos76> and both have nvidia Graphics cards
[11:08] <BluesKaj> naftilos76, did you check md5sum of the dvd image?, I have to ask
[11:09] <Mike_S> anyone here also having probs upgrading to 15.04 from 14.10? on my laptop the online-upgrade stopped at 92%. nothing more to do than reboot what ended in blinking leds (kernel panic?). on my workstation it stays at 64% and there happens nothing anymore?!
[11:09] <murthy> BluesKaj: need an onscreen keyboard
[11:10] <naftilos76> No i did not. I seriously doubt that is the culprit. We are talking about an issue that has been around in the recent releases of 14.10 & 15.04 all tried out in both my desktop
[11:12] <BluesKaj> naftilos76, this may be a radical suggestion , but have you considered switching your graphics in the bios back to the onboard temporarily just for installation purposes?
[11:13] <murthy> BluesKaj: wont work
[11:13] <naftilos76> There is no on-board Graphics card. Good thought but not applicable in my case. :-)
[11:13] <murthy> BluesKaj: the card needs to be removed
[11:14] <naftilos76> I just don't get. Is it so difficult to support Graphics cards 5-years old?
[11:14] <murthy> BluesKaj: can you suggest me an onscreen keyboard?
[11:14] <murthy> naftilos76: you should really ask this question to the nvidia people
[11:15] <naftilos76> probably! :-)
[11:15] <BluesKaj> naftilos76, you must havew an onboard gpu that resides on the motherboard ...it worked for me on an old pc with a nvidia 7600GT card with 12.04 install.
[11:17] <BluesKaj> murthy, some BIOSs have a switchable graphics option
[11:17] <chencho9000> hi there
[11:17] <chencho9000> Im having trouble with the display driver
[11:17] <naftilos76> BluesKaj: I was sure my MB did not have an onboard graphics card. I just confirm this is the case.
[11:18] <BluesKaj> on older machines , murthy
[11:18] <naftilos76> ... I just confirmed this is the case.
[11:18] <chencho9000> driver admin dont show installed driver
[11:18] <BluesKaj> naftilos76, not a card but a gpu , how else would it display to a monitor
[11:19] <murthy> BluesKaj: I do have that option, but I think we have to switch the vga cable to the onboad gpu output atleast
[11:20] <BluesKaj> murthy, well yeah, that's kind of understood is it not?
[11:20] <naftilos76> BluesKaj: I am aware how an onboard GPU would look. It would need a VGA output or another port right? Well, there are no ports for a display except for the nvidia card i have installed!
[11:21] <murthy> BluesKaj: i had this night mare of swithching graphics driver, when I didn't know how to handle the nvidia binary driver issues
[11:21] <BluesKaj> you must have a vga display on the mobo
[11:23] <chencho9000> how can I know the driver installed
[11:23] <BluesKaj> ok nm , I'm not going any further with this , I wanted to make an alternate suggestion that's all , but I guess it's too difficult for you naftilos76
[11:24] <naftilos76> BluesKaj: Seriously? I do not have an onboard GPU on my MB. I would have known if i had one.
[11:24] <naftilos76> What is so difficult for me? To accept that i have a GPU on my MB when i don't?
[11:24] <BluesKaj> naftilos76, when you received the the computer did it come with the nvidia pci 9600?
[11:25] <naftilos76> yep
[11:25] <naftilos76> it was assembled and sent to me
[11:25] <BluesKaj> it's a pci card?
[11:26] <naftilos76> i mean the tower box containing the mb, graphics cards , dvd-writer, power supply etc
[11:26] <naftilos76> What is so strange about it?
[11:27] <naftilos76> Isn't that the way shops sell products?
[11:27] <BluesKaj> or is IT the onboard gpu ?
[11:27] <BluesKaj> most shops don't sell computers with added PCI graphics cards
[11:28] <Zerkalerka> Just installed kubuntu for the first time, very beautiful.. only distro that works 840m nvidia out of box
[11:28] <naftilos76> BluesKaj: Do not inisist on the onboard GPU crap. The graphics card is a Nvidia Geforce GT9600 installed in a pcix port on a normal MB sold by normal shops bought by normal people!!!
[11:29] <chencho9000> Zerkalerka: did you have probles identifying graphic driver?
[11:29] <chencho9000> probles=problems
[11:29] <fatnic> Anyone managed to get Dropbox working with Ubuntu 15.04?
[11:30] <MoonUnit`> dropbox working fine for me.
[11:30] <MoonUnit`> have to install a tray app to see the dropbox tray icon though.
[11:31] <naftilos76> BluesKaj: thanks for your time man
[11:31] <naftilos76> i have to go
[11:31] <Zerkalerka> chencho9000: No, when I select it to install recommeneded nvidia driver it just works. Ubuntu, Lubuntu, and Arch all give me black screen when I have 2nd monitor plugged in... kubuntu.. just works :)
[11:32] <BluesKaj> ok naftilos76, it's very unusual to have no onboard gpu, that's all .
[11:32] <naftilos76> :-)
[11:32] <MoonUnit`> my i7 doesn't have onboard gpu
[11:34] <BluesKaj> MoonUnit`, we're dealing with an older pc here, which to my knowledge all cane with gpus...I had 5 pcs over the yrs they all had them
[11:37] <yossarianuk> hi - I am running Plasma 5.2 (kubuntu 15.04) - I have nvidia, I have 2 issues
[11:37] <yossarianuk> Issue 1: After installing Nvidia driver DPI is set to 102X102 - it makes the title bars on the windows look far too big and chunky (child like )- I need to set the DPI to 96x96 and the kwin windows looks normal again
[11:37] <yossarianuk> It is best to force the fonts using system-settings -> fonts or is it best to define the DPI in the device section of xorg.conf ?
[11:39] <yossarianuk> Issue 2 : screen tearing / jittery graphics -> I have heard enable triple buffering can help - how can I tell if its enabled or not?
[11:39] <PhilippeP> yossarianuk: I did it in Fonts and it works like a charm
[11:40] <yossarianuk> PhilippeP: cheers - it was more which way would be more effective - i.e if I add to xorg.conf is that done in a hardware way (as opposed to KDE / Software way?)
[11:41] <BluesKaj> yossarianuk, suggest you check systemsettings>display&monitor>display config>DVI, there should be a resolution slider
[11:41] <BluesKaj> then the system fonts
[11:41] <yossarianuk> BluesKaj: cheers
[11:42] <yossarianuk> enabling it in fonts or xorg.conf does the trick,my question really was what is the better way...
[11:42] <yossarianuk> regarding triple buffering though - how to tell if enabled?
[11:43] <yossarianuk> I know I can add to xorg.conf or use a env variable 'export KWIN_TRIPLE_BUFFER=1'
[11:43] <BluesKaj> well, I never had the reolution problem so it's hard to know which method should be used first
[11:44] <yossarianuk> BluesKaj: its not resolution issues - that is fine
[11:44] <Zerkalerka> where is locale located again? /etc/??/locale
[11:44] <yossarianuk> its jerky/ screen tearing.
[11:45] <MoonUnit`> yossarianuk: tried tinkering with tearing preventions settings in compositor?
[11:46] <yossarianuk> MoonUnit: no... - will do.
[11:59] <linuxguy> Hi all, Ive just done a fresh installation of kubuntu 15.04, but after a reboot, I just get a black screen and two coloured lines on it, Im using a nvidia card.any helps would be great
[12:04] <chindy> how do i stop kubuntus xServer?
[12:06] <BluesKaj> chindy, why?
[12:06] <chindy> so that i can install nvidia driver
[12:07] <BluesKaj> linuxguy, do you get to the login screen?
[12:08] <BluesKaj> chindy, no need to stop the xserver to install the driver , just use the driver manager in system settings
[12:10] <PhilippeP> Oh there's no more pastebin widget in plasma5 ?
[12:11] <BluesKaj> chindy, or if you know which driver applies to your card ., most likely the nvidia-340, just use the terminal
[12:11] <BluesKaj> PhilippeP, no
[12:11] <BluesKaj> not available ...yet
[12:12] <chindy> BluesKaj, yes i am installing with terminal but it tells me that xserver is running and i need to exit it
[12:12] <PhilippeP> ok will wait then , it is very usefull .. sad
[12:12] <BluesKaj> the transition to kde5 is goinf=g to take while so there are some widget casualties
[12:13] <PhilippeP> BluesKaj: of course!
[12:13] <BluesKaj> chindy, that's strange , then drop to the TTY/VT and install it there if possible , ctl+alt+F1-F
[12:14] <BluesKaj> err F1-F6 that is
[12:14] <MoonUnit`> you can install pastebinit and pipe from konsole.
[12:15] <BluesKaj> yeah MoonUnit` that's a good alternative
[12:15] <linuxguy> BluesKaj, Sorry no login screen.just black screen
[12:15] <chindy> BluesKaj, yea thats what i am doing but it still says xserver is running
[12:18] <BluesKaj> chindy, which DM are you using , sudo service nameofdm stop
[12:18] <chindy> well i needed to run sudo service sddm stop
[12:19] <MoonUnit`> sudo systemctl stop sddm.service
[12:22] <murthy> I need an onscreen keyboard
[12:23] <MoonUnit`> think you'll have to switch to lightdm for that murthy
[12:24] <murthy> MoonUnit`: lightdm? why?
[12:24] <MoonUnit`> last time someone asked about it all i could find was about lightdm greeter
[12:25] <BluesKaj> murthy, in lok
[12:25] <BluesKaj> install
[12:26] <BluesKaj> nope sorry , wrong app , murthy unless you speak hindi
[12:26] <murthy> BluesKaj: nope
[12:26] <BluesKaj> ok :)
[12:26] <murthy> BluesKaj: I am tamil and dont know hindi
[12:27] <murthy> BluesKaj: Will the onscreen widget be ported in the future?
[12:27] <murthy> or is it droped ?
[12:27] <BluesKaj> murthy, Tamil is included in lok
[12:28] <murthy> BluesKaj: oh, ok. but I need one for english
[12:28] <murthy> BluesKaj: I also searched for an app something called kvkbd, I couldn't find it
[12:30] <BluesKaj> yeah ,english can ber used with qwerty but it has to be keymapped
[12:30] <andybrine> Good afternon everyone
[12:31] <andybrine> Just upgraded to 15.04 and its working flawlessly!!
[12:31] <andybrine> Great Job!
[12:31] <andybrine> One question though, im using gnome shell and wonder if it is possible to install gnome shell 3.16?
[12:32] <BluesKaj> andybrine, ask in ubuntu this is kubuntu support
[12:33] <andybrine> ahh ok, thanks. I will check in there
[12:34] <Nicole> Hello I would like to update to 15.04 but can't seem to get thunderbird and firetray to work, is this a plasma 5 kubuntu or firetray issue please?
[12:35] <kStarLord> Hi. Currently trying to boot the live CD. After a while, screen goes black. Video card is Nvidia (this is an older laptop). Could this be related to the Nidia woes people are having left and right? (this is the live environment, mind you)
[12:35] <MoonUnit`> Nicole: might be this http://blog.martin-graesslin.com/blog/2014/06/where-are-my-systray-icons/
[12:38] <Nicole> Thanks Moonunit I do hope it is fixed soon, I will upgrade then, it all looks fab apart from just that one little thing for me lol
[12:43] <murthy> BluesKaj: iok keyboard works for me, english is also available. Thank you
[12:43] <pibarnas> hi folks. where do I report a bug? In fresh install, kubuntu doesn't install the correct keyboard from my language, even using setxkbmap...
[12:43] <BluesKaj> Nicole, plasma 5/KF5 are still in development so there are some missing widgets
[12:44] <BluesKaj> murthy, great, glad to hear that :)
[12:55] <amundsen> hi
[12:56] <amundsen> does anybody know if future plasma releases will be upgraded from official repos or we'll have to update them through ppa ?
[13:01] <BluesKaj> amundsen, now that 15.04 is officially released and your using that OS the answer is no, if you're still on 14.10 with plsama then the anwer is most likely yes.
[13:01] <BluesKaj> plasma 5 that is
[13:03] <amundsen> i'm using 15.04
[13:04] <BluesKaj> amundsen, no more ppas here until I'm told I need them
[13:05] <BluesKaj> 15.04 as well
[13:05] <amundsen> BluesKaj, so for those using 15.04, plasma 5.3 and 5.4 will upgrade from official ubuntu repos?
[13:05] <BluesKaj> the normal procedure is to put the upgrades in the backports
[13:06] <amundsen> ok
[13:06] <amundsen> thanks
[13:06] <BluesKaj> np
[13:07] <BluesKaj> amundsen, similar to KDE upgrades
[13:10] <amundsen> BluesKaj, the "backport" option isn't activated by default in lts versions, is it?
[13:13] <BluesKaj> amundsen, check your /etc/apt/sources.list , to see if said deb backports are commented with a #
[13:13] <devurandom> Hello!
[13:14] <devurandom> Will the Kubuntu PPA für 14.04/Trusty still be updated? I'd love to see KDEPIM 4.14.7 on my system, since there were quite some bugfixes…
[13:17] <BluesKaj> devurandom, which ppa ? most LTS use the backports for officially supported upgrades since ppas aren't supported
[13:18] <BluesKaj> !ppa | devurandom
[13:19] <BluesKaj> backports are usually for DE upgrades that is, otherwise the standard repos are used
[13:47] <oldawg> Hello, I am unable to switch off the screen lock. In 14.10 it was OK, 15.04 has no option for that. What I am missing?
[13:50] <mparillo> Nobody seems to file bugs against PPAs, do they? I added kubuntu-ppa/next-staging to test Plasma 5.2.95, and it works great on my HW, but not on VMWare. https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=346467 kicked it back to Kubuntu, but do anybody know where the Kubuntu bug should be fined?
[13:55] <Guest1942> Hi guys. I just installed Kubuntu 15.04 and want to disable KOrganiser and KDE Connect (why is it even installed by default?). Cheers.
[13:58] <Mamarok> Guest1942: why did you isntall KDE-PIM, then? these are part of the package, if you don't want it, don't use it
[13:59] <hyper_ch> how can I remove the entries in Dolphon for Recently Saved and Search For?
[13:59] <hyper_ch> in the places thingy
[14:00] <Guest1942> Mamarok, it's default installation. Did not change anything while installing.
[14:00] <saumyabratadutt> hey can you help me ????
[14:01] <mparillo> !ask
[14:07] <personal> Hi all . I have a 16gb usb drive . It is now 14gb . Whats happing , why it keep getting smaer ever time i format it with ubuntu ?
[14:08] <lordievader> personal: What does parted say?
[14:10] <MoonUnit`> Guest1942: sudo apt-get remove korganizer kdeconnect kdeconnect-plasma
KDE partition manger says 14.44
[14:10] <lordievader> personal: Could you pastebin the output of 'sudo parted /dev/sdX print' where X is the letter of the usb stick.
[14:14] <ejay> In latest kubuntu... is it me or sys tray is absolutely non functional? For example - can't add konversation to tray. Can't add firefox and thunderbird to tray. Steam is attacking me with some error about tray. What's goin on?
It just gives me a lot of options . I typed in check , it gives : WARNING: you are attempting to use parted to operate on (check) a file system.
[14:16] <lordievader> Are you giving it a filesystem? It should be something like /dev/sda (without any numbers at the end).
[14:17] <MoonUnit`> ejay: http://blog.martin-graesslin.com/blog/2014/06/where-are-my-systray-icons/
[14:17] <MoonUnit`> ejay: konversation and steam should appear in the kde tray though, weird.
[14:20] <ejay> MoonUnit, thanks for this link. I just got some flashbacks from early KDE 4 days. Sys tray is broken in my case, what is super wierd bc it's a frash installation. Also KIOexec dont like me as well bc clikcing on this link is givin' me an error. Awesome.
just does the same thing
[14:21] <lordievader> personal: That is strange... How have you created your usb stick?
[14:23] <ejay> And when moving files from HDD to external flash drive plasma is eating 50% of my cpu (i3 intel).
[14:23] <ejay> And I was so hyped about new KDE. o_0
[14:25] <personal> Through KDE partition manger . I formated it to ntfs. But all my other usb's i used for live disks are bricked. So i'm down ot this one an cost me a fortune. Deleting files off it and then formattting , i opened up startup-disk creature and was like WTF !! what happened the my 16bg drive, it's now 14gb.
[14:26] <lordievader> Did you create a raw filesystem on it? Without a partition table?
I deleted the partition and created a new partition table. What's a raw file system ?
[14:28] <lordievader> Filesystem on a disk without a partition table.
Would that be some thing differnt to , fat, ntfs, ext, brfs
[14:29] <MoonUnit`> ext3/4 will reserve 5% of the disk, you can reclaim it if you need to.
[14:30] <lordievader> No, fat, ntfs, ext, btrfs are all filesystems.
How do i do that
How do i make it raw ?
[14:31] <lordievader> You don't want that. Make a partition table.
[14:33] <MoonUnit`> the drive will have to be unmounted sudo tune2fs -m 0 /dev/sda1 <-change sda1 to your partition
If i do that i'll loose more of the disk
[14:33] <lordievader> For a partition table? Not really. The first X sectors are ment for that anyways.
[14:37] <personal> Where do i past a screen shot ?
[14:37] <lordievader> !screenshot
[14:38] <poee> hi, where can I find the md5 hashes of kubuntu ISO's?
[14:39] <personal> http://imgur.com/a/8mJ78#0
[14:40] <MoonUnit`> poee: you should be able to find them on the site you downloaded the iso from.
[14:40] <lordievader> personal: 14.44 Gib is about right => 15.5Gb
[14:40] <poee> MoonUnit`, googled the hash, and found it to be accurate. thanx
[14:44] <ejay> can I install kubuntu 15.04 with KDE4?
The drive was over 16gb, when i brought it.
[14:47] <lordievader> personal: Does parted give you usefull output now you've created a new partition table?
partd is opened , what option do i pick and by the looks of it point it at
[14:56] <lordievader> No need to open parted, just use the command I gave earlier.
[14:57] <personal> (parted) check /dev/sdd1 WARNING: you are attempting to use parted to operate on (check) a file system. parted's file system manipulation code is not as robust as what you'll find in dedicated, file-system-specific packages like e2fsprogs. We recommend you use parted only to manipulate partition tables, whenever possible. Support for performing most operations on most types of file systems will be removed in an upcoming release.
That is the command i put in and it opened .
[14:57] <lordievader> Why?
[14:59] <lordievader> Have I told you to do so?
What next lord Vader. Show me the force.
[15:02] <lordievader> Are you reading what I type?
[15:04] <personal> My guess is its got to do with the usb starge devices firmware and block assigment, that it has some kind of operation for speed perposes, it delays wipping them and locks those blocks.
[15:04] <lordievader> So, you are not. Okay.
[15:06] <pkulas> Is possible to minimalize to tray Konversation?
[15:06] <personal> Linux doesn't know this, and , hence the device ends up becomming complelty locked and effectly bricked.
No , i dont want this most expensive usb bricked liked all the others
[15:10] <personal> Is that plausable theory ?
Can gparted wipe the entire usb clear, except the usb software. I thin its supposed to be in the first sectors, but from experince , i'v found them to be in the lsat sectors of the usbs stick i have purchased. I buy a differnt brand everytime.
[15:14] <ejay> pkulas, it's not bc sys tray is broken. have fun.
are you guys talking about KDE5 ?
[15:15] <ejay> yup
[15:15] <pkulas> ejay : I found system tray at settings, gonna test it now, if it minimalize or close irc
[15:18] <ejay> i did found those options as well. problem is - it's not working.
[15:18] <pkulas> ok works now, thought no icon , just in status & notifications, but it's better anyway.
[15:19] <personal> sudo dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/X . Blocksa device . It may be becuase they need to be one's , not zero's .
[15:20] <ejay> pkulas, good for you. I want to get rid of it from my bottom panel and keep it in systray only but it's too much I guess.
[15:22] <personal> But the firmware is going to be wipped anyway and brick it.
[15:22] <pkulas> ejay : Did you try Settings Konversation - Behavior - General - Enable System Tray?
[15:23] <ejay> pkulas, yes I did. My systray is just broken. Steam is not working with systray. Dropbox is not working with systray. Nothing. Only this couple basic icons are there and that's it. This. Is. Not. Cool. I'm super salty right now.
[15:24] <pkulas> wow, crazy. Wonder how that happend, for me steam and other works fine
[15:25] <ejay> Well, it's not a big deal. I just need console and bunch of dev tools but after kde4 I got this feeling of downgrade not upgrade. And I don't like it.
[15:26] <MoonUnit`> steam tray is working for me in plasma5
[15:27] <MoonUnit`> dropbox i had to use a tray app to see it
I wasn't being smart arse. I just wonderig where your going with your theory. What was your next instruction ?
[15:28] <lordievader> personal: I was trying to get information. But clearly you do not want to listen and try random stuff.
I want to try everthing and anything. Please continue .
[15:29] <lordievader> No. I've lost interest.
Obi one is looking for you. Lol . Thanks anyway :-) .
[15:31] <ejay> MoonUnit, what app? I mean dropbox tray.
[15:32] <MoonUnit`> ejay: martins blog suggests wmsystemtray but i prefer trayer http://blog.martin-graesslin.com/blog/2014/06/where-are-my-systray-icons/
[15:38] <ejay> MoonUnit, it's sad that I need to install some 3rd party apps to make such basic thing like systray make usable. Thanks, will check this out.
[15:42] <MoonUnit`> ejay: its the problem with living off another distro, ubuntu need to patch some of their packages to make kde work properly.
This is stressful for me, just trying to lighten things up. Thank you for taking the time to help out.
[15:45] <ejay> Couple of questions: how to enable numlock on the start of the session? How to get rid of Konversation from bottom panel to have it only in systray? How to change color of bottom panel?
[15:47] <pkulas> I changed color of bottom panel and whole interface but forgot how :D
[15:47] <pkulas> Default is very bad
[15:47] <MoonUnit`> numlock setting in settings/input devices/keyboard
[15:48] <ejay> pkulas, default is absolutely terrible.
[15:48] <pkulas> System Settings - Desktop Theme, there to change color
[15:49] <ejay> pkulas, I know where to change color. Problem is when I'm changing colors nothing happens.
[15:50] <pkulas> weird :(
[15:50] <pkulas> Is it fresh install or upgrade from 14.10?
[15:50] <pkulas> Yours
[15:51] <ejay> pkulas, fresh. I tried to install it from 14.10 but Muon crashed and killed my whole system.
[15:51] <ejay> free software FTW! ;)
[15:52] <pkulas> Maybe some additional package broken everything for you
[15:54] <ejay> pkulas, or, let's be honest, KDE5 is not ready.
[15:54] <pkulas> For me everything works fine yet
[15:54] <pkulas> even mobile modem
[15:55] <pkulas> Only 1 thing is broken on every *buntu is brightness , every time reset to 100% on restart
[15:59] <MoonUnit`> added a xrandr command to run at startup to bring the brightness down on mine.
[16:00] <alvin> pkulas: It does? Can you check your font preview window? kcmshell5 fontinst
[16:06] <ejay> jesus, this new kde is just pure mess. fuck this.
[16:06] <pkulas> alvin : preview works
[16:06] <pkulas> alvin : but no idea about other things in there
[16:07] <pkulas> unistalling a font seems to be a long process or broken
[16:07] <mparillo> ejay: Bugs or regressions?
[16:08] <pkulas> mparillo : stuck on updating font configuration, but maybe it's doing something that long
[16:09] <ejay> mparillo, regression. this new plasma is raw. it's working but there is nothing to work.
[16:09] <reborn> What's system requirement for kubuntu 15.04?
[16:10] <ejay> and this sytray is just shameless bitch slap for users of KDE4
[16:15] <ejay> and such little thing like changing color of panel is too much for new and shiny plasma 5
[16:17] <Riddell> ejay: no swearing please
[16:37] <mparillo> I believe panel color is set by the overall desktop theme in System Settings. I am pretty sure I remember it changing when I went from Breeze to Breeze Dark with Plasma 5.2. With Plasma 5.2.95, I think something might be missing for Breeze Dark on my install, but that could be my fault.
[16:43] <ejay> ok, do anyone have any ideas how to change theme to breeze dark. I'm not asking for where I can find theme options but how to make breeze dark change color so my theme will be dark.
[16:44] <ejay> and how can I get rid of KDE connect from systray
[16:44] <pkulas> ejay : Did you try install and set any other theme
[16:45] <ejay> pkulas, nope
[16:46] <ejay> I just want dark panel. dark ffs!
[16:47] <alvin> ejay: Right click the system tray -> System Tray Options -> System Tray Settings -> untick KDE connect
[16:48] <ejay> alvin, god bless you!
[16:49] <ejay> pkulas, where can I find another themes?
[16:50] <Lyze> Hello :) I have a problem with my tablet. It gets recognized and I can set the properties of it via xsetwacom. However inside the input devices settings gui (kubuntu 15.04) there is no entry for tablet. In the official Ubuntu Wiki they said that I need to install "kde-config-tablet" which is already installed
[16:50] <evgeniy> Hi. DO you find error in alkonady?
[16:50] <pkulas> kcmshell5 desktoptheme and there is Get New Themes button. should work, if not should print any errors for you
[16:51] <pkulas> also btw.
[16:51] <pkulas> if you can't set breeze-dark by Theme Panel
[16:51] <pkulas> you can do it manually
[16:52] <pkulas> ~/.config/plasmarc and [Theme] name=breeze-dark
[16:54] <pkulas> It should auto change on file change.
[16:54] <ejay> pkulas, it is breeze-dark already in this file. breeze dark is working everywhere but on bottom panel.
[16:54] <pkulas> ejay : maybe your breeze-dark is somehow modified by Theme Panel
[16:54] <ejay> pkulas, and problem is - I just want this panel to be dark. I dont care about rest. This panel need to be dark.
[16:55] <pkulas> ejay : Try install new theme, there are many darks themes
[16:55] <ejay> pkulas, it's not modified bc when I'm trying to modify it manually it just goes back to default settings.
[16:55] <alvin> How can I remove the battery notification from SDDM? 0% battery sounds stupid when you have a desktop. Not everyone uses a notebook.
[16:55] <ejay> themes from kde-look does not work with plasma 5
[16:56] <pkulas> ejay : doesn't it show only the 1 that works with plasma?
[16:56] <pkulas> I installed like 3 and works all
[16:57] <ejay> pkulas, give me names
[16:57] <pkulas> Velours3
[16:58] <pkulas> just type Velours
[17:00] <ejay> pkulas, ok, it works but I dont want this theme. I want this black panel :D
[17:00] <ejay> pkulas, jesus, basic stuff and plasma 5 is like hurr durr. I'm terrified what will gonna happen when I'm gonna start to working on this.
[17:05] <rohan> can someone help me, please? after upgrade to 15.04 from 14.10, my computer just gets stuck at the login screen: the mouse works, but the keyboard does not (although alt-sysrq works)
[17:05] <rohan> I have tried changing the display manager from SDDM to lightdm and also tried booting in upstart
[17:05] <rohan> but neither helped
[17:08] <ejay> rohan, is your kb working in console?
[17:08] <rohan> ejay: i can't even switch to console using Ctrl-Alt-F1 (to F7)
[17:09] <rohan> ejay: but my keyboard is working fine in a livecd and in recovery mode boot
[17:09] <Zerkalerka> Anyone know the default shortcut to open konsole or terminal?
[17:10] <ejay> rohan, but I mean text mode, when starting your system you can choose (you need to hit some button - f8 maybe?) to start in recovery mode, normal mode and such.
[17:11] <rohan> ejay: yes, in text mode, it's work
[17:11] <rohan> ing
[17:12] <ejay> rohan, and it's just normal, generic kb?
[17:12] <rohan> ejay: a laptop keyboard, but otherwise just normal
[17:12] <rohan> works everywhere else
[17:30] <ejay> rohan, sry but have no clue
[17:46] <metot> Hi, how do I know the list of available pack after apt-get update?
[17:46] <metot> in which file are they saved ?
[17:49] <alvin> metot: I dont't know, but check the output of 10.0.0.21
[17:49] <alvin> ehm...
[17:49] <alvin> wrong paste. There's something with the clipboard
[17:49] <alvin> sudo apt list --upgradable
[17:50] <metot> i ll check yhx
[17:50] <alvin> (You don't need the sudo here)
[17:51] <metot> ok
[18:01] <Mneuro> in Kubuntu 15.04 where is the setting to disable effects in fullscreen applications?
[18:03] <alvin> Mneuro: System Settings -> Display and monitor -> Compositor
[18:03] <Mneuro> alvin, thanks so much!
[18:03] <Mneuro> so far I'm really liking plasma 5. It is probably my favorite of hte "modern" desktops
[18:03] <alvin> A few sharp corners, but it's growing on me
[18:04] <reborn> is plasma 5 much improve in 15.04?
[18:04] <alvin> Compared to 14.10? Not really.
[18:06] <reborn> i see.
[18:59] <pkulas> Konversation setting are not user friendly for laptop users with 1366x768 resolution
[18:59] <pkulas> need to move window with alt to see buttons to apply
[19:00] <alvin> I press Leave -> Restart.. and nothing happens
[19:01] <alvin> Let's try typing 'reboot'
[19:01] <pkulas> as sudo
[19:02] <pkulas> what is linux command to reboot or shutdown without sudo ?
[19:02] <Zerkalerka> shutdown -r now
[19:08] <pkulas> ok it works :)
[19:08] <pkulas> had to restart 2 more times, first keyboard didnt respond, second time plasma crashed :D
[19:09] <pkulas> btw. is any1 else missing network icon when connection is on?
[19:10] <pkulas> It same problem I had on mate beta 2, when mobile connection is on icon goes invisible
[19:14] <Kottizen> Hi everyone! I installed fglrx and now everything gets black when I try to sign in. What should I do?
[19:15] <Kottizen> The login window still appears, though, so I am not entirely out of graphics.
[19:19] <pkulas> Kottizen : How did you install it? By additional drivers?
[19:20] <pkulas> You should propably remove fglrx and reinstall open drivers
[19:21] <Kottizen> pkulas: Via the terminal, but I figured out a way of getting everything to work. I removed .Xauthority.
[19:21] <pkulas> Kottizen : so fglrx works now for you?
[19:22] <Kottizen> pkulas: It does! First I installed the drivers directly from AMD's website, but those didn't work at all. So I though I could remove them. Didn't work either. Then I installed the version in the repositories, and it worked after having removed .Xauthority.
[19:23] <pkulas> nice
[19:23] <Kottizen> Do you, by any chance, know if the default wallpaper is available i a 4k version?
[19:24] <pkulas> Kottizen : I don't
[19:26] <Kottizen> pkulas: Ok. Do you, by any another chance, know why the bookmarks I add in Dolphin disappear when I restart Dolphin?
[19:27] <pkulas> Kottizen : I installed Kubuntu 15.04 I don't have much expierience with KDE apps
[19:27] <Kottizen> pkulas: Temporary solution: Add the bookmarks in another view, such as the Open File view.
[19:28] <Kottizen> Ah, I see...
[19:29] <pkulas> Kottizen : but yeah same issue here, when add folder to places it's gone after restart
[19:30] <pkulas> So it's probably a bug
[19:30] <Kottizen> Likely. I'll stick to adding them via the Open File dialog.
[19:32] <luc4> Anyone who got “Welcome to emergency mode” after updating to 15.04?
[19:32] <pkulas> When you right click a folder and use Add to Places it does nothing either
[19:34] <Zerkalerka> Everytime I restart, my start menu keeps getting bigger and bigger and it now takes up the entire screen vertically and aabout 40% width
[19:35] <Zerkalerka> How can I make it smaller again lol
[19:37] <Zerkalerka> http://gyazo.com/2b3bf50d28544bc02c06abf4894f9ce7 thats how big it is no wlol
[19:38] <Zerkalerka> hmm speak of the devil.. as soon as I paste that screenshot it now automatically reduced its size by about 20%
[19:39] <Zerkalerka> interesting.. :P
[19:39] <pkulas> my looks similar to screenshot
[19:39] <Zerkalerka> http://gyazo.com/0d4c93cf93dd3ea3f94cb24a5a893935
[19:40] <Zerkalerka> thats mine now.. after I literally pressed nothing but took that screenshot lol
[19:40] <pkulas> but I have 1366x768
[19:40] <Zerkalerka> ah yeah I am 1920x1280
[19:41] <MoonUnit`> Zerkalerka: tried the alternative menu?
[19:42] <Zerkalerka> MoonUnit`: No I haven't where is that located.
[19:42] <pkulas> Press Menu by Right click and Alternatives
[19:43] <Zerkalerka> ah wow thats much better TY
[19:57] <ejay> Can I reinstall kde themes? I started to mess with breeze dark and it overwrittes default theme.
[20:09] <assurbanipal> hi guys, is there a reason why i don't get gnome applications icon in the system tray with kubuntu 15.04? how can I fix it?
[20:12] <MoonUnit`> http://blog.martin-graesslin.com/blog/2014/06/where-are-my-systray-icons/
[20:21] <assurbanipal> MoonUnit`: i installed the libappindicator but still...
[20:22] <MoonUnit`> yeah, you need to install a tray tool, wmsystemtray or trayer.
[20:22] <assurbanipal> ok I just did, I guess I hacve to login again?
[20:28] <assurbanipal> MoonUnit`: i installed and tried bot trayer and wmsystemtray but the first overlaps with the kde taskbar and the second starts a new window... is there a way tos somehow nicely integrate them to kubuntu?
[20:30] <MoonUnit`> afraid not, best you can do is move them somewhere less annoying.
[20:31] <assurbanipal> MoonUnit`: really? there is no way to make gtk system tray work with kde5??? this is a huge let-down...
[20:31] <MoonUnit`> yup
[20:31] <assurbanipal> MoonUnit`: that is a slap in the face!
[20:33] <carlos_> hola
[20:34] <pkulas> what version of plasma is inside 15.10?
[20:38] <pkulas> 15.04 * sry
[20:39] <chrissg_> Hey folks! My Plasma 5 (kubuntu) is currently half-english, half-german. I want it all to be plain english :) Where did I screw up? I tripple checked Regional Settings -> Translations, to no avail. Any help/pointed would be awesome
[20:41] <hyper_ch> chrissg_: having same issues here
[20:42] <chrissg_> Phhew, I thought I was too dumb here :) Glad to see others have this kind of problem (sorry) ;)
[20:43] <hyper_ch> (among other stuff though)
[20:43] <chrissg_> Indeed. I have an "todo/issues" file with all current plasma issues, fighting proudly :)
[20:44] <hyper_ch> most annoying for me is that konsole freezes upon window resize
[20:44] <hyper_ch> and plasma desktop on main screen can't be set to folder view
[20:44] <hyper_ch> and the spacing of mail folders in Kontact despite having oxygen theme and style
[20:54] <pkulas> I wonder if system stand up after upgrade plasma to 4.2.95 from 4.2.2
[21:00] <soee> pkulas: what ?
[21:00] <soee> there is not plasma 4.2.95
[21:02] <pkulas> 5.2.95 sorry, I'm a bit sleepy
[21:04] <soee> pkulas: dont worry the upgrade is smooth
[21:23] <zefyr> Just Installed Kubuntu. Have logged in several times. System always freezes a couple minutes after login. At that point, the mouse still moves fine, but you can not Ctrl+Esc or Alt+Tab. My googling hasn't come up with anything. some close ones, but not the same. Any ideas here?
[21:23] <zefyr> 15.04
[21:25] <soee> zefyr: is it fresh installation ?
[21:30] <pkulas> After install plasma 5.2.95 system is totally broken :D
[21:30] <pkulas> seems a need to reinstall Kubuntu
[21:30] <zefyr> well, Ive win10 and ubu14.04 on thier own partitions. Kubuntu is fress on it own partition. Kubuntu installed a grub on /dev/sda
[21:30] <zefyr> fresh^
[21:32] <zefyr> it did the same thing even on the live boot usb a couple times will i was installing. secure boot is disabled, there are no keys for any of the other OSes
[21:32] <pkulas> I would probably be able to downgrade plasma but I'm on mobile connection and can't even set up it without working plasma
[22:14] <codebrainz> hi. I just upgraded to 15.04 and it removed my KDE installation. previously I had installed kde-plasma-desktop to get just the basic KDE stuff, but it seems that package isn't available anymore. is there an alternative package to get just the minimal desktop without all the applications?
[22:15] <sfurtaw> I know that kubuntu-desktop will install the whole bonanza, but I'm not sure about minimal
[22:15] <codebrainz> yeah, kubuntu-desktop wants to put 500MB of stuff, most of which I won't use
[22:16] <codebrainz> I actually interrupted installing it half-way through to ask here if there was an alternative that won't clog my little hard drive :)
[22:16] <sfurtaw> they seem to have updated it too
[22:16] <sfurtaw> you may be required to install all of that, but don't quote me
[22:17] <codebrainz> meh, it's no biggie. I don't use KDE much, but when I write applications I like to test it on a lot of DEs
[22:17] <danikvsn> has anyone experienced serious issues with configuring kde after the 15.04 update?
[22:17] <sfurtaw> I have had a few
[22:18] <codebrainz> the weird thing is, when I google for it, I find this: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/vivid/+package/kde-plasma-desktop
[22:22] <codebrainz> hmm, there's a package called plasma-desktop, might that be it?
[22:22] <sfurtaw> probably
[22:22] <sfurtaw> try looking at it's dependencies or something
[22:22] <sfurtaw> just to confirm
[22:22] <codebrainz> yeah, it looks like it
[22:23] <sfurtaw> cool
[22:23] <codebrainz> it's even just installing from package cache, since the upgrade first upgraded those packages then uninstalled them
[22:26] <codebrainz> i think it worked
[22:26] <codebrainz> it looks like windows 8 though, not like what I was using before the upgrade
[22:31] <danikvsn> for me my color scheme and window decoration became screwed up for things like systemsettings and kate
[22:31] <danikvsn> and my font became weird
[22:31] <darthanubis> danikvsn: you upgraded?
[22:31] <danikvsn> worst part is they now refuse to follow systemsettings
[22:32] <Franks> hi
[22:32] <danikvsn> darthanubis: yea from the beta to 15.04
[22:32] <danikvsn> I then did a fresh install
[22:33] <danikvsn> screwed up again after an update
[22:33] <Franks> anyone knows the minimal requirentments to run kubuntu 15?
[22:35] <darthanubis> Franks: http://askubuntu.com/questions/521076/system-requirements-for-installing-kubuntu-14-04
[22:55] <codebrainz_> i just upgraded to 15.04 and I seem to have missed something. when I minimize XChat to the system tray, the icon doesn't show up and I can't get it back. does anyone know which package can bring back my system tray?
[22:56] <codebrainz_> codebrainz can confirm I'm sure :)
[23:29] <darthanubis> look for the xchat systray
[23:30] <darthanubis> but I'd scrape xchat for a better kde based irc client anyway
[23:31] <codebrainz_> I don't use KDE very much, so it's nice to use the same chat client across all the DEs I use
[23:31] <codebrainz_> I found a package called xchat-inidicator, but it doesn't work
[23:31] <darthanubis> I said systray
[23:32] <codebrainz_> it doesn't exist
[23:32] <darthanubis> sure it does
[23:32] <codebrainz_> what is the package name?
[23:32] <darthanubis> I told you
[23:33] <codebrainz_> no, you said "xchat systray" which AFAIK isn't a valid package name
[23:33] <codebrainz_> and xchat-systray doesn't exist here
[23:33] <codebrainz_> (in repos)
[23:34] <codebrainz_> although i did hear references to it in my googlings
[23:34] <darthanubis> https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xchat-systray
[23:34] <darthanubis> Looks like they finally dropped it
[23:34] <codebrainz_> bleh
[23:35] <darthanubis> xchat is old anyway
[23:35] <darthanubis> people have moved on to better irc cleints
[23:35] <codebrainz_> it's still maintained i think
[23:35] <codebrainz_> and it works well across DEs quite nice, and I'm used to it :)
[23:35] <darthanubis> if you are married to xchat you'll love hexchat
[23:35] <darthanubis> apparently it does not, hence your current issue
[23:36] <darthanubis> :)
[23:36] <codebrainz_> heh, not anymore I guess. although it's not xchat's fault the DEs break stuff
[23:37] <codebrainz_> does hexchat allow an icon in the system tray?
[23:39] <codebrainz_> guess not :(
[23:40] <codebrainz__> oh well, it works with the xfce4-panel... guess you'll have to run both :)
[23:42] <dale_> on 15.04 firefox and thunderbird have no scroll arrows, the bar alone is too fast
[23:45] <darthanubis> mouse wheel?
[23:46] <dale_> works better for now, thanks, they don't have menus between the title bar and tabs either
[23:51] <apellizcos> hola necesito ayuda con plasma 5.1
[23:51] <bazhang> !es
[23:51] <Hairo> cual es el problema?
[23:52] <apellizcos> no puedo actualizar a plasma 5.2 y los menus los tengo en ingles
[23:52] <apellizcos> e seguido muchos tutoriales y en konsole me dice que tengo la version mas actual
[23:53] <bazhang> /join #ubuntu-es apellizcos
[23:53] <bazhang> this is english apellizcos
[23:54] <apellizcos> ok, sorry
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[12:49] <pitti> jdstrand: yes, I agree; /dev isn't a secret anyway, you can get that information from /sys too
[12:50] <pitti> or listening to uevents (through the kernel)
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2015-04-25-#ubuntu-za
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[06:20] <Kilos> hmm...
[06:23] <Kilos> hi SDCDev
[06:23] <Kilos> inetpro ping
[06:32] <Kilos> hi Tonberry
[06:35] <Tonberry> hello
[07:57] <Kilos> hi pieter2627
[07:58] <pieter2627> morning Kilos
[07:58] <Kilos> hoe gaan dit vandag
[07:59] <pieter2627> goed goed, en self?
[07:59] <Kilos> goed dankie
[08:00] <Kilos> as jy klaar is met daai site goed propose a merge laat pro kan kyk
[08:00] <Kilos> o ja het jy gelees van die tale ding?
[08:02] <pieter2627> wou net kyk of nog spel goed opkom om dit saam te sit - niemand het nog spel gesien nie?
[08:02] <Kilos> as nikola dit automaties kan doen met die hele site wonderlik anders moet hulle maar engels leer dink ek
[08:02] <pieter2627> yip ek hey
[08:02] <pieter2627> *het
[08:03] <Kilos> het jy net die een pc seun?
[08:03] <pieter2627> yip
[08:03] <Kilos> ai!
[08:03] <pieter2627> why?
[08:04] <Kilos> dis lekker met 2 dan kan een net wees vir ander goed probeer
[08:05] <Kilos> soos ek het nou net n remix op ander een instaleer
[08:05] <Kilos> die tannie het testers nodig
[08:05] <pieter2627> ek sien, hier is n ou pc wat ek goed kan op test
[08:06] <Kilos> stel jy belang
[08:06] <Kilos> dit is n ligte os
[08:06] <Kilos> openbox ding
[08:06] <pieter2627> bento wat jul gister van gepraat het
[08:06] <pieter2627> ?
[08:06] <Kilos> ja
[08:07] <Kilos> lyk my daai tannie probeer dit aleen doen
[08:07] <Kilos> lyk vir my baie na 10.10 ek dink
[08:08] <pieter2627> kan kyk om n tydjie daarvoor te maak
[08:08] <Kilos> net as jy lus is
[08:08] <Kilos> moenie ander goed afskeep nie
[08:09] * pieter2627 thinks Kilos wants to make sure he has help when stuck :P
[08:09] <Kilos> lol
[08:09] <Kilos> it works here man
[08:09] <Kilos> i just have no idea what to test
[08:10] <pieter2627> ek kan dit in 'fit' in daai tye waaneer ek niks het om te doen of vir iets wag
[08:11] <Kilos> mooi dankie
[08:11] <pieter2627> vir testing dink ek n mens moet stupid act en die dink probeer breek
[08:11] <Kilos> lol
[08:12] <Kilos> sies man ek het al als behalwe kde gebreek
[08:13] <pieter2627> nog nie hard genoeg geact nie? :P
[08:13] <pieter2627> waar download ek dit
[08:17] <Kilos> wag ek kry die ding
[08:17] <Kilos> skuus ek moes gaan hekke oopmaak
[08:17] <Squirm> Morning
[08:17] <Kilos> hi Squirm
[08:18] <Kilos> http://phillw.net/isos/bento-ubuntu-remix/sushi-trusty-rc4-i686-3.13.0-49-2014.04.2.iso
[08:18] <Kilos> ek sien nie test daar nie
[08:20] <Kilos> thats the one i got
[08:20] <Kilos> and she dont come on till avy
[08:20] <Kilos> sigh
[08:23] <Kilos> whats new Squirm
[08:57] <inetpro> good mornings
[08:59] <stickyboy> inetpro: Good morning
[08:59] <stickyboy> https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/linux-ethiopia/xeavx8NmMy0
[09:01] <Kilos> lo my pro
[09:01] <Kilos> you didnt pong me inetpro
[09:01] <Kilos> ai!
[09:01] <inetpro> give me a chance to read oom
[09:02] <Kilos> lol
[09:02] <inetpro> Kilos: pong
[09:02] <inetpro> :-)
[09:02] <inetpro> see I ponged you
[09:02] <Kilos> greetings inetpro do you also see colour changes to some cards in trello
[09:03] <Kilos> :D
[09:03] <inetpro> Kilos: it's called Card Aging
[09:03] <Kilos> oh my
[09:03] <inetpro> Cards will visibly “age” as time passes without any activity. Regular mode will cause old cards to become progressively more transparent. Pirate mode will cause old cards to crack and tear like an old treasure map. Once cards have new activity on them, their age counter is reset and they appear new again. Age thresholds are 1, 2, and 4 weeks.
[09:04] <Kerbero> oh
[09:04] <Kerbero> i've never seen that on trello
[09:04] <Kerbero> but normally our cards aren't around much longer than a couple of days
[09:04] <Kilos> you use trello on your own Kerbero
[09:05] <Kilos> ours last months
[09:05] <inetpro> Kerbero: it's part of Power-Ups
[09:05] <Kerbero> Kilos, no, our company
[09:05] <Kilos> oh also inetpro , another person joined our launchpad but i dunno who
[09:06] <inetpro> and?
[09:06] <Kilos> i like to keep up to date with things man
[09:07] <Kilos> whats with the and? you should tell me who rather
[09:07] <inetpro> Kilos: can you not see who?
[09:09] <Kilos> no i gotta go down the list one for one but dont recognise lotsa names there
[09:09] * inetpro not understanding the problem
[09:09] <Kilos> as usual
[09:09] <Kilos> where does it say this guy joined last
[09:10] <inetpro> 1st of all, what team are you talking about and where are you looking?
[09:10] <Kilos> za i think
[09:10] <Kilos> sjoe
[09:11] <Kilos> oh i found a last thingie
[09:11] <inetpro> ai!
[09:12] <Kilos> im still not any the wiser
[09:13] <inetpro> uh
[09:13] <inetpro> explain to us your real concern
[09:13] <Kilos> nono never mind
[09:13] <inetpro> hmm...
[09:14] <Kilos> as long as the list grows that is good too
[09:14] <inetpro> you can always talk to him via email
[09:14] <inetpro> do the greeting thigy et al
[09:14] <inetpro> thingy as well
[09:15] <Kilos> man then i have to choose out of 7 which one was last
[09:15] <inetpro> where do you see 7?
[09:16] <Kilos> when i ticked last i see 7
[09:16] <Kilos> no 11
[09:16] <Kilos> forget that
[09:16] <inetpro> you really want us to read your mind?
[09:17] <Kilos> did you read confluency s comments about ibid yesterday
[09:17] <Kilos> what mind
[09:17] <inetpro> mind reading requires serious hacking
[09:17] <Kilos> no mind to read, i run on fumes
[09:18] <Kilos> kde fumes
[09:18] <inetpro> tell me about confluency and ibid
[09:18] <Kilos> ai!
[09:19] <Kilos> read the logs
[09:19] <Kilos> she said something about library somethings or other
[09:19] <inetpro> uh
[09:19] <inetpro> who said it can no longer run?
[09:20] <Kilos> in 14.04 and later not in vm with old release
[09:20] <inetpro> rephrase: who said it can no longer run on the latest release?
[09:21] <Kilos> we all tried remember
[09:21] <Kilos> ai!
[09:21] <inetpro> ag kom nou
[09:22] <Kilos> you even made a virtual thing to run it in
[09:23] <inetpro> one day when I have time I will show you that it can run on the latest realse
[09:23] <Kilos> wow
[09:23] <inetpro> simply not priority right now
[09:23] <Kilos> why didnt you tell me when we were sukkeling
[09:24] <Kilos> now that poor simon is rewriting it in python3
[09:24] <inetpro> nothing wrong with that
[09:24] <confluency> I have no idea why someone said that it wouldn't run on 14.04.
[09:24] <confluency> Or that it was necessary to port it to python3.
[09:25] <confluency> You don't need a VM; you just need a virtualenv.
[09:26] <confluency> You can fix pretty much any dependency problem with that.
[09:26] <confluency> I can't comment further without knowing what was actually claimed.
[09:26] <inetpro> confluency: exactly, maybe what we need more than anything is updated documentation and instructions
[09:27] <inetpro> but having said that, the bot needs a bit of love as well
[09:27] <confluency> Sure. But porting the whole thing unnecessarily takes time away from fixing things.
[09:27] <Kilos> i started the whole thing i think because i used to run ibid directly from cli with no other stuff needed
[09:28] <confluency> You can do that with virtualenv.
[09:28] <Kilos> then it didnt work on 14.04 anymore that way
[09:28] <confluency> If you need to.
[09:28] <confluency> But why? What was the problem?
[09:29] <Kilos> you ran ibid in terminal and it didnt do anything
[09:29] <Kilos> before it use to join allocated channels
[09:30] <confluency> Do you remember when this was discussed? Logs are public, so there should be a record somewhere. Did someone narrow the issue down to a root cause?
[09:30] <Kilos> Squirm when did you leave your old host
[09:34] <Kilos> i remeber even gremble tried to fix it and when he gave up the weed said ya its a major job
[09:35] <Kilos> the pro is supposed to remember all these small issues
[09:35] <Kilos> but he is good at finding correct logs
[09:36] <inetpro> haha
[09:36] <confluency> I'm searching them now.
[09:38] <Kilos> it all came about when Squirm left his host and QA died
[09:50] <confluency> I can't find anything useful. I'll ask tumbleweed if I see him online.
[09:50] <Kilos> cool ty confluency hows the studies going?
[09:51] <confluency> Hopefully they won't be going for much longer.
[09:51] <Kilos> then you will be done?
[09:51] <Kilos> good luck
[09:51] <confluency> Yes.
[09:51] <Kilos> lovely
[09:54] <confluency> The only thing I can think of is adding support for sqlalchemy 0.6 and above. But 1) this has nothing to do with python3 and 2) you can install whatever exact package versions you need in a virtualenv.
[09:55] <Kilos> the weed will have to say whats needed, i just use things
[09:56] <Kilos> but he is 9 hours behing us so we only get him at night
[09:56] <Kilos> behind
[10:44] <inetpro> confluency: actually what we need to focus on is to get ibid packaged properly so it can be part of the repositories again
[10:47] <inetpro> other people would say it is outdated and we should just use something else but I haven't really seen another bot with all the features you find in ibid just yet
[10:47] <inetpro> not that I have searched much though
[10:47] <Kilos> ya ibid be kiff for us
[10:48] <inetpro> installing from source is not the right way to go
[10:48] <Kilos> and ibids make the best coffee
[10:51] <inetpro> Kilos: I've changed your job card
[10:51] <Kilos> uh oh
[10:52] <inetpro> https://trello.com/c/od4hQ8XH
[10:56] <inetpro> ai!
[10:57] <Kilos> what
[10:59] <Kilos> inetpro what?
[10:59] <Kilos> ai!
[10:59] <inetpro> you must focus on Current Activities not the others :-)
[11:00] <Kilos> i dont like the old colour
[11:00] <Kilos> oh btw the next new member app has rewritten lubuntu docs
[11:01] <Kilos> with luck a can get him to look at some ubuntu ones that upset you most
[11:01] <Kilos> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/gsilva
[11:06] <inetpro> Kilos: send reminder to mailing list
[11:06] <Kilos> i just got it
[11:07] <Kilos> im sukkeling to keep up with mails too now, they coming from every which way
[11:08] <Kilos> like when membeships expire or are renewed
[11:08] <Kilos> sigh
[11:09] <Kilos> haha
[11:09] <Kilos> your job is namibia
[11:10] <Kilos> hit them in german
[11:10] <Kilos> pretty please
[11:11] <Kilos> i think some need you to join their locos before they pay attention
[11:12] <Kilos> i cant join them all i will lose my za identity
[11:12] <Kilos> or water it down too much
[11:13] <Kilos> and stickyboy is supposed to be tuning the east coast lugs today
[11:45] <Squirm> Kilos: it's about 2 months now
[11:45] <Squirm> and nothing new at all
[11:46] <Kilos> we are just looking for the discussions at that time to pinpoint what needs doing to the ibid package to get it going right again ty Squirm
[11:47] <Kilos> we have hosting place
[11:48] <Kilos> you can also look at ec2 you might be inetrested in free for a year hosting
[11:55] <inetpro> nee oom Kilos, jy verstaan verkeerd
[11:55] <Kilos> oh
[11:55] <Kilos> as usual
[11:57] <inetpro> my job is to simply survive, and the namib guys must find their own ways to survive
[12:36] <Kilos> oh my
[13:43] * Squirm looks around
[13:43] <Squirm> Going to set up WiFi in the Media Suite at the Athlone stadium later
[13:43] <Squirm> :/
[13:44] <Kilos> lol
[13:44] <Kilos> enjoy
[14:12] <Squirm> I doubt it
[14:12] * Squirm shrugs
[14:13] <Squirm> Easy money I suppose, chat a bit later
[14:13] <Kilos> ok
[14:21] <Kilos> wb pieter2627
[14:21] <pieter2627> ty Kilos
[14:55] <gremble> Good morning
[14:55] <gremble> Or afternoon actually
[15:01] <gremble> Hello, once again
[15:07] <Squirm> 'lo
[15:07] <gremble> Hey Squirm
[15:07] <Squirm> You guys should see my view ^^
[15:08] <stickyboy> Squirm: Where are you?
[15:08] <Squirm> Sitting on the top floor of athlone stadium in the media suite
[15:10] <gremble> What sportsball game are you watching/going to watch?
[15:10] <Kilos> hi gremble
[15:12] <Squirm> gremble: set up the wifi for a friend at the stadium
[15:12] <Squirm> Football
[15:12] <Squirm> Not my thing though
[15:12] <Squirm> Nedbank Cup Semi-Final
[15:14] <stickyboy> sportsball ahahhaha
[15:16] <gremble> Hey Kilos
[15:16] <gremble> That's nice
[15:16] <gremble> I think
[15:17] <Kilos> haha
[15:17] <Kilos> stickyboy did you tell them
[15:19] <Kilos> stickyboy you lug okes are so slack i even google messaged you
[15:19] <Kilos> grrr
[15:19] <Kilos> how can i ever win when surrounded by luggites
[15:20] <stickyboy> Kilos: I saw your message. :P
[15:20] <stickyboy> I'm in the middle of writing a blog post about the event. :D
[15:21] <stickyboy> And cross posting on Nairobi and Addis mailing lists.
[15:21] <stickyboy> Twitter, etc.
[15:21] <stickyboy> We talked about creating pan-African links.
[15:21] <stickyboy> I said I want to be able to road trip from Addis to Cape Town, sleeping on Linux users' couches the whole way. :D
[15:23] <Kilos> lol
[15:23] <Kilos> dont forget the irc channel and site link
[15:23] <Kilos> or else
[15:24] <stickyboy> I could never. :D
[15:24] <Kilos> yaya :D
[15:26] <gremble> Just skip Durban and JHB
[15:31] <Kilos> i surround myself with brains so i can smell clever but battling a bit atm
[15:39] <gremble> That's quite creepy
[15:39] <Kilos> lol
[15:41] <Kilos> ohi superfly
[17:05] <charl> good afternoon
[17:05] <charl> Maaz: coffee on
[17:05] * Maaz flips the salt-timer
[17:09] <Maaz> Coffee's ready for charl!
[17:09] <charl> Maaz: danke
[17:09] <Maaz> Bitteschön
[17:11] * Squirm yawns
[17:11] <Squirm> Is it home time yet?
