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[00:11] <RAOF> gQuigs: There's currently no cross-desktop solution for !X11\
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2015-04-24-#ubuntu-ko
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[00:18] <Work^Seony> http://ppss.kr/archives/37369
[00:36] <Work^Seony> 저게 진짜 그렇게 구하기 어려운 건가요?
[00:37] <Work^Seony> 아마존에서 팔긴 하는데... 사놔야하나 ㅎㅎ
[00:52] <ujuc> 안녕하세요 :)
[00:54] <Work^Seony> 안녕하세요
[01:01] <ujuc> :_
[01:01] <ujuc> :)
[01:18] <razGon_Xch2> 의류쪽에 직구할만한 괜찮은 ㄱ곳은 어디가 있을까요?
[01:22] <Work^Seony> 외국 의류라면... 요즘 한국에 외국 의류 파는데 많지않아요?
[01:27] <razGon_Xch2> 싸게 구입하려는 ㄱ거죠.ㅋ
[01:28] <razGon_Xch2> 울마눌님께서 그리 말씀 하시네요.
[01:29] <Work^Seony> 그렇군요... 저는 잘 모르지만, 배송비 감안하면 직구랑 그리 큰 차이가 없지않나 싶은데요...
[01:46] <DarkCircle> 의류는 ....
[01:47] <DarkCircle> 옷감은 한국산만한 퀄리티가 나는 나라가 없는데 'ㅅ'a
[02:08] <razGon_Xch2> 문제는 영국산옷을 ㄱ고집하는 울마눌의 문제죠.쩝.
[02:08] <razGon_Xch2> 한국산 사라면 되는데
[02:08] <Work^Seony> 영국산이면 무슨 브랜드에요?
[02:13] <razGon_Xch2> 버버리요.
[02:13] <razGon_Xch2> 쩝... 미쳣지...
[02:13] <razGon_Xch2> 거기 사이트 보니 제 한달 용돈이더라구요.
[02:13] <razGon_Xch2> 무슨 애들에게 그런거 입히면 되나?
[02:14] <razGon_Xch2> 장모님과 마눌님이 이상하게 애들을 잘못키우는건 아닌가 생각되요.
[02:22] <Work^Seony> 헐 ㅎㅎㅎ
[02:41] <AutoWiZ_znc> 버버리 많이비싸던데요 ㅠㅠ
[02:58] <ircCloud^Seony> 버버리 비싸죠. 명품인데요 ㅎㅎ
[02:58] <ircCloud^Seony> 여기서도 비싼 편이에요. 그나마 한국보단 싸지만...
[03:04] <razGon_Xch2> 그렇죠.
[03:04] <razGon_Xch2> 그거 노리는 건데. 한국은 너무 비싸게 해먹어서요.
[03:04] <razGon_Xch2> 솔직ㄱ히 그거 별루...
[03:05] <razGon_Xch2> 그냥 애들 입히는건 그냥 입히고 싶은데 딸이니..ㅠㅠ
[03:47] <DarkCircle> 근데 단순히 브랜드만 보고 사려는게 아니라 디자인 때문에 사려는거 같은데요.
[03:48] <DarkCircle> 바디 피팅이 잘 맞는게 (...)
[03:50] <HolyKnight> 펌)인턴끝나고 계약직 이야기하는데
[03:50] <HolyKnight> 월급여 60이하... 이야기하셔서
[03:50] <HolyKnight> 지금 하고있는 업무까지만하고 때려치기로.. 하..
[03:51] <DarkCircle> 그냥 쉽게 말해서 직원 안받겠다 이 얘기죠
[07:40] <bluedusk_> 안녕하세요
[07:40] <bluedusk_> 아름다운 밤이에요
[07:48] <pchero_work> http://monster.com 접속 되나요?
[07:48] <pchero_work> 아무나 잠시 확인좀 부탁드려요.. ㅎㅎㅎ
[08:22] <bluedusk_> pchero_work: The webpage at http://www.monster.com/geo/siteselection has resulted in too many redirects. Clearing your cookies for this site or allowing third-party cookies may fix the problem. If not, it is possibly a server configuration issue and not a problem with your computer.
[08:28] <DarkCircle> 리다이렉션을 어떻게 걸었는지 모르겠는데 뭔가 백엔드에서 RedirectionLimit에 걸리게 만드는거 같네요
[08:29] <pchero_work> 흠...
[08:29] <pchero_work> 저기 잡 리크루팅 사이튼데 갑자기 접속이 안돼서요. 저만 그러는건 아닌가 보네요.
[08:29] <pchero_work> DarkCircle: 감사합니다. ㅎ
[08:30] <DarkCircle> bluedusk_ , ...는 밤이라니 !!
[08:30] <bluedusk_> DarkCircle: 여기 삼성역인데요
[08:30] <bluedusk_> 퇴근좀 시켜주세요
[08:31] <DarkCircle> 헐 ㅡ,.ㅡ
[08:40] <bluedusk_> 만년필 떨어져서 촉이 휘었는데
[08:40] <bluedusk_> 이걸 어케야 할지 고민이네요 진짜
[09:19] <ujuc> 어디껀가요??
[09:19] <ujuc> 촉부분은 왠만해서 교정해줍니다..
[09:19] <ujuc> 너무 휘어서 교정했는데도... 문제가 있으면 촉만 구입을 하시면되구요..;;;
[09:19] <ujuc> bluedusk_,
[09:30] <pchero_work> http://emptydream.tistory.com/3757
[09:30] <pchero_work> ㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋ
[10:05] <HolyKnight> http://emptydream.tistory.com/m/post/3757
[10:32] <PotatoGim> ㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋ
[10:32] <PotatoGim> 이거보면 도망가
[10:43] <AutoWiZ_znc> 안녕핫에ㅛ
[10:43] <AutoWiZ_znc> 안녕하세요
[10:43] <Seony> 안녕하세요
[12:05] <samahui_WS> 불금!!!
[12:19] <AutoWiZ_znc> 불금은 사무실에서~~ 끼얏호~~
[12:23] <samahui_WS> 글런거죠~ 불금은 사무실에서 정답게 열심히 일하는...
[12:23] <samahui_WS> 왜 서글플까요?
[12:23] <AutoWiZ_znc> 정답게 일하면 참 좋을텐데요...
[12:23] <AutoWiZ_znc> 저는 혼자네요
[12:24] <samahui_WS> 정답게 누군가를 씹으면서 일하면 더 달콤하답니다
[12:24] <samahui_WS> 혼자가 편하죠
[12:24] <samahui_WS> 전 이상하게 야근할때 누구 있는거 보다 혼자서 덩그러니 남아서 하는게 더 집중이 잘되서 좋더라고요
[12:24] <AutoWiZ_znc> 집중은 잘 되네요 ㅎㅎ
[12:25] <AutoWiZ_znc> 혼자일하는거 자체가 좀 짜증이나서 그렇지요
[12:25] <samahui_WS> 전 혼자건 같이건 일하는건 괜찮은데 ... 잘 안되서 짜증나요 ㅎㅎ
[12:26] <samahui_WS> 이상하게 오늘은 집중이 안되네요
[12:26] <AutoWiZ_znc> 이런 ㅠㅠ
[12:26] <AutoWiZ_znc> 제가 뭐 도움이 될 만한건 없을까요?
