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[00:25] <mparillo> Testing with the first RC Live ISO. After the I click on Try Kubuntu but before the live session starts, I see the login page for the live session user. I can simply login without a password, but I believe this is new, and unwelcome behaviour. Also Firefox seems to start with UK English.
[00:26] <mparillo> reported here: http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/milestones/338/builds/92264/testcases/1303/results
[00:28] <mparillo> Before the jokes, Systems Settings > Regional Settings gives me US English. Funny that konversation's auto spell check seems to allow both UK and US spellings.
[00:33] <frecel> ahoneybun: what's the best place to file a plasma5 bug?
[00:38] <valorie> such as what, frecel?
[00:38] <valorie> I would say pretty much always in bko
[00:38] <valorie> sometimes in launchpad
[00:38] <frecel> valorie: I found another notification bug
[00:39] <valorie> although of course lunchpad is easier using the cli ubuntu-bug packagename
[00:39] <valorie> exactly what happens?
[00:39] <frecel> valorie: http://i.imgur.com/WSiW6DI.png
[00:40] <frecel> you can see that the image overlaps the border of the notification
[00:40] <frecel> and it looks odd
[00:40] <valorie> yes
[00:40] <valorie> I guess just file against plasma
[00:41] <valorie> they'll figure out where exactly it should go
[00:41] <valorie> our packaging is not causing that, I don't think, so just bko
[01:11] <frecel> valorie: I'm trying to figure out which project to file against
[01:12] <frecel> I'm trying to decide between frameworks-knotifications and kwrited
[01:27] <frecel> https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=346419
[03:52] <ahoneybun> frecel: I would think it should just say "Image" and not try to show it
[04:32] <frecel> ahoneybun: probably the best solution
[05:02] <valorie> thanks for your contribution, frecel
[05:02] <frecel> glad I could help
[05:33] <ovidiu-florin> morning
[05:34] <ovidiu-florin> ahoneybun, valorie what event is this about?
[05:34] <valorie> UOS
[05:34] <ovidiu-florin> https://www.google.ro/search?q=uos&oq=uos&aqs=chrome..69i57j0l5.327j0j7&client=ubuntu&sourceid=chrome&es_sm=122&ie=UTF-8
[05:35] <ovidiu-florin> Ubuntu OS?
[05:35] <valorie> [14:15] <balloons> Hello all! I'm looking for someone who might be willing to volunteer in giving a demo of the Plasma 5 desktop and show off the general KDE5 newness at UOS 15.05. It's happening May 5th - May 7th.
[05:35] <valorie> [14:15] <balloons> or demo anything else you might find interesting and cool and worthy of sharing. There's lots of neat stuff happening in the KDE world, and we have a 'show and tell' track that is perfect for 5-10 minute demos
[05:35] <valorie> Ubuntu Online S....?
[05:35] <valorie> something
[05:35] <ovidiu-florin> Summit?
[05:35] <valorie> right
[05:36] <valorie> it's the replacement for UDS where we all used to meet
[05:36] <valorie> now it's all in hangouts
[05:36] <ovidiu-florin> oh
[05:36] <ovidiu-florin> ok then
[05:36] <valorie> I thought of you because you are getting expert at that
[05:36] <ovidiu-florin> ahoneybun: we'll have to set up a script
[05:37] <ovidiu-florin> this is supposed to be pretty and organized
[05:37] <ovidiu-florin> not like my show
[05:37] <ovidiu-florin> :P
[05:37] <valorie> but you are getting good at it, and this is a few weeks off
[05:38] <ovidiu-florin> I'm in holydays between 29 and 4
[05:42] <valorie> well, balloons wrote to the list
[05:42] <valorie> surely we can come up with someone
[05:51] <ovidiu-florin> he said 5-7th may
[05:51] <ovidiu-florin> I'll be here in the 5th
[07:14] <lordievader> Good morning.
[07:39] <sitter> rad
[07:39] <sitter> kde-dev-scripts repo has unstable and stable despite not being kf5
[07:41] <sitter> oh it is kf5
[07:42] <sitter> ah, no one enabled it for CI -.-
[08:16] <Blizzz> on current 15.04: kwin is crashing when waking up with a monitor attached which was not attached when putting it to sleep. This also makes the lock screen go away for a while and reveals the desktop. If the monitor is attached after waking up, however, all is fine.
[08:27] <ovidiu-florin> Open an image in gwenview (on Vivid) and drag that image into another window(dolphin, firefox, chrome, anything)
[08:34] <sitter> Riddell: baloo continues to be red
[09:40] <Riddell> hola chicos
[09:40] <Riddell> hi vip
[09:41] <Riddell> !testers | vivid final candidates!
[09:41] <Riddell> Tm_T: can you add vip to that?
[09:41] <Riddell> http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/milestones/338/builds
[09:51] <vip> hi Riddell
[10:01] <Riddell> yofel: did you think bug 1445383 was a general problem?
[10:05] <Tm_T> Riddell: sure, one moment
[10:06] <Riddell> amusing support e-mail du jour https://paste.kde.org/
[10:08] <yofel> Riddell: that error is useless without the output in mysql.err
[10:08] <yofel> FWIW, I'll drop a question in #akonadi if they heard of general issues with mysql 5.6. The amount of reports we get is worrying :/
[10:09] <Tm_T> ubottu: no !testers-#kubuntu-devel is <sed> /neo31/neo31, vip/
[10:09] <Tm_T> ubottu: no !testers is <sed> /neo31/neo31, vip/
[10:09] <Tm_T> oh my
[10:10] <Tm_T> done
[10:14] <yofel> Riddell: hm, there's new info on https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/akonadi/+bug/1437846 too
[10:19] <lordievader> Riddell: I hope to be able to test this afternoon or somewhere tomorrow.
[10:20] <Riddell> "The vote entitled "Scarlett Clark e.V. Membership" will close at 2015-04-21 13:30:26 +0000" quick vote e.v. members!
[10:40] <BluesKaj> HI folks
[10:42] <Blizzz> hey BluesKaj
[10:43] <BluesKaj> hi Blizzz
[10:44] <Blizzz> BluesKaj: if you're interested: the ugly menu on titlebar click was kind of fixed by setting the GTK 2 Theme(!!!!!) from Clearlooks to oxygen-gtk. It makes other Qt/KDE 4 apps look far better.
[10:44] <BluesKaj> good :)
[10:45] <lordievader> Whoo, iso downloaded. Time to fire up a vm :)
[10:45] <Riddell> lordievader: could you check for bug 1445383 and bug 1443667
[10:45] <BluesKaj> fire up ? heh
[10:45] <Riddell> they're the ones that are on my radar today
[10:46] <ahoneybun> are testcases closed?
[10:48] <Riddell> ahoneybun: what does that mean?
[10:48] <ahoneybun> Riddell: I can't file anymore
[10:49] <lordievader> Riddell: Sure thing.
[10:50] <ahoneybun> now its back
[10:50] <ahoneybun> oh new images
[10:52] <ahoneybun> that's why is was off for a bit
[10:52] <lordievader> Riddell: Can bug 1445383 be tested in a live environment?
[10:59] <Riddell> lordievader: dunno probably
[11:00] <lordievader> Is the live-session broken in Qemu? It freezes at this screen: http://corellian.student.utwente.nl/files/vivid.png (that is after pressing the live session button).
[11:01] <Riddell> not that I know of
[11:01] <mparillo> I got a blank screen after selecting Try Kubuntu on today's 32-bit ISO (good checksum) copied to a usb using unetbootin. Is there an existing bug I should link to. I will try in a VM to see if it is my HW.
[11:04] <Riddell> mparillo: not that I know of
[11:04] * lordievader wonders how he should report this bug
[11:05] <mparillo> OK, I will try in a VM and if it passes, I will assume it is my HW / unetbootin (but it has never failed that way before).
[11:06] <Riddell> lordievader: tricky one it could be anywhere, you probably need to start up X and plasma manually and see what breaks
[11:06] <Riddell> mparillo: did we already put thise on wire? http://www.ocsmag.com/2015/03/13/plasma-is-my-new-favorite-desktop/
[11:06] <lordievader> Riddell: I'll investigate tommorow if that is okay, I don't have a lot of time today.
[11:07] <ovidiu-florin> are we not using baloo in Vivid?
[11:07] <ovidiu-florin> why is it not installed by default?
[11:08] <Riddell> ovidiu-florin: it is, what makes you say it's not?
[11:09] <ovidiu-florin> $ aptitude search baloo
[11:09] <ovidiu-florin> p baloo - transitional package for baloo
[11:09] <ovidiu-florin> Riddell: ^
[11:10] <ovidiu-florin> I see that baloo-kf5 is installed
[11:10] <ovidiu-florin> I can't get the advanced baloo menu
[11:10] <ovidiu-florin> how do I get it?
[11:10] <ovidiu-florin> I have i kde-config-baloo-advanced
[11:10] <ovidiu-florin> it's installed, but I get no KCM
[11:12] <Riddell> sitter: I have a parse error, where can I see the problem at http://kci.pangea.pub/job/vivid_stable_baloo/lastFailedBuild/console ?
[11:13] <Riddell> ovidiu-florin: kcmshell4 kcm_baloofileadv should run it
[11:13] <Riddell> it needs ported to kf5
[11:14] <Riddell> looks like it will die soon anyway https://gitorious.org/baloo-kcmadv
[11:17] <lordievader> Riddell: As for bug 1443667 the installer finished correctly. Rebooting now.
[11:18] <sitter> Riddell: http://kci.pangea.pub/job/vivid_stable_baloo/lastFailedBuild/parsed_console/
[11:18] <Riddell> lordievader: it's a weird one because ubiquity doesn't work by installing individual packages
[11:18] <lordievader> Riddell: It uses tasksel?
[11:18] <ovidiu-florin> Riddell: it shouldn't
[11:18] <Riddell> lordievader: it just copies the live filesytem to the hard disk
[11:18] * lordievader never looked into how ubiquity works.
[11:19] <lordievader> Ah... that makes it a very odd bug...
[11:19] <sitter> Riddell: post-installl-update/language-pack-install
[11:20] <mparillo> Riddell: Yes: http://wire.kubuntu.org/?p=241
[11:20] <sitter> also the assertion on its own isn't quite correct ... ubiquity does install packages (e.g. grub-*), it just doesn't install most of them :P
[11:20] <lordievader> Ah, I haven't ticket the updates checkbox.
[11:20] <lordievader> Perhaps that triggers the bug?
[11:20] <mparillo> All: I have replicated my blank screen on the 32-bit ISO on a VMware Player VM now as well as my HW. I get to the Try Kubuntu, click on it, and it goes blank.
[11:21] <lordievader> The oem-config is missing from the desktop
[11:23] <Riddell> lordievader: that one is known, bug 1444980
[11:23] <Riddell> I think we need to accept oem isn't going to happen on this release
[11:23] <lordievader> Check.
[11:23] <lordievader> Running oem-config seems to work though.
[11:32] <Riddell> sitter: if I update kubuntu_vivid_backports I should do a manual merge into kubuntu_stable right ?
[11:45] <sitter> Riddell: nope, backports gets automerged
[11:45] <sitter> you might want to see if you should merge stable into backports though
[11:47] <Riddell> sitter: ah I didn't realise that
[11:58] <Riddell> sitter: so how can I see what's up with baloo?
[12:00] <sitter> Riddell: http://kci.pangea.pub/job/vivid_stable_baloo/lastFailedBuild/parsed_console/
[12:35] <lordievader> mparillo: Did you also get a black screen after installation?
[12:38] <mparillo> Yes with last night's build (reported in the test results without a bug filed) and also with this morning's build., but it seems typical for me to have strange things happening at the end of installation. I think last time I got strange squashfs errors. I generally force down my VM, and it comes up normally. I am testing that now with the latest build.
[12:38] <mparillo> I also opened a launch bug 1446622 for my blank screen in the live session and attached it to this morning's test result.
[12:51] <mparillo> lordievader: But after forcing down my VM, it came up nicely as usual. Only thing I noticed is that Firefox defaulted to UK spellings, despite my System Settings all pointing the USA. Now I know that FF does not play nicely with KDE, and I generally install rekonq and Chrome and seldom use it, but it was the first time I noticed this.
[12:51] <lordievader> Hmm, I'll poke some more at it later today or tommorow.
[13:01] <Riddell> sitter: what's your secret way of doing a git --copy or something for moving to a new git repository (for plasma-mediacenter)
[13:03] <sitter> Riddell: clone --bare && push --mirror -> https://help.github.com/articles/duplicating-a-repository/
[13:04] <sitter> so in case of pmc for example: git clone --bare debian:kde-extras/plasma-mediacenter && cd plasma-mediacenter && git push --mirror debian:plasma/plasma-mediacenter
[13:09] <Riddell> http://qa.kubuntu.co.uk/plasma-status/build_status_5.2.95_vivid.html plasma 5.3 beta ready for testing
[13:09] <Riddell> !testers | ↑
[13:10] <soee> Riddell: sure, later at home :) im a bit scared to test it here at work
[13:10] <Riddell> live life on the edge!
[13:11] <soee> yes, tell it to my boss later when i break my PC :D
[13:11] <yofel> you're running vivid, what could happen :P
[13:12] <soee> :)
[13:19] <Blizzz> konversation crashing after wakeup, qtcreator too. not that great upgrade experience :(
[13:20] <darthanubis> Blizzz: do you have the vlc-phonon backend installed
[13:20] <darthanubis> ?
[13:20] <Sho_> Blizzz: do you have a backtrace for konversation?
[13:22] <Blizzz> darthanubis: yes, it is installed. gstreamer is activated though (and vlc oes not show up there). shall i remove?
[13:22] <Blizzz> Sho_: not this time unfortunately
[13:23] <darthanubis> Blizzz: yes remove and see if konversation still crashes
[13:24] <Blizzz> darthanubis: i will try, thank you for the hint
[13:24] <darthanubis> np
[13:24] <darthanubis> let us know how it goes?
[13:25] <Blizzz> darthanubis: you recommend re-login (or even restart)?
[13:25] <darthanubis> mighnot have to do any of that
[13:25] <darthanubis> be re-login at most
[13:26] <darthanubis> but
[13:26] * darthanubis ugh coffee not working yet
[13:27] <Blizzz> well, i will try later than. have a call now in 2 min and need to go out afterwards. and i will keep you posted :)
[13:27] <soee> coffin ?
[13:27] <soee> :]
[13:27] <darthanubis> cool beans
[13:27] <darthanubis> and try quassel you'll love it!
[13:28] <darthanubis> I'm a konversation convert
[13:28] <Blizzz> did not like quassel back then, but it is some time ago when i tried it last time
[13:28] <Sho_> darthanubis: What do you prefer about it?
[13:28] <darthanubis> the best part about it is it's core
[13:29] <BluesKaj> Riddell, is this the correct ppa ? https://launchpad.net/~kubuntu-ppa/+archive/ubuntu/staging
[13:29] <darthanubis> I have the core running on another computer so that when I have to reboot this machine, running the client, I can reconnect and with the core still logged on I don't miss anything. the core is a bouncer like znc.
[13:29] <Riddell> BluesKaj: kubuntu-ppa/next-staging for plasma 5.3 beta
[13:30] <Riddell> sitter: is there a place I can look to quickly remind myself when I get confused between what kubuntu_stable and kubuntu_unstable means?
[13:30] <darthanubis> I have znc as well, which is more versatile for using any irc client. But I like quassels ease of use and layout
[13:30] <sitter> Riddell: https://community.kde.org/Kubuntu/CI#Branches
[13:31] <Riddell> sitter: thanks :)
[13:32] <Blizzz> darthanubis: i am ok with misssing stuff. i am not a fan of reading backlogs. theres still plain old email in this case ;)
[13:32] <darthanubis> cool
[13:32] <darthanubis> I'm just nosey :)
[13:32] <darthanubis> also like to test different things out
[13:33] <mparillo> sudo apt-add-repository kubuntu-ppa/next-staging && sudo apt update && sudo apt upgrade -y && sudo apt dist-upgrade -y ?
[13:33] <darthanubis> I run quasseldroid on the nexus 7 to follow irc in bed
[13:33] <Riddell> mparillo: last two -> sudo apt full-upgrade
[13:33] <darthanubis> I know, too much
[13:36] <Blizzz> i use it just when i need it, mostly, but not solely for work.
[13:37] <Blizzz> or any IT stuff
[13:47] <BluesKaj> I presume 5.2.95 aka 5.3 ?
[13:48] <lordievader> 5.3 beta, yes.
[13:51] <BluesKaj> and once the 5.3 beta packages are installed then comment out the ubuntu-next ppa ?
[13:51] <BluesKaj> err staging
[13:52] <yofel> right
[13:53] <BluesKaj> ok thqnks
[13:59] <yofel> anyone else seing this? http://paste.ubuntu.com/10861534/
[14:10] <yofel> WTH
[14:12] <yofel> how did monitor hotplugging get this broken o.O?
[14:14] <Riddell> what's broken?
[14:14] <yofel> I plugged in my monitor, what I got was a black monitor, and the whole whole new screen space squashed into the notebook display
[14:15] <yofel> like if you resize a 3000x1080 image into 1600x900
[14:16] <mparillo> When I try sudo apt-add-repository kubuntu-ppa/next-staging after I enter my sudo password, I get: Error: 'kubuntu-ppa/next-staging' invalid
[14:16] <yofel> this happened with both plasma 5.2.2 and 5.2.95, so I'll blame the kf5screen 5.9 update
[14:16] <lordievader> "Oeeeh, a new screen lets squash that in the old one!"
[14:17] <yofel> ah, it's 3520 x 1080 resized to 1600 x 900
[14:17] <yofel> although xrandr looks fine...
[14:18] <sitter> http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-32380705
[14:18] <sitter> hm
[14:18] <sitter> Riddell: quite the dangerous city
[14:19] <BluesKaj> mparillo, try adding the ppa by copy and paste to the sources.list then this: sudo apt-key adv --keyserver keyserver.ubuntu.com --recv-keys 8AC93F7A then update and upgrade
[14:19] <Riddell> sitter: holy guacamole, and there was me innocently it was a paradise for anarchist vegans
[14:20] <yofel> mparillo: ppa:kubuntu-ppa/next-staging, not just kubuntu-ppa/next-staging
[14:24] <BluesKaj> Riddell, interesting where does an anarchist guy his/her veggies ? :)
[14:25] <BluesKaj> err buy
[14:26] <mparillo> Thanks BluesKaj, but yofel's way seemed easier. Jellyfish are in danger.
[14:27] <BluesKaj> mparillo, yeah , it is easier :)
[14:28] <Riddell> BluesKaj: barcelona has a vegan supermaket, but mostly we just occupy abandoned buildings and have thrash concerts
[14:29] <sitter> sounds like heaven I have to admit
[14:30] <BluesKaj> Riddell, I'm kind of out of the loop ...wth is a thrash concert ?
[14:31] <Riddell> not too sure, but it was loud whatever it was, good thing it was 3 floors underground https://twitter.com/jriddell/status/589567592228085760
[14:33] <Riddell> guess we'll be having oversized images for vivid
[14:33] <BluesKaj> ok .looks pretty ordinary to me ...anyway the 5.3 beta upgrade here seems fine
[14:41] <Riddell> BluesKaj: lovely
[14:42] <Riddell> BluesKaj: new wallpaper all good?
[14:49] <Riddell> 6
[14:51] <BluesKaj> Riddell, yes, i use my own wallpaper fromthe photos file, all is fine
[14:52] <Riddell> then you're missing one of plasma's best features, the slowly increasinably trippy wallpapers :)
[14:52] <Riddell> increasingly
[14:52] <BluesKaj> oh really, then I'll have toicheck them out
[14:54] <darthanubis> I'm wondering when the changing weather wallpaper will be added from KDE4x. Probably when marble gets fixed in KDE 5x?
[15:00] <mparillo> I got new wallpaper and kinfocenter reports 5.2.95, and I will report anything unusual here.
[15:05] <Riddell> mparillo: meh I do see your problem on i386
[15:05] <Riddell> :(
[15:20] <BluesKaj> Riddell, here's one of my nature photos/wallpaper taken at a park nearby http://pasteboard.co/2Jx22CJ3.png
[15:21] <ovidiu-florin> I'm searching for some ssl headers package can someone help me?
[15:21] <ovidiu-florin> I don't know in which one I can find the class x509
[15:22] <ovidiu-florin> it's required by kdelibs4support when compiling
[15:26] <ovidiu-florin> how do you guys build it?
[15:27] <ovidiu-florin> found it
[15:27] <ovidiu-florin> fixed
[15:41] <Riddell> mparillo: seems there's a fix to the breakage you reported, respinning to try it
[15:51] <Quintasan> Riddell: The images are still rebuilding?
[15:52] <Riddell> Quintasan: yep (you can try current but Try Kubuntu won't work)
[15:53] <Quintasan> Alright
[16:27] <Riddell> yofel: did you install plasma 5.3 beta?
[16:36] <mparillo> Riddell: Thank you for respinning just for me ;-) I will re-test. Separately the 5.3 beta seems like an improvement on my home laptop real hardware, but completely useless in a VMware VM on my work laptop. The SDDM login shows zero battery (even though the host is plugged in) but after I login, the screen is unreadable and unresponsive.
[17:46] <mparillo> The queuebot says they are updated, but they are not here: http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/milestones/338/builds
[17:50] <yofel> Riddell: yes, seems to at least not work any worse than 5.2 :)
[18:06] <darthanubis> http://picpaste.com/snapshot6-jJytQt1P.png
[18:06] <darthanubis> can something be done about this? I don't even have the package installed anymore
[18:07] <darthanubis> is it update-notifier thats broken?
[18:24] <Blizzz> darthanubis: no konversation crash this time (without re-login)
[18:24] <darthanubis> good
[18:39] <soee> BluesKaj: ping
[18:43] <soee> Riddell: kubuntu-desktop will be removed when upgrading to 5.3beta ?
[18:43] <soee> packages marked to be removed: about-distro ksysguard kubuntu-desktop libkf5sysguard5 libksgrd5 libksignalplotter5 libprocesscore5 libprocessui5
[18:44] <soee> yofel: ^
[18:51] <yofel> soee: got the same thing, but nobody else but us seems to have hit that so far
[18:51] <soee> oO
[18:51] <yofel> I'll try to take a look later
[18:51] <soee> ksysguard also ?
[18:51] <yofel> soee: yep, what I have here: http://paste.ubuntu.com/10861534/
[18:52] <soee> ha
[18:52] <soee> interestign that others dont have it\
[18:52] <yofel> well, lets say that you're the 2nd person to complain ;)
[18:54] <soee> so now im the bad person who complains ;D
[19:02] <BluesKaj> sorry soee, I didn't notice during the install, but my desktop is still working fine afterwards
[20:03] <Riddell> yofel: lovely, I'll move it to beta ppa then
[20:04] <yofel> Riddell: could you take a look at the kubuntu-desktop issue me an soee had?
[20:04] <soee> that would be cool to have it fixed:)
[20:15] <Riddell> probably needs a transitional for about-data
[20:16] <yofel> maybe, but ksysguard is worse
[20:18] <soee> :(
[20:55] <Sput> Riddell, ScottK: I just pushed 0.12.1 to http://quassel-irc.org/pub/quassel-0.12.1.tar.bz2
[20:56] <Riddell> Sput: what's new?
[20:56] <Sput> Riddell, ScottK: Qt5 had a behavior change in timezone handling with postgres, which leads to the wrong timezone being written in some databases
[20:56] <Sput> unfortunately that was discovered only after the 0.12.0 release :/
[20:56] <Sput> the fix for that issue is the only change
[20:57] <Sput> (so you could also just apply the patch if that's easier for you)
[20:57] <Riddell> ok thanks
[20:57] <Riddell> kubotu: newversion quassel 0.12.1
[20:57] <kubotu> https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1446856
[20:58] <Sput> the effect on the enduser is that messages from backlog can be offset by some hours depending on the timezones set on server and client (fixing this retroactively would require touching the database manually)
[21:00] <Sput> sorry for the inconvenience.
[21:16] <mparillo> On all the images I am installing today, Baloo File seems to crash. Is this a known problem?
[21:20] <Riddell> mparillo: nope
[21:30] <mparillo> OK, then I will file a bug on my next time. Also, now on the live USB, I seem to be presented with a login panel for the live session user. Is that working as designed? I seem to recall going straight from Try Kubuntu to the live session.
[21:54] <Riddell> mparillo: it's a known bug
[21:55] <Riddell> bug 1362599
[22:07] <mparillo> TY. Should I add it to the test results, or does that not help?
[22:10] <Riddell> it might help yes
[22:14] <mparillo> TY. Added to http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/milestones/338/builds/92383/testcases/1303/results/
[22:26] <mparillo> Plasma 5.3 beta does not seem to fix the problem where I need to enter my password before wireless connects.
[22:30] <Riddell> that'll be kwallet not working for you
[22:30] <Riddell> it works for me fine
[22:36] <mparillo> TY. Is that a configuration on kwallet I need? I never needed it on Plasma 4.
[23:54] * ahoneybun really needs to test a daily before the next one is put out...
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[00:33] <cyber> duplicity linux-generic linux-headers-generic linux-image-generic ???
[00:34] <progz> grub rescue alguem pra salvar?
[00:34] <sistematico> fale
[00:34] <progz> to sem o live cd
[00:34] <sistematico> E?
[00:34] <progz> meu ubuntu ja tava bugado
[00:35] <sistematico> Clássico
[00:35] <progz> tentei recuperar ele mas travou tive q desligar a força
[00:35] <sistematico> E agora num liga?
[00:35] <progz> pelo q ja vi
[00:35] <progz> parece q desmontou as partiçoes saca
[00:35] <progz> nem o windows nem o ubuntu
[00:35] <progz> as vezes entra no grub
[00:35] <progz> mas o win nem ele carrega
[00:36] <sistematico> As partições sempre são desmontadas ao desligar.
[00:36] <sistematico> Se tiver um pen-drive, crie um Live USB a partir do Windows.
[00:36] <sistematico> E faça o boot usando este pen-drive.
[00:36] <progz> tenho aqui
[00:37] <sistematico> No próprio site de download do Ubuntu ele ensina.
[00:37] <progz> mano coloquei o ubuntu pq as vezes o windows me deixava na mao
[00:37] <progz> agora to tendo prejuizo por causa dele
[00:37] <sistematico> progz: http://www.ubuntu.com/download/desktop/create-a-usb-stick-on-windows
[00:38] <cyber> duplicity linux-generic linux-headers-generic linux-image-generic
[00:39] <sistematico> progz: Amigo, desculpe a franqueza, mas está tendo prejuízo pela sua falta de experiência.
[00:39] <sistematico> Não por causa do Ubuntu ou qualquer outra distro.
[00:39] <progz> rsrs
[00:39] <cyber> Alguem ?
[00:39] <cyber> duplicity linux-generic linux-headers-generic linux-image-generic
[00:39] <sistematico> progz: Em muito breve, não vai mais passar por esse tipo de problema, acredite.
[00:39] <progz> assim espero
[00:40] <progz> sei que o sistema e bom
[00:40] <progz> mas esses bug me fode
[00:40] <sistematico> progz: Eu não acho
[00:40] <sistematico> heh
[00:40] <progz> gosto de resolver os problemas mas as vezes a paciencia esgota
[00:41] <sistematico> progz: Faça o Live USB pelo Windows, usando o Pen Drive Linux's USB Installer
[00:41] <cyber> Meu apt-get deu erro, oh...e agora quem podera me ajudar ? kkkkk
[00:41] <sistematico> progz: Depois tente isso aqui: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows
[00:42] <sistematico> cyber: sudo apt-get install -f
[00:43] <sistematico> cyber: Alterou seu sources.list?
[00:43] <cyber> Nao que eu saiba ne...
[00:43] <cyber> duplicity linux-generic linux-headers-generic linux-image-generic
[00:43] <cyber> Mas eh no apt-get upgrade
[00:43] <sistematico> Amigo, cola todo erro e o comando que digitou aqui: http://paste.ubuntu.com
[00:44] <sistematico> Só com uma linha esparsa nem o Mestre Fombral ou Mãe Diná adivinha.
[00:44] <sistematico> O recurso da vidẽncia tá desligado aqui no meu pc.
[00:45] <cyber> ok...wait please
[00:46] <cyber> no poster aqui, eu coloco oq ?
[00:46] <sistematico> cyber
[00:46] <cyber> pronto e agora ?
[00:47] <sistematico> Me passa o link
[00:47] <cyber> http://paste.ubuntu.com/10859049/
[00:47] <cyber> Veh se tah certo
[00:47] <sistematico> Isso num é erro.
[00:47] <sistematico> É aviso.
[00:48] <sistematico> Se quiser atualiza-los digite: sudo apt-get install duplicity linux-generic linux-headers-generic linux-image-generic
[00:48] <cyber> Mas do que se trata ?
[00:48] <sistematico> Se trata exatamente do que está escrito.
[00:48] <sistematico> Os pacotes a seguir serão mantidos em suas versões atuais:
[00:49] <cyber> Um duplicidade ?
[00:49] <sistematico> Não existe duplicidade.
[00:49] <sistematico> Existe um pacote chamado duplicity
[00:50] <cyber> ah tah, e aqueles 4 que dizem nao esta atualizados ?
[00:51] <sistematico> -e
[00:51] <sistematico> é
[00:51] <sistematico> apt-cache show duplicity
[00:52] <sistematico> Isso mostra informações sobre um determinado pacote.
[00:52] <cyber> Posto pra vc tbm ?
[00:53] <sistematico> Não precisa.
[00:53] <sistematico> Seu sistema está normal, não tem erro.
[00:54] <cyber> Vc sabe como eu atualizo um aplicativo pelo APT ?
[00:54] <sistematico> cyber: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade
[00:55] <cyber> Esse eu sei, mas quero saber um especifico
[00:55] <sistematico> Esse comando atualiza todos.
[00:55] <sistematico> sudo apt-get install PROGRAMA
[00:55] <sistematico> Pra atualizar só um
[00:56] <cyber> Esse eu tbm sei, mas instala um do repositorio
[00:56] <sistematico> Exato.
[00:56] <cyber> Eu gostaria de atualizar meu tor-chat que tah quebrado
[00:57] <sistematico> Não tenho idéia do que é tor-chat e do que você quer fazer.
[00:57] <cyber> Eh uma versao antiga do repositorio, ja saiu mais nova
[00:57] <sistematico> sudo apt-get install PROGRAMA
[00:57] <cyber> Simples: so atualiza-lo por uma versao mais recente
[00:58] <sistematico> Como eu te disse ali em cima ^
[00:58] <cyber> So que esse comando nao instala do repositorio ?
[00:58] <sistematico> Exato.
[00:58] <cyber> O repositorio nao tah na minha maquina ?
[00:58] <sistematico> Negativo.
[00:59] <cyber> O repositoria eh baixado ?
[00:59] <sistematico> Negativo.
[00:59] <cyber> Cara linux eh um grande enigma kkkkk
[01:00] <sistematico> O aplicativo é baixado, o repositório é um lugar onde ficam vários aplicativos.
[01:00] <cyber> Entao...o repositorio eh onde fica armazenado os pacotes na minha maquina, certo ?
[01:01] <sistematico> Entenda repositório como um HD(geralmente em uma universidade, ou na própria sede da Canonical)
[01:01] <cyber> Ah tah, o repositorio eh a sourse entao ?
[01:01] <converge> ta dificil hehe
[01:02] <sistematico> Os mantenedores do Ubuntu "portam" o aplicativo(geralmente como fonte(tar.gz)) e criam um .deb
[01:02] <cyber> O repositorio eh o server que dah a atualizaçao entao, certo...
[01:03] <converge> sistematico: na verdade, os pacotes do ubuntu quem cria sao os desenvolvedores do debian
[01:03] <sistematico> Esses arquivos .deb são atualizados de forma que não venham a bugar ou conflitar com outros pacotes ou o próprio sistema.
[01:03] <converge> cyber: da uma olhada, veja se ajuda a esclarecer http://image.slidesharecdn.com/aptly-devopsmeetupeng-140129034021-phpapp01/95/aptly-debian-repository-management-tool-10-638.jpg?cb=1390988498
[01:03] <sistematico> converge: Negativo.
[01:04] <sistematico> converge: Talvez alguns, mas um pacote Debian, por incrivel que pareça, pode até funcionar no Ubuntu, mas tem diferença.
[01:04] <sistematico> Já criei pacotes para ambos, sem helpers.
[01:05] <sistematico> A não ser os do próprio sistema, como dh_make, fakeroot, etc.
[01:05] <cyber> Eu acho muito interessante o wget, mas nao consigo usa-lo
[01:05] <converge> sistematico: nao concordo ainda, https://tracker.debian.org/pkg/dput-ng
[01:05] <converge> exemplo
[01:05] <sistematico> cyber: wget http://site.com/arquivo.zip
[01:06] <cyber> Nn...vamos discutilo aqui, eu ja me enfadei com varios manuais, preciso de uma intervençao humana
[01:06] <converge> sistematico: todo pacote ubuntu vem do debian, de tempos em tempos o ubuntu captura os novos pacotes que vao entrando, a nao ser quando ha o congelamento p/ lancamento d versao, como esta acontecendo agora
[01:07] <cyber> Seh eu quiser baixar um aplicativo, eu pego a URL dou um WGET e colo ?
[01:07] <sistematico> converge: Seguinte...
[01:08] <sistematico> converge: Os developers não "pegam" simplesmente do Debian.
[01:08] <sistematico> converge: Não é assim.
[01:08] <sistematico> Toda estrutura do Ubuntu, deriva do Debian.
[01:08] <sistematico> Nem por isso os dois são o mesmo sistema.
[01:09] <sistematico> Os empacotamentos, ocorrem em paralelo, e são independentes.
[01:09] <sistematico> Nada impede que eu crie um pacote e possa usar nos dois.
[01:10] <sistematico> Dentro do *.deb apesar do Ubuntu usar a pasta debian(sim, é esse o nome em TODOS os arquivos) o arquivo control por exemplo, tem diferenças.
[01:10] <converge> sistematico: amigo, nao quero ser rude, mas de uma lida que vc vai entender melhor
[01:10] <converge> sistematico: http://packaging.ubuntu.com/html/packaging-new-software.html
[01:11] <sistematico> converge: Você já criou um pacote?
[01:11] <converge> sistematico: já, estou estudando p/ ser desenvolvedor debian
[01:12] <sistematico> Qual pacote você fez, me mostre.
[01:12] <sistematico> Vou usa-lo como exemplo.
[01:13] <converge> sistematico: sao 2 exercicios https://mentors.debian.net/packages/my
[01:13] <converge> ops
[01:13] <cyber> Quais os developers que vcs mais apreciam ?
[01:13] <converge> https://mentors.debian.net/package/hello
[01:13] <converge> https://mentors.debian.net/package/hello-salad
[01:14] <converge> tem outros 2 q sao correcoes d bug, mas n fiz upload ainda
[01:14] <cyber> Eu gosto da filosofia do SLACKWARE, gosto do Patric Vokerdi, e do Richard Rtallman
[01:15] <cyber> So uso Ubuntu mesmo pq sou leigo kkk
[01:15] <converge> cyber: hehe, slack vive ainda? eu usei uma vez a muito tempo atrás, n me adaptei
[01:16] <cyber> Mas sou USER antigo de DOS, se tivesse aprendido SHELL ao inves desse, ja seria um advanced user
[01:17] <cyber> Existe sim...mas so pra GURUS tradicionalistas kkk
[01:18] <converge> hehe
[01:18] <converge> linux eh tipo um jogo d video game com fases infinitas
[01:19] <cyber> Exato
[01:19] <cyber> Eh infinita as possibilidades
[01:20] <cyber> Pena q sou um leigao...kkkk
[01:20] <converge> normal, a gente ta sempre aprendendo
[01:20] <cyber> Na minha epoca nao tinha curso de LINUX, nao tinha nem informaçao cara sobre esse OS
[01:21] <converge> q ano c comecou ?
[01:21] <cyber> Eu gostava muito de linha de comando, mas era so DOS mesmo (era o melhora da sala)
[01:21] <cyber> 94,95 por ai...
[01:22] <converge> essa epoca era f***
[01:22] <sistematico> converge: http://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/41407/is-ubuntu-lts-binary-compatible-with-debian
[01:22] <sistematico> O que eu estou tentando te explicar faz hora.
[01:22] <converge> meu tio tinha um 486, e eu soh queria jogar nascar, q tinha uns 20 disquetes pra instalar
[01:22] <converge> stackexchange nao eh fonte de pesquisa :P
[01:23] <cyber> O pessoal so conhecia WINDOWS, eu vi outros programas nos filmes, sempre queria saber qual era kkkk
[01:23] <converge> sistematico: mais confiavel ler o que o proprio ubuntu fala sobre isso https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Ubuntu/ForDebianDevelopers
[01:23] <converge> sistematico: vou colar pra facilitar
[01:23] <converge> sistematico: Most source packages in all Ubuntu components (about 4 in 5 at the time of this writing) are copied unmodified from Debian, but other sources include apt-get.org, directly from organisations such as Blackdown and WineHQ, software which has been packaged by Ubuntu developers, and packages created specifically for Ubuntu.
[01:23] <cyber> Eu tinha um XT kkkkk cara (incrivel)
[01:23] <sistematico> Most
[01:24] <sistematico> Releia ali em cima o que eu disse ^
[01:24] <cyber> Depois q vim a ganhar um 486 dos meus pais
[01:24] <converge> vc disse: converge: Talvez alguns, mas um pacote Debian, por incrivel que pareça, pode até funcionar no Ubuntu, mas tem diferença.
[01:24] <converge> talvez alguns eh diferente de 4 e 5
[01:25] <cyber> Eu era louco pra ter um Infoway cara, mas era carissimo kkk
[01:25] <converge> vc disse: converge: Os developers não "pegam" simplesmente do Debian. -> pegam sim, copiar, pegar, sincronizar
[01:25] <PSKOL> eae
[01:26] <converge> vc tbm disse que ha diferença nos pacotes, na grande maioria 4 de 5, eh o mesmo .deb
[01:26] <converge> cyber: era bonito esses comp hehe
[01:27] <cyber> Na gring tem varias conferencias, aqui nao tem nada cara, eu sempre procuro algo, mas nao encontro
[01:27] <cyber> *gringa
[01:27] <converge> cyber: conferencia de q?
[01:28] <cyber> Eu quase comprei os ingressos pra aqueles campus party, mas teria voltado no mesmo dia, so exibicionismo de hardware
[01:30] <converge> nunca fui, mas deve ser legal pra ficar umas 2hrs
[01:30] <cyber> N...eu nao tenho paciencia pra lidar com garotos pateticos
[01:31] <converge> hehe, faz parte da vida
[01:31] <converge> ql sua idade cyber ?
[01:34] <sistematico> converge: http://s27.postimg.org/xk7f3oyi9/Captura_de_tela_de_2015_04_20_21_33_11.png
[01:34] <sistematico> Ambos sistemas operacionais em suas versões estaveis mais recentes.
[01:34] <sistematico> Olha a diferença de tamanho.
[01:34] <sistematico> A versão do pacote é o mesmo.
[01:35] <sistematico> converge: Ainda acha que foi só copiado?
[01:36] <sistematico> Se eu descompactar ambos os DEB você verá que a estrutura e o conteúdo dos arquivos são completamente diferentes.
[01:36] <cyber> Se tivesse umas conferencia eu gostaria de comparecer
[01:36] <converge> sistematico: caramba ta nessa ainda. eh por isso que eles dizem 4 de 5, e nao 5 de 5 !!
[01:38] <converge> cyber: la fora tem uns eventos muito legais, a uns anos atras vi algo sobre o gnome, pessoal se reunia num apartamento final d semana p/ trabalhar
[01:38] <cyber> converge: eu instalei o Debian em uma VM pra tenter um proxy, mas tah dificil viu...
[01:39] <converge> cyber: proxy vc quis dizer bridge ?
[01:40] <cyber> converge A arquitetura seria a seguinte, eu tenho o ubuntu em uma VM, o ubuntu acessaria o Debian server, pra se conectar a internet
[01:41] <cyber> converge: converge A arquitetura seria a seguinte, eu tenho o ubuntu em uma VM, o ubuntu acessaria o Debian server, pra se conectar a internet
[01:42] <PSKOL> hum
[01:42] <PSKOL> depois q eu descobri o pfsense nunca mais eu fiz proxy em debian
[01:42] * converge nunca fez proxy
[01:43] <PSKOL> se um dia for fazer da uma olhada no pfsense
[01:43] <PSKOL> eh baseado em freebsd.. um puta de um firewall
[01:44] <cyber> No cache ?
[01:44] <PSKOL> ele faz o q vc quiser
[01:45] <cyber> Ou seja, oq seu conhecimento permitir ne kkkkk (o meu eh limitado)
[01:46] <PSKOL> e tem interface web, so clicar e pof
[01:51] <PSKOL> os[Linux 3.19.0-14-generic x86_64] distro[Ubuntu "vivid" 15.04] cpu[1 x Intel(R) Core(TM)2 Solo CPU U3500 @ 1.40GHz (GenuineIntel) @ 1.40GHz] mem[Physical: 1.9GB, 34.9% free] disk[Total: 291.3GB, 24.8% free] video[Intel Corporation Mobile 4 Series Chipset Integrated Graphics Controller] ether[Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd. CIe Gigabit Ethernet] sound[HDA-Intel - HDA Intel]
[01:51] <PSKOL> xubuntao firme
[01:52] <converge> eu to num mac, n briguem comigo
[01:52] * PSKOL puxa a faca
[01:53] <converge> meu outro computador eh um pentium 4, a placa d video eh tao velha q nao tem mais suporte
[01:53] <PSKOL> instala uma distro mais antiga
[01:53] <PSKOL> ubuntu 10.04
[01:54] <PSKOL> ou a 7.04 tbm eh boa
[01:54] <PSKOL> :P
[01:54] <converge> amanha vou conseguir outra placa d video, aih a vida melhora
[01:54] <converge> hehe
[01:54] <cyber> kkk
[01:54] <cyber> Vcs ja viram aquelas Cubieboard ?
[01:55] <converge> preciso d um cooler novo tbm, esse aqui qnd vc liga parece um avião
[01:55] <converge> cyber: nao, mas tenho um rasp pi, q eh parecido
[01:55] <cyber> Putz...to loco pra por outro cooler tbm, esse aqui parece um turbina cara, aff...kkk
[01:56] <PSKOL> passa um oleo no cooler cara
[01:56] <PSKOL> quanta esse 15 reais pra cerveja
[01:56] <cyber> O pi eh mais nome, a CUBIE supera
[01:56] <PSKOL> guarda
[01:57] <converge> esse processador ta chegando a 65 graus qnd liga
[01:57] <PSKOL> 65 graus eh normal
[01:57] <converge> melhor trocar, o oleo ja deve ta na 4a geracao
[01:58] <cyber> N...eu quero troca mesmo de cooler, vou por um silencioso, o foda vai ser tirar, pq quando montei esse pc, foi muita pasta termica
[01:58] <converge> quando liga, vc liga , vai p/ bios e ja ta 65, depois ele vai subindo
[01:58] <PSKOL> so vc abrir o selo do cooler ai tira a borrachinha.. ai vc bota uma gota de oleo singer
[01:58] <PSKOL> fica zero
[01:58] <PSKOL> kkk
[01:59] <converge> cyber: aih nao neh, ta maltratando o bichinho
[01:59] <converge> 6 sao td doido
[01:59] <PSKOL> o meu note deve ta a uns 80 grau
[01:59] <PSKOL> se eu usar ele no colo eu nao terie filhos mais
[02:00] <cyber> Eu vou comprar um CUBIE pra por o DEBIAN de server, sera q rola ?
[02:00] <cyber> Serio...o note no cola acontece isso ?
[02:00] <cyber> *colo
[02:00] <PSKOL> parece q sim.. sei la
[02:00] <PSKOL> deve cozinha os ovos talvez
[02:00] <PSKOL> kkkk
[02:01] <cyber> Puts...sorte q nao curto filho oh kkkkk
[02:01] <PSKOL> kkkkkk
[02:02] <cyber> Eu nao sabia cara...aff
[02:03] <PSKOL> e depilas as pernas tbm
[02:03] <converge> vamo para com a zuera, eu sou ciclista
[02:03] <PSKOL> o calor faz os pelos ficarem faceis de sair
[02:03] <PSKOL> hauahuha
[02:03] <PSKOL> kkk
[02:04] <cyber> N...mas essa de ter filhos eh verdade ?
[02:04] <PSKOL> ciclista depilas as pernas?
[02:04] <PSKOL> presume-se q sim
[02:05] <cyber> Deve ficar esterio ne...
[02:06] <converge> PSKOL: sim
[02:06] <PSKOL> eu pedalo tbm
[02:06] <PSKOL> mas nao depilo nao kkk
[02:07] <PSKOL> so q só mtb
[02:07] <PSKOL> so quando um galho enrosca na perna e sair torando tudo ai sai uns pelos por la
[02:08] <cyber> converge: vc acha q dah certo aquela arquitetura que te passei ?
[02:09] <converge> PSKOL: hehe, eu curto bike de estrada
[02:09] <converge> cyber: acho que o PSKOL vai poder te ajudar melhor nessa parte
[02:09] <PSKOL> cyber, da sim
[02:10] <cyber> converge: ok...pensei q vc Debian-develper
[02:10] <cyber> *vc fosse
[02:10] <converge> cyber: nao ainda, mas configuracao de rede n tem mt a ver com DD
[02:10] <PSKOL> proxy eh facim
[02:12] <cyber> Vou explicar a aquitetura que penso, tenho o ubuntu em uma VM, e o Debian-server em outra, o ubuntu acessaria o debian para acessar a net
[02:13] <PSKOL> trankilo
[02:14] <cyber> PSKOL: mas tava pensao em privoxy, pq o squid eh tem cache cara
[02:14] <PSKOL> bota no gateway do ubuntu o ip do debian
[02:14] <cyber> *pesando
[02:14] <cyber> **pensando
[02:14] <PSKOL> mas e dai? cache nao faz mal nenhum
[02:14] <progz> grub rescue alguem?
[02:15] <PSKOL> squid eh o melhor pra proxy
[02:15] <progz> ja consegui dar boot no SO pelo pen drive
[02:15] <progz> mas o sudo grub-update nao funciona
[02:15] <progz> fica como se ele fosse reinstalar o grub do ubuntu do pen drive
[02:15] <cyber> PSKOL: Mas o desafio seria esse q passei ne...
[02:16] <cyber> PSKOL: o ubuntu ficaria na VM como rede interna mesmo ?
[02:17] <PSKOL> sim pode ser, uma interface tem q estar na fixa de ip do seu modem... a outra interface vc pode inventar outra faixa
[02:19] <cyber> PSKOL: e o Debian ficaria com Bridge ne...
[02:19] <PSKOL> vc ta usando virtualbox?
[02:20] <cyber> Sim...a ultima versao
[02:20] <PSKOL> pode ser tudo bridge
[02:21] <PSKOL> so q a interface da lan vc troca a faixa de ip
[02:21] <PSKOL> se o seu modem eh 192.168.0.1.. vc deixa a wan 192.168.1.100 por exemplo
[02:22] <PSKOL> ai a lan vc pode bota 192.168.100.1
[02:22] <PSKOL> ai no ubuntu vc bota 192.168.100.10 com gateway 192.168.100.1
[02:23] <PSKOL> deixa o proxy como transparente
[02:23] <PSKOL> se nao vc tem q setar proxy no navegador
[02:23] <cyber> PSKOL: entendi...oq pensa sobre o privoxy
[02:23] <PSKOL> privoxy... nunca ouvi falar
[02:24] <cyber> kkkkk
[02:24] <PSKOL> pensei q fosse um erro de digitaçao seu
[02:24] <PSKOL> kkkkk
[02:24] <cyber> Eh um aplicativo do linux tbm
[02:24] <PSKOL> mas noa importa.. o eskema eh o mesmo
[02:25] <cyber> PSKOL: vc adm de rede ?
[02:25] <PSKOL> trabalho com redes
[02:25] <cyber> Nosssa...q incrivel hein
[02:25] <cyber> Tem umas arquiteturas de quebra a cabeça ne...
[02:26] <PSKOL> eh tem umas q da um no no cerebro
[02:26] <PSKOL> mas depois q vc enxerga as paradas eh de boa
[02:26] <cyber> Eu curto redes, gosto de brincar
[02:27] <cyber> Vc usa proxy ?
[02:27] <PSKOL> em casa nao.. mas no serviço eh o q eu mais faço
[02:28] <PSKOL> usamos pfsense em todos os clientes
[02:28] <cyber> Me diz o seguinte, o eu consultei a DNS do meu servico e dah q tah hospedado em dallas cara, tem algo errado ne...
[02:28] <PSKOL> pq errado?
[02:29] <cyber> Acho q nao to sabendo consultar, eu penso q esta dentro da empresa
[02:30] <PSKOL> que dns q eh?
[02:31] <cyber> Cara...redes me da um nó na mente kkk
[02:33] <cyber> PSKOL: quando a empresa tem um site, ele tah necessariamente hospedado onde ?
[02:33] <PSKOL> em qualquer lugar
[02:33] <PSKOL> pode ser la na china ou aki no brasil
[02:34] <PSKOL> a nivel de pais.. nao sei se foi isso q perguntou
[02:34] <cyber> PSKOL: ele tem relaçao com a empresa fisicamente, ou simplesmente eles pagaram pra uma outra empresa desenvolver o site, e nao tem nada a ver
[02:34] <PSKOL> pagam pra desenvolver o site e pagam pra hospedar
[02:34] <PSKOL> ai escolhe aonde hospedar
[02:35] <cyber> PSKOL: entao nao tem nada a ver com a rede da empresa necessariamente ne
[02:35] <PSKOL> ai configura o dns do dominio para apontar para aonde esta hospedado
[02:36] <PSKOL> naum
[02:36] <PSKOL> so se vc tiver um servidor e quiser hospedar dentro da sua empresa
[02:36] <PSKOL> tbm dá
[02:36] <PSKOL> so que vc tem q ter banda de internet suficiente caso tenha muitoas acessos
[02:37] <cyber> Perai...(pensando)
[02:37] <PSKOL> ja pensou vc hospedar o seu site na tua casa com internet de 2 mega?
[02:37] <PSKOL> kkk
[02:38] <PSKOL> o cara q acessa teu site vai sofrer coitado
[02:38] <cyber> Entao quando eu pingo o site do meu servico, nao tem nada a ver com a rede la de dentro ne...
[02:39] <PSKOL> eh o q eu te falei,, pode estar fora da rede da sua empresa.. como estar dentro
[02:39] <PSKOL> normalmente fica fora
[02:39] <cyber> Penso q fica fora tbm kkk (ignorancia pura)
[02:39] <PSKOL> e nao tem nada haver com a rede interna
[02:40] <cyber> PSKOL: agora me diz o seguinte, se eu olhar o ip de uma maquina la dentro, ai ja tem a ver certo ?
[02:40] <PSKOL> sim
[02:41] <cyber> Bingo
[02:41] <cyber> E o ip tem q ser estatico certo ?
[02:41] <PSKOL> nao
[02:41] <PSKOL> tanto faz
[02:41] <cyber> Uma empresa nao usa um ip estatico ?
[02:41] <PSKOL> pode ser estatico ou dinamico
[02:42] <cyber> Mas perai...uma grande empresa nao tem q ter seu proprio ip
[02:42] <astroo-> ciao pessoal
[02:42] <PSKOL> se ela quiser, sim
[02:42] <cyber> astroo-: bye brother
[02:42] <PSKOL> nao eh obrigado
[02:43] <PSKOL> astroo-, flw
[02:43] <astroo-> ate
[02:43] <astroo-> cyber ciao
[02:43] <cyber> PSKOL: tem algum jeito de sakar o ip da minha empresa ?
[02:44] <PSKOL> sakar...[
[02:44] <cyber> PSKOL: que eu nao tenha pensado ainda...
[02:45] <PSKOL> quando vc tiver la na empresa entra no site www.omeuip.com.br
[02:45] <PSKOL> vc descobrere
[02:45] <cyber> PSKOL: poxa...assim vc subestima minha inteligencia ne kkkk
[02:45] <cyber> PSKOL: isso eh obvio
[02:46] <cyber> Mas eu digo daqui de casa cara, eu to de ferias
[02:46] <PSKOL> se a sua empresa nao hospeda site, nem nada.. nenhum serviço ai fica dificil
[02:47] <cyber> PSKOL: foi isso q pensei tbm
[02:47] <cyber> PSKOL: mas tem helpdesk la, nao tem uma relaçao com a rede a interna ?
[02:48] <PSKOL> seo helpdesk for acessivel de fora, é
[02:48] <cyber> PSKOL: nao compreendi
[02:48] <progz> alguem?
[02:48] <PSKOL> vc, ou o pessoal do helpdesk, consegue acessar o sistema de helpdesk de casa..?
[02:49] <PSKOL> se sim, vc ate consegue.. senao, nao
[02:49] <zuuuu> boa noite
[02:49] <PSKOL> progz, ae
[02:49] <cyber> PSKOL: eu nao sou do TI la cara
[02:49] <progz> to com um problema no reparo de inicialização do windows
[02:49] <PSKOL> cyber, helpdesk talvez seja so interno la.. entao nao da
[02:49] <progz> meu linux deu pau
[02:49] <zuuuu> pessoal alguem pode me dizer alguma ferramenta boa pra recuperar hd com defeito
[02:50] <progz> ja dei boot pelo pen drive
[02:50] <cyber> PSKOL: ajuda o menino ai,jaja falo com vc...
[02:50] <progz> montei as partiçoes pelo terminal
[02:50] <PSKOL> zuuuu, q Hd q eh?
[02:51] <zuuuu> nao tem particao , oque estar instalado meu ubuntu
[02:51] <PSKOL> progz, vc quer recuprar o windows ou o linux?
[02:51] <progz> o
[02:51] <progz> linux
[02:51] <progz> vo iniciar o liu
[02:51] <progz> linux p ver se abre
[02:52] <progz> pq na reparação de inicializaçao do windows ele ta dizendo q o hd ta defeituoso
[02:52] <PSKOL> o windows inicia? o linux inicia?
[02:53] <progz> nenhum dos dois
[02:53] <progz> meu linux ja tava com defeito
[02:53] <progz> desligou numa inicialização
[02:54] <progz> tentei a recuperação do linux e dps dai nao anda mais nada
[02:56] <zuuuu> meu hd estar com defeito essa merda
[02:57] <PSKOL> http://www.edivaldobrito.com.br/recuperando-o-boot-grub-ubuntu-depois-de-instalar-o-windows/
[02:57] <PSKOL> tente isso ai
[02:58] <PSKOL> se fodeu tudo por causa de hd bixado ai fica dificil, faz um backup, formata seu hd no modo lento e isntala tudo denovo
[03:00] <progz> to sem o live cd
[03:00] <progz> boot pelo pen drive
[03:00] <PSKOL> zuuuu, baixa alguma ferramenta que formata em zero fill, deixa o hd formatando, demora pra cacete, mas talvez resolve
[03:00] <cyber> PSKOL: To uns metais com uns solos otimos rs
[03:00] <cyber> *ouvindo
[03:00] <PSKOL> progz, lice cs e boot pendrive eh a mesma coisa
[03:00] <PSKOL> live cd
[03:01] <cyber> PSKOL: posso te chama em pv ?
[03:01] <progz> blz
[03:01] <progz> vou começar aqui
[03:02] <PSKOL> cyber, depende..
[03:02] <PSKOL> kkkk
[03:02] <dk_millares> boa noite!
[03:02] <cyber> PSKOL: eu prometo q nao vou te cantar kkkk
[03:03] <PSKOL> ah bom
[03:03] <cyber> PSKOL: Apesar de ter uma queda por redes kk
[03:03] <PSKOL> @@
[03:08] <cyber> PSKOL: hey dude are you there ?
[03:14] <PSKOL> opa
[03:14] <PSKOL> vai la
[03:16] <cyber> ps PSKOL ???
[03:16] <cyber> PSKOL: ?
[03:20] <PSKOL> diz
[03:24] <cyber> Eu te chamei la...kkk
[03:24] <PSKOL> la aondew?
[03:24] <cyber> Ue...no PV cara
[03:25] <cyber> To falando sozinha la ? kkkk
[03:25] <cyber> *sozinho
[03:26] <PSKOL> nao apareceu aki nao
[03:26] <PSKOL> vc deve ta falando com outro ai
[03:26] <PSKOL> kkkkk
[04:28] <allan_> como baixo o obunto?
[04:29] <PSKOL> com a mao
[04:29] <lieber> pq pergunta né
[04:29] <lieber> dá nem pra entender
[04:30] <PSKOL> ele fez o mais dificil q eh entrar no irc
[04:33] <KurtKraut> lieber, PSKOL, durante um jantar ontem me contaram sobre uma moça, fazendo faculdade de jornalismo, que faz procura acadêmica primeiro no Facebook e depois, se achar nada, aí sim ela vai no Google.
[04:33] <lieber> hahaha tenso
[04:34] <KurtKraut> lieber, PSKOL, Como para muitos a internet tem se resumido a redes sociais em vez de conteúdo autoral ou wikipédia, os preguiçosos mentais preferem perguntar para alguém do que descobrir por meios próprios.
[04:34] <cyber> Seria mais sensato ela procurar as WIKILEAK primeiro entao ne...
[04:36] <cyber> Eu nem facebook tenho, nao me interesso por popularidade virtual, curto mesmo eh o anonimato
[04:37] <PSKOL> eh tem muita gente retardada ainda nesse mundo
[04:39] <cyber> Agora zap eu devo dizer q viciei cara kkkkk
[04:39] <cyber> Mas nada como o velho pc mesmo kkk
[04:39] <lieber> pesquisa deturpada
[04:55] <cyber> Onde fica armazenado o nome da maquina mesmo, que nao recordo ?
[05:02] <Dead_Thinker> cyber, acho que é /etc/hostALGUMACOISA
[05:02] <Dead_Thinker> hehe
[05:05] <cyber> Dead_Thinker: vlw...achei
[05:06] <cyber> hostname (pra se preciso)
[05:06] <Dead_Thinker> que estranho, passo 1h longe do note
[05:06] <Dead_Thinker> isso, ia mandar a msg aqui mas n foi, com o nome certo hehe
[05:06] <Dead_Thinker> que estranho, passo 1h longe do note, e quando volto, ele tá fritando
[05:07] <Dead_Thinker> Firefox consumindo 1.4gb de memória
[05:07] <Dead_Thinker> wtf...
[05:08] <dk_millares> plugin Dead_Thinker
[05:08] <cyber> Qual eh a configuraçao do seu note ?
[05:08] <dk_millares> certeza
[05:08] <Dead_Thinker> dk_millares, desconfio tb da atualização do driver de vídeo :/
[05:08] <Dead_Thinker> note n tá sendo mais o mesmo depois disso hehe, mas podia ser pior
[05:08] <dk_millares> eu sempre tive problemas com o chrome no windows, no linux sempre usei firefox
[05:09] <dk_millares> usei tbm alguns outros como midori
[05:09] <Dead_Thinker> foda q isso consome uma energia do caráleo, e com o preço da energia aqui por SP... :P
[05:09] <Dead_Thinker> Chrome no Windows e OSX pra mim funfa de boa, no Linux não é tão bom assim, mas nada crítico
[05:10] <dk_millares> eu so uso no osx pra ver yt e pr0n
[05:10] <Dead_Thinker> o mais estranho é que o cooler fica no máximo direto
[05:11] <dk_millares> note velho Dead_Thinker?
[05:11] <Dead_Thinker> alias, estranho n hehe, justificável pelo calor do processador
[05:11] <dk_millares> pode ser sujeira, cooler ruim, pasta termica
[05:11] <Dead_Thinker> dk_millares, pode ser, não é tão velho, tem 2 anos agora
[05:11] <Dead_Thinker> 2 e alguma coisa
[05:11] <Dead_Thinker> Dell Inspiron 15, 8gb, i7
[05:13] <Dead_Thinker> to pensando de formatar e colocar o Lubuntu, ou algo mais leve
[05:13] <dk_millares> minha namorada tinha um dell
[05:14] <dk_millares> alias tem Dead_Thinker, é i7, com vga radeon e intel, 8gb e 750gb
[05:14] <dk_millares> só deu problema; tres vezes trocaram a mb
[05:14] <dk_millares> no fim da garantia deram um novo pra ela Dead_Thinker, não veio com o win8.1 e sim com o 7
[05:14] <Dead_Thinker> o meu é quase isso, mas é hd de 1tb, e 1 ssd de 32gb, vem raid 0, mas desfiz
[05:15] <Dead_Thinker> o meu tb veio com Win7, usei até 1 mes atrás, sem formatar hehe
[05:15] <Dead_Thinker> primeira vez q formatei
[05:15] <dk_millares> e é esse video comutado tbm?
[05:15] <dk_millares> o dela nao está chaveando, e chaveava no 8.1.
[05:15] <dk_millares> mas por outro lado está estavel
[05:16] <Dead_Thinker> não sei se é comutado
[05:16] <dk_millares> se listar duas vgas deve ser
[05:58] <progz> alguem
[05:58] <dk_millares> falae
[05:59] <progz> ubuntu nao inicia
[05:59] <progz> (initramfs) busybox
[05:59] <progz> gave up waiting for root device
[06:02] <progz> ja reinstalei o grub e nada
[06:02] <dk_millares> atualização progz?
[06:04] <progz> nao entendi
[06:05] <dk_millares> foi uma atualização que quebrou o sistema?
[06:06] <progz> acho que sim
[06:06] <progz> foi numa inicialização
[06:06] <progz> desligou e fudeu ate meu windows
[06:06] <progz> nem o windows recupera a inicialização
[06:12] <dk_millares> cara
[06:12] <dk_millares> seria mais facil se vc soubesse oq fez antes de reiniciar
[06:14] <progz> não foi atualização
[06:14] <progz> nem mexia no ubuntu
[06:15] <progz> so deixava pra me salvar qd o windows parasse
[06:15] <progz> tem como eu reinstalar o linux boot pelo pen drive?
[06:16] <dk_millares> tem sim progz
[06:16] <dk_millares> mas primeiro foca em recuperar seus dados
[06:16] <progz> nao tenho nada no linux
[06:16] <progz> so no windows
[06:18] <dk_millares> sim, mas mesmo assim
[06:18] <dk_millares> eu copiaria
[06:18] <dk_millares> coloca um livecd ai e copia, pra evitar mais cagada
[06:18] <dk_millares> ;)
[06:20] <progz> como que desinstala o linux?
[06:20] <progz> se der certo agora vou tirar
[06:20] <progz> deixar so wind
[06:20] <progz> linux so na maquina virtual
[06:21] <dk_millares> se só fica parado
[06:21] <dk_millares> melhor deixar na vm mesmo
[06:26] <progz> instalar o linux por cima do mesmo tem problema?
[11:22] <Loser> Alguem ja acordou ai ?
[13:05] <mirqui> bom dia :)
[13:54] <Loser> como se monta o cd-rom mesmo ?
[14:03] <Rudolf> mount /dev/sr0 /mnt/cdrom
[14:06] <djkukapr> bom dia
[14:06] <djkukapr> ALGUEM PODE ME AJUDAR
[14:09] <djkukapr> BOM DIA SOU NOVATO NO CHAT E PRECISO DE AJUDA
[14:10] <djkukapr> EU TENHO UM NOTEBOOK DA DELL COM HD COM DEFEITO E NECESSITO FAZER O BACK UP MAS NÃO CONSIGO ACESSAR O WINDOWS 8.1 ME AJUDEM
[14:13] <djkukapr_> bom dia
[14:13] <djkukapr_> necessito de ajuda - urgente
[14:14] <djkukapr_> eu tenho um notebook da dell que está com hd com defeito ele acessa o windows 8.1 mas so para ir na senha demora mais de 40 minutos e necessito fazer um back up antes que o tecnico da dell va trocar o hd e como eu faço isso
[15:26] <AlexandreMBM> Alguém sabe de algum software que faça rsync com diff assistido?
[15:28] <Rudolf> AlexandreMBM: como assim assistido?
[15:28] <AlexandreMBM> Rudolf, que vá perguntando por substituições ou deleções.
[15:29] <AlexandreMBM> Rudolf, na verdade, não precisa fazer diff de conteúdo.
[15:31] * AlexandreMBM está saindo urgentemente.
[15:33] <Loser_> Rudolf: eu cai cara
[15:36] <Pedro__> Olá pessoal, boa tarde. Gostaria de saber como consigo remover os pacotes que instalei no ubuntu. Pra remover todos os pacotes que instalei
[15:36] <Loser_> Rudolf: onde fica ?
[15:36] <Pedro__> Mas que não comprometa o sistema
[15:36] <Rudolf> Loser_: onde fica o que? hash? hash do que?
[15:37] <Rudolf> Pedro__: esse é o problema
[15:37] <Rudolf> Pedro__: qualquer tipo de remoção DEVE ser bem feita
[15:37] <Rudolf> Pedro__: e como você vai saber qual NÃO vai "foder" o sistema?
[15:37] <Loser_> Rudolf: eu quero saber onde fica a hash da chave de USER
[15:37] <Rudolf> Loser_: que chave?
[15:38] <Loser_> Rudolf: a chave de loggin (obvio)
[15:38] <Rudolf> Loser_: você quer dizer senha?
[15:38] <Rudolf> Loser_: como te disse antes
[15:38] <Rudolf> Loser_: os dados de acesso de todo e qualquer usuário ficam em /etc/passwd
[15:38] <Rudolf> Loser_: em cada linha tem 1 usuário e todos seus dados de acesso
[15:39] <Rudolf> Loser_: como senha (criptografada), shell padrão, e /home
[15:39] <Loser_> Rudolf: eu nao consigo achar o arquivo em /home
[15:40] <Rudolf> Loser_: que arquivo em /home cristo?
[15:40] <Loser_> Rudolf: qual o nome do arquivo ?
[15:40] <Rudolf> Loser_: que arquivo?
[15:40] <Loser_> Rudolf: eu dentro do /home aqui
[15:41] <Rudolf> Loser_: falow Yoda
[15:41] <Loser_> Rudolf: quero ver a hash da chave
[15:41] <Rudolf> Loser_: mas a hash, senha, chave do usuário não fica em /home
[15:41] <Rudolf> Loser_: fica NO ARQUIVO /etc/passwd
[15:41] <Loser_> Rudolf: vc acabou dizer que ficava la
[15:41] <Pedro___> Acontece que eu to aprendendo a desenvolver com rails e instalei dois pacotes que estão dando conflito, que é o rvm e o rbenv, e eu quero remover o rvm e tudo que está integrado a ele
[15:41] <Rudolf> 11:39 < Rudolf> Loser_: como senha (criptografada), shell padrão, e /home
[15:41] <Rudolf> Loser_: e /home, quer dizer o home do usuário
[15:42] <Rudolf> Loser_: abre o arquivo /etc/passwd e você vai entender
[15:42] <Loser_> Rudolf: exato nao tem nada aqui
[15:42] <Rudolf> cat /etc/passwd não tem nada?
[15:42] <Loser_> Rudolf: sim, mas a hash eh so isso ?
[15:43] <Rudolf> somente
[15:43] <Rudolf> cara, se seu /etc/passwd não tem nada
[15:43] <Rudolf> não posso te ajudar
[15:44] <Loser_> Rudolf: sim tem, tem o nome de todos os user, e 1000x100 na frente
[15:44] <Rudolf> então está corretinho
[15:44] <Rudolf> Loser_: estude-o, que irá entender
[15:45] <Rudolf> Loser_: www.guiafoca.org
[15:45] <Loser_> Rudolf: cara onde fica a hash, nao seja mau
[15:46] <mirqui> boa tarde :)
[15:46] <Rudolf> Loser_: /etc/passwd
[15:47] <Loser_> Rudolf: deixa pra la, vc tah de brincadeira
[15:47] <Rudolf> Loser_: eu não
[15:47] <Rudolf> Loser_: você que perde tempo e não estuda
[15:47] <Rudolf> Loser_: rapaz, não vou te traduzir um arquivo
[15:47] <Rudolf> Loser_: estude o /etc/passwd que vc vai descobrir onde está o hash
[15:49] <Loser_> Rudolf: /bin/bash
[15:50] <Rudolf> ?
[15:50] <Rudolf> esse é shell, herói
[15:51] <Loser_> Rudolf: eu dei cat no /bin/bash e deu varios erros aqui
[15:52] * AlexandreMBM voltou. Estava almoçando.
[15:52] <AlexandreMBM> Loser_, experimente "man bash"
[15:53] <AlexandreMBM> Loser_, ou Google
[15:53] <Loser_> AlexandreMBM: ele nao quer me dizer onde fica a hash do user
[15:54] <AlexandreMBM> Loser_, e eu não sei o que é isso exatamente.
[15:54] <Loser_> AlexandreMBM: A hash da senha do usuario
[15:54] <mirqui> vc esta querendo descobrir a senha de alguém ?
[15:55] <AlexandreMBM> Loser_, pra que?
[15:55] <Loser_> mirqui: eu mencionei isso ?
[15:55] <AlexandreMBM> Loser_, use acesso físico, chroot, e sudo
[15:55] <AlexandreMBM> Loser_, coloque nova senha
[15:56] <AlexandreMBM> Rudolf, entendeu minha questão inicial?
[15:56] <mirqui> etc\pasword , e hash é para que?
[15:56] <Loser_> AlexandreMBM: Nn...eu quero saber onde fica a hash cara
[15:57] <Loser_> mirqui: eu nao vejo a hash em /etc/passwd
[15:57] <AlexandreMBM> Não é em /etc/passwd
[15:57] <Rudolf> AlexandreMBM: até entendi
[15:57] <Rudolf> AlexandreMBM: mas não creio que exista
[15:57] <Rudolf> AlexandreMBM: o problema do Loser_ é estudar a questão
[15:58] <Rudolf> Loser_: o /bin/bash é um binário
[15:58] <Rudolf> Loser_: você não lê um binário exceto com um editor hexadecimal (e olhe lá)
[15:58] <AlexandreMBM> Rudolf, eu fiz algo assim para SAMBA, mas está guardado, tem alguns passos manuais
[15:58] <Rudolf> Loser_: www.guiafoca.org e estude o sistema
[15:58] <AlexandreMBM> Rudolf, de onde pra hoje estou usando rsync com força, para iniciar o /home em um notebook
[15:58] <Loser_> Rudolf: a hash fica em bin/bash eh isso ?
[15:59] <Rudolf> ai jesus amado
[15:59] <Rudolf> Loser_: nada a ver
[15:59] <Rudolf> Loser_: www.guiafoca.org e estude o sistema
[15:59] <AlexandreMBM> Rudolf, o problema é que a estratégia que estou usando é restaurar dotfiles antigos, então instalar o programa e executá-lo.
[15:59] <mirqui> vc quer pegar partes do binário para descobrir a senha
[15:59] <Loser_> Rudolf: vc trabalha aqui, deveria me informar
[16:00] <Rudolf> mirqui: não dá idéia, pelo amor de deus
[16:00] <AlexandreMBM> Rudolf, com o xChat parece que algo ficou estranho, incompleto.
[16:00] <Rudolf> TROLL DETECTED
[16:00] <Rudolf> Loser_: está se fazendo de idiota e vai ser ignorado
[16:00] <Rudolf> AlexandreMBM: cara, pode ser problema de permissão
[16:00] <AlexandreMBM> Rudolf, e na verdade eu queria ter comparado com o .hexchat
[16:00] <Loser_> Rudolf: eu nao entendo de linux cara, ponha isso em mente
[16:00] <mirqui> até mais
[16:01] <Rudolf> Loser_: não entender do linux não quer dizer que você pode repetir a mesma pergunta mil vezes
[16:01] <Rudolf> Loser_: ou falar uma coisa que já te disse que não é
[16:01] <Rudolf> Loser_: para entender de linux, você precisa estudar o linux
[16:01] <AlexandreMBM> Rudolf, não creio que seja. O comando rsync está OK. Curioso: o Xchat entrou em canais de antes, mas nas configurações de Lista de Redes na aparece na tela.
[16:01] <Loser_> Rudolf: nao conheço a Hierarquia do sitema, acho q eh dificil de vc compreender isso
[16:02] <AlexandreMBM> Loser_, ninguém trabalha pra ninguém aqui, que eu saiba.
[16:02] <AlexandreMBM> Loser_, o que você consegue por aqui é lucro, fruto da generosidade alheia.
[16:02] <Rudolf> AlexandreMBM: exato
[16:02] <Rudolf> generosidade
[16:03] <Rudolf> AlexandreMBM: e já falei isso para ele
[16:03] <Rudolf> AlexandreMBM: ele tá onda
[16:03] * AlexandreMBM precisa sair urgentemente outra vez.
[16:10] <Loser_> ...
[16:33] * AlexandreMBM voltou.
[16:33] <AlexandreMBM> Loser_, existe muita documentação na Internet, sobre a hierarquia do sistema. E o hoje o Google pode ajudar a focar a leitura.
[16:35] <Rudolf> AlexandreMBM: eu já recomendei o www.guiafoca.org para ele
[16:35] <Rudolf> AlexandreMBM: basta vontade né
[16:37] <AlexandreMBM> Rudolf, não somente. Mas é o principal. Pessoas podem mostrar o caminho das pedras.
[16:38] <mirqui> o problema é para que ele quer esta informação
[16:38] <AlexandreMBM> mirqui, nesse caso ele pode ficar Google e LTDA
[16:38] <mirqui> verdade
[16:41] <Rudolf> mirqui: pra mim, pelo comportamento, é kiddie
[16:42] <mirqui> sim , não iria perguntar isso no chat
[16:42] <mirqui> não como ele perguntou
[16:42] <AlexandreMBM> Rudolf, eu estava enganado; as configurações do Xchat estão funcionando a contento. Eu enganei pela diferença de um nome esquecido.
[16:43] <AlexandreMBM> Rudolf, procurei a coisa como servidor OFTC mas estava em duplicidade como "Debian Servers".
[16:45] <mirqui> entendo nada de quebrar senhas , mas já vi diversos vídeos ,
[16:45] <mirqui> por isso achei estranho
[16:47] <Rudolf> quebrar senha é fácil
[16:47] <Rudolf> duro está pagar a conta de luz depois
[16:48] <mirqui> verdade , fora a incomodação
[16:48] <AlexandreMBM> mirqui, que incomodação?
[16:48] <mirqui> ahaha dependendo de quem ele quebra a senha
[16:48] <AlexandreMBM> Rudolf, quebrar o hash?
[16:48] <Rudolf> AlexandreMBM: hash ou shadow
[16:48] <Rudolf> ou ambos
[16:49] <mirqui> estou dizendo , sou mais kiddye que ele
[16:50] <Loser_> mirqui: kiddie
[16:50] <mirqui> script
[16:50] <Loser_> mirqui: *
[16:50] <mirqui> opa , errei
[16:50] <Rudolf> pronto, devidamente ignorados
[16:51] <Rudolf> 12:50 Ignoring ALL from zerophan
[16:51] <Rudolf> 12:50 Ignoring ALL from Loser_
[16:51] <mirqui> script kiddie
[16:51] <Loser_> Nao sou script kiddie, sou um mero noob
[16:51] <Elfon_> pessoal. vocês já instalaram certificado digital no Linux?
[16:51] <mirqui> um noob não faz este tipo de pergunta
[16:52] <AlexandreMBM> Elfon_, que tipo?
[16:52] <mirqui> vc sabe mais que diz loser ;)
[16:52] <AlexandreMBM> Elfon_, CPF etc?
[16:52] <Elfon_> A3
[16:52] <Rudolf> e o correto é Looser
[16:52] <Rudolf> heuheiuheiuehiue
[16:52] <Elfon_> Tem algum que funda de boa?
[16:52] <Loser_> mirqui: supoe-se q se realmente soubesse nao perguntaria (obvio)
[16:53] <AlexandreMBM> Elfon_, busque ajuda em sites que agenciam a compra
[16:53] <mirqui> ai falou a verdade ahaha
[16:53] <mirqui> mas agora fala
[16:53] <mirqui> qual seu problema?
[16:53] <AlexandreMBM> Rudolf, quando você ignora, não lhe aparece mais as mensagens?
[16:54] <Loser_> Meu problema, acho mais sensato, eu perguntar qual eh o seu !!!
[16:54] <Elfon_> AlexandreMBM: já verifiquei e o mais amigável e o Serasa. Por isso tô perguntando se alguém já instalou
[16:54] <Rudolf> AlexandreMBM: isso
[16:54] <mirqui> aqui é um chat , quando as pessoas tem problemas , acessam
[16:55] <AlexandreMBM> Rudolf, não toma nem conhecimento de que ele falou?
[16:55] <mirqui> e para bater papo tbm
[16:55] <mirqui> eu venho mais pelo papo
[16:55] <AlexandreMBM> Rudolf, fica nem nos logs?
[16:55] <Rudolf> AlexandreMBM: fica se eu quiser
[16:55] <Rudolf> AlexandreMBM: depende do seu client
[16:55] <AlexandreMBM> Rudolf, qual é o cliente aí?
[16:55] <Rudolf> AlexandreMBM: e de que logs está falando
[16:55] <Rudolf> AlexandreMBM: logs meus, não fica
[16:55] <Rudolf> AlexandreMBM: log do canal, fica
[16:55] <AlexandreMBM> Rudolf, logs seus, locais
[16:55] <Rudolf> AlexandreMBM: meu client, é irssi
[16:56] <mirqui> usa o bleashbit se quizer apagar
[16:56] <mirqui> mas só do seu pc
[16:56] <DantexAUG> alguém ja instalou ubuntu em chromebook?
[16:56] <mirqui> no servidor fica o log
[16:57] <mirqui> numca ví um dante
[16:57] <mirqui> sei que é tipo de um not
[16:57] <DantexAUG> e ai miriqui, blz?
[16:57] <Rudolf> mirqui: bleachbit
[16:58] <mirqui> bleachbit , isto
[16:58] <DantexAUG> é um notebook com hardware de tablet que roda o OS da google totalmente dependente de nuvens
[16:58] <DantexAUG> *mirqui
[16:59] <mirqui> e a bateria dura quanto?
[16:59] <DantexAUG> dizem por volta de 7 horas
[16:59] <Elfon_> ???
[16:59] <mirqui> ta louco
[16:59] <mirqui> muito bom
[16:59] <mirqui> tenho um note que para durar 2 horas está ruim
[16:59] <Dumb> Rudolf: e entao ?
[17:00] <DantexAUG> pois é! O problema é esse OS
[17:00] <DantexAUG> não se faz muita coisa sem internet
[17:00] <mirqui> o ubuntu?
[17:00] <Dumb> Rudolf: @@
[17:00] <DantexAUG> não, o chrome OS
[17:01] <DantexAUG> que é o que vem nele
[17:01] <DantexAUG> se viesse com ubuntu seria perfeito pra mim
[17:01] <mirqui> sim , mas vc acha que a bateria dura mais por causa do sistema?
[17:01] <DantexAUG> não sei, mas desconfio que isso contribui
[17:01] <AlexandreMBM> DantexAUG, só o armazenamento é na nuvem, ou todas as aplicações o são também?
[17:02] <AlexandreMBM> mirqui, hardware modesto, provavelmente
[17:02] <Dumb> Alguem ja fez experimentos com PI, ou CUBIE ?
[17:02] <AlexandreMBM> mirqui, menos potência
[17:02] <mirqui> rapsberry dump?
[17:02] <AlexandreMBM> Mas eu acho que em redes ruins o consumo muda um pouco.
[17:03] <AlexandreMBM> mirqui, acho que não chega a tanto
[17:03] <Dumb> Penso em colocar uma CUBIE como servidor
[17:03] <DantexAUG> pelo que li a maiorias das aplicações rodam em núvem também
[17:03] <mirqui> o qque?
[17:03] <AlexandreMBM> mirqui, falaram aí em cima que é hardware de tablet...
[17:03] <mirqui> é tipo notebook
[17:03] <mirqui> muda o teclado físico
[17:03] <AlexandreMBM> mirqui, (o que você quis dizer com "raspberry dump"?)
[17:03] <DantexAUG> o hardware é modesto
[17:04] <DantexAUG> processador ARM
[17:04] <DantexAUG> 2 giga de ram
[17:04] <AlexandreMBM> mirqui, refiro-me à capacidade de processamento
[17:04] <mirqui> é um pc pequeno o raps
[17:04] <DantexAUG> sem cooler, ssd
[17:04] <mirqui> do tamanho de um cvartão de crédito
[17:04] <AlexandreMBM> Esse tipo hardware é para economizar energia.
[17:04] <DantexAUG> tudo isso vai economizando
[17:04] <AlexandreMBM> mirqui, eu conheço
[17:04] <mirqui> sim , o cartão de memória ou pendrive
[17:04] <Dumb> Teamview, alguem ja usou ?
[17:05] <AlexandreMBM> Dumb, eu
[17:05] <mirqui> opa , pq?
[17:05] <AlexandreMBM> Dumb, funciona bem
[17:05] <Rudolf> ai ai
[17:05] <Rudolf> esses invasores
[17:05] <Dumb> AlexandreMBM: mas a versao gratuita dispoe de bons recursos ?
[17:05] <DantexAUG> só usei raspberry mesmo
[17:06] <mirqui> quando baratear vou querer um para fazer mídia center
[17:06] <AlexandreMBM> Dumb, foi a que usei. Não me faltou algo. A que você se refere?
[17:07] <Dumb> AlexandreMBM: nao sei, tah completinho
[17:07] <Dumb> A cubieboard eh melhor o PI q so tem nome
[17:08] <Rudolf> Dumb: servidor para quê? mal lhe pergunte
[17:08] <AlexandreMBM> mirqui, não sei se presta
[17:08] <Dumb> Rudolf: achei q nao quisesse mais se relacionar comigo @@
[17:08] <AlexandreMBM> mirqui, um mídia center, por exemplo com mediatomb para servir DLNA, é interessante que tenha poder para transcodificação
[17:08] <mirqui> sim, já ví no youtube
[17:09] <mirqui> com porta hdmi
[17:09] <mirqui> numa tv velha
[17:09] <mirqui> da para fazer tv , smartv
[17:10] <mirqui> e se tiver alguma porta sobrando tbm botar som de rádio sem ser pela internet
[17:10] <mirqui> sem ser via streaming quero dizer
[17:11] <DantexAUG> review legal essa pra quem interessar http://www.clubedohardware.com.br/artigos/teste-do-samsung-chromebook/3004
[17:11] <mirqui> o problema é que os impostos deixa ele muito caroo a
[17:11] <Dumb> mirqui: vc tem um PI ?
[17:12] <mirqui> não , mas daqui a algum tempo quem sabe
[17:12] <DantexAUG> saiu um novo ai, né?
[17:12] <mirqui> tem uns bem possantes
[17:12] <Dumb> Cubieboard eh melhor que o PI
[17:13] <Dumb> O PI eh mais nome, so pq eh europeu
[17:13] <DantexAUG> eu achei legal pra brincar com python ou C/C++, gravar um arduino, ele é ideal pra sistemas embarcados...
[17:14] <Dumb> Os chineses acabaram com brincadeiros dos europeu kkkkkkkk
[17:14] <Dumb> *brincadeira
[17:14] <mirqui> estão vendendo mais barato?
[17:14] <DantexAUG> ta cheio de single board computer agora
[17:14] <Rudolf> Dumb: contanto que vc não me xingue ou desande a falar abobrinha
[17:14] <Rudolf> Dumb: nada contra ti
[17:14] <Dumb> Alem de ser mais barato, hardware supera o PI
[17:15] <DantexAUG> banana pi, beagle bone black, até a intel fez o dela, intel galileo...
[17:15] <Dumb> Rudolf: xingar, pq eu faria isso, ponha em mente q aqui nao tem criança !!!
[17:15] <Rudolf> Dumb: assim espero
[17:16] <Rudolf> DantexAUG: tem os da Texas Instrument também
[17:16] <Rudolf> DantexAUG: porém são caaaaaaaaaaaros
[17:16] <Dumb> Rudolf: seus logs falam por sí so
[17:16] <mirqui> é que um dvd player de 100 tem muitos atrativos
[17:16] <mirqui> quase bate o pi ou derivados
[17:16] <DantexAUG> pode crer
[17:17] <Rudolf> Dumb: as vezes sim, as vezes não
[17:17] <DantexAUG> legal essas plaquinhas pra começar a brincar com cluster e paralelismo...
[17:18] <mirqui> mas precisa de uma quantas para fazer um cluster bom
[17:18] <DantexAUG> mirqui: aí depende do uso a que se propõe...
[17:19] <DantexAUG> mas elas estão evoluindo rápido
[17:19] <mirqui> um servidor seria uma boa opção , ou vários
[17:19] <DantexAUG> cada uma que sai, sai mais potente
[17:19] <mirqui> já pensou um raps quadricore :)?
[17:20] <DantexAUG> rola de fazer servidor também, mas aí é mais complicado... hahaha
[17:20] <DantexAUG> seria interessante
[17:20] <DantexAUG> já já vai tá rolando
[17:20] <DantexAUG> hahah
[17:20] <mirqui> um celular é octacore
[17:20] <mirqui> quadri
[17:21] <mirqui> por que não :)
[17:21] <mirqui> só desenhar trilhas maiores
[17:21] <DantexAUG> pois é
[17:21] <DantexAUG> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s5KG18M5U7o
[17:22] <mirqui> o link é sobre o que ?
[17:22] <DantexAUG> um cluster com raspberry pi
[17:22] <mirqui> haa já ví
[17:22] <mirqui> tem um com lego tbm , muito massa
[17:23] <DantexAUG> gabinete de lego, muito legal hahaha
[17:23] <DantexAUG> o caras do google usavam quando era duros
[17:24] <mirqui> sim , tbm
[17:24] <mirqui> já pensou , o google começou com um monte de pecinhas de montar
[17:25] <mirqui> e uma bruta cabeça do criador ahaha
[17:25] <DantexAUG> pois é cara!
[17:25] <DantexAUG> lego e um algoritmo matador, é tudo o que se precisa pra ficar milionário
[17:25] <DantexAUG> ahahahah
[17:26] <mirqui> baaaa ahaha os caras vão ter que botar um galho de arruda de traz da orelha
[17:26] <DantexAUG> hahahaha
[17:27] <DantexAUG> ontem entrou um cara aqui que não estava conseguindo instalar ubuntu no note dele
[17:27] <mirqui> por que?
[17:27] <DantexAUG> o boot pelo pendrive não rolava
[17:28] <mirqui> eu sempre uso é o live cd
[17:28] <DantexAUG> ele disse que não tinha opção de boot por legacy BIOS, só essa UFEI nova
[17:28] <mirqui> sempre dá certo
[17:28] <DantexAUG> mas eu achei que o ubuntu rolava com UFEI
[17:29] <mirqui> haa , eu ví um post como fazer dualboot ou desabilitar o legacy
[17:29] <DantexAUG> ele queria fazer dual boot
[17:29] <mirqui> com o win 8 e o 10 fica difícil
[17:29] <DantexAUG> com windows
[17:29] <DantexAUG> isso
[17:29] <DantexAUG> o windows dele era 8.1
[17:30] <mirqui> sacanagem , e ai?
[17:30] <DantexAUG> vi uns tutoriais mas todos deixando apenas o ubuntu
[17:30] <DantexAUG> sem dual boot
[17:30] <DantexAUG> no fim o cara desistiu
[17:30] <mirqui> eu tenho dualboot com o win 7 e ubuntu
[17:30] <DantexAUG> achei estranho o set up dele não ter mais legacy BIOS
[17:31] <DantexAUG> só UFEI
[17:31] <mirqui> mas o win 7 desabilitei da internet
[17:31] <mirqui> sim , agora vem , deve ser pc novo
[17:32] <mirqui> haaa é uefi ou legacy bios que da para botar ubuntu?
[17:32] <DantexAUG> puts, fiquei de cara, a microsoft dificultando a nivel da hardware agora
[17:32] <DantexAUG> legacy bios é certeza
[17:32] <mirqui> claro , dindin no bolso do tio bill
[17:32] <DantexAUG> UEFI teoricamente era pra rolar, mas tem gente tentando e não conseguindo
[17:33] <mirqui> tem um rumor ai
[17:33] <mirqui> que o windows próximas versões será open sourse
[17:33] <mirqui> mas agora gostei do ubuntu
[17:34] <mirqui> acho difícil voltar
[17:34] <DantexAUG> eu vi que o windows 10 seria dr graça, achei estranho mas nem fui atrás de ler, ja achei papinho
[17:34] <DantexAUG> auheua
[17:34] <mirqui> a atualização
[17:35] <mirqui> é de graça , vai comprar licença ou na loja , acho que vai pagar
[17:35] <mirqui> mas mesmo se for
[17:35] <DantexAUG> pode crer
[17:36] <mirqui> são só 3 licenças que vc pode ter
[17:36] <mirqui> depois tem que pagar
[17:36] <DantexAUG> eles querem que a massa saia do XP, que eles abandonaram, mas o povo não abandona
[17:36] <DantexAUG> hahahaha
[17:36] <mirqui> e não é nada barato
[17:37] <mirqui> a microsoft fez sacanagem comigo , olha só
[17:37] <mirqui> comprei um pc na loja com win xp
[17:37] <mirqui> veio o cd , fiquei contente
[17:37] <mirqui> sempre que precisava formatar dava o cd
[17:37] <DantexAUG> ahh tu falou, formatou 3 vezes e na quarta não rolou neh?
[17:38] <mirqui> ahaha sim, na quarta vez telefonei para a ms
[17:38] <DantexAUG> qq eles falaram?
[17:38] <mirqui> eles mandaral eu mandar um email com o key do win xp
[17:38] <DantexAUG> hahah
[17:39] <mirqui> cópia da nota fiscal
[17:39] <mirqui> esperar
[17:39] <DantexAUG> puts!
[17:39] <DantexAUG> que bosta!
[17:39] <mirqui> e na última vez que liguei para saber pq o key não funcionava
[17:39] <DantexAUG> eu teu técnico era de confiança?
[17:39] <mirqui> eles disseram que tinha que comprar outra licença
[17:39] <mirqui> sim
[17:40] <DantexAUG> pq as vezes o cara pega a chave e usa
[17:40] <DantexAUG> ai vc perde a licença
[17:40] <mirqui> sim , ahaha , pode
[17:41] <mirqui> vou tomar um café , , até :)
[17:42] <DantexAUG> falow!
[17:42] <DantexAUG> vou nessa também!
[17:47] <Seingalt> boa tarde pessoal
[17:48] <Seingalt> se possivel alguem poderia me ajudar ?
[17:57] <Elfon_> diz ae
[17:58] <Seingalt> estou com um celular motorola aqui
[17:58] <Seingalt> plugo ele blz
[17:58] <Seingalt> mas ele nao é reconhecido como disco
[17:58] <Seingalt> sim ele abre vejo que nao tem nada dentro dele
[17:59] <Seingalt> mas nao acho ele como disco
[17:59] <Seingalt> o porque quero ele como disco ?
[17:59] <Seingalt> porque gostaria de recuperar as fotos dele
[17:59] <Seingalt> usando foremost
[17:59] <Elfon_> nem sei
[17:59] <Seingalt> entro em /media e nada
[17:59] <Seingalt> apenas cdrom
[17:59] <Seingalt> entro em /mnt
[17:59] <Seingalt> e nada
[18:00] <Seingalt> fdisk -l
[18:00] <Seingalt> e nada
[18:00] <Seingalt> vi que no dmesg ele reconhece vou postar no pastebin o resultado
[18:00] <Seingalt> espere 1 min
[18:00] <Seingalt> por favor
[18:03] <Seingalt> http://pastebin.com/ue61s3XV
[18:04] <Seingalt> o resultado do comando dmesg
[18:04] <Seingalt> como podem ver ele reconhece mas nao sei como monta-lo
[18:04] <Seingalt> nem sei onde ele se econtra
[18:04] <Seingalt> alguem !
[19:13] <racionalg> nickserv register [email protected]
[19:13] <PSKOL> @@
[19:14] <AlexandreMBM> racionalg, precisa de uma /
[19:26] <Rudolf> tudum tzzzzz
[19:31] <dw_> de onde
[19:32] <PSKOL> hum
[19:33] <dw_> boa tarde sou iniciante no linux estou tendo problema para instalar o google chrome no ubuntu alguem me ajuda?
[19:34] <Rudolf> dw_: como você está fazendo? qual o erro encontrado?
[20:45] <astroo-> ola pessoal
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2015-04-21-#ubuntu-locoteams
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[04:18] <Kilos> morning everyone
[04:18] <Kilos> evening nhaines
[06:00] <Kilos> hi dpm
[06:02] <dpm> hi Kilos
[06:50] <Kilos> hi TaeheeJang
[06:50] <TaeheeJang> Kilos: hi Kilos
[07:08] <dholbach> good morning
[07:11] <Kilos> hi dholbach
[07:16] <dholbach> hi Kilos
[07:37] <TaeheeJang> good day dholbach
[07:37] <dholbach> hi TaeheeJang
[07:41] <MooDoo> howdy all
[07:41] <Kilos> MooDoo howdy
[08:12] <Tm_T> g'day
[08:12] <Kilos> hi Tm_T
[08:12] * Kilos digs in memory
[08:14] <Kilos> oh im on wrong channel
[09:54] <mhall119> Kilos: your email to the CC didn't include a link to the site you want checked
[09:55] <mhall119> ah, there you go :)
[09:55] <Kilos> its on its way mhall119 sorry
[09:55] <mhall119> no problem
[09:57] <Kilos> there is an error or 2 in some words that we will sort out asp
[09:57] <Kilos> asap
[09:57] <MooDoo> you could do it asp, but php is quicker ;)
[09:57] <MooDoo> ok i'll shush now
[09:57] <Kilos> hehe
[09:58] <Kilos> i just want to spread ubuntu where i can so i ask you all to bear with me
[09:58] <mhall119> oh, it's the brown colors, hello nostalgia :)
[09:59] <MooDoo> blimey blast from the past there
[09:59] <Kilos> hit refresh a few times and watch the background change
[09:59] <MooDoo> Kilos: what's the url, sorry missed that part
[09:59] <Kilos> http://ubuntu-africa.info
[10:00] <MooDoo> thank you
[10:00] <Kilos> yw
[10:00] <MooDoo> nice
[10:00] <Kilos> i am kinda proud of the work our team has done
[10:01] <MooDoo> can i say something trivial that is absolutley trivial ;)
[10:01] <Kilos> yes
[10:01] <Kilos> that is the first run so we are open to suggestions to improve it
[10:01] <MooDoo> how about the learn more button in the ubuntu africa section lining up with the other two buttons so it doesn't look like it's out of place....like i said very trivial :)
[10:02] <MooDoo> i like the site though :
[10:02] <MooDoo> :D
[10:02] * Kilos making notes
[10:14] * Kilos waits in suspence
[10:15] <Kilos> i really prefer irc to emails
[10:16] <MooDoo> irc is a lot quicker but i'm also at work so have to look when i can lol
[10:17] <Kilos> lol
[11:51] <Kilos> thanks a ton mhall119
[11:51] <mhall119> Kilos: no problem
[11:52] <mhall119> Kilos: in general, you don't need to get permission or approval for things like this, JFDI
[11:52] <Kilos> was better to ask than to have friction later
[14:58] <Kilos> haha mhall119 did you lose the second mail. Mark asking for url too
[14:59] <mhall119> Kilos: he's probably going through email in the order they came in
[14:59] <mhall119> because you didn't reply to the first, it's not threaded (in thunderbird anyway)
[14:59] <Kilos> lol i do that too ty
[14:59] <Kilos> oh my
[15:00] <Kilos> tell him im old and forgetful
[15:01] <Kilos> hope the oops gets a smile out of him
[15:09] <Kilos> he should know the meaning of my email addy as well
[15:09] <Kilos> hehe
[15:09] <Kilos> hi PabloRubianes
[15:10] <PabloRubianes> hi Kilos
[18:35] <Kilos> moodoo does this look better http://pasteboard.co/2JePjRzI.png
[20:04] <Kilos> good night all. see ya tomorrow
[22:35] <wlhudson49> help i am a weary geezer who has ubuntu1404 and is caught in embarassing interface problems--i will gladly bring my PC to anyone in the SF Bay area who can troubleshoot it respond at wlhudson49(at)gmail.com
[22:36] <wxl> wlhudson49: have you tried in #ubuntu, ubuntu forums, ask ubuntu or checking with your local loco
[22:36] <wxl> ?
[22:48] <wlhudson49> i tried my local loco and was locked out after it tried to send me an authoriation code, i need to deal face to face with a human
[22:49] <wxl> wlhudson49: but your local is the method by which you would normally connect with humans. that's their purpose. what code are you referring to? for the mailing list?
[22:49] <wxl> pleia2: could you potentially help wlhudson49 who is looking for help with 14.04 in the bay area?
[22:50] <wlhudson49> yes i was sent a code i entered it and it refused me
[22:51] <pleia2> wlhudson49: you're welcome to join #ubuntu-us-ca
[22:51] <pleia2> I currently can't make the time to do one on one support, sorry
[22:51] <pleia2> I don't know what authorization code you're talking about, I don't know of anything like that
[22:54] <wxl> me either!
[22:56] <wlhudson49> i was sent a link by lizJ to ubuntuhourSF and when i tried to set up an account, i somehow messed up the code and am stonewalled out
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[08:03] <TheMuso> Ok, I think I've worked out a solution to building VM images./c
[08:03] <TheMuso> whoops, wrong window.
[08:07] <pitti> Good morning
[08:12] <Laney> hey pitti!
[08:13] <pitti> hey Laney, how are you?
[08:13] <Laney> doing good - sunny days in London!
[08:13] <Laney> how's the other side of the river?
[08:14] <pitti> Laney: equally sunny :)
[08:14] <pitti> seb128: bonjour ! où est l'autre français ? :-)
[08:15] <seb128> pitti, salut ! il dort encore le feineant !
[08:15] * seb128 summons didrocks
[08:16] <didrocks> hey pitti!
[08:16] <pitti> bonjour didrocks ! ça va ?
[08:17] <didrocks> pitti: ça peut aller, et toi ?
[08:18] <pitti> didrocks: j'ai dormi mieux, mais encore trop tard
[08:18] <didrocks> à cause de jibel, c'est ça ?
[08:19] <didrocks> ces français…
[08:19] <pitti> didrocks: non, nous avons chambres pour une personne
[08:19] <didrocks> il t'a trainé dans les bars, j'imagine :p
[08:29] <willcooke> all: today's pad for notes:
[08:29] <willcooke> http://pad.ubuntu.com/MQ01t50gLb
[08:32] <willcooke> bregma, desrt, didrocks, FJKong, happyaron, Laney, seb128, Sweet5hark, attente, ^^
[08:32] <willcooke> happyaron, FJKong - yesterday's notes: http://pad.ubuntu.com/N4aJtsz2V7
[08:34] <seb128> willcooke, thanks
[08:34] <happyaron> got it
[08:50] <willcooke> popey, pingaling - are you free for a HO?
[08:51] <popey> willcooke: ya
[08:52] <willcooke> popey, https://plus.google.com/hangouts/_/canonical.com/will?authuser=0
[08:52] <mhall119> popey: http://pad.ubuntu.com/MQ01t50gLb
[08:52] <mhall119> for context
[08:53] <popey> one mo
[09:26] <larsu> Trevinho: any idea why compiz doesn't draw shadows for windows that have an argb visual?
[09:27] <Trevinho> larsu: it's by design
[09:27] <seb128> davmor2, btw, that nautilus trash issue is bug #1445595, seems to be an unity issue (calling the dbus method manually doesn't lead to the extra win)
[09:27] <Trevinho> larsu: it never did because in general it's up to them to draw these
[09:27] <desrt> Trevinho: hi. how are you.
[09:27] <Trevinho> larsu: or things like cairo-clock or other widgets might get double shadows
[09:28] <davmor2> seb128: oh nice thanks for the update
[09:28] <desrt> Trevinho: you're making larsu very happy right now
[09:28] <Trevinho> hi desrt allright, you?
[09:28] <seb128> davmor2, yw
[09:28] <desrt> Trevinho: great :D
[09:28] <desrt> thanks for asking
[09:28] <larsu> Trevinho: "awesome"
[09:28] * happyaron wonders whether we'll put input methods into snaps?
[09:28] <Trevinho> you guys are enjoying london?
[09:28] <desrt> happyaron: add it to the etherpad
[09:28] <happyaron> desrt: ok
[09:29] <desrt> happyaron: we had ideas of snaps for fonts and themes, but input methods didn't come up, i think
[09:29] <larsu> Trevinho: your workaround for not supporting frame extents was to draw the shadows for csd windows server side, right?
[09:29] <larsu> Trevinho: but those windows have argb visuals for rounded corners
[09:29] <happyaron> desrt: added
[09:31] * Trevinho larsu: it used to be at trusty times, or well, it was possible to assume scenarios
[09:31] <Trevinho> to get csd and shadows
[09:32] <larsu> I don't understand
[09:32] <Trevinho> but, things have changed, so if there's an argb visual we can just end up checking if it has gtk extents... And maybe add shadows anyway
[09:32] <larsu> it won't have frame extents
[09:33] <larsu> we disable them on unity now so that we don't draw shadows client side
[09:33] <larsu> that's the patch you proposed..
[09:33] <Trevinho> larsu: ah, ok... and with that they still have an argb visual?
[09:33] <larsu> Trevinho: not upstream, but I want to change that
[09:34] <larsu> Trevinho: otherwise we won't get rounded corners
[09:34] <Trevinho> larsu: well, there multiple things acting in this case..
[09:35] <Trevinho> larsu: for example, chrome does rounded corners by adding multiple subwindows (so the window is not actually a rectangle), and in this case we still can't add shadows (well we could, but not in the "best way")...
[09:36] <larsu> Trevinho: we don't draw shadows for chrome?
[09:36] <Trevinho> larsu: the other way is the one you want to do, but it's quite hard to us to recognize wether the app want to just round a corner or have a full transparent block inside
[09:36] <Trevinho> larsu: not with its own decorations
[09:37] <larsu> Trevinho: that's what the opaque region hint is for, no?
[09:37] <Trevinho> larsu: I have a fix for that scenario, but I was worried of possible regressions for other cases
[09:37] <larsu> what's the fic?
[09:37] <Trevinho> larsu: yaeh, but we don't support it yet
[09:37] <Trevinho> larsu: nor most of the widgets I know of
[09:38] <larsu> Trevinho: widgets? Do you mean toolkits?
[09:38] <Trevinho> so, there might be some scenarios were we might draw unwanted shadows
[09:39] <Trevinho> larsu: no sorry... I used that word in the "osx/windows term".. .I mean things like cairo-clock or similar things
[09:39] <Trevinho> "screenlets"?!
[09:40] <larsu> oh!
[09:40] <larsu> people still use those?
[09:40] <larsu> those should just set an empty opaque region so that we don't draw a shadow, right?
[09:41] <Trevinho> yeah.... Unfortunately... As soon as I changed some shadowing rules I got tons of bugs for very-very edge cases I didn't think of (or at least, that I thought were not important anymore)
[09:41] <larsu> or just don't draw one if *no* opaque region is set for argb windows, but honor the region if it is set
[09:41] <Trevinho> yeah
[09:41] <larsu> csd are becoming a non-edge case
[09:41] <Trevinho> yep
[09:44] <larsu> mdeslaur: hey! we're working on that gsettings confinemnet dameon. Where do we get the list of keys an app is allowed to access?
[09:51] <seb128> jdstrand, ^ fyi, we start working on that
[11:36] <desrt> pitti: hey... got a second to chat?
[11:36] <desrt> i'm wondering about this 'appname.developer' naming scheme
[11:36] <desrt> for snaps...
[11:36] <desrt> it's making our lives very difficult
[11:37] <larsu> "our"
[11:37] <desrt> mostly larsu and seb -- i don't have to deal with this part of it =)
[11:53] <mdeslaur> larsu: I don't really know, perhaps tyhicks does
[11:54] <pitti> desrt: I'm the wrong Martin to bark against; I think you want Martin Albisetti
[11:55] <larsu> mdeslaur: thanks
[11:55] <Laney> arf arf
[11:55] <desrt> pitti: seb told me to bark your way :)
[11:56] <larsu> seb128:?
[11:56] <seb128> desrt, ?
[11:56] * pitti <- not a snappy designer/developer, I just occasionally do some consultancy when mvo is being nice to me :)
[11:56] <desrt> larsu: ?
[11:56] <larsu> pitti: sorry, I was the one to recommend you
[11:56] <seb128> pitti, just for the record I didn't and don't see why I would have
[11:56] <seb128> desrt, stop lying please
[11:56] * pitti hugs seb128 and desrt
[11:57] <desrt> seb is angry at me now :(
[11:57] * seb128 hugs pitti
[11:57] <desrt> no hugs
[11:57] <desrt> yes -- indeed it was larsu... i confused them
[11:57] <seb128> :-)
[11:57] <desrt> too many people with beards these days
[12:00] <chrisccoulson_> pitti, I can't imagine mvo being anything other than nice, so I guess that consultancy is full time
[12:01] * ogra_ thinks mvo needs to seriously work on his image
[12:01] <ogra_> :)
[12:03] <mvo> ogra_: https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/236x/ab/b3/57/abb3576d2fc35561d8c6472556d042ce.jpg
[12:04] <ogra_> lol
[12:04] * ogra_ hugs mvo
[12:15] <pitti> mvo: :)
[12:17] <chrisccoulson> seb128, are you sprinting this week?
[13:08] <seb128> chrisccoulson, hey, yes, next to hyde park ... are you in London?
[13:12] <chrisccoulson> seb128, that sounds like fun :)
[13:14] <chrisccoulson> seb128, I'm not in london. I don't think I've been there since the last desktop sprint I attended
[13:15] <seb128> chrisccoulson, you should come on thursday for the release/party at the pub in the evening ;-)
[13:20] <jdstrand> larsu, seb128: I would start with just the things we need. iirc, locales, grid units and vibrate. add others when needed
[13:20] <jdstrand> tyhicks: ^
[13:21] <seb128> jdstrand, tyhicks, hey, I think the question from larsu was rather how/where do we specify what keys can be read and what's the mechanism to get that list to the new service
[13:23] <larsu> jdstrand: this is for desktop. We need a lot more than that
[13:23] <jdstrand> the desktop is currently unconfined. are you talking about unity8 desktop?
[13:23] <larsu> jdstrand: ah sorry yes. This is futurey work
[13:24] <larsu> jdstrand: desrt is busy writing that gsettings dbus service
[13:24] <seb128> jdstrand, yes, trying to make that service properly so it covers our futur convergence needs
[13:26] <jdstrand> let's wait til tyhicks gets here. https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/security-r-app-gsettings dictates the implementation ("Option 3 is the one we've selected") but I imagine we would start with it maintaining its own whitelist and we would add apparmor policy at a later date
[13:26] <jdstrand> since we're pretty much booked atm
[13:28] <larsu> jdstrand: you mean for the changes needed in apparmor? (are any needed?)
[13:29] <larsu> can we maybe store arbitrary metadata with a profile?
[13:29] <jdstrand> larsu: the spec says that you would express the list of whitelisted keys in apparmor, and gsettings would use the libapparmor api to query if it is allowed for that profile
[13:30] <jdstrand> larsu: I'm saying we won't do that at first and instead whitelist via some other method
[13:31] <desrt> so just toss something in /etc ?
[13:31] <larsu> jdstrand: what could this other method be? Something in the package?
[13:31] <jdstrand> sure
[13:31] <desrt> /etc/gsettings-access-thing.d/appname with a list of keys?
[13:32] <desrt> s@/etc@/usr/share@ sorry :)
[13:32] <jdstrand> /etc, hardcoded, whatever makes sense for the implementation
[13:32] <desrt> you're making larsu cry :)
[13:33] <jdstrand> maybe we are talking about different things
[13:33] <desrt> we just want a way to add some randomish unstructured data to apparmor profiles that we can query
[13:33] <desrt> key/value style
[13:33] <desrt> where key is whatever and the value is a list of dconf paths
[13:33] <jdstrand> I'm not saying that the first iteration will define different whitelisted keys per app. I'm saying, list whitelisted keys that are safe for all apps. then later, we can add per app
[13:34] <desrt> no -- we need to do app settings from the start
[13:34] <desrt> in fact, this is the thing we want to do first
[13:34] <jdstrand> well, we don't have resources for the apparmor side atm
[13:34] <desrt> we're not asking you to do anything
[13:34] <desrt> we're only asking for information
[13:35] <desrt> ie: is it possible to add random key/value style metadata to apparmor profiles for an app?
[13:36] <jdstrand> not at the moment. apparmor doesn't function as a database. that is something along the lines of where we would want to go-- where a trusted helper (in this case, gsettings) can query the libapparmor api
[13:36] <jdstrand> this is how dbus currently works
[13:36] <desrt> right. okay. that's what we needed to know.
[13:36] <jdstrand> but, we don't have a generalized way of doing this atm
[13:37] <desrt> could we abuse something like listing read/write access to files under some imaginary path prefix?
[13:37] <desrt> like filesystem read access to /dconf/org/gtk/* for example
[13:37] <desrt> just as a temporary shim....
[13:38] <jdstrand> that would work if the file query interface was implemented, which it is not yet (planned, but not short term)
[13:38] <desrt> okay. so same problem :)
[13:38] <jdstrand> yes
[13:40] <jdstrand> what some other trusted helpers have done is use the libapparmor api to see what label an app is confined under, and then either make decisions based on that and/or integrate with something like trust-store
[13:40] <desrt> do labels have to exist?
[13:40] <jdstrand> everything has a label. if it is unconfined, it has the "unconfined" label
[13:41] <desrt> oh. got it
[13:41] <desrt> label is like unique identifier
[13:41] <larsu> is that the same ss the 'policy_group' thing in .apparmor files?
[13:41] <jdstrand> well, not necessarily unique
[13:41] <jdstrand> larsu: no
[13:41] <jdstrand> this is the APP_ID
[13:41] <larsu> hm?
[13:42] <larsu> dotty has a "networking" policy_group... that's not its app id I assume?
[13:42] <jdstrand> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AppStore/Interfaces/ApplicationId
[13:42] <jdstrand> larsu: it is not
[13:42] <jdstrand> larsu: the APP_ID is composed of the package name, the appname and the version
[13:43] <larsu> jdstrand: do we have a way of translating that to the current app id we use in unity, dbus, gsettings, indicators, etc.?
[13:43] <jdstrand> so something like: com.ubuntu.developer.rancell.dotty_dotty_1.0
[13:44] <jdstrand> larsu: the APP_ID is the common theme in the whole process
[13:44] <jdstrand> larsu: the launcher determines the APP_ID, then launches the program in such a way that unity has it and that it runs under the apparmor profile
[13:45] <jdstrand> the APP_ID is the profile name for store apps
[13:46] <jdstrand> for non-store/unconfined, I don't know what unity sees, but apparmor will use "unconfined"
[13:46] <jdstrand> therefore you can do something like:
[13:46] <jdstrand> profile = libapparmor api call
[13:46] <jdstrand> if profile == "unconfined":
[13:46] <jdstrand> give it what it asked for
[13:46] <jdstrand> else:
[13:46] <jdstrand> do something else
[13:47] <larsu> unconfined apps shouldn't need to use this service
[13:47] <larsu> and the "do something else" is the interesting part that we're asking about here….
[13:48] <jdstrand> this sounds like it would be a good topic for UOS
[13:49] <larsu> yeah sure
[13:49] <jdstrand> tyhicks isn't here now, and I'd like him to be, and I'm a bit strapped for time atm with snappy work for the next couple of days. can we do this at UOS and if not then, perhaps a hangout friday/next week?
[13:50] <larsu> ok, let's do the uos thing
[13:59] <jdstrand> awesome, thanks
[14:37] <igniting> Is there a way to remove dash icon from launcher (ubuntu 14.04)?
[14:58] <seb128> tiheum, hey, how are you? we are talking about bug #1388235 and the equivalent desktop ... some time ago you said you said you would look at using touch indicator icons on desktop or updating the desktop on, do you still plan to work on that?
[15:04] <tiheum> seb128: Hi, I am fine and you? In the last few weeks I worked to expandthe Suru icon theme to categories of icons that are more specific to the desktop (files, folders, etc). There's still lots of things to do on this side. According to JohnLea_, the plan is to use Suru icons for the next desktop release but only for Unity 8 (to push users to test it).
[15:05] <tiheum> of course, the theme could be used with Unity 7 as well but it won't be the default
[15:05] <seb128> tiheum, would the indicator icons fit in the unity7 themes?
[15:06] <tiheum> seb128: no, unity 7 theme needs an update in order to support the new battery levels
[15:06] <seb128> tiheum, would that be lot of work?
[15:07] <tiheum> seb128: just one hour or two
[15:07] <seb128> so maybe we can get that done next cycle? ;-)
[15:07] <tiheum> seb128: sure :)
[15:07] <seb128> great!
[15:08] <seb128> tiheum, thanks for the update ;-)
[15:08] <tiheum> seb128: np
[15:11] <seb128> kenvandine, waits boooo
[15:12] <kenvandine> well... wait_select :)
[15:12] <kenvandine> those are often better
[15:12] <seb128> yeah, just looked at the change, I though you added sleeps ;-)
[15:12] <kenvandine> seb128, i asked for a qa review of that
[15:12] <kenvandine> oh.... no way :)
[15:13] <seb128> kenvandine, changes look ok to me, I can approve the mp if you want, would still be good to get a qa review
[15:14] <kenvandine> thx
[15:14] <kenvandine> an approval from you would be good
[15:14] <kenvandine> but still want to wait for qa before landing it
[15:16] <seb128> kenvandine, do you know why the "self.assertThat(self.page, NotEquals(None))" that you removed was there?
[15:17] <kenvandine> if the page isn't there, the other assert will fail
[15:17] <kenvandine> and elopio complained that we had too many asserts per test
[15:17] <kenvandine> which i don't completely agree with
[15:17] <kenvandine> but this one seemed un-necessary
[15:18] <seb128> right, agreed, thanks
[15:18] <kenvandine> np
[15:18] <seb128> comment approved
[15:31] <desrt> meeting!!
[15:31] <attente> o/
[15:31] <seb128> o\
[15:31] <desrt> seb128, didrocks, larsu, Laney, attente, qengho, happyaron, FJKong, Sweet5hark, willcooke: roll call!
[15:32] <larsu> hi desrt
[15:32] <desrt> hey
[15:32] <seb128> desrt, you master of the bot?!
[15:32] <desrt> everyone ready with their notes?
[15:32] <happyaron> hey
[15:32] * Sweet5hark is late ...
[15:32] <desrt> #startmeeting
[15:32] <meetingology> Meeting started Tue Apr 21 15:32:15 2015 UTC. The chair is desrt. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology.
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[15:32] <Laney> ..|..
[15:32] <larsu> Laney not taking part in the roll call again...
[15:32] <qengho> will said there was none.
[15:32] <desrt> seb128: you're up first
[15:32] <Laney> he's trolling us all
[15:32] <seb128> desrt took over
[15:32] <Laney> don't rise to the bait
[15:32] <larsu> qengho: trolling in London...
[15:32] <seb128> * sprinting in London
[15:32] <Sweet5hark> so now that we are all here: Who will bring me a bottle of Cola?
[15:33] <desrt> seb128: sounds very interesting.
[15:33] <happyaron> * in London
[15:33] <larsu> Sweet5hark: your future self
[15:33] <happyaron> over
[15:33] <desrt> #topic didrocks
[15:33] <desrt> didrocks: hey. what's up this week?
[15:33] <didrocks> desrt: nothing good :p
[15:33] <didrocks> .
[15:33] <larsu> didrocks: :(
[15:33] <Sweet5hark> larsu: my present self!
[15:33] <desrt> anything we can help with?
[15:34] <desrt> okay. thanks didrocks. hope things look up.
[15:34] <desrt> #topic larsu
[15:34] <larsu> meh
[15:34] <larsu> (meh)
[15:35] <desrt> #topic Laney
[15:35] <desrt> show me some love, please
[15:35] <desrt> everyone else seems pretty depressed
[15:35] <Laney> I did a glib patch
[15:35] <Laney> waiting for review
[15:35] <Laney> <unicode character>
[15:35] <desrt> cool. i'll try to get around to that.
[15:35] <larsu> ሴ
[15:36] <desrt> Laney's patch is about fixing trash on the live cd, fwiw
[15:36] <larsu> thanks Laney!
[15:36] <desrt> #topic attente
[15:36] <desrt> attente: your turn
[15:37] <desrt> attente: don't let us down
[15:37] <attente> 🐧
[15:38] <attente> continued work on service for switching between input method frameworks
[15:38] <desrt> thanks attente
[15:38] <desrt> #topic qengho
[15:38] <desrt> qengho: hey. want to go? :)
[15:39] <attente> 💩
[15:39] <desrt> we can come back to qengho later
[15:39] <desrt> #topic happyaron
[15:39] <desrt> happyaron: hey. what's going on at that end of the table?
[15:39] <happyaron> 在伦敦开会
[15:40] <qengho> Hah
[15:40] <happyaron> the above are real unicode characters
[15:40] <pitti> didrocks, seb128, didrocks, desrt, etc: hey guys, want to meet for dinner later this evening?
[15:40] <happyaron> done
[15:40] <desrt> pitti: we're going rock climbing
[15:40] <pitti> desrt: all of you?
[15:40] <desrt> but maybe after?
[15:40] <Laney> (or come)
[15:40] <desrt> pitti: all except didrocks :/
[15:40] <pitti> so maybe tomorrow
[15:41] <desrt> want to come climbing?
[15:41] <pitti> desrt: I suck at that
[15:41] <pitti> also, -ETOOMUCHTODO here
[15:41] <desrt> pitti: me too, but it will be fun anyway
[15:42] <desrt> we have team dinner tomorrow
[15:42] <desrt> but you are welcome
[15:42] <didrocks> pitti: depends, if we can meet half-way, why not :)
[15:42] <Sweet5hark> 以逸待勞 以逸待劳
[15:43] <desrt> okay then
[15:43] <desrt> moving on...
[15:43] <desrt> #topic FJKong
[15:43] <desrt> FJKong: hey. what's up? :D
[15:43] <pitti> didrocks: yeah, we can meet at some tube station
[15:43] <FJKong> looking into scope developing in U7, but no one maintain it... oh no, horrible
[15:43] <FJKong> U7 API has a lot of changes it,there is no Lens at all in the new API, but only Scopes.
[15:44] <desrt> well
[15:44] <desrt> that was a very nice status update
[15:44] <desrt> i am happy about your honest participation in this process
[15:44] <desrt> good show
[15:44] <desrt> #topic Sweet5hark
[15:44] <desrt> Sweet5hark: i know you've been waiting...
[15:44] <seb128> pitti, you should come to our team dinner :-)
[15:44] <Sweet5hark> wat?
[15:45] <Sweet5hark> as stated: 以逸待勞／以逸待劳
[15:45] <Sweet5hark> EOF
[15:45] <desrt> i agree. that sounds like a great plan.
[15:45] <desrt> okay. thanks!
[15:45] <desrt> #topic willcooke
[15:45] <desrt> willcooke: any updates for the week?
[15:45] <pitti> seb128: sounds good too (we are five people here at the release sprint)
[15:45] <willcooke> I saw a cat
[15:45] <desrt> nice! cats are awesome!
[15:46] <willcooke> It was a pretty good week
[15:46] <desrt> #topic other_business
[15:46] <desrt> anything else?
[15:46] <attente> thanks
[15:46] <willcooke> I saw two different types of birds as well
[15:46] <pitti> oh, sorry for breaking your meeting
[15:46] <desrt> that is quite some other business indeed
[15:46] <seb128> pitti, maybe the few of us who go climbing can meet you for beer tonight after the climbing?
[15:46] <seb128> pitti, still having the same mobile number?
[15:46] <Laney> pitti: you didn't, this is some kind of long troll by desrt ...
[15:47] <pitti> seb128: yes, hasn't changed in many years
[15:47] <desrt> it takes patience....
[15:47] <seb128> pitti, k, good, let's see how the evening goes then
[15:47] <desrt> okay. thanks everyone!
[15:47] <desrt> #endmeeting
[15:47] <meetingology> Meeting ended Tue Apr 21 15:47:21 2015 UTC.
[15:47] <meetingology> Minutes: http://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/ubuntu-desktop/2015/ubuntu-desktop.2015-04-21-15.32.moin.txt
[15:47] <Laney> thanks!
[15:47] <attente> thanks!
[15:47] <pitti> seb128: looks we can come tomorrow, too
[15:49] <seb128> pitti, yeah, well we can do that 2 nights it's not that often that we see each others nowadays
[15:49] <pitti> seb128: right; when do you guys get climbing?
[15:49] <pitti> s/get/go/
[15:49] <seb128> 6pm
[15:49] <seb128> Laney said it should take 1.5-2h
[15:49] <seb128> + traval
[15:49] <seb128> travel
[15:49] <pitti> wow, my arms are usually a wreck after 1 h :)
[15:50] <seb128> so maybe 8:30-9 pm
[15:50] <seb128> yeah, I'm not even sure I'm going yet
[15:50] <seb128> I never tried climbing ;-)
[15:50] <pitti> anyway, dinner around 8 seems fine to me, we can come your way
[15:50] <seb128> those guys don't joke though
[15:50] <seb128> great
[15:50] <seb128> let's keep in touch
[15:50] <pitti> just tell us a tube station and a time?
[15:54] <seb128> pitti, would around Convent Garden at ~20:30 works?
[15:54] <pitti> seb128: sure
[15:56] <seb128> great
[15:57] <didrocks> pitti: should we met at Convent Garden a little bit earlier?
[15:57] <didrocks> have a beer and so on
[15:58] <pitti> didrocks: if we manage to get out of here early enough, sure :)
[15:59] <didrocks> hum, seems you won't then :p
[15:59] <didrocks> ok, I'll see if I meet you guys there
[16:00] <pitti> didrocks: yesterday we went out around 19:30, plus tube and stuff, so 20:00 sounds possible
[16:01] <didrocks> pitti: ok, let's forget about it, if I was going there, I would go walking, so I'll stay here it seems
[16:01] <didrocks> will see you tomorrow!
[16:01] <pitti> didrocks: hmkay
[16:02] * Sweet5hark is afraid of heights: climbing -> scary. jumping out of a flying plane -> no problem.
[16:03] <Sweet5hark> or maybe, Im just afraid of exercise ...
[16:04] <davmor2> Sweet5hark: My wifes first flight she was more scared looking out of the window when the plane was on the tarmac than she was when the thing was in the air :D
[16:20] * ogra_ curses
[16:20] <ogra_> evolution got completely unusable for me on trusty :(
[16:20] <ogra_> doesnt survive 10min without turning the window grey today
[16:20] <seb128> but it didn't change?
[16:21] <ogra_> no, and i didnt upgrade or anything
[16:22] <ogra_> i have like 80 mails that i have marked read for about 20 times since this morning though ... every time i restart the app they come back ... very annoying
[16:35] * ogra_ sighs ... again ...
[16:36] <Laney> can you get a backtrace and/or file an upstream bug?
[16:36] <ogra_> yeah, i guess i have to
[16:38] <Laney> sorry for your bug :(
[16:40] <ogra_> heh, not your fault
[16:40] <ogra_> my general desktop experience is quite awful since i switched my desktop from precise to trusty
[16:40] <larsu> use vivid!
[16:40] * larsu hides
[16:40] <ogra_> this is only one piece of the picture
[16:41] <ogra_> larsu, i do, on my laptop, but my desktop runs critical scripts and stuff ... even rebooting takes me ~1h to get everything up in order
[16:41] <larsu> oh wow
[16:42] <ogra_> (and every time i do that i swear to myself to write a master script to do all that :P )
[16:59] * qengho is afk for driver's-license appointment.
[17:00] * ogra_ hopes you get a well open licensed driver then ... not some binary crap
[17:00] <ogra_> ;)
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[06:40] <elfy> images rebuilding
[06:40] <micahg> elfy: I don't see the package accepted
[06:41] <elfy> package?
[06:41] <micahg> xubuntu-docs
[06:41] <micahg> still in unapproved
[06:41] <Unit193> elfy: So did you want me to change the topic to something specific, btw?
[06:41] <elfy> Unit193: not atm
[06:42] <Unit193> Oh, you can yourself, nevermind.
[06:42] <elfy> I think knome sorted that for me
[06:42] <elfy> yea
[06:42] <elfy> micahg: didn't catch all of the backlog obviously - I was rebuilding because ubiquity
[06:42] <micahg> ok
[06:43] <micahg> well, it's getting down to the wire :)
[06:43] <micahg> ok, off to sleep for me
[06:43] <elfy> is there a link to the x-d package unapproved I can put in the channel
[06:44] <micahg> the link links you to the source changes file I think
[06:44] <elfy> or ochosi or bluesabre can ping that channel about it
[06:44] <Unit193> micahg: G'night.
[06:44] <micahg> I think bluesabre said he'd ask in the morning
[06:44] <elfy> ok
[06:45] <micahg> was more of an FYI for your testing
[06:45] <elfy> ok
[06:45] <micahg> Unit193: night
[06:45] <elfy> micahg: night :)
[06:46] <Unit193> elfy: We're likely doing nothing new and silly for core in Wombat, right?
[06:46] <micahg> elfy: morning :)
[06:46] <elfy> :D
[06:47] <astraljava> elfy: I checked the tracker, and I didn't encounter any other bugs than what were already filed. To my surprise, the system was fairly swift once running. It sort of troubles me why the HDD operations take that long during installation, but not really afterwards.
[06:47] <elfy> Unit193: not that I know of
[06:47] <astraljava> But I'm not all that bothered. :p
[06:47] <elfy> astraljava: thanks for running it - and who knows :)
[06:49] <Unit193> Alrighty.
[06:50] <elfy> Unit193: tbh I think that what we have there is what is right for what it is :)
[06:51] <elfy> imho
[06:51] <Unit193> Right, doesn't need more than what it has. I guess I was wondering about ISOs, and them being a silly idea.
[06:52] <elfy> oh right
[06:52] <Unit193> Seems like a lot more to test and support, sooo. Nope.
[06:53] <elfy> well
[06:53] <elfy> it'd likely get tested as much as core does now - regardless of what it was
[06:53] <elfy> also - we could (if it was iso) make it optional
[06:54] <elfy> only time I'm particularly concerned about how much something is tested is when we need to mark ready
[06:55] <Unit193> Meh, core/mini is always a moving target, never "released" or "ready", so shouldn't hang on that.
[06:55] <elfy> personally I quite like the idea of it being an iso - smoketest core - 2 hours, smoketest 8 iso's 2 hours
[06:55] <Unit193> (Though the mini itself isn't rebuilt, all packages are just downloaded.)
[06:55] <Unit193> Hah, well that. :P
[06:56] <elfy> and dailies are a moving target too :)
[06:56] <Unit193> Right, but eventually Xubuntu is released for 15.04.
[07:00] <elfy> so - any real reasons behind not doing a cyclical core?
[07:01] <elfy> so - for future - request a rebuild to available ~45 minutes
[07:05] <Unit193> We'd be adding a new ISO. I'm not even sure how to do that. I wouldn't see any reason apart from the whole testing standpoint.
[07:07] <elfy> oh dear
[07:07] <elfy> live session doesn't start now
[07:07] <Unit193> Oi.
[07:10] <elfy> sigh
[07:10] <Unit193> (Downloading now.)
[07:14] <elfy> pnged -release about that
[07:15] <elfy> installs
[07:15] <elfy> just fails to reach desktop in live - both vm types I've got here
[07:52] <Unit193> elfy:32bit works in vbox.
[07:55] <Unit193> Hung on powering down, but still.
[08:17] <Unit193> Unapproved: accepted xubuntu-docs [source] (vivid-proposed) [15.04.2]
[08:50] <elfy> I've dashed in -dashing out, if someone can ping the right channel to get those -docs approved, we can rebuild - seems that pitti spotted the issue with the live
[08:51] <elfy> Unit193: thanks for looking at the 32 bit
[08:55] <Unit193> I may have managed to boot so I didn't see the issue. I don't know.
[08:57] <slickymasterWork> which -docs are you talking about elfy?
[08:59] <Unit193> slickymasterWork: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xubuntu-docs/15.04.2
[08:59] <Unit193> elfy: Next rebuild will catch it.
[09:00] <slickymasterWork> oh, ok
[09:00] <slickymasterWork> I think you're right Unit193
[09:00] <Unit193> slickymasterWork: https://launchpad.net/~slickymaster-d
[09:00] <Unit193> I know I'm right. :P
[09:01] <slickymasterWork> lol
[09:01] * slickymasterWork wasn't trying to insinuate otherwise
[10:09] <bluesabre> looks like xubuntu-docs is published in release now
[10:11] <slickymasterWork> yeaps bluesabre \o/
[10:17] <bluesabre> I've never requested a rebuild, does hitting the button rebuild for everyone or go to another screen?
[10:18] <bluesabre> http://i.imgur.com/hcyslUC.png
[10:18] <bluesabre> knome, elfy, ochosi ^ ?
[10:18] <knome> i think it just rebuilds
[10:19] <bluesabre> so, I should poke -release before pressing in case they want to rebuild something in 5 minutes then
[10:22] <knome> i guess so
[10:22] <knome> of course you don't need to rebuild for the WHOLE world
[10:23] <knome> and i don't think i can ;)
[10:24] <bluesabre> yeah, the shiny button needs more descriptive text :)
[10:25] <knome> yep
[10:26] <knome> mention that in #ubuntu-quality and ping balloons :)
[10:38] <knome> upgrading laptop to vivid
[10:39] <bluesabre> watching ubuntu-quality
[10:39] <knome> mhm
[10:56] <bluesabre> seems like there are still ubiquity issues being sorted out
[10:56] <knome> mm
[10:56] <bluesabre> I'll leave the rebuild for elfy later today if it doesn't happen before we tell it to
[10:57] <knome> okie
[10:57] <bluesabre> always amazing how things come down to the last few days/hours
[10:57] <bluesabre> :)
[10:58] <knome> yep
[10:58] <knome> and otoh, not so amazing..
[10:58] <bluesabre> yeah
[11:09] <ochosi> hi everyone
[11:09] <knome> hullo
[11:10] <astraljava> o/
[11:11] <knome> even astraljava!
[11:11] <slickymasterWork> o/
[11:11] <knome> ooh, slickymasterWork!
[11:12] <slickymasterWork> yes, he's around
[11:14] <astraljava> I don't seem to have Xubuntu meetings in the calendar. Is it because there aren't any scheduled, or am I a dummy?
[11:14] <astraljava> Release date is there, though.
[11:15] <knome> those two aren't either/or though
[11:15] <astraljava> And EOL for 12.04.
[11:15] <astraljava> Oh, that may be so.
[11:15] <knome> astraljava, but, no meeting is scheduled
[11:15] <astraljava> Ok
[11:16] <knome> we have this cycling chair thing now, so it's not always on the same day or time
[11:16] <astraljava> Right.
[11:17] <astraljava> Oh yeah, there's the Xubuntu Team, should I apply to join? I forget these things.
[11:17] <knome> but otoh it means every team member can attend meetings at least now and then, and spreads the responsibilities
[11:17] <knome> not yet
[11:17] <astraljava> Tomorrow?
[11:18] <knome> hah
[11:18] <astraljava> If that's all you got, then I'm gonna keep asking.
[11:18] <knome> no, when your contributions are sustained :)
[11:18] <astraljava> Oh ok, thanks. :)
[11:18] <knome> you'll likely get more slack since you're coming back
[11:19] <astraljava> Well, I'm in no hurry.
[11:19] <knome> yeah
[11:19] <knome> the only way the team votes make a difference is that it isn't trivial to join it
[11:20] <knome> not to keep it exclusive, but something that has some long-time value
[11:20] <knome> for the decisions, mostly
[11:21] <knome> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Xubuntu/StrategyDocument#Xubuntu_Team
[11:21] <knome> ^ the stratgy document is much shorter and easier to read nowadays.
[11:21] <astraljava> Thanks, I need to do some reading to get back on track.
[11:22] <knome> simply put:
[11:22] <knome> contribute to a subteam first
[11:22] <knome> after sustained contribution, you will get team membership more or less "automatically"
[11:25] <astraljava> Gotcha, cheers!
[11:25] <knome> ok, booting, brb
[11:30] <bluesabre> o/
[11:30] <bluesabre> :D
[11:31] <knome> hmm. is it normal that the battery icon isn't symbolic in vivid? :P
[11:31] <knome> well it's symbolic, but seems to be the wrong kind
[11:32] <knome> the other indicator icons are white, the battery icon is dark
[11:33] <astraljava> Screen shot?
[11:33] <knome> just a sec
[11:33] <bluesabre> knome: not normal, and not seeing here
[11:34] <knome> also my notes plugin was dropped from the panel layout during the upgrade
[11:34] <bluesabre> knome: just open notes and it should add itself back
[11:34] <knome> aha
[11:35] <knome> well i already readded it
[11:35] <knome> is there a bug for that?
[11:35] <bluesabre> dunno
[11:35] <bluesabre> probably not
[11:35] <knome> http://temp.knome.fi/xubuntu/Screenshot_2015-04-21_14-34-22.png
[11:35] <bluesabre> whats your panel height?
[11:35] <knome> 24
[11:36] <bluesabre> weird
[11:36] <knome> changing that doesn't affect the power icon
[11:36] <knome> it's the same for all sizes
[11:36] <bluesabre> ochosi: pling
[11:36] <ochosi> bluesabre: pong
[11:36] <bluesabre> ochosi: see above ;)
[11:36] <ochosi> a-ha, how did you get there?
[11:37] <knome> ochosi, upgraded utopic->vivid
[11:37] <ochosi> i mean upgrade/clean install
[11:37] <knome> ochosi, bam.
[11:37] <bluesabre> knome drops the mic
[11:37] <ochosi> sounds like it
[11:37] <astraljava> Okay, that's odd indeed. Isn't it slightly darker gray when it's charging, but not that much.
[11:37] <ochosi> knome: is that the power manager plugin or indicator-power?
[11:37] <knome> indicator
[11:38] <ochosi> hmkay, possible we don't really support it that well anymore in our icon theme
[11:38] <knome> ok
[11:38] <knome> how do i get the pm plugin, i don't have it in the applet list
[11:38] <ochosi> maybe it's not installed
[11:39] <knome> likely not.
[11:39] <ochosi> i *think* i see the culprit
[11:39] <ochosi> it's actually not entirely our fault, partly the indicators
[11:40] <knome> ok
[11:40] <ochosi> problem is, they now want 24px icons whereas before they wanted 22px
[11:40] <knome> he following packages have unmet dependencies: xfce4-power-manager-plugins : Depends: xfce4-power-manager (>= 0.8.0~) but it is not going to be installed
[11:40] <ochosi> so a few symlinks might be missing
[11:40] <ochosi> bluesabre: ^
[11:41] <ochosi> not sure what the packaging problem is abou
[11:41] <ochosi> t
[11:41] <knome> i wonder if there's something fishy with PPA's.
[11:41] <bluesabre> knome: do you have xfce4-power-manager pinned to an older version?
[11:41] <knome> or sth..
[11:41] <knome> maybe.
[11:41] <ochosi> knome: wanna test a quick fix for the icon problem?
[11:41] <knome> ochosi, soon
[11:41] <bluesabre> if you upgraded, your PPAs should all be disabled
[11:41] <knome> bluesabre, should, yeah...
[11:42] <knome> yeah, pinning
[11:43] <bluesabre> should have 1.4.3-0ubuntu1 for xfce4-power-manager, -data, -plugins
[11:43] <knome> ochosi, ok, shoot
[11:43] <knome> bluesabre, unpinning fixes
[11:43] <bluesabre> :p
[11:43] <ochosi> knome: go to /usr/share/icons/elementary-xfce-dark/panel/22 in the term
[11:43] <ochosi> knome: then run "cp battery* ../24/"
[11:43] <knome> brb, phone
[11:44] <ochosi> knome: ideally that'll work because the symlinks are all relative, so they should adjust. then run "sudo gtk-update-icon-cache /usr/share/icons/elementary-xfce-dark/" and then restart the panel (xfce4-panel -r)
[11:45] <knome> nope
[11:45] <knome> wait
[11:46] <knome> yeah, nope
[11:47] <ochosi> do the symlinks look ok?
[11:47] <ochosi> i mean the ones in 24
[11:47] <knome> just a sec..
[11:47] <knome> yeah
[11:47] <ochosi> right, then i'm not sure
[11:48] <ochosi> you could diff the -dark/panel folders with the -xfce/panel folder contents
[11:48] <ochosi> must be some icon name missing from dark
[11:50] <knome> http://temp.knome.fi/xubuntu/diff_dark_reg
[11:51] <knome> ochosi, constructive criticism: the new frame "around selected windows" in greybird when cycling is a bit too obtrusive to my taste
[11:54] <ochosi> you mean in the tabwin window or the frame that is indicating the window itself?
[11:55] <knome> the window itself
[11:55] <ochosi> that's up to xfwm4 itself, can't theme that rly
[11:55] <knome> aha
[11:55] <knome> then i guess i'll just turn that off
[11:55] <ochosi> you can disable it specifically for tabwin if you don't like it
[11:55] <knome> i know
[11:55] <knome> i liked the border
[11:56] <knome> but not the huge blue bloat
[11:56] <ochosi> nah, that one was extremely hard to see imo
[11:56] <knome> just enough
[11:56] <ochosi> especially when moving and tiling a window, the blue rectangle is very nice
[11:56] <knome> heh
[11:57] <knome> so
[11:57] <knome> do you want a bug for this indicator icon issue?
[11:59] <ochosi> i guess
[11:59] <knome> which package?
[11:59] <ochosi> it might be the fake symbolic icons actually
[11:59] <ochosi> lemme quickly check one more thing
[11:59] <knome> sure
[12:01] <ochosi> could you please create these symlinks in 22 and 24 in -dark? http://dpaste.com/3N8B0HZ
[12:01] <elfy> are we ready for rebuild?
[12:01] <knome> ugh
[12:02] <ochosi> knome: then if that's the problem, i guess i need to re-add those icons, even though this is actually broken by design :(
[12:02] <ochosi> and finally with 15.10 this problem will resurface if ppl continue to use indicator-power and it doesn't get fixed
[12:02] <knome> nope..
[12:02] <knome> (i cp'd)
[12:02] <ochosi> copied what?
[12:02] <knome> the symlinks
[12:03] <ochosi> and you updated the cache?
[12:03] <ochosi> you could also restart your session just to be sure
[12:03] <knome> yes..
[12:03] <knome> ok, just a sec
[12:04] <knome> no luck
[12:06] <ochosi> no clue then tbh
[12:06] <knome> so which package?
[12:06] <ochosi> maybe i can try that later @home
[12:06] <ochosi> assign it to xubuntu-artwork
[12:07] <knome> the package or the team?
[12:07] <knome> :P
[12:07] <elfy> seemingly not
[12:11] <knome> bug 1446605
[12:12] <knome> elfy, two real hardware upgrades with unclean configuration reported :)
[12:12] <elfy> knome: \o/ thanks :)
[12:12] <knome> np
[12:12] <knome> i still have that one old laptop there
[12:12] <elfy> worth more than a vbox smoketest for sure
[12:12] <knome> have to see if i have time to do install/upgrade tests with it
[12:13] <elfy> well
[12:13] <elfy> waiting for rebuild now
[12:13] <knome> yeah, not doing that *now*
[12:13] <elfy> not sure what else is being fixed elsewhere - so not triggering it manually
[12:13] <knome> in the evening or tomorrow
[12:14] <elfy> bluesabre: rebuilding - as long as you only select our stuff - that's all that gets rebuilt
[12:15] <knome> shower time, bbl
[12:15] <astraljava> Quite abstract, that knome fella.
[12:32] <knome> :)
[15:18] <ochosi> knome: i can't reproduce your problem
[15:18] <ochosi> i just installed indicator-power in vivid and the bright icon shows up just fine in my panel
[15:18] <ochosi> i can't really think of a difference between my system here and an upgraded one
[15:23] <ochosi> could it be that you have a stuck xubuntu-artwork package too or something?
[15:29] <drc> Quick question: How does one get a "indicator-power" installed in vivid, rather than just the pm-plugin?
[15:30] <Unit193> Upgrade from trusty, I think it was?
[15:31] <ochosi> drc: sudo apt-get install indicator-power --no-install-recommends
[15:32] <drc> Thanks...I missed the old one :)
[15:32] <ochosi> anyway, would be good to know if it's reproducible in a normal vivid install
[15:32] <ochosi> if it's solely an upgrade issue i'll dial down my attention to this bug
[15:35] <drc> Just added it, logged out and in...it's dark on my box...the only thing I really changed from install was upped the panel height to 32.
[15:35] <drc> now, where's the config? :)
[15:36] <ochosi> strange
[15:36] <ochosi> what config?
[15:37] <drc> One used to be able to config it olny show up when the battery was charging or discharging
[15:37] <drc> That's what I missed about the new one
[15:38] <ochosi> maybe you can configure that in indicator-power, but i'm not sure anymore
[15:38] <ochosi> if so, you'd find it in dconf-editor
[15:42] <drc> yup...change "present" to "charge"
[15:45] <drc> works as advertised..the discharging icon is light/empty batter, but the charging icon is dark.
[15:45] <ochosi> a-ha, so only the charging icon
[15:45] <ochosi> i only checked the discharging one
[15:45] <drc> I'm going to let the laptop run on battery for a while to make sure
[15:47] <drc> Can't say for sure, the icon was dark on install, but I haven't let the battery run down enough to tell for sure.
[15:47] <ochosi> nope, charging looks ok for me too
[15:48] <ochosi> (left is indicator-power) http://i.imgur.com/gftUQQp.png
[15:49] <drc> interesting...discharging = light/empty. charging = dark/full
[15:49] <drc> But the initial icon show on installed was different from both of these.
[15:50] <drc> When the battery's fully charged, I'll change the config to "present" and see what that one is
[15:54] <ochosi> bbl
[15:58] <Unit193> gmb git supports mpv backend now.
[16:58] <drc> ochosi: This is what I get when on boot https://i.imgur.com/B11qpOz.png (see the dark icon)
[16:59] <drc> ochosi: This is what I get when on battery (discharging) https://i.imgur.com/bc39Rns.png
[17:05] <drc> Both those icons are when power indicator is "present" in the dconf-editor.
[17:07] <drc> there is a third "dark icon" when present is changed to "charge" but I'm having trouble getting a screenie of it :(
[17:08] <drc> Going to let the battery run for a while....
[17:14] <drc> ochosi: and this is what I see with "charge" just after I plug the power cord back in...just before it gows away. https://i.imgur.com/A4uvy8B.png
[17:15] <drc> I don't think I'm explaining it well...any questions just ask.
[17:27] <drc> ochosi: https://i.imgur.com/A4uvy8B.png is when "battery is charging"
[17:50] <drc> https://i.imgur.com/B11qpOz.png == Charged (present)
[17:50] <drc> https://i.imgur.com/bc39Rns.png == Discharging (present)
[17:51] <drc> The log doesn't have the last image I posted but it is Charging (present)
[17:52] <elfy> logs will have it - I can see it
[17:52] <drc> I thought there was a difference in the "present" vs "charge" in the indicator-power config, but it looks like I was wrong, with "charge" the "charged" icon just goes away.
[17:52] <drc> elfy: sooner or later :)
[17:53] <drc> I was just trying to undo the confusion I wrought earlier.
[17:53] <elfy> :)
[17:54] <elfy> for what it's worth - I get the power indicator again for some reason on a desktop
[17:54] <elfy> and also it looks different - completely - if you change panel size
[17:54] <Unit193> Not xfpm plugin?
[17:55] <drc> yes <26 one icon >26 another
[17:57] <elfy> 24 here
[17:57] <elfy> Unit193: *shrug* whatever shows up in notification area, just added xfpm and that's blank
[17:58] <elfy> biab
[18:01] <drc> the funny thing is, the icons aren't even close in appearence.
[18:57] <knome> ochosi, no, i cleared all pins
[18:57] <knome> ochosi, i can look at it again later
[18:58] <Unit193> knome: Any way to give the Xubuntu packageset uploaders bzr access to xubuntu-docs?
[18:59] <knome> Unit193, good question. probably.
[19:00] <Unit193> knome: It could be done otherwise, but for example d/changelog (or other debian/* changes) or tags would be handy (micahg tagged the last upload, tags for 12.10.1 and 12.10.2 also existed.)
[19:02] <knome> weird, the doc-committers team doesn't have any team as a subteam
[19:02] <knome> and is owned by the CC
[19:08] <Unit193> (Also, fwiw LP 1299286 still exists. :P )
[19:59] <elfy> if anyone happens to notice rebuilds happening - would be good to see if it actually boots and shutsdown properly - thanks
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2015-04-21-#ubuntu-nl
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[07:41] <lotuspsychje> lordievader: ik ben mails aant rondsturen voor geschikte partner te vinden voor pc winkel
[07:41] <lotuspsychje> Beste,
[07:41] <lotuspsychje> Dit jaar ga ik starten met een linux computerwinkel en ik ben op zoek naar een partner/leverancier die mij barebone laptops, desktops en NUC's kan leveren alsook accessoires(schermen,ssd's,ram,behuizing,enz).
[07:41] <lotuspsychje> Alsook zoek ik snelle leveringen en een goede service na verkoop om mijn klanten zo goed en efficient mogelijk te kunnen verhelpen.
[07:41] <lotuspsychje> Kunnen jullie iets betekenen voor mijn bedrijf met hardware te leveren zonder MS windows en zonder harde schijf?
[07:41] <lotuspsychje> Alsook had ik graag geweten vanaf hoeveel stuks per aankoop, ik korting kan verkrijgen?
[07:41] <lotuspsychje> Ik stuur deze mail naar verschillende bedrijven om de best mogelijke partner te vinden.
[07:41] <lotuspsychje> Met vriendelijke groeten,
[07:41] <lordievader> Dat had beter via een paste kunnen gaan ;)
[07:41] <lotuspsychje> ja my bad
[07:42] <lotuspsychje> lordievader: wat vind je ervan
[07:42] <lordievader> Een paar dingen ;)
[07:43] <lotuspsychje> zeg maar
[07:43] <lordievader> Dat je snelle levering en goede service zoekt is niet nodig om te vermelden. Dat zoekt iedereen. En iedere leverancier vindt dat zij snelle en goede service leveren.
[07:43] <lotuspsychje> lordievader: ja, maar bvb coolblue.nl heeft supersnelle levering + gratis levering
[07:43] <lotuspsychje> dus nie overal idem
[07:44] <lordievader> Ik zou de zin dat je het ook naar verschillende bedrijven stuurt geheel weglaten. Is niet interresant voor hun. Kunnen ze zelf ook wel bedenken.
[07:44] <lotuspsychje> ok
[07:45] <lordievader> De opsomming laptops, desktop, etc zou ik samenvoegen tot computers en accessoires, je mailt neem ik aan naam computer leveranciers niet naar random leveranciers.
[07:46] <lotuspsychje> idd
[07:47] <lordievader> Waar ik eigenlijk op doel, probeer je eens in te denken dat een computer leverancier dit leest.
[07:47] <lordievader> Hun doelen en intresses zijn anders dan die van jou.
[07:47] <lotuspsychje> das waar, ik zal herformuleren
[14:00] <JanC> je wil ook geen "klanten verhelpen" :)
[14:00] <JanC> http://nl.wiktionary.org/wiki/verhelpen
[14:01] <jpjacobs> :)
[14:28] <mandje> shit. eindelijk met de bandschuurmachine in de weer blijkt dat ik geen reserve schuurbanden heb. weer naar de winkel. :(
[14:31] <mandje> als troost en voor het moreel maar 1 glaasje weihenstephaner genomen met wat knabbel er bij. 1e keer dak dit witbier proef. idd erg lekker. zit er van dat restgist in? even de naam kwijt. droesem? nee.
[14:31] <OerHeks> pas op met oversteken
[14:31] <lordievader> Err mandje? /me wijst naar channel... en vervolgens naar #ubuntu-nl-offtopic ;)
[14:31] <mandje> pardon. ik dacht in offtopic te zitten.
[20:14] <sarawara> ik hebeen klein probleempje
[20:15] <sarawara> mijnupgrade heeft迷津geschrift 承诺
[20:16] <sarawara> mijn upgrade heeft mijn input in het chinees gezet
[20:16] <sarawara> zucht
[20:16] <sarawara> ik wil de mogelijkheid om chinees te kunnen typen niet kwijt maar liever niet 爱死
[20:17] <sarawara> als default
[20:17] <sarawara> help！
[20:20] <JanC> sarawara: toetsenbordinstellingen?
[20:22] <sarawara> ah ok ik zoek dat
[20:23] <sarawara> 大图zegt chinese
[20:23] <sarawara> dat zegt chinees
[20:24] <sarawara> zut
[20:24] <sarawara> nu heb 超
[20:24] <sarawara> ik
[20:25] <sarawara> ‘belgian toegevoegd maar nu is mijn icon voor taalkeuse verdwenen en
[20:25] <sarawara> blijkbaar 斯塔atde default nog steeds in chinees
[20:30] <sarawara> JanC ik heb dus belgian toegevoegd maar 字体
[20:31] <sarawara> zit nog steeds in chinees en het icoontje dat mij normaal doet kiezen （ik wil chinees niet helemaal kwijt） is verdwenen
[20:34] <sarawara> Oerheks，
[20:34] <JanC> "Tekstinvoer" heet het blijkbaar en bovenste is normaal default (toch in 14.10)
[20:34] <sarawara> help
[20:34] <sarawara> ja en hoe krijg 超
[20:35] <sarawara> ik belgian vanboven？
[20:35] <JanC> en daar kan je ook die indicator aan/uitzetten
[20:35] <JanC> sarawara: pijltjes onderaan?
[20:36] <sarawara> die zijn grijs ：（
[20:37] <sarawara> oh wacht
[20:37] <sarawara> yes!!!
[20:37] <sarawara> gelukt, ik kon chinees wel doen dalen, maar belgian niet stijgen
[20:37] <JanC> heh
[20:37] <sarawara> bedankt JanC!!
[20:38] <JanC> bug melden
[20:38] <sarawara> wat een opluchting!
[20:38] <JanC> ook over de upgrade
[20:39] <sarawara> vreemd hé, was misschien omdat ik chinees pinyin als optie had (maar waarom dat dan als default aannemen?)
[20:39] <sarawara> hoe doe ik dat JanC (ik ben niet zo'n ubuntu-genie, ook al ben ik een zeer tevreden gebruiken sinds feisty )
[20:40] <sarawara> de enige reden waarom ik ubuntu kan gebruiken is omdat het eigenlijk bijna nooit problemen geeft, en als het dat wel doet, jullie mij hier altijd geholpen hebben :)
[20:42] <sarawara> ik weet niet hoe ik een bug meld JAnC
[20:42] <sarawara> JanC
If you find a bug in Ubuntu or any of its derivatives, please file a bug using the command « ubuntu-bug <package> » - See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ReportingBugs for other ways to report bugs.
[20:55] <OerHeks> ik heb ooit ook wel eens switch problemen gehad, verkeerde toetsenbord layout als standaard systemwide
[20:58] <sarawara> vreemd hé
[20:59] <sarawara> ik kon daarvoor ook al chinees typen, maar dat een upgrade dat nu ineens als default gaat zetten :D
[20:59] <sarawara> en bovendien mijn belgisch toetsenbord zelfs niet meer vermeld!
[21:01] <sarawara> Amai Oerheks, dat ziet er ingewikkeld uit om zo 's avonds na een dag lesgeven nog een account aan te maken enzo
[21:04] <OerHeks> launchpad account? ja wel handig
[21:08] <sarawara> ik probeer maar een beetje moeilijk
[21:11] <sarawara> Oerheks, ik heb het gevoel dat ik nog heel de avond moet studeren om het te snappen
[21:22] <sarawara> 't spijt me maar het lukt nie, op launchpad werkt de 'register' button niet, ik moet gaan slapen
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2015-04-21-#ubuntu-us-mi
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[13:10] <cmaloney> Good morning
[13:11] <jrwren> what is good about it?
[13:14] <cmaloney> jrwren: one day closer to the heat-death of the universe?
[13:19] <brousch> I didn't even have to use my AK
[13:23] <jrwren> i'm bitchy because my home internet is wonky
[13:23] <jrwren> anyone got a moto surfboard with comcast and can hit http://192.168.100.1/cmSignal.htm
[13:23] <jrwren> and tell me your Downstream Power Level bonding values ?
[13:23] <ColonelPanic001> GOOD MORNING MY NEIGHBORS
[13:32] <cmaloney> jrwren: WOW, so no dice here.
[13:37] <jrwren> cmaloney: I'd take wow values if its a cable modem.
[13:37] <jrwren> i'd like to know Downstream Power Level for reference
[13:38] <rick_h_> jrwren: what's on there? I don't have a surfboard but on business device but can see if there's anything else that's equiv?
[13:40] <cmaloney> jrwren: Sent screenshot.
[13:40] <jrwren> dBmV values
[13:40] <cmaloney> Yeah, I have an ARRIS modem
[13:40] <jrwren> oh, I called. known issue they are working on it and its a 1pm resolved time.
[13:41] <jrwren> I guess I'm glad they called.
[13:41] <cmaloney> nice.
[13:41] <jrwren> err, glad I called.
[13:41] <jrwren> *grumble*
[13:41] <jrwren> so weird.
[13:41] <jrwren> this IRC is working
[13:41] <jrwren> work IRC is working.
[13:41] <jrwren> I could do ssome things for work
[13:41] <jrwren> but, I can't open lean kit :(
[13:41] <rick_h_> heh
[13:41] <rick_h_> ssh work?
[13:41] <jrwren> gmail is intermitent
[13:41] <rick_h_> e.g. can you tunnel through guimaas?
[13:41] <jrwren> rick_h_: yes, I sshed to your house successfully :)
[13:42] <jrwren> rick_h_: hrm. great question.
[13:42] * jrwren tries
[13:42] <cmaloney> That'd be hilarious / sad that it's not the connection but some bullshit they're doing on non-encrypted traffic.
[13:42] <cmaloney> (assuming IRC is using SASL)
[13:43] <jrwren> WOW! that works.
[13:43] <jrwren> which makes ZERO sense.
[13:43] <rick_h_> jrwren: :/
[13:43] <cmaloney> And my bullshit theory suddenly got plausible.
[13:45] <jrwren> cmaloney: whoa, you may be right.
[13:45] <jrwren> cmaloney: work irc is definitely encrypted.
[13:45] <jrwren> cmaloney: but the weird part is that i couldn't establish new ssl connections
[13:46] <jrwren> and it is somewhat localized. rick_h comcast odesn't have the problem :(
[13:47] <cmaloney> Well, to be fair, I'm pretty sure rick_h_'s internet bits scare away any attempts to tamper with them
[14:35] <Sponge> quick question: is this chat for any level ubuntu user?
[14:35] <waldo323> Yes
[14:46] <cmaloney> Sponge: Absolutely.
[15:49] <greg-g> cmaloney: http://diffuser.fm/u2-songs-of-innocence-tool-opiate-record-store-day/
[15:49] <cmaloney> That. Is... awesome. :)
[15:50] <cmaloney> I can see why U2 fans feel shortchanged getting a Tool EP instead of their U2 album. They normally get four tools for the price of one .
[15:50] <cmaloney> — Jeremy Allen (@jeres) April 19, 2015
[15:51] <greg-g> :) :)
[15:56] <cmaloney> Anyone else have their Diskstations suddenly go incommunicado after a while?
[16:03] <brousch> diskstation?
[16:11] <cmaloney> Synology
[16:32] <greg-g> cmaloney: more details please :)
[16:33] <jrwren> alright, this is really fucked. So I go to coffee shop, VPN home and my itunes playing from home server NAS is less choppy than it was at home. Maybe my wifi router is dying at home?
[16:33] <greg-g> huh
[16:35] <jrwren> weirdest network issues I've ever had.
[17:06] <brousch> cmaloney: Actually my NAS has done that twice in the last year. I never did figure out why
[17:15] <Sponge> SWEET
[17:16] <_stink_> ..
[17:31] <cscheib> jrwren: change your wifi channel? ensure there're no sources of interference, like microwaves... you'll probably have to get a wifi analyzer (there're a few trials) to figure out what part of the spectrum is most unused
[17:32] <jrwren> cscheib: its 5Ghz shouldn't be interverence.
[17:32] <rick_h_> cscheib: and it works better with a tunnel so not likely to be the wifi side
[17:33] <cscheib> rick_h_: I mean his wifi at home.
[17:34] <cscheib> unless the choppiness is occurring on wired at home, which would be odd
[17:34] <rick_h_> my bad /me missed the update from the coffee shop
[17:34] <jrwren> unsure about the choppiness in audio on wifi
[17:34] <jrwren> but the crazy internet issues do occur on wired and wifi
[17:34] <cscheib> jrwren: 5Ghz is still an unlicensed spectrum
[17:34] <jrwren> sure
[17:35] <jrwren> and in my neighborhood where the houses are reasonably far appart, there should be no bleed over in teh 5Ghz range
[17:35] <cscheib> you may also need to enable (or disable) the wider channels
[17:35] <jrwren> that said, I'll fire up a wlaninfo on my wifes windows laptop and see what I can see
[17:35] <jrwren> the thing is, its worked wonderfully for a year until yesterday
[17:36] <jrwren> so unless that AP is dying, no setting changed
[17:36] <jrwren> or a enighbor really did bring up some new 5Ghz and is fucking with my signal. :(
[20:37] <mrgoodcat> my new favorite link shortener http://www.shadyurl.com/
[20:37] <mrgoodcat> Don't just shorten your URL, make it suspicious and frightening.
[20:46] <cmaloney> heh
[22:23] <rick_h_> <3 my team http://writing.drab-makyo.com/posts/tech/2015/04/21/done-vs-finished/
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2015-04-21-#ubuntu-pt
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[02:42] <astroo-> ciao pessoal
[20:45] <astroo-> ola pessoal
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2015-04-21-#ubuntu-cl
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[20:41] * tochi o/
[20:41] <tochi> español?
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[03:25] <bwmaker> Arch is evil.
[03:30] <Unit193> Haha. ;D
[03:30] <Unit193> What?
[03:48] <bwmaker> A friend recommended that if I really wanted to learn linux from an admin/engineer point of view, install Arch on bare metal. I probably shouldn't have started at 8PM. :)
[03:49] <bwmaker> I've done it before, but now, during install, it's only wanting to mount my root partition as read-only.
[03:49] <Unit193> wrst says he can get it done in half an hour.
[03:49] <bwmaker> :-|
[03:50] <Unit193> Of course, when you break something and have to re-install every week that'll do it. ;)
[03:51] <bwmaker> lol
[03:52] <bwmaker> Yeah, I can see how it can make you faster and improve one's 1337 h4x0r skillz.
[03:54] <Unit193> (he doesn't actually re-install every week, but he's done it a few times.)
[03:58] <bwmaker> Welp... apparently it's not good for me to be working on this late at night. I was trying to mount sd1 instead of sda1. Problem solved. Not Arches fault.
[19:59] <bwmaker> Afternoon, folks.
[19:59] <Unit193> Howdy.
[20:16] <bwmaker> How's it going, Unit193?
[20:19] <Unit193> I'm alive? Had to fix a patch that uses ^M line endings. >_<
[20:19] <Unit193> You?
[20:27] <bwmaker> Good. Testing out some time based events... which can only be scheduled on 15 minute intervals, so that can easily eat up a lot of time.
[20:27] <bwmaker> It's been a long day. :)
[20:28] <Unit193> Tried out Manjaro and Void in a VM last night, both Xfce versions.
[20:29] <bwmaker> Unit193: Void's a new one on me. Another package manager, though? Really?
[20:29] <bwmaker> :)
[20:30] <bwmaker> Don't we have plenty?
[20:31] <Unit193> Clearly not! Another!
[20:31] <bwmaker> "its package manager and build system have been written from scratch."
[20:33] <Unit193> Yeeeep. Uses LibreSSL though.
[20:34] <bwmaker> ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
[20:47] <bwmaker> I did Arch installed last night, but my lan adapter isn't working. I followed the instructions for the dhcpcd service, but doesn't seem to want to work. going to dig into that tonight.
[21:09] <wrst> Unit193: I can do it to a working gnome in 30 minutes after doing it a few times
[21:09] <wrst> I beat my head on a wall for half a day first go around with it :)
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ubuntu-chat
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2024-05-13T22:11:10.657444
| 2015-04-21T00:00:00 |
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2015-04-10-#ubuntu-ir
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[15:31] <relsi1053> :D yani ye bar nemishe adam biyad inja
[15:31] <relsi1053> ye adam zende dige ham bashe inja
[15:31] * MortezaE is a live human
[15:32] <MortezaE> * an alive
[15:32] <relsi1053> oh my god
[15:32] <relsi1053> :D
[15:32] <MortezaE> سلام :)
[15:33] <MortezaE> روز خوش
[15:33] <relsi1053> درود :D الان دیگه فکر کنم شب شده باشه ها
[15:33] <relsi1053> جوری که قبلا توی داستان ها راجب کانای های
[15:33] <relsi1053> irc
[15:33] <relsi1053> میخوندم این روزا دیگه شکلشو به کل از دست داده نه؟
[15:34] * MortezaE is a khafan programmer, codes in underground all of the day
[15:34] <MortezaE> چه داستانهایی؟
[15:35] <relsi1053> relsi1053 is a noob c++ programer
[15:35] <MortezaE> خب اینجا معمولا گپ نمیزنن
[15:35] <relsi1053> چیکار میکنن پس؟
[15:35] <relsi1053> مشکل بیان میکنن؟
[15:35] <MortezaE> اما چنلهایی هستن که گرم تر و شلوغ تر باشه
[15:35] <MortezaE> اینجا خیلی خلوته و گاهی یه رهگذری میاد و میره
[15:35] <relsi1053> ایرانی؟
[15:36] <MortezaE> بله
[15:36] <MortezaE> شما؟
[15:36] <relsi1053> اسم کانالشو بهم میگی؟
[15:36] <relsi1053> امین هستم
[15:36] <MortezaE> آها نه ایرانی نه
[15:36] <relsi1053> خب همین دیگه
[15:36] <MortezaE> فکر کردم شما خارجی هه هه
[15:36] <relsi1053> خخخخخ نه بابا
[15:36] <MortezaE> خوشوقتم
[15:36] <relsi1053> یه زمانی که تازه داشتم با لینوکس اشنا میشدم
[15:36] <relsi1053> شدیدا به همچین جاهایی نیاز داشتم که شلوغ باشه
[15:36] <relsi1053> ولی هیچ وقت ممکن نشد
[15:37] <relsi1053> منم خوشبختم مرتضی جان
[15:37] <MortezaE> امیدوارم منم به زودی خوشبخت شم 3>
[15:37] <MortezaE> آره همین پنج شش سال پیش اینجا یه حال و هوای بهتری داشت
[15:38] <relsi1053> :D واسم باور پذیر نیست
[15:38] <relsi1053> منم واست امیدوارم
[15:38] <relsi1053> خخخخخ
[15:38] <MortezaE> مرسی :)
[15:39] <MortezaE> چن وقته سی پلاس کار میکنی؟
[15:39] <relsi1053> راستش من یکم دیوونه کاری کردم
[15:39] <relsi1053> اول رفتم سراغ پایتون
[15:39] <relsi1053> واسه حل مسائل
[15:39] <relsi1053> :)) بعد المپیاد کامپیوتر رفتم مرحله دوم
[15:39] <relsi1053> سی پلاس پلاس نیاز بود واسش
[15:40] <relsi1053> نشستم سی پلاس پلاس یاد گرفتم ولی کافی نبود
[15:40] <MortezaE> آها زنده باد
[15:40] <relsi1053> این شد که بالا نرفتم ولی افتادم دنبالش
[15:40] <relsi1053> حد من معمولیه
[15:40] <MortezaE> که این طور..
[15:40] <MortezaE> زنده باشید
[15:40] <relsi1053> چنتا دنبالهو برنامه معمولی بلدم بنویسم
[15:40] <relsi1053> جهت فان
[15:40] <MortezaE> مثلا با ST آشنایی کامل داری دیگه؟
[15:40] <relsi1053> ممنون
[15:41] <MortezaE> * STL
[15:41] <relsi1053> فک کنم
[15:41] <MortezaE> boost
[15:41] <relsi1053> حالا فک نکنم
[15:41] <relsi1053> :)))
[15:41] <MortezaE> سی پلاس بدون STL ینی C :))
[15:42] <MortezaE> و با boost ینی ++++C
[15:42] <MortezaE> ;)
[15:42] <relsi1053> :D
[15:42] <relsi1053> یه سرچ بزنم جریانو بگیرم اول
[15:43] <MortezaE> آره بابا شما که دنبال برنامه نویسی و ظاهرا acm و این چیزا هستی حتما پیگیر باش
[15:43] <relsi1053> :D کلا پیگیر هستم ولی راهنماهو اینا
[15:44] <relsi1053> نداشتم هیچ وقت راهو گرفتم رفتم همینطور
[15:44] <MortezaE> همه تنهاییم
[15:44] <MortezaE> یه مرد
[15:44] <MortezaE> همیشه تنهاست :((
[15:44] <relsi1053> :D هرچند بی ارزش اما تایید میکنم
[15:45] <relsi1053> تنهایی ولی هیچ وقت خوب نیست
[15:45] <MortezaE> When the snows fall and the white winds blow, the lone wolf dies but the pack survives.
[15:46] <MortezaE> آقا خوشحال شدم
[15:46] <MortezaE> فعلا با اجازه. موفق باشی
[15:46] <relsi1053> ممنون
[15:46] <relsi1053> :D واسه اون گرگه هم ارزوی موفقیت میکنم
[15:47] <MortezaE> اون گرگه مرده... دیگه نیست زنده :(
[15:47] <relsi1053> :)
[15:47] <relsi1053> :(
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ubuntu-chat
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2024-05-13T22:11:10.671643
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2015-04-10-#ubuntu-se
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[00:23] <emma> hallo
[00:23] <emma> anyone awake here?
[00:34] <Linda^> nopp
[00:39] <senate> :)
[04:21] <emma> Linda^: hi :)
[04:21] <emma> senate: hi :)
[06:13] <HeMan> cowbacon: jag kör det också
[06:13] <HeMan> cowbacon: har kört lxc något tag och börjat tittat på docker nu
[07:46] <Barre> HeMan/andol: jobbat nått med RoCE? om så, har du några bra källor till vad man skall tänka på?
[08:14] <andol> Barre: Nix
[08:14] <andol> Barre: Låter som ful-infiniband? :)
[08:20] <Barre> andol: lite så är det
[08:24] <HeMan> Barre: det enda jag gjort var att hjälpa till i ett projekt som körde RoCE på Infinibandkort som kördes i ethernet-läge...
[08:24] <HeMan> Barre: dvs ful-infiniband över fin-infiniband
[08:24] <Barre> HeMan: ok, men varför skulle man vilja göra så?
[08:24] <HeMan> Barre: för att utvecklare inte förstår RDMA...
[08:25] <Barre> ok
[08:25] <HeMan> Barre: sen ville de ha utrustningen i olika byggnader och var tvungen att köra long distance ib och då blev det hela väldigt märkligt...
[08:29] <Barre> HeMan: long distance IB, hur långt är långt? pratar vi 100-tals meter, KM eller Mil?
[08:30] <HeMan> Barre: längsta är mil
[08:30] <Barre> ok, grymt.. Tack HeMan !
[08:30] <HeMan> Barre: fast den eländiga konstanten ljusets hastighet inte din vän då det gäller latens...
[08:37] <Barre> HeMan: givetvis, men vi är ute efter att skala så mycket som möjligt av overhead
[08:38] <HeMan> Barre: finns det någon riktig anledning till att inte köra "vanlig" infiniband?
[08:40] <Barre> HeMan: nej, men samtliga teknologier skall utvärderas.
[08:40] <HeMan> Barre: ah!
[09:19] <andol> Barre: Tittat någe på Omni-Path?
[09:21] <andol> (Intels framtida utvecklingsplaner för att bygga vidare/ersätta Truescale.)
[09:24] <hume> hejsan... nån här som kan hjälpa mig förstå om min openconnect VPN fungerar som den ska? Jag lyckas inte koppla upp en win-share när jag har den igång
[09:36] <Barre> andol: nope
[09:38] <andol> Barre: Satt med på ett säljsamtal från Intel, och även om man då förstås får vara lite skeptisk till siffror etc så verkar det utan tvekan som att de har ambitioner och planer för Omni-Path.
[09:42] <Barre> andol: ok, skal kolla det
[13:53] <NeverW8> Fredag va?
[13:54] * NeverW8 tar en prilla och lutar sig tillbaka bredvid det öppna fönstret med en kopp kaffe i handen
[13:54] <NeverW8> *fredag*
[15:25] <cowbacon> Fredag!
[16:57] <smygIG> Hej Hej :) nån som är bra på WOL?
[19:34] <Porrhandske> God kväll på er alla
[22:07] <emma> Hallo
[22:07] <emma> Anyone here awake?
[22:28] <Philip5> yupp
[22:52] <ePax> mmm
[23:00] <emma> oh good hi :)
[23:00] <emma> Philip5: do you like movies?
[23:10] <Philip5> emma: ehem... why? and well yes
[23:11] <Philip5> emma: don't you speak swedish in a swedish ubuntu channel? ;)
[23:15] <Linda^> Philip5: Jag tror på en bot!
[23:16] <Philip5> Linda^: eller ditt alterego ;)
[23:16] <senate> boten heter ju anna!
[23:16] <senate> inte emma
[23:16] <senate> :]
[23:16] <Philip5> Linda^: vad sitter du uppe och gör när du nattsuddar?
[23:20] <Linda^> Philip5: Jag.. nattsuddar.
[23:20] <Linda^> :D
[23:20] <Linda^> senate: Det var version 1. Emma är en uppgraderad version.