[17:14] <gremble> Probably
[17:14] <Squirm> My hunt for beer at a Football semi-final has returned unsiccessful :(
[17:15] <Squirm> Though someone is sounding a really, really loud horn
[17:15] <gremble> I think it is referred to as a vuvuzela
[17:16] <Squirm> No. I know what a vuvuzela sounds like :P
[17:16] <Squirm> I think it was... Part of the song
[17:44] <stickyboy> tmux is slightly maddening in that it doesn't use the user's default shell.
[18:05] <Kilos-> hmm...
[18:07] <stickyboy> Hmmm
[18:08] <Kilos-> so stickyboy did you have a good day
[18:09] <stickyboy> Kilos-: Yah
[18:09] <stickyboy> Awesome
[18:09] <Kilos-> good
[18:09] <stickyboy> Currently writing about my meetup
[18:09] <stickyboy> Drank some awesome coffee here.
[18:09] <stickyboy> tsega and I really fired these guys up.
[18:09] <Kilos-> good
[18:10] <stickyboy> The blog post is fighting with my piece of steak.
[18:10] <Kilos-> lol
[18:10] <gremble> You should put that on video
[18:11] <Kilos-> what
[18:12] <stickyboy> Kilos-: Writing, but I have to keep taking my laptop off my lap to cut my steak. :D
[18:12] <stickyboy> Sitting on a couch in the bar. :P
[18:12] <Kilos-> lol
[18:12] <stickyboy> But the post will be done in an hour. :D
[18:12] <stickyboy> The bar has some fucking football game on. Fucking UEFA Champions League or somethin.
[18:12] <Kilos-> cool hpefully it brings some reaction
[18:12] <stickyboy> Annoying as hell.
[18:13] <Kilos-> look the other way and dont swear here please we have ladies present
[18:13] <gremble> stickyboy: you don't like the sportsball?
[18:18] <gremble> Not swearing because someone has certain genitalia is really weird. Wouldn't it be better to simply say that it is impolite to swear in general?
[18:23] <stickyboy> Meh, it adds emphasis.
[18:24] <Kilos-> lol
[18:26] <gremble> I have nothing against swearing. I just find it odd that a reason not to swear is that someone that 'might' read said profanities has genitalia different from mine, hence swearing is bad
[18:26] <stickyboy> Well, Kilos- is trying to create a different atmosphere than I am. :D
[18:26] <Kilos-> no man is manners not to swear in font of ladies
[18:26] <stickyboy> That's fine hehe.
[18:27] <Kilos-> then say they have that obnoxiously stupid game on tv
[18:27] <Kilos-> you dont often swear anyway stickyboy
[18:28] <Kilos-> so either you really dont like the game or your steak is tough
[18:28] <Kilos-> and swearing helps for toothache
[18:30] <stickyboy> Kilos-: "Get off my lawn!!!"
[18:30] <Kilos-> rofl
[18:30] <gremble> He shouts that at the sheep I bet
[18:30] <Kilos-> thats cute for a lugger
[18:31] <Kilos-> i kick them
[18:31] <gremble> Children or sheep
[18:31] <Kilos-> sheep
[18:32] <Kilos-> children you take away their toys till the good again
[18:32] <stickyboy> Kilos-: When did you decide to dedicate your life to uniting Africa's Linux users?
[18:32] <Kilos-> it was forced on me stickyboy
[18:32] <Kilos-> by fly and pro
[18:33] <Kilos-> they thought it would keep me quiet
[18:33] <stickyboy> Kilos-: lol
[18:34] <Kilos-> i think it was january or feb
[18:34] <Kilos-> and you were my first contact
[18:38] <stickyboy> brb... walking back to my hostel.
[18:38] <Kilos-> ok
[18:44] <stickyboy> Did you miss me?
[18:44] <stickyboy> Man, I wish I had some chocolate.
[18:44] <gremble> I wish I had more tea
[18:44] <Kilos-> lol
[18:45] <stickyboy> gremble: Man, I have tea but no milk. Meh.
[18:46] <Kilos-> oh stickyboy i actually found some of the old kenyan loco
[18:47] <Kilos-> cant remember who now
[18:49] <gremble> Actually, I think I am going to get mango juice
[18:49] <gremble> much less effort
[18:50] <Kilos-> that be lekker stuff
[18:57] <stickyboy> Where do you live, Kilos-?
[18:57] <Kilos-> pretoria
[18:58] <stickyboy> How is Pretoria?
[18:58] <Kilos> very cold in winter and not enough rain in summer
[18:58] <gremble> Rather chilly at the moment
[19:02] <inetpro> good evening
[19:02] <inetpro> Kilos: ai!
[19:03] * inetpro remembers Kilos taking on the Africa job all by his self
[19:03] <Kilos> uh oh
[19:04] <inetpro> at first I didn't even want to join that channel :-)
[19:04] <Kilos> lol
[19:04] <Kilos> ya well the channel was my idea but connecting was you and fly
[19:05] <inetpro> hah, hah, hah... maybe if you tell yourself you'll start believing it Kilos :-)
[19:05] <Kilos> i do i do i do
[19:06] <Kilos> its been hard work for ballies
[19:07] <inetpro> Kilos: let's talk about trello for a mo
[19:07] <Kilos> uh oh
[19:07] <inetpro> should we not move that "Connect Ubuntu LoCo Teams in Africa" to the wishlist now?
[19:07] <Kilos> yes
[19:07] <Kilos> ill keep trying anyway
[19:07] <stickyboy> Pfft. Ubuntu.
[19:08] <inetpro> done
[19:08] <Kilos> stickyboy is was ubuntu peeps that brought you here
[19:08] <Kilos> ubuntu is the leading linux system
[19:09] <Kilos> and you know it so eat your heart out
[19:09] <Kilos> oh too full of steak atm
[19:10] <Kilos> and it is ubuntu thats going to connect all linux users in africa
[19:10] <Kilos> if you did you job properly
[19:11] <stickyboy> Kilos: Now now!
[19:11] <Kilos> because lugs cant even keep track of their members
[19:11] <gremble> "ubuntu is the leading linux system" wow
[19:11] <gremble> haha
[19:11] <Kilos> so we are healping you
[19:11] <gremble> I'll remember to tell redhat
[19:11] <gremble> :P
[19:12] <stickyboy> Kilos: Just don't forget what Ubuntu is.
[19:12] <stickyboy> Ubuntu GNU/Linux.
[19:12] <stickyboy> Remember that from time to time.
[19:12] <Kilos> i think there is a link to what is the favoured linux distro
[19:12] * stickyboy is typing from a Mac.
[19:12] <Kilos> yes man i know that
[19:12] <stickyboy> #winning
[19:13] <gremble> According to distrowatch its Mint
[19:13] <Kilos> thats fine we accept you too
[19:13] <gremble> :P
[19:13] <Kilos> oh has mint passed us
[19:13] <gremble> By more than double
[19:13] <gremble> :P
[19:13] <stickyboy> Those metrics are only based on clicks.
[19:13] <stickyboy> And I don't care for metrics.
[19:14] * stickyboy is listening to gangster rap.
[19:14] <Kilos> ah its unity that weakened us
[19:14] <Kilos> but mate will pull them back
[19:14] <stickyboy> Kilos: LOL "us".
[19:14] * gremble is listening to Tchaikovsky
[19:14] <inetpro> gremble: http://w3techs.com/technologies/details/os-linux/all/all
[19:14] <stickyboy> You're as bad as the people who say "We won the cup" and they're talking about Manchester United.
[19:14] <Kilos> yeah man i am ubuntu rooted
[19:15] <stickyboy> Kilos: Don't drink and root.
[19:15] <Kilos> lol
[19:15] <gremble> inetpro: it doesn't surprise me that Debian is so high on that list
[19:15] <gremble> not even in the least bit
[19:15] <gremble> :P
[19:16] <stickyboy> Linus Torvalds trashed Debian in his DebConf 14 Q&A...
[19:16] <stickyboy> I slightly LOL'd...
[19:16] <gremble> CentOS is Redhat so they're just behind ubuntu
[19:16] <gremble> Why did he trash debian stickyboy? Because of them splitting?
[19:19] <gremble> Hmm, I knew that mac had darwin as a BSD derivative, but I didn't know that it was a registered UNIX product
[19:21] <Wraz> that is in-acurate as they are counting BSD as UNIX, BSD is not unix.
[19:21] <gremble> Wraz: Yosamite is registered as UNIX on the Opengroup's website
[19:22] <gremble> they own the UNIX brand
[19:22] <gremble> So, I am fairly sure they can call it UNIX :P
[19:22] <Wraz> BSD is NOT UNIX.
[19:22] <Wraz> last bit of my sentance, says it all.
[19:23] <gremble> Then Yosamite is not BSD
[19:23] <Wraz> Correct.
[19:24] <inetpro> heh wb Wraz
[19:24] <Wraz> :P
[19:24] <inetpro> lol
[19:24] <Wraz> 0/
[19:25] <stickyboy> BSD is UNIX-like.
[19:25] <Wraz> True.
[19:25] <Wraz> :)
[19:27] <stickyboy> Not sure what Mac OS X's UNIX certification means in practice.
[19:27] <stickyboy> POSIX compliance or what?
[19:27] <Wraz> FreeBSD = my all time favorite OS, BSD 3.1 was living Large when Windows 98 was the commercial product at large.
[19:28] <Wraz> 3.1 after being rewritten from the ground up from the Novel court battle
[19:29] <stickyboy> The first UNIX-like OS I used was Mac OS X in 1999. :D
[19:29] <stickyboy> Then Linux a few years later.
[19:29] <Wraz> I started on BSD :P
[19:30] <Wraz> back when i was finishing my MCSE when i was 16 ;0
[19:30] <Wraz> 16 Years ago now o0
[19:30] <Squirm> You're getting old Wraz
[19:31] <Wraz> I am getting too old ;<
[19:31] <Squirm> Though I 'spose I'm not *that* far behind
[19:31] <Squirm> Someone around me farted :/
[19:35] <stickyboy> MCSE ugh.
[19:35] <stickyboy> :P
[19:35] <Wraz> I was the youngest in the southern hemishphere at the time to do A+ MCSE and MCSD :P
[19:36] <Wraz> Now I dont even work with computers :p
[19:36] <Wraz> I am a railway signals Engineer o0
[19:40] <melodie> then don't work with computers, just have fun with them? :D
[19:41] <stickyboy> Dat gangster rap doe
[19:44] <Squirm> Lol
[19:54] <Kilos> hmm...
[20:07] <stickyboy> Kilos: https://groups.google.com/forum/#!members/nairobi-gnu
[20:07] <stickyboy> 171 members! Holy crap. :D
[20:13] <Kilos> lol
[20:19] <Squirm> Home time
[20:20] <Kilos> yay
[20:20] <Kilos> kinda late
[21:00] <Kilos> night all. sleep tight
[21:11] <Squirm> 'lo
[21:13] <melodie> hi Squirm
[21:14] <gremble> o/
[21:14] <melodie> hello gremble
[21:14] <gremble> Hello melodie
[21:19] <stickyboy> LMFAO https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HUuAU0fG0Vk
[23:05] <smile|afk> Slaapwel :)
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2015-04-25-#kubuntu-devel
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[07:31] <lordievader> Good morning.
[10:56] <BluesKaj> Hey folks
[11:49] <phodius>
[14:57] <pempem> hello
[14:57] <pempem> congrats for the new 15.04
[14:57] <pempem> very stable
[16:53] <Riddell> sgclark: valorie: get some nice photos at your expo please :)
[16:54] <Riddell> valorie: ooh you're a paddler?! https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10154414284525577&set=t.507013560&type=1&theater
[16:54] <Riddell> but Bob isn't, he needs to learn how keep his knees wide:)
[17:07] <ejay> Hello guys. How can I change color of bottom panel?
[17:07] <ejay> in 15.04
[17:10] <Riddell> I've no idea, best ask in a user channel
[17:11] <ejay> Riddell, I did but IMHO devel guys shoulda know where is file, line or whatever, where I can manually change panel's color.
[17:17] <Riddell> ScottK: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/modemmanager-qt/+bug/1448502 for sru love
[18:14] <soee> guys i posted some of your nicks as a contact persons here: https://plus.google.com/+AllanShand/posts/aFK1U4T7g7J
[18:25] <Riddell> !testers | plasma 5.3
[18:25] <Riddell> http://qa.kubuntu.co.uk/plasma-status/build_status_5.3.0_vivid.html
[18:26] <soee> oh i have already installed most of this packages
[18:26] <soee> will do update now
[18:27] <soee> hmm but there are still reds
[18:27] <soee> hmm no new packages for me to update, so i have it installed and all works fine for me
[18:28] <soee> the kdeinit5 bug also is gone
[18:28] <soee> when trying to open Special Application Settings
[18:29] <Tm_T> Riddell: packages in some ppa?
[18:29] * seaLne gives it a go
[18:29] <soee> Tm_T: https://launchpad.net/~kubuntu-ppa/+archive/ubuntu/next-staging/+packages
[18:30] <Tm_T> thanks, will try it
[18:30] <darthanubis> I tested plasma 5.3 and it crashes all over the place
[18:30] <darthanubis> specifically when ading widgets to the desktop
[18:30] <soee> darthanubis: what happens ?
[18:31] <darthanubis> everytime you add a widget , I was adding system widgets cpu,memory,hard disk space etc, the whole desktop crashes
[18:31] <darthanubis> I rolled back to 5.2, but am willing to try again, as 5.2 has no such widgets
[18:32] <soee> darthanubis: well they work for me (dont crash plasma) but they are visually broken a bit
[18:33] <darthanubis> Yes they work, except the memory widget. Just upon adding them, the desktop crashes. Once the desktop reloads, the widgets are there and working
[18:33] <soee> this is what i have http://wstaw.org/m/2015/04/25/snapshot4.png
[18:33] <darthanubis> so long as I did not call the widget manger up from the desktop by right clicking, it all was fine
[18:34] <darthanubis> yeahm thats what I had
[18:35] <Tm_T> is removal of baloo expected?
[18:35] <darthanubis> who, your memory widget works!
[18:35] <darthanubis> whoa, not who
[18:36] <darthanubis> soee: has plasma 5.3 recieved any updates since last night?
[18:36] <Tm_T> apparently is
[18:36] <soee> hmm im not sure if Riddell updated any packages sine than
[18:37] <seaLne> https://launchpad.net/~kubuntu-ppa/+archive/ubuntu/next-staging/+packages suggests they are mainly thu/fri
[18:38] <darthanubis> hmm, I was current then
[18:38] <darthanubis> I rollded back at midnight
[18:39] <darthanubis> quassel-cleint is broken as well
[18:39] <darthanubis> http://picpaste.com/snapshot9-b4pvbmvx.png
[18:40] <darthanubis> It took a reinstall to finally get rid of this next photo
[18:40] <darthanubis> http://picpaste.com/snapshot6-HnYUdtkt.png
[19:29] <seaLne> well a basic session of firefox and konsole seem fine with 5.3
[19:53] <Riddell> seaLne: does konsole crash on close?
[20:09] <sheytan> hey guys
[20:09] <seaLne> Riddell: nope
[20:09] <soee> darthanubis: ping
[20:10] <sheytan> just running fresh installed 15.04 and kwallet just pisses me off. Even if i open it on the first login, kmail still asks for all passwords
[20:10] <sheytan> why? :/
[20:10] <sheytan> and the kwalletmanager freezes just after start
[20:14] <soee> Riddell: can i get somehow debug symbols for them: http://wstaw.org/m/2015/04/25/snapshot5.png ?
[20:25] <soee> if someone can reproduce, pleace comment https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=346668
[20:33] <vip> oh
[20:33] <vip> how to add desktop shortcut to binary with custom icon?
[21:32] <darthanubis> soee: pong
[21:45] <soee> darthanubis: [22:25] <soee> if someone can reproduce, pleace comment https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=346668
[21:45] <darthanubis> ok
[21:55] <darthanubis> upgrading back to 5.3
[21:55] <mparillo> Nobody seems to file bugs against PPAs, do they? I added kubuntu-ppa/next-staging to test Plasma 5.2.95, and it works great on my HW, but not on VMWare. https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=346467 kicked it back to Kubuntu, but do anybody know where the Kubuntu bug should be fined?
[21:55] <mparillo> s/fined/filed/
[21:55] <darthanubis> plasma crashed as soon as I attempted to add the cpu monitor. Didn't get a chance to remove it
[21:55] <kubotu> mparillo meant: "Nobody seems to file bugs against PPAs, do they? I added kubuntu-ppa/next-staging to test Plasma 5.2.95, and it works great on my HW, but not on VMWare. https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=346467 kicked it back to Kubuntu, but do anybody know where the Kubuntu bug should be filed?"
[21:55] <darthanubis> added it this time, and it crashed
[21:56] <soee> darthanubis: CPU monitor is the only one form monitors ?
[21:56] <soee> what about disk and others, can you test ?
[22:01] <darthanubis> soee: disk just locked the whole computer while I was turning off some of the unrelated sensors
[22:01] <darthanubis> i had to reboot
[22:01] <soee> hmm seems like those monitors are a bit broken
[22:01] <soee> please comment to my bug and describe your issues
[22:02] <darthanubis> x'ing out cpu widget crashed plasma
[22:16] <darthanubis> http://picpaste.com/snapshot10-geewsk2E.png
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2015-04-25-#ubuntu-br
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[00:44] <yangm> alguém sabe ler smart? http://cl.ly/image/3y1z3L1F3i36
[00:59] <juliana67> hello
[01:00] <astroo-> ola
[01:02] <juliana67> Tudo bem
[01:03] <astroo-> tudo e tu?
[01:03] <juliana67> Sim...vazia essa sala ne
[01:03] <astroo-> como a net toda em conversas
[01:04] <juliana67> Estou um pouco velha pra chats
[01:04] <astroo-> estas enganada
[01:05] <astroo-> sou mais velho
[01:05] <juliana67> Haha...eu acho q nao, sou de 67
[01:05] <astroo-> 66
[01:05] <juliana67> Nossaa
[01:06] <juliana67> Eu achei que so fosse eu aqui uhauaha
[01:06] <PSKOL> Nossa
[01:06] <Dead_Thinker> :)
[01:06] <PSKOL> Kkkk
[01:07] <astroo-> eu tenho 1 frase para descrever as conversas em grandes groupos na net; estamos na idade da "pedra lasca" em que so uns milhares falam em 3.000.000.000
[01:07] <PSKOL> Idade da minha mae
[01:08] <juliana67> Ai...eu disse, o pessoal eh tudo jovem aqui ):
[01:08] <astroo-> nao os conheço quase todos
[01:08] <astroo-> praticamente todos sao teus compatriotas
[01:09] <juliana67> Mas eu mexo com linux desde muito tempo
[01:10] <PSKOL> Sou de 86
[01:10] <juliana67> Eu estive em uma conferencia GNU em massachusetts em 1996
[01:10] <PSKOL> @@
[01:11] <juliana67> O Sr. Tourvalds estava por al uhauah
[01:12] <yangm> eu sou só de 97
[01:13] <juliana67> Ai bebes entao hein rs
[01:13] <juliana67> *só
[01:14] <juliana67> Mas eh bom saber que comunidade cresceu tanto
[01:19] <ubuntu199> Boa noite!
[01:19] <ubuntu199> instalei o ubuntu 15.04, mas ao fazer login volta a tela para o login e não inicia a área de trabalho. Ja tentei pelo terminal, porem não resolveu. Alguém pode me ajudar?
[01:20] <astroo-> ola
[01:21] <ubuntu199> Preciso de ajuda. instalei o ubuntu 15.04, mas ao fazer login volta a tela para o login e não inicia a área de trabalho. Ja tentei pelo terminal, porem não resolveu. Alguém pode me ajudar?
[01:22] <AlexandreMBM> ubuntu199, instalação limpa ou aproveitando arquivos antigos?
[01:24] <ubuntu199> removeu alguns arquivos. Não sei se são os antigos.
[01:24] <ubuntu199> limpou e removeu arquivos.
[01:31] <ubuntu199> Alguém pode me ajudar?
[01:33] <AlexandreMBM> ubuntu199, tem de ver se arquivos que restaram tem as permissões OK. Na dúvida, ao menos mude usuário e grupo de todos para um valor correto.
[01:33] <AlexandreMBM> Um valor que corresponda à atualidade.
[01:34] <ubuntu199> AlexandreMBM, e como faço isso?
[01:34] <AlexandreMBM> ubuntu199, vá na pasta de seu usuário: cd ~/
[01:35] <AlexandreMBM> ubuntu199, primeiramente dê uma olha em como estão os atributos dos arquivos: ls -la
[01:35] <AlexandreMBM> ubuntu199, no Arch Linux, meu usuário é alexandre
[01:35] <AlexandreMBM> ubuntu199, então eu vou em /home/alexandre
[01:36] <AlexandreMBM> ubuntu199, lá usuário e grupo em tudo deveria estar: alexandre users
[01:36] <AlexandreMBM> ubuntu199, no Ubuntu, segundo me lembro: alexandre alexandre
[01:36] <AlexandreMBM> ubuntu199, ou seja, usuário alexandre, grupo alexandre
[01:37] <AlexandreMBM> ubuntu199, você pode aplicar isso recursivamente com algo assim:
[01:37] <AlexandreMBM> ubuntu199, chown -R alexandre:alexandre ~/
[01:37] <AlexandreMBM> ubuntu199, por via das dúvidas, use o sudo
[01:37] <ubuntu199> AlexandreMBM, digito isso no terminal?
[01:38] <AlexandreMBM> ubuntu199, sudo chown -R alexandre:alexandre ~/
[01:38] <AlexandreMBM> ubuntu199, sim, mas obviamente não "alexandre", o seu usuário
[01:39] <ubuntu199> AlexandreMBM, e depois?
[01:40] <AlexandreMBM> ubuntu199, só
[01:40] <AlexandreMBM> ubuntu199, reinicie o serviço gráfico ou reinicie a máquina
[01:40] <AlexandreMBM> ubuntu199, e teste
[01:40] <AlexandreMBM> ubuntu199, ou simplesmente encerre a sessão e logue novamente
[01:40] <AlexandreMBM> ubuntu199, resolveu?
[01:41] <ubuntu199> AlexandreMBM, vou fazer isso agora. Ja retorno.
[02:45] <AlexandreMBM> Ele não veio, então EU vou indo.
[04:14] <astroo-> ciao pessoal
[04:18] <mamedio> Boa noite
[04:19] <astroo-> ola e ate que estou de saida
[04:20] <mamedio> Tenho o Windows 8 instalado na minha máquina, deixei um espaço vazio de 50 gb para instalar o ubuntu, porém, ele o pen drive bootavel com o ubuntu não inicia pelo uefi...alguma dica?
[04:20] <astroo-> diz que pc tens e e mesmo a versao 8 e nao a 8.1?
[04:21] <mamedio> 8.1
[04:22] <mamedio> o pen drive bootavel foi feito pelo yumi, pode ser o problema?
[04:22] <astroo-> deve ser alguma proteçao mas a esta hora ajuda deve ser complicado
[04:24] <mamedio> Beleza hehehe De qualquer forma, estou baixando de novo a imagem do ubuntu e vou bootar pelo Rufus
[04:24] <astroo-> saiu ha 2 dias a versao 15
[11:17] <Guest38652> OO eu não consigo ligar no meu ubunto apos a atualização
[12:30] <marcelomauro> Bom dia a todos. Fiz minha atualização para o ubuntu 15.04. Eu tinha um arquivo chamado bookbinder3.0.jar que é um aplicativo para formatação de impressão de livros. Não estou mais conseguindo rodar esse aplicativo. Antes bastava clicar duas vezes nele para executar. Agora abre como se fosse um diretorio
[12:39] <mirqui> bom dia :)
[13:22] <Jhon> bom dia pessoal
[13:27] <Carlos_> Galera, bom dia. Sou iniciante no Linux. Baixei o Ubuntu há pouco(dizem ser o melhor para o começo). Agora preciso de saber qual OO escolher: o RPM ou DEB e o porque da escolha. Podem me dar um help?
[13:31] <Carlos_> genteee?/
[13:48] <marcelomauro> Carlos_, se você escolheu entre ubuntu, debian ou qualquer sistema da família debian (lembre-se que o ubuntu é baseado no debian) vc vai usar o empacotamento do tipo 8.deb
[13:48] <marcelomauro> *.deb
[13:49] <marcelomauro> Caso sua escolha fosse para alguma distribuição da família Red Hat, tal como o fedora, a escolha natural seria o 8.rpm
[13:49] <marcelomauro> *.rpm
[13:50] <marcelomauro> claro que dá pra usar os dois em qualquer um, mas é bom usar aquele a qual a distro está mais otimizada.
[13:51] <Carlos_> Então caso eu utilizasse eles trocados, seria como se eu estivesse instalado um programa de 32 em um SO de 64?
[13:52] <Carlos_> E há um local onde eu possa encontrar esta "tabela" que me informou? tipo, quem em baseado em rpm e quem em baseado em deb?
[13:56] <mirqui> ahaha carlos , vc é iniciante , mas nem tanto
[13:56] <mirqui> não sabia destas coisas
[13:56] <mirqui> simplesmente instalei o ubuntu e comecei a usar
[13:57] <Carlos_> que nada mirqui... eu ainda estou baixando o pacote LO para meu note
[13:57] <mirqui> eu não fiz nada disso
[13:58] <mirqui> baixei a imagem iso
[13:58] <mirqui> e instalei , os pacotes debian são nativos
[13:58] <Carlos_> A estrutura de seu processador e placa mãe deve ser verificada para ser se está compatível 32bits do processador, com 32 bits da placa mãe, e a mesma coisa para os de 64
[13:58] <Carlos_> mas diga-me, está gostando da experiencia com linux?
[13:58] <mirqui> 32 bits é padrão , 64 é performance
[13:59] <mirqui> tenho um dual core , com intel , então dá tranquilo
[13:59] <mirqui> o note tbm , é um core i5 com placa nvidia , esse era meu temor
[14:00] <mirqui> mas deu tranquilo
[14:00] <mirqui> uma boa experiência esto9u tendo
[14:00] <Carlos_> mas é viável fazer a verificação dos bits.. pois a compatibilidade lhe garante a velocidade adequada
[14:00] <mirqui> estou
[14:00] <mirqui> esperimentei várias distros
[14:01] <mirqui> suse , xubuntu , kubumtu , mint
[14:01] <Carlos_> nao gera conflito entre eles. não que eles deixarão de funcionar com a total performance
[14:01] <mirqui> que eu mais gostei foi o ubuntu
[14:01] <Carlos_> queria usar o fedora... mas li na net que era relacionado a servidores e etc... dai larguei pra lahh
[14:01] <mirqui> é que eu uso para coisas banais
[14:01] <Carlos_> acho o nome bonitinho. kkkkk
[14:01] <Carlos_> qual eh seu uso?
[14:02] <mirqui> internet , e jogos simples
[14:02] <mirqui> o mais que faço é o imposto de renda
[14:03] <mirqui> alias minha mãe faz , e no linux tentei pela primeira vez este ano
[14:03] <mirqui> deu tranquilo
[14:03] <Carlos_> eu uso pra net, trabalhos da facul
[14:03] <mirqui> mas fiz no windows pq minha impressora deu pau
[14:03] <Carlos_> e download de filmes
[14:03] <mirqui> da tranquilo tbm downloads de filmes
[14:04] <Carlos_> to qeurendo trocar de SO pq to com um celeron e to quase surtando com win8
[14:04] <mirqui> tem um complemento no firefox
[14:04] <Carlos_> misericordia...
[14:04] <Carlos_> dai vou ver se fica mais rapido
[14:04] <mirqui> o dwntheme all que funciona como torrent
[14:04] <mirqui> só que no download
[14:05] <mirqui> ai sua internet pode cair que ele reinicia no ponto que parou
[14:05] <Carlos_> queria baixar o LO pelo torret mas nao to achando
[14:05] <mirqui> lo não conheço
[14:06] <mirqui> preciso ir , outra hora falamos :)
[14:06] <Carlos_> vai lah
[14:06] <mirqui> boa sorte :)
[14:06] <Carlos_> abço
[14:22] <ubuntunewba> Tenho a iso do ubuntu que acabei de fazer o download mas nao sei passar pro pen drive do modo que role o boot
[14:22] <ubuntunewba> alguma dica ?
[14:30] <lieber> ubuntulog, usa o unetbootin
[14:30] <lieber> tem erro não
[14:38] <ubuntunewba> liber li aqui ele nao lista o 14.10 nos suportados
[14:39] <ubuntunewba> melhor eu fazer o download de uma anterior entao ?
[16:02] <Afranio> galera, vou comecar a usar o linux pela primeira x daqui a pouco... perguntinha basica: ao instala-lo, os drivers de video, som, ec, sao identificads automaticamente assim como no win7?
[16:03] <yangm> deveriam
[16:03] <Poca> sim Afranio
[16:03] <Poca> só os drivers proprietários de vídeo( AMD e Nvidia ) precisam ser instalados depois
[16:03] <Poca> mas é tranquilo
[16:05] <Afranio> voces que tem mais tempo que eu, me orientem; tenho que .apresentar meus trabalhos na facul e tals... logo, preciso do pacote office da microsoft... logo, não posso dispensar o Win. Faço máquina virtual ao instalar o linux neh?
[16:07] <yangm> Você pode: a. abandonar a tirania da microsoft e usar o office que vem com o ubuntu; b. instalar em uma máquina virtual; c. instalar no linux usando wine; d. usar microsoft office online
[16:09] <Afranio> ele on line nao dah... net daqui da minha cidade não aguenta....
[16:09] <Afranio> mas o que o wine faz? não o conheço
[16:09] <yangm> ele carrega uma vez depois fica em cache (o online)
[16:09] <yangm> wine é uma camada que traduz software de windows pra linux
[16:11] <Afranio> pq tipo, a net da minha casa sei que toca de boa pq o provedor eh bom por ser de interior
[16:11] <Afranio> mas jah a da facul eh mto, mas mto ruim
[16:12] <Afranio> o linux roda normal meus seriados rmvb?
[16:21] <yangm> roda, só usar VLC eu acho
[16:22] <Afranio> ah sim...
[16:23] <Afranio> na verdade, vou experimentar o linux por curiosidade, e tbm p ver se ele eh mais leve... to com um note cm processador celeron(que praticamente nao processa) kkkkk pra ver se melhora um tikim
[16:23] <xGrind> Afranio, acho o smplayer melhor. as vezes da uns bugs no vlc
[16:29] <Afranio> ah sim
[16:33] <Afranio> o linux eh mais leve pessoal?
[16:34] <yangm> depende do linux
[16:34] <yangm> lubuntu e xubuntu são mais leves que o ubuntu
[16:36] <Afranio> ubuntu x win 8.1?
[16:36] <yangm> ai tem que ver como seu pc reage com cada um deles
[16:36] <Afranio> ah sim
[16:37] <Afranio> to aki há horas tentando terminar de baixar o Libre pro linux...
[16:37] <Afranio> mas a transferencia deles pra cah tah mto demorada
[16:37] <yangm> ubuntu já vem com office
[16:37] <yangm> tem um negócio que faz pra baixar os servidores brasileiros
[16:37] <yangm> mas não lembro o passo a passo
[16:38] <yangm> vou sair
[16:39] <Afranio> ahm entao to baixando a toa
[16:39] <Afranio> vai lah
[16:39] <Afranio> abço e obrigadoo
[16:39] <Afranio> =)
[16:57] <mirqui> boa tarde
[16:58] <mirqui> preciso de ajuda , a tecla dois pontos e ponto e virgula n'ao est'ao funcionando , o circunflexo tbm n'ao
[16:59] <mirqui> desconfigurou e eu n'ao sei configurar
[17:03] <mirqui> desconsiderem o pedido , consegui acertar :)
[18:22] <Marcello-MiX> msg nickserv identify mpq@01
[18:23] <Marcello-MiX> j ##LOL
[18:27] <mirqui> não ponha sua senha ai
[18:27] <mirqui> está a vista para todo mundo
[18:34] <Ernandes> rs
[18:43] <Marcello-MiX> vish
[18:45] <mirqui> aconselho trocar ahaha
[18:49] <leleobhz> Iae povo!
[18:53] <Poca> epic fail
[19:32] <Ernandes> debian hj
[19:33] <Ernandes> \|/
[19:47] <Ernandes> festaa
[20:57] <astroo-> ola pessoal
[20:58] <saturnlove> ola
[20:58] <astroo-> ola
[21:26] <fag_ubuntu> primeira vez aqui alguem pode ajudar?
[21:27] <astroo-> bem-vindo
[21:27] <astroo-> poe sempre a duvida que tens
[21:28] <fag_ubuntu> eu preciso registrar meu nick?
[21:29] <astroo-> nao
[21:30] <fag_ubuntu> tinha visto aqui que precisava
[21:30] <fag_ubuntu> http://wiki.ubuntu-br.org/UsandoIRC
[21:34] <fag_ubuntu> vou indo até mais a todos
[22:39] <aureliano> boa noite a todos
[22:41] <astroo-> ola
[22:41] <saturnlove> boa
[22:41] <aureliano> qual é mais leve: ubuntu 14.10 ou 15.04 ? Alguem notou diferença?
[22:43] <aureliano> ou melhor, 14.04 ou 15.04
[22:43] <bonilha> ola
[22:47] <bonilha> alguém sabe informar se existe um site com a lista de idiomas do Ubuntu?
[22:47] <astroo-> ola
[22:47] <saturnlove> okay
[22:48] <saturnlove> auto complete f*
[22:48] <saturnlove> Ola bonilha
[22:49] <saturnlove> já fizeste alguma busca no Google?
[22:52] <bonilha> olá saturnlove
[22:53] <bonilha> fiz algumas buscas e não encontrei um lista, apenas oferecem o download
[22:57] <bonilha> na verdade o que quero saber é se o Ubuntu oferece a tradução para o idioma Servio
[23:01] <saturnlove> bonilha:
[23:01] <saturnlove> bit.ly/1Gj7osd
[23:02] <bonilha> sim
[23:02] <saturnlove> a que parece sim, nao estou a entender tal indioma, mais verifica se sabes
[23:03] <bonilha> sim, é isso mesmo, muito obrigado. []
[23:03] <astroo-> http://packages.ubuntu.com/utopic/libs/ubuntu-keyboard-serbian
[23:10] <bonilha> obrigado <astroo->
[23:10] <astroo-> ok
[23:13] <Ernandes> rs
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2015-04-25-#ubuntu-locoteams
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[06:28] <Kilos> hi there nhaines and others
[06:31] <Kilos> hi daker
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ubuntu-chat
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2015-04-25-#xubuntu-devel
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[06:03] <OvenWerks> Unit193: has anyone tested the latest core ISO?
[06:04] <Unit193> amd64 or i386? Yes to i386, and I'm sure I did live on both, UEFI and BIOS for amd64.
[06:05] <OvenWerks> Unit193: I get a recursive partition table message when I look at the USB stick after dd ing the ISO to it
[06:05] <OvenWerks> 64 bit
[06:07] <Unit193> Didn't dd it, but it looks fine..
[06:07] <OvenWerks> Hmm.
[06:07] <OvenWerks> I have tried two different sticks
[06:08] <Unit193> Mmm.
[06:10] <OvenWerks> Maybe I will look at it tomorrow again and try the 32 bit
[06:58] <OvenWerks> Unit193: 32 bit works... boots anyway. disk check shows errors on this one too, but it doesn't hang.
[06:59] <Unit193> What errors?
[06:59] <OvenWerks> two of the checksums don't
[07:00] <OvenWerks> (check)
[07:01] <OvenWerks> Sorry it must be late, using the diskcheck on the bootscreen. There are two checksum errors.
[07:02] <OvenWerks> There are two errors for both the 64bit and 32 bit, but the 32 bit boots all the way. The 64 bit hangs with an I can't find this partition to mount kind of error
[07:05] <OvenWerks> Both have partitions that parted doesn't know what to do with. I am using dd if=dist.ISO of=/dev/sdd to write to the USB stick. This seems to work fine with the ubuntustudio ISOs.
[07:12] * Unit193 tries something.
[07:13] <elfy> it worked !!!
[07:13] <OvenWerks> Unit193: no slide show :)
[07:13] <Unit193> Yep.
[07:13] <elfy> where is this iso then ...
[07:16] <OvenWerks> elfy: it is on ... I can't go look the core ISO has no browser... Unit193's site
[07:21] <OvenWerks> I'll be back in a bit... reboot
[07:27] <Unit193> elfy: https://unit193.net/xubuntu/ though, still trying something.
[07:29] <elfy> Unit193: okey doke
[07:40] <OvenWerks> Install of the 32 bit ISO is fine.
[07:44] <Unit193> Crap.
[07:45] <OvenWerks> how so?
[07:47] <Unit193> Problem with the 64bit right? Lets change something with the 64bit build then test it by building a 32bit iso! Noo. Well, it's (re)starting now, but I need to go as I have an early morning and it's nearly 4am.
[07:47] <OvenWerks> No problem, I have enough to work with. I will play with the 32 bit version for now
[07:48] <Unit193> OvenWerks: Checksum issues, one at least should be fixed.
[07:48] <Unit193> Other one I may have to change permissions on a file, but would prefer not to of course.
[07:49] <OvenWerks> I will try again tomorrow then.
[07:49] <Unit193> (The md5sum file was added to files to check...)
[08:50] <Unit193> On the bright side, the amd64 image looks better.
[11:32] <bluesabre> good morning folks
[11:35] <Unit193> No.
[11:42] <bluesabre> okthxbai
[11:43] <brainwash> "Will 4.12 be coming to Trusty?"
[11:43] <bluesabre> "No."
[11:47] <brainwash> not sure if I should quote that
[11:47] <brainwash> bug 1347272
[11:50] <Unit193> bluesabre: Hello.
[12:29] <brainwash> bluesabre: will you comment on that report?
[12:29] <brainwash> not that we want people give hope of backporting any of the fixes
[18:59] <brainwash> bluesabre: bug 1441460
[18:59] <brainwash> the reporter claims that one light-locker option is not persistent
[22:16] <Unit193> elfy: Not that you're here, but where did it ask for the pass? LightDM was good for me, sudo too, and shutdown.
[22:16] <Unit193> (Well, the act of starting to shutdown.)
[23:34] <bluesabre> hey guys, sorry, internet went outish earlier and then I went out to town
[23:37] <bluesabre> the official quote that brainwash can use is https://twitter.com/bluesabredavis/status/570387123024433152
[23:38] <bluesabre> for bug 1347272, I thought that we had gone through and resolved the issue for every app, need to take a look
[23:52] <bluesabre> Also commented on1441460
[23:52] <bluesabre> bug 1441460
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2015-04-25-#ubuntu-nl
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[07:32] <lordievader> Goede morgen.
[08:41] <Soul-Sing> zijn er mogelijkheden binnen 14.04 om txpower waarden "vast" te zetten ath9 acer ?
[08:42] <Soul-Sing> Qualcomm Atheros AR9485 Wireless Network Adapter
[08:57] <lordievader> Staat die niet gewoon op de max van NL?
[08:58] <Soul-Sing> nee lordievader
[08:58] <Soul-Sing> slechts op 16
[08:59] <Soul-Sing> via root iwconfig worden de waarden niet aangepast ubuntu 14.04
[08:59] <lordievader> Je kaart kan meer?
[08:59] <Soul-Sing> ja 20
[08:59] <lordievader> Je kunt een upstart scriptje schrijven...
[08:59] <Soul-Sing> via init rc?
[09:00] <lordievader> Upstart is Ubuntu's init systeem, in alles voor 15.04 althans.
[09:01] <Soul-Sing> als je me kunt helpen met zo'n script graag, dat gaat mij boven de pet
[09:02] <lordievader> Je kunt het ook in /etc/rc.local gooien ;)
[09:03] <Soul-Sing> ok
[09:04] <lordievader> Soul-Sing: Ik zou ook iw gaan gebruiken i.p.v. iwconfig.
[09:04] <Soul-Sing> rfkill block bluetooth
[09:04] <Soul-Sing> iwconfig wlan0 txpower 20
[09:04] <Soul-Sing> exit 0 staat er
[09:04] <Soul-Sing> rc.lokal bedoel ik
[09:04] <Soul-Sing> daar ben ik dus geweest
[09:05] <lordievader> Zou die het resetten tijdens het connecten... Gebruik je de NetworkManager?
[09:05] <Soul-Sing> wicd
[09:05] <Soul-Sing> nm werkte niet
[09:07] <Soul-Sing> met deze kaart
[09:07] <lordievader> Hmm, ik ken wicd niet. NM kun je scriptjes uit laten voeren nadat ie geconnect is.
[09:07] <Soul-Sing> lordievader, ik kende wicd ook niet, maar zo werkt het min of meer
[09:14] <Soul-Sing> iw dev wlan1 set txpower fixed 20 ?
[09:15] <lordievader> Je hebt wlan0 in je rc.local?
[09:15] <lordievader> Verder lijkt het correct.
[09:19] <Soul-Sing> ja
[09:20] <Soul-Sing> ik probeer nu: iw phy wlan0 set txpower fixed 20
[09:20] <lordievader> Err 'iw dev wlan0' ;)
[09:21] <Soul-Sing> :) ok
[09:21] <Soul-Sing> iw dev wlan0 set txpower fixed 20 mBm?
[09:24] <Soul-Sing> command failed: No such device
[09:24] <lordievader> Soul-Sing: iw info
[09:24] <lordievader> De mBm kan weggelaten worden.
[09:25] <Soul-Sing> wacht....err reboot
[17:00] <Soul-Sing> @lordievader het is niet gelukt..wel bedankt voor het meedenken
[20:26] <deamosreapos_> Avond,
[20:26] <deamosreapos_> Iemand toevallig in de gelegenheid te helpen?
[20:27] <deamosreapos_> Heb een probleem met het willen delen van een Samba share, krijg deze foutmelding:
[20:27] <deamosreapos_> "'net usershare' returned error 255: net usershare add: cannot convert name "Everyone" to a SID. The connection was refused. Maybe smbd is not running."
[20:27] <deamosreapos_> Ik draai op Ubuntu 15.04
[20:32] <deamosreapos_> Niemand? :(
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2015-04-25-#ubuntu-us-mi
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[02:21] <jrwren> cscheib: Isalita in AA
[02:22] <jrwren> although, I'd not call it "really good" in the white tablecloths and many garsons sense, the food is amazeballs
[12:48] <cmaloney> Good morning
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ubuntu-chat
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2024-05-13T22:11:09.272042
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2015-04-25-#ubuntu-pt
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[04:13] <astroo-> ciao pessoal
[20:57] <astroo-> ola pessoal
[20:57] <saturnlove> ola
[20:58] <astroo-> ola
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2015-04-29-#ubuntu-ir
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[12:59] <soheil> سلام
[12:59] <soheil> دوستان
[12:59] <soheil> کسی هست کمک کنه
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ubuntu-chat
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2024-05-13T22:11:09.275025
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2015-04-29-#ubuntu-ca
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[22:39] <ohmbase> anyone else get an email saying that we aren't active enough?
[22:42] <genii> ohmbase: We made a decision not to renew. We don't have enough people with enough time to devote to it right now, and most members are disenchanted with lack of support from Canonical anyhow.
[22:45] <ohmbase> fair enough
[22:46] <ohmbase> also never did get a chance to float the idea of starting a LUG at the key signing party here in tbay... the party was such a gongshow
[22:47] <ohmbase> we hit 8+ showstopper bugs on ubuntu (+one each on debian and windows). took 3 of us an hour to get a single signature to work >_>
[22:47] <genii> If there's enough motivated people later on, and maybe Canonical starts helping a bit more with holding events and supporting their LoCos, we can always re-apply.
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2015-04-29-#ubuntu-se
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[07:44] <NeverW8> madbear: missade ditt meddelande igår :P bor vid centrum
[07:44] <NeverW8> Morgon människor btw
[07:46] <Barre> mörrn
[08:19] <NeverW8> Hmm, tror ni det går att köra en moped från väserås till södra stockholm?
[08:19] <Hund> Morsning
[08:19] <Hund> NeverW8: Klart det går.
[08:20] <NeverW8> Känns lite som om jag måste ta skogsvägar för att komma fram x)
[08:20] <NeverW8> Kan ju liksom inte köra på motovägen
[08:20] <Hund> Kika på Google Maps.
[08:20] <Hund> haha
[08:21] <Hund> Tänkte inte på det. :P
[08:21] <NeverW8> Gjorde det, visade skogsväg :P
[08:21] <NeverW8> Går möjligtvis att få den flyttad till /fina/ eskilstuna och sedan köra därifrån (vilket jag tror blir kortare)
[08:22] <Hund> Fråga inte mig. :D
[08:22] <Hund> Jag hittar inte ens där jag bor.
[08:23] <NeverW8> Den gamla moppen har en ubuntu 7.04 cd skiva under sätet x)
[08:23] <Hund> Hur kommer det sig?
[08:23] <NeverW8> Körde det på min laptop under plugg tider
[08:24] <NeverW8> ett kort tag ska påpekas också
[08:24] <Hund> Kort tag?
[08:24] <Hund> Slutade du med Ubuntu eller plugget? :P
[08:24] <NeverW8> Ubuntu :P
[08:26] <NeverW8> runt 5 timmar på en ##### moped.. hmm, undrar vad transport kostar
[08:27] <Hund> Ah
[08:27] <Hund> haha
[08:30] <Hund> https://www.reddit.com/r/linux/comments/348aib/ubuntu_makes_sudo_security_flaw_public_ignores/
[08:30] <Hund> Jobbigt. :P
[13:46] <antii> :P
[13:47] <NeverW8> :P
[13:55] <ewook> blö!
[13:57] <NeverW8> !ölb
[13:59] <Barre> herp derp
[14:48] <einand> Alltså vad är poängen, med att bara dela ut 200MB, hur många klarar sig på den lilla datamängden. Borde inte mängden anpassas efter hur lågnt man åker
[14:48] <einand> 200MB i 4 timmar räcker ju inte specielt långt
[16:22] <maxjezy> einand, poängen är att skapa små irritationer som ger ett dåligt rykte generellt, folk fokuserar på dåligt internet istället för dåligt underhåll av banor och växlar osv.
[16:26] <maxjezy> nä, det håller inte.
[16:27] <maxjezy> vad har ni ätit till middag?
[19:01] <maxjezy> gjorde en liten rendering så här på kvällskanten https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U7E1bqPGUvM
[20:33] <einand> maxjezy: life algoritmen?
[22:17] <maxjezy> einand, jag tror faktiskt det
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2024-05-13T22:11:09.283541
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2015-04-29-#ubuntu-us-ca
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[08:08] <nhaines> elky, ianorlin: just realized I am probably not going to get home on Sunday in time for the meeting.
[08:09] <nhaines> I might be able to join in via a mobile phone and SSH in the car and all that jazz but despite my bringing along a Bluetooth keyboard that probably won't be practical.
[16:12] <ianorlin> nhaines: understood
[19:42] <iheartubuntu> Hello all. I'm looking for someone named Seidos. Does anyone remember him? AKA Kevin? He seemed to have dropped off the map.
[19:49] <ianorlin> I personally don't remember him
[19:50] <pleia2> I haven't seen him in a while
[19:51] <pleia2> searching of logs shows he was last here in May of 2012
[19:53] <iheartubuntu> Thanks Lyz
[19:54] <pleia2> sure, nice to see you :)
[19:54] <iheartubuntu> hows the gang doing here!
[19:55] <pleia2> doing well :)
[19:58] <iheartubuntu> how was this years SCALE?
[19:58] <ianorlin> awesome
[20:01] <iheartubuntu> I'm enjoying 15.04 right now. Trying to figure out my wifi modem. Wifi isnt getting the speeds that I get with a direct ethernet. Its not Ubuntu because the problem is the same with WinXP. Too many hours tinkering with the wireless setup in the modem :) must be a crappy modem or something
[20:02] <iheartubuntu> i get 100mbps directly, but wifi is shaky and gets 25mbps at best
[20:03] <iheartubuntu> should have just stuck with paying the monthly modem fees :p
[20:05] <ianorlin> iheartubuntu: wifi can be subject to interference
[20:09] <iheartubuntu> probably will try a diff modem next
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ubuntu-chat
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2024-05-13T22:11:09.286682
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"iheartubuntu",
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2015-04-29-#ubuntu-us-co
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[22:20] <alkaline4> hello
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ubuntu-chat
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2024-05-13T22:11:09.287293
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2015-04-29-#ubuntu-ru
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[05:58] <andrex> @unload Encyclopedia
[05:58] <lector> andrex: The operation succeeded.
[06:22] <andrex> @load Encyclopedia
[06:22] <lector> andrex: The operation succeeded.
[08:35] <Areks> Приветсвую народ, подскажите чтобы вы посоветовали в такой ситуации DNS lookups on ns373222.ip-188-165-234.eu took 103.625 milliseconds on average. Slow DNS lookups are often caused by incorrect DNS settings in /etc/resolve.conf
[10:35] <KIRenergy> добрый день
[10:35] <tagezi> добрый
[10:36] <KIRenergy> есть шара на линуксе для виндоус клиентов,сделал так чтобы шару могли подключать по логину и паролю,но не пойму как разрешить пользователям изменять файлы в шаре
[11:08] <KIRenergy> никто не подскажет?
[11:59] <andrex> @sync
[12:00] <lector> Attemting to download database
[12:00] <lector> andrex: The operation succeeded.
[13:20] <andrex> @load Linux
[13:20] <lector> andrex: The operation succeeded.
[13:20] <andrex> @kernel
[13:20] <lector> andrex: The latest stable kernel is unknown; the latest snapshot of the stable kernel is unknown; the latest beta kernel is unknown.
[13:20] <andrex> хм
[13:20] <andrex> )
[13:30] <SergeyIT> незнайка детектед
[13:33] <andrex> ща доколупаю незнайку и будет место бунтухелпы
[13:33] <andrex> ток доколупывать буду уже завтра наверно)
[13:37] <andrex> test
[13:38] <andrex> умерла незнайка)
[13:46] <SergeyIT> а бунтухелп где?
[13:46] <andrex> фз
[13:46] <andrex> серавно его переделывать нада)
[13:47] <SergeyIT> так и назови бунтухелпнекст
[13:48] <SergeyIT> и юнити прикрути )
[13:49] <andrex> с миром
[13:49] <andrex> гг
[15:54] <rosix> Привет, всем
[15:54] <SergeyIT> и тебе не хворать
[15:56] <rosix> BleachBit прогу юзал кто ?
[15:56] <andrex> не матерись)
[15:57] <rosix> не ну серьезно, не чистили систему ей ?
[15:57] <andrex> эт типо как навинде клианер какойнить)
[15:57] <rosix> да
[15:57] <andrex> бесполезная ерундень
[15:57] <rosix> 773 мега вычистила сейчас
[15:57] <andrex> если конечно у тя система не с годов 2008х стоит
[15:58] <rosix> а зачем хлам нужен ?
[15:58] <andrex> ну 700 метров это капля в соре
[15:58] <andrex> м
[15:58] <rosix> согласен
[15:58] <rosix> но всеже
[15:58] <rosix> это мусор
[15:59] <andrex> вот я на своей 20 с лишним гигов с хомяка удалил
[15:59] <andrex> и половина была ток логи
[15:59] <rosix> ядро новое ставил весит 43 метра
[15:59] <andrex> и то удалить решил потому что место кончилос(
[16:00] <rosix> понятно
[16:00] <andrex> ты сорцы скачай и посмотри скок весят)
[16:00] <andrex> а если еще собрать ток то что нужно а не все подряд то будет ваще мало весить)
[16:01] <andrex> ну опять же пользы от этого 0 ускорение загрузки на пару тройку секунд и все
[16:01] <rosix> я просто что тему завел, начал я чистить сейчас последний раз после обновления рпазита и BleachBit завис под конец
[16:01] <rosix> вот и решил спросить зависал у кого ?
[16:02] <andrex> я не юзал даже
[16:03] <rosix> а на счет сборки да ты прав я вот 17.1 установил версию минт и половина выкинул всего что мне не нужно
[16:04] <rosix> но то что они комплектуют по полной то я считаю это хоролшо, можно сказать все для всего а если не надо то поработай сам
[16:06] <rosix> непонятно еще мне что выпустили они мин 17.1 а ядро 3.13, спрашивается скакого хер. Приходится ядро самому обновлять
[16:08] <rosix> неужели немогут собрать на основе нового ядра 4.0 у них стабильная версия я читал но я 4.1.0.999 себе поставил магистральную
[16:16] <andrex> это все к ним)
[16:16] * andrex попер добивать бота
[16:16] <SergeyIT> видел темы на форуме от чистильщиков... типа не загружается после чистки
[16:16] <andrex> а нефиг фз чем и от кого чето чистить)
[16:17] <rosix> меня слава Богу пронесло, когда зависло я перезагружал и думал блин неужели всё )
[16:17] <rosix> но нет нормально все прошло
[16:17] <SergeyIT> с облегчением )
[16:18] * andrex посмотрел форум и совсем опечалилсо
[16:18] <rosix> <andrex в том то и дело что прога офовская репы
[16:18] <andrex> нифига
[16:19] <rosix> рейтинг у нее там большой вот и поставил
[16:19] <rosix> что нифига ?
[16:21] <rosix> http://sh.uploads.ru/AmUQo.png
[16:21] <andrex> всмысле, заняться им нечем там совсем уже, понатыкали всяких твикалок в репы
[16:21] <rosix> fff
[16:21] <rosix> ааа
[16:21] <rosix> ты про это
[16:21] <rosix> ну да я просто понял так что надо с ней по осторожней
[16:27] <SergeyIT> если брать, то 5 звездочек
[17:03] <Loafer> .
[20:08] <Loafer> есть кто?
[20:09] <red_shuhardt> может быть.
[20:20] <Loafer> хороший ответ
[20:23] <red_shuhardt> да.
[20:26] <red_shuhardt> будет вопрос по существу, будет, возможно, и отввет по существу.
[20:40] <Loafer> да я проверить хотел, есть кто живой
[20:41] <Loafer> прощу прощения за оффтоп
[20:41] <red_shuhardt> Спасибо за беспокойство. Приятно, что о тебе думают ))
[20:42] <Loafer> согласен ) это крайне приятно
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ubuntu-chat
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2024-05-13T22:11:09.302188
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2015-04-29-#launchpad-dev
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[07:58] <lifeless> wgrant: don't you love release bugs ;0
[07:59] <lifeless> wgrant: I've asked ttx to grab some timing data, it looks like milestone assignment on bugs may be rather slow - we'll try to create a decent bug report
[08:00] <lifeless> wgrant: he's saying ~2s to dereference the bug, assign a milestone, and call lp_save()
[08:00] <wgrant> lifeless: On OpenStack projects? Yes.
[08:00] <wgrant> You have thousands of structsubs.
[08:01] <lifeless> wgrant: still, should be deferrable work
[08:01] <wgrant> I am aware.
[08:01] <lifeless> wgrant: heh
[08:01] <lifeless> wgrant: ok, well we'll gather the data
[08:02] <wgrant> It's on the list for this year, as it's becoming quite unpleasant.
[08:02] <lifeless> since assigning milestones is relatively rare I figure it doesn't show in the % failure rates much
[08:02] <wgrant> Most other things are performing OK nowadays.
[13:26] <cjwatson> Re discussion from yesterday, Diff.generateDiffstat works just fine for git diffs; it just needs a small tweak to run in -p1 mode.
[13:27] <cjwatson> (We could change the diff format from turnip, but I'd rather leave that as close as possible to the default git style.)
[13:29] <wgrant> Nice.
[13:30] <wgrant> Yeah, let's notdiverge pointlessly.
[13:35] <cjwatson> wgrant: And it's just the format_diff stuff in lp.app.browser.stringformatter that should need to be tweaked otherwise, right?
[13:38] <cjwatson> In which case I'm nearly done with preview diffs, just need to have the alternate diffs stuff in place in turnip and to finish the job changes.
[13:38] <wgrant> cjwatson: I think so. The rest is just bsed on the classes.
[13:41] <wgrant> I'll get to your two remaining not-quite-mega-branches soonish.
[13:41] <cjwatson> https://code.qastaging.launchpad.net/~cjwatson/germinate/+git/germinate/+ref/exp/+merge/254302 renders now.
[13:42] <cjwatson> Thanks.
[13:58] <wgrant> Ah excellent.