[12:26] <samahui_WS> ㅎㅎ 마음만 감사히 받겠습니다
[12:27] <AutoWiZ_znc> 감사합니다 ㅎㅎ
[12:27] <samahui_WS> 대충하다가 들어가서 집에서 딸과 마눌님과 즐거운 시간이나 갖으렵니다 ㅎㅎ ;;
[12:27] <samahui_WS> 정리하고 가려는데 집중이 안되는 날 답게 갈무리를 못하고 있어요
[12:27] <samahui_WS> 걍 파워 내리고 팍~ 일어나버리고 싶네요
[12:32] <AutoWiZ_znc> 아이고 안됩니다.
[12:32] <AutoWiZ_znc> 그러다 대형 사고 터질지도 모릅니다
[12:41] <samahui_WS> 사고는 이미 쳐서 그거 수습중입니다 ㅎㅎ
[12:42] <samahui_WS> 아~ 일안되 그냥 들어가봐야겠습니다. 즐거운 주말 보내시고 후딱 마무리하고 들어가세요~
[12:57] <samahui_WS> 역시... 내 성격에 하던거 마무리 못하고 손놓는 짓을 못하겠어요 ㅜㅜ
[12:59] <AutoWiZ_znc> 저는 하도 당하다 보니 이젠뭐 그냥 확 놔버립니다 ㅋㅋ
[13:04] <samahui_WS> 전 이제 다른 누군가가 당하게 하는 입장인지라 ㅎㅎ ;; 오랜만에 당하려니 힘드네요
[14:14] <samahui_WS> 집중이되니 금방 해결되는군요
[14:14] <samahui_WS> 역시 일은 될때 해야되요
[16:58] <AutoWiZ_znc> 냐므
[18:17] <Work^Seony> 안녕하세요
[18:40] <AutoWiZ_znc> 안녕하세요
[18:40] <Work^Seony> 거기는 오늘 토요일이죠?
[18:48] <AutoWiZ_znc> 네 토요일 입니다.
[18:48] <Work^Seony> 흐 토요일인데 아직...
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2015-04-24-#ubuntu-release
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[08:44] <xnox> doko_: are we open yet? where should new boost go?
[08:44] <ogra_> xnox, did you hear a name yet ?
[08:44] <xnox> infinity: or are we in nonameyet territory?
[08:45] <xnox> ogra_: nope. le sigh.
[08:45] <xnox> ok i'm not volunteering without a name ;-)
[08:45] <xnox> cjwatson: ^
[08:45] <infinity> We're nameless.
[08:45] <ogra_> we should just call it ThatWThing
[08:47] <xnox> just call it warty warthog
[08:47] <xnox> part II
[08:48] <xnox> LP
[08:48] <xnox> EP
[08:48] <ogra_> warty warthog redux :)
[08:58] <Ukikie> Wistful Woodpecker.
[08:58] <Ukikie> Done. ;P
[09:08] <tjaalton> could someone ack my x-x-v-intel upload to utopic and lts-utopic backport to trusty?
[09:08] <tjaalton> review first of course :)
[09:11] <infinity> tjaalton: I could just reject it, if that helps.
[09:12] <tjaalton> infinity: mmm.. not really, unless there's something wrong of course :)
[09:18] <infinity> tjaalton: Accepted, but then noticed afterward that your chagelog bug ref is wrong, so the bugs won't autoclose. Please be sure to track them by hand.
[09:19] <cjwatson> infinity: So shall we do ddebs while we're waiting?
[09:20] <wgrant> I have a list of PPAs that should also have it enabled.
[09:20] <wgrant> Was going to do it last night, but beer.
[09:21] <cjwatson> Beer is important.
[09:22] <wgrant> We're also about to obsolete q/r/s.
[09:22] <wgrant> And clean up dists.
[09:26] <tjaalton> infinity: oh bah, LP: missing
[09:28] <infinity> tjaalton: Yeah. I'm not quite awake this morning, or I would have rejected for that. But not world-ending, just make sure it's all sorted manually.
[09:28] <tjaalton> sure will
[09:29] <tjaalton> thanks
[09:48] <wgrant> cjwatson: Can you think of any reason not to go ahead with killing quantal, raring and saucy from ftpmaster? saucy was finally killed from archive yesterday.
[09:50] <cjwatson> wgrant: None that I know of. JFDI
[12:55] <jamespage> infinity, hey - the MIR for conntrack completed on the morning of release:
[12:55] <jamespage> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/conntrack/+bug/1381450
[12:55] <jamespage> am I going to get myself intro trouble if I add that dependency to the neutron stable updates well be doing next week?
[12:57] <infinity> jamespage: Ugh. Would have been nice if someone had pointed that out.
[12:57] <infinity> jamespage: But we can "fix" it by copying it to -updates and changing the component there.
[12:57] <jamespage> infinity, I only noticed after the general whirlwind yesterday
[12:58] <jamespage> I knew the security team where trying to squeeze in the review, but failed to note that it had completed..
[13:26] <wgrant> Enabled ddebs on both primary archives and the silos.
[13:26] <wgrant> Silos have publication enabled too, primary archives not.
[13:28] <cjwatson> \o/
[13:29] <cjwatson> Anyone have an excuse to accept anything in -proposed?
[13:30] <cjwatson> wgrant: Would it be worthwhile on partner too?
[13:31] <wgrant> cjwatson: Possibly.
[13:31] <wgrant> infinity: https://pastebin.canonical.com/130301/ is the list of archives that have binaries in the primary archive
[13:31] <cjwatson> distribution.name :)
[13:36] <wgrant> Indeed, I'm living in the past.
[17:24] <deej> infinity and/or any other release managers, it looks like the metadata for vivid/Contents-amd64.gz is wrong in the Release file and it's making our AWS mirrors freak out
[17:24] <deej> And I imagine other things as well
[17:24] <deej> How can we get that fixed?
[17:48] <xnox> infinity: cjwatson: wgrant: ^^^^ from deej
[17:48] <deej> wgrant is on his way apparently
[17:49] <apw> lots of looking is going on ...
[17:49] <wgrant> Yeah, Adam and I are investigating.
[19:06] <wgrant> deej: Does Contents look OK now?
[19:07] <deej> Let me check
[19:08] <deej> wgrant: It'll take me a minute to double check the md5, but sizes match
[19:10] <wgrant> deej: Yeah, looks good on pepo now, but will be interesting to see if anything else is borked.