[23:21] <Philip5> Linda^: du sitter uppe och tittar på avsnitt efter avsnitt av dokussåpan Ex on the beach Sverige
[23:22] <Philip5> Linda^: erkänn nu när du är bland vänner ;)
[23:22] <Linda^> Philip5: Jag vet inte vad ex on the beach är, men det låter väl bra :D
[23:22] <Philip5> typ som paradise hotell
[23:23] <Linda^> Jaha
[23:23] <Linda^> Men visst, vi kör på!
[23:23] <Philip5> ett gäng mediakåta ungdomar som supper och ska para ihop sig och bo tillsammans i olika rum
[23:23] <Linda^> låter som kungarna av tylösand
[23:23] <Linda^> fast dom låg väl aldrig med varann tror jag
[23:23] <Philip5> och har fullt upp med att verka balla inför varandra och tv-kamerorna
[23:23] <Philip5> här liggs det
[23:23] <Linda^> Kanske skulle regga mig till ett sånt program
[23:24] <Linda^> så man får ligga nån gång
[23:24] <Linda^> haha
[23:24] <Philip5> men det fantastiskt kreativa och nyskapande med den här serien är att de tydligen sedan ska kasta in deras ex i spelet sedan där det ska paras ihop och grejas
[23:24] <Philip5> du hör vad spännande det låter
[23:24] <Linda^> ojoj
[23:24] <Philip5> och alla som är med är typ raketforskare och hjärnkirurger
[23:24] <Linda^> då äre kört för mig
[23:24] <Linda^> jag har ju inget ex
[23:24] <Philip5> minst
[23:25] <Linda^> eller jo, ett, men han är väl gift eller nåt med typ två kids
[23:25] <Philip5> du får skaffa ett ex så du kan vara med
[23:25] <Linda^> Vill du va mitt ex så jag får va med?
[23:25] <Philip5> så måste du gilla taturerade killar som har varit på gymmet för att se extra deffade och kralliga ut inför inspelningen
[23:26] <Philip5> jag skulle inte palla att umgås med sådana där människor
[23:26] <Philip5> om du inte har silikonbröst redan så måste du nog nästan skaffa för att passa in i programmet
[23:28] <senate> Linda^: :)
[23:28] <senate> linda är v3.0 då?
[23:33] <Linda^> Va, så drar han
[23:33] <Linda^> vilket as!
[23:33] <Linda^> senate: Jag är Linda, ingen jävla version va :P
[23:36] <senate> :D
[23:39] <Linda^> Hur är läget med senate då?
[23:46] <senate> öroninflammation + öroninfektion
[23:46] <senate> :(
[23:46] <senate> så kunde väl varit bättre
[23:46] <senate> själv då?
[23:47] <Linda^> senate: Men gud vad mysigt det lät
[23:48] <Linda^> Här är det väl fint, typ.. sitter och kör lite nattpass. Kanske inte det trevliaste, så det HADE kunnat vara bättre här med, beroende på hur man ser på det:P
[23:53] <senate> njae det är lite småjobbigt.. men läker väl så småningom
[23:54] <senate> trist att jobba nu, jag kan iaf ligga på soffan och ta de lugnt
[23:54] <Linda^> lyx :P
[23:55] <Linda^> senate: Var bor du nu för tiden? Har typ alltid för mig att du blivit asiat på heltid eller nåt :P
[23:56] <senate> jag är hemma i sverige nu
[23:56] <senate> jag bor 50/50 här och i indonesien ungefär
[23:56] <Linda^> oj
[23:56] <Linda^> hur orkar du det?
[23:56] <senate> blev 5,5mån där förra året
[23:56] <senate> hur jag orkar sverige? bra fråga :)
[23:56] <Linda^> haha
[23:57] <senate> hade gärna stannat där nere på heltid. men inte så lätt att tjäna pengar där nere
[23:57] <senate> så får åka hit och slava ibland
[23:57] <Linda^> hur kommer det sig då? Varför indonesien?
[23:58] <senate> började med att jag åkte dit för att hälsa på en kompis
[23:58] <senate> sen kom det in sånadär fruntimmer i bilden
[23:58] <senate> :)
[23:58] <Linda^> haha
[23:58] <Linda^> och sen ba "här ska jag bo"
[23:58] <Linda^> du får väl importera henne som alla andra svenskar gör med asiater :P
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ubuntu-chat
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2024-05-13T22:11:10.718532
| 2015-04-10T00:00:00 |
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"hume",
"senate",
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2015-04-10-#ubuntu-ru
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[06:07] <stanley_tweedle> Как получить загрузку сетевой карты в данный момент с терминала? желательно в процентах
[08:31] <artemz> stanley_tweedle: в atop есть
[12:25] <dominis> Дамы и господа, всем привет. Кто-то может помочь с проблемой? Убунту 14.04 после апгрейда пакетов не могу залогиниться через иксы. Если загружаюсь через рекавери-мод, то под рутом нормально захожу, могу переключиться в своего юзера и запустить иксы. Вс
[12:25] <dominis> ё работает :(
[14:10] <Mate_> привет
[14:11] <Mate_> ребята, нужна помощь по восстановлению убунты, чёрный, абсолютно чёрный экран, все дела, есть альтруисты?
[14:23] <SergeyIT> когда он черным стал?
[16:19] <aleksei`> вечера
[18:19] <Anton2d> чёрный это не то что синий, это сложнее.
[18:19] <Anton2d> Чем чернее тем ниже температура, тем ближе к абсолютно чёрному телу.
[18:21] <Anton2d> К смерти, безысходности, концу всему начал. Даже движение молекул может остановиться, и тогда всё - абсолютный трындец.
[18:49] <GuardCat> !help
[18:49] <ubuntuhelp> Привет, я любимый инфобот канала #ubuntu-ru, Как меня использовать? Просто напишите: ![ls/mc/man/fdisk] или ![ATI/nVidia/etc] вот так. Внимание, чтобы не залететь в игнор/бан, используйте ПРИВАТ и !search [ATI/nVidia/etc] см: http://ubuntuhelp.org.ru/
[18:49] <GuardCat> !ls
[18:49] <ubuntuhelp> ls (dir, vdir) — команда Unix-подобной операционной системы, которое выводит (обычно на консоль) содержимое каталога (по умолчанию текущего).
[18:49] <GuardCat> !mc
[18:49] <ubuntuhelp> Midnight Commander (mc) уникальный двухпанельный менеджер с всеми необходимыми возможностями по серфингу по локальным файловым системам, ftp, smb, ssh ресурсам, по установке прав, редактированию текстовых конфигов.
[18:50] <GuardCat> !fdisk
[18:50] <ubuntuhelp> fdisk — общее название системных утилит для управления разделами жёсткого диска. Инфо: man fdisk
[20:30] <mad_> ребята кто поможет по кубунте?
[20:30] <Sergey_IT1> !ask
[20:30] <ubuntuhelp> Не спрашивайте, можно ли спросить, «есть ли живые», «кто-нибудь использовал» и т.п. Просто спрашивайте. Если кто-нибудь знает — Вам ответят. Если никто не отвечает — значит, возможно, никто не знает, или все спят.
[20:32] <mad_> вылазиет ошибка при установке пакета
[20:32] <mad_> скрин могу отправить
[20:32] <Sergey_IT1> если отправлять, то на форум
[20:34] <Sergey_IT1> по тексту ошибки надо искать
[20:35] <mad_> сейчас
[20:37] <mad_> данные не могут быть получены или обработаны ttf-mscorefonts-installer
[20:38] <mad_> вот такая фигня
[20:40] <Sergey_IT1> с лицензией диалог появляется?
[20:40] <mad_> не понял вопроса
[20:41] <mad_> вылазает сведения об обновлении
[20:41] <Sergey_IT1> запустил синаптик, попросил поставить твой пакет, скачался, появился диалог с лицензией, надо согласиться чтобы дальше пошло
[20:42] <mad_> такого не было
[20:42] <Sergey_IT1> как ставил?
[20:42] <mad_> ща поробую
[20:42] <mad_> вайн сам ставил
[20:42] <mad_> я уже не помню
[20:43] <mad_> с вайном вроде прилипло
[20:47] <mad_> переустановил через синаптик вроде прокатило
[20:47] <mad_> спасибо
[20:49] <Sergey_IT1> незачто
[20:50] <mad_> было бы незачто не говорил бы спасибо))
[20:51] <Sergey_IT1> кончай флудить то, а то щас нас как забанят (
[20:51] <mad_> ок
[20:51] <Sergey_IT1> скушно
[20:53] <mad_> не знаешь как сделать чтоб чат при запуске в трей сворачивался?
[20:55] <Sergey_IT1> не знаю, от клиента зависит
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ubuntu-chat
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2024-05-13T22:11:10.734947
| 2015-04-10T00:00:00 |
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"Anton2d",
"GuardCat",
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"mad_",
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2015-04-10-#launchpad-dev
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[11:08] <cjwatson> wgrant: I'm giving up on the StormRangeFactory bit for now. I do actually now have something that appears to work - haven't tried with launchpadlib, but the next_collection_link entries have elaborate-looking memos with full dates in them. The tricky bit is that it breaks if you pass the "wrong" parameters, because e.g. BPN isn't in the resultset so SRF can't cope with a resultset ordered by BPN, and at the moment I'm inserting the ...
[11:08] <cjwatson> ... range factory in the interface so it doesn't get to be parameter-sensitive.
[11:08] <cjwatson> Maybe this is fixable with a DecoratedResultSet or something, but I've run past the end of my timebox for this.
[11:10] <cjwatson> I'll just push up something today that implements order_by_date without that.
[11:11] <wgrant> cjwatson: I think launchpadlib is a bit magical, since it supports slicing.
[11:12] <wgrant> But yeah, SRF for the default sort order is awkward.
[11:12] <wgrant> (and pointless, since it can't be sorted by an index)
[11:19] <cjwatson> Ooh, I hadn't noticed launchpadlib.testing.launchpad before.
[11:19] <cjwatson> Should probably convert cdimage to that.
[11:19] <cjwatson> (It has a much less general version of the same idea)
[12:51] <cjwatson> wgrant: Is binarypackagepublishinghistory__archive__datecreated__id__idx on dogfood yours? It's not in database/schema/.
[12:56] <cjwatson> wgrant: And I assume it would need to be created concurrently (and live)?
[14:50] <stub> It doesn't exist on production
[14:50] <stub> cjwatson: ^
[15:27] <rgammon51_> I am up to date today on Ubuntu 15.04 with all updates applied
[15:27] <rgammon51_> My issue is with nfs server
[15:28] <rgammon51_> There are NO messages on the mount -a, exportfs, server restart
[15:28] <rgammon51_> and showmount shows no messages - no exports
[15:29] <jpds> rgammon51_: Surely this is a question for #ubuntu-server ?
[15:29] <rgammon51_> No this is Desktop, not server
[15:30] <mapreri> rgammon51_: then this is a question for #ubuntu, but surely not for this channel
[15:30] <rgammon51_> I am an individual working on my own computrers, not for abusiness
[15:30] <rgammon51_> launcpad, said this one
[15:31] <mapreri> rgammon51_: this is for development of the launchpad service itself, not for project hosted there
[15:34] <cjwatson> stub: thanks
[15:40] <cjwatson> wgrant: I'm seriously tempted to not bother making a separate class for GitMergeProposal at all and just teach BranchMergeProposal to handle both, notwithstanding the confusing name. It'd need to gain a few columns for source/target/dependent GitRef instead of Branch and for commit OIDs instead of revnos, and some complicated constraints to make sure that you can't mix-and-match, and the UI would need to use different macros to ...
[15:40] <cjwatson> ... render revisions etc. But it's that or clone-and-hacking a huge pile of both DDL and code, only to need similar branch-or-ref stuff in all the tables that refer to BMP; having started to write out all the DDL, I'm not sure the latter approach actually gains us much.
[15:40] <cjwatson> That is, although we have an Asana task to split out a base class, I think we might be better off just having the same class handle both.
[15:44] <cjwatson> I admit that widening 200000-odd BMP columns might be interesting. I'm not sure that should force the design though.
[16:02] <cjwatson> Maybe not a problem since the new columns wouldn't have defaults.
[16:12] <cjwatson> wgrant: The decision to use (repository, path) as a natural primary key for GitRef makes it really inconvenient to reference it as an FK in other tables. Maybe we should rearrange that to have a normal id.
[23:11] <wgrant> cjwatson: BMP very explicitly must not use an FK to GitRef.
[23:11] <wgrant> cjwatson: Since refs will be deleted, while MPs must not.
[23:12] <wgrant> cjwatson: (oops, yes, that index was mine. got distracted writing that big reply so forgot to delete it)
[23:12] <wgrant> cjwatson: Widening BMP isn't an issue, as it's a small table and reasonably sensibly bounded. And it's already very wide.
[23:13] <wgrant> cjwatson: I'm all for reusing the table if you think it'll be more efficient. In fact I think it was you that convinced me not to, after your experience with not being able to share much code with your initial work. So go ahead.
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"cjwatson",
"jpds",
"mapreri",
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"stub",
"wgrant"
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"channel": "#launchpad-dev"
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2015-04-10-#ubuntu-mozillateam
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[11:16] <sturmflut-work> I just noticed that in my setup here (Firefox 37.0 on Ubuntu 15.04) the default Ubuntu "about:startpage" appears in different languages today. So far I got Turkish and Danish besides the usual English. Any ideas?
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ubuntu-chat
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"authors": [
"sturmflut-work"
],
"url": "https://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2015/04/10/%23ubuntu-mozillateam.txt",
"channel": "#ubuntu-mozillateam"
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2015-04-10-#ubuntu-it
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[05:59] <akis24> giorno
[10:08] <reb7> salve a tutti, chi mi può dare una mano in pvt un secondo? sono un pò inesperta
[10:32] <b00k3r> giorno
[10:49] <krabador> salve b00k3r
[10:57] <ViCe95> Salve, ho problemi con rtcwake e cron
[10:59] <b00k3r> salve krabador
[12:14] <mnemonik> formatto le pennette, le monto, ma poi quando provo a smontarle mi segnala un errore... riesco a smontarle solo come superuser... non riesco a capire dove ho sbagliato... sono su Xubuntu 14.04... http://pastebin.com/PAzqqVUb
[12:47] <ViCe95> Salve ho problemi con rtcwake e cron
[12:53] <ViCe95> Salve ho problemi con rtcwake e cron
[12:53] <Matt_91> ViCe95, puoi entrare più indettaglio?
[12:55] <ViCe95> Matt_91: crontab funziona, rtcwake funziona però se inserisco un rtcwake nel file crontab non funziona
[13:04] <ViCe95> Matt_91: novità?
[13:17] <ViCe95>
[14:10] <ViCe95> Salve ho problemi con rtcwake e cron
[14:10] <ViCe95> crontab funziona, rtcwake funziona però se inserisco un rtcwake nel file crontab non funziona
[14:42] <Matt_91> ViCe95, scusa ma ero andato via :)
[14:42] <Matt_91> ViCe95, che gli metti in cron?
[14:42] <ViCe95> Matt_91: ma oggi il canale è deserto?
[14:43] <ViCe95> Matt_91: questo 49 15 * * * rtcwake -m mem -l -t $(date +%s -d 'tomorrow 08:00')
[15:35] <akis24> sera
[15:36] <vinz34> Buongiorno ragazzi Vorrei chiedervi una cosa ho questa situazione ho una partizione C:(windows 8) e una partizione D:(allocazione dati). VOrrei utilizzare la NTFS di allocazione dati per installarci ubuntu 14.04 vorrei fare il tutto automatico senza configurare il grub o grub 2 ossia semplicemente aggiungendo la voce ubuntu al boot in modo automatico ?
[15:37] <vinz34> come posso fare?
[15:39] <akis24> vinz34: hai bios uefi ?
[15:39] <vinz34> Ossia?
[15:40] <akis24> !uefi | vinz34
[15:40] <ubot-it> vinz34: UEFI è una specifica che definisce una interfaccia software tra un sistema operativo e le piattaforme firmware, è intesa come un sostituto del BIOS. Per informazioni su come impostare e installare Ubuntu su macchine UEFI vedi http://wiki.ubuntu-it.org/Installazione/UEFI | vedi anche https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UEFI
[15:40] <vinz34> No
[15:40] <vinz34> non ce l ho è un pc vecchio
[15:41] <akis24> vinz34: posta schermata di gparted se sei da live
[15:41] <vinz34> no
[15:41] <vinz34> sono su Winz8
[15:41] <vinz34> vedo di scaricarlo
[15:41] <akis24> vinz34: perfetto scarica e poi se ne riparla
[15:42] <vinz34> akis24 intanto ti ringrazio per l aiuto.
[15:43] <akis24> di nulla vinz34 quando finisci di scaricare creati un disco live o usb e poi vediamo cosa fare
[15:43] <vinz34> ho un dvd 14.04
[15:44] <akis24> vinz34: va benissimo poi avvii dal dvd e entri di nuovo qui
[15:45] <vinz34> addio! la connessione è troppo lenta...Gparted è gia preintallato nella live?
[15:47] <akis24> vinz34: si di solito è presente
[15:47] <vinz34> A tra poco XD
[16:07] <vinz34> eccomi akis24 http://imagebin.ca/v/1xrmR93Nvssq
[16:09] <akis24> vinz34: hai installato tu win8 sul pc ?
[16:09] <vinz34> no
[16:10] <akis24> vinz34: era preinstallato ?
[16:11] <vinz34> akis24 l ho trovato cosi il pc [ di un mio parente che mi ha chiesto di venire a casa sua a installare ubuntu il pc e del 2000/2005 max
[16:11] <vinz34> non penso quindi sia preistallato
[16:15] <akis24> vinz34: apri un terminale e dai sudo -s e successivamente dai fdisk -l e metti su paste
[16:15] <akis24> !paste | vinz34
[16:15] <ubot-it> vinz34: http://paste.ubuntu.com/ servizio che permette di incollare lunghi output senza intasare il canale; incollare il testo, indicare il nick, premere paste e postare in canale l'indirizzo della pagina
[16:15] <vinz34> akis24 grazie
[16:15] <akis24> di cosa ?
[16:17] <vinz34> del sito mi ero dimenticato , comunque http://pastebin.com/Cc8ZKirS
[16:18] <vinz34> Ho sbagliato momento!
[16:18] <akis24> vinz34: devi postarmi il link della pagina con il risultato del comando
[16:18] <vinz34> si c e un comando incolla col doppio click un po strano
[16:19] <vinz34> http://pastebin.com/LGcKamKz
[16:19] <vinz34> perdonami ;D
[16:26] <vinz34> http://pastebin.com/LGcKamKz akis24
[16:29] <akis24> vinz34: si visto hai tre partizioni non due come dicevi prima quale sarebbe la partizione dati ?
[16:30] <vinz34> da windows lo vedevo meglio qui ho dei dubbi c era la C; e D; la D; era di allocazione dati dove dovevo instlalare ubuntu
[16:31] <akis24> vinz34: se guardi gparted come vedi sono tre mi sembra chiaro ..
[16:31] <vinz34> si
[16:31] <vinz34> La partizione dove installare UBUntu sarebbe Sda3
[16:31] <vinz34> IN TEORIA
[16:32] <vinz34> si Sda3
[16:33] <akis24> vinz34: io ti consiglierei di ridimensionare la sda3 che contiene qualcosa comunque per sicurezza e poi ne crei una logica estesa sullo spazio vuoto che resta e li si creano le partizioni necessarie a ubuntu
[16:34] <vinz34> akis24 purtroppo non ti ho capito
[16:34] <vinz34> dimmi in numeri io eseguo
[16:35] <vinz34> tutto cio che sta su SDA3 deve essere cancellato Ho il backup.
[16:36] <akis24> vinz34: quanta ram ha il pc ?
[16:36] <vinz34> al massimo lo swap ma non ricordo nemmeno comunque tornando al concetto
[16:36] <vinz34> ecco non lo so...
[16:37] <akis24> vinz34: sul terminale dai free e posta il risultato
[16:38] <vinz34> http://pastebin.com/DxSAJVKp akis24
[16:38] <akis24> vinz34: 2 giga di ram
[16:39] <vinz34> ok
[16:41] <akis24> vinz34: sai usare gparted ?
[16:41] <vinz34> qualke rimembranza
[16:42] <vinz34> comunque cancello sda3 e metto 8 gb di wap
[16:42] <vinz34> e il resto ext4
[16:42] <akis24> vinz34: 2 giga bastano .. inutile metterne 8
[16:44] <vinz34> ok ho cancellato ora devo creare una nuova ext4 primary partition`giusto
[16:44] <vinz34> non ho il punto interrogativo XD
[16:45] <akis24> vinz34: io non vedo quello che fai comunque prosegui a creare le partizioni
[16:45] <akis24> vinz34: una di swap e almeno una / con filesystem ext4 se poi posti gli screen è meglio
[16:47] <vinz34> http://ibin.co/1xryLXaMjImI
[16:48] <akis24> vinz34: una di swap sullo psazio vuoto e poi applica le modifiche ..
[16:48] <akis24> spazio*
[16:48] <vinz34> primaria ext4 ora [punto interrogativo]
[16:49] <vinz34> ok
[16:49] <vinz34> la swap e' logica giusto
[16:50] <akis24> vinz34: la swap è swap e basta quando hai finito posta screen
[16:51] <vinz34> ho messo primary http://ibin.co/1xrzkeKj3a5p
[16:52] <vinz34> a tt e 2
[16:53] <akis24> vinz34: prova a cliccare sulla letta v verde in alto e vedi che dice
[16:54] <vinz34> sta creando <D
[16:54] <vinz34> http://ibin.co/1xs0h2BnZiex
[16:59] <akis24> vinz34: puoi partire con la fase di installazione scegli opzione " partizionamento manuale " e poi sulla ext4 grande dai come punto di mount / e l'altra ovviamente la swap
[16:59] <akis24> !installazione | vinz34
[16:59] <ubot-it> vinz34: http://wiki.ubuntu-it.org/Installazione | Per installazione grafica http://wiki.ubuntu-it.org/Installazione/Grafica | Si consiglia la visione della guida ufficiale in inglese http://www.ubuntu.com/desktop/get-ubuntu/download
[17:00] <vinz34> ho capito
[17:00] <vinz34> pero il bootloader dove lo metto_
[17:00] <akis24> vinz34: devi solo verificare che vada su sda come di solito si trova preimpostato ..
[17:01] <akis24> io devo uscire ora vinz34
[17:01] <vinz34> su new partition 1
[17:02] <vinz34> ubuntu
[17:02] <akis24> vinz34: no dai un occhiata alla guida prima di combinare guai ...
[17:02] <vinz34> ok ma il bootloader per il dual boot
[17:02] <vinz34> quale prendo_
[17:02] <akis24> vinz34: deve andare su sda il bootloader
[17:02] <vinz34> sda senza numero_
[17:02] <akis24> vinz34: di solito è preimpostata gia' l'opzione per installarlo su sda
[17:03] <akis24> vinz34: si esatto senza numero e lo vedrai seguendo la fase di installazione
[17:03] <vinz34> quale sda1 sdsa2
[17:03] <vinz34> ok
[17:03] <akis24> vinz34: sda e basta
[17:03] <vinz34> poi mi dara automaticamente la scelta giusto
[17:04] <akis24> vinz34: attento a non combinare guai ... ti posto una foto
[17:05] <akis24> !image
[17:05] <ubot-it> Carica un'immagine su https://imgur.com/ | http://imageshack.us/ (richiede registrazione) e metti un collegamento ad essa in canale.
[17:05] <vinz34> non riesco a vedere come si imposta lo swap
[17:06] <akis24> vinz34: guarda l'ultima riga il resto lascia perdere http://i.imgur.com/REBwA7Q.png
[17:06] <vinz34> mh
[17:06] <vinz34> ora ci provo 1 secondo
[17:07] <akis24> vinz34: a leggere la guida no vero ... mah
[17:08] <vinz34> askis24 si siamo nell opzione altro
[17:09] <vinz34> devo mettere la spunta su ext4 senza formattare direttamente installare
[17:09] <vinz34> il bootloader non tocco nulla
[17:09] <akis24> vinz34 ok
[19:53] <PabloRubianes> hello someone from here that lives in italy speaks english or spanish, I have a question
[19:59] <cristian_c> !es | PabloRubianes
[19:59] <ubot-it> Voce non trovata: 'es'
[19:59] <cristian_c> !en | PabloRubianes
[19:59] <ubot-it> Voce non trovata: 'en'
[20:00] <cristian_c> !english
[20:00] <ubot-it> Please join the international channel #ubuntu if you want to speak english. Here only italian language is permitted. Thank you
[20:01] <cristian_c> !spanish
[20:01] <ubot-it> Aquí se habla sólo en italiano. Si busca ayuda en español o charlar entra en el canal #ubuntu-es. Escribe "/join #ubuntu-es" (sin comillas) y dale a enter.
[20:11] <PabloRubianes> not looking for suppoer
[20:11] <PabloRubianes> support
[20:16] <cristian_c> PabloRubianes, then, please join #ubuntu-it-chat
[20:17] <cristian_c> PabloRubianes, #ubuntu-it is the official italian ubuntu support channel
[21:08] <frankie_> salve
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2024-05-13T22:11:10.761218
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"Matt_91",
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"mnemonik",
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"ubot-it",
"vinz34"
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2015-04-10-#ubuntu-es
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[06:35] * merrick Saluda.
[15:38] <Xago> hola a todos, cómo era en gnome para cambiar el ambiente de escritorio?
[15:39] <Xago> tengo el tipo de ventana que solo tiene la X para cerrar, pero quiero montar otra que tenga - D X
[16:23] <Knight80> Hola, buenas tardes
[17:12] <Knight80> Vale, muchas gracias por todo...¿eh?
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ubuntu-chat
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2024-05-13T22:11:10.766210
| 2015-04-10T00:00:00 |
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"Knight80",
"Xago",
"merrick"
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"channel": "#ubuntu-es"
}
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2015-04-10-#juju
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[04:21] <jrwren> oh awesome. rsync -e 'juju ssh' works.
[10:44] <jrandall_> this may be a stupid question, but if I upgrade an openstack nova-compute charm while the hypervisor is running instances, what will happen to the running instances?
[12:19] <jcastro> lazyPower, can you fix your email metadata here: https://api.jujucharms.com/charmstore/v4/trusty/shoutcast-1/archive/metadata.yaml
[13:23] <stub> Can someone with a unit on a public cloud do 'juju run --unit=foo/0 unit-get --format=json public-address' for me? I need to know if that is a dns name, ip address, or something else.
[13:25] <stub> Pretty certain it will be the ip address, which means something else is the problem (but still worth checking)
[13:40] <tvansteenburgh> > juju run --unit=ubuntu/0 'unit-get --format=json public-address'
[13:40] <tvansteenburgh> "54.198.21.204"
[13:40] <tvansteenburgh> stub ^
[13:46] <stub> ta.
[13:46] <stub> Do I need to do anything before services can use the public-address ? I've got a java app failing to bind to the public address, but other parts of it are happily binding to the private address.
[13:47] <stub> It might be before the port-open is called
[13:47] <mbruzek> stub: yeah the public clouds are all behind firewalls
[13:48] <mbruzek> stub: the public-address is not available until open-port is called
[13:48] <stub> Hmm... so my services framework charm is starting the configured service in the install hook, before the start hook is called.
[13:50] <Spads> stub: yeah, the services framework doesn't care which hook it actually is, so long as all conditions are met
[13:51] <Spads> stub: the new charm helpers framework will be a bit more explicit and less magical about start/stop, though
[13:53] <stub> Nope, my fault. The default 'start' option in a service definition is [host.service_start, services.open_ports], and I overrode it. So my ports never got opened, and things explode the first time my public address != private address
[13:54] <stub> Although looking at that default, it should be the other way around if this is indeed the problem.
[13:56] <Spads> I am aha
[13:57] <Spads> er, aha!
[14:04] <stub> Will will eventually re-implement Ansible.
[14:33] <lazyPower> jcastro: fix released, thanks for catching that
[14:33] <jcastro> <3
[14:44] <stub> tvansteenburgh, mbruzek: Can either of you kick off the lp:~stub/charms/trusty/cassandra/spike tests again? I think I've sorted things, and local tests are ok.
[14:44] <mbruzek> stub: sure
[14:45] <mbruzek> stub kicked
[14:45] <mbruzek> stub: they are all the active processes here: http://juju-ci.vapour.ws:8080/
[14:51] <stub> ta
[14:52] <mbruzek> stub, I just kicked off tests for lazyPower but they should be queued behind your.
[15:00] <apuimedo> lazyPower: is it possible to deploy lxc services that have to talk to each other on different hosts?
[15:00] <lazyPower> apuimedo: you'll need to do some SDN
[15:00] <lazyPower> apuimedo: http://blog.dasroot.net/container-networking-with-flannel.html
[15:00] <apuimedo> SDN? What is that :P
[15:01] <apuimedo> xD
[15:01] <mbruzek> software defined network
[15:01] <apuimedo> I was joking. I work at Midokura (we provide SDN)
[15:02] <lazyPower> apuimedo: baseline answer without sdn: Nope - host only communication :)
[15:02] <mbruzek> I was just reminding myself.
[15:02] <apuimedo> yeah, that's what I guessed ;-)
[15:02] <lazyPower> apuimedo: baseline answer with midonet: Network all teh things!
[15:02] <apuimedo> :P
[15:02] <apuimedo> but who will deploy the MidoNet that is used by Juju to deploy MidoNet
[15:03] <apuimedo> it's turtles all the way down
[15:03] <lazyPower> thats just it, we're reconfiguring the LXC bridge with the flannel charm
[15:03] <lazyPower> the thing to be aware of, if you're reconfiguring LXC - you need to config that software bridge *before* the service is up
[15:04] <apuimedo> lazyPower: do you use that config file for defining the interfaces for lxc like nova-flex does?
[15:05] <lazyPower> we've targeted 2 network devices - lxcbr0 and docker0 - we dont support other networking changes in those charms.
[15:05] <lazyPower> the rest is leveraging default routes to pick the proper device to send the data OTW
[15:07] <apuimedo> good
[15:08] <lazyPower> mbruzek: when you're done fixing up /42 - i have /20 on the kubes charm rdy for rev - https://github.com/whitmo/charm-kubernetes/pull/20
[21:30] <dpb1> anyone know how to silence the bootstrap on maas from this "ARNING no architecture was specified, acquiring an arbitrary node"
[21:31] <dpb1> *WARNING
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ubuntu-chat
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2015-04-10-#xubuntu
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[01:23] <socrates> I need help with Qualcomm Atheros AR9462 Wireless Network Adapter
[01:24] <holstein> !wifi
[01:25] <holstein> http://askubuntu.com/questions/301442/atheros-ar9462-wifi-very-unstable-package-loss has some nice suggestions.. is that what you are experiencing? what is described?
[01:25] <socrates> holstein, yes ... doesn't work properly
[01:27] <socrates> this is my kernel : 3.16.0-30-generic
[01:27] <holstein> *great*!, have you tried any of the "Fixes" from that link? http://askubuntu.com/questions/301442/atheros-ar9462-wifi-very-unstable-package-loss ?
[01:27] <holstein> do they seem to have any effect?
[01:27] <socrates> holstein, I try before ... but fail
[01:28] <holstein> socrates: cool.. you can always try being more specific and verbose about what you tried, and also, try #ubuntu since its not specifically related to xubuntu or xfce...
[01:29] <socrates> this afternoon I try all the time ... and is the same situation ... wifi connect and a few time disconnect
[01:30] <socrates> when I using Debian the wifi working hard
[01:31] <holstein> note the kernel and modules in use, and try the fixes specified at the link above ^
[01:31] <socrates> tried and fail
[01:32] <holstein> socrates: tried what? and what failed? how? did you try asking in #ubuntu?
[01:32] <socrates> the modules
[01:33] <socrates> sudo modprobe ath9k
[01:33] <socrates> and sudo lshw -C network
[01:34] <holstein> cool.. thats one of them
[01:34] <holstein> also.. "I have an Acer V5-131 with an AR9462. It worked for some access points but cut out/reconnected on others. This is the line in /etc/modprobe.d/ath9k.conf that fixed it for me:
[01:34] <holstein> options ath9k nohwcrypt=1 blink=1 btcoex_enable=1"
[01:35] <holstein> Changing my router channel to 1 fixed exactly this problem for my AR9462 wireless. None of the ath9k options had any effect.
[01:37] <socrates> let me see ... wait a moment
[01:39] <socrates> now I modify my own /etc/modprobe.d/ath9k.conf
[01:40] <socrates> next save and reboot ?
[01:40] <holstein> what would i do? backup my existing file, edit, save, and reboot..
[01:41] <socrates> copy this : options ath9k nohwcrypt=1 blink=1 btcoex_enable=1"
[01:44] <socrates> holstein,
[01:44] <socrates> now working with wifi
[02:55] <somethinelse> Hey there everybody. Running Xubuntu 12.04 w/ Cinnamon. I'm starting to experience more and more frequent total freeze-ups, where I can't use ctrl+alt+f1 or REISUB, no mouse either
[02:55] <somethinelse> Any way I could find logs or anything for whats happening? I don't really know what could be going on
[02:56] <holstein> somethinelse: you added a PPA for cinnamon?
[02:58] <somethinelse> I guess not, its not on my list
[02:59] <holstein> !info cinnamon
[02:59] <somethinelse> !info cinnamon
[03:00] <holstein> !info cinnamon precise
[03:00] <holstein> somethinelse: so, to get cinnamon in ubuntu, you would have added a source for it.. a PPA
[03:01] <holstein> that ppa, not being officially supported or maintained by ubuntu, can break
[03:01] <somethinelse> i dont see one listed but i suppose so then
[03:01] <holstein> what would i do? install 14.04.. or 15.04 at this point
[03:01] <somethinelse> Not an option till I can backup files :/
[03:01] <holstein> somethinelse: you need to backup regardless. *all* hard drives fail
[03:02] <somethinelse> Yeah, I konw
[03:02] <somethinelse> I just cant do it right now
[03:02] <somethinelse> if i just use a different desktop environment should i be ok then?
[03:02] <somethinelse> Well, if thats the issue
[03:02] <holstein> i dont know what the issue is, but, it wont hurt to try that.. try using xfce, since, im assuming you have installed xubuntu
[03:03] <Unit193> somethinelse: Well, Xubuntu 12.04 hits EOL this month anyway. You can try a different env though to see if it has less problems so you can upgrade.
[03:03] <holstein> *could* be the hard drive failing causing all your issues..
[03:03] <somethinelse> I considered that
[03:03] <somethinelse> oh, didnt know it did this month, yeah i really should then eh :P
[03:04] <somethinelse> alright, well thanks for the help folks :)
[06:23] <cognitios> Can someone tell me how to install the numix theme?
[06:25] <xangua> download the theme and extract it in your ~/.themes or ~/.icons directory, depending on what is it
[06:25] <cognitios> I keep getting the message E: Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11: Resource temporarily unavailable)
[06:25] <cognitios> E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?
[06:25] <cognitios> whenever I try and use the command line to dld something
[06:26] <cfhowlett> !aptlock | cognitios
[06:26] <cognitios> Thank you!
[06:27] <cognitios> what was the cause of the error?
[06:27] <cognitios> or what was the error called?
[06:28] <cfhowlett> cognitios, I'm guessing that you have set your system to automatically update which requires sudo apt-get update. this locks the system until the process completes, i.e. "apt-lock"
[06:28] <cognitios> Will I need to do that command multiple times? Or just this once?
[06:29] <cognitios> Yes, that would make sense, I did set the system to automatically update when installing
[06:29] <cfhowlett> cognitios, disable the auto-update function or be prepared to override with the procedure you just performe
[06:31] <cognitios> I just go to settings > session and startup > app autostart and then uncheck the update notifier for that correct?
[06:31] <cfhowlett> cognitios, I believe so. wait a sec ...
[06:32] <cfhowlett> cognitios, nope.
[06:32] <cognitios> What is the correct way to do it?
[06:32] <cfhowlett> cognitios, system > software updater > settings > Updates > automatically check for udpates: never
[06:33] <cognitios> Thanks man!
[06:33] <cfhowlett> cognitios, happy2help!
[06:34] <cfhowlett> cognitios, note these terminal commands: sudo apt-get udpate sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[06:34] <cfhowlett> for more info; run this in terminal: apt-get
[06:35] <cognitios> Yeah, those are pretty common with Ubuntu, do you have a suggested interval on when to run those commands?
[06:35] <cognitios> I used to do it about every week, should I do it daily?
[06:35] <cfhowlett> cognitios, personally: once a week
[06:36] <cognitios> Alright, just making sure, thanks!
[06:36] <cfhowlett> cognitios, also: sudo apt-get autoremove for the spring cleaning!
[06:36] <DazPetty> can anybody recommend something like docky
[06:36] <DazPetty> there are a couple similar apps that make the mac style launcher
[06:37] <DazPetty> wondering if anyone had anytips
[06:37] <DazPetty> docky vs cairo etc
[07:29] <xubuntu31w> Can someone help?
[07:30] <cfhowlett> !ask | xubuntu31w
[07:31] <xubuntu31w> II spilt hot chocolate on my computer and it broke. Where can I get some good hot chocolate which wont break my computer if I spill it on it.
[07:32] <cfhowlett> xubuntu31w, please ask in #trolls. this is not the channel you need.
[09:01] <cq-aux> heya
[09:01] <cq-aux> facebook says I need to update flash
[09:01] <cq-aux> but I can't update flash
[09:02] <cq-aux> (not on the flashplayer website - through software center)
[09:02] <cfhowlett> !flash | cq-aux
[09:03] <cq-aux> thanks I hope
[09:03] <cq-aux> nope I've already done that
[09:04] <cfhowlett> cq-aux, adobe no longer supports linux flash ...
[09:04] <cq-aux> how do I uninstall flash and use only pepper flash?
[09:09] <cq-aux> hang on, what flash alternative should I be using then?
[09:10] <Unit193> Security updates are fine, there's just no feature updates.
[09:13] <cq-aux_> how do I actually play facebook videos?
[10:18] <mangost> hey!
[10:19] <mangost> Indownloaded the xubuntu i386 latest iso, and installed it on a usbstick through unetbootin from a Windows 7 computer
[10:19] <mangost> the stick's filesystem is FAT32
[10:20] <mangost> the installwtion freezes at the wireless screen
[10:20] <mangost> I am now writing from my tablet
[10:20] <mangost> has anybody encountered a similar issue? if so, what can I do about it?
[11:55] <Thenewone> good morning
[12:29] <DazPetty> hey what does "sudo apt-key del [keynumber]" do
[12:29] <DazPetty> because I am looking at this program
[12:29] <DazPetty> https://wiki.tox.im/Binaries |||| called Tox
[12:29] <DazPetty> it is a messanger
[14:41] <chrislp> I have a simple question. I have a 120 GB SSD and a 2 TB HDD. The natural thing to do would be to mount the SSD at / and the HDD at /home, but I am very sensical to noise. Would launching an application from the SSD cause my HDD to spin up and make noise if it needed to load a config file from ~/.config/xyz?
[14:52] <bgardner> Yes
[14:53] <bgardner> chrislp: I have the configuration you describe, the answer is yes.
[14:53] <chrislp> bgardner: Thanks for your response. That's a shame though :(
[14:54] <bgardner> chrislp: Not really, you are leveraging your strengths. If sounds is that important to you, invest in a huge SSD.
[14:55] <chrislp> bgardner: How would you do it if you had a bigger SSD then? Say, a 500 GB SSD and a 2 TB HDD for data storage? How'd you mount them as to minimize the hdd noise?
[14:55] <bgardner> chrislp: You could symlink your config folders to a dedicated space on your SSD.
[14:55] <mrkramps> mount /home on SSD too and link data content from ssd /home to hdd
[14:57] <chrislp> That seems like a nice solution. Thanks guys!
[14:59] <bgardner> chrislp: Actually, after thinking about this you would need to do it the way mrkramps describes, otherwise you'd still probably spin up the drive to read the symlink.
[15:05] <mrkramps> actually it's vice versa … softlink data from hdd to /home on ssd, but i guess he got me right ^^
[15:05] <DoomBoom> is this by design? every time I start Dropbox it automatically readds it to "session and startup" and makes it start automatically
[15:05] <DoomBoom> it's really annoying me
[15:07] <mrkramps> DoomBoom, dropbox should have a setting in preferences to prevent this
[15:08] <mrkramps> DoomBoom or:$ dropbox autostart n
[15:09] <DoomBoom> mrkramps, thanks man, I didn't even think about Dropbox' own preferences
[15:10] <DoomBoom> I just removed it from application autostart and found it re-add itself whenever I restarted it
[16:27] <cognitios> how do i format a usb drive on xubuntu?
[16:27] <holstein> cognitios: i use gparted
[16:27] <holstein> !info gparted
[16:29] <cognitios> Thanks!
[16:29] <cognitios> !
[16:48] <ngomes> hello , after suspend ( S3 ) the network manager reconfigure my network in order to have connectivity. there's a OSD message saying "you are now connected" and there's a button that says "do not show this message again" all fine until here. but i clicked "do not show this message again" and it did its job , but now i want to put it back , i want the message. any ideia how ?
[16:49] <ngomes> using xubuntu 14.10
[16:49] <holstein> resetting the config for the user might reset that
[16:50] <holstein> should be able to see what you need to see in the network applet running in the tray
[16:50] <ngomes> holstein, u mean , delete .gconf dir ?
[16:50] <ngomes> or nm-applet under ~./.gconf ?
[16:51] <holstein> i would research what would specifically address that.. and keep track of what i change, and have backups
[16:51] <ngomes> i've tried to research
[16:51] <holstein> sure.. what settings are you not able to reach?
[16:52] <ngomes> gconf/apps/nmapplet is missing options
[16:52] <holstein> ngomes: cool.. what options are missing?
[16:52] <ngomes> i've added manually and it still does not work
[16:52] <ngomes> wait
[16:52] <holstein> you added what manually to what?
[16:52] <ngomes> with gconftool
[16:52] <ngomes> one moment
[16:53] <ngomes> holstein, see this picture -> http://i.stack.imgur.com/nE8LJ.png
[16:53] <mrkramps> eh, shouldn't this be dconf?
[16:53] <ngomes> i only had "stamp" option
[16:54] <ngomes> i thought dconf would be another frontend for gconf ...
[16:55] <ngomes> how to install dconf ?
[16:55] <ngomes> i'll try and reset config
[16:56] <mrkramps> nah, i guess you're right … dconf is just another frontend to gsettings
[16:57] <ngomes> ok
[16:58] <holstein> ngomes: diabling notifications shouldnt effect the settings in the UI
[16:58] <holstein> ngomes: what im suggesting is, just click on the nmapplet to set whatever you want to set
[16:58] <holstein> you dont have to catch that specific popup message to maintain the connection
[16:59] <mrkramps> funny though, actually it is vice versa … dconf is the backend to gsettings :)
[16:59] <ngomes> i know the message does not interfer with the nm doing his job , just wondering why cant i revert this option to show OSD message again ...
[17:00] <ngomes> and why i only have stamp "3" option , instead of the list that shows on the picture
[17:03] <ngomes> well deleted .gconf/apps/nm-applet/ dir , gonna reboot to see it things were reverted ... brb
[17:07] <ngomes> hello again . nope , deleting dir was not helpfull and it did not recreate the nmapplet under .gconf ... lol :)
[17:07] <holstein> ngomes: recreate the nmapplet?
[17:08] <ngomes> yes , the .gconf/apps/nmapplet/
[17:08] <holstein> the nmapplet doent need recreated, correct? its there? and working properly? its just the GUI popup that you want to see again, correct?
[17:08] <ngomes> yes
[17:08] <holstein> cool
[17:08] <holstein> i suppose i would poke around in other config settings, and *not* just delete things, but, keep track of what i move, and know how to revert..
[17:09] <ngomes> its there
[17:09] <ngomes> it was recreated
[17:10] <holstein> sure.. the *config* was.. but, thats not the config to reset the setting you seek
[17:10] <ngomes> with default stamp "3" option in it
[17:10] <holstein> i dont understand what you are referecing with "default stamp 3" options
[17:10] <ngomes> what i think i need its like it show on the picture
[17:10] <ngomes> http://i.stack.imgur.com/nE8LJ.png
[17:10] <holstein> you should be missing no functionality by leaving it "as-is"
[17:11] <ngomes> disable-connected-notifications option
[17:12] <ngomes> looks like the option i need and its not there , and even if i add it manually , nm-applet wont accept
[17:15] <ngomes> i've read this post http://askubuntu.com/questions/67500/how-to-disable-notification-from-network-manager
[17:16] <holstein> ngomes: you have the disabled, though.. what you want to do is, undo the disabling you have already done..
[17:17] <ngomes> holstein, that picture isnt mine configuration ! mine only shows stamp "3" option !
[17:17] <holstein> ngomes: sure. there are lots of changes happening right now with many applications
[17:18] <ngomes> that picture is some one configuration regarding that post i've read
[17:18] <holstein> ngomes: i understand that you clicked an option that *never* show you the popups again, and now you want to see them.. and i just dont know where the GUI is to undo that setting..
[17:18] <ngomes> ok , i stay without OSD messages
[17:19] <holstein> if i wanted to get to the bottom of it, i would just move my user configs, not delete them.. and test.. see if things are back to default.. then, i would put back what i need..
[17:20] <ngomes> holstein, no harm was made . i deleted the dir trought CLI , rebooted and it just recreated the dir with default settings
[17:21] <holstein> ngomes: sure, and i understand you did that for *one8 directory, and that didnt reset what you seek to reset.. what im saying is, *if* i wanted to track it down, i would move *more* directories, or *all* of them.. reboot, and test.. and put back what i need
[17:21] <ngomes> yes , i agree, move is better , my bad
[17:21] <holstein> "better" is a matter of use case and opinion.. you just dont need to delete to test what you are trying to test.. if you want to delete, delete.. but, its not necessary, and move or rename allows you to revert
[17:22] <ngomes> i only had 3 dirs in it , i guess i'm gonna move all .gconf then
[17:22] <holstein> ngomes: and, it may not even be in .gconf.. could be in a completely different place
[17:22] <ngomes> ok ...
[17:22] <holstein> and to track down exactly where, i think you would need to email a dev list..
[17:23] <ngomes> i need to register to dev list and on and on ... too much trouble :(
[17:24] <holstein> sure.. thats why im suggesting that, for me, it would be (arguably) easier to just move *everything* from my home config, and test.. see if that even addresses the alleged issue, then, put back what i need/want if it does
[17:24] <ngomes> sure ... my bad
[17:27] <ngomes> well , i give up , no clue where to search
[17:27] <ngomes> i stay without OSD messages
[17:27] <ngomes> thanks for your time
[17:27] <holstein> sure.. good luck
[18:18] <xubuntu99w> Hello good people of Xubuntu.
[18:18] <xubuntu99w> Is there anybody alive here?
[18:20] <mrkramps> question?
[18:20] <xubuntu99w> Yes, that was a question.
[18:21] <mrkramps> question was if you want to ask one
[18:21] <xubuntu99w> I am having trouble with Ubuntu software center on Xubuntu Utopic Unicorn.
[18:22] <mrkramps> trouble in terms of?
[18:22] <xubuntu99w> I can't submit an app review.
[18:23] <xubuntu99w> It says "Signing in..." and nothing happens after that.
[18:24] <mrkramps> signing in to what?
[18:25] <xubuntu99w> After I click on "Write your own review" a new window pops up with the message "Signing in...".
[18:25] <xubuntu99w> I wonder if I have to log in with my Ubuntu account, but I don't know how. I think on Ubuntu a dialog shows for you to type your user name and password, but I am not sure.
[18:27] <xubuntu99w> Do you think we should send a message to the mailing list to let someone know about this? It may be some kind of bug.
[18:27] <xubuntu99w> Does it happen to you too?
[18:28] <mrkramps> actually, i don't use USC
[18:28] <xubuntu99w> Do you have it installed?
[18:28] <xubuntu99w> Do you just use sudo apt-get install?
[18:28] <mrkramps> APT or Synaptics
[18:29] <brainvvash> xubuntu99w: bug 1316481
[18:29] <xubuntu99w> Oh
[18:29] <xubuntu99w> That was very helpful. Thanks everybody.
[18:30] <xubuntu99w> I think I need to learn how to search the web better.
[18:30] <brainvvash> there is also bug 1425104
[18:31] <brainvvash> generally, the software center appears to be one the worst piece of software :)
[18:31] <xubuntu99w> lol
[18:32] <brainvvash> it's amazing how slow and unstable it is
[18:32] <xubuntu99w> Since new users are going to use that a lot they should improve it. I remember that it was a little worse before.
[18:32] <mrkramps> the lubuntu software center is an interesting and simple approach
[18:33] <mrkramps> but USC is important as it works as an app store with some kind of DRM and stuff
[18:34] <mrkramps> no other way to sell commercial products for example
[18:34] <xubuntu99w> humm
[18:35] <xubuntu99w> Is there a way to up vote a bug?
[18:35] <xubuntu99w> Never mind
[18:35] <xubuntu99w> Found it.
[18:35] <mrkramps> :)
[18:35] <mrkramps> it's pretty easy
[18:35] <xubuntu99w> I have never used lubuntu a lot before.
[18:35] <xubuntu99w> I heard they are going to make some changes soon.
[18:36] <xubuntu99w> But I think Xfce is very good.
[18:36] <xubuntu99w> Thanks for everybody help.
[19:22] <xubuntu50w> Hey. Does anybody know, can you get the text editor Sigil in the Ubuntu Software Center for Xubuntu?
[19:23] <xubuntu50w> Some people have told me I can, but I can't find it there.
[19:24] <bekks> !info sigil
[19:24] <bekks> "No." :)
[19:24] <elfy> you'd need a ppa for it
[19:28] <elfy> https://launchpad.net/~i2p.packages/+archive/ubuntu/i2p/+packages
[19:28] <elfy> but bear in mind you'd have to support yourself if you get problems, or with the ppa maintainer
[19:33] <xubuntu50w> Ok. Thanks very much. And elfy thanks for the link. Have a great day.
[20:06] <sleezio> hello, i have an iso file i mounted, but it mounted as read only, i'm guessing because it's either fat32 or ntfs format, i tried to open thunar as root and change the permissions, but even that won't work, i can't copy these files over...any ideas what i'm missing?
[20:07] <sleezio> or is there a specific parameter i can use in the mount command to give me full access(perms)?
[20:09] <sleezio> this is what i get when i mount it: mount: block device /home/slee/Downloads/blah.iso is write-protected, mounting read-only
[20:20] <xubuntu876> what is xfce ,
[20:20] <bazhang> !xfce | xubuntu876
[20:21] <xubuntu876> im instlling xubuntu
[20:21] <xubuntu876> installing
[22:32] <circ-user-DHlTS> just install xubuntu any tweaks or themes to make it look nice?
[22:33] <xangua> sudo apt-get install xubuntu-extras to install codecs, flash, fonts
[22:34] <dom__> i want to make it look fancier would i be able to install numix icons sorry im a n0b
[22:34] <dom__> n00b
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[06:04] <knightwise> morning everyone
[06:07] <diddledan> morning knightwise
[06:07] <diddledan> I've been bashing my head against a brick wall for the past 12 hours trying to get freenas to join as a member-server to a samba4-powered active directory
[06:07] <diddledan> finally found the problem
[06:08] <diddledan> this comment had the answer: https://bugs.pcbsd.org/issues/6632#note-17
[06:08] <diddledan> it seems samba's domain creation doesn't add a subnet to it's directory
[06:09] <diddledan> (for windows admins subnets are defined in the "active directory sites and services" admin tool)
[06:22] <diddledan> at least I think that fixes it
[06:22] <diddledan> just re-checking and it seems broken still
[06:26] <knightwise> diddledan: really ? there is a link between AD and layer 3 of the OSI stack ?
[07:48] <diddledan> lol: https://youtu.be/EOfy5LDpEHo
[07:54] <popey> apot Morning all
[08:02] <davmor2> Morning all
[08:04] <zmoylan-pi> morning *
[08:14] <davmor2> zmoylan-pi: wow man you say morning to everything rather than everyone ;)
[08:15] <zmoylan-pi> and 'all' excludes non sentients? :-)
[08:17] <bigcalm> Good morning peeps :)
[08:19] <awilkins> Groovy : https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/boxzy/boxzy-rapid-change-fablab-mill-laser-engraver-3d-p?ref=NewsApr0915&utm_campaign=Apr+09&utm_medium=email&utm_source=newsletter
[09:08] <JamesTait> Good morning all; happy Friday, and happy Siblings Day! :-D
[09:08] <zmoylan-pi> you've never met my siblings, have you...
[09:32] <JamesTait> zmoylan-pi, if they're anything like you I'm sure they're not all that bad. :-P
[09:35] <zmoylan-pi> i'm the nice one... :-)
[09:36] <zmoylan-pi> well except for 1 sister and a fairly ok brother...
[09:36] <zmoylan-pi> the rest are loonies
[09:40] <brobostigon> morning boys and girls.
[09:44] <foobarry> hmm experienced my first issue with owning an x86 tablet
[09:44] <zmoylan-pi> battery life?
[09:46] <foobarry> the picpac app doesn't create video or gifs
[09:47] <foobarry> emailed the dev who replied straightaway to say it got broke in latest version and he would work on fixing it
[09:47] <foobarry> i will forever be suspicious of apps that don't behave properly
[09:48] <zmoylan-pi> i'm more suspicious of apps that change
[09:48] <zmoylan-pi> broken apps i can often work around.
[09:48] <foobarry> this is not poss to work around
[09:49] <foobarry> i have an apk downloader installed on this laptop
[09:49] <foobarry> am i gonna have to keep an archive of favourite apps:(
[09:50] <zmoylan-pi> i think i have a directory around with all my old symbian apps somewhere... :-)
[09:52] * zmoylan-pi makes note to try python on current symbian phone...
[11:21] <Laney> oh god
[11:21] <Laney> open window → wafts of bacony goodness from the cafe behind
[11:21] <Laney> http://drool.popey.com/
[11:22] <popey> \o/
[11:42] <awilkins> GF just reported that she will soon have a faceful of falafel
[11:42] <awilkins> See ^ http://drool.popey.com
[11:46] <Laney> mmm phalaphel
[14:32] <diplo> Any VM users here ? trying to login a superhub
[14:32] <diplo> 192.168.0.1 ?
[14:32] <intrbiz> diplo: by VM you mean virgin media and not virtual machine?
[14:35] <Laney> WTF rain
[14:35] * Laney screams and gets the bbq charcoal in
[14:39] <zmoylan-pi> or course it's rain, the weekend is nearly upon us...
[14:40] <popey> diplo: it's 192.168.100.1
[14:48] <diplo> Sorry yeah
[14:48] <diplo> Browsing forums
[14:48] <diplo> So Superhub page own't load, issues it seems with superhub, 18 pages of me as well
[14:48] <diplo> They block PPTP by default and you need to enable passthrough
[14:49] <diplo> And I can't do that on customers site
[14:49] <davmor2> diplo, popey: I thought it was 192.168.0.1 unless you enabled modem only mode then it changed to 192.168.100.1 I could be wrong though
[14:49] <diplo> Because I can't login :D
[14:49] <diplo> davmor2: is correct
[14:49] <diplo> Well according to a few posts I read
[14:49] <diplo> Ah.. intrbiz, just wondering.. do you install your ansible via pip or apt-get ?
[14:50] <popey> davmor2: you're wrong :)
[14:50] <popey> davmor2: it's always 192.168.100.1 even if you use a different IP range
[14:50] <diplo> The forums I've just been reading all agree with davmor2 - responses from VM staff as well
[14:51] <diplo> 100.1 is status/stats in superhub mode it said ?
[14:51] <popey> its been 192.168.100.1 for _years_ - since I was on ntl, years back
[14:51] <diplo> yeah that was the status page of modem, not the login?
[14:51] <popey> yes, the login too
[14:51] <popey> it doesnt matter what your local network is, the modem always lets you get to it with 192.168.100.1
[14:52] <diplo> heh, well I tried both anyway earlier and neither would load
[14:52] <popey> you broke it :)
[14:52] <diplo> Seems it's been an issue for a lot of users for over 2 years
[14:52] <diplo> 18 pages of people complaining, only response they get is. Firmware coming soon, we'll send you a new one out, turn it to modem only mode fo rnow
[14:53] <popey> hah
[14:53] <popey> i had to reboot mine last night
[14:54] <diplo> I keep debating going back to Virgin, but guess I should buy a router before I do
[14:54] <diplo> :)
[14:55] <intrbiz> I installed Ansible via zypper (I use openSUSE)
[14:57] <intrbiz> diplo: best off asking bigcalm how he installed ansible
[14:58] <bigcalm> diplo: ansible in apt is old. Use the github version
[14:58] <intrbiz> is there a ppa?
[14:59] <bigcalm> Oh, maybe I used the ppa, yes
[14:59] <diplo> pip installs the newest I think
[14:59] <diplo> But I'll look at a ppa too
[14:59] <bigcalm> I've logged my install somewhere..
[14:59] <diplo> I've setup a new host, waiting to speak to you two before I reinstalled to see preferred :D
[15:01] <bigcalm> diplo: http://paste.ubuntu.com/10792118/
[15:01] <diplo> top man thank you
[15:01] <bigcalm> The ppa is maintained by the Ansible peeps, so it's up to date
[15:03] <diplo> Installing ta
[15:04] <diplo> yeah same version as pip is being installed. prefer apt though
[16:01] <foobarry> anyone know how to make a lawn grow from bare patch of ground?
[16:01] <foobarry> turf or seed?
[16:04] <zmoylan-pi> if you declare weeds to be a lawn it's easy :-)
[16:06] <popey> seed will work at this time of year
[16:06] <popey> bit of sun, bit of water
[16:09] <foobarry> wifey is demanding a lawn for summer
[16:10] <foobarry> and a patio :(
[16:10] <popey> turf
[16:10] <zmoylan-pi> dig for victory!
[16:10] <foobarry> paying a man is ££
[16:10] <popey> what else you gonna spend it on?
[16:10] <foobarry> he wants 750£ for a lawn
[16:10] <popey> models of spitfires?
[16:10] <foobarry> a bed, a freezer, a holiday, clothes
[16:11] <foobarry> university unds
[16:11] <zmoylan-pi> original spitfires cost 5k new during wwii :-)
[16:11] <foobarry> my lawn is ony 35m2 max
[16:12] <foobarry> was gonna do it this week but been ill for 4 days :(
[16:12] <zmoylan-pi> then rake, grass seed and shotgun to keep the birds and cats off it
[16:12] <awilkins> LASERS
[16:12] <foobarry> yes, i need a net
[16:12] <awilkins> Grass lasers
[16:12] <zmoylan-pi> lasers will only attract more cats
[16:12] <awilkins> You attract the cats to the paths and side borders
[16:12] <awilkins> They scare off the birds
[16:12] <zmoylan-pi> cats see fresh tilled soil as predug toilet
[16:13] <awilkins> Lasers are therefore the best lawn promoter. QED.
[16:14] <foobarry> not sure if lasers are real
[16:14] <zmoylan-pi> do not look at imaginary device with remaining eye
[16:16] <popey> i got a tiny torch for my birthday
[16:16] <popey> its very bright
[16:16] <popey> Ti3
[16:16] <popey> http://www.amazon.co.uk/ThruNite%C2%AE-Mini-Ti3-Ti2-Flashlights/dp/B00NTVJD0U
[16:16] <popey> but not pink
[16:16] <foobarry> any recommendations for seed? miracle grow?
[16:17] * popey shrugs
[16:19] <zmoylan-pi> seed is seed. depends on whether you want to look at or walk on or lie on the grass as to which you pick i think
[16:21] <foobarry> some seed is special
[16:21] <foobarry> magic beans
[16:25] <shauno> just ordered one of these Aquaris wotsits :)
[16:41] <knightwise> yoyo
[16:42] <zmoylan-pi> hulu hoop
[16:43] <knightwise> ok , mate runs ... pretty smooth on a raspberry pi2
[16:43] <knightwise> 'pretty'
[16:55] <awilkins> Does that mean "smooth as silk" or "cotton pillowcase"
[16:58] <knightwise> well, if you arent spoiled with a pc purchased in the last 3 years ... its pretty smooth
[16:59] <zmoylan-pi> sounds like a replacement for a 4-5yo netbook i use as mainsystem
[16:59] <awilkins> I'm running a Pi2 as a webserver
[16:59] <awilkins> Runs Ruby on Rails OK
[17:00] <knightwise> awilkins: i think i'm gonna install raspbian on it , command line only
[17:00] <awilkins> Yeah, that's what I've got on it. It's sat behind my TV being a quiet little server
[17:02] <knightwise> its a great device
[17:02] <knightwise> its running my command line apps , acts as an ssh server ....
[17:02] <knightwise> Have it hooked up to my Synology
[19:10] <diddledan> ebenink
[19:20] <shauno> 'lo dan
[19:57] <diddledan> edward snowden says to use the password "margretthatcheris110%SEXY"
[19:57] <diddledan> ref: https://youtu.be/yzGzB-yYKcc
[19:59] <brobostigon> new HIGNFY :)
[21:25] <intrbiz> diddledan: (despite the reference to thatcher) its alot better than abc123
[22:47] <MooDoo> evening all
[23:29] <m0nkey_> Cities: Skylines is evil
[23:29] <m0nkey_> I've played 3hrs stright
[23:29] <m0nkey_> Since getting home
[23:33] <shauno> and you're taking a break already?
[23:34] <m0nkey_> just to grab food then right back i go
[23:35] * m0nkey_ loves his new PC
[23:35] <m0nkey_> SO MANY GAMES!
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ubuntu-chat
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2024-05-13T22:11:10.803977
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2015-04-10-#ubuntu-de
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[05:43] <kirsten> hallo, ich bekomme die Fehlermeldung: Konnte Sperre /var/lib/dpkg/lock nicht bekommen - open (11: Die Ressource ist zur Zeit nicht verfügbar) Laut Wiki soll ich die "lock-Datei löschen und mit sudo touch /var/cache/apt/archives/lock neu anlegen. Was mich stuzig macht: die Lock datei wäre dann danach doch in einem anderen Verzeichnis als vorher, oder??
[06:28] <geser> welchen Befehl hast du aufgerufen als du die erste Fehlermeldung bekommen hast?
[07:05] <passt_> ich habe keine Schreibrechte auf den Internen Speicher eines angeschlossenen Android - ubuntu1410
[07:05] <passt_> wie kann ich die erlangen?
[07:07] <passt_> der interne speicher des androids ist nach dem anschließen automatisch gemountet worden.
[07:22] <obr7> moin
[07:24] <obr7> Gibts einen Bug mit initctl / upstart? Wenn ich ein Python-Skript starte was alle 3 Sekunden in eine Datei schreibt, wird diese Datei zwar angelegt, bleibt aber leer. Wenn ich das Python-Skript direkt starte, geht es.
[08:28] <geser> hast du kontrolliert ob der Upstart-Job läuft?
[08:43] <DerRaiden> guten morgen
[08:47] <leszek> morgen
[08:57] <obr7> geser: Ja. Mit f.flush() funzt es jetzt.
[14:10] <noxs> wie installiere ich per default ubuntu mit ZFS als dateysystem?
[14:12] <apollo13> noxs: gar nicht und du willst kein zfs
[14:13] <noxs> okay, ich genieße es dann weiter mit meinem freenas, danke
[14:13] <noxs> alternativ halte ich mich mal an diese quelle: https://github.com/zfsonlinux/pkg-zfs/wiki/HOWTO-install-Ubuntu-14.04-or-Later-to-a-Native-ZFS-Root-Filesystem
[14:13] <kubine> noxs: Title: HOWTO install Ubuntu 14.04 or Later to a Native ZFS Root Filesystem · zfsonlinux/pkg-zfs Wiki · GitHub (at github.com)
[14:13] <noxs> nichts für ungut, schönes wochenende zusammen!
[14:14] <apollo13> noxs: und für was?
[14:14] <apollo13> zfs bringt auf nem normalen ubuntu ziemlich genau nix
[14:15] <noxs> es dient nur der befriedigung des trial-and-error-erfahrungs-konzept! ;-)
[14:15] <apollo13> lol
[14:16] <noxs> wobei ich die snapshot möglichkeiten schon wirklich genial finde
[14:17] <noxs> aber ja, an einem normalen arbeitsgerät ohne ständigen testbetrieb in meinem fall tatsächlich unnötig
[16:14] <Guest23861> hi
[16:15] <Guest23861> jemand da ,,
[18:34] <dreamon> Wenn ich während des laufen von Virtualbox in Bereitschaft gehe, dann schafft er das nicht. Bild wird zwar dunkel aber Kiste geht nich richtig in Bereitschaft. Wecke ich ihn auf, dann geht das netzwerk nicht. Beende ich Virtualbox dann geht er in Standby.
[21:16] <Lembert> Hallo, ich benutze auf meinem ubuntu homeserver vsftpd. Ist es damit irgendwie möglich das Übertragungsvolumen eines Users auf x GB zu begrenzen?
[21:17] <bekks> Nein.
[21:17] <Lembert> oktay, gibt es irgend eine Möglichkeit so etwas zu realisieren?
[21:18] <bekks> Eventuell gibt es in the L7 patches von iptables etwas brauchbares dazu. Aber das ist halt fernab jeden Ubuntusupports, weil Du iptables selbst bauen und patchen müsstest.
[21:21] <Lembert> hm ungern, gibts eventuell alternative ftp deamons die sowas implementiert haben?
[21:21] <bekks> Nein.
[21:21] <bekks> Das hat nichts mit dem FTP Client zu tun, leider.
[21:22] <Lembert> oktay, danke schon mal
[21:23] <Lembert> weist du zufällig wie sowas "andere" realisieren die mit Volumenbegrenzung bei ftp arbeiten?
[21:23] <bekks> Wer ist "andere"?
[21:24] <Lembert> ich kenns noch von zeiten aus der uni
[21:24] <Lembert> ab nem gewissen übertragungsvolumen war der account dicht, bei jedem login gabs ne message wieviel volumen noch frei ist
[21:25] <bekks> Aus dieser Zeit stammen die L7 patches :)
[21:25] <Lembert> ah okay :D
[21:33] <Lembert> bekks: sorry das ich nochmal nachake, aber nach was muss ich bzgl L7 suchen? Ich finde darüber zwar genügend, aber nichts was das Übertragungsvolumen betrifft.
[21:40] <bekks> bandwidth quota
[21:46] <Lembert> danke
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2015-04-10-#juju-gui
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[14:42] <mbruzek> rick_h_: ping
[15:39] <rick_h_> mbruzek: quick pong
[15:40] <mbruzek> rick_h_: can jujucharms.com point at github bundles yet?
[15:41] <rick_h_> mbruzek: talk about it in germany?
[15:41] <mbruzek> rick_h_: I will not be there.
[15:41] <rick_h_> mbruzek: ah, ok sorry thought you were.
[15:41] <mbruzek> I am guessing the answer is no
[15:42] <mbruzek> I want to know current abilities
[22:27] <lazyPower> rick_h_: ping
[22:28] <lazyPower> i know its close (if not after) EOD for you. can you peek at an ingest for me though? I've been waiting about an hour for some updates to a namespaced charm that haven't made it to the store yet :| it passes proof
[22:28] <lazyPower> thats all that required right? being /trunk, having valid metadata, and passing proof?
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ubuntu-chat
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2024-05-13T22:11:10.821835
| 2015-04-10T00:00:00 |
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"mbruzek",
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2015-04-10-#ubuntu-bugs
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[21:18] <ePirat> Hello
[21:22] <ePirat> I think I found a regression in the linux kernel shipped with ubuntu 15.04 (kernel 3.19)
[21:22] <ePirat> after some time my wifi connection behaves as it has dropped (but still displays as connected)
[21:23] <ePirat> this seems to only happen after some amount of data has been downloaded
[21:24] <ePirat> if I boot with 3.16 kernel I am not able to reproduce this, so I think this is a regression.
[21:25] <ePirat> as far as I understood I need to identify the version (and commit?) that breaks it, but I have no idea how to do so
[21:26] <ePirat> especially since it takes some time to reproduce the issue this isn't easy
[21:34] <ePirat> any hints/help much apreciated
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ubuntu-chat
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2024-05-13T22:11:10.824286
| 2015-04-10T00:00:00 |
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2015-04-10-#cloud-init
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[10:51] <Odd_Bloke> smoser: How can I tell that cloud-init has finished running?
[10:51] <Odd_Bloke> smoser: Is the existence of /var/lib/cloud/data/result.json sufficient?
[13:08] <smoser> Odd_Bloke, yeah, result.json wont be written until finished. and status.json contains state as it goes.
[13:08] <Odd_Bloke> smoser: Cool; and do you have any thoughts about using /run/cloud-init/... over /var/lib/cloud/data/... ?
[13:08] <smoser> /run is what you want
[13:12] <Odd_Bloke> smoser: Ah, these files aren't around on precise at all; is there an equivalent on that version?
[13:12] <smoser> no.
[13:13] <Odd_Bloke> utlemming: ^ is probably why you had the /tmp/cloud-init.done trick.
[13:13] <Odd_Bloke> smoser: Thanks for the help! :)
[13:17] <smoser> yeah.
[18:14] <kwaping> harlowja hola amigo
[18:14] <harlowja> kwaping hola
[18:14] <kwaping> I will try to be here more often, as suggested
[18:14] <harlowja> cool
[18:14] <harlowja> thx man
[18:16] * harlowja has to go poke infra to get https://review.openstack.org/#/c/172179/ in
[18:16] <harlowja> so we can start fixing up the repo
[18:23] <harlowja> kwaping smoser ok https://review.openstack.org/#/c/172179/ is merging, so i'll try that branch create again soon
[18:23] <harlowja> then kwaping do u want to try to do the sync of that branch with bzr?
[18:23] <harlowja> the ~10 patches that are missing
[18:23] <kwaping> cool
[18:24] <harlowja> thennnnn no more bzr?? ;)
[18:24] <kwaping> you want me to do the bzr -> git thing?
[18:24] <harlowja> sure, if u want
[18:24] <smoser> bzr isn't so bad.
[18:24] <smoser> :)
[18:24] <harlowja> probably just need to last X patch files and submit them up for review
[18:24] <harlowja> ;)
[18:25] <harlowja> nice try smoser
[18:25] <harlowja> lol
[18:25] <smoser> there are a couple nice things.
[18:27] <harlowja> hmmmmm
[19:17] <harlowja> smoser kwaping https://github.com/stackforge/cloud-init/tree/0.7.x is up
[19:17] <harlowja> sooo feel free to start updating it ;)
[19:17] <harlowja> thats revision 1046 afaik in bzr
[19:18] * harlowja would be nice to also have the right tags (or at least the 0.7.x tags)
[19:18] <kwaping> woohoo
[19:18] <harlowja> but need to know which git sha matches which bzr tag, ha
[19:18] <harlowja> then can replicate them
[19:20] <harlowja> kwaping when i run that bzr -> git thing; it appears the repo that it converts has the tags, sooo just need to push them up to gerrit, will do that
[19:20] <harlowja> less work to do :-P
[19:27] <kwaping> nice
[19:29] <harlowja> ok, all 0.7 tags except for 0.7.6 (which i think is the most recent, which needs more commits) is up
[19:31] <harlowja> i'll leave the 0.6.x tags off
[19:31] <harlowja> since meh
[19:32] <kwaping> should I still be building from that specific 1046 commit you mentioned?
[19:34] <harlowja> kwaping yes
[19:34] <harlowja> unless u push up the other 0.7.x patches and want to use those :-P
[19:35] <harlowja> otherwise there is no other commits (1047...) in that repo, lol
[19:35] <harlowja> but now at least u have a place to put said patches (on the 0.7.x branch)
[19:35] <harlowja> vs having no place at all
[19:36] <kwaping> ok
[19:36] <harlowja> JayF ^ u should be happy with all that
[19:36] <harlowja> ha
[19:37] <harlowja> https://github.com/stackforge/cloud-init/releases shows up also, nice
[19:37] <JayF> harlowja: so cloud-init v1 is in stackforge now?!
[19:37] <harlowja> JayF ya, all commits are there, branch is now there, tags for 0.7.x are there...
[19:37] <harlowja> i'd like to say no more bzr, but let's see ;)
[19:37] <harlowja> need to update the 0.7.x branch there first
[19:38] <JayF> harlowja: tl;dr: http://bit.ly/1axYBco ?
[19:38] <JayF> :P
[19:38] <harlowja> ha
[19:38] <harlowja> def
[19:40] <harlowja> https://github.com/stackforge/cloud-init/graphs/contributors is intersting to look at
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ubuntu-chat
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2024-05-13T22:11:10.828891
| 2015-04-10T00:00:00 |
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"JayF",
"Odd_Bloke",
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2015-04-10-#ubuntu-gnome
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[03:50] <LinDol_phone> hi all :)
[10:12] <Paddy_NI_> Hi I am having some very "jerky" window resizing on Ubuntu Gnome (current stable). Particularly when maximizing windows - I'm also noticing with "Terminator" when I maximise that the right half of the window does not show nor does the lower half of the left side.
[10:13] <Paddy_NI_> Would a screenshot of Terminator be of any use?
[10:13] <darkxst> Paddy_NI_, if that only affects terminator, then it could be a bug in that app
[10:14] <darkxst> we don't support it, whatever it is
[10:14] <Paddy_NI_> Well I notice other apps try to do the same
[10:14] <Paddy_NI_> However they eventually draw the rest
[10:14] <Paddy_NI_> Still incredibly jerky
[10:14] <Paddy_NI_> xchat is doing it too
[10:14] <darkxst> i've only seen jerky resizes under wayland
[10:15] <Paddy_NI_> gnome-terminal is also doing it very briefly
[10:15] <mgedmin> "current stable" is what, gnome 3.12 from ubuntu gnome 14.10?
[10:15] <darkxst> but could be a driver bug
[10:15] <Paddy_NI_> mgedmin, Current "Ubuntu Gnome"
[10:15] <Paddy_NI_> darkxst, Possible
[10:15] <Paddy_NI_> Intel graphics
[10:15] <Paddy_NI_> ThinkPad T420
[10:15] <Paddy_NI_> I'll ask the Lord Google
[10:15] <Paddy_NI_> :-)
[10:16] <darkxst> Paddy_NI_, smooth as butter on my T400
[10:16] <Paddy_NI_> :-(
[10:16] <mgedmin> x220 here, no video jerkiness
[10:16] <Paddy_NI_> I have not tried playing video yet
[10:16] <Paddy_NI_> Wanted to get window management down first
[10:16] <mgedmin> chromium has some slight problems with video
[10:17] <mgedmin> (hardware accelerated video not worky due to some dri3 wonkiness, so it falls back to pure-software aliased linear scaling ugh)
[10:17] <Paddy_NI_> lol
[10:17] <Paddy_NI_> I cannot screenshot it
[10:17] <mgedmin> that is interesting
[10:17] <Paddy_NI_> Screenshots seem to make it look normal again
[10:18] <mgedmin> well, gnome-shell does the "flash" effect that effectively redraws the whole screen
[10:18] <mgedmin> (after it takes the screenshot)
[10:18] <Paddy_NI_> When I highlight the non-displaying area with my mouse (or keyboard) it begins to display
[10:18] <mgedmin> do you see any damage in the screenshot?
[10:18] <mgedmin> incidentally
[10:18] <Paddy_NI_> mgedmin, Exactly what I was thinking
[10:18] <darkxst> dri3 is still broken in general I believe
[10:18] <Paddy_NI_> No the screenshot looks perfect
[10:18] <mgedmin> I have very similar problems on my x200 at home (ubuntu 14.10, gnome 3.14, intel video)
[10:18] <Paddy_NI_> hmm
[10:19] <Paddy_NI_> Does the "Intel Graphics Installer" work on the current "Ubuntu Gnome"
[10:19] <Paddy_NI_> I must check that out
[10:19] <darkxst> not unless they made a new release recently
[10:20] <mgedmin> ha ha my x220 just rebooted
[10:20] <mgedmin> #readyforthedesktop
[10:20] <mgedmin> @!#%@!#
[10:20] <meetingology> mgedmin: Error: "!#%@!#" is not a valid command.
[10:20] <mgedmin> anyway, as I was saying my x200 has video redraw problems
[10:20] <mgedmin> nautilus windows are corrupt sometimes (esp. the left sidebar)
[10:20] <mgedmin> moving the mouse over them makes things appear correctly
[10:20] <mgedmin> I suspect the intel video driver
[10:21] <Paddy_NI_> hmm this article mentions that Ubuntu 14.04 LTS has entered deprecated status
[10:21] <Paddy_NI_> http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2015/03/latest-intel-linux-graphics-drivers-now-available-for-ubuntu-14-10
[10:21] <mgedmin> the x220 has no graphics problems otoh (also intel video, different model probably?)
[10:21] <Paddy_NI_> as far as using the intel driver goes I wonder if it is worth my while
[10:21] <Paddy_NI_> "intel graphics installer" rather
[10:21] <mgedmin> probably not
[10:22] <mgedmin> the best thing (not for you, but for everyone) would be to report a bug in launchpad
[10:22] <Paddy_NI_> mgedmin, The x220 and the T420 are virtually identical regarding hardware
[10:22] <mgedmin> using ubuntu-bug, so it attaches all the relevant system info
[10:22] <darkxst> Paddy_NI_, 14.04 would have got the newer intel drivers with the HWE stack
[10:22] <darkxst> (but that is optional)
[10:22] <mgedmin> then you'll get an automated reply asking to test the latest upstream kernel (because the intel kms driver is part of the kernel)
[10:22] <mgedmin> with clear instructions on how to do so
[10:22] <mgedmin> you'll do that, report the results
[10:22] <mgedmin> and after that nothing will happen
[10:22] <Paddy_NI_> darkxst, So I would have to do something to make it use it?
[10:23] <Paddy_NI_> mgedmin, If I am to file a bug then I should probably do this after lunch/brunch so that I can give it proper attention
[10:24] <darkxst> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kernel/LTSEnablementStack
[10:24] <Paddy_NI_> darkxst, Cool :-)
[10:24] <darkxst> its included in 14.04.2 but if you installed prior to that, you need manual commands
[10:24] <Paddy_NI_> Most likely
[10:26] <Paddy_NI_> darkxst, Unable to locate those packages
[10:27] <Paddy_NI_> darkxst, http://paste.ubuntu.com/10790465/
[10:30] <darkxst> Paddy_NI_, unless you have done something silly like disable trusty-updates, they should be there
[10:30] <Paddy_NI_> darkxst, Nope I have everything enabled
[10:31] <darkxst> packages.ubuntu.com/trusty-updates/xserver-xorg-lts-utopic
[10:31] <darkxst> or you are on 14.10?
[10:32] <Paddy_NI_> Ha
[10:32] <Paddy_NI_> Silly me
[10:32] <Paddy_NI_> Yes
[10:32] <darkxst> Paddy_NI_, you could try the 15.04 daily live image and see if that works better
[10:33] <Paddy_NI_> darkxst, Hmm..
[10:33] <Paddy_NI_> I am a little reluctant - I'll make a decision after lunch :-)
[10:34] <darkxst> Paddy_NI_, why? live image wont change anyhting on your system
[10:34] <darkxst> and besides 15.04 is more stable already than 14.10
[10:34] <Paddy_NI_> darkxst, Oh I thought you meant installing the daily
[10:34] <Paddy_NI_> darkxst, Sounds good
[10:34] <Paddy_NI_> perhaps that is my best option
[10:35] <darkxst> try it and see, if it works, just upgrade
[10:37] <Paddy_NI_> Actually to hell with it, I may as well just perform an upgrade anyway for the fun
[10:37] <Paddy_NI_> I forget the command for upgrading distros
[10:38] <Paddy_NI_> sudo do-release-upgrade -d
[10:40] <Paddy_NI_> "YO Johnny, I'll see in the next life!"
[10:40] <darkxst> I'm already in the next life, wayland style ;)
[10:41] <Paddy_NI_> Ah cool
[10:41] <Paddy_NI_> When will Wayland become the default?
[10:42] <darkxst> maybe by the next LTS
[10:42] <Paddy_NI_> How stable/performant is it?
[10:43] <darkxst> fairly good in 3.16, but still maybe only 95%
[10:43] <Paddy_NI_> :-)
[10:44] <darkxst> window resizing is glitchy
[10:44] <darkxst> I think there are issues cut+pasting between wayland apps and Xwayland apps
[10:45] <Paddy_NI_> I still don't understand why Canonical are opting to create their own
[10:45] <darkxst> drag and drop still not quite fully functional either
[10:45] <Paddy_NI_> Duplication of effort is really regressive behaviour
[10:46] <Paddy_NI_> From an anthropological perspective
[10:46] <darkxst> I don;t see how its regressive?
[10:46] <mgedmin> it's always easier to create something new than to understand something existing
[10:46] <darkxst> but pretty sure they wanted a vertically integrated stack
[10:47] <Paddy_NI_> I see
[10:47] <darkxst> there original plan was to release in 6 months
[10:48] <darkxst> that never ever would have been possible with wayland (disregarding that fact that it was always unlikely to be possible full stop)
[10:48] <Paddy_NI_> Ambitious
[10:49] <Paddy_NI_> It would be nice if something like the DLNA would/could be formed between all these different display standards
[10:50] <darkxst> shuttleworth was a debian developer, but I sometimes wonder if he has any real coding experience
[10:50] <Paddy_NI_> darkxst, Didn't he create VeriSign?
[10:50] <Paddy_NI_> grammar fail
[10:50] <Paddy_NI_> On my part
[10:51] <darkxst> DLNA is rubbish anyway
[10:52] <Paddy_NI_> Without it we would have epic duplication of effort
[10:52] <Paddy_NI_> And zero interoperability
[10:52] <Paddy_NI_> I use UPNP-AV every single day
[10:52] <Paddy_NI_> It's how I consume my media
[10:53] <darkxst> instead we have every player/server having to add quirks for nearly every device
[10:53] <Paddy_NI_> Yes but the user does not have to care about that
[10:53] <Paddy_NI_> As far as they are concerned it's all the same
[10:53] <Paddy_NI_> Gratification is the goal
[10:53] <darkxst> they do, when their device don't work with given program
[10:54] <darkxst> its really like saying ie6 supported web standards, because most sites in existance added hacks to make it work
[10:54] <Paddy_NI_> I do pretty well in my case
[10:54] <Paddy_NI_> IE6 did not really though
[10:55] <Paddy_NI_> They tried to reinvent the wheel so as to create vendor lock-in
[10:56] <Paddy_NI_> My Sony Xperia Z2, Samsung Smart TV, Ubuntu Tower PC and a host of other devices all "just work"
[10:56] <Paddy_NI_> I never have a problem with DLNA
[10:57] <Paddy_NI_> I have also set my family up with Chromecast, BubbleUPNP, BubbleUPNP Server and either Twonky or minidlna depending on OS
[10:57] <Paddy_NI_> They use it almost everyday without issue
[10:59] <darkxst> dlna was a good concept but the execution was poor
[10:59] <Paddy_NI_> darkxst, I guess that depends on the vendor
[10:59] <darkxst> no, you don't see it, because the software is adapting to handles the quirks each vendor has
[11:00] <Paddy_NI_> Yes true
[11:00] <darkxst> that is not how 'standards' are meant to work though
[11:00] <Paddy_NI_> Thus far Samsung has offered the best experience
[11:00] <darkxst> there is still a duplication of effort there
[11:01] <Paddy_NI_> I guess most of the issues are to do with format support
[11:01] <Paddy_NI_> codecs
[11:01] <Paddy_NI_> That I have seen
[11:01] <Paddy_NI_> I have not actually witnessed any other kind of error
[11:01] <Paddy_NI_> regarding upnp-av that is
[11:02] <darkxst> no, codecs are a whole different story
[11:02] <Paddy_NI_> If the vendors stop cheap skating then we should be okay
[11:04] <mgedmin> if https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gfxboot-theme-ubuntu/+bug/1384188 won't be fixed for 15.04, I'll be mildly annoyed :/
[11:04] <Paddy_NI_> :-(
[11:11] <darkxst> mgedmin, were the translations approved in LP?
[11:12] <mgedmin> yes
[11:12] <mgedmin> all this needs is a launchpad export and a package update
[11:12] <mgedmin> I could probably produce a debdiff with updated translations (iirc the source tree has a script that does that), but I've no upload privileges
[11:13] <darkxst> mgedmin, ask on #ubuntu-devel
[11:13] <darkxst> syslinux wont have langpacks
[11:14] <darkxst> so maybe it needs a debdiff to import the changes into the package
[11:15] <mgedmin> asked there two days ago, got this response:
[11:15] <mgedmin> "<seb128> cyphermox, ^ it might be one for you? (updating gfxboot-theme-ubuntu with a new translations export)"
[11:15] <mgedmin> cyphermox never reacted
[11:17] <darkxst> file a bug and/or chase up cyphermox
[11:18] <darkxst> hes usually pretty responsive
[11:20] <Paddy_NI_> darkxst, I actually almost forget the amount of trouble I had early on with dlna
[11:21] <Paddy_NI_> I have developers to that for making up for the shortcomings of the big vendors
[11:21] <Paddy_NI_> *thank
[11:22] <Paddy_NI_> It would be nice to see some form of UPNP-AV integration with GNOME out-of-the-box
[11:25] <darkxst> Paddy_NI_, I don't think totem supports upnp?
[11:25] <darkxst> rhytmbox does, but thats only music from memory
[11:25] <Paddy_NI_> Cool
[11:26] <Paddy_NI_> It would be nice to have something more tightly integrated
[11:26] <Paddy_NI_> I always either install Rygel or minidlna
[11:26] <darkxst> like what?
[11:26] <Paddy_NI_> darkxst, Something akin to "online accounts"
[11:27] <Paddy_NI_> Media Sharing
[11:27] <darkxst> propose it upstream
[11:27] <Paddy_NI_> Toggle for photos, toggle for video, toggle for music
[11:28] <Paddy_NI_> darkxst, That sounds like a plan
[11:29] <Paddy_NI_> Food is needing attention
[11:31] <Paddy_NI_> Tomorrow I will make Seafood Chowder, yum
[11:42] <darkxst> Paddy_NI_ hungry? so planning tomorrows dinner?
[11:44] <Doo_> hello folks
[11:46] <Doo_> i'm coming to you to see if someone has the same bug that I have on 14.10 : when i lock my keyboard, keymap (which is usually azerty) switches to qwerty and i loose all tray icons, i has to restart with alt+f2 / r and then re-swtich keymap with super+space to recover my initial state
[11:46] <Doo_> that's kind of a pita, if someone has solved this
[11:46] <Doo_> i really can use a hint :)
[11:50] <mgedmin> I've heard about the bug where the keyboard layout reverts to us-ascii
[11:51] <mgedmin> (not only heard, I have it)
[11:51] <mgedmin> losing tray icons? no clue
[11:59] <Doo_> that's linked imho (i'm using topicons, btw)
[12:00] <Paddy_NI_> darkxst, I am in the process of preparing a late lunch
[12:01] <darkxst> I had lunch 10 hours ago
[12:01] <Paddy_NI_> darkxst, I have plenty of Salmon left over frozen from yesterday and some smoked and unsmoked river cobbler
[12:01] <darkxst> where are you from?
[12:01] <Paddy_NI_> Also a bag of mixed seafood, prawns etc
[12:01] <Paddy_NI_> darkxst, Northern Ireland
[12:01] <Paddy_NI_> :-)
[12:01] <Paddy_NI_> You?
[12:02] <darkxst> Australia
[12:02] <Paddy_NI_> Google Keep shopping list: Double Cream
[12:02] <Paddy_NI_> This is going to be tasty
[12:02] <Paddy_NI_> Australia will be a destination at some point in my life
[12:03] <Paddy_NI_> Okay the Upgrade has completed, I shall restart and return :-)
[12:07] <Paddy_NI> darkxst, Buttery smooth :-)
[12:07] <Paddy_NI> Lovely
[12:07] <darkxst> Paddy_NI, enjoy
[12:07] <Paddy_NI> This feels right
[15:51] <rgb-one> hello
[17:35] <Paddy_NI> I have upgraded to Ubuntu GNOME 15.04, is there a relatively simple way to get GNOME 3.16?
[18:16] <massiveblue> Hello, i have a boot issue with ubuntu gnome vivid, grub2. Freshly installed sys, last installed package: fglrx-driver
[18:16] <massiveblue> I also have a BootInfo: http://paste.ubuntu.com/10793356/
[18:16] <massiveblue> I only see the grey rectangle after BIOS and nothing happens.
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[18:44] <furkan> tjaalton: my bug report got marked as confirmed and high priority (no idea who confirmed it), but after what you said about qt/gtk, i booted up into fedora 22 alpha (Xorg 1.17.1 + Gnome 3) and was able to reproduce the bug, although it's harder to produce, here's a 10 second vid: https://www.dropbox.com/s/85n2iq27zm00dlo/VID_20150410_033406.mp4?dl=0
[18:44] <furkan> so you're probably right that it's an upstream bug
[18:45] <furkan> except who knows which package
[18:46] <furkan> it's harder to see in the video, but pretty clear near the end of the 10 seconds
[18:46] <furkan> i'm just repeatedly maximizing and restoring a window
[19:27] <tjaalton> just file it on xserver for now
[19:27] <tjaalton> or dri - radeon
[19:28] <tjaalton> hm though you said it was triggered by the xserver upgrade
[19:28] <tjaalton> or file it against the ati driver
[19:28] <tjaalton> it at least has people that look at the bugs
[19:29] <furkan> will do, now that i've reproduced it on 2 distros, they can't say it's an ubuntu bug
[19:33] <furkan> since it doesn't happen w/ fglrx, it could also be a glamor thing
[19:34] <furkan> but i don't have any machines w/ nvidia or intel gfx to test that theory with
[19:34] <furkan> (if i'm correct in assuming that fglrx doesn't use glamor)
[19:47] <tjaalton> it doesn't
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2015-04-10-#ubuntu-server
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[07:04] <YamakasY> morning anyone running percona 5.6 ? I have dependency issues with it
[09:19] <lordievader> Good morning.
[10:38] <ochoroch> lordievader: Good Morning ...
[10:38] <lordievader> o/
[10:38] <ochoroch> ;-) ...
[10:46] <rbasak> kickinz1: looking at Docker now. Can I see the format-patch output or your git tree please? Is this up-to-date on docker-dev?
[10:47] <kickinz1> rbasak, I think so let me check
[11:16] <kickinz1> rbasak, docker-dev up-to-date
[11:42] <LeMike> Hello . What do you do when a message comes in, that you send packages to a arbitrary control server? They only give you the source IP which is the firewall. That is like searching the needle in a haystack.
[12:57] <lucidguy> Putting together an NFS server. 12x 6TB disks via raid controller/raid60. XFS filessytem. Will only serve as an NFS server, do I bother with anyont more then 8GB of ram?
[13:00] <OpenTokix> lucidguy: That is more depended on the amount of clients
[13:01] <lucidguy> Probably around 60 clients
[13:01] <OpenTokix> Then 8G should be more then enough - however, the more ram you have - the more will get cached in ram
[13:01] <OpenTokix> will speed up reads
[13:02] <OpenTokix> I guess it wil be on 1Gbps?
[13:02] <lucidguy> Yes.
[13:04] <OpenTokix> more ram is always more ram for cache, but I think 8G will be sufficien t
[13:10] <lucidguy> I agree
[13:20] <patdk-wk> I would be more concerned about writes to the raid60
[13:20] <patdk-wk> and our stripe size
[13:21] <patdk-wk> to determine how much ram you need, overtop of your working set size
[13:23] <rbasak> kickinz1: failed to build on powerpc: https://launchpadlibrarian.net/202757945/buildlog_ubuntu-vivid-powerpc.docker.io_1.5.0~dfsg1-1ubuntu1_BUILDING.txt.gz
[13:23] <rbasak> I don't know if we care or not.
[13:25] <kickinz1> rbasak: I don't know either.
[13:36] <hallyn> stgraber: lxc in vivid still needs commit 89a4ec737e97fdf2856fda94b816875e98155c82
[14:00] <excalibr> Upstart question again, why is it job with script stanza only eventually goes into stop/waiting state after being started?
[14:01] <excalibr> while with pre/post-start, it remains in start/running and block further start invocation once started
[14:54] <stgraber> hallyn: did you talk to wgrant? he pinged me about that very issue last night :)
[14:54] <stgraber> hallyn: anyway, I plan on tagging 1.1.2 today which will include this
[14:58] <Voyage> HI
[15:32] <Ameurux> hello
[15:33] <hallyn> stgraber: no, i was just checking to see if my running-in-container update fully fixed nested lxc
[15:34] <hallyn> excellent, thx
[15:39] <strikov> rbasak: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/trusty/+source/openldap/+bug/1103353
[15:39] <strikov> rbasak: won't fix it please
[15:40] <strikov> rbasak: issues mention at #19 seems to happen only when you install this package over your own one built against openssl not gnutls
[15:40] <strikov> rbasak: which means that my point at #18 is still valid
[15:43] <rbasak> strikov: done
[15:43] <strikov> rbasak: tnx
[15:43] <strikov> rbasak: i'll put a final note there in a minute
[15:45] <strikov> rbasak: ah, you put one already, thanks!
[15:45] <rbasak> :)
[16:46] <lucidguy> Raid question. 12 disk raid10 array. Technically I can lose a total of 6 disks and the array will stay online. What if I loose two disks of the same pair? Array is gone?
[16:59] <teward> stupid question, and I think rbasak and sarnold may want to weigh in, but would anyone hate me if I made a catch-all bug for "Can I get somemodule added to nginx?" (where somemodule is any module the community wants)
[17:00] <teward> (it'd apply to my ppas project where I do bugtracking on the staging PPAs, the nginx project on LP, and the Ubuntu package)
[17:02] <teward> the only reason I asked is because I've seen this request a thousand times in my email or in Debian, and want a catchall down here that says Debian should include it first, or at least get a voice
[17:02] <teward> (same idea of including a new package somewhere, in that it's easier to get it into Ubuntu via Debian)
[17:10] <rbasak> teward: sounds like you actually want an FAQ entry or template standard response instead of a bug itself?
[17:11] <rbasak> teward: I don't think anybody will object if you manage nginx bugs how you please though. We appreciate that you do look after them.
[17:11] <gQuigs> is there a way to get changelogs from the ubuntu cloud archive without installing it? (like packages.ubuntu.com or launchpad ppas)
[17:13] <teward> rbasak: considering the number of feature reqs in Debian, yes.
[17:13] <teward> rbasak: I should set up a wiki page for NGINX xD
[17:13] <rbasak> gQuigs: I think they're managed in bzr somewhere? If so you could find that in a browser somewhere. I don't know where that might be though. Does Vcs-Browser point to anything on an installed package?
[17:14] <teward> rbasak: the big idea here is we don't want to *increase* the delta between debian and Ubuntu, so... since i see the requests *way* too often, thought I'd preempt em.
[17:16] <teward> rbasak: done though :)
[18:50] <mpanetta> Hey peeps, quick question. My google foo has failed me on this one, so hopefully someone can help...
[18:50] <mpanetta> I have a question that google is failing me on... How do I have 2 separate DHCP configured interfaces (eth0, eth1) and only set the resolv.conf entries for eth0?
[18:50] <mpanetta> eth1 keeps overwriting resolv.conf when it comes up, with info that is not valid :(
[18:51] <sarnold> mpanetta: maybe uninstall resolvconf and manage it yourself?
[18:52] <mpanetta> I don't seem to have resolveconf installed. At least the dir does not exist in /etc
[18:53] <concord> Just upgraded a VM server to v15.04 and VMware tools doesn't seem to like systemd. Install is failing. Any tricks?
[18:53] <sarnold> mpanetta: check dpkg -l resolvconf
[18:53] <mpanetta> sarnold: says un, so not installed
[18:54] <sarnold> mpanetta: aha
[18:55] <mpanetta> hmm, I think dhclient may be editing it for me?
[18:55] <mpanetta> I could chatrr it +i I suppose
[18:55] <mpanetta> er chattr
[18:55] <mpanetta> Seems kinda like a hack tho
[18:56] <teward> in theory you could set dns-nameservers for both interfaces in /etc/network/interfaces to be the DNS servers you want... but, no guarantee.
[18:56] <teward> i'd test but i have to finish updating my VM labs :p
[18:57] <mpanetta> teward: Yeah, it seems to ignore that
[18:57] <sarnold> there may be a way in /etc/network/services to set what you like.. I've never had to fight this one though, I'm running short o nideas fast
[18:57] <teward> mpanetta: which release is this
[18:57] <teward> 14.04? etc.
[18:58] <mpanetta> I've read that I can disable the dhclient from requesting that info, maybe that will help...
[18:58] <mpanetta> teward: Yes 14.04
[19:00] <sarnold> I know that the protocol allows it, whether the config files make it easy is another matter :)
[19:00] <mpanetta> Actually let me try that...
[19:00] <mpanetta> sarnold: We are about to find out ;)
[19:00] <mdeslaur> My guess would be to list the specific interfaces in their own section in /etc/dhcp/dhclient.conf
[19:01] <mdeslaur> and not request domain-name-servers for the interface you don't want
[19:01] <concord> Ubuntu server has switched to systemd, no? Now I'm unable to install vmware-tools. Getting the following error: "initctl: Unable to connect to Upstart: Failed to connect to socket /com/ubuntu/upstart: Connection refused" Any help?
[19:01] <mdeslaur> or, alternatively, just add a global "prepend domain-name-servers 8.8.8.8;" in there
[19:02] <mpanetta> Woop ok removing dns-servers and so forth from the request line in dhclient.conf fixed it
[19:02] <sarnold> concord: please file a bug against the vmware-tools package, add the systemd-boot tag to the bug
[19:02] <mpanetta> teward: sarnold mdeslaur: thanks for the help!
[19:03] <concord> sarnold: this is a package from vmware, not an ubuntu package
[19:03] <concord> I'm trying to install in server v.15.04
[19:03] <sarnold> concord: hunh, I thought it was in our archive these days
[19:03] <concord> Yea?
[19:03] <concord> Hmmmmm
[19:04] <sarnold> concord: Y
[19:04] <sarnold> concord: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/open-vm-tools
[19:05] <concord> sarnold: I will give that a try, this is vSphere 5.0.0, shouldn't matter?
[19:05] <sarnold> concord: sorry, no idea there
[19:05] <concord> sarnold: thank you!
[19:06] <sarnold> concord: if it doesn't work out and vmware doesn't get around to fixing it soon enough, I think upstart will still be available as a fallback https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SystemdForUpstartUsers#Switching_init_systems
[19:08] <teward> sarnold: concord: vmware-tools i think won't build under the later kernels in 14.10 and later
[19:08] <teward> although they updated vmware-tools lately from the vmware tools ISO, and I haven't tested since
[19:08] <teward> open-vm-tools should work for most of the functions otherwise though
[19:32] <concord> teward: sarnold: I have installed the package and vCenter reports that HA is up and running, although it does clearly say that vmware tools are "3rd-Party/Independent" and not genuine VMware so I'm guessing support is out the window. But hey ... that's what you guys are for!
[19:32] <concord> :)
[19:35] <sarnold> concord: interesting, they asked for the packages to be moved to main..
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[00:00] <sil2100> ToyKeeper: the image is now building, the imgbot should pick it up soon
[00:00] <sil2100> pmcgowan: ^ new promotion candidate is building
[00:05] <imgbot> [00:10] <sil2100> ToyKeeper: so, once #269 finishes building, do you know if jibel wanted to have sanity tests ran on it? I suppose so, right?
[00:10] <sil2100> ToyKeeper: so sanity + oxide testing would need to be done
[00:10] <sil2100> ...and the custom tarball bits as well
[00:11] <ToyKeeper> sil2100: Yes, that's the plan. :)
[00:11] <ToyKeeper> Sanity, two bug fixes, anything else related to the changes.
[00:12] <sil2100> Excellent
[00:12] <sil2100> Thanks for picking this up :)
[00:12] <sil2100> Time for me to finally go to sleep
[00:12] <sil2100> o/
[00:21] <lool> robru: I've merged and uploaded
[00:22] <robru> lool: k, just click build on the silo then. And do whatever testing is appropriate
[00:22] <lool> robru: it's waiting for approval in queue now; I guess you can kill the silo
[00:22] <lool> robru: sorry, I've uploaded to *distro*
[00:22] <lool> not to silo
[00:23] <robru> lool: oh, even better, thanks ;-)
[00:24] <robru> elopio: no qa for autopilot?
[00:27] <veebers> robru: elopio: we did the qa with a couple of gatekeeper job runs
[00:27] <robru> veebers: oh, is not marked as approved by qa
[00:28] <robru> veebers: I'll publish if you say it's good though
[00:28] <veebers> robru: please (both elopio and myself are QA and we approve ^_^)
[00:28] <robru> veebers: ahhhhhhhhhhhhhh sorry i forgot elopio /is/ qa ;-)
[00:28] <robru> Publishing
[00:32] <robru> Wow, four free silos, anybody want one?
[00:40] <veebers> robru: nw
[01:40] <imgbot> [01:40] <imgbot> [02:03] <ToyKeeper> Woot, there it is. :)
[02:10] <imgbot> [03:45] <imgbot> [03:45] <imgbot> [05:13] <Mirv> kgunn: only now
[05:17] <Mirv> Trevinho: there seems to be a new superseding MP now so probably no need for an action from me. note that I just reflected the fact that the landing was stated to be canceled in the landing spreadsheet, so you'd probably need to ping ted_g again to land it
[07:22] <dbarth> good morning
[07:23] <dbarth> trainguards, i'm looking for help respinning an amd64 build associated with silo 28
[07:24] <dbarth> there were temp build issues still yesterday, and that's all it takes to finish get this silo ready (all other arches packaged fine in the end)
[07:25] <Mirv> dbarth: do you mean ppc64el?
[07:26] <Mirv> that's all I can see having failed https://launchpad.net/~ci-train-ppa-service/+archive/ubuntu/landing-028/+packages
[07:26] <Mirv> I kicked a rebuild of that if that failing test is flaky
[07:28] <dbarth> Mirv: ah yes, now that's ppc64
[07:29] <dbarth> thanks
[08:07] <Mirv> dbarth_: hey, you shouldn't have kicked a new build, now there's again a flaky build. please just let's retry in the PPA until they build, and at that point run watch_only instead of rebuilding the others... ppc64el _was_ ok :)
[08:14] <popey> jibel: could you please move this card back to 'needs qa sign off'? https://trello.com/c/DUeVwfPn/1321-ubuntu-rtm-reminders-app-popey
[08:14] <oSoMoN> trainguards: good morning! can I have a silo for line 57, please?
[08:21] <jibel> popey, new card added
[08:21] <popey> magic, thanks
[08:22] <Mirv> oSoMoN: there you go, Mr. Bond.
[08:25] <dbarth_> Mirv: i didn't restart a build; i precisely asked to have it rebuilt at the ppa level; that's why i was confused to see amd64 vs ppc64 now failing
[08:25] <dbarth_> fingers crossed
[08:26] <oSoMoN> Mirv, thanks :)
[08:26] <Mirv> dbarth_: the "rebuild" means "rebuild all archs", while what I was doing is "rebuild 1 arch". so since you rebuilt all archs with a new upload, now it happened that ppc64el succeeded and amd64 failed. what I mean that I manually restart single arch builds until it works and then we'd run watch_only build.
[08:26] <Mirv> dbarth_: for a moment though the ppc64el had succeeded before you restarted all archs and then amd64 failed
[08:27] <Mirv> I'm kicking now a fourth amd64 rebuild
[08:27] <Mirv> it has failed a couple of times already
[08:33] <dbarth_> ok
[08:34] <Mirv> dbarth_: oh, now you reuploaded one more :)
[08:34] <Mirv> but the amd64 was still failing so it doesn't matter
[08:49] <Mirv> dbarth_: now it failed on 3 archs instead of 1 :( please just don't press any buttons so I can try to rebuild them and run the build job with watch_only for you when it's ready
[08:49] <jibel> davmor2, I confirm that after upgrading to 269 the hint screen is displayed on the today scope, can you confirm it?
[08:50] <Mirv> chrisccoulson: re: Oxide - there are different options for rtm and one will be selecter later doay. can you think if anything would need a pre-build in anticipation that it'd be selected? I mean, to save 5h+ build time when the decision is actually made.
[08:50] <Mirv> hmm, lots of typos. s/selecter/selected/, /doay/today/
[08:52] <dbarth_> Mirv: i'm playing hands off now
[08:53] <dbarth_> Mirv: but seriously there's something odd, cause i was not pushing buttons there; a ghost, or a script going crazy?
[08:56] <Mirv> dbarth_: oh! it's mardy!
[08:56] <Mirv> mardy: stop doing that! :D
[08:56] <Mirv> https://ci-train.ubuntu.com/job/ubuntu-landing-028-1-build/52/
[08:56] <Mirv> dbarth_: I just assumed it was you :)
[08:56] <Mirv> a ghost called mardy
[08:56] <mardy> Mirv: ah, sorry!
[08:57] <mardy> Mirv: OK, I won't touch any buttons :-)
[08:57] <Mirv> that's fun, all the miscommunication because of a wrong assumption :)
[08:58] <dbarth_> gosh
[08:58] <dbarth_> mardy: hey i told you i was on it ;)
[09:00] <dbarth_> Mirv: while we're at it, silo 23 landed but the branches are not merged yet
[09:02] <dbarth_> jibel: hi; i have silo 17 marked for a qa handoff, but it doesn't show up on the signoff dashboard
[09:03] <dbarth_> jibel: is that manual? can i do something to accellerate?
[09:07] <Mirv> dbarth_: ok there's a autopkgtest problem, I try kicking it
[09:08] <Mirv> dbarth_: that is, it's still in proposed pocket
[09:11] <jibel> dbarth_, more coffee maybe, created an hour ago https://trello.com/c/6g6zflrH/1365-ubuntu-landing-017-ubuntu-html5-theme-webbrowser-app-dbarth-alex-abreu
[09:21] <sil2100> jibel: how's 269 going?
[09:24] <Mirv> dbarth_: mardy ^ done
[09:25] <mardy> Mirv: \o/ thanks! :-)
[09:27] <davmor2> sil2100: it broke hard
[09:30] <dbarth_> \o/
[09:31] <sil2100> davmor2: really?
[09:32] <sil2100> davmor2: what's broken? We need a respin?
[09:32] <sil2100> oxide is busted? Do we have anyone working on it? This will delay everything I suppose, 1.6 was our only option - besides reverting to 1.2
[09:32] <ogra_> sil2100, oxide isnt usable
[09:33] <ogra_> non mobile websites make it crash hard if you zoom
[09:33] <sil2100> Damn
[09:33] <davmor2> sil2100: browser is fully zoomed in on desktop sites and you can't zoom out, also jibel hit an issue with upgrade that I'm failing to confirm currently
[09:33] <davmor2> ogra_: you can't zoom
[09:33] <ogra_> thats what i said
[09:33] <ogra_> :)
[09:34] <sil2100> jibel, ogra_, davmor2: should we try an oxide revert to 1.2 then? Or is chrisccoulson looking into fixing this?
[09:34] <ogra_> sil2100, not sure ...
[09:35] <rvr> https://bugs.launchpad.net/oxide/+bug/1442458
[09:35] <ogra_> (i'm nozt sure chrisccoulson has been contacted yet)
[09:35] <davmor2> sil2100: currently we figure it is not a decision for us to make
[09:35] <rvr> ogra_: He commented
[09:35] <ogra_> yup, i see that
[09:35] <rvr> on that bug some minutes ago
[09:35] <ogra_> didnt know about that bug :)
[09:37] <sil2100> chrisccoulson: hey, is there anything we can do to get this working then?
[09:38] <ogra_> wait for 1.7 ?
[09:39] <sil2100> To make any serious decisions like these we would need pmcgowan around
[09:43] <chrisccoulson> I'm working on it, but I need to wait for my local arm tree to build
[09:48] <sil2100> chrisccoulson: thanks, keep us updated :)
[09:48] * sil2100 continues his errands
[09:54] <jibel> sil2100, it means that 1.6 has not been well tested and is not ready for release even if this bug is fixed there are probably others. I wouldn't land it in vivid in this state and certainly not in RTM. That's a discussion we must have with pmcgowan
[11:19] <pmcgowan> chrisccoulson, do we have a way to patch 1.5.5?
[11:20] <pmcgowan> sil2100, morning
[11:25] <pmcgowan> biab
[11:26] <ogra_> http://i.imgur.com/xq472i3.png i wonder if can make it survive 8 days :)
[11:27] <Mirv> dbarth_: you probably noticed but 023 finalized migration ie. that rekicked autopkgtest worked
[11:46] <dbarth_> Mirv: ah, splendid!
[11:47] <dbarth_> Mirv: if we had a test branch to that difficult silo from this morning, the reconfig won't invalidate the signon package, will it?
[11:47] <dbarth_> the additional branch has tests that can help validate the rest of the silo in particular
[11:57] <Mirv> dbarth_: yes, reconfig is fine, just always write the package name to the packages field when running build
[12:15] <dbarth_> Mirv: ok; ready for a reconfig of silo 28 with that additional branch
[12:15] <dbarth_> Mirv: i'll just rebuild that extra one
[12:17] <Mirv> dbarth_: reconfig done, so run build for uoa-integration-tests
[12:18] <Kaleo> brendand, hey sir, does https://bugs.launchpad.net/camera-app/+bug/1411782 still occur for you?
[12:23] <brendand> Kaleo, haven't tried in a long time
[12:23] <brendand> Kaleo, i'll check in a minute
[12:23] <Kaleo> brendand, thanks
[12:27] <rvr> popey: reminders-app displays fine the one-line note
[12:27] <popey> thanks rvr
[12:27] <popey> is that a +1 for upload?
[12:27] <rvr> popey: Can you update the translation?
[12:27] <popey> i can
[12:28] <popey> r407 will have es, fa, nl and sl updates
[12:28] <rvr> Cool!
[12:28] <popey> do you want to test that?
[12:28] <popey> to confirm?
[12:28] <rvr> popey: Yeah
[12:28] <popey> ok, one mo
[12:29] <popey> rvr: http://people.canonical.com/~alan/reminders/com.ubuntu.reminders_0.5.407_armhf.click
[12:29] <rvr> That was quick!
[12:29] <rvr> Downloading
[12:49] <brendand> Kaleo, i guess it's gone now
[12:50] <Kaleo> brendand, wonderful :) I think a fix of mine did the trick
[12:50] <sil2100> pmcgowan, jibel: I guess besides distro-patching 1.5 with the fix we only have the option of reverting back to 1.2
[12:51] <pmcgowan> mterry, has a branch we can use
[12:51] <pmcgowan> sil2100, ^^
[12:51] <pmcgowan> we need chrisccoulson I think to bless and build?
[12:51] <sil2100> A branch for oxide?
[12:51] <mterry> sil2100, yes
[12:52] <sil2100> mterry: is it a branch for 1.5.5? Or fo 1.6.2?
[12:52] <mterry> sil2100, but these oxide branches don't have debian/ in them?
[12:52] <mterry> sil2100, for lp:oxide/1.5
[12:52] <mterry> https://code.launchpad.net/~mterry/oxide/mirserver-1.5/+merge/255819
[12:53] <sil2100> Damn, we'll have to mangle the version then
[12:54] <sil2100> Yesterday's decisions were very risky and troublesome if things go wrong
[12:54] <sil2100> And they went wrong
[12:54] <sil2100> So now we'll have to release a 1.6.5.is.1.5.5 version or similar for ubuntu-rtm ;/
[12:54] <sil2100> chrisccoulson: ^
[12:56] <lool> sil2100: heya, is there a way to request a rebuild of a branch (no new merge proposal) into vivid?
[12:57] <lool> or should I create a dumb empty one?
[13:00] <sil2100> lool: the best way is to do an empty merge
[13:01] <lool> sil2100: ok thanks
[13:03] <lool> sil2100: oh actually sorry, I see I can do a sync; I somehow thought the rtm version was smaller but it' shigher
[13:06] <rvr> popey: http://people.canonical.com/~vrruiz/reminders-app-evernote.png
[13:07] <rvr> popey: I see nothing to translate in Launchpad
[13:07] <popey> mzanetti: ^
[13:08] <popey> rvr: can you file a bug pls?
[13:08] <rvr> popey: Yup
[13:10] <mzanetti> thanks
[13:12] <rvr> popey: mzanetti: https://bugs.launchpad.net/reminders-app/+bug/1442614
[13:12] <popey> thanks rvr
[13:12] <mzanetti> thanks rvr
[13:12] <rvr> mzanetti vs mzanetti!
[13:12] <popey> \o/
[13:12] <popey> NOBODY WINS!
[13:12] <mzanetti> ?
[13:13] <rvr> mzanetti: Hurry up, you must destroy the bugs before they enter the distro!
[13:13] <mzanetti> :)
[13:14] <mzanetti> rvr, good thing reminders doesn't enter the distro, just the app store :D
[13:14] <mzanetti> and then the bugs are at least confined
[13:15] <rvr> mzanetti: Just kidding
[13:15] <rvr> mzanetti: I loved Machines vs Machines :)
[13:15] <mzanetti> nice to hear :)
[13:16] <rvr> Are you planning any other game?
[13:16] <mzanetti> rvr, definitely not one that requires sooo much efforts
[13:16] <mzanetti> took me almost a year to get m-vs-m done
[13:17] <mzanetti> and I didn't paint any graphics... mivoligo's time needs to be added on top
[13:17] <davmor2> rvr: read mzanetti guide to adding more levels :)
[13:17] <sil2100> Machines vs Machines was the game that made my girlfriend like Ubuntu Touch
[13:17] <mzanetti> hah
[13:17] <cwayne_> sil2100, mine was dropping letters :)
[13:18] <davmor2> mzanetti: that's it, it's GirlFriend Friendly you can't leave it there ;)
[13:18] <mzanetti> too bad dropping letters only works in english
[13:19] <davmor2> sil2100: see if she likes uu then you really can pick on mzanetti to make more ;)
[13:20] <kenvandine> mzanetti, hopefully you could create something cool more easily now if you used bacon2d, instead of rolling your own :)
[13:20] <kenvandine> i'd love to see another game from mzanetti!
[13:21] <mzanetti> we'll see... I did have a play with bacon2d but I found it somewhat limiting. it works great for some simple things, but if you need something that's not supporte ootb, it gets a pain to get it done
[13:22] <kenvandine> mzanetti, yeah, depends on what you're looking for
[13:22] <mzanetti> maybe I just used it wrong
[13:22] <kenvandine> we need some more behaviors for sure
[13:22] <kenvandine> i'd love to hear what you were trying to do
[13:22] <kenvandine> that'd be better for #bacon2d though :)
[13:24] <chrisccoulson> pmcgowan, mterry, sil2100, the change in https://code.launchpad.net/~mterry/oxide/mirserver-1.5/+merge/255819 is not right for 1.5
[13:24] <mterry> chrisccoulson, yeah I remember you saying there was a complication, but I couldn't find it in an email
[13:24] <chrisccoulson> the right fix for 1.5 (as is in 1.6) is to disable GPU access entirely when the platform is mirserver
[13:25] <mterry> chrisccoulson, is that hard/
[13:25] <pmcgowan> which is the same as what we had in 1.2?
[13:25] <mterry> ?
[13:26] <chrisccoulson> pmcgowan, I don't understand why people keep mentioning 1.2. 1.2 is ancient, and has the same issue as 1.5 (unrecognized platforms result in us turning on the osmesa backend in Chromium)
[13:26] <chrisccoulson> This hasn't changed
[13:27] <chrisccoulson> I'm pretty sure the browser won't even run with 1.2 anymore
[13:27] <pmcgowan> chrisccoulson, I was assuming that this crash did not occur and we could see the terms page from the wizard
[13:28] <pmcgowan> to be clear we dont want 1.2, just trying to understand when the issue appeared and safest fix
[13:32] <mterry> chrisccoulson, yeah I am also confused on when this bug appeared. terms & conditions used to work
[13:32] <mterry> but that's not super relevant rightnow
[13:32] <mterry> chrisccoulson, is it difficult to disable GPU access entirely in mirserver mode?
[13:34] <chrisccoulson> mterry, this is the one that fixes it, although it wasn't the original intention of the change http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~oxide-developers/oxide/1.6/revision/944
[13:37] <pmcgowan> chrisccoulson, mterry we need to decide if putting those changes into 1.5.5 is a better plan than fixing and testing 1.6
[13:37] <chrisccoulson> well, 1.6 is fixed already ;)
[13:37] <mterry> chrisccoulson, did you see that there were some regressions found in 1.6? Do you know how easy those might be to fix / how risky the 1.6 landing is?
[13:38] <chrisccoulson> mterry, I've only been made aware of 1 regression, which I've fixed already
[13:39] <sil2100> chrisccoulson: how well tested is 1.6 then?
[13:40] <sil2100> Since we already have it in rtm and it might be easiest to just get the fixes in and roll with it, but we need to be sure that it has no risk involved
[13:40] <sil2100> Because 14.09 is essentially what the phone users get
[13:40] * sil2100 thought that releases like these are well tested anyway
[13:42] <dbarth_> hmm, apparently, there is another build issue getting the source tarball in that famous silo 28
[13:44] <chrisccoulson> sil2100, well, I mostly test what I work on in trunk (which is currently 1.7). But this was trunk until 11th March, and has only had changes that fix high severity issues since (basically http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~oxide-developers/oxide/1.6/revision/1017, http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~oxide-developers/oxide/1.6/revision/1021, http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~oxide-developers/oxide/1.6/revision/1022, http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~oxid
[13:44] <chrisccoulson> e-developers/oxide/1.6/revision/1024, http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~oxide-developers/oxide/1.6/revision/1025)
[13:46] <pmcgowan> chrisccoulson, do you have a new build with your fix coming then?
[13:46] <chrisccoulson> pmcgowan, yeah. It takes a little while to create the tarball though :)
[13:46] <sil2100> ;)
[13:46] <chrisccoulson> I've stopped everything else so my machine can go as quick as it can
[13:47] <sil2100> chrisccoulson: thanks!
[13:47] <sil2100> Greatly appreciated
[14:08] * sil2100 off again
[14:17] <mardy> Mirv: gpg error again: https://ci-train.ubuntu.com/job/ubuntu-landing-028-1-build/55/console
[15:35] <ted> trainguards, could I get silos for lines 63 and 64 please?
[16:15] <Mirv> ted: all full, but I just published one so robert should be able to assign you at least one later
[16:16] <kenvandine> sil2100, i need up upload a fix for syncevolution for silo 30, which is just a dput
[16:16] <kenvandine> the previous upload never got published
[16:17] <kenvandine> so i don't want to bump the revision, since it never made it to vivid
[16:17] <kenvandine> sil2100, i tried just deleting the current package from the PPA, but of course it still rejects it because it knows that version was uploaded to it before
[16:18] <kenvandine> sil2100, if i delete the silo and create a new one, would it let me upload the same version with different contents?
[16:20] <Mirv> kenvandine: the only possibility is to trick by assigning another silo and uploading there, then cleaning the old one. robru should be able to help with that too when 006 is available and then ted would get 030
[16:21] <cyphermox> psivaa_: can you please check why it seems the installer / vm isn't ever starting lately for the Smoke Testing vivid-desktop-amd64-smoke-default job?
[16:21] <Mirv> the same silo can't be reused no matter what
[16:21] <robru> kenvandine: in theory, yeah, except there are no free silos, so if you free and reassign you'll just get the same ppa back again
[16:21] <kenvandine> oh... no free silos :/
[16:22] <kenvandine> robru, can i get dibs on silo 6 then? since i'll be giving up silo 30?
[16:22] <robru> kenvandine: I blame SRUs, of which there are 4, and two of them have just been sitting for a month
[16:22] <robru> kenvandine: sure
[16:23] <kenvandine> robru, it's line 40 on the spreadsheet, syncevolution
[16:23] <psivaa_> cyphermox: I'm about to finish in a few minutes, would you mind cihelp for this please?
[16:23] <kenvandine> robru, will you assign that when it's available?
[16:23] <robru> kenvandine: sure
[16:23] <kenvandine> robru, thx!
[16:23] <kenvandine> renatu, ^^
[16:23] <robru> kenvandine: you're welcome. should I free 30 then?
[16:24] <cyphermox> cihelp: could someone please check why it seems the installer / vm isn't ever starting lately for the Smoke Testing vivid-desktop-amd64-smoke-default job?
[16:24] <kenvandine> renatu, i'll upload that once robru does his thing :)
[16:24] <kenvandine> robru, you can
[16:24] <robru> k
[16:24] <kenvandine> as long as we'll get 6 :)
[16:25] * Mirv sees robru, goes back to living room mode
[16:25] <robru> ted: one silo freed up, do you have a preference for which landing you want to do first?
[16:25] <robru> Mirv: morning ;-)
[16:25] <renatu> kenvandine, thanks
[16:25] <Mirv> robru: morning!
[16:36] <bregma> trainguards, could I get a reconfigure for line 54 (silo ubuntu/landing-014) please?
[16:37] <robru> bregma: on it
[16:39] <robru> Mirv: can I free 18? we're really tight
[16:40] <robru> dbarth: alex_abreu: what's the deal with webbrowser-app in silos 3 and 22? they're dirty and then you have another one in 17 that's awaiting qa. can you combine those? or can I just free 3 and 22 for now since other people are waiting for silos?
[16:41] <alex_abreu> robru, I'll rebuild silo 3 (it is a testing silo pending review), same for silo 22
[16:42] <alex_abreu> robru, we cannot combine them
[16:42] <robru> alex_abreu: you read my mind,ok ;-)
[16:43] <robru> stupid 29 free rtm silos. useless!
[16:44] <robru> boiko: poke about messaging-app in silo 29. are you using that? can I free it? we've run out
[16:51] <ted> robru, The UAL one. The other is more to tide us over until W opens.
[16:56] <robru> ted: heh, ok. with the crazy silo crunch we have right now I don't think I can justify assigning any silos for W. you got UAL in silo 30 for now
[16:57] <ted> robru, Hmm, okay. Is there a way to add silos? In general, we just need a place to collaborate.
[16:57] <boiko> robru: sorry, I was out for lunch, so, I am finishing testing it
[16:58] * ogra_ always thought we couldnt use a new distro in LP until it has the actual name set up
[16:58] <boiko> robru: you can free silo 21 though, we can get it later to continue testing, that's fine
[16:58] <ogra_> did that change ?
[16:59] <robru> ogra_: no I think these W silos are just building in vivid for early testing before rebuilding for W later
[16:59] <robru> boiko: thanks
[16:59] <ogra_> ah
[17:00] <ted> Yeah, that was the goal. It's a feature, so it isn't for vivid.
[17:00] <robru> kenvandine: ok you got silo 21 for syncevolution
[17:03] <kenvandine> robru, thx!
[17:03] <robru> kenvandine: you're welcome
[17:03] <boiko> robru: I assume om26er is finishing his tests on silo 009 too, so that one is likely to be available if he is happy about it
[17:03] <robru> boiko: great
[17:04] <kenvandine> bfiller, renatu: i uploaded syncevolution to silo 21 and kicked off a watch only build job
[17:05] <psivaa_> cyphermox: just had a brief look at the installation, there seems to be an issue during the installation. Stuck at 'Reticulating splines' stage. I do not have more logs/ information on this. sorry
[17:05] <psivaa_> i really need to go now
[17:06] <robru> bregma: ping
[17:06] <bregma> ungh?
[17:08] <robru> bregma: hey, regarding your two trusty SRUs, I see they're both in proposed. is it ok with you if I free those silos? the packages won't be lost from trusty-proposed, it just means you'll have to manually merge your trusty branches later when the SRUs complete. it's just that we're super-crunched for silos right now and these are the two oldest ones.
[17:09] <bregma> is the list of MPs saved in the spreadsheet sdomewhere so I can consult it for manual merge?
[17:10] <robru> bregma: yeah, but even better, the train has pre-merged them for you (also with the debian changelog entry you need) so it's really just one branch you need to push at the end. I can email you the branch locations
[17:10] <bregma> mo better even
[17:10] <robru> bregma: sweet, thanks
[17:10] <bregma> OK, I'm hip wid that
[17:11] <josepht> cyphermox: I'm in a meeting now, but I'll look into it.
[17:12] <robru> bregma: ok, email sent! freeing silos! thanks again ;-)
[17:14] <robru> ralsina: lool: are either of you actually around to use a silo if I give you one?
[17:14] <ralsina> robru: yes
[17:14] <robru> ralsina: sweet, one sec
[17:15] <robru> ralsina: alright you got silo 2
[17:15] <ralsina> awesome, thx
[17:16] <robru> you're welcome
[17:20] <bfiller> kenvandine: thanks
[17:21] <robru> jgdx: what's the deal with those two spreadsheet rows you have? do you need a silo?
[17:25] <jgdx> robru, yea
[17:26] <robru> jgdx: why are there two rows? can you combine them into one?
[17:27] <jgdx> robru, one sec
[17:27] <jgdx> kenvandine, what do you think about combining rows 32, 31?
[17:27] <jgdx> seb128, you still around?
[17:27] <robru> jgdx: thanks. partly we're short on silos so it's hard to justify assigning two silos, partly it's difficult to coordinate two conflicting silos for the same package like that
[17:28] <jgdx> robru, rog
[17:28] * kenvandine looks
[17:28] <kenvandine> jgdx, that's fine
[17:31] <jgdx> robru, updated, one silo.
[17:31] <robru> jgdx: thanks
[17:31] <jgdx> thank you
[17:32] <robru> jgdx: ok, you got silo 6. you're welcome!
[17:32] <jgdx> robru, thank you sir
[17:33] <seb128> jgdx, not really no, why?
[17:33] <robru> jgdx: you're welcome
[17:33] <jgdx> seb128, wondering if you're okay with me squeezing battery refresh and bluetooth null device branches into a silo with other uss fixes
[17:33] <jgdx> but let's try it
[17:34] <kenvandine> serious silo shortage
[17:45] <seb128> jgdx, yeah, sure
[17:45] <sil2100> pmcgowan, chrisccoulson, jibel: what's the current status?
[17:45] <sil2100> I just got back, had a really tiring ride home
[17:47] <robru> jgdx: you have to click build on silo 6 ;-)
[18:01] <jibel> sil2100, 3 online account tests left on the regression test plan of 269, test plans of webbrowser and webcontainer fully passed with oxide 1.6 excepted the known 'zoom out' issue, test plan of webapps in progress, url with intent doesn't work with google maps, alex_abreu is trying to reproduce apparently. You can track the progress on the qa board
[18:02] <jibel> sil2100, now waiting for 270 to re-run the sanity testsuite
[18:02] <jibel> sil2100, 270 = 269 + zoom fix
[18:02] <alex_abreu> jibel, yes it does work (gmaps), the thing is that the test case is not valid anymore, gmaps has changed the content of the served website (there are no more intent:// url)
[18:02] <alex_abreu> jibel, welcome to webapps :)
[18:03] <jibel> alex_abreu, nice, thanks.
[18:04] <jibel> sil2100, ^ everything appears copacetic
[18:05] <sil2100> \o/
[18:06] <sil2100> Is the new oxide with the zoom fix still building?
[18:06] <jibel> chrisccoulson, ^
[18:06] <sil2100> Ok, I see armhf still building
[18:07] <sil2100> Might take another 2-3 hours
[18:07] <sil2100> heh...
[18:07] <sil2100> jibel: anyway, good work! I guess we should be indeed good once this one lands :)
[18:11] <jibel> started 3h ago + 2h to build an image, it'll be 1:00AM my time
[18:20] <popey> uh.
[18:21] <popey> cihelp: can someone validate something in jenkins please? I uploaded calculator reboot to the store, and have a horrid feeling it will break the automated testing dashboard because it's not /trunk.
[18:22] <cyphermox> psivaa-afk: josepht: ubiquity itself has no splines that require reticulation, that must be something introduced by utah.
[18:22] <jgdx> robru, done! (silo 6 is building)
[18:23] <robru> cyphermox: stop playing SimCity2000
[18:23] <robru> jgdx: thanks
[18:23] <cyphermox> robru: tell that to whomever bzr blames for that template.
[18:23] <cyphermox> :)
[18:24] <robru> cyphermox: lol
[18:24] <cyphermox> it's the message it shows for success_command; so I'm guessing some late installation scripts for utah are borked.
[18:41] <josepht> popey: it will pull the tests in the click manifest
[18:42] <Mirv> robru: hey. yes we don't need to test 018 more at the moment so feel free to clean it. the unity8 hang one. also, I could fix the version bloat in another silo.
[18:43] <Mirv> also, good night.
[18:43] <robru> Mirv: night, thanks
[18:59] <cwayne> davmor2, yo
[18:59] * davmor2 logs off quickly in the hope that nobody thinks he is about still
[19:00] <davmor2> cwayne: what's up bud
[19:01] <cwayne> davmor2, just curious if there was an update on what's goin on with oxide and the ota3 image
[19:02] <davmor2> cwayne: still building as far as I know. I think it will be monday now
[19:05] <cwayne> davmor2, ack. i'm gonna prepare a custom tar with the caught up clicks from the store just in case you guys want it
[19:05] <cwayne> sound alright?
[19:06] <davmor2> cwayne: cool
[19:08] <cwayne> davmor2, cool beans, I'll send ya out an email when it's ready
[19:08] <cwayne> i'll be off monday but lets be honest I'll be around to push if decided :)
[19:09] <davmor2> cwayne: you are always around ;) Always!!!!! :D
[19:10] <cwayne> :P
[19:12] <davmor2> cwayne: is it a case of pinging on telegram monday?
[19:13] <cwayne> davmor2, probably yeah
[19:31] <chrisccoulson> sil2100, sorry, I went for dinner
[19:31] <chrisccoulson> were any other issues found with the initial build?
[20:07] <ralsina> robru: looks like row 50 in the spreadsheet is very optimistic: it said "can publish" when I went to mark it as tested :-)
[20:11] <robru> ralsina: yeah so for some reason it's not marked as requiring qa
[20:15] <ralsina> robru: np, I'll just leave it there for QA to pickup, have a nice weekend!
[21:15] <pmcgowan> sil2100, chrisccoulson oxide is done
[21:42] <robru> cihelp http://d-jenkins.ubuntu-ci:8080/view/Vivid/view/BootTest/job/vivid-boottest-messaging-app/6/ this looks transient, can somebody retry it for me? I don't have permission, thanks
[21:45] <fginther> popey, I took a closer look at the calculator/reboot problem you mentioned. If you can upload a new click from http://s-jenkins.ubuntu-ci:8080/job/calculator-app-reboot-click/109/, I think it should just work
[21:46] <fginther> popey, the branch name wasn't getting set via the cmake variables, it is now.
[21:46] <popey> fginther: r156?
[21:47] <josepht> robru: done
[21:47] <robru> josepht: thanks!
[21:47] <josepht> robru: np
[21:47] <fginther> popey, yes, com.ubuntu.calculator_2.0.156_all.click built by build #109 has the proper branch name
[21:47] <popey> ok
[21:47] <fginther> popey, that was the latest revno
[21:48] <pmcgowan> robru, do you know if sil2100 was going to grab that new oxide and kick a build?
[21:49] <robru> josepht: hmmm, looks like it got the same failure again, thoughts?
[21:49] <robru> pmcgowan: not sure, he didn't say. it's quite late for him now...
[21:49] <pmcgowan> robru, ok
[21:49] <fginther> popey, but I see that lp:ubuntu-calculator-app is also aliased to the reboot branch now. That should also work
[21:49] <robru> pmcgowan: seems like a logical course of action though... want me to do it?
[21:50] <popey> fginther: so, leave it and don't upload, or upload? :)
[21:50] <fginther> popey, one second. Let me triple check :-)
[21:50] <popey> :)
[21:51] <pmcgowan> robru, yeah, you know where the oxide is
[21:51] <pmcgowan> ?
[21:52] <robru> pmcgowan: heh, no.
[21:52] <robru> chrisccoulson: what ppa was oxide building in?
[21:52] <pmcgowan> https://launchpad.net/~phablet-team/+archive/ubuntu/ppa
[21:52] <robru> oh
[21:52] <robru> chrisccoulson: nm
[21:52] <robru> pmcgowan: thanks
[21:52] <pmcgowan> ty
[21:53] <robru> pmcgowan: and you want that published to rtm?
[21:53] <pmcgowan> robru, yes, it has one regression fix
[21:53] <chrisccoulson> remember it needs to be binary copied - if it's rebuilt against rtm then it won't work
[21:53] <robru> pmcgowan: on it
[21:53] <pmcgowan> aha he is here
[21:53] <robru> chrisccoulson: sure thing
[21:53] <chrisccoulson> thanks
[21:53] <pmcgowan> cool
[21:54] <pmcgowan> thanks chrisccoulson
[21:55] <fginther> popey, the old branch is gone. Do we still need to run tests against the 'old' version of the calculator?
[22:00] <fginther> popey, there doesn't appear to be an immediate advantage to doing a new upload, the lp:ubuntu-calculator-app/reboot and lp:ubuntu-calculator-app branches both point to the same thing. But if it becomes a problem, we should be in a better place to deal with it in the future
[22:00] <popey> ok
[22:00] <popey> I'd rather not upload anyway, 11pm on a friday night :)
[22:01] <popey> thanks for looking
[22:01] <fginther> popey, np, have a good night
[22:08] <robru> pmcgowan: wait, I'm confused. does the silo need QA or should I just publish it so they can qa the resulting image?
[22:14] <ev> cyphermox: did you test your ubiquity upload (https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/vivid-changes/2015-April/007789.html) with an installation?
[22:15] <ev> I am just guessing, but given that it's not rebooting after the install in CI or when run locally, it seems the likely cause
[22:15] <ev> josepht: ^ hi
[22:31] <cyphermox> ev, I did
[22:32] <ev> weird
[22:32] <cyphermox> However, makes sense that would be the Casper issue still
[22:32] <ev> maybe it's transient?
[22:32] <ev> which casper issue is this?
[22:33] <ev> and I had gotten so far without hearing about our friendly ghost of an initramfs
[22:33] <cyphermox> In a vm it looks like it's stuck in graphical mode, but it's really the Casper eject and reboot script that gets started
[22:34] <cyphermox> But sadly on shutdown with systemd Plymouth won't get user input to finish rebooting and it freezes graphical in VMs. I'm still working on a fix that helps with the VMs at least
[22:34] <josepht> cyphermox: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/casper/+bug/966480 this one?
[22:34] <cyphermox> Not quite, but similar
[22:34] <cyphermox> That said...
[22:35] <cyphermox> You should still get ubiquity disappearing from the screen I'd expect
[22:36] <cyphermox> I will need help figuring out how to convince plymouth to catch input despite systemd
[22:36] <robru> chrisccoulson: https://ci-train.ubuntu.com/job/ubuntu-rtm-landing-000-1-build/lastSuccessfulBuild/artifact/oxide-qt_packaging_changes.diff/*view*/ this looks weird. what happened to the changelog there?
[22:36] <josepht> cyphermox: mine got to the point where there's nothing on the screen but the aubergine fade background
[22:36] <cyphermox> Right, that's what I'd expect to ser
[22:36] <cyphermox> see
[22:37] <chrisccoulson> robru, did you copy vivid instead of utopic?
[22:37] <robru> chrisccoulson: sure did!
[22:37] <cyphermox> That's plymouth not quite playing nice with systemd on shutdown
[22:37] <chrisccoulson> that's why :)
[22:37] <robru> chrisccoulson: thanks, will grab the right one then ;-)
[22:44] <josepht> cyphermox: is there anything else you need from me?
[22:46] <robru> josepht: can you check http://d-jenkins.ubuntu-ci:8080/view/Vivid/view/BootTest/job/vivid-boottest-messaging-app/ again? seems same failure again, not sure if it's transient or not anymore...
[22:49] <josepht> robru: looking
[22:49] <ev> robru: what is leading you to believe that it was transient in the first place?
[22:52] <robru> ev: because I don't see how a change in messaging-app could result in "failed to provision device", it sounds like a hardware issue, not a failure of the app. was just hoping it was transient rather than some sort of catastrophic hw failure.
[22:54] * ev nods
[22:55] <ev> hm, they are both happening on krillin 10, and the last success was on 09
[22:57] <josepht> ev: yeah I just saw that, is 10 one of the instrumented ones?
[22:58] <ev> josepht: trying something quickly
[22:59] <ev> shoved it on krillin 08: http://d-jenkins.ubuntu-ci:8080/view/Vivid/view/BootTest/job/vivid-boottest-messaging-app/8/console
[23:00] <sil2100> robru: hey
[23:00] <sil2100> robru: you published the oxide to rtm? :)
[23:00] <ev> I've reconfigured the job to use boottest&&krillin again
[23:03] <sil2100> robru: I think we want to publish oxide as it is without QA sign-off, kick a new image and hand it to QA
[23:03] <sil2100> robru: has it been binary copied to 002?
[23:04] <sil2100> Ok, I see it has
[23:07] <sil2100> robru: ok, I'll publish oxide now, wait for it to migrate, and kick a new image
[23:09] <ev> robru, josepht: that appears to have been the problem. I'm taking krillin 10 out of the mix.
[23:10] <josepht> ev: thanks, is that an instrumented device?
[23:10] <ev> no idea
[23:10] <ev> I can't remember how I found the list the last time
[23:10] <ev> I think it lives in some python script on heymann, annoyingly enough
[23:11] <ev> plars?
[23:12] <josepht> the playbook still refers to ashes
[23:18] <josepht> ev: I'm in heymann
[23:21] <josepht> ev: 10 is in recovery
[23:21] <ev> Stuck?
[23:22] <josepht> idk, adb devices lists it as 'recovery' I can get into it via 'adb shell'
[23:24] <sil2100> Ok, oxide-qt migrated
[23:24] <sil2100> Kicking a new image
[23:26] <josepht> ev: nothing jumps out at me, any ideas or should I 'adb reboot' it?
[23:27] <sil2100> ToyKeeper: new image with the new oxide building as we speak
[23:27] * sil2100 goes off
[23:27] <sil2100> o/
[23:31] <josepht> ev: it is instrumented according to device_info.py on heymann
[23:32] <ev> Hmm
[23:34] <ev> I think we should leave it disabled for investigation on Monday. Can you send a mail to the team?
[23:34] <ev> Not sure what else to try
[23:35] <imgbot> [23:35] <ev> But I don't want to ask IS to reset it just yet
[23:35] <ev> Not until we know more
[23:39] <josepht> ev: sure, we can reset it ourselves
[23:45] <josepht> ev: email sent. I'm out before anyone else pings me. See you in Austin.
[23:52] <robru> josepht: ah, I see silo 9 migrated now, thanks for clearing up that boottest failure
[23:52] <robru> ev: thanks also ^
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[05:28] <napsy> jutro
[05:54] <idioterna> o
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[11:02] <yang> moram pogledat na net kako zgleda, ce je isti on
[11:03] <idioterna> plesast je
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[11:03] <zdobersek> wat en relieef!
[11:04] <zdobersek> jst se ucim na sporzi
[11:09] <idioterna> aha kul
[11:10] <yang> zdobersek: duolingo poznas ?
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[11:31] <zdobersek> Zaminzi
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[11:31] <zdobersek> iiii
[11:43] <sasa84_> CrazyLemon: a v vaši videoteki je že kingsman:the secret service?
[12:06] <CrazyLemon> sasa84_ nope
[12:06] <sasa84_> v naši tud ne :\
[12:07] <sasa84_> oziroma krožjo okol neke 5x presnete vhs kasete...kar ni kul! :P
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[12:15] <Seniorita> [Web Upd8] Andrew: BQ Ubuntu Phone Now Available For General Purchase http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/webupd8/~3/0GdH-GGln1k/bq-ubuntu-phone-now-available-for.html
[12:18] <zdobersek> wait for it
[12:33] <yang> http://blogs.cisco.com/security/talos/sshpsychos
[12:33] <Seniorita> Threat Spotlight: SSHPsychos
[12:35] <yang> >> this talos thing is some terrorist group that is paid by cisco and they somehow have access to the global internet and can block people by leveraging their relationship with a big telco, level3
[12:36] <yang> >> i posted a comment on that blog and it got deleted within a minute. that's why there aren't any comments at the bottom
[12:55] * sasa84_ zadiši po kofetu
[12:55] <sasa84_> zdobersek: ^
[12:55] <CrazyLemon> & smrdi po čiku :p
[12:56] <sasa84_> pfffff CrazyLemon SillyLemon
[12:56] <CrazyLemon> sasa84_ torej ne kadiš več? :>
[12:56] <sasa84_> nehala!
[12:56] <CrazyLemon> za danes?
[12:56] <CrazyLemon> :D
[12:56] <sasa84_> 14ga bo 1 mesc
[12:57] <CrazyLemon> ta nov dec pa te je čist spremenil ejga!
[12:57] <sasa84_> aj nou :$
[12:57] <CrazyLemon> fight back..ne mu tega dovolit!
[12:57] <CrazyLemon> be yourself!
[12:57] <CrazyLemon> ツ
[12:57] <sasa84_> je reku d lohk kadim sam eno stvar...in sem se odločila :P
[12:57] <sasa84_> za cigarete :P
[13:02] <yang> sasa84_: nehat kadit je ful enostavno, jst poznam enga k je ze 9x nehu !
[13:06] <Matthai> sasa84_, a ti teologijo študiraš?
[13:06] <sasa84_> Matthai: tako tako
[13:06] <sasa84_> sem jo že in jo še :P
[13:06] <Matthai> a poznaš eno Tjašo Šuštar?
[13:06] <sasa84_> Matthai: a si mejbi moj študent? morš kakšno vajo oddat? :P
[13:07] <Matthai> ne, sem pa 10 let predaval na FDV... tako da bi bila lahko tudi ti moja študentka
[13:07] <Matthai> :-)
[13:07] <sasa84_> uf! :D
[13:08] <sasa84_> Matthai: sem jo poguglala... poznam na videz
[13:08] <sasa84_> se mi zdi, da je bla par let za mano
[13:08] <Matthai> mah ne.. sem že pospravil vse stare grehe
[13:08] <Matthai> edino Daedalus iz slo-tech kanala je hotel pri meni diplomo delat
[13:08] <Matthai> pa sem pred zamenjal službo, kot je on tiste tri zadnje izpite naredu :-)
[13:09] <sasa84_> jaz sem itak as. :D
[13:09] <sasa84_> še ne morjo delat diplom pr men :P
[13:19] <upd> bleh 1h brez štroma sosed gnojnico ravno v kable za štrom usmeru
[13:19] <yang> shitty internet connection
[13:21] <yang> nisem fous tistim ko bodo prsli kable popravlat
[13:22] <zdobersek> who you kiddin'
[13:23] <yang> to me spomni na un vic, ko pride mulc na podezelje pa vid enga k ma polno sajtrgo gnoja pa ga vprasa kam gre ? pa un odvrne "To bo za na jagode" pa mulc prav "Mi jih mamo pa rajsi s smetano"
[13:24] <zdobersek> ha
[13:34] <idioterna> sej ce smetano polet po polju raztrosis po par dnevih isto zaudarja
[13:35] <dz0ny> https://gitub.com/greatfire
[13:36] <zdobersek> pa iste kemikalije so notr
[13:36] <zdobersek> sizcher
[13:36] <zdobersek> FINALLY
[13:36] <zdobersek> greatfire no load-o
[13:36] <zdobersek> .stran https://github.com/greatfire
[13:36] <jabuk> https://github.com/greatfire ni dosegljiva
[13:37] <zdobersek> .stran https://github.com/
[13:37] <jabuk> https://github.com/ ni dosegljiva
[13:37] <Seniorita> GitHub · Build software better, together.
[13:37] <Seniorita> »GitHub is the best place to build software together. Over 4 million people use GitHub to share code.«
[13:38] <dz0ny> mhm The Amazon CloudFront distribution is configured to block access from your country.
[13:42] <sasa84_> nč miške...zdej grem pa jst mal delat
[13:42] <sasa84_> drva sekat :P
[13:42] <sasa84_> čafči :D
[13:42] <zdobersek> sasa84_: UPLOAD TO STRAVA
[13:43] <CrazyLemon> or dont
[13:43] <sasa84_> as cyling? :P
[13:43] <zdobersek> dz0ny: SLOVENIA REPRESENT
[13:43] <jabuk> when I think I have a great idea http://i.imgur.com/Z9azme8.gif
[13:44] <idioterna> sasa84_: jsm svoj predavanje kot "yoga" dal
[13:44] <idioterna> ker se ni dal kot "standup comedy"
[13:44] <sasa84_> :D
[13:44] <idioterna> https://app.strava.com/activities/278912943
[13:44] <Seniorita> Activity Profile | Devops Days Ljubljana near | Times and Records | Strava
[13:45] <sasa84_> lol
[13:45] <CrazyLemon> tile stravarji.. še ko grejo kakat uploadajo 'workout' na stravo
[13:46] <zdobersek> 88bpm!
[13:46] <zdobersek> someone was excited!
[13:47] <sasa84_> :P
[13:47] <sasa84_> nč miške...
[13:47] <sasa84_> šibam ;)
[13:47] <zdobersek> CIAO MISKA
[13:47] * sasa84_ pomaha
[13:47] <yang> idioterna: ne vidim povezave med yoga in standup comedy
[13:48] <CrazyLemon> to zato ker nisi bil na devops ...
[13:48] <zdobersek> such a Buddha thing to say
[17:49] <zdobersek> tuctuctuctuctuctuctuctuc
[17:54] <Seniorita> [OMG! Ubuntu!] Joey-Elijah Sneddon: Ubuntu MATE Inks First Hardware Deal http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/d0od/~3/6O8st2Y-cuQ/ubuntu-mate-inks-first-hardware-deal
[17:59] <CrazyLemon> http://arstechnica.com/security/2015/04/hacked-french-network-exposed-its-own-passwords-during-tv-interview/
[17:59] <Seniorita> Hacked French network exposed its own passwords during TV interview | Ars Technica
[17:59] <Seniorita> »Post-it note on wall revealed network's passwords for YouTube, Instagram.«
[18:30] <CrazyLemon> 4. Water resistant shower proof design - is not afraid of rain flooding
[18:30] <CrazyLemon> good to know that design is not afraid
[18:34] <zdobersek> IS NOT AFRAID
[18:34] <zdobersek> TO TAKE A STAND
[18:34] <zdobersek> EVERYBODY
[18:34] <zdobersek> COME TAKE THE SHOWER-HAND
[18:59] <anny_> čer
[19:00] <idioterna> o
[19:00] <anny_> kako sprostim prostor v mapi /boot?
[19:01] <idioterna> uh
[19:01] <idioterna> tricky
[19:01] <idioterna> na roke moras removat kernele
[19:01] <idioterna> potem pa initrdje pobrises
[19:01] <anny_> đizs
[19:02] <anny_> v posodobitvah je map več, kot je prostora
[19:02] <idioterna> ne se tega sama lotevat
[19:02] <idioterna> ja, vem
[19:02] <idioterna> mislim, ne bos mogla bootat
[19:02] <idioterna> ce narobe nardis
[19:02] <anny_> uf uf
[19:03] <anny_> čudno to
[19:03] <anny_> na sistemski particiji je več kot dovolj prostora
[19:03] <idioterna> ja, sam /boot je posebna
[19:03] <anny_> kul
[19:03] <anny_> zmeraj se naučim kaj novega :)
[19:04] <idioterna> ja /boot mora videti bios ko boota
[19:05] <idioterna> ma to je zarad starinske arhitekture
[19:05] <idioterna> ce te zanimajo podrobnosti pocakaj
[19:05] <idioterna> zdaj moram s psom ven :)
[19:05] <idioterna> bbl
[19:09] <CrazyLemon> no ti ni noben bav bav tko kot idioterna to prikaže ツ
[19:09] <CrazyLemon> on bi te sam rad videl
[19:09] <CrazyLemon> ne mu zamerit
[19:11] <yang> anny_: dpkg -l |grep linux-image
[19:11] <yang> anny_: uname -a
[19:11] <CrazyLemon> tega se je pa za bat :p
[19:12] <yang> > pastebin
[19:12] <zdobersek> oooh
[19:12] <zdobersek> wat en emoji
[19:13] <CrazyLemon> you like it dont you
[19:13] <CrazyLemon> here.. just for you ツ
[19:13] <yang> stare kernele ce so se ti nabrali lahko brez problema removas, potrebujes samo obstojeci kernel ki se zboota, in novega oz. starega
[19:13] <anny_> http://www.anony.ws/image/DUx4
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[19:14] <yang> anny_: aja se "df -h"
[19:14] <yang> ja ne removat na roke
[19:14] <yang> ker je komanda za to
[19:15] <yang> mislim z apt-get jih pravilno pobrises in sprostis disk
[19:15] <anny_> http://pastebin.com/bhVZPQgp
[19:15] <Seniorita> anny@workstation:~$ dpkg -l |grep linux-image rc linux-image-3.13.0-24-generic - Pastebin.com
[19:15] <yang> ja
[19:16] <yang> nujno jih moras neka jpobrisati, ker drugace pri updejtu ne bo prostora za nove
[19:16] <yang> bom ti napisal kere
[19:16] <yang> predlagam tudi da komando izvedes raje z "aptitude" kot z "apt-get"
[19:17] <yang> torej
[19:18] <yang> aptitude remove linux-image-extra-3.13.0-45-generic linux-image-extra-3.13.0-43-generic <- vpisi se ostale starejse tukaj pustis samo zadnje dva linux-image-extra-3.13.0-46-generic in linux-image-extra-3.13.0-48-generic
[19:18] * CrazyLemon gets popcorn
[19:18] <yang> aja cak
[19:18] <yang> image-extra so to
[19:18] <yang> aptitude remove linux-image-3.13.0-45-generic
[19:18] <yang> cak
[19:19] <anny_> Krejzi <3
[19:19] <yang> aptitude remove linux-image-3.13.0-45-generic linux-image-3.13.0-43-generic linux-image-3.13.0-40-generic linux-image-3.13.0-39-generic linux-image-3.13.0-24-generic
[19:19] <CrazyLemon> ančka :*
[19:19] <yang> pa pastebinaj predno potrdis
[19:19] <yang> pastebinaj kar ti izpise
[19:20] <yang> aja
[19:20] <yang> sudo mors dat spredi
[19:20] <yang> oz kot root
[19:20] <yang> moras komando izvest
[19:22] <anny_> yang, si ziher?
[19:22] <yang> ja
[19:22] <yang> sudo aptitude remove linux-image-3.13.0-45-generic linux-image-3.13.0-43-generic linux-image-3.13.0-40-generic linux-image-3.13.0-39-generic linux-image-3.13.0-24-generic
[19:23] <yang> samo pastebinaj predno napises "y"
[19:23] <anny_> prej bi moral reči
[19:24] <yang> to so stari kerneli, nimajo veze s tvojim obstojecim
[19:24] <yang> torej kaj je za pastebin ? kako se je komanda izvedla ?
[19:25] <anny_> izbrisala sem samo prvega
[19:25] <anny_> 178 Mb prostora
[19:25] <yang> no pa daj se preostale, vendar NE pobrisat linux-image-3.13.0-46-generic in linux-image-3.13.0-48-generic
[19:26] <yang> ta dva rabis
[19:26] <anny_> aptitude ne deluje fyi
[19:27] <anny_> in potreben je root
[19:27] <yang> no potem pa daj namesto aptitutude , uporabi apt-get
[19:27] <yang> aptitude verjetno ni namescen
[19:27] <anny_> ne, ni
[19:27] <yang> sudo oz root
[19:27] <yang> kot user ne mores brisat paketov
[19:27] <yang> torej
[19:28] <yang> sudo apt-get remove linux-image-3.13.0-45-generic linux-image-3.13.0-43-generic linux-image-3.13.0-40-generic linux-image-3.13.0-39-generic linux-image-3.13.0-24-generic
[19:28] <yang> potem pa vpisi v sudo svoje geslo
[19:28] <yang> pa pastebinaj
[19:28] <yang> predno karkoli drugega vpises
[19:29] <anny_> vsako komando moram vpisat posebej, ker copy paste ne dela
[19:29] <yang> aja
[19:29] <yang> no potem prepisi
[19:30] <CrazyLemon> anny_ shift + insert ツ
[19:30] <anny_> ne deluje
[19:30] <CrazyLemon> oziroma ctrl shift v
[19:31] <yang> kaksen irc client pa mas to ?
[19:32] <anny_> don't ask me
[19:32] <anny_> XChat
[19:32] <yang> probaj KVIRC
[19:32] <yang> za graficnega
[19:32] <CrazyLemon> http://bikeboard.cc/Board/A-Tour-of-ROSE-th210027
[19:32] <Seniorita> A Tour of ROSE
[19:32] <Seniorita> »The German bike giant relies not only on state-of-the-art dispatch logistics, but also on the following three pillars: Individuality, Price/Performance and Customer Service. Here's a look behind the scenes of the family business and ROSE Biketown Bocholt.«
[19:32] <CrazyLemon> zdobersek ^
[19:33] <upd> anny_, v xchat označiš besedilo potem pa klikneš zravn na prazno polje, pa ti kopira
[19:33] <zdobersek> CrazyLemon: http://www.procyclingstats.com/race/Tour_of_Croatia_2015
[19:33] <Seniorita> Tour of Croatia 2015 - General Classification
[19:33] <zdobersek> Lago Plitvice
[19:34] <anny_> zadnjega ni našel
[19:34] <yang> ok anny_ zdaj pa se ostalo...
[19:34] <CrazyLemon> zdobersek fajn.. mogoče bi pa lahko šel s kolesom do umaga
[19:35] <anny_> ok, restart?
[19:35] <yang> sudo apt-get remove linux-image-extra-3.13.0-39-generic linux-image-extra-3.13.0-40-generic linux-image-extra-3.13.0-43-generic linux-image-extra-3.13.0-45-generic
[19:35] <yang> ne se
[19:35] <CrazyLemon> anny_ čemu restart?
[19:35] <yang> to napisi se potem pa
[19:35] <CrazyLemon> why?
[19:35] <yang> se enkrat "dpkg -l" in "df -h"
[19:35] <yang> restartat ne rabis
[19:35] <anny_> noben c/p ne deluje
[19:36] <yang> napisi "sudo apt-get remove linux-image-extra-3.13.0-39-generic"
[19:36] <yang> pa potem vsakega posebej
[19:36] <anny_> yang, the ni
[19:36] <anny_> uf
[19:38] <yang> a si probala pri kopiranju, da z misko oznacis tekst, pritisnes desni knof na miski in izberes "copy" ?
[19:38] <yang> morda ima tako opcijo morda nima
[19:39] <yang> drugace lahko probas "aptitude install kvirc" in se morda raje navadis na ta klient...
[19:39] <yang> oz. apt-get namesto aptitude (jaz vse delam z aptitude)
[19:40] <anny_> yang, vsega tega ni gor
[19:41] <yang> no ce si odstranila se preostale linux-image-extra, napisi se enkrat "dpkg -l"
[19:41] <yang> da ne bi slucajno kakega prevec odstranila predno rebootas
[19:41] <yang> pa pastebinaj
[19:42] <anny_> bolje prtscr
[19:42] <yang> ok
[19:42] <yang> kot zelis
[19:42] <yang> ne
[19:43] <yang> dpkg -l |grep linux-image
[19:43] <yang> to napis
[19:43] <CrazyLemon> oh snap..last minute change :D
[19:43] <anny_> http://www.anony.ws/image/DUxF
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[19:43] <yang> tale terrence parker mix me je cist dekoncentriral :)
[19:44] <yang> anny_:
[19:44] <yang> dpkg -l |grep linux-image
[19:45] <anny_> http://pastebin.com/DpHweFFR
[19:45] <Seniorita> root@workstation:/home# dpkg -l |grep linux-image rc linux-image-3.13.0-24-gen - Pastebin.com
[19:46] <yang> ja ok
[19:46] <yang> varna si pred rebootom, kolko placa ti je sprostilo ?
[19:47] <anny_> na /boot je 165 Mb placa
[19:47] <yang> aha
[19:47] <yang> prej pa ga je bilo
[19:47] <yang> 45MB
[19:48] <anny_> v popravku so fajli veliki 75MB
[19:48] <yang> po namizni sliki je tisto kar ima za bit v /boot , ne brisi nicesar vec
[19:49] <anny_> ne bom :)
[19:49] <yang> a ti je napisalo kaj v stilu "generating initrd image..."
[19:49] <CrazyLemon> no..bo mogla ker je še vedno malo placa na disku ツ
[19:49] <anny_> ne spomnim se
[19:49] <anny_> mislim, da ja
[19:49] <yang> pomoje je varno da probas reboot, ce zelis , CrazyLemon ?
[19:50] <CrazyLemon> yang ?
[19:50] <yang> mas kaksen komentar se
[19:50] <CrazyLemon> veliko jih imam
[19:50] <yang> hehe
[19:50] <CrazyLemon> ampak dejmo začet z najbl preprostim.. zakaj reboot?
[19:50] <anny_> da vidim, če deluje
[19:50] <yang> no reboot t ini nujen
[19:50] <yang> ni ti nujen ce ne deluje itak ne bos mogla nazaj prist
[19:51] <anny_> res je :)
[19:51] <yang> ceprav me cudi zakaj je toliko malo prostora samo sprostilo
[19:51] <anny_> imam dva compa, tako da bom šla na drugega
[19:51] <yang> lahko bi dala namesto remove tudi purge prej, ampak tisto brise se fajle drugod
[19:52] <anny_> dost je
[19:52] <yang> pa probaj reboot no
[19:52] <yang> :)
[19:52] <CrazyLemon> yang zato ker si odstranil samo image pustil pa headerse.. ti sicer ne vplivajo na /boot vplivajo pa na pomankanje placa na sda
[19:52] <CrazyLemon> ツ
[19:52] <CrazyLemon> pa tudi purge bi pomagal ja.. zato pa ima sedaj povsod 'rc' zastavice pri dpkg
[19:52] <yang> drzim pesti zate
[19:53] <anny_> *palmhead*
[19:54] <anny_> no pa dajmo
[19:54] <CrazyLemon> TIL apt-mark ..noice
[19:54] <yang> CrazyLemon: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H2K3jxoKB9k#t=22m42s
[19:54] <Seniorita> TERRENCE PARKER - PBX FUNICULAR VIRGIL [HQ] - YouTube
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[19:55] <yang> 30.04. v K4
[19:55] <yang> eden bolj versatile Deejayev
[19:57] <yang> welcome back
[19:57] <anny_> še kar brcam
[19:57] <idioterna> kul
[19:57] <idioterna> zivjo
[19:58] <anny_> paket posodobitev se je nekam zgubil...ni panike
[19:58] <idioterna> verjetno se je namestil
[19:58] <anny_> živ...pes zadovoljen?
[19:58] <idioterna> popolnoma
[19:59] <idioterna> pa se kolegu sm dnar posodu k ga davkarija jebe
[19:59] <CrazyLemon> .rt
[19:59] <jabuk> Trenutno se predvaja: The Woodlands - Hold You Tonight.
[19:59] <CrazyLemon> furs rox!
[19:59] * CrazyLemon likes FURS
[19:59] <CrazyLemon> nay..loves!
[19:59] <jabuk> when I am sure that my ninja commit will not cause regressions http://ljdchost.com/nhlWNjl.gif
[20:00] <anny_> idioterna, zaslužiš si nagrado
[20:00] <idioterna> za?
[20:02] <anny_> za...vse skupaj
[20:02] <anny_> ostali tudi
[20:03] <anny_> dajte mi 5 minut!
[20:03] <CrazyLemon> uu.. nude photo! nice!
[20:03] <yang> http://jp.si/terrence2/CameraZOOM-20101028113938.jpg
[20:03] * CrazyLemon bi bil happy tudi z milko oreo
[20:03] <idioterna> js nism za oreos
[20:03] <idioterna> anny_: all in a day's work for bicycle repairmen
[20:03] <idioterna> nc, grem brate streljat
[20:03] <idioterna> srecno
[20:04] <CrazyLemon> kaj so ti pa bratje naredili :/
[20:08] * yang accepts Bitcoins :
[20:08] <CrazyLemon> yang bitcoine dobiš samo če opraviš delo tko kot se spodobi.. in ne tko :p
[20:08] <anny_> http://www.docdroid.net/x1y1/eseji-programiranje.pdf.html
[20:08] <Seniorita> Eseji - programiranje.pdf - DocDroid
[20:08] <Seniorita> »Document Eseji - programiranje.pdf on DocDroid«
[20:09] <yang> sej je prisla nazaj torej delo opravljeno kot se spodobi :)
[20:09] <anny_> lol
[20:09] <CrazyLemon> meh..to pa ni milka oreo :(
[20:09] <anny_> idioterna
[20:09] <anny_> šel spat?
[20:10] <CrazyLemon> naah.. strelat se je šel
[20:10] <anny_> ne, to je solata z malo soli, čez katero sem se prebijala kakšen mesec :)
[20:10] <CrazyLemon> amm.. zakaj je naslov v slovenščini?
[20:10] <jabuk> WYSIWYG http://tclhost.com/BSoEHOJ.gif
[20:11] <anny_> skrajšana oblika....dejansko je imel vsak esej vsaj ene 10 podvprašanj
[20:12] <CrazyLemon> iPad*
[20:12] <anny_> dober servis ta docdroid
[20:12] <anny_> boljši kot oni joški
[20:13] <CrazyLemon> "I work at Google"
[20:13] <CrazyLemon> delaš pri guglu? ツ
[20:13] <anny_> to so eseji, ki so jih napisali sotrpini
[20:13] <anny_> mojih ni zraven
[20:14] <CrazyLemon> aja.. no kul ker je ogromno napak :D
[20:14] <CrazyLemon> pa tale pri guglu ki je.. kaj pa ta počne? :D
[20:14] <anny_> mislim, da je
[20:15] <anny_> ženska
[20:15] <yang> CrazyLemon: terrence mix ti ni vsec ?
[20:15] <CrazyLemon> yang ne
[20:15] <anny_> google nima zaposlenih samo programerjev
[20:15] <CrazyLemon> nisem niti kliknu sam meh.. ツ
[20:16] <anny_> Krejzi, ne bit fouš! ;)
[20:17] <CrazyLemon> anny_ seveda sm fouš! še angleščina ji ne gre najboljše pa dela pri guglu!
[20:17] <CrazyLemon> why not me?! why google why?!?!
[20:17] <CrazyLemon> :D
[20:17] <anny_> ej mucki
[20:17] <anny_> že pred mesecem sem rekla, da imajo (bodoči) programerji domišljijo kot zamašek
[20:17] <anny_> angleščina je pa amo tamo
[20:18] <anny_> čeprav...tale prvi spis pri sinugarnosti pa izstopa po eleganci
[20:19] <yang> http://www.immortal-models.com/public/models/85/.2225_700_450_0.jpg Claudia Schiffer look-a-like
[20:19] <anny_> omg...ne straši nas!
[20:19] <yang> sej je pozna ura,
[20:19] <anny_> srce mi bo ušlo
[20:21] <anny_> danes sem šla po knjigo Seks ob zori
[20:21] <anny_> priporočam v branje
[20:21] <yang> aja sem mislu da priporocam seks ob zori
[20:21] <yang> priporocas even
[20:22] <anny_> oboje priporočam
[20:24] <yang> Schiffer sometimes appeared on stage with Copperfield to act as his special guest assistant in a number of illusions including being levitated, guillotined and sawn in half.[23]
[20:24] <yang> prjazna zenska
[20:24] <anny_> saj je samo iluzija
[20:24] <yang> hecam se
[20:26] <anny_> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=70U2yybKhKg
[20:26] <Seniorita> The Greatest Illusion Of All Time - David Copperfield Flying - YouTube
[20:26] <Seniorita> »Live The Dream magic from David. Best magic trick ever! MUSIC - EAST OF EDEN - LEE HOLDRIDGE Twitter TOP 10 DISNEY SONGS EVER: https://www.youtube.com/watch?...«
[20:27] <yang> ja to sem gledal kako je letel cez grand canyon se kot mulc po TVju
[20:27] <yang> kr dobr je zgledal
[20:27] <anny_> he's damn good
[20:27] <yang> good looking fellow
[20:27] <anny_> ne, dober iluzionist
[20:28] <yang> ja
[20:28] <yang> enkratje bil na ljubljanskem gradu tudi
[20:28] <anny_> superman ma konkurenco!
[20:28] <yang> sicer so bile ful drage karte
[20:29] <anny_> nič ne vem o tem
[20:29] <yang> ja
[20:31] <yang> https://www.dnevnik.si/144983
[20:31] <yang> treba ogromno vaditi in imeti odlično tehnično usposobljeno ekipo. Njegova je med nastopom v Ljubljani štela sto asistentov. In kaj bi bil David, če ne bi bil čarovnik?
[20:32] <anny_> imeti 100 asistentov je tudi čarovnija
[20:32] <yang> ce bi sel kdaj v vegas
[20:32] <yang> bi si ogledal njegov sov
[20:33] <yang> v ljubljani ga zal nisem videl
[20:35] <yang> samo v vegasu nastopa
[20:35] <anny_> v vegasu bi bil DC zadnji, ki bi te zanimal :)
[20:35] <yang> ah ne, kaj pa mislis, da bi sel gamblati ?
[20:35] <anny_> o ja
[20:35] <yang> ni sans
[20:35] <anny_> ne bi se izognil
[20:35] <yang> sel bi si ogledati igralnico
[20:36] <yang> baje so prenocisca zelo poceni tam, ker toliko vec zapravis spodaj v igralnicah
[20:36] <anny_> na nek način ti morajo izpuliti denar iz žepa
[20:36] <yang> mas kar kaj za videt v vegasu, tom Jones, coperfield, vcasih sta bla se siegfried & roy, predno je enga od njiju zagrabil
[20:37] <anny_> celine dion
[20:37] <yang> pa porocis se lahko 24ur na dan
[20:37] <yang> elvis te poroci
[20:37] <yang> en kolega je bil pred leti
[20:37] <yang> je kazal malo slike
[20:38] <anny_> papirje moraš vse3no imeti?
[20:38] <yang> kle ko pise david copperfield tickets, a ves da ima cisto vsak dan show
[20:38] <anny_> dober je, da se ne naveliča
[20:38] <yang> po veckrat dnevno, mislim saj ni prakticno nic fraj
[20:38] <anny_> uf
[20:39] <anny_> https://www.mimovrste.com/gsm-telefoni/prestigio-gsm-telefon-multiphone-5504-duo-crn?v=692735
[20:39] <Seniorita> Prestigio GSM telefon MultiPhone 5504 DUO, črn | mimovrste=)
[20:39] <Seniorita> »Pametni telefon Prestigio MultiPhone 5504 DUO vam ponuja dolgo življenjsko dobo baterije, katere kapaciteta je kar 1950 mAh. Telefon uporablja štirijedrni procesor s taktom 1,3 GHz, 1 GB vgrajenega delavnega pomnilnika.«
[20:39] <anny_> ta fon bom kupila
[20:39] <yang> je kaj posebnega na njemu ?
[20:39] <anny_> dul sim
[20:40] <yang> to imam tudi jaz na fairphone
[20:40] <yang> pa ne koristim
[20:40] <yang> nisem niti sporbal se
[20:40] <anny_> rabim enega službenega
[20:40] <yang> ja
[20:40] <yang> potem je prakticno
[20:40] <anny_> ja
[20:41] <anny_> in ni preveč zmogljiv, zato ne bom visela cel dan gor :I
[20:41] <yang> mislim na fairphone je dual sim za standardno velikost sim kartic, jaz pa imam eno standardno eno pa nano al mikro
[20:41] <yang> pa tudi drag nikar je najpomembneje !
[20:42] <yang> vecina novih telefonov je okoli 600 eur
[20:42] <anny_> fairphone je zanimiva štorija
[20:42] <yang> teh samsung pa iphone
[20:42] <yang> ja fairphoneje ok, jaz imam prvega, zdaj so naredili ze drugega
[20:42] <yang> s tretjo verzijo pa upam da se bodo nagibali tudi k FSF
[20:43] <yang> to bi bil njihov cilj, ce se ze imajo za eticni telefon
[20:43] <anny_> trgovina jim ne dela
[20:43] <yang> mislim da so vsi posli...
[20:43] <yang> ker so samo v prednarocilu
[20:43] <anny_> dobra fora
[20:43] <yang> prva serija jih je bilo 25000 samo izdelanih
[20:44] <yang> neke vrste kickstarter campaign so
[20:44] <yang> jaz sem svojega vplacal se predno so jih naredili sem moral kake pol leta se cakat zatem
[20:44] <yang> sem vmes ze drugega kupil
[20:44] <anny_> res je kul
[20:44] <yang> saj ni bogve kaj mislim tko po specifikacijah
[20:44] <anny_> kdaj bo naslednji, če mi ta crkne?
[20:45] <yang> amapk fora je ta, da so pac vsi vkljuceni v projekt dobili posteno placilo
[20:45] <yang> vem toliko kot ti, ker ne spremljam njihovega projekta vec
[20:45] <yang> kot pise v njihovem blogu
[20:45] <anny_> ja, to je napredek
[20:45] <yang> sicer pa lahko narocis kakega iz ebaya
[20:45] <anny_> raje ne
[20:45] <anny_> nikoli ne veš, kaj dobiš
[20:46] <yang> no jaz imam z nemskim ebayom same v redu izkusnje
[20:46] <anny_> mimovrste lahko vsaj zgrabim za kravato
[20:46] <yang> ja to drzi
[20:46] <anny_> amazon tudi v redu firma
[20:46] <yang> aha
[20:46] <yang> vpisi se noter
[20:46] <yang> Next Fairphone now in development
[20:46] <yang> Join the 29,973 subscribers on our interest list!