[14:06] <wgrant> cjwatson: https://code.launchpad.net/~wgrant/launchpad/do-not-reject-ddebs/+merge/257758
[14:10] <cjwatson> wgrant: r=me, thanks
[14:42] <cjwatson> wgrant: That's hopefully all the MP stuff proposed now. I'm moving on to see if I can sort out at least a little bit of repo listing display.
[14:57] <cjwatson> wgrant: Should I shove contextlib2 into turnip-dependencies and land Kit's branch? (Though, that's only worth it if you're going to get all the way up my review stack today, which may be a bit to ask ...)
[15:01] <wgrant> cjwatson: Sounds reasonable to me.
[16:48] <cjwatson> wgrant: This is basically awful: http://people.canonical.com/~cjwatson/tmp/git-target-listing.png
[16:49] <cjwatson> I think the best way to improve that would be to provide a list of branches in all associated repositories sorted by last-modified and privileging the default repository, or something
[16:49] <cjwatson> OTOH this was quick. Any suggestions that might be doable short-term?
[17:32] <cjwatson> Deploying Kit's turnip branch for cross-repo diffs now.
[17:38] <cjwatson> Had to "rm -r /srv/mojo/mojo-stg-ue-launchpad-git/trusty/qastaging/build/storage-ceph/" so that the new auto-repo stuff stopped being confused
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ubuntu-chat
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2024-05-13T22:11:09.309798
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2015-04-29-#ubuntu-on-air
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[03:09] <jaysurp> Good shit guys, gotts say i super excited about snappy core and the merge to ubuntu next desktop, although it looks funny on desktop atm, I cant wait to see the finished product
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ubuntu-chat
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2024-05-13T22:11:09.310896
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2015-04-29-#ubuntu-it
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[00:00] <matadores> e come ci faccio a capire
[00:05] <matadores> ma chi italiano ha aggiornato sto kubuntu
[00:10] <matadores> !chat
[00:10] <ubot-it> per qualsiasi argomento non inerente strettamente il supporto a ubuntu, /join #ubuntu-it-chat
[07:05] <matadores> buon girono
[07:05] <matadores> !paste
[07:05] <ubot-it> http://paste.ubuntu.com/ servizio che permette di incollare lunghi output senza intasare il canale; incollare il testo, indicare il nick, premere paste e postare in canale l'indirizzo della pagina
[07:06] <matadores> http://paste.ubuntu.com/10936275/plain/ qualcuno può aiutarmi?
[07:39] <PrSve> ragazzi ho un problema con flash, firefox non sembr rilevrlo...
[07:44] <Carlin0> PrSve, come hai installato flash ?
[07:50] <deshack> ciao a tutti! Qualcuno ha problemi con LibreOffice 4.4.2-0ubuntu1 su vivid?
[07:50] <deshack> a un mio collega capita che selezionando del testo in Writer si blocca il pc
[07:51] <Carlin0> deshack, ha una scheda nvidia il collega ?
[07:52] <deshack> Carlin0: geforce g102m
[07:52] <Carlin0> ha installato i driver proprietari ?
[07:52] <deshack> Carlin0: mi sa proprio di no
[07:52] <Carlin0> è un bug dei nouveau
[07:52] <deshack> figo! grazie Carlin0
[07:53] <Carlin0> di nulla
[07:53] <Carlin0> scappo
[07:53] <PrSve> normale installa Carlin0 sudo apt-get install flashplugin-installer ma fino a ieri funzionava
[07:53] <PrSve> installa>>>installazione
[07:54] <Carlin0> PrSve, devo scappare cmq se fino a ieri funzionava magari ieri è successo qualcosa ...
[07:54] <PrSve> sto provando a installare questo pacchetto adobe-flashplugin... spero risolvi il problema
[07:55] <Carlin0> PrSve, è lo stesso pacchetto
[07:55] <Carlin0> bai
[07:55] <Carlin0> /away
[07:55] <PrSve> cia'
[08:03] <PrSve> ragazzi ho un problema con flash, firefox non sembr rilevrlo...
[09:31] <mica> Hello! I have a problem
[09:31] <mica> I tried to install ubuntu on my windows
[09:31] <mica> I've saved the file to a CD
[09:31] <mica> After the downloader is an error in the root
[09:31] <mica> I do not know how
[10:51] <ricky_> ciao a tutti qualcuno che ha fatto partire teamviewer con la nuova 15.04?
[10:52] <matadores> buon giorno
[10:53] <matadores> !chat
[10:53] <ubot-it> per qualsiasi argomento non inerente strettamente il supporto a ubuntu, /join #ubuntu-it-chat
[10:53] <ricky_> k
[10:58] <matadores> http://paste.ubuntu.com/10936275/ questo ti basta bot?
[10:58] <matadores> kubuntu e tutto un bug su toshiba satellite
[11:01] <matadores> in piu schermo quando tocco cartelle sfarfalla solo oggi sono riuscito ad alzare e abbassare volume e mettere senza suoni , zip non mi funziona ho anche cercato di seguire la guida per usare tramite terminale ma nulla
[11:03] <teresa> salve a tutti
[11:04] <Guest72366> scusate il sistema mi dava un errore esiste un comando che mi scansiona il sistema ? grazie
[11:18] <Guest72366> nessuno risponde va be scusate
[11:18] <ufalc> salve gente, mi hanno istallato una versione di ubuntu 13.10 antonio cantaro.... vorrei aggiornarlo...chi mi helpa?
[11:19] <Guest72366> ufalc fa da solo
[11:19] <ufalc> in che senso?
[11:20] <Guest72366> ufalc li fa da solo appena lo colleghi
[11:20] <ufalc> no
[11:20] <ufalc> non lofa
[11:20] <ufalc> mi dice che gli aggiornamenti non sono piu disponibili
[11:21] <Guest72366> forse perche una versione datata? qui non so risponderti
[11:22] <ufalc> ok, grazie (y)
[11:43] <ricky_> ho un problema da quando ho messo i driver proprietari per la nvdia gtx 760 in sli
[11:43] <ricky_> ora mi compare sul desktop la serigrafia 2x AA
[11:43] <ricky_> come lo rimuovo?
[12:10] <eddy> buongiorno a tutti ho problema quando aggiorno la distro mi da questo errore Impossibile recuperare http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/saucy/multiverse/source/Sources 404 Not Found [IP: 91.189.91.23 80]
[12:10] <bip> eddy: prova a cambiare sorgente da cui scarichi
[12:12] <eddy> come devo fare grazie
[12:14] <bip> !Repository | eddy
[12:14] <ubot-it> eddy: Guida ai repository: http://wiki.ubuntu-it.org/Repository e http://help.ubuntu-it.org/8.04/ubuntu/add-applications/it/extra-repositories.html | Esempio di sources.list http://wiki.ubuntu-it.org/Repository/SourcesList | Da Kubuntu: http://wiki.ubuntu-it.org/Repository/Kubuntu
[12:18] <krabador> eddy, saucy salamander 13.10 è fuori supporto da mesi
[12:18] <krabador> e i repo sono offline
[12:20] <eddy> come aggiungere i nuovi grazie
[12:24] <krabador> eddy, non la apri da piu' di un anno questa ubuntu , vero?
[12:24] <eddy> ho la stessa distro su pc fisso e quando aggiorno non da errore
[12:24] <krabador> eddy, entra qui dal pc fisso
[12:24] <krabador> manda sudo apt-get update ,e fa un pastebin del risultato
[12:27] <eddy> di tutto
[12:28] <eddy> Err http://us.archive.ubuntu.com saucy/universe Sources 404 Not Found [IP: 91.189.91.23 80] Err http://us.archive.ubuntu.com saucy/multiverse Sources 404 Not Found [IP: 91.189.91.23 80] Err http://us.archive.ubuntu.com saucy/universe i386 Packages 404 Not Found [IP: 91.189.91.23 80] Err http://us.archive.ubuntu.com saucy/multiverse i386 Packages
[12:37] <krabador> !pastebin | eddy
[12:37] <ubot-it> eddy: http://paste.ubuntu.com/ servizio che permette di incollare lunghi output senza intasare il canale; incollare il testo, indicare il nick, premere paste e postare in canale l'indirizzo della pagina
[12:37] <krabador> usa questo per tutto il contenuto
[12:37] <blackwolf86> timer
[12:58] <jester-> 'ngiorno
[13:03] <N3mo> 'giorno/sera
[13:04] <N3mo> attraverso il comando "sensors" si possono vedere le temperature degli HDD oppure che altro comando bisogna usare?
[13:06] <jester-> se hai installato e configurato sensorsd
[13:06] <jester-> e se i driver del kerne supportao 100% ls tua piastra
[13:07] <N3mo> vicibox:~ # sensorsd
[13:07] <N3mo> If 'sensorsd' is not a typo you can use command-not-found to lookup the package that contains it, like this:
[13:07] <N3mo> cnf sensorsd
[13:08] <N3mo> èèèèèèèèèèèèèèèé?
[13:09] <jester-> nemo leggher quello che ti si scrive?
[13:09] <N3mo> ghe mi na capra!
[13:09] <jester-> [15:06:06] <jester-> se hai installato e configurato sensorsd
[13:10] <N3mo> io quando diedi sensors per la prima volta mi fece tutta una procedura in automatico, credevo funzionasse ufguale :D
[13:10] <N3mo> Il programma 'sensord' è pressente nel pacchetto 'sensord', che è installato sul tuo sistema.
[13:10] <N3mo> Il percorso assoluto per 'sensord' è '/usr/sbin/sensord', quindi per avviarlo potrebbero essere necessari i diritti di super utente (es. root)
[13:11] <N3mo> ecco forse ...
[13:26] <N3mo> hddtemp
[13:26] <N3mo> ops :D
[14:25] <widecurio64> salve a tutti, avrei intenzione di installare microsoft office su kubuntu 14.10, ma non ho wine
[14:26] <jester-> widecurio64: installalo e controlla sul sito wine se msoffice è supportato
[14:27] <widecurio64> ok, ma come installo wine?
[14:27] <jester-> se non hai un pc ciofeca fai prima a installare winz su macchina virtuale
[14:27] <jester-> da software center lo iinstalli
[14:28] <widecurio64> ma sul software center non c'è
[14:29] <jester-> !info wine
[14:29] <ubot-it> wine (source: wine1.6): Microsoft Windows Compatibility Layer (meta-package). In component universe, is extra. Version 1:1.6.2-0ubuntu4 (trusty), package size 0 kB, installed size 21 kB
[14:30] <widecurio64> c'è winetricks sul software center, installo quello?
[14:31] <jester-> widecurio64: devi abilitare i repo extra da sorgenti software cioè parteners e indipendenti
[14:31] <jester-> da software center
[14:31] <widecurio64> ok
[14:31] <jester-> poi nel terminale sudo apt-get install wine
[14:33] <widecurio64> ok, lo sta installando
[14:35] <jester-> widecurio64: non vedo office https://appdb.winehq.org/
[14:37] <widecurio64> ok
[14:37] <widecurio64> quindi metto win su macchina virtuale
[14:38] <jester-> quanta ram e che cpu?
[14:38] <widecurio64> 8 GB di ram e CPU quad core i5 da 3GHz
[14:38] <jester-> va benissimo,
[14:39] <jester-> widecurio64: 4.10?
[14:39] <jester-> 14.10
[14:39] <widecurio64> si, Kubuntu 14.10
[14:40] <jester-> virtyalbox e meglio ancora vmware player che è pure gratis
[14:40] <jester-> virtualbox
[14:43] <widecurio64> ok, ma qualcuno sa come rimediare all'errore
[14:43] <widecurio64> Codice 'uscita:
[14:43] <widecurio64> VBOX_E_INVALID_OBJECT_STATE (0x80BB0007)
[14:43] <widecurio64> Componente:
[14:43] <widecurio64> SessionMachine
[14:43] <widecurio64> Interfaccia:
[14:46] <jester-> widecurio64: SE INCOLLI piu di 3 righe in canale il bot prima ti chiccca poi ti banna
[14:46] <widecurio64> me ne sono accorto
[14:46] <jester-> widecurio64: l'errore lo riscontri facendo?
[14:47] <widecurio64> no, ho incollato la cosa sbagliata, aspetta che uso pastebin
[14:47] <widecurio64> http://paste.ubuntu.com/10940935/
[14:47] <jester-> widecurio64: c'è qualcosa da abilitare nel bios
[14:48] <widecurio64> eh, ma non trovo nessuna voce corrispondente nel bios
[14:49] <jester-> widecurio64: meglio prenderlo da qui https://www.virtualbox.org/wiki/Downloads
[14:49] <jester-> sia la app che le exstension
[14:50] <widecurio64> no, il programma va, ma l'errore me lo da solo con vm a 64 bit
[14:52] <jester-> widecurio64: vedi se nel bios c'è qualcosa circa le macchine virtuali
[14:53] <widecurio64> questo è il mio bios: http://paste.ubuntu.com/10940997/
[14:54] <widecurio64> cioè, è simile, aspetta che lo trovo
[14:54] <cristian_c> widecurio64, basta la prima immagine per trovare l'opzione
[14:54] <cristian_c> http://www.asus.com/websites/global/products/Dtrwyo6uHKZoKqxQ/img/mode-2.jpg
[14:55] <widecurio64> ecco, questa è la mia, scusate: http://paste.ubuntu.com/10941029/
[14:56] <cristian_c> widecurio64, stesso discorso
[14:56] <cristian_c> http://www.asus.com/it/Motherboards/H97PRO_GAMER/websites/global/products/f9o0JrcMmQK1vKKv/img/mode-2.jpg
[14:56] <widecurio64> cioè, quale voce?
[14:56] <cristian_c> widecurio64, sei andato in Advanced?
[14:56] <cristian_c> (mi pare che i pc abbiano anche un manuale, in caso di dubbi)
[14:56] <widecurio64> no
[14:57] <cristian_c> widecurio64, allora fallo
[14:57] <widecurio64> ok, lo farò
[15:48] <georgebraghin> Salve, ho un problema con l'installazione di Ubuntu sul mio notebok
[15:48] <georgebraghin> *notebook
[15:49] <georgebraghin> Potete aiutarmi?
[17:07] <LoZioNe> Buonsalve,ma si da anche supporto per problemi con la stampante qua? :)
[17:14] <Mr_Pan> LoZioNe, si se esponi che problema hai
[17:22] <LoZioNe> iep! scusate,maledetto telefono...allora problema Canon Pixma MP160,ho ricaricato le cartucce e seguito la procedura del reset.All'avvio della stampante continua a rilevarmi la cartuccia vuota e rimanda l'errore E5
[17:23] <LoZioNe> c'è un modo per disinibire o evitare il controllo del livello delle cartucce?
[17:27] <beppapig> ciao
[17:30] <LoZioNe> ciao beppapig,
[18:09] <Pool> Salve, io avrei messo ubuntu 14.04 lts in dual boot su un hp pavilion dv5 1107el
[18:09] <Pool> funziona tutto tranne il wifi
[18:11] <Pool> potete aiutarmi? grazie in anticipo
[18:13] <krabador> Pool, apri il terminale
[18:13] <krabador> sei connesso con quel pc adesso, tramite cavo?
[18:14] <Pool> no, sono con un altro
[18:15] <Pool> ma ce l'ho acceso
[18:15] <krabador> Pool, se attacchi il cavo lan al notebook
[18:15] <krabador> puoi installare i driver per il wireless
[18:15] <krabador> in meno di un minuto
[18:15] <Pool> ah, ok devo andare in driver aggiuntivi e fa da solo?
[18:16] <krabador> prima posta qui il risultato di sudo lshw -C network
[18:16] <krabador> in modo da essere sicuri
[18:16] <krabador> !pastebin | Pool
[18:16] <ubot-it> Pool: http://paste.ubuntu.com/ servizio che permette di incollare lunghi output senza intasare il canale; incollare il testo, indicare il nick, premere paste e postare in canale l'indirizzo della pagina
[18:18] <Pool> Mi da tutte le specifiche della scheda mi sembra di capire
[18:19] <krabador> ti dice con precisione che scheda hai. Se hai collegato il pc a scheda di rete, puoi fare sudo apt-get install pastebin
[18:19] <krabador> sudo apt-get install pastebinit
[18:19] <krabador> quest'ultimo, non il precedente, ho mancato -it finale
[18:19] <krabador> sudo lshw -C network | pastebinit
[18:20] <krabador> quest'ultimo restituisce un link, che puoi copiare qui
[18:24] <Pool> grazie mille !
[18:25] <krabador> Pool, ci sei ?
[18:29] <Caterpillar> raga
[18:29] <Caterpillar> ma il mantainer di Darktable ha finalmente aggiornato il software alla 1.6?
[18:29] <Caterpillar> non ho ubuntu, nn posso controllare
[18:30] <cristian_c> Caterpillar, controlla su packages.ubuntu.com
[18:30] <Caterpillar> thx
[18:30] <krabador> Caterpillar, darktable (1.4.2-1build2)
[18:30] <Caterpillar> madonn
[18:30] <Caterpillar> ancora
[18:30] <Caterpillar> ...
[18:30] <Caterpillar> uff
[18:30] <krabador> in vivid, la 15.04
[18:30] <cristian_c> !enter | Caterpillar
[18:30] <ubot-it> Caterpillar: non spezzettare una frase su piu' righe. Non utilizzare il ritorno a capo come punteggiatura.
[18:31] <Caterpillar> http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?keywords=darktable&searchon=names&suite=trusty§ion=all
[18:31] <Caterpillar> come mai non esce fuori alcun risultato per la 15.04
[18:32] <krabador> Caterpillar, hai selezionato "any" ?
[18:32] <Caterpillar> Search package directories
[18:32] <Caterpillar> Search on Package names only
[18:32] <Caterpillar> ah dannazione
[18:32] <krabador> distribution - any
[18:33] <Caterpillar> http://packages.ubuntu.com/trusty/darktable
[18:33] <Caterpillar> che roba è Ubuntu MOTU Developers (Mail Archive)
[18:33] <krabador> Caterpillar, http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?keywords=darktable&searchon=names&suite=all§ion=all
[18:36] <Caterpillar> MOTU Developers sta per?
[18:36] <krabador> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MOTU#About_the_MOTU
[18:37] <krabador> "This is the team which takes care of universe and Multiverse and universe components in ubuntu"
[18:38] <Pool> Scusa adesso ci sono, collego il computer e torno
[18:38] <Caterpillar> krabador: quindi non c'è un tizio che si è fatto carico del pacchetto, è come se tutti potessero metterci mano
[18:38] <krabador> all'interno del team si divideranno il lavoro
[18:39] <Caterpillar> il fatto che quella versione è vecchia, instabile, ecc.
[18:40] <krabador> Caterpillar, seguono delle linee, con cui allineano il parco software
[18:41] <krabador> anche in jessie 1.4.2-1+b3: amd64 i386
[18:41] <Caterpillar> si ma ubuntu mica è debian
[18:41] <Caterpillar> dovrebbe avere la 1.6
[18:44] <krabador> ubuntu non è debian, ma ha dei feature e software freezes
[18:47] <Caterpillar> krabador: beh si, ma non durano 12 mesi
[18:48] <krabador> Caterpillar, ma bloccano il software nella data del freeze
[18:48] <krabador> dopodichè il team fa mantenimento di sicurezza
[18:50] <krabador> Caterpillar, il 19 febbraio ubuntu 15.04 , ha avuto il feature freeze ed il debianimportfreeze, smettono di avanzare tutti i pacchetti che non siano kernel e ambiente grafico
[18:51] <krabador> Caterpillar, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/VividVervet/ReleaseSchedule
[18:52] <Pool> ok sono da ubuntu ora
[18:52] <krabador> Pool, apri terminale
[18:53] <Pool> e mi dice che è impossibile trovare il pacchetto
[18:53] <krabador> Pool, sudo apt-get install pastebinit
[18:53] <krabador> Pool, sei collegato con il cavo?
[18:53] <Pool> si
[18:53] <krabador> sudo apt-get install pastebinit
[18:53] <krabador> Pool, che ubuntu hai installato ?
[18:53] <Pool> 14.04 lts
[18:53] <Pool> 32 bit
[18:54] <krabador> Pool, quando hai installato, se posso chiedere?
[18:54] <Pool> Ah aspetta
[18:54] <Pool> ho la batteria a tampone che non tiene piu conto della data, puo essere che per questo non scarica?
[18:55] <krabador> Pool, la data puo' dare diversi problemi
[18:55] <krabador> Pool, software-properties-gtk
[18:55] <Pool> sul terminale?
[18:55] <krabador> si
[18:55] <krabador> spunta tutte le voci nella tab "software per ubuntu"
[18:55] <Pool> fatto
[18:56] <krabador> nel senso che devono essere tutte selezionate
[18:56] <Pool> si erano gia tutte selezionate
[18:56] <krabador> chiudi correttamente
[18:56] <krabador> sudo apt-get install pastebinit
[18:57] <Pool> ok lo sta facendo adesso
[18:58] <Pool> fatto
[18:58] <krabador> Pool, sudo lshw -C network | pastebinit
[18:59] <Pool> te lo invio?
[18:59] <krabador> è il motivo per cui è stato installato pastebinit
[18:59] <krabador> inviarlo qui
[18:59] <Pool> http://paste.ubuntu.com/10943785/
[18:59] <krabador> :)
[19:00] <krabador> Pool, perfetto allora, sempre software-properties-gtk
[19:00] <krabador> seleziona l'ultima tab a destra
[19:00] <krabador> driver aggiuntivi
[19:00] <krabador> segnala cosa ti appare
[19:01] <Pool> ok ci sono i driver nvidia per la scheda video
[19:01] <Pool> e molti altri
[19:01] <Pool> broadcom
[19:02] <krabador> installa il broadcom
[19:02] <Pool> e avermedia
[19:03] <Pool> l'ha fatto
[19:04] <krabador> Pool, allora, già adesso dovrebbe funzionare,ma riavvia
[19:04] <Pool> ok
[19:08] <Pool> Funziona !! Grazie mille !!!
[19:08] <krabador> bene
[20:51] <edf> buonasera a tutti, ho un problema con le cartelle condivise. Ho creato su un altro pc una cartella in rete con win non capisco come accedervi da un altro pc con ubuntu
[22:18] <cristian_c> edf, devi collegarti tramite samba
[22:20] <jester-> edf: e configurare la ondivisione con samba-system-config su tutti i pc
[23:03] <offo> ciao a tutti
[23:04] <offo> ho comprato l'offerta della tim 20gb con modem 4glte
[23:05] <offo> pero' se collego il modem al pc via cavo, viene letto ma non installato e poi non riesco ad usufruire del servizio tim vision
[23:05] <offo> potete aiutarmi?
[23:05] <jester-> offo: il router non si installa, si collega a telcaz per i cazzi sui
[23:05] <offo> grazie mille in anticipo!!!!
[23:05] <jester-> offo: non so circa la tv via cavo
[23:06] <jester-> entra nel ruttere e vedi se è collegato
[23:06] <offo> beh sulle istruzioni e' scritto di installare il modem collegandolo via usb e dopo dovrebbe automaticamente aprirsi anche tim vision
[23:06] <jester-> offo: http://192.168.1.1
[23:07] <jester-> offo: forse in winzoz lo fa in automatico
[23:07] <offo> jester
[23:08] <jester-> per linux dovresti sentire l'assistenza teleaazz e un router normale non è usb ma ethernet
[23:08] <offo> winzoz....telcaz....che roba e'???
[23:08] <jester-> offo: = telecom e windows
[23:09] <offo> ahahha
[23:09] <offo> si in windows lo fa in automatico
[23:09] <jester-> offo quindi telofona all'assistenza telecom e senti se liux è supportato
[23:10] <offo> quindi con ubuntu non si puo' fare???
[23:10] <offo> ok ok
[23:10] <offo> ricevuto
[23:11] <offo> cmq il router si collega al pc esattamente come una chiavetta, con un cavetto usb
[23:12] <jester-> offo: il router ethernet non ha problemi, il tuo per la tv cavo non so devi sentire il 187
[23:12] <offo> ok ok
[23:12] <offo> grazie mille
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2015-04-29-#ubuntu-es
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[01:47] <ellen> hola
[01:48] <ellen> necesito una ayuda urgente
[01:48] <ellen> necesito saber como puedo ver el historial que se guarda en el dns de los exploradores de internet que los abren en incognito
[07:22] * merrick Bue..
[14:12] <janier> hola
[14:14] <janier> quiero aprender a programar pero no se por donde empezar
[14:14] <janier> esta c, c++, php, java etc
[14:14] <janier> cual me recomiendan
[14:27] <guampa> janier: si no sabes ingles, probablemente python y luego C
[14:28] <janier> ok gracias
[14:28] <guampa> igual es un tema que mejor lo preguntes en #ubuntu-es-cafe
[14:28] <guampa> x nada
[14:28] <janier> mira vivo en colombia en el pacifico colombiano
[14:28] <janier> no se maneja nada de sofware libre
[14:29] <janier> yo estoy aprendiendo a trabajar en el
[14:29] <guampa> ta bueno eso
[14:29] <janier> quiero empezar hacer un proyaecto para los centros educativos
[14:29] <janier> en los niños y jovenes, pero no se que distribucion de linux
[14:29] <janier> me pueda servir para eso
[14:29] <guampa> ubuntu esta bien, o mint
[14:30] <janier> en el cual ellos aprendan a traajar y conocer linux
[14:30] <guampa> depende tambien el hardware que dispongas
[14:30] <janier> de una manera agradable y al mismo tiempo conoscan
[14:30] <janier> son niños menores de 10 años
[14:30] <janier> ubuntu esta bien para ellos
[14:30] <janier> o hay otra distribucion
[14:31] <guampa> yo creo que si, mint alternativamente
[14:31] <guampa> que es practicamente lo mismo
[14:32] <guampa> volviendo a la cuestion de ingles, mint tiene relativamente menos soporte en español tanto en la web y en irc que ubuntu
[14:33] <guampa> es para tener en cuenta siempre en lo que uses, cuan facil vas a poder acceder a consultas y material de ayuda en internet
[14:34] <guampa> si usas un sistema operativo, lenguaje o cualquier otra cosa, va a ser muy diferente la situacion cuando tengas un problema o alguna consulta, la cantidad de personas que lo usen
[14:39] <janier> ok
[14:39] <janier> entonces voy a trabajar con ubuntu entonces
[14:41] <janier> este proyecto que quiero hacer, en donde me puedo capacitarme
[14:41] <janier> con toda la informacion
[14:41] <janier> que paginas me recomiendan
[14:41] <guampa> no tengo idea realmente
[14:42] <guampa> yo buscaria sobre ubuntu y linux en la educacion, pero paginas concretas no conozco
[14:42] <janier> ok
[14:43] <janier> usted, ya es avanzado en software libre
[14:46] <guampa> algo, si
[14:47] <janier> y como fue su proceso
[14:47] <janier> de estudio
[14:47] <guampa> bueno, fue bastante determinante el idioma ingles
[14:48] <janier> eso me sirve para yo amprender tambien
[14:48] <guampa> y fueron muchos años, lo uso en forma permanente desde hace 10 años y el primer contacto fue hace 20 años
[14:49] <janier> pero eres ingeniero o tecnologo en informatica
[14:49] <guampa> los primeros 10 años fueron progresivamente menos dificiles, pero al comienzo fue bastante complicado, ademas en esa epoca habia menos material y el sistema estaba menos desarrollado
[14:49] <guampa> soy un aficionado, en terminos de titulo
[14:49] <guampa> pero me desempeño en la profesion
[14:49] <janier> de que lugar eres
[14:50] <guampa> unite a #ubuntu-es-cafe janier
[14:50] <guampa> porque este canal esta reservado para soporte tecnico, ese otro es mas adecuado para seguir la charla
[14:51] <guampa> janier: para unirte a #ubuntu-es-cafe tendrias que escribir una linea que sea asi /join #ubuntu-es-cafe
[14:52] <guampa> /join #ubuntu-es-cafe
[14:53] <janier> ok
[14:56] <janier> ya estoy conectado
[14:56] <janier> en ubuntu-es-cafe
[14:56] <guampa> no, no veo que hayas entrado
[14:56] <guampa> la linea esa de /join es para tipearla aca mismo en el chat
[14:57] <guampa> los comandos de irc se escriben como cualquier texto normal de chat, pero empiezan con /
[14:57] <janier> me falto escribir
[14:58] <guampa> puede que le hayas errado en el nombre del canal tambien, en ese caso uno entra a un canal inexistente y el canal se crea automaticamente, pero no hay nadie ahi excepto uno
[14:58] <guampa> me ha pasado a vecews
[15:00] <janier> lo escribi asi como me dijo
[15:00] <janier> pero no veo nada
[15:00] <guampa> intenta copiar y pegar el texto que yo escribi
[15:01] <guampa> tiene que ser una linea que conste unicamente del comando /join y el nombre del canal
[15:08] <janier> anier_ establece modo +i janier_
[15:08] <janier> * join :No such channel
[15:08] <janier> eso me aparece
[17:00] <thezotz> hola
[17:00] <thezotz> alguien podria ayudarme por favor
[17:01] <thezotz> soy novato en la instalacion de ubuntu y he tenido algunos problemas
[17:04] <merrick> si no dices cuales creo que nadie te podra ayudar...
[17:04] <thezotz> ahh ok
[17:04] <thezotz> gracias
[17:06] <thezotz> estoy tratando de instalar ubuntu junto a windows 8.1 y al iniciar la instalacion, despues de un momento, me sale un mensaje que el disco duro puede estar defectuoso, que el lente del cdrom puede estar sucio y total que no he podido hacer nada
[17:07] <thezotz> he tratado de instalar ubuntu y linux mint y ninguno de los dos he podido
[17:07] <merrick> intentalo con un usb
[17:08] <JustCurious> alguien ha probado el Visual Studio Code?
[17:08] <thezotz> ok
[17:10] <merrick> o puede ser algo del UEFI si el ordenador es nuevo
[17:10] <thezotz> lo raro es que instale elementary os pero no me gusto y lo desinstale borrando las particiones hechas por medio de administrador de discos de windows y luego de eso comenzo a saltar el problema que comento
[17:11] <thezotz> he desactivado el uefi tal como he visto en algun tuto
[17:13] <merrick> create un usb del SO que quieras e intenta instalarlo
[17:14] <thezotz> ok
[17:14] <thezotz> gracias
[17:14] <thezotz> voy aprobar
[17:14] <merrick> d nada.
[18:31] <successus> salud o/
[21:53] <successus> salud hasta otro rato o/
[21:53] <andreas_> Hola! Necesito ayuda. Puedo descargar Spotify en Xubuntu y utilizarlo?
[21:54] <mimecar> ¿cuál es la duda concreta andreas_ ?
[21:55] <andreas_> lo que dije, supongo que se tiene que hacer a traves de wine no? n
[21:56] <mimecar> hay una versión nativa
[21:57] <mimecar> creo que no tiene todas las opciones
[21:58] <andreas_> ah! no sabia
[21:58] <mimecar> https://www.spotify.com/es/download/previews/
[21:58] <andreas_> ahora miro gracias
[22:07] <andreas_> soy nuevo en esto de xubuntu y quiero saber como se utiliza el terminal
[22:07] <andreas_> supongo que mucho se configura a traves del terminal no?
[22:23] <keynes> ¿Por qué usar spotify?
[22:23] <keynes> adrian, con sudo halt.
[22:29] <adrian> keynes: q????
[22:30] <keynes> adrian, me equivoqué de canal xD.
[22:30] <keynes> creí que estaba en un canal que no era de Ubuntu y me sorprendí porque hablaban de Ubuntu en el canal que no era de Ubuntu (según creí) :p.
[22:31] * keynes le da un gatito a adrian
[22:31] * keynes dibuja el logo de Ubuntu al gatito
[23:17] <tmv> Hola, necesito ayuda, tengo ubuntu 14.04 LTS, intento actualizar para la ultima version pero al abrir el gestor de actualizaciones me aparece algo sobre "instalación parcial", ya intente desinstalar todos los repositorios no oficiales y sigue igual
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[06:27] <lazyPower> stub: http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~lazypower/charms/bundles/sentiment-analysis/bundle/view/head:/bundles.yaml
[06:35] <jcastro_> tvansteenburgh, can we kick off tests for this? http://review.juju.solutions/review/1087
[06:36] <jcastro_> I tried to click the button but it didn't do anything for me
[06:36] <jcastro_> robert would like to test his latest pushes
[06:37] <tvansteenburgh> jcastro: kicked
[07:38] <jcastro_> bcsaller, https://askubuntu.com/questions/611564/how-does-juju-get-the-private-address-of-a-node
[07:59] <mbruzek> jamespage Please send me a link to the actions document.
[08:15] <Bardhi> Hello everyone. I am new with juju and maas and im trying to get that installed and running in our company. I managed to get installed maas and juju, but when i want to deploy a service with juju it gets stucked in "allocating units" and it doesnt advance from there. It remains yellow it doesnt become green. If someone could help me how to solve this i wold appreciate it. Thank you
[09:15] <mwak> hi
[09:20] <ludvigx> anyone got a sec to help me out ? Trying to deploy the latests trusty/ceph-36 via juju, and it returns a agent-state-info: 'hook failed: "mon-relation-changed"' every single time.
[09:21] <ludvigx> or is this more just a ceph related question ? not sure :)
[09:34] <lazyPower> cory_fu: another fyi re: sync-watch - i'm getting consistent errors when watching subordinates
[09:47] <lazyPower> https://github.com/juju/plugins/issues/56
[09:53] <Bardhi|2> ello i am trying to deploy some services with juju but it gets stucked on allocating units and services are not deployed. i just started using juju and i am not an expert in using it and i dont know very well how it all works but i
[09:58] <g3naro> hello! is anyone here able to help noob
[09:59] <g3naro> root@falcon:~/.juju# juju deploy apache
[09:59] <g3naro> ERROR environment is not bootstrapped
[10:04] <hazmat> lazyPower: any presentation deck you recommend for giving a presentation on juju?
[10:07] <lazyPower> hazmat: i do, 1 sec
[10:07] <lazyPower> do you want the raw deck, pdf, or speakerdeck link?
[10:07] <lazyPower> hazmat: https://speakerdeck.com/chuckbutler/service-orchestration-with-juju
[10:08] <hazmat> lazyPower: looking, thanks
[10:10] <hazmat> lazyPower: that looks solid, thanks
[10:10] <hazmat> i'm giving a presentation on juju in a few hrs, and my decks are moldy ;-)
[10:12] <lazyPower> :) want the .odp file to make tweaks?
[10:12] <hazmat> lazyPower: that would be great
[10:12] <lazyPower> hazmat: the biggest change is juju is the modelling language, and not "the orchestrator" - we're enabling orchestration through the language model
[10:13] <lazyPower> https://www.dropbox.com/s/cvh31c2vrjbsrgm/service-orchestration.odp?dl=0
[10:13] <lazyPower> hazmat: ^
[10:13] <hazmat> g3naro: you have to bootstrap an environment before deploying
[10:14] <hazmat> lazyPower: that distinction seems subtle, so juju is not an orchestrator but a language runtime for orchestrator?
[10:14] <lazyPower> yeah, basically its a universal language to describe your infra as SOA
[10:24] <cory_fu> lazyPower: You and your damned subordinates. ;) Thanks for opening the issue
[10:25] <lazyPower> :3
[10:25] <cory_fu> marcoceppi: Where was that tool you showed for rendering a bundle svg?
[10:25] <marcoceppi> cory_fu: svg.juju.solutions
[10:26] <cory_fu> Hrm. No form? How do you post the bundle?
[10:26] <lazyPower> (۶ૈ ᵒ̌ Дᵒ̌)۶ૈ=͟͟͞͞ ⌨ GIVE US THE KNOWLEDGE MARCO
[10:27] <marcoceppi> cory_fu: read the instructions?
[10:27] <cory_fu> It says post, but there's no form to post
[10:27] <cory_fu> What am I, a wizard?
[10:27] <marcoceppi> yes, use HTTP to post to it
[10:27] <marcoceppi> or http://svg.juju.solutions/?bundle-file=http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~bigdata-dev/charms/trusty/apache-analytics-sql-hue/trunk/download/head:/bundles.yaml-20150420030716-vycsb0pcenhst8wt-1/bundles.yaml
[10:27] <marcoceppi> cory_fu: I thought you knew kung fu
[10:27] <marcoceppi> cory_fu: or http://svg.juju.solutions/?bundle=cs:bundle/openstack-telemetry-31
[10:28] <marcoceppi> https://github.com/marcoceppi/svg.juju.solutions
[10:28] <marcoceppi> no instructions, sorry, forgot I didn't write them yet
[10:28] <marcoceppi> still a WIP
[10:28] <cory_fu> Fair enough
[10:29] <marcoceppi> cory_fu: I'll be adding caching and faster processing (plus embedding SVG so it downloads more cleanly) soon
[10:31] <rogpeppe> jam: hiya
[10:31] <jam> rogpeppe: /wave
[10:32] <rogpeppe> jam: just wanted to give you a head's up regarding some changes we intend to make to the juju/charm repo
[10:32] <jam> sure, what's up?
[10:32] <rogpeppe> jam: we've had some cyclic dependency issues between the charm repo and charmstore
[10:32] <rogpeppe> jam: i made a little doc to explain things to ourselves: https://docs.google.com/document/d/10Ol5g2T688fih2wBTDk6ZO5h2I8dXjVI3hWTSpMaUew/edit
[10:33] <rogpeppe> jam: after some discussion, we've decided that solution 3 is the best way forward
[10:34] <rogpeppe> jam: YMMV so any feedback would be good
[10:35] <rogpeppe> jam: essentially this means moving the charmrepo package into a new repository. for juju-core, the implication should just be a simple import path rewrite with no other code changes required
[10:36] <jam> rogpeppe: what is "publicly depends on" vs "depends on" ?
[10:36] <jam> (it has a public API that uses a type defined in the other repo?)
[10:36] <rogpeppe> jam: yes
[10:36] <rogpeppe> jam: you said it much more neatly than i was trying to :)
[10:38] <rogpeppe> jam: this is also a possible precedent for a pattern that we might use more generally and eventually something that might be worthwhile for juju-core to use (so that juju Go clients don't have to incur all juju-core's dependencies)
[10:39] <jam> rogpeppe: so I'd like to understand why cycles in tests is ok
[10:39] <jam> because you have to set up the underlying objects to test against?
[10:40] <rogpeppe> jam: because it's possible to make forward progress even when there are cycles in tests
[10:40] <rogpeppe> jam: in the worst case, you might need to temporarily disable some tests
[10:41] <rogpeppe> jam: whereas in the situation we were in (with cycles in exported APIs) we literally couldn't make forward progress without some really nasty hackery (including charm.v6 needing to import charm.v5 in tests)
[10:41] <jam> rogpeppe: so its not *actually* possible to upgrade a version and have all the tests pass
[10:42] <rogpeppe> jam: it should be in most cases
[10:42] <rogpeppe> jam: you'll end up with the tests importing two versions of the package, but that is usually ok
[10:43] <jam> So charmstore is the actual server internals code, csclient is a consumer of the public API, what is charmrepo ?
[10:43] <jam> "charm" is the core data structure, right?
[10:44] <rogpeppe> jam: charmrepo is the API that juju uses, that layers onto csclient
[10:44] <rogpeppe> jam: yeah
[10:44] <rogpeppe> jam: charmrepo implements local repository handling too
[10:45] <jam> and params is shared implementation of types exported and imported between the server and clients?
[10:45] <rogpeppe> jam: charmrepo already exists, BTW: http://godoc.org/gopkg.in/juju/charm.v5/charmrepo
[10:45] <rogpeppe> jam: yes
[10:45] <rogpeppe> jam: similar to juju-core's params package
[10:49] <rogpeppe> jam: ha, this probably isn't the right channel for this discussion - i had intended #juju-dev
[10:55] <philip_stoev> Hello, how does one deploy a charm using uncommitted changes in a local bzr repository?
[10:55] <philip_stoev> I am using this command:
[10:55] <philip_stoev> juju deploy --repository=. --config galera.yaml local:trusty/galera-cluster
[10:55] <philip_stoev> and the charm being deployed does not contain the local uncommitted changes
[11:08] <rogpeppe> philip_stoev: AFAIK the juju deploy command doesn't know about the bzr repo at all
[11:08] <rogpeppe> philip_stoev: so it should just see all the files as they are (including uncommitted changes)
[11:09] <rogpeppe> philip_stoev: what does it do if you try to deploy the charm when there's no .bzr directory at all (for instance, move it out of the way or make a copy of the charm dir without it) ?
[11:09] <rogpeppe> philip_stoev: it's possible that this is an existing bug with juju deploy with respect to local charms actually
[11:10] <rogpeppe> philip_stoev: have you already previously deployed that charm to the environment?
[11:10] <philip_stoev> I found out that it is safer to destroy the environment every time. Otherwise it seems I am always getting a cached version of the charm
[11:11] <philip_stoev> Actually committing to the local repository did not help
[11:12] <philip_stoev> so, with a fresh environment
[11:12] <philip_stoev> I am still getting files from the Charm Store
[11:12] <philip_stoev> Even though I provided --repository=. local:trusty/galera-cluster to juju deploy
[11:13] <philip_stoev> Does juju have some local cache that I need to purge?
[11:14] <philip_stoev> I have no ~/.juju/charmcache on the local machine
[11:17] <philip_stoev> --upgrade has been deprecated
[11:17] <philip_stoev> so what is left apart from committing every revision to the charm store?
[11:22] <rogpeppe> philip_stoev: i think the problem is the revision number of the local charm
[11:23] <rogpeppe> philip_stoev: i encountered this problem with gocharm, and worked around it
[11:23] <philip_stoev> I think I got what the problem is, for some reason I had multiple copies of the charm locally, so --repository=. was picking the wrong directory
[11:23] <rogpeppe> philip_stoev: if you create a "revision" file and increase the revision number in it each time, it may fix your issue
[11:23] <philip_stoev> thanks
[11:24] <rogpeppe> philip_stoev: ah, that can also be a problem
[11:24] <rogpeppe> philip_stoev: the local repository logic is weird
[11:24] <rogpeppe> philip_stoev: it ignores the name of the directory and just looks at the charm name in the metadata.yaml
[11:25] <rogpeppe> philip_stoev: and then takes the one with the highest revision, or the last alphabetically by directory name
[11:25] <philip_stoev> I was able to make it pick up the right files ...
[11:25] <philip_stoev> so I am good
[11:25] <rogpeppe> philip_stoev: cool
[11:25] <philip_stoev> thanks for the help
[11:26] <philip_stoev> I have a more conceptual question regarding Juju
[11:27] <philip_stoev> Assuming I have started a service, e.g. MySQL , is it a strict juju requirement for other services to connect to it only through juju relations and interfaces?
[11:28] <philip_stoev> If not, then it seems it is difficult for the user to simply obtain the IP of the service and then use that IP as needed
[11:28] <philip_stoev> juju status seems to be the easiest way
[11:28] <philip_stoev> as it is difficult to have juju create a database and spit out the complete connection URL
[11:28] <philip_stoev> unlesss relations are used
[13:18] <lukasa_work> Is there any way I can force Juju to run a hook?
[13:18] <lukasa_work> neutron-api seems to have rendered an incorrect neutron.conf, and I'd like it to re-render
[13:25] <cory_fu> lukasa_work: Easiest way would be to change and reset a config value. If you don't want to do that, you *might* be able to manually run the config-changed hook using `juju run`
[13:26] <cory_fu> But I'm not at all certain that won't cause you more issues
[13:26] <cory_fu> It depends heavily on how the charm is implemented.
[13:47] <plars> So I got python-jujuclient upgraded and now juju-deployer tries to run at least, but I'm hitting this now. Any ideas?
[13:47] <plars> https://www.irccloud.com/pastebin/VUvzEJIo
[14:55] <g3naro> juju deploy apache
[14:55] <g3naro> ERROR cannot resolve charm URL: "cs:apache"
[14:55] <g3naro> any ideas?
[14:55] <lukasa_work> The charm is called apache2. =)
[14:55] <g3naro> ohhh
[14:55] <g3naro> :D
[14:56] <g3naro> what what!! first lxc-local deployed
[14:58] <jcastro_> g3naro, \o/
[15:18] <g3naro> but what is the defualt user/pass :(
[15:22] <roadmr> g3naro: use juju authorised-keys to add an ssh key to your containers, then you can ssh into them, no need to use user/password
[15:22] <roadmr> g3naro: https://jujucharms.com/docs/stable/howto-authorised-keys
[15:33] <g3naro> roadmr, thanks! looking now
[15:34] <g3naro> i found in .juju/environments/local.jenv
[15:34] <g3naro> it has correct ssh key but still giving me denied
[15:35] <roadmr> g3naro: how are you doing ssh into the container?
[15:40] <g3naro> ssh -i ssh -i juju_id_rsa.pub [email protected]
[15:40] <g3naro> also without the juju@
[15:40] <g3naro> anhd without .pub of course
[15:41] <g3naro> ssh -i juju_id_rsa 10.0.3.167
[15:41] <g3naro> ohh its ubuntu@
[15:41] <g3naro> what hwat :D
[15:42] <jrwren> juju ssh is your friend :)
[15:42] <g3naro> juju ssh ?
[15:43] <g3naro> oh leet
[15:43] <g3naro> is anyone running juju for prod
[15:43] <stub> tvansteenburgh: I will need to add Adam's actions in a separate branch, as it needs to be taught how to connect to a cluster with authentication enabled.
[16:32] <tvansteenburgh> stub: ack
[17:32] <Aligner> Hi, if I upgrade charms with juju upgrade-charm, do I need to redeploy everything for the upgraded version to take affect? I am trying to upgrade some charms but I can't tell if the applications are newer version
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[01:38] <AndroidKris> Question, Is there any way to make apt-get act like say...uTorrent? Pulling from multiple mirrors?
[01:39] <Unit193> ...Bye.
[01:41] <Unit193> AndroidKris: Maybe look into apt-p2p or mirror:// urls?
[01:41] <AndroidKris> Are you asking me a question with that last part? the "urls ?" part.
[01:42] <AndroidKris> Not sure I am reading it correctly.
[01:43] <Unit193> That is to say, perhaps you should try looking into both of those methods.
[01:44] <AndroidKris> ah, "mirror://url"
[01:44] <AndroidKris> as a method of it's own?
[01:45] <Unit193> deb mirror://mirrors.ubuntu.com/US.txt trusty main restricted universe multiverse for example
[01:47] <AndroidKris> ah, gotcha.
[01:48] <AndroidKris> Thanks for the tips...Off to see my old friend Google.
[01:50] <Unit193> :D
[01:53] <AndroidKris> love me some packages.debian.org too.
[01:53] <Unit193> Don't mix Debian and Ubuntu repos.
[01:53] <AndroidKris> Of course not.
[01:54] <AndroidKris> Repos, may be different, but a lot of the packages are the same.
[02:00] <AndroidKris> dang crappy connection
[02:02] <AndroidKris> See why I'm looking for something to help with my apt-get? I've got a weeks worth of updates to install...can't be done with this equipment.
[02:02] <Unit193> Another question, got another location you can download updates from?
[02:03] <Unit193> http://docs.xubuntu.org/1404/offline-packages.html
[02:03] <AndroidKris> not at the moment.
[02:05] <AndroidKris> I have a sattelite internet connection that gets throttled during the day. Between midnight and 5am, I have up to 12mbps down speeds though, and can normally get apt to work fine. However, my problem is, I don't want to stay up that late all the time to check for updates and such.
[02:06] <AndroidKris> I'm wondering if there is a way I can set apt to download normal updates on a schedule without needing my input.
[02:16] <nicky1> I installed xunbuntu 15.04, but the network manager icon doesn't show the secure icon when connected to a vpn. anyway to fix this? thanks
[03:38] <Eight-BitLink> Hey all, quick nitpick question
[03:39] <Eight-BitLink> I'm missing the minimize and maximize buttons in GTK-window-decorator. They vanished after the update to 15.04. Any ideas? My laptop still runs 14.10, with the same theme.
[03:40] <Unit193> Eight-BitLink: Look in xfwm4-settings and see what's there?
[03:40] <Unit193> They're there for me of course.
[03:42] <Eight-BitLink> Alright, that's weird.
[03:43] <Eight-BitLink> Using xfwm4 --replace to disable compiz temporarily, and setting the theme for xfwm4 to the same theme fixed it.
[03:45] <Eight-BitLink> Thanks for the suggestion!
[03:45] <Unit193> Sure.
[03:45] <Eight-BitLink> Been banging my head against a wall looking for a solution.
[03:45] <Unit193> Also, for basic compositing, compton?
[04:01] <ensi> hello, what is/are the xubuntu14 theme(s) that is/are installed out of the box?
[04:02] <Unit193> Generally speaking, shimmer themes. Specific, Greybird, Numix, etc.
[04:03] <ensi> are those for xfce or just gtk?
[04:04] <Unit193> xfwm+gtk2/gtk3.
[04:04] <Unit193> unity and metacity too it seems.
[04:08] <ensi> thanks!
[05:53] <pragomer> how can I change that xubuntu always shows isolinux/syslinux menu (with that I have to press "esc")
[07:39] <LeMike> Hello. I got the nvidia-common driver successfully installed but there is still a white screen everytime after I lock the screen. This occurs even when only one monitor is connected. I remember some alternative session manager of lock screen in xubuntu but don't remember the name. Can you help me here?
[07:39] <LeMike> (currently it is xflock4)
[07:41] <ensi> LeMike: whats the real question, you want to lock the screen or what?
[07:42] <Unit193> light-locker?
[07:43] <ensi> xscreensaver can lock the screen too
[07:57] <LeMike> Thanks ensi and Unit193 . I tried both of them but neither terminal nor keyboard shortcut activates them. Just running somewhere in the background but not actually locking the screen. dunno what went wrong here.
[13:18] <kraczk> hey guys, what's the default display manager in 15.04?
[13:19] <brainwash> kraczk: it's still lightdm + lightdm-gtk-greeter
[13:20] <brainwash> lightdm-gtk-greeter is responsible for the visual appearance
[13:20] <kraczk> brainwash: thanks man, is there any way to configure it? dpkg-reconfigure doesn't seem to do anything
[13:21] <brainwash> there should be a new entry in the settings manager to configure it
[13:21] <brainwash> or, what do you want to configure? change to another DM?
[13:22] <kraczk> for now not, maybe just change the appearance
[13:26] <ochosi> kraczk: that's lightdm-gtk-greeter-settings then. you might have to install it
[13:27] <brainwash> it's not installed by default?
[13:28] <kraczk> looks like it is, thanks for your help :)
[13:55] <oiu> Have I messed something up or does the main VirtualBox window in Xubuntu 15.04 have an ugly white line at the top of it? Is it a theme issue?
[14:11] <bosnjak> since I can't make light-locker not lock my screen after 10 minutes (a known issue), and the music stops playing when it locks the screen, is it a good idea to remove it completely and install xscreensaver? Can this have some consequences that I'm unaware of now?
[15:02] <brainwash> bosnjak: please read http://xubuntu.org/news/screen-locking-in-xubuntu-14-04/
[15:08] <bosnjak> brainwash: great, thanks! I'll switch to xscreensaver for multiple reasons then. Is it enought to: apt-get remove --purge light-locker && apt-get install xscreensaver
[15:09] <brainwash> should be enough
[15:09] <bosnjak> brainwash: thanks :)
[15:18] <Christopher-Were> Hi, I was hoping someone could help me. I'm running Audacity 2.0.6 on Xubuntu 15.05 and the playback is very fast and distoreted. Can anybody help please?
[15:21] <Christopher-Were> Is anybody even here?
[15:22] <bynarie> hm i use audacity, but havent had any problem
[15:23] <Christopher-Were> surely you must know if it. I've had it for the last 3 xubuntu upgrades
[15:24] <bynarie> and its only messing up on 15.04?
[15:25] <Christopher-Were> i meant the last 3 ubuntus
[15:25] <bynarie> but the problems only started on 15.o4 right?
[15:27] <bynarie> you should probably update to the newest audacity
[15:27] <Christopher-Were> not quite. I'm gonna restart. See if that works. Thanks for helping though.
[15:54] <oiu> Sorry, I forgot to come back after rebooting. Does anyone else get an ugly white line at the top of VirtualBox in 15.04? Is it an issue with Greybird?
[16:15] <holstein> oiu: the issue is not present with another theme?
[16:17] <oiu> holstein: It looks odd with all themes, but I'm wondering if this is because all included themes are flawed (or because VirtualBox is flawed).
[16:18] <holstein> oiu: so, is the issue only presnt with the greybird theme? i think that answer will help you answer the quesitons you have, regarding, if its an issue with the greybird theme, or not
[16:18] <oiu> No, it's not.
[16:18] <oiu> Not present with just Greybird, I mean.
[16:20] <holstein> i would try live iso's in vbox.. see if its an issue with only xfce, xubuntu.. etc
[16:20] <oiu> Will do.
[16:20] <oiu> I know it's not present in Ubuntu with Unity because of the global menu bar thing.
[16:20] <holstein> i would try with and without compositing.. i would look at what graphics driver is in use.. i would try and apply the virtualbox guest additions, and make certain i am getting the GPU performance i want/need//expect
[16:21] <oiu> Okay, thank you! I'll give it all a go.
[16:21] <holstein> oiu: ubuntu, with unity, requires 3d.. so, that will have compositing.. could be, you dont have 3d setup as the VM or host is expecting needing
[16:54] <kulelu88> Is there any way to better manage open windows in the bottom/top window manager? I have 2 screens open and after opening a number of programs, the bottom window manager gets cluttered
[16:55] <Luyin> kulelu88: what do you mean by "top/bottom" window manager?
[16:56] <kulelu88> Luyin: I think the default (when installing xubuntu 14.04) is a top window/application manager. you know, that toolbar that tells you what programs are open
[16:56] <KW4HK> panel
[16:57] <kulelu88> exactly!
[16:57] <kulelu88> it's cluttered now. I always wished I could make each screen have its own panel manager.
[16:57] <Luyin> kulelu88: open the window button settings and enable "grouping: always"
[16:58] <Luyin> then uncheck "show windows from all workspaces"
[16:59] <kulelu88> you are a legend Luyin !!!!
[16:59] <kulelu88> I just unchecked show windows from all monitors and now each screen stores its own stuff!
[17:00] <Luyin> yw kulelu88
[18:16] <Christopher-Were> Hi does anyone know how I can run a script file from Thunar in Xubuntu 15.04 without opening it in mousepad?
[18:18] <KW4HK> custom action?
[18:19] <Christopher-Were> what's custom action?
[18:20] <KW4HK> http://docs.xfce.org/xfce/thunar/custom-actions
[18:21] <Christopher-Were> That sounds awefully complicated considering no other file manager has this problem
[18:23] <Christopher-Were> in a terminal i just do ./command
[18:26] <kulelu88> why do you need to open it in mousepad?
[18:26] <Christopher-Were> I don't want to open it in mouspad, I want to execute the script
[18:26] <KW4HK> that's probably his default for .sh files.
[18:27] <Christopher-Were> yes, it probably is the default for .sh, how can i change the default so that it runs the script
[18:27] <brainwash> Christopher-Were: http://git.xfce.org/xfce/thunar/commit/?id=b385bcf7c856fdc0a63b5f91a6d4053a7d22347e
[18:27] <kulelu88> that's weird. ./run.sh should run and not open in mousepad
[18:27] <brainwash> please read the commit message
[18:28] <mrkramps> Christopher-Were, you need to change permission of script file
[18:28] <mrkramps> allow execution, or in terminal:$ chmod +x scriptfile
[18:29] <Christopher-Were> no easy way to do this without dropping into the terminal?
[18:29] <mrkramps> Christopher-Were, file properties
[18:30] <Christopher-Were> it gives an error message
[18:30] <kulelu88> oh you want to run the script without terminal? yeah that will be possible also. Just make the .sh file executable
[18:30] <mrkramps> Christopher-Were, are you expecting us to guess the exact error message!?
[18:31] <kulelu88> then right-click should give you the option to execute file
[18:31] <Christopher-Were> please don't be sarky. I'm trying to follow and instructions and rely them at the same time
[18:32] <Christopher-Were> The error says Cannot set permissions on symlinks.
[18:32] <Christopher-Were> Do you want to skip it?
[18:32] <mrkramps> ok, so you try to change the permission of a symbolic link
[18:32] <mrkramps> you need to change permission of the actual file
[18:33] <mrkramps> the file properties dialog should also show you which file a link points to
[18:38] <Christopher-Were> Yeah this is a problem with most of my portable apps
[18:38] <Christopher-Were> For some reason all my portable apps broke in an upgrade to 15.04
[18:41] <kulelu88> portable apps?
