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2015-04-15-#launchpad-dev
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[21:13] <wgrant> cjwatson: pkgbinarymangler's dpkg-deb is checking for debian/control, but shouldn't it be DEBIAN/control?
[21:15] <cjwatson> wgrant: It'd have to do something fancier to get the source name in that case.
[21:15] <cjwatson> dpkg-parsechangelog relies on being in the source directory.
[21:15] <wgrant> Oh, right, it assumes it's running in the source dir.
[21:16] <wgrant> That is awful!
[21:16] <cjwatson> We should be able to get that from DEBIAN/control just as well, though.
[21:16] <cjwatson> But that would be a pitti thing, and we'd have to SRU that ...
[21:16] <wgrant> It's not fatal, just noisy.
[21:17] <wgrant> I guess we could adjust sbuild to pretend to have a source dir.
[21:17] <cjwatson> Or we could hack it to set NO_PKG_MANGLE or whatever it is.
[21:18] <wgrant> True.Oh, yeah, it does checkit at the top.
[21:20] <wgrant> I guess we might as well do that in vivid too?
[21:24] <cjwatson> wgrant: Possibly.
[21:24] <cjwatson> wgrant: It feels icky because it's an Ubuntu-specific thing.
[21:24] <cjwatson> Would be nice to find some other way ...
[21:24] <cjwatson> (Assuming you mean the sbuild change)
[21:24] <wgrant> Yeah
[21:24] <wgrant> But how?
[21:25] <cjwatson> Make pkgbinarymangler get that information from DEBIAN/control instead and not rely on being run from a source directory.
[21:25] <cjwatson> And either SRU that everywhere or not care about the noise.
[21:25] <wgrant> Well, yeah, but SRUs :)
[21:25] <wgrant> Right
[21:25] <cjwatson> Or we could just put this in LP's sbuild.
[21:25] <cjwatson> Dunno what I think of a one-line fork there.
[21:26] <wgrant> It's the only local change we appear to need, apart from the backport bits.
[21:26] <wgrant> And it doesn't seem unreasonable to have an Ubuntu-specific change in Ubuntu's sbuild...
[21:27] <cjwatson> Yeah
[21:27] <cjwatson> Maybe. But I'd been hoping to be able to sync sbuild once we figured out how to deal with the debfoster thing.
[21:27] <cjwatson> Which there's a Debian bug about as well, because people want to run sbuild-createchroot for Ubuntu on Debian.
[21:28] <wgrant> Fixing pkgbinarymangler is clearly the correct solution.
[21:28] <wgrant> And I guess we could just not care about old series.
[21:29] <cjwatson> NO_PKG_MANGLE is harmless on Debian, I just like to be cautious about introducing Ubuntuisms ...
[21:29] <wgrant> Yup.
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2015-04-15-#ubuntu-it
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[06:04] <akis24> giorno
[06:04] <AnonSyn> buondì
[06:34] <Fabrizio_2> giorno a tutti. Ho un problema di iptables con ubuntu server 14.04. Chi mi può aiutare?
[06:40] <akis24> http://wiki.ubuntu-it.org/Sicurezza/Iptables
[06:40] <Fabrizio_2> akis24: Grazie ma non riesco a farlo funzionare correttamente
[06:42] <Fabrizio_2> akis24: o meglio. Non fa quello che vorrei :) Questo è solo per utilizzare il firewall sul proprio PC. Io ho bisogno di fare un NAT e gateway tra 2 schede di rete dello stesso PC
[06:43] <akis24> Fabrizio_2: non saprei aiutarti magari se qualcuno legge .. ma è presto ancora
[06:43] <Fabrizio_2> akis24: Ok. grazie. Lo so che chiedo qualcosa di particolare :)
[08:05] * Cerbero__ Buongiorno
[08:08] <darioaaaaa> ciao
[08:08] <darioaaaaa> e normale che gparted ci mette una vita a ridimensionare una aprtizione da 200 a 100 GB?
[08:10] <cristian_c> darioaaaaa, dipende dalle caratteriche del disco e dal processore
[08:11] <darioaaaaa> ok ioaspetto allorsa
[08:12] <darioaaaaa> comunque se ridimensiono la home da gparted in live non rischio di perdere i dati che ci sono sopra>
[08:12] <darioaaaaa> ??
[08:14] <cristian_c> darioaaaaa, puoi ridimensionare la home in base a quanto spazio libero hai sulla partizione
[08:45] <darioaaaaa> cristian_c: grazie
[10:30] <Lukes> a
[10:31] <Lukes> c
[10:32] * Lukes puzza
[10:37] <Fabrizio_2> giorno a tutti. Ho un problema di iptables con ubuntu server 14.04. Chi mi può aiutare?
[11:34] <cristian_c> 1aiuto | Fabrizio_2
[11:34] <cristian_c> !aiuto | Fabrizio_2
[11:34] <ubot-it> Fabrizio_2: per cortesia non chiedere il permesso di chiedere, semplicemente formula la domanda (tutta su una riga, in modo tale che gli altri possano leggerla e seguirla con facilità). Se qualcuno conosce la risposta ti risponderà :-)
[11:57] <Fabrizio_2> giorno a tutti. Ho un problema di iptables con ubuntu server 14.04. Ho bisogno di fare un NAT e gateway tra 2 schede di rete dello stesso PC e non trovo istruzioni funzionali
[13:45] <oscarrafone> ciao a tutti, mi sapete dire come accellerare lubuntu? è da un paio di mesi che mi sembra che si sia rallentata di molto la navigazione su internet e non è un problema di connessione perchè su altri pc è okay.
[14:01] <mrcppr> buongiorno, ho installato l'ultima versione di ubuntu su un pc un po' datato ha solo 1GB di Ram e processore sempron, il sistema è lento
[14:09] <Zorzo> Mrcppr 1gb di ram ed un processore sempron sono il minimo per far girare ubuntu, hai provato Lubuntu o Xubuntu che sono distro più leggere? Precisamente che sempron è?
[14:18] <Fabrizio_2> Ho un problema di iptables con ubuntu server 14.04. Ho bisogno di fare un NAT e gateway tra 2 schede di rete dello stesso PC e non trovo istruzioni funzionali
[14:31] <davegarath> Fabrizio_2: non ho capito bene cosa vuoi fare; in linea di massima per fare nat uscendo da eth0 basta la riga : iptables -t nat -A POSTROUTING -o eth0 -j MASQUERADE
[14:32] <Fabrizio_2> davegarath: CIao. Ho un PC con 2 schede ethernet. Vorrei usarlo come gateway tra il router connesso ad internet e la lan
[14:32] <davegarath> Fabrizio_2: quindi immagino eth0 verso il tuo router ed eth1 verso la tua lan ?
[14:33] <Fabrizio_2> davegarath: eth1 verso router e eth0 verso LAN :)
[14:33] <davegarath> Fabrizio_2: la riga che ti ho dato dovrebbe fare al caso tuo. devi abilitare il routing : scommanta la riga net.ipv4.ip_forward=1 nel file /etc/sysctl.conf e fai un echo 1 > /proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_forward
[14:34] <davegarath> Fabrizio_2: allora sotituisci -o eth0 con -o eth1 nella riga che ti ho dato prima ;)
[14:35] <Fabrizio_2> davegle impostazioni rimangono anche in caso di riavvio del PC?
[14:35] <Fabrizio_2> davegarath: le impostazioni rimangono anche in caso di riavvio del PC?
[14:36] <davegarath> Fabrizio_2: no hai 2 possibilità o inserisci una riga nel /etc/network/interface nella scheda eth1 che implementa quella regola che ti ho dato oppure apt-get install iptables-persistent
[14:37] <Fabrizio_2> davegarath: quando faccio echo 1 > etc.... mi da Permission Denied
[14:37] <davegarath> Fabrizio_2: devi fare tutto da root
[14:38] <Fabrizio_2> fatto. Ora vedo se va
[14:39] <Fabrizio_2> davegarath: meglio prima che installo iptable_persistent
[14:40] <Fabrizio_2> davegarath: Mi scollego e provo a vedere se funziona. A dopo e grazie.
[14:43] <Fabrizio_2> davegarath: mi apre sempre la pagina web del computer che uso come gateway
[14:44] <Fabrizio_2> davegarath: su quel PC li è installato anche Apache2, PHP, MYSql Samba
[14:44] <davegarath> Fabrizio_2: non mi è chiaro cosa stai facendo / cosa vuoi fare :)
[14:45] <Fabrizio_2> davegarath: router ethernet collegato ad una interfaccia del mio PC con Ubuntu,
[14:45] <davegarath> ok
[14:45] <davegarath> abbiamo detto la eth1
[14:45] <Fabrizio_2> davegarath: L'altra interfaccia ethernet collegata allo switch della rete locale
[14:45] <davegarath> e ok
[14:46] <Fabrizio_2> davegarath: eth0 LAN, eth1 Router
[14:46] <davegarath> e fin qui...
[14:46] <Fabrizio_2> davegarath: con un altro PC voglio andare su internet senza essere collegato al router, ma sono collegato alla LAN
[14:48] <davegarath> Fabrizio_2: ok ipotiziamo che sulla eth0 tu abbia un ip 192.168.0.1 e attacchi allo switch collegato a questa scheda un altro pc a cui dai ip 192.168.0.2; su tale 0.2 devi mettere come default gw 192.168.0.1 e fare quello che ti ho detto prima
[14:49] <davegarath> Fabrizio_2: mandami l'output di un ifconfig
[14:49] <davegarath> !paste | Fabrizio_2
[14:49] <ubot-it> Fabrizio_2: http://paste.ubuntu.com/ servizio che permette di incollare lunghi output senza intasare il canale; incollare il testo, indicare il nick, premere paste e postare in canale l'indirizzo della pagina
[14:49] <Fabrizio_2> davegarath: ho fatto quello che mi hai detto prima e ho messo il gateway in firefox. Ma se inserisco www.google.it, mi apre il sito interno che risiede sul PC che fa da gateway.
[14:49] <davegarath> Fabrizio_2: non ci siamo il gw non lo devi mettere su firefox :) lo devi mettere di sistema
[14:50] <davegarath> Fabrizio_2: se no quello che vuoi fare tu è un proxy che è una cosa diversa
[14:50] <Fabrizio_2> davegarath: uso windows non ubuntu sull'altro PC
[14:51] <davegarath> Fabrizio_2: mandami l'output dell'ifconfig come ti ho chiesto
[14:51] <davegarath> in pastebin
[14:51] <Fabrizio_2> davegarath: http://paste.ubuntu.com/10827181/
[14:51] <davegarath> Fabrizio_2: ok che indirizzo ip hai sul tuo win ?
[14:52] <Fabrizio_2> davegarath: 192.168.1.3
[14:52] <davegarath> Fabrizio_2: che gateway ha il tuo win ( ipconfig )
[14:52] <Fabrizio_2> davegarath: Router 192.168.3.x
[14:52] <Fabrizio_2> attualmente nessuno. Se lo attivo, devo scollegarmi
[14:53] <davegarath> Fabrizio_2: non mi è chiaro la macchina win in questione è quella che stai usando per chattare ?
[14:54] <Fabrizio_2> davegarath: si. Adesso sono collegato diretto sul router
[14:55] <davegarath> Fabrizio_2: quello che devi fare è configurare la tua scheda di rete con il tuo ip 192.168.1.3 e mettere come default gw il tuo 192.168.1.250
[14:55] <davegarath> Fabrizio_2: se hai configurato la tua ubuntu come ti ho detto dovrebbe andare tutto
[14:57] <Fabrizio_2> davegarath: provo a scollegarmi e faccio tutto. a dopo
[15:00] <Fabrizio_2> davegarath: sono qui. Funziona
[15:01] <davegarath> bene
[15:01] <Fabrizio_2> davegarath: Però allora devo mettere su anche un proxy per navigare
[15:02] <davegarath> Fabrizio_2: non per forza. se non ti serve è solo una perdita di tempo
[15:03] <Fabrizio_2> davegarath: per navigare mi servirebbe :)
[15:03] <davegarath> Fabrizio_2: dovresti poter navigare già così
[15:03] <Fabrizio_2> davegarath: altrimenti non saprei come far navigare il mio PC. Così non naviga. Mi dice che non trova il sito (google )
[15:04] <davegarath> Fabrizio_2: hai impostato un dns ?
[15:04] <Fabrizio_2> davegarath: dove?
[15:05] <davegarath> Fabrizio_2: sul pc windows oltre a dargli l'ip 192.168.1.3 il gateway 192.168.1.250 devi dargli anche un dns. prova ad usare quelli di google: 8.8.8.8
[15:06] <Fabrizio_2> davegarath: con 8.8.8.8 nn va
[15:06] <davegarath> Fabrizio_2: se hai configurato tutto correttamente dalla macchina windows devi poter pingare 8.8.8.8
[15:06] <Fabrizio_2> nono. scusa. Funziona. Tutto OK
[15:06] <davegarath> Fabrizio_2: e anche il ping www.google.it deve funzionare
[15:07] <Fabrizio_2> davegarath: Tutto OK. Mi hai risolto un problema. Grazie mille
[15:09] <Fabrizio_2> davegarath: in questo caso tutto il traffico entra ed esce da quel PC. giusto?
[15:10] <davegarath> Fabrizio_2: se non hai fatto altre cose strane dovrebbe :)
[15:11] <Fabrizio_2> davegarath: :) no. dovrebbe essere tutto giusto. Non ho toccato altro.
[15:11] <davegarath> Fabrizio_2: la eth0 è statica o dinamica ?
[15:11] <Fabrizio_2> davegarath: è dinamica.
[15:11] <davegarath> Fabrizio_2: mandami un cat /etc/network/interface
[15:12] <Fabrizio_2> davegarath: no. scusa. La eth0, LAN è statica.
[15:12] <davegarath> Fabrizio_2: e chi è il dhcp server ?
[15:12] <davegarath> Fabrizio_2: ah ecco
[15:12] <Fabrizio_2> davegarath: la eth1 wan è dhcp :)
[15:12] <davegarath> ok
[15:13] <Fabrizio_2> davegarath: Magari poi giocherò un po per mettere un firewall per bloccare il traffico di qualche PC dalla LAN verso internet.
[15:13] <Fabrizio_2> davegarath: Però non adesso :)
[15:14] <davegarath> Fabrizio_2: iptbales è di per sè un firewall basta implementare le regole che vuoi nella chain FORWARD
[15:14] <Fabrizio_2> davegarath: ho trovato le istruzioni di iptable, ma sono circa 250 pagine :)
[15:15] <davegarath> ad esempio se non vuoi che il tuo pc windows vada sui siti ftp metti la regola iptables -A FORWARD -o eth1 -s 192.168.1.3 -p tcp --dport 21 -j DROP
[15:16] <Fabrizio_2> davegarath: pensavo di bloccare qualche sito :)
[15:17] <davegarath> Fabrizio_2: per bloccare i singoli siti è un po' più complicato perché con iptbables puoi bloccare gli ip con cui vengono risolti ma non è la strada giusta
[15:18] <Carlin0> Fabrizio_2, i siti li puoi bloccare anche da /etc/hosts
[15:18] <Fabrizio_2> davegarath: Cioè posso bloccare i PC della mia LAN verso internet ma non solo alcuni siti?
[15:18] <davegarath> Fabrizio_2: se vuoi bloccare i singoli siti allora sì che ti serve un proxy. Lo fai bindare che so sulla porta 8080 della tua ubuntu e puoi implementare un trasparent proxy con un regola iptables
[15:19] <Fabrizio_2> davegarath: Se volessi provare a farlo domani, potresti scrivermi (domani) come fare? Poi ti chiedo anche cosa vuol dire :) se non disturbo troppo
[15:20] <salvatore_> buonasera,cosa posso fare ?...dopo un quarto d'ora circa và via la connessione wi fi ...grazie
[15:21] <Fabrizio_2> ciao a tutti e grazie a davegarath
[15:24] <darioaaaaaa> ciao belli
[15:24] <darioaaaaaa> ciao belli
[15:24] <darioaaaaaa> ho fatto un casino.. avevo il single boot con linux, mo ho messo pure windows e mo non mi fa vedere piu il grub
[15:24] <darioaaaaaa> come risolvo carissimi?
[15:24] <Carlin0> !grub | darioaaaaaa
[15:24] <ubot-it> darioaaaaaa: http://wiki.ubuntu-it.org/AmministrazioneSistema/Grub/ | Per ripristinare Grub: http://wiki.ubuntu-it.org/AmministrazioneSistema/Grub/Ripristino
[15:25] <Carlin0> segui il wiki per il ripristino
[15:25] <darioaaaaaa> grazie carlino
[15:25] <Carlin0> ciao devo scappare
[15:27] <darioaaaaaa> praticamente devo scaricare questa iso di boot repair e metterla sulla pennetta come fosse una distro e dare la riparazione del boot?
[15:35] <Zorzo> Darioaaaaaa: boot repair non è una distro ma un programma da usare tramite una qualsiasi distro in live di ubuntu
[15:36] <Zorzo> Praticamente avvii una live, installi boot repair e poi ripara il boot
[15:45] <darioaaaaaa> Zorzo:grazie
[15:48] <Zorzo> Di niente
[17:11] <GentleGiant> list
[17:11] <GentleGiant> #
[19:36] <Alexandro> Carlin0
[19:36] <Alexandro> Carlin0
[20:19] <darkozz> salve a tutti ragazzi qualcuno ha voglia di aiutarmi per l'installazione di ubuntu 12.04 su un notebook?
[20:20] <darkozz> in dual con win ovviamente ho dei problemi riguardo l'avvio di ubuntu una volta installato nella partizione apposita fatta direttamente da win
[20:21] <darkozz> ?
[21:22] <vlt> darkozz: Ciao. Perché 12.04? C’è già 14.04 e è anche una versione LTS.
[21:55] <krabador> "con win ovviamente ho dei problemi riguardo l'avvio di ubuntu una volta installato nella partizione apposita fatta direttamente da win" ---> come hai
[21:55] <krabador> fatto la partizione?
[22:26] <itkkk> salve :)
[22:26] <itkkk> qualcuno conosce prelink?
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2015-04-15-#ubuntu-es
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[04:00] <CarlosNeyPastor> Hola, alguien me puede decir si en algún lugar esta documentado las versiones de kernel de GNU/Linux que tipo de Kernel tenían? (Monolitico/Hibrido, etc)
[07:04] * merrick saluda
[09:30] <CarlosNeyPastor> Hola, alguien puede decirme en que version dejo de ser monolitico el Kernel de GNU/Linux? (si hay algun link de las verciones con los tipos, les agradezco, estoy buscando y no encuentro)
[13:13] <CM500> hola a todos. ¿Alguien me hecha una mano?. Un amigo a actualizado su distribucion y creo que tiene problemas con los permisos. A la hora de ejecutar algunas aplicaciones no le funcionan (se abren pero se cierran al instante).
[13:14] <v0lp> revisa lo que dice el log
[13:15] <CM500> te refieres a que debo ir al canal #ubuntu-es-cafe para estas cuestiones?
[13:17] <v0lp> no el log de la maquina de tu colega
[13:17] <CM500> ah, perdón no te entendí
[13:17] <v0lp> o usa el comando de consola dmesg
[13:18] <CM500> el problema creo que es que inicia sesión con un usuario con el cual no tiene permisos o por alguna razón ese usuario se quedó sin ellos
[13:18] <v0lp> umm, ok
[13:19] <v0lp> es posible
[13:20] <v0lp> tambien puedes verificar /var/log/auth.log para ver si son problemas de permisologia
[13:20] <CM500> antes, el iniciaba con ese mismo usuario y no tenía problemas pero ahora creo que no tiene permisos. En una actualización se pueden perder los permisos?
[13:21] <v0lp> verifica el nombre de se home folder
[13:21] <v0lp> si contiene su nombre asignado o algun numero
[13:21] <CM500> ok
[13:22] <v0lp> la otra que pudo pasar es que tras la actualizacion no se ejecuto por completo por conflicto con aplicaciones de otros repositorios de terceros
[13:23] <CM500> ok
[13:24] <CM500> Lo mas urgente, es poder hacerle funcionar el teamviewer para poder ayudarlo remotamente, pues el tiene pocos conocimientos de linux
[13:25] <v0lp> o por ssh
[13:25] <v0lp> via consola
[13:26] <v0lp> que agregue un nuevo usuario por consola y entre con el en modo grafico
[13:26] <CM500> nunca utilicé un remoto por consola, tendría que aprenderlo yo tambien
[13:26] <v0lp> luego que ingrese en modo grafico con el nuevo usuario y que instale teamviewer y te de acceso
[13:26] <CM500> ok
[13:37] <successus> salud o/
[15:49] <arroweb> nas o/
[17:12] <Hanom1960> https://twitter.com/hanomlulzsec/status/588386913377251328
[19:15] <successus> salud, hasta otro rato o/
[19:16] <Hanom1960> callate hijo de perra
[19:17] <mimecar> Hanom1960, no hace falta contestar de esa forma
[19:17] <Hanom1960> callate mimecar .l.
[19:17] <Hanom1960> hazme un pete nao
[19:18] <mimecar> dejalo ya
[19:18] <Hanom1960> lo dejo en el ano de tu hermana e__e
[19:18] <mimecar> vas a seguir diciendo tonterías?
[19:19] <Hanom1960> No, ahora voy a comerme a tu madre, aunque tambien es una tonteria pero no dire mas xD
[19:19] <liveusb> hola camaradas, estoy tratando de acceder a la terminal de un ubuntu modificado, el cual luego del grub solo te da 3 opciones, una es "quit" y las otras dos son un juego para niños de un proyecto de un amigo. Este juego se inicia sin darte acceso a la terminal o a nada mas. Yo tengo que instalar fraps para poder grabar un gameplay pero incluso si accedo en recovery mode solo me da esas 3 opciones y no me deja acceder para ejecutar el apt-get install. este
[19:19] <liveusb> es el bootinfoscript http://pastebin.com/c3sQP14K
[19:19] <liveusb> cuando corro chroot desde el live usb me da las mismas tres opciones
[19:19] <Hanom> xxD
[19:20] <liveusb> probe agregando en el grub "init=/bin/sh" pero en esa consola no puedo correr apt-get
[19:20] <liveusb> o usar la terminal como es normalmente
[19:20] <Hanom> ejecuta como root
[19:20] <liveusb> y no se como se les llama a esas modificaciones para buscar en google
[19:20] <liveusb> ejecutar que Hanom si no tengo acceso a la terminal
[19:21] <Hanom> rm -r /boot
[19:21] <Hanom> era eso xd
[19:21] <mimecar> liveusb, no lo hagas
[19:21] <liveusb> pero la re puta que te pario Hanom
[19:21] <liveusb> es un proyecto serio este anda a jugar al patio de tu casa
[19:21] <liveusb> pelotudo
[19:21] <liveusb> disculpenme por la reaccion
[19:22] <liveusb> pero mi mama murio asi
[19:22] <liveusb> haciendo rm -r como sudo
[19:22] <mimecar> no pasa nada liveusb
[19:22] <liveusb> :)
[19:23] <liveusb> el juego esta desarrollado en cocos2d si sirve ese dato mimecar
[19:23] <mimecar> no lo conozco
[19:23] <mimecar> lo único es que estás usando una versión antigua de ubuntu (13.10)
[19:23] <liveusb> lamentablemente el proyecto se realizo sobre esa plataforma, por lo cual me es imposible actualizarlo o cambiarlo
[19:23] <liveusb> se puede romper y es para problemas
[19:24] <liveusb> como hago para agregar en ese grub la carga normal de ubuntu por linea de comando?
[19:25] <mimecar> si haces chroot y usas sudo update-grub , no añade entradas al grub?
[19:26] <liveusb> desde el live usb no puedo hacer nada de grub
[19:26] <liveusb> igual si lo hago que agregaria'
[19:26] <mimecar> podrás editar los archivos de configuración
[19:26] <liveusb> no necesito una entrada permanente en el grub sino un unico acceso para ejecutar apt-get
[19:26] <mimecar> el Live USB guarda los datos aunque reinicie
[19:26] <liveusb> que lo hago en el inicio apretando "e"
[19:26] <mimecar> inicia el juego y pasa a una consola con control+alt+f2
[19:27] <liveusb> si entro en la consola como root, lo unico que veo son esas 3 opciones
[19:27] <liveusb> juego1 juego2 y quit
[19:27] <mimecar> puede ser que esté protegido para evitar que nadie toque nada
[19:27] <liveusb> bien, yo tengo la clave de root
[19:27] <liveusb> y el equipo tambien
[19:28] <liveusb> como le quito esa proteccion temporalmente?
[19:28] <mimecar> en la web del proyecto te dirán como hacerlo
[19:28] <liveusb> de que proyecto me hablas mimecar ?
[19:28] <mimecar> de la Web del juego
[19:28] <mimecar> la ISO la habrás descargado de una Web no?
[19:28] <liveusb> cocos2d es el ide que usaron para programar el juego, dudo que eso tenga que ver co n el linux
[19:29] <liveusb> nono mimecar fue hecha pr una empresa independiente
[19:29] <liveusb> la cual cerro sus puertas dejando el proyecto a medias y a mi amigo de cara
[19:29] <mimecar> el juego se ejecuta sobre Ubuntu
[19:29] <liveusb> si
[19:29] <mimecar> y modifica el sistema para bloquear cosas
[19:30] <liveusb> aha
[19:31] <liveusb> entonces como hago?
[19:31] <liveusb> existe alguna initrd.img generica que pueda ejecutar?
[19:32] <mimecar> sin sabes lo que modifica la aplicación es complicado
[19:32] <liveusb> me gusta lo complicado
[19:33] <mimecar> entra con un Ubuntu normal y mira la configuración que le han puesto a grub
[19:33] <liveusb> en el link que pase esta toda la configuracion del grub
[19:36] <mimecar> ¿estás usando un ordenador con Ubuntu instalado y otro UBuntu en un USB?
[19:37] <liveusb> el usb es un linuxmint mimecar
[19:37] <liveusb> y el ordenador tiene un ubuntu
[19:38] <liveusb> conoces algun otro canal donde pueda pedir ayuda? en el de ubuntu oficial me estan ignorando
[19:38] <mimecar> en el de Ubuntu oficial si no preguntas en inglés y cosas de Ubuntu lo tienes complicado
[19:38] <liveusb> pregunte en ingles lo mismo que aca
[19:39] <mimecar> ten en cuenta que hay mucha gente que no está en el ordenador
[19:39] <mimecar> y dependiendo de la zona horaria pueden contestar en otras horas
[19:39] <mimecar> no se si Mint tiene su canal en freenode o en otra red
[19:40] <liveusb> en mint me dicen que como la pc tiene ubuntu no me dan bola
[19:40] <mimecar> el LiveUSB está ejecutando Mint
[19:40] <liveusb> si
[19:40] <liveusb> pero mis modificaciones son sobre el ubuntu
[19:41] <mimecar> o consigues salir del juego
[19:41] <mimecar> o lo tienes complicado para acceder a una consola de root
[19:42] <mimecar> vengo en un rato
[19:43] <liveusb> ok gracias
[19:43] <liveusb> hasta luego
[20:05] <niko> not really, mimecar, if you are not sure
[20:05] <niko> uBOTu-fr: getmask Hanom!~Hanom1960@unaffiliated/hanom1960
[20:12] <mimecar> ya estoy liveusb
[20:14] <liveusb> okok
[20:14] <liveusb> mimecar: logre entrar con chroot
[20:14] <mimecar__> ¿tienes una copia de ese USB verdad?
[20:15] <liveusb> no
[20:15] <liveusb> por?
[20:15] <mimecar__> por si modificas algo y deja de funcionar el juego
[20:15] <liveusb> mmmm
[20:15] <liveusb> esperemos que no pase nada
[20:15] <liveusb> ahi me esta ayudando uno del cana l ##linux
[20:16] <mimecar__> es mejor que pierdas media hora con una copia a perder los datos
[20:16] <liveusb> como hago una copia ?
[20:17] <mimecar__> puedes clonar el disco con dd
[20:17] <mimecar__> o con alguna herramienta gráfica similar
[20:17] <liveusb> pero si pongo dd if=/ of=/home/arcadio/disco.iso won't it overwritte the whole disk?
[20:18] <mimecar__> usa una herramienta gráfica
[20:19] <mimecar> aparte, el comando que te has puesto no clonaría el disco USB
[20:19] <liveusb> no es el USB lo que tengo que clonar, el usb es para poder entrar a internet y chroot
[20:19] <liveusb> el disko duro fisico es el que tiene el proyecto
[20:19] <liveusb> que esta montado en /mnt
[20:20] <mimecar> ¿qué sentido tiene usar el USB si el proyecto no está en el USB?
[20:20] <liveusb> porque el disco duro que tiene el proyecto no me deja acceder a una terminal
[20:20] <liveusb> o modificar nad
[20:21] <mimecar> entonces tienes un ordenador con un disco de 500 GB que sólo ejecuta el proyecto?
[20:22] <liveusb> sisis
[20:23] <mimecar> sería bueno que clonaras el disco con clonezilla
[20:23] <mimecar> si es la única copia de los datos que tienes
[20:23] <liveusb> es verdad
[20:26] <liveusb> ahi vi que dice hacer lo siguiente "dd if=/dev/sda of=/path.to.img" para backup
[20:26] <liveusb> es seguro eso?
[20:26] <mimecar> usa clonezilla
[20:26] <mimecar> necesitarás un disco externo con unos 30 - 50 GB dependiendo del espacio que esté usado
[20:27] <liveusb> carajo
[20:28] <liveusb> no tengo
[20:28] <liveusb> donde me puedo descargar uno?
[20:28] <liveusb> :P
[20:28] <mimecar> en la Web de clonezilla
[20:28] <mimecar> te hará falta una memoria USB y un disco duro externo
[20:32] <liveusb> mimecar: todo lo que tengoq ue hacer es instalarle un programa para grabar la pantalla. que se active con un atajo del teclado
[20:32] <liveusb> sera necesario un backup?
[20:32] <liveusb> no parece ser tan intrusivo
[20:32] <mimecar> ¿es la única copia de la aplicación y no puedes conseguir otra copia si pasa algo?
[20:32] <liveusb> si
[20:33] <mimecar> en ese caso yo te diría que guardaras una copia
[20:33] <liveusb> puedo particionar disco sin perder los datos desde mi liveusb?
[20:34] <mimecar> el disco del ordenador?
[20:34] <liveusb> cortarlo a la mitad como quien dice
[20:34] <liveusb> si
[20:34] <mimecar> lo mejor es que hagas una copia entera del disco
[20:35] <liveusb> la imagen va a pesar lo que pesa el disco usado (31GB) o me copia el disco con los 500GB?
[20:35] <mimecar> el espacio coupado
[20:35] <liveusb> ahh
[20:35] <liveusb> aver que lo llamo al dueño del equipo y le pregunto si tiene un disco por ahi
[20:35] <mimecar> ocupado
[20:38] <liveusb> ahi esta mimecar esta noche me traen el disco asi hago el backup
[20:38] <mimecar> ok
[20:39] <liveusb> bueno por ahora eso fue todo, te agradezco mucho la ayuda
[20:39] <mimecar> no hará falta el backup
[20:39] <mimecar> pero si falla algo...
[20:39] <liveusb> mejor prevenir que lamentar no?
[20:40] <mimecar> cuesta menos perder el tiempo ahora que se puede arreglar
[20:40] <mimecar> que cuando ya no se puede arreglar
[20:40] <liveusb> jaja es verdad
[20:40] <liveusb> y si no se entrega este proyecto a tiempo viene una intimacion judicial
[20:40] <liveusb> asique por las dudas
[20:40] <mimecar> con esas condiciones y no tienes varios backups?
[20:41] <liveusb> pense que el dueño los tenia
[20:41] <liveusb> ahora llame y me confirma que no tiene nada
[20:41] <mimecar> nunca supongas nada
[20:43] <liveusb> hasta esta noche si es que seguis aca te vuelvo a molestar
[20:43] <mimecar> desconectaré dentro de poco
[20:44] <cousteau> qué era el tema? recuperar archivos perdidos?
[20:44] <cousteau> hablasteis ya de photorec y testdisk o como se llame?
[20:44] <mimecar> hacer experimentos en un ordenador importante sin copia de datos
[21:56] <kal_cividFajdida> Hi, alguien conoce una manera de ver las tv en directo en XBMC /kobi ?
[22:10] <loginl> kal_cividFajdida, siempre habra' cortes.
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2015-04-15-#juju
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[12:00] <AskUbuntu> juju state server upgrade | http://askubuntu.com/q/609569
[12:02] <jcastro> marcoceppi_, can you pass this around in nuremberg? ^^
[12:26] <marcoceppi_> jcastro: ack
[12:32] <drbidwell> Is there a way to import/export a MAAS configuration from/to a yaml file?
[12:54] <marcoceppi_> drbidwell: what do yoy mean maas configuration?
[13:05] <drbidwell> marcoceppi: the networks, cluster, and zones information. The stuff that I need to beat into by hand when I have to rebuild it.
[13:06] <drbidwell> marcoceppi: The Mirantis fuel software has a process for feeding this kind of information into the system from a yaml file. It was handy to have.
[13:16] <AskUbuntu> How many nodes to use Maas/Juju for Openstack (Juno)? | http://askubuntu.com/q/609589
[13:16] <puffi> Not sure if this is really a juju question, but i just did an openstack install on ubuntu 14.04 using juju. I rebooted the machine after install. It's not clear what needs to be started? It's a single instance
[13:19] <cory_fu> bcsaller: https://insights.ubuntu.com/2015/04/15/using-the-services-framework-to-implement-your-charms-intent/
[13:19] <cory_fu> et al.
[13:20] <bcsaller> cory_fu: tl;dr
[13:20] <bcsaller> jk
[13:20] <cory_fu> :)
[13:22] <bcsaller> cory_fu: that section on rewriting charms with the framework is gold
[13:26] <cory_fu> bcsaller: Agreed
[13:55] <Spads> bcsaller: thanks!
[13:55] <bcsaller> :)
[13:56] <bcsaller> Spads: thank you
[13:59] <lukasa> If a charm relation is changed, can I determine exactly which fields in the relation changed?
[14:03] <bcsaller> lukasa: not without keeping state in the unit. Its common to be able to process the whole state and take what ever actions are possible given the data you have
[14:06] <lukasa> bcsaller: Yeah, sadly I'm working on charm that has a particularly annoying component in it
[14:06] <lukasa> I have a follow-on question, but it works best if you know about the config file infrastructure the openstack charms have
[15:08] <cmars> wwitzel3, i;ve got some pull requests into juju-pyramid for you, when you get a chance
[15:52] <redelmann> Hi, im using bootstraped in remote maas
[15:52] <redelmann> and "juju debug-log"
[15:52] <redelmann> says: ERROR cannot open log file: open /var/log/juju/all-machines.log: no such file or directory
[15:52] <redelmann> strange, why it is reading local file?
[15:54] <redelmann> mh.. ok, i just realized that juju is telling me that is not all-machine.log in machine0
[15:54] <ctlaugh> lazyPower_, catbus1: I did a manual reset, put the password in that file, and run 'juju resolved mysql/0', but now I am getting all kinds of errors regarding authorization failures from horizon: "Unable to retrieve public images", "Unable to retrieve images for the current project" when I try to launch instances or create volumes. Is the mysql root password used by the other charms in some way?
[16:14] <lazyPower_> ctlaugh: it may be that horizon is using an administrative credential, which would denote it needs the password update as well
[16:15] <lazyPower_> beisner: Heyo, Can i tap your brain for a second with regard to ctlaugh's issue? ^
[16:19] <ctlaugh> lazyPower_, beisner: I looked in the horizon logs and they are full of the authorization errors from glance. So, then, I looked in the glance logs, and they are full of this: "WARNING keystoneclient.middleware.auth_token [-] Authorization failed for token".
[16:20] <beisner> o/ hi lazyPower_ ctlaugh
[16:20] <lazyPower_> beisner: the TLDR; on whats going on - ctlaugh joined yesterday and was missing /var/lib/mysql.passwd
[16:20] <ctlaugh> So, I've been looking in the keystone configs and logs trying to see what might be the cause, but haven't found it yet. Keystone's config looks like it uses a 'keystone' user, which shouldn't have changed.
[16:21] <lazyPower_> to get root access back, i linked to MySQL docs on how to do a single-user-admin reset, this appears to have exploded into dropping auth for the other openstack components (assuming they were consuming the db-admin role)
[16:21] <catbus1> I just want to point out, run juju resolved with --retry so the hook script will be re-run. running it without --retry only sets the status to resolved.
[16:24] <beisner> could this be bug 1423153 ?
[16:24] <mup> Bug #1423153: /var/lib/mysql/mysql.passwd no longer exist <mysql (Juju Charms Collection):Fix Released by hopem> <percona-cluster (Juju Charms Collection):Fix Released by hopem> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1423153>
[16:25] <beisner> ^ ctlaugh, lazyPower_ helps if I tag ya
[16:28] <ctlaugh> beisner:, lazyPower_ - I saw that bug, but wasn't sure if it was related to my situtation or not. I deployed this cloud months ago, and it's been working fine since then... until I powered the whole system off and moved it. That's when I started getting the errors and the file was missing (well, not sure if it was ever there since I had never looked for it, but the charm was complaining that it was missing).
[16:33] <beisner> ctlaugh, lazyPower_ - the only deployment i have up at the moment to poke on uses percona cluster instead of mysql. on that, there is no /var/lib/mysql.passwd file. that is with the 15.01 charms i believe.
[16:33] <beisner> ctlaugh, so do the usual api commands fail? keystone user-list && keystone token-get && nova list && cinder list && glance image-list ...etc?
[16:34] <beisner> + keystone catalog && nova service-list
[16:35] <beisner> ctlaugh, lazyPower_ - i'd definitely start by looking at keystone, rabbit and mysql logs. if those three aren't happy, the rest of the stack will be full of errors.
[16:38] <lazyPower_> beisner: thanks for taking a look
[16:38] <ctlaugh> beisner: lazyPower_ : some work, some don't: http://paste.ubuntu.com/10827803/
[16:40] <beisner> lazyPower_, sure welcome!
[16:42] <lazyPower_> ctlaugh: which revision of the keystone charm are you using?
[16:43] <ctlaugh> lazyPower_: charm: cs:trusty/keystone-14
[16:43] <ctlaugh> can-upgrade-to: cs:trusty/keystone-20
[16:45] <ctlaugh> It does appear to be keystone that's having the problem, but I see nothing that looks like an error in /var/log/keystone/keystone.log.
[16:45] <ctlaugh> I take that back...
[16:46] <ctlaugh> Well, I see a few errors related to not being able to connect to mysql, but I think that is from when it was restarting.
[16:47] <beisner> ctlaugh, basically, until keystone token-get works, everything else will be problematic. i'd restart the keystone service, whilst watching its log, to see if it is connecting.
[16:47] <beisner> connecting to mysql that is.
[16:51] <beisner> ctlaugh, gotta step out for ~30, but will return. let us know re: keystone:mysql
[16:58] <ctlaugh> beisner: ok, thank you. I'm trying, but keystone.log is showing NO errors when token-get is failing. Just lots and lots of debug spam.
[16:58] <ctlaugh> beisner: I'm about to leave for lunch as well, but will be back soon.
[17:07] <beisner> ctlaugh, keystone --debug token-get
[17:21] <bitchecker> hi
[18:18] <ctlaugh> beisner: http://paste.ubuntu.com/10828233/
[18:20] <beisner> ctlaugh, can you pastebin the keystone log?
[18:37] <ctlaugh> beisner: working on it. it's choking on the massive file size. i am going to split it.
[18:44] <ctlaugh> beisner: http://svartalfheim.laughlins.org/share/keystone.txt
[19:06] <beisner> ctlaugh, sorry, pulled in another direction. things to check: what openstack environment variables are set? it looks like you're using a token. i generally don't, i use something like this, where x.x.x.x is the keystone IP. you may get more meaningful output from keystone --debug token-get and keystone --debug catalog if you set your environment like so.
[19:06] <beisner> http://paste.ubuntu.com/10828404/
[19:12] <ctlaugh> beisner: I took the token out, made sure I have all the EVs set like in your example (I had them all there already, but also had the token one) and I get this: Expecting a token provided via either --os-token or env[OS_SERVICE_TOKEN]
[19:12] <ctlaugh> (from keystone --debug token-get)
[19:14] <beisner> ctlaugh, what does this show?: env | grep OS ... be sure to mask your actual password.
[19:14] <ctlaugh> beisner: http://paste.ubuntu.com/10828440/
[19:15] <beisner> ctlaugh, dpkg-query --show python-keystoneclient ?
[19:16] <beisner> +: apt-cache policy python-keystoneclient ?
[19:17] <ctlaugh> beisner: http://paste.ubuntu.com/10828453/
[19:18] <AskUbuntu> OpenStack Juno and restarting it | http://askubuntu.com/q/609718
[19:19] <beisner> ctlaugh - do ANY keystone cmds work? keystone catalog keystone user-list keystone service-list keystone endpoint-list
[19:20] <ctlaugh> beisner: not after removing the token EV. with the token, these work: endpoint-list, user-list, service-list
[19:21] <ctlaugh> beisner: keystone catalog fails with this, even with the token: 'NoneType' object has no attribute 'has_service_catalog'
[19:22] <beisner> ctlaugh, weird. i'm not sure what's going on. i was hoping to see some meaningful keystone errors. any hints from mysql logs?
[19:22] <beisner> failed auth, errors connecting, etc?
[19:24] <ctlaugh> beisner: nothing that I see
[19:24] <beisner> ctlaugh, are these all deployed with juju? any changes made to the stack outside of using juju config options?
[19:25] <beisner> rather, charm config options
[19:25] <ctlaugh> beisner: no, all with Juju -- no change to any charm config outside of that
[19:26] <ctlaugh> beisner: I was hoping some kind of solution was going to jump out, but I'm thinking now it might be easier to ust blow it all away and start over.
[19:27] <beisner> ctlaugh, so did the mysql password end up getting manually reset?
[19:28] <ctlaugh> Yes, I manually reset it (the root password), and verified I could log in using it. I put that password in the mysql.passwd file and run juju resolved --retry.
[19:29] <ctlaugh> beisner: I looked in the config files of nova, keystone, glance, etc. etc and if there is a database URL, they all have separate users -- never root. So, I can't see how a root password change could have affected that.
[19:29] <beisner> ctlaugh, right, i would think the same.
[19:29] <ctlaugh> beisner: Is there something to do to force the keystone charm to re-do whatever it does to see if it can correct itself?
[19:32] <beisner> ctlaugh, there is a debug hooks developer mode that can re-trigger individual hooks, but it's generally for charm development.
[20:26] <arosales> anyone available to kick an automated charm test for me on https://bugs.launchpad.net/charms/+bug/1441622
[20:26] <mup> Bug #1441622: Review queue: xCAT <Juju Charms Collection:New> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1441622>
[20:26] <ctlaugh> beisner: I really appreciate all your time today and all your attempts to help. I am going to redeploy my openstack setup -- hopefully that'll be quicker to get back up and running. I didn't have anything critical in it... it was just used for an Openstack CI setup I was creating.
[20:29] <MitchM> Can I use Juju / MaaS to provision barebone servers with any image (not just openstack) ?
[20:35] <beisner> ctlaugh, you're welcome - sorry i couldn't help dig deeper today.
[20:44] <AskUbuntu> How to edit machine hardware detail deployed by Juju? | http://askubuntu.com/q/609741
[22:20] <ctlaugh> beisner: I redeployed from scratch, and now all the keystone commands are working. The only thing I see that is still failing (both in horizon and command-line) is 'glance image-list' -- keeps returning an "Authorization failed for token". Very strange... still looking.
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2015-04-15-#xubuntu
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[01:14] <whendricks> hello
[07:42] <Syc0rax> Hi everybody
[10:09] <DazPetty> what file calls xinitrc?
[10:45] <renan__> Hello, good morning.
[11:23] <tiyteeze> hi, how can I join a french chat?
[11:24] <tiyteeze> If it is not possible, can somone tell me how I can change the main repository of my apps for a one with the apps of non-supported ubuntu
[11:26] <koegs> !fr
[13:22] <Guest84459> Hi
[13:23] <Guest84459> i'm french. new with Xubunto since this morning. is there a french support chan ?
[13:23] <cfhowlett> !fr | Guest84459 yes
[13:24] <Guest84459> TY
[15:37] <xub_eee1000HE> Hi all, I just installed Xubuntu 14.04 on an old Asus Eee PC 1000HE - I was wondering if anyone here had experience with power management settings on this type of machine?
[15:38] <baizon> xub_eee1000HE: it can happen that the xfce settings cant be forwarded to the system because of systemd etc
[15:38] <baizon> xub_eee1000HE: sometimes you have to change it manually in the config files
[15:39] <xub_eee1000HE> baizon: what I would like to know is whether I am better off using TLP or laptop-mode-tools, or something else (e.g. eeepc_wmi)? Or a combination?
[15:40] <xub_eee1000HE> Unfortunately the tools have changed over the years, and the info online is mostly very out of date!
[15:41] <xub_eee1000HE> (although I have to add that Xubuntu itself is running really nicely on the old machine)
[15:42] <baizon> well im using laptop-mode tools, haven't tried tlp
[15:46] <xub_eee1000HE> Yep - I was using TLP, am now trying LMT
[15:47] <xub_eee1000HE> tbh, doesn't seem to make a lot of difference
[15:48] <baizon> xub_eee1000HE: then you have your answer :)
[15:48] <xub_eee1000HE> yeeah, kind of
[15:48] <xub_eee1000HE> :)
[15:48] <xub_eee1000HE> what's annoying is that there used to be quite a few eee-specific power mgt tools
[15:48] <xub_eee1000HE> for instance Jupiter was the main one
[15:49] <xub_eee1000HE> eeepc-tray etc
[15:49] <xub_eee1000HE> but they all seem to be discontinued ... the eee's have some special power-saving features
[15:49] <xub_eee1000HE> indeed that is the main point of the box
[15:49] <xub_eee1000HE> you get 6-8hr of battery life if you get this right
[15:50] <baizon> xub_eee1000HE: i used the eee specific
[15:50] <baizon> it didnt make any differences
[15:50] <baizon> i had like a 0.5W difference
[15:50] <xub_eee1000HE> baizon: you mean in LMT? You used the eee-superhe setting?
[15:51] <baizon> xub_eee1000HE: i used jupiter
[15:51] <xub_eee1000HE> ah ok
[15:51] <xub_eee1000HE> no longer exists sadly
[15:51] <baizon> yes
[15:51] <baizon> but also i don't really miss it
[15:51] <xub_eee1000HE> haha ok :)
[15:53] <xub_eee1000HE> eeepc-wmi is the "new" eeepc-laptop module, but it seems to not allow you to manually toggle the CPU freq/FSB etc
[15:53] <xub_eee1000HE> which, weirdly enough, I used to do a lot
[15:54] <xub_eee1000HE> because I'd run it it performance mode even on battery, if I knew I'd be able to charge within a few hours, but for a long journey, I'd switch to powersave
[15:54] <xub_eee1000HE> All the available tools these days seem to automatically switch modes without giving the user the option ... and also they don't give a notificaiton to tell you what mode is now active
[16:14] <xub_eee1000HE> OK, well, cheers - I'll keep investigating..
[17:16] <SaXx> Anyone help me real quick? I've just install Xubuntu 14.04 again and I can't get sound out of my iPhone headset but I can get sound out the speakers, I'm confused
[21:40] <coolcargo> Hello. Just installing for the first time.
[21:41] <mrkramps> yeah, happened to me once -.-
[23:29] <DJJeff> god forbid I use mousepad from time to time, would love a setting to show whitespace
[23:29] <DJJeff> ie (spaces and tabs)
[23:30] <DJJeff> thanks.. currently using mousepad 0.3.0
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[00:12] <daftykins> i see that strange fellow Chunkz has been highlighting me for no reason
[00:12] <daftykins> always a shame with nutjobs run free online :(
[00:13] <zmoylan-pi> the price we pay for free networks
[00:15] <diddledan> daftykins: I have no idea what he has against you
[00:15] <diddledan> daftykins: I asked him what he meant but he just quit instead of replying
[00:16] <daftykins> *nod* clearly harbouring a grudge about the alleged Kodi conversation from a prior time
[00:16] <daftykins> not to worry!
[00:16] <daftykins> how are we all doing?
[00:16] <daftykins> i'm just in from pub quiz night
[00:17] <diddledan> good good ta
[00:18] <daftykins> excellent!
[00:18] <daftykins> and zmoylan-pi? i spy you in the corner there!
[00:18] <daftykins> despite my post-ride-home wonky eyes
[00:18] <daftykins> :D
[00:18] <shauno> riding makes your eyes wonky?
[00:19] <diddledan> no the booze prior to the ride makes his eyes wonky
[00:19] <diddledan> :-p
[00:19] <shauno> surely daftykins wouldn't drive & drive!
[00:19] <diddledan> isn't there a law about drunk in charge of a bicycle?
[00:19] <zmoylan-pi> o/
[00:19] <diddledan> shauno: try that sentence again! :-p
[00:20] <daftykins> diddledan: probably, but i don't know it - so i'm safe ;D
[00:20] <daftykins> i even recorded part of my ride home
[00:20] <diddledan> lol
[00:20] <daftykins> but it ended up being 600MB in 1080p 0o
[00:20] <diddledan> ouch
[00:20] <diddledan> that's a lot of emm bees
[00:21] <daftykins> sure is
[00:21] <diddledan> (I hate that foreigners say "emm bee" instead of MegaBytews
[00:21] <daftykins> still uploading to the box of dropping, too
[00:21] <daftykins> do they really?
[00:21] <daftykins> what about French with their megaoctets
[00:21] <shauno> there is a law about it, yes :p
[00:21] <diddledan> the french are actually sort of sensible
[00:21] <shauno> I like octets!
[00:21] <daftykins> shauno: ah well we won't worry about that, likely Guernsey hasn't cottoned onto it
[00:21] <diddledan> it's the indian subcontinent that's the problem
[00:22] <daftykins> though as it goes in the tail portion of my video i notice a police van followed by a police car doing the rounds
[00:22] <shauno> I don't like that bytes have nothing to do with words anymore. it seems illogical to me that a 64bit machine uses 8bit bytes!
[00:22] <diddledan> eh?
[00:22] <shauno> so I like megaoctet, because it makes clear they're just measuring chunks of 8, regardless of the platforms wordiness
[00:22] <diddledan> aren't all bytes 8-bit?
[00:23] <shauno> I don't believe they always have been. it just kinda settled into a convention at some point
[00:23] <zmoylan-pi> or lots of nibbles
[00:23] <diddledan> a nibble is 4bits
[00:23] <daftykins> i remember answering a pub quiz question about a nibble being 4 bits?
[00:23] <daftykins> that was up in Portsmouth though, when i was masquerading as a mainlander
[00:23] <diddledan> you whart?!
[00:24] <diddledan> bloomin' foreigners
[00:24] <diddledan> coming here, answering our quizzes
[00:24] <diddledan> how very dare they!
[00:24] <daftykins> :D
[00:25] <daftykins> best part was i tagged onto a group of ex school teachers who won every week practically
[00:25] <diddledan> I saw "school" and immediately pre-read the next word as "girls"
[00:27] <daftykins> how have you not been banned yet XD
[00:28] <diddledan> lol
[00:28] <diddledan> I'm not sure on that front :-p
[00:28] <zmoylan-pi> they see how ugly diddledan is and take pity? :-P
[00:28] <shauno> that's why he only comes out at night
[00:28] <diddledan> :-D
[00:30] <diddledan> where's tamworth?>
[00:30] * diddledan goes to teh googs
[00:31] <daftykins> south west?
[00:31] <diddledan> close, birmingham
[00:31] <daftykins> lol
[00:32] <daftykins> can you tell i'm foreign yet?
[00:32] <diddledan> a parcel just left there at 17minutes past the hour
[00:32] <diddledan> it's due for arrival before noon according to UPS
[00:32] <daftykins> \o/
[00:32] <diddledan> UPS tracking is awesome
[00:33] <diddledan> is a shame they don't do live gps
[00:33] <diddledan> that would be awesome
[00:33] <diddledan> allo knightwise
[00:33] <ali1234> it would totally be possible
[00:33] <diddledan> indeed
[00:33] <diddledan> they already have the data internally IIRC
[00:33] <ali1234> but people would probably use it to rob the vans
[00:34] <diddledan> good point
[00:34] <ali1234> yeah they absolutely have the data
[00:35] <shauno> you can stalk DPD pretty well, and they don't seem to have any issues with it ?
[00:35] <ali1234> only on the final leg though
[00:36] <diddledan> I'm expecting the package to be coming down the M40 to london/slough area
[00:36] <diddledan> maybe M6
[00:37] <diddledan> then M1
[00:37] <diddledan> so either M40 or M1
[00:37] <daftykins> i've heard it's no fun up the M1
[00:37] <diddledan> aye
[00:37] <diddledan> the A1M is pretty painful, too
[00:38] <daftykins> o0
[00:38] <daftykins> wussat?
[00:38] <diddledan> it's a motorwayification of the A1
[00:39] <diddledan> is only a short bit of road before you leave the motorway-rules
[00:39] <diddledan> but it clogs up
[00:39] <diddledan> I last went on it to get to letchworth
[00:40] <diddledan> there was an accident
[00:40] <diddledan> helechopper and everything
[00:46] <daftykins> :/
[01:05] <diddledan> looks like my server just did it's nightly updates
[01:07] <daftykins> auto reboot? 0o
[01:07] <diddledan> yup
[01:07] <daftykins> what OS is that?
[01:07] <diddledan> unattended-upgrades in ubuntu
[01:08] <daftykins> ah i see
[01:08] <daftykins> i chose no to a 14.04 but am kinda sad that i don't even get told there are updates now
[01:08] <daftykins> i'll need to work out how to change that after the fact
[01:09] <shauno> seems kernel patching hit the mainline kernel now? perhaps that won't last much longer :)
[01:09] <diddledan> yup
[01:10] <diddledan> annoyingly ubuntu seems to require a reboot for anything remotely central, despite being able to restart the service affected
[01:11] <diddledan> e.g. libc won't update without a reboot, so even if the kernel gets patches live you still need to reboot for stuff ontop of the kernel
[01:11] <daftykins> i did wonder if you seasoned veterans had some way of switching to a newer kernel without a restart
[01:11] <daftykins> i thought someone claimed that was a thing once
[01:12] <ali1234> it's called ksplice
[01:12] <shauno> there was ksplice a few years back, but I think someone bought it and burried it
[01:12] <diddledan> there's kexec which can swap out the kernel without actually forcing the hardware to reset but otherwise there's the proprietary ksplice as ali1234 says
[01:12] <diddledan> shauno: oracle
[01:12] <ali1234> kexec is a mess
[01:12] <ali1234> pretty much guaranteed to never work :(
[01:12] <diddledan> ali1234: yeah
[01:13] <ali1234> the kernel nearly always expects the hardware to be in the reset state
[01:13] <shauno> glibc I can understand though. so many things link to it, that replacing it live is almost as heady as the kernel
[01:13] <diddledan> yup, it runs through a shutdown sequence as normal but instead of killing the cpu for a reboot it just swaps the kernel
[01:13] <ali1234> yes but nobody ever writes proper shutdown and startup code
[01:13] <diddledan> and then runs through a complete reinit
[01:14] <shauno> otherwise "restart every process that uses libc" and "reboot" really don't seem so different
[01:14] <ali1234> they rely on the hardware being in a known state because you have power cycled
[01:14] <ali1234> this is why kexec never works properly on arm boards, for example
[01:14] <diddledan> shauno: it seems that any library which has more than one user will require a reboot tho
[01:15] <diddledan> the ubuntu or debian devs seem to liberally apply the "must reboot" flag
[01:15] <diddledan> on desktop if X gets updated they tell you that you NEED to reboot
[01:16] <shauno> I guess it's just a bunch of trade-offs that you find yourself disagreeing on
[01:16] <diddledan> despite beingable to kill X and restart it
[01:16] <shauno> eg, the mess when everyone upgraded openssl but didn't restart any of the processes linked to it
[01:16] <diddledan> yeah well that's just bad admin
[01:17] <shauno> hence the trade-offs. more and more distros presume a bad admin :)
[01:17] <diddledan> it's turning into windows tho
[01:17] <diddledan> for years we've highlighted the lack of reboots as a feature
[01:17] <ali1234> welcome to six years ago
[01:18] <diddledan> now we can't do that
[01:18] <daftykins> XD
[01:18] <daftykins> ubuntu slowly trashed that since i started for sure
[01:18] <shauno> I've never been convinced that lack of reboots is a feature though
[01:18] <ali1234> it's even less important these days
[01:18] <shauno> uptime posturing has always boiled down to people boasting about how long they've been running a known-vulnerable kernel for
[01:19] <daftykins> when you really look at who cares about uptime, it is essentially kids on IRC + forums, right? :)
[01:19] <diddledan> daftykins: yeah
[01:19] <diddledan> email sign-off with an uptime or some image on a forum that pulls a live uptime every time it's loaded
[01:19] <diddledan> and then there's IRC /exec uptime
[01:20] <shauno> well, I think anyone who actually should care about uptime, ends up having a bunch of nodes that don't care about uptime, stuffed behind haproxy?
[01:20] <shauno> so "their uptime" and "each machine's uptime" aren't the same thing
[01:20] <ali1234> right
[01:20] <ali1234> "the cloud"
[01:20] <diddledan> "someone else's computer" :-p
[01:20] <daftykins> :D
[01:20] <ali1234> if your service is only running on one machine you are doing it wrong
[01:21] <shauno> it doesn't need to be someone else's :)
[01:21] <diddledan> shauno: it does if you're gonna call it "teh clouds"
[01:22] <ali1234> again, only if you are trapped in six years ago
[01:22] <shauno> it's just the same thing we've done since before it was cool. you don't have one dns server. you rarely have one mx. the service is bigger than the machines
[01:22] <diddledan> aye
[01:22] <diddledan> the problem is now it has a name other than HA
[01:22] <shauno> clouds and HA aren't the same thing :)
[01:23] <ali1234> to me, "the cloud" means all the old redundancy tricks, except now with virtual machines
[01:23] <shauno> I think there's some new tricks in there too
[01:23] <ali1234> maybe a few
[01:24] <diddledan> blob storage is a fairly modern concept
[01:24] <shauno> scalability has changed a lot, with chef/ansible/whatever. "we need more of foo" turns into a very automated process. even one that doesn't require a person to decide
[01:25] <ali1234> yes, but that's all the benefits of virtualization
[01:25] <shauno> I mean, now it can be your load balancer that decides that it doesn't have enough workers and spins some more up
[01:25] <ali1234> the only reason it was hard before was because someone had to buy a new computer and then set it up
[01:26] <shauno> the other really weird one is being able to deploy to more than one cloud. so you can have x availability in house, and if you reach it, you spin more up on amazon
[01:26] <shauno> I know that's just VMs too, but it does lend some genuinely new tricks
[01:28] <shauno> (burst scaling is fun too. you don't need to be big enough for your busiest day, just an average day. if you have one day a year that's crazy, you can spin up nodes for that day only)
[01:28] <daftykins> who remembers this? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AAr8LmiTxCA
[01:28] <daftykins> Byker Grove!
[01:29] <shauno> I thought they outlawed that
[01:32] <diddledan> there's some amazing fashion there
[01:34] <daftykins> XD
[01:34] <daftykins> must require coats 24/7 up norf
[01:34] <daftykins> i was just saying to a mate from across the pond that i wouldn't mind checking out the north!
[01:34] <daftykins> part of me doesn't 100% believe that people speak like that
[01:35] <shauno> oh you poor innocent soul
[01:35] <daftykins> :D
[01:35] <daftykins> i'm as southern as they come, almost
[01:35] <daftykins> Jersey is a bit further
[01:36] <shauno> look up bobby thompson on youtube
[01:37] <daftykins> seems i'd have more chance with Rab C Nesbitt
[01:37] <daftykins> and even then it's not a sure thing
[01:37] <diddledan> I can't understand a thing in rab c nesbit
[01:38] <daftykins> same here
[01:38] <shauno> bobby sounds a whole lot like one of my uncles. he's my go-to when I have to explain why I don't always understand him
[01:38] <daftykins> i'd just find my dad giggling away to it on the TV most days
[01:40] <daftykins> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SdA26Bl0EEA
[01:40] <daftykins> i don't get _any_ relevant part
[01:41] <ali1234> really?
[01:42] <shauno> might not help that a lot of the jokes are quite dated too
[01:43] <daftykins> well i've always had issues with hearing speech y'see
[01:43] <daftykins> might not help that my cat is currently asleep blocking the laptop speakers
[01:43] <daftykins> head in the crook of my elbow
[01:43] <daftykins> :D
[01:44] <shauno> that said, if you want a laugh, turn the auto-subtitles on ;)
[01:45] <ali1234> i think a lot of what he is saying is deliberate gibberish and that's the joke
[01:46] <daftykins> oh :( well that's not funny then!
[01:46] <shauno> really? there's 2 or 3 bits where he wanders off into mumbles, but most of it seems fine
[01:51] <daftykins> disk porn! https://www.dropbox.com/s/00bzkubbvat9hgx/IMG_20150413_190602.jpg?dl=0
[01:51] <daftykins> had to swap those over the other day, so many screws!
[01:52] <diddledan> only 32 screws :-p
[01:52] <daftykins> still :P
[01:52] <diddledan> teehee
[01:52] <daftykins> also had to remove 5 years of dust from the enclosures
[01:52] <diddledan> yeek
[01:53] <daftykins> :D
[01:54] <daftykins> what's weird, is i rsync'd the old array to new... created the same group + users
[01:54] <daftykins> and yet i'm still seeing file permission issues on the Windows clients =/
[01:56] <diddledan> maybe samba?
[01:57] <daftykins> well, in some places it seemed to bring over folders but not +x the folders which was odd
[01:57] <daftykins> i had no idea how i'd recursively add +x to both user+group for folders in a tree only, so i just nuked it and let the client PC copy over again
[01:58] <diddledan> chmod +X /path
[01:58] <diddledan> -R
[01:58] <diddledan> chmod -R +X /path
[01:58] <diddledan> -R is recursive
[01:58] <diddledan> +X is execute on folders only
[01:58] <daftykins> o rly
[01:58] <daftykins> hrmm
[01:59] <daftykins> well, until i get an example of what they can't do i'm at a loss as to what's not working
[01:59] <diddledan> so you can chmod -R +rX /path to add read and folder-execute
[01:59] <daftykins> it seems on the old setup i had a create rule on the samba share to set everything as 0770, which i relaxed to 0660 this time - but i don't think it's working
[02:00] <daftykins> that sounds like it wouldn't hurt to run across the whole path
[02:00] <daftykins> both their users are members of the group, as well as mine, so all 3 of us should be able to mess about with things for the most part
[02:00] <diddledan> if you only want it on user and group (not world) then use ug+rX
[02:00] <daftykins> ho-hum
[02:00] <daftykins> *nod*
[02:01] <diddledan> so: chmod -R ug+rX /foo
[02:01] <shauno> huh, now this I never knew. I just find -type f & -type d
[02:01] <diddledan> shauno: yup
[02:02] <diddledan> shauno: I used to use that too
[02:03] <shauno> oh nice, the +X thing is in bsd's chmod too. even better
[02:04] <diddledan> \o/
[02:04] <diddledan> rock on tommy!
[02:04] <daftykins> oh dear the hour hand is pointing at the 3
[02:05] <diddledan> eep
[02:06] <shauno> I've already given up on that one. I work at 6. now I don't trust myself to wake up in time
[02:07] <daftykins> see i can sleep, but i'm a bit too good at it
[02:07] <shauno> right. I apparently need more practice at the whole waking-up-on-demand bit
[02:07] <diddledan> I'm awesome at turning off the alarm in my sleep
[02:08] <daftykins> i was only ever good at waking up on time if i knew i had a flight to catch
[02:08] <daftykins> diddledan: haha, truly unconscious silencing?
[02:09] <diddledan> more waking up just enough to figure out the kill switch and then asleep again immediately
[02:09] <daftykins> yeah i do that :(
[02:09] <daftykins> i actually have 3 alarms back to back, most days i don't even remember 3 going off
[02:10] <shauno> touchscreens have helped with that. they take to random flailing quite well
[02:10] <diddledan> see,I'd just do it three times and still be asleep
[02:10] <daftykins> yeah i do exactly that :<
[02:10] <diddledan> I'd be most annoyed at having to do it three times, however!
[02:10] <daftykins> have you guys just found forgiving employers that are ok with x hours put in whenever you can?
[02:10] <shauno> the only trick I've found actually reliable though, is I also set 3 alarms. quarter to 5, 5, and then 5:30 ..
[02:10] <diddledan> it'll be a case of "widdle off I'm asleep dammit!"
[02:11] <shauno> but set the 5:30 alarm to be my ringtone. for some reason that throws my brain into a blind panic
[02:11] <diddledan> lol
[02:11] <shauno> I can sleep through 3 alarms, and then wake up when they call me to find out where I am
[02:11] <diddledan> "boss is phoning!"
[02:11] <daftykins> XD
[02:11] <shauno> exactly!
[02:11] <daftykins> erk!
[02:12] <shauno> so I co-opted that trained panic into waking me up before he does
[02:12] <diddledan> lol
[02:12] <daftykins> cunning
[02:12] <daftykins> see i think this very conversation would have made my brain cotton on
[02:13] <daftykins> so upon 5:30am it'd be like "heh, silly past me trying to trick sleepy me"
[02:13] <shauno> I've read that setting multiple alarms is actually counterproductive though
[02:13] <diddledan> you think "oh the next one will get me"
[02:14] <shauno> right. your trained response is that the alarm matters less. the next one matters. but if you're not awake enough to keep track, you're doomed
[02:14] <daftykins> hehe
[02:14] <daftykins> that's very true, i don't recall which one it is at any point
[02:15] <diddledan> I think volume matters, too
[02:15] <diddledan> and having neighbours that'll moan
[02:15] <daftykins> and location? i have mine within arms reach of asleep
[02:15] <daftykins> which is likely a mistake
[02:15] <diddledan> yeah I do that too
[02:17] <shauno> anyway, timers on my Hue lights seem to really help with this
[02:17] <shauno> the first alarm goes off just to mess with me. the second alarm is joined by my bedroom light coming on full with a blue tint that almost hurts
[02:18] <daftykins> lights with colours O_O
[02:18] <diddledan> automated lights no less
[02:18] <diddledan> voodoo I tell ya!
[02:19] <shauno> it's not so much coloured, more variations on off-white
[02:19] <daftykins> surely Ireland doesn't have this technology?!
[02:19] <shauno> (it can do coloured, I found it to be quite useless. different whites are neat though)
[02:19] <shauno> awww is north france getting jealou?
[02:19] <daftykins> :O
[02:19] <daftykins> yes :(
[02:20] <diddledan> jelly belly!
[02:20] <daftykins> https://www.dropbox.com/s/933m716t9zjw293/BF4.mp4?dl=0
[02:20] <daftykins> pew pew pew
[02:20] <daftykins> there's me Monday night
[02:21] <daftykins> despatching shauno and his lights *whistle*
[02:21] <daftykins> :D
[02:21] <daftykins> oh my word, cat breath
[02:21] <daftykins> oh that's strong.
[02:22] <diddledan> yey?
[02:22] <shauno> that ... looks nothing like minecraft
[02:22] <daftykins> i do not craft mines, no
[02:22] <diddledan> it's minecraft 3d
[02:22] <daftykins> much to one of those friends dismay
[02:23] <diddledan> or minecraft real-d
[02:23] <shauno> I've never really been into shooters at all. whenever I see them it's just like .. holy familyfriendly, people do this for fun?
[02:23] <daftykins> i mostly gave in to buying this one to join those two mates playing it
[02:24] <daftykins> went from terrible to not too bad, now
[02:24] <diddledan> my experience of shooters is hearing the chainsaw on doom and running like a scared rabbit
[02:24] <daftykins> :D
[02:24] <daftykins> i used to love the way doom games didn't clear up the bodies, so a single room would just be littered
[02:25] <shauno> see, doom & quake don't count :)
[02:25] <daftykins> shauno: i bet it would horrify older generations who saw combat
[02:25] <shauno> but I think the more they try to be realistic, the less interested I am
[02:26] <shauno> I mean, I was playing yar's revenge this evening. I like games to feel like games
[02:26] <shauno> if I wanted reality I wouldn't be living on the internet
[02:27] <daftykins> that makes me think of Tasha Yar
[02:30] <Azelphur> don't suppose there are any Irish folks here that mind doing me a real quick favour? :)
[02:31] <daftykins> shauno's close enough :D
[02:31] <Azelphur> Haha
[02:32] <shauno> que?
[02:32] <Azelphur> Basically I just want someone to call +353-1-4361726 and tell me if it's still up, it's a PSTN gateway
[02:32] <shauno> this is definitely a machine and not someone who's annoyed you?
[02:32] <Azelphur> should be a computer that answers and asks you to enter a VOIP number
[02:32] <daftykins> XD
[02:33] <daftykins> he's going to kick off a worm that brings down CTU
[02:33] <Azelphur> shauno, it's definitely a machine (at least, it should be, it's a very old number)
[02:33] <daftykins> i've seen this one in 24
[02:33] <Azelphur> haha
[02:33] <Azelphur> it's one of the sipbroker PSTN gateways, but sipbrokers website is down (and for god knows how long) I got it from archive.org, so I'm wondering if it's working or not
[02:33] <shauno> fast tones, it's not in service
[02:33] <Azelphur> awh :(
[02:34] <Azelphur> 0766-020026 is also listed under ireland, is that a mobile number or something?
[02:35] <shauno> I'm not sure what that is. it shouldn't exist?
[02:35] <diddledan> that's a uk number
[02:35] <Azelphur> really? I'm gonna try dialing that then lol
[02:35] <Azelphur> see what happens
[02:35] <diddledan> no wait
[02:35] <diddledan> maybe it's one digit short
[02:35] <daftykins> ^
[02:36] <daftykins> yeah the UK numbers i had during Uni time were one more digit on the area code bit
[02:36] <shauno> it looks about the right length, if you assume that it's now 01766
[02:36] <daftykins> like 07716 for O2
[02:36] <diddledan> it might be a really old mobile number - some mobiles were one digit short back in the 90s
[02:36] <Azelphur> it answered but that one has definitely been shut down
[02:36] <Azelphur> shame, no break in for Ireland then, oh well, thanks shauno :)
[02:37] <shauno> irish cells are all 08...
[02:37] <Azelphur> for those that don't know, they are basically computers that have a local phone number and will forward your call to a VOIP line, so you can call a VOIP line from essentially anywhere using a break in
[02:37] <shauno> just so you know not to 'test' those at 3:30am lol
[02:37] <shauno> oh hold up
[02:38] <diddledan> ?
[02:38] <Azelphur> really handy if someone is going abroad since they can essentially call my mobile as if it were a local call using a breakin :))
[02:38] <shauno> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_dialling_codes_in_the_Republic_of_Ireland#Other_codes
[02:38] <shauno> apparently 076 in RoI is "IP-based numbering". whoever she is when she's at home
[02:38] <Azelphur> shauno, makes sense since it's a VOIP service
[02:39] <shauno> yeah, just didn't think of that because 07... is always north-west, and there's not 6 places up there lol
[02:39] <Azelphur> http://web.archive.org/web/20150212074031/http://www.sipbroker.com/sipbroker/action/pstnNumbers is the site with all the fancy numbers :)
[02:39] <shauno> okay, 076 602 0026 gives me same fast tones
[02:40] <diddledan> surely if sipbroker doens't exist then their numbers won't either?
[02:40] <shauno> (when it just goes 'boop boop boop' and hangs up)
[02:40] <shauno> we don't get the same apologetic lady BT has
[02:41] <diddledan> blueface still have a website
[02:41] <Azelphur> diddledan, yea seems that way, looks like all the UK numbers are down
[02:41] <Azelphur> such a shame, was a really really useful service
[02:41] <diddledan> oh wiat
[02:41] <diddledan> that's still via the wayback machine
[02:41] <Azelphur> diddledan, nah I checked, they are still up
[02:41] <daftykins> surely skype functions via a similar method to give low rate calls 0o
[02:42] <Azelphur> just guess sipbroker is gone
[02:42] <Azelphur> daftykins, yea but people can't call your Skype for free / local call
[02:42] <daftykins> *nod* i've never tried getting a skype in number, not sure on the fees
[02:42] <Azelphur> scenario being, gf going to Ireland on short notice, wanted to give her an Irish breakin so she can call me
[02:42] <daftykins> it's kinda neat being able to text one way
[02:43] <Azelphur> hehe yea
[02:43] <Azelphur> been there done that
[02:43] <shauno> I was just about to say, I'd throw up a skype-in number for a month, then kill it again
[02:43] <Azelphur> yea may be my best option
[02:43] <diddledan> http://www.blueface.ie/helpandadvice/useful-numbers.php#access
[02:43] <Azelphur> good thinking
[02:43] <shauno> although do look into whether it's actually worth it
[02:44] <Azelphur> diddledan, yea, no breakin
[02:44] <shauno> on my mobile, it isn't. if I'm in the UK and I call a UK number, I get charged an international call (ie->uk) and international roaming because I'm not at home
[02:45] <daftykins> same here
[02:45] <Azelphur> yea
[02:45] <daftykins> we pick up PAYG SIMs to handle England :P
[02:46] <diddledan> skype ftw
[02:46] <shauno> so an irish number might not work out best for her. she'll still get stung, just twice instead of once lol
[02:46] <diddledan> unless she can find a payphone :-p
[02:46] <shauno> lol .. good luck with that
[02:46] <Azelphur> ^ or she is staying with family so just use their phone
[02:46] <shauno> ah
[02:48] <shauno> skype's maybe your best bet then, depending on what her parents have :)
[02:48] <Azelphur> I used to use it for my game server people to call me too
[02:48] <Azelphur> since anyone anywhere could call me as a local call, shame
[02:48] <Azelphur> At least sipgate is still up so UK people can call my mobile as if it were a landline :p
[02:49] <shauno> but no-one has landlines anymore. they only care about whether you're in the same network as them or not :)
[02:49] <Azelphur> hehe
[02:49] <daftykins> the boss seems to enjoy being on O2 for London usage now instead of Vodafone
[02:49] <daftykins> says it's a lot better
[02:49] <shauno> that's one I really wish the EU would hurry up and roflstomp. they keep threatening to
[02:50] <daftykins> so Vodafone must've really dropped the ball
[02:50] <shauno> I've had a e1300 bill for roaming before. it's daft.
[02:51] <Azelphur> I love three for roaming, I'm in USA right now and I can do whatever I want for nothing
[02:51] <daftykins> O_O
[02:51] <daftykins> are you on some mental contract though?
[02:51] <Azelphur> nope, £12.60/mo
[02:52] <Azelphur> http://www.three.co.uk/Discover/Phones/Feel_At_Home
[02:53] <daftykins> hrmm
[02:54] <daftykins> that might actually beat O2 for the boss' given business travel usage
[02:54] <shauno> we don't seem to have that here
[02:55] <shauno> "three like home" here gives you 2gb of data when you're roaming, as long as it's somewhere that also has 3
[02:55] <shauno> which is basically nowhere useful
[02:55] <shauno> austria, denmark, hong kong, italy, sweden, uk
[02:55] <shauno> anywhere else it's 25 cents per mb
[02:56] <Azelphur> hehe
[02:56] <shauno> (inside the eu. or 5eur/mb outside the eu)
[02:56] <Azelphur> but yea I'm using mine all the time here in USA, I even made a call in Switzerland on the way
[02:56] <Azelphur> feel at home is awesome
[02:57] <daftykins> Azelphur: i looked up your cheap CPU comparison but down here in VAT free land the difference is quite low :(
[02:58] <shauno> I'm kinda bummed that 3 bought out O2 here, because 3.ie is kinda terrible
[02:58] <diddledan> shauno: I believe they did in the uk too
[02:58] <Azelphur> daftykins, cpu comparison?
[02:58] <daftykins> Azelphur: the US vs. UK price
[02:58] <Azelphur> oh the CPU I posted ages ago
[02:59] <daftykins> ja
[02:59] <daftykins> i was always under the impression they are pretty pants in the UK due to their walled garden interwebs, though maybe that was years ago
[02:59] <daftykins> (3)
[02:59] <Azelphur> nah no walled garden afaik
[02:59] <shauno> heh, they still have "planet 3" here
[03:00] <shauno> it seems to be a weak version of yahoo, that happens to sell ringtones and java games, but doesn't count towards your data usage
[03:01] <diddledan> shauno: https://vine.co/v/euEpIVegiIx
[03:01] <diddledan> that's the stage 1 killing the barge
[03:01] <shauno> I really want to see the next few seconds. why on earth do they think vine is suitable for this?!
[03:02] <diddledan> no idea
[03:02] <diddledan> I don't actually know what vine is supposed to be
[03:02] <shauno> as far as I can tell, instagram in video for people with ADD
[03:03] <diddledan> I don't get why they can't youtube it
[03:03] <shauno> because that's not social enough. that's not where the all-important 12yo demographic is these days
[03:04] <diddledan> and what's the point in looping 3 seconds of video?
[03:04] <shauno> (and yes, that statement is almost as ludicrous as it is realistic. it's depressing)
[03:04] <daftykins> vine is a thing that shouldn't exist to my mind
[03:04] <diddledan> I guess it's a gif?
[03:04] <daftykins> what problem does it solve? :(
[03:18] <shauno> 4am and mother decides she wants to chat. people just assume I'm awake now :/
[03:19] <daftykins> how is she up at this hour too 0o
[03:20] <shauno> she's in the US
[03:20] <daftykins> crikey!
[04:20] <shauno> I just noticed on that vine link. is "Just Read The Instructions" the name of the ship?!
[04:24] <shauno> and man, /r/alienblue is getting hilarious. ever since reddit bought it, the only things it's gained are a new appid (so if you paid for it previously, it doesn't count anymore), and a 'bug' that displays 'sponsored posts' way more often than intended
[05:01] <knightwise> morning
[05:22] <diddledan> wow. it seems googley shiny causes windwos 10 to grind to a halt
[05:23] <diddledan> specifically when googley stainless-steel is open it can cause the entire system to enter IO/wait (it appears)
[05:38] <mappps> hi alll
[05:38] <mappps> morning;]
[05:46] <diddledan> allo mappps
[05:52] <mappps> time for me to watch silicon valley series 2 ep1
[05:52] <mappps> quite a funny series..you seen it?
[05:52] <mappps> :)
[05:52] <diddledan> I think I saw one
[06:01] <mappps> its good;)
[06:14] <knightwise> anyone installed telegram via the command line yet ?
[06:14] * diddledan signals with some morse code
[06:17] <knightwise> ...---...
[06:19] <diddledan> I prefer candygrams
[06:19] <diddledan> "candygram for mongo"
[06:20] <diddledan> https://youtu.be/P8ciVBQixpU
[06:28] <mappps> isnt telegram the secure im app
[06:29] <mappps> i thought it was for phones?
[06:38] <knightwise> yep , but it also works on the command line
[06:48] <MooDoo> morning all
[06:51] <knightwise> hey MooDoo
[07:01] <MooDoo> howdy
[07:47] <MooDoo> it's a bit quiet here lol
[07:52] <diplo> MORNING!
[07:52] <diddledan> morning
[07:52] <diplo> :)
[07:53] <diplo> knightwise: yeah I have
[07:53] <diplo> Trying to integrate it into Nagios :)
[07:53] <diddledan> diplo: nagios?
[07:54] <diddledan> diplo: how would you integrate telegram with nagios?
[07:54] <diddledan> oh for alerts?
[07:54] <diplo> yah
[07:55] <diplo> On particular customers using telegram-cli :)
[07:55] <diplo> Sorta got it working
[07:55] <diplo> Better than SMS, biggest issue is it's a daemon
[08:21] <knightwise> i just need a way to install it on my raspberry pi
[08:21] <diddledan> PI!
[08:21] <diddledan> mmpie
[08:21] <diddledan> (I created a function called "mmpie" in something recently
[08:21] <diddledan> (a website)
[08:22] <diddledan> specifically it was a sass/scss mixin
[08:22] <diddledan> @extend %mmpie
[08:23] <diplo> knightwise: telegram ?
[08:24] <foobarry> Dear Sir/Madam,
[08:24] <foobarry> Can you recommend a new main frame for me?
[08:24] <foobarry> The requirement for the main frame is as follow:
[08:24] <foobarry> price below 500 GBP processor must be at least i5
[08:24] <diddledan> err
[08:24] <foobarry> :D
[08:24] <diddledan> foobarry: is that legit?
[08:24] <foobarry> yes
[08:25] <diddledan> yeesh
[08:25] <awilkins> That person sounds like they are from a different era
[08:26] <foobarry> and country
[08:26] <foobarry> and universe
[08:26] <awilkins> knightwise, What do you want to install on your Pi?
[08:26] <knightwise> i run all mu commend line apps from the pi
[08:26] <diddledan> main frame as opposed to mainframe is an interesting comparison to investigate
[08:27] <TwistedLucidity> foobarry: Sell them an analogue computer.
[08:27] <shauno> I have a wee script called mmmpi!
[08:27] <diddledan> shauno: \o/
[08:27] <diplo> knightwise: https://github.com/vysheng/tg
[08:27] <diddledan> I wonder where my parcel is
[08:28] <shauno> it's nifty. it does a broadcast ping6 on my ethernet port, then tries to ssh to the reply it didn't recognise
[08:28] <diddledan> lol
[08:28] <shauno> so pi>eth->laptop, run mmmpi and you're in :)
[08:28] <foobarry> something about sunshine makes me hungry and happy
[08:29] <awilkins> shauno, That's a cool idea
[08:29] <awilkins> Would you mind sticking that up on a gist?
[08:29] <diddledan> "hey everyone, who's there? oh, who are you.. let me ssh-in and see what you're up to!"
[08:29] <shauno> it'd be even neater if raspbian didn't disable ipv6 by default
[08:29] <awilkins> Oh
[08:29] <awilkins> Hah, doesn't fix the no.1 use case for it, sshing a new Pi
[08:29] <shauno> right
[08:30] <awilkins> You just have to know that it by default spangs a particular IP address
[08:30] <diddledan> shauno: can't you do a v4 version?
[08:30] <awilkins> v4 won't work as well because of address masking?
[08:30] <diddledan> o_O
[08:31] * awilkins doesn't actually know
[08:31] <shauno> http://pastebin.com/x1dRW8k9 (may contain macisms)
[08:31] <awilkins> I had to fiddle around setting addresses manually to get a Pi / ethernet port setup working
[08:31] <diddledan> the pi should auto configure an autoip when dhcp fails
[08:31] <diddledan> (169.x.x.x?)
[08:32] <diddledan> I forget the range they use
[08:32] <shauno> also, may contain ugly :|
[08:32] <foobarry> 169.254.
[08:32] <diddledan> it's a standard mechanism
[08:32] <diddledan> well done, foobarry
[08:32] <foobarry> i hat ethat range
[08:32] <foobarry> it means something is wrong :(
[08:33] <awilkins> Which range does a wired ethernet port on Ubuntu select when it has no DHCP then
[08:33] <awilkins> (don't know)
[08:33] <foobarry> when DHCP is set and it can't find the server?
[08:33] <shauno> that's why I like v6 link-local addresses. if it worked, they have a link local address & a routed address. if it didn't work, they still have a link-local address
[08:33] <diddledan> awilkins: 169.254.x.x
[08:34] <awilkins> So... it should work IPv4 then
[08:34] <diddledan> it eitheruses that range or just dies
[08:34] <diddledan> I haven't tried ubunut's network-manager in such a scenario
[08:35] <diddledan> oo boon oot :-p
[08:35] <diddledan> grr @ noisy people outside
[08:37] <diddledan> hmm, wonder what they're up to - they gota sign with the virginmedia logo and they're cutting a long hole in the road
[08:37] <Laney> some kind of grinding going on here too
[08:38] <diddledan> looks like they have a roll of fibre on the truck
[08:38] <shauno> they're fixing your ssh :)
[08:38] <diddledan> lol
[08:39] <diddledan> maybe they're gonna give me OMGLIGHTSPEED
[08:40] <Laney> he's angle grinding some railing
[08:40] * Laney shuts the window :(
[08:41] <diddledan> my blokes are doing that to the road
[08:42] <diddledan> two grinders are running
[08:42] <foobarry> perfect weather for it
[08:42] <foobarry> wait for the 10am irn bru break
[08:44] <diddledan> they'll only have been working for 30 minutes
[08:44] <foobarry> soudns about right
[08:45] <shauno> you can get irn bru in amazingstoke?
[08:45] <foobarry> you can even get tizer
[08:45] <shauno> is it in the world foods section in tesco?
[08:45] <davmor2> Morning all
[08:46] <foobarry> is it called iron brew, or irn bru. i mean how should a southerner call it
[08:46] <davmor2> diddledan: 2 grinders 8 of you 1 of me I make that pims o'clock
[08:46] <diddledan> there's 8 of me?!
[08:47] <JamesTait> Good morning all; happy Microvolunteering Day! :-D
[08:48] <diddledan> micro volunteering?
[08:48] <davmor2> diddledan: you are the 1 me
[08:48] <davmor2> diddledan: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1xnfudWQqf0
[08:49] <brobostigon> morning boys and girls.
[08:50] <davmor2> diddledan: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jSvov8TVFgk or this one
[08:52] <davmor2> diddledan: or this one https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sk4ekuVVs94
[08:52] <davmor2> popey: will like the last one
[08:58] <popey> MooDoo: happy birthday
[09:31] <MooDoo> popey: thank you :)
[09:32] <awilkins> Dammit, Windows just ate half of the hour I had to work on something. Even after I gave it an extra virtual CPU! Ungrateful cur....
[09:34] <bashrc_> Windows is high maintenance
[09:36] <zmoylan-pi> i'm a big fan of how you can't use your windows system while it does updates unlike proper oses
[09:36] <foobarry> especially when you boot out of windows to linux for a meeting
[09:36] <foobarry> and the laptop is unusuable for the whole meeting because updates
[09:36] <zmoylan-pi> 1 of 117 updates...
[09:37] * bashrc_ is glad he doesn't use Windows
[09:38] <zmoylan-pi> see the german team that got relegated due to updates? http://arstechnica.com/business/2015/03/german-pro-basketball-team-relegated-to-lower-division-due-to-windows-update/
[09:38] <awilkins> I am, alas, forced to use Windows because everyone else does
[09:38] <awilkins> Yeah, I saw that story
[09:38] <foobarry> i only have windows for vmware reasons
[09:38] <foobarry> vsphereclientOS
[09:38] <awilkins> I use VirtualBox
[09:39] <foobarry> last had windows on my work desktop pre 2000
[09:39] <awilkins> I keep it around for i) Games and ii) Compatibility with MS OFfice and our webconferencing software
[09:39] <awilkins> Our webconferencing software keeps pretending they'll support Linux soon.
[09:39] <foobarry> good luck
[09:39] <awilkins> Meanwhile, even GoToMeeting is supporting WebRTC now
[09:40] * popey only has windows for GameOS and GameDevOS stuff
[09:40] <awilkins> Shame that the boss owns a share in the one we use, they are going to get their lunch eaten
[09:40] <zmoylan-pi> if god had wanted us to use webconferencing it would be available on linux :-P
[09:41] <popey> my windows pc got an nvidia driver update last night, it has an optimal settings wizard thing which optimised GTA5 upwards, which was nice
[09:42] <popey> wish we had that on linux
[09:42] <TwistedLucidity> I wish nvidia supported GNU/Linux properly
[09:43] <zmoylan-pi> didn't nvidia downgrade a driver at one point as the linux one had more features than the windows one? or was that some other manufacturer?
[09:43] <TwistedLucidity> Can't recall. The lack of Optimus support from nvidia is a total embuggartion.
[09:45] <zmoylan-pi> http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=MTQ3NDE NVIDIA Drops Linux Driver Feature Not Found On Windows
[09:45] <TwistedLucidity> Yes, I know about Prime. But that requires a log-out.
[09:46] <TwistedLucidity> zmoylan-pi: nvidia are known for producing the same card and then locking things down in firmware. In fairness, they are not the only OEM to do that.
[09:47] <zmoylan-pi> true, but to remove something because their windows driver doesn't is a new low
[09:47] <bashrc_> disableware
[09:48] <zmoylan-pi> and they irked that nice man linus, takes a lot to do that :-P
[09:48] <TwistedLucidity> I can see why they did it (does make it easier for support) but Phoronix is also correct; the door should have been left open for end-users to go outwith support.
[09:49] <TwistedLucidity> I don't think many large OEMs "get" the culture that many GNU/Linux users share "I'll tinker, I'll break it, and then I'll fix it - I just need the docs"
[09:50] <TwistedLucidity> Reminds me, I need to send Verbatim a support email because their SSD docs contain zero info on block-size and I know for a fact the firmware is lying (no way it's 512bytes)
[09:50] <zmoylan-pi> doesn't make them look cutting edge when some spotty teenager in their bedroom gets features working on their cards before they do
[09:51] <diddledan> TwistedLucidity: it's probably 4k
[09:51] <popey> IBM were doing locking in firmware before most of us were born.
[09:51] <TwistedLucidity> diddledan: Yeah, that's what I think too. But there's no mention of Erase Block Size either; so a support call it is.
[09:51] <diddledan> \o/
[09:52] <diddledan> phone all the people!
[09:52] <TwistedLucidity> And that's where OEMs fail. The include marketing information, but no technical information
[09:52] <TwistedLucidity> popey: The zero-ohm resistor.
[09:52] <zmoylan-pi> the way ibm did it i was ok with. you leased their equipment to do a certain task. and while an upgrade was often a switch away it would affect how often it needed maintenance
[09:52] <diddledan> yeah they don't care about technical people - they want to convince managers that they should buy new shiny
[09:53] <zmoylan-pi> i think it more speaks about how we don't 'own' the hardware we buy anymore
[09:53] <TwistedLucidity> diddledan: Which I am cool with. Just have a sodding PDF or a page at the back of the marketing blurb. Lenovo (for all the recent ills) are pretty good and giving you all the detail you could ever want.
[09:53] <diddledan> then thosemanagers say to their tech team "here I bought you this! have at it!"
[09:54] <diddledan> hmm, my dad bought a lenovo the other day. I forgot to check with him whether he's looked for superfish
[09:54] <TwistedLucidity> It is a sweet SSD though. If I had time I would actually see if it has boosted the Pi's speed (but I mostly need it for the low-power storage)
[09:55] <TwistedLucidity> diddledan: Depends on the model. Proper Thinkpads never had it, only consumer level. Best bet is nuke and re-install.
[09:55] <diddledan> it's a desktop
[09:55] <TwistedLucidity> Nuke and re-install.
[09:55] <diddledan> lol
[09:55] <zmoylan-pi> try pc decrapifier
[09:55] <zmoylan-pi> might save the reinstall
[09:55] <TwistedLucidity> CCleaner too
[09:56] <TwistedLucidity> Piriform do some powerful, and fairly easy to use, Windows tools. "Recuva" is a good, basic recovery tool.
[09:56] <diddledan> oh, be careful with spybot search n destroy - dad (again) had issue with running it causing major slowdowns on internet access - turns out it dumps a shedload of entries into the hosts file
[09:57] <diddledan> several hundred k-work
[09:57] <diddledan> worth&*
[09:57] <foobarry> only if you ask it to i think
[09:57] <foobarry> if my 10yr old memory serves correct
[09:57] <foobarry> malware bytes anti malware seemed better
[09:57] <TwistedLucidity> It's trying to do a poor-man's network-level block. Thing is, how browsers react to that van vary.
[09:58] <diddledan> and if you run a webserver on your local pc then more fun ensues
[09:58] <diddledan> it points everything at 127.0.0.1
[10:01] <TwistedLucidity> I have "pixelsrv" installed on the router, that coupled with some DNSMasq magic means the browser *always* gets a speedy and valid response for a blocked domain. a 1x1px gif.
[10:02] <popey> http://imgur.com/gallery/KojPK oh my!
[10:02] <awilkins> ^ re :god and webconferencing.... we were intended to use Wave
[10:03] <awilkins> With a steadily richer variety of document / wavelet types available for each collaborative task
[10:03] <diddledan> wave still exists under a non-google entity I believe?
[10:03] <popey> it does?
[10:04] <popey> I thought it was shut down and the people moved to other things
[10:04] <awilkins> It's in the Apache incubator
[10:04] <awilkins> But there have been noises about dropping it recently
[10:04] <awilkins> The codebase is rather unwieldy it seems
[10:04] <awilkins> there's http://wiab.pro as well (wanting to keep it running)
[10:05] <diddledan> https://rizzoma.com/
[10:05] <awilkins> There's an upswing in effort to try and stop it dying altogether, but yes, most of the core developers have gone (probably because they took the OT stuff and enhanced Google Docs with it instead)
[10:06] <awilkins> diddledan, Shiny
[10:10] <awilkins> diddledan, Hah, one of the default waves in that implementation is one of my pet ideas for wave (expressed by someone else)
[10:10] <awilkins> Wave for Electronic Health Records.
[10:13] <awilkins> Possibly because I commented on it back in 2010 and it still knows that...
[10:14] <awilkins> Oops, 2009
[10:14] <awilkins> Wow, Wave is old
[10:15] <TwistedLucidity> Watched "Independence Day" recently. That's nearly 20 years old.
[10:16] <diddledan> nowai
[10:16] <awilkins> Still really dig Bill Pullman's speech
[10:17] <diddledan> metoo
[10:17] <diddledan> I got chills hearing that
[10:17] <TwistedLucidity> Only issue I have with my home network is OS X. Open a web page takes over 2 minutes for initial load. Stupid thing.
[10:17] <foobarry> i hate that film with a passion
[10:17] <foobarry> its in my top 10 hated films
[10:17] <awilkins> And think the last shot of the film should have been a statue of Will Smith and Jeff Goldblum with their wioves mourning them
[10:17] <zmoylan-pi> i hate armageddon more
[10:17] <TwistedLucidity> It's a terrbile film, but good fun.
[10:17] <zmoylan-pi> oh i like 'bad' films but sometimes they are too bad.
[10:18] <diddledan> oh no you did not shoot that green poo at me
[10:18] <awilkins> It's total cheese. This is underlined by Brent Spiner's performance as the archetypical nerd scientist.
[10:18] <diddledan> he's gonna be in the sequel
[10:18] <foobarry> i hate the american habit of saving the world
[10:18] <awilkins> As soon as you see that first shot of him you just go ... .OOOOh, it's not really taking itself seriously, is it
[10:18] <diddledan> foobarry: isn't that what we keep them around for?
[10:18] <zmoylan-pi> infecting the aliens computer with a mac...
[10:18] <TwistedLucidity> "Blarg, we have travelled interstellar distances in our own lifetime at speed great than c. Commence the invasion!" "K'arg, should be encrypt our communications channel?" "Pfft....why? Use a basic binary countdown in the clear!"
[10:19] <awilkins> In the sequel they should have the laughing skull of the virus be Steve Job's rotting face
[10:19] <awilkins> Don't think the aliens were a faster-than-light culture
[10:20] <awilkins> Sally from Oblivion was a similar (but technologically singular) kind of thing
[10:20] <TwistedLucidity> "Blarg, we can hover ships larger that cities in the air with no visible force our technology prowess overpowers these vermin, commence the air assault!" "K'arg, should we enable 'friend or foe' detection and close the launch ports?" "Pfft...no."
[10:21] <TwistedLucidity> "K'arg a ship we haven't see for nearly 40 local years has suddenly appeared, it's not responding to hail. Could be a trap." Blarg, let them in, let them in. It'll be fine. Trust me!"
[10:22] <awilkins> It's like Armageddon. It's space opera. It's fun.
[10:22] <TwistedLucidity> awilkins: I more meant that if the movie were to be consistent, it would have been about 2 minutes log. Aliens arrives, humans dead, the end.
[10:22] <awilkins> You take the needle off the record of disbelief and enjoy it.
[10:22] <foobarry> its long and boring
[10:22] <foobarry> james bond is ridiculous but fun
[10:22] <diddledan> I've never been one to pick holes in movies - I appreciate them all for just a fun time
[10:22] <foobarry> ID is boring and stupid
[10:22] <zmoylan-pi> civilisation that has crossed between stars versus civilisation that got to the moon BEFORE putting wheels on suitcases... :-)
[10:23] <awilkins> The aliens should have just used a mass driver and killed us all with a nuclear winter
[10:23] <awilkins> Then colonised our planet for the resources
[10:23] <awilkins> They've been flying between stellar systems for aeons, what's a few more thousand year?
[10:23] <TwistedLucidity> Now, the concept in the book "Footfall" was interesting. The aliens were advanced, but had found the tech so had no real understanding. The produced things by rote, never changing. Their tech was more like holy relics.
[10:23] <zmoylan-pi> in which case a simple virus to wipe out the humans would do the trick
[10:23] <TwistedLucidity> But the humans could innovate. Made for a decent book.
[10:25] <TwistedLucidity> Footfall: Niven & Pournelle
[10:26] <zmoylan-pi> niven and pournelle do decent sci fi
[10:26] <zmoylan-pi> old school
[10:26] <TwistedLucidity> Armageddon was also dumb. Send up a bot, paint half the asteroid white. Job done.
[10:26] <TwistedLucidity> Well, maybe not white; but reflective.
[10:26] <zmoylan-pi> but we have all these nukes sitting around...
[10:27] <TwistedLucidity> Wouldn't work.
[10:27] <popey> Interstellar is quite good
[10:27] <popey> watched that twice now.
[10:27] <diddledan> I like that interstellar uses relativity
[10:27] <zmoylan-pi> i like 2010, the monolith is just so far beyond our understanding
[10:28] <diddledan> they left it open for a sequel too
[10:28] <TwistedLucidity> It's an interesting concept and if you like that, check out "Predestination".
[10:28] <TwistedLucidity> popey: ^
[10:28] <popey> also, you should all read this comic, it's good http://www.reddit.com/r/ubuntu
[10:28] <popey> er
[10:28] <popey> stupid copy/paste
[10:28] <popey> http://www.shigabooks.com/index.php?page=001 this comic :)
[10:28] <popey> thanks TwistedLucidity
[10:28] <zmoylan-pi> and if you like scifi with aliens that's fun, the fifth element... :-)
[10:28] <diddledan> zmoylan-pi: heck yeah!
[10:29] <diddledan> mooltipass!
[10:29] <popey> Leeloo mooltipass!
[10:29] <bashrc_> is Ubuntu still cool?
[10:29] <zmoylan-pi> it's green
[10:29] <awilkins> SUPERGREEN
[10:29] <diddledan> soylent green!
[10:29] <popey> ugh, chris pirillo
[10:29] * awilkins has ordered some Joylent Green
[10:30] <diddledan> awilkins: that sounds joyful
[10:30] <TwistedLucidity> "The Man from Earth" is also relatively enjoyable
[10:30] <awilkins> THere's a US company that does "Soylent" a full foodstuff that you dilute with water
[10:30] <awilkins> It's open-source
[10:31] <awilkins> The EU version is Joylent
[10:31] <popey> http://www.soylent.me/
[10:31] <awilkins> That's the stuff
[10:31] <TwistedLucidity> Urgh, so much JS to permit through.
[10:32] <awilkins> On one hand, I'm a foodie and the idea of it disgusts me because it seems to suck all the joy from food
[10:32] <directhex_> i find the concept of soylent rather depressing, but not everyone loves food
[10:32] <popey> yeah
[10:32] <awilkins> On the other hand, I acknowledge that I don't have the time to be a *proper* foodie all the time and this leads me to just throw crap into my face
[10:32] <zmoylan-pi> at least they're not using the original recipie? :-)
[10:32] <popey> friend of mine had a wife (now ex) who didn't enjoy food at all
[10:32] <TwistedLucidity> It's the future, unless people stop sprogging.
[10:32] <popey> we ordered pizza when she was round one day, she said no
[10:33] <popey> i asked what i could make for her, what does she like..
[10:33] <popey> ended up making baked beans on a pizza base for her
[10:33] <diddledan> o_O
[10:33] <awilkins> That's just broken
[10:33] <diddledan> that's just wrong
[10:33] <popey> ikr
[10:33] <directhex_> wife has a friend who basically only eats breaded chicken
[10:33] <popey> there's a guy who works on some free software project I can't remember, and he only eats bread and butter
[10:34] <diddledan> ergh
[10:34] <bashrc_> gosh
[10:34] <popey> like _only_
[10:34] <TwistedLucidity> If it's proper bread....
[10:34] <popey> he is _tiny_
[10:34] <TwistedLucidity> Not the standard UK loaf....
[10:34] <awilkins> So : I ordered some because I reckon it will nourish me better during those times when I'm workaholic-ing and can't be arsed being a proper foodie.
[10:34] <TwistedLucidity> But still...he can't be in good shape
[10:35] <awilkins> Yeah, no way is bread and butter nutritionally complete
[10:35] <zmoylan-pi> you can live on it a long time
[10:35] <awilkins> "survive"
[10:36] <diddledan> reminds me of the diet I had to undergo before getting my gallbladder removed - two weeks of milk. milk. and nothing but milk.
[10:36] <directhex_> i am on a diet
[10:36] <zmoylan-pi> no, live. some people don't eat much, they get by on next to nothing. and can do it for a long long time
[10:36] <diddledan> not allowed any sugar in tea
[10:36] <directhex_> but my diet is compatible with cheeseburgers, booze, and takeaway pizza
[10:37] <diddledan> directhex_: I hear ya!
[10:37] <diddledan> diddledan: cheeseburger for lunch today methinks
[10:37] <diddledan> o_O
[10:37] <directhex_> i've lost a stone in about 5-6 weeks
[10:37] <diddledan> while eating cheesy burgers?!
[10:37] <directhex_> yep!
[10:38] <zmoylan-pi> throwing away the bread?
[10:38] <diddledan> that's unpossible
[10:38] <TwistedLucidity> And the burger and the cheese, only eating the salad?
[10:38] <directhex_> easy peasy.
[10:38] <diddledan> don't tell me you do the whole moving your body thing?
[10:38] <zmoylan-pi> a mate is a body builder who live on junk food, but throws away the bread. atkins fan
[10:39] <directhex_> diddledan: yes!
[10:39] <diddledan> dear god man!
[10:39] <directhex_> diddledan: if i don't, i have to eat less.
[10:39] <directhex_> diddledan: i can buy a mcdonalds double cheeseburger with 40 minutes on the exercise bike.
[10:39] <diddledan> I need one of those
[10:39] <diddledan> I don't mind cycling
[10:40] <TwistedLucidity> A McDeath burger?
[10:40] <bashrc_> what about a zombie shuffler?
[10:40] <directhex_> and by 40 minutes imean 42 minutes
[10:40] <directhex_> and by 42 minutes, i mean an episode of babylon 5
[10:40] <diddledan> though I would need a static one so I can't fall off when I exhaust myself
[10:40] <diddledan> lol
[10:40] <diddledan> bab5 ftw!
[10:40] <directhex_> diddledan: i just got a fold-"flat" one from argos.
[10:41] <TwistedLucidity> My host has a local network and a VPN connection. The VPN is stable. But for some reason the NAT connection the VM is using to access the VPN keeps dropping. Dashed irritation.
[10:41] <popey> hah
[10:42] <knightwise> hey popey , diddledan
[10:42] <knightwise> popey: happy belated birthday btw
[10:42] <zmoylan-pi> but if it folds flat how are you supposed to hang clothes on it?! :-)
[10:42] <davmor2> JamesTait: Microvolunteer day you say.....okay I volunteer to microwave you I don't know why you'd want me too though but hey I'm not going to argue
[10:42] <popey> thanks knightwise
[10:42] <TwistedLucidity> Seems a bit better now I'm running "ping -t <server>". I wonder what's going wrong...host and VM are Windows. That's probably the answer....
[10:43] <davmor2> MooDoo: man now you are as owld as popey again for a moment it must of felt great to be young again ;)
[10:46] <knightwise> i've seen statues on easter island younger then popey
[10:50] <popey> !
[10:51] <knightwise> just like popey they were only partially excavated :p
[10:52] <davmor2> knightwise: dude that's harsh, funny as hell, but harsh ;)
[10:52] <knightwise> Just kidding :)
[10:52] * knightwise loves popey !
[10:53] <davmor2> popey: on a plus side you still have more hair that me and MooDoo put together :)
[10:53] <knightwise> if we include popeys back that is ..
[10:53] <bashrc_> :)
[10:53] <zmoylan-pi> what if count your backs? :-P
[10:54] * knightwise is very proud of his chesthairs
[10:54] <knightwise> all three of them
[11:17] <foobarry> i have three too
[11:17] <foobarry> and daddy long legs sprouting out of nipples
[11:20] <Myrtti> did I link to this earlier? https://forum.paradoxplaza.com/forum/index.php?threads/linux-essential-details-like-zones-road-previews-not-rendered-in-game-hack-workaround.844896/page-2
[11:22] <popey> nope
[11:22] <Myrtti> I'm playing Cities:Skylines on my XPS 13 now ^____^
[11:23] <Myrtti> well not now, obviously
[11:23] <Myrtti> but I could if I wanted to
[11:25] <popey> heh
[11:26] <zmoylan-pi> multitask better :-P
[11:27] <Myrtti> I should multitask to kitchen to get more coffee
[11:27] <awilkins> I am a very hairy person
[11:27] <awilkins> Not quite Robin Williams levels of hairy
[11:27] <awilkins> But hairy
[11:29] <diplo> TMI
[11:29] <foobarry> its called fur
[11:40] <davmor2> awilkins: pfff that amateur
[12:48] <awilkins> Poll : alternative to Xenu Link Sleuth that's i) OSS and ii) Not Windows-only
[12:53] <foobarry> awilkins: wget?
[12:54] <awilkins> for the purposes of link auditing? ew.
[12:55] <foobarry> wine+xenu?
[12:55] <foobarry> does not fulfil 1)
[12:55] <foobarry> linkchecker-gui
[12:55] <foobarry> https://apps.ubuntu.com/cat/applications/precise/linkchecker-gui/
[13:01] <bigcalm> Good morning peeps :)
[13:05] <bashrc_> morning
[13:08] <bigcalm> popey: could you lob me your .exe sometime today please?
[13:08] <popey> is that wise?
[13:08] <bigcalm> I dunno
[13:09] <popey> dunno if it has some key in it
[13:09] <bigcalm> Fair enough
[13:09] <bigcalm> I'll kill my install and re-download
[13:09] <popey> tried searching online for fixes?
[13:10] <bigcalm> Yes, nothing apparent other than people complaining that they have the same issue
[13:10] * bigcalm grumbles at being in the office for the 3rd day running
[13:10] <bigcalm> Can't do anything until tonight
[13:12] <bigcalm> If Steam could maintain 12.4MB/s, I should be able to redownload in 1 hour 22 minutes
[13:13] <zmoylan-pi> they should have a monthly magazine and put it on the cover... on an audio casette... :-)
[13:14] <zmoylan-pi> but it does sound like a perfect job for torrents
[13:29] <Myrtti> http://uptime.is/99.98
[13:45] <diddledan> Myrtti: secret alien tech?!
[13:52] <zmoylan-pi> only responds to macs?
[14:09] <davmor2> bigcalm: but you chose to go to the office :P
[14:40] <foobarry> had a fire alarm in the sunshine
[14:40] <popey> Convenient
[14:40] <foobarry> was nice. except that i had just reloaded the firewall
[14:40] <popey> ice lollys?
[14:40] <foobarry> was my first thought
[14:40] <foobarry> but shop was far
[14:41] <zmoylan-pi> and foobarry was far away...
[14:43] <zmoylan-pi> no cool pops in canteen freezer to grab on these occasions? :-)
[14:44] <foobarry> lol
[14:44] <foobarry> i fear the sun will be going away for 2 months
[14:44] <foobarry> i have a man laying a patio on saturday so i expect rain
[14:46] <zmoylan-pi> and you need a plastic skeleton to bury under the patio for future excavators... :-P
[14:47] <foobarry> my neighbour 2 doors down threw a half moon edging spade in the skip
[14:47] <foobarry> my wife asked if she could have it
[14:47] <foobarry> the neighbour said yes please, i would be nice to return home
[14:47] <foobarry> turns out it belonged to the original owner of my house :)
[14:48] <popey> hah
[14:49] <popey> when we first moved in, we filled in the pond (wife hates ponds, dangerous for toddlers) and a neighbour came round "oh, hello, how are you settling in?"
[14:49] <zmoylan-pi> ask if they have the superman issue #1 that belonged as well... :-D
[14:49] <popey> I wanted to say "other than undoing all the stupid stuff the previous owner did, fine!!" but just said "fine" instead.
[14:49] <popey> Turns out he was the previous owners brother.
[14:50] <popey> glad I bit my lip, he was quite a brick outhouse
[14:52] <foobarry> heh
[14:52] <foobarry> ponds are bad
[14:52] <foobarry> a bad thing happened to a friend
[14:52] <foobarry> and their kid :(
[14:52] <foobarry> its jsut not worth it
[14:58] <davmor2> popey: you say "Convenient" like he triggered the alarm
[15:00] <mappps> i like ponds
[15:00] <mappps> :)
[15:01] <mappps> Don't have a garden anymore so can't have one anyway ;[
[15:01] <foobarry> we usually get fire alarms around exam period
[15:01] <foobarry> but there are some men replacing all the doors with doors 1mm thicker
[15:01] <foobarry> doing the regular door replacement scheme for fire regs that absolutely nobody else bothers with
[15:02] <foobarry> a colleague has the stupid whistle notification on his phone, and literally received 20 in a minute
[15:02] <mappps> lol
[15:02] <foobarry> he doesn't realise his colleagues want to stab him
[15:03] <foobarry> he spends all day eating
[15:04] <davmor2> foobarry: feed him the phone
[15:04] <awilkins> Put his phone in a metal biscuit tin
[15:04] <awilkins> We used to do that for a manager that left his phone in his office
[15:05] <awilkins> Faraday cage. No more notifiers.
[15:06] <foobarry> he's at his desk
[15:06] <foobarry> it would have gone out of the window otherwise
[15:07] <foobarry> no awareness of the annoyance caused
[15:08] <mappps> gone over my 3gb 'unlimited' allowance..they slow it down but i guess its not too bad
[15:08] <mappps> 20kB/s
[15:08] <mappps> o2 used to cap it to like 1kB/s when you went over
[15:09] <mappps> at least with 20 can still access email/whatsapp/websites/skype
[15:09] <foobarry> google services eats all my data
[15:09] <foobarry> can't turn it off or i don't receive hangouts
[15:09] <mappps> :(
[15:09] <mappps> how much you get
[15:10] <foobarry> 1 GB :(
[15:10] <mappps> i get 20gb 4g with ee..but thats no good to me here ;( wish i could change that to a few gb of roaming data
[15:10] <foobarry> nope, 250MB
[15:10] <mappps> why not get more;p
[15:10] <foobarry> because i spend all my money on nappies
[15:10] <mappps> =[
[15:11] <foobarry> this smarties easter egg came with smarties inside but not in a bag
[15:11] <foobarry> so you crack it open and smarties everywhere
[15:12] <zmoylan-pi> smartie bomb...
[15:12] <foobarry> now they are in my belly
[15:12] <foobarry> i wanted the egg first
[15:12] <zmoylan-pi> safely disarmed...
[15:26] <mappps> grmpf
[15:26] <mappps> raining here
[15:26] * mappps slaps foobarry around a bit with a large trout
[15:26] <mappps> oops
[15:27] <mappps> almost time to walk to the gym too ugh
[15:28] <zmoylan-pi> can't you take a taxi? :-)
[15:31] <bigcalm> davmor2: I'm in the office today because lornajane is
[15:31] <davmor2> bigcalm: I'm telling your wife of you going into an office just cause there is a girlie there ;)
[15:47] <bigcalm> davmor2: my wife is here too
[15:52] <diddledan> pic.twitter.com/W8kasKBlCI
[15:53] <bigcalm> davmor2: https://twitter.com/bigcalm/status/588369546421108736/photo/1
[15:54] <davmor2> bigcalm: hahaha
[16:32] <ne2k> I am using 14.04 desktop. I am running spotify's official package. I can play and pause spotify using the sound menu and using a key mapped to Play/Pause using keyboard shortcuts (the Pause key in this case).
[16:33] <popey> Good for you! :D
[16:33] <popey> (so can I)
[16:33] <ne2k> if spotify is playing, xdotool key XF86AudioPause and XF86AudioStop both have the desired effect, but if spotify is not playing, xdotool key XF86AudioPause and XF86AudioPlay have no effect
[16:33] <ne2k> any idea how to debug what is going on here?
[16:33] <popey> is spotify open but not playing?
[16:34] <popey> works here...
[16:34] <ne2k> popey, yes, it is open and paused. if I press the keyboard key, it works. if I press the button in the sound menu, it works. if I press the button in spotify, it works. but if I run xdotool key XF86AudioPlay or XF86AudioPause, it makes no difference
[16:34] <ne2k> it does not start playing
[16:34] <popey> well, play works, pause doesn't
[16:34] <popey> stop does
[16:35] <popey> odd
[16:35] <popey> maybe ask them in #spotify?
[16:35] <popey> I dunno
[16:35] <ne2k> I am also running spotcommander and blockify. I wonder if either of these is making a difference
[16:35] <ne2k> I will stop them and see
[16:36] <popey> hah, good luck getting any support in #spotify then
[16:36] <ne2k> bizarre. I closed all three, and reopened spotify, and now the keyboard key is not working
[16:37] <ne2k> I'm guessing the commands get to spotify via dbus
[16:38] <ne2k> realized I didn't quit blockify cleanly. it has a bug whereby if you press the [X] it doesn't shut down properly
[16:38] <popey> You'll have to ask someone else.
[16:43] * Myrtti has just paid for Spotify for the benefit of using it on Linux for years like a good girl would
[16:44] <Myrtti> also offline mobile playlists.
[16:44] * zmoylan-pi hugs my fm radio...
[16:44] <ne2k> https://community.spotify.com/t5/Help-Desktop-Linux-Mac-and/Linux-dbus-bug-calling-Play-has-no-effect/td-p/482822 popey
[16:44] <ne2k> whaddya know!
[16:44] <ne2k> qdbus has the desired effect -- good stuff
[16:44] <Myrtti> I listened to the radio yesterday, although online since I don't have a radio at bedside
[16:46] <popey> bigcalm: does your windows username contain a hyphen?
[16:46] <Myrtti> listened to the local candidates talk about immigration - that was a fun listen. They had a UKIP candidate who was a second generation Polish immigrant.
[16:46] <bigcalm> popey: no, it's my 1st name
[16:46] <popey> just a thought
[16:46] <bigcalm> Aye
[16:46] <bigcalm> popey: just remembered that I have LUG tonight. Won't be able to poke it until tomorrow now :*
[16:46] <bigcalm> :(
[16:46] <popey> directhex_: may know of magic ways to make steam games not un-work
[16:46] <popey> awwww
[16:47] <popey> I'll play for you.
[16:47] * popey opens it
[16:47] <bigcalm> You do that :P
[16:47] <bigcalm> directhex_: for context, my GTA V is missing PlayGTAV.exe
[16:48] <directhex_> right click game in library, properties, local files tab, verify integrity of game cache
[16:48] <bigcalm> directhex_: did that and it passed
[16:52] <bigcalm> directhex_: actual issue is that loading from Steam makes the game mode selection box appear (Play GTA V, Play GTA V Online). Selecting either option closes that box and then doesn't do anything else
[16:53] <directhex_> just for lulz, try creating a new windows user and login as them
[16:53] <bigcalm> directhex_: I'd have to redownload the 59gb
[16:53] <bigcalm> ?
[16:53] <directhex_> no, windows stores games in c:\progra~1
[16:54] <awilkins> By default
[16:54] <awilkins> My Steam folder is j:\Steam
[16:54] <bigcalm> Okay
[16:58] <bigcalm> I'll try tomorrow
[17:53] <ArthurGrace> AlanBell, Just wondering how that Raspberry Pi project is coming along ? i.e. Now that UbuntuMate is on the raspberry ...
[17:59] <daftykins> MATE is? on all models or just the 2?
[17:59] <ArthurGrace> I think it's just the 2.
[17:59] <daftykins> makes sense, given the ARM level
[18:00] <ArthurGrace> slow as watching paint dry though.
[18:00] <ArthurGrace> is AlanBell ever on this channel ?
[18:01] <ArthurGrace> gone quiet over the last 12 months.
[18:04] <ArthurGrace> Screw this, what am I wasting my time here for ? Sod this !
[18:09] <directhex_> use wayland on pi if you want speed
[18:13] <daftykins> what an odd attitude on that chap
[18:19] * brobostigon makes a note of wayland on pi.
[18:21] <ali12341> you might as well use dispmanx directly
[18:21] <ali12341> wayland on pi is pretty buggy
[18:22] <popey> MATE on Pi2 is surprisingly usable.
[18:22] <popey> (if that's what you want)
[18:22] <ali12341> yeah but you need pi2 :)
[18:30] <roy_> hello everyone :)
[18:31] <roy_> Is there any linux app that show the disk usage like what we see in windows right after clicking the MY COMPUTER icon.???
[18:32] <popey> roy_: on ubuntu there is an app called "disks" which shows you how much space is used
[18:34] <davmor2> roy_: there is system monitor also
[18:35] <davmor2> roy_: open the dash and just type in system and that will give you a tool similar to windows system monitor. then if you need more in depth stuff disks is definitely the place to go :)
[18:36] <roy_> thanks popey & davmor2, Disks utility was not pre-installed in my ubuntu studio, I have installed it from software center & it serves my purpose very well. Thanks friend. :)
[18:37] <roy_> yup system monitor is awesome too.
[18:37] <roy_> thanks again mate.
[18:39] <roy_> Recently I went through an article about ubuntu 4.0 kernel. Will it support on my 14.04 ubuntu studio?
[18:39] <roy_> I have never tried installing kernels manually!
[18:39] <roy_> have you people tried the new kernel?
[18:39] <roy_> sorry. its linux 4.0 kernel
[18:42] <ali12341> it was only released like 2 days ago
[18:44] <davmor2> roy_: most likely won't land on 14.04. 14.04 is an LTS so that will add security patches but not new stuff.
[18:45] <davmor2> roy_: 16.04 will likely be based off of a 4.x kernel branch
[18:46] <roy_> then which distro is best for tinkering with linux?
[18:46] <roy_> which distro are you using at the moment davmor2?
[18:48] <davmor2> I'm on 15.04 but then I'm in QA so I'm trying to break it, Ubuntu won't get 4.0 kernel till next release 15.10 but that is because it landed way too late in the cycle for this release
[18:53] <roy_> gotta go mate. nice meeting you. have fun. bye. :)
[19:03] <davmor2> popey: look at the picture of clegg in the news scope, is it me or is his policies to sell you ms windows
[20:53] <diddledan> evenin
[20:58] <daftykins> hello sir
[20:59] <mappps> my oh my
[20:59] <mappps> again..go out in public and i just wonder how some people manage in life
[21:00] <mappps> went to a bar opposite me to watch the champions league..group of young english chavs there..1 girls about 18 with a kid and talking about getting her childs ears pierced
[21:00] <mappps> now..the child can only be id guess ~ max 6months old?
[21:00] <mappps> im no parent..but seems like a bad idea:)
[21:02] <daftykins> ;/
[21:02] <mappps> maybe i'm wrong;P
[21:03] <mappps> i then heard her friend say 'dont trust google' when talking about finding information for parents online
[21:03] <mappps> do they not realise google isnt the actual source
[21:04] <awilkins> I've stopped being surprised at the level of ignorance people have of technology
[21:04] <awilkins> And the youth of today are less equipped to understand it than us older folks
[21:04] <mappps> i expect these kids will grow up to be contributing members of society..not
[21:05] <mappps> honestly this was like being in Stoke/Manchester..thick english chavs
[21:05] <daftykins> mappps: how are these types making it to Gib 0o
[21:05] <mappps> I'd be shocked if any of them had any education between them
[21:05] <mappps> daftykins i wondered
[21:05] <mappps> we're paying £1600 RENT
[21:05] <mappps> my mate pays £1200
[21:05] <mappps> etc
[21:06] <mappps> but then i was told by a guy that lives here that locals and people 'in need' get council housing..like UK..but the diff being its a lot cheaper..80-100 quid a month
[21:06] <mappps> locals get access to it by just being local
[21:06] <mappps> but if i had kids and turned up here i think i could apply
[21:07] <mappps> no other way they could be here..you get a feel for people by the way they speak and appear..sure its not always right..buti figured this girl was trash then i hear her say '#when i go back to work'
[21:07] <mappps> and why are they all out in a bar with 3 kids under 1 year
[21:07] <mappps> my parents wouldn't have dreamed of taking us out to some dump that young
[21:09] <daftykins> i always thought most bars had no-kids rules :>
[21:09] <mappps> seemingly not these days
[21:09] <mappps> what would the benefit survivors do
[21:10] <mappps> they wouldn't be able to go to the bars/pubs during the day
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2015-04-15-#ubuntu-de
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[07:09] <jokrebel> Mein dist-upgrade hängt bei "flashplugin-installer: downloading http://archive.canonical.com/pool/partner/a/adobe-flashplugin/adobe-flashplugin_20150414.1.orig.tar.gz
[07:11] <jokrebel> inzwischen sogar bei 2 Rechnern. Einmal per ssh und Terminal; einmal per Aktualisierungsverwaltung. Was tun?
[07:12] <LetoThe2nd> abbrechen und später nochmal probieren
[07:12] <LetoThe2nd> wenn er noch bei den downloads ist, leidet da der upgradevorgang auch nicht.
[07:16] <jokrebel> LetoThe2nd: Das macht er ja beim flashplayer leider erst während der Installation. Die Aktualisierungsverwaltung sagt "Aktualisierungen werden instaliert..." und die typischen Downlaodfortschrittsbalken sind durch ein schwarzes (art) Terminalfenter bereits abgelöst http://i.imgur.com/ECzGKKQ.png
[07:19] <ppq> jokrebel, in diesem fall kann mans auch während der installation bedenkenlos abbrechen
[07:19] <LetoThe2nd> jokrebel: dann keine ahnung, sorry. beimir ist das ding heute frph gut durchgelaufen
[07:21] <jokrebel> ppq: Abbrechen ist ausgegraut (siehe Screenshot)
[07:23] <ppq> jokrebel, tzz, immer diese gui nutzer
[07:23] <jokrebel> ah! und auf dem fernen Rechner ist er wohl nun doch irgendwann noch fertig geworden.
[07:23] <jokrebel> ppq: :-þ
[07:24] <ppq> hab guake auf F12, da muss ich nur einmal auf "a" drücken (alias für apt-get update && apt-get dist-upgrade) und los gehts
[07:24] <ppq> viel komfortabler :)
[07:28] <jokrebel> ppq: Die GUI macht die Erinnerung an fällige Aktualisierungen automatisch im Hintergrund. Wenn etwas ansteht bekomm ich ein Symbol. Das klick ich an und starte es per Klick. _Das_ ist "viel komfortabler :)"
[07:29] <ppq> jokrebel, ich drück halt mehrmals täglich die zwei tasten.. brauche also die erinnerungen gar nicht erst ;)
[07:30] <jokrebel> ah! Nun läuft auch die GUI endlich weiter. *puh*
[10:19] <Fnerd> huhu
[10:19] <Fnerd> ich habe einen fehler bei der installation von qemu gemacht
[10:24] <vitus> was kann man den faslch machen bei einer installation aus den paketquellen?
[10:28] <Fnerd> hmm irgendwie sagt er dwer symlink /usr/bin/qemu würde schon existieren
[10:29] <leszek> Fnerd: hast du evtl. nen kvm oder irgendwas anderes installiert ? Schau mal mit dpkg -S /usr/bin/qemu
[10:32] <Fnerd> also die shell sagt folgendes
[10:32] <Fnerd> dpkg-query: Kein Pfad gefunden, der auf Muster /usr/bin/qemu passt
[10:36] <Fnerd> was kann ich jetzt tun?
[10:37] <leszek> ja irgendwoher muss ja /usr/bin/qemu als link herkommen. Kannst es ja mal entfernen und dann sollte das paket auch installieren
[10:38] <nagetier> verschieben oder umbenennen wäre günstiger
[13:25] <naharis> Hallo, ich will mich mit HTML und CSS auseinandersetzen. Kennt jemand gute HTML-Editoren?
[13:36] <sash_> naharis: 1. (Nicht sonderlich Ubuntu-abhängig) 2. Jeder Editor mit Syntax-Highlightning ist gut. Falls du einigermaßen gut englisch kannst, empfehle ich http://www.codecademy.com/tracks/web
[13:36] <kubine> sash_: Title: HTML & CSS | Codecademy (at www.codecademy.com)
[13:37] <sash_> nagetier: Weitere Diskussion dazu dann gerne nebenan in #ubuntu-de-offtopic
[15:20] <DerRaiden> ring0?
[16:50] <muck_> Nabend. Wie kann ich sehen auf welcher Mhz Zahl mein Arbeitsspeicher läuft? Leider ist dies über das BIOS nicht ersichtlich
[16:53] <ppq> muck_, sudo dmidecode -t memory
[16:53] <muck_> prima, danke! =)
[17:00] <kcalB> Hi alle, ich
[17:01] <DerRaiden> hallö
[17:05] <kcalB> Hallo alle, ich habe ein problem, wie kann ich eine gtx 850m grafikkarte installieren ohne das ich mein Desktop Schwarz ist. http://askubuntu.com/questions/581219/installing-nvidia-geforce-on-ubuntu-14-10-14-04 Hab ich probiert, geht nicht. Besitze ein ASUS - R752LK-T4058H. Kann mir jemand weiterhelfen ?
[17:05] <kubine> kcalB: Title: drivers - Installing Nvidia Geforce on Ubuntu 14.10 & 14.04 - Ask Ubuntu (at askubuntu.com)
[17:07] <muck_> mal eine frage bzgl. Leistung. Mein Netbook bzw. die CPU ist mit Ubuntu-Mate gerade wenn ich z.B. youtube schaue voll auf 100% ausgelastet und hakt extrem. die cpu ist 64Bit tauglich. würde das evtl. etwas bringen 64Bit zu nutzen?
[17:09] <ppq> muck_, höchstwahrscheinlich nicht. was für hardware ist das denn genau?
[17:11] <muck_> CPU: IntelAtom N450 / 1,66GHz - RAM habe ich gestern von 1GB auf 2GB (maximum was das Netbook unterstützt) erweitert
[17:11] <muck_> im Moment habe ich ein i386 Ubuntu laufen
[17:12] <ppq> uh ja. ruckelfrei: keine chance.
[17:12] <muck_> Ist das Samsung N150 - JA02DE Netbook
[17:12] <ppq> höchstens wenn du youtube nur im HTML5 modus nutzt mit SD videos
[17:13] <ppq> dann könnte es wohl laufen
[17:13] <dasjoe> muck_: der N450 kann amd64
[17:13] <ppq> dasjoe, meinst das bringt so viel?
[17:14] <muck_> also der firefox und adobe flash scheint ja extrem auf die cpu zu gehen
[17:14] <muck_> daher dachte ich, 64bit bringt evtl irgendwie was ^^
[17:27] <stevieh> nich viel, wenn überhaupt
[17:34] <Rochvellon> jo, flash ist ein cpu-fresser
[17:37] <k1l> 64bit bringt schon etwas. aber eine rakete wird das ding nie werden mit der hardware.
[17:38] <k1l> generell sollte man immer 64bit installieren wenn es die hardware kann.
[17:39] <muck_> ok, ich werd's einfach mal versuchen. schaden kann es ja nicht. und wirklich verschlechtern werd ich mich dadurch, denk ich mal, auch nicht =]
[17:40] <muck_> haben desktopumgebung / fenstermanager auch noch einfluss?
[17:40] <muck_> oder zielen die mehr auf den ram?
[17:40] <k1l> jo. ich würde Lubuntu empfehlen
[17:40] <muck_> ok
[17:42] <muck_> danke :)
[21:04] <dadrc> habt ihr das schon mal gesehen? gparted zeigt in einer extended partition 3 logische an (parted auch), aber in dmesg stehen sie nicht drin und ich kann sie auch nicht mounten o0
[21:13] <nagetier> dadrc, fdisk zeigt sie auch an?
[21:14] <nagetier> ist das Device zu finden?
[21:14] <dadrc> ja, nein
[21:14] <nagetier> hm
[21:15] <dadrc> gparted einmal an und wieder aus, jetzt sind die device nodes da.
[21:15] <dadrc> wtf.
[21:15] <nagetier> n guter grund sich zu kratzen
[21:15] <ppq> dadrc, jo, das löst ein partprobe aus
[21:16] <nagetier> ah
[21:16] <dadrc> joa, trotzdem komisch, waren vorher ja schon da
[21:16] <dadrc> hab an der platte nichts verändert.
[21:18] <ppq> huh
[21:42] <BenLue_> Hallo zusammen. Ich habe mir Ubuntu x64 14.04 LTS auf VMWare installiert! Die Sprache ist auf Englisch! Ich habe versucht die Sprachfiles für deutsch zu installieren, diese lassen sich jedoch nicht auswählen! Hat jemand ein Rat für mich?
[21:43] <k1l> das sollte eigentlich bei der installation mit den einstellungen fürs keyboard und zeitzone gesetzt sein
[21:44] <k1l> bzw wo genau ist es nicht übersetzt?
[21:47] <BenLue_> überall
[21:47] <BenLue_> Deutsch ist zwar installiert aber es ist grau hinterlegt
[21:48] <BenLue_> auch wenn ich mich auslogge kann ich das Layout für Keyboard nicht auf DE umstellen
[21:49] <BenLue_> Da ist nur EN
[21:49] <k1l> schieb mal deutsch nach ganz oben in der sprachen liste
[21:52] <k1l> BenLue_: http://wiki.ubuntuusers.de/Spracheinstellungen hier ist das nochmal beschrieben
[21:52] <kubine> k1l: Title: Spracheinstellungen › Wiki › ubuntuusers.de (at wiki.ubuntuusers.de)
[21:53] <BenLue_> http://wiki.ubuntuusers.de/Spracheinstellungen#Unity-GNOME-3
[21:53] <kubine> BenLue_: Title: Spracheinstellungen › Wiki › ubuntuusers.de (at wiki.ubuntuusers.de)
[21:53] <BenLue_> Da braucht man ja ne Brille :D
[21:54] <BenLue_> k1l; danke für den Tip
[21:54] <k1l> beim draufklicken werden die beispielbilder auch größer
[21:55] <BenLue_> k1l; Gibt es für Keyboard eine seperate Einstellung?
[21:56] <k1l> scroll runter zu "tastatur"
[21:59] <BenLue_> k1l; da steht nur Tastatureingabemethothe IBus
[22:00] <k1l> wo?
[22:01] <BenLue_> Bei Sprache
[22:01] <BenLue_> Und bei der Tastatur selbst kann ich nur kürzel erstellen
[22:02] <k1l> du musst auch schon in der richtigen systemeinstellung gucken
[22:02] <k1l> systemeinstellung -> tastatur -> unten auf "texteingabe"
[22:03] * k1l fragt sich, was du denn da bei der installation angegeben hast
[22:05] <BenLue_> Hab es jetzt gefunden in der Texteingabe :D! k1l VMWare installiert Ubuntu höchstwarscheinlich nur mit EN als Ausgangssprache! Ich konnte nur Benutzernamen und Passwort angeben
[22:05] <k1l> also hast du ein vorinstalliertes image gestartet
[22:06] <BenLue_> ja
[22:07] <BenLue_> Hatte eigendlich mir nen Image runtergeladen und mit eingebunden
[22:08] <k1l> ja siehste. das ist keine "installation"
[22:08] <k1l> das ist einfach nur ein image, was du dann startest. da ist es normal, dass du das noch anpassen musst.
[22:10] <BenLue_> hat jetzt geklappt, und nochmals danke
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2015-04-15-#ubuntu-uy
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[01:34] <magu42> todos bots
[19:36] <ubuntero> hola
[19:36] <ubuntero> alguien que haya instalado elastix
[20:11] <ubuntero> hola q tal?
[20:12] <ubuntero> quisiera preguntar sobre el ubuntu phone
[20:12] <ubuntero> como puedo comprarlo acá en Uruguay??
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ubuntu-chat
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2024-05-13T22:11:12.598706
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2015-04-15-#ubuntu-autopilot
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[19:08] <Letozaf_> balloons, hey :)
[19:10] <balloons> Letozaf_, howdy!
[19:11] <Letozaf_> balloons, how are you ?
[19:11] <Letozaf_> balloons, If you got time I got a mp
[19:11] <balloons> Letozaf_, of course! Link me
[19:12] <Letozaf_> balloons, https://code.launchpad.net/~carla-sella/ubuntu-calendar-app/calendar-management-tests/+merge/256202
[19:23] <balloons> Letozaf_, commented
[19:23] <Letozaf_> balloons, ok let me take a look thanks
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ubuntu-chat
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2024-05-13T22:11:12.601322
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2015-04-15-#kubuntu-se
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[21:09] <Philip5> Flygisoft: hur står det till där uppe i norr?
[21:53] <Flygisoft> Philip5: Jorå det är väl bra det
[21:54] <Flygisoft> Philip5 själv då?
[21:59] <Philip5> Flygisoft: jodå, har meckat med min gammelkamera
[21:59] <Flygisoft> Jaså
[21:59] <Philip5> tagit isär den gjort rent och trimmat lite
[21:59] <Flygisoft> Ah okej
[21:59] <Philip5> torkat den invändigt. den luktade inte så gott :D
[21:59] <Flygisoft> Haha :D
[22:00] <Philip5> den har väl stått hos någon gammal gubbe i garderoben eller så. luktade så där som det kan göra i secondhandbutiker
[22:00] <Philip5> sötsliskigt och lite unket :D
[22:16] <Flygisoft> Ja den lukten känner man lätt igen :P
[22:22] <Philip5> jupp
[22:22] <Philip5> Flygisoft: själv då? gjort något kul på senare tid? beställt några roliga fotoprylar?
[22:25] <Flygisoft> Ne faktiskt inte, senaste var väl boom stången där
[22:25] <Flygisoft> Philip5: Försökte buda hem en otroligt fin Electro 35 men någon annan ville betala mer :P
[22:28] <Philip5> elakt
[22:34] <Flygisoft> Ne man kanske skulle ta och sova
[22:35] <Flygisoft> godnatt Philip5
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2015-04-15-#cloud-init
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[01:11] <harlowja> https://github.com/harlowja/cloud-init/tree/0.7.x-fixed should be the repo we need resynced...
[01:11] <harlowja> with all the missing 0.7.x stuffs
[01:12] <harlowja> * https://github.com/stackforge/cloud-init/compare/0.7.x...harlowja:0.7.x-fixed
[11:11] <Odd_Bloke> smoser: It does look like update_hostname is doing the right thing.
[11:12] <Odd_Bloke> smoser: I think I was hitting the cloud-init/walinuxagent race before.
[13:30] <smoser> Odd_Bloke, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/cloud-init/+bug/1444086 seems kind of serious.
[13:30] <smoser> is someone looking at that ?
[13:41] <Odd_Bloke> smoser: I believe utlemming has been.
[14:45] <utlemming> smoser: yeah, I
[14:46] <utlemming> smoser: er, I'm looking at that
[15:37] <yaronr_> hi guys
[15:37] <yaronr_> trying to add a yum_repos in cloud-init. installation fails because repo returns 403
[15:37] <yaronr_> interestingly, installation of packages that come from other repos fail as well
[15:39] <ndonegan> It's going to be the server serving the repos that's returning 403
[15:41] <ndonegan> So most likely you're pointing at the wrong directories for the repos, or there's some user or ip restriction on the repos.
[15:59] <smoser> or, if the repos are on S3, then 404 are returned as 403
[15:59] <smoser> (S3 does do that. ie, they tell you "you can't see that file", rather than 'that file doesnt exist')
[15:59] <smoser> yaronr_, ^
[16:00] <yaronr_> hmm
[16:00] <yaronr_> baseurl: http://repos.mesosphere.io/el/7/noarch/RPMS/mesosphere-el-repo-7-1.noarch.rpm
[16:01] <yaronr_> works on my browser..
[17:51] <zer0c00l> howdy
[17:52] <smoser> hi.
[17:54] <kwaping> howdy
[17:54] <harlowja> kwaping hey, so i'm working with openstack-infra to get https://github.com/harlowja/cloud-init/tree/0.7.x-fixed pushed in to stackforge
[17:55] <kwaping> cool
[17:55] <harlowja> and nm, https://github.com/stackforge/cloud-init/tree/0.7.x is up to date now
[17:55] <harlowja> lol
[17:55] <harlowja> sooo ya, thats done :-P
[17:55] <kwaping> wooo
[17:55] <kwaping> new source of truth?
[17:56] <kwaping> so is the 0.7.x branch considered stable, and master is bleeding-edge?
[17:56] <harlowja> sure
[17:56] <harlowja> seems about right
[17:56] <kwaping> ha
[17:57] <kwaping> yeah, I like that scheme - was thinking about other options but that works for me
[17:58] <harlowja> ya, doesn't need to be perfect
[17:59] <kwaping> no, it needs to be perfect
[17:59] <kwaping> jk
[18:00] <harlowja> lol
[20:31] <vila> hi there !
[20:34] <vila> with a fresh vivid-server image and cloud-init 0.7.7 I end up with no ssh keys generated and suspicious messages in the console: https://pastebin.canonical.com/129649/
[20:39] <vila> does that ring a bell ?
[20:49] <larsks> vila: that pastebin apparently requires on to log in to view?
[20:50] <vila> ha right, sorry, bad habbit
[20:51] <vila> http://paste.ubuntu.com/10828856/
[20:59] <larsks> It looks like there is no sshd-keygen service on vivid, at least.
[20:59] <larsks> It looks like key generation happens as part of the openssh-server postinst script...which is a terrible idea, but there it is.
[21:18] <vila> larsks: you mean sshd-keygen exists somewhere else ?
[21:18] <vila> larsks: and openssh-server may need to be fixed for vivid ?
[21:23] <larsks> vila: so, I'm not super familiar with the ubuntu openssh packages. *I* would fix this by having the sshd systemd service unit run a key-generation script prior to starting sshd.
[21:23] <larsks> Someone more familiar with the ubuntu side of things can probably provide a better answer.
[21:23] <vila> ack, thanks
[21:39] <vila> smoser, utlemming : any idea ?
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2015-04-15-#ubuntu-nz
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[20:48] <olly> morning
[22:29] <hads> Set up self hosted calendar and contacts sync last night, pretty close to no Google usage now.
[22:39] <chilts> hads: who are you using for email? self-hosted or someone else?
[22:40] <hads> Self hosted, have been for >15 years or so.
[22:40] <chilts> nice
[22:40] <chilts> I did at one time
[22:41] <hads> I look after a dozen VMs anyway so it's not really much more effort.
[22:43] <G> yeah, self-hosted is imo the way to go, what are you using for Calendar?
[22:43] <hads> Radicale, I tried setting it up quite a while ago but didn't have much success, a couple versions later it seems to work.
[22:44] <hads> Proxied through nginx for SSL and authing against dovecot IMAP
[23:05] <G> ahhh that sounds good
[23:08] * G wonders why Chorus have decided to cause two DLM reboots in the last day for
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2015-04-15-#ubuntu-meeting
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[11:42] <Kilos> greetings all
[11:45] <toddy> Hi Kilos, do we have a meeting in a few minutes? There are no candidates on the list: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Membership/Boards#A12:00
[11:46] <Kilos> i dont think so toddy but im here in any case
[11:46] <Kilos> hehe
[11:46] <toddy> ok, mee too
[11:49] <Kilos> toddy you must have unread mails and another list to join
[11:50] <toddy> hmm, I search for it. maybe in the spam box
[11:52] <toddy> Kilos: can you give me the subject from this mail
[11:52] <toddy> ?
[11:53] <Kilos> ive deleted a whole pile but this Welcome to the "Ubuntu-membership-boards" mailing list
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2015-04-15-#ubuntu-x
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[14:20] <bennabiy> I am having an issue with losing graphics after grub with 14.04
[14:21] <bennabiy> Intel Mobile 4 Series Integratedgraphics
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2015-04-15-#ubuntu-server
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[00:50] <harushimo> i'm trying to install openstack on ubuntu server. For the hypervisor portion, can someone direct me how to setup the kvm
[00:59] <sarnold> harushimo: I hope this is helpful http://docs.openstack.org/havana/config-reference/content/kvm.html
[01:00] <sarnold> harushimo: (you may need to pick a different openstack release than havana depending upon which version you're running)
[01:00] <harushimo> i'm running whatever ubuntu server is giving me
[01:00] <harushimo> I don't know which one I can get
[01:00] <sarnold> which version of ubuntu are you using?
[01:01] <harushimo> 14.04.2
[01:01] <sarnold> 14.04 LTS is using icehouse..
[01:01] <harushimo> I thought it was a current version
[01:01] <harushimo> okay thank you
[01:01] <harushimo> I may be asking a lot of questions
[01:01] <harushimo> please bare with me
[01:02] <sarnold> http://docs.openstack.org/icehouse/config-reference/content/kvm.html
[01:02] <harushimo> i'm reading it now
[01:08] <harushimo> sarnold: thank you
[01:08] <harushimo> I can't get anyone on the openstack side to help
[01:09] <sarnold> harushimo: that's too bad :/ openstack is sooo complicated, it feels like a mentor is practically a necessity
[01:09] <harushimo> sarnold: this is my 4th attempt at it
[01:10] <harushimo> sarnold: i've debated on giving up
[01:10] <sarnold> harushimo: hehe, I know the feeling; I've thuoght before it might be easier to write tools by hand than to learn these tools..
[01:10] <shauno> I've always been under the impression that openstack is written by consultants, to keep consultants in business. might not be true, but it sure feels like it
[01:12] <harushimo> I agree with both of you
[01:14] <harushimo> i appreciate the help
[01:14] <harushimo> let me see if I can get it done successfully
[01:15] <sarnold> good luck! and have a good night
[02:00] <harushimo> another quick question
[02:00] <harushimo> does it matter if you use Xen or KVM as hypervisor
[02:01] <patdk-l2> heh?
[02:01] <patdk-l2> there is little difference
[02:01] <patdk-l2> xen uses qemu for hvm
[02:02] <patdk-l2> qemu will use kvm if available
[02:02] <patdk-l2> xen gives a different management interface over pure qemu
[02:20] <sarnold> harushimo: I'd prefer qemu/kvm myself, it feels easier to work with to me
[02:28] <harushimo> okay
[02:28] <harushimo> thank you
[03:54] <conner> Anyone available to help a guy figure out a CDROM installation problem?
[03:55] <conner> Been scratching my head for a while now, and just can't seem to get it figured out. Just trying to re-install the server.iso. Also have a few questions regarding my setup, in case there is an easier way to go about it.
[03:58] <patdk-l2> we wouldn't have any idea, we don't even know what your attempting to ask yet
[03:58] <patdk-l2> mainly cause you didn't
[03:58] <patdk-l2> !ask
[04:02] <conner> Oh sorry. So, I've been trying to either re-install or "reset" my server installation on a home computer. Currently 12.04 server is installed, and I have a DVD-R burned with the 14.10 x64 iso on it. I've managed to boot into the DVD and get the installation going, however, it fails to "detect and mount the CD-ROM". I've checked several logs and it just says in various places that the CDROM was unmounted "just to be safe".
[04:08] <conner> To continue my question beyond the DVD installation, since I have 12.04 already installed, is there a way to just do-release-upgrade to 14.10 and forget about the DVD? I've read you can do release updates, however my host/network files are all botched and I'd just like a fresh start.
[07:34] <arcsky> what do you guys recommend ansible or puppet or chef?
[09:19] <blueingress> Hi, How can I tail multiple logs from differnt servers to a console? Thanks.
[09:20] <jpds_> blueingress: Set up an rsyslog server and have them all log there.
[09:22] <blueingress> jpds_, thanks .. I will try
[10:06] <lordievader> Good afternoon.
[12:57] <jamespage> zul, I almost have horizon done and tested btw
[12:57] <zul> ok
[12:58] <zul> jamespage: just rebuilding kilo-rc1 for trusty
[12:58] <zul> jamespage: just have keystone and neutron* to rebuild
[15:41] <kyle__> Anyone here good with apt-cacher-ng? Familiar with why it would have over 200k close-waits open?
[15:43] <OpenTokix> kyle__: because the fin timeout is very long
[15:43] <OpenTokix> kyle__: close wait, and not time wait?
[15:48] <kyle__> OpenTokix: Close wait
[15:48] <kyle__> OpenTokix: Humm. Poking at the configs a little. Apparently the default package has a lot of example remappings in there that don't need to be. Dunno if it will solve problems, but taking them out makes the error log less chatty.
[15:50] <OpenTokix> kyle__: what is the error log? - ie. what is the error?
[15:50] <OpenTokix> kyle__: you havent changed any of yoru networking settings in sysctl?
[15:53] <kyle__> Lots of "Error creating pipe file descriptors", a complaint about the gentoo remapper (I commented out all but the ubuntu one I care about for now), and now that cleared out the cruft, too many open file handles.
[15:53] <kyle__> Argh.
[15:54] <kyle__> OpenTokix: network settings in sysctl have been rather modified, but nothing out of the ordinary.
[15:54] <OpenTokix> kyle__: increase file handles then?
[15:54] <OpenTokix> kyle__: modern computer can handle millions
[15:55] <OpenTokix> how many nodes are talking to your -ng-server?
[15:57] <kyle__> OpenTokix: Errr... 318
[15:57] <OpenTokix> kyle__: increase your fdlimit in /etc/security/limits.conf and restart apt-cacher-ng
[15:58] <OpenTokix> default it is 1000 =)
[16:06] <caribou> jamespage: any reason why you merged python-tz 2014 ? I don't see it in Debian
[16:10] <kyle__> Hrumm. Not applying limits to the user it's udner... fscking pam.
[16:13] <OpenTokix> kyle__: ?
[16:18] <kyle__> OpenTokix: It's not loading the changes to limits.conf, and I can't reboot this system (prod)(
[16:19] <OpenTokix> kyle__: did you restart the apt-cacher-ng - it should give you a new shell- not restart, bt stop + start
[17:28] <kyle__> OpenTokix: I had to edit the init script for it
[19:52] <slowe> Quick Upstart question (this is on 14.04.1): is there a way to specify environment variables to be used by an Upstart job in a separate file from the Upstart job file itself?
[19:53] <sarnold> slowe: a .override file perhaps? http://upstart.ubuntu.com/cookbook/#override-files
[19:54] <slowe> sarnold: Looks like override files are only for changing whether a job should start automatically or not (at least, that's how it appears to read).
[19:54] <slowe> sarnold: Never mind...need to scroll down farther. :-)
[19:54] <sarnold> slowe: that is how it appears to read but I suspect it can do more than just that -- I haven't confirmed for myself thoughc
[20:07] <OpenTokix> kyle__: is it working now?
[20:10] <kyle__> OpenTokix: Yeah. I had to throw limit nofile somehugenumber somehugernumber in the beginning.
[20:11] <OpenTokix> kyle__: ok, =)
[20:11] <OpenTokix> kyle__: Defaults is from when a server ad 8MB of ram =)
[20:11] <kyle__> OpenTokix: I need to dig through and see just how that works, because I've never seen it done that way before.
[20:12] <kyle__> All sorts of defaults in linux are back from the days when 64MB was pi in the sky big.
[20:14] <OpenTokix> kyle__: yes =)
[22:03] <dustinspringman> any postfix masters in the house?
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2015-04-15-#ubuntu-ph
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[07:59] <IncompleteJerk> Hello?
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2024-05-13T22:11:12.623548
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2015-04-15-#ubuntu-ci-eng
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[02:10] <imgbot> [03:55] <imgbot> [03:55] <imgbot> [05:04] <Mirv> woohoo, qtwebkit is out
[05:04] <Mirv> ogra_: ^
[05:05] <Mirv> also, Qt printing support is out :)
[07:14] <ogra_> Mirv, YAY !!!
[07:15] <ogra_> gained us 10M on the cdimage rootfs tarball
[07:19] <Mirv> \o/
[07:39] <mandel> Mirv, any idea of when I'd get a silo for line 67, i need to land that to start landing location service fixes... no pressure ;)
[07:40] <mandel> Mirv, 62, not 67
[07:40] <Mirv> mandel: are you on the old spreadsheet? line 45 is the newest I can see at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/citrain/ ...
[07:41] * Mirv personally wrote "0au" to firefox address field and pressed Delete on each for as long as there were new results found, needed to repeat a couple of times
[07:47] <mandel> Mirv, and that happens for not reading the header..
[07:51] <Mirv> mandel: silo 016 for you
[07:51] <mandel> Mirv, \o/
[08:09] <Mirv> gah, phablet-click-test-setup is again broken, this time I guess because of calculator
[08:32] <seb128> hum, https://errors.ubuntu.com/problem/76f68536265ec2ed46837fd3f35abbda886cb568 seems quite frequent nowadays
[08:32] <seb128> "ImportError: /usr/lib/python3.4/lib-dynload/_ctypes.cpython-34m-arm-linux-gnueabihf.so: undefined symbol: _PyTraceback_Add"
[08:33] <seb128> in click-apparmor
[08:33] <seb128> jdstrand, ^
[10:04] <tvoss> Mirv, can I get a silo for line 63?
[10:17] <Mirv> tvoss: the last line at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/citrain/ is line 47. please clear your browser history of the old spreadsheet (it says it's obsolete at the top of it)
[10:18] <tvoss> Mirv, oops, sorry
[10:20] <tvoss> Mirv, done :)
[10:22] <Mirv> tvoss: assigned. note that you shouldn't build just yet, since the previous landing from 023 ^ is not yet cleaned.
[10:22] <tvoss> ack
[10:23] <Riddell> what does this mean? red headline but green builds? https://jenkins.qa.ubuntu.com/job/vivid-adt-okteta/96/
[10:23] <Riddell> another one https://jenkins.qa.ubuntu.com/job/vivid-adt-kate/109/
[10:33] <Mirv> cihelp ^ see Riddell's question
[10:35] <Laney> okteta's builds link to build 85
[10:37] <Laney> newer ones still say they are in the publishing queue
[11:09] <tvoss> Mirv, sorry, change in plans, could you reconfigure 023
[11:11] <Mirv> tvoss: you mean 020?
[11:11] <Mirv> tvoss: reconfigured 020
[11:15] <tvoss> Mirv, thx
[11:16] <rvr> rsalveti: ping
[11:49] * Mirv holds 023 silo's hand to land one step at a time..
[12:10] <Mirv> 1 more to go
[13:15] <rvr> rsalveti: After PPA packages are installed: http://people.canonical.com/~vrruiz/nm-usb-3g.png http://people.canonical.com/~vrruiz/nm-usb-3g-2.png
[13:26] <jdstrand> seb128: yes, I noticed that this morning I'm not sure what it means
[13:27] <jdstrand> seb128: I'll investigate
[13:28] <seb128> jdstrand, thanks
[13:36] <jgdx> om26er, ping
[13:36] <om26er> jgdx, pong
[13:37] <jgdx> om26er, I'm looking at silo 6 and just want to confirm what it needs for to land.
[13:37] <jgdx> om26er, AP test for bug 1438049 and anything else?
[13:38] <om26er> jgdx, that and add the manual cases to the TestPlan for other bug fixes
[13:38] <jgdx> om26er, okay
[13:39] <jgdx> om26er, could you add that to the card as well? (In case it gets handed over to someone else)
[13:39] <om26er> jgdx, sure
[13:40] <jgdx> pmcgowan,thx
[13:40] <jgdx> om26er, thanks
[14:04] <boiko> Mirv: sorry for the unnapproved branch on silo 29, forgot to ask salem_ to review/approve that yesterday
[14:05] <Mirv> boiko: no problem
[14:05] <boiko> Mirv: all approved now
[14:05] <Mirv> boiko: I noticed :)
[14:05] <boiko> Mirv: thanks :)
[14:27] <rsalveti> rvr: does it work if you restore back the previous network manager version?
[14:28] <rsalveti> rvr: also, can you share your syslog?
[14:32] <rvr> rsalveti: Nope
[14:32] <rsalveti> sorry, nope for what?
[14:32] <rvr> rsalveti: Doesn't work with the previous version either
[14:33] <rvr> modem is not available on the device ttyUSB4
[14:33] <rsalveti> crap, maybe it's just broken then
[14:33] <rsalveti> why does it keep increasing the device tty number
[14:33] <rsalveti> rvr: have the syslog in hands?