[19:10] <deej> wgrant: Looks good to me
[19:10] <wgrant> https://bugs.launchpad.net/launchpad/+bug/1448270 was the bug
[19:11] <wgrant> Great, thanks for pointing it out, fixing, and confirming :)
[19:12] <deej> No problem at all
[19:13] <deej> I'm glad you guys were around to fix it :)
[19:13] <wgrant> We were very nearly not!
[20:15] <ScottK> Nothing like planning on ~everyone traveling the day after release.
[20:15] <ScottK> What could go wrong.
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2015-04-24-#ubuntu-motu
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[07:18] <dholbach> good morning
[08:45] <Fantu> hi, any news about this with debdiff already posted? https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gvfs/+bug/517021
[11:46] <Laney> Fantu: It's in the right queue (http://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/sponsoring/), just a matter of waiting at this point
[18:07] <upsideout> Hello there I am trying to package up a qt application and and I keep on getting the error "Unknow moduels Qt : quick qml " Not sure what I might have to install thanks a bunch
[18:33] <upsideout> NVM got it
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ubuntu-chat
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2015-04-24-#lubuntu
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[00:16] <Kamilion> man, it'd be nice if people would stop leaving before I had a chance to notice and help.
[00:16] * ianorlin agrees
[00:16] <wxl> hey you two, this channel is for support!!!
[00:17] <Kamilion> I would have tried to support Ahmuck's missing battery icon, and talsamon's zswap issue, but they left.
[00:18] <wxl> i know, i was kidding
[00:18] <Kamilion> i am sort of amused at jay38478's password questions.
[00:18] <wxl> !patience | maybe we should respond to people immediately with
[00:18] <Kamilion> I hope he found the documentation.
[01:44] <talsamon> Kamilion, sorry a friend tell me, you have answered, i tested something
[01:45] <talsamon> it seems systemd has overwritten with his own partitions my swap, so I had no chance
[01:54] <Kamilion> oh
[01:54] <Kamilion> talsamon: o/
[01:56] <Kamilion> talsamon: so, there's two options you can go down; A: removing zswap, or B: swapoff & reformat the swap partition.
[01:57] <Kamilion> really depends if you wanna keep it or not
[02:00] <Kamilion> talsamon: so, there's two options you can go down; A: removing zswap, or B: swapoff & reformat the swap partition. Really depends on if you want to keep zswap or not.
[02:01] <talsamon> Kamilion, and now it was the daily disconnect from my provider, I download a live-cd and hope i could burn it with the tmpfs from systemd without swap and try to resize the partitions
[02:01] <Kamilion> grub2 can loopload from ISOs.
[02:02] <Kamilion> https://github.com/kamilion/kamikazi-deploy/blob/master/resources/buildscripts/xengrub.cfg Here are some examples.
[02:03] <Kamilion> the second menuentry is likely the one you would want to attempt to copy from
[02:04] <Kamilion> I stress however, it is an example, you will have to edit it slightly and remove some of the options that do not apply
[02:05] <talsamon> Kamilion, don't really know what zswap is , I never seen before, I think I had to accept it, its in the kernel
[02:06] <Kamilion> http://paste.ubuntu.com/10875643/
[02:06] <Kamilion> it is a kernel module; yes, but it is stored in an optional .deb that may be removed if wanted
[02:08] <Kamilion> the name of the package is 'zram-config'
[02:08] <Kamilion> if you apt-get purge zram-config, the problem should go away
[02:09] <Kamilion> zram/zswap is a method of compressing virtual memory
[02:09] <talsamon> kamillon no I have deinstalled this, but the warnings were still there , this is only the zram-config not zram
[02:09] <Kamilion> did you 'remove' or 'purge' ?
[02:09] <talsamon> purge
[02:10] <Kamilion> odd, that should have removed /lib/systemd/system/zram-config.service
[02:10] <Kamilion> oh, you said you updated, right?
[02:10] <talsamon> I upgraded from 14.10 few hours ago
[02:10] <Kamilion> from 14.10? Did you have a previous version before 14.10?
[02:11] <talsamon> yes
[02:11] <Kamilion> hmm
[02:12] <talsamon> I think I will try to resize the partitions
[02:12] <Kamilion> I'm unsure what you need to do to format the swap partition
[02:12] <Kamilion> I believe the process would be something like, use gnome-disks or gparted to right click and 'format as' type 'swap'
[02:13] <Kamilion> then opening a terminal, running 'blkid' to get the new identifier, and updating /etc/fstab to match
[02:13] <Kamilion> the latter part is more important, otherwise it will not be used unless you manually issue 'swapon /dev/sda5
[02:14] <Kamilion> let's see if I can track down the proper mkswap command for you
[02:15] <talsamon> ok, the way to resize it would not the problem, the problem is how much place I need , I can't be sure that systemd takes more space after this .. and if it works well
[02:15] <Kamilion> OH
[02:16] <Kamilion> OK, I have read the script /usr/bin/init-zram-swapping which is called by the systemd job
[02:17] <Kamilion> http://puu.sh/hoICR/0297029f46.jpg
[02:17] <Kamilion> I think THIS is the mkswap that is failing with the error message that it must be 40KB or larger
[02:17] <talsamon> Calculate memory to use for zram (1/2 of ram)
[02:18] <Kamilion> below that, where I highlight mkswap
[02:18] <Kamilion> I think that is the command causing your error
[02:18] <Kamilion> and we can see that is "mkswap /dev/zram${DEVNUMBER}"
[02:18] <Kamilion> thus, changing your sda5 swap will not make the error go
[02:19] <talsamon> seems logical, thanks
[02:19] <Kamilion> ok, so simple solution
[02:19] <Kamilion> apt-get install zram-config
[02:19] <Kamilion> apt-get purge zram-config
[02:19] <Kamilion> it is evident that some remnants of the package have remained
[02:20] <Kamilion> so put the package back and force it to remove it again, that has helped me a few times in the past.
[02:20] <Kamilion> this should also remove the /usr/bin/init-zram-swapping and /usr/bin/end-zram-swapping scripts
[02:21] <Kamilion> AFK ~10min
[02:22] <talsamon> ok, i try and reboot it, will back in a few minutes
[02:27] <Kamilion> any luck?
[02:32] <talsamon> Kamilion, don't no swap is not mounted
[02:32] <talsamon> '/know/no/
[02:33] <talsamon> now only one message from zram ureadahead:/usr/bin/init-zram-swapping: Datei oder Verzeichnis nicht gefunden (file not found)
[02:34] <holstein> so, you have swap?
[02:35] <talsamon> on 14.10 a had a swap on /dev/sda5
[02:35] <holstein> so, you cant mount swap now?
[02:35] <holstein> what errors do you get when you try mounting manually?
[02:36] <talsamon> swapon: /dev/sda5: swapon fehlgeschlagen: Das Gerät oder die Ressource ist belegt (device busy)
[02:36] <holstein> is it busy because its already mounted? and being used as swap?