[18:41] <Christopher-Were> or portable binaries
[18:42] <kulelu88> both 64-bit?
[18:42] <Christopher-Were> what?
[18:42] <kulelu88> nvm
[18:42] <mrkramps> Christopher-Were, which app?
[18:43] <Christopher-Were> I got a copy of the latest Super Tux Cart which cam as a portable binary, I used to be able to run it on 14.10 and I can run it on Ubuntu MATE 15.04 but not on Xubuntu 15.04
[18:44] <Christopher-Were> Sometimes they're also called static binaries
[18:44] <mrkramps> Christopher-Were, and it the problem on Xubuntu is you are not able to execute the start script?
[18:45] <Christopher-Were> The problem is only on Xubutnu 15.04 and I can't run a simple .sh script
[18:45] <brainwash> yes, thunar 1.6.6 does not execute shell scripts anymore. did you open my link?
[18:46] <brainwash> and read the commit message?
[18:46] <Christopher-Were> yes but it was difficult to understand
[18:46] <kulelu88> underlying ubuntu would not prevent executing a simple .sh script
[18:46] <Christopher-Were> some binaries can also be ececuted
[18:46] <Christopher-Were> executed
[18:46] <brainwash> "For people wanting the old, unsafe behaviour there is a new boolean option called "misc-exec-shell-scripts-by-default" that can be created and set to TRUE using xfconf-query or the Xfce settings editor."
[18:46] <kulelu88> unless what brainwash says is the new system rule
[18:47] <brainwash> open xfce4-settings-editor and create the new property "misc-exec-shell-scripts-by-default" in the thunar channel
[18:48] <brainwash> well, I haven't tested it myself
[18:48] <mrkramps> hm, this explains a lot =)
[18:49] <Christopher-Were> it says that properties have to start with a / character
[18:50] <mrkramps> guess what, type "/misc-exec-shell-scripts-by-default"
[18:51] <brainwash> yea
[18:51] <brainwash> http://docs.xfce.org/xfce/thunar/hidden-settings has been updated too
[18:52] <mrkramps> brainwash, can you still execute when script is embedded in a .desktop file?
[18:52] <Christopher-Were> All of this is not very user friendly at all.
[18:52] <brainwash> mrkramps: I guess so
[18:53] <brainwash> Christopher-Were: I agree somewhat
[18:53] <brainwash> it's a bit confusing at first
[18:54] <Christopher-Were> It's not adding the property
[18:54] <Christopher-Were> is it a boolean or a string
[18:54] <brainwash> boolean
[18:55] <mrkramps> ok, confirmed … desktop files still work
[18:55] <brainwash> alternatively, run "xfconf-query --channel thunar --property /misc-exec-shell-scripts-by-default --create --type bool --set true"
[18:55] <Christopher-Were> it only works in some cases
[18:56] <Christopher-Were> I've got somewhere to be now, so I'll have to go. I hate it when you have to waste a few hours fixing something as stupid and as simple as this
[18:57] <kulelu88> that's why you stick with LTS versions, Chris24
[18:57] <kulelu88> Christ
[18:57] <kulelu88> oh he left
[18:59] <brainwash> this hidden setting could be exposed in the settings window of thunar, but someone needs to request it -> file a feature request
[19:41] <xabbix> How can I upgrade from 14.10 to 15.04?
[19:42] <mrkramps> use the update manager
[19:42] <xabbix> it doesn't offer me to update to 15.04
[19:43] <mrkramps> did you change the settings for new version releases?
[19:43] <xabbix> checking
[19:44] <xabbix> mrkramps, is that under updates -> pre-released updates?
[19:44] <mrkramps> xabbix, nope
[19:45] <mrkramps> Notify me of a new Ubuntu version: For any new version
[19:45] <xabbix> ah, i have that marked. yes.
[19:49] <mrkramps> xabbix, you may also try to check manually for new release in a terminal with :$ update-manager -c
[19:50] <xabbix> mrkramps, well during my tests i've marked to receive unofficial updates and basically marked most of the checkboxes on the update manager. After rebooting my laptop is showing a blank, black screen.
[19:50] <xabbix> so... that's not good...
[19:51] <mrkramps> xabbix, the proposed sources might be an issue
[19:52] <xabbix> mrkramps, yeah not sure what to do now. I don't have anything of importance installed, might just install a fresh 15.10 copy.
[19:53] <xabbix> The reason I wanted to update in the first place is because I have some very annoying display issues on my Lenovo Yoga 3. menu bars are constantly disappearing (and partially showing when I hover over them)
[19:53] <mrkramps> not my general recommendation to solve all problems with a fresh install, but might be the easiest way to solve your problems
[19:53] <xabbix> So I'm hoping some of these were fixed
[19:54] <mrkramps> xabbix, you should try a live system first
[19:54] <mrkramps> things might get worse =D
[19:54] <xabbix> Good idea ;)
[19:54] <xabbix> thanks
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[07:13] <MooDoo> morning all
[07:23] <diplo> Morning all
[07:27] <SuperMat1> morning
[07:29] <diplo> Not seen you about these parts for a while SuperMat1
[07:33] <brobostigon> morning boys and girls.
[07:48] <MooDoo> yay SuperMat1 must be all the rackers goodness he's been getting over the past few months
[07:48] <SuperMat1> ???
[07:49] <SuperMat1> oh yes, I haven't been around much cos I'm very busy :(
[08:10] <davmor2> Morning all
[08:14] <bashrc_> tzag
[08:17] <popey> morning
[08:21] <foobarry> i ran out of RAM and my terminal fonts are corrupted at only one size
[08:22] <foobarry> ctrl- fixes it, but when i return to the regular size it's still broken!
[09:02] <JamesTait> Good morning all; happy World Wish Day! :-D
[09:03] <davmor2> JamesTait: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m1NeogMh1JI
[09:04] <JamesTait> davmor2, so... you wish you could buy me a coke?
[09:06] <davmor2> JamesTait: no I wish the world would just get along :D
[09:07] <zmoylan-pi> the world does get along, it's just the innocent bystanders that get caught up...
[09:07] <brobostigon> is there a way of pushing irssi highlights to my xmpp server?
[09:24] <diplo> http://cybione.org/~irssi-xmpp/
[09:24] <diplo> ?
[09:25] <diplo> Doesn't seem to have been updated in a while though
[09:25] <zmoylan-pi> http://www.theguardian.com/technology/2015/apr/29/apple-ipad-fail-grounds-few-dozen-american-airline-flights
[09:25] <diplo> brobostigon: https://gist.github.com/markhibberd/5315470
[09:26] <brobostigon> ty diplo
[09:31] <brobostigon> diplo: is that the same as the irssi-plugin-xmpp package?
[09:33] <diplo> I believe so, seems quite a few have forked it and made changes
[09:33] <brobostigon> ah, i see.
[09:34] <brobostigon> anyways, it seems to have loaded and connected to my xmpp server fine.
[09:39] <diplo> :)
[09:42] <brobostigon> :)
[09:42] <brobostigon> just need to find out now, if it works or not.
[10:02] <JamesTait> brobostigon, my XMPP address is on my launchpad profile, if you want to test. https://launchpad.net/~jamestait
[10:03] <brobostigon> ok, ty JamesTait.
[10:03] <brobostigon> that proved it didnt work, as your highlight didnt show up in my xmpp account.
[10:08] <shauno> I think you still need to provide the glue? adding xmpp as a transport to irssi just lets you message jabber users
[10:09] <brobostigon> glue? ok.
[10:09] <shauno> so you're still missing the magic sauce that passes messages from one to the other
[10:11] <shauno> (I had a look, but I got nothing - I do this out-of-band, so irssi is passing messages off to a notification service)
[10:11] <bigcalm> Good morning peeps :)
[10:21] <diddledan> allo folks
[10:23] <brobostigon> i have found an xmpp notify script, however when i try and load it, it throws up errors.
[10:33] <diplo> popey uses something to alert via an android app from memory
[10:37] <brobostigon> yes, on android i use irssinotifier. however this is for other systems that support xmpp, but not a notification system like irssinotifier.
[11:08] <foobarry> Amazon UK doubles the minimum spend for free delivery to £20
[11:08] <foobarry> game over guys
[11:08] <directhex> ouya's in trouble.
[11:10] <popey> oh?
[11:10] <Myrtti> foobarry: damn.
[11:12] <foobarry> including the "this item is exclusive to prime customers"
[11:13] <bashrc_> there is a minimum spend on amazon?
[11:13] <foobarry> for free delivs
[11:13] <diddledan> I thought prime gave you free next-day
[11:13] <foobarry> it does
[11:14] <foobarry> so it is now becoming a club
[11:14] <foobarry> that you have to join to buy stuf
[11:15] <bashrc_> I did get some spam for prime, but I buy things on amazon maybe once or twice per year so it's not worth it
[11:15] <czajkowski> davmor2: popey on 15.04 does skype work ?
[11:15] <foobarry> b&q near me is rubbish and don't have stock
[11:15] <foobarry> i have no choice
[11:16] * popey calls the skype lady
[11:16] <davmor2> czajkowski: no idea don't install skype
[11:16] <foobarry> welcome to skypecalltestingservice
[11:16] <czajkowski> popey: this determines my ability to upgrade :/
[11:16] <bashrc_> use mumble instead
[11:17] * diddledan mutters something under his breath
[11:17] <czajkowski> bashrc_: most of the people I need to talk to daily are via skype
[11:17] <diddledan> see there's a reason people tell you not to mumble :-p
[11:17] <czajkowski> I also use hipchat bluejeans and that evil system goto which doesn't work on Ubuntu or anything other than windows or mac
[11:17] <bashrc_> mumble is pretty easy, and open source
[11:18] <czajkowski> bashrc_: indeed I agree but also not suitable for me
[11:18] <popey> mumble is not easier than skype if the other person already has skype
[11:18] <czajkowski> I can load skype with credit and ring places outside of the UK which also is a chunk of things I do daily
[11:18] <awilkins> Mumble is not easier than Skype even if the other person has neither
[11:18] <czajkowski> as popey points out it's also more hassle if everyone else I need to talk to doens't use mumble but does use skype
[11:18] <davmor2> bashrc: these are real people she talks to not geeks, it's a job thing
[11:19] <awilkins> We use Zoom
[11:19] <awilkins> They just got around to having a Linux client
[11:19] <awilkins> It segfaults on my machine
[11:19] <awilkins> Easiest : WebRTC
[11:19] <bashrc_> a mumble client was quite easy to install on android. I'm not sure about UbuntuPhones though
[11:19] <awilkins> e.g. http://talky.io
[11:19] <ali1234> jitsi is easier than skype even if you already have skype
[11:19] <ali1234> "go to this webpage"
[11:19] <awilkins> Is jitsi now WebRTC?
[11:19] <ali1234> yes
[11:19] <popey> czajkowski: http://people.canonical.com/~alan/skypetest.mp3
[11:20] <czajkowski> popey: brilliant thank you!!!
[11:20] <awilkins> Any webconferencing platform that doesn't use WebRTC is cruising on it's inertia
[11:20] <ali1234> yep
[11:21] <czajkowski> goto is citrix and is EVIL!
[11:21] <czajkowski> so backward with it's requirments
[11:21] <awilkins> Goto have a WebRTC client now
[11:21] <czajkowski> awilkins: ohh
[11:21] <diddledan> jitsi now owned by atlassian?
[11:21] <czajkowski> I just dial in do tell me more
[11:21] <willcooke> Anyone got any thoughts on a cheap 3g data plan for USB dongles which will be used very rarely?
[11:22] <ali1234> willcooke: three
[11:22] <willcooke> thx ali1234
[11:22] <awilkins> WebEx works cross-platform but to get it to work properly on Linux you need to set up a special 32-bit environment for it
[11:22] <awilkins> WebEx is Java + native libs AFAICT
[11:22] <ali1234> willcooke: cpecifically the "1 2 3" payg account
[11:22] <czajkowski> willcooke: sim only on 3 ?
[11:23] <awilkins> willcooke, GiffGaff with a non-recurring gigabag?
[11:23] <ali1234> of course the problem with three is they have awful coverage
[11:23] <ali1234> so it depends where you're going to use it
[11:23] <davmor2> willcooke: giffgaff data buckets are kinda crappy, great for phones though. 3 probably gives you the largest data plan on pay as you go
[11:23] <davmor2> awilkins: ^
[11:24] <awilkins> davmor2, I only use the phone plans, and tether if I need data
[11:24] <awilkins> davmor2, As long as you're on a plan with a cap, tethering is totes allowed
[11:24] <davmor2> awilkins: my point exactly it's great for phones. but the data only plans kinda suck
[11:25] <awilkins> If you're willing to switch your phone, it's a great plan for phone + occasional data access
[11:26] <awilkins> But I can't say about the data only plans because I've never needed to research them
[11:27] <awilkins> Re : ewbconf
[11:27] <awilkins> When someone successfully integrates WebRTC + Wave, game over
[11:27] <awilkins> WebRTC + Wave (with lots of different wavelet apps like mindmapping / document editing)
[11:28] <awilkins> The next step up from there is VR webconferencing with haptic interfaces editing 3D models in real time
[11:59] <daubers> Just dropped into say, upgraded my machine to 15.04 and Unity is now pretty good to use. Thanks guys :)
[12:00] <daubers> Also, what's the MTA of choice these days?
[12:01] * penguin42 still uses exim but hmm
[12:02] <daubers> I've never used exim. I've used the one that I want to say is postgres but isn't and still starts with a p :)
[12:03] <penguin42> yes, that one....
[12:03] <daubers> postfix!
[12:03] <penguin42> right
[12:04] <daubers> Sorry, I knew it was post<something> and I've been using too much postgres recently
[12:06] <penguin42> bulbs are complicated; 12W LED bulbs seem to give about 1000 lumens out, and are listed as 75W equivalent, yet wikipedia lists 100W/230v as 1160 lumen, so you'd think it would be closer
[12:15] <foobarry> where are you buying the bulbs penguin42
[12:16] * penguin42 is googling a bit
[12:16] <penguin42> foobarry: CPC list 12W LED bulbs at ~1000 lumen
[12:17] <foobarry> amazon and ebay seem sto sell dodgy chinese stuff
[12:17] <foobarry> b&q are ££
[12:17] <foobarry> not much in between
[12:17] <penguin42> foobarry: I'm not really convinced that there are is any good stuff
[12:18] <foobarry> its so dreary and cold today i'm having soup :-|
[12:18] <intrbiz> bring back incandescent i say
[12:18] <diplo> Electrical Wholesalers!
[12:19] <penguin42> intrbiz: Well, since I was woken at 7am (3 hours after I went to bed) by someone changing a compact-flourescent that had just expired at under 5 months old (and therefor <2000 hours use) - grrr
[12:19] <diplo> Just don't buy cheap, won't last
[12:19] <zmoylan-pi> incandescent never went away
[12:19] <diplo> Well we're not allowed to sell it zmoylan-pi
[12:19] <zmoylan-pi> i'm sure i saw some on shop shelf in last year somewhere. it suprised me
[12:19] <penguin42> diplo: Oh, well, of course you can buy rough service bulbs, for those erm specialist applications
[12:20] <penguin42> diplo: And oddly those seem to be available everywhere
[12:21] <diplo> Hadn't read about that, just reading an article on it :P
[12:22] <diplo> I used to work for Electrical Wholesalers, now work for a software company supplying software to electrical wholesalers :)
[12:22] <penguin42> diplo: Ah, fun
[12:23] <penguin42> diplo: So they can track the 25000 different SMD components that all look the same and can track the certifcates of compliance and things?
[12:23] <diplo> nah, we're the ERP side, selling over the counter.. sod getting into all that
[12:23] <diplo> :P
[12:24] <popey> Daughters lava lamp only works with incandescent lamps... hard to get ones that last
[12:24] <penguin42> what makes over the counter for electrical wholesalers any different from any other over-the-counter?
[12:24] <foobarry> mine still works for 20 years
[12:24] <diplo> popey: What type of bulb is it ? I can take a look here if you like
[12:25] <diplo> They do LED ones that look identical to incandescent now as well
[12:25] <diplo> penguin42: Trade accounts and prices, specialist Three phase stuff
[12:25] <diplo> Not having to deal with cash people so much
[12:25] * zmoylan-pi realised last night that if they switch off the fm radio stations here in favour of dab that my 30yo fm radio will be obsolete...
[12:25] <popey> LED is no good
[12:25] <popey> they don't get hot enough to make the lava melt
[12:25] <penguin42> diplo: ah yeh
[12:26] <penguin42> popey: Do you often have problems with lava?
[12:26] <diplo> True, never had a lava lamp, wasn't sure if the bulb just worked to light it up and an element did the softening
[12:26] <zmoylan-pi> well apart from the guy with lava lamp who won a darwin award
[12:26] <diplo> Well if you have a make and model of the bulb I can see what if you like
[12:27] <diplo> anyhoo off to get a sandwich
[12:27] <popey> no, it needs to be hot
[12:27] <popey> to make the wax lava melt
[12:27] <popey> looks like mathmos themselves sell them
[12:27] <popey> http://www.mathmos.com/E14-SES-Screw-fitting.html
[12:27] <foobarry> can you get IR bulbs
[12:29] <foobarry> http://www.lightbulbs-direct.com/golfball-40w-ses-clear/p1075/
[12:29] <foobarry> i think only banned for 60w and over?
[12:29] <foobarry> or did i make that uip
[12:35] <ali1234> get a 1000W LED floodlight
[12:36] <ali1234> not only will it be hot enough to melt the wax, it will also blind anyone in the immediate vicinity :)
[12:37] <diddledan> ali1234: +1
[12:38] <foobarry> aterry: http://www.independent.co.uk/life-style/gadgets-and-tech/news/apple-watch-tattoos-could-break-key-smartwatch-functions-10211777.html
[12:39] <foobarry> woops
[12:42] <zmoylan-pi> those poor hipsters...
[12:44] <daftykin1> XD
[12:44] <daftykin1> how *will* they cope?
[12:45] <daftykin1> ah neat, my das keyboard is dropping O's again today
[12:47] <awilkins> Those Cherry switches aren't infinite in lifetime, are they
[12:48] <zmoylan-pi> version 2 of the apple watch will have a laser to drill for skin...
[12:48] <awilkins> I have a G80-3000 (Cherry assembled keyboard) and some of the switches need "warming up" some days
[12:48] <zmoylan-pi> you may experience some pain for the first few days of wearing version 2 :-P
[12:49] <daftykin1> well i don't think this is that old
[12:49] <daftykin1> typically after a warm up it plays nicely
[12:49] <zmoylan-pi> is the keyboard clean?
[12:50] <daftykin1> yeah i've stripped and cleaned it before to no avail
[12:54] <daftykin1> now my scroll wheel is starting to go up when i roll down :<
[12:54] <daftykin1> there's a war on my desk, my input devices hate me
[12:58] <zmoylan-pi> your mouse... it's coming right at you!! ::blasts it with nerf::
[13:00] <daftykin1> i shall feed it to the cat
[13:10] <daftykins> amazing i didn't even see my nick
[13:40] <diplo> foobarry: Asking me if I can get IR bulbs? If so yeah afaik, used to be able to
[13:40] <diplo> Also it was 100's then 60's and now all are banned
[13:51] <Flashtek> Q: with a 14.04 install, is it possible/sane to use dns-nameserver entries in the interfaces file ?
[13:51] <diplo> popey: 40watt about £1.60 + vat from one of our suppliers
[13:53] <daftykins> Flashtek: dnsmasq might fight you i would expect
[13:53] <daftykins> best to purge resolvconf then hardcode into /etc/resolv.conf
[13:54] <Flashtek> dnsmasq not installed
[13:54] <daftykins> i don't know much about it so can't even tell you if that's the package
[13:56] <Flashtek> kk
[13:57] <popey> diplo: proper lamps?
[13:58] <diplo> yeah, Osram ones I believe
[13:58] <diplo> They are halogen bulbs it appears
[13:58] <diplo> Par16/40w ses
[14:00] <diplo> if you do a search for that on google you find some cheaper prices than the link you sent
[14:01] <diplo> http://www.oceanlighting.co.uk/light-bulbs-c111/reflector-spots-light-bulbs-c167/bell-bell-05042-40w-clear-r50-par-16-reflector-spot-ses-e14-bulb-p16874/s16875?gclid=Cj0KEQjwgoKqBRDt_IfLr8y1iMUBEiQA8Ua7XX8PFeclc7mXQgfQEbVXePFDQffJJnRIGdSy-Lm4lDYaAmyy8P8HAQ
[14:01] <diplo> Like that
[14:01] <diplo> https://www.easy-lightbulbs.com/light-bulbs/halogen-lighting/par-halogen-reflector-bulbs/screw-in-14mm-diameter/p1640fl-ses-ca/?gclid=Cj0KEQjwgoKqBRDt_IfLr8y1iMUBEiQA8Ua7XbDTAylXASgp_5PIvDHUc82oHFJsf5DfIPwDGEWvwvoaArCS8P8HAQ
[14:01] <diplo> Or that
[14:03] <Flashtek> does anyone else know if the dns setting within /etc/network/interfaces is valid ?
[14:03] <daftykins> just do what i mentioned and life will be fine
[14:04] <Flashtek> daftykins: if it were down to me, that's how it'd be done... however I need conclusive proof that it doesn't work as expected
[14:04] <Flashtek> i'm fairly sure it's a depricated feature
[14:04] <daftykins> why must you configure these things via the interfaces file?
[14:05] <daftykins> the word is deprecated - depreciate means to drop in value :>
[14:05] <Flashtek> daftykins: it's part of a salstack controlled environment
[14:05] <daftykins> which way around is deprecated?
[14:05] <daftykins> that means nothing to me
[14:05] <Flashtek> dropped feature
[14:06] <daftykins> no i'm asking which approach you consider to be deprecated?
[14:06] <Flashtek> nameservers in interfaces file
[14:06] <daftykins> not sure on that, i just don't do it that way
[14:07] <daftykins> modern versions are a bit too automagic, so i purge the package resolvconf and set manual config
[14:07] <daftykins> you can probably do it via interfaces as well as hardcoding /etc/resolv.conf direct - just bear in mind that one reboot after purging /etc/resolv.conf will likely still overwrite that file, only subsequent reboots will it persist
[14:07] <Flashtek> we have mixed installs where some of the systems are DHCP
[14:08] <Flashtek> and a handful are statis
[14:08] <Flashtek> *static
[14:08] <daftykins> for servers!?
[14:09] <Flashtek> depends on how you define 'server'
[14:09] <daftykins> computer running a service accessed from elsewhere
[14:10] <Flashtek> yes then
[14:10] <Flashtek> sshd
[14:10] <daftykins> seems unreliable
[14:11] <daftykins> Flashtek: anywho this might help, it explains some of what changed since 12.04 time - https://www.stgraber.org/2012/02/24/dns-in-ubuntu-12-04/
[14:11] <Flashtek> thanks daftykins
[14:11] <daftykins> np :)
[14:19] <Flashtek> seems that the dns-nameservers entry in interfaces is not documented anywhere handy... aside from stating "needs resolvconf"
[14:22] <daftykins> hah
[14:22] <daftykins> assuming this host is never going to move environment, i'd prefer hardcoded myself
[14:23] <penguin42> daftykins: If you're setting up static then just take networkmanager out and put the dns server in /etc/resolv.conf ?
[14:24] <daftykins> NM wouldn't be there if this were a server? (this is the approach i'm coming from)
[14:24] <penguin42> daftykins: Right
[14:24] <daftykins> also resolvconf handles resolv.conf as above due to automagic evils
[14:24] <penguin42> right, but you can knock it all back to be simple
[14:25] <daftykins> i guess i never asked if it were desktop or server
[15:15] <diddledan> techy, but some might moan at me for mentioning: ms build is about to start in 15 minutes (http://channel9.msdn.com/) be interesting to see what they say about 'dows10
[15:16] <diddledan> in other news, I'm 32 and my beard is already turning grey. I'm not only a neckbeard, but a greybeard too!
[15:17] <diddledan> not as bad as my dad tho - his is completely white now
[15:17] <penguin42> diddledan: Ah, distinguished
[15:17] <diddledan> :-)
[15:18] <diddledan> I'm sporting a pretty decent nerdy-tail with my hair these days, too
[15:18] * bashrc_ is amused to find a command called "lunch"
[15:18] <diddledan> bashrc: you're doing android or related dev :-p
[15:19] <diddledan> there's also brunch
[15:19] <bashrc_> but is there a teatime?
[15:19] <diddledan> or is it breakfast?
[15:19] <bashrc_> dinner?
[15:19] <diddledan> alas, no
[15:20] <diddledan> android and ubuphone's build process is a bit black-art to me
[15:21] <diddledan> but then build processes in general confuse me
[15:21] <diddledan> autotools is a mystery
[15:21] <diddledan> cmake even more so
[15:22] <foobarry> mmm camke
[15:22] <foobarry> cake
[15:22] <diddledan> foobarry: get yourself invited onto the podcast - they always seem to have cake
[15:24] <diddledan> wow, when did they go up? I've missed three episodes of it
[15:24] <foobarry> i've misssed the past 3 years
[15:24] <popey> diddledan: build process for phone itself or apps on the phone?
[15:24] <foobarry> somehow got out of the habit
[15:24] <diddledan> popey: is the naming scheme beers?
[15:24] <popey> no
[15:25] <diddledan> popey: the build process for the actual phone - the androidy bits specifically
[15:25] <popey> yeah, no idea how that works
[15:25] <diddledan> damn
[15:25] <diddledan> I will figure out this naming scheme!
[15:26] <popey> it's a fun one :)
[15:26] <diddledan> has anyone guessed yet?
[15:26] <popey> not that anyone has told me
[15:26] <diddledan> ok
[15:27] <diddledan> I'm still in the running then :-p
[15:27] <diddledan> there is a prize, right? :-D
[15:27] <diddledan> teehee
[15:27] <diddledan> we all know we want "more quizzes"
[15:27] <bashrc_> cmake is a riddle inside of an enigma
[15:27] <popey> heh
[15:28] <diddledan> bashrc_: you need a bombe to crack the outer enigma
[15:28] <popey> we use cmake for many of the apps on the phone
[15:28] <bashrc_> :)
[15:28] <diddledan> yeah cmake started as a qt or kde thing so it makes sense to use it extensively for apps considering they're mostly qt-based
[15:28] <ali1234> cmake is nice
[15:29] <ali1234> diddledan: aren't you thinking of qmake?
[15:29] <diddledan> oh maybe I am
[15:29] <diddledan> damn you memory-cells!
[15:29] <ali1234> i don't think they are related, i could be wrong though
[15:41] <ujjain> greetings
[15:41] <ujjain> http://getworkdonemusic.com/# can somebody check if the play button on this site works?
[15:41] <ujjain> I've been repetititevely been pressing it for 2 minutes
[15:42] <ujjain> maybe it's a metaphor: "don't listen to music, get work done"
[15:44] <daftykins> :D pretty good idea. sorry don't trust such sites.
[15:45] <popey> doesn't work here in chrome on ubuntu
[15:46] <ujjain> it was in my firefox bookmarks
[15:46] <ujjain> from 3 years ago
[15:46] <ujjain> I guess soundcloud integration broke
[15:46] <ujjain> cleaning up bookmarks, I think I'm one of the few these days that still uses bookmarks
[15:47] <daftykins> :D anything i bookmark i never look at again
[15:47] <daftykins> i browse by manually entering URLs, but age is making the ol' memory suffer
[15:48] <shauno> I bookmark things to force them to show up in the guesses when the omnibox tries to read my mind
[15:49] <popey> same here
[15:50] <daftykins> :D
[16:04] <Flashtek> ujjain: click fast, or faster
[16:09] <awilkins> ujjain, There's a codec thing you need for it to work
[16:14] <ujjain> hmm ok
[16:14] <ujjain> it does work now :p
[16:14] <ujjain> I like this song
[16:15] <ujjain> boom boom boom boom
[16:15] <ujjain> boom boom
[16:54] <popey> http://techcrunch.com/2015/04/29/microsoft-shocks-the-world-with-visual-studio-code-a-free-code-editor-for-os-x-linux-and-windows/
[16:55] <zmoylan-pi> microsoft is not a friend of open source
[16:56] <popey> historically...
[16:56] <zmoylan-pi> the patent trolling on android now remains
[16:57] <penguin42> zmoylan-pi: Yes, you check the licenses on their c# stuff and find it doesn't grant patents except for use in c# systems, so if you pick up their code that's free in it and use it elsewhere you're in a world of pain
[16:58] <penguin42> zmoylan-pi: Free to use from copyright point of view, but not patent
[16:58] <zmoylan-pi> i've seen their behaviour since the 80s. i'll never trust them
[16:58] <penguin42> nod
[16:59] <shauno> still interesting to see a new CEO make some new moves though
[17:00] <zmoylan-pi> i keep meaning to put up a list of companies screwed over by ms. but it's such a huge list...
[17:02] <bashrc_> penguin42: I think MS still has a "patent promise" which is legally worthless
[18:06] <awilkins> MS totally copying the "Ubuntu phone is your PC" thing then
[18:20] <zmoylan-pi> with things like the pi about the day when you can build your own mobile device to your own spec and capabilities is getting ever closer
[18:24] <penguin42> zmoylan-pi: It's difficult - a lot of getting the device small, thin, light etc is squashing what you want into the case, and small changes are hard - the modular things from Google kind of look interesting, but still look a bit thick
[18:25] * zmoylan-pi remembers the psion ii. and how the ones we had at work lasted long into the wince/pocket pc era as they were just so useful.
[18:25] * penguin42 had the 3a - well, the Acorn version of it
[18:25] <daftykins> 3c here :O still lurking somewhere
[18:26] <daftykins> i think it was relegated to crossword duty for the old girl
[18:26] <zmoylan-pi> and also how every one i knew who used a psion ii had a story of driving over it with a land rover for some reason, usually accidental...
[18:26] * penguin42 wonders if material science could build one of those with a decent hinge now
[18:26] <daftykins> haha they really did creak didn't they?
[18:26] <penguin42> mine has a hinge broken after a few years of use
[18:26] <zmoylan-pi> they creaked, they squeaked but land rovers never killed one of them...
[18:27] <penguin42> you ran over a psion in a land rover?
[18:27] <daftykins> zmoylan-pi: are you secretly part of a land rovers anonymous club?
[18:28] <zmoylan-pi> it just seems that every time i met someone with a psion ii they had driven over accidently with their land rover. and it always seemed to be a land rover. no minis... about 4-5 seperate stories from different people.
[18:28] <zmoylan-pi> usually they had put the psion ii on the roof of car to open door and then forgot it which was 2-3 of the stories
[18:28] <zmoylan-pi> and then when realising and driving back they dinged it the second time
[19:14] * DJones hands daftykins Some diet pills
[19:15] <daftykins> ;)
[19:39] <davmor2> popey: with have the winner for the W release Worrisome Worms with the catchline "Incoming"
[19:39] <popey> lies
[19:42] <davmor2> popey: you can't tell me you don't want this as the next backdrop http://ih0.redbubble.net/image.13839012.8439/fc,550x550,white.u1.jpg
[19:43] <davmor2> popey: obvious with the origami backdrop ;)
[21:03] <daftykins> hey diddledan did you hear the news?
[21:03] <daftykins> the Microsoft Edge browser, now with mspaint integration - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iH1D31YHsgY
[21:04] <daftykins> perhaps that's what Spartan is
[21:04] <diddledan> yeah I'm watching the keynote now
[21:04] <diddledan> project spartan is now known as "Microsoft Edge"
[21:04] <daftykins> have you a linky?
[21:05] <diddledan> it was earlier, I'm watching the video I cached from channel9.msdn.com
[21:05] <daftykins> ah
[21:06] <daftykins> me too now \o/ ty
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[06:22] <Undreamed> guten morgen
[06:24] <Undreamed> ich hätte da so ein kleines wine sound problem und vermute das es mit pulseaudio (zumindestens ist es das was ich ergooglen konnte) zusammenhängt. Aber ich konnte in google keine wirkliche hilfe finden bzw. wie man das lösen könnte
[06:24] <Undreamed> ich hoffe ier hatt jmd nen rat für mich
[06:26] <Undreamed> achja.. der sound "läuft" zu schnell... viel zu schnell.. und wenn der fehler auftritt fliegen meine fps in den keller
[06:32] <Undreamed> ALSA lib pcm.c:7843:(snd_pcm_recover) underrun occurred <--- falls es weiterhilft, das ist der fehler den mir wine ausspuckt sobald der sound "fehler" auftritt
[09:54] <mmoai> hi. ich versuche eine vpn verbindung einzurichten. in der anleitung steht dass ich einen bestimmten gruppennamen und ein gruppenpasswort auswaehlen soll, aber in der vpn-einrichtngs-gui gibt es dazu keine auswahlmoeglichkeiten
[09:54] <mmoai> es gibt nur ein user-account und password
[09:54] <mmoai> ich habe alle vpnc pakete installiert
[09:57] <mmoai> die vpnc pakete habe ich allerdings erst eben nachinstalliert. danach habe ich den networkmanager prozess gekillt damit er autmatisch neu gestartet wird
[09:58] <mmoai> ich nehme daher an dass der networkmanager das neue plugin jetzt verwenden koennen muesste, oder?
[11:21] <markus___> 1
[11:21] <markus___> exit
[14:27] <jokrebel> jedes mal wenn ich ein "apt-get update && apt-get dist-upgrade" laufen lassen (14.04) behauptet das Info-Symbol im KDE-Panel das 2 aktualisierbare Pakete vorhanden wären (im terminal kommt aber 0 aktualsisiert 0 neu 0 zu entfernen 0 nicht aktualisiert). Schließe ich die Meldung und starte im Terminal update/dist-upgrade erneut passiert genau wieder das selbe (anscheinend endlos reproduzierbar)
[14:29] <Fuchs> jokrebel: entfern das Symbol, das hat genau 0 Mehrwert und sehr viel Nervwert
[14:30] <jokrebel> hm
[14:51] <mmp0028> hey, ich muss VM-Einstellungen mit vboxmanage modifyvm ändern. Leider kenne ich mich nur mit der GUI aus. Ich muss einen zweiten Core freischalten. Wie lautet der Befahl? Muss der Client runtergefahren sein?
[14:56] <nagetier> mmp0028, https://www.virtualbox.org/manual/ch08.html da hast du die chance :)
[14:56] <kubine> nagetier: Title: Chapter 8. VBoxManage (at www.virtualbox.org)
[14:56] <mmp0028> ist der Befehl: vboxmanage modifyvm --cpus 2
[14:58] <nagetier> mmp0028, https://www.virtualbox.org/manual/ch09.html#cpuhotplug
[14:58] <kubine> nagetier: Title: Chapter 9. Advanced topics (at www.virtualbox.org)
[14:59] <basti> kann man ubuntu auf einen usb stick installieren? oder anders gefragt: sollte man? würde mit gerne ein nas bauen und habe eigentlich keinen platz im gehäuse für eine weitere festplatte
[15:00] <Fuchs> kann man, z.B. Live-System mit einem persistenten Teil,
[15:00] <Fuchs> aber Flash-Speicher in USB STicks / auf Speicherkarten ist ueblicherweise schlecht geeignet fuer den Betrieb als OS
[15:00] <Fuchs> das duerfte Dir irgendwann sterben
[15:01] <js__> die vielen lese/schreibabfragen ruinieren dir den stick in 2-3 monaten
[15:01] <basti> gibt es denn eine distro (außer freenas etc), welche das können bzw bei denen das besser funktioniert?
[15:02] <basti> bei freenas scheint es mir, dass man recht eingeschränkt ist. (offtopic?)
[15:02] <nagetier> IMHO kann man viele Systeme auch in den RAM kopieren lassen
[15:02] <Fuchs> basti: imo ist nichts wirklich geeignet fuer auf einen USB Stick, also kannst Du ruhig Ubuntu nehmen
[15:03] <basti> dann muss ich mir wohl eine ssd ins gehäuse legen ;)
[15:03] <Fuchs> Vermutlich gescheiter. Die gibt es ja in sehr klein
[15:04] <basti> und halbwegs günstig
[15:08] <nagetier> basti, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Linux_distributions_that_run_from_RAM
[15:08] <kubine> nagetier: Title: List of Linux distributions that run from RAM - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia (at en.wikipedia.org)
[15:11] <js__> knoppix ^^
[15:11] <js__> war fast mein erstes linux. 10 jahre her oder so...
[15:18] <nagetier> ob da auch nur eine für den Einsatzzweck geeignet ist, bezweifle ich allerdings auch
[15:18] <nagetier> aber ok, mit ein wenig voodoo soll das jede Distribution mit initrd können
[15:21] <nagetier> basti, ich habe hier ein System, das von einer CF-Karte am IDE bootet.. ob die weniger anfällig sind ist mir allerdings nicht klar, jedenfalls ist der Adapter und die Karte günstig zu haben (ein Stick allerdings auch)
[15:30] <stevieh> nagetier: damit hab ich nur schlechte erfahrungen ;-)
[15:34] <musca> Ich habe mal einen Schwarm von Thinclients betreut, bei dennen die User reihenweise die Bedienknöpfe beschädigt haben, weil die Systeme aufgrund defekter CF-Karten einfroren.
[15:35] <k1l_> meine alte 4GB CF karte hat ewig gehalten, die 8GB leider keine 2 wochen, sogar die rma karte hat nur 3 wochen gehalten
[15:35] <k1l_> in einem cf2ide adapter.
[15:36] <musca> Die User wollten dann fünf Sekunden den Powerknopf drücken, und das konnte deren Plastikmechanik nicht aushalten.
[16:15] <FliFlaFluffy> Hallo zusammen, Habe das 15.04 über das 14.10 installiert, da der Upgrade den xserver zerschossen hatte. Die Home-Partition habe ich stehen lassen und einen gleichnamigen Benutzer angelegt. Nun werde ich beim Systemstart aufgefordert die home zu decrypten. kann ich das fixen? Oder muss ich alles neu Installieren und die home formatieren? Danke
[16:26] <k-stz> FliFlaFluffy: scheint nicht ohne weiteres zu gehen, hier eine englische lösung: http://www.howtogeek.com/116179/how-to-disable-home-folder-encryption-after-installing-ubuntu/?PageSpeed=noscript
[16:26] <kubine> k-stz: Title: How to Disable Home Folder Encryption After Installing Ubuntu (at www.howtogeek.com)
[17:10] <guestxxxx> moin
[17:13] <guestxxxx> ist ja sicherlich jemand da der mir vielleicht helfen kann: ich habe den hardware enabling stack für ubuntu 14.04 installiert (kernel 3.16.0.34) und habe 2 probleme : 1) mein wlan lässt irgendwann keine daten mehr fließen und ich muss es neu verbinden 2) mein canon lide 110 funktioniert - fehlermeldung beim scanversuch
[17:48] <kcalB> hier!
[17:48] <guestxxxx> kcalB :)
[17:50] <guestxxxx> hatte vergessen zu erwähnen dass das notebook ein acer aspire E1-572 ist
[18:01] <jokrebel> guestxxxx: zu 2): Drucken geht aber Fehlermeldung bei Scan? Wie lautet diese? zu 1): Welche WLAN-Karte (lsusb oder lspci entsprechend noPasten)
[18:01] <jokrebel> !pasten > guestxxxx
[18:01] <kubine> guestxxxx: Nicht selbst geschriebener Text wird im IRC sehr unleserlich und unhandlich. Deshalb sollten mehr als 3 Zeilen immer in einen sogenannten Nopaste-Service wie z.B. http://paste.ubuntu.com/ abgelegt werden. Nach dem Speichern kannst du dann die URL der Seite kopieren und sie statt des Textes hier im Channel posten.
[18:01] <guestxxxx> ist ein reiner scanner
[18:02] <guestxxxx> fehlermeldung in simple scan ist nen roter balken wo steht scannen fehlgeschlagen
[18:02] <jokrebel> dann versteh ich das "funktioniert" aber nicht
[18:02] <guestxxxx> habe ich nen "nicht" vergessen
[18:02] <guestxxxx> :(
[18:03] <guestxxxx> lspci sagt 02:00.0 Network controller: Qualcomm Atheros QCA9565 / AR9565 Wireless Network Adapter (rev 01)
[18:04] <guestxxxx> chrome sagte mir in einem ausfallzustand des wlans eine fehlermeldung mit DNS und NO INTERNET
[18:05] <guestxxxx> gerät war aber verbunden laut netzwerkmanager
[18:05] <jokrebel> guestxxxx: DNS kann aber auch was anderes sein. Sicher dass da dann das WLAN weg ist? Geht auch Mail und Chat oder so nicht mehr?
[18:06] <guestxxxx> da habe ich spontan so gar nicht drauf geachtet
[18:06] <jokrebel> guestxxxx: Und wegen dem Scanner; der sollte natürlich auch in lsusb auftauchen (wenns denn ein USB-gerät ist)
[18:06] <guestxxxx> aber updates vom jdownloader gingen nicht zu machen
[18:07] <guestxxxx> arbeiten wir uns langsam punkt für punkt vor jokrebel :)
[18:07] <jokrebel> guestxxxx: "mein WLAn geht nicht" nur weil im Browser eine Seite DNS-Fehler meldet ist aber noch keine gute Fehlereingrenzung ;-)
[18:08] <guestxxxx> naja, jdownloader lud auch keine updates
[18:08] <guestxxxx> außerdem hatte ich probleme mit dem neu verbinden des wlans
[18:09] <guestxxxx> musste die komplette schnittstelle deaktivieren und neuaktivieren
[18:09] <bekks> Und nun bist du verbunden?
[18:09] <LupusE> moin
[18:09] <guestxxxx> gerade ja
[18:09] <guestxxxx> hatte den mist aber heute sicherlich schon 4x
[18:09] <bekks> Wirft dein Browser aktuell immer noch Fehler?
[18:09] <guestxxxx> gerade geht alles
[18:10] <guestxxxx> soweit ich das im überblick sehen kann
[18:10] <bekks> Dann liegt auch kein Fehler vor :)
[18:10] <guestxxxx> müsste kurz testen was firefox sagt
[18:10] <bekks> Das fragte ich...
[18:10] <guestxxxx> nur weil es aussieht als wenn alles funktioniert heißt es ja auch nicht das alles funktioniert ;)
[18:11] <guestxxxx> obwohl,ich bin mit nem webchat client hier
[18:12] <jokrebel> guestxxxx: Ein DNS-Fehler kann auch temporär mal von einer Website vorhanden sein...
[18:14] <bekks> Wirft dein Firefox Fehler oder nicht?
[18:14] <guestxxxx> heißt das wir können das wlan problem nicht bearbeiten? :(
[18:14] <bekks> Richtig. Kein Fehler, kein Problem.
[18:15] <guestxxxx_> kaum sage ich mein wlan läuft gerade fliege ich raus
[18:15] <guestxxxx_> -.-
[18:15] <bekks> Dann zeig uns mal ein "dmesg" in einem Pastebin :)
[18:15] <bekks> Und wie äusserte sich das "WLAN fliegt raus"?
[18:16] <guestxxxx_> wollte gerade übers terminal google.com anpingen,dann ging im terminal nichts
[18:17] <guestxxxx_> fb chat war getrennt und webseiten lassen sich nicht mehr aufrufen
[18:17] <jokrebel> guestxxxx_: Und wenn Du noch ein lsusb des (USB???)-Scanners herzeigst kann _ich_ einstweilen mal schaun ob ich dafür was finde.
[18:17] <bekks> Was bedeutet "ging nichts"?
[18:17] <bekks> Wie wäre es zur Abwechslung statt schwammigen Beschreibung mal mit konkreten Fehlermeldungen?
[18:18] <guestxxxx_> gibt ja keine fehlermeldung außer seite nicht gefunden im browser
[18:18] <bekks> Fehlermeldung im Browser bei telnet ind er Konsole?!
[18:18] <guestxxxx_> bin kurz mit meinem hund draußen,der ist alt und hält nicht mehr so gut durch :(
[18:19] <jokrebel> TELNET? oO
[18:19] <FliFlaFluffy> k-stz: Danke, doch eigentlich will ich die encryption nicht aufheben, nur fixen, dass ich vor dem Login (und zum Teil bei Updates) das PW eingeben muss. Ist das ein neues Feature von 15.04? Dass man das PW der Home-Folder vor dem Login eingeben muss?
[18:19] <FliFlaFluffy> Muss dies zum Teil mit dem systemd-Tool
[18:26] <k-stz> FliFlaFluffy: eine schnelle lösung wäre ein blankes passwort
[18:28] <jokrebel> dann kann man aber auch gleich auf Verschlüsselung verzichten ... macht übrigens das Leben _einiges_ einfacher bei jedweden Problemchen ;-)
[18:29] <p01nt3r> nabend. wie kann bei avidemux auf dem cli bestimmt werden, welchen video-codec man verwenden will, wenn man mehrere hat, die den gleichen namen haben? (z.b. mpeg4-avc, mpeg4-dts,...)?
[18:30] * jokrebel outet sich mal wieder als Vollverschlüsselungsgegner - Man kann auch einzelne Dateien verschlüsseln ;-) </offtopic>
[18:30] <bekks> In dem Du den Namen deines Codecs angibst?
[18:31] <p01nt3r> bekks, hab ich versucht, hat ihn aber nicht erkannt und dann irgend einen anderen genommen. wie finde ich denn heraus, wie der codec genau heissen muss?
[18:31] <k-stz> jokrebel: meine vorurteile: es dauert lange zum entschlüsseln und macht die festplatte schneller tot, und es ist "overkill". Vielleicht vernünftiger wenn man es auf dem laptop macht, und sensible daten mit sich rumführt
[18:34] <jokrebel> k-stz: Sensible Daten gehören gar nicht auf (digitale?) Geräte noch dazu wenn sie zum Internet Zugang haben .... weiter 2ct offtopic - alles weiter aber nebenan
[18:40] <guestxxxx_> da bin ich wieder,sorry das ich vorhin so abgerauscht bin aber mein hund ist 16,blind,taub und leicht dement
[18:40] <guestxxxx_> da muss man sich dann halt schnell drum kümmern wenn er sich meldet
[18:42] <guestxxxx_> da ist vorhin bei meinem versuch dinge zu erklären auch einiges drunter und drüber gegangen
[18:42] <guestxxxx_> hab meistens nen ziemliches chaos im kopf und das merkt man auch
[18:43] <guestxxxx_> wollte niemandem vor den kopf stoßen und es ist auch nicht meine absicht zu provozieren oder ähnliches
[18:43] <mrkramps> guestxxxx_, vielleicht weniger texten und mehr eine konkrete frage stellen?
[18:44] <guestxxxx_> die habe ich ja gestellt bevor ich fluchtartig meine hilfsbereiten retter verlassen musste
[18:44] <guestxxxx_> aus genannten gründen
[18:45] <guestxxxx_> bekks und jokrebel um sie mal namentlich zu nennen :)
[18:45] <bekks> Vielleicht wäre gar nicht texten sondern Informationen die angefragt wurden sinnvoll.
[18:46] <guestxxxx_> ich versuche so viele infos zu geben wie ich kann
[18:46] <guestxxxx_> aber ich habe keine fehlermeldungen
[18:46] <guestxxxx_> keine systemfehlermeldung,finde nichts im syslog das sich lohnt zu nopasten ohne euch totzuposten
[18:47] <guestxxxx_> ich bin selber ratlos etwas wie ich euch zeigen kann was ich hier erlebe mit meinem wlan
[18:47] <guestxxxx_> :(
[18:52] <guestxxxx> war schon wieder geflogen habe aber wahrscheinlich im syslog was gefunden
[18:52] <guestxxxx> http://pastebin.com/yRcuvqdF
[18:52] <kubine> guestxxxx: Title: guestxxxxwlan1 - Pastebin.com (at pastebin.com)
[18:52] <guestxxxx> avahi fehler tauchen auf einmal auf
[18:54] <jokrebel> guestxxxx_: meist sind NoPastes von Meldungen/Logs zielführender als irgendwelche eigeninpretierten Spekulationen und sonstige privaten Erzählungen.
[18:54] <guestxxxx> ich habe bis eben irgendwie nichts in den logs gefunden
[18:54] <guestxxxx> aber jetzt ist für mich überraschend was im log aufgetaucht
[18:55] <guestxxxx> :)
[18:55] <guestxxxx> http://pastebin.com/yRcuvqdF
[18:55] <kubine> guestxxxx: Title: guestxxxxwlan1 - Pastebin.com (at pastebin.com)
[18:57] <jokrebel> guestxxxx: Was ist das denn für ein Ubuntu? Und nutzt Du da den Network-manager?
[18:58] <guestxxxx> ubuntu mate 14.04.2 seit sonntag abend und ja ich nutze den standard mitgelieferten network manager falls du den meinst :)
[18:59] <guestxxxx> habe den HWE instaliert da mein bluetooth nicht funktioniert hat
[19:00] <jokrebel> wer oder was ist HWE?
[19:01] <guestxxxx> der hardware enabling stack von ubuntu
[19:01] <guestxxxx> damit kann man eine LTS version offizell mit einem neueren kernel ausstatten
[19:02] <guestxxxx> wird von canonical bereitgestellt
[19:02] <guestxxxx> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kernel/LTSEnablementStack
[19:02] <kubine> guestxxxx: Title: Kernel/LTSEnablementStack - Ubuntu Wiki (at wiki.ubuntu.com)
[19:04] <guestxxxx> damit funktioniert mein bluetooth super mit meiner maus :)
[19:04] <guestxxxx> aber seitdem habe ich das wlan haken
[19:06] <jokrebel> guestxxxx: Fürchte dann bin ich aus dem WLAN-Problem raus. Aber nochmal zu dem Scanner; hattest Du jetzt da schon was drüber geliefert und ich habs überlesen?
[19:06] <guestxxxx> über den scanner habe ich noch nichts gesagt
[19:06] <bekks> guestxxxx: Dann lies doch nochmal welche Informationen von jokrebel und mir angefordert wurden, und die du immer noch nicht geliefert hast.
[19:07] <guestxxxx> besser kann ich "geht nicht" beschreiben ohne findbaren fehlermeldungen bekks :( ich wüsste nicht wo oder wie ich noch schauen muss um zu finden was du wissen möchtest :(
[19:08] <bekks> guestxxxx: Dann lies doch nochmal welche Informationen von jokrebel und mir angefordert wurden, und die du immer noch nicht geliefert hast.
[19:08] <bekks> Wir haben dir ganz klar gesagt, welche Informationen wir benötigen.
[19:08] <guestxxxx> ich kann leider nicht so weit zurückscrollen weil ich die seite neu laden musste :(
[19:08] <guestxxxx> entschuldige bitte meine unaufmerksamkeit
[19:08] <guestxxxx> oder das nicht erhalten der info vielleicht sogar
[19:09] <bekks> 0429 201540 < bekks> Dann zeig uns mal ein "dmesg" in einem Pastebin :)
[19:09] <guestxxxx> danke
[19:09] <bekks> 0429 201706 < jokrebel> guestxxxx_: Und wenn Du noch ein lsusb des (USB???)-Scanners herzeigst kann _ich_ einstweilen mal schaun ob ich dafür was finde.
[19:09] <guestxxxx> das mit dem dmesg hatte ich nicht gesehen oder gekriegt
[19:10] <guestxxxx> lsb usb sagt :" Bus 002 Device 008: ID 04a9:1909 Canon, Inc. CanoScan LiDE 110"
[19:10] <bekks> lsusb sagt noch viel mehr.
[19:11] <bekks> Schieb die komplette Ausgabe in einen Pastebin.
[19:11] <jokrebel> guestxxxx: Das komplette Backlog (leicht Zeitverzögert) findest Du hier http://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2015/04/29/%23ubuntu-de.html
[19:11] <kubine> jokrebel: Title: /srv/irclogs.ubuntu.com/2015/04/29/#ubuntu-de.txt (at irclogs.ubuntu.com)
[19:11] <jokrebel> bekks: Er hat WLAN und Scanner Probleme ;-)
[19:12] <bekks> Und DNS Probleme im Browser bei der Benutzung von telnet.
[19:12] <jokrebel> oder so
[19:12] <guestxxxx> komplette lsusb: http://pastebin.com/mcS0hUzy
[19:12] <kubine> guestxxxx: Title: guestxxxx_lsusb - Pastebin.com (at pastebin.com)
[19:13] <bekks> Dann brauchen wir neben den noch fehlenden Informationen noch dis Ausgabe von sudo lspci -k
[19:14] <guestxxxx> lspci ohne -k http://pastebin.com/LVqvjQGE
[19:14] <kubine> guestxxxx: Title: guestxxxx_lspci - Pastebin.com (at pastebin.com)
[19:14] <bekks> Mit -k ...
[19:15] * jokrebel muss jetzt glaub ins Bett; viel Erfolg noch guestxxxx + bekks
[19:15] <guestxxxx> mit k : http://pastebin.com/aEqNiGaC
[19:15] <kubine> guestxxxx: Title: xxxx_lspcie-k - Pastebin.com (at pastebin.com)
[19:16] <guestxxxx> ohne k hatte ich schon fertig gehabt ;) :)
[19:18] <guestxxxx> bin gerade bei dmesg etwas überfragt welche parameter ich brauche
[19:18] <guestxxxx> will das ja richtig machen
[19:19] <guestxxxx> :)
[19:19] <bekks> Dann hätte ich wohl Parameter genannt... ;)
[19:22] <guestxxxx> dmesg: http://pastebin.com/wVq24zhu
[19:22] <kubine> guestxxxx: Title: xxxx_dmesg - Pastebin.com (at pastebin.com)
[19:23] <bekks> Verwendest Du WPA oder WPA2?
[19:24] <guestxxxx> router müsste auf WPA/WPA2 mischbetrieb gestellt sein
[19:25] <guestxxxx> netzwerkkarte konfig muss ich schauen
[19:26] <guestxxxx> da habe ich WPA/WPA2 personal eingestellt
[19:26] <guestxxxx> also in der konfig der verbindung
[19:27] <guestxxxx> router läuft im mischmodus
[19:29] <bekks> Stell das doch mal auf WPA2 um.
[19:29] <guestxxxx> mache ich,dann bin ich nen moment aber weg denke ich,weil router das wlan neustartet und so :)
[19:30] <guestxxxx> bis gleich
[19:30] <guestxxxx> WPA2 (CCMP) wäre das dann,richtig?
[19:31] <guestxxxx> weil wenn ich den falsch verstelle dann muss ich in die nachbarwohnung stapfen und so :P
[19:37] <guestxxxx> da bin ich wieder
[19:43] <FliFlaFluffy> k-stz: Danke für die Unterstützung, werde das System einfach neu aufsetzen
[19:48] <bekks> Diesmal aber mit 14.04? :)
[19:48] <FliFlaFluffy> Nein, 15.04 :)
[19:49] <bekks> Um dann in 6 Monaten wieder solche Probleme zu haben? ;)
[19:50] <FliFlaFluffy> Ja, wie alle 6 Monate, all die Jahre hat kein Upgrade funktioniert, der Mensch ist nunmal ein Gewohnheitstier :)
[19:50] <bekks> Dann nimm 14.04 und denk 2019 wieder über ein Update nach.
[19:53] <FliFlaFluffy> Warum? Um störende Fehlermeldungen über Jahre zu haben?
[19:53] <bekks> Was denn für Fehlermeldungen?
[19:54] <FliFlaFluffy> Ich weis, bin selber schuld, hätte mir nunmal kein laptop mit einer Optimus-Karte kaufen sollen und dann auch noch die Erwartungshaltung haben, dass diese irgendwie anständig unterstützt wird
[19:54] <bekks> Was denn für Fehlermeldungen?
[19:55] <FliFlaFluffy> Habe fleissig die Bugs reported mit diesem Systeminternen Ding, dass dann fragte ob man all die personenbezogenen Daten senden möchte.
[19:55] <mrkramps> bekks, vergiss es. gibt heute keine fehlermeldungen mehr
[19:56] <mrkramps> FliFlaFluffy, hast du die nummer des bug reports?
[19:56] <bekks> Das schickt nur eine Rückmeldung an Canonical, und reported keinerlei Bugs. Sagt es aber auch.
[19:56] <FliFlaFluffy> Wie gesagt, Ursache waren meine Experimente mit Bumbelbee und den X-Swat Treibern
[19:56] <bekks> Ah, Experimente :) Ja dann :)
[19:56] <guestxxxx> bekks?
[19:56] <bekks> guestxxxx: Ja?