[14:33] <rvr> Yes, wait a moment
[14:38] <rvr> rsalveti: https://pastebin.canonical.com/129630/
[14:40] <ogra_> rvr, did you test if it works before starting to install anything ?
[14:40] <ogra_> probbably it is gerenally broken
[14:40] <rvr> ogra_: Yes, it worked the first time
[14:41] <ogra_> k
[14:41] <ogra_> :(
[14:42] <rvr> brb
[14:44] <rsalveti> ogra_: guess it worked when it was using ttyUSB0
[14:45] <rsalveti> then for some other reason the interface name keeps bumping
[14:46] <ogra_> well, the name shouldnt matter ... i guess the permissions do though ... assuming it ships no udev rules to handle that device name
[14:47] <ogra_> (i mean for modemmanager it shouldnt matter how the device node is called)
[14:47] <rsalveti> the name is actually correct
[14:47] <rsalveti> there are 2 interfaces
[14:47] <rsalveti> ttyUSB0 and ttyUSB4
[14:47] <rsalveti> NM uses ttyUSB4
[14:47] <rsalveti> and it seems fine, just can't enable/connect it seems
[14:47] <rsalveti> Apr 15 14:32:19 ubuntu NetworkManager[12589]: <info> (ttyUSB4): modem state changed, 'enabling' --> 'registered' (reason: user-requested)
[14:47] <rsalveti> Apr 15 14:32:23 ubuntu NetworkManager[12589]: <warn> Failed to activate 'Movistar (Telefónica) Movistar (USB modems)': Connection 'Movistar (Telefónica) Movistar (USB modems)' is not available on the device ttyUSB4 at this time.
[14:48] <ogra_> kernel: [ 8201.774823] scsi 23:0:0:0: Direct-Access HUAWEI SD Storage 2.31 PQ: 0 ANSI: 2
[14:48] <rsalveti> now not sure why this only worked at the first time
[14:48] <ogra_> whats that ?
[14:48] <rsalveti> they usually got a small storage device with it
[14:48] <ogra_> that looks like the dongle has a "driver partition"
[14:48] <rsalveti> not sure if for sim stuff
[14:48] <rsalveti> or just for windows drivers
[14:48] <ogra_> iirc you need to init such devices with a special toggle
[14:49] <ogra_> to make it recognized properly by the kernel ... else it works degraded
[14:50] <ogra_> sudo usb_modeswitch -v 12d1 -p 1c0b -M '55534243123456780000000000000011062000000100000000000000000000'
[14:51] <rsalveti> interesting
[14:51] <rsalveti> rvr: ^
[14:51] <ogra_> switches a huawei dongle from storage mode into modem mode
[14:51] <ogra_> (from a german forum)
[14:55] <ogra_> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MobileWirelessBroadband#USB_modeswitch
[14:55] <ogra_> "None of these facilities are of any use under linux. Moreover, some modems are not recognised by Network Manager until you unmount the filesystem. "
[15:51] <rvr> rsalveti: ogra: I've read that usb_switchmode disables CD mode in the dongle
[15:51] <ogra_> rvr, right ... and apparently "CD mode" interferes with the modem functionality when it is enabled
[15:53] <rvr> ogra_: So, is it not working in my case?
[15:53] <ogra_> rvr, i dont know, seemingly it works for some people on first start but not on subsequent ones ...
[15:53] <ogra_> if they dont disable that storage mode
[15:54] <ogra_> though i'm not sure if thats still the case in 14.04 ... pitti used to maintain usb-modeswitch. probably he can tell you
[15:54] <rvr> I don't see any storage device on the desktop realted to the dongle
[15:55] <ogra_> so perhaps thats a red herring and we se the right defaults in newer relesases
[15:55] <ogra_> (pitti would know i guess)
[16:01] <rsalveti> rvr: ogra_: lsusb should tell you if needed or not
[16:01] <rsalveti> actually, it seems to be changing the mode for the known port
[16:01] <rsalveti> rvr: but did you try running modeswitch for it?
[16:01] <rsalveti> just weird it worked once
[16:06] <rvr> rsalveti: http://paste.ubuntu.com/10827662/
[16:07] <rvr> rsalveti: No, I haven't tried running modeswitch manually, how's done?
[16:07] <rvr> Driver=usb-storage
[16:10] <rsalveti> rvr: I think by just installing usb-modeswitch and usb-modeswitch-data
[16:11] <rsalveti> rvr: there are udev rules in there for this modem
[16:11] <rsalveti> if not already installed by default
[16:12] <rsalveti> awe_: rvr is currently trying to validate the usb dongle with the nm silo, but having issues with his device
[16:12] <rvr> rsalveti: usb-modeswitch is already installed
[16:12] <rsalveti> awe_: not specifically with the silo, just not reliably working even with the previous nm version
[16:13] <rsalveti> awe_: ChickenCutlass: don't you guys have any other usb modem dongle in the office?
[16:13] <ChickenCutlass> I don't
[16:13] <rsalveti> freeze is tomorrow, so we need to try to land this nm change probably today still
[16:14] <awe_> rsalveti, I have no access to USB dongles. cyphermox, do you have any with you?
[16:14] <awe_> cyphermox, or could you at least help rvr out with his modem?
[16:15] <cyphermox> what's up?
[16:15] <rsalveti> cyphermox: rvr is trying to validate latest awe_'s changes to see if that affected or not modem manager
[16:15] <rsalveti> cyphermox: as you requested
[16:15] <cyphermox> ok
[16:15] <rsalveti> cyphermox: but he is having issues with his dongle
[16:16] <cyphermox> well, usb-modeswitch of itself should handle things without any interaction
[16:16] <cyphermox> rvr: are you on vivid?
[16:16] <rsalveti> https://pastebin.canonical.com/129630/
[16:16] <rsalveti> yes, vivid
[16:16] <rsalveti> as he is testing vivid + that package
[16:16] <rvr> cyphermox: Yes, it is a live Vivid
[16:17] <cyphermox> and MM doesn't see your modem at all?
[16:17] <rvr> cyphermox: Yes, it does
[16:17] <rvr> cyphermox: But returns connection error when enabling it
[16:18] <cyphermox> then there is nothing for usb-modeswitch to do
[16:18] <cyphermox> isn't it ttyUSB4?
[16:18] <cyphermox> looks like it's working just fine, it registered and all
[16:20] <cyphermox> is the connection properly configured? MM is saying it's not available on ttyUSB4, so maybe it thinks you're roaming or not on the right provider or something
[16:20] <rvr> cyphermox: Yes, the connection is properly configured
[16:21] <rvr> cyphermox: I can connect the first time
[16:28] <rsalveti> rvr: the first time you tried or first time after a reboot?
[16:29] <rvr> rsalveti: First time after boot
[16:29] <rsalveti> right, might be related with the mode switch then
[16:29] <rsalveti> rvr: can you still validate the silo by testing after the boot?
[16:30] <cyphermox> no
[16:30] <robru> boiko: do you really need 2 silos for telephony-service? can those be merged into 1 silo?
[16:31] <rvr> rsalveti: I think I tried and failed, but checking again
[16:31] <cyphermox> after you've booted and it switched once, the devices don't switch back to non-modem mode
[16:31] <cyphermox> rvr: have you ran a test without awe's patches yet?
[16:31] <cyphermox> ie. are you doing a control test beforehand?
[16:32] <rvr> cyphermox: Yes, of course
[16:32] <rvr> cyphermox: I tried to connect without the silo, and it did
[16:32] <rvr> After that, I couldn't
[16:33] <boiko> robru: well, the fix on silo 25 needs to land as quick as possible, the other silo will still take a bit of time to land
[16:33] <robru> boiko: hm
[16:33] <boiko> robru: so after talking to bfiller we agreed that it was better not to get both fixes on the same silo
[16:34] <boiko> robru: but if we are short on silos, row 53 can wait a bit
[16:34] <robru> boiko: I just noticed that telephony-service in silo 29 is stuck in proposed, trying to get that poked through for you.
[16:34] <robru> boiko: we're not super short, but we just got out of a big crunch, so I'm hoping not to tie them all up again so soon.
[16:34] <boiko> robru: QA has also complained in the past when we put non-related fixes together on the same silo
[16:35] <boiko> robru: that's fine, so maybe I can get a silo assigned and in case you need it back you can take it
[16:35] <robru> boiko: but if they're two fixes for the same package, are they really non-related? :-P
[16:35] <robru> boiko: ok
[16:36] <boiko> robru: I also prefer everything on the same silo, but in the past it delayed some urgent landings, so we try to avoid it
[16:36] <cyphermox> rvr: after that meaning, you updated the package and then it will not reconnect?
[16:36] <robru> boiko: right
[16:36] <cyphermox> rvr: or does that mean you then disconnected and tried to reconnect and it didn't, and you stil hadn't installed awe's package?
[16:37] <rvr> cyphermox: I updated the package
[16:38] <cyphermox> and then you restarted NM?
[16:38] <cyphermox> and/or MM too?
[16:39] <boiko> robru: just for reference, how do I know a package is stuck in proposed? just checking the excuses page? and in case it is, who should I ping or what do I need to do?
[16:41] <robru> boiko: the silo dashboard will say "foo is in the Proposed pocket" for an unreasonable amount of time, and it'll link to the excuses page, which will give some reasons. In this case there's a boottest regression, which in my experience is always a false positive, so i pinged ci people to retry that test which usually works
[16:42] <boiko> robru: ok, the ci people to ping, are they on this channel? or should I go to another channel?
[16:43] <robru> boiko: yeah they're here but in this case I pinged in #ci on the private server. they respond to 'ci-help' without the hyphen
[16:44] <boiko> robru: ok, thanks, I will join that channel in case I need it in the future (which I think I will as I got into that boottest thing already once or twice)
[16:44] <robru> boiko: yeah i've been seeing that a lot, several times per day
[16:45] <boiko> robru: ok, thanks for the explanation and thanks for the silo too :)
[16:46] <boiko> robru: one last question: while telephony-service is stuck in proposed (and thus the changes not merged back to trunk), can I force the build on the other telephony-service silos just to start testing?
[16:46] <boiko> robru: the silo will still be marked dirty after silo 29 lands, right?
[16:47] <robru> boiko: yes, you can FORCE_REBUILD to make a build happen, but just be aware it will not have the fix from the other silo, and it'll be marked dirty when the other silo merges.
[16:48] <boiko> robru: that's ok, it is just that we can start testing it
[16:48] <boiko> robru: thanks
[16:48] <robru> boiko: you're welcome
[16:58] <om26er> cihelp Hi! ci dashboard seems to be showing very incomplete results of the last test run, can anyone look into that ?
[16:58] <om26er> http://ci.ubuntu.com/smokeng/vivid/touch/
[17:02] <plars> om26er: it looks like some of them timed out trying to unlock
[17:02] <om26er> plars, ^
[17:02] <om26er> uh
[17:03] <plars> om26er: unity8, camera_app, and webapp_container in particular - anything changed that might have affected this?
[17:04] <plars> om26er: I'm not suggesting that something changed with those specifically, but perhaps something with unity8 and friends that made unlocking less reliable in general?
[17:04] <om26er> plars, I believe unity8 holds the unlock script
[17:04] <plars> om26er: right, unity8-autopilot
[17:05] <om26er> plars, need to look into lp:unity8 to see if something changed there.
[17:07] <om26er> Saviq, hey! was the unity8 unlocker helper changed recently ?
[17:07] <Saviq> om26er, not for a while, why?
[17:07] <om26er> plars, reports some tests are failing in the lab due to unlock timing out
[17:10] <Saviq> om26er, that's likely bug #1421009
[17:18] <rvr> rsalveti: cyphermox: Do network manager restarts when logging out of a session, or just nm-applet?
[17:18] <ogra_> rvr, you could tell yourself ;) NM is a system upstart job ...
[17:19] <ogra_> nm-applet is a session job
[17:20] <rvr> Ok, I have restarted the service
[17:20] <rvr> And I'm still connected
[17:21] <rvr> rsalveti: cyphermox: So, apparently, I can connect with silo packages
[17:24] * sil2100 off for lunch
[17:25] <jhodapp> robru, can I get a silo for line 55 please?
[17:26] <rvr> rsalveti: cyphermox: http://paste.ubuntu.com/10828013/
[17:26] <rvr> Have to go now
[17:26] <cyphermox> rvr: only nm-applet
[17:32] <awe_> cyphermox, rvr, any luck with the dongle? I managed to snag one here in Lex, but can't test it till later this afternoon
[17:47] <robru> jhodapp: oh sorry just on lunch. One sec
[17:47] <jhodapp> robru, np
[18:13] <jhodapp> thanks robru
[18:15] <rsalveti> awe_: rvr said he can connect with the silo packages
[18:15] <rsalveti> awe_: so we're good
[18:15] <awe_> w00t!
[18:15] <rsalveti> but still require someone from qa to mark it as signed off
[18:15] * awe_ quotes Sciri
[18:15] <rsalveti> and rvr is gone it seems
[18:15] <rsalveti> davmor2: can you help us with that?
[18:15] <awe_> ;(
[18:16] <awe_> rsalveti, guess I can give cgregan his 3g dongle back
[18:16] <awe_> ;)
[18:16] <rsalveti> who else from QA should still be around at this time?
[18:16] <rsalveti> robru: maybe you know
[18:17] <rsalveti> davmor2: om26er: brendand: someone? :-)
[18:17] <robru> rsalveti: should be ToyKeeper or jibel
[18:17] <robru> jhodapp: you're welcome
[18:17] <davmor2> rsalveti: rvr should do that
[18:18] <davmor2> rsalveti: I was tea
[18:19] <davmor2> rsalveti: rvr is still around
[18:19] <rsalveti> rvr: he said he had to go a few minutes ago
[18:19] <rsalveti> davmor2: the silo is approved basically, but card not updated
[18:19] <rsalveti> davmor2: so we can't land
[18:19] <rsalveti> and would like to land that today because final freeze is tomorrow
[18:21] <davmor2> rsalveti: let me chase it down with rvr, he still has the card marked as blocked
[18:21] <rsalveti> davmor2: right, that was with the morning status
[19:20] <ToyKeeper> Hmm, a mobile data bugfix... hard to test that when mobile data doesn't work.
[19:46] <robru> bzoltan: zbenjamin: https://code.launchpad.net/~zeller-benjamin/qtcreator-plugin-ubuntu/fw1504/+merge/256336 please top-approve
[19:47] <zbenjamin> robru: done
[19:47] <robru> zbenjamin: thanks
[20:28] <rsalveti> davmor2: were you able to talk with rvr?
[21:18] <alecu> ping cihelp: hi! with dobey we are considering some renaming of the main devel branches in our projects (click-scope, pay-ui, and a few more to follow). We would like to use "/trunk" for new feature development, and to use "/stable-15.04", "/rtm-15.06", etc as needed.
[21:19] <thomi> hi alecu
[21:19] <thomi> alecu: is this urgent? We're all sprinting in Austin this week
[21:19] <alecu> thomi: hi!
[21:19] <alecu> thomi: really, not urgent
[21:20] <thomi> alecu: if it can wait till next week, that would be awesome.
[21:20] <alecu> thomi: sure, don't worry about it for now, hope you guys have a great sprint!
[21:20] <thomi> alecu: thanks :D
[21:58] <jgdx> pmcgowan, silo 6 is back in qa's hands btw.
[21:58] <pmcgowan> jgdx, thanks for that
[21:59] <pmcgowan> jgdx, dude go to bed :)
[22:00] <jgdx> pmcgowan, going :) Good night!
[22:14] <rvr> rsalveti: Here
[22:14] <rvr> rsalveti: So, everything is good?
[22:15] <rvr> rsalveti: I'll approve the silo then
[22:22] <rvr> rsalveti: Done.
[22:42] <rsalveti> rvr: awesome, thanks!
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[06:03] <zdobbie> close but no cigar https://vine.co/v/euEpIVegiIx
[06:03] <Seniorita> Watch SpaceX's Vine "Falcon 9 first stage landing burn and touchdown on Just Read the Instructions"
[06:03] <Seniorita> »Vine by SpaceX«
[06:05] <dz0ny> jutro
[06:34] <napsy> jutro
[06:55] <zdobersek> AHOY
[07:30] <napsy> func (client *Client) RequestAtomicCheckAndResetWithCallback()
[07:30] <napsy> sha-bam!
[07:36] <zdobersek> dat atomicity
[07:37] <napsy> much words
[08:35] <zdobersek> http://www.delo.si/novice/kronika/tozilstvo-umaknilo-obtozni-predlog-zoper-novinarko-anusko-delic.html
[08:35] <Seniorita> Tožilstvo umaknilo obtožni predlog proti novinarki Anuški Delić
[08:35] <Seniorita> »Delićeva je med sojenjem trdila, da je vse podatke, ki jih je navajala v člankih, pridobila le iz javno dostopnih virov.«
[08:43] <idioterna> https://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/security/ms15-034.aspx
[08:43] <Seniorita> Microsoft Security Bulletin MS15-034 - Critical
[08:45] <zdobersek> doesn't affect Windows XP!
[08:47] <CrazyLemon> XP is so secure!
[08:48] <zdobersek> 14 years of stability
[08:48] <CrazyLemon> security and
[08:48] * CrazyLemon waits for zdobbie
[08:49] <zdobbie> S
[08:49] <zdobbie> T
[08:49] <zdobbie> A
[08:49] <zdobbie> B
[08:49] <zdobbie> I
[08:49] <zdobbie> L
[08:49] <zdobbie> I
[08:49] <zdobbie> TY
[08:53] <zdobbie> CrazyLemon: ya?
[08:53] <CrazyLemon> zdobbie not really
[09:00] <dz0ny> .yt history eraser courtney
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[09:44] <CrazyLemon> http://www.androidpolice.com/2015/04/15/nokia-plans-to-merge-with-alcatel-lucent-for-an-all-shares-deal-of-15-6-billion-euros-while-hinting-at-a-here-maps-sale/
[09:44] <Seniorita> Nokia Plans To Merge With Alcatel-Lucent For An All-Shares Deal Of 15.6 Billion Euros, While Hinting At A HERE Maps Sale
[09:44] <Seniorita> »Shortly after confirming the rumors of its talks with Alcatel-Lucent yesterday, Nokia has announced today that it does indeed intend to buy the F... by Rita El Khoury in News, Nokia«
[09:51] <zdobersek> ooold
[10:28] <dz0ny> .yt broods
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[10:28] <dz0ny> .yt broods coaatalis
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[10:28] <dz0ny> .yt broods coattails
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[10:31] <zdobersek> CrazyLemon: take notes http://www.polet.si/na-kisiku/video-10-zacetniskih-kolesarskih-napak
[10:31] <Seniorita> Video: 10 začetniških kolesarskih napak | :polet
[10:34] <idioterna> o
[10:35] <idioterna> zdobersek: oh come on
[10:35] <idioterna> zgubljanje?
[10:35] <idioterna> that's what it's all about
[10:36] <CrazyLemon> lol.. @helmet back to front
[10:38] <anny_> o
[10:38] * CrazyLemon did the overeating part
[10:40] <anny_> rabiš odvajalo?
[10:40] <CrazyLemon> ne.. rabiš ti?
[10:41] <anny_> em...ne
[10:41] <anny_> bolj kakšno kavo
[10:41] * CrazyLemon ne rabi niti kave
[10:42] <anny_> kriv ni moj, ampak nov fon
[10:42] <dz0ny> boobs?
[10:42] <CrazyLemon> boobs!
[10:42] <dz0ny> sry anny_ :)
[10:42] <dz0ny> anny_: kaj si pa prej imela?
[10:43] <anny_> http://goo.gl/wFvBRs
[10:43] <anny_> dz0ny, malo boljšo nokio
[10:44] <anny_> CrazyLemon?
[10:45] <CrazyLemon> anny_ ?
[10:45] <anny_> si hepi?
[10:45] <CrazyLemon> anny_ i'm not sad
[10:45] <CrazyLemon> a to šteje?
[10:45] <CrazyLemon> :D
[10:45] <dz0ny> http://goo.gl/#analytics/goo.gl/wFvBRs/all_time
[10:45] <Seniorita> Redirecting
[10:45] <dz0ny> anny_: ^^ just fyi
[10:46] <anny_> aha
[10:46] <dz0ny> a to delaš kako raziskavo kdo bo klikal tole :)?
[10:46] <anny_> ne
[10:46] <CrazyLemon> glowing bear!
[10:46] <anny_> samo CrazyLemon skušam spraviti v boljšo voljo, pa mi ne uspe
[10:46] <dz0ny> wasn't me
[10:47] <anny_> was you
[10:47] <CrazyLemon> anny_ kako pa si to poskušala?
[10:47] <anny_> falil je :/
[10:48] <anny_> klilni na boobs
[10:48] <dz0ny> http://i.imgur.com/uYEN9LC.jpg
[10:49] <dz0ny> kate ^^
[10:49] <CrazyLemon> big boobs!
[10:50] <anny_> eno piko ima na kolenu!
[10:52] <anny_> not perfect!
[11:14] <CrazyLemon> a je t-2 padu dol? :)
[11:36] <yang> CrazyLemon: odvisno kje, v LJ deluje
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[11:37] <yang> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WQKHkmtRu78
[11:37] <Seniorita> Shakatak - Live ! (Full Album) 1985 - YouTube
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[12:04] <jabuk> M 1.1 > 20.km J od OBREŽJA @14/04/2015 00:06:30 https://maps.google.com/?q=45.68+N,+15.62+E
[12:04] <jabuk> M 1.3 > 5.km Z od TOLMINA @11/04/2015 14:32:38 https://maps.google.com/?q=46.18+N,+13.67+E
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[12:05] <yang> trese se
[12:33] <napsy> oh ja
[14:18] <zdobersek> ful je zajebano
[14:19] <zdobersek> dz0ny: deop maybe
[14:19] <zdobersek> CrazyLemon: ^
[14:26] <Seniorita> [Web Upd8] Andrew: Xubuntu 15.10 To Drop GIMP, Abiword And Gnumeric, Ship With LibreOffice (Or Parts Of It) By Default http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/webupd8/~3/hdO3EzR9Px4/xubuntu-1510-to-drop-gimp-abiword-and.html
[14:39] <CrazyLemon> zdobersek ˇ
[14:40] * CrazyLemon pa verjetno jutri dobi ubuntu.si kolesarski dres!
[15:05] <zdobersek> I care so little: .
[15:07] <CrazyLemon> a small amount of care is better than no care at all!
[15:26] <sasa84> ubuntu.si kolesarski dres? a boš mal sam lipov list čez... čez ...pač čez spolovilo :P
[15:27] <sasa84> lipov list bi mogu zadostovat :$
[15:27] <idioterna> joj ej
[15:27] <sasa84> idioterna: ja...
[15:28] <idioterna> dobr da nimas mejhnih, k bi ti zihr kdo ocital to!
[15:28] <sasa84> zdobersek potrebuje npr. cerado za kamion :P
[15:28] <zdobersek> sasa84: !
[15:28] <zdobersek> sasa84: ?
[15:28] <sasa84> o zdobbie :D
[15:28] <idioterna> zdobersek: za skrit python
[15:28] <zdobersek> ah
[15:29] <sasa84> idioterna: kok pa ti veš kakšne mam? :D
[15:29] <sasa84> zihr ti je CrazyLemon povedu!
[15:29] <CrazyLemon> wat
[15:29] <jabuk> http://a.kym-cdn.com/assets/blank-b3f96f160b75b1b49b426754ba188fe8.gif
[15:29] <idioterna> sasa84: en pic si enkrat nalimala tle
[15:30] <idioterna> k si u eni beli oblekci pa pac vid se da nisi svoh
[15:30] <sasa84> beli oblekci?
[15:30] <idioterna> ma ne oblekci
[15:30] <idioterna> mislm
[15:31] <idioterna> nocm rect tistga kar ponavad zenske mislte ko recete oblekca
[15:31] <idioterna> neki beuga mas oblecen.
[15:31] <idioterna> ne vem a je pulovr al majca al karkol
[15:31] <sasa84> O_o
[15:31] <sasa84> aaa, možn, da kakšna srajca, majca itd
[15:31] <idioterna> ja
[15:31] <CrazyLemon> zihr je bila toga
[15:31] <sasa84> LOL
[15:31] <idioterna> ne ne cist casual
[15:31] <sasa84> mogoče alba! :P
[15:32] <sasa84> papežinja za pusta? :D
[15:32] <sasa84> hihi
[15:38] <CrazyLemon> chrome 42 ima nov bookmark manager
[15:38] <CrazyLemon> pretty nice je
[16:06] <Seniorita> [Web Upd8] Andrew: Opera Developer 30 Adds 32bit Linux Builds http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/webupd8/~3/DewSw4SYdfM/opera-developer-30-adds-32bit-linux.html
[16:20] <idioterna> bookmark
[16:20] <idioterna> srsly
[16:20] <idioterna> k da si ne mors zapomnt urlja
[16:44] <zdobbie> tis the brain of a child
[16:46] <zdobbie> CrazyLemon: hva zj, kter kolo bos picknu?
[16:46] <CrazyLemon> zdobbie verjetno tistega karbonca
[16:46] <CrazyLemon> če bo še available
[16:46] <zdobbie> .gif whatevs
[16:46] <jabuk> http://media.giphy.com/media/oE2ThaVdbxJJu/giphy.gif
[16:48] <CrazyLemon> zdobbie jah žal furs ni bil tako radodaren da bi šel po novega cannondale synapse di2 mit disc brakes
[16:48] <zdobbie> CrazyLemon: i hear ya
[16:53] <zdobbie> CrazyLemon: kje si? http://dos-extreme.si/index.php/en/participante/dos-ras-2015
[16:53] <Seniorita> dos-ras 2015
[17:39] <sasa84_> zdobbie: kofi nau!
[17:41] <CrazyLemon> zdobbie a ne vidiš? tista dvojica ki bo na lesenih kolesih
[17:44] <CrazyLemon> https://youtu.be/9TZcrJQw74I
[17:44] <Seniorita> ДТП в Сочи - 05.04.2015 вторая часть - YouTube
[18:05] <CrazyLemon> uporablja kdo google keep ?
[18:08] <dezman> Jaz osebno ne uporabljam, izgleda pa zanimiva zadeva.
[18:09] <CrazyLemon> moti me ko izbiraš datum za reminder da se teden začne s sunday
[18:14] <dezman> Zdele sem stestiral pa mi teden začne z ponedelkom.
[18:15] <CrazyLemon> hm.. zanimivo
[18:15] <CrazyLemon> a imaš naštiman slovenski jezik?
[18:15] <jabuk> when I hear that the coffee machine is broken http://tclhost.com/yRc4G5j.gif
[18:16] <CrazyLemon> jp
[18:16] <CrazyLemon> pri slovenščini je res tako
[18:16] <jabuk> When my boss asks how the really important project is going… http://tclhost.com/Xm9weNT.gif
[18:16] <dezman> Nastavljen imam angleški jezik
[18:17] <CrazyLemon> hm.. but how :)
[18:17] <CrazyLemon> pri meni vztraja pri sunday na angleškem jeziku
[18:17] <CrazyLemon> angleški US ali UK?
[18:20] <dezman> US
[18:21] <Seniorita> [OMG! Ubuntu!] Joey-Elijah Sneddon: Cirrus7 Nimbini Ubuntu PC Announced http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/d0od/~3/2eg3U3ApsXA/cirrus7-nimbini-ubuntu-pc-announced
[18:21] <CrazyLemon> hm.. zakaj pol meni ne pokaže prav
[18:21] <dezman> Tudi meni je to čudno.
[18:24] <CrazyLemon> nope..cleared cache pa data pa spet same crap
[18:24] <CrazyLemon> fckin software
[18:25] <dezman> To pa res ne razumem zakaj ti keep to dela.
[18:25] <CrazyLemon> ziher pebkac
[18:27] <dezman> To pa nebi vedel.
[18:40] <upd> http://www.bloomberg.com/news/videos/2015-04-15/draghi-attacked-by-protester-at-ecb-press-conference
[18:40] <Seniorita> Draghi Attacked by Protester at ECB Press Conference - Bloomberg Business
[18:40] <Seniorita> »European Central Bank President Mario Draghi was attacked by a protester yelling«
[18:42] <lynxlynxlynx> CrazyLemon: bi prej rekel, da tvoj locale vpliva, če ne moreš že v sami aplikaciji nastavit
[18:42] <lynxlynxlynx> sam najbrž nimaš nič čudnega
[18:42] <CrazyLemon> lynxlynxlynx sej pravim.. sem poskusil slovenski jezik tam se začne teden v pon.
[18:42] <jabuk> Intern’s “bugfix” http://tclhost.com/is5tUni.gif
[18:42] <CrazyLemon> angleški pa začne z nedeljo
[18:43] <CrazyLemon> njemu pa pokaže vedno v ponedeljek
[18:44] <CrazyLemon> android pa ne pozna "locale" :/
[18:45] <lynxlynxlynx> njeh, je vsaj še vedno 7 dnevni teden
[19:00] <zdobersek> CrazyLemon: tujec
[19:03] <zdobersek> CrazyLemon: tko mam jst v GNOMEu naret
[19:03] <zdobersek> me ne moti
[19:12] <CrazyLemon> zdobersek seveda.. tebe tudi EDT timezone ne moti
[19:12] <CrazyLemon> ker si pač weirdo
[19:12] <zdobersek> it's trie
[19:12] <zdobersek> true
[19:12] <zdobersek> (12:16:04 PM) CrazyLemon: zdobersek seveda.. tebe tudi EDT timezone ne moti
[19:13] <CrazyLemon> zdobersek i know
[19:13] <CrazyLemon> ne bi napisal če ne bi bilo true
[19:15] <zdobersek> (03:49:14 AM) CrazyLemon: anny_ i'm not sad
[19:39] <upd> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WpAKB75c0xU
[19:39] <Seniorita> (OFFICIAL) Eric Barone - 223,30 km/h (138,752 mph) - World mountain bike speed record - VSC 2015 - YouTube
[19:39] <Seniorita> »Eric Barone (a.k.a. The Red Baron) beat his own world speed record with a mountain bike on snow during Vars Speed Challenge 2015 (French alps) on the Chabrie...«
[19:43] <zdobersek> VICTORY
[19:43] <jabuk> http://stuffpoint.com/family-guy/image/56246-family-guy-victory-is-his.gif
[19:45] <CrazyLemon> zdobersek tis was true
[20:20] <yang> star kres
[20:27] <yang> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PP-7WX12H2I#t=50s
[20:27] <Seniorita> WORLD SPEED RECORD ON A MOUNTAIN BIKE - YouTube
[20:27] <Seniorita> »Eric Barone is a French sportsman who made a name for himself by setting world speed records on a bike, both on snow and gravel. On April 15th of 2013, he at...«
[20:35] <CrazyLemon> https://www.groupon.com/deals/gg-google-chromecast-refurbished-3
[20:35] <Seniorita> Google Chromecast (Refurbished) | Groupon
[20:35] <Seniorita> »Cast your favorite entertainment from your phone or tablet straight to the TV«
[20:35] <CrazyLemon> a groupon pošlje v slovenijo? :)
[20:35] <jabuk> when I follow a tutorial to the letter and there are dozens of errors http://i.imgur.com/ZkcCiyy.gif
[20:36] <CrazyLemon> US only! :/
[20:59] <dz0ny> CrazyLemon: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rAzwuEmZcmE
[20:59] <Seniorita> SpaceX CRS-6 First Stage Landing - YouTube
[20:59] <CrazyLemon> dz0ny a je to tist longer video?
[20:59] <dz0ny> in hg
[21:00] <CrazyLemon> sam ne vem zakaj so private
[21:00] <CrazyLemon> drugače pa ja..way2fast
[21:01] <dz0ny> sej bl počaš ne bo šlo :)
[21:01] <dz0ny> motor ma tolk thrusta da bi šla nazal in space :)
[21:01] <dz0ny> mrh
[21:01] <dz0ny> lol
[21:01] <dz0ny> grem spat
[21:02] <dz0ny> ne znam tipkat več
[21:02] <CrazyLemon> seveda bo šlo
[21:02] <CrazyLemon> več thrusta
[21:02] <CrazyLemon> pa slow it down
[21:02] <dz0ny> ne mores bl pocas
[21:02] <CrazyLemon> pa vidiš da zgoraj thrusterji delajo šele ko začne padat :D
[21:02] <CrazyLemon> lahko!
[21:04] <dz0ny> like this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NCpI0KpKUpg#t=159
[21:04] <Seniorita> SpaceX rocket blasts off, but landing 'too hard for survival' - YouTube
[21:04] <Seniorita> »Capsule holds more than 1,800 kilograms of supplies for the International Space Station. To read more http://www.cbc.ca/news/1.3032458 »»» Subscribe to CBC N...«
[21:05] <CrazyLemon> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZwwS4YOTbbw
[21:05] <Seniorita> F9R Flight Test | 1,000m - YouTube
[21:05] <CrazyLemon> dz0ny like this
[21:05] <Seniorita> »Video of Falcon 9 Reusable (F9R) taking its second test flight at our rocket development facility. F9R quadrupled its height from its previous test to rise t...«
[21:05] <CrazyLemon> ^
[21:14] <dz0ny> CrazyLemon: nope http://www.reddit.com/r/spacex/comments/32n2rc/the_case_for_missed_approach_procedures/cqcr1fs
[21:15] <dz0ny> tist je manjše, lažje, stable platform, motor je underpowered by desing
[21:17] <CrazyLemon> ne mi reč da ne zmorejo nadzorovat količino thrusta :)
[21:18] <dz0ny> ne moreš od 0->100
[21:18] <dz0ny> lahko daš nekje od 70% do 110%
[21:19] <CrazyLemon> no sej.. tukaj so potrebovali več thrusta in ne manj :)
[21:19] <dz0ny> After MECO and first stage sep, they cut out all but 3 (I think) engines, and then once it's down in atmosphere it's only running one engine. Even then the single engine is more thrust than that required to hover, so it would just take back off in the air. Unless you started messing with "pulsing" the engines, but I don't think it would be great to repeatedly light and then kill them.
[21:20] <dz0ny> ti si napisal da je bla prehitra
[21:21] <CrazyLemon> ja.. ker so uporabili premal thrusta
[21:21] <dz0ny> also Grasshopper was flown while weighed down to allow it to hover.
[21:21] <CrazyLemon> in je hitreje padala
[21:21] <dz0ny> sigh
[21:21] <dz0ny> ne razumeš
[21:21] <CrazyLemon> razumem..ti meniš da če bi uporabili več thrusta da bi šla nazaj
[21:21] <dz0ny> ne
[21:22] <dz0ny> padala je točno tako hitro da je 30cm pred tlemi obstala
[21:22] <dz0ny> če bi prej užgal bi jo odneslo
[21:22] <dz0ny> če bi več trustha dodal bi jo odneslo
[21:22] <CrazyLemon> ampak ni obstala..did it :D
[21:23] <dz0ny> nikol ne bo
[21:23] <dz0ny> ker ni bil problem v hitrosti
[21:23] <dz0ny> ampak času :)
[21:24] <CrazyLemon> torej čez 10 let bo že lepo glajdala in bo pristala na platformi ?
[21:24] <dz0ny> to kr je senzor sporočil se je ob nepravem času interpretiralo
[21:24] <CrazyLemon> :D
[21:24] <dz0ny> sej na faksu so te zihr učil o feedback loop
[21:24] <dz0ny> histerezi in operacijskih ojačevalnikih
[21:25] <dz0ny> ce te niso fail :)
[21:25] <CrazyLemon> ne spomnim se če so ali niso
[21:25] <CrazyLemon> ampak dvomim :)
[21:26] <dz0ny> debounce?
[21:26] <CrazyLemon> nope
[21:26] <dz0ny> sigh
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2015-04-15-#ubuntu-africa
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[05:29] <Kilos> morning africa
[06:42] <Kilos> hi ongolaBoy
[07:13] <superfly> Kilos: have you gotten any feedback from Canonical yet?
[07:13] <Kilos> nothing superfly
[07:14] <Kilos> it might be an idea to launch the site and share the link with the cc to hear what they say
[07:15] <Kilos> we just dont go public till they have checked it out
[07:16] <superfly> "It's easier to ask forgiveness than it is to get permission." -- Grace Hopper
[07:16] <Kilos> lol
[07:17] <Kilos> we just say oops sorry
[07:20] <Kilos> its not like we are doing anything to the detriment of ubuntu
[07:50] <Kilos> to the contrary imo and we arent using any official trademark anyway are we superfly
[07:50] <superfly> no we aren't
[07:51] <superfly> well, except for the "Ubuntu" name, which technically should not be copyrightable
[07:51] <Kilos> ok lets do the forgiveness thing then
[07:51] <Kilos> hehe
[07:52] <Kilos> i dont think they realise the scope of our project
[07:53] <Kilos> i will right up an article for the weekly news letter and mail it to you
[08:33] <Kilos> ai! superfly the last line is wrong, because it will be on topic
[08:33] <Kilos> no rush to check
[12:28] <Kilos> elacheche you here?
[13:00] <elacheche> Kilos, hey!
[13:00] <Kilos> hi elacheche
[13:01] <Kilos> i didnt know if you got the welcome mail like toddy didnt but i see you in the channel
[13:01] <Kilos> so all good sorry
[13:05] <elacheche> :) Kilos
[13:05] <Kilos> hehe
[18:49] <Kilos> hi neo
[18:49] <Kilos> ai!
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2015-04-15-#ubuntu-pe
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[15:49] <arroweb> nas o/
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2015-04-15-#ubuntustudio-devel
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[13:54] <zequence> pulseaudio-module-jack was not installed in our live ISO
[13:58] <zequence> I'll have a look tonight and try get changes in before tomorrow
[14:05] <zequence> Seems like the live ISO might be missing a few packages actually
[15:05] <zequence> Happened a month ago, I hadn't noticed
[15:05] <zequence> langasek has made a change to the update script
[15:07] <zequence> The update script for ubuntustudio-meta, that is
[15:20] <zequence> I've forgotten to add ubuntustudio-audio-core as a real package, so much of our core packages were never installed
[15:23] <zequence> I really need to get a good alert going on the "changed" mail list. Or, people need to let us know when they changed something that actually changes things for us
[15:24] <zequence> bug 1444535
[15:34] <micahg> when the seeds change, a meta upload is usually required as well (exceptions are generally things that are image only and not reflected in the archive)
[15:36] <zequence> micahg: Seems like our update.cfg hadn't been updated and we were basing on old seeds
[15:36] <zequence> langasek changed that, but in the process we lost a few packages that I had put in a new seed, which I had not made a package of yet
[15:36] <zequence> So, my mistake ultimately
[15:38] <micahg> ah, ok
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2015-04-15-#ubuntu-us-fl
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[02:19] <mhall119> ahoneybun: congratulations, by the way
[04:44] <Nothing_Much> single-fatherhood*
[04:44] <Nothing_Much> or something
[11:20] <ahoneybun> thanks mhall119 :)
[11:28] * ahoneybun wonders where is the log from that meeting
[12:56] <danstoner> Is there a special "hardware certification edition" bootable usb image?
[12:57] <danstoner> the thing that runs the tests for hardware (e.g. http://www.ubuntu.com/certification/desktop/ )
[12:57] <danstoner> I would like to boot from a USB stick and run something that says "yes, this laptop should work ok"
[13:33] <mhall119> balloons: ^^ can you answer that?
[13:35] <balloons> danstoner, the closest you will get to that I suppose is checkbox
[13:36] <balloons> but the 'tests' are not all automated (though you could only run the automated ones I guess). Some are semi-automated and require you to interact and interpert
[13:36] <danstoner> I thought sure I saw at one point a bootable USB image that included the same hardware tests used by "partners"
[13:38] <balloons> for what purpose?
[13:39] <danstoner> Walk into Best Buy, walk out with a laptop that should work with ubuntu.
[13:40] <balloons> right, I suspected as much
[13:41] <balloons> there's not going to be any magic there.. Although just bringing the livecd will more or less achieve the same thing. It has audio and video on it and you can test trackpad, etc
[13:41] <balloons> but checkbox would do the trick in that case if you wanted to sort of run through things
[14:36] <danstoner> or a Pawn Shop.
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2015-04-15-#juju-dev
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[06:24] <jw4> perrito666: OCR PTAL http://reviews.vapour.ws/r/1434/
[06:26] <perrito666> jw4: I am so no OCR, not even in my own tz :p but ill take a look
[06:26] <perrito666> oh axw_ already stamped it
[06:27] <jw4> perrito666: you're a gem - thanks axw_
[06:46] <perrito666> jw4: contrary to what you said, there is no actions doc
[06:46] <jw4> perrito666: one typo bugfix and you get all antagonistic with me
[06:46] <perrito666> lol
[06:50] <jw4> perrito666: https://jujucharms.com/docs/1.20/actions
[06:52] <jw4> perrito666: better link: https://jujucharms.com/docs/stable/actions
[07:04] <perrito666> jw4: I was for some reason looking for that in github.com/juju/juju/docs
[07:29] <perrito666> jw4: so, whenever I want to action get, I need to do agivenparam.name
[07:29] <perrito666> ?
[07:46] <jw4> perrito666: no, the .name was just an example to show how to retrieve nested values
[07:47] <perrito666> that is a misleading example, we should add some more info there
[07:47] <perrito666> btw, very useful docs, cheers
[07:50] <jw4> perrito666: congrats to bodie_ who did most of the docs
[07:51] <jw4> I did mostly state server, API's and back end stuff in the uniter, etc.
[07:51] <jw4> so I'm a little fuzzy on the command line, action-set, action-get, etc.
[07:59] <mup> Bug #1444333 was opened: subordinate relation removed still shows on the subordinate side <juju-core:New> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1444333>
[08:59] <mup> Bug #1444333 changed: subordinate relation removed still shows on the subordinate side <remove-relation> <subordinate> <juju-core:New> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1444333>
[08:59] <mup> Bug #1444353 was opened: juju backups/restore does not support local provider, but doesn't warn user <juju-core:New> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1444353>
[08:59] <mup> Bug #1444354 was opened: juju backups includes previous backups in saved file <juju-core:New> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1444354>
[09:08] <dimitern> jam, ping
[09:08] <dimitern> jam, we're in the same hangout btw
[12:15] <mattyw> gsamfira_, ping?
[12:15] <gsamfira_> mattyw: pong
[12:16] <mattyw> gsamfira_, hey there, have you ever tried installing vim with choclatey? I've followed the instructions on your wiki and thought I'd try installing vim at the end and it doesn't work - but I don't understand the error. Just wondered if you'd tried it?
[12:17] <mattyw> gsamfira_, this is what I get: vim : The term 'vim' is not recognized as the name of a cmdlet
[12:17] <gsamfira_> ahh yes
[12:18] <perrito666> mattyw: you are not embracing the proper spirit man
[12:18] <perrito666> use notepad
[12:18] <gsamfira_> mattyw: windows has this bad habbit of installing apps in its own folder
[12:18] <gsamfira_> mattyw: those folders are rarely in $PATH
[12:18] <gsamfira_> mattyw: so you end up having to type out the absolute path to it
[12:19] <mattyw> gsamfira_, there's a vim74 in Program Files x86 that looks like it - but that gives me the same problem
[12:19] <mattyw> gsamfira_, although maybe my powershall skills are failing me
[12:19] <mattyw> perrito666, is this the start of a notepad <-> vim flamewar ;)
[12:20] <gsamfira_> &mattyw: 'C:\Program Files (x86)\vim\vim74\vim.exe'
[12:20] <gsamfira_> try: & 'C:\Program Files (x86)\vim\vim74\vim.exe' C:\test.txt
[12:20] <gsamfira_> ampersand is important if running from powershell
[12:20] <mattyw> gsamfira_, ah yes - vim74 is a folder - I feel like an idiot!
[12:20] <perrito666> mattyw: it may very well be, we just need someone to take notepad's end
[12:20] <mattyw> gsamfira_, got it - thanks very much
[12:21] <mattyw> perrito666, lolz
[12:21] <perrito666> mattyw: here gsamfira showed me (he is afk btw) that a nice way to do things is to create a bin folder, add it to your path and then add a lot of files called yourcommand.cmd with a call to the full path inside
[12:21] <perrito666> and that puts the command in the path
[12:21] <perrito666> isn't it super easy and user friendly?
[12:22] * perrito666 rejoices while running the testsuite in windows to fix it
[12:23] <jw4> notepad rulez
[12:23] <mattyw> perrito666, I used to do that in my old windows days - just trying to remember it all - it's all hidden at the back of my brain
[12:24] <perrito666> mattyw: in my old windows days I used desktop icons
[12:24] <perrito666> I was never a power hacker of windows
[12:24] <mattyw> perrito666, same - but I had the custom folder with my own bins
[12:25] * perrito666 thinks that he should now install vim and add it to his bin folder
[12:25] <gsamfira_> mattyw: thats how the brain protects itself from traumatic memories. It berries memories deep in the back of your mind
[12:26] <perrito666> just like windows does with binaries, apparently
[12:28] <mattyw> perrito666, haha
[12:33] <jamespage> ericsnow, hey - I'm struggling to build juju from source right now to testout your fixes
[12:33] <jamespage> go install -v github.com/juju/juju/...
[12:34] <jamespage> ericsnow, http://paste.ubuntu.com/10826372/
[12:34] <jamespage> any ideas?
[12:43] <jw4> jamespage: looks like you may need to run godeps
[12:44] <jw4> go install launchpad.net/godeps
[12:44] <jw4> pushd github.com/juju/juju && godeps -u dependencies.tsv
[12:45] <thumper> jw4: do you know about the Makefile?
[12:45] <jw4> ah
[12:45] <jw4> yesh
[12:45] <jw4> jamespage: make install-dependencies
[12:45] <jw4> thumper: but I don't think that runs godeps does it?
[12:45] <thumper> if you have export JUJU_MAKE_GODEPS=true
[12:45] <jw4> ooooh
[12:45] <thumper> then make check runs godeps then the tests
[12:46] <thumper> o/ jamespage
[12:46] * jw4 needs to read the docs again now that it's not all new
[12:46] <jamespage> hey thumper
[12:46] <jw4> ... to me
[12:54] <perrito666> wallyworld: I am u here, next to the elevator
[12:54] <jam> wallyworld: looking at your status feedback
[12:54] <jam> does that mean "juju status > out.txt" is going to switch to UTC vs "juju status" is going to use localtime?
[12:54] <wallyworld> perrito666: i'm already in mark's room
[12:54] <wallyworld> jam: yes
[12:55] <jam> wallyworld: sounds bad to me
[12:55] <wallyworld> was a strong preference from IS
[12:55] <perrito666> k just fetch me out after you finish
[12:55] <jam> having the output change because I try to save it
[12:55] <jam> is bad
[12:55] <jam> now, having a flag, or "-o" or something else would be semi ok
[12:55] <wallyworld> jam: i understand and made the same arguments
[12:56] <wallyworld> but eventually caved in
[12:56] <jam> wallyworld: so I think we push back/elevate this to someone else
[12:56] <wallyworld> ok
[12:56] <wallyworld> i'll add a --utc flag
[12:56] <wallyworld> to the status command
[12:57] <wallyworld> jam: would you be happy with a --utc flag?
[12:57] <jam> wallyworld: I'm fine with it
[12:57] <wallyworld> ok, thanks, i'll do that
[12:57] <jam> I can understand the "use UTC if I'm scripting/documenting this for posterity"
[12:57] <wallyworld> i do agree with you
[12:58] <jam> but doing "juju status"
[12:58] <jam> hmm
[12:58] <jam> "juju status | vim"
[12:58] <jam> and I get something different
[12:58] <wallyworld> jam: actually, this is for status-history
[12:58] <wallyworld> and with status
[12:58] <wallyworld> it is only for the Since timestamp
[12:58] <perrito666> I am + 1 with same command should give consistent output
[12:58] <wallyworld> in the yaml
[12:58] <perrito666> wallyworld: ^
[13:50] <mwhudson> sinzui: can you run grep-dctrl -FBuild-Depends golang-go -sPackage /var/lib/apt/lists/*Sources on your trusty system?
[13:56] <sinzui> mwhudson, https://pastebin.canonical.com/129629/
[13:57] <mwhudson> sinzui: thats a bit more than just docker :/
[14:52] <benji> yeah, the DWIM when piping status has bitten me before
[15:05] <perrito666> ericsnow: https://bugs.launchpad.net/juju-core/+bug/1444354
[15:05] <mup> Bug #1444354: juju backups includes previous backups in saved file <backup-restore> <juju-core:Triaged> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1444354>
[15:05] <perrito666> :) enjoy
[15:05] <jw4> mattyw: did your 'cannot retrieve meter status' fix get pushed to master yet, or just 1.23?
[15:06] <mattyw> jw4, I there was definately a pr for it - tasdomas is the guy to speak to
[15:06] <jw4> mattyw: k, thanks - I just triggered the bug again just upgrading from 1.24 to 1.24
[15:10] <mattyw> jw4, it did land in master, can you send a paste of the error?
[15:16] <jw4> mattyw: http://paste.ubuntu.com/10827323/
[15:18] <mattyw> tasdomas, can you take a quick look ^^ I thought this would have been fixed by monday's change
[15:31] <tasdomas> mattyw, looking
[15:32] <mattyw> tasdomas, thanks very much
[15:34] <tasdomas> jw4, the PR landed in master this morning
[15:35] <mgz> jw4 - action hero, on now
[15:47] <mwhudson> cherylj, mattyw, wallyworld_: icon time https://plus.google.com/+GustavoNiemeyer/posts/UpjgWHbpjCU
[15:49] <mattyw> mwhudson, awesome
[15:49] <cherylj> mwhudson: I'm on it!
[15:50] <mattyw> cherylj, mwhudson I'm working on the amulet tests at the moment, hope to get them done by the end of our charm comp session tomorrow
[15:51] <jw4> mgz: aww :)
[16:02] <tasdomas> jw4, seems to be working fine for me
[16:02] <jw4> hmm; upgrade from 1.24 to 1.24?
[16:02] <jw4> I'll try again in a clean env
[16:02] <tasdomas> jw4, yes
[16:03] <jw4> basically I deployd from master... deployed a charm... modified juju.... did juju upgrade-juju --upload-tools
[16:04] <mwhudson> i ran my ec2 out of disk space testing my fixes :-)
[16:04] <tasdomas> jw4, did the same - git checkout master; git checkout HEAD^; [build,bootstrap,deploy];git checkout master;[build, upgrade]
[16:05] <jw4> tasdomas: okay - thanks - I'll verify that it wasn't an issue with my env.
[16:07] <tasdomas> jw4, do you have the gitref you were upgrading from ?
[16:07] <jw4> tasdomas: aa1532b
[16:08] <jw4> tasdomas: one step I didn't see in your upgrade... go install ./... before juju upgrade
[16:09] <tasdomas> jw4, yeah, that's what I mean when I said "build"
[16:09] <jw4> kk
[16:21] <tasdomas> jw4, did an upgrade from aa1532b to HEAD, did not see any problems
[16:21] <tasdomas> jw4, if you manage to reproduce me, do ping or email or find me
[16:30] <mup> Bug #1444037 changed: juju-core 1.22.1 is not packaged in Ubuntu <block-proposed> <packaging> <juju-core (Ubuntu):Triaged by strikov> <juju-core (Ubuntu Trusty):New for strikov> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1444037>
[16:42] <mup> Bug #1444576 was opened: Skipped TestUpgradeSteps* in cmd/jujud/agent/upgrade_test.go <skipped-test> <test-failure> <juju-core:Triaged> <juju-core 1.23:Triaged> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1444576>
[17:18] <mup> Bug #1434555 changed: ppc64el unit test timeout <blocks-release> <ci> <ppc64el> <regression> <unit-tests> <juju-core:Fix Released by wallyworld> <juju-core 1.23:Fix Released by wallyworld> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1434555>
[17:30] <mup> Bug #1434555 was opened: ppc64el unit test timeout <blocks-release> <ci> <ppc64el> <regression> <unit-tests> <juju-core:Fix Released by wallyworld> <juju-core 1.23:Fix Released by wallyworld> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1434555>
[17:36] <mup> Bug #1434555 changed: ppc64el unit test timeout <blocks-release> <ci> <ppc64el> <regression> <unit-tests> <juju-core:Fix Released by wallyworld> <juju-core 1.23:Fix Released by wallyworld> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1434555>
[22:14] <natefinch> marcoceppi_: you around?
[22:14] <natefinch> or lazyPower_ ?
[22:15] <marcoceppi_> natefinch: whats up?
[22:16] <natefinch> marcoceppi_: looking at the mongodb charm.... does it only provide username, port, and hostname in its rels as a database?
[22:16] <marcoceppi_> natefinch: probably. its an old ass charm
[22:17] <natefinch> Am I supposed to be able to find out what it sets from its documentation?
[22:20] <marcoceppi_> natefinch: in a perfect world yes. in the near future: yes, at this moment nothing like this exists
[22:20] <natefinch> marcoceppi_: fair enough
[22:21] <marcoceppi_> natefinch: it actually looks like it just sets hostname, port, type, and replset
[22:21] <marcoceppi_> authenticated acces was experimental at the time
[22:22] <natefinch> marcoceppi_: heh
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[09:49] <svaksha> belkinsa: Wanted to inform you that I got an Ubuntu-Women unsubscribe notification from mailman for your email. Just confirming that it was you and not a bot/spammer or smtp spoofing
[12:03] <belkinsa> svaksha, my Ubuntu e-mail is down that's why
[12:03] <Mikaela> did anyone say anything on #launchpad ?
[12:05] <belkinsa> I did.
[12:06] <Mikaela> I mean did you get any answers?
[12:06] <belkinsa> I did and i need to wait another two days to see if it worked
[12:07] <Mikaela> I see
[12:08] <svaksha> belkinsa: Then do sub with an alternate addy. You can always set it to `nomail` when the Ubuntu one is restored.
[12:08] <belkinsa> I'm doing that now
[12:08] <svaksha> If you have already subscribed ignore me
[12:09] <belkinsa> DOne
[12:11] <svaksha> fixing ALL bugs != fixing a bug
[12:11] <svaksha> oops wrong window
[12:14] <belkinsa> Well, the ubuntu address works again
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2015-04-15-#ubuntu-touch
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[03:41] <Jame> hello ?
[03:42] <Jame> which hero can help me about indicator?
[03:43] <Jame> I want send a special indicator to Notifications panel
[03:44] <Jame> the special indicator can show text/image and also can press button to do something
[03:44] <Jame> ?? help me !!
[03:48] <RAOF> Jame: What do you mean by a special indicator?
[03:48] <RAOF> If you'd like to add another icon, I believe the answer is “no, you don't get to do that”.
[03:48] <RAOF> But you'd be able to notify under the Notifications indicator.
[03:49] <RAOF> Which presumably has an API for quick actions, as the Messaging app uses it for replies.
[03:52] <Jame> I am Jame, I was forced to leave because of disconnection
[03:53] <Jame> so I can nnot receive
[03:53] <RAOF> Jame: What do you mean by a special indicator?
[03:53] <RAOF> If you'd like to add another icon, I believe the answer is “no, you don't get to do that”.
[03:53] <RAOF> But you'd be able to notify under the Notifications indicator.
[03:53] <RAOF> Which presumably has an API for quick actions, as the Messaging app uses it for replies.
[03:55] <Jame> do you know the exact API in messaging-app?
[03:55] <Jame> I can not find it
[03:57] <RAOF> Jame: I believe you're looking for https://developer.ubuntu.com/en/start/platform/guides/push-notifications-client-guide/
[04:13] <OrokuSaki> So... no support for CM-11.0 like SailFish?
[04:14] <OrokuSaki> Howdy ogra_: =)
[04:14] <OrokuSaki> I like the new kernel script by the way
[05:24] <Jame> Hi RAOF: I have read https://developer.ubuntu.com/en/start/platform/guides/push-notifications-client-guide/, it's relative to network, but my requirement just in local device . so my direction still is the indicator!
[05:25] <RAOF> Jame: Sorry, I don't know. I'd expect it to be possible, though.
[05:32] <Jame> Now I need an example which can send indicator to the Notifications panel!
[05:33] <Jame> It is a bit difficult for me, because I am a beginner about Ubuntu Touch!
[05:38] <Jame> please help me , hero !
[06:22] <robin-hero> Hi all! Did the new OTA update release?
[06:38] <nhaines> Nope!
[06:39] <nhaines> You'll know when it does, becuase there will be a daily announcement in the Landing Team summary. Also your phone will tell you there's an update.
[06:39] <robin-hero> nhaines: But there was no landing e-mail yesterday.
[06:39] <nhaines> And likewise no OTA release.
[06:40] <robin-hero> But it is in the OTA channel since 2 days: http://people.canonical.com/~lzemczak/landing-team/ota/
[06:40] <nhaines> They're just making sure it doesn't cause phones to catch on fire and explode.
[06:41] <nhaines> That's not the release channel.
[06:41] <robin-hero> ahh :) i don't know that
[06:41] <nhaines> Anyway, OTA updates have to go through some kind of regulatory testing.
[06:41] <nhaines> That *will* be the update log, if QA lab phones don't catch on fire. :)
[06:42] <robin-hero> :)
[06:42] <robin-hero> just strange there was no e-mail yesterday...
[06:42] <nhaines> It happens sometimes when they're busy and nothing else is going on.
[06:42] <nhaines> But yes, they're so reliable and dedicated that it always makes me look twice when it's missing too. :)
[06:45] <robin-hero> :)
[06:46] <robin-hero> I saw a lot of times the following word: "Arale". Is it a codename for a device? For MX4? :) I questioned it earlier, but noone answered. :)
[07:06] <Jame> hero ? How to send indicator to the Notifications panel, like messaging, missed incoming call and so on
[07:22] <Jame> Anyone familiar with messaging-app?
[07:23] <robin-hero> Is bq aquaris E4.5 supports FM Radio? Just the Ubuntu touch doesn't support it yet?
[07:23] <Jame> or indicator-messages-service ?
[07:23] <Jame> please help me ?
[07:24] <robin-hero> Jame: It is too early yet, developers will be here later.
[07:27] <Jame> About how long ah?
[07:30] <ogra_> robin-hero, right, the bq has a chip but there is no platform support for FM radio currently
[07:30] <robin-hero> ogra_: And its it WIP?
[07:31] <ogra_> it is on the TODO, not sure who works on it
[07:32] <robin-hero> okay, it's and the navigation are what I miss in Ubuntu Touch :)
[07:36] <ogra_> there are a bunch of nice internet radio apps in the store for the time being
[07:36] <ogra_> (and yeah, navigation needs love, no doubt)
[07:43] <robin-hero> ogra_: Any info about the OTA ? :) (I know I always asking this, but I am curoius :D )
[07:44] <ogra_> soon :)
[07:45] <robin-hero> i am none the wiser for it :D
[07:45] <ogra_> lol
[07:46] <AskUbuntu> Can Ubuntu Touch apps access bluetooth? Which policy groups do I need? | http://askubuntu.com/q/609493
[07:46] <ogra_> i think it is at bq for the final QA run ... but i'm not sure
[07:49] <robin-hero> ogra_: Thanks, so If everything goes well the update will release later today :)
[07:50] <ogra_> or tomorrow, yeah
[07:50] <robin-hero> :(
[08:48] <JamesTait> Good morning all; happy Microvolunteering Day! :-D
[08:51] <robin-hero> morning
[08:53] <brunch875> 'gmorning!
[08:54] <matv1> anyone having experience with http POST using XMLHttpRequest in js within qml ?
[08:54] <matv1> its doing my head in :(
[09:00] <lotuspsychje> http://news.softpedia.com/news/First-Ubuntu-Touch-Devel-Version-Based-on-Vivid-Is-Out-478430.shtml
[09:02] <ogra_> hmm, a bit more research would have helped :P
[09:02] <ogra_> (it is the second vivid based devel image, the first one was in december)
[09:02] <lotuspsychje> lol
[09:03] <robin-hero> from the article: "The development branch has been updated after a long time, but this is actually the second update in the series."
[09:03] <ogra_> yeah :)
[09:03] <ogra_> it is even quoted in the article
[09:04] <lotuspsychje> and touch can be installed on nexus7 also
[09:09] <matv1> or can anyone point me to source of a qml app using that?
[09:14] <AskUbuntu> Is it possible to get ota updates after making system rw? | http://askubuntu.com/q/609516
[09:20] <robin-hero> Hi! Can I make a backup from my SMS messages and restore on an other image (r20 to r22)?
[09:23] <popey> robin-hero: they're in a database in your home directory, so I suspect you probably can
[09:23] <ogra_> run find for "history-service" that should show you a .db file
[09:26] <robin-hero> "find for "history-service"" is this a command?
[09:26] <ogra_> a suggestion :)
[09:28] <robin-hero> thanks :) I need to go now, I'll try to solve it :)
[09:50] <seb128> do we have a bug open about some icons being duplicated in the dash sometime?
[09:50] <seb128> I suspect that it's for pre-installed apps which also get updates through the store
[09:50] <ogra_> that shouldnt happen
[09:50] <ogra_> only if the app namespace changed and the developer didnt remove the old app from the store
[09:51] <ogra_> preinstalled apps should all come from the store with the same namespace, if they dont, thats an app bug
[09:52] <seb128> my vivid tablet ha a duplicate gallery
[09:52] <ogra_> thats surely a bug
[09:52] <seb128> duplicated music and twitter as well
[09:53] <popey> never seen that!
[09:54] <ogra_> i have, but onyl with my own apps if i use two different namespaces for local testing
[09:54] <popey> right
[09:54] <popey> i mean, not under "normal" circumstances
[09:54] <ogra_> yeah
[09:56] <seb128> well, that n7 is a stock device that I use to test vivid
[09:57] <PhilippeP> After inserting a SD card, how to say to the phone (bq) to use it ? global or per app settings ?
[10:09] <ogra_> PhilippeP, music, videos and documents that you put on the SD should just show up everywhere automatically, the system should just start to use it if it was properly formatted as vfat ... else you need to format it with the "external devices" tool first
[10:10] <nik90> ogra_: is there a way to detect a SD card storage point? At the moment all apps write to .local/share/app-name, or to .config/app-name
[10:10] <ogra_> nik90, no, not yet ...
[10:10] <ogra_> the camera app does something like that though ...
[10:11] <ogra_> but camera is also kind of special
[10:11] <mcphail> PhilippeP: you have to select "sd card for storage" from the camera app if you want to use that
[10:11] <nik90> well I know about app_armor permissions that one can add to the apparmor file to request access to any write location
[10:12] <nik90> I will check out the camera app code to see how they check sd card storage
[10:12] <ogra_> we dont have a storage framework in the platform api yet
[10:12] <ogra_> that is supposed to solve it
[10:12] <ogra_> i think camera does it directly, which is not an option for store apps
[10:12] <PhilippeP> ogra_: ok , it's installed , recognized and reformatted ... I'll try put something on it and test
[10:13] <ogra_> PhilippeP, it should also show up via USB on your desktop in the file manager
[10:13] <ogra_> so you can drag/drop your music etc
[10:13] <PhilippeP> mcphail: I've tried but the camera app does not show the SD option ...
[10:13] <mcphail> PhilippeP: drag up the menu from the bottom
[10:13] <nothingspecial> I have the boot loop thing on my bq. I have tried this http://askubuntu.com/questions/602035/how-do-i-use-ubuntu-device-flash-with-the-bq-aquaris-e4-5 but no joy. I get "Failed to enter Recovery" and the phone continues to boot loop.
[10:14] <PhilippeP> mcphail: that's what I did (i found a screenshot ona askubuntu ... but the SD button does not show up
[10:14] <Jame> hello ? in indicator-messages-service, there is a line call indicator_messages_service_skeleton_new in the main function of the file src/messages-service.c. please where is
[10:14] <Jame> hello ? in indicator-messages-service, there is a line call indicator_messages_service_skeleton_new in the main function of the file src/messages-service.c. please where is from ？
[10:14] <ogra_> nothingspecial, did you use the --recovery-image option with the recovery.img file that is linked there ?
[10:15] <nothingspecial> yes
[10:15] <ogra_> and you had the device properly in bootloader mode and used --bootstrap ?
[10:16] <nothingspecial> ogra_: yes I used --bootstrap, what do you mean properly in bootloader mode?
[10:16] <Jame> I do not know where is indicator_messages_service_skeleton_new
[10:16] <ogra_> i mean that it wasnt in recovery but in the bootloader (which is a bit tricky to select with the volume keys as described in the article)
[10:17] <mcphail> PhilippeP: no idea then. Have you tried closing the camera app fully and reopening after inserting/formatting sd card?
[10:17] <Jame> who can help me?
[10:17] <ogra_> Jame, #ubuntu-app-devcel is probably a better channel for such questions
[10:17] <ogra_> #ubuntu-app-devel
[10:17] <nothingspecial> ogra_: it was in fastboot rather than recovery. Choosing recovery just starts the bootloop again
[10:18] <Jame> thanks
[10:18] <ogra_> did it show up in "fastboot devices" on the when it was in that mode ?
[10:18] <ogra_> *on the PC
[10:19] <nothingspecial> ogra_: how do I check that? The phone did say stuff like "transfering" and stuff like that after running the flash
[10:19] <klbik> Hi, i`m trying to develop simple ubuntu application. This application should connect to remove mysql server, query and display data in UbuntuListView. Project was created in Qt Creator 3.1.1 as QML app with c++ plugin (cmake). In my cpp class, i connect to mysql server using QSqlDatabase db = QSqlDatabase::addDatabase("QMYSQL"); according to qt documentation. On my desktop (ubuntu 14.04) application works fine (after installi
[10:20] <klbik> to run this application on my aquaris E4.5 ubuntu edition i got this error: QSqlDatabase: QMYSQL driver not loaded QSqlDatabase: available drivers: QSQLITE Open database: false Do yo have any ideas ?
[10:21] <PhilippeP> mcphail: i will reboot the phone and continue after lunch :) thanks anyway
[10:22] <PhilippeP_Lunch> mcphail: the rebbot did the trick :) now lunch
[10:22] <mcphail> enjoy!
[10:23] <tosky> klbik: I'm not a Ubuntu touch developer, but it looks like the Qt version shipped with Ubuntu Touch lacks the Qt mysql driver
[10:23] * mcphail notes that should probably be a bug report
[10:23] <ogra_> PhilippeP_Lunch, ah, there is a bug open for that and i think a fix for it is in this weeks OTA image
[10:23] <mcphail> \o/
[10:23] <ogra_> tosky, for what reason would we run a database server on a phone ?
[10:24] <ogra_> or even waste space on disk for it
[10:24] <tosky> ogra_: I was just stating what I saw; to answer your question, well, it depends on your definition of database...
[10:25] <ogra_> there is sqlite and U1DB support
[10:25] <Elleo> ogra_: I think he wants to connect to a remote mysql server, not run one locally
[10:25] <ogra_> if you want to writre an app using the mysql driver, i guess you will have to ship it with the click package of the app
[10:26] <tosky> klbik: see what ogra_ says ^^
[10:26] * tosky is just the messenger
[10:27] <tosky> ogra_: I guess it was already asked, but is there some support (or at least it's not forbidden) for inter-app shared libraries?
[10:27] <ogra_> Elleo, sure, but we cant ship each and every possible Ot extension by default ... i would love if we had a proper Terminal that i can embed in apps but would have to use the Terminal implementation that the terminal app ships if i would do that
[10:28] <ogra_> tosky, no, there isnt ... you app cant look over the fence and only has access to very few dirs on disk
[10:28] <ogra_> even sharing data between apps needs to go through a controlled system service
[10:28] <ogra_> (content-hub/url-dispatcher)
[10:28] <tosky> ogra_: and it's not planned at all? I see it as a big blocker for porting some huge applications to the device
[10:29] <tosky> (again, I think this was for sure already asked)
[10:29] <ogra_> once the phone switches to snappy it will be possible to have framework packages
[10:29] <tosky> snappy?
[10:29] <ogra_> at the current state you would have to have the libs included in the platform api
[10:29] <tosky> oh, I see, snappy
[10:29] <ogra_> yes, snappy ... the future of ubuntu :)
[10:30] <klbik> tosky: i`m reading it..
[10:31] <ogra_> what exactly do you plan to port/write ?
[10:31] <tosky> I guess it's too early to ask for a rough deadline (six months? One year)?
[10:31] <ogra_> closer to the latter i fear
[10:31] <tosky> well, I'm not planning right now to port, but I suspect many in the KDE community could look at the device
[10:31] <tosky> with Frameworks 5 we have tons of small libraries
[10:32] <ogra_> snappy completely relies on systemd ... the phone kernels we use are to old ... systemd dropped support for them in a recent update
[10:33] <ogra_> until that problem is solved, you wont see a snappy port ... and i'm not sure the framework idea will be included in the "normal" phone build, it would be throw-away work
[10:33] <ogra_> so for now you have to bundle your libs in the click package
[10:34] <zbenjamin> ogra_: hey i currently upgraded my phone to the new devel-proposed image. It now has the 15.04 fw but apps using the framework will just close
[10:34] <tosky> yes, I understand, it would be a lot of throw-away work
[10:34] <zbenjamin> ogra_: is there a known problem?
[10:34] <ogra_> zbenjamin, i'm not sure the 15.04 framework is already shipped, i think lool took care of that
[10:35] <zbenjamin> ogra_: click framework list on the device shows it already
[10:35] <ogra_> file a bug then
[10:35] <ogra_> probably something is wrong
[10:35] <zbenjamin> ogra_: whats the right place for that?
[10:35] <ogra_> (and let lool know)
[10:36] <ogra_> ubuntu-touch-meta for general framework stuff
[10:37] <ogra_> zbenjamin, did you check your app lo for errors btw ?
[10:38] <ogra_> *log
[10:38] <zbenjamin> ogra_: the log is not even created
[10:38] <ogra_> (perhaps it isnt actually framework related at all)
[10:38] <ogra_> oh, wow
[10:38] <zbenjamin> ogra_: changing the fw back to 14.10 makes it work
[10:38] <ogra_> anythin in the ubuntu-app-launch log ?
[10:38] <zbenjamin> ogra_: where is that again?
[10:38] <ogra_> ~/.cache/upstart/
[10:40] <ogra_> hmm, or not :/
[10:41] <zbenjamin> ogra_: hm something changed. it started to work oO
[10:41] <ogra_> lol
[10:42] <zbenjamin> lets see after a reboot
[10:45] <zbenjamin> ogra_: interesting its failing again after the reboot
[10:48] <EdwardMorbius> Is OTA-3 out yet?
[10:50] <popey> EdwardMorbius: no.
[10:51] <EdwardMorbius> ok, I read on the mailing list something about Wednesday so I thought it might be out.
[10:52] <AskUbuntu> How do I deploy an app to my Ubuntu phone with the Ubuntu SDK? | http://askubuntu.com/q/609546
[10:59] <zbenjamin> ogra_: weird the ubuntu-app-launch log seems to be nowhere oO
[11:06] <AskUbuntu> Building ubuntu touch app with sql (mysql) support problem | http://askubuntu.com/q/609553
[11:20] <AskUbuntu> BQ Aquaris E4.5 sound not working in web applications and mediaplayer | http://askubuntu.com/q/609558
[11:24] <jgdx> abeato, good day sir, any luck?
[11:58] <Se7> hellou
[12:02] <AskUbuntu> AppArmor blocks XMLHttpRequest on phone qmlapp | http://askubuntu.com/q/609571
[12:02] <abeato> jgdx, completely forgot this morning, I'm gonna try now
[12:02] <jgdx> abeato, good s tuff
[12:02] <nhaines> Huh, I just tried to switch my Nexus 7 from devel-proposed to devel, but 'system-image-cli --list-channels' only shows devel-proposed.
[12:03] <nhaines> I wonder if this is an artifact of MultiROM Manager.
[12:03] <jgdx> Norwegians won at caffeine: http://stackoverflow.com/research/developer-survey-2015#tech-caffeine
[12:03] <jgdx> AMA
[12:09] <abeato> jgdx, cannot reproduce now, arale / vivid
[12:09] <jgdx> abeato, and I can't repro on krillin/vivid nor mako/vivid. I wonder if this was something beneath libqofono and Settings.
[12:09] <jgdx> ofono or dbus or something
[12:09] <jgdx> (not likely)
[12:10] <abeato> jgdx, difficult to say... probably a race condition of some kind :-/
[12:10] <abeato> the bad thing is that maybe it will reappear in the future
[12:10] <abeato> probably it depends on the start-up order of something
[12:21] <jgdx> abeato, actually, you used an image from 26th of January. 17th of February there was a small refactor of Settings's technology code (to make has3G work).
[12:22] <abeato> jgdx, ok, I guess that could have changed things
[12:22] <jgdx> abeato, that refactor included improved libqofono0.7 support. Libqofono0.7 landed 14th of January.
[12:23] <jgdx> so there was a month with suboptimal libqofono0.7 support. Could be it.
[12:23] <abeato> jgdx, I see... well maybe that fixed something... or maybe it juts hide the bug away ;)
[12:24] <abeato> jgdx, anyway as it is not reproducible now maybe you can change to invalid
[12:24] <abeato> we can re-open if we see it again
[12:24] <jgdx> abeato, I'm cautiously going to say it was the former. Not to say libqofono broke API, but a lot changed 14th of January.
[12:24] <jgdx> abeato, roger
[12:25] <abeato> sure
[13:04] <zbenjamin> ted: where does ubuntu-app-launch put its logs these days?
[13:34] <chookey> Hello Guys! Any news about today's OTA update?
[13:34] <brunch875> today?
[13:35] <brunch875> are we getting updates today?
[13:36] <k1l> updates updates updates. who doesnt like updates :)
[13:36] <ogra_> geez ... kids ...
[13:37] <brunch875> ogra, give us candy
[13:37] <ogra_> updates are like a good wine ... let them ripen long enough ...
[13:38] <popey> then smash them against a boat?
[13:38] <ogra_> only the sparkling ones
[13:41] <brunch875> hm... is the calendar bugged now?
[13:41] <brunch875> It doesn't sync with google anymore
[13:42] <brunch875> whoopety do https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-calendar-app/+bug/1442931
[13:43] <BOHverkill> i was wondering why the music is not playing: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/pulseaudio/+bug/1438486 ;)
[13:43] <chookey> brunch875: I read it somewhere
[13:44] <chookey> did it change?
[13:44] <brunch875> What did change?
[13:44] <chookey> the OTA's release date
[13:44] <brunch875> it's all news for me
[13:45] <chookey> I read this wednesday in an email
[13:45] <brunch875> If it's today I can't wait :))
[13:45] <chookey> landing email: "Another good news is that we pushed our OTA-3 release candidate to the RC channel today. This still needs some testing both on our and BQ side, but at least krillin #270 passed our QA team's regression testing - which is good. The planned ETA for the OTA-3 official release is this week's Wednesday."
[13:45] <brunch875> oh, I've read that too
[13:46] <brunch875> but I skimmed through because I was enroute so I missed the last bit
[13:46] <brunch875> thought it was only RC stuff
[13:46] <brunch875> I can't wait to see the amount of stuff fixed.
[13:47] <kenvandine> dednick, see my latest comment on https://code.launchpad.net/~nick-dedekind/ubuntu-system-settings/1390136.laggy-backends/+merge/253395
[13:48] <kenvandine> dednick, i ran the CI job twice, same failure
[13:48] <dednick> kenvandine: ok. i'll take a look
[13:48] <kenvandine> but other branches passed during the same timeframe
[13:48] <kenvandine> the test that's failing might be misleading
[13:48] <kenvandine> dednick, thx
[13:49] <seb128> pete-woods, hey, is https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/indicator-network-prompt still a thing/useful?
[13:49] <pete-woods> seb128: no, it's a dead project
[13:50] <seb128> pete-woods, we should maybe ask for it to be removed from ubuntu then, it current fails to build
[13:50] <seb128> pete-woods, can you do that? https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/indicator-network-prompt/+filebug
[13:50] <pete-woods> seb128: that sounds like a good idea
[13:50] <seb128> I can do the removal
[13:50] <seb128> just dump a 1 line reason for the recod
[13:50] <seb128> record
[13:51] <seb128> like "supersedeed by unity8 dialogs" or something
[13:53] <pete-woods> seb128: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/indicator-network-prompt/+bug/1444484
[13:53] <seb128> pete-woods, thanks
[13:54] <seb128> pete-woods, what about unity-voice? seems to have your name as well on it, if so can you review https://code.launchpad.net/~laney/unity-voice/update-symbols-file/+merge/255941 ?
[13:54] <pete-woods> seb128: that one's less clear. it provides the voice recognition for HUD
[13:54] <BOHverkill> my bluetooth headphones are working on my bq :D
[13:54] <pete-woods> but you can't access that any more since we removed HUD from the phone
[13:55] <seb128> pete-woods, k, maybe just accept the .symbol update to fix the build then?
[13:55] <pete-woods> seb128: that works for me
[13:55] <seb128> cool
[14:00] <BOHverkill> but the controls are not working :(
[14:02] <kenvandine> dednick, i dunno, i looked at the numbers of passing tests and indeed it looks like all the tests ran, and all except that one test failed
[14:02] <kenvandine> and i struggle to see why your branch could cause that
[14:03] <kenvandine> but that test did pass for other branches yesterday
[14:03] * kenvandine scratches head
[14:03] <seb128> pete-woods, thanks
[14:03] <kenvandine> jgdx, is ubuntu_system_settings.tests.test_datetime.TimeDateTestCase.test_tz_list_initially_empty the test that's commonly flaky?
[14:04] <jgdx> kenvandine, aye
[14:04] <kenvandine> that same test keeps failing in dednick's branch, but not failing in some other branches
[14:06] <kenvandine> jgdx, dednick: i kicked another rebuild with hopes to see it pass
[14:07] <kenvandine> dednick, i think that is a known flaky test, so maybe it's just bad luck :)
[14:07] <dednick> kenvandine: ya. i didnt think it was related.
[14:07] <dednick> will check on the build later.
[14:07] <kenvandine> thx, just don't waste time on it yet :)
[14:08] <kenvandine> dednick, i'll come yelling if you need to :)
[14:10] <kenvandine> mandel, ping again about those branches that need rebasing :)
[14:10] <brunch875> what the hell are the 'silos'?
[14:10] * kenvandine has his nag hat on today :)
[14:11] <kenvandine> jgdx, you're handling getting silo 6 unblocked for qa right?
[14:11] <jgdx> kenvandine, yes
[14:11] <kenvandine> cool
[14:12] <jgdx> kenvandine, wanted to ask you: does the security ap test suite mock the passcode/passphrase stuff?
[14:13] <kenvandine> for sim pin? or the other locking?
[14:13] <kenvandine> i mocked the sim pin stuff, but no idea about screen locking
[14:15] <jgdx> kenvandine, got it
[14:15] <seb128> jgdx, https://code.launchpad.net/~seb128/ubuntu-system-settings/security-focus-correct-entry/+merge/254804 rejected?!
[14:16] <seb128> jgdx, you could at least comment saying why
[14:16] <lool> ogra_: 15.04 frameworks are in archive/images, enabled in store, and I believe in SDK too
[14:16] <jgdx> seb128, sorry, added comment
[14:17] <ogra_> lool, hmm, ok ... somethin does not seem to work right though ... for zbenjamin
[14:17] <seb128> shrug
[14:17] <seb128> jgdx, you could ask for tests to be added rather than reject
[14:17] <jgdx> seb128, this is what you asked me?
[14:17] <seb128> jgdx, I don't understand why the branch is rejected
[14:17] <jgdx> seb128, because I'm proposing it instead. I thought you had no time.
[14:17] <seb128> jgdx, if we need tests that doesn't make that one invalid, it just means we need to stack another changeset or commit on top to add a test
[14:18] <kenvandine> set it back to needs fixing and comment
[14:18] <zbenjamin> lool: hi, apps don't start with th 15.04 fw
[14:18] <seb128> jgdx, yeah, I'm busy this week and travelling next, but you could keep the branch and mp a commit adding tests on top of that one
[14:18] <jgdx> seb128, and miss the window? why
[14:18] <seb128> what window?
[14:18] <jgdx> vivid
[14:19] <seb128> I don't understand how rejecting it makes a difference
[14:19] <seb128> do you want to reproduce another one with code change + a tesT?
[14:19] <jgdx> seb128, then it's not depending on you having time for it
[14:19] <seb128> well, it's not
[14:20] <seb128> as said you could have branched my vcs, added a test on top and proposed another mp adding the test stacked on mine
[14:20] <seb128> without rejecting
[14:20] <seb128> nor delaying
[14:20] <lool> zbenjamin: could you run them by hand on the device and see what's going on?
[14:20] <lool> zbenjamin: .cache/upstart might be where the logs are
[14:20] <jgdx> seb128, I'm fine either way, but this was the only way forward if you were on a train or at a conference
[14:20] <seb128> jgdx, anyway, not worth the discussion, sorry, the logic just seems weird to me
[14:21] <seb128> jgdx, I'm unsure to understand why, that one is already approved
[14:21] <jgdx> seb128, then qa rejected it
[14:21] <seb128> jgdx, you stacking something else on top doesn't rely on me being here
[14:21] <seb128> right, because it's incomplete/without test
[14:21] <kenvandine> jgdx, the branch adding the test could just prereq on seb128's branch
[14:21] <jgdx> … yes
[14:21] <seb128> what kenvandine says
[14:22] <seb128> anyway, it's a detail
[14:22] <jgdx> two commits that should be one?
[14:22] <seb128> sorry for the noise ;-)
[14:22] <seb128> why should they be one?
[14:22] <seb128> I wouldn't be shocked by those being 2 commits
[14:22] <jgdx> because they are :) It's a fix and then a test for said fix
[14:23] <seb128> k, fair enough
[14:24] <zbenjamin> lool: hmm what is the correct policy version for 15.04 fw?
[14:24] <lool> zbenjamin: I thought 1.2
[14:27] <zbenjamin> lool: ok then that is not the problem
[14:31] <lool> zbenjamin: so what do the log say?
[14:33] <zbenjamin> lool: wait the aa policy might still be wrong. When i change it to 1.3 it starts to work. However what confused me was that changing it back to 1.2 won't make it break again without rebooting the phone
[14:33] <zbenjamin> lool: is it possible that this value is cached somewhere?
[14:38] <jgdx> seb128, I'm compulsive, sorry about the noise!
[14:38] <seb128> jgdx, no worry, thanks for fixing it/writing the test
[15:30] <jgdx> seb128, do you have time to write the manual tests?
[15:30] <seb128> jgdx, I guess I can do that
[15:33] <studio_> hi
[15:36] <jgdx> seb128, here's your branch, which I stole, with tests :D https://code.launchpad.net/~jonas-drange/ubuntu-system-settings/security-focus-correct-entry/+merge/256345
[15:36] <jgdx> dat sweet launchpad karma
[15:38] <seb128> jgdx, that test would fail on a device which is currently using swipe to unlock no?
[15:38] <seb128> no change password button in that case?
[15:39] <jgdx> seb128, I debated that, but when is that the case?
[15:40] <jgdx> seb128, I have code for that. Give me a sec.
[15:42] <seb128> jgdx, dunno, dev desktop with autologin?
[15:42] <seb128> jgdx, I'm unsure if it's a case happening atm in practice, but it could mean a flacky test and we have enough issues with those
[15:42] <jgdx> seb128, I tested that case, it won't say it's swipe
[15:43] <seb128> right
[15:43] <seb128> theorical issue then, but could be practical one day
[15:43] <seb128> like dev on your tablet
[15:43] <jgdx> seb128, yeah, agreed
[15:43] <seb128> which you configured to swipe unlock
[15:44] <studio_> who can help? i was able to build cifs- nfs- nfsd- and some other .ko for the bq e4.5. after i flashed the new kernel and loaded all modules, in the right order, dmesg showed me a lot errors with symbolic links. and after a reboot, i was hanging in a boot-loop. boot-loop is fixed for now. but cifs, nfs and nfsd are still not working :(
[15:45] <jgdx> seb128, have you been able to get a shell without setting a pass?
[15:46] <jgdx> I guess I could run autopilot tests from the terminal on the phone :p
[15:52] <seb128> jgdx, you can't adb with slide to unlock, but yeah you could run them locally from the device
[15:52] <seb128> jgdx, om26er, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Process/Merges/TestPlan/ubuntu-system-settings?action=diff&rev2=77&rev1=76
[15:52] <seb128> was there other changes that needed to be listed in there?
[16:02] <studio_> is someone from bq here?
[16:02] <jgdx> seb128, I'm not able to run it locally, autopilot3-sandbox-run does not use xvfb
[16:03] <jgdx> and when the terminal is paused it stops the test
[16:04] <seb128> jgdx, I guess you could ssh to the device while it's in swipe to unlock
[16:07] <jgdx> seb128, you gotta love the ubuntu phone
[16:07] <seb128> jgdx, :-)
[16:07] <jgdx> seb128, so the test always sees passphrase. I'm not sure what's going on.
[16:08] <popey> studio_: wassup?
[16:08] <seb128> jgdx, weird...
[16:08] <jgdx> seb128, indeed, but I'll add a case for it either way
[16:08] <seb128> jgdx, thanks
[16:12] <mcphail> Is anyone from the calculator app team here?
[16:12] <studio_> popey, i need a patch/diff for the E4.5 kernel my work to build just *.ko was not working.
[16:14] <studio_> i was able to build *.ko and load them, but dmesg do not like my work ...
[16:16] <popey> mcphail: rpadovani is
[16:16] <om26er> seb128, thats good, thanks
[16:16] <popey> mcphail: what's up?
[16:16] <seb128> om26er, thanks
[16:16] <rpadovani> mcphail, o/
[16:16] <popey> studio_: bq don't build the kernel, we do.
[16:17] <studio_> ?
[16:17] <studio_> i am confused ...
[16:17] <studio_> who made the git?
[16:17] <mcphail> popey: rpadovani: just a wee usability bug. In portrait mode on the bq phone, the lower row of buttons are difficult to click because the UI registers a click on hte bottom drag-bar instead
[16:18] <popey> mcphail: can you file a bug please?
[16:18] <mcphail> popey: yep
[16:19] <rpadovani> mcphail, that's indeed true. But I don't know how much we can do, we should work with bottom edge developer
[16:21] <studio_> popey, i was able to build all these modules and load them: http://paste.ubuntu.com/10827715/ but they are not working :(
[16:22] <studio_> symbolic links are wrong
[16:22] <dobey> studio_: i guess you didn't build them correctly then, or something else is missing in your build
[16:23] <studio_> "or something else is missing in your build" yes, but what?
[16:24] <popey> welcome to "building kernels for beginners" :)
[16:24] <studio_> :)
[16:24] <popey> mcphail: does this happen both ways round? i.e. left rotate and right rotate?
[16:26] <brunch875> popey: yes, it's the same problem sideways
[16:26] <mcphail> popey: seems to be less of a problem in landscape mode but can still happen
[16:26] <mcphail> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-calculator-app/+bug/1444564
[16:26] <studio_> popey, how to patch these mt-things in "~/aquaris-E4.5/mediatek/config/mt6582/autoconfig/kconfig/platform"?
[16:26] <popey> thanks mcphail
[16:27] <mcphail> np
[16:27] <popey> studio_: no idea, I haven't compiled a kernel for 10 years
[16:27] <studio_> so who can help?
[16:29] <studio_> popey, "studio_: bq don't build the kernel, we do." who is "we"?
[16:30] <beuno> studio_, Canonical
[16:30] <studio_> Canonical made the git?
[16:30] <ogra_> no
[16:31] <ogra_> bq provides the git tree
[16:31] <studio_> no?
[16:31] <dobey> bq owns the repo
[16:31] <ogra_> canonical uses that same tree *inside* and android tree when we build the container tarball
[16:31] <dobey> ubuntu (canonical) compiles the kernel that is shipped in the device image, from source
[16:31] <ogra_> we never build akernel standalone ... like you do from that git repo
[16:32] <brunch875> mcphail, popey: I believe the issue itself is that the favourite drag isn't set to the bottom swipe gesture rather than being associated to where the 'favourite' tab is.
[16:32] <brunch875> On landscape mode it's nearly impossible to pull out the favourite tab; swiping will change between applications. Swiping from bottom (which should be the proper behaviour) does nothing when on landscape mode.
[16:32] <dobey> studio_: did you not use 'make menuconfig' to re-configure the kernel and enable the modules you wanted?
[16:32] <ogra_> so nobody in canlonical has muc experience with that git repo
[16:33] <ogra_> (except for john-mcaleely, who did a test build with the defaults to verify it works)
[16:33] <studio_> dobey, i am talking about https://github.com/bq/aquaris-E4.5/tree/aquaris-E4.5-ubuntu-master
[16:33] <john-mcaleely> ogra_, it is the same build, so there's not huge difference
[16:33] <john-mcaleely> and that repo emits the boot.img
[16:34] <john-mcaleely> one day, I plan to switch to it as upstream (so I built it with that in mind)
[16:34] <studio_> make menuconfig is not working with that build-system, only in /kernel, but after changing i can't build a new kernel.
[16:34] <dobey> studio_: no, you're complaining that your new modules arne't working
[16:35] <mcphail> brunch875: i see what you mean. Hadn't tried to expand the favourites bar before :)
[16:35] <john-mcaleely> the MTK build system is quite complex, and I, for one, don't understand it well :-)
[16:35] <ogra_> john-mcaleely, right, i just mean that most of us either build kernels the ubuntu way from a package or kernel.ubuntu.com git tree or inside an android build ... nobody actually uses the bq git tree at canonical
[16:35] <studio_> dobay, i expained that days before hot to buils *.ko
[16:35] <studio_> build
[16:35] <john-mcaleely> ogra_, your statement is true, but the 'in andriod build step' the the one I document in that repo
[16:35] <ogra_> right
[16:35] <john-mcaleely> (is) is missin there
[16:35] <studio_> you need to modify the "project"
[16:36] <dobey> studio_: if all you did was add a few CONFIG_ directives to the existing config file, you are almost certainly missing some things that using menuconfig would have also enabled if you'd chosen to build those modules via it
[16:36] <studio_> i gave up ... :(
[16:36] <ogra_> dobey, the prob is that make menuconfig doesnt work in that tree
[16:37] <dobey> ogra_: well no, but it works in an upstream kernel tree
[16:37] <ogra_> so he will never be able to get the dependencies in the config right
[16:37] <dobey> ogra_: so grab an upstream 3.4 kernel tree, make menuconfig in it, and examine what CONFIG_ options are required for the modules in question, and ensure you've added them all to the config for the bq kernel, then build it
[16:37] <ogra_> right, that would work
[16:38] <ogra_> but is quite some effort :)
[16:38] <dobey> well, it's certainly not any more effort than asking people who don't work on the kernel, what config options are required, and never getting an answer you want
[16:38] <dobey> rather, it seems the obvious solution to me :)
[16:39] <dobey> it's unfortunate that menuconfig doens't work and the build system for the bq kernel is so complex and confusing, but there's not really anything we can do about that in this channel
[16:41] <jgdx> seb128, wanna take another look? https://code.launchpad.net/~jonas-drange/ubuntu-system-settings/security-focus-correct-entry/+merge/256345
[16:42] <jgdx> seb128, that test will shrink once the security test suite implements the page object pattern. But that's not right now.
[16:42] <seb128> jgdx, k
[16:51] <cotton> hi everyone :)
[16:53] <popey> hello
[16:53] <brunch875> hihi!
[16:55] <cotton> Will ubuntu touch update fast? Wil i see great improvements on my bq soon? Thanks for reading me
[16:56] <brunch875> from what I know the update is coming today (:
[16:56] <Se7> really brunch875 ?
[16:57] <brunch875> source: mailing lists
[16:57] <cotton> brunch875 Oooh really? :D
[16:57] <cotton> Thanks for answering me
[16:57] <Se7> no update yet :(
[16:57] <dobey> i think 'fast' depends somewhat on your internet connection and what version you're currently on. full images instead of deltas, take a bit longer to install
[16:57] <brunch875> landing email: "Another good news is that we pushed our OTA-3 release candidate to the RC channel today. This still needs some testing both on our and BQ side, but at least krillin #270 passed our QA team's regression testing - which is good. The planned ETA for the OTA-3 official release is this week's Wednesday."
[16:58] <dobey> and download
[16:58] <dobey> and it's mostly just bug fixes, no grand new features in it :)
[17:00] * Se7 waiting fot update
[17:06] <jgdx> seb128, no approve?
[17:06] <seb128> jgdx, I was waiting for the CI results
[17:06] <jgdx> ack
[17:09] <jgdx> seb128, could you kick off a silo build if ci passes?
[17:10] <jgdx> I'm not back until later tonight
[17:15] <sil2100> brunch875, Se7: remember that this is an ETA, so there might be some delays here and there especially that it's now in BQ's hands ;)
[17:16] <sil2100> If their testing takes a bit longer than usually, well, the OTA might need to wait till tomorrow
[17:18] <Se7> tnx sil2100 no probs
[17:22] <sil2100> OTA-3 mostly has stability fixes though, OTA-4 will be a bigger update as we will be basically switching to vivid with all its goodies
[17:25] <lool> zbenjamin: it should be 1.3; could you try again now?
[17:25] <lool> zbenjamin: I think it's pulled by SDK from the store, it should be 1.3 everywhere now
[17:28] <bzoltan> zbenjamin: where is it stored in the store?
[17:29] <bzoltan> lool: ^
[17:36] <brunch875> sil2100: Was counting on that! Thanks for the info, though; it confirms my thoughts.
[17:43] <lool> bzoltan: with the list of frameworks
[17:45] <bzoltan> lool: here? https://myapps.developer.ubuntu.com/dev/api/click-framework/
[18:18] <brunch875> It seems like we'll get the update tomorrow :| BQ has probably turned off the lights for today, it's past 8
[18:26] <studio_> ups, "ubuntu-touch/rc/ubuntu-developer" is looking nice! thanks for making this!
[18:27] <studio_> is ubuntu ui toolkit the desktop-manager?
[18:35] <studio_> hmm, it is still not supporting import contacts from the sim card ... why?
[18:36] <dobey> studio_: you still aren't running vivid i guess
[18:36] <dobey> the toolkit is the toolkit (ie, a bunch of qml widgets)
[18:37] <studio_> dobey, i was on vivid, but the "new one" got "nice tools"
[18:37] <dobey> i don't know what that means
[18:38] <studio_> ubuntu ui toolkit
[18:38] <dobey> afaik, sim contact support landed in vivid a while ago
[18:38] <dobey> i know what the toolkit is. i don't know what you mean by "new one" or "nice tools" though
[18:39] <studio_> i haven't seen "ubuntu ui toolkit" on vivid
[18:39] <studio_> nor here
[18:40] <dobey> sure you have. all the apps are written using that toolkit
[18:41] <studio_> sorry, that app is new to me
[18:41] <dobey> it isn't an app
[18:41] <dobey> the toolkit is the toolkit
[18:41] <studio_> sure
[18:41] <dobey> *sigh*
[18:41] <studio_> it is an app
[18:41] <dobey> no
[18:42] <studio_> it is listed under apps
[18:43] <studio_> if it is "now" listed now under apps it is not an app?
[18:44] <studio_> dobey, maybe i was blind, but i have never seen that icon before ...
[18:47] <studio_> dobey, are we talkig about the same thing?
[18:48] <dobey> i have no idea what you are talking about
[18:49] <dobey> studio_: you mean "Ubuntu UI Toolkit Gallery" app?
[18:49] <studio_> an app, shown on apps, called "ubuntu ui toolkit". do you have taht on your device?
[18:50] <dobey> no
[18:50] <studio_> aha!
[18:50] <dobey> there is an "Ubuntu UI Toolkit Gallery" in the store though
[18:50] <studio_> no
[18:50] <studio_> i mean "ubuntu ui toolkit".
[18:52] <zsombi_> studio_: may I ask you what are you precisely looking for? An application?
[18:53] <zsombi_> studio_: ubuntu ui toolkit itself is a set of QML components, nothing else
[18:53] <dobey> studio_: take a screenshot?
[18:53] <studio_> dobey, damnit, you was right! it called Ubuntu UI Toolkit Gallery, SORRY, my fault
[18:54] <studio_> but it was new to me
[18:54] <zsombi_> studio_: the app store has a "Ubuntu UI Toolkit Gallery" application which shows the widgets from the toolkit
[18:54] <dobey> so i guess it is installed by default on that channel for some reason
[18:54] <zsombi_> ok, so we're good then :)
[18:54] <dobey> of course i was right. you shouldn't doubt me :)
[18:55] <zsombi_> I never do :D
[18:55] <davmor2> dobey: I doubt you all the time :P
[18:55] <zsombi_> davmor2: shame on you :P
[18:56] <dobey> heh
[18:57] <zsombi_> noone should doubt dobey ;)
[18:57] <dobey> :)
[18:57] <dobey> now, where in this code was i
[18:57] <davmor2> zsombi_: I have to test his code, if I trusted him I wouldn't test it nearly as well, so I hate you all and attack your code with vengeful wrath to prove it :D I'm then nice to you when I hand you the bugs reports ;)
[18:58] <davmor2> dobey: right about where the cursor is
[18:58] <zsombi_> LOL
[19:00] <dobey> davmor2: right, but which emacs buffer :P
[19:00] <zbenjamin> lool: yep the problem was that it was using 1.2 instead of 1.3. Sadly there is currently no API that tells us what the right fw<->policy mapping is
[19:00] <zbenjamin> lool: the store just returns the list of available frameworks, could we introduce a field there that specifies the required policy?
[19:01] <davmor2> dobey: that one there :D
[20:32] <ulrichard> How can I install git on my new aquaris? This is what I get: $sudo apt-get install git -> E: Package 'git' has no installation candidate
[20:33] <beuno> ulrichard, git is git-core, right?
[20:33] <ulrichard> beuno: E: Package 'git-core' has no installation candidate
[20:34] <beuno> oh, it is git
[20:34] <ulrichard> beuno: I guess adding apt sources from the regular ubuntu repository is not such a good idea?
[20:34] <beuno> not sure then
[20:35] <ulrichard> I get the same for tig, nmap, htop .... seems to be a really incomplete repo.
[20:36] <beuno> ulrichard, did you apt-get update?
[20:36] <beuno> did you enable developer mode?
[20:36] <beuno> it doesnt have a special repo
[20:36] <ogra_> rtm only has whats needed to roll the image
[20:37] <ulrichard> beuno: yes I did update, but not dist-upgrade yet. But that souldn't matter here.
[20:37] <ogra_> beuno, well, it is a complete derivative distro :)
[20:37] <beuno> orly?
[20:37] <ulrichard> yes, developer mode is enabled, and root remounted as rw
[20:38] <mindspin2015> anybody in the mood to give a app-writing noob some hints?
[20:38] <ulrichard> ogra_ : What is the worst that could happen if I add apt sources from the regular repo?
[20:38] <ogra_> ulrichard, you have to re-flash :) but you will have to do that anyway at some point if you enable rw and use apt
[20:39] <ulrichard> ogra_ : So, would it be better to have a separate chroot with all the tools I need on the shell?
[20:39] <ogra_> ulrichard, yeah ...
[20:40] <ogra_> ulrichard, http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-core/daily-preinstalled/current/vivid-preinstalled-core-armhf.tar.gz ...
[20:40] <ogra_> untar that in /home/phablet and you got a proper basic 15.04 chroot to start from
[20:41] <ulrichard> ogra_ : ok thanks. I had something similar on my android. And I hoped I wouldn't have to do it that way on an ubuntu phone. Thanks anyway.
[20:42] <ogra_> ulrichard, well, the system is not realy designed for apt upgrades, they break at some point due to the underlying system design .. you can make the system writable and use debs, but only in a rather limited fashion ...
[20:43] <ogra_> and you risk that OTA upgrades break with makin the system rw
[20:43] <ogra_> the support for aptis more for 1) testing packages before they land on a device you re-flash regulary 2) developing system components on the plumbing layer
[20:44] <ulrichard> ogra_ : Is there a way to e.g. introduce udev rules without making the / rw ?
[20:44] <ogra_> nope
[20:44] <ogra_> and an OTA would revert your changes if you make them to any existing file
[20:45] <ogra_> you can indeed add new files and only make the system temporary rw
[20:45] <ogra_> i.e. to add/change them
[20:45] <ulrichard> ogra_ : Somewhere I read that once you switch to developer mode, you 'd go with dist-upgrades instead of OTA.
[20:46] <ogra_> no, dist-upgrades break
[20:46] <ogra_> the writability of the system is handled via a bind-mount farm into a writable partition ...
[20:46] <dobey> create a chroot and install any packages you actually need to use on the phone for some reason, inside it
[20:46] <ogra_> ... dpkg uses hard links when it replaces files on disk
[20:47] <ogra_> ... hard links do not work across partition boundaries
[20:47] <ogra_> so the packages are uninstalleble
[20:47] <dobey> mindspin2015: #ubuntu-app-devel might be the best place for that :)
[20:49] <ulrichard> ogra_ : Ok, not what I was hoping for, but at least I have the infos now.
[20:50] <mindspin2015> dobey Its very silent there ;-)
[20:50] <ogra_> ulrichard, if it is just stuff like htop i wouldnt even bothe with a chroot, but grab the binary deb from the utopic archive, pull the binary out and dump it to ~/bin/
[20:51] <dobey> mindspin2015: scrollback shows plenty of activity. just ask your question though. don't ask to ask. "can someone help me?" doesn't tell anyone else anything :)
[20:51] <dobey> ogra_: i still don't get why one would really want to install git and such on a phone, unless they were creating a build farm of phones or something :)
[20:53] <ulrichard> ogra_ : next thing would be python ...
[20:53] <robcecwet> where is the right place to report bugs for the YouTube webapp?
[20:53] <ogra_> dobey, because they can ;)
[20:53] <dobey> well, it's not in the archive, so not really ;)
[20:53] <ogra_> well, th archive is a derivative of utopic
[20:53] <dobey> i can go grab chrome and unpack it in ~/ too, but doesn't make it sensible
[20:53] <dobey> sure
[20:54] <ogra_> debs from ther will just work
[20:54] <dobey> robcecwet: whatever the "Support link" is in the app preview
[20:54] <ogra_> ulrichard, well, for that i would then go back to the chroot :)
[20:54] <ogra_> or use pypy or some such
[20:54] <dobey> well, python is on the phone, but may not have the modules you need
[20:55] <ogra_> right
[20:55] <dobey> but you can create a virtualenv or something in ~ easily enough for python
[20:55] <ogra_> the interpreter is there
[20:55] <dobey> as long as you don't need any C/C++ modules to be compiled anyway
[20:56] <ulrichard> ogra_ : I'll go with the chroot. Then I can just install whatever I need and don't have to find another solution for every tool I need.
[20:56] <ogra_> yeah
[20:57] <ogra_> ulrichard, do you actually plan to do development on the bq ?
[20:58] <ulrichard> ogra_ : Usually I just want to have a full blown shell with all the tools I need at my disposal. On my old phone I actually compiled parts of our CAD (c++) in the chroot, just to see how it performed.
[20:59] * ogra_ does that too, but only within the boundaries of the app framework .. which essentially means only QML ...
[20:59] <ogra_> i.e. i dont compile on the phone ...
[21:00] <ogra_> and in the end the laptop you use to ssh in or use adb from, is more powerful than the phone itself ... even if you use a qemu-arm-chroot
[21:00] <ulrichard> ogra_ : And I maintain my home dir in a git repository...
[21:01] <ulrichard> But the notebook doesn't fit into my pocket. .-)
[21:01] <ogra_> ah, then i understand the desire for git :)
[21:01] <ogra_> well ... do you really do any serious stuff on a 4.5" touchscreen keyboard ?
[21:01] <dobey> i wouldn't mix the home directory on the phone with the one on my workstation
[21:03] <ulrichard> I was pleasantly surprised that the tools required to use OpenPGP smartcard ssh auth are already installed.
[21:03] * ogra_ would have loved to drop all the adb stuff and do ssh only :)
[21:04] <ogra_> but phone factories are set up for adb ... so we had to keep it
[21:05] <ulrichard> ogra_ : I mean I plug my YubiKey into the phone and ssh into the server using the gpg key in the smartcard.
[21:05] <dobey> ogra_: that would indeed be nice
[21:06] <ogra_> dobey, i had the code ready for that ... when you plugged in USB it did set up an usb-net connection and fired up ssh ... but sadly we had to re-consider
[21:07] <ulrichard> Ah, something else, are external keyboards generally not working?
[21:07] <dobey> ogra_: awesome. maybe we can get it in for W :)
[21:08] <ogra_> ulrichard, some BT keyboards are working .... but all BT focus was on audio for the initial release so there are only barely supported atm
[21:08] <dobey> ulrichard: usb otg is generally not supported. some things may work. some bt keyboards may work as well, but it can be hit & miss with those (i've had hit & miss with them on actual PCs and such too)
[21:08] <ogra_> *they are
[21:09] <ogra_> after all it is a phone, not a PC ...
[21:09] <ogra_> but a full yhackabble phone ;)
[21:10] <BOHverkill> what is the bast way to migrate contacts to the bq (w/ sync)?
[21:10] <ogra_> BOHverkill, the easiest way is for sure to import them into google and have the phone sync them from there ...
[21:11] <BOHverkill> and with out google?
[21:11] <ogra_> you can import vcf files iirc
[21:12] <BOHverkill> how?
[21:12] <ogra_> the backend is syncevolution, all methods it supports for importing should work
[21:12] <ogra_> (from commandline though)
[21:12] <dobey> there is no UI for importing vcf files
[21:12] <ogra_> right
[21:12] <ogra_> the only UI import is google currentlly
[21:12] <BOHverkill> who needs an ui ;)
[21:13] <dobey> you can also import a vcf into evolution on ubuntu, and then just replace the contacts.db on the phone (which is what i did way back when)
[21:13] <ogra_> there was a thread on the ML about vcf importing
[21:13] <ulrichard> ogra_ : What do you thing about this: http://notyetthere.org/syncing-ubuntu-touch-with-owncloud-or-any-carddav-server/
[21:13] <BOHverkill> ogra_: ML?
[21:13] <ogra_> ulrichard, well, i usuall ytrsut mzanetti and his coding/hacking skills :)
[21:13] <dobey> someone was working on an owncloud app
[21:13] <ogra_> BOHverkill, mailing list
[21:13] <dobey> but i don't know if it's gotten anywhere
[21:13] <BOHverkill> oh
[21:14] <mzanetti> thanks ogra_ :)
[21:14] <ogra_> :)
[21:15] <BOHverkill> dobey: where is the contacts.db?
[21:15] <ogra_> ulrichard, there is also http://mitchellreese.id.au/owncloud-sync-on-ubuntu-touch/ ... that hit the mailing list today
[21:16] <ogra_> BOHverkill, https://lists.launchpad.net/ubuntu-phone/msg12058.html
[21:16] <dobey> BOHverkill: ~/.local/share/evolution/adddressbook/system/contacts.db is the default on the phone
[21:16] <BOHverkill> thx
[21:17] <ulrichard> ogra_ : Thanks for the link. I'll have a closer look tomorrow. Too tired now.
[21:17] <ogra_> enjoy the phone :)
[21:17] <dobey> BOHverkill: i imported into a new addressbook in evolution, so it was a different directory with a bunch of numbers and my computer's hostname, instead of "system"
[21:17] <BOHverkill> k
[21:18] <BOHverkill> i will try it tomorrow
[21:18] <ulrichard> I just tried three different BT Keyboards (2x logitech 1x adafruit). How are the chances one of them is going to work with the next upgrade?
[21:19] <ogra_> i dont think we did change much in the bluetooth area for this one ... but the next OTA will switch to vivid
[21:19] <ogra_> there the situation should be better
[21:19] <ogra_> so another 4-6 weeks
[21:20] <ogra_> (the current OTA will be released this week (hopefully))
[21:21] <ulrichard> Ok, I'll try again then.
[21:21] <ogra_> ulrichard, i know that mzanetti worked with some BT keyboards ... but i think onlly on the nexus devices ... probably he ca give you a pointer to working ones
[21:22] <ulrichard> ogra_ : It's not that important that I would buy another keyboard. But it would be nice to have one day.
[21:22] * ogra_ wonders if his keyboard missing keys is a good excuse for a new XPS13 :P
[21:23] <dobey> ogra_: 3200x1800 is a good enough excuse for a new one :)
[21:23] <ogra_> ulrichard, well, effectively we work towards the "your phone becomes a desktop" vision ... so the BT kbd support will definitely get better over time
[21:23] <ogra_> dobey, ha !
[21:23] <ulrichard> ogra_ : Yeah I also want a new XPS13, but I wait until I can pay with BitCoin in Switzerland.
[21:24] <ogra_> because the franken is to valuable ?
[21:24] <cwayne> ogra_, I just ordered one :P
[21:24] <ogra_> lol
[21:24] <ogra_> i'm still pondering ...
[21:24] <BOHverkill> are there changelogs for the OTAs?
[21:24] <dobey> i almost ordered one today
[21:24] <ogra_> my old one is theoretically still good
[21:24] <dobey> but it wouldn't be here before my sprint :-/
[21:24] <ogra_> BOHverkill, i think sil2100 is assembling one
[21:25] <BOHverkill> k
[21:25] <ogra_> or at least something that comes close to a changelog
[21:25] <BOHverkill> ;)
[21:25] <dobey> my old one is definitely still good. i barely use it, and i just re-installed it last week even
[21:25] <sil2100> BOHverkill, ogra_: yeah, we have something similar but well, less detailed... we'll have something better soon though
[21:25] <ogra_> i use mine every day (like now) ... its my living room computer at home
[21:26] <cwayne> dobey, mine won't be here in time either :( and I actually *need* one
[21:26] <BOHverkill> sil2100: k i love changelogs ;)
[21:26] <ogra_> for traveling i'd certainly like some more battery ...
[21:26] <cwayne> my current xps does this fun thing where it won't charge :(
[21:26] <cwayne> so it only works while plugged now
[21:26] <dobey> oh fun :(
[21:26] <ogra_> cwayne, in time for the sprint ?
[21:26] <ulrichard> My old XPS13 was stolen last month. I loved it. Now I'm on an X60.
[21:26] <sil2100> Currently what I'm doing is generating a commitlog of all changes that happened in the OTA - it has info what packages changed and what landings happened, so it has some descriptions of changes
[21:26] <dobey> cwayne: btw, do you use rtm-proposed on your phone, or what?
[21:27] <ogra_> dobey, you dont ?
[21:27] <sil2100> Soon it will also include changelog information for each upload, so it'll be more verbose for people that are interested in the details
[21:27] <cwayne> dobey, on the n5 yea
[21:27] <dobey> ogra_: i do, but i'm having a problem with untappd :)
[21:27] <ogra_> ah
[21:27] <cwayne> dobey, even with the latest update in the store?
[21:27] <cwayne> 1.0.9 i think
[21:28] <dobey> cwayne: different problem now. i was able to log on. but when i tried to attach a photo to the check-in using the camera, it would just crash and i'd lose the photo. if i took a picture and then tried to attach from the gallery, it would reload the page for the beer as soon as i selected the picture
[21:29] <dobey> cwayne: so wondering if you are seeing the same thing
[21:30] <dobey> though sergiusens seems to not have a problem attaching pictures. they just don't have a brasilian beach in the background this week
[21:31] <cwayne> dobey, oh, i just check in from the scope, haven't tried from the webapp
[21:33] <dobey> oh i forgot you added that to the scope. but you can't attach pictures with that can you? i just always use the app. i'm not really big on scopes myself
[21:35] <cwayne> nah you cant attach pics, but i never did anyway
[21:36] <dobey> ah. i usually don't either. somtimes the promotional glasses are worth it though
[21:36] <dobey> never had a problem before. maybe it's kenvandine's fault
[21:40] <leonmortiba> hello @ all
[21:42] <leonmortiba> i installed ubuntu touch on my nexus 5
[21:42] <leonmortiba> this is a great system
[21:42] <leonmortiba> but
[21:44] <leonmortiba> i missing a jabber client with otr (like conversations on android), a voip client (like linphone with ostn support), tor, and a e-mail client with pgp
[21:45] <leonmortiba> i missed caldav and carddav support. at home i have a baikal server
[21:49] <ogra_> i fear you have to learn app development or wait then ...
[21:50] <ogra_> caldav/carddav syncing might work via commandline ... the backend is just evolution-data-server ...
[21:55] <dobey> xmpp will probably come in the messaging app when the UI design for it gets updated to be suitable for things like IM. telepathy is already used as the backend for the SMS support (via telepathy-ofono), so the basics are pretty much there. just needs proper UI, integration, and confinement support
[21:56] <dobey> and i'm sure DanChapman wouldn't mind more help with dekko to get gpg/pkcs working well there
[21:58] <ogra_> yeah ...
[22:04] <k1l> wasnt there "some place" where the most wanted apps were written down?
[22:04] <ogra_> we call that store :)
[22:04] <dobey> somebody made a google spreadsheet for that
[22:05] <k1l> maybe that spreadsheet should get somewhat promoted to get more appmakers on that?
[22:05] <ogra_> mhall119, ^^
[22:06] <dobey> https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1tBafX2PovPFeEF2cxSQsBM1kvUAfIZ-PddecF4HircU/edit#gid=0
[22:06] <dobey> but that seems more like mostly system feature requests
[22:07] <k1l> i saw something that named popular android apps etc. and suggested them to be ported
[22:10] <AskUbuntu> Cannot allocate memory when trying to create instance of ubuntu-emulator | http://askubuntu.com/q/609775
[22:10] <ogra_> i think sturmflut-work did a blogpost with a list once
[22:10] <Dragonkeeper> gps looks like its kind of working now , but its so inaccurate
[22:11] <leonmortiba> i think ubuntu touch is a good base for a secure mobilephone
[22:11] <ogra_> leonmortiba, we think so too :)
[22:12] <leonmortiba> ogra_: i only use jabber with otr at android
[22:12] <Dragonkeeper> @heres ya jabber , you can jab people with that@
[22:13] <ogra_> well, like dobey said above, XMPP support might come to the messaging app
[22:13] <ogra_> so you can use jabber right from there
[22:13] <leonmortiba> but without otr
[22:14] <dobey> there is otr support for telepathy
[22:14] <dobey> so it could probably be implemented there sa well
[22:14] <k1l> https://sturmflut.github.io/ubuntu/touch/2015/02/15/ubuntu-touch-app-wishlist/
[22:14] <Dragonkeeper> ogra_: id like to see a SDR app xD
[22:14] <k1l> that was it, yes
[22:14] <ogra_> Dragonkeeper, write it then :)
[22:14] <Dragonkeeper> it
[22:16] <dobey> there are so many things that aren't even on that list
[22:21] <dobey> anyway, i am really gone now
[22:22] <k1l> a promoted list could attract some developers and motivate to do some work. but on the other hand it could be used to show what is still lacking :/
[22:32] <Dragonkeeper> how do i get bq phone to use ubuntu 15 ?
[22:38] <lool> beuno: 21:00 < zbenjamin> lool: the store just returns the list of available frameworks, could we introduce a field there that specifies the required policy?
[22:39] <lool> beuno: would you think the person who developed the framework API for the store could expose the policy version too?
[22:49] <beuno> lool, sure can, in exchange for a bug against lp:software-center-agent
[22:56] <lool> beuno: thanks
[22:56] <lool> zbenjamin: mind filing this as a request in lp:software-center-agent? I could file it, but then you wouldn't get notified when it closes
[22:58] <mhall119> ogra_: I have no idea what spreadsheet that might be
[23:16] <Dragonkeeper> what video formats does UT support >?
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[11:38] <alan_g> alf__: OK now? https://code.launchpad.net/~kdub/mir/mesa-reconstruct-buffer/+merge/255722
[11:38] <alf__> alan_g: yes, approved
[11:39] <alan_g> :)
[16:53] <duflu> mterry: http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~mir-team/mir/development-branch/view/head:/doc/demo_shell_controls.md
[16:54] <racarr> Can I have one more review on nested-cursor-pass-through? I feel like there have been too many changes since the last review
[16:54] <racarr> anpok: You are needs information which should be addressed
[21:32] <racarr> Ahhhh. New-input-dispatcher seems to be working fine :) now in the extract small branches out of it phase
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[00:02] <Work^Seony> 오브젝트를 만들어서 불러오면 될거에요..
[01:38] <AutoWiZ_znc> ㅎㅎ 제일 손도 대기 싫었던게 DB 랑 java 였는데
[01:38] <AutoWiZ_znc> 결국엔 손대고 있네요 아아 ...
[01:54] <Work^Seony> 어쩌다 자바까지 하시게 됐어요?
[02:01] <AutoWiZ_znc> 웹메일 서버가
[02:01] <AutoWiZ_znc> 자바로 만들어져 있는데 문제 생겨서 디버깅 하고 있어요
[02:02] <AutoWiZ_znc> 한줄 한줄 디버깅 마크 찍어가면서 ... ㅠㅠ 이클립스도 잘 쓸 줄 도 모르는데 ㅠㅠ
[02:02] <Work^Seony> 회사에서 직접 만든 거에요?
[02:02] <AutoWiZ_znc> 그래서 vi 랑 notepad++ 로 손으로 디버깅 하기 ㅋㅋ
[02:02] <AutoWiZ_znc> 다른 회사에서 만든거죠
[02:02] <Work^Seony> 음... 그럼 그 회사로 문의하심이... ㅎㅎ
[02:02] <AutoWiZ_znc> 돈주기 싫다고 안된다네요
[02:03] <Work^Seony> 헛,... 그렇군요...
[02:05] <AutoWiZ_znc> 상상이 안가시지요? 이해는 더더욱 안가실거고
[02:14] <AutoWiZ_znc> 마리아 DB ( mysql ) 참 좋은거 같아요
[02:15] <AutoWiZ_znc> 예전 자료가 필요해서 보다보니 export 도 아니고 MYD, MYI, frm 파일 세트 인데
[02:15] <AutoWiZ_znc> 안에 내용을 보는데 그냥 디렉토리 하나 만들어서 거기 파일들 집어넣고
[02:16] <AutoWiZ_znc> mysql 에서 접속해보면 이 테이블에 대해 컬럼이랑 데이터 조회가 가능해지니까요.
[02:16] <AutoWiZ_znc> 오라클이면 컨트롤 파일 만지고 어쩌고 아이고 ㅠㅠ
[02:18] <Work^Seony> 마리아디비가 mysql보단 좋을 거에요
[02:18] <Work^Seony> 근데, 테이블 속성 중에서 mysql이랑 호환이 안되는게 있어서 주의하셔야될 거에요..
[02:19] <AutoWiZ_znc> 왠지 더 좋을거 같습니다 ㅎㅎ
[02:19] <AutoWiZ_znc> 처음엔 이거 왜 이름을 바꾸고 지X 이야 라고 했었는데 많은 히스토리가 있었더라구요 ㅋ
[02:22] <Work^Seony> ㅋㅋㅋ 네
[02:22] <Work^Seony> 공공의 적에 대항하기 위해서죠 ㅋ
[02:26] <AutoWiZ_znc> 아 한 3일 삽질했는데 처음에 의심했던 문제가 맞았네요
[02:27] <AutoWiZ_znc> DB 뷰 수정하면서 커럼이름이 바뀐거였어요... 아... 이 놈을 어떻게 하지요?
[02:27] <AutoWiZ_znc> 컬럼
[02:27] <Work^Seony> 음... 그럼 걍 컬럼 이름을 바꾸면 안되나요? ㅎㅎ
[02:27] <AutoWiZ_znc> 아니 디비를 어떻게 한다는게 아니라
[02:27] <AutoWiZ_znc> 이거 뷰 수정한 녀석이요
[02:28] <AutoWiZ_znc> 제가 여러번 물어봤었거든요 컬럼이름 바뀐거 아니냐고
[02:28] <AutoWiZ_znc> 뷰 수정하면서 틀어진거 같다는데 자기는 기필코 아니라는거에요
[02:29] <AutoWiZ_znc> 그나마 울 회사에서 제 밑으로는 DB 젤 많이 아는 녀석인데도 막막하네요 .. 사는게 힘듭니다 요즘
[02:29] <AutoWiZ_znc> 뭔가 새로운 활력소가 필요합니다.... EVE ??? ㅋㅋㅋㅋ
[02:30] <Work^Seony> ㅎㅎㅎ
[02:30] <Work^Seony> 지금도 이브 플레이 하고 있어요 ㅎㅎ
[02:31] <Work^Seony> 함선에 달고 뺄 수 있는 모듈이 있는데, 그 중 한 타입은 뽑으면 박살나는 모듈이 있꺼든요... 너무 비싸서 살까말까 고민했는데 성능이 너무 좋아서 전재산 털어서 샀습니다 ㅎㅎ
[02:31] <Work^Seony> 이제 함선 터지면 저는 거지로...
[02:33] <AutoWiZ_znc> 뽑으면 박살난다는건
[02:33] <AutoWiZ_znc> 모듈 제거(분리)를 하면 모듈이나 배가 망가진다는건가요?
[02:33] <AutoWiZ_znc> 뽀대가 박살나게 멋지다는 건가요?
[02:35] <Work^Seony> 모듈이 망가져요
[02:35] <Work^Seony> 일종의 특수 아이템이에요
[02:36] <Work^Seony> 비싸고 성능이 좋은데, 제거하면 없어지는거죠
[02:38] <Work^Seony> 초대장 보내드릴테니까 관심있으시면 말씀하세요 ㅎㅎ
[02:38] <razGon_MINILA> samahui_, 어서오세요.
[02:38] <Work^Seony> 참 이번에, 이브 팬영상 공모전에서 한국이 1등 먹었더라구요
[02:39] <AutoWiZ_znc> 전에 만들었던계정은 10연퀘 진행하다가 중간에 있을거 같습니다 .ㅎㅎ
[02:39] <Work^Seony> 혹시 제가 초대장 보내드린 건가요?
[02:40] <AutoWiZ_znc> 예 하나는 초대장 주신거였는데 ㅠㅠ
[02:40] <AutoWiZ_znc> 하나는 제가 그냥 혼자 만든거였고 , 이렇게 두개 였는데 둘다 그냥 공중에 부웅~
[02:40] <Work^Seony> 보내드린 초대장으로 계정을 만드시면 3주가 무료이고, 결제를 하시게 되면 제가 지원금을 보내드릴 수 있게되죠...
[02:40] <Work^Seony> 계정은 한 번 만드시면 안없어져요
[02:41] <Work^Seony> 아마 그대로 있을 거에요
[02:41] <Work^Seony> 그 지원금이 초보가 한달을 빡시게 노가다해야 벌 수 있는 돈이라, 상당히 도움이 많이 되죠...
[02:41] <Work^Seony> 이게 이번에 공모전 1등한 영상... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_pLAUndwdXI
[02:41] <Work^Seony> 아 근데 이거 음성을 들어야하는데.. ㅎㅎ
[02:49] <AutoWiZ_znc> 휴대폰 수화기를 이어폰 처럼 쓸 수 있다면 눈치가 좀 덜 보일텐데 말입니다. ㅎㅎ
[02:50] <Work^Seony> 마이크 달린 이어폰은 어때요? ㅎㅎ
[02:50] <AutoWiZ_znc> 오오 그것도 마치 통화하는듯한 느낌을 강하게 주는데요
[02:52] <AutoWiZ_znc> 그냥 첩보영화처럼 초소형 무선 이어폰 도 출시되면 인기좀 있을거 같기도 합니다. 직장인들 사이에 ㅎㅎ
[02:53] <Work^Seony> 블루투스 헤드셋이 있긴한데 초소형은 아니니 ㅎㅎ
[02:54] <AutoWiZ_znc> 손톱 만한거 출시됬다는것도 같습니다.
[02:55] <Work^Seony> 귀에 넣으면 빼기도 어려울 거 같은데요 ㅋㅋ
[03:07] <samahui_> earin 같은 초소형 이어폰 있습니다 블루투스 이어폰
[03:07] <samahui_> 점심 맛나게들 드세요~
[03:07] <razGon_MINILA> 맛점하세요
[03:32] <ircCloud^Seony> 처방전으로 약 하나 사는데 10분을 넘게 기다리네요...
[03:32] <ircCloud^Seony> 뭐 이젠 이것도 익숙해졌지만...
[03:32] <razGon_MINILA> 미국도 그런가요? ㅎㅎㅎ
[03:32] <razGon_MINILA> 한국은 넘빠르다고 뭐라고 하더니만.
[03:58] <HolyKnight> @hoho_beakbal: ㅅ선생님이 자기가 학부 다닐 때 성적이 이상하게 한 학점씩 낮게 나오더라고. 나중에 보니 본인 이름이 여자같은 이름이어서 교수님들이 여잔 줄 알고 A 줄 걸 B 주고 있었다고 하는 말씀을... 여자는 졸업하면 시집갈 거라고 학점을 낮게 줘도 된다며
[04:19] <AutoWiZ_znc> 헐헐 비상식적인 처사네요
[05:00] <PotatoGim> 음..
[05:00] <PotatoGim> With out the sequence numbers we would have merged each of these operations as we added them.
[05:01] <PotatoGim> 여기에서 With out은 without인 걸까요? 아니면 뭔가 다른 표현일까요?;
[05:02] <PotatoGim> seq-num이 없으면 추가했던 것과 같이 각 명령들을 병합할 것이다?
[05:02] <ircCloud^Seony> 같게 해석하셔도 될거 같아요
[05:03] <PotatoGim> 예, 감사합니다! ㅜ
[05:05] <ircCloud^Seony> 직역을 하자면... 시퀀스 번호 없이, 우리가 그것들을 더했듯 우리는 각각의 그 operations을 병합해왔다
[05:05] <ircCloud^Seony> 해왔다가 아니구나
[05:05] <ircCloud^Seony> 해왔을 거다 라고 하는게 맞겠네요
[05:07] <PotatoGim> 아하.. 과거 사실의 반대인거죠?
[05:10] <PotatoGim> 바쁘실텐데 하나만 더 여쭤보려고 합니다..ㅜ
[05:10] <PotatoGim> when we finished the defrag operation we'd have 5000 delayed references each with a -32768 count for the freeing of the fragmented extent.
[05:11] <PotatoGim> 이 부분에서 each with a -32768 count가 어떤 걸 말하는 걸까요?
[05:12] <Seony> 음... 기술적인 부분이라 저는 감이 안오네요 ㅎㅎ
[05:15] <PotatoGim> 예, 감사합니다! 좀 더 고민해봐야겠네요..ㅜ
[06:20] <AutoWiZ_znc> -32768 개 만큼 defrag 했다는 거 아닐까요
[06:20] <AutoWiZ_znc> 5000 delayed references 할때마다 인데
[06:21] <AutoWiZ_znc> 저기서 references 가 어떤의미로 쓰였는지는 좀 찾아봐야겠습니다.
[06:38] <PotatoGim> 아, 저 refs는 단편화 제거 대상인 extent에 대한 참조입니다.
[06:39] <AutoWiZ_znc> 아 참조
[06:42] <AutoWiZ_znc> 5000 개의 def ref 나 df 나 비슷해게 해석될거 같은데요 아무튼.
[06:43] <AutoWiZ_znc> def 때문에 딜레이 걸리는 5000 개의ref 를 freeing 하는데 32768 번의 작업을 했다고 해석하고 싶은데 ㅠㅠ
[06:44] <AutoWiZ_znc> 왜 - 일까요 . 뭔가 다른 뜻이 있는건지.
[06:45] <AutoWiZ_znc> 앞쪽을 더 읽어봐야 할려나요?
[06:45] <AutoWiZ_znc> 만약 단편화 조각이 5000 개 있는 환경에서 조각모음이 수행된경우 I/O 가 32768 만큼 적게 일어났다라던가
[06:47] <PotatoGim> COW 된다는 가정 하에 128MB만큼 썼을 때 32768개의 extent가 되는데 단편화 제거를 마치는 시점에서 단편화된 extent의 할당 해제를 위해서 5000개의 지연된 참조를 가지고 이 5000개의 지연된 참조에 대해서 부연하는 것 같은데..
[06:47] <AutoWiZ_znc> cow 가 copy on write 이지요?
[06:48] <AutoWiZ_znc> 저는 소 인줄 ㅋㅋ
[06:50] <PotatoGim> 네, Copy-On-Write입니다 ㅎㅎ
[06:51] <AutoWiZ_znc> cow 에서의 defragmentation 은 일반 disk 에서의 단편화랑 다른 의미를 가질 수 도 있을까요?
[06:52] <AutoWiZ_znc> 예를 들면 cow 특성상 스냅샷마다 버젼이라고할지 파일 내용이 다른데
[06:52] <AutoWiZ_znc> 이걸 통합하는걸 defrag 라고 말하는건 아닐까 하는 (어쩌면 쓸때없는) 생각도 해봅니다.
[06:53] <AutoWiZ_znc> 원문을 주세요
[06:53] <AutoWiZ_znc> 구글 번역기로 돌려버리겠습니다 ㅋㅋ
[06:55] <PotatoGim> http://www.spinics.net/lists/linux-btrfs/msg33415.html
[06:55] <PotatoGim> 요 놈입니다~!
[07:10] <AutoWiZ_znc> 저~ 위쪽에서 부터 보니까 이렇게 보입니다.
[07:12] <AutoWiZ_znc> 몇가지 문제가 있는데 , COW 에서 128mb 만큼 쓰면서 모든 블럭을 새로 썼다면
[07:14] <AutoWiZ_znc> 32768 extents 를 쓰는데 , 5000 번의 스냅샷이 생성된다면 update 해야할 extents 가 163,840,000 개 가 된다.
[07:16] <AutoWiZ_znc> so when we finished the defrag operation we'd 5000개의 delayed ref (10초 정도 걸리는?) 를 가지게 되는데
[07:16] <AutoWiZ_znc> 각 delayed ref 마다 defrag 하는데 32768 번의 I/O 가 필요하다.
[07:17] <AutoWiZ_znc> 다시 , 각 delayed ref 마다 defrag 하는데 32768 개의 extents 처리(update) 가 필요하다.
[07:24] <imsu> AutoWiZ_znc: 안녕하세용 ㅋㅋㅋ
[07:24] <AutoWiZ_znc> 임수 하이~~~~
[07:24] <AutoWiZ_znc> 건강한가? 감기는 안걸리고?
[07:28] <PotatoGim> 해당 내용에서 처리는 단편화된 extent의 할당 해제인데 이게 애매한게 굳이 -32768로 표현한 부분이거든요. 32768개의 file extent가 모두 같은 extent를 가리키고 있고, 이들에 대한 스냅샷 때문에 단편화 제거를 해야할 extent가 약 1억 6천개가 되어서 많은 수의 지연된 참조를 통해서 이를 해결하려고 한건데
[07:30] <PotatoGim> -32768은 대체 어떤 의미인건지가 참...
[07:30] <AutoWiZ_znc> 아
[07:30] <AutoWiZ_znc> 앞쪽을 빼먹었네요 의미가 완전 달라지는 ㅠㅠㅠㅠ
[07:31] <AutoWiZ_znc> seq-num 없이 작업하면 delay ref 당 처리해야할 extent 가 32768 개 만큼 작아진다는 말인거 같습니다.
[07:31] <AutoWiZ_znc> merged 됨으로 인해서.
[07:32] <AutoWiZ_znc> 각각 다 빼면 결국 한번 만 하면 된다는건지 음...
[07:34] <AutoWiZ_znc> 각 extents 별로 순서대로 업데이트 해야할것들이 쌓여있는데.
[07:34] <AutoWiZ_znc> 굳이 순서대로 하나 하나 하나 하지않고
[07:36] <AutoWiZ_znc> (sequence numbers 무시하고 ) 한꺼번에 (이게 가로로 한방에 인지 , 세로로 한방에 인지는 모르겠습니다만 ) 하면 빠르다는 말 인거 같습니다.
[07:36] <AutoWiZ_znc> 중강 과정 무시하고 바로 처리해버린다는거 같기도 한데 정확힌 처리 로직에 대한 부분은 위쪽에 있을지도 모르겠네요.
[07:40] <AutoWiZ_znc> 그런데 저렇게 까지 파고 들어가시는 이유가 따로 있으신지?
[07:43] <PotatoGim> 네, seqnum이 없을 때는 각 defrag 명령들을 추가함으로써 병합했고, 5천번의 스냅샷이니 defrag 마칠 때에는 5천개의 지연된 참조를 갖게 되는데 이 각각이 할당 해제에 대해 32768의 횟수가 줄어든다고 하자니 결과적으로 할당 해제를 안한다가 되어버리는게 좀 이상해서요...
[07:44] <PotatoGim> 아, Btrfs 개발에 참여해보려구요.
[07:46] <popeye92> PotatoGim: 응원합니다. 저는 ZFS 개발에 참여합니다.
[07:48] <AutoWiZ_znc> 저는 할게 없네요 그냥 PotatoGim 님 밥이나 사드려야 겠습니다 ㅋㅋ
[07:48] <AutoWiZ_znc> 다른 파일이나 문서를 읽다가 비슷한 내용을 다시 접할 수 도 있을거 같습니다.
[07:53] <PotatoGim> 하겠다고 달려들고는 있는데.. 얼마나 갈 수 있을지는 모르겠네요.. ㅎㅎ
[07:54] <popeye92> 그러니 응원해드리는 거지요 :)
[07:57] <popeye92> 원래 오픈소스 활동에서는 꾸준함이 생명인데...이게 진짜 어렵잖아요...
[07:58] <AutoWiZ_znc> 그래서 밥사드릴려구요 ㅎㅎ
[07:58] <AutoWiZ_znc> 어디로 가면 되나요?
[07:59] <PotatoGim> 열심히 해보겠습니다..ㅎㅎ 밥만 얻어먹고 도망가면 안되니... ㅋㅋ;
[07:59] <AutoWiZ_znc> 도망가셔도 됩니다.
[07:59] <AutoWiZ_znc> 가시면 또 도망가시는데로 쫓아가는 재미가 있으니 ㅡ_ㅡ ;;;
[09:00] <PotatoGim> we need to drop any refs it has to the blocks it points to. 요 녀석을 뭐라고 하면 좋을까요?
[09:01] <PotatoGim> 왜 이렇게 어리둥절하지...
[09:05] <imsu> 어우 칼퇴 칼퇴~!~!~!~! 즐퇴들 하세용 ^^
[10:16] <HolyKnight> @myowmei: 경향신문이 정말 영리한 것이, 그저 “이완구 3천만원”이면 잘 인지되지 않고 이리저리 흐릴 수 있었을텐데, 유명한 “비타500”을 연결하면서 잊을 수 없게 만듬. 포텐 대폭발 중. 이제 정말 진보 일등신문이 눈 앞에 와 있음. ㅎㅎㅎㅎ
[14:34] <ihavnoth> 안녕하세요^.^
[18:34] <Work^Seony> 안녕하세요
[23:26] <Work^Seony> 오늘은 조용하네요 ㅎㅎ
[23:27] <HolyKnight> http://www.bloter.net/archives/222619
[23:27] <HolyKnight> ㅎㅇㅇ
[23:27] <Work^Seony> 안녕하세요
[23:27] <HolyKnight> 서니찡
[23:27] <HolyKnight> 굿모닝
[23:28] <Work^Seony> 이브온라인 켜놓고 일하는데, 그래도 짬짬히 미션 돌리는게 쏠쏠하네요 ㅋ
[23:54] <HolyKnight> @MacJohnathan: 161. 마스터키튼에 전 IRA 테러리스트의 죽음을 좇는 에피소드가 있는데 전말이 밝혀지고 피해자의 어머니가 그 화의 주인공이었던 작은 신문사 기자에게 단독 인터뷰를 허락해주는데 왜 우리 신문사냐고 물으니까 "다른 신문은 다들 내 딸의
[23:54] <HolyKnight> @MacJohnathan: 잔인하게 살해된 시체 사진을 실었는데 당신네 신문만 가장 예쁘게 나온 생전의 사진을 실어주었다"라고 대답하는데 되게 감동적이더라구여
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2024-05-13T22:11:12.731292
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2015-04-15-#ubuntu-release
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[00:02] <RAOF> Do we have any way of surfacing the autopkgtest failures for people's SRUs?
[00:06] <rbasak> RAOF: what are you asking for beyond what the links in http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/pending-sru.html provide?
[00:07] <RAOF> rbasak: I'm wondering whether the uploader of those SRUs gets notified.
[00:07] <rbasak> Oh, I see.
[00:07] <RAOF> Because there are a *bunch* of SRUs that would otherwise be releasable, but which have autopkgtest regressions associated with them.
[00:07] <rbasak> The failures come from the Jenkins end, so maybe they do.
[00:07] <RAOF> And I 'aint gonna be releasing those :)
[00:08] <rbasak> RAOF: while you're looking at SRU, mind looking at syslinux-themes-debian in trusty and utopic please? It's trivial, and I'd like them in -updates before Vivid is released.
[00:08] <RAOF> rbasak: Sure!
[00:09] <rbasak> Thanks! I care more than average because it's an upgrade bug and needs to be fixed in the "from" release to have any effect. So if it's after Vivid, there will be a whole load more people affected.
[01:32] <RAOF> Well, that's cute.
[01:32] <RAOF> Someone's signed up to Launchpad with an address that replies to every email with “please click this link to prove you're not a spammer” in French.
[09:03] <tjaalton> infinity: hey, should I push lts-vivid xorg bits? libdrm and xtrans are already waiting in the queue
[11:11] <rbasak> I'm a bit confused as to why bug 1042511 didn't get a verification-needed tag when ROAF accepted it. But it's verification-done now anyway.
[11:11] <rbasak> s/ROAF/RAOF/
[12:58] <jamespage> hi release team - we're just putting rc1 of openstack kilo through testing - all updates should be uploaded by eod
[15:18] <Laney> bdmurray: Shouldn't we use a buildX version for python-apt to have it autosynced next time?
[15:18] <bdmurray> Laney: yeah, that'd make sense
[15:19] <Laney> Righto
[15:45] <infinity> tjaalton: Get it all staged, but don't push it to the queue until after release, IMO.
[15:51] <tjaalton> infinity: that's thursday next week? sounds fine
[15:52] <tjaalton> first cut is staged on canonical-x ppa already, put there by mlankhorst. mesa got updated in the meantime but rest should be fine
[16:34] <infinity> tjaalton: You can always do upgrade and stack-swap testing before you push, of course.
[16:34] <tjaalton> sure
[16:34] <infinity> tjaalton: Since, historically, Maaarten did that a few months later, it seems, and we panicked to fix it all before the point release. :P
[16:36] <tjaalton> yeah and cert team needs it quickly, skylake testing is pretty pointless without mesa, -intel even though they have the kernel already
[16:37] <tjaalton> so i'll make sure it's working properly by end of next week
[16:38] <infinity> tjaalton: Awesome, thanks.
[17:53] <ScottK> jamespage: Looking at the stack of new dependency requirements for OpenStack Kilo "Release Candidate" 1, I am left wondering how you get to RC and don't know what your dependencies are. It would help a lot on the stack of dependency FFe's your team is filing if the FFe listed the rdepends and which of those rdepends are part of OpenStack and which ones aren't.
[18:30] <zequence> infinity: I'm going to need to refresh our meta and resping our ISO before tomorrow
[18:31] <zequence> I'm testing it now. Bug 1444535
[18:45] <zequence> infinity: I've uploaded the meta, but it needs to be okayed.
[19:20] <sil2100> infinity: hey! libgit2 is in the unapproved queue right now, I would need it in -proposed so that we can unblock the whole tranistion
[19:27] <zul> ScottK: they are all dependencies for openstack
[19:30] <zul> ScottK: they shouldnt affect packages outside of openstack, ie python-stevedore bump is needed otherwise openstack wont build, the oslo.* namespaces are only used by openstack as well
[19:56] <infinity> sil2100: I'll look at it.
[20:05] <sil2100> infinity: thanks o/
[20:25] <jamespage> ScottK, those are all packages under the openstack namespace upstream - so its not un-anticipated that upstream may rev minimum versions of what in effect are internal dependencies between final beta and rc
[20:28] <ScottK> jamespage: OK. I find it surprising to modify dependency requirements post beta freeze, but every project is different. In any case, an explicit statement that there are no non-OpenStack rdepends would be helpful.
[20:35] <jamespage> zul: ^^ please can you check and update the bug reports please - ta
[20:45] <zul> jamespage: ack
[21:15] <infinity> zequence: I don't see your meta upload...
[21:15] <zequence> infinity: No?
[21:15] <infinity> zequence: Did you sign it? :P
[21:16] <zequence> infinity: Now that you say that, I might not have
[21:21] <zequence> infinity: Should I bump it and do a new upload?
[21:33] <zequence> infinity: Actually, I did an upload to my ppa to test it, and that went fine.
[21:33] <zequence> lp:ubuntu/ubuntustudio-meta ?
[21:45] <zequence> infinity: I'm going to need to hit the sack in a few moments. Will be around again in 6-7h. If there's anything I can do now, I'll do it, otherwise, I'll be back tomorrow. Sorry to catch this so late.
[22:28] <infinity> zequence: Sorry, wasn't watching IRC.
[22:28] <infinity> zequence: You can just sign and reupload, no need to bump the version.
[22:28] <infinity> zequence: Or I can just upload your meta for you, since I just updated it here.
[22:28] <infinity> zequence: Err, except that my update here found no changes...
[22:29] <infinity> zequence: So, now I'm unsure what you're changing.
[22:33] <infinity> zequence: Oh, I see what you did. Yeah, I'll grab the bzr branch, refresh, and upload.
[23:00] <infinity> bdmurray: Did you never reupload update-manager with that test dep fix?
[23:14] <infinity> ScottK: Were you taking care of badgering the server team about the openstack/python vomit in the queue? Backscroll seemed to imply you were.
[23:15] <ScottK> infinity: Taking care of is a bit strong.
[23:15] <ScottK> I was at least trying to prod them in the right direction.
[23:15] <infinity> ScottK: Prodding, badgering, potayto, potahto.
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2015-04-15-#ubuntu-motu
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[15:01] <Laney> debfx: you've got some stuff in backports NEW
[16:01] <debfx> Laney: all done, thanks
[16:01] <Laney> neat
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2015-04-15-#lubuntu
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[09:13] <sgo11> hi, I am running lubuntu 14.04 LTS and updates to the latest repo. I can not install qt5-default package with apt-get. this is the error msg: http://hastebin.com/leyacisaxi.vhdl
[09:17] <sgo11> http://hastebin.com/usicihuyom.vhdl
[09:18] <hateball> sgo11: did you update && dist-upgrade before?
[09:19] <sgo11> hateball, I keep running that after freshinstall lubuntu 14.04.1 or lubuntu 14.04.2. I can not remember which one I fresh installed at the beginning.
[09:19] <sgo11> now, my system is up-to-date. just did that again before asking this question.
[10:42] <sgo11> this is damn weird. the unmet dependencies errors are fixed by `apt-get install libgles2-mesa-dev` manually.
[11:56] <cq-aux> heya
[11:56] <cq-aux> I'd like to know if skype 4.3 is working of lubuntu 14.04
[11:57] <cq-aux> of of
[11:57] <cq-aux> on
[11:57] <cq-aux> in
[11:57] <cq-aux> with
[11:58] <leszek> cq-aux: it should
[11:58] <cq-aux> you have less google support but more ubuntu support
[11:58] <cq-aux> leszek: that's good
[11:58] <cq-aux> I switched from #! because I wanted skype
[11:59] <cq-aux> it's becoming overloading for my puney acer netbook though
[12:00] <cq-aux> (I personally love xfce since wolvix cub)
[12:01] <cq-aux> my sister says she'll send my a laptop and printer to do her work on though
[12:01] <cq-aux> I guess I'm back on the pirate-wagon
[12:01] <cq-aux> lol
[12:01] <leszek> isn't skype also working on #!
[12:02] <cq-aux> don't mind much .. I'm a pirate anyhows
[12:02] <cq-aux> no
[12:02] <cq-aux> it's a pulseaudio thing
[12:02] <cq-aux> not working
[12:02] <leszek> ah ok
[12:03] <cq-aux> and crunchbang is no more
[12:03] <cq-aux> they didn't like the systemd wars
[12:04] <cq-aux> just like a painting on the public wall?@?@?@?@
[12:05] <cq-aux> I've got uncomplicate fire wall going so you can just push through that and see everything I'm doing here
[12:05] <cq-aux> *uncomplicated*
[12:08] <cq-aux> *as long as I interface with you , you can interface with me
[12:08] <cq-aux> we interface - x-dream
[12:09] <cq-aux> we are the first to program your future
[12:09] <cq-aux> we are the first we are the last
[12:10] <cq-aux> what's the transparent gtk2 engine?
[12:11] <cq-aux> murrine?
[12:12] <cq-aux> (I love transparent fluxbox)
[12:13] <cq-aux> but I'd like full on transparency)
[12:13] <cq-aux> I don't even know why openbox has such a grip
[12:14] <cq-aux> I can understand lxde but not openbox
[12:14] <cq-aux> unless it's pink or purple the way my daughter likes it
[12:14] <cq-aux> lol
[12:15] <cq-aux> teeth, grip, lazer sharp, fight right power, tear you apart
[12:16] <cq-aux> you better not lose control, they pull you under it can take a hold
[12:17] <cq-aux> I'm listening to prodigy - invaders must die
[12:20] <cq-aux> I've made windows' my bitch once again for a friend
[12:20] <cq-aux> spybot, malwarebytes, msconfig
[12:21] <cq-aux> no one want to talk?
[12:21] <cq-aux> k bi
[12:28] <hateball> Well that was unpleasant
[12:58] <svalo> Hello everybody, I was trying to edit the main menu on a Lubuntu 14.04 (lxde), I'd like to add a new section but It doesn't appear, how can I debug that? Are there any log I can read?
[13:08] <svalo> Of course I read freedesktop standars
[13:09] <JohnDoe_71Rus> the section appear if you have *.desktop file with this section
[13:10] <JohnDoe_71Rus> can't see empty section
[13:11] <svalo> JohnDoe_71Rus, thanks, I already checked, I created .directory file, .desktop files and edited lxde-applications.menu to include the 2 new .direcotry files I created for the submenus
[13:12] <svalo> JohnDoe_71Rus, is there a tool to check if all files are recognized by the os?
[13:12] <svalo> JohnDoe_71Rus, /os/lxde/
[13:13] <JohnDoe_71Rus> don't know
[13:14] <svalo> JohnDoe_71Rus, ok, which is the right home subdirectory where I should place the menu file? I put them in ~/.local/share/menus
[13:14] <JohnDoe_71Rus> you can add your's section to exist app. ~/.local/application..
[13:15] <JohnDoe_71Rus> yep local/share/application
[13:16] <JohnDoe_71Rus> if system know this section you see it in menu at the same time
[13:16] <svalo> JohnDoe_71Rus, yes, that works but I need to define 2 more categories
[13:44] <svalo> Ok, I managed to solve, if it's needed by anyone a very usefull command is xdg-desktop-menu install
[14:06] <honestemu> How well does a Lenovo Thinkpad T410 run Lubuntu LTS?
[14:47] <leszek> honestemu: very well
[14:48] <honestemu> I'm thinking this one.
[14:48] <honestemu> http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16834313598
[14:48] <leszek> everything should be supported though if you have a nvidia quadro card you might want to get the proprietary nvidia driver
[14:48] <honestemu> Think it'll last me another 4 years?
[14:48] <leszek> should be no problem but it depends on your needs
[14:49] <leszek> also perhaps you maybe find a version a lot cheaper that does not come with an OS
[14:49] <leszek> there are some good ebay sellers out there
[20:11] <Chelsea_Jurgens> hello all
[20:35] <cheche> Is there a way to install Libreoffice Quickstar?
[20:36] <wxl> cheche: um, it's not included?
[20:37] <wxl> (i assume you mean quickstarT)
[20:37] <cheche> wxl: yes sorry but is it not installed
[20:37] <wxl> cheche: should be an option in settings afaik
[20:38] <cheche> Given than lubuntu is not using antivirus software. and Libreoffice have a slow startup. I though enable it
[20:38] <wxl> cheche: so you HAVE enabled it in the settings?
[20:45] <cheche> wxl: my fault sorry, I went to the Autostart and nothing was there.
[20:45] <cheche> wxl: but if you go to the libreoffice settings tha Autostart entry popups
[20:46] <cheche> I saw other applications and I (wrongly) assume that libreoffice need somethingelse to install
[20:47] <wxl> cheche: are you SURE it's not running on reboot? did you look at all the running processes? it may be that the icon just doesn't show up.
[20:49] <cheche> wxl: it was my fault I could not find the Libreoffice Stuff at first. But after enable it on the libreoffice config then it is ok
[20:50] <wxl> cheche: oh, so everything is fine? sorry, i can tell english is not your first language, so i know it's not your fault but i'm having a bit of trouble understanding what you said.
[20:51] <cheche> wxl: Yes, I am sorry, everything is working fine.
[20:51] <wxl> cheche: great to hear! if you need further help, let me know :)
[20:51] <cheche> wxl: thank you for your patience :-)
[20:51] <wxl> cheche: no problem
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2015-04-15-#ubuntu-pl
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[17:56] <a55h0l3> czesc pomozecie? mam problem ze skype na lubuntu, widzimy sie ale nie slyszymy
[17:56] <TheNumb> pewnie wina skype
[17:56] <TheNumb> a55h0l3: w opcjach sprawdzałeś?
[17:57] <a55h0l3> to jest laptop rodzicow i zawsze instalowalem im ubuntu a teraz walnalem im lubuntu zeby jego slabe parametry byly dostosowane do lzejszego systemu
[17:58] <a55h0l3> nigdy wczesniej nie bylo problemu ze skype
[17:58] <TheNumb> smutno
[17:58] <a55h0l3> podejrzanie wyglada mi to ze skype w opcjach dzwieku wyswietla sterowniki mic i speakers jako "virtual machine"
[17:59] <TheNumb> ciekawe
[17:59] <a55h0l3> jestem srednio zaawansowanym linux userem wiec blagam o pomoc ;)
[18:00] <a55h0l3> stery dzwieku sa i dzialaja bez zarzutu przy wszystkich mediach
[18:00] <a55h0l3> a na skype nie
[18:00] <TheNumb> a55h0l3: nie mam pomysłów :(
[18:00] <TheNumb> Nawet nie używam skype ;z
[18:01] <TheNumb> a55h0l3: a inne komunikatory mają ten problem?
[18:01] <a55h0l3> moi rodzice nie znaja zadnych innych komunikatorow, nie to pokolenie, cud ze skype ogarniali :)
[18:01] <a55h0l3> ale moge sprawdzic, cos proponujesz?
[18:02] <TheNumb> a55h0l3: np firefox hello
[18:02] <TheNumb> wbudowane w firefoxa
[18:02] <TheNumb> ta taka mordka koło paska adresu
[18:02] <a55h0l3> z gory sorry za moje "glupie pytania", sredni user, jak wyzej :/
[18:03] <a55h0l3> maja chromium wiec musze instalnac :P uno momento :P
[18:05] <a55h0l3> 46%
[18:08] <a55h0l3> dobra mam ff
[18:09] <a55h0l3> TheNumb: help
[18:10] <TheNumb> a55h0l3: no kliknij mordkę w frajerfoxie
[18:10] <a55h0l3> no mam
[18:10] <TheNumb> potem dostaniesz link i otwórz go na drugim komputerze z frajerfoxem
[18:10] <a55h0l3> no wlasnie nie mam pod reka drugiej maszyny :/
[18:10] <TheNumb> no to wyślij do kogoś ten link
[18:10] <a55h0l3> ok
[18:10] <TheNumb> do tej osoby z którą testujesz skype
[18:11] <a55h0l3> ok
[18:11] <TheNumb> chrome też powinien ogarnąć
[18:11] <mati75> pulseaudio zainstaluj
[18:11] <mati75> i skonfiguruj
[18:11] <a55h0l3> no ff mi mowi ze moj rozmowca nie musi miec ff
[18:12] <TheNumb> mati75: skype sam wciąga pulseałdjo
[18:12] <TheNumb> przynajmniej powinien
[18:12] <a55h0l3> ok polaczylem sie przez ff ale nie ma ani audio ani video, moze dlatego ze skype mam wlaczony?
[18:12] <Dread> na gentoo nie robi
[18:13] <TheNumb> gentoo to gentoo
[18:14] <a55h0l3> ja slysze rozmowce w firefoxie ale on mnie nie
[18:14] <a55h0l3> jest jest postep w 1 strone
[18:15] <a55h0l3> jakies sugestie?