[02:36] <talsamon> mount: mount point none does not exist
[02:36] <talsamon> mount|grep swap
[02:36] <talsamon> no output
[02:37] <holstein> talsamon: so, is it that the mount point you are specifying doesnt exist? or that its busy? or both?
[02:37] <talsamon> etc/fstab -->
[02:37] <talsamon> # swap was on /dev/sda5 during installation
[02:37] <talsamon> UUID=6350cb6c-6bd3-4154-b012-f57266eb77a1 none swap sw
[02:38] <holstein> sure, so is that still formatted as swap? if so, try mounting it manually
[02:38] <talsamon> if its busy I don't know, I believe the tmpfs-partition of systemd had captured it
[02:38] <holstein> i might just fire up a live iso, and look at my partition sructure
[02:38] <Kamilion> check 'free -h' to see if swap is non zero
[02:38] <talsamon> partitions
[02:39] <talsamon> Speicher: 2,5G 761M 1,7G 17M 53M 419M
[02:39] <talsamon> -/+ Puffer/Cache: 289M 2,2G
[02:39] <talsamon> Auslagerungsdatei: 2,5G 0B 2,5G
[02:39] <holstein> from the live iso, i can then reformat the swap, or, shrink something and make a new one
[02:39] <talsamon> Auslagerungsdatei = swap
[02:39] <Kamilion> looks like your swap is enabled.
[02:39] <holstein> yup.. looks like you may just be reading messages, which, are not a big deal
[02:39] <Kamilion> should be good to go once ureadahead figures things out
[02:40] <Kamilion> one or two reboots and that message from ureadahead should go away
[02:40] <Kamilion> if my understanding of how ureadahead works is accurate
[02:40] <holstein> even if it doesnt, it shouldnt matter
[02:40] <holstein> messages are just that.. not bad, necessarily
[02:40] <Kamilion> he was getting an error from zswap
[02:41] <Kamilion> [16:31:40] <talsamon> hallo I have upgraded some hours ago to 15.04 on my i686-pc. got this:init-zram-swapping[689]: mkswap: error: swap area needs to be at least 40 KiB, zram-config.service: main process exited, code=exited, status=255/n/a, Failed to start Initializes zram swaping
[02:41] <holstein> Kamilion: yeah, i read the scroll back before responding, but, thanks
[02:41] <Kamilion> k
[02:41] <Kamilion> it was pretty far back.
[02:41] <Kamilion> and sort of odd that he had to reinstall the package to purge it fully.
[02:42] <Kamilion> but looks like everything is operating within normal parameters now
[02:43] <talsamon> kamilion, you think its ok now?
[02:43] <Kamilion> aye, your swap is mounted, and empty.
[02:44] <holstein> you can check and see that its ok
[02:45] <talsamon> but I don't see it if in the mount output
[02:45] <talsamon> without if..
[02:45] <holstein> 22:39 < talsamon> Auslagerungsdatei: 2,5G 0B 2,5G
[02:45] <Kamilion> swap is not a normal type of mount
[02:45] <Kamilion> it does not show in mtab thus, mount will not list it
[02:46] <Kamilion> udisksctl status might
[02:46] <holstein> you can also use a live iso, boot it on your system, and run something like gparted, and see what is going on, and how things are mounted, and make sure things are as you want
[02:46] <Kamilion> but I think that just shows devices, not partitions
[02:46] <holstein> or, try gparted now
[02:46] <Kamilion> always annoys me slightly that gparted is removed when installation completes
[02:47] <holstein> its usually one of the first things i install
[02:48] <Kamilion> same.
[02:48] <talsamon> gparted listed the swap
[02:48] <Kamilion> when it's not around, i use gnome-disks, but it doesn't feel as comfortable to me, as a technical user.
[02:49] <Kamilion> if gnome-disks could resize partitions, that would probably move me over to useing it primarily.
[02:50] <holstein> i rarely resize anything from a running normal system, anyway
[02:50] <Kamilion> I resize USB drives often
[02:50] <Kamilion> internal drives, not so much
[02:51] <holstein> ive probably done it twice, in 20 years, or ever how long they have been making usb sticks/drives
[02:51] <Kamilion> but this is a topic for -devel not for support
[02:51] <holstein> Kamilion: there is an offtopic.. thats basically *-support for lubuntu
[02:51] <Kamilion> and so, I return to silence until the next person arrives.
[02:54] <dust> :)
[02:55] <dust> u did a nice support :)
[03:16] <talsamon> Kamilion, very thanks for your patient and fine explanation, very nice ;-))
[03:19] <Kamilion> talsamon: no problem; enjoy your desktop :D
[03:23] <talsamon> kamilion, I hope it will work, ... I am not really sure
[03:55] <talsamon> sigh rsync -v user@host:/any/path/to/anywhere /another/path rsync: connection unexpectedly closed rsync error: unexplained error (code 255) at io.c(226) - never before on any system
[03:55] <talsamon> just the normal rsync command....
[04:01] <talsamon> oh that was my fault
[04:07] <Kamilion> heh
[04:07] <Kamilion> Thanks for admitting that; I've gone on wild goose chases just cause someone was too afraid to admit fault
[04:17] <talsamon> ;-))
[06:20] <fil10_> hello guys. have question about lubuntu. can i ask you?
[11:29] <orakar> Hey guys! My terminal bell sound isn't working (trying to make irssi beep when I'm mentioned). Any idea how to turn it on other than just in the terminal's edit menu?
[12:06] <aladiah> iam upgrading from Lubuntu 14.10 to 15, during upgrading it ask me if i want to keep or replace the personalized file config /etc/mime.types whats is this ? i should rpelace ? what i will lose ?
[12:22] <choki> ianorlin: it is just a file which handles what application opens from which filetype.
[12:25] <aladiah> choki that message was for me ?
[12:26] <choki> aladiah: oh yeah
[12:26] <choki> sorry that
[12:26] <choki> wait
[12:27] <choki> aladiah: it is how i said, i would not much worry about that file. it just handles which application opens for example for files like .txt or .mp3 files
[12:27] <aladiah> iam trying to backup the file and i cant because console aspect is strange not normal . maybe because iam during installation . this dont work sudo cp /etc/mime.types /etc/mime.types.backup
[12:28] <aladiah> choki t the details it give me is this http://paste.ubuntu.com/10878176/
[12:28] <choki> aladiah: yeah it is kinda same for me.
[12:29] <aladiah> i should say to replace then ?
[12:29] <choki> aladiah: i would better backup to an usb stick
[12:29] <aladiah> where i can find it in graphic mode ?
[12:29] <choki> or even better i wouldnt care about this file :D
[12:29] <aladiah> in wich folder i can find it in grphic mode ?