[20:47] <anny_> haha
[20:47] <yang> hha
[20:47] <yang> a ves kaj sem jaz naredu
[20:47] <yang> pisal sem v tri muhe
[20:47] <anny_> ojej
[20:47] <yang> in jim ga zelel prodati
[20:47] <yang> po nabavni ceni
[20:47] <yang> pa so rekli da jih ne zanima
[20:48] <anny_> prodajajo druge stvari
[20:48] <yang> ja
[20:48] <yang> bolj umetniske izdelke in hrano
[20:48] <yang> nic visje vrednosti
[20:49] <yang> sej je fletna trgovinca
[20:50] <yang> anny_:
[20:50] <yang> se en projekt je zanimiv
[20:50] <yang> http://puri.sm
[20:50] <Seniorita> Purism | Beautiful Freedom
[20:50] <yang> tudi kickstarter
[20:51] <anny_> dobri so
[20:51] <yang> kInterest list for the next Fairphone
[20:51] <yang> Are you interested in learning more about our next Fairphone coming later this year?
[20:51] <yang> tam lahko izpolnis saj je neobvezujoce
[20:52] <anny_> čeprav so specifikacije že malo zadaj
[20:52] <anny_> ampak verjetno to ni v prvem planu
[20:52] <yang> tam ko kliknes na shop
[20:53] <yang> ko je slika telefona SOLD OUT
[20:53] <yang> kliknes in izpolnis polja
[20:53] <yang> a specifikacije za purism al za fairphone ?
[20:53] <anny_> oboje
[20:53] <yang> mislim da je pri fairphone bolj v vidiku eticni vidik kot pa novodobna tehnologija
[20:53] <yang> pri purism pa enako
[20:54] <yang> ce te kaj zanima lahko vprasas tudi na #purism
[20:54] <yang> malo je draga naprava edino
[20:54] <yang> ampak ker so kolicine majhne je temu drazja cena
[20:54] <anny_> saj pravim, da tehnologija ni v prvem planu
[20:54] <yang> ja
[20:55] <yang> v planu je to da blokirajo tisto kar je backdoorano
[20:55] <yang> oz zaobidejo resitev hardwersko
[20:55] <yang> v drugem planu pa so pisci softwera za tak hardware
[20:55] <yang> itak ni misljeno da jih bodo 100.000 naredili
[20:59] <yang> no skoda da fairphone gen 1 platforma ni primerna za razvoj replicanta na njemu
[20:59] <yang> replicant je prosta kopija android sistema
[21:03] <yang> lepo spletno stran imajo
[21:04] <anny_> vidim, da se jim kar dogaja
[21:05] <yang> te kickstarter platforme so super
[21:05] <yang> dejansko ce imas neko inovativno idejo lahko prides do zagonskih sredstev
[21:12] <anny_> vem
[21:12] <anny_> kolegica s faksa dela na tem
[21:13] <anny_> ni za tiste, ki ne verjamo 100 procentno in ki hočejo imeti še kaj od lajfa poleg svojega projekta
[21:19] <yang> ja, je le inovacija in zahteva predanost projektu
[21:20] <yang> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jG3sp6rDgn0
[21:20] <Seniorita> Masked Magician REVEALED - Compared to Copperfield Criss Angel, Dynamo - YouTube
[21:20] <Seniorita> »This video shows how natural tools can't reproduce demon magic. Watch this if you still don't believe demon magic: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mI7uHI1x09...«
[21:20] <yang> tole je tudi dobro
[21:27] <anny_> tole je tudi dobro :)
[21:27] <anny_> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OjQbSvBC1RU
[21:27] <Seniorita> How to put a baby to sleep in 40 seconds flat - YouTube
[21:27] <Seniorita> »Wonderful - how peaceful it must be to fall asleep this way!«
[21:29] <yang> žhehe
[21:29] <yang> v starih casih so dal pa dudo v snopc pa je blo !
[21:31] <anny_> ja, še danes je videti posledice
[21:31] <anny_> 15 odstotkov ljudi pijancev
[21:32] <yang> hehe
[21:38] <idioterna> hehe
[21:39] <idioterna> aha vidm da sm za citat dobil
[21:41] <idioterna> o kr dolg spis
[21:44] <yang> no lepo se mejte, grem jst mal zalegnt
[21:44] <idioterna> srecno
[21:48] <idioterna> anny_: joj tega je ful
[21:48] <idioterna> zdej sm tri prebral pa vidm da se nism na tretjini
[21:48] <anny_> tolk maš za prebrat kot jaz :)
[21:48] <anny_> ln
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2015-04-10-#ubuntu-cz
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[19:05] <Guest45133> bry vecer :D
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ubuntu-chat
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2015-04-10-#ubuntu-africa
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[06:00] <Kilos> oo yay
[06:01] <Kilos> morning africa
[06:01] <Kilos> :-)
[06:31] <Kilos> elacheche morning, do you have any contact with neo?
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ubuntu-chat
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2015-04-10-#ubuntu-vn
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[02:07] <quydo> ping all
[02:07] <quydo> có ai ở nhà ko
[02:09] <Stanley00> quydo: không... :P
[02:09] <quydo> :D
[02:09] <quydo> Stanley00: cho mình hỏi phát nha
[02:10] <quydo> mình có cái hàm xyz() {return 1 số int theo điều kienej nào đó}
[02:10] <n0bawk> !ask
[02:10] <quydo> a=xyz()
[02:10] <quydo> sao echo $a ko đúng với giá trị xyz return nhỉ
[02:10] <quydo> :(
[02:10] <n0bawk> cho xin 1 cái test case cụ thể di
[02:11] <n0bawk> sao biết là nó ko đúng :D
[02:11] <quydo> trong xyz tính ra đc 270
[02:11] <quydo> return 270
[02:11] <quydo> ah vừa đọc đc rồi
[02:11] <quydo> # The largest positive value a function can return is 255.
[02:12] <CoconutCrab> meow~
[02:12] <Stanley00> hmm...
[02:12] <quydo> chán vãi :(
[02:12] <Stanley00> vậy thôi echo... return làm gì :3
[02:13] <quydo> echo thì phải if else nhiều
[02:13] <quydo> nếu ko echo xong thì nó chạy tiếp code trong hàm
[02:13] <quydo> :D
[02:13] <quydo> có cách rồi
[02:13] <quydo> >250 thì cho nó 250
[02:13] <quydo> =))
[02:13] <Stanley00> quydo: vậy có nghĩa là cái hàm đó *bự quá* rồi :P
[02:14] <quydo> hàm hơi dài xíu, nên echo ko tiện lắm
[02:14] <n0bawk> quydo: chuyển nó về string rồi return string?
[02:16] <Stanley00> hmm... quydo có thể echo $result; return đó :P
[02:16] <Stanley00> mà nói chung là viết hàm mà dài quá thì không ổn rồi...
[02:17] <quydo> ok chắc có mấy cách đó :D
[02:17] <quydo> echo $x; return, thì ko dùng $? để get data
[02:17] <quydo> nhiều cách quá, chọn cách > 250 thì cho nó = 250
[02:17] <quydo> :D
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2015-04-10-#juju-dev
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[07:24] <mup> Bug #1442493 was opened: Openstack services failing on 1 node while deploying using JUJU <juju-core:New> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1442493>
[07:26] <dooferlad> TheMue: morning! o/
[07:27] <TheMue> dooferlad: morning o/
[07:27] <dooferlad> TheMue: Could you review this for me? http://reviews.vapour.ws/r/1406/
[07:28] <TheMue> dooferlad: so the sapphire group is complete for today ;)
[07:28] <dooferlad> TheMue: yep!
[07:28] <TheMue> dooferlad: yes, will do
[07:28] <dooferlad> TheMue: thanks
[07:38] <TheMue> dooferlad: uff, reading the bug is longer than the fix :)
[07:39] <dooferlad> TheMue: the effort of testing it on EC2 was larger than that by many times. MAAS just worked. Our lack of support for when there is no default VPC really screwed me over
[07:39] <TheMue> dooferlad: do you know why this SNAT rule has been in there? so doesn't its removal crash something?
[07:39] <dooferlad> TheMue: not that I have found.
[07:41] <TheMue> dooferlad: hmm, ok. here I definitely need some good networking lessons to get more safe in understanding it
[07:41] <dooferlad> TheMue: I am sure I can arrange that :-)
[07:42] <TheMue> dooferlad: would be great. in my past I mostly have done typical business software, absolutely different area ;)
[07:43] <TheMue> dooferlad: you've got you ship it
[07:43] <dooferlad> TheMue: thanks!
[07:44] <TheMue> yw
[08:13] * fwereade out for an hour or two
[09:00] <dooferlad> TheMue: hangout?
[09:01] <TheMue> dooferlad: coming, just had phone
[09:05] <rogpeppe1> this PR removes the testing deps from the production juju code: http://reviews.vapour.ws/r/1407/
[09:05] <rogpeppe1> reviews appreciated (it's pretty trivial)
[09:05] <TheMue> rogpeppe1: will do after hangout
[09:06] <rogpeppe1> TheMue: ta!
[09:30] <dooferlad> TheMue: http://reviews.vapour.ws/r/1408/ is very similar to the last change :-)
[09:30] <TheMue> *click*
[09:32] <TheMue> dooferlad: thinking you're right, so ship it. alternatively %T is also valid, but no combination
[09:33] <natefinch> dooferlad, TheMue: there's nothing wrong with %#T
[09:33] <natefinch> http://play.golang.org/p/8XAOJVdeO2
[09:34] <rogpeppe1> natefinch: why would you use %#T - it's identical to %T
[09:35] <natefinch> rogpeppe1: because I always forget it's the same
[09:35] <TheMue> natefinch: rogpeppe1: %#T is not documented, and %#v and %T behave different in showing also the values with %#v
[09:36] <mup> Bug #1442541 was opened: hook name ommitted using juju-log <juju-core:New> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1442541>
[09:36] <TheMue> hmm, does vet complain about it?
[09:37] <natefinch> TheMue: %T is the correct fix then. I just got done fixing that error message so it *didn't* use %v. It's doing type checking, so it should print out the type if it's incorrect, not the error's string, which doesn't tell you anything.
[09:37] <natefinch> dooferlad: ^
[09:38] <TheMue> natefinch: ic, so dooferlad, fix it, then ship it ;)
[09:38] <natefinch> dooferlad: and thanks for fixing my go vet mistake
[09:42] <dooferlad> natefinch: no problem - shame I didn't ask you what your intention was before the first review :-)
[09:45] <natefinch> dooferlad: np :)
[09:51] <TheMue> dooferlad: $$merge$$, not %%
[09:52] <dooferlad> TheMue: darn it!
[09:55] <TheMue> dooferlad: no wonder, after all this %... discussion
[10:07] <rogpeppe1> natefinch: looks like go vet doesn't like the %#T
[10:08] <rogpeppe1> mgz: ping
[10:15] <rogpeppe1> natefinch: i think in the place you've used it, %#v would be a better bet, as if the test fails you really want to see the actual value there not just the type
[10:15] <natefinch> rogpeppe1: very true
[10:16] <rogpeppe1> natefinch: the test isn't doing type checking, it's doing value checking, BTW
[10:16] <rogpeppe1> anyone have any idea how this build failure might be happening? http://juju-ci.vapour.ws:8080/job/github-merge-juju/2845/console
[10:17] <rogpeppe1> Extant directories unknown:
[10:17] <rogpeppe1> gopkg.in/juju/charm.v5
[10:17] <natefinch> rogpeppe1: regardless, printing out the string value of the error is quite a bit less than useful
[10:17] <rogpeppe1> i'm presuming that's the reason for the build failure, not the vet message: apiserver/server_test.go:88: unrecognized printf flag for verb 'T': '#'
[10:17] <rogpeppe1> natefinch: that's why i'd use %#v
[10:17] <natefinch> rogpeppe1: yep
[10:18] <rogpeppe1> natefinch: the string value is almost certainly going to be more useful than just the type though
[10:18] <rogpeppe1> natefinch: which will usually be just *errors.Err
[10:19] <natefinch> rogpeppe1: let's just agree that %#v is the correct fix :)
[10:19] <rogpeppe1> natefinch: :)
[10:19] <natefinch> dooferlad: is that code already committed?
[10:19] <dooferlad> natefinch: yes
[10:20] <dooferlad> natefinch: as %T
[10:20] <dooferlad> I did wonder about %T: %#v...
[10:21] <natefinch> dooferlad: %#v includes the type...%#v is basically %T with %v
[10:21] <natefinch> well.. no that;s a bad description
[10:23] <natefinch> dooferlad: %#v prints out the value as if it were go code to construct the value
[10:23] <natefinch> dooferlad: http://play.golang.org/p/6HKt-7atpL
[10:24] <natefinch> except of course, ignore the "type:" string on the beginning of each line, since that was just copied from the old text I had in there
[10:24] <natefinch> fixed example: http://play.golang.org/p/FtEYRp1dJS
[10:24] <natefinch> I need to stop trying to explain things before 7am
[10:25] <dooferlad> natefinch: no worries :-)
[10:25] <dooferlad> natefinch: actually the merge job failed, so I can easily switch back to %#v if you like
[10:26] <natefinch> dooferlad: yes please :)
[10:31] <natefinch> rogpeppe1: about that error in the console... note that error message is looking for gopkg.in/juju/charm.v5, not gopkg.in/juju/charm.v5-unstable
[10:31] <rogpeppe1> natefinch: yes, i think i know what's going on now
[10:32] <rogpeppe1> natefinch: i've updated that branch to change everything to use charm.v5
[10:32] <rogpeppe1> natefinch: which should fix the issue (although it makes that branch quite a bit bulkier)
[10:32] <rogpeppe1> natefinch: i've also changed it to fix your %#T thing
[10:33] <natefinch> rogpeppe1: I think dooferlad is making the %#v fix, though I suppose it can't hurt
[10:33] <mgz> rogpeppe1: hey
[10:33] <rogpeppe1> mgz: hiya
[10:33] <rogpeppe1> mgz: too late! :)
[10:33] <mgz> you're just loving breaking deps at the moment
[10:34] <rogpeppe1> mgz: it's one of my favourite activities
[10:34] <mgz> well, at least this one was an actual catch by the bot
[10:34] <rogpeppe1> mgz: not really
[10:34] <rogpeppe1> mgz: it's actually a bug in godeps
[10:35] <rogpeppe1> mgz: because godeps uses go get to fetch new deps
[10:35] <rogpeppe1> mgz: and there's no way to tell go get not to fetch recursively
[10:35] <mgz> yeah, which just pulls in everything
[10:35] <rogpeppe1> mgz: so really i think godeps needs to fork the go get vcs fetch functionality
[10:35] <mgz> so, tells you to fix the imports, no?
[10:35] <rogpeppe1> mgz: no, the imports are right
[10:36] <mgz> rogpeppe1: I agree with that though, we need to not go get really
[10:36] <rogpeppe1> mgz: the problem is that the tip of the repo has a different set of deps from the dep we wanted to use
[10:36] <mgz> rogpeppe1: ah, that one again
[10:36] <mgz> er... i can sort that for now I guess
[10:37] <rogpeppe1> mgz: i'm fixing it my updating to use the latest deps
[10:37] <mgz> I have a flip that just removes unkniwn deps rather than complaining, and assumes that if things build the godep stated deps were in fact the intended ones
[10:37] <rogpeppe1> mgz: the branch was all about updating deps anyway
[10:37] <mgz> fair enough
[10:37] <rogpeppe1> mgz: so here's the branch, updated (and now huge 'cos of all the import path changes): http://reviews.vapour.ws/r/1407
[10:39] <rogpeppe1> mgz: if i want to change the description of a PR, should I do it in reviews.vapour or in github ?
[10:39] <mgz> rogpeppe1: well, reviews is the one people read
[10:39] <rogpeppe1> mgz: i care mostly about the commit log message
[10:40] <mgz> I guess change on github then
[10:41] * rogpeppe1 $$merge$$s
[12:00] <rogpeppe> mgz: https://go-review.googlesource.com/#/c/8725/
[12:00] <rogpeppe> mgz: it won't fix it for now but sometime in the future, i hope
[12:00] <rogpeppe> mgz: (assuming it's accepted)
[12:35] <mattyw> fwereade, rogpeppe is one or both of you packing dominion?
[12:36] <fwereade> mattyw, I will surely pack a set or two
[12:36] <fwereade> mattyw, hopefully so will rogpeppe or dimitern as well
[13:13] <rogpeppe> fwereade: i definitely intend to bring some, probably seaside, prosperity, maybe intrigue too
[13:14] <fwereade> rogpeppe, intrigue is probably my favourite -- hopefully dimitern will bring his :)
[13:14] <fwereade> rogpeppe, any of mine you'd be particularly interested to see?
[13:14] <dooferlad> TheMue: Another review for you... http://reviews.vapour.ws/r/1400/
[13:15] <rogpeppe> fwereade: i haven't played many real life games with alchemy, and dark ages is always good
[13:15] <fwereade> rogpeppe, I don;t have alchemy actually -- I'll probably go with hinterlands/dark ages
[13:15] <rogpeppe> fwereade: sgtm
[13:17] <rogpeppe> fwereade: BTW i came across your recent dependency engine thing - cool stuff!
[13:17] <fwereade> rogpeppe, glad you like it -- it borrows heavily from worker.Runner
[13:17] <rogpeppe> fwereade: i like that it fits in with the worker framework too
[13:18] <fwereade> rogpeppe, and I *suspect* will come closer still to it as I need to cover some of the more baroque cases I want in jujud
[13:18] <fwereade> rogpeppe, yeah, absolutely, the worker approach has been fantastic -- it's just organising them clearly where we've really fallen down
[13:18] <rogpeppe> fwereade: i still don't quite understand the overall motivation behind it mind
[13:19] <fwereade> rogpeppe, I want to run something to take over some of the uniter's responsibilities when certain resources (like an api conn) are not available
[13:19] <rogpeppe> fwereade: the output value thing could probably do with a little more documentation
[13:20] <fwereade> rogpeppe, the thought of coordinating two distinct workers that ran at such very different levels made me cry
[13:20] <fwereade> rogpeppe, noted, thanks
[13:21] <rogpeppe> fwereade: i found the term "manifold" somewhat opaque; was this the meaning you had in mind "a manifold is a topological space that resembles Euclidean space near each point. More precisely, each point of an n-dimensional manifold has a neighbourhood that is homeomorphic to the Euclidean space of dimension n"
[13:31] <rogpeppe> ?
[13:32] <fwereade> rogpeppe, no, it's a mechanism with pipes going in and oout of it
[13:32] <rogpeppe> fwereade: ah "a chamber having several outlets through which a liquid or gas is distributed or gathered."
[13:32] <rogpeppe> fwereade: not a term i'm familiar with
[13:33] <rogpeppe> fwereade: (which isn't to say that it's not entirely appropriate!)
[13:33] <fwereade> rogpeppe, I could swear I made a point of documenting that...
[13:33] <fwereade> / Manifold defines the behaviour of a node in an Engine's dependency graph. It's
[13:33] <fwereade> / named for the "device that connects multiple inputs or outputs" sense of the
[13:33] <fwereade> / word.
[13:34] <rogpeppe> fwereade: ha, i evidently skipped over that :)
[13:34] <fwereade> rogpeppe, ;p
[13:45] <sinzui> katco, dooferlad : the commit that reverted the container SNAT rule in 1.23 may be causing aws bundle tests to fail exactly like bug 1441319
[13:45] <mup> Bug #1441319: intermittent: failed to retrieve the template to clone: template container juju-trusty-lxc-template did not stop <lxc> <oil> <juju-core:Incomplete by cox-katherine-e> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1441319>
[13:45] * sinzui tries to get container log
[13:47] <dooferlad> sinzui: no, that is because we don't support container cloning.
[13:47] <sinzui> dooferlad, this test passed on the previous version on 1.23 and we know the landscape bundle we are deploying hs not changed
[13:48] <TheMue> dooferlad: just seen your message, reviewing it now
[13:48] <sinzui> this test passed on joyent and maas 1.7 and hp cloud
[13:48] <dooferlad> sinzui: it was also reported before the SNAT rule change was reverted
[13:49] <sinzui> dooferlad, not be CI and not with 1.23
[13:50] <sinzui> dooferlad, Until your commit, CI has never seen this error. This test is voting, so 1.23 will not be blessed for a release. I need to get more information about what is wrong.
[13:57] <dooferlad> sinzui: OK, the only thing that should have changed in terms of what other machines see, is that traffic from containers comes from the containers IP address, not the host machine's address. This used to be the case before rev b584fcb85b9bcce3dadba97d32fe50e8f3680e40
[13:57] <dooferlad> on that commit we added an SNAT rule to modify all traffic leaving a container host to look as if it came from that host
[13:58] <sinzui> dooferlad, yes, I agree and this test was happy when that change was made. I don't know why but would appear. could there have been another change made inconjuction for aws
[14:01] * natefinch almost doesn't know what to do now that the HA code finally made it in.
[14:03] <dooferlad> sinzui: so it worked OK on the 8th after the proxy change? That would seem more likely.
[14:03] <sinzui> dooferlad, yep
[14:04] <natefinch> sinzui: what would you say is the correct behavior for this bug? https://bugs.launchpad.net/juju-core/+bug/1441904 just failing?
[14:04] <mup> Bug #1441904: juju upgrade-juju goes into an infinite loop if apt-get fails for any reason <canonical-is> <upgrade-juju> <juju-core:Triaged> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1441904>
[14:05] <sinzui> natefinch, yes, say it failed
[14:05] <natefinch> sinzui: wonder if we should retry a few times in case of network problems etc
[14:07] <sinzui> natefinch, I thought all apt calls were retried 3 times. dimitern fixed an issue a few months ago where juju wasn't retrying
[14:08] <natefinch> sinzui: hmm.. good question, I can check, I don't know offhand
[14:15] <sinzui> katco, I added the container.log you requested on https://bugs.launchpad.net/juju-core/+bug/1441319
[14:15] <mup> Bug #1441319: intermittent: failed to retrieve the template to clone: template container juju-trusty-lxc-template did not stop <lxc> <oil> <juju-core:Incomplete by cox-katherine-e> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1441319>
[14:16] <katco> sinzui: ty... that's from the machine that failed?
[14:17] <sinzui> katco, no larry's. the latest commit to 1.23 broken the aws deployer test in CI
[14:18] <katco> sinzui: confused... isn't larry the one who reported the failure? and this is the one we're thinking is intermittent?
[14:18] <sinzui> katco, yes, but now CI is affected. I am providing a log
[14:18] <katco> sinzui: ah ok. so we're sure it's the same issue?
[14:19] <sinzui> yep. we can reproduce it on command with 1.23 tip deploying the landscape bundle to aws
[14:19] <sinzui> I have 5 failures
[14:19] <katco> sinzui: i thought larry's issue was an lxc container problem...
[14:19] * katco apologizes if she's being dense
[14:20] <natefinch> rogpeppe, fwereade: FWIW, I have Alchemy, it's just not that great, so I kinda hesitate to lug it 3000 miles :)
[14:21] <rogpeppe> natefinch: i've quite enjoyed it on occasion in Androminion
[14:21] <sinzui> katco, oh, sorry, my error is not the same. I will report another bug.
[14:22] <katco> sinzui: k, thanks for walking me around the block on that one
[14:22] <dooferlad> it looks like that container is having problems because of apparmor. The peer has disconnected message is because https://github.com/dotcloud/lxc/blob/master/src/lxc/af_unix.c -> lxc_af_unix_rcv_credential is failing.
[14:22] <katco> sinzui: still working on some caffeien here :p
[14:22] <katco> caffeine even
[14:22] <sinzui> katco, thank you for questioning me. I am low on caffeine.
[14:22] <katco> sinzui: a toast!
[14:23] <natefinch> rogpeppe: at least it's small. I could probably leave the box at home and it would be less of a big deal.
[14:23] <katco> dooferlad: are you refering to 1441319?
[14:23] <dooferlad> katco: yes
[14:24] <katco> dooferlad: which log on that bug?
[14:24] <dooferlad> katco: https://bugs.launchpad.net/juju-core/+bug/1441319/+attachment/4371597/+files/container.log (the last attachment, from sinzui)
[14:24] <mup> Bug #1441319: intermittent: failed to retrieve the template to clone: template container juju-trusty-lxc-template did not stop <lxc> <oil> <juju-core:Incomplete by cox-katherine-e> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1441319>
[14:25] <katco> dooferlad: ah ok. so that will be relavant to sinzui's new bug he's opening, not 1441319
[14:25] <dooferlad> katco: yea, indeed
[14:25] <katco> relevant even
[14:25] <katco> jees with the spelling this morning
[14:29] <alexisb> dooferlad, can you work iwth sinzui on a bug as a result of your lastest commit
[14:33] <dooferlad> alexisb: sure
[14:33] <alexisb> and dooferlad I just finished reading the backscroll :)
[14:35] <sinzui> dooferlad, katco sorry, more caffeine and CI's error is the same as oil's 'failed to retrieve the template to clone: template container
[14:35] <sinzui> "juju-trusty-lxc-template" did not stop'
[14:35] <sinzui> instance-id: pending so https://bugs.launchpad.net/juju-core/+bug/1441319 is the issue
[14:35] <mup> Bug #1441319: intermittent: failed to retrieve the template to clone: template container juju-trusty-lxc-template did not stop <lxc> <oil> <juju-core:Incomplete by cox-katherine-e> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1441319>
[14:37] <katco> sinzui: that's actually great! repeatable!
[14:49] <dooferlad> TheMue: thanks for that review. Fixes commited.
[14:54] <natefinch> anyone have an opinion on the best way to get a PR merged into master into the 1.23 branch? I could re-PR to 1.23, or I could cherry-pick from master to 1.23... not sure which was is "better" (or if there's a better third way)
[14:56] <natefinch> mgz: ^ any thoughts?
[14:56] <natefinch> (should say "to get a PR that was merged into master, into the 1.23 branch"
[14:59] <natefinch> sinzui: for the record, we try apt installs *30* times, with 10 second delays between each. Wowza.
[14:59] <sinzui> natefinch, well we tried. juju can admit it failed
[14:59] <katco> natefinch: i always like to cherry pick from master, but that's just my workflow
[14:59] <katco> natefinch: if it's important that it be done fast for 1.23, land it there first and forward port
[15:00] <natefinch> sinzui: yep, it shouldn't be a big deal to have the error from apt-get just tell the command to fail. If it doesn't work after trying for 5 minutes, it's not going to work.
[15:00] <dooferlad> katco: I thought forward porting was the new normal. Maybe just for Saphire.
[15:00] <natefinch> no, we're supposed to land on 1.23 first and forward port ,from what I remember... I just did the wrong thing
[15:00] <katco> dooferlad: could be? i don't think it really matters... isn't it personal preference?
[15:01] <natefinch> katco: I don't think it really matters, which is not the same as saying no one cares ;)
[15:01] <katco> natefinch: hey. you paint that shed blue dammit.
[15:03] <natefinch> I have an email from alexisb about making sure to land on stable and then forward port to master.... but it was only sent to me and wwitzel3, but I think that's The Way It's Supposed To Be™
[15:17] <sinzui> natefinch, bug 1394755 says it is fixed in 1.23, but I don't see the commit. I do see the commit in master though
[15:17] <mup> Bug #1394755: juju ensure-availability should be able to target existing machines <cloud-installer> <ha> <landscape> <juju-core:Fix Committed by natefinch> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1394755>
[15:22] <mup> Bug #1436863 was opened: test failure replicaset_test.go:52: SetUpTest.pN42_github_com_juju_juju_replicaset.MongoSuite <ci> <ppc64el> <regression> <test-failure> <juju-core:Triaged> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1436863>
[15:31] <natefinch> sinzui: working on that, sorry
[15:36] <natefinch> katco: how do I cherry-pick the PR without listing out the 37 commits? Picking just the merge commit says I'm missing -m, and using -m says it expects a numerical value, but I have no idea what the number should be
[15:37] <natefinch> also probably doesn't help that I have merge commits from master into that branch... sigh
[16:04] <sinzui> mgz, can your review http://reviews.vapour.ws/r/1409/
[16:05] <katco> natefinch: sorry i was in a meeting
[16:06] <katco> natefinch: i am the worst person to ask for advice on git, because i use an emacs mode which does it all for me
[16:06] <natefinch> katco: haha no problem
[16:06] <mgz> sinzui: on it
[16:06] <natefinch> katco: I think I'm getting it. I just ended up doing a cherry pick of all ~34 non-merge commits
[16:07] <mgz> sinzui: lgtm, hold till when you need it
[16:07] <sinzui> thank you mgz
[16:13] <alexisb> natefinch, "git help -a" should have what you are looking for
[16:13] <alexisb> though I must admit that it has been a long time since i have done a kernel patch and used git
[16:15] <natefinch> alexisb: git help doesn't always.
[16:15] <katco> alexisb: you used to work on the linux kernel?
[16:15] <alexisb> yes mam
[16:15] <katco> alexisb: that's awesome!
[16:16] <natefinch> alexisb: I thought i had it, but somehow my cherry pick left this branch in a bad state... some code referring to packages that don't exist. Sigh.
[16:16] <alexisb> it was fun, there are days I think about going back :)
[16:16] <katco> alexisb: nooo! we need you!
[16:17] <alexisb> katco, it has been long enough I would have to really work to get back into it, my last public commit was in 2008 I believe
[16:17] <natefinch> alexisb: I'm sure it's mostly the same ;)
[16:18] <sinzui> natefinch, I have paused CI because I have a change merging now, and I don't want CI to be busy when you change arrives
[16:18] <natefinch> sinzui: thanks, I guess. I don't know that my change will make it in terribly soon, given the troubles I'm having with git, and I need to go pick up my daughter from preschool in 20 minutes
[16:19] <sinzui> :(
[16:19] <katco> natefinch: is it checked into 1.23?
[16:19] <sinzui> natefinch, I assume CI will take 3 hours to test my version change.
[16:20] <natefinch> katco: no, it's in master, that's the problem... I developed it off of master, merged master into my branch a couple times, and then PR'd into master
[16:20] <katco> natefinch: so you're trying to backport?
[16:20] <natefinch> katco: yes
[16:20] <katco> natefinch: what's the commit hash?
[16:21] <natefinch> katco: b228e89dd3ef9a3fe0f14b958db123e87a68bc48
[16:22] <natefinch> katco: I presume there's some magic command line that'll do the right thing... but I'll be damned if I can figure it out.
[16:22] <katco> natefinch: from what i can remember, it's not a single command
[16:22] <katco> natefinch: you set cherry head, and upstream
[16:22] <katco> natefinch: and then start picking commits
[16:25] <alexisb> natefinch, katco if we have someone that can help out natefinch on this that would be great
[16:25] <alexisb> we gotta get 1.23 out
[16:25] <katco> alexisb: i am backporting now
[16:28] <mup> Bug #1258485 changed: support leader election for charms <juju-core:Fix Released by jameinel> <cassandra (Juju Charms Collection):Triaged> <postgresql (Juju Charms Collection):Triaged> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1258485>
[16:29] <katco> natefinch: ptal: http://reviews.vapour.ws/r/1410/
[16:29] <katco> natefinch: especially make sure i didn't mess up the merge
[16:31] <natefinch> katco: hmm.... I think I must have given you the wrong hash.... that's not what needed to get ported... well, that may still need to get ported, but that's not all of it
[16:31] <katco> natefinch: is there more than one commit?
[16:31] <natefinch> katco: there's two different merges... one is the test fixes and one is the HA --to code
[16:32] <katco> natefinch: k i'll pull the other commit too
[16:33] <natefinch> katco: there's Merge pull request #1962 from natefinch/ha3 which contains 37 commits :/
[16:33] <katco> natefinch: k tal
[16:34] <mgz> it is possible to charrypick an entire merged branch with git, I don't recall the spelling off the top of my head
[16:35] <natefinch> mgz: it's the spelling that I'm not sure of... plus the branch contains commits that are merges from master to that branch, which would contain changes that shouldn't go into 1.23 (presumably)
[16:35] <mgz> natefinch: right, but the diff from merged to master commit vs previous commit to master should be the right thing
[16:37] <mgz> so the dumb version is just take that diff and apply it, but cherry-pick does have a one-step of that
[16:37] <natefinch> mgz: I would think so, but I'm always disappointed in what vcs figures out on its own
[16:38] <mgz> git just doesn't record mainline, so talking about three-way merges in the commandline is more annoying
[16:38] <natefinch> unfortunately, I gotta run to pick up my daughter.... I'll be back in like an hour. That's about the best I can do.
[16:44] <katco> gosh... it's going to be hard for me to merge this much in without knowing anything about what i'm merging
[16:48] <mgz> katco: how conflicty is the `git cherry-pick -m <rev for parent> <merge rev>`?
[16:56] <sinzui> natefinch, mgz, I think I had to use patch or format-patch once
[16:58] <katco> mgz: 47 unmerged files
[16:59] <mup> Bug #1442719 was opened: juju sync-tools fails <sync-tools> <windows> <juju-core:Triaged> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1442719>
[16:59] <katco> mgz: i (or rather emacs) ended up doing "git --no-pager -c core.preloadindex=true merge master~2 --no-commit"
[17:01] <mgz> hm, I wonder if that's actually right without specifying the mainline?
[17:01] <katco> mgz: i'm merging it into a branch off of 1.23 upstream
[17:02] <mgz> maybe the ~2 just happens to be resolving right on sha1 alpha order
[17:02] <katco> mgz: it is; that's emacs doing magic
[17:02] <katco> mgz: i found the merge master hash, hit m and it does the right thing
[17:02] <katco> mgz: i would hate doing all of this manually
[17:03] <katco> mgz: which is to say via the command line
[17:03] <mgz> well resolving conflicts is always going to need an editor
[17:03] <mgz> you can use an OS if you want :P
[17:03] <katco> mgz: haha
[17:03] <katco> mgz: i'll show you this workflow in nuremberg. it's quite nice
[17:04] <mgz> neat
[17:04] <katco> mgz: merge dumps me into a buffer with all merge conflicts. pressing "e" on an unmerged file dumps me into a visual diff
[17:04] <katco> mgz: and i hit "a" or "b" depending on which side i want. and can edit in 3rd pane at bottom
[17:05] <katco> alexisb: i can't perform this backport. i don't know enough about the patch to perform the requisite merges.
[17:05] <alexisb> katco, just fyi, the juju-core leadership team advocates the process of forward porting as juju has historically seen more issues with back porting then forward porting
[17:05] <alexisb> katco, ack, we will have to wait for natefinch then
[17:05] <katco> alexisb: ok, duly noted.
[17:05] <alexisb> as wwitzel3 is traveling
[17:06] <alexisb> mgz, sinzui if need be we will have to add the HA working in a point release
[17:07] <alexisb> sinzui, mgz, dooferlad, where are we with the aws container failure?
[17:08] <sinzui> alexisb, If Ubuntu deem the patch to be a feature, they will not accept it. natefinch is the patch more like a bug than a feature
[17:10] <alexisb> sinzui, in many of the "bugs" we fix for stakeholders there is a fine line between feature and bug
[17:11] <alexisb> I see your point, but thought we had decided this was a bug
[17:12] <sinzui> alexisb, yes, and Ubuntu doesn't honour that line they have reject our streams change in 1.20 and our right refused to package the backup/restore changes to 1.16.4
[17:14] <alexisb> katco, get with natefinch when he is back and lets get this merged
[17:14] <alexisb> sinzui, I see this impacting our ability to deliver by weds
[17:14] <alexisb> sinzui, where do we stand on the aws failure mentioned this morning?
[17:14] <sinzui> No progress.
[17:15] <sinzui> alexisb, and this bug was just moved to juju-core https://bugs.launchpad.net/juju-core/+bug/1439535
[17:15] <mup> Bug #1439535: 1.23-beta2 websocket incompatibility <juju-core:New> <python-jujuclient:Incomplete> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1439535>
[17:16] <sinzui> ^ There are contradictions about beta3 being affected
[17:16] <alexisb> so sinzui adding bugs is not helping get the release out :)
[17:17] <alexisb> so lets start with the bug from this morning, what does no progress mean?
[17:17] <alexisb> is there no one from core looking at it? is there something blocking us from debugging the issue?
[17:18] <sinzui> alexisb, neither katco or dooferlad have asked for more information from me after I provided the log that was requested.
[17:18] <sinzui> alexisb, I am at a critical moment in the release, so I cannot let myself get too distracted
[17:19] <alexisb> sinzui, that is fine, I understand
[17:19] <alexisb> dooferlad, are you still around?
[17:19] <dooferlad> alexisb: just. In the middle of feeding the baby
[17:20] <alexisb> :) that is a fun task
[17:20] <alexisb> I know it is close to your eod but have you had a chance to take a look at the logs sinzui provided
[17:21] <dooferlad> alexisb: As I said above, the failure seems to be to do with LXC and apparmor having a bad interaction.
[17:21] <dooferlad> alexisb: and I haven't touched code anywhere near that
[17:22] <alexisb> dooferlad, ack, katco is this similar to the issue you looked at earlier this week?
[17:22] <katco> alexisb: yeah... looks to be exactly the same
[17:23] <alexisb> which we determined was not a juju issue, correct?
[17:23] <sinzui> dooferlad, really. great. let me check to see if an apparmor change was delivered to trusty in the last day ( and see if the aws mirrors are our of sync
[17:24] <katco> alexisb: we were leaning that way because we hadn't touched the code in that area; however, sinzui indicated that a commit caused this to be repeatable?
[17:24] <katco> dooferlad: or was sinzui saying the change was your commit?
[17:24] <sinzui> dooferlad, katco. apparmor did change last week:
[17:24] <sinzui> 2.8.95~2430-0ubuntu5 release (main) 2014-04-04
[17:25] <katco> sinzui: if we haven't done any commits that touch that area of code, i'm blaming that
[17:25] <sinzui> We have testing this week that says aws was fine, but let me see if I can find evidence that the mirrors are stale
[17:25] <katco> sinzui: i apologize, i still don't understand the connection between aws and an lxc issue?
[17:26] <sinzui> katco, I am sorry about the situation
[17:26] <katco> sinzui: i'm assuming that i'm missing something; nothing to be sorry for
[17:30] <dooferlad> OK all, see you in Germany!
[17:30] <katco> dooferlad: see you there!
[17:31] <natefinch> katco: back
[17:31] <rogpeppe> mgz: here's the start of the fix to godeps - copying a bunch of code from the go tool: https://codereview.appspot.com/223390043/
[17:32] <katco> natefinch: hey, i can't backport that change... there are too many merge conflicts i don't understand
[17:32] <natefinch> katco: I was worried about that
[17:33] <mgz> rogpeppe: neat! I had a look at your get upstream change earlier, that seems like a good idea regardless
[17:39] <katco> natefinch: try "git --no-pager -c core.preloadindex=true merge master~2 --no-commit" but tweak the ~2 to point to the correct merge hash for your branch of master
[17:40] <natefinch> katco: man, how did I miss something so obvious?
[17:40] <katco> natefinch: (shrugs) it's easy to get blinders on that you have to cherry
[17:41] <perrito666> natefinch: obviously you dont use emacs, there most likely is a shortcut for that, smth like: Ctrl-M gnpccptmmnc2
[17:41] <katco> perrito666: lol i put my cursor over the merge hash and pressed "m"
[17:41] <katco> some of those command line flags are probably superfluous
[17:42] * katco somewhat embarrassingly just realized natefinch was joking.
[17:42] <natefinch> katco: how do I figure out the number after ~? That stuff confuses the hell out of me
[17:42] <natefinch> katco: lol yes
[17:42] <katco> natefinch: it's just an offset from head
[17:43] <katco> natefinch: so however many commits back from head that merge hash is for you
[17:43] <natefinch> katco: you say that, but sometimes ~2 brings in like 1000 changes if you've done a merge
[17:43] <katco> natefinch: i pulled from trunk recently so it is likely the same, but i would 2x check
[17:48] <alexisb> katco, I need to step out for a bit, but I will be back soon, can you please make sure that the latest summary gets captured here: https://bugs.launchpad.net/juju-core/+bug/1441319
[17:48] <mup> Bug #1441319: intermittent: failed to retrieve the template to clone: template container juju-trusty-lxc-template did not stop <deployer> <lxc> <oil> <regression> <juju-core:Triaged by cox-katherine-e> <juju-core 1.23:Triaged> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1441319>
[17:49] <alexisb> so that we don't loose the conversation that happened on irc
[17:49] <katco> alexisb: sure
[17:49] <alexisb> thanks
[17:50] <natefinch> katco: this keeps bringing in a ton of changes to files I know I haven't been anywhere near
[17:51] <katco> natefinch: ok, i'll see if i can wizard up another command for you
[17:51] <natefinch> katco: what I really need is to just whip up a patch file from the commit to master and then apply that to 1.23...
[17:55] <katco> natefinch: so see on the PR, the merge has 2 parents? https://github.com/juju/juju/commit/b228e89dd3ef9a3fe0f14b958db123e87a68bc48
[17:55] <katco> natefinch: which is the parent you don't want to cherry?
[17:56] * perrito666 has a ton of things to do and already lost 6hs on bureaucracy and now I just discovered that wile I was a away the mailman delivered mail... before the rain
[17:57] <natefinch> katco: both of those should be fine... though I don;t know why those are parents per se... those are just the two previous commits I made
[18:00] <natefinch> katco: I think the problem is that I merged master into my branch, which is evidently screwing up git, because it thinks I then want to merge that into 1.23, which I don't.
[18:02] <cmars> natefinch, i've often found git diff start..merge | patch -p1 --merge works, when cherry-pick doesn't dwiw. maybe there's a way to tell cherry-pick how to pick a sensible parent, but i've not grasped it
[18:03] <cmars> that's kind of dirty, but works when branches have diverged quite a bit
[18:03] <katco> natefinch: so maybe do both: git cherry-pick b228e89dd3ef9a3fe0f14b958db123e87a68bc48 -m 1
[18:04] <katco> natefinch: and then git cherry-pick b228e89dd3ef9a3fe0f14b958db123e87a68bc48 -m 2
[18:07] <mgz> right, that's it
[18:07] <mgz> whether it's -m 1 or 2 depends on alpha order of the parent shas
[18:08] <mgz> you may want to squidge the commits anywhat if using cherrypick
[18:08] <cmars> git-squidge should totally be a thing
[18:08] <katco> cmars: lol
[18:09] <natefinch> katco: so far, the first one looks promising
[18:10] <natefinch> katco: and that second one brings in a bunch of crap that is totally wrong. So maybe just the first one is correct
[18:11] <natefinch> running tests... we'll see how it goes. It looks promising
[18:18] <katco> natefinch: are you sure that has all of the changes you need?
[18:19] <natefinch> katco: nope. I should probably throw up a diff and make sure it includes everything
[18:29] <natefinch> katco: looking good. Files look correct. NUmber of changes is correct
[18:30] <katco> natefinch: woohoo!
[18:45] <natefinch> well, it is missing my other test fixes, but that's just a single commit which hopefully is trivial to cherry-pick
[18:45] <katco> not bad
[18:45] <natefinch> they're not strictly part of HA, but they fail reliably on my machine... maybe they don't on the bot though
[18:46] <natefinch> I think the bot is running with GO_MAX_PROCS = 1, which is likely the difference
[18:46] <katco> ah yeah i run with that too... i learned quickly lol
[18:48] <natefinch> katco: I think that backport you produced is actually the other half of stuff I'd like to get in
[18:48] <katco> natefinch: lol i deleted the pr
[18:49] <natefinch> katco: here's the review for my backport (really, I should just call it your backport ;)
[18:49] <natefinch> http://reviews.vapour.ws/r/1414/
[18:49] <katco> natefinch: ah jees... for the same reason i couldn't do the backport, this is going to be hard to review
[18:49] <katco> natefinch: how confident are you that you pulled the right changes?
[18:50] <mgz> I'm going to have a bunch of trivial changes to licence headers I'll need a rubber stamp on shortly
[18:50] <mgz> ..meh, and dep bumps that's a bit more painful
[18:51] <natefinch> katco: basically 100%. I did a visual side by side diff of the changes for the original PR: https://github.com/juju/juju/pull/1962/files vs. the backport PR: https://github.com/juju/juju/pull/2060/files
[18:51] <natefinch> katco: the diff in the review in this case is not really useful. You need to diff the two diffs :)
[18:51] <katco> natefinch: k i'm going to rubber stamp it then...
[18:52] <katco> natefinch: and tests are passing?
[18:52] <mgz> oh, but I'm being called for food first
[18:53] <natefinch> katco: they only fail in the way the ones on master fail for me... if that's any consolation. Some of that is what I fixed in that other PR
[18:53] <katco> k
[18:53] <katco> you have been rubber stamped
[18:54] <natefinch> katco: I promise to fall on the grenade if it blows up after merging.
[18:54] <katco> lol
[18:57] <natefinch> So, last night at 6pm, I realized that my last two pairs of jeans that were at all fit to wear had decided to simultaneously acquire large rips in the knees.... and given no time to actually go out shopping anywhere.. .I made my first purchase of jeans off amazon, to be delivered tomorrow, hopefully before I have to leave.
[18:57] <katco> lol that is brave
[18:58] <natefinch> I *think* they're a style that has fit well before... and men's sizes are usually regular enough that as long as I stay away from slim-fit and other nonsense, they'll just work. But yes, it is a bit of a gamble.
[18:58] <natefinch> I wouldn't have done it if they didn't explicitly say they have free returns.
[19:00] <natefinch> katco: btw..... just noticed this works: https://patch-diff.githubusercontent.com/raw/juju/juju/pull/1962.patch
[19:00] <sinzui> dooferlad, katco. I have confirmed that 1.22.1 and 1.23-beta4 can deploy the test bundle to aws, but the revision that changed reverted container networking cannot. I can report a separate bug if you think that will be less confusing.
[19:01] <natefinch> katco: I got that from seeing this tip at the bottom of the PR page: ProTip! Add .patch or .diff to the end of URLs for Git's plaintext views.
[19:01] <sinzui> dooferlad, The release notes for the container networking state it was only enabled for aws and maas. Could the revision be incomplete? Does something else need to change for aws?
[19:01] <natefinch> anyway, I gotta run some errands, I'll check back in later to see if this has blown up or not
[19:02] <natefinch> katco: I'll try to get you an email with info ASAP, but it might be late tonight.
[19:02] <natefinch> (info about team lead stuff)
[19:03] <katco> sinzui: can you explain the lxc + aws connection to me?
[19:03] <sinzui> katco, bundle is deploying to two containers.
[19:04] <katco> sinzui: ah ok, so it's deploying containers to an aws host?
[19:05] <sinzui> yes. Two app servers in a containers, and haproxy directly on the host to round-robin the work load
[19:05] <katco> sinzui: ah ok. thanks, that's the information i was missing
[19:05] <sinzui> katco, let me update the bug with the command line. I used any of us can run it. It isn't anything like the awkward CI tests
[19:06] <katco> sinzui: awesome
[19:06] <katco> sinzui: so to echo this back to make sure i understand
[19:07] <katco> sinzui: 1.23-b4 works? where was the commit that breaks things? trunk?
[19:08] <sinzui> katco, the dooferlad's commit is the only change from 1.23-beta4 released. We used cherylj's commit
[19:09] <katco> sinzui: ah so it was to 1.23-beta4, it just hasn't been packaged (released) yet?
[19:09] <sinzui> katco, it was released 20 minutes ago.
[19:11] <katco> sinzui: so i'm confused (sorry)... you said 1.23-beta4 is working, but 1.23-beta4 includes dooferlad's commit, which is not working?
[19:11] <sinzui> no
[19:12] <sinzui> katco, we selected cherylj's as the official 1.23-beta4 because tip was broken.
[19:13] <katco> ah ok
[19:13] <katco> i understand now, thanks
[19:13] <katco> and that commit repeatably works whereas dooferlad's commit repeatably fails
[19:14] <katco> sinzui: is that https://github.com/juju/juju/commit/7e7bc9d3ad436cf25fa725f54334527cea9cb938 ?
[19:14] <sinzui> katco, https://bugs.launchpad.net/juju-core/+bug/1441319/comments/11
[19:14] <mup> Bug #1441319: intermittent: failed to retrieve the template to clone: template container juju-trusty-lxc-template did not stop <deployer> <lxc> <oil> <regression> <juju-core:Triaged by cox-katherine-e> <juju-core 1.23:Triaged> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1441319>
[19:15] <sinzui> yes, that is the commit that breaks things.
[19:15] <katco> sinzui: well at first glance, it certainly looks to be directly related...
[19:16] <sinzui> katco, Since the release notes say only maas and aws were supported by SNAT, maybe another change was made that also needs to be reverted
[19:17] <lazyPower> Attention core developers - juju actions are friggin sweet. Thank you for this feature. that is all
[19:17] <katco> lazyPower: hey you are pretty awesome.
[19:17] <lazyPower> :D
[19:18] <lazyPower> I've been prototyping actions for a couple days now. i want to go through and hyperbole all the charms with actions now
[19:18] <katco> lazyPower: i want to work on a charm with you at the sprint
[19:18] <lazyPower> actions ALL THE THINGS
[19:18] <katco> lol
[19:18] <lazyPower> katco: i wont be at n.burg :(
[19:18] <katco> lazyPower: oh what the boo
[19:18] <lazyPower> only a handfull of eco peeps wil be there, we got split up
[19:18] <lazyPower> we're now under d. westervelt in the big division of juju teams
[19:19] <katco> yeah heard about that
[19:19] <katco> didn't realize you wouldn't be at the sprints though... for good?
[19:19] <lazyPower> hopefully not
[19:19] <lazyPower> but we'll see what the future brings
[19:19] <lazyPower> marco, cory and antonio will be there however
[19:19] <katco> cool
[19:20] <lazyPower> also - i'm *always* up for a review/pairing session
[19:20] <lazyPower> just hit me with a repo link and a timeblock and i can make time to pair
[19:20] <katco> cool
[19:20] <katco> wish i had more time to actually use juju and not just work on it :p
[19:20] <katco> just have a small installation on my home network
[19:20] <lazyPower> i've got coutn it - 8 environments running now
[19:21] <lazyPower> that i manage/assist
[19:21] <katco> wow
[19:21] <katco> that's pretty cool
[19:21] <lazyPower> :D
[19:21] <lazyPower> getting easier every day
[19:21] <katco> my cousin works at a zoo which is understaffed
[19:21] <lazyPower> keep landing great features and i'll keep spinning up the envs
[19:21] <katco> and they need to stand up a bunch of standard windows things
[19:21] <katco> pinged him to use juju
[19:21] <lazyPower> oh man
[19:21] <lazyPower> our windows support without maas/openstack is non-existant today
[19:22] <katco> so bring them to maas! ;)
[19:22] <lazyPower> +1 for that
[19:26] <katco> sinzui: so this kind of blows any theory that the apparmor update was at all responsible?
[19:26] <katco> sinzui: since cherylj's commit works fine
[19:27] <sinzui> katco, yes, I didn't see any issue with the aws mirrors to imply they are different from other mirrors too
[19:31] <katco> sinzui: ok. well, we'll have to ping alexisb for her opinion on what to do. i'm assuming this blocks v1.23 for the time being?
[19:37] <sinzui> katco, this is very awkward, because dooferlad was reverting to unblock. so we cannot revert his change. We need to find another change that was made related to the SNAT
[19:40] <katco> sinzui: do you know if anyone else was involved with that code?
[19:41] <sinzui> I don't. I can only think to use annotate and log to find other parts of the code that were changed for snat.
[19:45] <katco> sinzui: looks like possibly dimiter
[19:59] <alexisb> katco, whats up?
[20:00] <katco> alexisb: well, curtis has arguably proved that we have a commit in juju that is responsible for the failures
[20:00] <alexisb> lazyPower, make sure to thank jw4 for actions
[20:00] <katco> alexisb: it's made complicated by the fact that the commit was backing another commit out to fix another issue
[20:01] <katco> alexisb: we probably need dimiter+team to make further changes to fix tip
[20:01] <katco> 1.23 tip
[20:03] <alexisb> well that means we have to wait tell monday for those fixes
[20:03] <katco> alexisb: that is the issue we needed your input on
[20:03] <katco> alexisb: what does that mean for vivid?
[20:04] <alexisb> it means we release vivid with a broken juju
[20:05] <alexisb> so what "fix" was reverted that broke aws and why did we revert it?
[20:06] <katco> sorry had to blow my nose >.<
[20:06] <katco> sinzui: do you know the answer to that question?
[20:07] <alexisb> the issue is that we have a known issue that affects oil and any openstack bundle really, and the current 1.23 blessed version does not have a fix for that issue
[20:07] <katco> alexisb: here's the suspect commit: https://github.com/juju/juju/commit/7e7bc9d3ad436cf25fa725f54334527cea9cb938
[20:08] <alexisb> which means the first 1.23.0 we are targeted to get released to vivid will break many of our stakeholders
[20:08] <alexisb> but if we dont release then juju will just not work on vivid
[20:09] <katco> alexisb: well that's not a good decision to have to make.
[20:09] <alexisb> katco, so that commit is actually a fix for the issue I am referring to
[20:09] <alexisb> I take it that is the one that is breaking aws
[20:09] <katco> alexisb: yep.
[20:09] <sinzui> alexisb, the bug doesn't really say we reverted the container network changes. It says we made a small change that address stakeholder conerns. the change just is not enough to restore AWS containers. maas containers are fixed
[20:10] <katco> alexisb: can oil work around the bug by manually tweaking the nat tables on containers?
[20:10] <alexisb> yeah I actually dont think it is reverting anything
[20:10] <mgz> hmm, who reported the aws container issues?
[20:10] <sinzui> alexisb, this is difficult. before the change this morning some charms were broken, now all aws containers are broken
[20:10] <alexisb> mgz, you guys did :)
[20:11] <alexisb> katco, I dont have answer to your question jamespage would have an answer
[20:11] <alexisb> sinzui, yeah it sucks :)
[20:12] <sinzui> mgz, https://bugs.launchpad.net/juju-core/+bug/1441319/comments/9 and beyond
[20:12] <mup> Bug #1441319: intermittent: failed to retrieve the template to clone: template container juju-trusty-lxc-template did not stop <deployer> <lxc> <oil> <regression> <juju-core:Triaged by cox-katherine-e> <juju-core 1.23:Triaged> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1441319>
[20:12] <alexisb> so if we know that maas is fixed, is there a way to trace the aws code path and figure out what is different that would affect the issue
[20:13] <alexisb> katco, question for you ^^^
[20:13] <katco> alexisb: it's possible, but not likely in the time we have with what resources are left
[20:14] <alexisb> katco, that is totally fair
[20:15] <alexisb> so the next question is, is it more important for the first release to have oil working or aws containers working?
[20:15] <alexisb> and katco I need to follow-up re your question on work around
[20:16] <mgz> so... I think containers on aws matters a fair bit for our testing, but I don't know of any customers deploying on aws
[20:16] * alexisb goes to jason hobbs
[20:16] <mgz> as in, big paying ones, lots of people use it
[20:18] <katco> alexisb: mgz: yeah, i'm thinking OIL is probably more important to get right out of the gate?
[20:18] <alexisb> yeah I am thinking oil working is going to be the priority
[20:18] <alexisb> katco, you beat me to it
[20:18] <katco> will oil be utilizing vivid right away?
[20:18] <mgz> almost certainly not
[20:18] <sinzui> katco, not likely
[20:19] <katco> hm
[20:19] <katco> so the "crumple zones" we have are: workarounds, and adoption rate
[20:19] <alexisb> but they do use the latest stable of juju
[20:19] <katco> if we can understand those better, we could probably make a better decision
[20:19] <sinzui> and they want leader elections
[20:19] <katco> yeah
[20:20] <katco> well, i guess i vote oil then.
[20:20] <alexisb> yeah so katco we do have a pretty good understanding of those, oil is the right choice
[20:20] <alexisb> it just sucks
[20:20] <alexisb> given there is an obvious failure we can see in our testing
[20:20] <katco> yeah =/
[20:21] <alexisb> so sinzui ....
[20:21] <katco> another lesson learned: releases should be "done" well before sprints and everyone takes off
[20:21] <alexisb> lol
[20:21] <sinzui> alexisb, there are now 3 regressions are in https://bugs.launchpad.net/juju-core/+milestone/1.23.0
[20:21] <alexisb> well we had planned for 3/27 but you know ho that goes
[20:21] <katco> lol yeah
[20:24] <alexisb> sinzui, you are referring to all the ones marked critical
[20:25] <sinzui> yes.
[20:25] <alexisb> so lp 1439535 just came to us today
[20:25] <alexisb> we think that 811 is fixed
[20:25] <sinzui> alexisb, and I think we need me to split one of them. because while the errors CI sees are the same as oil in one of the bugs, we know they were using a older juju
[20:25] <alexisb> and will not be able to verify thta without a release
[20:26] <sinzui> alexisb, we could say it is fixed, except the same charms listed in the bug are still broken on aws
[20:27] <alexisb> sinzui, we should open a new bug, as what I really want to know is if oil is fixed for that bug
[20:27] <alexisb> if it is then we need to figure out the path for aws
[20:27] <alexisb> if it is not then we need to rethink the fix altogether
[20:27] <sinzui> okay, I will shuffle the bugs
[20:30] <alexisb> sinzui, thank you for all you work helping us sort all these issues out
[20:31] <katco> sinzui: yeah curtis, you are amazing
[20:31] <davecheney> katco: anything customer facing will be on the LTS releases as that is all we well support on an all that our support wing will support customers using
[20:31] <davecheney> we don't have charms for the non LTS releases either
[20:31] <sinzui> alexisb, katco, My son doesn't think so. I forgot to pick him up from school 45 minutes ago. I suck
[20:32] <katco> sinzui: oh no :(
[20:32] <katco> davecheney: ah ok ty for the added info
[20:34] <davecheney> katco: and recently I found out that CTS doen't even start recommending the new LTS version for 4-6 months after release
[20:34] <alexisb> katco, davecheney is correct, however we do have a special circumstance in the case of 1.23 because the openstack team next released set of charms will leverage Leader Elections
[20:34] <davecheney> the first "stabilty release" or some other euphemism, stragenly coinciding with the point release
[20:34] <alexisb> so we will need 1.23 for that release at the end of the month
[20:34] <davecheney> alexisb: what does that have to do with V ?
[20:35] <katco> davecheney: i am familiar with that pattern from the MS world. maybe it spilled over somehow
[20:35] <alexisb> davecheney, point taken, actually nothing except the release is aligned
[20:37] <davecheney> alexisb: it's probably because to get 1.23 backported we always have to land a release in the current version
[20:37] <davecheney> that's the way backports work aparently
[20:37] <davecheney> if you'd like to know more
[20:37] <davecheney> i'll be crying into my beer all next week about this
[20:37] <davecheney> (try the fish)
[20:38] <katco> davecheney: lol, i'll need to pick your brain to understand the situation better
[20:39] <katco> davecheney: if you don't mind some annoying questions :)
[20:40] <davecheney> katco: oh it's a turbulet tail
[20:41] <katco> haha
[20:41] <davecheney> full of technical intriegue and skullduggery
[20:41] <davecheney> turbulet -- what kind of a word is that
[20:41] <alexisb> davecheney, lol
[20:41] <alexisb> davecheney, I like having you in this timezone
[20:41] <davecheney> how do I even adjective
[20:41] <katco> davecheney: i think you have a novel in you ;)
[20:41] <davecheney> it's weird working in this timezone
[20:42] <davecheney> i'm use to having the west coast available all morning
[20:42] <davecheney> right now, they don't come online til I get back to the hotel
[20:47] <mgz> katco: I am spamming reviewboard with licence header fixes for various juju subrepos at various versions of the branches - if you get a mo can you rubber stamp them?
[20:47] <katco> mgz: sure
[20:48] <mgz> cmd and testing*2 are there, charm*2 should be there shortly
[20:48] <mgz> then I can do the dep update and juju*2
[20:49] <mgz> katco: hm, actually charm is not under reviewboard, those are on https://github.com/juju/charm/pulls only
[20:50] <mup> Bug #1442801 was opened: aws containers are broken in 1.23 <ci> <deployer> <ec2-provider> <lxc> <regression> <juju-core:Triaged> <juju-core 1.23:Triaged by cox-katherine-e> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1442801>
[20:50] <katco> mgz: k tal
[20:52] <katco> mgz: i think i got all of them
[20:53] <mgz> katco: thanks!
[20:53] <katco> np
[21:10] <mgz> wtf is date 2015-03-30T-9:15:59Z in dependencies.tsv about...
[21:10] <mgz> I guess I'll just change that line as well
[21:12] <katco> mgz: i don't know what that's used for, so i always just change it
[21:12] <mgz> urk, there are non-trivial charm.v4 changes it seems
[21:14] <mgz> hm nope, git is just weird, everything is fine
[21:14] <katco> time to switch to my laptop to make sure everything is working properly
[21:26] <mgz> katco: last bit http://reviews.vapour.ws/r/1417
[21:26] <mgz> I may also do trunk while I;m here but less urgency on that
[21:27] <katco> mgz: kathump
[21:27] <katco> (sound of a rubber stamp)
[21:28] <mgz> :D
[21:32] <alexisb> katco, did you assign yourself to lp1442801
[21:34] <katco> alexisb: no
[21:34] <alexisb> katco, ok, I am going to go ahead and assign it to james
[21:34] <katco> alexisb: ok
[21:59] <mgz> if anyone has a mo, licence header changes for trunk too, http://reviews.vapour.ws/r/1418
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2015-04-10-#ubuntu-touch
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[03:01] <Talustus> Is there any official support for the nexus 6
[03:08] <danialbehzadi> Hey all,
[03:08] <danialbehzadi> The Translation Process for Persian is completed a long tie ago, but the Persian Language is not available in Ubuntu touch images. What id the problem and how can I resolve this?
[03:09] <SturmFlut> Talustus: No
[03:10] <Talustus> Any plans on it?
[03:11] <Talustus> I'm thinking about getting a second device for playing/dev things but dont want to buy a old/already outdated device
[03:11] <SturmFlut> Talustus: Don't think so, the device is quite expensive and there already are the Nexus 4, Nexus 7, Nexus 10 and Aquaris E4.5
[03:13] <Talustus> Any hint on wich *newer devices may get supported?
[03:14] <SturmFlut> Not from me, I'm not even with Canonical ;)
[03:16] <SturmFlut> Hopefully the Meizu MX4 will finally be launched with Ubuntu soon, but the more I wait for it the less I want it
[03:18] <Talustus> I'm currently porting over ubuntu for my galaxy s4 but dont like the idea to spend days to port it again and again for future devices
[03:19] <Talustus> Getting an s6 in the next 2 weeks then the fun starts again so i would lime to get a officialy supported one
[05:24] <nhaines> Talustus: The current ports were only to get development underway. I assume that there will be no other official ports now that retail phones are shipping, because that kind of hardware enablement is massively expensive and Canonical isn't maintaining the official ports very well already (i.e., the tablets have been ignored for a long time.)
[05:25] <lotuspsychje> nhaines: happy with your n7?
[05:27] <Guest3396> Hello? I want to show a notification like the android's notification, which is used to tell the user that something has happened in the background. for example,some service is working in background, the user can view details of the service though click the notification displayed in panel of the status bar pulled down from the top of screen.
[05:28] <Guest3396> how to do the similar notice in ubuntu touch ?
[05:34] <Guest3396> I found the Ubuntu Push System relates with the network, So it can't meet my requirements, what I want just a local notice in my device.
[05:36] <Talustus> ok nhaines
[05:46] <sturmflut-work> Guest3396: It is not possible to run your own services in the background.
[05:51] <Guest3396> oh, I just give an example. for example, my application (QML) is running, and a notification appear in pull-down panel of status bar after it back to background.
[05:53] <Guest3396> the application can be displayed to foreground when the user press the notification.
[05:54] <Guest3396> Hi sturmflut-work：This scenario can be realized?
[05:56] <Guest3396> please help me ？
[06:01] <Guest3396> I am waiting for your response, please help !
[06:14] <OerHeks> Guest3396, why not join the ubuntu phone team, and do your proposal on launchpad ?
[06:20] <Guest3396> sorry, I don't understand you! or another problem: what is Notifications which is the far left of status bar, and how to add something to the Notifications?
[06:35] <nhaines> lotuspsychje: well, I can't dual boot it so it's just running Android 5.0.1 right now. But it's really nice to have a tablet. It's just making my N5 look kinda small which I'm not happy about. ;)
[07:57] <Jim___> hello ? how to add content to Notifications panel of status bar pulled down from the top of screen?
[08:02] <Jim___> please help me ?
[08:04] <Jim___> or how to show application's icon to status bar when application is running ?
[08:05] <seb128> ogra_, those flat discharge graph are weird...
[08:05] <ogra_> seb128, well, the flat line is fine, thats the night ... it is just the bits before and the gap
[08:06] <seb128> ogra_, was your phone flat/off before?
[08:06] <seb128> the initial line being buggy is a known issue
[08:06] <ogra_> seb128, nope, running since 5 days
[08:06] <seb128> I wonder about the empty part
[08:06] <seb128> grumpf
[08:06] <ogra_> i take such a screenshot every day currently
[08:07] <seb128> I don't understand
[08:07] <seb128> does the phone sleeps so much that we don't have any upower record for half a day?
[08:07] <ogra_> http://i.imgur.com/UuOqvqW.png
[08:07] <ogra_> it doesnt drain any power when suspended
[08:08] <ogra_> (and it isnt lyin i think, else i wouldnt be at day 5)
[08:09] <seb128> so it uses less than 1% in a day?
[08:09] <ogra_> note that the graph isnt perfectly flat ... it drains ~1-2% over night
[08:09] <seb128> right
[08:09] <seb128> well, that's why you have a line
[08:09] <ogra_> during the day i only use it as much as necessary currently
[08:09] <seb128> if it was flat it would be empty
[08:10] <seb128> due to upower
[08:10] <seb128> upower only records data point on changes
[08:10] <ogra_> riht, only the gap is an issue, the rest is totally fine and accurate
[08:10] <seb128> like % change or if you plug/unplug
[08:10] <seb128> so I don't understand the gap much
[08:10] <seb128> or it's just that you had a 0% change during that time
[08:10] <seb128> so we have no record to draw during that time
[08:10] <ogra_> i dont understand why it isnt always starting at the same point
[08:11] <seb128> yeah, there is a bug in the initial value
[08:11] <ogra_> if you compare http://i.imgur.com/xq472i3.png and http://i.imgur.com/UuOqvqW.png they start at different bottom values
[08:11] <ogra_> s/bottom values/time/
[08:15] <seb128> ogra_, well, that's normal
[08:15] <seb128> ogra_, the first point is whenever the most recent battery % charge change happened
[08:15] <seb128> like on http://i.imgur.com/xq472i3.png you were like at e.G 45%
[08:15] <ogra_> do we have a db wehere we store them or some such ?
[08:16] <seb128> upower stores them
[08:16] <seb128> but as said it adds data points only on state change
[08:16] <seb128> % or charging/discharging status change
[08:16] <seb128> so let's say you had
[08:16] <ogra_> right and it seems to flush old values
[08:16] <seb128> 46% at 8
[08:17] <seb128> 45% at 19h
[08:17] <seb128> 44% at 3h
[08:17] <seb128> 43% now
[08:17] <seb128> we draw on a day
[08:17] <seb128> we start looking at 9 yesterday
[08:17] <seb128> the first value in the table is 45% at 19h
[08:17] <seb128> so that's where the graph starts
[08:18] <seb128> does that make sense?
[08:18] <seb128> we probably need to look further in the history
[08:18] <ogra_> apart from the fact that you then should use the 8 value for 9 to at least have an init point, yes
[08:18] <seb128> do the segfault between that "out of graph" point and the first in the graph
[08:18] <seb128> and interpol the start value
[08:18] <seb128> ups
[08:18] <seb128> autofingers ;-)
[08:19] <seb128> segfault->segment
[08:19] <seb128> ogra_, do we have a bug about the gap?
[08:19] <seb128> I think we have one about the spike
[08:19] <ogra_> i would start with just assigning the former datapoint to the zero time value
[08:19] <ogra_> i think you actually filed one last time we talked about it :)
[08:20] <seb128> need to check that
[08:20] <seb128> I had the spike issue in mind, not the empty part
[08:20] <seb128> that used to not be an issue when we used several %/hour
[08:20] <seb128> we had enough changes to not get such gaps :p
[08:20] <ogra_> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubuntu-system-settings/+bug/1439122
[08:20] <ogra_> heh, no, i filed it
[08:21] <seb128> ogra_, your way or "use the previous value" would be buggy
[08:21] <ogra_> totally
[08:21] <ogra_> but it would be a start
[08:21] <seb128> right
[08:21] <seb128> and I guess it's easier to do
[08:21] <ogra_> technically you would need proper math to compute the right value indeed
[08:22] <ogra_> and even then it would be a triangular computation since you dont know the actual datapoints inbetween
[08:22] <ogra_> but i doubt we can get more accurate with the data we have
[08:23] <seb128> right
[08:23] <seb128> I'm wondering if we should change upower to write a record every hour
[08:25] <ogra_> +1
[08:25] <ogra_> that would surely make it easier
[08:27] <tvoss> seb128, @graph: this is a visualization of the raw data points, correct?
[08:27] <seb128> tvoss, yes
[08:27] <seb128> we just do a canvas with the records from upower
[08:28] <seb128> direct line from point to point using the values in the record
[08:28] <tvoss> seb128, I was wondering if a rolling mean with a window of last two hours might be interesting. not necessarily for users in general, but for people who are interested in more fancy stats
[08:31] <tvoss> but then there is hardly anything to smooth out I guess
[08:40] <Jim___> hello ? how to add content to Notifications panel of status bar pulled down from the top of screen? who can give me a runnable example ?
[08:42] <seb128> Jim___, hey, I don't know if you can have indicators as clicks, I don't think so
[08:42] <seb128> you can look at e.g https://launchpad.net/indicator-display for a simple one
[08:42] <seb128> but those are included in the system, so you could locally hack one on a rw image but I'm unsure you could distribute one through the store
[08:43] <ogra_> Jim___, https://caxton.herokuapp.com/ .... not sure if stuart has the code somewhere linked there
[08:43] <seb128> ogra_, that's not an indicator, is it?
[08:44] <ogra_> it uses the message indicator
[08:44] <ogra_> the caxton app brings a notification hook
[08:44] <ogra_> so you can send stuff while the app isnt running
[08:44] <seb128> right
[08:45] <seb128> oh, maybe I didn't understand the question
[08:45] <seb128> I though he wanted to write an indicator
[08:45] <ogra_> i thought he wanted to use notifications :)
[08:45] <ogra_> but i guess Jim___ can tell us who is right (or if we are both wrong )
[08:46] <Jim___> thanks two hero response quickly! I don
[08:46] <seb128> if you just want to integrate notification I think you need to use the libmessaging-menu library
[08:47] <Jim___> I do not understand the difference between notification and indicator
[08:47] <ogra_> each icon up in that panel is an indicator
[08:48] <ogra_> the icon with the envelope is the notification indicator ... the one with the speaker is the sound indicator etc
[08:48] <seb128> each "menu" is an indicator, so it depends if you want to add a new menu, or integrate to an existing one
[08:48] <Jim___> I just want something which can tell the user some application's information
[08:49] <Jim___> and the user also can press and enter the application
[08:49] <ogra_> right, then you want to send a notification that shows up in the notification indicator (and generates a popup message at the top of the screen) i think
[08:50] <ogra_> https://developer.ubuntu.com/en/apps/platform/guides/push-notifications-client-guide/
[08:52] <Jim___> I have read the push notifications client guide and server, but i can not run my application which appear running error.so I need a runable example
[09:08] <JamesTait> Good morning all; happy Friday, and happy Siblings Day! :-D
[09:27] <sturmflut-work> bzoltan: ping
[09:28] <bzoltan> sturmflut-work: pong
[09:30] <sturmflut-work> bzoltan: About the email from rpadovani regarding problems with qmake, I would like to note that at least on my development environment here (15.04 desktop with ubuntu-sdk 1.217) if I attach a 14.10 phone and click on "Autocreate kit" in the SDK the SDK will default to a 15.04 chroot.
[09:31] <sturmflut-work> bzoltan: So if you don't explicitely change the default, IMO you always end up with a 15.04 chroot for a 14.10 device
[09:31] <bzoltan> sturmflut-work: That is true
[09:32] <sturmflut-work> bzoltan: This might have contributed to the problem you mentioned
[09:32] <bzoltan> sturmflut-work: very much possible indeed.
[09:36] <sturmflut-work> bzoltan: Would it be possible to have the SDK detect the correct version for the selected device/emulator? I would have fallen into the "trap" myself if I hadn't decided to explicitely base all my apps on 14.10.
[09:39] <bzoltan> sturmflut-work: Yes, now it is possible. This API was not availble when this kit auto assignement was implemented. I take it up now.
[09:55] <brunch875> Jamestait: I've just congratuladed my sibling!
[09:55] <JamesTait> brunch875, "Congratulations on having such an awesome sibling"? ;)
[09:56] <brunch875> :D
[10:18] <jgdx> oSoMoN, hi, wouldn't 1442514 be a duplicate of 1252899?
[10:19] <oSoMoN> jgdx, it is indeed, I was pretty sure this bug existed, but my search-fu couldn’t find it
[10:19] <jgdx> beuno, is there anything you need for that branch to land? (fixing 1252899)
[10:21] <oSoMoN> jgdx, beuno: can the status of the bug be updated? it’s not fixed yet
[10:21] <oSoMoN> (but I’m not allowed to change the status myself)
[10:21] <jgdx> me neither
[10:22] <jgdx> oSoMoN, have you/anyone filed a bug against uitk/webbrowser-app regarding difficulty pressing the (X) in the address bar field, when the url is really long?
[10:23] <jgdx> here my search fu fails me
[10:23] <oSoMoN> jgdx, not that I know of, feel free to file one (against uitk)
[10:23] <jgdx> kk
[10:55] <sturmflut-work> bzoltan: Great!
[11:00] <sturmflut-work> What the... I just started Firefox 37.0 on Ubuntu 15.04 and the language of the default Ubuntu "about:startpage" seems to change at random
[11:00] <sturmflut-work> So far I got Turkish, Danish and English
[11:00] * sturmflut-work adds this to the list of things to debug
[11:07] <beuno> jgdx, oSoMoN, hi!
[11:07] <beuno> what bug?
[11:07] <jgdx> beuno, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-start-page/+bug/1252899
[11:08] <beuno> jgdx, I'll check, that revision should be deployed
[11:17] <jgdx> ty
[11:20] <sturmflut-work> Flash sale!
[11:21] <popey> nope
[11:21] <popey> non-flash sale
[11:21] <sturmflut-work> Regular availability?
[11:22] <popey> https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10153144267333592
[11:23] <sturmflut-work> Oh wow
[11:29] <sturmflut-work> how exactly does ubuntu-app-usage gather its data? Because it says "unity8-dash 206727 seconds", which would be ~144 days, and I am quite sure my bq wasn't shipped in november
[11:30] <sturmflut-work> Or 472 seconds for an app that I installed, but never started once
[11:34] <Se7> morning
[11:35] <Mirv> beuno: hi, could you reopen https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-start-page/+bug/1252899 which is falsely marked as Released, and maybe work on getting https://code.launchpad.net/~jonas-drange/ubuntu-start-page/1252899-mobile-friendly/+merge/197038 to use?
[11:35] <Mirv> beuno: also, could you add for example ubuntu-core-dev to https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-start-page/+members
[11:36] <Mirv> beuno: because otherwise no-one else can modify bugs etc
[11:36] <Mirv> oSoMoN: ^
[11:53] <brendand> sturmflut-work, 60*60*24 = 86400. 206727/86400 = 2.3 days
[11:54] * brendand didn't know about ubuntu-app-usage
[11:54] <sturmflut-work> brendand: ...
[11:54] * sturmflut-work goes to stand in the corner
[11:54] <brendand> sturmflut-work, did you do 60*24 :)
[11:55] <sturmflut-work> brendand: I don't want to talk about it, oh the embarrassment
[11:55] <brendand> sturmflut-work, what's the app you installed but never started?
[11:56] <sturmflut-work> brendand: com.ubuntu.developer.majster-pl.google-plus-app_google-plus-app , I installed both G+ apps in the store but never got around to start this one.
[11:57] <brendand> sturmflut-work, you're sure no-one else used your device?
[12:00] <sturmflut-work> brendand: Well, I always suspected that bq employed a cave full of gnomes to flash Ubuntu on all those phones, but popey silenced me
[12:00] <sturmflut-work> brendand: So yes, the gnomes probably used the phone while I was sleeping
[12:00] <popey> hah
[12:01] <brendand> sturmflut-work, hey you never know
[12:01] <brendand> there could be gnomes
[12:02] <sturmflut-work> brendand: I got the phone on monday night, so I would have had to use unity8-dash 24/7 to get the usage to 2.3 days.
[12:03] <ogra_> what ? was the secret that the release took so long because we manually tested all phones at home now revelaed ?
[12:03] <sturmflut-work> ogra_: You can't stop the truth, it will always prevail at some point
[12:04] <ogra_> damn !
[12:05] * popey submits to /r/conspiratard
[12:06] <brendand> sturmflut-work, unity8-dash is probably always running in the background
[12:07] <ogra_> but it shouldnt be started by u-a-l, should it ?
[12:07] <ogra_> i think the tool only collects focus events from u-a-l
[12:07] <ogra_> (and measures the time between them)
[12:14] <soc> hi
[12:15] <soc> does anyone have experience developing/deploying native, but non-qt applications?
[12:15] <soc> wondering if it's possible to write Ubuntu phone apps in Scala
[12:16] <popey> thats a word that's never been said in this channel!
[12:16] <soc> (which compiles either to Java class files or JavaScript)
[12:16] <popey> Sorry, we don't have prizes.
[12:16] <soc> popey: mhh?
[12:16] <popey> just kidding
[12:16] <popey> Well, it's _possible_ to run Java apps on the phone
[12:16] <soc> don't understand
[12:16] <soc> ah ok
[12:16] <popey> we have one in the store, but it's quite a challenge
[12:17] <soc> how does it work?
[12:17] <soc> does it ship with the complete runtime packaged into the app?
[12:17] <popey> qml -> C++ plugin -> JRE -> classes
[12:17] <popey> yes
[12:17] <soc> ouch, ok
[12:17] <popey> we don't ship a jre on the device
[12:17] <soc> the Scala -> JavaScript route should be less painful (or something like Avian)
[12:18] <soc> ok, so are there WebIDL files available for the ubuntu phone api?
[12:18] <popey> uh, I don't know what webidl is, sorry.
[12:19] <soc> these are the files which describe how the API looks like
[12:19] <ogra_> dbarth_, ^^^
[12:19] <soc> I extracted some APIs for web stuff from the MDN recently, and it was extremely painful compared to just using the WebIDLs
[12:20] <soc> (MDN documentation == more often wrong than not)
[12:20] <dbarth_> ogra_: for? scala?
[12:20] <ogra_> dbarth_, well, i dont know what WebIDL is either :)
[12:21] <dbarth_> hey
[12:21] <dbarth_> but yeah, why not, i have a good friend of mine who keeps telling me about it
[12:21] <soc> it's basically how JavaScript APIs are defined, because JavaScript itself lacks the ability to specify types
[12:21] <dbarth_> (scala)
[12:21] <dbarth_> soc: yup
[12:21] <dbarth_> that's a neat idea
[12:21] <soc> what?
[12:22] <dbarth_> using weidl to formalize apis, and get scala support for free i guess, right?
[12:22] <soc> more or less
[12:22] <soc> the (completely ridiculous) thing is that there is no place where you have WebIDL and API documentation combined
[12:23] <soc> it's completely unbelievable that "the language of the web" has no machine-readable definition on the web
[12:23] <soc> you basically have to take the WebIDL files, and go hunting for documentation, then combine them together
[12:24] <dbarth_> ah
[12:24] <soc> and in MDN's case, there is such a large mismatch between those two that it's hard to understand how JavaScript people get anything done
[12:24] <dbarth_> but well ok, thanks for the pointer; i'll take a look
[12:24] <dbarth_> alex_abreu: ^^ as well
[12:24] <soc> MDN is basically a wiki, so it's usually completely out of sync with the WebIDL
[12:25] <alex_abreu> scala support for free?
[12:25] <soc> alex_abreu: in which sense?
[12:25] <alex_abreu> no idea I caught that from above
[12:25] <alex_abreu> which makes no sense
[12:25] <alex_abreu> but I guess the discussion is about webidl gen of docs no?
[12:25] <soc> yeah, sure, you can write Scala, compile it to JavaScript and ship it as an app on Ubuntu
[12:26] <alex_abreu> yeah but that's not what the conversion is about is it?
[12:26] <soc> but if you want to have decent IDE support/documentation instead of "dynamic" typing you need to write a facade to tell the compiler how the API looks like
[12:27] <alex_abreu> there are no idl files for that, although we initially started by having partial support for that
[12:27] <alex_abreu> (front endt API auto gen from idl like def + doc
[12:28] <soc> alex_abreu: with that you would be better than 99% of the web apis
[12:28] <soc> I added the Audio APIs recently, and I spent hours combining this: https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Web/API/Web_Audio_API with this http://mxr.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/source/dom/webidl/
[12:29] <soc> the end result is more correct than what Mozilla has, but having to do this by hand is ridiculous: https://github.com/scala-js/scala-js-dom/commit/4f370ee8c77c2032f4e4de287e1dadcb0f333d8e
[12:29] <soc> it's 1300 lines of code which should have never been written manually
[12:30] <nhaines> Hey, congratulations because it looks like the bq Aquaris E4.5 Ubuntu Edition is generally available now! :D http://store.bq.com/en/ubuntu-edition-e-4-5
[12:30] <nhaines> No pressure on OTA-3 or anything. :P
[12:31] <soc> I don't understand why there isn't even something like a web service, where you send e. g. "AudioNode#context" and get all the api documentation
[12:31] <nhaines> Aww, I was scooped.
[12:31] <soc> that way, the documentation couldn't become out of date, like when manually copy-pasting it
[12:31] <soc> nhaines: yes, that's why I'm asking
[12:32] <soc> still looking for a platform where I can write apps without this "sure you can write apps, if you take a huge productivity hit by using $terrible language" meme
[12:32] <nhaines> TIL that C++ is terrible.
[12:33] <soc> yes, 99% of those writing C++ are utterly unqualified for it, including me
[12:33] <ogra_> nhaines, wow, only today ?
[12:33] <nhaines> ogra_: as of an hour or two ago. :)
[12:33] <ogra_> heh
[12:34] <soc> (rough estimate)
[12:34] <nhaines> ogra_: if I must hack I do it in python. :)
[12:36] <ogra_> well, i obey to the platform :)
[12:36] <ogra_> but if i can freely choose i pick shell :)
[12:37] <ogra_> (busybox and a kernel are enough OS !)
[12:39] <mcphail> For a hobby-level C programmer like me, the Qt sub/superset of C++ seems fairly benign. I suppose the skill is in keeping away from tiger country
[12:44] <Silex> For some radical-fondamentalist-fanatic c++ people Qt is "wrong" and they like to make sure you hear it. For most people Qt is nice.
[12:45] <beuno> Mirv, done
[12:47] <soc> so, if there are any ubuntu devs listening: if you provide a way to easily retrieve API and documentation, I would be happy to write the bindings for the ubuntu phone API for scala
[12:48] <soc> but I can't take another round of this MDN/WebAPI mess
[12:50] <soc> (note that such an API would benefit all compile-to-JS languages, not only Scala)
[13:11] <cwayne_> soc, https://developer.ubuntu.com/api/devel/ubuntu-14.10/cplusplus/unity-scopes/
[13:12] <cwayne_> like that? :)
[13:12] <Mirv> beuno: thanks!
[13:34] <ewooy> Does anybody have any good resources for developing for Ubuntu Phone? Particulary background services? Is it possible to build media player (that runs in a BG) with current state of ubuntu phone?
[13:36] <davmor2> ewooy: there is one already :)
[13:36] <ewooy> davmor2: Yeah I believe that there is a core app with this functionality. But can I develop one on my own?
[13:36] <davmor2> ewooy: but developer.ubuntu.com has all the available apis and stuff
[13:39] <popey> ewooy: yes, you could.
[13:40] <ewooy> popey: Cool maybe I'll order one phone then :D
[13:40] <popey> ewooy: well, you could build a frontend app
[13:40] <popey> which uses media-hub
[13:40] <popey> maybe I misunderstood the question
[13:40] <ewooy> popey: Thanks, gotta google what is media-hub
[13:40] <ewooy> popey: Just imagine that I am building next spotify and I have access to some api, I want to build music player app
[13:41] <popey> right, we have a problem there.
[13:41] <popey> there is a spotify app in the store, but we don't cater well for that use case
[13:41] <popey> as in, 3rd party plugins doing the audio decoding
[13:41] * popey looks at Elleo
[13:41] * Elleo looks guilty
[13:42] <popey> wish we could fix that :(
[13:42] <Elleo> yeah :/
[13:43] * popey glares at tvoss
[13:44] <Elleo> heh, maybe I should add a "blame tvoss" disclaimer to cutespotify's startup in the hopes that gets things fixed quicker ;)
[13:45] <popey> yes!
[13:47] <Elleo> ewooy: basically if you have normal audio files you can pass them to media-hub and it'll play them in the background for you
[13:47] <Elleo> ewooy: but if you do something funny like libspotify does (just providing raw audio packets in real time) you'll hit problems at the moment
[13:48] <ewooy> Elleo: Basically I have some mp3/mp4 files on my server which I want to play through media-hub if possible. I cannot find any docs about media-hub. Any tips?
[13:49] <davmor2> Elleo: can't you cache the stream and play the cache in media-hub or are you not allowed to do that?
[13:49] <Elleo> davmor2: that's against the ToS
[13:49] <davmor2> Elleo: I thought that might be the issue but wasn't sure
[13:49] <Elleo> davmor2: plus you only get the stream in real time, so you'd have to wait 3 minutes, to then be able to play 3 minutes of sound in media hub
[13:50] <Elleo> davmor2: so you can't really cache anything in advance if you wanted to
[13:50] <Elleo> ewooy: media-hub integrates transparently with QtMultimedia so if you play something through a QML Audio element or QML MediaPlayer element it'll automatically get sent to media-hub and will play happily in the background
[13:51] <Elleo> ewooy: the only caveat to that is that media-hub doesn't yet support playlists (but as I understand it that's coming pretty soon)
[13:51] <Elleo> ewooy: and it can stream over HTTP without any issues
[13:51] <ewooy> Elleo: Oh its easy like that. Damn, what about background services? I can dynamicly fetch new track after one has stopped playing... I guess I will wait until it gets more mature
[13:52] <Elleo> ewooy: no custom background services at all currently; you'd have to wait for playlist support and then generate your desired playlist in advance
[13:53] <ewooy> Elleo: Damn, thanks for your help!
[13:53] <Elleo> ewooy: no worries :)
[14:07] <sturmflut-work> soc: If you want to keep it simple and the Scala -> JavaScript path works for you, then go for JavaScript. If it doesn't work you can either include a Java VM with our app (which will make the package quite large) or use gcj, but in both cases the UI libraries most likely do not support Mir, so you have to fix that problem as well.
[14:14] <kenvandine> mzanetti, about adjusting the oom score (bug 1421241)
[14:14] <kenvandine> mzanetti, do you know if there's an api for that?
[14:15] <mzanetti> kenvandine, we're discussing it this very moment in a unity hangout
[14:15] <mzanetti> kenvandine, our point of view is: can we know that an app is waiting on content hub?
[14:15] <kenvandine> mzanetti, cool... i'd love to hear the plans :)
[14:16] <mzanetti> kenvandine, and so far the answer seems: contenthub needs to work with trusted sessions
[14:16] <kenvandine> hmmm
[14:16] <kenvandine> ha... that's the plan
[14:16] <ogra_> mzanetti, and how would that help ?
[14:16] <kenvandine> i have a branch, but waiting for some UAL work
[14:16] <ogra_> if the memory is gone it is gone
[14:16] <kenvandine> you'll know the app is opened in a trust session
[14:16] <mzanetti> ogra_, the two apps are linked together in qtmir
[14:17] <mzanetti> ogra_, instead of just being two completely separate apps
[14:17] <kenvandine> mzanetti, it will be, once tedg finishes some UAL work which he has planned for his next sprint
[14:17] <ogra_> well, i guess to prevent you from having one of them die during the transfer
[14:18] <mzanetti> kenvandine, we just created a trello card to investigate how to a) get a quick fix/hack to improve the situation and b) get the proper solution with trusted sessions in place
[14:18] <kenvandine> mzanetti, i should be finishing the trust session implementation the sprint after tedg lands the UAL work
[14:18] <kenvandine> so pretty soon
[14:18] <kenvandine> bfiller, ^^
[14:18] <mzanetti> greyback, saviq ^
[14:19] <mzanetti> Saviq, even
[14:19] <kenvandine> i have a working trust session implementation now
[14:19] <Saviq> worked anyway
[14:19] <kenvandine> we're just not all that happy with it atm, but worked with tedg to come up with a nice solution
[14:19] <kenvandine> and he has a card to work on that in his coming sprint
[14:27] <sturmflut-work> Oh noes, I crashed the bq :/ hopefully the logs are still there
[14:34] * sturmflut-work goes home
[14:35] <ogra_> morphis, YAY !
[14:42] <mardy> jdstrand: do you have an opinion on bug 1437393?
[14:43] <Theodin> Does anyone know where the home scope has its translations? I already looked at "unity-scope-home" but couldnt find what I was looking for.
[14:43] <davidcalle> Theodin, for phone or desktop?
[14:44] <Theodin> phone/ubuntu touch
[14:44] <Theodin> I discovered some translation bugs on my Aquaris
[14:44] <ogra_> there is no home scope on the phone
[14:44] <ogra_> do you mean the today scope ?
[14:44] <davidcalle> Theodin, so yeah, that's not unity-scope-home
[14:44] <Theodin> yes
[14:44] <Theodin> but the today scope doesnt have any translations: https://translations.launchpad.net/today-scope
[14:45] <jdstrand> mardy: from a security standpoint, no, I don't care. however, ted's points were valid
[14:49] <ted> mardy, This still needs tests before it could land, but this is what I was thinking: https://code.launchpad.net/~ted/ubuntu-app-launch/libual-desktop-file/+merge/255841
[14:50] <ted> mardy, (API at bottom of diff)
[14:51] <mardy> ted: mmm... but would you modify GDesktopAppInfo to use this API internally, too?
[14:52] <ted> mardy, Wasn't thinking so, was thinking that you could call g_desktop_app_info_from_file()
[14:53] <mardy> ted: if -- as I think I understood -- you are not objecting to creating a symlink of the .desktop files into ~/.local/share/applications/, then we might not even need new APIs
[14:54] <ted> mardy, We can't create a symlink there because the assumptions of paths changes with those directory changes.
[14:54] <ted> mardy, i.e. Icon=foo.png
[14:57] <mardy> ted: mmm... if they are relative paths, can't we assume that they are relative to the current directory?
[14:57] <ted> mardy, Only in the case of being the application which is started in its install directory. Most of people aren't in that CWD.
[14:57] <mardy> ted: I understand that GDesktopAppInfo might not work that way, but maybe we could have a small patch to it, which checks if APP_ID is defined in the environment and, if so, uses the current dir as base
[14:58] <ted> mardy, That wouldn't work if you changed directories, which applications can do, especially if they are started by a shell wrapper.
[14:59] <ted> mardy, But yeah, the libual solution would be more for OA than for individual apps. I think teh app itself should just know about its desktop file.
[14:59] <ted> mardy, Apps can't read the click database.
[15:04] <morphis> ogra_: ?
[15:04] <ogra_> morphis, just heard the news :)
[15:08] <Theodin> Ill contact the german translation team about my issue. Maybe some of them can help me.
[15:39] <dobey> cwayne: hey, i don't know if it's just untappd having this problem, but i was trying to sign in again last night, and i couldn't complete the oauth because ubuntu.com got displayed in the web view rather than having the token picked off :-/
[15:39] <dobey> mardy: ^^ do you know about that?
[15:40] <cwayne> dobey, vivd or rtm?
[15:40] <dobey> cwayne: i'm on rtm-proposed channel on my nexus5
[15:41] <cwayne> dobey, thanks, will take a look
[15:42] <dobey> hmm, i see there's a new image ready. i'll try on there again
[17:13] <studio_> hi
[17:15] <popey> hi
[17:18] <studio_> so, i can confirm, that Sandisk 64GB (SDSDQUIN-O64G-G4) is working in the bq Aquaris E4.5 !
[17:18] <ogra_> bah, not a nice end of the week :(
[17:18] <popey> good news!
[17:18] <popey> yeah
[17:19] <popey> ooh, thats the sd card I have on order, excellent
[17:19] <studio_> :)
[17:19] <ogra_> i managed to not touch my bq for 6 days ... to still have 43% ... and then i hit a vibrator bug where the vibrator doesnt stop anymore and eats your battery in a few minutes completely :(((
[17:19] <ogra_> i really wanted to go the full distance
[17:20] <popey> awww
[17:20] <ogra_> *sniff*
[17:21] <studio_> ogra_, i bought the sd-card for about 20 Euro on Saturn :)
[17:21] <ogra_> nice, yeah, the 64G ones recently dropped quite nicely in price
[17:22] * ogra_ paid something like 70€ about 6 months ago
[17:22] <studio_> on amazon it is about 34 euro i think
[17:24] <studio_> ogra_, i was reading your comment about cifs, how to enable cifs via script?
[17:24] <ogra_> i did make a comment about cifs ?
[17:24] <studio_> yes
[17:24] <ogra_> must havebeen a few days ago ... what did i say ? :)
[17:25] * ogra_ had a busy week, i foget more than i keep recently ...
[17:26] <ogra_> studio_, did you get your module built in the end ?
[17:26] <studio_> damn, it wasn't you, it was dobey ...
[17:27] <studio_> http://askubuntu.com/questions/602754/is-it-possible-to-mount-samba-shares-with-ubuntu-touch-bq-aquaris-4-5
[17:28] <studio_> dobey, how to use cifs?
[17:30] <ogra_> studio_, you need the kernel module as very first thing ... i dont think there is any way to do cifs in userspace only
[17:30] <popey> There will be soon.
[17:30] <popey> We're adding samba support to the file manager.
[17:30] <ogra_> will there ?
[17:30] <ogra_> ah
[17:30] <studio_> cool!!!
[17:30] <studio_> :)
[17:30] <ogra_> popey, but that will also need kernel support, no ?
[17:31] <ogra_> or is there any fuse-cifs thingie i dont know about (though that would need fuse support in kernel)
[17:31] <popey> good question
[17:31] <ogra_> not a biggie, we can indeed enable it ... but it currently isnt
[17:32] <popey> yeah, we're not close to landing it
[17:32] <popey> well, the code is done, it needs reviewing
[17:32] <popey> which is taking a while with limited developers
[17:32] <ogra_> use bright developers then :P not the limited ones
[17:33] <popey> haha
[17:34] <studio_> popey, is nfsd also supported in the new code?
[17:35] <popey> not yet.
[17:35] <ogra_> tht might also get a bit more ticky with all the different kernel versions
[17:36] <dobey> studio_: that question is about cifs and i answered it
[17:36] <ogra_> nfs userspace often very closely depends on the kernel part
[17:38] <studio_> dobey, i am using in the moment android, same kernel, and it also can't handle cifs under kodi. therefore i asked.
[17:39] <ogra_> studio_, thats only the same kernel source (and not even that since we add a lot of patches) ...
[17:39] <ogra_> you cant really compare them ... but yeah,. obviously android doesnt enable cifs in the config either
[17:39] <dobey> also this isn't #android
[17:40] * ogra_ checks and notes that dobey is right ...
[17:40] <ogra_> :)
[17:40] <studio_> ogra_, i can't compare? is't the kernel compatible to both operation systems?
[17:40] <ogra_> no
[17:41] <studio_> sure?
[17:41] <ogra_> yes
[17:41] <ogra_> ubuntu wuldnt boot with tez binary from android
[17:41] <studio_> ok, i will try
[17:41] <ogra_> *the
[17:41] <dobey> lol
[17:41] * dobey wonders how many times that must be explained :-/
[17:43] <studio_> is that: https://developer.ubuntu.com/static/devportal_uploaded/136981fa-6287-49d3-9874-06f40b2e4eb7-cms_page_media/380/ubuntu_touch_architecture.png outdated?
[17:44] <dobey> not really, but i don't see what it has to do with the question at hand
[17:45] <studio_> isn't it using the same kernel and shared libraries? sorry for my naive questions ...
[17:46] <dobey> no, as already explained it is a different build of the kernel
[17:48] <studio_> ok, but, sorry, i do not understand your answer on "http://askubuntu.com/questions/602754/is-it-possible-to-mount-samba-shares-with-ubuntu-touch-bq-aquaris-4-5"
[17:48] <On3g> Am on a trip, my bq has 3g, trying to get my ubuntu laptop online. Is there a ssh command than can share the connection over sub?
[17:49] <ogra_> studio_, the container is build in ubuntu. using an ubuntu toolchain, with ubuntu patches applied ...
[17:49] <ogra_> studio_, the binaries we use are quite different from the android ones
[17:49] <dobey> studio_: what's not to understand? cifs is not enabled in the kernel
[17:50] <studio_> dobey, your answer was: "It would be possible to build an app to browse such shares using the CIFS protocol entirely in user space ..."
[17:50] <studio_> but i do not understand that.
[17:50] <ogra_> On3g, "android-gadget-service enabl rndis" that will make a usb0 interface appear on your PC/laptop
[17:51] <ogra_> *enable
[17:52] <dobey> studio_: CIFS is just a protocol. if you want to implement it, in an application, to browse cifs shares, then you can.
[17:54] <studio_> cifs is enabled in kodi, for exp., but it also can't browse under Android in the Aquaris E4.5.
[17:54] <dobey> i don't understand that. if it can't browse then it's obviously not enabled
[17:56] <studio_> dobey, sorry, i don't understand you. on other android devices kodi is enable to browse cifs or nfs, but not on the bq aquaris e4.5
[17:57] <ogra_> studio_, because on the aquaris the kernel doesnt have cifs enabled
[17:57] <studio_> nor nfs?
[17:57] <dobey> then i guess on those other devices it is enabled in the kernel, and the way kodi works requires it to be enabled in the kernel
[17:57] <ogra_> nor nfs
[17:57] <studio_> who tried "mount -t nfs" on a e4.5?
[17:58] <ogra_> studio_, cat /proc/filesystems | grep nfs
[17:58] <dobey> nobody
[17:58] <dobey> well except you i guess
[17:58] <dobey> and the oner person who asked the question on askubuntu
[17:58] <studio_> ogra_, plz, try to mount nfs
[17:58] <dobey> why would anyone want to do that on a phone anyway
[17:59] <ogra_> studio_, i know there is no nfs support in kernel, i dontneed to try
[17:59] <studio_> dobey, it is not a phone, it is ubuntu
[17:59] <dobey> no, the aquaris e4.5 is a phone
[17:59] <dobey> it's designed as a phone
[17:59] <dobey> it's built as a phone
[18:00] <studio_> no, ask popey
[18:00] <dobey> it has two SIM slots
[18:00] <popey> hmm?
[18:00] <studio_> sim is just an usb-stick
[18:00] <ogra_> heh, no
[18:00] <dobey> lol
[18:00] <ogra_> that would be really bad :)
[18:00] <ogra_> and not allow 8 days battery life for sure
[18:01] <studio_> 3g or 4g is not just an usb-network-add-on for ubuntu?
[18:01] <ogra_> not on phones, no
[18:02] <ogra_> i guess if we just had to support usb 3G modems, awe_ would be a happy man with a lot of spare time
[18:02] <studio_> ok, maybe my fault :(
[18:02] <mandel> Elleo, I have a small question about osk, if I user types on a field and intermediately click on an actions the text property of the field does not have all the data. I remember reading a comment from you in g+ on how to deal with that, do you remember?
[18:02] <dobey> lol, even my laptop has support for an internal SIM card
[18:02] <dobey> well, one of my laptops
[18:05] <popey> mandel: we just fixed that exact issue in reminders :)
[18:05] <mandel> popey, lol
[18:05] <popey> mandel: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/unity-scope-click/+bug/1442750
[18:05] <mandel> popey, is a little annoying, but at least my app has nearly no text in comparison :)
[18:05] <popey> bah, wrong link
[18:05] <popey> mandel: http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~reminders-app-dev/reminders-app/trunk/revision/406
[18:06] <mandel> popey, is that the fix? in cpp? and setting the cursor position?
[18:06] * mandel brain just exploded
[18:08] <popey> did I paste the right thing..?
[18:08] <popey> no
[18:08] <popey> http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~reminders-app-dev/reminders-app/trunk/revision/405
[18:08] <popey> previous rev :)
[18:08] <popey> sorry mandel :)
[18:09] <mandel> popey, hehehe thx :)
[18:13] <davmor2> never trust popey with a paste command ;) it's like a sign that says do not touch he can't help himself ;)
[18:13] <popey> no, I swear paste behaviour has changed in 15.04
[18:14] <popey> it used to be that you click in the browser url bar and it automagically goes into your x paste buffer
[18:14] <popey> now you have to like quad click
[18:14] <davmor2> then he lies about it and blames the tools ;)
[18:14] <popey> also, shut up :)
[18:17] <davmor2> popey: no I agree the behaviour in the browser has changed I highlight a url and middle click and nothing shows up at all sometimes
[18:17] <davmor2> popey: I resort to going back right click copying and then right clicking and pasting
[18:18] <popey> yeah
[18:18] <popey> i use copy/paste CTRL+C/V way more now
[18:18] <davmor2> popey: yeah kinda sucks
[18:23] <soc> cwayne: a) isn't that for the desktop b) I didn't try it, but how is it machine queryable/readable?
[18:23] <dobey> what browser?
[18:23] <dobey> because it hasn't changed in firefox :)
[18:23] <popey> chrome.
[18:24] <dobey> it's been triple-click forever, just like pretty much every other text entry/label in gtk+
[18:24] <dobey> ah, so it's all google's fault :)
[18:26] <davmor2> dobey: chromium too :)
[18:28] <davmor2> dobey: firefox great as it is was grinding my system into the ground. chromium seems to hog memory where as firefox caned cpu :)
[18:31] <dobey> davmor2: i get the same with both if i leave them open forever
[18:31] <dobey> davmor2: javascript kills them, especially over time :-/
[18:31] <On3g> Got rndis0 interface on phone, usb0 on laptop. NM on laptop could not autoconnect. So, I tried to setup manually. Give IPs on both, ip_forward was already on on phone. Appears dnsmask not listening on new rndis0 iface.
[18:32] <ogra_> On3g, thats a bq phone ? definitely works here
[18:32] <davmor2> dobey: my machine isn't on forever I turn it off when I leave work :)
[18:32] <dobey> davmor2: i just leave work, when i leave work :)
[18:32] <ogra_> On3g, my laptop network-manager just obtains an IP from the phone
[18:32] <On3g> ogra_ it is bq.
[18:33] <davmor2> dobey: admittedly I'm always at work cause I have a phone with me and find issue cause that's what I do :)
[18:33] <ogra_> On3g, wit the default image, unmodified ?
[18:34] <dobey> davmor2: yeah, i can't exactly just flip a switch and turn a certain part of my brain off either :P
[18:34] <On3g> I upgraded to devel-proposed...
[18:34] <ogra_> ah
[18:34] <dobey> so sometimes the ideas to fix a bug or something will come while i'm at the pub
[18:34] <popey> ditto, i even file bugs remotely for people who are at the pub when I am not
[18:34] <ogra_> yeah, could be broken there ... i havent found the time to test it in devel-proposed yet
[18:34] <popey> like just now
[18:35] <popey> cztab just remotely got me to file https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/unity-scope-click/+bug/1442750
[18:35] <popey> (which I am surprised nobody ever filed before)
[18:37] <davmor2> dobey: only worry when you dream of finding bugs, maybe that's justa qa thing ;)
[18:37] <On3g> ogra_, OK will restart and hope it comes up. Thanks!
[18:39] <SturmFlut> I think I found a new bug in the updater, http://i.imgur.com/UqNwWvT.png
[18:39] <dobey> davmor2: i will seek immediate medical attention when that happens :P
[18:44] <SturmFlut> Which project do I file the bug in the updater UI for? ubuntu-system-image?
[18:45] <kenvandine> SturmFlut, ubuntu-system-settings
[18:51] <SturmFlut> kenvandine: Ah, thanks
[18:54] <kenvandine> np
[18:55] <kenvandine> mandel, a while back i asked about getting your fix-errors and fix-network-errors branches rebased on trunk
[18:55] <kenvandine> mandel, just a little nudge, it'd be nice to get those landed
[18:55] <mandel> kenvandine, agh, and I forgot
[18:55] <mandel> ***
[18:56] <mandel> kenvandine, that was a swear, I'll do it over the weekend, you will have an mr on monday, I promise
[18:56] <kenvandine> :)
[18:56] <kenvandine> mandel, it looks like good fixes in those :)
[18:58] <mandel> kenvandine, yes, I jut having been in 1000 places and lost track
[18:58] <davmor2> kenvandine: snapshot this page quick and hold mandel to it ;)
[18:58] <mandel> kenvandine, will you be in the sprint in austin
[18:58] <mandel> davmor2, will be done ;)
[18:59] <mandel> kenvandine, would be nice to get that system update page re-done during that week
[18:59] <kenvandine> i will be
[18:59] <kenvandine> it would be great to make progress on that
[19:00] <kenvandine> i'm not sure yet what i'll be focused on though
[19:00] <kenvandine> mandel, what i really want is an update service that we use and share with the click scope :)
[19:00] <kenvandine> then kill all that horrendous code
[19:01] <mandel> kenvandine, I think we can talk to the needed people and plan it for that week
[19:01] <kenvandine> great!
[19:01] <mandel> kenvandine, we should have enough people to do it
[19:01] <mandel> kenvandine, lets talk with the managers just to be sure, but would be ideal to improve all that
[19:02] <kenvandine> back in DC i heard there was plans for such a service
[19:02] <kenvandine> but not being worked on yet
[19:02] <kenvandine> consolidate the update code and click install/uninstall in one place
[19:02] <kenvandine> with a proper API
[19:05] <popey> SturmFlut: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Avengers is handy for bug links fwiw
[19:06] <mandel> kenvandine, we have toooooo many things
[19:07] <mandel> kenvandine, step by step, if no one is taking ownershio and is a PITA for us, lets do it
[19:08] <davmor2> mandel: no we don't, we have way way way toooooooo many things
[19:08] <mandel> lol
[19:09] <mandel> davmor2, one of this years we should see how many lines of code each canonical developer puts in production per year
[19:09] <mandel> davmor2, people would be scared
[19:15] <brunch875> Good morning everyone!
[19:24] <kenvandine> seb128, about that symbolic-icon branch, do we want to approve it?
[19:34] <erdoxtor> hi guys
[19:34] <erdoxtor> i have a ques 5tion abount ubuntu touch and nexus
[19:35] <erdoxtor> nexus 5
[19:36] <erdoxtor> i saw that it s possible to install it on a nexus 5. do it works great? i mean can i use it every day or it is still in developping?
[19:39] <dobey> i have been using it every day for almost a year on a nexus 5
[19:40] <erdoxtor> dobey
[19:40] <erdoxtor> it is stable and do it supoport all apps?
[19:41] <dobey> what do you mean 'all' apps?
[19:41] <dobey> the stable channel is pretty stable, but the n5 is not an officially supported device, so many features do not work (like bluetooth and gps)
[19:41] <erdoxtor> whatsapp mail and that kind of stuff
[19:42] <dobey> no, whatsapp has not produced a client application for ubuntu yet
[19:42] <dobey> telegram is available though
[19:42] <erdoxtor> ok...pitty... tired to use anroid :-)
[19:42] <dobey> there's a mail app in the store titled dekko
[19:42] <erdoxtor> thanks
[20:06] <brunch875> bohooo GPS doesn't work
[20:07] <erdoxtor> pitty
[20:07] <brunch875> When is the next update hitting us? Will it fix GPS?
[20:17] <Elleo> mandel: you can manually call Qt.inputMethod.commit() (happens automatically on focus change too)
[20:17] <dobey> brunch875: soon
[20:18] <dobey> brunch875: i think it has some fixes related to gps yes
[20:18] <brunch875> :D
[20:18] <brunch875> soon©
[20:18] <brunch875> hurray
[20:18] <Se7> ^^^^^
[20:18] <Se7> :P
[20:30] <towlieban> hi
[20:30] <towlieban> is RTM 14.09 the latest stable version of Ubuntu Touch ?
[20:34] <towlieban> anyone here
[20:35] <k1l_> some are, but most seem to be asleep
[20:36] <towlieban> so is 14.09 RTM the latest stable
[20:36] <towlieban> I've tried Ubuntu Touch a few times and even though it was nice it was from from complete
[20:38] <k1l_> i dont know what the latest stable is
[20:41] <dobey> yes it is the latest stable
[20:41] <dobey> the "stable" channel is the latest stable :)
[20:42] <dobey> the first rule of software, is software is never complete
[20:42] <dobey> well, when it becomes turing complete, then maybe; but for now, not so much
[21:01] <Jack_> Hi
[22:08] <folf> Hi, does anyone have insight into what to so if contact and calendar sync is not working with a google account?
[22:09] <folf> s/so/do
[22:09] <jgdx> folf, have you allowed it?
[22:10] <jgdx> folf, settings -> accounts -> gmail -> calendar YES, contacts YES
[22:10] <jgdx> s/gmail/google
[22:32] <folf> jgdx, yes I just checked
[22:33] <mcphail> my google calendar has stopped syncing as well
[22:39] <mcphail> On attempting a sync I'm getting http://paste.ubuntu.com/10795392/
[22:40] <mcphail> It was working until a few days ago
[22:59] <surgemcgee_> It would be great for some pointers on getting touch installed on MX4
[23:02] <surgemcgee_> or is it possible? I got far enough.. I think
[23:46] <adrian47> There should be cm11 base too i think :(
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[07:54] <seb128> hey there
[07:54] <seb128> unsure if that's a mir regression but that seems to have started with the u-s-c rebuild for mir 0.12
[07:54] <seb128> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/unity-system-compositor/+bug/1442505
[07:59] <seb128> same for bug #1442508
[08:54] <alan_g> RAOF: still working? Would be useful to discuss surface modification APIs
[15:58] <alan_g> anyone got time to review this? I hope it isn't contentious - https://code.launchpad.net/~alan-griffiths/mir/some-surface-modification-infrastructure/+merge/255648
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2015-04-10-#ubuntu-ko
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[00:13] <AutoWiZ_znc> 아침이 밝았습니다.
[00:13] <AutoWiZ_znc> 즐겁고 활기찬 금요일 되세요~~ 불금 아자아자
[00:24] <jun__> 안녕하세요~ 즐거운 금요일입니다~
[00:54] <jun__> 저만 즐거운가보네요...ㅎㅎㅎ
[01:20] <AutoWiZ_znc> 준님의 즐거움을 좀 나눠 주세죠 ㅎㅎㅎㅎ
[01:30] <jun__> 음~ 저의 즐거움을 나눠드릴수 있다면.. 나눠 드리죠... ㅎㅎㅎㅎ
[01:30] <jun__> 슬슬 당떨어지실 시간이니.. 초콜릿이라도 뿌려야하나...
[01:52] <jun__> 아.. 모터쇼 무료 이벤트 기간이 끝나서 응모를 할 수 가 없네요;;; 만원이라;;;;
[01:57] <razGon_MINILA> php를 배우는데 html문법도 알아야 겟군요. 대략 짐작은 할수 있겟지만.
[01:58] <jun__> php...html... 많이 들어봤지만.. 실제로 써본적이 없는.....그런 언어네요 ㅎㅎ
[02:12] <DarkCircle> 백엔드만하실거면 html은 조금만 대충 알아도 까이꺼 딱히 ㅠㅠㅠㅠㅠㅠㅠ
[02:13] <DarkCircle> (풀스택으로 곶통받는 닭.)
[02:14] <bluedusk> DarkCircle, 옹
[02:14] <jun__> 옹....ㅎㅎㅎㅎ
[02:14] <DarkCircle> ?ㅅ?/
[02:14] <bluedusk> 저 이직할지도 모름
[02:15] <bluedusk> 그러니 대기업 종사자에게 소고기를 사달라고 하죠
[02:15] <DarkCircle> 그러게요 -ㅅ-
[02:15] <DarkCircle> 이러다가 소고기 이용권 유효기간 지나는거 아니냐는(...)
[02:15] <bluedusk> 이자를 붙여야죠
[02:15] <bluedusk> 소고기 +
[02:15] <bluedusk> 뭘 붙이지
[02:16] <DarkCircle> 소고기 1근 X (이자율)
[02:16] <DarkCircle> (소고기 추가?)
[02:16] <DarkCircle> 아 적군 -ㅅ-
[02:16] <DarkCircle> 소고기 1근 X (이자율) X 인원수
[02:17] <DarkCircle> (좋다 /-ㅂ--/?)
[02:17] <bluedusk> 음? 한근만 먹을거 아니니 일단 소고기는 쏘고
[02:17] <bluedusk> 2차도 쏘고
[02:17] <bluedusk> 그래도 이자 붙으면 3차도 쏘라고
[02:25] <DarkCircle> https://jigjang.wordpress.com/2015/04/08/%EC%8B%A4%EB%A6%AC%EC%BD%98-%EB%B0%B8%EB%A6%AC%EC%97%90%EC%84%9C-%EA%B0%80%EC%9E%A5-%EC%A4%91%EC%9A%94%ED%95%9C-%EB%AC%B8%EC%84%9C/
[02:25] <DarkCircle> ?
[02:26] <DarkCircle> 뭔가 이상한 글이네요
[02:26] <DarkCircle> 휴가와 관련된 사규가 없다고 휴가를 마음대로 쓴다니?
[02:55] <AutoWiZ_znc> 우와~ 써니님 안녕하세요~~ ㅎㅎㅎㅎ
[02:57] <Seony> 안녕하세요 ㅎㅎ
[03:00] <Dracokr> 하이
[03:23] <razGon_MINILA> 맛점하세요
[03:29] <HolyKnight> @minix01: 일베 함부로 욕하지 마라. 너는, 일베가 어떤 곳인지 한 번이라도 고민해 본 적이 있는 사람이었느냐? minix.tistory.com/445
[04:08] <Seony> 혹시 프록시 계정 하나만 좀 얻을 수 있을까요 ㅎㅎ
[04:09] <Seony> 와우 한 번 해볼려고 인벤에 글 올릴려는데, 해외 아이피를 차단했는지 접속이 안되네요
[04:10] <AutoWiZ_znc> 와우 계정 만들어 드리면 되나요? 아니면 프록시 서버를 하나 열어드릴까요?
[04:11] <Seony> 계정은 있어요. 근데 로그인을 인증하는 서버가 응답이 없네요
[04:11] <Seony> 프록시 열어서 계정 하나만 주시면 감사하겠습니다 ㅎㅎ
[04:11] <AutoWiZ_znc> 사설 프록시 잘 안써봐서 어떤게 좋을려나요?
[04:11] <AutoWiZ_znc> 추천좀 굽신굽신
[04:11] <Seony> 그냥 squid 쓰면 되요
[04:11] <Seony> 매뉴얼 하나 드릴까요?
[04:12] <AutoWiZ_znc> 메뉴얼정도는 제가 찾아보겠습니다 ㅎㅎ
[04:22] <AutoWiZ_znc> ㅠㅠ 따로 계정 지정 안하면 시스템 계정은 그냥 접속 가능할까요?
[04:29] <jun__> 점심 먹는다고 명동 갔다왔는데.. 사람 정말 많데요~ 중간중간 벗꽃 핀거 보니 오늘이 꽃놀이 가기 최적기인거 같아요 ㅎㅎㅎ
[04:33] <Seony> 음... 글쎄요 그건 저도 안해봐서 잘 모르겠어요
[04:34] <Seony> 시스템 계정 추가하지 마시고 그냥 프록시용 계정으로 만들어주세요 ㅎㅎ
[04:38] <Dracokr> 저는 내일 식구들 출동해서 꽃놀이 할 예정 ㅎㅎ
[04:48] <jun__> 오늘부터 여의도 공원이 축제 기간이던데... 여의도 가면 진짜 사람 많을꺼 같아요 ㅎㅎㅎ
[04:51] <bluedusk> 저도 있다가 여의도 가야 하는데
[04:51] <bluedusk> 일하러
[04:51] <bluedusk> -_-
[04:51] <bluedusk> 토나오네요
[05:02] <AutoWiZ_znc> 이 제가 멍청한건가
[05:02] <AutoWiZ_znc> 맘이 급해서그런가
[05:02] <AutoWiZ_znc> 뭐이리 세팅이 안되는 ㅠㅠ
[05:03] <Dracokr> 전 현충원 가려고요
[05:03] <Dracokr> 국립묘지
[05:04] <Dracokr> 외할아버지 증손녀 데리고 왔삼~~ 하면서
[05:41] <jun__> 현충원도 꽃놀이 가기 좋죠~
[05:41] <jun__> 저는 오늘 저녁에 경희대를 가려구요...ㅎㅎㅎ
[07:01] <HolyKnight> http://m.huffpost.com/kr/entry/7038562?utm_hp_ref=tw
[07:01] <HolyKnight> 제이슨찡
[07:01] <HolyKnight> ㅎㅇㅇ
[07:01] <jason_> hi~
[07:01] <jason_> oo찡 ! 이라고 부르는 사람이 몇 안되는데?! ㅋ
[07:02] <jason_> 아~ 데모?? 안! 님...반가워요
[07:02] <jason_> 또이름'을 바꿨군요
[07:04] <jason_> 데모닉마안 님
[07:11] <bluedusk> 오오
[08:01] <jun__> 날이 너무 좋아서 팀원들이랑 동대 앞에 마실갔다왔어요~~ ㅎㅎㅎㅎ
[08:02] <jun__> 근데 저만 노는거 같은 느낌이네요;;;;
[08:47] <Seony> 와우 혼자하는데도 생각보다 재밌네요
[08:48] <jun__> 와우를 혼자요..??
[08:48] <Seony> 네 아는 사람이 없어서요..
[08:48] <Seony> 근데 친구 초대 받아서 하면 뭔가 더 좋은게 있는 건가요?
[08:49] <jun__> 와우를 친구초대로라... 글쎄요.. 그렇게 해본적이 없어서..모르겠네요
[08:49] <Seony> 뭐 암튼, 북미 섭에서 혼자 시작했어요
[08:50] <Seony> 좀 많이 늦었겠찌만 ㅎㅎ
[08:50] <jun__> 북미섭....
[08:50] <jun__> 전 북미섭에서 하면 영어가 안되서 살아남기 힘들....겠죠..? ㅎㅎㅎ
[08:50] <Seony> 요즘 한국 와우 유저들이 북미로 많이 옮긴다던데요
[08:51] <Seony> 사람도 많이 떨어져나가고 중국에서 작업장 돌리는 사람들이 많아져서 재미가 없다고.... 근데 북미는 아직도 사람들이 많대요...
[08:51] <jun__> 아하...
[08:51] <jun__> 북미섭이라..
[08:51] <jun__> 오늘 저녁에 깔아서 해볼까요...? ㅎㅎㅎ
[08:52] <jun__> 처음 가입하면 14일 무료 그대로이려나?
[08:52] <Seony> 아마 7일일걸요. 그리고 북미는 과금방식이 달라요
[08:53] <jun__> 아... 한달정액제가 아닌가봐요?
[08:53] <Seony> 그건 맞는데요,
[08:53] <Seony> 한국은 월 2만원이죠?
[08:53] <jun__> 예 19800원이었던걸로 기억해요
[08:53] <Seony> 미국은 월 만원인 대신, 확장팩이 나오면 그걸 구매를 해야되요.
[08:53] <jun__> 으흠..???
[08:54] <jun__> 확장팩을 구매라... 지금 확장팩이 꽤 나온걸로 알고 있는데.. 그걸 다 구매해야한다는 말씀이신가요?
[08:54] <Seony> 서양애들 문화가, 패키지를 구매해야하는 그런게 있다네요...
[08:54] <Seony> 네 ㅎㅎ 그래서, 그걸 다 구매하면 할인을 해주더라구요...
[08:55] <Seony> 다 모아놓은 패키지가 있는데, 꽤 괜찮아요
[08:55] <Seony> 한 번에 렙 90까지 찍어주는 부스터가 나왔나봐요. 그게 포함되어있어요
[08:55] <Seony> 그리고 저번에 나온 확장팩까지 모두 포함해서 현재 $60정도에 팔던데요
[08:55] <jun__> 아하... 그럼 풀 패키지로 구매하면 얼마정도해요..?
[08:56] <Seony> 스타터로 시작해서 업그레이드 버튼 누르면... 잠시만요
[08:56] <Seony> 47.48 나오네요
[08:56] <Seony> 지금 30% 할인 기간이래요
[08:57] <jun__> 거진 50만원 돈이네요..
[08:57] <Seony> 50이 아니라 5만이죠 ㅋ
[08:58] <jun__> 5만원이요??
[08:58] <Seony> 네 $47이면, 대충 5만원쯤 하잖아요
[08:58] <jun__> 4달만 즐겨도 한국보다 싼거 아닌가요..?
[08:58] <jun__> 아 30프로 할인들어갔으니...
[08:59] <Seony> 저게 아마 한달 요금만 포함된걸걸요
[09:00] <jun__> 처음에 5만원 들여서 풀 패키지 사고.. 다음달부터는 한달에 만원꼴이면... 오래하면 오래할수록 경제적인거 아닌가요..???
[09:00] <Seony> 글쵸.
[09:00] <Seony> 어떻게보면 한국보단 싼거죠
[09:01] <jun__> 음~ 구미가확땡기긴하네요 ㅎㅎㅎ
[09:01] <Seony> 저는 티콘 서버에서 얼라 선택해서 하고잇어요
[09:02] <Seony> 풀패키지 구매하면 렙90 올려주는 부스터도 준다는데,
[09:02] <Seony> 저는 와우가 처음이라서 스토리 궁금해서 그냥 하는 중입니다
[09:02] <jun__> ㅎㅎㅎㅎㅎ
[09:02] <jun__> 저는 이번패키지만 빼면 어느정도 했었던 지라..
[09:03] <jun__> 그래도 스킬 사용 숙련같은걸 생각하면 1부터 쭉 키워보는것도 나쁘진 않을꺼 같네요
[09:04] <Seony> 렙 60에 부스트 쓰면 전문기술 풀업 시켜준다네요
[09:05] <jun__> 전문기술 풀업??? 그건 구미가 확 땡기겠는데요? ㅎㅎㅎ
[09:05] <jun__> 렙업은 주구장창 할 수 있지만.. 전문기술에서 노가다하다가 포기한적이 많아서;;;
[09:06] <Seony> 오 그렇군요..
[09:06] <jun__> 종족이랑 직업은 뭘로 선택하셨어요?
[09:07] <Seony> 엔하위키에서 공부 열심히 했어요 ㅎㅎ
[09:07] <Seony> 사냥꾼 선택했씁니다
[09:07] <Seony> 나엘이요
[09:08] <Seony> 그게 초보자들이 하기 좋다고 하더라구요
[09:08] <jun__> 원거리에서 무빙없이 스킬만 쭉써도 되서 편한편이죠
[09:09] <jun__> 펫이 탱커 역활을 해주니 편하기도 하구요
[09:10] <Seony> 네. 일단 저는 처음이니 쉬운걸로 해봤어요
[09:10] <Seony> 아직까진 할만한데, 아직 모르는게 많아서 그냥 천천히 하고있어요
[09:13] <jun__> 와우가 스토리랑 던전을 타 게임보다 월등하게 잘 구현해놔서
[09:13] <jun__> 혼자서해도 단체로 해도 재밌게 즐기실수 있으실꺼예요
[09:14] <Seony> 그렇군요...
[09:14] <Seony> 그래도 단체로 하는게 와우의 최대 묘미겠죠 ㅎㅎ
[09:15] <jun__> 40인 레이드 뛰면... 시끌시끌하죠;;;
[09:15] <Seony> 북미는 아직도 서버가 200개가 넘는다고 들었어요
[09:16] <Seony> 여전히 사람이 많나봐요
[09:16] <jun__> 아..정말 크구나
[09:16] <jun__> 한국에서 북미섭을 막았다는 이야기 많았었는데... 음~
[09:16] <jun__> 오늘 저녁에 시도해봐야겠네요
[09:16] <Seony> 같이 해요 ㅎㅎ
[09:17] <Seony> 저는 Tichondrius에 있씁니다
[09:17] <jun__> 오늘 저녁에 시도해보고 안되면 고수님들께 자문을 구해야겠네요
[09:17] <Seony> jun__: http://rigvedawiki.net/r1/wiki.php/%EC%9B%94%EB%93%9C%20%EC%98%A4%EB%B8%8C%20%EC%9B%8C%ED%81%AC%EB%9E%98%ED%94%84%ED%8A%B8/%EC%84%9C%EB%B2%84%20%EB%AA%A9%EB%A1%9D#s-4
[09:20] <jun__> 이번주말내로 시도하고... 귓말 드리겠습니다..ㅎㅎㅎ
[09:20] <Seony> 넵 ㅎㅎ
[09:20] <jun__> 전 이만 퇴근할께요~
[09:20] <Seony> 들어가세요
[09:20] <jun__> 오늘은 불금이라 선약이 있어서..
[09:20] <jun__> 다들 즐거운 금요일 되세요~~~
[11:32] <HolyKnight> jason_: 네. 본좌가 데모닉마안임미다.
[11:32] <jason_> i C, 반가워요. ㅎ
[11:37] <HolyKnight> ㅎㅇㅇ
[11:53] <AutoWiZ_znc> 안녕하세요
[12:35] <razgon_MBP> 안녕하세요?
[12:35] <razgon_MBP> 파워가 않좋아지면 하드디스크나 비디오카드가 잘 작동 안하겠죠?
[13:38] <AutoWiZ_znc> 그럴 수 있습니다. 하드가 다운됐다가 다시 도는경우도 생길 수 있고
[13:39] <AutoWiZ_znc> 그래픽카드가 응답없음으로 빠지는경우도 있습니다.
[13:40] <DarkCircle> 보통 파워가 딸리기 시작한다는건 ㅡ,.ㅡ ...
[13:40] <DarkCircle> 대부분 먼지가 껴서 쇼트가 나거나 뭐 그렇 (중얼..)
[13:41] <DarkCircle> 그게 아니면 커패시터 같은 부품을 싸구려로 써서 내구성이 떨어져서 일 수도 있습니다.
[17:13] <jun> 안녕하세요~
[17:13] <jun> 앗...늦은 시간이라 그런가 Seony님이 안계시네;;;
[17:16] <AutoWiZ_znc> 3시 좀 넘으면 들어오실지도 ㅎㅎ
[17:18] <jun> 크흠~ Seony님이랑 와우 하기로 했었는데;; 제가 좀 많이 늦게 들어왔나보네요 ㅎㅎㅎㅎ
[17:18] <jun> 늦은 시간까지 안주무시네요?
[17:47] <AutoWiZ_znc> 뭐 어쩌다 보니 오늘도 그렇게 됐네요
[17:49] <jun> 크흠... 몇일전에도 거의 밤새시고서 점심때 넘어서 출근하셨다고 하셨던걸로 기억하는데... 매일 힘드시네요...
[17:50] <AutoWiZ_znc> 뭐 곧 좋은날이 오겠지요
[17:50] <AutoWiZ_znc> 미국 편입이라던가 , 우주인 침공이라던가
[17:50] <jun> 미국 편입?? 우주인침공???
[17:51] <AutoWiZ_znc> 몇주전에 우리나라를 그냥 미국 53번째인가요? 암튼 몇번째 주로 하면 어떻게 될까 라고 애기 했었던 적이 있었거든요.
[17:51] <AutoWiZ_znc> 우주인얘기는 그냥 해본 소리구요 ㅋ
[17:53] <jun> 미국편입이라.... 아싸리 나쁜이야기는 아닐꺼 같단 생각이 드네요
[17:57] <AutoWiZ_znc> 저도 그렇게 생각합니다 ㅎㅎㅎ
[17:59] <jun> 언능 끝내셔야할텐데....
[18:02] <AutoWiZ_znc> 뭐 주말이라 시간도 많겠다 쉬엄쉬엄하고 있습니다.
[18:05] <jun> 크~ 쉬셔야죠~
[18:05] <AutoWiZ_znc> 눈감으면 영원히 쉴텐데요 뭐
[18:06] <jun> 헉!
[18:08] <AutoWiZ_znc> 짧고 굵게 화려하게 ... 가 모토였는데 자꾸 늘어지네요 요즘 .ㅋㅋ
[18:16] <jun> 너무 그런 말씀 마세요~ 가족들하고 화목하게 오래오래사셔야죠~
[18:20] <jun> 전 이만 가볼께요... 언능 자야겠네요 ㅎㅎㅎ
[18:21] <jun> 무리하지 마시고 쉬엄쉬엄하세요~
[18:54] <AutoWiZ_znc> 안녕하ㅔ요
[18:54] <Seony> 안녕하세요
[18:55] <Seony> 어제 프록시 세팅하신건 잘 되셨어요? ㅎㅎ
[18:56] <AutoWiZ_znc> 일단 돌아가게는 해놨습니다. restart 스크립트가 이상한지
[19:00] <Seony> 뭔가 이상하네요. 그래도 인벤 로그인이 안되요
[19:00] <Seony> 이거 설마 익스플로러만 로그인하게 해놨나
[19:01] <Seony> 음... 제가 지금 병원에 잠깐 가야하는데 한 시간 후에 다시 올거거든요. 다시 와서 해보겠습니다.
[19:01] <Seony> 이따 뵈요
[19:10] <ircCloud^Seony> 병원을 너무 일찍 도착해버렸네요 ㅎㅎ
[19:18] <AutoWiZ_znc> 병원도 가까이에 있는건가요?
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ubuntu-chat
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2024-05-13T22:11:10.966386
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"razgon_MBP"
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"channel": "#ubuntu-ko"
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2015-04-10-#ubuntu-release
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[13:18] <rbasak> infinity: ^^ pretty please
[13:18] <rbasak> Oh. Auto accepted. Never mind. Of course it's in universe and not seeded.
[14:23] <gaughen> stgraber, slangasek - Would one of you have a look at the walinuxagent FFE pretty please - https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/1442392
[14:50] <zul> Can someone please promote python-pysaml2 please (lp: #1407695)
[14:53] <stgraber> gaughen: added to my todo, should get to it later today if slangasek doesn't beat me to it
[14:54] <gaughen> thanks stgraber!
[15:58] <stgraber> oops, forgot to pass the auto-approve flag ^
[16:38] <stgraber> gaughen, utlemming: so I'm confused, that FFe (bug 1442392) appears to only list bugfixes, what's the added/removed/changed "feature" in there?
[18:46] <LocutusOfBorg1> can anybody please process fglrx trusty new queue?
[19:24] <infinity> rbasak: ^-- That one builds on all arches.
[19:25] <infinity> rbasak: And submitted upstream as https://github.com/docker/libcontainer/pull/524
[20:52] <utlemming> stgraber: in re to FFe (bug 1442392) for walinuxagent, this is mostly a bug fix upgrade. But there is code that supports other things that made me think that a FFe was in order.
[20:53] <utlemming> stgraber: for example, there is code for GPT partitioning of the ephemeral device, but it won't be hit by a normal Ubuntu user. Or CoreOS support.
[20:55] <stgraber> utlemming: ok, granted
[20:59] <gaughen> stgraber, thanks!
[21:01] <utlemming> stgraber: awesome, thank you
[21:38] <rbasak> infinity: thank you!
[21:39] <infinity> rbasak: Of course, now I feel dirty because my name will end up in the docker AUTHORS file.
[21:41] <rbasak> :-P
[21:42] <infinity> rbasak: Not that it should, really, my commits weren't exactly copyrightable, but they don't seem to make the distinction. :P
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ubuntu-chat
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2024-05-13T22:11:10.973275
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"LocutusOfBorg1",
"gaughen",
"infinity",
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"utlemming",
"zul"
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"channel": "#ubuntu-release"
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2015-04-10-#ubuntu-motu
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[13:24] <Rhonda> Alright. The five uploads for wesnoth to Debian are down, now I need 10 more for Ubuntu where two should be taken of automaticly. *groans*
[15:01] <Rhonda> How regular are packages from Debian autosynced currently? And are they taken from unstable or from testing for vivid?
[15:01] <Laney> Autosyncs are off, we're in freeze
[15:05] <Rhonda> oh
[15:05] <Rhonda> Oh wait. It's april.
[15:06] <Rhonda> I have a security update for wesnoth, both 1.10 and 1.12 are affected. Is it possible to get that still in or shall we do that after vivid release?
[15:08] <Laney> Totally still possible, we're just in feature freeze
[15:08] <Rhonda> Thing is, given that backports to older releases depend on the update in vivid, it would delay the fix for the other releases too as I understand it, right?
[15:08] <Rhonda> Alright. :)
[15:08] <Rhonda> So, requestsync is my friend here I guess. What options do you suggest? :)
[15:09] <rbasak> For a security fix, the usual SRU procedure doesn't apply - the security team will sponsor the fix for you into the security pocket for stable releases.
[15:09] <Laney> Just sync as usual it if you don't need an exception
[15:10] <Laney> Then for the stable releases you can follow the security update procedure as rbasak says
[15:10] <Rhonda> As a motu I don't think I need an exception, do I?
[15:10] <Laney> Only if the upload is not pure bugfix
[15:11] <Rhonda> For wesnoth-1.10 it is, for wesnoth-1.12 it's new upstream stable release, which is mostly bugfix but also includes translation updates.
[15:11] <Laney> Oh yeah, those are fine too
[15:12] <Laney> I consider those bugfix as far as the freeze is concerned
[15:12] <Laney> (for default packages there are langpack and documentation considerations but those don't apply here)
[15:13] <Rhonda> It's a stable release update and they have tightly defined rules for those, all 1.12 series clients must be compatible with each other.
[15:13] <Rhonda> Please enter password for encrypted keyring:
[15:13] <Rhonda> Oo
[15:17] <Rhonda> What keyring is this talking about?
[15:18] <Rhonda> I don't find anything in the documentation about that …
[15:20] <Laney> launchpadlib ends up using python-keyring - you'll probably have set it up when you first used it
[15:30] <Rhonda> I won't use this system anymore within two months, so I won't debug what's going wrong. On a different system it didn't ask me for any password, did the sync from there. :)
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ubuntu-chat
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"Laney",
"Rhonda",
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"channel": "#ubuntu-motu"
}
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2015-04-10-#lubuntu
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[04:49] <Kenb> Anybody out there?
[04:49] <holstein> yes
[13:15] <dust> what is the button or key which brings the keyboard into handicapped mode?
[13:16] <dust> for example all keys are upper case... no its not the shift or the above shift key and also the led dosnt glow which shows the alternate works
[13:17] <dust> when i clicked in chat client at a channel it didnt select it but deleted it
[13:17] <dust> now after reboot it works as normal again
[13:18] <dust> its at lubuntu 14.10
[20:20] <ianorlin> dust: Are you still having keyboard troubles?
[20:21] <dust> the reboot fixed it
[20:21] <dust> but wasnt the 1st time that it happened
[20:22] <dust> and wont be the last time i think
[20:24] <ianorlin> argh the problem would be hard to use anything in the command line to fix anything with everything all caps
[20:25] <ianorlin> unless you knew how to fix it and did something clever with an alias
[20:26] <dust> i was in a game at full screen... and suddenly it happened... i dont remember after which keys and how long i did press em
[20:27] <dust> but at least its not as bad as: http://www.networkworld.com/article/2906983/security0/massachusetts-police-department-pays-500-cryptolocker-ransom.html
[20:33] <ianorlin> dust might be wise to save anything you are working on before playing that game
[20:34] <dust> imho its not the game but a key combination... sometimes it happens
[20:34] <ianorlin> dust have you tried pressing control alt f1 and switching to tty when this happens and is it all caps in the tty
[20:35] <dust> didnt try
[20:35] <ianorlin> could be X thinks all things are all caps and then running sudo service lightdm restart might make you be able to get back to normal operation without restarting
[20:35] <ianorlin> but you will be logged out of you x session
[20:35] <wxl> which game is this?
[20:35] <dust> but i had the upper case here in chat programm too... thats the reason i rebooted
[20:36] <dust> this game https://springrts.com/
[20:36] <dust> is also in the repo
[20:39] <wxl> seems like it's all in C unless you're using optional AIs
[20:39] <wxl> and it seems like it does a good job of providing lots of linux help
[20:39] <wxl> i'd be surprised if this didn't work well
[20:39] <wxl> and also if it didn't, if it couldn't be fixed easily
[20:39] <wxl> dust: you're using the upstream version/
[20:40] <wxl> man i like their wiki layout
[20:40] <dust> i use the version which gets downloaded from the lobby
[20:40] <wxl> dust: you tried in #taspring already?
[20:40] <dust> and as lobby i use this http://www.playdeb.net/game/SpringLobby
[20:41] <dust> nope didnt... but asked in the internal dev channel and they had no idea why it happens
[20:42] <dust> and yes the game runs good at linux... also with the open source amd drivers from 14.10
[20:43] <wxl> they should be able to solve it
[20:43] <wxl> for that matter they should be able to replicate it with your same version
[20:45] <dust> the problem is i dont know at which keys it happened... im busy in game and pressing various keys at various length and suddenly it happened... its seldom so nothing which happens usually... i always try a lot of keys after and once i got it back working... not remembering which key it was...
[20:45] <wxl> that's why you need to do some more testing before seeking help
[20:46] <wxl> "i don't know how it happens" is a problem no one can fix
[20:46] <dust> the problem with f11 key and full screen while its ingame also a menu key i solved with super f11... after trying out some stuff
[20:47] <dust> wxl if i would know which key to get into the situation or out of it i wouldnt ask here :)
[20:47] <holstein> i'll use live iso's, and run the live iso's on other hardware to help reduce variables with the specific hardware..
[20:47] <dust> i would just look into the key config and change that key for example or to avoid it or so
[20:48] <wxl> dust: i have no intention of downloading a whole game engine just to see if i can figure something out that you already have the tools to do so
[20:48] <wxl> dust: also holstein gives sage advice
[20:48] <wxl> of course if you can't replicate it, it's hard to test
[20:48] <holstein> its just an easy way to see whats happening on other hardware, when collecting information and troubleshooting.. relatively easy, at least
[20:48] <wxl> and if it's hard to test, it's hard to solve
[20:49] <wxl> and if it's hard to solve, we're not going to be of much assistance
[20:49] <wxl> so back to you, dust: figure out how to replicate it
[20:50] <dust> wxl, is there something like a handicapped setting in lxde/lubuntu? to me it seems as such
[20:51] <wxl> dust: just comment out the whole openbox configuration :)
[20:53] <dust> with handicapped setting i mean something like for ppl with only 1 hand that they set a key modifier and that holds they key while they operate with the mouse
[20:53] <holstein> for disabled users?
[20:53] <dust> yes
[20:54] <holstein> if you implement something like that, it can have an effect
[20:54] <holstein> or, if your hardware implements something like that, in the bios, or system, before the OS
[20:54] <dust> i didnt but a lot of os and desktops have such
[20:56] <dust> thats the reason i ask here as i didnt find soemthing if and where lubuntu / lxde has such
[20:56] <holstein> dust: so, you are running a game? thats not in the repos? does this happen any other time?
[20:57] <holstein> have you tried running the game on a live iso with another UI?
[20:57] <dust> the game is in the repo
[20:57] <holstein> sure, but, you are not using that version, correct?
[20:57] <dust> and i press keys in that way only at that game
[20:57] <holstein> have you tried/can you replicate that issue in the repo version?
[20:58] <dust> it also happens not all the time but sometimes
[20:58] <dust> it is the repo version
[20:58] <holstein> 16:40 < dust> i use the version which gets downloaded from the lobby
[20:59] <holstein> thats why im asking.. regardless, if it were me, i would just be trying as many versions as possible.. and on different iso's and live systems, to track down what is causing what to happen
[21:00] <holstein> you can also ask in #ubuntu since its not a lubuntu or lxde package, and you may find someone else using the software..
[21:05] <dust> i did install the spring version from repo but the lobby is also able to download other game versions
[21:06] <dust> and the actual version now is there since half a year so i think its the same version as in the official repo
[21:31] <wxl> holstein: he doesn't even know how to replicate it, so…
[21:44] <qpqpqp> hello
[21:44] <wxl> word
[21:44] <qpqpqp> a friend of mine have a problem with his lubuntu i installed on his system
[21:45] <qpqpqp> the build in updater hangs in an endless mode
[21:45] <wxl> define build in updater and what version
[21:46] <qpqpqp> it always report the same amount of updates available. It also reports the same amount of updates after an "apt-get update && apt-get upgrade && reboot"
[21:46] <wxl> what version?
[21:47] <qpqpqp> and that simply cant be. how can i help him to fix this problem? Its ubuntu 14.10 final
[21:47] <qpqpqp> i mean lubuntu 14.10
[21:47] <wxl> so what happens with apt-get update && apt-get upgrade??
[21:47] <qpqpqp> wxl: everything works perfectly with apt-get
[21:47] <wxl> so the issue is with lubuntu software center or hwat?
[21:48] <qpqpqp> the updating tool seems to hang somewhere
[21:48] <qpqpqp> i dont know what software reports automaticly on default installation that there are updates. but that is the software i am talking about
[21:49] <wxl> so you mean the update tool just stays open forever/
[21:50] <qpqpqp> wxl: the update tool repots the same file-size of available updates just atfer having them already updated before some minutes with apt-get update and apt-get upgrade
[21:50] <qpqpqp> and this since 2 weeks or more
[21:50] <wxl> i'm having a little trouble following you
[21:50] <wxl> so the update tool finishes without problem?
[21:50] <qpqpqp> okay. i explain again
[21:53] <qpqpqp> default installation of lubuntu 14.10. Used normally and it automaticly repots the updates from time to time and have worked for a while. Before maybe 2 weeks it have report an error the user does not understand and called me. i told him how to use the terminal and he made "apt-get update && apt-get update && reboot". The system got updated fine without any errors.
[21:53] <wxl> what error?
[21:55] <qpqpqp> After that he run again "apt-get update && apt-get upgrade" and nothing got updated. so the system was updated. and now the strange thing: The updater still reports every day the same amount of downloadable updates every time.
[21:55] <wxl> so the updater thinks there are updates to be had?
[21:56] <qpqpqp> also after an "apt-get update && apt-get upgrade" it reports the same amount of updates available. the whole time.
[21:56] <qpqpqp> wxl: yes
[21:56] <wxl> let's verify this again:
[21:56] <wxl> update-manger: some updates
[21:56] <wxl> apt-get: no updates
[21:56] <wxl> right?
[21:56] <qpqpqp> right
[21:57] <wxl> which updates?
[21:58] <qpqpqp> he cant explain because of low understanding about all of that and i was not at his home since the updates came. i just told him over the telephone to update with command line and that works
[21:59] <qpqpqp> i would like to know how to help him when i am next time at his home. with such a problem. i never had something like that.
[21:59] <wxl> it's possible that the software updater is looking for proposed updates
[22:00] <wxl> see if apt-get dist-upgrade fixes things
[22:01] <wxl> beyond that we'd want to look at how you have software sources set up
[22:01] <wxl> also, i should be clear, this is not a freeze or a hang
[22:01] <qpqpqp> wxl: Does dist-upgrade updates also to an new release when it gets out? for example in this case when 15.04 came out, would an dist-upgrade update an 14.10 to 15.04?
[22:01] <wxl> dist-upgrade is not for changing mielstone versions
[22:02] <qpqpqp> so its not "distribution-upgrade"?
[22:02] <wxl> nope, cli milestone upgrades are handled by do-release-upgrade
[22:03] <qpqpqp> i have read somewhere in the net that someone had a problem because of failing updates on his system because his boot partition got full
[22:04] <qpqpqp> he told lubuntu would keep too many old kernels
[22:04] <qpqpqp> if this is the case, how can that get fixed?
[22:04] <qpqpqp> so that it does not come again
[22:04] <qpqpqp> can i setup somewhere how many old kernels should be kept?
[22:05] <wxl> that's a problem with installing updates
[22:05] <wxl> totally different thing
[22:05] <wxl> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Lubuntu/Documentation/RemoveOldKernels
[22:05] <wxl> note: BE CAREFUL WITH THAT
[22:06] <qpqpqp> how many old kernels does lubuntu save before starting to remove the oldest ones?
[22:07] <wxl> ubuntu saves them all afaik
[22:07] <qpqpqp> when using just the update-manager
[22:07] <qpqpqp> wxl: ?? but at some point the boot partition would get full
[22:07] <wxl> yep
[22:08] <qpqpqp> an normal user does not know what a boot partition is
[22:08] <Kamilion> yep.
[22:09] <Kamilion> That's why the standard installer won't create a boot partition.
[22:09] <qpqpqp> I read always that lubuntu should be user friendly
[22:09] <Kamilion> one ext4 partition is all you need for modern systems.
[22:09] <Kamilion> So if you decided to create a boot partition, you get to keep both peices if it breaks. :)
[22:09] <qpqpqp> Kamilion: ah, so there is no boot partition on a default installation?
[22:10] <Kamilion> Nope, just a single ext4 volume is the normal default.
[22:10] <Kamilion> if the user chose LVM, it might create a boot partition, I'm not sure offhand, I don't use or trust LVM2
[22:10] <qpqpqp> also no swap partition?
[22:10] <qpqpqp> yes, the user have LVM chosen
[22:11] <Kamilion> then there ya go.
[22:11] <Kamilion> LVM's never been user friendly (for me) nor paticularly stable (for me).
[22:12] <qpqpqp> but its not listed as unstable
[22:12] <Kamilion> Neither is using an EISA network card; but apparently it broke last year and only one person complained.
[22:13] <qpqpqp> so an lvm based installation ALWAYS break after some time because of keeping every kernel and because there exists an tiny boot partition
[22:13] <Kamilion> no, not always.
[22:13] <Kamilion> only if the user's totally anal about updating every time they're prompted.
[22:13] <Kamilion> and various other tasks try to run 'apt-get autoremove' on occasion
[22:13] <qpqpqp> Kamilion: yes, he always updates when he gets an report about updates available
[22:14] <Kamilion> which does tend to purge down to two or three kernels (depends if you've reboot after updating or not)
[22:15] <Kamilion> if you're on .20 and .23 is released and installed and .24 is released and installed, and .25 is released and installed, it will pick .23 to remove, but not .20 (if it's still running)
[22:16] <qpqpqp> Kamilion: Does autoremove been run automaticly every time when update-manager made an update?
[22:16] <Kamilion> in some cases, yes.
[22:16] <Kamilion> it seems it does on my 14.04 and 14.10 systems in some cases
[22:17] <Kamilion> but i also have the unattended-upgrades package installed
[22:17] <qpqpqp> can it be set somewhere how many kernel versions autoremove should keep?
[22:17] <Kamilion> it will keep "the last two, plus the running kernel"
[22:17] <Kamilion> I do not know where it's source of configuration is.
[22:17] <qpqpqp> by default. ok. and how can i set it to keep for example the last one plus the running kernel?
[22:17] <Kamilion> write a script?
[22:18] <Kamilion> I dunno, I'm more of a server admin these days than a desktop tweaker
[22:18] <Kamilion> i'm also just a user. Just like you.
[22:19] <Kamilion> I'm not part of canonical or the lubuntu project (at least, not yet)
[22:19] <qpqpqp> and what does "some time" mean? can that mean it does not remove 10 old kernels, then it removes every time there are 4 old kernels, then it again dont remove 12 kernels, and so on?
[22:20] <Kamilion> i don't know what triggers the behavior. I've only observed it.
[22:21] <Kamilion> looks like it may be part of the unattended-upgrades settings
[22:24] <qpqpqp> i have tested the nightly of 15.04. there are two bugs. when it say that i can remove now the installation media and press enter, pressing enter does not do anything
[22:24] <qpqpqp> the secong thing is an X-error i have to click away at every boot. it starts after that LXDE
[22:27] <qpqpqp> are those errors known?
[22:31] <wxl> qpqpqp: yes, but you can confirm that yourself by searching for them on launchpad
[22:31] <wxl> well the former is
[22:32] <qpqpqp> wxl: did you know an solution for this "boot partition when using LVM & killing systems with boot partition by not removing the old kernels"?
[22:32] <wxl> qpqpqp: huh?
[22:33] <qpqpqp> wxl: does lubuntu remove the old kernels?
[22:33] <qpqpqp> or does it keep them for ever?
[22:33] <wxl> qpqpqp: there is a rare linux that does
[22:34] <qpqpqp> wxl: what did you mean with rare linux that does?
[22:35] <wxl> qpqpqp: this is not necessarily "lubuntu" behavior. it's fairly common in the linux world.
[22:35] <wxl> qpqpqp: here's some more info for you https://askubuntu.com/questions/563483/why-doesnt-apt-get-autoremove-remove-my-old-kernels
[22:41] <qpqpqp> wxl: when /etc/kernel/postinst.d/apt-auto-removal is been edit, how can /etc/apt/apt.conf.d/01autoremove-kernels be automaticly generated again? Does that really happen at for example the next reboot?
[22:42] <wxl> qpqpqp: if you read the whole thing it will save up to 3 if you make sure to autoremove. not sure about the behavior if you don't.
[22:43] <qpqpqp> wxl: does the update-manager run autoremove automaticly?
[22:43] <wxl> qpqpqp: it can, but not necessarily
[22:44] <qpqpqp> wxl: but when the /boot partition get full, that breaks the updater
[22:45] <wxl> qpqpqp: you're worrying about a non-problem
[22:45] <qpqpqp> i think thats critical when its not been done automaticly at every update
[22:45] <qpqpqp> why non-problem?
[22:45] <wxl> qpqpqp: have you filled up boot?
[22:47] <qpqpqp> i have the hard feeling that is the reason of the broken update-manager
[22:47] <wxl> you're describing two unrelated issues
[22:48] <qpqpqp> does the size of the /boot partition always have the same size (for example 100mb /boot, everything else of the HDD normal / partition) or is the size of /boot partition been made based on the size of the drive?
[22:49] <wxl> they're two unrelated issues
[22:49] <wxl> i have never filled up my /boot after years of using ubuntu
[22:49] <wxl> so this is really a non-problem
[22:49] <qpqpqp> wxl: how big is your boot partition?
[22:52] <Kamilion> when I partition my own systems, I normally make a 256MB /boot If I'm using something like a raid array or something that grub can't look inside of directly.
[22:52] <Kamilion> looking through the installer's config at the moment to find it's default for LVM
[22:53] <qpqpqp> Kamilion: yes, that would be perfect to know whats the default and if there is a hard default or the installer just make a big /boot for big drives and small /boot for small droves
[22:55] <Kamilion> as far as I know, the lvm partition map uses a static size for /boot
[22:57] <qpqpqp> in some seconds we will know that for shure. thanks for looking that up
[23:03] <Kamilion> makes a 256MB partition.
[23:03] <Kamilion> enough for about 8 kernel+initrds
[23:03] <Kamilion> (at the initrd sizes I get)
[23:03] <Unit193> ~30M per initrd is average.
[23:04] <Unit193> Just don't use grml-rescueboot. :P
[23:04] <Kamilion> yeah, that was my estimate
[23:04] <Kamilion> 256/30=8.5
[23:05] <Unit193> 4.0M Apr 9 17:59 /boot/initrd.img-3.19.3-u193 :D
[23:06] <Kamilion> nice, you must not need much during boot.
[23:08] <qpqpqp> i have seen 100MB boot partition with an 14.10 installation. It should be always 256MB, right?
[23:09] <qpqpqp> Kamilion: can you show me a link to the place where i can read that it should be always 256mb?
[23:09] <genii> It should be large enough to hold how many previous kernels you want to hold onto
[23:09] <Kamilion> qpqpqp: depends on which installer option you've chosen. 14.10 AMD64 Desktop ISO?
[23:10] <qpqpqp> yes, 14.10 64bit desktop iso
[23:10] <Kamilion> I just ran through a virtual machine install
[23:10] <Kamilion> on virtualbox
[23:10] <Kamilion> it made a 256MB /boot when I selected "use LVM"
[23:11] <qpqpqp> how big was the HDD you made in virtualbox?
[23:12] <Kamilion> 8GB, the default.
[23:12] <Kamilion> so it's not scaling by device size.
[23:13] <wxl> considering 8192 % 256 = 0, it may be
[23:13] <Kamilion> well, i can try again with a sparse 250GB image
[23:13] <wxl> but only if a 16 gig gives you 512 :)
[23:13] <wxl> or if you're really interested, just go hunt through the ubiquity code and figure it out :/
[23:14] <wxl> i believe it's not worth my time to fix when it's not broken :)
[23:15] <Kamilion> mhm
[23:15] <Kamilion> i'll find the exact file it's defined in in a few minutes
[23:15] <Kamilion> vbox is busy right now
[23:16] <Kamilion> also, unattended-upgrades will try to remove kernels
[23:21] <qpqpqp> wxl: in the recent 15.04 nightly i have to change to command line and run "swapoff" by hand after knowing that the username is "lubuntu" and password is NONE. I dont think that that is a bug and not the normal way
[23:21] <Kamilion> argh, so that's what changed
[23:22] <wxl> you think?!
[23:22] * Kamilion tries the username 'lubuntu' instead of 'ubuntu'
[23:22] <wxl> oh
[23:22] <wxl> derp
[23:22] <wxl> that's old hat :)
[23:22] <Kamilion> uh, last I knew the livecd user was 'ubuntu'.
[23:23] <Unit193> lubuntu for Lubuntu isos.
[23:23] <qpqpqp> wxl: that is the normal-user way of the installation of lubuntu with lvm and cryptsetup?! really?
[23:23] <Unit193> $flavor for $flavor
[23:23] <Kamilion> how odd...
[23:23] <Kamilion> i could have sworn it was 'ubuntu' password 'ubuntu' for 14.04
[23:23] <Kamilion> I must be crazy, lol
[23:24] <Kamilion> or ubuntu-builder is broken/crazy
[23:26] <wxl> qpqpqp: would you like to learn more about testing and how to report bugs?
[23:26] <qpqpqp> wxl: the installation of 15.04 nightly is broken with lvm and cryptsetup.
[23:26] <qpqpqp> it does not boot
[23:29] <wxl> Kamilion: 256 is not speecified anywhere in ubiquity fwiw
[23:29] <qpqpqp> also the buttons in the installation for configuring the installation are missing. For example i just know where to press to set the functionality to on/off. When pressing on an empty space, the circle come (its choosen now).
[23:29] <Kamilion> the outlines are missing, yes.
[23:29] <wxl> qpqpqp: i can tell you where to report this and how you can help with testing
[23:29] <Kamilion> bugged the hell out of me too.
[23:29] <qpqpqp> outlines is the world for that. thanks Kamilion
[23:30] <qpqpqp> wxl: can i just tell you here where the bugs are?
[23:30] <wxl> qpqpqp: i wish i had time to be your secretary
[23:32] <qpqpqp> wxl: my? i report bugs on "our" software. not on "my" software. So i also make "your" software you use a better ;)
[23:33] <wxl> qpqpqp: if you choose not to actually report the bugs in a way that will lead to some sort of solution, chances are no one will hear you screaming :)
[23:34] <Kamilion> http://imgs.xkcd.com/comics/cnr.png
[23:34] <qpqpqp> you hear me and you are a dev. just tell if you dont like to know about them. then i would not describe them to you
[23:35] <wxl> qpqpqp: i do not have time to write down your issues for you. if you have time to complain about them here, you have time to file bug reports.
[23:35] <Kamilion> Status: closed. Reason: Could not reproduce.
[23:35] <wxl> thanks for repeating the punchline Kamilion :)
[23:36] <Kamilion> Some people are too lazy to click.
[23:36] <Kamilion> Besides, there's no easy way to reference an individual xkcd comic pane.
[23:36] <qpqpqp> Kamilion: thats why i would like to report here on an active talk. If the dev cant reproduce that, i can test on other computer and find an other way to reproduce the error and so on.
[23:39] <Kamilion> Wish I were a developer.
[23:39] <Kamilion> sadly, I'm just a lil' ol lazy scripter
[23:39] <qpqpqp> then when i report the bug and a known dev answers directly to the bug that he also have it on his system, that would be fully clear
[23:39] <qpqpqp> Kamilion: i mean wxl
[23:39] <wxl> don't have to be a developer to write bug reports
[23:39] <wxl> qpqpqp: if you want me to get involved with it, you can always write the bug report and subscribe me to it
[23:40] <wxl> (although there's better ways of dealing with it that involves the whole team rather than one person)
[23:40] <wxl> (which makes a lot more sense)
[23:41] <qpqpqp> wxl: after reported some bugs that was every time fully blocking everything here on two systems and those bugs just get closed because of http://imgs.xkcd.com/comics/cnr.png , i like to create the bug together with the dev itself
[23:41] <wxl> qpqpqp: why did they get closed?
[23:41] <wxl> because of a pregnancy test failing?
[23:42] <qpqpqp> no answer, just closed with "cant reproduce". Should i make an youtube video to prove that the bug was there? :(
[23:43] <Kamilion> i asked that same question earlier yesterday! :D
[23:43] <wxl> show me the bug that got closed
[23:43] <Kamilion> re: "should I just make a video?"
[23:43] <qpqpqp> Kamilion: :)
[23:45] <qpqpqp> wxl: i stopped using that software. it was not lubuntu.
[23:45] <wxl> qpqpqp: doesn't sound relevant then
[23:45] <qpqpqp> that was just a short story why i want to work on the bugs together with the devs and dont report them alone any more
[23:46] <Kamilion> i still havn't reported the VM GUI bug yet, because I'm still trying to figure out what circumstances it's reproducable under.
[23:48] <wxl> qpqpqp: you're doing what's called local optimization. making something work for you, despite the process that exists
[23:48] <wxl> qpqpqp: you're also taking some other situation and trying to necessarily apply it to this situation
[23:49] <qpqpqp> wxl: but again about the installation with LVM and cryptsetup. I dont think that changing to an ttyX and turning off swap by hand is what you mean how the installation should look like, right?
[23:49] <Kamilion> anyway, I don't think anybody's getting paid to work on lubuntu. AFAIK it's not a canonical-sponsored project, even though they kindly provide launchpad space for it
[23:49] <Kamilion> I havn't paid much attention to that stuff in a while
[23:50] <wxl> qpqpqp: sounds like it should be reported on the iso tracker
[23:50] <Kamilion> So for the most part; we're all volunteers, subject to real-world jobs outside of our <3 for lubuntu
[23:52] <qpqpqp> wxl: as i remember its also like that on stable 14.10.
[23:52] <qpqpqp> its nice to know that a dev now know about that :)
[23:52] <wxl> right, Kamilion
[23:52] <wxl> like i'm at my regular paying job now
[23:53] <qpqpqp> thanks so far. hopefully we get an stable 15.04. Is the release date the same as on ubuntu?
[23:53] <wxl> so if you want something to happen, i'd suggest doing something better than just complaining here, qpqpqp
[23:54] <qpqpqp> thanks so far. bye
[23:55] * Kamilion geoips that
[23:55] <Kamilion> No wonder. German fellow.
[23:56] <Kamilion> Cultural differences. *nods sagely*
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[10:41] <grek> czesc
[10:41] <grek> czym moze byc spowodowane brak mozliwosci polaczenia z google gmailem i innymi uslugami google - inne strony dzialaja
[10:43] <jacekn> pobytem w Chinach
[10:43] <grek> http://wklej.to/wR4VJ
[10:46] <grek> pobyt w chinach mogę wykluczyć
[10:48] <jacekn> grek: no moze sie serwer wysypal albo jakis firewall Cie blokuje
[10:49] <jacekn> grek: a google.com dziala?
[10:49] <Ashiren> com.google
[10:49] <grek> sytacja jest dosc dziwna google.com przekierowuje na https://www.yahoo.com/
[10:50] <grek> http://google.om bo https://google.com nie dziala
[10:51] <grek> dzieje sie tak na chromium i ff
[10:51] <grek> kubuntu
[10:51] <grek> czyli nei jakis smiec w przegladarce
[10:51] <grek> jakis kosmos
[10:52] <grek> jak namierzyc cczym to moze byc spowodowane
[11:12] <jacekn> grek_: mozez jakims mtr zobaczy cos jest
[11:13] <jacekn> grek: ten IP ktory masz dla google.pl (205.234.204.234) wyglada na niepoprawny. Moze jakiegos dziwnego DNSa uzywasz? Zobacz sobie komenda dig czy to jest dobry IP
[11:14] <grek> http://wklej.to/lLYQK
[11:16] <jacekn> grek: bardziej mi chodzi o reczne wyszukanie digiem, zacznij od "dig @i.root-servers.net. pl ns" i tak dalej
[11:16] <jacekn> dig @g-dns.pl. google.pl ns
[11:17] <jacekn> i potem dig @<nameserver> google.pl
[11:17] <grek> ok zmienilem na reczny dns i zaczelo dzialac
[11:17] <grek> dzieki
[11:17] <jacekn> ktos Ci robi psikusa, moze ISP
[11:23] <grek> co to ISP
[11:23] <grek> moj provider ?
[11:23] <grek> ustawilem recznie na jego dns
[11:23] <jacekn> tak
[11:23] <grek> moze ktos mi sie wbil do routera
[11:23] <jacekn> o to miales jakis inny? ciekawe
[11:23] <jacekn> no moze, lepiej sprawdz
[11:23] <grek> zresetowalem do domyslnych ustawien i zmienilem hasla
[11:23] <grek> chyba wystarczy ?
[11:25] <grek> czy cos jeszcze
[11:28] <jacekn> uaktualnij firmware tez
[11:29] <jacekn> jak miales dobre haslo od poczatku to moze jest w nim jakas dziura
[11:29] <grek> slabe haslo mialem
[11:30] <grek> zastanawialem sie nawet nad open wifi
[11:30] <grek> zeby jak ktos jest w zasieegu mugl sie laczyc
[11:30] <grek> nie ubedzie mi
[11:30] <grek> tylko zeby sobie jak ktos nie robil
[11:30] <grek> jaj
[11:30] <gjm> o boge
[11:41] <Ashiren> boshe
[21:18] <m477> debian na desktopa sie nie nadaje?
[21:20] <Ashiren> :s
[21:23] <m477> spotkalem sie z opinia ze to typowo serwerowe distro
[21:24] <Ashiren> na dekstop tylko arch
[21:24] <Ashiren> na serwer tylko arch
[21:24] <Ashiren> na komorke tylko arch
[21:25] <m477> czemu? wlasnie sie zastanawiam nad arch/deb'em
[21:27] <Ashiren> wybierz archa, wszyscy ci tutaj to powiedza
[21:27] <Ashiren> TheNumb np.
[22:37] <jacekn> m477: debian na desktop to troche bida
[22:38] <m477> jacekn: bo?
[22:38] <jacekn> m477: jak sie znasz to sobie dasz rade, jak nie to uzyj czegos prostego
[22:38] <Dread> chyba stable
[22:38] <Dread> (czy ktokolwiek używa debiana stable poza produkcją?)
[22:38] <jacekn> m477: bo to nie jest distro ktore jest robione z mysla o nietechnicznych uzytkownikach
[22:38] <m477> instaluje archa na VM
[22:38] <Dread> jacekn: głupie gadanie.
[22:38] <jacekn> e tam
[22:38] <m477> wlasciwie koncze
[22:38] <Dread> to jest distro, które ma działać
[22:39] <Dread> a to jest akuratnie ok dla endusera
[22:39] <Dread> archa nie instaluj
[22:39] <jacekn> taa
[22:39] <Dread> Ashiren kłamie i obraża papieża
[22:39] <Dread> i na serwerze nie ma archa, bo nie ma serwera
[22:40] <m477> ano to chyba ze
[22:41] <Dread> debian unstable nadaje się na desk
[22:41] <Dread> jak ktoś chce być full bleeding edge, to sobie jeszcze repo experimental dopisze.
[22:41] <jacekn> sa inne dystrybucje ktore sie duzo lepiej nadaja
[22:42] <Dread> na przykład? ;d
[22:42] <m477> arch?
[22:42] <Dread> nie.
[22:42] <jacekn> nie wiem ubuntu moze? Dawno nie probowalem ale moze opensuse tez
[22:42] <Dread> opensuse krowa
[22:42] <Dread> trzeba być specyficznym człowiekiem, żeby używać.
[22:43] <jacekn> na biurku jak ktos sie nie zna nie bedzie musial za wiele robic w konsoli w ubuntu
[22:43] <jacekn> a jak ktos umie to co za roznica jakie distro w sumie
[22:43] <Dread> spora
[22:43] <jacekn> Dread: rozwim?
[22:43] <jacekn> rozwin znaczy sie
[22:43] <Dread> wtedy kwestia tego, czy user jest masochistą, czy nie.
[22:44] <jacekn> albo czy lubi sie bawic albo nie
[22:44] <jacekn> kwestia gustu po prostu
[22:44] <Dread> jak lubi marnować czas na rzeczy, które system powinien zrobić sam, to sobie zainstaluje archa
[22:44] <jacekn> a jak lubi apta to moze tez debiana unstable
[22:44] <Dread> jak nie przeszkadza mu, że czasem sobie za dużo paczek zaciągnie, to sobie wrzuci debiana
[22:45] <m477> czemu akurat unstable? bo nowsze pakiety?
[22:45] <jacekn> bo to wieksza przygoda!
[22:45] <Dread> m477: w stable jest archeologia.
[22:45] <Dread> w testingu w sumie też.
[22:45] <m477> jacekn: zwlaszcza jak sie caly czas cos krzaczy
[22:45] <m477> ?
[22:46] <Dread> tylko, że jeszcze trzeba wyjaśnić co oznacza 'unstable' w debianie unstable
[22:46] <Dread> oznacza tylko niestabilność kodu - tzn. że może się zaraz zmienić
[22:46] <Dread> a nie niestabilność w działaniu.
[22:47] <Dread> tam trafiają paczki, które są już jakoś wstępnie sprawdzone
[22:47] <jacekn> ale od czasu do czasu cos tam sie posypie troche w unstable
[22:47] <Dread> jacekn: kiedy np? ;d
[22:47] <jacekn> np. ok 3 razy na miesiac jak uzywalem go kilka late temu
[22:47] <Dread> na czym.
[22:47] <jacekn> ale dat nie pamietam
[22:47] <jacekn> na laptopie
[22:47] <Dread> 'kilka lat temu'
[22:47] <Dread> słowo klucz.
[22:48] <Dread> na czym się wysypywał
[22:48] <Dread> o to mi chodzi
[22:48] <jacekn> no np. srodowisko graficzne sie wysypywalo po aktualizacjach i trzeba bylo sie bawic z configami
[22:48] <jacekn> wszystko bylo do zrobienia oczywiscie
[22:49] <Dread> dość ciekawe.
[22:49] <Dread> jakoś nigdy mnie takie coś się nie trafiło.
[22:49] <jacekn> ciekawe ze paczki moga nie zadzialac przy aktualizacji?
[22:50] <Dread> prawdopodobnie po prostu była jakaś dość jebitna zmiana w configach
[22:50] <Dread> co pewnie było napisane na liście, albo gdzieś ludzie tworzący środowisko/paczki o tym pisali.
[22:51] <jacekn> no pewnie tak, niewazne z punktu widzenia uzytkownika biurkowego
[22:51] <Dread> zdarza się, że coś nie działa - po to jest ticket system.
[22:51] <jacekn> no i dlatego mowie ze czasami sa przygody
[22:52] <Dread> ale te same przygody będziesz miał na każdym innym distro.
[22:52] <jacekn> no wlasnie ze nie, np. w Ubuntu LTS naraz nie bedzie wielkiej zmiany w plikach konfiguracyjnych
[22:52] <jacekn> tak samo zreszta w debian stable
[22:53] <Dread> w debianie stable dostajesz to, co jest zamrożone z testinga
[22:53] <Dread> i tylko łatki bezpieczeństwa na to
[22:53] <jacekn> dokladnie
[22:53] <Dread> nie jest dodawana żadna funkcjonalność
[22:53] <jacekn> tak jest, o to wlasnie chodzi
[22:53] <Dread> dlatego z releasu na release masz archeologię już przy releasie.
[22:53] <jacekn> tak jest zgadzam sie
[22:54] <Dread> popatrz np. iceweasel
[22:55] <Dread> w stablu masz 24.8.1esr, a 31.6 jako security update
[22:55] <jacekn> Dread: ale nie musisz mi tlumaczyc tego
[22:55] <jacekn> Dread: po prostu chcialem Ci udowodnic ze "te same przygody będziesz miał na każdym innym distro" to bzdura
[22:56] <Dread> tylko powiedziałeś o konkretnych przypadkach, gdzie jest całość mrożona
[22:56] <Dread> robisz upgrade np z squeeze na wheezy, będziesz miał te przygody
[22:56] <Dread> skończy się wsparcie dla ltsa, musisz zrobić upgrade do następnego - też będziesz to miał
[22:56] <Dread> więc to nie bzdura.
[22:56] <jacekn> tak jest ale to nie jest to samo co system ktory sie ma prawo zmienic sam
[22:57] <Dread> godzisz się na to instalując unstable.
[22:57] <jacekn> no wlasnie
[22:57] <Dread> i masz to w każdym innym distro bleeding edge.
[22:57] <jacekn> chcesz przygody - bierzesz unstable. Chcesz stabilnosci bierzesz stable albo jakies Ubuntu LTS i nie bedzie przygod
[22:57] <Dread> kończąc temat
[22:57] <Dread> gentoo master race
[22:57] <Dread> dobranoc.
[22:58] <jacekn> tylko Plan9
[22:58] <Dread> 9front*
[23:00] <m477> co to
[23:01] <m477> hm chyba nie zainstalowalem zadnego bootloadera
[23:03] <m477> nie ma to jak pic kole ze szklanki po kawie
[23:05] <Voldenet> nie ma to jak pić kawę ze szklanki po kawie
[23:06] <Dread> nie ma to jak nie pić kawy :V
[23:15] <m477> glupi grub :<
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[12:06] <apw> hanfm, that is most likley to be a bug in either cron or libpthread i would assume, it is reporting that that application core dumped
[12:14] <popey> are we including https://git.kernel.org/linus/9c4f61f01d269815bb7c37be3ede59c5587747c6 in 15.04? (ref https://btrfs.wiki.kernel.org/index.php/Gotchas)?