[18:22] <mati75> TheNumb: nie ściąga
[18:22] <mati75> kurde
[18:22] <mati75> gdzieś ten adres ip dzisiaj widziałem
[18:23] <drathir> co tam niszczycie?
[18:40] <fRit_^> hello
[18:41] <Ashiren> dobry wieczor
[18:41] <fRit_^> dobry wieczor :)
[18:41] <fRit_^> o jednak dziala :)
[18:43] <fRit_^> Ashiren: moge miec pytanie?
[18:44] <Ashiren> tzn 2 pytania
[18:45] <fRit_^> Ashiren: :) czy jest jakas komenda, ktora zablokuje pokazywanie, w ktorych kanalach jestem?
[18:45] <fRit_^> chyba 10 lat temu bylem na IRC, od wczoraj robie reaktywacje
[18:45] <kklimonda> ja w sumie nie wiem, czy Ashiren to na pewno człowiek, czy tylko bot wklejający koty :3
[18:45] <kklimonda> /mode +s czy coś
[18:46] <fRit_^> chyba nie dziala
[18:47] <Ashiren> to chyba na kanal tylko
[18:47] <fRit_^> chyba tak
[18:47] <fRit_^> byla taka komenda... chyba
[18:47] <fRit_^> :)
[18:47] <fRit_^> niewazne :)
[18:47] <kklimonda> hmm, coś było
[18:47] <Ashiren> o, albo +p
[18:47] <kklimonda> a może to było invisible
[18:47] <kklimonda> +i
[18:48] <kklimonda> /mode nick +i zobacz
[18:48] <kklimonda> u mnie coś robi
[18:48] <fRit_^> bez zmian
[18:48] <fRit_^> wpisalem
[18:48] <fRit_^> moze mnie sprawdzic /whois
[18:48] <fRit_^> ?
[18:49] <mati75> channels : #ubuntu-pl
[18:49] <fRit_^> to moze dziala
[18:49] <mati75> zobacz sobie na mnie
[18:49] <fRit_^> ..., bo jestem na dwoch
[18:49] <mati75> mam tak samo ustawione
[18:49] <fRit_^> tylko ubuntu-pl
[18:50] <kklimonda> whois nie zablokujesz
[18:50] <fRit_^> czyli +i dziala
[18:50] <fRit_^> dzieki :)
[18:50] <Ashiren> ale to moze kanal tak ma
[18:50] <mati75> Ashiren: nie
[18:50] <Ashiren> jaki mode ma tamten kanal
[18:50] <kklimonda> fRit_^: a co chcesz dokładnie ukryć?
[18:50] <kklimonda> fRit_^: bo może chodzi ci o maskę, czy jak się to zwie po polskiemu
[18:50] <gjm> pokazuje komuś te, na których jesteście razem
[18:50] <fRit_^> nie chce, aby przez /whois bylo widac wszystkie kanaly, na ktorych jestem
[18:50] <fRit_^> +i dziala
[18:51] <kklimonda> no to cool
[18:51] <gjm> 20:50 [freenode] fRit_^ ~moka@unaffiliated/frit-/x-8654799
[18:51] <gjm> 20:50 [freenode] ircname = purple;
[18:51] <gjm> 20:50 [freenode] channels = #jakilinux #ubuntu-pl ;
[18:51] <fRit_^> qrde
[18:51] <gjm> wydało się
[18:52] <fRit_^> mati75 wyskakuje tylko na #ubuntu
[18:52] <fRit_^> mowil, ze jest na 2
[18:52] <gjm> 20:49 @ gjm │ pokazuje komuś te, na których jesteście razem
[18:52] <mati75> fRit_^: ja mam 9 kanałów na freenode
[18:53] <fRit_^> mati75: ja widze przez whois tylko #ubuntu-pl
[18:54] <gjm> jeszcze raz mam wkleić?
[18:55] <fRit_^> mati75: co ty widzisz po wpisaniu /whois fRit_^
[18:55] <fRit_^> ?
[18:56] <mati75> 20:56 [FreeNode] -!- fRit_^ [~moka@unaffiliated/frit-/x-8654799]
[18:56] <mati75> 20:56 [FreeNode] -!- ircname : purple
[18:56] <mati75> 20:56 [FreeNode] -!- channels : #ubuntu-pl
[18:56] <mati75> 20:56 [FreeNode] -!- server : orwell.freenode.net [NL]
[18:56] <mati75> 20:56 [FreeNode] -!- : is using a secure connection
[18:56] <mati75> 20:56 [FreeNode] -!- account : fRit_^
[18:56] <mati75> 20:56 [FreeNode] -!- End of WHOIS
[18:56] <Ashiren> :s
[18:57] <TheNumb> SPAM SPAM SPAM SPAM
[18:57] <TheNumb> * [fRit_^] (~moka@unaffiliated/frit-/x-8654799): purple
[18:57] <TheNumb> * [fRit_^] #ubuntu-pl
[18:57] <TheNumb> * [fRit_^] orwell.freenode.net :NL
[18:57] <TheNumb> * [fRit_^] is using a secure connection
[18:57] <TheNumb> * [fRit_^] is logged in as fRit_^
[18:57] <TheNumb> * [fRit_^] End of WHOIS list.
[18:57] <fRit_^> gjm: no widzisz... widac tylko jeden kanal
[18:57] <Dread> więcej spamu
[18:57] <en0x> wtf
[18:57] <fRit_^> gjm: moze masz za duze uprawnienia ;)
[18:57] <TheNumb> * [Dread] (dreadlish@unaffiliated/dreadlish): rzuć na radio
[18:58] <TheNumb> * [Dread] +#linuxmint-pl #gentoo-pl #debian-pl #ubuntu-pl
[18:58] <TheNumb> * [Dread] wolfe.freenode.net :Stockholm, SE
[18:58] <TheNumb> * [Dread] is logged in as dreadlish
[18:58] <TheNumb> * [Dread] End of WHOIS list.
[18:58] <Dread> jezu, wy debile jesteście
[18:58] <en0x> jeszcze wiecej!
[18:58] <Dread> zdejmijcie sobie +i
[18:58] <Dread> TheNumb: rzuć na radio
[18:58] <TheNumb> tak
[18:58] <TheNumb> radiowęzeł
[18:58] <fRit_^> Dread: :)
[18:58] <gjm> jeszcze niech ktoś wklei
[18:58] <fRit_^> troche ruchu nie zaszkodzi :)
[18:58] <Dread> TheNumb: tylko 2kzł jeszcze mi trzeba ;d
[18:59] <TheNumb> Dread: w krótkofalarstwo się bawisz?
[18:59] <Dread> nokuwa
[18:59] <gjm> Dread lubi krótkie faje
[18:59] <gjm> erm, fale
[18:59] <en0x> 14:59 freenode ::: ircname : bum bum bum BIALE REKAWICZKI KURWA!!!!
[18:59] <en0x> hehehe
[19:00] <TheNumb> wystraszyliście go :(
[19:01] <en0x> chyba ty
[19:01] * fRit_^ przypomina sobie troche
[19:03] <fRit_^> co sadzicie o arch Linux? Zamierzam przejsc z ubuntu...
[19:03] <gjm> Arch Ssie™
[19:03] <Ashiren> TAK
[19:03] <TheNumb> sądzimy
[19:03] <fRit_^> ok
[19:03] <Ashiren> tylko arch
[19:03] <TheNumb> z KDE
[19:03] <TheNumb> plasma 5
[19:03] <fRit_^> takiej odpowiedzi sie spodziewalem :)
[19:04] <fRit_^> zadnych konkretow ;)
[19:05] <en0x> instaluj debiana!
[19:05] <fRit_^> chyba jestem za duzym lamerem...
[19:06] <gjm> przez grzeczność nie zaprzeczę
[19:06] <fRit_^> gjm: dzieki :)
[19:06] <gjm> 5zł
[19:06] <fRit_^> gjm: mierze sily na zamiary ;)
[19:50] <drathir> chyba domyslnie widza te osoby na ktorym sa o ile nic sie nie zmienilo...
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2015-04-15-#ubuntu-kernel
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[15:58] <hallyn_> arges: hey, so regarding the gdb+qemu, did cjwatson talk to you yesterday?
[16:45] <arges> hallyn_: briefly, just recapped what you said to me
[16:49] <hallyn_> arges: when i talked to him he was wondering about your workload - i.e. could it have been booting kernel still in real mode when it failed,
[16:49] <hallyn_> and he mentioned using the multi-arch version of gdb
[16:59] <arges> hallyn_: I was already booted when I attached gdb
[16:59] <arges> hallyn_: and I'm running all 64-bits L1/L0 etc
[16:59] <arges> and i've even tried to manually set arch with no luck
[17:01] <hallyn_> ok, thx
[20:26] <grkvlt> hi. is kernel.ubuntu.com down for maintenance? when will it be available again? cannot connect right now...
[20:44] <ppisati_> chiluk: https://www.raspberrypi.org/xenon-death-flash-a-free-physics-lesson/
[20:58] <arges> hallyn_: for bug 1392176 is this waiting on a kernel patch: https://lkml.org/lkml/2015/4/10/515?
[20:59] <arges> grkvlt: we are having some server issues, its a known problem and we are actively trying to fix it.
[20:59] <grkvlt> arges: thx. any idea on an ETA or just wait and see ;)
[21:00] <arges> grkvlt: no idea when it will be fixed, but we are all hoping soon
[21:03] <grkvlt> arges: np. i think i can work around it. its a requirement for a demo i'm giving ;(
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2015-04-15-#ubuntu+1
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[03:56] <Etriaph> Anyone else have an issue today after the updates regarding not being able to right-click on the desktop in Kubuntu 15.04?
[03:57] <Etriaph> And the Alt-F2 dialog doesn't execute software properly atm.
[04:48] <lotuspsychje> good morning to all
[06:44] <Jamie_> crap upgrade gone wrong!!!
[10:07] <lordievader> Good afternoon.
[12:52] <BluesKaj> Hiyas all
[14:11] <bduncan> hi all. apologies to anyone who is reading this for the second time! i'm running the kubuntu vivid beta and there a few bugs which i'd like to track down and report.
[14:12] <bduncan> firstly krunner seems to have stopped working. i can type in the box but nothing is ever suggested and pressing return does nothing
[14:12] <bduncan> i've tried shell commands, .desktop commands, simple maths... i've tried strace but the output is pretty impenetrable
[14:12] <bduncan> secondly plasmashell seems to segfault every time i log in, but the bug reporter says the backtrace is useless even though i've installed debug symbols. can i clear out its config somewhere or get better logging?
[16:30] <mparillo> bduncan: Last night's updates seemed to have caused: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/krunner/+bug/1444196 and https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubiquity/+bug/1428877 and https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=346190 and https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=346191
[16:34] <bduncan> mparillo: that's great. I'm installing the -proposed updates now. fingers crossed!
[16:34] <bduncan> thanks :)
[16:47] <bduncan> mparillo: that fixed it, thanks!
[17:09] <mparillo> YW
[17:52] <solsTiCe> hi. When I boot with the livecd 15.04, the external hdmi screen is on very early in the boot process. as soon as after grub. but on my installed system, the second screen is never on before the X/lightdm screen. why ?
[17:56] <BluesKaj> 15.04 uses sddm login display manager by default afaik, but I guess that's immaterial , solsTiCe
[17:58] <solsTiCe> sddm on the livecd ? because I have lightdm runing here
[18:15] <lordievader> Seems like the Ubuntu live-cd doesn't include sddm but lightdm. Guess sddm is a Kubuntu only thing.
[18:16] <lordievader> solsTiCe: Anyhow Plymouth/Framebuffer stuff tries to detect a resolution that is suitable for all displays but doesn't try too hard.
[18:30] * BluesKaj wonders how much Mir has to do with that problem
[18:37] <BluesKaj> guess Kubuntu and Ubuntu really are going their separate ways graphically ...just the beginning i think
[18:38] <KDDA> BluesKaj: yup :)
[18:38] <KDDA> and Vivid is looking very nice
[18:40] <BluesKaj> it will be nicer once all the major apps are integrated into plasma 5, dolphin integration is still lagging behind
[18:53] <solsTiCe> I am confused. I have X running. Is mir running ? how ? what is it ?
[18:55] <lordievader> solsTiCe: Mir is Canonicals answer to X.
[18:55] <lordievader> Or to Wayland, however you like.
[18:55] <k1l> mir should not be running. 15.04 will use x as default, still
[18:56] <solsTiCe> on wikipedia, the eta for mir is 16.04
[18:56] <k1l> dm should be lightdm. or you have kubuntu, which uses ssdm now
[18:56] <solsTiCe> ok
[20:47] <nightfuri> anyone on why dmidecode doesnt work in kernel 4.0 ?
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2015-04-15-#ubuntukylin-devel
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[03:23] <nudtrobert> ypwong, release note写好了吗？
[09:37] <jzhjm> hello
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2015-04-15-#maas
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[09:41] <mup> Bug #1444366 was opened: Vocabularies are not documented <api> <cli> <doc> <MAAS:Triaged> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1444366>
[10:29] <mup> Bug #1444012 changed: 1.8beta2: settings page rendering is all messed up <oil> <MAAS:Invalid by ricgard> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1444012>
[13:16] <AskUbuntu> How many nodes to use Maas/Juju for Openstack (Juno)? | http://askubuntu.com/q/609589
[13:51] <mup> Bug #1444012 was opened: 1.8beta2: settings page rendering is all messed up <oil> <MAAS:Confirmed for ricgard> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1444012>
[14:04] <rozie> hello. I'm looking at MAAS as I look for inventarisation/automation tool. I'll probably will give MAAS a try anyway, but will ask some questions as they may help me to understand what MAAS is and what it is capable of better:
[14:05] <rozie> 1. Can MAAS work with different hardware setup (different hardware types, different amount of RAM/HDD)?
[14:05] <rozie> 2. Can MAAS configure hardware RAID?
[14:06] <rozie> 3. Can MAAS install base system? Can it be other Linux distribution than Ubuntu?
[14:06] <rozie> 4. Is using JUJU necessary? If no, how is MAAS limited without JUJU?
[14:07] <rozie> 5. How MAAS differs from FUEL (Mirantis)?
[14:07] <rozie> TIA
[14:18] <roaksoax> rozie: 1 should be. 2. no. 3. yes. 4. no. 5. a lot :)
[16:20] <j^2> rozie: there’s chef integration now too :)
[16:51] <rozie> j^2: thx, will take a look at this
[16:52] <rozie> like: that's great, we use chef :-)
[16:53] <j^2> nice!
[16:53] <j^2> https://github.com/chef-partners/knife-maas
[16:53] <j^2> https://github.com/chef-partners/maas
[17:21] <bitchecker> hi
[18:19] <kiko> hey jj
[18:19] <kiko> what is up!
[18:19] <kiko> j^2 too :)
[18:20] <j^2> :D
[20:44] <AskUbuntu> How to edit machine hardware detail deployed by Juju? | http://askubuntu.com/q/609741
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2015-04-15-#ubuntu-fi
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[08:06] <Tekno_> ampereel
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2015-04-15-#ubuntu-unity
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[08:15] <tsdgeos> Mirv: https://codereview.qt-project.org/#/c/110325/ has been updated, but not with any crucial bits i think, may leave the rebuild for final in case we accept it
[08:17] * Mirv context switches from qtdeclarative to qtbase
[08:17] <Mirv> tsdgeos: ok.
[08:18] <tsdgeos> Mirv: sorry :D qtdeclarative one for regexp was merged upstream and Saviq and me checked yesterday it seems to fix the issue we were having with it
[08:20] <Mirv> tsdgeos: yes, it's in 004 now, I'd be happy to hear results from testing the PPA specifically (the armhf has also finished building with ~test1 version, even though the final build is still ongoing)
[08:24] <tsdgeos> ok
[09:04] <tsdgeos> Mirv: seems to be fine for me
[09:16] <Mirv> thanks!
[11:04] <Saviq> dednick, diff here looks busted https://code.launchpad.net/~nick-dedekind/unity8/desktop-app-focus/+merge/256287
[11:10] <tsdgeos> Cimi: how's the review of https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/unity8/+bug/1442085 going?
[11:11] <tsdgeos> MacSlow: https://code.launchpad.net/~aacid/unity8/pot_file top approve?
[11:11] <Cimi> tsdgeos, I was wondering if we needed to fix qt 5.5/5.4.2 too there
[11:11] <tsdgeos> Cimi: we do
[11:11] <tsdgeos> Cimi: https://codereview.qt-project.org/#/c/110348/
[11:12] <Cimi> tsdgeos, so it was a regression in 5.4.2 ?
[11:12] <tsdgeos> no clue tbh
[11:12] <tsdgeos> may be a 5.4.2 regression
[11:12] <tsdgeos> or that somehow our 5.4 packages have something that make this work
[11:12] <tsdgeos> didn't feel like building 5.4.1 from upstream and checking
[11:12] <Saviq> MacSlow, crash of maliit-server and unity8-dash likely when they try and launch to unity8 that crashed on startup, your "process not found" error, too, I've not seen that hapen though
[11:13] <Cimi> tsdgeos, I don't know if we do 5.4.2 first ot 5.5, but if we do 5.4.2 we should have tests not to fail... a fix in the tests is not possible?
[11:13] <MacSlow> tsdgeos, generally yes... but why does autopilot/DBus crap out again on Jenkins?
[11:13] <Saviq> MacSlow, you should merge ~unity-team shellRotation branch into yours btw, there were quite a bit of conflicts
[11:13] <tsdgeos> MacSlow: good question :/
[11:14] <tsdgeos> Cimi: if we do 5.4.2 the tests will fail which is what they should be doing, no?
[11:14] <MacSlow> Saviq, I thought I did that yesterday... will double-check
[11:14] <Saviq> MacSlow, didn't know you did, that's fine then
[11:15] <Saviq> MacSlow, I'll tweak demo-stuff recipe configs so that it builds your branch instead
[11:15] <MacSlow> tsdgeos, looking at the log it fails with createPlatformOpenGLContext... some issue with Ubuntu-L.ttf ... ?
[11:15] <Saviq> MacSlow, tsdgeos, the jenkins failure seems to be a timeout
[11:15] <MacSlow> Saviq, I still want to check...
[11:15] <Cimi> tsdgeos, ah, so the visual itself is broken in 5.4.2
[11:15] <MacSlow> Saviq, tsdgeos: in that case I'm good to top-approve tsdgeos branch... I can hardly imagine the pot-file fixes to affect that :)
[11:16] <Cimi> tsdgeos, I thought visuals were fine, tests were failing
[11:16] <tsdgeos> Cimi: yes
[11:16] <Cimi> good then
[11:16] <Saviq> MacSlow, indeed
[11:16] <dednick> Saviq: yup. i know. fixing
[11:16] <MacSlow> tsdgeos, done
[11:17] <MacSlow> Saviq, doh... didn't merge with unity-team shellRotation branch... *sigh*
[11:18] <MacSlow> Saviq, so forget my alarm-bells for the moment :)
[11:18] <tsdgeos> Cimi: i.e. if we update to 5.4.2 there can be two things happening, 1 the tests break because the visuals break and then we need to patch 5.4.2 with my upstream patch (if accepted) or we do actually have some other patch in some place that fixes it too and then we're fine :D
[11:18] <Saviq> MacSlow, there were alarm bells? ;)
[11:19] <MacSlow> Saviq, maybe I used teh wrong term :)
[11:20] <Saviq> tsdgeos, I think our last release must've caused the timeouts in Jenkins
[11:20] <tsdgeos> may be :/
[11:20] <Saviq> tsdgeos, this is the first instance that took 2h40 http://s-jenkins.ubuntu-ci:8080/job/unity8-ci/5534/console
[11:20] <tsdgeos> there's more than one thing failing
[11:20] <tsdgeos> thing -> job
[11:20] <Saviq> or actually
[11:21] <Saviq> that's 4d21h ago
[11:21] <Saviq> so before the last release
[11:21] <tsdgeos> where do you check how much it took
[11:21] <tsdgeos> ?
[11:22] <Saviq> http://s-jenkins.ubuntu-ci:8080/job/unity8-ci/5543/
[11:22] <Saviq> top right
[11:22] <Saviq> or https://jenkins.qa.ubuntu.com/job/unity8-ci/5546/ for the public instance
[11:22] <tsdgeos> i have how we haven't been able to convince QA people to install the timestamp extension :/
[11:22] <tsdgeos> s/have/hate
[11:23] <Saviq> tsdgeos, vote https://trello.com/c/f1V9Y5Gj/213-timestamps-on-all-ci-logs up if you can ;)
[11:24] <tsdgeos> so we went from 1:41 to 2:40 ?
[11:24] <tsdgeos> no voting power
[11:24] <Saviq> tsdgeos, well, it times out at 2:40
[11:25] <Saviq> tsdgeos, I mean the AP runner times out after 120 mins
[11:25] <Saviq> http://s-jenkins.ubuntu-ci:8080/job/generic-deb-autopilot-runner-vivid-mako/1929/console
[11:25] <tsdgeos> right
[11:26] <Saviq> tsdgeos, I'm calling that's actually bug #1421009
[11:26] <tsdgeos> may be
[11:26] <Saviq> AP complains about no reply on dbus straight after launching unity8
[11:26] <Saviq> must be that
[11:27] <tsdgeos> that or the other bug i fixed in ap
[11:27] <tsdgeos> think it's unreleased yet
[11:27] <Saviq> tsdgeos, it is https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/autopilot/1.5.0+15.04.20150408-0ubuntu1
[11:27] <tsdgeos> https://code.launchpad.net/~aacid/autopilot/dbus_search_no_seen_connections/+merge/254109
[11:28] <Saviq> yeah that's there since last week
[11:29] <Cimi> tsdgeos, why that change in widgetData assignment after oncompleted?
[11:30] <tsdgeos> Cimi: because is whattriggets the bug
[11:31] <Cimi> tsdgeos, ah so if the data changes after the component was created the layout gets confused
[11:31] <Cimi> I get that
[11:31] <tsdgeos> Saviq: those autopilot releases are confusing
[11:31] <MacSlow> Saviq, last time I merged with unity-team/shellRotation was on Friday... and I'm missing the merge with trunk.
[11:32] <MacSlow> Saviq, so doing that now
[11:33] <Saviq> tsdgeos, I agree, train really helped with obviousness of what's released and what's not
[12:22] <dandrader> mzanetti, is https://code.launchpad.net/~dandrader/unity8/ddaImprovements/+merge/255896 ok for you now?
[12:24] <dandrader> tsdgeos, you need to review https://code.launchpad.net/~dandrader/unity8/ddaImprovements/+merge/255896 again as I added a bunch of new stuff.
[12:24] <dandrader> tsdgeos, mostly API grooming, moving code around
[12:33] <mzanetti> dandrader, from an API point of view, I think yes
[12:35] <dandrader> mzanetti, can I get a review from you then? Not the full code review, as tsdgeos was doing that. could be review a type like "API and manual test"
[12:36] <tsdgeos> dandrader: i can have a look yes
[12:36] <mzanetti> ah ok. tsdgeos, you already ok with the code etc?
[12:36] <mzanetti> I'll give it a test too then
[12:36] <tsdgeos> mzanetti: i was fine with the "old" code
[12:36] <tsdgeos> not sure how much it has changed
[12:36] <mzanetti> right... I don't think it change a whole lot, but yeah. let's give it a check
[12:39] <mzanetti> dandrader, looks like a lot of jenkins failures
[12:39] <mzanetti> all related to dragging
[12:40] <dandrader> mzanetti, you mean autopilot?
[12:41] <mzanetti> dandrader, qmltests
[12:41] <mzanetti> dandrader, https://jenkins.qa.ubuntu.com/job/unity-phablet-qmluitests-vivid/701/
[12:41] <dandrader> mzanetti, ah, found them now
[12:41] <tsdgeos> ah yeah i think that's why i didn't review last time i went over it
[12:50] <Saviq> Cimi, when you're free, bug #1330959 would be a nice fix now the shape can do it
[12:50] <mzanetti> dandrader, interestingly the right edge is "smooth as silk" indeed, but the launcher seems jumpy now :)
[12:51] <dandrader> oh boy
[12:51] <mzanetti> still good enough I guess
[12:51] <mzanetti> wouldn't block on it I think
[12:52] <mzanetti> it's really only when you intentionally try to get the slowest possible speed that is still recognized as a drag
[12:53] <tsdgeos> elopio: do you think you're getting https://code.launchpad.net/~canonical-platform-qa/ubuntu-ui-toolkit/fix1401517-overwrite_swipe_borders/+merge/248986 in soon?
[12:53] <tsdgeos> asking to know how "urgent" is to review https://code.launchpad.net/~canonical-platform-qa/unity8/click_item_with_swipe/+merge/245051 that seems to depend on it
[12:55] <Cimi> Saviq, I was having a look at the recency in the spread, but I can do this easily probably
[12:56] <Saviq> Cimi, as you wish
[12:56] <mzanetti> dandrader, do we still have something like dragArea.status == Undecided?
[12:56] <mzanetti> dandrader, I think that's the issue. the launcher should be visible during that state too
[12:58] <mzanetti> dandrader, also from an API point of view I guess having a property "pressed" in addition to the "dragging" one would make sense I think
[12:59] <dandrader> mzanetti, no there's no "dragArea.status == Undecided" in the public API
[12:59] <dandrader> mzanetti, but now touchX, touchY etc will only move once the gesture is recognized
[13:00] <dandrader> mzanetti, and touchX,touchY,etc will move in a smooth way, instead of jumping to the actual touch position
[13:00] <mzanetti> right.. wonder why the launcher appears too late then
[13:01] <dandrader> mzanetti, wider drag threshold most likelly
[13:01] <mzanetti> dandrader, also line 2820 in the diff makes me suspicious a bit
[13:02] <mzanetti> dandrader, so the idea from design was to show the launcher's shadow immediately when you touch, but only bring in the launcher when actually dragging
[13:02] <mzanetti> dandrader, so having a "pressed" property that is true when a touch is there, but no gesture recognized would get us that I think.
[13:03] <mzanetti> like: pressed && !dragging == Undecided
[13:07] <dandrader> mzanetti, ok
[13:59] <elopio> tsdgeos: not getting it too soon. I've put it back to work in progress.
[13:59] <tsdgeos> ok
[14:55] <tsdgeos> Mirv: tried the new qt with the patch that was supposed to fix kuniqueapplication, it doesn't
[15:07] <Saviq> dednick, desktop-app-focus diff still looks very much b0rked, is it based on something other than trunk?
[15:07] <Saviq> or is it supposed to be almost 2kloc
[15:07] <Saviq> ?
[15:08] <dednick> Saviq: i've added mocking for Utils plugin
[15:09] <dednick> and it's almost 1.2k ;)
[15:09] <Saviq> dednick, ah, please be more descriptive in commit msg :)
[15:14] <tsdgeos> dednick: you almost got me in https://code.launchpad.net/~nick-dedekind/unity8/1436982.message-freeze/+merge/255702 ;) https://code.launchpad.net/~nick-dedekind/unity8/1436982.message-freeze/+merge/255702/comments/638192
[15:15] <dednick> tsdgeos: : woops :)
[15:16] <dednick> copy paste is my enemy
[15:16] <dednick> but couldn't live without it
[15:18] <dednick> guess i should add tests for those...
[15:28] <tsdgeos> dednick: also i'm kind of confused as to why https://code.launchpad.net/~nick-dedekind/unity8/1436982.message-freeze/+merge/255702 fixes the said bug
[15:28] <tsdgeos> which property is being updated on pressing clera all?
[15:30] <dednick> tsdgeos: i believe it's a property on the org.freedesktop.Accounts.User interface. There is only a "Changed" signal, so any property that is altered causes the maybeChanged slot to be called.
[15:30] <dednick> tsdgeos: i'm guessing it's XHasMessages
[15:31] <dednick> it's a bit of a shite interface.
[15:32] <dednick> well, in the sense that it doesn't tell you what's changed.
[15:32] <tsdgeos> yeah
[15:32] <tsdgeos> i can see
[15:32] <Saviq> dednick, tsdgeos, looks like what mzanetti was fighting on the launcher?
[15:33] <kapiteined> Saviq: did you see i was able to reproduce the screen rotate lock bug?
[15:33] <mzanetti> erm, wat?
[15:33] <Saviq> mzanetti, lag in launcher
[15:33] <mzanetti> ah
[15:33] <dednick> Saviq: could be. i think he put an async call in there
[15:33] <Saviq> mzanetti, due to AS
[15:33] <Saviq> kapiteined, not yet
[15:33] <mzanetti> yeah... changing one of the builtin properties causes *everything* to update
[15:34] <kapiteined> ok, take your time, it was just a heads up.
[15:34] <dednick> maybe worth looking into fixing underlying issue (ie Changed(propertyName)). assuming it's safe to do that.
[15:35] <mzanetti> dednick, I had a chat with mterry about that... proper fix would probably be to patch accountsservice
[15:35] <mzanetti> and yes, we're not exactly sure what else relies on the general changed() signal. but sure, we could just not use that ourselves
[15:36] <mzanetti> dednick, where do you see the issue?
[15:36] <dednick> mzanetti: clearing or adding a message in indicators
[15:37] <dednick> calls the maybeChanged, which refreshes background as an async call.
[15:37] <dednick> which can take ages for some reason
[15:37] <dednick> *as an sync call.
[15:38] <mzanetti> dednick, yeah, exactly what I had in launcher drag'n'drop. this is what I did: http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~unity-team/unity8/trunk/revision/1678
[15:40] <dednick> mzanetti: right. i've changed the getUserProperty to async for updates.
[16:27] <Mirv> tsdgeos: ok :(
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2015-04-15-#ubuntustudio
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[09:01] <giv> Hey. I'm new, and have some problems with an api2 errno - 16 at start screen
[16:43] <studio-user242> ciao a tutti
[16:44] <zequence> studio-user242: Hello
[23:58] <robbin> i need help guys
[23:59] <robbin> Synaptic does 'INSTAL" the files but when i go search for em thereś no way i can find em
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2015-04-15-#ubuntu-tw
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[11:06] <rick_> Hi 大家...ubuntu 14.04.2 多了好多 xxx-lts-trusty xxx-lts-utopic ....這兩種有差嗎?
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2015-04-15-#ubuntu-us-pa
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[09:25] <rmg51> Morning
[12:03] <teddy-dbear> Morning peoples and whatever else is around
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2015-04-15-#ubuntu-gr
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[07:26] <Tassos> Καλημέρα φίλοι μου! :))
[07:32] <Anoniem4l> kalhmera
[07:34] <salih-emin> καλημέρες
[07:38] <kerato> geiassspaidjia
[07:39] <Anoniem4l> lol
[09:07] <Anoniem4l> salih-emin: pote skaei http/2?
[09:07] <Anoniem4l> arxes 2016 h pio nwris?
[09:07] <salih-emin> 16
[09:07] <Anoniem4l> hmm
[09:07] <Anoniem4l> pia einai h gnwmh sou panw sto thema?
[09:11] <salih-emin> Καιρός ήταν
[09:11] <Anoniem4l> true
[09:11] <salih-emin> το http1 φτιάχτικε σε εποχές 1991
[09:11] <Anoniem4l> teleuteo update htan to 1999
[09:11] <salih-emin> ακριβώς
[09:34] <Anoniem4l> http://www.techworm.net/2015/02/linux-used-build-us-navys-powerful-destroyer-yet.html
[11:12] <harispc> Hi guys
[11:13] <fanious> kalispera!!
[11:32] <harispc> Γεια @fanious
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2015-04-15-#ubuntu-community-team
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[13:43] <davidcalle> All went well, again, they called us back to check a few things, nothing conclusive : just wait until the fever disappear. -_-"
[13:49] <dholbach> great
[13:49] * dholbach hugs davidcalle
[13:49] <davidcalle> dholbach, :)
[16:16] <popey> dholbach: mhall119 balloons dpm so do you think we should ask IS via an RT for [email protected]?
[16:17] <dholbach> [email protected] almost sounds like [email protected] :)
[16:20] <balloons> :-)
[16:23] <popey> yeah
[16:23] <popey> and people may send mail to one by mistake
[16:23] <popey> making an intentionally private mail to be public
[16:35] <mhall119> we can do [email protected] but that might have the same problem
[16:35] <mhall119> or [email protected]
[16:36] <popey> i prefer having ubuntu-community-team and canonical-community-team as that's clear (to me at least) which list is which
[16:36] <mhall119> yeah, explicit is better than implicit
[17:00] <inetpro> can a canonical team be a community team?
[17:00] <inetpro> is it not exclusive?
[17:00] <popey> no
[17:01] <popey> canonical are part of the community
[17:01] <popey> canonical-community-team is short for "canonical employed people who work on the community team"
[17:01] <inetpro> ah, that makes sense
[17:11] <mhall119> inetpro: "Community Team" is our official designation within Canonical's heirarchy
[17:11] <mhall119> so the name serves to distinguish us from other parts of Canonical
[17:11] <mhall119> rather than us from other parts of the community
[17:14] * inetpro gets it now
[17:38] <balloons> mhall119, I forget to ask about the autopilot docs. When will those land on the site?
[18:02] <mhall119> balloons: the RT has been filed, hopefully it'll be in staging this week,but I wouldn't bank on it being in production until next week
[18:04] <PabloRubianes> jose: respondio Dante o.o
[18:27] <balloons> mhall119, ack.. can you cc me on the rt, along with chris lee?
[18:33] <inetpro> hmm... too much CC now :-)
[18:53] <mhall119> balloons: it's already sent, but I can keep you updated
[19:10] <balloons> mhall119, I believe you can add as as cc after the fact yes? I just want to not have to bug you for status :-)
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2015-04-15-#ubuntu-hr
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[06:01] <BotaniCar> Jutro, ljudi :)
[06:03] <BotaniCar> Procitao sam "Trokutek" i bas mi se dopalo, mmike :)
[08:26] <BotaniCar> ivoks: mislim da ti uvrstavanje openstacka u topic nije bio pre mudar potez :) Vec 2 podverzije nisi anaunsao :)
[08:32] <ivoks> heh
[08:34] <BotaniCar> lijepo je vidjeti da se CVEi rjesavaju, cim ih ima znaci da je userbase solidan
[08:38] <SilverSpace> ha daa
[08:38] <ivoks> kakvi cvei?
[08:39] <BotaniCar> Recimo https://bugs.launchpad.net/glance/+bug/1400966
[08:39] <BotaniCar> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WWNjBWfW58s
[08:39] <datase> YouTube: katchusa - 0:02:17 - 2,301 views - 3 likes / 1 dislikes
[08:43] <SilverSpace> same zajebancije
[08:44] <SilverSpace> sad mi se ni windozi nece podignut
[08:44] <SilverSpace> a samo sam povecao particiju
[08:44] <BotaniCar> i sjebo butloader
[08:44] <BotaniCar> aj repair
[08:45] <SilverSpace> nemam cd kam uturiti
[08:45] <BotaniCar> slozi boot usb
[08:45] <SilverSpace> baci me u plavi ekran i onda reboota
[08:45] <BotaniCar> kaj veli bluskrin ?
[08:46] <SilverSpace> ni u SMod
[08:46] <SilverSpace> nece
[08:46] <SilverSpace> BotaniCar: ne vidim prebrzo rebutne
[08:49] <BotaniCar> onda slozi boot USB i daj mu da slozi , kaj sad
[08:50] <SilverSpace> da nema druge
[08:53] <SilverSpace> ha za to trebam ispravne windoze :)
[08:54] <BotaniCar> Pa nemas jedan komp doma :)
[08:54] <BotaniCar> rufus i udri ( ili s cim vec inace radis bootabilen usbove )
[08:56] <SilverSpace> nemas vise
[08:56] <SilverSpace> vidim da se i iz ubuntu
[08:57] <SilverSpace> http://askubuntu.com/questions/289559/how-can-i-create-a-windows-bootable-usb-stick-with-ubuntu
[08:58] <BotaniCar> Mozes , umalo, i s mobitela :)
[09:12] <SilverSpace> jaj sad i nikad vise
[10:06] <weshmashian> mornin'
[10:30] <BotaniCar> Samo se meni desava da u 2015 godini naletim na hardver koji linuxi ne prepoznaju :)
[10:30] <BotaniCar> Zivjeli wifi donlovi ! :)
[10:40] <SilverSpace> joj ovaj repair ce mi sjebati i grub
[10:43] <BotaniCar> hoce, to lako popravis
[10:50] <SilverSpace> grrrrrrrrrrr
[10:51] <SilverSpace> kaj klinjo napravi
[10:51] <SilverSpace> zabavu za dva dana
[10:51] <BotaniCar> Jos nisi gotov ?:D
[10:51] <SilverSpace> BotaniCar: ne sjebe grub
[10:51] <SilverSpace> :)
[10:52] <BotaniCar> Eto, jos imas i srece :)
[10:52] <SilverSpace> samo je popravio windoze
[10:52] <SilverSpace> hajd bok odoh van :)
[10:52] <SilverSpace> sretan i zadovoljan
[10:52] <BotaniCar> :P Prokleti dokoni penzioneri :) i ja bi tak' :)
[10:53] <SilverSpace> kita
[10:54] <SilverSpace> opet plavi ekran
[10:54] <SilverSpace> sad bar pocne
[10:54] <BotaniCar> Daj procitaj kaj pise :)
[10:54] <SilverSpace> ne stignem
[10:54] <SilverSpace> odoh van
[11:33] <ivoks> http://www.jutarnji.hr/citatelji-u-inspekciji-prehrane-po-bolnicama/1331403/?foto=6
[11:44] <Mmike> Mlji ,ljeam jalj
[11:49] <BotaniCar> orbororobor
[11:51] <Mmike> hm
[13:32] <tonil> BotaniCar, http://lajk.s3.index.hr/index/0845eca0-1cd7-45a4-9b57-c6182e3447e1.gif
[15:08] <jelly> ode paprika
[15:08] <SilverSpace> ?
[15:08] <jelly> <-- babura has quit (Client Quit)
[15:10] <Mmike> RUKABORTOROT
[15:10] <Mmike> e
[15:10] <Mmike> znate kak ivoks ima glasnu tastaturu?
[15:10] <Mmike> cula se skroz do nuernberga!
[15:14] <SilverSpace> :)
[15:17] <Mmike> nos mi se raspada
[15:17] <Mmike> suh zrak
[15:17] <SilverSpace> sjebo sam si mobitel sjebo sam si windoze sjebo sam si ubuntu
[15:17] <Mmike> iako tu opce nije tak suh zrak
[15:17] <Mmike> SilverSpace: sad se idi malo vozi na biciklu :)
[15:17] <SilverSpace> setao sam dva sata
[15:17] <SilverSpace> Mmike: os rec da ne sjebem jos kaj
[15:18] <Mmike> ;)
[15:18] <SilverSpace> iššš
[15:18] <SilverSpace> :)
[15:19] <jelly> ne valja hvalit vmware, sad mi je usro server kod backupa
[15:19] <jelly> jes da je VM malo veci, 1.6TB
[15:22] <SilverSpace> vise nis ne kupujem od dx.com nisu mi vratili 30$
[15:23] <Mmike> DAS INTERNET IS FUR DAS PORN!
[15:23] <Mmike> DIE INTERNET?
[15:23] <Mmike> weshmashian: kolega tu pjeva to stalno kad god me vidi :)
[15:24] <ipozgaj> yo
[15:32] <SilverSpace> ne kuzim kaj se moze dogoditi windozima kad povecavas particiju
[15:32] <SilverSpace> ne kuzim
[15:35] <jelly> zlo
[15:36] <jelly> oʞɐdoɐu ᴉ
[15:45] <weshmashian> Mmike: ko da zna da si radio sa pr0nom :)
[15:46] <Mmike> SilverSpace: cim si povecavao patriciju/
[15:46] <Mmike> weshmashian: NOT WITH THE CONTENT!
[15:46] <Mmike> :)
[15:49] <SilverSpace> Mmike: gparted
[15:52] <Mmike> SilverSpace: tja................ meni radilo to ok do sad vise puta
[15:56] <SilverSpace> Mmike: i meni reko bi da sam smanjivao pa de se sjebe ali povecavanje
[16:00] <ipozgaj> to radi bez problema jos tamo od vindoza dveiljade
[16:06] <Vlado9A3CY> dobar dan :)
[16:39] <Mmike> ovaj openerp
[16:39] <Mmike> nije bas najbolja stvar na svijetu
[16:39] <Mmike> spor je zapopizdit
[16:48] <Mmike> kaj je najgorel, load na serveroshu ne postoji :/
[16:48] <Mmike> ipozgaj: pa djesi
[16:52] <ipozgaj> evo me
[16:52] <ipozgaj> na poslu
[16:53] <ipozgaj> radim dnevni report za NSA :
[16:53] <ipozgaj> :P
[16:55] <Mmike> milina
[16:55] <Mmike> reci da bi ja bio dobar asset
[16:55] <Mmike> imam grudi, imam sve :)
[16:57] <ipozgaj> jel volis freedom i american way of life? :D
[16:57] <Mmike> nope
[16:57] <Mmike> doritos
[16:57] <Mmike> :)
[16:57] <ipozgaj> haha
[16:58] <ipozgaj> jbte pa to je jedan od najgoris cipseva
[16:58] <Mmike> donio sam jedno 5-6 vrecica doritosa i cheetosa
[16:58] <ipozgaj> kud bas taj
[16:58] <Mmike> najbolji totilja cips
[16:58] <ipozgaj> care, tostidos obicni i pico de gallo
[16:58] <ipozgaj> nema boljeg
[16:58] <ipozgaj> tostitos*
[16:59] <Mmike> tositos su prva liga, slazem se
[16:59] <Mmike> nisam taj 'gola pica' probao :)
[16:59] <Mmike> al' ima fakat jebackih umakov
[16:59] <ipozgaj> taj je meksicki klasik
[16:59] <ipozgaj> pico de gallo
[16:59] <ipozgaj> rajcice, cilanto, luk i lime juice
[16:59] <ipozgaj> i jalapeño
[17:05] <vileni> jelly: s cim bekapiras vm-ove?
[17:08] <Mmike> vp
[17:08] <Mmike> cp, to jest
[17:08] <vileni> :)
[17:08] <Mmike> melita: jel' ti volis pico galo? :)
[17:08] <vileni> Mmike: jesi rijesio ono sa esxi migracijom?
[17:08] <Mmike> gle frajericu, ipv6ta se
[17:08] <melita> Mmike: morning lol da :D
[17:08] <Mmike> vileni: migracijom?
[17:08] <vileni> Mmike: nesto si ispitivao za esxi
[17:08] <melita> de* ti fali
[17:08] <vileni> o melita
[17:09] <vileni> i ipozgaj
[17:09] <Mmike> vileni: ma da, kak se mogu spojit na njega a da nemam ssh, tj, di da nadjem klijent i to sve
[17:09] <vileni> skoro pa vas nikad ne vidim istovremeno, i jos da tipkate :)
[17:09] <Mmike> sigurno su jedno drugome u krilu :)
[17:10] <vileni> Mmike: klijent skines sa web sucelja
[17:10] <vileni> od hosta
[17:10] <vileni> ili sa vmware stranice
[17:10] <vileni> tamo mozes osposobiti ssh
[17:10] <vileni> ali mislim da je jelly rekao da je bolje kroz njihov cli, koji se zasebno instalira
[17:11] <Mmike> vileni: a kaj mogu onda vidjet koji hardver imam tamo i to sve? lshw-like stuff?
[17:11] <vileni> Mmike: kroz klijent mozes sve, ali to je za windowse samo
[17:11] <vileni> i onako, poveci je :)
[17:12] <vileni> kroz ssh mozes isto dosta toga, ali to rijetko koristim
[17:14] <vileni> Mmike: mislim da ti treba vsphere remote command line
[17:15] <markosejic> d dan
[17:15] <Mmike> vileni: znaci, nema klijenta za non-ndoze?
[17:15] <Mmike> pa jebem ti ja taj kurac od pimpeka
[17:15] <vileni> Mmike: ovo zadnje sto sam napisao ima za linux
[17:16] <vileni> ali sto je tocno to, nemam pojma :)
[17:16] <Mmike> sutra cemo to
[17:16] <Mmike> ne stignem sad
[17:16] <Mmike> MAAS MAAS me zajebava
[17:16] <Mmike> obruT: kak prosla tvoja openstack eskapada na centosu?
[18:12] <obruT> Mmike: trenutno stoji jer trebam dofurat jos neke kante
[18:14] <ipozgaj> fakat, melita kako ti ides sa ipv6 a ja sa ipv4
[18:15] <ipozgaj> a sa istog sourcea
[18:15] <ipozgaj> sigurno moj glupi klijent
[18:16] <obruT> meni je u klijentu iskljuceno, inace ga AFAIK preferira
[18:17] <ipozgaj> ce da pitam na support channelu :)
[18:24] <melita> ipozgaj: haha :D
[18:24] <melita> ja sam vise cool :D
[18:27] <ipozgaj> there, fixed :)
[18:32] <obruT> ja se ne spajam s ipv6 samo iz jednog razloga... registrirana je na moje ime i ne samo to, u whois bazi za nju izbaci i moju adresu i telefon :P djubrad
[18:32] <obruT> odnosno ne spajam se s ove kante s koje sam uvijek spojen... od doma bi mogo bez beda s ipv6 bez problema s privatnoscu
[18:33] <vileni> obruT: to ti neki hosting?
[18:33] <obruT> vps
[18:33] <vileni> i daje whois na ipv6? to nisam znao :)
[18:34] <vileni> btw, logitech mk520 je uzasna
[18:35] <vileni> moj vps nema ipv6 izgleda
[18:38] <obruT> hmm, preskacu mi mp3-jevi... nesto je sumnjivo :)
[18:38] <obruT> tko je to ripo suncemu
[18:56] <ipozgaj> obruT: mp3? to je so 00's :P
[19:17] <obruT> eh, kad cuvam arhivu svega od svagda :)
[19:38] <SilverSpace> joj naravno windoze nanovo istalirao i sad mi sjebu grub
[19:45] <frainfreeze> Reklama: https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/2084336794/awaken-1
[19:51] <Mmike> obruT: znaci, nisi jos nit probo?
[19:51] <Mmike> vileni: mk520 je uzasna :) jos tastatura kak tak, ali mis... :)
[19:57] <vileni> Mmike: meni tipkovnica znatno losija od misa
[19:57] <Mmike> K200?
[19:57] <Mmike> nist posebno
[19:57] <Mmike> onak, ok-jach
[19:57] <Mmike> ja imam K270
[19:57] <Mmike> bezicna
[19:57] <Mmike> ok je
[19:57] <vileni> pa nije to k200
[19:57] <Mmike> al' imam M710 za misa
[19:57] <Mmike> nije?
[19:58] <Mmike> eh
[19:58] <vileni> valjda nije
[19:58] <vileni> k520
[19:58] <vileni> a mis je m310
[20:02] <SilverSpace> oo lenovo ima dobro rijeseno update driver nakon instalacije windoza
[20:03] <SilverSpace> Mmike: jel to bezicni
[20:03] <SilverSpace> mis
[20:33] <Mmike> SilverSpace: je
[20:33] <Mmike> SilverSpace: i opce nije los
[20:33] <Mmike> malo je malen
[20:33] <Mmike> al' ne k'o m3xx ili m5xx
[20:33] <Mmike> ja ga za laptop imam i fakt je ok
[20:33] <Mmike> a za doma imam performance MX
[20:33] <Mmike> i taj je fino dobar
[20:35] <vileni> meni je doma deathadder + cm storm mehanicka, kao gaming setup :)
[20:35] <vileni> ali posto gledam na svom kompu, onda tipkam na ovoj mk520
[20:35] <Mmike> ja obozavam dobru mehanicku
[20:36] <vileni> zapravo sam trebao obrnuto, otvoriti video na ovom kompu
[20:36] <vileni> ali bio sam lijen prebacivati link
[20:37] <Mmike> bed je sto su mehanicke glasne
[20:37] <Mmike> k'o sto je ivoks danas demonstrirao :)
[20:37] <vileni> neke vise, neke manje :)
[20:37] <vileni> moja je glasna, jer uopce nisam dobio onu koju sam htio
[20:41] <Mmike> ne, sve su glasne
[20:41] <Mmike> ak ti zena spava u istoj sobi ti tipkas
[20:41] <Mmike> svaka je glasna
[20:42] <vileni> u spavacoj nema kompjutera :)
[20:42] <vileni> a s druge strane, ako uspije zaspati u dnevnoj, onda je toliko umorna da joj je svejedno
[20:47] <Mmike> u spavacoj je dete :)
[20:58] <jelly> vileni: TSM for virtual environment cini mi se
[21:03] <CrazyLemon> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rAzwuEmZcmE
[21:03] <datase> YouTube: SpaceX CRS-6 First Stage Landing - 0:00:23 - 301 views - 67 likes / 0 dislikes
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"CrazyLemon",
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"Vlado9A3CY",
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"tonil",
"vileni",
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2015-04-15-#ubuntu-my
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[11:57] <najmi> mypapit: wassup
[12:01] <mypapit> najmi, wuzzup
[12:01] <mypapit> wtfff
[12:01] <mypapit> najmi, all good!
[12:01] <najmi> apa bikin
[12:01] <najmi> dh upgrade kernel 4.0 blum
[12:02] <mypapit> najmi, belum lg
[12:02] <najmi> ok
[12:02] <mypapit> sbb belum ada masa free betul2
[12:02] <mypapit> najmi, nnt next week ada cuti seminggu
[12:02] <mypapit> boleh la experiment2
[12:02] <najmi> ko buat research apa skrg
[12:02] <najmi> dh dpt programmeer ke dari jomweb
[12:02] <mypapit> najmi, huuu
[12:03] <mypapit> najmi, dpt.. carikan programmer untuk projek kawan
[12:03] <najmi> programmer tu ok tak
[12:03] <najmi> dia expert dgn language apa
[12:03] <mypapit> najmi, tak pasti, kawan aku interview pulak
[12:03] <najmi> ok
[12:03] <mypapit> najmi, ruby on rails
[12:03] <najmi> karang riki2
[12:03] <najmi> tanyakan rate sekali
[12:03] <mypapit> najmi, oraiittt :)
[12:03] <mypapit> najmi, rate programmer tu ke?
[12:03] <najmi> yup
[12:04] <najmi> kalau dia dh confirm la
[12:04] <najmi> tapi rail tu on the web kan
[12:04] <najmi> bab algo tu camne? dia boleh?
[12:04] <najmi> KNN ke apa
[12:04] <najmi> rail kosmetik yg penting algo tu
[12:31] <najmi> *maybe lepas dia settle dgn kawan ko tu aku nk ambik dia lak
[13:00] <mypapit> najmi, ya tu la
[13:01] <mypapit> najmi, algo guna pearson correlation dgn KNN
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ubuntu-chat
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"mypapit",
"najmi"
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2015-04-15-#ubuntu-discuss
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[00:26] <daftykins> EriC^^: granted i've just come home from the weekly pub quiz, thus some alcohol has been consumed, but what the hell is this josselin on about O_O
[00:27] <EriC^^> lol
[00:28] <EriC^^> beats me :D
[00:28] <daftykins> now i've gotta restart for Windows updates, but don't tell anyone else the game will be afoot...
[00:28] <EriC^^> hehe
[00:29] <EriC^^> ok
[00:30] <daftykins> done \o/
[00:30] <daftykins> SSDs are great
[00:30] <EriC^^> cool
[04:32] <uncleRoy> Evening ... anyone here?
[04:48] <lotuspsychje> good morning to all
[04:55] <lotuspsychje> http://linux.softpedia.com/blog/No-Reboot-Patching-Comes-to-Ubuntu-15-10-via-Linux-Kernel-4-0-Says-Mark-Shuttleworth-478400.shtml
[05:00] <lotuspsychje> ablest1980: yes morning here
[05:01] <lotuspsychje> 7h
[05:01] <ablest1980> 1am
[05:01] <ablest1980> here
[05:01] <lotuspsychje> cool
[05:02] <lotuspsychje> ablest1980: how long do you support in #ubuntu?
[05:02] <ablest1980> today?
[05:02] <lotuspsychje> all time :p
[05:03] <ablest1980> since 14.04lts
[05:03] <lotuspsychje> cool, you running trusty yourself?
[05:03] <ablest1980> yes
[05:03] <lotuspsychje> me too, i like LTS
[05:03] <ablest1980> me too
[05:04] <lotuspsychje> ablest1980: im gonna start an ubuntu computer shop in my country soon
[05:04] <ablest1980> uk?
[05:04] <lotuspsychje> with only samsung 850 pro ssd's inside and trusty
[05:04] <lotuspsychje> belgium
[05:05] <ablest1980> cool
[05:05] <lotuspsychje> ill try to sell laptops, desktops, tablets and ubuntu phone
[05:05] <lotuspsychje> i think the mass public is ready for this
[05:06] <ablest1980> yes
[05:06] <ablest1980> wish you luck
[05:06] <lotuspsychje> ablest1980: thank you
[05:06] <ablest1980> np SD
[05:06] <ablest1980> XD
[05:06] <lotuspsychje> ablest1980: wich machine do you run trusty on
[05:06] <ablest1980> hp pavilion
[05:06] <ablest1980> notebook
[05:06] <ablest1980> g6
[05:07] <lotuspsychje> ablest1980: ah nice, do you know if HP sells barebone laptops?
[05:07] <lotuspsychje> i hear hp is really linux friendly
[05:07] <ki7mt> They are for sure
[05:07] <ablest1980> for me yes
[05:07] <ki7mt> There printers are really good with Linux.
[05:07] <ki7mt> Their ..
[05:08] <lotuspsychje> im looking for a barebone laptop company who can send laptops without Os and Hd's
[05:08] <lotuspsychje> ki7mt: yeah thats my plan also, only hp printer with that hplip tools installed
[05:08] <ki7mt> All of them would, given enough $$ on the table.
[05:09] <lotuspsychje> did you see those new HP pc monitors, their fantastic
[05:09] <ablest1980> lotuspsychje https://system76.com/
[05:10] <lotuspsychje> ablest1980: yeah i know them, pretty nice but rather expensive
[05:10] <ki7mt> From a business standpoint, I'd stay away from high turnover hardware, the cost really comes in with locking in a configuration HW wsie, and forcing them to stick to it for say 3-5yrs.
[05:10] <lotuspsychje> ki7mt: what you mean by high turnover
[05:11] <ki7mt> If your rolling with Ubuntu, 3yrs production, 3yrs maint, 4yr needs to be dev for next release .. adn that means HW continuity for them both.
[05:11] <ki7mt> Chipset changes can cause you nightmares, component turnover ..
[05:12] <lotuspsychje> yeah i dont want broadcom and atheros chipset for sure in my systems to sell
[05:12] <ki7mt> especially with a small operation, where your Marketing, Engineering, Manufacturing and Sales :-)
[05:12] <lotuspsychje> ki7mt: wich company would you choose in my case
[05:12] <lotuspsychje> its gonna be a small stire + service
[05:13] <lotuspsychje> store
[05:13] <lotuspsychje> i dont wanna sell 10 brands of different systems to clients neither
[05:13] <ki7mt> Me personally, I like HP for Servers, and well, may as well go all in with HP. Dell is pretty descent too though, Linux support wise, BUT I hate their NIC harware.
[05:14] <lotuspsychje> dell is really fast on ubuntu i noticed
[05:14] <lotuspsychje> what kind of NIC you dont like on dell?
[05:15] <lotuspsychje> i think ill contact HP soon :p
[05:15] <ablest1980> :)
[05:15] <ki7mt> Your gonna want a small business package, for like an ofice with say 10 to 20 people or something, Servers, Network, Desktops and Laptops .. small packages, not million dollar deals, but more of a turn key setup for a small new company.
[05:16] <lotuspsychje> its gonna be smaller
[05:16] <lotuspsychje> webshop+store at home+service
[05:16] <ki7mt> Dell was BCM, Im an Intel NIC fan all the way.
[05:16] <lotuspsychje> right
[05:16] <lotuspsychje> intel wifi is pretty decent for sure
[05:17] <ablest1980> my hp is amd
[05:17] <ki7mt> Yeah, I mean, if the local coffis shop want new boxes, Laptop and Desktops or something,. it's best if you can keep all the same vendors.
[05:17] <lotuspsychje> good idea
[05:18] <ki7mt> Makes you life easy, OEM support contracts easy warranty replacements easy .. all == EASY for you to manage.
[05:18] <ablest1980> i see dell alot
[05:18] <ki7mt> Yeah, there cheap, and they have good marketing too.
[05:18] <ki7mt> HP not the the cheapest, but cheapest isn't always the "bestest" :-)
[05:19] <lotuspsychje> true
[05:19] <ki7mt> You gonna want warranty support and service support .. thats where HO is really good.
[05:19] <ki7mt> HP no HO
[05:19] <lotuspsychje> im also gonna do transforming for customers: bring your w8 machine and ill put samsung ssd 850 pro+trusty inside
[05:20] <ki7mt> Carful with that though, SSD == USB3 ..
[05:20] <ki7mt> Older boxes may only have USB2
[05:20] <lotuspsychje> its gonna be system boost for sure
[05:20] <ki7mt> The again, you could always sell them a MB upgrade package :-)
[05:21] <ki7mt> MB, RAM and SSD 800 bucks, super fast PC
[05:21] <lotuspsychje> lol
[05:21] <lotuspsychje> well for 120 euro, you got already a nice ssd from samsung
[05:21] <ki7mt> they get to reuse their Box and PSU :-)
[05:21] <lotuspsychje> yes!
[05:22] <lotuspsychje> i got me an acer netbook + ubuntu 14.04.2 64bit + samsung evo 840
[05:22] <lotuspsychje> goes rocketfast
[05:22] <lotuspsychje> 5sec boot 3 sec halt
[05:22] <ki7mt> That's the Buiz I'd go after, Upgrade Buiz .. + Linux
[05:22] <ki7mt> then you cna Gaurentt 10x faster boots or whtever Marketing Blurb ya want to use.
[05:23] <ki7mt> Gaurentee ..
[05:23] <lotuspsychje> check this one: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nRYGuM4ckN0
[05:24] <ki7mt> that drive here is about 80 bucks.
[05:24] <lotuspsychje> yeah im gonna use that for marketing trick for sure
[05:24] <lotuspsychje> resource your computer is my slogan
[05:24] <lotuspsychje> once they got LTS installed, they use their machines for years
[05:25] <lotuspsychje> no comming back to the pc store every month with virusses :p
[05:25] <ki7mt> yeah, so 100 buxk for MB, 100 bucks for SSD, and noew i5 100 bucks, Gross Margin ( Selling Price - Cost ) / Selling Price, your target needs to be 45-50% Gross Margin.
[05:25] <lotuspsychje> i can save money with the barebones, no pay for the Os and hd
[05:25] <ki7mt> So from there you can set you Sellign price for the Package.
[05:26] <ki7mt> Yeah, of course, but you gotta make money, and at some point, gotta pay yourself :-)
[05:26] <lotuspsychje> yeah sure, im gonna try to setup neat prices <+ benefit
[05:26] <ki7mt> Bare bones Laptops are not easy to get hold of, for the very reason your talking about.
[05:27] <lotuspsychje> BTO laptops.nl does it, but not very cheap neither
[05:27] <lotuspsychje> i hope i can make a deal with HP
[05:28] <ki7mt> Nope, they dont want them cheap ./. You may be better of, buy a minimal equipted box, stipping it out, upgrade it, then sell off the other stuff on Ebay or whtever.
[05:28] <lotuspsychje> or placing the existing hd into a case for storage for the customer
[05:29] <ki7mt> Yeah, your gonna need an edge somwhere as there's no way you can compete with their Marketing, Sales & Service.
[05:29] <lotuspsychje> but as you said, i dont wanna be the cheapest
[05:29] <lotuspsychje> i want stable + fast
[05:29] <ki7mt> I really loo hard at low-end i5 Laptops, and make sure I could upgrade them to what I wanted.
[05:30] <ki7mt> .. look hard ..
[05:30] <lotuspsychje> ok
[05:30] <ki7mt> if it will run an I5, it will run an i3 and i7 more than liekly, but it's the SSD cost, RAM upgrades and the like you need to look at.
[05:31] <ki7mt> Th thing is, with an SSD, you dont need an i7
[05:31] <lotuspsychje> yeah with 4 or 8gig ram + ssd 850 pro, it will do magic on the machine
[05:31] <lotuspsychje> true
[05:31] <lotuspsychje> too pricy for the end customer also
[05:31] <lotuspsychje> or maybe a gaming monster once in a while
[05:31] <ki7mt> Not unless your a developer of something where you max out CPU cycles allot.
[05:31] <lotuspsychje> steam gaming desktop
[05:32] <ki7mt> Thats more GPU than CPU
[05:32] <lotuspsychje> true
[05:32] <ki7mt> Then ya sell them your Deaktop Gamming Version for mo $$$
[05:32] <ki7mt> Desktop ..
[05:32] <lotuspsychje> the gaming part will be harder
[05:33] <lotuspsychje> as i have to convice them only use steam
[05:33] <ki7mt> Hook them with the work setup, real them in with Gamming and Dev Workstations.
[05:33] <lotuspsychje> i think: lowcost netbook, multimedia laptop,high end laptop
[05:33] <ki7mt> Real gamers know what they need, but that's not what sells, it's "what they want" is what sells, hard core gamers always over buy what they really need.
[05:34] <lotuspsychje> then mulitmedia dekstop, and high end gaming desktop
[05:34] <lotuspsychje> system76 makes difference with mulitmedia/business
[05:34] <ki7mt> they need 32GB ram, 2x SSD's i7's or Multi-CPU AMD's Nvidia Quadro's on and on an on
[05:34] <lotuspsychje> i wont do that
[05:35] <lotuspsychje> wanna keep it simple
[05:35] <ki7mt> lol that's smart
[05:35] <lotuspsychje> so sticking to i5 is good idea
[05:35] <ki7mt> I built allot of custom Water-Cooled boxes for Gamers, they stupid money on that crap. All so they can overclock it, and buy a new one next year when it frys
[05:35] <lotuspsychje> tnx for the hint
[05:36] <ki7mt> I thin i5 or really, i3 for a Laprop, then you get much better Batt Life, but i5 is a brand name seller for sure.
[05:37] <lotuspsychje> you know of those intel NUC's perform good on ubuntu?
[05:37] <ki7mt> it all depends. I mean really, most people use their laptop for surfing and social media, with Music and a few vid's thrown in for good measure, that dont take allot of CPU power.
[05:38] <lotuspsychje> might get a 'clean' feeling as house desktop with neat hp screen :p
[05:38] <lotuspsychje> small NUC on their table :p
[05:38] <ki7mt> I built several NUC's and alot of Mini-ITX boxed .. ~500 bucks out the door.
[05:38] <lotuspsychje> nice
[05:39] <ki7mt> I use i3 3.8Ghz 2 core ( not quad ) for the Mini-ITX boxes.
[05:39] <lotuspsychje> maybe ill use the cheapest NUC as lowend desktop
[05:39] <ki7mt> there really fast, and with amSATA or SSD, stupid fast.
[05:40] <lotuspsychje> yeah msata samsung 850 pro
[05:40] <lotuspsychje> will rocknroll
[05:40] <ki7mt> Checkinto the Mini-ITX i5 boards, 200 bucks, CPU and MB, add SSD, your at 300 bucks, Ram, 100 bucks, case 50 bucks, Ubuntu OS. Done.
[05:41] <ki7mt> al for 450 bucks. and lightening fast.
[05:41] <lotuspsychje> nice
[05:41] <ki7mt> and it will run ion your car with a 7" LCD display
[05:42] <ki7mt> in your car .. if ya got a AC plug that is
[05:42] <lotuspsychje> the store will make a new ubuntu life
[05:42] <lotuspsychje> with the BQ and meizu phone thats on the market
[05:42] <lotuspsychje> will be nice
[05:42] <ki7mt> Im gonna sell the Mini-ITX boxes to Ham radio guys, they love them
[05:42] <lotuspsychje> ill transform nexus7 as ubuntu touch tablets too
[05:42] <lotuspsychje> cool idea
[05:43] <ki7mt> i thought about that, but it's fiddly for me, Im better with normal boxes.
[05:43] <lotuspsychje> ki7mt: its really not hard to do, check the #ubuntu-touch topic to install
[05:43] <lotuspsychje> i bought me a nexus7 just for ubuntu
[05:43] <lotuspsychje> and runs flawless
[05:44] <ki7mt> Yeah, I know, allot of folks think ya gonna be a rocket scientist .. it's really not that hard.
[05:44] <lotuspsychje> lol
[05:44] <ki7mt> Just look at the Raspberry Pi's those things are like gold .. and only 35 Bucks here.
[05:45] <lotuspsychje> nice n cheap
[05:45] <ki7mt> shoot, a 16GB mSD card costs 2/3 rds the price of the Pi .. LOL
[05:45] <lotuspsychje> lol lol
[05:45] <ki7mt> I bought a card for mine, was like 18 dollars, Pi was 35.
[05:46] <ki7mt> and it's a Quad Core 1Hgz ARM
[05:46] <ki7mt> 1Ghz ARMv7
[05:46] <lotuspsychje> with snappy core, its gonna be even more intersting in the future
[05:46] <lotuspsychje> many brands will use ubuntu
[05:46] <ki7mt> It's impressive to say the least, Im runnign Lubuntu ( Debian Jessie + LXDE ) and it works great.
[05:47] <lotuspsychje> did you hear about ninja spere?
[05:47] <lotuspsychje> nice
[05:47] <ki7mt> Yeah, I just burned the Ubuntu Core image yesterday, I've not isntalled it yet, gonna check it out.
[05:47] <ki7mt> No, what' Ninja Sphere?
[05:47] <lotuspsychje> holdon
[05:48] <lotuspsychje> https://ninjablocks.com/
[05:49] <lotuspsychje> its an inernet of things device running on snappy :p
[05:49] <ki7mt> That's pretty cool. Our Frig has a computer on the front of it, WiFI an All, the other half googl's cooking directions all the time, good ole Gordon Ramsey :-)
[05:49] <lotuspsychje> lol
[05:50] <lotuspsychje> ill nmap your frig and hack me an egg :p
[05:50] <ki7mt> dont tell I said this, but she can't cook at all .. but .. she tries, is all I ask :-)
[05:50] <lotuspsychje> if its good between the sheets, no worries :p:p
[05:50] <ki7mt> So I was OK with getting the more expensive Frig that told her how to cooks stuff .. LMAO
[05:51] <lotuspsychje> boil an egg once in a while yourself then
[05:51] <ki7mt> Shhet is one thing, Chow is another .. burn beans on toast suxs .. lol
[05:51] <lotuspsychje> haha
[05:52] <ki7mt> Actually, I do most of the cooking, one, she can't cook, and two, her mother never tough here how to clean, it's like a bimb goes off in the kitchen when she's done, I can't stand it.
[05:52] <ablest1980> bbl bye :D
[05:52] <ki7mt> like a bomb ...
[05:52] <lotuspsychje> ablest1980: laterz
[05:52] <ki7mt> CUL
[05:52] <lotuspsychje> lolz
[05:53] <ki7mt> Ok, I need a brew and to debug some code, so CUL after while.
[05:53] <lotuspsychje> ok cheers and tnx for the tips
[08:02] <lotuspsychje> somsip: welcome :p
[08:02] <somsip> ayup. I'm not as active as I have been as I just lurk and help while I work, but I'm usually around
[08:02] <lotuspsychje> no sweat mate, its not about whos' most active, just the quality of supporters :p
[08:03] <lotuspsychje> we always doing support, but never have a real change to talk to each other
[08:03] <lotuspsychje> this might give some changes
[08:03] <somsip> and I admit I vary depending on caffeine levels, but I try :)
[08:03] <somsip> ok - i'm here anyway
[08:04] <lotuspsychje> we also pretty coffee slaves/idlers ourselfs :p
[09:00] <lotuspsychje> http://news.softpedia.com/news/First-Ubuntu-Touch-Devel-Version-Based-on-Vivid-Is-Out-478430.shtml
[10:07] <lordievader> Good afternoon.
[12:52] <BluesKaj> Hiyas all
[17:55] <ki7mt> Hello All, as some may know, I'm working toward Ubuntu membership. ; I' have updated my Wiki page ( need typo / spelling checks still ) but if you have some spare time, could you take a look. If your familiar with my community activities, feel free to leave a comment. Feedback for improvement would be very much appreciated. Linky: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KI7MT
[18:29] <OerHeks> :-)
[18:39] <ki7mt> Thanks OerHeks .. and yes, that question did throw me off guard a bit :-)
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[00:00] <Jordan_U> discus: I would generally recommend to try to keep a minimal number of primary partitions (which would be none if you weren't using Windows), keeping most things in logical partitions. Having partitions be logical rather than primary generally leaves you more flexability to change things in the future.
[00:00] <discus> Jordan_U: I see
[00:01] <ki7mt> +1 you only get (4) primary .. makes life easy to add different distro's when using extended form the get go.
[00:01] <ki7mt> .. from the get go ..
[00:01] <discus> more flexible as far as resizing them i. the future gies, or?
[00:01] * discus goes
[00:02] <EriC^^> you can make more partitions if you want
[00:02] <Jordan_U> discus: Your limitations with primary partitions is that there can only be 4 of them. Your can use one primary partition "slot" to make an extended partition, which then holds an arbitrary number of logical partitions. Your limitations with logical partitions is that they must be contained within your single extended partition.
[00:02] <tibiasoba> Testing
[00:02] <tibiasoba> Man..
[00:02] <EriC^^> to backup or make a separate /home or ..
[00:02] <tibiasoba> Has anyone tried out irssi?
[00:02] <discus> Eric well I cant since there will be no more disk space left
[00:02] <Jordan_U> tibiasoba: Just ask your actual question. If anyone can help, they will :)
[00:03] <EriC^^> discus: yeah but you can resize and repartition
[00:03] <discus> yeah
[00:03] <discus> ok logical partition it is then
[00:04] <discus> btw why is ubuntu making partition of 4095GB size when I entered 4096? this is for swap
[00:05] <Jordan_U> discus: First, you do not want 4095 or 4096 GB of swap.
[00:05] <discus> MB :)
[00:06] <Jordan_U> !screenshot | discus
[00:07] <discus> I cant take a screenshot because I am booting from ubuntu dvd, but I entered 4096 and it says (4094) in the table. odd
[00:12] <Jordan_U> discus: If you select "try before installing" then you can double click the installer from the desktop, at which point you can use firefox and any other programs while running the installer (which is just another window).
[00:13] <captainpicard> Installed Lubuntu 14.04, but having trouble with Firefox...for most web pages it says unable to connect, as if i dont have an internet connection. But I'm on the machine right now, connected to IRC just fine
[00:15] <captainpicard> www.google.com will load
[00:15] <captainpicard> but not much else
[00:16] <josselin> hello
[00:16] <josselin> is ther anybody french here?
[00:16] <josselin> is there
[00:16] <Jordan_U> !fr | josselin
[00:16] <discus> Jordan: http://oi61.tinypic.com/an0h0i.jpg http://oi61.tinypic.com/3462cfl.jpg
[00:16] <josselin> ok merci
[00:18] <josselin_> hey i have a little password problem
[00:19] <EriC^^> what's the problem?
[00:19] <josselin_> to install softwares
[00:19] <Jordan_U> discus: I don't know what's going on there.
[00:19] <daftykins> you're going to have to be a bit more descriptive than that, josselin_
[00:19] <josselin_> i'm sure to know exactly my password bit ut it's not recognized
[00:19] <josselin_> that worked yesterday
[00:19] <daftykins> caps lock on?
[00:20] <josselin_> yes
[00:20] <josselin_> what are caps
[00:20] <abortretryfail_> capital letters
[00:20] <josselin_> no it's not locked
[00:20] <EriC^^> num lock on?
[00:21] <josselin_> no
[00:21] <discus> 4097 -> 4095, and 4098 -> 4096. it is always off by 2
[00:21] <abortretryfail_> where are you typing the password? login? terminal?
[00:21] <josselin_> terminal and software center
[00:21] <josselin_> and in the archive gestionnaire
[00:21] <abortretryfail_> when you type it in terminal it is invisible
[00:21] <josselin_> yes
[00:22] <abortretryfail_> but i do not know about software center
[00:22] <josselin_> ok
[00:22] <abortretryfail_> in terminal it is supposed to be invisible so nobody can see. you just type the password and press enter.
[00:22] <josselin_> I know
[00:22] <abortretryfail_> ok
[00:22] <josselin_> it's just a bot boring
[00:23] <josselin_> a bit
[00:23] <josselin_> and annoying
[00:23] <abortretryfail_> yes a little
[00:23] <[Saint]> >.>
[00:23] <josselin_> anyboyd can help here?
[00:23] <josselin_> anybody
[00:23] <josselin_> nobody?
[00:24] <EriC^^> we still don't know what's the problem exactly
[00:24] <abortretryfail_> sorry i just got ubuntu a few days ago and i don't know it well
[00:24] <josselin_> ok eric
[00:24] <EriC^^> josselin_: did you login to ubuntu?
[00:24] <EriC^^> using your password
[00:24] <josselin_> yes
[00:24] <daftykins> josselin_: if you can't remember your password, and you insist on spamming this channel instead, then your best bet is to boot into recovery mode and replace your password.
[00:24] <daftykins> !recovery | josselin_ like here...
[00:24] <EriC^^> josselin_: ok, type groups
[00:24] <josselin_> ah no i don't have a passowrd to enter in ubuntu
[00:24] <kostkon> josselin, make sure you are using the correct keyboard layout language the password was written in, eg US, FR? you could reset it if that doesn't work http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/resetpassword
[00:25] <locsmif> I have a problem where I select keyboard layout US intl with dead keys, but every say ~10 minutes, dead keys stop working properly. Is this a known issue?
[00:25] <josselin_> no no i don't have password to come in ubuntu
[00:25] <abortretryfail_> locsmif try looking it up? idk
[00:25] <josselin_> no it's not a problem of keyboard
[00:25] <kostkon> josselin, it's one password for everything. logging in, terminal commands, software centre, etc
[00:25] <josselin_> yes
[00:26] <kostkon> josselin, then reset it and create a new password http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/resetpassword
[00:26] <josselin_> maybe i will try an install with a password
[00:26] <EriC^^> josselin_: you can reset your password
[00:26] <josselin_> thanks eric
[00:27] <josselin_> thanks all
[00:27] <josselin_> good night
[00:27] <kostkon> gn
[00:28] <locsmif> abortretryfail_: the best I could do was an askubuntu thread where OP claims he fixed the issue by switching to Mint ;)
[00:28] <abortretryfail_> ha
[00:28] <abortretryfail_> great fix /s
[00:29] <abortretryfail_> sorry i don't know though
[00:29] <locsmif> Ok say it happened just now.. I press double quote and press space but no double quote
[00:29] <locsmif> -say
[00:29] <locsmif> Normal double quote doesnt work either, nor single quote (as you can see)
[00:30] <locsmif> So its not like I accidentally switched layouts
[00:30] <locsmif> All I need to do is visit the keyboard layout tray icon menu once, and it works again ëäöéè
[00:32] <locsmif> I'm disabling the switch layout shortcuts, see if that helps, even though it doesn't necessarily *look* like this was the cause.
[00:37] <discus> crap.. I installed ubuntu and now nothing happens.. blank screen (but it is on). neither windows nor ubuntu boots, nor do I see dua-boot menu
[00:37] <locsmif> You do see the BIOS displaying, right?
[00:38] <daftykins> !nomodeset | discus try this
[00:39] <discus> locsmif: yes
[00:39] <locsmif> daftykins: he doesn't see the boot manager either
[00:39] <daftykins> there is no boot manager visible on a default install.
[00:39] <discus> (I see BIOS)
[00:39] <locsmif> daftykins: he has it installed alongside Windows
[00:40] <daftykins> locsmif: i know, i can read...
[00:40] <locsmif> So can I
[00:40] <locsmif> No need for hostility..
[00:40] <discus> did a hard reboot, and now I see boot menu
[00:40] <locsmif> Ah..
[00:40] <locsmif> But that's impossible
[00:41] <locsmif> Isn't it?
[00:41] <daftykins> locsmif: it's not hostility, it's someone replying to someone second guessing their every statement late at night XD
[00:41] <daftykins> so please, calm down
[00:41] <locsmif> daftykins: he's seeing a boot menu now..
[00:41] <locsmif> discus: anyways, try nomodeset
[00:41] <daftykins> aaaand still don't need the running commentary thanks :)
[00:42] <locsmif> Ah, I get it, I deserve the abuse. Okay.
[00:43] <DarkAceZ> I guess linux will be able to read ext4 in virtualbox if the host is a windows platform?
[00:43] <EriC^^> DarkAceZ: yeah
[00:44] <DarkAceZ> is there a simpler way to read ext on windows?
[00:44] <EriC^^> wait what, you want to read the actual hard disk?
[00:44] <DarkAceZ> yeah haha
[00:44] <locsmif> DarkAceZ: there are a few tools, but most of them are old
[00:45] <EriC^^> virtualbox won't do that, you'd have to make a raw disk image file and use it
[00:45] <DarkAceZ> I want to move some files from my ext4 external onto my sister's windows
[00:45] <locsmif> DarkAceZ: I used to use ext2ifs on Windows but that doesn't support Ext4, at least not with journaliing
[00:45] <locsmif> DarkAceZ: use a livecd or usb
[00:45] <EriC^^> DarkAceZ: boot a live usb and do it
[00:46] <DarkAceZ> well, I was hoping there was an easier way, but okay
[00:46] <DarkAceZ> thanks
[00:46] <EriC^^> live usb is pretty easy and simple
[00:47] <locsmif> DarkAceZ: http://www.ext2fsd.com/ perhaps
[00:47] <EriC^^> yeah check that out maybe
[00:47] <EriC^^> would be a more permanent solution
[00:48] <locsmif> But it still lacks full journaling support. Could result in data loss, who knows. Use at your own risk.
[00:49] <daftykins> DarkAceZ: given it's a sibling, are your computers not networked? is SCP not an answer?
[00:49] <discus> what boot manager is used by default?
[00:49] <locsmif> Then again, NTFS-3g still isn't ideal either
[00:49] <DarkAceZ> well, I have an NTFS partition on the drive for things like this, but the problem is that I'm out of space on both partitions
[00:49] <EriC^^> discus: grub
[00:50] <DarkAceZ> but I freed up some, and am just copying them to the NTFS for now
[00:50] <EriC^^> yeah just copy to the ext4
[00:50] <EriC^^> ( obviously )
[00:51] <daftykins> DarkAceZ: so, are they networked?
[00:51] <DarkAceZ> no
[00:51] <locsmif> DarkAceZ: so I guess your choices now are: 1. LiveCD/USB 2. Copy to NTFS partition if there's room 3. Networking 4. ext2fsd
[00:51] <DarkAceZ> she doesn't live here
[00:52] <DarkAceZ> I copied to the NTFS, although it wasn't as much as I was planning
[00:52] <locsmif> 5. Quantum Entanglement
[00:52] <discus> am I suppose to edit /etc/default/grub or /boot/grub/grub.cfg?
[00:52] <DarkAceZ> that sounds perfect
[00:52] <daftykins> if they're even on the same network temporarily, a SAMBA share would be good
[00:52] <EriC^^> discus: /etc/default/grub
[00:52] <EriC^^> discus: what are you trying to do though?
[00:52] <abortretryfail_> i need help fixing a flash drive that became RAW. there was nothing on it so i dont need to recover the files. any ideas?
[00:53] <locsmif> what about /etc/grub.d/40_custom ?
[00:53] <locsmif> abortretryfail_: format it?
[00:53] <locsmif> partition it and format it
[00:53] <daftykins> discus: if this is for nomodeset, you're doing it wrong
[00:53] <EriC^^> abortretryfail_: create a new partition table and format
[00:53] <abortretryfail_> it will not partition or format and it cannot be read
[00:53] <discus> Eric I want to change delay and OS that is booted by default
[00:54] <abortretryfail_> thats why i need help
[00:54] <locsmif> abortretryfail_: wow
[00:54] <EriC^^> discus: ok, sudo nano /etc/default/grub
[00:54] <locsmif> can you dd to it?
[00:54] <abortretryfail_> what is dd?
[00:54] <daftykins> abortretryfail_: it's probably game over. give up
[00:54] <EriC^^> discus: change default and timeout
[00:54] <EriC^^> discus: then save and sudo update-grub
[00:55] <abortretryfail_> daftykins: not until i try everything i can. it's my dad's 16gb flash drive
[00:55] <abortretryfail_> he wouldn't be very happy if i killed it
[00:55] <EriC^^> abortretryfail_: i bought one for $13 or so the other day
[00:55] <discus> how can I see a list of boot entries? grub_default's value is an integer
[00:56] <EriC^^> they're really cheap these days
[00:56] <pavlos> abortretryfail_, dmesg should say if it 'sees' the usb stick
[00:56] <EriC^^> discus: grep -A10 menuentry /boot/grub/grub.cfg
[00:57] <abortretryfail_> the computer recognizes it but when i plug it in it tells me i need to format before it can be used. but it wont format and i tried chkdsk (this on windows) but it says the drive is in raw format and chkdsk doesnt work on raw
[00:57] <EriC^^> abortretryfail_: did you try sudo fdisk /dev/sdX
[00:57] <EriC^^> and make a fresh partition table?
[00:57] <harushimo> has anyone installed openstack successfully?
[00:58] <discus> is safety from corrupted config file the reason why we are not editing /boot/grub/grub.cfg directly?
[00:58] <EriC^^> no
[00:58] <abortretryfail_> i will see
[00:58] <EriC^^> cause update-grub uses /etc/default/grub and the files in /etc/grub.d/ to build that grub.cfg file
[00:58] <locsmif> abortretryfail_: sudo dd if=/dev/sdX count=1 2>/dev/null | hd -v (replace X with your device letter)
[00:59] <EriC^^> discus: so you'd lose the changes whenever a new kernel is installed
[00:59] <locsmif> You should see a hexdump of what's currently in the MBR
[00:59] <locsmif> abortretryfail_: it's not write-protected with some kind of jumper, is it?
[00:59] <abortretryfail_> how do i know what drive?
[00:59] <abortretryfail_> oh no it's a normal unprotected drive
[01:00] <daftykins> locsmif: i'm sorry that you thought i was somehow abusing you by the way, i just didn't need copies of messages i already read on screen is all :)
[01:01] <locsmif> daftykins: no worries
[01:01] <daftykins> ^5
[01:01] <daftykins> it's all about the helping :)
[01:01] <locsmif> abortretryfail_: I do this so often I hardly know how to give you that info
[01:01] <abortretryfail_> where do i find the usb drive letter?
[01:02] <EriC^^> abortretryfail_: sudo parted -l
[01:02] <locsmif> ah
[01:02] <abortretryfail_> Error: /dev/sdb: unrecognised disk label
[01:02] <abortretryfail_> Model: Staples Relay UFD (scsi)
[01:02] <abortretryfail_> Disk /dev/sdb: 16.0GB
[01:02] <abortretryfail_> Sector size (logical/physical): 512B/512B
[01:02] <abortretryfail_> Partition Table: unknown
[01:02] <abortretryfail_> Disk Flags:
[01:03] <EriC^^> abortretryfail_: ok, so it's /dev/sdb
[01:03] <locsmif> Whoops
[01:03] <locsmif> He can't talk anymore
[01:03] <EriC^^> i'd blast away the first portion of the disk
[01:03] <locsmif> abortretryfail_: use a pastebin for these sorts of things
[01:03] <locsmif> abortretryfail_: we can't hear you know but you can hear us, so I suggest trying that command
[01:03] <locsmif> you can pm me if you'd like
[01:04] <locsmif> Oh, nevermind, you can talk again :)
[01:04] <abortretryfail_> oops sorry
[01:04] <locsmif> !paste
[01:04] <abortretryfail_> i have never used xchat or irc so sorry lol
[01:04] <daftykins> abortretryfail_: are you 100% it doesn't have a slider on it/button to make it read only?
[01:05] <abortretryfail_> 100% sure. there's nothing on it
[01:06] <kostkon> obligatory factoid then
[01:06] <kostkon> !tab | abortretryfail_
[01:06] <locsmif> http://www.staples.com/Staples-Relay-16GB-USB-20-USB-Flash-Drive-Black/product_860831#desc_content
[01:06] <locsmif> There's his thing
[01:06] <gzcwnk> I need some help with setting up 4 nics on 14.04, when I try and configure the 4th all networks stop working, I cant see why
[01:07] <abortretryfail_> i typed the commend
[01:07] <locsmif> Can you put that into a pastebin somehow?
[01:07] <abortretryfail_> ok
[01:07] <locsmif> !paste abortretryfail_
[01:07] <locsmif> !paste | abortretryfail_
[01:08] <abortretryfail_> http://paste.ubuntu.com/10824716/
[01:08] <locsmif> gzcwnk: no idea, could be so many things. Routing table?
[01:08] <gzcwnk> route -n looks right
[01:08] <locsmif> dmesg output?
[01:08] <daftykins> ip route ? :>
[01:09] <locsmif> abortretryfail_: seems alright and expected
[01:09] <locsmif> Now we should try to write
[01:09] <abortretryfail_> http://paste.ubuntu.com/10824720/
[01:09] <abortretryfail_> dmesg output
[01:09] <gzcwnk> I am specifying the hwaddress other wise the IPs jump to teh wrong nic, works Ok til eth2 for eth3 it then breaks them all
[01:10] <locsmif> abortretryfail_: sudo dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/sdb count=1 (again, make sure sdb is correct, at your own risk)
[01:10] <locsmif> abortretryfail_: ah, the dmesg output was directed @ gzcwnk, but I'll take it ;)
[01:10] <locsmif> [ 5563.901742] sd 6:0:0:0: [sdb] Write Protect is off
[01:11] <abortretryfail_> what does that command do?
[01:11] <locsmif> Well, that's settled
[01:11] <locsmif> abortretryfail_: it writes zeros to the flash drive, first sector
[01:11] <abortretryfail_> oh lol
[01:11] <abortretryfail_> how long does it take?
[01:11] <locsmif> Should take 1s
[01:11] <gzcwnk> is there a way in ubuntu like RH to tell ubuntu which mac address =s ethX ?
[01:11] <abortretryfail_> then it should be done i think it is
[01:12] <locsmif> gzcwnk: used to ifconfig hw ether xx:xx:.. etc. but the MAC addy must be legal
[01:12] <abortretryfail_> 512bytes copied
[01:13] <EriC^^> type sudo fdisk /dev/sdb
[01:13] <EriC^^> abortretryfail_: ^
[01:14] <JuneBUG> someone should create NOOBuntu
[01:14] <gzcwnk> under redhat you have rules.d and specify the mac to ethX in that, ubuntu has no such thing?
[01:14] <locsmif> gzcwnk: no idea quite frankly, but probably, yes
[01:14] <locsmif> gzcwnk: /etc/network/interfaces I would think
[01:14] <gzcwnk> deleting eth3 and the network works again....just weird
[01:15] <abortretryfail_> http://paste.ubuntu.com/10824737/
[01:15] <locsmif> gzcwnk: man interfaces # should tell you how
[01:15] <abortretryfail_> what does that mean?
[01:15] <gzcwnk> I did that and it doesnt work
[01:15] <gzcwnk> when i give a hwaddress for eth3 all networks stop working
[01:15] <EriC^^> abortretryfail_: type "o"
[01:16] <abortretryfail_> Created a new DOS disklabel with disk identifier 0xd838e729.
[01:16] <EriC^^> ok
[01:16] <locsmif> now "n"
[01:16] <abortretryfail_> ok
[01:17] <locsmif> gzcwnk: there should be some message logged somewhere informing you why
[01:17] <gzcwnk> looks like its a debian bug --> http://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/lucid/man5/interfaces.5.html#contenttoc6
[01:17] <locsmif> but it could be a bug.. yes
[01:17] <gzcwnk> bugger
[01:18] <locsmif> gzcwnk: however, what you've just linked is not a bug
[01:18] <locsmif> It's more of less a feature of udev
[01:18] <gzcwnk> KNOWN BUGS/LIMITATIONS - See also Debian bug #101728.
[01:19] <locsmif> Yes, it's *mapped* as a bug
[01:19] <locsmif> And it concerns the random ordering of device names, because you should using unique hw identifiers to identify and configure them, not their *nix device names
[01:19] <gzcwnk> as it says the kernel goes randowm on u
[01:19] <locsmif> It doesn't have to be the cause of your problems, either, but, who knows, it could be.
[01:20] <locsmif> gzcwnk: yes.
[01:20] <locsmif> as expected.
[01:20] <abortretryfail_> i typed "n", now?
[01:20] <locsmif> abortretryfail_: you should get a question
[01:20] <gzcwnk> well redhat has it beat ...
[01:20] <locsmif> or message
[01:20] <abortretryfail_> primary or extended
[01:20] <DarkNightHammer> hello
[01:20] <penos> hi
[01:20] <locsmif> abortretryfail_: primary
[01:20] <abortretryfail_> partition number 1-4
[01:21] <EriC^^> 1
[01:21] <penos> hey guys
[01:21] <gzcwnk> kind of a worry for a cluster if you lose the network...
[01:21] <abortretryfail_> first sector 2048-31266815
[01:21] <EriC^^> hit enter
[01:22] <locsmif> gzcwnk: yeah right https://www.redhat.com/archives/rhelv6-list/2013-February/msg00028.html
[01:22] <abortretryfail_> Last sector, +sectors or +size{K,M,G,T,P} (2048-31266815, default 31266815):
[01:22] <locsmif> abortretryfail_: enter
[01:22] <abortretryfail_> ok it created a partition
[01:22] <abortretryfail_> "linux"
[01:22] <EriC^^> type w
[01:22] <abortretryfail_> ok
[01:23] <abortretryfail_> partition table has been altered
[01:23] <locsmif> shouldn't it be a DOS partition
[01:23] <gzcwnk> in rh you can set the eth0 based on the pci bus position and hwaddress seems to be no issue
[01:23] <EriC^^> yeah what about the type
[01:23] <abortretryfail_> type LInux
[01:23] <locsmif> gzcwnk: this is a nonsensical discussion, you can do the same thing in Ubuntu, and Redhat also uses udev.
[01:23] <EriC^^> abortretryfail_: press t
[01:23] <abortretryfail_> command not found?
[01:24] <locsmif> gzcwnk: unfortunately if you want to use Ubuntu you must learn to use Ubuntu, so read up on the documentation for fixing your ethernet device names
[01:24] <gzcwnk> hmm, my point is there seems to be no work around in ubuntu
[01:24] <gzcwnk> I was asking of there was a commonly known fix
[01:24] <EriC^^> abortretryfail_: type sudo fdisk /dev/sdb again
[01:24] <EriC^^> and press t
[01:25] <gzcwnk> actually i came here for a pointer
[01:25] <EriC^^> abortretryfail_: are you going to make a ntfs or fat partition?
[01:25] <abortretryfail_> fat32
[01:25] <abortretryfail_> default
[01:25] <EriC^^> ok
[01:26] <locsmif> gzcwnk: http://www.debianhelp.co.uk/udev.htm for starters
[01:26] <abortretryfail_> selected partition 1
[01:26] <abortretryfail_> hex code
[01:26] <locsmif> b
[01:26] <EriC^^> 07
[01:26] <locsmif> hmm
[01:26] <locsmif> NTFS?
[01:26] <locsmif> ok
[01:26] <EriC^^> ah ok
[01:27] <EriC^^> b
[01:27] <EriC^^> abortretryfail_: go with b
[01:27] <abortretryfail_> changed type of partition Linux to W95 FAT32
[01:27] <EriC^^> ok type w
[01:27] <abortretryfail_> ok
[01:28] <locsmif> gzcwnk: http://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/hardy/man7/udev.7.html
[01:28] <OerHeks> gzcwnk, for VMS, also aplies to normal install http://chris.dziemborowicz.com/blog/2010/07/25/fix-missing-eth0-when-cloning-ubuntu-vmware-virtual-machines/
[01:28] <locsmif> also that
[01:28] <EriC^^> type sudo mkfs.fat /dev/sdb1
[01:28] <abortretryfail_> has it been formatted to fat32?
[01:28] <EriC^^> not yet
[01:28] <OerHeks> remove /etc/udev/rules.d/70-persistent-net.rules and reboot
[01:28] <locsmif> it will after EriC^^ 's command
[01:29] <abortretryfail_> oh ok
[01:29] <abortretryfail_> ok now i have a usb icon on the side bar
[01:29] <locsmif> yay =)
[01:30] <abortretryfail_> :D
[01:30] * locsmif high-fives EriC^^
[01:30] <abortretryfail_> did it work?
[01:30] * EriC^^ high-fives locsmif
[01:30] <locsmif> It appears so
[01:30] <abortretryfail_> yay!
[01:30] <abortretryfail_> thanks so much
[01:31] <locsmif> You're welcome, but remember if the device itself is a bit shaky then it may fail yet
[01:31] <locsmif> You want to do some testing with it
[01:31] <locsmif> Copy things back and forth
[01:31] <locsmif> Perhaps use sha1sum on the file copied (a large file, like an ISO, for example)
[01:31] <abortretryfail_> no i think it failed because i formatted it too many times when trying to install an operating system on my new build pc
[01:32] <locsmif> abortretryfail_: another fine way of testing would be to toss into the fire and see if there any glowing inscriptions in elvish on it
[01:32] <EriC^^> lol
[01:32] <EriC^^> O.o
[01:32] <locsmif> If so, hide it and leave the Shire
[01:32] <DarkNightHammer> topic
[01:33] <locsmif> You're right. We must not utter that language here.
[01:33] <abortretryfail_> sorry i accidentally moved the ethernet cable
[01:34] <abortretryfail_> lol
[01:35] <locsmif> abortretryfail_: you should look into USB 3.0 usb sticks, too
[01:35] <EriC^^> the one i got was 3.0
[01:35] <locsmif> Me too
[01:35] <EriC^^> it was like $13 or something, i couldn't resist
[01:35] <abortretryfail_> i have no 3.0 on my motherboard
[01:35] <locsmif> But maybe others will, and it's backward compatible
[01:36] <abortretryfail_> i know i only have 1 usb stick, 4gb, this one was my dad's so it was important to fix it
[01:36] <locsmif> Back to my question, btw, it appears I can fix my dead key problem by pressing alt-shift if it happens. But, I have shortcut switches disabled
[01:36] <locsmif> abortretryfail_: well, it appears to be now
[01:36] <abortretryfail_> yeah
[01:36] <locsmif> Any ideas about the dead keys thing?
[01:37] <abortretryfail_> woo! my windows 7 laptop detects it and it works
[01:37] <abortretryfail_> brought back from the dead
[01:37] <daftykins> you were using diskmgmt.msc in Windows i take it?
[01:38] <daftykins> to try and make use of it
[01:38] <locsmif> So the initial failure to work was when you tried to get it to work in Windows?
[01:38] <locsmif> yeah
[01:38] <EriC^^> i made a fat32 the other day in ubuntu, and put music on it and the car's player wouldn't recognize it, i had to format in windows to get it to work
[01:38] <EriC^^> abortretryfail_: dont mean to rain or your parade, i was just curious if somebody knew what i did wrong
[01:38] <abortretryfail_> no i wasn't using diskmgmt
[01:38] <locsmif> EriC^^: boot sector is slightly different
[01:38] <abortretryfail_> i didn't know of that
[01:38] <daftykins> ah
[01:38] <daftykins> there y'go :D
[01:39] <abortretryfail_> yeah it's ok lol my problem is solved (for now)
[01:39] <abortretryfail_> everyone else, go on
[01:39] <daftykins> i made an exFAT in Windows 7 that a mac couldn't mount a bit ago, turns out macs can't handle >1,024KB block size
[01:39] <abortretryfail_> lol
[01:39] <locsmif> EriC^^: also the File Allocation Table may have had a different cluster size, who knows.
[01:39] <dfgh> HDMI AUDIO NO WORK WHAT DO!?!?!?
[01:39] <locsmif> abortretryfail_: hey, you're allowed to enjoy this a bit
[01:39] <locsmif> dfgh: WHO KNOWS
[01:40] <xangua> !caps | dfgh
[01:40] <EriC^^> locsmif: i see
[01:40] <dfgh> help please
[01:40] <dfgh> HDMI AUDIO no work
[01:40] <EriC^^> dfgh: go to settings > sound and click on the hmdi output
[01:40] <dfgh> 14.04
[01:40] <EriC^^> *hdmi
[01:40] <locsmif> EriC^^: back in the good old days I used Norton Diskedit to fix FAT problems by hand
[01:40] <dfgh> there are no
[01:41] <EriC^^> locsmif: cool
[01:41] <dfgh> no in settings
[01:41] <abortretryfail_> to think that a few days ago i thought "meh, i'm just going to install ubuntu until i can get windows to work"
[01:41] <EriC^^> dfgh: sound?
[01:41] <abortretryfail_> i'm keeping it
[01:41] <locsmif> EriC^^: if you really want to get to the bottom of it, you should try formatting it in Linux again, then take a snapshot of a Windows formatted boot sector and see if you can change the id string
[01:41] <dfgh> there are only integraten
[01:41] <locsmif> Not much use for practical purposes, only diagnostic.
[01:42] <dfgh> and no HDMI
[01:42] <dfgh> Only integrated audio in list
[01:42] <dfgh> What do?
[01:43] <melluk> dfgh: You using unity
[01:43] <dfgh> Ubuntu defoult
[01:43] <dfgh> yes
[01:43] <EriC^^> locsmif: windows just formatted it right?
[01:43] <abortretryfail_> how do i save a terminal session log? i want to know what i typed to fix the flash drive if it happens again
[01:43] <dfgh> So what do?
[01:43] <macibookg3> I have found that holding down the option key, when starting up you MacBook Pro. then longing on to your wifi and doing a Internet recovery will let you install Mac OS X... to a USB drive. So if you have installed Linux on your internal drive. You will be able to to boot and run both but one at a time
[01:43] <dfgh> Why so many bugs in Ubuntu?
[01:43] <EriC^^> it wouldn't change the partition type and whatnot right? locsmif
[01:44] <melluk> dfgh: in terminal type alsa-mixer
[01:44] <dfgh> no found
[01:44] <EriC^^> locsmif: i just remembered i think i used msftdata as the partition type, maybe i should have used w95 fat, cause the error was format error or something
[01:45] <dfgh> u mean alsamixer?
[01:45] <EriC^^> locsmif: in windows i just right clicked and selected quick format in fat32
[01:45] <melluk> dfgh: yeah
[01:45] <locsmif> EriC^^: ah!
[01:45] <dfgh> there 2 but HDMI have no colonns
[01:46] <melluk> dfgh: unmute hdmi
[01:47] <dfgh> here no unmute
[01:47] <melluk> dfgh: does hdmi have 0 or m in the box.
[01:48] <dfgh> 00
[01:48] <dfgh> green
[01:48] <dfgh> but no have level
[01:49] <melluk> dfgh: it won't.
[01:49] <daftykins> sounds to me like proprietary graphics without the driver installed to make use of HDMI audio?
[01:49] <dfgh> what?
[01:49] <melluk> dfgh: apt-get install pavucontrol
[01:49] <daftykins> macibookg3: that's not a given across all models, no
[01:49] <dfgh> i installed
[01:50] <dfgh> there are HDMI yes
[01:50] <dfgh> but audio no work
[01:50] <melluk> dfgh: in pavucontro did you make hdmi default fall back
[01:51] <dfgh> how?
[01:51] <melluk> dfgh: run pavucontrol
[01:51] <dfgh> yes
[01:51] <dfgh> gui i see
[01:51] <dfgh> i changed to HDMI
[01:52] <dfgh> but i not lissen audio
[01:52] <melluk> dfgh: to the right of hdmi their is a box that sets fall back
[01:53] <dfgh> yes
[01:53] <dfgh> green button
[01:53] <dfgh> changed
[01:53] <dfgh> i no lissen
[01:53] <melluk> dfgh: http://freedesktop.org/software/pulseaudio/pavucontrol//screenshot.png
[01:54] <dfgh> what?
[01:54] <dfgh> i have 2
[01:54] <melluk> dfgh: are all volumes raised
[01:55] <dfgh> here orange level line dynamic work
[01:55] <dfgh> but i not lissen it
[01:55] <melluk> dfgh: on the output tab is hdmi set
[01:56] <dfgh> yes
[01:56] <abortretryfail_> wow, windows 7 uses nearly 3GB RAM at idle while ubuntu uses half a GB
[01:56] <dfgh> green button pushed
[01:56] <daftykins> abortretryfail_: no, memory usage is all rubbish due to cache
[01:56] <daftykins> abortretryfail_: also, this is a channel for support only - you can chat in #ubuntu-offtopic though
[01:56] <abortretryfail_> ok
[01:57] <melluk> dfgh: http://jan.newmarch.name/LinuxSound/Sampled/PulseAudio/images/pavucontrol.png
[01:57] <dfgh> u pushed integrated
[01:57] <abortretryfail_> i have to go so bye and thanks for the help
[01:58] <dfgh> i no see in unity HDMI
[01:59] <dfgh> what do?
[01:59] <melluk> dfgh: are you using dvi/hdmi adapter.
[01:59] <dfgh> all work in windows
[02:00] <dfgh> nvidia i use nvidi a+ smarttv
[02:00] <dfgh> just bug in ubuntu
[02:00] <dfgh> bye then thx u
[02:01] <daftykins> err
[02:01] <[Saint]> That was abrupt.
[02:01] <daftykins> yeah i'd have asked what driver was in use for said graphics card
[02:02] <melluk> dfgh: their are tricks using APLAY in terminal but you need to experiment
[02:02] <daftykins> user left, melluk
[02:02] <[Saint]> And gotten "the driver for gfx the smart tv of nvidia" as a response, probably.
[02:03] <[Saint]> ie. masochism.
[02:03] <[Saint]> "is ubuntu fault"
[02:03] <discus> can I set grub up to display boot menu on the second monitor, not the default one?
[02:04] <daftykins> only with an unnecessary amount of work, probably - discus
[02:04] <daftykins> or swap your displays over :P
[02:04] <discus> my tv connects to hdmi, monitor to dvi.. and boot screen/bios are only displayed on the tv, and I see no way of changing that in the bios
[02:05] <daftykins> there won't be anything in the BIOS, no
[02:05] <macibookg3> I have found that holding down the option key, when starting up you MacBook Pro. then longing on to your wifi and doing a Internet recovery will let you install Mac OS X... to a USB drive. So if you have installed Linux on your internal drive. You will be able to to boot and run both but one at a time. before you start the install you have to open Disk utility and make sure the USB drive is formated to HFS+ journalized
[02:06] <[Saint]> errr, macibookg3?
[02:06] <[Saint]> c/p snafu?
[02:06] <daftykins> macibookg3: that's more of a statement than a support question - also, you can install both at once on the internal hard disk too.
[02:06] <daftykins> or SSD.
[02:07] <macibookg3> this is just FYI
[02:07] <macibookg3> for those that do not know
[02:07] <daftykins> macibookg3: there's no point sharing that information here
[02:07] <[Saint]> unless someone happened to ask for it.
[02:09] <macibookg3> ok now I know
[02:11] <broma0> Quick way to wipe a disk? (All partitions/everyrhing regardless of gpt or mbr)
[02:12] <daftykins> dd zero fill
[02:12] <daftykins> not quick though
[02:12] <daftykins> ;)
[02:12] <daftykins> possibly a secure erase, but those aren't guaranteed
[02:12] <locsmif> you can tune dd's block size to be faster
[02:12] <broma0> I don't need secure, i just want to see 320 gb of "free space" :)
[02:13] <locsmif> 10M seems to be a good block size iirc
[02:13] <locsmif> sudo dd if=/dev/zero bs=10M of=/dev/sdX
[02:13] <daftykins> broma0: what? in that case just dd zero the first 100MB
[02:14] <daftykins> i thought you wanted to pass the disk on or something
[02:14] <broma0> daftykins: I'm reinstalling a distro from scratch
[02:14] <daftykins> yeah first 100MB then
[02:15] <locsmif> sudo dd if=/dev/zero bs=10M of=/dev/sdX count=10
[02:15] <locsmif> replace the X of course.
[02:15] <broma0> locsmif: perfecto
[02:16] <broma0> Thanks!
[02:16] <locsmif> You're welcome
[02:16] <locsmif> and daftykins
[02:16] <daftykins> \o/
[02:16] <daftykins> !cookie | you two
[02:16] <locsmif> heh :)
[02:17] <[Saint]> If you want a GUI for such things in future, one can't go wrong with gparted.
[02:17] <[Saint]> pick the disk, remove the partitions, confirm, done.
[02:18] <daftykins> not sure that removes all remnants of GPT/MBR though?
[02:18] <[Saint]> though, it isn't any safer than dd if you're not 100% about which disk is which.
[02:18] <[Saint]> daftykins: it should.
[02:19] <locsmif> I've had issues with Ubuntu picking up on partition remnants on my USB sticks without zeroing out
[02:19] <[Saint]> and you can write a new table if you wanted.
[02:19] <locsmif> No idea how that happened precisely, but it did, until I went in and truly erased the partition/boot sector remnants
[02:20] <locsmif> Admittedly, I was tinkering about with a multiboot USB
[02:20] <[Saint]> I've only had that happen on obviously fake storage volumes with hacked up capacity.
[02:20] <[Saint]> But, I understand it can happen in certain circumstances.
[02:21] <locsmif> I do get nervous about dd and typos when pasting example oneliners
[02:21] <[Saint]> Oh noes! My X drive!
[02:21] <locsmif> ha ha
[02:22] <locsmif> It's where I store my X-files
[02:22] <daftykins> i really need to learn how to alias most of my advice so i don't type it every time
[02:22] <[Saint]> <slow clap>
[02:25] <EriC^^> daftykins: last week people were literally asking at the same time about making live usb's so i thought i'd make a page about using dd, but i kind of disregarded it or something
[02:26] <EriC^^> http://explosive.bshellz.net/dd/
[02:26] <daftykins> :D
[02:26] <EriC^^> there's a non-music version
[02:26] <EriC^^> i mean i made the page but i didn't finish it
[02:27] * daftykins taps a finger to the tune
[02:27] <EriC^^> abandened the idea
[02:27] <EriC^^> lol
[02:27] <daftykins> magic :D
[02:27] <daftykins> now we just need helpees who'll read... ;)
[02:28] <EriC^^> yeah :P
[02:31] <daftykins> EriC^^: obviously not relevant to a short image copy, but kill -USR1 $PID_of_dd prints progress \o/
[02:31] <EriC^^> yeah
[02:44] <kageneko> hello world
[02:44] <gzcwnk> bugger what ever i do I cant get more than 3 nics going :(
[02:45] <kageneko> Oh wow i'm actually connected. First time on IRC!
[02:45] <gzcwnk> telnet?
[02:47] <kageneko> irssi
[02:47] <gzcwnk> whimp :P
[02:47] <daftykins> off topic and childish to speak to someone like that about their client
[02:48] <gzcwnk> so you have no sense of humour...
[02:48] <daftykins> if you think that's funny, you need to try some real comedy :)
[02:49] <kageneko> actually i'm intrigued. Why is irssi considered "whimp"?
[02:50] <kageneko> Is there another client other people use? I'm new to IRC in general
[02:50] <daftykins> i believe it was an attempt at a joke based on elitism
[02:50] <Khew> I don't think it is, just compared to telnet maybe
[02:51] <kageneko> don't know what telnet is
[02:51] <xangua> !ot
[02:51] <gzcwnk> no....just use what you want.....such wars over bitchx etc was 15+ years ago
[02:51] <Bashing-om> kageneko: I have been around a bit ... and irssi is also my client of choice.
[02:51] <daftykins> aaaaaand back to topic we go :)
[02:53] <`hypermist`> EriC^^, what was the grep search thing ?
[02:54] <gzcwnk> anyone tried to add 4 or more NICS to a ubuntu box?
[02:54] <`hypermist`> or can someone tell me how to do a search via grep
[02:54] <gzcwnk> uh grep <whattolookfor> *
[02:55] <Khew> gzcwnk: never tried 4 but I have done more than one. I was tunneling the connection to a computer next to it.
[02:55] <gzcwnk> im ok to 3 then teh 4th makes eth0 die with no IP
[02:56] <gzcwnk> having no joy trying to sret in udev
[02:56] <gzcwnk> set
[02:56] <Khew> are they separate cards?
[02:56] <gzcwnk> no, virtuual nics
[02:57] <daftykins> aaah so it's a VM?
[02:57] <Khew> oh!
[02:57] <gzcwnk> yes
[02:57] <daftykins> often handy to be told that from the beginning (:
[02:57] <gzcwnk> 2 vms to build a cluster
[02:57] <gzcwnk> why would taht matter?
[02:58] <Khew> well I was going to ask if you were sure all the drivers were in order and that the hardware was tested
[02:59] <Khew> but there are lots of different types of network cards you can emulate, are you using something like virtual box?
[02:59] <gzcwnk> ah, ok....yes, though this is a trial run for a real t5500 i am about to buy, ithas a quad card in it
[03:00] <gzcwnk> VMWare's ESXi
[03:01] <Khew> unfortunately my experience runs out pretty quick, I would just poke around the logs if no one has other suggestions
[03:03] <gzcwnk> tried that and googling
[03:04] <gzcwnk> tried writing my own net persistant rules in udev no difference
[03:23] <TyrfingMjolnir> Is there a repo still open holding 6.06?
[03:23] <TyrfingMjolnir> Ubuntu 6.06.2 LTS \n \l
[03:23] <daftykins> doubt it
[03:23] <daftykins> why on earth? :)
[03:23] <TyrfingMjolnir> Need openipmi
[03:25] <zorbs0ne> anyone have issues with their mouse pointer 'mirroring' a reflection of itself?
[03:25] <jason_> are you holding it upside down?
[03:26] <zorbs0ne> jason_: ?
[03:28] <jason_> semi joking. I'm not sure I understand what you mean by mirroring a reflection of itself.
[03:29] <pavlos> TyrfingMjolnir, http://old-releases.ubuntu.com/releases/
[03:29] <TyrfingMjolnir> I know the CDs
[03:29] <zorbs0ne> jason_: :), well randomly my mouse pointer, will replicate itself into two separate mice pointers.
[03:29] <TyrfingMjolnir> pavlos: Is there a pool on there too?
[03:30] <pavlos> TyrfingMjolnir, what do you mean?
[03:30] <jason_> zorbs0ne, so you literally have two pointers? for how long?
[03:30] <TyrfingMjolnir> Ideally I'd just change my sources list
[03:30] <Bashing-om> TyrfingMjolnir: http://old-releases.ubuntu.com/releases/ . The .iso is avalable there .
[03:30] <zorbs0ne> no, just one, the left one does the clicking, the right is like a symbiotic creature.
[03:31] <zorbs0ne> i have to log out to get back to the 'one' pointer.
[03:31] <daftykins> z0rdoes it clear if you switch to a TTY then back?
[03:31] <zorbs0ne> or sometimes it will revert back.
[03:32] <zorbs0ne> daftykins: I'll try that next time it happens?
[03:32] <daftykins> sounds good
[03:32] <daftykins> probably won't matter, but worth a go
[03:33] <[n0mad]> does having 2 pointers make it twice as likely to click the correct thing?
[03:34] <zorbs0ne> [n0mad]: you should try and click on something after tippin' a few back and behind a pair of specs.
[03:57] <conner_> Anyone available to help me figure out a CDROM failure problem?
[04:08] <Sir_Leto> Anyone familiar with compiz-fusion? I haven't used since the 8th grade. I started it up and now all my panels are gone
[04:10] <xangua> Sir_Leto: sounds like you disabled the unity plugin
[04:11] <xangua> "started it" how¿
[04:11] <Sir_Leto> compiz-fusion --rplace
[04:11] <Sir_Leto> that broke even more thins enabling it again
[04:12] <Sir_Leto> *things
[04:12] <Sir_Leto> I'm not even sure what DE I'm using right now
[04:13] <xangua> Sir_Leto: If you were using Ubuntu default, you were already using compiz
[04:13] <Sir_Leto> I've installed a few DE's
[04:13] <ianorlin> why not restart lightdm and try to login to another one
[04:14] <Sir_Leto> I can't seem to type in the terminal now
[04:14] <ianorlin> !tty | Sir_Leto
[04:15] <Sir_Leto> I thanks
[04:19] <Sir_Leto> I restarted lightdm and that didn't help, and I can no longer get into tty
[04:19] <Sir_Leto> I might just manually power off
[04:22] <Sir_Leto> it's been 6 or 7 years since I've messed with this at all..
[04:36] <wodrow> hello everybabby
[04:41] <AirStar> i use ubuntu, i type command like this : apt-get install tree, but command don’t work? how can i do?
[04:43] <somsip> AirStar: type 'sudo' in front of it
[04:44] <AirStar> why? give me the reason? somsip
[04:44] <somsip> AirStar: because apt-get requires superuser rights
[04:44] <AirStar> oh great. thanks somsip
[04:44] <AirStar> :)
[04:58] <lotuspsychje> good morning to all
[04:58] <ablest1980> gm
[04:59] <lotuspsychje> ablest1980: hello mate
[04:59] <ablest1980> hello
[05:00] <ablest1980> morning there?
[05:01] <grouchof> I have a built in wacom tablet, and whenever I rest my hand on it, unity-settings-daemon makes a connect/disconnect sounds and it's driving me crazy. How do I mute it?
[05:02] <henrique_> hi mother fuckers
[05:02] <lotuspsychje> !language | henrique_
[05:03] <henrique_> brasileiros ?
[05:03] <lotuspsychje> !br | henrique_
[05:03] <angel> ???
[05:03] <lotuspsychje> angel: can we help you?
[05:05] <psyanide> anyone have experience loading ubu on a imac g3
[05:05] <lotuspsychje> !mac | psyanide
[05:06] <psyanide> thx you
[05:09] <AirStar> i want install ‘vim’, then how can i do?
[05:09] <AirStar> vim or vim-gnome or vim-tiny?????
[05:09] <lotuspsychje> AirStar: sudo apt-get install vim
[05:09] <AirStar> only vim?
[05:09] <AirStar> thanks
[05:10] <lotuspsychje> !info vim | AirStar
[05:10] <AirStar> thanks lotuspsychje
[05:10] <AirStar> :)
[05:10] <lotuspsychje> np
[05:13] <Zorkorist> un/un/unbuntu
[05:59] <PHPLearner> hi
[05:59] <PHPLearner> Anyone here using Phalcon framework
[05:59] <PHPLearner> I have some problems here
[05:59] <PHPLearner> I just to do not know how to solve
[06:00] <PHPLearner> I can not delete files from my NetBeans IDE
[06:00] <DWTaylor> hi
[06:00] <PHPLearner> especially the cache files create by volt
[06:00] <PHPLearner> anyone have an idea here
[06:00] <PHPLearner> as this is also a ubuntu related problem
[06:01] <PHPLearner> I am not sure whether it is related to permissions or what related to the NetBeans IDE
[06:15] <teknotus> I'm trying to build a kernel package for a ppa and guides of what I need to do reference files that don't exist, and have no explanation of how to make those files.
[06:16] <Jamie_> shit... I think i may have screwed over my os
[06:16] <teknotus> I can build a package that will install locally, but it doesn't include a changed abiname, and there is no .changes file.
[06:17] <teknotus> Jamie_: What happened?
[06:18] <Jamie_> teknotus: I went to upgrade to 15.04 and when it got to do you want to remove packages i used the details to check them then went to hit enter so that it would go back to the options and only the command line poped up and it says i am on 15.04 but there was no restart no nothing
[06:19] <Jamie_> Im just about sure the update did not complete
[06:20] <Jamie_> teknotus: any sugestions
[06:21] <teknotus> Jamie_: open a package manager, and see what the current state of things is. There might be a bunch of stuff queued to happen.
[06:21] <teknotus> Jamie_: in which case maybe you can apply it.
[06:23] <Jamie_> teknotus: is there a way to do that with apt-get
[06:23] <hel0hel0> anyone know how to get ubuntu to install a 32bit os even if it's on an an amd64 cpu?
[06:23] <hel0hel0> i know the kernels run
[06:24] <hel0hel0> just don't know how to do an install that forces it
[06:24] <chaos_lly> just do it
[06:25] <Jamie_> teknotus: i cant even lauch muon discover
[06:26] <teknotus> Jamie_: You could try do-release-upgrade
[06:27] <teknotus> Jamie_: Look at logs for apt
[06:27] <teknotus> I use aptitude from the command line, but there is a learning curve for that.
[06:28] <hel0hel0> do-release-upgrade —force 32 or something?
[06:28] <hash4days> is aptitude better?
[06:28] <hel0hel0> that would actually be amaze
[06:28] <joey_> anybody know where i can get example code for libgnome-speech-dev or how to docs
[06:28] <hel0hel0> would be a goddamn miracle if it worked
[06:29] <Jamie_> teknotus: well i ran apt-get ugrade then update... and it went through sevearl
[06:29] <teknotus> hash4days: it is interactive.
[06:30] <Jamie_> i should have had to restart after a release change
[06:30] <Jamie_> teknotus: there are none in synaptic that are pending or need to be installed
[06:31] <teknotus> hash4days: I can figure out exactly all the changes I want, and manually fix dependency issues if the automatic solver decides to do something stupid.
[06:32] <teknotus> Jamie_: there is certainly a new kernel for 15.04, and the change to systemd from upstart can't happen without a reboot.
[06:32] <Jamie_> I know that
[06:32] <Jamie_> that is why im am kinda scared shitless
[06:32] <AirStar> i can install ‘homebrew’ on Ubuntu?
[06:33] <teknotus> Jamie_: Do you have a boot USB stick, or something as a backup plan?
[06:33] <Jamie_> ummm.... not that will hold all of what is on my computer
[06:33] <jzp113> hi I have a problem why the ubuntu can't auto link 802.1x when I open the computer
[06:33] <Jamie_> I have a total of i think 30 on seperate online save places
[06:34] <Jamie_> teknotus: Is there a way to change to a differnt version... like i can downgrade back to 14.10 then try again
[06:34] <teknotus> Jamie_: Even if your system is hoses unless you repartitioned, or deleted a filesystem all of your home directory should be intact.
[06:35] <Jamie_> well i dont exactly have a standard ubuntu
[06:35] <teknotus> Jamie_: Unfortunately I have never seen an OS updater that can go backwards well.
[06:35] <AirStar> i can install ‘homebrew’ on Ubuntu? i want install python to ‘/usr/local’ directory.
[06:35] <Jamie_> teknotus: so there is no way to downgrade.... :\
[06:36] <teknotus> Jamie_: You could debootstrap into a chroot, and then overwrite files.
[06:36] <Jamie_> teknotus: this may be really bad for me... I work from this computer... I would have to regather all of my stuff for firefox os building
[06:36] <Jamie_> teknotus: how would i do that
[06:37] <somsip> Jamie_: no, you can't downgrade.
[06:38] <somsip> AirStar: use virtualenv
[06:38] <donniezazen> software updates is stuck on Running post-installation trigger update-notification-common
[06:38] <donniezazen> 24%
[06:38] <Jamie_> well this is really not my day
[06:38] <teknotus> I haven't tried to do a downgrade that way. Theoretically possible, but never tried.
[06:38] <AirStar> somsip: i want use ‘homebrew’.
[06:38] <somsip> donniezazen: leave it as long as you can, kill it if you need to (sudo kill the dpkg process in ps aux) and be prepared to have to --force something when you next use apt-get
[06:38] <Jamie_> teknotus: is there a way to redo and upgrade... aka trick the computer into doing another one
[06:39] <somsip> AirStar: sorry, I can't help with whining
[06:39] <donniezazen> somsip: sure. thanks.
[06:40] <somsip> Jamie_: summarise the issue for me again?
[06:40] <AirStar> somsip: homebrew is not installed to Ubuntu?
[06:40] <somsip> AirStar: no
[06:41] <teknotus> AirStar: there is a linuxbrew fork of homebrew
[06:41] <AirStar> oh
[06:41] <AirStar> then i can install python like ‘brew install py thon3’?
[06:41] <AirStar> teknotus:
[06:42] <hiexpo> AirStar, https://github.com/Homebrew/linuxbrew
[06:42] <AirStar> good
[06:42] <AirStar> thanks
[06:42] <AirStar> hiexpo:
[06:42] <Jamie_> somsip: I went to upgrade from 14.10 to 15.04... it was going through.. when through quite a bit of it... but when it got to remove packages i wanted to see which ones it was remove to check for some things, hit the d for details hit enter to get back to the yes or no options to select yes... but it just went to command line... I know that the computer if the ugrade was complete should have needed a reboot but there was none
[06:42] <Jamie_> and the computer is registering as 15.04
[06:43] <somsip> Jamie_: 15.04 is not released yet and support is in #ubuntu+1 Downgrading is generally felt to be impossible (or horribly tricky at best) so a fresh install might be the way to go
[06:44] <Jamie_> somsip: well is there a way to trick a computer into doing another upgrade by any chance
[06:44] <teknotus> Jamie_: Maybe sudo apt-get install –reinstall ubuntu-desktop
[06:45] <Jamie_> somsip: will try
[06:45] <teknotus> Jamie_: sudo apt-cache depends ubuntu-desktop | awk -F ":" '{print $2}' | \
[06:45] <teknotus> sed '/^$/d' | xargs sudo apt-get \
[06:45] <teknotus> install --reinstall --install-recommends --yes
[06:45] <somsip> Jamie_: try the man page for the command you ran (presumably do-release-upgrade) but #ubuntu+1 is the place to ask about 15.04
[06:45] <Jamie_> okay thanks
[06:46] <TyrfingMjolnir> How do I write the following in fstab? sudo mount -o loop /home/user/disk.iso /mnt/mount_point
[06:46] <teknotus> Oh I think you have to do an apt-cache update or it won't do anything
[06:47] <teknotus> Jamie_: Just like apt-get
[06:47] <dearhawk> hi noobs and tards. The Software Updater is stuck, nothing is happening. And I can't click the cancel buttun :(
[06:47] <somsip> teknotus: echo {line} | sudo tee /etc/fstab (but test it on a different file first to make sure it does not override the contents, or backup fstab before you do it)
[06:47] <robotdevil> how do I isntall to lappy without working cd rom and no usb boot
[06:48] <robotdevil> install*
[06:48] <TyrfingMjolnir> dearhawk: Are you using Unity or GNOME or something like that?
[06:48] <dearhawk> TyrfingMjolnir: xfce4
[06:48] <TyrfingMjolnir> robotdevil: debootstrap
[06:48] <robotdevil> oh right
[06:48] <TyrfingMjolnir> dearhawk: I'm just a ssh user
[06:48] <dearhawk> TyrfingMjolnir: is your updating messing too?
[06:49] <TyrfingMjolnir> No
[06:50] <robotdevil> average user, what is this about using unetbootin to hdd for same question ^^
[06:51] <Jamie_> somsip: thats for the idea for the apt-cache... but it didnt work... im gonna set up a usb drive and then try to restart
[06:52] <somsip> Jamie_: I think teknotus made that suggestion
[06:52] <nishantjr> Hi, I'd like my own application to handle the volume and mute keys, but it looks like unity is grabbing the mute key (but not volume). Is there a way I can disable it from capturing mute?
[06:52] <nishantjr> (14.04)
[06:53] <Jamie_> somsip: sorry
[06:53] <robotdevil> TyrfingMjolnir: that is running it under a different host though right
[06:53] <Jamie_> teknotus: thanks for the suggestion... didnt work... but im just gonna make a backup flash drive for incase it wont restart
[06:53] <robotdevil> debootstrap
[06:53] <monojin> did the kernel update the other day solve hdmi issues for other people?
[07:01] <PCatinean> Hey guys, how do I make my synclient changes stick?
[07:03] <TyrfingMjolnir> robotdevil: rebootstrap can run on any folder
[07:04] <TyrfingMjolnir> The outcome is less confusing if you run this at the root level of a device however
[07:05] <robotdevil> TyrfingMjolnir: the desired outcome is to have ubuntu installed natively without a cdrom or usb boot. Is this stil correct?
[07:06] <robotdevil> im not sure there is a working os on box
[07:07] <TyrfingMjolnir> Do you have any linux at all right now?
[07:07] <robotdevil> yeah
[07:07] <robotdevil> different machine
[07:07] <TyrfingMjolnir> with debian based system?
[07:07] <robotdevil> ubuntu
[07:08] <TyrfingMjolnir> Good
[07:08] <TyrfingMjolnir> Is the drive physically available?
[07:08] <TyrfingMjolnir> The one from the machine with no USB or CDROM?
[07:08] <robotdevil> not right now but could you continue with explaination. I can follow what your laying down
[07:08] <TyrfingMjolnir> Can you physically mount the drive from the machine with no USB or CDROM in the machine that currently has ubuntu running?
[07:09] <TyrfingMjolnir> man debootstrap in the terminal
[07:09] <robotdevil> well I would be able to attach to the desktop tower
[07:10] <TyrfingMjolnir> Here is the process
[07:10] <TyrfingMjolnir> https://wiki.debian.org/Debootstrap
[07:10] <robotdevil> just been a long time since I ve reviewed any of this
[07:11] <TyrfingMjolnir> The only thing you would have to do some research on is this: debootstrap --arch i386 sid $MY_CHROOT http://http.debian.net/debian/
[07:11] <robotdevil> but thats not using a host os all the time after install right
[07:11] <TyrfingMjolnir> There is some writing here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebootstrapChroot
[07:12] <TyrfingMjolnir> robotdevil: What do you mean?
[07:12] <robotdevil> yeah I ve used chroot on a debian install years ago and gentoo I think
[07:12] <TyrfingMjolnir> This is what I would do
[07:12] <robotdevil> but FOREVER AGO
[07:12] <TyrfingMjolnir> 1) Mount the drive from the machine with no USB or CDROM in the machine that is already working
[07:13] <TyrfingMjolnir> 2) format the drive, you will find the volume name in: dmesg | grep sd
[07:14] <TyrfingMjolnir> 3) fdisk /dev/sdX
[07:14] <robotdevil> still folowing
[07:14] <TyrfingMjolnir> 4) mkfs.ext3 /dev/sdX3 or whichever partition you want to be your root, and others if partitioned separately
[07:15] <TyrfingMjolnir> Then follow the procedure: https://wiki.debian.org/Debootstrap ( Full process to create a complete Debian ) yet adopted using a source from here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebootstrapChroot
[07:15] <TyrfingMjolnir> 5) ^
[07:16] <TyrfingMjolnir> Remember to choose the correct arch
[07:16] <TyrfingMjolnir> 6) Detach hdd
[07:16] <TyrfingMjolnir> 7) mount hdd in other computer
[07:16] <TyrfingMjolnir> 8) boot
[07:17] <robotdevil> the bootstrap will install a bootloader as well?
[07:17] <TyrfingMjolnir> 5b) Not sure if grub has to be run before you detach the HDD
[07:18] <robotdevil> ok thanks for refresher
[07:18] <robotdevil> much appreciated
[07:19] <robotdevil> One more question, wubi is installed within windows correct?
[07:19] <TyrfingMjolnir> Remember to us uuids
[07:19] <TyrfingMjolnir> Windows is beyond me
[07:19] <somsip> robotdevil: yes it is
[07:19] <TyrfingMjolnir> Or above or below...
[07:20] <robotdevil> thanks
[07:23] <PCatinean> Hey guys, how do I make my synclient changes stick?
[07:26] <trijntje> !wubi | robotdevil
[07:26] <trijntje> wubi is not stable at all, I would not use it
[07:34] <arcsky> what do you guys recommend ansible or puppet or chef?
[07:35] <somsip> arcsky: they work in different ways. Define you use case (to yourself as this is offtopic here) and see which best fits your needs
[07:49] <PHPLearner> I want to extend the screen display of my laptop to another monitor
[07:49] <PHPLearner> what must I do to accomplish this
[07:49] <PHPLearner> I have connected the monitor's vga to my laptop already
[07:50] <PHPLearner> I am running Ubuntu 14
[07:50] <PHPLearner> please help
[07:52] <arcsky> somsip: i want to do security/packge updates. and lets say i want to do add a setting in apache.conf i want it to be distributed to all servers in web server class
[07:57] <somsip> arcsky: my previous reply still applies. It's OT, and you haven't defined your use case. Hint - how do you want it to be distributed.
[07:58] <trijntje> PHPLearner: system settings -> display
[07:59] <PHPLearner> I did already
[08:00] <PHPLearner> I am wondering my Ubuntu laptop does not detect the other monitor
[08:00] <Generator_> HI I have the following GPT configuration, http://fpaste.org/211118/8472414/raw/ , I want to remove sdb3 from md2 and add it to md3, now when I remove it from md2 its OK, but add it to md3 gives me error "mdadm: /dev/sdb3 not large enough to join array"
[08:00] <Generator_> Please help
[08:01] <PHPLearner> the other monitor says scanning but ends up giving a message 'Monitor Going to Sleep'
[08:01] <PHPLearner> I used the monitor on another laptop it works but with my Ubuntu laptop it is not
[08:01] <PHPLearner> My coursemate just used it
[08:01] <PHPLearner> but now I cannot
[08:01] <PHPLearner> I do not know what is wrong
[08:03] <nishantjr> PHPLearner, whats the output of xrandr?
[08:03] <Tumi> phplearner which GPU and drivers do you have, is the connection HDMI or DisplayPort or something else?
[08:04] <IncompleteJerk> hi, i am new to ubuntu and would like to setup something like a kiosk. any suggestions for a partitioning scheme on a 160GB hdd?
[08:05] <lotuspsychje> IncompleteJerk: i know there are some kiosk software packages to do what you need
[08:05] <lotuspsychje> IncompleteJerk: partition is the users choice, depends on your needs
[08:06] <IncompleteJerk> lotuspsychje: really? i'll try to research on that a bit. thanks! :)
[08:09] <lotuspsychje> IncompleteJerk: this guide looks interesting: http://thepcspy.com/read/building-a-kiosk-computer-ubuntu-1404-chrome/
[08:10] <PHPLearner> I do not know
[08:10] <PHPLearner> never mind the monitor was taken back by the admin personnel
[08:10] <PHPLearner> maybe it was defective
[08:10] <PHPLearner> I do not know
[08:10] <PHPLearner> anyway thanks fellas
[08:11] <PHPLearner> I just have to contend with this small monitor for now
[08:11] <PHPLearner> thanks for all your help
[08:12] <PHPLearner> Ok I got a new one
[08:12] <PHPLearner> now its connected to my laptop
[08:12] <Generator_> can anyone help me here with GPT?
[08:12] <PHPLearner> but it only displays whatever I have on my laptop's screen
[08:12] <PHPLearner> when I got to display and press detect display it does not respond
[08:13] <k1l_> PHPLearner: open system settings and then monitors. then set the settings you like there
[08:13] <k1l_> if you got a nvidia card or a amd card they do have own settings programs
[08:13] <k1l_> PHPLearner: but we need lots more details on that to help you
[08:13] <PHPLearner> the xrandr output is
[08:14] <PHPLearner> xrandr: Failed to get size of gamma for output default
[08:14] <PHPLearner> Screen 0: minimum 640 x 480, current 1024 x 768, maximum 1024 x 768
[08:14] <cluelessperson> guys, I have this command for a website I've created, but it seems to run a tad slow, can anyone help me figure out why?
[08:14] <PHPLearner> default connected primary 1024x768+0+0 0mm x 0mm
[08:14] <PHPLearner> 1024x768 61.0*
[08:14] <cluelessperson> http://cluelessperson.com/slice/f0fdfd/1
[08:14] <PHPLearner> 800x600 61.0
[08:14] <PHPLearner> 640x480 60.0
[08:14] <k1l_> !paste | PHPLearner
[08:14] <mixer93kg> hey how to fix this ? E: Error, pkgProblemResolver::Resolve generated breaks, this may be caused by held packages.
[08:14] <cluelessperson> PHPLearner, uh.. pastebin that or my link just now
[08:14] <somsip> cluelessperson: you need the #python channel
[08:14] <k1l_> mixer93kg: please put all the command and ouput into a pastebin
[08:14] <cluelessperson> somsip, I'm banned there
[08:15] <cluelessperson> somsip, the mods are twats
[08:15] <mixer93kg> im new to linux
[08:15] <mixer93kg> how i do that
[08:15] <somsip> cluelessperson: language like that will get you no help from me either
[08:15] <k1l_> !paste | mixer93kg
[08:15] <cluelessperson> somsip, So you're twat too, that's fine.
[08:15] <cluelessperson> somsip, See the difference in context?
[08:16] <cluelessperson> "I'm offended!" So?
[08:16] <PHPLearner> cluelessperson: I just pasted the result of the xrandr command
[08:16] <cluelessperson> be offended.
[08:16] <cluelessperson> PHPLearner, so provide a link to it.
[08:16] <mixer93kg> i really dont get it, i use synaptic to update system and this happens E: Error, pkgProblemResolver::Resolve generated breaks, this may be caused by held packages.
[08:17] <PHPLearner> http://pastebin.com/JxhhhhE1
[08:17] * cluelessperson has trouble believing some people are so broken up by words, takes it as a sign of incredible weakness.
[08:17] <PHPLearner> that is the link to the xrandr command
[08:17] <k1l_> mixer93kg: open a terminal. then run "sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade" after its done put all into a pastebin
[08:17] <IncompleteJerk> lotuspsychje: thanks! i skimmed the article and read some of it but i think i can't apply it in my case. i'm sorry if i hadn't made it clear. i'm setting up a school's computer laboratory.
[08:18] <PHPLearner> any ideas fellas
[08:18] <lotuspsychje> IncompleteJerk: and how many pc's will you be using for the kiosk?
[08:18] <PHPLearner> the extra monitor is just duplicating whatever is on my laptop's screen
[08:18] <PHPLearner> I want it to extend my laptop's display
[08:18] <IncompleteJerk> there are more than 100 pc's here. 128 to be exact. :)
[08:18] <lotuspsychje> IncompleteJerk: maybe check software centre for 'kiosk'
[08:18] <PHPLearner> thing is I went to display
[08:19] <PHPLearner> then click detect displays
[08:19] <PHPLearner> nothing happens
[08:19] <mixer93kg> http://paste.ubuntu.com/10825623/
[08:19] <PHPLearner> the checkbox on mirror display is disabled yet it duplicates the display of my laptop screen
[08:20] <IncompleteJerk> these pc's will be used by computer science students for their laboratory classes and when their class is finished or when the pc is shutdown or restarted, i need it to get back to it's original state.
[08:20] <PHPLearner> will restarting my laptop help
[08:20] <k1l_> mixer93kg: did you make an upgrade from 14.04 to 14.10 recently?
[08:20] <mixer93kg> yeah few mins ago
[08:21] <k1l_> mixer93kg: did that success?
[08:21] <PHPLearner> fellas any help
[08:21] <PHPLearner> that I can use
[08:21] <PHPLearner> please
[08:21] <k1l_> mixer93kg: how did you do the upgrade?
[08:21] <k1l_> PHPLearner: what video card is it=? what driver is in use?
[08:21] <mixer93kg> yeah im in 14.10 now but some circle with white line pops up with that problem
[08:21] <mixer93kg> with update maganer
[08:22] <k1l_> mixer93kg: please give the one line output in here of: "uname -a" and "lsb_release -d"
[08:22] <PHPLearner> k1l_: how will I know what video card my laptop is using
[08:22] <PHPLearner> is there a command in the terminal I use to do that
[08:22] <k1l_> PHPLearner: lspci will tell you. please put the output into a pastebin
[08:23] <cluelessperson> PHPLearner, command | pastebinit
[08:23] <cluelessperson> PHPLearner, cat file | pastebinit
[08:23] <cluelessperson> or my sliceit ;)
[08:23] <mixer93kg> http://paste.ubuntu.com/10825640/
[08:23] <k1l_> cluelessperson: pastebinit needs to be installed first, and then pastebinit can read files, no need to cat and pipe them
[08:24] <k1l_> mixer93kg: ok now run a "sudo apt-get dist-upgrade"
[08:24] <cluelessperson> k1l_, I like to just pipe always, because it works for both reading files AND getting the results of commands
[08:24] <PHPLearner> http://pastebin.com/M0wpmpmE
[08:24] <PHPLearner> that's the result for the lspci command from
[08:24] <k1l_> mixer93kg: seems like your upgrade didnt run properly or you used a wrong method of upgrade.
[08:24] <PHPLearner> the terminal
[08:25] <mixer93kg> http://paste.ubuntu.com/10825648/
[08:25] <PHPLearner> cluelessperson: i just gave the pastebin link
[08:25] <cluelessperson> PHPLearner, http://lmgtfy.com/?q=ubuntu+show+graphics+card+type
[08:25] <k1l_> PHPLearner: that is a very bad system when it comes to linux compatibilty
[08:25] <k1l_> cluelessperson: we dont use lmgtfy in here. so stop that please
[08:25] <PHPLearner> well I do not have any choice this is the only laptop I got
[08:26] <PHPLearner> I am a self supporting student man
[08:26] <PHPLearner> so I do not know much else on hardware stuff
[08:26] <cluelessperson> k1l_, I think it's perfect.
[08:26] <PHPLearner> anything I can to
[08:26] <k1l_> cluelessperson: its not. stop that in here. thanks
[08:26] <mixer93kg> what i have to do to fix it?
[08:27] <PHPLearner> k1l_: any suggestion man
[08:28] <vpghost> good
[08:28] <PHPLearner> Will restarting my ubuntu help
[08:29] <k1l_> mixer93kg: you system package management seems to be a mess. that could be caused by 3rd party packages or software or PPA that were installed. you need to try to "sudo apt-get install package" where package is the one that is mentioned to have unmet depencies and see why that cant be installed.
[08:29] <k1l_> mixer93kg: but first try a "sudo apt-get install -f"
[08:30] <PHPLearner> k1l_: any help
[08:30] <PHPLearner> with the monitor
[08:30] <PHPLearner> nishantjr: any help about the monitor
[08:30] <PHPLearner> Tumi: any help about the monitor
[08:30] <k1l_> PHPLearner: dont know sorry. i just know that SIS is poorly supported. you will need to dig informations about ubuntu and that specific video card and see if someone already fixed it.
[08:32] <mixer93kg> again same error
[08:33] <k1l_> mixer93kg: then try to install the mentioned packages one by one and see what they mention why they cant be installed. then try to install that packages. you need to get to the end of the line to get to know what is blocking
[08:34] <nishantjr> whats the output of 'xrandr' can you put it on pastbin or somthing
[08:34] <nishantjr> ^ PHPLearner
[08:34] <PHPLearner> yup
[08:34] <PHPLearner> any suggestion man
[08:34] <PHPLearner> please help
[08:34] <nishantjr> whats the output of 'xrandr' can you put it on pastbin or somthing
[08:34] <PHPLearner> I really need an extra monitor to finish my project
[08:35] <PHPLearner> I I gave the link earlier
[08:35] <MagePsycho> whats the best irc chat for ubuntu?
[08:36] <nishantjr> PHPLearner: xrandr? or is that lspci?
[08:37] <PHPLearner> lspci
[08:37] <mixer93kg> all gave me same error
[08:37] <PHPLearner> nishantjr: http://pastebin.com/M0wpmpmE that's the link
[08:37] <PHPLearner> I need an extra screen man
[08:37] <PHPLearner> I am coding
[08:38] <PHPLearner> its hurting my eyes doing it in the laptop
[08:38] <nishantjr> In a terminal run: xrandr
[08:39] <mixer93kg> can i remove broken packages?
[08:40] <zoe_ww> woo
[08:44] <memoryleak> Hi. The Slave Server is getting out of sync all the time with error's like "Could not execute Write_rows event on TABLENAME; Cannot add or update a child row: a foreign key constraint fails" - what possibilities do I have to prevent this happening?
[08:44] <sgo11> hi, latest ubuntu 14.04.2 LTS. When I try to install qt5-default, I got this umet dependencies error: "qt5-default : Depends: qtbase5-dev but it is not going to be installed". any ideas?
[08:46] <PHPLearner> nishantjr: any ideas?
[08:46] <nishantjr> Please read my mesages
[08:47] <sgo11> http://hastebin.com/omemagitot.vbs
[08:48] <k1l_> sgo11: try to install qtbase5-dev and see what is blocking that
[08:48] <PHPLearner> nishantjr: http://pastebin.com/RhjP3X1S
[08:48] <PHPLearner> that is the result of xrandr command
[08:49] <sgo11> k1l_, http://hastebin.com/leyacisaxi.vhdl
[08:49] <sgo11> k1l_, is that this bug? https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/qtbase-opensource-src/+bug/1435324
[08:55] <kn333> Hello, I think I have broken the package manager (apt-get)
[08:56] <kn333> by mistake I manually removed the libboost packages (which I previous installed from apt-get)
[08:57] <k1l_> sgo11: i dont know. could be this bug
[08:57] <kn333> How can I remove all of the leftover information on this library from apt-get ?
[08:58] <kn333> such that It's not confused about still having this in the registry
[08:58] <sgo11> k1l_, I have already did apt-get dist-upgrade to the latest. I still have this problem. comments in that bug say the fix has been released.
[08:58] <lotuspsychje> !discuss | MagePsycho
[09:04] <blueingress> Hi, How can I tail multiple logs from differnt servers to a console? Thanks.
[09:05] <sgo11> Do I need to install ubuntu-sdk for fixing this issue?
[09:07] <lotuspsychje> blueingress: maybe the #ubuntu-server guys know a push trick of the tail logs
[09:08] <blueingress> lotuspsychje, thanks
[09:09] <somsip> sgo11: I found installing the sdk from PPA brought in a lot of unwanted dependencies and things got ugly for a while, but that was on 14.04
[09:10] <sgo11> somsip, I am running latest 14.04. my problem is that I can not install qt5-default.
[09:11] <somsip> sgo11: I was answering your question about the sdk. I have no idea abot qt5, but wanted to give you fair warning if you were thinking of going down the sdk-from-ppa route
[09:12] <sgo11> somsip, ok. thanks. i have no idea what ubuntu-sdk is. that bug is talking about ubuntu-sdk, that's why I asked here. ubuntu-sdk is in the official repo. why do I install it from ppa? I don't quite get what you mean.
[09:12] <somsip> sgo11: don't worry about it then
[09:13] <sgo11> somsip, ok. cheers. ^_^
[09:17] <sgo11> http://hastebin.com/usicihuyom.vhdl
[09:25] <lng> Hi! Cannot boot fresh Ubuntu install - "Selected boot device failed. Press any key to reboot the system." Why?
[09:28] <chotaz`w> Good morning guys! Or whatever fits your timespan :P I need some help figuring out why I intermittently need to run "sudo lsusb" after boot to get my USB ports working. I have no idea how to go about debugging and further more, fixing this. I'd appreciate any help
[09:38] <rahul__> nux
[09:42] <olle_> anybody know how to find #backbox?
[09:42] <cfhowlett> !backbox | olle_
[09:58] <gauker> how do I check which dns servers my ubuntu is using ?
[09:58] <vlt> gauker: cat /etc/resolv.conf
[09:59] <gauker> vlt: it points to 127.0.1.1 ?
[09:59] <vlt> gauker: Is that a question?
[09:59] <amnesiak> vit that gives you the list of servers not necessarily the one thats resolving dns queries
[10:00] <gauker> vlt: more confusion; am looking for the actual dns servers that are queried
[10:01] <SomeT> I have a quick question, my university is telling me to install Ubuntu 14.04.2 LTS (Trusty Tahr) x86, I have x64 bit machine, is there any advantage I can give myself to installing x64 version of this?
[10:01] <vlt> gauker: I think, "dig" would tell you in its "ANSWER" section.
[10:01] <cfhowlett> SomeT, same process. why did your uni specify x86?
[10:01] <SomeT> I have no idea why they specified this
[10:02] <gauker> vlt: dit shows ";; SERVER: 127.0.1.1#53(127.0.1.1)"
[10:02] <SomeT> just out of ease and lesser failure for noobs perhaps?
[10:02] <cfhowlett> SomeT, might be worth asking.
[10:02] <SomeT> they take so long to respond
[10:03] <vlt> gauker: Then that is the actual server. Something on your local machine.
[10:04] <gauker> vlt: right, Im trying to diagnose slow dns issues; hence I want to know which dns servers my local dns server is querying
[10:04] <amnesiak> gauker: you have a local dns caching server lik vlt says
[10:04] <amnesiak> gauker: prime suspect would be dnsmasq
[10:05] <Eightynine> Hi. I have tearing in Firefox. How to get rid of it? I know that I haven't tearing in Chromium and Chrome, maybe install Chrome?
[10:05] <gauker> amnesiak: yep, dnsmasq is listening on port 53
[10:06] <amnesiak> gauker: then take a look at dnsmasqs config to see which external dns servers are specified
[10:09] <gauker> amnesiak: thanks, /etc/dnsmasq.d/network-manager is the only file I can find and the only conf it has is "bind-interfaces"
[10:09] <gauker> amnesiak: no sight of external dnsservers
[10:09] <DazPetty> what file calls xinitrc? for starting the window manager?
[10:10] <do0fY2> HI, someone here who would help a linux noob with 2-3 issues?
[10:11] <amnesiak> DazPetty: possibly xinit
[10:11] <cfhowlett> !ask | do0fY2
[10:12] <do0fY2> i have an zentyal system set up here. 1 SSD for System and 2 4TB Hdds for storage. No i want the 2 Hdds to be mounted into an directory. permanently. i tried with google, but it seems, that i am just to stupid
[10:14] <amnesiak> gauker: is there no /etc/dnsmasq.conf ?
[10:15] <gauker> amnesiak: nope, but I did find /etc/dbus-1/system.d/dnsmasq.conf and /run/NetworkManager/dnsmasq.conf
[10:15] <gauker> amnesiak: not sure which one to edit though
[10:16] <amnesiak> gauker: ubuntu has made a pigs ear out of dns configuration in the last few years no thanks to network manager
[10:17] <gauker> amnesiak: heh
[10:18] <amnesiak> gauker: are you just trying to find which servers youre using or did you want to change them?
[10:18] <gauker> amnesiak: both ideally
[10:19] <adamdalg32> exciting
[10:19] <adamdalg32> ...
[10:19] <amnesiak> well you could look at those dnsmasq.conf files you found to see which ones youre using
[10:20] <gauker> amnesiak: one is empty and the other has xml in it ??
[10:20] <amnesiak> if you want to change them then its probably easier to manually configure new dns servers on the interface via network manager
[10:21] <gauker> amnesiak: I can just edit resolv.conf ?
[10:22] <gauker> s/can/could
[10:22] <chotaz`w> Good morning guys! Or whatever fits your timespan :P I need some help figuring out why I intermittently need to run "sudo lsusb" after boot to get my USB ports working. I have no idea how to go about debugging and further more, fixing this
[10:22] <amnesiak> gauker it will be overwritten at the next boot
[10:22] <gauker> amnesiak: how do I make it persist ?
[10:26] <amnesiak> gauker: you could try editing /etc/resolvconf/resolv.conf.d/head
[10:27] <amnesiak> gauker: and add nameserver entries to that
[10:28] <gauker> amnesiak: thanks
[10:28] <gauker> amnesiak: that also has a warning that it'll be overwritten though ?
[10:28] <amnesiak> gauker: :(
[10:30] <amnesiak> gauker: the only other thing i can think of is dhclient.conf and using the "prepend" setting
[10:31] <hamsies> user@ubuntuCarp:/opt/odoo/addons$ cp website_multi_image/website_multi_image website_multi_image
[10:31] <hamsies> cp: omitting directory ‘website_multi_image/website_multi_image’
[10:31] <hamsies> im trying to put folder/folder into /folder
[10:31] <gauker> amnesiak: thanks, I did edit head and reboot and the changes have persisted
[10:33] <amnesiak> gauker: yeah was just about to say the .head file just carries that as a default warning so as not to edit the resolv.conf file when created
[10:33] <amnesiak> gauker: is really an overcomplicated mess now with dns
[10:33] <gauker> amnesiak: yeh, thats weird, so the actual file won't be edited at all then ?
[10:34] <gauker> amnesiak: thanks for navigating me through it!
[10:34] <zy3pD> i wanna convert a video from ts to mp4 or something like this on commandline this way: inputvideostream | convert-to-mp4 -o video.mp4 ... can u guys help me?
[10:34] <amnesiak> gauker: the resolv.conf file always gets rewritten at boot
[10:35] <gauker> amnesiak: okay, thanks
[10:36] <grishzakyan> hello everybody
[10:36] <amnesiak> gauker: ive had resolv.conf not include the changes in the .head file before for some strange reason
[10:36] <stegomon> hi!
[10:37] <grishzakyan> who can help me?
[10:37] <gauker> amnesiak: yeh, I have to reboot for it to inc. the changes
[10:37] <grishzakyan> i have wireless network problem
[10:38] <amnesiak> gauker: i think resolvconf -u will reload the config too
[10:38] <gauker> amnesiak: okay, thanks
[10:40] <grishzakyan> help me fix my wifi problem
[10:41] <TheNumb> !patience | grishzakyan
[10:42] <grishzakyan> okay, thanks
[10:42] <sgo11> this is damn weird. the unmet dependencies errors are fixed by `apt-get install libgles2-mesa-dev` manually.
[10:43] <grishzakyan> i cant wait till will answer me from askubuntu...)
[10:43] <grishzakyan> :)
[10:48] <Super_Ape> Can I have portuguese support?
[10:48] <neredsenvy> Quick question if I write a chained command like this: "avconv -f image2 -framerate 24 -i %d.jpg -crf 1 test.mov && mkdir test" will test folder be created after avconv is executed or somewhere while avconv is executing ?
[10:50] <DJones> !pt | Super_Ape
[10:52] <Super_Ape> DJones, Hello, Thanks buddy!
[11:03] <jermaine> Has anyone had the issue of "Couldn't load libexif" when they tried to install/start chrome
[11:04] <jermaine> I've tried googling but the results are limited for now and not useful
[11:08] <hi-tower> Hello! I have a problem with velvet installation on an eeepc. There are separate / and /usr partitions. / is 4GB and somehow filled up. Unable to locate the file(s) that are clogging my partition. Kindly asking for advice
[11:09] <hi-tower> I am trying with "du" command and checked the usual suspects (/tmp/, /var/log)
[11:09] <hateball> hi-tower: is this a fresh install or upgrade? have you checked /boot for old kernels?
[11:10] <hi-tower> Hateball: this was a dist-upgrade. I found an old kernel at /boot and modules at /lib/modules. I removed them
[11:10] <hi-tower> hateball: would you confirm that 4Gb is plenty enough for a typical install, with a separate /home and /usr partitions?
[11:12] <g105b> Since upgrading my packages, I can't launch Nautilus. No output in terminal, nothing. Any ideas of where to start debugging?
[11:14] <hateball> hi-tower: and you've done "apt-get autoremove" as well I take it?
[11:14] <hi-tower> hateball: for sure I did! :-)
[11:15] <philm88> Hi all. I'm using a server install of ubuntu 14.04 and am setting it up so that it boots into firefox full screen, like a kiosk. That part all works fine. What's not working though is firefox's h264 html5 video support. It worked out of the box on desktop ubuntu, but not on server. I've installed firefox, ubuntu-restricted-extras & gstreamer1.0-libav to no avail - does anyone have any ideas?
[11:19] <philm88> & I did check the gstreamer flags are true in about:config - they were by default
[11:24] <tiyteeze> can somone tell me how I can change the main repository of my apps for a one with the apps of non-supported ubuntu
[11:24] <hi-tower> in order to identify the culprit drive space clogger: I remember there used to be a tool graphically displaying the relative space usage in directories. could someone point me to the name of that tool? KDE preferred
[11:25] <k1l> baobab is a tool for ubuntu
[11:25] <Wug> hi-tower: I know there's baobab
[11:25] <k1l> dont know kde ones
[11:25] <hi-tower> Wug: ok will give it a try!
[11:25] <Wug> k1l: is too fast for me
[11:26] <techgrin> hi-tower: you could search for "winDirStat Linux alternatives"
[11:26] <k1l> for kde you want filelight
[11:26] <hi-tower> k1l: OK thanks! I will hopefully manage to install it without completely blocking that poor machine
[11:26] <zombiefox> hi-tower: sure, flielight
[11:26] <zombiefox> or bonobo for GTK stuff.