[12:30] <aladiah> i cant see etc folder
[12:30] <choki> what do u mean? it is in the folder /etc
[12:30] <aladiah> i cant see it
[12:30] <choki> copy the path in and press enter
[12:30] <choki> on pcmanfm
[12:31] <choki> or just open pcmanfm with root like `sudo pcmanfm /etc`
[12:31] <aladiah> ok i see now
[12:35] <aladiah> thanks choki
[12:35] <choki> aladiah: :D
[12:35] <aladiah> choki: this ubuntu 15.10 got less erros doesnit ?
[12:36] <aladiah> 15.04
[12:36] <choki> aladiah: idk, i still go with 14.04 LTS because is there nothing really changed
[12:37] <choki> 15.04 is like 14.10 is like 14.04 is like 13.10 is like u know :D
[12:37] <aladiah> blutooth dont work in mine 14.10
[13:52] <Saikoro> Hello
[16:38] <zombiehoffa> doh. I upgraded and now my lxpanel that was previously at the bottom of my lower monitor is at the bottom of my top monitor. I change the edge geometry in panel prefences (what worked before) and it just moved the panel around the top display
[16:55] <zombiehoffa> is lxqt ready for prime time yet?
[19:32] <suncokret> will lxde will be developed in future?
[19:38] <genii> As far as we know.
[19:39] <suncokret> does LXDE still develope now?
[19:41] <wxl> suncokret: barely.
[19:41] <genii> suncokret: Of course. https://github.com/LXDE shows for instance the latest change was about 7 hours ago
[19:41] <wxl> i mean bug fixes and things are happening
[19:41] <wxl> but new features? vast, and sweeping changes? probably not
[19:42] <wxl> and honestly "lxde" on github is mostly lxqt
[19:42] <wxl> git.lxde.org is a better view of the project as a whole
[19:43] <wxl> additionally there are an increasingly limited number of developers for lxde. they're mostly focusing their attention on lxqt.
[19:44] <wxl> if it's not clear, though, the future is uncertain. there are no plans that i know of to remove lxde from the repos, even when lubuntu is full-on lxqt.
[19:45] <wxl> your latest lubuntu is lxde, suncokret, so enjoy it! :)
[19:45] <suncokret> and tell me, in future if lubuntu go to lxqt, and we use lxde from repos, will we can use all programs
[19:45] <suncokret> ?
[19:46] <wxl> that's a strange question. if you mean with only gtk and not qt libraries, no. if we use qupzilla for a browser, you'll need qt libraries to use it. of course, you can always use something else.
[19:47] <wxl> the thing you need to realize is that each flavor is a collection of components that are meant to and have been tested to work together.
[19:47] <wxl> you can change things if you want, and each package is supported individually, but it's a little less clear how they will work together.
[19:48] <wxl> you can get support for such potential bugs, but it may be had to replicate the bug without a clea understanding of the makeu of your system.
[19:48] <wxl> for example, we recently got a report from an ubuntu user who is using lxde but with lxdm. i don't know any flavor using lxdm, so it makes it difficult to know how to replicate and fix
[19:49] <wxl> does that make sense, suncokret ?
[19:49] <wxl> if it's an consolation to you, lubuntu's goal is still being as lightweight as possible. currently, i think lxqt has a bit more overhead than lxde but it's a little early in development, really, and we will work to make the change to make it equally if not better than lxde at resource usage.
[19:51] <wxl> i mean we're the only flavor left with an alternate installer. the reason for this is because we expect low-end machines to be our targets. even though it has tons of difficulties for us, it's important that we continue to offer it as part of our commitment to being lightweight/low-resource
[19:51] <wxl> that being said, i'm going to go back to reading. need anything else?
[19:52] <wxl> suncokret: ^
[19:52] * wxl disappears
[19:53] <suncokret> i understand... now also some programs need qt libraries to work, and with this libraries they work in lxde... so in future, we will can use that programs in lxde too?
[19:54] <ianorlin> suncokret: yes they will work but they could make things heavier
[19:55] <suncokret> and gtk aplications will work?
[19:55] <ianorlin> yes
[19:58] <suncokret> did you have problems to install some applications from synaptic?
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2024-05-13T22:11:13.406227
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2015-04-24-#ubuntu-pl
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[09:21] <Ashiren> 1st
[17:34] <Ashiren> 2nd
[17:38] <haruto> Hej dałem update do gnome 3.16 w gnomeubuntu i mam przy sudo apt-get install -t ubuntu-gnome-desktop monit o braku powiązań i jak daje je do instalacji to tak dalej pyta znów o inne powiązania to takie błędne koło da radę to pobrać czy jeszcze nie
[17:42] <Ashiren> chyba nie
[18:30] <isthisreallife> cześc
[18:30] <isthisreallife> zyje ten kanal?:>
[18:31] <isthisreallife> ma kttos ochote pomoc mi z upgrade do 15.04?
[18:33] <Ashiren> :O
[18:33] <Ashiren> ae szybko
[18:34] <isthisreallife> http://pastie.org/10112063#
[18:34] <isthisreallife> to dostaje jak chce zrobic upgrade
[18:35] <Ashiren> a na czym teraz siedzisz
[18:35] <isthisreallife> 14.04
[18:35] <isthisreallife> chce miec 15.05
[18:35] <isthisreallife> 15.04*
[18:35] <Ashiren> czy 14.04 nie jest LTS?
[18:36] <isthisreallife> a to nie jest tak ze wszystkie .04 to lts?
[18:36] <isthisreallife> nie wiem szczerze mowiac
[18:36] <Ashiren> co drugie .04
[18:37] <Ashiren> nastepne bedzie 16.04
[18:37] <TheNumb> isthisreallife: a jak włączasz aktualizację?
[18:37] <isthisreallife> sudo do-release-upgrade
[18:37] <TheNumb> na desktopie?
[18:37] <isthisreallife> no w terminalu wpisuje sudo do-release-upgrade
[18:37] <Ashiren> a moze sudo update-manager -d
[18:38] <TheNumb> isthisreallife: ale po cholerę?
[18:38] <TheNumb> przecież od tego jest update-manager
[18:38] <TheNumb> a nie do-release-upgrade którego głównie używa się na serwerach
[18:38] <isthisreallife> tak ale manager mowi ze jest up to date
[18:38] <TheNumb> musisz tylko przełączyć z trybu "LTS-only".
[18:38] <TheNumb> A czytałeś dokumentację w ogóle?
[18:39] <isthisreallife> /etc/update-manager/release-upgrades
[18:39] <isthisreallife> tutaj zmieniles z lts na normal
[18:39] <TheNumb> po co ręcznie?
[18:39] <TheNumb> Przecież update-manager ma ustawienia
[18:39] <TheNumb> Tam w zakładce "aktualizacje" masz na samym dole listę rozwijaną
[18:39] <TheNumb> ...
[18:41] <Ashiren> pewnei przyzwyczajenia z gentoo
[18:41] <TheNumb> tak
[18:41] <TheNumb> w archu nie ma takich problemów, nie?