[16:19] <stgraber> ogasawara: hey, any chance we can reschedule the lxc/lxd sync to be earlier on Tuesday? hallyn will be around on Monday and Tuesday but has to leave around 3pm.
[16:19] <ogasawara> stgraber: sure, lemme shuffle things around
[16:19] <stgraber> ogasawara: thanks
[16:20] <hallyn> thanks
[23:46] <pepee> apw, are you here?
[23:50] <infinity> pepee: It's 1am for him, I'd guess "no".
[23:50] <pepee> oh, sorry
[23:51] <pepee> anyway.. I was wondering, will there be a fix for this bug in trusty, too? https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/utopic/+source/linux/+bug/1313804
[23:51] <infinity> zequence: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux-lowlatency/+bug/1442400
[23:53] <infinity> pepee: You might want to comment on the bug and mention that it's a problem in the trusty kernel.
[23:54] <pepee> the bug report itself includes that info, infinity
[23:55] <pepee> the "feature" never worked in these laptops, with the radeon driver, afaiu
[23:55] <infinity> pepee: Ahh, indeed, I missed the 3.13 reference.
[23:56] <infinity> pepee: Added a trusty task, we'll see.
[23:57] <pepee> thanks
[23:59] <pepee> yeah, I didn't understand why it wasn't added
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2015-04-10-#ubuntu+1
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[05:19] <Guest50312> i'm in the live image, using it now, of kubuntu 15.04, and the installer crashes on efi as per this bug report; https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubiquity/+bug/1428877 how do i work around it or fix it
[09:19] <lordievader> Good morning.
[11:16] <Dry_Lips> furkan: I used to have lag with KDE running on older hardware, but I haven't noticed lag with (relatively) new computers running proprietary drivers..
[11:33] <BluesKaj> Hiyas all
[11:42] <chotaz`w> how do I "upgrade" to a beta release?
[11:43] <maxb> update-manager -c -d
[11:43] <BluesKaj> !upgrade
[12:54] <lolcat> hello
[12:54] <lolcat> What kernel in 15.04?
[12:55] <MoonUnit`> 3.19
[13:04] <lolcat> MoonUnit`: is it a good kernel?
[13:04] <lolcat> MoonUnit`: is it faster than 3.16?
[13:05] <MoonUnit`> no idea, using 4.0-rc's
[13:05] <MoonUnit`> 4.0 has decent fan control for my radeon card.
[14:26] <knittl> hi. I'm using gnome-shell and after resuming from standby, shortcuts stop working (i.e. super-t, super-l, volume buttons). Is there a related bug report/fix?
[14:56] <Erthe> Does someone have a link I can visit with the list of open bugs in the 15.04 Kubuntu?
[14:56] <Erthe> Trying to determine if I'd be logging a duplicate.
[14:57] <MoonUnit`> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bugs?field.searchtext=&orderby=-importance&field.status%3Alist=NEW&field.status%3Alist=CONFIRMED&field.status%3Alist=TRIAGED&field.status%3Alist=INPROGRESS&field.status%3Alist=FIXCOMMITTED&field.status%3Alist=INCOMPLETE_WITH_RESPONSE&field.status%3Alist=INCOMPLETE_WITHOUT_RESPONSE&assignee_option=any&field.assignee=&field.bug_reporter=&field.bug_commenter=&field.subscriber=&field.structural_subscriber=&field.
[14:57] <MoonUnit`> milestone%3Alist=68119&field.component-empty-marker=1&field.tag=kubuntu&field.tags_combinator=ANY&field.status_upstream-empty-marker=1&field.has_cve.used=&field.omit_dupes.used=&field.omit_dupes=on&field.affects_me.used=&field.has_no_package.used=&field.has_patch.used=&field.has_branches.used=&field.has_branches=on&field.has_no_branches.used=&field.has_no_branches=on&field.has_blueprints.used=&field.has_blueprints=on&field.has_no_blueprints.used=&
[14:57] <MoonUnit`> field.has_no_blueprints=on&search=Search
[14:57] <MoonUnit`> eek, maybe i should shorten that
[14:58] <MoonUnit`> Erthe: http://bit.ly/1FI2ojh
[14:59] <Erthe> MoonUnit`: Thanks :D
[15:04] <Erthe> OK, so I have a bug that does not provide a crash report dialog; however, something is very much failing.
[15:05] <Erthe> ie. I can't use ubuntu-bug either
[15:09] <MoonUnit`> noticed their was a apport-kde update today, try updating and trying ubuntu-bug again
[15:10] <Erthe> apport-kde crashed on me, logged a bug against it.
[15:11] <Erthe> The bug I'm experiencing is when using web shortcuts or entering a URL directly into the Alt-F2 dialog I receive a message involving permissions and kioexec
[15:12] <MoonUnit`> hmm just tried via alt-f2 worked here, i'm using kubuntu 15.04.
[15:13] <Erthe> I'm on Kubuntu 15.04 Beta 2
[15:13] <Erthe> It also happens if I click a link in Konversation
[15:15] <lolcat> if I upgrade to 15.04 will I have to dist upgrade again when it goes out of beta?
[15:16] <MoonUnit`> Erthe: in default applications i had to set 'Web Browser' to to firefox, annoying problems with chrome taking over.
[15:16] <Erthe> https://www.dropbox.com/s/19pq8493jy1380o/crash.png?dl=0
[15:16] <MoonUnit`> lolcat: yes
[15:16] <Erthe> That's the initial error
[15:17] <lolcat> MoonUnit`: hm
[15:17] <Erthe> https://www.dropbox.com/s/twvabuewv2b95nl/crash2.png?dl=0
[15:17] <Erthe> And then this one.
[15:17] <Erthe> MoonUnit`: Oh... I use Google Chrome as well.
[15:18] <Erthe> Let me see if that'll fix that.
[15:19] <MoonUnit`> try checking these to see if they are set to firefox too.
[15:19] <MoonUnit`> sudo update-alternatives --config gnome-www-browser
[15:19] <MoonUnit`> sudo update-alternatives --config x-www-browser
[15:20] <lolcat> does zfs work in 15.04?
[15:21] <lolcat> *** Please make sure the kmod spl devel <kernel> package for your
[15:21] <lolcat> wat?
[15:23] <Erthe> Ohhh, weird. The default application for text/html was winebrowser
[15:23] <lordievader> Hihi
[15:24] <MoonUnit`> hi
[15:24] <lordievader> That was a laugh, not a 2x hi :P
[15:24] <MoonUnit`> heh
[15:26] <Erthe> OK, I can use Chrome without issue; just wondering why the default was winebrowser
[15:29] <MoonUnit`> probably due to windows .URL files.
[15:34] <lolcat> I am trying to upgrade
[15:34] <lolcat> it says /boot needs more free space
[15:34] <lolcat> wat to do?
[15:34] <lordievader> lolcat: Clean it up (through your package manager) or repartition.
[15:34] <lordievader> Resize partitions I mean. How large is your /boot?
[15:35] <lolcat> /dev/sda2 237M 157M 68M 70% /boot
[15:35] <lolcat> this is the last time I trust the installer to set up lvm
[15:36] <lolcat> lordievader: what command to remove the old kernel stuff?
[15:36] <lolcat> initrd.img-3.13.0-19-generic, initrd.img-3.16.0-33-generic and initrd.img-3.16.0-34-generic is useless
[15:36] <lordievader> lolcat: apt-get purge linux-image-<version>-generic
[15:37] <lordievader> lolcat: 240M is quite small.
[15:37] <lordievader> Should be fine for ~3 kernels.
[15:38] <lolcat> File descriptor 65 (/dev/pts/12) leaked on vgs invocation. Parent PID 17712: /usr/sbin/grub-probe
[15:38] <lolcat> lordievader: the installer is crap and it wouldn't let me manually partition properly so I just gave up
[15:39] <lolcat> but purging just one was enough to be able to install vivid
[15:40] <lolcat> fingers crossed for zfs working
[15:40] <lordievader> lolcat: The text-based installer lets you do what ever you want ;)
[15:40] <Erthe> lolcat: I always setup my own partitions manually.
[15:40] <Erthe> lolcat: No distro installer does it the way I like it.
[15:40] <lolcat> I don't like partitions, /home on zfs and everything else on / with no swap
[15:41] <Erthe> No offense to the *ubuntu folks
[15:42] <Erthe> I don't use swap either with the SSD.
[15:42] <lolcat> I don't mind swap, but then I would put it on a sparsefile or on zfs
[15:42] <Erthe> I'm sure that 16Gb of RAM is enough.
[15:43] <Erthe> I barely reach 3GB at my busiest.
[15:43] <lolcat> my / is a SSD, and my /home is on a HDD. And yes, 16gb ram is sufficient.
[15:43] <Erthe> My / is an 128Gb SSD and my /home is a 500Gb SSD. Simple setup.
[15:44] <lolcat> I have a 60GB ssd
[15:44] <lolcat> 750gb hdd
[15:44] <lolcat> Erthe: I have more gigabytes than you1
[15:44] <Erthe> lolcat: Well, I have a HAF-XM box with two x docks; have a 1TB HDD in there for large files.
[15:45] <Erthe> lolcat: It's NTFS though, shared with my Win7 install.
[15:45] <lolcat> Erthe: I have an icy box with two 3tb harddrive
[15:45] <lolcat> upgrade started
[15:45] <lolcat> cant wait for bleeding edge
[15:46] <Erthe> I'm loving Kubuntu 15.04 so far.
[15:46] <Erthe> Dying for a port of QtCurve to KF5 though.
[15:47] <knittl> is there a bug report related to shortcuts stopping to work after resume from suspend
[15:59] <lolcat> Erthe: I use xubunut or ubunut I think, but I only use i3wm
[16:00] <Erthe> lolcat: I've been running/following KDE since version 0.9x; there was a time I ran WindowMaker or BlackBox due to system constraints for memory/CPU, but these days that's hardly an obstacle.
[16:00] <lolcat> Erthe: I just found out I hate menus, and I hate windows
[16:01] <lolcat> i3wm has neither
[16:01] <lordievader> i3 is quite nice.
[16:01] <lordievader> Still I use KDE :P
[16:02] <lolcat> but it has too many things
[16:02] <Erthe> It comes down to what the environment provides on a daily basis and how tightly knit all of the elements are.
[16:03] <Erthe> No desktop environment is perfect for everyone.
[16:04] <lordievader> True that.
[16:05] <Erthe> I think the only beef I've had with KDE since Plasma is the damned peanut.
[16:05] <lordievader> Hehe
[16:05] <Erthe> And in Plasma 5 I can't get it to rest in a corner.
[16:07] <MoonUnit`> Erthe: yeah top left was annoying for me, moved the cashew to top right.
[16:07] <MoonUnit`> get nicely covered up by the browser now.
[16:08] <Erthe> No matter where it is, I can get to everything I need without it. I honestly don't think I ever use it.
[16:08] <Erthe> I wish I could disable the damned thing :D
[16:19] <Erthe> bbiab.
[18:21] <massiveblue> Hello, i have a boot issue with ubuntu gnome vivid, grub2. Freshly installed sys, last installed package: fglrx-driver I also have a BootInfo: http://paste.ubuntu.com/10793356/ I only see the grey rectangle after BIOS and nothing happens. What can I do to debug this?
[18:24] <BluesKaj> massiveblue, maybe use the default driver 'til you fihgure out why fglrx isn't working
[18:25] <furkan> would anybody else with a radeon card (southern islands) using the open-source driver mind checking if they can reproduce this glitch: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xserver-xorg-video-ati/+bug/1440602
[18:25] <massiveblue> BluesKaj: i cant start even with the opensource-driver
[18:26] <furkan> massiveblue: which card?
[18:26] <BluesKaj> massiveblue, xserver-xorg-video-ati doesn't work ?
[18:27] <massiveblue> furkan: Radeon HD5770
[18:28] <massiveblue> BluesKaj: it worked, then i installed fglrx, machine doesnt boot, i started live sys, chrooted and removed fglrx, ran update-grub, but the machine doesnt boot
[18:28] <furkan> strange that it wouldn't start with the open source driver
[18:28] <massiveblue> i think there is a problem with my grub
[18:28] <furkan> ah
[18:29] <furkan> here's an idea
[18:29] <furkan> i had a similar issue
[18:29] <furkan> boot into a recovery terminal, and type in
[18:29] <furkan> dpkg -l | grep fglrx
[18:29] <furkan> and then apt-get remove --purge all the remaining packages that you see
[18:29] <furkan> there should be 3 of them
[18:30] <furkan> it's not enough to remove, you need to remove --purge (at least that's what i have to do)
[18:30] <furkan> if you only remove, it leaves some configuration files behind, which screws things up
[18:30] <massiveblue> ok, how to get into "recovery terminal"? i have a live-cd which i can boot and chroot into my environment
[18:30] <furkan> no need
[18:31] <furkan> at your GRUB menu, go to advanced options
[18:31] <furkan> and choose the 3.19 recovery mode option
[18:31] <furkan> and then you'll be presented with another menu, choose root shell
[18:31] <massiveblue> the grub menu is the problem, i see grey rectangle, no entries and also it doesnt react on keyboard inputs
[18:32] <furkan> oh...
[18:32] <massiveblue> i could take a photo and upload it
[18:32] <furkan> when you removed fglrx from the chrooted environment, how did you do it?
[18:33] <massiveblue> from chrooted env, aptitude remove
[18:33] <furkan> probably worthwhile trying the purge from the chrooted environment then
[18:33] <furkan> but i'm not sure if it will fix your grub
[18:33] <furkan> maybe you also need to run an update-grub
[18:34] <massiveblue> ok, i will give it a try
[18:34] <furkan> actually, do run an update-grub
[18:34] <furkan> after you've purged fglrx
[18:36] <massiveblue> root@ubuntu-gnome:~# mount -o subvol=@ /dev/sda1 /mnt/
[18:36] <massiveblue> root@ubuntu-gnome:~# mount -o bind /dev/ /mnt/dev/
[18:36] <massiveblue> root@ubuntu-gnome:~# mount -o bind /sys/ /mnt/sys/
[18:36] <massiveblue> root@ubuntu-gnome:~# mount -o bind /proc/ /mnt/proc/
[18:36] <massiveblue> root@ubuntu-gnome:~# cp /proc/mounts /mnt/etc/mtab
[18:36] <massiveblue> cp: ‘/proc/mounts’ and ‘/mnt/etc/mtab’ are the same file
[18:36] <massiveblue> root@ubuntu-gnome:~# chroot /mnt/
[18:37] <furkan> massiveblue: might wanna pastebin it
[18:39] <massiveblue> ok
[18:42] <massiveblue> http://paste.ubuntu.com/10793608/ looks fine to me
[18:42] <massiveblue> i will try to reboot now
[19:04] <massiveblue> back again, this didnt worked
[19:04] <furkan> no change at all?
[19:05] <furkan> from your pastebin, what was interesting is that the fglrx packages still showed as installed
[19:05] <furkan> even though you tried to remove them before
[19:05] <furkan> the "ii" means they were installed
[19:05] <furkan> i was expecting them to show "rc"
[19:05] <furkan> which means they're removed, but config files are still present
[19:07] <massiveblue> no change at all, i upload a photo where i get stuck
[19:07] <lordievader> massiveblue: How much doesn't boot your machine? Does it show a splash screen?
[19:07] <massiveblue> http://abload.de/image.php?img=img_20150410_204348rvjbf.jpg
[19:08] <massiveblue> lordievader: does the photo-link answer your question?
[19:08] <lordievader> massiveblue: Not really. Unless that should be a splash...
[19:09] <massiveblue> lordievader: it's just a grey rectangle
[19:09] <lordievader> Grey?
[19:09] <massiveblue> lordievader: i dont know if this the grub2 splash screen
[19:09] <lordievader> massiveblue: You don't get to see grub?
[19:09] <massiveblue> yeah, big light grey rectangle, with darker grey border
[19:10] <massiveblue> lordievader: i dont get to menu, no
[19:10] <lordievader> Then it has nothing to do with radeon or fglrx, your grub is most likely broken.
[19:10] <lordievader> You do boot to a drive with grub installed?
[19:11] <massiveblue> lordievader: yes, i only have a single drive installed
[19:11] <furkan> maybe he needs to do this: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1581099
[19:11] <lordievader> Fresh install?
[19:12] <massiveblue> installed today
[19:12] <massiveblue> rebooted sometimes successfully
[19:12] <lordievader> So you did have the install running at some point?
[19:13] <massiveblue> last i wanted to switch to fglrx, because of video playback performance, and from there on i cant boot
[19:13] <massiveblue> yes, the system was running already
[19:14] <lordievader> After installing fglrx could you still get into grub?
[19:14] <massiveblue> no
[19:14] <lordievader> That is very odd...
[19:14] <massiveblue> this grey screen isnt from my bios or sr, i think it is from grub!
[19:15] <furkan> well i think installing fglrx does modify the grub config, does it not? because it needs to add the nomodeset option?
[19:15] <lordievader> Are you in a live environment now?
[19:15] <lordievader> furkan: I may hope fglrx does not add that.
[19:15] <lordievader> furkan: fglrx has nothing to do with grub.
[19:15] <massiveblue> i chat from my notebook, the non-booting machine is booted up to installer live cd
[19:16] <lordievader> massiveblue: Right, just to be safe, could you pastebin the install's /boot/grub/grub.cfg?
[19:16] <massiveblue> i remember that i installed microcde-package too
[19:16] <massiveblue> yes, give me some minutes
[19:23] <massiveblue> http://paste.ubuntu.com/10793909/
[19:25] <massiveblue> did i mention that this ubuntu-grome?
[19:26] <lordievader> Is this zfs or something, the /@/ thing.
[19:27] <furkan> in an earlier pastebin it was showing btrfs for his main partition
[19:27] <massiveblue> btrfs
[19:28] <lordievader> Ah, I heard btfs was broken with the kernel Vivid has.
[19:29] <massiveblue> this notebook has vivid gnome btrfs too!
[19:29] <lordievader> Yeah, and that was about the kernel, not grub.
[19:30] <lordievader> However I have no knowledge of BTRFS, or the caveats it has.
[19:30] <massiveblue> ok, thank you
[19:31] <lordievader> One thing you could try is reinstalling grub from the chroot.
[19:35] <furkan> if you don't know how, you can use this guide: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1581099
[19:57] <massiveblue> i reinstalled grub from internet followig the guide in this thread and it still does not boot. :(
[20:02] <lordievader> massiveblue: Still no grub? (Also do you hold shift after the bios?)
[20:03] <massiveblue> holding shift gives me menu! and it boots after selecting default entry!!!
[20:04] <massiveblue> thank you very much! but why is this?
[20:07] <viKKKtor> HI!
[20:07] <viKKKtor> anyone using Kubuntu Vivid?
[20:07] <viKKKtor> I'm haing a very horrible bug
[20:08] <lordievader> massiveblue: Ah, so it probably wasn't grub. But the kernel you saw.
[20:08] <lordievader> viKKKtor: I have it on my thinclient.
[20:16] <massiveblue> good bye, thank you for help
[21:29] <furkan> lordievader: i'm curious now, any explanation for that? what difference did it make that he manually selected the entry instead of letting it boot automatically?
[21:48] <natacus> Anyone been using Kubuntu 15.04 - would like to start using it now for my work - but should I wait?
[23:13] <lordievader> furkan: I don't know. But if grub automatically boots a ~broken kernel and when you get the menu you select something else... might explain things.
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ubuntu-chat
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2024-05-13T22:11:11.033749
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2015-04-10-#ubuntukylin-devel
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[02:03] <ypwong> jackyu, meeting?
[02:39] <jackyu> UK15.04 vivid-rc Bug列表以外的其他仍存在的Bug整理：
[02:39] <jackyu> 01.Bug #1305492 点击安装界面顶部状态栏中的的输入法图标“Zh”，弹出的功能菜单未汉化。
[02:39] <jackyu> 02.Bug #1365925 选择安装 (使用整个磁盘) 选项同时勾选加密选项，安装完成后的系统，在输入加密密码的界面存在汉化问题。
[02:39] <jackyu> 03.Bug #1306866 试用模式中，主文件夹界面的“Desktop”未翻译。
[02:39] <jackyu> 04.Bug #1403744 Dash中输入文字，闪退(仅i386系统存在该问题，amd64系统正常)。
[02:39] <jackyu> 05.Bug #1403762 使用系统自带截图软件screenshot进行截图，并以默认命名方式保存图片文件后，将该图片文件复制/剪切到U盘时，图片文件命名中的“:”&“中文字段”均变为下划线“_”。
[03:08] <jackyu> 15.04发布派对可选活动：1、4月25日，上海；2、5月16日，西安；3、广州 5月22日，4、6月13日，成都。
[03:14] <jackyu> 5，5月8日，成都。
[03:14] <jackyu> 5，5月8日，北京。
[03:15] <happyaron> http://people.ubuntu.com/~happyaron/presentations/20141116/systemd_intro_v2.pdf
[03:15] <ypwong> happyaron, ok, looks good :)
[03:16] <ypwong> more detailed than last one in opensuse conf
[03:16] <ypwong> :)
[03:19] <happyaron> ypwong: it's exactly the same PDF file...
[03:21] <ypwong> happyaron, huh
[03:22] <ypwong> sorry then, ENOMEM
[03:24] <happyaron> ypwong: EAGAIN could be slightly better, lol
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2015-04-10-#maas
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[03:11] <mup> Bug #1442446 was opened: 1.8b1: selecting multiple filtering properties returns all servers that match at least 1 property <oil> <MAAS:New> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1442446>
[03:17] <mup> Bug #1442446 changed: 1.8b1: selecting multiple filtering properties returns all servers that match at least 1 property <oil> <MAAS:New> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1442446>
[03:23] <mup> Bug #1442446 was opened: 1.8b1: selecting multiple filtering properties returns all servers that match at least 1 property <oil> <MAAS:New> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1442446>
[10:06] <mup> Bug #1442552 was opened: DHCP/DNS not syncing <canonical-bootstack> <MAAS:New> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1442552>
[10:12] <mup> Bug #1442552 changed: DHCP/DNS not syncing <canonical-bootstack> <MAAS:New> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1442552>
[10:18] <mup> Bug #1442552 was opened: DHCP/DNS not syncing <canonical-bootstack> <MAAS:New> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1442552>
[11:12] <mup> Bug #1442575 was opened: power_change_failure() does not handle NodeStateViolation and NoSuchNode <MAAS:Triaged> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1442575>
[14:01] <ravenpi> Good morning, all. As noted in https://bugs.launchpad.net/maas/+bug/1401703 , I have 15 nodes that I'm trying to deploy, and 2 of them correctly saw their 1 TB disks. The other 13 report 1 GB disks. Based on the discovered data (see link), I'm kind of assuming that MAAS "found" the PXE install partition -- either that, or the 1 GB is completely bogus. Is there a way to specify which drive to provision with?
[14:19] <mup> Bug #1423721 changed: prefix_filter for probe-and-enlist for virsh/esxi doesn't create nodes with the hostname equal to the domain name <MAAS:Won't Fix by mpontillo> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1423721>
[14:19] <mup> Bug #1442360 changed: 1.8b1: Cannot add machine Missing Power Type <oil> <ui> <MAAS:New> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1442360>
[15:29] <serverascode> anyone know why the install would be asking to continue without a default route?
[15:32] <ravenpi> Could you flesh out that question some? Install of what? Is it actually *asking* about a default route, or is it asking to continue, and you simply haven't added one? As I understand it, the clients don't care -- they get to use the MAAS master as a proxy (Squid, port 8000). The MAAS master, itself, probably needs one.
[15:33] <ravenpi> [Note that I'm far from an authority on this -- just bumped my toes against some of that stuff recently, and think -- hope -- I have an understanding of it.)
[15:34] <serverascode> when a node is started, it goes through the install procedure, but in my case I need to manually click yes to being ok with continuing without a default route
[15:35] <serverascode> I'm guessing that dfault route is supposed to come from maas somewhere...?
[15:35] <serverascode> perhaps something is misconfigured...just not sure what it would be
[15:35] <ravenpi> Oh. That, I don't know the answer to. :( Yeah, you're able to push the default route from MAAS. Lemme take a quick peek.
[15:36] <serverascode> not that they even need a default route...
[15:36] <ravenpi> Clusters -> Cluster Master -> click edit icon for interfaces -> Router IP
[15:38] <serverascode> ok yeah that makes sense, thanks ravenpi :)
[15:38] <ravenpi> Pleasure's mine!
[17:44] <mup> Bug #1442742 was opened: 1.8b2 Incorrect power on/off actions on node details <ui> <MAAS:New> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1442742>
[17:56] <mup> Bug #1442742 changed: 1.8b2 Incorrect power on/off actions on node details <ui> <MAAS:New> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1442742>
[17:59] <mup> Bug #1442742 was opened: 1.8b2 Incorrect power on/off actions on node details <ui> <MAAS:New> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1442742>
[17:59] <mup> Bug #1442746 was opened: 1.8b2 Add hardware journey not consistent with add devices <ui> <MAAS:New> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1442746>
[18:10] <saltlake> experts, I am looking for some help on deplying openstack: I knwo this is the problem in this area from the syslog http://pastebin.com/B5du7hDU.. exactly this like that deplyment starts but the controller node fails to get the results.. I just don't know what and I would very appreciate if anyone could throw some light on it. I think one problem coud be "if a node commissioned on the maas server has 2 NICs : Port
[18:10] <saltlake> 1->connected to provate network and Port 2 connecte to the public network... I was expecting Port 2 to get a dhcp address on the public LAN but don't see that happening .. What do I need to do for that ?
[18:15] <serverascode> hi all, how does one do classes of servers in maas? as in I want associate a disk layout with a particular class of servers
[18:20] <serverascode> saltlake: do you have any more logs, I'm no expert but I can't see anything that helps from those logs
[18:29] <mup> Bug #1442754 was opened: 1.8b2 No UI feedback on "power on" action <ui> <MAAS:New> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1442754>
[18:39] <saltlake> serverascode : Yes I have more of the syslog
[18:40] <saltlake> serverascode : http://pastebin.com/EdZW3dyv
[18:40] <saltlake> Any help on this would be so useful I am just unable tp proceed and stuck on what seems like something basic !!
[18:54] <serverascode> saltlake: and what is the problem your having exactly?
[18:55] <saltlake> serverascode : What happends is I start a juju boostrap on the maas controller node. On the maas web page I see one node change to "Deplying" and eventually it "Fails deplyment" and juju bootstrap after several minutes exits saying "Boot strapped but failed to deploy"
[18:56] <serverascode> but you can insatll nodes ok?
[18:56] <saltlake> serverascode : On the maas controller the 3 nodes aer successfully commisioned.
[18:57] <saltlake> serverascode : But juju bootstrap OR openstack-install with the landscape option both fail the same way.
[18:57] <serverascode> hmm, yeah I don't know anything about juju so I don't think I can help you there
[18:57] <saltlake> SO something is wrong with my setup.
[18:57] <saltlake> serverascode : Can you tell me if my network is setup properly though ?
[18:58] <serverascode> being able to commission is a good sign I suspect
[18:58] <saltlake> Each node is on 2 networks 1. private and commissioning is happening through this. 2. On the public network and I am wondering why this one does not get a dhcp address
[18:59] <saltlake> is there a guide you have handy to install openstack on ubuntu ?
[19:01] <serverascode> there are lots of guides including what's on the openstack site in terms of instlling on ubuntu 14.04
[19:01] <serverascode> http://docs.openstack.org/juno/install-guide/install/apt/content/
[19:07] <saltlake> serverascode : This does not use maas at all
[19:13] <saltlake> serverascode ; Just curious: Have you used the steps at http://docs.openstack.org/juno/install-guide/install/apt/content/ without maas and has it worked out ?
[19:24] <serverascode> saltlake: there are as many ways to install openstack as there are people :) yes I run openstack but don't use juju, but if you like juju then I think you should continue on, I just can't personally help you b/c I don't use juju
[19:28] <saltlake> serverascode : I have not got anything working with openstack and have no experience with it and am looking for the shortest path to success .. :-) thanks I will try your link now
[21:38] <mup> Bug #1442807 was opened: 1.8beta1: Attempting to release a node that's already releasing results in an error <oil> <MAAS:New> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1442807>
[22:07] <serverascode> anyone on how to add a class of hw to maas? is it done through the architecture somehow?
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2015-04-10-#ubuntu-fi
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[08:54] <Mikaela> huomenta
[08:54] <Mikaela> aika yksinkertaiselta tuo kyllä näyttää, kohta laitan tikulle tuon Ultimate Boot CD:n ja katson sanooko mikään sillä mitään. En ole vielä täysin varma kiintolevyn viallisuudesta, koska tuo on mennyt muutenkin jumiin asennuksien aikana, mutta se ensimmäinen asetusyritys valitti. Ja mietin myös pitäisikö tuolla olla SMART tuki.
[08:54] <Mikaela> Acer Aspire one ZG5 on ilmeisesti koko merkki ja malli
[08:56] <StockAntenna> ostat siihen sit SSD:n
[08:56] <StockAntenna> vapaakäyttis nauttii SSD:llä
[08:56] <StockAntenna> jos se on siis rikki
[09:03] <jjo> mun mielestä tuo kone ei ole elvyttämisen arvoinen jos siinä on rikkinäisiä osia
[09:03] <jjo> samalla vaivalla saa modernimpaa rautaa melkein samoin kustannuksin
[09:12] <Mikaela> täytyy vielä tutkia onko siinä rikkinäisiä osia. Ubuntu MATE-tikku sanoo itse olevansa virheetön, joten epäilykset siirtyvät koneeseen
[09:13] <mjr> sanooks esim. dmesg mitään siitä levystä kun sitä yrittää käyttää
[09:13] <mjr> levyvialta se kyl kuulostaa
[09:13] <Mikaela> täytyy katsoa seuraavalla kerralla, nyt alan kirjoittamaan tuota UBCD:tä tikulle
[09:21] <Mikaela> ja UBCD välkyttää valkoista _:aa, se ei siis ollut hybridi iso?
[09:24] <Mikaela> http://wiki.ultimatebootcd.com/?title=Tutorials:USB_Installation siltä vähän näyttää, aloitan isohybridillä ja jos se ei toimi niin taas vaihteeksi unetbootin
[09:26] <jjo> paljonko siinä koneessa muuten on muistia ja onhan se kunnossa?
[09:26] <Mikaela> 2,5GT muistaakseni ja uskoisin sen olevan kunnossa, mutta memtestin suorittaminen on myös hyvä ajatus
[09:28] <StockAntenna> jos muistit bugaa, roskiin koko laite
[09:30] <jjo> jos levy bugaa, roskiin koko laite
[09:30] <Mikaela> onko tuohon muistin testaukseen jotakin ohjettea miten tuota luetaan? https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MemoryTest ei sano minulle oikein mitään
[09:30] <jjo> ubuntun asennuslevyllä on vissiin tuo memtest oletuksena
[09:30] <Mikaela> minusta tuntuu, että muisti voisi olla järkevän hintaista, mutta tuo levy vaikutti kalliilta
[09:30] <Mikaela> on ja sitä ajankin, mutta en ymmärrä sitä niin paljon, kuin haluiaisin
[09:31] <jjo> jaa niin, se kopioi muistiin erilaisia patterneja ja lukee ne tarkistaakseen sen olevan oikein
[09:31] <jjo> jos siinä tulee virheitä, niin se tulostaa niitä siihen ruudulle
[09:34] <Mikaela> minne päin? Nyt se sanoo pass 36%
[09:36] <jjo> siihen ruudun alaosaan
[09:36] <Tekno_> päivää
[09:36] <jjo> tuo pass-prosentti on se kuinka suuri osa testistä on suoritettu
[09:37] <Mikaela> tällä hetkellä näyttää https://scontent-ams.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xta1/v/t1.0-9/11084271_809544545807027_1086727337726366829_n.jpg?oh=b1e84a8260f9d4a7701c353c7eb89819&oe=55E4AC7C
[09:37] <Mikaela> (anteeksi facebook, mutta tämä oli nopein tapa laittaa tuo kuva jonnekin puhelimesta)
[09:38] <Mikaela> ai tuossahan lukee selvästti "Errors 0" :)
[09:56] <StockAntenna> muistin vaihto ei paranna suorituskykyä yhtään, mut ssd laittaa koneeseen puhtia
[09:56] <StockAntenna> mut sehän näyttää onneksi olevan kunnossakin muistin puolesta
[09:59] <Mikaela> muisti on kunnossa, tuo on saanut kerran tehtyä kaikki testit ja mennyt läpi kerran, ei virheitä
[10:02] <Mikaela> noin, nyt kännistyy Ultimate Boot CD V5.3.3, isohybrid ♥
[10:06] <Mikaela> sitten jos vielä tietäisi kenen kiintolevy tuossa on sisällä, että osaisi ajaa oikeat työkalut
[10:08] <mjr> hdparm -I /dev/sda kertoo levyn tiedot
[10:08] <Mikaela> eli tikun vaihto, kiitos, kokeilen
[10:11] <Mikaela> Western Digitalilta näyttää, koska model number alkaa WDC ja Serial Number WD
[10:14] <Mikaela> hetkinen, nyt voin meielestäni varmasti sanoa, että vika on kiintolevyssä. Eilen se valitti ettei levy tue SMARTtia ja tänään SMART tuki on mystisesti löytynyt
[10:16] <Mikaela> nyt se tekee lyhyttä SMART testiä, joka on kuulema valmis ~10:18
[10:18] <Mikaela> noin, nyt voin sanoa, että kiintolevy on epäkunnossa
[10:18] <Mikaela> "SMART overall-health self-assesment test sresult: FIALED!" "Drive failure eexpected in less than 24 hours. SAVE ALL DATA."
[10:20] <elias_a> Juu. Lekaa päälle vain.
[10:48] <Mikaela> minusta tuntuu, että pyrin https://paste.mikaela.info/view/d67e8915 perusteella tekemään jotakin lisätestejä tuolla boot cd:llä. Leka päälle ei taida olla oikea ratkaisu tässä tai ehkä onkin, mutta jos tuon saisi jotenkin kuntoon. Tai levyä ei saa kuntoon vaihtamatta, mutta muuten...
[10:49] <Iltsu> Mikaela, katoiks sen mun linkkaaman videon, pitäs olla helppo vaihtaa ite
[10:50] <Mikaela> en katsonut kokonaan, mutta ymmärtääkseni se vaihto on vain avaamalla luukku pohjassa, ottamalla vanha pois ja uusi tilalle. Vaatii vain uuden hankkimisen ensin ellei tuosta löydy muuta vikaa
[10:52] <jjo> jaa siinä on vielä atom-prossukin
[10:53] <Mikaela> Mitä osia pystyy testaamaan helposti ohjelmisto tasolla? Kiintolevyn ja muistin ainakin, mutta muista. Mikään tuolla Boot CD:n CPU kohdassa ei vaikuta siltä, mitä etsin
[10:54] <Iltsu> kyl mä oon aika sata varma et se on toi levy mikä on rikki
[10:56] <Mikaela> minusta levy on myös aivan varmasti rikki, mutta voiko tässä olla jotakin muutakin?
[10:57] <Iltsu> millä perusteella sä epäilet et siin ois jotaan muuta?
[10:57] <jjo> aika harvoin koneista menee rikki muuta kuin (massa)muistit ja virtalähde
[10:57] <Iltsu> jollet sä sitä oo pudottanu
[10:57] <Iltsu> ja läppäreist hajoo aina runko :D:
[10:58] <jjo> siis itsekseen. ukkosen ja viallisen virtalähteen avulla saa helposti muutakin
[11:03] <Mikaela> en usko, että siinä olisi muuta vikaa, mutta jos varmistaisi vielä
[11:03] <Mikaela> kai virtalähteen olisi jo huomannut ja virtalähteen ainut vika on, että tuota laturia täytyy hiukan käännellä, ennen kuin se alkaa lataamaan
[11:03] <Mikaela> katselen vielä mitä työkaluja tämä tarjoaa ja sitten alan googlettelemaan levyjä
[11:05] <Mikaela> rungosta, tuossa rungossa on omituisia jälkiä, kannen yläosassa aukiollessa on reikä, joka on mahdollisesti tupakalla tehty, samoin näppäimessä 9 näyttää sulaneen muovi ja ctrl ja - myös sisältävät sellaisia, hiiren kosketuslevyssä voisi olla jokin ja kaksi on vieressä, mutta ne eivät näytä siltä, että vaikuttaisivat mihinkään
[11:07] <Mikaela> tuolla näyttäisi olevan jokin näppäimistötesti, joten jos kokeilisin sitä
[11:09] <Mikaela> näyttäisi toimivan
[11:24] <Mikaela> pitää kai katsoa koko tuo video, https://www.ifixit.com/Guide/Acer+Aspire+One+ZG5+Hard+Drive+Replacement/3784 näyttää aika pelottavalta ja jos se video sanoo, että se on helpompaa, pystyn siihen ehkä itse
[11:28] <Mikaela> katsoin nyt tuon videon https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VFnIVZn3Wqk kyllä pystyn tuohon itse, mutta tuossa linkissäni se irroittelee joka ikistä osaa
[11:34] <Mikaela> oikeastaan tuossa videossa on eri malli ja tämän luukut ovat ihan eri näköisiä, joten lisää googlettamista
[11:35] <Mikaela> ei, ne ohjeet ovat nuo joihin linkitin ja tuohon en pysty
[11:39] <StockAntenna> pahimmat ovat ne nykyajan litteät mallit missä koko kone pitää purkaa minkä tahansa komponentin vaihtoa varten
[11:39] <StockAntenna> ennen olivat luukut kiintolevylle ja muisteille
[11:40] <StockAntenna> aika sökönä se tuntuu olevan kun on tupakallakin poltettu sitä
[11:40] <Mikaela> eli olisiko parempi, että käsken etsimään uutta konetta?
[11:42] <elias_a> Mikaela: Tarkoitin, että sile kiintolevylle lekaa.
[11:42] <Mikaela> ai
[11:49] <Mikaela> minä annoin sille äidille nyt joitakin laskelmia ja se voi itse päättää yrittääkö hankkia tuohon uuden kiintolevyn ja vaihdon vai hankkiiko uuden, käyttämättömän koneen, jossa olisi myös takuu
[11:55] <pesasa> Onkos jollain muulla Chrome/Crhomium ollut rikki viime päivinä? Mulla hiiren kursori ei muutu allaolevan (teksti, linkki, jne.) mukaan. Vasta jotain hiiren nappulaa (tai rullaa) käyttämällä.
[11:55] <pesasa> Tuohon tyyliin: https://code.google.com/p/chromium/issues/detail?id=357347
[11:56] <pesasa> Lisäksi tekstin valitseminen hiirellä ei onnistu.
[12:00] <Mikaela> Ei ole näkynyt Chromella
[12:03] <pesasa> Voi tietty olla, että on jotain välissä olevasta Virtualboxistakin johtuvaa.
[12:05] <elias_a> pesasa: Mulla on natiivina 15.04 beta toista päivää, oli 14.10 vielä toissapäivänä, ei ole näkynyt tuota vikaa.
[12:06] <pesasa> Mullakin ollut nyt riesana vasta eilisestä lähtien. Tosin käytän yleensä Firefoxia, niin en ole varma, kauanko tuo vika on ollut.
[12:07] <pesasa> Ja voi tosiaan liittyä myös host-koneen lähiaikoina päivitettyyn Virtualboxiin.
[12:09] <elias_a> pesasa: Ajatko sä työkäytössä Ubuntua Virtualboxissa?
[12:11] <elias_a> pesasa: Minä taistelen tässä neljättä päivää videoeditoinnin kanssa.
[12:11] <elias_a> pesasa: Näyttää siltä, että MELT on jotenkin pahasti rikki matalalla tasolla. Eikös Openshot ja Kdenlive käytä molemmat sitä?
[12:12] <pesasa> elias_a: Joo. Mac-koneella.
[12:12] <pesasa> Tai Kubuntua, mutta samaa tavaraa.
[12:13] <elias_a> pesasa: Ok.
[12:13] <pesasa> Loppujen lopuksi ihan näppärää. Yksi Mac on jo hajonnut alta, mutta virtuaalikone siirtyi vaan seuraavaan ja matka jatkui. Nyt on kolmas kone meneillään.
[12:18] <elias_a> pesasa: Mitä? Meneekö omppukoneetkin joskus rikki? :P
[12:24] <pesasa> No, mieti ohuenohutta Airia, jota rontataan päivittäin repussa töihin ja kotiin sekä useamman kerran Viroon ja Ruotsiin plus kerran Lontooseen. Luultavasti tuon seurauksena näppäimistöön tuli jotain kontaktihäiriötä ja lähes koko qwertyuiop-rivi vaikeni.
[12:25] <pesasa> Koneen reunasta kun tietystä kohtaa painoi sormella, näppis toimi, muuten ei.
[12:25] <jjo> airilla virtualboxin ajaminen onkin jo aika hurja temppu
[12:25] <pesasa> jjo: Miksi?
[12:25] <jjo> koska siihen saa max 8 gigaa muistia
[12:26] <jjo> mulla se on loppunut ihan normikäytössäkin
[12:27] <pesasa> Kyllä mulle riitti ihan hyvin. Nykyisessä koneessa on sitten 16 GB muistia.
[12:27] <jjo> ja tällä hetkellä mulla on tällä (linux) koneella kaksi niukkaresurssita virtualboxia ajossa ja 16 gigaa ei meinaa riittää
[12:27] <pesasa> Toki tossa menee resursseja varmasti hukkaan, mutta...
[12:28] <jjo> mulla nuo virtualboxit ovat onneksi vaan testikäytössä, enkä edes yritä tehdä niillä mitään muuta
[12:33] <tale> Ei virtualisointi sanottavammin syö tehoja. Nykysuorittimissa ja emolevyissä on tuki, Intelillä VT-X ja AMD:llä joku toisen niminen.
[12:44] <StockAntenna> olenpas oldskool kun kotikäytössä koneessa on oltava yksi käyttis
[12:53] <jjo> tale: niin mutta muistia se syö
[14:57] <Mikaela> toisaalla ehdotettiin vielä tuolle netbookille käyttöjärjestelmän laittamista ulkoiselle kovalevylle, mitä yritän nyt. Tuo asennus menee kyllä nyt paljon pidemmällä kuin aiemmin eikä tuo ole vielä kaatunut.
[15:32] <Mikaela> Toimii. Ubuntun asennus on normaali asennus, jossa osiot vain tehdään ulkoiselle levylle ja grub/käynnistyslataaja asennetaan samalle levylle, /dev/sdc tässä tapauksessa. /dev/sda:lla ei ollut osiotaulua ja /dev/sdb oli muistitikku, jolta asensin
[15:49] <atalsta> Mikaela: Se levy oli sitten rikki?
[15:50] <Mikaela> kyllä, SMART tuki löytyi tänään aamulla ja se sanoi, että levy on rikki tai pettää 24:n tunnin sisällä
[15:53] <Mikaela> se olisi pitänyt osata päätellä jo siitä, ettei viimeyönä ollut SMART tukea ja tuo ei ole mikään niin vanha missä ei uskoisi olevankaan sitä
[15:58] <atalsta> Hyvä että asia selvisi vaikkei ihan toivotulla tavalla.
[16:01] <Mikaela> niin kai ja äitikin on kai tyytyväinen siihen, että voi käyttää tuota konetta ulkoiselta levyltä. Minä en näe tuossa muuta suorituskyky ongelmaa näin lyhyellä käytöllä, kuin, että päivitysten asentaminen on vähän hidasta
[16:56] <StockAntenna> onhan uspi kovin hidas
[16:58] <Echramath> Juu ja siinä on tuskin kauheasti muistiakaan mitä sitten voisi käyttää korvikkeena
[17:08] <pesasa> tale: Ei varmaan syö tehoja, mutta jos laitteessa on esim. tuo 8 gigaa muistia, niin ei sille virtuaalikoneelle sitä kaikkea saa. Siinä mielessä menee resursseja hukkaan, jos se virtuaalikone on kuitenkin se pääasiassa käytettävä järjestelmä. Myöskään näytön toiminta ei ole ihan yhtä tehokasta kuin natiivisti. Esim. flash-videot venyttävät toisinaan hiukan.
[17:36] <Mikaela> eiköhän se äiti pärjää tuolla jotenkuten. Ilmeisesti muistia löytyykin vain 1 gt ja Windows liioitteli
[17:42] <jjo> kuulostaa kyllä kaikkineen aika hyvältä diililtä
[18:43] <t529few> heippa, mulle ubuntu ehdottaa hirveesti päivityksiä, mitkä niistä kannattaa asentaa, kaikki tietoturvapäivityksetkö?
[18:44] <ninnnu> Ne kaikki on tietoturvapäivityksiä
[18:45] <ninnnu> tai no on siellä seassa kai vähän muutaki
[18:45] <ninnnu> mut tietomurhat on ihan hyvä alku jos on jotenkin heikosti verkkokapaa
[18:48] <t529few> verkkokapaa?
[18:48] <ninnnu> kaistaa
[18:48] <ninnnu> tai joku muu (hyvä) syy olla asentamatta kaikkia päivityksiä
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ubuntu-chat
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2024-05-13T22:11:11.061786
| 2015-04-10T00:00:00 |
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2015-04-10-#ubuntu-unity
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[08:37] <mivoligo> pete-woods: hi, dpm told me you are the man to ask about it: how can one remove stats from the usermetrics on the lock screen when he uninstalled an app which displayed it?
[08:39] <pete-woods> mivoligo: I think you can't at the moment. will add a bug for it
[08:42] <mivoligo> pete-woods: thanks, can it be done manually somehow?
[08:44] <pete-woods> mivoligo: well the database lives in /var/lib/usermetrics/usermetrics6.db
[08:44] <pete-woods> and the schema is reasonably straightforwards
[08:45] <mivoligo> pete-woods: thanks
[08:46] <pete-woods> mivoligo: select * from "usermetricsservice::datasource";
[08:46] <pete-woods> to figure out the ID of the data source you want to remove
[08:47] <pete-woods> mivoligo: then purge the related data for that userData_id from "usermetricsservice::dataset"
[08:47] <pete-woods> then remove the entry from datasource
[09:32] <mivoligo> pete-woods: is it save to just remove usermetrics6.db file?
[09:39] <pete-woods> mivoligo: yes, but then you will lose all your metrics
[09:39] <pete-woods> if that's no problem for you then it's the easiest option
[09:43] <mivoligo> pete-woods: thanks, it is actually for someone who used my app, uninstalled it and sent me an email how to remove stats about it from the circle. I'm not sure if he's technical enough to do what you mentioned before :)
[09:59] <larsu> we should probably just not show stats from uninstalled apps (but keep them around for when someone reinstalls?)
[10:01] <mivoligo> I would vote for that ^
[10:23] <pete-woods> yeah, that sounds like the best thing to do
[10:23] <pete-woods> will get that implemented when I have the chance
[12:32] <Saviq> mterry, thanks for clearing up DEB_... can a debian/rules make it so that parallel is not respected btw?
[12:33] <mterry> Saviq, because of the comma? The usual check code that is copy/pasted in most debian/rules should allow both
[12:34] <mterry> Saviq, but I do remember hitting some piece of check code somewhere that didn't like commas. And that's how I discovered that spaces are correct :)
[12:34] <Saviq> mterry, nope, regardless, UITK doesn't seem to respect parallel= or -j on dpkg-buildpackage
[12:35] <mterry> Saviq, I think parallel building is an opt-in thing for packages -- because it so often breaks on packages that don't expect it
[14:03] <elopio> ping kgunn: we have scheduled a meeting right now. Do you want to meet to talk about our cards in your backlog, or are you ok with the information they have?
[14:09] <kgunn> elopio: otp
[21:30] <dandrader> mterry, just read your comment on https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/unity8/+bug/1321161
[21:30] <dandrader> mterry, what's the "welcome screen"?
[21:30] <dandrader> mterry, is it the greeter (that thing with the round infographics)?
[21:30] <mterry> dandrader, yeah
[21:31] <dandrader> mterry, you cannot drag it with two fingers
[21:31] <dandrader> mterry, it only accepts single-finger drags
[21:33] <dandrader> mterry, but after the single-finger drag has started, you can add as many fingers as you want since those new ones will be ignored
[21:33] <mterry> dandrader, sure... well dragging with two fingers used to have that buggy behavior. And you can still confuse it by "swapping fingers" like I describe in my comment
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ubuntu-chat
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2024-05-13T22:11:11.067930
| 2015-04-10T00:00:00 |
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2015-04-10-#ubuntustudio
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[00:36] <starwind> Can anyone point me to any good guide/documentation on setting up midi keyboards in linux? Just got an Alesis QX25, but having issues getting it to do anything in ubuntu-studio
[01:08] <holstein> starwind: its likely already "working"
[01:09] <holstein> starwind: what i suggest is, just learn to use the system, generally.. learn to configure jack, and see if USB devices are present in linux
[01:09] <starwind> Yeah, I need to learn more about Jack. I finally got some sound out of it just now using phasex with jack midi in and alsa out.
[01:09] <starwind> Just not getting jack setup quite how it should
[01:10] <holstein> you really shouldnt need to do anything other than, get jack running, open something like yoshimi, and "route" the midi keyboard to the midi in's on yoshimi, and the audio outputs on yoshimi to the sound card
[07:20] <masterbootrecord> hi all
[07:21] <masterbootrecord> just looking for some guidance on installing ubuntustudio metas and packages into debian 7.8..?
[07:23] <cfhowlett> masterbootrecord, probably better to ask #debian
[07:24] <masterbootrecord> hehe, maybe, assumed better to ask here first as debian users unlikely to know repos for ubuntustudio package files etc
[07:25] <cfhowlett> masterbootrecord, you need debian support for importing non-debian packages
[07:28] <masterbootrecord> hmmm, fair enough, so not just able to add ubnstudio repos to my sources.list and hope apt has no depency resolution issues? Jumping on debian channel to ask also...
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ubuntu-chat
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2024-05-13T22:11:11.071533
| 2015-04-10T00:00:00 |
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2015-04-10-#ubuntu-us-pa
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[09:30] <rmg51> Morning
[11:38] <JonathanD> Morning.
[12:12] <teddy-dbear> Morning peoples and whatever else is around
[17:17] <ChinnoDog> Do I want to upgrade to 14.10?
[17:24] <teddy-dbear> stay with the LTS
[17:25] <teddy-dbear> no need to do the 6 month thing
[17:28] <ChinnoDog> Who should upgrade then?
[17:32] <teddy-dbear> those who really want to
[17:33] <teddy-dbear> and don't mind doing it every 6 months
[17:41] <ChinnoDog> I was considering it to get better hardware support but I see Vivid is scheduled for release in 13 days anyway.
[17:41] <lazyPower> typically when you want to a) test new features b) get the hw support that hasn't been backported yet c) ride the rolling six month nuke/repave mantra
[17:41] <lazyPower> ssweeny: sound about right? ^
[17:41] <ChinnoDog> I don't want to wipe and start over. That is too much work.
[17:42] <lazyPower> ChinnoDog - do you practice Configuration Management?
[17:42] <pleia2> ChinnoDog: the LTS versions have HWE (HardWare Enablement stack) that updates kernels and things for new hardware https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kernel/LTSEnablementStack
[17:42] <lazyPower> i've gotten this down to a science where i can be back to the state my machine was in prior to a reinstall about an hour after i plug in the USB key
[17:42] <pleia2> so you can use the 14.10 kernel with 14.04
[17:43] <lazyPower> Right, there's *some* oddball stuff tahts still in HWE testing that sits for a bit but they eventuallyt rickle back down
[17:43] <lazyPower> Typically every HWE cut has everything from -TESTING back down.
[17:44] <pleia2> I've had good luck with it
[17:44] <lazyPower> unless im' grossly misinformed
[17:44] <pleia2> I think you're right
[17:45] <ChinnoDog> I'm already using the newer kernel. I didn't run the command on that page but I did install and am running on linux-generic-lts-utopic
[17:45] <pleia2> ah
[17:45] <pleia2> the other ones upgrade your graphics stuff, what you want depends on what hardware you're trying to support
[17:46] <ChinnoDog> I tried to run the full command on that page just now but apt tells me there are unmet dependencies.
[17:47] * waltman still hasn't upgraded his linode because he's worried about breakage
[17:48] <ChinnoDog> oh. The xserver-xorg-lts-utopic package probably doesn't work because I am using xorg-edgers
[17:49] <ChinnoDog> I was trying to resolve nVidia graphics problems. I never did get it resolved so I guess I could remove the nvidia drivers and that repo and then run that command.
[20:23] <ChinnoDog> lazyPower: How do you restore your machine to its previous state in an hour?
[20:35] <lazyPower> ChinnoDog: i have ansible scripts that setup my workstation, and restore my projects from git/my-nas, et-al.
[20:36] <ChinnoDog> How do you reconfigure Ubuntu to your liking? Back up package list from apt? What about /etc?
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ubuntu-chat
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2024-05-13T22:11:11.077016
| 2015-04-10T00:00:00 |
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2015-04-10-#ubuntu-gr
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[07:04] <Theo> Καλημερα σας και χρονια πολλα...Ειμαι καινουριος στο Ubuntu και μαλλον δεν εκανα κατι σωστα στην εγκατασταση...Μηπως μπορει κάποιος φιλος/η να με βοηθησει?
[08:36] <Tassos> Καλημέρα :)
[09:32] <StrP1> Kalimera, kali anastasi
[12:58] <Euaki> Νέα από ubuntugrforum: Νέα - Ειδήσεις - Ανακοινώσεις | Re: Παρουσίαση στο Λονδίνο του πρώτου Ubuntu phone <https://forum.ubuntu-gr.org/viewtopic.php?p=326706#p326706>
[16:12] <Tassos> όποιος γνωρίζει από το Qt αν μπορεί, παρακαλώ πολύ, να με βοηθήσει στο εξής..
[16:12] <Tassos> έχω φτιάξει δύο διαφορετικά παράθυρα που το κυρίως καλεί ένα ακόμη τέλος πάντων
[16:13] <Tassos> το πρόβλημα μου είναι πως θέλω να δημιουργήσω ένα αντικείμενο το οποίο να έχει εμβέλεια σε όλο μου το πρόγραμμα
[16:14] <Tassos> και να μπορώ να το περνάω σαν παράμετρο σε κάποιο παράθυρο ( να μπορεί και το δευτερεύον παράθυρο να το χρησιμοποιεί )
[16:14] <Tassos> και εδώ είναι που κολλάω
[16:15] <Tassos> πως να φτιάξω ένα αντικείμενο μιας κλάσης ( που έχω υλοποιήσει εγώ ) στο κυρίως πρόγραμμα και να μπορούν όλα τα παράθυρα να την χρησιμοποιούν
[16:16] <Tassos> έχω σκεφτεί να το κάνω global αλλά δε νομίζω πως είναι και ότι καλύρερο
[19:45] <jennie> Hi! Μήπως θα μπορούσα να ζητήσω λίγη βοήθεια για το remmina ή remote desktop γενικά;
[19:48] <talos-mintgr> geia
[19:49] <talos-mintgr> Δεν το δουλέυω πολύ, αλλά ρίχτο
[19:50] <jennie> Έχω δύο υπολογιστές με ubuntu 14.04
[19:50] <jennie> Έχω καταφέρει να χρησιμοποιήσω το remmina εντός του τοπικού δικτύου, δηλαδή τη διεύθυνση 192.168.1.4
[19:51] <jennie> Αλλά θέλω να καταφέρω να δω τον δεύτερο υπολογιστή ακόμη και αν δεν είναι στο ίδιο δίκτυο.
[19:52] <talos-mintgr> Κοιτα ενας υπολογιστης με διεύθυνση 192.168.1.4 δεν είναι κομάτι στου internet
[19:52] <jennie> Βρήκα την public ip μου, και την έβαλα στο remmina, αλλά αυτό δε λειτουργεί
[19:52] <talos-mintgr> H public IP ειναι αυτη του router. Πίσω μπορεί να έχει πχ 5 υπολογιστες.
[19:53] <talos-mintgr> Σε ποιον θα συνδεθεί?
[19:53] <jennie> Δεν ξέρω;
[19:53] <talos-mintgr> Θα πρέπει λοιπόν να αντιστοιχήσεις τον υπολογιστή που το τρεχει στο router σε μια πόρτα
[19:53] <jennie> Συνήθως είναι μόνο ένα desktop συνδεδεμένο.
[19:54] <talos-mintgr> Θα πρέπει να στησεις και κάποιο dyndns
[19:54] <jennie> Αλλά τώρα είναι και οι δύο υπολογιστές.
[19:54] <talos-mintgr> Δηλαδή θα πρέπει να ξέρεις 1-2 πραγματακια (οχι τρελά για δίκτυα)
[19:54] <talos-mintgr> Αλλά ευτυχώς υπάρχει και μια άλλη λύση
[19:55] <talos-mintgr> ενα εμπορικό προγραμματάκι που λέγετε teamviewer
[19:55] <talos-mintgr> Με αυτό κάνεις την δουλέια σου άμεσα
[19:55] <jennie> Αυτό είναι για windows;
[19:55] <talos-mintgr> Ναι
[19:55] <jennie> Δηλαδή μέσω wine;
[19:56] <talos-mintgr> Υπάρχει και για linux
[19:56] <talos-mintgr> http://www.teamviewer.com/el/download/linux.aspx
[19:57] <jennie> Οκ, ευχαριστώ, θα το κοιτάξω λίγο και θα ξαναπροσπαθήσω
[19:58] <talos-mintgr> Με αυτο θα κάνεις δουλειά. Αν θες σου λέω για το remmina αλλά δεν στο συνυστώ
[19:59] <jennie> Το είχα δει όταν έψαχνα στο ίντερνετ, αλλά είχα μείνει με την εντύπωση ότι ήταν για windows και δεν το είχα κοιτάξει καθόλου. Για να δούμε
[20:14] <jennie> Ok. Όντως, μια χαρά δούλεψε! Ευχαριστώ πολύ για τη βοήθεια
[20:14] <talos-mintgr> ωραία!
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ubuntu-chat
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2024-05-13T22:11:11.091482
| 2015-04-10T00:00:00 |
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2015-04-10-#ubuntu-community-team
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[07:38] <davidcalle> Good morning o/
[07:47] <czajkowski> aloha
[08:00] <dpm> morning all o/
[08:01] <elfy> morning dpm
[08:01] <dpm> hey elfy
[08:02] <dpm> morning dholbach, quick q: what was the status of deploying the help app html to help.u.c?
[08:11] <popey> morning
[08:14] <dholbach> dpm, it's still blocked by IS - some part of help.u.c needs redeployment and some apache reconfiguration changes - they believe it's an "S" sized task, ("hopefully not 'M'")
[08:15] <dholbach> for some reason does xchat not save the backlog reliably or I'd give you Spads' exact words
[08:16] <popey> dholbach: which channel?
[08:16] <dholbach> #is
[08:17] <popey> cant see it.
[08:17] <popey> nvm
[08:28] <dpm> dholbach, thanks. Can you remind me about the RT number?
[08:33] <dholbach> sure
[08:34] <dholbach> I can't find the trello card though :)
[08:34] <dholbach> balloons, about the askubuntu integration: did we ever decide on what exactly needs to be done?
[08:34] <dholbach> it's not quite clear to me
[13:59] * davidcalle grabs coffee before meeting
[14:01] <balloons> dholbach, ohh for askubuntu, umm.. We tentatively thought we would handle the offline more easily answerable questions, and then point folks at askubuntu for harder stuff. We *could* attempt to pull in tagged questions from askubuntu into the app, however I think I shied away from that idea
[14:03] <davidcalle> balloons, watch out for stackoverflow API rate limiting, the scope eventually failed because of that
[14:05] <balloons> davidcalle, ahh nice. Another reason to not pursue it
[14:11] <dholbach> balloons, can we massage this into a separate user story maybe?
[14:11] <dholbach> ... until we know what we exactly want to do?
[14:16] <balloons> dholbach, I'm thinking I don't want it anymore.. I would simply remove it
[14:17] <dholbach> let's!
[15:00] * dholbach will be off to another hippie meeting in a bit
[15:08] <popey> \o/
[15:51] <dholbach> hey jono
[15:51] <dholbach> how's life over there?
[15:55] <dholbach> all right my friends... I call it a day - have a great weekend everyone!
[15:56] <popey> o/
[17:55] <czajkowski> popey: when on the phoen you go to Apps
[17:55] <czajkowski> why is the apps store at the bottom of the page
[17:55] <czajkowski> surely closer to the top would make more logical sense ?
[17:56] <popey> you can get to it various ways, that's just one
[17:56] <czajkowski> popey: one more q then I'll leave you be
[17:56] <popey> I suspect that will change
[17:56] <czajkowski> when you search for someething in the app store on the phone
[17:56] <czajkowski> and it's not there it doesnt tell you
[17:56] <czajkowski> just remains blank or am I missing something
[17:56] <czajkowski> went looking for kapman
[17:57] <czajkowski> but if you search for it - nothing is shown I'd expect to get some sort of this isn't here or app unknown
[18:00] <popey> lemme try
[18:01] <popey> I'll file a bug
[18:03] <czajkowski> popey: :)
[18:03] <czajkowski> thank you
[18:03] <czajkowski> popey: or join us at the pub where I can continue to find stuff
[18:03] <czajkowski> I'm nice like that
[18:03] <czajkowski> popey: one more I promise...
[18:03] <czajkowski> if I install an app in the SWC can I tweet out that I've it installed like a share this in a way to tell people what app I'm using on my phone
[18:04] <popey> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/unity-scope-click/+bug/1442750
[18:04] <popey> no, no way to do that right now
[18:04] <czajkowski> okie dokie thank you
[18:05] <czajkowski> I promise I'll stop now
[18:05] <czajkowski> I actually have time to play with the phone hence the questions
[18:05] <popey> hah
[18:05] <popey> feel free anytime
[18:06] <popey> if I am afk, poke me on telegram
[18:06] <czajkowski> oh not installed that
[18:06] <popey> its preinstalled on ubuntu phone :)
[18:06] <czajkowski> how do I add things to the side bar
[18:06] <czajkowski> as I really want to get more things there
[18:06] <czajkowski> to stop me wanting my back arrow
[18:06] <czajkowski> also why on the Toda screen does it keep asking me to review my google settings
[18:07] <czajkowski> popey: we need another co working day where I can ask you questions
[18:07] <popey> heh
[18:08] <czajkowski> bah that's naff
[18:08] <czajkowski> you click telegram
[18:08] <czajkowski> and go hit your number for the country
[18:08] <czajkowski> and you have to scroll the whole way down
[18:08] <czajkowski> no way to enter it United to make it go to the bottom
[18:08] <czajkowski> no keyboard pop up :(
[18:08] <popey> or just type it in
[18:09] <popey> you don't have to scroll, just put 44 in the left box czajkowski
[18:09] <czajkowski> popey: come to the pup we're in the Drummond
[18:09] <popey> hah
[18:09] <czajkowski> tom dom niki and even Jon
[18:10] <popey> not sure I'm prepared for the abuse :)
[18:10] <czajkowski> welcome to my world!
[18:10] <czajkowski> tomorrow is loading the skip and dumoing the kitchen
[18:12] <popey> no pub for me tonight, sorry
[18:12] <popey> need to go out and get some nibbles and wine
[18:12] <czajkowski> popey: how do I make it scroll like you did
[18:12] <popey> make what scroll?
[18:12] <czajkowski> flip through apps like
[18:12] <czajkowski> horizontally
[18:12] <popey> pull in from the right
[18:12] <popey> from off the screen
[18:12] <czajkowski> gotcha
[18:16] <popey> click "skip and setup later" in today?
[18:18] <czajkowski> ahhh
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2015-04-10-#ubuntu-hr
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[04:26] <Vlado9A3CY> dobro jutro
[06:22] <Mmike> BotaniCar, veli mi zena da se vidimo u maksimiru sjutra
[06:24] <BotaniCar> Jel ? Kad ?
[06:24] <BotaniCar> I, bas mije drago
[06:24] <BotaniCar> mije ije :)
[06:24] <BotaniCar> BEBA LUKAAA Flja flja :)
[06:24] <BotaniCar> Sad ce me Filip zicat' da slike gledamo :D
[06:25] <SilverSpace> jutro
[06:26] <SilverSpace> ha jutros dropbox radi
[06:30] <SilverSpace> kimi dobar dobar
[06:32] <SilverSpace> merc i dalje vrh
[06:33] <Mmike> SilverSpace, same old :)
[06:34] <Mmike> BotaniCar, nemam pojma, sutra :) kad vam vise pase, vjutro il' popodne?
[06:42] <Mmike> nda
[06:42] <Mmike> nije crko rba
[06:42] <Mmike> nego meni internet
[06:43] <SilverSpace> :)
[06:44] <SilverSpace> Mmike: sve po starom
[06:44] <SilverSpace> jos mi izgledaju mercedesi jaci
[06:45] <BotaniCar> Mmike: mislim da imamo slanu sobu od 9 do 9:30 , nakon toga moze kaj hoces ; daj mi 3 minute da se provjerim
[06:47] <BotaniCar> Mmike: jel vam odgovara 11 ? Do onda bi vec trebalo zatopliti
[06:47] <Mmike> BotaniCar, nemrem ti ja to tak :)
[06:47] <Mmike> BotaniCar, najbolje da mi sa zenom na fejsbuku dogovoris
[06:47] <BotaniCar> OK, kak mozes ?
[06:47] <Mmike> ja i tak sam idem okolo i vozim ih :)
[06:47] <Mmike> sutra si kupujem bicikl!
[06:48] <BotaniCar> Nabijem te, meni bi bilo najbolje da ti dogovoris s mojom , i ja volim biti kofer :)
[06:49] <BotaniCar> Nish, tipkam Postovanu Gospoju :)
[06:53] <vileni> Mmike: kona? :)
[06:53] <vileni> ja sam jucer gumu popravio, ventil je pustao
[07:24] <SilverSpace> BotaniCar: kakva setnja maksimirom treba delat ne setat :)
[07:24] <jelly> pa da, setnja i sluzi tome da pametnije radis poslije
[07:31] <BotaniCar> SilverSpace: kaj se ti peMzic javljas ? :D
[07:31] <vileni> hm, preporuka za hranu u nzg?
[07:32] <BotaniCar> Ima u savskom gaju jedna gablaon, ne znam ime .. pre super
[07:32] <vileni> BotaniCar: jel znas adresu barem? ili neki hint :)
[07:32] <BotaniCar> A znas kolki je savski gaj :) Udjes i vidis ju :)
[07:33] <vileni> BotaniCar: lako za to da idem sam :)
[07:33] <BotaniCar> ah :) Do kad trebas info ?
[07:34] <BotaniCar> Idem felixa ulovit' na FB, on je u Trnskom doma, mora znat' bolje objasnit'
[07:36] <vileni> sad gledam di je druga sofra
[07:40] <BotaniCar> vileni: veli felix da su to kaj sam htio preporuciti zaprli, ali je tipnul nekaj drugo, samo da jebomepasnem :)
[07:41] <BotaniCar> http://jebo.me/pas/2
[07:41] <BotaniCar> Veli da je sofra u borovju
[07:42] <vileni> da, ali kad odes na sofra.hr pise samo green gold
[07:43] <vileni> aha, druga je restoransofra.hr
[07:43] <BotaniCar> http://www.restoransofra.com/gdje_smo.html ?
[07:44] <BotaniCar> Nda, i http://jebo.me/pas/9
[07:44] <vileni> BotaniCar: da, to je borovje, a sofra.hr je greengold :)
[07:45] <vileni> BotaniCar: i to sam gledao, ali reviewi u zadnje vrijeme nisu nesto
[07:45] <BotaniCar> Tja, ja bu'm felixu vjeroval vise nego nepoznatom_nekom :D
[07:47] <vileni> BotaniCar: a nije samo to, pratim topic na jednom forumu koji ima 400 stranica vec o klopi u hr od ljudi koji imaju puno vise para za isprobavanje :)
[07:48] <BotaniCar> Ljudi koji ispisu 400str o tome kak imaju para da jedu vani :) Right :) Velim, prije vjerujem covjeku koji u principu preferira jest doma/kod nekog, nego nekom takvom :) No, tvoj tibek, tvoja briga :D
[07:49] <vileni> pa i ja volim jesti doma
[07:49] <vileni> stovise, vise volim kuhati nego jesti vani
[07:49] <BotaniCar> A, reci, puno pises reviewove ? :D
[07:50] <vileni> jedan sam napisao
[07:50] <BotaniCar> My point exactly
[07:50] <vileni> samo je stvar da ja ne pisem ni kad imam sto za reci
[07:50] <vileni> jer mi se neda
[07:50] <BotaniCar> Pa, da ! :)
[07:50] <vileni> jer ce ljudi uzeti za pravo komentirati kad nemaju nikakve osnove
[07:50] <BotaniCar> To je mindframe covjeka kojem se moze vjerovati :D
[07:51] <vileni> ali stvar je da na temelju komentara ljudi koje ionako znam kroz druge topice mogu procijeniti tko od njih sere bezveze
[07:51] <vileni> a tko zna sto valja
[07:52] <vileni> a toliko puta su me neki random vodili na kao dobru hranu, da bi ispalo da iz pristojnosti mozes samo reci da je jestivo
[07:52] <BotaniCar> Eto, ipak se na poznate oslanjas, moj jedini dodatni kriterij je da moraju biti lijeni :D
[07:52] <SilverSpace> BotaniCar: ne javljam se gunđam
[07:52] <vileni> BotaniCar: a "poznato" je relativno, to je moja procjena ljudi :)
[07:52] <SilverSpace> :)
[07:53] <vileni> ali recimo kad buraz kaze da mu je nesto dobro, to znas da je dobro
[07:53] <vileni> jer covjek skoro pa mrzi hranu
[07:53] <BotaniCar> :)))))))))))))))))
[07:54] <vileni> kad pricamo o hrani u drustvu njemu to isto kao da zene pricaju o modi
[07:55] <obruT> 9:34 < BotaniCar> Idem felixa ulovit' na FB, on je u Trnskom doma, mora znat' bolje objasnit'
[07:55] <obruT> jel on jos ziv ?
[07:55] <obruT> nema ga nigdje
[07:57] <BotaniCar> obruT: vise ziv nego zdrav, invaliditet ga hebe, debe je pa mu je tesko ikam. Ode do kvarta na kavu i to je to vise-manje. Isao je do Savske :)
[07:57] <BotaniCar> Ali tamo , pak, tebe nema !! :D
[07:58] <BotaniCar> https://fbcdn-sphotos-c-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xap1/v/t1.0-9/11138531_1224483050914479_443226033905629172_n.jpg?oh=d11f1915b6cc84662802584521780671&oe=55A09E75&__gda__=1441003433_c611a452bb3de34f36096b24085f5089
[07:59] <BotaniCar> I , naravno, https://fbcdn-sphotos-a-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xft1/v/t1.0-9/11082577_10203277352168469_8249214329372904595_n.jpg?oh=c4b0d5cf1349d00b2ab00c5f8cb52ced&oe=55E2FC76&__gda__=1435973508_fe5e83478743690e2b40eb49ddcc0b41
[08:00] <BotaniCar> "people in sleeping bags are tacos of bear world" :)
[08:01] <SilverSpace> http://www.vecernji.hr/felix/2015-04-10
[08:03] <Mmike> vileni: kona, da, ona, 'losa', u ocima vas, majstora biciklatora :)
[08:05] <Mmike> vileni: di hrana koja hrana? :)
[08:16] <Mmike> BotaniCar: di je antunovic u sesvetama, prije ili poslije sesveta, kad ides iz zagreba?
[08:18] <BotaniCar> Imam Antunovica u Sesvetama ? :9
[08:18] <Mmike> da, benzinsku
[08:19] <Mmike> naso
[08:19] <Mmike> tam kad prodjes autoput
[08:20] <SilverSpace> neudobna kona 26"
[08:21] <vileni> Mmike: pa nije toliko "losa" samo kazem, mozes dobiti i bolju opremu od te :)
[08:21] <vileni> Mmike: a hrana nema, osim ako smislis nesto jeftino za rucak :P
[08:22] <Mmike> vileni: di
[08:22] <Mmike> mislim, di mogu dobiti bolju opremu?
[08:22] <vileni> Mmike: sad se vise svelo na kada, posto je sezona pocela :)
[08:23] <Mmike> kak mislis?
[08:23] <vileni> Mmike: i koliko je ono bila kona?
[08:23] <Mmike> 2700 kuna
[08:23] <vileni> uf
[08:24] <vileni> :)
[08:24] <Mmike> nema bolje ponude od toga za novi bajk
[08:24] <Mmike> fakat nema
[08:24] <SilverSpace> jebote kaj je kinez brz prije deset minuta na ebay kupio adapter i kinez vec poslao :)
[08:24] <vileni> Mmike: pa kad je rasprodano sve sa zimskih akcija
[08:24] <Mmike> to kaj oprema nije deore jebare nego je samo drkare je tak manje bitno za mene
[08:24] <Mmike> pa velis da se moze dobit bolja oprema
[08:24] <Mmike> reko, di se moze dobit
[08:24] <Mmike> ja nisam nasao
[08:24] <Mmike> ima na njuskalu
[08:25] <Mmike> al' ono, to je 3k kuna, ili 3k5 kuna, i nije u zg, nego je pitaj boga di, i onda kad dodjem tamo i vidim da nije bas tak kak je...
[08:25] <vileni> ma njuskalo zaboravi :)
[08:25] <vileni> to bas moras imati zivaca i znanja
[08:25] <Mmike> neda mi se, ovak za 2700 imam novi bajk, a ak uleti dobar bajk na njuzima ili negdje, lako kupim
[08:25] <Mmike> vileni: pa, zadnje 2 kone sam kupio tamo
[08:25] <Mmike> lazem, zadnju samo
[08:25] <vileni> a sto se tice opreme, tak svejedno, ja sam na biciklu od 500kn vise km napravio nego na ktm :)
[08:25] <Mmike> upravo o tom se radi
[08:26] <Mmike> mogu ja sad cekat jos 2-3 tjedna i filozofirat da cu usparat 300 kuna a dobit opremu za 800 kuna
[08:26] <Mmike> i za to vrijeme trbuscic samo raste a sise bujaju
[08:26] <Mmike> kak je krenulo moci cu sisama po guvernalu mlatarat bez da se nagnem
[08:26] <BotaniCar> /me se insta-napalio
[08:26] <Mmike> tako da, kupuje se kona u ciklocentru za 2700 kuna :)
[08:26] <BotaniCar> i jos cu te sutra vidjet u zivo ! :)
[08:27] <Mmike> JEDINI bed mi je kaj je 21", a ne 22", al' svi me uvjeravaju da bi meni i 20" moralo bit ok
[08:28] <vileni> Mmike: pa koliko si visok?
[08:28] <vileni> 21 je za 185+ afaik
[08:29] <Mmike> pa tak
[08:29] <Mmike> 185
[08:29] <Mmike> 183
[08:29] <Mmike> tu negdje :)
[08:30] <Mmike> prva kona je bila 20", i ta je bila malcice na knap - kad bi sic digao dovoljno visoko da mogu pedalirat normalno, pre jako bi bio sagnut prema napred
[08:30] <SilverSpace> https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/966116/f1drugitrening.png
[08:30] <SilverSpace> no da kimi
[08:33] <SilverSpace> Mmike: ja imam 20" i bio mi je malo volan nizak i uzeo novi volan koji je ima malo savinutu cijev volana orginal bila ravna i sad je super za tih nekih 4-5 cm vise
[08:33] <Mmike> SilverSpace: kol'ko si ti visok?
[08:33] <SilverSpace> 182
[08:35] <vileni> mislim da volan/lulica kombinacija vise utjecu tu nego velicina okvira
[08:35] <vileni> stovise, manji okvir bi ti vise pasao jer bi ti blize bio volan
[08:36] <SilverSpace> Mmike: i obavezno si uzmi ovakav grip https://keindl-sport.hr/gripovi-rfr-comfort-rohloff-nexus-nuvinci-proizvod-5888/#variationdetail5888_12883
[08:36] <SilverSpace> preporodio se rucni zglobovi ne pate
[08:37] <vileni> ja imam takav ali jos ima mali rog prema gore
[08:37] <SilverSpace> vileni: nije problem malo podici
[08:38] <SilverSpace> vileni: aha znam
[08:38] <SilverSpace> ne volim te rogove
[08:38] <vileni> http://www.rog-joma.hr/oprema_detalj.php?i=11896
[08:38] <vileni> to
[08:38] <SilverSpace> ni male ni velike
[08:38] <vileni> meni su taman, bolji od obicnih
[08:39] <SilverSpace> uh ovo nisam vidio
[08:39] <SilverSpace> izgleda odlicno
[08:40] <SilverSpace> okrugli grip mi ne valja pati rucni zglob
[08:40] <vileni> meni je izgledalo bezveze na pocetku jer sam htio isto bez rogova i bez tog oslonca
[08:40] <vileni> na kraju ispalo genijalno, i cura komentira isto kako su super i da bi ona na svoj te :)
[08:41] <vileni> odvedem bicikl serviseru, i vidim 2 takva na stolu cekaju ugradnju
[08:42] <SilverSpace> moj je bio ovakav https://keindl-sport.hr/volan-rfr-standard-254x620x5-black-13420-proizvod-12305/#variationdetail12305_26973
[08:42] <SilverSpace> i zamjeni da bi podigo ovim https://keindl-sport.hr/volan-mtb-zoom-620-x-318-x-30-proizvod-1773/#variationdetail1773_3654
[08:42] <SilverSpace> taman toliko mi falilo
[08:45] <SilverSpace> vileni: ja sa iz engleske za cube narucio dva gripa okrugla razlicita i jedan doso ono kaj sam htio drugi mi poslatli skuplji taj sa osloncem kaj uopce nisam narucio valjda nisu imali onaj pa mi poslali ovaj
[08:45] <SilverSpace> i dugo drzao u kutiji dok nisam potrgao okrugli
[08:45] <SilverSpace> i reko da probam
[08:45] <SilverSpace> preporodio se
[08:45] <SilverSpace> reko vis budale
[08:49] <SilverSpace> NAVLAKE KORMILA lol
[08:49] <SilverSpace> jucer sam sic promjenio
[10:10] <weshmashian> mornin'
[11:13] <BotaniCar> 'el kupovao tko kad s banggood ? Zadovoljni ?
[11:14] <Mmike> poriluk za rucak!
[11:14] <Mmike> mmm
[11:14] <obruT> bang good ? :)
[11:14] <BotaniCar> D da :)
[11:14] <obruT> pa da me zena ubije :)
[11:15] <BotaniCar> KUPIO SI DILDO, A NIKAD GA NISAM DOBILA ! ZA KOGA JE?!!1
[11:15] <obruT> jel sajt sfw ?
[11:16] <BotaniCar> Je, mobitel sam gledao :D
[11:16] <obruT> mobitel ? :) svasta ljude pali :)
[11:16] <BotaniCar> Pa na cem ti u WCu gledas pornice ?
[11:16] <BotaniCar> tablet mi je nespretan za drzanje jednom rukom :D
[11:21] <obruT> cek, imas tablet, a nemas u wc-u drzac za njega ? :)
[11:21] <BotaniCar> ne, WC papir mi je situiran s ( kad sjedim ) desne strane , u visini ruke (isto kad sjedim) , totalno neprakticno za ... gledanje video sadrzaja :)
[11:22] <BotaniCar> Mozda da legnem u kadu kad .. gledam video sadrzaje :)
[11:22] <BotaniCar> Znas, nas dva bi morali vidjeti jel u krosvaliJi jos traze ljude :)
[11:22] <obruT> :)
[11:24] <BotaniCar> "Why have abs, when you can have kebabs"
[11:32] <ivoks> SDP - jedinica za glupost
[11:32] <ivoks> glup si ko 3 SDPa
[11:32] <BotaniCar> *0,03 , jos nitko nije dokazano ispao glup za citav jedan SDP
[11:32] <ivoks> a i to sto kazes
[11:33] <BotaniCar> Kaj si procitao / dozivio ?
[11:33] <ivoks> stranka beskicmenjaka
[11:33] <ivoks> amebe imaju vise osobnosti od njih
[11:33] <ivoks> a i petlje
[11:33] <ivoks> pa ovo s tablicama
[11:33] <ivoks> kaj sad, usrali se?
[11:34] <BotaniCar> ja sam nekaj kontao. Tablice trebaju imati samo dva atribututa - da su citljive i "negovorece" , da se mene pita, ja bi prostor di je sad grb proglasio slobodnom zonom i rekao da svatko moze staviti simbol kakav zeli za $cifru.
[11:34] <ivoks> da je karamarko znao da ima takvu moc...
[11:35] <BotaniCar> nema on moc nego su oni invalidi bez kicme, dosta im je reci "ja ne bi tako" i oni pomisle da mozda i ne treba tako
[11:35] <ivoks> bas
[11:35] <ivoks> hoce biti liberalni i dati svakoj susi pravo da nesto kaze
[11:36] <BotaniCar> Meni je to ok, ali ne moraju uvaziti bas sve receno :D
[11:36] <ivoks> to je kao da ja imam sta za reci o tome kako se transplatira jetra
[11:36] <ivoks> ili kao da BotaniCar ima nesto za reci o racunalima
[11:36] <ivoks> :)
[11:37] <BotaniCar> Velim ja svasta, no tko me slusa :) Tak bi i ovi trebali :D
[11:37] <ivoks> grb je trebalo maknuti s tablica - nisu to napravili
[11:37] <ivoks> gradove je trebalo maknuti ili ostaviti kako je - nisu to napravili
[11:37] <ivoks> ajde, promijeniti ce font
[11:37] <BotaniCar> ja bi totalno dao da mi se na tablicu stavi omanji falus i spreman sam to platiti :)
[11:43] <ivoks> neg
[11:43] <ivoks> ako bayer radi aspirin
[11:44] <ivoks> onda cu vjerovati da sve sto rade je dobro
[11:44] <ivoks> pa tako i ovaj dragulj
[11:44] <ivoks> https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/originals/c8/b8/e0/c8b8e066ac2e5171241514b9d0956397.jpg
[11:44] <BotaniCar> C/B je slika, pa se ne vidi jel' zuto dobro :)
[11:45] <ivoks> Tada se Heinrich Dresser, kemičar zadužen za testiranje efikasnosti i sigurnosti novih lijekova, odlučio dati prednost istraživanju diacetilmorfina, a ne acetilsalicilnoj kiselini, danas poznatijoj kao aspirin. Smatrao ga je dobrom alternativom za morfin - sigurnim lijekom protiv bolova i za liječenje raznih respiratornih bolesti, a bez problema ovisnosti. Osim testiranja na životinjama, navodno ga je testirao i na sebi i svojim kolegama u Bayeru
[11:46] <ivoks> bayeru mozemo zahvaliti postojanje heroina
[11:46] <ivoks> (a prvi aspirin radio se od katrana)
[12:01] <weshmashian> BotaniCar: uvijek trazimo ljude :)
[12:01] <BotaniCar> weshmashian: imate kadu u uredu ? :D
[12:01] <weshmashian> BotaniCar: um... ne? :)
[12:02] <BotaniCar> Hmpf, to je downer :^(
[12:03] <weshmashian> BotaniCar: a gle, mozes od doma delat :)
[12:03] <weshmashian> pa onda ti radi iz supe ili iz kade, tak svejedno :)
[12:03] <BotaniCar> weshmashian: zadnje kad sam s kreom o tom prical je bila spika da to postaje situaciono ! Lijepo az cut' da to nije tako :)
[12:03] <BotaniCar> I, ne pase mi to, nemrem 4k pornjavu strimat s ovog jada od DSLa doma
[12:04] <BotaniCar> Moram sjedit' na pipi D:
[12:04] <weshmashian> a ono, kao bi trebali svi bit u uredu.. al' ti niko nece branit da i od doma delas
[12:05] <BotaniCar> +1
[13:05] <nicols> ima tko raspoložen za par pitanja u svezi glede ssh key auth? :)
[13:09] <jelly> nicols: prvo pitaj onda cekaj odgovor
[13:11] <nicols> mda
[13:11] <nicols> da gubim vrijeme sastavljajući pitanje :)
[13:11] <nicols> nema veze, evo
[13:15] <nicols> dakle, imam svakog dana sve više mašina koje održavam
[13:15] <nicols> negdje imam ključeve, negdje koristim dobar stari password
[13:15] <nicols> naravno, sve više me ti passwordi živciraju
[13:17] <nicols> pa me zanima, koji je "proper way to do this?" sa ssh sa običnog usera na root? sa root -> root ili pak user -> user pa onda su (sudo)?
[13:23] <jelly> ovisi o politici firme
[13:25] <jelly> mi imamo svugdje i password i key-based ukljuceno, ali 99% vremena koristimo key-based auth
[13:26] <jelly> uvijek i iskljucivo se spaja sa vlastite radne stanice na remote ssh, nikad sa remote stroja na drugi remote stroj prek ssh
[13:27] <jelly> za strojeve gdje je revizor to trazio, imamo pogasen ssh na roota drito
[13:27] <jelly> (jer izmedju moze biti NAT pa se ne vidi koja osoba se spojila)
[13:28] <jelly> (also, i kad nema NAT-a, adresa radne stanice i laptopa moze biti dinamicki dodijeljena, sto isto otezava auditing preko samo IP adrese)
[13:46] <BotaniCar> nicols: ovisi kak ti je firma velika, ako je velika, uopce nemas problema jer ti revizor propise protokol koji moras zadovoljiti. Ako si mali, eto ti dobre prakse iznad, radi tak da te stvar sto manje zivcira.
[13:49] <nicols> uf uf
[13:49] <nicols> meni se više sviđa da idem ključem user -> user
[13:49] <nicols> alo kako onda do root-a na remote mašini? opet sudo sa passwordom?
[13:50] <BotaniCar> mozes se i u wheel grupu stavit' :D
[13:51] <BotaniCar> Ja u stvari ne shvacam kaj te muci tocno. Spajanje na milion strojeva da zavrtis update , nekaj drugo ?
[13:51] <BotaniCar> ako moras vrtiti opetovane komande na N mjesta, ili skriptiraj, ili cssh/nekaj slicno. Ako te zivcira sama procedura logina , jebga
[13:54] <vileni> puppet!
[13:54] <ivoks> puppet
[13:54] <ivoks> mahnulo 20. stoljece
[13:54] <BotaniCar> Cuj sad reklamu za ansimbl
[13:55] <vileni> ja nisam odavdje
[13:55] <vileni> nego, koristi netko nfdump?
[14:02] <vileni> ne? idem doma onda
[14:06] <nicols> što je to? :)
[14:07] <nicols> živciraju me sve opetovane procedure :)
[14:08] <nicols> imam situacije gdje imamo svoje account-e i imaju dozvoljen sudo na root
[14:08] <nicols> i strogi password policy
[14:09] <SilverSpace> dan nagorio malo vani
[14:09] <SilverSpace> frisko przen
[14:09] <nicols> i naravno, korisnik ima sve passworde, tako da ne koristim svoje, nego nekakve "kobasice" ... e to je tlaka utipkavat
[14:10] <SilverSpace> 1000G je u biti 930G
[14:11] <SilverSpace> stigo jedan novi disk u kucu 1T
[14:11] <nicols> samo 1T
[14:11] <nicols> ?
[14:11] <SilverSpace> vanjski prenosni 2.5
[14:12] <nicols> auuuuu .... koma
[14:12] <nicols> čemu to?
[14:12] <ivoks> ovak tablice trebaju izgledati:
[14:12] <ivoks> https://scontent-cdg.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xfa1/t31.0-8/10863971_810060062404992_1425875291873710983_o.jpg
[14:12] <SilverSpace> sestra uzela treba je za skolu za sva predavanja
[14:13] <SilverSpace> ivoks: ne bi te pustili preko granice :)
[14:15] <SilverSpace> usb 3.0 jao kaj je to brzo
[14:21] <SilverSpace> bome i novi iPad mini
[14:24] <ivoks> nego
[14:24] <ivoks> jeste vidli kako lihtenstajn
[14:24] <ivoks> na tablicama ima grb/zastavu, koji uopce nije u bojama zemlje
[14:24] <ivoks> zasto? jer grb/zastava u bojama zemlje ne bi dobro izgledalo, pa su stilizirali
[14:25] <ivoks> http://hr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lihten%C5%A1tajn#/media/File:Flag_of_Liechtenstein.svg
[14:25] <ivoks> zastava ^
[14:25] <SilverSpace> nicols: inace joj 500Gdisk pao jucer irazletio se :)
[14:25] <ivoks> http://hr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lihten%C5%A1tajn#/media/File:Staatswappen-Liechtensteins.svg
[14:25] <ivoks> grb ^
[14:25] <ivoks> http://www.licenseplates.tv/images/eeclies.gif
[14:25] <ivoks> tablica ^
[14:26] <ivoks> sad ce svoj grb na tablicama imati Hrvatska, Srbija, Albanija, Moldavija, San Marino, Andora i Slovacka
[14:26] <SilverSpace> ivoks: malo ih je pa se dogovore lako ovi nasi se ne bi dogovorili nikada
[14:27] <ivoks> ah, i crna gora :)
[14:27] <ivoks> bjelorusija
[14:28] <ivoks> ukrajina
[14:28] <ivoks> bas smo im pokazali...
[14:28] <ivoks> ima i isle of man
[14:29] <ivoks> i to je to, ne mogu se sjetiti niti jedne druge
[14:36] <ivoks> idem doma
[15:02] <SilverSpace> 25MB/sec usb kopiranje
[15:03] <obruT> ne znam sto fali petokraki na tablicama kako je bilo i prije
[15:03] <SilverSpace> boja pohabala se
[15:04] <obruT> pa ne mora bit crvena
[15:08] <SilverSpace> ak je i crvena ne znaci da je pohabana
[15:08] <jelly> 17:08:00 up 137 days, 16:04, 4 users, load average: 165.10, 53.01, 27.08
[15:08] <SilverSpace> da nije *
[15:08] <SilverSpace> jelly: ides
[15:08] <jelly> note to self: ne pokretati 200 paralelnih shell skripti na produkcijskom serveru
[15:11] <Mmike> znate da se Aspirin tak zove da si pase sa Heroin? :)
[15:12] <jelly> uh... to ti je ivoks rekao jutros
[15:12] <jelly> na ovom istom kanalu
[15:12] <SilverSpace> obruT: si vidio ovo http://is.gd/zvd8ZL
[15:15] <Mmike> jelly: jel? di, kad?
[15:16] <jelly> kad je slao linkove za aspirin i heroin i Bayer
[15:19] <obruT> SilverSpace: sto je to ?
[15:20] <Mmike> jelly: ne vidim to u historyju, a znc ne laze :)
[15:24] <Mmike> vileni: ti znas vmware esxi/
[15:24] <Mmike> ?
[15:25] <ivoks> Mmike: ?
[15:26] <Mmike> ivoks: oi
[15:26] <ivoks> Mmike: aspirin se zove tako jer je nasao od kiseline koja se slicno zove
[15:26] <ivoks> heroin se zove jer je 'herojski'
[15:26] <ivoks> oba je na trziste izbacio bayer
[15:26] <Mmike> I beg to differ. Bayer(n) je prvo napravio heroin, a onda su napravili heroin.
[15:26] <Mmike> erm
[15:26] <Mmike> aspirin
[15:26] <Mmike> aspirin je acetil-salicidna kiselina
[15:26] <Mmike> naj obicnija
[15:26] <Mmike> k'o andol
[15:26] <ivoks> obrnuto, samo aspirin je odbacen jer bi 'od njega bolila glava'
[15:27] <Mmike> al' je 'aspirin' fino pasalo uz 'heroin', marketinga radi
[15:27] <ivoks> kasnije je aspirin unaprijedjen, pa je pusten
[15:27] <Mmike> hm
[15:27] <ivoks> kakav marketing
[15:27] <ivoks> proizvodila ih je tvornica boja
[15:27] <ivoks> aspirin je nastao iz katrana
[15:27] <ivoks> a heroin iz najboljeg sedativa ikad - morfija
[15:27] <Mmike> da
[15:28] <Mmike> opijum
[15:28] <Mmike> odnosno
[15:28] <Mmike> makovi :)
[15:28] <Mmike> OPPPPPPPPPPPPPPEET SU JUUUUUUUUUUTROOOOOOOOOOS PROOOOOCVALIIIIIIIIIII UUUUUUUZITU MAAAAAAAAAKOVI CRVEEEEEEEEENIIIIIIIIIII
[15:32] <Mmike> As part of war reparations specified in the 1919 Treaty of Versailles following Germany's surrender after World War I, Aspirin (along with heroin) lost its status as a registered trademark in France, Russia, the United Kingdom, and the United States, where it became a generic name
[15:32] <Mmike> trejdmark
[15:33] <Mmike> PR
[15:33] <Mmike> mislim da je 1870te registriran
[15:33] <Mmike> ili tak nesh
[15:33] <Mmike> ugl
[15:33] <Mmike> frend ima plaketu
[15:33] <Mmike> heroin + aspiring = love
[15:33] <Mmike> ili tak nesh
[15:33] <Mmike> bayerov oglas iz davnih dana :)
[15:34] <jelly> ivoks: aspirin je nastao iz salicilne kiseline, koja je izvorno iz neke vrbe
[15:35] <jelly> history of aspirin na wikipediji
[15:35] <Mmike> jelly: aspirin jest acetil-salicidna kiselina
[15:36] <Mmike> nego
[15:36] <Mmike> kad smo vec kod njemackog nazivlja
[15:36] <Mmike> znate li da njemacka rijec za 'dug' znaci isto sto i 'krivnja'
[15:36] <Mmike> krivnja kao 'blame' i/ili 'guilt'
[15:37] <jelly> Mmike: da, acetilacija je ucinila lijek puno boljim za koristenje, ovo ono, citaj history of aspirin
[15:37] <Mmike> jelly: ae ae :) procitao malocas, opet, prvi put davno prije kad su mi rekli da je naziv izabran da pase uz 'heroin'
[15:37] <Mmike> a heroin je kak je ivoks reko - heroisch
[15:38] <weshmashian> dok radi ono sto treba - dal' je bitno? :)
[15:38] <ivoks> nije
[15:38] <ivoks> al je smijesno
[15:39] <ivoks> jucer gledao dokumentarac
[15:39] <ivoks> lik je odlucivao sto ce prvo na trziste
[15:39] * Mmike nije nikad probao heroin
[15:39] <ivoks> aspirin ili heroin
[15:39] * Mmike je probao aspirin
[15:39] <ivoks> i veli od aspirina bi bolila glava i imali bi problema sa srcem
[15:39] <ivoks> a heroin je super
[15:39] * Mmike ce probati heroin sa svojih 70ak :)
[15:39] <ivoks> cak je bila fora da ne izaziva ovisnost
[15:40] <Mmike> da, bed je sa heroinom sto izaziva opaku fizicku ovisnost
[15:40] <Mmike> ostale droge izazivaju psihicku ovisnost
[15:40] <Mmike> pa nisu tak gadne
[15:40] <Mmike> heroin je fakat opako opako losa stvar
[15:41] <ivoks> hah
[15:41] <ivoks> herion nije ilegalan u velikoj britaniji
[15:41] <ivoks> u medicinske svrhe
[15:41] <Mmike> mislim da nije nit kod nas
[15:41] <ivoks> ima bolji status u VB nego trava kod nas
[15:41] <ivoks> morfij nije ilegalan
[15:42] <Mmike> mislmi da nije nit heroin
[15:42] <Mmike> znam da kokain nije
[15:42] <Mmike> ima ga po bolnicama
[15:42] <Mmike> mislm, metadon je heroin
[15:42] <SilverSpace> obruT: hr repozitori za kodi
[15:43] <Mmike> bed je s heroinom sto ubije neki kurac koji kontrolira dopaminizaciju
[15:43] <SilverSpace> kaj ste se raspisali :)
[15:43] <Mmike> a dopamin pak kontrolira razinu boli
[15:43] <Mmike> pa kad rokas heroin ne treba dopamin
[15:43] <Mmike> pa kad prestanes heroin cijelo tijelo te boli
[15:43] <Mmike> i to traje
[15:43] <Mmike> i onda eto, nemosh izdrzat pa opet heroin
[15:43] <Mmike> ruzna droga :)
[15:45] <jelly> skoro sve droge ti iscrpe neki kemijski kufer kojeg inace imas i normalno, ali u malim kolicinama
[15:46] <SilverSpace> pa sve zivo izaziva ovisnost
[15:46] <SilverSpace> i meso
[15:46] <jelly> teobromin <3
[15:46] <SilverSpace> pih odmah tri Vlado9A3CY iskoce
[15:55] <jelly> ts jeba ga, stize mi vise spama sa vlastitog web hostinga nego sa vascelog interneta
[16:23] <Mmike> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dpesYL9iNRs
[16:23] <datase> YouTube: Formula 1 Track Invasion - Cornelius Horan - Silverstone 2003 - 0:01:06 - 96,660 views - 157 likes / 6 dislikes
[16:50] <obruT> BotaniCar: upravo mi se na sajtu zenstvena.com pojavio oglas sa banggood :P
[16:54] <jelly> trik je u tome da bang good nema nikakve veze sa zenama :-|
[17:22] <Mmike> BotaniCar, banggood je k'o dealextreme s malo kvalitetnijom robom i bazom u EU pa ne placas carine i sranja za vecinu stvari
[17:22] <Mmike> nemres kupit dildoe tamo
[17:22] <Mmike> nit su ikak affiliated with pornhub :)
[17:39] <infy-> hi
[17:43] <frainfreeze> bok
[17:54] <SilverSpace> ides nejdes
[18:09] <markosejic> d vecer
[18:33] <SilverSpace> ihaaa
[18:47] <SilverSpace> odoh spat sutra u 9 kvalifikacije
[18:47] <SilverSpace> Mmike: ^^ :)
[18:48] <frainfreeze> Sleep tight.
[18:58] <vileni> Mmike: sto ti treba za vmware? :)
[19:05] <jelly> 4 vDildoa po virtualki
[19:42] <Mmike> vileni, crash course :)
[19:59] <jelly> http://imgur.com/gallery/FpRL0BL jel ovo negdje kod nas
[20:03] <VjetarSaSunca> jelly: prema "resicama" na zaustavnoj traci rekao bih da nije
[20:03] <Mmike> oo
[20:03] <Mmike> vjetre
[20:03] <Mmike> pobjego si s ignora :)
[20:04] <Mmike> pa kakvim se to hackovima sluzis :)
[20:04] <VjetarSaSunca> Mmike: :) Maknula me tvoja žena sa ignora :p
[20:04] <VjetarSaSunca> čak sam na fiksnom ip-u :)
[20:05] <Mmike> lijepo od moje zene
[20:05] <Mmike> uvijek je znala suosjecati s ugnjetavanima :)
[20:05] <Mmike> VjetarSaSunca, ovo je doma-client, pa tu nisam implementirao
[20:05] <Mmike> salsa je nekad imala nelose burgere
[20:05] <Mmike> sad su osredno jadni
[20:05] <VjetarSaSunca> oćeš reći, živciram te samo kad si na poslu? :)
[20:05] <Mmike> da im je pecivo bolje bili bi nelosi
[20:06] <Mmike> VjetarSaSunca, ma nije zivciranje, nego previse suma nepotrebnog :)
[20:06] <Mmike> vrijemegub, jel :)
[20:06] <VjetarSaSunca> ah Mmike
[20:06] <Mmike> al' su im zato rebrica - mrak!
[20:06] <Mmike> al' mrak mrakova
[20:06] <VjetarSaSunca> feeling is mutual
[20:06] <Mmike> jos da nisu uvaljana u slatki umak...
[20:06] <Mmike> VjetarSaSunca, o, nisam znao. SUper :) Mutual ignore :)
[20:06] <VjetarSaSunca> lol
[20:07] <VjetarSaSunca> samo floodere trtnem na ignor
[20:50] <vileni> Mmike: rebrica?
[20:51] <Mmike> rebirica
[20:51] <vileni> Mmike: jesi uzeo bicikl?
[20:53] <vileni> a sto se vmware tice, jedino sto moras znati da je skup :)
[20:55] <jelly> skup al dobar
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[00:01] <Kanov> I have several versions of Python installed and get the following error; ImportError: No module named repository
[00:01] <Kanov> gi.repository is already installed
[00:02] <brass_gauge> I know I'm asking a dumb question, but there isn't a way to re-write a CD-R?
[00:02] <OerHeks> brass_gauge, no
[00:02] <brass_gauge> kk, just checking
[00:02] <bekks> brass_gauge: CD-R vs. CD-RW
[00:02] <brass_gauge> I'm aware.
[00:02] <brass_gauge> Just asking a silly question.
[00:03] <Jordan_U> brass_gauge: If it hasn't been finilized then you can add another track, which can designate that new files should be added or existing files modified.
[00:04] <Jordan_U> brass_gauge: But most programs finalize CDs by default, and it's not a commonly used feature. It also means that if you "delete" an existing file you can't regain that space, because you're only adding additional bits physically to the CD, you can't change what's already been burned.
[00:09] <aiconnect> Hi, I need help with the Ubuntu Software Manager. When I try and open it, the screen appears, then dissapears. I am getting a notification of error -> "Unknown Error: <class 'System Error' > (E:Opening /etc/aptsources.lost -ifstread::ifstream (13: permission denied)
[00:09] <ronh> do I need to use hardware raid to be able to share raid-1 disks between windows and linux?
[00:10] <aiconnect> nevermind.........I messed up. I just realized that unless root, I had taken read permission off sources.list.......
[00:10] <aiconnect> Fixed now :)
[00:10] <Marikos> Hi guys, this is driving me crazy and google is of no help. Short version, I'm not a fan of the unit policy and I want Nautilius to show me proper units (e.g. MiB, I can deal with the label) but I want my base-2 file sizes because it's not consistent between my terminal apps and my UI
[00:10] <Marikos> Please tell me there's a setting somewhere?
[00:10] <Marikos> (pretty please?)
[00:10] <grio> ronh, what's the question exactly? I'm actually rebuilding my workstation to boot Windows 8.1 and 14.04 with a RAID-5 configuration.
[00:12] <ronh> grio I don't know if I should enable raid in bios or if I can just create software raid under windows and then be able to access it on linux. maybe important: this is just a data disk, both OSes will be installed on a separate disk
[00:13] <grio> ronh, you misunderstand what RAID does. What are you trying to achieve *exactly*?
[00:14] <ronh> what makes you say that? I want to create raid-1 that can be accessed from both windows and linux.
[00:14] <grio> Are you trying to create a disk that is accessible to both Ubuntu and Windows? Is that what I'm understanding?
[00:14] <ronh> yes
[00:15] <davevanloo> ronh, i created a raid drive on my motherboard by setting it to raid, linux now recognised it.., i also had done it inside windows.. and linux was not able to correctly detect nor mount it in any mode.., so i would suggest raid mode..
[00:15] <grio> ronh, OK. All of that is independent of the OSs. When you can, you should ALWAYS avoid software RAID.
[00:16] <ronh> grio why? i actually wanted to avoid hardware raid
[00:16] <ronh> but i am not sure if it would work
[00:16] <davevanloo> i have a asus maximus VII ranger.., weirdly enough not sure if it has hardware-raid ( most likely not though.. as its an expensive option ) hardware raid makes all the raid processes be done on itself.. instead of via the cpu.. what all types of software raid do
[00:16] <grio> Hence why I said I think you misunderstand why and how RAID works. A software RAID is incumbent on the OS working correctly. With a hardware RAID, it's transparent to both OSs.
[00:16] <ronh> grio what if my motherboard dies and i buy a new one, with a different raid controller?
[00:17] <bekks> ronh: The ONLY way to have RAID1 being accessible (not even talking about accessing the filesystems) is using a hardwae RAID.
[00:17] <ronh> i can't access my data
[00:17] <grio> ronh, hence why an independent RAID controller is better, though your RAID configuration is on the harddrives, not the controller.
[00:17] <OerHeks> Marikos, known issue, i have no solution for mb <> mib
[00:18] <grio> You should be able to hook them up to another controller, and if the previous controller stuck to RFC, it should "just work."
[00:18] <ronh> and if not? I need to get exactly the same motherboard to access data?
[00:18] <bekks> ronh: Yes.
[00:18] <Marikos> OerHeks: That's what I was afraid of, it seems like a) it's a battle long over and b) user configuration was sacrificed for the "greater good"
[00:18] <grio> But I *never* use on-board RAID controllers. Always use an independent PCIe controller. Not necessarily, but most likely.
[00:18] <bekks> ronh: Thats why you have a backup.
[00:19] <grio> Exactly.
[00:19] <Marikos> OerHeks: IMO the debate was a non-starter, all storage units should be powers of 2 with SI prefixes, as it always has been
[00:19] <OerHeks> Marikos, this guy proposed a setting in dconf > https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/nautilus/+bug/875224/comments/13 maybe you can reply on that ?
[00:20] <OerHeks> Marikos, i would have the option to show in bytes too.
[00:20] <OerHeks> * would like to have
[00:20] <yoh4ns3n> /msg NickServ VERIFY REGISTER yoh4ns3n ebqyegckasty
[00:21] <Marikos> OerHeks: I'll do just that. I think even if we use the "human" base-10 units as the default and have a hidden setting it would be fine. KISS for the masses and those who know wht they want can tweak to their heart's content :)
[00:21] <OerHeks> yoh4ns3n, time to change password
[00:21] <Johnny_Linux> D`oh!
[00:21] <OerHeks> https://freenode.net/faq.shtml#changepass
[00:21] <Marikos> OerHeks: and raw bytes would not be unwelcome. Personally despite its flaws, I like the way windows showed it, base-2 prefixed units and raw bytes
[00:22] <grio> ronh, otherwise, you have to have a software RAID in both Windows and Ubuntu, they have to work exactly the same, and if one corrupts the other, your data is toast. An independent controller creates reliability and transparency. All that make sense?
[00:22] <OerHeks> Marikos, good point, let the user choose
[00:22] <bekks> grio: The former is "unclear", since there is no such software solution - which just needed to be pointed out.
[00:22] <kSudo89> when using CHOWN why might I get a 'Operation not permitted" error while using SUDO CHOWN
[00:22] <kSudo89> same goes for sudo chmod
[00:23] <bekks> kSudo89: You are operating on a filesystem not supporting POSIX ACL.
[00:23] <ronh> grio just googled a bit.. according to this (dated) post linux can access window's software raid. http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=833653&p=5217561#post5217561
[00:23] <kSudo89> but this is my /home/user/Videos folder. I don't understand what changed
[00:23] <grio> bekks, ronh: I was leaving him to make that revelation for himself, but you are correct.
[00:24] <OerHeks> kSudo89, chown without sudo is a security hole, even in you /home/
[00:24] <kSudo89> i used it with sudo
[00:24] <grio> ronh, I don't even see how that would be remotely possible, considering you need Windows to be maintaining bit integrity at that time. Otherwise, the data becomes incongruent, and the next time Windows boots, it eats the data because it never managed its writing to the disk.
[00:24] <ronh> well isn't that true for the independent controller as well? if it corrupts data you can no longer access it?
[00:25] <bekks> ronh: If it orrupts your data, you still have your backup.
[00:25] <kSudo89> my command was "sudo chown -R root:root /home/user/Videos" you guys telling my a can't reverse that now?
[00:25] <grio> ronh, yes, but the drives are transparent to the OS. The OS doesn't know what a RAID it; it simply sees it as a block device.
[00:25] <ronh> bekks and how is that a pro for hardware controller?
[00:25] <bekks> ronh: No one said it is a pro for HW RAID.
[00:25] <OerHeks> kSudo89, sudo chown -R $USER:$USER /home/user/Videos
[00:25] <ronh> bekks we were discussing hardware vs software controllers. and you just jumped in with "ya gotta backup" line the second time
[00:26] <bekks> ronh: The ultimate PRO for a HW RAID is that it is supported by all operating systems with drivers available for it.
[00:26] <kSudo89> sudo chown -R $USER:$USER /home/user/Videos does not work
[00:27] <bekks> ronh: And I dropped i a lot earlier.
[00:27] <bekks> *in
[00:27] <OerHeks> kSudo89, /home/user/Videos is correct? is your user named user? else use sudo chown -R root:root /home/$USER/Videos
[00:27] <ronh> and what if 5 years down the line the controller dies? and you can't buy the same controller any more, except (maybe) on used market?
[00:27] <grio> ronh, if you implement a software raid, I will guarantee you will lose data.
[00:28] <ronh> grio if i share data between the OSes, you mean? what if linux just reads data?
[00:28] <kSudo89> sudo chown -R user:user /home/user/Videos well change all files to me but will not change /home/user/Videos and any subdirectories back to me. They all retain root
[00:28] <bekks> ronh: The ONLY chance of NOT losing data is having a valid backup. No RAID solution can be considered "safe" under ALL circumstances.
[00:28] <grio> You're not hearing me. The controller is just that; it controls. The RAID configuration is all stored on the hard drives. If you buy a controller today, in 5 years, you should be able to buy a new controller and swap it out, and have it be transparent to the drives.
[00:29] <ronh> grio then why doesn't that work with onboard controllers?
[00:29] <grio> ronh, what bekks said; nothing beats a backup. The controller is no guarantee your data survives in a RAID.
[00:29] <bekks> ronh: Because onboard RAID controllers are fakeraid controllers, which work only because the driver in a specific OS (Windows) operates them.
[00:29] <kSudo89> /home/user/Videos and /home/user/Videos/1 all retain root while /home/user/Videos/video1.mov change
[00:30] <grio> ronh, it SHOULD work. But those onboard controllers seem to be non-standard, unless it's Intel or Adaptec.
[00:31] <grio> grio, and bekks detailed the coup de gras. Driver-controlled bit management = BAD. You want an independent controller with a fair amount of cache (RAM), and a battery.
[00:32] <kSudo89> sudo chown root:root /home/$USER/Videos
[00:32] <kSudo89> chown: changing ownership of ‘/home/master/Videos’: Operation not permitted
[00:33] <ronh> "This motherboard adopts Intel southbridge chipset that integrates RAID controller supporting Raid0/Raid1/Intel Rapid Storage/Raid 10/ Raid 5"
[00:33] <kSudo89> I give up thanks anyways
[00:33] <ronh> so how safe is to use this hardware controller?
[00:33] <bekks> ronh: Which controller is it in particular?
[00:33] <bekks> ronh: FIRST, we need to find out wether it is a HW RAID controller at all :)
[00:34] <grio> ronh, then don't let me stop you. bekks probably ICH7-9 Raid Matrix. Decent HW controller. It's what the mobos I use at work use for RAID1.
[00:35] <ronh> no clue, the page I"m reading doesn't say and I can't find it onl google... Z97 chipset, ASRock Extreme3 motherboard
[00:35] <bekks> The Intel Rapid Storage controllers are fakeraid controllers.
[00:35] <bekks> At least all of them I've seen.
[00:35] <ronh> which means?
[00:35] <bekks> You dont have a HW RAID controller.
[00:35] <grio> bekks, Negativo, good sir. They're all standard, or at least in my experience.
[00:36] <ronh> other motherboards can't read its raid arrays?
[00:36] <bekks> grio: I'm open to learn :)
[00:36] <grio> Every one of my customers who opted for RAID1 data protection use those on the embedded motherboards we sell. Never had a single data corruption in the 5 years I've been selling/servicing them.
[00:37] <bekks> I cant find any reference for Intel Rapid Storage not being fakeraid.
[00:37] <bekks> Some of you can, maybe?
[00:38] * grio has a Rapid Storage server sitting to his left doing almost exactly what ronh wants to do.
[00:39] <ronh> if I do raid-1 now can I switch to raid-5 once I buy more disks?
[00:40] <ronh> without copying data back and forth
[00:40] <grio> ronh, I wouldn't be concerned about using the Rapid Storage controller, personally. It's not best practices, but it's still a decent controller in *my* experience.
[00:40] <ronh> okay.. sounds better than software controllers anyway
[00:40] <davevanloo> its exually funny how much trouble im having in finding out weither I have hardware-raid.. it kinda looks like i have.. especially as in how easy both windows and linux recognised the drive ( even without drivers )
[00:41] <ronh> what about rebuilding raid-1 as raid-5 once more drivers are added?
[00:41] <ronh> disks*
[00:41] <bekks> davevanloo: Without drivers, neither Windows nor Linux woudl detect anything. The drivers are shipped with the default installation most likely.
[00:41] <grio> I've never used Rapid Storage drives for RAID5, so I can't attest to the quality.
[00:42] <davevanloo> bekks: that is true.., but doesnt hardware-raid present the raid-x drive as a single drive to the OS?
[00:42] <grio> ronh bekks: this is the motherboard in the embedded systems my company sells. http://www.portwell.com/products/detail.php?CUSTCHAR1=RUBY-9719VG2AR
[00:42] <bekks> davevanloo: Yes. But the OS still needs a driver to recognize that device.
[00:43] <grio> Those controllers are supported out of the box from Windows 7 on, and Ubuntu 14.04 for sure works with them.
[00:45] <davevanloo> bekks: jups :)
[00:45] <grio> afk for a moment; putting my rugrats to bed.
[00:47] <davevanloo> my maximus ranger VII when set to raid show a splash during bios boot to configure my raid array.. looks a lot like hardware raid.., but could still just be software.. dangit.. :P
[01:10] <cuddylier> Anyone kinow what a normal IOPs usage level is?
[01:10] <cuddylier> know*
[01:10] <cuddylier> I currently have 346 peak on raid 10 HDD
[01:10] <cuddylier> And %wa is very high peaking at 40
[01:11] <grio> back, though it looks like the RAID conversation died.
[01:12] <cuddylier> grio: Do you know much about iops and HW raid 10?
[01:14] <ubuser> ------
[01:14] <ubuser> hi
[01:14] <grio> cuddylier, admittedly, not a lot. What are you trying to achieve?
[01:14] <davevanloo> greetings ubuser, do you have a question?
[01:14] <cuddylier> grio: I'm trying to diagnose very high %wa on a raid 10 12 x 4TB HDD setup
[01:14] <ubuser> davevanloo: no (sorry), the system is running fine
[01:14] <cuddylier> That runs KVM VPS's
[01:15] <cuddylier> I'm looking at the iops right now but don't really know what to judge as 'high'
[01:15] <grio> cuddylier, admittedly, probably higher than my paygrade.
[01:15] <davevanloo> ubuser: no need to apologize hehe, i just thought you were a little shy somehow lol
[01:15] <ubuser> :>
[01:16] <davevanloo> :P
[01:16] <ronh> got it working after some trouble (installed OS on ahci then changed to RAID).. I now have two raid-1 disks showing as a single disk. now, what windows file system should I use for maximum linux compatibility? NTFS or exFAT
[01:16] <grio> RAID 10: because you just can't have enough disks to do the job.
[01:16] <davevanloo> raid-o because more IS better! :P
[01:17] <grio> cuddylier, RAID 10 always gives me issues with a high I/O.
[01:17] <cuddylier> This is hardware raid 10 too, it's driving my crazy hmm
[01:17] <ronh> linux partitions aren't an option unfortunately.. this is mainly a windows machine, I will be the only one using linux
[01:18] <davevanloo> its a shame isnt it ronh? :)
[01:18] <grio> cuddylier, what does the great Google-machine tell you?
[01:18] <ronh> yeah... so NTFS or exFAT? :)
[01:18] <teward> ronh: NTFS/fat/exFAT and Linux permissions don't play nice together.
[01:19] <grio> ronh, what's going to be on the drive?
[01:19] <ronh> teward shame
[01:19] <teward> ronh: that's going to be a major factor though. what's going to be on the drive, and is this going to be used with an actual Windows system as well, or no?
[01:19] <davevanloo> ooh yes.. i regularly have problems with that to.. but there are work workarounds. so it gets easier.. :)
[01:19] <ronh> grio data. movies, photos, etc. I will install linux on a separate disk and it will have a linux file system
[01:19] <teward> ronh: any of the movies over 4GB in size?
[01:19] <grio> exFat is your best bet.
[01:20] <ronh> tweard yes
[01:20] <teward> grio: what's max filesize in exfat
[01:20] <teward> grio: also, not all windows systems behave with exfat yet
[01:21] <grio> teward, 32EB, I thought?
[01:21] <ronh> if the answer was no, exFAT would be recommended? linux supports it better than NTFS, even though NTFS is a lot older?
[01:21] <grio> teward, I was close. 16EB.
[01:21] <grio> ronh, what?
[01:22] <grio> ronh, if the answer was no, FAT32 would be the suggestion.
[01:22] <ronh> grio does linux support exFAT better? since you recommended it over ntfs
[01:22] <ronh> oh I see
[01:22] <grio> ronh, NTFS has had a long and contentious support relationship.
[01:22] <teward> ronh: exfat unless you have older windows.
[01:22] <teward> (before winxp for example)
[01:23] <teward> s/winxp/winvista/
[01:23] <ronh> i have windows 8.1
[01:23] <grio> ronh, I couldn't exactly tell you why. If he has < WinXP, I'd tell him to GTFO anyway.
[01:23] <ronh> and don't care about older windows accessing the data.. only linux
[01:23] <grio> exFAT FTW KTHKBYE
[01:23] <teward> ronh: then exfat. but note that 8.1 and linux don't like each other either
[01:24] <Jordan_U> ronh: grio: NTFS support is included out of the box, and is reliable. EXfat support is not included by default.
[01:24] <ronh> hah ok.. I fully expected the answer to be NTFS and was just waiting for confirmation.. good thing i asked
[01:24] <teward> so there may be problems if you 'fastboot' 8.1 (make sure to really shut that stuff down xD)
[01:24] <grio> teward, negative nelly. It'll be fine. He just has to follow the instructions.
[01:24] <teward> grio: *points at his own 8.1 installation on a dualboot breaking the data partition routinely*
[01:24] <ronh> Jordan_U is it more reliable than exfat support?
[01:25] <grio> Jordan_U, I was thinking I'd had good luck with NTFS, but I didn't want to speak out of turn. Which ironically I did.
[01:25] <dodobrain> hi all..
[01:25] <YvesLevier> Hi dodobrain
[01:25] <grio> teward, sounds like a 'you' problem. =P
[01:25] <dodobrain> will installing postgresql-9.3 migrate the databases currently put into postgresql-9.1 ?
[01:25] <grio> dodobrain, /j #postgres
[01:25] <Jordan_U> ronh: I'm not familiar with how reliable EXfat support is, but it would be difficult for it to be more reliable than ntfs at this point.
[01:26] <dodobrain> i did a quick check on apt-cache show postgresql-9.3 and it doesn;t say it conflicts with postgresql-9.1
[01:26] <teward> grio: sounds like windows. but meh
[01:26] <YvesLevier> Som1 in Ubuntu-fr wants to know how to get well prepared his Linux certification. You know what it can mean plz?
[01:26] <dodobrain> grio, no. this is an ubuntu question. not a postgres question
[01:26] <teward> grio: but meh, i prefer a nice linux environmnet
[01:27] <grio> teward, I'm a recent re-convert. Primary desktop for work and home for 6 months, but still boot to 7/8.1 for app support and gaming. Don't have this breaking you speak of.
[01:27] <teward> grio: *shrugs* it's ultimately irrelevant and offtopic here so meh
[01:28] <grio> teward, Love my 14.04 install. Upgrade to 14.10 on my work machine. That was a meh-stake. More trouble than the tweaks were worth.
[01:28] <[n0mad]> all that breaks is if you have fastboot enabled you can't directly access the windows partition because it's basically hibernated
[01:28] <[n0mad]> if you restart, if you shut down windows with fastboot enabled you never would notice
[01:29] <ronh> grio,teward why exfat over ntfs?
[01:31] <grio> I know NTFS support has been solid in my experience, but exFAT doesn't have permissions to play with. If it's just media, permissions aren't a concern. But Jordan_U is right; exfat support isnt native, and needs to be installed with apt-get.
[01:31] <grio> I also come from the Linux 1.x/2.x era, when NTFS support was still just experimental.
[01:46] <Roberth> olá
[01:46] <Roberth> Olá
[01:46] <Roberth> hi
[01:46] <Roberth> boa noite
[01:50] <ubuser> hi
[01:51] <ubuser> has anyone install ubuntu with full disk encryption and windows on the same disk
[01:51] <ubuser> Has anyone installed Ubuntu with full disk encryption and Windows on the same disk?
[01:52] <OerHeks> ubuser, ubuntu+ full disk encryption is possible, windows + full disk encryption and ubuntu side-by-side not.
[01:52] <OerHeks> I wouldn't use full disk encryption, too many issues when somethin goes wrong, recovery can be a pain
[01:53] <ubuser> but windows + ubuntu with encrypted home partition is
[01:53] <ubuser> possible.
[01:53] <OerHeks> sure, no problem
[01:53] <ianorlin> there are some things with if you want ssh and encrypted home however
[01:55] <OerHeks> ianorlin, correct, If you have an encrypted home directory, SSH cannot access your authorized_keys file because it is inside your encrypted home directory
[01:55] <OerHeks> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SSH/OpenSSH/Keys#Troubleshooting
[01:55] <Guest94199> aight I messed up. I did a usermod -G <groupname> <user> and whiped out my normal groups.
[01:55] <Guest94199> can I reboot with "single" and get in as root to fix?
[01:56] <RepThis1> hey guys, i have a issue where when i try to go into fullscreen mode on youtube it just shows the same size video but with enormous sized black borders. Any idea on what this? running on KDE
[01:57] <RepThis1> on a fresh install i had the problem, then the next day it was normal and now its back to this black border madness.
[01:57] <Guest94199> cause I cant auth for sudo or anything now
[01:58] <Guest94199> can someone at least tell what is the standard set of secondary groups are please?
[02:09] <_X_C_V_B_> how do I update the linux kernal
[02:11] <w00tburger> can someone assist me with a .bashrc question?
[02:12] <[n0mad]> _X_C_V_B_, tried this? https://www.linux.com/community/blogs/133-general-linux/803937-installupgrade-linux-kernel-to-3183-stable-in-ubuntulinux-mintpeppermint
[02:14] <w00tburger> I am running into issue with my bash prompt. I have colored it, but when I type to a new line it overwrites my first line
[02:15] <shrikumar> terminal opening and closing immediately
[02:19] <w00tburger> someone? anyone? I am desperate so I can go about my business
[02:19] <w00tburger> or lack there of at this point
[02:20] <dodobrain> w00tburger, what do you mean? i didn;t understand your earlier statement about overwriting
[02:20] <dodobrain> perhaps screenshot or video would be more easily understood
[02:23] <dancular> is there an easy way to execute some cli commands in x seconds up to a year later?
[02:23] <w00tburger> when I type a line out in a shell, when it gets to the end of the line, instead of breaking the text to a new line it will begin overlapping the text I am currently writting
[02:24] <cfhowlett> dancular, sounds like a cron command ... a LONG cron command
[02:24] <dancular> k i'll google it thanks
[02:24] <shrikumar> terminal opening and closing immediately
[02:24] <dancular> is long cron different command or is long just a flag or something
[02:25] <[n0mad]> i think cfhowlett just means a year is a long way out
[02:25] <dancular> right
[02:25] <dancular> that was just hypothetical the server will restart before a year is up
[02:26] <[n0mad]> do you mean you want it to do something every x number of seconds for the next year? or you don't want it to do something till next year?
[02:29] <Sramelyor3301> Hey guys can you help me. Why isn't libreoffice able to detect any of my grammatical and spelling errors??
[02:30] <Sramelyor3301> I installed the extension for american and british english yet it isn't able to detect any errors. Please help
[02:31] <[n0mad]> Sramelyor3301, what if you hit F7?
[02:31] <dodobrain> w00tburger, what did you set PS1 to?
[02:31] <Sramelyor3301> jam
[02:31] <Sramelyor3301> I did that already
[02:31] <Sramelyor3301> isn't detecting anything
[02:32] <dodobrain> w00tburger, might i suggest you ask in #bash? they *will* tell you the definitive answer
[02:32] <Sramelyor3301> I made conscious mistakes here and there and I know there are mistakes yet it isn't detecting
[02:32] <Sramelyor3301> Where am I possibly going wrong?
[02:33] <cfhowlett> Sramelyor3301, you should ask the libreoffice channel for LO suppot.
[02:33] <Sramelyor3301> Which channel would that be?
[02:33] <Sramelyor3301> #libreoffice?
[02:33] <cfhowlett> Sramelyor3301, see your libreoffice "help" menu? look there
[02:34] <Sramelyor3301> oh thanks :)
[02:34] <weggrafaeqfqrfq> Anyone have any issues with using ubuntu on a macbook retina? Does the trackpad work as well as with osx?
[02:52] <Sramelyor3301> hey guys quick summary what is sudo apt-get autoremove?? WHy does it keep telling me that certain programs can be autoremoved??
[02:55] <orion> grr
[02:55] <orion> Does anyone know why when I run "DIST=utopic ARCH=amd64 git-pbuilder create" I get this error?: Package cowdancer is not available, but is referred to by another package.
[02:59] <Sramelyor3301> I tried installing open office
[03:00] <Sramelyor3301> I am not able to completely remove libre office
[03:00] <Sramelyor3301> please help
[03:00] <keith_> squarefree_keith
[03:00] <Sramelyor3301> and while installing open office it shows this - Unknown media type in type 'all/all'
[03:00] <Sramelyor3301> Unknown media type in type 'all/allfiles'
[03:00] <Sramelyor3301> Unknown media type in type 'uri/mms'
[03:00] <Sramelyor3301> Unknown media type in type 'uri/mmst'
[03:00] <Sramelyor3301> Unknown media type in type 'uri/mmsu'
[03:00] <Sramelyor3301> Unknown media type in type 'uri/pnm'
[03:06] <hgri89> hello
[03:07] <f__> hi
[03:07] <Jonno_FTW> hi
[03:07] <f__> where are you ?
[03:08] <hgri89> is this the right place to try and see if someone would be able to help me with disabling the NVIDIA card and just using the Intel Card on a Macbook Pro 9,1
[03:09] <f__> so sorry
[03:09] <hgri89> I have tried to scour the forums but the instuctions are for older versions of UBUNTU/Debian and dont seem to work with newer versions
[03:11] <javnut> I have an empty flash drive, how can I check if my computer can run 64 bit ubuntu?
[03:12] <OerHeks> javnut, check on ubuntu ?
[03:12] <OerHeks> lscpu can tell your arch
[03:13] <javnut> Architecture: i686
[03:13] <OerHeks> = 32 bit
[03:14] <javnut> CPU op-mode(s): 32-bit, 64-bit
[03:15] <javnut> so are you sure?
[03:15] <OerHeks> javnut, yes
[03:17] <javnut> ok, thanks
[03:24] <pipeep> Does anyone know how to use 2fa with luks? There doesn't seem to be an option for it.
[04:01] <esplonky> Can I install Ubuntu GNOME 14.10 on a Macbook Pro with core 2 duo? It's a 64-bit processor but has a 32-bit UEFI
[04:03] <OerHeks> esplonky, sure, but i think there is no such thing, 32 bit uefi. see the mactel pages
[04:03] <OerHeks> !mac
[04:04] <esplonky> oh ok. Which ISO should I use? x86_64 or i386?
[04:04] <Ben64> 64
[04:04] <OerHeks> i386 is 32 bit.
[04:05] <esplonky> ok
[04:05] <esplonky> there's no page for my mac on the mactel pages :P
[04:05] <esplonky> mine's a Macbook Pro 2,2
[04:05] <OerHeks> btw uefi won't work with 32 bit, although i read somewhere it can be done..
[04:05] <Catsandcats> Went to upgrade from 12.04 to 14.04 and walked away for a minute,now stuck on a blank lock screen ,won't let me log in
[04:06] <esplonky> I've only seen success in installing linux on mac with Ubuntu and other DEB based Distros
[04:06] <unknownsquad> for what distro
[04:08] <TheC4mel> I must have a corrupt font file. My font gets jumbled up, after I stay logged in for 3+ hours, the font gets worse and worse.
[04:08] <TheC4mel> Maybe I should run a memcheck?
[04:09] <OerHeks> TheC4mel, sure, memtest86 isn't a bad idea to check
[04:10] <TheC4mel> I know that sounds weird, but the font actually gets more and more jumbled, out of place, with missing characters, etc, if I stay logged in for a long time
[04:11] <OerHeks> TheC4mel, maybe your GPU fan is full of dust, that could explain this behaviour too.
[04:11] <unknownsquad> -help
[04:11] <unknownsquad> !help
[04:12] <TheC4mel> !help
[04:12] <coXZist> !help
[04:13] <OerHeks> please don't ... you know what ubottu replies
[04:13] <coXZist> didnt work ..lol..was just checking
[04:13] <OerHeks> It has a timer, for flooding
[04:13] <coXZist> oohhh
[04:13] <TheC4mel> OerHeks, I have a laptop and it's only a few months old.
[04:14] <TheC4mel> So Idk about the gpu
[04:14] <unknownsquad> syn 24.10.51.209 53 4000
[04:17] <coXZist> TheC4mel: you dont have to know about the gpu...maybe ur laptop is just overheating..is it just the font or the display in general
[04:24] <lotuspsychje> good morning to all
[04:26] <OerHeks> hi lotuspsychje
[04:26] <lotuspsychje> OerHeks: hello mate
[04:30] * trol today found that deb = opensource, rpm = closedsource .
[05:16] <Haris> hello all
[05:17] <lotuspsychje> Haris: welcome
[05:17] <Haris> how is everyone today
[05:17] <Haris> in the aptitude upgrade process, in the list of packages to be removed, what does it mean when it has {a} or {u} with them
[05:17] <Haris> common sense says {u} perhaps means upgrade
[05:17] <Haris> what does {a} mean
[05:17] <z8z> add?
[05:18] <z8z> i don't remember as i don't use interface
[05:18] <z8z> just type
[05:18] <z8z> sudo apt-get update
[05:18] <z8z> sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[05:19] <z8z> so you'll see everything much clearer
[05:19] <z8z> in your terminal
[05:21] <sgo11> hi, this is weird. latest ubuntu 14.04.1, GParted hangs on "Searching /dev/sda partitions". My /dev/sda is a ssd drive which only has one /dev/sda1 ext4 partition. any ideas? thanks.
[05:22] <ianorlin> sgo11: does lsblk list the partitions?
[05:23] <sgo11> ianorlin, yeah, just run that command without sudo. it outputs fine.
[05:26] <lotuspsychje> sgo11: did you change IDE to AHCI in bios?
[05:26] <sgo11> lotuspsychje, yeah. it's AHCI.
[05:26] <lotuspsychje> sgo11: what ssd brand?
[05:26] <sgo11> lotuspsychje, samsung.
[05:27] <lotuspsychje> sgo11: evo 840?
[05:27] <sgo11> lotuspsychje, ata1.00: ATA-9: Samsung SSD 850 EVO 120GB, EMT01B6Q, max UDMA/133
[05:27] <lotuspsychje> ok nice
[05:28] <lotuspsychje> sgo11: so sudo gparted hangs on you?
[05:28] <sgo11> lotuspsychje, yeah, the GUI window shows "Searching /dev/sda partitions" forever. maybe not forever. more than 3 minutes. I don't want to wait and just killed it.
[05:29] <lotuspsychje> sgo11: maybe do a tail -f /var/log/dmesg and tail -f /var/log/syslog while you running gparted, for errors
[05:29] <sgo11> lotuspsychje, I will try it.
[05:30] <sgo11> lotuspsychje, no error so far.
[05:31] <lotuspsychje> sgo11: this was a standard install or encrypted?
[05:31] <sgo11> lotuspsychje, standard install. no encryption
[05:31] <lotuspsychje> ok
[05:31] <sgo11> still no error output
[05:31] <lotuspsychje> sgo11: maybe also try a SMART test from disktools
[05:32] <sgo11> lotuspsychje, how to try that? should I kill gparted now?
[05:32] <lotuspsychje> sgo11: no leave it open, maybe for errors
[05:33] <sgo11> lotuspsychje, ok, just afraid it will damage my ssd drive. leave it open then. how to try SMART test?
[05:33] <lotuspsychje> sgo11: in your start button/ search the disk icon
[05:33] <sgo11> lotuspsychje, do you know the commands? I am running lxde.
[05:33] <lotuspsychje> sgo11: oh your on lubuntu?
[05:34] <sgo11> lotuspsychje, yeah. any difference? the core should be the same. :)
[05:34] <sgo11> lotuspsychje, the gparted loaded...
[05:34] <sgo11> lotuspsychje, 5 minutes.
[05:35] <lotuspsychje> thats odd indeed
[05:35] <sgo11> lotuspsychje, does this log help? kernel: [ 2151.744305] perf interrupt took too long (2520 > 2500), lowering kernel.perf_event_max_sample_rate to 50000
[05:36] <sgo11> lotuspsychje, probably not. that happens before I run gparted.
[05:37] <lotuspsychje> sgo11: wich lubuntu version are you on?
[05:37] <sgo11> lotuspsychje, the latest one with sudo apt-get dist-upgrade to the latest.
[05:37] <lotuspsychje> sgo11: you upgraded from wich to wich?
[05:38] <sgo11> lotuspsychje, what is the latest one? 14.04.1 or 14.04.2 ? can't remember. maybe 14.04.1
[05:38] <lotuspsychje> sgo11: did you upgrade from 12.04?
[05:38] <sgo11> the LTS version
[05:38] <lotuspsychje> sgo11: yeah latest is 14.04.2
[05:39] <sgo11> lotuspsychje, no. fresh install. I said I just did dist-upgrade.
[05:39] <lotuspsychje> hmm
[05:39] <lotuspsychje> not sure what could cause this freeze
[05:40] <sgo11> lotuspsychje, it just takes 5 minutes to load. weird.
[05:40] <lotuspsychje> sgo11: if you can find that disk utility for a smart test?
[05:40] <lotuspsychje> sgo11: look in your programs, its a disk hd icon
[05:41] <sgo11> lotuspsychje, is that "gnome-disks" command?
[05:42] <lotuspsychje> !info gnome-disks
[05:42] <ianorlin> sgo11: yes and that is on lubuntu
[05:42] <ianorlin> !info gnome-disk-utils
[05:42] <lotuspsychje> !info gnome-disk
[05:42] <lotuspsychje> :p
[05:43] <ianorlin> !info gnome-disk-utility
[05:43] <lotuspsychje> ianorlin: tnx
[05:43] <lotuspsychje> sgo11: you can do a few tests with that
[05:44] <sgo11> lotuspsychje, just start "self-test" short.
[05:44] <lotuspsychje> sgo11: sure smart test
[05:45] <sgo11> lotuspsychje, completed. Assessments are all OK.
[05:45] <lotuspsychje> sgo11: and you dont have any hidden partitions on that ssd? got windows on there once?
[05:46] <sgo11> I don't think my disk has any problems. the problem should be gparted.
[05:46] <sgo11> lotuspsychje, ssd is very clean. new ssd bought some days ago. only one /dev/sda1 ext4 partition. I even didn't create swap.
[05:46] <lotuspsychje> sgo11: i never seen a hang on gparted before.. weird
[05:47] <sgo11> lotuspsychje, I never seen it either. does weird. :)
[05:48] <lotuspsychje> sgo11: can you pastebin fdisk -l
[05:48] <sgo11> lotuspsychje, http://hastebin.com/wakokeheku.rib
[05:49] <lotuspsychje> pretty clean
[05:50] <sgo11> yeah, it's a very clean brand new ssd. very fast.
[05:51] <lotuspsychje> sgo11: you have a floppy in pc?
[05:51] <sgo11> lotuspsychje, no floppy.
[05:52] <sgo11> lotuspsychje, by the way, I did access smb:// before after the boot. not sure if that matters or not.
[05:53] <lotuspsychje> sgo11: is this evo 850 or 850 pro?
[05:53] <sgo11> lotuspsychje, I can reboot and try gparted again. should I reboot now and try again? evo
[05:54] <lotuspsychje> sgo11: 850 series doesnt have firmware update neither so..
[05:54] <lotuspsychje> sgo11: i would try a 14.04.2 ubuntu desktop liveusb maybe, and try gparted from there
[05:55] <lotuspsychje> sgo11: maybe its a weird lubuntu bug on gparted?
[05:55] <lotuspsychje> !info gparted trusty
[05:56] <sgo11> lotuspsychje, not sure. the core should be the same. anyway, I will try it later. gotta have my lunch first. :) thank you very much for your help.
[05:56] <lotuspsychje> sgo11: ok good luck
[05:56] <sgo11> lotuspsychje, thanks. ^_^
[05:59] <goddard_> anyone home?
[06:00] <lotuspsychje> goddard_: 1700 users are
[06:00] <goddard_> i need help with a sound problem
[06:00] <lotuspsychje> !sound | goddard_
[06:00] <goddard_> im in ksw
[06:00] <goddard_> kde plasma
[06:00] <lotuspsychje> k1l: morning
[06:01] <cluelessperson> I'm havnig a serious issue with my server, I just can't connect to it for some reason.
[06:01] <goddard_> and i only dont have sound in my browser
[06:01] <cluelessperson> I mean, I have SSH, but nothing else, MYSQL, teamspeak
[06:01] <cluelessperson> all services down for some reason.
[06:02] <Kanov> I uninstalled Python 3.2 manually and apparently, this was the worst decision ever taken. APT is broken now, the following errors are received; http://paste.ubuntu.com/10789030/
[06:02] <lotuspsychje> goddard_: maybe the #plasma guys might know?
[06:02] <Kanov> I can't seem to install back Python 3.2, as I keep getting that error.
[06:02] <Kanov> How can I fix this?
[06:03] <lotuspsychje> !aptlock | Kanov maybe with this
[06:03] <lotuspsychje> !info python
[06:04] <Kanov> lotuspsychje; i receive that same error if I try that command
[06:04] <OerHeks> Kanov, first you install python 3.4, now trouble with python 3,2 ??
[06:04] <cfhowlett> Kanov, what was your installation method
[06:04] <OerHeks> pip i guess
[06:04] <Kanov> OerHeks; yes. I manually removed 3.4 and 3.2 to see that fixed the problem, but unfortunately...that just made it worse
[06:05] <Kanov> if I try to reinstall python 3.2, i get this; http://paste.ubuntu.com/10789059/
[06:05] <Kanov> cfhowlett; 3.2 was installed through apt-get
[06:05] <cfhowlett> Kanov, so apt-get purge python should kill it
[06:05] <Kanov> cfhowlett; i removed 3.2 by deleting all it's binaries and the default directory where it was installed
[06:05] <cfhowlett> Kanov, !
[06:06] <OerHeks> Kanov, backup your data and reinstall
[06:06] <Kanov> cfhowlett; that gives me this, http://paste.ubuntu.com/10789069/
[06:07] <lotuspsychje> cfhowlett: look what me and OerHeks found this morning :p https://insights.ubuntu.com/2015/04/09/designed-for-developers-dell-launches-two-new-ubuntu-based-systems/
[06:07] <cfhowlett> Kanov, I agree with OerHeks. reinstall
[06:07] <cfhowlett> lotuspsychje, I know. I haz 1.
[06:07] <cfhowlett> :
[06:07] <Kanov> cfhowlett; why, can this not be fixed?
[06:07] <lotuspsychje> cfhowlett: this are new ones right
[06:08] <cfhowlett> kanov, you uso a completely non-standard method
[06:08] <Kanov> cfhowlett; there has to be a way
[06:08] <OerHeks> Kanov, python 3 is part of the system, you messed it up with 3.4 and now 3,2 ..
[06:09] <cfhowlett> Kanov, mixed, matched, and non-standard methods tend to break things ...
[06:09] <OerHeks> If you only would have removed 3.4 with pip, you would be oke
[06:09] <cfhowlett> lotuspsychje, yes these are the 2015 product line refreshements
[06:17] <marco__> hi all
[06:17] <lotuspsychje> marco__: welcome, how can we help you?
[06:17] <cfhowlett> !hello | marco__
[06:19] <dancular> hi
[06:19] <Guest76681> hello, i can not empty my trash, can anybody help me ?
[06:19] <lotuspsychje> !info bleachbit | Guest76681
[06:20] <Kanov> cfhowlett; i solved the problem!
[06:20] <Kanov> cfhowlett; everything is fine as dandy now
[06:20] <lotuspsychje> !yay | Kanov
[06:20] <cfhowlett> Kanov, nice! how, if I may ask??
[06:20] <mexson> hello
[06:20] <Kanov> cfhowlett; http://stackoverflow.com/questions/9446863/repair-damaged-python3-2-installation-ubuntu
[06:21] <mexson> how to use c++ programming in backbox
[06:21] <cfhowlett> Kanov, nicely done.
[06:21] <mexson> please help
[06:21] <cfhowlett> mexson, ask backbox. this is ubuntu.
[06:21] <cfhowlett> !backbox | mexson
[06:23] <cfhowlett> Kanov, *gentle advisor mode* in future, try to avoid "deleting" by removing folders with binaries. generally, the installation method also provides the removal method, e.g. apt-get purge FOO
[06:23] <Kanov> cfhowlett; i may forget my name, but not that advice
[06:24] <Kanov> thanks! :-)
[06:24] <cfhowlett> Kanov, lol. alright then. happy2help!
[06:24] <mexson> thank u guys
[06:36] <azizLIGHT> why do i keep getting asked for my password again and again? Authentication is required to update SMART data from WDC blablabla (/dev/sdc) An application is attempting to perform an action that requires privileges. Authentication is required to perform this action.
[06:37] <azizLIGHT> it wont stop asking me no matter how many times i enter the password
[06:37] <azizLIGHT> the password is correct
[06:38] <azizLIGHT> even if i press cancel it keeps asking me
[06:38] <azizLIGHT> even if i authenticate, it stil asks me
[06:39] <azizLIGHT> what the hell
[06:39] <DazPetty> I want to have a mac style doc, can anyone make a recommendation between docky aws cairo etc
[07:03] <BlueBerry16> I have question
[07:03] <BlueBerry16> anybody there?
[07:03] <somsip> !ask | BlueBerry16
[07:03] <BlueBerry16> OK
[07:04] <BlueBerry16> what better Ubuntu or Windows 10?
[07:04] <Fabby> Ubuntu!
[07:05] <cfhowlett> BlueBerry16, seriously, dude?
[07:05] <Fabby> (and I've got both...)
[07:05] <Fabby> (or used to untile a month ago)
[07:05] <BlueBer63> sorry dc
[07:05] <BlueBer63> which one is better windows 10 or Ubuntu? plus can you list of pros and cons of both?
[07:05] <somsip> BlueBer63: this is a support channel so the question is not appropriate here
[07:05] <cfhowlett> BlueBer63, ask in #ubuntu-offtopic or research elsewhere
[07:06] <BlueBer63> but can't you just simply tell me?
[07:06] <BlueBer63> I need os
[07:06] <BlueBer63> because my computer is without any atm
[07:07] <PCatinean> How does one make his synclient settings be active on reboot?
[07:07] <BlueBer63> and I don't know which one should I install
[07:07] <cfhowlett> BlueBer63, your computer, your choice.
[07:07] <somsip> PCatinean: two recent solutions worth looking at http://askubuntu.com/questions/290009/how-do-i-make-my-synclient-settings-stick-ubuntu-13-04
[07:07] <BlueBer63> my computer is intell inside
[07:08] <cfhowlett> BlueBer63, ? so download ubuntu and install and make up your own mind.
[07:08] <BlueBer63> intell inside 0.75 Ghz single core plus 250 ram
[07:08] <BlueBer63> how do I install Ubuntu?
[07:08] <cfhowlett> !install | BlueBer63
[07:09] <PCatinean> no clear solution on that somsip
[07:09] <somsip> PCatinean: did you try either of them? Have you tried anything else?
[07:09] <BlueBer63> how much does it cost?
[07:10] <brollypop> 0$
[07:10] <cfhowlett> BlueBer63, please read the links. they clearly state that ubuntu is free.
[07:10] <PCatinean> somsip, if i'm not sure of the solution I don't try it, especially if I don't understand and people there saying it doesn't work for them
[07:11] <somsip> PCatinean: so what have you tried and what else have you found from your research on this?
[07:11] <BlueBer63> no I was asking how much will cost. me to run Ubuntu when I crash and I won't be able to boot up again
[07:11] <BlueBer63> and will have to reinstall everything
[07:11] <cfhowlett> BlueBer63, still free.
[07:12] <BlueBer63> it won't crash?
[07:12] <BlueBer63> or make fire?
[07:13] <cfhowlett> BlueBer63, you are trolling and now you are /ignored
[07:13] <BlueBer63> I'm not trolling!
[07:13] <BlueBer63> I just have questions right?
[07:14] <BlueBer63> is this illegal to ask?
[07:14] <Ben64> BlueBer63: you're asking silly questions. if you don't have an Ubuntu technical support question, this is not the place to be asking
[07:14] <BlueBer63> OK what's the minimum of ram?
[07:14] <BlueBer63> I need
[07:15] <Ben64> 512MB
[07:15] <BlueBer63> I have 250mb
[07:15] <BlueBer63> grrrrr
[07:15] <BlueBer63> it won't work?
[07:15] <Ben64> you could probably use the mini iso and install lubuntu
[07:15] <BlueBer63> what's minimum cpu?
[07:16] <BlueBer63> I have Intel inside
[07:16] <BlueBer63> would it be OK?
[07:16] <Ben64> intel has made many processors
[07:17] <OerHeks> BlueBer63, so you want to run windows 10 on that too ? LoLz
[07:17] <BlueBer63> I have Intel inside 0.75 GhZ turbo single core
[07:17] <Ben64> BlueBer63: get a new computer
[07:17] <BlueBer63> OerHeks yes windows for phones
[07:17] <BlueBer63> Ben64 and where are the money?
[07:17] <Ben64> in your pocket hopefully, that computer is ancient
[07:18] <BlueBer63> it is not
[07:18] <BlueBer63> when new boyfriend of my mother bought it for me
[07:18] <BlueBer63> he said he spent on it loads of money but he doesn't care
[07:18] <BlueBer63> because I'm an intelligent and nice girl
[07:18] <BlueBer63> it's not an old computer
[07:18] <DamBedEi> Hey guys, got a little big problem and I hope someone can help me :) I had Windows installed on my PC but I wanted to try Ubuntu. So I installed Ubuntu 14.04 as Dualboot. In Windows I created a partition formated as NTFS. The idea was to save files there so I can access them from Windows and Ubuntu. I saved a few folders and files on this partition in Ubuntu then I rebooted and wanted to access the files in Windows.
[07:19] <BlueBer63> I has one year
[07:19] <BlueBer63> will this whole Ubuntu work or not?
[07:19] <DamBedEi> I clicked on the partition in the windows explorer and it said it is empty. After rebooting and going to Ubuntu again the partition is also empty and all the files are lost. WTF happend ?!
[07:19] <Ben64> BlueBer63: doubtful
[07:20] <BlueBer63> Ben64 so Ubuntu must be some crap
[07:20] <cfhowlett> DamBedEi, display .hidden files ?
[07:20] <Ben64> BlueBer63: nope, that would be your computer
[07:20] <BlueBer63> good I didn't install it
[07:20] <BlueBer63> my computer is year old!
[07:20] <Ben64> BlueBer63: 16 years old, sure
[07:20] <BlueBer63> so don't you dare to lie to me!
[07:20] <OerHeks> BlueBer63, please join ##troll, this is ubuntu support only.
[07:21] <BlueBer63> you people are so unhelpful I may be complain
[07:21] <BlueBer63> will just find their email
[07:21] <Ben64> BlueBer63: go ahead. have a nice day
[07:21] <Vista1> Hi
[07:21] <cfhowlett> Vista1, ask your ubuntu support question
[07:21] <BlueBer63> Ben64 yours won't be nice when they sack you
[07:21] <BlueBer63> and you will live of dole
[07:21] <DamBedEi> cfhowlett: Also displaying hidden files in Windows or using sudo nautilus didn't bring any results
[07:21] <Ben64> BlueBer63: good thing i'm a volunteer then, huh
[07:21] <W8_1> Yo
[07:22] <cfhowlett> DamBedEi, that IS weird!
[07:22] <Ben64> DamBedEi: just a tip - you should never do 'sudo nautilus'
[07:22] <BlueBer63> can just upgrade cpu to make Ubuntu work on my computer?
[07:22] <BlueBer63> what cpu should I buy?
[07:22] <OerHeks> DamBedEi, how did you copy those files to that ntfs partition?
[07:22] <DamBedEi> Ben64: just did to have a look
[07:22] <cfhowlett> DamBedEi, wait, sudo nautilus? bad user
[07:23] <DamBedEi> OerHeks: I did something like mkdir and mv
[07:23] <Ben64> DamBedEi: yeah i know, just saying. using sudo with graphical apps can lead to problems, although not related to your problem
[07:23] <BlueBer63> can someone answer?
[07:23] <cfhowlett> DamBedEi, gksu nautilus
[07:23] <Ben64> BlueBer63: something made in this decade
[07:24] <BlueBer63> decade has 15 years right?
[07:24] <Ben64> 10
[07:25] <BlueBer63> so I just go to shop and ask for cpu made in the last 10 years?
[07:25] <Guest63891> how I'd like to know if apt-get upgrade is the same as running the software updater interface?
[07:25] <BlueBer63> do I need some special cpu for Ubuntu?
[07:25] <DamBedEi> cfhowlett: also there, no files. only three folders: found.000 $RECYCLE.BIN System Volume Information
[07:25] <BlueBer63> will intell inside do be OK.
[07:25] <W8_Changed> Hi
[07:25] <BlueBer63> ?
[07:25] <cfhowlett> DamBedEi, found.000 is a windows thing.
[07:25] <cfhowlett> Guest63891, same.
[07:26] <Guest63891> cfhowlett: I assume I have more options from the command line
[07:26] <cfhowlett> Guest63891, indeed.
[07:26] <Guest63891> that's all I need for now
[07:26] <Guest63891> cause is slow from the usb port
[07:26] <cfhowlett> Guest63891, run apt-get from terminal for details
[07:26] <Ben64> actually, 'sudo apt-get dist-upgrade' is the same as the graphical updater, just 'upgrade' doesn't do kernels and other things
[07:27] <Guest63891> and do you know if persistent data means keeping upgrade after reboot or no?
[07:27] <DamBedEi> cfhowlett: ok, but my files are still lost and I did nothing else then clicking on the partion in windows explorer
[07:27] <Guest63891> cfhowlett: I'm gonna check it out
[07:27] <BlueBer63> hello I have asked question people!
[07:27] <Ben64> DamBedEi: go back to ubuntu and see if you can find them
[07:27] <cfhowlett> DamBedEi, yeah, but that found.000 is created by windows due to something ... ask in ##windows for further info
[07:27] <DamBedEi> Ben64: I am back in Ubuntu and no files anymore :(
[07:28] <DamBedEi> cfhowlett: Ok, I will give it a try
[07:28] <Ben64> DamBedEi: maybe you made files in the mountpoint without the drive actually mounted there?
[07:28] <BlueBer63> can someone answer please?
[07:28] <DamBedEi> Ben64: this is possible oO ?
[07:28] <BlueBer63> it's not nice to ignore potential future customers
[07:28] <Ben64> BlueBer63: you're just wasting everyones time with your nonsense questions
[07:28] <BlueBer63> right?
[07:29] <BlueBer63> it's technical question
[07:29] <DamBedEi> Ben64: I thought it has to be mounted, else I can't access it through the terminal
[07:30] <ianorlin> BlueBer63 you need pae for 32 bit ubuntu but that came out with pentium pro execept for some wierd pentium M chips
[07:30] <Ben64> DamBedEi: if it isn't mounted, the directory is still there
[07:30] <ianorlin> but on such a system you would have trouble finding enough ram to run unity well
[07:36] <allstarsnorks2> Hello there. After replacing Xubuntu's default icon to Moka, Software Center's Search icon on the search bar shows up as a missing icon
[07:36] <allstarsnorks2> How do I fix this?
[07:39] <OerHeks> allstarsnorks2, edit the moka theme, i know it is a paid theme, or contact the moka devs ?
[07:39] <MonkeyDust> allstarsnorks2 only this Moka icon set? try a different set
[07:40] <allstarsnorks2> there's also Flattr, and Numix
[07:40] <OerHeks> http://mokaproject.com/moka-icon-theme/download/ubuntu/
[07:41] <obr7> hi. my python script http://paste.ubuntu.com/10789475/ logs every 3 seconds to a file. directly, without upstart (= initctl) it works well. with my upstart script http://paste.ubuntu.com/10789469/ it produces only an empty file. ideas?
[07:42] <cfhowlett> obr7, python support = #python
[07:43] <obr7> cfhowlett: oki. thought its an upstart / initctl prob
[07:43] <cfhowlett> obr7, could be. the python channel would know more than I do
[07:44] <obr7> kk
[07:50] <DamBedEi> Ben64: I asked in the Windows forum and they said it is probably a mounting problem, like when you don't remove your USB-Stick. So I didn't unmount the Partition correctly and the datas are lost. The found.000 is a folder from windows. It restored something but not all
[07:51] <Ben64> DamBedEi: yes, you do need to properly unmount partitions
[08:00] <lemonxah> hi guys question
[08:00] <lemonxah> have 2 displays connected to my laptop
[08:00] <lemonxah> they are the exact same screens
[08:01] <lemonxah> the one with hdmi and one with vga
[08:01] <lemonxah> the hdmi running 1920x1080
[08:02] <lemonxah> but the vga is only 1650x1050
[08:02] <lemonxah> how do i fix that? its the max that ubuntu says it can go
[08:02] <lemonxah> but i know its not
[08:03] <OerHeks> lemonxah, test your setup with the VGA monitor connected only, does it show 1920x1080 ?
[08:06] <lemonxah> nvm thnxi fixed it with xrandr --addmode VGA1 1024x600_60.00
[08:07] <lemonxah> well
[08:07] <lemonxah> not 1024
[08:07] <OerHeks> :-)
[08:07] <lemonxah> but i used that
[08:22] <olegb> I want to setup a caching DNS-server on my laptop - what server should I use on ubuntu and any good documentation for setting up the service
[08:29] <somsip> !info bind | olegb
[08:29] <somsip> !info bind9 | olegb
[08:29] <somsip> olegb: and some reading for you https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BIND9ServerHowto
[08:31] <colby_> hi folks, can anyone help me install a win7 connected usb printer to ubuntu over home network
[08:33] <olegb> I want to setup a caching DNS-server on my laptop - what server should I use on ubuntu and any good documentation for setting up the servicel
[08:34] <olegb> somsip: thanks (sorry for the runaway keyboard)
[08:35] <bojan_> What is the purpose of host.allow and host.deny??
[08:35] <ikonia> bojan_: to allow / block tcp services that support tcp_wrappers
[08:36] <gtan> Hi all!
[08:36] <qa> [0006.95] Log: Loading Package 'Startup' from path '../../HeistGame/CookedLinux/Startup.upk'
[08:36] <qa> [0007.34] Log: 65163 objects as part of root set at end of initial load.
[08:36] <qa> [0007.34] Log: 0 out of 0 bytes used by permanent object pool.
[08:36] <qa> [0007.34] Log: Initializing Engine...
[08:36] <qa> [0007.35] Log: Loading Package '../../HeistGame/CookedLinux/GuidCache.upk' from path '../../HeistGame/CookedLinux/GuidCache.upk'
[08:36] <bojan_> ikonia:Can i allow any mac address to access my NFS share using that??
[08:36] <qa> /home/administrator/repo/Development/Src/OpenGLDrv/Src/OpenGLShaders.cpp(271): Assertion failed: appErrorf
[08:36] <gtan> Have a problem with ubuntu 14.10 - freezes on startup and shutdown
[08:37] <gtan> wait-for-state stop/waiting
[08:37] <gtan> any advices?
[08:38] <zamba> how do i set the default keyboard layout in 14.04?
[08:40] <ekuidas> hi all, I'm having some major boot issues after upgrading from 12.04 lts to 14.04 lts, after a certain point in boot I get a black screen (in safe mode too) and no activity
[08:40] <ekuidas> even on 12.04 I had to boot to a legacy kernel to get past it but now that legacy kernel is gone and I'm screwed :\
[08:40] <chotaz`w> zamba, System, Preferences, Keyboard?
[08:41] <zamba> chotaz`w: negative
[08:41] <ekuidas> any way to debug it? I'm dropped at the root terminal at the moment
[08:41] <chotaz`w> anything like sticky notes for the buntu?
[08:41] <zamba> chotaz`w: this is stupid unity
[08:41] <chotaz`w> ew, unity
[08:41] <zamba> chotaz`w: i have system settings.. and then under "personal" i have "Language support"
[08:41] <zamba> chotaz`w: nothing there about changing the keyboard layout
[08:41] <zamba> which is frankly counter-intuitive
[08:42] <chotaz`w> zamba, sudo dpkg-reconfigure keyboard-configuration
[08:42] <gtan> I recently started having issues with Ubuntu 14.10 - after resuming from suspend - the networking went off.. I deleted the default ethernet entry and not it does not restart ..
[08:43] <zamba> chotaz`w: why is this hidden?
[08:43] <gtan> and if I go to recovery - root shell - it does not shutdown - I have to power down the machine
[08:43] <chotaz`w> zamba, beats me, I just google it :P
[08:43] <DerRaiden> hello...
[08:43] <gtan> is this a known issue/
[08:44] <gtan> sudo shutdown now worked... some progress
[08:44] <ekuidas> is there an easy way to see where the boot process dies at?
[08:45] <ekuidas> a whole bunch of stuff starts up [OK] then I get a black screen and no activity
[08:45] <ekuidas> does it get logged somewhere?
[08:46] <ekuidas> or better yet, how can I stop X from starting ?
[08:59] <gtan> Hi! Can anyonw help me here with Ubuntu freeze
[09:06] <ACCBiggz> Hey all, my question has to do with installing 14.04 64-bit. Do I have to backup all my files to external storage, or is there anyway to keep my files & still install 64-bit version?
[09:06] <ACCBiggz> Thanks
[09:10] <jegeren> HI
[09:10] <bagginsDK> Hello! I would like to ask something irrelevant. Does anybody know any good ebook or link for developing osgi web applications?
[09:11] <gunndawg> bagginsDK: you might try ubuntu-offtopic
[09:11] <jegeren> HI
[09:12] <jegeren> Waht
[09:13] <jegeren> ,jv.jhv.jc.jcgjgcjgc.j
[09:13] <jegeren> -kjb
[09:13] <jegeren> -lkbj
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[09:13] <jegeren> uil
[09:15] <cq-aux_> can anyone here play facebook videos?
[09:17] <nita_> I can't get Vino (VNC) to work properly when using fglrx-drivers. I can connect to the remote server and all, but the screen isn't refreshing. Using open-source drivers it works, but that's probably because OpenGL and everything else it broken then and it falls back to rendering everything in software. Any ideas how to fix?
[09:19] <cq-aux_> so noone playing videos on facebook?
[09:19] <nita_> No
[09:19] <cq-aux_> lol ok
[09:20] <gunndawg> cq-aux_: facebook is not related to ubuntu, might try an off topic channel
[09:20] <cq-aux_> ok then
[09:24] <farciarz84> I would like to learn something about server-provisioning. Namely, I would like to setup ubuntu-server automatically by installing packages, setting up database, adding user, configs etc. Where should I start?
[09:25] <nita_> farciarz84: sounds like you're looking for OpenStack
[09:26] <farciarz84> nita_: why?
[09:28] <faust> farciarz84: take a look at Chef or puppet or salt-stack (IMHO this last one is still not production-stable, but it is really nice)
[09:30] <farciarz84> faust: ansible or salt-stack? Which one would you prefer?
[09:31] <faust> farciarz84: hey are really different
[09:31] <faust> farciarz84: ansible is like "salt-ssh" that is just a small part of salt, but probably ansible could be considered more stable than salt
[09:32] <farciarz84> faust: what is the big part of salt?
[09:32] <faust> anyway in my experience if you don't use the most exotic feature in salt it "should work"
[09:33] <donniezazen> Can xUbuntu 14.04 be good platform for Qt development or should you be using the latest releases? I like the stability of LTS releases but packages may end up to be quit old.
[09:33] <maryamhonary> hi every body
[09:33] <faust> farciarz84: it uses zeromq to make "minions" connect to the "master" which don't need to know anything about its minions, it is good if you have a dynamic enviroment with *a lot* of machines
[09:34] <farciarz84> is 7 a lot?
[09:36] <faust> farciarz84: you can use salt with 7 machines if you want (and you won't have problems if you will increase this number), on the other hand orchestrating 7 servers over SSH is still possibile (but you may face some slowdown)
[09:37] <faust> you should try them and which fits better, also give a chance to chef/puppet, they are written in ruby, which is a bad thing, but they are pretty stable
[09:38] <MouseTheLuckyDog> I just started up firefox, the restore session is messed up, the history is messed up some of the plugins are not working. Before I start mucking around trying to fix things, what folders do I want to back up?
[09:38] <farciarz84> faust: I don't think ruby is a bad thing however I'd go with ansible or salt
[09:39] <farciarz84> chef/puppet seems odd to me
[09:40] <faust> farciarz84: ruby it's too "hipster" when I see something written in ruby I know that it is from some SF hipster who runs a startup that will fial tomorrow, I usually try to avoid things written in ruby :P
[09:41] <Guest56664> Hi there. How can I save underscan settings for nvidia, so that it stays fixed for every boot on Ubuntu 14.04?
[09:41] <farciarz84> faust: I agree python is better ;)
[09:46] <Sy`work> Hey, does anyone know what defines the order of the block devices in /dev (sda/sdb/...)? Is that the physical location of the cables on the mainboard or can you change it in the BIOS?
[09:47] <ikonia> Sy`work: there is no ordering any more - thats why you usin uuid's
[09:47] <Sy`work> I can't - it's a live image that's sent to many computers and then runs a script
[09:48] <Eightynine> Hi guys. I'm using Ubuntu LTS with XFCE and Unity, my resolution is 1920x1080, but quality is like resolution is low, I can see pixels(especially in panel and login screen). Boot logo not fits to my screen, resolution is low. How to fix this?
[09:48] <MonkeyDust> Eightynine start with arandr
[09:48] <Sy`work> even if the OS doesn't sort it... it should still have a certain order unless the OS randomizes it... :(
[09:48] <k1l> Sy`work: its the ordering the bios sends out. some mainboards/bios do shuffle them every time. if you are lucky its just the order of the cables in the slots
[09:49] <Sy`work> thanks :D
[09:49] <Sy`work> thought it was the boot order, but a few computers didn't think so :)
[09:50] <Eightynine> What is arandr? Also I have small fonts in Chrome.
[09:53] <jenenliu> hi guys, I try to install build-dep package, but there is an error: unable to locate build-dep
[09:53] <jenenliu> this is my sources.list file, http://paste.ubuntu.com/10790234/
[09:54] <jenenliu> I try google, but can't fix it, can someone help? thanks a lot
[09:55] <k1l> !info build-dep
[09:56] <k1l> jenenliu: why do you want that package? or where does it say you need it? i am not aware of that package
[09:57] <jenenliu> I want to compile wine
[09:57] <jenenliu> ubottu: then how should I modify my sources.list file ?
[10:02] <jenenliu> k1l: Any idea ? Is it because there are something wrong in sources.list file?
[10:02] <ubuntu_> hi
[10:03] <MonkeyDust> !compile | jenenliu start here
[10:03] <MonkeyDust> jenenliu i guess you were referring to duild)essential, not to build-dep
[10:04] <MonkeyDust> build-essential*
[10:04] <k1l> jenenliu: the package is called "build-essential"
[10:05] <jenenliu> thank you guys, I am confused, it should be apt-get build-dep wine ;(, thanks a lot anyway
[10:06] <k1l> jenenliu: what howto are you following?
[10:07] <k1l> jenenliu: wait
[10:07] <k1l> jenenliu: its a command for apt-get, not a package
[10:07] <jenenliu> k1l: Hmm, maybe I am tired, I should copy&paste the command anyway
[10:08] <k1l> apt-get build-dep packagename. please put the command and the output into a pastebin
[10:08] <MonkeyDust> jenenliu what time is it where you are
[10:08] <jenenliu> 18:08
[10:08] <jenenliu> k1l: http://wiki.winehq.org/BuildingBiarchWineOnUbuntu
[10:08] <jenenliu> k1l: it is my wrong, thanks
[10:28] <dell> Hello everyone! I need help, I have a ssd "samsung 840 evo", I would like to format it using the "secure erase", what programs can I use ?
[10:30] <Ice_Strike2> -rwxrwxrwx 1 vagrant vagrant 6.1K Mar 30 13:14 Abstract.php*
[10:31] <Ice_Strike2> What does * mean after filename?
[10:31] <perfecture> Install secure-delete
[10:32] <MonkeyDust> he's gone
[10:32] <MonkeyDust> Ice_Strike2 it's a wildcard, meaning "anything"
[10:33] <perfecture> MonkeyDust Just noticed
[10:34] <FL3SH> hi, can someone recommend a good tool to test pendrive?
[10:35] <MonkeyDust> FL3SH pendrive linux? that's not supported here
[10:44] <phaenon> hi need some help installing cups and new printer (its been a drag with no results)
[10:44] <MonkeyDust> !cups | phaenon have you read this
[10:45] <Mehrzad> How can I update gcc/g++ in ubuntu 12.04?
[10:47] <phaenon> MonkeyDust, i did not, thanks
[10:48] <zatan> hi, sudo su - root && cd /var/www why its changes a user but doesn't execute `cd /var/www` command ?
[10:49] <phaenon> MonkeyDust, ill bet its apparmor =?
[10:50] <faust> zatan: why sudo su?
[10:51] <faust> anyway su will start a new shell, so cd /var/www will be executed only after you exit from the shell and only if it returns 0
[10:52] <zatan> faust, can you think of any workaround for my need ? I want switch user and change dir
[10:54] <faust> zatan: try su -c "cd /var/log ; /bin/bash"
[10:55] <faust> /var/www*
[11:00] <zatan> faust, didn't work bash: cannot set terminal process group (7843): Inappropriate ioctl for device
[11:02] <faust> zatan: exactly what command are you trying to use?
[11:09] <DamBedEi> Hi. Can someone pls help me with this? Little desperate ... http://askubuntu.com/questions/607576/can-not-find-root-partition
[11:10] <dvrr> Hi..
[11:11] <k1l> DamBedEi: can you pastebin the output of "sudo fdisk -l" (small L at the end)
[11:11] <k1l> !paste | DamBedEi
[11:11] <zatan> faust, sudo su root -c "cd /var/www; /bin/bash -l" it works but as soon as I click "CTRL-C" I am getting Session terminated, terminating shell...^C
[11:12] <mjayk> zatan: ctrl c doesnt copy in console
[11:12] <k1l> zatan: what do you want to do at all?
[11:14] <DamBedEi> ok, I reconnect to the channel on the laptop the problem is. Pls hold on a sec
[11:14] <dvrr> http://paste.ubuntu.com/10790764/ please open this url how can i resolve this problem
[11:14] <zatan> change a user and go to directory, but when I type ctrl-c session terminates which one shouldn't be doing as sometimes I type something wrong I click ctrl-c
[11:15] <phaenon> MonkeyDust, its working, problem was located in evince ..sigh
[11:15] <k1l> zatan: why dont you just use "sudo -i" to get a root shell
[11:15] <DerRaiden> does anyone know much about plasma 5 ?
[11:15] <DamBedEi> Okay, back again.
[11:16] <cfhowlett> DerRaiden, you mean kde plasma???
[11:16] <DamBedEi> So what shall I paste here?
[11:16] <k1l> zatan: what ever you need a root shell for. because usually you use sudo if a command needs root permissions and dont use the root shell
DamBedEi: can you pastebin the output of "sudo fdisk -l" (small L at the end)
[11:16] <MonkeyDust> !details | dvrr
[11:16] <zatan> k1l, root is just example it will be different user
[11:16] <k1l> DamBedEi: you need a live-ubuntu anyway.
[11:17] <DerRaiden> cfhowlett the new plasma 5
[11:17] <DerRaiden> cfhowlett from kde yes
[11:17] <DamBedEi> !paste
[11:17] <DamBedEi> k1l: how to paste here?
[11:17] <k1l> !paste | DamBedEi
[11:17] <DamBedEi> http://paste.ubuntu.com/10790779/
[11:18] <DamBedEi> ubottu: thanks
[11:18] <DamBedEi> k1l: http://paste.ubuntu.com/10790779/
[11:19] <k1l> DamBedEi: ok, its gpt partitiontable. try sudo parted -l
[11:20] <DamBedEi> k1l: http://paste.ubuntu.com/10790794/
[11:20] <colby_> hi folks can anyone help me upgrade GnuPG to version 2 for use with thunderbird/enigamail
[11:21] <MonkeyDust> colby_ start from the beginning, what have you tried so far and what is the end goal
[11:22] <k1l> DamBedEi: seems like the gpt partition table is corrupted somehow. i dont know what you did there and i am not familiar with gpt. maybe others can help
[11:23] <MonkeyDust> colby_ keep it in the channel
[11:23] <colby_> sry
[11:23] <k1l> DamBedEi: see if that answer helps: http://askubuntu.com/a/473073/31260
[11:24] <colby_> hi, I am new to linux so learning. I have enigmamail installed in thunderbird but keeps advising me to upgarde to version 2.0 gnupgp.
[11:24] <colby_> there is no built packages in ubuntu if I am saying this right
[11:25] <colby_> so it directs me too https://www.gnupg.org/download/index.html
[11:25] <SchrodingersScat> !info gnupg2 | colby_
[11:27] <colby_> how do I install that please.