[11:26] <Wug> hi-tower: https://forum.kde.org/viewtopic.php?f=22&t=100844
[11:27] <hi-tower> Wug: cool! I will attempt to install it
[11:27] <Wug> you could also do it on the command line with du
[11:27] <hi-tower> techgrin: thank you. I was unaware of the name of the corresponding windows tool :-)
[11:28] <hi-tower> Wug: I am aware & using DU, but it is not as efficient if required to look into many directories
[11:28] <Wug> that surprises me
[11:28] <Wug> the unix philosophy of command line tools indicates that it would be more or less the best possible choice
[11:29] <k1l> hi-tower: for cli there is ncdu
[11:29] <techgrin> tiyteeze: how's this- http://www.warpconduit.net/2011/07/31/apt-repository-for-old-ubuntu-releases/
[11:29] <tiyteeze> techgrin: thanks
[11:29] <techgrin> basically you modify your /etc/sources.list file, then to apt-get update
[11:30] <philm88> anyone know anything about firefox h264 support? Seems to support it out of the box for desktop ubuntu, but I'm struggling to get it working in server ubuntu
[11:30] <k1l> tiyteeze: you should not run a EOL ubuntu release anyway.
[11:30] <tiyteeze> kll
[11:30] <tiyteeze> it is obn my nexus 7
[11:30] <tiyteeze> On my computer I run ubuntu 14.10
[11:31] <k1l> tiyteeze: even there you should not run an outdated ubuntu. talk to the -arm guys how to solve that issue to get a recent ubuntu
[11:31] <hi-tower> k1l: Oh ok, is ncdu included in standard install of velvet, or do I install it separately?
[11:31] <k1l> hi-tower: dont think its standard. but you can install it from the repos.
[11:32] <tiyteeze> k1l: it is impossible to have a recent ubuntu on nexus 7
[11:32] <techgrin> philm88: why are you running server edition on a machine you're using firefox on?
[11:32] <hi-tower> k1l: ok thanks, that would be an alternative
[11:33] <hi-tower> k1l: could you give me a hint of the rough size of a velvet desktop install with KDE5, excluding /usr and /home?
[11:33] <philm88> techgrin: This is going to be a minimal kiosk-type set up. I don't need 99% of the stuff the full desktop version installs
[11:33] <puffi> I installed gnome using the following apt-get install xorg gnome-core gnome-system-tools gnome-app-install on a ubuntu 14.04.2 server. This is a VM image on an ESX5.5 host. gdm starts but after login it's a blank screen. could anyone point me in the right direction?
[11:33] <k1l> hi-tower: for 15.04 questions better ask in #ubuntu+1
[11:34] <hi-tower> k1l: ok. how much would it be on 14.10?
[11:35] <k1l> hi-tower: i dont know about the kde stuff. even though the new kde5 stuff is different on the +1. in general you are fine with about 15GB. some minimalistic will work with 7gb
[11:35] <hi-tower> k1l: ok, i see. But most of the stuff is in /usr anyway
[11:36] <hi-tower> and my /usr is on a separate partition, not affected by the space problem
[11:36] <philm88> techgrin: I've installed gstreamer1.0-libav, which is apparently what newer versions (>30) require instead of gstreamer0.1-ffmpeg - but still no h264 support
[11:37] <techgrin> philm88: A kiosk sounds more like a desktop than a server though. Anyway, if I can help I will help. Does firefox show some sort of error when viewing h264 vids?
[11:38] <philm88> techgrin: Thanks. It just greys out the video block with "No video with supported format and MIME type found"
[11:39] <techgrin> philm88: what version of ubuntu are you using?
[11:39] <philm88> techgrin: 14.04
[11:39] <hi-tower> philm88: What does firefox show at Menu -> Tools -> addons -> plugins tab?
[11:39] <techgrin> philm88: 32 or 64 bit?
[11:40] <philm88> 64
[11:41] <techgrin> philm88: k im seeing if I can get it to work
[11:42] <philm88> thanks. Out of the box 14.04 desktop x64 does, so I presume I'm just missing a package or two
[11:44] <jermaine> Is there a way to convert an .so file to a new name?
[11:44] <ccat> is this bad: renamed libexif.so.12.x.x to just libexif.so
[11:45] <hi-tower> ccat: mv oldname newname ?
[11:46] <ccat> hi-tower: no, no, meaning, is it valid?. are they the same file type?
[11:47] <emash> hello everyone! i created usb stick in uefi mode
[11:47] <emash> aaand it's not loading
[11:48] <colbyf> anyone know what this means>>This is caused by Ubuntu's QA being a bit broken and only allowing some frameworks 5.9 packages into the archive. If you manually add vivid-proposed and upgrade it will install the rest and this bug goes away. So this is an incompatibility between versions of kf5.
[11:48] <emash> i used virtualbox to install ubuntu (checked 'use efi') to a virtual drive, then converted it to raw and written to usb. My pc sees uefi entry, but loads windows instead
[11:49] <[n0mad]> jermaine and ccat, from what i've read online you definitely should't just rename shared libraries
[11:49] <[n0mad]> if you do you will have to recompile applications that use those libraries
[11:49] <marco_jiang> 有人吗
[11:49] <[n0mad]> doesn't sound like a fun day
[11:49] <marco_jiang> hello
[11:50] <marco_jiang> fuck
[11:50] <hi-tower> ccat: normally library-version.so.3 is a link to library-version.so.detailed-version
[11:50] <chotaz`w> opinions on plank vs docky anyone?
[11:50] <ccat> [n0mad]: even just for temp purposes to see if it makes app B work even if it temp disrupts app A?
[11:51] <hi-tower> ccat: so when you upgrade to a new sub-version, the link is updated so the programs can always find the lib still under the same name
[11:51] <hi-tower> ccat: my experience is that renaming libraries manually is asking for trouble
[11:52] <hi-tower> ccat: if you have a program that requires a specific lib version, that you cannot get (in parallel), then the next best option is to 1) compile from source against the available lib on your system
[11:52] <hi-tower> ccat: or 2) ask the package maintainers for support
[11:52] <foofoobar> Hi. How can I update my certificates? When running things like wget on https pages I always get errors like this: http://hastebin.com/dubimujotu.vhdl
[11:52] <jermaine> The issue from chrome, I get a "Couldn't load libexif."
[11:53] <jermaine> which we assumes was libexif.so so I initially renamed it libexif.so and copied it into /opt/google/chrome
[11:54] <jermaine> but the libexif missing package error still persists
[11:55] <[n0mad]> have you tried sudo apt-get install libexif12 libexif-dev
[11:56] <jermaine> libexif12 I have, but let me give libexif-dev a try
[12:01] <jermaine> argh, no go
[12:01] <jermaine> google-chrome-stable still returns a missing libexif
[12:02] <killer1234> ciao
[12:02] <Ben64> jermaine: what are you trying to do
[12:02] <killer1234> !list
[12:02] <[n0mad]> maybe it's related to a plugin or extension
[12:02] <khawar> hi
[12:02] <jermaine> Hey Ben64, I'm simply trying to install chrome
[12:03] <Ben64> jermaine: add the ppa, install chrome
[12:03] <[n0mad]> oh, install, bah lol..going to get 2nd cup of coffee stat
[12:03] <jermaine> I've installed chrome from the official .deb
[12:03] <khawar> jaermaine try running apt-get upgrade first
[12:04] <jermaine> I already installed it, but when I try to run it, nothing shows up. Running google-chrome-stable in terminal leads to a "missing libexif"
[12:04] <jermaine> I have khawar :/
[12:04] <Ben64> jermaine: do you have the ppa on your system
[12:05] <jermaine> No, let me add that just to be sure
[12:05] <Ben64> maybe you installed the wrong deb
[12:06] <jermaine> I tried both the 32 and 64 bit
[12:06] <jermaine> from their official site, I will now try the PPA
[12:06] <Ben64> remove all the deb stuff first
[12:07] <jermaine> just did
[12:09] <sheer> are noob questions allowed here?
[12:09] <Ben64> all ubuntu support questions are allowed here
[12:10] <jermaine> :)
[12:10] <jermaine> Thanks Ben64 and others
[12:10] <jermaine> You guys the real MVPs
[12:10] <jermaine> No more random deb files, I'll make sure do it the PPA way
[12:10] <sheer> my computer has windows installed over the entire hard-drive. how would i go about installing ubuntu?
[12:11] <Ben64> sheer: the installer should give you an option to resize the windows install and free space for ubuntu
[12:11] <philinux> sheer;~ first this is to defrag and clean up windows and use windows to shrink it's partition to make room on the drive
[12:12] <sheer> oh, the installer will do that for me?? too good.
[12:12] <Ben64> sheer: in most cases, yes. there are sometimes when its not so easy
[12:13] <philinux> sheer;~ and backup any important stuff first
[12:13] <sheer> alright, thanks
[12:19] <dckap> hi
[12:19] <dckap> is anyone around
[12:19] <dckap> i need a help
[12:19] <TheNumb> !patience | dckap
[12:20] <TheNumb> !question | dckap
[12:20] <[n0mad]> if i want to increase the size of my ubuntu partition, say from 50GB to 100GB, is it basically correct to use gparted to shrink windows partition size, reboot to windows to make sure it's ok, then use gparted to increase ubuntu partition size?
[12:20] <dckap> i am not able to connect my irc client ip
[12:20] <puffi> I installed gnome using the following apt-get install xorg gnome-core gnome-system-tools gnome-app-install on a ubuntu 14.04.2 server. This is a VM image on an ESX5.5 host. gdm starts but after login it's a blank screen. could anyone point me in the right direction?
[12:20] <dckap> when i ping in terminal there is no reply
[12:23] <Eightynine> I have no sound in Lubuntu though I changed output from integrated sound card to HDMI. How to fix that?
[12:25] <techgrin> philm88: so how did you get a graphic environment from which to run firefox?
[12:25] <bazhang> Eightynine, check pcm in alsamixer, whats it set to
[12:25] <Eightynine> It dropped back to integrated sound card.
[12:25] <philm88> techgrin: I have an init script that starts matchbox-window-manager and starts firefox
[12:26] <bazhang> Eightynine, check pcm in alsa mixer whats it set to
[12:26] <philm88> techgrin: Essentially, I followed this tutorial, but used matchbox instead of openbox & used firefox instead of chrome: http://thepcspy.com/read/building-a-kiosk-computer-ubuntu-1404-chrome/
[12:27] <bazhang> Eightynine, have you checked it yet
[12:27] <Eightynine> HDMI 0, HDMI 0, playback 1
[12:28] <bazhang> Eightynine, did you check what I asked or not
[12:28] <Eightynine> Yes
[12:28] <bazhang> whats the setting then Eightynine
[12:28] <Eightynine> HDMI 0, HDMI 0, playback 1
[12:29] <bazhang> Eightynine, thats not a valid setting for pcm in alsamixer
[12:29] <Eightynine> And how to fix that?
[12:29] <bazhang> open a terminal Eightynine
[12:29] <Eightynine> And what next?
[12:29] <bazhang> Eightynine, type alsamixer
[12:30] <Eightynine> Done
[12:30] <bazhang> Eightynine, check pcm
[12:30] <Eightynine> Again it shows integrated sound card.
[12:30] <bazhang> Eightynine, check the setting for PCM
[12:31] <Eightynine> 00-00: ALC662 rev1 Analog : ALC662 rev1 Analog : playback 1 : capture 1│ │
[12:31] <Eightynine> │ │00-02: ALC662 rev1 Alt Analog : ALC662 rev1 Alt Analog : capture 1 │ │
[12:31] <Eightynine> │ │01-03: HDMI 0 : HDMI 0 : playback 1
[12:31] <bazhang> Eightynine, PCM goes from zero to 100
[12:31] <thom_> hola
[12:32] <Eightynine> What if i set it to 50-60 for example?
[12:35] <bazhang> Eightynine, try 80, install pavucontrol and padevchooser as well
[12:40] <grogoreo> hi
[12:42] <Eightynine> Why PulseAudio is not installed by default?
[12:43] <grogoreo> When I upgrade 14.10 from the stock ISO packages I can no longer login. .xsession-errors says xrdb: Resource temporarily unavailable xrdb: Can't open display ':0' No protocol specified. But logging in as guest works. Any ideas?
[12:44] <XTpeeps> hi~ guys....anyone knows how to install glibc-static glibc-utils in ubuntu.....
[12:44] <bazhang> !info glibc-utils
[12:45] <XTpeeps> ee
[12:48] <XTpeeps> in fact,i wanna know how to install hping in my ubuntu smoothly.....:(
[12:48] <bazhang> !find hping
[12:48] <Redditmemer69> N
[12:48] <bazhang> ^ XTpeeps
[12:49] <bazhang> !info hping3 | XTpeeps
[12:51] <XTpeeps> oh..may be it will take me some time to find out...
[12:51] <EriC^> XTpeeps: type sudo apt-get install hping3
[12:52] <BluesKaj> Hiyas all
[12:53] <XTpeeps> Eric^:正在设置 glibc (2.12-2) ...
[12:53] <XTpeeps> chown: 无效的用户: "mockbuild:mockbuild"
[12:53] <XTpeeps> chown: 无效的用户: "mockbuild:mockbuild"
[12:53] <XTpeeps> chown: 无效的用户: "mockbuild:mockbuild"
[12:53] <XTpeeps> chown: 无效的用户: "mockbuild:mockbuild"
[12:53] <XTpeeps> chown: 无效的用户: "mockbuild:mockbuild"
[12:55] <teaearlgraycold> Can anyone tell me what's wrong with this awk? awk -F / -f temp '{print $NF;}'
[12:55] <teaearlgraycold> Error: awk: cannot open {print $NF;} (No such file or directory)
[13:03] <ArcherGodson> teaearlgraycold, what do you want to do?
[13:04] <teaearlgraycold> ArcherGodson, actually I figured it out, was telling it to read code from a file, not data
[13:04] <teaearlgraycold> All good now
[13:06] <XTpeeps> Eric^:ThX,now i know that hping3(ubuntu) the same use hping(
[13:11] <Guest13406> hola
[13:11] <hkrrsx> morning
[13:12] <Guest13406> q hay
[13:13] <gabito92> ola
[13:15] <CR7> hola hay alguien
[13:16] <sgo11> hi, I met a problem when using qmake to compile a program. This is the error message: http://hastebin.com/raw/ecijawuwah It seems the program installation script got some usage syntax problems. that is the actual installation script: https://github.com/pgmodeler/pgmodeler/blob/develop/linuxdeploy.sh thanks
[13:16] <CR7> hola
[13:21] <gabito92> ola diego
[13:21] <CR7> hola
[13:21] <k1l> !es | gabito92 CR7
[13:21] <alexito92> hola
[13:22] <gabito92> de puta madre
[13:22] <CR7> hostras
[13:22] <cyberbrai> hi i am using ubuntu 14.04lts but unable to install the adb tools for android
[13:22] <alexito92> jaajjajajaaja
[13:22] <cyberbrai> if someone know about this then plz help me
[13:22] <cyberbrai> sd
[13:23] <cyberbrai> any help
[13:24] <cfhowlett> !patience | cyber
[13:24] <k1l> cyberbrai: what command? what error?
[13:25] <zouwhin> hello
[13:25] <cyberbrai> k1l luusb im not seen my number in terminal
[13:25] <k1l> cyberbrai: you said you cant install adb tools. so what is the real issue?
[13:25] <techgrin> philm88: ok I'm at where you're at now. In my environment, firefox won't display h264 video :P Now the fun part, making it display the vid
[13:25] <cyberbrai> k1l is there any blog where i see the steps how can i install adb step by step
[13:26] <philm88> techgrin: hehe thanks for spending so much time trying to help (: I still havent had any luck with it
[13:26] <k1l> cyberbrai: "sudo apt-get install android-tools-adb android-tools-fastboot"
[13:27] <cyberbrai> ok then
[13:27] <cyberbrai> please give me the right link for this
[13:27] <cyberbrai> i think it's time consuming
[13:27] <k1l> cyberbrai: i just gave you the command to install the adb and fastboot tools on ubuntu 14.04. so what is the issue?
[13:28] <nomic> adb is just installed - one package
[13:28] <nomic> tools
[13:28] <cfhowlett> cyberbrai, he gave you the command. run the command. done.
[13:29] <k1l> !in | cyberbrai maybe the people can help there in your native language
[13:31] <XTpeeps> is there ubuntu-cn?
[13:31] <EriC^> yeah
[13:31] <cfhowlett> !cn | XTpeeps
[13:31] <XTpeeps> thx
[13:33] <cyberbrai> sorry k1l actually i think that i waste your time that's a reason just one question with the help of adb tool i can see my android mobile screen in my desktop
[13:33] <k1l> cyberbrai: no. i dont know of screen sharing with adb.
[13:35] <k1l> cyberbrai: better ask the #android guys what to use for screen sharing
[13:40] <beakus> Hello, anyone out there?
[13:41] <cfhowlett> !ask | beakus
[13:42] <beakus> cfhowlett, Calm down, I want to make sure there is someone able to respond
[13:42] <cyberbrai> actually after using the luusb i am not able to see my device in terminal
[13:42] <cyberbrai> why any one plz
[13:42] <cfhowlett> beakus, 1. I'm always calm. 2. there's always someone in this channel.
[13:42] <beakus> I did an install and my root is getting swallowed
[13:42] <beakus> I have 20G for root and am almost out of space
[13:43] <beakus> This has happened with other distros as well, wherein something is running amok and consumiong the root space
[13:43] <k1l> beakus: what gives you "df -h"?
[13:43] <beakus> I should have PLENTY of space
[13:43] <jpds_> beakus: Check that the log files aren't being filled up with stuff?
[13:43] <beakus> jpds_, How would I delete the log files?
[13:43] <jpds_> beakus: No.
[13:44] <jpds_> beakus: Check that they're not being filled up.
[13:44] <jpds_> beakus: Deleting them isn't going to fix the root problem.
[13:44] <k1l> beakus: and put a "ls -alh /var/log" into the pastebin too
[13:45] <beakus> Yeah, probably the log files are going fritzy
[13:45] <beakus> My solution is generally to switch distros
[13:45] <jpds_> beakus: My solution is generally to fix the problem.
[13:45] <beakus> I encountered this issue initially on Slackware, and now it seems to be happening in 'buntu
[13:45] <k1l> beakus: lets work this yout instead of blindly reinstalling
[13:46] <k1l> beakus: but you need to give requested informations to get help.
[13:47] <patrick2> hello, i have major problems with my server. in the past it runned ubuntu server 12.10 now 14.04 and upgrading to 14.10. the package manager is messed up, some people tried to help me but i think they messed up my kernel and deleted grub, not possible to install grub anymore so im afraid to reboot. apt-get only gives errors on everything i try. please help
[13:48] <jpds_> patrick2: Why are you upgrading your server to non-LTS releases?
[13:48] <jpds_> patrick2: And pastebin the errors.
[13:48] <patrick2> jpds i was having trouble with the current version of samba and hoped the new version would work better.
[13:49] <beakus> "Error when getting information for file '/var/log/mail.log': No such file or directory"
[13:49] <patrick2> http://pastebin.com/CWtqwJXJ
[13:49] <jpds_> patrick2: In that case, it's generally better to fire up a VM and try the newer version there, rather than hoping. :)
[13:49] <k1l> beakus: what command used?
[13:50] <k1l> !paste | beakus
[13:50] <jpds_> patrick2: Do: sudo apt-get install -f ?
[13:50] <patrick2> jpds your right.
[13:51] <patrick2> jpds sudo apt-get install -f gives error http://pastebin.com/inpwd4jy
[13:52] <UbuntuTryer> Hello : I don't understand my sudo NOPASSWD configuration.
[13:52] <beakus> Ahh, the log is 11gigs
[13:52] <jpds_> patrick2: Wow.
[13:52] <jpds_> patrick2: I suggest backup your data and reinstall.
[13:52] <UbuntuTryer> I was exepecting to see the configuration in /etc/sudoers but I don't see anything about NOPASSWD....
[13:52] <beakus> jpds, been there, done that
[13:52] <UbuntuTryer> Is there another file?
[13:53] <jpds_> beakus: What.
[13:53] <beakus> Whatr's a good distro to install?
[13:53] <patrick2> jpds_ complete reinstall? no possible fix?
[13:53] <Zerkalerka> anyone running Ubuntu on any MSI gaming laptops?
[13:53] <jpds_> patrick2: Anything is possible to fix, it's just doing to take you time.
[13:53] <k1l> beakus: dont you want to solve that issue?
[13:54] <beakus> I habvent the technical sophostication at this time
[13:54] <patrick2> jpds_ at least i would be happy if it can run for now, maybe in my holiday i cant reinstall
[13:54] <jpds_> patrick2: I would reinstall in this case.
[13:54] <k1l> beakus: could be an easy fix. but if you are not interessted: install ubuntu (since you ask in #ubuntu)
[13:55] <jpds_> patrick2: You should have a backup of your data anyway.
[13:55] <cem_> hi guys, which is better , Ubuntu 14.04 or Ubuntu 15.04 ?
[13:55] <jpds_> beakus: Also, you seem to consistly refuse to give us the data we need to help you.
[13:55] <k1l> cem_: 15.04 is still in development
[13:56] <patrick2> jpds_ i know, but i didnt make backups of my root folder. and the only mount i have is a raid 5 array of 16TB. to much to backup. but i just unmount and remount it after reinstalling? its mdadm array so that should give no problems right?
[13:56] <cfhowlett> cem_, 14.04 is long term support. 15.04 will not be
[13:56] <cem_> hmm
[13:56] <cem_> so 14.04 is better
[13:56] <cem_> but i want more recent software
[13:56] <k1l> cem_: do you want to upgrade every months?
[13:56] <jpds_> cem_: Do you NEED more recent softwarE?
[13:56] <jpds_> patrick2: Should be.
[13:57] <cfhowlett> cem_, bleeding edge is frequently bloody. your choice.
[13:57] <cem_> i dont understand too much , what the difference about software is
[13:57] <beakus> jpds_, if you give me the command line commands, I can cut and pastebin for you
[13:57] <jpds_> beakus: 13:44:49 < k1l > beakus: and put a "ls -alh /var/log" into the pastebin too
[13:57] <cfhowlett> cem_, then you probably don't need the newest software :)
[13:57] <jpds_> cem_: Then go with 14.04.
[13:57] <patrick2> jpds_ okay, do you know a way that atleast it has grub again. so that if it reboots because of power problems it wont give trouble.. then next month i'l reinstall it
[13:58] <k1l> cem_: start with 14.04 if you dont know the difference then.
[13:58] <cem_> okey then thank you
[13:59] <beakus> jpds_, http://pastebin.com/1HdcXxk6
[13:59] <cem_> i have one more question
[13:59] <cem_> 14.10 vs 14.04 ?
[13:59] <jpds_> cem_: Just stick with 14.04.
[14:00] <cfhowlett> cem_, again: 14.04 is LTS. 14.10 is not
[14:00] <jpds_> beakus: tail -f /var/log/kern.log /var/log/syslog
[14:00] <cem_> interesting
[14:01] <beakus> jpds_, http://pastebin.com/BgCKpBYq
[14:01] <k1l> beakus: what gives you "uname -a" and "lsb_release -d"?
[14:01] <cyberbrai> As you say i can done installing
[14:01] <jpds_> beakus: Ah, hardware problem.
[14:01] <cyberbrai> K1l now what can i do for installing adb
[14:02] <k1l> cyberbrai: i already answered that.
cyberbrai: "sudo apt-get install android-tools-adb android-tools-fastboot"
[14:02] <cem_> sometimes , one program freezes and i cant find it with top | grep "name" , it doesnt appear however i know the name , why ?
[14:02] <cyberbrai> k1l it's done
[14:02] <cyberbrai> now
[14:03] <beakus> jpds_, Compatability issues?
[14:03] <jpds_> beakus: Now you have some error messages to Google around with.
[14:03] <k1l> cyberbrai: then its installed
[14:03] <beakus> jpds_, Or is my hardware borked?
[14:03] <cyberbrai> k1l installtion is complete
[14:03] <jpds_> beakus: But it seems to be something on a USB port.
[14:04] <chotaz`w> cyberbrai, you'll have to clearly state your doubt if you want further help, you asked for install instructions and they were provided to you
[14:04] <chotaz`w> k1l, sorry for the hop-in.
[14:04] <beakus> I have a mouse and keyboard attached
[14:04] <cem_> sometimes , one program freezes and i cant find it with top | grep "name" , it doesnt appear however i know the name , why ?
[14:04] <chotaz`w> but...
[14:04] <cyberbrai> k1l now how can i install the qtadb
[14:05] <cyberbrai> chotaz`w i want to share the screen of my android phone to desktop
[14:05] <cfhowlett> cyberbrai, did you ask #android what software you should use?
[14:05] <cyberbrai> no
[14:05] <cfhowlett> ...
[14:06] <cyberbrai> plz help on it
[14:06] <cfhowlett> cyberbrai, #android has the experts. ask them.
[14:06] <k1l> cyberbrai: i dont think that works with adb. please ask in #android what works with your mobile device.
[14:08] <cyberbrai> ok
[14:09] <lin> bash -c "command 'whatever' 'i want more of these' 'but they dont work'"
[14:09] <beakus> jpds_, anyway to mitigate the issue?
[14:09] <lin> how do i get that command to work?
[14:09] <lin> i want to have many layers of ''
[14:09] <lin> i tried \' \'
[14:09] <lin> but it does not work
[14:11] <Pici> lin: #bash would be the best place to ask this
[14:13] <Maimster> Morning all.
[14:14] <techgrin> philm88: no problem. I get bored sometimes and this is time well spent, I think. Helping out + learning stuff. No luck so far.
[14:15] <splitwire> techgrin - I learn a lot just be glancing around in this channel; its a great place to hang out
[14:18] <techgrin> splitwire: indeed. I added this channel to my auto connect list, love the ubuntu community
[14:18] <techgrin> philm88: installing a mystery package... crossing fingers
[14:20] <paws> hello, how can i change the default ftp for Linux-ftpd-0.17 ?
[14:20] <splitwire> paws are you wanting to change to a different version?
[14:21] <paws> splitwire: ugh sorry, i meant, how do i change the default Port
[14:21] <paws> lol
[14:21] <CptRageToaster> probably wrong place. I'd like to know which /dev/pts screen opened up on... is there a clean way to ask screen for this information?
[14:22] <CptRageToaster> if someone knows where I should ask, that'd be great
[14:23] <Maimster> paws: Are you wanting to change the port to the connecting ftp site?
[14:23] <zykotick9> CptRageToaster: does "w" show you?
[14:23] <Maimster> paws: Maybe you mean changing to port on your own ftp server?
[14:24] <paws> yea i want to change the default port ftpd port for my own ftp server
[14:24] <Maimster> paws: Which ftp server are you running?
[14:24] <zykotick9> IMO ftp & ports are a nightmare... ftpmustdie http://mywiki.wooledge.org/FtpMustDie
[14:25] <sailendra> hello there
[14:25] <sailendra> how do i increase the battery life in ubuntu
[14:25] <paws> Maimster: i dont know how to find out but when i connect to my ftp server it says "220 ubuntu FTP server (Version 6.4/OpenBSD/Linux-ftpd-0.17) ready."
[14:25] <splitwire> is that vsftpd?
[14:25] <Maimster> paws: Ah, okay you did say the default.
[14:25] <pmcgowan> bfiller, do you know whether we have verified mms support in various places in europe
[14:26] <pmcgowan> wrong channel
[14:26] <Maimster> splitwire: Probably one of the /etc configs.. checking.
[14:27] <splitwire> Maimster - I agree, I'm looking for paws right now
[14:27] <splitwire> I use that on CentOS but the file paths will be different
[14:27] <splitwire> paws - nano /etc/vsftpd.conf
[14:27] <Maimster> splitwire: Your right.
[14:27] <paws> i looked up "locate ftpd.conf" and nothing came back
[14:28] <paws> in /etc/ there is only ftpchroot ftpusers
[14:28] <jarnos> Is it possible to choose in grub to boot a release using e.g. -generic kernel or -lowlatency kernel? Or do you have to make different installation for each selection?
[14:28] <splitwire> paws, what version of Ubuntu are you running
[14:29] <paws> splitwire: 14.04.2
[14:30] <splitwire> paws, hmmmm did you install vsftpd with the software center or with apt-get?
[14:31] <Maimster> paws: Your able to logon with your users right?
[14:32] <tir_> #irc.twitch.tv
[14:34] <Maimster> splitwire: In 14.04 LTS Do you have to install an ftp server to get the services?
[14:34] <splitwire> Maimster, I think so
[14:34] <TomAstro> hi folks, just did a fresh install of 14.04, I'm having an issue with { Software & Updates }, When I click on it; it does not run. Do I reinstall again or is there a fix? Thanks
[14:34] <Maimster> splitwire: I rarely ftp into my own box as I have an small in house server here. I'm pretty sure he will have to install vsftpd or something like that.
[14:35] <mcphail> jarnos: you can select the kernel from grub
[14:35] <splitwire> That is what I was thinking Maimster, I think vsftpd just isn't there yet
[14:35] <lasdam> how is grub generated with the command update-grub? I have apt-get removed selinux, but grub is still insisting on loading with selinux=1, and when I manually edit grub to selinux=0 or remove the line, next update-grub and it's overwritten to selinux=1 again, and this line seem to still cause a few problems with my system
[14:35] <splitwire> paws, can you install it with apt-get install vsftpd
[14:35] <mcphail> lasdam: edit /etc/default/grub
[14:36] <mcphail> lasdam: then update-grub again
[14:36] <Maimster> splitwire: That's why I was asking was he currently logging into his box via ftp now. I think the older versions used inet.d or something.
[14:36] <splitwire> Maimster, I know linux you can start up a quick and dirty web server and share stuff like that
[14:36] <zykotic10> CptRageToaster: fyi, there is a #screen channel
[14:36] <jarnos> mcphail, yes, but can you install many types of kernels in same system?
[14:36] <CptRageToaster> tyvm
[14:36] <splitwire> Maimster, I think you are spot on
[14:36] <mcphail> jarnos: of course :)
[14:36] <lasdam> mcphail: ah, thanks!
[14:36] <mcphail> lasdam: np :)
[14:37] <Maimster> splitwire: Pretty sure Ubuntu stopped that. Now you have to use vftpd as it's so easy and secure.
[14:37] <jarnos> mcphail, does it make sense. Can e.g. ubuntu studio boot by -generic kernel?
[14:37] <Maimster> splitwire: I only had like 1 cup of coffee, running slower now. :o)
[14:37] <mcphail> jarnos: if you want
[14:37] <splitwire> Maimster, really they stopped that, bummer. I just use my dedicated server for all that now so I don't keep up
[14:37] <mcphail> jarnos: you may get audio stutters, however
[14:38] <Maimster> splitwire: Exactly!
[14:38] <splitwire> Maimster, lol! I'm on my second Monster I should be more on my game
[14:38] <jarnos> mcphail, oh, I was just developing a script to remove extra kernels, so I can not assume all installed kernels are of same type.
[14:38] <Maimster> splitwire: Funny is we do what we know. Masters or our own little worlds.
[14:39] <mcphail> jarnos: apt-fet autoremove will remove old kernels automatically
[14:39] <mcphail> apt-get*
[14:39] <jarnos> mcphail, no?
[14:39] <Maimster> splitwire: Have you tried plex on ubuntu? Runs really well with old hardware too.
[14:39] <splitwire> Maimster - very very true. It is great to master things but bad because it is easy to become comfortable and stop learning new things
[14:40] <Maimster> splitwire: That's why I stop in here.
[14:40] <TomAstro> Anyone? { Software & Updates } does not run in fresh install 14.04, Thanks
[14:40] <mcphail> jarnos: I don't think you can assume any such thing. A user may have installed different kernels from the repositories, installed some from Mainline or rolled-their-own from kernel.org. All can coexist
[14:41] <mcphail> jarnos: my system is like that...
[14:41] <jarnos> mcphail, oh
[14:41] <splitwire> Maimster: I have not tried plex in awhile. I used to love it and had my whole family setup so they could access my library but I got busy, stopped maintaining it and then decided I wanted to learn some CentOS stuff
[14:41] <Maimster> TomAstro: Your updates, do they run from the terminal?
[14:42] <TomAstro> When things are running I do, but from a fresh install I usually use the software updater.
[14:42] <Maimster> splitwire: A lot of companies prefer CentOS. RMS uses it for their pharmacy software.
[14:42] <TomAstro> I'm trying to get at the video drivers
[14:43] <Maimster> TomAstro: Video drivers? nVidia card by any chance?
[14:43] <splitwire> Maimster: I work in a place were I get to do some server stuff and web development so I thought it was good to get some better exposure. That is the direction I want to go with my formal education so whats better than having it in your own house
[14:43] <OerHeks> TomAstro, what gives terminal when you run: software-properties-gtk #this is the name of softwarecenter
[14:43] <TomAstro> Maimster: This is the first time I have ever encountered this issue. Yes on Nvidia. It is running in nouveau at the moment.
[14:43] <splitwire> Maimster: I'm at work now, SSH into my server - that is how I'm able to be on here :)
[14:44] <Maimster> splitwire: Hee,hee.. good man. I just got turned on to sdf.org Free shell accounts. I use Xubuntu myself throught the house.
[14:45] <TomAstro> Let me pastebin the error that I get
[14:45] <splitwire> Maimster: I'll have to look into that. I've got lubuntu on my main latop at home and Raspian on a few RPi
[14:46] <Maimster> splitwire: Actually sounds sweet. I used to run ubuntu, however so fat and bloated now.
[14:47] <Maimster> splitwire: Also Steam runs miles better on Xubuntu IMO.
[14:48] <splitwire> Maimster: really! I need something to run better on my older laptop, Kerbal Space Program is getting a little slow on lubuntu
[14:49] <TomAstro> OerHeks: Here is the Pastebin link. http://pastebin.com/MMZPxZbQ
[14:49] <OerHeks> TomAstro, oke, try to run: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade
[14:51] <TomAstro> OerHeks: I already been there, but I'll run that again just in case. brb
[14:52] <Maimster> splitwire: Try it, (Xubuntu). Only issue I found which I didn't like is ubuntu starting X with nolisten. booo
[14:52] <TomAstro> OerHeks: while that is running, I could not access the resources without manually updating Sources.list, so it will only get what is there from a fresh list.
[14:54] <TomAstro> OerHeks: I haven't touched the Sources.list yet. I usually tweak that later after things are running smoothly.
[14:55] <ment0s> Hi guys, So to get ubuntu touch apps on ubuntu desktop I just have to pull it from repository on desktop without modifications right ? Is there a list of those apps ?
[14:56] <TomAstro> there is a bug report filed at the time I tried to access the Software & Updates. https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/libx11/+bug/1444488
[14:56] <OerHeks> ment0s, there is one app available AFAIK, the standard browser named 'browser', maybe you want to join #ubuntu-touch too.
[14:56] <mcphail> ment0s: you need to install extra dependencies to run most apps. No idea if you can pull the apps direct from the repositories: I usually build them in the Ubuntu SDK
[14:57] <wedgeV> getting this when trying to install php5-fpm on 14.04: php5-fpm : Depends: php5-common (= 5.5.9+dfsg-1ubuntu4.7) but 5.5.9+dfsg-1ubuntu4.8 is to be installed
[14:58] <ment0s> mcphail: , OerHeks is there an open repo for those to install manually without SDK ?
[14:58] <wedgeV> (after running apt-get update && apt-get upgrade -y)
[14:58] <mcphail> ment0s: I can recommend the dekko email client: it makes a good desktop client and is much faster than thunderbird
[14:58] <OerHeks> TomAstro, ugh, sounds like a bad one, please confirm that bug, soit gets attention
[14:59] <OerHeks> TomAstro, you could also help by running this debug command and paste the output to your bugreport too > software-center --debug
[14:59] <TomAstro> OerHeks: I'll post another pastebin again. Looks as there are more errors in the process of the upgrade
[14:59] <HoloIRCUser> Hey i got one quest with my ubuntu
[15:00] <TomAstro> OerHeks: brb Going to post this upgrade errors in the bin
[15:00] <ioria> wedgeV, do you have PPA
[15:00] <ioria> ?
[15:00] <wedgeV> no, but i guess it’s the “proposed" repo causing the issue
[15:00] <OerHeks> wedgeV, did you run update/upgrade first, before doing any install ?
[15:00] <ment0s> mcphail: Its looking brilliant. I'm trying few options with docker to run selective gui apps like chrome and ubuntu touch apps on jessie. Ill give it a try (dekko) its looking brilliant.
[15:01] <mcphail> ment0s: nice
[15:04] <MoMohamed> salut
[15:04] <TomAstro> OerHeks: Its a long pastebin, minus the apt-get update. Just the Upgrade. http://pastebin.com/8mytPhuQ
[15:06] <ment0s> mcphail: how do I get it wihtout those scopes. Ehh ubuntu, please run it on ftp or something accesible
[15:07] <OerHeks> TomAstro, what happens when you run line #787 gdk-pixbuf-query-loaders > /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/gdk-pixbuf-2.0/2.10.0/loaders.cache
[15:07] <techgrin> philm88: well my best efforts have come up empty. I tried installing vlc and ubuntu-restricted-extras. I'll try some more things later but for now I'm hittin the hay
[15:07] <TomAstro> OerHeks: Let me check brb
[15:07] <philm88> techgrin: Ok, thanks for all your help anyway
[15:08] <baum> why isn't /opt included in the $PATH variable by default?
[15:09] <TomAstro> OerHeks: I still have Prepairing and Unpacking operation running yet. As soon as that is finished I'll try that
[15:10] <techgrin> greets
[15:12] <zykotick9> baum: probably, because it wouldn't make much sense to...
[15:13] <TomAstro> OerHeks: Now this is interesting, Very Interesting..... Unpacking ubuntu-docs (14.04.5) over (13.10.2) Now why is that? Very strange. I downloaded the 14.04 64 bit package and installed from USB and apparently it has 13.10 packages.
[15:14] <OerHeks> TomAstro, is this an upgrade from 13.10 ??
[15:14] <baum> zykotick9: why not? i though it's the place of choice to install software like eclipse?
[15:14] <TomAstro> OerHeks: nope clean drive fresh install
[15:14] <OerHeks> TomAstro, i noticed that 13,10 screen during install in that bugreport too
[15:14] <TomAstro> This looks like it is doing an upgrade
[15:15] <krambiorix> hi, in my /var/log/apache/error.log i get all weird stuff like : http://pastebin.com/2bF6F8nD I think my joomla instances got hacked. How can i stop this asap?
[15:15] <zykotick9> baum: oh, i'm a person who uses /opt but i don't have executables directly in /opt they're in /opt/subdirs/ but by default, it doesn't make sense. Add it to your path if you want, or do as i do, and just create links in ~/bin
[15:16] <TomAstro> OerHeks: I wonder if at the time I download 14.04 trusty someone was working on the package and posted 13.10 under the 14.04. I did an LS -a to get the version and it did say 14.04. Thats real odd
[15:17] <TomAstro> ls -a......
[15:17] <baum> zykotick9: i see. Well, what's the standart-way to do it? path, ~bin, or something else? (i don't want to develop bad habbits)
[15:17] <zykotick9> baum: when dealing with out of repo/unsupported software, i'm not sure there is a "standard" way...
[15:18] <TomAstro> OerHerks: I'm going to the back room to my main system and re-download the 14.04 and reinstall it on the USB drive.
[15:18] <TomAstro> brb...
[15:18] <TomAstro> Yep this is doing a full upgrade here.
[15:19] <krambiorix> anyone else?
[15:23] <baum> zykotick9: i see, thanks
[15:24] <baum> zykotick9: but you create the links in ~/bin - not /bin right? may i ask why?
[15:26] <zykotick9> baum: i _attempt_ to impact system folders as little as possible... for _me_ this includes /usr/ and everything under it, including /usr/local... but that's just my preference.
[15:26] <OerHeks> tubejockey, fix your connection please
[15:26] <zykotick9> baum: fyi, ~/bin is in your default PATH, if you create it, then log out and back in.
[15:27] <philm88> Hey all. Anybody know how to get h264 html5 video working in firefox on 14.04 server edition? Works out the box on desktop, not sure what packages i'm missing on server
[15:28] <genii> Hm, server with DE and FF
[15:28] <baum> zykotick9: ah well, i was just wondering since /opt/ is globally acessible, however ~/bin/ isn't.
[15:29] <baum> zykotick9: but i get the idea - thanks
[15:29] <zykotick9> baum: if you have multiple users, perhaps $PATH would be better? i only have one, so for me, ~/bin is easy... but YMMV
[15:30] <Tekkkz> Hello
[15:30] <Tekkkz> im a growing up developer
[15:30] <Tekkkz> and i want to make a game, after i tryed sfml, which is only a lib, i want to use an engine for a 3d game
[15:31] <Tekkkz> ubuntu is based on unity, but unity game engine is windows only, so what is good for use at ubuntu for a 3d game?
[15:31] <baum> Tekkkz: unity != unity game engine
[15:31] <Tekkkz> hm ok sorry
[15:31] <nukleuz> exit
[15:31] <baum> zykotick9: i see, thanks :)
[15:31] <ioria> Tekkkz take a look to openGL
[15:32] <Tekkkz> but opengl is difficult, isnt it, i had a little look some years ago
[15:32] <ioria> yep... a bit
[15:32] <pgunnars> Can some1 explain to me whats going on here. There is a mismatch in the file count between different sources (archive manager and folder properties show 1647 items, ctrl+a inside the folder shows 1645 items.) I've located an item which doesn't show up in the folder when browsing however if you search for it then it shows up.
[15:32] <somsip> Tekkkz: this is offtopic here, so this is all the help you get from me http://alternativeto.net/software/unity/
[15:32] <OerHeks> Tekkkz, lots of game engines > http://askubuntu.com/questions/34200/what-2d-3d-engines-and-game-sdks-are-available
[15:33] <Pici> pgunnars: Are you including the .. and . entries?
[15:33] <pgunnars> Pici: thats what I assumed the problem was at first, but how would you explain the missing file when browsing showing up when searching?
[15:34] <Pici> pgunnars: how are you searching for it?
[15:34] <pgunnars> either ranking the items by name or size
[15:34] <pgunnars> not thro cmd
[15:34] <pgunnars> everything looks normal through command line
[15:35] <flipapy> is there a command for downloading allthe community backrounds from 2010 - present at over 1960x1080 res??
[15:35] <Pici> pgunnars: hmm. I'm not sure then. I'm actually not much of a gui person myself.
[15:35] <pgunnars> wouldnt be bothering with this bizarre situation if it hadnt seemingly affected a day long run
[15:35] <flipapy> basically, get a zip file and extract it to pictures?
[15:36] <livepit> i made a service and placed it in /etc/init.d/tac_plus. i'm trying to get it to start at start up. i ran "service --status-all" and it shows a - next to it. i then ran sudo update-rc.d tac_plus defaults which seems to have taken the comand but it still has a - and doesn't start up. it does work when i do "service tac_plus start". what am i doing wrong?
[15:37] <genii> livepit: Instead of manually adding stuff to /etc/init.d use the update-rc.d command instead
[15:37] <[n0mad]> flipapy, http://www.webupd8.org/2014/05/download-all-ubuntu-community.html
[15:38] <pgunnars> Pici: and it's not . and .. that are affecting it, this isnt the case with other folders
[15:38] <livepit> genii: i think that's what i did, didn't i?
[15:38] <pgunnars> folder properties and ctrl+a inside folder show the same amount
[15:39] <flipapy> thanks n0fuq
[15:39] <flipapy> sorry n0fuq
[15:39] <flipapy> n0mad left, thanks n0mad
[15:39] <[n0mad]> sure no problem
[15:40] <livepit> genii: the only thing i did in /etc/init.d was place my startup script. i added it via update-rd.d
[15:40] <genii> livepit: The update-rc.d will automatically add any entries into /etc/init.d that are needed. You should not add manually there.
[15:40] <flipapy> oh hey i diddnt see th [n0mad] hey, will taht install all the wallpapers to my desktop backrounds or to my pictures folder ?
[15:41] <[n0mad]> that will put them to desktop backgrounds i'm pretty sure
[15:41] <livepit> genii: hmm, ok let me try a different way
[15:41] <livepit> thanks
[15:41] <flipapy> cool [n0mad] but do you know how i can send them directly to either downloads folder or pictures folder?
[15:42] <[n0mad]> flipapy, there's a link at the end of the article to a gz file
[15:42] <[n0mad]> that should let you do that
[15:42] <flipapy> cool, ill check thanks again
[15:43] <flipapy> right i got it, for non ubuntu users, i'll do both, trying soething out here.
[15:47] <Synchron> Nokia N900 is here
[15:51] <platsbruts> Hello
[15:54] <Synchron> ...
[15:55] <ninjai> So I have some open source web software running and I changed my IP to static after setting it up. Every time I click the login button, it tries to forward me to the incorrect, old, DHCP address. Is this a problem with the software or ubuntu config?
[15:56] <flipapy> im having trouble making a linux usb live drive. brasero doesnt sem to be making the drive, its only offering a cd option
[15:57] <OerHeks> ninjai, sounds like an setup problem, not an ubuntu bug or something, rerun the setup, or look in the manual of that"some open source websoftware" howto change the network config
[15:57] <SchrodingersScat> flipapy: try unetbootin or dd
[15:58] <SchrodingersScat> !livesub | flipapy
[15:58] <ninjai> I figured OerHeks, thanks.
[15:58] <OerHeks> usb-creator
[16:00] <alvaro> hola a todos
[16:00] <alvaro> Dios les bendiga desde Colombia
[16:00] <alvaro> alguien habla español
[16:00] <flipapy> thak you startup disk creator worked
[16:00] <flipapy> well is in process of working
[16:00] <emash> how do i write img.xz file to usb with mkusb?
[16:01] <Synchron> XUbuntu 14.04 on Nokia N900 here
[16:03] <ninjai> when I do: cat * | grep 192* it highlights 19. Everything is 19. No 192. Why is this?
[16:03] <isifreek> ninjai: * means "0 or more"
[16:03] <Pici> Synchron: okay?
[16:03] <isifreek> ninjai: you may want + whihc means "one or more"
[16:03] <ninjai> ahhh
[16:04] <ki7mt> emash, One way, but not using mkusb ; xzcat my-cool-img.xz | dd of=/dev/sdx bs=64k .. where /dev/sdx is the USB device.
[16:04] <isifreek> ninjai: that would match 192 and 19222
[16:04] <ninjai> actually
[16:04] <ninjai> no that didn't do what I expected
[16:04] <ninjai> I was searching for 192
[16:04] <ninjai> it showed me 19
[16:04] <Synchron> Pici: Everything s ok
[16:04] <alvaro> alguien habla español
[16:04] <alvaro> ???
[16:04] <Pici> !es | alvaro
[16:04] <ninjai> if I try same thing with "TEST*" then TEST_ASD shows up, for example
[16:05] <alvaro> ok gracias
[16:05] <ninjai> isifreek: http://puu.sh/heVhN/90a55bcf0e.png
[16:06] <Synchron> @Pici
[16:06] <isifreek> ninjai: `grep -r '192+' .`
[16:06] <isifreek> no need for cat
[16:07] <ninjai> doh..
[16:08] <ki7mt> emash, And here's a presentation updated in JAN-2015: http://phillw.net/isos/linux-tools/mkusb/mkUSB-quick-start-manual.pdf
[16:08] <Synchron> How to install Hydra in Wheezy?
[16:09] <emash> actually mkusb just crashed my machine i will try xzcat
[16:10] <Pici> Synchron: Try asking #debian, not #ubuntu
[16:10] <Synchron> Thanks
[16:11] <ki7mt> Synchron, I don't think Hydra is in Wheezy, you'd have to enable Jessie repos, but That is OT here, you should ask in OFTC #debian
[16:14] <Synchron> Is there anyone know how to make a key on keyboard work as a mouse right button?
[16:14] <EriC^> Synchron: xmodmap
[16:14] <Synchron> How to set it?
[16:15] <EriC^> Synchron: which key
[16:15] <Synchron> keycode 152
[16:17] <Synchron> Keycode 152 is a lockscreen key on Nokia N900
[16:19] <anonymous_> Anonymous
[16:19] <EriC^> Synchron: seems the button is called button 1xevxmodmap -e "keycode 152="
[16:20] <EriC^> nevermind
[16:20] <EriC^> Synchron: it seems the button is called button 3, but i dont think it would work
[16:20] <EriC^> xmodmap -e "keycode 152=button 3"
[16:20] <EriC^> you can try that but i dont think so
[16:22] <Synchron> ubuntu@Ubuntu-N900:~$ xmodmap -e "keycode 152=button 3"
[16:22] <Synchron> xmodmap: commandline:1: bad keysym name 'button' in keysym list
[16:22] <Synchron> xmodmap: 1 error encountered, aborting.
[16:22] <Synchron> Unlucky..
[16:22] <pgunnars> ls
[16:24] <EriC^> http://askubuntu.com/questions/17054/how-to-use-keyboard-keys-as-mouse-buttons
[16:24] <EriC^> Synchron: ^
[16:25] <Synchron> Ok,I will have a look
[16:27] <Sramelyor3301> Hey guys I have a problem. I want to dual boot windows and ubuntu. I already have ubuntu on the system now how do I go about installing windows. Most of the websites show by starting off with a windows OS and installing ubuntu how do I go about by installing windows after having installed ubuntu 14/10
[16:27] <Sramelyor3301> *14.10
[16:28] <Sramelyor3301> Do I have to use gparted. If so how?
[16:29] <SchrodingersScat> Sramelyor3301: windows normally messes up the bootloader, so you have to go back and fix it. Otherwise afaik it should be the same, give it space to install to, watch it do wacky things, go back and fix grub from a liveusb
[16:29] <Sramelyor3301> I am sorry I didn't get u. How do I go about doing that.
[16:29] <Steven77> normally you go visa versa
[16:30] <Sramelyor3301> Yes. But now I am stuck
[16:30] <Steven77> first windows then linux
[16:30] <Earlo> Steven77, Vice versa
[16:30] <Steven77> or follow the lead form SchrodingersScat
[16:31] <Sramelyor3301> I don't seem to be able to download windows 8 iso but I have a installation media. Problem is virtualbox just doesn't accept or read my usb media hence the problem. So I decided to go with dual booting
[16:31] <Steven77> yes Earlo pardon my french ;)
[16:32] <EriC^> Sramelyor3301: try making an .iso of the installation media
[16:32] <Sramelyor3301> I did
[16:32] <Sramelyor3301> I tried
[16:32] <Sramelyor3301> but virtualbox isn't accepting that either
[16:32] <EriC^> what did you do?
[16:32] <Earlo> Steven77, Sorry for grammar nazi, but visa versa sends pings me, since i have set my client to notify if someone says visa
[16:32] <EriC^> sudo dd if=/dev/sdX or sdxY ?
[16:33] <Sramelyor3301> idk which one exactly but it was something like that. It took a very long time. Made the iso from the usb. Tried booting up the virtual machine. Blank with some error message
[16:34] <Steven77> ok si Sramelyor3301 what exactly i you trying to pull ?
[16:34] <Steven77> you have a system with ubuntu on it ?
[16:34] <jamie_> teknotus: was it you that was helping me last night with the messed up upgrade
[16:35] <Sramelyor3301> yes. I have ubuntu utopic unicorn
[16:35] <Steven77> ok , so download gparted to make some space for windows
[16:35] <Sramelyor3301> I want to install windows.
[16:35] <Sramelyor3301> I have gparted
[16:35] <Sramelyor3301> But I have no clue as to how to use it
[16:35] <Steven77> then create space ( like 60GB ) for windows
[16:35] <Sramelyor3301> Last time I used it it caused grub to fail
[16:36] <Sramelyor3301> Steven77 can u instead help me in making a virtual machine
[16:36] <Sramelyor3301> I would like that rather than dual booting
[16:36] <Steven77> download and install virtualbox , download or copy a windows iso to ubuntu
[16:37] <Sramelyor3301> I don't have a copy of windows 8
[16:37] <Steven77> create a windows virtual machine with that iso
[16:37] <Sramelyor3301> i have windows 8 installation media on usb
[16:37] <Steven77> what do you have then ? a dvd ?
[16:37] <TandyUK> hey guys, im trying to create a user with a custom homedir, /data/Backups/Topclass.. I have created the folder, addd the user, chown'd the folder, but when the user ssh's in, im getting "Could not chdir to home directory /data/Backups/Topclass: Permission denied"
[16:37] <Steven77> but not an iso ?
[16:37] <Sramelyor3301> no
[16:37] <Sramelyor3301> no iso
[16:37] <Sramelyor3301> :(
[16:37] <TandyUK> Im guessing the problem is with the permissions on the parent path
[16:37] <hidden> anyone know how i could sync my computers time with a remote web servers time? like an apache servers
[16:38] <Steven77> where did you get the usb ?
[16:38] <ioria> Sramelyor3301, i'm sure you can find some win iso somewhere ... :-P
[16:39] <Sramelyor3301> I am searching problem is I can't find windows 8 iso. I can find only winodws 8.1 iso
[16:39] <Sramelyor3301> I have the key only for windows 8 not 8.1
[16:39] <Steven77> then take 8.1
[16:39] <Steven77> it's a virtual machine ,
[16:39] <Steven77> hack the damn thing it's sandboxed
[16:39] <Sramelyor3301> I can't. 8.1 requires key but won't accept the 8 key
[16:39] <TandyUK> parent permissons: /data 777 james:users, /data/Backups 770 guests:users, /data/Backups/Topclass 775 karl:karl
[16:40] <Sramelyor3301> I am a newbie bro. Sadly I have no clue as to how I can ahck
[16:40] <Steven77> the installer asks a key during installation <?
[16:40] <Sramelyor3301> yup
[16:40] <Steven77> get another iso :)
[16:40] <Steven77> why the heck do you wan't windows anyway ?
[16:40] <ioria> Sramelyor3301, if I may ... why win 8 ? 7 is quite good
[16:40] <EriC^> Sramelyor3301: is it a windows cd
[16:40] <EriC^> ?
[16:40] <Steven77> nope EriC^
[16:41] <EriC^> usb?
[16:41] <Steven77> it's a usb but not with an iso
[16:41] <Steven77> dd stuff
[16:41] <Sramelyor3301> lol. Okay btw Steven77 the only reason I want windows so badly is because I am not able to edit my pdf files. I can't edit or higlight any of the pdf files and pdf is really and important part when it comes to my college work. It keeps telling that I can't highlight but with windows I can use the latest acrobat and higlight and edit pdf files easily
[16:42] <jwash> hi everyone, i have a screen problem where after 10 min it goes black. is there a way to permanently fix it? I'm using XFCE.
[16:43] <Steven77> install acroread then
[16:43] <Sramelyor3301> Sounds like a very stupid reason to shift but I don't know of any way for me to perform half of the edits on ubuntu with such old version of adobe acrobat
[16:43] <Sramelyor3301> I did. Adobe reader 9. No possible way to perform any actions
[16:43] <Steven77> there should be a ppa with the new version
[16:44] <Sramelyor3301> I don't seem to be able to find one
[16:44] <Sramelyor3301> I searched and found nothing. They came out with some Acrobat DC and it doesn't support linux at all
[16:45] <Sramelyor3301> Is there any other way to donwload and install the latest version of acrobat??
[16:45] <ioria> Sramelyor3301, wine maybe
[16:45] <OerHeks> libreoffice can edit pdf
[16:45] <Steven77> yes there is , learn linux , install arch and proceed :)
[16:46] <Sramelyor3301> Can it?
[16:46] <Sramelyor3301> oh
[16:46] <OerHeks> open with ..
[16:46] <Sramelyor3301> I uninstalled libreofice and installed open office instead
[16:46] <Steven77> sure install Antergos and install acrobat reader 11
[16:46] <Sramelyor3301> antergos??
[16:46] <Steven77> google it
[16:47] <OerHeks> grinn don't try openoffice
[16:47] <Sramelyor3301> why is that?
[16:47] <Steven77> install that virtual , and go from there
[16:48] <Steven77> problem solved , no need for windows
[16:49] <Sramelyor3301> i will try that tnx :) Btw 0erHeks the only reason I shifted to openoffice is because I wasn't able to get libre office to check my spellings properly
[16:56] <Sramelyor3301> sudo add-apt-repository "deb http://archive.canonical.com/ precise partner" <- How do I go about removing that repository??
[16:56] <Steven77> software center ?
[16:56] <OerHeks> !ppapurge
[16:57] <Steven77> or just go to software center and mark/unmark ppa's
[16:57] <OerHeks> are you on precise?
[16:57] <Sramelyor3301> I know about pps purge but what do I type in the ppa:<repository-name>/subdirectory??
[16:57] <Sramelyor3301> no utopic
[16:58] <flipapy> is there a command for an oficially supported theme like radiance and ambiance that's not as unattractive as high contrast? im having touble seeing the little scroll bars for my apps and webpages
[16:58] <OerHeks> oh then unmark it and delete that entry
[16:58] <Sramelyor3301> unmark where?
[16:58] <Sramelyor3301> software centre?
[16:58] <OerHeks> softwarecenter> edit > sources
[16:58] <OerHeks> or type sources in the dash
[16:59] <OerHeks> as that repo couldn't give any install candidates, no harm is done. so ppa-purge would do nothing more than sources menu could do.
[16:59] <Merah> 0
[17:00] <Amy_Lu_Who> i need to install java and i tried the turorial but had trouble. please help.
[17:01] <OerHeks> Amy_Lu_Who, what tutorial? our wiki is pretty simple
[17:01] <OerHeks> !java
[17:01] <ChunkzZ> y'know the "startup disk creator in Ubuntu 14.10 - is that for Linux OS's only?
[17:01] <Amy_Lu_Who> the one from Java
[17:01] <Amy_Lu_Who> where is ours?
[17:02] <OerHeks> ChunkzZ, yes
[17:02] <Sramelyor3301> 0erHeks -> deb http://archive.canonical.com/ precise partner I hwav no clue what cource has this added. ow do I know specificlaly which one of the sources belongs to this line?
[17:02] <ChunkzZ> OerHeks, okay, linux mint which is based off ubuntu has a "usb image writer" but I can't find it? is special to mint or?
[17:02] <Amy_Lu_Who> OerHeks, where is "our" tutorial for Java?
[17:03] <OerHeks> Amy_Lu_Who, see the message of ubottu
[17:03] <OerHeks> ChunkzZ, maybe mint hasn't got it installed standard, and this channel doesn't support mint.
[17:03] <OerHeks> they have their own issues.
[17:07] <ChunkzZ> OerHeks, sorted it, thanks.
[17:22] <New_User_ubuntu> Dear All
[17:22] <New_User_ubuntu> the OS is constantly rebooting
[17:22] <New_User_ubuntu> I am not even able to see the logs
[17:22] <New_User_ubuntu> any idea what issue it could be
[17:23] <New_User_ubuntu> its a fresh installation with cloudera software on it
[17:23] <skinux> I don't suppose it's possible to add feature to Terminal to post a portion of current buffer to a paste site??
[17:27] <simplisity> Hi.. is kernel.ubuntu.com having a planned outage? If so, are there any mirrors? Couldn't seem to find them on google
[17:29] <Joel> Does anyone have this working on 14.04? Config changes don't seem to take affect: http://www.webupd8.org/2014/04/configurable-notification-bubbles-for.html
[17:30] <Pici> simplisity: hmm.. let me see if I can poke someone about it
[17:31] <simplisity> Pici, ok thank you
[17:36] <Joel> dpkg -l isn't printing me a full version, thoughts?
[17:37] <ZeloZelos> how do i turn off the fading animations and other extra effects
[17:40] <Sbur> Am I the only one having problems with 3.16.0-34?
[17:41] <ZeloZelos> can i still install xfce and use it instead of unity?
[17:43] <TheNumb> ZeloZelos: of course you can.
[17:44] <ZeloZelos> sudo apt-get install xfce?
[17:44] <simplisity> ZeloZelos, not sure if you tried xubuntu, but a lot of people like it
[17:44] <TheNumb> ZeloZelos: if you install xubuntu-desktop you'll get the set of packages :)
[17:44] <OerHeks> !info xubuntu-desktop
[17:44] <Guest34416> Hi, guys, I'm using linux lite, and no one is over on that channel. I just did an update. Does auto clean clear out the old stuff and keep the new? How do I clean out the old?
[17:44] <TheNumb> ZeloZelos: unless you want to install xfce only.
[17:45] <ZeloZelos> it took soo long to finally get ubuntu installed, i just want to switch the desktop to xfce
[17:45] <TheNumb> Guest34416: the old packages are replaced by the new ones.
[17:45] <TheNumb> Guest34416: no need to clean anything :)
[17:46] <emash> is there an easy way to make mbr partitioned usb pendrive ubuntu bootable in efi?
[17:46] <Guest34416> well, my question is, that when I use bleachbit and check the autoclean after updating, it gets rid of quite a few mbs. I hope it's erasing the old.
[17:46] <k1l> Guest34416: no need for bleachbit
[17:47] <k1l> Guest34416: you can use "sudo apt-get autoremove && sudo apt-get autoclean"
[17:47] <k1l> Guest34416: and for the future: if you want support use a distro that offers support.
[17:48] <Guest34416> ok thanks ya
[17:49] <ZeloZelos> i think that if i was to turn off all the extra effects (windows fading in and out, animations etc) it probably would be all right, but i cant seem to find the option to do so...how do i do this?
[17:53] <karen_> Hi, don't you think bleachbit is a good thing? It appears like it sees and cleans a lot of stuff. What do you think about that?
[17:55] <k1l> karen_: i dont believe in programs that do some magic and tune your system. if the program considers some data not to be removed i dont think its wise to let bleachbit remove that data. for the package-managment you can use the apt-get commmands i just named
[17:55] <karen_> ya thank you! I did that, and it didn't seem to erase anything, so I guess I'm good.
[17:55] <Sbur> Hello. I just updated to kernel 3.16.0-34 and am having resolution problems. The only resolution it gives me is 640x480, although I have a 22 inch screen and can do even 1920x1024
[17:56] <cvetan> HexChat: 2.10.2 ** OS: Linux 3.13.0-49-generic x86_64 ** Distro: Ubuntu "precise" 12.04 ** CPU: 4 x Intel(R) Core(TM) i5-2320 CPU @ 3.00GHz (GenuineIntel) @ 1,60GHz ** RAM: Physical: 7,7GiB, 83,2% free ** Disk: Total: 363,8GiB, 63,1% free ** VGA: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD/ATI] Caicos [Radeon HD 6450/7450/8450] ** Sound: HDA-Intel - HDA Intel PCH1: HDA-Intel - HDA ATI HDMI ** Ethernet: Realtek
[17:56] <cvetan> Semiconductor Co., Ltd. CIe Gigabit Ethernet ** Uptime: 3h 49m 46s **
[17:56] <cvetan> sorry guys, accidently.
[17:56] <cvetan> :)
[17:56] <compdoc_> thank you for all that information
[17:57] <cvetan> just going through options in hexchat.
[17:57] <Sbur> And, if I'm able to ask these questions, I am using a previous kernel, as 3.16.0-34 doesn't permit me to connect to the internet
[18:00] <Maimster> Jesus, I gotta get a client installed.
[18:00] <amahoola> hello
[18:00] <ZeloZelos> what's he got to do with it ;)
[18:01] <amahoola> does somebody know how scopecreator works?
[18:03] <ZeloZelos> found this amahoola http://chrismwayne.com/?p=277
[18:07] <amahoola> ZeloZelos, yeah i used that tutorial and something didn; t seem to work. but i think it has to do with a missing kit
[18:08] <guest9> error n375
[18:14] <stacks88> just installed ubuntu server 14.04.2. it has ssh on it thats it. i saw in /etc/ssh/sshd_config it says PermitRootLogin without-password which is great. I then saw how it says #AuthorizedKeysFile %/.ssh/authorized_keys which is commented out... Yet i was still able to go to /root/ and mkdir .ssh and then create a authorized_keys file and put in my public key for my computer at home , and i am
[18:14] <stacks88> now able to ssh -l root IP and log in without a password.. How is this possible if its commented out in the sshd_config ?
[18:16] <stacks88> I think whats happening is, its by default %/.ssh/authorized_keys , and if you want it to be something ELSE, then you uncomment it out and define it
[18:16] <stacks88> that must be it
[18:17] <stacks88> so is this the right procedure i should be following with my servers: To always login as a user, then sudo -i to become root -- and never define a root password ? and keep ssh as root to without-password ? like is this the right philsophy i should be having
[18:18] <stacks88> cause i still enjoy being root or, not having to constantly put sudo before everything
[18:19] <Ali_> Hi
[18:19] <treelzebub> stacks88: specifying a root password breaks a fundamental convention of all unix-like platforms. probe shouldn't ;)
[18:19] <daftykins> stacks88: i would not permit root login at all, indeed, then use the standard user to connect in then yes 'sudo -i' as you say
[18:19] <ifohancroft> Hello guys. I am using Kubuntu 14.10 x86_64 and I have just installed the Ubuntu Software Center. Why can't I see apps in it that I can see in https://apps.ubuntu.com? I have enabled the Canonical repo. Also why does it seem like every game that is purchasable is for at most Ubuntu 14.04?
[18:19] <Ali_> I have a question about probabilistic language can I ask it here?
[18:19] <stacks88> thank you guys
[18:20] <treelzebub> excellent question, though!
[18:20] <ifohancroft> Are there any changes made about that in 14.10? Like no more purchasable stuff or something
[18:20] <Maimster> stacks88: Very dangerous way to use UNIX based systems.
[18:20] <daftykins> Ali_: doesn't sound like Ubuntu support to me
[18:20] <stacks88> Maimster what is dangerous? to login as a user, sudo -i and not have a root password ?
[18:20] <Maimster> stacks88: Using root via ssh without the password.
[18:21] <Maimster> stacks88: If the box doesn't have Internet access then might be okay. Just be careful.
[18:21] <stacks88> oh i see what ur talking about, the earlier post, where i mentioned ssh'ing in as root
[18:21] <stacks88> yea ill just login as a user only
[18:21] <Maimster> stacks88: Yeah.
[18:21] <ssboy> Hi
[18:21] <stacks88> ok cool thx
[18:21] <Roky> Afternoon all.
[18:22] <ssboy> Are there somebody here
[18:22] <EugeneBandit> Hello! http://kernel.ubuntu.com/~kernel-ppa/mainline/ seems to be down from my computer. Is it normal ?
[18:22] <ssboy> ??
[18:22] <Maimster> stacks88: Gaining root access should be a pain in the assets.
[18:22] <Pici> EugeneBandit: Yes, canonical is working on it.
[18:22] <Maimster> stacks88: :o)
[18:23] <EugeneBandit> Pici, okay thanks! do you know somewhere else i could find the .deb?
[18:23] <ifohancroft> Let me rephrase my question: Why is nothing I find in the Ubuntu apps center available for Ubuntu 14.10?
[18:24] <Pici> EugeneBandit: I'm unaware of a mirror, sorry.
[18:24] <ifohancroft> In Available Versions on the site, at most it says 14.04
[18:24] <EugeneBandit> Pici, thanks anyway :)
[18:28] <ifohancroft> Is there a netsplit going on or something?
[18:32] <newhoa> Hey, I am wanting to format a drive to exFAT. I have exfat-fuse and exfat-utils both installed (I even upgraded them to the vivid packages), but it won't give me the exFAT option in gnome-disks (it's not an option) or gparted (it's greyed out).
[18:32] <newhoa> Anyone have any idea what's going on? I'd really appreciate some ideas!
[18:33] <DJones> newhoa: It might be and good idea to ask that question in #ubunt+1 vivid isn't supported here until official release, so the people in that channel who've been testing it will probably be better to suggest solutions
[18:34] <DJones> #ubuntu+1
[18:34] <ifohancroft> Guys why does the software center in 14.10 does not show buyable applications? There are like only two and when I go to the ubuntu apps directory there is no 14.10 as available version?
[18:36] <newhoa> Ok, I'm using Utopic, I just tried those two vivid packages for testing, but the problem is also with the Utopic packages on a Utopic system.
[18:39] <OerHeks> newhoa, You have to create a GPT partition table AFAIK
[18:39] <home> please help me to fix this error
[18:39] <home> checking for rst2html... no
[18:39] <home> checking for rst2html.py... no
[18:39] <home> configure: error: Documentation enabled but rst2html not found.
[18:41] <DJones> home: Looking at the ubuntu packages, that isn't listed as an available package, where are you trying to get that
[18:42] <home> i am trying to compile geany
[18:42] <TheNumb> home: apt-get build-depends geany
[18:42] <TheNumb> err
[18:42] <TheNumb> build-dep
[18:43] <TheNumb> Haven't used ubuntu in a while :<
[18:43] <DJones> home: Ah ok, would sudo apt-get install geany not install it without having to compile?
[18:43] <TheNumb> DJones: he's trying to modify something.
[18:44] <TheNumb> Since yesterday ;p
[18:44] <ZeloZelos> sigh, the wireless connection is connected, i know the internet through the wireless modem is conneted/working, i am using it right now...but freash install will not get updates. tried selecting best server and says no suitable download server was found...waht do I do now?
[18:44] <DJones> home: Good luck, I'm afraid its not something I can help with
[18:44] <home> but the geany of that of repository has loot of bug
[18:45] <home> manyplugins were outdated
[18:46] <home> anyone please
[18:46] <goeranh> what?
[18:46] <home> help
[18:47] <goeranh> with what?
[18:47] <home> checking for rst2html... no
[18:47] <home> checking for rst2html.py... no
[18:47] <newhoa> Using gpt didn't help.
[18:47] <TheNumb> home: apt-get build-dep geany should be enough...
[18:47] <home> configure: error: Documentation enabled but rst2html not found.
[18:47] <TheNumb> ;x
[18:47] <n0h> a
[18:47] <TheNumb> !info rst2html
[18:47] <TheNumb> hmm
[18:48] <TheNumb> home: rst2html is provided by python-docutils
[18:48] <home> ohh
[18:48] <mekhami> I am on OS X, I need to make an Ubuntu USB Loader so i can take it home to my desktop and load it up there
[18:48] <home> so how should i get it
[18:48] <newhoa> I did manage to use msdos, create a fat32 partition using gparted, then use sudo mkfs.exfat /dev/sdXX
[18:48] <TheNumb> home: install it?
[18:48] <mekhami> I don't want to dual boot ubuntu on os x or anything, i just want to create the boot loader on my usb drive
[18:49] <newhoa> And that worked... but exfat doesn't work in gparted or gnome-disks.
[18:49] <home> no
[18:49] <n0h> ?help
[18:49] <n0h> leave
[18:49] <TheNumb> newhoa: did you install exfat-utils?
[18:51] <newhoa> Yeah, exfat-fuse and exfat-utils are both installed.
[18:51] <home> so how should i get it
[18:51] <newhoa> If anyone else could check real quick and see if the option to format exFAT is greyed out in gparted and missing in gnome-disks, I would really appreciate it. I'd like to file a bug report but it would be nice to see if other people have the same problem.
[18:53] <mekhami> how do i make an ubuntu usb boot loader on os x?
[18:54] <hger> bonsoir y'a til un linuxien pro pour me venir en aide
[18:54] * nunoh sracthes his nose
[18:55] <DJones> mekhami: Hope this helps https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/FromUSBStick#Creating_a_bootable_Ubuntu_USB_flash_drive_from_Mac_OSX
[18:55] <BluesKaj> mekhami, what are you trying to accomplish with the bootloader /grub ?
[18:55] <MonkeyDust> mekhami i'm sure the people in a mac os channel know how mac os works
[18:55] <stanmcm> Hello! I'm trying to help a friend with a compromised system. It's a hosted webserver, so I'm working remotely. I want to make a complete backup before doing anything else. I'm wondering if the backup script in the server manual is good enough. Any thoughts?
[18:55] <mekhami> MonkeyDust, I''m glad you felt the need to say that out loud.
[18:56] <DJones> !fr | hger
[18:56] <home> can please anyone tell me how I am going to get the "rst2html"
[18:56] <BluesKaj> mekhami, did you see my post above ?
[18:57] <ZeloZelos> i'm about to give up on this pos machine
[18:57] <mekhami> BluesKaj i'm on my Macbook, I want to create the usb loader so I can use it on my desktop at home which is not functioning
[18:58] <DJones> mekhami: Have you checked out ubottu's link
[18:58] <hger> thanks
[18:58] <ZeloZelos> i really wanted to do something nice for someone that is somehow more needy then us but it has been a month and finally i got linux to run and able to see, now it won't update, load a webpage, and the stupid effects are bogging it ;(
[18:59] <Es0teric> when using the nice command, what is the highest number you can use
[18:59] <DJones> !mac | mekhami
[18:59] <mekhami> DJones i'm running through it now, I originally ignored it because I didn't want to run ubuntu ON My mac, which is what i originally saw as the intent
[18:59] <Es0teric> for priority
[18:59] <mekhami> DJones like I said, don't want to run on my mac, jus tlooking to create the boot loader from my mac
[18:59] <BluesKaj> and what OS on your desktop at home, mekhami?
[18:59] <ZeloZelos> not to mention 10dvd disks/coasters while trying to figure out why i couldnt see anything
[18:59] <mekhami> BluesKaj effectively nothing
[19:00] <home> ubuntu 14.10 64-bit
[19:01] <BluesKaj> mekhami, then why not install ubuntu on the usb stick and use it to boot your home pc , you can always install grub from the live-usb
[19:01] <DJones> mekhami: Please see my original reply
[19:01] <DJones> 19:54 < DJones> mekhami: Hope this helps
[19:01] <DJones> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/FromUSBStick#Creating_a_bootable_Ubuntu_USB_flash_drive_from_Mac_OSX
[19:01] <mekhami> BluesKaj that's exactly what i'm trying to do
[19:01] <OerHeks> home, does this hint not work?? <TheNumb> home: apt-get build-dep geany should be enough...
[19:02] <mekhami> DJones it's helping so far :)
[19:02] <home> unfortunately no
[19:02] <ZeloZelos> how does it do that, show that it is connected to the router, but no internet at all??? this one is connected, and fully operates with no issues on the same router via the same type of connection
[19:02] <bekks> Can you define "no internet at all"? How do you try?
[19:03] <ZeloZelos> apt-get update, update manager, firefox umm..
[19:04] <ZeloZelos> none will connect, even tried the select best server thing for updates n stuff..it would not even find one
[19:04] <ZeloZelos> it looks like a dns issue, but on the machine i am using for help i have no issues whatsoever
[19:05] <Wug> I asked this question a while ago and I'm hoping for second opinions
[19:05] <ZeloZelos> the only guess i have is that it is an unsecured wireless network? would that be the fault?
[19:05] <Wug> it has a number of sub-questions that I will ask as I get to them
[19:05] <Wug> What I'm trying to do is run a remote X server and a local X server that display the same content. is this possible
[19:05] <OerHeks> home, seems to come from docutils http://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/trusty/man1/rst2html.1.html
[19:06] <Wug> I'm not a huge fan of VNC, in my experience it only performs acceptably over a lan
[19:07] <OerHeks> !find python-docutils
[19:07] <ZeloZelos> the wireless reciever is a netgear wg111v2 if that helps at all
[19:07] <Wug> I have looked at xdmx, but it does not seem obviously useful in this regar
[19:07] <Wug> sub-question: how do I list all of the displays on a machine?
[19:08] <Wug> when I ssh into one machine with X forwarding, it usually gives me a display :10 or something like that
[19:08] <Wug> but I'm unable to actually find such a display listed anywhere
[19:08] <home> OerHeks: Thanks a lot
[19:08] <bekks> Wug: Displaying an application on another xserver is different from your original question.
[19:09] <Guest7123> :c
[19:09] <Wug> bekks: I know
[19:09] <ZeloZelos> Wug, did you google? http://superuser.com/questions/758463/getting-1920x1080-resolution-or-169-aspect-ratio-on-ubuntu-or-linux-mint
[19:09] <simplisity> looks like kernel.ubuntu.com is still down. Anyone have any ideas when that might be back up?
[19:09] <bekks> Wug: So why are you trying unrelated things then? :)
[19:09] <Wug> ZeloZelos: if my googling is supposed to lead me to that article, with a title completely not related at all to my question, than it's not surprising I missed it
[19:10] <ZeloZelos> hehe, you have an issue with aspect ratio/display dpi right?
[19:10] <OerHeks> simplisity, thanks, we already noticed that.
[19:10] <liveusb> Hi all, i am having trouble trying to add a new entry to grub (terminal access). the OS is a modification of ubuntu which loads a screen with 3 options, 2 of those are a game that starts right away and the 3rd is "quit". I have to install fraps on the computer so the game can be recorded (a child's game for a friend's project). The issue is that even in recovery mode accessing a terminal as root, it only gives me those 3 options, and
[19:10] <liveusb> no access to the terminal to run apt-get install. Here is bootinfoscript http://pastebin.com/c3sQP14K
[19:10] <Wug> ...no?
[19:10] <Pici> simplisity: not sure. I spoke with a Canonical sysadmin and they are at least aware of the problem.
[19:10] <Wug> maybe you mixed my question up with someone elses
[19:10] <ZeloZelos> i probably did ;)
[19:10] <Wug> bekks: what, I'm only allowed to ask one question?
[19:10] <simplisity> Pici, ok thanks
[19:11] <Wug> let me clarify my use case
[19:11] <simplisity> OerHeks, ok
[19:11] <Wug> I have a program running on a machine X, somehow
[19:11] <simplisity> OerHeks, Pici : are there any mirrors?
[19:11] <bekks> Wug: No one said that.
[19:11] <Wug> I am locally using the gui session on machine X, and am also connected via SSH + x forwarding to machine X via machine Y
[19:12] <Wug> locally, I am using display :0, and remotely, I'm using :10
[19:12] <Wug> I want to somehow perform some magic that allows me to make one display clone the other
[19:12] <Wug> so I see the program on both.
[19:13] <Wug> addendum: vnc is not ok.
[19:13] <bekks> Wug: Use nxclient/nxserver, in a version 4.x
[19:14] <Wug> nomachine appears to do the same thing vnc does
[19:14] <Wug> perhaps it's slightly better at it
[19:14] <liveusb> i can see the grub but it always takes me to those 3 options no matter what
[19:14] <liveusb> even excecuting chroot from liveusb
[19:16] <mchelen1> is there any way to refresh the list of available wifi networks?
[19:17] <shadytv> mchelen1: restart your networking service is the best way
[19:17] <Wug> why is it that from the remote session I can open programs on the local display but not the other way around
[19:18] <mchelen1> shadytv: hmm there is no other way? it sees many wifi networks just fine, but it won't detect a new network for some time if i just turned on the wifi router for example
[19:19] <bekks> Wug: Because the redirection works one way only.
[19:20] <OerHeks> mchelen1, turning on a wifirouter can take up to a minute to be active. maybe more.
[19:21] <CyberGabber> mchelen1: sudo iwlist wlan0 scan or sudo iwlist eth2 scan (my wifi card is eth2)
[19:21] <shadytv> mchelen1: sudo iwlist <your wireless interface> scan (Sorry I can't test this i'm on a wired windows machine ATM :( )
[19:21] <mchelen1> OerHeks: i know the network is there because i can see it from other devices
[19:22] <mchelen1> CyberGabber shadytv cool thanks
[19:26] <gms> came across a weird issue today - LTS 14.04 had rwxr-x--- on /media/joe-user - instead of the usual rwxr-xr-x - which obviously broke auto-mount-display-filemanager feature
[19:27] <gms> user of the system does not even know how to change permissions
[19:27] <MonkehParade> uhm, hi
[19:27] <gms> thus I am wondering how this could happen
[19:28] <mike802> http://mike802.blogspot.com/2013/08/educational-materials.html
[19:29] <shadytv> gms: anyway to reporduce the problem? what was the last thing you were doing? ect..
[19:29] <shadytv> MonkehParade: hi :)
[19:29] <MonkehParade> I have a question? :/
[19:30] <shadytv> MonkehParade: Fire away! let's see if we can help
[19:31] <gms> shadytv, not really - joe user certainly used the system as always, i.e. accepting all Ubuntu update messages, surfing via firefox, reading mails via thunderbird, occasionally inserting a usb stick etc.
[19:32] <MonkehParade> I'm trying to create a snapshot of my root so I can restore it after a clean install (in case I screw up while tinkering and learning). What do you propose I do?
[19:32] <OerHeks> !cloning
[19:33] <shadytv> MonkehParade: !cloning
[19:34] <in_deep_thought> I want to install the latest cmake on ubuntu 12. I run sudo apt-get update, apt-get install cmake, and it tells me its already the latest
[19:34] <bekks> in_deep_thought: On whoch Ubuntu 12?
[19:34] <in_deep_thought> but I think this is because its the latest for ubuntu 12.
[19:34] <in_deep_thought> 12.04
[19:34] <CyberGabber> or use 'generate package download script' from within Synaptic Package Manager...
[19:34] <bekks> !info cmake precise
[19:35] <in_deep_thought> how can I get the latest version - for trusty tahr?
[19:35] <in_deep_thought> and would it be compatible with ubuntu 12?
[19:35] <liveusb> Hi all, i am having trouble trying to add a new entry to grub (terminal access). the OS is a modification of ubuntu which loads a screen with 3 options, 2 of those are a game that starts right away and the 3rd is "quit". I have to install fraps on the computer so the game can be recorded (a child's game for a friend's project). The issue is that even in recovery mode accessing a terminal as root, it only gives me those 3 options, and
[19:35] <ifohancroft> Guys why does the software center in 14.10 does not show buyable applications? There are like only two and when I go to the ubuntu apps directory there is no 14.10 as available version?
[19:35] <bekks> in_deep_thought: you cannot mix packages from different releases.
[19:35] <OerHeks> MonkehParade, you could dd the partition with the live-iso https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DriveImaging
[19:36] <in_deep_thought> bekks: so I can’t install the latest cmake on 12?
[19:36] <bekks> in_deep_thought: you cannot install the cmake version for trusty on your precise.
[19:36] <MonkehParade> I came across links that told me to tar the root directory, do you think I should do that?
[19:36] <bekks> in_deep_thought: if you want the trusty version, upgrade to trusty first.
[19:36] <OerHeks> MonkehParade, that would be an option
[19:38] <dzan> Hi, I have some #include statements in my .Xdefaults, these don't get processed when X starts, only after later on manually doing 'xrdb .Xdefaults'; does anyone know how to fix this?
[19:38] <ifohancroft> dzan: Have you tried removing the #?
[19:38] <dzan> I'm guessing whereever Xdefaults is loaded it's done with -nocp leaving out preprocessor processing..
[19:38] <MonkehParade> OerHeks, but if it starts backing up the files in /media or /dev ? :/
[19:39] <dzan> ifohancroft: comments in .Xdefaults are with a bang :p
[19:39] <ifohancroft> ah ok, srry didn't knew that
[19:39] <dzan> no problem :-)
[19:41] <OerHeks> MonkehParade, never had trouble with duplicating partitions, /media/ etc is not active in that image, only on your live system
[19:42] <OerHeks> else take a look at clonezilla
[19:44] <MonkehParade> I think I'll go with clone-zilla.
[19:45] <Oggy> Hello
[19:46] <Oggy> Do i have to put linux on a disc before installing?
[19:46] <Oggy> Or can i directly run the downloaded file?
[19:47] <OerHeks> Oggy, on dvd or on usb.
[19:47] <daftykins> Oggy: from what OS? you need to put it on a DVD or USB flash drive ideally
[19:47] <Oggy> From windows
[19:48] <OerHeks> or memorycard.
[19:48] <MonkeyDust> Oggy yummi/yumi is a windows tool to create a bootable usb stick
[19:48] <Oggy> And can i install it onto an external drive then run it?
[19:48] <daftykins> external mechanical hard disk connected via USB?
[19:49] <Oggy> Yeah
[19:49] <daftykins> yes, but you'll need to pay attention during install else you'll be left with a bit of a mess
[19:49] <MonkeyDust> Oggy http://www.pendrivelinux.com/yumi-multiboot-usb-creator/
[19:50] <Oggy> So i have partitioned it on :Z, i can just install it there?
[19:50] <daftykins> ubuntu cannot use drive letters you've setup with Windows
[19:50] <Oggy> But when you are installing
[19:50] <Oggy> Can you install it on :Z, which is on a drive, then run it?
[19:51] <MonkeyDust> Oggy linux doesnt work with C: D: etc, it uses /dev/sda, /dev sda1 etc
[19:51] <Oggy> so how do i install on a partition
[19:51] <Oggy> If it is a :Z
[19:52] <MonkeyDust> Oggy create a bootbale dvd or usb, with yumi
[19:52] <Oggy> Ok will try
[19:52] <TheOGGisback> Hello
[19:53] <TheOGGisback> This is also oggy
[19:53] <JFlash> good afternoon
[19:53] <TheOGGisback> But on phone ;P
[19:53] <JFlash> my laptop stopped detecting the secondary screen (HTML) for no appearent reason
[19:53] <TheOGGisback> I guess I will try using yuri
[19:53] <daftykins> JFlash: HTML? or HDMI? :P
[19:54] <JFlash> I just tested with 2 monitors and cables
[19:54] <JFlash> HDMI, sorry
[19:54] <TheOGGisback> To make my drive bootable
[19:54] <JFlash> I also tried xrandr --auto
[19:54] <daftykins> TheOGGisback: my vote would be for Universal USB Installer from pendrivelinux.com - which is also where YUMI can be had.
[19:54] <JFlash> nothing shows up
[19:54] <TheOGGisback> Ok
[19:54] <TheOGGisback> Thanks for help
[19:54] <daftykins> JFlash: are you connecting it after boot, or powering up from being switched off - with the screens connected?
[19:55] <JFlash> daftykins, I tried both before and after boot
[19:55] <TheOGGisback> I would run only Linux but some games don't work on it
[19:55] <JFlash> is thre some sort of row back of system config on ubuntu or something
[19:55] <daftykins> JFlash: what graphics hardware does this laptop have? what driver is in use for it?
[19:55] <dimgs> Hello everybody, I would like to ask something about a new laptop and compatibility with Ubuntu. Could someone help me?
[19:55] <JFlash> this was working great in the morning
[19:56] <daftykins> dimgs: not until you ask the actual question
[19:56] <JFlash> its a 2015 model LG ultrabook
[19:56] <JFlash> probally and intell 4400
[19:56] <JFlash> this been working perfectly for 3 months
[19:56] <daftykins> JFlash: run "lspci | pastebinit"
[19:56] <dimgs> the laptop is here --> http://lenovoshop.gr/specs/DS_G50_ds_80G0018JGM.pdf
[19:57] <JFlash> no program pastebinit installed
[19:57] <daftykins> dimgs: you might have issues installing Linux on that, as it goes. it's also little better than a netbook in many ways
[19:57] <daftykins> JFlash: yeah, you need to install pastebinit
[19:59] <JFlash> http://paste.ubuntu.com/10828665/
[19:59] <OerHeks> JFlash, maybe your laptop have a FN key for monitor internal/external/both ?
[19:59] <daftykins> ok yep intel on-die with the haswell
[20:00] <JFlash> OerHeks, good point, but it's hardly improbable I taped it unwilling ly
[20:00] <JFlash> OerHeks, will check
[20:00] <daftykins> JFlash: "pastebinit /var/log/Xorg.0.log" might shed some light on what's up
[20:01] <dimgs> daftykins: do you mean issues with the drivers on it? graphics card, wireless card, sound card?
[20:01] <JFlash> http://paste.ubuntu.com/10828672/
[20:02] <daftykins> dimgs: no, general installation issues to do with EFI. windows 8 with bing complicates matters i think. the specification of that system is really terrible though, i don't think i'd want one for free :)
[20:03] <JFlash> any hints form the xorg?
[20:03] <JFlash> xorg log*
[20:03] <daftykins> oh i didn't see you posted it since you didn't highlight me
[20:03] <JFlash> sorry
[20:03] <daftykins> 14.10 huh?
[20:03] <JFlash> is that bad?
[20:03] <tworkin> is there any ppa for pyqt5 on ubuntu12.04?
[20:03] <daftykins> just confirming version
[20:04] <adrianita_18> hi
[20:04] <adrianita_18> iam programer
[20:04] <JFlash> i dont know my ubuntu version
[20:04] <JFlash> its pretty recent thou
[20:04] <adrianita_18> incest sex >> http://www.joserro1.5gbfree.com/?p=184
[20:04] <JFlash> trusty or up
[20:04] <daftykins> JFlash: "cat /etc/issue" - anyway that log is no use without one of these HDMI displays connected
[20:04] <daftykins> so if you could power off, plug one in, then boot up and repeat the pastebinit
[20:05] <JFlash> ok will do
[20:05] <dimgs> daftykins: I know that specs are terrible, but it is free of charge for me, so I am thinking about that...or something similar "bing" unfortunately
[20:07] <dimgs> daftykins: I think that a lightweight distro would be ok into Lenovo, or not?
[20:08] <daftykins> dimgs: like i say i don't even think you will be able to successfully install on that
[20:11] <muzy> Hi everyone, I noticed that kernel.ubuntu.com seems to be down (tested from multiple locations). Is this a known problem?
[20:12] <roky> @muzy Right now, yes.
[20:13] <OerHeks> muzy, thanks, the admins are aware.
[20:13] <JFlash> hi
[20:13] <JFlash> Im' back
[20:13] <JFlash> daftykins, http://paste.ubuntu.com/10828712/
[20:13] <muzy> roky, OerHeks: great, thanks!
[20:15] <daftykins> JFlash: hmm i see nothing about another display at all... "xrandr | pastebinit" ?
[20:15] <fiks> how would I zero out the first 1MB of a file, in place?
[20:16] <JFlash> daftykins, http://paste.ubuntu.com/10828726/
[20:16] <daftykins> JFlash: yeah no sign of anything else at all. confirm it's 14.10 with "cat /etc/issue" ?
[20:17] <TheNumb> lsb_release -d would also work
[20:17] <daftykins> yes i know this
[20:17] <JFlash> yes, 14.10
[20:18] <daftykins> JFlash: anything new come in if you run "sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade" ?
[20:18] <dimgs> daftykins: so, all laptops with Windows Bing are "locked"? I can't install any distro of Linux?
[20:18] <JFlash> daftykins, just curius, why updates would fix it, if it was working fine just a few hours ago?
[20:19] <daftykins> dimgs: i've read of issues with them is all
[20:19] <daftykins> JFlash: just check as a curiosity, it might offer a newer kernel. i suspect you may already be on a newer kernel which has caused this issue, if you have older ones you could try those
[20:19] <daftykins> JFlash: to be 100% certain... was it a TV or a monitor you just plugged in? was the display on during boot, sat awaiting input?
[20:20] <JFlash> btw was fiddling with virtual box this morning
[20:20] <JFlash> and then I had some problem which asked me to update a kernel
[20:20] <JFlash> net sure what kernel it was talking about
[20:20] <JFlash> not sure if it was virtualbox kernel it was talking about
[20:20] <JFlash> then I made this update
[20:21] <JFlash> but the computer has not been restarted btween the kernel update and the first occurence of the problem
[20:21] <bekks> Of which problem?
[20:21] <JFlash> bekks, it stopped detecting secondary screen
[20:21] <bekks> So did you restart?
[20:22] <splitwire> exit
[20:22] <splitwire> bye
[20:22] <JFlash> daftykins, TV
[20:22] <daftykins> but just before i asked you to power off and boot with the display connected?
[20:22] <JFlash> daftykins, I did try both TV and monitor a bit ago
[20:23] <daftykins> and was this TV switched on and tuned to the correct input channel when you made the log just above?
[20:23] <JFlash> daftykins, yes the display was waiting for input upon laptop boot
[20:23] <daftykins> did you look for key combo external monitor options as suggested earlier?
[20:24] <JFlash> yes i has some key like that
[20:24] <JFlash> pressing it yelds nothing
[20:25] <daftykins> JFlash: "ls /boot | pastebinit"
[20:25] <nightfuri> anyone why dmidecode wont work and gives this output ? # dmidecode 2.12 /dev/mem: No such file or directory
[20:26] <OerHeks> nightfuri, run it as root: sudo dmidecode
[20:26] <MonkeyDust> nightfuri try sudo dmidecode --type 4
[20:27] <nightfuri> i get the same thing running as root
[20:28] <JFlash> daftykins, http://paste.ubuntu.com/10828763/
[20:28] <OerHeks> nightfuri, is this in a VM ?
[20:29] <nightfuri> OerHeks: no. but i got the kernel 4.0 recently.
[20:29] <daftykins> JFlash: try booting an older kernel. hold left shift at boot time, go to advanced options, try each one
[20:29] <vlt> Hello. I just installed Ubuntu 14.04 LTS. How can I add my audio device to the list of available devices? It is listed in `aplay -L` and appears also as selection in alsamixer (F6) but not as output device in the audio settings dialog. Any idea how to activate it? (It worked on 13.10 and several other systems (w/o pulse) before.)
[20:29] <daftykins> JFlash: but your logs suggest to me that a display was never connected
[20:30] <OerHeks> nightfuri, oh, own kernel, then i can´ t help you
[20:31] <nightfuri> OerHeks: thank you
[20:31] <OerHeks> tubejockey, 1000th visit today, hi
[20:33] <JFlash> sorry guys in meeting right now
[20:34] <daftykins> er, ok
[20:34] <nightfuri> OerHeks: i dont think so its own kernel. i got it from .deb files
[20:34] <OerHeks> nightfuri, you better check out #ubuntu+1 for vivid channel
[20:35] <daftykins> nightfuri: the point is you're using an unsupported configuration and so can't seek support here :)
[20:35] <nightfuri> oh ok thank you gusy OerHeks daftykins
[20:39] <realityphantom> There is nothing like hardcore pegging now is there?
[20:40] <tgm4883> uh
[20:41] <realityphantom> wrong channel, so sorry
[20:42] * ObrienDave did not want to know anyway ;p
[20:43] <grkvlt> hi. wondering what the status of kernel.ubuntu.com is?
[20:44] <grkvlt> i can't connect from anywhere i try, so kernel updates fail ;(
[20:44] <nightfuri> whats the off topic channel ?
[20:44] <daftykins> !ot
[20:44] <ObrienDave> grkvlt, use dist-upgrade for kernel updates
[20:45] <ObrienDave> grkvlt, sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[20:45] <ObrienDave> grkvlt, sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[20:47] <grkvlt> that won't get me 3.19.3 though, will it?
[20:48] <ObrienDave> no
[20:48] <grkvlt> i need 3.18 or higher for docker overlay storage driver to work...
[20:49] <ObrienDave> http://ubuntuhandbook.org/index.php/2015/03/upgrade-kernel-3-19-3-ubuntulinux-mint/
[20:50] <grkvlt> "download and install the packages below in turn [...] from the kernel.ubuntu.com"
[20:50] <grkvlt> i know *how* to upgrade
[20:50] <grkvlt> but, kernel.ubuntu.com is down
[20:51] <ObrienDave> that's possible
[20:51] <daftykins> doing that isn't even supported, grkvlt - what are you trying to achieve?
[20:51] <grkvlt> so was wondering if there was a status page, maybe its scheduled maint?
[20:51] <Pici> grkvlt: I know that Canonical is aware of the outage, I didn't see an ETA on a fix though.
[20:51] <MonkeyDust> grkvlt it's down, can't reach it either
[20:51] <grkvlt> what, kernel.ubuntu.com is not supported as a way of getting kernels for Ubuntu?
[20:51] <ObrienDave> https://www.kernel.org/
[20:52] <MonkeyDust> grkvlt guess we'll soon learn what causes it
[20:52] <ObrienDave> grkvlt, obviously there's a problem with the website. sheesh
[20:52] <grkvlt> heh, ok. am just surprised there isn't a status page...?
[20:52] <JFlash> daftykins, back
[20:52] <mojtaba> Hi, Do you know how can I enable error detection in writer?
[20:53] <JFlash> daftykins, it's a real mistery, why would it stop working
[20:53] <JFlash> daftykins, is there some way that I can know
[20:53] <JFlash> daftykins, which updates I may have done to my system recently?
[20:54] <daftykins> JFlash: be nice if you could join all those messages into one :) try an older kernel as i suggested earlier
[20:56] <Jekferro> ciao
[20:57] <marianne> hi, someone was on here the other day and he said he had flixster working through firefox and 14.04
[20:58] <JFlash> daftykins, I just plugged a raspberry pi to the tv with the same cable
[20:58] <area51pilot> is http://kernel.ubuntu.com/~kernel-ppa/mainline/ down for everyone?
[20:58] <Bashing-om> JFlash: For the log of what the update process did -> cat /var/log/dpkg.log .
[20:58] <JFlash> daftykins, so that's proof that the laptop is to blame :(
[20:59] <JFlash> Bashing-om, thanks will check
[21:01] <vlt> vlt: Read the syslog messages about xhci_hcd errors and then plug the device into a non-blue USB port. -- vlt: Aah, thanks! That worked mysteriously.
[21:01] <OerHeks> marianne, try chrome, as it supports netflix too
[21:02] <JFlash> daftykins, could this be of help? http://pastebin.com/ZatXiBMN
[21:02] <daftykins> JFlash: did you do what i suggested yet?
[21:02] <Iw43> hello ubuntu users, in one of ubuntu machines the screen is nicely shining bright white, while in the other it is yellowish dim..the two screens have different resolutions, is it the reason for it?
[21:03] <JFlash> daftykins, well I want to avoid rolling back to older kernel
[21:03] <Iw43> the brightness settings of the two are the same
[21:03] <JFlash> daftykins, isnt that like some sort of last resort?
[21:03] <daftykins> Iw43: different screens have different colour reproduction, if that's what you're asking
[21:03] <daftykins> JFlash: just. try. it.
[21:04] <marianne> OerHeks: just keeps loading, nothing plays, no error message?
[21:04] <Iw43> daftykins, I dont know if that's what i am asking. but one is not as bright as the other, in general, actually, quite dim in comparison
[21:04] <daftykins> Iw43: i take it they're different makes + models? not identical?
[21:04] <Iw43> daftykins, same make, but different model
[21:04] <daftykins> yeah so not really an ubuntu issue
[21:05] <Iw43> but same ubuntu version
[21:05] <vlt> Iw43: Different model. That’s enough reason ;-)
[21:05] <Iw43> is it because the resolutions are different?
[21:05] <vlt> Iw43: Try two identical and come back if they show veeery different brightness.
[21:06] <vlt> Iw43: No, it’s because they are two different models.
[21:06] <daftykins> as long as the displays are using the native screen resolution, that's all you can do
[21:06] <daftykins> unless someone has messed with the OSD settings
[21:06] <Iw43> ok, thank you both for your information.
[21:08] <marianne> OerHeks: do i need any extensions or addins?
[21:09] <OerHeks> marianne, i don't know, chrome was my last resort, i read ". Please Note: At this time Linux OS is not supported for Streaming or Download."on their site.
[21:10] <marianne> OerHeks: well crap on a cracker... guess I'll just have to live with HBOGo
[21:12] <OerHeks> marianne, it surely plays on that chromecast hdmi stick http://www.google.com/chrome/devices/chromecast/apps.html#?view=search
[21:13] <marianne> OerHeks: how much will one of those set me back
[21:14] <daftykins> marianne: we don't know where you are in the world - and we're not a Google shop :)
[21:14] <marianne> daftykins: I know, I realized how stupid that was after i hit enter
[21:15] <daftykins> ;]
[21:15] <perpetualdelaype> hello, does Ubuntu have an official suggestion/ bug mention place?
[21:15] <OerHeks> marianne, if you open chrome > appstore, there is a app for it: Version: 1.0.0 Updated: March 12, 2015
[21:15] <elacheche_anis> Guys! Is there a public infrastructure team where we can contribute?
[21:16] <elacheche_anis> perpetualdelaype, you're lookign for launchpad.net :)
[21:16] <JFlash> daftykins, I just tried all the kernels that were listed ,23 up to ,32 and one of the recovery modes
[21:16] <JFlash> daftykins, nothing so far
[21:16] <MonkeyDust> !contribute | elacheche_anis
[21:16] <OerHeks> perpetualdelaype, sure, launchpad
[21:16] <OerHeks> !bug
[21:16] <kokut> Hello, anyone knows how to change/remove a key-binding from cmus?
[21:16] <perpetualdelaype> thanks elecheche_anis
[21:18] <vlt> Hello. After installing Ubuntu 14.04 on an empty new disk the swap partition is not swap-on’ed. There’s a line in /etc/fstab pointing to a luks device and a corresponding line in /etc/crypttab but no device in /dev/mapper. What happened? How to fix this?
[21:18] <elacheche_anis> yeah MonkeyDust, there is all types of contribution right there, but IT ones :( I think that's a "right" for canonical's sysadmins.. :/ I don't like to go and contribute to Fedora Infrastructure Team x)
[21:18] <marianne> OerHeks: thanks I'll take a look right now
[21:34] <rgb247> I have a VPS, I cannot ping/curl any https website. How can I solve that?
[21:36] <lancaster> i need to copy a wordpress folder by sftp, local folder is public and target folder is public_html
[21:36] <hkrrsx> rgb247: Make sure port 443 is open on your firewall
[21:36] <lancaster> how is the command?
[21:36] <hkrrsx> It might not be by default
[21:39] <rgb247> hkrrsx: can you tell me how to open it please? it is blocked by iptables?
[21:39] <hkrrsx> rgb247: Are you using UFW or iptables specifically?
[21:40] <hkrrsx> Yes, I'm aware that UFW is basically a front end for iptables :)
[21:40] <rgb247> hkrrsx: it seems that UFW is inactive
[21:40] <rgb247> ufw status verbose gives: inactive
[21:41] <hkrrsx> rgb247: iptables -nvL --line-numbers | pastebinit
[21:41] <hkrrsx> Please
[21:43] <rgb247> hkrrsx: http://paste.ubuntu.com/10829623/
[21:43] <hkrrsx> Excellent
[21:45] <JFlash> hi, I'm back with my second monitor problems. I installed intel graphics from this url but still no sign of life from HTMI : https://01.org/linuxgraphics/downloads
[21:45] <JFlash> most references I find online list display port as "disconnected" on the xrandr command output. however , in my case htmi is not even listed!
[21:45] <hkrrsx> rgb247: sudo iptables -A INPUT -p tcp --dport https -j ACCEPT
[21:46] <hkrrsx> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IptablesHowTo
[21:46] <JFlash> I wish I could find out if it's a hardware problem
[21:46] <hkrrsx> That'll open port 443 for incoming connections
[21:46] <hkrrsx> You're not blocked on outgoing connections either
[21:46] <daftykins> JFlash: boot a live session from USB
[21:46] <rgb247> hkrrsx: thank you, it works
[21:47] <hkrrsx> Superb
[21:47] <OerHeks> JFlash, that ppa is dead, maybe https://launchpad.net/~xorg-edgers/+archive/ubuntu/ppa has better interl drivers.
[21:49] <JFlash> OerHeks, but its listed as a March 2015 release??
[21:52] <JFlash> daftykins, ok so go to linux on a stick website and download the stuff from there, is that what yu mean?
[21:53] <OerHeks> JFlash, you understand that 'march 2015' driver is for 3.19 kernel ??
[21:53] <kophygiddie> #django
[21:54] <OerHeks> as current ubuntu versions do not have that, it is notgoing to work.
[21:54] <[n0mad]> last week I changed my ubuntu one password. now i'm unable to turn on recommendations. if i launch software center as sudo it pops up and lets me login and i can see recommendations. any ideas?
[21:54] <daftykins> JFlash: download ubuntu desktop, throw it on a flash drive, boot from it, then try plugging the TV in from that *live session*
[21:55] <[n0mad]> i've also reinstalled software center
[21:57] <JFlash> daftykins, sounds like a plan but I think I only have SDCards and external disk drives :(
[21:57] <OerHeks> [n0mad], it could be you have 2 keys in keys & passowrds [seahorse] stored, http://askubuntu.com/a/143291 delete one
[21:57] <JFlash> OerHeks, thanks for the tip
[21:58] <JFlash> OerHeks, should I remove that installation then?
[21:59] <OerHeks> JFlash, yes i would purge/remove that intel repo
[22:02] <dustinspringman> any postfix masters in the house?
[22:03] <JFlash> OerHeks, I'm using sofware center
[22:03] <JFlash> OerHeks, it only gives me option to "reinstall", never to remove
[22:03] <hkrrsx> dustinspringman: /join #postfix
[22:03] <dustinspringman> hkrrsx: hah! I guess I should've thought of that.. thanks!
[22:03] <OerHeks> !ppa-purge
[22:04] <hkrrsx> dustinspringman: You got it :)
[22:04] <OerHeks> i hope this works for that repo too
[22:05] <[n0mad]> OerHeks, thanks! I went ahead and deleted anything there Ubuntu because i'm brave and there were many "ubuntu web account" listings and one for ubuntu one
[22:06] <[n0mad]> i went ahead and deleted all of those and then restarted software center and now when i turned on recommendations it worked
[22:06] <OerHeks> [n0mad], have fun
[22:09] <JFlash> OerHeks, sudo ppa-purge command not found!
[22:09] <Seveas> !info openssh-server vivid
[22:10] <samthewildone> What it the command to regenerate the passcode for the encryption of my /home folder.
[22:11] <roky> Do you have the encryption utilities installed?
[22:11] <tyagi_> hi
[22:12] <samthewildone> roky, not sure.
[22:12] <samthewildone> roky, was a fresh install with encryption so deep I don't remember.
[22:12] <steve> what stops the owner of a PPA arbitrarily overwriting my system?
[22:12] <steve> like shipping me a new openssh-server
[22:12] <samthewildone> roky, all I know is when I logged in, a prompt to generate a passcode was available and I clicked it but, didn't write down the passcode.
[22:12] <roky> @steve the choice of you updating the package or not.
[22:13] <steve> ok, so nothing :)
[22:13] <roky> @samthewildone "sudo apt-get install ecryptfs-utils cryptsetup"
[22:14] <steve> the usual update/dist-upgrade cycle doesn't present the user with the origin of each package afaik
[22:14] <roky> @steve, You could use another terminal to show where packages are being updated from. However, I don't know off the top of my head what terminal does. However, I have seen it.
[22:15] <roky> That or you could see the packages that need to be updated and keep an eye on the ppa packages you have. It's not ideal though, ha.
[22:15] <samthewildone> roko, thanks I found the command "ecryptfs-unwrap-passphrase"
[22:15] <roky> Did it prompt for your login password?
[22:16] <roky> It should then show you the passphrase.
[22:16] <steve> roky: yeah, i guess it's an intrinsic risk, oh well
[22:16] <roky> @steve, Pretty much. PPA's are great, but there is a risk to adding any repo not on the distro by default.
[22:16] <roky> Price of choice ;)
[22:20] <samthewildone> roko, got it !
[22:20] <samthewildone> roky, ^
[22:22] <roky> @samthewildone Awesome, glad to hear it.
[22:24] <tds5016> hi all. Question... I have an openstack instance from which I've attached a volume. Do you know an easy way I could figure out what the device path is from the instance?
[22:25] <tds5016> I don't want to query openstack itself.
[22:30] <mekhami> i'm having trouble booting from USB
[22:30] <mekhami> i made a usb loader earlier
[22:30] <mekhami> plugged it into my PC
[22:30] <mekhami> my bios settings have USB as the first boot priority
[22:30] <mekhami> and it's stuck on a blinking cursor
[22:31] <daftykins> mekhami: which OS did you make up the flash drive with? did you MD5 your download to check it was good?
[22:32] <mekhami> i downloaded straight from ubuntu.com today, i made it up on OS X with whatever the tool is in the ubuntu docs
[22:33] <mekhami> i can make it again from a windows desktop
[22:34] <XYZAFFA1R> I am on ubuntu 14.04 trying to get league of legends to work under wine 1.7.38. I used playonlinux to install it and that all went well but when I get in an actuall game I get about 10 fps. Other than the frame rate everything else works well. I am using intel graphics. SO far I tried dropping the settings and turning off shadows to no effect.
[22:38] <XYZAFFA1R> Hello?
[22:38] <postmodern> how do you ensure update-alternatives survive updates? everytime I update the ruby2.0 package (from brightbox's PPA) apt-get resets the symlinks to point to the ruby1.9.1 package
[22:38] <alex1001> bonjour
[22:38] <alex1001> j'ai une question , si quelqu'un peut m'aider
[22:38] <k1l> !fr | alex1001
[22:39] <mekhami> Anyone know why my USB loader might not be working?
[22:39] <daftykins> mekhami: try from Windows yeah, using Universal USB Installer from pendrivelinux.com
[22:39] <k1l> mekhami: just use "dd" to burn the image onto the usb
[22:40] <k1l> some "make usb" tools corrupt the iso
[22:41] <OerHeks> XYZAFFA1R, check the wineHQ database, for tips.
[22:41] <OerHeks> else your intel gpu is not that strong for 3d gaming
[22:42] <XYZAFFA1R> OerHeks, It runs smoothly in windows on my computer, but I don't have windows anymore.
[22:43] <JFlash> guys, how do I reinstall ubuntu without a cd or flash drive
[22:43] <k1l> XYZAFFA1R: better ask the wine guys. seems like the wine layer is the issue there
[22:44] <EriC^^> JFlash: you want to fresh install?
[22:44] <k1l> JFlash: pxe boot or let grub load the iso. but its most easy just to get a dvd or usb drive
[22:44] <JFlash> EriC^^, well anything that can fix what I screw up :(
[22:45] <EriC^^> JFlash: you could dd the partition of your installation
[22:45] <EriC^^> and if it gets really bad you could just dd it back
[22:45] <JFlash> what does dd mean
[22:45] <EriC^^> diskdump, it's a tool
[22:45] <JFlash> what can I find a step by step that I can follow
[22:45] <JFlash> I'm not an advanced user
[22:46] <OerHeks> XYZAFFA1R, i just google around and find this, http://www.sysads.co.uk/2014/06/install-league-legends-ubuntu-14-04/ you need to install more stuff
[22:46] <JFlash> how do I make sure I have such a partition?
[22:46] <EriC^^> it's pretty straightforward, dd if=<input file> of=<output file>
[22:46] <EriC^^> JFlash: like sudo dd if=/dev/sda1 of=/path/to/save/partition.img
[22:46] <JFlash> ok but I dont have the media to save it on
[22:47] <JFlash> maybe I'm not following
[22:47] <JFlash> i don't have the phisical media
[22:47] <pgunnars> Seems like all the hex editors have varying usability. I need a hexeditor that can search a 17gb binary file, and add into the middle of it (not editing, adding).
[22:48] <daftykins> pgunnars: 17GB binary? of what?
[22:48] <EriC^^> you'd have to save it on your pc somewhere, and use ubuntu if it's still somewhat running or boot a liveusb to restore it
[22:48] <EriC^^> JFlash: ^
[22:49] <JFlash> again
[22:49] <JFlash> I don't have media
[22:49] <JFlash> I want to reinstall from hard drive
[22:49] <EriC^^> JFlash: if you make a separate partition with just an ubuntu iso and it
[22:49] <JFlash> in widows I can restore the system
[22:49] <EriC^^> you could boot the iso and restore when you want
[22:50] <JFlash> is there such thing in Ubuntu?
[22:50] <EriC^^> it's somewhat of a headache but it's a suggestion if you want to restore your system in case it goes boom
[22:50] <JFlash> where is the ISO?
[22:50] <EriC^^> releases.ubuntu.com
[22:51] <JFlash> ah ok
[22:51] <JFlash> so it's something I have to download
[22:51] <EriC^^> yeah
[22:51] <JFlash> hey I have this in my external drive
[22:51] <JFlash> I already have it
[22:51] <JFlash> what do I do with it?
[22:51] <EriC^^> if you have an external drive
[22:51] <JFlash> it's not a flash drive thou!
[22:52] <JFlash> it's hard disk
[22:52] <EriC^^> then just dd your installation there, and if you ever need to restore just dd it back from there
[22:52] <EriC^^> you can boot the .iso i think from there no problem maybe someone can confirm
[22:52] <JFlash> EriC^^, maybe you did not follow, the reason I need to reinstall is that the system is broken
[22:53] <JFlash> I screw up the config
[22:53] <EriC^^> what config
[22:53] <JFlash> well it doesnt detect the HDMI port anymore
[22:53] <JFlash> it's not even listed on xrandr
[22:53] <EriC^^> what config file did you change?
[22:54] <JFlash> id not change anything manually I just stopped working
[22:54] <JFlash> maybe some kernel update
[22:54] <EriC^^> did you try an older kernel?
[22:54] <JFlash> but then I tried a few kernels and nothing worked
[22:54] <JFlash> I tried many things, I ahve been trying things for 5 hours
[22:55] <JFlash> I really need my second screen back :(
[22:55] <daftykins> EriC^^: i was following this one earlier, definitely need a live session booted to be able to diagnose further
[22:55] <daftykins> JFlash: you're going to need to obtain a flash drive
[22:55] <JFlash> ouch
[22:56] <daftykins> or perhaps a kind soul will help you add a manual GRUB entry to boot a .ISO from your /boot partition directly
[22:56] <JFlash> can't I just get a fresh install rather than continue to try to battle this?
[22:56] <daftykins> well yes but you say you have no flash drive or DVD to put Ubuntu on
[22:57] <JFlash> that's right , I don't
[22:57] <JFlash> sorry I just happen to come recently from windows
[22:57] <daftykins> so you're out of options
[22:57] <daftykins> honestly you can even buy flash drives in supermarkets now
[22:57] <JFlash> so it's hard for me to grasp that I cannot restore my computer to a fresh , safe state
[22:57] <JFlash> that 's a bit mind boggling to me
[22:58] <daftykins> why? only Windows 8 offers this functionality as you describe.
[22:58] <JFlash> (without using accessories, that's what I mean)
[22:58] <dawnson> The installer does not detect any keyboard (after grub, when selecting languages)
[22:58] <daftykins> well, kind of macs too i suppose
[22:58] <daftykins> but they just clean install over the internet
[22:58] <dawnson> Found several bug reports for multiple Ubuntu versions all as won't fix because no new ISO for that Ubuntu version
[22:58] <dawnson> Wtf?
[22:59] <daftykins> dawnson: are you talking about 15.04 ?
[22:59] <dawnson> Yes but have the same issue with 14.10 ISO
[22:59] <JFlash> I have SD cards
[22:59] <JFlash> will those do?
[22:59] <dawnson> (Both server ISO)
[22:59] <JFlash> I have a raspberry pi
[22:59] <JFlash> lol
[22:59] <daftykins> JFlash: you can try. it's up to your system whether it can boot from them
[22:59] <JFlash> I'm f*cked
[23:00] <EriC^^> JFlash: did you do an update or something before it disappeared?
[23:00] <daftykins> don't use even obfuscated language in here please
[23:00] <JFlash> EriC^^, maybe, I use the computer all day
[23:00] <JFlash> EriC^^, I do have a log online, 1 sec
[23:00] <k1l> JFlash: the most easy way would be to grab a dvd or usb-pendrive
[23:00] <mekhami> this isn't exactly ubuntu related, but any idea why my new SSD might not be detected?
[23:01] <dawnson> I tried every setting and no matter if I boot from bios or Efi
[23:01] <mekhami> It's all connected but the bios doesn't notice it
[23:01] <k1l> JFlash: but since you deny that easy way, you need to take more effort now to make a reinstall. look at pxe boot or try to boot the iso with grub
[23:01] <dawnson> Keyboard does work fine in grub but not In installer
[23:01] <JFlash> EriC^^, http://pastebin.com/ZatXiBMN
[23:01] <k1l> mekhami: hardware failure? does the bios support ssds?
[23:01] <JFlash> EriC^^, problem started when I got back home around 4 pm and trided to re-connect the TV
[23:02] <k1l> dawnson: what keyboard?
[23:02] <k1l> dawnson: some special hardware has issues with the kernel. which gets loaded after grub
[23:02] <dawnson> I tried a wireless Logitech one and a wired (usb) roccat one
[23:02] <JFlash> k1l, ok I will try to read about those
[23:03] <dawnson> Nothing special about this. My Efi/bios supports both
[23:03] <dawnson> Even windows 7 installer works fine
[23:03] <EriC^^> JFlash: did you check dmesg or the xorg logs?
[23:03] <dawnson> The only other keyboards I have besides those 2 are all Bluetooth so no option to use them during setup
[23:05] <JFlash> EriC^^, daftykins did look at xorg logs
[23:05] <JFlash> EriC^^, don't remember have trying dmesg
[23:07] <dawnson> (The device I am trying to install on is an i5 Intel nuc
[23:08] <dawnson> I know it is possible because I had Ubuntu on there before, but I don't know how I did it back the
[23:08] <dawnson> Haven't changed any device settings either
[23:09] <JFlash> EriC^^, what should I look for in dmesg?
[23:09] <deadmund> dawnson: I just got here, what is the issue you're having??
[23:10] <k1l> dawnson: could be a kernel issue?!
[23:10] <dawnson> Deadmund: keyboard not working in installer for server image
[23:10] <dawnson> But works fine in grub
[23:11] <dawnson> K1l: with 2 different kernels? Unlikely
[23:11] <deadmund> dawnson: very strange. I have no idea! :(
[23:11] <dawnson> (14.10 and 15.04)
[23:11] <dawnson> Have this every time I want to install Ubuntu on any machine! Well not every time but annoyingly often
[23:12] <k1l> dawnson: ?!
[23:12] <k1l> on different hardware types with different keyboards?
[23:12] <daftykins> dawnson: do you have the latest BIOS on this NUC?
[23:13] <dawnson> I tried 2 different keyboards (all I have besides the Bluetooth ones) and tried the 14.10 and 15.04 kernels
[23:13] <dawnson> daftykins: yes
[23:14] <daftykins> 100% you checked intel's pages - you're not just saying yes to make it a problem here? :)
[23:14] <dawnson> No, I checked yesterday when I started using the nuc again after a few months (it had win7 installed for a while)
[23:16] <JFlash> guys could this tool help me: https://launchpad.net/systemback
[23:16] <JFlash> they say the have sistem install and system repair
[23:16] <dawnson> Jflash: what do you want to do?
[23:17] <deadmund> dawnson: Have you tried a) resetting the bios to defaults (or looking at the bios for USB / USB+Keyboard options and b) replugging the keyboard after you get into the installer?
[23:17] <JFlash> dawnson, repair my system , it's not working properly anymore
[23:17] <JFlash> dawnson, been trying to fix it all day
[23:17] <JFlash> dawnson, it can no longer see HDMI port
[23:17] <Johnny_Linux> i believe that is a back up first pgm
[23:18] <deadmund> JFlash: For that software package to help, you need to have made an image _before_ the problem started. That way you have something to roll back to. What issues are you having with your system???
[23:18] <dawnson> Deadmund: yes, I tried the bios defaults and settings, I even tried the installer in Efi and bios mode. And yes, I tried re plugging the keyboard to another sub port when the language option step comes
[23:18] <JFlash> deadmund, but it says it has an "install" feature!
[23:18] <JFlash> not just restore
[23:19] <JFlash> http://www.unixmen.com/systemback-restore-linux-system-previous-state/
[23:19] <dawnson> Jflash: the raspberri pi has a .txt file in the root partition for he I options (and some other) you can try that. There should be instructions in the raspberry wiki
[23:19] <JFlash> dawnson, but I'm not rying to reinstal lthe raspberry pi
[23:19] <JFlash> I'm trying to reinstall ubuntu on my laptop
[23:20] <EriC^^> JFlash: type tail -n 100 /var/log/apt/history.log | pastebinit
[23:20] <JFlash> raspberry has some sort of lesser linux on
[23:20] <dawnson> Ah ok then I have no idea
[23:23] <mekhami> ok...
[23:23] <mekhami> so I got my SSD detected
[23:23] <mekhami> but now it's not detecting my USB
[23:23] <dawnson> Guess I do have to try Ubuntu desktop version, that might work according to some people on the Internet (so probably not)
[23:23] <dawnson> Mekhami: welcome to the club xD
[23:24] <compdoc> mekhami, the ssd is sata?
[23:24] <Guest98376> guys, I have a laptop with a broken screen, so I have it hooked up to a monitor. Which one is Monitor 0 and which one is Monitor 1?
[23:26] <Guest98376> Do you think monitor 1 is my broken laptop screen?
[23:28] <EriC^^> Guest98376: in what context?
[23:28] <JFlash> EriC^^, still there?
[23:28] <IYOOT> can i be band from an irc net even if i chenges my ip and user name?
[23:29] <EriC^^> JFlash: yeah
[23:29] <JFlash> EriC^^, http://paste.ubuntu.com/10830324
[23:29] <mekhami> compdoc yes and it's detected
[23:29] <k1l> IYOOT: ban evading ist forbidden in most irc networks
[23:29] <mekhami> but now i go into the bios and the usb doesn't show up in boot priority
[23:29] <daftykins> IYOOT: that is not on topic here, you can chat to #freenode about their rules for this network.
[23:29] <IYOOT> how do i unblock myslef?
[23:30] <IYOOT> sorry
[23:30] <Guest98376> umm In my "computer summary", i have two displays. One is my broken laptop screen, and one is a desk monitor I am using that is hooked to it. Which one is Monitor 1 and which one is Monitor O?
[23:30] <darkelfjuggalo> Can someone tell me the easiest way to get the most up to date version of Firefox on Unbuntu 14.04... the Repository doesn't have it and every time i try to install a program from a .tar i can't access it properly
[23:30] <JFlash> EriC^^, see anything suspicious?
[23:31] <EriC^^> JFlash: not really
[23:31] <JFlash> EriC^^, or anything I could try to undo?
[23:31] <dawnson> Is there a release date for 15.04?
[23:31] <k1l> darkelfjuggalo: what version are you talking about?
[23:31] <k1l> dawnson: 27th april iirc
[23:31] <dawnson> Hmmm
[23:31] <EriC^^> JFlash: try booting the iso from grub https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2/ISOBoot
[23:32] <EriC^^> JFlash: try the sd card first it might work
[23:32] <dawnson> darkelfjuggalo: can you install it from Mozilla.com?
[23:32] <JFlash> EriC^^, looks like a major upgrade today around 7 am
[23:32] <mekhami> i don't understand
[23:32] <mekhami> i just rebuild this usb loader
[23:32] <mekhami> take it from the pc
[23:32] <mekhami> plug it into the other one
[23:32] <k1l> !info firefox | darkelfjuggalo
[23:33] <mekhami> and my bios doesn't see it
[23:33] <mekhami> idgi
[23:34] <EriC^^> JFlash: type lspci -k | grep -A2 VGA | pastebinit
[23:35] <JFlash> EriC^^, http://paste.ubuntu.com/10830340/
[23:37] <mekhami> nevermind, it was listed in hard drives for whatever reason
[23:40] <JFlash> EriC^^, did you see it?
[23:42] <darkelfjuggalo> firefox uses a .tar file, not .deb file but it says to direct download... can i add mozilla as a source for existing mozilla software?
[23:42] <k1l> darkelfjuggalo: what version are you talking about?
[23:43] <k1l> darkelfjuggalo: ?
[23:43] <darkelfjuggalo> i dont know what version i have, only that my gmail says it no longer supports this version but the list of supported versions says it supports the most recent and current major release
[23:43] <k1l> darkelfjuggalo: can you pastebin a "sudo apt-get update &&apt-cache policy firefox"
[23:44] <k1l> !paste | darkelfjuggalo
[23:46] <JFlash> what about UnetBooting
[23:47] <k1l> that corrupts the iso
[23:47] <JFlash> could it help me install without a USB stick?
[23:47] <k1l> which can result in boot failure
[23:47] <mekhami> okay so i have a fresh install of ubuntu now!
[23:47] <k1l> JFlash: no.
[23:47] <daftykins> JFlash: seriously please just wait and buy a flash drive, this topic is getting irritating now :P
[23:47] <mekhami> I have a question though; I don't want to mess up my paths again, last time I had to sudo half the time and not half the time, so let me see if I can get an explanation
[23:47] <mekhami> when I do things like apt-get, do I always have to sudo?
[23:47] <mekhami> how do i set up my user correctly this time?
[23:48] <k1l> JFlash: seriously: pxe boot or iso booting in grub. but that are advanced topics. the best way is to grab a dvd or usb drive.
[23:48] <k1l> darkelfjuggalo: so any feedback?
[23:48] <JFlash> k1l, why no?
[23:48] <k1l> darkelfjuggalo: if you would give some feedback we could sort that in seconds.
[23:49] <k1l> JFlash: that doesnt help you without a usb pendrive. and even then its not the best method.
[23:49] <darkelfjuggalo> well i have several peices of business working at once and the browser issue ties into my business... here is the paste http://pastebin.com/3MxtrzCq
[23:49] <k1l> JFlash: i already answered you twice what your options are
[23:50] <k1l> darkelfjuggalo: oh my. you got raring sources enabled? what sort of mess is that?
[23:50] <JFlash> well you are oblidged to know or remember evrything :) (as in evry option that could help me)
[23:50] <JFlash> anyway, point taken
[23:51] <daftykins> JFlash: you've been told what your choices are, please accept them now :)
[23:51] <darkelfjuggalo> that was what has been in effect since I upgraded
[23:51] <k1l> darkelfjuggalo: please pastebin a "ls -al /etc/apt/sources.list.d" and a "cat /etc/apt/sources.list" too
[23:51] <k1l> darkelfjuggalo: how did you upgrade?
[23:52] <darkelfjuggalo> the previous version did it automatically. then i spent 3 months trying to get my DE back
[23:53] <daftykins> after one month you didn't clean install? :P
darkelfjuggalo: please pastebin a "ls -al /etc/apt/sources.list.d" and a "cat /etc/apt/sources.list" too
[23:53] <darkelfjuggalo> http://pastebin.com/WB2ushJc
[23:54] <Bashing-om> mekhami: Think like so, anytime you are working outside of your /home directory, and desire to make any change to the system, administrative authority is required. that is the 'sudo' mechanisim .
[23:55] <k1l> darkelfjuggalo: "sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list" then erase all lines which include "raring" and erase the last both line with ubuntuzilla, too
[23:56] <k1l> darkelfjuggalo: then ctrl+o for saving, then ctrl+x for exit. then "sudo apt-get update && apt-cache policy firefox"
[23:57] <k1l> darkelfjuggalo: wait
[23:57] <darkelfjuggalo> wait what?
[23:57] <k1l> darkelfjuggalo: dont remove the 2 lines that include "partner". you need to exchange the raring with a trusty there.
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"hash4days",
"hateball",
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"hkrrsx",
"home",
"ianorlin",
"ifohancroft",
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"mcphail",
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"neredsenvy",
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"ninjai",
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"paws",
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"perpetualdelaype",
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"platsbruts",
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"psyanide",
"puffi",
"rahul__",
"realityphantom",
"rgb247",
"robotdevil",
"roky",
"sailendra",
"samthewildone",
"sgo11",
"shadytv",
"sheer",
"simplisity",
"skinux",
"somsip",
"splitwire",
"ssboy",
"stacks88",
"stanmcm",
"stegomon",
"steve",
"tds5016",
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"techgrin",
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"tibiasoba",
"tir_",
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"treelzebub",
"trijntje",
"tworkin",
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"vlt",
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"wedgeV",
"wodrow",
"xangua",
"zoe_ww",
"zombiefox",
"zorbs0ne",
"zouwhin",
"zy3pD",
"zykotic10",
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2015-04-15-#ubuntu-quality
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[14:18] <elopio> jfunk: when do you want to meet today to catch up with what we are doing here?
[14:19] <jfunk> can do right after the refinement meeting
[14:19] <jfunk> in 40
[14:19] <jfunk> elopio: ^
[14:19] <elopio> jfunk: I will be in the training.
[14:20] <jfunk> elopio: ok, put something on my cal
[14:20] <jfunk> can do it tmw too
[14:39] <artmello> hey, we are facing some issues with AP tests for gallery-app. We are proposing an MR to sort that out but we would like someone from qa to review it first
[14:39] <artmello> since a couple of them seem to be unreliable after all
[14:43] <artmello> ping ubuntu-qa
[14:43] <fgimenez> artmello, you can add canonical-platform-qa as reviewer
[14:44] <artmello> fgimenez: ok, thx
[15:16] <elopio> fgimenez: can you take care of the review as one of the vanguard task? Or will it take more time than that?
[15:19] <fgimenez> elopio, yes, i'm setting up the branch for testing, i'll ping the vanguard if i don't finish with it before my eod
[15:19] <elopio> cool, thanks.
[16:46] <balloons> elopio, I'd like to talk about documenting the various autopilot helpers for system services on touch. Things like location, online services, accounts, etc. I know there has been a good amount of work on making these less painful.
[17:11] <elopio> balloons: right, we need to talk. There are not many yet, but there will be.
[17:11] <elopio> balloons: can you schedule a meeting next week?
[17:14] <balloons> elopio, sure. I'll invite you and feel free to pass it along to whomever else
[17:15] <elopio> ok
[22:23] <elopio> veebers: did you check if the test was skipped?
[22:23] <elopio> I think dobey mentioned about a testtools bug that would run the tests even if the class had the skip annotation.
[22:24] <veebers> elopio: I tested with a dummy test locally to make sure decorating the class worked (it did for me).
[22:24] <veebers> I'm pretty confident that it skips the test when I run it, I'll double check though
[22:24] <elopio> veebers: ok. I prefer your version.
[22:24] <elopio> I told brendand to raise the exception, and he didn't fully agree with that.
[22:26] <brendand> elopio, :)
[22:26] <elopio> brendand: please review veebers' branch tomorrow, to see if you like it too.
[22:27] <elopio> veebers: 8+ """Return if the sim in the provided slot number is locked.
[22:27] <elopio> I think that should be: Return True if...
[22:27] <veebers> Right, I raise an exception because the method returns bool if the passed sim is locked or not, if the sim is not there that is an exception to the 'locked' or 'unlocked' states
[22:27] <veebers> elopio: good catch, will fix
[22:31] <veebers> elopio: to recap, you mentioned in the standup that you spoke w/ federico re: what was required for the 'click not visible dash item'? Specifically there is more to add to the link MP.
[22:31] <elopio> veebers: yes, I already updated the mp
[22:31] <elopio> and left a comment about updating it to use grid units.
[22:34] <veebers> elopio: ah cool thanks
[22:37] <veebers> elopio: does it need the method 'swipe_to_top' added?
[22:37] <veebers> or am I being dumb and it's already there
[22:37] <elopio> veebers: it's not already there, but it's not related to the non-visible item
[22:37] <elopio> so I would prefer it to come as part of the MPs that the unity team will do.
[22:38] <elopio> veebers: that swipe to top is for the uninstall test.
[22:38] <veebers> elopio: so that means that we can't remove GenericScopeView from the sanity suite as it still has functionality that we require that's not upstream?
[22:38] <elopio> veebers: that's right.
[22:38] <elopio> or if you prefer, I can make a quick MP for only swipe_to_top.
[22:39] <veebers> elopio, brendand: ^^ so in a nutshell we can't remove the odd inheritence because we're not putting everything upstream
[22:39] <veebers> elopio: I see that we also have 'click_scope_item' in GenericScopeView too :-)
[22:40] <brendand> elopio, veebers - hmmm did we forget a helper??
[22:44] <veebers> brendand: I'm hoping to clarify. To get rid of the inheritance we have for the ClickScope, everything in dash.GenericScopeView needs to be upstream. Currently we don't have an MP that includes it all (or a collection of MPs that do that)
[22:45] <brendand> veebers, do we know what's missing? is it just one function?
[22:47] <veebers> There are 3 methods we've touched. open_preview is sorted (thanks to elopio) click_scope_item and swipe_to_top remain. elopio has suggested to make MPs for one of those 2, perhaps another for the last
[22:50] <veebers> brendand: ultimately the MP for 'remove the inheritence from sanity suite' is pretty straight forward, assuming the push upstream happens
[22:53] <brendand> veebers, something that's playing on my mind now, is that i've just noticed that the method 'go_to_store' is not in the GenericScopeView in ubuntu_sanity_tests, which means it already is upstream
[22:53] <brendand> veebers, so maybe these issues had nothing to do with inheritance at all? or am i missing something?
[23:02] <veebers> brendand: the inheritance issue we see is due to unityclickscope.ClickScope inheriting from (upstream) ClickScope and (sanity suite) GenericScopeView. If we update the upstream GenericScopeView then there is no need for our ones and the multi-inheritance goes away
[23:03] <brendand> veebers, ah so it's only multiple inheritance that causes a problem. i missed that detail
[23:15] <veebers> ah right, yeah :-)
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2015-04-15-#ubuntu-cn
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[00:56] <jiero> iphone5s 官翻 现价仅售 2099 http://shop114919713.taobao.com/index.htm?spm=a1z10.1-c.w5003-10659629946.7.5F7mCx&scene=taobao_shop
[00:56] <^k^> jiero: ⇪ 首页-爱锋派-淘宝网
[01:10] <jiero> 那些 pad 都不到1000啊。。。为啥？
[01:16] <jusss> test
[01:16] <^k^> jusss:点点点. 09:16
[01:33] <^k^> 新 启动和引导 • GRUB2官方文档翻译项目 http://forum.ubuntu.org.cn/viewtopic.php?t=469523 本人找到了官方文档学习GRUB2，确发现英文确实很多国人(包括本人)最求技术的一大门槛。 所以本人提起了这个翻译官方技术文档的项目，希望大家能多多帮忙，让一些很好的、成熟的、还未被汉化的技术文
[01:33] <^k^> ─> 档能翻译并自由地传播。 谢谢,一下为项目地址： 有道云协助群号：4599204 群地址：http:// …
[01:37] <ZCCCCCC> hello
[01:37] <^k^> ZCCCCCC:点点点. 09:37
[01:45] <ZCCCCCC> 都不在么
[01:51] <ZCCCCCC> http://www.ubuntu-china.cn
[01:52] <^k^> ⇪ ti: Ubuntu 是一个开源的软件平台。应用广泛，包括智能手机，平板电脑，PC，服务器和云。 | Ubuntu
[01:55] <ZCCCCCC> nbuntu－cn 论坛上不去了
[01:58] <gfxmode> 路由器DNS好像解析freenode有问题，在/etc/hosts里加了192.186.157.43 chat.freenode.net
[02:09] <jusss> test
[02:09] <^k^> jusss:点点点. 10:09
[02:31] <ZCCCCCC> test
[02:31] <^k^> ZCCCCCC:点点点. 10:31
[02:31] <ZCCCCCC> time
[02:31] <ZCCCCCC> test time
[02:50] <jusss> 谁用yum管理包？
[02:50] <jusss> 有人用centos 没？
[02:51] <jusss> onlylove_: 赶快来教教我
[02:51] <jusss> onlylove_: centos
[03:05] <jiero> jusss: 你是在给公司处理 centos 么？
[03:05] <jiero> 面试过程中要 centos 哈。
[03:06] <jusss> jiero: 傻叉公司用centos
[03:12] <jusss> onlylove_: blabla
[03:16] <onlylove_> jusss: 找ccie蛙
[03:16] <onlylove_> jusss: 你可以man下yum
[03:16] <^k^> 新 系统安装和升级 • firefox安装aspera-connect http://forum.ubuntu.org.cn/viewtopic.php?t=469527 各位大侠， firefox安装aspera-connect sh aspera-connect-3.5.1.92523-linux-64.sh Installing Aspera Connect Deploying Aspera Connect (/home/li/.aspera/connect) for the current user only. Restart firefox manually to load the Aspera Connect plug-in Install complete.
[03:16] <^k^> ─> 在home/li 里面怎么找不到.aspera? 如何使用sapera-connect？ 谢谢！ zz: yueli711 — 2015-04-15 11:15
[03:16] <jusss> onlylove_: 没心情。。。
[03:17] <jusss> onlylove_: 很难用的系统
[03:17] <jusss> 比debian差多了
[03:17] <onlylove_> jusss: yum update，然后 yum install你要的包
[03:17] <jusss> 赶快来围攻我呀
[03:17] <onlylove_> jusss: 注意丫的不会自动解决依赖
[03:17] <jusss> onlylove_: 怎么搜索包
[03:17] <onlylove_> jusss: yum provide？
[03:17] <jusss> onlylove_: 我现在在arch里面用vbox装了个centos,想要用guest扩展包
[03:18] <jusss> onlylove_: 手动安装那个包，一直提缺少包，而且建议从源里安装，我不会yum
[03:19] <jusss> onlylove_: 比如我想搜索vbox*开头的包，怎么搜
[03:19] <jusss> 我大arch就很简单 pacman -Ss vbox*即可
[03:19] <jusss> 或aptitude search vbox*
[03:20] <onlylove_> jusss: yum search，不过比较弱
[03:20] <onlylove_> jusss: http://blog.chinaunix.net/uid-346158-id-2131252.html
[03:20] <^k^> ⇪ ti: yum命令指南-yum使用方法-nianzong-ChinaUnix博客
[03:20] <jusss> onlylove_: 昨天见到那个传说中的chinaunix的大神了，呵呵
[03:21] <onlylove_> jusss: 真神？
[03:25] <onlylove> jusss: 掉了
[03:25] <^k^> 新 常用硬件支持 • 系统装好后键盘没有用是怎么回事 http://forum.ubuntu.org.cn/viewtopic.php?t=469529 安装Ubuntu的时候键盘就没有用 只能用软键盘。安装好以后键盘还是没有用，哪位高手指导下。谢谢 zz: ZZY201 — 2015-04-15 11:19
[03:26] * O0XX|Qiong 色象呢?
[03:29] * O0XX|Qiong momo palomino|working
[03:30] <onlylove> O0XX|Qiong: 不要随便 mo 土豪马的秘书
[03:30] <O0XX|Qiong> onlylove: 破马|卧啃 现在是破马叔叔的秘书了?
[03:31] <onlylove> O0XX|Qiong: 一直都是好么，从来都是破马语音控制
[03:32] <palomino|working> ...
[03:33] <O0XX|Qiong> onlylove: 这是有事秘书干的节奏?
[03:34] <onlylove> O0XX|Qiong: 我问你点事情，就是我司的网络，有线就这样掉，但是把有线接一个无线路由，连无线貌似能正常下载，为啥 cc happyaron BuMangHuo
[03:34] <O0XX|Qiong> onlylove: 你电脑网口松了.. happyaron BuMangHuo 是不是很有道理?
[03:35] <onlylove> O0XX|Qiong: 不是
[03:35] <onlylove> O0XX|Qiong: 所有电脑的有线都这样
[03:37] <O0XX|Qiong> onlylove: 去看无线路由的日志
[03:37] <O0XX|Qiong> onlylove: 估计那边也掉
[03:38] <onlylove> O0XX|Qiong: 但是有线不能下载东西，无线能啊
[03:38] <onlylove> O0XX|Qiong: 有线的下载几个KB就断了
[03:38] <O0XX|Qiong> onlylove: 因为你无线没断
[03:38] <O0XX|Qiong> onlylove: 无线没断系统不会终止你的下载
[03:39] <O0XX|Qiong> onlylove: 只是重连那段时间下不到而已
[03:39] <onlylove> 靠……
[03:39] <O0XX|Qiong> onlylove: 你直连有线一断, 系统就把你的下载停了
[03:40] <onlylove> O0XX|Qiong: 问题是，你这个断是咋判断的
[03:40] <onlylove> O0XX|Qiong: tcp连接么
[03:40] <O0XX|Qiong> onlylove: 你用network-manager么?
[03:40] <onlylove> O0XX|Qiong: 因为我看一个稍微长点的网页会被reset
[03:40] <onlylove> O0XX|Qiong: windows，大佬，这边一堆excel表格
[03:41] <O0XX|Qiong> onlylove: 那我不知道系统是怎么知道有线断的...
[03:41] <^k^> 新 手机和平板 • 一加手机刷上ubuntu touch（视频） http://forum.ubuntu.org.cn/viewtopic.php?t=469530 Ubuntu touch for oneplus one(一加手机) 视频http://v.youku.com/v_show/id_225271300.html 看到一加手机社区的朋友对ubuntu touch还是很有兴趣的，而且他们在不断的完善优化 http://www.oneplusbbs.com/thread-682189-1-1.html zz: ubun
[03:41] <^k^> ─> tu526 — 2015-04-15 11:40 </content
[03:41] <BuMangHuo> 额
[03:42] <jiero> palomino|working: 破马干什么找秘书？
[03:42] <BuMangHuo> O0XX|Qiong: 不好好被资本主义腐蚀去还上线干嘛
[03:42] <BuMangHuo> O0XX|Qiong: 行李箱多大，能代购啥
[03:42] <O0XX|Qiong> BuMangHuo: 再腐蚀也得睡觉啊...不能24小时不停腐蚀啊
[03:42] <O0XX|Qiong> BuMangHuo: ...你要买啥?
[03:42] <onlylove_> 关键时刻掉线
[03:42] <onlylove_> 诶……
[03:43] <jiero> BuMangHuo: 代沟
[03:43] <BuMangHuo> O0XX|Qiong: 还不知道买啥呢
[03:43] <BuMangHuo> 有啥便宜实惠的小东西，方便带的最好
[03:44] <jiero> BuMangHuo: 吸管
[03:44] <BuMangHuo> O0XX|Qiong: 色象今天开车上班，估计迷路了
[03:44] <O0XX|Qiong> BuMangHuo: 牙签也行
[03:44] <jiero> BuMangHuo: life straw
[03:44] <O0XX|Qiong> BuMangHuo: 建议牙签, 还能去挑点固体的
[03:44] <onlylove_> 双面胶？
[03:45] <BuMangHuo> ...
[03:45] <O0XX|Qiong> BuMangHuo: 色象车到手了?
[03:45] <BuMangHuo> O0XX|Qiong: http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00BFOEY3Y/ref=od_aui_detailpages00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
[03:45] <BuMangHuo> O0XX|Qiong: 这货能带么
[03:45] <O0XX|Qiong> BuMangHuo: 你现在发给我...
[03:45] <BuMangHuo> 哦，不行
[03:46] <BuMangHuo> 没现货
[03:46] <O0XX|Qiong> BuMangHuo: 美帝的快递就是渣渣啊
[03:46] <BuMangHuo> O0XX|Qiong: 你不是要待一两个月呢？
[03:46] <BuMangHuo> O0XX|Qiong: 对啊，他的车到了
[03:46] <O0XX|Qiong> BuMangHuo: 谁跟你说的
[03:46] <O0XX|Qiong> BuMangHuo: 我这周末就回
[03:51] <iotouch> 请教下 android跟linux有什么关联
[03:52] <O0XX|Qiong> iotouch: 雷锋和雷峰塔的关系
[03:53] <iotouch> http://www.oneplus.cn/
[03:53] <^k^> iotouch: ⇪ 一加手机官网_1+手机_一加科技_一加智能手机和配件官方正品销售网站
[03:54] <iotouch> 这款 手机好像很不错
[03:54] <BuMangHuo> O0XX|Qiong: 瞎说
[03:55] <BuMangHuo> iotouch: 人民和 人民zf 的关系明白不 cc O0XX|Qiong
[03:56] <BuMangHuo> cherrot: 那种眼镜夹片你用过不
[03:57] <O0XX|Qiong> BuMangHuo: 要买斩人新装备了?
[03:57] <cherrot> BuMangHuo, 没用过 感觉不太好
[03:57] <BuMangHuo> O0XX|Qiong: ...
[03:57] <BuMangHuo> cherrot: 哦，你不近视
[03:58] <BuMangHuo> cherrot: 肯定不如直接的眼镜来的靠谱了，主要是不挡风不挡灰尘
[03:58] <O0XX|Qiong> BuMangHuo: 不能唯装备论, 主要还是技术
[03:58] <BuMangHuo> O0XX|Qiong: ...
[03:59] <BuMangHuo> O0XX|Qiong: 昨天中午骑出去了一下，晒得眼睛疼
[03:59] <O0XX|Qiong> BuMangHuo: 是, 还是要在屋里骑
[03:59] <O0XX|Qiong> BuMangHuo: 出去骑是会有各种问题的
[03:59] <BuMangHuo> O0XX|Qiong: 稍微挡一下还是有必要的，但是那种偏光镜颜色都太高调，我hold不住
[04:00] <BuMangHuo> O0XX|Qiong: 所以就用买买买的方式解决各种问题啊
[04:00] <BuMangHuo> O0XX|Qiong: 遇到问题就买啊
[04:00] <O0XX|Qiong> BuMangHuo: 你带眼睛是吧?
[04:00] <BuMangHuo> O0XX|Qiong: 眼镜
[04:00] <BuMangHuo> 近视嘛
[04:00] <O0XX|Qiong> BuMangHuo: 你是为了把眼睛变魔镜?
[04:01] <BuMangHuo> O0XX|Qiong: 变偏光墨镜
[04:01] <O0XX|Qiong> BuMangHuo: 这个可以买买买, 以前贱人戴过
[04:01] <O0XX|Qiong> BuMangHuo: 看着还不错
[04:04] <BuMangHuo> 你们helan人打字这么多多硬字啊? O0XX|Qiong
[04:05] <O0XX|Qiong> BuMangHuo: 找 happyaron , 输入法词库有石猴就这样
[04:05] <O0XX|Qiong> BuMangHuo: http://item.jd.com/1192719763.html
[04:05] <^k^> O0XX|Qiong: ⇪ 海伦凯勒 铝镁超轻偏光近视夹片驾驶太阳镜夹片 618-02【图片 价格 品牌 报价】-京东 pp: 668.00
[04:06] <cherrot> O0XX|Qiong, 拜石猴
[04:06] * cherrot 一个夹片668 。。。壕啊
[04:06] * O0XX|Qiong 尼玛, 上优酷太慢了...
[04:07] <cherrot> 有谁拍过手办？ 需要微距镜头吗
[04:08] <happyaron> BuMangHuo: 我打也是石猴了
[04:08] <happyaron> BuMangHuo: 木有办法
[04:08] * cherrot 有石猴，有石猴，我会选择榴莲不放手
[04:08] <happyaron> 哈哈
[04:08] <happyaron> cherrot: 原来你这么爱榴莲
[04:09] <BuMangHuo> happyaron: 这是谁干的
[04:09] <cherrot> happyaron, lol
[04:09] <happyaron> BuMangHuo: 这是搜狗的人
[04:09] <BuMangHuo> cherrot: 不需要吧
[04:10] <happyaron> 不开心
[04:10] <BuMangHuo> cherrot: 三角架加手电筒+肉光罩
[04:10] <O0XX|Qiong> cherrot: 你要榴莲是为了就着石猴吃吧?
[04:10] <BuMangHuo> 事后
[04:10] <BuMangHuo> cherrot: 然后定焦拍也差不多了吧
[04:11] <happyaron> 唉我真心不想修ibus了
[04:11] <BuMangHuo> 再搞俩手机闪光灯补光 cherrot
[04:11] <happyaron> BuMangHuo: 问问办公室的同胞们忍忍行否
[04:11] <cherrot> BuMangHuo, 能对上焦不
[04:11] <cherrot> BuMangHuo, 壕都有柔光罩了啊
[04:13] <BuMangHuo> cherrot: 纱布啊
[04:14] <BuMangHuo> cherrot: 手动对焦啊
[04:14] <BuMangHuo> cherrot: 拍手办你还自动对？
[04:14] <cherrot> BuMangHuo, 我是说对焦距离能满足么？
[04:15] <BuMangHuo> cherrot: 差不多了
[04:15] <cherrot> BuMangHuo, 那就好 那就入适马art 35mm 了
[04:15] <BuMangHuo> cherrot: 稍微小点，咱裁啊，用尼康的锐度补充
[04:15] <BuMangHuo> cherrot: 你现在是啥镜头
[04:15] <cherrot> BuMangHuo, 50mm 1.8
[04:16] <BuMangHuo> cherrot: 这还不够？
[04:16] <cherrot> BuMangHuo, 想要个35
[04:16] <BuMangHuo> 额，要是你觉得 50 1.8 不够的话，那还是先找个35 定焦试试？
[04:16] <iMadper> happyaron: DD, interfaces哪儿有详尽的文档啊? 我看得文档都没说allow-hotplug的具体含义啊
[04:16] <BuMangHuo> 不是都说适马太黄
[04:16] <happyaron> iMadper: 看代码吧，文档没听说过有
[04:17] <BuMangHuo> iMadper: 你迷路了今天？
[04:17] <iMadper> happyaron: ... ...
[04:17] <cherrot> BuMangHuo, 50mm 拍手办应该合适 35是拍人文
[04:17] <happyaron> cherrot: 速度入个50 1.2
[04:17] <iMadper> happyaron: 代码是哪个包?
[04:17] <cherrot> BuMangHuo, 本来在纠结是入个60 微距 还是 35
[04:17] <cherrot> happyaron, 才不要
[04:17] <happyaron> iMadper: ifupdown? 其实我也不知道
[04:17] <happyaron> cherrot: 文艺片买35吧
[04:18] <iMadper> happyaron: 不称职的小DD
[04:18] <happyaron> iMadper: 嗯嗯
[04:18] <cherrot> 我的DD早已饥渴难耐！
[04:18] <O0XX|Qiong> cherrot: ...
[04:18] <happyaron> cherrot: 你不是有妹纸么
[04:18] <cherrot> happyaron, 这有关系么~
[04:18] <happyaron> cherrot: 就不要再在单身汗面前秀优越啦
[04:19] <cherrot> happyaron, 我单身了
[04:19] <happyaron> cherrot: 卧槽你又换
[04:19] <BuMangHuo> cherrot: 卧槽你又换
[04:19] <cherrot> happyaron, 换个妹
[04:19] <happyaron> cherrot: 换个妹纸对吧
[04:19] <BuMangHuo> cherrot: 不试试年龄大点的么
[04:19] <O0XX|Qiong> cherrot: 卧槽你又换
[04:19] * cherrot 我倒是想换 首先得有啊
[04:19] <cherrot> BuMangHuo, 原来你好这口
[04:20] <BuMangHuo> cherrot: 恩
[04:20] <BuMangHuo> cherrot: 不对不对
[04:20] <happyaron> lol
[04:21] <BuMangHuo> cherrot: 其实我是在 16、 17、18 的时候喜欢 20 岁的姐姐，现在我还是喜欢 20 岁的啊
[04:21] <BuMangHuo> 我这人比较专一
[04:21] <happyaron> BuMangHuo: ...
[04:21] <O0XX|Qiong> BuMangHuo: 为啥喜欢姐姐?
[04:21] <BuMangHuo> O0XX|Qiong: 我就是喜欢 20 的而已
[04:22] <BuMangHuo> O0XX|Qiong: 不过说实话，大一两岁两三岁的，感觉压力要小得多
[04:22] <O0XX|Qiong> BuMangHuo: 为啥? 谁在上面的问题?
[04:23] <BuMangHuo> O0XX|Qiong: 这倒不是
[04:23] <BuMangHuo> O0XX|Qiong: 心理作用估计是
[04:24] <O0XX|Qiong> BuMangHuo: 那你斩过比你大的?
[04:25] <BuMangHuo> O0XX|Qiong: 年龄是吧
[04:25] <happyaron> O0XX|Qiong: 我觉得这问题不需要问他吧
[04:25] <happyaron> O0XX|Qiong: 万人了啥样的能缺了
[04:25] * happyaron hides
[04:28] <BuMangHuo> O0XX|Qiong: 唉，帮忙在米帝超市里面买个遮阳帽子？
[04:28] <BuMangHuo> O0XX|Qiong: 那种棒球帽啥的
[04:28] <O0XX|Qiong> BuMangHuo: 就上面写着 SB 的那种绿帽子?