[19:56] <mrkramps> so ein PPA kann man auch wieder entfernen
[19:56] <guestxxxx> wlan problem ist immer noch da
[19:56] <guestxxxx> wieder avahi fehler im log
[19:56] <bekks> guestxxxx: Avahi ist egal.
[19:57] <guestxxxx> plus " <warn> nl_recvmsgs() error: (-33) Dump inconsistency detected, interrupted "
[19:57] <bekks> Und das komplette Log wieder in einen Pastebin :)
[19:58] <guestxxxx> syslog ist das dann :)
[19:59] <FliFlaFluffy> mrkramps: Trotzdem geht der xserver flöten bei einem Uphgrade und man landet auf einer shell ohne Netzwerk und ich bin kein Guru der schnell in die Zauberkiste greifft, wenn kein Interface zur Verfügung steht und folglich auch ein ifup scheitert
[20:00] <FliFlaFluffy> bekks: Ok, dann war mir dies nicht bewusst. Danke für den Hinweis.
[20:00] <guestxxxx> http://pastebin.com/232uEBGa
[20:00] <kubine> guestxxxx: Title: xxxx_syslog1 - Pastebin.com (at pastebin.com)
[20:01] <mrkramps> FliFlaFluffy, solltest dich für sowas mal mit der manpage von nmcli auseinandersetzen
[20:04] <bekks> guestxxxx: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/wpasupplicant/+bug/872578 - das kannst du dir ja mal angucken und dann ggf. einen Bug aufmachen.
[20:04] <kubine> bekks: Title: Bug #872578 “The infamous “deauthenticating by local choice (rea...” : Bugs : wpasupplicant package : Ubuntu (at bugs.launchpad.net)
[20:05] <guestxxxx> habe gerade mal update & dist-upgrade ins terminal geballert
[20:05] <guestxxxx> da gibts neue kernel zu installieren
[20:05] <guestxxxx> das mache ich auch mal
[20:07] <guestxxxx> kann ja nicht schaden :)
[20:09] <DerPunkt> nabend
[20:09] <DerPunkt> ich weis nicht ob ich heir richtig bin arm und ubuntu
[20:10] <mrkramps> !frag > DerPunkt
[20:10] <kubine> DerPunkt: Du brauchst nicht fragen, ob Du fragen darfst oder ob sich jemand auskennt. Das ist zwar höflich, würde aber den Channel sehr zuspammen, wenn dies jeder täte. Stell besser einfach Deine Frage – wenn jemand die Antwort kennt, wird er sie Dir nennen.
[20:10] <DerPunkt> hätte ja sein können das ubuntu nen extra channel für arm hat :)
[20:11] <bekks> Hat es - #ubuntu-arm :)
[20:12] <DerPunkt> sieste :)
[20:12] <DerPunkt> also war meine frage richtig :)
[20:12] <Rochvellon> gibts auch einen channel mit ubuntu und bein? *duck
[20:16] <DerPunkt> ich stelle die frage hier auch mal auch auf die gefahr hin ausgepeitscht zu werden ;) ich habe hier noch eine alte android console rumliegen möchte natürlich das android adee sagen bekomm ich da irgendwie ubuntu drauf? (tegra4)
[20:17] <Rochvellon> auf die schnelle: https://developer.nvidia.com/linux-tegra
[20:18] <DerPunkt> das hab ich natürlich auch schon gesehen
[20:18] <DerPunkt> aber das ist für das dev board
[20:18] <DerPunkt> oder ist es universal einsetzbar für alle tegra4?
[20:19] <bekks> Das musst Du Nvidia fragen :)
[20:19] <mrkramps> ich denke der tegra4 braucht einen eigenen kernel und bootloader
[20:20] <Rochvellon> auf die zweite schnelle: http://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/21031/linux-on-a-tegra-tablet-for-programming
[20:20] <kubine> Rochvellon: Title: ubuntu - Linux on a tegra tablet for programming - Unix & Linux Stack Exchange (at unix.stackexchange.com)
[20:21] <DerPunkt> Rochvellon: das halt alles das dev tablet
[20:21] <Rochvellon> als erstes solltest du dich erkundigen, ob treiber für deine hardware im linuxkernel vorhanden ist
[20:22] <DerPunkt> also wifi soweit ich weis gibt es
[20:22] <DerPunkt> atheros chip
[20:22] <DerPunkt> lan hdmi audio keine ahnung hab unter android nicht wirklich die specs auslesen können
[20:23] <mrkramps> ich denke mal, den grafikkartentreiber braucht man auch noch
[20:24] <DerPunkt> ist der nicht in der kernel mit dabei?
[20:25] <DerPunkt> habe da nicht soviel ahnung von aber das android nervt ein einfach darauf
[20:25] <mrkramps> nicht das, was der XServer für die grafikausgabe braucht
[20:25] <DerPunkt> oh ok
[20:25] <mrkramps> opentegra ist nicht in den paketquellen
[20:26] <DerPunkt> heist jetzt?
[20:26] <bekks> Einfach Ubuntu darauf installieren "ist nicht". ;)
[20:27] <DerPunkt> das dachte mir schon :)
[20:27] <DerPunkt> ist aber schlimm jeder arm herstellen backt eigene verbrannte brötchen
[20:28] <DerPunkt> und eine pi zu holen finde ich nicht so besonders wenn der tegra mehr power hat
[20:28] <mrkramps> DerPunkt, derzeit hat dein tegra gar keine power ;)
[20:28] <bekks> Was Dir ja nicht hilft, wenn du gar kein Linux auf den Tegra draufkriegst.
[20:29] <DerPunkt> eben
[20:29] <DerPunkt> geht ja um rein hardware specs
[20:29] <bekks> Also: wegschmeissen und rpi kaufen. :)
[20:29] <mrkramps> ich orakel jetzt mal, dass die unterstützung für die tegras auch nicht wirklich besser wird mit der zeit
[20:29] <Rochvellon> wobei, ginge das nicht, wenn man android als unterbau nimmt und darauf dann ein x laufen lässt?
[20:31] <DerPunkt> bekks: nee dafür ist es zu schade finde ich ;)
[20:31] <bekks> Mach nen Bilderrahmen drum und häng es an die Wand :)
[20:32] <DerPunkt> hat kein display :)
[20:33] <DerPunkt> ist ne reine console
[20:33] <DerPunkt> ok ausser ich pack nen hdmi ran
[20:33] <DerPunkt> +monitor
[20:33] <bekks> Ist bestimmt ein super Türstopper.
[20:34] <bekks> So, Spass beiseite. Ubuntu kannst du knicken auf dem Ding.
[20:34] <k1l> DerPunkt: bei arm ist es nicht so wie auf nem x86 desktop: cd rein und booten. wir haben bei arm keine generischen treiber. somit muss man ein iso für jede hardware konstellation bauen.
[20:35] <DerPunkt> k1l: double channel?
[20:36] <DerPunkt> :)
[20:36] <DerPunkt> bekks: hmm türstopper darüber kann man nachdenken :D
[20:36] <DerPunkt> von aussen würde es wie einer ausschauen
[20:36] <k1l> DerPunkt: also wenn du nicht selber die arbeit machen willst (treiber suchen, basissystem von ubuntu anpassen, etc etc) dann schau in der community von dem ding (was auch immer das ist) ob da jemand was probiert hat
[20:37] <DerPunkt> k1l: die arbeit würde ich mir machen muss aber auch wissen wo ich anfange und wie...
[20:37] <k1l> ja, damit fängt die arbeit an
[20:38] <DerPunkt> wenn man sowas nie gemacht hat ist es halt neuland
[20:39] <k1l> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ARM
[20:39] <kubine> k1l: Title: ARM - Ubuntu Wiki (at wiki.ubuntu.com)
[20:48] <DerPunkt> ich lese es mir mal durch :)
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[02:27] <magu42> .
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[21:42] <melodie> hi
[22:35] <melodie> I added a comment to #1448530
[22:35] <melodie> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/zram-config/+bug/1448530
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2015-04-29-#cloud-init
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[03:36] <bbradley> hello
[03:37] <bbradley> i'm having trouble with cloud config apt_sources working. anyone spare some help?
[03:37] <bbradley> i am using debian's cloud-init 0.7.6.
[03:40] <bbradley> i'm not going anywhere so just ping me.
[03:40] <bbradley> expect to bed but back after
[03:52] <bbradley> it seems i'm experiencing this bug: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/cloud-init/+bug/1355343
[06:44] <smoser> bbradley, can you give exmaple of cloud-config ?
[14:45] <bbradley> smoser: indeed
[14:45] <bbradley> http://pastebin.com/4uDjfG77
[14:46] <bbradley> and, everything else in the cloud config file works except for apt_sources.
[14:54] <bbradley> i may not be experienced that exact bug. but my sources.list is not being created by cloud-init and my sources.list.d is empty.
[14:55] <bbradley> experiencing
[16:11] <bbradley> i am going to attempt to try using a new version and see if that helps. but it seems hard at best since the only way i see to use cloud-init is install by package.
[17:28] <bbradley> meaning i have to create a package from the codebase to try.
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[19:32] <ibeardslee> morning
[22:59] <olly> morning
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2015-04-29-#ubuntu-tn
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[21:34] <elacheche_anis> yo Dro__ !
[21:35] <Dro__> ahla elacheche_anis
[21:35] <elacheche_anis> So, did it worked?
[21:36] <Dro__> elacheche_anis, yes
[21:36] <Dro__> el carte sat temchi 5/5 , ema eli 7ajti bih ma mchech :P
[21:36] <elacheche_anis> x)
[21:36] <Dro__> j'ai besoin de me connecter sur un serveur newcamd ou cccam :D
[21:38] <elacheche_anis> Have no idea how to do it :) :D
[21:38] <elacheche_anis> If you find a tutorial and need some help I can try to.. otherwise am sorry :p
[21:39] <Dro__> (ça permet d'ouvrir les chaines cryptées)
[21:40] <Dro__> femma un plugin esmou vdr-plugin-sc pour ça, ema j'arrive pas à le trouver
[21:41] <Dro__> mel sbe7 wena wa7ed fi : 50 alf sudo add-apt-repository ** w 50 alf sudo apt-get install vdr-plugin-sc
[21:45] <elacheche_anis> loool :)
[21:47] <elacheche_anis> Dro__, did you tried this one → ppa:aap/vdr
[21:48] <Dro__> oui jarabtou.. c'est ça le pb nchoufou nal9ah mawjoud fel lanchpad et après kif na3mel install y9olli paquet introuvable
[21:49] <elacheche_anis> did you used apt-get update after the add-apt-repository ?
[21:50] <Dro__> biensur
[21:50] <elacheche_anis> emm.. just a minute, am trying that.. I have a bad internet so need to wait for a while until the update finish
[21:51] <elacheche_anis> You're on what version exactly? trusty?
[21:52] <elacheche_anis> Actually I can find it using that PPA on my Trusty.. Maybe the package is not available for your version, do you know how to check your ubuntu version?
[21:52] <Dro__> oui trusty
[21:53] <elacheche_anis> very weird.. Try this → sudo apt-cache search vdr-plugin-sc
[21:53] <elacheche_anis> You should found about 10 lines as result..
[21:53] <elacheche_anis> Do you?
[21:54] <Dro__> attends, je vais essayer de rajouter ce même ppa et voir
[21:54] <elacheche_anis> OK
[21:56] <Dro__> nn nn berrasmi bizarre !!! :o
[21:56] <elacheche_anis> ?!!
[21:56] <Dro__> bekri bark ajoutitou le même aap/vdr w ma mchech
[21:56] <Dro__> tawa mché lol
[21:57] <elacheche_anis> :)
[21:57] <Dro__> lol
[21:58] <Dro__> le pb jarabtou 2 fois et ça n'a pas marché !!
[21:58] <Dro__> history | grep aap
[21:58] <Dro__> :
[21:58] <Dro__> 2007 sudo add-apt-repository ppa:aap/vdr
[21:58] <Dro__> 2009 sudo add-apt-repository --remove ppa:aap/vdr
[21:58] <Dro__> 2020 sudo add-apt-repository ppa:aap/vdr
[21:58] <Dro__> 2022 sudo add-apt-repository --remove ppa:aap/vdr
[21:58] <Dro__> 2062 sudo add-apt-repository ppa:aap/vdr
[21:59] <Dro__> 3lech fel 3eme t3adda? 5af mennek ! :P
[22:00] <elacheche_anis> Who knows :D ;)
[22:05] <Dro__> il est installé w ma tzadech fel vdr... bech ymaradhni hetha lyoum...
[22:06] <elacheche_anis> emmm.. Make sure that vdr is loading every single plugin..
[22:06] <Dro__> apparemment c'est une ancienne version / ou non compatible ...
[22:06] <Dro__> elacheche_anis, normalement quand on installe un nouveau plugin tal9ah fel /var/lib/vdr/plugins
[22:07] <elacheche_anis> Dro__, http://projects.vdr-developer.org/git/vdr.git/plain/PLUGINS.html#Loading%20plugins%20into%20VDR
[22:07] <elacheche_anis> You can load it manually too ;)
[22:08] <Dro__> ey tnejem tloadih kif yabda mawjoud.. déjà je fais cette étape pour loader les autres plugins.. mais hetha mouch mawjoud asl :p
[22:08] <Dro__> bref yezzini ma kassart kraymi pour aujourd'hui ! tawa demain narja3 net3arek m3ah :D
[22:08] <elacheche_anis> Emmm.. Let me try a thing
[22:08] <Dro__> try :P
[22:09] <Dro__> ema dhaharli el plugin-sc hetha tbadel w wella esmou dvbapi houwa zeda.. (je suis pas sure)
[22:09] <elacheche_anis> hahahaha x)
[22:09] <Dro__> ntabba3 fi des forums allemands bech l9it 3lih 7ajet... http://www.digital-eliteboard.com/161058-sc-plugin-unter-yavdr-installieren-8.html
[22:09] <Dro__> do5t :P
[22:10] <elacheche_anis> Dro__, that plugin was installed under → /usr/lib/vdr/plugins/libvdr-sc.so.2.1.6
[22:11] <Dro__> maw kif na3mel recherche sur google 3la "vdr-plugin-sc" ma femmech des résultat ba3d 2013 (za3ma à ce point il n'est pas utilisé ?)
[22:11] <Dro__> par contre femma un dvbapi hetha kayenou ychabahlou ema m3a9ed :P
[22:11] <elacheche_anis> Dro__, that plugin was installed under → /usr/lib/vdr/plugins/
[22:13] <Dro__> mais non, j'ai pas besoin de .so 3ad.. les autres plugins normalement ykoun fihom des fichiers .conf ... etc
[22:13] <elacheche_anis> emmm I see
[22:14] <Dro__> voila: il doit être installé dans ce dossier: ~$ ls /var/lib/vdr/plugins/
[22:14] <Dro__> epgsearch live streamdev-server vnsiserver vnsiserver5 xineliboutput xvdr
[22:14] <Dro__> exp de plugin: $ ls /var/lib/vdr/plugins/xvdr/
[22:14] <Dro__> allowed_hosts.conf xvdr.conf
[22:16] <elacheche_anis> I did not install any other plugins in my OS.. So by checking that directory I can't find it.. It didn't created a config file..
[22:16] <Dro__> oui, je sais :p
[22:16] <elacheche_anis> I run the find command.. maybe I'll find it somewhere else..
[22:19] <elacheche_anis> Dro__, I find this → /etc/vdr/plugins/sc but it's empty
[22:20] <elacheche_anis> /etc/vdr/scr.conf
[22:21] <Dro__> j'ai le meme dossier, do5t sayé
[22:21] <elacheche_anis> /etc/vdr/scr.conf
[22:24] <Dro__> déjà les autres plugins mawjoudin zeda dans ce dossier aussi
[22:24] <Dro__> mais sc n'est pas detecté par vdr
[22:25] <elacheche_anis> Dro__, contact the PPA maintainer and ask him why! I'm sure that he'll know the answer.. :)
[22:26] <Dro__> sudo /etc/init.d/vdr restart
[22:26] <Dro__> Restarting Linux Video Disk Recorder: vdr - seems not to be running
[22:26] <Dro__> Searching for plugins (VDR 2.2.0/2.2.0) (cache hit): quickepgsearch live epgsearch epgsearchonly xineliboutput streamdev-server conflictcheckonly xvdr.
[22:26] <Dro__> tu vois, pas de sc
[22:26] <Dro__> oui, je vais re-essayer demain , tawa sayé KO :D
[22:26] <elacheche_anis> Dro__, contact the PPA maintainer and ask him why! I'm sure that he'll know the answer.. :)
[22:27] <elacheche_anis> Time to go for me too :) Good luck and have a good day :)
[22:27] <elacheche_anis> I mean night x(
[22:27] <Dro__> merci elacheche_anis
[22:27] <Dro__> thx for ur help :P
[22:28] <Dro__> a+
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2015-04-29-#ubuntu-gnome
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[01:24] <Thesaurus> I'm on 14.04.2 and was wondering which firewall GUI is the most compatible with the system. Wasn't sure if I should go for the Gnome Firewall or the GUI or UFW
[03:33] <darkxst> Thesaurus, ufw is probably the easiest to use for simple stuff
[06:37] <ciscam> am I doing something wrong or are constant 'system errors' every ten minutes normal in this distribution?
[06:40] <ciscam> running a mint 15.04 install
[06:40] <ciscam> most features are smooth, the only thing that didn't work like a charm was the animations in the ubuntu software center
[07:10] <mgedmin> ciscam, no, that's not normal
[07:11] <mgedmin> what's the program that crashes?
[12:49] <mitchdavis2792> Hi everyone, I just updated my Ubuntu Gnome 14.10 to 15.04 on my Dell XPS 8700 and since the upgrade I am no longer able to open my System Settings menu. Does anyone have any suggestions?
[12:50] <mgedmin> can you run gnome-control-center in a terminal and see if you get any error messages?
[12:51] <mitchdavis2792> Hm, that worked.
[12:51] <mitchdavis2792> Possible that the mapping didn't correctly upgrade?
[12:52] <mitchdavis2792> Now another weird thing I noticed. While in Settings I tried opening Power but it freezes the window and I get a error. Re-opening it and trying it again I get the same problem.
[12:57] <mgedmin> same here
[12:58] <mgedmin> do you have the staging ppa enabled?
[12:58] <mitchdavis2792> I do not, this a fresh install. Haven't added any ppa's outside of what was included.
[12:58] <mgedmin> hmm
[12:59] <mgedmin> oh wait I remember the freezes too, but now they're gone for me (I've the staging PPA)
[12:59] <mgedmin> anyway reporting a bug would be a good thing to do
[13:00] <mitchdavis2792> Ok, I reported the bug. You said the staging ppa fixed it the power menu issue and opening system settings issue?
[13:02] <mitchdavis2792> actually wait, since I ran that gnome-control-center I'm now able to open the menu again without the command.
[13:03] <mitchdavis2792> but does that staging ppa fix the power menu issue?
[14:30] <LinDol> hi all
[17:04] <towo> So, is the weird squarish theme in the staging PPA a bug or just the new default look?
[22:47] <hunter> Hello everyone! I am looking for a way to make scrolling "faster" in 15.04.
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2015-04-29-#ubuntu-server
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[02:18] <Valduare> hi guys
[02:19] <Valduare> should ubuntu core be used for spinning up vms now?
[02:19] <sarnold> if you need something to fit in a .tiny instance, perhaps
[02:22] <Valduare> so not for seting up an nginx server then?
[02:22] <sarnold> feel free to give it a shot; it may or may not be missing some of the comforts you might be used to :)
[02:23] <Valduare> what would an example of that be :)
[02:24] <sarnold> syslog :)
[02:25] <Valduare> so no /var/logs?
[02:26] <sarnold> unless programs open the log files themselves.. :)
[02:26] <Valduare> oh so nginx would still be able to write its logs
[02:27] <sarnold> aha! a package manifest http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-core/releases/14.04/release/ubuntu-core-14.04-core-amd64.manifest
[02:27] <Valduare> but something like dmesg would not be viewable in the logs?
[02:27] <sarnold> right
[02:27] <sarnold> granted you can install whatever you want
[02:27] <Valduare> dont think i’ve used dmesg from the logs just running the command myself
[02:27] <sarnold> hunh, rsyslog is on tha tlist..
[02:31] <Valduare> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Core
[02:31] <Valduare> says its installable
[02:32] <sarnold> I was just surprised to find it in the .manifest file; which made me wonder what the manifest file represents...
[02:34] <Valduare> importing the ova of ubuntu core to check it out
[04:07] <shellox> hi, is anyone using the ubuntu cloud vagrant images
[04:08] <shellox> https://cloud-images.ubuntu.com/vagrant/trusty/current/
[08:12] <lordievader> Good morning.
[08:42] <jcastro_> rbasak, https://github.com/lxc/lxd/issues/558
[14:11] <samba35> i am trying to install postfix with tls ,can some one pls tell me how do i install certificate for postfix
[14:15] <pmatulis> samba35: lots of information out there. what have you tried so far?
[14:15] <samba35> i failed to get it correct installtion ,i think
[14:20] <samba35> pmatulis: do you have any handy web site or blog to configur postfix with tls
[14:35] <pmatulis> samba35: http://www.postfix.org/documentation.html
[14:37] <samba35> yes , i follow that but ...ok , let me give another try again
[14:39] <pmatulis> samba35: take the time to understand stuff, email servers are tricky beasts, even without TLS
[14:40] <samba35> ok
[15:46] <bugs_bugger> hi can anybody help me recover from this apache2 configtest error: Cannot load /usr/lib/apache2/modules/mod_access_compat.so
[15:47] <bugs_bugger> system specs: 12.04, apache2.2, tried upgrade php5.4 via ppa (ondrej) and ppa-purge, which left me with this error
[16:01] <bugs_bugger> ok, i solved the problem: i disabled some mods: access_compat, mpm_prefork, authn_core, authz_core, socache_shmcb. anyone happen to know about them?
[16:23] <ndee> I remember there was a tool which analyzes the log file (apache/nginx) for suspicious requests and sends you an email with them but I forgot the name of it. Anyone knows such a tool?
[16:41] <devster31> where can I find a starting guide to cross-compiling for arm and TravisCI?
[16:44] <teward> ndee: i can think of quite a few tools to achieve notification, however the tools I'm thinking of are IDS/IPS at the border of the network, not log review tools.
[16:45] <teward> ndee: as long as you keep up to date with security patches and such, for both the websites and the web servers, the risk of some of the 'requests' being actually bad ultimately is limited
[16:46] <ndee> teward: the website is up to date but there are some extensions that are in usage which are unsafe. It happened already once, that a malicious php file was uploaded.
[16:48] <teward> ndee: well, you have the option to disable extensions, no? The problem is log analysis after the fact doesn't help you
[16:48] <teward> not reall
[16:48] <teward> really*
[16:49] <teward> because they've already exploited the environment. You would end up having to start anew and patch and disable things *anyways*
[16:49] <ndee> I know, but at least that way, I could notice the problem very fast and then disable the unsafe extension.
[17:55] <patdk-wk> well, fixing things up with rewritecond and/or mod_security would be a good first step
[17:55] <patdk-wk> also would be good, would be some apparmor rules
[19:23] <william_home> hello, could someone point me at a contact person for a bug in the cloud archive packages on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ServerTeam/CloudArchive#Kilo
[19:24] <william_home> when installing ceph-deploy (which is not in the cloud archive update) there is a duplicate manpage which disallows install ceph
[19:29] <sarnold> william_home: I think Odd_Bloke may be a good starting point
[19:30] <william_home> ok thanx
[19:30] <william_home> Odd_Bloke: any ideas?
[19:41] <pmatulis> william_home: start by reporting the bug maybe - https://bugs.launchpad.net/cloud-archive/+filebug
[19:44] <Odd_Bloke> william_home: I'm not the best point of contact; a bug is definitely your best course of action.
[19:45] <Odd_Bloke> william_home: And maybe after that you can bug jamespage...
[19:46] <william_home> pmatulis: and Odd_Bloke, will do. reporting the bug as we speak.
[19:51] <william_home> jamespage: https://bugs.launchpad.net/cloud-archive/+bug/1450175
[19:51] <william_home> ;)
[21:04] <teward> rbasak: ping
[21:17] <jkyle> is there a list of changes in the ubuntu preseed for 15.04 vs. 14.04?
[22:34] <sarnold> pmatulis: oh cool, I hadn't seen https://bugs.launchpad.net/cloud-archive/+filebug before; that definitely beats pinging strange dudes on irc :)
[23:17] <pmatulis> sarnold: then again, nothin' wrong with a little socializing...
[23:18] <sarnold> pmatulis: hehe, true :)
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2015-04-29-#ubuntu-ro
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[09:16] <d3v1l> salut sunteti romani ?
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ubuntu-chat
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2015-04-29-#ubuntu-ci-eng
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[00:08] <ToyKeeper> Sorry, I can't discern any change from silo 6. The scenario in the bug doesn't actually fail, and the silo doesn't appear to change the behavior.
[00:13] <sil2100> ToyKeeper: hmmm
[00:15] <ToyKeeper> I note it was tested originally on an image from a different server and different feed, with different numbering... and the two sets of images don't always behave the same.
[00:30] <sil2100> Anyway, it's already super-late here so I need to go to sleep
[00:30] <sil2100> Goodnight o/
[03:57] <bzoltan> anybody who knows how to fix the phablet-click-test-setup?
[05:17] <Mirv> bzoltan: it's again the same remove basic_packages, since now they are from the overlay by default
[07:17] <jibel> bzoltan, good morning, is silo 17 ready for QA?
[08:56] <jibel> bzoltan, ping
[09:21] <sil2100> bzoltan: hey, how's silo 17?
[10:21] <Mirv> sil2100: jibel: he's eating now, from what I've gathered they changed their approach (/MP) and need a rebuild which I just kicked since zoltan's build attempt failed as seen above
[10:21] <sil2100> Mirv: ACK, thanks :)
[11:04] <Mirv> sil2100: oh, so someone still sets the overlay field without doing a reconfigure sometimes.....
[11:04] <Mirv> so annoying
[11:05] <Mirv> so regardless if it's set or not, it still pretty much holds true that whenever doing a publish, always reconfigure + build watch_only first since there's no way to know
[11:05] <bzoltan> ogra_: is there a particulal reason why this MR was not laneded? It is a super simple fix and it does fix my problem :) https://code.launchpad.net/~bzoltan/phablet-tools/single_quotation_for_spaced_SSID/+merge/255500
[11:10] <sil2100> Mirv: the dashboard has the right info it seems
[11:10] <sil2100> Mirv: if you look at the CI Train Dashboard, it will tell you when the silo is configured for the overlay PPA
[11:10] <Mirv> sil2100: oh!!
[11:11] <Mirv> sil2100: thanks to robru for that I guess! that should do it..
[11:11] <sil2100> Indeed :) Although we tend to forget about that anyway and blindly push the monkey button
[11:11] <Mirv> the monkey team
[11:20] <sil2100> If the trainguards had an LP team, our logo would be monkeys on the train in train-conductor hats
[11:28] <Mirv> sil2100: exactly! :)
[11:31] <Mirv> http://www.weirdasianews.com/2010/11/22/monkeys-appointed-stationmasters-japan/
[11:32] <sil2100> Oh god...
[11:50] * sil2100 on lunch
[13:46] <ogra_> bzoltan, the particular reason is that i didnt see it yet :)
[13:46] <ogra_> not sure how to go about landing it though
[13:46] <bzoltan> ogra_: OK, that one I can accept
[13:47] <bzoltan> ogra_: SRU? LOL
[13:47] <ogra_> haha
[13:47] <bzoltan> ogra_: My network here is "Foo Bar" and I have had problems pushing it to the device
[13:47] <ogra_> well, we only need it in the PPAs i guess ... at least for a start
[13:51] <rvr> sil2100: I found an apparently new crasher for oxide. It is not happening in RTM/krillin. davmor2 confirmed, and oSoMoN and chrisccoulson are investigating https://bugs.launchpad.net/oxide/+bug/1450021
[13:58] <sil2100> rvr: *sigh* is it something new in the new oxide, or does it happen on the arale already?
[14:06] <rvr> sil2100: Already, AFAIK
[14:06] <rvr> sil2100: At least using image 26
[14:31] <jibel> sil2100, when 17 lands, can you respin a new image? or you prefer to wait for oxide?
[14:32] <sil2100> jibel: do we need a new oxide built? Since the reason it failed QA is because of the crash, which seems to be an old issue, right?
[14:33] <pmcgowan> sil2100, jibel the crash is in 1.7.3 as well
[14:33] <pmcgowan> so 1.7.4 is better but not yet perfect
[14:33] <pmcgowan> so we can land it and loo at the new crash
[14:34] <sil2100> Then is oxide-qt still in sign-off?
[14:34] <pmcgowan> the crash is not in 1.6 howver
[14:34] <jibel> pmcgowan, OK
[14:34] <sil2100> If it is in sign-off, I wouold wait for oxide
[14:34] <sil2100> (if, of course, it doesn't fail somehow else)
[14:35] <jibel> rvr, if nothing else than this crash and it is not a regressino in 1.7.4 compared to 1.7.3, can you sign it off?
[14:36] <rvr> jibel: Is it not a regression compared to 1.7.3. Signing off.
[14:36] <jibel> thanks
[14:37] <sil2100> bzoltan: we need this approved :) https://code.launchpad.net/~tpeeters/ubuntu-ui-toolkit/trunk-old-header/+merge/257684
[14:38] <sil2100> jibel, rvr: thanks guys :)
[14:43] <sil2100> Ok, assuming all is ok
[14:44] <sil2100> Overriding the unapproved branch
[14:44] <josepht> michi: disk space has been freed and jobs are running and succeeding again.
[14:46] <sil2100> Ok, anything else we need?
[14:47] <sil2100> I guess we have all packages we need
[14:47] <sil2100> Let me kick a new image soon
[14:48] <pmcgowan> sil2100, what did you decide on oxide jibel ?
[14:48] <sil2100> pmcgowan: it has been published
[14:48] <pmcgowan> oh too quick
[14:48] <pmcgowan> thanks
[14:48] <sil2100> davmor2 didn't see anything besides this crash which is not a regression :)
[14:48] <jibel> pmcgowan, landed as it not a regression in 1.74 compared to 1.7.3
[14:48] <pmcgowan> vg
[14:49] <davmor2> sil2100: credit where credit is due rvr found the bug not me I just confirmed it
[14:50] <sil2100> Indeed, sorry ;)
[14:50] <sil2100> pmcgowan, jibel: once the PPA fully publishes the copies I'll kick a new image
[15:17] <rsalveti> sil2100: pmcgowan: we got a small fix for the device tarball (creating a missing dev entry) that fixes the hotspot support for arale
[15:17] <rsalveti> sil2100: pmcgowan: I'm reviewing the change, but then don't know what will happen once approved
[15:18] <rsalveti> doesn't affect anything else, as it was a missing device file only needed for hotspot
[15:18] <rsalveti> what should we do?
[15:21] <pmcgowan> rsalveti, seems we can wait
[15:23] <rsalveti> abeato: pmcgowan: alright, approved the mr but didn't yet merge it, will merge once we can land new changes there
[15:24] <abeato> rsalveti, ok
[15:27] <sil2100> rsalveti: hmmm, ok, so merging it in results in the change being released into the device tarball?
[15:30] <imgbot> [15:30] <pmcgowan> 187 ftw
[15:31] <rsalveti> sil2100: I think so, iirc they were all automatic
[15:31] <rsalveti> sil2100: but even if not, in case we need to trigger a new device tarball, it will be included then as a side effect
[15:49] <michi> josepht: Thank you very much for you help!
[15:50] <josepht> michi: my pleasure
[15:55] <davidbarth> o/ morning trainguards, looking for a silo for the request on line 30
[15:56] <sil2100> o/
[16:01] <sil2100> davidbarth: silo assigned, but both packages are already in silo 10
[16:29] <sil2100> Image rootfs just finished building
[16:45] <imgbot> [16:45] <imgbot> [16:48] * ogra_ wonders what that lxc-android-config is there
[16:52] <ogra_> rsalveti, lxc-android-config 0.220 ? not 0.219vivid1 ?
[16:52] <jibel> ogra_, it was a fix for bug 1425880
[16:52] <ogra_> jibel, sure, not objecting that :)
[16:53] * ogra_ needs to reboot ... silly arale killed my whole USB stack on the laptop
[16:57] <rsalveti> ogra_: right, was thinking about syncing that right once w opens
[16:57] <rsalveti> ogra_: but yeah, maybe it's just better to append vivid for all native packages
[17:32] <sil2100> pmcgowan: ubuntu-rtm/landing-003 silo has the back-port of the disappearing scopes fix :)
[17:32] <sil2100> Once QA has some free cycles after RC testing I'll ask them to sign that off too
[17:34] <pmcgowan> sil2100, ah forgot about that one
[17:35] <pmcgowan> sil2100, problem is if we dont spin another image that missed the boat
[17:35] <sil2100> pmcgowan: that's for the hotfix OTA
[17:35] <sil2100> pmcgowan: it's from ubuntu-rtm :)
[17:35] <pmcgowan> sil2100, oh right duh
[17:36] <sil2100> pmcgowan: we already have the fix in vivid so no worries here
[17:53] <Saviq> fginther, hey, does the artifact collection thingy (test*xml) look for the files recursively or shall I keep it flat?
[17:58] <fginther> Saviq, it should be recursive, though I can't find an example anywhere to prove it
[17:58] <fginther> Saviq, as long as the job has the right definition '**/test*xml' for example.
[17:59] <Saviq> fginther, we'll have an example soon, then ;)
[19:01] <om26er> oSoMoN, Hi!
[19:02] <om26er> oSoMoN, I am seeing a white area at the bottom of fullscreen videos in portrait mode.
[19:02] <om26er> oSoMoN, its probably related to the "exit from fullscreen videos inside browser" change.
[19:08] <ogra_> om26er, that was discussed here a few times at the sprint, i bet there is a bug for it
[19:09] <oSoMoN> om26er, nope, it’s bug #1449188, and it’s fixed by oxide 1.7.4
[19:09] <om26er> ogra_, oSoMoN thanks both
[19:14] <om26er> oSoMoN, when a video is being played in the browser and I try to open a new website in the same tab, browser disappears. poof!
[19:15] * ogra_ blames jhodapp :P
[19:16] <oSoMoN> om26er, what version of oxide do you have on that device? if 1.7.3, can you upgrade to 1.7.4 and let me know whether you can still reproduce?
[19:16] * jhodapp is innocent
[19:18] <om26er> oSoMoN, where to get 1.7.4 ?
[19:19] <ogra_> there is a silo somewhere
[19:20] <oSoMoN> om26er, in the overlay PPA
[19:20] <om26er> oSoMoN, aah I have 1.7.4 already
[19:20] <om26er> oSoMoN, 1.7.4-0ubuntu0.15.04.1~ppa1
[19:20] <oSoMoN> darn
[19:20] <oSoMoN> let me try and reproduce that crash then
[19:20] <oSoMoN> om26er, do you have a crash file?
[19:22] <om26er> oSoMoN, crash file is pretty useless atleast it looks like it
[19:22] <om26er> the oops is empty https://errors.ubuntu.com/oops/fdc517da-eea2-11e4-ac05-fa163e75317b
[19:23] <oSoMoN> om26er, how big is the crash file?
[19:25] <om26er> oSoMoN, the previous one was very small, I deleted that. The one that is created now is 17 mbs
[19:25] <oSoMoN> om26er, that’s much better, can you send it my way?
[19:25] <om26er> oSoMoN, I'll email that. In the meantime https://errors.ubuntu.com/oops/5cf46740-eea5-11e4-a5c5-fa163e4aaad4
[19:30] <oSoMoN> om26er, I can reproduce the crash, I’m getting a crash file here too
[19:33] <om26er> oSoMoN, hmm, hopefully it'll be a simple fix
[19:34] <oSoMoN> om26er, I suspect it’s a duplicate of https://bugs.launchpad.net/oxide/+bug/1450021 , I’ll be able to confirm in a minute
[19:34] <oSoMoN> yup, confirmed
[19:35] <oSoMoN> om26er, this will be fixed in oxide 1.7.6, which will be building in a PPA very soon
[19:35] <om26er> oSoMoN, thats good to know, thanks
[22:26] <pmcgowan> om26er, ToyKeeper you guys still image testing?
[22:27] <ToyKeeper> pmcgowan: The regression suite for image 29 is about a third done.
[22:28] <ToyKeeper> However, the suite for 28 was about 85% done and I doubt we need to repeat all of it for 29.
[22:30] <ToyKeeper> pmcgowan: Oh, just realized the tests for 29 are already trimmed down... so it's about a third done, and the simple answer is "yes, still image testing".
[22:42] <pmcgowan> ToyKeeper, thanks
[22:43] <ToyKeeper> (have been a little side-tracked by bugs today, like we just found out the UI for adding a payment method is broken)
[22:43] <pmcgowan> oh
[22:44] <ToyKeeper> Probably related to the browser updates, but maybe not. Need to try it on older versions and other platforms to find out.
[23:15] <ToyKeeper> Might block the ability to buy apps at all. D'oh.
[23:15] <ToyKeeper> Will have more info in a bit.
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2015-04-29-#ubuntu-si
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[00:08] <upd> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9qVF5_4FPls
[00:08] <Seniorita> Baltimore Freddie Gray Rioting at Camden Yards 4/25/15 - YouTube
[00:08] <Seniorita> »Baltimore protesters riot outside of Camden Yards at Pickle's and Sliders around 6:20 p.m. before an Orioles game scheduled at 7:05 p.m. 4/25/15«
[06:30] <slax0r> jutro
[06:38] <Sky[x]> lp
[06:38] <napsy> jutro
[06:39] <pitastrudl> jutor
[06:40] <pitastrudl> jutro*
[06:40] <Sky[x]> na obali mamo sonce ze wiii :)
[06:40] <zdobersek> kaj delas na obali mona
[06:40] <napsy> v lj je tut sonce :)
[06:41] <zdobersek> v CE je tud sonce
[06:41] <zdobersek> so don't patent it
[06:41] <Sky[x]> wiii
[06:41] <pitastrudl> wiiiiiiii
[07:10] <pitastrudl> http://i.imgur.com/U0iADj9.gifv
[07:11] <Sky[x]> pitastrudl: macja ribica :D
[07:12] <pitastrudl> :DD
[07:32] <idioterna> http://i.imgur.com/0z4usby.gif
[07:34] <zdobersek> I'M IN A BOX https://i.imgur.com/yOJj6X9.webm
[07:35] <pitastrudl> heh
[07:55] <miha> Dan.. Tu imam en asus .. N65u, ki je vpn client.. Vse vredu, samo predstavi se z mac s samimi 00 a se da to kako spremeniti
[07:56] <miha> Ker bo se kak asus pa rabim različen mac za static dhcp
[07:57] <miha> Se da to spremeniti prek ssh? Prek web ne vidim opcije
[08:03] <Seniorita> [Ubuntu.si] R33D3M33R: RE: [rešeno] [15.04] Vlc - nerazrešene odvisnosti https://www.ubuntu.si/forum/discussion/comment/42909#Comment_42909
[08:06] <dz0ny> napsy: http://go-talks.appspot.com/github.com/davecheney/presentations/reproducible-builds.slide#20
[08:06] <Seniorita> Reproducible Builds
[08:08] <dz0ny> napsy: github.com/constabulary/gb/
[08:08] <napsy> to pa bom pogledu :)
[08:08] <napsy> thx
[08:11] <dz0ny> zgleda da je trend da se ostale module "zapakira" z source
[08:12] <Sky[x]> ubuntu 15.04 j izsel? :>
[08:12] <zdobersek> vec odavno
[08:14] <Sky[x]> Ubuntu 15.04 je tako ena izmed dolgočasnejših, a zato nič slabših nadgradenj.
[08:14] <Sky[x]> :D
[08:14] <Sky[x]> iz s-t
[08:18] <Seniorita> [Ubuntu.si] CrazyLemon: RE: Nadgradnja Ubuntu 14.10-15.04 https://www.ubuntu.si/forum/discussion/comment/42910#Comment_42910
[08:18] <dz0ny> men je vsšeč k je napisal Systemd
[08:18] <dz0ny> :>
[08:19] <dz0ny> al je slovenščina spet posebnost
[08:19] <Seniorita> [Ubuntu.si] CrazyLemon: RE: [rešeno] [15.04] Vlc - nerazrešene odvisnosti https://www.ubuntu.si/forum/discussion/comment/42911#Comment_42911
[08:19] <dz0ny> it should be SystemD, WordPress etc
[08:19] <CrazyLemon> zakaj ne systemD!?!
[08:25] <zdobersek> you just got System'd!
[08:30] <dz0ny> windows 10 and windows mobile will support android runtime
[08:30] <jabuk> http://danceswithfat.files.wordpress.com/2011/08/victory.jpg
[08:30] <dz0ny> "There is no hell anymore!"
[08:31] <zdobersek> a bojo pol Google Play gor vrgl?
[08:31] <dz0ny> :)
[08:31] <dz0ny> http://phandroid.com/2015/04/28/microsoft-windows-10-android-apps/
[08:31] <Seniorita> Rumor: Microsoft could make it possible to run Android apps on Windows 10
[08:31] <Seniorita> »Windows enthusiast blogger Paul Thurrott has revealed that Microsoft will most likely announce that Windows 10 will support Android apps. The details are slim, but we imagine it wouldn't be much different than what Blackberry did a couple of years ago.«
[08:32] <dz0ny> zdobersek: sam runtime
[08:32] <zdobersek> dz0ny: kje so pa appi?
[08:32] <dz0ny> v microsoft store
[08:33] <jabuk> M 1.1 > 1.km od TRBOVELJ @29/04/2015 10:24:26 https://maps.google.com/?q=46.15+N,+15.07+E
[08:33] <dz0ny> bo pa to zelo slabo k bo prevec malwara
[08:33] <dz0ny> in bodo rekl da je android kriv :)
[08:35] <Seniorita> [Ubuntu.si] R33D3M33R: RE: [rešeno] [15.04] Vlc - nerazrešene odvisnosti https://www.ubuntu.si/forum/discussion/comment/42912#Comment_42912
[08:35] <LorD_DDooM> Tudi BlackBerry ima že leta (zelo dobro) runtime Android podporo. Lahko celoten Google Play repository uvoziš in inštaliraš appe. Pomagalo jim je točno nič.
[08:35] <zdobersek> kaj od androida pokrivajo MS patenti?
[08:36] <zdobersek> Amazon ma nekej podobnega na Fire liniji
[08:36] <Seniorita> [Ubuntu.si] R33D3M33R: RE: Nadgradnja Ubuntu 14.10-15.04 https://www.ubuntu.si/forum/discussion/comment/42913#Comment_42913
[08:37] <zdobersek> ne vem, ce so lih kompatibilni z Google Play
[08:38] <zdobersek> vec al manj je forkan Android
[08:38] <LorD_DDooM> Jaz imam Kindle Fire HDX 7, ima svoj store, večina Android appov ni kompatibilnih AFAIK.
[08:43] <dz0ny> zdobersek: its android with custom theme
[09:34] <CrazyLemon> its android on fire!
[09:49] <CrazyLemon> https://www.google.com/webmasters/tools/mobile-friendly/
[09:49] <Seniorita> Mobile-Friendly Test
[10:12] <Seniorita> [Web Upd8] Andrew: Fresh Player Plugin 0.2.4 Released With Accelerated Rendering Enabled By Default, High DPI Support http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/webupd8/~3/qnanV_SIMNg/fresh-player-plugin-024-released-with.html
[11:14] <Seniorita> [Ubuntu.si] CrazyLemon: RE: Ventilator skoraj z "polno hitrostjo" po "standby" https://www.ubuntu.si/forum/discussion/comment/42914#Comment_42914
[12:22] <Seniorita> [Web Upd8] Andrew: Organize Your Unity Launcher Based On The Current Workspace With LSwitcher http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/webupd8/~3/AKfeD19Qc-w/organize-your-unity-launcher-based-on.html
[12:44] <CrazyLemon> https://www.facebook.com/pages/Ubuntu-Slovenija/1465726773715760?ref=profile
[12:44] <CrazyLemon> wtf?
[12:44] <Seniorita> Ubuntu Slovenija | Facebook
[12:44] <Seniorita> »UBUNTU Kontribucijonizem UBUNTU Kontribucijski SistemUBUNTU Kot Politična StrankaČE STVAR NI...«
[12:45] <idioterna> a to je neki en vzporedno naredu
[12:45] <CrazyLemon> ja.. ta https://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100008396647705
[12:45] <Seniorita> Ubuntu Slovenija | Facebook
[12:45] <Seniorita> »Ubuntu Slovenija je na Facebooku. Pridruži se Facebooku in se poveži z Ubuntu Slovenija in drugimi znanci. Facebook omogoča ljudem, da delijo, ter...«
[12:47] <CrazyLemon> https://www.facebook.com/pages/Ubuntu-Party-Slovenia/1418757898391924?fref=ts
[12:47] <Seniorita> Ubuntu Party Slovenia | Facebook
[12:47] <Seniorita> »Ubuntu stranka Slovenije je stranka v nastajanju.Vabljeni k sodelovanju.«
[12:47] <CrazyLemon> https://www.facebook.com/pages/Ubuntu-slovenia/297290623764629?ref=ts&fref=ts
[12:47] <Seniorita> Ubuntu slovenia | Facebook
[12:47] <Seniorita> »Enotnost in višja za vest za nov svet«
[12:56] <zdobersek> hahahahahahahahahaha
[12:56] <zdobersek> CrazyLemon: WATCH YA BACK
[12:57] <zdobersek> koncno en release party
[13:00] <napsy> ve kdo, a bo jutri kresovanje na rozniku?
[13:02] <napsy> nikjer nic ne najdem na netu
[13:05] <idioterna> verjetn je ze razprodan :)
[13:05] <Seniorita> [Ubuntu.si] R33D3M33R: RE: Ventilator skoraj z "polno hitrostjo" po "standby" https://www.ubuntu.si/forum/discussion/comment/42915#Comment_42915
[13:13] <napsy> ma zanima me sam kdo bo kj igral
[13:14] <CrazyLemon> .vreme koper
[13:14] <jabuk> ARSO: Koper Kapitanija (4m): 16.6°C @29.04.2015 13:00 UTC.
[13:14] <jabuk> Vlažnost: 66% zahodnik 7.3 m/s
[13:14] <jabuk> Sončni vzhod: 03:58:03, Kulminacija: 11:03:39, Sončni zahod: 18:09:16
[13:14] <jabuk> Dan je dolg: 14ur 11min 13s, Luna je v ščipu
[13:15] <upd> http://www.ljubljana.si/si/mol/dogodki/96046/detail.html
[13:15] <Seniorita> Kresovanje – Mestna občina – Ljubljana
[13:15] <Seniorita> »Župan Zoran Janković bo podpisal pismo o nameri za projekt Ljubljanska dolina inovativnosti.«
[13:15] <upd> samo to je pomembno hahah
[13:17] <napsy> hehe
[13:17] <idioterna> ja nepomembno zihr ni
[13:17] <napsy> and thus one again, kresovanje was saved
[13:17] <napsy> once*
[13:23] <dz0ny> so milky way is part of a smallish cluster http://i.imgur.com/CrivTNd.jpg
[13:24] <dz0ny> of galaxies the cluster is called laniakea
[13:24] * dz0ny mind blown
[13:25] <dz0ny> http://www.vox.com/2014/9/4/6105631/map-galaxy-supercluster-laniakea-milky-way
[13:25] <Seniorita> This is the most detailed map yet of our place in the universe - Vox
[13:25] <Seniorita> »Say hello to Laniakea, our local galaxy supercluster.«
[13:55] <CrazyLemon> servisi suxajo
[13:55] <CrazyLemon> namesto da mi dajo nov tv..oni starega popravijo
[13:57] <idioterna> kok nesramn
[13:58] <CrazyLemon> ane
[14:08] <dz0ny> haha
[14:08] <dz0ny> idioterna: par dni nazaj je govoro da bo novega dubu :>
[14:08] <idioterna> pa zakaj bi to hotu
[14:09] <idioterna> tko se sam smeti delajo
[14:27] <CrazyLemon> jah zato ker pol se še več smeti delajo
[14:28] <CrazyLemon> tko bi mi dali novega in bi ga mel v garanciji še dve leti
[14:28] <CrazyLemon> zdaj pa so ga "popravili" in čez pol leta bo crknu
[14:45] <CrazyLemon> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ksZIdf9bjuY
[14:45] <Seniorita> Prdoprašek Doktorja Proktorja - kmalu v kinu - YouTube
[14:46] <Seniorita> »KMALU V KINU 2015 mladinska komedija, 87 minut V knjigi ne spoznamo le Povsem navadnega Prdopraška Doktorja Proktorja, ampak tudi še bolj norega in neskončno...«
[15:34] <lynxlynxlynx> kako je to več smeti?
[15:36] <CrazyLemon> ker je lahko refurbished.. tko pa ko crkne ga bom vrgu v smeti :)
[15:38] <dz0ny> widnows got apt-get http://blogs.technet.com/b/packagemanagement/archive/2015/04/29/introducing-packagemanagement-in-windows-10.aspx
[15:38] <Seniorita> Introducing PackageManagement in Windows 10 - PackageManagement - Site Home - TechNet Blogs
[15:38] <lynxlynxlynx> isti gre lahko komu drugemu
[15:38] <dz0ny> ne un community :)
[15:39] <CrazyLemon> its all about powershell!
[15:39] <idioterna> powerwho?
[15:41] <CrazyLemon> shell! its a shell for powerful people
[16:15] <yang> 1700 deaths is about 3.2 days worth of normal deaths in nepal apparently -> there's 27m people and the death rate is 7 in 1000 per year. So 27000000 / 1000 * 7 / 365 = 517 and 1700 / 517 = 3.28
[16:30] <lynxlynxlynx> all that math and he still can't round
[16:33] <lynxlynxlynx> če je poskus relativizacije je bolj slab, ker tudi 9/11 pride malo čez 3.6
[17:36] <msev_> a je kšn matlab/freemat specialist tuki :D
[17:41] <polz> msev_: prešaltej na scipy ;)
[17:42] <msev_> sam en script iz matlaba bi rd zalaufov v freematu :), k ene kul vizualizacije nardi :)
[17:42] <polz> freemata niti ne poznam
[17:42] <msev_> a v tem scipy-ju tut lah poženem kšne skripte iz matlaba?
[17:43] <msev_> in ali lahko naloži .mat datoteke?
[17:45] <polz> sem vedno prišel skozi z octave
[17:45] <polz> in nikdar nisem imel problemov zaradi kakih morebiti uporabljenih zunanjih modulov
[17:47] <msev_> tuki mi noče odpret tega .mat fajla
[17:47] <msev_> pa naj bi imel kompatibilnost za te zadeve :) tko da nevem, mogoče je tekst fajl v kakšnem nestandardnem formatu
[20:37] <CrazyLemon> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=seOOdwuerC0
[20:37] <Seniorita> Svein Tuft and Jesper Hansen Car Crash - Tour de Romandie 2015 HD - Stage 2 - YouTube
[20:37] <Seniorita> »Horrible car crash: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=41re8NNWEyQ Site: http://www.CyclingHub.tv Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/Cyclinghub1 Twitter: http://...«
[20:37] <CrazyLemon> zdobbie ^
[20:42] <zdobbie> CrazyLemon: vsaj zdravnik ga je
[20:42] <CrazyLemon> zdobbie ki pa mu ni pomagal :D
[20:43] <yang> sem mislu da bo kaksen Rallye crash vsaj
[20:44] <CrazyLemon> ja.. ker bog ne daj da bi nekomu zdravje privošču :)
[20:44] <yang> Bicikliste gledat kako vozijo je ziv dolgcajt
[20:46] <yang> dobr mountain bike downhill je malo bolj zanimiv
[20:46] <yang> Alpa kaksne vragolije z BMX-i
[20:47] <CrazyLemon> kolesarji grejo in downhill in uphill.. niso tko leni kot mtbarji :)
[20:47] <yang> Ja samo pr cestnih pa res ne vem kaj je fora gledat kolono 2 ure, sej je skoz isto
[20:48] <CrazyLemon> več kot očitno je da nisi nikoli gledal :)
[20:48] <yang> sem
[20:48] <yang> tour de France
[20:48] <yang> sam ne dolgo
[20:48] <yang> ker sem skor zaspal
[20:50] <yang> Moj sosed stalno gleda moto sporte, k je cepljen na hlape
[20:50] <yang> Vcasih gledam to skupi z njim
[20:51] <yang> Ceprav mi tudi ni pretirano zanimivo
[20:52] <yang> On tud hod na WRC tekme
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[07:02] <Kilos> morning africa
[11:00] <Kilos> wb Neo31
[11:00] <Neo31> hi Kilos :)
[11:00] <Neo31> i got ur message by spotty_
[11:00] <Neo31> wasn't so clear
[11:00] <Neo31> what's up about that translation?
[11:00] <Kilos> i cant even remember that
[11:01] <Kilos> oh that was long ago
[11:01] <Kilos> nm its sorted ty
[11:01] <Neo31> 2 days ago
[11:01] <Neo31> good
[11:01] <Kilos> hows you project going
[11:02] <Neo31> it's live now
[11:02] <Neo31> still have a lot of issues to fix
[11:02] <Neo31> one to two weeks
[11:02] <Kilos> good
[11:02] <Neo31> depending on the client
[11:02] <Kilos> whew
[11:02] <Neo31> hopefully not more than than
[11:02] <Kilos> lets hope so
[11:03] <Neo31> I have to move on very soon
[11:03] <Kilos> to where?
[11:03] <Neo31> off of this project
[11:03] <Kilos> ah
[11:03] <Neo31> it has to end
[11:03] <Kilos> yes i agree
[11:03] <Kilos> the odd bit of support now and again is ok
[11:04] <Neo31> you know the client can always keep asking for more
[11:04] <Neo31> but i need to close this at least
[11:04] <Kilos> they alwasy want more
[11:04] <Neo31> and in the next months we can do maintenance and changes
[11:04] <Neo31> hhh
[11:04] <Neo31> anyway
[11:04] <Neo31> how r u doing ?
[11:05] <Neo31> what's up ?
[11:05] <Kilos> same old but we finding new countries for here now and again and the new site gets some visitors
[11:06] <Kilos> you seen the new site hey?
[11:09] <Kilos> Neo31 http://ubuntu-africa.info
[11:09] <Kilos> refresh a few times and watch scenery changed
[11:10] <Kilos> and the cc sees no infringements and canonical hasnt answered so all seems good
[11:19] <Neo31> sweet
[11:19] <Neo31> now it's a website :)
[11:19] <Neo31> we have the basic pages there already :)
[11:19] <Neo31> and a good front page :)
[11:19] <Neo31> thx Kilos
[11:19] <Neo31> :)
[11:20] <Kilos> yeah i think its all there but we have some improvement to add still
[11:20] <Kilos> only time holds things back
[11:20] <Kilos> you like it so far
[11:20] <Kilos> ?
[11:21] <Kilos> the irc link in join us come straight here too
[11:22] <Kilos> and the mailing list link works
[11:37] <Kilos> QA wish
[11:37] <QA> I wish all you geek types a very successful day
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2015-04-29-#ubuntu-pe
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[23:53] <calin> holass
[23:53] <Guest98322> ola
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2015-04-29-#ubuntustudio-devel
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[00:23] <OvenWerks> I think I upped my server to 14.04.... so I can leave it for a while untill systemd is well debugged in Ubuntu. Servers are more effected by system changes.
[00:25] <DalekSec> 16.04 is a bit off, so everything should be fixed or mostly so by then.
[00:30] <OvenWerks> ya, that is my feeling. It is new to debian as well I guess... but there are enough systemd disros around outside of debian/ubuntu the problems should be known and easier to fix.
[00:33] <OvenWerks> I have a script that uses upstart commands that would like to release as part of an app I want to release. I am waiting for an all systemd world first :) (sysv init will still be around though).
[00:48] <DalekSec> As well as compatibility layers, for a while.
[16:24] <zequence> Set wanted to become member of a few themes. I'm not accepting him yet, since we don't really know what he can do.
[16:24] <zequence> He's in the contributor team though, so we can all work on sources withing that team.
[16:48] <zequence> s/themes/teams
[18:51] <zequence> @ubuntustudio at twitter has one byte of followers (256). Worth a celebration, perhaps?
[20:18] <cub> One byte of followers, yes celebrate! New goal now perhaps?