[18:41] <Ashiren> eeyup
[18:41] <TheNumb> Chyba czas zainstalować
[18:58] <kboratynski> isthisreallife: apt-get -V dist-upgrade
[18:58] <kboratynski> Z proptami.
[19:41] <isthisreallife> dostaje cos takiego Some third party entries in your sources.list were disabled. You can re-enable them after the upgrade with the 'software-properties' tool or your package manager.
[19:41] <isthisreallife> jak robie upgrade przez managera
[19:41] <TheNumb> isthisreallife: normalne.
[19:42] <isthisreallife> jak to moge naprawic
[19:42] <isthisreallife> zaznaczam ze jestem poczatkujacym uzytkownikiem linuxa
[19:42] <TheNumb> isthisreallife: przy aktualizacji wszystkie zewnętrzne repozytoria są wyłączane żeby nie było konfliktów.
[19:42] <TheNumb> isthisreallife: po aktualizacji możesz je spowrotem zaznaczyć w menedżerze aktualizacji.
[19:43] <isthisreallife> czyli teraz wchodze w software&updates -> other software
[19:43] <TheNumb> isthisreallife: pewnie masz zainstalowane jakieś PPA, google chrome i tym podobne.
[19:43] <isthisreallife> i usuwam odhaczenia
[19:43] <isthisreallife> wszystkich
[19:43] <isthisreallife> ?
[19:44] <TheNumb> po aktualizacji musisz je zaznaczyć
[19:44] <TheNumb> ale dopiero *po*
[19:44] <isthisreallife> ok sprawdze to
[19:55] <isthisreallife> TheNumb usunelem odhaczenie we wszystkich i przy upgrade wyskoczylo okienko z informacja: http://pastie.org/10112239
[19:55] <TheNumb> coś upsułeś robiąc do-releas-upgrade
[19:55] <TheNumb> :<
[19:55] <TheNumb> sudo apt-get -f install spróbuj
[19:55] <isthisreallife> hmm raczej watpie
[19:56] <isthisreallife> mialem mega problemy przy upgrade do 14
[19:56] <isthisreallife> kiedys;/
[19:56] <isthisreallife> 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 20 not upgraded.
[19:57] <TheNumb> isthisreallife: a masz na pewno wszystkie other sources odchaczone?
[19:57] <TheNumb> odhaczone*
[19:58] <isthisreallife> tak we wszystkich usunelem odhaczenie
[19:58] <TheNumb> sudo apt-get update
[19:58] <TheNumb> i jeszcze raz włącz update-manager
[19:58] <isthisreallife> ok
[20:01] <isthisreallife> the software on this computer is up to date, klikam upgrade
[20:01] <isthisreallife> i niestety to samo
[20:01] <isthisreallife> Could not calculate the upgrade
[20:01] <TheNumb> ech
[20:02] <TheNumb> zobacz co masz w /etc/sources.lists.d/
[20:02] <TheNumb> wrzuć na wklej.org
[20:03] <isthisreallife> hmm
[20:03] <isthisreallife> to na pewno w /etc?
[20:03] <TheNumb> /etc/apt/sources.lists.d/
[20:03] <TheNumb> ;p
[20:03] <TheNumb> źle wklepałem
[20:04] * drathir w ostatecznosci zawsze aptitude probowal... dosc znosnie z zaleznosciami sie rozprwial...
[20:04] <isthisreallife> http://wklej.org/id/1696106/
[20:05] <drathir> isthisreallife: a o ignore czasem nie pluje przy update? w sensie jakies klucze itp z ciekawosci?
[20:06] <isthisreallife> https://dpaste.de/DvS2
[20:10] <isthisreallife> hmm chyba dosc ciezka sytuacja?
[20:10] <TheNumb> isthisreallife: update-manager -d spróbuj
[20:15] <isthisreallife> upgrading ubuntu to version 14.10
[20:15] <isthisreallife> i uwaga
[20:15] <isthisreallife> Could not calculate the upgrade
[20:15] <isthisreallife> ;<
[20:18] <TheNumb> lipa
[20:18] <drathir> df -h?
[20:18] <drathir> ;p
[20:20] <drathir> moze miejsca brakuje, z takich szalonych pomyslow...
[20:20] <TheNumb> ech to ubuntu
[20:21] <isthisreallife> hmm na pewno mam z 10gb wolnego
[20:22] <TheNumb> df -h zobacz
[20:24] <drathir> isthisreallife: zalezy od konfiguracji, bo /home nie musi sie rownac /...
[20:25] <TheNumb> isthisreallife: wklej może df -h na wklej.org
[20:25] <drathir> czasamii cos moze tez ubic /tmp
[20:28] <isthisreallife> http://wklej.org/id/1696120/
[20:38] <isthisreallife> :>
[20:43] <isthisreallife> hmm no nic chyba bede musial zostac przy 14
[20:49] <drathir> tak swoja droga to czysta instalka w debianowych zawsze najlepsza...
[20:51] <TheNumb> we wszystkich nie-rolling
[20:51] <isthisreallife> ktore to nie-rolling? i co to oznacza?
[20:54] <TheNumb> isthisreallife: jest kilka modeli rozwoju linuksa.
[20:54] <TheNumb> isthisreallife: poczytaj sobie o rolling release.
[20:55] <isthisreallife> ok
[21:20] <kalee> sa tu jakiej madre glowy? ile wynikow da 8-znakowa wariacja z powtorzeniami skladajaca sie z angielskich liter alfabetu?
[21:20] <DaZ> 26**8 ? xD
[21:22] <kalee> DaZ: bylem w licku b.dobry z matmy ale za duzo jointow od tego czasu, help :)
[21:27] <kalee> kurwa 208827064576
[21:27] <kalee> ile TB bedzie mial taki slownik? :D
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2024-05-13T22:11:13.422195
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"license": "Public Domain",
"authors": [
"Ashiren",
"DaZ",
"TheNumb",
"drathir",
"haruto",
"isthisreallife",
"kalee",
"kboratynski"
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"channel": "#ubuntu-pl"
}
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2015-04-24-#ubuntu-tr
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[17:51] <Hellori> makinasinda nmap kurulu olan var mi
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ubuntu-chat
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2024-05-13T22:11:13.423821
| 2015-04-24T00:00:00 |
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"license": "Public Domain",
"authors": [
"Hellori"
],
"url": "https://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2015/04/24/%23ubuntu-tr.txt",
"channel": "#ubuntu-tr"
}
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2015-04-24-#lubuntu-devel
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[03:57] <Kamilion> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/VividVervert/ReleaseNotes "Ververt" ? Can someone fix the lubuntu release notes -> ubuntu release notes link?
[03:59] <Unit193> !itsawiki
[04:00] <Kamilion> I can?
[04:00] <Kamilion> That's... kind of stupid. What prevents it from getting destroyed by bots and spammers then?
[04:01] <Kamilion> *sigh* and the stupid ubuntu one SSO service is humped for me again.