[04:28] <BuMangHuo> O0XX|Qiong: .. 不是
[04:28] <onlylove> cherrot: 拍手办用毛单反，卡片足矣
[04:29] <O0XX|Qiong> BuMangHuo: http://fmn.rrfmn.com/fmn053/20110129/1030/b_large_StgW_4aa700034d675c16.jpg
[04:29] <BuMangHuo> O0XX|Qiong: 大头的头围也太大，你看看超市里面有没有大头胖子可以戴的那种
[04:29] <onlylove> cherrot: 当然你要是真的想用单反，我推荐百微
[04:30] <BuMangHuo> onlylove: http://item.taobao.com/item.htm?id=43646289717&ali_refid=a3_430008_1006:1110445848:N:大码帽:d75ca0f0e76f58978645fb0764870675&ali_trackid=1_d75ca0f0e76f58978645fb0764870675&spm=a230r.1.0.0.bpK3rq
[04:30] <^k^> BuMangHuo: ⇪ 帽子大头围正品棒球帽男士 欧码大号帽子女户外休闲鸭舌帽遮阳帽-淘宝网 pp: 188.00
[04:30] <BuMangHuo> O0XX|Qiong: http://item.taobao.com/item.htm?id=43646289717&ali_refid=a3_430008_1006:1110445848:N:大码帽:d75ca0f0e76f58978645fb0764870675&ali_trackid=1_d75ca0f0e76f58978645fb0764870675&spm=a230r.1.0.0.bpK3rq 类似这种
[04:36] <cherrot> onlylove, 没有卡片啊
[04:59] <jussss> onlylove_: centos实在是玩不来
[04:59] <jussss> 我还是老老实实去用debian或在win上装centos算了
[04:59] <BuMangHuo> cherrot: 恩， 35 定焦的卡片也还好
[04:59] <onlylove_> jussss: 时间长了就习惯了，所有系统都那样
[05:00] * BuMangHuo 可惜没有手办拍
[05:00] <onlylove_> BuMangHuo: 我倒是有个，不过不在帝都
[05:00] <majormeng1989> w3m 能不能选中复制、粘贴，不使用鼠标
[05:00] <onlylove_> BuMangHuo: 手办什么的，都是浮云
[05:01] <onlylove_> BuMangHuo: 没国外代购，祖国货质量堪忧
[05:01] <onlylove_> BuMangHuo: 不过据说那些国外代购的，也有不少made in China的
[05:01] <BuMangHuo> 不少？
[05:02] <BuMangHuo> 不是全部？
[05:03] <onlylove> BuMangHuo: 你别忘了SD什么的，最初国内没有，都是国外造
[05:03] <onlylove> BuMangHuo: 所以全部made in China不现实
[05:04] <BuMangHuo> o
[05:04] <onlylove> BuMangHuo: 练习拍手办啥的，路边随便买个小摆件就是，或者你橡皮泥捏个，坏到家小药瓶
[05:16] <BuMangHuo> onlylove_: 找了一圈儿，桌子上没有什么值得拍的东西了
[05:16] <palomino|working> 鼠标?
[05:16] <onlylove> BuMangHuo: 矿泉水瓶，杯子，茶壶
[05:17] <palomino|working> 全是柱状物 onlylove
[05:17] <palomino|working> wait..茶壶不是..
[05:17] * palomino|working 匿
[05:17] <onlylove> BuMangHuo: 台历，闹钟
[05:17] <onlylove> palomino|working: 土豪马秘书，别捣乱
[05:18] <BuMangHuo> 没有
[05:18] <BuMangHuo> onlylove: 杯子的大小
[05:18] <BuMangHuo> onlylove: 跟手办不一样吧
[05:18] <onlylove> BuMangHuo: 手办有尺寸的，有大的有小的
[05:18] <onlylove> BuMangHuo: 你淘宝搜下粘土初音
[05:19] * BuMangHuo 其实去年的时候有个麦当当小黄人的手办的
[05:19] * BuMangHuo 但是送给一个妹子了，当然了，送得特别特别特别值
[05:19] <BuMangHuo> lol
[05:20] <onlylove> BuMangHuo: 你那是公仔玩偶吧，确定算手办？
[05:20] <BuMangHuo> onlylove: 不知道是啥，反正没过我的手
[05:20] <onlylove> BuMangHuo: 一个小黄人换了一炮？
[05:20] <BuMangHuo> onlylove: 不是的
[05:20] <onlylove> BuMangHuo: 换了一长期的？
[05:21] <BuMangHuo> onlylove: 她在度娘上班，离那家麦当当比较近
[05:21] <onlylove> BuMangHuo: 然后一直想收集那货？
[05:21] <onlylove> BuMangHuo: 我记得K还是M当时有个起司猫来着
[05:22] <BuMangHuo> onlylove: 所以她换到了那个小黄人然后跟我炫耀，然后我就不开心啊，我就顺手在地铁站买了一个很可爱的大象的公仔，花了 10 块钱来着，我给拍了张照片，她马上就要拿小黄人跟我换
[05:22] <BuMangHuo> onlylove: 最终就是她请我吃了顿饭，然后我把大象送给她了，小黄人我也没拿来....
[05:22] <onlylove> BuMangHuo: 然后你送了？
[05:22] <onlylove> BuMangHuo: 好吧……
[05:23] <BuMangHuo> roylez: 赞 stat_cal
[05:23] <BuMangHuo> onlylove: 然后后面的事情你就可以大胆的猜想了，没错的
[05:24] <onlylove> BuMangHuo: 你被反xxoo了？
[05:24] <roylez> BuMangHuo: 感觉可玩度比原来那个高
[05:25] <BuMangHuo> roylez: 对，加些其他的玩法就好了
[05:25] <roylez> BuMangHuo: 可以加更多颜色支持，不过目前我懒得写...
[05:25] <BuMangHuo> onlylove: 我说了，没错的
[05:26] <BuMangHuo> onlylove: 你从你的理解范围猜差不多都不会错
[05:26] <BuMangHuo> onlylove: 那个小黄人损失得就那么划算
[05:26] <^k^> 暂无新帖 讲个笑话吧: http://xiaohua.zol.com.cn/detail1/13216.html 100美元 : 一阔少问酒店的侍者:"你最多一次得过多少小费?" "100美元,"侍者答到。 阔少立即掏出200美元递给侍者:"下次再有人问你谁给的小费最多时,可别忘了提我的名字。对了,那100美元是谁给你的?" "也是您,先生。"侍者说。
[05:26] <^k^> ─>
[05:30] <^k^> 新 手机和平板 • Ubuntu Touch适配机型以及一些信息 http://forum.ubuntu.org.cn/viewtopic.php?t=469531 Ubuntu Touch适配机型以及一些信息 https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/Devices zz: ubuntu526 — 2015-04-15 13:29
[05:30] <nyfair> 你们这群绅士，就一天不见居然要买杯子了
[05:36] <onlylove_> nyfair: 我们只是在讨论相机拍手办是否用微距镜头而已
[05:37] <onlylove_> nyfair: 至于杯子，完全是因为有人喊没手办，我临时找个充数的
[05:38] <nyfair> onlylove: 我不听我不听
[05:39] <onlylove_> nyfair: 不听的话，弄个邪神saber给我呗？
[05:39] <nyfair> onlylove_: 老司机陪我玩游戏
[05:39] <onlylove_> nyfair: 没时间玩游戏啊，现在一下班就困，回去就躺，然后早上还起不来
[05:39] <nyfair> onlylove_: 别上班了，找蛋壕包养
[05:42] <BuMangHuo> nyfair: 你玩的啥游戏啊
[05:42] <BuMangHuo> onlylove_: 来，一起玩梦幻西游手机版
[05:42] <onlylove_> BuMangHuo: 484傻
[05:42] <onlylove_> BuMangHuo: wow出手机版考虑下
[05:43] <BuMangHuo> onlylove_: 我玩了一个周了
[05:43] <BuMangHuo> onlylove_: 现在升级升不动了，没意思
[05:48] <jackness> 现在有什么好项目啊？
[05:49] <BuMangHuo> 好项目？
[05:49] <BuMangHuo> 登月计划？
[05:50] <nyfair> BuMangHuo: 有什么玩什么啊
[05:50] <nyfair> BuMangHuo: 你可以看我twitch页
[05:51] <nyfair> BuMangHuo: 最近在玩洛英 ck2 poe doa5
[05:51] <nyfair> BuMangHuo: 还有个棒子游戏mirror war
[05:52] <jackness> 额。。。你们都在玩游戏啊
[05:52] <jackness> 我推荐大天使之剑
[05:52] <nyfair> jackness: 屠龙宝刀点击送否？
[05:53] <jackness> BuMangHuo: 登月计划哪是我们能完成的啊？
[05:53] <jackness> nyfair: 要花钱的
[05:53] <jackness> nyfair: 现在的网页游戏都要花钱
[05:53] <BuMangHuo> 有油腻的师姐就好了啊
[05:53] <jackness> nyfair: 所以我都不怎么玩了
[05:53] <BuMangHuo> 要啥屠龙刀
[05:54] <jackness> BuMangHuo: 人家想PK模式一下砍死一个人的那种宝刀
[06:00] <nyfair> BuMangHuo: 油腻的师姐一点不好，doa5大法好多了
[06:02] <jackness> nyfair: doa5大法什么意思
[06:02] <jackness> nyfair: dota游戏里面的大法师？
[06:06] <nyfair> jackness: dota是那个抄袭lol的垃圾游戏？
[06:06] <nyfair> jackness: doa都不知道，这年头小学生真是越来越多了
[06:07] <nyfair> 脱裤魔啊
[06:21] <BuMangHuo> nnnd, git.oschina.net 现在咋这么慢了
[06:21] <alvin_rxg> Title: Git@OSC代码托管-开源中国社区 (@ oschina.net)
[06:23] <nyfair> 麻蛋，2年没关心mame了，现在都能玩大复活了
[06:25] <iIlL10Oo> http://kernel.ubuntu.com/~kernel-ppa/mainline/v4.0-vivid/ 这网址够隐藏的啊，啥时候加个 i686的编译？
[06:25] <^k^> ⇪ ti: Ubuntu - Kernel Team Server
[06:28] <iIlL10Oo> http://kernel.ubuntu.com/~kernel-ppa/mainline/ 这里太长了，可以分目录
[06:38] <tenzu> 还是这么多人，不说话
[06:38] <QiongMangHuo> tenzu: 拜教授
[06:38] <QiongMangHuo> tenzu: 我也想吃河豚
[06:38] <tenzu> QiongMangHuo: 阿当，你去南京吃吧
[06:39] <QiongMangHuo> iMadper: 那个i2c, 我查到他们之前就跟rh提过这个需求... rh的解决方案是, 一看到你运行i2c-detect就赶紧先加载模块 =,=
[06:40] <iMadper> QiongMangHuo: 怎么查到的?
[06:40] <QiongMangHuo> iMadper: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=913203
[06:41] <iMadper> ... ...
[06:41] <^k^> ⇪ ti: Bug 913203 – Load i2c-dev module when i2cdetect is executed
[06:42] <QiongMangHuo> iMadper: 在list里rh工程师说了这是一个"request"
[06:45] <QiongMangHuo> iMadper: rh工程师真是太机智了..
[06:45] <iMadper> QiongMangHuo: 是啊.
[06:46] <nyfair> oschina的git连qq登录都不支持，不说啥了
[06:47] <freeflying> iMadper: 这大半夜的你不碎觉啊
[06:48] <iMadper> freeflying: ??? 现在几点?
[06:49] <freeflying> iMadper: 你那边不是晚上23:49?
[06:49] <iMadper> freeflying: 我在东三环
[06:49] <iMadper> freeflying: 东三环跟东五环时差这么大了?
[06:50] <QiongMangHuo> iMadper: 他以为你和白老板渡蜜月去了
[06:50] <iMadper> QiongMangHuo: 啥? freeflying 以为我跟你的白老板出去了?
[06:51] <iMadper> QiongMangHuo: 我写了个udev, 不好用, 不开心
[06:53] <QiongMangHuo> iMadper: udevmonitor test
[06:53] <iMadper> QiongMangHuo: 昂, 现在问题真多... nnnd
[06:56] <onlylove> QiongMangHuo: 你说cherry无冲那个，我这几天有点明白，usb6无冲是usb协议决定的，键盘本身是全无冲的，所以cherry那个只不过是另一个全无冲芯片而已，需要驱动支持
[06:56] <onlylove> QiongMangHuo: 因为很多键盘都是PS2无冲，usb 6 无冲，所以cherry那个，不过是另一个芯片
[07:01] <nyfair> 这年头的键盘还有冲突？
[07:02] <iIlL10Oo> i linux-image-4.0.0-040000-generic - Linux kernel image for version 4.0.0 on 32 bi
[07:02] <iIlL10Oo> 安装好了，重启试试
[07:03] <QiongMangHuo> onlylove: 不是
[07:03] <^k^> 暂无新帖 讲个笑话吧: 清一色 : 在婚姻介绍所里。"小姐,您喜欢黄头发的男人还是黑头发的男人?""我想要红头发的男人！您知道,我家所有家具都是红色的！ "
[07:03] <QiongMangHuo> onlylove: 不是吧...
[07:03] * QiongMangHuo 不懂, 继续忙工作
[07:03] <nyfair> 罗技游戏键盘，全键盘都按下也不锁啊
[07:07] <iIlL10Oo> Linux ub5 4.0.0-040000-generic #201504121935 SMP Sun Apr 12 23:58:08 UTC 2015 i686 i686 i686 GNU/Linux
[07:07] <iIlL10Oo> 完美
[07:07] <iIlL10Oo> Description: Ubuntu 14.04.1 LTS
[07:09] <nyfair> 脑后插管玩游戏
[07:14] <iIlL10Oo> 下次升级不用重启了
[07:19] <onlylove> QiongMangHuo: USB协议下，键盘会以某个固定的回报率（每秒125-1000次），定期向主机发送当前按键的状态，每次发送8个字节，这8个字节的具体内容则是：
[07:19] <onlylove> 第一个字节：8位分别表示左右的Ctrl、Shift、Alt、Win各自是否被按下。这8个键统称为（modifer key），因为规范已经事先定义好每一位的含义，从而得以能够只用一个字节就表示8个键的状态
[07:20] <onlylove> QiongMangHuo: 第二个字节：保留（无用）其余6个字节：当前正按下的6个（一般按键，比如字母、数字等）（如果按了7个以上，根据键盘主控芯片内置的程序，可能取最先按的6个，也可能取最后按的6个）。即每1-8ms，可以发送最多14个按键的状态信息。最多能发送14个按键，扣除Ctrl、Alt、Win、Shift一共8个键外，还剩下6个字母、数字等按键啦。
[07:23] <yunfan> onlylove: hid协议吧
[07:28] <yunfan> onlylove: 我觉得照这个设计 vi这种灵活点 因为那些modifer key数量有限 你又不能设置 A-Z这种按键组合
[07:29] <onlylove> yunfan: 这边说的是硬件……全无冲
[07:29] <onlylove> yunfan: ps2的机械键盘可以做到全无冲的
[07:30] <onlylove> yunfan: 然后现在那些全无冲的USB键盘只能windows系统用
[07:30] <onlylove> yunfan: 换mac或者linux就完蛋
[07:30] <yunfan> onlylove: 什么叫全吴冲?
[07:31] <onlylove> yunfan: 你可以按下全部按键，电脑都能接受到信号，6无冲的话，你按下多于6个，只有前6个或者后6个生效
[07:33] <yunfan> onlylove: 那这个就不好预测了
[07:33] <yunfan> onlylove: 到底是前6个还是后6个就折腾了
[07:34] <iIlL10Oo> 关键是驱动吧
[07:36] <onlylove__> iIlL10Oo: 如果是私有驱动，可以全无冲
[07:36] <onlylove__> iIlL10Oo: 但是用通用驱动，只能6无冲
[07:42] <yunfan> 但 onlylove刚才说协议规定一次只发8字节嘛
[07:45] <^k^> 取新帖 timeout
[07:51] <jussss> 被虚拟机装centos搞烦了
[07:51] <jussss> 累
[07:52] <gebjgd> jussss, 直接Linux多好
[07:54] <jussss> gebjgd: 已经是了
[07:55] <jussss> gebjgd: 在arch上再装个centos，
[07:55] <gebjgd> jussss, 病
[07:56] <gebjgd> jussss, 直接docker LXC
[08:07] <iMadper> QiongMangHuo: https://pastebin.canonical.com/129593/ 帮看看?
[08:08] <^k^> 新 Debian发行版 • Debian 8的发行日期终于定下来了 http://forum.ubuntu.org.cn/viewtopic.php?t=469534 Quote: Jessie Release [08:08] <^k^> ─> 8 - "Jessie". 再等10天吧。 zz: farta — 2015-04-15 16:08
[08:13] <BuMangHuo> iMadper: 哎，周末去哪里啊
[08:13] <iMadper> BuMangHuo: 明天再说
[08:13] <BuMangHuo> 居然发这种点不开的链接
[08:14] <BuMangHuo> iMadper: 咋，还没组装好？
[08:14] <iMadper> BuMangHuo: 现在没时间说
[08:14] <BuMangHuo> ...
[08:14] <BuMangHuo> iMadper: 哦啊
[08:16] <jusss> linux做guest os在虚拟机里简直就是受罪
[08:16] <iotouch> iMadper 养鱼，怎么这么有空，一直上网了
[08:17] <QiongMangHuo> iMadper: 刚回来
[08:24] <BuMangHuo> iotouch: 三天养鱼，两天上网啊
[08:25] <BuMangHuo> 一直养不捕回来那拿什么买买买
[08:26] <onlylove_> jusss: 你可以试着拿centos当桌面，还成
[08:27] * QiongMangHuo 我真得很想说"Who is your daddy now?"........
[08:27] <onlylove_> QiongMangHuo: 请在星际争霸里面讲
[08:27] <BuMangHuo> 这句是加攻击的命令么？ 方便斩人？
[08:28] <BuMangHuo> 还是加钱的
[08:28] <QiongMangHuo> onlylove_: BuMangHuo 没玩过... 这句话算是常用语, 帮了别人的忙或者被别人有求于的时候说...
[08:29] <onlylove_> BuMangHuo: 如果是对战PC，whosyourdaddy意思是无敌
[08:29] <onlylove_> BuMangHuo: 加钱是showmethemoney
[08:30] <QiongMangHuo> onlylove_: 也可以说自己很厉害
[08:30] <iMadper> BuMangHuo: 周末啊, 找个中间位置, 路边摊吃饭. 得看着车别丢
[08:31] <iMadper> BuMangHuo: 你买的什么锁?
[08:32] <jusss> QiongMangHuo: 美剧圣城风云里，一个士兵强x皇后时，说的就是这句话，who is your daddy now?
[08:33] <QiongMangHuo> jusss: 领会精神就好
[08:35] <jusss> QiongMangHuo: 你这么喜欢看权利的游戏，你也一定很重口
[08:37] <QiongMangHuo> jussss: 我还看破产姐妹呢! cc Destine
[08:43] <iMadper> 你们说话能不能注意点儿, 别这么重口....
[08:43] <iMadper> cherrot: 我周末跟 BuMangHuo 去骑车吃饭, 你来不来?
[08:43] <Guest81> hello
[08:44] <^k^> Guest81:点点点. 16:44
[08:44] <Destine> QiongMangHuo, 我也看啊
[08:44] <cherrot> iMadper, 来！
[08:44] <Destine> QiongMangHuo, game of thrones我也看啊。
[08:44] <QiongMangHuo> Destine: 握手
[08:44] <iMadper> happyaron: 你来不来?
[08:44] <QiongMangHuo> iMadper: cherrot 我没车... 我也想去
[08:45] <iMadper> QiongMangHuo: 你租车来啊
[08:45] <cherrot> QiongMangHuo, 你租车来啊
[08:45] <QiongMangHuo> iMadper: 周六爬山 这周就算了
[08:45] <Guest81> 去哪玩 你们
[08:45] <QiongMangHuo> iMadper: 主要是想见千人斩
[08:45] <iMadper> QiongMangHuo: 千人斩是男的啊
[08:45] <iMadper> QiongMangHuo: 你的基佬心就不能收敛点儿?
[08:45] <QiongMangHuo> iMadper: 尼码
[08:45] <cherrot> iMadper, 这是要拜码头么
[08:45] <Guest81> 。
[08:45] <iMadper> Destine: founder, 有没有办法让李老板kick不了我?
[08:45] <Destine> QiongMangHuo, 我看得多了。。。我同时追着十几部。。。
[08:46] <cherrot> iMadper, 骑哪吃饭？沟里？
[08:46] <cherrot> Destine, 不会人格分裂么。。
[08:46] <iMadper> cherrot: 得找个路边摊吃, 能看着自行车...
[08:46] <Destine> iMadper, 不太行。。。他也可以kick我。。。
[08:46] <Destine> cherrot, 不会。
[08:46] <iMadper> Destine: ... ...
[08:46] <cherrot> iMadper, 还是骑去你家吧
[08:46] <iMadper> cherrot: 你这身板, 没这体力吧
[08:46] <Destine> iMadper, kick这个事。。。无所谓吧？
[08:47] <cherrot> iMadper, 你家南几环？
[08:47] <iMadper> cherrot: 五环外
[08:47] <iMadper> Destine: 还是有的
[08:47] <iMadper> Destine: 会刷屏, 很烦
[08:47] <cherrot> iMadper, 是有点悲惨
[08:47] <Destine> iMadper, 哦。
[08:47] <Destine> QiongMangHuo, 那你尽量不要kick iMadper 吧。
[08:47] <iMadper> Destine: 我本来就眼花
[08:47] <QiongMangHuo> 我尽量
[08:47] <happyaron> iMadper: 没空去啊
[08:48] <nyfair> who is your daddy不是帝国时代2的秘籍么
[08:48] <nyfair> 你们这群没有童年的渣渣
[08:49] <cherrot> iMadper, 吃个饭然后让 BuMangHuo 带我们大保健
[08:49] <Destine> nyfair, 不是星际么？
[08:49] <BuMangHuo> iMadper: 我买的是那个立兆的四节的
[08:49] <jussss> happyaron: debian阿里云的源地址是？
[08:49] <iMadper> BuMangHuo: 好.
[08:49] <BuMangHuo> cherrot: 大大大大保健
[08:49] <BuMangHuo> iMadper: 但是现在后悔了
[08:49] <BuMangHuo> iMadper: 我想再买个小的
[08:49] <iMadper> BuMangHuo: 为啥/
[08:49] <iMadper> BuMangHuo: 沉?
[08:50] <BuMangHuo> iMadper: 锁起来费事儿，比如你在路边喝个豆汁儿，不锁不放心，锁那么结实不至于
[08:50] <Destine> nyfair, bigdaddy才是吧。
[08:50] <iMadper> BuMangHuo: http://item.taobao.com/item.htm?spm=a230r.1.14.57.ylNuWx&id=20005185917&ns=1&abbucket=2#detail
[08:50] <^k^> iMadper: ⇪ 日本自行车配件 corin五轮后一体车锁 固定锁 马蹄锁-淘宝网 pp: 25.00
[08:51] <BuMangHuo> iMadper: 所以我想买个那种密码的小的，不用钥匙，在路边摊吃早餐烤串儿之类的，随便一锁意思意思
[08:51] <iMadper> BuMangHuo: http://item.taobao.com/item.htm?spm=2013.1.1998246701.5.6K1JEC&scm=1007.10152.5624.i20005185917&id=39157191825&pvid=ff3b407b-2ab5-4354-b2c6-ad105698038d
[08:51] <^k^> iMadper: ⇪ 日本自行车原装配件 corin五轮前后一体车锁 前叉及后锁-淘宝网 pp: 120.00
[08:51] <BuMangHuo> iMadper: 之前在看碟刹锁，但这玩意儿不放心，万一自己或者不长眼的推起来走两步，刹车给弄坏了不够心疼的
[08:52] <cherrot> BuMangHuo, 让你作
[08:52] <happyaron> jussss: mirrors.aliyun.com/debian
[08:52] <alvin_rxg> Title: Index of /debian/ (@ aliyun.com)
[08:52] <iMadper> BuMangHuo: 有道理.
[08:52] <BuMangHuo> cherrot: 不过那天看到一个思路，直接锁油碟刹车的，好像不错
[08:52] <cherrot> 买个蓝牙锁
[08:52] <BuMangHuo> 锁起来之后，相当与把刹车捏死了
[08:53] <BuMangHuo> cherrot: 没电了就得找人开锁了？
[08:53] <happyaron> 这种车还是别买锁为上啊
[08:53] <happyaron> 买了锁就有丢的可能
[08:53] <BuMangHuo> happyaron: 人锁是吧
[08:53] <happyaron> BuMangHuo: yep
[08:53] <cherrot> BuMangHuo, 这种不错 其实就是看撬锁难度高不高了
[08:54] <BuMangHuo> happyaron: 所以就是要有个便携的，简单好锁的
[08:54] <iMadper> BuMangHuo: 我的不是油碟刹, 是机械刹
[08:54] <iMadper> BuMangHuo: ... ... 我的车便宜啊
[08:54] <BuMangHuo> happyaron: 对应我说的路边临时停一两分钟的
[08:54] <happyaron> BuMangHuo: 那样就有丢的可能
[08:54] <cherrot> iMadper, 周末找个离修车店近的地方 我要换后轮
[08:54] <happyaron> BuMangHuo: 人锁的关键就是别用其他锁
[08:54] <tryit> QiongMangHuo, iMadper BuMangHuo 请教如何禁用某一个网卡，不卸载驱动的情况下，udev规则如何写?
[08:54] <cherrot> iMadper, 后轮老化漏气 轴承貌似也碎了
[08:55] <tryit> cc happyaron cherrot
[08:55] <BuMangHuo> happyaron: 但是那也太不放心了
[08:55] <happyaron> tryit: 不知道
[08:55] <cherrot> iMadper, 啊 对 我只能周日了。。。周六上班 擦
[08:55] <happyaron> BuMangHuo: 越不放心就越不会丢啊
[08:55] <BuMangHuo> happyaron: 给烤串摊老板付钱等找零的一会儿
[08:55] <BuMangHuo> happyaron: 有把简单的锁还是比较安心对吧
[08:55] <iMadper> tryit: ENV{ID_VENDOR_ID}=="xxxx", ENV{ID_MODEL_ID}=="xxxx", RUN+="/sbin/ifdown xxxx"
[08:55] <happyaron> BuMangHuo: 骑着
[08:55] <BuMangHuo> happyaron: 那也太作了
[08:55] <happyaron> BuMangHuo: 问 freeflying
[08:55] <happyaron> BuMangHuo: 他就那样
[08:56] <happyaron> BuMangHuo: 至今没丢
[08:56] <happyaron> 哈哈
[08:56] <tryit> iMadper, 让用户看不到设备， ip a 的时候
[08:56] <iMadper> tryit: 那我不知道...
[08:56] <BuMangHuo> happyaron: 还有，像我们厂，有个车棚
[08:56] <BuMangHuo> happyaron: 不锁人管理员不行，锁太结实没啥意义
[08:56] <happyaron> BuMangHuo: 。。。
[08:56] <BuMangHuo> 所以刚才 iMadper 推荐的那个好像还可以
[08:56] <tryit> iMadper, usb设备在/sys下有个authorized文件，但是net设备没有……
[08:57] <onlylove_> Destine: 拜玩过星际和帝国时代的妹子
[08:58] <BuMangHuo> freeflying: 来讲解一下单车防盗知识
[08:58] <tryit> iMadper, 网上有很多说用OPTIONS="ignore_device"，但是我的man udev里没有ignore_device这个选项
[08:58] <onlylove_> BuMangHuo: 带着走
[08:58] <BuMangHuo> happyaron， freeflying 其实不能说是防盗吧，只能说是延迟被盗时间技巧 cc onlylove_ iMadper
[08:59] <onlylove_> BuMangHuo: 不要让车离开你的视线
[08:59] <onlylove_> BuMangHuo: 就像信用卡一样
[08:59] <BuMangHuo> onlylove_: 但是我刚说的那种情况怎么办
[08:59] <iMadper> onlylove_: 信用卡放口袋里啦~
[08:59] <BuMangHuo> onlylove_: 可能离开5秒钟
[08:59] <onlylove_> iMadper: 车折起来
[08:59] <onlylove_> iMadper: 然后背着
[08:59] <iMadper> onlylove_: 你试试?
[08:59] <BuMangHuo> iMadper: 你的也是红色的？
[08:59] <iMadper> BuMangHuo: 昂.
[09:00] <onlylove_> iMadper: 铝合金车架，很轻的
[09:00] <BuMangHuo> onlylove_: 不轻啊
[09:00] <BuMangHuo> onlylove_: 变速器、车闸之类的
[09:00] <onlylove_> BuMangHuo: 边玩去，我家小伙伴的美利达我还是拎过的
[09:00] <BuMangHuo> iMadper: 还是线刹靠谱
[09:00] <cherrot> 花两万买个碳纤维 小指头直接拎起来
[09:01] <iMadper> BuMangHuo: 为啥? 不是油碟刹好?
[09:01] <cherrot> BuMangHuo, 难道还有无线刹？
[09:01] <BuMangHuo> iMadper: 路上万一哟点啥故障， 一把螺丝刀基本能搞定
[09:01] <onlylove_> cherrot: 拜碳纤维壕
[09:01] <iMadper> cherrot: 全碳的也要9千克左右.
[09:01] <cherrot> BuMangHuo, 必然油碟刹啊
[09:01] <cherrot> BuMangHuo, 现在都是快拆啊哥
[09:01] <cherrot> BuMangHuo, 螺丝刀都能省
[09:01] <BuMangHuo> cherrot: 万一刹车路上怀了
[09:01] <happyaron> iMadper: 9kg那是low bee的碳车
[09:01] <BuMangHuo> 坏了
[09:01] <iMadper> cherrot: 油碟刹需要调
[09:01] <BuMangHuo> 看着输入法 !! happyaron
[09:01] <happyaron> BuMangHuo: 怎么的
[09:01] <iMadper> 看着输入法 !! happyaron
[09:02] <happyaron> BuMangHuo: 我用着没问题就行了
[09:02] <happyaron> iMadper: ^^^^^^^^^^^
[09:02] <onlylove_> happyaron: 他说看这输入法
[09:02] <cherrot> BuMangHuo, 我在想油碟刹什么情况下会坏
[09:02] <BuMangHuo> happyaron: 你不打 怀了？ 事后？
[09:02] <happyaron> 石猴无所谓，坏了没问题
[09:02] <happyaron> 哈哈
[09:02] <iMadper> BuMangHuo: 毛, 明明时候出来的是石猴
[09:02] <BuMangHuo> cherrot: 管子不小心被树枝划破？
[09:02] <cherrot> happyaron, 怀了石猴
[09:02] <happyaron> cherrot: 你怀了石猴？
[09:02] <BuMangHuo> cherrot: 好大的能力
[09:02] <onlylove_> cherrot: 拜悟空他妈 cc happyaron
[09:02] <happyaron> cherrot: 好大的能力
[09:03] <BuMangHuo> cherrot: 漏油？
[09:03] <happyaron> cherrot: 拜悟空他妈
[09:03] <onlylove_> happyaron: 赶紧拜
[09:03] <happyaron> onlylove_: 拜了
[09:03] <jussss> vbox里的debian终于能用扩展包了
[09:03] <cherrot> BuMangHuo, 没研究过碟刹 没见过油管 =。=
[09:03] <onlylove_> jussss: 一直能用好么，别逗
[09:03] <onlylove_> jussss: 我刚到北京那时候就能
[09:03] <onlylove_> jussss: 三年了
[09:03] <BuMangHuo> cherrot: 你的 770 难不成是脚刹？
[09:03] <BuMangHuo> 777？
[09:04] <jussss> onlylove_: arch里用vbox装debian
[09:04] <iMadper> BuMangHuo: 漏油没得救, 就跟扎线断了一样, 换
[09:04] <onlylove_> jussss: windows里面的vbox和arch里面的vbox是俩vbox么
[09:04] <jussss> arch里用vbox装win非常棒
[09:04] <iMadper> happyaron: 买个钛架吧
[09:04] <BuMangHuo> iMadper: 对啊
[09:05] <jussss> onlylove_: 就是装扩展包，一开始不会
[09:05] <happyaron> http://fmn.rrfmn.com/fmn070/20150415/0825/large_ojUg_db66000082a61e7f.jpg
[09:05] <BuMangHuo> 哎说起快拆，我这中锁轮子的....
[09:05] <happyaron> iMadper: 决定买铝的了
[09:05] <iMadper> happyaron: ... 铝? 小心阿尔兹海默症
[09:06] <onlylove_> happyaron: 拜会说C++的
[09:06] <happyaron> iMadper: 原来你买车是用来吃的
[09:06] <onlylove_> happyaron: 饿了咬一口
[09:06] <BuMangHuo> iMadper: 不过你发的那种锁我有阴影啊，小时候家里的车子各种锁不上
[09:06] <BuMangHuo> 动不动卡不住啊，弹簧出毛病啊之类的
[09:06] <iMadper> BuMangHuo: 买个好的啊.
[09:06] <happyaron> 太牛逼
[09:06] <iMadper> BuMangHuo: 这个方便.
[09:07] <iMadper> happyaron: 你不相信铝离子会从你菊花钻进去?!
[09:07] <BuMangHuo> iMadper: 恩，就要锁车不用钥匙的
[09:07] <cherrot> BuMangHuo, 我只是没关注过
[09:07] <BuMangHuo> 用钥匙锁的都麻烦
[09:07] <happyaron> iMadper: 原来你买车不仅吃，还有这癖好
[09:07] <happyaron> 啧啧
[09:08] <iMadper> BuMangHuo: http://item.taobao.com/item.htm?spm=a1z10.5-c.w4002-3698011495.66.msFIjV&id=38317554339 普利司通这牌子??? 好像听过...
[09:08] <^k^> iMadper: ⇪ 全新普利司通车锁 自行车后锁 原装车锁 标准型正品-淘宝网 pp: 68.00
[09:09] <BuMangHuo> 不知道啊
[09:10] <BuMangHuo> iMadper: 我下班的路上有个山，特别给力
[09:10] <BuMangHuo> 不对，小土包
[09:10] <lysao> 有闲聊的朋友吗
[09:10] <iMadper> BuMangHuo: ... ...
[09:10] <BuMangHuo> 中关村森林公园， 我这两天下班就在那里骑山地
[09:13] <jussss> onlylove_: guest os也安装扩展包了，也设置文件夹共享了，怎么在guest os里访问？
[09:14] <BuMangHuo> iMadper: 你要买哪种？
[09:14] <BuMangHuo> iMadper: 还是人锁？
[09:15] <iMadper> BuMangHuo: 当然要买了, 我在想想
[09:15] <iMadper> BuMangHuo: 我上班要骑, 没锁找死啊
[09:15] <BuMangHuo> iMadper: 长时间停车啊？
[09:15] <BuMangHuo> 这个麻烦
[09:15] <iMadper> BuMangHuo: 昂, 是啊
[09:15] <BuMangHuo> 关键有锁车的地方么
[09:15] <iMadper> BuMangHuo: 有存车处
[09:16] <BuMangHuo> iMadper: 免费的？
[09:16] <iMadper> BuMangHuo: 收费
[09:16] <BuMangHuo> 收费的应该靠谱吧
[09:16] <iMadper> BuMangHuo: 存车费高点儿才好. 一天两块都行, 别给我丢了就好
[09:16] <BuMangHuo> 一般收费停车的都有个虎符的啊
[09:16] <BuMangHuo> 对不上不会让你推出去的
[09:17] <BuMangHuo> 至少不会让人抬出去吧
[09:17] <iMadper> BuMangHuo: 我没去看那个停车处啥样的
[09:17] <iMadper> BuMangHuo: 最好是虎符
[09:23] <QiongMangHuo> iMadper: 十字路口有停车的地儿
[09:23] <iMadper> QiongMangHuo: 收费停车?
[09:23] <QiongMangHuo> iMadper: 是啊
[09:23] <iMadper> QiongMangHuo: 昂...
[09:24] <QiongMangHuo> iMadper: 西南角
[09:24] <iMadper> QiongMangHuo: 我去看看去
[09:41] <^k^> 暂无新帖 讲个笑话吧: 夫父母,何物也 : 某公任一县童子试卷监阅。卷题取四书上一句"父母在"。内有一卷,破题为 :"夫父母,何物也?"公大笑,批文其上:"父,阳物也；母,阴物也；阴阳不 和生你这怪物也。
[10:09] <BuMangHuo> 这天气
[10:57] <jusss> 我擦，这沙尘暴
[11:06] <^k^> 暂无新帖 讲个笑话吧: http://i4.xiaohua.fd.zol-img.com.cn/t_s600x5000/g4/M0A/0B/00/Cg-4WlI2pbyIdDVfAADwMhsgOtgAALrNAFllTcAAPBK974.jpg 据说这是摸奶门的升级版
[11:19] <jackness> 大家晚上好啊！
[11:23] <jackness> ubuntu的手机哪里可以买啊？
[11:35] <jussss> onlylove__: 这沙尘暴
[11:35] <jussss> 好大
[12:28] * ^k^ 3.18.7-gentoo #1 SMP Sun Mar 29 16:15:47 CST 2015 ruby 2.3.0dev (2015-03-29 trunk 50111) [i686-linux]
[12:46] <MSErgo4K> BuMangHuo: http://product.suning.com/0070076553/125828314.html?utm_source=union&utm_medium=C&utm_campaign=4410&utm_content=4303 要不要凑单
[12:46] <^k^> ⇪ ti: 【膳魔师(THERMOS)水壶/水杯】膳魔师 Thermos0.6L真空断热保温保冷杯JDA-600 S 银色【价格 图片 品牌 报价】-苏宁易购 pp: ¥ 1999.00
[12:46] <MSErgo4K> BuMangHuo: 两件免运费, 比自己海淘划算
[12:50] <Dio_> hi
[12:50] <^k^> Dio_:点点点. 20:50
[12:52] <MSErgo4K> Dio_: .
[12:53] <Dio_> : )
[13:04] <QiongMangHuo> MSErgo4K: 1999???
[13:04] <MSErgo4K> QiongMangHuo: 啥???
[13:04] <MSErgo4K> QiongMangHuo: kk的报价不能信啊.....
[13:04] <MSErgo4K> QiongMangHuo: 120嘛
[13:04] <QiongMangHuo> MSErgo4K: 昂
[13:05] <MSErgo4K> QiongMangHuo: 保冷, 广口, 直接把冰可乐倒进去喝, 过会儿还是冰的, 多开心
[13:08] <QiongMangHuo> MSErgo4K: 看了下CLion的视频, 好复杂啊... 功能好多, 帮你写signature, 帮你重构, 帮你...
[13:09] <MSErgo4K> QiongMangHuo: 其实吧, 写c真没必要用这种工具. 写
[13:09] <MSErgo4K> QiongMangHuo: 因为clang做的很好了
[13:09] <MSErgo4K> QiongMangHuo: 但是别的复杂的语言就不行了
[13:09] <QiongMangHuo> MSErgo4K: C++的话赶紧需要
[13:09] <MSErgo4K> QiongMangHuo: c++有clang++ lol~
[13:09] <MSErgo4K> QiongMangHuo: java就没戏了...
[13:10] <MSErgo4K> QiongMangHuo: 我现在一直在学java, 很好用感觉
[13:10] <QiongMangHuo> MSErgo4K: Java太麻烦了, 写个小程序, framework是核心代码的好几倍长...
[13:11] <MSErgo4K> QiongMangHuo: 那也只是小程序. 写大了就发现了, java代码量比py少多了
[13:11] <QiongMangHuo> MSErgo4K: 牛牛~
[13:11] <MSErgo4K> QiongMangHuo: java大法好, 退c保平安
[13:12] * MSErgo4K 那么问题来了, 究竟是java好还是php好呢?
[13:12] <QiongMangHuo> MSErgo4K: 快被内核代码乱飞结构体指针给烦死了, 代码太难读
[13:13] <MSErgo4K> QiongMangHuo: 指针是阻碍人类进步的绊脚石
[13:13] <MSErgo4K> QiongMangHuo: 另外一个绊脚石就是文档跟代码不同步.
[13:13] <QiongMangHuo> 还以为是马赛克...
[13:14] <MSErgo4K> QiongMangHuo: 还是商业软件有前途.
[13:14] <MSErgo4K> QiongMangHuo: 不过zing他nnnnd卖这么贵搞毛啊!!!
[13:16] <jusss> MSErgo4K: py3 192.23234234 - 23.3234234234324 这种小数点多的能计算不
[13:16] <MSErgo4K> jusss: 你试过没?
[13:17] <jusss> 貌似可以
[13:18] <jusss> 不过我要计算时间差，unix时间太长，怕做减法不能判断
[13:18] <hoxily`> jusss: 当然能
[13:18] <hoxily`> jusss: 用 decimal.Decimal 类
[13:18] <jusss> hoxily`: 180s 换成unix时间是多少
[13:19] <jusss> epol还是什么的
[13:19] <jusss> hoxily`: 我在写以前的那个imap idle邮件提醒
[13:20] <hoxily`> jusss: epoch
[13:21] <tryit> MSErgo4K, ...
[13:22] <void1> php是世界上最好的语言 XD
[13:22] <jusss> hoxily`: 帮我算下180秒的epoch数是多岁
[13:22] <jusss> 多少
[13:23] <hoxily`> jusss: firefox 或者 chrome里Console输入 new Date(180)你就知道了。
[13:23] <jusss> 没打开过浏览器的console
[13:23] <hoxily`> jusss: Ctrl+Shift+C
[13:24] <hoxily`> jusss: Ctrl+Shift+K
[13:24] <QiongMangHuo> MSErgo4K: http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00ORLBLDI/
[13:24] <^k^> ⇪ ti: Amazon.com: CafePress Use Linux Ash Grey T-Shirt T-Shirt Light T-Shirt: Clothing
[13:26] <jusss> 你直接告诉我多好。。。
[13:27] <hoxily> jusss: 要不用这个网站
[13:27] <hoxily> http://www.epochconverter.com/
[13:27] <^k^> ⇪ ti: Epoch Converter - Unix Timestamp Converter
[13:29] <jusss> 我要的是180s换成epoch那种差是多少，不是要怎么去转成epoch, 直接告诉我epoch就是秒，我就直接用180了就行了，也不这么麻烦了
[13:29] <hoxily> jusss: epoch单位是秒啊？
[13:30] <hoxily> jusss: 你竟然不知道epoch的计量单位是秒？
[13:31] <hoxily> 我以为你想知道epoch时刻点为180的时刻，是什么时候。
[13:38] <jusss> hoxily: 我记忆力超差
[13:38] <hoxily> jusss: 要多复习
[13:39] <jusss> hoxily: 我还写过使用过epoch的函数，用bash,定时启动系统通过bios, 我记不住
[13:40] <jusss> 因为以前有鼻炎，记忆力很差，虽然后来做手术治好了，现在记忆力也不好
[13:41] <jusss> 学习也差，一直是垫底的
[14:01] <freeflying> MSErgo4K: 早上好
[14:03] <MSErgo4K> freeflying: ... 候总你在哪儿?
[14:03] <freeflying> MSErgo4K: 顺义啊
[14:04] <MSErgo4K> freeflying: 哦, 我在通州... 你们顺义现在是早上?
[14:04] <jusss> freeflying: 你们那现在早上了？
[14:05] <freeflying> MSErgo4K: 你是在德州吧
[14:05] <MSErgo4K> freeflying: 你看我ip...
[14:05] <MSErgo4K> 124.126.177.136
[14:05] <^k^> MSErgo4K, 124.126.177.136 北京市 电信
[14:05] <freeflying> MSErgo4K: 那你看我ip还天天在az呢
[14:05] <MSErgo4K> freeflying: 那你觉得我是买了个北京的vps吗?
[14:06] <jusss> 德州是德州扒鸡的那个德州，还是德州电锯的那个德州
[14:06] <MSErgo4K> jusss: 黑龙江德州
[14:06] <MSErgo4K> jusss: 德州康籁那个德州
[14:07] <freeflying> MSErgo4K: 为了看视频啊
[14:07] <hamo> MSErgo4K: 德州大学的那个德州
[14:07] * hamo 求北京vps
[14:07] <MSErgo4K> hamo: hamo乖
[14:07] <freeflying> hamo: 你们又住AT&T的会议中心啊
[14:08] <hamo> freeflying: 没啊, westin啊
[14:08] <freeflying> hamo: 高大上啊
[14:08] <MSErgo4K> hamo: 这次你们不在, 忙死我了
[14:08] <hamo> freeflying: 后悔没去搞个spg的会籍了...
[14:08] <hamo> MSErgo4K: 赞模范员工
[14:08] <MSErgo4K> happyaron: ... ...
[14:09] <MSErgo4K> hamo: ...
[14:09] <freeflying> hamo: 你那是旅行社顶过去的，不算QS
[14:09] <MSErgo4K> hamo: 今天开会有个不好的消息.
[14:09] <hamo> MSErgo4K: 说出来开心一下
[14:09] <MSErgo4K> hamo: 组会说的, 哎, 不开心
[14:10] <hamo> MSErgo4K: 好吧, 我也不开心了
[14:10] <^k^> 新 常用硬件支持 • 安装Ubuntu14.04后电脑屏幕上的英文很不清楚,是怎么回事? http://forum.ubuntu.org.cn/viewtopic.php?t=469537 上一周刚刚买了一台宏基台式电脑，相关链接：http://item.jd.com/1164910.html，买回来后电脑中有预装的 Windows8.1，一切正常。我把win8.1用Ubuntu14.04LTS替代后，发现开机后屏幕上的
[14:10] <^k^> ─> 英文字体相当的模糊。请问如何解决，谢谢！ zz: luweidong — 2015-04-15 21:31
[14:10] <MSErgo4K> hamo: sigh... ...
[14:13] <jusss> hamo: 你又去米国了呀，拍几张白人小妞的果照分享下
[14:13] <hamo> jusss: 黑人大妈要不?
[14:13] <jusss> hamo: 不要，我不重口
[14:14] <hamo> jusss: 那么有了
[14:14] <hamo> freeflying: 你也在出差?
[14:19] <saimazoon> nihao
[14:19] <saimazoon> zheli bukeyi da zhongwenzi
[14:20] <MSErgo4K> hamo: 你哪儿来的黑人大妈的果照???
[14:20] <hamo> MSErgo4K: 毛果照
[14:20] <hamo> MSErgo4K: 网上有啊
[14:20] <MSErgo4K> hamo: 从没看见过....
[14:20] <MSErgo4K> hamo: 果然还是你重口
[14:20] * hamo 无心吹水...
[14:21] <MSErgo4K> hamo: mendeleydesktop蛮好用的
[14:22] <hamo> MSErgo4K: 这又是啥?
[14:22] <XTpeeps> saimazoon, 你的客户端不一样
[14:22] <MSErgo4K> hamo: 用来整理电子文档的东西
[14:22] <MSErgo4K> hamo: 对了, 你哪天回来上班?
[14:22] <MSErgo4K> hamo: 办公室没人跟我玩百战天虫了
[14:25] <hamo> MSErgo4K: 找李老板啊
[14:25] <MSErgo4K> hamo: 他! 没! .1! 网! 段! 的! ip!
[14:25] <MSErgo4K> 不对, 他有
[14:25] <hamo> MSErgo4K: 不可能...他从来都是连线的
[14:25] <MSErgo4K> hamo: 好好好!
[14:25] <MSErgo4K> hamo: 明天虐杀他
[14:26] * MSErgo4K 我的心已经饥渴难耐!
[14:28] <^k^> 新 新闻和通知 • 诺基亚已死？呵呵，人家刚宣布156亿欧元收购阿朗，准备叫板华为呢 http://forum.ubuntu.org.cn/viewtopic.php?t=469539 诺基亚的大新闻，真是久违了，只可惜不是N记粉丝们心心念念的回归手机市场，而是此前收购阿朗的传闻终于被证实，这里诺基亚的身份是电信设备制造商。 北
[14:29] * XTpeeps 2233
[14:34] <tryit> MSErgo4K, .
[14:35] <MSErgo4K> tryit: .
[14:36] <tryit> MSErgo4K, udeb如何在一个sata盘挂载时不指定挂载点
[14:36] <MSErgo4K> tryit: 用udisk2
[14:37] <MSErgo4K> tryit: run+="udiskctl mount -b /dev/sdx"
[14:37] <MSErgo4K> tryit: dev/sdx应该有变量可以表示吧
[14:37] <tryit> MSErgo4K, 不指定挂载点
[14:38] <MSErgo4K> tryit: 对啊, 不指定挂载点啊
[14:38] <tryit> MSErgo4K, 也就是设备对用户不可见
[14:38] <MSErgo4K> tryit: 啊... 这叫不指定挂载点啊... 那我不知道了... 可以吗?
[14:38] <tryit> MSErgo4K, 你太低调了
[14:39] <MSErgo4K> ...
[14:39] <tryit> MSErgo4K, ...我说错了
[14:39] <MSErgo4K> tryit: 不指定挂载点, 怎么访问?
[14:39] <tryit> MSErgo4K, 实际上是不指定设备在文件系统中对应的文件
[14:39] <tryit> MSErgo4K, 就是让用户不能访问
[14:39] <tryit> MSErgo4K, 售后调试时使用的设备
[14:40] <hamo> MSErgo4K, 你太低调了
[14:40] <MSErgo4K> tryit: 那我不知道了... ... ...
[14:40] <MSErgo4K> hamo: 乖.
[14:40] <tryit> MSErgo4K, 你隐藏得太深了，感觉懂好多东西……
[14:41] <MSErgo4K> tryit: ... google的...
[14:41] <hamo> MSErgo4K, 你隐藏得太深了，感觉懂好多东西……
[14:41] <tryit> hamo, ......
[14:43] * Administrator_ test
[14:43] <^k^> 新 初学者园地 - 14.10 • 一个帖子发了三天，没有人知道解决办法 http://forum.ubuntu.org.cn/viewtopic.php?t=469541 3天前，发了个关于Ubuntu 14.10 安装的 MyEclipse 10自动关闭的帖子，err_log下所有错误信息，都贴出来了，没有人理睬 zz: 舆風倾诉 — 2015-04-15 22:42
[14:46] * xtpeeps hi
[14:46] <^k^> 新 系统安装和升级 • 关于升级的一点建议 http://forum.ubuntu.org.cn/viewtopic.php?t=469542 在系统升级时能不能不下载 升级 下载 再升级,升级到一半又去下载,既看不到网络状态,又看不到下载进度,不知道系统当前的状态了，让人误以为安装失败了 zz: Hhhccc — 2015-04-15 22:44
[14:48] <^k^> 新 常用硬件支持 • 突然打印不了了，打印时状态显示not connected,然后是processing http://forum.ubuntu.org.cn/viewtopic.php?t=469543 我在实验室，通过网络连接打印机打印 最开始是通过http://localhost:631/ 添加和设置打印机 打印机是Kyocera Kyocera TASKalfa 5500i (KPDL) 以前打印正常 最近开始打印不了了 打印
[16:19] * xtpeeps kill me
[20:00] <gebjgd> knownbad, 最近怎么不见你说话
[20:06] <knownbad> 感冒了。
[20:26] <mugebjgd> knownbad, 你没感冒的时候也没见你出来啊
[20:27] <mugebjgd> alvin_rxg, 最近怎么样？
[20:27] <mugebjgd> knownbad, 松鼠也没出来
[20:53] <mugebjgd> knownbad, 你老婆还没怀孕？
[21:24] <knownbad> ...
[21:25] <knownbad> mugebjgd: 还没， 松鼠不是工作去了吗？
[21:27] <mugebjgd> knownbad, 你们还想等多久？
[21:29] <knownbad> 妈的，你以为我不想要？
[21:29] <knownbad> 是不中。
[21:29] <mugebjgd> knownbad, 你老婆有问题吧
[21:29] <mugebjgd> knownbad, 还是考虑换一个吧
[21:31] <knownbad> 懒得换，我看的开但老婆一定要。
[21:31] <mugebjgd> knownbad, 她做了检查了么
[21:32] <mugebjgd> knownbad, 她有问题么
[21:35] <knownbad> 不知道，两人都检查了。
[21:35] <mugebjgd> knownbad, 都检查了你还不知道么
[21:35] <mugebjgd> knownbad, 到底是能下蛋还是不能？
[21:36] <knownbad> 简而言之，公鸡说是母鸡母鸡说是公鸡。
[21:37] <mugebjgd> knownbad, 怎么可能 医生不是有结果么
[21:40] <knownbad> 医生也没结论。
[21:41] <mugebjgd> knownbad, 美国的医生是真次
[21:42] <mugebjgd> knownbad, 你们各自找个人试试看
[21:43] <knownbad> 找你妹。
[21:44] <mugebjgd> knownbad, 我看行
[21:44] <knownbad> 不是一胎吗？
[21:45] <mugebjgd> knownbad, 我有表妹
[21:46] <knownbad> 差多了。
[21:47] <mugebjgd> XwinX, 你回红旗了？
[22:36] <jackness> 大家早上好啊！
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2015-04-15-#ubuntu-app-devel
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[08:24] <AskUbuntu> EVE Application and APIs are not accessible from a different same network machine | http://askubuntu.com/q/609500
[09:47] <nik90> rpadovani: Hi, would you have time to do a code review of https://code.launchpad.net/~nik90/ubuntu-clock-app/fix-location-error-msg/+merge/256230 ?
[09:48] <nik90> popey: Hi, can you also test https://code.launchpad.net/~nik90/ubuntu-clock-app/fix-location-error-msg/+merge/256230 when you get the time? It is concerning the user location shown in the clock app.
[09:48] <popey> sure thing nik90
[09:49] <nik90> popey: thnx. The MP description lists the steps to test it.
[09:49] <popey> i see
[10:02] <popey> looks good nik90
[10:02] <nik90> popey: thnx. I will wait until the end of the day for rpadovani to do a quick code review and then get it merged
[10:03] <popey> kk
[10:03] <popey> nik90: we should talk about a store update plan for clock.
[10:05] <nik90> popey: I have handed the location prompt AP failure issue over to QA. If it gets fixed, it is good to go. I have been updating the clock app changelog pad in parallel.
[10:13] <popey> ok
[10:14] <popey> nik90: who in QA has looked at it?
[10:14] <popey> i.e. "Who touched it last and now owns it"
[10:16] <nik90> popey: I informed balloons about my inability to fix it 2 days ago.
[10:16] <popey> ok, thanks.
[10:19] <Jame> hello ? in indicator-messages-service, there is a line call indicator_messages_service_skeleton_new in the main function of the file src/messages-service.c. please where is from ？
[10:21] <Jame> who can help me ?
[10:35] <dpm> hi bzoltan, zbenjamin, I'm trying to run an existing .qmlproject on the desktop in vivid, but the Play button is grayed out. I've got kits defined and I can run cmake projects with them, but no luck with QML. Any ideas?
[10:36] <zbenjamin> dpm: on the desktop? hm, does your kit maybe lack the Qt?
[10:36] <dpm> what does that exactly mean?
[10:45] <dpm> zbenjamin, ^
[10:46] <zbenjamin> dpm: sorry i chat in multiple channels at the same time :D
[10:46] <zbenjamin> dpm: if you hover over the run button, does it give a reason why its disabled?
[10:46] <zbenjamin> dpm: also maybe there is a hint on the project tab
[10:47] <dpm> zbenjamin, "The project X has no available kit", but I can't assign a kit to it :/
[10:47] <dpm> zbenjamin, the Desktop kit says: "No Qt version set in kit"
[10:47] <zbenjamin> dpm: thats what i mean
[10:47] <dpm> zbenjamin, so how can I fix that?
[10:48] <zbenjamin> dpm: set a qt version in the tools->options->build & run -> kits
[10:49] <dpm> that fixed it, thanks a lot zbenjamin!
[10:52] <zbenjamin> dpm: yw
[11:07] <bzoltan> dpm: mhall119: zsombi_: t1mp: kalikiana: zbenjamin: just published this -> https://developer.ubuntu.com/en/blog/2015/04/15/retrospective-and-roadmap-ui-toolkit/
[11:09] <dpm> bzoltan, wow, nice!
[11:10] <bzoltan> dpm: I got to answer the same questions like dozen of times every week :) So it was a call for this post :)
[11:12] <dpm> popey, could you get together with bzoltan to start scheduling the SDK sessions for UOS?
[11:12] <popey> sure.
[11:13] <bzoltan> dpm: do you think that these blog posts reach all the relevant folks?
[11:14] <popey> bzoltan: do you have a list of sessions already defined?
[11:14] <dpm> bzoltan, that's a very broad question :) I think many app developers are subscribed to Planet Ubuntu or to the blog itself, so it does reach them. The challenge is always to reach outside the Ubuntu community
[11:16] <bzoltan> dpm: I see... But I hope that our highups :) do read these posts. This latest one is an important one for them...
[11:16] <popey> once somene makes a blog post, the community can spam^W promote it
[11:17] <dpm> bzoltan, I've mentioned the blog posts a few times
[11:17] <dpm> popey, bzoltan, here are some suggestions, I'm sure you'll have some more too: http://pad.ubuntu.com/SdkUOS
[11:18] <bzoltan> dpm: Cool ... one not hidden idea behind this post is that community folks see that our plannings do happen in public :)
[11:18] <bzoltan> dpm: popey: sounds good to me
[11:19] <dpm> popey, bzoltan, could you guys start adding the blueprints? It shouldn't take more than a few minutes
[11:20] <popey> bzoltan: if you make the blueprints, I'll setup the sessions in summit
[11:20] <bzoltan> popey: when is the summit?
[11:20] <popey> 5-7 may
[11:21] <dpm> http://summit.ubuntu.com/uos-1505/
[11:34] <AskUbuntu> Can I ask Non-question? | http://askubuntu.com/q/609560
[11:57] <bzoltan> popey: I would need the Wednesday early sessions.
[11:59] <popey> bzoltan: ok. do you have blueprints setup? (add links to that etherpad when you do)
[12:00] <bzoltan> popey: not yet ...still try to figure out how to do them :)
[12:00] <popey> bzoltan: https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu-ui-toolkit/+addspec
[12:05] <bzoltan> popey: thanks ... and done - http://pad.ubuntu.com/SdkUOS
[12:06] <popey> thanks
[12:27] <nik90> bzoltan, zsombi_: Ubuntu.Components.Popups is being deprecated for 1.3?!?
[12:27] <zsombi_> nik90: nope... if it's like that then that's a mistake!
[12:27] <nik90> zsombi_: https://developer.ubuntu.com/en/blog/2015/04/15/retrospective-and-roadmap-ui-toolkit/
[12:28] <nik90> - Deprecate PopupBase (Ubuntu.Components.Popups)
[12:28] <zsombi_> nik90: PopupBase... :)
[12:28] <zsombi_> nik90: we deprecate PopupBase, not the entire popups...
[12:28] <nik90> zsombi_: oh.. that's a relief
[12:29] <zsombi_> nik90: that should be read like that :D
[12:29] <zsombi_> LOL
[12:40] <bzoltan> nik90: got scared, right :D
[12:41] <bzoltan> nik90: by the way, did you find the post useful?
[12:41] <nik90> bzoltan: yes :P considering I just started using more of popups recently
[12:41] <nik90> bzoltan: yeah it gives me a good idea of what the focus is in the near future and how far the SDK has come
[12:42] <bzoltan> nik90: cool... that was the idea :)
[12:42] <nik90> bzoltan: I am really liking how pretty much every sdk dev has started blogging about their work
[12:44] <bzoltan> nik90: It helpes a lot that i am their boss ;)
[12:44] <nik90> :D
[12:44] <bzoltan> nik90: we have a deal that once a week we publish something .. next should be kalikiana and then loicm
[12:45] <nik90> bzoltan: ah that's a nice system..keeps the community aware and engaged with the workings of the SDK
[12:46] <bzoltan> nik90: specially that I am reporting about these areas anyway .. so why not to do it in a more readable way ... facts are facts evenin a blogpost format.
[12:47] <nik90> bzoltan: somehow I feel these blog post have a higher impact than your monthly mailing list reports about the new stuff in the SDK IMO..I guess blogs are more friendly
[12:48] <nik90> and jolla devs and designers seem to be doing the same
[12:48] <bzoltan> nik90: vert true ... and those mails were so corporate like.
[12:48] <nik90> ideally I would love to see OTA updates changelog being presently clearly in a blog post so users can get excited about them..at the moment it is too hard to say what landed in a particular ota
[12:52] <bzoltan> nik90: +1
[12:52] <dholbach> maybe somebody needs to set up an etherpad
[12:52] <dholbach> and start writing
[12:52] <dholbach> and invite others :)
[12:53] <popey> there we go http://pad.ubuntu.com/ChangeLog
[12:53] <popey> did my bit :)
[12:55] <nik90> popey, dholbach: I guess whenever a silo lands in the stable images, the concerned developer can add an entry to the above pad.
[12:56] <popey> I think we might need to pre-seed it with a bunch first
[13:00] <nik90> true
[13:37] <nik90> dpm, dholbach: is there a rss feed for https://developer.ubuntu.com/en/community/blog/ ?
[13:38] <dpm> nik90, https://developer.ubuntu.com/en/blog/feeds/
[13:39] <nik90> dpm: thank you
[14:02] <karni> jdstrand: is there a way I can ask a user to set an env var without making / rw? say, I know there's /etc/environment, but for instance ~/.profile also exists and contains things like GRID_UNIT_PX etc. Are these env vars filtered somehow from app runtime environment?
[14:16] <kalikiana> t1mp: review? https://code.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-sdk-team/ubuntu-ui-toolkit/textDocument/+merge/252798
[14:17] <kalikiana> it was also reviewed by michael from the reminders app - I'm not sure we can do much in terms of testing right now… as it doesn't really add any API, that's up to the Qt API
[17:30] <jdstrand> karni: otoh, I think UAL may need to know what to pass through. perhaps ask ted?
[18:07] <popey> nik90: Elleo new podbird is amazing!
[18:10] <nik90> popey: thnx
[18:13] <NormalGoose> hello people
[18:16] <nik90> popey: you are lightning fast with your bug reports :P
[18:16] <popey> yeah, sorry :)
[18:18] <nik90> lol
[18:18] <popey> This is such a great update.
[18:20] <nik90> Compared to the old listitem design we had in 0.5, the new ones look much compact and efficient.
[18:21] <nik90> I might contemplate moving the action buttons to the swipe actions that is supported by the SDK natively in vivid.
[18:21] <popey> that would be nice
[18:25] <nik90> popey: do you have a better line for the first slide in the welcome wizard? I tried "Enjoy your favourite podcasts with Podbird, podcast manager for Ubuntu" but it feels it is incorrect grammatically.
[18:25] <nik90> and I miss the "one and only podcast manager for ubuntu touch" :P
[18:25] <nik90> it had a very confident ring to it
[18:33] <popey> heh
[18:33] <popey> well it's technically true
[18:33] <popey> "Enjoy your favourite shows with Podbird, the best podcast manager for Ubuntu".
[18:33] <popey> no lies.
[18:35] <dholbach> mhall119, do you know why developer.u.c sometimes logs me out while editing?
[18:35] <nik90> I like that ;)
[18:56] <mhall119> dholbach_: yes and no
[18:57] <mhall119> dholbach_: I'm 99% sure it logs you out because of the middle ware we use to delete session cookies (this was needed to make the china cache efficient, as it stores a copy per cookie)
[18:57] <mhall119> this should only happen for not-logged-in users though, and the middleware checks for the existance of a user associated with the request to make sure it doesn't delete their cookies
[18:58] <dholbach_> do we need a bug report for this?
[18:58] <dholbach_> maybe we have one already?
[18:58] <mhall119> now, I'm > 50% sure that some redirects within DjangoCMS are being triggered before the user is attached to the request object, and so the middleware deletes your session cookie when that happens
[18:58] <mhall119> dholbach_: I don't think we do, but please file one and assign it to me
[18:59] <dholbach_> will do
[18:59] <dholbach_> thanks
[18:59] <mhall119> thank you
[18:59] <dholbach_> mhall119, https://bugs.launchpad.net/developer-ubuntu-com/+bug/1413509
[19:00] <dholbach_> mhall119, it was already filed
[19:00] <dholbach_> Launchpad told me when I wanted to use the exact same bug title
[19:00] <mhall119> heh
[19:01] <mhall119> well, you and the original reporter do think a lot a like
[19:08] <efes> Hi guys, where can I find manual how to report bugs ?
[19:09] <dholbach> efes, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ReportingBugs
[19:09] <efes> dholbach: Thank you :)
[19:10] <efes> is the phone app, itself, written in QML ?
[19:16] <dholbach> efes, the phone consist of many different parts - a lot of them are qml, yes
[19:17] <mhall119> efes: do you mean the dialer app?
[19:17] <efes> mhall119: exactly :)
[19:17] <mhall119> the one that actually makes and receives calls?
[19:18] <mhall119> It's a combination of C++ and QML
[19:18] <efes> I've noticed that there are some cases when phone app (dailer) and messaging app claim I have no (gsm) network connection whilst both indicators show maximum strength of network connection.
[19:18] <mhall119> you can browse the code from it's Launchpad project: https://launchpad.net/dialer-app
[19:19] <efes> Just wanted to plug GDB and see (for my curiosity) where is the problem. I'll report a bug for this if does not exist.
[19:19] <mhall119> thanks efes
[19:19] <efes> I even have some fancy screenshots ;P Thanks mhall119
[20:05] <efes> guys, last one... is there anything like .nomedia on Androids so that gallery app/media scanner skipps that directory ?
[20:21] <ahayzen> efes, yeah it does .nomedia should work
[20:22] <ahayzen> efes, http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~mediascanner-team/mediascanner2/trunk/view/head:/src/mediascanner/utils.cc#L132 http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~mediascanner-team/mediascanner2/trunk/view/head:/src/daemon/scannerdaemon.cc#L192
[20:24] <nik90> jhodapp: ping
[20:25] <jhodapp> nik90, pong
[20:25] <nik90> jhodapp: Does media-hub cache the local file that it was sent to play?
[20:26] <nik90> jhodapp: we have a bug in podbird currently where after starting to play an episode a user deletes the local file and media-hub continues to play it.
[20:26] <nik90> I was curious if media-hub handles that by caching data beforehand.
[20:27] <Elleo> nik90: I'd guess that it just doesn't get actually deleted until after media-hub releases its file handle
[20:28] <nik90> Elleo: ah yes that could be it
[20:28] <jhodapp> nik90, no it does not, it take the URI and streams it right from the original location
[20:28] <jhodapp> *takes
[20:29] <jhodapp> nik90, there must be a cached version of it elsewhere
[20:29] <Elleo> nik90: yeah, quick bit of googling suggests that inodes never get cleaned until there's nothing left holding an open reference to them
[20:30] <Elleo> nik90: so while the file's gone, the inodes are still there until its closed
[20:30] <jhodapp> Elleo, interesting, I never knew that either
[20:30] <Elleo> "file" as in the filename entry in the file system
[20:30] <jhodapp> nik90, just double check that there aren't two copies of that file during playback on the filesystem, and if not then what Elleo said is probably right
[20:31] <Elleo> jhodapp: yeah, I've seen similar behaviour with video players still working after files have been deleted, always figured it was something like that
[20:31] <Elleo> this is the first time I've actually bothered looking it up though
[20:31] <jhodapp> hehe
[20:31] <nik90> Elleo, jhodapp: I just tested and noticed that the local file does get deleted from .local/share/com.mikeasoft.podbird/podcasts
[20:31] <jhodapp> nik90, do you want playback to stop when the file gets deleted?
[20:31] <nik90> so it must be the inodes thing I guess
[20:32] <nik90> jhodapp: to be honest, I have no idea what the user expects from the bug 1444677
[20:32] <nik90> jhodapp: I have asked him for his opinion..personally it is not a bug for me
[20:32] <jhodapp> nik90, mark it as needs more info with a comment then
[20:32] <nik90> yes
[20:32] <Elleo> nik90: yeah, I wouldn't really consider that a bug
[20:33] <jhodapp> nik90, ok, we might get what the user *wants* with the new background playlists I'm working on...one feature would be to remove the file from the tracklist if it gets deleted off of disk
[20:33] <mindspin2015> anybody in the mood to give a noob some hints?
[20:33] <nik90> jhodapp: ack.
[20:33] <Elleo> nik90: even if you paused playback so the file could really be deleted you'd still expect to be able to play it from where you left off as a stream, so to the user it'd be invisible
[20:34] <nik90> Elleo: yes, I think I will give this explanation and mark the bug as invalid
[20:34] <jhodapp> works for me
[20:35] <nik90> thnx for the help
[20:52] <dobey> !ask | mindspin2015
[21:01] <mindspin2015> hehe
[21:03] <mindspin2015> I created a simple html5 app, representing a nothing but some buttons which link to my favorite online magazines. It works fine, but now I will improve it. Is there a way to show the content in a way that its possible to navigate back to the app?
[21:04] <mindspin2015> beside _target Blank
[21:18] <Elleo> nik90: added some comments to https://code.launchpad.net/~nik90/podbird/4-add-welcome-wizard/+merge/254651
[21:18] <Elleo> nik90: feel free to disagree with me on any of those recommendations though ;)
[21:20] <nik90> Elleo: The inline comments are fine, I am not a native english speaker so I did expect some corrections ;-)
[21:20] <Elleo> nik90: well some of them are more opinion than corrections (like the one about "best")
[21:21] <nik90> true
[21:24] <nik90> Elleo: Should I remove the line "As a power user you can also tweak these settings to suit your needs." since the new sentence reads "Podbird can optionally download new episodes and clean up old episodes automatically, this can be enabled from the settings page."
[21:25] <Elleo> nik90: yeah, I reckon so
[21:27] <Elleo> nik90: one last thing I just noticed I think "We hope you enjoy using Podbird" sounds a bit more natural than "We hope you will enjoy using Podbird"
[21:27] <nik90> Elleo: I will change that as well
[21:27] <Elleo> nik90: thanks :)
[21:29] <Elleo> nik90: maybe we should make the "Ubuntu Translators" text a link to http://community.ubuntu.com/contribute/translations/ as well
[21:29] <Elleo> nik90: might encourage more people to get involved in translations in general
[21:29] <nik90> yeah that's a great idea
[21:34] <efes> Guys, I'm confused about that bugs reporing, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ReportingBugs does not specify what is the procedure for Ubuntu Phone. Same as for Desktops ?
[21:35] <nik90> Elleo: pushed
[21:35] <Elleo> nik90: excellent, thanks
[21:36] <Elleo> efes: pretty much, bugs are tracked against their relevant projects in launchpad just like for desktop stuff; you might find this page helpful as it points you to the right project for lots of common components: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Avengers
[21:38] <efes> great :) thx
[21:40] <Elleo> nik90: oh, one other tiny thing, when using onLinkActivated it's a bit neater to do "Qt.openUrlExternally(link);", as the clicked link gets provided as an argument to onLinkActivated
[21:40] <Elleo> nik90: that way you avoid duplicating the link in the code and it works if you have more than one link in a bit of text
[21:41] <nik90> Elleo: would it automatically pass the correct link specified in <a href></a> ?
[21:41] <Elleo> nik90: yeah
[21:41] <nik90> Elleo: oh that's better. Give me a few seconds to update and push
[21:41] <Elleo> nik90: great, thanks :)
[21:44] <nik90> Elleo: pushed
[21:44] <nik90> Elleo: btw do you still have the issue where you see an empty icon in the unity8 dash for podbird?
[21:45] <nik90> the concerned cmake changes was made in this MP.
[21:46] <Elleo> nik90: oh, good point, I've only tried that MP on the desktop so far
[21:46] <nik90> Elleo: I have not being able to reproduce it though. And since popey and a few others tested 0.6.beta and didnt experience, I think its something on your end
[21:49] <Elleo> nik90: works fine on my mako; just trying on my krillin (where I saw it before)
[21:49] <nik90> ok
[21:50] <Elleo> yeah, icon still missing on my krillin; but after doing a manual remove and reinstall it's fine
[21:51] <Elleo> nik90: so nothing specific to your branch
[21:51] <nik90> ah ok
[21:55] <Elleo> nik90: merged :)
[21:55] <nik90> :)
[21:57] <Elleo> nik90: podbirds getting so sweet we should really see about doing some debian packaging and get it into the archive for vivid+1 so desktop users can enjoy it too :)
[21:58] <Elleo> nik90: oh and on a side note I did a whole bunch of webservice stuff for another project over easter that I'll be able to reuse for the podbird.org services
[21:59] <nik90> Elleo: true, adding it shouldn't be too difficult. At one point I was doing that for some community touch apps at https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-touch-community-dev/+archive/ubuntu/ppa
[21:59] <nik90> Elleo: oh nice
[21:59] <Elleo> nik90: cool
[21:59] <Elleo> nik90: life will get even better when we have proper click store support on the desktop though :)
[22:00] <nik90> Elleo: Btw after this release, I will be focusing a lot on bug fixes and performance optimization since somethings are still a bit too clunky..like for instance we should introduce pagination in the episode page where a podcast could potentially have more than 200 episodes at some times.
[22:01] <nik90> I was able to remove several scenarios where the entire model was refreshed instead of being optimized by using removing a specific entry from the model. but there is still some more work that can be done in this area
[22:01] <Elleo> nik90: cool
[22:05] <efes> is there any procedure about connecting gdb to running process or running e.g. dialer-app through gdb ?
[22:08] <Elleo> efes: "attach PID" should work as normal, alternatively you should be able to start it within gdb by doing "gdb dialer-app" then "run --desktop_file_hint=/usr/share/applications/dialer-app.desktop"
[22:08] <Elleo> efes: you'll get a SIGILL on startup, just do "c" to continue and it'll start up fine
[22:08] <efes> Elleo: Thanks. I'll try this in a minute
[22:10] <Elleo> efes: looks like you'll need to run gdb as root to attach to the PID
[22:10] <Elleo> efes: but seems to work fine after that
[22:10] <efes> sorry for stupid question: what is the root pwd?
[22:11] <Elleo> efes: you'll need to use sudo and then the password will be the same as your lockscreen password
[22:11] <efes> aah, thanks!
[22:11] <Elleo> no problem :)
[22:15] <efes> Elleo: I think there is somethink shitty there :/ http://pastie.org/10094938
[22:16] <Elleo> efes: hmm, try connecting to an existing pid; that worked for me when I tested just now
[22:17] <efes> I'll try connecting to pid; it was an attempt to run first instance of phone app
[22:25] <efes> Elleo: Joining to a process that is currently running works fine. Thanks mate :)
[22:25] <efes> That is enough for today. Goodnight pals :)
[22:26] <Elleo> efes: great :)
[22:52] <Elleo> nik90: the limitedBandwith stuff appears to be broken, so I think we should just hide that option until it's fixed
[22:52] <Elleo> nik90: added details about it to the MR here: https://code.launchpad.net/~nik90/podbird/5-auto-download-option/+merge/254652
[22:53] <Elleo> nik90: although I have a feeling it works correctly from the C++ API, as I used that in cutespotify
[22:53] <Elleo> nik90: I'll have a play tomorrow if I get time and see if we can expose a working property from C++ ourselves
[22:54] <nik90> Elleo: Is this on krillin?
[22:54] <Elleo> nik90: yeah
[22:54] <nik90> Elleo: I remember a long time back telegram devs having the same issue when I introduce this MP for them in qml
[22:54] <nik90> Elleo: ok..its local to krillin :/
[22:55] <Elleo> nik90: ah :/
[22:55] <nik90> Elleo: I will remove that option for now then
[22:55] <Elleo> nik90: maybe we could add a description to the option, saying "This option doesn't currently work on the BQ Aquaris"
[22:56] <nik90> Elleo: It won't look professional imo..tbh I don't know if it works on anything other than N4 since that's the only device I can test on
[22:56] <Elleo> nik90: yeah, probably best just to remove it for now
[23:01] <nik90> Elleo: I am unable to find your inline comment
[23:02] <Elleo> nik90: looks like I forgot to save it
[23:02] <Elleo> nik90: will redo it now
[23:02] <nik90> :)
[23:03] <Elleo> nik90: done
[23:06] <nik90> Elleo: removed limitedbandwidth, fixed log statement and pushed
[23:08] <Elleo> nik90: great; will retest and merge tomorrow, just about to run out of battery
[23:09] <nik90> Elleo: np, I am also going to sleep soon.
[23:09] <nik90> Gud nite
[23:09] <Elleo> night :)
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[01:44] <Ionic> okay
[01:44] <Ionic> cloned the branch to a private +junk one
[01:44] <Ionic> cloned the recipe
[01:44] <Ionic> let's go building this...
[01:54] <Ionic> hm, that failed, looks like I'm missing something
[02:07] <Ionic> hm, the failure is probably because it's missing a ppa at build time
[02:16] <Ionic> via "edit dependencies" somewhere, ok
[02:25] <Ionic> hmmm...
[02:25] <Ionic> we are using an own version of debhelper
[02:26] <Ionic> a rebuild only for lucid, though
[02:27] <Ionic> the other dists are using the normal ubuntu debhelper
[02:27] <Ionic> weird way to do a backport, but meh... that explains the build failure
[03:50] <Ionic> ok, that worked for all builds this time... diff time
[03:55] <Ionic> RAOF: yes, I can reproduce the problem by building on launchpad :(
[03:56] <RAOF> Ionic: ...!
[03:56] <Ionic> https://code.launchpad.net/~ionic/+archive/ubuntu/test-ppa/+packages
[03:56] <Ionic> the one commit that is different is touch dummy
[03:56] <Ionic> for launchpad to actually create new packages because of the first failure
[03:57] <Ionic> I bet if I was also pushing a dummy commit to the X2Go release repo, the new packages would be "broken"
[03:58] <Ionic> gonna diff the build logs now
[03:58] <Ionic> I have seen one difference already
[03:58] <Ionic> dpkg was updated
[03:58] <Ionic> patch version 9 to 10
[03:59] <Ionic> (I'm sorry if I'm getting on your nerves, but this is so very odd for me)
[04:01] <RAOF> Nah, that's ok. It's very odd for me, too :)
[04:02] <Ionic> libc versions differ, too, but that shouldn't... well, who knows
[04:02] <Ionic> it's related, to some degree
[04:03] <Ionic> and dpkg was updated from: Get:3·http://ftpmaster.internal/ubuntu/·precise-security/main·dpkg·amd64·1.16.1.2ubuntu7.5·[18... -> Get:3·http://ftpmaster.internal/ubuntu/·precise-security/main·dpkg·amd64·1.16.1.2ubuntu7.6·[18...
[04:03] <RAOF> Is that using imake???
[04:04] <Ionic> yep
[04:04] <Ionic> it's based upon Xorg 6.9...
[04:04] <Ionic> I know, I know
[04:05] <RAOF> What's the underlinked library?
[04:05] <RAOF> Or binary, I guess.
[04:06] <Ionic> other differences: multiarch-support updated, binutils updated, dpkg-dev updated, libdpkg-perl updated
[04:06] <Ionic> underlinked binary: usr/lib/nx/bin/nxagent (package nxagent)
[04:06] <Ionic> actually, it's not really "underlinked"
[04:06] <Ionic> the library shows up in ldd's output, but not in DT_NEEDED
[04:07] <Ionic> so it's "underlinked", in quotes
[04:07] <Ionic> libssl has also been updated, but I figure that's unimportant
[04:07] <RAOF> Highly likely.
[04:07] <Ionic> just like gpgv and gnupg
[04:08] <Ionic> or libgrypt* or libtasn* or gnutls...
[04:08] <Ionic> (the security team seems to be doing its job, though, so I'll give you that)
[04:08] <RAOF> Have you determined whether nxagent directly uses symbols from the things in ldd but not DT_NEEDED? Because if it doesn't then this is expected (and should be harmless) behaviour.
[04:08] <RAOF> Yeah, our security team is on the ball :)
[04:09] <Ionic> I haven't done that
[04:11] <Ionic> I'll checkout the debug symbols and take a look
[04:12] <Ionic> it seems not to be using XDamage* symbols
[04:12] <Ionic> (at least not according to nm ./usr/lib/debug/usr/lib/nx/bin/nxagent | grep -i XDamage)
[04:13] <RAOF> You can also find that with objdump -T nxagent | grep UND; that'll give you the list of symbols that need to be resolved to load nxagent.
[04:15] <RAOF> And objdump -T $CANDIDATE_LIBRARY | grep .text will get you the list of symbols exported from that library.
[04:16] <RAOF> It *should* be possible to do some seddery or something to match these up; that's left as an exercise for the reader :)
[04:16] <RAOF> But if the binary isn't directly using the XDamage* symbols then it shouldn't be getting a DT_NEEDED entry against the library providing those symbols.
[04:19] <Ionic> looks like there are really no symbols used
[04:20] <RAOF> Doesn't explain why you're only just seeing this, of course.
[04:22] <Ionic> yep
[04:23] <Ionic> I kinda bet it was the dpkg update
[04:23] <Ionic> err, dpkg-dev
[04:23] <Ionic> dpkg-gensymbols is part of dpkg-dev, sorry
[04:24] <RAOF> But that's not going to change whether or not nxagent is actually linked with libnxdamage, though.
[04:24] <RAOF> Hm, lunch time!@
[04:27] <Ionic> yes
[04:27] <Ionic> so, even while no symbols are being used, we still link to libnx-xdamage1 etc.
[04:27] <Ionic> making the binary fail to start if that library is not available
[04:43] <RAOF> Ionic: But I thought you said nxagent had no DT_NEEDED entry for libnx-xdamage? That would imply that it *doesn't* need libnx-xdamage (except if some library it *does* use needs libnx-xdamage, in which case that library should carry the dependency).
[04:44] <Ionic> RAOF: yes, but the makefile is still linking to it
[04:44] <Ionic> which is probably wrong to begin with
[04:45] <RAOF> If the binary doesn't have a DT_NEEDED entry, then the binary is not linked with it. You'll be running into the -as-needed default there, I guess.
[04:46] <Ionic> well, gcc is not called with -Wl,-as-needed
[04:48] <RAOF> If I read the entrails of gcc -dumpspecs correctly, --as-needed is the default, so you'd need to explicitly pass --no-as-needed to disable it.
[04:48] <Ionic> hum
[04:51] <Ionic> looks like it
[04:52] <RAOF> It might be time to circle round to... what was the actual *problem* again? :)
[04:52] <Ionic> there's something else though, it also adds --no-add-needed
[04:53] <Ionic> but that looks like the default behavior anyway
[04:53] <Ionic> good question
[04:53] <Ionic> to be honest, I do not know what the *actual* problem is
[04:53] <Ionic> a user reported "it's not working"
[04:54] <Ionic> after he was told to run nxagent manually to see if it even starts up, he determined libnx-xdamage1, *xfixes* and *xtst* were missing on his system
[04:54] <Ionic> which made nxagent fail to start
[04:56] <Ionic> the weird part is that the libraries should still have been present on the system
[04:56] <RAOF> Lacking xfixes is a really “basically everything now fails” situation, yes.
[04:56] <Ionic> wait, let me look it up
[04:57] <Ionic> maybe it was damage, composite and tst
[04:57] <Ionic> oh, meh
[04:57] <Ionic> damage, randr and xtst
[04:57] <RAOF> That's still a “Apps using GTK or Qt don't start” situation.
[04:58] <RAOF> Hm.
[04:58] <Ionic> the weird part is that damage, randr and tst are dependencies of libxcompshad3
[04:59] <Ionic> ... which is a dependency of nxagent
[04:59] <RAOF> Have they just flat out broken their system?
[04:59] <Ionic> so I don't understand how the user got into his broken state in the first place
[04:59] <Ionic> possible
[04:59] <Ionic> because it doesn't make sense
[05:00] <Ionic> I though find it odd the the 3 libraries that he mentioned the three libraries that were explicitly removed from nxagent's Depends:
[05:00] <Ionic> (+ grammar)
[05:01] <RAOF> Yeah, that's curious.
[05:01] <Ionic> I though find it odd, that the 3 libraries that he mentioned were the packages "explicitly" (or rather implicitly though dh_shlibdeps) removed from nxagent's Depends:
[05:02] <Ionic> so I'm a little bit careful to blame it on user error
[05:02] <RAOF> What debugging output do you have from their system?
[05:03] <Ionic> (and I still don't know what causes the removal in the first place. https://launchpadlibrarian.net/202647030/dpkg_1.16.1.2ubuntu7.5_1.16.1.2ubuntu7.6.diff.gz looks totally unrelated... and that was the dpkg change)
[05:03] <Ionic> oh, don't go there
[05:03] <Ionic> an incomplete list of installed packages, because he grepped wrongly
[05:04] <Ionic> never told him, but the list isn't really helpful...
[05:04] <RAOF> Heh
[05:04] <Ionic> http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.linux.terminal-server.x2go.user/2937
[05:05] <Ionic> should have rather grepped for "nx" only...
[05:06] <Ionic> wrong message though
[05:06] <Ionic> http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.linux.terminal-server.x2go.user/2904
[05:12] <Ionic> at that point, he installed the libraries though, so I can't just ask him for the complete "old" output...
[05:12] <RAOF> And once he installed the libraries everything worked?
[05:12] <Ionic> looks like it
[05:12] <Ionic> "eureka" sounds like it fixed his problem
[05:13] <Ionic> http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.linux.terminal-server.x2go.user/2929
[05:41] <RAOF> Ionic: Hm... you've done some package splitting recently?
[05:44] <RAOF> I wonder if there isn't some combination of packages that would have satisfied dependencies without installing nx-xdamage et al...
[05:46] <Ionic> yep
[05:46] <Ionic> well, not splitting, but renaming
[05:46] <Ionic> from libnx-xdamage to libnx-xdamage IIRC
[05:46] <Ionic> err, from libnx-xdamage to libnx-xdamage1
[05:49] <Ionic> basically from unversioned lib packages to versioned lib packages
[05:52] <Ionic> I wouldn't know any solution set that would have been satisfied without the nx libs, though
[05:53] <Ionic> and the upgrade path looked smooth for other users
[05:53] <Ionic> (minus the first messup that broke stuff on ubuntu because launchpad is overriding the dist tag)
[06:53] <tjaalton> shouldn't libvirt-bin shutdown guests on vivid?
[06:54] <tjaalton> don't think the initscript is doing that, the upstart job did
[06:57] <tjaalton> hm, that or debian (guest) doesn't log shutdown
[08:25] * mwhudson grumbles at git-buildpackage, pbuilder etc
[10:26] <ericsnow> pitti: ping
[11:25] <ricotz> Laney, hi, thanks for syncing youtube-dl -- would you mind doing the same for https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/plank/+bug/1443773
[11:25] <Riddell> pitti: can you remind me again how to make a commit to apport?
[11:38] <Riddell> Sweet5hark: can we update the breeze icons in libreoffice or is it too late (asks the artists)
[12:04] <LocutusOfBorg1> hi doko
[12:04] <LocutusOfBorg1> you there?
[12:04] <LocutusOfBorg1> gcc version 5.0.1 20150413 (prerelease) [gcc-5-branch revision 222064] (Debian 5.1~rc1-1)
[12:04] <LocutusOfBorg1> I don't understand that "5.0.1" vs "5.1"
[12:04] <LocutusOfBorg1> did they make a mistake?
[12:46] <Riddell> pitti: I still have a couple of random breakages on proposed-migration, any thoughts on how to fix?
[13:29] <cyphermox> good morning!
[13:30] <seb128> h
[13:30] <seb128> hey cyphermox
[13:31] <cyphermox> hey seb128
[13:33] <seb128> cyphermox, how is Canada?
[13:33] <cyphermox> I don't know, I'm in Texas :)
[13:33] <seb128> oh, ok
[13:33] <cyphermox> hehe
[13:34] <cyphermox> I think Catou said it was snowing yesterday again, a bit
[13:34] <seb128> waouh, winter is not over yet for you?!
[13:34] <seb128> here we are in summer mode
[13:34] <seb128> 25°C sunny
[13:34] <cyphermox> yeah, not quite there yet
[13:35] <cyphermox> also, Summer for abolished, there was a memo
[13:35] <seb128> lol
[13:35] <cyphermox> it's now 8 months winter, 2 months fall and two months spring
[13:35] <cyphermox> ;)
[13:37] <seb128> well, no summer is fine, if it means avoiding the 40°C days, but that's too much winter!
[13:41] <cyphermox> seb128: I agree ;)
[13:42] <pitti> good morning
[13:42] <cyphermox> seb128: but the fact that it's still winter and probably depressing to some people is the only way I can explain people fighting in universities in Quebec :P
[13:42] <pitti> Riddell: I committed your vivid apport fix to trunk, thanks
[13:42] <cyphermox> pitti: hey!
[13:42] <seb128> cyphermox, they do?!
[13:42] <pitti> Riddell: autopkgtest failures> which one?
[13:42] <cyphermox> sadly
[13:43] <ScottK> cyphermox: I always heard it was two seasons: winter and construction.
[13:44] <cyphermox> ScottK: sounds about right
[13:45] <Riddell> pitti: http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/proposed-migration/update_excuses.html#knewstuff
[13:45] <cyphermox> seb128: http://ici.radio-canada.ca/regions/montreal/2015/04/13/004-uqam-conflit-professeurs-critiquent-presidente-syndicat-nevert.shtml
[13:45] <seb128> urg
[13:45] <Riddell> pitti: but kate and okteta are both green in the builds
[13:45] <pitti> Riddell: http://d-jenkins.ubuntu-ci:8080/view/Vivid/view/AutoPkgTest/job/vivid-adt-okteta/lastBuild/ARCH=i386,label=adt/console
[13:45] <pitti> ^ kate failure, looks like an API change somewhere?
[13:45] <pitti> FTBFS
[13:45] <Riddell> pitti: "Server not found"
[13:45] <pitti> documentinfoview.cpp:29:23: fatal error: KIconLoader: No such file or directory
[13:46] <pitti> Riddell: ah, public jenkins is broken again? le sigh..
[13:46] <pitti> Riddell: I'll ask the CI team
[13:46] <Laney> we pinged them earlier
[13:47] <pitti> Laney: ah, thanks
[13:47] <pitti> Riddell: kate: http://paste.ubuntu.com/10826776/
[13:47] <pitti> Riddell: sorry, that was okteta ^
[13:48] <pitti> Riddell: kate: http://paste.ubuntu.com/10826784/
[13:51] <Riddell> thanks pitti
[14:27] <rbasak> pitti: may I have your opinion on bug 1444502 please? Odd situation that matsubara ended up in just now.
[14:27] <rbasak> dist-upgrade fixed it, but I think it should have been prevented by dependencies
[14:36] <pitti> rbasak: (sorry, sprint hectic/delay) I followed up to the bug with a quick proposal
[14:36] <pitti> does that sound alright to you?
[14:40] <rbasak> pitti: I think so, yes, since init pre-depends on systemd-sysv | upstart-sysv and both provide /sbin/runlevel.
[14:40] <rbasak> pitti: as long as there isn't some broader way to solve this?
[14:40] <pitti> rbasak: right, that was the idea; we don't want to hardcode systemd-sysv just yet, as we still want to support upstart-sysv for a while, and definiitvely need that on the phone
[14:40] <pitti> rbasak: well, "init" is Essential:
[14:41] <pitti> rbasak: it should really Not Happen™ that you don't have it
[14:41] <pitti> rbasak: it used to be not essential, so perhaps matsubara was upgraeding from intra-vivid where this wasn't the case
[14:41] <rbasak> pitti: ah, but that only happened recently, right? So matsubara might have had an older init package that wasn't essential?
[14:42] <rbasak> pitti: maybe safe to invalidate this bug then. An essential package does indirectly provide /sbin/runlevel.
[14:42] <pitti> rbasak: yeah; but "init" didn't exist in utopic/trusty either
[14:42] <rbasak> So only upgrade from beta is affected when not using dist-upgrade.
[14:42] <pitti> rbasak: I mean, apt-get upgrade from a previous release is already evil, bad, wrong, and crying "broken!"
[14:43] <pitti> I'm not sure if we can ever get this truly right, "upgrade" shold not exist really
[14:43] <pitti> "apt upgrade" is fine, but not apt-get upgrade
[14:43] <rbasak> pitti: so are you +1 to mark the bug Invalid?
[14:44] <pitti> rbasak: fine with me too
[14:45] <pitti> I don't think additional deps on init hurt, but I'm not sure how much of a real use case the above is
[14:45] <rbasak> Beta users need to know to dist-upgrade and not just apt-get upgrade.
[14:46] <seb128> tyhicks, hey, any news about the schroot/ecryptfs issues? if it's not fixed for vivid do you think we should add a note discouraging people who want to develop for ubuntu touch to enable ecryptfs?
[14:46] <rbasak> Other stuff will be broken too otherwise
[14:46] <tyhicks> seb128: hey - I'm hoping to get back to those bugs
[14:47] <pitti> rbasak: yeah, we basically never test/support apt-get upgrade; it's probably ok for -security/-updates in many cases, but not otherwise
[14:47] <tyhicks> seb128: there are some higher priority things that I've got to tend to first
[14:47] <matsubara> thanks rbasak, pitti
[14:48] <tyhicks> seb128: if we do add a note for users, it is important to note that it is *any* filesystem mounted at /home/USER and not just ecryptfs
[14:52] <seb128> tyhicks, right, but it's likely that not many users do create a speciifc /home/USER partition, where ecryptfs is a checkbox in the installer which is sort of recommended if you want more security
[14:52] <seb128> tyhicks, so ecryptfs is likely going to be the most common case
[14:54] <tyhicks> agreed
[15:07] <Sweet5hark> seb128: hmmm, Riddell asked about updating the icon theme for libreoffice/vivid again. Its low risk, but we are really later
[15:07] <Sweet5hark> seb128: s/later/late/ your take?
[15:08] <seb128> Sweet5hark, I'm not in the release team, check with them I guess
[15:08] <seb128> it looks like the sort of change that can be SRUed to me
[15:09] <Sweet5hark> seb128: true. Its just replacing a tarball in ./debian ...
[15:10] <Sweet5hark> seb128: so, lets punt that for an sru ...
[15:10] <seb128> wfm
[15:10] <seb128> it's not an installation issue so SRU should be alright
[15:40] <pitti> Riddell: ah, kate succeeded now
[15:47] <doko> pitti, jibel: can you have a look at the gcc-4.8 migration?
[15:47] <doko> 4.9 it is
[20:02] <infinity> mvo: Will the lack of newline at the end of /etc/system-image/writable-paths cause problems?
[20:06] <rbasak> writable?
[20:06] <rbasak> I thought that was just Samba.
[20:08] <mvo> infinity: I think not, but I can double check
[21:17] <infinity> mvo: Did you determine that your lack of newline on your upload was fine?
[21:42] <FunnyLookinHat> Anyone else unable to reach http://kernel.ubuntu.com/~kernel-ppa/mainline/
[21:46] <elfy> FunnyLookinHat: same
[21:46] <FunnyLookinHat> blech.
[21:46] <FunnyLookinHat> elfy, purduelug?
[21:47] <FunnyLookinHat> Oh nope - close to another nick I know :D
[21:47] <elfy> lol
[23:29] <infinity> pitti: Where are you?
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[08:16] <nebuchadnezzar> hello
[14:41] <nebuchadnezzar> I have a strange issue when preseeding an alternate iso, when loading the preseed I have a lot of messages "preseed/run: mount: mounting /dev/vda on /media failed: Invalid argument"
[14:42] <nebuchadnezzar> I try to preseed a trusty ISO
[15:13] <nebuchadnezzar> I can not figure out why the installer want to mount the disk on each preseed action
[18:10] <cyphermox> nebuchadnezzar: wouldn't /dev/vda not be a partition but the whole disk, and otherwise possibly mounted somewhere else?
[18:11] <cyphermox> nebuchadnezzar: if you can share your preseed, I can take a look
[19:23] <nebuchadnezzar> cyphermox: yes, /dev/vda is the whole disk but it's empty, no partition table yet
[19:24] <nebuchadnezzar> I'll provide the preseed tomorrow since I'm home now ;-)
[19:25] <nebuchadnezzar> note that I do not have this issue when I netboot my installation from PXE, with exactly the same preseed
[19:42] <cyphermox> nebuchadnezzar: so what device has the install media then?
[20:11] <nebuchadnezzar> cyphermox: no, the media is an iso as /dev/hda
[20:11] <nebuchadnezzar> /dev/vda is the virtio disk on which to install
[20:20] <nebuchadnezzar> cyphermox: note that I try a 14.04.2 server install and before displaying the curse installation I saw the same message, but only once
[20:21] <cyphermox> well, assuming you're trying to install to /dev/vda, it probably wouldn't try to mount it in /media, and rather try mounting in /target
[20:21] <cyphermox> but your preseed might contain clues as to what's going on, you'll just want to remove the root password if you're setting it in there
[20:22] <cyphermox> (if you can share it)
[20:46] <nebuchadnezzar> cyphermox: I'll be able to share it toworrow, at work, I don't have access from home
[20:52] <cyphermox> no worries, just ping me :)
[20:53] <cyphermox> but be careful, like I said, preseed may contain a root password, so you'll want to check it over first
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2015-04-15-#ubuntu-ops
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[12:43] <bazhang> lubuntu has no pulseaudio?
[13:01] <k1l> i dont think they dont use pa
[13:13] <IdleOne> this is not a support channel. Please use #lubuntu for support.
[13:13] <IdleOne> :)
[14:09] <jpds_> This beakus person wants everything given to them on a plate.
[18:06] <Unit193> bazhang: Correct.
[21:26] <OerHeks> Hi, can you please take a look at #ubuntu: tubejockey is join/parting for hours now.
[21:27] <k1l> i ll have a look, OerHeks
[21:27] <OerHeks> Thank you k1l
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2015-04-15-#ubuntu-arm
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[05:03] <nitroshift> hello people
[05:03] <nitroshift> NCommander, ping
[07:40] <nitroshift> NCommander, ping
[07:59] <nitroshift> anyone can help me with a patch for armada xp?
[13:53] <NCommander> Blast it, keep missing nitroshift
[13:54] <k1l> and we will never know what the issue is
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"NCommander",
"k1l",
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2015-04-15-#ubuntu-us-oh
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[11:23] <dzho> http://www.fsf.org/events/rms-20101017-akron
[11:23] <jenni> [ Richard Stallman to speak in Akron, OH — Free Software Foundation — working together for free software ] - https://j.mp/1CJvUBH
[15:24] <paultag> yay, akron
[16:28] <yano> y u no https
[16:28] <yano> stallman would be dissapoint
[16:53] <paultag> yano: email the fsf
[16:53] <paultag> they should https
[16:53] <yano> they do
[16:53] <paultag> 302 redirect
[16:53] <yano> they just don't do HSTS
[16:53] <paultag> ahh
[16:53] <yano> if you use HTTPS Everywhere it forces fsf.org to use https
[16:53] <yano> and btw, HTTPS Everywhere is now available for Firefox Mobile \o/
[16:54] <paultag> :D
[17:40] <jrgifford> I thought stallman doesn't like the certificate authority scheme?
[17:41] <dzho> remember, this is the guy who has web pages emailed to him
[17:41] <dzho> so, what stallman "likes" about the web is sort of hard to compare to the experience nearly everyone else who uses it has
[17:41] <jrgifford> lol
[17:41] <jrgifford> i'm surprised they have ical documents that open in os x calendar...
[17:48] <yano> i think ical is an open format
[17:50] <jrgifford> Yeah, looks like it is. thought it was just a format that everyone was abusing from apple and hadn't gotten sued over.
[17:57] <yano> ah
[17:57] <yano> just because it has an "i" in front of it doesn't meant it belogns to Apple :-P
[18:01] <dzho> see, for instance "inguinal hernia"
[18:01] <jrgifford> lol
[18:02] <dzho> (actually, don't see that. wikipedia article illustration may be considered NSFW)
[18:02] <jrgifford> kk. won't look.
[19:43] <thafreak> wow, he's speaking at Kent...I wonder who invited him?
[19:43] <thafreak> There is a new LUG on campus...wonder if they invited him
[19:44] <thafreak> The Kent ACM chapter convinced bjarne stroustrup to come give a talk on like c++13 or whatever was the upcoming version at the time
[20:13] <andygraybeal> https://peoplesjusticeleague.com/ <--- did i mess up the security cert with this site?
[20:13] <jenni> [ People's Justice League ] - https://j.mp/1DIQd6f
[20:14] <andygraybeal> my browser says it is fine.
[20:18] <dzho> wfm
[20:18] <andygraybeal> thanks dzho
[20:19] <dzho> mind, we're probably using similar browser and os
[20:20] <andygraybeal> yea, i have no idea what htis guy is using
[20:21] <dzho> also, on my S3 with Firefox from f-droid
[20:21] <andygraybeal> thanks
[20:21] <dzho> np
[20:22] <andygraybeal> my firefox and chrome says it is fine
[20:23] <dzho> yeah, absent trying every browser/OS combination, I think you're in pretty good shape. Is someone reporting a problem?
[20:23] <andygraybeal> yea
[20:23] <andygraybeal> thank you for the help.
[20:24] <yano> peoplesjusticeleague.com uses an invalid security certificate. The certificate is not trusted because no issuer chain was provided.
[20:24] <andygraybeal> thank you yano
[20:24] <yano> yw
[20:24] <andygraybeal> man.... i thought it did it right.. my browser says it is trusted
[20:24] <Unit193> If you visit another site that uses the same chain, Firefox will cache it.
[20:26] <andygraybeal> yano, how do you get that info to come up?
[20:26] <andygraybeal> is there something i can run to see the same thing you are?
[20:26] <yano> i tried via Tor Browser Bundle
[20:26] <Unit193> :cert show
[20:26] <andygraybeal> so i just need some kind of chain certificate?
[20:26] <yano> which disables its caching
[20:26] <yano> yea
[20:26] <yano> are you using nginx?
[20:26] <yano> or apache?
[20:26] <andygraybeal> apache
[20:26] <dzho> oh, this is an intermediate cert problem then?
[20:27] <yano> yea
[20:27] <Unit193> Alioth had that same problem. :D
[20:27] <yano> you can also check here, https://www.sslshopper.com/ssl-checker.html
[20:27] <jenni> [ SSL Checker - SSL Certificate Verify ] - https://j.mp/1CP8Z6O
[20:27] <andygraybeal> thank yo uyano
[20:27] <Unit193> It likes my cert, well except for Loki's.
[20:28] <yano> this might help, http://www.entrust.net/knowledge-base/technote.cfm?tn=7563
[20:28] <jenni> [ How is the Chain Certificate installed in Apache (OpenSSL)? — Technote Article — Entrust ] - https://j.mp/1CP9bmp
[20:28] <andygraybeal> yea, i think i understand how to do the chain, but thank you for the docs
[20:28] <andygraybeal> i think i've done the chain before.....
[20:29] <andygraybeal> alight, i have to sharpen some blades. thank you i will work on this later. i'm getting so tired of computers.
[20:31] <dzho> this is where I start alternating between despair and desperately complicated invocations of "openssl s_client"
[21:23] <andygraybeal> :)
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2015-04-15-#ubuntu-ar
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[20:45] <roger_35> laka
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ubuntu-chat
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2015-04-15-#launchpad
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[12:15] <belkinsa> Okay, my Ubuntu address is working again. Thank you for the help
[16:08] <ybon> hi :)
[16:09] <ybon> Anyone using dh_virtualenv to build packages on launchpad? I've an error when dh_virtualenv try to fetch the python package, like if there is not Internet connection, so I may be missing a point
[16:09] <ybon> https://launchpadlibrarian.net/203371551/buildlog_ubuntu-trusty-amd64.addok_0.1.0-7_BUILDING.txt.gz for more details
[16:09] <wgrant> ybon: Launchpad builders can't connect to the Internet.
[16:10] <ybon> makes sense
[16:10] <ybon> but then any way to use dh_virtualenv?
[16:10] <ybon> like uploading the python package by hand
[16:10] <wgrant> I don't know what that is, but from the name I would suspect not.
[16:10] <wgrant> You need to either include your dependencies in your package, or specify them as packages in your Build-Depends field.
[16:11] <ybon> (http://dh-virtualenv.readthedocs.org/)
[16:11] <ybon> ok
[16:11] <dobey> you should probably package them properly in your ppa, if they are not already in ubuntu
[16:11] <ybon> I'm totally dumb in packaging, so I may be missing a point, but for what I understand dh_virtualenv try to dl the packages at build time
[16:12] <ybon> dobey: the idea of dh_virtualenv is not to need to repackage python packages :)
[16:12] <dobey> it's not virtualenv, but setuptools will do that as well
[16:12] <dobey> ybon: dh_virtualenv is an oxymoron then :)
[16:12] <ybon> hehe
[16:12] <wgrant> Sensible Debian packages build only using other packages.
[16:13] <dobey> exactly
[16:13] <ybon> yeah, I understand that
[16:13] <ybon> but mine is not sensible ;)
[16:13] <ybon> I just want to make it easier for people on Ubuntu to install the app I'm working on
[16:13] <dobey> having a tool for building python packages that is designed expressly not to use packages, is not sensible
[16:13] <ybon> but I'd prefer not to need to repackages every python dep
[16:14] <ybon> designed to use python packages ;)
[16:14] <dobey> how many python deps do you have which aren't packaged in ubuntu already?
[16:14] <ybon> I mean, building the .deb works perfectly, on local
[16:14] <ybon> good question :)
[16:14] <ybon> Let me check
[16:14] <dobey> "perfectly"
[16:14] <ybon> I confirm :)
[16:14] <ybon> I can build it and install it on my server ;)
[16:17] <dobey> sure, it appears to work for you. i wasn't questioning that. just that "perfectly" is a rather strong statement, particularly when you're doing something completely antithetical to debian packaging :)
[16:17] <ybon> ok, I remove "perfectly" from my statment, you won :)
[16:20] <ybon> so 1 package is missing, 5 are not up to date
[16:20] <dobey> besides, making debian packages of python libraries is generally pretty trivial
[16:21] <ybon> but I may consider using those versions anyway
[16:21] <dobey> on what version of ubuntu? and what packages?
[16:21] <ybon> only targetting LTS, so Precise and Trusty
[16:21] <ybon> the app I'm trying to package is https://github.com/etalab/addok
[16:22] <ybon> again, I'm totally new on Debian/Ubuntu packaging, so making my own pooding at the moment to try to eat something every day ;)
[16:28] <dobey> well, i don't know which one is missing. they all seem to be available
[16:28] <ybon> I don't see ngram
[16:28] <dobey> docopt and werkzeug can be backported easily from a newer release it seems; the others are all still older versions than you list in requirements.txt
[16:29] <dobey> oh right, ngram was missing, indeed
[16:30] <dobey> i think the "==" dependencies you have is a bit odd too
[16:30] <dobey> generally, you'd want >=
[16:32] <ybon> depends on the habit, I prefer to control them and to have requirements to warn me when I need to upgrade
[16:32] <ybon> anyway, seems I need to review my plans ;)
[16:33] <ybon> thanks for the assistance in seeying the reality :)
[16:33] <dobey> if you want to have more control over dependency versions like that and use your app inside virtualenv, then your best option is probably to just ship your tarball on pypi, and tell people to install it with virtualenv that way, rather than using debian packaging
[16:34] <dobey> so that people can set up a virtualenv container specific to your app
[16:35] <ybon> yep
[16:35] <ybon> I loved the idea of a Ubuntu package too, but it's a bit more work than just adding dh_virtualenv and having it automagically
[16:36] <ybon> dealing with virtualenv is still a bit messy for people not used to python ecosystem
[16:37] <ybon> so having an easier Ubuntu LTS copy-paste to deploy is a nice to have :)
[16:40] <dobey> well, if you need specific versions of python packages, it's going to be a problem, because those will change
[16:42] <ybon> well, this one is not really a strong need
[16:43] <dobey> it very rarely is :)
[16:44] <dobey> i can maybe help get some packages updated in a ppa if you need help with that, but i'm generally pretty short on time, and am doing actual work right now :)
[16:45] <ybon> thanks :)
[16:46] <ybon> I'm considering my options right now ;)
[16:46] <ybon> python-ngram
[16:47] <ybon> python-ngram seems not active, so it means that if I make a package, I will need to maintain it
[16:47] <ybon> which step I'm not sure I should do
[16:47] <ybon> being also pretty short in time, like all of us ;)
[16:55] <dobey> if upstream ngram is no longer active, then maybe you shouldn't use it :)
[16:57] <ybon> héhé ;)
[21:11] <KaZeR> hey there. Everytime i upload a .pot file, it ends up in "Need review". When reviewing it, I do not see why it isn't automatically processed. can someone help?
[21:56] <ki7mt> Hello all, I have project that is on SF right now, and want bring most of it over to LP for a new Ubuntu package. Must I create a new LP account and everything that goes with it or can I run it from my personal account on LP?
[21:57] <beuno> ki7mt, hi
[21:57] <beuno> you would create a team
[21:57] <beuno> and own that team yourself
[21:57] <dobey> you can do it personally, via a team, or as a new account
[21:57] <beuno> but that would disconnect it from you personally, and allow others to jump in
[21:57] <dobey> a team is generally the best way to do things
[21:58] <ki7mt> Ok, that sounds good, I'll read up on the team route. Thanks.
[22:01] <wgrant> ki7mt: You'd usually create a team at https://launchpad.net/people/+newteam, then a project owned by that team at https://launchpad.net/projects/+new
[22:04] <ki7mt> wgrant, ok, that seems logical. So then, users added to the team would also be part of the project yes?
[22:05] <beuno> yes
[22:05] <ki7mt> Ok, thanks. will read up a bit more before I dive it :-)
[22:05] <ki7mt> .. dive in ..
[22:12] <cjwatson> And in general it's pretty rare to need a new account.
[22:21] <dobey> yeah, usually the reason to create a new account would be to create a bot, which you add to a team, that uses the API to perform various things (like using tarmac to manage branch landings)
[22:21] <dobey> anyway, i am gone. later :)
[22:26] <mapreri> ki7mt: you might want to experiment thinks in staging.launchpad.net
[22:44] <ki7mt> mapreri, yes, thanks, I was thinking the same thing after reading about both teams and projects.
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2015-04-15-#kubuntu
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[01:29] <doomikus> anyone have a suggestion for easy backup with at least some multiple versioning?
[01:35] <yahyaa> does anyone have any idea when the stable version of plasma5 will be coming out?
[01:36] <doomikus> yahyaa: if you ask the devs, they will probably tell you "when it's finished" :D
[01:37] <yahyaa> by sayind devs are u refering to the developers? and if so how do I contact them?
[01:37] <doomikus> not sure but I would think kde.org might be a good start
[01:37] <yahyaa> ok thanks
[01:38] <doomikus> yahyaa: you could always install virtualbox, create a vm and test the "beta-ish" build yourself
[01:38] <doomikus> some of the distros are including it
[03:26] <saidox> hello i have plasma 5.2.2 and i have a probleme with mouse right click in the desktop the probleme it doesn't show the menu bar as it should be can some one know why this happening with me
[03:44] <darthanubis> kairox: it's a bug
[03:45] <darthanubis> KDE bug 346191
[04:01] <valorie> should be confirmed by now, good grief
[04:02] <bshah> valorie: can you give me screenshot of the Mouse Actions page from desktop settings?
[04:02] <bshah> (I can not reproduce it with -git packages, but shot in blue.. I have some idea)
[04:03] <valorie> well, krunner is also broken today
[04:03] <valorie> as well as the search in kicker
[04:03] <Etriaph> So I'm not the only one :D
[04:03] <bshah> valorie: you can open desktop settings from hamburger menu
[04:03] <Etriaph> I logged a bug on plasma-desktop earlier for this.
[04:04] <bshah> it sound to me more like packaging problem..
[04:04] <valorie> yes, I filed bugs both on bko and launchpad
[04:04] <bshah> can any of you run plasmashell from konsole. and see what it outputs when you right click?
[04:05] <Etriaph> kf5.kiconthemes: "Theme tree: (Compass)" <-- output from that execution
[04:05] <bshah> no no..
[04:05] <bshah> Etriaph: kill plasmashell first; then run plasmashell
[04:05] <Etriaph> Ah, one moment
[04:06] <bshah> pkill plasmashell; plasmashell
[04:06] <Etriaph> No output
[04:07] <bshah> i.e plasmashell itself doesn't output anything? or when you rightclick?
[04:07] <Etriaph> When I right-click
[04:07] <Etriaph> Lots of debugging output of course, just nothing on that action
[04:08] <bshah> alright; now can you open Desktop settings from hamburger menu?
[04:08] <valorie> bshah: http://imgur.com/D8Jh3UA
[04:08] <Etriaph> Yup.
[04:09] <bshah> something ate defaults
[04:10] <Etriaph> Can it be rebound?
[04:10] <bshah> not sure where this file is on your kubuntu but; plasma/shells/org.kde.plasma.desktop/contents/defaults can you paste me it?
[04:10] <Etriaph> Oooh, it crashes when I try.
[04:11] <bshah> hm? any backtrace?
[04:12] <Etriaph> Oh...
[04:12] <Etriaph> Ya, will product
[04:12] <Etriaph> But... that whole tree is gone
[04:12] <Etriaph> It shows up on locate, but not on disk
[04:12] <bshah> wtf
[04:12] <Etriaph> Which means the update removed it.
[04:12] <Etriaph> It's in /usr/share/plasma fyi
[04:12] <Etriaph> Or that's where locate reported it.
[04:13] <bshah> okay what are the dirs in /usr/share/plasma/shells/ ?
[04:14] <valorie> bshah: https://paste.kde.org/pnaoiegh9
[04:15] <bshah> RightButton;NoModifier=org.kde.contextmenu
[04:15] <Etriaph> /usr/share/plasma/shells/org.kde.plasma.desktop
[04:15] <bshah> sounds sane
[04:15] <Etriaph> Contains contents and metadata.desktop
[04:16] <bshah> does it work with blank session (i.e test user?)
[04:16] <Etriaph> Um, I can try if you wish.
[04:16] <bshah> would be helpful
[04:16] <Etriaph> One sec...
[04:17] <valorie> afaik it worked until today's updates
[04:17] <bshah> anyway to know what files got update?
[04:17] <valorie> there was a user complaining on G+ so I tested
[04:17] <bshah> s/files/packages
[04:17] <valorie> hmmm, yes -- I think
[04:18] <bshah> this is indeed specific to kubuntu
[04:18] <valorie> darn it, there is an apt history file somewhere
[04:18] <Etriaph> Argh, can't switch users gonna log out and test, one sec..
[04:20] <valorie> https://paste.kde.org/pepneigs7
[04:20] <Etriaph> Yup, same on a new account.
[04:22] <bshah> I wonder if it is bug related to kconfig and /etc --- something
[04:23] <Etriaph> kdeinit5 has no bug reporting address, so crashes can't be reported?
[04:25] <bshah> depends upon crash..
[04:25] <bshah> you can report but you have to do it manually
[04:28] <bshah> can you give me the cat ~/.config/plasma-org.kde.plasma.desktop-appletsrc ?
[04:29] <bshah> s/cat//
[04:30] <valorie> https://paste.kde.org/pxpywm6px
[04:31] <bshah> buh there is no Actions part there..
[04:31] <bshah> :\
[04:31] <bshah> [ActionPlugins][127]
[04:32] <bshah> RightButton;NoModifier=org.kde.contextmenu
[04:32] <bshah> like I have this
[04:32] <bshah> can you add new action in Mouse action or that also doesn't work?
[04:34] <bshah> Etriaph: valorie: ^
[04:35] <valorie> there is a button in systemsettings, but I have no clue what to do with it?
[04:35] <valorie> Add Action
[04:35] <valorie> but how does one do that?
[04:35] <Etriaph> That's what caused the crashed for me valorie
[04:35] <Etriaph> If I click on that button, then right-click, kdeinit5 crashes
[04:35] <valorie> I don't have a mouse .... well I guess I could get a mouse
[04:35] <bshah> click on it.. it will tell "Input Action" now and then right-click
[04:35] <valorie> I have a touchpad
[04:36] <bshah> Etriaph: can you fetch the backtrace?
[04:36] <valorie> ha, that crashed plasma
[04:36] <valorie> when I right-clicked
[04:36] <Etriaph> bshah, ya one sec
[04:36] <Etriaph> valorie: Ya :(
[04:36] <valorie> Executable: plasmashell PID: 1556 Signal: Segmentation fault (11) Time: 4/14/15 21:36:10
[04:37] <bshah> Ibacktrace from developer information would be helpful
[04:37] <valorie> debug in gdb?
[04:37] <Etriaph> Do you want it pasted or reported?
[04:37] <Etriaph> I have it in the dialog.
[04:37] <bshah> Etriaph: paste it please
[04:38] <Etriaph> https://paste.kde.org/pgabukmfr
[04:38] * valorie is getting missing debug packages
[04:39] <bshah> Etriaph: can you paste it on https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=346191 too?
[04:40] <valorie> gah, it wants me to restart
[04:40] <valorie> one report is enough I think, right?
[04:41] <Etriaph> I'm reporting it now
[04:41] <Etriaph> Under plasmahsell > Desktop Dashboard
[04:42] <Etriaph> Or what would be more appropriate?
[04:43] <bshah> Etriaph: no no; don't report new bug..
[04:44] <bshah> please put it in bug I pointed as comment
[04:45] <Etriaph> Oh...
[04:45] <Etriaph> I just logged it.
[04:46] <Etriaph> So paste the backtrace as a comment on 346191?
[04:46] <bshah> works for now.. I will add a comment
[04:48] <bshah> I can not think of anything for now.. I have to run at university in sometime..
[04:48] <bshah> so see you..
[04:48] <bshah> will try to debug it later..
[04:48] <Etriaph> Take it easy.
[05:11] <Etriaph> Found another, strange bug.
[05:12] <Etriaph> If I try to switch users the Alt-F2 dialog appears and the text 'SESSIONS' is populated there.
[05:14] <valorie> whoa, strange
[05:14] <valorie> for me, krunner doesn't work at all today
[05:15] <valorie> also filed a bug about that
[05:15] <valorie> bugs: both bko and launchpad
[05:15] <Etriaph> I didn't know how accustomed I was to right-clicking my desktop until today.
[05:16] <valorie> I don't miss that, but I sure miss krunner
[05:16] <Etriaph> Ya, I want my gg: back
[05:19] <valorie> Etriaph: more developers needed!
[05:29] <Etriaph> valorie: Not so seasoned with C++ as I am with other languages.
[05:29] <Etriaph> valorie: But I have considered it. Learning the ecosystem would take a while.
[05:30] <valorie> probably just needs porting
[05:40] <Etriaph> Er.. cannot save places in Dolphin either.
[05:42] <valorie> I've heard that mentioned, but don't know if a bug report has been filed
[05:42] <valorie> would be bko, not launchpad I believe
[05:43] <Etriaph> Yup, added confirmation.
[05:43] <Etriaph> On lp
[05:43] <Etriaph> Just two days away, how's the list lookin'? ;)
[05:43] <Etriaph> Or one day now I guess.
[05:44] <valorie> http://goo.gl/Chh7uh
[05:44] <valorie> is the list
[05:44] <valorie> !vivid
[05:44] <valorie> pfff
[05:45] <valorie> April 23rd is release, so lots of bug-fixing time
[05:46] <Etriaph> 16th is RC though yes?
[05:46] <valorie> RC is out when it's out
[05:46] <Etriaph> LOL
[05:46] <valorie> final freeze is on the 16th
[05:46] <valorie> really, they have held it back for days sometimes
[05:46] <valorie> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/VividVervet/ReleaseSchedule
[05:48] <Etriaph> It's also marked as the RC, that's why I mentioned it.
[05:50] <valorie> right, but that is a moving target sometimes
[05:50] * Etriaph nods
[05:51] <valorie> let me put it this way: the RC will be out before final release
[05:51] <valorie> :-)
[05:52] <Etriaph> I'm really impressed by just how stable it actually is. None of the software I made use of prior to 15.04 is unavailable in a way that I can't work. I absolutely don't understand why people still use GNOME
[05:54] <Etriaph> I think the only app that I've fought with has been Kmail
[05:54] <Etriaph> If I were to help out with KDE or related apps, it would be that one.
[05:56] <valorie> the kdepim team is great!
[05:56] <Etriaph> I'm not sure they'd like what I have to say about kmail LOL
[05:56] <valorie> but getting your plugin into krunner would be trivial I think
[05:56] <valorie> I miss kmail
[05:56] <valorie> it just doesn't work for me anymore
[05:57] <valorie> hopefully one of these days again
[05:57] <valorie> I've never tried anything else I like
[05:57] <Etriaph> I think the UI needs a modernization; the workflow if you have more than one account configured is painful.
[05:59] <Etriaph> If you think they would be receptive to the conversation, though, I'd be interested to know who to speak with to see what could be done.
[06:01] <valorie> Etriaph: join #kontact
[06:01] <valorie> read up on the links in the /topic as usual
[06:01] <Etriaph> I'll add it to my channel list for tomorrow.
[06:01] <valorie> cool
[06:01] <valorie> if you start fixing bugs, or docu or whatever
[06:02] <valorie> your opinion is worth as much as anybody else
[06:02] <Etriaph> I think I'd be likely to create mock-ups in QML so it could be plugged in easily to back-end code if they so chose.
[06:02] <valorie> potshots from the sidelines can be ignored, but users and devels have valuable opinions
[06:02] <valorie> cool
[06:03] <Etriaph> But I'll chat with them tomorrow about it.
[06:03] <valorie> like I said, listen and read for a bit
[06:03] <valorie> it would be lovely to have a kubuntu person on that team
[06:03] <Etriaph> I at one point wanted to assist with the Kubuntu website, but Wordpress having been chosen and no one really owning it, I switched to paying work for something to keep me busy at the time.
[06:04] <valorie> people have really stepped up for the website
[06:04] <valorie> we had an SoK student do some work, but IMO it was rather a mess
[06:06] <Etriaph> Riddell had said I should just start making changes when I was speaking with him, but I'm not sure anyone had really decided on a direction except that it had to change
[06:07] <Etriaph> Web/Social Media should be 2 sides of the same coin: Promotion.
[06:07] <valorie> my memory is a bit hazy, but it seems that some of our Romanian users made a nice site, and then offered to move that work to the Kubuntu site
[06:08] <Etriaph> Do you know where the existing test site is?
[06:08] <valorie> I think it should be ready for release day
[06:10] <Etriaph> When ovidiu-florin sent out the email to the devel list, he neglected to add a link.
[06:10] <valorie> looking for a link
[06:10] <valorie> http://kubwp.kubuntu.co.uk/
[06:10] <valorie> I think
[06:11] <valorie> yes
[06:13] <Etriaph> Oy that image takes a while to transfer.
[06:17] <valorie> yes, I think some images need to be optimized
[06:17] <valorie> I'm sure they could use help still
[06:23] <soee> good morning
[06:24] <Etriaph> Good morning soee
[06:24] <soee> hiho Etriaph
[06:34] <Etriaph> OK, that's all of my feedback sent for the day.
[06:34] <Etriaph> Time for sleepies.
[06:34] <Etriaph> Catch ya on the flipside!
[08:05] <s_20> right now kubuntu is crashing for me when i try to log in
[08:05] <s_20> X (and sddm) is starting up, but when i try to log in it's showing me KDE's loading bar and then X/sddm restarts
[08:06] <soee> s_20: nvidia gpu ?
[08:06] <s_20> yes
[08:06] <soee> prime ?
[08:06] <soee> *optimus
[08:06] <s_20> yes3
[08:06] <soee> do you have latets updates ?
[08:06] <soee> *latest
[08:07] <s_20> i just updated a few minutes ago
[08:07] <s_20> the fonts in sddm are..weird as well all of a sudden
[08:07] <soee> wel had the same, but i was abel to run nvidia drivers yesterday
[08:08] <soee> s_20: what driver version are you running ?
[08:08] <soee> im not sure if it is related but i have 346
[08:09] <s_20> 340 apparently
[08:10] <soee> s_20: can you update to 346 ?
[08:10] <s_20> doing it right now
[08:11] <s_20> soee: did you have the same problem with the weird fonts as well?
[08:11] <soee> s_20: not exaclty fonts but resolution
[08:11] <s_20> they're way too small, as if the DPI setting changed, and some of them are just..blobs
[08:11] <s_20> as in completely blurry
[08:11] <soee> might happen
[08:12] <soee> s_20: than for a moment switch to intel profile - type in command line: sudo prime-select intel
[08:12] <s_20> soee: i'll try my luck with346 first
[08:12] <s_20> but thanks for the hint
[08:12] <soee> yuo shoudl be able to login, than open nvidia-settings and check Nvidia profile, try to reboot
[08:13] <soee> for me it ended with black screen (reboot) but after restart it worked
[08:13] <s_20> i'll just restart right away
[08:14] <soee> ok, tell me then how it worked for you
[08:18] <s_20> okay, i'm in kde now
[08:18] <s_20> something strange happened to the fonts anyway
[08:18] <s_20> they're all *way* too small
[08:19] <s_20> and the alt-f2 launcher doesn't find anything anymore o_O
[08:19] <s_20> not even commands that are in the path
[08:19] <s_20> as in $PATH
[08:20] <soee> s_20: there was an update yesterday to KF 5.9
[08:21] <soee> with this update search is broken and rightclick on desktop not working
[08:21] <soee> this is known
[08:21] <s_20> soee: oh
[08:21] <s_20> i take that is going to get fixed soon..as that has a certain release critical air about it..?
[08:21] <soee> s_20: the font size might be related to DPI settings
[08:21] <JunkHunk> hello Is there a way to completely remove a gnome application? I accidentally installed avant window navigator and as it didnt work properly I removed it...that was at least what I thought but now it still wants to start at login and a bothersome session manager warning appears every time
[08:21] <soee> s_20: yes shoudl be fixed soon
[08:21] <s_20> soee: i know, but i didn't change them :(
[08:22] <soee> s_20: go to System Settings -> Fonts
[08:22] <soee> and check DPI settings
[08:22] <s_20> i know, they're on automatic, as they always were
[08:23] <soee> JunkHunk: how did you remove it ?
[08:24] <JunkHunk> soee sudo apt-get purge avn
[08:24] <s_20> at least for now i'm in a state where i can work again..if the fonts bother me too much i can still change the DPI settings and i'll just hope the launcher will work again soon, i use it a lot
[08:24] <s_20> anyway, thank you for the hint about the nvidia drivers!
[08:25] <JunkHunk> soee no, what I did was this: sudo ppa-purge ppa:awn-testing/ppa
[08:26] <soee> JunkHunk: so you purged ppa not package it seems, purging ppa moves package to version from archive if available but not removing it
[08:26] <soee> what is the package name of avant ? avn ?
[08:27] <soee> than: sudo apt-get remove --purge avn
[08:27] <JunkHunk> soee I never thought it would be this troublesome to uninstall something it reminds me windows days
[08:27] <soee> JunkHunk: ppa purge revertes package version not packages it contains
[08:27] <JunkHunk> soee I did this to install it: http://askubuntu.com/questions/453460/is-avant-window-navigator-available-for-ubuntu-14-04
[08:28] <soee> ok than: sudo apt-get remove --purge avant-window-navigator
[08:32] <JunkHunk> soee it says it couldn't locate package avant-window-navigator
[08:34] <soee> JunkHunk: it shoudl work but check if maybe it some different package name
[08:34] <JunkHunk> but I still get this each login: http://www.pasteall.org/pic/show.php?id=86770
[08:35] <JunkHunk> soee it seems there is still something in the system related to AWN and the system still fetchs it
[08:36] <soee> JunkHunk: go to System Settings -> Startup and check if ther eis some service related to avn that runs on startup
[08:37] <soee> s_20: i have updated bug report with teh info you provided https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/nvidia-prime/+bug/1428328
[08:38] <s_20> soee: alright
[08:39] <s_20> i'm always a little confused by the way ubuntu handles nvidia drivers, it's a little more transparent on debian systems
[08:39] <s_20> as in "please update to 346 automatically if it's available"
[08:41] <soee> s_20: not here i think, but 346 is marked as recommended
[08:41] <soee> in drivers manager
[08:44] <JunkHunk> soee no clue of AWN in system settings: http://www.pasteall.org/pic/show.php?id=86771
[08:45] <JunkHunk> soee http://www.pasteall.org/pic/show.php?id=86772
[08:46] <soee> JunkHunk: does this shows any packages to be removed: sudo apt-get remove --purge avant* ?
[08:47] <JunkHunk> soee no
[08:48] <JunkHunk> soee just not installed packages and some unnecessary libmono and linux image...
[08:50] <soee> so there left some configuration entry
[08:50] <soee> some german forum http://forum.ubuntuusers.de/topic/system-meckert-beim-start-ueber-fehlende-exec-/
[08:51] <JunkHunk> nothing related with AWN
[08:56] <JunkHunk> soee okay thanks
[09:02] <JunkHunk> soee this: grep -iR avant-window-navigator as far as I know it is used to find even symbolic links or recursive directories related to avant window navigator but...it does not find anything. this is annoying
[09:59] <vip> hi ho, anybody experienced no right mouse/wheel working on desktop after latest update?
[10:06] <lordievader> Good afternoon.
[12:52] <BluesKaj> Hiyas all
[14:05] <bduncan> hi all. i'm running the vivid beta and there a few bugs which i'd like to track down and report.
[14:05] <bduncan> firstly krunner seems to have stopped working. i can type in the box but nothing is ever suggested and pressing return does nothing
[14:06] <bduncan> i've tried shell commands, .desktop commands, simple maths...
[14:07] <bduncan> secondly plasmashell seems to segfault every time i log in, but the bug reporter says the backtrace is useless even though i've installed debug symbols. can i clear out its config somewhere or get better logging?
[14:08] <bduncan> any pointers?
[14:08] <hateball> bduncan: #ubuntu+1 for vivid support until stable
[14:09] <bduncan> hateball: great, thanks
[16:01] <blubberbop> How important is fstrim? I've had it multiple times now that I'm working and out of the blue, my laptop freezes completely, cant do anything.. I CTRL SHIFT F1 to text console, which takes about a minute to pop up, then login that takes another 5 minutes, then iotop, and yep, fstrim again.... Whatever it does, great, do it, but why does it have to lock up my laptop while I'm working? It feels like windows doing its shitty upgrades NOW no matter if
[16:01] <blubberbop> you're working or not...
[16:21] <donniezazen> In http://files.kde.org/snapshots/ is kubuntu-201504091327-amd64.iso the latest?
[16:26] <lordievader> blubberbop: For an SSD it should increase performance or so I've heared.
[16:27] <blubberbop> lordievader: thats what the man page says, more or less.. But it should not completely lockup my laptop for the 15 minutes that its running, makes me really unhappy
[16:28] <lordievader> Don't think you want to do it on mounted filesystems, but I have no experience with fstrim.
[16:34] <MoonUnit`> so i wasn't going mad with desktop search breaking then, saw the bug reports today.
[19:16] <JunkHunk> hello I was wondering why I cannot play mov videos on mozilla firefox...and I came here for some help...I already have the quicktime plugin installed and mov videos will play perfectly on my host players mozilla firefox is the default web browser for kubuntu isnt it?
[19:17] <JunkHunk> some system tweaking perhaps? codecs or something?
[19:20] <BluesKaj> JunkHunk, install flashplugin-installer
[19:23] <soee> BluesKaj: isn't it shipped with kubuntu-restricted-extras ?
[19:24] <lordievader> soee: Not if you do not tick the box.
[19:24] <lordievader> Ah, wait. Never mind.
[19:24] <soee> ah, ok i thought it is :-)
[19:26] <soee> what is the best video editor in your opinion ? oenshot, kdenlive ?
[19:27] <BluesKaj> JunkHunk, copy quicktime rom wherever you installed it to /usr/lib/mozilla/plugins
[19:27] <BluesKaj> from
[19:28] <tuv0k> kdenlive
[19:28] <BluesKaj> soee, yeah I was mistaken about flash, it's default with the restricted-extras
[19:29] <BluesKaj> and has nothing to do with .mov files :)
[19:29] <soee> true :)
[19:29] <BluesKaj> should have read his question more closely
[19:30] <soee> ahoneybun: ping
[19:48] <JunkHunk> BluesKaj, okay I installed the flashplugin-installer but I dont know what you mean with the quicktime rom
[19:48] <JunkHunk> I didnt install quicktime
[19:48] <JunkHunk> do I need to?
[19:48] <BluesKaj> JunkHunk, copy quicktime from wherever you installed it to /usr/lib/mozilla/plugins
[19:49] <BluesKaj> the quicktime plugin , JunkHunk
[19:49] <JunkHunk> oh
[19:49] <JunkHunk> its a firefox plugin
[19:49] <JunkHunk> so I guess it is already in the plugins folder
[19:50] <BluesKaj> ok is it in this file /usr/lib/mozilla/plugins ?
[19:50] <BluesKaj> check to make sure
[19:51] <JunkHunk> inside /home/me/.mozilla there is a folder called firefox and another one called extensions
[19:51] <JunkHunk> in the extensions folder just a file: libflashplayer.so
[19:53] <BluesKaj> what about /usr/lib/mozilla/plugins ?
[19:54] <JunkHunk> http://www.pasteall.org/pic/show.php?id=86799
[19:56] <JunkHunk> no quicktime plugin?
[19:56] <BluesKaj> no quicktime plugin there JunkHunk , so the .mov files won't play in firefox
[19:56] <JunkHunk> :-)
[19:57] <JunkHunk> okay I grep -iR quicktime and there are quicktime for gimp, phonon-vlc...and so but none in firefox folders so definetely no plugin
[19:58] <JunkHunk> okay how do I get the plugin then? I tried the regular way that is using firefox plugins tab...where the quicktime plugin appear as installed...
[19:59] <tuv0k> JunkHunk: gecko-mediaplayer
[19:59] <tuv0k> JunkHunk: https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/kb/quicktime-plugin-play-audio-and-video
[19:59] <tuv0k> I've used it before, it works.
[20:00] <tuv0k> gecko-mediaplayer is in the repos
[20:00] <tuv0k> sudo apt-get install gecko-mediaplayer
[20:00] <JunkHunk> okay thanks buddie
[20:01] <tuv0k> np
[20:02] <BluesKaj> tuv0k, cool, thanks for the tip :)
[20:02] <tuv0k> yw
[20:03] <tuv0k> feels good to give back in some little bit
[20:04] <JunkHunk> hmmm I feel a bit suspicious about installing gnome programs in kubuntu..will gnome-mplayer be safe to install?
[20:04] <tuv0k> yes
[20:05] <JunkHunk> still not playing...
[20:05] <BluesKaj> JunkHunk, yes gnome apps run fine on kubuntu
[20:05] <JunkHunk> do I need to restart?
[20:06] <JunkHunk> not fine at all
[20:06] <JunkHunk> you try awn and see what happens
[20:06] <tuv0k> JunkHunk: what is the link you are trying to play?
[20:06] <JunkHunk> though my problem might be I installed an outdated app in the latest kubuntu
[20:06] <JunkHunk> is a dropbox video I made
[20:06] <tuv0k> ahhh
[20:07] <JunkHunk> I can play it well in the desktop
[20:07] <JunkHunk> but it wont play in the browser
[20:07] <tuv0k> can you try to visit an actuall site that has a mov video?
[20:07] <JunkHunk> hmmm wise idea
[20:08] <tuv0k> http://trailers.apple.com/
[20:08] <JunkHunk> oh thanks
[20:08] <tuv0k> Now I remember why I installed it in the first place
[20:08] <tuv0k> to play apple trailers
[20:08] <bprompt> heheh
[20:09] <tuv0k> :)
[20:09] <tuv0k> kodi takes care of that now
[20:10] <JunkHunk> hmmm it is taking too long
[20:10] <JunkHunk> I think I might need a reboot
[20:10] <tuv0k> most likely HD video
[20:10] <tuv0k> what is your connection like?
[20:10] <BluesKaj> there are more sites adopting HTML5 without adverting it for testing purposes , I've discoveed a few ...was running with flash to find which ones
[20:10] <JunkHunk> more than enough
[20:10] <tuv0k> do you see the video buffering
[20:10] <JunkHunk> no
[20:11] <JunkHunk> just gray
[20:11] <BluesKaj> err without flash rather
[20:11] <tuv0k> at least restart firefox before you reboot the machine
[20:11] <JunkHunk> I already did
[20:11] <JunkHunk> a couple of times
[20:11] <tuv0k> are you running an adblocker?
[20:11] <tuv0k> script blocker?
[20:12] <JunkHunk> good one but no
[20:12] <JunkHunk> oh wait
[20:12] <tuv0k> I'm going to try myself now
[20:12] <JunkHunk> yes
[20:13] <JunkHunk> that was it
[20:13] <tuv0k> :)
[20:13] <JunkHunk> addblock plus
[20:13] <tuv0k> lol, nice
[20:13] <JunkHunk> now it is working
[20:13] <tuv0k> yup
[20:14] <JunkHunk> so what's wrong with my video???
[20:14] <JunkHunk> I ll need to record it again
[20:14] <JunkHunk> thanks anyway folks
[20:14] <JunkHunk> see you later
[20:14] <tuv0k> peace
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[13:56] <philm88> Hi all, I'm trying to get upstart to launch my kiosk-mode service on boot. Essentially, it starts a minimal window manager, starts firefox and uses xdotool to simulate pressing F11 and putting firefox into fullscreen mode. It's that last part I'm having issues with. - I can't get xdotool to work in the context of an upstart conf. I suspect it could be becuase DISPLAY isn't set at that point, but not sure how to confirm that. Do
[13:57] <philm88> it's also probable that I'm just trying to do things with upstart that it wasn't meant to do
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[08:48] <JamesTait> Good morning all; happy Microvolunteering Day! :-D
[13:43] <sergiusens> jodh: hey, your udf branch looks good
[13:44] <sergiusens> jodh: I just have a minor thing to discuss
[13:44] <jodh> sergiusens: sure
[13:44] <sergiusens> the location of where we flag this becomes a problem once we support factory reset
[13:44] <sergiusens> jodh: what do you think about storing it somewhere in /boot?
[13:44] <sergiusens> I just thought /boot as it's a common location contrary to system-a/b
[13:51] <jodh> sergiusens: unless the reset detected the sideload and replaced that file after a format. But yeah, I guess the simplest+safest option is to use /boot.
[14:29] <tbr> so, I'm trying out snappy. Downloaded the alpha2 vm as told in the tutorial. got the examples. built. tried to deploy. It fails.
[14:29] <tbr> a) if I update the image it fails completely - missing signature
[14:30] <tbr> b) with the image as is it asks repeatedly, mumbles about an override and installs it
[14:30] <tbr> my question is: how do I a) sign a package b) add the key as trusted to the core image
[14:31] <tbr> querying the web search engine of my least distrust yields no usable results.
[14:31] <tbr> https://bugs.launchpad.net/snappy-ubuntu/+bug/1443676 is also not really helpful, but at least indicates that I'm not the only one having a problem
[14:34] <tbr> oh, and downgrading the "ubuntu-core-alpha-02_amd64-virt.img" image once it's upgraded fails "Unable to determine bootloader"
[14:36] <tbr> pointers to be able to RTFM appreciated
[14:40] <Nikolay> lool: lcf@lcf-ThinkPad-W510 ~/austin/rpi2 $ sudo ubuntu-device-flash core --platform bcm2836-rpi-2-b --size 4 --oem ./pi2.lool_0.10_all.snap --developer-mode --device-part=device-pi2-0.9.tar.xz -o rpi2.img Determining oem configuration 2015-04-15 14:40:14 ERROR snappy logger.go:199 Signature verification failed with exit status 14 Signature verification failed with exit status 14
[14:47] <lool> sergiusens: that was it
[15:00] <ogra_> tbr, i think there was a newer release inbetween ... the version on TFM might be outdated (not following snappy much recently so take that with a grain of salt)
[15:01] <tbr> ogra_: so the tutorial bits are all there is?
[15:01] <ogra_> not sure, there might be blogs etc about vm images ... i always only used snappy on real hardware (real = ARM :) )
[15:02] <tbr> well, a BBW is on my desk waiting
[15:02] <tbr> but for that I'd like to know how I integrate with a custom kernel as I'd like to be able to use the 6loWPAN stack in Linux 4.0
[15:03] * tbr didn't want to get ahead of himself and opted for a "quick boot of vm image as recommended by tut"
[15:47] <mterry> kirkland, hey btw, I snappified tmux with my scripts and it works fine if you build it with an unconfined profile (needed some /dev access) -- or probably if you used snappy hw-assign to let it access the right /dev. Anyway, try building like so: ./make-snap -d 15.04/beta-2 --aa-template unconfined tmux
[16:35] <sergiusens> Chipaca: https://code.launchpad.net/~sergiusens/goget-ubuntu-touch/polishit/+merge/256358
[16:35] <Chipaca> sergiusens: interesting name :)
[16:36] <sergiusens> :-P
[16:39] <ogra_> sausages !
[16:42] <jdstrand> pitti: lxc-usernsexec -m b:0:1000:1 /bin/bash
[16:42] <pitti> jdstrand: cheers
[16:42] <jdstrand> obviously I didn't unshare, etc there, but that is the format of -m
[16:47] <sergiusens> beuno: https://bugs.launchpad.net/software-center-agent/+bug/1443537
[16:52] <mvo> pitti: what does your subuid file looks like again ?
[16:57] <pitti> mvo: martin:100000:65536
[16:58] <pitti> mvo: but I don't think we actually need that
[16:58] <pitti> mvo: you can e. g. call lxc-usernsexec -m b:0:`id -u`:1 -- unshare -m
[16:58] <pitti> mvo: that's what I'm doing in my prototype now
[17:01] <mvo> pitti: cool
[17:01] <pitti> mvo, jdstrand: \o/ working
[17:19] <mvo> pitti: does still also work if you remove martin from /etc/subuid
[17:19] <mvo> ?
[17:19] <pitti> mvo: it did for jdstrand
[17:20] <mvo> pitti: nice!
[17:20] <jdstrand> mvo: I had to create the mapping on the fly
[17:20] <pitti> mvo: yes, works fine here
[17:20] <jdstrand> mvo: with the -m option
[17:20] <pitti> I commnted out everything
[17:21] <pitti> so /etc/sub[ug]id mostly seems to be a default for -m
[17:25] <mvo> pitti, jdstrand: I'm still having trouble to get from uid 0 back to 1000 inside the shell I unshared. but I will come over to you soon
[17:27] <pitti> mvo: yeah, that's so much easier to do in C
[17:33] <mvo> pitti: hm, I can setuid(0) but can't setuid(1000) anymore, I guess I need to setup a new mapping
[18:53] <dholbach_> slangasek, do we have something like the table on https://developer.ubuntu.com/en/start/ubuntu-for-devices/image-channels/ for snappy?
[19:54] <mvo> sergiusens: lp:~mvo/snappy/snappy-fix-hooks-rootdir-wrong-symlink
[20:07] <sergiusens> mvo: works fine
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2015-04-15-#ubuntu-za
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[05:00] <Kilos> morning all
[05:08] <Kilos> sjoe pieter2627 jy is vroeg
[05:12] <pieter2627> haha, hi Kilos. eks altyd vroeg
[05:12] <Kilos> mooi
[05:24] <Jacques_Stry> Morning all
[05:26] <Kilos> hi Jacques_Stry
[05:26] <Kilos> lekker to have you back
[05:30] <barrydk> More almal
[05:30] <Kilos> hi barrydk
[05:54] * jacques_ waves
[05:54] * Kilos waves back
[05:55] <Kilos> sjoe
[05:55] <Jacques_Stry> ???
[05:55] <Kilos> te veel goeters aan die gang
[05:56] <Jacques_Stry> :)
[06:07] <magespawn> good morning
[06:07] * Jacques_Stry waves
[06:08] <Kilos> hi magespawn
[06:21] <Kilos> hiho SilverCode
[06:22] <Kilos> oh that was for silver the horse
[06:22] <SilverCode> neigh
[06:22] <Kilos> hehe
[06:26] <SilverCode> anyone know how to show all emails not matching a domain in mutt?
[06:26] <SilverCode> ie. show me all mails not maching *@silvercode.com
[06:34] <Jacques_Stry> O.O
[06:35] <Kilos> maybe the pro will know how to do that
[06:35] <Jacques_Stry> First time hearing of the email client
[06:36] <Jacques_Stry> Terminal email client O.O I'm not that comfortable in terminal yet
[06:36] <SilverCode> trying to find a specific email when you don't know when it was sent, who sent it, or what the title/contents of it is damn hard
[06:40] <Kilos> sjoe so what are you going to look for if you dont know any of that
[06:40] <Kilos> gonna take long but you can go search the mails on the server
[06:41] <SilverCode> well my current strategy is eliminate all the prople I work with .. I know it wasn't from them. Then keep adding people to the elimination list until I see a mail that matches
[06:41] <Kilos> sjoe
[06:41] <Kilos> good luck
[06:51] <SilverCode> if anyone is interested, you can use !(~f silvercode.com) in mutt to filter out all messages with that domain in the from field
[06:52] <SilverCode> and after doing that it looks like the mail isn't in my old mutt mailbox, so now I need to figure out how to do the same in the terrible Outlook Web App
[06:55] <Kilos> sjoe
[06:56] <Kilos> magespawn
[06:57] <Kilos> can you point Jacques_Stry to the mails about that book thin WWK is doing please
[06:57] <Kilos> dont you guys read the mails in the list
[06:58] <Jacques_Stry> :)
[06:58] <Kilos> Jacques_Stry only joined the list yesterday and he does the it at a school so i thought it might be good to have him onboard
[06:59] <Kilos> maybe its my mail addy that shocked them all
[07:10] <Kilos> morning superfly
[07:11] <superfly> morning Kilos, Jacques_Stry, SilverCode, magespawn
[07:13] <Jacques_Stry> Morning
[07:20] <magespawn> hi Kilos superfly Jacques_Stry
[07:20] <magespawn> Jacques_Stry: you should be able to look uo the old mail on the list site i think
[07:21] <Jacques_Stry> https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-za/2015-April/thread.html ?
[07:22] <Kilos> check march Jacques_Stry
[07:24] <Jacques_Stry> Got it
[07:25] <Kilos> i think header thing was books-- something
[07:25] <Kilos> or topic
[07:25] <Jacques_Stry> Documentation User Group
[07:25] <Kilos> maybe that ya
[07:34] <magespawn> Jacques_Stry: you should be able to look uo the old mail on the list site i think
[07:34] <magespawn> hi Kilos superfly Jacques_Stry
[07:34] <Jacques_Stry> Hi magespawn
[07:34] <Jacques_Stry> Running through the mails now
[07:34] <magespawn> cool beans
[08:05] <Kilos> hi psyatw
[08:06] * Jacques_Stry waves
[08:06] <psyatw> hi Kilos
[08:06] <Kilos> Jacques_Stry dont mail the list when i am busy typing out a new one
[08:06] * psyatw waves back at Jacques_Stry
[08:06] <Jacques_Stry> haha
[08:06] <Kilos> i get distracted and forget what i wanted to say
[08:06] <Kilos> haha just joking
[08:07] <Jacques_Stry> i know ;)
[08:34] * Kilos waves to plustwo inetpro
[08:34] <Kilos> hi SubOracle you well?
[08:34] <Kilos> en nuvolari se tog iets man
[08:35] <Kilos> al is dit net besig
[08:36] <SubOracle> Hi Kilos yes thanks and yourself also hello everyone else
[08:38] <superfly> \o/ SubOracle
[08:39] <Kilos> im good ty
[08:43] * Jacques_Stry waves at SubOracle
[09:16] <inetpro> Kilos: \o/
[09:16] <inetpro> good mornings everyone
[09:16] <Kilos> yessir inetpro
[09:17] <psyatw> hi superfly
[09:17] <psyatw> hi inetpro
[09:17] <psyatw> yesterday I went to the AngularJS meetup at Google here in Dublin
[09:18] * inetpro noticed something about an awesome announcement somewhere
[09:18] <inetpro> Announcement: New Ubuntu Membership Board Members http://fridge.ubuntu.com/2015/04/14/announcement-new-ubuntu-membership-board-members/
[09:18] <inetpro> Kilos: that is magic! Congratulations and well done!!!
[09:19] <Kilos> ty sir. all your guidance
[09:19] <Jacques_Stry> Congrats Oom Miles!!!
[09:19] <inetpro> haha...
[09:19] <Kilos> ty Jacques_Stry
[09:19] * inetpro had very little to do with it
[09:20] <Kilos> sigh
[09:20] <magespawn> nice one Kilos
[09:20] <magespawn> more work
[09:20] <Kilos> yeah ty magespawn
[09:20] <Kilos> they said i must do lees here and attend their meetings hehe
[09:21] <Kilos> 2 a month
[09:22] <Kilos> inetpro if not for you and fly and magespawn and some others patience i would most likely still be asking "sudo" whats that
[09:22] <inetpro> Kilos: I think you'll do a great job and you will enjoy it as well
[09:23] * inetpro is very happy for him
[09:23] <Kilos> thanks so much
[09:23] * psyatw is happy for Mr Kilos himself
[09:23] <Jacques_Stry> I remember my days of "Sudo? wt* - #!%$ why is everythink so complicated! >.<"
[09:24] <Jacques_Stry> Now it's a different story
[09:24] <inetpro> lot's of interesting people to interview
[09:24] <inetpro> lots as well
[09:24] <psyatw> now it's a fairytale of how you found the love of your life
[09:24] * Jacques_Stry does a solo mexican wave for Kilos
[09:25] * inetpro joins the wave
[09:25] <magespawn> i tried suo aptitude install on windows, only stopped just before i pushed enter
[09:25] <magespawn> s/suo/sudo
[09:25] <Jacques_Stry> haha >.<
[09:25] <Kilos> hahaha
[09:26] <inetpro> time for some coffee and then some work again
[09:26] <inetpro> Maaz: coffee on
[09:26] <Kilos> maaz assumption
[09:26] * Maaz washes some mugs
[09:26] <Maaz> An assumption is a proposition that is taken for granted, as if it were true based upon presupposition without preponderance of the facts, but when made by intelligent people is often proven to be true.
[09:26] <Kilos> Maaz coffee please
[09:26] <Maaz> Kilos: Sure
[09:27] <Kilos> i get by with a little help from my friends
[09:30] <Maaz> Coffee's ready for inetpro and Kilos!
[09:30] <inetpro> Maaz: thanks
[09:30] <Maaz> inetpro: Okay :-)
[09:31] <Kilos> Maaz thanks man
[09:31] <Maaz> Kilos It gives me great pleasure to serve a bunch of geeks :-)
[09:31] <Kilos> oh inetpro they said one thing i must do though
[09:31] <Kilos> remove trello
[09:32] <Jacques_Stry> LIES!
[09:32] <Kilos> oh did i dream it
[09:34] <stickyboy> Ok, this is fucking depressing.
[09:34] <stickyboy> https://twitter.com/AfricanConserve/status/586788556800008192
[09:34] <stickyboy> Kilos: :(
[09:34] <Kilos> hi stickyboy
[09:35] <Kilos> eish
[09:35] <Kilos> we have a continuous war here with poachers as well
[09:36] <stickyboy> Last northern white rhino. wtf.
[09:36] <Kilos> we are even taking dna from every rhino
[09:36] <stickyboy> I don't want to belong to this world!
[09:37] <Kilos> we even have choppers and microlights for chasing poachers
[09:39] <Kilos> wb MaNI
[09:40] <stickyboy> Kilos: Nature is amazing... such a shame.
[09:40] <MaNI> thanks
[09:40] <MaNI> eskom have totally ruined my day
[09:40] <Kilos> inetpro MaNI is our gentoo go to man now
[09:40] <Kilos> ai!
[09:40] <stickyboy> gentoo w00t
[09:40] <stickyboy> Arch ftw doe
[09:41] <Kilos> stickyboy are you back yet?
[09:43] <stickyboy> Kilos: Yah, back in KE since Sunday.
[09:43] <stickyboy> Kilos: Currently preparing a presentation to my group about GitHub Pages.
[09:43] <stickyboy> https://alanorth.github.io/github-pages-2015
[09:43] <stickyboy> Source is on GitHub of course.
[09:43] <stickyboy> :P
[09:43] <Kilos> sigh
[09:44] <Kilos> no more new stuff to learn man
[09:44] <stickyboy> Kilos: I know how you feel.
[09:45] <Kilos> ive been told to conserve what brain i have left
[09:45] <MaNI> well I'm a man who uses gentoo and hangs around here, I don't belong to anyone :P
[09:45] <Kilos> but you like the git thing so go for it
[09:46] <Kilos> MaNI once you have been here a while you become part of the family
[09:46] <MaNI> ;)
[09:50] <Kilos> same as stickyboy , i found him wandering around in the bush in kenya
[09:53] <Kilos> not poaching though, he thinks a rifle is a fancy kind of walking stick
[09:58] <stickyboy> I had a shirt back in the day with a rifle breaking in half.
[09:58] <stickyboy> :P
[09:58] <Kilos> lol
[10:00] <Kilos> so Jacques_Stry suggestions on hosting that book thing
[10:01] <Kilos> I am the in between guy so chat directly to william about it
[10:01] <Kilos> or mail him
[10:01] <Kilos> he only gets here on meeting nights
[10:03] <MaNI> heh
[10:04] <Jacques_Stry> Kilos: Well we can get a dedicated server from OVH for R65 per month?
[10:05] <Kilos> wait till tomorrow i think padroni can get it cheaper
[10:05] <Kilos> where did you test booktype
[10:07] <Jacques_Stry> http://booktype-demo.sourcefabric.org/
[10:07] <Jacques_Stry> just have to create an account to test
[10:11] <Kilos> ah
[10:12] <Kilos> drop that link in the list maybe
[10:14] <Jacques_Stry> Got it from the list
[10:14] <Kilos> aha cool
[10:15] <Kilos> so we need a local server
[10:15] <Kilos> sigh
[10:15] <Jacques_Stry> https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-za/2015-April/011658.html
[10:15] <Jacques_Stry> Does it have to be hosted locally?