[11:27] <cfhowlett> colby_, sudo apt-get install gnupg2
[11:27] <DamBedEi> k1l: Thank you. Hopefully someone else knows
[11:28] <colby_> ha thank you very much people :)
[11:28] <colby_> jeez that was easy lol
[11:28] <dvrr> how to copy screen short paste.ubuntu.com it's possible
[11:28] <MonkeyDust> dvrr try imgur
[11:31] <dvrr> imgur not available
[11:32] <mjayk> dvrr: https://imgur.com/ works for me
[11:32] <bazhang> dvrr what is available then, use that, like imgbin
[11:32] <dvrr> that is error screen short
[11:33] <BluesKaj> Hiyas all
[11:34] <DamBedEi> Please can someone help me with this?? http://askubuntu.com/questions/607576/can-not-find-root-partition --- really desperate already :(
[11:36] <ajnr> Hi, I was doing file transfer from one ubuntu machine (laptop) to another ubuntu machine (desktop) using cross cable, but after some time both the system unresponsive , after that I am unable to login my ubuntu system in laptop. but the desktop is running fine. So how to login in my ubuntu system. I can login in command prompt by pressing CLT_ALTf1, but not able to start GNOME Session. How to solve
[11:37] <OerHeks> DamBedEi, no, because it is EFI, you will have a fat32 boot partition to put grub on, so it is sdb2 or sdb3 or sdb7
[11:38] <OerHeks> my wild guess: sdb7
[11:38] <DamBedEi> OerHeks: hopefully not sdb7 because I also can't mount this one ... :'(
[11:38] <damiano_> help!
[11:39] <ajnr> help!
[11:39] <max3453453453534> In a C program if I create 10 pipes and spawn only 2 child processes that re-alias the appropriate ends of 1 of the pipes to communicate do I need to close the other 9 pipes?
[11:40] <OerHeks> just ask your question, damiano_
[11:40] <OerHeks> max3453453453534, ask in ##c ?
[11:40] <OerHeks> or ##c++
[11:40] <DamBedEi> OerHeks: I really think it is sdb7, but how do I mount it now?
[11:40] <max3453453453534> OerHeks: this is a unix question about pipes and file descriptors
[11:41] <max3453453453534> OerHeks: this is a linux quesetion*
[11:41] <geirha> you'll have 9 unused pipes. Whether you destroy them or keep them for later ... who are we to judge?
[11:42] <max3453453453534> geirha: will the program block because certain pipe ends aren't closed
[11:42] <damiano_> ok guys, here is my situation. I just installed ubuntu14.10, had some trouble since I'm using a nvidia gtx970 video card, now I have installed the latest drivers that are not officially supported... acceleration is on but unity is not working, I can log into X but windows border and the lateral bar are missing
[11:43] <geirha> max3453453453534: that only matters when you start reading from or writing to the pipe
[11:43] <ajnr> hi I am not able to login using Gnome but able to login in terminal
[11:44] <max3453453453534> geirha: you're saying if i never start reading or writing from the other other pipes the program won't block if I close the first pipe
[11:45] <k1l> ajnr: do a "ls -al" in that users home and see what is owned by root:root
[11:46] <ajnr> k1l, I have root:root ..
[11:46] <OerHeks> DamBedEi, maybe this manual is any help https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2/Installing#Reinstalling_GRUB_2 and https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UEFI
[11:46] <k1l> ajnr: for everything?
[11:47] <geirha> max3453453453534: the pipes themselves do nothing until you use them
[11:47] <k1l> ajnr: what does it say for .Xauthority?
[11:47] <ajnr> k1l, It shows like that only
[11:47] <ajnr> k1l, Its not there !
[11:47] <damiano_> ok I'm done, solved by myself, I had to enable unity in compizconfig-settings-manager, why it was disabled I have no idea
[11:47] <k1l> ajnr: what ubuntu is it?
[11:47] <ajnr> k1l, by mistake removed ,
[11:48] <ajnr> k1l, 14.04 LTS
[11:48] <k1l> ajnr: so what is the name of that user?
[11:48] <ajnr> k1l, kunal
[11:49] <Thenewone> goodmorningguys
[11:49] <k1l> ajnr: so "ls -al /home/kunal/" lists that everything is owned by root:root?
[11:49] <geirha> max3453453453534: Also, "closing a pipe" is ambigous. you don't close a pipe, you close its file descriptors.
[11:49] <ajnr> k1l, yes
[11:50] <ajnr> k1l, sorry , how to know that
[11:50] <Thenewone> good question
[11:50] <Thenewone> read man
[11:50] <Thenewone> the results
[11:50] <Thenewone> you will see user or root
[11:50] <ajnr> root:root show vminfo , .. .dbus.gvfs
[11:50] <ajnr> k1l, root:root show vminfo , .. .dbus.gvfs
[11:51] <ajnr> k1l, root:root show .vminfo , .. .dbus.gvfs
[11:51] <Thenewone> like :drwxr-xr-x root root 4069 .....................
[11:51] <ajnr> rest all are kunal:kunal k1l
[11:51] <max3453453453534> geirha: i can show you a program that will block unless i close the other 9 pairs of file descriptors that correspond to the other 9 pipes.
[11:51] <k1l> ajnr: "ls -al /home/kunal/.Xauthority"
[11:51] <Thenewone> guys is this good way to install vpn on ubuntu server http://www.howtogeek.com/51237/setting-up-a-vpn-pptp-server-on-debian/?PageSpeed=noscript ?
[11:51] <geirha> max3453453453534: ok
[11:51] <ajnr> k1l, its not there
[11:51] <ajnr> k1l, removed
[11:52] <max3453453453534> geirha: do you want to see it?
[11:52] <geirha> max3453453453534: sure
[11:52] <k1l> ajnr: ok, it should create that when trying to login on the login screen
[11:52] <Thenewone> i'm using ubuntu server
[11:53] <ajnr> k1l, actually , we were trying file sharing from laptop 0ubuntu to desktop-ubuntu , but after some time it became unresponsive , and after that I am unable to login in GNOME
[11:54] <k1l> ajnr: so what says "df -h"
[11:54] <ajnr> k1l, should I try to login again
[11:54] <k1l> ajnr: is the disk full?
[11:54] <ajnr> k1l, usage 84%
[11:55] <k1l> login on login screen
[11:55] <ajnr> k1l, total size 93 GB
[11:55] <Thenewone> any one good with scripts need help
[11:55] <ajnr> k1l, ok i am rebooting
[11:56] <ecksit> heya, i have a 8 character key apt key (1655A0AB68576280 for nodesource) but how can i get the full fingerprint?
[11:57] <ajnr> k1l, after rebooting I am trying to login but it seems same ! now what to do ? by the way previously by default it was main user "kunal", but now it shows default login is Guest session.
[11:58] <max3453453453534> geirha: http://pastebin.com/Wfs54ex9
[11:58] <max3453453453534> geirha: why does that program hang?
[11:58] <max3453453453534> geirha: you can skip to line 96
[11:59] <k1l> ajnr: what did you do there?
[11:59] <Thenewone> any one want help me to install vpn on ubuntu server ???
[12:00] <k1l> what files did you remove etc? seems like you broke your user. maybe try setting up a new user
[12:00] <OerHeks> ecksit, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Ubuntu#Authentication_Tab
[12:00] <k1l> ajnr: i got to leave now. maybe others can help
[12:00] <ecksit> thanks OerHeks
[12:00] <max3453453453534> geirha: here http://pastebin.com/c3vcCrjM even more damning. both pipes are closed in all 3 processes
[12:01] <ajnr> k1l, right now i tried to login again with correct credentials , but it flashed and goes back to the login same
[12:02] <geirha> max3453453453534: where does it hang?
[12:02] <k1l> ajnr: suod chown -R kunal:kunal /home/kunal/.dbus
[12:02] <k1l> ajnr: *sudo
[12:02] <max3453453453534> geirha: if you run ls -l | less it hangs
[12:02] <OerHeks> Thenewone, maybe this ubuntu howto is any help https://www.digitalocean.com/community/tutorials/how-to-set-up-an-openvpn-server-on-ubuntu-14-04
[12:02] <max3453453453534> geirha: it's a shell. if i execute 'ls -l | less' it hangs
[12:03] <ajnr> k1l, then
[12:03] <max3453453453534> geirha: actually shit i was wrong
[12:03] <geirha> max3453453453534: hang how? that should hang until less exits
[12:03] <ajnr> k1l, nothing happen
[12:03] <OerHeks> Thenewone, or the official docu https://help.ubuntu.com/community/OpenVPN
[12:04] <Thenewone> OerHeks, thanks
[12:04] <Thenewone> OerHeks, are you good with scripts i have one question
[12:05] <Thenewone> OerHeks, only one :D
[12:05] <OerHeks> Thenewone, no, no tthat good, anyway please ask here, someone might be able to help you
[12:05] <max3453453453534> geirha: here we go. this one hangs because less never exits because it blocks waiting for more input
[12:05] <max3453453453534> geirha: http://pastebin.com/krPY8z7V
[12:06] <max3453453453534> geirha: the question is why, since the second child process does close the correct file descriptors
[12:06] <Thenewone> guys i want add more than 3 line i use echo ????? > ..... and >> ... but >>> dont work for the third line how can i replace it to make it work
[12:06] <geirha> that is how less behaves. It requires user input from the terminal to exit
[12:07] <max3453453453534> geirha: no when less is ready for commands it shows END. here it doesn't show end
[12:07] <max3453453453534> geirha: i can't enter q
[12:07] <ioria> Thenewone, ?
[12:07] <max3453453453534> geirha: it is indeed block waiting for more data from the pipe
[12:08] <ioria> Thenewone, >>> not exists
[12:08] <ioria> Thenewone, > = write or overwrite , >> append mode
[12:08] <geirha> max3453453453534: ah wait, you connect less's stdout to a pipe as well
[12:09] <Thenewone> ioria, sorry
[12:09] <Thenewone> didnt understand
[12:09] <ioria> Thenewone, if you want to add lines to file ,use always '>>'
[12:10] <Thenewone> ioria, ok thanks
[12:10] <geirha> max3453453453534: or wait, no. that's only if numPipes is 2, but I'm guessing it's 1 in this case, in which case there's no dup(2)s
[12:10] <ioria> Thenewone, np
[12:11] <aavrug> Hello everyone
[12:11] <Thenewone> ioria, works
[12:11] <aavrug> Can anyone help me with ffmpeg?
[12:11] <ioria> Thenewone, -^_^-
[12:11] <geirha> max3453453453534: indentation is off, so it's hard to read
[12:12] <cfhowlett> aavrug, ffmpeg was deprecated but will return in ubuntu 15.* the recommended alternative is avconv which is included in the libav-tools package
[12:13] <fragment137> Greetings all
[12:13] <aavrug> cfhowlett, ok thanks.
[12:14] <fragment137> An update got pushed out for 14.04 recently and now after a few seconds I can't click on any windows. Menus/launcher still work, but can't click on any active windows (left or right). I've tried with multiple mice and the issue is even replicated through TeamViewer. Can anyone help?
[12:15] <geirha> max3453453453534: if the lines is "ls -l | less", then getPipes() will return 2, but there really is only one pipe, so you're creating a pipe too many it seems.
[12:15] <Thenewone> i want add some animation to my script how knows some ?
[12:15] <cfhowlett> Thenewone, ask ##bash
[12:15] <aavrug> cfhowlett, but besides that is there any way to save images with different name on new uploads?
[12:15] <ioria> Thenewone, youca use ncurses
[12:16] <cfhowlett> aavrug, explain a bit more?
[12:16] <dvrr> MonkeyDust: http://i.imgur.com/HhoWg2A.jpg please open this url i am getting this problem
[12:17] <aavrug> I am uploading a video and if the image-01.jpeg is present then new image is not creating for this new uploaded video
[12:17] <aavrug> here image-01.jpeg is creating from ffmpeg command
[12:18] <cfhowlett> aavrug, so it's a screenshot of your source video???
[12:18] <aavrug> cfhowlett, exactly
[12:18] <cfhowlett> aavrug, and you are uploading ONLY a video, not the .jpeg?
[12:19] <cfhowlett> aavrug, also: uploading to ??? youtube?
[12:19] <fragment137> Can anyone help my with my mouse issue? Very odd problems after the last update to 14.04 a few days ago
[12:20] <aavrug> cfhowlett, no there is a requirement that when a video will upload from local path, i have to set a thumbnail of that video.
[12:20] <LiohAu> anybody that can learn me how to configure wifi on command line? :(
[12:20] <aavrug> Only for local uploaded videos.
[12:20] <cfhowlett> aavrug, I'm a bit slow I know, but bear with me ... so you use ffmpeg/avconv to create the thumbnail?
[12:21] <aavrug> cfhowlett, yes
[12:21] <aavrug> cfhowlett, no probs
[12:21] <cfhowlett> aavrug, try this: no .jpeg, how about ... .png instead?
[12:22] <aavrug> cfhowlett, i don't have the problem with extension
[12:23] <cfhowlett> aavrug, that's actually a different image format, not merely an extension
[12:24] <max3453453453534> geirha: yes you're correct i realized that that example wasn't correct in the shower just now
[12:24] <aavrug> cfhowlett, i think you didn't understood. I have a form and from that the video is going to upload so there will be a lot of videos.
[12:25] <mohsen-rashidi> Hi. Is it possible to encrypt root partition after installation of Ubuntu?
[12:25] <max3453453453534> geirha: i have no idea. last night i was helping a friend and we were pulling our hair out about which file descriptors to close and when
[12:25] <aavrug> So if i change the extension once then in next upload what will i do?
[12:25] <cfhowlett> aavrug, quite possibly I don't understand. I never had this issue with youtube or vimeo uploads ...
[12:25] <geirha> max3453453453534: getPipes should return i-1; at least; but then your else-clause is missing the dup(2)-ing
[12:26] <cfhowlett> aavrug, on the theory that .jpeg is the specific problem, a non-jpeg might bypass the problem.
[12:26] <fragment137> I updated my Ubuntu yesterday and ever since, something has happened to my mouse input. different mice, and even a Teamviewer session has the same issue. I am able to see the mouse, I can (usually) click on launcher items and menu items no problem, but I am unable to click on any windows, move them, click on contents, etc.
[12:26] <max3453453453534> geirha: that's not the actual code. we had the counters right. anyway thank you for your help
[12:26] <aavrug> cfhowlett, let me try once more.
[12:26] <cfhowlett> aavrug, and you are sending to youtube??
[12:26] <aavrug> cfhowlett, no just storing that in local system.
[12:29] <dvrr> MonkeyDust
[12:30] <fragment137> ok simple(r) question. How can I verify that grub will timeout to my default os next time i reboot? I'm remote right now and need to reboot the machine. Want to make sure it's not going to get stuck on the boot screen
[12:31] <aavrug> cfhowlett, no same problem happening.
[12:31] <aavrug> cfhowlett, i have uploaded a video from my form then ffmpeg created a image with name "image-01.png" again filled the form and uploaded the same video then new image has not been created.
[12:31] <tsunamie> I wish to connect to a server using a password via ssh. However my temrinal is using my ssh key ment for a nother server. How do I force it to give me a username/password rather than using my key
[12:32] <cfhowlett> aavrug, then this is officially over my head. sorry. I think #ffmpeg is a thing
[12:33] <fragment137> tsunamie: when you type ssh <server IP> are you specifying a user?
[12:33] <tsunamie> yes
[12:33] <fragment137> so ssh [email protected] etc?
[12:33] <tsunamie> yes
[12:33] <aavrug> cfhowlett, it's ok thanks.
[12:33] <tsunamie> fragment137, yes
[12:34] <fragment137> tsunamie, forgive mf but I don't quite get what the issue is? you're saying that the remote server isn't accepting the credentials for the user you're trying to log in with?
[12:35] <tsunamie> fragment137, I have an authorized key file with an ssh key for serveb. I am trying to login to server A. Server A is telling me that the key is wrong. I have not got pub key on my user account on server A. I want it to promt me for a password
[12:36] <fragment137> Oh, interesting.
[12:36] <fragment137> sounds like Server B is using the key for all ssh sessions
[12:37] <fragment137> Give me a minute, let me see if I can dig anything up
[12:39] <fragment137> tsunamie on server b do you have "PasswordAuthentication" set to "No" in /etc/ssh/sshd.config?
[12:39] <Craigwell> Anyone aware of how I can tell Ubuntu *not* to charge my laptop battery? I'd like to maintain an 80% charge for longevity
[12:39] <fragment137> err
[12:39] <fragment137> sshd_config
[12:39] <Craigwell> I've been trying running without the battery, but short of duct taping the adapter plug in ... it's not dependable
[12:40] <Zerant> fragment137: didnt you mean „PubKeyAuthentication“?
[12:40] <fragment137> Zerant that was my next question, lol
[12:40] <Zerant> xD
[12:40] <fragment137> I want to find out if it's set globally or just by user
[12:40] <fragment137> or system wide
[12:41] <tsunamie> fragment137, one sec
[12:41] <fragment137> np
[12:41] <Zerant> it can be a file permission problem if the .ssh folder has more permission then 644
[12:43] <mantez> lfds
[12:44] <Guest69385> Craigwell: I think it depends upon the hardware, lenovo have some firmware / software for that
[12:44] <Guest69385> for thier laptops
Dell D620
[12:47] <OerHeks> Craigwell, does any OS allow you to " *not* to charge my laptop battery? " ?
[12:48] <fragment137> gaaahhh this mouse issue is driving me NUTS O_O
I do not know. I'm looking into it now
One hardware workaround with these dells is to use 65w charger, which will run the machine but not charge battery. That's fine, but I'd rather have an option to tell when and when not to charge
[12:50] <OerHeks> Craigwell, never seen such option, charge up to 80%, good luck
Yes, I've been charging them to 80% and removing, but want my butt covered when adapter falls out, brief power interruptions etc .
[12:52] <Craigwell> Thank you, I'll keep plugging at it
[13:02] <EugeneBandit> Hey! I've got some issues with a fresh install of ubuntu (14.04.2), it won't boot and will only drop to a initramfs shell. I tried some of the solutions (dumpe2fs, gparted, boot-repair) available in forums, with no luck. Any idea or suggestions ? Thanks
[13:02] <explosive> EugeneBandit: any errors before it drops?
[13:02] <EugeneBandit> yes! something along those lines : "ALERT! /dev/disk/by-uuid/xxxxxx... does not exist."
[13:02] <EugeneBandit> just in case, here is the boot-repair report : http://paste.ubuntu.com/10791327/
[13:03] <explosive> EugeneBandit: do you have a live usb?
[13:03] <desperate_joe> hello
[13:03] <EugeneBandit> explosive: yes
[13:03] <explosive> EugeneBandit: boot it
[13:04] <EugeneBandit> explosive: done
[13:04] <desperate_joe> need help with extreme slow internet: dual boot HP pavillion laptop, ubuntu 14 and win7, both use same home network: in win7 internet is ok, in ubuntu it is too slow, almost all pages in browser stop loading... can anyone help me?
[13:05] <explosive> EugeneBandit: type sudo blkid
[13:05] <explosive> EugeneBandit: paste it in paste.ubuntu.com
[13:06] <hkrrsx> morning
[13:06] <bogdan> hi everyone
[13:06] <explosive> morning
[13:06] <ebandit_broken> explosive: i'll paste through here for simplicity : http://paste.ubuntu.com/10791397/
[13:07] <explosive> ok
[13:07] <bogdan> how can i make that damn keyring stuff to disappear? it shows me everytime i open my laptop
[13:07] <explosive> ebandit_broken: type sudo mount /dev/sda5 /mnt
[13:07] <explosive> then type ls /mnt
[13:08] <desperate_joe> dual boot HP pavillion laptop, ubuntu 14 and win7, both use same home network: in win7 internet is ok, in ubuntu it is too slow, almost all pages in browser stop loading... can anyone help me?
[13:08] <ebandit_broken> explosive: done! returns no errors, and lists some files
[13:08] <explosive> ebandit_broken: what files?
[13:08] <explosive> is it the installation
[13:08] <ebandit_broken> explosive: user directory and lost+found
[13:08] <ebandit_broken> yes i think so
[13:08] <explosive> ok it's your home dir
[13:09] <explosive> type sudo umount /mnt
[13:09] <explosive> then type sudo mount /dev/sda1 /mnt
[13:09] <PCatinean> guys
[13:09] <PCatinean> when I get screenshre via skype I cannot distinguish any letters
[13:09] <PCatinean> not to mention that I cannot use my camera
[13:09] <ebandit_broken> explosive: no errors, and lists dirs from what looks like /
[13:09] <PCatinean> does anyone know why this happens?
[13:10] <explosive> ebandit_broken: ok
[13:10] <explosive> ebandit_broken: type cat /mnt/fstab
[13:10] <explosive> ebandit_broken: type cat /mnt/etc/fstab
[13:10] <ebandit_broken> explosive: http://paste.ubuntu.com/10791445/
[13:11] <PCatinean> any advice?
[13:12] <salvatore> buonasera c'è qualcuno che può aiutarmi?
[13:12] <cfhowlett> !it | salvatore english only, please
[13:12] <salvatore> tank you
[13:13] <slipttees> libimobiledevice 1.2.0 i need :-(
[13:14] <explosive> ebandit_broken: type for i in /dev /dev/pts /proc /run /sys; do sudo mount -B $i /mnt$i; done
[13:15] <slipttees> libimobiledevice 1.2.0 i need , to use iPhone iOS 8.3 :-(
[13:15] <desperate_joe> dual boot HP pavillion laptop, ubuntu 14 and win7, both use same home network: in win7 internet is ok, in ubuntu it is too slow, almost all pages in browser stop loading... can anyone help me?
[13:15] <ebandit_broken> explosive: done; no errors
[13:15] <slipttees> release version in 14.04 LTS?
[13:15] <explosive> ebandit_broken: sudo chroot /mnt
[13:15] <hkrrsx> slipttees: http://askubuntu.com/questions/598940/libimobiledevice-1-2-ios-8-support-for-ubuntu-14-04-trusty
[13:15] <OerHeks> slipttees, there is no 1.2.0, utopic and next version vivid have 1.1.6 https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/utopic/+source/libimobiledevice
[13:16] <ebandit_broken> explosive: done, still no errors
[13:16] <slipttees> libimobiledevice 1.2.0 is stable
[13:16] <OerHeks> hkrrsx +1
[13:16] <explosive> ebandit_broken: update-initramfs -u
[13:16] <OerHeks> slipttees, so build it yourself, see the port of hkrrsx
[13:17] <slipttees> OerHeks, I compile last version
[13:17] <ebandit_broken> explosive: done! seems to have worked alright
[13:17] <slipttees> OerHeks, .configure, make and make install put won't work
[13:17] <slipttees> :/
[13:17] <explosive> ebandit_broken: update-grub
[13:18] <OerHeks> slipttees, seems like you have not installed the build essentials
[13:18] <OerHeks> !build
[13:18] <ebandit_broken> explosive: done! no errors. reboot ?
[13:18] <explosive> ebandit_broken: type exit then reboot
[13:18] <desperate_joe> dual boot HP pavillion laptop, ubuntu 14 and win7, both use same home network: in win7 internet is ok, in ubuntu it is too slow, almost all pages in browser stop loading... can anyone help me?
[13:18] <slipttees> OerHeks, yes, install every dev necessary, but wont work.
[13:19] <EugeneBandit> explosive: same error, dropping into initramfs
[13:19] <OerHeks> slipttees, paste the errors you get op paste.ubuntu.com please
[13:20] <OerHeks> "won't work" is such a wide answer
[13:20] <explosive> EugeneBandit: what's the error exactly
[13:20] <slipttees> OerHeks, no erro... make install successful
[13:22] <EugeneBandit> explosive: http://paste.ubuntu.com/10791520/
[13:22] <OerHeks> slipttees, funny, that guide does not mention make / install
[13:24] <explosive> EugeneBandit: boot the live usb again
[13:25] <EugeneBandit> explosive: i'm in
[13:26] <explosive> type sudo mount /dev/sda1 /mnt
[13:26] <pbx> why do i get a "chrome did not shut down correctly" message after a normal restart? is chrome really so frail that it needs to be manually quit first?
[13:26] <explosive> ebandit_broken: for i in /dev /dev/pts /proc /run /sys; do sudo mount -B $i /mnt$i; done
[13:26] <explosive> ebandit_broken: sudo chroot /mnt
[13:26] <Elench> How do I use a WM that isn't Unity?
[13:26] <[n0mad]> pbx, it's because you have chrome running in the background, at least that's what i've seen and found from reading about it
[13:27] <Elench> Sorry if dumb >.>
[13:27] <ebandit_broken> explosive: yes, done.
[13:27] <OerHeks> pbx yes
[13:27] <[n0mad]> pbx, if you manually exit chrome running in background before the restart, it won't happen
[13:27] <explosive> type update-initramfs -u -k all
[13:27] <OerHeks> Elench, logout, change WM, login
[13:27] <pbx> [n0mad], it was running in normal foreground mode
[13:27] <Elench> OerHeks: I see no option on login screen
[13:28] <hkrrsx> Elench: sudo apt-get install <desktop_environment_of_choice>
[13:28] <pbx> [n0mad], but perhaps a background one got started somehow :\
[13:28] <ebandit_broken> explosive: done! update-grub ? just in case, there is also a update-grub2 command available
[13:28] <OerHeks> Elench, sure there is, the icon maybe?
[13:29] <[n0mad]> pbx, there's apparently some way to change it, i don't remember what I read. for me it's not that big of a deal i just go to my home page or close the message and continue. but there is some file modification you can make apparently that will cause that not to happen.
[13:29] <explosive> ebandit_broken: it's the same command
[13:29] <explosive> ebandit_broken: type cat /etc/default/grub
[13:30] <pbx> [n0mad], interesting, thanks. at least it's a "known issue" even if i don't care to know more about it :)
[13:30] <ebandit_broken> explosive: so I didn't type update-grub, right ?
[13:30] <explosive> yeah not yet
[13:30] <LiohAu> can anybody explain me how is it possible that I can SSH on my eth0 with i'm not wired? oO
[13:30] <LiohAu> eth0 ip*
[13:30] <Elench> Nope, none of the icons on the login screen do that
[13:31] <ebandit_broken> explosive: okay, http://paste.ubuntu.com/10791571/
[13:31] <desperate_joe> dual boot HP pavillion laptop, ubuntu 14 and win7, both use same home network: in win7 internet is ok, in ubuntu it is too slow, almost all pages in browser stop loading... can anyone help me?
[13:31] <ewooy> Does anybody have any good resources for developing for Ubuntu Phone? Particulary background services? Is it possible to build media player with current state of ubuntu phone?
[13:31] <OerHeks> ewooy, join #ubuntu-touch for phone and development please
[13:32] <ewooy> OerHeks: Thanks Havent seen that info in guidlines
[13:32] <OerHeks> ewooy, see the topic there, lots of info
[13:32] <hkrrsx> LiohAu: SSH doesn't seem to have that capability
[13:32] <hkrrsx> LiohAu: However, you should read the SSH man page for further details
[13:33] <LiohAu> hkrrsx: I'm already connected.. I just would like to understand why I can connect
[13:33] <LiohAu> it should not be possible to connect using the ethernet interface IP if the interface is not connected oO
[13:33] <FL3SH_> someone use motion?
[13:33] <hkrrsx> LiohAu: How are you sure it's connected via eth0 ?
[13:33] <OerHeks> LiohAu, maybe your other eth1 or wlan0 is taking over that IP?
[13:34] <LiohAu> OerHeks: is it possible that the wlan interface take over?
[13:34] <LiohAu> when I run ifconfig, the wlan has another IP
[13:34] <OerHeks> LiohAu, not a running ssh session.
[13:34] <explosive> ebandit_broken: try update-grub
[13:34] <CosCap> Hello
[13:34] <desperate_joe> can somebody please help me?
[13:34] <desperate_joe> dual boot HP pavillion laptop, ubuntu 14 and win7, both use same home network: in win7 internet is ok, in ubuntu it is too slow, almost all pages in browser stop loading... can anyone help me?
[13:35] <ebandit_broken> explosive: done. exit and reboot ?
[13:35] <LiohAu> well the ifconfig reports 1.21 for eth0, and 1.19 for wlan3, there are no other interfaces, and ssh 192.168.1.21 works
[13:35] <explosive> ebandit_broken: ok
[13:36] <hkrrsx> LiohAu: You're SSH'ing to yourself?
[13:36] <LiohAu> no
[13:36] <OerHeks> LiohAu, are you running ssh from that box to an other machine or to your box?
[13:36] <FL3SH_> how setup motin to work in LAN?
[13:36] <LiohAu> a machine, to another machine
[13:36] <LiohAu> (the box is obviously in the middle)
[13:36] <EugeneBandit> explosive: still dropping to initramfs
[13:36] <OerHeks> LiohAu, oh. so ssh'ing out is working, so you really wonder?
[13:37] <explosive> EugeneBandit: ok, press e over the ubuntu entry in grub
[13:37] <LiohAu> OerHeks: It shoud not work if I use 1.21.
[13:37] <explosive> EugeneBandit: first did you try an older kernel?
[13:37] <explosive> advanced > ..
[13:38] <LiohAu> with 1.19 I would understand since it's the wlan3 interface IP, but 1.21 is associated to a disconnected interface
[13:38] <hkrrsx> LiohAu: OerHeks: What probably happened is wlan3 automatically took over when eth0 was unplugged
[13:38] <EugeneBandit> explosive: i didn't, i don't think i have any older kernel since it's a fresh install. i typed e in grub
[13:38] <OerHeks> LiohAu, how do you use *.*.1.21 to ssh out?
[13:38] <LiohAu> hkrrsx: is there a way to disable this behavior?
[13:38] <explosive> EugeneBandit: ok, in the line that sayd linux vmlinuz .... quiet splash try removing the root= part
[13:38] <bogdan> what is askpass?
[13:38] <hkrrsx> LiohAu: Turn off your wireless card/network settings when you're hard-wired
[13:39] <LiohAu> ..
[13:39] <hkrrsx> No kidding.
[13:39] <LiohAu> OerHeks: you wanted to know how do I ssh ? "$ ssh 192.168.1.21"
[13:39] <LiohAu> as everybody with ssh I guess ^^
[13:40] <EugeneBandit> explosive: still dropping into initramfs, but new error, i'll paste it in a few
[13:41] <explosive> EugeneBandit: try root=/dev/sda1
[13:41] <EugeneBandit> explosive: alright, i'll try it. here's the error if it's relevant : http://paste.ubuntu.com/10791617/
[13:42] <OerHeks> LiohAu, i do not really understand, you have eth0 with *.*.1.21 and wlan3 *.*.1.19, and you ssh out to yourself?
[13:43] <EugeneBandit> explosive: tried /dev/sda1, back to the first error with "ALERT! /dev/sda1 does not exist".
[13:44] <explosive> EugeneBandit: ok, try adding rootdelay=3 after quiet splash
[13:44] <LiohAu> I have 1 pc with a given IP (I don't know which ip it is, and we don't care), and I am trying to ssh to another pc which has 2 interfaces, eth0 (1.21) and wlan3 (1.19), RJ45 cable is not connected, and I don't understand why "ssh 192.168.1.21" still works. I assume that the OS is using the WLAN interface transparently, but I don't see why it does that.
[13:44] <LiohAu> Actually it's like if the wlan interface was a gateway for the eth0 interface...
[13:45] <OerHeks> LiohAu, now you are clear, yes, i think too that the wlan takes over, never seen that before.
[13:45] <EugeneBandit> explosive: replacing the "root=UUID=..." with "root=/dev/sda1" again with the rootdelay ?
[13:45] <explosive> yeah
[13:46] <EugeneBandit> explosive: same again
[13:47] <explosive> which ubuntu is this
[13:47] <EugeneBandit> explosive: xubuntu 14.04.2 (kernel 3.16.something)
[13:47] <explosive> EugeneBandit: boot the live usb again
[13:48] <LiohAu> well next quesiton: I think I have messed up something with the window manager. When the boot is finished, the screen remains black but I still have the cursor.
[13:48] <bananabob> hey all, i have a script that i need to run (with sudo) from users 14.04 that needs to end with a logout. That seems hard to do, gnome-session-quit wont work without the proper ENVs in place and service lightdm restart will only end up in blackscreen with cursor blinking. Any ideas
[13:49] <ebandit_broken> explosive: done
[13:50] <LiohAu> (the missing question was : how do I fix that :P)
[13:50] <explosive> ebandit_broken: type sudo dumpe2fs /dev/sda1 | grep superblock
[13:51] <hkrrsx> bananabob: “/usr/bin/gnome-session-save --kill” ?
[13:51] <hkrrsx> bananabob: See section (C) Logoff Gnome from this URL: http://www.cyberciti.biz/tips/linux-desktop-how-to-shutdown-restart-or-logoff-gnome-via-commandlauncher.html
[13:51] <ebandit_broken> explosive: there are superblocks
[13:51] <explosive> what's the first backup one?
[13:51] <explosive> 32768?
[13:51] <ebandit_broken> yes
[13:52] <explosive> ebandit_broken: ok, type sudo fsck -b 32768 /dev/sda1
[13:52] <ebandit_broken> explosive: do i type "y" to each "Fix?" ?
[13:53] <explosive> yeah
[13:53] <ebandit_broken> explosive: done
[13:53] <explosive> ok
[13:53] <explosive> try mounting it
[13:54] <explosive> sudo mount /dev/sda1 /mnt
[13:54] <ebandit_broken> explosive: done, ls /mnt returns dirs from a root dir
[13:54] <explosive> ok
[13:54] <explosive> try to reboot
[13:55] <bananabob> hkrrsx: Thanks but there is no gnome-session-save on 14.04
[13:55] <EugeneBandit> explosive: rebooting... do i change the "root=" ?
[13:55] <explosive> nah
[13:56] <Elench> Hmm, I got StumpWM working, but now something to do with keyboard maps is catching Control-Space
[13:56] <Elench> How do I make it stop?
[13:57] <EugeneBandit> explosive: back to the first error message
[13:57] <explosive> that sucks
[13:57] <explosive> try a larger rootdelay maybe
[13:59] <hkrrsx> bananabob: The only other thing I'm seeing is to kill the user's entire session
[13:59] <hkrrsx> http://bash.cyberciti.biz/desktop/logoff-kdegnome-desktop-user/
[14:00] <EugeneBandit> explosive: same error. :(
[14:01] <explosive> EugeneBandit: ok boot the live usb
[14:01] <EugeneBandit> explosive: that might not be relevant, but i used to run kxstudio (ubuntu based), that i upgraded to kernel 3.19.1, then downgraded to 3.16 and _i think_, i tried to reinstall this newer version with reboot the system first after downgrading
[14:01] <EugeneBandit> and by newer version, i mean, this xubuntu iso
[14:01] <bananabob> hkrrsx, thanks, but that leaves me in black screen with curser kind of mode :/
[14:01] <bananabob> cursor *
[14:01] <explosive> EugeneBandit: i dont follow
[14:01] <EugeneBandit> explosive: arrrh, sorry. i meant i didn't reboot the system after downgrading the system
[14:02] <hkrrsx> bananabob: If " pkill -u <USER_ID> " doesn't do the trick for you, I'm out of options
[14:03] <explosive> EugeneBandit: what do you mean you installed this without rebooting?
[14:03] <explosive> EugeneBandit: you booted the live usb and installed right?
[14:03] <EugeneBandit> explosive: this goes from KXStudio 14.04 (kernel 3.13) updated to kernel 3.19.1 in command line, then the package manager downgraded the kernel to, i think, wiped install before properly rebooting the system
[14:03] <bananabob> yeah that will be my fall-back, i was hoping for a built in gracious solution but im stumped too :) Thanks for helping though!
[14:03] <EugeneBandit> sorry, for my clumsy fingers and head : downgraded to 3.13
[14:04] <EugeneBandit> damn, downgraded to 3.16 actually
[14:04] <EugeneBandit> explosive: yes
[14:05] <EugeneBandit> explosive: i meant to say, in the previous system, i updated the kernel without reboot the system proprely. just after the update, i booted on the live CD and installed a fresh xubuntu 14.04
[14:05] <EugeneBandit> i wonder if that might be related
[14:05] <explosive> EugeneBandit: oh ok
[14:05] <explosive> no i dont think so
[14:06] <explosive> did the live usb boot?
[14:06] <EugeneBandit> explosive: yes
[14:06] <explosive> ok, chroot as usual
[14:07] <explosive> type sudo mount /dev/sda1 /mnt
[14:07] <explosive> ebandit_broken: type for i in /dev /dev/pts /proc /run /sys; do sudo mount -B $i /mnt$i; done
[14:07] <EugeneBandit> explosive: just in case, the first install i tried, i chose a crypted setup with LVM. trying the commands now
[14:08] <explosive> might as well sudo mount /dev/sda5 /mnt/home
[14:09] <NotYourAvgGoat> Whenever I plugin my headphone i get this https://i.imgur.com/jlHXUjZ.png annoying popup
[14:09] <ebandit_broken> explosive: done
[14:09] <explosive> EugeneBandit: then sudo chroot /mnt
[14:09] <explosive> ebandit_broken: apt-get update && apt-get dist-upgrade
[14:10] <Elench> Sorry, had connection problems, is there a way to stop the keyboard map switcher stealing control+space?
[14:13] <Mate__> hello, could smbdy help with black screen after loading ?
[14:14] <explosive> !nomodeset | Mate__ try this
[14:14] <jrtappers> Is there anything that should be done about UDP traffic and iptables that is different to default?
[14:14] <jrtappers> I just saw a UDP scan for a list of random ports with a forged source, and wondered if there is a common config mistake it is trying to exploit
[14:15] <lesshaste> where do I set a static ip address? Currently I am using dhcp. I thought it was in /etc/network/interfaces but that only shows auto lo
[14:15] <lesshaste> iface lo inet loopback
[14:15] <Elench> I've turned the shortcut off in gnome-control-centre but it still happens
[14:15] <jrtappers> lesshaste, Ubuntu server?
[14:16] <lesshaste> jrtappers, I am running a normal ubuntu desktop
[14:16] <Mate__> will it help me if i dont have X, Unity . screen is more blacker, i cant get console by ctrl alt f11?
[14:16] <jrtappers> lesshaste, Should be able to do it in the networking menu
[14:16] <lesshaste> jrtappers, I would like to know which config file it is
[14:17] <ebandit_broken> explosive: done!
[14:17] <explosive> ebandit_broken: ok, type dpkg -l | grep linux-image
[14:17] <jrtappers> lesshaste, https://help.ubuntu.com/lts/serverguide/network-configuration.html <Static IP address assignment>
[14:18] <ebandit_broken> explosive: http://paste.ubuntu.com/10791863/
[14:18] <lesshaste> jrtappers, it does say /etc/network/interfaces
[14:19] <jrtappers> lesshaste, I think that is the right file, but there may be multiple ways
[14:19] <lesshaste> jrtappers, there is no sign of dhcp in that file. Maybe the graphical network config file uses some of other file
[14:21] <explosive> ebandit_broken: ok, type exit and try to reboot i gues
[14:23] <madsj> hi; how do I get the applications menu in the top bar?
[14:23] <jrtappers> lesshaste, Network Manager uses the files in /etc/NetworkManager/
[14:24] <EugeneBandit> explosive: it works! thank you very much
[14:24] <explosive> great, no problem
[14:24] <EugeneBandit> explosive: do you know what kind of problem that was ?
[14:25] <explosive> who knows :D
[14:25] <guest-rMo2aA> hy, I think I made noobish mistake. I deleted my password like this: "sudo passwd -d <UserName>" . Trouble is I can't log back in, I'm ussing lubuntu. Can anyone help?
[14:25] <EugeneBandit> ahah :D
[14:25] <explosive> cause the dist-upgrade fixed it
[14:25] <explosive> might be the newer kernel, or who knows what
[14:25] <xangua> madsj: open Appearence settings and you can set it in the second tab
[14:25] <EugeneBandit> explosive: yeah! that's surprising because i think i tried almost everything we did, but now it works! :)
[14:26] <guest-rMo2aA> I tried "passwordless", "password", "", but nothing works
[14:26] <jrtappers> guest-rMo2aA, Real machine?
[14:26] <explosive> EugeneBandit: yeah it was pretty odd!
[14:27] <EugeneBandit> explosive: thank you again! have a nice day :)
[14:27] <guest-rMo2aA> I think yes. I'm not using virtualization
[14:27] <explosive> np, you too :)
[14:27] <madsj> xangua: not quite .. :-(
[14:27] <guest-rMo2aA> jrtappers, i don't use ssh or WM ware
[14:27] <madsj> No settings found it in there enables it
[14:28] <jrtappers> guest-rMo2aA, Are you using the machine for this chat window?
[14:28] <guest-rMo2aA> jrolland-ubuntu, no i'm using the guest account
[14:28] <hkrrsx> lesshaste: How to setup a static IP in Ubuntu GUI -- https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o9fJWDoX4nE
[14:28] <guest-rMo2aA> jrolland-ubuntu, I mean yes :)
[14:29] <guest-rMo2aA> jrolland-ubuntu, sorry I' didn't mean you
[14:29] <jrtappers> guest-rMo2aA, You will want to boot into single user mode to reset it, blank passwords are not really used much in linux
[14:29] <xangua> madsj: sure quite, you have two options: show menus in panel or tittle window
[14:29] <xangua> I'm asuming you are using unity
[14:30] <killall> hello is there a way i can make ntpdate to a server with stratum 16? (i dont care if it is bad or not)
[14:30] <jrtappers> guest-rMo2aA, why do you want no password?
[14:30] <guest-rMo2aA> jrtappers, great how do I start in single user mode?
[14:30] <jrtappers> killall, stratum 16 is unsynced
[14:31] <guest-rMo2aA> jrtappers, I was just playing around, I wasan't expecting it to turn out like this
[14:31] <killall> jrtappers: i know but when i do ntpdate it does not do because of stratum, how can i force even with stratum 16?
[14:31] <guest-rMo2aA> jrtappers, the manual said it will delete the password I didn't expected any of this really
[14:32] <madsj> xangua: I was talking about the Applications menu with all applications installed, not the one for the program currently used
[14:32] <jrtappers> guest-rMo2aA, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecoveryMode
[14:32] <jrtappers> killall, what is the error
[14:33] <killall> stratum to high jrtappers
[14:33] <jrtappers> killall, what are you syncing to?
[14:44] <jrtappers> Is there a way to make psad ignore small amounts of pings
[14:45] <chrislp> Hi, if /dev/sda is mounted at / and /dev/sdb is mounted at /home, would loading a program that needs to access a config file from /home/.config cause the hard drive to start spinning physically and make noise?
[14:46] <jrtappers> chrislp, if /home is on that drive then probably
[14:47] <chrislp> thanks jrtappers
[14:51] <ioria> jrtappers, you cannot limit the number of packets ?
[14:52] <jrtappers> ioria, Its more that a single ping from a host shows as the same threat level as a backdoor attempt...
[14:56] <Voyage> HI
[14:56] <Voyage> I had skype but had problems with voice, I tried to download skype.deb from skype.com. Installed it and this happened at boot (something to do with libjson.c.s0.2): Kernal panic. not syncing. attempt to kill init. exit code: 0x00007f0. cpu pid 1 comm init not tainted. 3.14.033 gen... $ 44 ubuntu hardware name dell inc lattitude d630. dump stack do group exit. sys exit. sys call fast path. kernel
[14:56] <Voyage> offset.
[14:57] <Voyage> my system dont boot. caps lock and other lights blink. any thing that can fix it/
[14:57] <Voyage> ?
[14:58] <genii> Voyage: If all three of your keyboard lights are blinking on and off this indicates a kernel crash
[14:58] <Voyage> genii ok. why would kernel crash due to skkyp?
[14:58] <Voyage> genii and what the solution
[14:59] <hkrrsx> Voyage: Reboot ?
[14:59] <Voyage> hkeide did that many times. same message
[14:59] <genii> Voyage: At the grub screen try to select the previous kernel
[14:59] <Voyage> genii did that
[14:59] <Voyage> genii did recovermode too
[14:59] <Voyage> same message
[14:59] <hkrrsx> Voyage: Remove skype ?
[15:00] <Voyage> hkeide dont have control. can even login
[15:00] <hkrrsx> via Recovery Mode
[15:00] <Voyage> cant
[15:00] <Voyage> recovery mode says the same message
[15:00] <genii> Voyage: Looks like you'll have to boot from external media liks livecd/liveusb. chroot into your installed system, and remove skype
[15:00] * genii wanders back to work for a bit
[15:00] <Voyage> genii ok. I can boot from live cd. but how to chroot?
[15:02] <hkrrsx> Voyage: Watch this YouTube video to get into Single User Mode on Ubuntu --- https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PlA1vmEn3UY
[15:03] <hkrrsx> You should be able to get to a command line prompt using that technique
[15:03] <Voyage> k
[15:03] <hkrrsx> STOP at 2:33
[15:03] <ioria> Voyage, youhaveto mount your partitions
[15:03] <hkrrsx> DO NOT reset the root password
[15:04] <ioria> Voyage, and the chroot in your mounted partition
[15:05] <Voyage> hkrrsx ok
[15:05] <Voyage> ioria how to chroot
[15:05] <ioria> Voyage, sudo chroot /dev/bla/bla
[15:05] <Voyage> what will this do?
[15:06] <ioria> Voyage, first : sudo fdisk -l
[15:06] <ioria> Voyage, first : then mkdir somewhere
[15:07] <Voyage> k
[15:07] <ioria> Voyage, then mount your linux partition, chroot in that, and remove program
[15:07] <Voyage> how to remove skype? by apt-get remov?
[15:08] <stanmcm> Hello! I'm trying to track down a memory leak. Out of 8 gigs I have less than 200 meg free. This is after shutting down all known services and virtual machines. Are there built in tools I can use? what I see in top isn't adding up to 8gig, or even close to it.
[15:08] <Voyage> ioria obviously apt wont work as I wont be on that system as a logged in user
[15:08] <genii> Voyage: Before you do the chroot command, you need to bindmount certain directories into the place you will be chrooting to. these are the /proc /sys /dev and optionally if you want network, copy the /etc/fstab file from the live session to the mounted etc directory.
[15:08] <ioria> Voyage, remove or purge, yes
[15:08] <genii> Voyage: Better to purge
[15:09] <Voyage> genii dont you think that apt wont work as I wont be on that system as a logged in user
[15:09] <Voyage> I mean the live cd system would be different than my HDD /
[15:09] <genii> Voyage: chroot puts you on that box as root
[15:09] <Voyage> oh.
[15:09] <Voyage> so I just chroot /path/to/the/problematic/root/partition ?
[15:10] <genii> Voyage: If you really wanted, you could su to that user, but for package removals or such root is what you require anyhow
[15:10] <genii> Voyage: First bindmount those dirs
[15:10] <Voyage> genii I woulud just chroot the root / of the old system
[15:10] <genii> Voyage: My work requires me. I will be back and forth from computer
[15:10] <Voyage> o
[15:10] <Voyage> ok
[15:10] <Voyage> thanks
[15:11] <genii> Voyage: If you only just chroot and try removing packages it will fail
[15:11] <genii> bindmounting those dirs first required
[15:11] <genii> afk
[15:11] <Elench> I solved my immediate problems, I'd just like to thank those who gave suggestions
[15:11] <Voyage> genii I will mount th partition in normal way first
[15:11] <ioria> Voyage, if apt-get remove doesn't work, try the full path /usr/bin/apt-get
[15:11] <Voyage> ioria right. thanks
[15:18] <Blueking> anyone has experience with xmlrpc`?
[15:24] <bloodytearz> hello guys anyone can help me with one matter regarding kubuntu ? i asked in kubuntu channel but i guess noone there
[15:25] <Voyage> ioria, I have chrooted now and can use apt but when I try to resolve things. it says E: Failed to fetch http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/j/json-c/libjson-c2_0.11-4ubuntu1_amd64.deb Could not resolve 'us.archive.ubuntu.com'
[15:26] <Voyage> looks like after chroot, I cant use network
[15:26] <ioria> Voyage, ping 8.8.8.8
[15:26] <Voyage> unkonw host
[15:26] <Voyage> ioria, wait
[15:26] <Voyage> 8.8.8.8 is pingable. but google.com is not
[15:27] <ioria> Voyage, can you use network manager ?
[15:27] <ioria> Voyage, preference -> network connection
[15:27] <Voyage> ioria, yes but the network manager would be of live cd. not of the chrooted /
[15:27] <genii> Voyage: exit the chroot with: exit Then: cp /etc/resolv.conf /mountplace/etc/resolv.conf then chroot back in again
[15:27] <imbezol> Voyage: try "host google.com 8.8.8.8"
[15:28] <genii> mountplace is the dir you have where you ounted the old system
[15:28] * genii wanders back to work for a bit
[15:28] <colby_> hi I have just installed pgp and was wondering if someone wants to help me test so I know what I am at. Thanks
[15:28] <Voyage> imbezol, google.com has address 173.194.45.66
[15:28] <Voyage> genii, ok
[15:30] <Voyage> what genii said is working
[15:30] <matt|home> sigh. hi. so i just did a fresh install of 14.10 , and after messin around with some drivers everything seemed to be working fine. then out of nowhere, after i login the top and left menus in gnome are missing. all i see is my desktop background
[15:30] <Voyage> genii, I cannot now do sh: 1: cannot create /dev/null: Permission denied
[15:30] <matt|home> can someone tell me how i can fix this please?
[15:30] <Voyage> why is that
[15:31] <Voyage> ioria, genii it says /var/lib/dpkg/info/libjson-c2:amd64.postinst: 17: /var/lib/dpkg/info/libjson-c2:amd64.postinst: cannot create /dev/null: Permission denied
[15:31] <genii> Voyage: As I said like 2 or 3 times, before chroot you have to bindmount the /dev /proc and /sys of the booted system into the ones of the place you want to chroot to.
[15:31] <genii> ( before you chroot there)
[15:32] <imbezol> mknod /pathtochroot/dev/null c 1 3
[15:32] <matt|home> hey genii , can i get some of that goodwill of yours for a bit of help? :P <3 plz? xoxo
[15:32] <matt|home> i can pay you in huggles
[15:33] <rgammon51_> On 15.04 with all updates applied, Desktop edition
[15:33] <Voyage> genii, amm.... I really didnt got you as I am not so experienced. my old system is mounted at : /media/kubuntu/0b3a1c13-1b28-4ae8-b8df-ef3adc71c37d/ so i just chroot /media/kubuntu/0b3a1c13-1b28-4ae8-b8df-ef3adc71c37d/ . I thnk you want me to exit and do some bindmout (whats that?) and chroot again.
[15:34] <rgammon51_> Nfs server reports no errors on start, stop, restart, and showmounts shows nothing
[15:34] <genii> Voyage: Easiest is: exit chroot again. then: mount -o bind /dev /mountpoint/dev ...do this same command 2 more times, once for proc and once for sys ... then chroot back in
[15:34] <genii> matt|home: I'm somewhat spread thin right now, perhaps in 45 mi nutes when my lunch is
[15:35] <OerHeks> rgammon51_, please join #ubuntu+1 for vivid support.
[15:35] <OerHeks> * until release
[15:35] <Voyage> genii, so mount -o bind /dev /media/kubuntu/0b3a1c13-1b28-4ae8-b8df-ef3adc71c37d//dev
[15:35] <rgb-one> matt|home: you are using Ubuntu Gnome?
[15:35] <Voyage> genii, sudo mount -o bind /dev /media/kubuntu/0b3a1c13-1b28-4ae8-b8df-ef3adc71c37d//dev
[15:35] <matt|home> yeah.
[15:36] <rgb-one> matt|home: What graphics card are you using?
[15:36] <matt|home> 14.10 , uh .. nvidia i think. one moment
[15:36] <xyzwhatever> help, I increased the disk size of my virtualbox ubuntu, but the stupid ubuntu still thinks it has the small disk,. how do I tell it ???
[15:36] <matt|home> 00:0d.0 VGA compatible controller: NVIDIA Corporation C61 [GeForce 6150SE nForce 430] (rev a2)
[15:36] <cfhowlett> xyzwhatever, reinstall
[15:36] <xyzwhatever> :(
[15:36] <xyzwhatever> all my software gone?
[15:37] <rgb-one> matt|home: do you have the noveau and nv graphics drivers installed?
[15:37] <cfhowlett> xyzwhatever, ask #vbox the reason why
[15:37] <OerHeks> xyzwhatever, old answer, still valid : http://askubuntu.com/questions/101715/resizing-virtual-drive
[15:37] <rgb-one> !xf86
[15:38] <matt|home> after i type in my login password, the screen briefly resizes and i dont see the left/top menus, right clickign doesn't do anything
[15:38] <rgb-one> !noveau
[15:38] <matt|home> rgb-one : yeah , i had to manually remove noveau and add the nvidia driver myself. it was working a few minutes ago
[15:38] <matt|home> for like half hour
[15:38] <Happy1> Does anyone know that works like magic terminal tool, that can download streaming videos? I want to download "http://iview.abc.net.au/programs/checkout/LE1402H001S00#playing"
[15:38] <rgb-one> !nouveau
[15:38] <till> Hello, I have issues with handbrake and my dvd drive ... what is the best way to find out what the problem it/to test the whole dvd -> handbrake chain (ide dvd drive)?
[15:39] <rgb-one> matt|home: How many times did you reboot?
[15:39] <matt|home> rgb-one : yeah i correctly did all the video driver things, like i said it was working fine for a while then just stopped
[15:39] <matt|home> a lot
[15:39] <Happy1> If anyone knows the answer to my question could they please PM me.
[15:39] <marianne_> ok guys, totally screwed up blu-ray playing on VLC. IT was working fine then I got it into my head to upgrade to vlc 2.2.0... now I'm getting errors when I start my blu-rays (yes, i have the no menu box checked)
[15:39] <marianne_> HELO!
[15:39] <marianne_> HELP!
[15:40] <rgb-one> matt|home: It may have seemed to be working fine because even though you replaced the drivers, the system may have still been using the one you removed.
[15:41] <matt|home> nah, because it wasn't working til i installed the correct drivers
[15:41] <rgb-one> matt|home: I see
[15:41] <matt|home> if worse comes to worse i can just uninstall/reinstall the gui right?
[15:42] <rgb-one> matt|home: indeed
[15:43] <matt|home> how do i do that
[15:43] <rgb-one> matt|home: how did you uninstall the default drivers? What apt command did you use?
[15:43] <matt|home> oh jeez i totally forgot, ive been typing commands all day and im half asleep. here one moment..
[15:44] <matt|home> http://www.beginninglinux.com/home/graphics-drivers/install-nvidia-custom-driver-on-ubuntu-12-04 <-- i followed those instructions
[15:44] <genii> Voyage: In that command you showed me, remove one of the / where you have two of them /media/kubuntu/0b3a1c13-1b28-4ae8-b8df-ef3adc71c37d//dev <-- note two // before dev here, make it one
[15:44] <Voyage> ya
[15:44] <Voyage> genii, it looks like all is well now. the errors just disappeard
[15:44] <Voyage> genii, i dont know what to do with the "libjson.c.so.2
[15:45] <genii> Voyage: That is probably not a critical error, for now I would ignore it
[15:45] <Voyage> genii, thats what started all
[15:45] <genii> Voyage: The main objective right now is to get your original system booting
[15:45] <Voyage> genii, i do not know if it will boot now
[15:46] <genii> Voyage: You did: apt-get purge skype ( or similar?)
[15:46] <Voyage> genii, I did nothing. i was having errors when i didnt bindmount. when i did. all errors just faded away.
[15:46] <Voyage> genii, skype was never there
[15:46] <Voyage> genii, skype was never there (according to apt)
[15:46] <genii> Voyage: You stated originally you installed skype from their site and then system became unbootable
[15:47] <Voyage> yes
[15:47] <Voyage> genii, but I used the .deb
[15:47] <matt|home> rgb-one : so , do i have to uninstall/reinstall ?
[15:47] <rgb-one> matt|home: reinstall
[15:47] <matt|home> kay, whats the commands/thing i should look for
[15:47] <genii> Voyage: Then it should still show if you do a command like apt-cache policy skype
[15:48] <genii> But with a source like /var something instead of a repository name
[15:48] <xyzwhatever> goddammnittt why is the extended virtualbox disk now called sda2 and I cannot extend the sda1 to it
[15:48] <Voyage> genii, skype:
[15:48] <Voyage> Installed: (none)
[15:48] <Voyage> Candidate: 4.3.0.37-0ubuntu0.12.04.1
[15:49] <matt|home> rgb-one : sudo apt-get install --reinstall ubuntu-desktop ?
[15:49] <Voyage> genii, Version table:
[15:49] <Voyage> 4.3.0.37-0ubuntu0.12.04.1 0 500 http://archive.canonical.com/ubuntu/ utopic/partner amd64 Packages 500 http://archive.canonical.com/ utopic/partner amd64 Packages
[15:49] <genii> Voyage: At this point I think you should do: apt-get -f install (no packagename after this, just as I wrote it) And see what it does
[15:49] <Voyage> genii, is skype installed?
[15:49] <Voyage> genii, did the -f thing
[15:49] <Guest23861> somebodz wanna challenge _
[15:49] <rgb-one> matt|home: not sure
[15:49] <rgb-one> !gnome
[15:49] <genii> Voyage: Did it install/deinstall things, do nothing, something unexpected, what?
[15:50] <Voyage> genii, when I didnt did bindmound. -f install was giving errors about libjson. when I did bindmount and then chrooted. there were no errors without me doing anything. STRANGe
[15:50] <rgb-one> !ubuntu-gnome
[15:50] <Voyage> genii, no. after bindmout, chroot, -f didnt do anything but didnt gave any errors either
[15:50] <genii> Voyage: I would AGAIN now run the apt-get -f install
[15:50] <Voyage> genii, did that many times. autormove too
[15:51] <Voyage> genii, is skype installed . according to policy?
[15:51] <genii> Voyage: Apparently it is not.
[15:51] <Voyage> genii, should I get rid of libjson
[15:51] <Guest23861> how to Format a Hdd thats encypted and onlz boots itself befor booting from cd or usb
[15:51] <genii> Voyage: Not right now. First command: sync
[15:52] <Guest23861> somebody a clue _
[15:52] <Voyage> genii, sync? whats that
[15:52] <rgb-one> Guest23861: change the boot order from the BIOS
[15:52] <Guest23861> i cant
[15:52] <genii> Voyage: sync makes sure there are no unwritten disk writes in the buffer
[15:52] <rgb-one> Guest23861: You cant access the BIOS?
[15:52] <Voyage> genii, ok
[15:52] <Voyage> genii, now what
[15:52] <Guest23861> thas right
[15:53] <genii> Voyage: the libjson errors as I said before aree not errors that would give the kernel panic
[15:53] <rgb-one> Guest23861: What system are you using?
[15:53] <Guest23861> on the hdd or here _
[15:53] <Voyage> genii, ok.
[15:53] <Voyage> genii, should I reboot now?
[15:53] <genii> Voyage: You should try now to exit the chroot, exit the livecd and re-try to boot the system
[15:53] * genii runs back to work
[15:54] <xyzwhatever> plz help me, how do I extend /sda1 to this unallocated space??? http://s1.postimg.org/ylkd3bgj3/Captu32342323re.png
[15:54] <Voyage> genii, thanks!
[15:54] <OerHeks> xyzwhatever, not. there is a partition in between.
[15:54] <xyzwhatever> goddamnit why
[15:55] <OerHeks> xyzwhatever, maybe you can move that partition to the end, can you drag it?
[15:55] <OerHeks> xyzwhatever, please don't curse
[15:55] <xyzwhatever> cant drag it
[15:55] <matt|home> okay, now im tired. is there a way for me to do some kind of completely clean reinstall of the entire X system in ubuntu without getting rid of my graphical drivers and stuff like that?
[15:55] <explosive> xyzwhatever: isn't thing to do would be to delete the swap partition, and extend the primary one, then make the swap again
[15:55] <explosive> *easiest thing
[15:55] <OerHeks> xyzwhatever, do this from a live-cd, not from a running system
[15:56] <xyzwhatever> i am in a live cd now
[15:56] <hkrrsx> matt|home: no, if you re-install your operating system, the graphics drivers go in the formatting process
[15:56] <matt|home> no no , i just wanna reinstall X
[15:56] <matt|home> not the whole OS
[15:56] <colby_> copy the dev folder.....isnt that where all the drivers go?
[15:56] <explosive> xyzwhatever: type sudo parted -l
[15:56] <mmazing> did my earlier message come through ... ? xyzwhatever: http://derekmolloy.ie/resize-a-virtualbox-disk/
[15:56] <hkrrsx> sudo apt-get install --reinstall <desktop_environment>
[15:57] <matt|home> http://www.ubuntugeek.com/ubuntu-tiphow-to-removeinstall-and-reconfigure-xorg-without-reinstalling-ubuntu.html <-- will this work?
[15:57] <hkrrsx> And you should still have your graphics drivers afterwards
[15:57] <Voyage> genii, it worked and I am back to old system. thanks. I learned something from you today
[15:58] <xyzwhatever> yeah mmazing but see my screenshot it looks different
[15:58] <Aro2220> Hi, I've followed this tutorial http://blog.bobbyallen.me/2014/01/11/setting-up-teamspeak-3-on-ubuntu-server-12-04-lts/ to install teamspeak on ubuntu 12.04 but it's running as root
[15:58] <Aro2220> how do i create a new user account and fix this service so it runs off that?
[15:58] <mmazing> i was disconnected for a bit
[15:59] <matt|home> omfg.. why..
[16:00] <hkrrsx> Aro2220: This line from your tutorial creates user "teamspeak3" ---- sudo adduser --disabled-login teamspeak3
[16:00] <colby_> matt i am a noob to linx in general but if all ur concerned about is drivers, wipe the machine and install the latest version of ubuntu
[16:02] <Aro2220> hkrrsx: for some reason when i looked at top it said it was running from user root
[16:02] <jeffreylevesque> can someone tell me what this upstart script does - https://bpaste.net/show/06e3b64d49b1
[16:02] <jeffreylevesque> it's located in /etc/init/redis-server.conf
[16:02] <hkrrsx> Aro2220: kill the current TeamSpeak process and relaunch it ...... hopefully, it'll launch from the "teamspeak3" user
[16:02] <jeffreylevesque> does it start the redis-server when the ubuntu machine starts up?
[16:03] <Aro2220> it still says it is running from root
[16:03] <genii> Voyage: Glad to assist
[16:04] <hkrrsx> Aro2220: Are you logged in as root right now?
[16:04] <Aro2220> hkrrsx no
[16:04] <jeffreylevesque> i don't think my upstart script is doing anything
[16:04] <Aro2220> hkrrsx: i was before and it also showed as root
[16:05] <explosive> jeffreylevesque: is it running? ps aux | grep redis-server
[16:05] <hkrrsx> Aro2220: Reboot your computer, your instructions say Teamspeak should start on boot
[16:05] <jeffreylevesque> explosive: all i get is the grep process `jeffrey 3139 0.0 0.0 11740 936 pts/9 S+ 12:05 0:00 grep --color=auto redis-server`
[16:05] <Aro2220> hkrrsx: it does in fact start from boot. I've rebooted 3 times already and it's always running as root.
[16:06] <explosive> jeffreylevesque: maybe it's not enabled?
[16:06] <explosive> update-rc.d rdis-server enable
[16:06] <Aro2220> hkrrsx: i also ran cat /etc/passwd and teamspeak3 user is there
[16:06] <hkrrsx> Aro2220: Then you probably missed a step or something went wrong
[16:07] <jeffreylevesque> i am able to manually run the commands `sudo [start|restart|stop] redis-server`
[16:07] <mostefi> hye everyone
[16:07] <Aro2220> hkrrsx: any idea what steps I could take to troubleshoot?
[16:07] <explosive> jeffreylevesque: ok, try to enable it with update-rc.d so it starts when the pc boots
[16:07] <hkrrsx> Aro2220: cross-reference your command history to the instructions and verify that you didn't miss anything
[16:07] <jeffreylevesque> explosive: when i do `update-rc.d rdis-server enable`, i get `update-rc.d: /etc/init.d/rdis-server: file does not exist`
[16:08] <explosive> jeffreylevesque: when you manually start it does it start?
[16:08] <jeffreylevesque> yes sir
[16:08] <hkrrsx> Aro2220: You might also go into /etc/password and set the shell for user 'teamspeak3' to /bin/false or /sbin/nologin
[16:08] <hkrrsx> Then reboot again and see if that helps
[16:09] <explosive> jeffreylevesque: try ls /etc/init.d | grep rdis
[16:09] <explosive> */etc/passwd
[16:09] <explosive> Aro2220: ^
[16:10] <jeffreylevesque> i get nothin with ` .. | grep redis`
[16:10] <jeffreylevesque> or rdis
[16:10] <hkrrsx> explosive: Thanks for the correction
[16:10] <explosive> np
[16:10] <hkrrsx> Aro2220: I meant /etc/passwd
[16:11] <jeffreylevesque> explosive: https://bpaste.net/show/07036ac68378
[16:13] <explosive> jeffreylevesque: how did you install redis-server?
[16:13] <jeffreylevesque> explosive: https://github.com/jeff1evesque/machine-learning/wiki/Redis#installation-on-ubuntu
[16:14] <Aro2220> hkrrsx: checked history...it's all in there
[16:15] <Aro2220> hkrrsx: bin/false or /sbin/nologin?
[16:15] <Aro2220> which one?
[16:15] <Aro2220> does it matter?
[16:16] <hkrrsx> Aro2220: check your /etc/passwd file and see whats in there
[16:16] <Aro2220> it was /bin/bash
[16:16] <hkrrsx> Aro2220: if you have /usr/sbin/nologin , go w/ that
[16:16] <Aro2220> it's mostly bin/bash
[16:16] <Aro2220> err bin/false
[16:16] <hkrrsx> Aro2220: Ok, then go with /bin/false
[16:16] <Aro2220> well actually....
[16:18] <explosive> jeffreylevesque: i dunno
[16:19] <explosive> jeffreylevesque: are there any logs you could check?
[16:22] <Knight80> Hello everyone!
[16:22] <Knight80> Does anybody know how to set up minidlna properly?
[16:24] <Knight80> Hello?
[16:24] <digdug__> Suddenly, my Gnome term lost its menubar, and it only appears when I hover the title bar
[16:25] <digdug__> View | Show Menubar is checked
[16:25] <digdug__> i've disabled the global menubar
[16:26] <jeffreylevesque> explosive: i have redis `Version: 2:3.0.0-rwky1~trusty`, i think thats old
[16:26] <jeffreylevesque> https://github.com/jeff1evesque/machine-learning/issues/1785#issuecomment-91607704
[16:26] <OerHeks> Knight80, maybe this page is any help http://www.htpcbeginner.com/install-minidlna-on-ubuntu-ultimate-guide/ our page needs cleanup https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MiniDLNA
[16:26] <jeffreylevesque> never mind, i have 3.0
[16:27] <ioria> jeffreylevesque, it's not available in ubuntu repos ?
[16:27] <pbx> can microsoft lync be made to run under wine?
[16:27] <jeffreylevesque> it is via ppa
[16:27] <hkrrsx> digdug__: close gnome-terminal and re-open it?
[16:27] * pbx googles the question like he should have before asking
[16:27] <OerHeks> pbx, check #winehq and their database
[16:27] <Knight80> OerHeks Thank you very much
[16:27] <digdug__> nope, that didn't fix it hkrrsx
[16:28] <digdug__> i think it is after my last apt-get update, though i'm not sure how to check the log
[16:28] <digdug__> it used to be below the titlebar, now it's inside the titlebar, but hides itself
[16:28] <hkrrsx> digdug__: is there an auto-hide option in there somewhere?
[16:28] <pbx> OerHeks, yeah, not looking good - https://appdb.winehq.org/objectManager.php?sClass=application&iId=14390
[16:28] <digdug__> not that i can see
[16:29] <hkrrsx> digdug__: what happens if you de-select Show Menubar and try again?
[16:29] <ioria> !info redis-server
[16:30] <digdug__> that makes it not appear when i hover it
[16:30] <digdug__> (i also had to disable it in profile preferences, since there's a "show menubar for new terminals" setting
[16:30] <digdug__> now i'm not even sure how to get it back on hover actually haha
[16:30] <digdug__> damn it
[16:30] <hkrrsx> digdug__: Language.
[16:31] <digdug__> sorry
[16:31] <digdug__> ok, there's a show menubar in the right-click menu
[16:31] <hkrrsx> There you go
[16:31] <digdug__> i guess they just changed it and hope it's ok
[16:31] <digdug__> and i'll have to deal with it
[16:32] <hkrrsx> digdug__: If it's something you get frustrated with, you could always try another terminal emulator
[16:32] <nrml1> so I'm having trouble with my apt-mirror cron job.. it does not appear to be running
[16:33] <Aro2220> nope still doesn't work =p
[16:33] <nrml1> it looks like this: 0 2 * * * apt-mirror /usr/bin/apt-mirror > /var/spool/apt-mirror/var/cron.log and lives in /etc/cron.daily
[16:33] <pbx> is the `apt` command supposed to eventually replace apt-get or just be a subset with a nicer ui? wondering about things like autoclean
[16:33] <Aro2220> does anyone have any resources i could read to understand how /etc/init.d works or update-rc.d?
[16:33] <hkrrsx> Aro2220: I found this Teamspeak3 installation tutorial that's got your name written on it ....... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ClfhQfv1pZ8
[16:34] <hkrrsx> Yes, the video was made using Linux Mint but the instructions are for Ubuntu as well
[16:34] <Aro2220> okay i run through a command line but i'll check it out
[16:34] <sugoiryu> hello. i rebooted my laptop and now the keyboard wont work unless i modify /etc/default/grub to have GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT="quiet splash i8042.nopnp=1 i8042.dumbkbd=1" why do i need this now?
[16:34] <hkrrsx> And minimal need to use the terminal :)
[16:34] <Aro2220> i only have a terminal it's a vps ;-)
[16:35] <Aro2220> i think this tutorial is for teamspeak3 client not the server though
[16:36] <hkrrsx> It is
[16:36] <hkrrsx> I didn't realize you are on a VPS
[16:36] <Aro2220> i'm trying to run a ts server on a vps
[16:36] <Aro2220> i need to understand how linux determines which user to run things as in /etc/init.d
[16:36] <hkrrsx> Ok, this is for you ..... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xECUS8dEmLQ
[16:37] <hkrrsx> Sorry, that video is for CentOS
[16:38] <labeeb32> I installed ubuntu alongside windows, but now my laptop directly boots into windows. What can I do?
[16:38] <Aro2220> labeeb32 you need to fix your bootloader somehow
[16:38] <Aro2220> or install one that can handle both operating systems so you have a cohice
[16:38] <Aro2220> choice*
[16:40] <labeeb32> should default GRUB handle this?
[16:40] <jack_> aha
[16:40] <Aro2220> GRUB should be able to do it. Don't know any details since I haven't done this in a very long time. Sorry.
[16:40] <Aro2220> You should look for tutorials about that though.
[16:41] <jack_> hey guys
[16:41] <TomAstro> hi folks does xorg-edgers have an IRC channel?
[16:42] <hackal> Hello, what permission should I set to files on my web server which should not be accessible? Now they are at 777
[16:42] <smygIG> Hallo all :) Is there anyone that is an expert on WOL?
[16:43] <jack_> 700?
[16:43] <jack_> i don't know,haha
[16:43] <jack_> we all are not talking in the same subject
[16:44] <jack_> so,it's the first time i use xchat
[16:45] <jack_> seems not very useful....at least till then it seems to be like this
[16:45] <genii> hackal: 650
[16:45] <smygIG> WOL expert Wanted
[16:46] <OerHeks> smygIG, WOL is pretty simple >> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WakeOnLan
[16:46] <jack_> permission 650?
[16:46] <genii> jack_: Sorry, no, 1 minute
[16:46] <jeffreylevesque> i got redis working on autostart via Ubuntus upstart by commenting out the only line in `/etc/init/redis-server.override`. Specifically, `#manual`
[16:46] <jeffreylevesque> is this ok?
[16:47] <genii> jack_: 644 rather
[16:47] <jack_> genii:it's not proposed by me
didi
[16:48] <jack_> did
[16:48] <jack_> i know little about linux
[16:49] <genii> jack_: And 755 for those ones you have right now which are 777 will prevent people from writing over your web pages
[16:50] <jack_> so the group and other users only have read and write permission with it set to 755?
[16:50] <smygIG> OerHeks Does my router hawe to suport WOL?
[16:51] <jack_> write and execute
[16:51] <genii> jack_: They will have only read and execute and not write
[16:51] <jack_> yeah,i got it
[16:51] <ioria> jack : the first number refer to you, the 2°to group, the 3° to others. 4=read, 2=write, 1=execute
[16:52] <jack_> yeah, i got it ,thx,guys
[16:52] <ioria> jack : 4+2+1= 7 you got all rights
[16:53] <jack_> ioria:thx
[16:54] <VanDerGroot> Hey guys.
[16:54] <jack_> i'm gonna learn android develop, windows or linux,which one do you prefer?
[16:54] <jack_> hey
[16:55] <jack_> VanderGroot:welcome,hahahahahaha
[16:55] <VanDerGroot> Is there a sensible way to forward tcp connections to another computer if they have a certain HTTP header?
[16:55] <VanDerGroot> jack_: What's funny?
[16:56] <genii> jack_: Learning linux will help you a lot with learning android, and vice-versa
[16:56] <smygIG> VanDerGroot du är svensk va?
[16:56] <genii> !se
[16:56] <VanDerGroot> smygIG: Yes, but I don't have a reason to limit myself to swedish support. :)
[16:56] <jack_> VanDerGroot:i just wanted to express my welcome,....
[16:57] <jack_> genii: ok ,thanks
[16:57] <VanDerGroot> jack_: The laughing threw me off. Thanks, I guess. :)
[16:57] <area51pilot> is there a way to purge all settings from Bluetooth and go back to install defaults?
[16:58] <ioria> VanDerGroot, maybe Netcat... i haven't done that
[16:59] <VanDerGroot> Maybe it helps if I tell you what I want to accomplish: I've got two servers at home and I want them to serve different websites, both on 80.
[16:59] <smygIG> VanDerGroot Är der ok om jag skriver på sv till dig allafall? har lixom ig+ på engelska ;) och min fråga är angående WOL. Kan du påstå att du är bra på WOL?
[17:00] <VanDerGroot> smygIG: Keep the non english in PMs
[17:01] <ioria> smygIG, i understood only 'pasta' :-)
[17:04] <TurtleDan> I wanted to change the background picture but when I load desktop settings it locks up on me.
[17:05] <area51pilot> is there a way to purge all settings from Bluetooth and go back to install defaults?
[17:07] <kemmler> Can someone help me identify what file is trying to be accessed here when I use apt-get? http://pastebin.com/aPWeWYaC
[17:08] <kemmler> Packages.gz exists in the directory being accessed and I receive this error W: Failed to fetch http://10.1.1.2:3142/repo/binary/Packages.gz 403 Forbidden
[17:13] <ioria> kemmler, why are you root ?
[17:14] <kemmler> ioria: because i'm ssh'd into a machine and can do what i want
[17:16] <kemmler> and last time I checked the files i'm working with are owned by root
[17:17] <mjayk> thats just bad practice xD
[17:18] <kemmler> Not very relevant though
[17:20] <ioria> kemmler, as you know 403 means lack of permissions ....
[17:21] <kemmler> ioria: permissions are 644. i can wget the file from the machine having problems
[17:21] <kemmler> apt-get is the only thing returning an error
[17:21] <ioria> kemmler, i see
[17:22] <zykotick9> kemmler: i assume the :3142 means you're using apt-cacher(-ng) is that correct? is it setup to allow the machine your trying from? best of luck. (PS. i won't visit pastebin.com so haven't seen your paste)
[17:23] <ioria> zykotick9, Ign http://10.1.1.2 binary/ Packages Err http://10.1.1.2 binary/ Packages 403 Forbidden
[17:25] <ioria> kemmler, anything in /var/lib/apt/lists/partial/ ?
[17:27] <kemmler> ioria: i tried to clear it
[17:27] <kemmler> didnt help
[17:29] <ioria> kemmler, change http with ftp (just a guess)
[17:30] <andybrine> good evening
[17:30] <c3sl> Hello, I was just wondering if there is some software similar to Suse Studio, but open source. Do you guys know?
[17:31] <hkrrsx> andybrine: welcome
[17:31] <hkrrsx> c3sl: http://alternativeto.net/software/suse-studio/
[17:31] <andybrine> I wonder if anyone can help me. Im running gnome-shell and have cleared cache and everything and it still seems to be going incredibly slow.
[17:32] <andybrine> Is there anyway to diagnose where I can find where all the memory has gone?
[17:32] <kemmler> ioria: that just causes it to hang at [logging in]. pretty sure the server just drops the packets
[17:33] <andybrine> I have tried many things but im not able to speed it up.
[17:33] <hkrrsx> andybrine: Try running " top " from the command line
[17:33] <hkrrsx> or if you have it installed, the colorful "htop"
[17:34] <c3sl> thanks hkrrsx
[17:34] <andybrine> ok, thanks. I have used system monitor
[17:34] <hkrrsx> There you go
[17:35] <hkrrsx> If you're looking for mammoth performance gains, I'd say get a solid state drive
[17:35] <hkrrsx> HUUUUGE boost in performance
[17:35] <andybrine> that will give me the running processes but it doesnt tell me why my computer is soo slow
[17:35] <andybrine> I have a solid state drive
[17:36] <hkrrsx> Oh ... how about running fstrim ?
[17:36] <hkrrsx> sudo fstrim -v /
[17:37] <andybrine> let me give that a shot
[17:37] <andybrine> thanks
[17:37] <OerHeks> andybrine, maybe htop gives you more info.
[17:38] <andybrine> it says that its just trimmed 125gb :S
[17:38] <andybrine> is that right?
[17:38] <hkrrsx> Marvelous
[17:38] <andybrine> thats a lot though right?
[17:38] <OerHeks> andybrine, that is fast, usually it takes several minuts
[17:38] <andybrine> yea, it was quick
[17:38] <OerHeks> sounds undefragmented
[17:39] <hkrrsx> What's slow for you? Launching applications, going to web pages, moving the mouse around, etc ?
[17:39] <andybrine> I did clean up my computer last week to speed it up but did not make a huge difference
[17:39] <andybrine> moving windows is slow, running multiple apps
[17:39] <andybrine> its just slow in general
[17:39] <hkrrsx> Pastebin the output of " free -m " , please
[17:40] <Bohemus> having some trouble connecting to an openvpn server using the network manager plugin. I can connect using the ovpn profile through command line just fine.
[17:40] <hkrrsx> I wonder if you're in swap
[17:40] <Eightynine> Hi. I'm using Ubuntu LTS with XFCE(replaced Gnome and Unity by removing them and installing xubuntu-desktop package) but I didn't like it. Can I turn my system to Ubuntu MATE?
[17:40] <andybrine> here is the pastebin: http://pastebin.com/hEzwJMAe
[17:40] <hkrrsx> Thanks
[17:41] <hkrrsx> Well, available RAM is not the problem ...
[17:41] <hkrrsx> You're not using any swap at all (good)
[17:41] <andybrine> thanks for your help. That last command fstrim has really made a difference
[17:41] <hkrrsx> Excellent
[17:41] <andybrine> I have swap setup though
[17:42] <hkrrsx> You do, indeed
[17:42] <andybrine> ok cool
[17:42] <andybrine> lol, I thought it wasnt for a second
[17:42] <hkrrsx> How many programs do you have open at once when this problem occurs ?
[17:42] <andybrine> sometimes its only google chrome
[17:43] <hkrrsx> Google Chrome can be a beast but it won't chew up 8GB of RAM
[17:43] <andybrine> I may have 1 other program working alongside chrome but not a lot of the time
[17:43] <Patero-ng> I have a problema, I installed ubuntu 14 on a usb drive but the thing loaded fine ok but after like 10 minutes the screen started to look blocky with some greens blocks very weird this doesn't happen on the same windows 7 pc, it loaded from the usb so help someone???????
[17:44] <andybrine> at the moment I have chrome, terminal and quassal running and its using almost 4gb or ram
[17:44] <Eightynine> I was late at your channel but what DE does he use?
[17:44] <andybrine> I though that was really extreme
[17:44] <hkrrsx> How many tabs do you have open in Chrome?
[17:44] <hkrrsx> And are any of them using Flash, like YouTube.com or something ?
[17:44] <OerHeks> Eightynine, mate-desktop in 14.04 , you will need a ppa for that > http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2014/08/install-mate-desktop-ubuntu-14-04-lts
[17:45] <OerHeks> Eightynine, as of 14.10 mate-desktop is back in the repos
[17:45] <andybrine> I usually have youtube running at times and can have many tabes open
[17:45] <mariano_> h0olis
[17:45] <hkrrsx> andybrine: close Chrome and check your resources again
[17:45] <andybrine> with free -m?
[17:46] <Eightynine> Thanks, I saw this, but wanted to know whether this safe or not.
[17:46] <hkrrsx> Please
[17:46] <delinquentme> so I'm staring at a EC2 instance ....
[17:46] <OerHeks> Eightynine, use of a PPA is at your own risc.
[17:46] <delinquentme> and at current the / is almost full
[17:46] <delinquentme> but there is a /mnt/ which has quite a bit of space left there...
[17:46] <delinquentme> is that a *BAD* directory to use as working space on an ec2 instance?
[17:46] <rgb-one> Patero-ng: I have had this happen as well when I was using alphaOS Linux
[17:47] <rgb-one> Is is on and off.
[17:47] <Eightynine> MATE has a better file manager than XFCE, right? Thunar doesn't even have search, it uses Catfish.
[17:47] <OerHeks> !md5sum | Patero-ng
[17:47] <andybrine> here is the pastebin: apC9ZNjz
[17:47] <andybrine> http://pastebin.com/apC9ZNjz
[17:48] <andybrine> still 2gb of ram being used with online quassal and terminal open
[17:48] <hkrrsx> So a side-by-side comparison shows that Chrome was burning through 2GB of RAM
[17:48] <Bohemus> is there an openvpn gui i can use instead of the plugin for network manager?
[17:48] <andybrine> yea, thats a fair bit
[17:49] <hkrrsx> Perhaps browser tab management would be a good thing going forward
[17:49] <rgb-one> andybrine: What version of Gnome are you using?
[17:49] <andybrine> hkrrsx, do you think that I should still be using 2.5gb of RAM with what I have open now though?
[17:49] <ioria> Bohemus, try... https://community.openvpn.net/openvpn/wiki/OpenVPN-GUI
[17:49] <Eightynine> openSUSE enables TRIM if user installing this distro on SSD. Can anyone please tell me if Ubuntu does this or not?
[17:49] <andybrine> rgb-one Im using 3.14
[17:49] <hkrrsx> andybrine: I don't believe Unity is a light-weight desktop environment
[17:49] <OerHeks> !trim
[17:50] <hkrrsx> Not the heaviest , but not light either
[17:50] <teward> Eightynine: it's activated by default in 14.04 and later
[17:50] <Eightynine> Thanks for the answer.
[17:50] <teward> per the Ubottu factoid just now that OerHeks called
[17:50] <ioria> Bohemus, sorry ... foe win32
[17:50] <toshok_> hey all, q: is there any guide to forking a system package into a ppa along with local changes?
[17:51] <hkrrsx> andybrine: Yeah, 2GB between the operating system, desktop environment, various services started at boot and a couple of programs .... that sounds ok
[17:51] <andybrine> hkrrsx Im not a fan of unity. I have installed Mate and some of the other dsktop environments which could conribute to it slowint down as well
[17:51] <andybrine> cool, thanks
[17:51] <Bohemus> ioria just noticed that!
[17:51] <Eightynine> If I remove XFCE(I mean xubuntu-desktop after MATE installation my system will be stable still?
[17:51] <hkrrsx> andybrine: You're only running 1 desktop environment at a time, so MATE or XFCE wouldn't contribute to this problem
[17:51] <andybrine> just out of interest, what did that trim command do?
[17:51] <hkrrsx> I'd ask you to switch over to one of the other DE's and see if your performance improves any more
[17:52] <hkrrsx> fstrim - discard unused blocks on a mounted filesystem
[17:52] <hkrrsx> http://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/precise/en/man8/fstrim.8.html
[17:52] <andybrine> hkrrsx it was still slow in the other environments as well
[17:52] <hkrrsx> It was slow then, prior to us running fstrim
[17:52] <andybrine> I think that trim may have done the trick
[17:52] <hkrrsx> Give it another shot now
[17:52] <andybrine> yea
[17:53] <ioria> Bohemus, it' a bit complicated but this should work http://gopenvpn.sourceforge.net/
[17:54] <Smithgift> My ubuntu laptop is connected via ethernet to a router, as there are no accessable wifi networks in my area, It will constantly disconnect saying it has no wireless connection (true) and reconnect immediately saying it has a wired connection (also true.) How do I get it to stop doing this?
[17:55] <OerHeks> toshok_, sure, if you can get hands on the sourcecode, and write something about the changes https://help.launchpad.net/Packaging/PPA
[17:55] <OerHeks> Smithgift, easy, disable wireless in your networkmanager
[17:56] <Bohemus> ioria, that might work!
[17:57] <Bohemus> wish i could get it to work over network manager but i can never connect for some reason
[17:58] <Smithgift> OerHeks: Both the wireless button and the network manager insist that wireless is disabled. It's still doing it.
[17:59] <OerHeks> Smithgift, that is curious.
[17:59] <Smithgift> OerHeks: Can I just get network manager to ignore the wireless completely? I rarely use it.
[17:59] <hkrrsx> Smithgift: ifdown wlan0 from the command line
[18:00] <OerHeks> Smithgift, are you sure it is saying " no wireless" ? so it cannot be a flaky networkconnector?
[18:00] <digdug__> oh man, that thing with the menubar happened to everything, not just the terminal
[18:00] <digdug__> vlc is doing it too now
[18:01] <Smithgift> hkrrsx: ifdown says that wlan0 is not configured. I'll try a different Ethernet cable.
[18:01] <Smithgift> brb, I have to run from one computer to another, as this isn't the laptop in question.
[18:03] <ki7rw> what's going on with these web browsers? neither chome nor firefox will stream iheartradio anymore
[18:05] <hkrrsx> ki7rw: Works fine for me. Do you have Flash enabled in your browser(s)?
[18:05] <Smithgift> OerHeks: Switched to an entirely different cable in a different port in the router, it's still doing it.
[18:06] <ki7rw> from my understanding, chrome doesn't use flash - i do have flash enabled on firefox
[18:06] <hkrrsx> ki7rw: Are you getting an error of any kind ?
[18:06] <ki7rw> nope. just doesn't play
[18:07] <hkrrsx> I tested in both Chrome and Firefox and they both played without intervention
[18:08] <hkrrsx> Are you running an ad-blocker ?
[18:08] <triath> I have a wierd error, whenever I boot or reboot my computer the the monitor gets "No input signal detected" right after the message "Loading operating system", I then have to push the physical reset button on my PC, it then restarts again normally and it boots. How would I go about finding the cause of this?
[18:08] <hkrrsx> Perhaps trying in Incognito mode ?
[18:08] <Patero-ng> rgb-one how did you solve it?
[18:09] <rgb-one> Patero-ng: I don't think I tried.
[18:09] <Patero-ng> cause is running live rbanffy
[18:09] <rgb-one> Patero-ng: It didn't happen all the time
[18:09] <Patero-ng> rgb-one hah
[18:10] <Patero-ng> rgb-one I don't it to happen at all
[18:10] <Patero-ng> rgb-one if is live it should be as stable as the installed ver
[18:10] <rgb-one> Patero-ng: Expectations.
[18:10] <rbanffy> Patero-ng, ?
[18:11] <rgb-one> Patero-ng: it is what it is.
[18:11] <Patero-ng> rgb-one so no?
[18:11] <Eightynine> I can't find a good MATE review and don't remember one thing. Can anyone tell me if MATE's file manager has search option?
[18:12] <rgb-one> Patero-ng: I don't know how to fix it
[18:12] <rgb-one> Patero-ng: It could be because you are using a USB drive
[18:12] <Patero-ng> rgb-one serious?
[18:12] <ki7rw> this sucks - don't know what changed but there are other sites that aren't working properly
[18:13] <hkrrsx> ki7rw: did you try my last couple of suggestions ?
[18:14] <rgb-one> Patero-ng: The Alpha OS system was installed on the USB I had and I would use it on various computers
[18:14] <szogoon> howdy :)
[18:14] <rgb-one> Patero-ng: Thes screen would go green with some monitors
[18:15] <rgb-one> Patero-ng: and occasionally with my laptop
[18:15] <rgb-one> Patero-ng: You are going to install the Ubuntu?
[18:16] <ki7rw> yeah, i'm running ghostery - i'll try disabling it but everything was working fine a couple of days ago - i know that there was a recent update for firefox - not sure of the last chrome update
[18:17] <szogoon> got problem :( got software that was written for DOS, and then moved to Linux (Mandriva). It uses codepage CP852, and i've got proper font but can't get PL characters
[18:17] <massiveblue> Hello, i have a boot issue with ubuntu gnome vivid, grub2. Freshly installed sys, last installed package: fglrx-driver I also have a BootInfo: http://paste.ubuntu.com/10793356/ I only see the grey rectangle after BIOS and nothing happens. Can anybody help me?
[18:18] <EriC^^> !ubuntu+1 | massiveblue
[18:19] <Eightynine> What about my question?
[18:20] <massiveblue> EriC^^: ty
[18:21] <ki7rw> hkrrsx, it was ghostery causing the problem
[18:21] <Smithgift> OK, I tried setting /etc/network/interfaces to manually configure wireless, and therefore snatch it out of NetworkManager's confused clutches. It seems to have been overwritten on restart. Any ideas?
[18:21] <hkrrsx> ki7rw: Winner
[18:22] <ki7rw> gah! one tries to do whatever to protect privacy only to cause "issues"
[18:22] <ki7rw> time to go
[18:23] <ioria> Smithgift, i think you have to remove networkmanager if you wanna configure manually
[18:23] <ioria> Smithgift, but for wireless it's a pain
[18:24] <Smithgift> ioria: I don't really care about wireless, because I haven't found a hotspot that works/I have access to here.
[18:24] <szogoon> is there any console apps master here? :P
[18:25] <Smithgift> ioria: I just want to be able to connect without regularly briefly disconnecting due to NetworkManager.
[18:25] <TheBlindGhoulie3> need help dual booting a mac
[18:27] <hkrrsx> Smithgift: In NetworkManager, if you click on the Wireless tab, is there a "Connect Automatically" option at the top?
[18:29] <Smithgift> hkrrsx: Where should I be looking? There's a lot of network screens.
[18:30] <zykotick9> szogoon: perhaps, you should ask a more specific question and see...
[18:30] <hkrrsx> The up and down arrow icon by the time clock, right click on it and select Edit Connections
[18:30] <hkrrsx> That's the NetworkManager window I'm referring to
[18:31] <hkrrsx> Then Wireless tab, are there any network connections listed in there? If so, click on the top one and click Edit
[18:33] <nonms> hi
[18:33] <szogoon> LANG in /etc/default/locale sets console character map? or is there other way to change it?
[18:34] <Smithgift> hkrrsx: The window with the add/edit/delete buttons on the side? I deleted all of the networks listed there (none of them are near/work.) No dice.
[18:34] <hkrrsx> Thanks for playing ... :(
[18:36] <TheBlindGhoulie3> anyone have any experience with rEFInd on mac?
[18:36] <hkrrsx> Smithgift: The only other thing that I can think of is to comment out the wlan0 stuff from /etc/network/interfaces
[18:36] <mpanetta> Morning/Afternoon :)
[18:37] <hkrrsx> That way, it shouldn't configure the wireless card's networking stuff on boot, leaving you with only " lo " and " eth0 "
[18:37] <mpanetta> I have a question that google is failing me on... How do I have 2 separate DHCP configured interfaces (eth0, eth1) and only set the resolv.conf entries for eth0?
[18:38] <mpanetta> eth1 keeps overwriting resolv.conf when it comes up, with info that is not valid :(
[18:38] <shortstraw8> I created a postgres DB and user: [createuser username -P -S -R -D] and [createdb DBname] then added the user but now I can't seem to find it. I have been looking on postgressql.org trying to find what I did wrong. Anyone here have experience with postgres or how to find my DB?
[18:38] <Smithgift> hkrrsx: Actually, prior to working on this today, /etc/network/interfaces had nothing but the loopback interface. Nothing else, not even comments.
[18:38] <Smithgift> hkrrsx: IIRC somehow it was corrupted in installation and I made it manually.
[18:38] <TheBlindGhoulie3> If I want to Dual Boot my Apple with Ubuntu I have to install a program called rEFInd. It allows you to boot Ubuntu, but Im getting something wrong apparently
[18:40] <ioria> Smithgift, because you are using Network Manager... try ifconfig command
[18:43] <hkrrsx> Smithgift: Perhaps re-install NetworkManager ?
[18:43] <TheBlindGhoulie3> anyone have any experience with rEFInd on mac?
[18:43] <TheBlindGhoulie3> If I want to Dual Boot my Apple with Ubuntu I have to install a program called rEFInd. It allows you to boot Ubuntu, but Im getting something wrong apparently
[18:43] <Smithgift> hkrrsx: Going to try that next, because I think I might have incidentally broken it.
[18:43] <hkrrsx> sudo apt-get install --reinstall network-manager
[18:44] <hkrrsx> May the force be with you :)
[18:44] <mjayk> TheBlindGhoulie3: what is going wrong
[18:45] <TheBlindGhoulie3> I install rEFInd and it does nothing lol.
[18:45] <wfio> Is anyone running a Dell XPS13 or Dell M3800 (2015 models) with Ubuntu? What are your thoughts on performance on either side? I do a lot of stuff with R/RStudio (data analysis, visualization/plotting, graphing) can these machines (at 8gb default) handle that?
[18:45] <TheBlindGhoulie3> Its supposed to show you an alternate boot screen-it does not
[18:45] <TheBlindGhoulie3> but says its installed correctly
[18:45] <hkrrsx> brb
[18:46] <mjayk> TheBlindGhoulie3: you done > 3 reboots there is a bug in it
[18:46] <mpanetta> Anyone that can help me with my networking issue?
[18:46] <TheBlindGhoulie3> lol great
[18:46] <TheBlindGhoulie3> any starters how to fix tha
[18:46] <mjayk> yea do > reboots
[18:47] <teward> mpanetta: theoretically you can't - resolv.conf is used for the entire system, and if networkmanager controls your DHCP for both interfaces, then DNS servers are maintained by NetworkManager and not resolv.conf
[18:47] <mpanetta> teward: Ahh hmm
[18:48] <teward> mpanetta: in theory you can set dns-nameserver for the one interface via /etc/network/interfaces entries, but I haven't tested if that messes with resolv.conf effectively on a desktop
[18:48] <area51pilot> is there a way to purge all settings from Bluetooth and go back to install defaults?
[18:48] <mpanetta> teward: Well, this is a cloud server so if I break it I can just blow it away and try again ;)
[18:48] <mpanetta> Let me see what that does
[18:48] <teward> mpanetta: that's probably better asked in #ubuntu-server then
[18:49] <mpanetta> Oh there is a separate channel? Thanks, I did not know :)
[18:51] <marianne_> hi, why does my firefox window come up in a different language and the switch to english once i load a page I'm on firefox 37.0.1 and ubuntu14.04. I've never had something like this happen before, any idea why?
[18:53] <Olxd> Hello all people any hackers
[18:54] <hkrrsx> back
[18:54] <ioria> marianne_ probably it reads you local
[18:55] <marianne_> ioria: US based though...
[18:56] <marianne_> ioria: Thinking of uninstall and reinstall through software center
[18:56] <ioria> marianne_ did you install Ubuntu in en_US ?
[18:57] <Smithgift> hkrrsx: Reinstall didn't help, so I gave in and configured it manually. Seems to be working so far (...I hope.)
[18:57] <hkrrsx> Smithgift: Best of luck :)
[18:57] <Krigsforbryter> Hello, i run Ubuntu 14.10 and have now changed motherboard the the server. After change its cant find the NIC. How can fix it?
[18:58] <marianne_> ioria: yes, I did install in english, only language i know... all other apps seem fine
[18:58] <TheBlindGhoulie3> ok bacl-sry at work and trying to figure this out
[18:58] <TheBlindGhoulie3> back*
[18:59] <ioria> marianne_ in which language does FF start ?
[18:59] <Smithgift> It's working! Through a restart! I'm declaring victory while it still works and leaving things the way they are.
[18:59] <marianne_> ioria: looks like spanish or maybe portugese
[19:00] <ioria> marianne_ you are right ... :-) me too
[19:00] <OerHeks> Krigsforbryter, see this page howto clean old ethernetdevices instances ( for a vm, but works for normal install too ) http://chris.dziemborowicz.com/blog/2010/07/25/fix-missing-eth0-when-cloning-ubuntu-vmware-virtual-machines/ delete the file and reboot
[19:01] <marianne_> ioria: I'm going to un/re-install right now and see if it fixes it
[19:01] <ioria> marianne_ i use chrome ...usually
[19:01] <Krigsforbryter> OerHeks: Tnx, i will check it out :)
[19:01] <marianne_> ioria: me too, but I can't get HBOGo or StarzPlay to work in Chrome
[19:03] <ioria> marianne_ i remember some recent updates
[19:06] <xTessa> My sister sent these creamy pictures of us to share <3 http://bit.do/cam_screenies
[19:06] <ioria> marianne_ http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2272519
[19:09] <marianne_> ioria: totally NOT a happy camper about this
[19:10] <Krigsforbryter> OerHeks: That fix my problems, tnx again :D
[19:10] <OerHeks> Krigsforbryter, have fun !
[19:10] <ioria> marianne_ yep
[19:14] <marianne_> ioria: ok next question will be - anyone out there know how to get HBOGo to work in chrome?
[19:15] <i0str3am> Hi everybody
[19:16] <i0str3am> what does HBOGo use - flash? HTML5?
[19:16] <bekks> What is "HBOGo"?
[19:16] <genii> bekks: Home Box Office channel's streaming service
[19:17] <zerowaitstate> i0str3am: whatever is least convenient i am sure
[19:17] <bekks> genii: ah, thx
[19:19] <qwiey> http://pastebin.com/8ZRKkGTy
[19:19] <foo-script> Evening :)
[19:19] <foo-script> Guys, I have a strange output from apt-get. Could someone take a look at this? http://pastie.org/10085233
[19:19] <zerowaitstate> i0str3am: apparently it uses flash
[19:23] <zerowaitstate> foo-script: it's possible that libc6-dev:armhf conflicts with another package
[19:25] <marianne_> ioria: ok got HBOGo to work in Firefox, 1 down 1 to go
[19:26] <gayle_> Trying to install Dell's software for their v313 multi-function inkjet printer on Ubuntu 14.04 and it is not working. (Doing this for a friend.) *However*: I have a 12.04.5 system here that I can get it working on. See: http://superuser.com/questions/738060/installing-dell-v313-printer-scanner-on-ubuntu-12-04
[19:26] <gayle_> Anyone know how to get it to work on 14.04.2 ?
[19:27] <marianne_> gayle_: did you install the HP toolbox through software center?
[19:27] <marianne_> ioria: ok StarzPlay is working again, lets see how long before it errors out
[19:29] <gayle_> marianne_: No, will try that.
[19:30] <gayle_> marianne_: But this is a Lexmark printer re-branded by Dell. Do you still think the HP toolbox will do something for me?
[19:31] <marianne_> gayle_: damn, sorry... probably not...
[19:31] <gayle_> marianne_: Here is where I got the software: http://www.dell.com/support/home/us/en/04/Drivers/DriversDetails?driverId=R293768
[19:32] <area51pilot> gayle_ did you try installing as a Lexmark S305
[19:32] <gayle_> marianne_: And as you see from the other URL I sent earlier, had to re-arrange the control file and put it back together.
[19:33] <gayle_> marianne_: No, but will try that..
[19:34] <area51pilot> gayle_, try this: http://www.dell.com/support/home/us/en/19/Drivers/DriversDetails?driverId=R293768&dgc=BA&cid=285111&lid=5447194&acd=123092093822786725
[19:37] <area51pilot> gayle_, the link I posted has the deb install script for the v313
[19:42] <millerti> What package do I need to install to get "/usr/sbin/ipmi-dcmi"?
[19:42] <bekks> !search /usr/sbin/ipmi-dcmi
[19:45] <bazhang> freeipmi-tools, libfreeipmi-dev millerti
[19:45] <SchrodingersScat> millerti: freeipmi-tools: /usr/sbin/ipmi-dcmi
[19:45] <millerti> bazhang: Thanks!
[19:46] <millerti> SchrodingersScat: You too.
[19:46] <bazhang> welcome
[19:46] <SchrodingersScat> it takes a village
[19:46] <lawltoad> hi guys, i'm trying to install 14.10 on my macbook pro 9,1. but when I try to start the live cd it comes up as a blank screen
[19:49] <millerti> So when I run "/usr/sbin/ipmi-dcmi --get-system-power-statistics", how can I get it to sample for a longer period?
[19:59] <dougsko> lawltoad: have you followed the directions here, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/How%20to%20install%20Ubuntu%20on%20MacBook%20using%20live%20CD ?
[20:00] <dougsko> lawltoad: there are some special steps you need to take to boot a live cd on a macbook
[20:01] <lawltoad> so for now (that link says optional) i'm skipping refit
[20:01] <lawltoad> and is it different if I'm using usb
[20:02] <lawltoad> the USB drive shows up as windows and efi boot
[20:03] <allen_> salut
[20:03] <dougsko> lawltoad: i dont think so but im not 100% as ive never done this personally
[20:04] <lawltoad> yea so from efi boot -> grub menu -> live cd option
[20:05] <lawltoad> puts me into a blank screen
[20:05] <allen_> hello i am new
[20:05] <k1l_> allen_: no problem. if you have an issue with ubuntu just ask
[20:05] <allen_> right
[20:06] <allen_> thank
[20:06] <allen_> thank kil
[20:08] <Nokaji> which one do I tweak for the message font? (ie what i'm typing) it is way too small
[20:08] <viKKKtor> hello, i'm using kubuntu vivid daily and everytime i open dolphin as root i have to fresh install cause plasma stops working forever :( anyone is experimenting this?
[20:08] <k1l_> viKKKtor: dont crosspost alpha/beta issues into here, thanks
[20:10] <dougsko> lawltoad: check this out, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/How%20to%20install%20Ubuntu%20on%20MacBook%20using%20USB%20Stick
[20:11] <sorta> i'm trying to provide numpy with a lapack/blas package. I have liblapack3gf installed, but i still get numpy.distutils.system_info.NotFoundError: no lapack/blas resources found
[20:12] <dougsko> lawltoad: its a little more complicated than the cd option but it doesnt look toooo bad
[20:14] <guest-VlcdmG> hy, I did something stupid: I deleted my user password for my only admin account; more exactly "sudo passwd -d <username>". So now I can't log in. I tried to set a password in the recovery mode but this didn't work, I think it's because I choose to encrypt my home directory durring the installation.
[20:14] <guest-VlcdmG> ... is it possible to fix this or am I out of luck?
[20:15] <htqp> chroot, then ''passwd username'' inside the chroot
[20:15] <htqp> !chroot
[20:16] <Christopher-Were> hey guys, im trying to install virtualbox-additions-x11 on 14.04.2 but I can't. It says I have unmet dependancies.
[20:17] <Christopher-Were> I'm running 14.04.2 in a virtual machine incase it wasn't obvious
[20:18] <rypervenche> Christopher-Were: Can you provide us with the actual output please?
[20:19] <rypervenche> Christopher-Were: In a pastebin. And also if you could give the output of "cat /etc/apt/sources.list" as well as "ls -l /etc/apt/sources.list.d" that would be helpful.
[20:20] <OerHeks> virtualbox in ubuntu in a vm .. ?
[20:20] * OerHeks thinks that doesn't work well
[20:21] <Christopher-Were> I'm testing out Bella OS (which is based on 14.04.2) in a VM which is install on Ubuntu
[20:22] <anon> hie
[20:22] <anon> hai
[20:22] <OerHeks> Christopher-Were, find Bella support channel then, we do not support forks.
[20:22] <k1l_> please ask bellaOS guys for support
[20:23] <OerHeks> Christopher-Were, anyway: any virtualbox in linux in a VM gives trouble AFAIK
[20:23] <Christopher-Were> They don't have an IRC channel. Since it's basically a re-skin I figured there'd be little difference. I actually dorce installed and it seemed to work, so sorry for wasting your guys time.
[20:24] <Christopher-Were> force install rather
[20:24] <Christopher-Were> Thanks for your help and attention.
[20:25] <htqp> we don't know their repositories, so we can't know if/what packages of bellaos conflict with stock ubuntu's ones
[20:25] <rypervenche> Glad you got it fixed :)
[20:25] <dougsko> Christopher-Were: use virtualbox to insert/install guest additions
[20:25] <dougsko> Christopher-Were: even if it doesnt run properly, it doesnt matter. mount the guest additions cd, and run the install or autorun script
[20:27] <Christopher-Were> The installer has returned errors with Linux headers. But as OurHeks said, this kinda trouble comes with the VM territory.
[20:27] <dougsko> Christopher-Were: are you running a guest within a guest?
[20:28] <Christopher-Were> To be clear. I'm running Mint 17.1 on my computer. I installed VirtualBox and am running Bella OS on it. Bella OS is based on 14.04.2
[20:28] <DJones> Christopher-Were: Neither Mint or Bella OS would be supported here
[20:28] <DJones> !mint | Christopher-Were
[20:29] <dougsko> Christopher-Were: ok, i think OerHeks may have thought you were running a guest inside a guest. as long as youre not doing that, you should be ok. look for instructions on how to install guest additions on debian. they should be applicable.
[20:29] <k1l_> Christopher-Were: all your issue are form the spin offs that do fiddle with the repos themselves. so please ask them how to solve that issue appropriatly.
[20:29] <genii> So you're running a non-supported Ubuntu derivative inside another unsupported Ubuntu derivative
[20:29] <Christopher-Were> Okay, no need to all jump on me at once. Jeees
[20:41] <Olxd> hello
[20:41] <Olxd> any hackers
[20:41] <k1l_> Olxd: no hax0r stuff in here
[20:51] <roky> Anyone sit in the ubuntu channel even though they run mint?
[20:51] <sorta> why doesn't `dpkg --list` say anything about liblapack-dev ?
[20:51] <pbx> roky, sit in, sure. ask questions and get answers, no :)
[20:52] <roky> haha :)
[20:52] <TheBlindGhoulie3> ok-im going to try this again now that im not so busy.Anyone have any experience with rEFInd on mac?
[20:53] <TheBlindGhoulie3> If I want to Dual Boot my Apple with Ubuntu I have to install a program called rEFInd. It allows you to boot Ubuntu, but Im getting something wrong apparently
[20:53] <roky> What's happening?
[20:54] <OerHeks> TheBlindGhoulie3, rEFInd is the old way, iirc, see the mactel pages
[20:54] <OerHeks> !mac
[20:55] <TheBlindGhoulie3> ok thanks!!
[20:55] <Kandean> Hola a todos
[20:55] <roky> @OerHeks, I remember it all too well :(
[20:55] <roky> Que tal
[20:55] <OerHeks> roky i remember it from support here, never owned a mac myself
[20:56] <Guest62196> hy !!
[20:58] <wallbroken> hi
[20:59] <wallbroken> somebody got dell xps ?
[20:59] <TheBlindGhoulie3> that covers ubuntu 10.0.2-will that work for installing Ubuntu 14.0.2?
[21:01] <pbx> wallbroken, i've installed ubuntu on an xps. to get good help you need to ask your whole question
[21:01] <wallbroken> it's 2015 version?
[21:01] <wallbroken> i just want to know how 14.10 works on it
[21:02] <wallbroken> i know that the last xps supporting ubuntu got 12.04 version
[21:02] <wallbroken> called xps developer edition
[21:02] <TheBlindGhoulie3> and according to the link you sent it still uses rEFInd bc rEFit isnt maintained any longer
[21:02] <pbx> wallbroken - that's an indicator of dell's attention span only
[21:03] <k1l_> wallbroken: dell got a department making sure linux/ubuntu runs on their laptops
[21:03] <wallbroken> dell sells xps with ubuntu already installed
[21:03] <pbx> wallbroken, actually, looks like they're shipping 14.04 now http://www.dell.com/us/business/p/xps-13-linux/pd
[21:03] <k1l_> project sputnik is what its called
[21:03] <wallbroken> but this year, with the last model, there is not
[21:04] <k1l_> wallbroken: ^
[21:04] <wallbroken> is not dell that writes the driver for it
[21:04] <pbx> wallbroken, dell is unlikely to choose non-LTS versions
[21:04] <wallbroken> project sputnik is just a cloud stuff
[21:04] <k1l_> wallbroken: nope
[21:05] <wallbroken> pbx, 14.04 is lts
[21:05] <wallbroken> but dell sells developer edition with 12.04
[21:06] <pbx> wallbroken, i commented re LTS because you asked about 14.10
[21:06] <OerHeks> wallbroken, no, 2015 edition with 14.04 lts http://www.zdnet.com/article/dell-xps-13-linux-developer-edition-available/
[21:07] <wallbroken> oh ok
[21:07] <byaruhaf> just wondering why is a text editor the default calendar application in Ubuntu?
[21:08] <wallbroken> and dell will give me support about operating system?
[21:08] <k1l_> byaruhaf: what?
[21:09] <k1l_> wallbroken: why not ask dell if you want that specific answers?
[21:09] <jaith> I hope this doesn't sound like a ridiculous question. Can a user belong to more than one group?
[21:09] <k1l_> jaith: yes.
[21:09] <wallbroken> because dell customer service does not know anything
[21:10] <k1l_> jaith: type "groups" in terminal to see what groups you are in already
[21:10] <wallbroken> and i don't want to fight with them
[21:11] <k1l_> dell will support the preinstalled windows as it does with windows: it ships drivers.
[21:11] <dust> is there a mode for handicapped or disabled persons? how to get into it and how to leave it?
[21:11] <k1l_> "hey dell, how can i watch netflix on my xps" will not work of course.
[21:12] <byaruhaf> K1l_ in the settings under details the deault Applicaiton for calendar is a text editor, gedit
[21:12] <k1l_> dust: you can start the accessibility menu on the login screen
[21:13] <k1l_> byaruhaf: which settings?
[21:13] <k1l_> byaruhaf: ah, hmm. same for me here
[21:14] <byaruhaf> k1l: in the system setting ubuntu 14.04
[21:14] <jaith> OK so I'd like to create a new group, say "developers" and add a couple of users to it. I'm guessing this should NOT be a system group and that I should use the groupadd command. I don't understand the point of additional parameters like password (do groups have passwords??) or --key or --root
[21:14] <jaith> NOTE: the point of this group is to set permissions for a git repo I'd like to host via SSH
[21:14] <k1l_> byaruhaf: seems lik bug 841409
[21:15] <jaith> is "sudo groupadd developers" a good approach to this?
[21:16] <dust> k1l_, and when im already logged in? how can someone change to it or get out of it at a running desktop
[21:20] <foreign3> Hello, I am trying to install TeXlive using "sudo apt-get install texlive-full" but I get an error saying: "E: Unable to correct problems, you have held broken packages." To correct them I tried : "sudo apt-get autoremove" followed by "sudo apt-get -f install" both commands said: "0 to upgrade, 0 to newly install, 0 to remove and 0 not to upgrade." I retried installing and failed. I then tried "sudo dpkg --configure -a" followed by "s
[21:20] <foreign3> udo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade" that too said : "0 to upgrade, 0 to newly install, 0 to remove and 0 not to upgrade." any idea where to look next?
[21:21] <foreign3> (I am using 12.04 by the way!)
[21:23] <k1l_> foreign3: can you show the output where it names what packages are the issue in a pastebin?
[21:23] <Mnemonic> Hi, I need to do a 1-to-1 NAT in IPtables, but I cannot get my Ubuntu Linux Server to publish the IP on the external interface. Can anyone hint me on what to look for..
[21:25] <foreign3> k1l_, yes sure: http://pastebin.com/G6eM5aPa
[21:27] <foreign3> There are numerous packages as you see. By the way I also tried "sudo apt-get autoclean" and "sudo apt-get clean" before installing but that didn't help either.
[21:27] <k1l_> erm, well. that is a lot of issues :)
[21:27] <Patero-ng> Can anyone here give me an explanation as to why my ubuntu crashed last night while I was doing nothing just using the dash searching for a program, the screen turned into a blocks of green objects!
[21:28] <k1l_> foreign3: ok, run a "sudo apt-get update". then try to install "sudo apt-get install texlive-latex-extra" and see what the issue is then
[21:29] <k1l_> Patero-ng: see the old logs what happend
[21:31] <foreign3> k1l_, http://pastebin.com/e5GLMvYW
[21:33] <foreign3> I suspect that I have deactivate some basic repo...
[21:33] <k1l_> foreign3: hmm, can you please show the repos with "cat /etc/apt/sources.list" and "ls -al /etc/apt/sources.list.d"
[21:34] <Patero-ng> k1l_ where are those logs
[21:34] <gtan> Hi! My ubuntu 14.10 is frozen - btrfs-transacti - anyideas?
[21:34] <Patero-ng> mine frozed too last night
[21:34] <Patero-ng> it was cold
[21:34] <foreign3> http://pastebin.com/rrS21qm0
[21:35] <k1l_> Patero-ng: /var/log/ and them syslog and xorg and dmesg. but keep in mind that after every reboot they get recycled to .0 or .1 etc
[21:36] <foreign3> k1l_, http://pastebin.com/gMG3xi8p (for the 'ls')
[21:37] <gtan> I accidentally deleted the network settings .. how do I enable / add that from root prompt?
[21:37] <aldarsior> does anyone know if there’s a way to make sssd/realmd work with normal usernames rather than [email protected] ?
[21:37] <k1l_> foreign3: ok, universe is enabled, too. and i dont see a ppa for latex so far.
[21:38] <k1l_> foreign3: what gives you "sudo apt-get upgrade"?
[21:38] <foreign3> should that be in universe?
[21:38] <k1l_> foreign3: texlive-full is in universe, yes
[21:39] <foreign3> "0 to upgrade, 0 to newly install, 0 to remove and 0 not to upgrade."
[21:39] <foreign3> (after running apt-get 'update' and then 'upgrade')
[21:39] <k1l_> foreign3: try to install texlive-binaries
[21:40] <k1l_> foreign3: maybe we get to the end of the line and see what is really blocking
[21:40] <foreign3> that's much worse: http://pastebin.com/jfzzD3ag
[21:41] <k1l_> ouch
[21:41] <foreign3> something is holding back even "g++"... fun stuff!
[21:43] <foreign3> I suspect that without releasing I probably did a partial distribution update at some point. I cannot explain it otherwise.
[21:43] <k1l_> yep, that is really a mess.
[21:44] <k1l_> what gives you a "uname -d"?
[21:45] <foreign3> '-d' ? nothing.
[21:45] <Neyhart> m.b. uname -a?
[21:45] <k1l_> argh, not uname. "lsb_release -d" and "uname -a"
[21:45] <foreign3> "Linux pantelis-U400 3.13.0-49-generic #81~precise1-Ubuntu SMP Wed Mar 25 16:32:15 UTC 2015 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux"
[21:45] <foreign3> (-a)
[21:46] <foreign3> " lsb_release -d >> Description: Ubuntu 12.04.5 LTS" so that is OK.
[21:47] <k1l_> 3.13 is a enablement stack kernel, right?
[21:47] <kokut> Hello is there a way to disable the system logs? its parking my freaking hard drive every 5 seconds and it's driving me ****** nuts
[21:47] <foreign3> I believe that it is, yes.
[21:48] <hkrrsx> foreign3: Forgive me if you've already tried this but what happens if you run " sudo aptitude build-dep texlive-binaries " ?
[21:48] <hkrrsx> Just to see if it'll install those depends
[21:49] <foreign3> hkrrsx, I have not tried it. I will try it now.
[21:49] <k1l_> foreign3: only exit path i see no is to try a "sudo apt-get install -f" but that will force that to install. so maybe it breaks more than is broken now.
[21:50] <foreign3> hkrrsx, it is installing "some stuff" just a moment.
[21:50] <foreign3> k1l_, I tried this already.
[21:50] <foreign3> -f returns 0 packages.
[21:50] <foreign3> "0 to upgrade, 0 to newly install, 0 to remove and 0 not to upgrade."
[21:50] <hkrrsx> foreign3: Can you pastebin the output of that "some stuff" when it's done ?
[21:50] <hkrrsx> I'd like to see what it's installing
[21:52] <kokut> please anyone knows how to turn of system logs?
[21:52] <kokut> i'm not using them
[21:52] <foreign3> http://pastebin.com/QEjfZt1X
[21:52] <kokut> and its parking my drive every 5 seconds and i can hear the clicking sound
[21:52] <hkrrsx> Thanks
[21:53] <hkrrsx> foreign3: Care to try the same for gcc-4.4 ?
[21:53] <hkrrsx> sudo aptitude build-dep gcc-4.4
[21:53] <hkrrsx> And then afterwards, sudo apt-get install gcc-4.4
[21:54] <foreign3> nope.
[21:54] <hkrrsx> Nope? Meaning?
[21:54] <foreign3> http://pastebin.com/9qzF9Wxn
[21:54] <kokut> nvm found a solution turning off power management for the drive :)
[21:54] <hkrrsx> Ah
[21:54] <foreign3> (sorry I wanted to pastebin it first)
[21:55] <hkrrsx> Understood
[21:55] <hkrrsx> sudo apt-get install texlive-base texlive-binaries
[21:57] <foreign3> http://pastebin.com/2neasJmQ
[21:57] <foreign3> that created a lot of new config files. It also installed 'eperl' .
[21:58] <nda_> I've tried to follow various guides on making Ubuntu work with NetBIOS names. I basically just want to access the Linux box using the hostname from a Windows box. I've installed samba and even winbind, but nothing seems to work as expected. :( For example, this didn't help me: http://ppanyukov.github.io/2011/08/17/hostname-resolve.html
[21:58] <hkrrsx> Indeed it did ... sudo apt-get install gcc-4.4 again, please
[21:58] <nda_> Any ideas? :\
[21:59] <foreign3> at this point "udo apt-get build-dep texlive-full" said "0 to upgrade, 0 to new install, 0..,0..."
[21:59] <hkrrsx> Right, that's b/c that command is only building the dependencies for texlive-full
[21:59] <foreign3> still nope I am afraid. (I p-b now)
[22:00] <milehigh> what is the command I enter on command line to open the GUI update manager?
[22:00] <k1l_> milehigh: update-manager is the command
[22:00] <milehigh> thanks
[22:03] <foreign3> http://pastebin.com/G73ntSvB
[22:03] <foreign3> (sorry my internet connection froze)
[22:04] <arno_> Hey there, do you know if I can have opengl es2 with nvidia drivers?
[22:05] <hkrrsx> Ok, so you've got the dependencies for texlive-base and texlive-binaries installed ...... what about now doing sudo apt-get install texlive-base and texlive-binaries ? The install should go really fast if it works now
[22:06] <foreign3> the same as before.
[22:06] <hkrrsx> Build-dependencies for gcc-4.4 could not be satisfied ?
[22:07] <foreign3> http://pastebin.com/VHnbhQ9e
[22:07] <foreign3> no they could not.
[22:07] <nda_> Regarding my problem, I was finally able to ping the Linux hostname from Windows after disabling the firewall.
[22:08] <hkrrsx> foreign3: Try this: sudo apt-cache policy gcc
[22:08] <hkrrsx> What does the line for " Installed " say ?
[22:08] <foreign3> gcc-4.4 wants texlive-binaries anyway.
[22:08] <foreign3> Installed: 4:4.6.3-1ubuntu5
[22:11] <existme> Hi
[22:11] <existme> Could anyone help me with a driver installation?
[22:12] <hkrrsx> foreign3: Last thing that comes to mind is a semi-dangerous " sudo aptitude full-upgrade "
[22:12] <hkrrsx> That'll upgrade ALL packages and potentially remove some old ones
[22:12] <veritablej> anyone else had ubuntu-geoip-provider running 100% cpu and never finishing?
[22:13] <foreign3> I haven't seen this option just a moment.
[22:13] <hkrrsx> foreign3: I'd say run a simulation first ..... " sudo aptitude -s full-upgrade "
[22:13] <hkrrsx> The -s is for Simulate
[22:14] <foreign3> I can't seem to be able to run that command.
[22:15] <Bray90820> What is a good size for your /boot partition
[22:15] <Patero-ng> 50GB
[22:15] <foreign3> (in general aptitude is not a command I can use)
[22:15] <foreign3> (I have to replace it with apt-get)
[22:15] <EriC^^> Bray90820: 500mb maybe
[22:15] <Bray90820> Patero-ng: were you talking to me?
[22:15] <bekks> Bray90820: 512M
[22:16] <[n0mad]> my boot partition is 512MB
[22:16] <Patero-ng> Bray90820 no I was talking to him
[22:16] <[n0mad]> sorry, 524MB
[22:16] <hkrrsx> Ok, apt-get dist-upgrade would be the equivalent, I believe
[22:16] <existme> I am trying to install AMD Ati Radeon HD 4870 Driver which is no longer supported by AMD. Anyone knows how to do it?
[22:16] <Bray90820> Would it be odd if a 200MB /boot partition became full
[22:17] <EriC^^> Bray90820: that's about 4 kernels
[22:17] <foreign3> hkrrsx, do you mean 'dist-upgrade' ?
[22:17] <EriC^^> so yeah that could happen
[22:18] <hkrrsx> I thought that's what I said, no?
[22:18] <Bray90820> EriC^^: I looked at it and it papers that about 55% of it is being used by fonts
[22:18] <foreign3> hkrrsx, I think you said 'full'. I did not know they are the same.
[22:18] <foreign3> in any case : "0 to upgrade, 0 to newly install, 0 to remove and 0 not to upgrade."
[22:19] <foreign3> both with '-s' and without.
[22:19] <hkrrsx> foreign3: Yeah, aptitude was full-upgrade, apt-get was dist-upgrade
[22:20] <Patero-ng> foreign3 comeplete line
[22:20] <hkrrsx> Unfortunately though, my mind came to a grinding halt on options for you
[22:21] <foreign3> Patero-ng, excuse me what?
[22:21] <foreign3> hkrrsx, thank you very much for your time.
[22:21] <hkrrsx> Sorry I couldn't be of further assistance
[22:21] <foreign3> and to k1l_ of course :)
[22:22] <Patero-ng> foreign3 the full set yes
[22:22] <hkrrsx> k1l_: My apologies for hijacking your helping of foreign3
[22:23] <k1l_> Patero-ng: stop that nonsense in here. this channel is to really help people.
[22:23] <k1l_> hkrrsx: no problem, i said i was out of ideas.
[22:23] <Bray9082_> EriC^^: https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/33402675/Boot.png
[22:23] <Bray9082_> Does that look normal
[22:24] <Bray9082_> EriC^^:
[22:24] <Bray9082_> sorry for pinging you twice
[22:26] <EriC^^> Bray9082_: type dpkg -l | grep linux-image
[22:26] <braderhart1> exit
[22:27] <Bray9082_> EriC^^: https://gist.github.com/anonymous/82806d90438a928b33cf
[22:28] <EriC^^> Bray9082_: type uname -r
[22:28] <wldcordeiro_> I tried to install kubuntu-desktop but I think some of the packages failed is there a way to force apt-get to redownload/install all the packages?
[22:28] <xangua> wldcordeiro_: what error message do you get¿
[22:28] <Bray9082_> EriC^^: 3.16.0-33-generic
[22:29] <EriC^^> ok, is it working fine Bray9082_ ?
[22:29] <wldcordeiro_> xangua: I didn't get any errors but when I go to login to the kubuntu desktop the window manager selector isn't there and then it just logs into a really bare gnome desktop
[22:29] <EriC^^> any reason you're not using 34?
[22:29] <wldcordeiro_> Like just a wallpaper and guake started up.
[22:29] <wldcordeiro_> I think my xsession got messed up but I'm not sure how to correct it.
[22:30] <Bray9082_> EriC^^: I can't seem to install updates because boot is full
[22:30] <foreign3> hkrrsx, I tried synaptic to check the status of packages, none comes up as broken.
[22:30] <hkrrsx> Interesting
[22:30] <EriC^^> Bray9082_: ok, type sudo apt-get purge linux-image-3.16.0-{23,30,31}-generic
[22:31] <foreign3> Given that this installation obviously has "issues" I will opt to reinstall all manually installed packages.
[22:32] <foreign3> I am sure this will properly mess up my system or sort something out.
[22:32] <EriC^^> foreign3: what issues?
[22:33] <foreign3> EriC^^, like being unable to install texlive-binaries and as a result being unable to install gcc-4.4.
[22:33] <Bray9082_> EriC^^: should I try to install updates after I purge the kernel
[22:33] <EriC^^> Bray9082_: you could, yes
[22:34] <EriC^^> Bray9082_: try rebooting into the newer kernel if you want
[22:34] <foreign3> EriC^^, I really need pdflatex for my work at this point.
[22:35] <EriC^^> foreign3: why can't you install texlive-binaries?
[22:36] <foreign3> "E: Error, pkgProblemResolver::Resolve generated breaks, this may be caused by held packages."
[22:36] <foreign3> We tried to install the dependencies manually that did not work.
[22:36] <EriC^^> foreign3: did you try sudo apt-get -f install?
[22:37] <foreign3> yes I have.
[22:37] <foreign3> "0 to upgrade, 0 to newly install, 0 to remove and 0 not to upgrade."
[22:39] <EriC^^> foreign3: type cat /var/log/dist-upgrade/apt.log | nc termbin.com 9999
[22:40] <foreign3> http://termbin.com/rrw4
[22:43] <Bray9082_> EriC^^: Thanks it seems to work now
[22:43] <EriC^^> Bray9082_: great
[22:44] <kokut> Hello, anyone knows how to update mesa to the latest?
[22:44] <EriC^^> foreign3: type awk '/Broken/ {print $2}'/var/log/dist-upgrade/apt.log | xargs sudo apt-get purge
[22:45] <EriC^^> foreign3: if you want just use the awk command to see the list first to see what it'll remove
[22:45] <EriC^^> foreign3: sorry, there's a space after {print $2}' /var/log...
[22:46] <ki7mt> goona aad that one to my awk one liner list for sure :-)
[22:46] <ki7mt> ..add
[22:48] <foreign3> EriC^^, what should I do with that list?
[22:51] <foreign3> http://tny.cz/e24688b3
[22:52] <foreign3> (sorry I have to use tinypaste now, I reached by 10 paste/24 hours limit in pastebin)
[22:52] <LeDuke> yo
[22:52] <ki7mt> wow, gcc 4.4 and openjdk-6 .. how old is this system / what distro is it?
[22:52] <LeDuke> how do I play midi files?
[22:53] <ki7mt> LeDuke, Here's one way: http://blog.thameera.com/playing-midi-files-in-ubuntu/
[22:54] <askk> hi i installed ubuntu 14.10 on hp stream 7 i installed the driver for wifi and touch screen my question how i save the state and size of the virtual keyboard florence on ubunut login any idea ?
[22:54] <foreign3> 12.04.5
[22:55] <EriC^^> foreign3: if you can, try to remove the packages that have unmet dependencies
[22:56] <EriC^^> foreign3: maybe purge any ppa's you don't need
[22:57] <foreign3> OK. Thank you.
[22:57] <foreign3> I will look into removing ppa that I do not need.
[22:57] <kokut> EriC^^: hey man, do you know where can i get the latest open source intel drivers for ubuntu?
[22:58] <kokut> for gpu
[22:58] <ki7mt> foreign3, FWIW, 21.04.5 manifest shows gcc 4.6 and openjre is gone missing, but 12.04.4 had openjdk-6
[22:58] <askk> hi i installed ubuntu 14.10 on tablet pc hp stream 7 i installed the driver for wifi and touch screen my question how i save the state and size of the virtual keyboard florence on ubunut login any idea ?
[22:58] <EriC^^> foreign3: do you know about ppa-purge?
[22:58] <foreign3> nope!
[22:58] <LeDuke> thanx ki7mt
[22:58] <foreign3> :)
[22:58] <EriC^^> !ppa-purge
[22:59] <hkrrsx> foreign3: A thought that just came to mind .... what about upgrading to 14.04 LTS? These PreDepends messages say that the required versions of the software is newer than what's available in your repositories
[22:59] <LeDuke> ki7mt, I tried that but it just stalls!
[23:00] <foreign3> it is an 7 year old system that even 7 years back was not top of the pops....
[23:00] <EriC^^> 14.04 is actually quicker than 12.04
[23:00] <ki7mt> LeDuke, ok, well here's the official Ubuntu version, I didn't do an exhaustive search though: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Midi/SoftwareSynthesisHowTo
[23:00] <foreign3> OK.
[23:02] <foreign3> anyway I need to work a bit eventually today. Thank you k1l_, hkrrsx and EriC^^ for your time.
[23:02] <kostkon> foreign3, 14.04 is more optimised in terms of memory consumption, compiz/unity performance, etc
[23:02] <foreign3> I will upgrade to 14.04 and I will take it from there.
[23:02] <foreign3> thanks again.
[23:02] <hkrrsx> foreign3: lol, hope it turns out well for you :)
[23:03] <askk> hi i installed ubuntu 14.10 on tablet pc hp stream 7 i installed the driver for wifi and touch screen my question how i save the state and size of the virtual keyboard florence on ubunut login any idea ?
[23:09] <tylero> pornhub.com
[23:09] <genii> tylero: Not appropriate for this channel.
[23:10] <netlar> I know this is the Ubuntu channel, but OSX does not allow you to create a crontab file?
[23:10] <Ben64> you gotta ask the osx channel
[23:10] <bekks> Of course it does :)
[23:11] <netlar> I am using crontab -e to create the new crontab, is that correct?
[23:11] <Ben64> ask the osx channel for osx issues...
[23:14] <hkrrsx> netlar: See this URL and then /join ##mac ---- http://alvinalexander.com/mac-os-x/mac-osx-startup-crontab-launchd-jobs
[23:46] <iejnctieutnc> hello! i am on free ubuntu!
[23:47] <bekks> There is no unfree ubuntu ;)
[23:47] <iejnctieutnc> hello bekks!
[23:49] <estudiante> hola
[23:49] <estudiante> adrian
[23:55] <snkcld> ive got a laptop with some macro extra keys on the side, like "P1", "P2", etc...
[23:55] <snkcld> i want to leverage them in ubuntu, by taking their keycodes and remapping them to different functions
[23:56] <snkcld> however, they show up as "~", "caps lock" "tab" etc
[23:56] <snkcld> is there some _other_ flag hidden in the key input that i can use to differentiate that key?
[23:57] <ebonics> anyone know why i'd be seeing black thumbnails and flat black images for jpeg files in eog?
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2015-04-10-#ubuntu-quality
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[14:44] <brendand> elopio, hello
[14:44] <elopio> brendand: hi.
[14:45] <brendand> elopio, when trying the grid units test did you get something like this? http://paste.ubuntu.com/10792030/
[14:45] <elopio> brendand: no.
[14:45] <elopio> I got the app opened
[14:46] <elopio> just the click happened in the wrong place.
[14:46] <brendand> elopio, oh. did you see this type of error before? did i do something wrong?
[14:46] <elopio> brendand: are you running on the device?
[14:46] <brendand> elopio, yes
[14:46] <elopio> brendand: maybe you missed the dbus probe?
[14:47] <brendand> elopio, yeah i was thinking. it doesn't look like the normal error you get there, but i'll try
[14:47] <elopio> and, are you running with phablet-test-run from the host?
[14:49] <elopio> I can't boot my arale anymore :'(
[14:52] <brendand> elopio, no on the device
[14:53] <elopio> brendand: try phablet-test-run, I remember something funny running from the device.
[14:57] <brendand> elopio, i didn't know it was possible to run tests from the branch with phablet-test-run
[14:58] <elopio> brendand: ah, you have to deploy the branch first. I generally get the deb from the last jenkins execution and install it.
[14:58] <brendand> elopio, right
[15:01] <brendand> elopio, standup?
[15:01] <brendand> rhuddie, ^
[15:02] <elopio> brendand: there is a stakeholders meeting that I need to attend.
[15:02] <rhuddie> brendand, omw
[15:02] <elopio> I'll update the doc.
[15:02] <brendand> elopio, ok
[15:45] <bfiller> davmor2: don't think this is an oxide bug https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1442692
[15:46] <bfiller> davmor2: it's an issue with flickr, some images are copy protected and can't be downloaded
[15:46] <bfiller> davmor2: at least I think so, this has happened in the past. looking for bug..
[15:47] <davmor2> bfiller: yeap looking at changing the steps to not rely on flikr
[15:48] <davmor2> bfiller: works pointing at ubuntu.com and grabbing the first image from there
[15:48] <bfiller> davmor2: thanks, if you look in ~/Pictures I believe a 0 byte gif is downloaded in the case it's copy protected but it's not displayed by the gallery
[15:56] <cyphermox> plars: looks like there are some issues running the smoke testing that should move desktop iso images to the current directory?
[15:57] <cyphermox> I was asking jibel who told me to ping you, looks like the installer might not even be starting
[16:00] <elopio> ubuntu-qa: I'm about to meet with unity-apis, to talk about upstreaming the helpers, in case somebody wants to join.
[16:00] <elopio> it's in the calendar.
[16:03] <jfunk> coming
[16:03] <alesage> elopio, say hi for me :)
[16:04] <fgimenez> elopio, i'm leaving sorry
[16:04] <rvr> davmor2: The (related) problem I found before was that images won't open in the gallery in full screen
[20:49] <ianorlin> is there any reason you can't apport-collect to a file ? Is it because it would need to get info on the bug from launchpad
[20:51] <ianorlin> If we had the user filing the bug imput the package name could apport-collect know which info to collect and save in a file though?
[20:51] <ianorlin> I might want this because I can't really login to launchpad with a text browser because of anti bot stuff
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2015-04-10-#ubuntu-cn
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[00:00] <^k^> 新 初学者园地 - 14.10 • date命令显示的是中文，如何改回英文 http://forum.ubuntu.org.cn/viewtopic.php?t=469391 date命令显示的是中文，比如：8月9日，星期五。怎样改成英文呢？ zz: wingrin — 2015-04-10 7:21
[00:38] <Z|C> 早上好
[00:38] <Z|C> 早上好 小k
[00:38] <Z|C> test
[00:38] <^k^> Z|C:点点点. 08:38
[01:05] <iotouch> morning
[01:13] <hoxily> jusss: morning
[01:13] <jusss> hoxily: 早
[01:14] <jusss> hoxily: 我在看bash 元编程
[01:14] <hoxily> jusss: 有个叫NIM的语言
[01:15] <hoxily> 你看看是不是
[01:17] <jusss> hoxily: 强制缩进？没看见括号
[01:18] <iMadper> nim不错.
[01:24] <^k^> 暂无新帖 讲个笑话吧: 尚未发主 : 一男青年到XX大学去看望他的女朋友,门卫要他填写会客单。姓名、性别、地址、年龄……一直填到最后"关系"一栏时,只见男青年思考半天,填下了"尚未发生"四个字。
[01:24] <jusss> while read line;do
[01:24] <jusss> eval $line
[01:24] <jusss> done < $file
[01:25] <jusss> $file的内容是 echo hello echo world
[01:25] <jusss> 怎么就输出了hello ?
[01:33] <hoxily> jusss: 因为遇到了 EOF
[01:34] <hoxily> jusss: 你需要每一行都有换行符在行尾clxy
[01:34] <hoxily> 才行
[01:34] <hoxily> echo hello\necho world\n
[01:35] <jusss> hoxily: 可是$file这个文件里有换行
[01:35] <jusss> echo hello
[01:35] <jusss> echo world
[01:35] <jusss> 有换行呀
[01:42] <jusss> hoxily: 果然是需要多加一个换行
[01:42] <jusss> 真怪异
[01:42] <jusss> read读取EOF做结束对吧
[01:43] <hoxily> 读到EOF read 的返回值就是 False
[01:44] <hoxily> 所以你需要确保每一行末尾都得有换行符
[01:46] <hoxily> jusss: 我这儿测试正常呢
[01:47] <hoxily> jusss: 你肯定是行尾缺少换行符
[01:48] <hoxily> jusss: 你可以用 hexdump -C file 来看看 有没有 0x0a 字符
[01:48] <hoxily> jusss: http://blog.csdn.net/hoxily/article/details/44242783
[01:48] <^k^> hoxily: ⇪ 文本每行都应该换行吗（cat输出文件时会在末尾自动加上换行吗） - hoxily的窝窝 - 博客频道 - CSDN.NET
[01:48] <jiero> 循环 徘徊 抱抱 roylez
[01:49] <hoxily> jusss: http://openwares.net/linux/while_read_line_last_line.html 按照规范，应该每行末尾换行，但是如果没有换行，可以用这段代码：http://openwares.net/linux/while_read_line_last_line.html
[01:49] <^k^> ⇪ ti: while read line无法读取最后一行的问题 | OpenWares | Open Source and Free Matters
[01:51] <hoxily> jusss: vim默认是每行末尾都有换行符的
[01:52] <hoxily> jusss: 虽然从vim的界面上看不出来。
[01:53] <jusss> hoxily: 我用的emacs
[02:03] <Z^C> You are already logged in as Z^C.
[02:04] <Z^C> 这是啥意思
[02:04] <Z^C> You are already logged in as Z^C.
[02:04] <Z^C> 啥意思
[02:10] <O0XX> freeflying: 拜候总
[02:12] <roylez> O0XX: 快被115的蛋疼玩意整死了
[02:12] <O0XX> roylez: 你要加115的支持?
[02:13] <O0XX> cherrot: 兔子, 有好事没?
[02:13] <roylez> O0XX: 想来着
[02:13] <roylez> O0XX: 能够登陆，不过登陆后什么命令都返回302
[02:13] <cherrot> O0XX, 没有 全司没有一个妹子
[02:13] <cherrot> O0XX, 怎么会有好事
[02:14] <roylez> cherrot: 我擦，好公司啊
[02:14] <O0XX> cherrot: 贵司没有妹纸? 那个特别胸的那个呢?
[02:14] <O0XX> roylez: ...
[02:14] <cherrot> O0XX, 我什么时候说过有特别胸的。。
[02:14] <O0XX> cherrot: 你发过果照啊
[02:14] <roylez> cherrot: 你主管，200斤的那个
[02:14] <cherrot> O0XX, 那不是你的照片么
[02:15] * cherrot 你们真是够了。。
[02:15] <Z^C> 哎哎哎
[02:15] <Z^C> 天气真好
[02:17] <freeflying> O0XX: 你上次那东西跑起来了啊
[02:17] <O0XX> freeflying: 啥?
[02:18] <Z^C> 壕呢
[02:19] <O0XX> freeflying: 你搞什么呢?
[02:20] <freeflying> O0XX: 加人按错了
[02:20] <O0XX> freeflying: ...
[02:21] <O0XX> freeflying: 买买买 https://insights.ubuntu.com/2015/04/09/designed-for-developers-dell-launches-two-new-ubuntu-based-systems/?utm_source=ubunteu&utm_medium=url_shortner&utm_term=9H8bb0&utm_campaign=shortner
[02:21] <^k^> ⇪ ti: Designed for developers – Dell launches two new Ubuntu-based systems | Ubuntu Insights
[02:24] <BuMangHuo> 早
[02:25] <BuMangHuo> momo cherrot roylez O0XX freeflying onlylove__ onlylove_ onlylove
[02:25] <BuMangHuo> 色大象呢
[02:25] <onlylove__> BuMangHuo: 早
[02:25] <roylez> +1君你早啊 BuMangHuo
[02:25] <onlylove__> BuMangHuo: 大象大概可能没来，要不你先看看有没有可疑ID
[02:25] <onlylove__> BuMangHuo: 大象爱换ID你知道
[02:26] <freeflying> O0XX: 亲，还买Ubuntu笔记本啊
[02:26] <O0XX> freeflying: 这个xps不错的说
[02:26] <O0XX> freeflying: ubuntu另说
[02:27] <BuZhanRen> roylez: 115 盘还活着？
[02:27] <O0XX> BuZhanRen: 补斩人先生你好
[02:27] <roylez> BuZhanRen: 不知道，没用过
[02:27] <O0XX> BuZhanRen: 你差多少就补够了?
[02:27] <BuZhanRen> 搞个工具同步几个网盘的数据
[02:29] <freeflying> O0XX: 亲，上mba吧
[02:29] <O0XX> MeiZhanGuoRen: 美斩过人先生你好, 不要炫耀了
[02:29] <MeiZhanGuoRen> O0XX: 上 mbp 吧
[02:29] <O0XX> freeflying: MeiZhanGuoRen 键盘太差
[02:30] <MeiZhanGuoRen> O0XX: 上个 hhkb 吧
[02:30] <freeflying> O0XX: 你试试mbp吧
[02:30] <cherrot> O0XX, 入我的红轴吧 珍藏款keycool 87
[02:30] <MeiZhanGuoRen> 用红轴是个什么体验？ cherrot
[02:31] <MeiZhanGuoRen> 跟黑，茶 青 哪个比较接近？
[02:31] <cherrot> MeiZhanGuoRen, 就是用了很多润滑油的感觉
[02:32] <onlylove> MeiZhanGuoRen: 科普网站说和黑很像
[02:32] <onlylove> MeiZhanGuoRen: 但是比黑轻
[02:32] <onlylove> cherrot: 为毛不是3494
[02:32] <MeiZhanGuoRen> cherrot: 润滑油？
[02:32] <cherrot> MeiZhanGuoRen, 没体验过这么多，需要行云流水的输入手感的话，那就红轴，需要啪嗒啪嗒扰民的敲击感 就入青轴茶轴
[02:33] <cherrot> MeiZhanGuoRen, O0XX 时加了润滑油就是红轴的感觉，不加润滑油就是青轴的感觉
[02:33] * MeiZhanGuoRen 还真没试过润滑油的感觉啊
[02:33] <O0XX> cherrot: 你不加润滑油的话, 声音会这么大?
[02:33] <MeiZhanGuoRen> 天然润滑还不够？
[02:33] <O0XX> MeiZhanGuoRen: 你又开始炫耀了...
[02:33] <cherrot> O0XX, 说的不是声音 是阻尼
[02:34] <cherrot> MeiZhanGuoRen, 妹汁你好
[02:34] * cherrot 偶对 应该叫润滑剂
[02:34] <MeiZhanGuoRen> 不清楚唉
[02:35] <MeiZhanGuoRen> cherrot: 真的不知道什么时候需要润滑
[02:36] <O0XX> MeiZhanGuoRen: 妹汁多的应该就不用了吧?
[02:36] <cherrot> mei
[02:36] <O0XX> cherrot: 贵司没女生?
[02:36] <cherrot> MeiZhanGuoRen, 针对你的情况 应该是 不用润滑剂就是黑轴，用了就是红轴
[02:36] <MeiZhanGuoRen> O0XX: 基本上正常的，都不需要吧
[02:36] <cherrot> MeiZhanGuoRen, 首先 如何定义正常
[02:37] <onlylove_> 突然想起一本叫尘埃落定的小说
[02:37] <cherrot> O0XX, 很少
[02:37] <MeiZhanGuoRen> cherrot: 取个均值啊
[02:37] <Z^C> 你们都说的是啥
[02:37] <Z^C> 完全不懂
[02:38] <cherrot> MeiZhanGuoRen, 更多情况下可能不是需不需要的问题 而是个人喜好
[02:38] <cherrot> MeiZhanGuoRen, 和你买键盘一样
[02:38] * onlylove_ 拜经验丰富 cherrot MeiZhanGuoRen
[02:39] <MeiZhanGuoRen> cherrot: 比较他讨厌油腻的感觉啊，所以比较油的TT都不喜欢
[02:42] * O0XX 汉堡是我的英文名！美媒称汉堡起源于肉夹馍
[02:46] <O0XX> MeiZhanGuoRen: 快去买来吃.. http://ww3.sinaimg.cn/bmiddle/69bc95a9jw1er0a0up5emj20xc18gdoz.jpg
[02:50] <^k^> 暂无新帖 讲个笑话吧: 雷人的厨师 : 一天去食堂吃饭吃到一半时,坐在后面的同事大叫:"靠,有几天没吃到苍蝇了。今天中奖了。" 那位同事把厨师叫了出来,告知了厨师原委。 那厨师一脸无所谓的样子说:"不就一只苍蝇而已,后面厨房里还有一堆呢。大惊小怪什么。没见过世面啊！现在经融危机,工
[02:50] <^k^> ─> 资都没多少了,哪有钱买肉埃就当下饭菜了。不够再说！ " 大家呆呆望着那厨师扬 …
[02:55] <^k^> 新 服务器基础应用 • 求教：我想做一个微网，用自己的电脑做服务器 http://forum.ubuntu.org.cn/viewtopic.php?t=469399 我用的是Ubuntu14.04 LTS，我想做个微网，然后可以从手机访问，但不知道怎么做，想请教高手！谢谢了！ zz: bruceman — 2015-04-10 10:55
[02:58] <MeiZhanGuoRen> 。。。
[02:59] <^k^> 新 Shell脚本 • 关于xargs的小BUG http://forum.ubuntu.org.cn/viewtopic.php?t=469400 suse@linux-337q:~/downs> find . -name '*.txt' ./d.txt ./新建 文件夹/m.txt suse@linux-337q:~/downs> find . -name '*.txt' | xargs rm -rf suse@linux-337q:~/downs> find . -name '*.txt' ./新建 文件夹/m.txt 为什么删不掉m.txt?有问题吧。 我换一种方法： suse@linux-3
[02:59] <^k^> ─> 37q:~/downs> find . -name '*.txt' -exec rm -rf {} \; suse@linux-337q:~/downs> find . -name '*.txt' suse@linux-337q:~/ …
[03:02] <onlylove_> 申通慢递，烦死了
[03:03] <Z^C> 小k
[03:03] <Z^C> ^k^ 中午好
[03:05] <roylez> O0XX: 搞了一天半搞不明白，放弃了
[03:05] <^k^> Z^C, .. 休息一下 .. 11:05
[03:05] <Z^C> time
[03:06] <Z^C> time
[03:06] <Z^C> test time
[03:15] <roylez> yunfan: https://truesecdev.wordpress.com/2015/04/09/hidden-backdoor-api-to-root-privileges-in-apple-os-x/
[03:15] <^k^> 新 因特网相关软件 • ARC Welder - Linux应用的终极解决方案 http://forum.ubuntu.org.cn/viewtopic.php?t=469402 一个chrome插件运行所有android应用， 什么QQ，微信，微博，通通搞定， 以后妈妈再也不用担心我用Linux了 &l
[03:16] <^k^> roylez: ⇪ 取标题超时 execution expired
[03:21] <yunfan> roylez: 这个我发过 在我频道
[03:30] <^k^> 新 常用硬件支持 • 蓝牙无法扫描到设备，求帮助！ http://forum.ubuntu.org.cn/viewtopic.php?t=469403 我的机器就使用的是蓝牙4。0，RTL系列 以下就相关命令的结果 hciconfig -a hci0: Type: BR/EDR Bus: USB BD Address: 48:D2:24:94:17:DD ACL MTU: 820:8 SCO MTU: 255:16 UP RUNNING PSCAN ISCAN INQUIRY RX bytes:5800 acl:0 sco:0 events:947 erro
[03:30] <^k^> ─> rs:0 TX bytes:6999 acl:0 sco:0 commands:770 errors:0 Features: 0xff 0xff 0xff 0xfe 0xdb 0xff 0x7b 0x87 Packet type: D …
[03:31] <O0XX> 苹果真是赞! http://www.solidot.org/story?sid=43648
[03:31] <^k^> ⇪ ti: Solidot | 苹果继续信任CNNIC的根证书
[03:48] <codecooker> #iphonedev
[03:52] <root> hello everyone
[03:52] <Guest8099> 大家好啊
[03:52] <^k^> Guest8099:点点点. 11:52
[03:52] <Guest8099> 我是jackness
[03:53] <MeiZhanGuoRen> http://picpaste.com/scrot-IYQJem8j.png 这钓鱼邮件发的还挺用心
[03:58] <freeflying> O0XX: 北京社保网站真得太烂了，这些人确实该杀头
[03:58] <O0XX> freeflying: 不错了
[03:58] <O0XX> freeflying: 能有个网站用就不错了
[03:58] <O0XX> freeflying: 衙门的话, 还能怎么要求他们..
[03:58] <MeiZhanGuoRen> 对啊
[03:59] <MeiZhanGuoRen> freeflying: 不开心了给你连网站都关了，以后要查去衙门排队
[04:00] <Guest8099> 你们有人成功独立完成网站的架设吗？
[04:07] <iotouch> Guest8099 yep
[04:07] <iotouch> 我干这个，好多年了
[04:08] <iotouch> 你想干嘛
[04:27] <sennn> 香港美女主播梁静雯烧炭身亡.
[04:30] <sennn> 极端组织IS黑客技术不容小觑
[04:31] <sennn> 汉堡起源于中国肉夹馍
[04:31] <palomino|working> 我总觉得这个命名方式很不合理
[04:31] <palomino|working> 肉夹馍应该是两块肉饼中间夹个馍才对!
[04:31] <MeiZhanGuoRen> palomino|working: 文言语法
[04:32] <MeiZhanGuoRen> palomino|working: 肉夹于馍的意思
[04:32] <freeflying> palomino|working: 馍夹肉
[04:32] <sennn> MeiZhanGuoRen, 正解
[04:32] <palomino|working> 两块肉饼夹一个馍我会更欢迎..
[04:33] <sennn> ^_^
[04:33] <MeiZhanGuoRen> 那怎么吃啊
[04:33] <palomino|working> 现在牙不行了,咬馍有点吃力 :-(
[04:33] <palomino|working> 没事儿,只要不怕弄脏手...
[04:35] <MeiZhanGuoRen> 对啊
[04:36] <freeflying> palomino|working: 马总您平时吃得太精细了
[04:36] <MeiZhanGuoRen> ....
[04:36] <palomino|working> T_T
[04:36] <palomino|working> 我好像又被nvidia给日了
[04:36] <MeiZhanGuoRen> 老吃细料跑不快
[04:36] <palomino|working> 980ti比titan x性能高..
[04:36] <palomino|working> 还便宜将近一半
[04:37] <MeiZhanGuoRen> nvidia 是谁？ +1 了？
[04:37] <sennn> 伦敦珠宝街保险库2亿英镑珠宝被洗劫
[04:39] <palomino|working> The Bank Job
[04:40] <sennn> 普京险些遇刺
[04:40] <palomino|working> ?_?
[04:40] <palomino|working> 普京最近吃鱼了?
[04:40] * O0XX momo palomino|working
[04:40] * palomino|working momo O0XX
[04:42] <sennn> 年轻人敢骂国家不敢骂领导
[04:43] <sennn> 见领导点头哈腰
[04:45] <^k^> 新 软件推荐 • 如意软件重打包 http://forum.ubuntu.org.cn/viewtopic.php?t=469404 http://forum.ubuntu.org.cn/search.php?search_id=egosearch 在Ubuntu14.04上安装如意软件，提示软件包质量不严谨，因此重新打了一下包。 如意软件是一款实用的linux软件，以GPL3.0版权发布，起初用于工程设计计算书的辅助编写，如今
[04:45] <^k^> ─> 已经成为一个小软件平台——它可以让你的文本计算书整理成小软件，很神奇不是？ zz: …
[04:48] <onlylove__> O0XX: 水果要在天朝做生意，有些事就那样，moz不是商业机构，g记你懂得
[04:49] <sennn> linux步入4.0时代
[04:50] <HowIsItGoing> MeiZhanGuoRen: 美斩过人？
[04:53] <jusss> HowIsItGoing: 美斩国人
[04:53] <Z^C> 困
[04:53] <jusss> 困
[04:53] <Z^C> 吃过饭好想睡
[04:53] <jusss> 同上
[04:54] <Z^C> 还不能睡
[04:54] <Z^C> 老板看着
[04:54] <Z^C> 最关键是还没事做
[04:54] <Z^C> 特么的
[04:54] <O0XX> Z^C: 没事做就睡
[04:54] <O0XX> Z^C: 谁怕谁
[04:54] <Z^C> 老板不让
[04:54] <Z^C> 会炒鱿鱼的
[04:55] <sennn> 睁眼睡
[04:55] <Z^C> 上海人就这样
[04:55] <Z^C> 闭眼就着
[04:56] <sennn> 美国是人间地狱,中国就是人间炼狱
[04:56] <Z^C> http://game.21cn.com/news/a/2015/0410/12/29370580.shtml
[04:56] <^k^> Z^C: ⇪ 中国城市60强出炉 两市超一线广州仅为一线城市 _ 新闻聚焦 _21CN游戏频道_最具影响力的游戏媒体
[04:57] <Z^C> 为毛没有香港澳门
[04:57] <Z^C> 台湾也没有
[04:57] <sennn> 中国城市,注意措辞
[04:58] <Z^C> 台湾不是中国的嘛
[04:58] <Z^C> 香港澳门不也是么
[04:58] <sennn> 理论上是,但是......
[04:58] <sennn> 你懂的
[05:00] <Z^C> http://world.newssc.org/system/20150410/000554015_4.html
[05:00] <^k^> ⇪ ti: 揭秘人类首例换头手术 脑袋切下来换具身体(图) -国际频道-四川新闻网无标题文档
[05:00] <sennn> 中没关系,就是逼与屌的关系
[05:00] <sennn> 中美关系
[05:00] <Z^C> 差不多
[05:01] <Guest8099> 中美日夜颠倒 天生的对手和伙伴
[05:04] <Z^C> http://baike.baidu.com/link?url=6xdVU3pcOCkVBW_JlirrZDzWtnsb9oxHJ39G2-gwZLCLMGchSIsPhiXovWXqsAplB2z9ypQT8znhZmeUHucSwDc6IR6uPGPxBOVNuHOO2aNWswW5y-uqZy8pi1ur-2sb
[05:04] <^k^> ⇪ ti: 一刀毙命法_百度百科
[05:05] <Guest8099> 太阳花学运大家知道吗？
[05:06] <sennn> 我们只知道六四
[05:06] <Guest8099> 额。。。
[05:06] <Guest8099> 不能谈六四吧
[05:06] <Guest8099> 很敏感的啊
[05:07] <sennn> 六+四==十,十全十美啊!!!
[05:07] <Guest8099> 好吧
[05:07] <Guest8099> 好解释
[05:08] <jusss> Guest8099: 你有太阳花女王圆角视频/
[05:08] <jusss> ？
[05:08] <Guest8099> 什么意思
[05:08] <Guest8099> 太阳花圆角视频？
[05:08] <Guest8099> 没有啊
[05:11] <sennn> 中华宇宙帝国!!!
[05:12] <onlylove_> MeiZhanGuoRen: 你看大象的新NICK
[05:13] <O0XX> onlylove_: 大象啥nick?
[05:13] <onlylove_> O0XX: 往上看OP
[05:15] <sennn> 共产主义==自由民主
[05:15] <FuJianRen> PuTongFa: http://www.douban.com/photos/album/130728507/
[05:15] <^k^> FuJianRen: ⇪ 吕震生的相册-名侦探柯南 凶手联盟
[05:16] <sennn> 哈哈
[05:16] <PuTongFa> HuJianRen: ... ...
[05:16] <HuJianRen> freeflying: 阿里巴巴表示将加入 ARM 架构开发开源软体协作组织 Linaro，并且成为 Linaro 企业小组成员 (Linaro Enterprise Group, LEG)，期望能协助带动优化 ARMv8-A 软体平台，进而降低资料中心整体建置成本！
[05:16] <HuJianRen> freeflying: 你发了啊!
[05:16] <HuJianRen> freeflying: 厉害!
[05:17] <sennn> 阿里巴巴一夜回到解放前的节奏啊!
[05:19] <Guest8099> 额。。。阿里巴巴不是最棒的互联网公司吗？
[05:19] <Guest8099> 互联网金融啊
[05:19] <QiongMangHuo> MeiZhanGuoRen: 这nick看不懂啊
[05:20] <HuJianRen> QiongMangHuo: 美斩国人
[05:20] <PuTongFa> QiongMangHuo: 没斩过人
[05:20] <QiongMangHuo> 说瞎话的该kick
[05:20] <PuTongFa> QiongMangHuo: 这哦度看不懂.
[05:20] <PuTongFa> 破输入法!
[05:20] <QiongMangHuo> PuTongFa: 好好说话 别卖萌
[05:20] <PuTongFa> QiongMangHuo: 石猴
[05:23] <HuJianRen> 这个有点屌啊! https://letsencrypt.org/
[05:23] <^k^> ⇪ ti: Let's Encrypt
[05:25] <sennn> 马云结婚了吗?
[05:25] <palomino|working> 儿子都老大了
[05:26] <sennn> 从来没见过他媳妇
[05:26] <sennn> 的说
[05:26] <palomino|working> 我觉得能钓上马公子也行
[05:26] <palomino|working> 不一定非得钓马云本人
[05:27] <sennn> 钓王思聪不更好,至少知道长啥样!
[05:27] <palomino|working> 王公子不好对付啊
[05:27] <palomino|working> 马公子还小
[05:28] <sennn> 马公子长啥样?
[05:28] <palomino|working> 再说...王公子好像只跟林更新搞基?_?
[05:28] <palomino|working> 不知道.不过你可以参考马云...
[05:28] <QiongMangHuo> onlylove_: http://digi.163.com/15/0410/06/AMQQ99N900162OUT.html 无冲
[05:28] <sennn> 哈哈
[05:28] <^k^> QiongMangHuo: ⇪ 1ms樱桃MX-BOARD 6.0键盘后天国内发布_网易数码
[05:28] <PuTongFa> 无冲没用啊...
[05:28] <palomino|working> 1ms的意思是?
[05:28] <PuTongFa> palomino|working: 延迟.
[05:28] <palomino|working> o...
[05:29] <PuTongFa> palomino|working: 按下去到触发被识别
[05:29] <PuTongFa> palomino|working: 我猜的
[05:29] <QiongMangHuo> PuTongFa: 没 上次他一直在扯 我就跟他说下而已
[05:29] <palomino|working> 该技术采用了与传统数字扫描不同的按键信号阅读方式，每个键单独连接到控制器，独立的导轨有不同的电压，将键盘的响应时间从平均 20ms 的时间缩减到了 1ms。
[05:29] <sennn> 王思聪日狗是怎么回事?
[05:29] <PuTongFa> QiongMangHuo: 昂.
[05:30] <palomino|working> 王思聪把他家狗按床上拍了一张
[05:30] <sennn> 哦,很深奥
[05:30] <palomino|working> 但据围观群众表示
[05:30] <onlylove_> QiongMangHuo: 果然是每个按键一个信号，不过为啥系统还是windows啊
[05:30] <QiongMangHuo> onlylove_: 啥
[05:31] <palomino|working> 看体位是观音坐莲...
[05:31] <Guest8099> 额。。。。
[05:31] <onlylove_> QiongMangHuo: 在系统支持方面，MX Board 6.0 可以支持 Windows 7，Windows Vista 以及Windows XP 系统。
[05:31] <sennn> 哈哈哈
[05:31] <onlylove_> palomino|working: 土豪马在发啥
[05:31] <palomino|working> 我什么也没发啊..
[05:31] <QiongMangHuo> onlylove_: 你指望163提及Linux?
[05:31] <palomino|working> 只是在胡侃
[05:31] <Guest8099> 你们都是在私聊吗？
[05:31] <onlylove_> QiongMangHuo: 不不不，没有8
[05:31] <palomino|working> 显然是在公聊
[05:31] <onlylove_> QiongMangHuo: 你没发现么
[05:32] <Guest8099> 哦 好吧 但是感觉没人理我啊
[05:32] <onlylove_> QiongMangHuo: 而且没有水果
[05:32] <QiongMangHuo> onlylove_: 从没注意过这些东西
[05:32] <Guest8099> 我现在想买一个国外的VPS服务器
[05:32] <Guest8099> 但是没有美金
[05:32] <QiongMangHuo> onlylove_: 我不关心 仅仅跟你说一下而已
[05:32] <onlylove_> QiongMangHuo: 好吧
[05:32] <Guest8099> 谁能帮我吗？
[05:32] <onlylove_> 淘宝
[05:32] <sennn> Guest8099, 用amazon吧
[05:32] <onlylove_> Guest8099: 淘宝
[05:32] <yunfan> Guest8099: 有虚拟信用卡 你去申请个
[05:33] <QiongMangHuo> Guest8099: paypal支持银联借记卡
[05:33] <onlylove_> yunfan: 淘宝很多代买的
[05:33] <Guest8099> 我用人民币转账
[05:33] <Guest8099> 淘宝有很多代买的吗
[05:33] <yunfan> onlylove_: 我说的是真正的信用卡号码呢 工行有这种
[05:33] <Guest8099> 我的信用卡都被我老妈停掉了
[05:33] <yunfan> 不能透支 只能先充值后用
[05:33] <yunfan> Guest8099: 你多大了 居然备你老妈控制
[05:34] <sennn> 厉害啊
[05:34] <Guest8099> 我虽然30岁了
[05:34] <sennn> 我信用卡都被我刷爆了
[05:34] <Guest8099> 但是最近我老妈对我封锁经济了
[05:34] <palomino|working> ...
[05:34] <yunfan> 前途不大
[05:34] <Guest8099> 我哭死了
[05:34] <sennn> 我总共才2000额度
[05:34] <sennn> 哈哈
[05:34] <Guest8099> 只有储蓄卡 没有信用卡
[05:35] <onlylove_> Guest8099: http://ubuntuchina.taobao.com/
[05:35] <Guest8099> 搞不到美国的服务器了
[05:35] <^k^> ⇪ ti: 首页-ubuntu中文商店-淘宝网 pp: 价格
[05:35] <yunfan> 信用卡还有2000额度的 ？
[05:35] <sennn> 我的就是啊
[05:35] <Guest8099> 现在就搞个阿里云的国内服务器玩玩shell编程
[05:35] <yunfan> Guest8099: 再办个就是了 多大的事呢
[05:35] <onlylove_> yunfan: 二代那个不是3000么
[05:35] <yunfan> 你既然有人民币 还怕不能弄到信用卡？
[05:36] <yunfan> 我就是广发的双币卡
[05:36] <yunfan> 用人民币还美元的
[05:36] <Guest8099> 我去了趟交通银行 人家说我有不良记录 有过欠款
[05:36] <palomino|working> ....
[05:36] <yunfan> onlylove_: 我实在想不到透支3000有啥意思
[05:36] <Guest8099> 所以可能办不下来了
[05:36] <yunfan> Guest8099: 你是广东的还是香港的
[05:36] <sennn> 我有瑞士银行户头,你们信吗?
[05:36] <Guest8099> 额。。。。我是镇江人
[05:36] <Guest8099> 我在镇江
[05:37] <Guest8099> 江苏省镇江市丹徒区宝堰镇渡头路217号
[05:37] <yunfan> 那就去别的银行看看 总有业务员想拉业务的
[05:37] <Guest8099> 我家的地址
[05:37] <sennn> 这都透露....
[05:37] <yunfan> 你都30了还待家里搞什么
[05:37] <yunfan> sennn: 不一定是真的
[05:37] <sennn> 哈哈哈也是
[05:37] <Guest8099> 我准备过两天去工商银行碰运气
[05:38] <Guest8099> 我爸妈不让我上班
[05:38] <sennn> 我的瑞士银行户头和大家分享
[05:38] <HuJianRen> sennn: 密码发过来
[05:38] <yunfan> 你爸妈要你安心在家里做富二代 ？
[05:38] <Guest8099> 说我天天学什么架设网站怕我为了赚钱架设黄色网站
[05:38] <sennn> 只发 contract number
[05:38] <onlylove__> Guest8099: 爸妈不让上班？你准备继承家里产业？
[05:38] <palomino|working> ...
[05:38] <HuJianRen> Guest8099: 那他们不怕你在家果聊?
[05:39] <yunfan> 你都30岁了 再不搞黄网以后洞房还要请人不成 ？
[05:39] <HuJianRen> Guest8099: 应该给你断网
[05:39] <yunfan> 到时候一定要记得请我
[05:39] <Guest8099> 我家其实也没 主要我前段时间肠胃不好 一直要吃胃药
[05:39] <sennn> 我的瑞银户头: UBS Contract number:320001
[05:39] <onlylove__> 13岁我倒是信
[05:39] <Guest8099> 所以家里面找个理由彻底封锁我
[05:40] <Guest8099> 还有问题就是
[05:40] <Guest8099> 我翻墙的事情家里人一直很怕
[05:40] <Guest8099> 说我是反革命
[05:40] <Guest8099> 怕我被抓起来
[05:40] <sennn> 哈哈
[05:40] * QiongMangHuo 我妈让我给她翻墙...
[05:41] <yunfan> 你听他扯淡呢
[05:41] * QiongMangHuo 要求我
[05:41] <yunfan> 人家就豆你玩呢
[05:41] <Guest8099> 额。。。
[05:41] <Guest8099> 你妈妈让你帮着翻墙？
[05:41] <onlylove_> QiongMangHuo: 为啥
[05:41] <Guest8099> 我我说得都是实话哦
[05:41] <onlylove_> Guest8099: 太假了
[05:41] <yunfan> QiongMangHuo: 你妈妈要翻墙追丁日的新闻 ？
[05:41] <Guest8099> 我现在天天被我妈妈关在家里面
[05:42] <HuJianRen> Guest8099: 那你结婚了么?
[05:42] <QiongMangHuo> onlylove_: 她要看维基和Google上的近代史 文革什么的
[05:42] <Guest8099> onlylove 我完全没有骗你
[05:42] <onlylove_> Guest8099: 你妈没给你弄个妹子和你关一起？
[05:42] <Guest8099> 没结婚呢
[05:42] <HuJianRen> Guest8099: 结婚了的话, 有网有摄像头一样可以支付的
[05:42] <Guest8099> 额。。。没有妹子
[05:42] <HuJianRen> Guest8099: 不用出门
[05:42] <yunfan> 你怎么不说备关再笼子里呢
[05:42] <onlylove_> QiongMangHuo: 你妈应该经历过文革吧？
[05:42] <HuJianRen> Guest8099: 致富
[05:42] <sennn> 给你我的瑞士银行户头,拿去用不客气
[05:42] <QiongMangHuo> onlylove_: 小时候
[05:43] * QiongMangHuo 家仇国恨
[05:43] <yunfan> QiongMangHuo: 你妈自己不就经历过文革嘛 干嘛还要翻墙看
[05:43] <Guest8099> 额。。。你还有瑞士银行户口啊
[05:43] <onlylove_> QiongMangHuo: 那些事情，不看也罢
[05:43] <Guest8099> sennn 借给我用用啊
[05:43] <onlylove_> QiongMangHuo: 知道的多了反而闹心
[05:43] <sennn> 登录瑞银瑞士官网,登录
[05:44] <Guest8099> 我准备去digitalocean买一个支持worldpress的vps服务器
[05:44] <sennn> 瑞士官网
[05:44] <Guest8099> 你说的真的吗 sennn
[05:44] <sennn> 你自己百度官网
[05:44] <sennn> 进去看看
[05:45] <Guest8099> 进了官网了
[05:45] <Guest8099> 然后呢？
[05:46] <onlylove> Guest73839: 毛worldpress，直接就说支持php就好
[05:46] <Guest8099> 我想自己架设vpn然后去卖钱
[05:46] <HuJianRen> sennn: 密码
[05:46] <sennn> 我发链接
[05:46] <Guest8099> 发什么链接
[05:46] <HuJianRen> sennn: 给我个口令卡的密码
[05:46] <HuJianRen> sennn: 反正一次性的
[05:46] <HuJianRen> sennn: 我验证一下
[05:47] <sennn> https://ebanking-ch2.ubs.com/workbench/Index.do?login&locale=en-CH&NavLB_EBCH=1428644825
[05:48] <Guest8099> 你们认识周曙光吗？就是左拉
[05:48] <HuJianRen> sennn: input: 746470
[05:48] <sennn> 这是官网
[05:48] <HuJianRen> sennn: 密码发来
[05:48] <sennn> 什么是746470啊?
[05:48] <Guest8099> https://ebanking-ch2.ubs.com/workbench/Index.do?login&locale=en-CH&NavLB_EBCH=1428644825https://ebanking-ch2.ubs.com/workbench/Index.do?login&locale=en-CH&NavLB_EBCH=1428644825
[05:48] <HuJianRen> sennn: access card..
[05:48] <sennn> 不对
[05:49] <sennn> 打开我给的网址
[05:49] <HuJianRen> sennn: 你没走过access card login
[05:49] <sennn> 在 contract number里输入320001
[05:49] <Guest8099> 要contract number的啊
[05:49] <sennn> 是啊
[05:49] * HuJianRen 哎, 我也真是闲的蛋疼...
[05:49] * HuJianRen 三上去了
[05:50] <Guest8099> 还要code
[05:50] <Guest8099> code是什么啊
[05:50] <sennn> 进去了吗?
[05:50] <Guest8099> 要code
[05:50] <^k^> sennn: define:746470啊? not defined.
[05:51] <sennn> 是啊,当然,
[05:51] <sennn> 要密码才能登录的
[05:51] <Guest8099> 密码是多少啊？
[05:51] <Guest8099> 你准备让我使用一次 买个vps服务器吗
[05:52] <sennn> 我只能帮你到这了
[05:52] <Guest8099> 据说一个月才1美金
[05:52] <Guest8099> 那我还是没有信用卡啊
[05:52] <Guest8099> 没有办法美金结算啊
[05:53] <QiongMangHuo> Guest8099: 说了, paypal支持银联借记卡!