[04:02] <Kamilion> Okay, page is immutable
[04:02] <Kamilion> that's what I thought.
[04:02] <Kamilion> *sigh*
[04:04] <Kamilion> ah, now it freaking works
[04:05] <Kamilion> okay, fixed it.
[04:05] <Kamilion> woo.
[04:05] <Kamilion> okay, well, that certainly explains why there's no bots and spammers
[04:05] <Kamilion> holy SMOKES that was hard to log in
[04:07] <Unit193> You did it in under 10 minutes, so that was pretty fast.
[04:07] <Kamilion> it should have been 2.5 seconds.
[04:08] <Kamilion> not 'why won't wiki.ubuntu.com respond when the SSO tries to redirect to it?'
[04:08] <Kamilion> and then just as mysteriously log me in, at least a minute after my last try
[04:09] <Kamilion> *sigh* infrastructure. Can't live without it, can't strangle it either.
[09:20] <silverlion> o/ folk
[09:20] * silverlion needs the md5sum of the 15.04 release
[09:23] <silverlion> disregard ... found the link myself
[18:21] <silverlion> aloha folks
[18:27] <wxl> gsilva: expect a testimonital from me shortly
[18:28] <gsilva> why's that, wxl ? I thought you couldn't do it
[18:28] <gsilva> hi, silverlion
[18:28] <silverlion> gsilva: expect one from me too ;)
[18:28] <wxl> i've gotten word from the board that a testimonial should not be considered a conflict of interest, as long as our relationship is kept in the open when it comes time to vote
[18:28] <gsilva> I see
[18:28] <wxl> apparently there is a precedent for this
[18:29] * wxl is on the bus right now
[18:29] <gsilva> well, belkinsa said she could but she has to request permission to the rest of the board/commission
[18:29] <gsilva> As I said to her, if it is too troublesome for you guys, it is okay :)
[18:29] <silverlion> wxl: short update: I'll be prepresenting lubuntu in november in a major conference of opensource
[18:29] <wxl> from what hggdh said that's not true
[18:30] <silverlion> together with the german LoCo Team
[18:30] <wxl> excellent, silverlion
[18:30] <wxl> what help do you need from the team?
[18:30] * wxl loves his new folding bluetooth keyboard!
[18:31] <silverlion> I'll have everything that I need ^^
[18:31] <silverlion> An old laptop with Lubuntu on it to show off
[18:31] <wxl> ok sounds good. if you do need anything, let me know!
[18:31] <silverlion> wxl: willco
[18:32] * wxl took the raspberry pi2 to linux fest northwest, but has no display to show it off on! oops!
[18:32] <wxl> i'll just "borrow" the hotel tv XD
[18:32] <silverlion> *gg*
[18:32] <silverlion> the week after next one I'll also be available for uos
[18:32] <wxl> oh awesome
[18:33] <wxl> i think we should also schedule a planning session
[18:33] <silverlion> yeah but I've already promised to help out as a moderator
[18:33] <wxl> or at least some time where ALL of the admins can get together and talk about what's going on
[18:33] <ianorlin> wxl +1 on planning session
[18:33] <wxl> oh
[18:33] <gsilva> wxl, wet or dry lubes for your bike chain rings?
[18:33] <wxl> yeah balloons tried to get me to run the show and tell track and i had to say no
[18:33] <gsilva> That's good thing, silverlion :)
[18:34] <wxl> gsilva: wet. you'll apply it more but it works better, though it does pick up more dirt and grime.
[18:34] <wxl> i need to figure out how we're going to do this demo
[18:34] <wxl> i'd like to put one of the devs in charge of that rather than me
[18:34] <wxl> i'm wearing my lubuntu qa shirt to linux fest north west
[18:34] <wxl> btw soon i will have infos about how to get your own
[18:37] <wxl> well i'm going to write gsilva a testimonial
[18:37] <gsilva> haha, thank you, wxl :)
[18:37] <wxl> i'm on the phone so hilight me if you need me
[18:37] <gsilva> silverlion, you can write one too if you can :)
[18:37] <wxl> it'll beee :(
[18:37] <wxl> oops
[18:37] <wxl> beep :)
[18:38] <wxl> the only thing i don't like about this wee little keyboard is the size of the number keys and the other keys on the top row
[18:38] <wxl> ok off
[19:22] <wxl> done gsilva. let me know if there's anything you want tweaked
[19:25] <wxl> hopefully phillw will give a testimonial, too!
[19:25] <wxl> now that the membership board has at least two lubuntu members it would seem his testimonial should be given equal weight :(
[19:25] <wxl> argh stupid keyboard
[19:26] <wxl> i mean :)
[19:26] * wxl neeeds to figure out how to get .XCompose working on android
[19:35] <silverlion> ok folks, I've got a bunch of files to sweep through in order to prep them for tomorrow's office hours
[19:35] <silverlion> that's why I'm closing this now
[19:35] <silverlion> gn8
[23:22] <gsilva> back
[23:22] <gsilva> thank you, wxl, very kind of you :)
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2015-04-24-#ubuntu+1
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[03:20] <Bluefoxicy> okay how the heck do I turn the thing back to right alt = altgr
[08:17] <tijnix> goodmorning all
[08:17] <tijnix> almost weekend!
[08:21] <lordievader> Good morning.
[09:19] <elfy> hi lordievader
[09:20] <lordievader> Hey elfy, how are you?
[09:20] <elfy> rejoicing in the fact the weekend started for me :)
[09:21] <lordievader> Nice nice
[09:21] <tijnix> few hours to go for me
[10:34] <BluesKaj> Hiyas all
[10:34] <elfy> hi BluesKaj
[10:35] <BluesKaj> Hi elfy
[10:36] <elfy> all ready for the next one :D
[10:37] <BluesKaj> yup , aready setup, have a dedicated HDD for it
[10:46] <BluesKaj> how about you ?
[10:49] <elfy> partition is ready yep
[11:13] <BluesKaj> wonder when the chainloader will be available
[13:02] <sjoshi> !15.04
[13:05] <sjoshi> Is 15.04 release?
[13:05] <sjoshi> released*
[13:06] <k1l> sjoshi: yes
[13:07] <sjoshi> k1l: ok thanks!