[10:15] <Kilos> nono ive read them all
[10:15] <Kilos> i suppose not
[10:15] <Jacques_Stry> Nah I just posted the mail that has the link
[10:16] <Kilos> oh ty
[10:16] <Kilos> thats all beyong me
[10:16] <Kilos> beyond
[10:16] <Jacques_Stry> Thing is - Servers in SA is so expensive
[10:16] <Kilos> you see how well i type
[10:16] <Kilos> padroni has for good price
[10:17] <Kilos> i remember it was much cheaper than hetzner
[10:19] <Jacques_Stry> Well to host it you need terminal access - so will have to be VM-Hosting or dedicated
[10:19] <Kilos> its actually a major project that
[10:20] <Kilos> everything must be done online then put on a vm on a pc that can go around to schools with no internet
[10:21] <Jacques_Stry> Don't think it is necessary - Finished books can be downloaded as Ebooks so can work without internet access
[10:22] <Kilos> well you guys can work all that out
[10:22] <Jacques_Stry> :)
[10:22] <Kilos> lest just see what padrowants for a server
[10:22] <Kilos> lets
[10:22] <Jacques_Stry> jaja
[10:23] <Kilos> i think his yearly price was about what others monthly prices were
[10:23] <Kilos> i cant remember everything
[10:45] <Symmetri1> hrm
[10:45] <Symmetri1> question, if I have something like this:
[10:45] <Symmetri1> 123.123.123.123/20
[10:46] <Symmetri1> and I want a quick shell command I can echo 123.123.123.123/20 | ..............
[10:46] <Symmetri1> so that it returns 123.123.123.122/20
[10:46] <Symmetri1> (basically subtract one from the last octet)
[10:46] <Symmetri1> anyone got a command line like that for me?
[10:46] <Jacques_Stry> Mmm...
[10:47] <Kilos> oh Symmetri1 your mirror has been sick
[10:47] <Symmetri1> yeah I fixed it last night
[10:47] <Kilos> cool
[10:51] <Symmetri1> HAH
[10:52] <Symmetri1> aalston@home-server:~$ cat temp2 |sed s/\ \ \ //g |grep [0-9] |awk -F . '{split($4, s,"/"); last=s[1]-1; print $1"."$2"."$3"."last"/"s[2]}'
[10:52] <Symmetri1> ;p
[10:56] <Jacques_Stry> Holy cr@p
[10:56] <Jacques_Stry> you got it?
[10:57] <Symmetria> lol yes
[10:58] <Jacques_Stry> Thanks for posting - I learned a few things
[10:58] <Symmetria> the awk statement divides the IP address into 4 parts, the last part still has the /cidr mask on it, so it then splits the last parameter again into an array, and subtracts from the actual ip, then prints the changed thing out again
[10:59] <Symmetria> the sed and the grep were just fixes to the file to cut out leading crap and stuff
[10:59] <Symmetria> but its the awk statement thats important
[10:59] <Jacques_Stry> Nice
[11:09] <Kilos> Jacques_Stry i think i found the right person. keep it up
[11:10] <Kilos> im sure betwwen you and william the result will be problem solved
[11:11] <Jacques_Stry> Haha
[11:11] <Kilos> im so clever hey
[11:11] <Kilos> hehe
[11:12] <Kilos> the other mails were all advice and noone doing anything
[11:12] <Kilos> poor william
[11:12] <Jacques_Stry> ;) That Ubuntu board member organizational skills coming to out
[11:13] <Kilos> haha too soon man
[11:14] <Jacques_Stry> ...and evidently not my English skills...
[11:15] <Kilos> np im tweetaling
[13:02] <kulelu88> ping
[13:03] <Kilos> you pinging who kulelu88
[13:03] <kulelu88> it works :D
[13:03] <Kilos> you ping yourself
[13:03] <Kilos> ping
[13:03] <Kilos> i see nothing
[13:04] <Kilos> oh you mean the lappy works now
[13:11] <Jacques_Stry> haha
[13:12] <Kilos> Maaz it
[13:12] <Maaz> Kilos: it is Saturday
[13:12] <Kilos> ai!
[13:13] <Kilos> i forget how the pro does the it thing
[13:18] <Kilos> it doesnt work
[13:18] <Jacques_Stry> haha
[13:18] <Kilos> lol
[13:33] <Jacques_Stry> bb chat later
[13:33] <Kilos> ok
[14:14] <georgelappies> hi Kilos
[14:15] <Kilos> hi georgelappies
[14:26] <georgelappies> how are you today Kilos?
[14:28] <Kilos> im good ty georgelappies and you?
[14:28] <Kilos> you at home already
[14:28] <Kilos> ?
[14:29] <georgelappies> hi Kilos yes I am
[14:29] <georgelappies> I am good thanks
[14:50] <Padroni> hi
[17:00] <Kilos> load shedding huh
[17:01] <Kilos> for those without idiot boxes watch this, i think its a classic
[17:01] <Kilos> http://www.santam.co.za/posts/santam-news/our-latest-tv-ad-one-of-a-kind-insurance-for-a-one-of-a-kind-country/
[17:01] <Kilos> inetpro you also look
[17:08] <Padroni> hi kilos
[17:08] <Padroni> I've seen that
[17:08] <Kilos> hi Padroni whats news?
[17:09] <Padroni> nothing much
[17:09] <Padroni> loadshitting
[17:09] <Padroni> rain
[17:09] <Padroni> slow internet
[17:09] <Padroni> no complaints
[17:09] <Kilos> we just had 2.5 hours in the dark
[17:10] <Padroni> so did we
[17:10] <Padroni> came back 16H30
[17:10] <Padroni> off again at 22H00
[17:10] <Kilos> eish
[17:10] <Padroni> dit is fokken belaglik
[17:10] <Kilos> sies man
[17:11] <Kilos> bad news this load shedding. i need to find a gas powered pc
[17:16] <inetpro> ai tog!
[17:17] * inetpro guessing it's the wrong time to call him to order
[17:17] <Kilos> lol
[17:18] <inetpro> some real bad language there :-!
[17:19] * inetpro is the lucky one in this round
[17:19] <Kilos> why?
[17:19] <Kilos> oh no power cut
[17:19] <inetpro> busy charging my phone while I can
[17:19] <Kilos> lol
[17:20] <inetpro> don't tell anyone, but we have not had load shedding in this round
[17:20] <inetpro> just yet
[17:20] <Kilos> ssshhh
[17:20] <MaNI> do you live next to an embassy or something?
[17:21] <Kilos> lol
[17:21] <inetpro> feels like it
[17:21] <MaNI> only got shed once today, I guess that makes me 'lucky'
[17:21] <Kilos> lol
[17:21] <inetpro> kinda unfair, I know
[17:22] <inetpro> just doesn't make sense
[17:22] <inetpro> my bill will be higher than yours
[17:22] <MaNI> really need to buy myself some solar panels or something
[17:23] <Kilos> iits expensive, solar panels, batteries and inverter
[17:24] <inetpro> Kilos: yep, still very expensive
[17:24] <Kilos> laptops have the advantage when it comes to power outs
[17:40] <Kilos> i go eat
[18:05] <Kilos> why so quiet
[18:08] <Padroni> looking for a booktype alternative
[18:11] <Kilos> hmm...
[18:11] <Kilos> what is a dedicated server
[18:12] <inetpro> devoted to a task or purpose
[18:12] <Kilos> oh ty
[18:12] <inetpro> or exclusively allocated to or intended for a particular purpose
[18:17] <inetpro> kulelu88: wb
[18:17] <Kilos> wb kulelu88
[18:18] <inetpro> Kilos: I beat you! :-)
[18:18] <Kilos> not here you didnt
[18:18] <Kilos> <Kilos> wb kulelu88
[18:18] <Kilos> [15/04/2015 20:17] <inetpro> kulelu88: wb
[18:18] <Kilos> should we draw swords and sort it out
[18:19] <inetpro> ai!
[18:19] <superfly> Kilos: you can make your Kubuntu look and work like Unity
[18:19] * inetpro too tired for that
[18:19] * superfly found a new plasmoid
[18:19] <Kilos> eeeek
[18:19] <Kilos> leave my kde alone superfly
[18:19] <inetpro> superfly: that sounds interesting
[18:20] <inetpro> what version?
[18:20] <superfly> 4
[18:21] <Kilos> why would anyone want to do that
[18:21] <inetpro> not that I want it, just asking for interest sake
[18:22] <superfly> http://pasteboard.co/2ABdGJFq.png
[18:23] <Kilos> wow you did it by you superfly ?
[18:24] <superfly> it's really simple to set up
[18:24] <Kilos> nono im happy ty
[18:25] <Kilos> only thing wrong with my kde is , it cant keep the power on
[18:27] <Kilos> but that does look interesting
[18:27] <inetpro> ai!
[18:28] <kulelu88> thank you Kilos and inetpro
[18:28] <kulelu88> i switched from 3G back to ADSL
[18:28] * inetpro still likes the windows95 extended look and feel
[18:28] <kulelu88> in 2025 I may be on fibre
[18:29] <kulelu88> XFCE ftw!
[18:29] <kulelu88> XFCE woot!
[18:29] <inetpro> KDE took the windows 95 and improved in ways that not even windows 7 could catch up with
[18:29] <Kilos> kulelu88 did you fix the 3g thing
[18:29] <inetpro> and then they gave up
[18:29] <kulelu88> ja, turns out it isn't network locked on the dongle
[18:29] <Kilos> i love kde
[18:30] <kulelu88> something occurred to me and that is that we have very few hack-like sites in SA. hack = DIY kind of things
[18:30] <Kilos> i replace xfce today with 12.04 unity again
[18:31] <inetpro> Kilos: with windows 8, MS became their own biggest enemy
[18:31] <inetpro> users don't like change
[18:31] <Kilos> it works ok if you install an app that adds the start button and its stuff
[18:32] <Kilos> thats what i did with the second lappy i fixed
[18:32] <Kilos> makes it much of a muchness with 7
[18:32] <inetpro> superfly: do you like it this way?
[18:36] <superfly> inetpro: so far, no. but that's normal with change.
[18:36] <inetpro> true
[18:38] <kulelu88> my setup looks similar to Unity, but I have everything at the bottom and hotkeys on the left also
[18:38] <inetpro> the one thing I have adopted from unity is the positions of the titlebar buttons
[18:38] * inetpro moved them from right corner to left corner
[18:40] <Kilos> shhh now
[18:40] <inetpro> took a while to get used to that but really enjoy them on the left now
[18:40] <Kilos> im changing nothing
[18:40] <inetpro> Kilos: ?
[18:40] <Kilos> you normally go on and on til i try stuff
[18:40] <Kilos> ty im enjoying TB
[18:41] <Kilos> no more now too busy
[18:42] <inetpro> Kilos: http://pasteboard.co/2ACw1PjR.png
[18:43] <Kilos> i have 10 workspaces in that corner
[18:43] <Kilos> the switcher thing
[18:44] <inetpro> ai!
[18:45] <Kilos> eish how many channels do you watch?
[18:45] <inetpro> plenty
[18:46] <inetpro> but it's less than 50
[18:46] <Kilos> lol
[18:46] <Kilos> i battle with 6
[18:46] <Kilos> and pidgin
[18:47] <Kilos> first meeting was this avy
[18:47] <Kilos> luckily no new candidates
[18:47] <Kilos> so i could rest
[18:48] <Kilos> we need to push for members
[18:49] <Kilos> inetpro you have procrastinated long enough now
[18:52] <Padroni> right
[18:52] <Padroni> I am off
[18:52] <Padroni> laters, folks
[18:53] <Kilos> night Padroni
[18:53] <Kilos> sleep tight
[18:53] <Kilos> see ya morrow
[18:53] <Padroni> and you, mate
[18:54] <inetpro> uh
[18:54] <inetpro> Padroni: good night
[18:54] <Padroni> ciao
[18:54] <inetpro> Kilos: no
[18:55] <kulelu88> do any of you okes listen to house music>?
[18:55] <inetpro> what we need to focus on now is Release Parties!
[18:55] <Kilos> sigh
[18:55] <inetpro> we need a release party in each town and city
[18:55] <Kilos> i spose any excuse is better than none
[18:55] <Kilos> eish
[18:56] <inetpro> Kilos: you're in charge of arranging that
[18:56] <Kilos> 16.04 ya
[18:56] <kulelu88> imagine a release party in bloemfontein and ermelo
[18:56] <Kilos> nope
[18:56] <inetpro> can't just sit there and look pretty
[18:56] <Kilos> i have the whip
[18:56] <inetpro> use it
[18:56] <inetpro> but not on me, again
[18:56] <Kilos> hibana gee terug my sjambok asb
[18:56] <Kilos> you havent done one inetpro
[18:57] <inetpro> ahh... you see, he doesn't even have it
[18:57] <Kilos> i have a whip now, reach is 5 times or more than a sjambok
[18:57] <hibana> Kilos: I'll give it back on one condition
[18:57] <Kilos> leather plaited
[18:58] <Kilos> what hibana ?
[18:58] <hibana> you use it to make sparks so people get into a party mood
[18:58] <Kilos> lol
[18:59] <Kilos> i battle to get them out of bed
[18:59] * hibana tucks it away again
[18:59] <Kilos> the mood isnt the prob its the time
[18:59] <Kilos> ai!
[18:59] <Kilos> hmm...
[19:00] <Kilos> i thought he was my friend
[19:00] <Kilos> hibana lets negotiate
[19:00] <kulelu88> don't call it a release party. call it a braai and everyone will show up. a free braai and people who dont use ubuntu will show up
[19:00] <inetpro> Kilos: go see what inetpro posted under current activities
[19:00] <inetpro> https://trello.com/c/gZgulbMO
[19:01] <Kilos> nono man vivid is a short term release
[19:02] <inetpro> every release needs a party to celebrate
[19:02] <Kilos> yes i agree but
[19:02] <Kilos> you find 5 peeps here with the time
[19:02] <inetpro> every release is better than the previous release
[19:06] <Kilos> i am actually tempted to get 15.04
[19:06] <Kilos> mainly for plasma 5 and to see what systemd does better
[19:07] <Kilos> will the command be update-systemd
[19:09] <inetpro> Kilos: http://loco.ubuntu.com/events/global/3075/
[19:10] <inetpro> only one party listed in Africa so far
[19:10] <inetpro> not good enough sir!
[19:10] <kulelu88> party by Kilos house
[19:10] <kulelu88> release + rave party
[19:11] <Kilos> lol
[19:12] * pieter2627 is yawning and off to bed
[19:12] <Kilos> sjoe
[19:12] <Kilos> that was fast
[19:14] <Kilos> inetpro you are granted the power to organise as many as you can
[19:16] <inetpro> nee jy verstaan verkeerd meneer die voorsitter van die partytjiebeplanningskomitee
[19:16] <Kilos> o dis nie ekke nie
[19:16] <Kilos> sjoe
[19:16] <inetpro> Kilos: just talk about it, every day man
[19:18] <Kilos> why dont you mail the lists, they dont listen to me
[19:18] <Kilos> they accuse me of spam
[19:18] <Kilos> lol actually only one did
[19:42] <inetpro> wb Private_User
[19:42] <Kilos> hi Private_User
[19:43] <Kilos> im about falling asleep here
[19:45] <Kilos> ty my inetpro
[19:45] * inetpro still doing the mexican wave \o/
[19:46] <Kilos> sjoe @ubuntuza followers are growing hey
[19:46] <Kilos> your turn next my man
[19:47] <Kilos> youre
[19:50] <Kilos> night all. sleep tight
[22:44] <gremble> o/
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2015-04-15-#kubuntu-devel
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[00:02] <mparillo> valorie: You mentioned some bugs needed to be verified? I just upgraded and re-booted.
[00:19] <valorie> mparillo: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/krunner/+bug/1444196 and https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubiquity/+bug/1428877 and https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=346190 and https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=346191
[00:20] <valorie> what?
[00:20] <valorie> partman was not my bug
[00:20] <valorie> damn it
[00:20] <valorie> anyway, off to dinner
[00:23] * ahoneybun thinks getting notifications about snapchat on his awesome KDE desktop is bada**
[00:24] <ahoneybun> the partman one is getting worked on anyway
[00:28] <mparillo> valorie: Thank you. The launchpad bugs I could verify were already verified. On BKO, I could only add a comment, which I did.
[00:54] <mparillo> Do only special people get to change a BKO bug Status from Unconfirmed to Confirmed?
[01:31] <darthanubis> still doesn't reboot from GUI
[01:37] <darthanubis> http://picpaste.com/snapshot6-jJytQt1P.png
[01:37] <darthanubis> The package definately installed from cmdline with no errors
[02:11] <valorie> mparillo: yes, it takes karma
[02:12] <valorie> you can ask for more, and will probably get it
[02:12] <valorie> ask in #kde-bugs
[02:13] <valorie> when europeans will be awake
[02:13] <valorie> darthanubis: did you try `sudo apt install -f` ?
[02:14] * valorie just had the last dinner with husband for long months -- he flies out tomorrow for his half-year long hike: http://bobofwashington.blogspot.com
[02:42] <valorie> mparillo: thanks for the confirmation
[04:45] <darthanubis> Why would I do that if there is nothing to force?
[04:46] <darthanubis> As I said, the package is installed.
[05:04] <valorie> darthanubis: true
[05:04] <valorie> and usually that's what it says
[06:23] <soee> good morning
[08:42] <soee> Riddell: ping
[08:51] <Riddell> hi soee
[09:01] <soee> Riddell: did you get info about this 2 bugs after KF 5.9 upgrade ?
[09:03] <Riddell> soee: krunner not searching and no right click
[09:03] <Riddell> neither of which I seem to be affected by but I'll try a live cd now
[09:03] <Riddell> not to hard to revert krunner and plasma frameworks I guess
[09:04] <Riddell> but hopefully frameworks dudes can say what's up, such bugs go against all their stability guarantees
[09:05] <soee> Riddell: nice, 2 users reported it on g+ and today one on support channel
[09:06] <soee> Riddell: good news is i was able to run nvidia drivers finally, but its worth mentione taht only 346 version works here
[09:06] <Riddell> oh nice
[09:06] <soee> with 340 we can experiance what i mentioned in last comment https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/nvidia-prime/+bug/1428328
[09:08] <tsdgeos> Riddell: krunner does nothing here too
[09:08] <tsdgeos> may be related to that half of the frameworkrs are still in 5.8.0
[09:31] <Riddell> oh that's a thought, the qa stuff has broken and blocked half the transitions
[09:32] <Riddell> soee: are you able to enable proposed and check if that helps?
[09:32] <soee> Riddell: im on my PC @ work now so i do not want to break it :D
[09:47] <Riddell> ok I just installed today's daily and it does that have problems, installing proposed now..
[09:51] <Riddell> yep all solved by upgrading to -proposed, yay
[09:51] <Riddell> qa tools causing qa problems :)
[09:51] <Riddell> but strictly speaking they are valid bugs, no reason you should have to upgrade all frameworks at once
[09:56] <soee> hmm
[10:06] <lordievader> Good afternoon.
[10:11] <vip> hi ho, anybody experienced no right mouse/wheel working on desktop after latest update (vivid)?
[10:11] <sitter> Riddell: workspace still broken on ci
[10:12] <Riddell> vip: yep, upgrade to vivid-proposed should fix it
[10:13] <vip> Riddell: thank you
[10:13] <Blizzz> Congrats! The first word my son can spell is Kubuntu.
[10:14] <shadeslayer> :D
[10:15] <Riddell> Blizzz: yay, lovely!
[10:15] <Riddell> mparillo: worth a twitter post surely? :) ↑
[10:15] <Blizzz> :)
[10:28] <Riddell> ahoneybun: did you ever get to do the muon banners?
[10:47] <Riddell> soee: does muon-discover start for you?
[10:47] <Riddell> vip: ↑ can you test too?
[10:49] <vip> it starts, shows slider
[10:52] <soee> Riddell: ues and i have an extra window with info trhat im using new kwallet, and it asks me if i want to move wallet content to new version
[10:53] <soee> *yes
[10:54] <soee> vip: you are first time on this channel or i havent noticed you before ?
[10:54] <Riddell> thanks vip, soee. I found my problem seems it was a proxy settings and an issue in kio
[10:55] <mparillo> Blizzz: Assuming I quote you, is that the way you would like to be quoted, or is that all a joke. You know that subtle UK humour that we Yanks miss.
[10:56] <Blizzz> mparillo: yep. and no joke.
[11:08] <soee> Riddell: thanks for the fix to Web Browser plasmoid
[11:10] <Riddell> de nada :)
[11:13] <vip> soee: I'm usually here when I step onto showstopper bug ;)
[11:15] <soee> vip: maybe you want to stay for a longer and sometimes help with testing isos etc. ? ~.~
[11:15] <Riddell> we'll need lots of testing over the next 10 days
[11:15] <Riddell> actually 8 days
[11:17] <vip> soee: Marcin Sągol?
[11:17] <soee> vip: yup
[11:18] <vip> soee: last time i've tried kubuntu isos under vbox, there was black screen ;)
[11:18] <vip> so I decided to early upgrade to alphas, betas, etc
[11:18] <vip> soee: but sure, I can test them
[11:19] <soee> vip: beta 2 isos worked fine for me in VB
[11:19] <soee> Riddell: maybe add him to testers if hes fine with it ?
[11:19] <Riddell> Tm_T: can you add vip to testers call?
[11:22] <soee> vip: cool, than stay on the channel and is new isos are ready for tests, kubotu will call you ;)
[11:22] <soee> kubotu: hi
[11:22] <kubotu> 'morning soee :)
[11:27] <vip> soee: ok
[11:40] <soee> ahoneybun: ping
[12:20] <xennex81> I'm still doing the writeup on the website but it taking a bit long.. and Calligra is again failing on me ;-) :(.
[12:21] <soee> LO
[12:24] <xennex81> hi
[12:24] <soee> LO = libre office ;D
[12:25] <soee> but yes, hiho
[12:31] <ovidiu-florin> hello blue geared planet :D
[12:49] <Riddell> mparillo: maybe a wire post pointing to http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2015/04/beta-plasma-5-3-features ?
[12:50] <mparillo> On it. That said, we will not get them until backports?
[12:50] <Riddell> mparillo: just give a warning about the qr code :)
[12:51] <Riddell> mparillo: yeah backports but the article includes a pointer to a CI image which includes it
[12:51] <mparillo> Warning?
[12:52] <Riddell> mparillo: with a smiley :)
[12:52] <BluesKaj> Hiyas all
[12:52] <Riddell> it's a secret link to this classic photo from akademy https://www.flickr.com/photos/jriddell/11502661506
[12:58] <BluesKaj> ok, after upgrading to the new kernel version we have missing context menus on the desktop and some in the panel. I suppose you guys arfe aware of this already ?
[12:58] <BluesKaj> are
[12:59] <Riddell> BluesKaj: yeah, install frameworks packages from vivid-proposed
[12:59] <soee> :)
[12:59] <xennex81> lol libre office is too ugly and it still doesn't work ;-)
[12:59] <xennex81> haha
[12:59] <xennex81> 'lo
[12:59] <soee> :o
[13:00] <xennex81> I was just about to get something and then it crashed again
[13:00] <xennex81> :(
[13:00] <soee> works fine for me
[13:00] <Riddell> google docs is your friend
[13:00] <BluesKaj> Riddell, not going the propsed route, i can live with it for now
[13:00] <soee> xennex81: calligra doesnt work for you or crashes? LO the same : )
[13:00] <soee> your machine is broken
[13:00] <xennex81> no LO doesn't crash
[13:01] <xennex81> my heart is broken
[13:01] <xennex81> :(
[13:01] <xennex81> you were so nice to me before :p
[13:01] <xennex81> :P
[13:01] * soee hugs xennex81
[13:01] <BluesKaj> !enter | xennex81
[13:01] <xennex81> aaaah
[13:01] <xennex81> aaw
[13:02] <BluesKaj> xennex81, refain fom overuse of the enter key please
[13:03] <xennex81> i do my best, my friend....
[13:03] <xennex81> i sometimes cannot express myself fully in one line and I sometimes also have trouble knowing what to say.....
[13:03] <xennex81> my APOLOGIES
[13:04] <xennex81> that is just how chat goes, get used to it?
[13:05] <xennex81> i once had someone who wanted me to use less enters because her chat program made a sound on every new line
[13:05] <xennex81> seriously...
[13:11] <xennex81> instead of turning off the sound really, she wanted me to chat differently.
[13:12] <xennex81> princess on the pea we call that, and it can apply to guys as well ;-).
[13:25] <BluesKaj> call it what you want , it's irrelavent to this chat ..please stay on topic
[13:27] <xennex81> i'm on the topic of getting to do something for your team, that's what I'm doing
[13:27] <xennex81> now stay away if you don't like it, I was just chatting a little with this soee person, nothing bad, nothing much
[13:28] <xennex81> you don't have to go make a problem out of every small issue as if it is all around and all prevalent
[13:28] <xennex81> and there is nothing else going on in this chat either
[13:28] <xennex81> so what's the problem...
[13:28] <xennex81> i'm sorry if I broke your concentration
[13:28] <BluesKaj> xennex81, blah blah blah
[13:29] <xennex81> yeah, bla bla bla
[13:29] <xennex81> now bye
[13:29] <BluesKaj> good riddance
[13:29] <Riddell> oh dear
[13:29] <xennex81> little children you are
[13:29] <Riddell> oh dear oh dear
[13:29] <BluesKaj> my ngoodness :)
[13:32] <soee> ~.~
[13:33] * sitter feels like pointing out that it's not tuesday and drama must only happen on tuesday
[13:33] <sitter> stop screwing with my schedule!
[13:34] <soee> ;D
[13:36] <BluesKaj> the guy was musing in here yesterday about mostly nothing ...lost patience
[13:39] <BluesKaj> Riddell, what is the proposed ppa/repos? I might give it a try
[13:39] <Riddell> BluesKaj: software-properties-kde -> updates -> unreleased
[13:39] <Riddell> I think it is
[13:41] <soee> Riddell: following Alberto's comment here https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/nvidia-prime/+bug/1428328 it would be good after release to mentione somewhere that 346 driver shoudl be used id one wants to use propriety
[13:53] <BluesKaj> Riddell, I found software-properties-kde -> updates -> prereleased in muon, giving that a try
[13:59] <BluesKaj> Riddell, I installed the plasma-framework from the proposed. Is it safe to upgrade the rest of the packagesin that repos or should I drop it ?
[14:00] <Riddell> BluesKaj: dunno, best drop it if you don't want to play risky
[14:00] <Riddell> BluesKaj: would be good to confirm if it is plasma-framework specifically too
[14:00] <BluesKaj> Riddell, good, will do, thanks
[14:04] <BluesKaj> no change after installing plasma-frameworks ...maybe a relogin
[14:05] <BluesKaj> nope, logout doesn't work
[14:17] <BluesKaj> ok, the plasma-frameworks di the trick Riddell, context menus seem to be restored
[14:19] <Riddell> yay
[14:19] <Riddell> and I just uploaded kate so maybe it can transition to -release shortly
[14:19] * BluesKaj wonders about the rest of the package in prereleased :)
[14:23] <BluesKaj> gonna give it a try anyway just to see what happens ...still have 14.10 on the other HDD :)
[14:41] <sitter> Riddell: kate broken, okteta broken
[14:41] <sitter> workspace still broken
[14:44] <Riddell> meh it's just fuzz http://kci.pangea.pub/job/vivid_stable_kate/6/console
[14:44] <Riddell> what's a good way to unfuzz that?
[14:50] <Riddell> fixed I hope
[14:50] <sitter> Riddell: standard scenario I linked you yesterday
[14:51] <sitter> simply hop into stable remove the patch, hop into unstable merge stable and push all three
[14:51] <sitter> in fact you'd also get away with simply removing it in stable as the merger would then take care of unstable
[14:51] <Riddell> sitter: I did just remove it, I was confused by it saying it was fuzzy but it's not
[14:51] <sitter> ah
[14:51] <sitter> well, it could be fuzzy against stable
[14:51] <Riddell> and okteta was never uploaded with 14.12.3 for some reason
[14:52] <sitter> uh, needs more qa
[14:53] <BluesKaj> ok, ugraded with the proposed repos enabled looking good so far
[15:04] <BluesKaj> Riddell, I suppose after this successful upgrade with proposed I should disable it for the time being
[15:07] <BluesKaj> which I just did for safety's sake
[15:07] <Riddell> yes
[16:44] <BluesKaj> for some reason dolphin and some others don't use the colour scheme chosen in system settings, yet others like kate do use the chosen colour...wonder gives
[16:44] <BluesKaj> what gives
[16:47] <Riddell> BluesKaj: dolphin is kdelibs4, system settings is kf5
[16:47] <Riddell> although they should be synced
[16:49] <BluesKaj> ok , still kde4, didn't ralize
[16:49] <BluesKaj> realize rather
[16:49] <BluesKaj> I should have checked
[16:52] <BluesKaj> I've been trying to set the fonts in apps requiring root permissins with kdesudo systemsettings5 in krunner but only the text inside the file contents uses the settings, the toolbars and titles etc still use the small default fonts
[17:35] <sgclark> Riddell: sorry, did anyone run applications?
[17:36] <Riddell> sgclark: what what?
[17:37] <sgclark> applications due out tomorrow? or was it plasma ? gosh I am scattered
[17:39] <sgclark> Riddell: ok let me rephrase - anything I can do to be useful that involves a script?
[17:40] <Riddell> sgclark: plasma beta was out yesterday
[17:40] <Riddell> applications was out an hour ago :)
[17:40] <sgclark> doh
[17:40] <Riddell> packaging either would be lovely
[17:40] <sgclark> ok
[17:41] <Riddell> involves merging from kubuntu_unstable
[17:41] <sgclark> this kde-ci was more work than I ever imagined
[17:41] <sgclark> Riddell: I thought our script does that now?
[17:41] <sgclark> s/was/is/
[17:41] <kubotu> sgclark: You did something wrong... Try s/you/me/ or tell me "help sed"
[17:41] <Riddell> sgclark: I thought so too but I haven't checked
[17:41] <Riddell> yofel: thanks for uploading akonadi, accepted
[17:42] <sgclark> did we have complaints on my last frameworks batch?
[17:43] <Riddell> sgclark: nothing that is packagers fault, I got the fix for the kpeople overlapping translations upstream and plasma-frameworks is still stuck in -proposed due to some cmake failures it highlighted in kate/okteta which breaks some bits of plasma
[17:43] <Riddell> but that's all upstream's fault not ours :)
[17:44] <sgclark> okies
[17:46] <yofel> follow up mail for akonadi coming, this thing is sooo... ... fun
[17:47] <Riddell> yofel: you'll be pleased to know akonadi-qt5 is due for release in the coming few months so you can have twice the fun packaging that
[17:47] <yofel> \o/
[17:55] <debfx> yofel: when allowing alternative mysqld implementations in the akonadi mysql package you also have to consider that there is an apparmor profile
[17:55] <debfx> which may or may not break them
[18:00] <yofel> hm, true. But shouldn't that be solved by our wrapper script and our own profile?
[18:00] <sgclark> Riddell: applications is a stable release right?
[18:00] <yofel> Sure, it can be that a server doesn't quite behave like the official server, but then I don't quite believe it should be an alternative for it...
[18:01] <Riddell> sgclark: yep 15.04.0 https://www.kde.org/announcements/announce-applications-15.04.0.php
[18:01] <sgclark> ty
[18:01] <Riddell> sgclark: it's to go into kubuntu-ppa/backports
[18:02] <Riddell> so it needs merged into a magic new branch i think
[18:02] <Riddell> kubuntu_vivid_backports
[18:02] <Riddell> sgclark: so I think it's kubuntu_stable branch needs branched to be called kubuntu_vivid_backports
[18:02] <sgclark> okies. will start with ninjas to test, then I do believe sitter made a backport branch.. need to dig up that email
[18:03] <Riddell> sgclark: put it into here https://launchpad.net/~kubuntu-ppa/+archive/ubuntu/next-stage2
[18:03] <sgclark> Riddell: ok
[18:35] <sbeattie> Hi yofel, I see you have an akonadi package in vivid-proposed. Are you working on additional issues, and if so, can you fix https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/akonadi/+bug/1440501 as well? Thanks.
[18:38] <Riddell> debfx: you agee with sbeattie's patch? https://launchpadlibrarian.net/203386144/akonadi_1.13.0-2ubuntu4.debdiff
[18:43] <Riddell> sbeattie: yofel should be around soon to review else I'll take a look in the morning
[18:43] <sbeattie> Riddell: thanks.
[18:48] <debfx> Riddell: yes, but needs some testing first since the profile has been broken (not loaded) for some time
[19:11] <soee> Riddell: when those packages might be released from proposed ?
[19:11] <Riddell> soee: when okteta compiles
[19:11] <soee> Riddell: ok, thanks
[19:11] <debfx> Riddell: seems to be fine. I didn't see any denials from apparmor in my tests.
[19:12] <Riddell> great thanks debfx
[19:21] <soee> iv post about nvidia drivers: https://plus.google.com/110954078302330754910/posts/5z3k8xaP1FA
[19:21] <soee> *posted
[19:22] <soee> to inform users that they shoudl use 346 driver version if tehy have nvidia
[19:34] <tuv0k> http://picpaste.com/snapshot6-jJytQt1P.png
[19:34] <tuv0k> so Iam really the only one with this issue?
[19:35] <yofel> sbeattie, Riddell: I'll take a look
[19:36] <soee> tuv0k: but yuo can install this package ?
[19:37] <tuv0k> I've said here many times, the package is installed.
[19:37] <tuv0k> oh that was a question
[19:37] <tuv0k> sorry
[19:37] <tuv0k> yes, I can install the package, via cmdline and package manager
[19:38] <tuv0k> It pulls the package, I agree to use it, it unpacks all the fonts, and installs them with zero errors
[19:38] <tuv0k> something is not right
[19:39] <soee> hmm i have it installed and dont have such messages
[19:39] <tuv0k> it only pops up upon relogin to the desktopp
[19:39] <tuv0k> well not pop, but appear in the notification area
[19:54] <Riddell> tuv0k: I guess it's a debconf issue
[19:54] <Riddell> that mscorefonts package needs a debconf dialogue
[19:54] <Riddell> so that needs checking
[20:01] <Riddell> sgclark: are you going to look at plasma or apps backports?
[20:02] <sgclark> look at? I just ran apps and tons of failures
[20:02] <Riddell> sgclark: what sort of failures?
[20:02] <sgclark> I don't know what your asking my Riddell
[20:02] <sgclark> git merge failed
[20:03] <Riddell> sgclark: what's merging? isn't it new backports branches?
[20:03] <sgclark> stable
[20:05] <sgclark> into backports branch. which I suspect it is all the kde4 ones that failed maybe. I don't know
[20:05] <Riddell> it sounds like you're doing the right thing
[20:06] <Riddell> sgclark: give me an example of a failing one and I'll look at it
[20:06] <sgclark> amor
[20:06] <Riddell> that's the most important package, we need to get that one right!
[20:06] <sgclark> damn straight lol
[20:06] <sgclark> already took away my ktux
[20:08] <ovidiu-florin> soee: ping
[20:09] <soee> hi ovidiu-florin
[20:09] <ovidiu-florin> you said you'd do something about the images
[20:09] <ovidiu-florin> some converting to jpeg I think
[20:09] <soee> ovidiu-florin: what images ?
[20:09] <soee> oh that i do not remember
[20:10] <soee> ovidiu-florin: i just said it would be good to add some plugin for lazy loading images
[20:10] <ovidiu-florin> that's not helpful enough
[20:10] <ovidiu-florin> if the image that get's loaded first is HUGE
[20:11] <Riddell> sgclark: looks like there is no kubuntu_stable or _unstable for the kde4 applications so no merging needed for them, just dch -i and throw into the ppa and see what breaks
[20:12] <ovidiu-florin> soee: do you think converting them to jpeg would be better?
[20:12] <_Groo_> hi/2 all
[20:12] <soee> ovidiu-florin: it shoudl decreese size but not sure home much it wil help
[20:12] <Riddell> hi _Groo_
[20:12] <_Groo_> can someone confirm if mtp works with dolphin in vivid or kf5 utopic?
[20:13] <_Groo_> hi Riddell
[20:14] <sgclark> Riddell: okies ty
[20:15] <yofel> sbeattie: uploaded, thanks!
[20:15] <Riddell> sgclark: there's 72 kf5 applications though so I guess lots will need packaging updated from kde4 https://www.kde.org/announcements/announce-applications-15.04.0.php
[20:17] <yofel> how are you folks doing backports these days?
[20:17] <sgclark> Riddell: ... welp I still have crap tons going on with my ci, I will do my best as I can.
[20:18] <_Groo_> Riddell: do you have an android phone? does mtp works with vivid and dolphin?
[20:18] <yofel> hm, let me fetch my phone
[20:19] <_Groo_> yofel: kio-mtp is broken since you guys changed the kf5 meta package... and although there is a kio-mtp.so in kf5 kio-extras, dolphin doesnt use it... so i cant install kio-mtp nor use the kf5 one
[20:20] <_Groo_> https://www.irccloud.com/pastebin/kCFub3O5
[20:20] <_Groo_> see the pastebin, this is for utopic
[20:20] <yofel> well, dolphin is still qt4, so that wouldn't work I guess
[20:20] <_Groo_> i believe its not working in vivid too
[20:20] <_Groo_> thats why kio-mtp exists
[20:20] <yofel> lets see
[20:20] <_Groo_> but the kf5 meta package is not allowing it to install
[20:21] <_Groo_> so you guys either change the plasma-desktop meta, or backport kio-mtp to utopic/vivid
[20:21] <yofel> installing that worked fine here
[20:21] <_Groo_> in vivid?
[20:21] <yofel> yes
[20:22] <_Groo_> so is the utopic kio-mtp thats broken
[20:22] <yofel> although that sounds like something that should be there by default
[20:22] <Riddell> kdelibs4 kio-mtp is installed by default
[20:22] <yofel> oh wait, it's recommended o.O
[20:22] <yofel> I wonder why I didn't have it..
[20:23] <_Groo_> can you take a look at the utopic kio-mtp?
[20:23] <_Groo_> https://www.irccloud.com/pastebin/D0mbPGL8
[20:24] <_Groo_> take a look at this pastebin with -o 'Debug::pkgProblemResolver=true'
[20:30] <yofel> _Groo_: so, for me mtp seems to work fine in dolphin now that my packages are fixed
[20:31] <yofel> _Groo_: and the utopic packages are practically unmaintained, you're better off just upgrading to vivid
[20:32] <_Groo_> yofel: would it kill you guys to fix the plasma-desktop metapackage? it was working fine before the update... and yes, ill upgrade to vivid once its out
[20:32] <_Groo_> i mean in kubuntu-ci utopic
[20:32] <yofel> well, I'll leave that to sgclark or Riddell then. I have no idea how the utopic ci setup looks like
[20:34] <sgclark> I have not touched utopic in the least, sitter is the one there..
[20:34] <soee> oh searching works
[20:35] <sbeattie> yofel: thank you!
[20:36] <Riddell> I don't think anyone does utopic now
[20:36] <yofel> well, _Groo_ does...
[20:37] <yofel> or well, as in maintains, right, nobody
[20:40] <Riddell> meh I'm stuck on okteta
[20:40] <Riddell> these symbols files are horrible
[20:46] <yofel> for backports? Just get rid of them
[20:46] <Riddell> yofel: no in vivid
[20:46] <Riddell> https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/okteta/4:14.12.3-0ubuntu3
[20:46] <yofel> oh, bummer
[20:47] <Riddell> running kubuntu-dev-tools/bin/kubuntu-update-symbols doesn't work
[20:47] <yofel> ah yeah, fixing arm symbols post-upload is a mess :/
[20:47] <Riddell> and downloading logs and running pkgkde-symbolshelper batchpatch -c i386,amd64,arm64,armhf,powerpc,ppc64el buildlog_ubuntu-vivid-* doesn't owrk
[20:47] <Riddell> work
[20:48] <Riddell> so I think I'll just mv *symbols *.symbols.amd64 and be done with it
[21:08] <Sput> Riddell: 0.12.0 is tagged http://quassel-irc.org/pub/quassel-0.12.0.tar.bz2
[21:08] <Sput> as usual the release announcement will take a few days, but the binary won't change anymore, so feel free to package
[21:08] <Sput> (no significant changes compared to rc1)
[21:09] <yofel> Riddell: oh, and if you're already busy, mind taking a look at akonadi in unapproved? ^^
[21:10] <Riddell> yofel, sbeattie: approved!
[21:10] <yofel> thanks
[21:13] <Riddell> ScottK, debfx: you guys are into quassel packaging, anyone able to update it for final or do I have to stop watching game of thrones?
[21:41] <Riddell> jr_: ook
[21:41] <jr_> ook
[21:43] <Sput> Riddell: sorry, meant to do the release earlier, but work has been killing me yesterday and today :/
[21:44] <Riddell> Sput: it's up!
[21:44] <Sput> \o/
[21:44] <Sput> thanks a lot!
[21:44] <Riddell> debfx, ScottK: you owe me an episode of game of thrones :)
[21:51] <ScottK> Riddell: You're welcome to any episode I have.
[21:51] <ScottK> Thanks.
[21:51] <ScottK> Was stuck doing actual paid work.
[21:53] <Sput> that dreaded paid work!
[21:58] <andreas_k> Hi tested the kubuntu installer and had two issues
[21:59] <andreas_k> 1. for the kubuntu installer an breeze app icons is missing. there was used oxygen other.apps icon.
[22:00] <andreas_k> 2. in the install overview the large icon in the white transludent are is sometimes arranged on top and sometimes vertical center.
[22:01] <andreas_k> I can make an breeze app icon for the installer if you like and push it to the repository, but I need the name.
[22:04] <Riddell> hi andreas_k, prth is our gsoc student who should be working on ubiquity this summer, he's your dude to fix these issues
[22:04] <andreas_k> ok perfect. I don't find other issues the installation was well done.
[22:05] <andreas_k> do you know the app icon name? Than you get an new one.
[22:06] <sgclark> ScottK: I will be in Virginia August 12-16ish. We will need to try to plan a meeting again. We will be renting a car this time.
[22:06] <Riddell> andreas_k: ubiquity-kde.png
[22:06] <andreas_k> thanks
[22:07] <Riddell> andreas_k: oh do you know Hugo or whoever does the breeze widget theme?
[22:07] <Riddell> andreas_k: the wifi page on ubiquity shows an obvious problem, you can't easily tell if widgets are enabled or disabled
[22:07] <ScottK> sgclark: OK. Cool. At least as far as I know know, I'll be around.
[22:08] <sgclark> great :) will ping you again when time is closer
[22:08] <ScottK> Great.
[22:09] <sgclark> ScottK: slso I am working on applications, I will let you know when I have updated seed
[22:09] <andreas_k> Riddell: No I don't know Hugo, but I/you can ask Jens or Thomas. What do you need? I don't use wifi for my installation :-)
[22:09] <ScottK> sgclark: OK.
[22:16] <Riddell> andreas_k: other images used https://paste.kde.org/pitmrxub2
[22:41] <Riddell> andreas_k: oh the libreoffice guy said it's too late for an update as part of the release next week but it can be added as a stable release update so people will get it on upgrading (which can be done during install)
[22:42] <andreas_k> damn.
[22:42] <andreas_k> I don't change anything only added more icons. there are no problems with the daily builds
[22:48] <Riddell> andreas_k: I'm afraid it's the way software goes, you need to freeze at some point to stop more problems creeping in
[22:50] <andreas_k> no problem. LO upgraded so often so no problem. I'm only sorry because the icons are quite old (2-3 weeks) so there are a huge number of missing icons.
[22:51] <andreas_k> but to be honest LO icons are really fun for me.
[22:53] <Riddell> andreas_k: you just work so fast we can't keep up with you :)
[23:01] <andreas_k> that could be ;-)
[23:33] <andreas_k> good night
[23:33] <Riddell> 16 bugs to fix http://goo.gl/Chh7uh
[23:40] <valorie> besides the two bugs I reported yesterday, the only oddity I'm still experiencing is in the slideshow on the desktop
[23:40] <valorie> when a new slide appears, the old one(s) are not erased -- just painted over
[23:40] <Riddell> valorie: plasma-framework should be in -release now
[23:40] <valorie> is that a kwin bug?
[23:40] <Riddell> slideshow on desktop?
[23:41] <valorie> yes
[23:41] <valorie> I have a new slide from a folder of astro pix etc.
[23:41] <valorie> once per hour
[23:41] <valorie> rather than the standard wallpaper
[23:42] <valorie> but in the last 6 mo. or so, the previous image stopped being removed when a new one appeared
[23:42] <valorie> no biggie, but rather strange
[23:42] <valorie> i"m sure it's just a bit of code that got misplaces
[23:42] <valorie> misplaced
[23:43] <valorie> unsure exactly when it started, because I don't often look at my desktop
[23:44] <Riddell> valorie: mm yes I see
[23:44] <Riddell> valorie: upstream bug I'm pretty sure
[23:44] <valorie> oh for sure
[23:44] <valorie> but against kwin?
[23:44] <valorie> plasmashell?
[23:45] <Riddell> valorie: yes Plasma
[23:45] <valorie> I'll ask in #plasma maybe
[23:45] <valorie> ok
[23:45] <Riddell> https://bugs.kde.org/enter_bug.cgi?product=plasmashell&format=guided
[23:45] <Riddell> I suppose it might be fixed with plasma 5.3
[23:46] <valorie> perhaps
[23:46] <valorie> but I won't get that for a week?
[23:47] <valorie> I could hold off until we have that and then file, since I seem to be the only person using slideshow
[23:49] <Riddell> valorie: there has been zero changes to slideshow wallpapers in the last year so just file it
[23:50] <valorie> ok
[23:51] <Riddell> and mention that you need different sized images to see the issue
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[00:39] <Elfon_> alo
[00:39] <astroo-> ola
[00:45] <Rudolf> lao
[00:45] <Rudolf> loa
[00:57] <Owlcarrier> oal
[00:57] <Owlcarrier> aol
[01:03] <Elfon_> ola
[02:46] <astroo-> ciao pessoal
[05:04] <henrique_> Olá
[05:05] <henrique_> Alguem pode me ajudar ?
[05:05] <henrique_> gays
[05:06] <henrique_> sexo é legal
[05:06] <henrique_> flw
[05:06] <lieber> ...
[05:06] <henrique_> porque meu backbox trava quando abro o mozilla ?
[05:07] <henrique_> ¬¬
[05:08] <henrique_> vlw
[05:11] <usucapiao> henrique, já tentou postar sua dúvida no http://askubuntu.com/ ?
[05:13] <henrique_> não
[10:22] <rdfarias> alguem online
[10:48] <Super_Ape> oi, bom dia.
[12:07] <mirqui> bom dia :)
[12:13] <rafael> bom dia
[12:19] <mirqui> blza , tudo bem :) ?
[12:21] <rafael> tudo certo
[12:21] <mirqui> blza , isso que serve :)
[12:24] <rafael> yeah, peace out
[14:53] <Fiscal> bom dia a todos!
[15:26] <CyberWorld> bom dia
[15:40] <Armando> Boa tarde.
[15:41] <Armando> Estou com a vers'ao 10.04 e gostaria de atualiza-la.
[15:41] <Armando> esta atualiza;'ao pode ser automatica ou so por CD
[15:47] <CyberWorld> é oq rapaiz
[15:47] <CyberWorld> vc quer atualizar que versao de linux e qual distribuição ?
[15:53] <Fiscal> opa!
[17:43] <ohua> caros, uma dúvida bem iniciante. eu gostaria de criar uma rede no virtualbox para estudo contendo um servidor para cada tipo de serviço como dhcp, dns, firewall, ntp, samba, impressao, tudo isso numa rede interna, e uma vpn externa. é possivel?
[17:46] <Elfon> ohua: o que sei é que se vc configurar a rede da máquina virtual como Bridge aí vc pode navegar e compartilhar pastas
[17:46] <Elfon> a máquina virtual fica com ip separado
[17:47] <ohua> obrigado Elfon, mas então é possivel DHCP, DNS e NTP dentro da rede em vms separadas apenas com o firewall na rede interna e mais bridge né?
[17:48] <Elfon> pelo que sei funciona como uma máquina independente...inclusive no roteador vc pode vê-la ao listar os pcs conectados
[18:00] <ohua> Elfon, entendi. obrigado. o que eu queria é deixar só o firewall na interna e bridge e todas as demais na interna e só a vpn em bridge.
[18:34] <mirqui> boa tarde :)
[18:40] <ad0nai> mirqui, boa!
[18:40] <mirqui> blza , tudo bem :)?
[18:46] <Vitor> Boa tarde a Todos !
[18:47] <Vitor> Alguem poderia me ajudar?
[18:48] <mirqui> fala , se der te ajudo
[18:48] <Vitor> gostaria de deixar a barra da área de trabalho superior do ubuntu transparente.
[18:57] <mirqui> opa , desculpa , precisei sair um pouco
[18:58] <mirqui> vai em configurações
[18:58] <mirqui> aparencias
[18:59] <mirqui> comportamento ,
[18:59] <mirqui> só não sei se dá para ficar transparente , mas dá para ocultar ela
[19:00] <Vitor> hun, eu tentei tambem por essa forma ai.
[19:01] <ule> alguem usa amazon RDS aqui?
[19:01] <mirqui> ule , vc pode ajudar o vitor?
[19:02] <ule> nao
[19:02] <ule> eu nao uso ubuntu como desktop.. so ubuntu server
[19:03] <ule> sorry
[19:03] <mirqui> vitor tenta o hggdh
[19:03] <mirqui> eles são mais avançados
[19:03] <mirqui> só sei por esses dois jeitos
[19:10] <Vitor> Mirqui , valeu !!!! Muito obrigado !!!!
[19:10] <mirqui> boa sorte :_
[19:10] <mirqui> :)
[19:11] <Vitor> mais sou iniciante , completamente leigo, não faço ideia do que seja isso hggdh ,,, rs
[19:11] <mirqui> é um outro user
[19:12] <mirqui> outro do chat :)
[19:13] <mirqui> vc só usa ubuntu?
[19:16] <Vitor> em casa sim
[19:17] <mirqui> o linux mint tbm é muito legal
[19:17] <Vitor> instalei tem uns 3 dias a versão mais recente.
[19:17] <mirqui> se vc quer um visual novo , dá uma olhada nele
[19:17] <Vitor> estou gostando muito !
[19:17] <mirqui> a 14.10?
[19:20] <Vitor> sim esse mesmo 64 bits
[19:21] <mirqui> eu uso a 14.04
[19:21] <mirqui> a última saiu a pouco tempo?
[19:21] <Vitor> tem muita diferença assim?
[19:21] <mirqui> quase nenhuma , tive vendo um vídeo ,
[19:21] <Vitor> essa eu instalei tem 3 dias
[19:22] <mirqui> é que por ser muito nova , pode ainda ter bugs
[19:22] <mirqui> eu sempre espero uns 3 , 4 meses depois de lançada para experimentar
[19:23] <Vitor> eu queria algo diferente no meu computador, e inovei completamente, dei uma olhada nos videos na internet e instalei o ubuntu.
[19:24] <mirqui> eu gosto muito tbm , já usei vários , preferi o ubuntu
[19:24] <mirqui> estou asando a uns 2 anos
[19:24] <mirqui> usando
[19:44] <Vitor> bom, tomara que eu não tenha problemas com bugs.
[19:45] <mirqui> acho que não , se tem é poucos
[19:46] <mirqui> eu não me acertei com a com a última versão
[19:47] <mirqui> mas agora já está mais acertada , mas prefiro ainda a 14.04
[19:47] <mirqui> ela é lts
[19:48] <Vitor> deixa eu te falar, estou sem net em casa, mais estava pensando em baixar alguns programas para o linux aqui do meu serviço, salvo em um pendrive e instalo em casa.
[19:48] <Vitor> mais para instalar eu estava vendo que é bem complicado né..
[19:49] <mirqui> ?? mais fácil que no windows
[19:49] <mirqui> tem a central de programas
[19:49] <mirqui> tem o synaptic o descobridor de muon
[19:50] <mirqui> mas qual programa vc está querendo baixar?
[19:51] <Vitor> eu gostaria de baixar um programa editor de fotos
[19:52] <mirqui> dá uma olhada na central de programas ,
[19:52] <mirqui> haaa tem o gimp , conhece?
[19:53] <mirqui> é o photoshop do mundo livre
[19:53] <Vitor> sim sim, ja ouvi falar eu nunca o utilizei mais vou querer baixar ele!
[19:54] <mirqui> eu uso o vlc tbm para mídias ,
[19:54] <Vitor> mais essa maquina aqui é windows, eu gostaria de baixar aqui para instalar em casa por pendrive.
[19:55] <mirqui> mas os programas estão na central de programas ahaha , a central de programas está dentro do ubuntu
[19:55] <mirqui> haaa vc não tem internet
[19:55] <Vitor> teria que baixa-lo com extensão .DEB certo? seria a forma mais facil de se instalar?
[19:56] <mirqui> sim , vc só da 2 cliques
[19:56] <mirqui> em casa vc tem internet?
[20:00] <Vitor> em casa estou sem internet :(
[20:01] <Vitor> isso que me quebra...
[20:01] <Vitor> pois pela central de programas é facinho.....
[20:01] <mirqui> mas o gimp tem como vc baixar pelo pendrive no seu pc de casa
[20:02] <Vitor> eu tenho que baixar daqui do meu serviço e salvar num pendrive....
[20:02] <mirqui> vc pega no site , qualquer site que disponibilize ele e instala no ubuntu
[20:02] <Vitor> ai instalo em casa
[20:02] <mirqui> sim
[20:03] <mirqui> vc quer o gimp ?
[20:03] <Vitor> me indicaria algum site para baixar programas .DEB , pois alem dele posso baixar outros tambem.
[20:04] <CyberWorld> ele vai emular o sistema ?
[20:04] <mirqui> http://www.gimp.org/downloads/
[20:04] <CyberWorld> pq a maioria das distribuições linux vem com o gimp instalado
[20:05] <mirqui> haaa , pode estar já no seu ubuntu
[20:05] <mirqui> da uma olhada na pesquisa do ubuntu ou procura programa por programa
[20:06] <CyberWorld> as que eu conheço q ja vem sao
[20:06] <CyberWorld> debian, sentos,ubuntu,xubuntu,backbox,redhat
[20:07] <Vitor> o gimp não veio instalado nele não.
[20:08] <Vitor> eu instalei ele sem conexão com internet, talvez por conta disso não deve ter instalado....
[20:08] <CyberWorld> que versao vc ta usando ?
[20:09] <Vitor> a ultima agora 14.10
[20:09] <CyberWorld> fii
[20:09] <CyberWorld> essa vem
[20:09] <CyberWorld> eu tenho ela aki
[20:09] <Vitor> estranho
[20:10] <Vitor> aki não tem , mais vou baixar ele aqui.
[20:12] <CyberWorld> mermao
[20:12] <CyberWorld> procura aew
[20:12] <CyberWorld> editor de imagem gimp
[20:22] <Vitor> kkk
[20:22] <Vitor> sério ontem eu procurei e não tinha , mais agora eu baixei quando chegar em casa eu irei instalar.
[20:23] <Vitor> e para jogos , saberia me indicar alguns sites que tenha jogos com extensão . DEB p download?
[20:27] <CyberWorld> cara
[20:27] <CyberWorld> faz o seguinte
[20:29] <CyberWorld> tem um aplicativo ai no Ubuntu q ele faz download direto
[20:29] <CyberWorld> e ele mostra todos os aplicativos disponiveis pro
[20:29] <CyberWorld> linux
[20:29] <CyberWorld> alguns poderão ser pagos mais a maioria é freeuser
[20:30] <Vitor> entendi, mas é que essa maquina que estou é windows.
[20:30] <CyberWorld> vc ta emulando o linux nela ?
[20:31] <Vitor> não, eu gostaria de baixar os programas nessa maquina que é do meu serviço, para instalar em casa.
[20:31] <Vitor> a net aqui é melhor.
[20:31] <Vitor> net de casa é muito lenta..
[20:32] <Vitor> demora muito, ai haja paciência... rsrs
[20:34] <CyberWorld> na sua casa vc usa linux ou windows dai vc emula o linux
[20:34] <CyberWorld> pq se for linux direto
[20:34] <CyberWorld> tem um procedimento q vc pode copiar os arquivos de um linux pro outro
[20:35] <Vitor> la em casa só linux !
[20:35] <Vitor> no meu serviço é Windows..
[20:36] <CyberWorld> o canal era vc emular o sistema na maquina do seu seviço
[20:36] <CyberWorld> fazer a atualização
[20:36] <CyberWorld> copiar os arquivos atualizados
[20:36] <CyberWorld> e instalar na sua maquina pelo pen drive
[20:36] <CyberWorld> mais ai tu tinha que ter conhecimentos avançado em linux
[20:36] <CyberWorld> pq vc tem q seguir uma serie de comando
[20:37] <Vitor> hun.... :(
[20:38] <CyberWorld> tem um site q eles disponibilizam o download do pack de atualização do linux
[20:38] <CyberWorld> mais agora n lembro qual é
[20:54] <astroo-> ola pessoal
[20:56] <Vitor> Olá !!
[20:56] <astroo-> ola
[20:57] <Vitor> tava sumido !
[20:58] <astroo-> eu nao...
[22:10] <licensed> alguem conhece algum aplicativo pra ripar streaming de audio? tipo do itunes
[22:22] <Rudolf> http://streamripper.sourceforge.net
[23:31] <williamCLown> Boa noite
[23:32] <williamCLown> sou novato no sistema operacional, estou a uma semana pesquisando e testando possibilidades
[23:32] <williamCLown> para rodar jogos perfeitamente
[23:32] <williamCLown> mas ao rodar jogos parece que wine nao reconhece que tenho placa de video e o fps cai drasticamente
[23:33] <astroo-> ola
[23:33] <astroo-> nao existe milagres no linux em jogos
[23:33] <astroo-> que placa e?
[23:33] <williamCLown> sinceramente não quero desisntalar o linux e apenas achar uma maneira para rodar os jogos, ontem comprei o gta v e nao consegui jogar ainda
[23:33] <williamCLown> gtx 550 ti
[23:34] <williamCLown> i3
[23:34] <williamCLown> 8 gb de memoria e 1 tb de hd
[23:34] <astroo-> podes usar dual boot
[23:35] <williamCLown> putz, eu nao queria voltar para windows
[23:39] <Rudolf> kkkkkkkkk
[23:39] <Rudolf> williamCLown: volte para windows
[23:39] <Rudolf> williamCLown: e ponto
[23:39] <Rudolf> williamCLown: estes jogos para windows não rodam no linux
[23:39] <Rudolf> williamCLown: esqueça
[23:39] <Rudolf> williamCLown: finito
[23:39] <Rudolf> williamCLown: pare de perder tempo com wine
[23:40] <Rudolf> williamCLown: alguns poucos jogos rodam no linux melhor que no windows
[23:40] <Rudolf> williamCLown: e sem wine
[23:40] <Rudolf> williamCLown: como Unreal Tournament 2004
[23:40] <Rudolf> williamCLown: JOGÂO
[23:40] <Rudolf> williamCLown: mas é exceção, e ficou no passado
[23:42] <williamCLown> bom, então partiu windows entao
[23:43] <williamCLown> obrigado pessoal
[23:44] <astroo-> ok
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2024-05-13T22:11:13.040140
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2015-04-15-#ubuntu-rs
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[14:10] <cvetan> sta nam je opet sa forumom? :(
[18:03] <cvetan> sta nije u redu sa forumom? malo malo pa puca. :(
[18:21] <Kostic> Провајдер користи лош софтвер за виртуелизацију те испашта ВМ где је форум, ако се ја добро сећам.
[18:29] <Atlantic777> nekad je i do nas, ali kažu ljudi da ovaj put nije :)
[18:51] <cvetan> bas je ucestalo. mislim da je za ovaj kratak period forum imao vise padova nego od kad sam se ja registrovao. :)
[18:52] <cvetan> evo sad radi.
[18:52] <cvetan> :)
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ubuntu-chat
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2024-05-13T22:11:13.045740
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2015-04-15-#ubuntu-locoteams
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[05:01] <Kilos> hi there nhaines and all others
[05:16] <nhaines> Good morning, Kilos. :)
[05:16] <Kilos> :)
[05:25] <Kilos> hi dpm :)
[05:26] <dpm> hi Kilos
[08:29] <Kilos> hi toddy
[08:30] <toddy> hi Kilos
[13:24] <Kilos> hi dholbach :)
[13:25] <dholbach> hey Kilos
[14:59] <MoMohamed> salut
[14:59] <elacheche> salut MoMohamed
[15:00] <MoMohamed> je suis noivice dans ubuntu, mais je me demande si ubuntu a fait ces preuves en entreprise
[15:00] <MoMohamed> car j'envisage de mmigrer vers ubuntu server
[15:02] <MoMohamed> Est ce qu'il ya un support ubutu
[15:02] <MoMohamed> ubuntu
[15:03] <elacheche> MoMohamed, we need to o
[15:04] <elacheche> move on to #ubuntu or #ubutnu-tn this is a channel for loco teams topics
[15:04] <MoMohamed> OK
[15:04] <MoMohamed> tank's
[15:04] <elacheche> On doit discuter dans un autre chaine irc MoMohamed.. Tu viens vers #ubuntu ou ubuntu-tn
[15:11] <genii> tn is what, Tunisia?
[15:16] <elacheche> yep genii, I thought he's tunisian :) googling he's IP he's from moroco
[15:16] <genii> Ah
[15:17] <elacheche> genii, Arabic name and uses French, can be just from tn, ma, or dz :)
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ubuntu-chat
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2024-05-13T22:11:13.048045
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2015-04-15-#ubuntu-desktop
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[04:17] <tjaalton> what's up with bluez 5, why hasn't it made it in the distro yet?
[04:18] <tjaalton> I know it has been discussed somewhere, just can't remember where..
[04:20] <tjaalton> ah, 1162781
[06:01] <didrocks> good morning
[06:29] <larsu> good morning!
[07:14] <willcooke> o/
[07:17] <didrocks> morning willcooke
[07:18] <willcooke> 65 Mbps this morning \o/
[07:19] <willcooke> Hopefully it will be more stable today, but we shall see....
[07:19] <willcooke> and then on Friday I've got my second line getting upgraded too
[07:24] <didrocks> why do you have 2 lines, isn't one fiber enough ?
[07:29] <willcooke> it was too slow in the olden days
[07:29] <willcooke> plus I wanted a back up
[07:30] <willcooke> it's not much more cost, maybe 20 quid a month
[07:30] <willcooke> so I think I'll keep it for now
[07:30] <didrocks> oh waow, indeed, quite cheap
[07:31] <didrocks> what site are you using to measure your connexion speed btw? Most of ISP are usually "optimizing" path to speednet and such
[07:31] <willcooke> http://speedof.me/
[07:32] <didrocks> interesting, didn't know that one
[07:38] <seb128> hey didrocks, willcook, desktopers
[07:38] <didrocks> 281Mbps in download and 450Mbs in upload
[07:38] <didrocks> re seb128
[07:38] <seb128> didrocks, did you close IRC to optimize benchmarks? ;-)
[07:38] <seb128> "let's not waste those 15 bytes/s" :p
[07:39] <didrocks> seb128: no, I switched to rj45 instead of wifi
[07:39] <didrocks> and seems we don't handle that well for opened apps…
[07:39] <seb128> ah, ip change :-)
[07:39] <seb128> well "we" being the tcp protocol I guess
[07:39] <didrocks> seb128: it's the same public ip though
[07:39] <didrocks> a port change yeah
[07:40] <didrocks> IIRC there is a protocol for the router to define this switch
[08:05] <Laney> yo
[08:06] <willcooke> morning Laney
[08:07] <seb128> hey Laney, how are you?
[08:10] <Laney> howdy willcooke et seb128
[08:10] <Laney> doing good!
[08:12] * Laney opens the window, a sure sign of a nice day
[08:12] <Laney> you?
[08:12] <seb128> same here :-)
[08:12] <seb128> feels like summer!
[08:24] * larsu waves to Laney and willcooke
[08:24] <larsu> sun is here now as well
[08:25] <darkxst> hey seb128 Laney larsu
[08:25] <seb128> hey darkxst
[08:25] <darkxst> how can it be summer in bother hemispheres?
[08:26] <larsu> "morning" darkxst
[08:26] <darkxst> oh and hey didrocks!
[08:27] <darkxst> larsu, its "evening" here! only didrocks seems to have worked that out though ;)
[08:29] <larsu> darkxst: I know, that's why I put the quotes ;)
[08:29] <Laney> greetings
[08:31] <larsu> Laney: just a heads up, we'll need another gtk upload this week. mclasen hasn't made up his mind yesterday though. I'll annoy him again today
[08:32] <larsu> this is about horizontal scrolling being broken as of 3.14.12
[08:32] <Laney> i saw that bug
[08:32] <Laney> might have to go to sru, we'll see
[08:32] <larsu> :(
[08:33] <Laney> want to take https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gtk+3.0/+bug/1444174 upstream?
[08:34] <larsu> sure
[08:34] <Laney> thx
[08:34] <larsu> weird patch...
[08:37] <Laney> that variable should be called something like need_gio_unix
[08:37] <larsu> that, or a dependency on gio-unix-2.0 should be declared somewhere
[08:43] <larsu> I can't compile at all with those configure options. "No GDK backends selected"
[08:43] <larsu> oh wait. Missed a call to autogen.sh
[08:45] <larsu> mir only landed in the 3.16 cycle? Interesting...
[08:45] <Laney> we have this huge patch to backport it all
[08:46] <larsu> hm, added on May 20 2014
[08:46] <larsu> that's before 3.14, no?
[08:46] <larsu> apparently not :)
[08:50] <larsu> I get a different error though. Is the mir client library api stable?
[08:51] <larsu> too many arguments to function 'mir_surface_set_event_handler'
[08:53] <larsu> mir-backend-unmerged.patch?
[08:54] <Laney> time to give it to attente ...
[08:55] <larsu> even mir-backend.patch looks different from what is in gtk master
[08:55] <larsu> *sigh*
[09:17] <seb128> larsu, bug #1443774 is the gtk issue you were discussing yesterday right? do we have another bug we already use for the issue?
[09:17] <seb128> to dup that one
[09:29] <larsu> seb128: not that I'm aware of. It's the one bregma linked to yesterday as well
[09:29] <larsu> seb128: the commit that breaks stuff is due to this upstream bug: https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=737175
[09:29] <seb128> k
[09:29] <larsu> which I can't reproduce
[09:29] <seb128> larsu, I reassigned to gtk/assigned to you, feel free to unassign if that's incorrect
[09:29] <larsu> but I guess this is where the confusion comes from
[09:29] <larsu> seb128: that's good. I plan on nagging mclasen about it again today
[09:30] <seb128> thanks
[09:30] <larsu> or do you prefer a downstream patch for the release?
[10:39] <seb128> tkamppeter, hey, what's the status of https://code.launchpad.net/~philpem/ubuntu/utopic/ptouch-driver/fix-for-1342979/+merge/255190 ? still wanting to do an upload for vivid?
[10:51] <attente> larsu, Laney: https://git.gnome.org/browse/gtk+/commit/?id=61f3399f980288a9a9e4b03b50dd147a8af55a8d and http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~mir-team/mir/development-branch/revision/2442/include/client/mir_toolkit/mir_surface.h?
[11:07] <larsu> attente: I have the same problem on master
[11:07] <larsu> attente: oh, I need the mir fix as well?
[11:07] <attente> larsu: yeah, i was building against the trunk of mir
[11:07] <attente> there was an api change at revision 2442
[11:07] <larsu> this is the saddest statement I've read all week :(
[11:09] <attente> larsu: http://thenicestplaceontheinter.net/
[11:10] <larsu> hehe :)
[11:10] <attente> larsu: maybe just revert 61f3399f980288a9a9e4b03b50dd147a8af55a8d to get it working with stable mir
[11:14] <larsu> attente: good idea. let's see if I hit the same compile error to reproduce that bug
[11:15] <larsu> indeed. awesome, thanks.
[11:29] <larsu> attente: can we just push mir-related changes or should I go through bz as well?
[11:56] <tkamppeter> seb128, the first patch he offered was not a complete fix and then he came with a lot of patches. So the full change is of large impact, but as it concerns only the support for Brother label printers and cannot break anything in the system, like general printing or support for other printers, I could even have a look and try to get it uploaded today.
[12:00] <attente> larsu: i think we have free reign to push as long as we only touch gdk/mir
[12:01] <larsu> attente: ah, this touches configure.ac though
[12:02] <attente> larsu: what's the change?
[12:02] <larsu> attente: https://launchpadlibrarian.net/203284535/fix-1444174.patch
[12:02] <larsu> I think I'll just push it
[12:02] <larsu> it's insanely simple
[12:02] * larsu makes tea before
[12:03] <Laney> good idea
[12:03] <Laney> it's a big event
[12:03] <attente> oh, right, that's duflu's patch
[12:03] <larsu> Laney: indeed. Gotta be prepared
[13:08] <seb128> tkamppeter, thanks
[13:11] <willcooke> Laney, msm says that pub is a goodun
[13:13] <didrocks> compiz crash
[13:13] <willcooke> seb128, dgadomski is coming to the sprint \o/
[13:13] <didrocks> and now, no media keys after session restart
[13:13] * didrocks unlogs and relogs
[13:14] <seb128> willcooke, oh, good news, thanks for that!
[13:15] <willcooke> nw
[13:15] <Laney> willcooke: woot
[13:15] <larsu> didrocks: this happens to me after a dist-upgrade sometimes (but goes away after a relogin)
[13:16] <Laney> camra know what they're talking about
[13:16] <didrocks> larsu: didn't dist-upgrade today
[13:16] <didrocks> larsu: the no media keys is there for a while, it's a race apparently
[13:16] <larsu> another reason for not allowing upgrades in a session
[13:16] <larsu> oh, interesting
[13:16] <didrocks> yeah, so not linked to upgrade in all cases
[13:25] <seb128> yeah, I sometime get the no multimedia keys and it's not an update thing
[13:42] <pitti> Good morning
[13:43] <larsu> morning pitti! How's the sprint going?
[13:43] <pitti> larsu: fast! :-)
[13:44] <pitti> larsu: mopping up quite a bit of test/boot/ddebs stuff, going well!
[13:44] <larsu> nice!
[13:45] <seb128> hey pitti, wie gehts?
[13:48] <pitti> seb128: hey Seb, gut, danke!
[13:48] <pitti> hectic as usual on a sprint
[13:48] <seb128> I can imagine
[13:59] <willcooke> ETOOHOT
[14:00] <seb128> indeed!
[14:00] <Laney> it's only 15 here
[14:00] <Laney> london apparently is 25
[14:00] <larsu> wait, already we complain about heat?
[14:00] <Laney> welcome to the UK
[14:00] <larsu> let's wait a few weeks please between ETOOCOLD and ETOOHOT
[14:01] <willcooke> My thermostat says it's 27
[14:01] <seb128> today is no-pants-day!
[14:01] <willcooke> Ahh, working from home
[14:02] <seb128> :-)
[14:02] <Laney> dear lord
[14:03] <willcooke> http://imgur.com/wOn9Kkh
[14:08] <seb128> lol
[14:08] <seb128> I was pondering opening that image or not
[14:09] <seb128> some things can't be unseen :p
[14:09] <Laney> it's pretty extreme
[14:14] <willcooke> I've got lots more like that, I'll be happy to share ;)
[14:15] <Laney> you should have it constantly updating
[18:13] <tkamppeter> seb128, I have uploaded a new ptouch-driver package to Vivid now containing all changes from Phil Pemberton. It is a larger patch but it only affects Brother laser printers, no regression risk for anything else.
[20:24] <sarnold> desrt, qengho, http://spaceflightnow.com/2015/04/15/new-longer-video-shows-falcon-demise/
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2024-05-13T22:11:13.063813
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2015-04-15-#xubuntu-devel
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[06:40] <elfy> cyphermox: been unable to check for a day or two, unfortunately now I have, reboot works in hardware and kvm, guess where it failed :(
[07:03] <ochosi> morning
[07:03] <ochosi> elfy: where?
[07:03] <elfy> hi ochosi :)
[07:03] <elfy> fails to reboot after installing, just sits there waiting for the next Ice Age I think
[07:04] <elfy> just checking 32bit on vbox
[07:04] <elfy> vbox really is a pita seemingly
[07:05] <ochosi> oh, that again
[07:05] <elfy> yep
[07:10] <elfy> cyphermox: so 64bit vbox, exits desktop then hangs, 32bit ends like this http://i.imgur.com/nztUBKK.png
[13:29] <cyphermox> elfy: ok, yeah that looks broken
[15:05] <cyphermox> ochosi: your ubiquity-dm fix doesn't seem to work for me; have you tested it in ubiquity-dm itself?
[18:14] <pleia2> elfy: social mediaed the expectation for RC landing on Friday
[18:14] <pleia2> err, proposed RC
[18:14] <elfy> pleia2: awesome sauce - thanks pleia2 :)
[18:14] <pleia2> like this: https://twitter.com/Xubuntu/status/588404831473299456
[18:14] <pleia2> :)
[18:14] <elfy> posting to -testers works for you then :D
[18:14] <pleia2> it does!
[18:15] <pleia2> lands in my inbox, -dev does not
[18:15] <elfy> pleia2: nice tweet - thanks :)
[18:15] <elfy> yep - no reason to not carry on doing that at all, though if I do then I'll just CC you instead :D
[18:15] <pleia2> :)
[18:17] <pleia2> ok, back to conferencing
[18:18] <elfy> cya :D
[19:37] * pleia2 shares default app decisions (and apologizes for failure to formally vote)
[19:37] <Unit193> Danke.
[19:49] <ochosi> no worries pleia2
[19:50] <ochosi> had your sort-of vote affected the final outcome i would have reconsidered
[19:50] <ochosi> but as it is, it was no biggie
[19:50] <ochosi> and thanks for social-media-ing
[19:50] <pleia2> woo, already got one sad-gimp note
[19:50] <ochosi> :)
[20:17] <Unit193> Back with the raring cycle or so I was tasked with tracking the progress of libdvdcss, well it's now made it into Debian NEW: https://ftp-master.debian.org/new/libdvd-pkg_1.3.0-1-1.html
[20:19] <knome> mm
[20:20] <knome> up in the 15.10 queue then!
[20:20] <Unit193> It was tracked for xubuntu-restricted-*
[20:20] <knome> yep
[20:21] <knome> i acknowledge
[20:21] <knome> won't make it into 15.04 repositories though.
[20:21] <Unit193> Hah, no, of course not.
[20:22] <Unit193> OK, I'm done with my quantal/raring tasks now.
[20:34] <knome> laaaate.
[20:45] <slickymaster> !team ! Meeting in 15 minutes
[20:45] <slickymaster> bah silly bot
[20:46] <slickymaster> !team | Meeting in 15 minutes
[20:48] <krytarik> slickymaster: "keycode 10 = exclam 1 exclam 1 bar exclamdown bar exclamdown" :P
[20:48] <krytarik> Rarely used it ever since though.
[20:56] <elfy> balloons: ping if you're still showing up
[20:57] <ochosi> cyphermox: i forgot to add a note to that bugreport stating that my patch doesn't fully work. it does hide the desktop icons, but persistently, i.e. in the live session too (where we actually want them to show up). since it was late in the cycle and it's more of an aesthetic than a really critical issue we decided to ignore it and fix it in 15.10 by using feh to draw the background
[20:58] <ochosi> cyphermox: that change (switch to feh) seemed to risky and last-minute just to fix those icons showing up
[20:58] <cyphermox> well, not really
[20:58] <cyphermox> ubiquity-dm doesn't get used for the live-session
[20:58] <cyphermox> do you rather mean that it breaks the installed system?
[20:59] <cyphermox> but if you're fine with just ignoring it and fixing things in 15.10, I'm fine with that too
[21:00] <ochosi> no, xfdesktop uses xfconf to store/load its settings, and that's what is persistent
[21:01] <slickymaster> !team | meeting time!
[21:01] <slickymaster> #startmeeting
[21:01] <meetingology> Meeting started Wed Apr 15 21:01:14 2015 UTC. The chair is slickymaster. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology.
[21:01] <meetingology> Available commands: action commands idea info link nick
[21:01] <slickymaster> Who's here for the meeting?
[21:01] <elfy> yup
[21:02] <micahg> o/
[21:02] <slickymaster> hey micahg elfy
[21:02] <ochosi> o/
[21:03] <slickymaster> well, knome will be joining us in a moment
[21:03] <slickymaster> so I think we can start
[21:03] <slickymaster> #topic Open action items
[21:04] <slickymaster> Unit193 to tie up with elfy for xubuntu-core upgrade testing needs
[21:04] <slickymaster> elfy, the floor is yours
[21:04] <elfy> that was long done
[21:04] <elfy> shouldn't be an open item
[21:04] <slickymaster> bah, it's still showing up in https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Xubuntu/Meetings
[21:05] <elfy> mmm
[21:05] <slickymaster> I'm assuming that the other two would also be done, then
[21:05] <elfy> the game one is
[21:05] <slickymaster> ok, moving on then
[21:05] <slickymaster> #topic Team updates
[21:05] <elfy> the knome is tying up ochosi
[21:06] <elfy> no-one remembers what that even is
[21:06] <ochosi> i think we did that now
[21:06] <ochosi> the only thing left would be the games discussion
[21:06] <slickymaster> elfy, said that's done ochosi
[21:06] <ochosi> yeah, i'm not keen on having that anyway ;)
[21:06] <elfy> I put it on the agenda - it got removed
[21:07] <elfy> bah
[21:07] <elfy> that sounds wrong lol
[21:07] <elfy> it got removed because 15.10 :)
[21:07] <balloons> ohh my
[21:07] <slickymaster> hey balloons, be welcome
[21:08] <ochosi> i have few to no updates
[21:08] * balloons waves
[21:08] <elfy> same
[21:08] <slickymaster> nothing from me also
[21:08] <slickymaster> micahg, anything?
[21:08] <pleia2> o/
[21:08] <ochosi> #info the hacky patch from bug #1437180 won't get shipped in 15.04, the bug will remain as it is and we will have to resolve it in 15.10
[21:09] <micahg> no updates
[21:09] <pleia2> #info we'll be sharing on social media soon, but here first - polos and sweaters! https://www.hellotux.com/xubuntu
[21:10] <slickymaster> great pleia2
[21:10] <ochosi> #info Gimp, Abiword and Gnumeric will be dropped for 15.10, LibreOffice (or parts of it) will be installed by default (result of the team vote from last week)
[21:10] <slickymaster> anything else?
[21:10] <Unit193> That was for/from last meeting, not this one? :P
[21:10] <slickymaster> bah, too late Unit193 :P
[21:10] <knome> i'm here
[21:10] <slickymaster> ;)
[21:10] <ochosi> Unit193: yeah, whatever ;)
[21:10] <knome> what am i tying?
[21:11] <ochosi> knome: some action item nobody knows about anymore
[21:11] <knome> hah.
[21:11] <ochosi> "knome to follow up with ochosi on setting up a team vote - or allowing more time for discussion"
[21:11] <knome> it's the XSD stuff
[21:11] <slickymaster> yeaps
[21:11] <ochosi> oh ok
[21:11] <knome> so we should probably just boot up the vote
[21:12] <slickymaster> knome, any updates from you?
[21:12] <knome> not really
[21:12] <slickymaster> moving on, then
[21:12] <slickymaster> #topic Announcements
[21:13] <elfy> you can announce I'd really like to see people testing
[21:13] <slickymaster> go ahead elfy
[21:14] <knome> elfy, i'll do at least one upgrade test on hardware with real data
[21:14] <elfy> ty
[21:14] <slickymaster> ftr: https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/xubuntu-devel/2015-April/010712.html
[21:15] <slickymaster> no other announcements?
[21:15] <ochosi> not from my sie
[21:15] <ochosi> side
[21:15] <knome> not announcements really
[21:15] <slickymaster> #topic Discussion
[21:16] <slickymaster> #subtopic Rebooting the FAQ articles
[21:16] <slickymaster> #link https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/xubuntu-devel/2015-April/010697.html
[21:16] <slickymaster> knome?
[21:16] <knome> this is my item, but i'd really just want discussion on it.
[21:16] <slickymaster> this one is yours
[21:16] <elfy> not much discussion happened there
[21:17] <knome> nope...
[21:17] <slickymaster> I just become aware of it with the email on m7l
[21:17] <slickymaster> * m/l
[21:17] <ochosi> i like the idea/s, but i don't think i'll have time to really contribute
[21:17] <knome> slickymaster, yeah, that was when i first wrote a public message on it
[21:17] <knome> it's 8 days ago though, so i expected some feedback
[21:18] <ochosi> wouldn't that be one way to get some new folks on board?
[21:18] <knome> but maybe everybody just wanted to say they want LibreOffice in in the mailing list
[21:18] <ochosi> :)
[21:18] <knome> ochosi, absolutely.
[21:18] <ochosi> maybe some folks on the forums that have already written tutorials..?
[21:18] * ochosi doesn't read any forums anymore
[21:18] <elfy> knome: or perhaps no-one is that interested
[21:19] <knome> elfy, which is what i snarkily tried to imply:P
[21:19] <Unit193> Or everyone thinks it's a good idea, so no objections.
[21:19] * elfy is well used to mails to the list being ignored
[21:19] <slickymaster> my impression knome was that your email was addressed more to the community than to the team
[21:19] <slickymaster> am I reading it wrong?
[21:19] <knome> isn't the team part of the community?
[21:19] <knome> it was pretty much directed at everybody
[21:20] <elfy> knome: I'll be able to find some time for that
[21:20] <knome> so let's just move on, and hope that slickymaster replies on the thread and it picks some wind
[21:20] <slickymaster> me too
[21:20] <knome> elfy, great
[21:20] <knome> elfy, i think there might be some parts that might overlap with the new slideshow project here
[21:20] <knome> elfy, so let's keep an eye open for that
[21:20] <elfy> was thinking similar tbh
[21:21] <knome> so anyway, move on slickymaster
[21:21] <slickymaster> we could have a sprint on that knome
[21:21] <knome> sure
[21:21] <elfy> slickymaster: mmm
[21:21] <slickymaster> what elfy?
[21:21] <elfy> they generally end up being 2 or 3 people
[21:21] <knome> let's try to get some lurkers from the ml to join us
[21:21] <elfy> hardly worth calling it a sprint imo
[21:22] <knome> elfy, that's exactly what i would call it :)
[21:22] <elfy> you might, I'd call it a dawdle
[21:22] <knome> ;)
[21:22] <slickymaster> we did one of those for the installer slideshoe, the three of us and it worked elfy
[21:22] <knome> #nick xubuntu-docs
[21:22] <knome> #action xubuntu-docs to throw the ball around about the FAQ articles
[21:22] <meetingology> ACTION: xubuntu-docs to throw the ball around about the FAQ articles
[21:23] <elfy> slickymaster: just a matter of noun - not important :)
[21:23] <slickymaster> yeaps
[21:23] <slickymaster> oving then
[21:23] <slickymaster> m
[21:23] <slickymaster> #subtopic Xubuntu session in Ubuntu Online Summit on May 5-7
[21:23] <knome> balloons, ping!
[21:23] <slickymaster> also yours knome, I believe
[21:24] <knome> yes and no.
[21:24] <knome> let me dig stuff up
[21:24] <balloons> I'm here :-)
[21:24] <elfy> could me mine too
[21:24] <slickymaster> do you want to start elfy?
[21:24] <elfy> but let's let balloons talk
[21:24] <slickymaster> balloons, the floor is yours
[21:24] <knome> balloons, while you do it, i'll approve your message to the list...
[21:24] <balloons> ahh brillant. So I trust you saw the email to the list ... Oh, tehe
[21:25] <slickymaster> so balloons, on the Xubuntu session in Ubuntu Online Summit on May 5-7 item
[21:25] <knome> https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/xubuntu-devel/2015-April/010715.html
[21:25] <knome> ^ there we go
[21:25] <balloons> I'll recap quickly however. I am inquiring to see if someone wishes to run a session or session advocating xubuntu at UOS
[21:25] * micahg misses UDS
[21:26] * knome passes micahg the sherlock hat
[21:26] * slickymaster never attended one tbh
[21:26] <balloons> My proposal was to have either a planning session, an open FAQ/community session, or even simply just hosting a 'show and tell' session or two showcasing xubuntu
[21:27] <knome> i can help plan and prepare for the sessions if somebody needs that support, but i'm not around on those days, so can't run one.
[21:27] <balloons> I think having a presence would be useful to you and would certainly be welcomed by the rest of the community. It would be nice to get some quick updates about what is happening in each flavor
[21:28] <slickymaster> it won't be easy for me, working hours and you all know the lousy connectivity I have at work
[21:28] <ochosi> yeah, sorry same for me (just checked my calendar), won't be around that day
[21:28] <knome> ochosi, it's three days
[21:29] <balloons> indeed, 3 days with your choice of timeslots..
[21:29] <ochosi> yeah, sry, my eyes are tired :/
[21:29] <pleia2> unfortunately I can't make the time either
[21:29] <balloons> now, it needn't be someone in the meeting at the moment even, if perhaps others might be willing to step up and host something. It really doesn't require much more than showing up
[21:29] <balloons> we've tried to make it easy :-)
[21:30] <knome> what i proposed earlier when this was originall brought up in the quality channel was a Q&A session, which would have very little overhead. just turn up and know the right answers ;)
[21:30] <balloons> The information should be in the mail, and you needn't decide right now of course. I'll be around as usual if you have questions, or need help. I hope to see something, but I understand the world is a big place and timezones suck sometimes :-)
[21:31] <knome> and yeah, Unit193 and krytarik are good to go too.
[21:32] <slickymaster> I will try to make the Q&A session
[21:32] <slickymaster> it will mostly depend at what time it will occour
[21:33] <slickymaster> is there any schedule yet?
[21:33] <elfy> we need to decide if we're going to do something, then what, then who - then time it accordingly
[21:33] <balloons> the schedule can be seen here: http://summit.ubuntu.com/uos-1505/
[21:33] <slickymaster> thanks balloons
[21:33] <elfy> effectively the last slot is 20:00 UTC
[21:33] <balloons> We try and send something out a couple weeks in advance, so you have a week or so to nail things down
[21:33] <balloons> we won't turn you away last minute should it come to it, but :-0
[21:34] <knome> :P
[21:35] <elfy> you can generally do these things with more than one person obviously
[21:35] <knome> yep
[21:36] <slickymaster> any volunteers?
[21:37] <elfy> http://i.imgur.com/WybNkNw.gif?1
[21:37] <slickymaster> balloons, when is your deadline to have the confirmations?
[21:38] <elfy> perhaps we can discuss on list, see if we can get a *user* involved in it
[21:38] <slickymaster> yes, will you make the call for that in the m/l elfy?
[21:38] <balloons> slickymaster, ideally by end of next week I think
[21:39] <elfy> if it is the last session I could possibly be about, but there's no way I'm running on my own
[21:39] <elfy> balloons: mmm - holy timing batman
[21:39] <balloons> just after release, haha!
[21:39] <balloons> really though, whenever, as long as it's before May 5th :-)
[21:39] <elfy> we're a small team and most of next week we'll be running about on that :(
[21:40] <slickymaster> the idea balloons, is run a call on our m/l and see if we manage to get some/a user(s) to get himself involved
[21:41] <balloons> slickymaster, yes that would be ideal I think
[21:41] <elfy> thinking about it - a Q&A is going to be people asking how to deal with light locking ...
[21:41] <balloons> perhaps even pair up
[21:41] <slickymaster> yes
[21:41] <elfy> 2 works, balloons helped me when I did some QA thing once
[21:42] <knome> 1 works, but it's not nice.
[21:42] <elfy> yep
[21:42] <balloons> yes.. 1 is like talking to yourself.. 3 or 4 is amazing and 2 is nice
[21:42] <knome> btw, should we move on?
[21:42] <elfy> imo 3 would be the thing to aim at, 2 rabbiting, one backstage
[21:42] <slickymaster> right
[21:43] <elfy> knome: yep
[21:43] <knome> this discussion tastes stale
[21:43] <knome> i even browsed the web during it :P
[21:43] <slickymaster> there are no other items on the agenda, so I think that's it for this meeting
[21:43] <knome> no
[21:43] <knome> i have other things to discuss :P
[21:44] <slickymaster> shoot knome
[21:44] <elfy> now?
[21:44] <elfy> or later :p
[21:44] * pleia2 hands elfy a blaster
[21:44] <knome> please #topic Other discussions or sth
[21:44] <micahg> we should just announce freezes
[21:44] <knome> it has to be now
[21:44] <slickymaster> #topic Other discussions
[21:44] <knome> thanks
[21:44] <knome> so basically,
[21:45] <knome> version 96 of the installer slideshow was released first of april.
[21:46] <knome> after that, some strings were changed for xubuntu
[21:46] <knome> since the translations are handled via the upstream package, and there hasn't been any new release after that, the strings aren't translatable
[21:46] <knome> this is OK as long as there will be no more ubiquity slideshow releases before the release
[21:47] <ochosi> oh, so we're hoping no other team will want a release?
[21:47] <knome> which looks unlikely, since there has been some changes since that which i believe people want in
[21:47] <ochosi> can't we just revert the changes - or are they badly needed?
[21:47] <knome> so at this point, i'd actually propose to revert the change.
[21:48] <knome> this way if there is a new upload, we're good
[21:48] <ochosi> what change is it specifically? or: what do we lose by reverting?
[21:48] <knome> let me dig that up
[21:48] <knome> it's not huge
[21:49] <knome> http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~ubiquity-slideshow/ubiquity-slideshow-ubuntu/html/revision/677
[21:49] <knome> (and tbe, this was before v96, but the translation templates weren't updated for that version...)
[21:50] <ochosi> right
[21:50] <ochosi> hmm
[21:50] <knome> it's an improvement, but not something that is worth the risk of breaking those two strings for all languages
[21:50] <ochosi> i agree
[21:50] <slickymaster> me tto
[21:50] <slickymaster> sighs
[21:50] <slickymaster> me too
[21:51] <knome> i'll revert this change tonight then
[21:51] <elfy> yep - ack that too
[21:51] <ochosi> thanks for handling that, knome
[21:51] <knome> np
[21:51] <slickymaster> yes, thanks
[21:51] <slickymaster> is that all?
[21:51] <elfy> one last thing after that
[21:51] <slickymaster> go ahead elfy
[21:51] <elfy> we need to deal with 12.04 going EOL a few days after 15.04 release
[21:52] * micahg has one last thing as well
[21:52] <knome> i should be around for the rotating of the website
[21:52] * ochosi thought EOL actually meant *not* having to deal with it anymore..
[21:52] * slickymaster too
[21:52] <elfy> how we going to deal with that? blog post and social media and a mail to Fridge or something?
[21:52] <ochosi> i think a brief blog post would be good
[21:52] <ochosi> plus social media
[21:52] <knome> yes
[21:53] <slickymaster> Ĩ can take of the wiki occurences
[21:53] <ochosi> fridge is an option too
[21:53] <knome> and rotate all outlets with information that talks about 12.04
[21:53] <slickymaster> * occurrences
[21:53] <knome> we can probably get reposted to fridge
[21:53] <knome> pleia2, or?
[21:53] <elfy> ochosi: I think probably Fridge needs to be done tbh
[21:53] <elfy> anyone can mail that
[21:53] <ochosi> k
[21:53] <pleia2> are we the only one going EOL?
[21:54] <knome> no
[21:54] <slickymaster> micahg, you also have an item, right?
[21:54] <micahg> ye
[21:55] <knome> pleia2, at least studio too
[21:55] <knome> pleia2, that might be it though.
[21:56] <elfy> lubuntu was 18 months
[21:56] <micahg> #info Final Freeze tomorrow, Apr 16 at 21:00 UTC
[21:56] <pleia2> knome: I think this is a first for the community, so I'm just wondering if we could collaborate with others going EoL to propose an announcement for fridge
[21:56] <knome> zequence, ping
[21:56] <micahg> #info any last fixes that aren't RC for Xubuntu need to be in by then (preferably all the RC fixes as well)
[21:57] <micahg> knome: he disappeared for the night
[21:57] <knome> he'll get back to it :)
[21:57] <knome> pleia2, sounds like a plan
[21:57] <micahg> #info final freeze for unseeded packages is sometime next Tuesday, anything that's not on any images can still get bugfixes until then
[21:57] <knome> anybody WANTS to draft that announcement?
[21:58] <elfy> action me for it
[21:58] <knome> #action elfy to draft an EOL announcement (with other flavors)
[21:58] <meetingology> ACTION: elfy to draft an EOL announcement (with other flavors)
[21:58] <knome> elfy, thanks - don't hesitate to ask me for help
[21:58] <micahg> oh, I'll do one last upload of xubuntu default settings since Launchpad has been kind enough to deposit translations there
[21:58] <zequence> knome: pong
[21:59] <knome> zequence, see the last ~20 lines
[21:59] <knome> well i guess 30-40ish
[21:59] <zequence> We
[21:59] <knome> You
[21:59] <slickymaster> great micahg, thanks
[21:59] <zequence> Sorry. We've had a 5 year plan, but I guess we'll go EOL with you guys
[22:00] <slickymaster> does anyone else still have anything to discuss?
[22:00] <elfy> nope
[22:00] <knome> zequence, i think i overtalked you to 3 years 3 years ago :)
[22:00] <knome> zequence, at least your release notes say 3...
[22:00] <slickymaster> #endmeeting
[22:00] <meetingology> Meeting ended Wed Apr 15 22:00:36 2015 UTC.
[22:00] <meetingology> Minutes: http://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/xubuntu-devel/2015/xubuntu-devel.2015-04-15-21.01.moin.txt
[22:00] <zequence> No, that was for trusty, I believe
[22:01] <zequence> I wasn't as involved in that 3 years ago
[22:01] <elfy> "Ubuntu Studio 12.04 LTS is a 5 year Long Term Support release and will be supported until April 2017. "
[22:01] <knome> oh
[22:01] <knome> where did i read something different then.
[22:01] <knome> let me dig that up.
[22:02] <elfy> anyway - I'm off now
[22:02] <elfy> thanks slickymaster :)
[22:02] <knome> "Ubuntu Studio 12.04 LTS is a 3 year Long Term Support release and will be supported until April 2015. "
[22:02] <knome> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PrecisePangolin/ReleaseNotes/UbuntuStudio/UbuntuStudio-12.04
[22:02] <micahg> "Ubuntu Studio 12.04 LTS is a 5 year Long Term Support release and will be supported until April 2017. "
[22:02] <micahg> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PrecisePangolin/ReleaseNotes/UbuntuStudio
[22:02] <zequence> Heh
[22:02] <elfy> but you missed pleia2 setting next meeting
[22:02] <pleia2> woo, no chairing
[22:03] <slickymaster> yeah, pleia2 ^^
[22:03] <knome> linked to from https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PrecisePangolin/ReleaseNotes/12.04
[22:03] <pleia2> but seriously, I don't even know when we want to have the next meeting
[22:04] <pleia2> next week is no good because release, week after maybe we'll all be sleeping
[22:04] <elfy> well if we had one next week - I'll just be mithering about people testing - so best not :p
[22:04] <elfy> pleia2: week after is UOS week
[22:04] <pleia2> yeah
[22:04] <knome> avoid that like plague
[22:04] <micahg> there's a week in between
[22:04] <knome> i'm offline then
[22:05] <pleia2> oh, end of april week
[22:05] <knome> micahg, that was the week we were sleeping
[22:05] <pleia2> yeah
[22:05] <elfy> anyway - I'm away now - night all :)
[22:05] <knome> nighty elfy
[22:05] <micahg> I thought that was UOS week :p
[22:05] <elfy> LOL
[22:05] <knome> nope
[22:06] <knome> that's the week after the sleepy one
[22:06] <pleia2> nah, that's when we wake up and have lots of work so UOS is hard
[22:06] <ochosi> sry guys, was already falling asleep
[22:06] <knome> haha
[22:06] <ochosi> heading to bed now, night
[22:06] <slickymaster> minutes are up
[22:06] <pleia2> night elfy and ochosi
[22:06] <slickymaster> night elfy, ochosi
[22:16] <knome> ok, took care of the slideshow thingy
[22:17] <slickymaster> great knome, thanks for that
[22:17] <knome> again np
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[08:24] <toddy> ich weiß nicht, ob ihr das gesehen habt. Also wenn ihr da ein paar Minuten Zeit habt: http://forum.ubuntuusers.de/post/7476373/
[11:06] <phillip> toddy: jor, sie hat auch auf unserer Mailing Liste gefragt :)
[11:14] <toddy> ok :)
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[07:25] <goudfazant3991> alles werkt nu weer goed
[07:31] <goudfazant3991> kan ik de iconen die links staan ook verdelen over het scherm??
[08:08] <poetpiet> hulloo ollemeel .... ik heb een vraagje over mapopties / kleuren ... in welke versie kan ik mapkleuren instellen??
[08:09] <trijntje> welke versie van wat?
[08:10] <poetpiet> ja .. juist .. in welke NOG TE INSTALLEREN / te kiezen versie ..... kan ik kleurtjes veranderen???? ik heb een nooit gebruikte 10 jaar ouwe medeon
[08:12] <lotuspsychje> hij bedoeld themas wellicht
[08:16] <trijntje> poetpiet: met themas kan je in elke versie van ubuntu de kleur van mappen instellen
[08:16] <trijntje> maar als je zo'n ouwe pc hebt moet je sowieso een lichte versie van ubuntu hebben
[08:17] <poetpiet> niet niet hapklare dingen (de omranding en zo ... maar de witte achtergrond van de inhoud veranderen .... ik ben allergisch voor schermwit .... snap je???
[08:18] <jpjacobs> er zijn zeker easy-on-the-eyes thema's te vinden
[08:19] <jpjacobs> maar voor een oude pc zou ik voor xubuntu (lichter) of lubuntu (nog lichter) gaan
[08:19] <jpjacobs> hoeveel RAM geheugen heeft ie?
[08:24] <poetpiet> aah ... grrr ... waar zie je die gegevens ook al weer via het menu? ... kan altijd de doos op gaan graven .. mischien makkelijker ...
[08:24] <SCHAAP137> Random Access Memory; geheugen zit al in het woord verwerkt
[08:24] <SCHAAP137> "RAM geheugen" is beetje dubbelop
[08:25] <jpjacobs> Juist ja
[08:25] <jpjacobs> bedankt, SCHAAP137
[08:25] <jpjacobs> in windows "deze computer" openen, en daar ergens eigenschappen of iets dergelijks ('k vermoed dat er momenteel nog XP op staat?)
[08:27] <SCHAAP137> brb
[08:36] <poetpiet> re: versie met (map) achtergrond kleur optie vraag fysiek = 512Mb, beschikbaar 34 ... enzovoorts, .. onder systeeminfo, 3 submenuutjes verwijderd ... doos locatie overigens ook op enkele dichte deurtjes afstand geraakt ..
[08:44] <jpjacobs> heb je er al ubuntu opgezet?
[08:47] <poetpiet> iemand helpt me dat te doen morgen avond ... op deze ook te doen ... ik heb op een andere doos al zijn versie gehad .... kon de kleur opties niet vinden ...
[08:48] <poetpiet> kan ze op het net trouwens ook niet vinden ...
[08:48] <jpjacobs> oh
[08:51] <jpjacobs> bv hier http://gnome-look.org/?xcontentmode=100
[08:52] <jpjacobs> (als ik be goed herinner gebruiken zowel xubuntu als lubuntu gtk)
[09:02] <poetpiet> dank je wel jp ... ik zal proberen of mijn ubuntu versie in dat jasje past .. Leaves Leaves 0.8.5 .... lijkt op de voorkeurskleuren waar ik firefox in hijs alvorens de al te hels 'heldere' goeigulgroegal omgeving te betreden ... zo ongeveer als toen ik compieklusters onder bescherming van een paraplu placht te betreden / trotseren .. back i nthe day
[09:04] <poetpiet> met 'gruwelijk gul groeiende omgalgeving' bedoelde ik natuurlijk google (ben fervent wereldbrandblusser / GPlusser
[09:19] <poetpiet> kan een 11 jaar ouwe doos met 512 geheugen dit aan: http://gnome-look.org/content/show.php/Sage?content=160227
[09:27] <poetpiet> er zit wel een behoorlijke processor op: 3... nog iets ... 3059Mghz .. advies welkom te gmail.com
[09:36] <jpjacobs> tsss
[10:09] <lordievader> Goede middag.
[12:38] <mandje> goemiddag. in virtualbox/windows met ubuntu host geen verbinding met de router. ik zet 'm in VB eigenlijk altijd op 'bridged mode' en dan geeft dhcp ip adres en gaan.. nu wil het maar niet lukken. iemand een tip/hint?
[13:10] <Sling> mandje: wat bedoel je met 'geen verbinding met de router' ?
[13:11] <Sling> wat laat bijvoorbeeld 'ip addr' zien?
[13:11] <Sling> en hij staat nu op bridged ingesteld, met een interface op de host die actief is?
[13:13] <mandje> win blijft de hele tijd 'identifying' proberen. ik heb het idee dat ie een ip adres van de router probeert te krijgen dan.
[13:14] <Sling> ah de host is ubuntu en de vm windows?
[13:14] <mandje> ja
[13:14] <Sling> in dat geval, wat laat 'ipconfig' zien :)
[13:14] <mandje> ik dacht al.. :)
[13:14] <Sling> (en is de interface wel op DHCP ingesteld?)
[13:17] <mandje> ja de win eth interface staat op dhcp.
[13:21] <Sling> klinkt alsof ie geen dhcp lease kan krijgen dan
[13:21] <Sling> wat staat er bij ip adres als je ipconfig uitvoert?
[13:22] <Sling> kun je op de router zien welke dhcp leases er uitgegeven zijn? verschilt per model/webinterface hoe dat precies gaat
[13:23] <mandje> ik probeer de command prompt te copy/pasten maar hoe doe je dat in windows? mark -> selecteren -> ctrl-c.. nada.
[13:23] <mandje> ip adres is van die mislukte range
[13:23] <Sling> 169.x ?
[13:24] <Sling> die geeft windows zichzelf idd als een dhcp niet lukt
[13:24] <Sling> krijgt ie wel een IP als je de VM op NAT zet?
[13:24] <mandje> ja. 169.254.x
[13:24] <mandje> nee ook niet volgens mij. k probeer het nog es.
[13:24] <Sling> dan zou de virtualbox 'router' een IP moeten uitdelen
[13:25] <mandje> nee bij nat geeft ie meteen 'no internet acces'.
[13:26] <Sling> en hoe krijgt die windows host zijn internet? gewoon met 1 wired netwerkinterface naar de router direct, met dhcp?
[13:26] <mandje> ik begrijp het principe. maar in mijn ervaring vond ik bridged het makkelijkst.
[13:26] <Sling> of iets bijzonders
[13:27] <Sling> err
[13:27] <Sling> linux host dus
[13:27] <mandje> wlan
[13:27] <mandje> wifi
[13:27] <Sling> en de bridge staat niet toevallig op de eth0 ?
[13:27] <mandje> jawel.
[13:27] <Sling> dan werkt t niet
[13:27] <Sling> want die eth0 heeft geen connectie
[13:27] <Sling> dan zou je je wireless interface moeten bridgen in virtualbox
[13:27] <mandje> wlan ook geprobeerd. werkte ook niet.
[13:28] <Sling> dat betekent nog niet dat het eth0 moet zijn ;)
[13:28] <Sling> je actieve interface is degene die je moet bridgen
[13:28] <mandje> ok. dat klinkt logisch.
[13:31] <mandje> Sling: je actieve interface is degene die je moet bridgen. = in VB settings Attatched to: Bridged Adapter Name: wlan0
[13:31] <Sling> sounds good
[13:31] <mandje> maar hetzelfde. wil niet identifyen.
[13:32] <Sling> heb je nog andere vm's?
[13:32] <mandje> router herstarten?
[13:32] <Sling> ik zou als ik jou was een ubuntu vm maken en kijken of die ook geen dhcp krijgt
[13:32] <mandje> nee. geen andere vm's.
[13:32] <Sling> dat is wat makkelijker te debuggen dan windows
[13:32] <Sling> dat merk je al tijdens de installer
[13:32] <mandje> ja goed idee.
[13:33] <mandje> ak er de ruimte voor heb op de schijf..
[13:33] <Sling> ipc hoef je alleen ruimte voor de iso te hebben en een hele kleine schijf aan te maken
[13:33] <mandje> mmm de mac heeft ook een win VM aan boord. die start ik ook even op. kijken wat dat doet.
[13:33] <Sling> ok
[13:34] <mandje> ipc = in principe?
[13:34] <Sling> uh, ja :p
[13:34] <mandje> die kende ik nog niet. wel mss en idd.
[13:51] <lordievader> Tijd om op de host te gaan tcpdumpen?
[13:54] <mandje> op de mac , gruwelijk traag door de VM, staat VB ook op Bridged, en0: ethernet (mac heeft kabel). de win doet ook dhcp. en verbinding.
[13:55] <mandje> ik bedenk me opeens dat ik met de ubuntu notebook in de tuin via de repeater bezig ben. zou daar iets kunnen liggen?
[13:56] <Sling> ik zou wel in de tuin willen liggen
[13:56] <jpjacobs> heb pas van iemand ook gehoord dat er wat gehannest is met volgordes(namen) van interfaces met een recente kernel upgrade, mss heeft het daar iets mee te maken?
[13:56] * mandje wandelt naar bereik van de router zelf.
[13:56] <jpjacobs> iets van 2 interfaces plots omgewisseld
[13:56] <Sling> als je host via dhcp via de repeater internet kan krijgen dan moet ander bridged traffic dat ook kunnen
[13:56] <Sling> dat heeft alleen een ander src mac, vanuit de router gezien
[13:57] <Sling> maar who knows
[14:05] * lordievader vindt het tijd om tcpdump van stal te halen.
[14:05] <lordievader> Zie je gelijk wat er met je DHCP requests gebeurd.
[14:07] <mandje1> ja verbinding. wanneer direct wlan van router werkt dhcp.
[14:08] <lordievader> mandje1: Kijk eens op de host wat er met de vm's dhcp requests gebeurd ;)
[14:08] <mandje1> host is dan?
[14:09] <lordievader> De Ubu box.
[14:09] <mandje1> ok. is een log van?
[14:10] <lordievader> mandje1: Tcpdump, waar ik al een tijdje naar zit te hinten ;)
[14:10] <mandje1> oh
[14:11] <mandje1> hoe doek tcpdump maken?
[14:11] <mandje1> tcpdump is geen command. ubu 12.04
[14:12] <mandje1> en die win VM geef ik dan maar vast ip.
[14:12] <lordievader> Jawel. tcpdump -i <interface> <ip-win-vm>
[14:12] <lordievader> Err, tcpdump -i <interface>
[14:12] <lordievader> De vm heeft vast zijn eigen interface.
[14:13] * lordievader heeft vb, gelukkig, al tijden niet meer gebruikt.
[14:13] <mandje1> tcpdump moek eerst installeren. (brabants accent)
[14:15] <mandje1> oh nee. tis er wel. ik deed verkeerde syntax
[14:16] <mandje1> hoe heet dat device dan? wlan...
[14:17] <mandje1> ja ok. wlan0 maar wel met sudo
[14:18] <mandje1> goed een lopende dump. en dan zeker dhcp proberen in bereik repeater? kieken wat er steet.
[14:19] <lordievader> Nee, je wilt de interface van de vm hebben.
[14:19] <lordievader> mandje1: Zou je de output van 'ip link' willen pastebinnen?
[14:20] <OerHeks> etwork interfaces available for the capture:
[14:20] <OerHeks> #tcpdump -D
[14:20] <mandje1> http://paste.ubuntu.com/10827009/
[14:21] * OerHeks vergat de N
[14:22] <lordievader> mandje1: Draai je libvirt?
[14:22] <mandje1> lordievader: de interface van de VM is toch wlan? bridged.
[14:22] <mandje1> ja geloof het wel.
[14:23] <lordievader> Hmm, dan zal virbr0 wel van libvirt zijn. Kortom ik weet niet meer hoe VB zijn networking doet.
[14:23] <lordievader> Je kunt opzich wlan0 gaan pcappen, maar dan moet je wel een leuk filter bedenken.
[14:23] <mandje1> nee in top geen libvirt.
[14:25] <lordievader> Ach: "sudo tcpdump -i any 'udp && (port 67 || port 68)'" doet het ook wel.
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[20:48] <cmaloney> Afternoon
[21:06] <rick_h_> party
[21:06] <mthx> Afternoon!
[21:20] <cmaloney> rick_h_: How's travel-life?
[21:35] <rick_h_> cmaloney: ok, big day is tomorrow
[21:37] <rick_h_> germany party party
[21:37] <cmaloney> Woo woo.
[21:37] <cmaloney> Hope for all the best for you.
[21:38] <rick_h_> ty :)
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2015-04-15-#ubuntu-pt
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[02:46] <astroo-> ciao pessoal
[11:25] <chotaz`w> why so empty :(
[12:42] <lusitan> chotaz`w: we are only a few people but we are good :)
[13:03] <chotaz`w> lusitan, não estava a por isso em causa, mas bom bom era sermos umas centenas eheh "roma não se fez num dia" não é verdade
[13:05] <lusitan> o problema é que oiço esse tipo de comentários demasiadas vezes
[13:05] <lusitan> está que quer e pronto
[13:05] <lusitan> *quem quer
[20:54] <astroo-> ola pessoal
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2015-04-15-#ubuntu-us-tn
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[15:17] <bwmaker> Just going to leave this right here: http://www.overstock.com/bretmichaels?TID=BMBanner:BretsPage
[15:48] <xTEMPLARx> what'd we do to you, bwmaker
[15:58] <xTEMPLARx> FWIW, the Reflection SSH client for iOS is pretty darned good
[15:58] <xTEMPLARx> especially with a bluetooth kb :D
[16:26] <bwmaker> If iOS allowed for multiple users on a device, I'd likely use it more, since my wife has an iPad Mini she hardly uses.
[17:16] <xTEMPLARx> like profiles?
[17:16] <xTEMPLARx> that'd be a good idea
[18:09] <bwmaker> On my Nexus 7, Android has multiple users like a computer would.
[18:38] <xTEMPLARx> my wife has the samsung galaxy tab 4, 7" version. she's loving it
[18:39] <xTEMPLARx> and for 193, its much cheaper than an apple equivalent.
[19:30] <bwmaker> I have split feelings about it. I don't like an advertising company supplying my phone and tracking all that data, but it is more customizable than iOS.
[19:30] * Unit193 looks around.
[19:30] <bwmaker> Apple's hardware is nice, though.
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2015-04-24-#ubuntu-ir
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[12:16] <hasan> salam
[16:02] <afoot> in che zendgeeeie!
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2015-04-24-#ubuntu-us-or
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[18:25] <wxl> sgclark: damn it's cold outside! at least the bus is warm. :) see you soon!
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2015-04-24-#ubuntu-ca
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[16:36] <Reid> I put the photos from last night's Ubuntun Vivid Vervet 15.04 release party up on Dropbox: https://www.dropbox.com/sh/8xk71n8d7b7av1l/AAAjs83MFXOBTr5GwpOIq9nca?dl=0
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2015-04-24-#ubuntu-se
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[06:19] <Barre> andol: mörrn, varför skicka den signerade gpg-nyckeln? nån process/rutin som jag inte känner till?
[06:34] <andol> Barre: Tja, utöver att veta att man signerar för rätt person så vill man ju även veta att personen ifråga verkligen har kontroll över mailadresserna ifråga. Tidigare har jag vid osäkerhet skickat en krypterad "challenge" till adresserna ifråga, och sen först signerat vid svar. Ett smidigare alternativ är dock då att skicka en krypterad individuell signatur till repsektive mail-adress dess uid mappar mot.
[06:34] <andol> Barre: Efter nyckelsigneringen i samband med FOSDEM insåg jag att jag behövde ta den snäppet mer effektiva approachen :)
[06:36] <andol> Har man dessutom vant sig vid verktyget caff så är det dessutom den smidigaste metoden, med eller utan paranoia :)
[06:37] <andol> delhage: Japp, nu har även jag hoppat på caff-tåget :)
[07:22] <Barre> andol: snyggt.. måste dock läsa på lite om caff då jag inte vet vad det är
[07:24] <andol> https://wiki.debian.org/caff
[07:25] <senate> imorgon blir debian jessie stable (: bara så ni vet
[07:25] <senate> är det några fördelar att köra zfs i linux?
[07:33] <andol> senate: imorgon väl?
[07:33] <Amoz> andol, vad skrev han? :P
[07:33] <andol> senate: Fördelar med att välja Linux för att köra ZFS eller fördelar med att välja ZFS ifall man kör Linux?
[07:33] <andol> senate: Fast det var ju imorgon du sa, never mind.
[07:34] <HeMan> senate: zfs i bsd kör med native nfs4 acl'er
[07:34] <HeMan> senate: medans de översätts i linux
[07:37] <HeMan> senate: det verkar vara problem med selinux och zfs med
[07:37] <senate> andol: tänkte om man kör zfs i debian eller ubuntu
[07:39] <senate> HeMan: ok. kanske lugna mig lite med att prova det då :)
[07:39] <senate> verkar ju vara ett bra filsystem annars
[07:39] <andol> Tja, fördelarna är ju att ZFS är ZFS :) Fast i och med att det ju inte riktigt är fullt integrerat så skulle jag nog inte köra det som root-filsystem, men väl för en data-partion.
[07:39] <andol> Fast det känns mest intressant ifall man har någon form utav disklåda, och då skulle jag nog hellre gå med FreeBSD för en sådan burk.
[07:43] <senate> är dock inte så hemma i fbsd alls
[07:44] <senate> ska nog sätta upp en testburk och testa zfs i debian i helgen
[08:01] <Amoz> senate, why not btrfs?
[08:08] <senate> Amoz: är det lika säkert mot korrupt data då?
[08:10] <Dynamit> Godmorgon godmorgon hör fåglarna sjunga
[08:12] <Amoz> senate, vet inte om det har gjorts studier på det på nåt sätt, men principen är väl densamma? checksummor som kontrolleras per automatik vid läsning, och om det upptäcks mismatch så läses datat från intakt kopia (om raid finnes)
[08:16] <HeMan> det är dessutom så att det är felkorrigerande checksummor
[08:16] <HeMan> så det behöver inte vara raid
[08:19] <Barre> inte i btrfs väl?
[08:21] <HeMan> så förstod jag det
[08:21] <Barre> Depending on the RAID level you are using, the "correction" factor will be different: * single and RAID-0 have no correction | https://btrfs.wiki.kernel.org/index.php/FAQ
[08:22] <HeMan> hmm
[08:23] <Barre> andol: fick igång min mail med thunnderbird nu \o/
[08:25] <HeMan> gör inte scrub en fix utifrån checksummor?
[08:26] <HeMan> fast den verkar behöva raid1
[08:27] <Barre> mm
[08:31] <huttan> 15.04 ute än ?
[08:31] <HeMan> jo
[08:32] <huttan> Fan 10 år med ubuntu nu, lite skumpa idag nästan =)
[08:35] <Dynamit> fan det kan man säga
[08:35] <Dynamit> du får mig känna mig gammal haha
[08:38] <huttan> haha
[08:40] <huttan> Dynamit: Hur gammal är du ??
[08:41] <Dynamit> 25
[08:42] <Dynamit> Kund fan
[08:42] <huttan> Fortf ung :)
[08:42] <Dynamit> människan har ändrat alla jäkla priserna så jag måste göra om pristabbellerna
[08:42] <HeMan> jag är 2B
[08:42] <HeMan> eller 0x2B om man ska vara petig
[08:43] <Dynamit> för de han gav mig innehöll stenålders priser
[08:43] <Dynamit> så alla jäkla timmar var i onödan
[08:44] <HeMan> Dynamit: du kör inget script som gör jobbet då?
[08:44] <Dynamit> så nu har jag en jäkla massa göra och jag bara sitter fast
[08:44] <Dynamit> nej jag satt och matade in manuellt ifrån gamla db till csv
[08:45] <Dynamit> Så nu vet i fan jag måste komma på hur fan jag ska göra så woocommerce använder fälten jag la till i admin delen
[08:46] <Dynamit> för visa innehållet på produkt sidan om det är ifyllt samt räkna ut rabbatten (minsta bekymmret med rabatten)
[08:46] <Dynamit> kan fan inte ens stava rätt just nu
[08:47] <Dynamit> Värsta är att idag är sista dagen också så vet i fan hur det här ska gå till
[08:47] <Dynamit> jäkla...
[08:47] <huttan> Dynamit: Ja du låter rätt ägd =)
[08:48] <Dynamit> Det kommer gå åt helvete om jag inte hittar lösning på allting typ nu
[08:48] <Dynamit> är det ingen som har någon ide hur jag ska få jäkla checkbox visa sig på produkt sidorna när man använder woocommerce
[09:17] <Amoz> HeMan, nej det är inte felrättande koder i btrfs. Enbart feldetekterande.
[09:18] <Amoz> och scrub-proceduren är bara manuell avfyrning av "läs hela HDDn och rapportera fel" till skillnad från den check som sker kontinuerligt varje gång du läser datat.
[09:21] <Barre> hmm.. varför idikerar inte mailikonen uppe till höger att nya mail kommit in med thunderbird på 14.04?
[09:26] <HeMan> hmm, undrar om det går kör / som btrfs och använda en subvolume till en ubuntu-installation och en subvolume till fedora?
[09:27] <HeMan> och köra duperemove för att deduplicera
[09:32] <Amoz> HeMan, borde fungera, men jag tror inte du kommer få så mycket dupes där, inte för själva systemfilerna iaf, men iduno.
[09:34] <HeMan> det är ju på extent-nivå den dedupar så man kanske får lite mer plats
[09:36] <Amoz> jag är nyfiken på hur många filer/extents som faktiskt är lika när det är två helt olika distar med helt olika versioner på mjukvara.
[09:37] <HeMan> hmm, mina lxc-"maskiner" kör ju både ubuntu, debian och fedora, borde gå se där
[09:39] <Amoz> HeMan, det där är ett vanligt usecase med tydligen. Man sätter upp en "template" subvolume/snapshot, å sen kan man göra 10 olika separata maskiner från det på 1 sekund
[09:39] <HeMan> jepp!
[09:39] <Amoz> och om du kör flera LXC av samma dist/version så lär det ju gå att dedupa en massa
[09:40] <HeMan> är det samma dist så blir det i praktiken bara skillnaderna som lagras
[09:40] <HeMan> så det tar nästan ingen plats att ha 50 maskiner
[09:40] <Amoz> exakt
[09:40] <HeMan> däremot kan 50 maskiner göra apt-get update i samma ögonblick
[09:40] <HeMan> vilket snabbt sänker hosten...
[09:41] <Amoz> mindre bra idé :P
[09:42] <HeMan> jag skulle labba med cfengine och satte upp en server och 50 agenter
[09:42] <HeMan> sen vara det bara att gå och trycka på powerknappen...
[09:46] <HeMan> Barre: är det en https://hackaday.io/project/4141-c12666ma-micro-spectrometer jag ska ha till min overengineerade surströmmingstunna?
[10:24] <Dynamit> Äntligen så har jag gjort de nya pristabellerna åtmionstone
[10:24] <Dynamit> *åtminstone*
[10:25] <Dynamit> måste bara komma på hur fan den där jäkla rabatten ska appliceras på bra sätt
[10:25] <Dynamit> samt jäkla fraktkostnads uträkning men om jag bryr mig först om den där jäkla rabatten så den blir klar
[10:25] <Dynamit> åtminstone
[10:39] <Dynamit> Tror ni att https://wordimpress.com/create-conditional-checkout-fields-woocommerce/ kan vara något för mig
[10:40] <Dynamit> om jag nu ersätter book_in_cart delen med en foreach loop
[10:40] <Dynamit> så att besökare kan välja för varje produkt de har lagt till i korgen
[10:41] <Dynamit> sedan måste den i foreach loopen iför sig lägga till text som säger typ produktnamn: utan skydd XX% rabbat
[10:51] <Barre> HeMan: hahaha... inte vet jag =)
[11:54] <Dynamit> Är någon här haj på Woocommerce
[11:54] <Dynamit> alltså jag har gjort ett plugin redan igår som funkar som den ska när det gäller administratörs panelen
[11:54] <Dynamit> för produkten
[11:55] <Dynamit> men fattar inte vart jag ska skriva in "echo get_post_meta( $post->ID, 'my.field-slug', true );"
[11:55] <Dynamit> någonstans
[11:56] <Amoz> Dynamit, har du testat #woocommerce?
[11:56] <Dynamit> Haha tänkte om ni hade någon ide snabbt
[11:56] <Dynamit> var ändå i den här kanalen
[11:56] <Dynamit> det är ju så jobbigt skriva /join #woocommerce
[11:56] <Dynamit> vet du inte det hahaha
[11:56] <Amoz> hahahah
[11:57] <Amoz> säkert mycket jobbigare än att skriva en halv uppsats om ens woocommerce-problem ;)
[11:57] <Dynamit> Haha har du verkligen missat hur lat jkag är
[11:57] <Dynamit> finns många här som kan bekräfta hur lat jag är
[11:57] <Dynamit> haha
[12:09] <Dynamit> fan det är lika dött på woocommerce som det är här på sistone
[12:09] <Dynamit> var fan mer fart när jag gick i Mellansel
[12:09] <Dynamit> haha
[14:09] <HeMan> andol: hur mycket folk blev det igår?
[14:18] <andol> HeMan: Tror vi landade på nio pers.
[14:21] <HeMan> kul!
[16:26] <andol> HeMan: Jorå, vart riktigt trevligt, och lagom nerdigt :)
[16:58] <Dynamit> Jag blir fan snart tokigare på skiten
[17:13] <HeMan> selinux verkar funka bättre i skarpa 15.04 än under alfa och betaperioden
[17:23] <Dynamit> haha brukar ju vara så HeMan har du glömt det
[17:23] <Dynamit> :P
[17:24] <HeMan> fast det var bara någon vecka sedan jag testade selinux i betan och då funkade det inte alls
[17:25] <Dynamit> Jag blir fan galen på mitt problem HeMan den har inte löst sig på hela dagen
[17:30] <HeMan> Dynamit: sed ftw!
[17:33] <Dynamit> haha funkar inte riktigt i woocommerce köra sed :P
[17:35] <HeMan> Dynamit: http://php.net/manual/en/function.system.php
[17:45] <Dynamit> så till vida kanske det funkar ja
[17:45] <Dynamit> men hur ska jag med hjälp av sed få ut värderna som sparas i db och ha mig det verkar väldigt krångligt
[17:45] <Dynamit> eftersom då måste jag ta reda på vart den ligger och allt möjligt
[17:47] <HeMan> Dynamit: echo "select * from table" | mysql database | sed -e 'massafiffigheter' > my.csv
[17:47] <HeMan> :)
[17:50] <Dynamit> och hur mycket tar inte det där när den ska läsa det hela tiden
[17:50] <Dynamit> eller ja varje gång
[17:51] <HeMan> frågan är väl varför du ska ha det som csv och inte låta woocomerce läsa direkt i databasen
[17:52] <Dynamit> jasså tänker du på den biten
[17:52] <Dynamit> haha
[17:52] <Dynamit> pristabellen är redan gjord
[17:52] <Dynamit> var mest svärande över kunden
[17:53] <Dynamit> http://www.remicorson.com/mastering-woocommerce-products-custom-fields/
[17:53] <Dynamit> jag har gjort det där
[17:53] <Dynamit> men fattar inte vart jag ska skriva echo get_post_meta( get_the_ID(), 'my-field-slug', true );
[17:53] <Dynamit> prövar i short-description även om det ser för jävligt ut
[17:54] <Dynamit> istället för vara vid alla andra variationer
[17:54] <Dynamit> men men
[17:55] <Dynamit> fick den helt plötsligt åtminstone hämta värdet yay
[17:55] <Dynamit> men skulle helst vilja ha den bland alla andra variationer men det har gåt lite frammåt nu åtminstone
[17:57] <Dynamit> http://fortnox.rar-network.se/butik/fonstermarkis/fonstermarkis/ är en annan produkt som åtminstone har variablar
[17:58] <Dynamit> Skulle helst ha utan skydd som ett exempel under Reglagesida just denna har inte en variation med rubriken skydd
[17:58] <Dynamit> men det var bara som ett exempel
[17:58] <Dynamit> så du ser mer vad jag pratar om
[22:28] <Philip5> maxjezy: vad har du för grafikkort när du kör blender?
[22:28] <maxjezy> 550
[22:28] <Philip5> köra en benchmark?
[22:29] <Philip5> http://blenderartists.org/forum/showthread.php?239480-2-7x-Cycles-benchmark-%28Updated-BMW%29
[22:29] <Philip5> den scenen som den är utan tweaks
[22:30] <Philip5> jag slår iaf inte han som skapat demofilen
[22:30] <Philip5> jg fick 2 min 50 sek
[22:31] <maxjezy> vad har du för kort?
[22:33] <Philip5> 660
[22:33] <maxjezy> där passerade jag 2 och 50
[22:33] <maxjezy> men inte mycket kvar
[22:34] <Philip5> vinner du på att köra cpu istället ;)
[22:35] <maxjezy> 4 m 9 s
[22:35] <maxjezy> tror det beror mycket på inställningar
[22:35] <Philip5> då blev det en del skillnad på en gernerations gpu
[22:36] <Philip5> finns ju 900-serien nu också
[22:36] <maxjezy> hur stora bitar man renderar osv
[22:37] <Philip5> roade mig med att packa senaste blender igår
[22:37] <Philip5> jobbiga är att den helst vill ha en massa uppdaterade beroenden också
[22:38] <maxjezy> jo, det som är smidigt med windows och blender :)
[22:38] <maxjezy> nä, min cpu klarar inte jobbet snabbare
[22:38] <maxjezy> antagligen 6 minuter drygt
[22:39] <maxjezy> orka inte höra på fläkten mera
[22:39] <Philip5> hehe
[22:40] <maxjezy> har ditt kort 2GB minne?
[22:41] <Philip5> minns faktiskt inte
[22:41] <Philip5> ja
[22:41] <maxjezy> tycker nackdelen med mitt är minnet
[22:41] <maxjezy> som ofta inte räcker till
[22:41] <Philip5> 2048 mb :)
[22:41] <maxjezy> det är för lite det med ofta :)
[22:41] <maxjezy> 8 gb hade varit nå
[22:42] <maxjezy> men, det är då man kör på cpu
[22:42] <maxjezy> där har man ju 16 gb
[22:43] <maxjezy> jag måste köpa nytt kort för mitt är tydligen inte bra nog för gta 5
[22:46] <Philip5> jag klarar mig rätt bra på det det jag har för det jag gör
[22:50] <maxjezy> har du sett att man kan ha dept of field i viewporten nu när man modellerar osv i blender?
[22:53] <Philip5> har inte kollat vad som hänt sedan typ 2.5
[22:54] <maxjezy> jag renderar hår på bilen nu
[22:54] <Philip5> hehe
[22:57] <maxjezy> tror jag ska satsa på hårstylist inom 3d
[23:01] <Philip5> och kinky stuff i human-programmet
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2015-04-24-#ubuntu-us-ca
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[00:42] <nhaines> pleia2: I've only been to countries that grant automatic visas. :)
[00:43] <ianorlin> hmm linux.conf.au seems interesting but I don't know how I would do in an airplane
[00:51] <ianorlin> and fosdem had lots of talks but not many good recordings :(
[01:01] <nhaines> ianorlin: airplanes are boring. They're like busses except faster.
[01:01] <nhaines> The problem with going to Australia is that you're in the airplane for like 20 hours.
[20:29] <ianorlin> hmm manpages.ubuntu.com isn't up for 15.04 yet
[20:57] <Roguehorse> sent this to my boss https://youtu.be/f8Co37GO2Fc
[20:57] <darthrobot> [R: www.youtube.com] Title: [Enabling students in a digital age: Charlie Reisinger at TEDxLancaster - YouTube]
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2015-04-24-#ubuntu-ru
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[09:03] <|rapidsp|> как у пакета deb узнать зависимости?
[09:06] <andrex> apt-rdepends
[09:11] <|rapidsp|> да, нашел уже :)
[11:20] <TomFarr> кря?
[11:23] <TomFarr> кто подскажет, как юнити заставить по второму клику на эконке сворачивать окно?
[11:26] <andrex> фз чет ковырять нада есть ппа
[11:26] <andrex> ppa:zxcq14/minimize-unity-7
[11:28] <TomFarr> andrex, а что с этим ппа делать?
[12:09] <andrex> http://help.ubuntu.ru/wiki/ppa
[14:15] <hipols> hi all
[15:13] <Denver79> тааак.. обновился до 15.04. Стартует загрузчик, клавиатура юсб работает, дальше окно ввода пароля от диска - юсб клавиатура не реагирует. Если в загрузчике выбрать ядро 3.16 - работает. Что не так с 3.19?
[15:15] <Denver79> родная клава ноутбука утоплена в алкоголе )
[15:15] <andrex> фз у мну норм
[15:15] <andrex> правда я уже не юзаю дефолтное ведро
[15:16] <Denver79> я один такой уникум? )
[15:16] <andrex> походу)
[15:16] <andrex> Linux andrex-HP-ProBook-4540s 4.0.0-040000-lowlatency #201504121935 SMP PREEMPT Sun Apr 12 23:45:04 UTC 2015 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux
[15:17] <Denver79> я тоже на hp
[17:02] <UNIm95> Denver79: переткни клаву
[17:04] <Denver79> да без разницы в какой порт юсб включать приёмник беспроводной клавы - в груб работает, а ввод пароля lvm уже нет. выбираю в грубе ядро 3.16 - работает
[17:05] <Denver79> 3.19 нет
[17:08] <Denver79> сижу курю с гугл переводчиком ) http://askubuntu.com/questions/613139/ubuntu-15-04-usb-devices-powered-off-at-encrypted-root-password-prompt
[17:33] <Denver79> Вообщем выше ссылка помогла. Человек пишет что ядро 3.19, используемое в 15.04, больше не поддерживает мою бепроводную клавиатуру Logitech K350.
[17:33] <Denver79> Советует:
[17:33] <Denver79> В /etc/initramfs-tools/modules
[17:33] <Denver79> добавить строчку hid-logitech-hidpp и сохранить.
[17:33] <Denver79> Потом в терминале sudo update-initramfs -u и рестарт компьютера.
[17:33] <Denver79> Заработало
[17:33] <Denver79> Эти монипуляции не нарушат чего нибудь в безопасности?
[17:43] <JohnDoe_71Rus> не нарушат. Ты добавил драйвер для своей клавы в загрузку
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2015-04-24-#launchpad-dev
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[10:57] <wgrant> cjwatson: Why "except Exception" in merge-conflicts?
[11:04] <cjwatson> wgrant: Because pygit2 can raise a cluster of exceptions and I can't think of a better response to any of them than just leaving the file in a dodgy unresolved conflicted state. Although I guess we could just decline to handle that exception at all and let it 500.
[11:05] <wgrant> cjwatson: Crashing rather than giving a bogus diff seems reasonable to me, unless we discover otherwise later on.
[11:06] <cjwatson> OK, done.
[11:11] <cjwatson> Hm. It's a bug that PreviewDiff.fromBranchMergeProposal doesn't set preview.prerequisite_revision_id, isn't it?
[11:12] <wgrant> Quite likely.
[11:12] <cjwatson> Seems like that means that we won't notice when a preview diff is stale due to a changed prereq.
[11:12] <wgrant> Well, we don't consider diffs stale unless the source branch has changed, usually.
[11:14] <cjwatson> I'm not actually sure stale affects anything much anyway ...
[11:14] <cjwatson> The comments claim there's a stale-diff CSS class, but that's never set by anything.
[11:15] <cjwatson> And I don't think whatever updates preview diffs has much to do with the stale property definition per se.
[11:15] <wgrant> It may have been more relevant in the MAD days.
[11:15] <cjwatson> MAD?
[11:15] <wgrant> Merge Analysis Daemon
[11:15] <wgrant> From the good old days when you had to run a script to generate preview diffs yourself because reasons.
[11:15] <cjwatson> I don't remember that.
[11:16] <wgrant> 2008ish, I think.
[12:34] <cjwatson> wgrant: I think that https://code.launchpad.net/~cjwatson/rabbitfixture/work-around-stop-hang/+merge/257361 should work around quite a few of the pesky buildbot hangs, although we'd need to reclaim PyPI access.
[12:52] <wgrant> cjwatson: Bah, I thought I'd caught all those packages apart from sidnei's.
[12:53] <wgrant> bac: ^^ can we have rabbitfixture PyPI access?
[12:56] <bac> wgrant: you want access to rabbitfixture on pypi? what account?
[12:56] <bac> wgrant: i had no idea i had access but i'm glad to add you.
[12:57] <wgrant> bac: wgrant and cjwatson, pls.
[12:58] <bac> okey doke.
[12:59] <wgrant> bac: Thanks.
[13:01] <cjwatson> wgrant: Ta. subprocess32 was a nice discovery.
[13:01] <wgrant> I had no idea of it.
[13:13] <xnox> wgrant: are lazr.* & launchpadlib reclaimed as well?
[13:13] * xnox wants to release those on pypi
[13:13] <wgrant> xnox: Yes, I have access to all lazr packages except two that nobody cares about.
[13:13] <wgrant> Yell if you want some.
[13:13] * xnox checks which ones i care about
[13:15] <xnox> lazr.restful, lazr.restfulclient, launchpadlib, lazr.delegates, lazr.authentication - you seemed to have access to all of them
[13:15] * xnox never did pypi releases
[13:15] <xnox> so I'll ping you to do some of them ;-)
[13:15] <xnox> unless it's automated
[13:15] <cjwatson> twine IYF
[13:16] <cjwatson> gpg --armor -b dist/foo.tar.gz && twine upload dist/foo.tar.gz{,.asc}
[13:18] <cjwatson> assuming you already have a suitable .pypirc
[13:24] <cjwatson> Right, rabbitfixture upgrade landing in devel, so hopefully that's the end of the spurious hangs.
[13:24] <cjwatson> At least that relatively common species of them.
[14:37] <cjwatson> wgrant: Have you had a chance to try out mojo locally recently?
[14:40] <wgrant> cjwatson: I like having my containers working.
[14:40] <wgrant> So no mojo since I left home; juju 1.23 is iffy enough
[14:40] <cjwatson> Mm, I was trying to do the apache2/haproxy unhulksmashing task, but it's pretty tough to do blind ...
[14:40] <wgrant> cjwatson: Does it not work?
[14:40] <wgrant> Ah yeah
[14:41] <cjwatson> Well I never solved the problem I had last Saturday.
[14:41] <wgrant> Was that the share-netns?
[14:41] <cjwatson> Yeah
[14:42] <wgrant> Let's see if I can make it work ish.
[14:42] <cjwatson> Hm. Do we actually need apache2 at all if haproxy is doing SSL termination, I wonder?
[14:42] <cjwatson> All it's doing is logging, proxying to turnip, and getting in the way
[14:43] <cjwatson> (I ask because the stock apache2 charm doesn't support the relation stuff it'd need to be frontended by haproxy)
[14:43] <wgrant> We don't currently make much use of it, indeed.
[14:43] <wgrant> I suspect that we will in future, but it could be removed for now if it's awkward.
[14:44] <cjwatson> What for? Routing hacks or something?
[14:46] <wgrant> Or serving any static content, redirecting / rather than returning uselessness, etc.
[14:49] <cjwatson> It'd be tempting to just do that in turnip directly.
[14:49] <cjwatson> We already have a few static bits there for cgit.
[14:49] <cjwatson> (Which, OK, are kind of in the wrong place but it shows it's not hard)
[14:49] <wgrant> Heh
[14:49] <wgrant> Sure.
[15:15] <cjwatson> The HTTP -> HTTPS redirection is reasonably easy with haproxy 1.5.
[15:16] <wgrant> orly
[15:16] <wgrant> I'm used to LP's haproxy which requires error pages to include HTTP headers...
[15:16] <cjwatson> "redirect scheme https code 301 if !{ ssl_fc }"
[15:17] <cjwatson> I think the only difficult bit is that we probably have to change the charm and the spec at once due to using relation-driven proxying, unless perhaps we add something to turnip's config.yaml to let it know whether it's being frontended directly by a modern haproxy
[15:17] <cjwatson> (Because then haproxy has to listen on ports 80/443, not the same ports as turnip)
[15:19] <wgrant> I'm not sure that using sensible relations here is sensible.
[15:19] <wgrant> But do what seems sensible.
[15:19] <cjwatson> Thanks for the detailed advice. :P
[15:20] <cjwatson> I don't know. Could put the redirect bit directly in the spec, but there isn't really a good way to override the smart-http port at spec level AFAICS.
[15:20] <cjwatson> Thinking of something like http://paste.ubuntu.com/10879298/
[15:21] <wgrant> ew
[15:21] <wgrant> But that would indeed work, I think.
[15:21] <cjwatson> It's kind of weird to have this in turnip.
[15:21] <wgrant> The lack of relation config bites us again
[15:22] <cjwatson> I guess an alternative is to put the 80/443 logic in the spec and have haproxy proxy to itself
[15:22] <cjwatson> So haproxy:443 -> haproxy:9419 -> turnip:9419
[15:22] <cjwatson> (Which I'm assuming one can do, but it's kind of shuffling bytes around for no production benefit)
[21:44] <cjwatson> Seriously? My random-buildbot-hang fix has failed buildbot twice in succession with different random errors?
[21:44] <cjwatson> buildbot has a sense of humour.
[21:46] <wgrant> It certainly does.
[21:53] <cjwatson> Now it's failing in a different bit of rabbitfixture, but it doesn't look related
[21:53] <cjwatson> Must do something about attaching that log as a test detail
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2015-04-24-#ubuntu-it
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[06:30] <akis24> giorno
[07:16] <LostInMyHead> giorno
[08:01] <claudietto> buon giorno a tutti. provo a istallare ubuntu... la prima all'interno di w non mi fa scegliere la partizione che ho gia fatto?
[08:04] <z8z> claudietto: qual'è la domanda esattamente?
[08:08] <claudietto> ho gia w7 e voglio aggiungere ubuntu (14.04.2) quando comincia l'istallazione, la 1^ opzione e di istallarlo all'interno di w7, ma cosi mi farà scegliere la partizione che ho già fatto? io ho scelto l'ultima opzione "ALTRO" ma chiede del file root...
[08:10] <akis24> claudietto: meglio che leggi la guida e comunque ormai installare dentro winz7 è sconsigliato quindi ti crei le partizioni da disco live e poi installi
[08:10] <akis24> !installazione | claudietto
[08:10] <ubot-it> claudietto: http://wiki.ubuntu-it.org/Installazione | Per installazione grafica http://wiki.ubuntu-it.org/Installazione/Grafica | Si consiglia la visione della guida ufficiale in inglese http://www.ubuntu.com/desktop/get-ubuntu/download
[08:11] <z8z> claudietto: installalo a fianco di windows tanto in seguito da windows puoi eliminare la partizione linux e ridimensionare la partizione windows per usare l'intero disco
[08:11] <z8z> claudietto: quindi non ha senso fare ste aberrazioni di installare all'interno
[08:13] <claudietto> già, grazie.
[08:18] <bip> Buongiorno
[08:21] <Guest90321> buongiorno a tutti qualcuno dopo aver aggiornato ubuntu alla versione 15.04 ha provato a fare un aggiornamento? Va a buon fine? Perchè a me si blocca
[08:22] <bip> Guest90321: ciao, che tipo di blocco hai ? Qual è l'errore?
[08:23] <matadores> buon giorno
[08:23] <matadores> a chi posso chiedere per un problrms? non so se è ls sezione giusts però
[08:23] <matadores> "sni-qt/8053" WARN 10:18:21.780 void StatusNotifierItemFactory::connectToSnw() Invalid interface to SNW_SERVIC
[08:24] <matadores> chat
[08:25] <matadores> #chat
[08:25] <Guest90321> bip: se provo a fare apt-get update si blocca ai pacchetti translations, cioè li scarica fino al 100% ma continua a scaricare(non so cosa) e li all'infinito
[08:26] <bip> Guest90321: prova così: sudo rm -r /var/lib/apt/lists/* && sudo apt-get update e poi cambia il server da sorgenti software. Prova a mettere quello Principale
[08:27] <bip> matadores: devi essere più dettagliato. Cosa stai facendo?
[08:29] <matadores> all'ora ieri installato amp e quando lo apro sul terminale ricevo questo errore
[08:29] <matadores> ampps*
[08:30] <matadores> http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/10877076/plain/
[08:30] <matadores> e un server come xampp però secondo me superiore quasi in tutto
[08:32] <gigirock> matadores, superiore anche negli errori....
[08:32] <bip> !chat | matadores
[08:32] <ubot-it> matadores: per qualsiasi argomento non inerente strettamente il supporto a ubuntu, /join #ubuntu-it-chat
[08:33] <jester-> 'ngiorno
[08:34] <Guest90321> bip: grazie ha aggiornato
[08:35] <gigirock> https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+question/248571 | matadores
[08:35] <Guest90321> bip: ti chiedo una cosa se volessi fare un downgrade alla versione stabile 14.04.02 come posso fare?
[08:36] <gigirock> Guest90321, meglio reinstallare tutto
[08:37] <Guest90321> bip: secondo te è meglio tenere le LTS oppure la più aggiornata?
[08:37] <matadores> da precisare una cosa
[08:38] <matadores> durante l'istallazzione ho inserito chmod 777 invece dovevo mettere 755
[08:38] <akis24> matadores: ieri ti ho detto che l'argomento non è roba da supporto quindi entra in chat e chiedi li
[08:38] <akis24> !chat | matadores
[08:38] <ubot-it> matadores: per qualsiasi argomento non inerente strettamente il supporto a ubuntu, /join #ubuntu-it-chat
[08:38] <matadores> potrebbe essere un problema visto che ora essiste un account ampps anche sul pc?
[08:39] <matadores> ok
[08:42] <jester-> Guest90321: meglio tenere la milf o piare la 18enne
[08:42] <jester-> va a gusti e a esegenze relative all'uso del sistema
[10:19] <matadores> come si fa a vedere quali porte sono aperte in ubuntu e come si aprono?
[10:19] <matadores> sul modem so farlo
[10:23] <jester-> matadores: le porte sono tutte aperte se non hai installato un firewall, devi settare il firewall del router
[10:23] <jester-> in lan sono tutt comunque a perte
[10:23] <matadores> io uso sempre wirless
[10:24] <jester-> centra na sega la wifil lan = rete locale
[10:24] <matadores> e uso linkem
[10:24] <jester-> per internet il router, di solito ha un firewall che settato secondo le esigenze
[10:24] <jester-> che va
[10:27] <matadores> jester visto che sull'altra char mi hai detto che ci sono o ci faccio ti chiedo la gentilezza di non rispondermi proprio
[10:30] <jester-> matadores: mi sa che ci fai. è un buon viatico per essere bannato
[10:31] <jester-> !troll | matadores
[10:31] <ubot-it> matadores: Trollare è un comportamento considerato fastidioso dagli altri utenti del canale. Questo include andare offtopic o chiedere la stessa cosa piu volte ottenendo risposte ma non considerarle, e questi non sono i soli comportamenti che possono essere considerati da troll. Per favore leggi /msg ubot-it irc - se questo riguarda te, potresti ritrovarti fuori dal canale.
[10:33] <matadores> non sto trollando
[10:35] <jester-> allora adeguati alle regole del canale e non sindacare at minchiam
[10:36] <jester-> !irc | matadores
[10:36] <ubot-it> matadores: leggi le Linee Guida del canale su http://wiki.ubuntu-it.org/GruppoIrc/LineeGuida
[11:21] <ciao> Salve, volevo installare ubuntu 64 bit
[11:21] <ciao> ho scaricato la versione
[11:22] <ciao> masterizzata sul dvd-r, parte mi dice start, iserisco la password e mi apre ubuntu software
[11:22] <jester-> ciao: sicuro che hai preso ubuntu? non esiste un pass installando
[11:23] <jester-> !installazion | ciao
[11:23] <ubot-it> Voce non trovata: 'installazion'
[11:23] <jester-> !installazione | ciao
[11:23] <ubot-it> ciao: http://wiki.ubuntu-it.org/Installazione | Per installazione grafica http://wiki.ubuntu-it.org/Installazione/Grafica | Si consiglia la visione della guida ufficiale in inglese http://www.ubuntu.com/desktop/get-ubuntu/download
[11:23] <ciao> forse per avviare le modifiche del cd
[11:24] <ciao> come quando installo un programma
[11:24] <jester-> ciao: ma dopo aver sritto la iso sul dvd che fai?
[11:26] <ciao> una volta masterizzato l'ho rimesso dentro ed è partito da solo
[11:26] <jester-> ciao: leggi la guida che devi fare il boot da cdrom
[11:28] <ciao> ok grazie
[12:12] <ManuelLinux> salve, devo installare due programmi che non trovo su linux, è per il sistema operativo apple, esiste un emulatore? grazie
[12:20] <bip> !chat | ManuelLinux
[12:20] <ubot-it> ManuelLinux: per qualsiasi argomento non inerente strettamente il supporto a ubuntu, /join #ubuntu-it-chat
[12:22] <Fabrizio_2> Giorno a tutti. Ho mun
[12:23] <Fabrizio_2> Giorno a tutti. Ho un PC con 2 schede ethernet. Vorrei bloccare la connessione al suddetto PC da molti Indirizzi IP Va bene se uso questa riga di comando ? Iptables -A INPUT -s --source 192.168.1.1 -j DROP
[12:23] <Fabrizio_2> 192.168.1.1 è uno degli indirizzi :)
[12:24] <davegarath> Fabrizio_2: in generale la regola va bene ma puoi fare il contrario. decidere la lista degli ip dai quali vuoi abilitare l'accesso e mettere la policy a drop
[12:25] <Fabrizio_2> davegarath: Quindi escludere tutti tranne quelli che voglio.
[12:25] <davegarath> Fabrizio_2: togli il --source , il -s è sufficiente
[12:26] <davegarath> Fabrizio_2: puoi fare una cosa di questo tipo : iptables -A INPUT -m state --state ESTABLISHED,RELATED -j ACCEPT che è fondamentale
[12:27] <davegarath> Fabrizio_2: poi aggiungi gli ip che ti interessano ( magari specificando anche il protocollo ) es: iptables -A INPUT -s 192.168.1.2 -j ACCEPT oppure per far accedere via ssh: iptables -A INPUT -s 192.168.1.2 -p tcp --dport 22 -j ACCEPT
[12:27] <davegarath> Fabrizio_2: quando hai finito la tua lista metti : iptables -P INPUT DROP
[12:27] <Fabrizio_2> Io sto accedendo tramite ssh al server. non è che mi chiudo fuori?
[12:28] <Fabrizio_2> ha, no ok. capito
[12:28] <davegarath> Fabrizio_2: assolutamente sì devi assicurarti di mettere come prima regola l'ip dal quale accedi
[12:28] <Fabrizio_2> davegarath: e per uiltima la DROP
[12:28] <davegarath> Fabrizio_2: chiavarsi fuori da un firewall con una policy DROP è un errore comune ;) bisogna fare attenzione
[12:29] <davegarath> Fabrizio_2: sì iptables legge le regole dall'alto in basso. se non matcha nessuna regola segue quello che c'è in policy
[12:29] <Fabrizio_2> davegarath: Gia fatto una volta :) E visto che la lista è lunga, devo inserirla a mano, oppure esiste il modo di fargli leggere un file con gli indirizzi?
[12:30] <davegarath> Fabrizio_2: a manina :) oppure fai un ciclo es : for i in $( seq 10 20 ) ; do iptables -A INPUT -s 192.168.1.$i -j ACCEPT ; done . questo abilita gli ip da 10 a 20
[12:31] <Fabrizio_2> davegarath: Se poi i client dovessero avere un Dominio, cambia qualcosa?
[12:32] <davegarath> Fabrizio_2: non mi è molto chiara la domanda :) stiamo parlando delle regole per gestire l'accesso al firewall...
[12:33] <krabador> Dany__________, http://releases.ubuntu.com/15.04/
[12:33] <davegarath> Fabrizio_2: se invece stai parlando di regole che devono andare da un rete all'altra passando dal firewall il discorso cambia devi lavorare sulla chain FORWARD
[12:34] <Dany__________> grazie krabador
[12:34] <Fabrizio_2> davegarath: Il PC e' usato come gateway per internet. Forrei che accedessero ad internet solo i PC con IP da 1 a 9
[12:35] <Fabrizio_2> davegarath: devo sostituire FORWARD a INPUT quindi
[12:35] <nonriescoadinsta> salve, qualcunx mi aiuta ad installare ubuntu
[12:35] <nonriescoadinsta> non riesco
[12:35] <davegarath> Fabrizio_2: sì esatto
[12:35] <krabador> nonriescoadinsta, descrivi il problema
[12:36] <Fabrizio_2> davegarath: OK. Provo. Se mi taglio vuori, mi metto a piangere :). Per salvare le regole poi IPtables-persistent. Giusto?
[12:36] <nonriescoadinsta> grz 1) ho scaricato il programma e l ho salvato su un usb, penso di aver eseguito anche bene la formatazione della usb
[12:36] <Dany__________> krabador: posso usare questo download per pendrive?
[12:36] <nonriescoadinsta> poi provo ad installare e quando si sta caricando il programma
[12:36] <krabador> Dany__________, è per tutto
[12:36] <nonriescoadinsta> compare un messaggio
[12:36] <nonriescoadinsta> tipo
[12:36] <Dany__________> grazie
[12:37] <nonriescoadinsta> error iso
[12:37] <krabador> !usbwin | nonriescoadinsta
[12:37] <ubot-it> nonriescoadinsta: Scarica Universal USB Installer: http://www.pendrivelinux.com/universal-usb-installer-easy-as-1-2-3/ | Installalo su Windows e lancialo: lui si occuperà di trasferire l'immagine ISO su USB. Guida: http://www.ubuntu.com/download/desktop/create-a-usb-stick-on-windows | Opzionalmente questo programma può anche scaricare lui stesso l'immagine ISO
[12:37] <krabador> usa questo per fare la pendrive
[12:37] <krabador> formatta la pendrive
[12:37] <krabador> ed usa questo programma
[12:37] <davegarath> Fabrizio_2: la regola sarà qualcosa tipo iptables -A FORWARD -m iprange --src-range 192.168.1.1-192.168.1.9 -j ACCEPT
[12:38] <nonriescoadinsta> si si
[12:38] <nonriescoadinsta> ho seguito tutto quanto
[12:38] <nonriescoadinsta> dagli stessi links
[12:38] <davegarath> Fabrizio_2: poi metti la regola iptables -A FORWARD -m state --state ESTABLISHED,RELATED -j ACCEPT
[12:38] <davegarath> Fabrizio_2: e poi metti la policy a drop: iptables -P FORWARD -j DROP
[12:38] <nonriescoadinsta> se provo a lanciare il programma dalla usb, mi fa spegnere il computer...e quando si riavvia non sucede nulla
[12:39] <Fabrizio_2> davegarath: provo a scrivere tutto e poi posto su pastebin in modo da non fare cavolate :)
[12:39] <krabador> nonriescoadinsta, quando mandi la pendrive in boot, hai http://i.stack.imgur.com/GtEi5.png questo?
[12:39] <nonriescoadinsta> no
[12:40] <krabador> nonriescoadinsta, cosa hai, nel boot da usb?
[12:40] <nonriescoadinsta> niente
[12:40] <davegarath> Fabrizio_2: apt-get install pastebinit ; poi fai un iptables -L -n -v | pastebinit
[12:40] <krabador> nonriescoadinsta, segnala pc , cpu , ram , scheda video, con modelli precisi
[12:40] <Fabrizio_2> dave ok.