[20:19] <cub> Might need more than 12 tweets though.
[20:21] <zequence> We should be able to squeeze in a few more, but let's not make our finger tired from typing all needed characters for a tweet
[20:24] <cub> it will probably be much easier when you get your ubuntu phone
[20:25] <zequence> Right!
[20:25] <zequence> I'll just swipe'em
[20:25] <zequence> (if it has swipe??)
[20:26] <cub> hehe
[20:27] <cub> Has anyone followed the change of Kdenlive?
[20:29] <zequence> cub: You might be the only one daring enough
[20:32] <cub> I was quite confused when it said version 15 was out.
[20:33] <cub> I need to read up on the changes. Seems the version we might be able to continue to use is still only 0.9.10. Not sure what the future will look like. I downloaded Lightworks a couple of days ago but haven't had time to try it out.
[20:33] <cub> not sure about Lightworks licensing though.
[20:34] <cub> I'm sort of thrown into kdenlive as I have to help my GF making a promotion video this weekend.
[20:35] <cub> Gott go though, early morning tomorrow!
[20:39] <zequence> See you cub!
[23:06] <OvenWerks> zequence: I saw some comments about the low latency kernel a few days ago. It sounds like not only are you not doig updates but that there will not be a separate package?
[23:07] <OvenWerks> zequence: Does that mean we will need to add some thing to grub to set the kernel command line?
[23:09] <OvenWerks> zequence: or am I way out to lunch?
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2015-04-29-#ubuntu-us-fl
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[23:59] <todoparaelbano> i can speak spanish????
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2015-04-29-#juju-dev
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[00:00] <menn0> perrito666: review done. just some small suggestions. wallyworld should probably take a look too since he's worked on status recently.
[00:04] <ericsnow> wallyworld: I've gotta run; could you shepherd those merges?
[00:04] <ericsnow> (already kicked off for 1.24 and master)
[00:08] <perrito666> tx menn0 and waigani
[00:08] <perrito666> wallyworld:
[00:08] <wallyworld> yo
[00:08] <perrito666> wallyworld: was a thank you, but your connection problems drive my irc client mad
[00:08] <wallyworld> me too :-(
[00:08] <wallyworld> it just appears to be irc
[00:09] <wallyworld> can still refresh browser etc ok when irc disconnects
[00:09] <perrito666> wallyworld: it is your client acting on too much lag
[00:09] <perrito666> your lost connection thresold is too small
[00:09] <wallyworld> i'l check client config
[00:10] <perrito666> wallyworld: in the mean time, could you clarify your first comment?
[00:11] <wallyworld> defer the legacy status calculation until after agent and workload status are set in the block below
[00:11] <wallyworld> then the special logic in the new method probably is not required
[00:11] <wallyworld> just call translate directly with the agent and workload status values
[00:12] <perrito666> duh, ok makes sense and then if the result is error I set workload status to error, did I get it right?
[00:12] <perrito666> that function should have been deleted I fisrt tried a more complex solution, because I like to complicate my life
[00:51] <waigani> wallyworld: thanks for review. I'm new to control-bucket. I was just taking the error on face value - It looked like a string that needed to be zero valued to "" instead of nil. Any tips on where to look to grok control-bucket and what it's default value should be?
[00:51] <perrito666> waigani: 1.18?
[00:52] <waigani> perrito666: okay
[02:08] <wallyworld> axw: revision 6 of http://reviews.vapour.ws/r/1481/ has the machine manager facade
[02:14] <wallyworld> axw: there's currently work being done to tweak the control bucket logic for ec2, but with tools and charms in storage, we don't need control buckets for new environments anymore. i'm wondering if we shouldn't just delete control bucket creation
[02:14] <axw> wallyworld: yes we do, we still need it for the state server list
[02:15] <wallyworld> ah, yeah, forgot about that
[02:29] <natefinch> sinzui: you around?
[03:01] <mup> Bug #1449822 was opened: storage: storage-detached should be storage-detaching <storage> <juju-core:Triaged> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1449822>
[03:13] <mup> Bug #1449822 changed: storage: storage-detached should be storage-detaching <storage> <juju-core:Triaged> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1449822>
[03:19] <mup> Bug #1449822 was opened: storage: storage-detached should be storage-detaching <storage> <juju-core:Triaged> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1449822>
[03:20] <axw> wallyworld: have you tested your latest change to ff removal against an older juju API server?
[03:20] <wallyworld> axw: yes
[03:21] <axw> wallyworld: cool. I thought getting the API would error, rather than returning something with a 0 "best API version"
[03:21] <axw> glad to be wrong
[04:31] <menn0> wallyworld: looking at the blockdevices upgrade PR now
[04:31] <wallyworld> ty
[04:47] <menn0> wallyworld: ship it with some fixes
[06:31] <mgz> mornin'
[07:32] <TheMue> morning o/
[08:58] <voidspace> dooferlad: ping
[08:59] <dooferlad> voidspace: hi
[08:59] <voidspace> dooferlad: hi, you better today?
[08:59] <TheMue> ah, he's back. feeling better?
[08:59] <voidspace> dooferlad: I assume the answer is yes as you're here :-)
[08:59] <dooferlad> voidspace: mostly :-|
[09:00] <dooferlad> voidspace, TheMue: hangout time!
[09:00] <TheMue> omw
[09:01] <voidspace> omw
[09:11] <Bardhi|2> hello i am trying to deploy some services with juju but it gets stucked on allocating units and services are not deployed. i just started using juju and i am not an expert in using it and i dont know very well how it all works but i need this service up and running as soon as possible. if someone could help me i would appreciate it. thank you
[09:25] <axw> wallyworld: should cinder be going into 1.24?
[09:26] <axw> (since it's not in tree atm)
wallyworld: should cinder be going into 1.24?
(since it's not in tree atm)
[09:28] <wallyworld> axw: yes, we do need it
[09:28] <axw> wallyworld: ok, will look at getting that ready for merge next
[09:28] <wallyworld> axw: excellent, ty
[09:32] <perrito666> wallyworld: got it, fixing that last bit now
[09:32] <wallyworld> perrito666: ty
[09:33] <perrito666> a night's sleep does wonders
[09:33] <wallyworld> indeed
[09:33] <perrito666> s/a night/6 hs/
[12:24] <jam> rogpeppe: so ultimately, I feel like if we are "crossing the streams" then we have our layering and abstractions a bit wrong. Like I don't see why API Parameters would be defined in terms of model objects (params depending on charms)
[12:24] <jam> however, I do feel like your proposal is better than what we have
[12:26] <rogpeppe> jam: i think that consideration is largely orthogonal to the decisions we're making here
[12:26] <jam> rogpeppe: it would let you decouple "params" from "charms" which would let you remove some of the crossing lines
[12:27] <rogpeppe> jam: even if params didn't depend on the charm package, we'd still need to solve the cyclic issue (params has never been the problem here)
[12:33] <perrito666> mgz: morning, ping?
[12:35] * perrito666 would give his kingdom for more upload speed
[12:35] <perrito666> s/speed/bw
[12:36] <rogpeppe> quick question: is relation-broken the only relation hook for which $JUJU_REMOTE_UNIT is not guaranteed to be set?
[12:36] <rogpeppe> fwereade: ^
[12:39] <mgz> perrito666: yo
[12:44] <perrito666> mgz: do you know if this happens going from any contiguous a to b from 1.22 on? https://bugs.launchpad.net/juju-core/+bug/1447853
[12:44] <mup> Bug #1447853: Local charms are not added to storage on upgrade to 1.22.x <charms> <regression> <storage> <upgrade-juju> <juju-core:Triaged> <juju-core 1.24:Triaged by hduran-8> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1447853>
[12:45] <mgz> perrito666: it won't happen if you bootstrapped on 1.22 because your charms will go in mongo straight off
[12:46] <mgz> perrito666: it will be an issue if you started on 1.21 or earlier regardless of how you're trying to upgrade
[12:46] <perrito666> ah ok, then retrying with 1.21
[13:11] <mup> Bug #1441811 changed: juju-1.23beta3 breaks glance <-> mysql relation when glance is hosted in a container <charms> <network> <oil> <regression> <juju-core:Invalid by dooferlad> <juju-core 1.23:Fix Released by dooferlad> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1441811>
[13:11] <jam> wallyworld: or axw: I'm looking at https://bugs.launchpad.net/juju-core/+bug/1410876 and it seems to be trying to download a root.tar.gz from a Juju API server.
[13:11] <mup> Bug #1410876: Error executing lxc-clone: lxc_container: utils.c: mkdir_p 220 Not a directory - Could not destroy snapshot %s - failed to allocate a pty; Insufficent privileges to control juju-trusty-lxc-template <lxc> <oil> <stakeholder-critical> <trusty> <juju-core:Triaged> <juju-core
[13:11] <mup> 1.24:Triaged> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1410876>
[13:12] <wallyworld> jam: that looks like a missing cloud images package
[13:12] <wallyworld> let me check the name
[13:12] <jam> wallyworld: 500 Internal Server Error is not a good thing to be getting.
[13:12] <jam> though they also couldn't include the all-machines.log because they were trying to "cat" as an unpriviledged user.
[13:12] <wallyworld> jam: cloud-image-utils needs to be installed or else the util to determine the lxc file name is missing
[13:13] <wallyworld> jam: if they have os-updates false, then juju has a bug it wont install needed packages
[13:13] <wallyworld> that bug is being fixed for 1.24
[13:13] <jam> wallyworld: what file are you looking at? I'm looking at "juju_status.yaml" and trying to parse through the agent-state-info error message.
[13:13] <wallyworld> jam: i just happen to know/guess the issue
[13:14] <jam> wallyworld: so regardless, do we give a better error than 500 ISE if you try to download a cloud image we don't have?
[13:14] <wallyworld> if it tries to download just root.tar.gz and not a full lxc image file name, the util is missing
[13:14] <jam> wallyworld: its a full name
[13:14] <jam> wallyworld: https://10.245.0.177:17070/environment/97640150-37d0-4356-80b1-095a39c78437/images/lxc/trusty/amd64/ubuntu-14.04-server-cloudimg-amd64-root.tar.gz;
[13:14] <wallyworld> oh i see
[13:14] <jam> that's just a lot to write :)
[13:14] <wallyworld> in that case, ignore what i said above
[13:15] <jam> wallyworld: but that looks like it is expecting the Juju API server to have the cloud images, right?
[13:15] <jam> Is that the changes you made with GridFS storage?
[13:15] <wallyworld> jam: the state server is a proxy - if it doesn't have the iages it fetches from cloudimages.ubuntu.com and caches
[13:15] <jam> console.txt claims it is running juju-1.22-beta2-trusty-amd64.tgz
[13:16] <jam> wallyworld: k, well its giving 500 ISE instead :)
[13:16] <wallyworld> the images are cached in gridfs yes
[13:16] <wallyworld> the logs would be useful
[13:16] <jam> wallyworld: and we don't have all-machines.log or machine-0.log to know if we're logging a real error internally. (like not being able to access cloud-images, or somesuch.)
[13:17] <jam> wallyworld: they tried, but those files are: cat: /var/log/juju/all-machines.log: Permission denied
[13:17] <wallyworld> sudo ?
[13:17] <wallyworld> for local provider you need sudo for most things
[13:17] <jam> wallyworld: + juju ssh -e maas 0 'cat /var/log/juju/all-machines.log'
[13:17] <wallyworld> oh maas
[13:17] <jam> Is the "-e maas" to blame ?
[13:18] <wallyworld> don't think so, but is maas is current env, could try leaving it off
[13:18] <wallyworld> juju ssh i think supports -e
[13:21] <wallyworld> jam: the lxc-clone error - that nromally happens after the image has been downloaded (via the state server). is there a tarball in /var/cache/lxc/trusty... ?
[13:21] <wallyworld> on the maas node
[13:25] <jam> wallyworld: so wget for 1/lxc/0 is failing
[13:25] <jam> afaict there are no containers on machine-0
[13:25] <jam> so we don't see errors particularly there
[13:25] <wallyworld> wget to state server or from state server out to cloudimages?
[13:26] <jam> wallyworld: wget 10.245.0.177:17070 I assume that is to state server
[13:26] <wallyworld> yes
[13:26] <wallyworld> wget is written as a bash file to tmp in order to specofy cert to use
[13:27] <jam> wallyworld: yeah, there is stuff about tmp files, but the requset
[13:27] <jam> the request *to* the state server causes the state server to return 500 ISE
[13:28] <jam> and "juju ssh machine-0" is unable to read /var/log/juju/all-machines.log for debugging info
[13:29] <wallyworld> so it seems the secure wget is succeeding, but then the state server fails to reach out to cloudimages to fetch the tarball from there to 1. cache it, and 2. stream it back to wegt
[13:29] <wallyworld> we really need the log files, preferrable with debug on
[13:30] <wallyworld> what does juju ssh ls /var/log/juju give?
[13:30] <wallyworld> is all-machines.log missing
[13:33] <jam> wallyworld: the message they got was "Permission Denied" not "no such file"
[13:34] <wallyworld> jam: that could be another issue then - if rsyslog pkg is missing, all-machines log won't be written
[13:34] <wallyworld> rsyslog-gnutls
[13:35] <wallyworld> that package is normally installed by cloud init, but not if os-updates-blah is false
[13:35] <wallyworld> that's the bug i mentioned earlier
[13:38] <natefinch> does $$JFDI$$ not work anymore? Or did I just mess it up?
[13:38] <perrito666> natefinch: aha, trying to jfdi
[13:41] <mup> Bug #1440940 changed: xml/marshal.go:10:2: cannot find package "encoding" <blocker> <ci> <regression> <test-failure> <juju-core:Fix Released by ericsnowcurrently> <juju-core 1.24:Fix Released by ericsnowcurrently> <juju-release-tools:In Progress by gz> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1440940>
[13:42] <natefinch> ericsnow_afk: you around?
[13:45] <natefinch> perrito666: looks like it's $$__JDFI__$$ (but then the markup changes that to a bold JFDI)
[13:48] <voidspace> ericsnow_afk: ping
[13:48] <voidspace> natefinch: you know anything about systemd?
[13:48] <voidspace> natefinch: anything would be more than me... :-)
[13:49] <natefinch> voidspace: LOL I probably know less than that
[13:49] <voidspace> natefinch: :-)
[13:50] <voidspace> natefinch: looks like I'm stuck with hassling ericsnow ...
[13:50] <ericsnow> :)
[13:50] <natefinch> voidspace: well, I know some of our handling of it. I just don't know systemd *itself*
[13:50] <natefinch> voidspace: if that makes any sense :)
[13:50] <voidspace> natefinch: right
[13:50] <voidspace> natefinch: the question is about our handling of it, just formulating the question
[13:51] <ericsnow> voidspace: what's up?
[13:51] <voidspace> ericsnow: I'm forward porting a networking fix from 1.23 to master (and 1.24)
[13:51] <voidspace> ericsnow: I now have a test that fails with this error
[13:51] <voidspace> http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/10940325/
[13:51] <voidspace> ericsnow: which looks like a systemd change
[13:52] <mgz> I have a fix for bug 1446264 in need of kindly review
[13:52] <mup> Bug #1446264: joyent machines get stuck in provisioning <bootstrap> <joyent-provider> <reliability> <repeatability> <juju-core:Triaged> <juju-core 1.24:Triaged> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1446264>
[13:52] <voidspace> ericsnow: are the two "effectively equivalent", i.e. can I just change the expected value
[13:52] <natefinch> voidspace: lol, I read that as "port forwarding a networking fix"
[13:52] <mgz> sinzui: ^ you may like this
[13:52] <voidspace> heh
[13:52] <voidspace> ericsnow: the test specifically is TestShutdownInitCommandsSystemd
[13:53] <sinzui> mgz, \o/
[13:53] <voidspace> hmmmm....
[13:53] <voidspace> digging into the test it looks a bit weirder
[13:54] <ericsnow> voidspace: presumably that test is checking the generated script
[13:54] <voidspace> right
[13:54] <voidspace> I need to get it to show the whole script
[13:54] <mgz> ocr: <http://reviews.vapour.ws/r/1519/>
[13:55] <ericsnow> voidspace: got it
[13:56] <mgz> wallyworld: did you get my email btw?
[13:57] <voidspace> ericsnow: this is the full result
[13:57] <voidspace> http://paste.ubuntu.com/10940405/
[13:57] <voidspace> it looks reasonable
[13:57] <voidspace> the test is explicitly checking for a chmod though
[13:58] <ericsnow> voidspace: which test?
[13:59] <voidspace> container_userdata_test.go
[13:59] <voidspace> cloudconfig/containerinit/container_userdata_test.go TestShutdownInitCommandsSystemd
[14:00] <natefinch> mgz: ship it!
[14:02] <mgz> natefinch: merci
[14:04] <ericsnow> voidspace: OTP, now
[14:04] <voidspace> ericsnow: np, I'm reading through it
[14:04] <voidspace> ericsnow: it might be a genuine failure
[14:07] <voidspace> yeah, it looks like there's definitely a chmod missing that the test expects, trying to work out why :-)
[14:14] <voidspace> ericsnow: this is service/systemd/testing/writeconf.go that is expecting a "chmod 0755 " + wct.scriptname()
[14:42] <TheMue> strange, router just went into service mode and back
[14:50] <voidspace> ericsnow: for the systemd writeconf tests, you don't know where the "chmod 0755" is supposed to be added do you?
[14:54] <ericsnow> voidspace: check out service/systemd/conf.go
[14:55] <ericsnow> voidspace: (in normalize)
[14:56] <voidspace> ericsnow: ah, I was grepping for chmod... that helps, thanks
[14:56] <ericsnow> voidspace: np
[15:00] <voidspace> ericsnow: hmm... normalize does a 600 though, not an 0755
[15:00] <voidspace> that's on the logfile
[15:00] <ericsnow> voidspace: ah
[15:01] <ericsnow> voidspace: see service/systemd/service.go
[15:01] <ericsnow> voidspace: (in InstallCommands)
[15:01] <voidspace> ericsnow: indeed
[15:01] <voidspace> ericsnow: thank you
[15:01] <ericsnow> voidspace: that bit is triggered when you end up with a complex command
[15:01] <voidspace> now to work out why that isn't being called in this code path
[15:01] <voidspace> it is now *not* being called
[15:02] <voidspace> and it's hard to see why this branch should change that
[15:02] <ericsnow> voidspace: I'm guessing that the command was simplified
[15:02] <TheMue> voidspace: a short review of http://reviews.vapour.ws/r/1521/? it's a forward port of a fix done by Dimiter
[15:02] <voidspace> the execStart of the shutdown commands is different
[15:02] <ericsnow> voidspace: exactly
[15:02] <voidspace> TheMue: looking
[15:02] <voidspace> TheMue: did you have to make any changes?
[15:03] <ericsnow> voidspace: if the command is complex, it gets written out to a script and the path to the script is set to ExecStart
[15:03] <voidspace> ericsnow: right
[15:03] <voidspace> ericsnow: but the test should handle that
[15:03] <voidspace> ericsnow: it has the same if as the InstallCommand branch
[15:04] <voidspace> ericsnow: for some reason they're differing
[15:04] <voidspace> TheMue: the way reviewboard renders the diff of that PR is awful :-)
[15:05] <TheMue> voidspace: one moment, hangout
[15:09] <ericsnow> voidspace: what does the equivalent pre-patch output look like? (equivalent to http://paste.ubuntu.com/10940405/)
[15:10] <voidspace> ericsnow: I'll check shortly, doing a review for TheMue currently
[15:10] <voidspace> ericsnow: but good thing to check
[15:10] <voidspace> ericsnow: and then work out what's changed
[15:10] <ericsnow> voidspace: k
[15:10] <ericsnow> voidspace: yep
[15:10] <voidspace> ericsnow: you've given me enough clues to actually understand the code now, which is what I lacked earlier
[15:10] <voidspace> ericsnow: I may still hassle you yet though... :-)
[15:11] <ericsnow> voidspace: np :)
[15:21] <TheMue> voidspace: so, back again. no, no changes, only a one to one port of Dimiters changes. but two files have moved
[15:24] <TheMue> voidspace: oh, just read dimiters comment, have to check the commit again. hmm
[15:26] <mup> Bug #1450092 was opened: juju 1.23 fails to bootstrap with upstart <juju-core:New> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1450092>
[15:30] <TheMue> voidspace: this is the right one http://reviews.vapour.ws/r/1522/
[15:30] <TheMue> voidspace: chosen master instead of 1.24 accidently
[15:31] <TheMue> voidspace: now it's for the correct branch
[15:39] <voidspace> TheMue: ok, I've been reading it on github anyway
[15:40] <TheMue> voidspace: thx ;)
[15:40] <TheMue> voidspace: https://github.com/juju/juju/pull/2161
[16:14] <sinzui> natefinch, Is this like the gccfo import encoding issue? https://github.com/golang/go/issues/10173
[16:15] <sinzui> ^ that uses the newer compiler that Ubuntu offered to backport
[16:15] <natefinch> sinzui: looking
[16:15] <mgz> sinzui: looks like something else
[16:16] <mgz> natefinch: the issue with your test is it's totally bogus
[16:16] <mgz> you have an amd64 machine with both gccgo and golang-go installed on it
[16:16] <mgz> which we know works
[16:16] <mgz> it's a ppc machine with only gccgo on it that fails
[16:16] <katco> mgz: i think we were wondering if you could run that sample program on the ci machine
[16:16] <mgz> katco: I did, it fails
[16:16] <katco> mgz: to simplify the conversation
[16:17] <natefinch> mgz: that's sort of my point.... the *code* is valid. There's a problem with the environment in which the code is run on that machine.
[16:17] <mgz> yeah, which is called 'gccgo on ppc64el'
[16:18] <katco> mgz: so can we take the next step and determine whether this is a CI env. issue, or a gccgo issue?
[16:18] <katco> mgz: e.g. is there a way to run that sample program on a ppc machine with gccgo installed as normal?
[16:18] <mgz> I don't have a fresh ppc machine to try, but I can try to find one
[16:18] <natefinch> mgz: I find it hard to believe that gccgo on powerpc, when properly set up, simply lacks the encoding package
[16:19] <sinzui> mgz, natefinch I am reading all the control files for gccgo-based packages. I don't see anything different from our package
[16:19] <voidspace> TheMue: LGTM
[16:19] <TheMue> voidspace: thx
[16:19] <alexisb> wwitzel3, ping
[16:19] <mgz> i'm out
[16:19] * katco looks dangerously at her old iBook aging in the corner
[16:25] <TheMue> katco: new tasks for old (i)books?
[16:25] <natefinch> encoding/json imports the encoding package.... and we import json in juju, so there's definitely some code that is referencing "encoding" indirectly already... but there is notably no other code importing "encoding" directly.
[16:25] <katco> TheMue: yeah... it makes me not feel so bad about having so many old computers around :p
[16:25] <TheMue> katco: hehe
[16:26] <TheMue> katco: but the ibook already has been intel, hasn't it? the powerbooks have been G4
[16:27] <katco> TheMue: i think it's a G3, but it was definitely an iBook circa 2004
[16:27] <natefinch> katco: compiling juju on that is going to be a blast, I'm sure.
[16:27] <TheMue> katco: oh, long time ago
[16:27] <katco> natefinch: hey, go compiles fast, right? :)
[16:28] <katco> natefinch: it's not going to happen anytime soon. i'm not even sure if it boots anymore. weekend project for sometime
[16:31] <perrito666> sinzui: do you know why my http://reports.vapour.ws/releases/2576 is empty?
[16:39] <sinzui> perrito666, the site can be 30 minutes behind the data that was stored for it to pick up
[16:40] <wwitzel3> alexisb: pong
[16:40] <alexisb> wwitzel3, I got what I needed thank you
[16:41] <perrito666> sinzui: oh, tx
[16:41] <perrito666> I am mainly curious why now the windows build is broken since I have not been even closer to what blew
[16:41] <sinzui> perrito666, I suspect bad luck and charms in the aws bundle failure. I will try to retest
[16:42] <perrito666> tx
[16:43] <sinzui> perrito666, it was a panic. Since we know this test should pass in 1.24, I will increase the reties. It was set to 1 when we knew it wouldn't pass
[16:44] <sinzui> perrito666, a successful run is 90 minutes for windows
[16:44] <mup> Bug #1450118 was opened: vsphere provider should use OVA instead of OVF from cloud images. <juju-core:Triaged> <juju-core 1.24:Triaged> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1450118>
[16:45] <sinzui> perrito666, I don't think there is anything for you to look at. I will whip CI to give a success, or concrete failure results
[16:46] <perrito666> sinzui: tx a lot
[16:48] <katco> sinzui: will you announce when trunk is open?
[16:49] <sinzui> katco, I will, but I think CI will may do it before me. We installed the automatic unblocking rules this morning
[16:49] <katco> sinzui: oh wow, it pings irc now?
[16:50] <sinzui> katco, no, just uses Lp to send out notification about why a bug is fix released
[16:51] <natefinch> sinzui: are all the bugs assigned to 1.24-alpha1 required to be fixed for 1.24? Some of them don't seem like they're in a state to be fixed
[16:51] <katco> sinzui: ah gotcha
[16:52] <sinzui> natefinch, I cannot say. when we decided to fork 1.24 from master, all the bugs that said they had to be fixed for the milestone got a new task
[16:52] <sinzui> natefinch, if an issue is not doable to 1.24, then let katco and alexis know to reduce scope
[16:54] <katco> natefinch: yeah definitely ping me if you see things that are incomplete so we can further groom that list
[16:59] <natefinch> katco: I doubt this one will ever be understood, certainly it's not fixable on any kind of a short timeline: https://bugs.launchpad.net/juju-core/1.24/+bug/1392810
[16:59] <mup> Bug #1392810: upgrade-juju --upload-tools, using 1.20.11, from 1.18.4 upgraded to 1.19.4 instead <canonical-bootstack> <canonical-is> <upgrade-juju> <juju-core:Triaged> <juju-core 1.24:Triaged> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1392810>
[17:00] <katco> natefinch: kind of agree... not sure why an --upload-tools bug would block a release since it's a purely dev feature
[17:01] <natefinch> sinzui: when's feature freeze and/or code freeze for 1.24?
[17:02] <katco> natefinch: last friday
[17:02] <katco> natefinch: ff at least
[17:02] <natefinch> katco: ok
[17:03] <sinzui> natefinch, regardless of the freeze, we expect some large branches to "fix" incomplete features.
[17:04] <natefinch> sinzui: understood. I just thought I saw a feature request targeted to 1.24, which obviously won't make it in
[17:06] <katco> natefinch: actually that's a great point. we have several things with the feature tag targeted to 1.24-*
[17:07] <katco> sinzui: should we re-target those do you think?
[17:07] <sinzui> katco, I do. Lets set honest expectation about what we can do
[17:13] <natefinch> sinzui: I keep seeing bugs like this one that say at the bottom "Changed in juju-core: milestone: 1.24-alpha1 → 1.25.0" but they're still assigned to 1.24-alpha1 as well... are they supposed to be in both?
[17:14] <natefinch> sorry this is the bug I mean: https://bugs.launchpad.net/juju-core/1.24/+bug/1412621
[17:14] <mup> Bug #1412621: replica set EMPTYCONFIG MAAS bootstrap <bootstrap> <maas-provider> <mongodb> <juju-core:Triaged> <juju-core 1.24:Triaged> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1412621>
[17:14] <mup> Bug #1450129 was opened: vsphere provider is missing firewaller, networking implementations <juju-core:Triaged> <juju-core 1.24:Triaged> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1450129>
[17:15] <sinzui> natefinch, that is because of Core policy. Every bug must be assigned to a series (and milestone) to track fixes and forward ports
[17:16] <natefinch> sinzui: ok, so... where/when should that bug be fixed? It's confusing when it's assigned to two different milestones.
[17:16] <sinzui> natefinch, By forking long before the branch was stable Juju Core agreed to do double merges fore every issue.
[17:16] <sinzui> natefinch, Core policy is fix it in the oldest stable, then forward port to master. Master is currrently 1.25
[17:17] <natefinch> sinzui: ok, so 1.25 and 1.24 just means 1.24 (and of course make sure it's fixed in trunk as well)
[17:18] <sinzui> natefinch, yes exactly that
[17:18] <natefinch> sinzui: still doesn't seem like it needs to actually say "1.25" on the bug anywhere. The "also put in master" should be implied.
[17:19] <sinzui> natefinch, yep, but since 1.22 and 1.23 were troubled by missing merges, the policy was set by wallyworld and alexisb.
[17:20] * sinzui thinks forking later and asking features to stay in feature branches is easier for everyone
[17:21] <katco> time for lunch
[17:22] <natefinch> I don't, because then it's pig-pile on master once the fork is cut, and whoever gets in last gets a merging nightmare of epic proprotions. By cutting the branch early, work can be ongoing on master and everyone can happily merge incrementally rather than in one hellish lump. Most things that go in after the branch is cut should be relatively small, in theory.
[17:30] <natefinch> sinzui: this bug appears to be mainly a DNS problem in their MAAS setup, not really a juju problem, other than we might be able to improve some error messages: https://bugs.launchpad.net/juju-core/1.24/+bug/1412621
[17:30] <mup> Bug #1412621: replica set EMPTYCONFIG MAAS bootstrap <bootstrap> <maas-provider> <mongodb> <juju-core:Triaged> <juju-core 1.24:Triaged> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1412621>
[17:31] <sinzui> natefinch, +1. Fix the message and let someone fix their setup!
[17:31] <sinzui> natefinch, I really like saying the bug is not in juju
[17:37] <natefinch> sinzui: this one really sounds like it's a maas/networking issue, not really juju: https://bugs.launchpad.net/juju-core/1.24/+bug/1355782
[17:37] <mup> Bug #1355782: Error during bootstrap: TLS handshake failed: x509: certificate signed by unknown authority <bootstrap> <cloud-installer> <landscape> <oil> <juju-core:Triaged> <juju-core 1.24:Triaged> <MAAS:New> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1355782>
[17:40] <sinzui> natefinch, I and others agree, but I think we need to prove that. Maybe mark it Incomplete and ask for the information needed to confirm the origin.
[18:24] <mup> Bug #1450146 was opened: vsphere provider feature flag should apply only to bootstrap <juju-core:In Progress by ericsnowcurrently> <juju-core 1.24:In Progress by ericsnowcurrently> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1450146>
[19:02] <sinzui> perrito666, We can now see http://reports.vapour.ws/releases/2576
[19:04] <sinzui> perrito666, There are two failures that suspiciously align with addressable containers on maas and aws. We are retesting. maybe the maas 1.7 is ill
[19:04] <perrito666> sinzui: tx, why are there keyboard interrupts in the logs?
[19:04] <sinzui> perrito666, We know that 1.23 passed these tests before and after the feature flag. Ans we know the aws fix that went into 1.23 has nto yet merged into 1.24 and master
[19:05] <sinzui> perrito666, timeouts. we try to make tests pass quickly instead of let you wait 5 bours for results
[19:05] <perrito666> sinzui: k, Ill be checking for new builds, the errors do seem alien to the previous problem
[19:06] <sinzui> perrito666, in aws the bundle completes between 13 and 17 minutes, with a 30 minutes timeout. I am testing a 45 minute timeout now
[19:06] <perrito666> iirc, 372 secons here
[19:06] <perrito666> the bundle you provided against aws
[19:27] <sinzui> perrito666, since errors are in the aws containers. I am inclined to escalate the bug that has a fix and mark you bug as fix released. master and 1.24 and blocked, but maybe a merge is only a hour away
[19:27] <perrito666> sinzui: I would wait until your EOD arrives
[19:29] <perrito666> but in principle, the problem seems to be adifferent bug, which might have been there all the time but masked by this other issue,
[19:42] <perrito666> dont you love when everybody you need to ask a question to is in the other side of the globe?
[19:43] <natefinch> perrito666: yep, sucks.
[19:52] <sinzui> katco, wallyworld: I believe that perrito666's Megawatcher fix is good, but aws and maas are still broken. 1.24 and master are still blocked. I escalated bug 1442801 which appears to be the aws issue and has an unmerged fix available
[19:52] <mup> Bug #1442801: aws containers are broken in 1.23 <blocker> <ci> <deployer> <ec2-provider> <lxc> <regression> <juju-core:In Progress by dooferlad> <juju-core 1.23:Fix Released by dooferlad> <juju-core 1.24:Triaged by dooferlad> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1442801>
[19:53] <katco> sinzui: ty
[19:53] <sinzui> katco, wallyworld : We are still looking into the maas, failure, hoping it is a substrate issue, not juju
[19:59] <katco> sinzui: fix for 1442801 just hasn't been forward ported to v1.24?
[19:59] <katco> am i reading that right?
[19:59] <sinzui> katco, that is my reading too
[20:00] <natefinch> sinzui: is this even really a bug anymore? https://bugs.launchpad.net/juju-core/1.24/+bug/1442719 it sounds like it was just a problem of using an old version of juju that didn't support windows, so we had to do some rigamarole to do the upgrade.
[20:00] <mup> Bug #1442719: juju sync-tools fails <sync-tools> <windows> <juju-core:Triaged> <juju-core 1.24:Triaged> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1442719>
[20:22] <katco> oh my goodness... seen in a SetUpSuite(...): cmd := exec.Command("go", "build", "github.com/juju/juju/cmd/jujud")
[20:23] <perrito666> yup, the comment above is fantastic
[20:23] <katco> yeah lol
[20:25] <natefinch> heh.... I should have figured it was the uniter tests
[20:25] <katco> that is a new one for me
[20:26] <katco> performing a compile... in a test...
[20:26] <katco> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6nSKkwzwdW4
[20:30] <mup> Bug #1450191 was opened: quickstart cannot talk juju on maas 1.7 <api> <blocker> <ci> <quickstart> <regression> <juju-core:Triaged> <juju-core 1.24:Triaged> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1450191>
[20:30] <perrito666> yay new bug
[20:32] <natefinch> katco, sinzui: this bug appears to be "juju upgrade-juju fails when the disk is full" ... which does not seem to be something we should really care about fixing: https://bugs.launchpad.net/juju-core/1.24/+bug/1441913
[20:32] <mup> Bug #1441913: juju upgrade-juju failed to configure mongodb replicasets <canonical-is> <mongodb> <upgrade-juju> <juju-core:Triaged> <juju-core 1.24:Triaged> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1441913>
[20:33] <sinzui> natefinch, *reliability* Juju needs to make a sensible decision when it doesn't have resources to justify starting an upgrade
[20:35] <katco> i can get behind that
[20:36] <sinzui> Mongo burned its bridges with me when it filled the disk with db and logs for two different deployments.
[20:36] <natefinch> I gotta run, kids are crazy, wife is sick. I think that's valid, but that's true of every action we'd try to do
[20:37] <alexisb> natefinch, quality software is ... ?
[20:37] <alexisb> natefinch, but go take care of your family first
[20:37] <natefinch> alexisb: yes... I am just looking for return on investment
[20:38] <katco> alexisb: we can talk about this on the release call, but nate brought up a great point in that we're past the FF for v1.24, and we should move all new features out past 1.24
[20:38] * perrito666 calls his isp to negotiate more upload and runs scared
[20:38] <katco> alexisb: not sure if this is a feature or not :)
[20:38] <alexisb> yes there can be a fine line between features and bugs, that is fine
[20:39] <alexisb> but we need to be careful to not ignore robustness issues
[20:39] <alexisb> it is important
[20:39] <katco> absolutely it is important
[20:39] <alexisb> juju is awesome because it is so powerful
[20:39] <alexisb> but ...
[20:39] <perrito666> robustnes is a feature in terms of adding new failure vectors
[20:40] <alexisb> anyhow we can chat about it on the release call
[20:41] <katco> perrito666: that is a great way of putting that
[20:42] <wwitzel3> bugs are just incomplete features ;)
[20:42] <perrito666> wwitzel3: lol
[20:43] <perrito666> wwitzel3: software is like an infinite surface of minesweeper :p
[20:44] <wwitzel3> perrito666: any every time you you don't hit a mine, it is just the number 8
[20:44] <perrito666> hehe
[20:45] * katco now knows what wwitzel3 really does during the day
[20:46] <wwitzel3> vimsweeper
[20:46] <wwitzel3> I wonder if that is a thing?
[20:46] <katco> you can bet in emacs it is
[20:46] <katco> i know emacs has tetris...
[20:47] <katco> our kanban is so useful. it's quite plain to see something is wrong by how all of our bug fixes are blocked.
[20:48] <katco> 1 liner up for grabs: http://reviews.vapour.ws/r/1523/
[20:50] <perrito666> wwitzel3: all it takes for something to come to existence in vim is for someone to wonder if its a thing.
[20:51] <katco> ugh. i really need to take a weekend and set up a bunch of environments that i can use for triaging bugs
[20:52] <perrito666> mmpfh,is alt f2 not present in unity for vivid?
[20:59] <katco> how do i disconnect from an lxc console? C-a q isn't working
[21:00] <sinzui> katco, control-d?
[21:00] <katco> sinzui: nah that just dumps me back to the login prompt
[21:02] <sinzui> katco, stop the container from another session, then start the container with -n so you can ssh into it
[21:02] <katco> sinzui: yeah, just wondering how to exit its jail since i always forget to daemonize it
[21:03] <sinzui> katco, C-a q is correct. I doubt those keys are remapped for you.
[21:04] <katco> sinzui: not working... wondering if its because it's for a machine i'm sshed into
[21:10] <perrito666> katco: ca aq
[21:11] <perrito666> katco: you seem to be suffering of double shell with the same escape clause
[21:11] <katco> perrito666: tried that as well =/
[21:11] <perrito666> used to bite me in screen all the time
[21:11] <perrito666> tried C-a ?
[21:12] <katco> yeah C-a a q
[21:12] <katco> C-a q
[21:13] <perrito666> why in the universe is there no preview in launchpad comments
[21:14] <perrito666> is there any kind of formatting on the comments?
[21:15] <katco> perrito666: there is, but i haven't taken the time to figure out what it is
[21:15] <perrito666> it has quite a user foe approach
[21:15] <perrito666> sinzui: ?
[21:16] <sinzui> perrito666, no formatting supported. It was designed 10 years ago
[21:16] <perrito666> sinzui: damn, if only software was updateable...
[21:16] <sinzui> perrito666, I use lots of new lines and many comments honour leading spaces
[21:17] <sinzui> perrito666, If It was I would jump ship to tear down the bug, blueprint, and question trackers
[21:17] <katco> wow i'm impressed... my old ibook booted right up. G4 1.07GHz with 768Mb ram
[21:17] <katco> apparently i took really good care of this
[21:18] <perrito666> katco: apple did
[21:18] <perrito666> :p
[21:18] <katco> lol
[21:18] <katco> i do love apple hardware
[21:18] <perrito666> ibook g4s where white thinkpads
[21:18] <perrito666> the ibook g4 was my all time favorite machine, I almost cried when I replaced it
[21:19] <katco> yeah it was my college machine after some crappy compaq gave up the ghost
[21:19] <katco> i scrimped and saved for it... good investment.
[21:19] <katco> haha... how i know it's old: in my browser history: google reader
[21:19] <sinzui> katco, My daugher might want to buy your old computer. Her favourite marble game doesn't play on the intel Macs
[21:20] <katco> sinzui: i am toying with the idea of turning this into a build slave
[21:20] <sinzui> katco Power7 and power8 isn't going to help
[21:21] <katco> oh =/
[21:21] <sinzui> katco, Ubuntu desupported PPC years ago. P8 is different, more than just the switch in endianess
[21:26] <perrito666> debian might, but iirc, by the time I sold the thing the only os running smoothly was osx.. Tiger?
[21:27] <katco> i think this is running mtn. lion
[21:27] <perrito666> katco: does it run ok with less than 1g?
[21:27] <katco> seems to
[21:27] <katco> i mean i'm mostly on the terminal, but safari is doing ok
[21:28] <katco> it's a really old version of safari though... i think i'd have to install FF or something if i wanted to browse seriously
[21:29] <sinzui> katco, The community is made trusty for G4 http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/releases/14.04/release/
[21:29] <katco> if anything the original HD is what slows me down the most
[21:29] <katco> sinzui: well, no point if i can't use it to test juju
[21:29] <sinzui> katco: true
[21:30] <sinzui> katco, Our current ppc64el machines will be removed in a few months. One option for QA and Core is to use Canonistack, which might get two power8 machines
[21:31] <menn0> /wii alexisb
[21:32] <alexisb> heya menn0
[22:04] <katco> sinzui: http://juju-ci.vapour.ws:8080/job/github-merge-juju/2966/ has been running for 5h41m?
[22:05] <sinzui> katco, wow, let me look
[22:05] <katco> sinzui: it looks like it might be the new functionality
[22:05] <katco> check-blockers.py or w/e
[22:05] <sinzui> katco, yes it is
[22:07] <sinzui> katco, oops, it is waiting for human input. I will have this fixed ina few minutes, but I will need ti resubmit this for the victim
[22:07] <katco> sinzui: np
[22:21] <perrito666> waigani: ping
[22:22] <waigani> perrito666: pong (or did you mean wallyworld?)
[22:23] <perrito666> nope, you
[22:23] <perrito666> waigani: https://github.com/juju/juju/commit/45f84f50 is it possible that the step you add in steps121.go was meant for steps122.go?
[22:24] <perrito666> I know its an old patch, but its worth trying
[22:25] <perrito666> waigani: we will know in like 20 mins anyway :p the test is running with the change applied
[22:26] <waigani> perrito666: cool, reading / remembering. There where a few cases we found where the same upgrade step had to be run for 1.21 and 1.22 - due to the timing of tweaks and releases
[22:27] <waigani> perrito666: so if it does pass, I wouldn't remove it from 1.21, but also add it to 1.22. Does that make sense?
[22:27] <perrito666> waigani: the thing is, that patch, and I might be wrong, is not merged into 1.21
[22:28] <waigani> perrito666: ah
[22:28] <perrito666> I am right
[22:28] <perrito666> https://github.com/juju/juju/blob/1.21/upgrades/steps121.go
[22:28] <perrito666> My guess, the merging got pushed
[22:28] <perrito666> and it entered after 1.21 cut
[22:30] <waigani> right, it would make sense for a 1.21 upgrade step to be on 1.21
[22:30] <waigani> perrito666: shall I can merge that back into 1.21?
[22:31] <perrito666> waigani: mm, I am not sure
[22:31] <perrito666> ask sinzui
[22:31] <perrito666> btw, kudos on the commit it is very concise it made discovering the issue quite easy when I figured out where it was
[22:32] <waigani> thanks :) at least I make my issues obvious ;)
[22:35] <perrito666> waigani: anyway, it is, I think, causing https://bugs.launchpad.net/juju-core/+bug/1447853 so I might fix it as part of that once I learn in which versions we want that applied
[22:35] <waigani> perrito666: so you're running tests on 1.23 with the upgrade test targeting 1.22 instead of 1.21?
[22:35] <mup> Bug #1447853: Local charms are not added to storage on upgrade to 1.22.x <charms> <regression> <storage> <upgrade-juju> <juju-core:Triaged> <juju-core 1.24:In Progress by hduran-8> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1447853>
[22:35] <perrito666> indeed, it was
[22:36] <perrito666> waigani: the thing is, all upgrade paths are broken because of that
[22:37] <waigani> perrito666: okay, well if the tests pass, definitely add it as a 1.22 upgrade step
[22:37] <perrito666> sinzui: please let me know where can this patch be applied, 1.22, 23 and 24?
[22:38] <perrito666> waigani: cheers, thanks a lot
[22:39] <waigani> perrito666: actually, I don't think we need to backport to 1.21. All the charm id changes are in the same PR as the upgrade step - intended to hit 1.21 but ended up in 1.22
[22:48] <alexisb> anastasiamac, ping
[23:37] <waigani> wallyworld: I've reverted http://reviews.vapour.ws/r/1512/ to my original PR. could you take a look at my last comment which explains why and let me know if that makes sense?
[23:42] <wallyworld> waigani: i'm not sure it's correct
[23:43] <wallyworld> if cBucket, ok := attrs["control-bucket"]; !ok <--- this will not result in ok = true if control bucket defaults to ""
[23:43] <wallyworld> hence the control bucket will not be generated
[23:45] <waigani> wallyworld: yep, that's what I was thinking and it's why I put that logic in. But the TestPrepareInsertsUniqueControlBucket passes without the logic
[23:45] <wallyworld> so the test is wrong
[23:45] <wallyworld> :-)
[23:45] <wallyworld> maybe
[23:45] <wallyworld> haven't looked
[23:46] <wallyworld> i bet if you test live it would fail
[23:47] <waigani> wallyworld: openstack also works like this. It looks like the configDefaults are used for validating unknown attrs - let me track down where the config used in prepare is being build
[23:47] <waigani> wallyworld: I'll test live too
[23:52] <sinzui> perrito666, 1.24 and 1.25 per the bug. 1.22 is dead to me. 1.23 is doable, though we are not committing to a 1.23.3
[23:55] <sinzui> waigani, we cannot release 1.22 fixes though our PPAs because the version is superseded by 1.23.2. We can merge a fix into 1.23 for 1.23.3, but we are not commiting to a 1.23.3 at this time.
[23:59] <waigani> sinzui: okay. How do we resolve this bug then: https://bugs.launchpad.net/juju-core/+bug/1447853, we need to add an upgrade step to 1.22 to fix it?
[23:59] <mup> Bug #1447853: Local charms are not added to storage on upgrade to 1.22.x <charms> <regression> <storage> <upgrade-juju> <juju-core:Triaged> <juju-core 1.24:In Progress by hduran-8> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1447853>
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[19:45] <PabloRubianes> daker: this was the MR that you are waiting to get approved? https://code.launchpad.net/~daker/loco-team-portal/fix.1273491/+merge/229522
[19:45] <PabloRubianes> because this https://code.launchpad.net/~daker/loco-team-portal/fix.777098/+merge/151644 is Work in progress
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[00:35] <robert_ancell> What's the recommended method for installing a silo onto an Ubuntu touch device?
[00:37] <robert_ancell> I think it's running "phablet-config writable-image" and then apt-get installing the PPA but want to double check.
[01:20] <jcbjoe> question im looking at some youtube vidoes and it shows the BQ Aquaris and the MeizuMX4 and they have ubuntu-touch like a final version .. could i run this build or version on a nexus 5 ?
[01:52] <RAOF> robert_ancell: phablet-tools-citrain contains /usr/bin/citrain which has the “device-upgrade” command to snaffle packages from a silo.
[02:00] <robert_ancell> RAOF, awesome. I thought such a tool might exist
[02:33] <jcbjoe> anyone using a nexus 4 with or 5 with ubuntu-touch just trying to see if there is a final build or something since its actually being sold as a phone
[02:39] <Elleo> jcbjoe: the nexus 4 is one of the official reference devices, so there are official images for that; for the nexus 5 there are only community ports (as I understand it they're fairly good ports, but with some battery issues and a few bits of hardware not working right)
[02:39] <jcbjoe> got it
[06:24] <sturmflut-work> Good morning everybody
[06:29] <dholbach> good morning
[06:33] <sturmflut-work> dholbach: Morning!
[06:34] <dholbach> hey sturmflut-work
[07:46] <kissiel> Mirv, hi! Do you have a minute?
[07:49] <Mirv> kissiel: sure, at this hour :)
[07:50] <kissiel> Mirv, I remember you helping us push checkbox-touch to the store
[07:50] <kissiel> Mirv, is there a new way to do that, or someone still has to do it manually?
[07:55] <Mirv> kissiel: someone else like popey might have the best answer if there's a new way for that, but there's still the old way too (well, it did change a bit but I should have the newest bits)
[07:55] <kissiel> Mirv, mm, okay
[07:56] <kissiel> Mirv, so still manual, eh? https://launchpad.net/checkbox-touch/+milestone/1.1 here's the current click, what else should I bring?
[07:58] <Mirv> kissiel: the click looks good, let's in parallel wait for an answer whether you can upload it yourself and I'll try if I can upload (at first sight, it seems my setup has a python problem)
[07:58] <kissiel> Mirv, allright, thanks, I'm off to meetings, I'll be back in ~60minutes
[08:13] <popey> Mirv: kissiel I can upload for you
[08:17] <Mirv> popey: so you do it via web or such?
[08:18] <popey> yes
[08:18] <popey> login to store, upload, like anyone else
[08:19] <sil2100> popey, ogra_, jibel, davmor2, Mirv: hey guys, I changed the calendar to only have 2 morning and 2 evening meetings in the week - two on Monday to plan out the work for the whole week for both the EU and US timezone, one meeting on Thursday and one on Friday - those are more for 'promotion-like' decisions, as we usually have tests finished on those days
[08:19] <Mirv> oh, modern times!
[08:20] <Mirv> sil2100: ok, I can see that
[08:20] <Mirv> makes sense
[08:20] <popey> ok
[08:20] <sil2100> popey, ogra_, jibel, davmor2, Mirv: we can adjust them later if this setup doesn't quite work
[08:21] <davmor2> \o/ lie ins
[08:22] <Mirv> popey: kissiel: well as usual popey can check what happened, I got click-toolbelt now ~working again with the new version of it, and I got https://myapps.developer.ubuntu.com/dev/api/click-package-upload/com.ubuntu.checkbox/ but then an error when checking package status
[08:22] <Mirv> sil2100: should we have a daily cat hangout anyhow?
[08:23] <popey> Mirv: kissiel i see no changes to the app on the site.
[08:23] <oscar__> hello
[08:23] <Mirv> popey: yeah so the error message was probably correct in saying that there was an error
[08:23] <popey> (nothing that indicates a new version uploaded)
[08:23] <Mirv> popey: well, you can get the .click, gpg --verify it against the .sig and upload
[08:23] <popey> hello oscar__
[08:23] <popey> where from?
[08:23] <popey> ah lp
[08:24] <Mirv> popey: https://launchpad.net/checkbox-touch/+milestone/1.1
[08:24] <popey> ta
[08:24] <oscar__> How can I do to unlock the phone ubuntu
[08:24] <popey> define "unlock"?
[08:24] <kissiel> Mirv, I got no access to that URL
[08:25] <popey> kissiel: it fails click-reviewer-tools anyway. http://paste.ubuntu.com/10937021/
[08:25] <kissiel> popey, thanks!
[08:26] <popey> kissiel: specifically you need to update the framework and spit out a new click - the store will reject it otherwise.
[08:26] <walde079> susup guys
[08:26] <kissiel> popey, understood, will fix,test and ping you guys in a bit
[08:26] <davmor2> oscar__: how do you mean unlock?
[08:27] <oscar__> yes it because I define as security a pin of 4 digits and then the terminal by mistake set the phablet password for letters.
[08:28] <sil2100> Mirv: let's schedule a separate meeting for that ;) I'll join the cat club once we finally get ours!
[08:28] <oscar__> I'm using the "BQ Ubuntu Edition"
[08:28] <davmor2> popey: any ideas ^
[08:28] <oscar__> :(
[08:28] <oscar__> :(
[08:30] <Mirv> oscar__: the terminal app itself shouldn't set the password as letters, but indeed it asks for the 4 digit pin code via normal keyboard, if that's what you mean? you can type your 4 digits to the terminal with that normal keyboard
[08:30] <Mirv> sil2100: ok! ;)
[08:30] <popey> yeah, its the same password
[08:30] <popey> sudo / unlocking phone / terminal / file manager - same pin/passphrase
[08:31] <Mirv> oh, I probably shouldn't be asking that but... any tips to hack app lifecycle for certain apps, if I accept to void all warranties and such? ;)
[08:32] * Mirv would like ssh connections to stay open
[08:32] <Stskeeps> port mosh?
[08:32] <oscar__> but I do not have access to the applications, and the keyboard is numeric :(
[08:32] <Mirv> Stskeeps: hmm mosh might be an option here. I never really switched to that but in this case it might be time to switch.
[08:33] <Stskeeps> Mirv: it's totally lovely.
[08:33] <Mirv> so I've heard
[08:33] <oscar__> if I connect via USB can access the phone's shell?
[08:34] <popey> Mirv: i asked tvoss for a lifecycle exception for terminal - no reply
[08:35] <popey> pmg suggested it should be possible if developer mode switch is on.
[08:35] <popey> which I think is reasonable
[08:36] <oscar__> yes
[08:36] <oscar__> yes is active :(
[08:36] <sil2100> Mirv: btw. isn't there a LP team for cat owners or something? ;p
[08:38] <oscar__> I activated the mode of development because he was not able to change the password for the root user.
[08:38] <oscar__> And now? How can I get around the situation?
[08:39] <popey> oscar__: what is the problem you have right now?
[08:39] <popey> oscar__: Your password, set in System Settings -> Security & Privacy. That's the same as the password you use in Terminal, and sudo.
[08:39] <popey> So what is currently broken?
[08:40] <oscar__> to access the application asks for the security pin.
[08:40] <oscar__> and enter the pin does not accept
[08:41] <oscar__> yes this the same password
[08:41] <popey> you can lock and unlock your phone with the same pin?
[08:41] <jgdx> Mirv, +1 for mosh!
[08:42] <jgdx> a truly "you're not going to look back" system
[08:42] <oscar__> I am enter the same pin and not to allow unlock
[08:43] <popey> oscar__: what exactly did you do? You said something about root password? What did you do to set that?
[08:43] <davmor2> and why
[08:44] <popey> jgdx: yeah, mosh would be even more amazing if network manager wasn't broken in 15.04 :(
[08:44] <seb128> popey, how broken?
[08:44] <Mirv> popey: ok. yeah, reasonable under dev mode.
[08:45] <Mirv> sil2100: not sure if there's yet :D
[08:45] <popey> seb128: you can't have two network cards on the same machine on the same lan (e.g. Wired & Wifi on same network)
[08:45] <popey> known bug
[08:45] <oscar__> the console changed the password of the phablet user to "enter" and I enabled the developer so because he was not able to. As a safety had set the blockades pin 4440.
[08:45] <seb128> weird, wfm
[08:45] <popey> at the same time?
[08:45] <popey> it's known upstream too, and fixed with a patch I believe
[08:45] <seb128> dunno
[08:45] <Mirv> jgdx: just reading http://blog.cloudpassage.com/2012/09/25/mitigating-security-risks-mosh/ though :)
[08:45] <seb128> it routes through one at least
[08:45] <popey> right, thats the problem, "same time" is the key phrase
[08:45] <popey> not if both are on
[08:45] <seb128> I get access to internet&co
[08:46] <seb128> well I'm connected to both
[08:46] <seb128> and I can access to machines local&internet
[08:46] <seb128> not sure what else you could be doing
[08:46] <popey> me?
[08:46] <seb128> specifying the source interface?
[08:46] <popey> it's known upstream, not just me
[08:46] <seb128> well, I'm unsure how you can see the bug if everything is working
[08:46] <popey> cyphermox said it's on his to-do list
[08:46] <seb128> you want to force packets to go through the wifi?
[08:46] <seb128> or the eth?
[08:47] <seb128> and not the system to pick one for you?
[08:47] <popey> no, i just want it to work
[08:47] <oscar__> currently only have the numeric keypad to unlock and does not accept the pin
[08:47] <popey> it drops packets for 30 seconds, then works for 30 seconds
[08:47] <seb128> oh, urg
[08:47] <Mirv> + setting up mosh without making image writable (which I try to avoid currently) seems a bit hard since one isn't allowed to execute binaries form /home/phablet. who cares about security.. oh, right, me
[08:47] <seb128> I don't see that here, not sure why
[08:48] <popey> are both interfaces on same lan segment?
[08:48] <Mirv> but yes, thanks for reminding about mosh anyway, either that or disabling lifecycle management for terminal
[08:48] <popey> same subnet?
[08:48] <seb128> well, if cyphermox is on it let's hope he fixes it for those who get the issue
[08:48] <seb128> popey, my home config is a modem/dsl router with eth ports and a wifi ap
[08:48] <seb128> which I'm both using directly connected to my laptop/dock station
[08:48] <seb128> nothing else
[08:48] <seb128> so I guess so?
[08:48] <seb128> I'm not a sysadmin, didn't play with anything
[08:49] <popey> seb128: bug 1436330
[08:49] <seb128> just plugged the dock to the router
[08:49] <seb128> and enabled wifi
[08:49] <davmor2> oscar__: what? I think you are losing us. The console doesn't change anything. It might ask you to Enter your Password. The password is your pin. The only way it would of change would be if you changed it.
[08:49] <seb128> popey, thanks
[08:50] <oscar__> then I do not know what happened, because it changed the initial pin :(
[08:50] <popey> oscar__: did you use passwd on the command line, or some other tool to set the password?