[05:53] <sennn> HuJianRen, 你给的账户名不对
[05:53] <sennn> 输个屌啊
[05:53] <sennn> 输入
[05:53] * HuJianRen 呵呵
[05:54] <Guest8099> 银联借记卡是储蓄卡吗？
[05:54] <sennn> HuJianRen, 呵呵呵呵
[05:54] <QiongMangHuo> Guest8099: 对
[05:54] <Guest8099> 穷忙活 那我可以到digitalocean买到vps服务器吗 上次我登录时候说要我绑定信用卡的啊
[05:54] <sennn> HuJianRen, 及有本事给个对的
[05:54] <sennn> 你
[05:55] <HuJianRen> sennn: 我输了
[05:55] <HuJianRen> sennn: 你赢了
[05:55] <sennn> HuJianRen, 什么意思?
[05:55] <yunfan> Guest8099: 如果你只是要壮个wordpress 可以godaddy 这个支持支付宝
[05:55] <Guest8099> 穷忙活 告诉我个支持借记卡的买vps的网址啊
[05:55] <QiongMangHuo> Guest8099: digitalocean支持paypal
[05:56] <Guest8099> 哦 这样啊
[05:56] <Guest8099> 谢谢你们帮我
[05:56] <Guest8099> 我先试试看
[05:56] <Guest8099> 我现在荷包里面没有多少钱了
[05:57] <Guest8099> 我想架设一个属于自己的网站和自己vpn
[05:57] <sennn> Guest8099, 你用windows吗?
[05:58] <Guest8099> 我现在是windows7加vmware
[05:58] <Guest8099> 加putty
[05:58] <yunfan> QiongMangHuo: 帮我找个做水军赚钱的地方 我要利用闲暇时间
[05:58] <jusss> freeflying: 你在阿里？
[05:58] <Guest8099> 四个系统开启
[05:58] <QiongMangHuo> yunfan: 母鸡
[05:58] <jusss> QiongMangHuo: 侯总在阿里？
[05:58] <QiongMangHuo> jusss: 不在
[05:58] <yunfan> QiongMangHuo: 你这皮条拉得可真不专业
[05:58] <Guest8099> 我在阿里云
[05:59] <Guest8099> 20块钱一个月
[05:59] <Guest8099> 1M带宽
[05:59] <QiongMangHuo> yunfan: 你帮我找个上网就能一天赚一万的地方 我要利用闲暇时间
[05:59] <Guest8099> ECS花了1块钱
[06:01] <QiongMangHuo> HowIsItGoing: 昨天日本发出的EMS, 周一我能收到么?
[06:01] <huntxu> QiongMangHuo: 可以
[06:01] <PuTongFa> QiongMangHuo: 你买啥了?
[06:01] <QiongMangHuo> huntxu: 赞
[06:01] <HuJianRen> QiongMangHuo: 可以
[06:01] <PuTongFa> QiongMangHuo: 都开始日淘了?
[06:01] <QiongMangHuo> PuTongFa: 没买啥
[06:01] <HowIsItGoing> QiongMangHuo: 我在帝都3天收到过
[06:02] <freeflying> QiongMangHuo: 又买啥了
[06:02] <HuJianRen> freeflying: 日本盛产啥?
[06:02] * QiongMangHuo 卧槽, 一下子钓出来一堆土壕
[06:02] <PuTongFa> QiongMangHuo: 买了又不肯说, 肯定是从日本买了羞羞的东西
[06:02] <HuJianRen> PuTongFa: you got it
[06:02] <QiongMangHuo> PuTongFa: 别人给我发的文件
[06:02] <HowIsItGoing> QiongMangHuo: 明天去哪耍？
[06:02] <PuTongFa> QiongMangHuo: 哦, "文件"啊
[06:02] <HowIsItGoing> freeflying: 明天去哪耍？
[06:02] <QiongMangHuo> HowIsItGoing: 妙峰山?
[06:02] <HuJianRen> QiongMangHuo: 你要去啊? 别啊, 毕老师刚出事
[06:03] <HuJianRen> QiongMangHuo: 你等等
[06:03] * HowIsItGoing 明天盛京下雨，不知道去哪玩儿了
[06:03] <HuJianRen> QiongMangHuo: 我为你好
[06:03] <freeflying> HowIsItGoing: 云蒙山
[06:03] <HuJianRen> HowIsItGoing: 在家打孩子
[06:03] <HowIsItGoing> HuJianRen: 木有孩子
[06:03] <HuJianRen> HowIsItGoing: 下雨天打孩子
[06:03] <QiongMangHuo> freeflying: 云蒙山很好, 清明的时候山上还都是冰
[06:03] <HowIsItGoing> freeflying: 树绿了吗？
[06:04] <HowIsItGoing> QiongMangHuo: 帝都小黄山的名气不是盖的
[06:04] <freeflying> HowIsItGoing: 不知道呢
[06:04] <HuJianRen> freeflying: 去雾灵山
[06:04] <HowIsItGoing> freeflying: 感觉够呛
[06:04] <freeflying> HowIsItGoing: 主要我儿子要去
[06:04] <QiongMangHuo> HowIsItGoing: 可惜我们爬的野路
[06:04] <Guest8099> 你们真有钱啊
[06:04] <Guest8099> 到处旅游
[06:04] <HowIsItGoing> freeflying: 乃娃还知道云蒙山了，啧啧
[06:04] <freeflying> HuJianRen: 雾灵山难度系数太高，不适合小孩
[06:04] <Guest8099> 我连一个vps服务器都买不起
[06:04] <QiongMangHuo> freeflying: 那灵山吧
[06:04] <freeflying> HowIsItGoing: 带他去过一次了
[06:04] <HuJianRen> freeflying: 带孩子的话...香山吧...
[06:05] <freeflying> HuJianRen: 我们这边有更合适得，只是他点名要去云蒙山
[06:05] <HowIsItGoing> QiongMangHuo: 我去云蒙山还是帽帽team building，爬到山上没水了，擦
[06:05] <QiongMangHuo> freeflying: 灵山清明的时候山上有暴风雪............ 别人发的照片我都傻了
[06:05] <freeflying> HuJianRen: 香山周末不适合上去
[06:05] * HuJianRen 好吧, 我貌似没去过 云蒙山...
[06:05] <freeflying> QiongMangHuo: 这两天波士顿不是在下雪呢嘛
[06:05] <HuJianRen> freeflying: 离你近
[06:06] <HuJianRen> freeflying: 不错
[06:06] <freeflying> HuJianRen: 我这边的五彩浅山其实很好
[06:06] <QiongMangHuo> freeflying: HowIsItGoing 等我给你找图片
[06:07] <QiongMangHuo> freeflying: HowIsItGoing PuTongFa HuJianRen https://www.dropbox.com/s/cq7166yzcnou4n7/mmexport1428645951182.jpg?dl=0 https://www.dropbox.com/s/0jxx2yjaz1zaupb/mmexport1428645957855.jpg?dl=0
[06:07] <QiongMangHuo> 清明第一天灵山顶峰是这样的...
[06:08] <HuJianRen> QiongMangHuo: 后面这树挺别致的
[06:08] <freeflying> 你们明天谁要去云蒙山的，我可以捎上一个
[06:08] <MeiZhanGuoRen> QiongMangHuo: 早
[06:08] <MeiZhanGuoRen> 明天有雨啊
[06:09] <QiongMangHuo> freeflying: 刚去过 就不去了
[06:09] <QiongMangHuo> freeflying: 雁栖湖在去云蒙山的路上 也可以逛逛
[06:09] <HuJianRen> QiongMangHuo: 壕!
[06:09] <HuJianRen> QiongMangHuo: 你是apec的石猴刚去过吧?
[06:10] <QiongMangHuo> HuJianRen: 清明的时候路过而已
[06:10] <QiongMangHuo> freeflying: 昨天补了一点, 刚刚卖了
[06:11] <QiongMangHuo> freeflying: 今天收盘估计在5%左右 (我猜
[06:11] <QiongMangHuo> freeflying: 只卖了补的那一点点
[06:12] <HuJianRen> QiongMangHuo: 股神!
[06:12] <QiongMangHuo> HuJianRen: 石猴
[06:13] <freeflying> QiongMangHuo: 我前天13块多时补了点
[06:13] <freeflying> QiongMangHuo: 今天还没看，随他去
[06:14] <QiongMangHuo> freeflying: 13.54现在
[06:14] <QiongMangHuo> freeflying: 股神
[06:14] <freeflying> QiongMangHuo: 我貌似是13.60补的
[06:15] <HuJianRen> freeflying: 股神
[06:19] <HowIsItGoing> freeflying: 股神
[06:19] <HowIsItGoing> QiongMangHuo: 股神
[06:20] <sennn> 炒股都得折本
[06:20] <HuJianRen> sennn: zan
[06:22] <HuJianRen> PuTongFa: 赶紧的
[06:24] <freeflying> QiongMangHuo: 以后不在这里聊股票
[06:24] <QiongMangHuo> freeflying: 我错了, 其实跟哪都不该聊啊, 影响判断
[06:25] <freeflying> QiongMangHuo: 微信或者telegram
[06:26] <sennn> 股票跟彩票一样一样的
[06:26] <HuJianRen> sennn: 也2块钱一注?
[06:26] <sennn> 类比
[06:30] <jusss> QiongMangHuo: 为什么bash没有goto?
[06:30] <QiongMangHuo> jusss: 为啥要有...
[06:31] <jusss> QiongMangHuo: goto可以代替循环for while until
[06:31] <jusss> QiongMangHuo: if和goto就可以了
[06:31] <HuJianRen> QiongMangHuo: code.google.com上不了怎么办?
[06:31] <QiongMangHuo> jusss: 当然是, 因为循环基于goto...
[06:31] <alvin_rxg> Title: Google Code (@ code.google.com)
[06:31] <QiongMangHuo> HuJianRen: 翻墙啊
[06:32] <jusss> QiongMangHuo: 不会吧? 不提供goto，但是for while until什么的都基于goto ?
[06:32] <jusss> 这么坑跌？
[06:32] * HuJianRen 尼玛, 为了下个破包, git bzr hg装了一个遍...
[06:33] <HowIsItGoing> QiongMangHuo: 你有telegram？
[06:33] <QiongMangHuo> HuJianRen: 这啊, 找可用ip吧...
[06:33] <QiongMangHuo> HowIsItGoing: 必须没有
[06:33] <jusss> python也没goto
[06:33] <QiongMangHuo> HuJianRen: go get 遇到google code就瞎了
[06:33] <jusss> goto写循环，最好了
[06:35] <HuJianRen> QiongMangHuo: 搞定了
[06:35] <HuJianRen> QiongMangHuo: C家真是zhazha
[06:35] <QiongMangHuo> cc joey
[06:38] <Z^C> 好困
[06:38] <Z^C> 无聊，不敢聊qq 还是这个东西好 容易隐藏
[06:40] <^k^> 暂无新帖 讲个笑话吧: http://i2.xiaohua.fd.zol-img.com.cn/t_s600x5000/g3/M0A/00/08/Cg-4WFI2qZaIGYwkAABAxlmGzUsAALrFgDUc_4AAEDe802.jpg 恐怖版美人鱼
[06:41] <HowIsItGoing> freeflying: 卧槽，盛京这破地方太搓了，我想装新风，结果打了两天电话，连经销商都没找见
[06:46] <HuJianRen> HowIsItGoing: 买空气净化器吧
[06:46] <root____7> 大家好啊
[06:46] <^k^> root____7:点点点. 14:46
[06:46] <HuJianRen> HowIsItGoing: 装新风要吊顶的
[06:46] <root____7> 我又回来了
[06:46] <root____7> 我是jackness
[06:46] <HuJianRen> HowIsItGoing: 你打算装修房子了?
[06:47] <HowIsItGoing> HuJianRen: 那玩意效率低啊
[06:47] <root____7> 我买了一个digitalocean的服务器
[06:47] <HowIsItGoing> HuJianRen: 是啊
[06:47] <root____7> 才5美金
[06:47] <HuJianRen> HowIsItGoing: 装修的话, 可以考虑搞一个
[06:47] <HuJianRen> HowIsItGoing: 我不打算搞了
[06:47] <HuJianRen> HowIsItGoing: 买个空气净化器算了
[06:48] <HowIsItGoing> HuJianRen: 我感觉这玩意以后得是标配。环境污染问题太严重了
[06:49] <HuJianRen> HowIsItGoing: 还好吧...清洗起来是个麻烦事
[06:49] <HuJianRen> HowIsItGoing: 而且总要出门...
[06:49] <HowIsItGoing> HuJianRen: 基本不要清洗啊，半年一年换一次滤网就行，管道不用洗的吧？
[06:49] <HuJianRen> HowIsItGoing: 据说要洗
[06:49] <Z^C> 盛京是哪里
[06:50] <HuJianRen> HowIsItGoing: 我之前研究了下, 据说还是要洗的
[06:50] <QiongMangHuo> Z^C: 日本 大阪附近
[06:50] <Z^C> 房子不便宜吧 壕
[06:51] <QiongMangHuo> Z^C: 逗你的, 是沈阳
[06:51] <HuJianRen> HowIsItGoing: 另外吊顶是个麻烦事
[06:51] <HowIsItGoing> HuJianRen: 吊顶还好吧
[06:52] <Z^C> 。。。
[06:52] <HuJianRen> HowIsItGoing: 你完全重装当然没问题
[06:52] <Z^C> 买精装房多好 省事
[06:52] <root____7> 都是有钱人啊
[06:52] <HowIsItGoing> HuJianRen: 二手房装吊顶也没压力啊，石膏板塞上去很简单
[06:52] <root____7> 还精装房
[06:53] <HuJianRen> HowIsItGoing: 我是想简单搞
[06:54] <Z^C> 我打算买精装的
[06:54] <Z^C> 你那个多少买的
[06:54] <HowIsItGoing> Z^C: 精装？ 呵呵
[06:54] <Z^C> 省事啊
[06:54] <Z^C> 装修很贵的
[06:54] <HowIsItGoing> HuJianRen: 要多简单？ 刷遍漆拉倒？
[06:55] <HuJianRen> HowIsItGoing: 那不至于... 石膏线, 刷墙, 厨房卫生间好好搞搞, 然后
[06:55] <HuJianRen> 换家居
[06:55] <Z^C> 好麻烦。。。
[06:55] <Z^C> 你多少钱买的
[06:56] <QiongMangHuo> HuJianRen: 羡慕...
[06:56] <gebjgd> HuJianRen, 胡贱人
[06:56] <HowIsItGoing> HuJianRen: 这里面石膏线换吊顶就行，可以不吊整个顶棚，搞一圈儿就好
[06:58] <Z^C> 今天更新mac系统，发现整个电脑都不好了
[06:58] <Z^C> 我也不好了
[07:00] <HuJianRen> HowIsItGoing: 盛京装新风大概啥价格?
[07:00] <gebjgd> Z^C, 用mac 必然不好
[07:00] <HowIsItGoing> HuJianRen: 施工完毕16k大概
[07:00] <Z^C> 我觉得mac挺方便的啊
[07:00] <HuJianRen> HowIsItGoing: 静电的还是滤网的?
[07:01] <HowIsItGoing> HuJianRen: 静电+滤网，霍尼韦尔
[07:01] <Z^C> gebjgd 推荐个好点的本子
[07:01] <HuJianRen> HowIsItGoing: 赞, 这个不错
[07:01] <gebjgd> Z^C, TP + Linux
[07:01] <Z^C> gebjgd 这个是笔记本？
[07:02] <gebjgd> Z^C, 没听说过thinkpad？
[07:02] <HuJianRen> HowIsItGoing: 你是买的新房?
[07:02] <jiero> Z^C: TP 是 thinkpad 缩写- - - -
[07:02] <^k^> 逛了一下论坛,暂时无新贴.
[07:02] <Z^C> 晕。。
[07:03] <jiero> gebjgd: 我用着 T510，但是Linux 下无线网卡不好用 -驱动太遭罪
[07:03] <gebjgd> jiero, t410s 无线刚刚的
[07:03] <gebjgd> jiero, 人品问题？
[07:03] <jiero> gebjgd: 远距离弱信号的时候总看不到玩网络了。
[07:04] <gebjgd> jiero, 刚刚的
[07:04] <jiero> gebjgd: 我手机和另一台笔记本都行。
[07:04] <gebjgd> jiero, 换路由器
[07:04] <jiero> gebjgd: 呃我想换个
[07:06] <root____7> 现如今什么样的路由器比较好啊
[07:06] <root____7> 我怕被人家蹭网
[07:07] <sennn> 小米路由
[07:07] <gebjgd> root____7, 关闭无线的路由器最好
[07:07] <root____7> 额。。。
[07:07] <root____7> 关闭了之后不方便啊
[07:08] <root____7> 一家那么多电子设备我家电脑2个手机4个还有互联网电视
[07:08] <root____7> 妹无线多不方便啊
[07:08] <Z^C> 手机好贵
[07:08] <Z^C> 买不起了
[07:08] <sennn> 599 小米2a
[07:09] <Z^C> w2015
[07:09] <Z^C> 三星
[07:09] <sennn> 谁买这个
[07:09] <Z^C> 。。
[07:10] <Z^C> 我觉得这个还不错
[07:10] <Sevk> 新 启动和引导 • win8和Ubuntu14.04双系统，扩展C盘后Ubuntu没有引导 http://forum.ubuntu.org.cn/viewtopic.php?t=469405 系统安装的是win8和Ubuntu14.04.两个都是64位的。前几天扩充了一下C盘后。无法启动系统。用WindowsPE更新了MBR。然后就是开机直接进入Windows，没有Ubuntu选项。 我系统安装的是先windows，后
[07:10] <Sevk> ─> Ubuntu。选择的是与Windows共存。晚上搜索用EasyBCD添加引导，选择的是grub2.也无法进入系统 …
[07:10] <hoxily> nokia 1050你值得拥有
[07:10] <sennn> 299 nokia
[07:10] <hoxily> http://detail.zol.com.cn/cell_phone/index347026.shtml
[07:10] <Sevk> hoxily: ⇪ 【诺基亚1050】报价_参数_图片_论坛_NOKIA 诺基亚 105诺基亚手机报价-ZOL中关村在线 pp: ￥150[北京 1GB以下行货]
[07:10] <sennn> 值得拥有
[07:10] <Z^C> 詹姆士也不错
[07:10] <Z^C> 可惜有些贵
[07:10] <Z^C> 黑莓的p9982
[07:10] <Z^C> 也不错
[07:10] <Z^C> 妈蛋
[07:11] <Z^C> 不错的太多了 就是买不起
[07:11] <sennn> 你净玩儿洋的
[07:11] <Z^C> HANMAC也不错的
[07:11] <Z^C> 人家做的真的很棒
[07:11] <gebjgd> Z^C, 最好的手机在天朝
[07:11] <sennn> 国产手机就不错了
[07:11] <Z^C> 比那些iphone好多了
[07:11] <sennn> 就是
[07:11] <sennn> 诅咒苹果
[07:11] <Z^C> iphone街机
[07:12] <Z^C> 我攒钱 以后买个诺基亚的新款
[07:12] <sennn> iphone拉机
[07:12] <sennn> 垃机
[07:12] <sennn> !!!
[07:12] <Z^C> 其实还是詹姆士的棒
[07:12] <Z^C> 就是略贵
[07:12] <sennn> 詹姆士是什么呀?
[07:13] <Z^C> 詹姆士是个品牌啊
[07:13] <Z^C> http://item.jd.com/1339209072.html
[07:13] <Sevk> Z^C: ⇪ 詹姆士（GEMRY）R12 玫瑰金 电信/联通4G手机【图片 价格 品牌 报价】-京东 pp: 19800.00
[07:13] <Z^C> 做工很棒
[07:13] <MeiZhanGuoRen> hoxily: 1050 成了彩色屏幕不开心
[07:14] <Z^C> 现在搞个手机也挺费劲的
[07:14] <sennn> 不是略贵,是很贵
[07:14] <hoxily> 现在还有黑白屏吗？
[07:14] <Sevk> sennn: define:詹姆士 not defined.
[07:14] <Z^C> 听说 保时捷和法拉利都出手机了
[07:15] <Z^C> 阿斯顿马丁的也不错
[07:15] <Z^C> 就是硬件挺坑
[07:17] <sennn> 你主要想要的是 私人助理服务吧?
[07:18] <HuJianRen> MeiZhanGuoRen: PuTongFa QiongMangHuo http://ww1.sinaimg.cn/bmiddle/7fd54a81tw1er0hridzamj20cs1fwn4a.jpg
[07:20] <HuJianRen> PuTongFa: http://ww3.sinaimg.cn/bmiddle/7bf06420jw1er0frwm8aqj20gq0azwgr.jpg
[07:27] <freeflying> QiongMangHuo: 6kg的哑铃现在只能10个一组了
[07:27] <QiongMangHuo> freeflying: 没玩过哑铃..
[07:28] <QiongMangHuo> freeflying: 那天爬上云蒙山, 大多数男的心跳110~120, 女的130~140, 我92
[07:28] <freeflying> QiongMangHuo: 🐂
[07:28] <HuJianRen> PuTongFa: 1.130
[07:28] <HuJianRen> QiongMangHuo: 牛
[07:29] <gfrog> HuJianRen: 新房啊
[07:29] <QiongMangHuo> freeflying: HuJianRen 面不改色心不跳啊
[07:29] <HuJianRen> QiongMangHuo: 确实, 面不改 色
[07:29] <QiongMangHuo> ...
[07:29] * HowIsItGoing 本想坐火车去集宁跑个圈儿，想想还是算了
[07:30] <QiongMangHuo> HuJianRen: 那天有好几个毛妹还有一个埃及的一个东欧的
[07:30] <HuJianRen> QiongMangHuo: 那肯定更面不改色了
[07:30] <QiongMangHuo> ...
[07:31] <MeiZhanGuoRen> HuJianRen: .. 赞， 云老王
[07:39] <root____7> 谁成功用vps安装配置vpn啊？
[07:43] <badegg> 问下，这里谁在github上面有项目
[07:43] <HuJianRen> badegg: github是什么?
[07:44] <badegg> 代码托管网站啊
[07:45] <badegg> 偌大的聊天室，没人有吗/
[07:45] <HuJianRen> badegg: 不知道啊
[07:46] <MeiZhanGuoRen> 百度没有搜出来，打开不开那个 github 啊
[07:47] * MeiZhanGuoRen 把写的东西托管给老板，丫爱存哪存哪
[07:47] <gebjgd> badegg, win好用么
[07:50] <iotouch> 定制不同的发行版有什么意义 嘛
[07:52] <gebjgd> iotouch, 因为愿意
[07:53] <Z^C> 无聊
[07:53] <Z^C> 坐等下班
[07:53] <iotouch> 有什么价值嘛？ 是不是在螛折腾
[07:54] <gebjgd> iotouch, 愿意就是价值
[07:54] <^k^> 新 线下活动专版 • 4月11日，Ubuntu开发者创新大赛落地培训(重庆站) http://forum.ubuntu.org.cn/viewtopic.php?t=469407 Ubuntu开发者创新大赛落地培训重庆站 时间： 4月11日（周六）13：30-17：40 地点： 重庆市沙坪坝区大学城重庆大学虎溪校区 d1131 活动报名地址： http://www.huodongxing.com/event/7276980401200
[07:55] <iotouch> 好难理解
[07:55] <gebjgd> iotouch, 你爸妈生你 是因为他们愿意
[07:55] <iotouch> gejgd 好吧，一语中的，除此之外，还有其它的嘛
[07:55] <gebjgd> iotouch, 一个道理
[07:56] <gebjgd> iotouch, 不要去理解别人为什么去做
[07:56] <gebjgd> iotouch, 考虑你会不会去做就够了
[07:58] <HuJianRen> PuTongFa: 阿婆watch可以定了啊
[07:58] <PuTongFa> HuJianRen: 多丑啊
[07:58] <PuTongFa> HuJianRen: http://item.taobao.com/item.htm?spm=a230r.1.14.1.VXu5Lc&id=36996808879&ns=1&abbucket=2#detail 这个, hp的手表
[07:58] <^k^> PuTongFa: ⇪ HP 惠普珍藏精表 手表 生活防水 正品盒装-淘宝网 pp: 37.00
[07:59] <HuJianRen> PuTongFa: 多丑啊
[07:59] <PuTongFa> HuJianRen: 继续?
[08:00] <PuTongFa> HuJianRen: 快建图
[08:00] <HuJianRen> PuTongFa: +
[08:01] <iotouch> 为何桌面IM可以很容易做到消息即时呈现，WEB端会这么难
[08:02] <FuNanRen> PuTongFa: hp 的表？ 不错唉
[08:02] <PuTongFa> FuNanRen: 挺好啊
[08:11] <Z^C> time
[08:12] <Z^C> test
[08:12] <^k^> Z^C:点点点. 16:12
[08:12] <Z^C> 还有一个半小时下班
[08:12] <Z^C> 无聊中
[08:12] <Z^C> 小k陪我聊天吧
[08:22] <QiongMangHuo> 谁要滴滴打车红包?
[08:23] <Z^C> x-art是啥
[08:23] <Z^C> 有知道的么
[08:24] <hoxily> 成人网站
[08:25] <hoxily> 影片截图上有这个水印
[08:26] <palomino|working> x-art...
[08:26] <QiongMangHuo> ...
[08:27] <Z^C> 我去
[08:27] <PuTongFa> ... ...
[08:27] <Z^C> 能看么
[08:28] <palomino|working> 为何不能看...
[08:28] <Z^C> 没网网址啊
[08:28] <palomino|working> 画面拍的很好
[08:28] <palomino|working> 网上到处有下载啊
[08:28] <Z^C> 在哪里看啊
[08:28] <Z^C> 百度么
[08:28] <palomino|working> rarbg.com
[08:28] <alvin_rxg> Title: Rarbg.com Rarbg Index page (@ rarbg.com)
[08:29] <Z^C> 欧式英文啊
[08:29] <Z^C> 都是英文啊
[08:31] <palomino|working> 左边有个XXX分类没看到么..
[08:31] <iotouch> 如何定制一个自己的发行版
[08:32] <q_> 普通用户的umask值一般设为多少啊？
[08:32] <QiongMangHuo> palomino|working: 老死机
[08:32] <QiongMangHuo> 022
[08:32] <q_> 谢谢。
[08:32] <q_> 那root用户的呢？
[08:32] <QiongMangHuo> 077
[08:32] <hoxily> 看 asian分类呀
[08:33] <QiongMangHuo> 不一定
[08:33] * palomino|working momo QiongMangHuo
[08:34] <Z^C> 懂了
[08:34] <Z^C> 秒懂
[08:35] <Z^C> 小k居然不知道么
[09:03] <FuNanRen> palomino|working: 1024
[09:04] <FuNanRen> hoxily: 1024
[09:06] <QiongMangHuo> 没人叫DongBeiYin么?
[09:18] <FuNanRen> 那 PuTongFa 应该叫 PuTongFaEr 了
[09:18] <sennn> 我要做资本家
[09:21] <HeLanRen> PuTongFa: 赶紧得
[09:21] <HeLanRen> PuTongFa: 再来两局回家
[09:21] <PuTongFa> HeLanRen: 你点 back to game
[09:21] <HeLanRen> PuTongFa: 我都退出了
[09:22] <PuTongFa> HeLanRen: 建图
[09:22] <HeLanRen> PuTongFa: +
[09:22] <PuTongFa> HeLanRen: reject了
[09:22] <PuTongFa> 等
[09:23] <HeLanRen> PuTongFa: Unknown section 'unknown'
[09:31] <HeLanRen> ...
[09:33] <^k^> 暂无新帖 讲个笑话吧: 我是中国人民 : 升旗仪式校长作思想报告:"....我就是中国人民的儿子."底下同学:"我是中国人民."
[09:39] <^k^> 新 系统安装和升级 • win7和ubuntu双系统 怎么将win7系统删除掉？ http://forum.ubuntu.org.cn/viewtopic.php?t=469408 之前是在win7下装的ubuntu，现在想只留ubuntu一个系统，可以只删除win7系统盘的东西而其他盘的东西不删除吗？求方法。。。。 zz: 小天才2015 — 2015-04-10 16:55
[09:39] <sennn> 美国不垮,中国难亡
[09:47] <sennn> 利益与金钱高于一切
[09:53] <^k^> 新 Ubuntu移动应用开发 • Ubuntu 手机的国际开发者社区 http://forum.ubuntu.org.cn/viewtopic.php?t=469410 Ubuntu 在国际开发者中相当受到欢迎，有许多开源社区参与讨论、开发以及贡献。如果您的英文读写能力够好，以下是相关的社区资源，可以查找到相当多关于 Ubuntu Phone 的开发材料。 Quote: * Ubunt
[09:53] <^k^> ─> u App Developers Google+ https://plus.google.com/communities/111 ... 0925540549 * Ubuntu 移动装置技术讨论 htt …
[10:07] <hoxily> aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
[10:08] <sennn> b
[10:08] <sennn> 拒绝刷屏
[10:16] <shengRendan> 多么霸气侧漏的名字啊
[10:16] <shengRendan> !
[10:47] <shengRendan> 人都哪兒去了?
[10:59] <jiero> cherrotluo, 。。。 难道出现了其他 cherrot？
[11:00] <cherrotluo> jiero, 断网了吧
[11:03] <jiero> cherrot, 好吧。还是无法消除自杀的念头啊。
[11:03] <^k^> 新 Ubuntu 14.04 LTS • 刚升级过后，全部USB不能使用！ http://forum.ubuntu.org.cn/viewtopic.php?t=469412 现在usb的鼠标都无法使用了，有人遇到了吗？ zz: jsfelixr — 2015-04-10 19:02
[11:03] * jiero kick jackness-
[12:25] <^k^> 取新帖 timeout
[12:41] <^k^> 暂无新帖 讲个笑话吧: 情未了 : 小强跟女朋友分手了,本想安慰他,他却很霸气地说:"天下之大势,分久必合,合久必分。女人都是狗！ "过了几天,发现他又跟女朋友好上了,问他啥情况?他说:"人狗情未了！ "我勒个去！
[12:56] <^k^> 新 Ubuntu 15.04 • 安装64位的15.04之后，32位的win7无法启动 http://forum.ubuntu.org.cn/viewtopic.php?t=469413 我原来是双系统：32位的14.10和32位的win7。最近重新安装了64位的15.04，现在无法进入win7。用ubuntu的U盘进入LiveCD，使用boot repair工具修复了半天，还是不行。请问有解决办法吗？ zz: himandy — 2015
[12:56] <^k^> ─> -04-10 20:54
[13:06] <kandu> jiero: 那就用安全的方式去体验下
[13:15] <jusss> kandu: 什么安全的方式
[13:17] <kandu> jusss: 蹦个极，跳个伞。有人看护的窒息体验
[13:19] <jusss`> test
[13:19] <^k^> jusss`:点点点. 21:19
[13:55] * jusss happy -marina & the diamonds
[13:55] <Guest4418> 晚上还有人上班的吗？
[13:57] <jiero> jusss, 我发现可能真是遗传因素呀。
[13:57] <jiero> jusss, 我发现我的阴处比大腿黑太多了。。。
[13:59] <jusss> “<jiero> jusss, 我发现可能真是遗传因素呀。<jiero> jusss, 我发现我的阴处比大腿黑太多了。。。”
[13:59] <jusss> jiero: 你这。。。
[13:59] <Guest4418> 额。。。
[14:00] <Guest4418> 你们什么情况？
[14:00] <jusss> jiero: 难道你还想你的蛋蛋光鲜亮节？
[14:00] <Guest4418> 好吧 你们讨论的问题很深奥
[14:00] <jusss> 亮洁
[14:00] <jiero> jusss, 是因为那附近皮肤褶皱多么？
[14:00] <Guest4418> 我开始不懂了
[14:01] <jusss> jiero: 对，女生里面还有更多的褶皱呢
[14:01] <jiero> jusss, 也是皮肤褶皱多的地方黑些，比如胳肢窝
[14:01] <jusss> jiero: 还有因为亚洲人皮肤里黑色素多容易变黑
[14:01] <jiero> jusss, 额。这我就不知道了。。。
[14:02] <jusss> jiero: 所以黑木耳
[14:02] <jiero> jusss, 如果见到了我肯定会观察吧。
[14:02] <jusss> jiero: 你要想见还不容易
[14:02] <jiero> jusss, 不容易
[14:02] <jiero> jusss, 首先不好过自己这一关。
[14:04] <jiero> jusss, 你容易啊。去北京约吧。
[14:04] <jusss> jiero: 已经在了
[14:04] <jiero> jusss, 就说你约吧。
[14:05] <jusss> jiero: 没钱
[14:05] <jiero> jusss 我不知道啊。或许是吧。反正我约没一个人理我哈。
[14:43] <^k^> 暂无新帖 讲个笑话吧: 头部运动 : 一个肥胖的妇人向医生抱怨。 妇人:医生,我的体重已经超过九十公斤了,我该怎么办? 医生:你该做做运动。 妇人:我让做什么运动呢? 医生:这是很简单的头部运动,从左到右,再从右到左。 妇人:一天做几次呢? 医生:不一
[14:43] <^k^> ─> 定,只要是有人请你吃东西时,你就做做这个运动,直到那人离开为止。
[14:48] <^k^> 新 Ubuntu移动应用开发 • Ubuntu #ClinicTime 周三开诊 - 约你手机开发解疑难 http://forum.ubuntu.org.cn/viewtopic.php?t=469417 为了能更加及时详尽的为每位Ubuntu手机开发者提供所需的技术支持，我们将开启Ubuntu手机开发的每周#ClinicTime ，为开发者们提供现场开发”急诊”支持。 开展形式： - 加入Ubunt
[16:15] <gebjgd> alvin_rxg, 最近怎么样 有面试了么
[16:56] <QiongMangHuo> 谁在讨论私处和大腿?
[16:56] <cherrot> ...
[16:57] <cherrot> QiongMangHuo, 你这叫闻讯赶来么
[16:57] <QiongMangHuo> 靠 我猜就是罗姐!
[16:57] <QiongMangHuo> cherrot: 是啊, 慕名而来
[16:59] <QiongMangHuo> cherrot: 你咋还不睡
[16:59] <cherrot> QiongMangHuo, 刚玩玩游戏 给人导一批数据
[17:05] <QiongMangHuo> cherrot: 这频道发红变紫真是挡不住了
[17:05] <QiongMangHuo> cherrot: 你还在加班?
[17:08] <cherrot> QiongMangHuo, 没啊 准备睡了 明天去上班
[17:08] <QiongMangHuo> cherrot: 好充实...
[17:08] <cherrot> QiongMangHuo, 空降了一个leader :D
[17:09] <QiongMangHuo> cherrot: 给他个下马威
[17:12] <cherrot> QiongMangHuo, =。=
[17:12] <cherrot> QiongMangHuo, 你咋还不睡 从没见你这么晚
[17:13] <gebjgd> 失眠呗
[17:13] <QiongMangHuo> cherrot: 闻讯赶来嘛
[17:13] <QiongMangHuo> cherrot: 这两天休息不好, 搞得白天没精神晚上睡不着的
[17:13] <gebjgd> QiongMangHuo, 来一管
[17:13] * QiongMangHuo 央视胡蝶有男朋友了, 我闹心得睡不着
[17:13] <cherrot> QiongMangHuo, 原来是思春了
[17:21] * cherrot 睡了 :)
[22:37] <root____3> 大家早上好啊！我是jackness
[23:12] <root____3> http://wiki.ubuntu.org.cn/IRC http://wiki.ubuntu.org.cn/IRCC
[23:12] <^k^> ⇪ ti: IRC基本概念 - Ubuntu中文
[23:13] <jackness> ls
[23:14] <jackness> dir
[23:14] <jackness> cd
[23:14] <jackness> 我学会改昵称了啊
[23:14] <jackness> 哈哈哈
[23:14] <jackness> whois iMadper
[23:49] <hoxily> test
[23:49] <^k^> hoxily:点点点. 07:49
[23:49] <hoxily> zao
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"HowIsItGoing",
"HuJianRen",
"MeiZhanGuoRen",
"O0XX",
"PuTongFa",
"QiongMangHuo",
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"cherrot",
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"jackness",
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"jusss",
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"kandu",
"onlylove",
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"palomino|working",
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"sennn",
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2015-04-10-#ubuntu-app-devel
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[01:01] <amrlima> hi, is it possible to use qtwebkit to parse a webpage in a scope project?
[03:55] <bzoltan> zbenjamin: rpadovani: technically it is possible to create qmake for 14.10 chroots, but it requires an upgraded qtbase and that would bring some risks. I would not invest our time on this. The 15.04 will come out soon and it will make the 14.10 Kits obsolate.
[04:07] <zsombi_> mhall119: Force the focus on teh component you want in Component.onCompleted of the Page. There's no automated way to do that.
[05:16] <bzoltan> rpadovani: I have replied your mail on the ML. I hope it clarifies that your issue is not an SDK problem.
[07:38] <davidcalle> Good morning o/
[07:40] <davidcalle> bzoltan, ping
[07:40] <bzoltan> davidcalle: yo
[07:41] <davidcalle> bzoltan, hey, I've discovered yesterday the translations building features of the QtCreator plugin and it's awesome, are there any plans to include desktop files translations to it?
[07:43] <davidcalle> bzoltan, I'm asking because the app i18n tutorial is coming today or monday and I'm wondering if I add the manual way to do that for desktop files to it or if users can expect something coming soon-ish.
[07:44] <bzoltan> davidcalle: I would go for the manual .. but let me check around first
[08:03] <mivoligo> Hi, how can I get rid of usermetrics infographics from the circle after I uninstall an app which displays them?
[08:04] <dpm> hi mivoligo, I'm not sure. Perhaps you can ask pete-woods when he's online. He tends to be on #ubuntu-unity
[08:05] <mivoligo> dpm: thanks
[08:05] <mivoligo> mzanetti: any idea? ;)
[08:06] <mzanetti> no
[08:06] <mivoligo> ok
[08:06] <mzanetti> mivoligo, how do you add it? isn't there something like clear() or so?
[08:08] <mivoligo> mzanetti: well, someone sent me an email that he uninstalled PopThat Wrap but he still get usermetrics on the circle
[08:08] <mzanetti> have a link to the documentation for that usermetrics stuff?
[08:10] <mivoligo> mzanetti: I did it based on http://nik90.com/adding-infographics-to-ubuntu-phone/ by
[08:11] <mzanetti> dpm, hey, the usermetrics stuff is not shown in the docs
[08:11] <popey> mivoligo: known bug, we don't delete user data when apps are removed
[08:12] <mzanetti> shouldn't this give me something? https://developer.ubuntu.com/api/qml/development/search/?query=UserMetrics
[08:12] <mivoligo> popey: thanks, can it be done manually somehow?
[08:13] <dpm> mzanetti, which docs? tutorials or API? If it's tutorials, I don't think we've got any yet. If it's API, it's a bug we need to fix. As per the search, we're planning a new deployment of the API site in the next few days that should give you results both from the API part of the site and the more "textual" part of the site
[08:13] <popey> no idea
[08:14] <mivoligo> ok
[08:17] <mivoligo> mzanetti: here's the source code but you probable got to this: http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~unity-team/libusermetrics/trunk/files
[08:17] <mzanetti> dpm, it's completely missing from the docs
[08:17] <mzanetti> so yes, imo a bug
[08:29] <dpm> davidcalle, can bug 1428963 be marked as Fix Released?
[08:31] <davidcalle> dpm, the missing doc file (https://bugs.launchpad.net/accounts-qml-module/+bug/1429038) is fixed so when the new api website is live, yes, I assume it will contain the fix
[08:31] <dpm> mivoligo, mzanetti, reported bug 1442521
[08:31] <dpm> ok, thanks davidcalle
[08:31] <mivoligo> dpm: many thanks :)
[08:32] <mzanetti> dpm. oh... good thing I got distracted and din't yet click "ok" on the report I just wrote :)
[08:32] <mzanetti> thanks
[08:32] <dpm> :-)
[08:33] <mzanetti> dpm, while we're at it... many docs pages don't show return values for methods. drives me nuts at times. probably others too
[08:33] <mzanetti> lemme get you an example
[08:34] <mivoligo> popey: do you have a link to the bug you mentioned?
[08:34] <mzanetti> dpm, https://developer.ubuntu.com/api/qml/sdk-14.10/Ubuntu.Components.PageStack/
[08:35] <mzanetti> dpm, https://developer.ubuntu.com/api/qml/sdk-14.10/Ubuntu.Content.ContentPeer/
[08:35] <mzanetti> dpm, especially things like the ContentPeer.request() are quite useless without evaluating the return value
[08:36] <mzanetti> dpm, IMO someone would need to go through each and every page of the whole docs and verify that
[08:36] <mzanetti> they're missing all over the place
[08:36] <mzanetti> dpm, this is an example how it should look like: https://developer.ubuntu.com/api/qml/sdk-14.10/Ubuntu.OnlineAccounts.AccountService/
[08:38] * dpm looks
[08:40] <dpm> mzanetti, I've got a hunch that that's perhaps a bug in the original source code when defining what will be extracted for the api docs? I'd suggest asking mhall119 when he's online, he'll definitely know more than I do
[08:40] <mzanetti> dpm, yes, it is the original code
[08:41] <mzanetti> dpm, what I'm trying to say, apparently we can't just trust that all the devs get it right. we need an instance that evaluates the docs and reports such things back to the devs
[08:43] <dpm> mzanetti, it might be worth reporting a bug for that. I know we've got an importer script for each type of doc (qdoc in this case). It might make sense to integrate these checks in there. But also to set the expectations: after this next deployment, we're not going to focus on developer site infrastructure for a while
[08:44] <mzanetti> not sure how to read that
[09:11] <Jim___> hello ? how to add content to Notifications panel of status bar pulled down from the top of screen? who can give me a runnable example ?
[09:12] <Jim___> the content is to tell user some application's information , or the user can press it to back to some application!
[09:13] <Jim___> my requirement is relative to push notification client / server ?
[09:15] <Jim___> Which heroes help ah?
[09:19] <rpadovani> bzoltan, thanks for your reply. Indeed, it's not a SDK problem, but I think that there is a lack of documentation on qmake. I'll wait to update my app until vivid will land in RTM
[09:20] <Jim___> qml: GOT ERROR An AppArmor policy prevents this sender from sending this message to this recipient, 0 matched rules; type="method_call", sender=":1.48922" (uid=32011 pid=22811 comm="/usr/lib/arm-linux-gnueabihf/qt5/bin/qmlscene $@ M") interface="com.ubuntu.PushNotifications" member="Register" error name="(unset)" destination="com.ubuntu.PushNotifications" (uid=32011 pid=2054 comm="/usr/lib/ubuntu-push-client/ubuntu-push-cli
[09:20] <Jim___> please help me ??
[09:21] <bzoltan> rpadovani: IMO the qmake should be hidden for the majority of the developers. It just works...
[09:22] <bzoltan> rpadovani: also, where have you read that on Vivid you need PPA?
[09:23] <Jim___> GOT ERROR bad auth
[09:24] <rpadovani> bzoltan, actually, you said me in Feb, because click package in the ppa was more updated that the one in the repo
[09:24] <rpadovani> (and indeed it was)
[09:24] <Jim___> GOT ERROR bad auth after add push-notification-client
[09:25] <mivoligo> Jim___: I have no idea about it but maybe you need to add something to apparmor
[09:26] <bzoltan> rpadovani: ahh.. that was a temporary issue during the integration process as click needed an important fix
[09:28] <bzoltan> rpadovani: landing stuff onthe archive takes more time. Developers are disapointed if I tell them to wait for the official release as they are unhappy if I push a quick fix to a PPA :) Is there anything I can do to please everybody? :D
[09:30] <Jim___> do you know what added exactly?
[09:30] <Jim___> or you can give me an example?
[09:31] <rpadovani> bzoltan, I think is impossible to make anyone happy :-) But let ee it on my side: I have this little app and I have some issue every time I try to update it. It's annoyiung. Luckly, with the switch to vivid, seems there will not be any other problem, so it's ok :-)
[09:34] <bzoltan> rpadovani: What I see as important detail is that you understand that using the unstable release as build environment brings certain risks. The 15.04 was and still is a moving target. It was and still is hardly possible to offer a stable tool what provides a stable abstraction of an unstable foundation.
[09:35] <bzoltan> rpadovani: what makes me sad a bit is that we as the SDK team take the bullets for pretty much all frustration... when in fact we have limited options to prevent such issues.
[09:37] <mivoligo> Jim___: push-notification-client maybe? But I'm just guessing, never used that myself
[09:39] <rpadovani> bzoltan, I'm sorry to shoot to you, but I had a thing was working one month ago and doesn't work anymore now. It's a bit frustrating. But I fully understand your position, so I'm happy to hear that things will be better with vivid. I know I'm using unstable tools (I mean, I think all things here are not so stable) but chroots have the special property to make me crazy anytime I try to use them
[09:40] <rpadovani> bzoltan, anyway, sorry. Now I reply to the mail
[09:40] <Jim___> yes, policy error appear before add push-notification-client,but another error about "GOT ERROR bad auth" appear after add push-notification-client! would you help me check it again ?
[09:41] <Jim___> I am a beginer! you are my hero! please~~~~
[09:43] <bzoltan> rpadovani: thanks mate :) nor worries... Anyway, chroots are indeed pain to deal with. That is the only part of thge SDK I am not fully happy with. In general using chroot is fine as long you know what you are doing and you have the ability to clean up sometimes the mess it leavse and configure to your needs. But to put it as a foundation and build 3 layers (schroot, click, QtC) above it is not a good idea. The reason why it was selected that chroot
[09:43] <bzoltan> saves us from creating toolchains. In chroot you just use the native toolchain and that is it. With the Qt SDK model, the rootfs is rock solid but you need toolchains :) what are not less pain in fact. So there is no silevr bulett :)
[09:45] <mivoligo> Jim___: I'm a beginner as you are :)
[09:46] <rpadovani> bzoltan, I see that. Thanks for your time :-)
[09:46] <Jim___> ~~~~I can not search helper, would you search somebody?^_^
[09:51] <mivoligo> Jim___: I know Stuart Langridge did push notification stuff for his app "caxton". But he does not seam to be here atm. You can try asking on https://plus.google.com/u/0/communities/111350780270925540549
[09:55] <Jim___> ok ,thanks very much!
[10:00] <dpm> Jim___, that should probably help you: https://developer.ubuntu.com/en/apps/platform/guides/push-notifications-client-guide/
[10:03] <Jim___> thank dpm but I have read it
[10:25] <Jim___> Registration: the appId and token properties To register with the push system and start receiving notifications, set the appId property to your application's APP_ID, with or without version number. For this to succeed the user must have an Ubuntu One account configured in the device.
[10:26] <Jim___> to implement push notification client, I need register Ubuntu One account?
[10:34] <mivoligo> dpm: when I got my simple app translated in Launchpad, how can I add those translations to my app?
[10:42] <dpm> mivoligo, this should give some guidance: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Translations/LpProjectConfiguration - in summary, I recommend setting up automatic exports
[10:42] <dpm> that'll get the .po files into your source code
[10:42] <dpm> then it's a matter of building binary .mo files from them and shipping them in the click package
[10:43] <dpm> the question is a bit broad, so if you tell me which step is not clear, I can expand on it
[10:45] <dholbach> hey jdstrand, how about the click-reviewers-tools upload? :)
[10:52] <vitimiti> I want to have a big column of options that can be scrolled so that all of the options are accessible. Should I use a ListView or a Flickable?
[10:55] <mivoligo> dpm: thanks, I'll catch you later then, my kids want to play Minecrat now :D
[11:06] <dpm> have fun! :-)
[12:09] <jdstrand> dholbach: I won't be ready until next week. if you want to do one now, go ahead
[12:15] <dholbach> jdstrand, ok, thanks!
[12:15] <dholbach> jdstrand, I just felt like we had a good bunch of fixes piled up and it might be good to get it into the archive and backport it before the release etc
[12:23] <mivoligo> dpm: ok, so I have some translations in Launchpad already: https://translations.launchpad.net/pop-that-wrap Now I want to add them to the app
[12:24] <chihchun> yo, anyone tried to run Android controller with ubuntu emulator? (for multi touch emulation)
[12:25] <chihchun> I found the screen is mirrored,
[12:25] <jdstrand> dholbach: hold off on the upload a moment
[12:25] <chihchun> looking into details, wonder if anyone see or fix that before
[12:25] * chihchun <- Rex
[12:25] <jdstrand> dholbach: only the debian/changelog was updated in the mvo merge
[12:26] <jdstrand> dholbach: also, I'm not comfortable with the open()
[12:30] <dholbach> jdstrand, ugh, I'm sorry - you're right
[12:30] <dholbach> jdstrand, what would you rather do instead of open()? just print out the filename?
[12:32] <jdstrand> yes please
[12:33] <dholbach> ok, wfm!
[12:35] <dholbach> thanks
[14:46] <sverzegnassi> popey: hey! do we have a list of manual tests for docviewer?
[14:54] <popey> sverzegnassi: we do not! We should.
[14:57] <sverzegnassi> popey: huh, ok! I hoped to be able to steal a bit of inspiration for writing some QML test... :D
[14:57] <sverzegnassi> I'll try to write a list of what it's not covered by automatic tests during the weekend then
[14:58] <popey> ok.
[14:58] <popey> sverzegnassi: maybe just put manual tests in a plan text file in trunk?
[14:59] <sverzegnassi> popey: +1
[14:59] <popey> sverzegnassi: happy to help write some.
[15:02] <sverzegnassi> great! ATM the whole documentPage and content hub stuff have no autopilot test. same thing for command-line parser...
[15:02] <sverzegnassi> i should start giving autopilot some hugs and write some test :P
[15:05] <balloons> sverzegnassi, file some bugs and tag them .. that way others can understand what you need and pitch in :-)
[15:07] <sverzegnassi> balloons: already did! :) need to check if i forgot to file some.
[16:26] <mzanetti> anyone knows what happened to nik90's flashback app?
[18:43] <newsages> hi. hola
[18:44] <newsages> I can make this? "QFile saveFile(QStringLiteral("settings.json")); ".. or need Path for phablet user?
[19:11] <foo-script> evening :)
[19:12] <foo-script> Guys, QtCreator is complaining about missing chroot when I try to ssh to my phone. What are the missing packages? Cross compilatorion tools for armf?
[19:31] <ahoneybun> damn does BQ know how to sell a phone
[19:36] <mhall119> zsombi_: I want a keypress anywhere on the page to be caught, not just on certain components
[20:40] <foo-script> Guys, I've tried to connect by OpenSSH to my phone, but instead of bash/tsh prompt I see "Cannot find the shell"
[20:41] <foo-script> any ideas?
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ubuntu-chat
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| 2015-04-10T00:00:00 |
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2015-04-10-#ubuntu-devel
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[00:01] <hallyn> bleh
[00:01] <hallyn> pod2man: unable to format script/dh_systemd_start.1p
[00:01] <hallyn> pod2man: unable to format script/running-in-container
[00:01] <hallyn> debian/rules:17: recipe for target 'override_dh_auto_build' failed
[00:03] <hallyn> after dinner
[03:10] <hallyn> interesting - upstart simply will not build on vivid with systemd. make check fails
[04:40] <arges> hallyn: i think i simply forgot about that bug.
[04:44] <pitti> hallyn: so far we didn't need that, as there's ConditionVirtualization=
[04:44] <pitti> ah, infinity already pointed to that
[04:44] <pitti> that's for units, and systemd-detect-virt for scripts
[04:45] <pitti> both of which are upstream, so we can eventually stop having the ubuntu specific container-detect.conf
[07:50] <seb128> mvo, bdmurray, hey, is bug #1356823 something you are looking at? It's ranked issue n°1 on e.u.c for vivid
[07:59] <Odd_Bloke> dannf: Can you confirm that http://cloud-images.ubuntu.com/vivid/current/vivid-server-cloudimg-arm64-uefi1.img boots as you expect?
[08:00] <Odd_Bloke> I've just tested it locally and it booted uninterrupted, but confirmation would be appreciated. :)
[08:02] <seb128> Riddell, hey, bug #1442512 seems recent, maybe something wrong with your qt5 migration
[08:03] <mvo> seb128: let me check
[08:03] <seb128> mvo, danke
[08:19] <Riddell> thanks seb128
[08:19] <seb128> Riddell, yw!
[08:34] <seb128> mvo, thanks for the fix ;-)
[08:35] <mvo> seb128: thanks for raising the issue
[08:35] <seb128> mvo, yw :-)
[08:50] <LocutusOfBorg1> good morning
[08:50] <Unit193> It'sabork.
[09:18] <Odd_Bloke> I just hit "W: GPG error: http://archive.ubuntu.com vivid-updates Release: Unknown error executing gpgv"; anyone have any ideas what might be causing that?
[09:18] <Odd_Bloke> (This is on a now-destroyed automated testing instance, so I can't do any poking around)
[09:42] <pitti> tseliot: I'm fixing the ubuntu-drivers-common autopkgtests
[09:42] <pitti> tseliot: is there an fglrx bug to track "known to not work with current vivid kernel/X.org" that I shouldl reference?
[09:44] <tseliot> pitti: I think users file new bug reports about it every time
[09:44] <pitti> ok
[09:44] <pitti> tseliot: I just mark the two as expected failures for now, and fixed the others
[09:50] <tseliot> pitti: fglrx shouldn't fail in vivid though. What's going on?
[10:02] <pmjdebruijn> hi folks, I've been using live-build to make custom ISOs, which works reasonably well... however they do differ from official generated images in unexpected ways... genisoimage is used instead of xorriso for example
[10:03] <pmjdebruijn> can anybody here shed some light on how official ubuntu ISOs are generated?
[10:03] * LocutusOfBorg1 hugs ginggs
[10:04] <ogra_> pmjdebruijn, live-build is only used for generating the rootfs (squashfs in case of the desktop isos) ... we have a master tool called cdimage that takes these rootfses and pipes them into debian-cd ... debian-cd then turns them into bootable images
[10:05] <pmjdebruijn> aha
[10:05] <ogra_> our configs for live-build live in the livecd-rootfs package btw
[10:05] <pmjdebruijn> right
[10:05] <pmjdebruijn> the live-build generated ISOs mis EFI support for example
[10:05] <pmjdebruijn> ogra_: is there more documentation on that process, so I can replicate it?
[10:05] <ogra_> https://code.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-cdimage
[10:06] <ogra_> it isnt well documented beyond the source sadly, the setup is rather complex
[10:07] <pmjdebruijn> ogra_: thanks for the hints
[10:07] <caribou> debfx: would you have time to sponsor a backport to precise for openafs ? you've done the previous one
[10:07] * pmjdebruijn wonders if it'll be a better option to hack a bit on live-build :)
[10:09] <tseliot> LocutusOfBorg1: I have just uploaded the fix for fglrx in utopic-proposed. The SRU team will have to approve it though
[10:13] <pmjdebruijn> on another sidenote, anybody a clue why fonts-crosextra-caladea fonts-crosextra-carlito aren't included by default?
[10:15] <pmjdebruijn> they are compatibility fonts (similar in concept to the Liberation fonts), but they replace Calibri/Cambria, which are popular in modern docx files
[10:21] <pitti> tseliot: oh, not? well, the driver fails to build
[10:22] <rbasak> pmjdebruijn: file a bug against the libreoffice package to recommend them, perhaps?
[10:23] <tseliot> pitti: do you have any logs?
[10:23] <pitti> tseliot: it was hidden by another error in the tests (apt slightly changed behaviour apparently), but with that fixed they fail
[10:23] <LocutusOfBorg1> thanks tseliot
[10:23] <pitti> tseliot: building manually, hang on
[10:23] <tseliot> LocutusOfBorg1: np
[10:24] <tseliot> pitti: ok. BTW it's the fglrx-core that builds the modules, not fglrx any more
[10:25] <pmjdebruijn> rbasak: possibly, I was wondering if there was a general font-inclusion council or something? :)
[10:25] <pitti> tseliot: oh! then I figure the test needs to be adjusted to that
[10:26] <tseliot> pitti: right :)
[10:26] * pitti does that then
[10:26] <pitti> oh, and please let's not paper over this by adding force-badtest in britney, please
[10:31] <tseliot> ?
[10:32] <pitti> tseliot: such a test override was added by the release team when u-d-c started failing
[10:32] <tseliot> pitti: oh, ok
[10:36] <dholbach> @pilot in
[10:37] <rbasak> pmjdebruijn: no idea. Ask in #ubuntu-desktop maybe?
[10:48] <pitti> tseliot: ok, all fixed, and uploaded
[10:49] <tseliot> pitti: thanks!
[10:52] <LocutusOfBorg1> dholbach, hi, do you think I can ask to merge transmission/experimental?
[10:52] <LocutusOfBorg1> it has finally fixed the systemd transition
[10:52] <LocutusOfBorg1> https://packages.qa.debian.org/t/transmission/news/20150410T103425Z.html
[10:54] <dholbach> LocutusOfBorg1, hum... Unable to find transmission in Debian suite "experimental".
[10:55] <dholbach> ah, incoming
[10:56] <dholbach> LocutusOfBorg1, sure - feel free to merge it!
[11:04] <LocutusOfBorg1> thanks :)
[11:05] <LocutusOfBorg1> I don't think the actual transmission can rebuild in vivid clean environment
[11:05] <LocutusOfBorg1> pitti, did libsystemd-daemon-dev still exist in vivid?
[11:08] <pitti> LocutusOfBorg1: it still does, yes (although deprecated)
[11:08] <LocutusOfBorg1> I have some code that does sd_notify and on debian I add -lsystemd, on utopic -lsystemd-daemon
[11:09] <LocutusOfBorg1> what on vivid?
[11:09] <pitti> LocutusOfBorg1: libsystemd-dev and -lsystemd are preferred
[11:09] <LocutusOfBorg1> on utopic doesn't work :(
[11:09] <pitti> LocutusOfBorg1: libsystemd-daemon-dev is just for backwards compat
[11:09] <pitti> LocutusOfBorg1: no, but we are talking about vivid here, don't we?
[11:10] <LocutusOfBorg1> wonderful, so after utopic systemd will be really unified
[11:10] <LocutusOfBorg1> I like it
[11:24] <LocutusOfBorg1> wow a new systemd upload! :)
[11:28] <mbiebl> LocutusOfBorg1: https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/pkgreport.cgi?users=pkg-systemd-maintainers@lists.alioth.debian.org;tag=libsystemd
[11:32] <LocutusOfBorg1> yes mbiebl; I was looking at debian 763297 already
[11:45] <mgedmin> cyphermox, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gfxboot-theme-ubuntu/+bug/1442586 looks like one for you (according to seb128)
[12:13] <nemo> http://www.bq.com/fr/ubuntu.html *sigh*
[12:13] <nemo> EU only
[12:23] <ogra_> nemo, where would you want it beyond that ?
[12:23] <ogra_> the radio is limited to EU frequencies
[12:25] <nemo> there are EU-specific frequencies? O_o
[12:26] <nemo> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GSM_frequency_bands huh...
[12:26] <nemo> guess all my other phones work across any bands
[12:26] <nemo> anyway. doesn't seem to be EU exclusive
[12:26] <nemo> "In Africa, Europe, Middle East and Asia, most of the providers use 900 MHz and 1800 MHz bands."
[12:27] <shadeslayer> mvo: pokety poke @ kubuntu-core :(
[12:27] <ogra_> well, the point is you can only get 2G in the US with it
[12:27] <nemo> 2G GSM (850/900/1800/1900)
[12:27] <nemo> 3G HSPA+ (900/2100)
[12:27] <nemo> off the phone specs
[12:27] <nemo> so. GSM-1900 is used in US and Canada according to that wikipedia page
[12:28] <nemo> ah. 2G. eh. who cares
[12:28] <nemo> still take it
[12:28] <ogra_> btw, #ubuntu-touch is our phone channel
[12:29] <nemo> anyway. looks like it really is "Works in most of world for 3G, and Americas for 2G" so that doesn't quite the same as "EU only"
[12:29] <nemo> m'k. thanks.
[12:29] <ogra_> well, there is that FCC thingie too :)
[12:30] <nemo> again that seems to presuppose the world consists of US and EU
[12:30] * nemo shrugs
[12:31] <nemo> anyway. what I gather is that it probably would work if I ordered it
[12:31] <ogra_> i think someone said he spotted one or two on ebay
[12:35] <Sweet5hark> Hi, Im looking for someone from the ubuntu-sru team. This one should actually be rather easy: can you drop the pending LibreOffice 4.2.8/trusty update? https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/libreoffice/1:4.2.8-0ubuntu1
[12:35] * Sweet5hark hopes that dropping an SRU is easier than approving one ...
[12:37] <pmjdebruijn> anything wrong with that?
[12:42] <Sweet5hark> pmjdebruijn: are you asking about the libreoffice SRU?
[12:43] <pmjdebruijn> yes (though I'm not from the ubuntu-sru team, just a curious bystander)
[12:46] <Sweet5hark> pmjdebruijn: nothing wrong with the package itself functionally, just the changelog has a misleading line and I try to avoid LTS people to have needlessly too many updates as a new one will be there soon ...
[12:46] <pmjdebruijn> ah cool :)
[12:47] <pmjdebruijn> btw, tnx for your work on the lovely libreoffice ppas :)
[12:52] <Sweet5hark> yeah, those are for the guys who cant get enough updates ;)
[12:52] <pmjdebruijn> hehe
[12:53] <pmjdebruijn> well, for some applications it's rather nice to get out-of-band updates for file format compatibility and such
[12:54] <pmjdebruijn> Sweet5hark: on a different note, slightly abusing the situation, now you're here, are you aware of fonts-crosextra-caladea and fonts-crosextra-carlito? they might be nice Recommends for libreoffice
[12:56] <LocutusOfBorg1> why pbuilder-dist vivid has upstart installed^
[12:56] <LocutusOfBorg1> ?
[12:56] <LocutusOfBorg1> pitti, ^^^ :)
[12:56] <fionnan> anyone know of a good guide for using docker on ubuntu snappy?
[12:56] <Sweet5hark> pmjdebruijn: on libreoffice 4.4 packages those are Suggests of libreoffice-writer ...
[12:57] <LocutusOfBorg1> I was trying to undestand why sid has no cpio by default and ubuntu has, and upstart seems to be the clue
[12:57] <pmjdebruijn> Sweet5hark: oh? doesn't everybody ignore Suggests? I really meant Recommends though :)
[12:58] <pmjdebruijn> they are very very nice to have installed if one comes across docx files
[12:58] <mitya57> Recommends will mean pulling those fonts into the desktop images, which will increase their size
[12:58] <pmjdebruijn> is that currently a significant issue? considering the 700MB boundary has already been crossed?
[13:00] <davmor2> Sweet5hark: https://developer.ubuntu.com/en/snappy/guides/ maybe?
[13:00] <pmjdebruijn> those two font package can be very helpful in making "document look right" on ubuntu by default
[13:01] <pmjdebruijn> and they will add less than 3MB uncompressed
[13:01] <davmor2> Sweet5hark: sorry that was for fionnan
[13:01] <davmor2> fionnan: https://developer.ubuntu.com/en/snappy/guides/
[13:02] <fionnan> davmor2: cheers
[13:02] <davmor2> fionnan: no guarantee but it's a good place to start
[13:03] <fionnan> davmor2: yup, I've read through most of those docs and they're really helpful, just a bit stuck trying to get docker to load a file now
[13:05] <fionnan> incidentally, I think I've found a mistake in the documentation here https://developer.ubuntu.com/en/snappy/guides/
[13:06] <fionnan> I think this line `ec2-import-keypair -f ~/.ssh/snappy-rsa snappy-key`
[13:06] <fionnan> should be `ec2-import-keypair -f ~/.ssh/snappy-rsa.pub snappy-key`
[13:07] <davmor2> fionnan: there should be a report an issue button on the bottom of the page that should take you to launchpad with the page details in the bug
[13:08] <fionnan> davmor2: thanks, found it!
[13:10] <pmjdebruijn> Sweet5hark, mitya57 those extra fonts are particularly valuable in business environments
[13:15] <mitya57> pmjdebruijn: Please read https://www.debian.org/doc/debian-policy/ch-relationships.html#s-binarydeps carefully.
[13:15] <mitya57> These fonts packages are the exact case for "Suggests"
[13:21] <rbasak> One use case for the libreoffice package is to provide an equivalent for MS Office. If the fonts provide the equivalent of defaults for Word, then maybe " The Recommends field should list packages that would be found together with this one in all but unusual installations." is justified?
[13:22] <rbasak> Use case "I receive an emailed .docx and expect it to open and print identically as it appeared to the sender".
[13:25] <seb128> dpm, pitti, do you know if there is an issue with the vivid langpack? they didn't get an update for a while, https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/language-pack-gnome-fr for example is from 20150316
[13:26] <fionnan> anyone know if there is a channel for snappy noobs to ask for help?
[13:26] <pmjdebruijn> rbasak: yes, @use-case, that's exactly what everybody expects
[13:27] <rbasak> pmjdebruijn: if a bug doesn't already exist, I suggest you file one and make your case there.
[13:28] <pmjdebruijn> fair enough
[13:28] <pmjdebruijn> against libreoffice then, right?
[13:29] <rbasak> Yes
[13:30] <rbasak> I suggest you cover in detail the bits that you're summarised here. Eg. the default font as will appear on a .docx.
[13:31] <dpm> seb128, I don't know, I've be been a bit out of touch with langpacks lately, sorry
[13:31] <dpm> fionnan, indeed there is, try #snappy
[13:31] <seb128> dpm, no worry
[13:31] <fionnan> thank dpm!
[13:31] <fionnan> s/thank/thanks/
[13:31] <seb128> dpm, btw it might be worth pointing the translators the click store categories, I did it to the -fr team and they already translated those ;-)
[13:32] <cjwatson> seb128: There was a problem with the langpacks key being out of date on the keyserver - pitti fixed that, but I don't know if there's been a retried upload since
[13:32] <seb128> cjwatson, ok, thanks, who can retry? is that a pitti thing?
[13:33] <dpm> seb128, I know, it's back on my list after you and ogra were looking at the template yesterday, but busy day today
[13:33] <cjwatson> seb128: Not as simple as a retry, apparently ...
[13:33] <cjwatson> 2015-04-06 05:23:32 INFO Failed to parse changes file '/srv/launchpad.net/ubuntu-queue/incoming/upload-ftp-20150406-052225-005790/ubuntu-rtm/language-pack-touch-ast_14.10+rtm14.09+20150405_source.changes': GPG verification of /srv/launchpad.net/ubuntu-queue/incoming/upload-ftp-20150406-052225-005790/ubuntu-rtm/language-pack-touch-ast_14.10+rtm14.09+20150405_source.changes failed: Verification failed 3 times: ["(7, 153, u'Key ...
[13:33] <cjwatson> ... expired')", "(7, 153, u'Key expired')", "(7, 153, u'Key expired')"]
[13:33] <seb128> :-(
[13:35] <cjwatson> Odd - the keyserver itself seems to have accepted the expiration update
[13:35] <cjwatson> Oh, wait, that log is four days old
[13:36] <cjwatson> pitti pushed the update on 2015-04-08
[13:36] <cjwatson> seb128: So yeah, I think it's a pitti thing to retry
[13:42] <seb128> cjwatson, great, thanks for looking
[13:45] <rbasak> infinity: looks like powerpc failed for lack of the same syscall number as your arm64 fix. https://github.com/docker/libcontainer/pull/517 suggests you're working on it already?
[14:21] <mvo> shadeslayer: meh, sorry, incredible busy currently :/
[14:21] <shadeslayer> :(
[14:21] <shadeslayer> Can I bribe you with chocolate
[14:21] <shadeslayer> :P
[14:21] * shadeslayer is trying to setup his own live-build scripts to build a rootfs at the moment
[14:24] * pmjdebruijn uses the ubuntu-defaults-builder wrapper around live-build
[14:26] <shadeslayer> pmjdebruijn: won't work for making just a plain rootfs
[14:26] <shadeslayer> which is why I need to do more customizations
[14:26] <shadeslayer> looking at https://git.linaro.org/ci/ubuntu-build-service.git/blob/HEAD:/sid-armhf-debian/configure
[14:26] <pmjdebruijn> ah nevermidn then
[14:27] * pmjdebruijn hides back in his corner
[14:41] <soee_> tseliot: i have info from Riddell that you are working on nvidia drivers for 15.04? Could you give me some info what is the current problem - why they wont work (bootking ends with black screen)?
[14:42] <flexiondotorg> What is the mechanism for re-opening a bug on LP?
[14:42] <flexiondotorg> As of today's daily images this is broken again - https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubiquity/+bug/1436937
[14:47] <tseliot> soee_: I think I've just got it to work with hybrid graphics now. But I would still like to fix the memory leak of the displayScript qProcess never being deleted
[14:48] <soee_> tseliot: cool, so it all shoudl work before Vivid final release ?
[14:48] <tseliot> QProcess::startDetatched seems to fail too
[14:48] <tseliot> soee_: I certainly hope so
[14:48] <soee_> tseliot: wo what packages it is related ?
[14:49] <tseliot> soee_: right now the only part missing (my patch does it) is a hook in sddm to run a script on log out
[14:49] <tseliot> so sddm is the package
[14:53] <sunweaver> Trevinho: hi!
[14:53] <Trevinho> sunweaver: hi
[14:54] <sunweaver> I am DD in the Debian MATE packaging team and want to take over maintenance for bamf in Debian.
[14:54] <Trevinho> sunweaver: oh, finally someone! :)
[14:54] <sunweaver> I see there is a 0.5.0 tarball on the launchpad project page.
[14:54] <sunweaver> but you ship some 0.5.1 version in Ubuntu versions already.
[14:54] <Trevinho> sunweaver: yep, it's not the latest tough
[14:54] <Trevinho> sunweaver: yes, you need a release?
[14:54] <sunweaver> actually yes.
[14:55] <sunweaver> esp. one that works without libunity-webapp.
[14:55] <Trevinho> ricotz: was asking the same few days ago...
[14:55] <sunweaver> ;-)
[14:55] <sunweaver> ricotz actually enrolled me in maintaining bamf...
[14:55] <Trevinho> sunweaver: well, even that one does not need it (it's an optional dependency)
[14:55] <sunweaver> yeah, I see that.
[14:55] <sunweaver> I checked out the latest (V-series) package in Ubuntu
[14:56] <sunweaver> and saw that unity-webapp stuff has been reduced to a minimal.
[14:56] <sunweaver> I'd be happy about something recent as a tarball release.
[14:56] <Trevinho> sunweaver: so... I can do that in a bit...
[14:56] <Trevinho> sunweaver: yes, actually we could even remove it at all
[14:56] <sunweaver> whatever...
[14:56] <sunweaver> ping me here, once I can run uscan --report-status again... ;-)
[14:57] <sunweaver> 0.5.x will be pushed to Debian experimental first.
[14:57] <sunweaver> then plank will receive an update 0.9.x
[14:57] <Trevinho> sunweaver: ok, nice
[14:57] <soee_> tseliot: thank you for this informations
[14:57] <sunweaver> and if that works well and we don't pee on someone else's package (have to check reverse build dependencies in Debian still), I will upload to unstable.
[14:57] <tseliot> soee_: np
[14:58] <sunweaver> Trevinho: thanks! Waiting for a ping from yours.
[14:58] <Trevinho> sunweaver: there are a couple of branches that are waiting also, so maybe it's better to include these as well
[14:58] <tseliot> Riddell: so, now it even works on log out here. I only need to close that leak that was already there
[14:58] <Riddell> tseliot++
[14:58] <Trevinho> it might take some more time to get the builders but, not much
[14:58] <sunweaver> Trevinho: take your time.
[14:59] <sunweaver> I just wanted to get the stone rolling...
[15:21] <cousteau> can this bug with libcairo be fixed for Ubuntu 12.04? https://bugs.launchpad.net/inkscape/+bug/759154
[15:35] <dholbach> @pilot out
[15:41] <tseliot> d_ed: I think I've fixed the two issues. All seems to work fine. See my last commit
[15:44] <tseliot> Riddell: so, I have a couple of patches that I can merge into one (since they really complete hybrid graphics support). That patch + "DisplayStopCommand=/sbin/prime-switch" in the conf file should do it
[15:46] <Riddell> tseliot: awooga
[15:52] <tseliot> Riddell: here's the unified patch: http://people.canonical.com/~amilone/0001-Add-support-for-DisplayStopCommand.patch
[15:52] <tseliot> I can now switch between GPUs when I log out :)
[16:42] <d_ed> tseliot: do you plan on updating the github request?
[17:05] <infinity> rbasak: Yeah, I'll fix powerpc and upload.
[17:05] <infinity> rbasak: Well, "fix" powerpc. I'll fix upstream's code so it builds, but I think the toolchain has some issues that make the binaries a bit broken. :P
[17:09] <rbasak> infinity: OK, thanks.
[17:22] <pitti> cjwatson, seb128: RTM langpacks are working now, so the LP import for the updated key took < ½ day
[17:22] <pitti> ah, vivid langpacks are behind too? they only run weekly
[17:27] <pitti> I'm on the road now, but opened a tab as a reminder; I'll prod this in the next days (probably on Sat or so when I arrived in Austin)
[17:39] <tseliot> d_ed: I did
[17:41] <tseliot> d_ed: but I did git push -f as I had previously pushed the wrong commit
[18:42] <d_ed> tseliot: ah, found it on your repo. The pull request still shows the one from 8 days ago
[18:42] <d_ed> I don't understand github yet
[18:55] <soee_> d_ed: i think if tseliot updates hes branch that had pull request it pull request wont be updated
[18:56] <soee_> or maybe i wrong since i havent been using github for a while
[19:03] <soee_> well i was wrong i think, pull request contains both commits https://github.com/sddm/sddm/compare/master...tseliot:master
[19:09] <tseliot> soee_, d_ed: the pull request should contain the two relevant commits. But yes, they are also in my master branch
[19:10] <soee_> tseliot: so it has to be only merged now ?
[19:12] <tseliot> soee_: yes. Then Riddell will include the changes and add DisplayStopCommand=/sbin/prime-switch in scripts/Xstop or in the .conf file
[19:14] <soee_> tseliot: who can merge it ?
[19:24] <tseliot> soee_: ok, so, if we're talking about upstream, d_ed can. In Ubuntu, Riddell will deal with it
[19:29] <Riddell> tseliot: you also need to edit data/CMakeLists.txt to install Xstop
[19:42] <Riddell> tseliot: uploaded to archive https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/sddm/0.11.0-0ubuntu10
[19:50] <asac> apw: ogasawara: so i have a kernel source package by paolo and wonder where i can find the config he uses in there
[19:50] <asac> where do i look?
[19:52] <asac> ogra_: slangasek: any idea?
[19:52] <infinity> asac: Getting it out of the source package is actually sort of tough, cause it's a split config.
[19:52] <infinity> asac: If you build a binary package, though, it's installed at /boot/config-$(uname -r)
[19:53] <asac> oops
[19:53] <asac> ok lt me try to find it in https://launchpad.net/~p-pisati/+archive/ubuntu/misc/+files/linux-image-3.19.1-4-generic-bcm2709_3.19.1-4.4_armhf.deb
[19:54] <asac> infinity: thanks ... got it!!!
[19:54] <infinity> asac: NP.
[19:55] <asac> infinity: so i found he doesnt have CONFIG_BLK_DEV_DM
[19:55] <asac> how can i enable it?
[19:55] <asac> that looks really to make sense from the error i am getting
[19:55] <asac> [ 348.917047] device-mapper: table: 254:0: thin-pool: unknown target type
[19:55] <asac> [ 348.924052] device-mapper: ioctl: error adding target to table
[19:56] <infinity> (base)adconrad@cthulhu:~/build/linux/ubuntu-vivid$ rgrep CONFIG_BLK_DEV_DM debian.master/
[19:56] <infinity> debian.master/config/config.common.ubuntu:CONFIG_BLK_DEV_DM=y
[19:56] <infinity> debian.master/config/config.common.ubuntu:CONFIG_BLK_DEV_DM_BUILTIN=y
[19:56] <infinity> debian.master/config/annotations:CONFIG_BLK_DEV_DM y mark<ENFORCED> note<LP:#560717>
[19:56] <infinity> asac: If that's based on a master config, it should be enabled, unless he's explicitly disabled it for your flavor.
[19:56] <asac> infinity: its not in the boot/config
[19:56] <asac> infinity: its something derived from a nice BSP kernel :)
[19:56] <infinity> asac: If it's not based on a master config, well. Whee. But root around in debian.$flavour/config
[19:56] <asac> https://launchpad.net/~p-pisati/+archive/ubuntu/misc/+files/linux-bcm2709_3.19.1-4.4.dsc
[20:16] <Unit193> FWIW, in upstart sshd is Restart=always, but in systemd it is Restart=on-failure.
[21:01] <tseliot> Riddell: right, I tested using sddm.conf, so I didn't catch that. I'll fix that
[21:01] <soee> tseliot: did you tried propriety drivers ?
[21:02] <tseliot> soee: yes, I tested that with intel+nvidia binary (hybrid graphics)
[21:02] <soee> tseliot: just tires it with updated sddm, ends up witb black screen when sddm shoudl load
[21:03] <soee> *tried
[21:03] <tseliot> soee: what hardware configuration are you using?
[21:04] <soee> tseliot: dell witg intel + nvidia
[21:04] <tseliot> soee: is that vivid?
[21:05] <soee> tseliot: yes
[21:05] <soee> all worked fine in utopiv when we had lightdm
[21:05] <soee> *utopic
[21:05] <soee> after switch to sddm i couldn't use nvidia profiel anymore
[21:05] <tseliot> soee: make sure ubuntu-drivers-common is at least 1:0.4.2
[21:06] <soee> Installed: 1:0.4.4
[21:07] <soee> also when i switch to nvidia profile and try to boot
[21:08] <tseliot> soee: can I see /var/log/gpu-manager.log and /var/log/Xorg.0.log?
[21:09] <soee> tseliot: http://paste.ubuntu.com/10794728/
[21:10] <soee> tseliot: and http://paste.ubuntu.com/10794734/
[21:11] <soee> i just uninstalled nvidia-prime and drivers because i culdnt boot
[21:11] <tseliot> soee: you're using intel+nouveau, there's no nvidia. Also no nvidia-prime means no functioning nvidia binary on your system
[21:12] <soee> tseliot: yes i remoed them to be able to boot
[21:12] <soee> i couldn;t login but here the problem was that somehow .Xauthority changed owner to root
[21:12] <soee> so sddm could not login me
[21:13] <tseliot> soee: ok, please wait until all is in place (sddm, including the Cmake addition, and the change in XStop), then try again
[21:13] <tseliot> I think we'll fix it next week
[21:13] <soee> tseliot: i tried nvidia-prime + new sddm and i could login
[21:13] <soee> after i have installed propriety drivers, black screen only
[21:17] <soee> reboot
[21:22] <soee> tseliot: without drivers i can login but http://paste.ubuntu.com/10794811/
[21:33] <tseliot> Riddell: I've just made another merge request to fix CMakeLists.txt: https://github.com/sddm/sddm/pull/399
[21:33] <tseliot> soee: as I said, it's better if you wait until everything is in place
[21:34] <tseliot> d_ed: see https://github.com/sddm/sddm/pull/399
[21:37] <d_ed> tseliot: thanks
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[06:06] <_ruben> our current installation standard has lvm vg naming based on servername. is there some way to do this with partman auto as well? as in something like lv_name{ $hostname }
[06:07] <_ruben> make that vg_name obviously ;)
[09:17] <_ruben> or actually it's not really partman specific, but more d-i specific. googleing for preseeding and variables yields tons of results, but none that apply to this case. logical conclusion: one cant use variables (other d-i key/val pairs) within a preseed script .. lets see if can cook something up in the pxe part of it all
[09:49] <cjwatson> _ruben: You can write a partman/early_command script that computes the preseed file you want for the rest of partman and feeds it to debconf-set-selections.
[11:49] <_ruben> hm, managed to get d-i to pick up hostname from dhcp, but it still asks me for confirmation. so far all google hits go the other way around (ppl wanting to be prompted).
[11:49] <_ruben> and the early_command stuff is likely the way to solve my previous question indeed
[14:18] <flexiondotorg> cyphermox, Bad news :(
[14:18] <flexiondotorg> cyphermox, On current daily oem-config doesn't work properly.
[14:19] <flexiondotorg> cyphermox, I've test Ubuntu and Ubuntu MATE. Results are the same.
[14:20] <flexiondotorg> cyphermox, Click prepare. Reboot. Do the wizard and when it finishes you are logged in to the desktop as the 'oem' user. The Prepare icon is on the desktop and displays an error if clicked :(
[14:43] <cyphermox> well, yeah it would make sense given that the app would no longer be on disk
[14:43] <cyphermox> so why does this ever go in oem at all now?
[14:45] <flexiondotorg> cyphermox, Not sure I understand you last comment? ^^^
[14:45] <flexiondotorg> cyphermox, I am testing again right now.
[14:45] <cyphermox> the only reason I can think of that happening is if some process is running as the oem user, which shouldn't be the case
[14:45] <flexiondotorg> I have just completed an oem install.
[14:46] <flexiondotorg> And will do the prepare thing.
[14:46] <cyphermox> when something's running and survives the initial pkill -u oem; then userdel won't work
[14:46] <flexiondotorg> cyphermox, I've had an OEM report this to me for a few days.
[14:46] <flexiondotorg> cyphermox, I was not able to reproduce until today.
[14:47] <flexiondotorg> Just doing a dist-upgrade then I'll shutdown, snapshot and test.
[14:51] <flexiondotorg> cyphermox, I have an untested theory.
[14:51] <flexiondotorg> cyphermox, What is the screensaver kicks in?
[14:52] <flexiondotorg> *What if
[14:53] <cyphermox> nope
[14:53] <flexiondotorg> cyphermox, No, it is not the screensaver kicking in. Just tested.
[14:53] <cyphermox> the oem-config dialog itself shouldn't be running as oem anyway
[14:54] <flexiondotorg> cyphermox, Just reproduce it again.
[14:54] <cyphermox> ok, then please file a bug and list the exact steps used
[14:54] <flexiondotorg> cyphermox, There is already a bug.
[14:55] <cyphermox> we'll need to dig in while this runs and see why something runs as the oem user
[14:55] <flexiondotorg> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubiquity/+bug/1436937
[14:55] <cyphermox> no, that bug was closed, let's file a new one
[14:55] <flexiondotorg> cyphermox, OK.
[15:08] <flexiondotorg> cyphermox, Here you go - https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubiquity/+bug/1442679
[15:12] <cyphermox> flexiondotorg: thanks. I'll get to it a bit later today
[15:12] <cyphermox> I want to fix the iso image promotion first, and then efi too
[15:12] <cyphermox> fortunately the promotion part should be easy enough
[15:12] <flexiondotorg> cyphermox, This is why I am interested in oem-config ;)
[15:12] <flexiondotorg> https://ubuntu-mate.org/blog/ubuntu-mate-hardware-partnership-with-entroware/
[15:12] <flexiondotorg> cyphermox, Thanks.
[15:13] <cyphermox> yes, of course. you told me before :)
[15:13] <cyphermox> is that with your fixed up oem-config that runs on boot?
[15:14] <cyphermox> it would be nice if you could try to make oem-config.target [email protected] (like I mentioned before), and see if while oem-config is running, there might be something else running as the oem user
[15:16] <cyphermox> hey! found the broken testcase for image promotion. it's just not wise enough
[15:33] <flexiondotorg> cyphermox, I will try oem-config.target [email protected]
[19:32] <cyphermox> flexiondotorg: did you find anything useful?
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ubuntu-chat
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2015-04-10-#ubuntu-ops
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[03:05] <elky> @mark sal-monella #ubuntu-offtopic racist nonsense about contracting hiv by being in the same swimming pool as a black person
[09:35] <FraidyCat> hiiiii
[12:53] <popey> so.. what do I do about requesting those IRC channels & bots etc?
[14:48] <bazhang> ping jpds ^
genii, skype was never there
[15:47] <bazhang> thats not what he said , even just a short while ago
[15:47] <genii> I just pointed that out to them
[15:47] <bazhang> he had skype from the repos, then he installed a deb from the skype website
[15:57] <bazhang> please tell me that voyage's system is in a vbox
[15:58] <bazhang> that has to be about the most unstable system on the planet
[16:04] <genii> I don't know but looks like working now
[16:04] * genii wanders off to a teleconference he's already late for
[16:22] <popey> tsimpson: you about? I need help with a special UDS/UOS bot. Asked jpds but he doesn't have the same kind of bot, apparently only you do.
[20:30] <bazhang> two unsupporteds make a support!
[20:30] <k1l_> - * - = +? :)
[20:30] <bazhang> hehe
[20:34] <genii> enigmas wrapped in fog shrouded in mystery
[21:18] <k1l_> kicking when client drops with Max SendQ exceeded doesnt help. going back to forwardban.
[21:18] <Unit193> k1l_: It's luck.
[21:31] <elky> ok, retrostevenprestodalewhateverelse is now banforwarded to here because:
[21:31] <elky> * Steven_Dale ([email protected]) has joined #ubuntu-offtopic
[21:31] <elky> * Steven_Dale tries to live up to the agreements he made with the ubuntu operators and changes his nick whenever he joins here
[21:33] <elky> he's possibly on holiday and will possible appear on other ips
[21:33] <chu> Thank you elky. Sorry to whoever has to deal with him. To be honest, he's a repeat offender, and not interested in participating within the rule-set.
[21:34] <elky> he's mocking us
[21:34] <chu> Yep.
[21:34] <elky> he knows he is mocking us
[21:34] <elky> he adds literally nothing to the channel
[21:34] <chu> I can only support whatever elky has to say.
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2015-04-10-#ubuntu-arm
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[06:50] <lilstevie> MeanderingCode, the WHQL process for windows RT devices mandates that secureboot is always active, and that it only includes the microsoft root public key, on x86/x64 they require it to also include the intermediate public key. Microsoft code is signed with the root key, verisigned code is done with the intermediate key.
[10:33] <hvn52> hi, I'm using kernel 3.17.1-armv7 on my BeagleBoard Classic Rev C4 and find that I can write to the RS232 port but not read from it. When I look at vanilla kernel 3.19.3 for the settings of the SERIAL_8250_OMAP, I notice it's dependent on TTY + HAS_IOMEM + SERIAL_8250 + ARCH_OMAP2PLUS. Does it have any dependencies for read/write ability ?
[10:37] <hvn52> BTW, kernel 3.17.1-armv7 is part of Ubuntu 14.04 armhf.
[21:14] <mijk> hey, anyone know of any ARM laptop/netbook that runs Ubuntu well?
[21:14] <mijk> and by well, I mean hardware accelerated video :P
[22:41] <genii> mijk: If you don't mind a tablet instead, most of them that are based on the Texas Instruments Blaze Tablet platform can run linux and have native drivers for the powervr gpu onboard. Need to get an external keyboard then though.
[22:49] <mijk> hmm good to know
[23:08] <askk> hi i installed ubuntu 14.10 on tablet pc hp stream 7 i installed the driver for wifi and touch screen my question how i save the state and size of the virtual keyboard florence on ubunut login any idea ?
[23:09] <askk> hi i installed ubuntu 14.10 on tablet pc x86 hp stream 7 i installed the driver for wifi and touch screen my question how i save the state and size of the virtual keyboard florence on ubunut login any idea ?
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2015-04-10-#ubuntu-us-oh
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[14:10] <jrgifford> Unit193: oh, having fun with network manager?
[14:10] <jrgifford> Every time I have a networking problem, I think to myself "this would be way easier to manage with NM" /sarcasm
[19:17] <Unit193> jrgifford: Hah, whoops. New Maintainer, Debian stuff this time. I flip between connman+cmst and NetworkManager actually. :P
[19:18] <jrgifford> oh
[19:18] <jrgifford> lol
[19:18] <jrgifford> sorry
[19:18] <jrgifford> my dislike of networkmanager is not something I am afraid of voicing. seems i'm in a minority though. :(
[19:18] <Unit193> Nah that's fine. That was my bad, NM is normally NetworkManager.
[19:19] <Unit193> Well, connman isn't polished in some areas, but it's faster and in other areas better. :P
[19:55] <dzho> ahoy there thafreak
[21:31] <Unit193> Darkwing: You expired from Ubuntu members?
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ubuntu-chat
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2015-04-10-#launchpad
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[01:16] <orion> Hi. Where can I find a good guide on creating a package from a git repository and uploading it to a PPA?
[01:21] <wgrant> orion: http://packaging.ubuntu.com/html/ and https://help.launchpad.net/Packaging/PPA should tell you what you need to know.
[01:23] <orion> I don't want to use Bazzar for source control.
[01:24] <orion> I want to use git.
[01:25] <teward> um... that packaging guide explains both... sorta.
[01:25] <wgrant> orion: The bzr parts of that guide are limited. You can ignore them if you don't want to use bzr.
[01:25] <teward> ^ that
[01:26] <wgrant> https://wiki.debian.org/PackagingWithGit has some git-specific bits.
[05:13] <grepper> this page has a dead link: https://help.launchpad.net/Packaging/PPA/Copying ( https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-mobile/+archive/ppa/+copy-packages )
[05:14] <StevenK> I wouldn't copy from the ubuntu-mobile PPA :-P
[05:15] <grepper> I was trying to figure out how you can have support for more than one ubuntu version for your ppa
[05:15] <grepper> how is that done?
[05:16] <grepper> for example the packages I have install on 14.04 -> vivid
[05:16] <grepper> (as vivid stands now)
[05:22] <grepper> ah, found a 'copy packages' link
[05:24] <grepper> thanks :)
[05:46] <grepper> I should probably move where my code lives after finding out this fact of the packages working on all these ubuntu releases. Right now its https://code.launchpad.net/~grepper/ubuntu/trusty/tovid/tovid-0.35.0_branch. Is that too problematic to bother with ?
[05:56] <wgrant> grepper: Package branches are always associated with a particular release, so I'm not sure there's anywhere better to move it if you want a single branch for all of them.
[05:57] <grepper> okay, thanks
[05:57] <grepper> the ppa doesn't have 'trusty' in it so its not really going to cause confusion I don't think
[05:58] <wgrant> grepper: What do you mean?
[05:58] <wgrant> I see a package for trusty in your PPA.
[06:00] <grepper> wgrant: no, I mean there is no 'trusty' in the url as in the one I was concerned about. Its fine
[06:00] <grepper> both are fine with me , just wanted to ask if I was doing it the right way.
[06:00] <wgrant> grepper: Right, a single PPA can provide packages for all Ubuntu releases.
[06:00] <wgrant> It's very rare that you'd create a separate PPA for each release.
[06:01] <grepper> right
[06:01] <grepper> is it usual to have all the package names the same regardless of target release?
[06:02] <wgrant> Yes, otherwise upgrades wouldn't work.
[06:02] <grepper> okay
[06:03] <wgrant> If the same binaries work on each release (they'd mostly stop working due to library ABI breaks), it's OK to copy them up to newer series.
[06:03] <wgrant> But if they need to be rebuilt (eg. because libav changed its soname), you'll need to upload multiple versions.
[06:03] <wgrant> If the source doesn't need changes, you'd often just append eg. ~ubuntu14.04.1 to the trusty version.
[06:05] <grepper> okay
[06:06] <grepper> if I upload a new version, do I need to use the web interface to copy them to each release again ?
[06:06] <grepper> or is there a command line interface to that
[06:06] <wgrant> You can use the copy-package tool from lp:ubuntu-archive-tools.
[06:08] <grepper> great, thanks
[06:08] <wgrant> eg. copy-package --from=~grepper/ubuntu/ppa --from-suite=trusty --to-suite=utopic --include-binaries tovid
[06:08] <grepper> thanks for the example
[06:09] <wgrant> (that's just a convenient CLI wrapper around the archive.copyPackages API)
[09:33] <cjwatson> grepper: I've fixed the dead link, thanks.
[19:41] <grepper> np
[19:42] <dobey> p
[19:45] <grepper> Is there a way to sign a package without getting a prompt? I tried ~/.bazaar/authentication.conf
[19:45] <grepper> thanks for the p btw
[19:45] <grepper> nothing like a good p
[19:46] <dobey> it was a math joke
[19:46] <dobey> sign as in gpg?
[19:46] <grepper> yes
[19:47] <dobey> gnome-keyring has support to function as a gpg-agent, so if you've stored the passphrase in the keyring, and the keyring is unlocked, you shouldn't get a prompt; assuming debsign finds your key correctly
[19:50] <grepper> debsign must find it as it prompts for password and signs it
[19:50] <grepper> though I seem to have to enter it twice, maybe that is by design
[19:51] <dobey> probably signing two different things
[19:52] <grepper> ah
[19:53] <grepper> dunno why the gnome-keyring thing isn't working then, it has pam support enabled
[19:55] <dobey> don't know, it works fine here
[22:33] <grepper> fixed, had to jump through a few hoops
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2015-04-10-#kubuntu
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[00:17] <gunndawg> I'm back
[00:17] <davevanloo> welcome back gunndawg
[00:17] <gunndawg> taking it out of SOHO mode or whatever broke everything
[00:18] <gunndawg> and deff. didnt make my ethernet connection work
[00:18] <gunndawg> so it's back on SOHO mode
[00:18] <davevanloo> mhmm.. did you take into account the info i gave about network hardware setup(s)?
[00:20] <gunndawg> ok, sorry, back once again, but yeah taking it out of SOHO mode into Router mode did not work
[00:20] <gunndawg> infact it broke my wifi as well
[00:21] <davevanloo> i figured it would.. as i think you need bridge mode.., which will make it function more or less like a switch then router.., then again.. it had dhcp enabled.. thats why i gave pointers on what to do according to how your network hardware is setup..
[00:22] <davevanloo> basicly.. for modem only to --> router... use router mode and cable going to modem should be in wan.., for modem/router combo's(most modern modems..) it needs bridge mode... with a cable going from router to modem using one of the normal ports and not wan
[00:22] <gunndawg_> I have a router and a modem, separate
[00:23] <davevanloo> how many lan ports does the modem have? or do you know its brand and type? so i could look it up
[00:23] <gunndawg_> with an ethernet going from the modem to the router, standard setup
[00:23] <gunndawg_> the modem is an Arris SB6141
[00:23] <gunndawg_> Router is an Ubiquiti Air Router
[00:24] <gunndawg_> I msut have multiple connections here because I dropped out
[00:25] <davevanloo> black "surfboard" modem.. thats a 1 port modem.. so yes.. router mode.. BUT the cable from modem to router.. needs to be connected to the WAN port of the router ( its usually seperated by more space then the other 4.. )
[00:26] <gunndawg_> that's how it already is
[00:26] <gunndawg_> I've set up routers before, that's standard stuff
[00:26] <gunndawg_> and its in SOHO mode, wireless works fine. When I put it into Router mode both ethernet AND wireless no longer work
[00:26] <davevanloo> jups.., funny thing is.. usually in SOHO mode.. port 1 on the router becomes the wan port and the other 3/4 get dissabled..
[00:27] <gunndawg_> well all I know is that taking it out of SOHO mode makes neither wireless nore ethernet work
[00:27] <gunndawg_> so I have to keep it in SOHO
[00:27] <davevanloo> that would keep wired connections impossible though..
[00:28] <davevanloo> nor is it really kubuntu/linux related :(
[00:28] <gunndawg_> Well Router mode makes both connection types impossible. I just went down that road
[00:28] <gunndawg_> guess I'm stuck on wifi then :(
[00:29] <davevanloo> and you checked all settings? as im just saying.. the problem really lies in the router..
[00:29] <gunndawg_> when I put it into Router mode I cant even access the routers settings via web browser
[00:29] <gunndawg_> so once I put it into Router mode and hit apply, that was it, no connection wireless or ethernet and no getting to the router page
[00:30] <davevanloo> that indicates a IP problem.., so using a manual IP setting to acces it might be worth a try.. also before hitting apply.. check if it changes other setting when you change out of SOHO
[00:30] <gunndawg_> You're not understanding me. I cannot access the router page to see that info when I take it out of SOHO
[00:31] <gunndawg_> going to http://192.168.1.1 just times out
[00:31] <davevanloo> yes.. hence you should put whatever client you have to basics.. aka.. disconnect modem from router.. connect PC via cable to modem.. set a static IP to 192.168.1.X and try again..
[00:33] <davevanloo> basicly.. you cercomvent as many "maybe wrong" settings from the router and see if you can get a connection to it.., go throught its settings.. changing any wrong ones.. and seeying if you can connect properly.. disconnecting the modem from it would make sure it wont interfere somehow..
[00:34] <gunndawg_> I'll try a direct connection to modem and see if Kubuntu picks it up. I'll have to do that a bit later though
[00:34] <gunndawg_> davevanloo: Thanks for all the suggestions :)
[00:35] <davevanloo> gunndawg_ a direct connection to the modem would be a good thing to try to.., i would think.. it would work.. :)
[00:35] <davevanloo> gunndawg_ no problem! :)
[01:36] <davevanloo> allright.. its late.. time to head to bed ;)
[01:36] * davevanloo goes afk
[01:52] <jadergabriel> opa, boa noite
[03:44] <gunndawg> If I'm having rubber banding effects when playing Valve games, would it be beneficial to me or worth trying the 346 drivers?
[03:45] <gunndawg> I'm kind of at a last resort stage
[03:57] <gunndawg> If I'm having rubber banding effects when playing Valve games, would it be beneficial to me or worth trying the 346 drivers?
[04:01] <blas_> hello guys.. i have one problem.. just installed kubuntu 14.04.. but when i boot it doesnt show me boot screen/logo/meno.. just blank screen and after couple seconds just enter in kde desktop.. i installed it on asus kly54 with radeon 6400.. any help please. thanks
[04:41] <Guest50312> i'm in the live environment of kubuntu vivid and the installer crashes with efi computers. any suggestions?
[04:58] <valorie> Guest50312: you might ask in #ubuntu+1
[04:58] <valorie> that said,
[04:58] <valorie> !efi
[04:59] <Guest50312> ty valorie. i am aware of what efi is. i have installed using efi
[04:59] <Guest50312> i have 14.10 installed
[05:01] <valorie> ok, that is the basic link
[05:02] <Guest50312> yeah, but unless it tells me how to work around or fix the installer crashing at efi........
[05:04] <Guest50312> by the way valorie, i already have my bios set up to boot "insecurely"
[05:14] <valorie> Guest50312: support for vivid is in #ubuntu+1
[05:17] <Guest50312> ty valorie. by the way; https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubiquity/+bug/1428877
[05:18] <valorie> triaged, so it will be fixed soon
[05:18] <valorie> good
[05:28] <fcomtois> hey guys, I am experiencing some issues trying to search my samba share using Dolphin
[05:29] <fcomtois> did anyone experience the same issue ?
[06:02] <goddard_> anyone home?
[06:02] <goddard_> i need help with a sound problem
[06:03] <goddard_> i only dont have sound in my browser
[09:18] <dyle> Hi *, I've installed git-flow, which passes me a /usr/lib/git-core/git-flow among others
[09:19] <dyle> is there any policy or best pratcie to get this into my PATH?
[09:19] <lordievader> Good morning.
[09:19] <dyle> should I just ln -s /usr/lib/git-core/git-flow /usr/bin myself?
[09:20] <lordievader> dyle: Why not add /u/l/git-core to your path?
[09:20] <dyle> ok
[09:21] <dyle> just wondered why
[09:21] <lordievader> Probably best to do that in your ~/.profile.
[09:21] <lordievader> But ofcourse you are free to do as you like ;)
[09:22] <dyle> =)
[09:22] <dyle> merci
[09:46] <dyle> @lordievader: for the records I switch to $ ( cd /usr/local/bin; ln -s /usr/lib/git-core/git-flow )
[09:46] <dyle> since git-flow does a export GITFLOW_DIR=$(dirname "$(readlink -e "$0")")
[09:46] <dyle> this does not pollute my .profile, .bashrc or any and works as charm
[09:47] <lordievader> dyle: I know, I do that from time to time, but I usually place them in /bin.
[10:58] <s_20> did the name of the clipboard change in plasma5? and does whatever it is called now not have a dbus interface?
[11:04] <eagles0513875A> hey guys I have been looking around and stumbled on ask ubuntu in regards to adding environmental variables and it seems like things have changed http://askubuntu.com/questions/60218/how-to-add-a-directory-to-my-path
[11:05] <eagles0513875A> where is the best place to export the path to the directory that has what im wanting to add
[11:32] <BluesKaj> Hiyas all
[12:18] <lordievader> eagles0513875A: What do you want to do exactly? Set a variable?
[12:19] <eagles0513875A> lordievader: got it sorted
[12:19] <eagles0513875A> with a simple symlink as its a bug with the software i was trying to run
[13:47] <xennex81> if you have two running wpa_supplicant processes, you can expect trouble :p
[13:47] * genii makes more coffee
[14:41] <Saverio> Hello there
[14:42] <soee_> hiho
[14:42] <lordievader> o/
[14:42] <Saverio> please, do you know how can I install color management (kolor manager and oyranos) in kubuntu?
[14:42] <Saverio> to handle icc profiles?
[14:43] <Saverio> or more in general: do you know a way to load monitor .icc profiles in kubuntu?
[14:44] <soee_> !version
[14:44] <soee_> Saverio: what Kubuntu version are you running ?
[14:45] <Saverio> I have kubuntu 14.10, the stable release (no plasma5)
[14:45] <Saverio> kde 4
[14:46] <Saverio> it would be wonderful if the color management could work with plasma 5 also but... let's start with stable things first :)
[14:47] <Saverio> it's strange that kde developers are not considering the color management...
[14:48] <Erthe> Color management for what?
[14:48] <Saverio> (or at least this is what I know)
[14:48] <lordievader> Saverio: https://userbase.kde.org/Color_Management/en
[14:49] <Saverio> color management for image editing and printing for example
[14:50] <Saverio> I suppose that if you have system wide color management profiles in place, you can have a color calibration with monitor, printer, etc.
[14:50] <Saverio> something similar to gnome color setting
[14:53] <Saverio> lordievader: I looked at that site (https://userbase.kde.org/Color_Management/en) and if you look in the "Requirements" chapter, it's stated that two packages are required (Oyranos Color Management System and Kolor-Manager) but I can't find them in kubuntu repositories
[14:54] <Saverio> do you know if for kubuntu there's a re-packaging for those software modules?
[14:55] <Saverio> or if there exist a PPA with these packages?
[14:56] <lordievader> I thought I had them from packages. Let me check.
[14:57] <Saverio> Thanks a lot lordievader :)
[14:59] <lordievader> Saverio: The oyranos comes from http://archive.getdeb.net/ubuntu/, where the other came from I don't know. Can't really locate the package.
[15:00] <lordievader> Ah, I probably followed: http://timotheegiet.com/blog/floss/using-oyranos-on-kubuntu-12-04.html
[15:00] <Saverio> ok, its a starting point...
[15:22] <bloodytearz> hello guys anyone can help me with one matter regarding kubuntu ?
[15:26] <soee_> bloodytearz: !ask
[15:26] <soee_> !ask
[15:26] <lordievader> soee_: If you want to do that you need to pipe.
[15:27] <lordievader> !helper-snack| soee_
[15:27] <soee_> ;]
[15:28] <lordievader> !helpersnack | soee_
[15:28] <bloodytearz> ok thanks.. i just installed kubuntu on my laptop.. booting live cd was all ok. i have one problem booting now in installed kubuntu.. no boot logo or grub menu.. just blank screen and then goes into kde desktop
[15:28] <lordievader> Sounds like modesettings isn't supported.
[15:29] <lordievader> Try the 'nomodeset' kernel option.
[15:33] <bloodytearz> that helped.. thank you very much :)
[15:51] <krise> I need some advice how to set up boot menu so i can boot from usb. I have 2 pictures how my boot menu is set up. How can i show u helpful people those pictures ?
[15:53] <soee_> krise: set it in bios
[15:53] <davevanloo> often you either select it in bios.., something like boot-overide.., or you hit F8 during the boot process
[15:53] <soee_> put USB or Removeble device (dont know how it is named in your biod) as first booting positin
[15:59] <krise> thats the problem, i dont know which one i have to set first
[16:00] <krise> there is 9 different names doesnt matter if my usb is inserted or not
[16:02] <soee_> well hard ot say for us as we dont know what are the options on the list
[16:06] <rberg> anybody know if anoise can be controlled vie kde? http://anoise.tuxfamily.org/
[16:07] <krise> http://pasteboard.co/2sQLf5Em.jpg
[16:07] <krise> please take a look at this
[16:07] <krise> this is my boot menu
[16:08] <krise> and this
[16:08] <krise> http://pasteboard.co/2sQTtIvt.jpg
[16:08] <rberg> ohh yep there a general gui I missed before
[16:12] <Dragnslcr> krise: it's most likely USB HDD
[16:38] <petersaints> I can't launch a new app instance with the mouse middle click when using the Icons-only Taskbar on KDE Plasma 5, like I was able to do on KDE Plasma 4. Is there any way to achieve this?
[16:39] <krise> that was my guess but the problem is that on the start usb wont load. im tryng to run startup disk with kubuntu vivid beta 2 Dragnslcr
[16:39] <soee_> petersaints: this might not be supported in ported version, try asking on #plasma
[16:40] <petersaints> ok thanks. I didn't know about that channel. I asked on #kde but no one answered.
[16:41] <petersaints> I just upgraded from Utopic to Vivid, and this is the only thing I don't like about Plasma so far.
[16:42] <soee_> :)
[16:44] <petersaints> soee_: Thank god that I just found out that Shift + Left Click launches a new instance
[16:44] <soee_> always something :)
[16:44] <petersaints> I still prefer the middle click but it's better than having to right click and select Start a new instance
[16:46] <petersaints> And I found that there's at least one bug about this: https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=340165
[16:47] <soee_> well there is also explanation why middle click was removed
[16:47] <petersaints> Comment 3 says the reason: https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=340165#c3
[16:48] <petersaints> But I don't agree that much about it. Because on browsers (like Chrome and Firefox) if you middle click a link or a bookmark a new tab is launched.
[17:12] <petersaints> Anyway, I just reported a bug: https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=346049
[17:31] <darthanubis> I do I restart plasmashell?
[19:53] <polish> hello
[19:53] <polish> try to change language for polish in kubuntu but i dont have
[19:53] <polish> how to i upgrade polish package?
[20:03] <polish> some help?
[20:25] <mad_> кто поможет с проблеммкой?
[20:25] <lordievader> !ru | mad_
[20:26] <mad_> thank you
[21:53] <petersaints> I just reported a regression from what I was used to on KDE Plasma 4: https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=346055
[23:21] <Finetundra> Hello everyone, I'm having an odd problem with my video. When I'm playing a game or watching a video my playback will suddenly get choppy and then speed up very quickly and then continue like this till reboot. anyone know a fix for this?
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[06:52] <snappy> Is there a way for upstart to manage spawning N processes of a program, associating them with the same process group?
[13:44] <lnykryn> hi! Is it possible to run initscript with initctl command? My point is that I want pid 1 to actually run the initscript, not user.
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2015-04-10-#snappy
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[09:08] <JamesTait> Good morning all; happy Friday, and happy Siblings Day! :-D
[10:58] <sergiusens> mvo: it's frameworks (list versus string)
[10:58] <sergiusens> mvo: I was going to fix last night but got distracted fixing other things
[10:58] <mvo> sergiusens: yeah, fixed
[10:58] <mvo> sergiusens: no worries
[10:58] <sergiusens> mvo: just removed the line a suppose
[11:11] <sergiusens> mvo: btw, mind looking at my latest u-d-f mps?
[11:11] <mvo> sergiusens: yeah, just removed it
[11:11] <mvo> sergiusens: sure, do you have a url?
[11:11] <mvo> sergiusens: I will need lunch first though
[11:13] <sergiusens> pitti: fwiw, was just trying to know the status on ntp, not sure you were on top of it or who was
[11:14] <sergiusens> mvo: https://code.launchpad.net/goget-ubuntu-touch/+activereviews
[11:14] <pitti> sergiusens: we have timesyncd enabled by default now, AFAIK that was the intended ntp client for snappy?
[11:14] <sergiusens> mvo: the ones from les that 24hrs ago :-)
[11:14] <sergiusens> pitti: oh, it is, great!
[12:58] <lool> sergiusens: how do I use your new beaglebone snap straight from the store?
[13:03] <sergiusens> lool: call it by name
[13:03] <sergiusens> lool: e.g.; beagleboneblack.sergiusens
[13:03] <sergiusens> --oem beagleboneblack.sergiusens
[13:08] <lool> sergiusens: sudo ubuntu-device-flash core \ --platform am335x-boneblack \ --size 4 \ --oem beagleboneblack.sergiusens --developer-mode --channel=ubuntu-core/devel-proposed -o bbb.img
[13:09] <sergiusens> lool: --size is 4 by default
[13:10] <sergiusens> lool: just sudo ubuntu-device-flash core --output bbb.img --channel edge --oem beagleboneblack.sergiusens is enough
[13:10] <sergiusens> lool: I tried to apply sane defaults everywhere to type less
[13:22] <lool> sergiusens: what defines "edge" as a channel?
[13:24] <lool> sergiusens: and how does it figure --platform am335x-boneblack?
[13:25] <lool> (I'd like to do the same for pi)
[13:25] <lool> ok, found channel maps
[13:26] <sergiusens> lool: platform is in the oem snap
[13:26] <sergiusens> lool: the channel maps is a shorthand, (and some form of consistency with the snappy tool)
[13:27] <lool> it kind of feels bad to have this in the tool rather than as server side aliases, but I can see why it's handier for now
[13:29] <beuno> lool, sergiusens, started working on a spec: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1-BFwOcM7yq3feowdAL9SVW5UZkNHiE0q3duXBMUkkyY/edit
[13:30] <sergiusens> lool: I was waiting for the system image rename to happen to make this easier
[13:31] <lool> beuno: I guess you've already seen the naming of the chrome release channels
[13:31] <lool> https://www.chromium.org/getting-involved/dev-channel
[13:31] <lool> it seems we have the same number of channels, but with different names
[13:31] <lool> (that's fine of course)
[13:33] <beuno> lool, we have 1 more! :)
[13:33] <beuno> anyway, its subject to change, it captures the discussions we've had so far
[13:35] <lool> (RaspberryPi2)ubuntu@localhost:~$ sudo snappy install docker_1.5.0.001_multi.snap
[13:35] <lool> Installing docker_1.5.0.001_multi.snap
[13:35] <lool> 2015/04/10 13:34:53 Signature check failed, but installing anyway as requested
[13:35] <lool> mkdir /apps/docker/1.5.0.001/meta/framework-policy: permission denied
[13:35] <lool> unpack docker_1.5.0.001_multi.snap to /apps/docker/1.5.0.001 failed with exit status 1
[13:35] <lool> kickinz1: ^
[13:35] <lool> mvo: ^ does the above sound familiar (snappy go version on image 220 on rpi2)
[13:36] <fionnan> I'm trying to get docker to load a dockerfile on snappy but get the error `2015/04/10 13:32:38 open dockerfile.tar: permission denied` when I try to do it as the ubuntu user and get `sudo: docker: command not found` when I do it with sudo, anyone have any ideas what I could be doing wrong?
[13:37] <kickinz1> fionnan, you need to have your Dockerfile in /home/ubuntu/apps/docker/1.3.xxx/
[13:37] <fionnan> if anyone knows of any docs about using docker on snappy would be great too, I can't seem to find anything :(
[13:38] <fionnan> kickinz1: cool, thanks!
[13:38] <kickinz1> then in this dir you run docker buid...
[13:38] <sergiusens> lool: I think Chipaca is dealing with this
[13:38] <Chipaca> sergiusens: with what?
[13:39] <lool> Chipaca: see above error when installing docker
[13:39] <kickinz1> lool, hdstrand had this yesterday evening, but it was related to a bad docker-daemon.apparmor.
[13:39] <lool> 15:35 < lool> mkdir /apps/docker/1.5.0.001/meta/framework-policy: permission denied
[13:39] <lool> 15:35 < lool> unpack docker_1.5.0.001_multi.snap to /apps/docker/1.5.0.001 failed with exit status 1
[13:39] <fionnan> kickinz1: that fixed it!
[13:39] <lool> kickinz1: I've built the rootfs minutes ago against devel-proposed; how do I get the fix?
[13:39] <Chipaca> lool: that does not look like something i'm doing, no
[13:39] <Chipaca> lool: why did you get permission denied on mkdir?
[13:40] <kickinz1> lool: I will upload a more recent one for you to test, but the one I sent to you was supposed to work
[13:40] <Chipaca> ooh, wait, that might be me
[13:40] * Chipaca looks a bit deeper
[13:40] <sergiusens> mvo: jodh I got this weird problem when upgrading from d-p to devel-proposed http://paste.ubuntu.com/10791611/
[13:41] <lool> kickinz1: I have beagle up too
[13:41] <Chipaca> lool: so, that error itself is not me afaict, but i'd be interested in knowing how you got there
[13:41] <lool> ubuntu-core 2015-04-10 220
[13:41] <Chipaca> lool: are the permissions in the docker tar wrong?
[13:41] <lool> Chipaca: I dont know, I can check
[13:42] <Chipaca> lool: please
[13:42] <lool> Chipaca: look alright to me
[13:42] <lool> Chipaca: http://paste.ubuntu.com/10791622/
[13:43] <Chipaca> yep, those lok alright
[13:43] <Chipaca> look*
[13:45] <Chipaca> lool: do you have anything in dmesg?
[13:45] <sergiusens> Chipaca: remember that snappy calls unpack with reduced privs
[13:46] <Chipaca> sergiusens: but i don't see any reason for a mkdir at random to fail on unpack, which is what's reported here
[13:48] <jodh> sergiusens: it's an upgrader bug resulting from the recent rework. Fixing...
[13:50] <Chipaca> lool: so, i don't know where/how you're trying to make that work, but i just tested the docker thing locally and it installed without a hitch
[13:50] <Chipaca> lool: so i'd really like to know more :)
[13:50] <lool> [ 64.460170] audit: type=1400 audit(1428673111.960:6): apparmor="STATUS" operation="profile_load" profile="unconfined" name="system-status.victor_system-status_1.0.3" pid=805 comm="apparmor_parser"
[13:50] <lool> [ 66.848594] audit: type=1400 audit(1428673114.348:7): apparmor="STATUS" operation="profile_load" profile="unconfined" name="pastebinit.mvo_pastebinit_1.4.0.0.1" pid=805 comm="apparmor_parser"
[13:51] <lool> [ 86.906565] audit: type=1400 audit(1428673134.408:8): apparmor="DENIED" operation="capable" profile="system-status.victor_system-status_1.0.3" pid=884 comm="system-status" capability=12 capname="net_admin"
[13:51] <lool> are the only dmesg bits
[13:51] <Chipaca> lool: dmesg -T will give you saner timestamps, for next time :)
[13:51] <Chipaca> none of those seem relevant to docker
[13:51] <lool> good to know
[13:51] <lool> Chipaca: no
[13:52] <lool> Chipaca: would also be surprized that snappy install would run confined
[13:52] <lool> so mkdir failing is weird
[13:52] <lool> Chipaca: I'll test on BBB in a few, with an updated snap
[13:53] <Chipaca> lool: what are you testing on, here?
[13:53] <lool> Chipaca: oh sorry, dmesg is from wrong board
[13:53] <Chipaca> lool: is this the same vm that was saying "no space left on device"?
[13:53] <lool> I actually reinstalled since
[13:54] <lool> Chipaca: so yes, it is from same vm
[13:54] <lool> Chipaca: and I think the issue is missing modules
[13:54] <lool> [Fri Apr 10 13:00:10 2015] systemd-journald[458]: Failed to create new runtime journal: No space left on device
[13:54] <lool> probably lack of tmpfs
[13:54] <lool> right, lsmod is empty
[13:54] <lool> the modules are there in rootfs, but not initrd
[13:54] * lool goes updating
[13:55] <Chipaca> lool: so it looks like that vm is otherwise fubar'ed
[13:56] <lool> yeah
[13:56] <Chipaca> lool: if you can reproduce the issue with a vm that is not already broken let me know :)
[13:56] <Chipaca> i really think we need a "sanity check" command in snappy
[13:56] <Chipaca> ... but there's so much more stuff we need :)
[14:02] <lool> bah I foobarded the initrd
[14:06] <lool> /sbin/udevadm: line 2: ��HL�F�k���@�������
[14:06] <lool> somehow not good
[14:06] <lool> /sbin/udevadm: line 1: ELF: not found
[14:08] <lool> ppisati: sorry, mind reminding me how to properly repack initrd? I gunzip-ed | cpio -i, and am repacking with find . | cpio --quiet --dereference -o -H newc | lzma -7 > ../new-initrd.lz
[14:08] <lool> well, I'll start with gzip
[14:08] <eltigre> is it possible to develop/tinker on snappy core on raspberry pi without a second raspberry pi running ubuntu?
[14:12] <ogra_> lool, abootimg-unpack-initrd ... abootimg-pack-initrd
[14:12] <ogra_> we have helpers for this ;)
[14:15] <lool> ok, managed to repack initrd
[14:15] <lool> ogra_: thanks
[14:15] <lool> it was actually my unpacking which was incorrect
[14:15] <lool> (forgot -d to cpio)
[14:15] <lool> I still get [ 50.591157] systemd-journald[399]: Failed to create new runtime journal: No space left on device
[14:17] <lool> ppisati: so for some reason the modules dep were out of date
[14:22] <lool> I still get the dreaded [ 50.525271] systemd-journald[332]: Failed to create new runtime journal: No space left on device
[14:22] <eltigre> I don't see any information about "cross compiling" or porting applications to raspi/snappy, so maybe it isn't that easy
[14:23] <lool> eltigre: http://hypernephelist.com/2015/03/09/cross-compilation-made-easy-on-ubuntu-with-sbuild.html
[14:23] <lool> eltigre: it depends *what* you're cross-compiling though
[14:23] <lool> eltigre: I typically did all the MWC snaps with cross-compilation
[14:24] <lool> go / C / C++ ones mainly
[14:24] <lool> but sometimes it can be a pain
[14:24] <eltigre> I would be using python
[14:24] <lool> eltigre: are there native bits?
[14:24] <eltigre> I think I will go the raspbian route for the foreseeable future
[14:24] <eltigre> maybe
[14:25] <lool> eltigre: I'm not sure why it would be any easier with raspian
[14:25] <eltigre> it's pretty easy to run into C extensions you didn't expect in Python nowadays
[14:25] <lool> *raspbian
[14:25] <eltigre> it compiles stuff
[14:25] <eltigre> slowly, but it does
[14:25] <eltigre> and it has a package manager, unlike snappy
[14:25] <lool> we do have a package manage, it's snappy! :-)
[14:26] <eltigre> no, that's an application manager
[14:26] <lool> eltigre: right, we dont have snaps for a build environment
[14:26] <eltigre> the difference being that you have to somehow get your dependencies in the app itself, as far as I understand it
[14:26] <lool> that's right
[14:27] <lool> kickinz1: ok, I managed to install docker on rpi2 now
[14:27] <eltigre> which is on one hand a very good idea, but on the other... well... unfamiliar and currently much more work
[14:27] <lool> eltigre: I think that's about right
[14:28] <lool> it's less familiar and more work right now
[14:28] <lool> but it pays off in the end
[14:28] <lool> eltigre: you can have an Ubuntu chroot on a snappy install where you do the builds
[14:28] <kickinz1> lool: ok, I have a new package for you then.
[14:28] <lool> or a qemu-arm schroot on your desktop (above blog post) or cross-build stuff
[14:28] <eltigre> problem is, I'm not that familiar with the chrooting stuff... I hardly even grokked docker
[14:28] <lool> eltigre: now specifically for python, you'd want to grab barry who's worked exactly on this topic
[14:29] <lool> eltigre: https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/snappy-devel/2015-April/000428.html
[14:29] <eltigre> thanks
[14:30] <lool> kickinz1: does it intentionally have the exact same name as the previous one?
[14:31] <lool> 2015/04/10 14:31:01 Signature check failed, but installing anyway as requested
[14:31] <lool> open /apps/docker/1.5.0.001/meta/docker-daemon.seccomp: permission denied
[14:31] <lool> unpack docker_1.5.0.001_multi (1).snap to /apps/docker/1.5.0.001 failed with exit status 1
[14:31] <jdstrand> that's weird
[14:31] <lool> kickinz1, jdstrand: The older snap installs fine though
[14:32] <jdstrand> lool: this might be because you are installing the same version over other?
[14:32] <kickinz1> lool: on bbb?
[14:32] <lool> kickinz1: both on rpi2
[14:32] <lool> jdstrand: maybe
[14:32] <lool> jdstrand: I had snappy removed though
[14:32] <jdstrand> lool: what is ls -l /apps/docker/1.5.0.001/meta/
[14:33] <lool> right now after successful install of old snap: http://paste.ubuntu.com/10791980/
[14:33] * lool removes
[14:33] <jdstrand> that looks fine
[14:33] <lool> now /apps/docker exists but is empty
[14:33] <jdstrand> lool: do ls -l after removal too
[14:34] <jdstrand> ok, that is what I've seen
[14:34] <lool> now installing again the new one
[14:34] <lool> I've renamed it to drop the " (1)" in the filename
[14:34] <lool> ah that worked
[14:34] <lool> jdstrand: was just a filename issue
[14:34] <jdstrand> ok cool
[14:35] <lool> now I got http://paste.ubuntu.com/10791992/
[14:35] <kickinz1> jdstrand seems ok on bb for me
[14:35] <lool> kickinz1: ok, installed latest snap on pi2; what do I confirm?
[14:36] <kickinz1> lool: docker run -it armbuild/ubuntu
[14:36] <kickinz1> on the container just try some things like: "apt-get update && apt-get upgrade"
[14:36] <lool> FATA[0000] Post http:///var/run/docker.sock/v1.17/containers/create: dial unix /var/run/docker.sock: no such file or directory. Are you trying to connect to a TLS-enabled daemon without TLS?
[14:36] <kickinz1> then docker stop "id of the container"
[14:37] * lool removes docker, and grabs latest package
[14:37] <kickinz1> lool, sudo systemctl status docker_docker-daemon_1.5.0.001.service
[14:38] <lool> kickinz1: switching to your latest snap first
[14:38] <kickinz1> lool ok
[14:39] <lool> installing
[14:40] <lool> Process: 1347 ExecStop=/apps/docker/1.5.0.001/bin/docker.stop (code=exited, status=0/SUCCESS)
[14:40] <lool> Process: 1319 ExecStart=/apps/docker/1.5.0.001/bin/docker.start (code=exited, status=1/FAILURE)
[14:41] <kickinz1> lool, can you paste the tailed output of "sudo journalctl -l"
[14:41] <jdstrand> lool: you may have a stray docker running from before
[14:42] <lool> kickinz1: cloud-init stuff only
[14:42] <lool> jdstrand: yeah, that's what I think too
[14:43] <lool> I dont see it in ps though
[14:43] * lool reboots
[14:45] <lool> uh -bash: docker: command not found
[14:46] <lool> Loaded: not-found (Reason: No such file or directory)
[14:47] <lool> I dont see the systemd service file under /etc/systemd/system
[14:51] <lool> ok. trying BBB now
[14:51] <lool> ok, docker is running
[14:51] <lool> $ docker run -it armbuild/ubuntu
[14:51] <lool> Unable to find image 'armbuild/ubuntu:latest' locally
[14:51] <lool> Pulling repository armbuild/ubuntu
[14:52] <lool> it's doign stuff
[14:52] <lool> kickinz1: So not tested in full on BBB, but seems mostly working
[14:52] <kickinz1> lool, ok, thanks!
[14:53] <lool> would love some help debugging the isuse on rpi2
[14:53] <lool> I'm removing docker snap, will search for stray files, and reboot
[15:01] <lool> Active: failed (Result: exit-code) since Fri 2015-04-10 15:01:17 UTC; 13s ago
[15:01] <lool> Process: 1033 ExecStopPost=/apps/docker/1.5.0.001/bin/docker.poststop (code=exited, status=0/SUCCESS)
[15:01] <lool> Process: 1003 ExecStart=/apps/docker/1.5.0.001/bin/docker.start (code=exited, status=1/FAILURE)
[15:02] <lool> /apps/docker/1.5.0.001/bin/docker.start: line 14: /home/ubuntu/etc/docker.conf: No such file or directory
[15:02] <lool> /apps/docker/1.5.0.001/bin/docker.start: line 32: docker: command not found
[15:03] <lool> FATA[0000] open /var/run/docker.pid: permission denied
[15:05] <lool> jdstrand: what's the magic to force regenerating the profiles? probably because I installed multiple snaps with same version
[15:05] <lool> [Fri Apr 10 15:04:36 2015] audit: type=1400 audit(1428678276.674:17): apparmor="DENIED" operation="mknod" profile="docker_docker_1.5.0.001" name="/run/docker.pid" pid=1185 comm="docker.armhf" requested_mask="c" denied_mask="c" fsuid=0 ouid=0
[15:05] <jdstrand> lool: sudo aa-clickhook -f ; sudo aa-profile-hook -f
[15:05] <lool> thanks
[15:06] <lool> jdstrand: I still get: [Fri Apr 10 15:05:58 2015] audit: type=1400 audit(1428678358.915:21): apparmor="DENIED" operation="mknod" profile="docker_docker_1.5.0.001" name="/run/docker.pid" pid=1209 comm="docker.armhf" requested_mask="c" denied_mask="c" fsuid=0 ouid=0
[15:06] <jdstrand> kickinz1: ah-- ^
[15:06] <lool> that's only on pi2 though
[15:06] <jdstrand> we have this rule:
[15:06] <jdstrand> /run/@{APP_PKGNAME}.pid rw,
[15:07] <lool> jdstrand: note that I'm running this by hand because the job fails to start
[15:07] <jdstrand> but APP_PKGNAME is 'docker-daemon'
[15:07] <lool> aha
[15:07] <kickinz1> jdstrand, I don't understand how it works on bbb as it is also running docker.armhf.
[15:08] <jdstrand> that isn't the part
[15:08] <jdstrand> name="/run/docker.pid"
[15:08] <jdstrand> we have:
[15:08] <jdstrand> @{APP_APPNAME}="docker-daemon"
[15:08] <jdstrand> /run/@{APP_PKGNAME}.pid rw,
[15:08] <jdstrand> oh wait
[15:08] <jdstrand> no, that is right, I misread it
[15:09] <lool> [Fri Apr 10 15:07:34 2015] device-mapper: table: 254:0: thin-pool: unknown target type
[15:09] <lool> [Fri Apr 10 15:07:34 2015] device-mapper: ioctl: error adding target to table
[15:09] <lool> that seems to be the actual error from the job
[15:09] <lool> ppisati: ^
[15:09] <jdstrand> oh this is the docker command
[15:09] <jdstrand> kickinz1: hold on
[15:10] <lool> jdstrand: I suspect it's non-fatal
[15:10] <jdstrand> yes
[15:10] <jdstrand> it is
[15:10] <lool> so annoying, but systemd cleans things up
[15:10] <ppisati> it refers to this: drivers/md/dm-thin.c:
[15:10] <jdstrand> interesting that amd64 didn't need it
[15:11] <lool> ppisati: is it built in your rpi2 kernel?
[15:11] <ppisati> lool: do you have that module?
[15:11] <ppisati> no idea
[15:11] <lool> ppisati: what's the module name?
[15:12] <lool> DM_THIN_PROVISIONING
[15:12] <lool> ppisati: # CONFIG_DM_THIN_PROVISIONING is not set
[15:12] <lool> ppisati: I blame it all on you!
[15:12] <ppisati> obj-$(CONFIG_DM_THIN_PROVISIONING) += dm-thin-pool.o
[15:12] <ppisati> :)
[15:12] <lool> ppisati: could you make sure this is part of our "Ubuntu standard options that always turned on"?
[15:12] <ppisati> YES YES WHIP ME WHIPE!!! :D
[15:13] <ppisati> yeppa
[15:13] <ppisati> i can kick a new build
[15:13] <ppisati> right now
[15:13] <lool> ppisati: and coud you rebuild a rpi2 kernel with all interesting options we usually want turned on?
[15:13] <lool> thanks
[15:13] <ppisati> lool: we already have all the interesting options turned on
[15:13] <ppisati> lool: this one wasn't part of it
[15:13] <lool> kickinz1: so I think we wont hit the time for the pi2 demo, but we at least know how to get there and we seem close enough that we would have one, say, monday
[15:13] * ppisati goes and kick a new build
[15:13] <jdstrand> lool: when did you see that? when the service was correctly running or when it wasn't?
[15:13] <lool> jdstrand: that was on the rpi2
[15:14] <jdstrand> was docker-daemon running?
[15:14] <lool> jdstrand: trying to run the service by hand to trigger
[15:14] <lool> jdstrand: no
[15:14] <jdstrand> ah
[15:14] <jdstrand> right, then that is correctly denied
[15:14] <lool> jdstrand: actually on BBB I see *nothing*
[15:14] <lool> jdstrand: so I guess it's not something you'd want to worry about
[15:15] <lool> I guess side effect of me launching teh job by hand somehow
[15:15] <jdstrand> lool: to start by hand, do sudo aa-exec -p docker_docker-daemon_1.5.0.001 -- /apps/docker/current/bin/docker.armhf ...
[15:15] <lool> thanks
[15:16] <jdstrand> lool: if you use 'docker' by hand, you get the 'docker cli command' and policy from /apps/bin
[15:16] <lool> thanks
[15:16] <jdstrand> lool: but you want to run docker as a daemon, so you need to start it under that profile
[15:16] <jdstrand> kickinz1: nothing to be done
[15:16] <jdstrand> at least policy wise
[15:16] <lool> ppisati: poke when you have a new PPA kernel, I'll update my device tarball with it
[15:16] <ppisati> lool: yep
[15:17] <lool> ppisati: I can update the initrd too; not quite sure how to generate the modules dep without booting a pi2 and running depmod -a though
[15:17] <ppisati> lool: but do you actually need the modules during boot? i don't think so
[15:18] <lool> ppisati: I dont think so, but I'm trying to keep them up-to-date nevertheless
[15:18] <lool> ppisati: besides, I'm including the deps in the device tarball rootfs part
[15:25] <mvo> jdstrand: thanks again for the pointer to the unconfined profile, I created http://paste.ubuntu.com/10792277/ now, but it seems it does not like the last line I added "change_profile" - is the syntax here different?
[15:27] <mvo> jdstrand: aha, it seems like "change_profile -> *" is the right one (?)
[15:27] <jdstrand> change_profile -> *,
[15:27] <mvo> thanks! that helped me a lot
[15:27] * mvo hugs jdstrand
[15:27] <jdstrand> but, if you did want to confine this, you can do stuff like
[15:27] <jdstrand> change_profile -> docker_*,
[15:27] * jdstrand hugs mvo back :)
[15:28] <asac> ogra_: around?
[15:28] <ogra_> asac, in a meeting, but around, yeah
[15:28] <asac> ogra_: can you check in on #snappy-internal ?
[15:28] <asac> for a moment
[15:32] <kirkland> ogra_: hi, I'm here
[15:32] <ogra_> hey kirkland
[15:33] <kirkland> ogra_: okay, we're getting started
[15:41] <ppisati> lool: it's baking - https://launchpad.net/~p-pisati/+archive/ubuntu/embedded/+packages
[15:49] <jdstrand> beuno: hey, so in the store, you can upload a snap but there is no way to choose an architecture any more?
[15:49] <jdstrand> beuno: kickinz1 is uploading docker and in the yaml it has: architecture: [amd64, armhf]
[15:50] <jdstrand> beuno: that's fine. but then it comes up as arch all in the store, but it isn't 'all', it is 'multi' and only 'multi' for two archs, not all of them
[15:52] <ppisati> jdstrand: same error i had for wget
[15:52] <jdstrand> interesting
[15:53] <jdstrand> maybe the store needs a little tweaking
[16:22] <jdstrand> beuno (and kickinz1 and ppisati): I adjusted the review tools to match what the store is currently doing so this shouldn't happen again
[16:23] <jdstrand> well, once the store is updated
[16:23] <kickinz1> jdstrand, ok thanks
[16:25] <ppisati> jdstrand: what are these tools?
[16:26] <jdstrand> ppisati: they are the things that run during snappy build and what runs on the server
[16:26] <jdstrand> lp:click-reviewers-tools
[16:27] <ppisati> jdstrand: jdstrand that means i shall rebuild and resubmit? or do i still need for a store update? i guess the latter
[16:27] <ppisati> *need to wait
[16:29] <jdstrand> ppisati: no, you don't need to do anything
[16:29] <jdstrand> the next time you upload, if the store has pulled in my change, you won't have that review tool error
[16:34] <kirkland> ubuntu@localhost:~$ sudo snappy update
[16:34] <kirkland> ubuntu-core 124 MB [[16:34] <kirkland> I've been stuck after that for 10+ minutes now
[16:34] <kirkland> help?
[16:35] <kickinz1> kirkland on which board?
[16:35] <kirkland> kickinz1: rpi2
[16:35] <kickinz1> channel is devel-proposed?
[16:35] <kirkland> kickinz1: how can I tell?
[16:36] <kickinz1> kirkland: I don't have rpi2, sorry
[16:36] <kirkland> kickinz1: how can I tell what channel?
[16:36] <kickinz1> kirkland: cat/etc/syste-image/channel.ini
[16:36] <kirkland> okay, it's applying now
[16:36] <kickinz1> kirkland: if channel is ubuntu-core/devel
[16:37] <kickinz1> kirkland, you will need to 'sudo mount -o remount rw /'
[16:37] <kickinz1> kirkland, change channel to ubuntu-core/devel-proposed, then reboot, then update
[16:38] <kickinz1> kirkland, but from me it is theory (as done on bbb), better have an anwer from an rpi2 owner
[16:39] <kirkland> kickinz1: okay
[16:39] <kirkland> kickinz1: can I just snappy install docker now?
[16:39] <kickinz1> kirkland, if on new image : yes
[16:40] <kirkland> kickinz1: okay, i'm updated now, rebooting
[16:40] <kirkland> kickinz1: where can I just download the latest rpi2 image now?
[16:40] <kickinz1> kirkland, but I don't know the status of docker on rpi2, I didn't get updates on that
[16:42] <kickinz1> kirkland, what 'snappy list' looks like?
[16:42] <kirkland> snappy: error: invalid choice: 'list' (choose from 'info', 'versions', 'search', 'update-versions', 'update', 'rollback', 'install', 'uninstall', 'tags', 'config', 'build', 'booted', 'chroot', 'framework', 'fake-version', 'nap')
[16:42] <kickinz1> kirkland, ok old image
[16:43] <kirkland> kickinz1: where can I get the new image?
[16:43] <kirkland> kickinz1: why didn't snappy update get me the new image?
[16:43] <kickinz1> kirkland, cause latest image is not yet promoted
[16:43] <kickinz1> kirkland, I would go for channel change/ or backup solution is to use a docker-1.5.0-armhf for old image
[16:44] <kirkland> kickinz1: channel: ubuntu-core/devel
[16:44] <kickinz1> jdstrand, asac, ^
[16:45] <kickinz1> kirkland, try this package: https://mifamofi.net/owncloud/public.php?service=files&t=c2d37c5711ef8b323ac3da519142e21d
[16:45] <sergiusens> kickinz1: kirkland rpi has no upgrade path until we have a proper kernel in our repos
[16:45] <jdstrand> kirkland: someone said earlier it took 20 minutes
[16:45] <kirkland> kickinz1: okay, I'm on devel-proposed now
[16:45] <jdstrand> ok good
[16:45] <jdstrand> if on devel-proposed, use the store
[16:45] <asac> kirkland: lool has made an image prebuilt for you
[16:46] <kirkland> asac: link?
[16:46] <asac> in your inbox ;)
[16:46] * asac looks it up
[16:46] <sergiusens> he sent an email
[16:46] <kirkland> got it
[16:46] <asac> kirkland: you cnanot update on the pi2 from alpha2 or even after because its nota certified enablement
[16:46] <asac> so just install the one you have
[16:47] <asac> new builds at least dont try to update
[16:48] <kirkland> custom.img 09-Apr-2015 16:01 3.6G
[16:48] <asac> kirkland: wget http://people.canonical.com/~lool/pi2-device-and-oem/custom.img
[16:48] <asac> dd it
[16:48] <asac> yeah
[16:48] <kirkland> asac: I don't have enough bandwidth to pull that here
[16:48] <asac> kirkland: ok i can xz it
[16:48] <asac> one moment
[16:49] <asac> lool: i have to wget that because you are not on lillypitty?
[16:50] <asac> weird
[16:50] <asac> or you have weird permissions
[16:50] <asac> lool: could you .xz this ... assuing it will be popular for the moment?
[16:50] <asac> and put checksums ni place
[16:52] <asac> kirkland: i am xz'ing here rifght now: http://people.canonical.com/~asac/tmp/pi2/
[16:52] <asac> takes a it
[16:52] <asac> bit
[16:55] <jdstrand> asac: you don't have to wget it
[16:55] <asac> i couldnt copy it from ~lool
[16:55] <jdstrand> I logged into lillypilly and can see it
[16:56] <asac> lool has always special permissions
[16:56] <asac> hehe
[16:56] <asac> ok
[16:56] <jdstrand> I didn't try copying
[16:56] <asac> maybe i mistyped
[16:56] <asac> but i have it now anyway
[16:56] <jdstrand> ok
[16:56] <ogra_> "french permissions"
[16:56] <jdstrand> hehe
[16:59] <asac> man xz is so slow
[16:59] <asac> i thinkk my 3.6G wget will finish before it finish packing
[17:02] <kirkland> asac: okay, thanks
[17:02] <kirkland> asac: is ogra_ still around, or gone?
[17:02] <kirkland> asac: we're also trying the node-snapper stuff right now
[17:02] <ogra_> kirkland, i'm here
[17:02] <kirkland> ogra_: alright!!!
[17:03] <ogra_> kirkland, moving to the living room though ... i.e. no internal channels anymore :)
[17:03] <kirkland> ogra_: can you post your metadata.yaml from your node-snapper example?
[17:03] <asac> lool: http://people.canonical.com/~asac/tmp/pi2/custom.img.xz
[17:03] <asac> i think its fine
[17:03] <asac> kirkland: http://people.canonical.com/~asac/tmp/pi2/custom.img.xz
[17:03] <asac> err its finished
[17:03] <asac> i will try too now
[17:04] <asac> guess my bandwidth is faster so i know if it doesntw ork beffore you
[17:04] <asac> kirkland: ogra will be around if you continue to engage him :)
[17:04] <kirkland> asac: awesome, thanks
[17:04] <asac> he is just sometimes falling asleep if he is idling too long :P
[17:04] <kirkland> http://paste.ubuntu.com/10792912/
[17:04] <kirkland> docker failed to install here ^
[17:05] <asac> kirkland: on what machine?
[17:05] <asac> what image?
[17:05] <kirkland> asac: rpi2, devel-proposed, up to date
[17:05] <kirkland> asac: I'm downloading your custom.img now
[17:05] <asac> kirkland: how did you get it up tod date?
[17:05] <asac> i dont think you can have that
[17:05] <kirkland> asac: arg
[17:05] <asac> because update doesnt work on pi2 by design
[17:05] <asac> i think you have it just on the other partition, but still boot in the old one
[17:06] <asac> kirkland: sure it will be better on the lools if its installing on the bbb latest
[17:06] <asac> i am dding that custom one too now... lets see
[17:06] <kirkland> asac: okay, in 7-8 minutes, the download will complete and I can write that image to the sdcard
[17:06] <ogra_> kirkland, sorry, had to re-locate and now i'm missing backlog, you wanted the metadata.yaml ?
[17:07] <kirkland> ogra_: yes, please
[17:07] <asac> yeah i will hopefully be able to confirm by then... though its the first time i put this pi2 in action
[17:07] <sergiusens> beuno: can oem snaps not require "departments" on upload?
[17:07] <kirkland> asac: can you please pastebin it for us?
[17:07] <sergiusens> beuno: and can we have a filter to search for package type?
[17:07] <ogra_> kirkland, hmm, i dont have such a file ... i have a package.yaml though
[17:08] <kirkland> ogra_: yes, that one, please
[17:08] <asac> kirkland: what do you need pastebinit?
[17:08] <kirkland> asac: package.yaml of a nodejs snap
[17:09] <kirkland> asac: sorry, that was for ogra_
[17:09] <asac> right
[17:09] <asac> just wondered :)
[17:09] <asac> ogra_: ^
[17:09] <kirkland> ogra_: can you please pastebin your package.yaml
[17:09] <ogra_> kirkland, http://paste.ubuntu.com/10792959/
[17:10] <ogra_> kirkland, https://code.launchpad.net/~ogra/+junk/chatroom has allteh files btw (linkedfrom the blog)
[17:13] <kirkland> asac: image downloaded
[17:14] <kirkland> ogra_: okay, that branch is missing the arm tarball, right?
[17:14] <kirkland> ogra_: I still need to unzip that?
[17:14] <ogra_> yes, thats only the packaging data
[17:14] <ogra_> the tarballs you crate with node-snapper
[17:14] <ogra_> *create
[17:15] <asac> kirkland: so i dded it
[17:15] <asac> it boots
[17:15] <asac> i am logged in
[17:15] <kirkland> asac: I'm dd'ing now
[17:15] <asac> (RaspberryPi2)ubuntu@localhost:~$
[17:15] <kirkland> asac: can you snappy install docker?
[17:16] <asac> mvo: http://paste.ubuntu.com/10793006/
[17:16] <asac> kirkland: :(
[17:16] <asac> kickinz1: ^^
[17:17] <kirkland> asac: that looks exactly like what I saw before: http://paste.ubuntu.com/10792912/
[17:17] <kickinz1> asac snappy list ?
[17:17] <kickinz1> kirkland, yes but you had a snappy-python image
[17:18] <mvo> asac: uff, let me look
[17:19] <asac> lool: oem snap is also bogus
[17:19] <asac> where is the soruce?
[17:19] <asac> you have the xz data thingy
[17:20] <kickinz1> asac, can you test docker-1.5.0-armhf for old image (https://mifamofi.net/owncloud/public.php?service=files&t=c2d37c5711ef8b323ac3da519142e21d)?
[17:20] <asac> kickinz1: the old image i am not really interested in
[17:20] <asac> many things wont work for folks there
[17:20] <kickinz1> asac, ok sorry...
[17:20] <asac> kickinz1: can you focus on the new one? does the new docker work on the bbb?
[17:21] <asac> the one from store?
[17:21] <kickinz1> asac, yes docker work on bbb from the store
[17:21] <kirkland> asac: dd done
[17:21] <asac> you wont be happy though
[17:21] <kickinz1> asac, and I'm focused on the new image, I was just speaking of a backup on rpi2
[17:21] <asac> i am tewsting now if the bbb works
[17:22] <asac> right, but i think kirkland wont be happy with that because then lots of other issues will pop up
[17:23] <sergiusens> mvo or jdstrand: when you have a minute please https://myapps.developer.ubuntu.com/dev/click-apps/2275
[17:23] <asac> lool: where did you put your oem snap source? that needs to be rebuilt with latest snappy so i can create a new image
[17:24] <asac> mvo: i dont get why docker is in the store as com.ubuntu...
[17:24] <mvo> sergiusens, jdstrand: approved
[17:25] <mvo> asac: me neither
[17:25] <kirkland> asac: that image is not booting for me
[17:25] <sergiusens> asac: I rebuilt lool's pkg here, I can upload it under my namespace for play if you want
[17:25] <asac> kirkland: it does for me thats for sure
[17:25] <asac> kirkland: it takes a while on first boot
[17:25] <asac> because of funky cloud-init
[17:25] <sergiusens> asac: or do it yourself, unpack it (dpkg-deb) and snappy build it again
[17:25] <kirkland> asac: okay, i'll wait a bit
[17:25] <asac> 2-3 minutes
[17:26] <kirkland> asac: hmm, it's been more like 5
[17:26] <asac> sergiusens: i want his .snap on people
[17:26] <asac> sergiusens: not store
[17:26] <asac> or is it in store?
[17:26] <sergiusens> asac: right, but you can dpkg-deb -x it and snappy build it again, it will be very similar if not the same (timestamps differing)
[17:26] <asac> sergiusens: just gimme the new snap
[17:26] <sergiusens> asac: he asked me about that, not sure he uploaded
[17:26] <asac> this one breaks trusty snappy soo i cannot see if a newer image works
[17:27] <asac> its not
[17:27] <asac> at least not as pi2.lool
[17:27] <asac> mvo: well, but why does snappy install docker do the right thing?
[17:27] <asac> do we have an alias there?
[17:27] <asac> kickinz1: how do you upload the docker ?
[17:27] <asac> whats in the metadata>?
[17:27] <asac> you must not use com.ubuntu... anymore
[17:27] <sergiusens> asac: there's the com.ubuntu.snappy hack for the py version in devel
[17:27] <asac> sure
[17:27] <sergiusens> it might be legacy
[17:28] <asac> but it just works here on snappy latest
[17:28] <asac> i type snappy install docker
[17:28] <asac> and it starts downloading com.ubuntu...
[17:28] <asac> so the store must have set an alias
[17:28] <kickinz1> I just went to the store and updated the package from there....
[17:28] <sergiusens> asac: I'm not sure kickinz1 has access to the .canonical part of the store; mvo and I do fwiw
[17:28] <asac> kickinz1: do you have com.ubuntu.... in metadat?
[17:28] <kickinz1> I didn'tknew there was an other way.
[17:28] <kickinz1> asac: packlage.yaml?
[17:28] <asac> yes
[17:29] <asac> anyway
[17:29] <asac> it seems to isntall here on bbb
[17:29] <asac> fwiw
[17:29] <asac> sergiusens: i need the new .snap
[17:29] <asac> it seems that whatever image lool used isnt right
[17:29] <kickinz1> http://paste.ubuntu.com/10793087/
[17:29] <kirkland> asac: unplugged it, and plugged it back in again
[17:29] <asac> kirkland: you have to remember that when dd finishes
[17:29] <asac> you have to wait till IO buffer is done
[17:29] <kirkland> see activity light, but nothing
[17:30] <asac> run sync
[17:30] <kirkland> asac: I ran sync 3 times
[17:30] <asac> ok
[17:30] <asac> thats odd
[17:30] <asac> i had a few time taht a dd didnt work
[17:30] <asac> usually i dded again and then it worked
[17:30] <asac> and i jsut tell yopu that i never used this pi2 and dded it and it booted :)
[17:30] <asac> it took long time before it upped ethernet
[17:31] <asac> then it got network
[17:31] <asac> and then it was there
[17:31] <asac> kirkland: do you have ethernet?
[17:31] <kirkland> yes
[17:31] <asac> ok because until yesterday the image wouldnt boot without network
[17:31] <mvo> fwiw, docker 1.5.0.002 installs fine for me in the latest image
[17:31] <asac> sergiusens: i need snap :)
[17:31] <asac> please!!
[17:31] <asac> lools image is too outdated i am sure :)
[17:32] <sergiusens> asac: uploading, I'm on a slow connection
[17:33] <asac> sergiusens: sorry i rebuilt and now its going
[17:33] <sergiusens> asac: 'dpkg-deb -x pi2*.snap x && snappy build x' might be faster
[17:33] <asac> yeah
[17:33] <asac> that was what i did
[17:33] <sergiusens> ok
[17:33] <sergiusens> I'll brb
[17:33] <asac> sry for moron
[17:33] <sergiusens> got into a coffee shop as rain took me by surprise
[17:33] <sergiusens> asac: lol, no worries
[17:34] * genii 's ears perk up at the mention of coffee, then he wanders away again
[17:34] <asac> oh coffee ... good idea
[17:34] <asac> :)
[17:34] <sergiusens> asac: I uploaded beagleblack.canonical btw
[17:34] <genii> Heh
[17:34] <asac> but i wait till i know if the new iamge just fixes the docker prob
[17:34] <asac> if dd would just be faster :)
[17:35] <ogra_> we need dd-diff ... that only applies the changed bytes :)
[17:35] <asac> lol
[17:36] <jdstrand> asac: meta/package.yaml is fine
[17:36] <jdstrand> asac: it is that he uploaded to the old namespace in the store
[17:37] <asac> right
[17:37] <asac> jdstrand: what is in package.yaml? just docker>?
[17:37] <jdstrand> name: docker
[17:37] <kickinz1> yes : http://paste.ubuntu.com/10793087/
[17:37] <jdstrand> the packaging is correct
[17:37] <asac> goodie
[17:38] <jdstrand> kickinz1: that is not the packaging you used
[17:38] <jdstrand> kickinz1: that seems to be old
[17:38] <jdstrand> I'm guessing your old armhf package
[17:38] <kickinz1> sorry, wrong place (old docker)
[17:39] <kickinz1> http://paste.ubuntu.com/10793165/
[17:39] <kickinz1> jd strand yes, was on my old armhf package.
[17:40] <jdstrand> well, that has 003, but yes
[17:40] <kirkland> ogra_: hey
[17:40] <kirkland> so can we get some help?
[17:40] <kirkland> ogra_: hangout or something?
[17:40] <jdstrand> this is what is in the store: http://paste.ubuntu.com/10793168/
[17:40] <kickinz1> So I really need to go, kids are alone, I planned to update to new namespace, but not sure it is woth to do it now.
[17:40] <ogra_> kirkland, can we do it here ... i cant really do hangouts from this place atm
[17:40] <kirkland> ogra_: okay
[17:40] <kirkland> ogra_: so we run snappy build .
[17:40] <kirkland> ogra_: and we get a .snap
[17:40] <kirkland> ogra_: we push it to the device
[17:41] <kirkland> ogra_: and snappy installs it
[17:41] <kirkland> ogra_: now what...
[17:41] <kirkland> ogra_: how can we tell if it's running
[17:41] <kirkland> ogra_: I can't telnet to the 6565 port chatroom.ogra_0.1-5_multi.snap
[17:41] <ogra_> kirkland, well, journalctl should have a bunch of messages about it being started
[17:42] <asac> kirkland: do you see the green light on the board blinking when it boots?
[17:42] <ogra_> webdm should aalso have an entry and yu should be able to reach it on http://$ip:6565/
[17:42] <kirkland> ogra_: ubuntu@localhost:~$ journalctl
[17:42] <kirkland> No journal files were found.
[17:42] <kirkland> asac: it blinked for a while, but not anymore
[17:42] <asac> k
[17:42] <ogra_> kirkland, sudo ;)
[17:43] <kirkland> asac: I just re-wrote the image, again, sync sync sync
[17:43] <kirkland> asac: and put it back in the rpi2
[17:43] <ogra_> kirkland, sudo journalctl|grep chatroom
[17:44] <ogra_> that should return some stuff
[17:44] <kirkland> ogra_: okay, good, this helps, I'm debugging now
[17:44] <ogra_> (or just pipe toless)
[17:44] <kirkland> asac: okay, so we're not going to have docker on rpi2 today?
[17:44] <kirkland> asac: if so, that's fine, I'll apologize and we'll cope
[17:44] <ogra_> kirkland, note that the package is pretty old, i didnt update it since a while and snappy changed underneath ... might be there are issues now
[17:44] <kirkland> asac: I'd much rather put all effort into solving one problem (packaging a nodejs app) than 2
[17:45] <kirkland> ogra_: I'm confused a bit about one thing
[17:45] <kirkland> ogra_: so I just untar that armhf tarball at the same level as the the meta/ and site/ dir?
[17:45] <kirkland> ogra_: and snappy build just puts that in there?
[17:46] <ogra_> kirkland, node-snapper generates two tarballs ... you unpack them in the toplevel of your package dir
[17:46] <kirkland> ogra_: okay, we only care about armhf here
[17:46] <ogra_> and should end up with an armhf and amd64 dir
[17:46] <kirkland> ogra_: is that okay?
[17:46] <ogra_> you need to adjust package.yaml
[17:46] <kirkland> ogra_: can I just remove amd64 from the package.yaml
[17:46] <kirkland> ogra_: okay, good done
[17:46] <ogra_> yeah
[17:47] <ogra_> so you unpack the armhf tarball in the toplevel ...
[17:47] <kirkland> ogra_: okay, and then you just point a browser at :6565?
[17:47] <ogra_> start-service.sh then checks for the arch and calls $arch/bin/nodejs site/server.js
[17:47] <ogra_> right
[17:48] <kirkland> ogra_: start-service.sh runs automatically?
[17:48] <ogra_> it used to
[17:48] <ogra_> not sure if the systemd service handling changed recently
[17:48] <asac> kirkland: should do
[17:49] <asac> if not you can try starting the service manually
[17:49] <asac> have to find the right systemd name :)
[17:49] <asac> we love systemd
[17:49] <ogra_> sudo systemctl |grep chatroom
[17:49] <ogra_> that should give you the service name
[17:51] <kirkland> asac: okay, my rpi2 is now up with the new image
[17:51] <asac> kirkland: really?
[17:51] <asac> wow :)
[17:51] <kirkland> asac: yeah, so can I install docker then?
[17:51] <asac> kirkland: reflashed?
[17:51] <kirkland> asac: yeah
[17:52] <asac> no it wont work as i said above
[17:52] <asac> i am trying
[17:52] <asac> i think the image is too old :) ... i tested on bbb and it worked
[17:52] <asac> with todays image
[17:52] * kirkland has to move downstairs now
[17:52] <asac> yeah gimme a bit
[17:52] <asac> i am confident that it will nto bail as it does with the lool image
[17:53] <asac> just have to get it booting
[17:53] <asac> had the same prob you had
[17:55] <asac> jdstrand: http://paste.ubuntu.com/10792912/
[17:55] <asac> can you think of a reason why that might be buggy with image from yesterday?
[17:56] <asac> e.g. is there hope
[17:56] <asac> it works with bbb from this morning for sure
[17:56] <ogra_> did you check your clock ?
[17:56] <asac> tyeah that was fine here
[17:56] <asac> we have now ntp-like thing
[17:56] <asac> so if network its good
[17:57] <ogra_> ah, k
[17:57] * ogra_ lost track ... so much stuff on phone going on atm
[17:57] <asac> yeah even more stuff going on here still :/
[17:59] <asac> anyone has a good picture how to connect the serial pins on this pi2?
[17:59] <asac> i would feel better if i could see whats going on
[18:01] <asac> bah!!!
[18:01] <ogra_> bah ?
[18:01] <asac> reboot
[18:01] <asac> udf doesnt work anymore
[18:01] <asac> because i ctrl-c'
[18:01] <asac> ed it
[18:04] <kirkland> ogra_: I've been stuck here for ~10 minutes:
[18:04] <kirkland> > [email protected] install /node_modules/ws/node_modules/utf-8-validate
[18:04] <kirkland> > node-gyp rebuild
[18:04] <ogra_> there should be a spinner underneath
[18:05] <ogra_> that usually takes a while, it compiles the modules
[18:06] <ogra_> if yu dont see the spinner, ctrl-c and run it again ... it uses qemu-user-static for the cross building, thats not 100% reiable
[18:06] <kirkland> ogra_: okay, ctrl-c'd, trying again
[18:06] <ogra_> whats your host arch ?
[18:06] <ogra_> i ran it only on amd64 machines
[18:07] <ogra_> (and on nothing newer than utopic, though that sholdnt matter)
[18:07] <asac> it was all lools fault again :) ... he didnt put --channel edge in his thingy so i tried to use the new device with devel :)
[18:07] <asac> mvo: are we good on promotion?
[18:07] <asac> i think that might help :_)
[18:07] <kirkland> asac: heh
[18:07] * asac regenerates two images
[18:07] <asac> one pi2
[18:07] <asac> and pi2-docker with docker preinstalled
[18:07] <asac> :P
[18:08] <asac> not that it would help if apparmor falls over on first boot
[18:08] <asac> hence i try the plain one first to see if it works :)
[18:08] * asac wont figure out how to connect serial
[18:08] <mvo> asac: still on it :( its looking promising though
[18:08] <asac> mvo: good!!
[18:08] <mvo> asac: Chipaca is currently tsting BBB, I did some testing on amd64/kvm
[18:08] <ogra_> asac, i'm not near my rpi ... :/
[18:09] <ogra_> and i cant tell from the top of my head
[18:09] <asac> ogra_: where are you?
[18:09] <ogra_> downstairs ...
[18:09] <asac> haha
[18:09] <ogra_> :)
[18:09] <asac> dont worry
[18:09] <asac> i am confident that this flash run will rock
[18:09] <kirkland> ogra_: okay, we made it past that step now
[18:09] <ogra_> cool
[18:10] <ogra_> asac, susie says: "cut the blue wire, not the yellow one"
[18:10] <ogra_> (she jus asked why i laugh)
[18:11] <asac> lol
[18:13] <asac> mvo: do uyou know if james landed something that touches the initrd?
[18:13] <asac> today?
[18:13] <asac> or yesterday?
[18:14] <mvo> asac: I don't think so but I don't know for sure
[18:14] <mvo> asac: why do you ask?
[18:14] <asac> just wondering if the device tarball of lool still has a chance to boot with an image 2 days later
[18:14] <asac> dont worry
[18:15] <asac> waiting for pi2 to start booting
[18:15] <mvo> asac: so testing results are a bit sparse, should we just promote amd64 and armhf (assuming the test look good)
[18:15] <asac> mvo: i am not sure what that excludes :)
[18:16] <sergiusens> mvo: asac I can continue with testing now or addon to Chipaca if we can speed things up
[18:16] <asac> i386 i dont care much
[18:16] <Chipaca> sergiusens: selftest fails here
[18:17] <Chipaca> sergiusens: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/10793413/
[18:17] <asac> so this one did never get a green light
[18:17] <asac> me dds again
[18:18] <kirkland> ogra_: http://paste.ubuntu.com/10793417/
[18:18] <asac> i would very much love to be on a machine that doesnt do crazy automounting :)
[18:18] <asac> i feel this induces99% of my bogus flash attempts
[18:18] * asac looks up this dbus --inhibit magic
[18:18] <sergiusens> Chipaca: oh, that's why I mentioned "remove software" from package.yaml
[18:18] <ogra_> kirkland, you dont have start-service.sh in your package
[18:18] <asac> sergiusens: can udf still work with udisks --inhibit-all ?
[18:18] <sergiusens> Chipaca: mvo I'll run the selftests with the beagleblack.canonical oem package
[18:19] <kirkland> ogra_: oh, I thought you had everything in that branch
[18:19] <ogra_> kirkland, did you actually follow the blog ... technically just copy/pasting the terminal commands should be enough
[18:19] <sergiusens> asac: it should, there's no udisk involvement here
[18:19] <kirkland> ogra_: I did the first time around; the second time around, I just bzr branched your +junk branch
[18:19] <ogra_> yeah, that should be enough ...
[18:20] <ogra_> you should just need to unpack the tarball in the toplevel
[18:20] <asac> kirkland: what do uyou have in /apps/ ?
[18:20] <asac> ls /apps/
[18:21] <jdstrand> asac: so, that paste is weird-- a number of things seem wrong. aa-clickhook failed gracefully, but systemd-snappyhook had some issues
[18:22] <jdstrand> asac: is it still an issue? let me try from the store on an updated image
[18:22] <asac> right i wanted to file it in the "snappy doesnt like namespaces, but that got fixed today" category
[18:22] <asac> jdstrand: no its only on the lool pi2 image
[18:22] <asac> i just want to know if its something underlying
[18:22] <asac> or just outdated image
[18:23] <asac> i totally get that anything can be possible because we rushed so many things in last few days
[18:23] <asac> just wanted to feel better while i fiddle with stupid dd
[18:23] <jdstrand> seems like maybe a filesystem issue?
[18:24] <asac> really?
[18:24] <asac> i dont have the paste anymore
[18:24] <asac> rebooted
[18:24] <jdstrand> cause that error from aa-clickhook is just about taking the json and outputting a text file
[18:24] <jdstrand> asac: I'm guessing since I don't have access to the device
[18:25] <jdstrand> maybe it was still read only?
[18:25] <jdstrand> again, guessing
[18:25] <asac> no clue
[18:25] <asac> letse wawit
[18:25] <asac> my latest dd seems to be at least truying to boot
[18:25] <jdstrand> that's a good start :)
[18:26] <asac> and it got an ip
[18:26] <asac> also good news
[18:26] * asac waits for cloud-init do the groundwork to get me to ssh
[18:26] <asac> ok so i am in the latest and greatest snappy userspace
[18:26] <asac> on the amazing lool device tarball
[18:26] <jdstrand> woo!
[18:27] <kirkland> ogra_: okay, this looks good:
[18:27] <kirkland> Feb 16 21:04:03 localhost.localdomain sudo[1062]: ubuntu : TTY=pts/1 ; PWD=/home/ubuntu ; USER=root ; COMMAND=/usr/bin/snappy install chatroom.ogra_0.1-5_multi.snap
[18:27] <kirkland> Feb 16 21:04:32 localhost.localdomain systemd[1]: Started A simple WebRTC videochat.
[18:27] <kirkland> Feb 16 21:04:32 localhost.localdomain systemd[1]: Starting A simple WebRTC videochat...
[18:27] <kirkland> not getting anything though, if I point my browser at 192.168.1.115:6565
[18:27] <asac> open /apps/docker/1.5.0.002/meta/package.yaml: permission denied
[18:28] <jdstrand> that's less 'woo'
[18:28] <asac> wtf
[18:28] <asac> something is odd there
[18:29] <asac> hmm
[18:29] <asac> second time it worked :)
[18:29] <jdstrand> ehh..
[18:29] <asac> kirkland: what was the command that kickinz1|away said we should use?
[18:29] <jdstrand> good?
[18:29] <asac> for armhf docker?
[18:29] <asac> the docker command is there :)
[18:29] <kirkland> asac: you need an armhf docker image
[18:30] <asac> yes he gave us a command
[18:30] <asac> you have that?
[18:30] <kirkland> asac: I'll have to look in scrollback here
[18:30] <asac> i dont have it :(
[18:30] <ogra_> kirkland, hmm, anything else in the logs ?
[18:30] <ogra_> it should just work ...
[18:31] <jdstrand> asac, kirkland: docker run -it armbuild/ubuntu
[18:33] <jdstrand> asac: you might be interested in http://paste.ubuntu.com/10791782/
[18:33] <kirkland> ogra_: netstat -an | grep 6565
[18:33] <kirkland> ogra_: shows nothing
[18:33] <jdstrand> asac: I guess if following that paste, you would change any of the 'ubuntu:' to be 'armbuild/ubuntu:'
[18:33] <ogra_> kirkland, ps ax|grep node
[18:34] <ogra_> does the nodejs process run ?
[18:34] <jdstrand> asac: but I've never done that
[18:36] <kirkland> ogra_: no node processes running
[18:36] <ogra_> kirkland, hmm, but no errors in journalctl ?
[18:37] <ogra_> that werid
[18:37] <kirkland> ogra_: right, not anymore
[18:37] <ogra_> *that's
[18:37] <kirkland> ogra_: http://paste.ubuntu.com/10793547/
[18:37] <kirkland> ogra_: there's a few snappy installs in there
[18:37] <kirkland> ogra_: note the timestamps
[18:37] <ogra_> Feb 16 21:02:40 localhost.localdomain systemd[995]: Failed at step EXEC spawning /apps/chatroom.ogra/0.1-5/start-service.sh: Exec format error
[18:37] <asac> jdstrand: do those commands work for you on bbb?
[18:38] <ogra_> are you sure you ship the armhf tarball ?
[18:38] <kirkland> ogra_: how can I check?
[18:38] <asac> jdstrand: i always get stuff olike:
[18:38] <asac> FATA[0000] Get http:///var/run/docker.sock/v1.17/version: dial unix /var/run/docker.sock: no such file or directory. Are you trying to connect to a TLS-enabled daemon without TLS?
[18:38] <kirkland> ogra_: fyi, I have to switch networks every time I move from IRC to the rpi, and back, so sorry for the long turnaround
[18:39] <asac> jdstrand: when docker images
[18:39] <asac> for instance
[18:39] <ogra_> kirkland, does /apps/chatroom-test.ogra/0.1-5/armhf/bin/nodejs exist ?
[18:39] <jdstrand> that's weird
[18:39] <jdstrand> I've never seen that before
[18:39] <jdstrand> http:///var/run/docker.sock/v1.17/version makes no sense
[18:40] <asac> yeah something bad happened
[18:40] <asac> jdstrand: do uyou have a beagle?
[18:40] <asac> just try installing docker and see if docker images works
[18:40] <jdstrand> is docker daemon running?
[18:40] <asac> no
[18:40] <jdstrand> not yet
[18:40] <jdstrand> I just ordered one yesterday
[18:40] <asac> hmm
[18:40] <kirkland> ogra_: http://paste.ubuntu.com/10793573/
[18:41] <jdstrand> I can say kickinz1|away tested bbb and amd64 and I tested various versions of amd64
[18:41] <ogra_> kirkland, looks all fine to me ... hmm, perhap some env vars have changed, start-service,sh uses $SNAPP_ everywhere
[18:42] <jdstrand> asac: what is the output of 'grep DEN /var/log/syslog'
[18:42] <asac> doont have it anymore
[18:42] <asac> something odd happend on first install
[18:42] <asac> the rest might be cruft
[18:42] <jdstrand> ok
[18:42] <asac> so its not valid
[18:42] <asac> i will now check on bbb
[18:42] <asac> while installing my image that has docker preinstalled
[18:42] <jdstrand> I think you are right to invalidate that test
[18:42] <asac> i have the feeling my sdcard has problems
[18:43] <jdstrand> that would possibly explain things
[18:43] * asac prepares to find a new one
[18:43] <asac> i have that one in the pi2 since MWC
[18:44] <asac> should be pretty good
[18:44] <asac> pretty high quality
[18:44] <jdstrand> sergiusens: hey, this is not important at all, but with udf, it might be nice to output the revision that was downloaded. eg: sudo ubuntu-device-flash core --output ubuntu-core.img --channel ubuntu-core/devel-proposed -s 8 --enable-ssh
[18:44] <jdstrand> sergiusens: ... New image complete (rNNN)
[18:44] <asac> jdstrand: so same same
[18:44] <asac> BeagleBoneBlack)ubuntu@localhost:~$ docker images
[18:44] <asac> FATA[0000] Get http:///var/run/docker.sock/v1.17/images/json: dial unix /var/run/docker.sock: no such file or directory. Are you trying to connect to a TLS-enabled daemon without TLS?
[18:44] <jdstrand> that's no good
[18:45] <jdstrand> I'm going to try in kvm
[18:45] <asac> jdstrand: who is supposed to start docker?
[18:45] <jdstrand> systemd
[18:45] <asac> jdstrand: there is no docker job in /etc
[18:45] <asac> find /etc/systemd/ | grep docker
[18:45] <asac> (BeagleBoneBlack)ubuntu@localhost:~$
[18:45] <jdstrand> asac: what does /var/log/syslog say about the install?
[18:46] <asac> dunno installed it before i rebooted
[18:46] <jdstrand> syslog is persistent
[18:46] <asac> Apr 10 18:42:55 localhost click[586]: ERROR:root:Failed to create system unit for docker_docker-daemon_1.5.0.002: expected string
[18:46] <sergiusens> jdstrand: I can get that in in a bit, sure
[18:47] * jdstrand taps fingers waiting for image to come up
[18:47] <asac> http://paste.ubuntu.com/10793654/
[18:47] <asac> jdstrand: ^
[18:47] <asac> thats a grep
[18:47] <kirkland> ogra_: alrighty, I'm up and running
[18:47] <kirkland> ogra_: thanks for your help
[18:48] <kirkland> ogra_: have a good evening, sir
[18:48] <ogra_> kirkland, yay, what was it ?
[18:48] <kirkland> ogra_: a bunch of little things
[18:48] <kirkland> ogra_: I'll try to write them up
[18:48] <ogra_> heh, k
[18:48] <kirkland> ogra_: mostly, I didn't do the right things with start-service.sh
[18:48] <jdstrand> asac: so, lool did mention earlier he was trying to start it manually... I wonder if he had the same issue
[18:48] <jdstrand> sigh
[18:48] * jdstrand -> reboot
[18:48] * davmor2 shows jdstrand and image quickly
[18:48] <ogra_> kirkland, well, theoretically you shouldnt need to do anything .... so i'l like to merge any needed changes
[18:48] <asac> mvo: http://paste.ubuntu.com/10793654/
[18:49] <kirkland> asac: poke me if docker on rpi2 comes around :-)
[18:49] <asac> does that mean anything to you?
[18:49] <kirkland> ogra_: honestly, if start-service.sh were part of your bzr branch, that would be great :-)
[18:49] <ogra_> it is, no ?
[18:49] * ogra_ checks
[18:49] <kirkland> ogra_: no, it's generated by your node-snapper script
[18:49] <kirkland> ogra_: and then it has to be copied over
[18:49] <kirkland> ogra_: and then manually edited
[18:49] <ogra_> oh, right
[18:50] <kirkland> ogra_: i did something wrong, somewhere in there
[18:50] <kirkland> ogra_: finally, I just went back over all of your instructions again, from scratch, and it worked well enough
[18:50] <ogra_> yeah, because it needs to create the LD_LIBRARY_PATH and friends
[18:50] <kirkland> ogra_: so the instructions are good :-) Just a little new/confusing the first time through
[18:50] <mvo> asac: hm, that looks like something in docker, no? the click error comes after the unit fails to start
[18:50] <ogra_> ok
[18:51] <asac> mvo: why would click fail to create the unit ?
[18:51] <asac> that should never fail imo
[18:51] <mvo> asac: click should not generate it at all anymore :) its snappy-go that does that nowdays
[18:51] <asac> so what is click doing here?
[18:52] <asac> is that because he has com.ubuntu.snappy ?
[18:52] * asac still doesnt get why that just installs
[18:52] <asac> if i run snappy install docker
[18:52] <mvo> asac: its because the build still produces snappy compatiblity code
[18:52] <asac> in which cases?
[18:52] <asac> is that the problem?
[18:52] <mvo> asac: when snappy build is called and yes, I think that is the problem
[18:52] <asac> so his package is click still?
[18:52] <asac> damn
[18:52] <asac> :)
[18:52] <asac> jdstrand: can you dpkg -x his docker
[18:53] <asac> and snappy build . it fresh?
[18:53] <asac> i dont have that .snap :(
[18:53] <mvo> asac: nothing I can do against that yet, sorry, soon it will not be anymore
[18:53] <asac> mvo: well, so i hear that he used an old snappy build ?