[12:40] <Fabrizio_2> davegarath: ok
[12:45] <nonriescoadinsta> krabador,
[12:46] <krabador> nonriescoadinsta, segnala pc , cpu , ram , scheda video, con modelli precisi
[12:46] <nonriescoadinsta> si, mi ci é voluto per trovarlo
[12:46] <nonriescoadinsta> scusami
[12:46] <nonriescoadinsta> esscomi
[12:47] <nonriescoadinsta> Eee PC, Intel (R) Atom (TM) CPU N270 @ 1.60 GHz 1.60GHz, RAM 2GH
[12:47] <Fabrizio_2> davegarath: http://paste.ubuntu.com/10878372/ non ho ancora messo il drop
[12:48] <krabador> nonriescoadinsta, allora, prova xubuntu o lubuntu , piu' indicate per quel tipo di macchina
[12:48] <nonriescoadinsta> aaaaah
[12:48] <nonriescoadinsta> grazie, ci provo
[12:48] <krabador> nonriescoadinsta, http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/xubuntu/releases/15.04/release/
[12:49] <krabador> nonriescoadinsta, http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/lubuntu/releases/15.04/release/
[12:49] <davegarath> Fabrizio_2: ok questo abilita tutti i protocolli puoi anche andare di fino limitando singoli servizi. ricordati poi di lanciare la save : iptables-save >/etc/iptables/rules.v4
[12:49] <nonriescoadinsta> grz
[12:49] <krabador> nonriescoadinsta, formatti la pendrive e la fai sempre nello stesso modo
[12:49] <krabador> !usbwin | nonriescoadinsta
[12:49] <ubot-it> nonriescoadinsta: Scarica Universal USB Installer: http://www.pendrivelinux.com/universal-usb-installer-easy-as-1-2-3/ | Installalo su Windows e lancialo: lui si occuperà di trasferire l'immagine ISO su USB. Guida: http://www.ubuntu.com/download/desktop/create-a-usb-stick-on-windows | Opzionalmente questo programma può anche scaricare lui stesso l'immagine ISO
[12:50] <Fabrizio_2> davegarath: iptables-persistent non è meglio? vorrei che ricordasse le regole anche in caso di riavvio
[12:51] <davegarath> Fabrizio_2: appunto ma iptables-persistent legge il file /etc/iptables/rules.v4 se aggiugni togli regole a mano poi devi aggiornare il file. non si aggiorna da solo ;)
[12:51] <Fabrizio_2> davegarath: ha. Capito. Grazie mille per la pazienza
[12:52] <b00k3r> giorno
[12:54] <Fabrizio_2> davegarath: Mi da errore sia sulla riga con la DROP che sul save. Ho messo SUDO a inizio riga
[12:54] <davegarath> Fabrizio_2: dammi più info, metti su paste quello che stai facendo
[12:56] <Fabrizio_2> davegarath: http://paste.ubuntu.com/10878419/
[12:57] <davegarath> Fabrizio_2: iptables -P FORWARD DROP colpa mia mi è scappato prima un -j di troppo
[12:58] <davegarath> Fabrizio_2: se usi sudo devi fare una cosa tipo : sudo iptables-save | sudo tee /etc/iptables/rules.v4
[12:59] <Fabrizio_2> davegarath: e senza sudo mi da errore di accesso.
[13:00] <Dany__> con chrome non riesco a scaricare, mi chiude il browswer
[13:00] <davegarath> Fabrizio_2: hai fatto la riga con il sudo tee ? la redirezione esce dal sudo e torna ad usare le permission dell'utente che non può scrivere in etc per questo lo mettiamo in pipe a tee
[13:01] <Fabrizio_2> davegarath: Ok. fatto. Ora lo ha accettato. La prossima volta faccio tutto come SU
[13:14] <Dany__> krabador: nulla da fare non scarica il download, un errore chiude il broswer
[13:15] <Dany__> non c'è nessuno?
[13:25] <Aprilia> Salve
[13:25] <Aprilia> https://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/oyZawlzB/IMG_0360.JPG
[13:26] <Aprilia> Qlc1 me lo può spiegare?
[14:04] <Carlin0> Aprilia, hai una scheda video NVIdia ?
[14:05] <Aprilia> È una scheda video integrata, ora non ti so dire se è nvidia o meno
[14:06] <Carlin0> Aprilia, ora sei connesso da quel pc ?
[14:06] <Aprilia> Ora sto reinstallando, sperando solo che fosse solo una falla di installazione.
[14:06] <Carlin0> sei da live ?
[14:07] <Carlin0> se è quello che penso io il problema si riproporrà
[14:07] <Aprilia> Carlin0: sono alle prime mani con ubuntu :P
[14:07] <Carlin0> Aprilia, ora sei conesso da quel pc ?
[14:07] <Aprilia> Specifica live
[14:08] <Aprilia> Carlin0: ora ti parlo da mobile
[14:08] <Aprilia> Sta finendo l installazione
[14:08] <Carlin0> quando hai finito di installare entra da quel pc
[14:09] <Aprilia> Ok
[14:09] <Aprilia> Il bello che come facevo prima, quando inserivo la pass mi si blocca tutto anche il puntatore
[14:10] <Carlin0> probabile che si tratti del bug dei driver nouveau , che si aggira facilmente installando i driver proprietari
[14:10] <Carlin0> ed esce quella schermata a bande trasversali
[14:11] <Aprilia> Prima di fare la primissima installazione avevo la scheda video pci della ati
[14:11] <Aprilia> Ma dopo durante il setup mi uscivano i quadratini a random
[14:19] <Fuxia> Ciao. Come faccio ad installare Silverlight su ubuntu 14.10? Ho wine ma non riesco a farlo funzionare...
[14:23] <Carlin0> Fuxia, non tutto gira su wine
[14:25] <Carlin0> Fuxia, qui sono elencate le applicazioni compatibili → https://www.winehq.org/
[14:25] <Aprilia> Carlin0:sono appena entrato su ubuntu, ho messo la password mi ha caricato l interfaccia e ora è tutto bloccato
[14:26] <krabador> Dany__, apri il terminale, lancia il browser da li, prova a scaricare, e vedi cosa dice il terminale se dovesse chiudersi il browser
[14:29] <Fuxia> Quindi, cosa uso invece di silverlight?
[14:29] <Carlin0> Aprilia, ma prima di installare hai controllato che il pc avesse i requisiti hardware ?
[14:29] <Carlin0> !requisiti | Aprilia
[14:29] <ubot-it> Aprilia: requisiti is http://wiki.ubuntu-it.org/Installazione/RequisitiDiSistema
[14:29] <Aprilia> Carlin0: non è un po' del 800 :/
[14:30] <Carlin0> Aprilia, riesci ad avviare in recovery mode ?
[14:30] <krabador> Fuxia, http://wiki.ubuntu-it.org/InternetRete/Navigazione/Pipelight
[14:30] <Aprilia> Carlin0: se mi dici come, ci provo
[14:31] <Carlin0> Aprilia, all'avvio devi scegliere la 2° voce de menù di grub
[14:32] <Aprilia> Si sono nel gnu grub
[14:32] <Carlin0> la seconda voce cosa dice ?
[14:32] <Aprilia> Opzioni avanzate
[14:32] <krabador> Aprilia, cpu / ram / scheda video , del pc ?
[14:32] <Carlin0> ecco scegli quella ...
[14:32] <Carlin0> krabador, non le sa :P
[14:33] <Carlin0> sopratutto la scheda video
[14:33] <Aprilia> krabador: non lo ho con me ora, ma comunque se ricordo bene 2.60 2gb
[14:33] <Carlin0> sembra tanto il bug de nouveau
[14:33] <Aprilia> Carlin0: ora ho 2 diciture
[14:33] <Carlin0> la 2° ?
[14:33] <Aprilia> Ricovero mode
[14:34] <Aprilia> Recovery*
[14:34] <Carlin0> scegli quella
[14:34] <Aprilia> amen, sta processando
[14:34] <Aprilia> Ho il menù ripristino
[14:35] <Carlin0> krabador, <Aprilia> https://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/oyZawlzB/IMG_0360.JPG
[14:35] <krabador> potrebbe anche essere vram andata
[14:35] <Carlin0> bhe mo vediamo che scheda video ha
[14:36] <Aprilia> Sto nel menù ripristino
[14:36] <Carlin0> scegli root Aprilia
[14:36] <Aprilia> Ok, ci sono
[14:36] <krabador> Aprilia, è connesso col cavo?
[14:36] <Aprilia> No
[14:36] <Aprilia> Wi-Fi belkin
[14:37] <Carlin0> dai questo comando lshw -C video
[14:37] <Carlin0> poi fai una bella foto e ce la fai vedere
[14:37] <Fuxia> Grazie.
[14:38] <Aprilia> https://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/bC2EX1xu/1429886277.JPG
[14:38] <Aprilia> È un nvidia ahhahahah
[14:38] <Aprilia> Me possino sparare!!!
[14:38] <krabador> Aprilia, scrivi exit
[14:38] <krabador> invio
[14:38] <krabador> seleziona networkin
[14:39] <krabador> se non da errori torna in root , sudo apt-get install nvidia-304
[14:39] <Aprilia> Parla del filesystem...continuo ?
[14:39] <krabador> si
[14:39] <Carlin0> hai la stessa mia scheda video
[14:39] <krabador> nouveau per quelle, da parecchi problemi
[14:40] <Carlin0> e lo so...
[14:40] <Aprilia> https://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/5Aaj9qs8/1429886412.JPG
[14:41] <krabador> Aprilia, procurati un cavo
[14:41] <Carlin0> Aprilia, non riesci a collegare col cavo ?
[14:41] <krabador> e riavvia la recovery con il cavo
[14:41] <Aprilia> Mi volete dannare!! :/
[14:41] <krabador> le wireless possono non andare , per questo il recovery si usa con cavo
[14:41] <Aprilia> Ho l hub a 40 metri da me!!
[14:42] <krabador> Aprilia, in boot, ctrl alt f1 , al blocco, non fanno niente?
[14:42] <Aprilia> In shell da user non porlo farlo?
[14:42] <Aprilia> Si ci posso arrivare
[14:42] <Aprilia> Ma non mi fa la password per il root
[14:43] <Aprilia> E anche questo non riesco a capire
[14:43] <krabador> Aprilia, la pass è quella che hai inserito in installazione
[14:43] <Carlin0> Aprilia, root è disabilitato di default su ubuntu
[14:43] <krabador> Aprilia, facendo attenzione a minuscole e maiuscole
[14:43] <Aprilia> Mi da autenticazione non riuscita ....
[14:44] <Aprilia> E sono solo 5 lettere!!!
[14:45] <krabador> controlla maiuscole e minuscole
[14:45] <Aprilia> Già controllato e ricontrollato un bel po' di volte
[14:45] <Carlin0> occhio che da console la tastiera è molto + sensibile
[14:45] <krabador> se ci sono caratteri speciali, verifica di non avere la tastiera in un altra localizione
[14:46] <krabador> Aprilia, hai scritto correttamente lo user name?
[14:46] <Aprilia> Certo
[14:46] <Aprilia> Ma in user ci sono!
[14:46] <Aprilia> E in root che non fa andare
[14:46] <Carlin0> allora sei a posto
[14:46] <Carlin0> fai sudo -i
[14:46] <Carlin0> Aprilia, root è disabilitato di default su ubuntu
[14:47] <Aprilia> Amen!! È andato
[14:47] <Aprilia> Sto facendo installazione nvidia-304
[14:47] <krabador> sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade & sudo apt-get install nvidia-304
[14:47] <krabador> ok
[14:47] <krabador> quando ha finito riavvia
[14:47] <Carlin0> reboot
[14:48] <Aprilia> Se funge tutto vi offro un caffè
[14:48] <Carlin0> mi rende nervoso :P
[14:48] <Carlin0> certo che funge Aprilia
[14:49] <Aprilia> Allora a te dec :P
[14:49] <krabador> Aprilia, se la videocard non è andata, funge
[14:49] <Carlin0> ho la stessa scheda la 6150 è integrata in una mobo gigabit
[14:50] <krabador> quella generazione di integrate, col passare del tempo , un uso discretamente intenso, ed una scarsa manutenzione, tendono a dissaldarsi
[14:50] <Carlin0> HexChat: 2.10.1 ** OS: Linux 3.16.0-4-686-pae i686 ** Distro: Debian 8.0 ** CPU: 2 x AMD Athlon(tm) X2 250 Processor (AuthenticAMD) @ 800MHz ** RAM: Physical: 2,9GiB, 87,1% free ** Disk: Total: 545,5GiB, 57,6% free ** VGA: NVIDIA Corporation C61 [GeForce 6150SE nForce 430] ** Sound: HDA-Intel - HDA NVidia ** Ethernet: None found ** Uptime: 53m 37s **
[14:50] <Aprilia> Sennò mi ritocca mettere la scheda video dedicata ati
[14:50] <Aprilia> E scaricare i driver per quello
[14:50] <Carlin0> ma va
[14:52] <Carlin0> le ati vanno bene coi driver open cmq
[14:52] <Carlin0> non danno problemi come le nvidia
[14:52] <krabador> Aprilia, le ati vanno benissimo con gli open
[14:52] <krabador> e possono far tribolare un po' con i catalyst
[14:52] <krabador> al contrario le nvidia
[14:53] <krabador> Aprilia, che scheda ati è?
[14:53] <Aprilia> Beh quando ho provato a fare installazione mi so trovato lo skermo a quadratini
[14:53] <Aprilia> Hd 6570
[14:53] <Aprilia> Sapphire
[14:54] <krabador> Aprilia, ci sono dei parametri che si possono inserire
[14:55] <Aprilia> Ma se non me la fatto neanche visualizzare il setup come li inserivo :/
[14:56] <Carlin0> magari le 2 schede andavano in conflitto
[14:56] <Carlin0> il so non sceglieva quale utilizzare
[14:56] <krabador> Aprilia, si al boot
[14:57] <krabador> *si inseriscono al boot
[14:57] <krabador> e si, sempre dopo aver controllato se in bios c'erano opzioni a riguardo
[14:58] <krabador> alcuni bios, sono impostati che nel rilevare la pci-e , fanno usare quella di default
[14:58] <krabador> alcuni hanno voci a riguardo
[14:58] <Aprilia> Non lo sapevo
[14:58] <Aprilia> Come ho detto a Carlin0, sono alle prime armi
[14:59] <krabador> se l'avessi saputo, saresti qui?
[14:59] <Aprilia> No
[14:59] <Carlin0> Aprilia, anche io sono alle prime armi ... tranqui
[14:59] <krabador> si, ha un kalashnikov da una settimana
[15:00] <Carlin0> lo sto ancora oliando
[15:04] <Aprilia> Ok update e quant'altro finitone fato il reboot
[15:04] <Aprilia> Maremma bucaiola
[15:05] <Aprilia> Ora si che si ragiona
[15:05] <krabador> funza?
[15:05] <Aprilia> Grazie ragazzi
[15:05] <Carlin0> funziona ? bene
[15:05] <Aprilia> Avoja
[15:05] <krabador> bene bischerone , divertiti
[15:05] <pandino95> ho un problema, ho installato prima ubuntu 64 bit adesso devo trovare un driver per la mia stampante laser canon LBP 7680cx
[15:06] <Aprilia> Grazie ancora!
[15:06] <krabador> ma de nada, torna quando vuoi
[15:10] <pandino95> ho un problema, ho installato ubuntu 64 bit adesso devo trovare un driver per la mia stampante laser canon LBP 7680cx
[15:12] <krabador> pandino95, http://www.canon.it/support/consumer_products/products/printers/laser/i-sensys_lbp7680cx.aspx
[15:13] <krabador> scegli linux 64 , e scarica il deb
[15:13] <pandino95> ho provato ma dentro la cartella ci sono mille robe e non so qual'è il file di installazione
[15:14] <krabador> hai scaricato il deb?
[15:14] <pandino95> cosa sarebbe?
[15:14] <krabador> i pacchetti che usa ubuntu
[15:15] <krabador> guarda bene nella lista dei download disponibili
[15:15] <pandino95> si si ancora prima allira
[15:16] <Dany__> krabador sono più volte che provo a scaricare ubuntu, ma si interrompe la connessione del broswer
[15:16] <krabador> Dany__, ti ho scritto prima, hai letto?
[15:16] <Dany__> no
Dany__, apri il terminale, lancia il browser da li, prova a scaricare, e vedi cosa dice il terminale se dovesse chiudersi il browser
[15:17] <Dany__> grazie
[15:17] <krabador> 50 min fa
[15:20] <harminuriel> buongiorno, chi ha esperienza con Orca? Vorrei usare le voci Mbrola al posto di quelle predefinite per lo screen reader, ma non ci riesco
[15:22] <akis24> sera
[15:43] <Massimo> ciao
[15:44] <Guest3465> Ciao,qualcuno ha avuto problemi con l'upgrade 15.04?
[15:44] <pandino95> ho installatyo idriver ma la stampante non parte
[15:46] <jester-> pandino95: provato a rimuovere e a reinstallarla?
[15:46] <jester-> Guest3465: che problema hai
[15:46] <pandino95> come?
[15:46] <Guest3465> ho fatto l'upgrad su 2 pc portatili,il primo non ha dato problemi (Toshiba Satellite pro) mentre il secondo un Samsung nb 30 non riesce a partire
[15:47] <pandino95> ho solo provato a installare i drivers
[15:47] <jester-> pandino95: impostazioni sistema stampanti
[15:47] <jester-> se non la installi è come se non ci fosse
[15:47] <jester-> Guest3465: hai ppa ?
[15:47] <pandino95> ma tra la ricerca del tipo di stampante non ce la mia
[15:48] <Guest3465> ppa?
[15:48] <pandino95> ho una canon
[15:48] <jester-> pandino95: allora il driver è sbagliato o non installato correttamente, che stampante è
[15:48] <Guest3465> provo a scaricar su dvd reinstallo
[15:48] <pandino95> LBP 7680CX
[15:48] <pandino95> canon
[15:49] <jester-> Guest3465: sei sul pc in questione?
[15:49] <pandino95> si
[15:49] <Guest3465> no su quello funzionante
[15:50] <jester-> Guest3465: da terminale sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade poi sudo update-manager -d
[15:50] <Guest3465> non riesco ad aprir niente
[15:51] <jester-> pandino95: come li hai installati i driver e dove li hai presi
[15:51] <jester-> Guest3465: allora piu che non partito l,avanzamento si è incrocchiato
[15:52] <Guest3465> la schermata col mio nome e accedi e 2 possibilità accedere con grub/cairo oppure con ubuntu (predefinito) ma in entrambi i casi non riesce a bootare
[15:52] <jester-> !ripristino | Guest3465
[15:52] <ubot-it> Guest3465: Per ripristinare un sistema danneggiato: http://wiki.ubuntu-it.org/Installazione/RipristinoInstallazione
[15:52] <Guest3465> ok grazie mille ci butto un occhio
[15:53] <jester-> Guest3465: logico che devi fare con usb o dvd 15.04
[15:53] <Guest3465> la sto già scaricando dal pc sano...
[15:53] <Guest3465> e provo a farlo ripartire tramite dvd
[15:54] <Guest3465> che tu sappia è già successo ad altri?
[15:54] <jester-> Guest3465: si ma di solito è la presenza di ppa
[15:55] <Guest3465> cmq strano su questo pc Samsung si sono susseguite le versioni dal 11.10 fino ad oggi snza mai un problema
[15:56] <jester-> Guest3465: non è che hai finito lo spazio su disco? servono un po di giga liberi almeno 5
[15:57] <Guest3465> praticamente disco libero
[15:58] <Guest3465> 10 minuti e finisco di scaricare,masterizzo e riprovo a installare
[15:59] <Guest3465> Jester ti ringrazio riprovo e se ho di nuovo qualche problema rientro
[16:00] <Dany__> krabador:anche con il terminale si è disconnesso chrome, e non c'è nessun messaggio in quanto non trova soluzione per il problema
[16:00] <krabador> Dany__, che sistema stai usando?
[16:00] <jester-> ezioxx
[16:01] <Dany__> windows 7
[16:02] <krabador> Dany__, prova ad usare firefox
[16:02] <Dany__> provato
[16:02] <Dany__> anche con firefox si disconnette
[16:02] <krabador> Dany__, non è un problema del sito, o del download, ma del tuo sistema win
[16:03] <Dany__> quindi cosa dovrei fare?
[16:03] <krabador> quando ti è stato detto <krabador> Dany__, apri il terminale, lancia il browser da li, prova a scaricare, e vedi cosa dice il terminale se dovesse chiudersi il browser
[16:03] <krabador> che cosa hai fatto?
[16:04] <Dany__> l'ho fatto
[16:04] <Dany__> esegui
[16:04] <Dany__> ho scritto chrome e sono partita di li
[16:05] <krabador> Dany__, verifica che il pc abbia sufficiente spazio su disco
[16:05] <Dany__> si è disconnesso è comparsa una mascherina cercando di trovare il problema e non ha rilevato nulla
[16:05] <Dany__> si lo ha
[16:06] <krabador> Dany__, cancella in firefox/chrome i dati di navigazione
[16:06] <Dany__> ok
[16:06] <Dany__> provo
[16:06] <krabador> Dany__, verifica che entrambi siano aggiornati
[16:06] <Dany__> si
[16:10] <Dany__> krabador: chrome è aggiornato firefox invece lo ho aggiornato ora
[16:13] <krabador> riavvia firefox e prova con il download , se continuano a crashare entrambi , puoi solo provare a cancellare le cartelle profili e/o reinstallarli
[16:13] <jester-> usare explorer?
[16:14] <jester-> ultime versioni sono a posto
[16:14] <Dany__> ok fatto krabador
[16:14] <Dany__> grazie mille
[16:15] <krabador> Dany__, perfetto una volta scaricato il file , usa questo programma
[16:15] <krabador> !usbwin | Dany__
[16:15] <ubot-it> Dany__: Scarica Universal USB Installer: http://www.pendrivelinux.com/universal-usb-installer-easy-as-1-2-3/ | Installalo su Windows e lancialo: lui si occuperà di trasferire l'immagine ISO su USB. Guida: http://www.ubuntu.com/download/desktop/create-a-usb-stick-on-windows | Opzionalmente questo programma può anche scaricare lui stesso l'immagine ISO
[16:15] <krabador> per fare una pendrive
[16:15] <krabador> o segui questo
[16:15] <krabador> !iso | Dany__
[16:15] <ubot-it> Dany__: http://wiki.ubuntu-it.org/Hardware/DispositiviPartizioni/MasterizzareIso
[16:15] <krabador> per la masterizzazione
[16:16] <Dany__> leggevo che c'è un programmino per trasferire il file iso su pendrive
[16:17] <jester-> !usbwin | Dany__
[16:17] <ubot-it> Dany__: Scarica Universal USB Installer: http://www.pendrivelinux.com/universal-usb-installer-easy-as-1-2-3/ | Installalo su Windows e lancialo: lui si occuperà di trasferire l'immagine ISO su USB. Guida: http://www.ubuntu.com/download/desktop/create-a-usb-stick-on-windows | Opzionalmente questo programma può anche scaricare lui stesso l'immagine ISO
[16:18] <Dany__> ok
[16:18] <Dany__> grazie
[16:22] <matadores> buona sera
[16:23] <matadores> mi linkate la chat dove si chiede aiuto ma non di programmi di ubuntu?
[16:23] <matadores> per favore
[16:23] <jester-> !chat
[16:23] <ubot-it> per qualsiasi argomento non inerente strettamente il supporto a ubuntu, /join #ubuntu-it-chat
[16:24] <matadores> grazie
[16:24] <bipp> Ciao :)
[17:31] <FreeWolF> ciao
[17:34] <davegarath> il mio alsamixer non si ricorda le impostazioni :) lancio sudo alsactl store ma al riavvio ho sempre il volume a zero al reboot. sbaglio comando ?
[17:35] <jester-> davegarath: alza ed esci con esc
[17:35] <jester-> non hai icona audio nella barra?
[17:35] <davegarath> jester-: fatto fino al reboot si tiene l'impostazione ma dopo torna a 0
[17:35] <davegarath> jester-: sì
[17:35] <jester-> regolato da li fa uguale?
[17:36] <davegarath> jester-: da lì controllo il canale master mentre mi si azzera il canale speaker
[17:36] <davegarath> jester-: se questo è a 0 non sento una cippa
[17:37] <jester-> pulseaudio installato?
[17:37] <jester-> davegarath: nell'icona puoi scegliere le uscite
[17:37] <davegarath> jester-: sì pulseaudio installato
[17:37] <jester-> basta impostare
[17:37] <jester-> davegarath: installa pavucontrol e prova a regolare da li
[17:38] <davegarath> ehm uso ubutu 14.04 unity ma non trovo dove posso settare il canale dall'icona
[17:39] <jester-> davegarath: non so in kde si fa destro su icona-->seleziona canale principale
[18:45] <Dany__> Buona sera
[18:45] <Dany__> krabador: ci sei?
[19:37] <krabador> Dany__, che è successo
[19:45] <ajeje> buonasera ho un problema nell'installazione di ubuntu su macbook
[19:45] <ajeje> essenzialmente dopo aver creato la partizione
[19:46] <ajeje> all'atto di instalalre ubuntu non ho l'opzione "installa accanto MACOSX"
[20:00] <matadores> buona sera
[20:01] <matadores> ho visto che si può cambiare il tema a ubuntu gentilmente potreste darmi il link dove scaricare ?
[20:30] <Dany__> krabador: avevi ragione è il mio window che non scarica ubuntu, ho fatto tutto con il portatile e finalmente ubuntu va bene
[20:30] <krabador> bene
[20:30] <Dany__> vorrei riuscire a capire perchè il mio window non lo scarica
[20:32] <krabador> Dany__, apri sempre chrome/firefox , prova a scaricare altri file, di una certa grandezza
[20:32] <krabador> vedi cosa succede
[20:32] <Dany__> ok
[20:40] <emlu015> salve a tutti del gruppo ubuntu italia
[20:40] <emlu015> sono qui per complimentarvi con voi per la nuova distro
[20:40] <Carlin0> !chat | emlu015
[20:40] <ubot-it> emlu015: per qualsiasi argomento non inerente strettamente il supporto a ubuntu, /join #ubuntu-it-chat
[20:40] <emlu015> era una mia curiosità sapere secondo voi su una macchina con soli 512 di ram scheda video intendo come si comporterebbe
[20:40] <emlu015> ???
[20:41] <Carlin0> emlu015, che cpu ?
[20:41] <emlu015> perchè sul mio pc con questo tipo di scheda video ho dei problemi se potete aiutarmi
[20:41] <emlu015> 2*2,40ghz
[20:45] <emlu015> toshiba satellite l655 del novembre 2010 ram 4 giga due blocchi da 2 giga l'uno schermo 15,6 pollici hardisk da 500 giga scheda video peccato carlino che mi sai dire
[20:45] <emlu015> vedi che ancora no l'ho installato ubuntu e poi sto usando la versione a 64 bit che forse e pure troppo che dici te
[20:46] <krabador> emlu015, apri il terminale
[20:46] <krabador> sudo lshw -C video
[20:47] <emlu015> da live no terminale
[20:47] <cristian_c> Paradisee, hai risolto il problema delle uscite video?
[20:47] <Paradisee> no
[20:48] <krabador> emlu015, da live, c'è il terminale
[20:55] <emlu015> mi dice f12 error krabador e mi riavvia il sistema perchè ??
[21:00] <emlu015> vabbe io vado a dormire a domani
[21:15] <Dany__> krabador: ho fatto pulizia con adwcleaner, quindi ho provato a scaricare di nuovo ubuntu, download completato, grazie mille per tutto :)
[21:17] <krabador> Di niente, per quanto riguarda ubuntu, puoi entrare qui per questioni di assistenza tecnica
[21:17] <Dany__> ok grazie
[21:40] <matadores> !cat
[21:40] <ubot-it> Voce non trovata: 'cat'
[21:40] <matadores> !chat
[21:40] <ubot-it> per qualsiasi argomento non inerente strettamente il supporto a ubuntu, /join #ubuntu-it-chat
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2015-04-24-#ubuntu-es
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[00:22] <user-iphone-esta> hola a todos!!
[00:22] <user-iphone-esta> sabeis si es necesario instalar los PPA de nmap para el sistema ubuntu LTS
[00:23] <user-iphone-esta> o con un sudo apt-get install nmap , es suficiente?
[00:23] <ghytr> nada para gnu/linux
[00:27] <user-iphone-esta> perdona?
[00:34] <ghytr> estas perdoao
[03:06] <roger_35> :)
[07:23] * merrick saluda
[12:40] <Galico> buenas. Utilizo Kubuntu. Al actualizar me ha dado un problema con las "dead keys". La cosa es que en los navegadores mozilla firefox y chromium, en el thunderbird y en el libreoffice, cuando intento poner algun acento me lo pone asi:
[12:40] <Galico> El le´on se fue a Andaluc´ia
[12:40] <Galico> alguien sabe como puedo solucionarlo?
[12:40] <Galico> o me puede dar alguna pista donde mirar?
[12:41] <Galico> ah, en cambio con otros programas como krunne, kate, quassel... me lo escribe bien
[16:12] <GatoLoko> esta por aqui el editor del articulo de ubuntu en la wikipedia? tiene fallos
[16:13] <GatoLoko> dice que el soporte de la 14.10 acaba este mes, cuando en realidad dura hasta julio
[17:05] <cousteau> GatoLoko, estás seguro? si es así cámbialo
[17:05] <cousteau> (...sí, si no recuerdo mal son 9 meses)
[17:06] <GatoLoko> cousteau nunca he intentado editar la wikipedia, pero es de suponer que requiere registro
[17:06] <cousteau> y seguro que no dice que este mes deja de ser "la versión actualizada"?
[17:06] <GatoLoko> y no voy a registrarme para una sola vez
[17:06] <cousteau> GatoLoko, pues supones mal :)
[17:07] <GatoLoko> mira la tabla
[17:07] <cousteau> cualquiera puede editar
[17:07] <cousteau> a menos que el artículo esté protegido... en cuyo caso nadie puede editar
[17:07] <GatoLoko> https://es.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ubuntu <--- mas o menos a un tercio del articulo esta la tabla
[17:08] <GatoLoko> Utopic Unicorn 23/octubre/201467 abril/2015
[17:08] <GatoLoko> de octubre a abril no van 9 meses
[17:08] <cousteau> http://es.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Ubuntu&action=edit§ion=10
[17:08] <cousteau> en ese enlace puedes editar
[17:10] <cousteau> sí, sería julio, igual que la 13.10 (a menos que hayan cambiado algo)
[17:12] <cousteau> GatoLoko, puedes editar sin estar registrado
[17:12] <GatoLoko> ya veo
[17:12] <GatoLoko> acabo de cambiarlo
[17:13] <cousteau> perfect :)
[20:10] <Guest16734> Hola que tiene de nuevo ubuntu 15
[20:25] <successus> salud o/
[21:38] <successus> salud, hasta otro rato o/
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2015-04-24-#juju
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[00:01] <moqq> is there any timeline on the release of 1.23?
[00:01] <jrwren> i thought it was out?
[00:01] <jrwren> i was wrong.
[00:05] <lazyPower> jrwren: its still in devel ppa, close to release however
[00:05] <lazyPower> moqq: I cannot offer a hard ETA - but its rounding the final phase of Q/A and poking, i would imagine we'll see it land next week
[00:06] <moqq> great, thank you
[00:06] <jrwren> lazyPower: that is what confused me.
[00:06] <lazyPower> jrwren: come at me and my actions bro https://github.com/chuckbutler/docker-charm/commit/e72fd0d5b21071806e661b8c0e548884e26d3f60 ;)
[00:07] <jrwren> lazyPower: why me?
[00:07] * jrwren runs away
[00:07] <lazyPower> because I like tormenting you when you're around? :D
[00:07] <jrwren> hahaha. fair!
[00:07] <jrwren> lazyPower: you should see some of the terrible things I've done lately :)
[00:07] * lazyPower eyes narrow
[00:08] <jrwren> lazyPower: foregone logstash-forwarder for beaver, because its easier.
[00:08] <lazyPower> oh yeah?!
[00:08] <lazyPower> bro, we need to talk about logstash server.
[00:08] <lazyPower> I've got a branch thats getting fairly mature, that needs third party eyes
[00:09] <jrwren> lazyPower: we definitely need to talk, because I too have a branch. we need to come together.
[00:09] <lazyPower> are you running my branch for trusty in the UIX prodstack?
[00:09] <lazyPower> or did you fork it and cycle on your own stuff?
[00:09] <jrwren> not yet
[00:09] <jrwren> i forked your branch and hacked it up.
[00:09] <lazyPower> ok, so my thought is this
[00:09] <lazyPower> i just landed a big merge from IS that adds some nice goodies in there
[00:10] <lazyPower> think you can port those to your branch, and we can do a review on tests+polish+actions
[00:10] <jrwren> https://github.com/CanonicalLtd/beaver-charm and https://code.launchpad.net/~evarlast/charms/trusty/logstash/trunk
[00:10] <lazyPower> adn then make a proposal for trusty?
[00:10] <jrwren> I'll take a look.
[00:10] <lazyPower> oh man
[00:10] <lazyPower> you like, neutered half the relations
[00:10] <jrwren> did i?
[00:10] <jrwren> oh yeah.
[00:10] <lazyPower> major rework. remove ampq and redis, add raw tcp
[00:10] <jrwren> we can put those back.
[00:11] <jrwren> running redis server seems overkill.
[00:11] <lazyPower> just add raw tcp, and block config sections with jinja
[00:11] <lazyPower> well, are you running a 30 node cluster?
[00:11] <jrwren> if gonna use redis, shouldn't i use the redis charm?
[00:11] <lazyPower> 30 node cluster + redis queueing = kinda the reference arch for this stack.
[00:11] <lazyPower> we shoudl be yeah
[00:11] <jrwren> I found no evidence of any reference arch for this stack :)
[00:12] <lazyPower> hate me all you want - i got it from here: http://www.logstashbook.com/
[00:12] <jrwren> hey me too!
[00:12] <lazyPower> <3
[00:12] <jrwren> i got the paper copy
[00:12] <jrwren> I'm really impressed with the typesetting.
[00:12] <jrwren> Its really a pleasure to read.
[00:13] <lazyPower> so anywho - if your charm operates more reliably than the franken-java-monster we have now
[00:13] <lazyPower> lets converge on that - get IS to test it in staging and see how it goes
[00:13] <jrwren> yeah, lets do that.
[00:13] <lazyPower> or OIL actually, they would probably be interested in this as well
[00:13] <jrwren> see also, the warning on page 193 :p
[00:15] <lazyPower> I'm in malta starting Sunday - can you feesably look at this sometime in the next 2 weeks? I'll lend some later-workday-hours to pair
[00:15] <lazyPower> after the malta sprint, and we'll go from there
[00:15] <jrwren> that timing matches us reasonably well.
[00:15] <lazyPower> i got poked by IS to get this thing in the CS sooner rather than later, and i'm doing one of these numbers @_@
[00:15] <jrwren> we are JUST getting this into a std. dev env.
[00:15] <jrwren> another week we may have it into our staging env
[00:15] <lazyPower> ok sweet, so timing works then.
[00:16] <lazyPower> Take a look at this MP, and see if this makes sense to you - as this was the big feature branch they wanted landed pre-store-inclusion. http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~lazypower/charms/trusty/logstash/trunk/revision/47
[00:17] <jrwren> ha! ssl
[00:17] <lazyPower> kind of important really :)
[00:17] <jrwren> so... SSL was a reason I went beaver isntead of logstash-forwarder
[00:17] <lazyPower> <3 them for contributing that
[00:17] <jrwren> its entirely unimportant if you aren't accepting logs from outside.
[00:18] <jrwren> all the comms from LS to ES are entirely unencrypted.
[00:18] <jrwren> its faux security
[00:18] <jrwren> and much added complexity
[00:18] <jrwren> but cool that they did it as config.
[00:19] <jrwren> before I gave up on it I was considering self signed generation and serving that to LSF on relation get
[00:19] <lazyPower> there's charmhelpers to take care of SSL generation/consumption
[00:19] <jrwren> nice.
[00:19] <lazyPower> you know about this right?
[00:19] <jrwren> i've not seen that part of helpers
[00:19] <lazyPower> 1 sec, fishing link
[00:20] <jrwren> so far this patch is +10
[00:20] <lazyPower> http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~charm-helpers/charm-helpers/devel/files/head:/charmhelpers/contrib/ssl/
[00:22] <jrwren> very cool.
[00:22] <lazyPower> http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~charmers/charms/trusty/nagios/trunk/revision/12
[00:22] <lazyPower> line88 = consuming of that code, and generating self signed certs
[00:22] <lazyPower> er, line88 of upgrade-charm hook
[00:23] <lazyPower> so those may help you moving forward when you need SSL certs
[00:23] <lazyPower> and you can use self-signed certs
[00:23] <lazyPower> i nkow there are many cases where that ignites fire, and causes headaches. Namely when dealing with anything on the consuming end that expects a valid CA Signed SSL certificate
[00:24] <jrwren> yeah, so that works for that use case.
[00:24] <lazyPower> in term so flogstash - you could push to /usr/local/share/ssl/ca-certificates/ and run update-ca-certificates, and the self signed would no longer raise alarms.
[00:24] <lazyPower> *push the ca cert
[00:25] <lazyPower> and that could be done w/ base64 encoding over a relationship
[00:25] <jrwren> logstash-forwarder has a ca config line
[00:25] <lazyPower> so perfect
[00:25] <jrwren> yes, exactly what I was considering
[00:25] <lazyPower> \o/
[00:25] <jrwren> but now I don't need it :p
[00:25] <lazyPower> i find your lack of encryption disturbing ;)
[00:25] <jrwren> *shrug*
[00:25] <jrwren> i worked at a security company :p
[00:26] <jrwren> it get... complecated.
[00:26] <jrwren> for example, what do you do when you add more units to the logstash service?
[00:27] <lazyPower> in terms of ssl?
[00:28] <lazyPower> the way i see it, you have 2 options. hand over all the keys in a peer relationship and install them or 2) go nuts generating keys and do key management
[00:30] <jrwren> you'll have to do 2
[00:30] <jrwren> because with 1 your CN no longer matches the address to which you are connecting
[00:32] <lazyPower> fair, i had not thought about CN based rejections. Stinking common name validation
[00:34] <jrwren> so you have to use subject alternative names
[00:34] <jrwren> which is not so easy to automate in openssl command lien
[00:35] <jrwren> I would love to see it done :)
[00:35] <jrwren> heck, at that point, someone could write up a very nice "run your own CA" charm :)
[00:37] <jrwren> so all that said, I see great value in both solutions, hence our building of that beaver charm last week.
[00:40] <lazyPower> fair enough - i can see/understand the need to GSD before you tackle the wall
[00:50] <lazyPower> jrwren: i forgot about UOS coming week after the sprint. if we get slammed lets touch base at least and see where we're at in terms of time/exploration.
[00:50] <lazyPower> and with that note, i'm goign to head out for the evening. Cheers o/
[00:51] <jrwren> gnight lazyPower travel safely
[01:03] <moqq> this is correct?: JUJU_DEV_FEATURE_FLAG=actions juju bootstrap
[01:05] <moqq> ahhhgg. juju destroy-environment appears to leave the vagrant box image in an unusable state. after i destroy the initial environment and try to bootstrap again, i only get “ ERROR juju.cmd supercommand.go:430 cannot initiate replica set: cannot get replica set configuration: cannot get replset config: not authorized for query on local.system.replset”
[03:27] * thumper frowns
[03:27] <thumper> wallyworld: you around?
[03:27] <wallyworld> yeah
[03:28] <thumper> so I'm trying to upgrade my ec2 env
[03:28] <thumper> it is currently using 1.20.14
[03:28] <thumper> my client is 1.22.1
[03:28] <thumper> juju upgrade-juju says: "no upgrades available"
[03:28] <thumper> any idea why?
[03:29] <wallyworld> um
[03:30] <wallyworld> do you have a tools-url setting in use?
[03:30] * thumper looks
[03:30] <wallyworld> just saw this in the code :-(
[03:30] <wallyworld> // No tools found and we shouldn't upload any, so if we are not asking for a
[03:30] <wallyworld> // major upgrade, pretend there is no more recent version available.
[03:31] <wallyworld> why oh why
[03:31] <thumper> juju get-env tools-url says nothing
[03:31] <thumper> ?
[03:31] <wallyworld> might be tools-metadata-url
[03:31] <thumper> 2015-04-24 03:16:00 DEBUG juju.cmd.juju upgradejuju.go:367 found more recent current version 1.20.14
[03:31] <thumper> 2015-04-24 03:16:00 INFO juju.cmd cmd.go:113 no upgrades available
[03:31] <wallyworld> so that comment was from the upgrade code
[03:31] <thumper> that is from the log
[03:32] <thumper> this is a very vanilla ec2 deploy
[03:32] <thumper> I'm wondering why we are telling people there are no upgrades available when there obviously are
[03:33] <wallyworld> me too
[03:33] <wallyworld> ok, what about juju metadata validate-tools (i think)
[03:33] <moqq> i’m glad i wasn’t going crazy then
[03:33] <moqq> i thought that was strange too
[03:34] <thumper> wallyworld: what does the validate tools do?
[03:34] <wallyworld> if prints the available tools and where it finds them
[03:34] <wallyworld> or more accurately, the tools it would use
[03:34] <thumper> http://paste.ubuntu.com/10876012/
[03:35] <thumper> so... WTF?
[03:35] <wallyworld> ok so that's good
[03:35] <wallyworld> good in that your client can fin the expected tol
[03:35] <wallyworld> tools
[03:35] <wallyworld> bad in that it refuses to use them
[03:35] <wallyworld> so we can narrow down where to look for the issue
[03:36] <wallyworld> i'll read the code a bit to see if anything jumps out
[03:36] <thumper> wallyworld: also, (since I'm not working today) can you file a bug about the help text for upgrade-juju?
[03:36] <thumper> wallyworld: it still says minor numbers are dev versions
[03:36] <wallyworld> sure
[03:37] <thumper> wallyworld: I did 'juju upgrade-juju --version 1.22.1' and it worked
[03:38] <wallyworld> hmmm, so the automatic new version selection fails
[03:38] <wallyworld> the relevant comment
[03:38] <wallyworld> // No explicitly specified version, so find the version to which we
[03:38] <wallyworld> // need to upgrade. If the CLI and agent major versions match, we find
[03:38] <wallyworld> // next available stable release to upgrade to by incrementing the
[03:38] <wallyworld> // minor version, starting from the current agent version and doing
[03:38] <wallyworld> // major.minor+1. If the CLI has a greater major version,
[03:38] <wallyworld> // we just use the CLI version as is.
[03:38] <bradm> anyone know how you get a charm added to trusty? bip is currently only in precise, I followed what looked to be the instructions at https://jujucharms.com/docs/stable/authors-charm-store#recommended-charms and filed LP#1401774, but there is literally no movement.
[03:39] <wallyworld> bradm: marcoceppi_ would be one person to ask, i have NFI
[03:40] <bradm> I filed this bug about 4 months ago now..
[03:40] <bradm> marcoceppi_: can you have a look at LP#1401774 when you're about and have time? trying to get the bip charm into trusty.
[03:41] <wallyworld> thumper: one guess i have quickly looking at the code is that we still seem to expect to only upgrade from x.y to x.y+1
[03:42] <wallyworld> that's if we don't specify an explicit version
[03:42] <wallyworld> so in your case, it was looking for 1.21
[03:42] <thumper> hmm...
[03:42] <wallyworld> not sure why it couldn't find that
[03:42] <wallyworld> and anyway, that's wrong
[03:42] * thumper nods
[03:42] * thumper goes to make a coffee
[03:42] <wallyworld> i'll file a bug
[03:47] <moqq> hey i can’t find in the docs anything detailing exactly what ports/routes are needed between the juju client and the rest of the cluster. is it ssh from the client machine to every machine in the cluster?
[03:47] <moqq> and what the “tools storage” port 8040 is exactly used for / by whom
[03:50] <wallyworld> moqq: tools storage port is no longer used for new installs
[03:50] <moqq> oh excellent
[03:51] <wallyworld> the main port is 17070 used to connect the client to the state servers
[03:51] <wallyworld> and ssh
[03:51] <moqq> the 17070 is a mongodb port?
[03:51] <wallyworld> the client can ssh to each node, but it can proxy via the state server i think
[03:51] <moqq> ah ok
[03:52] <wallyworld> no, mongo uses 37017
[03:52] <wallyworld> but only the state server connects to that
[03:52] <moqq> okay. and there is only one state server per cluster?
[03:52] <moqq> per ‘environment’ *
[03:53] <wallyworld> by default, but there is high availability also so a cluster of state servers is supported
[03:53] <moqq> ah ok
[03:53] <wallyworld> 1, 3, 5, 7 etc
[03:53] <wallyworld> odd numbers because it uses a mongo replicaset
[03:53] <moqq> yep
[03:53] <moqq> so, to issue commands to an environemnt (like deploy or actions), the machine running the juju client needs only to be able talk the master server(s) via tcp 37017
[03:53] <moqq> correct?
[03:53] <wallyworld> 17070
[03:54] <moqq> erm*
[03:54] <moqq> yes
[03:54] <wallyworld> yes
[03:54] <moqq> excellent, thank you
[03:54] <wallyworld> sure, np
[03:54] <wallyworld> i can't recall if ssh proxy is enabled by default
[03:55] <wallyworld> if it is, you can also ssh to worker nodes via the state server also, so 17070 should be all you need the client to connect to
[03:55] <moqq> yeah that makes sense. neat
[03:55] <moqq> just curious, what protocol is it carrying over 17070?
[03:57] <wallyworld> proxy-ssh is true by default for new environments
[03:57] <wallyworld> websocket
[03:57] <moqq> over https?
[03:57] <wallyworld> https based
[03:57] <moqq> awesome
[03:57] <wallyworld> when an env is bootstrapped, certs are generated
[03:57] <moqq> i saw those in there, that makes sense.
[03:59] <moqq> thanks again for the info. getting this into production with a handful of custom charms over the coming week and a half so i will likely have a few more inquiries!
[04:02] <wallyworld> moqq: sure, np. there's more people in #juju-dev so you will have most luck asking in there
[04:02] <wallyworld> ask any questions and we'll try and help
[04:02] <wallyworld> there's also the mailing list
[04:02] <wallyworld> good luck with the roll out
[04:07] <moqq> awesome, thank you
[04:22] <lazyPower> bradm: Updates to trusty are predicated by test inclusion - if you can contribute some amulet tests to the bip charm it would expedite the process
[04:22] <lazyPower> ah disregard, i made that statement while still reading backlog and not looking @ the bug
[04:22] * lazyPower stands in teh corner
[04:36] <bradm> lazyPower: ayup. as far as I can tell there's tests there. I might need to update the branch from precise trunk since its been filed so long ago
[04:37] <lazyPower> bradm: sorry about that - i dont see it in our RevQ, and id ont know why thats the case
[04:37] <lazyPower> status new + linked branch should have pulled it in
[04:37] <bradm> lazyPower: I'm planning to rewrite it in services framework, it should be pretty simple
[04:37] <lazyPower> :thumbsup: I look forward to seeing that :)
[04:37] <bradm> lazyPower: no worries, I couldn't see it in the review queue either, so I finally got time to go looking
[04:37] <bradm> lazyPower: I have a couple of thruk charms to throw charmers way once I get tests added
[04:38] <bradm> lazyPower: those are all in the services framework
[04:39] <bradm> lazyPower: anyway, for the bip charm push up to trusty, if we can get it on someones radar to see whats going on, that'd be awesome. its not a hugely high priority, bip is kind of my play charm that I push along when I get a chance
[08:14] <jcapel> I thought I'd give juju a go on my freshly installed 15.04 server, but juju-quickstart fails. It seems to assume the system is using upstart (it fails on start juju-db)
[09:09] <bloodearnest> hmm, can I file/reassign a bug to a specific charm? Seems I can only assign to "charms" project
[09:19] <jamespage> marcoceppi_, hey - how do I see why the charm release yesterday has not ingested into the store?
[09:20] <marcoceppi_> jamespage: great question, no idea anymore. If it passes proof it should be ingested. Are you not seeing it in the gui or not deployable?
[09:21] <jamespage> marcoceppi_, https://jujucharms.com/cinder/
[09:21] <jamespage> vs the branch on launchpad
[09:21] <marcoceppi_> https://store.juju.ubuntu.com/charm-info?charms=cs:trusty/cinder
[09:21] <marcoceppi_> seems revision 18 is in the store
[09:22] <marcoceppi_> this is a charmstore api thing, you'll need to ping rick_h_ & co to investigate
[09:23] <marcoceppi_> jamespage: actually, they do seem to be the same
[09:23] <marcoceppi_> so this might be a larger issue
[09:24] * marcoceppi_ investigates
[09:25] <marcoceppi_> jamespage: it seems that what's in lp:~openstack-charmers/charms/trusty/cinder/trunk is in the charmstore proper
[09:25] <marcoceppi_> the gui seems to have the same revision, but the revision history is off
[09:26] <marcoceppi_> which makes sense, I think the api is mid-transision away from tracking dvcs info
[09:26] <marcoceppi_> rick_h_ and the ui team would know more
[10:54] <rick_h_> jamespage: marcoceppi_ there's a bug with the new charmstore not getting the up to date changelog and the guys on are it. The charm itself, the readme, etc is all good but it's missing the latest revisions in the changelog.
[11:07] <marcoceppi_> rick_h_: that's what it seemed like, I figured we were just going to drop that in a juju publish world
[11:07] <rick_h_> marcoceppi_: well our goal will be to try to keep it if we can tell but yea. Might end up being a link to the homepage/etc
[11:09] <marcoceppi_> rick_h_: ack, thanks for the clarification
[11:18] <Mmike> Hey, guys,. I run `juju run --service myservice "someSuperDuperStuff.sh`, and that fails with timeout for some units. But at the same time I'm able to do 'juju ssh myservice/{0,1,2,3...}' with no problem(s)
[11:19] <Mmike> how is juju run implemented, and why whould it time out, how do I start debugging this?
[11:28] <marcoceppi_> Mmike: juju run is run as a hook context, so if you have hooks running or is someSuperDuperStuff.sh never exits
[11:28] <marcoceppi_> it'll timeout
[11:43] <Mmike> marcoceppi_: aaaa, makes sense!
[11:43] <Mmike> marcoceppi_: thnx! :)
[11:43] <Mmike> i do have hooks still running
[11:48] <marcoceppi_> Mmike: so the juju run is queued
[11:49] <marcoceppi_> Mmike: you'd probalby be interested in actions, which is like run with some structure and async nature
[11:51] <Mmike> marcoceppi_: for now I can really do 'juju ssh' in a for loop
[11:51] <Mmike> marcoceppi_: is there a document(ation) describing how to use juju actions?
[11:53] <marcoceppi_> Mmike: yes, there is: https://jujucharms.com/docs/stable/authors-charm-actions
[11:53] <Mmike> oh
[11:53] <Mmike> neat!
[11:53] <Mmike> marcoceppi_++ thnx
[12:08] <urulama> jamespage: is this the proper cinder now? https://jujucharms.com/cinder
[17:30] <jhobbs> Hi - is there a way to specify a revision of the launchpad branch for a charm in deployer bundles?
[20:23] <hatch> is there any way to expose a port on a unit from the juju CLI?
[20:25] <jrwren> nope
[20:25] <hatch> ok how about any way to expose a port besides the hook context
[20:27] <hatch> doesn't look like I cna change it from the aws console
[20:29] <jrwren> yeah, you can, edit the security group.
[20:32] <lazyPower> hatch: juju run --service "open-port 80"
[20:33] <lazyPower> Anon hook context == hook context. I use this when developing and i forget to set an open-port statement.
[20:33] <hatch> lazyPower: very cool trick! Thanks!
[20:33] <jrwren> been looking for that for a year(almost) is it documented?
[20:34] <hatch> (not that I could find) heh
[20:34] <hatch> well juju run is
[20:34] <hatch> so this is just a really cool technique :)
[20:36] <jrwren> the key there is that the unit tools path is in PATH when using --service. That is great!
[20:38] <jrwren> bah, its right there in the juju run help. Now I feel stupid.
[20:38] <hatch> haha I didn't even think to try juju run so... :)
[20:39] <lazyPower> Tricks of the trade
[20:44] <hatch> thanks again lazyPower
[20:44] <lazyPower> cheers
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2015-04-24-#xubuntu
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[01:23] <nandalpn> Will I be able to upgrade directly from 14.04.2 LTS to 15.04 (i.e skipping 14.10)?
[01:25] <cfhowlett> nandalpn, no
[04:00] <scriptwarlock> anyone home?
[04:01] <pleia2> always :)
[04:01] <pleia2> !ask
[04:05] <scriptwarlock> got fresh install updated xubuntu 15.04 and after right clicking to "arrange desktop icons" i got this http://mastertux.imgur.com/all/ http://imgur.com/IDTEyJe
[04:05] <scriptwarlock> i think this one http://imgur.com/YHVkVtl
[04:06] <scriptwarlock> sorry for the first link
[04:13] <scriptwarlock> i think i need to speak to xfce also
[04:15] <xubuntu22w> hello
[04:15] <xubuntu22w> ok
[04:15] <xubuntu22w> yes
[04:16] <xubuntu22w> quick Q
[04:16] <xubuntu22w> trying to create in a mac a USB ubuntu image for a winfos machine
[04:16] <xubuntu22w> windows
[04:17] <xubuntu22w> can't find a straight answer how
[04:17] <xubuntu22w> anybody?
[04:18] <xubuntu22w> 10
[04:18] <xubuntu22w> 9
[04:18] <xubuntu22w> 8
[04:18] <xubuntu22w> 7
[04:18] <xubuntu22w> 6
[04:18] <Unit193> xubuntu22w: Stop that.
[04:18] <xubuntu22w> ha!:)
[04:18] <xubuntu22w> thank you
[04:18] <xubuntu22w> all ears
[04:18] <scriptwarlock> you got his attention now xubuntu22w :)
[04:19] <xubuntu22w> the Q is
[04:19] <xubuntu22w> to create a windows bus image in a mac
[04:19] <xubuntu22w> in a usb
[04:19] <xubuntu22w> got windows 8.1...bricked my laptop
[04:19] <xubuntu22w> so I am going xubuntu
[04:19] <xubuntu22w> returned windows 8.1 to the store
[04:20] <xubuntu22w> I took the ubuntu tour and it is the way to go
[04:20] <xubuntu22w> I have no windows machine available but a mac
[04:21] <xubuntu22w> borrowed one to get my lp back
[04:21] <xubuntu22w> i have the usb stick into the Mac now
[04:21] <Unit193> scriptwarlock: I'd look https://bugzilla.xfce.org/buglist.cgi?component=General&product=Xfdesktop&query_format=advanced&resolution=---&order=bug_id%20DESC&query_based_on= for your bug though.
[04:21] <xubuntu22w> I cool let me see
[04:23] <xubuntu22w> OK thank you for your time
[04:23] <xubuntu22w> but it will take too long
[04:23] <xubuntu22w> I already spent enough time on this today and the ubuntu website was cumbersome
[04:23] <xubuntu22w> for something so simple
[04:23] <xubuntu22w> i am surprise the answer is hidden so deeply
[04:23] <xubuntu22w> I am out
[04:24] <xubuntu22w> but
[04:24] <xubuntu22w> THANK OU FOR OUR TIME!
[04:24] <scriptwarlock> Unit193, checking the link thanks
[04:24] <xubuntu22w> Y
[04:24] <xubuntu22w> it is simple
[04:24] <xubuntu22w> it took me 10 minutes to realize
[04:24] <Unit193> lp 1434959, scriptwarlock.
[04:24] <xubuntu22w> the start up creator is nowhere to be found
[04:25] <xubuntu22w> un;less supposedly you install ubuntu first
[04:25] <xubuntu22w> there should be a page describing MAC to Windos and vice versa regarding the USB install
[04:26] <scriptwarlock> Unit193, what does lp means ? sorry got confused
[04:26] <xubuntu22w> and the start up creator should be independent of the OS
[04:26] <xubuntu22w> in any case thank you again
[04:26] <Unit193> scriptwarlock: It's a bug, then ubottu linked you to it with the description and status.
[04:26] <xubuntu22w> I will look into it some other time.....
[04:27] <xubuntu22w> hopefully I don't have to go back to the store and buy a 128 Solid State and buy back the windows 8.1
[04:27] <xubuntu22w> I would have rather give the money to ubuntu
[04:27] <Unit193> Likely use dd from inside Mac OS, but I don't know as I don't use Mac OS, xubuntu22w.
[04:27] <xubuntu22w> but too much work
[04:27] <scriptwarlock> Unit193, oh well nothing there to see
[04:27] <xubuntu22w> it is ok
[04:27] <xubuntu22w> tomorrow when I am at work ...windows
[04:28] <xubuntu22w> will look for a different start up disk creator and get ubuntu that way
[04:28] <xubuntu22w> once I get it going...i will donate to ubuntu.....i like what i see
[04:28] <xubuntu22w> thank you again!
[04:28] <xubuntu22w> maybe once I do that I can add to the forums
[04:36] <Unit193> scriptwarlock: It's fixed, so there is that.
[04:36] <scriptwarlock> Unit193, i'm about to file can i have the link?
[04:37] <Unit193> https://launchpad.net/bugs/1434959 looks like yours.
[04:39] <scriptwarlock> Unit193, hah got it ok i think i need to wait for the fix
[04:46] <scriptwarlock> Unit193, thanks
[04:46] <Unit193> Sure, happy to help.
[04:47] <scriptwarlock> Unit193, the bug affects my arch setup as well
[06:06] <adrian_1908> hello, I just got a notification that 15.04 stable is now available (I'm on 14.10) along with an upgrade button. Should I do this, or do version upgrades pose a risk of breaking things?
[06:09] <futurestack> my wifi sees every network except the ones I already know
[06:09] <Unit193> Sure there's some risk, but Utopic/14.10 is supported for 9 months after release.
[06:09] <futurestack> it's the opposite of fun
[06:11] <futurestack> can't connect to wifi at home or at the pub. this is new as of today and I didn't change anything. leads? (please)
[06:12] <futurestack> i did install libusb, eas trying to get a controller working
[06:12] <futurestack> why would this break wifi tho
[06:13] <futurestack> wifi works but my preferred networks aren't in the list FML
[06:14] <adrian_1908> I'll just go ahead and upgrade. If something breaks, I think I can live with it :D
[06:14] <adrian_1908> bye!
[06:14] <Unit193> wpa_supplicant was just upgraded, in vivid.
[06:14] <Unit193> futurestack: The connections are in /etc/NetworkManager/system-connections/
[06:16] <futurestack> I did not upgrade, what should I do to restore functionality?
[06:17] <futurestack> remove everything in that dir?
[06:19] <futurestack> nm-applet now shows nothing, no networks
[06:20] <futurestack> enable wifi os now grayed out. great
[06:21] <futurestack> *is
[06:22] <Unit193> sudo service network-manager restart
[06:23] <futurestack> to gain whatever sympathy vote I can, I have done nothing for the last six months; stuff just stopped working today and I have no idea why
[06:24] <Unit193> I'd be checking logs.
[06:26] <futurestack> which logs? dmesg gives me brsmc errors which leads to two forum posts that have different hardware
[06:26] <futurestack> all of my setup worked fine until abt 2h ago and I literally changed nothing so am very confused
[06:27] <futurestack> I can't even conmect to my home wifi now
[06:29] <futurestack> oh wait, it's worse, networking is entirely disabled, great, nvmm
[06:29] <Unit193> Is network-manager properly running? Kernel updates? Driver/firmware updates? broadcom cards tend to be "fun"
[06:31] <futurestack> I restarted, networking claims to work, one sex
[06:31] <futurestack> sec
[06:33] <futurestack> omfg it worked for a second
[06:33] <futurestack> and now back to defunct. what the hell happened
[06:34] <futurestack> dmesg reporta a bunch of erors tht I googled earlier that were useless
[06:34] <Unit193> Now, dmesg and if on vivid sudo systemctl status network-manager.service
[06:34] <futurestack> I'm on utopic
[06:34] <futurestack> I think
[06:35] <futurestack> systemctl does not exist
[06:36] <pragomer> hello. I want to remaster the xubuntu-live-cd and I have a beginners question (about "skel"). can someone help?
[06:36] <futurestack> oh man I love this stuff
[06:37] <futurestack> wherr do I sign up to fucking kill myself when my wifi stops working for no fucking reason
[06:38] <futurestack> is it over here? cool thanks xD
[06:38] <Unit193> No cussing please. You can try to see if #ubuntu is any more help.
[06:38] <futurestack> oh sorry
[06:38] <Unit193> Sure, I get it's frustrating.
[06:38] <Unit193> pragomer: What question?
[06:38] <futurestack> habits
[06:39] <Unit193> futurestack: Randomly stopping implies something changed like an upgrade, driver is more common and generally easier.
[06:39] <pragomer> thanks unit193. Here's my remastering-script:
[06:39] <pragomer> http://paste.ubuntu.com/10876629/
[06:40] <pragomer> I copy some folders/files to /etc/skel
[06:40] <futurestack> right. I did change one thing in the system today/
[06:40] <pragomer> lines 92 ff
[06:40] <pragomer> but these are ignored
[06:41] <Unit193> Oh gosh, no.
[06:41] <futurestack> it had to do with a ps3 controller
[06:41] <pragomer> you mean me, unit?
[06:41] <futurestack> libusb-dev and one third party thing
[06:42] <futurestack> if that beoke my wifi well,..., well
[06:42] <Unit193> pragomer: That's not how you do that, look more at the files in /etc/xdg/xdg-xubuntu/xfce4/ until you find the panel settings.
[06:42] <futurestack> *beroke
[06:42] <Unit193> futurestack: Well, libusb-dev wouldn't for sure.
[06:42] <futurestack> butmy wifi is totally broken for no reason, and I guess I
[06:43] <futurestack> was hoping for an answer here
[06:43] <pragomer> I though copying the settings from /home/xubuntu/.config would be enough.. mm.. okay...
[06:43] <pragomer> So you mean I take the files from running xubuntu-live-cd from /etc/xdg/xdg-xubuntu/xfce4/ or from source-iso ?
[06:43] <Unit193> futurestack: I'd try #ubuntu, I can't think of anything.
[06:43] <futurestack> ok, thanks
[06:44] <Unit193> Sorry.
[06:44] <futurestack> nbd :(
[06:44] <futurestack> who needs wifi anyways
[06:45] <Unit193> I'm upstairs right now, I dooo.
[06:45] <futurestack> 0/win 3
[06:45] <futurestack> shiit
[06:45] <Unit193> Alt+3 ?
[06:46] <futurestack> I'm typing on my phone because my WIfi is fucking broken yo
[06:46] <futurestack> bbl
[11:40] <alxk> Hello! After upgrading to 15.04 it seems i cant connect on home wifi(open).The available networks are there but the connection always gets timed out according to dmesg.Guidance would be really appreciated!
[12:04] <audreeliss> Xubuntu the better choice? 64bit or 32bit? Computer 2007 E6750 4GB of RAM. Thank you for your opinions.
[12:07] <knome> if you processor is 64-bit, no reason not to use the 64-bit version
[12:09] <audreeliss> And is there in that very difference? Because Windows does not see 4GB Ramos and here and how everything he sees. Are all programs, program center 64bit? Because I could not find 64bit skype.
[12:10] <knome> you can run skype on 64-bit
[12:16] <remline__> Where do I find the checksum for the 15.04 ISO?
[12:18] <knome> http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/xubuntu/releases/15.04/release/
[12:30] <diegows> is there a script or something to cleanup old password from gnome keyring
[12:30] <diegows> it's eating all my memory :P
[12:35] <brainwash> diegows: install seahorse to manage your passwords
[12:36] <diegows> yes, I'm testing it but I have thousands of passwords in hte keyring :)
[12:36] <diegows> I was looking at the python module to write something to purge unused passwords
[12:38] <brainwash> diegows: I suggest that you connect to irc.gnome.org and join #keyring
[12:38] <diegows> good :)
[12:38] <diegows> thanks
[12:39] <brainwash> good luck :)
[12:40] <audreeliss> Do you also some ppa repository does not work? Somehow a lot of currently dormant storage. Never lost to the face. List: W: Failed to fetch http://ppa.launchpad.net/deluge-team/ppa/ubuntu/dists/vivid/main/binary-i386/Packages 404 Not Found
[12:40] <audreeliss> W: Failed to fetch http://ppa.launchpad.net/kilian/f.lux/ubuntu/dists/utopic/main/binary-i386/Packages 404 Not Found
[12:40] <audreeliss> W: Failed to fetch http://ppa.launchpad.net/me-davidsansome/clementine/ubuntu/dists/utopic/main/binary-i386/Packages 404 Not Found
[12:40] <audreeliss> E: Some index files failed to download. They have been IGNORED, or old ones used Instead.
[12:40] <knome> audreeliss, generally, ask the PPA maintainer about PPA problems
[12:42] <audreeliss> Thank you. I'll try :)
[12:57] <xubuntu69o> Hi I'm looking to upgrade my xubuntu from 14.04 to 15.04 in temrianl, how do i do thi
[12:57] <xubuntu69o> *this
[12:57] <knome> xubuntu69o, you will have to upgrade via 14.10, there is no way to hop over that
[12:59] <xubuntu69o> okay, cool, If i'm remembering right theres a terminal command to get to 14.10, what's that again?
[13:00] <knome> xubuntu69o, "sudo do-release-upgrade", considering you have updates for normal releases enabled (and not LTS only)
[13:00] <xubuntu69o> Great thanks!
[13:26] <redir> morning (here) xubuntu
[13:27] <knome> hello.
[13:27] <redir> I updated to 15.04 this morning via `sudo do-release-upgrade`
[13:27] <redir> and I seem to have gotten a development release.
[13:27] <knome> nope.
[13:28] <redir> Is this expected.
[13:28] <redir> ?
[13:28] <knome> it is not the development version, it's the final release
[13:28] <redir> it has kernel 3.18.x and says development channel in the /etc/lsb-release
[13:29] <knome> do you have pinned package?
[13:29] <redir> DISTRIB_DESCRIPTION="Ubuntu Vivid Vervet (development branch)"
[13:29] <knome> are you sure the upgrade was done correctly?
[13:29] <redir> 3.18.0-12-generic
[13:30] <redir> knome I did it the same way I do it on ubuntu and it seemed to do the same thing, but came up with a different release
[13:30] <redir> what do you mean pinned package?
[13:30] <knome> have you taken the last updates?
[13:30] <knome> "sudo apt-get dist-upgrade" ?
[13:30] <redir> knome: yes
[13:31] <knome> and there is no errors when you do that?
[13:31] <redir> correct
[13:32] <redir> sudo do-release-upgrade also says I am up to date
[13:32] <knome> have you ran sudo apt-get update?
[13:32] <redir> knome: yes
[13:35] <knome> redir, run "cat /etc/apt/sources.list | pastebinit" and paste the url here
[13:35] <redir> http://paste.ubuntu.com/10878636/
[13:36] <knome> right, your repository is probably just lagging
[13:37] <knome> you can change your repository to the main server if you want, or simpy wait for some time
[13:37] <redir> meaning it will catch up in the next 24-48?
[13:37] <knome> that's likely, it all depends on the repository server
[13:37] <redir> OK. I'll give it a couple days.
[13:37] <knome> "Last update succeeded on fruitfly.it.anl.gov at: Mon Feb 2 03:11:28 CST 2015"
[13:38] <redir> february!
[13:38] <knome> apparently it's not a very recent mirror
[13:44] <redir> switched mirrors and getting updates. Fingers crossed -- thanks knome.
[13:44] <knome> np, enjoy
[14:21] <redir> I'm back:)
[14:22] <redir> Got the updates and seems to have the correct versions
[14:22] <redir> am on 15.04 proper now.
[14:23] <redir> but.... lightdm-gtk-greeter hangs with a grey screen and spinning a core at 100%
[14:23] <DannyF> Hey folks, I'm using (X)ubuntu 14.04.2 LTS and seemingly since the last kernel update (3.13.0-49-generic) my cursor no longer changes from a standard pointer.
[14:25] <redir> if anyone hace any ideas on the lightdm-gtk-greeter they would be apprectaited
[14:25] <DannyF> The application being used makes no difference, be it chrome firefox or xchat.
[14:27] <redir> systemctl restart lightdm.service returns Error: No space lef ton device.
[14:27] <redir> That seems suspicious as htere is plenty of space on the device:/
[14:27] <elfy> redir: seperate /boot?
[14:28] <redir> 89M in /boot
[14:28] <redir> elfy: ^
[14:28] <elfy> mmm
[14:28] <genii> Possibly /var where it wants to write the log is full
[14:29] * redir looks
[14:29] <redir> and looks up how to see the partition schema
[14:31] <elfy> did your last upgrade work properly? if /boot doesn't have room and you tried to install a new kernel
[14:31] <elfy> redir: ^^
[14:33] <redir> elfy: it boots. Just the login screen hangs.
[14:34] <elfy> well - there is a space issue somewhere :)
[14:34] <elfy> look where genii pointed
[14:34] <redir> right:)
[14:34] <redir> lookinf
[14:34] <genii> Any partitions from result of: df -h look like they are getting full?
[14:34] <redir> one big partition mounted at / and a boot efi partition
[14:35] <redir> genii: no 69% on / and 1% on /boot/efi
[14:36] * redir looks at logs
[14:44] <genii> redir: Find anything enlightening/odd in the logs yet?
[14:44] <redir> genii: not really
[14:45] <redir> the lightdm logs have warnings about not finding wallpaper
[14:45] <redir> but no errors
[14:47] <redir> X seems to be up and running
[14:47] <redir> only the login screen hangs
[14:48] <redir> or is just grey and 100% CPU on one core
[14:48] <redir> I see some upstart errors when I stop lightdm
[14:49] <redir> aha lightdm-gtk-greeter:5856): Gdk-WARNING **: lightdm-gtk-greeter: Fatal IO error 11 (Resource temporarily unavailable) on X server :0.
[14:50] <elfy> right
[14:51] <elfy> so a proper upgrade should have brought in systemd and you should be booting with that
[14:51] <elfy> might be some oddities going on there
[14:51] <redir> elfy: I htink it is
[14:51] <elfy> what happens with an apt-get dist-upgrade ?
[14:52] <redir> clean
[14:52] <elfy> k
[14:52] <redir> Calculating upgrade... Done 0 0 0
[14:53] <elfy> try booting with upstart then :) advanced menu in grub - option should be there
[14:53] <redir> sudo restart
[14:54] <redir> hehe
[14:55] <redir> AFAICT everything is up and running but the greeter
[14:55] <audreeliss> Is it possible to compile usually without any plug-ins installed xfce xfce from the site?
[14:56] <elfy> redir: and restarting lightdm when running upstart?
[14:56] <redir> first I have to get to grub:/
[14:56] <elfy> redir: press and hold tab
[14:57] <elfy> or shift ...
[15:00] <redir> ahh
[15:00] <redir> I think I need a non ergo keyboard
[15:01] <elfy> redir: assuming you can log in to a terminal you can show grub by editing a file
[15:01] <elfy> I don't want to do too much, never had that issue personally and I've been running dev versions for about 3 years
[15:02] <redir> OK neither tab nor shift get's me there.
[15:02] <redir> yeah my first problem I couldn't solve in a couple minutes
[15:02] <elfy> one should for sure
[15:02] <redir> in several yeara
[15:03] <elfy> anyway - edit /etc/default/grub and comment GRUB_HIDDEN_TIMEOUT=0
[15:03] <elfy> then update-grub
[15:03] <elfy> obviously with root rights
[15:04] <elfy> then you should see the grub menu
[15:06] <redir> booting w/ upstart
[15:06] <redir> same issue
[15:06] <redir> lightdm-gtk-greeter spins
[15:08] <elfy> redir: mmm - not sure, if no-one else pipes up in here maybe try #ubuntu, should be a fairly generic issue
[15:08] <redir> k
[15:08] <redir> thanks elfy
[15:09] <genii> I'm suspecting there's some race condition on the cpu
[15:15] <redir> OK
[15:15] <redir> adding "active-monitor=0" to the greeter config fixed it
[15:16] <redir> I think
[15:16] <redir> yup logged in now
[15:16] <redir> so I found a bug
[15:17] <redir> is there an Xubuntu place to report it? or is it general ubuntu?
[15:22] <genii> redir: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/lightdm-gtk-greeter right-hand side under Get Involved is "Report a bug" ... need to login with either Launchpad ID or Ubuntu One
[15:23] <elfy> genii: might be better to ubuntu-bug it from a terminal
[15:24] <genii> elfy: Without a -dbg package for it, info there probably not much use
[15:24] <elfy> mmk
[15:25] <genii> redir: The alternate way as elfy describes is: ubuntu-bug lightdm-gtk-greeter on commandline
[15:26] <genii> The information it gathers for debugging purposes will be incomplete, however
[15:30] <knome> redir, i might be affected by the same bug, please report it and i'll see if i can confirm it
[15:31] <genii> redir: That package doesn't have a -dbg package that goes with it. If you want to create a more useful report perhaps see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingProgramCrash#Non-built-in_debug_symbol_packages_.28.2A-dbgsym.29
[15:32] <knome> as long as the bug is filed... :)
[16:02] <redir> I enabled debugging in the config and have the log I can post witht he report.
[16:02] <redir> looks like it is switching monitor ports endlessly
[16:07] <redir> so prolly only affects multi monitor setups
[16:33] <redixin> Hi all. minidlna package was missing in ubuntu-14.04, but this was fixed (according to this: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/minidlna/+bug/1309651)
[16:34] <redixin> but is does not exists in xubuntu
[16:59] <genii> !info minidlna utopic
[16:59] <genii> redixin: Make sure you have the universe repository enabled
[17:00] <redir> bug posted. thanks to elfy genii and knome for the assists this morning.
[17:00] <elfy> welcome
[17:00] * redir hands out beers
[17:01] <redixin> genii, grep universe /etc/apt/sources.list http://dpaste.com/1JAQWDF
[17:03] <knome> redir, what's the bug number?
[17:06] <genii> Info minidlna trusty-backports
[17:06] <genii> !Info minidlna trusty-backports
[17:07] <genii> !info minidlna trusty-backports
[17:07] <genii> There we go. Need more coffee :)
[17:07] <genii> redixin: So looks like for 14.04 it's in backports, in 14.10 it's in universe
[17:11] <redixin> genii, oh, thanks a lot
[17:12] <genii> redixin: You're welcome :)
[17:12] <redir> knome: 1448214 https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/lightdm-gtk-greeter/+bug/1448214
[17:13] <knome> redir, mmh, right, this is likely not my bug, my screen isn't grey :/
[17:15] <redir> knome: could have een white... looked grey to me and there was a cursor visible. But that is it.
[17:15] <knome> redir, bug 1410406 ?
[17:15] <redir> knome: enabling debug in greeeter was very helpful
[17:15] <knome> redir, no i mean i don't have any "blank" screen, but i definitely see something that could be switching monitors back and forth
[17:16] <knome> redir, apart from the color, isn't it the same bug that what i pasted?
[17:16] <redir> looks like it
[17:16] * redir goes to link the second to the first
[17:17] <knome> thanks :)
[17:17] <redir> I couldn't click to log in though.
[17:17] <knome> i'll link it then
[17:18] <redir> but whatevs it is very much the same cause
[17:18] <knome> marked as duplicate
[17:18] <knome> thanks for the attention and care :)
[17:19] <elfy> indeed - thanks redir :)
[17:23] <redir> np
[17:45] <sergio-br2> heya
[17:45] <sergio-br2> does light locker implement freedesktop standard to screensavers?
[17:55] <brainwash> sergio-br2: you mean this https://github.com/the-cavalry/light-locker/commit/dfcfc9834241225c4bd9fccc9a77714a183b805c ?
[17:56] <sergio-br2> yeah, https://github.com/mupen64plus/mupen64plus-ui-python/issues/44#issuecomment-95852106
[17:56] <sergio-br2> is it already in trusty?
[17:57] <brainwash> no
[17:58] <sergio-br2> hum, so what I need to do? ppa backport?
[17:59] <brainwash> or compile from source
[17:59] <brainwash> https://launchpad.net/~xubuntu-dev/+archive/ubuntu/xubuntu-staging
[18:08] <sergio-br2> fear of brake my system here
[18:09] <brainwash> understandable
[18:09] <sergio-br2> Does someone tested it in trusty?
[18:10] <knome> sergio-br2, it sounds you'd better just stick with what you have, or upgrade to a newer version which has the new feature you want.
[18:11] <sergio-br2> yeha
[18:32] <pjotter> Did anybody succeed in installing the VirtualBox Guest Additions with 15.04?
[18:32] <liquidsnake> haven't tried yet
[18:32] <knome> pjotter, did you try yourself?
[18:32] <pjotter> I'm trying... but so far it doesn't seem to work
[18:32] <liquidsnake> but good question
[18:33] <liquidsnake> yeah thats what i was afraid of
[18:33] <knome> pjotter, have you tried with the newest version from the virtualbox site?
[18:33] <pjotter> It does seem to install... but the screen does not automatically resize as it should in VirtualBox after Guest Additions.
[18:34] <pjotter> knome I'm just using the one from software center at the moment
[18:34] <pjotter> VB version 4.3.10
[18:34] <knome> pjotter, you could try the guest additions from the virtualbox site, that has worked before in similar situations
[18:35] <pjotter> I'll try that
[18:37] <elfy> pjotter: 4.3.10 ? I have a different version in 15.04 here from the repo
[18:38] <elfy> and it resizes
[18:38] <pjotter> I'm running it in Xubuntu 14.04. It has 4.3.10
[18:38] <elfy> why did you say 15.04 then?
[18:38] <pjotter> ?
[18:38] <elfy> [19:32] <pjotter> Did anybody succeed in installing the VirtualBox Guest Additions with 15.04?
[18:39] <pjotter> Ok. I am running 14.04 and wanted to try out 15.04. So I'm doing that by running 15.04 in VirtualBox. So VirtualBox running on 14.04 with15.04
[18:39] <elfy> :) I'd not have said anything about it then
[18:39] <pjotter> The VirtualBox of my 14.04 is version 4.3.10
[18:39] * genii makes more coffee
[18:40] <pjotter> It wouldn't make much sense if I wanted to try out 15.04 from an installed 15.04 version
[18:41] <knome> pjotter, the guest additions are in a way more related to the host OS than the guest OS
[18:41] <pjotter> I know. Do you know where I can get the latest Guest Additions. I'm looking at the VB site but can't seemt o find it
[18:42] <elfy> pjotter: you might be better off - removing the repo version and installing the oracle one
[18:43] <pjotter> I'll just try that
[18:43] <pjotter> The new VB Guest additions come with the install, right?
[18:44] <elfy> yea - install from running guest
[18:49] <pjotter> Ok, so far so good. I got VB version 4.3.26 installed now. Now let's see what happens when I start 15.04 :S
[18:52] <pjotter> Ok, new Guest Addtions installed... rebooting...
[18:52] <pjotter> Hurray! :D
[18:53] <pjotter> Ok, so... appearently the 15.04 Version needs the latest VB and guest additions to run properly.
[18:53] <pjotter> Now let's see what's new in 15.04! Thanks people!
[18:56] <pjotter> Too bad.. the panel-trash-icon bug is still present...
[20:40] <lucas-arg> hey all, ive just installed xubuntu 15.04 and installed some kde apps, first they look good with gtk theme but for some reason they look like windows 95 no theme at all... and ive done nothing...
[20:40] <lucas-arg> any one knows how to fix this?
[20:41] <knome> install and run qt4-qconfig and select "system" as the style
[20:41] <knome> though that should work automatically..
[20:41] <lucas-arg> ok let me see
[20:41] <lucas-arg> is it possible to happen if i update some packages?
[20:42] <knome> if you installed 15.04 from a release ISO, then it should be correct already
[20:42] <knome> (eg. not a beta1 ISO)
[20:43] <lucas-arg> ive installed from official iso
[20:43] <lucas-arg> there was default selected in qt4 config
[20:43] <lucas-arg> it was sorry
[20:44] <lucas-arg> that doesnt seem to be the problem
[20:45] <lucas-arg> am i missing some packages?
[20:46] <knome> lucas-arg, sorry, "GTK+" should be selected
[20:47] <lucas-arg> let me see
[20:47] <lucas-arg> gooooddd!!
[20:47] <lucas-arg> that did the trick
[20:47] <lucas-arg> love so much this OS
[20:47] <knome> that's good to hear
[21:10] <lucas-arg> does any one know where i can find help in rkwatd?
[21:12] <bazhang> what is rkwatd
[21:14] <lucas-arg> a statistic program
[21:14] <knome> lucas-arg, ask the developers
[21:14] <bazhang> from the repos?
[21:14] <lucas-arg> yes
[21:14] <lucas-arg> using R
[21:14] <bazhang> !info rkwatd
[21:15] <lucas-arg> rkward
[21:15] <bazhang> !info rkward
[21:15] <bazhang> the kde frontend
[21:16] <bazhang> for xubuntu?
[21:17] <bazhang> essentially you want help with R, is that not correct
[21:17] <lucas-arg> yeah
[21:18] <bazhang> /j #r <they have a channel lucas-arg
[21:25] <fatexs> hm release upgrade seems to have screwed up my mountpoints....im on xubuntu 15.04 now, seems it says "read only file system" mount: http://pastebin.com/LDSYJgwq
[21:25] <fatexs> anyone has an idea?
[21:27] <knome> where does it say that?
[21:27] <fatexs> instantly when i connect via ssh
[21:28] <fatexs> when i look at the screen it does not boot right... i only get a tty session
[21:28] <knome> do you have free space on the HDD?
[21:29] <fatexs> ./dev/sda2 52G 11G 38G 23% /
[21:31] <fatexs> full df -h http://paste.ubuntu.com/10881470/
[21:34] <fatexs> hm kay
[21:34] <fatexs> a simple mount -o rw,remount /dev/sda2 helped
[21:35] <fatexs> X is showing my login screen now...
[21:35] <fatexs> nice and shiny... but it donest accept my password
[21:35] <fatexs> doesn't
[21:36] <fatexs> it looks like it just restart X when I hit enter
[21:37] <fatexs> I think all the "after reboot" stuff did not run yet
[21:37] <fatexs> so my installation is screwed i guess
[21:41] <fatexs> really quiet channel here btw ;)
[21:49] <GridCube> people rarely have problems with xubuntu :3
[21:49] <knome> maybe it means not a lot of people need support; furthermore, we have #xubuntu-offtopic for general chatter
[21:50] <fatexs> well I never had a proble with release upgrade before either ;)
[21:50] <fatexs> +m
[21:50] <fatexs> fuck me I can't even sftp to it :X.... what the...
[21:51] <knome> fatexs, please watch your language as this is a family-friendly channel
[21:51] <fatexs> k
[21:52] <MrPneguin> Does anyone know what types of files and programs get saved when you upgrade xubuntu?
[21:52] <MrPneguin> Get carried over
[21:52] <knome> MrPneguin, all of your personal files in /home are kept intact as well as the configuration you have done
[21:52] <knome> MrPneguin, that doesn't mean it isn't a good idea to take backups...
[21:53] <MrPneguin> Is there a chance files might not save properly?
[21:53] <knome> there's always a possibility that something goes wrong, which is why you always should take backups
[21:53] <fatexs> i would say there is a cahnce it will not boot prooerly...
[21:55] <MrPneguin> If it doesn't boot properly what steps do you take?
[21:55] <MrPneguin> Besides beckupsa
[21:55] <MrPneguin> backups
[21:56] <knome> MrPneguin, depends what the cause for it is
[21:56] <MrPneguin> Does it also save third party programs?
[21:57] <knome> everything you have installed from the repositories is kept installed - if you have PPA's, those are temporarily disabled so you'll need to re-enable them and make sure you update your applications after the upgrade; if you have installed something that isn't managed by the package management, that is kept as is, but it's also possible that it might not work with the upgraded system
[21:57] <fatexs> quick question: how can I enable root accces via acp? :>
[21:58] <fatexs> scp*
[21:58] <knome> fatexs, you shouldn't.
[21:58] <fatexs> well I need to get my stuff before I do a clean install...
[21:59] <fatexs> because with my skillz I can't fix it apperantly
[22:00] <MrPneguin> I am going to get a high powered pc soon. Does it run fine on high powered machines? Any limitations?
[22:02] <fatexs> knome, how do you suggest I get my data back then?
[22:05] <pjotter> There have been rare cases where problemes were caused beacuse of the pc being too fast. But in general it should run fine, even on high powered pc's.
[22:05] <knome> MrPneguin, no limitations really.
[22:07] <MrPneguin> I really dont know if xubuntu is the best for a 1500 dollar build high performing pc though.
[22:07] <pjotter> For instance: I had to write a script once that waited for network connection to be established before continuing because my pc booted too fast. But I believe that problem got solved in the newer versions now.
[22:07] <knome> MrPneguin, it'll leave more of your resources to use for the tasks you want to do, instead of the system requiring more resources
[22:08] <pjotter> I haven't had any problems with that recently.
[22:08] <fatexs> knome, how do you suggest I get my data back then?
[22:08] <fatexs> if ssh/scp root is not possible?
[22:08] <knome> fatexs, sorry, i have no strong suggestions.
[22:08] <knome> i didn't say it isn't possible... i said you shouldn't
[22:09] <fatexs> well I don't know any other way of getting data of that thing...
[22:10] <knome> i don't understand why you need root access though
[22:10] <fatexs> I can't read /etc/ on my usual account
[22:10] <MrPneguin> yeah, I love the look of it but I dont really know if it's using the pc's full potential. Compared to Ubuntu, what do you think? pros and cons. I really appreciate your input :)
[22:10] <fatexs> and if I want to set up everything up nicely etc would really help...
[22:11] <knome> MrPneguin, you are asking on the xubuntu channel; people here are going to tell you they prefer xubuntu - what else do you expect?
[22:11] <MrPneguin> lol, yeah
[22:11] <knome> fatexs, if you can mount /etc somehow, you can copy it somehow
[22:11] <fatexs> well it is mounted...
[22:11] <knome> fatexs, regular users can read /etc
[22:12] <MrPneguin> Is there any disadvantages running it on a high performance pc though?
[22:12] <knome> MrPneguin, as i said, no
[22:12] <fatexs> knome, I get a lot of errors tho... maybe from deeper file inside etc...
[22:13] <knome> fatexs, you won't likely need everything from /etc when you do a clean install
[22:13] <fatexs> wtf
[22:13] <knome> please.
[22:13] <fatexs> habbit sorry
[22:14] <fatexs> but but but I need my samba conf my fstab for my raid 5 and some more stuff I forget...
[22:15] <knome> fatexs, if you copy /etc, you'll be able to cherry-pick those
[22:15] <fatexs> Im sorry that Im stupid but it took my hours to get it working
[22:15] <knome> if single files give you errors, determine if they are something you need
[22:15] <knome> it sounds weird that your system is in that state; maybe something you did got you in this situation to begin with
[22:16] <fatexs> well my system was perfercly fine until ./do releasy upgrade
[22:16] <fatexs> I guess that counts as " I did something" ;)
[22:17] <fatexs> but it works 6 times ( the last 3 years)... I really thing the update is not working right with some installations
[22:17] <fatexs> appreciate your help tho knome
[22:18] <fatexs> with not working I mean 14.10->15.04
[22:18] <fatexs> the rest was obviously working ;)
[22:18] <knome> everything is possible
[22:19] <knome> welcome to help us with upgrade testing with the next development cycle
[22:19] <fatexs> I think next time I will stick with a backup first tho :D
[22:20] <fatexs> I would love to contribute but with my linux skills I don't think this will help much
[22:20] <fatexs> I got etc copied now...
[22:20] <knome> you've done an upgrade before? you have all the skills required.
[22:21] <knome> fatexs, http://xubuntu.org/contribute/qa/#testing if you got interested
[22:21] <fatexs> I will think about it when I get my pc back in order ;)
[22:21] <knome> fatexs, and fwiw, you should never enable the root account on ubuntu
[22:21] <fatexs> don't tell anybody but Im using my old win7 laptop currently
[22:21] * knome tells fatexs's mum
[22:22] <fatexs> knome, well I know that... but it doesnt really matter it the installion is going to be redone anyway right?
[22:22] <knome> in this case, not likely, but for the future.
[22:23] <fatexs> well I worked 3 years without root...
[22:23] <fatexs> It's not like that is the first think I do is enable root again...
[22:25] <fatexs> where is that transmission config file? is it also under etc?
[22:26] <knome> likely in your /home
[22:26] <fatexs> ah
[22:34] <fatexs> mdadm --assemble md1 does nothing .... I will cry if my nice raid5 is broken :(
[22:35] <fatexs> another question: can i display all installed packages? minus the default ones?
[22:37] <knome> fatexs, http://askubuntu.com/questions/2389/generating-list-of-manually-installed-packages-and-querying-individual-packages
[22:38] <fatexs> perfect! thanks!
[22:39] <fatexs> is /etc/mdadm/mdadm.conf everything there is to a raid 5 or do I need somethign else?
[22:40] <fatexs> I'm just a bit worried I can't assemble my raid again after reinstall...
[22:51] <fatexs> okay
[22:51] <fatexs> my raid is apperantly fine
[22:52] <fatexs> seems i broke df and it doesn't show my /opt/ mounts
[22:52] <fatexs> :)
[23:14] <fatexs> im off then ... thanks again knome!
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[05:45] <diddledan> morning
[06:34] <knightwise> morning diddledan
[06:35] <diddledan> allo
[06:35] <knightwise> how are you doin
[06:36] <diddledan> good good here
[06:36] <knightwise> same here , working on some lectures I'm gonna have to give next month
[06:37] <diddledan> ooh
[06:37] <knightwise> One about the use of cloud solutions for the construction industy and one about the use of social media for small retail business.
[06:38] <knightwise> always a challenge to make the presentations very 'practical'
[06:38] <diddledan> sounds interesting
[06:39] <diddledan> the social media one would intrigue me
[06:39] <diddledan> I have a bit of a soft spot for retail-related issues
[06:39] <knightwise> I have a background in social studies so my approach to the social media stuff from the communications point of view.
[06:39] <diddledan> nice
[06:40] <knightwise> you only control the intention of your communication, never the interpretation
[06:40] <knightwise> I always say : an IT guy telling you about social media is like a construction worker telling you about ballet
[06:40] <diddledan> heh
[06:40] <knightwise> and retail ... Well that is a challenge :)
[06:41] <knightwise> A lot of the freelance consulting I do has to do with retail (and the hard times they are having)
[06:42] <knightwise> And its more then pure IT consulting . Sometimes its a mix between sociology, economics and IT ... :) Challenging stuff but oh-so-interesting
[06:47] <knightwise> So i'm using Freemind to map out the presentations
[06:48] <knightwise> then I use post its to organise my slides
[06:48] <knightwise> and then I make the slide presentation and look for images and examples
[06:48] <knightwise> all cross platform .. except for keynote
[06:48] <knightwise> :)
[06:49] <diddledan> \o/
[06:54] <knightwise> just wish i had some command line tool to do some rough outlining
[06:55] <knightwise> i love the CLI for the pure pleasure that it is distraction free
[07:56] <Azelphur> Any openvpn wizards? I've followed this https://www.digitalocean.com/community/tutorials/how-to-set-up-an-openvpn-server-on-ubuntu-14-04 and got openvpn running, I can connect to it using network-manager, it connects successfully but I can't get any traffic through it, all traffic is dropped at the first hop and never makes it to the internet :(
[08:07] <knightwise> I use sshuttle for my vpn :( Wish i could help you out
[08:17] <diddledan> Azelphur: there's a sysctl and you might need to tweak your nat firewall table
[08:18] <diddledan> net.ip_forward?
[08:18] <diddledan> something like that
[08:18] <davmor2> Morning all
[08:18] <diddledan> the sysctl is commented-out in /etc/sysctl.conf
[08:19] <Azelphur> diddledan, pretty sure I did that, it's in that document
[08:20] <Azelphur> yea, /proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_forward is 1
[08:21] <brobostigon> morning boys and girls.
[08:21] <diddledan> what does iptables -tnat -L FORWARD say?
[08:21] <Azelphur> brobostigon, afternoon :p
[08:22] <brobostigon> morning Azelphur :)
[08:22] <Azelphur> diddledan, no chain/target/match by that name
[08:22] <diddledan> aha
[08:22] <Azelphur> brobostigon, well, 01:22 :P
[08:22] <Azelphur> diddledan, I used ufw, does ufw modify iptables rules?
[08:22] <diddledan> you don't have the relevant iptables module loaded then, mayhaps
[08:22] <Azelphur> interesting
[08:23] <brobostigon> Azelphur: good point, :)
[08:23] <diddledan> yes ufw is a front-end to iptables
[08:23] <Azelphur> wonder what module I would need
[08:23] <Azelphur> if that is even the problem
[08:23] <diddledan> you want the nat module (I forget what it's called)
[08:24] <diddledan> ipt_nat maybe?
[08:24] <Azelphur> how would I load it?
[08:24] <diddledan> modprobe
[08:24] <Azelphur> don't know my iptables foo :P
[08:29] <Azelphur> looks like I already have iptable_nat loaded
[08:29] <foobarry> https://community.openvpn.net/openvpn/wiki/BridgingAndRouting
[08:31] <Azelphur> yay, another massive long doc to read lol
[08:31] <Azelphur> I think I'll call it a night and attack it again tomorrow maybe
[08:33] <foobarry> scroll down to iptables rules
[08:34] <JamesTait> Good morning all; happy Friday and happy Teach Your Children to Save Day! :-D
[08:34] <Azelphur> yea, I'll wanna read through that first though since I really don't wanna loose access to this machine while I'm in LA :)
[08:34] <diddledan> save the world?
[08:34] <diddledan> save the whales?
[08:34] <diddledan> save the rainforests?
[08:34] <diddledan> save the last dance?
[08:36] <Azelphur> In thanks for your assistance, I present to you a photo I took today of Americas hilarious attempt to do Fish and Chips. https://www.dropbox.com/s/nsyljlgcqwkr1om/2015-04-23%2021.15.58.jpg?dl=0
[08:36] <diddledan> err
[08:36] <foobarry> is that real
[08:36] <Azelphur> yes, it is real
[08:36] <foobarry> so so wrong
[08:36] <diddledan> did you request it or was it actually a menu item?
[08:37] <Azelphur> it was actually a menu item, my boss requested it
[08:37] <diddledan> that's just .. no words!
[08:37] <diddledan> what flavour were the crisps?
[08:37] <JamesTait> diddledan, save the cheerleader!
[08:37] <Azelphur> lmao
[08:38] <Azelphur> diddledan, not sure lol
[08:38] <diddledan> JamesTait: you, sir, deserve to win the internet with that response
[08:38] <Azelphur> This was in Dave and Busters, Irvine Spectrum, CA, USA :P
[08:39] <JamesTait> diddledan, happy to be of service. :-P
[08:40] <foobarry> did you educate them as to the error of teir ways?
[08:40] <diddledan> in related news, I hear they're doing a spinoff of heros?
[08:41] <foobarry> oh no
[08:41] <foobarry> is it called x-men?
[08:43] <Azelphur> foobarry, no I just sat there giggling
[08:46] <JamesTait> diddledan, I didn't know that. Do you have details? I might start watching TV again for that.
[08:46] <Azelphur> anyway bedtime, adios folks
[08:51] <diddledan> JamesTait: last I heard they'd signed up the guy with the horn-rimmed specs (noah?)
[08:52] <diddledan> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heroes_Reborn_(miniseries)
[08:52] <diddledan> mini being 13 episodes
[08:52] <foobarry> there is nothing new in US TV
[08:52] <foobarry> same old churn
[08:54] <JamesTait> diddledan, right, Noah. Might be worth a watch.
[08:54] <JamesTait> diddledan, thanks for that.
[08:55] <JamesTait> foobarry, I wholeheartedly agree, but I think you can drop the US part - there's just nothing new in TV lately.
[08:56] <foobarry> i watched nathan barley yesterday for the first time
[08:56] <foobarry> i was off work unwell
[08:56] <foobarry> it didn't help
[08:56] <foobarry> something about it made me feel sick
[08:57] <JamesTait> diddledan, the 16-second trailer doesn't give anything away, does it? :-P
[08:57] <diddledan> nope
[08:58] <foobarry> have you seen that game called after the rapture
[08:58] <foobarry> done by the dear esther ppl
[09:04] <knightwise> currently watching Arrow and just finished elementary
[09:05] <knightwise> its the only superhero thing I can stand
[09:08] <diddledan> I know lucy liu doubles as a secret agent in charlie's angels but I'm not sure even with that history qualifies as elementary being superhero
[09:08] <diddledan> :-p
[09:16] <knightwise> mental superhero :)
[09:22] <knightwise> I watched the first episode of daredevil
[09:22] <knightwise> not impressed
[09:29] <diplo> I didn't mind it
[09:30] <knightwise> I never liked daredevill either so .. it might be that
[09:57] <ujjain> is there anything I can do to prevent mucus production? it seems just crazy right now, so much, i have a cold obviously, but have to clean my nose eveyr 5min
[09:59] <popey> there's medications you can take to dry your nose
[10:03] <davmor2> ujjain: it might be hayfever
[10:03] <ujjain> I don't know, I think I was too opstimistic going outside
[10:03] <ujjain> not dressed too much, seeing sun
[10:03] <ujjain> I get colds so easily
[10:03] <davmor2> ujjain: try some 1 a day antihistamine
[10:04] <ujjain> do they sell that in a supermarket?
[10:04] <popey> yes
[10:06] <davmor2> ujjain: yeap just look for the hayfever tablets, there are 2 types loza<something>10 mg and citrizine-<something> 10mg as the active ingredient they are pretty cheap so I would get a pack of each to figure out which is the one that works best for you.
[10:07] <davmor2> ujjain: just one a day though
[10:07] <ujjain> yeah sure,
[10:08] <ujjain> we have a tesco near work I think, i'll search for it and try to get something like that, just 1 yeah
[10:09] <davmor2> ujjain: cetirizine and loratadine are the 2 chemicals
[10:09] <davmor2> I was close
[10:09] <ujjain> http://www.tesco.com/groceries/Product/Details/?id=262736984
[10:09] <davmor2> ujjain: you might want to look at this and see if it matches your symptoms though http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Allergic_rhinitis
[10:10] <davmor2> ujjain: that the type yes
[10:10] <ujjain> I don't get outside much, I do have colds very often,
[10:12] <davmor2> ujjain: hayfever gives you the same kinda symptoms as a cold but it just keeps lasting and tends to be worse on dry days and windy days, rainy days will lower the pollen count, It tends to kick in now and last till september-ish
[10:12] <ujjain> thanks by the way for thinking a long
[10:12] <ujjain> well, it's just that I woke up today and yesterday at few times having to clean my nose, bit tricky sleeping again and now will spend 2-3 days traveling
[10:13] <ujjain> so if I could do anything to relief it, would be great
[10:13] <ujjain> the volume of mucus is insane, clean nose, reproduction very high
[10:13] <davmor2> ujjain: try it, you'll know within an hour or so if it has worked
[10:14] <ujjain> http://www.tesco.com/groceries/product/details/?id=282027318 or http://www.tesco.com/groceries/Product/Details/?id=262736984
[10:17] <ujjain> Loratadine, the least potent, but dirt cheap. Cetirizine, almost as cheap, more potent, also good in colds etc., but more sedative. Fexofenadine, potent, least sedative, but the most expensive (for now).
[10:19] <ujjain> ok, on my way to tesco for cetrizine
[10:19] <ujjain> cheers and thanks davmor2
[10:21] <knightwise> grrr .. finding a good cloud-based app to do mindmaps and that IS cross compatible with multiple operating systems is hard :)
[10:24] <davmor2> knightwise: https://www.mindmup.com/#m:new don't know if it any use
[10:24] <davmor2> knightwise: I think this is the one I was looking for though https://www.mindmeister.com/
[10:35] <knightwise> yep took a look at mindmup . Its pretty ok :) I found out how to save the documents in google drive
[10:36] <knightwise> mindmeister has a good mobile client
[10:36] <knightwise> but you can only make about 2 mindmaps with them
[10:36] <knightwise> i'm currently working on 4 different presentations/workshops so ...
[10:39] <zmoylan-pi> well you could have all 4 mind maps centred around you as a focal point in one BIG mind map :-)
[10:40] <davmor2> knightwise: mindmeister is the one I'd used previously I guess you have to pay for more than 2 then right?
[10:43] <knightwise> correct :) ... And i'm too much of a scrooge for that :p
[10:49] <davmor2> knightwise: well these guys have to keep their staff paid some how ;)
[10:57] <zmoylan-pi> post-its and close all the windows and turn off any fans for the cheap version...
[11:00] <davmor2> knightwise: imgurl is free, just take photos/screenshots of the mind maps and post them there ;)
[11:04] <knightwise> davmor2: erm ... they are my intellectual copyright :)
[11:04] <knightwise> i can also just take screenshots and keep them on local storage .
[11:04] <knightwise> the mind maps are the "scaffolding" for the eventual presentations
[11:04] <davmor2> knightwise: then pay and protect it damn it ;)
[11:05] <knightwise> LOL :
[11:05] <knightwise> I have figured out how to do it with mindmup
[11:05] <knightwise> i save them on my google drive and open them from there
[11:05] <zmoylan-pi> but that would be such a precedent. probably need to go and pay for winzip if you did that... :-)
[11:05] <davmor2> knightwise: fair enough :)
[11:06] <davmor2> zmoylan-pi: and then next the operating system that you use
[11:06] * zmoylan-pi stands up and says 'i'm a freeloading gobdaw and proud of it!!' :-)
[11:12] <knightwise> That WOULD shock the internets
[11:12] <knightwise> paying for winzip !
[11:15] <diddledan> pkzip ftw!
[11:17] <diddledan> I wonder why nobody has released a zip program called "zippy zip zip"
[11:17] <popey> i found an old cd backup I'd burned in 1997, which contained all collection of compression tools
[11:17] <popey> arj, lharc, pkzip, pkarc etc
[11:17] <diddledan> arj and lharc, now those are esoteric
[11:18] <zmoylan-pi> first one i used was pak
[11:18] <davmor2> popey: no cpio?
[11:19] <diddledan> cpio is still useful for initrds
[11:20] <popey> no, i didnt have cpio or tar back then
[11:21] <davmor2> popey: slacker ;)
[11:25] <diddledan> yey for issue reply - I wrote: "please test the kahunas out of this - while it seems to be working for me, I'm unconvinced due to the relative ease it seemed to be to get it to do <feature> - I'm perfectly willing to accept that I'm a genius though ;-)."
[11:27] <zmoylan-pi> i suspect if i search this system i'll find pkzip 2.04g exe somewhere on it... :-)
[11:28] <knightwise> Winrar ftw è
[11:36] <awilkins> Bah : lvmcache doesn't work on root partition (well, it does, but you can never boot it again...) : https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/lvm2/+bug/1423796
[11:36] <lubotu3`> Ubuntu bug 1423796 in lvm2 (Ubuntu) "Unable to mount lvmcache root device at boot time" [High,Confirmed]
[12:44] <foobarry> i thought chrome was sandboxed and never crashed the whole app? thats gubbins
[12:45] <zmoylan-pi> hmm dropbox now seem to want me to sign in just to download a file from link sent. that's... annoying
[12:45] <foobarry> almost as bad as pinterest
[12:45] <zmoylan-pi> enough to make me stop using the
[12:45] <zmoylan-pi> *them
[12:56] <davmor2> ujjain: how are you feeling now?
[12:56] <ujjain> my nose is clearer, still high mocus production, but it's better
[12:56] <davmor2> \o/
[12:56] <ujjain> hehe thanks
[13:48] <diddledan> yey, pay's gone-in
[13:48] <diddledan> I has money
[13:49] <diddledan> y'all aren't getting any of it tho! :-p
[13:52] <MartijnVdS> diddledan: aww pwease
[13:52] <MartijnVdS> *puppy-dog eyes*
[13:53] * diddledan sets aboutpaying bills
[13:53] <zmoylan-pi> and taking MartijnVdS to vet?
[13:55] <foobarry> hello MartijnVdS don't hear from you much nowadays
[13:55] <foobarry> new job?
[13:55] <MartijnVdS> lots of busy at work
[13:55] <MartijnVdS> yeah, new job since.. 1.5 years now 8-)
[14:23] <diddledan> phoo that's the accountancy stuff done
[14:23] <diddledan> doing the books is a pain
[14:40] <daftykins> :(
[14:40] <daftykins> that reminds me, i'm still in denial about doing last years tax return
[14:40] <diddledan> lol
[14:40] <diddledan> do you get until january to file it?
[14:43] <daftykins> well, they've not actually finalised 2013's yet =/
[14:43] <daftykins> our gov is majorly behind
[14:44] <daftykins> i think they usually say April odd
[14:51] <diddledan> on the mainland we have tax-year ending somewhen around the first week of april and then for self-assessment income tax you have until january 31st to file your return
[14:52] <zmoylan-pi> you couldn't expect accountants to do paperwork with christmas party hangover and photocopiers still broken from same party :-)
[14:53] <diddledan> zmoylan-pi: yeah photocopier breakage is commonplace I hear, due to bottom-scanning
[14:53] <zmoylan-pi> and people are getting bigger
[14:53] <zmoylan-pi> and booze is getting cheaper
[14:54] <daftykins> ;)
[14:54] <daftykins> surely it isn't...
[14:55] <diddledan> tories just reduce beer tax
[14:55] <diddledan> reduced**
[14:55] <zmoylan-pi> well if you count the toilet duck knockoffs at aldi and lidl :-)
[14:55] <daftykins> heh, those shops don't exist down here
[14:56] <daftykins> i was really blown away stepping into one in Portsmouth though, feels like you're walking into somewhere in Europe
[14:56] <davmor2> daftykins: wash your mouth out ;)
[14:57] <diddledan> I visited spain back around 1999 and one shop had straw on the floor
[14:57] <diddledan> I think they decided against normal flooring
[14:57] <zmoylan-pi> you walk in for some cornflakes and leave with a cheap arc welder as well :-)
[14:58] <diddledan> zmoylan-pi: I'm not sure that's what it's meant for
[14:58] <zmoylan-pi> yeah, i don't like their knock off cornflakes either :-D
[14:58] <diddledan> I mean yes technically the extension cord can be used to weld things due to it's shoddy craftmanship but it's not actually a real arc0welder
[15:10] <daftykins> XD
[16:05] <awilkins> Ok : trying to set up a VM with both i) LUKS and ii) lvmcache
[16:05] <awilkins> Have a feeling I'm layering it the wrong way
[16:06] <awilkins> What I'm doing at present is installing Vivid with encryption on, then applying lvmcache
[16:06] <awilkins> It refuses to boot
[16:10] <awilkins> Forming a plan
[16:26] <bashrc> upgraded to 15.04 final release, but wifi now seems to be dropping out at random
[16:26] <bashrc> the driver is rt61pci
[16:34] <awilkins> Whaaat.
[16:34] <awilkins> Installed Synaptic in 15.04. The quick filter box has gone.
[16:35] * awilkins has a big strop
[16:36] <awilkins> Oh, ok, an apt-get update and a restart has fixed it
[16:36] <awilkins> *phew*
[16:36] <elfy> lol
[16:37] <elfy> I remember thinking that a couple of cycles ago
[16:37] <awilkins> I was thinking "WHat have those crazy GNOME devs done now?"
[16:37] <awilkins> SIMPLIFIED UI
[16:37] <awilkins> IT'S FOR YOUR OWN GOOD
[16:38] <daftykins> :D
[16:41] <awilkins> Ok, so trying to do lvmcache / dm-cache on no-encryption Ubuntu didn't work either
[16:41] <awilkins> So I'm doing something wrong
[16:41] <awilkins> Following the instructions for Debian Jessie that people helpfully posted like this one : http://www.bradfordembedded.com/2015/03/lvmcache/
[16:42] <awilkins> Oh, ok
[16:43] <awilkins> "Incompatible libdevmapper and kernel driver"
[16:51] <bashrc> trying a different wifi adaptor, rt73usb, otherwise it's annoying to have the network drop out every few minues
[16:52] <bashrc> only seems to happen on 15.04
[16:54] <davmor2> awilkins: you are following a debian plan and expecting it to just work on Ubuntu how crazy are you ;)
[16:56] <bashrc> well ubuntu is just debian with some fancy UI :)
[17:02] <bashrc> heh https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z1m71msel2Q
[17:04] <bashrc> it's not rolling release afaik
[17:15] <diddledan> bashrc: I really despise those videos
[17:17] <daftykins> diddledan: you're gonna love this, hostpapa got back to my mate about the cookie.js file
[17:17] <diddledan> oh yeah?
[17:17] <daftykins> they're asking for... *drumroll* his home IP to unblock via mod_security or some such 0o
[17:18] <diddledan> how will that help for random visitors?
[17:18] <daftykins> indeed. plus we're on dynamic IPs over here
[17:18] <daftykins> i'm starting to think he should move to a competent host / VPS
[17:18] <diddledan> does everyone who wants to see his site have to know ahead of time to tell hostpapa that they're dropping-by?
[17:19] <daftykins> only if they want to log in and see the menu it seems :D
[17:19] <diddledan> craycray
[17:25] <diddledan_> t'other pc is going down in a mo for yesterday evening's win10 build install
[17:26] <daftykins> ooh-err
[17:27] <bashrc> well the network is still up, I suspect there may be some kernel driver snafu with my other adaptor
[17:29] * bashrc resumes battle with emacs
[17:31] <diddledan> is it april the 1st? http://mysteriousuniverse.org/2015/04/nasa-may-have-accidentally-developed-a-warp-drive/
[17:33] <ali1234> why does "ubuntu-bug krita" report a bug against calligra?
[17:33] <ali1234> what even is calligra?
[17:34] <diddledan_> calligra is a drawing prog?
[17:34] <elfy> kde office suite afaik
[17:46] <diddledan_> and we're in the reboot loop
[17:46] <diddledan_> (win10 install)
[17:46] <diddledan_> "your pc needs to restart several times.........."
[17:48] <daftykins> :D
[17:48] <daftykins> with the circular %?
[17:48] <diddledan_> yup
[17:48] <diddledan_> "sit back and relax"
[17:48] <daftykins> lul mates hosting co. came back again "please give us your IP to check and disable the rules"
[17:49] <daftykins> they won't even explain themselves 0o
[17:49] <diddledan_> they suck
[17:49] <daftykins> i think he's understanding why he's paying so little now
[17:49] <diddledan_> it seems to be the sanest option to find a small outfit who'll admin a vps for you which is entirely dedicated to you
[17:50] <ali1234> what do you mean "explain themselves"
[17:50] <ali1234> it's a very simple request
[17:50] <daftykins> as to why they're blocking a single .js file on my mates site
[17:50] <daftykins> it 404s when you try to view it :)
[17:51] <ali1234> url?
[17:51] <daftykins> you not seen a 404 before? :P
[17:51] <ali1234> no
[17:51] <diddledan_> failwhale
[17:52] <daftykins> http://test2.multilingualhub.com/misc/jquery.cookie.js
[17:53] <diddledan_> it really is there
[17:53] <diddledan_> we've verified that the file exists (well, daftykins did)
[17:53] <daftykins> so what i'm saying is his host does not explain why they block a single file
[17:54] <ali1234> they don't
[17:54] <ali1234> it's mod_security
[17:54] <ali1234> they told you that
[17:54] <daftykins> i feel like you're just slicing hairs really
[17:54] <daftykins> and oddly they're asking my mate for his home IP which isn't going to solve much for someone on dynamic
[17:54] <diddledan_> or random bypassers
[17:55] <ali1234> they want to whitelist him to see if it fixes the problem
[17:55] <diddledan_> it's a public file whose lack of oading breaks the site
[17:55] <ali1234> they want to whitelist him in mod_security which is part of drupal and therefore technically not their problem
[17:55] <daftykins> i don't see why it's setup to be blocked at all
[17:55] <diddledan_> mod_security is NOT part of drupal
[17:56] <diddledan_> mod_security is an apache thing
[17:56] <ali1234> seems to me that they've gone above and beyond to try to solve the problem in the software that your mate chose, and all you can do is slag them off for it?
[17:56] <ali1234> diddledan so it is
[17:56] <daftykins> *blink*
[17:56] <ali1234> then i guess their site is just plain broken
[17:56] <daftykins> not sure why you're so quick to defend them
[17:57] <ali1234> same reason that you're quick to attack them?
[17:57] <daftykins> well no because there's been a lengthy to and fro between him and the host already
[17:57] <ali1234> but probably because i have too much experience dealing with the mess caused by people installing CMS systems that they have no idea how to use
[17:57] <daftykins> you're attempting to judge on limited information which is a little strange to be honest
[17:58] <daftykins> heh, well that's a given here because he is new to it and i did warn against this approach
[17:59] <ali1234> https://www.drupal.org/node/522646 lol
[18:00] <ali1234> get a better host
[18:00] <daftykins> heh
[18:00] <daftykins> given it's a mates issue i hadn't even considered searching about it, in fact he'd already posted the issue to their support forum afaiui
[18:02] <ali1234> if you're feeling bored give them your IP and then complain it doesn't work on your friends computer
[18:02] <ali1234> repeat until you or they get fed up
[18:04] <zmoylan-pi> the people they hire on tech support these days aren't smart enough to get fed up. otherwise they'd never show up to work :-P
[18:04] <diddledan_> so the upstream fixed it 4 years ago. wtf out-dated operating system and ruleset version are hostpapa running?!
[18:05] <daftykins> :D
[18:06] <diddledan_> I'm betting they're using Red Hat 7.3
[18:06] <daftykins> ali1234: well, thanks for sharing that :D
[18:06] <daftykins> hmm i could ask him to ask on the next reply
[18:06] <ali1234> diddledan i doubt they paid for it. it will be centos
[18:06] <diddledan_> (7.3 is circa 1999)
[18:07] <diddledan_> ali1234: no, they're running pre-centos
[18:07] <diddledan_> :-p
[18:07] <ali1234> i kind of doubt that too
[18:07] <diddledan_> teehee
[18:08] <ali1234> did upstream (mod_security) really fix it?
[18:08] <ali1234> drupal can't fix it, they can only provide a workaround
[18:08] <diddledan_> according to that thread
[18:09] <ali1234> i can't see where it says that
[18:09] <diddledan_> https://www.drupal.org/node/522646#comment-3593238
[18:09] <ali1234> every single offsite link in the thread is broken
[18:10] <ali1234> yeah that 404s
[18:11] <daftykins> trust him to find an issue tbh :D
[18:11] <diddledan_> well 5 years is a long time to keep a url in-sync (though I'm a proponent of always ensuring urls point in the right place via redirects on obsolete addresses)
[18:13] <diddledan_> so I went ahead and plundered my piggy bank for 3 new 3TB drives
[18:14] <diddledan_> couldn't quite justify 4TB ones
[18:14] <diddledan_> plus. amazon were out of stock of 4TB REDs
[18:15] <diddledan_> gonna have a fun sunday afternoon replacing one drive at a time
[18:15] <diddledan_> (I went for the delivery tomorrow)
[18:16] <daftykins> :D
[18:16] <diddledan_> I accidentally matched them with a set of ECC rams, per m0nkey_'s insistence
[18:16] <daftykins> haha
[18:17] <zmoylan-pi> now you just need to set up the laser beams and bells attached to trip wires to prevent the 'while you were out cards' ninja deliveries...
[18:17] <daftykins> that's a good idea when there's no proper funky RAID setup
[18:17] <diddledan_> lol
[18:17] <daftykins> ugh i dobbed in the postie at my parents place when one did that
[18:17] <daftykins> ring the doorbell and RUN!
[18:17] <zmoylan-pi> why is the postman standing on the road 10foot from house with a long pointy stick...
[18:18] <diddledan_> zmoylan-pi: long pointy sticks ftw
[18:18] * diddledan_ waves his long pointy stick in all your faces
[18:18] <daftykins> you may mean the finglonger - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_P1bu4HUAMs
[18:18] <diddledan_> lol
[18:19] <zmoylan-pi> no the finglonger involves the deaths of too many, the long pointy stick is good enough :-P
[18:20] <diddledan_> should I put the lasers on sharks' heads (for the interception of delivery guys)
[18:21] <zmoylan-pi> only if you can arrange a trip wire that drops them on the delivery guy without voiding the warranty of the drives been delivered...
[18:21] <diddledan_> ah
[18:21] <diddledan_> good point
[18:21] <diddledan_> hmm
[18:21] <diddledan_> now I'm stuck in a quandry
[18:21] <zmoylan-pi> once you add sharks it's hard to make the warranties survive g shock or moisture exposure...
[18:22] <zmoylan-pi> and of course explosions of scube gear
[18:22] <diddledan_> yeah, but without the sharks the delivery guy gets away
[18:22] <zmoylan-pi> perhaps squid are more grabby...
[18:22] <diddledan_> hmm
[18:22] <diddledan_> that's a good thought
[18:23] <zmoylan-pi> and the massive tentacles wrapped around front door won't give the game away. a simple plant card saying it's squid ivy...
[18:24] <m0nkey_> diddledan_, motherboard and cpu support ECC I hope.
[18:25] <diddledan_> m0nkey_: according to the guaranteed compatibility on crucial's selector wizard
[18:25] <diddledan_> if not I'll ljust send it back and claim my refund
[18:26] <davmor2> diddledan: www.youtube.com/watch?v=VDW0ZnZxjn4
[18:26] <diddledan_> lol
[18:28] <m0nkey_> what CPU?
[18:29] <diddledan_> bulldozer
[18:29] <m0nkey_> ah, you'll be okay then
[18:30] <m0nkey_> a buddy of mine has one with ECC
[18:30] <diddledan_> first gen 8core thingy
[18:30] <m0nkey_> welcome to the ECC master race
[18:31] <daftykins> ooh they've disabled the mod_security rule
[18:40] <diddledan> and windows 10 is running
[18:40] <zmoylan-pi> for /levels/ of 'running' :-P
[18:42] <diddledan> gotta install a firmware update by the looks - brb - this one will (should) be mucho quicker..o
[18:42] * zmoylan-pi starts betting pool on how long...
[18:44] <diddledan> back
[18:44] * zmoylan-pi pays the winner
[18:45] * diddledan fires up spartan
[18:45] <diddledan> looks like they fixed the favourites-bar misalignment
[18:46] <zmoylan-pi> aroo!! \o/
[18:49] <diddledan> there's two bugs filed
[19:01] <diddledan> and another
[20:11] <daftykins> diddledan: did y'see i mentioned they unblocked it now and all works \o/ so you win teh prize!
[20:12] <diddledan> yey
[20:12] <daftykins> also, no specific OS info exactly, but he screenshot me his cpanel which refers to a 2.6.32 kernel
[20:12] <daftykins> and apache 2.2.29
[20:12] <diddledan> oh golly
[20:12] <daftykins> *shrug*
[20:12] <diddledan> at least the kernel is in the .6 series and not the .4 :-p
[20:13] <daftykins> :D
[20:13] <ali1234> so centos 6 then
[20:15] <daftykins> it did seem to have lv in the kernel name if that's any clue
[20:15] <daftykins> oh lve
[20:16] <daftykins> 2.6.32-531.29.2.lve1.3.11.1
[20:16] <daftykins> cloudlinux? 0o
[20:30] <foobarry> popey: http://support.lenovo.com/us/en/documents/hf004122
[20:30] <foobarry> battery recall on lots of thinkpad
[20:30] <daftykins> :O
[20:31] <foobarry> http://www.applianceretailer.com.au/2015/04/lenovo-recalls-more-thinkpad-lithium-ion-batteries-that-could-overheat-and-start-fires
[20:31] <foobarry> second link not necessary, just lenovo
[20:32] <directhex_> 10 has a usable music app
[20:32] <directhex_> 8 does not
[20:32] <directhex_> i'm talking to scrollback ¬_¬
[20:35] <diddledan> directhex_: oops
[23:20] <Azelphur> Anyone know anything about running a virtual machine with either Ubuntu Touch or Android as the host?
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[06:23] <pragomer> hallo. ich suche einen channel (englisch/deutsch) wo ich eine spezielle frage zu einem ubuntu-remastering stellen könnte. weiß jemand sowas?
[06:45] <stevieh> remastering?
[07:08] <pragomer> hi stevieh. kennst du dich da aus?
[07:09] <stevieh> nö
[07:09] <stevieh> aber frag halt
[07:11] <pragomer> Ich versuche ein Xubuntu mit dieser Anleitung zu "remastern": http://wiki.ubuntuusers.de/LiveCD_manuell_remastern Das klappt gut. Nur möchte ich auch z.B. Panel-Einträge hinzufügen, das einfach "Kopieren" in /home/xubuntu/.config/usw... geht aber nicht, da das Skelett dies wohl ignoriert. Aber auch wenn ich es in /etc/skel/.config kopiere, geht es nicht.
[07:11] <kubine> pragomer: Title: LiveCD manuell remastern › Wiki › ubuntuusers.de (at wiki.ubuntuusers.de)
[07:13] <pragomer> Im Prinzip klappt es nicht, dass ich ein Konfig-File in der Live-CD rauskopiere und dann in "etc/skel" wieder einfüge, da der LIve-Benutzer doch wieder ein "frisches" Konfig-File bekommt, nicht das angepasste..
[07:13] <pragomer> Ja, nach dem Wiki bin ich vorgegangen kubine
[07:14] <pragomer> Hab auch das hier probiert:
[07:14] <pragomer> http://askubuntu.com/questions/169930/how-to-customize-xubuntu-with-remastersys
[07:14] <kubine> pragomer: Title: xfce - How to customize Xubuntu with remastersys? - Ask Ubuntu (at askubuntu.com)
[07:16] <pragomer> Ja, den Artikel hatte ich wie du siehst, auch gefunden, danke.
[07:19] <stevieh> ne, da müsste ich mich auch durchkämpfen... sorry
[07:21] <pragomer> np
[11:17] <eTedd> Hi, ich habe soeben eine Deigital Devices Cine S2 eingebaut. Wie kann ich testen ob die Karte erkannt wurde und ob ich was empfange? lsmod zeigt mir ein Modul ddbridge, cxd2009 und dvb_core an
[11:18] <dadrc> ich würd ein dvb-programm installieren und gucken, obs geht :)
[11:19] <dadrc> http://wiki.ubuntuusers.de/TV hat 'ne ordentliche Liste
[11:19] <kubine> dadrc: Title: TV › Wiki › ubuntuusers.de (at wiki.ubuntuusers.de)
[11:20] <ppq> die müsste eigentlich OOTB funktionieren
[11:26] <eTedd> Fehler gefunden, Kabel kaputt
[11:49] <deus_> hi
[11:53] <deus_> ist jemand anwesend oder sind alle auf arbeit ? ^^
[11:53] <dadrc> irgendwer ist bestimmt da.
[11:53] <deus_> ah kk
[11:53] * eTedd ist da
[11:55] <deus_> na dann frage ich einfach mal: Ich will einen meiner kumpels auf Linux bringen. deswegen würde ich gerne einen IRC-client so einrichten, dass er damit sofort in diesen channel hier kommt und wenn nötig fragen kann. (also einen direkt-support anschluss)
[11:55] <eTedd> der Sendersuchlauf braucht ja ganz schön lange schon > 30 Minuten
[11:55] <deus_> welche Clients würdet ihr da empfehlen und wie configuriere ich das am besten?
[11:55] <eTedd> deus_, irssi
[11:58] <dadrc> irssi ist wirklich nicht der richtige Client für Anfänger
[11:58] <dadrc> irssi ist wirklich nicht der richtige Client für Anfänger
[11:58] <dadrc> Hexchat oder Konversation
[11:58] <deus_> es wird wahrscheinlich ein Mint, oder ubuntu system. ist da konversation noch tragbar? ist ja ne KDE anwendung
[11:59] <dadrc> Dann nimm halt Hexchat
[11:59] <deus_> k ich versuche es mal! danke erstmal, war auch mein erster IRC chat versuch ^^
[12:01] <koegs> deus_: wenn es ein mint wird, kannst du ihn auch direkt auf den richtigen channel verweisen :)
[12:05] <Mrokii> Hallo. Ich hab ein Upgrade von 14.10 auf 15.04 versucht und nun bin ich in irgend einer Art von "emergency Mode"-Konsole. Kann mir da jemand weiterhelfen?
[12:06] <dadrc> Mrokii, was steht denn da so?
[12:07] <Mrokii> Moment, ich starte grade neu, auch wenn das wohl nichts bringen wird.
[12:07] <Mrokii> Also erstmal kommt die Meldung "starting version 219"
[12:08] <Mrokii> dann verschiedene "error:" Zeilen mit "dev/sde: no Medium found (das selbe mit weiteren Bezeichnungen wie sdef sdeg sdd usw.
[12:09] <dadrc> da werden irgendwelche festplatten nicht gefunden
[12:09] <Mrokii> Und zuletzt: "Welcome to emergency mode! After logging in, type journalctl -x to view system logs, systemctl reboot to rebooot, systemctl default to try again to boot into default mode.
[12:10] <dadrc> journalctl -x klingt nach einer guten Idee
[12:10] <Mrokii> Das sollte journalctrl -xb heißen.
[12:10] <dadrc> na, dann gib das mal ein
[12:11] <Mrokii> ich weiß aber nicht, wonach ich da schauen soll. Das it ein ellenlanges Logfile.
[12:11] <dadrc> hat die kiste gerade internet?
[12:12] <Mrokii> Im Momen nicht, aber ich denke ich hab irgendwo noch ein Netzwerkkabel, Moment.
[12:14] <Mrokii> Mist, geht leider nicht. Ich hab hier im Zimmer nur einen Anschluss und kein Kabel das lang genug ist um an den Router zu kommen. :-./
[12:16] <dadrc> Handy, "Screenshot" machen, hochladen?
[12:16] <dadrc> Letztes Stück ist wahrscheinlich am interessantesten
[12:19] <Mrokii> Ich muss mal schauen ob ich die Kiste irgendwie ans Netz kriege, so bringt das nichts, weil ich nur Bahnhof verstehe. Da stehen gegen Ende einige SystemD-Nachrchten, aber nichts was auf den ersten Blick nach Fehler aussieht.
[12:23] <Mrokii> Ich melde mich mal ab und versuche, mich von einem anderen Zimmer aus einzuloggen, so dass ich die Ubuntu-Maschine wieder ans Netz bekomme, falls das was hilft.
[12:29] <Mrokii> dadrc, so, bin wieder da.Das Ethernetkabel ist wieder an der Ubuntu Maschine dran.
[12:30] <dadrc> Mrokii, dann guck mal, ob pastebinit in der Rescueconsole funktioniert
[12:31] <Mrokii> ja, das gbt es.
[12:31] <Mrokii> also kann ausgeführt werden.
[12:32] <Mrokii> Meine Festplatten sind übrigens "da", habe sie mir mit "df -h" anzeigen lassen.
[12:33] <Mrokii> dadrc, Brauchst du das Ergebnis dieses journalctl-Befehls?
[12:34] <dadrc> die ausgabe wäre interessant, ja
[12:34] <dadrc> irgendwie müssen wir ja erstmal rauskriegen, was kaputt ist
[12:35] <Mrokii> Wie genau funktioniert pastebinit? also was muss ich da eingeben?
[12:39] <dadrc> journalctl -x | pastebinit
[12:39] <dadrc> bzw, -xb
[12:40] <Mrokii> das hab ich probiert, bringt mir aber einen socketfehler -2, name or service unknown.
[12:41] <dadrc> dann geht das internet nicht
[12:41] <Mrokii> Mist.
[12:42] <dadrc> dann muss wohl die härtere variante her. erstell dir ein livesystem (usb oder cd, egal), start davon und lad die logs von da hoch+
[12:43] <Mrokii> Ich hab noch eine alte 12.x Version drauf. Ich könnte schauen ob die noch tut. Moment.
[12:50] <dadrc> Mrokii, ich bin kurz afk, du kannst schon mal das Log besorgen. Wahrscheinlich musst du dafür einen chroot in dein neues System machen, siehe http://wiki.ubuntuusers.de/chroot/Live-CD
[12:50] <kubine> dadrc: Title: Live-CD › chroot › Wiki › ubuntuusers.de (at wiki.ubuntuusers.de)
[12:58] <Mrokii> dadrc, nach ein paar Fehlversuchen habe ich die Datei jetzt vermutlich. Versuche gleich mal, sie hochzuladen.
[13:06] <Mrokii> Oder auch nicht... Muss mal schauen. Mist, echt. :-/
[13:09] <Mrokii> Ich schätze, das kann ich vergessen. Ich finde die Datei nicht, wenn ich in 12.x boote und kann dort auch nur auf eine TTY zurckgreifen.
[13:10] <Mrokii> Vielleicht muss ich mir 15.04 auf eine DVD brennen und neu installieren.
[13:12] <geser> dem alten Mount-Skript welches von sysrc (und auch upstart) genutzt wurde, war es egal, ob ein Eintrag in der fstab nicht gemountet werden konnte (implizites nofail), systemd erwartet, dass die Mount-Points ohne nofail als Option auch gemountet werden können
[13:12] <geser> also müssen jetzt mount-Einträge, die fehlen dürfen (also für das Booten nicht relevant sind) mit einem nofail in der /etc/fstab versehen sein
[13:17] <dadrc> das könnte einen versuch wert sein
[13:20] <Mrokii> kann man nicht wieder auf upstart umstellen? systemd ist das neue System, oder?
[13:20] <k1l> man kann. aber das ist halt keine dauerlösung weil upstart begraben wurde wegen systemd
[13:21] <geser> ja, unter "Advanced options" müsstest du noch einen Boot-Eintrag für upstart haben
[13:21] <Mrokii> Ich komme ja an keine grafische Oberfläche im Moment.
[13:21] <geser> im grub
[13:21] <Mrokii> Da kenne ich mich leider nicht aus. :-/
[13:24] <Mrokii> Oh, wow, ich hab das Proble!
[13:25] <Mrokii> geser, Deine Anmerkung hat geholfen! Ich hatte unter 14.10 immer ein Problem mit dem Mounten des CD-Laufwerks (musste den Fehler per "(s)kip" überspringen). Ich hab den Eintrag jetzt mal deaktiviert und nun startet 15.04.
[13:26] <k1l> fstab nicht richtig?
[13:26] <Mrokii> Nehme ich mal an. Es liegt wohl am fehlerhaften Eintrag für das DVD-Laufwerk.
[13:27] <Mrokii> Jedenfalls startet 15.04 jetzt erst mal wie es aussieht.
[13:34] <Mrokii_> So, hallo, bin jetzt wieder unterm Ubuntu-System da (nach auskommeniteren der CD-Laufwerk-Zeile in fstab). Vielleicht kann mir ja jemand mit dem fstab-Eintrag für mein CD-Laufwerk helfen.
[13:34] <Mrokii_> Momentan steht da folgendes:
[13:34] <Mrokii_> #/dev/cdrom /media/cdrom udf,hfsplus,iso9660 user,auto,exec,utf8 0 0
[13:35] <k1l> hast du das selber angelegt?
[13:35] <Mrokii_> Ja, ich weiß aber nicht mehr, woher ich das hatte. Vermutlich irgendwo aus den Weiten des Internet.
[13:35] <Mrokii_> Ich glaube, mein CD-Laufwerk wurde damals nicht mehr erkannt.
[13:36] <Mrokii> Mit dem Eintrag konnte ich das Laufwerk zumindest wieder nutzen, aber er war halt offensichtlich nicht ganz korrekt.
[13:39] <k1l> gibts denn /dev/cdrom? gibts auch /media/cdrom?
[13:41] <Mrokii> /dev/cdrom ist wohl ein Link auf sr0 und /media/cdrom gibt es auch
[13:45] <geser> ich würde auch das "auto" bei den Optionen entfernen und sicherheitshalber stattdessen ein "nofail" einbauen
[13:47] <geser> also "/dev/cdrom /media/cdrom udf,hfsplus,iso9660 user,nofail,exec,utf8 0 0"
[13:48] <Mrokii> geser: Okay, das werde ich mal versuchen
[13:48] <Mrokii> Vielen Dank für eure Hilfe.
[13:48] <geser> ich weiß jetzt aber auch nicht, ob "udf,hfsplus,iso9660" zulässig ist/funktioniert. Die Manpage gibt das zumindest nicht her.
[13:49] <Mrokii> Ich denke ich habe das irgendwo im Internet gefunden. Muss da bei Gelegenheit noch mal nachschauen.
[15:59] <jokrebel> Mrokii: Boote doch einfach mit der selben Version ein Live-System, schau ob das CD-Laufwerk tut was es soll und nimm dann von dort den Eintrag der fstab
[16:06] <Mrokii> jokrebel: Gute Idee. :-)
[16:16] <kitikonti> hi
[16:16] <kitikonti> ich moechte auf meinen ubuntu testserver die uid eines users aendern
[16:16] <kitikonti> dazu gibt es natuerlich hauffenweise anleitungen im internet
[16:16] <kitikonti> jetzt habe ich zum beispiel diese gefunden
[16:16] <kitikonti> http://askubuntu.com/questions/312919/how-to-change-user-gid-and-uid-in-ubuntu-13-04
[16:16] <kubine> kitikonti: Title: How to change user GID and UID in Ubuntu 13.04? - Ask Ubuntu (at askubuntu.com)
[16:17] <kitikonti> meine frage ist nun fuer was ich den zweiten und eben 4ten befehl brauche?
[16:17] <kitikonti> da wird ja die id von der gruppe geaendert
[16:17] <kitikonti> was fuer eine gruppe soll das ein ?
[16:20] <jokrebel> hat nicht jeder user automatisch auch eine gruppe die heist wie der username? Diese Gruppe wird da wohl gemeint sein.
[16:22] <kitikonti> ja hab ich gerade zufaelliger weise auch wo rausgelesen
[16:22] <kitikonti> The Debian/Ubuntu policy is that if there is a user jim with user ID 1001, there is also a group jim with group ID 1001. This solution also updates those group IDs.
[16:27] <kcalb> Hi alle, seit ein paar Wochen wird auf mein Netbook kein syslog erstellt, kann mir jemand weitehelfen ?
[16:27] <kcalb> authlog ist auch leer
[16:44] <stevieh> platte voll?
[16:44] <stevieh> syslog conf anschauen?
[16:44] <stevieh> syslogd läuft?
[16:45] <stevieh> am ehesten platte voll oder rechte aus versehen vergurgt
[16:48] <kcalb> auf der platte ha ich noch ca.220 Gb frei
[16:49] <kcalb> bei sudo service syslogd status bekomme ich nur syslogd: unrecognized service
[16:50] <kcalb> kann das sein das syslog nicht installiert ist ?
[16:51] <kcalb> und muss ich syslog-ng installieren ?
[16:57] <stevieh> bei mir heisst das rsyslogd
[16:58] <stevieh> service rsyslog status
[17:01] <kcalb> bin gleich wieder da ich starte mal rechner neu
[17:11] <kcalb> stevieh, okay danke aus irgend einem grund war rsyslog nicht installiert. Danke nochmals :)
[17:25] <_d4v_d> guten abend
[17:25] <_d4v_d> ich habe ein problem mit meinem ubuntu 15.04
[17:26] <_d4v_d> kann mich nicht zu ne 5ghz wlan ap verbinden :(
[17:27] <_d4v_d> dat sind einstellungen meiner fritzbox http://paste.ubuntu.com/10879616/
[17:27] <kubine> _d4v_d: Title: Ubuntu Pastebin (at paste.ubuntu.com)
[17:27] <_d4v_d> wie muss die config datei f?r die verbindung aussehen?
[17:28] <_d4v_d> bitte ohne den network-manager
[17:32] <_d4v_d> ah ja meine wlankarte (pce ac68) ist up und hat bezeichnung wlan3
[17:32] <_d4v_d> nur laesst sich nicht zu nem 5ghz verbinden :/
[17:33] <_d4v_d> mit meinem laptop win 8.1 funzt ohne probleme
[17:36] <_d4v_d> kann mir jmd weiter helfen?
[17:38] <dadrc> _d4v_d, was sagt denn `iwlist scan`?
[17:39] <_d4v_d> dadrc, http://paste.ubuntu.com/10880090/
[17:39] <kubine> _d4v_d: Title: Ubuntu Pastebin (at paste.ubuntu.com)
[17:39] <dadrc> meh.
[17:39] <dadrc> findet garkeine wlans
[17:40] <dadrc> _d4v_d, `lspci -vvv`, bitte
[17:40] <_d4v_d> dadrc, http://paste.ubuntu.com/10880105/
[17:40] <kubine> _d4v_d: Title: Ubuntu Pastebin (at paste.ubuntu.com)
[17:41] <dadrc> ist ok, an sich, ich tippe mal darauf, dass es probleme mit der firmware gibt
[17:42] <_d4v_d> dadrc, http://paste.ubuntu.com/10880116/
[17:42] <kubine> _d4v_d: Title: Ubuntu Pastebin (at paste.ubuntu.com)
[17:43] <_d4v_d> die karte ist up
[17:43] <dadrc> ohne das grep, bitte. da fehlen ein paar zeilen drunter, in denen infos über den treiber stehen
[17:44] <dadrc> kannst den rest gerne löschen, aber die infos zu dem BCM4360 bräuchte ich komplett
[17:45] <_d4v_d> dadrc, http://paste.ubuntu.com/10880133/
[17:45] <kubine> _d4v_d: Title: Ubuntu Pastebin (at paste.ubuntu.com)
[17:48] <dadrc> _d4v_d, ist broadcom-sta-dkms installiert?
[17:48] <_d4v_d> dadrc, der befehl mit sudo http://paste.ubuntu.com/10880157/
[17:48] <kubine> _d4v_d: Title: Ubuntu Pastebin (at paste.ubuntu.com)
[17:48] <_d4v_d> dadrc, nein :/
[17:49] <dadrc> _d4v_d, dann installier das mal, das dürfte der richtige treiber sein
[17:50] <_d4v_d> dadrc, habe nur diesen installiert bcmwl-kernel-source
[17:51] <dadrc> _d4v_d, moment kurz, bite
[17:51] <_d4v_d> dadrc, klappt nicht http://paste.ubuntu.com/10880178/ :(
[17:51] <kubine> _d4v_d: Title: Ubuntu Pastebin (at paste.ubuntu.com)
[17:51] <_d4v_d> ok
[17:52] <dadrc> und was steht in dem log drin, das in der fehlermeldung erwähnt wird?
[17:53] <_d4v_d> dadrc, http://paste.ubuntu.com/10880193/
[17:53] <kubine> _d4v_d: Title: Ubuntu Pastebin (at paste.ubuntu.com)
[17:54] <dadrc> ugh, das sieht irgendwie nicht gut aus.
[17:54] <_d4v_d> :(
[17:54] <dadrc> probierst du mal `sudo apt-get --reinstall install bcmwl-kernel-source`?
[17:56] <_d4v_d> dadrc, http://paste.ubuntu.com/10880201/
[17:56] <kubine> _d4v_d: Title: Ubuntu Pastebin (at paste.ubuntu.com)
[17:56] <_d4v_d> die lassen sich installieren
[17:56] <_d4v_d> die habe ich schon vor ne stunde installiert gehant
[17:57] <_d4v_d> ich meine kompilieren f?r dkms
[17:58] <_d4v_d> ich brauche ne anst?ndige konfigurations datei f?r die fritzbox
[17:58] <_d4v_d> ich nutze kein network-manager
[17:59] <_d4v_d> ich finde auch keine anleitung f?r non-gui konfiguration des wlans :(
[18:00] <dadrc> _d4v_d, das problem ist meiner meinung nach, dass die karte beim scannen garkein wlan findet
[18:00] <dadrc> da kannst du konfigurieren, was du willst
[18:00] <_d4v_d> :/
[18:00] <_d4v_d> der network-manager sieht aber die access points
[18:00] <dadrc> und das liegt meistens an fehlender firmware
[18:01] <dadrc> oh?
[18:01] <_d4v_d> ja
[18:01] <dadrc> _d4v_d, gehts denn mit dem?
[18:39] <dreamon> 15.04 zeigt mir im Netzwerkmanager kabelnetzwerke (org.freedesktop.DBus) an. Aber ein derartiges Gerät hab ich nicht. (Nur ein Lan und ein Wlan)
[18:53] <nagetier> dreamon, muss kein physisch vorhandenes Gerät sein
[18:54] <nagetier> IMHO wird oder wurde da auch avahi ausgegeben
[18:57] <dreamon> nagetier, Das seltsame ist das er da beide verbindet. Beim einen nimmt er dhcp beim anderen eine statische Adresse. Solange ich nicht eines davon Trenne, geht das Netzwerk nicht
[18:58] <nagetier> dreamon, du musst also diese DBus Verbindung, oder was das auch immer ist, trennen, damit dein LAN WLAN funktioniert?
[18:58] <jokrebel> wie kommt der Networkmanager auf sowas? http://i.imgur.com/nYet2Z1.png ? .... ich hatte an diesem Laptop schon ewig kein LAN-Kabel mehr dran.
[18:59] <dreamon> nagetier, Ja.
[18:59] <nagetier> dreamon, 15.04?
[18:59] <dreamon> nagetier, genau
[18:59] <dreamon> Das problem trat nach upgrade von 14.10 auf 15.04 auf
[19:00] <nagetier> dreamon, ich frage nur aus interesse, habe leider keinerlei ansatzpunkte
[19:03] <dreamon> ifconfig zeigt mir eth3, ng, lo, wlan6 an. kann mich an "ng" nicht erinnern das vorher schon mal gesehen zu haben.
[19:03] <nagetier> +1
[19:03] <dreamon> ? +1
[19:03] <nagetier> dreamon, kann mich auch nicht erinnern :)
[19:04] <jokrebel> dreamon: ng ist hier (14.04.2) aber auch vorhanden
[19:05] <dreamon> Muß mal eine 15.04 live cd testen.. ob das problem dort auch auftritt
[20:10] <derloewe> Guten Abend, ich bin neu hier und würde gerne eine Frage stellen, bitte...
[20:13] <derloewe> Seit dem Update auf Kubuntu 15.04 startet Kontact nicht mehr... Hat jemand ähnliche Probleme?
[20:17] <k1l_> hmm, hab selber kein kde laufen
[20:18] <k1l_> wenn hier um die uhrzeit keiner antwortet guck mal obs in #kubuntu (auf englisch) besser ist und ob jemand das problem kennt.
[20:20] <derloewe> okay Danke. Ich habe versucht, KMail zu starten, es könnte am Akonadi-Server liegen.
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2015-04-24-#kubuntu-se
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[18:07] <Flygisoft> Ja då var det fredag igen
[18:07] <Flygisoft> trevliga tider
[18:16] <Philip5> jo och jag tvättar :(
[18:21] <Flygisoft> Inte så kul :P
[18:22] <Flygisoft> Själv har man rengjort 3st vattenlås här hemma, lika trevligt varje gång..
[18:58] <Philip5> jag har också ett i badrummet du kan få komma att göra rent :)
[19:12] <Flygisoft> Haha :P
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2015-04-24-#ubuntu-bugs
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[21:21] <a5001> Hi, trying to install kubuntu via a usb however comes up with error 'stdlin: not a typewriter'
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2015-04-24-#cloud-init
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[00:18] <smoser> JayF, harlowja thanks for input.
[00:18] <harlowja> np
[00:19] <JayF> smoser: Nathan from Rackspace who you've been tlaking to is now a direct co-worker of mine
[00:20] <JayF> smoser: just fyi
[00:21] <harlowja> suro-patz1 & mmorais are direct co-workers of mine (so u don't feel left out smoser )
[00:22] <harlowja> :-P
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2015-04-24-#ubuntu-nz
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[01:58] <ibeardslee> hads: at some stage I think I recall you having done an arduino controlled led cube .. do I recall correctly?
[02:42] <hads> ibeardslee: I've done a light prototype. Is that what you're thinking of? https://twitter.com/hadleyrich/status/463460020869271552
[02:43] <hads> Decided it was too difficult due to regulations surrounding downlights and insulation ratings etc.
[02:44] <ibeardslee> no, more something like this .. http://cdn.instructables.com/FQX/SRVK/I4MMRI76/FQXSRVKI4MMRI76.MEDIUM.jpg
[02:44] <ibeardslee> thinking of a different 'project' for the Arduino Academy
[02:45] <hads> Hmm. I don't think so no, Freetronics have a kit though; https://nicegear.co.nz/electronics-gear/freetronics-cube4-4x4x4-rgb-led-cube/
[02:45] <hads> Oh, I did a USB RGB Orb; https://nicegear.co.nz/electronics-gear/orblink-kit/
[02:47] <hads> "an USB"?
[02:52] <ibeardslee> oh .. oh
[03:51] <ibeardslee> nothing like a good wobble eh?
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2015-04-24-#ubuntu-gnome
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[03:24] <Noskcaj> emacsen, What do you mean?
[03:25] <Noskcaj> We'll start the blueprints for 15.10 shortly, but most of the plan is just package 3.16, then see if we have time to package 3.18.
[05:57] <mgedmin> 14.10 -> 15.04 was a very smooth upgrade, congratulations to you all!
[06:20] <mgedmin> gnome 3.16, here I come!
[06:21] <mgedmin> hmm
[06:21] <mgedmin> Unpacking adwaita-icon-theme-full (3.16.0-0ubuntu1~vivid1) over (3.14.0-2ubuntu8) ...
[06:21] <mgedmin> dpkg: error processing archive /var/cache/apt/archives/adwaita-icon-theme-full_3.16.0-0ubuntu1~vivid1_all.deb (--unpack):
[06:21] <mgedmin> trying to overwrite '/usr/share/icons/Adwaita/32x32/actions/edit-delete.png', which is also in package adwaita-icon-theme 3.14.0-2ubuntu8
[06:22] <mgedmin> yes, I know to retry; but it'd be nice if someone uploaded an adwaita-icon-theme-full with the right Conflicts: adwaita-icon-theme << 3.16.0
[06:24] <Noskcaj> mgedmin, Without the internet to properly check, my guess is there are extra ubuntu changes we need to port to 3.16
[06:24] <mgedmin> I assumed the file just got moved from one package to the other
[06:24] <mgedmin> so when you unpack them in the wrong order, you get a conflict
[06:25] <mgedmin> repeating the apt-get dist-upgrade worked fine
[06:25] <Noskcaj> I might have time to fix over the weekend, but hopefully ricotz will beat me to it
[06:25] <mgedmin> (because adwaita-icon-theme was already 3.16.0 at that point)
[06:28] <Noskcaj> Just checked, we just need to merge in 3.14.0-2ubuntu8's changes
[06:39] <ricotz> Noskcaj, will take a look
[06:45] <darkxst> yeh they kept moving files around within the packagaing!
[06:57] <mgedmin> huh, horizontal mouse wheel scroll direction seems reversed
[07:03] <mgedmin> it will take me a while to get used to the new theme in 3.16
[07:05] <ricotz> https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=737175
[07:06] <mgedmin> I see: fixed upstream, but not released yet
[07:09] <mgedmin> interesting: I seem to have two gdms running, one on tty2 (where I'm logged in) and one on tty7 (where I see what looks like a lock screen)
[07:18] <mgedmin> oh, right, the mediakeys bug
[07:19] <mgedmin> what's the status on that?
[07:19] <mgedmin> because it's not fun when most shortcut keys don't work (and by most I mean PrintScreen, Ctrl-Alt-T, volume, lock screen)
[07:34] <mgedmin> haha, gnome-control-center thinks it's still ubuntu 14.10
[07:34] <mgedmin> is the version string baked into the logo image?
[07:49] <Noskcaj> mgedmin, Is that a ubuntu version or ppa version of g-c-c?
[07:50] <mgedmin> ppa, I guess
[07:50] <mgedmin> yes: 1:3.16.1-0ubuntu1~vivid1
[07:50] <mgedmin> ubuntu version has the ubuntu logo; this one has the gnome logo
[07:51] <mgedmin> (I haven't actually checked g-c-c after upgrading to vivid and before adding the gnome3-staging ppa)
[07:51] <mgedmin> as for https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-gnome/+bug/1427877: vt switch triggers this bug for me
[07:56] <darkxst> mgedmin, I fixed the g-c-c string in vivid
[07:56] <darkxst> probably never merged it to the packages in staging
[07:57] <darkxst> mgedmin, can you comment on the upstream bug with that info (for media key bug)
[07:57] <mgedmin> ah, didn't notice the upstream bug link!
[07:58] <darkxst> mgedmin, btw, the g-c-c logo is autogenerated at build time, but uses a static string, to generate the image
[08:03] <mgedmin> yeah, gresource extract /usr/bin/gnome-control-center.real /org/gnome/control-center/info/UbuntuLogo.png > /tmp/logo.png gives me the image with "ubuntu 14.10" baked in
[08:03] <darkxst> mgedmin, btw, with gdm waylandised, I think the gdm greeter lives on vt7
[08:04] <mgedmin> oh, is the greeter always running now?
[08:04] <mgedmin> my session is on vt2, gdm greeter is on vt7
[08:05] <mgedmin> vt1, vt3, vt4, vt5, vt6 are text consoles
[08:05] <darkxst> yeh I think that is right, gdm now runs under wayland, so guess it needs to stay open
[08:06] <mgedmin> I like how smooth the vt switching is
[08:06] <darkxst> I don't know why vt2, thats probably a fedora thing
[08:06] <mgedmin> heh, the wifi icon in the greeter is a solid white square
[08:06] <darkxst> not seen that here
[08:07] <mgedmin> is there a way to take screenshots of the greeter session?
[08:08] <darkxst> camera?
[08:09] <darkxst> pretty sure screenshots are disabled there
[08:10] <darkxst> otherwise I suppose you could try run gnome-screenshot as gdm user
[08:11] <mgedmin> http://i.imgur.com/NpdWZgw.jpg
[08:12] <mgedmin> huh, I now have 6 copies of gnome-settings-daemon running
[08:13] <mgedmin> each time I do the workaround, I get a new one
[08:17] <darkxst> mgedmin, I would expect 2, one for gdm and one for your session
[08:18] <mgedmin> the number increases every time I run gnome-settings-daemon -r when media keys aren't working
[08:18] <mgedmin> the number stays constant if I run gnome-settings-daemon -r when media keys _are_ working
[08:18] <darkxst> weird
[08:18] <mgedmin> conclusion: the bug is caused by gnome-settings-daemon getting blocked on something so it stops responding to key events
[08:18] <mgedmin> I'd like to run strace on it
[08:19] <darkxst> but it only affects media key plugin, so my guess would be a stuck grab (in mutter)
[08:20] <darkxst> well atleast I havent heard of, or seen other bugs that would indicate g-s-d is blocked
[08:23] <darkxst> although I wouldnt have though a stuck grab would only affect media keys, it should probably affect all keybindings?
[08:23] <darkxst> do things like <super>+L, <super>+M still work?
[08:24] <mgedmin> strace tells me 5 of them are in stuck in futex() and two are actually working (poll., read, recvmsg etc)
[08:24] <mgedmin> things that do not when the bug is active: lock screen, print screen, volume keys, brightness keys, ctrl-alt-del
[08:24] <darkxst> well of course, you can't have 2 g-s-d running under the same user
[08:24] <mgedmin> things that work when the bug is active: <super>+m, alt-tab, basically all window management keys
[08:25] <darkxst> mgedmin, just add as much info as you can, to the upstream bug
[08:26] <mgedmin> curious: I killed all my 'gnome-settings-daemon -r' respawns-but-the-last
[08:27] <mgedmin> then I killed the original /usr/lib/gnome-settings-daemon/gnome-settings-daemon
[08:27] <mgedmin> and after I did that, my gnome-terminal theme reverted to ubuntu purple
[08:27] <mgedmin> I still had one gnome-settings-daemon -r (the one with largest pid running)
[08:27] <darkxst> the keygrabber is a beast of a thing, due to limitations in X, I don't know enough about it though, to really understand what might be going on
[08:27] <mgedmin> and then another Alt-F2 r gnome-settings-daemon -r made the theme come back
[08:27] <darkxst> mgedmin, yes themes require a g-s-d running
[08:27] <mgedmin> so now I have only one gnome-settings-daemon
[08:28] <mgedmin> I'll try to strace it while I do a VT switch
[08:29] <darkxst> mgedmin, or ask on #gnome-hackers
[08:29] <darkxst> probably not many around now until monday though
[08:30] <mgedmin> I'd love to know if anyone can reproduce this not on ubuntu
[08:30] <darkxst> fire up a fedora image in a VM
[08:31] <darkxst> and no vbox doesnt count!
[08:31] <mgedmin> the strace is boring: the usual poll(), read(), recvmsg(), and then four write()s with the assertion failure, and then more recvmsg(), poll(), read() and the futex() that makes it freeze
[08:32] <darkxst> often the case
[08:41] <mgedmin> uh, what's the best way to get and unpack the source package from the staging ppa?
[08:42] <mgedmin> I know about echo deb-src ... >> sources.list + apt-get update + apt-get source, but wonder if there's something simpler, like pull-lp-source?