[08:50] <popey> oscar__: you said you set root password?
[08:51] <oscar__> yes
[08:51] <oscar__> :(
[08:51] <popey> what did you do?
[08:51] <popey> Please, answer the questions specificall, as it's very hard to help when you don't, but answer questions we didn't ask.
[08:51] <popey> *specifically
[08:52] <oscar__> I apologize, but in the end did the following: sudo -i
[08:52] <popey> ok.
[08:52] <popey> that should work fine.
[08:53] <popey> what else?
[08:54] <oscar__> then i set the password
[08:55] <oscar__> then i set the password: passwd phablet
[08:55] <popey> ok, that's fine.
[08:56] <popey> so whatever you set the password to... that _is_ your pin
[08:56] <davmor2> popey: yeah the issue is going to be that the lock screen is set to pin so no way to type in a password
[08:57] <davmor2> popey: you can't type in boo with 1234
[08:58] <davmor2> popey: sound like oscar__ changed the password in the terminal but that didn't change the input method of the login screen
[08:58] <oscar__> I changed to a different and letters.
[08:58] <popey> right, I agree with davmor2
[08:59] <popey> connect via adb and then "passwd phablet" and set it to 1234 temporarily?
[08:59] <popey> then use system settings to set it to something better
[08:59] <oscar__> And now I have no way to unlock because the keyboard is just like digits.
[09:00] <davmor2> oscar__: read popey 's lines above it gives a possible solution
[09:00] <boichev> Does the upgrade to 15.05 require something special because I can't see it on the Aquaris 4.5 ?
[09:00] <oscar__> okay I'll see how I do it on mac
[09:00] <popey> boichev: we haven't released a 15.04 update for bq phones yet
[09:01] <seb128> jgdx, hey, any idea how what info to ask on issues like https://askubuntu.com/questions/614635/no-cellular-data-after-update ?
[09:01] <boichev> popey: ahh I see :) thanks
[09:01] <oscar__> I need a few minutes I'll be back
[09:01] <oscar__> Thank you for your support
[09:02] <JamesTait> Good morning all; happy World Wish Day! :-D
[09:04] <oscar__> The operating system apple where I can get the binary for debugging the mobile phone?
[09:04] <popey> you probably need adb from some android package
[09:05] <oscar__> nice
[09:06] <oscar__> :(
[09:07] <oscar__> to have the lock screen can not access the device via USB
[09:10] <popey> oh, yeah.
[09:10] <popey> This is a pickle.
[09:11] <davmor2> popey, oscar__ : adb won't work the phone isn't unlocked....maybe factory reset from the recovery
[09:11] <popey> ugh.
[09:12] <oscar__> And how I do it? how can I do a reset to factory can not unlock the screen?
[09:13] <davmor2> oscar__: give me 2 minutes
[09:13] <oscar__> okay davmor2
[09:16] <davmor2> oscar__: reboot the phone and press and keep the volume up key pressed. When you get the menu screen press volume up till the arrow is on recovery, ping me once you have that
[09:18] <oscar__> yes works!!!!
[09:18] <davmor2> oscar__: once the arrow is on recovery, press the volume down
[09:18] <oscar__> thank you very much !!!! you guys are the greatest !!!
[09:19] <davmor2> oscar__: there is more yet
[09:19] <davmor2> oscar__: you should now be on a screen with the ubuntu logo right?
[09:19] <popey> davmor2: sounds like he's fixed himself :)
[09:19] <oscar__> is identical to the bootloader android, is already doing recovery.
[09:20] <davmor2> oscar__: so you did the factory reset and are happy now \o/ you will lose all data but you will have a working phone again :)
[09:21] <oscar__> no :(
[09:21] <oscar__> It is in the same situation :(
[09:23] <davmor2> oscar__: did you do the factory reset?
[09:23] <davmor2> oscar__: or did you just go into recovery
[09:25] <ulrichard> I just had an incoming call, while I had the telephone app open. It rang, but I couldn't figure out how to accept it. Is that a known problem?
[09:25] <davmor2> oscar__: well do you need me to take you through resetting it?
[09:27] <oscar__> wait
[09:28] <oscar__> Now to try again unwittingly chose the "bootloader", how can I do to get back to the menu?
[09:29] <oscar__> the screen is to appear: Fastboot mode ...
[09:30] <oscar__> how can I return to the menu?
[09:30] <davmor2> oscar__: I didn't say bootloader
[09:30] <davmor2> oscar__: I said recovery
[09:30] <oscar__> sorry
[09:33] <davmor2> oscar__: press the power button and vol up button for a very long time.
[09:34] <oscar__> ok
[09:35] <davmor2> oscar__: then select recovery and press the volume down
[09:35] <oscar__> yes did it. this time appears the logo of ubuntu
[09:36] <davmor2> one second let me get to the same place now
[09:37] <davmor2> oscar__: on the recovery page press volume up that should give you a menu
[09:38] <davmor2> oscar__: now press down to wipe data/factory reset
[09:39] <oscar__> yes
[09:39] <davmor2> oscar__: now press power
[09:39] <davmor2> oscar__: then press down till you get to the Yes -- delete all user data
[09:39] <oscar__> now: -- Wiping data...
[09:40] <oscar__> Data wipe complete.
[09:40] <davmor2> oscar__: when that finishes select reboot the system now
[09:40] <oscar__> ok
[09:41] <davmor2> oscar__: you back setting up your phone now right?
[09:41] <oscar__> Now yes. Factory reset done!
[09:42] <oscar__> Yes it works perfectly.
[09:43] <oscar__> Thanks again for your help and patience in helping me. Grateful.
[09:43] <davmor2> oscar__: now just remember that the pin you set is the system password throughout
[09:44] <davmor2> oscar__: no worries glad you are back to a working system]
[09:44] <popey> nice one davmor2
[09:44] <popey> davmor2: we should document this...
[09:45] <popey> http://askubuntu.com/questions/609938/how-do-i-factory-reset-a-bq-aquaris-e4-5-ubuntu-edition-from-the-handset
[09:45] <popey> someone has :)
[09:45] <davmor2> \o/
[09:47] <oscar__> I'll see what happened. I will try to reproduce the same mistake. It seems that when setting the screen lock as four numbers and then in terminal change to another type of password is not very clear.
[09:48] <oscar__> Thanks for everything !!!
[09:48] <davmor2> oscar__: you can change it to a password just use the tool provided in system-setting rather than the terminal
[09:49] <oscar__> Yes it makes sense :)
[09:52] <Se7> morning all
[11:05] <jgdx> seb128, hm, I'll take a look
[11:06] <TenLeftFingers> Looking at bugs filed against the browser. I don't see anything for what I'm experiencing - the notification bar sometimes overlaps the top of the browser. Sometimes the browser moves up and covers the notification bar (although swiping down still works). But on first launch, it typically displays itself beneath the notification area like other apps. should I file this?
[11:06] <sturmflut-work> Saviq: Ping
[11:07] <Saviq> sturmflut-work, wassup?
[11:11] <sturmflut-work> Saviq: Regarding the e-mail from Davide Alberelli about the "False Roaming", this is a somewhat special and complicated case. Two german providers joined their network and it is intentional that the phone roams from one into the other. The only difference I see between Android and Ubuntu Touch is that Android apparently roams to the other network and activates mobile data *without* the user having to activate "data roaming".
[11:13] <Saviq> sturmflut-work, well, yeah, that's what I meant, we need to differentiate between "local/national" and "abroad" roaming
[11:17] <sturmflut-work> Saviq: Sadly the situation is complicated further by the fact that the two providers are changing their configurations during normal operation, sometimes one region at a time, and they have lots of MVNOs on their network too which all have to change their settings as well. There are lots of problems with non-Ubuntu phones too. I wonder if the problem can be properly debugged at the moment.
[11:18] <Saviq> sturmflut-work, dunno, we might need to introduce network-specific quirks if we can't reliably determine stuff from the network props and such
[11:19] <Saviq> sturmflut-work, it's why I asked for a bug report so that people that know more about this can relate
[11:20] <sturmflut-work> Saviq: I have the necessary SIM cards and phones here, but am short on time at the moment. Should I come up with something today I'll try to file a proper bug report.
[11:20] <Saviq> sturmflut-work, thanks, very much appreciated
[11:21] <jgdx> popey, what's the issue with nm and mosh?
[11:21] <popey> jgdx: bug in nm causes machines with more than one network connection to fail to talk to the network
[11:22] <popey> not a mosh problem
[11:22] <jgdx> yes, nm on 15.04 has been a treat so far :p
[11:23] <popey> lies
[11:23] <popey> it never connects for me on wake from suspend.
[11:23] <popey> i have to manually fiddle the connections
[11:24] <jgdx> Wi-Fi? Mine's ultra quick, the connected notification is there immediately after login
[11:24] <popey> this is a known bug
[11:24] <popey> upstream
[11:24] <jgdx> ah
[11:26] <jgdx> communication between wpa and nm is at a new low I find
[11:53] <ledtape> yotelet
[12:12] <sturmflut-work> Saviq: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ofono/+bug/1449990
[12:14] <sturmflut-work> Saviq: I'll be leaving germany in a couple of hours so if something vital is missing it would be best if you could tell me within the next two hours, otherwise I may not be able to help until monday
[12:23] <Saviq> sturmflut-work, this is awesome, thanks
[12:58] <matv1> question: how come Document Viewer so much faster at displaying large files than the other pdf viewers in the store?
[12:59] <lotuspsychje> matv1: maybe its built with lightweight use in mind
[12:59] <lotuspsychje> like mupdf for ubuntu desktop
[13:00] <kissiel> popey, still here? :) I've created follow-up release of checkbox, now click-review complains only about being unconfined; it's here https://launchpad.net/checkbox-touch/trunk/1.1.1/+download/com.ubuntu.checkbox_1.1.1_multi.click
[13:02] <popey> kissiel: ok!
[13:02] <popey> kissiel: want it uploaded and published?
[13:03] <kissiel> popey, I surely do :)
[13:03] <popey> kissiel: got a changelog of what's new from 1.0.2?
[13:04] <kissiel> popey, http://paste.ubuntu.com/10939818/
[13:04] <seb128> jgdx, thanks
[13:04] <kissiel> popey, is this okay?
[13:04] <popey> perfect
[13:05] <matv1> lotuspsychje yeah maybe but i feel its more to it thn that. guess i would have to dive into the code
[13:06] <popey> kissiel: done, 1.1.1 is in the store
[13:06] <kissiel> popey, \o/
[13:07] <kissiel> popey, thank you! Now, the other thing... Is there any piece of info about how to push such unconfined apps?
[13:08] <popey> kissiel: i don't understand the question.
[13:08] <kissiel> popey, sorry; do we have to do this manually every time?
[13:09] <popey> yes
[13:09] <lotuspsychje> matv1: maybe this is a good start? https://launchpad.net/ubuntu-docviewer-app
[13:09] <popey> matv1: what other pdf viewers?
[13:09] <kissiel> popey, well, ok...
[13:10] <popey> matv1: docviewer is written in C++, there is only one other I know of and it's js.
[13:10] <popey> that may explain it :)
[13:10] <matv1> PdfjsViewer
[13:10] <matv1> right
[13:10] <lotuspsychje> yeah i agree pdfviewer lags much more
[13:13] <popey> kissiel: we have restrictions on unconfined apps in the store, but feel free to email me whenever you want to upload, or just ping me on irc.
[13:13] <kissiel> popey, if it's ok with you, I'll do that :) thanks for the support
[13:13] <popey> np
[13:23] <sturmflut-work> Saviq, mterry: Can I add anything else to https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/unity8/+bug/1421455 ? I thought about profiling the system with perf, but looks like there is no perf for this kernel.
[13:33] <sturmflut-work> mterry: By the way, according to strace upowerd tries to open a bunch of non-existing files in /sys/devices/platform/battery/power_supply/battery/ every ten seconds on the bq.
[13:33] <mterry> sturmflut-work, curious... :-/
[13:33] <mterry> sturmflut-work, might be worth its own bug
[13:37] <sturmflut-work> mterry: I filed one, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/upower/+bug/1450026
[13:37] <sturmflut-work> Argh, I wrote "E.45"
[14:37] <kenvandine> popey, what's the url to your click mirror?
[14:37] <popey> heheh
[14:37] <popey> for me, 192.168.1.2 ㋛
[14:38] <popey> for you, http;//popey.mooo.com/mirror/clicks/
[14:39] <kenvandine> popey, thanks!
[14:39] <popey> np
[14:39] <kenvandine> popey, what would i do without you :)
[14:39] <popey> probably setup your own mirror eventually
[14:44] <cwayne_> that sounds like a lot of work
[14:44] <popey> it's also a lot of space
[14:44] <popey> I need to run fdupes on it to make hard links rather than having duplicated clicks/snaps everywhere
[14:45] <mcphail> a click mirror? Do you have lots of apparmor-disrespecting goodies on there?
[14:45] <popey> unlikely
[14:45] <popey> its stuff that has already hit the store
[14:45] <mcphail> aah!
[14:45] <popey> and only the stuff that is not pay-for
[14:46] <popey> 140G /srv/touch/clicks/
[14:46] <popey> :S
[14:46] <mcphail> wow
[14:47] <mcphail> that suggests the app ecosystem is quite healthy
[14:47] <popey> as I say, lots of dupes
[14:47] <popey> 140G /srv/touch/clicks/
[14:47] <popey> oops
[14:47] <popey> http://popey.mooo.com/mirror/clicks/graph_clicks.png
[14:47] * mcphail hopes btrfs gets automatic deduplication powers soon
[14:49] <popey> mcphail: yeah, this is a btrfs volume
[14:50] <mcphail> popey: aliasing "cp" to "cp --reflink=auto" can help
[15:19] <cyphermox> popey: seb128: I have the fix for routing wired vs. wifi, I'm testing that right now
[15:19] * popey hugs cyphermox
[15:20] <cyphermox> popey: https://launchpad.net/~mathieu-tl/+archive/ubuntu/build-tests/+sourcepub/4972466/+listing-archive-extra
[15:20] <cyphermox> if you want to give it a shot, it should be built soonish
[15:21] <popey> ooh
[15:21] <popey> I would _love_ to. thanks
[15:22] <cyphermox> I haven't tested the actual failure case yet (wiating for the build to finish), but it looks like it's using the proper metrics now, so I'm confident
[15:23] <popey> cyphermox: I'll let you know :)
[15:46] <SturmFlut> mterry: you might be interested in the comment to bug 1421455 I just submitted
[15:47] <mterry> SturmFlut, curious
[15:48] <SturmFlut> mterry: Well, if I look at all those strange kernel messages from Mediatek drivers, nothing seems curious anymore
[15:48] <mterry> :)
[15:49] <SturmFlut> mterry: I was thinking about the SD card as a source of problems. I follow linux-mmc and power saving for those things is just broken, it would maybe explain why different users see different delays, but then I realized that the original bug report came from a Nexus 4 and that one has no SD card slot.
[15:51] <SturmFlut> mterry: In the end it must be something introduced by Android or Mediatek, because the vanilla kernel apparently does not even accept "on" as a value to be written to /sys/power/state
[15:51] <mterry> SturmFlut, well the description for this bug says "This is not so bad on nexus4." There are other wake/screen problems in Touch, but this specific bug seems to mostly hit the BQ
[15:53] <john-mcaleely> popey, may I ask a random question? What's the lp project for the file manager app
[15:53] <john-mcaleely> ?
[15:59] <BOHverkill> john-mcaleely: i think this: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu-filemanager-app
[16:00] <john-mcaleely> BOHverkill, that does look right. thanks!
[16:00] <popey> john-mcaleely: BOHverkill is correct
[16:00] <BOHverkill> john-mcaleely: np
[16:00] <popey> incoming bugs?
[16:00] <BOHverkill> popey: ;)
[16:00] <john-mcaleely> popey, not this time. want to point someone at a place to contribute :-)
[16:01] <popey> \o/
[16:01] <popey> YAY!
[16:01] <BOHverkill> john-mcaleely: for the next time: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Avengers ;)
[16:01] <popey> also point them to me
[16:01] * popey puts on his cape and swooshes out
[16:01] <john-mcaleely> :-)
[16:02] <john-mcaleely> BOHverkill, good page. thanks
[16:03] <BOHverkill> john-mcaleely: np ;)
[16:11] <SturmFlut> Is it possible to change the kernel command line of the device? Without breaking too much
[16:12] <SturmFlut> mterry: ^^
[16:12] <mterry> SturmFlut, I'm not sure how, to be honest
[16:12] <mterry> I guess you edit /boot/ stuff...
[16:12] <SturmFlut> mterry: Probably by changing either the bootloader settings or the bootloader itself
[16:13] <SturmFlut> mterry: /boot is empty on the phone :/
[16:17] <SturmFlut> mterry: I'm checking out the krillin kernel code, maybe I can find anything
[16:18] <mterry> ooph, good luck! :)
[16:22] <greyback> SturmFlut: the "fastboot" tool has a "-c" switch that "overrides kernel commandline" - I'd be careful if I were you though
[16:25] <ogra_> SturmFlut, abootimg ...
[16:25] <SturmFlut> greyback, ogra_ : Thanks!
[16:31] <ogra_> SturmFlut, hmm, i might be wrong ... seems to not work on krillin
[16:33] <SturmFlut> ogra_: Yes, I just extracted the boot.img and there is an empty cmdline statement in bootimg.cfg
[16:33] <ogra_> SturmFlut, right, but not sure how to get that properly back in place once you changed it
[16:33] <ogra_> did you dd it out of the partition on the phone ?
[16:34] <ogra_> abootimg can change the commandline in place without extracting btw
[16:34] <SturmFlut> ogra_: Ah, wait a moment, I have to look around a bit more
[16:39] <SturmFlut> ogra_: Which partition is it on the phone? /dev/mmcblk0boot0? Can't find it
[16:39] <ogra_> ondra, ^^ ?
[16:40] <ogra_> ondra, is there a way for SturmFlut to dd the boot.img out of a device partition ?
[16:40] <ondra> SturmFlut which one are you looking for? boot image partition?
[16:40] <ogra_> yeah
[16:40] <ondra> ogra_ SturmFlut $ cat /dev/boot > /cache/boot_backup.img
[16:40] <ondra> it will read whole partition, including zeros on the end
[16:40] <ogra_> /dev/BOOT i guess then
[16:41] <SturmFlut> ondra: My core goal is to pass the "debug" option to the kernel so I can maybe find this stupid power management issue
[16:41] <ondra> but no harm there, it's just 20M
[16:41] <ondra> SturmFlut you can then unpack boot image
[16:41] <ondra> SturmFlut easiest way to pass kern commands is to update little kernel
[16:42] <SturmFlut> ondra: Any documentation on that?
[16:42] <ondra> SturmFlut sorry it's actually /dev/bootimg
[16:42] <ondra> SturmFlut in recovery
[16:42] <ondra> SturmFlut hmm probably not
[16:42] <ondra> SturmFlut so probably easier for you to play with boot.img
[16:43] <ogra_> yeah, once you can dd/cat it to an img abootimg should be easily usable
[16:43] <ogra_> (and you dont need to unpack to set the cmdline)
[16:44] <SturmFlut> I will hate Google forever for not specifying a proper boot process for Android
[16:48] <SturmFlut> ogra_, ondra: Okay, I pulled the contents of /dev/bootimg, extracted it and the "cmdline =" in the extracted bootimg.cfg is empty as well. So I checked against the boot.img contained in device-0142302186687e3e48e6987283f6caf5d471a4160f98aa6a3cb7658f96471297.tar.xz (krillin r21 firmware file) and everything is identical.
[16:49] <ogra_> SturmFlut, ah, cool
[16:50] <ogra_> then you should just be able too use abootimg -u on it
[16:50] <ogra_> abootimg -u /path/to/boot.img -c "cmdline=foobar"
[16:51] <ogra_> and to unset it again
[16:51] <ogra_> abootimg -u /path/to/boot.img -c "cmdline="
[16:51] <ondra> SturmFlut yep, it should be identical
[16:52] <SturmFlut> ondra: But then where does the kernel get its default kernel command line from?
[16:52] <ondra> SturmFlut from little kernel
[16:53] <ondra> SturmFlut which is /dev/uboot
[16:53] <SturmFlut> ondra: Ah, I was wondering about this "little kernel" the whole time ;) It's just uBoot
[16:53] * kissiel is away: break
[16:54] <ondra> SturmFlut yep
[16:54] <SturmFlut> How do I recover in the worst case? fastboot and a full reinstall?
[17:00] <SturmFlut> ondra: How do I write my new boot.img back to the device? Just stuff it in /dev/bootimg again?
[17:01] <SturmFlut> ondra: How do I write my new boot.img back to the device? Just stuff it in /dev/bootimg again?
[17:02] <ogra_> SturmFlut, if you just want to add something the boot.img is the less dangerous option
[17:02] <ogra_> SturmFlut, if you just want to add something the boot.img is the less dangerous option
[17:02] <ogra_> if you actually want to modify an existing value it gets more tricky
[17:03] <SturmFlut> Well, the goal is still to put the kernel in debug mode, just temporary
[17:03] <ogra_> yeah, i would use boot.img for that
[17:05] <SturmFlut> ogra_: I think there is a misunderstanding. I already used abootimg -u and changed the cmdline value. Now I have a new boot.img file, what do I do with it? Do I dd it back into /dev/bootimg? Or do I use fastboot to flash it?
[17:06] <ogra_> i guess both will work
[17:06] <ogra_> wait a sec til ondra is back at his place :)
[17:09] <SturmFlut> I have to switch trains, see you later maybe
[17:13] <ondra> SturmFlut just cat it back
[17:13] <ondra> SturmFlut cat new-boot.img > /dev/bootimg
[17:17] <AnssiG> hi, has anyone tried updating phone system image via 3g?
[17:30] <Mike100> hello
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[17:30] <Mike100> .
[17:30] <Mike100> .
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[17:30] <Mike100> anybody here?
[17:30] <gingermouse> I have a bunch of click packages I'd like to install. What's the command for that? pkcon seems to complain about signature verification.
[17:31] <sergiusens> gingermouse: add --allow-unauthenticated
[17:31] <ogra_> gingermouse, pkcon install-local --allow-untrausted /path/to/click
[17:31] <ogra_> bah
[17:31] <ogra_> --allow-untrusted
[17:31] <ogra_> sergiusens, you are so snappy already :P
[17:32] <gingermouse> Thanks sergiusens and ogra
[17:32] <gingermouse> *_
[17:32] <ogra_> (--allow-unauthenticated is a snappy option. wont work with click)
[17:32] * popey notes we lost --allow-untrusted from the /topic :)
[17:32] <popey> oh, it's in #ubuntu-app-devel :)
[17:32] <ogra_> popey, wrong channel perhaps ?
[17:33] <popey> haha
[17:33] <ogra_> :)
[17:33] <popey> ace
[17:33] * popey walks away from computers for the day
[17:33] <Mike100> anyways what;s this channel for , ubuntu smartphones?
[17:33] <popey> this one Mike100
[17:33] <popey> and please don't do the dots thing
[17:33] * k1l_ sets mode: popey +confused
[17:33] <popey> true dat
[17:33] <ogra_> low beer level ?
[17:33] <popey> wine and chilli tonight, and testing network manager :D
[17:34] <popey> o/
[17:34] <gingermouse> While I have you attentions, does anyone know how to make the X11 apps run on it like Will Cooke was doing? I think you need to add a PPA, but I don't know which one.
[17:34] <popey> willcooke: ^
[17:35] <willcooke> gingermouse, it's broken right now, we're fixing it
[17:35] <willcooke> then the plan is to get it in to the archive so you can apt-get install it
[17:35] <willcooke> caveat being it's not ready for general use, so expect further breakage
[17:36] <gingermouse> willcooke: I'm okay with breakage. I'm mostly trying to run hexchat since there aren't any IRC clients available.
[17:36] <Mike100> my ubuntu crashed
[17:36] <Mike100> my ubuntu crashed
[17:36] <Mike100> my ubuntu crashed
[17:36] <Mike100> my ubuntu crashed
[17:36] <Mike100> my ubuntu crashed
[17:36] <Mike100> my ubuntu crashed
[17:36] <Mike100> my ubuntu crashed
[17:36] <Mike100> my ubuntu crashed
[17:36] <Mike100> my ubuntu crashed
[17:36] <Mike100> my ubuntu crashed
[17:36] <Mike100> my ubuntu crashed
[17:36] <Mike100> my ubuntu crashedmy ubuntu crashedmy ubuntu crashedmy ubuntu crashedmy ubuntu crashedmy ubuntu crashedmy ubuntu crashedmy ubuntu crashedmy ubuntu crashedmy ubuntu crashedmy ubuntu crashedmy ubuntu crashedmy ubuntu crashedmy ubuntu crashedmy ubuntu crashedmy ubuntu crashedmy ubuntu crashedmy ubuntu crashedmy ubuntu crashedmy ubuntu crashedmy ubuntu crashedmy ubuntu crashedmy ubuntu crashedmy ubuntu crashedmy ubuntu crashedmy ubuntu crashedmy ubuntu crash
[17:36] <Mike100> my ubuntu crashedmy ubuntu crashedmy ubuntu crashedmy ubuntu crashedmy ubuntu crashedmy ubuntu crashedmy ubuntu crashedmy ubuntu crashedmy ubuntu crashedmy ubuntu crashedmy ubuntu crashedmy ubuntu crashedmy ubuntu crashedmy ubuntu crashedmy ubuntu crashedmy ubuntu crashedmy ubuntu crashedmy ubuntu crashedmy ubuntu crashedmy ubuntu crashedmy ubuntu crashedmy ubuntu crashedmy ubuntu crashedmy ubuntu crashedmy ubuntu crashedmy ubuntu crashedmy ubuntu crash
[17:36] <willcooke> sigh
[17:37] <gingermouse> =/
[17:37] <willcooke> gingermouse, the PPA is from mlankhorst in Launchpad, but will be moving soonish
[17:37] <gingermouse> Ah okies.
[17:37] <willcooke> once you've added the PPA apt-get update and apt-get install xserver-xorg-xmir
[17:38] <willcooke> then you can apt-get install X applications
[17:38] <willcooke> (bearing in mind you need to make the image writeable and expand its size)
[17:38] <ogra_> and that you lose all upgrade support ...
[17:38] <willcooke> and then you need a hacky shell script to launch things in the right order
[17:38] <gingermouse> Is it this one? https://launchpad.net/~mlankhorst/+archive/ubuntu/ppa
[17:38] <willcooke> yeah
[17:38] <SturmFlut> ogra_: Okay, writing boot.img back to /dev/bootimg didn't break my device, but it also didn't boot with the new cmdline.
[17:38] <willcooke> but it's broken
[17:39] <ogra_> it will also break completely at some point, be prepared to re-flash
[17:39] <willcooke> yup
[17:39] <willcooke> it's really not ready yet :)
[17:39] * ogra_ looks forward to get rid of apt on the images
[17:40] <gingermouse> Heh, I totally get that. I did try and get it working earlier by pausing one of your YouTube videos and copying the script/.desktop file
[17:40] <willcooke> gingermouse, once we've fixed it and it's in the archive then I will post on G+ with proper instructions :)
[17:40] <willcooke> gingermouse, the .desktop file is fairly generic, it needs to point the EXEC to a shell script which:
[17:40] <willcooke> launches Xmir
[17:40] <ogra_> snappy install xmir FTW !
[17:41] <gingermouse> As soon as that happens, I can maybe start using Ubuntu as a daily driver! +D
[17:41] <willcooke> :)
[17:41] <gingermouse> *=D
[17:41] <SturmFlut> ondra: Sorry for disappearing. Now, how to install my new and updated boot.img on the device? fastboot flash boot?
[17:41] <ogra_> SturmFlut, he said you should just cat it back
[17:41] <willcooke> script needs to: 1) launch Xmir, 2) wait for it to load, 3) maybe launch an X based WM (eg icewm), 4) launch the X application passing in the display number from 1
[17:42] <SturmFlut> ogra_: Hmmmm, I'll retry. It didn't have any effect the first time. Maybe I screwed up somewhere.
[17:42] <ogra_> did you check the boot.img with abootimg -i ?
[17:42] <willcooke> gingermouse, I'm going EOD now but email me, ping me on G+, ping me on here tomorrow if you need more info
[17:42] <willcooke> ta ta
[17:42] <gingermouse> willcooke: Thanks!
[17:42] <willcooke> np
[17:43] <Mike100> hello gingermouse
[17:43] <Mike100> my keyboard has some issues
[17:43] <Mike100> the enter key stucks sometimes
[17:44] <ondra> SturmFlut you can do both cat it back, or fastboot
[17:44] <fredericc38> hi !!
[17:44] <SturmFlut> ogra_: I'll document this once I figure it out completely, this Android stuff is just horrible. As if it would have killed them to just give us UEFI on ARM.
[17:45] <SturmFlut> ogra_: according to abootimg -i the cmdline is correct.
[17:45] <ondra> SturmFlut just fastboot it then
[17:46] <SturmFlut> ondra: Will do
[17:46] <ogra_> SturmFlut, yeah, UEFI or even grub would be so cool
[17:46] <ogra_> one day we sell millions and millions of devcies and manufacturers open up the drivers for use that will happen
[17:46] <ogra_> in 10 years or so :P
[17:47] <fredericc38> I swap to touch since several weeks and I got a problem with crontab and syncevolution. Someone is confident with. thanks
[17:50] <ogra_> fredericc38, can you be more detailed ? what did you try, what didnt work exactly etc
[17:51] <ogra_> note that cron will only run when the device is not suspended
[17:52] <ogra_> it wont wake it up
[17:52] <fredericc38> ok thanks manually I can sync with my owncloud server (addressbook and contacts)but when I "crontab -e" my command line "syncevolution owncloud" that's working.
[17:53] <fredericc38> ok thanks manually I can sync with my owncloud server (addressbook and contacts)but when I "crontab -e" my command line "syncevolution owncloud" that's not working.
[17:53] <ogra_> did you check syslog for errors ?
[17:53] <fredericc38> there is no error in syslog.
[17:54] <fredericc38> I just can see that contab happen
[17:55] <fredericc38> @hourly /usr/bin/syncevolution owncloud
[17:56] <ogra_> did you try using a proper format for the time there ... instead of @hourly ?
[17:58] <fredericc38> yes.... same thing
[17:58] <fredericc38> but in same time I synchronize my picture with rsync and that's working properly.
[17:59] <ogra_> and you set the crontab up as the phabelt user ?
[18:00] <ogra_> *phablet
[18:00] <utu8o> is there a stable version yet? just wondering
[18:00] <ogra_> there are phones on slae, yes
[18:00] <ogra_> *sale
[18:01] <utu8o> this is made for convertible laptops and desktops too right?
[18:01] <ogra_> not yet ...
[18:01] <mcphail> fredericc38: I don't think crontab fires whenever the screen switches off
[18:01] <ogra_> in a year or so ...
[18:01] <ogra_> currently it is only phones and tablets
[18:02] <utu8o> is the there touchscreen and desktop mode or just touchscreen?
[18:02] <ogra_> mcphail, fredericc38, yeah thats what i said above ...
[18:02] <ogra_> cron will not wake up the devices
[18:02] <ogra_> utu8o, currently only touchscreen ... with focus on phones ...
[18:02] <utu8o> oh ok
[18:03] <ogra_> (and specifically the preinstallled phones that are/go on sale)
[18:03] <mcphail> ogra_: sorry, missed that
[18:03] <ogra_> :)
[18:04] <mcphail> fredericc38: remember all the usual caveats with cron: making sure you use full paths and are executing the commands from the correct directory etc
[18:08] * mterry is having trouble getting anything to flash onto mako or krillin
[18:08] <mterry> anyone else?
[18:23] <SturmFlut> ogra_: I lost most of my respect for ARM the day I found out that they never specified a standard way to boot a system, and then I lost the little bit that was left when I found out that most parts of an ARM system do not support autoconfiguration and enumeration.
[18:26] <ogra_> SturmFlut, well, u-boot is a quasi standard since a while
[18:29] <wxl> hey folks, android device manager interacts with frameworks, right? cuz it sure doesn't seem to be able to detect my phone
[18:34] <SturmFlut> ogra_: a quasi-standard bootloader is no replacement for a proper boot specification and a proper firmware interface. Luckily we are finally getting UEFI and APCI on AArch64, but that wasn't ARMs own idea, other people had to force it onto them. I hate to say it, but Intel got that one right. It is nearly impossible to build an x86 system that won't boot a standard Linux distribution kernel. While it is nearly impossible to build a Linux kernel
[18:34] <SturmFlut> that will boot on more than one ARM SoC.
[18:34] <studio_> hi
[18:35] <SturmFlut> ogra_: That's why you can just put standard Ubuntu on a Windows tablet, but you can't put standard Ubuntu on an Android phone.
[18:35] <fredericc38> "<ogra_> mcphail, fredericc38, yeah thats what i said above ..." but that's working with rsync....(sorry I was at the dinner)
[18:36] <studio_> how to use mirscreencast to make a "cast" on my own network?
[18:39] <SturmFlut> studio_: I remember an old e-mail on the mailing list about that, and from what I recall WiFi was not good enough for it in the end, the guy doing it had to attach an USB Ethernet adapter. Or something like that.
[18:39] <SturmFlut> studio_: https://lists.launchpad.net/ubuntu-phone/msg11787.html
[18:41] <SturmFlut> studio_: I think the best solution was https://lists.launchpad.net/ubuntu-phone/msg11826.html
[18:41] <studio_> SturmFlut, i thought i can compare to raspivid, for raspberry and vcl. for exp: raspivid -fps 25 -o - -t 0 -w 600 -h 400 | cvlc --no-inhibit stream:///dev/stdin --sout '#rtp{sdp=rtsp://:8554/}' :demux=h264. but demux seems to be raw or tomething like that?
[18:41] <SturmFlut> studio_: I have no idea. I just remembered the discussion about it, have never used it myself.
[18:42] <studio_> SturmFlut, your example is not a live stream
[18:43] <SturmFlut> studio_: It is supposed to be, in the last e-mail I linked to he uses mplayer and calls mirscreencast in a while loop.
[18:43] <studio_> that guy is using nc
[18:44] <studio_> i'd like to make a broadcast
[18:45] <jcbjoe> im getting my nexus 4 soon and im wondering how is the battery life on it with ubuntu-touch
[18:46] <studio_> is "mirscreencast" just the name for a capture-tool or can it handle a "cast"?
[18:47] <anpok> the capture tool
[18:47] <studio_> ok
[18:51] <studio_> anpok, have you ever tried to make a live stream from your device?
[18:52] <anpok> iirc there is a problem with the tool right now
[18:52] <anpok> at least in vivid
[18:54] <studio_> i can't test in the moment, because i am on android right now. i was just reading about miraclecast and mirscreencast.
[18:54] <ogra_> studio_, i think you need to wait til the WIFI driver actually supports that mode
[18:55] <ogra_> WIFI AP mode and PTP mode will also get you miracast support ... once that landed
[18:56] <studio_> ogra_, i think i also have to wait for the "root less X" ;)
[18:56] <ogra_> no idea about that one, but currently the WIFI driver will definitely block you
[18:58] <studio_> i do not understand, i can dot do something like "mirscreencast -m /var/run/mir_socket" ... | cvlc ... demux=raw?
[18:58] <ogra_> the mirscreencast scripts on the ML can surely kind of serve as a workaround hack :)
[18:59] <ogra_> though yoou would have to find a solution for sound, i think the guy only did it for video
[19:00] <popey> cyphermox: <3 - looks fixed here!
[19:00] <studio_> ah, sound is the problem, sorry, i just thought about the video ...
[19:01] <popey> gstreamer can send audio over the network
[19:01] <ogra_> or bluetooth
[19:02] <ogra_> i doubt the script solutiopn is good enough for smoothly streaming movies or some such though
[19:02] <ogra_> but try it
[19:02] <studio_> bluetooth can send the video in 60fps?
[19:02] <ogra_> no, i was talking about audio +
[19:02] <studio_> ok :)
[19:04] <popey> you cant send video smoothly any way you do it
[19:05] <popey> mirscreencast on the bq can't capture fast enough
[19:05] <studio_> ogra_, for me BT and Audio-Streaming was never working from the bq E4.5 to my Ubuntu Desktop 14.04, is there a how-to?
[19:06] <ogra_> dunno, i never streamed to another PC ... it works flawless to BT speackers, my HIFI system and various other BT audio devices
[19:07] <studio_> you never tried to a Ubuntu-Desktop?
[19:07] <ogra_> no
[19:07] <studio_> :(
[19:10] <SturmFlut> ondra, ogra_: Oh, the joys of vendor kernels. Writing to /dev/bootimg will result in a kernel stack trace on my device. That's why it didn't work.
[19:11] <ogra_> lovely :)
[19:11] <studio_> hmm, i thought "ubuntu convergence" is the "magic word"?
[19:11] <ogra_> studio_, and what would convergence have to do with streaming audio via BT to another machine ?
[19:12] <studio_> convergence?
[19:12] <ogra_> yes ?
[19:12] <studio_> but it can not
[19:12] <ogra_> ?
[19:13] <studio_> try to stream audio from your bq E4.5 to you Ubuntu-Desktop via bluetooth
[19:14] <ogra_> why would i ?
[19:15] <ogra_> my desktp has a crappy sound system
[19:15] <studio_> convergence
[19:15] <ogra_> and why would that have anything to do with convergence
[19:15] <ogra_> i dont get you, sorry
[19:16] <Elleo> studio_: in a convergence usecase the phone *is* the desktop, so you wouldn't typically be streaming to another computer, just to normal bluetooth speakers
[19:17] <Elleo> studio_: or alternatively sending all the audio via MHL -> HDMI or somethin
[19:17] <Elleo> something*
[19:17] <ogra_> right, this isnt any "convergence" task ... just normal Bt connectivity
[19:17] <studio_> you can't. connect your desktop to your sound-system via toslink and stream from your bq E4.5 to your Ubuntu-Desktop
[19:17] <ogra_> (and perhaps a bug ... not sure ... forcus is definitely on streaming to headsets, car systems, HIFI or speakers)
[19:18] <ogra_> i'd call streaming to a desktop PC a pretty exotic usecase ... but i'm probably weird
[19:19] <studio_> ogra_, streaming audio from a mobile device is not "exotic"
[19:19] <ogra_> to a desktop ...
[19:19] <popey> to a chromecast maybe, to a desktop, nuh-uh
[19:20] <studio_> to a bt-receiver
[19:20] <ogra_> i stream to my HIFI all day ... and also have a small BT speaker i stream to
[19:20] <ogra_> and use a BT headset at times
[19:20] <ogra_> i have never in my life streamed to a PC
[19:20] <ogra_> (via BT that is)
[19:21] <ogra_> but file a wishlist bug ...
[19:22] <studio_> ogra_, maybe you never streamed audio to a "PC" but where is the different to stream it to a PC which is the BT-Receiver?
[19:22] <ogra_> i have no idea, please file a bug
[19:22] <popey> It does sometimes seem like studio_ comes up with the most exotic, obtuse ways to use devices.
[19:22] <ogra_> yeah
[19:22] <ogra_> s/sometimes//
[19:23] <anpok> well... regarding audio streaming..
[19:23] <anpok> audio playback through usb would be really nice
[19:23] <ogra_> you mean via DAC ?
[19:23] <anpok> yes
[19:23] <ogra_> yeah
[19:23] <studio_> popey, i allways ask "exotic" questions. exotic questions are right before time ...
[19:24] <ogra_> i fogot about it but wanted to file a bug ages ago that we get the right modules enabled
[19:24] <ogra_> anpok, mind doing that ?
[19:24] <anpok> file where?
[19:24] <ogra_> (will need pulse profiles too though)
[19:24] <ogra_> canoical-system-image
[19:24] <ogra_> pmcgowan can then triage it (low/wishlist or so)
[19:24] <anpok> oh so you think this is just a matter of module enablement?
[19:25] <ogra_> no
[19:25] <anpok> i thought we also need pulse audio settings and ui for that
[19:25] <ogra_> it is also a matter of pulse
[19:26] <ogra_> right ... to work on the pulse side we need the modules first though
[19:26] <ogra_> or USB_DAC support builtin ... or so
[19:27] <ogra_> i left my DAC at home, perhaps there is even already something enabled
[19:27] * ogra_ can test next week
[19:28] <anpok> ok writing it down..
[19:28] <ogra_> (or if you have one, wire it up and watch dmesg ... and attach it to the bug)
[19:29] <anpok> hm i once plugged an usb head set.. I think alsa detected it..
[19:29] <buildit> are you for real?!
[19:32] <studio_> last question for today, i hope, can UT handle m3u or m3u8 playlists from the internet?
[19:32] <anpok> ogra_: https://bugs.launchpad.net/canonical-devices-system-image/+bug/1450170
[19:34] <popey> studio_: like streaming audio?
[19:35] <studio_> audio "and" video
[19:35] <popey> possibly, if someone wrote an app to find the audio/video stream and passed it to media-hub / mediaplayer
[19:35] <ogra_> studio_, no it cant
[19:35] <ogra_> i opened a bug for that ...
[19:36] <ogra_> (and ths time i *can* blame jhodapp !! hah !)
[19:36] <jhodapp> ogra_, hah, guilty! :)
[19:37] <ogra_> bug 1407693
[19:37] <studio_> popey, i do not understand. why the mediaplayer is not able to figure out it is an audio- or video-stream?
[19:38] <jhodapp> studio_, that feature (m3u playlists) is coming first...then possibly .m3u8 (http live streaming support) in the future
[19:38] <studio_> m3u8 in the future, but what is for now with m3u?
[19:39] <jhodapp> not supported yet but coming
[19:39] <Elleo> popey / studio_: I have a half-finished shoutcast app that manually parses the m3u and passes the stream along to media hub which works fine
[19:39] <studio_> ok
[19:40] <jhodapp> Elleo, that's cool, soon you'll be able to simply load that playlist via QMediaPlaylist and have media-hub automatically use it for the current tracklist
[19:40] <Elleo> jhodapp: cool
[19:40] <jhodapp> by giving it the URL
[19:44] <popey> Neat!
[19:47] <studio_> Elleo, nice, but that is just a Scope for Shoutcast. My question was, how do i, as user, play my own m3u/m3u8 without a Scope, thaz is allways checking my connectivity?
[19:48] <ogra_> studio_, you write a scope that does that (by stealing Elleo's code and adjusting it for your use case) ... and upload it to the store
[19:48] <studio_> i never write a scope
[19:48] <ogra_> well
[19:49] <ogra_> then you will have to wait til someone else does it
[19:49] <studio_> i need apps, and not web-apps or scopes
[19:49] <ogra_> doesnt need to have to be a scope, you can indeed also write an app
[19:49] <studio_> why schoult i do that? write xmir for mir
[19:50] <ogra_> well, you want functionality that isnt there yet ... for such cases we give you an SDK to easily write an app
[19:50] <ogra_> either help yourself or wait ... these are the two options
[19:53] <studio_> armhf is working fine on X without Mir, you said you will enable that through a "Rootless X on Mir" ... but now it is not compatible ...
[19:53] * ogra_ wonbders what that has to do with m3u playlist support
[19:53] <popey> (or pay someone else to do it)
[19:54] <ogra_> popey, was that a cheap try for getting extra pay ?
[19:54] <studio_> popey, if i "pay" for a bq E4.5, it will be compatible?
[19:54] <popey> with software that doesn't exist? sure. whatever.
[19:54] <ogra_> if you find a programmer who wants to do that and you pay him to explicitly write the app for the bq, sure
[19:55] <ogra_> (though it would be pointless to restrict an app to a single device ... especially with such an abstract SDK/framework)
[19:56] <ogra_> mpt, hey ho ... i recently seeded openvpn intho the images ... i was wondering if you already have any UI work for VPN settings
[19:56] <studio_> popey, and ogra_, i never "payed" for a software unter "Ubuntu" if i should pay, then i'll switch to another debian derivate
[19:56] <ogra_> studio_, you dont have to pay, you can write it yourself (which was the first thing we suggested to you)
[19:57] <ogra_> or you can wait
[19:57] <popey> you're missing the point completely
[19:57] <ogra_> and if you dont want to do either you could also pay someone ...
[19:57] <popey> 1) wait for software, 2) write software, 3) pay someone else to write software, 4) convince (with no payment) someone else to write software, 5) walk away
[19:57] <popey> those are pretty much your options
[19:58] <studio_> popey, ogra_ said "wait" so why i am missing the point?
[19:58] <ogra_> wow, you extended the list even !
[19:58] <popey> :)
[19:58] <popey> you missed the point because you implied that you _have_ to pay
[19:58] <popey> i never said you have to pay
[19:58] <popey> just that it's an option
[19:58] <ogra_> studio_, no, i said "write" ... wait is just the other option :)
[19:59] <studio_> ogra_, it was your idea to use mir, or not?
[19:59] <ogra_> ?
[19:59] <ogra_> for m3u playlists ... nah, i dont think Mir would work for that
[20:00] <studio_> no, i mean to use Mir (Canonical), that in the moment no x-app is useable under mir
[20:01] <ogra_> no, that wasnt my decision
[20:01] <ogra_> but if we wouldnt have switched to Mir we would have switched to wayland (like everyone else will soon) ...
[20:01] <studio_> not your personal, sorry, i mean the company
[20:01] <ogra_> Xorg is dead
[20:02] <studio_> if xorg is dead, why wayland support X ?
[20:05] <ogra_> (or as bad as Mir... however you want to put it, both are not done yet)
[20:09] <studio_> done yet, sorry i do not understand, the blueprints are from 2013, and it is still not "done"?
[20:10] <ogra_> it took years to write Xorg ... do you expect the replacements (like Mir or Wayland) will be faster ?
[20:11] <studio_> ogra_, no, i am just a dump "user"
[20:11] <ogra_> not sure what you mean by that
[20:12] <ogra_> running X apps isnt 100% done in either Mir or Wayland yet ... which is the reason they are not the default on any desktop yet
[20:12] <studio_> User means, why it is not working on "this" os, but it is working on "that" os ...
[20:13] <ogra_> can you point to that particular OS where Mir or Wayland are the default and suppport X apps ?
[20:13] <ogra_> to my konledge such a thing doesnt exist yet
[20:14] <popey> See also, the answer we've given repeatedly for about a month now. It's not finished.
[20:14] <ogra_> right
[20:15] <ogra_> once that is finished it will become default on desktop
[20:18] <studio_> ogra_, i am "allways" using "ubuntu" since 12.04. I have seen, that "ubuntu-15.04-desktop-amd64.iso" isn't the same as "Ubuntu Next". On Ubuntu 12.04 or 14.04 i was able to choose my desktop, for exp. xfce. but what on Ubuntu-Next? Is it the same Windows8?
[20:19] <ogra_> no, it will be like todays desktop (or similar) once it is done
[20:19] <ogra_> it is an exprerimental image for developers so they have a base to work with when i.e. implementing support for X apps
[20:20] <studio_> ogra_, i hate Unity, Unity is not my Desktop!
[20:20] <ogra_> i cant help you then ...
[20:20] <ogra_> desktop next is the next unity desktop
[20:20] <ogra_> or will be ...
[20:20] <studio_> so ubuntu is switching to ms-windows
[20:20] <ogra_> ?
[20:21] <ogra_> ubuntu isnt switching to anything ... the desktop wont change much to how it looks and feels today
[20:21] <mterry> Are there any powerd / threading experts around? I *think* I see a bug, but I don't trust myself
[20:22] <studio_> ogra_, how to change this unity-desktop on the bq phone?
[20:22] <mterry> bug 1450017
[20:22] <ogra_> studio_, not at all ... it is a phone
[20:22] <mterry> (specifically my comments)
[20:22] <ogra_> it isnt a desktop ... it is that simple
[20:23] <studio_> ogra_, why you allways say "it is a phone"? it is not, it is ubuntu!
[20:24] <ogra_> it is an ubuntu phone ...
[20:24] <ogra_> not an ubuntu desktop
[20:24] <studio_> no, it is ubuntu
[20:24] <genii> ...
[20:24] <popey> oh jeez
[20:24] <studio_> what is ubuntu-desktop on arm?
[20:25] <popey> a task
[20:25] <ogra_> no idea
[20:25] <ogra_> i dont think we provide ubuntu-desktop on arm anymore
[20:25] <popey> studio_: this line of grilling isn't winning you any friends you know?
[20:25] <popey> ogra_: ubuntu mate has a rpi2 edition :)
[20:25] <ogra_> that has been dropped when we stopped supporteing the panda board two years ago
[20:25] <ogra_> popey, yeah
[20:25] <popey> it flies :)
[20:25] <ogra_> i would guess it flies
[20:25] <studio_> i have seen, that ut is also available for the rpi, right?
[20:26] <popey> nope
[20:26] <popey> !devices
[20:26] <ogra_> studio_, so there is an ubuntu mate desktop for arm, talk to the mate people
[20:26] <popey> the supported devices are in that list
[20:28] <studio_> ogra_, where are the differents between ubuntu touch, ubuntu mate and ubuntu next?
[20:30] <popey> studio_: what's your point?
[20:30] <ogra_> studio_, we just explained the difference ... ubuntu touch ... is essentially ubuntu for phones ... (teh touch term will soon die) ... ubuntu next is an experimental version of the upcoming desktop for developers
[20:30] <ogra_> and mate is a community flavour ... you have to ask the maintainers
[20:31] <studio_> ogra_, sorry, i can't see diffences between Ubuntu-Touch an Ubuntu-Next
[20:31] <popey> Ubuntu Next has no Android container.
[20:32] <popey> because it's currently on desktops, where that's not required
[20:32] <ogra_> studio_, "touch" is ubuntu for phones ....
[20:32] <popey> but next and touch are similar, built from similar codebases
[20:32] <ogra_> ubuntu-next will become the next desktop once it is done ... in a year or so
[20:34] <studio_> popey, is there a "list" what devices supports "Ubuntu-Next"?
[20:34] <popey> no
[20:34] <ogra_> amd64 machines only as far as i know
[20:34] <popey> well, yes. "Computers with Intel GPUs"
[20:34] <studio_> so for what is ubuntu next?
[20:34] <ogra_> right
[20:34] <popey> a demo / preview
[20:35] <ogra_> 64 bit intel ... what the developers that work on it use
[20:36] <studio_> hmm, i am right faster on my desktops with a mouse on the normal desktop than on ubuntu next?!
[20:36] <ogra_> ubuntu next isnt a thing to use
[20:37] <ogra_> so that question is moot
[20:37] <k1l> studio_: ubuntu-next is a prototype. it is MIR + unity8. but its not for daily use.
[20:37] <ogra_> ask it again in 12 months
[20:37] <studio_> ogra_, how to use "Next" without a mouse?
[20:37] <ogra_> you dont use it ... very simple
[20:38] <ogra_> it is not designed for usage
[20:38] <ogra_> it is designed as a base for the desktop developers to work on
[20:38] <ogra_> in a year from now it will be ready for using it ...
[20:38] <ogra_> (probably a bit earlier ... )
[20:39] <studio_> ogra_, i have seen the videos on youtube, a mouse is quit faster, and i can switch the desktops with the mouse
[20:39] <ogra_> not sure what you mean
[20:39] <studio_> ?
[20:40] <ogra_> my mouse is as fast on one desktop as it is on the other ... if you want it to move faster, adjust the mouse settings
[20:40] <studio_> how to switch the desktops on ubuntu-next?
[20:40] <popey> it doesn't have multiple desktops
[20:40] <ogra_> i doubt you can
[20:40] <ogra_> since it is not for users at all
[20:40] <popey> because... altogether now...
[20:40] <popey> "It's not finished yet"
[20:41] <ogra_> it is an experimental thing for developers to have a base to work on
[20:41] <ogra_> if you are a developer and want to contribute patches, use it and write your patches on it
[20:41] <ogra_> every question beyond this use case i will not answer anymore from now on ...
[20:41] <jgdx> abeato, bug #1426923 — thank you!
[20:41] <studio_> i hope it will just be an "experimental thing".
[20:42] <popey> studio_: no, as he said, when finished it will be the default desktop
[20:42] <ogra_> in a year it will be the defaul tubuntu desktop
[20:42] <abeato> jgdx, np, we are trying to get hotspot in arale here in Austin ;)
[20:42] <studio_> popey. no, "please"
[20:43] <popey> ?
[20:43] <studio_> popey, i'll never switch between my desktops?
[20:44] <popey> switch workspaces?
[20:44] <popey> or switch desktop environments?
[20:44] <Elleo> studio_: no one's going to force you to use it, it'll just be the default, like unity7 already is
[20:46] <studio_> Elleo, Windows and Android only can show one desktop, also no multible windows at the same time. i thought it is different on Ubuntu-Touch?
[20:46] <popey> Workspaces, we call them workspaces.
[20:46] <popey> studio_: Listen.
[20:46] <popey> It's not finished.
[20:46] <popey> How many times must we say this?
[20:46] <jgdx> abeato, fun! :) Let me know how it goes.
[20:47] <ogra_> popey, you repeat yourself :P
[20:47] <k1l> studio_: please start reading what was answered you several times now. if you keep that attitude that you ask over and over again because you dont like the answer we need to ban you again because that is not the behaviour we want to see from our users.
[20:47] <abeato> jgdx, we'll do :)
[20:48] <popey> +1
[20:48] <Elleo> studio_: I'm not sure I understand the question? unity8 can show multiple windows when its in windowed mode
[20:48] <studio_> popey, as i said, i am asking for "exotic" questions. I am not logging the irc-cannel, just for the future ...
[20:49] <ogra_> studio_, irclogs.ubuntu.com ... you dont need to log it, we do that for you
[20:49] <popey> studio_: I've said it 3 times today.
[20:49] <popey> studio_: whether you log or not is irrelavent.
[20:49] <popey> studio_: you're ignoring my answers, and that's just plain rude.
[20:50] <ogra_> +1
[20:50] <studio_> ogra_, log is not working, there are missing questions and answers!
[20:50] <popey> We have answered every single question you asked.
[20:50] <popey> Multiple times.
[20:50] <popey> We spend more time helping you than any other single individual in this channel.
[20:50] <ogra_> and one ...
[20:51] <popey> You are a _massive_ time sink.
[20:51] <popey> And you didn't even have the courtesty to buy the damn phone! :D
[20:51] <popey> -t
[20:51] <studio_> popey, i am talking about: http://irclogs.ubuntu.com/
[20:51] * mcphail splutters through his nose
[20:52] * ogra_ hands mcphail a napkin
[20:52] <k1l> studio_: there is a delay on the logging bot. its updated every hour.
[20:52] <mcphail> thanks!
[20:52] <ogra_> :)
[20:53] <studio_> k1l, maybe, but there are still missing answers to some questions ...
[20:53] <popey> No. Just answers you don't like.
[20:53] <k1l> studio_: no. there are no missing answers. there are only answers you dont like.
[20:53] <popey> ^5
[20:53] <k1l> that is a huge difference.
[20:53] <studio_> popey, i am not talking about me ...
[20:54] <popey> wat
[20:54] <studio_> users
[20:54] <popey> which users?
[20:54] <popey> name one
[20:54] <studio_> read offline
[20:54] <k1l> so stop beeing rude just because its not running the way you want it to. you could help making it better, but you just keep wasting time of the devs.
[20:54] <popey> studio_: if you think we could improve documentation for other users, then we'd welcome help on that.
[20:54] <k1l> so if you have a question: ask once, and live with the answer.
[20:56] <studio_> k1l, please read the offline log. sometimes it makes no sense, because answers are missing and pplz say "ok" without explenation ...
[20:56] <popey> studio_: nobody reads those irc logs.
[20:56] <popey> other than strange people who like to stalk
[20:57] <popey> or people who want to go back and find something specific from a channel they were in on a particular day
[20:57] <ogra_> well, google reads them ...
[20:57] <ogra_> so you can look up past answers ...
[20:57] <popey> the poor guy at google who has to sit and index all of irc
[20:57] <ogra_> yeah
[20:57] <popey> i pity them
[20:57] <ogra_> i think it is more than one though
[20:57] <ogra_> more like 3-4
[20:58] <ogra_> google can afford that, they are a rich company
[20:58] <studio_> popey, i read them, because i "thing" i missed something. You store them, to trell pplz their mistake!
[21:00] <k1l> studio_: the logbot logs what is written in here. if there is something missing that might be due to irc network issues but is not intended. but lets focus on ubuntu-touch in here. thanks
[21:00] <studio_> k1l. np
[21:00] <popey> \o/ de-duped my click mirror, disk space usage is down from 140G to 3.2G
[21:01] <mcphail> popey: what did you use to de-dupe?