[18:54] <asac> ok
[18:54] <mvo> asac: not nesessarily, the current snappy still generates compatiblity code for the older images
[18:54] <asac> so you think if we upload it as .canonical it might work?
[18:54] <asac> odd thing is that on amd64 jdstrand says it works
[18:54] <mvo> it works on my amd64 as well
[18:54] <mvo> well, it installs and I can run docker and it prints stuff
[18:54] <asac> i can do that too
[18:55] <asac> run "docker images"
[18:55] <asac> that bails out
[18:55] <asac> the service is not running
[18:55] <asac> the docker command is there
[18:55] <asac> i really need the .snap :_)
[18:55] <asac> jdstrand: can you get me the .sanp from store?
[18:55] <asac> i want to try sideloading it
[18:55] <asac> i am sure he sideloaded it during development
[18:55] <asac> and it worked ;)
[18:56] <asac> beuno: can yiou check if we have an alias set in store
[18:56] <asac> for docker to com.ubuntu... ?
[18:57] <mvo> http://paste.ubuntu.com/10793735/
[18:57] <mvo> asac: -^ works on my amd64 install
[18:57] <mvo> asac: do you run that on the BBB?
[18:59] <jdstrand> man that was painful
[18:59] <jdstrand> ok, I'm back
[19:00] <asac> mvo: yeah its buggy there
[19:00] <asac> mvo: can you give me the raw snap?
[19:00] <asac> i have zero clue how to get that
[19:01] <mvo> asac: sergiusens wrote a store-get command for this, I think we should have a hidden snappy download command for this
[19:01] <jdstrand> meh, I lost my review copy cause I rebooted
[19:01] <jdstrand> I can get it
[19:01] <jdstrand> hold on
[19:02] <asac> thx so much :)
[19:02] <mvo> asac: go get github.com/sergiusens/store-get
[19:02] <mvo> asac: $GOPATH/bin/store-get docker
[19:02] <mvo> asac: that should work
[19:02] <asac> i am not set up for go stuff :/
[19:03] <asac> lets no solve that for now
[19:03] <mvo> meh, ok
[19:03] <asac> so seems snappy update is running ;) ... cant do more
[19:03] <mvo> sorry
[19:04] <mvo> but its really just sudo apt-get install golang-go and export GOPATH=~/go
[19:04] <kickinz1|away> asac, did you try on bbb?
[19:04] <asac> yeah
[19:04] <asac> kickinz1|away: same problem
[19:04] <kickinz1|away> it was working ok for me and for lool on bbb
[19:04] <asac> kickinz1|away: http://paste.ubuntu.com/10793783/
[19:04] <kickinz1|away> which image on bbb?
[19:04] <asac> the one from this morning
[19:05] <kickinz1|away> snappy list gives you what?
[19:05] <asac> kickinz1|away: http://paste.ubuntu.com/10793787/
[19:05] <asac> 221
[19:05] <kickinz1|away> I'm on 220...
[19:05] <kickinz1|away> Name Date Version Developer
[19:05] <kickinz1|away> ubuntu-core 2015-04-10 220
[19:05] <kickinz1|away> docker 2015-04-10 1.5.0.002
[19:05] <asac> kickinz1|away: did you install from store?
[19:05] <asac> or sideload?
[19:05] <kickinz1|away> install from store
[19:06] <kickinz1|away> I did sudo snappy remove docker (that one was sideloaded)
[19:06] <asac> yeah
[19:06] <kickinz1|away> then sudo snappy install docker (that on came from store)
[19:06] <asac> maybe that left over the parts that dont work from store
[19:06] <kickinz1|away> then I tested
[19:06] <asac> kickinz1|away: do you have the .snap still?
[19:06] <kickinz1|away> yes
[19:06] <asac> would like too try side loading
[19:07] <kickinz1|away> https://mifamofi.net/owncloud/public.php?service=files&t=f837f7bc6787466c54c1467f43715987
[19:07] <asac> mvo: how can i manually remove the docker?
[19:07] <asac> it doesnt uninstall because the service is still running
[19:07] <asac> err is not running
[19:09] <asac> kickinz1|away: can you put that as a file up somewhere?
[19:09] <asac> nevermind
[19:09] <asac> i jsut dont like using browser download
[19:09] <asac> have it now
[19:09] <kickinz1|away> asac yes I just qhared the link before ^ : https://mifamofi.net/owncloud/public.php?service=files&t=f837f7bc6787466c54c1467f43715987
[19:09] <kickinz1|away> ok
[19:12] <jdstrand> asac: http://people.canonical.com/~jamie/docker_1.5.0.002_all.snap
[19:13] <asac> ok so sideloading does the trick
[19:13] <asac> i think its the com.ubuntu... fun thing
[19:14] <asac> ok /me goes all in and preinstall the sideloaded docker :)
[19:14] <asac> for pi2
[19:14] <asac> jdstrand: you can upload for .canonical?
[19:14] <jdstrand> fyi, I just did 'sudo snappy install docker' from the store and it is working
[19:15] <jdstrand> on amd64
[19:15] <asac> yeah i dont know why that is the case
[19:15] <jdstrand> r377
[19:15] <asac> i know that i just sideloaded it and it works on bbb
[19:15] <asac> like our theory
[19:15] <kickinz1|away> I'll update my bbb to 221 and check install from store
[19:15] <asac> it didnt work on pi2 from store nor on bbb when i didnt have it instaleld before
[19:15] <jdstrand> give me a minute
[19:15] <asac> kickinz1|away: so be sure that you remove all stuff of docker
[19:16] <asac> kickinz1|away: rm -rf /apps/docker/
[19:16] <asac> kickinz1|away: rm -rf /apps/bin/docker*
[19:16] <asac> kickinz1|away: rm -rf /var/lib/apps/docker/
[19:16] <jdstrand> kickinz1|away: have you updated the docker branch?
[19:16] <asac> kickinz1|away: and also the docker stuff in /etc/systemd/
[19:16] <asac> kickinz1|away: so rm /etc/systemd/system/multi-user.target.wants/docker_docker-daemon_1.5.0.002.service
[19:16] <asac> and rm /etc/systemd/system/docker_docker-daemon_1.5.0.002.service
[19:16] <asac> then installing from store will explode
[19:16] <asac> our theory because of the namespace\
[19:17] <asac> i think our snappy remove does not clean the systemd jobs
[19:17] <asac> is what i suspect
[19:17] <jdstrand> remove seems to have some bugs
[19:18] <asac> yeah
[19:18] <jdstrand> I haven't had a chance to dig in and file them
[19:18] <asac> the data is still there
[19:18] <asac> not the systemd stuff
[19:18] <asac> odd
[19:18] <asac> guess next week is bug fix mode :)
[19:18] <asac> and not that many features :)
[19:20] <asac> wtf now from store worked too
[19:20] <asac> sigh
[19:20] <kickinz1|away> on bbb ?
[19:21] <asac> yeah
[19:21] <asac> very very odd
[19:21] <kickinz1|away> after a sideload?
[19:21] <asac> i installed 2 hours ago
[19:21] <asac> no systemd jobs
[19:21] <asac> (from store)
[19:22] <asac> i manually cleaned all things and sideloaded -> worked
[19:22] <asac> i manually cleaned and install from stored -> worked
[19:22] <kickinz1|away> did you removed /var/lib/apparmor/docker related stuff?
[19:22] <asac> oh no
[19:22] <asac> that one i didnt
[19:22] <asac> good point
[19:22] <asac> i only did /var/lib/apps/docker
[19:23] <asac> so that might be it
[19:23] <jdstrand> there is also framework policy in /var/lib/snappy
[19:23] <kickinz1|away> jdstrand still uploading, very slow bandwith...
[19:24] <kickinz1|away> jdstrand just uploaded
[19:24] <jdstrand> ok
[19:24] <asac> jdstrand: can we maybe reupload kickinz1|away's snapp as .canonical ?
[19:24] <jdstrand> there it goes
[19:24] <asac> can you do that?
[19:24] <asac> i think its worth a shot :P
[19:24] <jdstrand> asac: that is what I am working on
[19:24] <asac> we certainly prefer to not have com....
[19:24] <asac> ah thanks
[19:24] <asac> we need to find the store folks
[19:24] <asac> a) shut down the smoser account
[19:24] <asac> b) clean the docker :)
[19:26] <asac> omg
[19:26] <asac> there is so much stuff of docker in the FS
[19:26] <asac> even in click directories taht shouldnt exist in my world view
[19:26] <asac> spread everywhere
[19:26] <asac> jdstrand: we really need to clean up the world where appamore spreads stuff :)
[19:26] <asac> its everywhere
[19:27] <asac> needs to be nicely in one place :P
[19:27] <asac> know its not you
[19:27] <asac> but just saying
[19:27] <asac> its hooked in everywhere
[19:27] <asac> kinda makes sense that we dont clean it nicely on remove
[19:28] <asac> kickinz1|away: so i cant say that its really the sideloading
[19:28] <asac> because my bbb was certainly not docker free when it suddenly started working
[19:28] <asac> guess we have to find | grep docker and rm -rf manually
[19:28] <asac> or on fresh flash which is awful
[19:28] <asac> ok flashing fresh pi2 again
[19:30] <asac> jdstrand: http://paste.ubuntu.com/10793979/
[19:30] <jdstrand> asac: re apparmor, yes, that is part of what /var/lib/snappy is about. that is the new world. the old world still exists
[19:31] <jdstrand> so we have click and snappy locations, so its weird
[19:32] <asac> s i think i removed all fiels that had name docker
[19:32] <asac> and sideloading still worked
[19:32] <asac> so there is hope
[19:32] <asac> but maybe i oversaw something
[19:34] <jdstrand> there is also the issue that things are garbage collected when install fails, but not completely
[19:35] <asac> yeah for sure
[19:36] <jdstrand> ok, lp:~snappy-dev/snappy-hub/docker updated to what is in the store now
[19:36] <jdstrand> now preparing 1.5.0.003 with .canonical
[19:40] <jdstrand> ok, the snap looks good
[19:41] <jdstrand> actually, I'm not sure what account is used for .canonical. is that on the mailing list?
[19:41] <jdstrand> sergiusens: ^
[19:42] <asac> INFO[0000] Listening for HTTP on unix (/var/run/docker.sock)
[19:42] <asac> WARN[0000] WARNING: Udev sync is not supported. This will lead to unexpected behavior, data loss and errors
[19:42] <asac> FATA[0000] Error running DeviceCreate (CreatePool) dm_task_run failed
[19:42] <asac> kickinz1|away: ^^
[19:42] <asac> so i think thats the problem
[19:42] <sergiusens> jdstrand: I have creds and so does mvo
[19:42] <jdstrand> I've got it now
[19:42] <sergiusens> jdstrand: want it
[19:42] <sergiusens> ah you got it
[19:42] <jdstrand> thanks
[19:42] <asac> root@localhost:/apps/docker/1.5.0.002# /apps/docker/1.5.0.002/bin/docker.start
[19:42] <asac> INFO[0000] +job serveapi(unix:///var/run/docker.sock)
[19:42] <asac> INFO[0000] Listening for HTTP on unix (/var/run/docker.sock)
[19:42] <asac> WARN[0000] WARNING: Udev sync is not supported. This will lead to unexpected behavior, data loss and errors
[19:42] <asac> FATA[0000] Error running DeviceCreate (CreatePool) dm_task_run failed
[19:42] * asac bets its kernel option missing
[19:42] * sergiusens watches the flood of asac
[19:43] <asac> 21:42 < asac> FATA[0000] Error running DeviceCreate (CreatePool) dm_task_run failed
[19:43] <asac> really would like to know what that tries to do
[19:43] <asac> http://paste.ubuntu.com/10794076/
[19:43] <asac> that looks suspicious
[19:44] <asac> yeah this ioctl multiplies when i run docker
[19:45] <asac> https://github.com/docker/docker/blob/dd786eefbbf286ca57b52374a6905c1ac8b8bd60/docs/sources/installation/kernel.rst
[19:45] <crised_> Can I see the available packages for this distro?
[19:47] <mfilipe> anyone here knows how is the progress to Digital Ocean accepts Ubuntu Core?
[19:51] <kickinz1|away> bbb: updating from 3 -> 222 ;) (slow bandwidth used an already downloaded).
[19:53] <jdstrand> sergiusens: "The uploaded package name (docker) does not use your namespace (canonical)"
[19:54] <jdstrand> sergiusens: I thought we said I did not need .canonical in the name?
[19:55] <jdstrand> the store may need an alias
[19:55] <jdstrand> asac: please advise ^
[19:55] <jdstrand> yaml has: name: docker
[19:55] <jdstrand> upload resulted in "The uploaded package name (docker) does not use your namespace (canonical)"
[19:55] <asac> ok found somethign
[19:55] <sergiusens> jdstrand: that's not ready afaik
[19:55] <asac> our kernel doesnt have enough options
[19:55] <asac> CONFIG_BLK_DEV_DM
[19:56] <asac> CONFIG_DM_THIN_PROVISIONING\
[19:56] <asac> jdstrand: you know kernel packaging fu enough to maybe add those options ? and spin a ppa build?
[19:56] <asac> https://launchpad.net/~p-pisati/+archive/ubuntu/misc/+files/linux-bcm2709_3.19.1-4.4.dsc
[19:56] <jdstrand> sergiusens: if that's true, we should hold off on uploading this into the .canonical namespace
[19:56] <jdstrand> tyhicks: can you take a look at that? ^
[19:57] <jdstrand> tyhicks: at what asac mentioned
[19:57] <asac> so i am cross checking https://github.com/docker/docker/blob/dd786eefbbf286ca57b52374a6905c1ac8b8bd60/docs/sources/installation/kernel.rst
[19:57] <asac> with cat boot/config-3.19.1-4-generic-bcm2709 | pastebinit
[19:57] <asac> http://paste.ubuntu.com/10794169/
[19:57] <asac> and CONFIG_BLK_DEV_DM
[19:57] <asac> missing makes lots of sense given the error we see
[19:57] <asac> http://paste.ubuntu.com/10794076/
[19:58] <jdstrand> let me see what snappy does if I do 'name: docker.canonical'
[19:59] <asac> yeah
[19:59] <asac> but the optioons are missing for sure
[19:59] <asac> so missing from what i see is:
[19:59] <asac> CONFIG_MEMCG_SWAP
[19:59] <asac> CONFIG_DM_THIN_PROVISIONING
[19:59] <jdstrand> I'm quite sure snappy is going to not dtrt with docker.canonical
[19:59] <asac> CONFIG_BLK_DEV_DM
[19:59] <asac> jdstrand: i think it will
[19:59] <asac> unless we still install apps with .developer :_)
[19:59] <asac> otherwise its tracked
[20:00] <jdstrand> no, I don't think so
[20:00] <jdstrand> it is going to install the framework policy incorrectly
[20:00] <jdstrand> because frameworks are expected to be toplevel
[20:01] <asac> kirkland: bad news... docker wont run on pi2 because we lack some kernel options... and i wont be able to give you a new kernel with those options
[20:01] <asac> we might have some luck, but best focus on bbb and tell them that pi2 will behave the same
[20:01] <tyhicks> asac: is there a git tree with the bcm2709 kernel source?
[20:01] <asac> tyhicks: no clue
[20:01] <asac> we really just need a one off
[20:01] <asac> to bandaid
[20:01] <asac> tyhicks: you can dget the dsc
[20:02] <tyhicks> I've only ever built ubuntu kernels out of the kernel team's git trees
[20:02] <asac> and dpkg-source -x it :)
[20:02] <tyhicks> I can give the dsc a shot
[20:02] <sergiusens> tyhicks: http://people.canonical.com/~lool/pi2-device-and-oem/
[20:02] <asac> tyhicks: so there probably is one if you give me gitweb
[20:02] <asac> i can search
[20:02] <sergiusens> tyhicks: there's a link to a deb built by paulo
[20:02] <asac> its ppisiati
[20:02] <asac> who did that
[20:02] <sergiusens> in a ppa
[20:02] <asac> tyhicks: but i never can find gitweb
[20:03] <sergiusens> asac: http://kernel.ubuntu.com/git
[20:03] * asac waits for the resource efficient gitweb app to figure what to display :)
[20:04] <sergiusens> asac: http://kernel.ubuntu.com/git?p=ppisati/ubuntu-vivid.git;a=summary
[20:04] <kirkland> asac: okay, no worries
[20:04] <kirkland> asac: thanks a lot, I'll apologize to the guys here
[20:04] <asac> kirkland: could be... but it makes sense now
[20:04] <kirkland> asac: thanks to ogra, we have a nodejs app :-)
[20:04] <asac> kirkland: so you can sideload it to bbb for sure
[20:04] <kirkland> asac: we're happy enough with that
[20:05] <asac> cool
[20:05] <asac> well, i spend so much time of my friday night that i needed to spend on something else
[20:05] <asac> that i really want this to work :)
[20:05] <tyhicks> sergiusens: I'd need to build a new snappy image to provide an updated kernel?
[20:05] <kirkland> asac: +1, go have a beer or 5
[20:05] * tyhicks is looking at the pi2-device-and-oem link
[20:05] <asac> kirkland: well, if tyhicks can build a new kernel i might spin a new image for you tomorrow that will work
[20:06] <asac> tyhicks: you cannot do that
[20:06] <asac> tyhicks: if you have the kernel with those new options
[20:06] <asac> talk to me :)
[20:06] <asac> and i wil try to hack it into the device tarball and see if it works
[20:06] <asac> its a bit of a nightmare :)
[20:06] <tyhicks> ok
[20:06] <asac> 21:55 < asac> CONFIG_BLK_DEV_DM
[20:06] <asac> 21:56 < asac> CONFIG_DM_THIN_PROVISIONING\
[20:07] <jdstrand> asac: fyi, https://bugs.launchpad.net/snappy-ubuntu/+bug/1442790
[20:07] <asac> 21:57 < asac> and CONFIG_BLK_DEV_DM
[20:07] <asac> tyhicks: those tree
[20:07] * tyhicks nods
[20:07] <asac> three!!
[20:07] <jdstrand> asac: (snappy remove doesn't remove everything)
[20:07] * tyhicks will give it a shot
[20:07] <tyhicks> asac: I'm not going to do it in a ppa - that'll take too long
[20:07] <asac> yeah
[20:07] <asac> tyhicks: i need armhf image and modules deb
[20:07] <asac> the rest i will just fiddle around from there
[20:07] * tyhicks nods
[20:07] <asac> tyhicks: you migth want to heck if we enable those options as modules
[20:07] <asac> or as y
[20:08] <asac> in our normal kernel
[20:08] <asac> just check on amd64
[20:08] <asac> if its y
[20:08] <tyhicks> right
[20:08] <tyhicks> will do
[20:08] <asac> maybe its just swapping the vmlinuz :)
[20:08] <asac> that would be jackpot
[20:08] <asac> at least i would just try to do that for bandaiding
[20:08] <kirkland> asac: if so, give it to mahmoh
[20:08] <kirkland> asac: he's supporting the hackathon tomorrow
[20:08] <jdstrand> interesting: rm: cannot remove '/var/lib/apps/docker/1.5.0.002/aufs': Device or resource busy
[20:08] <asac> kirkland: is he up to speed?
[20:08] <asac> :)
[20:08] <asac> kirkland: he isnt even online :(
[20:08] <asac> i tried to find him all week
[20:09] <asac> jdstrand: yeah thats all funny
[20:09] <asac> tyhicks: sorry i posrted one config twice... the third i found on docker page is CONFIG_MEMCG_SWAP
[20:09] <jdstrand> hopefully aufs is in said kernel too
[20:10] <asac> but not sure if we needt hat... the first two are surely the ones matching the errors i get in dmesg
[20:10] <asac> let me see
[20:10] <asac> i think it is
[20:10] <asac> cat boot/config-3.19.1-4-generic-bcm2709 | pastebinit
[20:10] <asac> http://paste.ubuntu.com/10794241/
[20:10] <asac> jdstrand: ^
[20:11] <asac> jdstrand: thats odd
[20:11] <asac> https://github.com/docker/docker/blob/dd786eefbbf286ca57b52374a6905c1ac8b8bd60/docs/sources/installation/kernel.rst
[20:11] <asac> its not there
[20:11] <asac> Note: as of 0.7 docker no longer requires aufs. AUFS support is still available as an optional driver.
[20:11] <asac> jdstrand: ^^
[20:11] <asac> read that page :)
[20:11] <jdstrand> erf, I hit the darn useless logging bug and garbage collection on install
[20:11] <asac> not sure why you have docker still using it though
[20:11] <asac> :{
[20:11] <asac> jdstrand: file them and we knock them out next week :)... bug fixing
[20:11] <asac> maybe make a short list
[20:12] <kirkland> asac: probably not, you'll need to send him a note
[20:12] <kirkland> asac: I'm heading home tonight
[20:12] <jdstrand> well, I only mentioned aufs cause that aufs file was not removable
[20:12] <asac> kirkland: is he not around?
[20:12] <jdstrand> asac: I filled them yesterday
[20:12] <jdstrand> filed
[20:12] <jdstrand> that is what kept people up late into the night
[20:14] <mahmoh> asac: hi
[20:14] <asac> hi mahmoh
[20:14] <asac> kirkland: so what kind of stuff are they doing there and mind need support?
[20:14] <asac> kirkland: maybe other channel
[20:20] <kickinz1|away> asac: on my fresh bbb 222: http://paste.ubuntu.com/10794316/
[20:21] <asac> kickinz1|away: yep see above
[20:21] <asac> kickinz1|away: seems some bugs in snappy caused the bbb also to have troubles
[20:21] <asac> kickinz1|away: it all seems to be kernel options missions
[20:21] <asac> missing
[20:21] <kickinz1|away> ok
[20:22] <kickinz1|away> sorry
[20:22] <asac> the basics definitely work on bbb
[20:22] <asac> kickinz1|away: sorry for causing confusion :)
[20:22] <asac> but friday night things go crazy
[20:22] <asac> kickinz1|away: we meet on sunday!
[20:22] <asac> go off
[20:23] <kickinz1|away> asac, ok see you on sunday!
[20:23] <asac> good to know that away is closer than afk :)
[20:25] <crised_> Are the packages from ubuntu available to snappy???
[20:27] <tyhicks> asac: CONFIG_BLK_DEV_DM is already 'y'
[20:28] <tyhicks> asac: CONFIG_DM_THIN_PROVISIONING a module on amd64 - would you rather me build it in for this one-off kernel?
[20:29] <tyhicks> (CONFIG_MEMCG_SWAP is built in on amd64 so I'll build it in for this kernel, too)
[20:29] <asac> tyhicks: yeah if it can be just built in thats better
[20:29] <tyhicks> will do
[20:30] <asac> thin certainly makes sense as well with the dmest
[20:30] <asac> dmesg :)
[20:35] <asac> tyhicks: guess just give me vmlinuz :)
[20:41] <jdstrand> asac: ok, so framework policy is not copied correctly with 'name: docker.canonical_client'. as a result, the docker cli command doesn't work (cause it references this policy). I could make it all work, but by definition frameworks are supposed to be toplevel
[20:41] <asac> yeah
[20:41] <jdstrand> asac: I think we should hold off on docker in the .canonical namespace
[20:41] <asac> jdstrand: so what i dont understand is why the com.... works
[20:41] <asac> jdstrand: i guess the alias?
[20:41] <asac> thats fine
[20:41] <jdstrand> asac: because there is a server side hack iirc
[20:42] <asac> the .canonical will go away if we do switch
[20:42] <asac> its the alias
[20:42] <asac> i think
[20:42] <jdstrand> maybe it is now an alias and not a hack
[20:42] <asac> if i install docker
[20:42] <jdstrand> we had hacks in december
[20:42] <asac> right
[20:42] <asac> its not clear to me how the fact that its an alias propagates
[20:42] <jdstrand> me either
[20:42] <asac> jdstrand: did you use docker.canonical in yaml?
[20:42] <asac> i think dont do that
[20:42] <asac> just use docker
[20:42] <asac> and upload it as .canonical
[20:42] <asac> and then its fine
[20:43] <asac> i think store already implemented it
[20:43] <asac> as origin
[20:43] <asac> so we can kick it out of package.yaml
[20:43] <jdstrand> asac: right, so, with 'name: docker' on upload I had the store tell me I messed up
[20:43] <asac> this is why it works for what we did with com...
[20:43] <asac> odd
[20:43] <jdstrand> with 'name: docker.canonical' I see the policy issue
[20:43] <asac> ok then the store hasnte finished work
[20:43] <asac> lets not bother till they land that origin feature
[20:43] <asac> i thought it was done
[20:43] <asac> but maybe they are stilll doing something
[20:43] <jdstrand> asac: when you say 'upload it as .canonical' what do you mean?
[20:43] <jdstrand> adjust the filename?
[20:44] <asac> jdstrand: its meant to be only something you do in the store
[20:44] <asac> you package it up without namespace
[20:44] <asac> and upload it as .canonical
[20:44] <asac> then its all good
[20:44] <jdstrand> yes, what does that mean?
[20:44] <jdstrand> :)
[20:44] <jdstrand> that is what I attempted to do first
[20:44] <asac> this means you upload it as use that has namespace .canonical
[20:44] <jdstrand> yeah
[20:44] <asac> the store will just track that as "origin"
[20:44] <jdstrand> ok, that didn't work
[20:44] <asac> right
[20:44] <asac> this is the only big thing we are missing
[20:44] <asac> for next week
[20:45] <asac> from what i know :)
[20:45] <asac> besuides your security refinements
[20:45] <jdstrand> I logged to the proper account, the store recognized (as seen through the error message) that I was in the .canonical namespace, but didn't like the package
[20:45] <asac> yeah then they didnt land it ompletely
[20:45] <asac> i know they were super close but had to migrate DB
[20:45] <mvo> jdstrand: do we need a backport of the click-reviewers-tools in the ppa:snappy-dev/tools (and/or beta)?
[20:45] <jdstrand> ok, that's fine
[20:45] <asac> but wanted to do that over weekend or something
[20:46] <jdstrand> mvo: so.. I was working on the review tools and then was asked to put them aside in favor of seccomp
[20:46] <jdstrand> mvo: I have a lot of changes that need to land but they aren't quite ready yet
[20:46] <jdstrand> this is for bugs and security yaml
[20:46] <mvo> jdstrand: no problem, I was just curious
[20:46] <asac> tyhicks: maybe the vmlinuz is already done (while it builds the module lot)?
[20:47] <mvo> jdstrand: I personally think that the seccomp stuff is more important to land
[20:47] <jdstrand> once I get through seccomp I'll pick that up again
[20:47] <asac> crazy times :)
[20:47] * asac remembers the two weeks before first release for cloud
[20:48] <jdstrand> so, for anyone interested, lp:~snappy-dev/snappy-hub/docker is up to date with what is in the store and tagged
[20:48] <asac> thanks
[20:48] <jdstrand> so if people want to change the packaging, just do: snappy build ./package-dir
[20:49] <jdstrand> mvo: have I mentioned how I do snappy builds?
[20:49] <jdstrand> mvo: I don't use the tools for snappy
[20:50] <jdstrand> mvo: I fire up a snappy image then: scp -P 8022 ubuntu@localhost:/usr/bin/snappy /tmp ; /tmp/snappy build ...' :)
[20:50] <jdstrand> mvo: I guess static linking is good for mething :)
[20:50] <jdstrand> something
[20:56] <mvo> jdstrand: haha, nice.
[20:56] <tyhicks> asac: there were some file permissions related failures that stopped the build - it is running now
[20:57] <mvo> jdstrand: thats good so you tested the snappy go builds already, excellent
[20:57] <jdstrand> tyhicks: thank you for looking at that
[20:57] <jdstrand> mvo: always! :)
[20:57] <tyhicks> np
[20:57] <jdstrand> mvo: I then run them through my review tools branch
[21:03] <asac> tyhicks: local problems?
[21:03] * asac ignores
[21:04] <tyhicks> asac: here you go: http://people.canonical.com/~tyhicks/bcm/linux-image-3.19.1-4-generic-bcm2709_3.19.1-4.4+kconfig1_armhf.deb
[21:05] <tyhicks> asac: unpack the deb and pull out the vmlinux file
[21:19] <tyhicks> asac: be sure to check your email - paolo was one step ahead of us and will have a more official build ready in a couple hours
[21:19] <mvo> sergiusens: sorry, but any idea what http://paste.ubuntu.com/10794788/ means and how I can get rid of it?
[21:20] <tyhicks> I'm not sure if you want to go through the image generation with my kernel or wait for his
[21:21] <asac> tyhicks: right now i want to try copying it hard to /boot :)
[21:22] <asac> not new image
[21:25] <tyhicks> that makes sense
[21:29] <asac> tyhicks: thanks! http://paste.ubuntu.com/10794885/
[21:29] <asac> it works :)
[21:30] <tyhicks> nice! :)
[21:32] <asac> well they die
[21:32] <asac> not sure whats going on :)
[21:32] <mvo> nice, and really nice to see the raspi2 oem snap from lool
[21:32] <asac> yeah
[21:32] <asac> thats cool
[21:33] <mvo> its comming togehter
[21:51] * asac waves and goes to semi weekend and then travel :)
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[04:54] <Kilos> morning all
[06:11] <Kilos> hi andrewlsd
[06:12] <andrewlsd> Hi Kilos
[06:12] <Kilos> wb stranger
[06:13] <andrewlsd> ty
[06:13] <Kilos> you getting behind
[06:14] <Kilos> can you edit wiki pages?
[06:14] <andrewlsd> I was busy offsite for a couple of weeks, and then there was a long weekend.
[06:14] <Kilos> ok you forgiven
[06:14] <andrewlsd> Kilos, I know how to, not sure if I have permission to.
[06:14] <Kilos> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ZATeam/Members
[06:15] <Kilos> you can add you there
[06:17] <andrewlsd> k
[06:18] <Kilos> hehe
[06:19] <Kilos> :D
[06:19] <Kilos> morning inetpro i can see it!
[06:19] <Kilos> w0000t
[06:20] <Kilos> now we get the runaround, what is it!
[06:21] <Kilos> ty mciverza
[06:21] <Kilos> hi ton
[06:21] <Kilos> oh he left
[06:21] <Kilos> sigh RTFS
[06:24] <mciverza> Kilos: RTFS?
[06:24] <Kilos> read the flippin script
[06:24] <Kilos> i get that every time i break something
[06:24] <Kilos> or cant do something
[06:26] <Kilos> theblazehen are you actually here?
[06:32] <Kilos> that looks better mciverza
[06:33] <Kilos> was hard to believe you just joined lp
[06:33] <mciverza> had to figure out LP was launchpad.
[06:33] <Kilos> lol
[06:33] * mciverza facepalm
[06:34] <Kilos> how good are you at fixing bugs? we have our own team doing ubuntu bug fixing
[06:35] <Kilos> led by octoquad
[06:37] <mciverza> kilos. nice. not sure. also, whilst perusing the ZAteam page I followed the lnk to tonberry, thence maties-ubuntu group and ended up on hgibson's page. found this awesome "how the internet started" http://staff.lib.sun.ac.za/~hgibson/how-the-internet-began/
[06:38] <mciverza> nuvolari, you in the Western Cape these days? I thought you were in KZN?
[06:38] <Kilos> na he moved months ago
[06:42] <Kilos> haha
[06:42] <Kilos> clever read that
[06:44] <mciverza> Kilos. I lol'd about it
[06:44] <Kilos> yeah
[06:49] <Kilos> very clever worked out
[06:50] * mciverza is off to lurk for a bit, and find coffee
[06:52] <Kilos> k
[07:14] <Kilos> uh oh
[07:14] <Kilos> hi SDCDev
[07:17] <Kilos> wb inetpro what did you break
[07:22] <Kilos> hi TinuvaMac
[07:22] <TinuvaMac> morning Kilos
[07:39] <SDCDev> morning Kilos
[08:01] <magespawn> good morning all
[08:01] <Kilos> hi magespawn
[08:03] <inetpro> ohi everyone
[08:03] <inetpro> and oom Kilos
[08:03] <Kilos> lol hello my pro
[08:03] * Kilos waits for comment
[08:05] <inetpro> Maaz: rtfs'
[08:05] <Maaz> inetpro: *blink*
[08:05] <inetpro> Maaz: rtfs
[08:05] <Maaz> Read the Freaking Source/Spec/Screen
[08:05] <inetpro> where did you get script from?
[08:06] * Kilos waits for more comment
[08:06] <inetpro> Kilos: what can you see?
[08:06] <Kilos> it!
[08:06] <inetpro> oh
[08:06] <inetpro> how long is a piece of string?
[08:07] <Kilos> such a beautiful site
[08:07] <Kilos> duh! what are you guys working on dodo
[08:07] <inetpro> https://ubuntu-za.org/
[08:07] <Kilos> africa
[08:08] <Kilos> beautifuller
[08:08] <inetpro> ai!
[08:08] <inetpro> that's not done yet man
[08:08] <Kilos> yeah we need some clarity from fly before the jumotron edits
[08:09] <Kilos> arent they supposed to show a different view on every page?
[08:09] <Kilos> wasnt that the idea
[08:09] <inetpro> Kilos: where did you hide last night?
[08:09] <Kilos> here every single minute
[08:09] <inetpro> ai!
[08:09] <Kilos> i was watching
[08:10] <inetpro> just keep watching
[08:10] <Kilos> its hard to follow when lots happening same time
[08:11] <Kilos> maybe you guys can add the dell lappy thing to the za site as well
[08:12] <inetpro> no
[08:12] <Kilos> ok
[08:13] <Kilos> there was a guy here last night from the site asking where to get buntu preinstalled lappy in za
[08:13] <Kilos> why didnt you guide him
[08:14] <Kilos> hi rohanza
[08:17] <rohanza> Kilos: hi
[08:20] <Kilos> hi psyatw
[08:21] <psyatw> hi Kilos
[08:23] <inetpro> Kilos: it's simple
[08:23] * inetpro is not a salesman
[08:23] <Kilos> google
[08:23] <Kilos> lol
[08:24] <Kilos> we have to look past that and help in whatever way to get another person on ubuntu
[08:25] <inetpro> Kilos: then look at https://trello.com/c/2swQH0kX and do something about it
[08:25] <Kilos> and you are our number one pointer
[08:25] <Kilos> eish
[08:25] <inetpro> Kilos: no
[08:26] <Kilos> yaya you find things quicker than anyone
[08:28] <Kilos> sjoe youre joking right?
[08:32] <Kilos> now where is captine
[08:32] <Kilos> Maaz seen captine
[08:32] <Maaz> Kilos: captine was last seen 3 days, 13 hours, 12 minutes and 52 seconds ago in #ubuntu-za on freenode [2015-04-06 21:19:24 SAST], and has been offline on freenode since 2015-04-06 21:19:27 SAST
[08:38] <Kilos> inetpro done
[08:40] <inetpro> ai!
[08:40] <Kilos> lol
[08:40] <inetpro> what did you delete on Trello?
[08:40] <Kilos> that link
[08:40] <inetpro> why?
[08:40] <Kilos> and the investigate deb-delta
[08:41] <inetpro> why?
[08:41] <Kilos> deb-delta will never be achived
[08:41] <inetpro> ai!
[08:42] <Kilos> too much work for everyone concerned and all the extra space needed on the host
[08:42] <Kilos> but i have it in memory so neb=ver fear
[08:42] <Kilos> never either
[08:42] <inetpro> hmm...
[08:43] <Kilos> im the only one that has been after a deb-delta server anyway
[08:43] <Kilos> i think its a massive thing space wise
[08:43] <Kilos> almost everything doubled
[08:44] <Kilos> and then each user has to install deb-delta stuff as well to get it working
[08:44] * inetpro should remember to build a script to make automatic backups of the trello board
[08:44] <Kilos> only mobile peeps would even consider it
[08:46] <Kilos> i tried to archive them and the delete button showed up too clearly
[08:47] <Kilos> be honest, noone else has every bothered with deb-delta
[08:48] <inetpro> Kilos: I'll be honest, it's something I want to look at at some point when I have more time
[08:50] <Kilos> ok i will remind you
[08:50] <Kilos> just remember you need to get someone to host the extra on a server
[08:50] <Kilos> its a mirror alongside a mirror
[08:51] <Kilos> and its for all releases still in action so major space needed
[08:52] <inetpro> Kilos: so if you know it all, why didn't you update the card with the info?
[08:52] <inetpro> then we could have moved it to done as well
[08:53] <inetpro> ai!
[08:53] <Kilos> oh my
[08:53] <Kilos> sjoe sorry sir
[08:57] <Kilos> hi Rynomster
[09:03] <Kilos> hi drussell we good and you?
[09:13] <Rynomster> hey Kilos
[10:23] <mciverza> cheers all, am off again
[10:24] <Kilos> hmm...
[10:29] <Kilos> hi pieter2627
[10:29] <pieter2627> Evening all... Ooi oi Kilos
[10:30] <Kilos> lol jy ook tyd verskrik
[10:30] <pieter2627> half... was uit vir die ander helfte
[10:30] <Kilos> lol
[10:31] <Kilos> are you glad to be on the bug squad?
[10:31] <pieter2627> Yea, it seems like a lot of fun
[10:32] <Kilos> involved though
[10:32] <Kilos> was very interesting watching you two
[10:35] <pieter2627> You always ask everyone, so someone needs to ask you. Can you also help with bugs?
[10:35] <Kilos> im sure others were taking notes as well
[10:35] <pieter2627> I'm also keeping a reference to the log
[10:35] <Kilos> i even battle with bugs that fly around
[10:35] <pieter2627> * for easy review
[10:36] <Kilos> but i will supply moral support
[10:36] <Kilos> and stupid remarks now and again
[10:38] <pieter2627> sounds like triaging :P
[10:38] <Kilos> lol i dont even know what that means
[10:40] <pieter2627> filtering thru what is important and what is not, leaving remarks to get more info, finding dups...
[10:51] <Kilos> ah
[11:23] <drussell> Kilos: all good thanks, happy Friday all :oD
[11:23] <Kilos> lol
[12:11] <inetpro> Kilos: ping
[12:12] <Kilos> inetpro pong
[12:12] <Kilos> you still talking to me?
[12:16] <inetpro> Kilos: why not?
[12:16] <inetpro> you still have an issue with thunderbird contacts?
[12:17] <Kilos> ya the stupid thing
[12:18] <inetpro> ai!
[12:18] <Kilos> i made the vcard inported it 3 times and then made some lib thing to export and then reimport but it says it cant
[12:18] <inetpro> Kilos: don't bite the hand that feeds you
[12:19] <Kilos> now when i want an addy i open evo and get the addy there then use it in TB
[12:19] <Kilos> i tried for days with TB man
[12:19] <inetpro> did you export properly in Evolution?
[12:20] <Kilos> ya
[12:20] <Kilos> i can import the vcards
[12:21] <Kilos> but they dont save in the personal folder they just add on under it and i cant use them
[12:22] <Kilos> with the export it make lbi files or something right?
[12:22] <Kilos> evo makes the vcards
[12:22] <Kilos> tb imports them
[12:23] <Kilos> then tb must export them to make the lbii or whatever they are called
[12:23] <inetpro> the export in evolution should make a single file with all the vcards in it
[12:23] <Kilos> ya list.vcf
[12:24] <inetpro> ok, and when you import you select that
[12:24] <inetpro> what happens then?
[12:24] <Kilos> i cant remember
[12:24] <Kilos> lemme look
[12:25] <inetpro> go to Address Book | Tools | Import
[12:25] <Kilos> ya ive done theat
[12:25] <Kilos> that
[12:25] <Kilos> 3 times
[12:25] <inetpro> Select Address Books
[12:25] <inetpro> Next
[12:26] <inetpro> select vCard file
[12:26] <inetpro> Next
[12:26] <inetpro> select your file
[12:27] <inetpro> and what do get then?
[12:27] <Kilos> lemme post
[12:28] <Kilos> screen shot
[12:31] <inetpro> ai!
[12:32] <Kilos> http://pasteboard.co/2sCLDRxd.png
[12:33] <Kilos> you will see i did the inport thing a few times
[12:33] <Kilos> even named one addies
[12:33] <Kilos> they all show in thunderbird
[12:33] <Kilos> but i uses personal to send mails
[12:34] <inetpro> hmm...
[12:34] <inetpro> that screenshot only shows the import wizard
[12:35] <Kilos> oh my
[12:35] <inetpro> so where are the addresses added?
[12:35] <Kilos> http://pasteboard.co/2sCLDRxd.png
[12:35] <Kilos> sorry
[12:36] <inetpro> I see in the background you have Perso... Book, addies, list, list, list and Collec... esses
[12:36] <Kilos> oh thats same
[12:36] <Kilos> yaya thats them
[12:37] <inetpro> so then it was successful, what the problem is?
[12:37] <Kilos> all addresses are in them
[12:37] <Kilos> but when i send a mail it uses personal and the addies arent in there they are in all the others
[12:38] <Kilos> that link said then you must export them to make a new file and then import that file
[12:38] <Kilos> that didnt work it said cant import them
[12:42] <inetpro> Kilos, Kilos, Kilos
[12:42] <Kilos> yessir
[12:42] <inetpro> did you do some little bit of RTFS even?
[12:42] <Kilos> lots
[12:42] <inetpro> ai!
[12:43] <Kilos> have you still got that link?
[12:43] <inetpro> you can change your preferences sir
[12:43] <Kilos> oh
[12:44] <inetpro> Kilos: and on top of that, you can simply highlight and drag and drop addresses from one sub folder to the other
[12:45] <Kilos> i think it wouldnt allow me to
[12:45] <Kilos> couldnt or something
[12:45] <Kilos> in prefernces i ticked use addies but it doesnt
[12:45] <inetpro> try
[12:45] <Kilos> ok
[12:47] <Kilos> oh ya i can ctrl+a them but cant paste them into personal
[12:48] <Kilos> or ctrl+v
[12:49] <inetpro> Kilos: drag
[12:49] <inetpro> Kilos: and
[12:49] <inetpro> Kilos: drop
[12:49] <inetpro> but honestly, it should even matter
[12:50] <Kilos> drag drop addies into personal?
[12:51] <inetpro> in Preferences | Composition | Addressing | When addressing messages... | [X] Local Address Books
[12:52] <inetpro> Kilos: if that is ticked it doesn't matter which sub folder the contacts are in
[12:52] <Kilos> lemme see
[12:53] <Kilos> ya that is ticked
[12:53] <inetpro> now please explain what you struggle with from here
[12:53] <Kilos> but it still doesnt find an addy when i start typing it in
[12:54] <Kilos> i have to manuall enter a complete address
[12:55] <inetpro> this when typing a new message?
[12:55] <Kilos> yes
[12:55] <inetpro> so, what happens if you press F9?
[12:55] <Kilos> at what stage
[12:56] <inetpro> while writing a new message - Title: 'Write: (no subject)'
[12:57] <inetpro> same as pressing the View menu and selecting Contacts Sidebar
[12:57] <inetpro> F9 = same as pressing the View menu and selecting Contacts Sidebar
[12:58] <Kilos> lemme try
[12:59] <Kilos> that works then i can start typing 4 letters and it see all related addies
[12:59] <Kilos> ty inetpro
[12:59] <Kilos> now i must remember F9 too
[13:01] * Kilos releases that hand from my jaws
[13:01] <Kilos> dinkie boetie
[13:01] <Kilos> raining here now
[13:04] <inetpro> ai!
[13:05] <Kilos> ai! for me too, gotta go find sheep in the rain
[13:05] <Kilos> will wait till it stops
[13:11] <Kilos> big thunder and lightening here now
[13:17] <pieter2627> we have a lot of thunder; will see you guys later
[13:17] <Kilos> ok
[13:29] <inetpro> Kilos: no
[13:29] <inetpro> no need to remember F9
[13:29] <Kilos> sigh
[13:30] <inetpro> just remember RTFS
[13:30] <Kilos> oh i saw that ty inetpro
[13:30] <inetpro> S = Screen in this case
[13:30] <Kilos> sigh
[13:31] <Kilos> it seems to have them found now
[13:31] <inetpro> just click on the menu and see what options are available for you
[13:32] <Kilos> if its working i dont want to even look further. i just want to send some and see
[13:33] <inetpro> Kilos: so you still call it "the stupid thing"?
[13:33] <Kilos> lol
[13:37] <Kilos> ya now everytime i write new iIT opens the F9 thing and fails sending
[13:37] <Kilos> when hitting F9 again i seem to be able to send
[13:38] <Kilos> just sent you one to test
[13:39] <inetpro> did it give you an error message?
[13:39] <Kilos> yes
[13:39] <Kilos> failed
[13:40] <Kilos> and lots of rtfs
[13:40] <Kilos> if i hit F9 to close it then IT seems to work
[13:40] <Kilos> hee hee
[13:41] <inetpro> there's no magic
[13:41] <Kilos> every new mail it opens the F9 option
[13:42] <Kilos> if IT wasnt so much faster than evo i wouldnt use IT
[13:42] <Kilos> oh and the buntu thing too
[13:43] <Kilos> dont make me laugh man head too sore
[13:43] <Kilos> i dont mind hitting F9 everytime
[13:44] <Kilos> cloud cover clearing up here now
[14:02] <Kilos> wow we are min today
[14:02] <Kilos> marketing strategy fail
[14:51] <Kilos> wb Tonberry
[14:51] <SDCDev> min today? te min mense?
[14:51] <SDCDev> or min like bleak
[14:52] <Kilos> ya so sad
[14:52] <Kilos> im digging int hte archives now to see if i can revive some of the long missing ones
[14:54] <Kilos> wb pieter2627
[14:59] <Kilos> oi
[14:59] <Kilos> SDCDev min like bleak?
[15:00] <Kilos> you lost me
[15:01] <magespawn> hi Kilos, back in the office, about to go home, did i miss the bug thing?
[15:02] <Kilos> nope magespawn the quad guy hasnt arrived yet
[15:02] <magespawn> bleak is slang, depressed, not happy
[15:02] <Kilos> oh ty
[15:03] <Kilos> not kinda whitish because of blood draining outa head
[15:03] <Kilos> hehe
[15:03] <magespawn> right will chat later
[15:03] <Kilos> go safe
[16:34] <Kilos> evening superfly
[16:34] <superfly> hi, bye. Gotta go.
[16:43] <inetpro> good evening
[16:53] <Kilos> evening inetpro ty for the help with IT
[16:53] <Kilos> IT seems almost a usable app now
[16:59] <Kilos> i go eat
[17:26] <magespawn> good evening
[17:28] <Kilos> hi magespawn
[17:42] <magespawn> so what's up tonight?
[17:42] <Kilos> im waiting to see as well
[17:42] <magespawn> still waiting on the bug?
[17:46] <Kilos> lol
[17:48] <Kilos> i think octoquad got busy or called out or something
[18:03] <magespawn> that happens too
[18:04] <Kilos> hi gremble
[18:05] <gremble> Hello Kilos
[18:09] <gremble> gah
[18:10] <Kilos> what you broke
[18:11] <gremble> For some odd reason, this keeps reconnecting inappropriately
[18:11] <Kilos> lol
[18:11] <inetpro> Kilos: you can ask Tonberry to also join ubuntu-za on LP
[18:11] <Kilos> hasnt he?
[18:12] <inetpro> nope
[18:12] <gremble> The more I read haskell, the prettier it gets
[18:12] <gremble> I think that I may be starting to like it more than c++
[18:12] <Kilos> lp member since 2006-05-26
[18:12] <inetpro> Kilos: and barrydk
[18:13] <Kilos> lol gremble any learning is better than none
[18:13] <inetpro> Kilos: member of which group?
[18:13] <Kilos> is this a quiz?
[18:13] <inetpro> Kilos: yes
[18:13] <Kilos> hahahaha
[18:14] <inetpro> because you might just be failing again to RTFS
[18:14] <Kilos> oh well give me the link where peeps join za then
[18:14] <gremble> Read the fucking screen?
[18:14] <inetpro> ai!
[18:14] <Kilos> eeek
[18:14] <inetpro> Maaz: rtfs
[18:14] <Maaz> Read the Freaking Source/Spec/Screen
[18:14] <Kilos> gremble my sensitive nature
[18:14] <inetpro> gremble: ^^
[18:14] <gremble> Ah ha
[18:15] <gremble> TIL
[18:15] <inetpro> :-)
[18:15] <Kilos> and the lady present
[18:15] <gremble> You're afraid of a little vulgarity Kilos? :o
[18:15] <Kilos> ive never sworn in from of a lady
[18:15] <Kilos> front
[18:15] <gremble> There is a first time for everything :P
[18:16] <inetpro> Kilos: never is a long time
[18:16] <gremble> I try not to swear, but RTFM has swearing in it
[18:16] <gremble> I am not averse to profanity though
[18:16] <Kilos> you got so much energy why dont you join launchpad ubuntu-za
[18:16] <gremble> I have an account there
[18:16] <Kilos> in za
[18:17] <gremble> I had to make one to comment on the LoCo page
[18:17] <gremble> I'm not going to make another account D:
[18:17] <Kilos> good then please add yourself here https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ZATeam/Members
[18:17] <gremble> I'm not a member. I'm just here to swear
[18:18] <Kilos> eeeek
[18:18] <inetpro> Kilos: Tonberry is a member of Maties Ubuntu but not the South African Ubuntu team
[18:18] <Kilos> you gotta join us to keep me happy
[18:18] <gremble> :p
[18:18] <gremble> Why does Stellenbosch have their own ubuntu team?
[18:19] <inetpro> gremble: we should have more such groups
[18:19] <gremble> Why? Fracturing hurts communities
[18:20] <inetpro> erm, maybe
[18:20] <magespawn> a bit like lug's
[18:20] <inetpro> maybe not
[18:20] <gremble> But yes. Perhaps having people close by with meetings that can be attended in person is better
[18:21] <gremble> than having a meeting over IRC
[18:21] <Kilos> inetpro you convince gremble and ill get tonberry in the morning
[18:21] <inetpro> would be nice if we could have strong smaller localised groups
[18:22] <inetpro> when the Africa team has managed to have a life of it's own we'll appoint Kilos to focus on creating smaller groups in each town
[18:22] <Kilos> eish
[18:22] <gremble> :P
[18:23] <Kilos> oh inetpro i want you to make a list please
[18:23] <inetpro> gremble: success breeds success :-)
[18:23] <gremble> And you'll be the his secretary inetpro
[18:23] <gremble> :P
[18:23] <Kilos> hehe
[18:24] <Kilos> https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-za/+members?active_batch=75
[18:24] <Kilos> go through those 82 and tell me who you remember and would like back here
[18:24] <inetpro> uh
[18:24] <inetpro> no
[18:24] <Kilos> note 82
[18:24] <Kilos> ai!
[18:24] <gremble> I'm actually laughing out loud
[18:24] <Kilos> ok ill just approach them all
[18:25] <magespawn> and we want that done before 20:45 no later
[18:25] <Kilos> hehe
[18:25] * inetpro hiding in the top corner again
[18:26] <magespawn> today, just in case that was not clear
[18:26] <Kilos> lol
[18:27] <Kilos> and note i said please
[18:27] <Kilos> dont bite the hand that feeds you
[18:28] <Kilos> inetpro ping
[18:28] <Kilos> sigh
[18:28] * inetpro is not here
[18:28] <Kilos> now tomorrow he says pong
[18:28] <inetpro> :-)
[18:28] <Kilos> lol
[18:28] <inetpro> what's wrong Kilos?
[18:29] <Kilos> ai!
[18:29] <Kilos> now i forgot
[18:29] <inetpro> Kilos: sorry but I have other things that keep me busy
[18:29] <Kilos> oh i see that banks guy is a za member
[18:29] <Kilos> np
[18:30] <Kilos> ill do it
[18:30] <inetpro> you can call on your other minions to help you
[18:31] <inetpro> gremble: help him!
[18:31] <gremble> Psh :P When this computer is open it means that I am programming :P
[18:32] <Kilos> no man
[18:32] <Kilos> you know the old peeps
[18:33] <inetpro> Kilos: please don't force people to take part or even to expose themselves
[18:34] <Kilos> ok
[18:34] <gremble> expose themselves?
[18:34] <Kilos> i dont force anyone
[18:34] <inetpro> some peeps prefer to have a private life
[18:34] <Kilos> sigh
[18:35] <Kilos> ok ill find new peeps
[18:35] <Kilos> like gremble
[18:39] <gremble> Am I a new peep or are you going to find people like me or do I prefer to have a private life?
[18:40] <Kilos> im gonna find peeps like you
[18:40] <gremble> I broke my haskell compiler I think
[18:40] <Kilos> clever ones that can do the hard work for me
[18:40] <Kilos> fix it
[18:53] <Kilos> inetpro when you are quiet i worry you adding more stuff to trello
[18:57] <Kilos> maybe ill have an early night
[18:57] <Kilos> night all. sleep tight
[18:57] <Kilos> see m ya morrow
[19:19] <inetpro> ai!
[20:22] <magespawn> i am also off to bed, good night all
[20:24] <gremble> cheers
[20:24] <gremble> When Kilos isn't here, it gets quite quiet
[20:24] <gremble> :p
[20:32] <inetpro> gremble: your fault
[20:32] <inetpro> Tonberry: wb
[20:34] <gremble> probably
[20:35] <inetpro> lol
[20:46] <gremble> They make such a fuss about the typing in Haskell, and sure it looks neat and a lot more math-like, but it is not as novel
[20:46] <gremble> I think
[20:46] <gremble> The idea certainly isn't
[20:59] * inetpro has never even looked at Haskell
[21:10] <pieter2627> night all
[21:30] <gremble> inetpro: it is pretty neat. I normally dislike programming, but so far I am having a lot of fun
[21:30] <gremble> currently confused as to why I cannot make a type signiture for a function that takes a list of numbers and returns a mean value
[21:30] <inetpro> link?
[21:30] <gremble> regardless of whether the input list is floating point or integer values
[21:31] <gremble> Sec, let me see if I can find a nice example
[21:31] <gremble> I'm using o'reilly's book
[21:33] <inetpro> hmm...
[21:34] <inetpro> wish I had enough money to pay for all these fantastic books out there
[21:34] <gremble> I nicked it from piratebay
[21:34] * inetpro can't even affor a single one of them
[21:34] <inetpro> afford*
[21:35] <gremble> okay, try learnyouahaskell.com look at the online version there are some code examples floating around
[21:38] <inetpro> gremble: so you start by installing haskell-platform from the standard repositories?
[21:39] <gremble> Oh. Ya. You have to install a bunch of shit. It's not like C or C++ where everything is there already
[21:39] <inetpro> hmm...
[21:39] <inetpro> Need to get 56,5 MB of archives...
[21:39] <gremble> Are you internet stingy? :o
[21:40] <inetpro> yep, only the 10th in the mobth and already running low
[21:40] <inetpro> month*
[21:41] <inetpro> gremble: thanks for the link
[21:42] <gremble> Ah. then you should probably not download whillynilly
[21:45] <inetpro> gremble: added card on trello for later or for others https://trello.com/c/skXdujJP
[21:49] * inetpro thinking
[21:49] <inetpro> we should perhaps add another page on the wiki for Tips, Tricks & Links under our team
[21:50] <inetpro> for reference purposes or to share experiences so others can get a nice kickstart
[21:52] <gremble> Yes, why not. It is not like you have to pay for wiki pages
[21:53] <gremble> Can also add the documentation project on the site I think
[21:53] <gremble> Have it there until it is large enough to be its own thing
[21:53] <inetpro> exactly
[21:54] <gremble> I hope I get time to contribute to that. I would enjoy that
[21:55] <inetpro> gremble: can you perhaps start it at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ZATeam/TipsTricksAndLinks ?
[21:59] <inetpro> or call it something else if you want
[22:00] <gremble> What do you want on this page?
[22:00] <inetpro> not sure yet, to be honest... was just a thought
[22:01] <inetpro> but I'm sure it could be useful and get a life of it's own
[22:01] <gremble> Its there
[22:01] <gremble> stefanor, davidc3 and voodoo-eu will be notified apparently
[22:01] <inetpro> and me
[22:01] <inetpro> :-)
[22:02] <gremble> Those names are the only ones that the website mentioned
[22:02] <gremble> Sorry :o
[22:02] * inetpro just subscribed
[22:03] <inetpro> where did the time go?
[22:03] <inetpro> good night
[22:03] <gremble> Cheers
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[05:38] <Guest50312> i'm in the live image, using it now, of kubuntu 15.04, and the installer crashes on efi as per this bug report; https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubiquity/+bug/1428877 how do i work around it or fix it
[08:09] <sitter> Riddell: ping
[08:09] <ovidiu-florin> What's the state of Wayland on Kubuntu?
[08:09] <sitter> Riddell: should I branch a kubuntu_vivid_backports from stable in plasma repos?
[08:10] <sitter> actually I probably should let it integrate first
[08:10] <sitter> ovidiu-florin: it exists
[08:11] <ovidiu-florin> Can it be used?
[08:11] <sitter> sure
[08:11] <sitter> just not productively
[08:11] <sitter> just not for the majority of apps
[08:11] <sitter> just not for 90% of the things you want to do with it
[08:13] <sitter> IIRC the timeline for kwin was having something usable early 2016 which we might then test or focus transition on with 16.10 (after lts)
[08:16] <mgraesslin> as long as the nvidia situation is not solved I doubt Kubuntu will be able to do a default transition anyway
[08:16] <Riddell> hi sitter
[08:17] <Riddell> sitter: I'm confused why would you branch kubuntu_vivid_backports?
[08:17] <Riddell> mgraesslin: which nvidia situation?
[08:17] <ovidiu-florin> My question exactly
[08:19] <Riddell> I think nvidia has many situations :)
[08:19] <Riddell> sitter: bug 1442512 has been reported as significant
[08:20] <mgraesslin> Riddell: not supporting Wayland
[08:21] <ovidiu-florin> You mean the driver is hard-coded Xorg?
[08:21] <ovidiu-florin> For *
[08:22] <mgraesslin> no
[08:22] <ovidiu-florin> mgraesslin: what about on Intel boards?
[08:23] <mgraesslin> ?
[08:24] <ovidiu-florin> If nvidia has issues with Wayland, does intel have them as well?
[08:25] <mgraesslin> you know that Wayland is mainly an Intel thing?
[08:26] <ovidiu-florin> I'm missing some knowledge
[08:28] <ovidiu-florin> Is wikipedia a good starting point?
[08:29] <Riddell> ovidiu-florin: keith packard works for intel and does muchos wayland as I understand it
[08:30] <mgraesslin> Riddell: wrong
[08:30] <Riddell> I never said I understand it right :)
[08:30] <mgraesslin> Riddell: keith works for HP
[08:30] <mgraesslin> but he used to work for intel
[08:30] <ovidiu-florin> On Wayland?
[08:30] <mgraesslin> mostly X
[08:31] <ovidiu-florin> I thought development stopped for Xorg
[08:31] <Riddell> "Dave Morley (davmor2) renewed their own membership in the Kubuntu Members" yay davmor2 still loves us!
[08:31] <mgraesslin> no
[08:33] <sitter> Riddell: vivid_backports for whoever is going to package it at soome point
[08:33] <sitter> seeing as plasma 5.3 would land in backports
[08:33] <sitter> just like apps15.04
[08:33] <sitter> alas, that also hasn't been packaged so there's that
[08:34] <sitter> Riddell: that apport crash is in breeze
[08:34] <sitter> in fact, it might actually be pyqt
[08:35] <sitter> I recall shadeslayer did workarounds to do with destruction of the app
[08:35] <Riddell> sitter: I'd leave branching until someone does the packaging
[08:38] <sitter> fair enough
[08:38] <sitter> Python Exception <type 'exceptions.RuntimeError'> Type does not have a target.:
[08:46] <sitter> Riddell: I think that something in apport-kde raises an exception which causes an abort which then crashes breeze because something is not deconstructing properly
[08:47] <ovidiu-florin> mgraesslin: do you use KDevelop?
[08:47] <sitter> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/apport/+bugs?orderby=-id&start=0
[08:47] <mgraesslin> yes
[08:47] <sitter> Riddell: bug 1440585 probably
[08:51] <sitter> Riddell: you didn't update the runtime deps of the package Oo
[08:55] <Riddell> oops
[09:03] <sitter> Riddell: fix in queue
[09:04] <sitter> also
[09:04] <sitter> libmuon/backends/ApplicationBackend/ApplicationNotifier.cpp: i18n("System update available!"),
[09:04] <sitter> that's what is causing the notification spam on apt update
[09:05] <Riddell> mm right
[09:05] <Riddell> it's a reasonable thing to notify about but it needs to be a bit more clever about when it notifies
[09:07] <sitter> the konsole crash is so flipping annoying
[09:07] <Riddell> I'm glad you agree
[09:07] <Riddell> it's not too hard to port away from KUniqueApplication
[09:08] <Riddell> but that seems inelegant
[09:08] <Riddell> I want to know why other distros don't seem to get it
[09:19] <lordievader> Good morning.
[09:23] <sitter> well then
[09:23] <sitter> Riddell: I don't think that apport crash is new
[09:23] <sitter> or rather... I don't see how it could be new
[09:24] <sitter> it queries properties of the apport report object and for some reason it runs into a property that is a bytearray rather than a string to which pyqt says nono
[09:25] <sitter> so chances are the underlyign problem is really that the code in question is run on a property that has a bytearray where the bytearray most likely doesn't contain something that should be printed anyway
[09:29] <sitter> sure doesn't help that I can't reproduce it with an actual crash
[09:32] <Riddell> :( thanks for looking into it
[09:37] <sitter> what we can do is force encode to utf8 string
[09:37] <sitter> that would make it not raise an exception, although, the exception here isn't fatal if I cause it
[09:38] <sitter> so there must be something else astray on the affected systems
[10:03] <xennex81> morning ovidiu-florin
[10:03] <xennex81> <-- uses names :p
[10:04] <ovidiu-florin> morning
[10:05] <lordievader> o/
[10:05] <ovidiu-florin> can someone help me here with an IRC issue?
[10:05] <Riddell> just ask :)
[10:06] <ovidiu-florin> Riddell: in private
[10:08] <yofel> sitter: lp 1271599
[10:09] <sitter> yofel: that should go in the packaging not the bug report
[10:09] <yofel> well, we can make a README.Debian I guess
[10:10] <yofel> I'm more interested on your opinion on the virtual-* stuff
[10:10] <yofel> *in
[10:10] <sitter> such a long read
[10:11] <sitter> I'm in favor
[10:12] <sitter> though I will also say that I wasn't too happy about the mariadb alternate. a package harddepping mariadb getting installed can totally bust a users akonadi without him realizing
[10:12] <sitter> or vice versa for that matter
[10:14] <yofel> sure, I mean we already had that issue with just mysql, which caused the backend getting replaced by sqlite. apt would happily replace mariadb-10 with mysql-5.6 if there's a problem
[10:14] <yofel> There's not really anything you can do against that though as long as we don't ship an embedded copy of mysql
[10:15] <yofel> only alternative is to only depend on mysql-5.6, which then means that people can't use mariadb or percona
[10:16] <sitter> yeah, it is somewhat meh
[10:20] <yofel> sitter: how about removing the hard dep on a-b-m, depping on virtual-* and instead adding a-b-m and mysql-server-core-5.6 to kubuntu-desktop deps?
[10:20] <yofel> That's meh too, but maybe better represents what we actually support and what not...
[10:20] <ovidiu-florin> apt-get doesn't support wildcards anymore?
[10:20] <yofel> it should...
[10:20] <yofel> what did you use?
[10:20] <ovidiu-florin> yeah... it's regex now, not wildcards
[10:21] <yofel> aah
[10:22] <sitter> eh?
[10:23] <sitter> apt-get doesn't have a perl regex parser and even the posix regex parsing is quite the hacky awfulness
[10:24] <ovidiu-florin> apt-get install libkf5*-dev
[10:24] <ovidiu-florin> doesn't work ^
[10:24] <ovidiu-florin> apt-get install libkf5.*-dev
[10:25] <ovidiu-florin> works ^
[10:25] <Guest50312> i'm in the live image, using it now, of kubuntu 15.04, and the installer crashes on efi as per this bug report; https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubiquity/+bug/1428877 how do i work around it or fix it
[10:26] <Guest50312> http://pastebin.com/ZNrdthMC
[10:29] <lordievader> ovidiu-florin: Perhaps your shell tries to do the regex parsing?
[10:30] <ovidiu-florin> it does
[10:31] <ovidiu-florin> can you install libkf5people-data in Vivid?
[10:31] <ovidiu-florin> I can't
[10:31] <lordievader> I'm not running Vivid at the moment.
[10:31] <yofel> trying to overwrite '/usr/share/locale/fr/LC_MESSAGES/libkpeople.mo', which is also in package libkpeople4 0.3.0-0ubuntu1
[10:32] <yofel> meh
[10:32] <ovidiu-florin> so... what to do?
[10:35] <yofel> for now... you could do a --force-overwrite
[10:36] * yofel isn't sure how to fix that in a sane way..
[10:36] <ovidiu-florin> uninstall
[10:37] <yofel> sure you can remove libkpeople4, but here that removes:
[10:37] <yofel> kde-config-telepathy-accounts kde-telepathy kde-telepathy-auth-handler kde-telepathy-call-ui kde-telepathy-contact-list kde-telepathy-declarative kde-telepathy-filetransfer-handler kde-telepathy-integration-module kde-telepathy-kpeople
[10:37] <yofel> kde-telepathy-minimal kde-telepathy-send-file kde-telepathy-text-ui kdenetwork kdenetwork-strigi-analyzers krfb libkpeople4 libktpcommoninternalsprivate8 libktploggerprivate8 libktpmodelsprivate8 libktpotrprivate8 libktpwidgetsprivate8
[10:37] <yofel> plasma-runner-telepathy-contact
[10:37] <ovidiu-florin> no\
[10:38] <ovidiu-florin> remove libkf5people-data
[10:38] <yofel> if you don't need libkf5people, sure
[10:44] <sitter> ovidiu-florin: that sounds more like your shell is parsing that before apt has a chance
[10:45] <sitter> yofel: raise upstream
[10:45] <sitter> frameworks aren't supposed to conflict old stuff
[10:45] <sitter> Riddell: ^
[10:45] <yofel> even the translations?
[10:47] <sitter> yes
[10:54] <Riddell> yofel: where is that from?
[10:54] <yofel> libkf5people-data
[10:54] <Riddell> yofel: mm right, that's an upstream bug indeed
[11:09] <Riddell> sitter: how's the iso doing for today? I'm in need of screenshots
[11:09] <soee_> guys any idea for this http://paste.ubuntu.com/10790724/ ?
[11:09] <soee_> i asked about it a long ago even added bug for sddm but it was said it is distro related
[11:12] <sitter> Riddell: batter widget blew up overnight, so I am now tossing a coin on whether to roll a new iso of the completely new stable builds or go with the iso from yesterday or go with the battery broken iso from today's master
[11:12] <sitter> *battery
[11:32] <BluesKaj> Hiyas all
[11:33] <soee_> hiho BluesKaj
[11:34] <BluesKaj> hey soee_
[11:55] <Guest50312> i'm in the live image, using it now, of kubuntu 15.04, and the installer crashes on efi as per this bug report; https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubiquity/+bug/1428877 how do i work around it or fix it
[11:55] <Guest50312> http://pastebin.com/ZNrdthMC
[12:07] <soee_> Guest50312: no idea i never hd this problem
[12:11] <BluesKaj> I thought there already was an efi partition on the machine at purchase, and linux has to install grub on it , is this correct?
[12:22] <Guest50312> i do have an efi partition
[12:22] <Guest50312> i also have my bios set for "insecure boot"
[12:23] <BluesKaj> I'm not sure , but i think it should be secure for efi mode
[12:24] <Guest50312> maybe, but 14.04 and 14.10 never complained
[12:25] <Guest50312> its something specific to the installer in vivid 15.04
[12:42] <BluesKaj> perhaps Guest50312 , I didn't fool around with efi when I got my laptop , just wiped the whole hdd clean then partitioned to ntfs and ext4 for dual booting W7 and Kubuntu, because at the time there was so much trouble with linux on efi I decided to bypass the problem entirely.
[12:55] <Guest50312> BluesKaj: i also whiped windows off and went straight linux. i have been windowless since about 2000
[12:56] <Guest50312> but this is also the first laptop i've had that has efi, so on my previous installations, as i mentioned earlier, 14.04 and 14.10 i was able to install with efi partition no prob. now vivid is beta 2 and ubi-partman crashes on efi
[12:57] <BluesKaj> yes, I understand a lot of users are reluctant to drop uefi since linux has mostly solved the installation problems with it
[12:57] <Guest50312> right
[12:57] <Guest50312> what i'm trying now is just deleting the efi partition and see if that will work
[12:58] <Guest50312> since i am booting insecurely, i should be ok
[12:58] <BluesKaj> it should work, that's what's puzzling about your crashes
[12:59] <Guest50312> but that doesnt really address the installer crashing on efi
[12:59] <Guest50312> well, i gave the link to pastebin
[12:59] <Guest50312> that shows the log of what happened
[13:20] <BluesKaj> Guest50312, beta 2 is available in the dailies , maybe you'll have better luck with it
[13:23] <Guest50312> ty BluesKaj, thats where i got this image from
[13:31] <sitter> Riddell: the touchpad kcm is weirdly broken or something
[13:31] <sitter> cmake that is
[13:31] <Riddell> oh?
[13:31] <Riddell> I just took a screenshot of it, can't be that broken
[13:33] <sitter> what the fuck
[13:36] <sitter> I am going so mad about this fucking plunder repos with everything and the kitchen sink in it
[13:36] <yofel> which one? ^^
[13:37] <yofel> we have a couple kitchen sinks..
[13:37] <shadeslayer> where? I don't think I've seen one in the office for over a year and a half
[13:37] <shadeslayer> Riddell: ^^ get it ? :P
[13:38] <yofel> shadeslayer: how the hell do you guys endure summer in the office? ^^
[13:38] <shadeslayer> we have AC's but no sinks xD
[13:39] <yofel> ah, that works too ^^
[13:39] <Riddell> ACs that sometimes work, but indeed no sink, if you have a spare one send it this way
[13:45] <ovidiu-florin> KDESVN is not available in vivid
[13:45] <sitter> Riddell: I don't get why plasma-sdk is in workspace btw
[13:46] <Riddell> sitter: is it?
[13:46] <Riddell> ovidiu-florin: I'm afraid it overlapped with something in kf5 land
[13:47] <sitter> Riddell: getting released with workspace makes it a workspace thing, no?
[13:47] <Riddell> sitter: getting released with plasma makes it a plasma thing
[13:47] <Riddell> there is no workspace thing
[13:48] <sitter> right
[13:48] <sitter> so why does my mom's plasma need an sdk?
[13:48] <xennex81> mom jokes on the way
[13:48] <xennex81> :p
[13:48] <sitter> I hereby herald the return of kde sc because there officially is no more distinction between frameworks, plasma and apps
[13:48] <Riddell> I doubt it goes, but if she wants to write a plasmoid she knows where to go
[13:49] <Riddell> s/goes/does/
[13:49] <kubotu_> Riddell meant: "I doubt it does, but if she wants to write a plasmoid she knows where to go"
[14:24] <ovidiu-florin> Riddell: any idea what?
[14:25] <Riddell> ovidiu-florin: kiosvn I think
[14:39] <soee_> Riddell: so who shoudl i ping to make nvidia propriety drivers work in 15.04 ?
[14:40] <Riddell> soee_: tseliot on #ubuntu-devel (alberto) is the dude who's been working on it
[15:05] <ovidiu-florin> I love working in Beta :D I get lot's of updates
[15:05] * ovidiu-florin is an update addict
[15:20] <soee_> ovidiu-florin: +1 :)
[15:32] <sgclark> morning
[15:33] <soee_> good mornign sgclark
[15:36] <Riddell> sgclark!
[15:36] <Riddell> hola chica
[15:36] <sgclark> hi :)
[15:36] <yofel> moin
[15:37] <sgclark> anyone get to applications? I have some time today if not
[15:38] <Riddell> sgclark: we have kf5, apps (backports) and plasma 5.3 beta backports to do
[15:38] <Riddell> I guess kf5 is the highest priority as that could maybe still go into the archive
[15:39] <sgclark> okies I will start with kf5 and go from there
[15:45] <Riddell> sgclark: thanks :)
[15:45] <Riddell> sgclark: I think that'll need kubuntu_unstable merged in
[15:45] <Riddell> sgclark: oh and modemmanager is new but needs plasma-nm patched for it
[15:45] <sgclark> Riddell: yeah rounding up sitter emails and the gem script he gave me
[15:46] <sgclark> patched?
[15:46] <Riddell> https://www.kde.org/announcements/kde-frameworks-5.9.0.php plasma-nm patch there
[15:46] <sgclark> Riddell: ok
[15:46] <Riddell> modemmanager was previously part of plasma
[15:47] <sgclark> right
[15:52] <soee_> sgclark: i can always do tests :)
[15:52] <sgclark> :)
[15:52] <sgclark> will be a few, I have to update my chroots etc
[16:02] <ovidiu-florin> quick vote: how would you feel about spliting the community page in Contribute and Support?
[16:02] <ovidiu-florin> http://kubwp.kubuntu.co.uk/community/
[16:04] <yofel> wouldn't that duplicate support content? contribute OTOH could probably be folded into community though
[16:07] <yofel> hm, wait, support is already only linked (ask ubuntu is also community though..)
[16:07] <ovidiu-florin> contribute is a more call to action term
[16:07] <soee_> @ frontpage, i would replace the first icon (download) with something else, and put a big Download button in banner section
[16:08] <soee_> one sec, ill show you one of my old drafts
[16:08] <yofel> why not make the banner a link?
[16:09] <soee_> https://cloud.soee.pl/index.php/s/3w9ehEhlvpvwBgw
[16:10] <soee_> yofel: i woudl also separat ebanner image (us eonly backgorund) and put text on separate layer
[16:10] <yofel> that could work
[16:11] <yofel> FWIW, if you want a green download button, you might as well color the Download entry in the navbar green
[16:12] <Riddell> sgclark: the most time consuming part of frameworks is that launchpad isn't clever enough to work out the retries so you need to run ./kubuntu-retry-builds to fix it (see README)
[16:13] <yofel> hm, that looks ugly tough -.-
[16:13] <sgclark> Riddell: okies
[16:13] <yofel> soee_: is the banner intentionally that huge? On my 1600x900 notebook the only text I see at first is the navbar and the banner... the icons below are too far down
[16:14] <soee_> yofel: ithink banner shoudl be the main element visible on frontpage when user hits it
[16:14] <yofel> Riddell: does updating kf5 to 5.9 in vivid actually fix any serious bugs? Or what use case does it have less than a week before final freeze...?
[16:14] <soee_> and it shudl contain text about current kubuntu version and maybe some motto + button to download page
[16:15] <yofel> soee_: not arguing against that, but what I see is https://kyofel.de/owncloud/index.php/s/mqX2uqmrEQikaK8
[16:15] <yofel> which... doesn't feel quite right
[16:16] <yofel> (ignore the green at the top ^^)
[16:19] <soee_> well the banner could be even bigger imo
[16:20] <soee_> example http://www.gt3themes.com/website-templates/groutek/home_type4.html
[16:20] <Riddell> yofel: it's 0.1 better? it means we can backport plasma without worrying about backporting frameworks with it?
[16:21] <yofel> soee_: that would be better, yeah
[16:21] <Riddell> yofel: even if it doesn't go in it's not like it's wasting scarlett's time it'll go into backports ppa
[16:21] <Riddell> infact it could go into backports backports
[16:21] <yofel> Riddell: sure, didn't argue about that. My hair just stands up if I read uploads with patchery so close to release...
[16:28] <soee_> Riddell: when this patch from tseliot might land in vivid ?
[16:31] <Riddell> soee_: when someone adds it, my head's pretty broken just now so I can't right now
[16:34] <soee_> why broken :) ?
[16:42] <Riddell> soee_: oh randomness of a head with a head injury, but it's friday evening so I guess it knows I've been spending too long on the plasma 5.3 announcement
[16:42] <soee_> take a break :)
[16:45] <Riddell> mm, now you mention it, good idea :)
[17:01] <sgclark> Riddell: gosh I am so freaking confused on all this merge stuff, I merge unstable to backport sor what ? where? sigh
[17:04] * soee_ wonders why it is so complicated :)
[17:04] <sgclark> I am sure it isn't but I have had my kde hat on for too long and fell behind
[17:14] <sgclark> ok I hate ruby
[17:15] <shadeslayer> :O
[17:15] <shadeslayer> why
[17:16] <sgclark> I am alway missing gems and can't sort how where to get them
[17:16] <sgclark> error pft
[17:17] <sgclark> wtf
[17:17] <yofel> ruby has no virtualenv?
[17:17] <sgclark> everytime I try to install a gem I get package metadata is missing two seperate computers now
[17:17] <sgclark> again I hate ruby
[17:18] <sgclark> all I want to do is run this merge script :(
[17:19] <Riddell> sgclark: for frameworks it's just kubuntu_unstable into kubuntu_vivid_archive
[17:20] <yofel> why is it unstable for a released version of frameworks o.O?
[17:20] <Riddell> soee_: it's complex because there's kde stable and unstable, frameworks, plasma and applications and ubuntu vivid and 14.10
[17:20] <Riddell> so that's a lot of combinations
[17:20] <yofel> oh right, frameworks has no branches
[17:21] <yofel> shadeslayer: could one of you CI people please make a README for the branch merging?
[17:22] <shadeslayer> yofel: https://community.kde.org/images.community/a/a5/Kubuntu_CI_Mergeflow.png
[17:22] <sgclark> Riddell: okies, well I can't even get this script to work
[17:22] <shadeslayer> yofel: https://community.kde.org/Kubuntu/CI#Merges
[17:23] <Riddell> sgclark: kubuntu-initial-upload does already have a git merge command in it, it's not well tested but it should merge while packaging
[17:24] <sgclark> Riddell: ahh lovely
[17:24] <sgclark> thanks
[17:24] <Riddell> just needs a -b unstable (I hope)
[17:26] <yofel> shadeslayer: ok, that's something at least
[17:27] <yofel> Riddell: that's not the correct error handling... or do you really log the whole script output and grep for what couldn't be merged?
[17:28] <yofel> I'm curious what your workflow is there..
[17:29] <sgclark> shadeslayer: logger/colors ? what can I install to make that available to ruby
[17:30] <sgclark> colorize did nothing, ruby-color did nothing
[17:31] <Riddell> yofel: in kubuntu-initial-upload ? I really don't know I just added it quickly one time and only used it once
[17:32] <yofel> Riddell, sgclark: this should work a bit better http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~kubuntu-packagers/+junk/kubuntu-automation/revision/519
[17:33] <sgclark> yofel: ty
[17:33] <yofel> Riddell: ah ok
[18:14] <shadeslayer> sgclark: you need logger-colors
[18:14] <shadeslayer> sgclark: y u no bundler up
[18:14] <sgclark> bundler up?
[18:14] <shadeslayer> just cd into pangea-tooling, gem install bundler, bundler up
[18:15] <shadeslayer> auto installs all the thuings
[18:15] <shadeslayer> *things
[18:15] <shadeslayer> sgclark: and use rvm to manage ruby on your machine
[18:15] <sgclark> ahh okies, guess it is high time I sit down and learn ruby
[18:15] <sgclark> ty
[18:15] <shadeslayer> I have 3 ruby's installed
[18:15] <shadeslayer> from ubuntu, ruby 2.2.1 and ruby from git
[18:16] <sgclark> yeah I have rvm installed on desktop, still could not get things working
[18:16] <shadeslayer> sgclark: rvm help install ?
[18:16] <sgclark> for whatever reason when the script fails I cannot install any gems etc it always fails with missing metadat $scriptname
[18:17] <sgclark> metadata*
[18:18] <sgclark> I don't understand why it keeps going to the failed script to install gems
[18:18] <shadeslayer> got a log for me?
[18:18] <sgclark> or using it in some way. it is nowhere in the command
[18:18] <sgclark> shadeslayer: hmm does ruby log somehwhere?
[18:19] <shadeslayer> sgclark: just give me stdout
[18:20] <sgclark> shadeslayer: paste.ubuntu.com/10793430
[18:23] <shadeslayer> why are you trying to run agem
[18:23] <shadeslayer> wait what
[18:23] <shadeslayer> that looks weird
[18:23] <shadeslayer> sgclark: oh and : export GEM_HOME=$(ruby -e 'print Gem.user_dir')
[18:24] <sgclark> shadeslayer: that is the script sitter gave me for merging ci
[18:24] <shadeslayer> where is it
[18:25] <sgclark> shadeslayer: let me email it to you, it was a paste I have no longer the link
[18:25] <shadeslayer> ok
[18:26] <yofel> why... do we need a seperate script for that o.O?
[18:27] <sgclark> perhaps we don't , we'll see how my initial upload went
[18:27] <sgclark> or goes
[18:27] <sgclark> when I find ecm that is
[18:28] <sgclark> shadeslayer: and for what its worth I can no longer install any gems on either computer now
[18:29] <sgclark> oh patch.. right
[18:29] <Riddell> sgclark: ecm changed version numbers so now it matches frameworks
[18:29] <Riddell> maybe something needs to be removed for that
[18:30] <sgclark> ahh
[18:30] <shadeslayer> sgclark: 0.o
[18:30] <shadeslayer> 0.o
[18:35] <sgclark> Riddell: some clarity please, dfaure says to patch plasma-nm but that is not a framework. What am I patching here?
[18:37] <Riddell> sgclark: patch plasma-nm if modemmanager-qt 5.9 is used with it
[18:37] <Riddell> modemmanager-qt changed for frameworks so plasma-nm has to be changed with it
[18:44] <ahoneybun> Riddell: you said that USB creator is not working?
[18:44] <Riddell> ahoneybun: usually not no :(
[18:45] <ahoneybun> Riddell: what about using k3b?
[18:45] * Riddell half hopes prth can fix it as part of the gsoc project
[18:45] <Riddell> ahoneybun: that works fine for cd/dvds I think
[18:45] <ahoneybun> and dd for usb?
[18:45] <Riddell> yeah
[18:45] <Riddell> which is rubbish as a user experience
[18:45] <ahoneybun> was going to start writing docs for creating installation media
[18:45] <Riddell> there's some other UIs but they're not great
[18:45] <Riddell> yay :)
[18:46] <Riddell> windows maybe has something
[18:46] * prth would love to :)
[18:46] <Riddell> valorie pointed to a linux one that maybe works
[18:46] <ahoneybun> going to write it from scratch mostly
[18:46] <ahoneybun> might take a bit from the ubuntu wiki
[18:47] <ahoneybun> Riddell: I could not log into the akademy talk thing
[18:48] <Riddell> ahoneybun: what are you trying to do?
[18:49] <Riddell> hi leyyin_
[18:49] <leyyin_> hi
[18:49] <ahoneybun> Riddell: was trying to log in to maybe registar a talk
[18:49] <ahoneybun> was using the same KDE Idenity as userbase
[18:50] <Riddell> kde identity should work, but talks closed a couple of weeks ago
[18:50] <Riddell> ask d_ed if you want to submit one now
[18:51] <ahoneybun> Riddell: you said that they needed more
[18:52] <Riddell> ahoneybun: I don't know if they do now but they might
[18:55] <ahoneybun> ok
[18:59] <Peace-> :)) hi
[19:00] <ahoneybun> hey Peace-
[19:00] <Peace-> ahoneybun: Hey
[19:04] <soee_> hiho lazy Peace- :D
[19:13] <ahoneybun> Riddell: https://userbase.kde.org/Kubuntu/Installation
[19:18] <Peace-> soee_: :D splitted the plasmoid in 4 :D
[19:37] <Peace-> soee_: updated http://kde-apps.org/CONTENT/content-pre2/169633-2.jpeg
[19:38] <soee_> $-.-$
[19:39] <soee_> Riddell: so the patch is merged into sddm master, whats now ? :D
[19:40] <Riddell> now I upload it to ubuntu vivid
[19:41] <soee_> +!
[19:41] <soee_> +1
[19:41] <Riddell> soee_: watch it compile away https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/sddm/0.11.0-0ubuntu10
[19:51] <llucas__> hi everyone, some time ago Jonathan Riddell asked me about making a promo video of Kubuntu 15.04, so my question is what would you like to see here?
[19:54] <soee_> Riddell: ^
[19:55] <soee_> llucas__: i think present system in current verion
[19:55] <soee_> brb, Riddell testing sddm after this patches
[19:58] <llucas__> soee_ well but the time of the video is rather limited, so I would like to know more details first ;)
[19:59] <ahoneybun> llucas__: I would like to see dolphin being used (as it is awesome)
[19:59] <soee> i think there shoudl be 2 versions, one not longer thn 2 min, and one ~ 5-10 min
[20:00] <soee> so teh shortes wuld be liek promo video, second showing features more detailed
[20:01] <ahoneybun> soee: llucas__a prime example would be that features video for Antergos
[20:02] <soee> promo video with boring begining https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NQ7kqwbqeiI
[20:02] <soee> but from ~ 20 seconds it is fine
[20:03] <llucas__> Unfortunately my time is also limited, and i am afraid that we must focus on one video
[20:04] <soee> brb going to break my system problably, after nvidia drivers has been installed
[20:05] <llucas__> would you mind to post a link to this antegros video?
[20:05] <llucas__> ahoneybun?
[20:05] <Riddell> ooh llucas__
[20:05] <Riddell> hi
[20:05] <llucas__> hi
[20:06] <Riddell> thanks for coming by
[20:06] <llucas__> no problem
[20:06] <Riddell> really sorry I haven't got in touch more
[20:07] <llucas__> yeah I know that pain, to little time for everything ;)
[20:08] <Riddell> llucas__: 2 weeks until release
[20:08] <Riddell> llucas__: first major distro with plasma 5
[20:08] <Riddell> so it's mostly a video about how great plasma 5 is that we want
[20:08] <Peace-> Riddell: mmm it s not a good release i have to say
[20:08] <Riddell> Peace-: oh wheesht, it's going to be awesome
[20:08] <Peace-> Riddell: crash a lots
[20:08] <llucas__> Riddell so what features of kubuntu I should promote?
[20:09] <llucas__> guys please be more specific ;)
[20:09] <Riddell> llucas__: let's pick some highlights from https://www.kde.org/announcements/plasma5.0/ https://www.kde.org/announcements/plasma-5.1/ https://www.kde.org/announcements/plasma-5.2.0.php
[20:10] <Riddell> and https://www.kde.org/announcements/announce-applications-14.12.3.php
[20:11] <Riddell> llucas__: so a) technical bits rewritten with qt 5, frameworks 5 and QML (don't dwell on that but it's nice to set the scene for those who know)
[20:11] <Peace-> for me , like always stability it s the first thing
[20:11] <Peace-> and yeah plasma 5 it s nice but not stable
[20:12] <tuv0k> I wonder if well see the addition of most of the plasma widgets from the 4x series. The weather wallpaper desktop, system monitor widgets. They all seem to be missing now. But I'd play up the new design, and stability, when stabilty arrives.
[20:12] <Peace-> users are going to be mad like before
[20:12] <llucas__> Yes I can do it, but there will not be much time for corrections, and if there will be something you do not like, time may be pressing
[20:12] <Riddell> llucas__: b) shiny new artwork, breeze widget and icon theme
[20:12] <llucas__> ok
[20:13] <Peace-> Riddell: and in task manager you can-t understand a thing because it-s all grey
[20:13] <Peace-> ...
[20:13] <Riddell> llucas__: c) muon discover your app centre
[20:13] <Peace-> when you minimize icons on dolphin the icons became monocrome
[20:14] <Peace-> and it-s a no sense
[20:14] <llucas__> ahh muon discover this is not good example
[20:14] <Riddell> llucas__: slick integration of systray panels
[20:15] <Riddell> llucas__: kdeconnect by default makes your phone work with your desktop
[20:17] <Riddell> llucas__: krunner, alt-space to search for files, play/pause music, do calculator..
[20:19] <llucas__> something else?
[20:22] <Riddell> llucas__: applications all up to date, krita bling to draw pretty stuff, kdenlive for videos, nifty plasma widgets
[20:24] <llucas__> ok I think that will be enough for 2 minutes ;)
[20:25] <llucas__> btw what iso should i download (daily or beta 2)?
[20:26] <ahoneybun> llucas__: Beta 2 is darn solid
[20:26] <llucas__> ok so I will download beta 2 then
[20:28] <llucas__> as I understand it is possible to install nvidia drivers (needed for screen recording)?
[20:28] <ahoneybun> llucas__: its possible
[20:28] <ahoneybun> I just have not
[20:29] <ahoneybun> has I have need for nvidia prime
[20:30] <Riddell> ahoneybun: I just uploaded a probably fix for nvidia prime https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/sddm/0.11.0-0ubuntu10
[20:31] <llucas__> thanks everyone i will try to show something asap
[20:35] <llucas__> see you later ;)
[20:37] <Riddell> ahoneybun: nice start on https://userbase.kde.org/Kubuntu/Installation but also needs instructions for if using windows or mac or another distro
[20:37] <Riddell> http://www.ubuntu.com/download/desktop/create-a-usb-stick-on-windows might help but needs checking the instructions are sane
[20:38] <Riddell> valorie: what's the make a usb app you use?
[20:38] <Peace-> it's not at pendrivelinux.com
[20:38] <Peace-> ?
[20:40] <Riddell> Peace-: that just points to usb-creator which doesn't work very well
[20:40] <Riddell> https://en.opensuse.org/SDB:Create_a_Live_USB_stick_using_Windows might have other ideas
[20:40] <Riddell> but really all distros are crap at this
[20:40] <Riddell> which is weird
[20:50] <mparillo> For making a USB on Windows, I use unetbootin.
[20:54] <darthanubis> have to, can't do it on *buntus anymore
[20:55] <darthanubis> also my montiors no longer sleep
[20:56] <ahoneybun> Riddell: thanks about both nvidia prime and the docs
[20:56] <soee> Riddell: propriety drivers makes booting ends with black screen
[20:56] <ahoneybun> it is just a starting point
[20:56] <soee> also dunnow why .Xauthorite get root rights and i couldnt login
[20:57] <soee> *.Xauthority
[21:02] <darthanubis> still can't logout
[21:03] <darthanubis> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/sddm/+bug/1407152
[21:13] <valorie> Riddell: last time, I used unetbootin
[21:13] <valorie> before that I found some script an Ubuntuforums fellow had creatted, that was a front end to DD
[21:13] <valorie> created
[21:14] <valorie> rather scary to use DD -- I'm not confident enough
[21:16] <Riddell> valorie: right, I not too happy to advise it either, one letter wrong and bang goes your hard disk
[21:16] <Riddell> ahoneybun: investigate unetbootin ?
[21:36] <xennex81> darthanubis: I have the same problem when Installed Kubuntu 15.04 via Dist-Upgrade
[21:39] <xennex81> Jonathan Riddell I see you have been dealing with the bug as well....
[21:40] <xennex81> i had this after dist-upgrade from 14.10, never had it in alpha 2
[21:40] <xennex81> I never knew how to kill sddm-helper
[21:40] <xennex81> at least that is helpful
[21:40] <xennex81> for the next time
[21:47] <sgclark> Riddell: that patch failed..
[21:49] <Riddell> sgclark: for plasma-nm?
[21:49] <sgclark> yep
[21:51] * Riddell tries
[21:53] <Riddell> sgclark: works ok here, some fuzz that needs a quilt refresh
[21:53] <Riddell> sgclark: what's the problem?
[21:54] <sgclark> what do you mean ? quilt refresh here just sayss no patches applied
[22:00] <Riddell> sgclark: what have you done to the package?
[22:01] <sgclark> I only added the patch and ran git-package build whatever ppa
[22:02] <sgclark> I guess I need to do a full debuild?
[22:02] <sgclark> sorry distracted
[22:03] <Riddell> oh there's fuzz so you will need to refresh
[22:03] <Riddell> apt-get source plasma-nm
[22:03] <Riddell> add patch into debian/patches
[22:03] <Riddell> add to debian/patches/series
[22:03] <Riddell> quilt push
[22:03] <Riddell> quilt refresh
[22:04] <Riddell> then take and put it into the git archive
[22:04] <Riddell> or work out how to use git-buildpackage to get a shell
[22:04] <Riddell> I don't think I've worked that one out, git-buildpackage still confuses me
[22:17] <sgclark> okies ty
[22:27] <ahoneybun> Riddell: getting there https://userbase.kde.org/Kubuntu/Installation
[22:34] <mparillo> ahoneybun: Looks awesome. I love screenshots, but especially for dd (https://userbase.kde.org/Kubuntu/Installation#USB.27s.2FFlash_Drives_2) some text I can cut and paste might be nice.
[22:37] <mparillo> This is not targeted at old unix folks, right? So the root versus sudo thing is not appropriate. I like the way you say that the password you enter is used for certain tasks (alas, connecting to my wireless with every boot).
[22:39] <ahoneybun> mparillo: for ubuntu based sudo would be included
[22:39] <ahoneybun> but for other distros or setups just doing su and then run the command would work
[22:40] <ahoneybun> most of the new user docs cover sudo so I think it is needed
[22:41] <ahoneybun> mparillo: https://userbase.kde.org/Kubuntu/Installation#USB.27s.2FFlash_Drives_2
[22:48] <Riddell> ahoneybun++
[22:55] <ahoneybun> :)
[23:12] <valorie> ahoneybun: I have a suggestion for the DD image -- use a real path instead of path/to/iso etc.
[23:13] <valorie> I get far too many people in #kubuntu using path/to/whatever instead of an actual path
[23:13] <valorie> but they instantly get it if I show a real path
[23:19] <valorie> I made a few minor edits
[23:19] <valorie> it looks great overall
[23:26] <ovidiu-florin> do we have any other social profiles? Excepl Facebook, Google+ Twitter and LinkedIn ?
[23:28] <sgclark> pft I can never get retry builds to work..
[23:29] <ovidiu-florin> check out the bottom of: http://kubwp.kubuntu.co.uk/community/
[23:40] <mparillo> ahoneybun: Thank you. I am still not brave enough for dd, but others might be with that example.
[23:42] <valorie> ovidiu-florin: I don't think we ever made a pump.io
[23:43] <valorie> and the preceeding thing is dead..... open source twitter or whatever that was
[23:43] <valorie> do you think we need reddit? HN?
[23:44] <valorie> that's a nice Community page
[23:46] <sgclark> diaspora?
[23:49] <valorie> ah, I forgot that
[23:49] <valorie> I set it up, but then it just sat
[23:49] <valorie> I think it was a solution looking for a problem
[23:56] <elky> valorie: statusnet/identica?
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[01:09] <cyber> Alguem ?
[01:11] <astroo-> eu sempre
[01:11] <cyber> Portuga ?
[01:12] <astroo-> sim
[01:12] <cyber> Qto tempo meu amigo portuga kk
[01:12] <astroo-> sim
[02:10] <karbureto> boa noite glera
[02:10] <karbureto> galera
[02:11] <astroo-> ola
[02:14] <karbureto> tem como agente baixar video e musica do youtube
[02:15] <karbureto> tem algum programa pra isso alguem conhece
[02:15] <karbureto> pra ubuntu
[02:17] <lieber> karbureto, o próprio navegador tem extensões que possibilitam o download
[02:18] <lieber> na real você acha até página na web que faça isso
[02:18] <lieber> procura no google: youtube to mp3 download
[02:23] <karbureto> na central tem
[02:27] <lieber> é tbm rola
[03:06] <cyber> ...
[03:07] <astroo-> sim...
[03:09] <astroo-> ciao pessoal
[03:10] <cyber> Bye brother
[03:11] <astroo-> ciao e ve o privado
[09:44] <Guest56664> Bom dia. ALguém saberia me ajudar para salvar opção de underscan via Nvidia no Ubuntu 14.04. Embora altere, em todo boot as configurações não são salvas e o problema do monitor retorna.
[09:44] <Guest56664> ?*
[11:51] <karbureto> bom dia galera
[11:58] <tulio> bom dia galera
[11:59] <Guest37072> alguém ai usa ou ja usou a FFTW para fortran?
[12:07] <karbureto> Será que alguem pode me ajuda abro um video na net com o ubuntu o video começa e para ????
[12:07] <mirqui> bom dia :)
[12:07] <amarelinho_EMO> Guest37072: nem sei se isso é de comer ou de passar no cabelo :P
[12:08] <amarelinho_EMO> karbureto: uma vez tive um problema destes e era flash
[12:08] <Joab> Bom Dia galera
[12:08] <amarelinho_EMO> reinstalei e resolveu meu problema
[12:08] <Joab> Ja trago um problema aqui
[12:08] <mirqui> fala :)
[12:08] <Joab> esta saindo som no meu fone mas quando desconecto o fone nao sai nos alto falantes
[12:09] <mirqui> da uma olhada atraz no pc
[12:09] <mirqui> vê se está plugado o autofalante
[12:09] <Joab> e no meu not book
[12:10] <mirqui> opa
[12:10] <Joab> rsrsrs
[12:10] <mirqui> então vê o controle de volume
[12:10] <mirqui> e vê em configurações
[12:10] <Guest37072> alguém ai usa ou ja usou a FFTW para fortran?
[12:11] <mirqui> em algum lugar deve ser , ou seu autofalante do note pode estar queimado
[12:11] <mirqui> fortran ainda existe esta linguagem ?
[12:12] <Joab> eu tenho duall boot
[12:12] <Joab> no windows esta de boa
[12:12] <Joab> esta saindo som nos alto falantes de boa
[12:12] <Joab> agora no ubuntu
[12:12] <Joab> ta assim
[12:12] <Joab> eu tenho instalado aqui o cadence
[12:13] <mirqui> tenta instalar o vlc
[12:13] <mirqui> e vê no que dá
[12:13] <karbureto> Será que ninguem pode me ajuda com a minha duvida
[12:13] <mirqui> fala karbureto?
[12:14] <AsFelix> karbureto: o Joab já deu uma sugestão sobre seu problema
[12:14] <karbureto> por exemplo abro um video do face ele começa e logo em seguida para
[12:15] <mirqui> o flash está atualizado?
[12:15] <AsFelix> karbureto: acho que isso é problema com vídeos no facebook, pois em qualquer computador, com qualquer SO, em qualquer rede tenho esses problemas com vídeos do facebook
[12:15] <karbureto> então eu so uso o ubuntu no Pc
[12:16] <mirqui> mas o problema pode ser o face
[12:16] <mirqui> e não o ubuntu ou flash
[12:16] <mirqui> tenta abrir um vídeo no youtube
[12:17] <mirqui> e vê o que dá
[12:19] <karbureto> no youtube ta rodando normal
[12:19] <mirqui> então , pode ser algo momentâneo no face
[12:20] <karbureto> o ubuntu ta pedindo atualização so que ta falando que eu não tenho espaço suficiente
[12:20] <karbureto> o que fazer
[12:20] <mirqui> xiii, ai não sei te dizer , sou bnovo no ubuntu
[12:20] <AsFelix> karbureto: arrume espaço no disco apagando coisas que sejam dispensáveis
[12:20] <mirqui> mas tenta dimencionar as partições
[12:21] <mirqui> mas não sei como fazer
[12:21] <mirqui> tenta sudo apt-get autoremove
[12:21] <mirqui> ele libera um bocado de espaço no disco
[12:22] <mirqui> de trannqueiras que não se usa mais
[12:35] <karbureto> sim eu fiz
[12:36] <mirqui> liberou espaço?
[12:40] <karbureto> muito ppuco
[12:40] <mirqui> tem tbm o bleashbit na central de programas
[12:41] <mirqui> libera um certo espaço tbm , dá uma olhada
[12:44] <liberie> remove o cache do apt no var
[12:44] <liberie> deve ter bastante .deb por la
[14:23] <gioferrer> Bom dia pessoal
[14:23] <gioferrer> Bom companheiro. baixei o programa google-webdesigner e na instalação dois cliques padrão no pacote, fui redirecionado para central de programas do UBUNTU. Tudo certo. mas assim que instalei o referido programa, apareceram muitos problemas na minha máquina. como lentidão, travamento e outros. Quero desinstalá-lo, contudo, não existe essa opção na central de programas e tbm não consigo desinstalá-lo via terminal, diz
[14:24] <gioferrer> alguém sabe a respeito?
[14:26] <gioferrer> galera - google-webdesigner - cuidado com esse programa
[14:26] <gioferrer> ele não me dá a possibilidade de desinstalar
[14:28] <gioferrer> alguém?
[14:31] <gioferrer> ???
[14:32] <gioferrer> Bom galera. baixei o programa google-webdesigner e na instalação dois cliques padrão no pacote, fui redirecionado para central de programas do UBUNTU. Tudo certo. mas assim que instalei o referido programa, apareceram muitos problemas na minha máquina. como lentidão, travamento e outros. Quero desinstalá-lo, contudo, não existe essa opção na central de programas e tbm não consigo desinstalá-lo via terminal, diz que n
[14:33] <gioferrer> alguém sabe algo a respeito, de como desinstalar?
[14:47] <gioferrer> ninguém responde
[14:48] <Elfon> gioferrer: osudo apt-get remove Nome_do_Pacote
[14:48] <Elfon> gioferrer: sudo apt-get remove Nome_do_Pacote
[14:50] <gioferrer> não funciona, ja tentei
[14:50] <gioferrer> tentei inclusive como ROOT
[14:51] <Elfon> qual a mensagem?
[14:52] <gioferrer> espere
[14:52] <AsFelix> qual a extensão do pacote de instalação que você baixou?
[14:52] <gioferrer> acho que esta funcionando
[14:52] <gioferrer> .deb
[14:53] <gioferrer> .deb 64 bits
[14:54] <gioferrer> Elfon, valeu
[14:54] <gioferrer> eu estava errando na sintaxe
[14:54] <gioferrer> estava errado sudo apt-get remove google_webdesigner
[14:55] <gioferrer> é sem o Underline, assim: sudo apt-get remove google-webdesigner
[14:58] <Elfon> gioferrer: é só vc escrever as primeiras letras do nome do pacote e apertar TAB
[14:58] <Elfon> ele completa pra vc :)
[14:58] <Elfon> tipow... apt-get remove googl + TAB
[14:58] <Elfon> ou ele mostra uma lista
[14:58] <gioferrer> legal essa dica
[14:59] <Elfon> evita escrever o nome errado
[14:59] <gioferrer> eu tinha lido algo a respeito, estudado na verdade, mas viciei instalar só da central
[14:59] <gioferrer> verdade
[14:59] <AsFelix> então para desinstalar vc faz um: "sudo dpkg -r nome-do-pacote.deb"
[15:00] <gioferrer> bom, desse jeito é novo pra mim
[15:01] <gioferrer> deixa eu fazer umas tentativas
[15:01] <gioferrer> muito bom esse chat
[15:01] <gioferrer> valeu galera
[15:01] <gioferrer> volto em 40 minutos
[15:02] <gioferrer> mas deixo aqui minhas impressões do programa
[15:02] <gioferrer> que desinstalei
[15:02] <gioferrer> dando o feedback a respeito do que eu pude fazer antes de todos os problemas que tive com esse programa. Bom ele promete assustar alguns gigantes, no entanto, essa fase beta está muito instável e fica difícil para teste.
[15:03] <gioferrer> a interface é intuitíva, entretanto, o zoom é uma bosta
[15:04] <gioferrer> mas na parte das div's, nossa me surpreendeu
[15:04] <gioferrer> escrever as linhas de código é uma mão na roda para quem quer programar um site do ero
[15:04] <gioferrer> zero
[15:04] <gioferrer> t+
[15:54] <karbureto> boa tarde
[16:03] <karbureto> eu uso o ubuntu e não consigo ver o os videos do meu face inteiros
[16:03] <karbureto> alguem pode me ajudar
[16:04] <amarelinho_EMO> karbureto: que paia vei
[16:04] <karbureto> como assim ???
[16:04] <karbureto> não entendi]
[16:05] <amarelinho_EMO> que ruim
[16:08] <karbureto> não sei o que pode ser
[16:09] <karbureto> porque no meu celular roda normal
[16:12] <gioferrer> espere, ja te falo
[16:12] <gioferrer> eu tive o mesmo problema
[16:12] <gioferrer> ja te falo
[16:13] <Renato> Boa tarde
[16:16] <Rudolf> tarde
[16:21] <amarelinho_EMO> Tarrrde cumpadre
[16:22] <gioferrer> então meu jovem, vc ja instalou os pacotes de codecs
[16:22] <gioferrer> ?
[16:23] <gioferrer> karbureto?...
[16:24] <gioferrer> eu resolvi o meu problema de vídeos da seguinte forma
[16:24] <gioferrer> como eu ja havia instalado, reinstalar por cima não resolvia então via terminal eu fiz assim
[16:26] <gioferrer> sudo apt-get remove ubuntu-restricted-extras
[16:27] <gioferrer> sudo apt-get auto-cleam
[16:27] <gioferrer> e depois reinstalar de novo
[16:28] <gioferrer> mas dessa vez eu usei a central de programas do ubuntu
[16:28] <gioferrer> ubuntu-restricted-extras
[16:28] <gioferrer> pra mim funcionou
[16:29] <gioferrer> se alguém tiver uma idéia melhor
[16:29] <gioferrer> posta aí
[16:37] <cesarlimabr> Olá pessoal, estou tentando instalar o ubuntu 14.10 no virtual box mas surge um problema no gráfico e fica quadriculado, alguem já passou por este experiencia?
[16:55] <karbureto> vou fazer isso agora vamos ver no que da
[16:58] <karbureto> eu não consigo instala da erro
[16:58] <karbureto> ubuntu-restricted-extras
[17:14] <Elfon> Pessoal, qual o comando pra verificar se o servidor samba tá rodando?
[17:18] <amarelinho_EMO> ps aux | grep smb
[17:19] <amarelinho_EMO> nmap localhost
[17:20] <amarelinho_EMO> de um windows \\ipservidorsamba
[17:20] <Elfon> amarelinho_EMO: caraca...o firewall tá desabilitado e não acha nem a past do meu pc
[17:20] <amarelinho_EMO> Elfon: instalar o samba é uma coisa, compartilhar uma pasta é outra
[17:21] <Elfon> amarelinho_EMO: o kd efaz isso automaticamente :)
[17:21] <Elfon> kde*
[17:21] <amarelinho_EMO> S
[17:21] <amarelinho_EMO> Não uso kde a tanto tempo
[17:21] <amarelinho_EMO> nu, muito mesmo
[17:23] <Elfon> então...ele não acha
[17:23] <Elfon> só colocando o ip
[17:23] <Elfon> aí vai
[17:23] <Elfon> mas rastrear rede não
[17:26] <Elfon> amarelinho_EMO: outra coisa...já instalou o emissor de NFe ?
[17:36] <amarelinho_EMO> Elfon: não
[17:36] <amarelinho_EMO> Isso é de comer ou de passar no cabelo?
[17:37] <Elfon> hahaha
[17:37] <Elfon> o emissor de nf da sefaz sp
[17:37] <Elfon> era pra não ter dor de cabeça...é em java
[17:37] <Elfon> mas não funfa :(
[17:40] <cyberworld> wat?
[17:40] <cyberworld> tao falando de biscoito irlandes?
[17:43] <karbureto> ubuntu-restricted-extras
[19:30] <Guest3455> alguem ai usa ou já usou a biblioteca FFTW em fortran?
[21:01] <astroo-> ola pessoal
[22:00] <hernanpa> ok, muito obrigado por atender! Queria saber como faço para carregar o ubuntu para bootar de um pendrive
[22:02] <astroo-> esta no site oficial do ubuntu na parte dos downlaods a explicar
[22:03] <hernanpa> no ubuntu-br?
[22:05] <astroo-> http://www.ubuntu.com/download/desktop/install-ubuntu-desktop
[22:23] <EuMesmo> Boa Noite pessoal.
[22:23] <EuMesmo> acabei de instalar o debian
[22:23] <EuMesmo> naao sei nada dele ainda
[22:23] <EuMesmo> tava querendo acessar um irc deles aqui mas n consigo
[22:23] <EuMesmo> alguem pode me ajudar
[22:24] <astroo-> ola
[22:24] <astroo-> e ##debian-br
[22:24] <EuMesmo> pois e. eu entro no terminal mas n da
[22:24] <EuMesmo> uee
[22:25] <astroo-> usa https://kiwiirc.com/client
[22:27] <EuMesmo> queria saber como faco pra ver se a instalacao foi perfeita
[22:27] <EuMesmo> como instalar adobe flash
[22:27] <EuMesmo> rsrsrs
[22:27] <EuMesmo> eiiitaaa vida nova de linux e um misterio
[22:27] <EuMesmo> hehehehehehe
[22:27] <EuMesmo> ubuntu e mais facil
[22:27] <EuMesmo> rsrs
[22:28] <astroo-> usa 2 boot entretanto e tem os 2
[22:30] <EuMesmo> vou estudar mais linux
[22:30] <EuMesmo> o astroo te falar
[22:30] <EuMesmo> e mais seguro ne
[22:31] <amarelinho_EMO> Mexe com isso nao
[22:31] <amarelinho_EMO> eu uso windows aqui e morro de felicidade EuMesmo
[22:31] <amarelinho_EMO> :P
[22:31] <EuMesmo> hehehehehe
[22:31] <EuMesmo> eu tenho tique com windows
[22:31] <EuMesmo> nao me sinto bem!!
[22:31] <EuMesmo> fica parecendo que sempre estou sendo vigiado ou que sempre tem um virus tentando quebrar a seguranca do meu computador
[22:32] <EuMesmo> hehehehhe
[22:32] <EuMesmo> tipo isso!
[22:32] <EuMesmo> o povo fala que linux e seguro demais
[22:33] <astroo-> de longe mas e preciso saber configurar
[22:33] <EuMesmo> dependendo
[22:34] <EuMesmo> eu ate volto pro ubunto hoje mesmo
[22:34] <EuMesmo> hehehehehehe
[22:34] <EuMesmo> ja tive tanto trabalho pra instalar o debian.
[22:35] <astroo-> tem os 2 instalados que mal nao faz
[22:37] <amarelinho_EMO> EuMesmo: cara, tira o cabo de rede do pc e seu windows vai ficar bem
[22:37] <amarelinho_EMO> não tem erro EuMesmo
[22:37] <amarelinho_EMO> :P
[22:41] <EuMesmo> hehehehehehehe
[22:41] <EuMesmo> desse jeito
[22:41] <EuMesmo> to estudando pelo foca linux
[22:41] <EuMesmo> cara massa demais
[22:41] <EuMesmo> linux tem que expandir
[22:42] <astroo-> e esta infelizmente via android
[22:43] <EuMesmo> ouy
[22:44] <EuMesmo> saindo aqui galera
[22:44] <EuMesmo> estudar esse sistema aqui
[22:44] <EuMesmo> abraco!
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[04:55] <Kilos> hi nhaines and all others
[05:21] <nhaines> HI Kilos. :)
[05:22] <Kilos> :-)
[05:28] <Kilos> hi dpm
[05:39] <Kilos> hi dholbach
[05:46] <dholbach> hi Kilos :)
[05:46] <Kilos> :)
[05:47] <Kilos> hehe smiley day
[07:48] <czajkowski> aloha
[07:48] <Kilos> hi czajkowski
[07:53] <czajkowski> Kilos: hey there
[07:53] <czajkowski> hows things?
[07:54] <Kilos> good ty and you?
[08:00] <dpm> morning Kilos
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2015-04-10-#ubuntu-desktop
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[04:45] <pitti> Good morning
[05:20] <Mirv> Trevinho: oh sorry it was on this channel. anyhow, contact ted_g if he was the original lander to land the new superseding MP.
[05:44] <seb128> good morning desktopers
[05:55] <didrocks> good morning
[06:25] <seb128> hey didrocks, happy friday!
[06:28] <didrocks> re seb128! happy friday too
[06:31] <pitti> bonjour seb128 et didrocks, comment allez-vous ?
[06:31] <seb128> salut pitti, ça va bien ! et toi ?
[06:31] <seb128> pitti, joyeux vendredi
[06:32] <pitti> seb128: ça va, merci !
[06:32] <didrocks> pitti: ça va, comment était la glace hier soir ?
[06:32] <pitti> seb128: seulment un demi jour, je dois aller au hotel à Munich ce soir
[06:33] <pitti> didrocks: bien sûr c'était delicieux :)
[06:33] <pitti> didrocks: avez-vous eu de la glace aussi ?
[06:33] <didrocks> pitti: non, juste lundi dernier (dans Lyon, il y a un très bon glacier, mais il est loin)
[06:33] <seb128> pitti, il y a quoi à Munich ?
[06:34] <pitti> seb128: près l'airport
[06:34] <pitti> seb128: mon vol commence à 7:30h demainh
[06:34] <pitti> seb128: alors je dois être à l'airport ~ 5:30
[06:35] <pitti> c'est trop tôt à aller d'Augsburg
[06:35] <seb128> pitti, ah, c'est vrai, tu vas au Texas
[06:35] * pitti tips his hat and pulls the brim a bit lower
[06:36] <pitti> until then, having fun with usb-modeswitch
[06:36] <pitti> we have an ubuntu patch to rewrite the dispatcher in C, and that doesn't work/crashes with the systemd mode
[06:36] <didrocks> pitti: get ready for a vegetarian-friendly-poor week :)
[06:36] <pitti> didrocks: haha
[06:37] <pitti> "my vegetable has four legs and says 'mooo'" next week..
[06:37] <didrocks> ;)
[06:38] <pitti> didrocks: systemd's autopkgtest still fail in CI on the systemddm tests, drives me crazy; I wonder if it is related to lightdm crashing after all
[06:38] <pitti> I'll have a closer look next week
[06:38] <pitti> and until then just fudge the britney results
[06:40] <didrocks> pitti: ah ok, I'm running them right now to check with the workflow changes
[06:40] <didrocks> pitti: it doesn't fail anymore locally for you, right?
[06:40] <didrocks> (since you replaced the sleep with a wait-loop)
[06:40] <pitti> didrocks: I still saw it once out of 10 or so
[06:41] <pitti> didrocks: it has reset-failed, wait loop *and* an extra sleep 2 now
[06:41] <didrocks> ok
[06:41] <pitti> I don't think it's that, it actually might be lightdm that's crashing
[06:42] <didrocks> I want to ensure that I'm seeing the right thing
[06:42] <pitti> didrocks: I suppose we could try and change ExecStart=/bin/sleep 1000, and see if it stops crashing?
[06:42] <didrocks> pitti: yeah, that would be good enough
[06:42] <pitti> didrocks: anyway, not that urgent
[06:42] <pitti> didrocks: so please don't waste time on that right now, I'll have a look next week
[06:43] <didrocks> pitti: I'm just ensuring that the fsck fd connection changes don't impact autopkgtest
[06:43] <didrocks> and fixing them if necessary
[06:43] <didrocks> (so fsck tests)
[06:43] <pitti> I still have two or three bugs which I consider RC for vivid
[06:43] <pitti> didrocks: cheers
[07:10] <willcooke> morning
[07:10] <willcooke> Anyone else having Chromium crashes on startup?
[07:11] <didrocks> only using chrome, let me start chromium
[07:12] <seb128> hey willcooke
[07:12] <seb128> willcooke, works for me
[07:12] <didrocks> willcooke: nope, restore my tabs, tried 3 stop/start…
[07:12] <seb128> do you have a bt?
[07:12] <seb128> what version?
[07:12] <seb128> I feel like you tried to get a newer version somewhere to try to hidpi work? ;-)
[07:12] <seb128> the hidpi*
[07:12] <willcooke> Version 41.0.2272.76 Ubuntu 14.04 (64-bit)
[07:12] <willcooke> It doesnt happen all the time, and once it's running it's fine
[07:13] <willcooke> I'll launch via gdb next time I boot and see what happens
[07:13] <willcooke> oops
[07:13] <willcooke> just crashed again
[07:14] <willcooke> now I can launch my browser to look up how to use gdb :)
[07:14] <willcooke> *cant
[07:15] <seb128> oh, you are on the lts?
[07:15] <willcooke> yeah
[07:15] <seb128> you should have said so
[07:15] <seb128> didrocks and I are on vivid
[07:15] <seb128> gdb is easy
[07:15] <seb128> gdb binary
[07:15] <seb128> (gdb) run
[07:15] <seb128> get the segfault
[07:15] <willcooke> run
[07:15] <seb128> (gdb) bt
[07:16] <seb128> to get the backtrace
[07:16] <willcooke> thx
[07:16] <didrocks> "gdb is easy" -> I know even a lot of "expert devs" who would disagree with this :p
[07:16] <willcooke> "/usr/bin/chromium-browser": not in executable format: File format not recognised
[07:16] <didrocks> well, maybe a "thread apply all" before the bt
[07:16] <didrocks> as chromium is heavily multi-threaded
[07:16] <didrocks> ah, chromium-browser is a wrapper
[07:17] <didrocks> (bash script)
[07:17] <seb128> right
[07:17] <seb128> apport didn't collect a .crash for those segfaults?
[07:17] <willcooke> well, that's another thing...
[07:17] <willcooke> apport moans about some nvidia thing I haven't got installed
[07:17] <willcooke> I dont have any nvidia hardware
[07:18] <willcooke> apt-get upgrade is running at the moment, so I can't blame it I suppose
[07:18] <willcooke> needs to reboot...
[07:18] <didrocks> dpkg -l | grep nvidia?
[07:19] <willcooke> quite a lot of things
[07:19] <willcooke> hrm
[07:19] <willcooke> why would I have installed them
[07:19] <willcooke> I dont think I would have
[07:19] <willcooke> must be some strange dep
[07:20] <seb128> try to remove them and see what goes away with it?
[07:24] <willcooke> removed that nvidia stuff - nothing broke
[07:24] <willcooke> let's see what happens
[07:52] <seb128> tkamppeter, hey, well done figuring that cups-filter issue out ;-)
[07:56] <didrocks> pitti: all autopkgtests pass successfully with this new systemd-fsckd "out of trunk + new connection flow" version \o/
[07:56] <pitti> didrocks: cool, without mods? nice!
[07:56] <didrocks> pitti: yep ;)
[07:57] <didrocks> pitti: do you think you will upload it soon? I would prefer we don't upload such big changes 7 days before release…
[07:57] <didrocks> (maybe stick it in proposed?)
[07:57] <pitti> didrocks: I'd like to fix the broken autopkgtest as well, otherwise it'll get stuck again
[07:58] <didrocks> pitti: ok, the lightdm thingy… for the purpose of the test, we can change that to the sleep method (and changing the unit on disk as well)
[07:58] <didrocks> pitti: want me to do that?
[07:59] <didrocks> the change is to change ExecStart + stripping BusName=
[07:59] <pitti> didrocks: what I did was to run that single test with --shell, then ssh in and run the test in a loop; I usually get the failure after 10 runs
[08:00] <pitti> didrocks: I also changed all the other tests except teh failing to to "def xtest_" to disable them, for faster iteration
[08:00] <pitti> if the sleep helps and avoids any kind of lightdm crash which might occur, that'd be awesome
[08:01] <didrocks> pitti: well, we are not testing lightdm in this particular autopkgtests, so the sleep makes more sense, indeed
[08:02] <pitti> right
[08:03] <Laney> hey hey
[08:03] <seb128> hey Laney, happy friday!
[08:03] <seb128> wie gehts?§
[08:04] <didrocks> pitti: test_multiple_systemd() is the failing one for you, right?
[08:04] <didrocks> hey Laney
[08:05] <pitti> didrocks: test_multiple_systemd_ddmconfig_match and test_multiple_systemd_ddmconfig_match_no_symlink
[08:05] <didrocks> ok
[08:05] <Laney> seb128: planning a bbq for tonight, so good ;-)
[08:05] <Laney> you?
[08:05] <Laney> hey didrocks
[08:05] <seb128> Laney, nice!
[08:16] * didrocks uses minicom to enter into the adt testbed as the test screws up with the ssh service
[08:25] <didrocks> pitti: after running 30 times each tests, no lightdm startup issue here…
[08:26] <didrocks> pitti: what I propose is to change to sleep 1000 anyway to fake lightdm, try the tests, ensure there is no regression and give you a patch against experimental
[08:34] <pitti> didrocks: sounds nice, then I can try that in jenkins
[08:43] <didrocks> pitti: this seems to work well (at least for my adt testbed): http://people.canonical.com/~didrocks/tmp/0001-display-managers-autopkgtest-try-to-avoid-some-exter.patch
[08:45] <pitti> didrocks: hah, nice!
[08:46] <pitti> didrocks: I think we could even drop the "needs-recommends" then, and save a few 100 MB of installing test deps
[08:46] <pitti> didrocks: trying here, I'll first double-check that I can still reproduce it and then check with your patch
[08:47] <didrocks> pitti: ah indeed, it was needed for the real lightdm binary, shouldn't be the case anymore
[08:56] <pitti> didrocks: hah, got the failure locally on the very first try
[08:57] <didrocks> pitti: with the patch? so it's not lightdm?
[08:57] <pitti> didrocks: no, without still (just cross-checking)
[08:57] <pitti> didrocks: re-testing with the patch now
[08:57] <pitti> wow, sooo much faster without "needs-recommends" :)
[08:57] <didrocks> ah, phew :)
[09:01] <seb128> Laney, do you think you could sponsor the patch from https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=781229 for me?
[09:01] <seb128> so we can sync from Debian and keep in sync
[09:05] <Laney> seb128: Yep, good idea
[09:06] <Laney> nice changelog :P
[09:08] <pitti> didrocks: cheers! runs fine here
[09:08] <didrocks> pitti: nice! :)
[09:09] * pitti goes for a quick run while builds and tests are running
[09:10] <seb128> Laney, thanks
[09:10] <Laney> seb128: do you care to file an unblock to get it into testing?
[09:10] <seb128> bah
[09:10] <seb128> what happened to the changelog?!
[09:10] <Laney> hehe
[09:10] <seb128> Laney, how do I do that?
[09:11] <Laney> reportbug release.debian.org
[09:11] <darkxst> hey seb128 Laney pitti didrocks
[09:11] <Laney> -> unblock -> "this is a common crash, blah de blah"
[09:11] <Laney> i'll make it severity serious
[09:11] <didrocks> evening darkxst
[09:12] <Laney> hi darkxst
[09:12] <didrocks> pitti: enjoy!
[09:12] <Laney> I don't understand why the font thumbnailer is getting involved in /usr/share/icons though
[09:12] <Laney> do you know?
[09:13] <darkxst> I'm getting reports of no outputs be set as primary, which gnome shell doesnt really like (can see it on my intel laptop also)
[09:13] <darkxst> are you guys seeing that? ie 'xrandr -q' and there is no primary output
[09:14] <Laney> afraid not
[09:15] <seb128> darkxst, hey
[09:16] <seb128> Laney, no, I don't, it tries to thumbnaild the .index
[09:16] <seb128> Laney, does reportbug requires a working local mailer?
[09:17] <seb128> I think last time I tried to use it a ragequited because I never managed to get the email sent
[09:17] <Laney> haha
[09:17] <didrocks> seb128: you can save in a file
[09:17] <didrocks> and copy/paste it in thunderbird
[09:17] <Laney> in .reportbugrc put a smtphost
[09:17] <seb128> didrocks, I can as well directly write to submit@ in tb
[09:17] <seb128> which is how I usually file debian bugs :p
[09:17] <seb128> Laney, thanks
[09:17] <didrocks> seb128: yep, if you know the syntax for package: version:…
[09:18] <ochosi> Laney, seb128: just out of curiosity, did my patch help as expected with the gtk3 menu shadows?
[09:18] <seb128> didrocks, I usually look in my sent folder and edit an old email ;-)
[09:18] <Laney> .reportbugrc -> "smtphost reportbug.debian.org:587"
[09:18] <seb128> Laney, thanks
[09:18] <seb128> ochosi, I don't know, Laney & larsu were on it, I let it to them
[09:18] <Laney> save it before sending though incase I got that wrong ;-)
[09:19] <seb128> lol
[09:19] <seb128> Debian ways and tools are from the stone age :-/
[09:19] <Laney> ochosi: seems to, I tweaked it a bit and submitted a MP which is awaiting review
[09:19] <ochosi> ok good
[09:19] <didrocks> seb128: ahah!
[09:19] <seb128> larsu, ^ can you do the review?
[09:19] <didrocks> the old way ;)
[09:19] <Laney> nfi why reportbug doesn't just make this the default
[09:19] <seb128> didrocks, I'm too old for this s***
[09:19] <ochosi> Laney: feel free to get in touch if you need more help there
[09:19] <Laney> sure, thanks
[09:20] <larsu> seb128: sure
[09:20] <seb128> larsu, danke
[09:20] <davmor2> seb128: is Detective McClane in CodeHard5.0
[09:20] <willcooke> :)
[09:20] <seb128> davmor2, lol
[09:21] <Laney> seb128: laney@iota> file /usr/share/icons/Adwaita/icon-theme.cache ~
[09:21] <seb128> Laney, can't we just recycle the open bug as a request by subscribing some team (like we do in Ubuntu)?
[09:21] <didrocks> seb128: not a hippy like Laney, I see!
[09:21] <Laney> /usr/share/icons/Adwaita/icon-theme.cache: TrueType font data
[09:21] <Laney> .......
[09:21] <larsu> done, but can't top-approve
[09:21] <seb128> Laney, that would be why ;-)
[09:22] <Laney> they keep the release discussions and the bug fixing separate
[09:22] <Laney> so no is the answer
[09:23] <seb128> k
[09:23] <davmor2> seb128: admittedly is was sadi more by Riggs and Murtaugh but lethal Coding just didn't sound right ;)
[09:23] <seb128> davmor2, no, that doesn't ;-)
[09:23] <seb128> Laney, do you want me to provide a changelog text btw?
[09:24] <seb128> Laney, it fixes lp: #1436736
[09:24] <Laney> no it's okay ;-)
[09:26] <seb128> Laney, can you provide me the debdiff for my release unblock request? ;-)
[09:26] <seb128> I guess it's better if that has the actual changelog :p
[09:32] <Laney> just test building it
[09:32] <seb128> Laney, k, no hurry
[09:34] <Sweet5hark> seb128: here we are: http://people.canonical.com/~bjoern/vivid/4.4.2/libreoffice_4.4.2-0ubuntu1_source.changes and http://people.canonical.com/~bjoern/vivid/4.4.2/libreoffice-l10n_4.4.2-0ubuntu1_source.changes ...
[09:35] <Laney> seb128: http://people.canonical.com/~laney/patch-dump/gnome-font-viewer_3.14.0-2.debdiff
[09:35] <Laney> going to upload this now, thanks!
[09:35] <seb128> Laney, danke
[09:35] <Laney> still no key yet?
[09:37] <Laney> done
[09:37] <seb128> Laney, key is fine, no vm or chroot to build a binary and Debian hates on source uploads
[09:37] <seb128> thanks
[09:38] <Laney> ah yes, one day soon
[09:38] <seb128> report sent to unlock it
[09:38] <Laney> go vote for the DPL who is most likely to make that happen ;-)
[09:38] <seb128> ;-)
[09:40] <seb128> Laney, debug bug #782310
[09:40] <seb128> debian bug #782310
[09:40] <Laney> nice
[09:40] <Laney> we'll see what they say
[09:41] <Laney> no big deal if they deny it, unlikely that package will need a new upload anyway
[09:41] <seb128> right
[09:41] <seb128> thanks for the reportbug magic btw ;-)
[09:44] <Laney> ah I just checked and it has a wizard thing if you have no ~/.reportbugrc
[09:44] <didrocks> going for a run, bbl!
[09:44] <Laney> if you answer the questions write it creates this smtphost line for you
[09:44] <seb128> didrocks, enjoy!
[09:44] <Laney> hf didrocks!
[09:44] <didrocks> thanks ;)
[09:44] <Laney> is the knee better btw?
[09:44] <seb128> Laney, ah, that's new I guess (for some value of new)
[09:44] <seb128> lunch time here
[09:44] <seb128> Sweet5hark, libreoffice sponsored, thanks!ù
[09:44] <Laney> early lunch?
[09:45] <Sweet5hark> seb128: merci beaucoup!
[09:45] <seb128> de rien ;-)
[09:45] <seb128> Laney, yeah, friday, going out for some errands and having lunch with friends
[09:46] <seb128> enjoy the sun a bit as well
[09:46] <seb128> bbiab
[09:46] <larsu> seb128: enjoy!
[09:46] <Laney> it's actually looking a bit grey here
[09:46] <larsu> you're in England, remember?
[09:46] <Laney> probably the pollution cloud of death
[09:46] <Laney> http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-32233922
[09:47] <larsu> haha
[09:47] <seb128> danke :-)
[09:47] <larsu> Laney: that stock picture...
[09:47] <Laney> haha
[09:47] <Laney> yeah ...
[09:48] <larsu> "too much text and science, throw in a guy coughing"
[09:49] <Laney> annoys me that none of the advice is "don't drive your car please"
[09:49] <Laney> instead "avoid exercise"
[09:49] * Laney goes to lie down in the road
[09:50] <larsu> yeah that's weird
[09:50] <larsu> probably a lot of people would respond to a friendly plea
[09:50] <larsu> "please leave your car at home unless really necessary"
[09:51] <Laney> paris banned half the cars when this happened recently
[09:51] <willcooke> . . o o ( That bleedin' Sarahan dust, coming over 'ere gettin' in our lungs )
[09:51] <larsu> Laney: *banned*?
[09:51] <larsu> don't the have one of those stickers to get into the inner city?
[09:51] <Laney> http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-26599010
[09:51] <larsu> Berlin has that, and it's working quite well
[09:51] <Laney> just for a couple of days
[09:51] <larsu> wow, good for them
[09:52] <larsu> lol: you license plate needed to be odd-numbered :)
[09:52] <larsu> why don't they base it on age of car and size of engine?
[09:52] <larsu> they probably know the rough distribution of those
[09:53] <ogra_> because it is easier to control perhaps ?
[09:53] <larsu> hm, harder to enforce I guess
[09:53] <ogra_> the german system definitely doesnt work
[09:53] <larsu> ogra_: :)
[09:53] <larsu> why noy?
[09:53] <larsu> *not
[09:53] * ogra_ has two cars, one with sticker, one without ... (teh one without is even cleaner, but i never bothered getting one for it )
[09:54] <ogra_> i most of the time use the car without and have been in many cities that require a green one
[09:54] <ogra_> do you think it has ever been checked ...
[09:54] <larsu> oh, you mean it's not enforced...
[09:54] <larsu> that's unfortunate...
[09:54] <ogra_> yeah
[09:54] <ogra_> nobody bothers
[09:54] <larsu> maybe people self-enforce well enough?
[09:55] <ogra_> indeed, this is germany :)
[09:55] * larsu would like to see pollution levels before/after the ban
[09:55] * Sweet5hark lives in a port city. If a container ship happens to start its engine, all discussion about car pollution is immediately irrelevant.
[09:55] <ogra_> i think i read a stydy a year ago or so where they said it didnt gain anything
[09:55] <ogra_> but that might have been from ADAC :)
[09:56] <ogra_> our system definitely looks more shiny :)
[09:56] <larsu> haha
[09:56] <ogra_> nicely colored stickers :)
[09:56] <larsu> they're thinking about adding a new, blue one apparently
[09:56] <ogra_> heh
[09:56] <larsu> Sweet5hark: they should get stickers for those as well ;)
[09:56] <ogra_> one more color to ignoire :)
[09:57] <larsu> :D
[09:58] <darkxst> Laney, ok, guess its a bug in mutter then
[09:59] <Laney> can try a shell session if you want
[09:59] <ogra_> damn ... my neighbor just started the mowing season
[09:59] <larsu> move to a city without lawns
[09:59] <ogra_> haha, i would love to move to any city that isnt kassel :)
[10:00] <ogra_> weather there are lawns or not :)
[10:00] <larsu> sounds reasonable :D
[10:00] <ogra_> but living here is free so i cant actually complain :/
[10:00] <larsu> living in kassel is free?
[10:01] <ogra_> my GF inherited a house and property when her mother died
[10:01] <Sweet5hark> larsu: they are usually required to start their dirty engines only once they are out of town and down the river. recently it happened one ship started its engine too early while being tow. They were almost scalped by the green party and the tree hugger band.
[10:01] <larsu> ogra_: I figured something like that ;)
[10:01] <ogra_> before she died she ordered (and paid) a giant solar heating system
[10:01] <darkxst> Laney, maybe only 3.16, but if you can try with 3.14 just to confirm that?
[10:01] <ogra_> so living here is almost free for me ...
[10:01] <larsu> neat
[10:01] <ogra_> but well ... its kassel ...
[10:02] <Sweet5hark> ogra_: kassel? that sounds almost as bad as bielefeld.
[10:02] <larsu> Sweet5hark: sounds good to me. Being close to a tree is good when pollution is high ;)
[10:02] <ogra_> bielefeld !
[10:02] <ogra_> definitely equal :)
[10:02] <Laney> darkxst: "connected primary" still
[10:03] <Laney> on desktop anyway, not going to close this session :)
[10:05] <darkxst> ok thanks, though Ive not seen it on my desktop, but that is not intel
[10:05] <Laney> I'm completely non intel
[10:05] <Laney> so if it's related to that then ...
[10:05] <Laney> no help here :P
[10:07] <darkxst> yeh, i'll purge my laptop and see with 3.14
[10:09] <Laney> #ubuntu-x probably more helpful
[10:10] <darkxst> Laney, I was really just wondering if it was being seen under unity
[10:10] <Laney> sure
[10:10] <darkxst> we have the funky new wayland gdm in 3.16, but it wasnt caused by that
[10:12] <darkxst> just test unity and I get a primary there
[10:20] <Laney> larsu: did you have any other theme branches to land?
[10:27] <larsu> Laney: I have a workaround for the sqiggly line problem
[10:27] <larsu> but I'd rather fix it in gtk
[10:27] <larsu> finding my way through css machinery is a bit hard...
[10:28] <Laney> ya
[10:28] <larsu> so maybe let's do the workaround for now?
[10:28] <larsu> how urgent is this?
[10:28] <Laney> has Company guided you?
[10:28] <larsu> no :/
[10:28] <Laney> just "2 weeks until release" urgent
[10:29] <larsu> ok
[10:29] <larsu> it's just a few lines, let's do it in the theme
[10:30] <Laney> well if you can get pointed in the right direction we can still do that
[10:30] <Laney> as you wish
[10:30] <Laney> can do another upload first half of next week either way
[10:31] * Laney slides gtk 3.14.12 in
[10:31] <larsu> I'm making the patch right now
[10:31] <Laney> seems like 3.14 has had loads of point releases
[10:40] <larsu> Laney: https://code.launchpad.net/~larsu/ubuntu-themes/literal-colors/+merge/255806
[10:42] <Laney> larsu: add a comment to gtk-main reminding people to update these values too if they change that?
[10:42] <Laney> also a bug link if there is one
[10:47] <larsu> Laney: done and done. Thanks
[10:47] <Laney> thanks!
[10:49] <larsu> cool. Going to lunch now
[10:49] <Laney> enjoy the sun
[10:49] <pitti> didrocks: yummy, fsck progress in qemu again \o/
[10:58] <Laney> theme building in silo 020
[11:01] <tkamppeter> seb128, I hope my change will solve it, I have no proof that this was the actual problem. It is simply something what was wrong in cups-browsed. Now one has to see whether the error tracker calms down.
[11:44] <seb128> tkamppeter, one of the reporters said it fixed the issue for him, on one of the bugs
[11:45] <ajnr> hi I am not able to login using Gnome but able to login in terminal
[11:45] <ajnr> how to solve the problem
[11:49] <seb128> Laney, are you looking at bug #1357791?
[11:49] <Laney> you and your all seeing eye
[11:50] <Laney> I think it's fixed in gtk 3.14.12
[11:50] <seb128> great
[11:50] <seb128> Laney, I think bug #1439026 is the same issue
[11:50] <seb128> (which was on my tracking list)
[11:52] <Laney> not sure
[11:52] <Laney> the fix is in focus_in_event_cb() which isn't in that trace
[11:53] <seb128> hum, right
[11:55] <seb128> Laney, yeah, they seem different, I asked mclasen about it, in case it's obvious to him and he fixes the other one ;-)
[11:56] <Laney> cunning :P
[12:00] <seb128> ;-)
[12:06] <Laney> oh, it worked!
[12:06] <desrt> bleh
[12:07] <Laney> hello blehsrt
[12:07] * desrt is sick :(
[12:07] <seb128> Laney, you think I'm new in that business or what? ;-)
[12:07] <seb128> hey desrt
[12:07] <seb128> desrt, oh, get better!
[12:07] <seb128> Laney, can you backport that fix as well? ;-)
[12:08] <desrt> i can't talk for a couple of days now, and now it hurts when i swallow :p
[12:08] <Laney> yus
[12:08] * Laney rejects the upload
[12:08] <Laney> desrt: ice cream
[12:08] <seb128> Laney, thanks
[12:12] <didrocks> desrt: get better man :/
[12:13] * desrt is probably going to go to the doctor today (finally)
[12:13] <didrocks> yeah, sounds like a plan
[13:07] <didrocks> pitti: I know you are away now, but when you reconnect: good news! systemd autopkgtests all green on both archs now \o/
[13:25] <didrocks> seb128: FYI, I just did the work for bug #1440549. However, I'm unsure doko got a FFe for this, and it can wait w anyway
[13:26] <didrocks> just pushed the branch for now
[13:27] <seb128> didrocks, oh, nice, yeah it can wait winner whale
[13:27] <seb128> thanks
[13:28] <didrocks> yw
[14:56] <GunnarHj> Laney: Still there?
[15:04] <GunnarHj> Laney: Asking my question:
[15:04] <GunnarHj> Laney: Was your latest comment on bug #1439006 your final decision?
[15:04] <GunnarHj> Laney: If the Japanese remix is more frequently used in Japan than standard Ubuntu, I feel it's kind of a more obtrusive change to not fix that bug compared to fixing it.
[15:07] <Laney> GunnarHj: Yes. I don't see how you can know that, and I'm not willing to risk making this change so late. We can do it on Wiggly Worm day 1 and actually have a chance to fix breakage. The remix can continue to modify any package however it wants for V.
[15:10] <GunnarHj> Laney: The changes due to making fcitx default for Chinese makes it harder to provide fcitx as default in other languages. I don't know if they have figured out a way to do it. But I'll stop arguing. There are always pros and cons. ;)
[15:15] <Laney> Thanks GunnarHj, sorry for being so conservative. :P
[15:16] <Laney> Saw your fonts-droid change - wonder what's happening there
[15:16] <GunnarHj> Laney: That change was to prevent that a previously fixed bug reappears.
[15:16] <GunnarHj> Laney: It's a hack. I intend to talk more with the Debian people.
[15:16] <Laney> Ya, I mean I wonder why they moved it
[15:17] <Laney> I had a look at the bug reports but it wasn't clear
[15:17] <GunnarHj> Laney: Complaints from some Japanese POV.
[15:18] <GunnarHj> Laney: We don't have the same Japanese problem in Ubuntu since we have conf files in the takao package which takes case of the conflict.
[15:18] <GunnarHj> s/case/care/
[15:19] <Laney> Man
[15:19] <Laney> These fontconfig files are hard to get right
[15:19] <GunnarHj> Laney: Right. I have realized that there will never be a default configuration which makes everyone happy.
[15:22] <larsu> Laney, didrocks: the patch I attached to gnome bug #747634 fixes gnome terminal's class setting (which we need for backwards compat for the wrapper)
[15:23] <larsu> Laney: not sure how much mclasen will like that, so maybe we should hold off putting it in the package?
[15:24] <Laney> larsu: I agree, let's see what kind of reviews you get
[15:24] <larsu> we do need something like this though
[15:24] <larsu> unless we get gnome-terminal to drop the separate -server thing
[15:25] <larsu> (good luck)
[15:25] <didrocks> larsu: \o/ nice work. Let's hope that you get good reviews :)
[15:25] <didrocks> we'll see
[15:29] <Laney> attente: https://www.castle-climbing.co.uk/node/182
[15:29] <Laney> this place sounds nuts
[15:29] <Laney> outdoor boulders
[15:30] <attente> Laney: oooh :o
[15:31] <larsu> attente: how are your fingers doing?
[15:31] * larsu went bouldering in berlin twice now
[15:31] <larsu> you guys up for going somewhere in London?
[15:31] <attente> pretty good up till yesterday
[15:31] <larsu> :(
[15:32] <Laney> you rest!
[15:32] <didrocks> climbing sounds so… dangerous :p
[15:32] <didrocks> maybe less than cycling in a city actually, but still
[15:33] <attente> and i'm afraid to cycle in the city
[15:34] <larsu> attente: in TO? I've found it to be reasonably good for a US city
[15:34] <larsu> *North American, oc
[15:34] <didrocks> *troll detected*
[15:35] <attente> lol
[15:35] <larsu> *honest mistake, but could relabel as a troll since it's Friday*
[15:35] <didrocks> :p
[15:35] <didrocks> "honest" yeah ;)
[15:36] <Laney> didrocks: come with us and see for yourself :)
[15:38] <larsu> it's fun!
[15:39] <didrocks> only if you come running for (let's be kind) 10 kms first!
[15:39] <larsu> sure.
[15:39] <Laney> i'll ride on a boris bike with you
[15:39] <larsu> haha
[15:40] <didrocks> ahah
[15:40] <didrocks> hyde park is an only 7kms run though
[15:41] * didrocks needs to find a path
[15:41] <didrocks> oh wait
[15:41] <didrocks> it will rain anyway, isn't it? :p
[15:41] <Laney> oho
[15:41] <Laney> there's another park next door i think
[15:41] <didrocks> buckingham palace garden
[15:41] <Laney> don't think you can get in that one :p
[15:42] <Laney> i bet it would be cool to run past the palace to parliament though
[15:42] <didrocks> :)
[15:43] <didrocks> the easy fallback is to do a second loop around the serpentine
[15:43] <didrocks> it's 3.3kms
[15:43] <didrocks> so, the whole run will fit
[15:51] <didrocks> enough for today anyway, see you next week guys! (leaving for board games tonight \o/)
[15:52] <didrocks> don't climb too much ;)
[16:20] * Sweet5hark mumbles: damnit rust looks like an interesting language. much more than Go.
[16:21] <jpds> Sweet5hark: Blasphemy.
[16:23] <Sweet5hark> jpds: how so? rust looks like a cleanly designed language with a well-defined target problem space. Go looks like yet-another-half-assed attempt to fix C++ in much the same way as SVN was "fixing" CVS ...
[16:23] * Sweet5hark wonders if its Friday yet ...
[17:00] <Laney> happy weekend!
[17:02] <seb128> Laney, thanks, to you too!
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2015-04-10-#xubuntu-devel
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[00:05] <knome> hullo bluesabre
[00:09] * bluesabre is sighted
[00:09] <knome> bad sight is sight too..
[00:10] <elfy> sight is just usually bad
[00:25] <knome> bluesabre, not too late for translations
[00:25] <knome> and please keep the devel discussion here :P
[00:26] <bluesabre> goodie
[00:26] <knome> wondering who's going to take care of that slideshow update still
[00:27] <knome> s/update/upload/
[00:27] <knome> we need one NOW and one on next week's thursday
[00:31] <bluesabre> hm, maybe not for greeter-settings translations, seems the translation template and all translation files are completely different
[00:32] <bluesabre> andrew_p has been busy x.x
[00:37] <Unit193> bluesabre: Hah, right, telling you where would help. ppa:unit193/xfce
[00:37] <bluesabre> thanks
[00:39] <bluesabre> 20:22 Unit193 * d/p/xubuntu_git_Make_verbose_logging_conditional.patch:
[00:39] <bluesabre> 20:22 Unit193 - Backport a commit to turn off verbose logging by default.
[00:54] <Unit193> bluesabre: So anything not for wombat to do?
[00:54] <bluesabre> Unit193: hoping to have a new catfish or menulibre when wombat opens up
[00:55] <bluesabre> and/or a gtk3-ready exo
[06:36] <ochosi> bluesabre: does that mean i can put your name down in the 4.14 roadmap for exo? :)
[06:37] <Unit193> Heh.
[08:33] <knome> ochosi, regarding the mailing list,
[08:34] <knome> ochosi, since we do not really want non-members to "vote" on the office/image editor discussion, what should i do with a non-member, moderation queue message:
[08:34] <knome> ochosi, 1) simply discard the message; it doesn't appear on the list and no notification is made
[08:35] <knome> ochosi, 2) reject the message with a note for the original poster telling why it is rejected
[08:35] <knome> ochosi, 3) sth else
[08:35] <ochosi> 1) sounds a bit harsh to my ears
[08:35] <ochosi> 2) would be acceptable
[08:36] <ochosi> for 3) i could imagine changing the subject, thus creating a new thread
[08:36] <knome> to me, 2) sounds like we're going to have an argument over the issue with the poster
[08:36] <knome> i recognise that email address being somebody who has posted irrelevant stuff before.
[08:37] <ochosi> right, i guess if you know the poster, it's a slightly different issue
[08:37] <knome> the mail is straightforward "vote", there is very little discussion
[08:37] <ochosi> right, then my 3) is not an option
[08:38] <ochosi> wasn't sure you were talking generally or about a specific message
[08:38] <ochosi> if it's about this specific message, i would simply reject it (aka 1))
[08:38] <knome> some one-liner arguments, but then again, it's supposed to be a team vote, and at this point there has been time to bring all arguments to the table (via the general, open for all thread before)
[08:38] <knome> both this and to act as a guideline for future
[08:38] <knome> i would lean to 1) too.
[08:39] <knome> there is a way they can get their mail on the archive if they insist; just subscribe the list...
[08:39] <Unit193> How about for all team votes and such, don't just set [TEAM] but explain what that means?
[08:39] <knome> Unit193, it is explained.
[08:39] <knome> clearly people, including you, don't read the mails
[08:39] <ochosi> i thought i did explain it quite clearly in my first email
[08:39] <ochosi> (for both votes)
[08:40] <ochosi> even in CAPS :)
[08:40] <knome> exactly, anybody who has actually read the original message but post their "vote" nonetheless (and are not a team member) are just plain ignorant
[08:40] <knome> or, and this is the more likely option, they didn't read it
[08:41] <Unit193> knome: Sure I do, but as that didn't work, does listing people help or no? Granted, you're always going to get some no matter what.
[08:41] <knome> ochosi, discarded
[08:41] <ochosi> anyway, as a more general rule, we could set up a template message that quickly explains why a message was moderated/discarded
[08:41] <knome> Unit193, i didn't..
[08:42] <knome> ochosi, these are very rare occasions really
[08:42] <Unit193> * Read this whole message, I don't always read all of them. More so if I think it came from another list. >_>
[08:42] <ochosi> something generic like "This is a team-only vote. Your message has been discarded. Create a new thread if you want to discuss something else."
[08:42] <knome> most of the time the accident has already happened
[08:42] <knome> this is an edge case where we were able to prevent the accident from happening
[08:42] <ochosi> yeah, guess that's true
[08:42] <knome> it's literally the first time
[08:42] <ochosi> :)
[08:43] <knome> Unit193, that just proves that no matter what we said, people are going to be ignorant
[08:43] <knome> and that there is no way to stop them from posting except an all-moderated list, which people were against before
[08:44] <knome> ochosi, should we set a vote for the next meeting about the strategy document?
[08:45] <knome> elfy, i postponed survey 2, because clearly we should wait until we've done the moves for 15.10
[08:47] <ochosi> knome: is that about the SD change where we remove the developer paragraph or something else?
[08:47] <knome> ochosi, no, this is about the seeds and composition part
[08:47] <ochosi> oh right, yeah got it
[08:47] <knome> the developer paragraph is gone
[08:47] <ochosi> sounds good to me
[08:48] <ochosi> yeah, i was distracted by other stuff there
[08:48] <knome> ok, good, i'll add it to the agenda
[08:48] <knome> no worries
[08:48] <knome> just going through the open work items..
[08:50] <ochosi> thanks knome
[08:50] <knome> np
[08:50] <knome> i'm procrastinating real work
[08:51] <ochosi> yeah, i should get back to that now
[08:51] <knome> specifically writing an offer :P
[08:51] <knome> back to procrastinating? sounds good.
[09:28] <brainwash> bluesabre: the last xfdesktop update for trusty (SRU) triggered an automatic crash report. any news on this? did all users get the update despite the report?
[09:30] <brainwash> bug 1415683
[09:31] <brainwash> should the fix be backported?
[09:31] <brainwash> + https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xfdesktop4/+bug/1335492/comments/58
[10:16] <elfy> knome: yup, ty
[10:30] <brainwash> could xubuntu opt out of "One Hundred Papercuts"? alberto tends to add it to the affects list of many bug reports, but there really seems to be no benefit
[10:35] <elfy> not sure if we can opt out - possibly someone could ask him to not do it
[10:44] <slickymasterWork> yeah, I'm also under the impression that's not a possibility
[10:45] <slickymasterWork> but he does seem to be all over the place
[10:45] <brainwash> the project idea is not bad, but adding all these "easy" to fix bugs does not seem to help much
[10:46] <brainwash> most of our bugs are not trivial or require packaging skills
[10:58] <elfy> can we not just untag them?
[11:04] <elfy> didn't we have this conversation with him a while back?
[11:07] <slickymasterWork> wasn't that ^^^ about is fixation with emoticons in m/l instead elfy?
[11:09] <elfy> no pretty sure we did something re our bugs
[11:10] <elfy> brainwash: do you remember that?
[12:24] <knome> i vaguely remember something like that
[12:24] <knome> wasn't it about the black background bug?
[12:51] <knome> ochosi, are there some bugs in the bugs blueprint that you aren't planning to fix?
[12:52] <knome> [xubuntu-qa] Create rolling base release note wiki: INPROGRESS
[12:52] <knome> elfy, can't that considered to be done?
[12:52] <knome> [xubuntu-qa] Exploratory testing information to testers via ML: INPROGRESS
[12:52] <knome> elfy, what's the status of that? since we only have a few days left, is it realistic that it's actually just postponed?
[12:52] <ochosi> knome: yes, there are, i guess i should go over them with bluesabre to decide what to unlink
[12:53] <knome> elfy, or do you consider it done?
[12:53] <knome> ochosi, fwiw, you can link them to the umbrella blueprint, and they won't show up at status.u.c
[12:53] <knome> ochosi, that way you can still keep a list of things that you want to move onto the next cycle
[12:53] <ochosi> yeah, i'll still discuss this with him first
[12:53] <knome> [xubuntu-qa] Review and correct testcase as required (re-check Xfce4.12): INPROGRESS
[12:53] <ochosi> but good to know
[12:53] <knome> elfy, that?
[12:54] <ochosi> bluesabre: maybe we can talk about the remaining open bugreports attached to our v-bugs blueprint sometime on the weekend and move those we won't fix somewhere else
[12:55] <knome> pleia2, if you want to print the first batch of flyers on a print shop, you can do that with the current files already... the thing i need to iron out is related to home printers without FB-modes
[12:55] <knome> ochosi, should probably unlink invalid ones
[12:56] <knome> looks like it's again around 10% that didn't get done
[12:57] <ochosi> some of those are upstream bugs that won't get easy fixes
[12:57] <ochosi> i'm actually quite happy with what we accomplished this cycle
[12:57] <knome> sure, i was referring to the whole lot of blueprints, not bugs only
[13:09] <elfy> knome: could possibly have been tghe black screen thing
[14:32] <mrkramps> a wekk or something ago, i reported keyboard media keys not being recognised on my system … well, i shoud not have diabled them, so … just forget about it
[14:34] <ochosi> :)
[14:34] <ochosi> it happens
[14:37] <mrkramps> xinput lists the media keys as seperated device in pointers AND keyboard and i incidentely disabled them in mouse and touchpad setting … just took me some days to find aut :S
[20:58] <slickymaster> okie doke brainwash, done
[21:42] <bluesabre> ochosi: here only briefly, but I will probably be around for a bit tomorrow
[21:43] <Unit193> Oki.
[21:43] <bluesabre> !info xfdesktop4 trusty
[21:43] <bluesabre> brainwash: yes, all sources seem to indicate that 4.11.8 is still rolled out to everyone in trusty, and yes, it would probably be good to get them a fix
[21:44] <Unit193> !info xfdesktop4 trusty-updates
[21:44] <Unit193> !info xfdesktop4 trusty-proposed
[21:44] <bluesabre> the bot seems to look at -updates
[21:44] <bluesabre> http://packages.ubuntu.com/trusty-updates/xfdesktop4
[21:44] <bluesabre> vs http://packages.ubuntu.com/trusty/xfdesktop4
[21:46] <brainwash> bluesabre: is it worth the effort? could be yet another package which gets stuck in -proposed for weeks/months
[21:46] <bluesabre> trusty is supported for quite a bit longer than that, so yeah
[21:46] <bluesabre> crashes are annoying
[21:47] <Unit193> Wait, anyone cares about trusty?
[21:47] <brainwash> I think it's a silent crash, or not visible due to the crash recovery mechanism of xfce4-session
[21:47] * bluesabre does
[21:48] * slickymaster also
[21:48] <Unit193> upstart*
[21:49] <brainwash> some trusty users may be annoyed by the icon reset regression, and there is a patch available upstream (or 4.12.1)
[21:50] <bluesabre> let's gauge how bad it is and determine what we want to backport
[21:50] <bluesabre> I gotta run now, bbabl
[21:50] <brainwash> it mainly affects people with many desktop icons and/or slow systems
[21:51] <brainwash> so, it's bad
[21:52] <brainwash> bluesabre: a good start would be to pick the patches and let affected users test it, then got for the SRU
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2015-04-10-#ubuntu-nl
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[04:30] <lotuspsychje> OerHeks: https://twitter.com/ubuntu
[04:30] <lotuspsychje> nice die nieuwe dell
[04:30] <OerHeks> Zekers, ik heb al lopen snuffelen, trage site van Dell trouwens
[04:31] <lotuspsychje> ik zit nog te twijfelen welke barebone laptop leverancier ga kiezen
[04:32] <lotuspsychje> BTO laptops lijkt me wel wat, wel eerder duur
[04:32] <OerHeks> Welke keuzes heb je dan?
[04:33] <lotuspsychje> en laptopplus.nl
[04:33] <OerHeks> Dat is het probleem, zonder windows zijn er haast geen leveranciers, en de prijs valt dan vies tegen
[04:33] <lotuspsychje> idd, ik vraag me af of de grote merken niet aan barebones zou doen zakelijk?
[04:33] <lotuspsychje> bvb moest ik Hp contacteren?
[04:33] <OerHeks> Dat zou ik doen ja
[04:34] <OerHeks> Maar dan verwachten ze een order van 100 stuks denk ik.
[04:34] <lotuspsychje> dat zou wel es probleem kunnen geven
[04:34] <lotuspsychje> ik wil wel goeie en snelle levering+ hersteldienst ook
[04:34] <lotuspsychje> jammer dat coolblue geen barebones doet
[04:35] <lotuspsychje> das nu echt een super bedrijf
[04:35] <lotuspsychje> vandaag bestellen, morgen aan huis geleverd en gratis
[04:37] <OerHeks> Jups, maar zoveel mensen zijn er niet, die een laptop zonder OS willen.
[04:38] <OerHeks> Ik dacht dat het wel storm zou lopen, maar als je je laptop wil verkopen, gaat dat sneller met een windows licentie
[04:38] * lotuspsychje gaat daar verandering in brengen :p
[04:38] <OerHeks> Ik denk ook, dat die windows gewoon gratis is.
[04:38] <OerHeks> ze pompen er zelf een image op, sticketje, hopla.
[04:38] <lotuspsychje> ja zeker met die uefi ding eringebakken
[04:39] <lotuspsychje> das die andere: http://www.bto.eu/
[04:39] <lotuspsychje> deze lijkt me professioneel, maar duur
[04:40] <OerHeks> ALs ik nu moet kiezen, zou ik niet meer voor lenovo gaan, maar HP idd.
[04:40] <lotuspsychje> ok, ik zal hen eens contacteren
[04:40] <lotuspsychje> wie weet doen ze lappies op maat ook
[04:41] <lotuspsychje> heb onlangs in fnac die nieuwe pc schermen gezien van hp, echt mooi
[04:41] <OerHeks> hmmm The #OpenStackRoadshow is coming to Frankfurt in two weeks.
[04:41] <OerHeks> wel ver fietsen ...
[04:42] <lotuspsychje> looool
[04:42] <OerHeks> Thursday, 23 April 2015 from 08:45 to 11:30
[04:42] <OerHeks> wel kort
[04:42] <lotuspsychje> er is toch wel veel ubuntu beweging he laatste tijd
[04:42] <OerHeks> Ja, nu de phone er is ..
[04:43] <OerHeks> ubuntu-core .. ik wil ook van die robot zooi
[04:43] <lotuspsychje> lol
[04:43] <lotuspsychje> internet of things voor onze deur
[04:43] <lotuspsychje> al die scifi films van vroeger komen nu werkelijkheid
[04:44] <lotuspsychje> en dan hier en daar een paar ubuntu neo's die het systeem doorzien :p
[04:45] <OerHeks> Ik ben al bezig met mijn visitekaartjes, ubuntu member, internet of things
[04:45] <OerHeks> zucht, ik ben daar niet zo goed in
[04:45] <lotuspsychje> voor ontwerp bedoel je?
[04:45] <OerHeks> jups
[04:45] <OerHeks> gewoon in LO
[04:45] <lotuspsychje> bij vistaprint kan je goedkoop logootjes maken
[04:46] <lotuspsychje> logo kan je gratis downloaden, de kaartjes wel betalen
[04:46] <OerHeks> logo is ubuntu natuurlijk
[04:47] <OerHeks> of toch deze erbij, ik heb hem ergens netjes uitgesneden > https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-34AR6vXPLI4/VMEFDb0rRpI/AAAAAAAAAdg/XulaNMtCsc0/w1043-h1043/OerHeks.jpg
[04:47] <lotuspsychje> :p
[04:47] <lotuspsychje> loool
[04:47] <lotuspsychje> doe jij tifany glas zelf?
[04:48] <OerHeks> Nee, ik heb er een paar van ..
[04:48] <OerHeks> leuk spul ja
[04:48] <lotuspsychje> kk
[04:49] <lotuspsychje> OerHeks: had je deze al gezien: http://www.ubuntushop.be/
[04:50] <OerHeks> ja
[04:50] <lotuspsychje> maar ik wil geen dualboot stuff
[04:50] <lotuspsychje> enkel ubuntu + ssd + trusty
[04:50] <lotuspsychje> knopje drukken en 5sec boot
[04:51] <OerHeks> ik had dropbox nog niet geinstalleerd > https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/6885560/OerHeks2008.bmp
[04:52] <lotuspsychje> heks logo :p
[04:53] <lotuspsychje> wat ik oon intressant vind is laptops met vast keyboard, dat er geen kruimels tussen toetsen kunnen vallen
[04:54] <lotuspsychje> maar vind je helaas niet veel
[04:54] <OerHeks> ow WACHT !!!!!!
[04:54] <OerHeks> die roadshow is in Amsterdam – Wednesday 22nd April
[04:54] <OerHeks> over 12 dagen ..
[04:55] <lotuspsychje> gaan met de fiets dan!
[04:55] <lotuspsychje> :p
[04:55] <OerHeks> Ja amsterdam is wel te fietsen, kom je dan ook ?
[04:55] <lotuspsychje> en straks krijg je toch een robo mee naar huis
[04:55] <OerHeks> http://www.eventbrite.co.uk/e/canonicals-2015-openstack-roadshow-amsterdam-registration-16182231490?utm_term=amsterdamroadshow&utm_medium=url_shortner&utm_source=ubunteu&utm_campaign=shortner
[04:55] <lotuspsychje> ik ben van belgie :p
[04:55] <OerHeks> ai
[04:55] <lotuspsychje> al wat verder
[04:56] <lotuspsychje> hmm eventbrite, heb daar een touch app voor denk ik
[04:56] <OerHeks> Ik heb zin om te gaan eigenlijk ...
[04:56] <lotuspsychje> straks ff installen :p
[04:56] <lotuspsychje> zal zeker de moeite zijn
[04:57] <lotuspsychje> heb met paar devs gepraat die naar WCO geweest zijn
[04:57] <lotuspsychje> ubuntu stand was magisch
[04:57] <lotuspsychje> massa volk
[04:58] <lotuspsychje> https://insights.ubuntu.com/2015/02/19/canonicals-2015-openstack-roadshow-launches/
[04:58] <lotuspsychje> download roadshow pack
[05:01] <OerHeks> klaar, aangemeld met [email protected] :-D
[05:01] <OerHeks> 1e serieus gebruik van me mail
[05:01] <lotuspsychje> nice!
[05:02] <lotuspsychje> laat zeker weten hoe het geweest is dan he
[05:02] <OerHeks> Ik weet er niet veel van, of dat ik er iets mee kan, maar ik vind het wel een leuk uitje
[05:02] <lotuspsychje> lijkt me eerder iets voor bedrijven
[05:02] <lotuspsychje> maar die snappy zal zeker interesting zijn
[05:02] <OerHeks> ik doe dat vaker, seminars bezoeken, hapje drankje, en een pennetje
[05:03] <lotuspsychje> ja heb dat vroeger ook gedaan, techdata shows
[05:03] <lotuspsychje> beurs voor zelfstandigen
[05:04] <OerHeks> Wie weet wie ik daar ontmoet, dat vind ik misschien wel belangrijker
[05:04] <lotuspsychje> ja zekers
[05:15] <lotuspsychje> OerHeks: http://www.kaaproject.org/2015/03/10/kaa-and-snappy-ubuntu-at-mobile-world-congress-2015/
[05:15] <lotuspsychje> mss kom je die op foto2 tegen :p
[05:18] <OerHeks> nee, dat is de mobile congress
[05:18] <OerHeks> maar mischien ook wel ..
[05:18] <lotuspsychje> kweet :p
[05:19] <OerHeks> en Mark heeft geen baard meer
[05:20] <lotuspsychje> nop :p
[05:21] <lotuspsychje> glad geschoren voor zo'n groot publiek nu
[05:22] <OerHeks> http://www.mobileworldlive.com/interview-canonical-ceo
[05:22] <OerHeks> bijna ...
[05:25] <lotuspsychje> ja had die al gezien
[07:33] <OerHeks> \o/ trijntje
[07:33] <OerHeks> ga je mee ? http://www.eventbrite.co.uk/e/canonicals-2015-openstack-roadshow-amsterdam-registration-16182231490?utm_term=amsterdamroadshow&utm_medium=url_shortner&utm_source=ubunteu&utm_campaign=shortner
[07:36] <trijntje> o/ OerHeks, ik denk het niet ;) Ga jij wel?
[07:36] <OerHeks> Ja, ik heb al kaartje besteld
[07:39] <trijntje> nice, wel leuk dat het in amsterdam is
[07:40] <OerHeks> psies .. ik zag eerst alleen Frankdurt, te ver fietsen..
[08:59] <MichaelTiebesl> hoi allemaal
[09:19] <lordievader> Goede morgen.
[17:18] <mees> ik wil linux op mijn usb installeren hoe moet dat in windows
[17:18] <mees> weet iemand hoe dat moet
[17:25] <OerHeks>
[18:52] <mandje> mees had 15 seconden tijd om te wachten op een antwoord.
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2015-04-10-#ubuntu-us-mi
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[02:48] <cmaloney> Evening
[13:04] <cmaloney> Good morning
[13:56] <cmaloney> TGIF and all that.
[14:08] <cmaloney> Text <- entirety of the plain-text body of a Dodge service specials email I received.
[14:10] <jrwren> all these stupid computer watches stir fond memories of timex datalink
[14:11] <ColonelPanic001> heh
[14:16] <cmaloney> jrwren: I wish I could share in the fond memories
[14:16] <cmaloney> but the Datalink never had decent Linux support. :)
[14:18] <jrwren> truth!
[14:19] <jrwren> that may have been why I stopped using mine.
[14:39] <SneakyPhil> jcastro: the image in your http://www.jorgecastro.org/2015/04/09/keeping-your-options-open/ post is missing
[17:43] <greg-g> rick_h_: "reorg" is the word du month
[17:44] <greg-g> hence the /me breathes
[17:47] <jrwren> greg-g: is new CTO!!!
[18:49] <greg-g> jrwren: not 100% far from the truth
[19:03] <cmaloney> CIO
[19:03] <cmaloney> CGO
[19:03] <cmaloney> Chief Greg Officer.
[19:03] <cmaloney> letterhead: "From the office of my own bad self"
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2024-05-13T22:11:11.368527
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"ColonelPanic001",
"SneakyPhil",
"cmaloney",
"greg-g",
"jrwren"
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"channel": "#ubuntu-us-mi"
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2015-04-10-#ubuntu-pt
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[03:09] <astroo-> ciao pessoal
[21:01] <astroo-> ola pessoal
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ubuntu-chat
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2024-05-13T22:11:11.369236
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"astroo-"
],
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"channel": "#ubuntu-pt"
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2015-04-19-#ubuntu-ir
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[16:02] <SubaruSVX> can someone please help me translate a sentence http://i.imgur.com/3sZaTYf.png
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ubuntu-chat
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2024-05-13T22:11:11.371983
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"SubaruSVX"
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2015-04-19-#ubuntu-se
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[07:37] <Hund> Emojis är ett dumt påhitt.
[07:46] <bamsefar> Du är ett påhitt!
[11:08] <huttan> Emojis är najs som fan ju!
[11:08] <huttan> Speciellt nu med de nya nyanserna, så man kan köra negeremojis rätt över
[11:08] <huttan> :)
[13:16] <Hund> bamsefar: Ät din honung och var tyst. :P
[13:17] <bamsefar> :D
[13:18] <Hund> Weechat till Android är nice.
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2024-05-13T22:11:11.374797
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"Hund",
"bamsefar",
"huttan"
],
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"channel": "#ubuntu-se"
}
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2015-04-19-#ubuntu-us-ca
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[05:11] <nhaines> Meeting reminder sent! \o/
[05:11] <ianorlin> yay
[05:13] <nhaines> I expected to send the reminder at the OCLUG meeting but it was busy and there wasn't a moment beforehand.
[05:30] * ianorlin couldn't go cauase of personal stuff
[05:45] <nhaines> It was interesting. I had my Nexus 7 and was showing off windowed and staged mode and everyone was exciting.
[05:46] <nhaines> If they get XMir into the images in the next two months and also mirrored display mode I'll do a presentation on it.
[19:13] <ianorlin> ah that could be nice nhaines
[23:24] <nhaines> ping pleia2 or anyone else up there who live in San Francisco and have driven to Monterey. I'm editing a book and have a question about traffic and whether you can detour to avoid traffic but still travel via coastal roads. (yes or no will do it.)
[23:33] <pleia2> that is a strange question :)
[23:33] <pleia2> by definition, there is only one coastal road (since there's only one coast!) so any detour would have to take you away from it
[23:34] <pleia2> in some of the towns along the coastal highway there are routes in town that take you away from the coast, but then it's not "coastal roads"
[23:35] <pleia2> but honestly, the coastal roads are really just for being pretty, they take forever and we've only done the santa cruz to san francisco drive (which took about 2 hours vs 75 minutes)
[23:35] <pleia2> not all the way monterey to san francisco
[23:39] <nhaines> pleia2: that's what I seemed to recall, but I haven't been through Monterey since I was 12 (Monterey Bay Aquarium! <3) and so I wasn't sure if it made any sense to get off PCH. Although I rather doubted it.
[23:39] <nhaines> She also kept referring to visiting "the pier" and I was like "I don't think anyone calls the Fisherman's Wharf that". :)
[23:40] <pleia2> in SF?
[23:40] <nhaines> In Monterey.
[23:40] <pleia2> ah
[23:40] <pleia2> cannery row :)
[23:41] <nhaines> I remember the Steinbeck museum but not much else. The book's description sounds more like Santa Monica Pier (or Boardwalk).
[23:44] <pleia2> there are a lot of shops
[23:44] <pleia2> we stayed at the intercontinental right on the row when we were there last, next to the aquarium <3
[23:46] <nhaines> It's a romance novella and they go to the pier and walk along the stalls buying decorative candles or whatever. But the author's British so even though I'm just filling in for her copyeditor (I usually just do EPUB formatting) I thought I'd throw in a little developmental editing as well.
[23:46] <nhaines> Because you now how people get when they're reading a book set in a real place and it doesn't match up.
[23:47] * pleia2 nods
[23:47] <pleia2> decorative candles are right on for cannery row though!
[23:49] <pleia2> I think they cost like $50 each ;)
[23:49] <nhaines> Ha! Well, the leading male protagonist is exceedingly wealthy or something, so that works. Maybe not from a boardwalk stall though. ;)
[23:50] <nhaines> Thanks, pleia2 added to the Word document comments.
[23:51] <akk> nhaines: At least from San Jose, it's much faster to get to Monterey via 101 and then cut across at one of the crossing highways -- 156 or I can't remember the other one's number.
[23:52] <akk> ah, 68 is the other one
[23:53] <akk> but you can hit traffic on 101 too, on weekends or rush hours
[23:53] <nhaines> akk: I get the impression the "detour" was to take a romantic scenic coastal route, so I assume the edit will be to remove the info about traffic/time detour. I just mentioned coastal traffic sucks and that's why I stick to the 5 going to either San Diego or San Francisco. ;)
[23:54] <akk> Yeah, 5 is the fast route for sure.
[23:54] <nhaines> I'll add that too, though. They leave Saturday morning so I'm sure it won't hurt the story.
[23:54] <akk> 5 not an option for SF-Monterey, of course.
[23:57] <nhaines> Naturally.
[23:58] <nhaines> Thanks for that. Super useful. Also next time I drive up there (to visit the Computer History Museum in Mountain View, obviously), I should stop in Monterey.
[23:58] <akk> The Aquarium is still pretty impressive.
[23:59] <nhaines> Otters <3
[23:59] <pleia2> it's one of my favorites
[23:59] <nhaines> Also I always loved the jellyfish exhibits.
[23:59] <akk> and penguins! and yeah, jellyfish (though I think the jellyfish and seahorse exhibits at Long Beach are a little better).