[08:42] <mgedmin> or a bzr branch that you use?
[08:46] <darkxst> mgedmin, I use chdist
[08:46] <darkxst> but if you just want one, dget <dsc file>, for which you can get the link from lp
[08:47] <darkxst> although if the ppa is installed and you apt-get source, you should get the right one
[08:47] <mgedmin> if I have the deb-src lines, but I don't think add-apt-repository adds those by default
[08:48] <mgedmin> my /etc/apt/sources.list.d/ is a mess after all those upgrades
[08:48] <darkxst> yes you need to manually enable them for ppa's
[08:48] <darkxst> mgedmin, chdist is very nice, especially when I am working with a few different ppa's
[08:49] <mgedmin> from the manual page I didn't realize it could help when dealing with ppas
[08:50] <darkxst> mgedmin, imagine a normal apt config in a chroot
[08:50] * mgedmin -> lunch
[08:50] <darkxst> so each chdist you create has a sources.list and a sources.list.d dir
[08:51] <darkxst> you can even run installs in them, to check dependency issues
[08:51] <darkxst> (doesn't actually install anything)
[15:28] <zerschmetterling> hi all, how can I find the SMC credentials of a network share I have "permanently" configured as an item within Bookmarks in nautilus?
[15:29] <zerschmetterling> SMB credentials, sorry
[19:08] <bobthebuttblaste> is this where I go for support?
[19:08] <bobthebuttblaste> because I recently upgraded to 15.04 and then this happened: https://i.imgur.com/3RsCjje.png
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[08:38] <bgd> Hi everyone! I have a synaptics with 3-finger-swipe capability (as shown by xinput list-props) and I wonder how I can activate that in Unity, so that e.g. I can change the workspace with it?
[08:41] <tjaalton> no idea, try #ubuntu-unity
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[00:15] <cribbageSTARSHIP> hey everyone. does anyone know of a program or website that will create a samba .conf file?
[00:20] <Patrickdk> yes, vi
[00:25] <cribbageSTARSHIP> Patrickdk: ahaha. I prefer nano. Anyhow, it has been over a year since I touched samba. My old server nuked and I cant remember how I set up my samba before. My wife just had major surgery so Im taking care of her and cant really concentrate. I guess I was just hoping to tke a shortcut
[00:25] <Patrickdk> don't know of any
[00:35] <sarnold> cribbageSTARSHIP: back in the day, suse's yast did a good job creating those configs
[00:35] <sarnold> cribbageSTARSHIP: and back in the day, samba distributed SWAT, which did a poor job creating those configs, but it did it, hehe
[00:36] <cribbageSTARSHIP> sarnold: so is there anything?
[00:36] <sarnold> under no circumstance should SWAT be left enabled on a system that's publicly accessible but for a quick reconfigure...
[00:36] <sarnold> cribbageSTARSHIP: suse's yast feels like your best bet.
[00:37] <sarnold> .. you coul probably throw it in a VM and use it real quick like..
[00:37] <sarnold> .. and copy the configuration over, once it is generated. I'd bet it would mostly work.
[00:37] <sarnold> but it might take longer than reading the docs and doing the config by hand
[00:38] <cribbageSTARSHIP> sarnold: ya probably. Thanks anyhow
[00:43] <tsukasa_> is something screwy going on with apt right now?
[00:43] <tsukasa_> hash mismatch
[00:45] <sarnold> tsukasa_: a few thoughts, first, are you using apt-cacher-ng? I've had hash mismatches with it before ..
[00:45] <tsukasa_> sarnold: it's the linode mirror, was just wondering if it's an upstream issue or not
[00:46] <sarnold> tsukasa_: with the 15.04 release today, perhaps the mirror you were using was in the middle of an update and had out-of-sync data; if it doesn't go away in five or ten minutes, please do report in #ubuntu-mirrors
[00:46] <sarnold> .. they can sometimes re-poke specific mirrors to resync
[00:49] <tsukas___> sarnold: sorry internet dropped. yeah i'll do that. it's been this way for the last 2.5 hours
[00:50] <sarnold> tsukas___: ugh yeah that's too long; another option if it is under linode control is to ask in #linode on irc.oftc.net
[00:51] <tsukas___> i'll check that out
[03:05] <cribbageSTARSHIP> Can someone please help me with my samba config file? I've created it and can see my shares, but for some reason cannot edit anything, create anything, or delete anything. http://pastebin.com/KAvTE3DL
[03:07] <sarnold> cribbageSTARSHIP: do you have any errors in the log file?
[03:08] <sarnold> cribbageSTARSHIP: can the user running samba write to the selected log file?
[03:08] <cribbageSTARSHIP> sarnold: nothing came up in testparm
[03:08] <sarnold> cribbageSTARSHIP: the cranky old guy in me wonders about the space and ' characters in the share names..
[03:09] <cribbageSTARSHIP> sarnold: ok ill stop the service change it and try again
[03:11] <cribbageSTARSHIP> sarnold: i changed them to [will] [amy] [guest]. no dice i still cannot create edit or delete
[03:12] <sarnold> cribbageSTARSHIP: dang.
[03:12] <sarnold> cribbageSTARSHIP: sorry, if there's nothing in the logs i'm out of ideas
[03:12] <cribbageSTARSHIP> sarnold: do i have to give samba permission itself?
[03:12] <sarnold> cribbageSTARSHIP: I can't recall, it's been ages since I've touched it
[03:15] <cribbageSTARSHIP> sarnold: how much damage would I do if I "sudo chmod 0777 -R /home" and "sudo chmod 0777 -R /media"?
[03:15] <sarnold> cribbageSTARSHIP: too much :)
[03:16] <sarnold> cribbageSTARSHIP: sorry, gotta run, good luck
[03:16] <cribbageSTARSHIP> sarnold: thaks!
[08:09] <xperia> hi all. i am trying to compile bind9 dns server from sources. after downloading the sources using apt-get sources and instaaling the new bind9 package however i can not start it. can anybody tell me the needed steps to recreate bind9 on a ubuntu server? i could no where find any helpfull infos related to this on the internet.
[08:11] <faust> xperia: 1) why you need to build it from sources? 2) what does it mean that it does not start? 3) how did you build it?
[08:13] <xperia> faust: after installing it i tried "sudo service bind9 start" but got the error message "bind9: unrecognized service"
[08:13] <xperia> i need to patch bind9 to have more functionality like GeoDNS and such stuff!
[08:14] <faust> xperia: I guess that the file "/etc/init.d/bind9" does not exists
[08:14] <faust> how did you built/installed it?
[08:18] <xperia> faust: well i did use the ubuntu provided way with "apt-get sources bind9" "apt-get build-dep bind9" "./configure" "make" "sudo checkinstall" "sudo dpkg -i *.deb"
[08:18] <xperia> as you wrote however this does not install the /etc/intit.d files realted to this package. asking me now how this can be achieved
[08:20] <faust> ./configure+make is not "debian-way" really
[08:21] <lordievader> Good morning.
[08:22] <faust> xperia: you should use "fakeroot debian/rules binary"
[08:23] <faust> I mena
[08:23] <xperia> faust: ahhh this does the magic then okey will try it.
[08:23] <OpenTokix> xperia: Or you can use a modern dns-server like powerdns
[08:23] <faust> apt-get source bind9; apt-get build-dep bind9; cd bind9-.../; fakeroot debian/rules binary; cd ../; dpkg -i ...
[08:27] <xperia> OpenTokix: Thanks a lot for the Tip. Will look into it additional now too. I do agree that the People developing Bind are a little stubborn in my Opinion. Asked them to add some new Feature for a much more reliable and optimized Web Hosting Service that are needed but they refuse to improve it.
[08:40] <OpenTokix> xperia: the thing is that bind is _very_ _very_ fast, and if you have very heavy dns-load, there isnt much of an option. - But if your load is less - you can do more in each request.
[08:41] <OpenTokix> xperia: heavy dns-load is, requests in the 100k+/minute rates
[08:43] <faust> or much less requests on small/cheap resources
[08:44] <xperia> OpenTokix: hmm okey i understand that Load handling is a issues for a DNS Server but in my Opinion with such a load you will need to have a total different Server Topic Architecture. Handling such Loads with only one DNS Server in one Location i will never do or recommend.
[08:44] <xperia> and exactly here actually bind9 fails.
[08:47] <OpenTokix> xperia: If you are handling millions, 100k/s/server is not unresonable
[08:48] <OpenTokix> s/s/m/
[08:48] <faust> unless you want to buy hundreds of servers just to use them as DNS...I cannot imagine how many server you will need to run apache
[08:49] <faust> :P
[08:49] <OpenTokix> I ran a shop with 12k/req/min/dns - Ran it on two old machines - handling it just fine with bind9
[08:49] <OpenTokix> That was for 3 billion requests/day
[08:49] <OpenTokix> for the web-appliction
[08:51] <xperia> OpenTokix: wooow congrats on this stats. i just maked the experience that per recently you need to have several DNS Servers around the Globe Running. So having just one DNS Server in one Location is no Option for me even if it handle requests much more efficient.
[08:52] <OpenTokix> xperia: There is a huge difference between what you read on stackoverflow and webscale node.js-idiots - and real actual experience.
[08:53] <faust> xperia: that is just amazon trying to sell more servers
[08:53] <OpenTokix> xperia: What are you building? DNS-servers for yoru site or are you actually buillding a multicast resolver, like googles 8.8.8.8/8.8.4.4 ?
[08:53] <OpenTokix> or like opendns?
[08:54] <OpenTokix> That is two different problems all together
[08:54] <faust> inb4: I'm sysadmin of A-ROOT
[08:54] <faust> :P
[08:54] <OpenTokix> =)
[08:55] <faust> (just to be clear: it was a joke)
[08:55] <OpenTokix> What I am saying is, if you build it for yoru site - don't overcomplicate things.
[08:55] <xperia> hmmm not sure about this. look if you want customers from all around the world visiting your Server as a example from Asia while you are in Europe then having a dns server including web hosting running there is beneficiary
[08:55] <xperia> its just my experience
[08:55] <OpenTokix> xperia: yes, but your clients will very seldom hit your dns-server
[08:55] <OpenTokix> but their own isp-resolver that have your named cached
[08:56] <OpenTokix> Like my site
[08:56] <OpenTokix> ~3 billion requests/day - I had a 5 minute ttl (lowest alloweD) - and STILL I got only 24k/hits/minute
[08:56] <OpenTokix> Thats 1/75th of the actual hits on my site
[08:57] <OpenTokix> With a 5 minute ttl, - And I assume you will run a lot higher ttl than 5 minutes.
[08:57] <xperia> wooowww impresive. i do have also a 5TTL
[08:57] <OpenTokix> So I would say again: Do not overcomplicate things
[08:58] <OpenTokix> And if you are seeing the dns-resolvation of your site is the problem - Look into a DNS-provider, that has built it (They are expensive over one million/req/month) - but it is still cheaper than building your own global dns-infrastructure with multicast
[08:58] <OpenTokix> xperia: I would start by increasing that to atleast 30 minutes
[08:58] <OpenTokix> unless you use the DNS for primary/backup-site failover?
[09:00] <xperia> OpenTokix: well okey i see that one dns can do the job but at least you will want to have a second dns server at least for emergency and load balancing or not ? yes here it beginns also. with such a load i will get very nervous about primary/backup site Failover. even with 5TTL the dns will still serve the dead IP. I just dont like imperfect solutions architecture.
[09:01] <OpenTokix> xperia: yes, you need two dns-servers
[09:02] <OpenTokix> xperia: you do not load balance two servers behind a ip, you have one dns-server on one ip and another on a another ip - your clients handle the "load balancing" themselfs
[09:02] <OpenTokix> ie. if server1 dont anawer, they will talk to server1
[09:02] <OpenTokix> ie. if server1 dont anawer, they will talk to server2
[09:05] <xperia> OpenTokix: ahh yeah i also thinked about this solution but the problem here is that at the end you will have Visitors from Asia landing on Webservers located in Europe and Visitors in Europe landing on Webservers in Asia. My Actual Situation at the moment. Very Bad.
[09:05] <xperia> You will want to send the Visitors from Europe to WebServers in Europe and Asian Visitors to Asian Weservers all this Functionallity is missing in Bind9. No GeoDNS no FailOver ... Realy Bad.
[09:06] <OpenTokix> xperia: yes, that is super easy to do in powerdns
[09:06] <OpenTokix> xperia: and a hassle in bind9 =)
[09:06] <OpenTokix> I did that in powerdns
[09:06] <OpenTokix> How much traffic do you have?
[09:09] <xperia> OpenTokix: good that we agree :-) i will just patch now bind9 with geodns functionallity code from here http://www.caraytech.com/geodns/ with the howto steps from faust. it compiled fine actually.
[09:09] <OpenTokix> good luck
[09:09] <faust> that is not a really "clean" build
[09:09] <faust> but it will work
[09:09] <faust> you should probably update versions and dep
[09:10] <faust> but if you are not going to redistribute it you may not worry
[09:10] <xperia> OpenTokix: i dont have such a big traffic like you but i have around 100'000 Hits per Day from all around the World.
[10:07] <xperia> OpenTokix: faust: ohh woow i just studied the BIND9 Sources and was very surprised to see that BIND9 has allready GEO IP Code in it. Did you know that no Patching actually is needed anymore to have GEO IP in BIND9, i mysefl was not aware of it.
[10:07] <xperia> see this link here => https://kb.isc.org/article/AA-01149/0/Using-the-GeoIP-Features-in-BIND-9.10.html
[10:11] <xperia> i do think however that the provided ubuntu packages are build without geoip functionallity as this need to be enabled explicit. joining #bind9
[10:12] <xperia> mean #bind
[10:46] <xperia> the installed BIND9 Package on the Ubuntu Server from the default Package Repo has by default enabled GEO IP. I am saved he he he. Well Done People. No need for Recompile for me just reconfiguting of Bind is needed. mmmmhh feels great !
[10:54] <OpenTokix> xperia: amazing - I dont run any dns:es anymore - but thanks for info
[11:54] <Tsterxer> Hi
[11:54] <Tsterxer> I struggle install ubuntu server..
[11:55] <Tsterxer> Is it correct to first setup and then intall?
[11:55] <Tsterxer> install*
[14:40] <Atlas1337> I need help forwarding a port
[14:41] <OpenTokix> Fwd: Port of Amsterdam.pdf
[14:42] <Atlas1337> forwarding a port with iptables
[15:04] <pmatulis> OpenTokix: have you done any research yet?
[15:05] <pmatulis> woops, meant for Atlas1337
[15:06] <Atlas1337> I uninstalled ubuntu
[15:35] <Guest36029> can anyone ... help me how to set permission for apache
[15:41] <pmatulis> Guest36029: have you done any research yet?
[17:45] <darius93> do anyone know why i get an error when trying to use a kickstart file? It says it cant be downloaded but the url works, and the error is blank
[18:49] <cubb> Why is cd not working? http://d.pr/i/17xJ1
[18:51] <sarnold> it did
[18:51] <sarnold> it didn't print any error messages
[18:51] <sarnold> run 'pwd' to see your current working directory
[18:53] <cubb> oh yeah, it did change directory
[18:53] <cubb> fuck me, I'm an idiot
[18:53] <lordievader> A shell which displays the pwd is nice ;)
[18:59] <rberg> yeah I kind of sounds like your .bashrc is missing PS1
[19:00] <sarnold> .. or someone got tired of the directory names and set PS1 to '\$ ' to get the old simple prompt back :) heh
[20:02] <cubb> http://d.pr/i/dT3q but http://d.pr/i/1ipgm
[20:02] <cubb> when I run start_dst.sh
[20:03] <cubb> which contains: screen -S "DST Server" dontstarve_dedicated_server_nullrenderer
[21:56] <halvors> Hi. IPv6 is somehow not working on Ubuntu 14.04.2 LTS. I'm trying to lease a IPv6 address with "dhclient -6 -v" and getting this error: "Can't set SO_REUSEPORT option on dhcp socket: Protocol not available"
[21:57] <sarnold> halvors: interesting.. https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/isc-dhcp/+bug/1184099
[21:58] <halvors> sarnold: I've seen that. But nothing about how to fix this issue...
[21:58] <halvors> sarnold: Sounds to me like IPv6 is non existing on my system somehow :(
[22:00] <sarnold> much more informative https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1005814
[22:07] <halvors> Nobody knows how to correct this issue?
[22:08] <sarnold> halvors: you may have some success ifyou can restrict it to binding to a specific interface
[22:13] <halvors> sarnold: Tried "dhclient -6 eth0" doesn't help :(
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[07:20] <imgbot> [07:23] <Mirv> that was late
[07:29] <ogra_> yeah, recently they are all late, very weird
[07:30] <ogra_> oh, but this one was manual :)
[07:30] <ogra_> the cronjob is disabled it seems
[08:03] <sil2100> Yeah ;)
[08:04] <sil2100> I wanted to build this one yesterday night, but we lost internet access and I couldn't log into nusakan
[08:04] <sil2100> So I gave up and just did it in the morning
[08:19] <Mirv> hmm
[08:19] <mardy> Mirv: to debug the problem with silo 18, you could do "echo LoggingLevel=2 > ~/.config/signond.conf", then send me the syslog
[08:20] <Mirv> mardy: ok. I'm testing something else right now to workaround the problem, but writing that down.
[08:28] <Mirv> sil2100: tsdgeos: mardy: etc: hmm. I may have a workaround for #1421009, based on the unity8 boot loop test case ...
[08:29] <tsdgeos> Mirv: you mean seed the cache?
[08:29] <Mirv> tsdgeos: no.
[08:29] <Mirv> and you're not going to be impressed :D but... 30 reboots now solid.
[08:29] <Mirv> http://paste.ubuntu.com/10877014/
[08:30] <tsdgeos> he he
[08:40] <imgbot> [08:40] <imgbot> [09:04] <sil2100> Evil
[09:07] <sil2100> ...but we like evil
[09:08] <sil2100> Mirv: give me a sign what to test and how, I need to prepare my device
[09:09] <Mirv> sil2100: start with the Test Case I added in bug #1421009 description so that you can verify you can get the problem on an unmodified vivid. maybe after around 10-20 minutes (or earlier), you should notice it is not rebooting anymore, the script execution has stopped and if you check the device the unity8 lock screen has a black background and it's hanged (at least on my mako). note that "Unlock attempt 1 failed" is normal and happens on each boot
[09:09] <Mirv> it's useful to know the bug we're fixing in the first place. meanwhile, I'm trying with lower values and will give the next piece of instructions when you're able to reproduce the bug
[09:10] <Mirv> ogra_: from what I can deduce, .override file is identical to a .conf file and simply is executed instead of the .conf file when .override exists?
[09:20] <mardy> Mirv: right, the networkmanager qt plugin uses dbus to talk to NetworkManager; the bug might be there
[09:20] <ogra_> Mirv, well, if you only put lines ther that exist in the .conf it will replace them ... i.e. you can just have an override with a "start on" stanza that replaces the default
[09:21] <sil2100> Mirv: the loop is to be executed on the desktop, right?
[09:21] <sil2100> Ah, right, I see adb commands
[09:21] <sil2100> So yes
[09:24] * sil2100 executes it on vanilla vivid
[09:25] <ogra_> yummy, vanilla
[09:25] <ogra_> now you made me think about icecream !
[09:26] <davidbarth> o/ hello trainguards, could i get a reconfiguration of silo 22 please? (I swapped a branch for another)
[09:27] <Mirv> ogra_: oh, like section based? so I could have network-manager.override with only content http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/10877298/ ?
[09:27] <ogra_> Mirv, that should work, yeah
[09:27] <Mirv> mardy: yeah, this'd be the workaround for the original bug of unity8 hanging without affecting Qt DBus even though that means Qt DBus is still not multi thread safe (but the only real problem we know to have is so far the boot problem)
[09:28] <ogra_> (try it first indeed)
[09:28] <Mirv> sil2100: yes
[09:30] <davidbarth> ah no in fact i can reconfig myself; all good
[09:34] <sil2100> Mirv: so far vanilla vivid is looping pretty nicely, no hang for now
[09:34] <sil2100> chrisccoulson: ping
[09:35] <sil2100> chrisccoulson, davidbarth: hey guys, how's the work on 1.7.4 going?
[09:35] <sil2100> chrisccoulson, davidbarth: it seems QA can't sign-off oxide 1.7.3 due to the tab experience being completely broken
[09:35] <sil2100> chrisccoulson, davidbarth: so we would really need a fixed version today...
[09:37] <Mirv> sil2100: I think it's really slow going in order to know if we have a fix for real. tsdgeos said 30 boots should be safe, but I'm not sure if they tested on arale (but then again, don't we have "1/10" reports on arale currently?)
[09:38] <sil2100> Mirv: not sure how many reboots it was right now, probably around 20, and so far it's still looping
[09:38] <sil2100> I'll let it go for 20 more minutes
[09:39] <Mirv> sil2100: ok, that's not really good news, since of course we'd need to be reliably to reproduce the problem in order to say there's a workaround
[09:39] <chrisccoulson> sil2100, a fix for what?
[09:41] <sil2100> chrisccoulson: davidbarth mentioned there's a hypothetical fix in the works for stability with many webviews
[09:42] <sil2100> chrisccoulson: since QA mentioned that webbrowser has really really broken tab functionality with 1.7.3, so I hoped this fix might help
[09:42] <chrisccoulson> sil2100, I'm not aware of that. I had an occasional browser crash which disappeared after updating my image, and trunk is a bit broken
[09:43] <sil2100> davmor2: ^ can you report the oxide issues you saw to chrisccoulson with details?
[09:43] <sil2100> Maybe those issues you saw are new and neither davidbarth or chrisccoulson saw those
[09:43] <davmor2> sil2100: yeap next bug on my list
[09:43] <chrisccoulson> it would be nice if people actually reported issues to me. I wasn't aware of it and there obviously is no fix if I'm not aware of it
[09:44] <davmor2> sil2100: oSoMoN commented on them
[09:44] <sil2100> chrisccoulson: I suppose it was something that was reported to oSoMoN or davidbarth
[09:44] <sil2100> davmor2: he didn't forward it to chrisccoulson then?
[09:44] <sil2100> Mirv: btw. did we have any confirmed cases of the hang happening on arale at all?
[09:46] <Mirv> sil2100: I guess we'll need to collect info. does ogra or jibel know? I thought "someone" has tested that arale randomly fails to boot / hang at unity8 lock screen.
[09:47] <Mirv> sil2100: comment #52 on the bug states that "I see this on normal boots of mako and arale; roughly 30% of the time...
[09:48] <Mirv> 30% is a lot, though, so I wonder if the test case is the best possible?
[09:48] <ogra_> i never see that
[09:49] <Mirv> the really, really original bug report states what we know that sometimes a test fails because of the boot issue, on krillin specifically
[09:50] <Mirv> tsdgeos: Saviq: so when you were executing the unity8 boot loop test case, was that mako/krillin/arale?
[09:53] <davmor2> chrisccoulson: sil2100 https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/oxide-qt/+bug/1448010
[09:54] <tsdgeos> Mirv: mako
[09:54] <chrisccoulson> davmor2, but this is a webbrowser-app feature. Oxide doesn't have anything to do with the tab spread
[09:54] <tsdgeos> sorry my interwebs are awful today
[09:55] <davmor2> chrisccoulson: hmmm I wonder why it is so smooth in the older version then?
[09:56] <Mirv> ok I'll continue with my mako then anyhow, regardless of how it goes with arale
[09:57] <Mirv> sil2100: the removal of QML cache is supposed to simulate first boot from factory
[09:57] <sil2100> Mirv: so far no hangs
[09:57] <davmor2> chrisccoulson: let me have a play on krillin this morning I'l capture a video
[09:57] <Mirv> sil2100: I'm not really sure if that's good news or bad news ;)
[09:57] <sil2100> Yeah ;p
[09:57] * sil2100 wants it to hang finally
[10:00] <chrisccoulson> oSoMoN ^
[10:01] <sil2100> Mirv: ah ha!
[10:01] <sil2100> Mirv: I think it happened!
[10:01] <Mirv> sil2100: five tries, script errors out, unity8 hanged?
[10:02] <sil2100> Mirv: ': Unlock attempt 1 failed, script output: 'Error: Timeout was reached - now the screen is on the main screen but without the libusermetrics wheel, just the clock and a black screen
[10:03] <sil2100> Consecutive unlock attempts fail
[10:03] <sil2100> Device unresponsive
[10:03] <sil2100> Ok, win
[10:03] <Mirv> sil2100: can you copy-paste the so far log to a file, then grep passed file | wc -l ?
[10:03] <Mirv> so we get the amount of reboots that were done
[10:03] <oSoMoN> chrisccoulson, davmor2: thanks, I triaged the bug accordingly, I don’t have my arale handy right now, but I’ll test and confirm this afternoon
[10:03] <chrisccoulson> oSoMoN, thanks
[10:04] <sil2100> Mirv: 57
[10:04] <davmor2> oSoMoN: checking on krillin too
[10:04] <Mirv> sil2100: ouch, that's awfully lot
[10:05] <sil2100> Well, might not mean anything, races involve probability and probability likes to be a jackass
[10:05] <Mirv> sil2100: then it's possible we don't really know if my workaround helps or not, even though on mako it'd generally happen quicker
[10:05] <sil2100> Mirv: let me spin it here then
[10:06] <abeato> trainguards, can I have a silo for lone 53?
[10:06] <abeato> s/lone/line
[10:07] <Mirv> abeato: ok
[10:07] <sil2100> Mirv: let me try with your workaround now
[10:07] <abeato> thx
[10:08] <Mirv> sil2100: yeah, just apply it manually for now, I haven't progressed on testing the .override etc
[10:09] <Mirv> sil2100: I'm not sure if it matters but it seemd the indentation is with tabs, so I did it similarly for those sleep lines
[10:10] <sil2100> Ok, running it now
[10:11] <Mirv> I now had only "sleep 1" and only after, not before, and got failures after 22 reboots. so I'm now going to be more systematic and getting a couple of errors without changing anything, and then try really hard with eg. sleep 2/2 or so. my original sleep 4/4 ran for about 50 boots, which is less than your arale (but arale might hit it less often, as reportedly 30 should be enough on mako)
[10:21] <sil2100> Mirv: I have bad news
[10:21] <sil2100> :<
[10:23] <sil2100> Mirv: the workaround seems to not work, after 17 loops it hanged
[10:24] <Saviq> Mirv, mako
[10:27] <davidbarth> sil2100: on that issue, there is no fix, cause the problem itself is not fully understood; we couldn't reproduce issues yesterday evening, apart from the oom_killer
[10:28] <davidbarth> while i was observing non-oom_killer related problems earlier in the afternoon with oSoMoN
[10:28] <sil2100> Things look better and better with our RC ;)
[10:38] <Mirv> sil2100: :( so it seems a) arale might be different beast, b) it's really fluctuating, and 30 reboots after all is not enough to test a fix, or even 50
[10:47] <sil2100> Mirv: http://paste.ubuntu.com/10877628/ this is my n-m.conf
[10:54] <Mirv> sil2100: looks similar to what I tested
[10:54] <Mirv> mmh, a bit frustrating, but I wonder if we understand enough of the problem, and if all the black background errors are caused by this problem or something else
[10:55] <Mirv> on my krillin rtm I had a reboot when I had similar unity8 hang / black background
[10:55] <Mirv> Saviq: tsdgeos: is there anything else that would be useful to check when the failure happens, to check whether we're hitting this DBus problem or something else?
[10:56] <tsdgeos> Mirv: gdb and see the backtrace
[10:57] <Mirv> tsdgeos: from the running process, or would it be ok to check the .crash file after it's generated?
[10:57] <Saviq> Mirv, if it rebooted then it's not the deadlock
[10:57] <tsdgeos> Mirv: it doesn't generate a .crash file
[10:57] <Saviq> Mirv, the deadlock does not cause a crash, so that must've been something different
[10:58] <Mirv> Saviq: what, my krillin example? I meant, after a reboot I once had a black background on krillin and a hang, I didn't check it further than eventually forced a reboot by pressing power button
[10:58] <Mirv> sil2100: do you still have it running or did you reboot? you could try gdb -p [pidofunity8] and bt
[11:00] <Saviq> Mirv, if you have a deadlock on boot, the only reason we know is dbus, but what tsdgeos said - attach when it's hung and see the trace
[11:00] <Mirv> tsdgeos: Saviq: anyway, for testing the eventual upstream fix, it seems 30 reboots is not enough, and not even 50. we don't know the upper limit of possibly passing reboots without changes.
[11:00] <Mirv> Saviq: ok, thanks
[11:07] <sil2100> Mirv: still have it running
[11:07] <Mirv> sil2100: oh right your next run. I also started my next run already, the previous one on mako (without changes) failed after 30 reboots.
[11:08] <Mirv> it seems our previous test case was not good enough, so we need to have a real test case before any fix can be tested
[11:08] <sil2100> The bt:
[11:08] <sil2100> (gdb) bt
[11:08] <sil2100> #0 0xb621a620 in syscall () from /lib/arm-linux-gnueabihf/libc.so.6
[11:08] <sil2100> #1 0xb63cfe12 in QBasicMutex::lockInternal() () from /usr/lib/arm-linux-gnueabihf/libQt5Core.so.5
[11:08] <sil2100> Backtrace stopped: previous frame identical to this frame (corrupt stack?)
[11:09] <Mirv> ah right still running as in still that failure there, nice
[11:09] <sil2100> Yeah ;)
[11:09] <Mirv> tsdgeos: is that ^ enough to validate that it's this dbus problem? clearly a locking problem but can we get the DBus visible some way?
[11:22] <davmor2> Mirv: does that mean we are back to landing QT7 to fix the world?
[11:24] <Mirv> davmor2: we're back to finding out what was the problem in the first place
[11:24] <davmor2> Mirv: :(
[11:25] <Mirv> when we have a test case, in addition to Qt 7 we might take my idea of adding a delay but apply it somewhere like for example inside unity8 before it calls usermetrics or NM or something
[11:25] * sil2100 off to prepare lunch
[11:25] <sil2100> Mirv: indeed, that might make sense
[11:27] <Mirv> since the only known problem right at the moment is a boot time random failure
[11:29] <Mirv> tsdgeos: unping, I got a better retrace now on my mako which involves QDBus and I can improve the test case now
[11:31] <tsdgeos> sorry was busy elsewhere
[11:32] <Mirv> sil2100: if you're still there with the arale hang when you come back from lunch, try sudo apt install qtbase5-dbg libc6-dbg and backtrace again, and compare if you get the same QDBusDispatchLocker related line that I'll be adding to the bug test case
[11:49] <sil2100> Mirv: installing packages while preparing roast
[11:54] <sil2100> Mirv: yeah, I see it's locking on QDBusDispatchLocker indeed
[11:54] <sil2100> Let me pastebin the whole backtrace (bt, not bt full)
[11:56] <sil2100> Mirv: http://paste.ubuntu.com/10878086/ <- but I suppose you have the same
[12:04] <Mirv> sil2100: yeah, I updated the description, looks the same. now we at least have what to look for, but we'd need the upper limit of reboots that can happen without the problems seen. I'm currently guessing a 100, although it might be lower on mako (30 my maximum so far)
[12:28] <Mirv> tsdgeos: if we follow up on the idea that Qt patching at this point still seems risky, and the only known problem is the boot time simultaneous DBus usage, can you think of as ugly hacks as mine inside Unity 8 that would eg separate Network Manager <-> usermetrics calls by delaying eg usermetrics? I can take care of all testing once I've the test case 100% proof.
[12:28] <Mirv> regression on boot time is less worse than the possibility of a deadlock
[12:39] <Kaleo> trainguards: need a silo for row 54 :) camera-app landing
[12:40] <Mirv> Kaleo: ok
[12:40] <Kaleo> Mirv, thanks!
[12:52] <Mirv> Kaleo: I don't where bot went but you got silo 011
[12:52] <Kaleo> Mirv, thank you
[12:53] <sil2100> tsdgeos, Mirv: keep me updated guys ;)
[12:55] <Mirv> sil2100: I'm currently just getting data on the upper limit of possibly successful reboots on mako without any changes. but it seems mako is slower at it than your arale :) I've only 3 runs now collected, and the current one is at 36 at the moment without problems.
[12:55] <Mirv> sil2100: btw, did you really mean to publish ubuntu-keyboard, ubuntu-system-settings to vivid in the morning...
[12:55] * Mirv hopes w will open soon :)
[12:58] <sil2100> Aaaaa
[12:58] <sil2100> Ok, I'll never get used to checking the dashboard for the target
[12:58] * sil2100 copies it over to the overlay PPA
[12:58] * sil2100 sighs
[13:04] <sil2100> Fixed, that what happens when one publishes in haste
[13:08] <oSoMoN> ubuntu-qa: what’s the status of testing of silo 21 ? I understand that, given that it was already under review when the freeze happened, it still has a chance to land, is that correct?
[13:09] <rvr> Hmm
[13:10] <davmor2> oSoMoN: I think om26er is looking at it not sure he is on yet though
[13:10] <sil2100> oSoMoN: I think Omer is testing it
[13:10] <rvr> oSoMoN: om26er is not connected
[13:10] <sil2100> Don't see him around right now, but he's the one that has it on his plate
[13:59] <sil2100> davmor2, rvr: hey, any news on the ofono silo?
[13:59] <sil2100> Did they rebuild it and re-handed-over for testing?
[13:59] <rvr> davmor2: ?
[14:12] <oSoMoN> om26er, hey, what’s the status of testing on silo 21 ?
[14:12] <om26er> oSoMoN, in progress, I just signed in, Will be tested in an hour.
[14:13] <oSoMoN> om26er, thanks. you had questions yesterday, sorry I wasn’t around to answer them, did you manage to get everything answered?
[14:13] <om26er> oSoMoN, yes, Bill answered them later in the day but unfortunately I was near EOD then.
[14:13] <oSoMoN> ok
[14:15] <pmcgowan> oSoMoN, so per your last report the tabs behavior is not new?
[14:16] <oSoMoN> pmcgowan, correct, it exists on the current vivid-proposed image
[14:18] <pmcgowan> oSoMoN, so while thats not good, it would say to me we can land 1.7
[14:19] <oSoMoN> pmcgowan, yes, in any case it’s very unlikely that this issue is linked to oxide at all (the tabs list view uses image captures, not live webviews)
[14:19] <sil2100> Oh, it does?
[14:19] <sil2100> Then why didn't QA accept it?
[14:19] <sil2100> davmor2: ^ did you compare with webbrowser in the old oxide?
[14:20] <pmcgowan> oSoMoN, yeah I wondered about that
[14:21] <pmcgowan> more arale graphics dependent
[14:21] <sil2100> Then there's some serious misinformation going on here
[14:21] <oSoMoN> yeah, it really feels like something lower down in the graphics stack
[14:22] <pmcgowan> sil2100, I think just an assumption as not previously reported for some reason
[14:22] <pmcgowan> sil2100, so lets see if we can land that silo now
[14:23] <sil2100> davmor2, rvr, om26er: can we get anyone of you guys signing-off the oxide silo once again?
[14:24] <davmor2> sil2100: so silo16 is good to go as is if that is the consensus. it's only blocked due to the tab behaviour
[14:26] <davmor2> pmcgowan: ^
[14:27] <sil2100> Ok, setting it to signed-off and publishing
[14:27] <pmcgowan> davmor2, vg
[14:32] <sil2100> chrisccoulson: you have PPU rights for oxide, right?
[14:37] <cwayne> sil2100, did that unity-api fix for favorited scopes make it in?
[14:41] <sil2100> mandel: hey!
[14:42] <sil2100> mandel: http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~mandel/location-service/better-position-selection/revision/202 has not been built in silo 24
[14:42] <mandel> sil2100, triggering, sorry some docs updates and forgot
[14:42] <sil2100> mandel: it's a change in code, but this basically shouldn't require a re-test I suppose...
[14:42] <mandel> sil2100, nope, is just adding a const to a method and some typos
[14:42] <sil2100> mandel: anyway, let's rebuild and re-push
[14:44] <sil2100> Mirv, tsdgeos: any news on the hang by any chance? ;)
[14:45] <mandel> sil2100, is building already, sorry for that
[14:45] <sil2100> No worries, there was so many things today that I missed pinging you actually
[14:46] <tsdgeos> sil2100: i haven't been doing any of that today, left it in Mirv's hands
[14:46] * sil2100 needs to AFK for a bit, bbl
[14:55] <Mirv> tsdgeos: did you note my question about workarounds 2.5h ago or did your network eat it?
[14:55] <tsdgeos> Mirv: that was me being at lunch and then not realizing, sorry :/
[14:56] <tsdgeos> Mirv: so i take delaying nm wasn't good?
[15:01] <Mirv> tsdgeos: yes, at least not enough on arale. plus, we might have over 50 reboots without problems currently so testing a fix or workaround would require a hundred or so.
[15:03] <Mirv> but given how the boot problem came to be, some workaround should be realistic
[15:04] <tsdgeos> i disagree
[15:05] <tsdgeos> Mirv: anyway delaying metrics is kind of hard
[15:05] <tsdgeos> since it's the first thing that you see on the phone
[15:05] <tsdgeos> delaying that is not a good idea i'd say
[15:18] <ogra_> sil2100, is there also a ringtone related rc blocker open currently ?
[15:18] <ogra_> (just got asked in meeting)
[15:18] <Mirv> tsdgeos: a 1s delay in the right spot for example when NM is still initializing wouldn't too bad, but I'm open to any suggestions to avoid parallel qdbus usage during boot up
[15:19] <Mirv> tsdgeos: I'm not sure if nm is only called when indicators are shown, but optimally the deparallization would happen when ubuntu logo is still spinning.
[15:20] <tsdgeos> Mirv: no nm has nothing to do with the indicators in here, it's qt's internal nm backend, not the "indicator nm" backend
[15:21] <Mirv> tsdgeos: you know it the best, I was just guessing why they overlap
[15:21] <tsdgeos> Mirv: honestly i don't know much more than you
[15:22] <mandel> sil2100, build done successfully, no need to test the addition of const to a var
[15:28] <oSoMoN> trainguards: QA signed off silo 21, can it be published, please?
[15:28] <Mirv> tsdgeos: yeah, but you might throw some MP:s showing example how to affect unity8 calling things that call qdbus. the key would be to first have a bad workaround that works, and when we know we can have a workaround, we can think how the workaround could be non user visible. of course there may be other components besides u8 to tinker, like whatever calls qt nm backend (I thought it might be indicator)
[15:29] <tsdgeos> Mirv: i don't think i'll be able to work on that, i'm on london next week on a sprint
[15:30] <Mirv> tsdgeos: ok. of course all about prioritization at the end. I can try continue trying things I can think of.
[15:46] <oSoMoN> trainguard: ping? (re silo 21)
[15:46] <oSoMoN> I meant, trainguards
[16:23] <rvr> The team named '~ci-train-ppa-service' has no PPA named 'ubuntu/landing-026'
[16:23] <rvr> Hmm
[16:23] <robru> oSoMoN: done
[16:23] <rvr> robru: Have you changed anything or it is me?
[16:23] <robru> rvr: the ppa would be named 'landing-026'
[16:23] <oSoMoN> robru, thanks man!
[16:23] <robru> oSoMoN: you're welcome
[16:24] <robru> rvr: what tool are you using that gave that error?
[16:25] <rvr> robru: I updated yesterday to Vivid, so maybe my phablet-tools-citrain is not the correct one
[16:26] <robru> rvr: the version in vivid should be fine, I haven't touched that code in quite a while...
[16:26] <robru> rvr: what's the command you ran?
[16:26] <rvr> citrain device-upgrade 26 <passwd>
[16:30] <robru> rvr: hm it worked for me...
[16:31] <robru> rvr: where did the error come from? phablet-config? can you show me a paste of the command output?
[16:34] <rvr> robru: http://paste.ubuntu.com/10879757/
[16:36] <robru> rvr: what image is flashed on your phone? that sounds like you have an ancient version of add-apt-repository from before rtm split
[16:37] <rvr> robru: Thing is, this worked before
[16:38] <rvr> I was just reflashing to check an issue without and then with the silo
[16:39] <robru> rvr: right. so the thing is, nothing changed in citrain script in many many months ;-) citrain calls phablet-config, phablet-config calls add-apt-repository. So for some reason you got a version of add-apt-repository that doesn't understand ppa:team/distro/ppa-name syntax
[16:39] <rvr> Weird
[16:40] <rvr> Well, manually it works o_O
[16:43] <robru> rvr: https://pastebin.canonical.com/130321/ here's my paste, worked fine. that's on krillin, not sure what image number though
[16:47] <rvr> robru: launchpad connection is very slow, maybe is that
[16:47] <robru> mandel: https://code.launchpad.net/~thomas-voss/location-service/fix-1447161/+merge/257097 need this approved.
[17:00] <rvr> Approving silo 26
[17:08] <sil2100> Back
[17:10] <ogra_> rvr, were you looking into silo 02 before ... seems there is a wrong test plan and i cant log in to the spreadsheet to change it
[17:10] <sil2100> ogra_: what test plan should it have?
[17:10] <sil2100> I can change it
[17:12] <ogra_> "install the VibrateMe app, set vibration to 20sec ... suspend the phone via power button ... without fix it wont stop, with fix it will stop vibrating after the selected time"
[17:12] <ogra_> (the current test plan completely works around the usensord API we want to test by using sysfs)
[17:14] <robru> rvr: did you mark it in the spreadsheet?
[17:14] <sil2100> ogra_: modified o/
[17:14] * ogra_ hugs sil2100
[17:15] <ogra_> sil2100, did you see my ping in the backlog ?
[17:15] <sil2100> robru, rvr: I published silo 26, it's a critical
[17:15] <ogra_> ChickenCutlass, asked me about a ringtone bug he thought was an RC blocker
[17:15] <sil2100> ogra_: let me check that
[17:15] <ChickenCutlass> ogra_ yes pmcgowan has the bug number
[17:15] <ogra_> since i dont remember that being mentioned in the LT meeting i thought i'd betetr ask you :)
[17:17] <rvr> ogra_: silo 2 is alesage
[17:17] <sil2100> ogra_: hm, yeah, I don't see it in the priorities spreadsheet, but I remember seeing the bug somewhere before
[17:17] <rvr> robru: Yeah, I marked it
[17:17] <pmcgowan> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/telephony-service/+bug/1447606
[17:17] <ogra_> rvr, thanks ...
[17:18] <ogra_> sil2100, i guess we want that on the blocker list :)
[17:18] <alesage> ogra_, validating that now
[17:18] <ogra_> alesage, thanks
[17:19] <sil2100> Hah, I knew I saw this bug somewhere, but the title was misleading ;)
[17:20] <robru> oh, queuebot has been offline since noon yesterday
[17:20] <sil2100> Yeah, it's on the blocker list
[17:20] <ogra_> (likely needs krillin as this is the only device actually going to deep sleep)
[17:20] <ogra_> sil2100, awesome, thanks
[17:20] <ogra_> ChickenCutlass, all fine then
[17:20] <alesage> ogra_, that helps thanks
[17:20] <ChickenCutlass> great
[17:54] <sil2100> pmcgowan: the vibration fix just landed \o/
[17:55] <pmcgowan> sil2100, nice, just hit that this morning
[17:55] <sil2100> queuebot: welcome back!
[17:56] <sil2100> pmcgowan: btw. what magic could you do to make tsdgeos and maybe some people from Unity8 help Mirv with the unity8 hang-on-boot issue?
[17:58] <sil2100> Since that's the biggest thing blocking us from testing, and I think it would require as many people possible working on this starting next week
[18:01] <pmcgowan> sil2100, agreed will see where I can find more eyes on it
[18:09] <cjwatson> heads-up, you may have problems publishing anything that started building in silos between about 13:26 and 17:59 UTC today due to us having to revert the switch to new-style ddebs until we fix a problem with it
[18:09] <cjwatson> #launchpad-ops internal if you need details
[18:09] <cjwatson> (I'm afraid I have to go and can't help further, but some information is better than none)
[18:12] <davmor2> sil2100: pmcgowan, abeato: after a rocky start silo 007 is good.
[18:12] <pmcgowan> yay
[18:16] <pmcgowan> abeato, do we need to tweak rtm silo 0 also?
[18:17] <ChrisTownsend> cihelp: Hi! We've been seeing a weird failure on our 386 Unity CI runs. For example: https://jenkins.qa.ubuntu.com/job/unity-vivid-i386-ci/95/console
[18:17] <ChrisTownsend> Notice that gdk is trying to open a Mir backend which is completely wrong.
[18:18] <wgrant> camera-app in https://launchpad.net/~ci-train-ppa-service/+archive/ubuntu/landing-011/+packages will need to be rebuilt if it's heading for a primary archive.
[18:18] <wgrant> But it looks like it's headed for the overlay PPA, in which case it's fine.
[18:19] <wgrant> sil2100: ^^
[18:24] <mandel> robru, is approved, right?
[18:25] <sil2100> wgrant: yes, it's for the overlay PPA
[18:26] <robru> mandel: well, it wasn't at the time I pinged, but then sil2100 rammed it through
[18:26] <mandel> robru, ah, it should have, weird
[18:27] <sil2100> pmcgowan: thanks :)
[18:28] <sil2100> mandel: I overrode one unapproved branch as it was a blocker fix with high priority
[18:28] <davmor2> pmcgowan: if it has the same fix in for puk code yes
[18:28] <mandel> sil2100, perfectly ok, I though everything was approved, jhodapp went through both branches
[18:28] <pmcgowan> davmor2, yeah I am not sure
[18:29] <jhodapp> sil2100, mandel I had approved both branches
[18:29] <sil2100> jhodapp: there was a branch from tvoss that wasn't approved IIRC
[18:29] <sil2100> Anyway, all good now
[18:29] <jhodapp> sil2100, ok great
[18:30] <davmor2> pmcgowan: on a plus side I have a crapped out sim to test it with now
[18:30] <pmcgowan> its the little things
[18:31] <pmcgowan> davmor2, very funny btw, robot overlords
[18:31] <davmor2> pmcgowan: thought it would be appreciated :)
[18:35] <cjwatson> Ah, perhaps my publishing warning doesn't apply to vivid, because you're sending everything to the overlay PPA.
[18:35] <cjwatson> It will probably still apply to ubuntu-rtm/14.09.
[18:35] <cjwatson> And I see wgrant worked that out before me :)
[18:36] <cjwatson> wgrant: How did that work? Presumably the overlay PPA has ddebs switched off too ...
[18:36] <cjwatson> Oh, the check is just for primaries isn't it
[18:38] <wgrant> cjwatson: Yes, it's just that I didn't want weird stuff in the primary archive that gets sent out to mirrors and blah.
[18:38] <wgrant> The check is really obsolete now that publish_debug_symbols is a flag.
[18:38] <wgrant> I may just remove the check on Monday.
[19:07] <ChrisTownsend> cihelp: Anybody available to help today?
[19:19] <fginther> ChrisTownsend, sorry about that. I'll have a look
[19:20] <ChrisTownsend> fginther: Ok, no worries, just didn't know if I should ping again on Monday:)
[19:20] <ChrisTownsend> fginther: And thanks
[19:29] <fginther> ChrisTownsend, I don't see anything obviously wrong just yet. I've kicked off a couple of test builds to see if something has gone wrong with that specific builder. Will get back to you when that's finished
[19:29] <ChrisTownsend> fginther: Ok, it's very strange. I've seen this on 2 separate MP's only on 386.
[19:30] <fginther> ChrisTownsend, these builders are also used for mir, which made me think there was a possible process leak that caused the problem, but I don't see any evidence of that yet, it was just my first guess
[19:31] <ChrisTownsend> fginther: Ok, thanks
[19:44] <jhodapp> robru, can I please get a silo for line 55?
[19:44] <robru> jhodapp: one sec
[19:45] <jhodapp> k
[19:47] <robru> jhodapp: silo 2
[19:49] <jhodapp> thanks robru
[19:49] <robru> jhodapp: you're welcome
[21:44] <alecu> ping trainguards: hi! I'm trying to reconfigure ubuntu/landing-014, and I get this: """ERROR unity-scope-click was not in the initial list of components for that silo. Please ask the trainguards to reconfigure this silo for you."""
[21:56] <sil2100> alecu: hey! Yeah, we'll reconfigure it for you in a moment
[21:58] <alecu> thanks! but isn't it like 4AM in your timezone? you should have eowd already!
[21:59] <alecu> :-)
[22:04] <sil2100> Noo, it's midnight here, still early
[22:04] <sil2100> Although I need to go to sleep soon since I need to wake up in 7 hours for practice
[22:04] <sil2100> alecu: reconfiguring
[22:05] <cwayne_> sil2100, psh, who gets 7 hours of sleep :P
[22:06] <sil2100> cwayne_: hey, if I finish work now I won't be able to go to sleep straight away ;p
[22:06] <sil2100> I'll be lucky to be done with everything in an hour ;)
[22:06] <cwayne_> not with that attitude you won't
[22:07] <sil2100> I think I'll kick a new image in the meantime
[22:10] <alecu> thanks!
[22:15] <imgbot> [22:52] <sil2100> o/
[23:35] <imgbot> [23:35] <imgbot>
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2015-04-24-#ubuntu-si
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[06:49] <slax0r> jutro
[06:51] <zdobersek> aloha
[07:03] <yang> hawaii
[07:10] <slax0r> ALOHAnet?
[07:11] <Sky[x]> aloha je blo neki kar je blo prvo pri wi fi ce se ne motim, na pamet pomoj protokol :)
[07:22] <yang> .vreme lj
[07:22] <jabuk> ARSO: Ljubljana (299m): 12°C @24.04.2015 7:00 UTC.
[07:22] <jabuk> Vlažnost: 71% severnik 0.5 m/s oblačno
[07:23] <jabuk> Sončni vzhod: 04:01:50, Kulminacija: 11:01:09, Sončni zahod: 18:00:28
[07:23] <jabuk> Dan je dolg: 13ur 58min 38s, Luna je v ščipu
[07:33] <Sky[x]> kasna je napoved za drug tedn od torka - cetrtka? :P
[07:35] <zdobersek> jebeno
[07:37] <CrazyLemon> zdobersek https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/17510489/IMG_20150424_093546.jpg
[07:37] <CrazyLemon> ^jebeno right!
[07:38] <zdobersek> CrazyLemon: a pol si ti Lipovc
[07:38] <CrazyLemon> zdobersek ne to je sosed
[07:38] <CrazyLemon> :P
[07:39] <CrazyLemon> .apt libreoffice
[07:39] <jabuk> libreoffice-core {precise (12.04LTS), trusty (14.04LTS), utopic, vivid}
[07:39] <jabuk> libreoffice-common {precise (12.04LTS), trusty (14.04LTS), utopic, vivid}
[07:39] <jabuk> libreoffice-canzeley-client {vivid}
[07:39] <jabuk> libreoffice-calc {precise (12.04LTS), trusty (14.04LTS), utopic, vivid}
[07:39] <jabuk> libreoffice-base-drivers {trusty (14.04LTS), utopic, vivid}
[07:39] <jabuk> libreoffice-base-core {precise (12.04LTS), trusty (14.04LTS), utopic, vivid}
[07:39] <jabuk> libreoffice-base {precise (12.04LTS), trusty (14.04LTS), utopic, vivid}
[07:39] <jabuk> libreoffice-avmedia-backend-gstreamer {trusty (14.04LTS), utopic, vivid}
[07:39] <jabuk> libreoffice-accessodf {trusty (14.04LTS), utopic, vivid}
[07:39] <jabuk> libreoffice {precise (12.04LTS), trusty (14.04LTS), utopic, vivid}
[07:41] <napsy_> alright
[07:41] <napsy_> jutro
[07:45] <zdobersek> ahoj
[07:56] <Seniorita> [Ubuntu.si] CrazyLemon: Ubuntu.si na cesti https://www.ubuntu.si/forum/discussion/6316/ubuntu-si-na-cesti
[08:05] <zdobersek> :'/
[08:05] <napsy_> ehlo
[08:06] <zdobersek> a rabi stran hosting?
[08:06] <napsy_> kdo?
[08:08] <zdobersek> napsy_: ubuntu.si
[08:09] <napsy_> aja ubuntu ma zdj sstemd po novem
[08:10] <zdobersek> jebeno.
[08:11] <CrazyLemon> zdobersek a nimamo hostinga?
[08:12] <zdobersek> CrazyLemon: ce ste na cesti
[08:12] <CrazyLemon> zdobersek i'd laugh
[08:12] <CrazyLemon> but its not funny!
[08:12] <CrazyLemon> :>
[08:15] <zdobersek> ... he laughingly said
[08:16] <CrazyLemon> laughingly - word of the day?
[08:17] <zdobersek> month!
[08:20] <CrazyLemon> noice!
[09:05] <anny_> o miškoti
[09:05] <napsy_> o hai
[09:05] <idioterna> zdravo
[09:06] <Matthai> hmm, a je kdo že kdaj zaganjal live USB v VirtualBoxu?
[09:06] <Matthai> tukaj so neka navodila: http://wire.less.dk/?p=139
[09:06] <Seniorita> How to boot from USB in virtualbox on Ubuntu : wire.less.dk
[09:06] <Matthai> samo problem je, ker je ime naprave /dev/sda1
[09:06] <Matthai> a se da z UUIDji?
[09:07] <Matthai> ker ne morem vedeti kateri /dev bo moj USB disk
[09:07] <idioterna> zakaj je pa to problem
[09:07] <idioterna> sej live bootstrap poisce taprav disk
[09:07] <Matthai> če imam več usvb diskov vtaknjenih v mašino
[09:07] <Matthai> tukaj v bistvu mapiraš fizičen device na virtualnega
[09:12] <anny_> s katerim ukazom dobim telefonsko številko kartice?
[09:14] <idioterna> kere kartice?
[09:14] <idioterna> sim?
[09:15] <idioterna> mislm da sim kartica ne ve svoje stevilke
[09:15] <idioterna> telekom ti na tvoj IMSI obesi stevilko
[09:16] <idioterna> lahko sms posljes enmu k ga poznas
[09:16] <idioterna> pa ti pove
[09:18] <anny_> :)
[09:29] <slax0r> $a = &b; ali $a =& $b?
[09:31] <idioterna> kaj bi pa rad dosegu pa ker jezik je to?
[09:31] <slax0r> PHP
[09:32] <slax0r> ni vprasanje kaj dosezt
[09:32] <slax0r> ampak kam dat reference operator
[09:32] <slax0r> parser don't care
[09:32] <slax0r> I care
[09:35] <Matthai> anny_, na SIM kartici ni tvoje telefonske
[09:35] <Matthai> je IMSI, pa CCID
[09:35] <Matthai> telefonsko pa operater v HLR registru poveže s tvojim IMSI
[09:37] <idioterna> slax0r: ja ne pol si narobe napisu
[09:37] <idioterna> v prvi varianti ni $ pred b
[09:37] <slax0r> je je, vedno je
[09:38] <idioterna> ja, sam ti ga nis napisu :)
[09:38] <idioterna> 11:29< slax0r> $a = &b; ali $a =& $b?
[09:38] <slax0r> aja, ups
[09:38] <slax0r> :D
[09:38] <idioterna> zato mi ni blo cist jasn :)
[09:38] <slax0r> nism opazu, sorry
[09:38] <slax0r> sam ravno se pogovarjam na ##php, pravijo da je $obj1 = &$obj2; za backward compatibility z PHP4...now we don't want that, do we?
[09:38] <slax0r> PHP avtomatsko referencira objekte
[09:53] <idioterna> mhm
[09:59] <zdobersek> no we don't want php
[10:09] <slax0r> that we do
[10:17] <slax0r> https://www.dropbox.com/s/9x4d0coxe0fdczp/Screenshot%202015-04-24%2012.17.12.png?dl=0
[10:17] <Seniorita> Dropbox - Screenshot 2015-04-24 12.17.12.png
[10:17] <slax0r> we have a convert :D
[10:24] <napsy_> ka pa je prej mel?
[10:31] <dz0ny> windows
[10:31] <jabuk> http://cf.chucklesnetwork.agj.co/items/5/5/9/6/0/one-does-not-simply-declare-victory-but-i-just-did.jpg
[10:45] <zdobersek> wind
[10:45] <jabuk> http://thejointblog.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/04/victory.jpg
[10:45] <zdobersek> AL ALBA VINECERO
[10:46] <idioterna> https://pbs.twimg.com/media/B7G_nlbCIAEoYw-.png
[10:55] <zdobbie> .radar
[10:55] <jabuk> Radarska slika padavin: http://www.arso.gov.si/vreme/napovedi%20in%20podatki/radar_anim.gif
[11:06] <zdobbie> pa pojdimo.
[11:07] <CrazyLemon> zdobersek dont do it
[11:09] <Seniorita> [Ubuntu Security] USN-2571-1: Firefox vulnerability http://www.ubuntu.com/usn/usn-2571-1/
[11:16] <anny_> same luknje vsepovsod
[11:20] <CrazyLemon> a hole here a hole there a hole everywhere!
[11:22] <anny_> sam tiste ni, ki bi jo rabil
[11:22] <CrazyLemon> wormhole ?
[11:24] <anny_> http://goo.gl/MkWstc
[11:25] * CrazyLemon ne mara short urljev
[11:25] <anny_> dz0ny pa ne mara dolgih
[11:25] <anny_> bomo našli srednjo pot?
[11:25] <dz0ny> a?
[11:25] * dz0ny da plusek CrazyLemon
[11:26] <CrazyLemon> anny_ dz0ny tudi ne mara short urljev
[11:26] <anny_> km khm
[11:26] <anny_> bodo pa dolgi
[11:26] <dz0ny> sej sam + dodaš urlju
[11:26] <dz0ny> pa je dolg :)
[11:27] <CrazyLemon> too much work :)
[11:27] <anny_> preveč komplikacij
[11:28] <anny_> lažje je preganjat nove tekače :)
[11:40] <_1_ravi> any girl
[11:41] <CrazyLemon> anny_ is a girl
[11:41] <CrazyLemon> so hot
[11:43] <_1_ravi> really??
[11:43] <_1_ravi> (L):)
[11:43] <CrazyLemon> really
[11:47] <_1_ravi> anny where r u??
[11:47] <_1_ravi> :D
[11:47] <anny_> dej b
[11:47] <anny_> ga brcni
[11:47] <anny_> pa sebe ne pozabi
[11:48] <_1_ravi> bhnchod
[11:48] <_1_ravi> ma ni lodi
[11:48] <CrazyLemon> _1_ravi she said she really likes you
[11:48] <anny_> jaja, tolk ko tebe
[11:48] <anny_> to ni zmenkarski portal in jaz sem oddana
[11:49] <dz0ny> lol, what is going on here
[11:50] <anny_> krejzi ga serje
[11:50] <_1_ravi> lol
[11:50] <CrazyLemon> _1_ravi she would like to talk to you on private
[11:50] * anny_ kicks CrazyLemon somewhere where it hurts
[11:50] <_1_ravi> :'(:'(:'(
[11:51] <CrazyLemon> shin? :/
[11:51] <anny_> žlička
[11:51] <_1_ravi> bbyye madarchodo
[11:52] <anny_> zeh no
[11:54] <anny_> ko govorimo o luknjah
[11:54] <anny_> http://www.24ur.com/novice/svet/foto-in-video-to-je-razdejanje-ki-so-ga-storilci-pustili-po-spektakularnem-ropu.html
[11:54] <Seniorita> 24ur.com - FOTO in VIDEO: To je razdejanje, ki so ga storilci pustili po spektakularnem ropu draguljev
[11:54] <Seniorita> »Metropolitanska policija je objavila fotografije kaosa, ki so ga za seboj pustili roparji, ko so kot v kakšnem filmu izpraznili domnevno najbolj varen mestni trezor in odnesli skoraj 300 milijonov evrov vreden plen. Policija je v javnost posredovala tudi posnetke nadzornih kamer in za informacije o storilcih ponudila denarno nagrado.«
[12:00] <yang> v kateri drzavi ?
[12:01] <yang> pr nas ne morjo nc ukrast kar bi blo vredno 300 miljonov, tok velkih podjetih ni vec pa fabrik
[12:03] <anny_> London
[12:03] <anny_> ki je pokrit s kamerami, haha
[12:03] <idioterna> v zlicko brcas?
[12:03] <anny_> ja
[12:03] <idioterna> kr impresivno
[12:03] <idioterna> no sej si je posteno zasluzu
[12:06] <anny_> res si je
[12:11] <yang> https://www.google.com/maps/place/33%C2%B030%2752.5%22N+73%C2%B003%2733.2%22E/@33.5157505,73.0609817,15z/data=!4m2!3m1!1s0x0:0x0
[12:11] <Seniorita> Google Maps
[12:11] <CrazyLemon> zakaj sem si zaslužil?
[12:12] <idioterna> za zajebavanje
[12:12] <anny_> daješ bedaste namige fukfehtarjem
[12:13] <CrazyLemon> well.. freedom of speech anyone? :D
[12:13] <anny_> kdor hoče vroče fotke, naj gre na Fejstbukov twoo in te zadeve
[12:13] <anny_> freedom of speech se konča pri svobodi drugega
[12:13] <CrazyLemon> drugega?
[12:14] <idioterna> moji.
[12:18] <idioterna> js mam vroce fotke drugac
[12:18] <idioterna> tale recimo
[12:18] <idioterna> https://bou.si/pic/evakuirana-buca.jpg
[12:19] <idioterna> al pa https://bou.si/pic/hot-steel-disc.jpg
[12:20] <slax0r> show me moar!
[12:20] <upd> in kolikšen del buče zavzema para 90% ?
[12:21] <idioterna> upd: joj, sam enkrat sm racunu
[12:21] <idioterna> pa sm 2 dni rabu
[12:21] <idioterna> kr tezka naloga je
[12:21] <idioterna> k ni dost da numericno resis, mors analiticno
[12:22] <upd> lol ok
[12:22] <idioterna> mislm sej ce redno to racunas gre kr hitr
[12:22] <idioterna> sam js ze zlo dolg nism nc
[12:24] <upd> http://forum.kvarkadabra.net/viewtopic.php?t=3315
[12:24] <Seniorita> vprašanje I.Kuščerja - izpit iz toplote - Kvarkadabra forum
[12:24] <yang> slax0r: http://img.rtvslo.si/upload/zabava/vanja-nin-mar.jpg
[12:30] <slax0r> MOAR!!!
[12:38] <zdobersek> CrazyLemon: oh but I did
[12:43] <yang> kaj je bla una serija konec 80ih "beverly hills..."
[12:44] <yang> aha sem nasel
[12:44] <napsy_> oh yea
[12:44] <napsy_> podalsan vikend
[12:45] <anny_> lp
[12:47] <slax0r> mja, niti ne
[12:47] <slax0r> jodlari nimajo praznika :(
[12:48] <napsy_> verdant nochmal
[12:49] <zdobersek> slax0r: oni so bli okupatorji ;)
[12:50] <zdobersek> https://www.google.com/maps/place/33%C2%B030'52.5%22N+73%C2%B003'33.2%22E/@33.5117431,73.0558748,15z/data=!4m2!3m1!1s0x0:0x0
[12:50] <Seniorita> Google Maps
[12:51] <slax0r> sam mam pa potem naslednji teden dopust
[12:51] <slax0r> \o//
[12:51] <slax0r> \o/
[12:55] <zdobersek> (05:54:52 AM) slax0r: \o//
[12:55] <zdobersek> are you _that_ excited?
[12:57] <slax0r> yes!
[12:57] <slax0r> k grem nabavljat pohistvo za mancave
[13:00] <jabuk> M 1.4 > 31.km JZ od IZOLE @24/04/2015 14:52:08 https://maps.google.com/?q=45.37+N,+13.34+E
[13:04] <zdobersek> who's the lucky man?
[13:04] <zdobersek> CrazyLemon: DRZ SE
[13:49] <napsy_> oh ah
[14:10] <Seniorita> [Web Upd8] Andrew: Fix Missing libgcrypt11 Causing Spotify, Brackets And Other Apps Not To Work / Install In Ubuntu 15.04 http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/webupd8/~3/JgO4GXVGDYc/fix-missing-libgcrypt11-causing-spotify.html
[14:24] <Seniorita> [OMG! Ubuntu!] Joey-Elijah Sneddon: Will You Upgrade to Ubuntu 15.04? [Poll] http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/d0od/~3/tmHRqp7EsXo/upgrade-to-ubuntu-1504-poll
[15:46] <jabuk> M 1.5 > 28.km JZ od IZOLE @24/04/2015 17:34:58 https://maps.google.com/?q=45.4+N,+13.36+E
[15:47] <CrazyLemon> 28km, 31km zakaj ne napišejo italija pa je
[17:15] <upd> JANŠA JANŠA WOHOO
[17:16] <idioterna> a so ga se enkrat obsodl
[17:17] <upd> končno so dobil pamet po 5 letih mučenja po zapravljenih miljonov, pa desettisoče listov, so ugotovil, da če ni kaznivega dejanja ni kazni hahahah
[17:20] <idioterna> sej je kaznivo dejanje
[17:20] <idioterna> sej so ga dokazal
[17:21] <upd> očitno ne če je zunaj haha
[17:21] <idioterna> niso pravilno vodil postopka
[17:21] <idioterna> tko da je prov da je zunaj
[17:21] <idioterna> zdej morjo se enkrat od zacetka, pravilno
[17:22] <idioterna> se vedno pa velja da se mu je po sprejemu podkupnine nepojasnjeno bistveno povecalo premozenje
[17:22] <idioterna> kako je kdo loh tak butl da gre na cash kupt volvota pol k je dobu dirty money men ne bo nikol jasno
[17:23] <upd> to od kje se mu je povečalo premoženje je že druga stvar kot patria
[17:23] <idioterna> ne ni
[17:23] <idioterna> to je ful pomemben podatek
[17:23] <upd> mogoče je pa od urške :D
[17:23] <idioterna> ja pol pa nej rece da je od urske
[17:23] <idioterna> pa bo urska pokazala od kje je
[17:23] <idioterna> sej ni tezko
[17:26] <upd> no bojo že ugotovil od kje je
[17:33] <idioterna> ja sej ze vejo
[17:33] <idioterna> od valterja
[17:33] <idioterna> sam pac ce je postopek nezakonit pol te ne smejo zapret
[17:37] <jabuk> M 1.3 > 48.km JZ od IZOLE @24/04/2015 19:28:27 https://maps.google.com/?q=45.26+N,+13.19+E
[18:20] <dz0ny> idioterna: ne bodo
[18:21] <dz0ny> ker vejo da so blamažo nardil
[18:25] <idioterna> ne bodo kaj?
[18:25] <zdobersek> ne bodo bili
[19:21] <Seniorita> [OMG! Ubuntu!] Joey-Elijah Sneddon: Ubuntu 15.04 Flavors Now Available for Download http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/d0od/~3/xN9Bb4efw_Y/ubuntu-mate-1504-download-flavors
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2015-04-24-#ubuntu-africa
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[05:05] <Kilos> helloooo africa
[06:25] <Kilos> elacheche we have work soon
[08:14] <elacheche> Kilos, can I get a scoop?
[08:14] <Kilos> a scoop of what elacheche
[08:14] <Kilos> oh there is a new applicant
[08:15] <Kilos> one of the lubuntu peeps i think
[08:20] <elacheche> Nice :) :)
[08:21] <elacheche> stickyboy, still fighting with tha xml?
[08:21] <elacheche> that*
[10:18] <Kilos> elacheche look at this https://wiki.ubuntu.com/StreamlineMembershipApproval
[10:19] <Kilos> so how do we go about doing this for africa
[10:25] <elacheche> Kilos, that's a very very old wiki page.. We don't use that any more (as Ubuntu Membership Board :p You should knew that :p).. Otherwise, you want to make a membership like for #ubuntu-africa ? Yeah why not.. We ( #ubuntu-tn ) have done something like that from the beginning of our activities.. We called it Freedom Fighters Group.. In fact we have 2 groups, MC ( https://wiki.ubuntu.com/TunisianTeam/ComiteDirection ) and FF ( http
[10:25] <elacheche> s://wiki.ubuntu.com/TunisianTeam/FreedomFightersGroup )
[10:27] <Kilos> so then can you approve members or must they still go to the membership board elacheche
[10:27] <elacheche> You're talking about FF members?
[10:28] <Kilos> ubuntu membership man
[10:29] <Kilos> we have guys that think they havent contributed enough but they taught me every thing form when i started with ubuntu
[10:29] <elacheche> Hold on! why we're talking about ubuntu membership? O_o I don't get it, you want to do something like that for this team, or you're just asking about the real ubuntu membership
[10:30] <elacheche> Ah! You want to push those guys to be Ubuntu Members?
[10:30] <Kilos> i read that they are streamlining the process
[10:30] <Kilos> or is that also old
[10:31] <Kilos> i dont see everything , i have one old eye and one blind eye so rtfs frustrates me
[10:32] <elacheche> The wiki page you shared is outdated ( 2008 ).. Do you have any other link?? Many years ago there was Membership boards based on TZ and continents
[10:32] <elacheche> Now we have only ONE board with just 2 TZ
[10:32] <elacheche> I mean with 2 meetings
[10:33] <elacheche> Do you get me?
[10:33] <Kilos> ok ty
[10:33] <Kilos> see the new applicant
[10:34] <Kilos> works on lubuntu
[10:34] <elacheche> Ah now I can understand! Based on that old wiki you thought that we should get a board for africa too.. But the informations on that wiki are no more valid..
[10:34] <Kilos> if you dont remind me about the meeting ill steal all your dates and camel milk
[10:35] <Kilos> ya i was hoping we could do an africa board but never mind if its old. ty for the help
[10:36] <elacheche> L00L.. You're mistaken Kilos I don't own palms of camel :D You should visit Tunisia once..
[10:36] <elacheche> Kilos, you know what is the problem?
[10:37] <Kilos> what?
[10:38] <elacheche> There is many old wikis.. And they are so many, so nobody update them or maintain them.. That's the same problem with my LoCo Team wiki.. My next loco project is to reduce the number of wiki pages in ubuntu-tn to 10% or less..
[10:38] <elacheche> When we are many we create many pages, when the guys aregone or busy no 1 or 2 persons can't manage all those wikis
[10:38] <Kilos> good the main ubuntu peeps should do the same
[10:39] <elacheche> I agree, I'll start trying doing this with my loco, so I can figure out the best way to do it without losing time or informations, then will see about the rest ;)
[10:40] <Kilos> cool, good man
[10:40] <Kilos> make neo do some work too
[10:41] <elacheche> i'll try :)
[12:20] <melodie> hello!
[12:21] <Kilos> hi there melodie
[12:21] <melodie> hi Kilos how are you?
[12:21] <Kilos> im good ty and you?
[12:21] <melodie> not bad, thanks!
[12:21] <melodie> how is the project going?
[12:22] <Kilos> getting there slowly
[12:22] <Kilos> just need to advertise the site more i think
[12:22] <Kilos> will do that this weekend
[12:24] <Kilos> oh and looking for more translators
[12:24] <melodie> if your site would have a blog using Wordpress you could use the Publicize tool from the Jetpack plugin (provided by the devs of Wordpress) and have your posts forwarded to all the main social network
[12:24] <melodie> directoy
[12:24] <Kilos> but into afrikan languages
[12:24] <melodie> directly
[12:24] <melodie> for that part, perhaps the Ubuntu forums would be a good place to announce to?
[12:25] <Kilos> ill get one of our guys that use wordpress to do that for me
[12:25] <melodie> Kilos on our side, for now we need testers. Could you advertise ?
[12:25] <Kilos> im hoping it will be in the next ubuntu weekly news letter
[12:25] <melodie> https://launchpad.net/bento-dev
[12:26] <melodie> well Wordpress can do wonderful things with all the gpl'ed plugins
[12:26] <melodie> I have posted little things about it on several of my blogs, but the best is to stick with the posts from their places, wordpress.org and wordpress.com
[12:26] <Kilos> ok
[12:27] <melodie> have a "ubuntuafrica.wordpress.com", then from there get a askimet key, they you can do lots
[12:27] <melodie> askimet key is the first protection against spam, then one more can be added
[12:27] <Kilos> whew you really want to wear me out
[12:27] <melodie> then with Jetpack come numerous tools for every kind of use
[12:28] <melodie> Kilos "wear you out"? I don't know what it means
[12:28] <Kilos> um
[12:28] <melodie> but if it's too much info I stop! :D
[12:29] <Kilos> give me too much to think about and do
[12:29] <Kilos> hehe
[12:29] <Kilos> others read here as well so its fine
[12:29] <melodie> I was just spreading crumbs, your Wordpress expert can consult mine if he wants to.
[12:29] <melodie> Kilos look at the pic here? :D http://linuxvillage.org/blog/2015/04/24/sushi-trusty-a-tester/
[12:30] <melodie> this is the i386 version
[12:31] <melodie> the x86_64 has a different default background: http://linuxvillage.org/wp-content/uploads/images/sushi2-x86_64.png
[12:31] <Kilos> oh looks good
[12:31] <melodie> http://linuxvillage.org/wp-content/uploads/images/sushi-x86_64.png
[12:31] <melodie> I'll do more pics in the coming days (some with the system started in English too)
[12:31] <Kilos> like gnome2
[12:32] <melodie> but not desktop at all, just 3 main programs and config files easy to edit
[12:32] <melodie> we have to write tutorials too
[12:32] <melodie> all people interest to join are welcome
[12:33] <melodie> just Openbox means lighter, and the setting is first meant for non tech users, I have it installed at several people's places around my place
[12:33] <melodie> it's snappy, and they are happy ! :D
[12:33] <Kilos> thats good
[12:34] <Kilos> i need something light for old pc
[12:34] <elacheche> Salut melodie
[12:34] <elacheche> :)
[12:34] <melodie> how old is that PC?
[12:34] <melodie> hello elacheche !
[12:34] <Kilos> but no time to learn new stuff
[12:34] <Kilos> early p4
[12:34] <melodie> I'd like to discuss with you about something elacheche if you have a few minutes for me
[12:35] <Kilos> 2g ddr ram
[12:35] <melodie> early p4 with what graphics, cpu power and ram?
[12:35] <Kilos> very slow
[12:35] <melodie> very good
[12:35] <melodie> way enough
[12:35] <Kilos> onboard
[12:35] <Kilos> intel
[12:35] <melodie> and which p4 cpu?
[12:35] <melodie> yes Pentium is Intel
[12:35] <Kilos> 2.8g
[12:36] <melodie> great! Bento should be very comfortable in there
[12:36] <melodie> you can try one as is, or wait for the full blown version, as you like
[12:36] <Kilos> only i have to download after midnight
[12:36] <melodie> I would like to have some feedback before I push other ones though
[12:37] <melodie> will you be traveling and meeting a lot with the other African LoCo teams in the future? I might have an idea (not sure how good it is yet)
[12:38] <melodie> elacheche "<melodie> I'd like to discuss with you about something elacheche if you have a few minutes for me"
[12:38] <Kilos> ill try stay up and doanload it melodie
[12:38] <Kilos> he takes a while to answer
[12:38] <melodie> Kilos do you know how to use wget in the console, to download and resume interrupted downloads?
[12:39] <Kilos> yes
[12:39] <melodie> good
[12:39] <Kilos> wget -c
[12:39] <melodie> with the -c and eventually --limit-rate when needed
[12:39] <Kilos> and i supposee i can use at
[12:39] <melodie> your P4 is 32bits right?
[12:39] <Kilos> yes
[12:39] <melodie> ok
[12:40] <melodie> you might be one of the first testers on that version, you don't mind?
[12:40] <Kilos> no i like helping
[12:40] <melodie> I mean apart from myself
[12:40] <melodie> great!
[12:40] <Kilos> just just expect technical feedback
[12:40] <Kilos> dont
he takes a while to answer a while to answer || he is probably at work
[12:41] <Kilos> yes he is
[12:41] <melodie> Kilos you tell me if that works well for your machine, and if something does not work the way you want, and whatever question about how to configure this or that?
[12:41] <melodie> is that what you can do?
[12:42] <Kilos> yes i can do that
[12:42] <melodie> is the P4 a tower or a laptop?
[12:42] <Kilos> first it needs to identify 3g modem
[12:42] <melodie> I am not sure the drivers for wifi are already in it
[12:42] <melodie> aha
[12:42] <melodie> not sure about 3g modem, I have to check
[12:42] <melodie> do you know the package name for that?
[12:44] <Kilos> whew
[12:44] <Kilos> network manager
[12:45] <melodie> never mind if you don't
[12:45] <melodie> network-manager isn't the driver, don't worry I'll find out
[12:46] <Kilos> and modeswitch must work
[12:47] <melodie> there are usb-modeswitch 2.1.1+repack0-1ubuntu1
[12:47] <melodie> usb-modeswitch-data 20140327-1
[12:47] <melodie> and several packages from ppp to pppoe and others
[12:47] <melodie> I'll look what is needed for 3g modems on the wikis
[12:48] <Kilos> ty
[12:49] <melodie> what is the brand and model 3g modem of your's?
[12:49] <melodie> that can help me find
[12:49] <melodie> there are several options shown on that wiki page for 3g modems
[12:50] <Kilos> d-link 156
[12:51] <melodie> ok, I can find with that
[12:51] <melodie> I think
[12:52] <melodie> this one? http://www.materiel.net/connexion-wi-fi/d-link-dwm-156-60322.html
[12:54] <Kilos> yes thats it
[12:56] <melodie> is it DWM as this one, or DWL ? Both exist
[12:56] <Kilos> dwm
[12:58] <melodie> which version of Ubuntu works well with it? If you are using it now, what about I get information from your system? (thinking of "lsmod" output)
[12:58] <Kilos> 14.04
[12:58] <melodie> the official one?
[12:59] <Kilos> 12.04 didnt see it i had to use hacks
[12:59] <melodie> aha
[13:03] <melodie> Kilos if you do "lsmod > lsmod.txt" you will get the list of drivers loaded in the lsmod.txt file
[13:03] <melodie> then you can paste it?
[13:03] <Kilos> ok
[13:03] <melodie> if you have pastebinit installed, after you just need doing " pastebinit lsmod.txt" (without the quotes) and you get the url to your paste
[13:04] <Kilos> where does it save to
[13:04] <melodie> in the current directory
[13:05] <melodie> when you open a console from the menu, it's opened in /home/you
[13:05] <melodie> you can check that with the command "pwd"
[13:05] <melodie> just type pwd and you know where you are in the tree directory
[13:08] <elacheche> Sorry melodie I didn't seen your message..
[13:08] <Kilos> http://paste.ubuntu.com/10878485/
[13:08] <melodie> elacheche no problem, when you can
[13:08] <elacheche> how can I help
[13:08] <melodie> Kilos I look
[13:09] <melodie> Kilos here loot at: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NetworkManager/Hardware/3G#Provider_info
[13:09] <Kilos> ok
[13:09] <melodie> quoting : " Huawei E230 (HSUPA)
[13:09] <melodie>
[13:09] <melodie> USB
[13:09] <melodie>
[13:09] <melodie> works out of the box
[13:09] <melodie>
[13:09] <melodie> 3 Austria, MTN South Africa "
[13:10] <elacheche> melodie, If it's not an emergency I'll be on irc the night using ubuntiste-msakni :)
[13:10] <melodie> elacheche it's not urgent, and it does not take long either
[13:11] <melodie> Kilos pptp-linux 1.7.2-7 is installed
[13:11] <melodie> from your paste:
[13:11] <melodie> no
[13:11] <melodie> nf_nat_pptp 13115 0
[13:11] <melodie> is not used
[13:11] <melodie> I have to check further
[13:11] <Kilos> i only see vodacom by south africa but the modem uses telkom mobile as well
[13:13] <melodie> Huawei E230 (HSUPA) Austria, MTN South Africa
[13:13] <melodie> Kilos there are several
[13:14] <melodie> I guess I'll have to make sure all bluetooth is installed too
[13:14] <melodie> bluetooth 391136 10 bnep,rfcomm
[13:14] <melodie> from your paste
[13:14] <Kilos> oh can you see from my paste what is needed
[13:14] <Kilos> you too clever
[13:15] <melodie> it needs deeper research, but that can help
[13:16] <melodie> I don't know what the bnep module does and rfcomm has "com" in it.. so it's about it
[13:19] <Kilos> melodie i have a huawei e220 as well that 12.04 saw fine
[13:19] <Kilos> b ut it does random timeouts thats why i got the d-link
[13:20] <melodie> poor Precise will be totally outdated before the end of it's LTS time I fear
[13:20] <melodie> have you tried that huawei with your 14.04 install?
[13:21] <Kilos> lol i enjoyed precise
[13:21] <Kilos> the huawei works on 14.04 but times out for no reason
[13:21] <Kilos> the d-link stays online all the time
[13:24] <melodie> have you used that huawei a long time? perhaps it's getting old age issues?
[13:24] <melodie> or was it hanging when new also?
[13:24] <Kilos> it is old. was given to me
[13:24] <melodie> ok
[13:25] <melodie> do you have devices to straighten the power in the house?
[13:25] <Kilos> i dont have an income so our community helped me where they could
[13:25] <Kilos> i have a ups yes
[13:26] <melodie> good!
[13:27] <Kilos> wbb need to fetch sheep
[13:28] <melodie> ok
[13:30] <Kilos> back
[13:31] <melodie> I have to quit the computer for a moment
[13:31] <Kilos> ok
[13:31] <melodie> until this end of afternoon i think
[13:31] <melodie> I'll bbl
[13:32] <Kilos> i will be here tonight as well
[13:33] <melodie> ok !
[15:05] <Kilos> im here about 16 hours a day
[15:06] <Kilos> otherwise i cant do usa west coast and australia east coast
[15:44] <Kilos> whew elacheche thats a long time to wait for a meeting
[15:50] <Kilos> oh melodie does it have a network manager
[15:51] <Kilos> as long as the nm is easy to setup i can run it and connect via eth and share the network connection with this pc
[16:34] <elacheche> Kilos, I know that's why I asked for confirmation (I got it) and I added the date to my calender.. Otherwise, do you know that if you have informations in /etc/network/interfaces then nm will not work, you need to have just lo config in that file so nm can manager eth and everything else
[16:35] <Kilos> yeah the most important part of a new distro is network manager
[16:35] <Kilos> must be simple and have all the connections easy to set
[16:36] <Kilos> linux needs the internet
[16:39] <Kilos> and distros must be made with the ex windows user in mind, not geek types
[16:39] <Kilos> everything must just work
[17:04] <elacheche> I'll be online in few hours :) see you guys :)
[18:15] <melodie> hi
[18:15] <melodie> just here a few minutes
[18:15] <Kilos> wb melodie
[18:15] <Kilos> ok
[18:15] <melodie> Kilos there is network-manager and nm-applet indeed!
[18:15] <Kilos> we have time
[18:15] <melodie> and if anything is missing for the internet in this rc we will find out and add whatever is needed
[18:15] <Kilos> if those work simply ill get things going melodie
[18:16] <Kilos> and i can always get you here or the other channel for help
[18:16] <melodie> Kilos there has been a long time since the people's hardware has not been listed anew in the ubuntu databases, I think it's time to resume doing so, and the coming together of Ubuntu Africa could help doing so!
[18:17] <Kilos> yeah lets hope so
[18:17] <melodie> Kilos yes, chans and if I'm not there, there is the linuxvillage forum with sections in both English and French
[18:17] <Kilos> oh yes
[18:18] <Kilos> give me the link again for the testing OS please
[18:18] <Kilos> i dont want to get the wrong one and waste data
[18:20] <melodie> of course
[18:20] <melodie> i686 ? not 64 bits?
[18:21] <Kilos> 32 bit
[18:21] <melodie> http://phillw.net/isos/bento-ubuntu-remix/sushi-trusty-rc4-i686-3.13.0-49-2014.04.2.iso
[18:21] <melodie> http://phillw.net/isos/bento-ubuntu-remix/sushi-trusty-rc4-i686-3.13.0-49-2014.04.2.iso.md5sum
[18:21] <Kilos> ty
[18:21] <melodie> welcome
[18:22] <melodie> and here is the file about your usb modem: http://www.dlink.com/-/media/Consumer_Products/DWM/DWM%20156/Datasheet/DWM%20156_Datasheet_EN_UK.pdf
[18:22] <Kilos> and update upgrade commands work right?
[18:22] <melodie> there are other docs here too: http://www.dlink.com/fr/fr/support/product/dwm-156-3-75-hsupa-usb-adapter
[18:22] <melodie> do you mean "do-release-upgrade" ?
[18:22] <Kilos> nono
[18:23] <melodie> or do you mean "sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade" ?
[18:23] <Kilos> apt-get update && upgrade
[18:23] <melodie> don't ever do that
[18:23] <melodie> dist-upgrade takes care of the dependencies
[18:23] <Kilos> must that dist-upgrade be used
[18:24] <Kilos> and aptitude works?
[18:24] <melodie> apt-get upgrade does not take care of the dependencies and it is use in rare circomstances by developers, when they know what they are doing.
[18:24] <melodie> I never use aptitude, never know when it's going to be a mess with apt-get
[18:24] <melodie> just use Synaptic
[18:24] <melodie> and apt-get if needed
[18:24] <Kilos> ok
[18:25] <Kilos> i love aptitude
[18:25] <Kilos> never messes up with ubuntu and ubuntu
[18:25] <melodie> I don't like what is complicated, but, while it's a test version, you can test aptitude
[18:25] <Kilos> ok lol
[18:25] <melodie> you can tell me if that works well for you but if it doesn't, you can't expect my support on this one as I don't use it
[18:26] <melodie> now you should know, that while Bento is a Remix, which means non-official
[18:26] <melodie> it is very close to the other Ubuntu versions
[18:26] <Kilos> good
[18:27] <Kilos> i will first get it going and online before i experiment with aptitude
[18:27] <melodie> there are some descriptions here, if you want to have a look http://linuxvillage.org/en/downloads/
[18:27] <melodie> yes
[18:28] <melodie> and add programs, it's quite bare
[18:28] <melodie> dillo to browse... mousepad, and you can use mc and it's numerous features
[18:28] <Kilos> but if its close to other ubuntus then aptitude should work well with installs and so on
[18:28] <melodie> use mc with the F4 option to edit any file inside the system
[18:29] <Kilos> oh my more learning
[18:29] <melodie> you can use it with "sudo mc" without any trouble and once you get used it's so easy you can't believe it
[18:29] <Kilos> what about nano
[18:29] <melodie> mc + F4 allows editing a file, and then it's the same method as in a graphical text editor
[18:30] <melodie> just you use F2 to save, and F10 to quit
[18:30] <Kilos> oh
[18:30] <melodie> nano isn't awesome as mcedit and mc is
[18:30] <Kilos> ok ill look
[18:30] <melodie> I have to provide a tutorial to mc, with screenshots and so. I have to do it!
[18:31] <melodie> I will! (I don't know when yet :D )
[18:31] <Kilos> whew good luck
[18:31] <melodie> I have put up a wiki some time ago
[18:31] <melodie> http://wiki.linuxvillage.org/doku.php?id=en:start
[18:31] <melodie> not much in it yet, but that's ready
[18:31] <Kilos> ok
[18:33] <melodie> I must quit now, have a fast dinner, I go to the movie. there is the #2 of "Divergente" out tonight!
[18:33] <Kilos> enjoy
[18:34] <melodie> thanks!
[18:35] <melodie> a buddy who is in Africa most of the year and in France sometimes, and who participates a lot on the french ubuntu wiki : now knows about your chans and the new website. He is happy to know!
[18:35] <Kilos> good ty
[18:40] <inetpro> uh
[18:40] <Kilos> lol
[18:40] <inetpro> Kilos: didn't you say you use 32bits?
[18:40] <Kilos> yes
[18:41] <inetpro> is sushi-trusty-rc4-i686 32bits?
[18:41] <Kilos> http://linuxvillage.org/blog/2015/04/24/sushi-trusty-a-tester/
[18:42] <Kilos> i have that link too
[18:42] <Kilos> ya didnt she say 64 bit or i686
[18:51] <Kilos> inetpro thats the system they want to supply to schools in africa starting with mali
[18:52] <Kilos> so she wants help testing the latest release before thats made available
[18:53] <Kilos> or wants help testing before it is release
[18:53] <Kilos> d
[18:56] <Kilos> inetpro are you gonna try it?
[19:02] <inetpro> no
[19:03] <Kilos> sigh little old me on my own again
[19:10] * inetpro has enough to keep him occupied already
[19:10] <Kilos> lol
[19:27] <stickyboy> Me too.
[19:27] <stickyboy> But I'm still meeting with the Ethiopian Linux Users Group tomorrow.
[19:27] <stickyboy> :D
[19:27] <Kilos> lol
[19:28] <Kilos> have you found tsega
[19:28] <stickyboy> Kilos: Yah, I saw him today.
[19:29] <Kilos> good
[19:30] <Kilos> did you kick his butt
[19:30] <Kilos> you forgot hey
[19:31] <Kilos> how am i supposed to unite africa if you okes sleep all the time
[19:31] <inetpro> Kilos: like installing Kubuntu 15.04
[19:32] <Kilos> aw inetpro now im jealous
[19:32] <Kilos> but melodie needs help
[21:18] <melodie> hi
[21:18] <melodie> Kilos i686 is 32bits and x86_64 is 64bits
[21:18] <Kilos> yay
[21:18] <Kilos> im waiting for midnight to start the download
[21:19] <melodie> Malinux is the one ready for Mali (not my doing, a non for profit of my area produces it on a Xubuntu basis)
[21:19] <Kilos> ah
[21:19] <melodie> I am just hosting it so all can get it, the version is 12.04 and we might use something else next time
[21:19] <melodie> not sure if it would be Bento, or, maybe something built on Debian which is incredibly light and is starting to come out really, but really beautiful!
[21:19] <melodie> :D
[21:19] <Kilos> so i just do wget -c http://phillw.net/isos/bento-ubuntu-remix/sushi-trusty-rc4-i686-3.13.0-49-2014.04.2.iso
[21:20] <melodie> yes sir, that's the one you want
[21:20] <Kilos> and some time i want to look at that light one
[21:20] <melodie> and it should use between 130 to 200 MB RAM max when idle after install ;)
[21:21] <Kilos> was it antix
[21:21] <melodie> yes of course, if you have a machine with max 1 GB and a very rotten graphic card, that's what you will need
[21:21] <melodie> Kilos yes! you are a winner!
[21:21] <melodie> XD
[21:21] <Kilos> lol
[21:21] <melodie> exactly, antiX MX 14.4 :D
[21:22] <melodie> do you want to see my feedback on that one on their forum?
[21:22] <Kilos> bnut ill do bento this month and maybe antix next month
[21:22] <melodie> ok
[21:22] <melodie> how many times have you the possibility to download in a month?
[21:22] <Kilos> i have 2 g ram
[21:22] <melodie> yes you told me, I haven't forgotten
[21:23] <melodie> and 2.8 Ghz P4 cpu
[21:23] <melodie> what for the graphics?
[21:23] <Kilos> only 1g of data to download after midnight
[21:23] <Kilos> onboard intel
[21:24] <Kilos> oh no old nvidia but not a very good one
[21:24] <melodie> which one?
[21:24] <Kilos> whew
[21:24] <melodie> old nvidia is often better than old ati btw
[21:25] <melodie> "lspci | grep VGA" tells you
[21:26] <Kilos> let me boot it
[21:26] <Kilos> how was your movie
[21:30] <Kilos> nv11 geforce2 mx/mx 400
[21:31] <Kilos> but the pc can run 14.04 just slow
[21:32] <Kilos> melodie ^^
[21:34] <melodie> Kilos it was nice, thanks!
[21:34] <melodie> geforce 2 isn't that bad
[21:35] <Kilos> god so you smiling
[21:35] <melodie> which one is the embedded Intel?
[21:35] <Kilos> good
[21:35] <melodie> I am answering to the buddy who is French/African and wiki documentalist
[21:36] <Kilos> i dunno the inetl one but the pc ran better with the nvidia in
[21:37] <Kilos> tired now but want to start the download then sleep
[21:39] <melodie> sure
[21:40] <Kilos> im not fit like you
[21:40] <Kilos> or young like you
[21:42] <melodie> don't worry
[21:42] <Kilos> lol
[21:43] <melodie> I should be wise as you are, just I'm not and don't go sleep early enough. :D
[21:43] <Kilos> whew im not wise man
[21:43] <Kilos> i need you clever peeps to guide me all the time
[21:44] <Kilos> what does your buddy have to say?
[21:46] <melodie> that I have work waiting on the wiki. /o\ (among other things :D )
[21:46] <Kilos> lol
[21:46] <Kilos> hi ubuntiste-msakni
[21:46] <melodie> hi ubuntiste-msakni
[21:47] <melodie> Kilos do you sometimes meditate at bed time just before sleeping?
[21:47] <Kilos> no i just crash
[21:47] <ubuntiste-msakni> hi Kilos melodie :D
[21:48] <melodie> I do have an idea of a meditation that you might like very much, do you want me to share?
[21:49] <Kilos> to meditate you need to be able to focus and concentrate, i battle to do that with this stupid head
[21:49] <melodie> Kilos wrong
[21:49] <melodie> you don't
[21:49] <Kilos> i used to do some yoga but even that doesnt work anymore
[21:49] <Kilos> ok share
[21:49] <melodie> all you have to do is think about a single idea, preferably one which is unuasual to you, let it float gently...
[21:49] <melodie> then you are sleeping
[21:50] <melodie> well the idea is about us, us all FOSS and GNU/Linux and all Free OpenSource distributions from all around the world.
[21:50] <Kilos> lol i dont have to think, when i close my eyes im gone
[21:51] <melodie> We can say we mostly all go along well, through all countries, whatever the politics and the borders, we do our best to have it bright and awesome.
[21:51] <melodie> the idea is we should create our own virtual world nation. :D
[21:51] <Kilos> yes i agree. politics are bad news
[21:51] <melodie> this is the idea to meditate about !
[21:52] <Kilos> ok ill try
[21:52] <melodie> yes, try ! :-)
[21:52] <Kilos> i will, thats the idea of the site and this channel too
[21:53] <melodie> just let the idea float once you are well installed for sleep
[21:53] <Kilos> at least the linux peeps will work together
[22:00] <Kilos> night night melodie sleep tight
[22:00] <Kilos> i start download then sleep
[22:00] <Kilos> night all others
[22:01] <ubuntiste-msakni> night Kilos
[22:07] <melodie> I missed him
[22:11] <melodie> ubuntiste-msakni lately you told me you need to get more insights about IPSec?
[22:15] <melodie> asking the question because I went to read the dsc file from a packages that has for name strongwan, to know what it does
[22:15] <melodie> and it's IPSec related
[22:15] <melodie> http://anonscm.debian.org/cgit/pkg-swan/pkg-swan.git/tree/README?h=wheezy-security
[22:16] <melodie> "strongSwan is an OpenSource IPsec solution for the Linux operating system
[22:16] <melodie> and currently supports the following features:..."
[22:25] <melodie> good night
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2015-04-24-#ubuntu-vn
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[08:28] <gioans> xin chào
[08:28] <gioans> có ai đang trên ubuntu không ?
[08:30] <Stanley00> bạn có vấn đề gì cần support à?
[08:38] <gioans> có mình mới cài fonts windown cho ubuntu và sau đó là lỗi fonts chữ của trình duyêtj web
[08:39] <MrTuxHdb> gioans: lại anh hùng nghe chúng nó xui dài
[08:39] <MrTuxHdb> dùng root để copy chứ gì
[08:39] <Stanley00> gioans: không cross post nhé bạn, 1 là hỏi bên kia, 2 là chỉ hỏi bên này thôi :|
[08:39] <MrTuxHdb> :3
[08:48] <gioans> giờ xin khác phục cho mình với
[08:48] <gioans> mới xài nên không biết gì
[08:54] <MrTuxHdb> gioans: thì chmod lại
[08:54] <MrTuxHdb> bạn copy fonts vào chỗ nào?
[08:55] <gioans> usr/share/fonts/WindowFonts
[08:55] <gioans> chmod 775
[09:02] <MrTuxHdb> ờ
[09:03] <gioans> vẫn lỗi
[09:06] <MrTuxHdb> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NrI-UBIB8Jk&index=2&list=RDnkr77jE5GFY
[09:06] <SuperLuserv3> [YouTube] Title: 1. Blue Swede - Hooked on a Feeling | Uploader: Joel Gustafsson | Uploaded: 04/07/2014, 08:17 | Duration: 2mins 48secs | Views: 8,430,429 | Comments: 2,699 | Likes: 40,208 | Dislikes: 871
[09:06] <MrTuxHdb> gioans: sudo fc-cache -fv
[09:21] <gioans> cũng chẳng shi nhe gì
[09:27] <MrTuxHdb> gioans: mấy cái lệnh kia chạy có đúng không ?
[09:27] <MrTuxHdb> hỏi cho nó chắc :v
[09:27] <gioans> có chứ
[09:28] <gioans> mkdir /usr/share/fonts/WindowFont
[09:28] <gioans> cp ~/.../*.ttf /usr/share/fonts/WindowFont
[09:28] <gioans> sudo chmod 775 /usr/share/fonts/WindowFont/*.ttf
[09:29] <gioans> fc-cache -fv
[09:29] <gioans> sudo fc-cache -fv
[09:29] <gioans> sai là sai ở điêm nào ?
[09:38] <MrTuxHdb> gioans: nếu bạn tin tưởng bạn làm đúng
[09:38] <MrTuxHdb> thì bạn có quyền bỏ cuộc
[09:38] <MrTuxHdb> :D
[09:38] <gioans> vậy là chẳng thể sửa được lỗi này rồi
[10:47] <vubuntor491> hj a chị.. e có mới học ubuntu đang làm đề tài mà ko có tài liệu nên gặp chút rắc rối sau..
[10:48] <vubuntor491> e làm đồ án bên cấu hình DNS cho ubuntu 12.04
[10:49] <vubuntor491> sau khi đăng nhập root e kiểm tra ifconfig thì báo có card mạng
[10:49] <vubuntor491> nhưng khi e vào cấu hình bằng lệnh vi /etc/network/interfaces để chĩnh card mạng thì vào nó trống trơn chả có cái gì hết
[10:50] <vubuntor491> anh chị có thể giải thích dùm e ko vậy... hix.. em cảm ơn
[10:50] <vubuntor491> có ai ko ạ
[10:50] <vubuntor491> help e với
[10:52] <vubuntor491> có anh chị nào giúp e hướng dẫn cấu hình DNS ubuntu dc ko ạ
[11:30] <lewtds> vubuntor491: https://help.ubuntu.com/12.04/serverguide/index.html
[11:30] <SuperLuserv3> [ Ubuntu Server Guide ] - help.ubuntu.com
[11:30] <lewtds> tha hồ tài liệu nhé :3
[12:43] <MrTuxHdb> vubuntor491: đồ án mà chỉ có DNS thôi á
[12:43] <MrTuxHdb> đxrm SV bây giờ kém vồn
[13:33] <gioans> ubuntu bị treo khi đổi mạng Wifi là sao vậy các pro ?
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2015-04-24-#ubuntustudio-devel
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[00:06] <bluesabre> hello friends :)
[00:26] <DalekSec> And non-friends?
[00:37] <bluesabre> not too many of those, I'd hope
[05:35] <zequence> bluesabre: Hi
[05:35] <zequence> OvenWerks: Been a while since I was working on that, so I don't actually remember much
[05:35] <zequence> I'm thinking we should try creating a simple meta that installs another DE, and our settings on top of it
[05:36] <zequence> Add it to a PPA
[06:05] <astraljava> Hey all. So what plans for the next cycle? :)
[06:40] <DalekSec> zequence: Wouldn't you rather have whatever flavor figure out the DE defaults, and you just layer Studio stuff atop of that?
[08:52] <zequence> DalekSec: Yep. That has been the plan for a while, but we've not been very active with it.
[08:53] <zequence> astraljava: I'll start working on that this weekend
[08:55] <zequence> We have stuff from before that is still in the works
[08:55] <zequence> Better start with that, and see which way to go from there
[09:01] <astraljava> zequence: True. What are your thoughts on the LTS status?
[09:13] <zequence> astraljava: How do you mean?
[09:13] * zequence is travelling and will loose connectivity now and again
[09:14] <zequence> We already decided a while back not to put too much effort on promoting the non-LTS releases
[09:14] <zequence> One might as well think of us only developing LTS releases
[09:16] <zequence> All though each release needs to be functional of course
[09:21] <astraljava> zequence: I mean that how much new development are you willing to push in contrast to maintaining a stable upcoming LTS release.
[09:29] <zequence> astraljava: We do what we have time for. One thing at the time :)
[09:37] <astraljava> Hehe, well that much is true. And has always been with Studio especially. :D
[09:37] <astraljava> Not exactly devs in abundance. :p
[09:40] <zequence> Last cycle was propbably the least active ever.
[09:42] <astraljava> Right, but still you managed. That's quite impressive!
[09:44] <zequence> I didn't have to do much. I keep updating linux-lowlatency every three weeks, which I will be quitting now
[09:45] <zequence> The most work I did was probably at the end, when I realized our meta and seed setup was broken
[09:45] <zequence> Come to think of that, I still have one last linux-lowlatency update which I have neglected :P
[09:45] <astraljava> So how exactly is the kernel situation going to be handled in the future?
[09:46] <zequence> linux-lowlatency no longer has a patch, so there was no problem merging the source with -generic
[09:46] <zequence> There's just a config diff. We maintain that, but we don't need to do any building or testing of the lowlatency kernel, other than what we do for our own sake
[09:47] <zequence> i.e., making sure it's doing what it is supposed to now and again
[09:47] <zequence> I've kept maintaining the precise kernel, which still has a patch
[09:47] <zequence> The patch allows the use of rtirq
[09:47] <zequence> Nowadays, this can be done using a config
[10:03] <astraljava> Ok great! Thanks for the clarification.
[19:19] <cub> zequence, I saw about making videos. It would be about time. :D I'll start installing and setting up my workstation soon enough
[19:20] <millerthegorilla> does anyone know if I can upgrade xfce to 4.12 if I install the lts 14.0.4
[19:47] <cub> millerthegorilla, http://www.webupd8.org/2015/03/install-xfce-412-in-xubuntu-1404-or.html
[19:47] <cub> should be the same procedure in Ubuntu Studio
[19:49] <cub> exit
[19:50] <cub> oops wrong window. :D
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2015-04-24-#juju-dev
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[00:00] <menn0> jw4: i will keep digging now
[00:00] <wallyworld> ericsnow: why the dial changes?
[00:00] <jw4> menn0: I'll be in and out for the next few hours... making supper for kids, and then school open house - I'll try to get on longer later
[00:00] <menn0> jw4: no worries
[00:04] <ericsnow> wallyworld: in 1.2 http.Transport doesn't have the KeepAlive field, so I had to manually create the same effect
[00:05] <wallyworld> ok
[00:09] <ericsnow> wallyworld: thanks for the review :)
[00:09] <wallyworld> np
[00:19] <mup> Bug #1447853 was opened: Local charms are not added to storage on upgrade to 1.22.x <charms> <regression> <storage> <upgrade-juju> <juju-core:Triaged> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1447853>
[00:23] <wallyworld> menn0: fixes pushed when you get a chance
[00:23] <menn0> wallyworld: kk
[00:26] <menn0> wallyworld: ship it
[00:26] <wallyworld> \o/
[00:26] <wallyworld> ty
[00:31] <mup> Bug #1447853 changed: Local charms are not added to storage on upgrade to 1.22.x <charms> <regression> <storage> <upgrade-juju> <juju-core:Triaged> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1447853>
[00:40] <mup> Bug #1447853 was opened: Local charms are not added to storage on upgrade to 1.22.x <charms> <regression> <storage> <upgrade-juju> <juju-core:Triaged> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1447853>
[00:52] <sinzui> wallyworld, I am exhausted. I haven't found much. I split bug 1447846 from the other upgrade issue and captured some unit log
[00:52] <mup> Bug #1447846: Hooks don't fire after upgrade 1.23.0 <hooks> <regression> <upgrade-juju> <juju-core:Triaged by menno.smits> <juju-core 1.23:In Progress by menno.smits> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1447846>
[00:53] <wallyworld> sinzui: ty, menn0 is working that bug at the moment
[00:53] <sinzui> wallyworld, mgz and I also discovered bug 1447853, but I know have a cheep work around
[00:53] <mup> Bug #1447853: Local charms are not added to storage on upgrade to 1.22.x <charms> <regression> <storage> <upgrade-juju> <juju-core:Triaged> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1447853>
[00:53] <wallyworld> ah bollocks, saw that float past
[00:54] <wallyworld> will have to fix for 1.24
[00:54] <sinzui> wallyworld, the work around is to upgrade-charm --force. it works a minute later :)
[00:54] <wallyworld> at least there is that
[02:01] <ericsnow> anyone have a minute to review a patch for a very mechanical change: https://github.com/juju/govmomi/pull/2
[02:30] <menn0> fwereade: ping?
[02:34] <menn0> jam: ping?
[03:00] <menn0> wallyworld: i have a learned a lot more about the hook not firing bug
[03:00] <menn0> wallyworld: not sure I know how to fix it though
[03:00] <wallyworld> oh?
[03:01] <wallyworld> did you want to talk?
[03:01] <menn0> wallyworld: having jam or fwereade around would be handy. it's leader related.
[03:01] <wallyworld> oh joy
[03:01] <wallyworld> jam will be online soonish
[03:01] <menn0> wallyworld: quick chat would be good
[03:01] <wallyworld> ok, same hangout
[03:02] <menn0> wallyworld: i'm there now
[03:25] <wallyworld> menn0: if you get a chance, but doesn't matter if not http://reviews.vapour.ws/r/1481/
[03:26] <menn0> wallyworld: got it
[03:40] <jw4> menn0: does that mean it's not related to my changes?
[03:41] <menn0> jw4: at this stage it's looking like the hooks not firing issue is related to the leadership work
[03:41] <menn0> jw4: i'm not any wiser about that mode error in the logs though
[03:42] <jw4> menn0: well I know about the error - that's not critical
[03:42] <jw4> menn0: cool, I'll try and dig into it too
[03:42] <jw4> for my edification
[03:43] <menn0> we just had an earthquake, 6.4 but very deep
[03:44] <jw4> whoa
[03:44] <menn0> because of the depth it wasn't that severe
[03:44] <jw4> menn0: any damage
[03:44] <menn0> but my chair was rolling around by itself
[03:45] <menn0> no damage i think but it was a strange rolling feeling and went on for a while
[03:45] <menn0> i've only experienced short "bangs" up until now
[03:45] <anastasiamac> menn0: is south island sinking?
[03:45] <jw4> that's freaky... are earthquakes common in that area? Pacific Rim and all
[03:45] <menn0> yep, quite common in NZ
[03:48] <jw4> anastasiamac: he's ignoring the question... I think he's rescuing pets or something
[03:49] <menn0> anastasiamac: probably :)
[03:50] <jw4> quite a bit of activity recently: http://www.geonet.org.nz/quakes/felt
[03:51] <anastasiamac> jw4: :D
[03:51] <jw4> :)
[03:51] <anastasiamac> menn0: u should have apost-earthquake party, considering it's friday
[03:56] <menn0> anastasiamac: they're a little too common to be having parties for each one :)
[03:57] <anastasiamac> menn0: on a serious note, it's gr8 that it was deep. 6.4 sounds really scary... :))
[03:59] <menn0> anastasiamac: yes. this one was the same magnitude as the one that did this a few years ago: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2011_Christchurch_earthquake
[04:00] <menn0> the city is still a long way from recovering from that one
[04:09] <wallyworld> menn0: the earth moved for you in cape town as well didn't it?
[04:10] <menn0> wallyworld: ssh not in public :)
[04:11] <mup> Bug #1447895 was opened: Panic if jujud restarts while action is running <actions> <juju-core:New> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1447895>
[04:11] <mup> Bug #1447899 was opened: upgrade fails if no explicit version is specified <upgrade-juju> <juju-core:Triaged> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1447899>
[04:28] <jw4> nice sleuthing menn0
[04:28] <menn0> jw4: with the hook not firing bug?
[04:28] <jw4> yeah
[04:29] <jw4> finding the WatchLeadershipSettings missing document
[04:50] <menn0> wallyworld, jw4: bingo!
[04:50] <menn0> wallyworld, jw4: I have a fix for the hook not firing issue
[04:51] <menn0> wallyworld, jw4: adding an upgrade step that adds the leadership documents in the settings collection fixes the issue
[04:51] <menn0> wallyworld, jw4: I hacked it in without tests so let me sort that out before proposing
[04:52] <jw4> menn0: suh-weet!
[04:59] <menn0> wallyworld, jw4: initial, rough fix for hooks not firing issue
[04:59] <menn0> https://github.com/mjs/juju/tree/1447846-hooks-dont-fire-after-upgrade-1.23
[04:59] <menn0> writing the tests now
[05:04] <jw4> other than missing docstring on https://github.com/juju/juju/compare/1.23...mjs:1447846-hooks-dont-fire-after-upgrade-1.23#diff-d7b2b2c8e8ce6dfc1b7f09c3cf9744d1R1203
[05:04] <jw4> and forthcoming tests...
[05:04] <jw4> looks great menn0
[05:13] <wallyworld> menn0: branch looks good, still want to understand why listener hangs if there's no record. i think that's poor behaviour
[05:14] <jw4> wallyworld: I bet it's because the watcher isn't returning an initial empty event, like it's supposed to
[05:15] <jw4> wallyworld, menn0 it was a little tricky getting that initial guaranteed event in the Action Watchers, so I wouldn't be surprised if the Leadership Watchers have a problem there too
[05:15] <menn0> jw4: I think the problem here is that the code assumes the leadership doc will be there b/c it is for services created under 1.23
[05:16] <menn0> jw4: but someone forgot to write this upgrade step
[05:16] <jw4> the Watchers (afair) are supposed to guarantee an initial event, possibly empty, even if there are no records...
[05:16] <menn0> jw4: and without the doc there when the watcher is created the initial event isn't fired
[05:16] <menn0> jw4: are you sure about that?
[05:16] <jw4> menn0: yeah, I think you're right, but I remember fwereade stressing to me the importance of that... (but I could be remembering wrong)
[05:17] <jw4> (the importance of the initial, possibly empty, guaranteed event)
[05:17] <menn0> jw4: yeah, I know there's been talk about this but I'm not exactly sure what should happen
[05:18] <jw4> hopefully fwereade will be on soon and will chime in... I guess it's EOD for you though now (and EOW)
[05:19] <menn0> jw4: i've got a bit more time left
[05:19] <menn0> jw4: i'm going to try and get this fix done as much as I can
[05:20] <menn0> jw4: regardless of what the watchers are supposed to do I'm pretty sure we want this upgrade step
[05:20] <jw4> menn0: regardless, I think your fix is appropriate in this case
[05:20] <wallyworld> jw4: exactly, but to me that's not how i thought the watchers worked
[05:21] <wallyworld> +1
[05:21] <jw4> wallyworld: yeah, I'm fairly confident that's how I was instructed to implement the actions related watchers, but we should verify
[05:32] * jw4 off to bed
[05:51] <menn0> wallyworld: ping
[05:52] <wallyworld> yo
[05:52] <menn0> wallyworld: i have to EOD very soon
[05:52] <wallyworld> one sec
[05:54] <wallyworld> back
[05:54] <menn0> wallyworld: just need to hand over the fix for this
[05:54] <menn0> wallyworld: pushing now...
[05:54] <menn0> wallyworld: give me a sec
[05:54] <wallyworld> sure, is it ready to land after review?
[05:54] <wallyworld> or tests needed?
[05:55] <menn0> wallyworld: the hard tests are done
[05:55] <menn0> wallyworld: just needs a test for upgrade step idempotency
[05:56] <wallyworld> ok
[05:58] <menn0> it's here: https://github.com/mjs/juju/tree/1447846-hooks-dont-fire-after-upgrade-1.23
[05:58] <wallyworld> menn0: i'll either do it or hand over; it's my son's birthday today and i have to go to dinner soonish. either way will be done. thanks for fixing
[05:58] <menn0> it's ready to go apart from that one test
[05:59] <menn0> if no-one gets it done today it'll take me almost no time on Monday
[05:59] <menn0> wallyworld: and we need to forward port to master
[05:59] <wallyworld> ok, np. tbh, i don't think we are cutting a release on friday anyway
[06:00] <wallyworld> but it's now done so the risk is removed
[06:02] <menn0> wallyworld: ok good
[06:02] <menn0> wallyworld: well have a good night and a weekend
[06:02] <menn0> speak to you next week
[06:54] <wallyworld> fwereade: you online?
[10:17] <wallyworld> fwereade: hiya
[10:28] <wallyworld> TheMue: hi there, you ocr? would love a review of this so as it needs to land for 1.24 http://reviews.vapour.ws/r/1481/ it removes a feature flag
[11:13] <wwitzel3> jam: ping
[11:27] <mattyw> wwitzel3, ping?
[11:30] <wwitzel3> mattyw: pong
[11:40] <fwereade> wallyworld_, so do we still serve client facade v0? I'm not seeing where we do
[11:40] <fwereade> wallyworld_, and that would STM to be a problem...
[11:41] <wallyworld_> fwereade: ah, right, i wasn't sure about that. i wasn't sure what the exact mechanism was there
[11:42] <fwereade> wallyworld_, the ideal, I think, is to *never touch* the client API, and carve off changing functionality into more service-specific facades
[11:42] <fwereade> wallyworld_, otherwise you have to have an almost-perfectly-cloned Client facade
[11:43] <fwereade> wallyworld_, then when (say) storage evolves, it shouldn't need to hit more than one or two small facades
[11:43] <fwereade> wallyworld_, rather than dragging the Client mess into the equation every time
[11:44] <fwereade> wallyworld_, what actually changed on Client?
[11:44] <wallyworld_> fwereade: yeah sadly i think you are right, i'll have to do that, but will miss the branching of 1.24. bollocks. will have to forward port
[11:44] <fwereade> wallyworld_, bad luck :(
[11:44] <wallyworld_> fwereade: new params to 2 apis were added
[11:45] <wallyworld_> fwereade: if a newer client adds additonal params to the call, they will be ignored, but we need a way to tell the user
[11:45] <wallyworld_> hence the api bump
[11:45] <fwereade> wallyworld_, yeah, indeed, it really is a different API
[11:46] <fwereade> wallyworld_, so I *think* that the right thing to do
[11:46] <fwereade> wallyworld_, is to pull out a Service service facade from client
[11:46] <wallyworld_> yeah, i suspect so too
[11:46] <wallyworld_> i'll revisit over the weekend
[11:47] <wallyworld_> i really want to remove the flag for 1.24
[12:35] <perrito666> morning
[12:44] <mgz> perrito666: wala
[12:45] <redelmann> perrito666, ¿good? morning
[14:02] <katco> wwitzel3: ericsnow: stand up
[15:56] <alexisb> all, looking at this: https://bugs.launchpad.net/juju-core/+bug/1447846
[15:56] <mup> Bug #1447846: Hooks don't fire after upgrade 1.23.0 <hooks> <regression> <upgrade-juju> <juju-core:Triaged by menno.smits> <juju-core 1.23:In Progress by menno.smits> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1447846>
[15:57] <alexisb> ^^^ based on menno's last comment is this something someone can pick up and complete today?
[15:57] <jw4> alexisb: menn0 said it's almost done.. just one test for idempotency left
[15:58] <katco> alexisb: yeah looks doable for someone to pick up
[15:58] <alexisb> katco, can you please delegate
[15:58] <katco> alexisb: sure
[15:58] <alexisb> thanks
[15:59] <katco> moonstone are all currently working on bugs. any volunteers?
[16:03] <katco> cherylj: perrito666: do you two have capacity to land a simple bug?
[16:07] <perrito666> katco: sorry I dont feel really reliable right now.
[17:04] <katco> perrito666: no worries. feel better soon
[17:04] <katco> cherylj: sorry i lost connection. can you take that bug?
[17:23] <natefinch> man I really hate that we require go 1.2 for juju, it totally screws up my development environment for everything else... and many projects already require 1.3+
[17:26] <katco> natefinch: here's my setup
[17:26] <katco> natefinch: ~/.local/go-1.{2,3,4}
[17:26] <katco> natefinch: ~/.local/go -> go-1.2 during day
[17:26] <katco> natefinch: export GOPATH=~/.local/go
[17:26] <katco> natefinch: there is some churn with having to rebuild utils
[17:27] <ericsnow> hmmm...virtualenv for go...
[17:27] <katco> ericsnow: or there's that :)
[17:29] <natefinch> ericsnow: there's a tool for that... forget which of the myriad tools out there it is. of course, as katco said, you can always just run them side by side.
[17:32] <katco> natefinch: wwitzel3: planning time!
[17:32] <wwitzel3> I'm there?
[17:33] <wwitzel3> is it not in moonstone? .. (checks calendar)
[17:34] <natefinch> wwitzel3: not moonstone
[17:50] <wwitzel3> cmars: http://reviews.vapour.ws/r/1484/
[17:55] <cmars> wwitzel3, so i guess CI is going to set that feature flag to get that test to pass? what's the difference between not registering the provider vs. blocking bootstrap?
[17:57] <wwitzel3> cmars: the code on the unit doesn't see the provider as registered since the flag is local
[17:57] <wwitzel3> cmars: jam pointed this out no the ML and the QA ran in to it with CI tests
[17:58] <aznashwan> hey; could I please get a quick review on http://reviews.vapour.ws/r/1486/
[17:58] <cmars> wwitzel3, ok, got it. so this moves the featureflag check to the client? in what context does environ.Bootstrap run?
[17:58] <cmars> (environ's not an area of the codebase I'm familiar with)
[17:58] <aznashwan> it's a simple module; ~100 lines of code that actually does something
[18:03] <wwitzel3> cmars: just during juju bootstrap
[18:34] <natefinch> cmars: quick review? http://reviews.vapour.ws/r/1487/diff/#
[18:40] <wwitzel3> cmars: thanks for the review
[19:53] <perrito666> /query alexisb
[19:53] <perrito666> well, another bug in my irc client
[19:53] <perrito666> I should stop using daily snapshots
[20:24] <natefinch> sometimes I think Juju is the biggest example of what not to do with interfaces :/
[20:25] <perrito666> you exagerate
[20:25] <natefinch> perhaps slightly
[20:25] <natefinch> there might be a few worse examples in the world ;)
[20:27] <natefinch> I like the way everything is a nice generic interface and then in the comments we just say "this is for precise0
[20:27] <natefinch> s/0/"
[20:34] <perrito666> natefinch: I think that is an example on how not to used a typed language
[21:10] <mgz> anyone still around for trivial reviews?
[21:16] <mup> Bug #1448308 was opened: Skipped TestUniterUpgradeConflicts on ppc64 <skipped-test> <test-failure> <juju-core:Triaged> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1448308>
[21:21] <ericsnow> mgz: sorry I missed that format stuff :/
[21:22] <ericsnow> anyone around that feels comfortable reviewing http://reviews.vapour.ws/r/1490/
[21:23] <ericsnow> it fixes the "hooks not firing" bug
[21:23] <ericsnow> #1447846
[21:23] <mup> Bug #1447846: Hooks don't fire after upgrade 1.23.0 <hooks> <regression> <upgrade-juju> <juju-core:Triaged by menno.smits> <juju-core 1.23:In Progress by ericsnowcurrently> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1447846>
[21:23] <mgz> ericsnow: I can look
[21:23] <ericsnow> mgz: oh, cool
[21:24] <mgz> ericsnow: I also have a trivial ppc64 test skip branch
[21:24] <ericsnow> mgz: note that I only added the idempotency test, menn0 did the rest
[21:24] <mgz> /1488
[21:24] <ericsnow> mgz: I'll take a look
[21:24] <mgz> ericsnow: yeah, I already looked over menno's branch
[21:24] <ericsnow> mgz: nice
[21:25] <ericsnow> mgz: I'm pretty sure I got the idempotency check right
[21:27] <ericsnow> mgz: in the bug you make it sound like skipping the test might be masking a real bug
[21:28] <mgz> ericsnow: it might be, but we hav ehte bug, and know we need to do functional testing of the leadership stuff
[21:28] <ericsnow> mgz: k
[21:29] <ericsnow> mgz: so 1448308 will be closed only as soon as we resolve the issue (and not when the skip-the-test patch merges), right?
[21:29] <mgz> ericsnow: how-upgrades-work question
[21:29] <ericsnow> mgz: sure
[21:30] <mgz> ericsnow: indeed, I'm keeping the skipped-tests bugs open, because we keep filing bugs and linking them in the codebase, but counting them as fixed when the test is skipped
[21:30] <mgz> which is wrong...
[21:31] <ericsnow> mgz: cool, then LGTM
[21:31] <mgz> I'm on 1.23.0 which did not do this step, my state server notices there's a 1.23.2 with this fix and downloads it... how does it know to run this step?
[21:32] <mgz> we just always do steps on new versions and the steps must apply?
[21:32] <mgz> even minor ones, right?
[21:33] <ericsnow> mgz: I'm not sure, but...the idempotency invariant of upgrade steps ensures it's a noop if you're already okay
[21:33] <mgz> right
[21:34] <ericsnow> I expect it simply runs all the steps
[21:37] <mgz> ericsnow: test changes look good
[21:37] <ericsnow> mgz: k, cool
[21:38] <ericsnow> mgz: it made sense to factor out that stuff into helpers :)
[21:38] <mgz> I'd be somewhat interested in a test that ran the step on a as-if just bootstrapped system, no services
[21:39] <mgz> we don't try and do all error paths in these things, but that one does seem relevent
[21:41] <ericsnow> mgz: so basically the same thing as the existing test but without adding any services first?
[21:42] <mgz> (it should just return success without running any ops basically)
[21:42] <mgz> ericsnow: yup
[21:42] <ericsnow> mgz: I'll add such a test!
[21:42] <mgz> ericsnow: lgtm
[21:43] <mgz> hm, can I shipit and leave a comment in the same thing? not sure on the magic
[21:43] <mgz> I guess I jsut include that string in my text huh.
[21:58] <ericsnow> mgz: so is it correct that CI covers the upgrade scenarios now (i.e. the bug trigger will get exercised)?
[21:59] <mgz> ericsnow: see all the failures on upgrade jobs on 1.23 and trunk :)
[22:00] <ericsnow> mgz: that's what I figured :)
[22:00] <ericsnow> mgz: thanks for the review
[22:00] <mgz> http://reports.vapour.ws/releases/2557
[22:30] <mgz> "panic: rescanned document misses transaction in queue" ...that one's new to me
[22:43] <ericsnow> mgz: yeah, me too :\
[22:47] <ericsnow> mgz: hmmm...see #1318366
[22:47] <mup> Bug #1318366: jujud on state server panic misses transaction in queue <cloud-installer> <landscape> <orange-box> <panic> <performance> <sm15k> <juju-core:Fix Released by menno.smits> <juju-core 1.20:Fix Released by menno.smits> <juju-core (Ubuntu):Fix Released> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1318366>
[22:48] <fwereade> ericsnow, menn0, dammit, sorry, thanks
[23:00] <ericsnow> mgz: I'm going to ask menn0 to double check the upgrade step and tests when he gets a chance; that failure is a little suspicious.
[23:06] <mgz> ericsnow: seems wise, we're not in a rush now
[23:07] <ericsnow> mgz: yep :)
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2015-04-24-#edubuntu
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[09:33] <otoman> hi, why there is not edubuntu 14.10 and 15.04 edubuntu release?
[10:09] <highvoltage> hi ot<tab>
[10:19] <ogra_> and he waited so patirently ....
[10:19] <ogra_> a whopping 6 min !
[10:20] <highvoltage> a new record? :)
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2015-04-24-#ubuntu-website
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[13:41] <mhall119> daker: FYI, I spoke to IS about your ticket and they should be getting you an update soon
[14:32] <daker> mhall119: thanks!
[14:37] <daker> PabloRubianes: hello
[14:38] <daker> so we need to target 1.5.4
[14:38] <PabloRubianes> daker: hello, i've just saw the answer from RT
[14:39] <PabloRubianes> daker: did you got the comment I made in your merge request?
[14:40] <daker> PabloRubianes: you can look at this one https://code.launchpad.net/~daker/loco-team-portal/fix.1273491/+merge/229522
[14:41] <daker> and this one is still WIP https://code.launchpad.net/~daker/loco-team-portal/fix.777098/+merge/151644
[14:42] <PabloRubianes> daker: ok, but is gonna happen the same with the first one
[14:43] <daker> PabloRubianes: no need to change the status, you can just comment and under the comment field their a Review select, just select "approve"
[14:43] <daker> then the bot will merge the MR
[14:43] <PabloRubianes> ohhh
[14:44] <PabloRubianes> well I'll check that one later then
[14:45] <PabloRubianes> daker: let me check but 1.5 is also unsupported
[14:47] <PabloRubianes> daker: 1.4, 1.7 and 1.8 are supported
[14:48] <PabloRubianes> and 1.4 is supported until 1 october
[14:48] <daker> PabloRubianes: 1.5 is not supported anymore ?
[14:48] <PabloRubianes> no
[14:48] <daker> PabloRubianes: do you have a link ?
[14:49] <PabloRubianes> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Django_(web_framework)#Versions
[14:49] <PabloRubianes> I have saw it in the django site too
[14:49] <PabloRubianes> looking
[14:52] <PabloRubianes> daker: on the side bar of https://www.djangoproject.com/download/
[14:52] <PabloRubianes> Unsupported previous releases
[14:52] <PabloRubianes> is 1.5
[14:53] <daker> ok i'll ask IS again
[14:54] <PabloRubianes> daker: at the bottom of that page there's a table of the support status of the versions
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2015-04-24-#ubuntu-touch
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[00:09] <t-ask> hi
[00:10] <t-ask> finally, I got the bq ubuntu phone and I have to say it's nice
[00:10] <t-ask> ;)
[00:13] <t-ask> I bought a SD card, too. but how can I format or add it to the phones memory... I can't find it in the settigns dialog
[00:55] <nhaines> Saviq: thanks, I +1ed the bug report.
[06:44] <PhilippeP> 'morning
[07:18] <dholbach> good morning
[07:23] <robin-hero> Hi! I use the rtm channel, but I want to try the vivid relase on my phone. My question: Is devel (not proposed) channel has QA before an image release? So it is more stable than the devel-proposed, right? Is it enough stable for everyday use for the main things (phone, sms, etc)?
[07:28] <ogra_> robin-hero, the devel channel gets a little QA but is also weeks behind and not bugfree
[07:30] <robin-hero> So which channel I need to run If I want new features, but it has QA for the main things (phone, messages) at least?
[07:31] <ogra_> well, thats devel, it gets a small sanity test before the image moves from -proposed
[07:34] <robin-hero> thanks :) using a stable release is very boring :)
[07:34] <ogra_> hahaha
[07:35] * ogra_ likes to have a functioning phone ...
[07:37] <robin-hero> ogra_: yeah, I need to buy a used Nexus4 just for testing :D
[07:40] <ogra_> how much are they these days ?
[07:41] * ogra_ wonders if it wouldnt be cheaper to buy a bq :)
[07:45] <robin-hero> In Hungary a used Nexus4 130-160, bq with posting fee is 210 euro
[07:45] <robin-hero> *200
[08:29] <bgd> Hi everyone! I have a synaptics with 3-finger-swipe capability (as shown by xinput list-props) and I wonder how I can activate that in Unity, so that e.g. I can change the workspace with it?
[08:30] <dpm> pitti, morning! Quick question: what's the best way to find out how many -touch language packs are preinstalled on the phone to estimate how many languages are available there?
[08:30] <ogra_> bgd, you might want to ask in #ubuntu-x .... this is the phone channel ;)
[08:31] <pitti> dpm: good morning!
[08:31] <pitti> dpm: hm, how about: dpkg -l language-pack*|grep -c ^ii
[08:31] <dpm> hey :)
[08:31] <dpm> ok, on it, let me try
[08:31] <dpm> thanks
[08:32] <pitti> dpm: but I think we still actually install all touch langpacks, so:
[08:32] <pitti> $ apt-cache search language-pack-touch|wc -l
[08:32] <pitti> 40
[08:33] <dpm> awesome, thanks!
[08:35] <JamesTait> Good morning all; happy Friday and happy Teach Your Children to Save Day! :-D
[08:38] <bgd> ogra_: thx
[08:41] <Mirv> Saviq: tsdgeos: you probably never got close to 30 solid reboots with the unlock-device loop, so I can stop and start tuning?
[08:41] <Mirv> if I remember correctly, you usually got it under 10?
[08:41] <tsdgeos> Mirv: yeah 30 reboots seems solid enough
[08:42] <ogra_> Mirv, oh, also please let tony know what you plan to do, we should get his approval
[08:42] <ogra_> (awe)
[08:44] <Mirv> ok
[08:52] <dednick> kenvandine: ping
[08:54] <dednick> kenvandine: unping :)
[09:04] <E524> hi all. i use the devel-proposed images, and three things, i really don't like and should be better. one is even not logical for the design philosophy i think. where can i place these things best (not bugs, but more feature requests).
[09:12] <nhaines> E524: the bug tracker is also used for feature requests. :)
[09:19] <E524> ok thanks
[09:19] <E524> i will have a look into it (never used a bugtracker)
[09:37] <Saviq> Mirv, +1
[09:41] <jgdx> E524, file against the project it affects, not ubuntu-ux
[09:41] <jgdx> E524, there's also this handy overview https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Avengers
[09:41] <ogra_> jodh, hey, so we have bug 1447756 for the reboot loop issue now ...
[09:41] <jodh> ogra_: yep - investigating now...
[09:42] <ogra_> cool, ondra has a device that can reproduce the issue (but i havent seen him today yet)
[09:42] <jodh> ogra_: did the --no-log work?
[09:42] <ogra_> i dont know, i was asking him to test it last night, but seeems he didnt get to that yet
[09:43] <ogra_> we also dont really want to lose all logging of system jobs ...
[09:43] <ogra_> so it would only be for verification
[09:47] <E524> jgdx: thanks for the info, i am reading into it. one "bug" is not reported, now i need to find a good way to descripe it and make it reproducable for the devs.
[09:51] <nik90> Can anyone confirm if changing the orientation of *any* app to landscape and then press on the tab menu or header actions causes the app to crash on vivid devel-proposed?
[09:52] <nik90> example apps include gallery
[09:52] <jgdx> nik90, ouch, yes
[09:53] * nik90 wonders if it is a SDK or Unity8 bug...
[09:53] <jgdx> nik90, are you filing? Since the app crashes I'm guessing sdk
[09:54] <jgdx> zsombi ^
[09:54] <nik90> jgdx: yeah I am filing now
[09:54] <jgdx> thanks!
[09:56] <jgdx> mpt, apns can be deactivated. How do you re-activate an apn with the current spec?
[09:57] <mpt> jgdx, what is deactivating an APN?
[09:58] <jgdx> mpt, force majeure
[09:58] <mpt> jgdx, I haven’t seen that film yet
[09:58] <jgdx> mpt, it's latin for NetworkManager
[09:59] <nik90> zsombi, jgdx: bug 1448017
[09:59] <jgdx> mpt, actually, I'll take it up with Tony. Not sure it's supposed to happen
[10:01] <mpt> jgdx, if NetworkManager finds itself with a cellular connection but no APN settings, when it previously had them, I would suggest (1) queue a report for sending to errors.ubuntu.com then (2) trigger the automatic provisioning
[10:01] <mpt> jgdx, the flaw with that plan is that the same bug that causes the APN settings to be wiped might also prevent it from knowing that the settings previously existed at all
[10:03] <jgdx> mpt, I have a lecture, but I'll be back.
[10:05] <EdwardMorbius> hi, about those snappy based images for 15.10, that will be only for Ubuntu Next? regular Ubuntu will not be Snappy based in 15.10?
[10:06] <popey> yes
[10:06] <popey> regular ubuntu = unity 7 based.
[10:06] <ogra_> but eventually it will switch ...
[10:07] <ogra_> (not in 15.10 indeed)
[10:07] <EdwardMorbius> thanks for the clarification, I am writing a review of 15.04 for a local Linux portal so I needed to be sure.
[10:08] <EdwardMorbius> but .deb will still work in the future when it switches to snappy?
[10:08] <ogra_> snappy is definitely the future for almost everything ... but when that future is there is still a bit open :)
[10:08] <ogra_> no
[10:08] <jodh> ondra: can you poing me when you're about please?
[10:08] <ogra_> deb doesnt fit the snappy concept
[10:08] <jodh> ogra_: ping even! :)
[10:08] <ogra_> ping
[10:08] <ogra_> :P
[10:09] <jodh> ogra_: sorry, keyboard fart
[10:09] <ogra_> haha
[10:09] <EdwardMorbius> what happens to external software if .deb wont work, that are currently downloadable as .debs
[10:09] <ogra_> EdwardMorbius, there will be tools to convert them ...
[10:10] <EdwardMorbius> ogra_ so the user will be able to do it himself, downloads the deb and converts
[10:10] <ogra_> but a snap operates completely different from a deb, snaps usually ship all dependencies inside etc
[10:10] <ogra_> no
[10:10] <ogra_> well, yes
[10:10] <ogra_> but generally the expectation is that upstreams simply add theirs stuff to the store
[10:11] <EdwardMorbius> that included proprietary software like lightworks and skype for example, skype is in the store but lightworks isnt.
[10:11] <ogra_> because rolling a snap is a lot more trivial than packaging a deb ... and the design allows completely untrusted SW
[10:12] <ogra_> so everyone can upload to the store
[10:12] <ogra_> apps are completely independent from the system too ... which means you can upgrade bot completely separately from each other
[10:12] <EdwardMorbius> ogra_ I see, if its easier than deb then probably there wont be a problem with getting external debs in snappy format
[10:13] <ogra_> i.e. you can run a 3 year old snappy desktop with the latest libreoffice and firefox
[10:13] <EdwardMorbius> updated applications will likely be greatly appreciated by people, as now we need to upgrade the whole system to get new ones or use ppas
[10:13] <ogra_> without ever updating the OS if ypou want
[10:14] <ogra_> and thanks to the store design there can be a libreoffice.EdwardMorbius and a libreoffice.ogra in the store ... no more PPAs needed
[10:14] <ogra_> you just pick the package from the namespace you want ... it all comes from the same store
[10:14] <EdwardMorbius> so people who package ppas can simply move their stuff to the store? that will be great
[10:14] <ogra_> yeah
[10:15] <ogra_> and upstreams can just dump their upstream tarballs into snaps without packaging knowlegde
[10:15] <popey> EdwardMorbius: note there will still be a deb based desktop in 16.04 LTS
[10:15] <ogra_> over time i assume you will see more snaps than debs around and debs will only be used to assemble the images
[10:15] <ogra_> note that the deb archive will *never* go away
[10:16] <EdwardMorbius> great, I think maybe all this should be posted on Ubuntu website or somewhere else that is "official" so people know more details
[10:16] <ogra_> and there will likely still be isos for the old install variant
[10:16] <EdwardMorbius> popey so snappy desktop will likely come after 16.04?
[10:16] <popey> no
[10:16] <popey> in parallel
[10:16] <EdwardMorbius> I like that :))
[10:16] <ogra_> but once snappy is *really* ready with the above vision, the idea is to have snappy everywhere as default
[10:17] <ogra_> so your robot or smartwatch run the exact same snappy-core your desktop runs
[10:17] <ogra_> or your phone ... or cloud
[10:17] <ogra_> only the frameworks on top of it will differ then
[10:18] <ogra_> and that is what i like to call convergence on a plubing layer ;)
[10:18] <EdwardMorbius> sounds great, plenty to look forward to in the future :)
[10:18] <ogra_> (convergence is so much more than just "aww, my app runs on different formfactors" )
[10:20] <EdwardMorbius> yes, it is future with all these devices now used, and more to come. can snappy be considered in any way "rolling" or "semi-rolling"? or OS layer gets new stuff once new versions comes out
[10:20] <ogra_> it is already rolling
[10:21] <ogra_> snappy rolls similar to the phone
[10:21] <EdwardMorbius> so snappy will transform Ubuntu in a rolling distribution, you install once and thats it
[10:21] <EdwardMorbius> in a way
[10:21] <ogra_> right ...
[10:22] <ogra_> though its even a bit different from actual rolling
[10:22] <ogra_> the core bits will be rolling
[10:22] <k1l> why am i reading "trolling" all the time? ;p
[10:22] <EdwardMorbius> core bits like kernel etc?
[10:22] <ogra_> but as i said above, apps are 100% independent from the system
[10:22] <zsombi> jgdx: nik90: that is similar to the bug when text input's context menu is open in portrait and you turn it to landscape
[10:22] <zsombi> kalikiana: ^
[10:23] <zsombi> kalikiana: bug 1448017
[10:23] <ogra_> the core OS ... ubuntu-core ... and the frameworks it uses (Mir, Xorg ... system level libs will be in frameworks)
[10:23] <ogra_> but apps will be updated when upstream wants to update them
[10:24] <zsombi> jgdx: btw, do you happen to know anything about the bug 1433590?
[10:24] <zsombi> jgdx: like do we have a new service for that? what is the status from that front?
[10:24] <ogra_> EdwardMorbius, btw, this conversation fits better in #snappy :)
[10:25] <EdwardMorbius> ogra_ probably :) but you guys told me what I needed to know, thanks :) I will ask more there if necessary.
[10:25] <ogra_> cool
[10:27] <EdwardMorbius> now I am off writing that review, have fun guys :)
[10:27] <ogra_> you too
[10:35] <nik90> zsombi: ah I wasn't aware of that bug
[10:42] <ondra> jodh ping
[10:50] <jodh> ondra: I've got a possible fix for bug 1447756. Could you test http://paste.ubuntu.com/10877646/ ?
[10:53] <ondra> jodh OK I will set up other phone to compile it and test it
[10:58] <jodh> ondra: thanks - I'm working on writing tests cases for this change atm...
[11:04] <ondra> jodh cool, thanks
[11:39] <jgdx> zsombi, I have no idea.
[11:40] <zsombi> jgdx: bad :(
[11:40] <zsombi> jgdx: any idea who would know?
[11:45] <jgdx> zsombi, the people discussing in the bug, I hope :)
[11:45] <jgdx> zsombi, specifically though, no, sorry.
[12:12] <sergiusens> ogra_: is devel-proposed busted
[12:12] <sergiusens> ?
[12:13] <sergiusens> ogra_: on flo I get Failed to start a new media-hub player session: org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.ServiceUnknown: The name core.ubuntu.media.Service was not provided by any .service files
[12:13] <ogra_> not sure anyone has tested or touched flo in recent times
[12:13] <ogra_> davmor2, ^^^ do you know ?
[12:25] <davmor2> ogra_: few weeks back I did why
[12:25] <ogra_> well, seems broken for sergiusens
[12:26] <davmor2> sergiusens: stop breaking things there is enough to fix
[12:28] <sergiusens> ogra_: davmor2 jhodapp seems media-hub is starting too early or locking; restart media-hub and videos are back :-)
[12:29] <davmor2> sergiusens, ogra_: might just be a race issue specific to flo I'll have a play this afternoon and see
[12:38] <jodh> ondra: how's it going?
[12:46] <ondra> jodh haven't had change yet, sorting one more issue here, but almost done, so will test it
[12:47] <ondra> jodh do you have by any change build done?
[12:54] <jhodapp> sergiusens, davmor2 I've been using flo a lot lately
[12:54] <jhodapp> it's really good for me
[12:55] <jhodapp> sergiusens, what were you doing when you got that error?
[12:58] <pitti> sil2100: the two syncs in https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/vivid/+queue?queue_state=1 are also mis-targetted, I presume?
[12:59] <sil2100> pitti: yeah, was just about to poke you about that ;)
[12:59] <sil2100> pitti: sorry again, damn, I'll never get used to checking the targets
[12:59] <pitti> sil2100: no worries, it's not like it's much effort to reject :)
[12:59] <pitti> sil2100: (done)
[13:01] <sil2100> pitti: thanks! I promise this is the last mis-target from my side ;)
[13:01] <pitti> sil2100: really, no worries; I know how easy it is to get the spreadsheet wrong
[13:02] <jodh> ondra: do you want a package or just a binary?
[13:41] <ogra_> barry, is system-imge-cli --list-channels supposed to work ? returns nothing here on either device/install i have
[13:43] <barry> ogra_: yes, it's supposed to print something. try running with -vv and see if there are any clues in the output.
[13:46] <ogra_> barry, http://paste.ubuntu.com/10878729/
[13:47] <barry> ogra_: wtf?
[13:47] <ogra_> barry, same on both, RTM and vivd images
[13:48] <barry> ogra_: did dbus or python3-dbus change?
[13:48] <barry> ogra_: system-image-cli --version please
[13:48] <ogra_> slangasek changed the aliasing on the server, do you perhaps need to adjust something in the client ?
[13:49] <ogra_> barry, 2.5 on RTM, 2.5.1 on vivid
[13:51] <barry> ogra_: ah, i think --list-channels is broken. can you file a bug? i can fix that in si 3.0. probably not important enough to issue a 2.5.2
[13:51] <barry> ogra_: (i think i could tell you how to fix it if you wanna hack the code :)
[13:52] <ogra_> no, users simply were asking
[14:04] <ogra_> barry, bug 1448153
[14:04] <ogra_> pmcgowan, one for the pool ^^ (low prio i think)
[14:16] <matv1> can I trust what iwconfig outputs in terms of the wifi network i am connected to?
[14:17] <matv1> I am asking because today there was a new request for wpa2 with peap, MSCHAPV2 on the mailinglist.
[14:17] <matv1> I reported a workaround in an earlier bugreport about that that I am trying to reverify
[14:17] <ogra_> i guess yuwant nmcli ... but yes, you should be able to trust it
[14:18] <matv1> ogra_ ok i will try nmcli as well
[14:29] <matv1> okay so my workaround in https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/network-manager/+bug/1241986 still works
[14:30] <matv1> who can we bribe to get this pushed up the wishlist for a permanent solution though :) ?
[14:31] <popey> matv1: ---> pmcgowan
[14:31] <matv1> cool!
[14:32] <barry> ogra_: thanks
[14:33] <matv1> pmcgowan what does it take? ^^ :)
[14:33] <matv1> i have bottles of whiskey
[14:34] * matv1 is thinking he is sounding irish
[14:35] <matv1> oh i have potatoes too
[14:35] <ogra_> so you could make vodka !
[14:36] <matv1> haha i just read up on the irish potatoe famin
[14:36] <matv1> live and learn
[14:36] <cwayne> too soon
[14:37] <jgdx> matv1, send me the whiskey and I'll try
[14:37] <cwayne> while youre up ill take some
[14:38] <matv1> haha how can i be sure you wont drink it and fail
[14:38] <matv1> coding and drinking dont mix in my limited experience
[14:39] <jgdx> matv1, no guarantees :P
[14:39] <ogra_> you think all these awesome napkin software designs have been made by sober people ?
[14:39] <cwayne> matv1, well you just gotta not pass the ballmer peak
[14:39] <mdeslaur> wait, some people code while sober?
[14:40] <matv1> LOL everyone!
[14:40] <cwayne> ive heard rumours, but i've never actually witnessed it
[14:40] <cwayne> matv1, https://xkcd.com/323/
[14:40] <SturmFlut> popey: Do you know who I can ask about QtLocation/QtPositioning things on the phone? I can't seem to find out who does what
[14:42] <popey> SturmFlut: not sure, that's a bit of a vague question
[14:43] <ogra_> SturmFlut, tvoss and mandel
[14:43] <matv1> cwayne you made me day. forget about peap/mschapv2 :)
[14:43] <ogra_> for the backend ...
[14:43] <SturmFlut> ogra_: Ah, thanks!
[14:43] <ogra_> for just the Qt/QML bits, ask the SDK team
[14:44] <matv1> on the serious side though.. we need to start supporting wpa2 enterprise actually
[14:44] <SturmFlut> ogra_: QGeoSatelliteInfoSource::createDefaultSource() is returning NULL on the bq, so I think asking the backend people first might be the right way
[14:44] <SturmFlut> mandel: Ping
[14:44] <pmcgowan> matv1, looking
[14:45] <mandel> Stskeeps, pong
[14:45] <mandel> ups
[14:45] <SturmFlut> haha
[14:45] <mandel> SturmFlut, you! :)
[14:45] <mandel> SturmFlut, I need to check platform api to see what is going on
[14:46] <SturmFlut> mandel: http://developer.ubuntu.com/api/qml/sdk-14.10/QtLocation.location-positioning-cpp/ states that QGeoSatelliteInfoSource can be used, so I naively went and used it
[14:48] <mandel> SturmFlut, I really need to take a closer look, I've been dealing with the daemon lately, can you report a bug with sample code? I'll try to nail it down asap (next week I'll be doing a lot of work with location)
[14:48] <SturmFlut> mandel: Sure
[14:49] <mandel> SturmFlut, superb, thx
[14:49] <SturmFlut> mandel: Which project to I file it against?
[14:49] <mandel> SturmFlut, lets go for lp:location-service and I'll reassign accordingly
[14:49] <mandel> SturmFlut, send the bug url my way and I'll assign it to me
[15:04] <SturmFlut> mandel: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/location-service/+bug/1448180 , let me know if you need more information. I'm also subscribed to the bug.
[15:07] <matv1> jgdx it looks like I will be sending you whiskey after all ;)
[15:08] <SturmFlut> mandel: Okay, should have looked at the Qt documentation earlier, QGeoSatelliteInfoSource::availableSources() returns an empty list
[15:19] <mandel> SturmFlut, ah, ok, well, that should no be like that
[15:22] <SturmFlut> mandel: Which source should show up? The Android one?
[15:22] <matv1> pmcgowan thank you
[15:23] <nik90> mandel: while at it, could you also ensure that ubuntu location returns the correct source error while using the upstream property http://doc.qt.io/qt-5/qml-qtpositioning-positionsource.html#sourceError-prop
[15:23] <mandel> SturmFlut, I need to talk about this, atm we have the nokia here and the gps one combined in a single stream
[15:23] <mandel> nik90, sure, can you add that to a bug hehe ;)
[15:23] <mandel> nik90, I'll make sure next week I tackle both issues
[15:24] <nik90> mandel: thnx..it will really help apps distinguish between users disallowing location access to an app and genuine location service error. will file a report now
[15:25] <mandel> nik90, makes perfect sense, if you have any other location issues, do add them, I have a full 1 week sprint on location coming up
[15:25] <SturmFlut> mandel: Okay, I'll add this to my growing list of "projects that do not currently work because an API is missing/not working as expected" and wait what happens ;)
[15:26] <mandel> SturmFlut, no no, add it to a bug and I'll fix it hehe
[15:28] <nik90> mandel: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/location-service/+bug/1448187
[15:30] <mandel> great, thx
[16:21] <Se7> hellouu
[16:46] <robin-hero> Hi all! A quick question. How can I see when my phone last charged fully? System Settings only shows in days. But I want to know it in hours. Like 69 hours. Any command for this?
[16:46] <lolcat> robin-hero: days == 24 hours
[16:47] <ogra_> robin-hero, upower -d on the cmdline ... but not sure that does not also only show days
[16:47] <robin-hero> lolcat: I'm not sure about this, I think it show 2 days for 46 hours for example
[16:49] <robin-hero> ogra_: I don't see any relevant with this command
[16:52] <ogra_> robin-hero, well, there might be some dbus call to get the data or system-settins actually saves it internally ... probably kenvandine can help you
[16:57] <kenvandine> system-settings uses upower to get it, i think
[16:57] <kenvandine> via dbus
[17:18] <robin-hero> kenvandine: And how can I see it terminal?
[17:30] <dobey> robin-hero: 12:47 < ogra_> robin-hero, upower -d on the cmdline ... but not sure that does not also only show days
[18:44] <SturmFlut> I think a couple of months ago we talked about the File Manager or even the Content Hub getting support for network protocols like SMB. Any news on that?
[18:44] * SturmFlut has lost track of all the things
[19:00] <kapiteined> Hi, my bq ubuntu phone has a blackscreen and does not respond anymore. any pointers on what to do. ( wait for the battery to drain takes a while... )
[19:09] <dobey> kapiteined: if you hold the power button for like 15 seconds it will reboot i think; if you have developer mode enabled you could also try connecting over usb with phablet-shell and seeing if something is using all the cpu or such
[19:10] <dobey> SturmFlut: file manager will get support for smb at some point, afaik
[19:10] <kapiteined> Thanks! 15 seconds did the trick!
[19:11] <SturmFlut> dobey: Okay, that was my last information as well. Thanks!
[19:28] <brunch875> argh the #ubuntu channel is so full people ignore my question
[19:29] <brunch875> luckily I get plenty of love here (:
[19:29] <brunch875> Hi guys! How's it going today?
[19:30] <nik90> brunch875: hello hello :)
[19:31] <nik90> Today is a fine day..weekend is gonna be awesome!!!
[19:31] <cwayne_> brunch875, AWESOME
[19:31] <cwayne_> you?
[19:31] <brunch875> GREAT
[19:32] <brunch875> except my computer is bricked and the liveUSB kernel panics boohoo
[19:32] <cwayne_> well thats less than great
[19:32] <nik90> cwayne_: so what's your next big scope coming up ;) ?
[19:32] <nik90> brunch875: with 15.10?
[19:33] <brunch875> with anything I guess
[19:33] <brunch875> it can't mount the root fs, I guess the hard drive is faulty
[19:33] <brunch875> right now I'm going to burn rescatux and wipe all partitions
[19:33] <cwayne_> nik90, open to suggestions
[19:35] <nik90> cwayne_: well personally I am looking forward to that keywords feature so that I can add softpedia, my own blog and other news sites etc into your ubuntu news scope.
[19:38] <brunch875> unetbootin stuck at 0%. Looks like the god of techonogy is mad at me
[19:41] <dobey> nik90: is 15.10 usable yet? :P
[19:41] <nik90> dobey: woops :D
[19:41] <dobey> i wonder if there's an image built yet even :P
[19:42] <dobey> nope
[19:42] <nik90> dobey: well considering we don't even have a name for it yet, I am not surprised ;)
[19:45] <nik90> cwayne_: ooh I got an idea...a trello scope pls...it would even help the QA guys since they use trello for tracking silo tests
[19:45] <dobey> i don't know that a scope would be useful for trello exactly
[19:45] <dobey> but i've started working on a trello app
[19:45] <dobey> haven't gotten very far with it yet
[19:45] <dobey> a native app, not a webapp
[19:46] <nik90> dobey: oh you have? That's great!
[19:46] <dobey> yep.
[19:46] <dobey> because i kind of hate the web ui for it, and i have to use trello :)
[19:47] <nik90> well the scope would be handy when you are sharing your trello board with other people and just want to quickly see the status of the cards in a scope.
[19:47] <nik90> for creating/editiing a card, an app would be the way to go as expected
[19:47] <dobey> well, maybe; i just meant i don't immediately see a good way to represent the structure of things in trello, in a scope
[19:48] <dobey> if it's just the "set of cards assigned to me" maybe it wouldn't be so bad though
[19:48] <nik90> dobey: well let us know when you have something up and running..would love to propose stuff against it
[19:49] <dobey> i mostly don't care to know what the status of my own cards are though. i want to move them around :)
[19:49] <dobey> yeah, i've been really busy and haven't had time to make much progress with it yet so far
[19:51] <nik90> yeah I can imagine
[19:51] <dobey> and online accounts stressed me out when i was trying to make that work
[19:51] <brunch875> oh oh! I found an ugly bug. Know moodle? When trying to download a pdf after login, the download always fails!
[19:52] <brunch875> I can't download my course materials :[
[19:52] <brunch875> also, the 'files' section gets stuck red and can't dismiss the failed "unknown downloads"
[19:52] <brunch875> well, can actually dismiss them; but only temporarily
[20:42] <muka> I hope someone will help me here. I'm trying 'avconv -f pulse -i default -f video4linux2 -i /dev/video100 ~/Videos/myTest.wav', to record video. works fine on desktop but no luck on the phone. here is an error msg: [video4linux2 @ 0x1a14640] Cannot find a proper format for codec_id 0, pix_fmt -1.
[20:43] <muka> I tried /dev/video0, video1... too
[20:44] <muka> if I want to record audio only, works fine.
[21:15] <dobey> muka: i'm not sure if the camera is accessible via v4l on the phone. i'm not sure the android hal exposes it as a v4l device.
[21:47] <studio_> hi
[21:48] <studio_> are m3u tested on ut and if yes how to play them?
[22:11] <studio_> is someone online?
[23:21] <Azelphur> Anyone know if it's possible to install qemu on Ubuntu touch and run an x86 guest on a Nexus 7?
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