[21:01] <ogra_> popey, nice, we already have 3.2G of click ?
[21:01] <popey> 3.2 cumulatively
[21:01] <popey> clicks and snaps
[21:01] <popey> includes all past versions of apps
[21:02] <popey> mcphail: used a little python script I found http://cpansearch.perl.org/src/ANDK/Perl-Repository-APC-2.002/eg/trimtrees.pl
[21:02] <popey> works brilliantly
[21:02] <ogra_> you should fix the suffix though
[21:02] <popey> eh?
[21:02] <ogra_> unless it is a polish python script ;)
[21:03] <popey> oh, i said python
[21:03] <popey> i meant perl
[21:03] <ogra_> :D
[21:03] <popey> duh
[21:03] <Tassadar> polish python script, lol
[21:03] * ogra_ got that but couldnt resist teasing you
[21:03] <popey> tlds[0]cur[4]uniq[4_123]fils[171_501]spcused[3_321_707_560]saved[145_691_376_536]
[21:03] <popey> thats all it spat out
[21:03] <popey> converts dupes into hard links
[21:04] <ogra_> ah, like fdupes we use in iimage builds
[21:04] <popey> yeah.
[21:04] <mcphail> popey: looks neat. I'll bookmark that one
[21:04] <k1l> so all the apps are just copy&paste'ed? :)
[21:04] <mcphail> popey: good to get my photos and music directories sorted out
[21:05] <popey> hah
[21:05] <popey> some are :)
[21:05] <popey> http://popey.mooo.com/mirror/clicks/graph_clicks.png
[21:06] <mcphail> bit of a spike when krillin released
[21:06] <k1l> uh nice, i like plots :)
[21:06] <ogra_> will be curious to see if there will be spikes for the next phones
[21:06] * mcphail needs to get to work on some apps
[21:06] <ogra_> +1
[21:07] <popey> there was a drop a few days ago because i removed a bunch of apps :)
[21:07] <ogra_> everyone should work on apps :)
[21:07] <popey> or scopes :)
[21:07] <ogra_> yeah yeah ... or scopes
[21:07] <mcphail> I'm still not loving scopes
[21:07] * ogra_ knows that cwayne_ sits behind him ...
[21:10] <popey> ogra_: my flo is stuck at the google logo :S
[21:10] <popey> any suggestions what i can do?
[21:11] <Tassadar> kill it with fire!
[21:12] <Tassadar> or try to get to bootloader, if that's more your style, hold power until it reboots and then power+volume down
[21:12] <cwayne_> mcphail, any suggestions to make them better?
[21:12] <popey> then re-flash?
[21:13] <Tassadar> probably, assuming you can't get adb while on that google screen
[21:13] <Tassadar> and hope this isn't your case http://www.androidpolice.com/2015/04/19/reports-suggest-2013-nexus-7-units-are-failing-at-an-alarming-rate-not-likely-a-result-of-firmware-updates/ (tl;dr: lots of flos are getting bricked because the emmc just dies due to wear)
[21:14] <popey> i thought that was a nexus 7 2012 thing
[21:14] <popey> oh, 2013
[21:15] <Tassadar> 2012 had just slow emmc because the trim was kinda broken
[21:15] <popey> can't flash it from bootloader.
[21:15] <Tassadar> and, well, also slow in general, but then slower
[21:15] * popey reboots to recovery
[21:15] <popey> yeah
[21:15] <popey> my 2012 is sat on my desk as a second screen
[21:15] <popey> only ever runs irssinotifier and that's it
[21:15] <Tassadar> mine is an youtube machine
[21:15] <Tassadar> *a youtube machine?
[21:15] * popey flashes flo
[21:15] <Tassadar> an looks weird
[21:15] <popey> a
[21:16] <popey> y is a funny "vowel"
[21:16] <Tassadar> okay
[21:16] <popey> especially as the "a" is often pronounced "aye" so "ayootoob" is easier to say than "an yootoob"
[21:17] <popey> anyway
[21:18] <Tassadar> I'm kinda surprised my flo didn't die yet (knocks on the wood), considering how many OSes I install on it
[21:20] <mcphail> cwayne_: I think it would be good to have more visual feedback on what has happened if a scope doesn't update properly. And I'm not sure if a failure in one part of the scope causes failure elsewhere: in the Today scope my calendar appointments don't show if the news/weather doesn't load. I don't understand why that should be the case
[21:22] <mcphail> cwayne_: it is also difficult to swipe between scopes if there are a lot of swipeable panels on the scope
[21:23] <popey> also the date doesn't dynamically update
[21:23] <mcphail> that too :)
[21:23] <popey> https://bugs.launchpad.net/today-scope
[21:23] <popey> bugs welcome ㋛
[21:23] <mcphail> popey: i think these things have already been reported...
[21:24] <cwayne_> mcphail, the vents not loading if weather doesn't hasn't been
[21:24] <cwayne_> first I'm hearing of that specifically
[21:24] <cwayne_> and that certainly should not happen :(
[21:25] <mcphail> cwayne_: mentioned in bug 1448783
[21:25] <cwayne_> oh, look at that
[21:25] * cwayne_ is sprint-tired
[21:26] <mcphail> ha :)
[21:26] * mcphail doesn't like to sound as if he is moaning. These are minor irritations in a great system
[21:26] <ogra_> mandel, http://paste.ubuntu.com/10945289/
[21:27] <ogra_> mandel, rather http://paste.ubuntu.com/10945292/
[21:27] <ogra_> http://paste.ubuntu.com/10945297/
[21:29] <cwayne_> mcphail, it doesn't come off as moaning at all, in fact, I appreciate seeing where we're failing (specifically with scopes) so that we can try and fix them :)
[21:30] <cwayne_> mcphail, are you seeing those bugs right now?
[21:30] <mcphail> cwayne_: I think the "Today" scope is particularly important because it is the "front page" on the phone
[21:30] <mcphail> cwayne_: from time to time I'm seeing them
[21:30] <popey> +1
[21:30] <popey> i woke my phone up and the date was 3 days out
[21:31] <cwayne_> popey, testing out the fix for that today
[21:31] <jcbjoe> popey: dod you have a n4 with ubuntu-touch on it ? and if so do you use it as a daily driver
[21:31] <cwayne_> undocumented stuff ftw
[21:31] <cwayne_> mcphail, next time you see that happen, could you please go into settings, disable the holidays scope, and try a refresh?
[21:32] <mcphail> cwayne_: will do, but a refresh usually cures it anyway
[21:32] <cwayne_> ah
[21:32] <cwayne_> well i suppose that's kind of good..
[21:33] <mcphail> cwayne_: I have been wondering if it loads more consistently if I have opened the calendar app on that boot
[21:33] <cwayne_> mcphail, hm, it *shouldnt* matter
[21:33] <mcphail> cwayne_: but that doesn't seem to be a 100% correlation
[21:34] <mcphail> cwayne_: I sometime pull to refresh a few times with no appointments showing. OPen calendar. Pull to refresh. *Bingo*
[21:34] <mcphail> cwayne_: may just be luck
[21:34] <cwayne_> mcphail, hm, and everything after events is blocked until events is shown?
[21:34] <jcbjoe> or anyone else .. does the n4 get good battery with ubuntu-touch
[21:34] <mcphail> cwayne_: yes
[21:35] <cwayne_> kyleN, ^ btw
[21:35] <mcphail> cwayne_: usually when one bit fails it all fails. The only exception is the sunrise/sunset which can fail independently
[21:36] <cwayne_> i swear we've fixed that bug like 15 times
[21:36] <cwayne_> but it keeps coming back :(
[21:36] <cwayne_> ssweeny, kyleN ^
[21:36] <cwayne_> tl;dr when a child's failing in today, nothing after it's loading
[21:36] <ogra_> jcbjoe, i guess it gets reasonable battery ... surely not as good as the bq phone with its average of 3-4 days though
[21:37] <ssweeny> i thought that was fixed
[21:37] <ogra_> the N4 is our test infrastructure device, but it doesnt get particular performance improvement love etc ...
[21:38] <ogra_> so it will likely be on an android level regarding battery life
[21:38] <ogra_> but not as good as it would be with proper optimization
[21:38] <mcphail> cwayne_: my phone is often used in difficult netwrok conditions. I may be an edge-case for scope loading
[21:41] <cwayne_> mcphail, well in that case we should be handling the edge cases better :)
[21:41] <cwayne_> ssweeny, yeah, i did too
[21:42] <mcphail> cwayne_: :)
[21:49] <pascaltux> te français ?
[21:50] <pascaltux> ubuntu-fr-touch isolé OK?
[21:56] <popey> hmm
[21:56] <popey> reflashed my flo and it's still only booting to the google logo
[21:56] <popey> i think vivid-proposed is broken for flo
[21:59] <ogra_> popey, jhodapp sits next to me and has it working fine
[21:59] <jhodapp> popey, I updated my flo to the latest image this morning
[21:59] <jhodapp> popey, what image #?
[22:01] <popey> i just flashed it with 186 from ubuntu-touch/vivid-proposed
[22:02] * popey needs sleep, will play more in the morning
[22:34] <jhodapp> popey, that explains it, I'm using 185
[22:34] <jhodapp> popey, 186 may in fact be bad
[23:37] <Dragonkeeper> theres a problem with browser on 15.04 when i click on multi selection drop menus the browser force closes
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[10:16] <duflu> Once again out-smarted by my own test case
[10:16] <duflu> And that's a good thing
[10:16] * duflu wanders off
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2015-04-29-#ubuntu-ko
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[00:01] <razGon_MINILA> 안녕하세요?
[00:03] <Work^Seony> 안녕하세요
[00:06] <razGon_MINILA> 오늘 비가 와서 조용하네요
[00:08] <Work^Seony> 봄비가 오나보네요
[00:11] <razGon_MINILA> 예 좀 심한 봄비가 왔어요.
[00:11] <razGon_MINILA> 천둥번개.
[00:11] <razGon_MINILA> 덕분에 야구는 안햇는데..
[00:11] <razGon_MINILA> 지금 날씨가 개었네요.
[00:11] <Work^Seony> 흐... 여기도 한국처럼 가끔 오랫동안 비가 왔음 좋겠어요...
[00:11] <Work^Seony> 비 오는날 집에 침대에서 뒹굴뒹굴하면 참 좋은데...
[00:14] <HolyKnight> ㅎㅇㅇ
[00:16] <Work^Seony> 다음달을 기점으로 재밌는 게임이 너무 많이 나오네요...
[00:16] <Work^Seony> 시간이 점점 부족해질듯..
[00:28] <bluedusk> 은ㄴㅇ
[00:28] <bluedusk> 안녕하세요 (__)
[00:28] <Work^Seony> 안녕하세요
[00:33] <razGon_MINILA> ㅎㅎㅎ
[00:33] <imsu> Work^Seony: 다들 온리 윈도우 ㅋㅋㅋ
[00:34] <bluedusk> imsu, 좋은 회사네요
[00:34] <razGon_MINILA> 저도 윈도우인데요.ㅋ
[00:52] <PotatoGim> 안녕하세요~~
[00:57] <samahui_> 안녕하세요
[01:24] <bluedusk> 아 사무실 책상위에 놔뒀던 만년필이 케이스째 사라졌어요
[01:24] <bluedusk> 짜증나네요 진짜
[01:33] <samahui_> 가끔 회사에서 사놓은 물건일줄 알고 개인꺼 가져다 써버리는 사람들이 있죠
[01:35] <samahui_> 던 단종된다고 하여 사다놓았던 모나미 볼펜 두박스가 없어졌어요 ㅜㅜ
[01:37] <pchero> bluedusk: 전체 메일 쏘세요. 한방에 해결됨. ㅎㅎ
[01:38] <pchero> 전 자야겠음...Zzzz
[01:40] <Work^Seony> 저도 무지 졸립네요..
[01:40] <Work^Seony> pchero, GTA 해보셨어요?
[02:23] <samahui_> 오늘 점심은 뭐 먹을까 라는 궁극의 고민에 빠져봅니다
[02:27] <Work^Seony> 아.... 추어탕 먹고싶어요
[02:27] <Work^Seony> 못먹어본지 한 8년 된거 같네요..
[02:29] <samahui_> 추어탕은 저도 좋은데 같이 먹는 여인네께서 추어탕은 싫다네요
[02:30] <samahui_> 역시 혼자 먹는거 보다 함께 먹는거 정하기가 더 어려워요 ㅜ
[02:30] <Work^Seony> 제 와이프도 싫어해요. 한 번도 안먹어봤지먄...
[02:30] <Work^Seony> 아... 순대국도 먹고싶네요...
[02:30] <samahui_> 추어탕이 두가지 인건 아시죠?
[02:30] <Work^Seony> 네.
[02:30] <Work^Seony> 전 갈은거 좋아해요
[02:30] <samahui_> 강원도쪽은 통 미꾸라지 들어간 추어탕이고 전라도는 갈아놓은거
[02:30] <Work^Seony> 특히 설악추어탕..
[02:30] <samahui_> 네
[02:30] <samahui_> 저도 갈아놓은 추어탕을 좋아라합니다
[02:30] <razGon_MINILA> 강원도 가면 뭐 먹는게 좋아요?
[02:30] <samahui_> 통으로 들어있는건 아무래도 거부감 들더라고요
[02:30] <samahui_> 강원도가면 회를 먹어야죠 ㅎㅎ
[02:30] <samahui_> 산나물과 회
[02:30] <Work^Seony> 감자...? ㅋ
[02:31] <samahui_> 철에 따라서 다른데 지금같은 봄철이면 제철나물을 넣은 밥이 맛나죠
[02:31] <samahui_> 그리고 강원도는 동해와 가까워서 회도 괜찮은거 같고요
[02:33] <razGon_MINILA> 흠... 그렇군요.
[02:33] <razGon_MINILA> 일단은 내일은 최강한화를... 직관하러갑니다. ㅋㅋ
[02:33] <samahui_> 헉!!!
[02:33] <samahui_> 그런 부러운일이
[02:33] <samahui_> 어제는 비땜시 안했던데 오늘은 어떨지 모르겠네요
[02:34] <samahui_> 저도 내일 대전가는데 ... 전 시간이 없어서 직관은 못가요 ㅜㅜ
[02:35] <razGon_MINILA> 오늘 경기 가능할거 같기도 하네요... 축축하지만,
[02:35] <razGon_MINILA> 오늘은 제가 공부모임있어서 거기가고 내일.ㅋ
[02:37] <samahui_> 직관의 즐거움은 포수뒤에서 ㅎㅎ;;
[02:37] <samahui_> 대전구장 포수 뒷자리 가격이 상당하더군요
[02:37] <samahui_> 그래도 앉아서 응원하면서 재미있게 보고 싶습니다
[02:38] <samahui_> 전 TV로 열심히 응원하고 있겠습니다
[02:39] <razGon_MINILA> 포수 뒷자리 갈거 같습니다. 바로 앞은 아니고 뒤에서 있는자리.
[02:40] <samahui_> 좋으시겠어요 그저 부러울따름입니다
[02:41] <razGon_MINILA> 뭐 기아 홈에서 하는 거라. ㅋㅋㅋ
[02:41] <razGon_MINILA> 8회에 최강한화 육성으로.ㅋㅋ
[02:42] <samahui_> 아~ 이번주 기아랑 하는군요
[02:42] <samahui_> ㅎㅎ 그럼 원정팀 응원석으로 가셔야죠
[02:42] <samahui_> 맘놓고 응원도하고 치어리더님들도 보고 그러죠
[02:43] <razGon_MINILA> ㅎㅎㅎ 그러구 싶기는 한데.. 같이 가시는 형님들과 같이.ㅋ
[02:46] <samahui_> sk상대로도 3연승 했으니 이번에도 3연승으로 갔으면 좋겠네요
[02:48] <razGon_MINILA> ㅎㅎㅎ 2연승밖에 안됩니다.
[02:48] <razGon_MINILA> 어제 우천취소라...
[02:49] <samahui_> 아! 그렇네요 ㅎㅎ;;
[02:49] <samahui_> 아무튼 성큰 감독오고 한화는 즐거운 야구를 하는거 같아 좋습니다
[02:51] <razGon_MINILA> 지난주 토요일 경기는 정말 감동이였습니다!
[02:51] <samahui_> 너무 재미있었죠 ㅎㅎ
[02:51] <samahui_> 한화 경기는 다 재미있더라고요. 오죽하면 마리한화라 부르겠습니까 ㅎㅎ
[02:51] <samahui_> 매경기가 한국시리즈
[02:52] <razGon_MINILA> ㅋㅋㅋ
[02:52] <razGon_MINILA> 최강한화 육성응원은 감동입니다.
[02:52] <samahui_> 저도 가서 해보고 싶어요 ㅎㅎ
[02:53] <samahui_> 오늘 점심은 제육덮밥으로...
[02:53] <razGon_MINILA> 최강한화 이말이 실은 꼴지일떄 나온 응원인데. 이게 처음에 들을떈 뭔가 햇는데.... 점점 들으니 감동이 되더군요.
[02:54] <razGon_MINILA> 8회의 육성응원은 정말...
[02:54] <razGon_MINILA> 내일 가서 해볼려구요.ㅋㅋ
[02:54] <samahui_> 8회 한화공격때 울려퍼지는 모습 보기 좋쵸
[02:54] <samahui_> 열심히 화이팅~ 하세요
[02:54] <samahui_> 전 점심 먹고 오겠습니다
[02:54] <razGon_MINILA> 어느 구단 보다 멋지더군요.
[02:54] <razGon_MINILA> 옙
[02:54] <razGon_MINILA> 맛점요!
[02:54] <samahui_> 즐거운 점심시간들 되세요~
[02:54] <samahui_> 넵
[03:22] <HolyKnight> http://jjalbang.kr/ab054449/vx9ou9mpi.jpg
[03:23] <HolyKnight> http://jjalbang.kr/asurahi/vx6ct82nj.jpg
[04:29] <samahui_TPC> 살다살다 가장 매운 제육을 먹고 왔습니다 ... 오늘 요리에 들어간 고추가 문제더군요
[04:29] <samahui_TPC> 너무 매워서 먹다가 사래걸렸네요 ㅎㅎ ;;
[06:04] <jun__> 안녕하세요~ 한창 비가오는데 무지 더운 수요일 오후입니다~ ㅎ
[06:22] <HolyKnight> http://m.insight.co.kr/view.php?ArtNo=19768
[06:36] <jun__> 이젠 별의 별곳에서 말도안되는 행동을 하네요;;;
[06:37] <jun__> 여성소방대원 뽑는데 왜 가슴둘레를;;;
[07:53] <jun__> 오늘은 다들 바쁘시나보네요;;;
[09:01] <hedy> 안녕하세요.
[09:03] <jun__> 안녕하셍요~
[10:44] <HolyKnight> ㅎㅇㅇ
[10:48] <HolyKnight> @hyekkim: 프로그래머 머리 터지게 하는 방법
[10:48] <HolyKnight> 작업중인 코드를 몰래 열어 세미콜론(;) 하나를 그리스어 물음표(;)로 바꾼다
[10:52] <pchero_work> 헐.....
[11:07] <samahui_TPC> 비도 오고 하더니 저녁에는 선선하니 좋군요
[11:08] <samahui_TPC> 져녁에도 일하시는 분들은 모두 힘내시고~ 쉬시는 분들은 편안한 밤 보내세요
[18:33] <Work^Seony> 안녕하세요
[23:36] <AutoWiZ_znc> 안녕하세요
[23:36] <AutoWiZ_znc> 내일도 출근해야하는 오즈 입니다 ㅠㅠ
[23:40] <Work^Seony> 내일은 무슨 날이에요?
[23:42] <AutoWiZ_znc> 노동절이라고 많은 사람들이 쉬는 날이지요 ... 한국에서는...
[23:42] <AutoWiZ_znc> 저는 한국에 사는게 아니었나봐요 ㅋㅋㅋ
[23:43] <Work^Seony> 아 노동절...
[23:43] <HolyKnight> 그거아심?
[23:43] <HolyKnight> 리눅스용 vs나온대유
[23:43] <HolyKnight> ㄷㄷ
[23:54] <AutoWiZ_znc> visual studio .. 홀리나이트님께서는 특별한 채널이라던가 뭘 가지고 계시는건가요? 뉴스를 가장먼저 접하시는분 같습니다.
[23:55] <HolyKnight> ㄷㄷ
[23:56] <HolyKnight> 별거없는것가타유.
[23:57] <HolyKnight> 무료배포네유.
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ubuntu-chat
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2024-05-13T22:11:09.548675
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2015-04-29-#ubuntu-release
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[11:07] <Mirv> ^ please remove location-service, we botched up once again since there's no way to know whether what the spreadsheet claims is correct or not...
[11:08] <Mirv> so my previous way of always reconfiguring before publishing seems still the only valid way to do it
[15:00] <arges> is launchpad having a bad time right now?
[15:01] <cjwatson> What problems are you seeing?
[15:01] <cjwatson> The 5xx graph is having a bit of a spike.
[15:01] <cjwatson> Though not yet an outrageous one.
[15:02] <arges> cjwatson: just sru-reviewed ubiquity and it timed out before adding the comment
[15:02] <arges> now it seems like i can edit bugs again. so probably just a spike
[15:02] <cjwatson> Did you get an OOPS ID?
[15:02] <arges> x-lazr-oopsid: OOPS-f1720f0a995ee26ceb8d78a6f119d38f
[15:03] <cjwatson> 8.9 seconds trying to update bug heat.
[15:04] <cjwatson> wgrant: ^- is that just horrible contention?
[15:05] <wgrant> It's the thing.
[15:05] <cjwatson> Though, https://bugs.launchpad.net/launchpad/+bug/931987
[15:06] <wgrant> The thing that may or may not be the temp table thing.
[15:15] <cjwatson> Mirv: done (location-service)
[16:56] <whatsw> Hi, I haven't been able to find anything online about Ubuntu 15.10... what's it called?
[16:57] <teward> whatsw: we don't know yet.
[16:58] <teward> whatsw: consider 15.04 only recently released, W-series probably isn't even 'open for development' yet
[16:58] <teward> s/we don't know yet/I don't think anyone publicly knows yet/
[17:00] <whatsw> that seems very weird
[17:00] <cjwatson> Yes, it is very weird.
[17:00] * teward shrugs
[17:00] <teward> it's the last thing on my list of concerns - i have to rebuild my schroots for precise through vivid anyways xD
[17:01] <teward> (because there's always bug triage to do for every release xD)
[17:01] <teward> (and build testing of fixes :P)
[18:13] <tjaalton> infinity: so, llvm-3.6 for trusty, it's in new. mesa can be built after that
[18:21] <davmor2> cjwatson: is a weird wallaby?
[18:23] <davmor2> s/a/it
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ubuntu-chat
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2024-05-13T22:11:09.553503
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2015-04-29-#ubuntu-motu
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[02:20] <ScottK> Rhonda: Unknown because we don't know.
[06:29] <dholbach> good morning
[16:37] <Rhonda> Whom to poke about blocking wesnoth-1.13? It's the upcoming devel release, it's not packaged in Debian yet, but I want the sync block in place right ahead. :)
[16:38] <Rhonda> ScottK, are you on that team or rather do you know whom I can pester with that request? :)
[16:42] <tumbleweed> Rhonda: why doesn't it go into experimental, then?
[16:44] <Rhonda> For better exposure to more people testing it. It can be side-by-side installed with other versions.
[16:44] <tumbleweed> being in experimental doesn't mean it can't be installed side-by-side
[16:44] <tumbleweed> but yes, users would have to enable experimental
[18:01] <teward> micahg: ping
[18:40] <sil2100> o/
[19:40] <micahg> teward: pong
[19:40] <teward> micahg: any update on the swig backport?
[19:40] <teward> or is it just sitting idly in the queue
[19:41] <micahg> teward: I have it on my list, just haven't gotten around to processing yet
[19:41] <teward> ok
[21:27] <ScottK> Rhonda: For better or worse, Mark himself picks the name so we're in a wait state in the meantime.
[21:44] <Laney> ScottK: I think she meant the sync blacklist with that comment addressed to you..?
[21:45] <ScottK> Oh
[21:48] <tumbleweed> I suppose we could also hint against migration. But that's not really the point of -proposed
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ubuntu-chat
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2024-05-13T22:11:09.556260
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2015-04-29-#lubuntu
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[16:29] <Manj-811-Xfce2> hi veverybody i need som ehelp
[16:30] <Manj-811-Xfce2> du francais ici ?
[16:30] <Manj-811-Xfce2> lubuntu sur un imac ppc !
[16:40] <Manj-811-Xfce2> anybody to help me ?
[16:40] <ianorlin> Manj-811-Xfce2: I don't speak french and most in this channel don't
[16:41] <ianorlin> !fr
[16:41] <ianorlin> but they might not have that much expierence with lubuntu
[16:41] <Manj-811-Xfce2> lol
[16:41] <Manj-811-Xfce2> no problem
[16:41] <Manj-811-Xfce2> i have a black screen
[16:41] <Manj-811-Xfce2> on my imac
[16:41] <ianorlin> after install on boot of the medium when?
[16:41] <Manj-811-Xfce2> could u help me ?
[16:42] <Manj-811-Xfce2> yes
[16:42] <Manj-811-Xfce2> i instal lunbuntu
[16:42] <Manj-811-Xfce2> all is ok
[16:42] <Manj-811-Xfce2> and after restart the imac
[16:42] <Manj-811-Xfce2> black screen
[16:42] <ianorlin> do you know what kind of graphics?
[16:42] <Manj-811-Xfce2> not a valid elf image
[16:42] <Manj-811-Xfce2> graphics ?
[16:43] <Manj-811-Xfce2> yellow screen when i install
[16:43] <Manj-811-Xfce2> all is ok choose all hard drive
[16:43] <Manj-811-Xfce2> and after nothing
[16:43] <ianorlin> what happens if you press control alt f1 at the black screen
[16:43] <ianorlin> that will switch to a tty
[16:44] <Manj-811-Xfce2> afetr restarting ?
[16:44] <ianorlin> yes
[16:44] <Manj-811-Xfce2> after restarting ?
[16:44] <Manj-811-Xfce2> ok i will restart now
[16:44] <Manj-811-Xfce2> restart
[16:45] <Manj-811-Xfce2> nothing
[16:45] <Manj-811-Xfce2> a message press I for gnu linux or c to boot cd
[16:46] <Manj-811-Xfce2> and few seconds after lines and black screen
[16:46] <Manj-811-Xfce2> and a screen with grey lines and blaxk
[16:46] <Manj-811-Xfce2> black
[16:46] <ianorlin> hmm what happens if you hold down shift during boot ?
[16:46] <Manj-811-Xfce2> it's a lbuntu version 14.04
[16:47] <Manj-811-Xfce2> hold down ???
[16:47] <ianorlin> meaning when you turn it on press shift and keep it going
[16:47] <Manj-811-Xfce2> shift on mac what is it ?
[16:48] <ianorlin> it is the key to make capital letters
[16:48] <Manj-811-Xfce2> ok
[16:48] <Manj-811-Xfce2> i restart
[16:48] <Manj-811-Xfce2> i have a message
[16:48] <ianorlin> what is it?
[16:49] <Manj-811-Xfce2> yaboot
[16:49] <Manj-811-Xfce2> and choose cd or
[16:49] <Manj-811-Xfce2> i
[16:49] <Manj-811-Xfce2> and restart alone
[16:49] <Manj-811-Xfce2> and again screen grey lines
[16:49] <Manj-811-Xfce2> and -
[16:49] <ianorlin> wxl you know anything about this you know more about ppc than I do
[16:50] <Manj-811-Xfce2> so any solution ?
[16:50] <Manj-811-Xfce2> i try with lubuntu old version 12.04
[16:50] <Manj-811-Xfce2> anything
[16:51] <Manj-811-Xfce2> same problem and i can use the live cd
[16:54] <Manj-811-Xfce2> ok thx
[17:25] <wxl> did i hear ppc issues?
[19:46] <ianorlin> wxl the user left unfotanetly it was manj-811-xfce2
[19:48] <genii> I find it strangely satisfying that people are still running *buntu on PPC
[19:52] <wxl> !ppc
[19:52] <wxl> that pretty much covers every issue ianorlin :)
[19:52] <wxl> every general issue
[23:20] <cheche> have anyone noitce "going to the back of dialog-windows" problem on lubuntu? or this is a LXDE desktop issue?
[23:20] <cheche> I notice on a ERP application.
[23:20] <ianorlin> going to the back of dialog windows?
[23:20] <cheche> ianorlin: yes on an ERP app. If I click on the print button, the printer dialog goes to the back
[23:21] <ianorlin> which ERP app
[23:21] <cheche> so you must move the previous windows to access the printer dialog.
[23:21] <cheche> http://www.eneboo.org/site/
[23:21] <ianorlin> cheche: is there a icon on the taskbar
[23:21] <cheche> ianorlin: yes
[23:21] <ianorlin> but if you click on it still on back
[23:22] <ianorlin> do you have the windows on top set to stay always on top?
[23:22] <cheche> ianorlin: yes, I must move
[23:23] <ianorlin> if you press alt space on the windows on top are they set to always show to top
[23:24] <cheche> ianorlin: no it say, normal
[23:24] <ianorlin> hmm what happens if you switch with alt tab
[23:24] <cheche> (I will try to record a video )
[23:25] <cheche> If I click alt + tab the only icon is the "preview" before the printer dialog
[23:25] <ianorlin> I am not sure about this program
[23:26] <cheche> ianorlin: I found this topic. http://yabb.jriver.com/interact/index.php?topic=95435.0
[23:26] <cheche> diferent application, but that user complains about "going to the back of dialog-windows"
[23:27] <cheche> there is another tread but with TUXPaint https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/lubuntu-users/2014-November/008904.html
[23:28] <cheche> Diferent apps. Same behaviour. so I want it to know if it was something more general.
[23:28] <cheche> I use the ERP aplication on Ubuntu, but this problem does not show up.
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ubuntu-chat
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2015-04-29-#ubuntu-pl
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[19:28] <jacekowski> widzieli ze pieklo zamarzlo
[19:29] <jacekowski> wyszedl soft od MS w pelni na linuxa
[19:32] <TheNumb> wyszedł
[19:32] <TheNumb> ale gówniany
[19:33] <BlessJah> http://www.reddit.com/r/linux/comments/34ahd5/microsoft_releases_a_code_editor_that_runs/cqsu8xg
[19:34] <BlessJah> interneta donosza ze to atom
[19:45] <TheNumb> ee, też node-webkit po prostu
[20:01] <ncrs> Cześć mam mały problem :) jak wymusić w lxde kursor myszy, nawet gdy mysz nie jest podłączona do kompa?
[20:02] <TheNumb> co?
[20:02] <TheNumb> :D
[20:03] <ncrs> Hehe
[20:03] <TheNumb> ncrs: xdotool sobie zobacz
[20:03] <TheNumb> nie wiem czy o to ci chodzi ;]
[20:03] <ncrs> Już patrzę
[20:15] <ncrs> To nie do końca to o co mi chodzi :)
[20:15] <ncrs> Może opiszę bardziej problem :)
[20:16] <ncrs> Mam kompa przy którym nie ma myszy, ani klawiatury
[20:16] <ncrs> Odpalam sobie Server i Clienta na telefonie.
[20:17] <ncrs> Apka pozwala na sterowanie myszką oraz spożywanie z klawiatury androida :)
[20:17] <ncrs> Ogólnie wszystko działa
[20:18] <ncrs> Jedyny problem to ze nie widać kursora myszki
[20:18] <ncrs> Mogę klikać tylko nie widzę na co :)
[20:18] <ncrs> System to 14.04, z lxde
[20:19] <ncrs> Uh:)
[20:19] <Ashiren> mhm
[20:20] <Ashiren> no ale jak klikasz palcem po ekranie to tez nie widac kursora ;d
[20:21] <ncrs> Nie rozumiem :) telefon ma być takim touch padem
[20:22] <ncrs> Na touch padzie tez nie ma kursora :)
[20:22] <Ashiren> ahh
[20:23] <Ashiren> w sumie co to za cudo ze wogole kursora nie widac, nawet jak nie ma myszki to powinien byc :x
[20:25] <ncrs> No to się zaczyna, sprzęt to odroid c1, Linux pod arm'a
[20:25] <ncrs> A ze nie widać.... Eh no nie widać
[20:26] <ncrs> Jak podłączę mysz fizyczna, to kursor się pojawia. I potem nawet z telefonu mogę sterować i jest ok
[20:26] <ncrs> Po wycięciu :)
[20:27] <TheNumb> ncrs: wiń dystrybutora
[20:27] <TheNumb> pewnie nie zrobili tego ubuntu po bożemu i nie działa.
[20:27] <TheNumb> ;]
[20:27] <ncrs> Ale tam nie ma być fizycznej myszki wiec muszę wymusić pojawienie się kursora w inny sposób :)
[20:27] <TheNumb> no trudno :P
[20:29] <ncrs> Hehe obwinić wszystkich do okoła to najłatwiejsza droga, która nie przynosi rozwiązania problemu :)
[20:29] <TheNumb> ncrs: w innych dystrybucjach występuje ten problem
[20:29] <TheNumb> ?
[20:30] <ncrs> Nie jestem teraz w stanie sprawdzić :(
[20:30] <TheNumb> peszek
[20:30] <TheNumb> pytałeś na jakimś kanale supportu odroida?
[20:30] <TheNumb> może ktoś miał ten sam problem
[20:34] <ncrs> Wydaje mi się że to kwestia lxde, która coś pointer, jeżeli mysz nie została wykryta przez system :)
[20:34] <ncrs> Która chowa *
[20:34] <TheNumb> wątpię
[20:35] <TheNumb> zobacz czy openbox tak nie robi
[23:50] <m477> łółółółół
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ubuntu-chat
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2024-05-13T22:11:09.585040
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2015-04-29-#ubuntu-kernel
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[06:41] <taihsiang> infinity, hi, I am wondering that there is lucid proposed kernel for SRU testing. IIRC, there is no proposed lucid this cycle(10-Apr through 02-May)?
[06:42] <taihsiang> infinity, I am ok to test it on the certification part. just want to confirm if anything I am missing or misunderstand, thanks.
[07:10] <doug16k> Hi. I get many dmesg assert spams at /build/buildd/linux-3.19.0/drivers/gpu/drm/i915/intel_runtime_pm.c:680 intel_display_power_put+0x103/0x170 [i915]()
[07:10] <doug16k> the last update fixed my i915 lockup (great!) but it caused my battery life to get very short
[07:11] <doug16k> there is a warning that dumps to dmesg when it is about to decrement a power well that has a count of zero
[07:11] <doug16k> it messes up those counts
[07:16] <doug16k> 3.19.0-15-generic btw
[07:20] <apw> doug16k, do file a bug for us to track that, that helps us know what h/w you have etc
[07:20] <apw> "ubuntu-bug linux"
[07:32] <doug16k> apw, thanks! https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/1449893
[07:34] <doug16k> I had a peek at that code - looks like the assertion is warning that it is about to decrement a use count that is zero - it has messed up the refcounts
[07:35] <apw> thanks, will see if someone can have a poke
[13:16] <Deathcrow> I am trying to rebuild a kernel module for the ubuntu stock kernel, but when I try to insmod it I get "Invalid module format". I don't want to boot into an entirely new kernel...
[13:17] <Deathcrow> I only found guides explaining how to replace the whole kernel with a custom
[13:18] <Deathcrow> I assume it's some versioning thing that's stopping me from doing it? But surely it must be possible to modfiy a kernel module and recompile it for the stock kernel?
[13:24] <Deathcrow> What I did: Downloaded the linux source with 'apt-get install linux-source', extracted the tarball, modified some code and compiled with 'make modules'
[13:30] <Deathcrow> Anyone?
[13:45] <apw> Deathcrow, in theory yes, vresioning does need to match, as does the compiler (i believe). i think make modules will definatly make the wrong version name, because of the way we use the abi number in our packaging
[13:46] <apw> Deathcrow, you could either build the whole kernel using the debian recipe, and extract the .ko and try that, or you might look at how we abuse the kernels versioning and abuse it compatibly in your make modules incantation
[13:46] <Deathcrow> apw: I figured it out!
[13:46] <Deathcrow> "make -C /usr/src/linux-headers-3.13.0-48-generic M=`pwd` modules" works
[13:47] <apw> heh, treating it as an out of tree module set, and building it against the installed kernel ... nice
[13:47] <ohsix> $() is your pal
[13:47] <Deathcrow> what's $() ?!
[13:47] <apw> its another `` form
[13:47] <ohsix> `` but sane :]
[13:47] <Deathcrow> ah yeah i know
[13:48] <Deathcrow> thanks
[13:48] <Deathcrow> I'm heading out of here!
[13:48] <Deathcrow> thanks for trying to help apw!
[13:48] <Deathcrow> bye
[13:48] <apw> Deathcrow, np
[14:08] <zequence> apw, infinity and others: Since Ubuntu Studio Precise is going EOL now, I discussed with infinity about the possibility of dropping support linux-lowlatency.
[14:09] <zequence> And, since not other flavors are affected directly by this, and probably not many use that kernel anymore, I felt like this would be a good time to end maintenance.
[14:10] <zequence> I would like to thank everyone for helping me for the past couple of years, or how long its been.
[14:11] <zequence> It was a big improvement for Ubuntu Studio to get linux-lowlatency into the repos.
[14:12] <zequence> I will continue to keep an eye on the current linux-lowlatency kernels, so I'm not disappearing or anything.
[15:04] <apw> zequence, you've done a nice job looking after that ... thank you
[16:31] <leitao> ogasawara, hi there. Both CAPI bugs you just got are possible a backport for 15.10 kernel.
[16:35] <ogasawara> leitao: yep, thanks. Mikey sent us an email as a heads up.
[16:35] <leitao> ogasawara, good
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ubuntu-chat
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2024-05-13T22:11:09.590321
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2015-04-29-#lubuntu-devel
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[00:38] <bluesabre> rafaellaguna: In case the question is still out there, I'm the xubuntu technical lead
[00:39] <bluesabre> I hopped on this channel to listen for bugs common to our projects
[18:34] <gsilva> hello all
[18:58] <gsilva> wxl, does this mean our meeting has been approved? http://summit.ubuntu.com/uos-1505/meeting/22484/community-1505-planning-session/
[19:52] <wxl> yes gsilva !
[19:53] <gsilva> Great :D
[20:00] <gsilva> What's next, wxl ? Should we invite all TLs from the mailing list and later invite the users from the users mailing list?
[20:00] <wxl> gsilva: yep
[20:01] <wxl> gsilva: find the blueprint, too (shoudl be linked)
[20:55] <gsilva> okay, done for the TLs. Soon I'll take care of the other part of the task
[22:33] <gsilva> wxl, you around?
[22:34] <gsilva> or someone comfortable with bazaar
[22:54] <ianorlin> I might be why gsilva ?
[22:55] <gsilva> ianorlin, in this section of LP (https://code.launchpad.net/lubuntu-manual) I have a branch lp:lubuntu-manual
[22:55] <gsilva> and that huge load of stuff to push the code
[22:56] <gsilva> how can I fix that to be equal - branch lp:lubuntu-manual and push lp:lubuntu-manual?
[23:02] <ianorlin> your local branch ah I haven't figured that out either
[23:02] <ianorlin> I think it is bzr merge
[23:12] <wxl> gsilva: what up?
[23:12] <gsilva> wxl ^
[23:13] <wxl> looking
[23:13] <wxl> um hold on
[23:15] <wxl> gsilva: give me the output of `bzr info`
[23:16] <gsilva> 1 sec
[23:33] <gsilva> apologies
[23:33] <gsilva> An old friend was provoking me to exchange some tracks
[23:33] <gsilva> damn, good ol'days
[23:36] <gsilva> wxl, here you go: http://i57.tinypic.com/11il7pi.jpg
[23:39] <wxl> gsilva: i see nothing
[23:39] <wxl> sends me to http://tinypic.com/view.php?pic=11il7pi&s=8
[23:39] <gsilva> and now? http://i57.tinypic.com/11il7pi.jpg
[23:39] <gsilva> w8
[23:39] <gsilva> http://tinypic.com/r/11il7pi/8
[23:40] <gsilva> I think the last one works
[23:45] <wxl> "think"
[23:45] <wxl> aaaaaaaaaaaand it doesn't
[23:45] <wxl> imgur
[23:46] <wxl> or pastebin
[23:46] <wxl> !pastebin | gsilva
[23:46] <gsilva> http://imgur.com/qzEOKYl
[23:48] <wxl> that looks like how it should
[23:48] <wxl> so maybe i don't understand the problem
[23:49] <gsilva> The problem is with LP
[23:49] <gsilva> (https://code.launchpad.net/lubuntu-manual)
[23:49] <gsilva> you have branch lp:lubuntu-manual
[23:49] <gsilva> and then push lp:gustavo...
[23:49] <gsilva> And I don't want that
[23:50] <gsilva> It wasn't like that before but now it is again for some reason :o
[23:50] <wxl> what?
[23:50] <wxl> hold on and let me log in
[23:50] <gsilva> If you go to (https://code.launchpad.net/lubuntu-manual) you have push lp:gustavo bla bla bla
[23:50] <gsilva> if you click the code, you have push lp:lubuntu-manual, as it should
[23:51] <gsilva> Here: http://prntscr.com/6zqilb
[23:51] <gsilva> Clicking the code repo below
[23:51] <wxl> well actually i see push lp:wxl…
[23:51] <wxl> so it might not be so strange
[23:51] <gsilva> http://prntscr.com/6zqiow
[23:51] <gsilva> OHH
[23:51] <gsilva> Maybe that's in case you want to fork the repo?
[23:51] <wxl> perhaps
[23:51] <gsilva> You branch the latest one and then push a fork?
[23:52] <wxl> the ACTUAL branch is here and it looks right https://code.launchpad.net/~lubuntu-wiki-docs/lubuntu-manual/trunk
[23:52] <gsilva> yes, that's correct
[23:52] <gsilva> okay, nevermind. I thought it was because of anything poorly configured
[23:53] <wxl> cuz honestly, the instructions on the lubuntu-manual page that says to grab lp:lubuntu-manual pulls from the trunk of lubuntu-manual owned by lubuntu-wiki-docs, i.e. https://code.launchpad.net/~lubuntu-wiki-docs/lubuntu-manual/trunk
[23:53] <gsilva> yeap
[23:54] <gsilva> Nevermind, it's a feature I never worked with before, thus my doubts
[23:54] <wxl> np, i understand
[23:54] <gsilva> But yea, now that I am thinking of it, if you push to wxl later you'll create another repo
[23:54] <gsilva> that's the way to fork a repo probably
[23:55] <wxl> well just like github
[23:55] <wxl> the way to contribute to a repo that works for everyone regardless of there access to a repo is:
[23:55] <gsilva> May be, yeah. Github is simpler to push stuff
[23:55] <wxl> 1. branch the code
[23:55] <wxl> 2. make changes
[23:56] <wxl> 3. push the code to your repo
[23:56] <wxl> 4. request a review
[23:56] <wxl> 5. upon successful review, code is merged from your repo to the main repo
[23:57] <wxl> in github, it's actually very simple:
[23:57] <wxl> 1. fork the code
[23:57] <wxl> 2. make changes
[23:57] <wxl> 3. push the code to your fork
[23:57] <wxl> 4. issue a pull request
[23:57] <wxl> 5. upon approved request, code is merged from your fork to the main repo
[23:57] <wxl> so it's actually not any easier ;)
[23:58] <gsilva> I meant easier to push things
[23:58] <gsilva> because you don't need to specify the location, as long as you are within the repo you want to work with
[23:58] <wxl> not true actually
[23:58] <gsilva> Like, you branch, do changes and git push automatically sends it to the origin where you branched it first
[23:58] <gsilva> unless, ofc, you want a specific location
[23:59] <wxl> on the other hand you NEED to host a separate codebase online with github
[23:59] <wxl> you do not need to do that with lp
[23:59] <gsilva> true
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ubuntu-chat
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2024-05-13T22:11:09.606505
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"bluesabre",
"gsilva",
"ianorlin",
"wxl"
],
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"channel": "#lubuntu-devel"
}
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2015-04-29-#ubuntu+1
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[08:12] <lordievader> Good morning.
[09:30] <tijnix> morning
[09:36] <lordievader> o/
[13:01] <BluesKaj> Howdy folks
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ubuntu-chat
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2024-05-13T22:11:09.608080
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"license": "Public Domain",
"authors": [
"BluesKaj",
"lordievader",
"tijnix"
],
"url": "https://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2015/04/29/%23ubuntu%2B1.txt",
"channel": "#ubuntu+1"
}
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2015-04-29-#ubuntukylin-devel
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[06:36] <jackyu> ypwong, hi, 今天下午的主要agenda是？
[06:37] <ypwong> jackyu, 发布活动
[06:37] <ypwong> jackyu, 15.04 一些问题？
[06:37] <ypwong> 像快盘
[06:38] <jackyu> OK
[06:38] <jackyu> 快盘已解决，2.0.0.5
[06:39] <jackyu> 上午传上去了，正在同步UK仓库
[06:39] <jackyu> https://launchpad.net/~ubuntukylin-council/+archive/ubuntu/ubuntukylin-ppa/+packages
[06:50] <ypwong> jackyu, 还有别的已知问题吗
[06:51] <jackyu> 输入法
[07:04] <ypwong> FJKong, ping
[07:25] <ypwong> jackyu, http://developer.ubuntu.com/en/snappy
[07:26] <ypwong> nudtrobert, http://developer.ubuntu.com/en/snappy
[07:49] <ypwong> jackyu, 能不能找到 ubuntu kylin 的用戶在天津的 release party 讲讲？
[08:17] <jackyu> ypwong, 我们争取。
[08:17] <ypwong> jackyu, 好的呢 :)
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ubuntu-chat
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2024-05-13T22:11:09.613518
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"authors": [
"jackyu",
"ypwong"
],
"url": "https://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2015/04/29/%23ubuntukylin-devel.txt",
"channel": "#ubuntukylin-devel"
}
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2015-04-29-#ubuntu-irc
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[02:15] <Unit193> !info moreutils
[02:15] <Unit193> Meh, still utopic.
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ubuntu-chat
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2024-05-13T22:11:09.614586
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"license": "Public Domain",
"authors": [
"Unit193"
],
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"channel": "#ubuntu-irc"
}
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2015-04-29-#maas
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[06:31] <mup> Bug #1449862 was opened: Can't build package <MAAS:Triaged> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1449862>
[09:22] <mup> Bug #1443986 changed: crochet._eventloop.TimeoutError: <MAAS:New> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1443986>
[16:44] <mup> Bug #1450115 was opened: django.db.utils.OperationalError raised when instantiating MAASAndNetworkForm <MAAS:Triaged by mpontillo> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1450115>
[22:27] <lesnet> Is it possible to take a snapshot of a deployed image (after changes made on the deployed node file system), and then re-deploy that as an image?
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ubuntu-chat
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2024-05-13T22:11:09.616089
| 2015-04-29T00:00:00 |
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"authors": [
"lesnet",
"mup"
],
"url": "https://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2015/04/29/%23maas.txt",
"channel": "#maas"
}
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2015-04-29-#ubuntu-unity
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[09:14] <tsdgeos> mzanetti: any idea what this is? https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/unity8/+bug/1329141
[09:14] <tsdgeos> it's still New on our side
[09:14] <tsdgeos> and marked as lt-blocker
[09:15] <mzanetti> looking
[12:38] <dandrader> mzanetti, do you know what's Qt's definition of "physical pixel" and "device-independend pixel"?
[12:39] <mzanetti> dandrader, not sure I get the question
[12:39] <mzanetti> device-independent pixel = physical pixel * QT_DEVICE_PIXEL_RATIO
[12:40] <dandrader> mzanetti, the actual pixels in a bitmap hold by a QImage, are they physical pixels or device-independent pixels?
[12:40] <mzanetti> device-independent. however, if you don't export QT_DEVICE_PIXEL_RATIO it'll be the same
[12:40] <mzanetti> on Mir we'll also use GRID_UNIT_PX to modify the value
[12:41] <greyback> dandrader: you've seen http://doc.qt.io/qt-5/highdpi.html ?
[12:41] <dandrader> mzanetti, so it doesn't match this definition: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Device_independent_pixel
[12:41] <dandrader> greyback, no
[12:41] <greyback> dandrader: no it doesn't, Qt's interpretation doesn't relate to any physical measurement
[12:42] <greyback> dandrader: it's really just a scaling factor for the UI
[12:42] <mzanetti> well, the distribution/device manufacturer needs to relate it to a physical measurement by exporting the correct QT_DEVICE_PIXEL_RATIO var
[12:42] <mzanetti> which are aren't :D
[12:43] <greyback> exactly
[12:43] <mzanetti> given that the physical measurement differs quite a lot between our devices
[12:43] <greyback> we're not guaranteeing that 1GU is 0.5cm or anything like that
[12:43] <mzanetti> I think we wanted to... but then we decided to change it to be display width / 40
[12:43] <dandrader> "3840x2160 pixels, resulting in a logical resolution of 192 DPI, whereas older monitors have around 1920x1080 pixels at 96 DPI." <- how can it tell de DPI without know how big (in mm) the display is?
[12:44] <dandrader> maybe I should check the definition of "logical resolution" ....
[12:44] <mzanetti> you can't but not sure if you even should
[12:45] <greyback> dandrader: don't get too bogged down in the terminology, I think it's all a bit messy/inconsistent. We're not reviewing Qt's decision here
[12:46] <mzanetti> dandrader, when it comes to unity, you should probably just use grid units and that's it
[13:06] <dandrader> mzanetti, didn't Saviq come up with a solution for this "can't merge new features while vivid is frozen" issue?
[13:06] <Saviq> dandrader, we did, and then they froze the solution, too ;)
[13:06] <dandrader> :D
[13:07] <mzanetti> dandrader, I added a branch that "fixes" the dialer
[13:07] <dandrader> mzanetti, I saw that and even filled in its description
[13:08] <mzanetti> right... had to run to a meeting
[13:31] <seb128> does anyone know what component/sourcecode has the "message" button from the messaging menu?
[13:32] <seb128> unping
[13:32] <seb128> just found it
[13:54] <dandrader> greyback, how do you test the DPR stuff?
[13:54] <greyback> dandrader: for the qtubuntu stuff, I use mir_proving_server
[13:56] <greyback> I usually try a simple enough qml file
[13:56] <greyback> and maybe a qt demo or two
[13:57] <greyback> note that QT_DEVICE_PIXEL_RATIO also works on X11, so you can try those same demos on your desktop and compare
[15:24] <dandrader> greyback, who uses this DBus window stack from qtmir?
[15:24] <tsdgeos> hud did
[15:24] <tsdgeos> i guess noone does now
[15:25] <greyback> dandrader: hud isn't dead, this it still available
[15:25] <tsdgeos> it's a long time zombie :D
[15:25] <dandrader> greyback, what do you mean by "available"? I can get it on the phone?
[15:25] <tsdgeos> but i guess we should bring it back for the desktop
[15:25] <tsdgeos> at lesat
[15:27] <greyback> dandrader: it used to be still running (sdk apps used to need it for something), but I don't see it there any more. libhud2 is being installed still.
[15:27] <dandrader> greyback, it seems to belong to unity8, not qtmir, what do you think?
[15:28] <greyback> dandrader: probably
[15:28] <greyback> dandrader: depends on how we want the desktop to work. Would you like to export a dbus api to allow third party apps to manipulate windows? I'm tempted to
[15:29] <dandrader> greyback, I don't know. what's the use case?
[15:30] <greyback> dandrader: third party docks - like AWN or cairo dock
[15:32] <greyback> autopilot would be interested in that stuff too
[15:32] <greyback> as would anyone who uses xwininfo/xdotool
[15:33] <greyback> and using apparmor to police it
[15:33] <greyback> just a proposition
[15:34] <dandrader> greyback, but it has the concept of focused window, which qtmir won't know about in the future. that's the biggest push for having it in unity8
[15:35] <greyback> dandrader: qtmir has to know a bit about focus, to tell the client "your window is focused"
[15:36] <dandrader> greyback, it gets it from the QQuickItem API of MirSurfaceItem
[15:37] <dandrader> greyback, namely QQuickItem::activeFocus
[15:37] <greyback> dandrader: I know
[15:37] <greyback> so qtmir needs to know that. So qtmir can export that data via dbus
[15:38] <greyback> I've not decided if that dbus stuff should be in unity8 or not. Having it qtmir means any shell written using it will have the same dbus api
[15:38] <greyback> perhaps its own library
[15:39] <dandrader> ok, will leave it alone then :)
[15:39] <greyback> for now, please do :)
[15:39] <greyback> let's discuss it at the sprint
[15:40] * greyback took a note
[20:44] <mhall119> tedg: still need that email when you get the chance
[22:45] <sidi> How can you set breakpoints on Unity's code? I've built it, run it with advanced-debug, but gdb can't put breakpoints on fn names, seems to be attached to compiz.
[22:48] <sidi> also is there any way to access the Application behind a window? especially, from the DecoratedWindow object? or at least the app's PID without having to go through xdotools?
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ubuntu-chat
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2024-05-13T22:11:09.621016
| 2015-04-29T00:00:00 |
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"Saviq",
"dandrader",
"greyback",
"mhall119",
"mzanetti",
"seb128",
"sidi",
"tsdgeos"
],
"url": "https://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2015/04/29/%23ubuntu-unity.txt",
"channel": "#ubuntu-unity"
}
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2015-04-29-#ubuntustudio
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[15:36] <ubuntu-studio> hello buddies
[15:41] <leo_> hallo, mijn taakbalk had een icoon waarmee ik kon zien welke componenten onderling waren verbondenm dat icoon is nu plotseling verdwenen
[15:41] <leo_> in ubuntu studio, v. 15.01
[15:42] <leo_> iemand, die enig idee heeft hoe ik dat terug kan krijgen ?
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ubuntu-chat
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2024-05-13T22:11:09.622326
| 2015-04-29T00:00:00 |
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"license": "Public Domain",
"authors": [
"leo_",
"ubuntu-studio"
],
"url": "https://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2015/04/29/%23ubuntustudio.txt",
"channel": "#ubuntustudio"
}
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2015-04-29-#ubuntu-us-pa
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[09:13] <JonathanD> Morning.
[09:27] <rmg51> Morning
[09:32] <JonathanD> How's it going?
[09:35] <rmg51> ok so far
[10:08] <JonathanD> rmg51: cool.
[10:16] <rmg51> but it's still early
[10:17] <rmg51> things change
[10:17] <JonathanD> Eh.
[10:18] <JonathanD> It's a good morning, it's gonna be a good day.
[10:18] <rmg51> I'm in the basement at work
[10:18] <rmg51> good or bad
[10:19] <rmg51> I never see the day
[10:19] <JonathanD> it's 46 and decent out.
[10:19] <JonathanD> I went for a walk. Wasn't too bad.
[12:19] <teddy-dbear> Morning peoples, critters, dumb birds and everything else
[18:03] <TengokuNoIsan> Anyone interested ina Dell 1950 III, with 16GB RAM, 2 73GB SAS drives, PERC 5I, DRAC, and 2 2.0Ghz Quads?
[18:05] <WorkingTurkey> whats the cpu?
[18:16] <TengokuNoIsan> E5335s
[18:16] <TengokuNoIsan> 2x
[18:16] <TengokuNoIsan> Selling it for $125 with pickup :D
[18:18] <TengokuNoIsan> Heck, even has cabling :D
[18:18] <TengokuNoIsan> 2x power cables, and a cat 5e 25 footer if needed
[18:29] <TengokuNoIsan> heck.. make that 3 20 foot cat5E. Custom cut
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ubuntu-chat
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2024-05-13T22:11:09.624696
| 2015-04-29T00:00:00 |
{
"license": "Public Domain",
"authors": [
"JonathanD",
"TengokuNoIsan",
"WorkingTurkey",
"rmg51",
"teddy-dbear"
],
"url": "https://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2015/04/29/%23ubuntu-us-pa.txt",
"channel": "#ubuntu-us-pa"
}
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2015-04-29-#ubuntu-gr
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None
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ubuntu-chat
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2024-05-13T22:11:09.633635
| 2015-04-29T00:00:00 |
{
"license": "Public Domain",
"authors": [],
"url": "https://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2015/04/29/%23ubuntu-gr.txt",
"channel": "#ubuntu-gr"
}
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