[23:59] <akk> but mostly I like the two Big Tanks
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2024-05-13T22:11:11.379550
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"akk",
"ianorlin",
"nhaines",
"pleia2"
],
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"channel": "#ubuntu-us-ca"
}
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2015-04-19-#ubuntu-us-co
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[13:41] <mynameismevin> wow. I see like 4 of my current/past coworkers in this group.
[13:41] <mynameismevin> small world.
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"mynameismevin"
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2015-04-19-#ubuntu-ru
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[00:26] <sergey> msg nickserv info Serg
[00:28] <sergey> msg nickserv register zfr23gb87 [email protected]
[02:51] <svetlana`> sergey, привет
[02:51] <svetlana`> не хватает '/' и надо другой пароль
[02:51] <andrex> и мыло
[02:52] <svetlana`> ещё ник кем-то уже зарегистрирован но им не пользуются; зайти на #freenode и сказать 'please drop this unused nickname for me' должно сработать
[02:53] <svetlana`> со временем
[02:53] <svetlana`> они там полудохлые по выходным
[02:54] <andrex> sergey: https://freenode.net/faq.shtml#contents-userregistration
[02:55] <andrex> етом поди ваще все затихает)
[04:06] <andrex> [Green]: дарофф
[07:45] <sergey> /msg ubuntuhelp !Serg
[07:45] <sergey> /msg ubuntuhelp Serg
[12:43] <legal> впервые собираю ядро, команда patch - постойнно спрашивает подтверждение - можно ли как то автоматизировать?
[12:50] <legal> что ставить сразу - patch или inc.patch?
[12:53] <legal> впервые собираю ядро, команда patch - постойнно спрашивает подтверждение - можно ли как то автоматизировать?
[16:20] <abdvac> Привет пасанэ
[16:21] <abdvac> друзья
[16:21] <abdvac> товарищи
[16:21] <Serg_49_rus> привет
[16:21] <abdvac> помогите люди добрые
[16:22] <abdvac> Serg_49_rus привет
[16:22] <abdvac> Серега зовут ?
[16:23] <Serg_49_rus> да
[16:23] <abdvac> Серега ты в линуксе разбираешся ? мена Василий зовут
[16:24] <Serg_49_rus> я тут новенький))) да и с убунту общаюсь немногим более мсяца еще разбираюсь
[16:24] <Serg_49_rus> оч приятно познакомиться
[16:24] <abdvac> )) я позавчера установил )
[16:24] <abdvac> просто прогу не могу установить хотя она на линукс идет
[16:25] <Serg_49_rus> у меня до сих пор гугл помогает
[16:25] <abdvac> ну да я понимаю тебя я так и искал но там пойми для меня темный лес судо мудо
[16:26] <abdvac> я просто подумал может тут кто есть
[16:26] <Serg_49_rus> пока эксперементировал 2 раза залез куда-то система слетала
[16:26] <Serg_49_rus> а что не можешь ??
[16:27] <abdvac> ну я устанавливал как с гугла нарыл и главное как вроде установилась прога но при запуске не запускалась
[16:27] <Serg_49_rus> может вместе разберемся
[16:27] <abdvac> есть программа Brosix
[16:27] <abdvac> она для общения
[16:27] <Serg_49_rus> какая прога
[16:27] <abdvac> у меня в ней и брат и друзья без нее не могу
[16:28] <abdvac> Brosix
[16:28] <abdvac> на сайте у них есть версии для линукс
[16:28] <abdvac> у меня она винде была а тут без нее не могу
[16:29] <abdvac> тут ссылки можно давать ?
[16:29] <Serg_49_rus> хз
[16:29] <abdvac> ща попробую
[16:30] <abdvac> http://ru.brosix.com/download/
[16:31] <abdvac> вот там на сайте есть и на линукс но почему то как там написано способ установки не пашет
[16:31] <abdvac> единственное спасает то что есть веб версия
[16:32] <abdvac> но это не полноценная версия там только писать не позвонить
[16:32] <Serg_49_rus> а какой линух у тебя?
[16:34] <abdvac> Kubuntu
[16:34] <abdvac> Kubuntu 14
[16:39] <abdvac> Kubuntu 14
[16:50] <Serg_49_rus> http://ru.brosix.com/download/linux/
[16:50] <Serg_49_rus> ты от сюда брал?
[16:51] <abdvac> lf
[16:51] <abdvac> да
[16:51] <abdvac> я думал ты вышел
[16:51] <Serg_49_rus> http://ru.brosix.com/tutorials/video/
[16:51] <Serg_49_rus> а тут видео смотрел по установке
[16:52] <abdvac> я смотрел и делал как все там но говорю же ничего
[16:52] <Serg_49_rus> да инета нет.... менее 64кб/с
[16:52] <abdvac> ничего сибе над тобой издеваются давая такую скорость
[16:53] <abdvac> я вроде бы нашел выход
[16:54] <abdvac> я решил установить ща виртуальную машину и на нее поставить вин 7 и там установить те программы кторые тут не могу
[16:55] <abdvac> а так я делал как насайте показано и написано нет система выдавла что неизвестный формат и т п
[16:56] <Serg_49_rus> а ну через виртуалку тоже вариант
[16:56] <Serg_49_rus> http://help.ubuntu.ru/wiki/%D1%83%D1%81%D1%82%D0%B0%D0%BD%D0%BE%D0%B2%D0%BA%D0%B0_%D0%BF%D1%80%D0%BE%D0%B3%D1%80%D0%B0%D0%BC%D0%BC
[16:56] <Serg_49_rus> тут про установку в линуксе
[16:57] <abdvac> хорошая ссылочка
[16:58] <abdvac> кстати вот этот чат тоже классно придумали не надо регатся зашел он имя пк берет и все, круто и с людьми живыми общаешся кстати на ссылку когда навожу курсором то предосмотр идет
[16:59] <Serg_49_rus> эт да
[16:59] <abdvac> там мне надо Установка из deb-пакета
[17:00] <abdvac> но я читал уже где то и делал как написали но он установился но не работал
[17:00] <abdvac> думаю ща пробовать с виртуальной машиной если не пойдет что то тогда буду читать
[17:01] <Serg_49_rus> ))
[17:06] <abdvac> Серега а что за провайдер у тебя который так над тобой издевается
[17:10] <Serg_49_rus> мтс
[17:11] <Serg_49_rus> я с магадана. тут с интернетом совсем беда
[17:12] <abdvac> у меня мтс но норм у меня скорость как для 3G думаю 6 мегабит/с нормально
[17:12] <abdvac> я правда антену сам себе смастерил
[17:13] <abdvac> с ней получше стало раньше 4 мегабит было
[17:13] <Serg_49_rus> какую антену?
[17:13] <abdvac> для модема
[17:14] <abdvac> уровень сигнала вырос на два деления с антеной
[17:14] <Sergey_IT> "установился но не работал"... неконструктивно
[17:15] <abdvac> привет, да вот таквот
[17:15] <Serg_49_rus> сигнал то нормальный компания так тут раздает
[17:15] <Sergey_IT> логи, сообщения в консоль смотри
[17:15] <abdvac> ну да я наслышал от друзей кторорые в разных городах
[17:16] <Serg_49_rus> о нас?
[17:16] <abdvac> Sergey_IT тут у меня было так он начал установку я через теминал делал как на сайте каком то написано было все установил
[17:17] <abdvac> но
[17:17] <abdvac> он то появился у меня в меню пуск я начинаю запускать его на курсоре прыгает маленткий логотипик проги и на этом все
[17:18] <abdvac> <Serg_49_rus нет не о вас а о мтс о том что он в разных регионах по разному работает
[17:20] <abdvac> первый этап прошел ща установки виртуальной машины перезагрузка пошла
[17:20] <abdvac> потираю руки
[17:20] <Sergey_IT> можно попробовать запустить из терминала и посмотреть вывод
[17:21] <abdvac> <Sergey_IT дело в том что я в линукс как три дня я вообще незнаю эту систему как и что смотреть для меня темный лес
[17:21] <Sergey_IT> с виртуалкой могут быть проблемы
[17:22] <Sergey_IT> а зачем тебе линукс?
[17:23] <abdvac> решил узнать или познать как угодно просто много наслышал про эту систему а я токой человек что хочу попробовать сравнить
[17:23] <Sergey_IT> а почитать пробовал, для начала?
[17:23] <abdvac> что именно ?
[17:24] <Sergey_IT> про линукс
[17:26] <abdvac> ну если я ее установил то читал наверное, и читать о системе которой у тебя нет и не поторогать думаю тоже не актуально
[17:27] <abdvac> я же не ит специалист а просто решил попробовать и начал с малого с установки
[17:28] <abdvac> сама система понравилась приятная на глаз да и набор программ имеется свой у нее но вот с установкой других прог не разобрался пока
[17:28] <abdvac> вот это и буду читать
[17:29] <abdvac> сейчас решил пока установить виртуальную машину с вин 7 и на ней проги установить те кторых нет у меня тут и которые мне очень нужны
[17:30] <Sergey_IT> хорошо... но установка обычно описана в доках, а вот если не работает, то может чего не хватает и надо иметь дополнительную информацию и гуглить по ней (в 99% случаев решение находится
[17:31] <abdvac> Согласен с Вами но по способу из гугла прошла установка о которой я писал
[17:32] <Sergey_IT> abdvac, кстати, я тоже не специалист ит
[17:32] <abdvac> да надо конечно же еще инфу искать и читать я не спорю и я буду искать
[17:33] <abdvac> просто мне бросикс очень нужен и пока решил временно хоть его на виртуалке установить пока тут не разберусь
[17:36] <abdvac> я кстати несколько проблем решил через гуглик там у меня ошибка вылетала постоянно нашел инфу решил ее и еще чет сделал не помню
[17:41] <abdvac> семерка установилась обновления качает, курю
[17:50] <Sergey_IT> а до этого винды не было?
[17:55] <abdvac> была, на линуксе вертуальной небыло
[18:01] <abdvac> что то с общей пакой не идет работа в винде неотображается
[18:01] <abdvac> не могу на винду кинуть файлы
[18:01] <abdvac> плагины какие то надо скачать
[18:09] <Sergey_IT> у тебя вин7 в виртуалке?
[18:09] <abdvac> да
[18:09] <abdvac> професонал
[18:09] <abdvac> 32
[18:09] <abdvac> бит
[18:11] <Sergey_IT> virtualbox-guest-additions-iso поставил?
[18:13] <Sergey_IT> virtualbox-guest-utils
[18:13] <abdvac> а как поставить ? и где
[18:14] <abdvac> мне для гостивой и для папок и флешки пишет нужно скачать плагин
[18:14] <Sergey_IT> в центре приложений должно быть
[18:14] <abdvac> ааа
[18:14] <abdvac> ок
[18:14] <abdvac> ща гляну Серег
[18:15] <abdvac> вот это нашел virtualbox-guest-additions-iso качает
[18:16] <Sergey_IT> утилиты тоже нужны
[18:16] <abdvac> хорошо
[18:16] <abdvac> тоже нашел
[18:17] <abdvac> большое спасибо
[18:17] <abdvac> а они автоматом работать будут ?
[18:17] <abdvac> при запуске машины ?
[18:25] <Sergey_IT> дополнения надо поставить в Вин7, где - е помню, может сама предложит (
[18:26] <Sergey_IT> .не.
[18:28] <abdvac> установил те пакеты но чет ничего, там в сообщение светит что надо пакет скачать и на английском я перепишу и скачаю
[18:31] <abdvac> вот что требует Oracle VM VirtualBoz Extension pack
[18:31] <abdvac> буду искать
[18:37] <abdvac> вроде бы разобрался
[18:37] <abdvac> на сайте виртуаке там надо скачать ALL Pack
[18:39] <abdvac> ошибку при установке выдает Не удалось установить плагин /tmp/Oracle_VM_VirtualBox_Extension_Pack-4.3.26-98988.vbox-extpack.
[18:39] <abdvac> VBoxExtPackRegister returned VERR_VERSION_MISMATCH, pReg=0000000000000000 ErrInfo='Helper version mismatch - expected 0x10002 got 0x10001'.
[18:43] <Sergey_IT> не надо качать, уже скачано при установке virtualbox-guest-additions-iso
[18:44] <abdvac> а в чем же дело тогда ?
[18:44] <abdvac> я имею в виду почему папки нет общей и USB не видет
[18:44] <Sergey_IT> лежит в /usr/share/virtualbox, установить в вин7 надо, но не помню как, поищи
[18:45] <Sergey_IT> через установку в вин7, должна увидеть этот iso
[18:47] <Sergey_IT> shared folder в Settings VM прописывается
[18:52] <abdvac> блин вот жесть то время то сколько потратил блин неужели нельзя дать скачать полную версию программы вот дурдом то по кусочкам собирать что то не зная что
[18:53] <abdvac> и все что не качаю не соотвецтвует и ошибки сплошные вот придурки
[18:53] <abdvac> неужели целу прогу нельзя дать скачать
[18:54] <Sergey_IT> в меню VM - devices - Insert gest additions CD image... - даолжна пойти установка
[19:02] <Sergey_IT> здесь написано http://help.ubuntu.ru/wiki/virtualbox
[19:02] <Sergey_IT> у меня по-английски
[19:07] <abdvac> занялся
[19:08] <abdvac> как на сайте что ты дал
[19:08] <abdvac> что то идет, буковки бегают
[19:08] <abdvac> не успеваю прочитать
[19:09] <Sergey_IT> ставь из реп, а не с сайта, могут быть проблемы
[19:11] <abdvac> не я как на сайте что ты дал как там написано делаю
[19:13] <Sergey_IT> не добавляй репы оракла, не надо
[19:14] <Sergey_IT> в репах убунту все есть, что надо
[19:18] <abdvac> кстати почему то нет звуковых сигналов в этом чате по приходу сообщений хотя в настройках стоит воспроизводить
[19:20] <Sergey_IT> не знаю, у меня звук выключен
[19:22] <Sergey_IT> и клиенты разные
[19:22] <abdvac> а ты с какой лин сидишь ?
[19:23] <Sergey_IT> runtu-lite
[19:24] <abdvac> не слышал надо будет глянуть я слакс пробовал с флешки но чет не понравилось и еще некоторые пробовал легкие
[19:25] <Sergey_IT> это урезанная сборка на основе lubuntu
[19:27] <abdvac> я ща глянул в инете ее
[19:27] <abdvac> а я кубунту установил полную на диск
[19:28] <abdvac> а на твоей лине сохранения есть после перезагрузки ?
[19:28] <Sergey_IT> какие сохранения?
[19:28] <abdvac> изминений
[19:29] <abdvac> е
[19:29] <Sergey_IT> каких?
[19:29] <abdvac> ну ты поработал на ней после перезагруски изменения сохраняются ?
[19:30] <Sergey_IT> так какие? Не понял
[19:30] <abdvac> да любые
[19:31] <abdvac> есть с лины с флешек там кадый раз все по новой
[19:32] <Sergey_IT> смотря как флешка записана, есть с сохранением
[19:32] <abdvac> при каждой новой загрузки всегда все как стандартно то что делал до этого ничего не сохраняется
[19:32] <abdvac> а у тебя ?
[19:33] <Sergey_IT> я с флешек не запускаю, но при записи iso бывает пункт - дополнительное место для сохранения изменений - тогда сохраняет
[19:34] <abdvac> а ты легкую версию на ПК установил ?
[19:34] <Sergey_IT> и на ПК и на нетбук
[19:34] <abdvac> ок
[19:34] <abdvac> понял
[19:34] <Sergey_IT> свистелки не нужны
[19:34] <abdvac> я думал ты с флеки грузишся
[19:34] <Sergey_IT> у меня вин нет
[19:35] <abdvac> я таилс с флешки запускал но чет страница его недоступна более
[19:35] <Sergey_IT> в виртуалке поставил только, для внесения изменений в свои старые проги
[19:36] <abdvac> может тайлс прикрыли
[19:36] <Sergey_IT> а это что?
[19:36] <abdvac> он же как анонимный был
[19:36] <abdvac> лин анонимный
[19:36] <abdvac> с тором
[19:37] <Sergey_IT> не интересовался
[19:38] <abdvac> хотя нет все впорялке значит у них с сервером тогда что то было сейчас сайт доступен
[19:38] <abdvac> https://tails.boum.org/
[19:40] <abdvac> мне нравилось в нем что он не только айпи менял но и системное время под каждую страну где айпи присвоен и можно указывать систему ос под какую косить
[19:40] <Sergey_IT> мне скрывать нечего
[19:40] <abdvac> и мне
[19:41] <abdvac> но сейчас время такое что за всеми идет слежка мониторинги итп а я не жилаю быть скотом
[19:42] <Sergey_IT> это фобия, скоро лечиться пойдешь
[19:42] <abdvac> мне с этой фобией хорошо
[19:43] <abdvac> это правдивая фобия о которой уже все знают
[19:43] <abdvac> весь мир уже знает что слежка идет за всеми
[19:45] <Sergey_IT> никогда проблем не было... 20 лет инете
[19:45] <abdvac> и не будут
[19:45] <abdvac> мнение масс используют в своих целях
[19:46] <abdvac> для разжигания конфликтов и проверки своих трудов
[19:46] <abdvac> Сноудена почитай
[19:47] <abdvac> да говорить об этом смысла нет чет не в ту степь пошло это дело личное и каждое
[19:47] <abdvac> каждого
[19:48] <Sergey_IT> Сноудена не читал и не буду... у меня большие сомнения о нем
[19:48] <abdvac> это фобия
[19:49] <abdvac> новую машину установил и теперь на ней инета нет )
[19:50] <Sergey_IT> какую?
[19:51] <abdvac> туже 7ъ
[19:51] <abdvac> ты не вкурсе какую надо сеть указать
[19:51] <abdvac> если 3G Мдем
[19:51] <abdvac> ща стоит NAT
[19:53] <Sergey_IT> не знаю, у меня винХр и сеть не настроена, за ненадобностью
[19:55] <Sergey_IT> в описаниях посмотри, в хелпе, что я тебе давал, там и про сеть должно быть
[19:55] <abdvac> ОК
[20:11] <abdvac> Серег а тебе линукс как устраивает ? лучше винды ?
[20:22] <Sergey_IT> abdvac, мне хватает, перешел 7лет назад
[20:24] <abdvac> ясненько
[20:25] <Sergey_IT> от задачз ависит
[20:25] <abdvac> ну да согласен
[20:33] <abdvac> у меня на винде была прога виртальный роутер через свисток адаптер раздавал WI FI жене на ноут а в линукс есть что то подобное ?
[20:36] <Sergey_IT> я простейшую схему использую, от провайдера в роутер с вайфай и все устройства в одной сети
[20:42] <abdvac> так у меня три джи модем я на винде подключал адаптер которых ловит файфай но с помощю проги виртуал роутер она передовала через этот свисток файфай
[20:44] <abdvac> cxbnfq hjenths ybrfrbt yt ye;ys
[20:44] <abdvac> считай роутеры никакие не нужны
[20:45] <Sergey_IT> сочувствую, у меня нормальные провайдеры
[20:47] <abdvac> так а тут провайдерв не причем вовсе
[20:47] <abdvac> мне нужно возможность передачи вайфай через свисток обычный
[20:47] <abdvac> как на винде делал я
[20:48] <abdvac> я кстати настроил ща инет на машине
[20:50] <Sergey_IT> и хорошо, а мне просто не нужно, я из винды в нет не хожу
[20:51] <abdvac> так я же писал для чего вин ставлю на машину что бы прогу тут установить что мне нужна Бросикс
[20:52] <abdvac> она без инета не пашет это общалка со множественными инструментами
[20:52] <abdvac> у меня в ней брат и друзья
[20:53] <abdvac> если бы не эта прога я бы вообще незамарачивался на счет машины виртуальной
[20:56] <Sergey_IT> так может в линуксе ее поставить, пакет же есть... может повозиться придется, но зато систему изучишь
[20:58] <abdvac> да это понятно я так и буду делать но пока я буду тут возится времени неизвестно сколько пройдет вот и ставлю на вин 7 машине пока возится буду
[20:58] <abdvac> мне надо с людьми общатся
[20:58] <abdvac> с Братом и друзьми
[21:00] <abdvac> вот уже новые сутки это уже третии пока вожусь
[21:03] <Sergey_IT> общаться лучше в живую
[21:06] <abdvac> ага, если все в разных городах большая часть в Мос обл
[21:06] <abdvac> я не против в живую )
[21:06] <abdvac> приезжают но редко и я к ним
[23:55] <abdvac> Есть кто живой ?
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[17:38] <gerarnan> hola
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[03:50] <pino> ciao a tutti
[07:14] <akis24> giorno
[08:56] <dayyan> buongiorno. mi potete aiutare? il mio problema è questo: installazione fresca di 14.04 da livecd, in seguito ai vari aggiornamenti la ricezione del segnale wifi è drasticamente calata
[08:56] <dayyan> in pratica per essere connesso devo stare attaccato al modem
[08:58] <dayyan> si può risolvere?
[09:08] <bip> Buongiorno!
[09:11] <dayyan> buongiorno
[09:16] <marco85> buongiorno a tutti
[09:16] <marco85> ho installato sul mio pc ubuntu 14.04 LTS
[09:16] <marco85> ma non riesco a far funzionare flash
[09:17] <marco85> in particolare ho giù provato ad installare i vari pluggin ma l'installazione si blocca e non viene terminata
[09:17] <marco85> coma posso fare???
[09:17] <marco85> HELP ME!!!!!
[09:18] <akis24> marco85: quali plugin ?
[09:20] <marco85> quello flas
[09:20] <marco85> flash
[09:20] <marco85> e poi quello pepperflash
[09:21] <akis24> marco85: hai installato chrome ?
[09:21] <marco85> chromium
[09:22] <akis24> marco85: leggi qui http://wiki.ubuntu-it.org/InternetRete/Flash/PepperFlashPlayer
[09:22] <marco85> ok
[09:23] <marco85> grazie
[09:23] <akis24> prego
[09:25] <bip> marco85: l'installazione di blocca e non viene terminata. Qual è l'errore che riscontri? L'installazione la stai effettuando tramite terminale?
[09:25] <marco85> no
[09:26] <marco85> non ho usato il teminale
[09:27] <marco85> ma dalla barra di ricerca delle applicazioni
[09:39] <moz> how can I custom the chapter titles, so that I have: "First Chapter CHAPTERTITLE", "second Chapter CHAPTERTITLE" and so on?
[09:40] <cristian_c> !english | moz
[09:40] <ubot-it> moz: Please join the international channel #ubuntu if you want to speak english. Here only italian language is permitted. Thank you
[10:03] <roboso1> buongiorno ragazzi mi chiedevo una cosa... siccome ho un pc con una scheda video intel integrata nella cpu e una su pci express è possibile far andare un gioco con la nvidia e fare la cattura video con l'altra? o è una cosa insensata?
[10:09] <cristian_c> roboso1, beh, in teoria, con optimus si potrebbe pure fare
[10:09] <cristian_c> se non c'è uno switch esclusivo
[10:09] <cristian_c> (ora non ricordo il nome)
[10:09] <cristian_c> optimus è utilizzabile sui portatili
[10:09] <cristian_c> roboso1, però dovresti fornire maggiori dettagli
[10:14] <roboso1> cristian_c: e si dipende da che dettagli ti servono... cmq wine + wow e uso simplescreenrecorder
[10:14] <roboso1> cristian_c: scheda video 1 su cpu intel e l'altra nvidia su pciex
[10:20] <cristian_c> roboso1, wine è qualcosa di non convenzionale
[10:21] <cristian_c> roboso1, sui pc desktop non c'è optimus
[10:23] <cristian_c> roboso1, quello che puoi fare è pilotare schermi diversi
[10:24] <cristian_c> roboso1, teoricamente se hai due desktop su due schermi, potresti eseguire differenti applicazioni
[10:25] <roboso1> cristian_c: sui desktop non c'è prime?????
[10:26] <cristian_c> roboso1, onestamente ti consiglio di far girare i giochi win su windows per ottenere maggiori prestazioni
[10:26] <cristian_c> wine mi sembra una soluzione che può non dare i frutti sperati
[10:26] <cristian_c> roboso1, eh, no
[10:26] <cristian_c> è stato creato apposta per i portatili
[10:29] <roboso1> sono 5 anni che gioco da wine... ci devo smanettare un po' ma funziona...
[10:29] <roboso1> poi smettetela di rimandare gli utenti a usare windows..
[10:30] <cristian_c> roboso1, non è un rimando fine a se stesso
[10:30] <cristian_c> roboso1, con wine fuhziona così: ci sono applicazioni/giochi che vanno bene, applicazioni/giochi che vanno con ottimizzazioni o che vanno così così, e infine applicazioni/giochi che non vanno per niente
[10:31] <roboso1> lo so
[10:31] <roboso1> ma dire a un utente vai su windows non è bello...
[10:31] <cristian_c> dipende dal grado di supporto che wine può fornire, perciò si rimanda all'utilizzo sul sistema operativo per cui sono nati, che è la cosa che ha più senso
[10:31] <roboso1> in ogni caso... è come levarsi la palla dal piede stile call center vodafone...
[10:32] <cristian_c> roboso1, no no, ho spiegato che non è così
[10:32] <roboso1> va bene allroa facciamo così
[10:32] <roboso1> uso tuxcart
[10:33] <cristian_c> sopratutto considerando il fatto che hai chiesto di utilizzare due schede grafiche per poter svolgere più operazioni nello stesso momento
[10:33] <roboso1> si può fare un rendering della sessione di gioco? coon una scheda e farlo andare sull'altra?
[10:33] <cristian_c> altrimenti potresti fare tutto con una scheda sola
[10:33] <roboso1> su una scheda sola lo faccio già ora
[10:34] <cristian_c> roboso1, ok, ma a che scopo due schede?
[10:34] <roboso1> ma per ogni fps ha la cattura me lo ciuccia dal gioco..
[10:34] <roboso1> questo lo fa anche sun windows...
[10:34] <cristian_c> considerata la complicazione che comporta
[10:34] <roboso1> per avere fps più alti in gioco... e un video di qualità migliore...
[10:34] <cristian_c> roboso1, quindi è un problema di prestazioni
[10:35] <cristian_c> e si ritorna allo stesso punto di prima,
[10:35] <cristian_c> cerchi di usare due schede per liberare risorse e ottenere migliori prestazioni
[10:36] <roboso1> e si
[10:37] <roboso1> ma non credere che su windows sia meglio
[10:37] <roboso1> anzi... va peggio...
[10:37] <cristian_c> roboso1, non credo che sia possibile su un pc desktop catturare con una scheda il gioco che gira su un'altra, su un solo schermo, a prescindere dal sistema utilizzato
[10:37] <roboso1> su lunix la cattura se la fai in opengl hai meno perdita di fps...
[10:37] <cristian_c> roboso1, di quale pc si parla?
[10:38] <roboso1> un pc assembrato.
[10:38] <cristian_c> e quale scheda nvidia
[10:38] <roboso1> 560 ti
[10:38] <cristian_c> con quale cpu?
[10:38] <roboso1> 4670k i5
[10:38] <roboso1> msi scheda madre
[10:39] <cristian_c> con quali driver sopratutto
[10:40] <roboso1> 331.20
[10:41] <cristian_c> il processore è più recente
[10:41] <roboso1> si
[10:42] <roboso1> non avevo soldi per cambiare pure la scheda video...
[10:42] <cristian_c> beh, comunque non è una cattiva scheda
[10:42] <cristian_c> fa ancora la sua figura
[10:42] <roboso1> inzomma...
[10:42] <roboso1> non hai idea delle ore di gioco che ha sulle spalle...
[10:42] <cristian_c> nel 2011 andava bene
[10:43] <cristian_c> seppure non top di gamma
[10:43] <roboso1> e quante volte sia andata in protezione... per la temperatura...
[10:43] <cristian_c> roboso1, l'hai overclockata?
[10:44] <roboso1> no
[10:44] <roboso1> ma dopo 11 ore di raid da 25...
[10:45] <roboso1> porella...
[10:45] <cristian_c> roboso1, su quale ubuntu sei?
[10:45] <roboso1> precise
[10:45] <cristian_c> roboso1, quali driver utilizzi invece su windows?
[10:45] <cristian_c> roboso1, perché non trusty?
[10:45] <cristian_c> o utopic
[10:45] <roboso1> windows l'ho installato per provare su un secondo hd
[10:46] <roboso1> ma ho visto che andava peggio ho formattato...
[10:46] <cristian_c> quindi non sai quali driver hai utilizzato?
[10:46] <roboso1> penso che in casa mia sia stta l'unica volta che abbia visto windows..
[10:47] <ExPBoy> attento che ti ammali
[10:47] <roboso1> l'ho fatto la settimana scorsa...
[10:47] <roboso1> quindi erano gli ultimi...
[10:47] <roboso1> sarà 349
[10:47] <cristian_c> roboso1, come hai installato i 331?
[10:48] <cristian_c> quale versione di wine utilizzi?
[10:48] <cristian_c> e come l'hai installato?
[10:49] <roboso1> allrora ho provato la wine-staging
e come l'hai installato?
[10:50] <roboso1> e wine la 1.7.40
[10:51] <roboso1> compilato
[10:51] <roboso1> sempre
[10:51] <ExPBoy> lol
[10:51] <roboso1> mai da repo
[10:51] <ExPBoy> eh
[10:51] <cristian_c> mmmmm
roboso1, come hai installato i 331?
[10:51] <roboso1> ho installato quelli del ppa xwat
[10:51] <cristian_c> staging però teoricamente non è stabile
[10:52] <roboso1> si ma è una prova
[10:52] <ExPBoy> ppa?
[10:52] <cristian_c> vale lo stesso discorso
[10:52] <ExPBoy> !ppa
[10:52] <ubot-it> Un Personal Package Archive (PPA) è in grado di fornire il software alternativo non normalmente disponibile nei repository di Ubuntu offical - Alla ricerca di un PPA? Vedi https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+ppas - ATTENZIONE: PPA sono pacchetti di terze parti NON supportati il cui utilizzo è a proprio rischio. Vedi anche !addppa e !ppa-purge
[10:52] <roboso1> già tolto
[10:52] <cristian_c> sopratutto facendolo sulla 12.04
[10:52] <cristian_c> roboso1, ti consiglio una cosa
[10:52] <cristian_c> roboso1, masterizza una live 14.04-14.10 a scelta
[10:52] <roboso1> ok già fatto
[10:52] <cristian_c> con quali driver?
[10:53] <cristian_c> con quale wine?
[10:53] <roboso1> sempre uguale... ultimo wine
[10:53] <ExPBoy> !wine
[10:53] <ubot-it> http://wiki.ubuntu-it.org/Virtualizzazione/Wine
[10:53] <roboso1> nvidia 331 dei repo
[10:53] <ExPBoy> !info wine
[10:53] <ubot-it> wine (source: wine1.6): Microsoft Windows Compatibility Layer (meta-package). In component universe, is extra. Version 1:1.6.2-0ubuntu4 (trusty), package size 0 kB, installed size 21 kB
[10:54] <cristian_c> roboso1, e utilizzando driver nvidia dei repository e wine dei repository?
[10:54] <cristian_c> intendo sulle ultime ubuntu
[10:54] <cristian_c> *repository ufficiali
[10:55] <roboso1> si si
[10:55] <roboso1> per non fare casini quando testo sempre ufficiali
[10:55] <cristian_c> roboso1, trovi differenze di driver solo con wow?
[10:55] <roboso1> ma no spe
[10:55] <roboso1> non ho capito dove vuoi arrivare
[10:56] <roboso1> allora non ho problemia fare andare le cose
[10:56] <cristian_c> roboso1, non è un interrogatorio
[10:56] <cristian_c> si cerca solo di capire se ci sono miglioramenti
[10:56] <cristian_c> roboso1, se non riesci a catturare senza significativa perdita di prestazioni
[10:57] <cristian_c> e anche da come hai descritto la situazione della scheda
[10:57] <roboso1> ma la cattura riesco a farla
[10:57] <ExPBoy> ?
[10:57] <roboso1> ma ciuccia parecchio
[10:57] <cristian_c> ma va?
[10:58] <roboso1> allora io non volevo perdere prestazioni
[10:58] <roboso1> cmq ti ringrazio per tutto ma ora devo andare al lavoro...
[10:58] <roboso1> ci si risente..
[12:52] <alviro> ciao a tutti, sto riscontrando da qualche giorno un comportamento anomalo di chromium
[12:53] <alviro> quando clicco su alcuni link mi porta su pagine di pubblicità, mi sembra di essere tornato a win
[13:02] <cristian_c> alviro, puoi postare un esempio?
[13:02] <cristian_c> ti accade soltanto con chrome?
[13:02] <alviro> solo con chromium
[13:03] <alviro> ad esempio sto sul sito di travian a giocare
[13:03] <alviro> voglio visualizzare una scheda, ad esempio quella del mio eroe, ed invece si apre una scheda di un sito di pubblicità
[13:04] <alviro> clicco per vedere una determinata cosa e mi si apre un sito che non c'entra nulla
[13:04] <alviro> pensavo ad un problema del sito di travian
[13:05] <alviro> invece oggi mi è successo anche su grooveshark
[13:06] <alviro> mi hanno consigliato di installare l'estensione Adblock Plus , ma perché se prima andava sempre tutto bene?
[13:10] <caveat-> alviro: usi chromium come tua scelta dopo aver considerato anche alternative?
[13:10] <alviro> a me piace firefox, uso chromium solo per alcune estensioni che su firefox nonci sono
[13:11] <alviro> sto provando inquesto momento Adblock Plus
[13:11] <caveat-> quali estensioni?
[13:11] <alviro> sembra che la cosa sia scomparsa
[13:12] <caveat-> in ogni caso su firefox anziche' adblock plus puoi provare ublock, che usa meno risorse e piu' efficiente
[13:14] <caveat-> alviro: non penso che tu debba essere obbligato ad usare chromium per via di estensioni esclusivamente create ad hoc per chromium
[13:14] <alviro> ok con Adblock Plus per ora su chromium sembra risolto il problema
[13:14] <alviro> ho installato chromium per avere altri programmi , tipo telegram
[13:16] <caveat-> alviro: telegram-fox
[13:18] <alviro> grazie!
[13:18] <alviro> e per scaricare gli mp3 da grooveshark?
[13:19] <alviro> cosi elimino chromium per sempre
[13:20] <cristian_c> alviro, domanda: sei loggato come root?
[13:20] <caveat-> alviro: questo dovrebbe https://github.com/gsteph/groove-dl
[13:30] <alviro> grazie vi faccio sapere,
[13:31] <cristian_c> lol
[13:39] <ErnestoF> buongiorno ho un pc sony vaio con installato windows xp. ho necessità di fare una partizione del disco perchè devo usare anche ubuntu però ho gia una unità di disco D che però è vuota e vorrei utilizzarla per metterci ubuntu. Potete aiutarmi?
[13:40] <cristian_c> ErnestoF, ciao
[13:41] <cristian_c> lol
[13:43] <Gianluigi> ciao ho un sony vaio con w. xp e vorrei fare la partizione del disco per utilizzare ubuntu però ho gia il disco partizionato con una unità vuota e vorrei utilizzarla per metterci dentro ubuntu. Potete aiutarmi?
[13:46] <cristian_c> Gianluigi, ma sei ernesto?
[13:47] <Gianluigi> ciao cristian_c si sono io ma un mio amico ha un problema e sono entrato con un altro nickname perchè con il mio nickname mi ha disconnesso
[13:47] <cristian_c> Gianluigi, il pc è dell'amico? Sicuro che sia realmente interessato a utilizzare ubuntu?
[13:48] <cristian_c> Gianluigi, prima di partizionare, farei fare un giro in live su quel pc. Ma dato l'os a cui andrà ad affiancarsi, sarebbe più appropriato provare Lubuntu
[13:50] <Gianluigi> cristian_c ascolta...sono ernesto il mio amico ha interesse ad utilizzare ubuntu anche perchè gia lo utilizza però con la virtual machine
[13:50] <Gianluigi> solo che gli va molto lenta e vorrebbe fare la partizione
[13:50] <Gianluigi> considera pure che il notebook è un pò datato
[13:50] <Gianluigi> puoi aiutarmi?
[13:50] <cristian_c> !aiuto
[13:51] <ubot-it> per cortesia non chiedere il permesso di chiedere, semplicemente formula la domanda (tutta su una riga, in modo tale che gli altri possano leggerla e seguirla con facilità). Se qualcuno conosce la risposta ti risponderà :-)
[13:51] <cristian_c> Gianluigi, ubuntu ha dei requisiti minimi. Non rispettarli, potrebbe minare serialmente l'esperienza d'utilizzo
[13:51] <cristian_c> !requisiti
[13:51] <ubot-it> requisiti is http://wiki.ubuntu-it.org/Installazione/RequisitiDiSistema
[13:52] <cristian_c> Gianluigi, ma un giro in live per verificare compatibilità , ecc... sarebbe comunque opportuno farlo
[13:52] <cristian_c> *seriamente
[13:52] <Gianluigi> ma che intendi per giro in live?
[13:52] <davide1> appunto e un po datato . prvoa prima di avere problematiche3 ubuntu venrsione live per vedere
[13:53] <cristian_c> Gianluigi, http://it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Live_CD
[13:54] <cristian_c> Gianluigi, la causa della lentezza, oltre che alla VM, si potrebbe attribuire alla 'pesantezza' di unity su una macchina come quella
[13:54] <Gianluigi> si ma sulla macchina virtuale gia funziona però va un pò lento e siccome devo fare delle elaborazioni ed utilizzare anche altri software vorrei fare la partizione
[13:54] <davide1> cosi vedi se ha rallentamento come xp...un consiglio mio non mettere ubuntu..
[13:54] <cristian_c> !lubuntu | Gianluigi
[13:54] <ubot-it> Gianluigi: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu
[13:54] <cristian_c> in modo da acquistare agilità
[13:55] <davide1> macchina virtuale è un conto. partizione il disco con a fianco xp è un altra cosa:)
[13:55] <Gianluigi> si ma io ho gia masterizzato l immagine iso su dvd
[13:55] <cristian_c> Gianluigi, bene, allora provala in live
[13:55] <cristian_c> Gianluigi, e nel caso, poi scarica la .iso di lubuntu
[13:56] <Gianluigi> no voglio utilizzare xubuntu perchè è quello che gia ho e che sto utilizzando
[13:56] <cristian_c> Gianluigi, ok, ma controlla sempre i requisiti ricbiesti
[13:56] <cristian_c> come da pagina linkata prima
[13:57] <Gianluigi> cristian_c e poi se lo utilizzo da live ho problemi nel salvataggio
[13:57] <cristian_c> Gianluigi, con la live non tocchi il disco
[13:57] <cristian_c> il sistema non gira su hard disk, in live
[13:57] <cristian_c> ma sul dvd stesso
[13:57] <cristian_c> e in ram
[13:58] <Gianluigi> ho controllato i requisiti e ce li ho
[13:58] <cristian_c> non potrai salvare le modifiche al sistema, ma perlomeno ti darà un'idea di come gira su quell'hardware
[13:58] <cristian_c> Gianluigi, ok, allora quando fai il boot da DVD, scegli 'Prova Xubuntu senza installare'
[13:58] <cristian_c> dal menù
[13:59] <Gianluigi> esatto cristian_c il mio problema è proprio che non riesco a impostare dvd dal boot perchè non è presente fra le 4 opzioni
[14:00] <Gianluigi> ho problema nell'abilitare le unità esterne
[14:02] <Gianluigi> le mie opzioni sono: internal optical drive - floppy drive - network - internal hard disk drive
[14:02] <Guest16742> buongiorno a tutti :) avrei bisogno di un'informazione riguardante i requisiti minimi per xubuntu
[14:02] <Gianluigi> ho bisogno di mettere come priorità pen drive o dvd come devo fare?
[14:03] <cristian_c> Gianluigi, lettore dvd interno?
[14:04] <Gianluigi> si è interno il lettore dvd
[14:04] <cristian_c> internal optical drive
[14:04] <Gianluigi> è gia impostato al primo posto!
[14:05] <cristian_c> Gianluigi, qual è il nome del file .iso?
[14:05] <cristian_c> cosa accade quando imposti il boot da dvd?
[14:05] <Gianluigi> allora non mi sono spiegato
[14:05] <Gianluigi> io non riesco proprio a far partire il dvd perchè non lo trovo nel boot
[14:05] <cristian_c> Guest16742, chiedi pure
[14:07] <Guest16742> con un AMD Athlon dual core 5000B da 2.60 GHz a 32 bit e 2.00 GB di ram, riuscirei a far girare in maniera abbastanza fluida xubuntu?
[14:09] <caveat-> Gianluigi: internal optical drive e' il lettore dvd interno
[14:09] <Gianluigi> ed è quello che è sempre stato impostato
[14:10] <caveat-> Gianluigi: perche' dici che "non lo trova"?
[14:10] <Gianluigi> comunque il file iso è: xubuntu-14.04.2desktop-amd64
[14:11] <Gianluigi> io ho provato prima con la chiavetta usb è non ci sono riuscito
[14:11] <Gianluigi> adesso ho masterizzato su dvd
[14:12] <cristian_c> Gianluigi, il pc che processore ha?
[14:12] <cristian_c> !requisiti | Guest16742
[14:12] <ubot-it> Guest16742: requisiti is http://wiki.ubuntu-it.org/Installazione/RequisitiDiSistema
[14:13] <Guest16742> ah non ero riuscito a trovarli! vi ringrazio :)
[14:13] <Gianluigi> sony vaio intel core due duo processore 1.66 Ghz hard disk 100 gb
[14:14] <Gianluigi> processore t5500
[14:14] <cristian_c> Gianluigi, hai verificato se il processore è a 32 o 64 bit?
[14:14] <Gianluigi> si ed è a 64 bit
[14:14] <cristian_c> ah, ok , è a 64 bit
[14:15] <Gianluigi> comunque avevate ragione ho proseguito ed è partito il dvd
[14:17] <cristian_c> Gianluigi, proseguito da cosa?
[14:19] <Gianluigi> allora mi è partita l'installazione di xubuntu
[14:20] <Gianluigi> mi è uscito la voce dove mi dice che il pc e gia dotato di s.o. xp e decido di installare ubuntu a fianco di windows
[14:20] <Gianluigi> procedo e mi da le opzioni di partizionamento
[14:21] <Guest16742> scusate un'ulteriore domanda: nel pacchetto rar che ho scaricato, contenente xubuntu, dove trovo l'immagine iso con cui creare la chiavetta di avvio?
[14:21] <Gianluigi> in cui mi dice che xubuntu occuperà 18.1 gb e poi un altra cartella con 23.4 gb
[14:24] <cristian_c> Gianluigi, sarebbe meglio se tu provassi in live prima di installare
[14:24] <Gianluigi> ciao guest16742 se posso esserti di aiuto ecco il link per l'immagine iso http://xubuntu.org/getxubuntu/#lts
[14:24] <cristian_c> come suggerito poc'anzi
[14:24] <Gianluigi> cristian_c grazie lo stesso ho risolto
[14:25] <cristian_c> Guest16742, non è un pacchetto .rar, il file scaricato ha già l'estensione .iso
[14:25] <cristian_c> Gianluigi, l'hai provato in modalità live?
[14:27] <Guest16742> avete ragione, quindi posso tranquillamente crearmi la chiavetta con quella cartella giusto?
[14:28] <cristian_c> Guest16742, no, hai scaricato il file .iso, puoi tranquillamente masterizzare quello
[14:28] <cristian_c> !usbwin | Guest16742
[14:28] <ubot-it> Guest16742: Scarica Universal USB Installer: http://www.pendrivelinux.com/universal-usb-installer-easy-as-1-2-3/ | Installalo su Windows e lancialo: lui si occuperà di trasferire l'immagine ISO su USB. Guida: http://www.ubuntu.com/download/desktop/create-a-usb-stick-on-windows | Opzionalmente questo programma può anche scaricare lui stesso l'immagine ISO
[14:28] <Gianluigi> no ho installato
[14:29] <Gianluigi> solo che all'ultimo passaggio non mi fa andare avanti
[14:29] <Gianluigi> dove mi chiede nome password ecc
[14:29] <Guest16742> ah sì, sto già utilizzando rufus :) grazie infinite ;)
[14:30] <cristian_c> Gianluigi, hai almeno seguito la guida all'installazione?
[14:31] <Gianluigi> si
[14:32] <Gianluigi> sta installando
[14:53] <Gianluigi> installazione andata a buon fine
[15:52] <gmteppa99> non riesco a eseguire il file scaricato... cone che programma lo eseguo? Io ho CyberLink
[15:52] <krabador> "non riesco a eseguire il file scaricato" ---> quale sistema , che tipo di file
[15:52] <krabador> hai i diritti d'autore del file che hai scaricato?
[15:53] <gmteppa99> Il file i Ubuntu... quello per scaricarlo
[15:53] <gmteppa99> no non li ho
[15:53] <krabador> gmteppa99, potresti spiegare quello che stai cercando di fare
[15:55] <gmteppa99> Sto cercando di installare ubuntu però non ci riesco perchè mi dice che il file è danneggiato o non supportato
[15:55] <krabador> !installazione | gmteppa99
[15:55] <ubot-it> gmteppa99: http://wiki.ubuntu-it.org/Installazione | Per installazione grafica http://wiki.ubuntu-it.org/Installazione/Grafica | Si consiglia la visione della guida ufficiale in inglese http://www.ubuntu.com/desktop/get-ubuntu/download
[15:56] <gmteppa99> ok grazie
[16:33] <ciaooooo> ciao...vorrei sapere come reinstallare ubuntu sul pc...qualcuno mi aiuta plis?
[16:33] <krabador> !installazione | ciaooooo
[16:33] <ubot-it> ciaooooo: http://wiki.ubuntu-it.org/Installazione | Per installazione grafica http://wiki.ubuntu-it.org/Installazione/Grafica | Si consiglia la visione della guida ufficiale in inglese http://www.ubuntu.com/desktop/get-ubuntu/download
[17:19] <yad> ciao a tutti ! ho un problema grave con la connessione del mio pc! sostanzialmente sono parecchi giorni che la conessione è totalmente instabile (dura pochi minuti e poi si disconnetteva salvo riprendersi dopo poco). oggi la connessione è stata completamente instabile (durava al massimo trenta secondi). non è un problema di rete perche tutti gli al
[17:19] <yad> tri miei dispositivi sono connessi. adesso il mio computer non vede neanche la rete (sto scrivendo da un altro pc)
[17:20] <cristian_c> yad, quale ubuntu stai utilizzando?
[17:27] <yad> 14.10
[17:28] <cristian_c> yad, in questi giorni è accaduto o hai fatto qualcosa di particolare con ubuntu?
[17:29] <yad> no, ho dato solo il comando iwconfig
[17:29] <cristian_c> non dico ora, dico in questi giorni
[17:29] <Fra_Supercar83> Ciao a tutti.
[17:30] <yad> no niente
[17:31] <Fra_Supercar83> ho scaricato la release di Ubuntu 14.10 che vorrei installare affianco a WIndows8 su un nuovo PC. Ho copiato l'immagine con il comando dd. La chiavetta è stata riconosciuta all'avvio di UEFI ma quando faccio partire la live mi dice che non è stato trovato il file vmlinuz e che devo caricare prima il kernel??
[17:31] <krabador> !usbwin | Fra_Supercar83
[17:31] <ubot-it> Fra_Supercar83: Scarica Universal USB Installer: http://www.pendrivelinux.com/universal-usb-installer-easy-as-1-2-3/ | Installalo su Windows e lancialo: lui si occuperà di trasferire l'immagine ISO su USB. Guida: http://www.ubuntu.com/download/desktop/create-a-usb-stick-on-windows | Opzionalmente questo programma può anche scaricare lui stesso l'immagine ISO
[17:32] <krabador> crea nuova tabella partizioni nella pendrive, riformattala fat32, usa questo e riprova
[17:34] <Fra_Supercar83> grazie krabador ma non vorrei essere troppo esigente ma visto che vorrei migliorare le mie conoscenze su come gira Linux e tutto quello che ci sta attorno volevo utilizzare il comando dd
[17:35] <krabador> Fra_Supercar83, il bios della macchina che stai usando potrebbe non avere un'impostazione che ti permette di far partire una pendrive creata con dd
[17:36] <Fra_Supercar83> krabador: ma visto che mi parte il menù iniziale dal quale posso scegliere se provare o installare Ubuntu penso che non sia un problema del Bios no?
[17:36] <krabador> hai provato entrambe le opzioni ?7
[17:37] <krabador> il fatto che una iso funzioni con dd, dipende anche dalla stessa isp
[17:37] <krabador> *o
[17:41] <Fra_Supercar83> beh si non va nè la live nè si avvia il processo di installazione. Domanda tecnica? Se l'output mi chiede di caricare il kernel, e il kernel lo carica il bootloader, e ho visgto che c'è il file grubx64.efi in /EFI/boot può essere che il problema sia il bootloader installato sulla chiavetta?
[17:41] <Fra_Supercar83> con dd è sempre andato tutto lisco in passato sia con Debian, Linux MInt che Ubuntu... :'(
[17:42] <krabador> Fra_Supercar83, non è una regola
[18:17] <sergios> salve salvino a tutti! vorrei capire se posso installare sul mio asus 1025c un sistema a 64 bit: pare che il processore supporti tale sistema ma al comando "lscpu" mi restituisce i686 http://paste.ubuntu.com/10852250/ è possibile che debba attivare tale funzionalità (magari dal bios)?
[18:18] <krabador> sergios, cat /proc/cpuinfo
[18:20] <sergios> krabador http://paste.ubuntu.com/10852272/
[18:21] <krabador> se hai 64bit, vai tranquillo
[18:22] <krabador> hai 64bit, vai tranquillo
[18:22] <krabador> senza se
[18:24] <sergios> krabador grazie ottimo! ;)
[18:27] <sergios> altra domanda su un netbook con ram 1gb (al momento... spero di aumentare a 4 se possibile o al peggio a 2gb) consigliereste lubuntu (che uso ma è spartano) o mint (mate, cinnamon, xfce...)?
[18:28] <krabador> sergios, come si chiama il canale in cui stai scrivendo?
[18:31] <sergios> krabador... dalla tua domanda intuisco che su linux mint non c'è assistenza in questo canale :P bene... era la mia terza domanda! GRAZIE LO STESSO (cercherò altrove)
[18:37] <cristian_c> !mint | sergios
[18:37] <ubot-it> sergios: Per supporto a linuxmint: http://www.linuxmind-italia.org/index.php
[19:16] <sergios> grazie cristian_c
[19:45] <aia> sera
[19:45] <aia> come faccio a capire se il processore è a 32 bit o 64?
[19:48] <krabador> aia, terminale --- > getconf LONG_BIT
[19:49] <aia> krabador: grazie
[19:49] <aia> e che differenza c'è tra i 2? 64 è migliore?
[19:51] <Carlin0> il 64 ha il doppio della potenza di calcolo
[19:51] <krabador> wewe, oh, spetta
[19:51] <krabador> non è piu' veloce il doppio
[19:53] <krabador> 64bit non è piu' veloce, è piu' efficiente in contesti di grossa mole di dati
[19:53] <krabador> e supporta piu' di 4gb di ram
[20:28] <sergios> krabador chiedo scura per prima ma a causa della mia immensa ignoranza ho scambiato linux mint per ubuntu mate SORRY! ripropongo quindi la mia domanda: per un netbook con 1gb di ram quale sistema consigliereste tra ubuntu mate e lubuntu? e altra domanda non ho capito se ubuntu mate ha già ricevuto il supporto ufficiale!
[21:52] <yad> ciao a tutti ragazzi ! ho un problema molto grave con la connessione internet. sostanzialmente ha una connessione molto instabile (dura pochi minuti al massimo). nella giornata di oggi , l'instabilità è aumentata ( a stento durava trenta secondi). ritenevo che il problema fosse sulla mia connessione, pero ho notato che tutti gli altri miei dispos
[21:52] <yad> itivi andavano bene (cellulari tablet ecc). oggi tra le altre cose, provando a connettermi su un altra rete wi-fi, non riusciva nemmeno a connettersi
[21:57] <Rebecca92> ho un problema con i driver closed della scheda video. quando l'ho installati al riavvio ho ritrovato caratteri giganti nonostante non avessi modificato nulla e elementi del DE incasinati nelle proporzioni, come se usassero risoluzioni differenti dello schermo...
[22:17] <noel80> salve :)
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2015-04-19-#ubuntu-es
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[07:59] * merrick saluda.
[09:54] <successus> salud o/
[15:01] <successus> salud o/
[19:39] <lasextahd> hola. como puedo ver *actualmente* el canal de tele lasextahd con rtmpdump? Podia hasta marzo pero creo que los de atresmedia han cambiado algo
[20:12] <successus_> salud, hasta otro rato o/
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2015-04-19-#juju
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[20:02] <lazyPower> jose: you were talking about working w/ teh docker charm in the near future - you'll want to track the status of this
[20:02] <lazyPower> https://bugs.launchpad.net/charms/+source/docker/+bug/1445995
[20:02] <mup> Bug #1445995: Docker latest=true displays transient failure <papercut> <docker (Juju Charms Collection):Confirmed for lazypower> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1445995>
[20:02] <lazyPower> looks like the update to 1.6 caused some issues
[22:19] <francokaerntna> hey, how can I change the virtualisation type to from qemu to kvm? the virt_type in nova.conf changes nothing
[22:19] <francokaerntna> cpu has vmx flag set
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2015-04-19-#xubuntu
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[01:15] <ryclik> Anyone ever heard of the hdparm command hanging? It won't respond to SIGTERM or SIGKILL
[01:15] <ryclik> With any options. I most recently tried hdparm -I
[02:28] <likemindead> I'm trying to install Xubuntu on an HP Mini 1000 netbook. I've never done so via USB, always installed from CD/DVD-ROM.
[02:29] <likemindead> I tried both the Startup Disk Creator & UNETbootIN.
[02:29] <likemindead> Using a 4GB jump drive in FAT32.
[02:29] <likemindead> The netbook begins to boot from USB each time, then just goes to a black screen. Nothing.
[02:29] <likemindead> Ideas?
[03:07] <mrkramps> likemindead, tried dd already?
[03:10] <likemindead> Eh?
[03:14] <mrkramps> you can write iso with dd to usb stick
[03:15] <mrkramps> which architecture you have downloaded? 32 or 64?
[03:15] <likemindead> 32
[03:15] <likemindead> The 14.04.02 LTS image.
[03:16] <mrkramps> ok, should be fine then
[04:54] <EvanCarroll> anyone else having a problem with headers?
[04:54] <EvanCarroll> Package linux-headers-3.16.0-33-generic is not available, but is referred to by another package.
[04:54] <EvanCarroll> this is on 15.05
[04:54] <EvanCarroll> this is on 15.04
[04:54] <EvanCarroll> finding the linux headers not in the repo
[07:52] <nashant> Hey, is it possible to increase the effective screen resolution? I want to make everything smaller so I can fit more on the screen
[07:56] <knome> depends on your GPU and monitor
[07:58] <nashant> knome: It's a remote xen VM viewing using ThinLinc
[07:59] <nashant> I can essentially do what I want using vnc but it's really slow
[08:00] <knome> then your connection might be the bottleneck
[08:00] <knome> there is some optimization stuff you can do with vnc (please read the manuals), and that might help some
[08:01] <nashant> knome: I'm testing that today. Wiring through to the bedroom
[08:01] <knome> bumping up the resolution regardless of the way you connect is going to mean a lot more to transfer thus slower
[10:46] <shp> Hello all I have problem with my pc turning itself ON/get out of suspend by itself every morning at 05:55 which is quite disturbing...what can i do to stop this? please help
[10:47] <shp> I have completely uninstalled the alarm clock app i used before and wake up on lan is not on
[10:47] <shp> i disconnect the wifi adapter
[10:48] <shp> any help is appreciated
[10:51] <bekks> Check your BIOS settings, and disable autotmatic power-on.
[10:52] <shp> this never happened before i used that alarm clock app, which i already purged last night
[11:17] <nashant> Hey, how can I add an application to startup from the terminal?
[11:39] <elfy> nashant: you could try writing the .desktop file and dropping it into your .config/autostart
[11:39] <elfy> might do the trick
[13:46] <DReynolds> Hi all. I have a new Xubuntu install. I would like to have it by default boot into console, not GUI until i do startx ... any ideas how i do that?
[13:59] <Guest16742> Buongiorno a tutti :) avrei bisogno di un'informazione riguardante i requisiti minimi per xubuntu
[13:59] <cfhowlett> !it | Guest16742
[14:00] <Guest16742> oh, excuse me! many thanks :)
[15:05] <kj4> hello all!
[15:05] <kj4> what is the date of 15.04 release for xubu?
[15:06] <brainwash> !vivid
[15:08] <kj4> ty brainwash
[15:14] <TimeVirus> I installed ktouch a few days ago and there is no menu entry for it. I can start it from terminal np. What do I need to do to have a menu entry for it?
[15:15] <TimeVirus> timevirus@timevirus-Latitude-D420:~$ locate ktouch.desktop
[15:16] <TimeVirus> /usr/share/app-install/desktop/ktouch:kde4__ktouch.desktop
[15:16] <TimeVirus> sup?
[15:16] <TimeVirus> yo
[15:52] <TimeVirus> I installed ktouch a few days ago and there is no menu entry for it. I can start it from terminal np. What do I need to do to have a menu entry for it? /usr/share/app-install/desktop/ktouch:kde4__ktouch.desktop - I'm running Xfce DE
[15:52] <krytarik> TimeVirus: Don't you have a "/usr/share/applications/kde4/ktouch.desktop" too?
[15:54] <TimeVirus> not sure
[15:55] <TimeVirus> looking
[15:56] <krytarik> TimeVirus: Either way, the thing is, you'd need to symlink/copy that to one level above there.
[15:56] <TimeVirus> mmk
[15:59] <TimeVirus> maybe i just skip it and hope i dont forget i have the program...run it from the term...lol ... dont yet know what you mean by 'one level above'
[15:59] <krytarik> TimeVirus: The "/usr/share/applications" directory.
[16:00] <TimeVirus> symlink isnt completely an unknown though
[16:00] <TimeVirus> ah ok
[16:01] <TimeVirus> i
[16:01] <TimeVirus> I'll try harder thanks for the hints krytarik
[16:39] <TimeVirus> krytarik, when I try to copy/paste that file one level up, as you say, I get a permission denied error/response
[16:39] <krytarik> !sudo | TimeVirus
[16:39] <TimeVirus> lol
[16:39] <TimeVirus> didnt know sudo would work on paste
[16:40] <TimeVirus> right click option
[16:40] <TimeVirus> here goes
[16:40] <krytarik> TimeVirus: I'd do it on the command line anyway.
[16:41] <TimeVirus> I'm in the terminal..sec
[16:45] <TimeVirus> krytarik, *.desktop != .desktop?
[16:47] <TimeVirus> timevirus@timevirus-Latitude-D420:/usr/share/applications$ sudo /usr/share/applications/kde4/ktouch.desktop
[16:47] <TimeVirus> [sudo] password for timevirus:
[16:47] <TimeVirus> sudo: /usr/share/applications/kde4/ktouch.desktop: command not found :: btw
[16:48] <TimeVirus> tried it by sudo right click paste = no go
[16:48] <krytarik> TimeVirus: "sudo ln -s /usr/share/applications/kde4/ktouch.desktop /usr/share/applications/"
[16:49] <TimeVirus> ok ln -s then thanks
[16:49] <krytarik> That's for the symlink, btw.
[16:49] <TimeVirus> rgr
[16:50] <TimeVirus> that got it done thanks again krytarik
[16:50] <krytarik> Cool.
[19:13] <EvanCarroll> anyone on 15.04?
[19:14] <EvanCarroll> there is a pretty large problem in that the kernel headers are not in the repository
[19:15] <elfy> http://paste.ubuntu.com/10852592/
[19:20] <mrkramps> dunno, you may need to activate the source code repositories?
[19:56] <EvanCarroll> mrkramps: they're active.
[19:56] <EvanCarroll> mrkramps: the headers for the new kernel didn't make it up there.
[19:56] <mrkramps> then you should wait for the synch
[19:57] <mrkramps> 15.04 is not stable yet
[20:30] <EvanCarroll> sure.. but someone pushing up a new kernel without headers is a blooper it has nothing (afaik) to do with stability. I've never seen this, and I've been following beta releases for quite some time.
[20:31] <knome> EvanCarroll, anything can happen before a release
[20:31] <EvanCarroll> I can fix this problem. It's not going to kill me. But, it's super annoying and I wanted to be sure the release manager knew of it. I can just recompile the kernel.
[20:32] <knome> EvanCarroll, i'm completely sure the people who are working on this are aware of the situation.
[23:15] <cognitios> Hey, I just did a fresh install of xubuntu and for some reason after downloading adblock on firefox adblock isn't working. I've had this issue before but i can't remember how i fixed it. Does anyone else know how to fix this?
[23:16] <holstein> cognitios: id say, its not particularly tied to xfce or xubuntu.. maybe try #ubuntu or the mozilla support venues, and elaborate.. more information than "it isnt working".. you can see that you have the most up to date FF,and make sure adblock supports your version
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[09:17] <isleofmandan> Info: Isle of Man release party for Ubuntu 15.04 - http://iom.lug.org.uk
[09:17] <brobostigon> morning boys and girls.
[12:00] <awilkins> Anyone know why I can't import python packages I've definitely just installed (via the package manager?)
[12:01] <penguin42> a 2 vs 3 thing?
[12:02] <awilkins> Hmm, maybe, tried both 2 and 3 though
[12:06] <awilkins> Ok... i) the apt package isn't the package I was looking for so it's root namespace is different
[12:06] <awilkins> ii) Once you find that out it works in 2 but not 3
[12:07] <awilkins> I do think the friction between the Python / Ruby and Debian package management is annoying
[12:07] <penguin42> yeh it always happens when you have two different package management systems
[12:12] <directhex_> It's Complicated
[12:12] <directhex_> as is everything i seem to ever comment on
[12:14] <penguin42> well you wouldn't want to comment on anything so simple that it was below you
[12:24] <directhex_> true :p
[12:25] <directhex_> but your summary was reasonable
[16:47] <mappps> yay
[16:47] <mappps> leaving now;D holiday time
[20:14] <foobarry> anyone tried the fitness tracker bands?
[20:14] <foobarry> to monitor sleep and walkies
[20:14] <daftykins> chap i know got given a fitbit a bit ago
[20:15] <daftykins> seems to use a web based stat tracker on the PC
[20:15] <daftykins> so must run a local server
[20:15] <foobarry> the xiaomi one is v cheap and you use an android/apple app
[20:15] <diddledan> I've got an ms band (as of wednesday)
[20:15] <diddledan> doubles as a watch
[20:16] <foobarry> multiple sclerosis?
[20:16] <diddledan> apparently my heart-rate goes down to about 55 when I'm asleep
[20:16] <diddledan> err. no. microsoft
[20:16] <foobarry> oh
[20:16] <foobarry> http://www.amazon.co.uk/Xiaomi-Lightweight-Smart-Bluetooth4-0-Bracelet-Black/dp/B00RMO0T5I
[20:16] <foobarry> these are v cheap
[20:16] <foobarry> i dont think it measures heart rate though
[20:16] <foobarry> just sleep and walking
[20:17] <foobarry> and notification vibrate
[20:18] <popey> foobarry: i have a fitbit
[20:20] <popey> blimety that xiaomi thing is cheap
[20:20] <foobarry> only does 2 things
[20:21] <foobarry> my bro in law has one
[20:21] <popey> the fitbit only does two things
[20:21] <popey> (the one I have)
[20:21] <popey> but mine is an older version, the first band
[20:22] <foobarry> popey: fitbit is a gimmick or useful?
[20:22] <foobarry> maybe i just like the idea of collecting data
[20:23] <popey> its good for setting targets
[20:23] <popey> and can wake you gently
[20:23] <popey> and monitor your sleep pattern
[20:23] <popey> so has valid uses
[20:23] <foobarry> i haz no targets
[20:23] <popey> if any of those are important to you.
[20:23] <popey> 10k steps a day is a good target
[20:23] <foobarry> but is fun for comparing steps vs wife
[20:23] <popey> a good starter anyway
[20:23] <popey> yeah
[20:25] <foobarry> do u stil use it?
[20:31] <popey> no
[20:31] <popey> not often
[20:31] <popey> yet another thing to keep charged
[20:32] <daftykins> i reckon that's their main issue, all this fitness lark
[20:33] <popey> i did use a phone based one on the iphone a while back
[20:33] <popey> "Moves"
[20:33] <popey> which was really rather well done.
[20:34] <popey> counted steps as you'd expect but also provided little maps of where you did the steps
[20:34] <popey> so was dead handy for doing things like looking back over a week and seeing where you ate when you come to do your expenses
[20:34] <daftykins> another average day on the main roads of Guernsey - https://www.dropbox.com/s/5y8ngn723zc8ba3/IMG_20150419_181747.jpg?dl=0
[20:36] <foobarry> the xiaomi one lasts 30 days or so allegedly
[20:36] <foobarry> don't quote me on that tho
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[00:01] <uni67x> suche seit 3 stunden , aber irgendwie formuliere ich die anfrage falsch. denke ich.
[00:02] <uni67x> na ja, morgen dh heute schon ist auch ein tag. und google ist bestimmt nicht pleite, oder?
[00:03] <uni67x> GN8
[08:28] <zerwas> Ich bekomme beim Booten die Meldung "do_boot_cpu failed(-01) to wakeup CPU#01/02/03. Nach dem Booten steht dann nur ein Kern cur Verfügung und das System reagiert langsam.
[08:33] <zerwas> Nach dem vierten Reboot hat sich das Problem gerade von selbst gelöst. Ich frage gar nicht erst nach.
[08:34] <zerwas> Ich hatte das Problem schon mal, da war es auch nach einem Reboot verschwunden.
[11:18] <florian> Hi Leute. Kennst sich hier jemand gut mit Grafikarten unter Linux aus? Ich brauche Hilfe.
[11:19] <florian> Ich habe mir nämlich zuverst die Nvidia GTX 750 gekauft --> tearing und schlechte performance
[11:19] <ppq> hallo. ich nicht, aber im irc kommt man mit metafragen nicht weit, einfach direkt fragen ;)
[11:19] <florian> Dann mit mit der nvidia gt 730 das gleiche
[11:19] <florian> okey danke :D
[11:20] <florian> jetzt bin ich mittlerweile extrem angepisst da nicht mal die Intel HD Grahics funktioniert ohne das es grauenhaft ausschaut
[11:20] <ppq> florian, probier es mal mit dieser option im abschnitt Device deiner xorg.conf: Option "metamodes" "Mode0 +0+0 { ForceFullCompositionPipeline = On }"
[11:21] <florian> Habe ich schon probiert Hilft nichts
[11:21] <ppq> florian, damit habe ich meine nvidia tearing-frei bekommen
[11:21] <bekks> florian: Welches Ubuntu nutzt du denn genau?
[11:21] <aggr0nym> ich will heute mal einen nostalgie linux sonntag machen. weiss zufällig jemand wo ich alte linux distris herbekomme? :D stelle mir sowas wie ubuntu 5.05 vor können auch vpc images sein
[11:21] <florian> Ich habe es sowohl mit Ubuntu Mate als auch mit Ubuntu Gnome versucht (14.04 LTS)
[11:21] <ppq> aggr0nym, old-releases.ubuntu.com
[11:21] <bekks> florian: Welches Ubuntu nutzt du denn genau?
[11:21] <aggr0nym> ty
[11:23] <ppq> florian, was für einen bildschirm hast du und wie ist der angeschlossen?
[11:23] <florian> Ich bin dann auch mit beiden Grafikarten swohol den Treiber von der Nvidia Homepage Versucht als auch den über das "Zusätzliche Treiber" Programm.
[11:23] <florian> Ich habe einen über DVI und den anderen über HDMI angeschlossen.
[11:24] <bekks> florian: Und welches Ubuntu nutzt du _aktuell_? Und welche Grafikkarte _aktuell_?
[11:24] <florian> Das Problem liegt bei beiden vor
[11:24] <ppq> florian, und welche auflösung?
[11:24] <bekks> florian: Das beantwortet meine Fragen nicht.
[11:24] <florian> Gestern hatte ich Ubuntu Mate 14.04 LTS drauf mit der Grafikarte Nvidia GTX 730
[11:24] <bekks> Gestern ist mir auch egal.
[11:24] <florian> beides mal 1080p mit 60 fps
[11:24] <bekks> Was ist AKTUELL?
[11:25] <florian> Heute habe ich die Grafikarte ausgebaut, Fedora 21 drauf installiert, und die Intel Graphics versucht
[11:25] <bekks> Also benutzt Du AKTUELL Fedora 21?
[11:25] <florian> Das ist nur zum testen.
[11:25] <bekks> Das ist EGAL.
[11:25] <bekks> Benutzt du es AKTUELL? JA oder NEIN?
[11:26] <florian> JA
[11:26] <florian> :D
[11:26] <bekks> Gut, dann frag bitte den Fedora-Support. Danke.
[11:26] <ppq> ...
[11:27] <ppq> florian, bei mir hab ich außerdem eine modeline und ein " Option "ExactModeTimingsDVI" "True"" in der Screen sektion
[11:27] <florian> Hier geht es auch nicht um einen Ubuntu spezifische Frage. Es geht darum das ich Tearing Probleme habe und das mit allen Distris.
[11:27] <ppq> mein dell monitor hat per EDID unfug übermittelt
[11:27] <florian> Ich habe zwei Samsung Monitore
[11:27] <bekks> florian: Dann bist du hier trotzde, falsch, weil HIER der Ubuntusupport ist und nicht der distributionsübergreifende Linuxsupport.
[11:27] <florian> (verschiedene Modelle)
[11:28] <bekks> *trotzdem
[11:28] <ppq> florian, welche nvidia-treiber hattest du unter windows denn getestet`
[11:29] <ppq> den 349er mal probiert?
[11:29] <ppq> ääh, unter ubuntu
[11:29] <florian> ppq: Keine.
[11:29] <ppq> jetzt schreib ich schon windows statt ubuntu. wo soll das noch hinführen
[11:30] <oktay> wirst von bill gesteuert Oo
[11:30] <florian> ppq: Die Neusten und die wo mein Modell dabei steht.
[11:30] <florian> Mir geht es eigentlich nicht mal darum das Problem mit der aktuellen Grafikarte zu lösen.
[11:30] <bekks> Sondern?
[11:30] <ppq> florian, das kann alles heißen
[11:31] <florian> Ich habe jetzt bestimmt schon 25 Stunden da rein gesteckt.
[11:31] <bekks> Worum geht es Dir denn?
[11:31] <k-stz> florian: bemerkst du das tearing beim scrollen? wie testest du es
[11:31] <florian> Ich möchte einen Möglichkeit finden Hardware zu kaufen die Plug and Play mäßig funktioniert.
[11:32] <florian> k-stz. Beim bewegen von Fenstern. Schauen von Youtube videos ...
[11:32] <bekks> Was ist denn "plug and play mäßig"
[11:32] <bekks> Und was hat das alles mit Ubuntu zu tun?
[11:32] <florian> kaufen --> PC aufschrauben --> einbauen --> Treiber installiert .
[11:32] <ppq> florian, aktivier unter 14.04 mal den LTS enablement stack http://wiki.ubuntuusers.de/LTS_Enablement_Stacks und installier den neusten nvidia-treiber 349 aus dem xorg-edgers ppa: sudo add-apt-repository ppa:xorg-edgers/ppa
[11:33] <bekks> florian: Der Einbau installiert keine Treiber. Bei keiner Hardware.
[11:33] <bekks> ppq: Er hat Fedora, nicht Ubuntu. :)
[11:33] <oktay> florian #fedora-de
[11:33] <k-stz> florian: hast du neustes adobe-plugin? sudo apt-get install adobe-flash-plugin (iirc)
[11:34] <bekks> k-stz: Er hat keine Probleme mit Flash, er hat Probleme mit Nvidia unter Fedora.
[11:34] <florian> k-stz: Adobe war installiert. Das kommt mit dem Paket ubuntu-restricted-extras mit was ich standardmäßig installier
[11:36] <florian> Ich frage mal ganz anders. Wenn ich einen PC will der mit Ubuntu 14.04 problemlos funktioniert (zwei Monitore, 1080p 60fps, Raid5 mit 3 SSDs, flüsterleise) was muss ich dann tun?
[11:36] <bekks> Die Ubuntu HCL anschauen Dir einen Rechner zusammenbauen.
[11:36] <florian> Ich bin mittlerweile überfragt wie ich Hardware kaufen soll für Ubuntu
[11:37] <ppq> florian, probier mal was ich erwähnte.
[11:38] <florian> Ich habe ja schon die neusten Treiber direkt von NVIDIA installiert über das *.run Script. Somit hatte ich schon die neusten Treiber auf meinen Rechner.
[11:38] <ppq> ich meinte besonders auch den neueren kernel
[11:38] <ppq> und xorg
[11:38] <bekks> Und somit hast du das Problem, dass dir dieser Treiber bei JEDEM Kernelupdate um die Ohren fliegt.
[11:38] <bekks> florian: http://www.ubuntu.com/certification/ und http://wiki.ubuntuusers.de/Grafikkarten/Nvidia lesen :)
[11:38] <bekks> Und tun, was ppq Dir vorschlägt, was Du aber offensichtlich ignorierst.
[11:41] <k-stz> florian: yep, ich hab auch über nvidias+skript installiert, und ich habe kein tearing. Aber: ich habe alle compiz effekte abgeschalten
[11:42] <florian> k-stz: Ich empfinde das nicht als Lösung wenn man Compiz abschalten muss um kein Tearing zu bekommen.
[11:42] <k-stz> und steam spiele: borderlands 2, z.b. laufen wie auf windows
[11:43] <k-stz> florian: ich weiß nicht ob es am compiz liegt, ich habe es nur abgeschalten wegen den wackelingen effekten etc.
[11:44] <florian> Meine Nvidia Grafikarte wird übrigends von Nvidia officel unterstütz.
[11:45] <k-stz> florian: google sagt das ist ein prominentes problem unter ubuntu 14.04 z.b: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2235382
[11:45] <florian> Auf der Website von Ubuntu findet man aber nichts von Nvidia, oder?
[11:46] <florian> k-stz: Ich habe bereits alles von diesem Artikel druchprobiert, aber danke
[11:46] <k-stz> (da ist ne lösung drauf) achtung beim ansprechen von mehreren monitoren, denk dran backup xorg.confs zu machen
[11:46] <k-stz> oh, ok
[11:47] <florian> Sorry Leute. Ich glaube man merkts. Ich bin derbe angepisst. Aber Linux (oder eher Ubuntu) ist nicht daran schuld sondern Nvidia bzw. Intel
[11:47] <bekks> Ja, und da du nicht mal Ubuntu nutzt, hat das HIER auch WIRKLICH NICHTS zu suchen.
[11:48] <bekks> Ich hab mir das jetzt lange genug angeguckt.
[11:48] <florian> sorry bekks. Ich weis ich habe gerade im augenblick nicht Ubuntu auf dem PC.
[11:48] <bekks> Richtig. Also hat das HIER nichts zu suchen.
[11:48] <bekks> Habe ich Dir jetzt oft genug gesagt.
[11:49] <florian> bekks: ich will auch nicht das Problem unter Feodra lösen. Den im Augenblick steckt da garnichtmal die Nvidia Grafikarte drin
[11:49] <bekks> Wundervoll.
[11:49] <bekks> Diese Diskussion ist hier und jetzt beendet.
[11:49] <florian> Ich sitze auch im Augenblick nicht vor diesem PC sondern vor einem Laptop mit Ubuntu Gnome
[11:50] <bekks> Du kannst das ja gerne im Offtopickanal weiterführen, aber es hat nichts mit Ubuntusupport zu tun.
[11:53] <florian> Naja. Danke ppq, k-stz und bekks für eure Hilfe.
[11:53] <florian> sorry bekks das ich diesen Kanal "missbraucht" habe
[11:54] <florian> tschau
[11:54] <k-stz> florian: viel erfolg
[12:45] <sirusdev> guten tag
[13:45] <greenfinger> Hallo
[13:52] <k-stz> greenfinger: hallo
[13:52] <greenfinger> Kann mir jemand sagen warum sich Elster bei mir nicht mehr öffnet? Seit dem Update auf 14.04 funktioniert es nicht mehr
[13:55] <jokrebel> elster?
[13:56] <jokrebel> greenfinger: Das Steuerdingens? ElsterOnline? Oder ElsterFormular? Was passiert wenn Du es aus dem Terminal heraus zu starten versuchst?
[14:01] <jokrebel> greenfinger: Na dann geb ich Dir mal ein paar Links und beschäftige mich wieder mit eigenen Problemen. https://appdb.winehq.org/objectManager.php?sClass=version&iId=31548 https://www.elster.de/anwenderforum/showthread.php?40429-ElsterFormular-unter-Ubuntu-(Linux)-installieren http://wiki.ubuntuusers.de/ElsterOnline http://wiki.ubuntuusers.de/ElsterFormular
[16:27] <peter1965> Hi @ all
[16:27] <jokrebel> nabend
[16:27] <peter1965> nabend, ich hoffe das mir hier jemand helfen kann
[16:28] <jokrebel> ohne Frage kaum <g>
[16:30] <peter1965> hab vor paar wochen linux Mint installiert, bin / war auch sehr zufrieden damit... ;-) nur es hatte mich immer im wlan rausgeworfen. jetzt hab ich seit heute ubuntu respontory installiert und jetzt ne mischung aus ubuntu und linux mit mit mate... wie bekomme ich den aktuellen mate?
[16:31] <ppq> peter1965, installier lieber ein sauberes ubuntu mate neu
[16:31] <jokrebel> peter1965: Wrong Channel
[16:31] <ppq> so mix-systeme gehen ziemlich schnell kaputt
[16:32] <ppq> (von ganz allein ;)
[16:32] <ring0> peter1965, guck mal hier: http://wiki.ubuntuusers.de/MATE
[16:32] <peter1965> danke ppq, dafür bräuchte ich erstmal n rohling :D
[16:32] <jokrebel> peter1965: Und ppq muss ich leider recht geben.
[16:32] <jokrebel> peter1965: Geht auch mit USB-Stick
[16:33] <peter1965> wann kommt ubuntu 15.10 raus?
[16:33] <ring0> 10 wie oktober
[16:33] <ppq> peter1965, das geht auch vom stick
[16:33] <peter1965> okay, n stick hab ich hier...
[16:34] <jokrebel> peter1965: Und kommende Versionen werden in #ubuntu-de+1 bequatscht
[16:34] <ring0> peter1965, dann hol dir die ubuntu mate iso. verlinkt auf der wiki-seite von eben und pack das auf den stick
[16:35] <ambossarm> moin. Hat hier jemand Erfahrung mit dem neuen Elsterformular und Wine? Das alte ging Problemlos, nur haben sie jetzt wohl den Support für winXP gedroppt und Wollen VC++ 2013 und das tut bei mir in Wine nicht
[16:36] <jokrebel> ambossarm: Kann das sein dass Du da heut schonmal als greenfinger gefragt hast?
[16:37] <ring0> peter1965, für die erstellung des usb-sticks mit der ubuntu iso, sollte das hier helfen: http://wiki.ubuntuusers.de/Live-USB
[16:37] <ambossarm> lol, nein. Kannste mir die Anwort schicken, die greenfinger bekam, falls sie inhaltlich taugt
[16:37] <jokrebel> ...und dann auf gegenfragen nicht genatwortet.
[16:37] <jokrebel> hehe
[16:37] <jokrebel> greenfinger: Na dann geb ich Dir mal ein paar Links und beschäftige mich wieder mit eigenen Problemen. https://appdb.winehq.org/objectManager.php?sClass=version&iId=31548 https://www.elster.de/anwenderforum/showthread.php?40429-ElsterFormular-unter-Ubuntu-(Linux)-installieren http://wiki.ubuntuusers.de/ElsterOnline http://wiki.ubuntuusers.de/ElsterFormular
[16:37] <ambossarm> jokrebel: Ist halt bis 31.05 muss die Steuererklärung gemacht sein und es tut halt nicht. Darum glaub ich, dass da bald mehr kommen werden... im Wiki steht nix
[16:38] <jokrebel> ambossarm: Der hatte wohl auch irgendwelche Elster-Probleme seit nem Update
[16:39] <ambossarm> huch im wikie steht ja doch was. Muss neu sein. Ja das update will VC++ 2013 installieren und schlägt fehl
[16:41] * jokrebel hat da keine eigenen Erfahrungen weil er sich schon seit Jahren um Steuererklärungen rumdrücken kann.
[16:41] <peter1965> okay, hab mir das gerad durchgelesen, dann warte ich die paar tage noch ;-)
[16:41] <ring0> peter1965, welche paar tage?
[16:42] <jokrebel> ring0: Vielleicht bis gleich 15.04 kommt?
[16:42] <ring0> jokrebel, wer weiß :)
[16:50] <nagetier> das kann man auch jetzt schon gut verwenden
[16:54] <jokrebel> nagetier: Psschhht - NOCH ist es nicht soweit <g>
[16:54] <nagetier> na gut *flüster*
[16:55] <jokrebel> wann ist eigentlich der offizielle Termin?
[16:57] <ambossarm> 23. glaub ich
[16:59] <nagetier> so steht's geschrieben - http://wiki.ubuntuusers.de/Vivid_Vervet
[17:11] <ambossarm> Okay, mit dem Winetricks script, dass ich jetzt aus dem Wiki fürs Formular hab, konnte ich vcrun2013 installieren. Er meckert zwar, dass er vc++2013 nicht verifizieren kann, aber es funktioniert. Danke
[17:11] <ambossarm> Das Winetricks, dass ubuntu mitliefert hat leider kein vc++2013
[17:20] <jokrebel> wieso ist in Mate eigentlich so gleich mal gar keine Auswahl an Panel-Erweiterungen? Nicht mal ein Systemmonitor gibt es da.
[18:01] <sonotos> jokrebel: hm eventuell fehlt dir da das passende paket ich hab den systemmonitor unter mate
[18:02] <sonotos> da waren so ziemlich alle von gnome2 mit dabei wenn ich das richtig in erinnerung hab
[18:05] <jokrebel> sonotos: Hm. Mal suchen. Danke
[18:06] <sonotos> mate-applets müsste das sein
[18:07] <sonotos> wenns da nicht dabei ist könnte es
[18:07] <sonotos> mate-sensors-applet
[18:07] <sonotos> Display readings from hardware sensors in your MATE panel
[18:07] <sonotos> sein
[18:09] <jokrebel> sonotos: Hört sich gut an. Nochmals danke
[18:11] <sonotos> gern
[18:13] <jokrebel> sonotos: Sehr schön, hat geklappt. ...ooO( warum nur bin ich da nicht selber drauf gekommen? )
[18:15] <Rochvellon> manchmal sieht man den wald vor lauter bäumen nicht
[18:19] * nagetier *abhelf*
[18:24] <sonotos> jokrebel: kenn ich
[18:39] <ub_umstieg> Guten abend eine frage wo kann ich in 14.04 unity die standards für deiendungen setzen mp4 mit vlc Z.B
[18:40] <k-stz> ub_umstieg: müsste im nautilus rechtsklick auf die datei->eigenschaften->öffnen
[18:40] <k-stz> *öffnen mit reiter
[18:42] <ub_umstieg> Danke
[18:43] <k-stz> gern geschehen
[18:43] <ub_umstieg> das icon ändert sich scheinbar nicht °! aber es funktioniert jetzt auch bei anderen mp4 files
[19:40] <Guest47012> Hallo? Is da wer?
[19:41] <mrkramps> !frag > Guest47012
[19:42] <mrkramps> Guest47012, einfach deine frage stellen! wenn jemand was weiß, wird man sich melden
[19:42] <Guest47012> Bin das erste mal in einem Chat. Gibt es eine Anleitung für blutige Anfänger irgendwo im Netz?
[19:43] <mrkramps> http://wiki.ubuntuusers.de/IRC
[19:44] <mrkramps> das mit dem "einfach fragen" hat aber nichts damit zu tun
[19:44] <Guest47012> Ähmm ... da komm ich her, da stehen aber nur sehr kurz die Befehle. Ich aber weiß gar nix. Ist das hier freenode?
[19:44] <mrkramps> das hier ist freenode
[19:45] <nagetier> Guest47012, Hallo, eine Anleitung wozu?
[19:46] <Guest47012> Einfach ne Kurzeinführung. Wie man sich hier verhält, die 4 wichtigsten Befehle, was irc ist, was freenode ist, welche Chatrooms es gibt. Irgendetwas in der Richtung.
[19:47] <nagetier> Ah, ok.. dachte zu Ubuntu.
[19:48] <ambossarm> Es gibt hier nen topic, da stehen Regeln drin
[19:48] <mrkramps> Guest47012, wenn du von der wiki-seite hier her kommst, dann solltest du mal unten in die links schauen
[19:48] <nagetier> Guest47012, Dann denke ich ist die Seite von freenode genau richtig - https://freenode.net/
[19:48] <mrkramps> insbesondere die externen links
[19:50] <nagetier> Guest47012, Und herzlich Willkommen. Du bist auch gerne eingeladen nach #ubuntu-de-offtopic zu kommen. Dort werden Themen abseits von Ubuntu gerne besprochen.
[19:51] <k-stz> mit dem befehl: "/join #ubuntu-de-offtopic" im chat
[19:52] <Guest47012> Danke, aber lieber noch nicht channel wechseln, sonst komme ich nicht mehr zurück ;-)
[19:52] <k-stz> :)
[19:52] <nagetier> :)
[19:53] <Guest47012> Frage zu Ubuntu: Ich habe ufw angeschalten. Wie kann es sein, dass der Server vom IRC durch die Firewall durchkommt? Eigentlich dürfte ich doch nur raussenden können.
[19:54] <mrkramps> Guest47012, solange du keine regeln definiert hast, tut ufw genau gar nichtst
[19:54] <nagetier> http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Firewall#Stateful_Inspection_2
[19:54] <Guest47012> WIE BITTE??????
[19:55] <Guest47012> Ich surfe die ganze Zeit ohne Firewall?
[19:55] <mrkramps> http://wiki.ubuntuusers.de/ufw
[19:55] <mrkramps> lesen!
[19:56] <mrkramps> ebenso wie http://wiki.ubuntuusers.de/Sicherheits_1x1 und http://wiki.ubuntuusers.de/Personal_Firewalls
[19:57] <nagetier> Guest47012, du verwendest keinen Router mit aktivierter Firewall?
[19:58] <Guest47012> Nein, ich hab nur ein Modem
[19:59] <bekks> Wie baust Du denn dann die Verbinfung auf? Hast du im NetworkManager unter Ubuntu deine Zugangsdaten eingegeben?
[19:59] <k1l> Guest47012: du hast eine ganz verkehrte vorstellung von firewall und von netzwerk und von sicherheit
[20:00] <Guest47012> zu vorsichtig oder zu unvorsichtig?
[20:01] <Guest47012> Ups - ich wollte fragen: Bin ich zu vorsichtig oder zu unvorsichtig?
[20:02] <k1l> internet ist keine einbahnstrasse. wenn du nur daten rauslassen würdest (also datenpakete) dann hast du nichts vom internet. dann ist das wie ein telefon, wo ein hörer kaputt ist.
[20:03] <Guest47012> Ja, aber die Firewall erkennt ja, dass sie established sind. Aber IRC ist doch angeblich ein Server.
[20:04] <k1l> du verbindest dich mit dem internet fast ausschliesslich mit servern. wo ist denn jetzt das problem?
[20:05] <Guest47012> ich dachte, die Firewall fkt nicht. Hab jetzt noch mal sudo ufw default deny eingegeben. Aber es geht immer noch. Offenbar kann man IRC auch betreiben, wenn man alle eingehenden Vbdgen ablehnt.
[20:05] <bekks> Bestehende Verbindungen werden nicht unterbrochen.
[20:05] <nagetier> Guest47012, Wichtig ist, dass dein eigenes System keine Dienste auf die öffentliche Adresse anbietet. Tut es das, kann man diese mit einer Firewall reglementieren.
[20:10] <Guest47012> netstat -tulpen liefert ca. 6 Einträge mit Listen nach 127.0.1.1 von 0.0.0.0:* Das heißt, dass da schon einige Dienste sind, die offenbar lauschen
[20:11] <k1l> ja was denn?
[20:11] <bekks> Auf localhost ist das völlig schnuppe.
[20:11] <Guest47012> Ok und auf 0.0.0.0:445, ist das dann auch egal?
[20:12] <bekks> Wir müssen raten, was da horcht?
[20:12] <k1l> 445 ist samba oder?
[20:12] <Guest47012> Nein, natürlich nicht, das ist 805/smbd
[20:13] <Guest47012> Volltreffer k1l
[20:13] <bekks> Dann schalte Samba halt ab, wenn du nicht willst dass es läuft.
[20:13] <Guest47012> Was ist denn dieses 0.0.0.0 als Local Adresse. Offenbar kann man sich dahin von außen verbinden?
[20:13] <mrkramps> 445 ist samba … Microsoft-DS SMB file sharing/ Microsoft-DS Active Directory, Windows shares
[20:14] <Guest47012> Igitt Microsoft. Das wird ja immer schlimmer.
[20:14] <bekks> http://wiki.ubuntuusers.de/Samba_Server - das ist Samba.
[20:15] <mrkramps> muss man jetzt echt noch erläutern was samba und microsoft so gemeinsam haben!?
[20:16] <Guest47012> Das s? Auch wenn der Spruch nicht gerade neu ist, aber ich habe das nicht installiert. Das hat sich selber installiert.
[20:16] <bekks> MAcht doch nichts. Schalt es ab wenn du es nicht brauchst.
[20:17] <k1l> Guest47012: das was du da machst klingt nach hexenjagd.
[20:17] <Guest47012> Das ist also nicht standardmäßig bei 14.04 xubuntu dabei?
[20:17] <bekks> Wer sagte das?
[20:17] <k1l> ohne ahnung einfach mal wilder aktionismus.
[20:17] <Rochvellon> ubuntu installiert standardmäßig samba
[20:17] <k1l> Guest47012: was ist jetzt genau dein problem? was möchtest du ändern? was klappt nicht?
[20:18] <k1l> weil das was ich bisher gelesen habe klingt für mich nach: "da hat einer keine ahung und fummelt am netzwerk rum weil er meint er würde es so sicherer machen"
[20:19] <Guest47012> Als erstes würde mich interessieren, ob meine Firewall funktioniert, denn wenn ich versehentlich mal einen Server/Dienst installiere, dann soll der nicht gleich von außen erreichbar sein
[20:20] <Guest47012> Wie kann ich denn ufw fragen, ob es auch wirklich mit den korrekten Regeln läuft. Aktiv ist es. Aber wie kann ich fragen, ob es alle Vbdgen auch wirklich ablehnt?
[20:20] <bekks> sudo "sudo ufw status"
[20:20] <bekks> Und das Wort das du suchst heisst "Verbindungen".
[20:21] <bekks> Willst du es genauer wissen: sudo ufw status verbose
[20:21] <bekks> Steht aber auch in dem bereits genannten Artikel.
[20:23] <Guest47012> Negativ, das mit dem verbose ist ein sehr wichtiger Tipp
[20:24] <bekks> So, damit ist das Problem ja gelöst. Was ist denn nun das eigentliche Problem dahinter? :)
[20:24] <Guest47012> Ich bekomme jetzt etwas mehr Infos z.B. Voreinstellung: deny (eingehend), allow (abgehend), disabled (gesendet)
[20:24] <Guest47012> Wenn ich versehentlich nen apache installiere (wie anfangs geschehen), dann will ich nicht, dass jemand sich übers Modem von außen in mich reinhackt
[20:25] <bekks> Du hast eine völlig falsche Vorstellung von einem Netzwerk.
[20:25] <bekks> Wie genau hast du Dich verbunden - hast du im NetworkManager die Zugangsdaten für deinen Internetzugang eingegeben, oder nur deine WLAN Zugangsdaten, oder oder oder?
[20:26] <Guest47012> Nein, normales Modem, USB-Modem, einfach Sim-Karte rein und nunmehr über ppp0
[20:27] <bekks> Also ein UMTS Stick.
[20:27] <Guest47012> Korrekt
[20:27] <bekks> Also kein Modem, sondern ein UMTS Stick :)
[20:27] <Guest47012> Shit
[20:27] <bekks> Da ufw läuft - was ist das Problem?
[20:28] <Guest47012> Oben hat jemand behauptet, man müsste noch Regeln in ufw eingeben. Das habe ich natürlich nicht gemacht, weil ich dachte, dass ufw standarmäßig immer auf default deny steht. Stimmt offenbar nicht. Jetzt frage ich mich, wie ich feststelle, wie der default ist
[20:29] <bekks> Dann schau Dir die vorhandenen Regeln an?
[20:29] <bekks> Und was genau stimmt an der Aussage nicht dass ufs per default incoming deny macht?
[20:29] <bekks> *ufw
[20:31] <nagetier> Guest47012, zeige doch mal den output
[20:31] <nagetier> !paste > Guest47012
[20:31] <nagetier> grml
[20:31] <nagetier> Guest47012, bitte wenn dann hierher - http://paste.ubuntu.com/
[20:32] <uniX67> mrkramps, Thema: sony vaio fn keys. Folgendes ausprobiert: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2225858 mit 1.) 20-intel.conf in /usr/share/X11/xorg.conf.d && 2.) video.use_native_backlight=1
[20:32] <Guest47012> Wie zeige ich die Regeln an? Über iptables?
[20:33] <nagetier> Guest47012, hattest ihr das nicht gerade? Kenne mich mit der UFW nicht aus.
[20:33] <uniX67> mrkramps, in beiden Fällen: blackscreen wenn FN=0=min.
[20:34] <mrkramps> uniX67, "blackscreen" heißt was genau?
[20:35] <nagetier> Guest47012, wie ich innerhalb von 20 Sekunden lesen konnte, sollte ein 'sudo ufw default deny' das erreichen, was du suchst.
[20:36] <bekks> nagetier: Das ist standard und wurde bereits schonmal abgesetzt.
[20:36] <nagetier> oki
[20:36] <bekks> Ich warte ja immer noch auf die eigentliche Problembeschreibung :)
[20:37] <nagetier> DANN frage ich mich das auch ;)
[20:38] <Guest47012> Problem ist, wie stelle ich fest, wie meine Firewall eingestellt ist. Wenn ich default deny mache, dann heißt das ja nur, dass der Standard auf verbieten (ist ja schon mal gut), aber ich vermisse ein wenig die Übersichtsdarstellung ALLER Regeln wie normal üblich bei Firewalls
[20:38] <uniX67> mrkramps, wenn ich auf der brightness MIN stuffe bin, sprich mehr als 10 s. dann wird unmöglich, den screen wieder zu beleben, dh. die hintergrundbeleuchtung schaltet sich aus
[20:39] <nagetier> Guest47012, 'sudo ufw status verbose' gint das nicht aus?
[20:39] <uniX67> mrkramps, wenn ich mit lichtquelle display beleuchte, dann sehe ich alles, versetze ich den laptop in die bereitschaft und
[20:39] <Guest47012> Dann bekomme ich das: Voreinstellung: deny (eingehend), allow (abgehend), disabled (gesendet)
[20:40] <naized> Moin, kann mir irgendwer von euch verraten, wie ich dafuer sorgen kann dass ich coredumps bekomme? ich habe ein binary was mit "illegal instruction" aussteigt, aber trotz "ulimit -c unlimited" bekomme ich keine coredups geschrieben
[20:40] <uniX67> mrkramps, dann wacht er auf, solange ich irgendeine taste berühre
[20:41] <uniX67> mrkramps, sprich hintergrundbeleuchtung wird aktiviert
[20:41] <Guest47012> Was heißt diese Zeile? vor allem, was heißt disabled (gesendet), macht keinen Sinn
[20:41] <nagetier> Guest47012, gibt 'man ufw' Informationen aus?
[20:42] <Guest47012> Ja, ne ganze Menge
[20:44] <nagetier> Dann hast du ja eine Menge zu lesen :)
[20:44] <mrkramps> uniX67, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/1381625
[20:45] <mrkramps> fehler bekannt, kein fix vorhanden
[20:48] <Guest47012> Wie? Ich habt alle keine Firewall, zumindest keine bei der ihr die Regeln einfach mal schnell abfragen könnt? Was macht ihr dann, wenn ihr mal öffentliches WLAN benützt?
[20:49] <k1l> keinen apache starten
[20:49] <k1l> du hast wohl ein grundproblem nicht verstanden: ports sind immer offen, aber wenn an dem port kein program lauscht, ist das eh latte.
[20:50] <Guest47012> Und wenn jetzt ... sagen wir mal ein samba lauscht? Darf ich davon ausgehen, dass die Grundeinstellung von ubuntu immer so ist, dass sich von draußen nix reinverbindet?
[20:50] <bekks> In einem öffentlichen WLAN betreibe ich keinen Samba.
[20:51] <Guest47012> Samba ist in der Grundkonfiguration des ubuntu offenbar dabei. Schaltest Du das dann alles gleich nach der Installation ab?
[20:51] <k1l> nein. die grundeinstellung ist auf verbindungsfreundlichkeit ausgelegt.
[20:52] <nagetier> Guest47012, es lauscht doch aber so nicht auf der öffentlichen Adresse.
[20:53] <nagetier> Änderst du das, sollte man sich auch um weitere Schritte Gedanken machen.
[20:53] <bekks> Guest47012: Ich schalte alle Dienste ab, die ich nicht benötige. Das ist sinnvoller als mich mit einer Firewall herumzuschlagen.
[20:53] <Guest47012> Was ist eine öffentliche und was ist eine private Adresse und wie kann ich das sicher unterscheiden?
[20:56] <nagetier> Guest47012, aufgrund des Adressbereiches.. das ist jetzt aber zu weit vom Ubuntu-Support entfernt
[20:56] <bekks> http://wiki.ubuntuusers.de/Offene_Ports - das liegt noch im Ubuntusupport :)
[20:57] <nagetier> War auch nur eine faule Ausrede meinerseits.. runter beten kann ich das auch nicht ohne nachzulesen ;)
[20:59] <Guest47012> Ich habe als Local Host typischer Weise folgende Einträge a) 0 0.0.0.0:5353 b) 127.0.0.1:631 c) :::445. Was davon wäre öffentlich?
[20:59] <bekks> Wenn du immer nur die Hälfte postest, kann Dir das niemand sagen :)
[20:59] <bekks> Welcher Befehl liefert welche Ausgabe?
[21:04] <Guest47012> Die Listen-Seite ist immer gleich. Das ist immer 0.0.0.0:*. Also von irgendwo kann jemand herkommen. Der geht dann entweder auf meinen loopback-Adresse (da wurde mir gesagt, dass das egal ist) oder z.B. auf :::445. Und das müsste dann doch prinzipiell gefährlich sein von den Vbdgs-Endpunkten aus gesehen. Ist das soweit richtig?
[21:05] <bekks> Keine Ahnung.
[21:05] <bekks> Ich habe noch keinen konkreten Befehl und dessen vollständige Ausgabe gesehen.
[21:05] <nagetier> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/0.0.0.0 , http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Localhost
[21:06] <Guest47012> Geil! Genau das habe ich gesucht.
[21:06] <nagetier> Du willst lokal den Port 445 erreichen, also muss der auch gesetzt sein.
[21:07] <nagetier> Oder es ist einfach nicht nötig samba auf dem System zu haben, dann kommt das runter, und der Port 445 ist lokal geschlossen.
[21:07] <bekks> Oder man deaktiviert samba einfach.
[21:08] <nagetier> Oder das.
[21:10] <Guest47012> Werd ich sowieso machen, (muss ich aber noch nachlesen wie das nun wieder geht) aber ich habe 6 mit Status listen. Deswegen frage ich. Besonders stört mich dnsmasq. Lokalse Adress ist 127.0.1.1:53 und horcht auf 0.0.0.0:*
[21:10] <uniX67> mrkramps, wenn ich den bug-bericht richtig interpretiere, dann ist der bug noch offen, isn´t it? nicht endgültig erledigt.
[21:11] <mrkramps> uniX67, wie gesagt, fehler bekannt, kein fix vorhanden
[21:11] <Guest47012> Ich hab das alles nicht installiert, weiß nicht, was das soll
[21:11] <uniX67> mrkramps, schad.
[21:12] <nagetier> Guest47012, weil du zu dnsmasq noch nichts gelesen hast, richtig?
[21:12] <Guest47012> Wie gelesen? Das ist ein Zusammenbindungs-Protokoll (du weißt, dass ich normaler User bin?)
[21:12] <nagetier> oder hattest du dir Port 80 schon erfolgreich gesperrt? :)
[21:15] <nagetier> Guest47012, http://wiki.ubuntuusers.de/Dnsmasq - "Es werden die Namen aus dem lokalen Netz entsprechend der Datei /etc/hosts aufgelöst. Unbekannte Namensanfragen werden weitergeleitet und im Cache gespeichert." .. damit wäre schon grob geklärt was es macht.
[21:15] <nagetier> Da greift nichts von außen zu.
[21:16] <nagetier> Also schon, aber nur aus dem lokalen Netzwerk.
[21:16] <bekks> Guest47012: Welches Ubuntu sagtest Du, hast Du?
[21:16] <Guest47012> 14.04 xubuntu (hoffe ich)
[21:16] <Guest47012> Also um genau zu sein stand Ubuntus Studio xubuntu 14.04 drauf
[21:16] <k1l> Guest47012: "lsb_release -d"
[21:17] <Guest47012> Das ist die Ausgabe: Description: Ubuntu 14.04.2 LTS
[21:19] <Guest47012> Könnte das mit dem UMTS-Modem zusammenhängen?
[21:19] <bekks> Was? :)
[21:19] <nagetier> Und, nein, auch aus dem lokalen Netzwerk greift da nichts direkt zu :)
[21:20] <Guest47012> Mein UMTS-Modem ist gar kein Modem?
[21:20] * bekks ist raus aus der Nummer.
[21:21] <nagetier> Guest47012, Was könnte damit zusammenhängen?
[21:23] <apollo13> is ein UTMS model was kein modem ist nicht nen widersprich in sich selbst?
[21:26] <Guest47012> Keine Ahnung. Ich hab kein Netz. Ich hab nur ein Modem. Keine Ahnung
[21:27] <nagetier> Alles gut, das ist ein Modem.. bitte weitermachen
[21:28] <apollo13> nagetier: :D
[21:31] <Guest47012> Sagst Du es mir heute noch? Weil, für mich macht das keinen Sinn.
[21:31] <Guest47012> Da komme ich auch nicht drauf
[21:31] <k1l> Guest47012: was ist denn die frage?
[21:32] <Guest47012> Kann ich das dnsmasq abschalten, oder macht das Probleme (bzw. was ist das überhaupt?)
[21:33] <nagetier> Guest47012, lass es bitte an.
[21:33] <apollo13> die frage ist eher warum du das überhaupt am rennen hast?!
[21:34] <Guest47012> ich habs nicht installiert
[21:34] <nagetier> apollo13, ist default, gehört in das System.
[21:34] <Guest47012> Und warum?
[21:34] <apollo13> nagetier: wow, seit wann das?
[21:35] <nagetier> Guest47012, weil es DNS-Anfragen weiterleitet und Ergebnisse zwischenspeichert.
[21:35] <nagetier> apollo13, kA, IMHO schon etwas länger
[21:35] <apollo13> das erklärt natürlich warum in der firma auf den neuen systemen nix mehr lief und warum dnsmasq deinstallieren die lösung war -- und ich hab schon die leute selber verdächtigt^^
[21:36] <nagetier> Ohne, würden AFAIR Anfragen immer wieder erneut gesendet werden.
[21:36] <k1l> networkmanager? vpn clients? irgendwas wird das wohl mitgezogen haben
[21:37] <k1l> hier ist er jedenfalls nicht installiert beim ubuntu
[21:37] <apollo13> nagetier: so schlimm ists auch nicht, meiste software cacht so oder so
[21:37] <nagetier> Joa, ist wohl um es von den Anwenden abzutrennen und die Funktion dem System zu übergeben.
[21:37] <apollo13> und sonst cacht halt der router oder was weiß ich, aber auf nem client pc ist das im normalfall ziemlich doof
[21:37] <nagetier> *Anwendungen
[21:38] <nagetier> Ja, aber nicht jeder hat einen Router.
[21:38] <apollo13> ja, nur macht das system das leider falsch im gegensatz zu anwendungen :þ
[21:38] <k1l> ach warte. dnsmasq-base ist installiert. scheint wohl von network-manager zu kommen
[21:38] <apollo13> dnsmasq-base ist aber noch nicht der server oder?
[21:38] <nagetier> apollo13, mag sein, ich nutze das auch nicht
[21:38] <k1l> apollo13: jo
[21:39] <mrkramps> jau, ist vom network-manager
[21:39] <nagetier> Guest47012, aber nur, weil hier ein Router läuft der die selbe Funktion kontrolliert.
[21:40] <k1l> "Note that the package "dnsmasq" interferes with Network Manager which can use "dnsmasq-base" to provide DHCP services when sharing an internet connection. "
[21:40] <Guest47012> Also weil ich keinen Router habe, cacht mein dnsmasq irgendetwas? Deswegen ist es da. So in etwa?
[21:40] <k1l> also kommts vom networkmanager für den umts tether
[21:41] <apollo13> oder normales wlan sharing
[21:41] <nagetier> Guest47012, noch ein Honweis.. Ubuntu ist ein ziemlich komplett geschnürte Distribution, dem Benutzer wird ein vollständiges System geboten. Es gint auch Distributionen, wo solche Pakete alle nachinstalliert werden müssten..
[21:41] <k1l> Guest47012: "dpkg -l | grep dnsmasq" in ein pastebin bitte
[21:42] <nagetier> boa, was ein Satz^^
[21:42] <k1l> naja, er kann ja auch einfach eine minimal install machen wenn er hexenjagd machen will. dann kann er genau gucken was er installiert und was nicht.
[21:42] <nagetier> stimmt
[21:43] <nagetier> IMHO will man bei seinem Setup dnsmasq..
[21:44] <k1l> nein
[21:44] <k1l> er will einfach, dass der networkmanager das alles regelt (mit dem dnsmasq-base eben)
[21:44] <nagetier> aber das macht doch dann auch dnsmasq?
[21:45] <Guest47012> Ist mit pastebin ein /pastebin gemeint?
[21:45] <k1l> sein problem ist gerade nur, dass er da blind schuldige sucht ohne zu wissen was er sich eigentlich anguckt
[21:46] <k1l> Guest47012: damit wir nicht immer nur raten müssen sollst du die ausgabe im terminal kopieren und uns in einem pastebin zeigen. wie ein foto hochladen, nur mit text.
[21:46] <k1l> paste.ubuntuusers.de oder vergleichbare
[21:47] <Guest47012> Aber wenn doch klar ist, dass ich es sowieso nicht abschalten muss, (auch nicht in öffentlichen WLANs) dann lasse ich es einfach.
[21:47] <k1l> Guest47012: du redest immer von winter und winterreifen, hast aber gerade sommer
[21:48] <apollo13> ne der fängt erst im juni an
[21:48] <nagetier> Bestimmt sehr lange Windows genutzt :)
[21:49] <k1l> in einem normalen wlan, wo ein router oder AP das ganze netwerk macht ist das doch ein ganz anderes setup. da hilft dir jetzt die ausgabe mit deinem umts netwerk nicht
[21:49] <Guest47012> Ich will eigentlich über öffentliche WLANs demnächst gehen, wir haben da ein paar z.B. in der Nähe der Bücherei
[21:50] <Guest47012> Oh, hat sich überschnitten. Ja, dann schaue ich da erst mal, was mein netstat im öffentlichen WLAN so sagt
[21:50] <bekks> Nichts anderes als jetzt.
[21:51] <Guest47012> Muss ich das dnsmasq überhaupt abschalten, oder kann man das bedenkenlos im öffentlichen WLAN anlassen
[21:51] <apollo13> oO
[21:51] <bekks> 0419 234715 < Guest47012> Aber wenn doch klar ist, dass ich es sowieso nicht abschalten muss, (auch nicht in öffentlichen WLANs) dann lasse ich es einfach.
[21:52] <bekks> Vor vier Minuten war das irgendwie noch klar.
[21:52] <apollo13> natürlich abschalten, ist definitiv mehr code der aktiv rennt, ergo größere angriffsfläcje (bofh lässt grüßen)
[21:52] <nagetier> Jetzt ist er wieder im Verteidigungsmodus :)
[21:53] <mrkramps> also http://wiki.ubuntuusers.de/Offene_Ports#Keine-offene-Ports-Philosophie-von-Ubuntu sagt eigentlich schon alles
[21:54] <apollo13> naja nicht unbedingt, wenn ein dns query den umweg über einen caching server macht ist das ein dienst mehr der fehler haben kann ;)
[21:54] <mrkramps> und für Ubuntu Studio kann hier sowieso keiner die Hand ins Feuer legen
[21:54] <Guest47012> Heißt Fehler hackbar?
[21:55] <apollo13> je nach fehler ja
[21:56] <Guest47012> Ich habe das Studio genommen, weil ich nicht wusste, wo man die ganzen Schriften herbekommt. Aber vermutlich kann ich die einfach in eine neue xubuntu-Installation kopieren
[21:56] <bekks> Die braucht man nicht zu kopieren, die kann man einfach installieren.
[21:57] <nagetier> Studio verwendet andere/mehr Schriften als xubuntu?
[21:57] <Guest47012> Alle Schriften bekomme ich aus der Paketverwaltung?
[21:57] <nagetier> .. ohne Studio?
[21:57] <mrkramps> nagetier, nein … die haben dafür nur ein metapaket
[21:58] <nagetier> ok
[21:58] <mrkramps> ist aber in den offiziellen paketquellen
[21:58] <mrkramps> ubuntustudio-font-meta
[21:58] <nagetier> ah, ok
[21:59] <mrkramps> das ist nur nichtmal die hälfte drin, von dem, was ich brauche -.-
[22:00] <apollo13> es gibt mehr als arial und sans? :p
[22:02] <Guest47012> Aber notfalls kann ich doch alle Schrifte einfach mit find -iname "*ttf" suchen und dann ins home kopieren
[22:02] <mrkramps> Guest47012, und wozu?!
[22:02] <Guest47012> Ich will lieber xubuntu, wenn das studio anders ist. Ich habe es nur wegen der Schriften genommen
[22:03] <bekks> Dann installier Dir doch einfach die Desktopumgebung nach, wenn Dir das lieber ist?
[22:03] <Guest47012> Auf den lowlatency-Kernel verzichte ich gerne
[22:03] <apollo13> not sure if trolling
[22:03] <mrkramps> die schriften liegen alle mit ihren eigenen paketen in den offiziellen quellen. da muss man nichts ins homeverzeichnis kopieren
[22:04] <Guest47012> Sag mal apollo13, bist Du Wikipedianer?
[22:04] <nagetier> Guest47012, schau mal was 'apt-cache -n search ttf' alles ausgibt.
[22:05] <nagetier> oder tausche ttf geben font
[22:05] <nagetier> *gegen
[22:05] <apollo13> oder apt-file search *.ttf
[22:05] <mrkramps> font ist inzwischen richtig
[22:05] <apollo13> mhm, vlt ohne stern
[22:06] <Guest47012> 133 Schriften
[22:09] <Guest47012> Aber ich hatte einfach keine Schriften gefunden. Ich brauche schon ein paar Schriften für mein inkscape. Und ich wusste einfach nicht wo ich die herbekomme. Habt ihr da was?
[22:09] <mrkramps> was soll das jetzt heißen?
[22:09] <Guest47012> Gibt es noch mehr Meta-Pakete für Schriften?
[22:10] <mrkramps> sind mir nicht bekannt
[22:11] <ring0> kannst mal hier gucken: http://wiki.ubuntuusers.de/Schriftarten
[22:11] <nagetier> http://wiki.ubuntuusers.de/Fontmanager , http://wiki.ubuntuusers.de/Schriftarten , http://wiki.ubuntuusers.de/Schriften
[22:11] <mrkramps> ansonsten http://openfontlibrary.org und https://www.theleagueofmoveabletype.com/
[22:11] <nagetier> jo
[22:12] <Guest47012> Ah prima. Das war ein echts Problem - war bei Windows etwas einfacher, sich da was zu kaufen
[22:12] <mrkramps> kaufen? schriftarten? Oo
[22:13] <Guest47012> Na ja, für 20 Euro hast Du da ne DVD bekommen, die für den Normalanwender ausreicht.
[22:13] <Guest47012> Mein Access war sehr viel teurer, glaube mir
[22:13] <ring0> mehr schriftarten als in http://wiki.ubuntuusers.de/Schriftarten aufgelistet braucht kein mensch
[22:13] <nagetier> kann man die nicht auch in Ubuntu verwenden?
[22:14] <bekks> NAtürlich.
[22:14] <nagetier> dachte es mir
[22:14] <Guest47012> Leider nein!!!
[22:14] <bekks> Wieso nicht?
[22:14] <mrkramps> ach?
[22:14] <bekks> In welchem Format liegen die Schriften denn vor?
[22:14] <apollo13> locate *.ttf|wc -> 1049 auf nem system wo kein wert auf schriftarten gelegt wird, kA was ihr wollt
[22:15] <Guest47012> ÜÄÖ ist alles falsch übersetzt. Da kommt nur Blödsinn bei fast 40% der Schriften. Alle liegen im ttf-Format vor.
[22:15] <bekks> ttf Schriften werden nicht übersetzt. Und das Format ist unter Windows und Linux identisch.
[22:16] <Guest47012> Hmmm ... dachte das liegt am utf8
[22:18] <Guest47012> Könnte aber auch an der billig-DVD von damals liegen, weil mein Corel und mein Word hat mir eigentlich die meisten Schriftarten installiert
[22:18] <Guest47012> Aber das ist nicht so wichtig.
[22:19] <Guest47012> Auf jeden Fall vielen Dank mit den Tipps mit der Firewall. Ich war mir da echt etwas unsicher.
[22:20] <nagetier> Wobei nach 0.0.0.0 suchen nicht soo schwer gewesen wäre :)
[22:21] <Guest47012> Komm da erst mal drauf, das einfach nur in die Suchmaschine einzugeben!
[22:21] <nagetier> passt schon ;)
[22:21] <Guest47012> Wer seid ihr eigentlich. Informatik studiert? Normale User seid ihr (hoffentlich) nicht.
[22:22] <Guest47012> Nicht dass ich mich schämen muss (eigentlich habe ich Ubuntu schon länger)
[22:23] <mrkramps> Guest47012, das ist wohl eher ein thema für #ubuntu-de-offtopic
[22:25] <Guest47012> Ich wollte nicht zu privat werden, wollte nur wissen, wieso ich seit 3 Jahren Ubuntus benütze und das alles nicht weiß (nicht dass ich hier mit Profis rede und mich wundere)
[22:26] <k1l> desto mehr man sich in themen einliest, desto mehr wissen bekommt man und lernt vor allem auch wie man sich effizient wissen besorgen kann wenn man es braucht.
[22:26] <mrkramps> schön gesagt, k1l
[22:27] <mrkramps> dafür muss man übrigens nicht studierter informatiker sein
[22:27] <Guest47012> Wie einarbeiten? Gekaufte Bücher oder Internet? Oder geht es doch nur mit Freund?
[22:28] <bekks> LEsen. Zum Beispiel die Links die man dir gab.
[22:28] <k1l> Guest47012: mal hand aufs herz: hast du dir die verlinkten wiki seiten durchgelesen? oder hast du nur überflogen ob da befehle stehen?
[22:28] <mrkramps> internet ist was ganz tolles … foren, wikis, irc channel
[22:28] <Rochvellon> das wiki von ubuntu ist bspw. recht gut.
[22:28] <mrkramps> mailing lists, bug tracker, datenbanken
[22:28] <Guest47012> Ehrlich? Mehrmals
[22:29] <bekks> In der kurzen Zeit kann das nicht sein.
[22:29] <Guest47012> Doch. Ich lese es seit 3 Jahren
[22:29] <mrkramps> das wiki vielleicht, aber sicher nicht die links, die du in der letzten stunde bekommen hast
[22:31] <Guest47012> Da waren zwar neue dabei, aber z.B. ufw habe ich mir schon 10 Mal durchgelesen mitsamts man-Seite
[22:31] <bekks> Dann hättest du von "ufw status verbose" gewusst, z.B.
[22:33] <ika> Hi Leute, Ich habe vor ein paar Tagen Ubuntu Installiert und mich heute an mein erstes Shell Skript gewagt. Es soll meine Bildschirmauflösung auf 1920x1080 Pixel umstellen. Den Code von dem Skript hab ich hier gepostet: Wenn ich das Skript ausführe stellt es mir die Auflösung auch richtig ein. Leider aber nur für etwa 1 Sekunde dann bekomme ich wieder die vorherige Auflösung. Den neuen Mode von xrandr hat es aber auf jeden fall ers
[22:33] <ika> hinzugefügt. Denn wenn ich nach ausführen des Skript per hand xrandr --output VBOX0 --mode "1920x1080_60.00" in die bash schreibe bekomme ich wieder die Full hd Auflösung, und diesmal bleibt sie auch. Jetzt meine Frage warum bleibt die Auflösung nicht gleich nach ausführen des Skripts richtig?
[22:33] <mrkramps> bekks, der befehl steht echt nicht im wiki
[22:33] <ika> ups den code hab ich hier: http://pastebin.com/yTjRtGbk
[22:34] <Guest47012> Und selbst wenn er dort stünde, so kommt mit dem Output nicht zurecht.
[22:34] <mrkramps> ika, hast du die gasterweiterungen im gastsystem in virtualbox installiert?
[22:35] <ika> mkrkramps, hmh ne nicht das ich wüsste ^^
[22:36] <mrkramps> ika, mit den gasterweiterungen sollte es keine probleme mit der auflösung mehr geben … oder hast du einen besonderen anwendungsfall?
[22:36] <ika> ich google mal was das ist und mach das ^^
[22:36] <mrkramps> ika, http://wiki.ubuntuusers.de/VirtualBox/Installation#Gast-Erweiterungen
[22:36] <ika> mrkramps nein hab ich nicht ist nur für mich zum üben =)
[22:36] <ika> mrkramps danke =)
[22:38] <mrkramps> ika, und wo bitte ist $lin2 in dem skript deklariert?
[22:40] <ika> mrkramps oh da habe ich mich gerade beim kopieren in pastebin vertippt die zweite zeile ist die deklaration von lin2 ... ich habe 2 variablen verwenden weil ich nur weiß wie ich links oder rechts was von der variable abtrennen kann und nicht beides gleichzeitig ^^
[22:41] <ika> mrkramps also die zweite zeile ist eigentlich lin2=${lin##*Modeline }
[22:42] <mrkramps> ok
[22:42] <ika> ich musste das skript pre hand abschreiben weil ich nicht aus der viertuellen box heraus ins windows kopieren konnte ^^
[22:42] <bekks> mrkramps: aber in der "RULES SYNTAX" der man page.
[22:42] <mrkramps> bekks, herje … wolltest du dem jetzt auch noch manpages erklären ^^
[22:43] <bekks> Nope, er sagte, er habe die man-page gelesen.
[22:43] <bekks> Da stehts halt drin.
[22:45] <mrkramps> ah, das habe ich nicht mitbekommen … dann hätte er es aber ganz bestimmt wissen müssen
[22:45] <mrkramps> ika, bis auf den typo sollte das skript so funktionieren
[22:46] <mrkramps> allerdings solltest du eine abfrage einbauen, ob die modeline schon existiert, bevor du die immer wieder beim ausführen des skriptes neu einbindest
[22:46] <ika> mrkramps jo es funktioniert ja eigentlich auch, wenn ich es ausführe wird die auflösung auch auf 1920x1080 gestellt aber nur für eine sekunde danach setzt sie sich auf die vorherige 1600 mal irgendwas zurück :/
[22:47] <mrkramps> ika, deswegen mal im gastsystem die gasterweiterungen installieren: sudo apt-get install virtualbox-guest-x11 virtualbox-guest-utils
[22:48] <bekks> Das wird nur funktionieren, wenn deren Versionen mit der vbox Version auf dem Windows Host übereinstimmen.
[22:48] <bekks> Ansonsten muss man diese Pakete deinstallieren, und die Guest Additions wie im Virtualbox-Handbuch beschrieben installieren.
[22:49] <mrkramps> wusste gar nicht, dass VBox da so pingelich ist :\
[22:49] <ika> jo wollt ich grade mache aber irgendwie hat mein ubuntu in der vbox keine internet -.- ... als ich es gestern gestartet habe hatte ich noch internet ^^ ich schaue grad was da nicht stimmt ^^
[22:50] <nagetier> mrkramps, vbox meldet sich doch direkt wenn die Versionen nicht übereinstimmen
[22:50] <mrkramps> nagetier, dann haben die bislang bei mir wohl immer übereingestimmt
[23:28] <ika> ok ich glaub ich habs bald ^^ erstmal in der vbox das netzwerk auf nat statt auf netzerkbrücke eingestellt ^^ ... das habe ich dann habe ich vbox gasterweiterungen installieren wollte ein fehler bekommen , dass ich trotzdem keine verbindung zum http://de.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu herstellen konnte ^^ dann hab ich in nem forum gelesen dass man in der sources.list das de wegmachen muss ... jetzt wirds grad installier ^^
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[04:23] <NikTh> Aloha
[04:23] <NikTh> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/pulseaudio/+bug/1445358
[04:24] <NikTh> Can we catch up the release date ? I think it's very difficult, but asking anyway :)
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2015-04-19-#ubuntu-nz
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[20:09] <atamira> morning all
[20:17] <ibeardslee> morning
[20:48] <olly> morning
[22:31] <mwhudson> morning
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2015-04-19-#ubuntu-gnome
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[01:49] <Noskcaj> ty
[02:15] <bradscoolio> Greetings!
[02:15] <bradscoolio> I have a quick question.
[02:16] <bradscoolio> Are there plans for kernel 4.0 and livepatching?
[02:29] <Noskcaj> bradscoolio, 15.10
[02:29] <Noskcaj> it should be here then
[02:30] <bradscoolio> Will 15.04 be updatable to 15.10?
[03:22] <darkxst> I don't think the livepatching is ready for use yet
[12:29] <colbyf> hi anyone know who I install a smb printer on ubuntu gnome or even better who to install the normal ubuntu print manager
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2015-04-19-#ubuntu-server
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[05:53] <RusAlex> q: what command manages virtual machine resources settings kvm?
[09:27] <lordievader> Good morning.
[09:28] <Seveas> Hello, Anakin.
[09:30] <lordievader> Hihi ;)
[10:01] <RusAlex> q: im trying to add my own firewall rules to /etc/sysconfig/firewall script
[10:02] <RusAlex> and the problem is I cant add rule like this : iptables -I FORWARD -p tcp -d <ip> -j ACCEPT, it is always comes as the last rule , after reboot.
[10:02] <RusAlex> but /etc/sysconfig/firewall uses iptables --policy FORWARD FORBID
[10:02] <RusAlex> so my rule does not work
[10:02] <lordievader> RusAlex: Adding individual lines to iptables in a script is SLOW. Rather use the iptables-save and iptables-restore functionality.
[10:03] <RusAlex> lordievader: ok, but it was default ubuntu script for iptables urles
[10:04] <lordievader> RusAlex: Really? Quickly looking through [1] I do not see the script you are referring to. [1] https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IptablesHowTo#Saving_iptables
[10:06] <lordievader> Not that I agree with the way that is presented there, but I guess that is a personal preference.
[11:58] <RusAlex> im trying to understand what happens when kvm start with using bridge networking
[11:59] <RusAlex> it add some of iptables rules, during startup I think.
[11:59] <RusAlex> I want to figure out where it comes from
[12:02] <RusAlex> because my iptables-restore command write my forward rule to the end of forward chain
[12:02] <RusAlex> already after REJECT ALL bit
[12:06] <RusAlex> so I understand that it's libvirt rules
[12:06] <RusAlex> and they are loading before my iptables-restore command executed
[12:08] <RusAlex> so maybe I have to prepend rules.. trygin
[12:08] <RusAlex> trying
[12:37] <lordievader> RusAlex: Libvirtd adds a few rules for the bridging/natting.
[12:42] <RusAlex> yep, I understand this. Now I need to figure our how to set up my custom rule using libvrtd xml configs.
[13:06] <devster31> hi, what's a good ircd to start with? I'm looking mainly for ease of use and basic feature support, I don't need ldap or sasl support
[13:35] <oopaine> hi@ll, i like to use two network interfaces on my machine, but if i set up the second interface to a static ip address i could not load any packages; what is the right way to solve?
[14:14] <sleepee> hello everybody, quick question here. so i was using an ubuntu server as a kvm host and i want to reinstall the host OS... but, i want to save the kvm guests which are located /var. whats the worst that could happen if i just reinstall and leave /var unformatted?
[14:20] <lordievader> sleepee: You'd loose your vm definitions. Normally they are in /etc/libvirt/qemu/
[18:42] <Mead> Hello all, about to install server to run a home server. Would there be any issue with ubuntu server running a emulator or playing media?
[19:04] <darius93> anyone know how to make the kickstart format the whole partition without setting a specific size or could i omit the --size?
[21:15] <samsn> lva
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2015-04-19-#ubuntu-ci-eng
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[11:31] <Mirv> building, building..
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2015-04-19-#ubuntu-si
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[06:51] <Seniorita> [Ubuntu.si] R33D3M33R: RE: Kako bi prevedli Scope https://www.ubuntu.si/forum/discussion/comment/42884#Comment_42884
[07:16] <zdobbie> FML http://www.arso.gov.si/vreme/napovedi%20in%20podatki/satelit_uvod2.html
[07:16] <Seniorita> Satelitska slika oblačnosti - Slovenija
[07:16] <jabuk> When the best senior developer is called for an unresolvable bug http://tclhost.com/P1yIZfk.gif
[08:17] <Seniorita> [Ubuntu.si] CrazyLemon: RE: Kako bi prevedli Scope https://www.ubuntu.si/forum/discussion/comment/42885#Comment_42885
[08:37] <Seniorita> [Ubuntu.si] dusang: RE: Samodejen start računalnika vsak delovni dan https://www.ubuntu.si/forum/discussion/comment/42886#Comment_42886
[08:55] <Seniorita> [Ubuntu.si] CrazyLemon: RE: Samodejen start računalnika vsak delovni dan https://www.ubuntu.si/forum/discussion/comment/42887#Comment_42887
[08:59] <yang> .vreme lj
[08:59] <jabuk> ARSO: Ljubljana (299m): 3°C @19.04.2015 8:00 UTC.
[08:59] <jabuk> Vlažnost: 88% severozahodnik 0.4 m/s zmerno oblačno
[08:59] <jabuk> Sončni vzhod: 04:10:23, Kulminacija: 11:02:07, Sončni zahod: 17:53:51
[08:59] <jabuk> Dan je dolg: 13ur 43min 27s, Luna je v ščipu
[10:30] <zdobbie> .vreme Celje
[10:30] <jabuk> ARSO: Celje (244m): 10°C @19.04.2015 10:00 UTC.
[10:30] <jabuk> Vlažnost: 48% vzhodnik 1.9 m/s
[10:30] <jabuk> Sončni vzhod: 04:07:07, Kulminacija: 10:59:14, Sončni zahod: 17:51:21
[10:30] <jabuk> Dan je dolg: 13ur 44min 14s, Luna je v ščipu
[10:42] <yang> .vreme lj
[10:42] <jabuk> ARSO: Ljubljana (299m): 8°C @19.04.2015 10:00 UTC.
[10:42] <jabuk> Vlažnost: 59% jugozahodnik 0.9 m/s zmerno oblačno
[10:42] <jabuk> Sončni vzhod: 04:10:23, Kulminacija: 11:02:07, Sončni zahod: 17:53:51
[10:42] <jabuk> Dan je dolg: 13ur 43min 27s, Luna je v ščipu
[10:55] <yang> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GygE2sz5wHs
[10:55] <Seniorita> Good Samaritan Risks Life to Save Man Who Fell Onto Subway Tracks - YouTube
[10:55] <Seniorita> »Good Samaritan Risks Life to Save Man Who Fell Onto Subway Tracks -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------...«
[11:03] <zdobbie> .vreme Celje
[11:03] <jabuk> ARSO: Celje (244m): 10°C @19.04.2015 10:00 UTC.
[11:03] <jabuk> Vlažnost: 48% vzhodnik 1.9 m/s
[11:03] <jabuk> Sončni vzhod: 04:07:07, Kulminacija: 10:59:14, Sončni zahod: 17:51:21
[11:03] <jabuk> Dan je dolg: 13ur 44min 14s, Luna je v ščipu
[11:07] <CrazyLemon> one more..pls!
[11:26] <yang> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LPIMlDAsTpA
[11:26] <Seniorita> Gyrocopter lands on the lawn of the US Capitol building, Washington - YouTube
[11:26] <Seniorita> »Gyrocopter lands on the lawn of the US Capitol building, Washington -----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------...«
[12:02] <sasa84> hejhou miškice
[12:02] <idioterna> o
[13:26] <CrazyLemon> zdobbie amstel gold race ?
[13:43] <zdobbie> CrazyLemon: THEN FUCKIN' BREAK YOU ASSHOLE
[13:47] <dz0ny> CrazyLemon: translate?
[13:50] <CrazyLemon> dz0ny kaj pa?
[13:50] <yang> https://vimeo.com/108560747
[13:50] <Seniorita> St Helena's First Mountain Bike Competition on Vimeo
[13:50] <Seniorita> »St Helena's First Mountain Bike Competition took place on Saturday 20 September 2014. In first place for the adults race was Alonzo Henry, followed closely by…«
[13:50] <yang> lahk se prjavte
[13:53] <zdobbie> CrazyLemon: THEN FUCKIN' BREAK YOU ASSHOLE
[13:54] <zdobbie> break plz
[13:54] <CrazyLemon> dz0ny a ga ti kaj razumeš?
[13:57] <zdobbie> CrazyLemon: a ne gledas?
[13:59] <CrazyLemon> zdobbie https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/17510489/Zaslonska%20slika%202015-04-19%2015%3A58%3A09.png
[13:59] <zdobbie> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=89Sw-OtFmvY
[13:59] <Seniorita> 2 Riders Fight in Amstel Gold Race 2015 HD - YouTube
[13:59] <Seniorita> »Site: http://www.CyclingHub.tv Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/Cyclinghub1 Twitter: http://twitter.com/lecyclinghub Watch more Cycling here: http://cycling...«
[14:00] <zdobbie> wat en HD stream
[14:00] <zdobbie> #ubuntu-hr
[14:00] <zdobbie> wat en traitor
[14:07] <CrazyLemon> zdobbie ane!
[14:10] <CrazyLemon> zdobbie ta misli da je traktor
[14:56] <zdobbie_> .vreme Celje
[14:56] <jabuk> ARSO: Celje (244m): 13°C @19.04.2015 14:00 UTC.
[14:57] <jabuk> Vlažnost: 41% vzhodnik 1.3 m/s
[14:57] <jabuk> Sončni vzhod: 04:07:07, Kulminacija: 10:59:14, Sončni zahod: 17:51:21
[14:57] <jabuk> Dan je dolg: 13ur 44min 14s, Luna je v ščipu
[14:57] <zdobbie_> naah
[14:57] <CrazyLemon> pössy
[14:59] <CrazyLemon> zdobbie_ kaj meniš na sprednja zobnika 39/54 ? a bo je.. za vzpone?
[15:00] <zdobbie_> CrazyLemon: ja
[15:01] <CrazyLemon> zdobbie_ kaj imaš ti spredaj na foliji?
[15:03] <zdobbie_> 53/39
[15:04] <zdobbie_> CrazyLemon: pejt 50/34, pa kaseto 11/28
[15:05] <CrazyLemon> zdobbie_ dont be silly.. if its good enough for you its good enough for me1
[15:05] <CrazyLemon> !*
[15:06] <zdobbie_> .yt fargo you're making a big mistake
[15:06] <jabuk> 50 Greatest Movie Outtakes Of All Time (9 minut) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2LgIj4xm4k0 ♥35,638 ▶21,250,898
[15:38] <idioterna> CrazyLemon: odvisn kere hribe misls plezat pa kok mas kil
[15:48] <zdobbie_> predvsem je star
[15:52] <CrazyLemon> idioterna vse hribe! kil.. kaj pa vem.. 80 smth
[15:52] <idioterna> ce mas 80 kil vzem kompakt
[15:52] <idioterna> za strme hribe bo velik bols
[15:55] <zdobbie_> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bEqTHVVK-5U
[15:55] <Seniorita> A Nightmare on Stelvio Pass [RAW onboard] - YouTube
[15:55] <Seniorita> »exclusive pictures on Instagram: http://instagram.com/schaaf_gopro_only LIKE my facebook page: http://facebook.com/schaafyoutube --- Actually it wasn't a nig...«
[16:05] <CrazyLemon> ta stelvio zgleda nice
[16:05] <idioterna> stelvio ni nc kej zlo grozn kar se tice naklona
[16:07] <CrazyLemon> sej ne pravim da zgleda grozno :D zgleda nice :D
[16:07] <CrazyLemon> lih prav za 39ko!
[16:09] <idioterna> ja
[16:09] <zdobbie_> al pa 53
[16:10] <zdobbie_> odvisno, kok se pises
[16:17] <CrazyLemon> true that
[16:43] <yang> .vreme lj
[16:43] <jabuk> ARSO: Ljubljana (299m): 13°C @19.04.2015 16:00 UTC.
[16:43] <jabuk> Vlažnost: 39% južni veter 2.3 m/s pretežno jasno
[16:43] <jabuk> Sončni vzhod: 04:10:23, Kulminacija: 11:02:07, Sončni zahod: 17:53:51
[16:43] <jabuk> Dan je dolg: 13ur 43min 27s, Luna je v ščipu
[19:00] <zdobbie_> ayup
[19:02] <idioterna> https://bou.si/pic/batch/green-sunday
[19:02] <idioterna> sm biu.
[19:06] <yang> lepo zgleda nad ljubljano, ze vse zeleno
[19:07] <anny_> mislim, da bo sneg!
[19:09] <idioterna> anny_: yang je pomoje slikco komentiru
[19:09] <idioterna> https://bou.si/pic/batch/green-sunday
[19:09] <idioterna> slikce.
[19:09] <anny_> ja
[19:09] <anny_> jaz pa svoj nedavni tek po mrazu
[19:10] <anny_> utrip mi je nabilo na 190
[19:12] <yang> jaz pa sprehod po mrazu
[19:12] <yang> sem mislil, da bo bolj toplo
[19:12] <yang> 13 je pisalo na vremenkotu
[19:12] <yang> pa se mi je zdelo bolj pod 10
[19:14] <idioterna> v senci je bil skor minus
[19:14] <idioterna> na soncku pa ene 15
[19:23] <anny_> saj bo bolje...že ta teden
[19:23] <CrazyLemon> že jutri bo bolje!
[19:23] <CrazyLemon> obljubim!
[19:23] <CrazyLemon> :p
[20:42] <yang> https://emailselfdefense.fsf.org/en/
[20:42] <Seniorita> Email Self-Defense - a guide to fighting surveillance with GnuPG encryption
[20:42] <Seniorita> »Email surveillance violates our fundamental rights and makes free speech risky. This guide will teach you email self-defense in 30 minutes with GnuPG.«
[20:44] <Sky[x]> kaksna je jutri napoved
[20:44] <Sky[x]> .napoved lj
[20:44] <jabuk> Zvečer, ponoči in jutri bo pretežno jasno. Zjutraj bo ponekod po kotlinah možna kratkotrajna megla. V zatišnih legah bo nevarnost slane. Najnižje jutranje temperature bodo od -3 do 3, najvišje dnevne od 16 do 20 stopinj C.
[21:00] <idioterna> se cune znost u office
[21:00] <idioterna> bbl
[21:03] <CrazyLemon> v office ob tej uri?
[21:04] <CrazyLemon> http://www.mahmtb.com/prva-mahmtb-tura/
[21:05] <Seniorita> Gremo skupaj na bicikl! Super bo! - Mah MTB
[21:07] <yang> CrazyLemon: tole se prjav, lahko zmagas, k jih verjetn ne bo velik tekmoval https://vimeo.com/108560747
[21:07] <Seniorita> St Helena's First Mountain Bike Competition on Vimeo
[21:07] <Seniorita> »St Helena's First Mountain Bike Competition took place on Saturday 20 September 2014. In first place for the adults race was Alonzo Henry, followed closely by…«
[21:08] <CrazyLemon> yang zakaj pa se ti ne bi prijavil?
[21:08] <yang> sej bi se, sam nima mvec MTBja
[21:10] <CrazyLemon> no js bi se tudi.. samo nimam vec namena vozit mtb
[21:14] <CrazyLemon> ln
[21:27] <idioterna> CrazyLemon: ja, prazno mesto je
[21:27] <idioterna> prov fino je jit
[21:30] <yang> idioterna: a zdej gres pa nazaj domov, zjutraj pa spet nazaj ?
[21:32] <yang> Kolk je sploh se kaj Linux konferenc organiziranih v Sloveniji ?
[21:32] <jabuk> Microsoft plans to release a new browser with Windows 10 http://tclhost.com/vpbFIeO.jpg
[21:33] <idioterna> yang: ja
[21:33] <idioterna> zakaj pa ne ?
[21:35] <yang> Iscem malo o "Linux konferencah" v SLO in sem nasel tole http://www.linux-konferenca.org/index.php?page=about 300 EUR kotizacije...
[21:36] <Seniorita> Poslovna Linux konferenca 2010
[21:36] <Seniorita> »Mednarodna poslovna Linux in odprtokodna konferenca - vse o Linux in odprti kodi za poslovanje, odprtokodne informacijske sisteme - poslovna it konferenca Linux in odprta koda, 2010«
[21:37] <yang> aha openway je zdaj v kratkem 24. april
[21:38] <idioterna> dunno js ne hodm kej dost na konference uresnic
[21:44] <yang> jaz sem hodil vcas bolj
[21:45] <yang> bil sem na parih, pri nas pa v tujini
[21:45] <yang> Ampak zdaj odkar so webstreami si lahko vse ogledas v zivo
[21:45] <yang> mislim online
[21:46] <yang> ali pa si predavanja enostavno pogledas kasneje
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2015-04-19-#ubuntu-africa
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[06:17] <Kilos> helloooo africa
[07:28] <rmyc> http://www.hastebin.com/qusesitoja.vhdl
[07:28] <Kilos> hi rmyc
[07:29] <rmyc> Hello.
[07:29] <Kilos> welcome to ubuntu-africa
[07:29] <Kilos> where are you?
[07:31] <rmyc> USA.
[07:31] <Kilos> aha
[07:32] <rmyc> Great Lakes region.
[07:32] <Kilos> nice
[07:32] <rmyc> chicagoland
[07:32] <Kilos> hehe
[07:34] <rmyc> Here are the words of the Christian God who loves you.
[07:34] <rmyc> And formed you.
[07:34] <rmyc> http://www.hastebin.com/ajayivuwic.vhdl
[07:35] <Kilos> are you a linux user?
[07:35] <rmyc> Not at the moment, though normally.
[08:47] <stickyboy> Kilos: I'm going to Ethiopia tomorrow.
[08:47] <stickyboy> Gonna try to reach out to tsega.
[08:47] <stickyboy> See if I can get a meetup.
[08:48] <Kilos> good stickyboy and kick him for being so scarce
[08:49] <stickyboy> Mos def
[08:49] <Kilos> and also ask him where are all those west coast peeps he was going to bring here
[08:49] <stickyboy> Just tweeted to all #Ethiopa #Linux users too...
[08:49] <Kilos> eish twitter and FB are stealing all our peeps
[08:50] <Kilos> what is the matter with people, is irc so difficult
[08:51] <Kilos> and i mainly use twitter to fight with my isp
[08:52] <stickyboy> IRC is so sweet... low bandwidth. No javascript or big images. :P
[08:52] <Kilos> i love irc
[08:52] <Kilos> what are we missing that everyone else sees
[10:49] <pieter2627> \away
[12:52] <Kilos> hi Neo31
[12:52] <Kilos> finish that project man
[13:06] <Neo31> lol Kilos
[13:06] <Neo31> delivering this weekend
[13:07] <Neo31> i'm gonna need one or two more weeks dealing with enhancments and bug returns ...
[13:07] <Neo31> then i'm off
[13:07] <Neo31> i started to hate it
[13:07] <Neo31> hhh
[13:07] <Neo31> u good ?
[13:10] <Kilos> im ok ty
[13:11] <Kilos> just lonely doing everything myself
[13:11] <Kilos> you lucky you arent applying for membership id vote -1
[14:14] <Kilos> Neo31 take not
[14:14] <Kilos> note
[14:33] <Neo31> loool Kilos
[14:33] <Neo31> I wouldn't do it
[14:34] <Neo31> maybe next time if i have more free time
[14:37] <Kilos> lol
[14:41] <Kilos> Neo31 wont you translate the slexy paste in the topic to french for me please
[14:42] <Kilos> im trying to contact the mali peeps but dont think they understand english
[15:01] <Neo31> ok if this is not urgent
[15:02] <Neo31> can do it before i go to sleep to tomorrow night
[15:02] <Kilos> lol yes thats fine ty or mabe elacheche can do it for you
[15:26] <Neo31> yep
[15:26] <Neo31> either one of us
[15:26] <Neo31> the first who will be available to do it :)
[15:31] <Kilos> ty
[15:32] <Kilos> even cheche junior
[21:11] <qwebirc92754> good evening
[21:11] <Kilos> hi qwebirc92754
[21:11] <Kilos> you inetpro ?
[21:12] <qwebirc92754> where is everybody?
[21:12] <Kilos> resting before monday
[21:12] * qwebirc92754 found this nice web page on the web
[21:13] <Kilos> oh yes
[21:13] <Kilos> tell
[21:13] <qwebirc92754> something about Ubuntu for Africa
[21:13] <Kilos> oh that sounds gfood
[21:13] * qwebirc92754 getting hungry now
[21:14] <Kilos> again
[21:16] <qwebirc92754> oom Kilos, maybe you should put the link to http://ubuntu-africa.info up there in the topic
[21:17] <Kilos> already?
[21:18] <Kilos> aw i forgot how
[21:32] <qwebirc92754> well done oom Kilos!
[21:32] <qwebirc92754> good night
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2015-04-19-#ubuntu-vn
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[11:15] <vubuntor976> chán số mình số nhọ .
[11:15] <vubuntor976> vừa làm xong phần mềm thì thằng ubuntu đã chuyển sang systemctl
[11:16] <vubuntor976> mà systemctl của thằng fedora chứ ko đc của opensuse nữa
[11:16] <vubuntor976> cái đó khó bẫy thông tin ra
[11:23] <vubuntor976> cái elementary đc cái trình duyệt file phần mềm nghe nhạc terminal đẹp tốt tiện ích
[11:24] <vubuntor976> thêm cái mail client của nó nữa
[11:24] <vubuntor976> còn lại chán vồn
[11:25] <vubuntor976> ubuntu thì đợt này chuẩn bị tạch rồi. vì giữ lại cái title còn trong khi gnome 3 16 nó chuẩn bị bỏ luôn cái title thay thế bằng headbar title
[11:48] <n0bawk> vubuntor976: như dùng mac thôi?
[11:49] <vubuntor976> mốt cái gnome nó còn phát triển khiếp nữa
[11:49] <vubuntor976> giờ mới chỉ là demo thôi
[11:50] <vubuntor976> sợ mốt theo cái gtk của gnome chuyển sang lập trình trên win hết tương thích
[11:50] <n0bawk> good?
[11:50] <vubuntor976> chắc mình cũng chạy
[11:50] <n0bawk> developing is good?
[11:50] <vubuntor976> chắc sẽ good hơn
[11:52] <vubuntor976> cái gnome nó thiết kế kiểu nước lợ desktop ko ra desktop mà vừa cảm ứng lẫn desktop
[11:52] <vubuntor976> chắc tại chưa hoàn thiện
[11:54] <vubuntor976> mà nó chiếm quá nhiều không gian tầm nhìn trong thao tác
[11:56] <vubuntor976> cũng muốn sửa lại cái gnome cho nó hợp chút tội toàn code c
[11:56] <vubuntor976> mà viết ko đúng thì nó chạy như zombie
[11:57] <vubuntor976> phải cái đó có phiên bản bằng python
[11:57] <vubuntor976> ko sợ bị đứng máy
[11:58] <vubuntor976> mà gnome giờ ở vài distro nó cũng chạy chẵng khác zombie
[11:59] <vubuntor976> àk mà để xem có cái desktop nào viết bằng python ko
[11:59] <vubuntor976> để hóng sửa
[12:02] <vubuntor976> sugar _ _!!
[12:10] <vubuntor976> cái systemd của centos với opensuse vừa search dễ lấy hơn còn của fedora thì đẹp nhưng hóc xương
[12:18] <MrTuxHdb> vubuntor976: thế thiết kế hẳn cái mới
[12:18] <MrTuxHdb> thay GNOME đi
[12:18] <MrTuxHdb> cho nó nước ngọt
[12:18] <MrTuxHdb> hay *nước mặn*?
[12:19] <vubuntor976> chưa đủ đẳng cấp thánh @,@
[12:19] <vubuntor976> giờ thì phải cam chịu mà dùng thôi
[12:20] <MrTuxHdb> thế nên bớt phàn nàn vớ vẩn đi =))
[12:20] <vubuntor976> kde thì đc có mỗi thư viện phần mềm thì lởm hơn cả gnome
[12:21] <vubuntor976> chắc thế =]]]zzz
[16:35] <vubuntor596> haloo
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2015-04-19-#ubuntustudio-devel
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[18:24] <astraljava> zequence: Pardon me, but this laptop of mine isn't capable of doing test runs of ISO images. I tried with Xubuntu, and it took 3+ hours, and failed to reboot afterwards. I'm going to have to make other arrangements for testing. But I can do some development with this.
[21:21] <zequence> astraljava: Well, I've already made sure the ISOs boot and are functional. Would be nice to get a second opinion, but should be ok.
[21:21] <zequence> Seems like the Xubuntu folks have done a lot of testing
[21:21] <zequence> Ours is not exactly like theirs, so we could have some problems that I'm not aware of
[21:23] <zequence> I've pretty much skipped all normal desktop stuff, aside form the most basic stuff.
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ubuntu-chat
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2024-05-13T22:11:11.526176
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2015-04-19-#ubuntu-us-fl
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[18:50] <ahoneybun> mhall119: not sure if you got my last message
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ubuntu-chat
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2024-05-13T22:11:11.527535
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2015-04-19-#ubuntu-au
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[08:02] <Lum0s> Hey all
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ubuntu-chat
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2024-05-13T22:11:11.530824
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2015-04-19-#ubuntu-touch
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[00:39] <sysop2> SturmFlut thanks for asking, no after I installed touch I get usb 1-1.2.2:device descripter read/64, error -32.
[01:17] <sysop2> that was a red herring, unplugged extra usb I just a black screen. tried fail safe x and it just quits back to the menu.. is there a minimum res requirement or something?
[02:48] <sysop2> should 1280x800 be enough to run touch?
[03:42] <froyo> Hello
[03:42] <froyo> I installed ubuntu-sdk
[03:43] <froyo> and I don't which architure and framework should I use and target.
[03:43] <froyo> know*
[03:43] <froyo> There 14.04 and 15.04 framework, and intel, armfh architure
[03:48] <froyo> Hi, anyone online?
[03:48] <bzoltan_> froyo: the bq phone is armhf and the emulator is i386. The bq phone is running on 14.10 and on nexus4 you can insall 15.04 already. So it is up to what do you target.
[03:49] <froyo> but I'm using 14.04 development platform.
[03:49] <lotuspsychje> good morning
[03:49] <froyo> can I use 14.04 still?
[03:49] <froyo> Hi, good morning.
[03:51] <froyo> bzoltan, also...I don't want to use an emulator...because my pc is 32 bit and slow...Do I need to run every QML app in the emulator?
[03:55] <sysop2> has anyone got this to work on a atom based laptop with touch screen? I cant find mention of anyone doing it successfully and its starting to worry me.
[03:56] <froyo> the sdk?
[03:56] <sysop2> I installed ubuntu and it came up fine, I install ubuntu touch and rebooted and now it hangs on a black screen. I can get to a root prompt and I am installing the newest intel video drivers and updating all the packages, any other suggestions?
[03:56] <lotuspsychje> sysop2: you want to ask this in #ubuntu
[03:57] <sysop2> ok
[03:58] <froyo> Can I run QML app without using the emulator?
[03:59] <lotuspsychje> !devices | sysop2
[04:19] <lotuspsychje> how can i see the new touch apps like here: https://uappexplorer.com/apps
[04:21] <lotuspsychje> seems like new apps, just comes into the categories and never show as 'new'?
[04:22] <lotuspsychje> space * gives me most recent apps, but not all
[04:22] <froyo> It's not supported by Canonical, it's better to discuss this with the maintainer.
[04:23] <lotuspsychje> froyo: whats not supported?
[04:23] <froyo> oh sorry...it's to my friend
[04:26] <froyo> lotus...are you developing or packaging?
[08:51] <SturmFlut> Regarding the e-mail by Matthias Apitz to the ubuntu-phone mailing list: is it possible to launch the mediaplayer-app from the shell? I tried "ubuntu-app-launch mediaplayer-app file://${PATH}", and the app actually starts and seems to try to play the file, but the result is an error message claiming that "the connection to the background service failed."
[08:54] <SturmFlut> Oh, this particular video also fails when I start playback through the Video scope. Strange. It was indexed correctly by the mediascanner, but now it won't play.
[09:00] <popey> i just launched a video from the video scope then looked at the process list
[09:00] <popey> phablet 6237 55.3 3.8 253380 37844 ? Ssl 09:59 0:01 mediaplayer-app video:///media/phablet/2541-1C26/Videos/Arctic%20Monkeys%20-%20Do%20I%20Wanna%20Know%20(Official%20Video)-bpOSxM0rNPM.mp4
[09:00] <popey> so you need video:// then the path
[09:00] <popey> SturmFlut: ^
[09:00] <SturmFlut> popey: Ah, thanks a lot, I couldn't get any video to play so I couldn't look it up myself
[09:02] <SturmFlut> popey: I suppose the full command line to launch the media player is "ubuntu-app-launch mediaplayer-app video://${PATH}" then?
[09:02] <mpt> ogra_, renaming the item wouldn’t solve brunch875’s problem
[09:03] <popey> SturmFlut: i guess
[09:06] <NIN101> what's the path of the sms database on the filesystem?
[09:08] <SturmFlut> jamesh: Ping
[09:11] <SturmFlut> popey: Okay, seems like I'm hitting some kind of bug here. If the phone is freshly rebooted and I launch a video via the Video scope, it plays. If I start playback from the command line, the media player starts, but doesn't play the file, and after that the media player just keeps complaining about not being able to communicate with the background service.
[09:11] <popey> lemme try
[09:12] <SturmFlut> popey: I am running into bug 1295062 though, maybe my media database is corrupted
[09:14] <popey> yeah, it doesn't launch here using that method either
[09:15] <popey> oh, it does!
[09:15] <popey> if mediaplayer was closed
[09:15] <popey> works fine
[09:16] <SturmFlut> popey: Okay, was probably because of the other bug then
[09:20] <Azby> Hola/hello
[09:20] <SturmFlut> Azby: Hi
[09:22] <Azby> This a my first time intención a ir chanelar, Id iike todo report a bug in ubuntu touch
[09:22] <Azby> si this the right place?
[09:23] <Azby> Sorry for the autocorrect
[09:24] <SturmFlut> Azby: You can write to the ubuntu-phone mailing list or open a bug report on Launchpad.net. This way everyone can see the bug report, not all developers read the messages on this channel.
[09:25] <Azby> OK thank you
[09:27] <popey> Azby: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Avengers is a good place to find out where to file bugs
[09:28] <ogra_> mpt, no, but a lot of confusion around it :)
[09:29] <ogra_> mpt, if it said "quieten notifications" or some such, i would know what to expect ... "silent mode" kind of turns into "mute" in peoples brains (in mine at least :) )
[09:43] <mpt> ogra_, it doesn’t (or shouldn’t) just quieten notifications.
[09:45] <nik90> popey, ogra_: Hey, Unity8 completely froze on my BQ yesterday nite after charging it. I couldn't adb or phablet-shell into it to restart unity8. I had to resort to using the power button to restarting it. Is there another way I can access the phone and get the unity8 logs to help debug issues like this?
[09:46] <mibofra> hi guys, Does anyone remember images like this one http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-touch-preview/daily-preinstalled/current/saucy-preinstalled-phablet-armhf.zip installable from recovery? Is there any tool to obtain the flashable zips from for example the latest rootfs of vivid?
[09:46] <popey> nik90: mine froze just now.
[09:47] <popey> but I left it alone and it recovered, I imagine apport ate the cpu
[09:47] <popey> -rw-r----- 1 phablet whoopsie 140K Apr 19 09:32 _usr_bin_unity8.32011.crash
[09:47] <popey> yup, apport writing a crash file
[09:47] <SturmFlut> nik90: This has happened to me a couple of times, and like popey says, it recovered after waiting for a bit
[09:47] <popey> I would let it sit there, so the crash file is written out fully, and then uploaded
[09:48] <popey> that way the unity8 devs can debug it via errors.ubuntu.com
[09:48] <SturmFlut> mibofra: Well, I don't know much about this stuff, but there are files like http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-touch/daily-preinstalled/current/
[09:49] <nik90> ah ok
[09:50] <mibofra> ok but the rootfs into the tarball is not flashable in recovery.
[09:54] <SturmFlut> mibofra: Sorry, no idea.
[09:54] <mibofra> ok
[10:12] <NIN101> are there any plans to add "disk" encryption to ubuntu touch?
[10:19] <cylonmath> is there an easy way to import phone contacts from an android phone (samsung 5360?)
[10:20] <ogra_> NIN101, indeed
[10:20] <ogra_> cylonmath, via google contacts ...
[10:26] <NIN101> ogra_: do you know whether there is some kind of status page or so?
[10:27] <ogra_> NIN101, no, sorry ... but encryption is on the list ... we need greeter multiuser support first for the decryption though ...
[10:29] <ogra_> generally the term "convergence" actually means the whole system though ... not just running apps that adapt to the UI ... the phone will have an identical feature set to the desktop one day ... even on the plumbinng layer...
[10:29] <ogra_> -n
[10:54] <BOHverkill> yes i managed to change the time format from 12h to 24h :)
[10:54] <ogra_> congrats
[10:55] <BOHverkill> ogra_: thx :)
[10:56] <lotuspsychje> ogra_: you know a trick to display latest apps on touch?
[10:56] <lotuspsychje> i tryed space * but not all aps show
[11:16] <ogra_> lotuspsychje, i use the web appstore for tha, it shows them in the order they land in the store
[11:16] <ogra_> search for "appstore" ...
[11:17] <lotuspsychje> ogra_: yeah i got that in my favs, tought there might be a trick to display them 'most recent' on touch
[11:17] <lotuspsychje> would love that in the future, seeing all newest apps in front ubuntu store
[11:18] <nik90> Who decides on the "highlight of the week" in the ubuntu touch stores? Excellent choice for this week :P
[11:50] <Elleo> nik90: couldn't agree more ;)
[11:51] * ogra_ notes he has only 4 out of 6 essantial apps installed ...
[11:51] <ogra_> they cant be *that* essential then :P
[11:51] <Elleo> heh
[11:51] <nik90> lol
[11:52] <nik90> Elleo: hey btw, listitem.empty clicked signal allows onlinkactivated to also work..so now we can press on episode links :D
[11:53] <Elleo> nik90: great :)
[11:53] <nik90> Elleo: But I cant figure out why it still shows 00:00 for undefined durations :P..that thing is bugging me quite a bit
[11:54] <lotuspsychje> https://twitter.com/hashtag/ubuntuphone?src=hash
[11:54] <Elleo> nik90: yeah, I'll take a look at that after lunch see if I can spot anything
[11:55] <nik90> Elleo: I will just keep testing the branch to see if there are any other issues I can spot and fix meanwhile
[11:56] <Elleo> nik90: okay, cool
[11:58] * ogra_ wonders if it would make sense to have some framwork similar to the alternate-webapp container for webradio apps ...
[11:59] <ogra_> (with standardized controls ... playlist parsing etc)
[12:03] <lotuspsychje> you know what would be nice, an almost ready webapp so users can drag n drop something and make an app themselfs
[12:04] <ogra_> i'd prefer if the browser had an "bookmark to app" function :)
[12:05] <ogra_> in the burger menu on the top right ...
[12:05] <lotuspsychje> would also be nice
[12:05] <ogra_> essentially the same thing, just inntegrated by default into the browser
[12:05] <ogra_> that would save us from the not-actually-webapps webapps :)
[12:06] <nik90> ogra_: the browser in vivid is so much better..the url bar now acts behaves like a page header where if you scroll up it scrolls as well instead of with a delay like in rtm
[12:06] <nik90> but yeah a bookmark to app would be nice
[12:06] <ogra_> nik90, i still find it awful and jiggly
[12:06] <ogra_> it shouldnt move the webview around when it slides in/out
[12:07] <nik90> ogra_: is it still jiggly for you? It doesn't move the webview around for me anymore in vivid
[12:07] <ogra_> oh, you are right, i'm sure it did the last time i checked :)
[12:07] <lotuspsychje> im happy with devel-proposed webbrowser-app too
[12:07] <ogra_> (that shows how often i use the browser itself i guess :P )
[12:08] <nik90> yeah the browser moving the webview in RTM bugged me quite a bit..happy now though
[12:08] <lotuspsychje> nik90: wich device are you on?
[12:08] <nik90> lotuspsychje: BQ (RTM) and N4 (Vivid)
[12:09] <lotuspsychje> nice
[12:09] <lotuspsychje> nik90: nexus7 on devel-proposed here
[12:09] <nik90> ah N7..pretty cool
[12:10] <nik90> its like a small notebook and feels good
[12:10] <lotuspsychje> nexus7 is a tablet
[12:10] <nik90> yes
[12:11] <lotuspsychje> feels very good
[12:12] <nik90> hmm bug 1445527 is strange..lets see if I can reproduce it
[14:12] <popey> hmm http://imgur.com/XCce0Xq
[14:12] <popey> 23394 phablet 20 0 363596 43472 22008 S 99.4 4.4 341:15.66 telegram
[14:12] * popey files a bug
[14:15] <faenil> popey: ouch
[14:22] * ogra_ LOLs
[14:22] <ogra_> so i just aded audible feedback (a click sound) to the alternate webapp container if you click website links
[14:23] <popey> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/unity8/+bug/1445928
[14:23] <ogra_> using an app with that enabled on vivid nearly makes impossible to read the conten because you always have the volume popup in yur face
[14:23] <ogra_> lovely
[14:23] <popey> ogra_: can you do me a favour and take a screenshot with vol+and vol-?
[14:23] <popey> tell me what the file name is that it makes?
[14:23] <popey> -rw-rw-r-- 1 phablet phablet 423K Apr 19 15:10 screenshot20151019_151011494.png
[14:23] <popey> that's mine
[14:23] <popey> (the YYYYMMDD makes _no_ sense)
[14:24] <ogra_> screenshot20150419_162338910.png
[14:24] <popey> wat
[14:24] <popey> i have loads yesterday that are -rw-rw-r-- 2 phablet phablet 393K Apr 18 09:58 screenshot20155818_095843963.png
[14:24] <popey> like that
[14:25] <popey> I'm on the retail phone here.
[14:25] <ogra_> that month seems a slight bit in the future :)
[14:25] <popey> in fact loking back over the month, none of them are right
[14:25] <popey> http://paste.ubuntu.com/10850919/
[14:25] <popey> haha i see what it is
[14:26] <popey> someone has mixed %m and %M
[14:26] <popey> the minute is where the month should be
[14:26] <ogra_> well, seems fixed in vivid
[14:26] <popey> ok
[14:27] <popey> thanks
[14:27] <ogra_> geez ... tha volume popupp is annoying
[14:27] * ogra_ checks where that MP was with the fix ...
[14:27] <popey> irritating that on the phone, screenshots have a sane format, yet on the desktop our default screenshot app has colons and spaces in the file name
[14:28] <popey> "Screenshot from 2015-04-19 15:27:52" is a stupid filename
[14:28] <ogra_> yes
[14:28] <ogra_> comes from gnome i think
[14:28] <popey> only 3 years ago... bug 1054808 was filed
[14:28] <ogra_> we use the default app iirc
[14:28] <ogra_> well, unity8 will fix that ;)
[14:28] <popey> holy cow they finally fixed it upstream
[14:28] * popey falls over
[14:42] <mariogrip> popey: status on http://kernel.ubuntu.com/git?
[14:43] <popey> ogasawara_: ^ do you know?
[14:43] <popey> mariogrip: ogasawara_ is probably a better person to ask as she is (I think) the biggest consumer of that service.
[14:43] <ogasawara_> popey: we were told Mon
[14:43] <popey> ok, thanks.
[14:43] <mariogrip> ok
[14:44] <popey> sorry it's not sooner mariogrip
[14:46] <mariogrip> popey: it's fine, i have have other stuff while i wait. (like ril)
[14:48] * mariogrip sees that the grammar is way off after he presses the "enter" key
[14:50] <ogra_> file a bug against the keyboard then :)
[14:51] <mariogrip> ogra_: :P
[15:09] <faenil> took some pictures with flash last evening...auto white balancing of close subjects is completely nuts :D is the white balancing done in qtmultimedia plugins? or is it at a lower level?
[15:09] <faenil> (BQ -> devel-proposed)
[15:11] <ogra_> faenil, you should ask Kaleo during the week ...
[15:11] <faenil> ok, thanks ;)
[15:20] <faenil> woah, vibrator got stuck while receiving a notification, I read about this in this chat already, iirc
[15:23] <ogra_> yeah, fix is ready, needs to land
[16:03] <faenil> ogra_: ok thanks
[16:45] <faenil> ouch, hard reboot at the end of a phonecall
[16:45] <faenil> :/
[17:07] <Sleep_Walker> 1] How can I set up tethering?
[17:07] <Sleep_Walker> 2] I still haven't connected to Aquaris through adb shell, device is not visible in `adb devices' - what can be wrong?
[17:08] <Sleep_Walker> android devices are visible...
[17:08] <Sleep_Walker> yes, I enabled developer access
[17:14] <SturmFlut> Sleep_Walker: ADB shell will only work if the device is unlocked
[17:15] <Sleep_Walker> what is unlocking in this context?
[17:15] <ogra_> screen unlockin
[17:15] <ogra_> g
[17:16] <Sleep_Walker> OK, I unplugged and plugged again with unlocked screen - no change...
[17:17] <ogra_> where doesthe adb on your PC come from ?
[17:17] <Sleep_Walker> ugh
[17:17] <Sleep_Walker> it's a bit complicated :)
[17:18] <Sleep_Walker> openSUSE package android-tools run through altered LD_LIBRARY_PATH from different root filesystem
[17:18] <ogra_> well, if it isnt from the phablet-tools PPA or from a recent ubuntu archive package (utopic and vivid should work out of the box) then you might need to restart the adb server on the PC with sudo
[17:19] <ogra_> the package ships udev rules that you might miss ...
[17:19] <Sleep_Walker> good point
[17:19] <ogra_> adb kill-server; sudo adb devices
[17:19] <Sleep_Walker> nope, I wrote the rule myself
[17:19] <ogra_> ... and then try adb shell again
[17:20] <Sleep_Walker> it doesn't seem to be the problem either
[17:20] <ogra_> (just to rule out any issues with the rule)
[17:21] <ogra_> are you sure that setup you run there has full access to /dev ?
[17:22] <ogra_> developer mode works definitely fine with an ubuntu host ... (teh daily device test run through that, it woould ring a lot of alarm bells if that broke)
[17:23] <ogra_> tethering: androoid-gadget-service enable rndis
[17:23] <ogra_> you can run that in the terminal-app
[17:24] <ogra_> (only tested on ubuntu, not sure if/how suses network manager gets along with that)
[17:24] <ogra_> oh, "android-gadget-service" (one o )
[17:24] <Sleep_Walker> rndis is cable protocol - is there some wifi way?
[17:24] <ogra_> not yet, no
[17:24] <Sleep_Walker> ok
[17:24] <Sleep_Walker> thanks!
[17:25] <ogra_> (being worked on, but there are some driver issues with AP mode that need solving first)
[17:25] <Sleep_Walker> yeah, I can imagine
[17:25] <ogra_> the wonderful world of binary drivers :)
[17:34] <Sleep_Walker> if you say 'being worked on' - where is the VCS to follow?
[18:31] <BOHverkill> Sleep_Walker: i had the same problem with arch
[18:33] <BOHverkill> Sleep_Walker: that worked for me: https://askubuntu.com/questions/601324/bq-e4-5-adb-fails
[18:33] <Sleep_Walker> BOHverkill: thanks, I'll try
[18:35] <Sleep_Walker> BOHverkill: oh yeah! thanks!
[18:35] <Sleep_Walker> whitelist of vendors, that makes sense :b
[18:35] <BOHverkill> SturmFlut: np ;)
[18:36] <Sleep_Walker> and, do you know the reasons why I shouldn't install SW using apt?
[18:37] <Sleep_Walker> I noticed the warning but forgot to ask why...
[18:39] <popey> Sleep_Walker: http://askubuntu.com/questions/599488/how-to-install-a-deb-file-in-ubuntu-touch/599489#599489
[18:40] <Sleep_Walker> popey: thanks :)
[18:41] <Sleep_Walker> not that I understand the answer...
[18:41] <popey> you can really only have one package manager in use
[18:41] <popey> the OTA updates is one way, apt is the other
[18:41] <popey> if you use apt, and then OTA update, you may lose your changes
[18:42] <Sleep_Walker> if you mean installed software - it is worth of risk
[18:42] <Sleep_Walker> if you mean user data, it's not nice
[18:42] <sjakie902> today some of my apps lost their icons, does any else had this problem?
[18:42] <sjakie902> http://imgur.com/ClWkgDe
[18:43] <popey> i have seen this
[18:43] <popey> when I switched to vivid.
[18:43] <Sleep_Walker> OTA update is just another snapshot of file system, right?
[18:43] <popey> sjakie902: is this a retail bq phone?
[18:43] <popey> Sleep_Walker: delivered as a diff
[18:43] <sjakie902> retail BQ
[18:43] <popey> hm
[18:44] <popey> you're the third person I have seen mention this, we need to capture this in a bug report
[18:44] <popey> sjakie902: https://bugs.launchpad.net/canonical-devices-system-image/+filebug can you file a bug and give some detail and attach the screenshot please?
[18:45] <popey> i have a feeling I know what it is.
[18:45] <sjakie902> oke i will file a bug
[18:45] <popey> can you let me have the bug number when you do. thanks
[18:48] <Sleep_Walker> has anyone experimented with overlayfs?
[18:48] <Sleep_Walker> hm, no, that wouldn't be nice solution either :|
[18:56] <sjakie902> bug filed #1445979
[18:57] <Sleep_Walker> the solution for packaging duality would be distribute OTA update as full image - I would only loose newly installed packages (I can keep some list in home partition)
[19:01] <Hen_> Hey guys
[19:01] <Hen_> not sure if this is the right place for asking questions about the ubuntu-sdk
[19:02] <Hen_> but I'm having some problems with my device not being detected
[19:02] <Hen_> It's the Aquaris E4
[19:03] <Hen_> and a fresh install of ubuntu 14.04
[19:51] <Azby> Using my new ubuntu bq 😊
[20:11] <ulrichard> Since only few packages are installable with apt-get on ubuntu touch, I would assume they work. But using cryptsetup I always get : "device-mapper: reload ioctl on failed: No such file or directory"
[20:12] <Sebsebsebb> Hi
[20:14] <Sebsebsebb> Purple screen on ubuntu bq phone after turning it off and trying to turn on again or after trying to turn it off
[21:48] <nik90> hmm if only the ubuntu touch store could allow developers to reply to their app reviews
[22:01] <genii> That seems like a large oversight on their part.
[22:06] <nik90> well its in the pipeline..just not yet implemented
[22:15] <Sleep_Walker> it seems that android version of aquaris has three "buttons" at the bottom of front side
[22:16] <Sleep_Walker> is the HW still there or was removed for ubuntu version?
[22:17] <k1l> the ubuntu version doesnt have a buton on the front
[22:22] <brunch875> they were removed
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[10:47] <mibofra> hi guys, a question. If I use for a porting a cyanogenmod 10.2 instead of the 10.1, this will broke anything with mir?
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[02:45] <PotatoGim> 안녕하세요~
[07:38] <cartes9> 써니님 안녕하세요. 오랜만입니다.
[07:39] <Seony> 안녕하세요. 오랫만이네요 ㅎㅎ
[07:39] <cartes9> 네
[14:07] <AutoWiZ_znc> 안녕하세요
[14:52] <HolyKnight> ㅎㅇㅇ
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[02:30] <likemindead> I'm trying to install Lubuntu on an HP Mini 1000 netbook. I've never done so via USB, always installed from CD/DVD-ROM.
[02:31] <likemindead> I tried both the Startup Disk Creator & UNETbootIN.
[02:31] <likemindead> Using a 4GB jump drive in FAT32.
[02:31] <likemindead> The netbook begins to boot from USB each time, then just goes to a black screen. Nothing.
[02:31] <likemindead> Ideas?
[02:35] <ianorlin> likemindead: what kind of graphics on the hp mini?
[02:35] <ianorlin> !nomodeset
[02:36] <likemindead> Will look. Thanks!
[13:36] <position> hi
[13:36] <position> anyone uses plank or docky in lubuntu?
[15:15] <position> which is the default window manager in lubuntu?
[15:25] <krytarik> position: Openbox.
[20:59] <penguin1263> lubuntu is great for servers :p
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