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ubuntu-chat
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2024-05-13T22:11:13.434199
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"BluesKaj",
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2015-04-24-#maas
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[08:29] <mup> Bug #1447783 was opened: 1.8b3 Failed deployment/release timeout <landscape> <power> <MAAS:New> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1447783>
[08:47] <mup> Bug #1447961 was opened: MAAS it can not install in ubuntu 15.04 server <MAAS:New> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1447961>
[08:59] <mup> Bug #1423613 changed: [0-day sru] maas needs to support systemd for Ubuntu >= 15.04 <hs-arm64> <verification-done> <MAAS:Fix Committed by andreserl> <maas (Ubuntu):Fix Released by andreserl> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1423613>
[08:59] <mup> Bug #1447961 changed: MAAS it can not install in ubuntu 15.04 server <MAAS:New> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1447961>
[08:59] <mup> Bug #1446878 changed: maas django app won't start "ImportError: No module named apt_pkg" <verification-done> <MAAS:Fix Committed by mpontillo> <MAAS 1.7:In Progress by andreserl> <maas (Ubuntu):Fix Released by andreserl> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1446878>
[08:59] <mup> Bug #1447573 changed: [0-day SRU] maas needs to use python-django16 instead of 1.7 <verification-done> <maas (Ubuntu):Fix Released> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1447573>
[09:11] <mup> Bug #1447961 was opened: MAAS it can not install in ubuntu 15.04 server <MAAS:New> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1447961>
[09:11] <mup> Bug #1423613 was opened: [0-day sru] maas needs to support systemd for Ubuntu >= 15.04 <hs-arm64> <verification-done> <MAAS:Fix Committed by andreserl> <maas (Ubuntu):Fix Released by andreserl> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1423613>
[09:11] <mup> Bug #1446878 was opened: maas django app won't start "ImportError: No module named apt_pkg" <verification-done> <MAAS:Fix Committed by mpontillo> <MAAS 1.7:In Progress by andreserl> <maas (Ubuntu):Fix Released by andreserl> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1446878>
[09:11] <mup> Bug #1447573 was opened: [0-day SRU] maas needs to use python-django16 instead of 1.7 <verification-done> <maas (Ubuntu):Fix Released> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1447573>
[09:17] <mup> Bug #1447961 changed: MAAS it can not install in ubuntu 15.04 server <MAAS:New> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1447961>
[09:18] <mup> Bug #1423613 changed: [0-day sru] maas needs to support systemd for Ubuntu >= 15.04 <hs-arm64> <verification-done> <MAAS:Fix Committed by andreserl> <maas (Ubuntu):Fix Released by andreserl> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1423613>
[09:18] <mup> Bug #1446878 changed: maas django app won't start "ImportError: No module named apt_pkg" <verification-done> <MAAS:Fix Committed by mpontillo> <MAAS 1.7:In Progress by andreserl> <maas (Ubuntu):Fix Released by andreserl> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1446878>
[09:18] <mup> Bug #1447573 changed: [0-day SRU] maas needs to use python-django16 instead of 1.7 <verification-done> <maas (Ubuntu):Fix Released> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1447573>
[15:39] <mup> Bug #1293701 changed: Starting nodes en mass without ssh keys gives bad error message <ui> <MAAS:Triaged> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1293701>
[15:39] <mup> Bug #1367511 changed: XML and YAML output should be line numbered. <ui> <MAAS:Triaged> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1367511>
[15:39] <mup> Bug #1374070 changed: It's possible to remove the name from a node and MAAS won't supply a new one <confusing-ui> <ui> <MAAS:Invalid> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1374070>
[15:39] <mup> Bug #1375273 changed: 'Allocated', 'deploying' and 'deployed' nodes are all represented as 'allocated' on the frontpage dashboard. <node-lifecycle> <ui> <MAAS:Invalid> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1375273>
[17:17] <bdx> can anyone depict a way to commission and deploy other releases of ubuntu than trusty
[17:17] <bdx> ?
[19:04] <mup> Bug #1447783 changed: 1.8b3 Failed deployment/release timeout <landscape> <power> <MAAS:New> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1447783>
[22:46] <mup> Bug #1448338 was opened: unable to select power type or add a node using firefox <MAAS:Confirmed> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1448338>
[22:52] <mup> Bug #1448338 changed: unable to select power type or add a node using firefox <MAAS:Confirmed> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1448338>
[23:01] <mup> Bug #1448338 was opened: unable to select power type or add a node using firefox <MAAS:Incomplete> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1448338>
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2015-04-24-#ubuntu-fi
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[07:39] <elias_a> Totuuden hetki: julkaisuversion paketit asennettu ja bootti edessä... :)
[07:47] <elias_a> Käynnistyi ongelmitta ja vieläpä nopeasti. :)
[07:49] <Mikaela> ja nyt on systemd
[07:49] <Mikaela> minulla tosin ollut pidemmän aikaa
[07:53] <Mirv> mielestäni aika viime tingassa bootti nopeutui takaisin aiemmalle tasolle, oli tossa vielä huhtikuussa jossain kohtaa niin että laahasi 10 sekuntia ylimääräistä
[07:54] <Mirv> ja muitakin varsinaisia ongelmia katsottaessa voi sanoa että systemd:n kanssa tuli varmaan vähäsen kiire, mutta suurimmat ongelmat rakottu
[07:54] <Mirv> +t
[07:57] <gildean> mulla kaatuu aina välillä systemd-logind, eli koneelle ei pääse kirjautumaan
[17:58] <pesasa> http://viikonvalo.fi/Phile
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ubuntu-chat
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2024-05-13T22:11:13.444311
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"Mikaela",
"Mirv",
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"channel": "#ubuntu-fi"
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2015-04-24-#ubuntu-unity
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[10:04] <larsu> Saviq: did you ask me about gsettings overrides based on XDG_CURRENT_DESKTOP at some point?
[10:04] <larsu> somebody did and I try to remember who it was
[10:04] * larsu is planning work for next cycle
[10:24] <Saviq> larsu, not sure what X_C_D is (well, I can imagine what it is) so no :)
[10:26] <tsdgeos> Saviq: are you sure about the double tt ? the internet is thorn between screenshoter and screenshotter
[10:26] <tsdgeos> did i fall rom the internet again?
[10:27] <tsdgeos> ah no, seems i'm still here
[10:31] <Saviq> tsdgeos, no, not sure ;)
[10:31] <Saviq> tsdgeos, maybe it should simply be "shooter"? :D
[10:32] * Saviq still prefers "grabber"
[10:35] <tsdgeos> Saviq: but we have that one already
[10:35] <Saviq> tsdgeos, we have *Screen*Grabber, not *Session*Grabber
[10:36] <tsdgeos> oh ok
[10:36] <tsdgeos> so i'll do SessionGrabber
[10:36] <Saviq> yup
[11:08] <bgd> Hi everyone! I have a synaptics with 3-finger-swipe capability (as shown by xinput list-props) and I wonder how I can activate that in Unity, so that e.g. I can change the workspace with it?
[11:20] <Saviq> bgd, try having a read through https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Multitouch/TouchpadSupport maybe that will help
[12:36] <dandrader> mzanetti, all your comments have been addressed here https://code.launchpad.net/~unity-team/unity8/shellRotation/+merge/256497
[13:24] <kgunn> ChrisTownsend: hey, was playing with unity8 desktop on a second machine i have here...first thing i tried was launching the browser
[13:25] <ChrisTownsend> kgunn: IT craps out, right?
[13:25] <kgunn> i see the app window loading for a split second then it goes away
[13:25] <kgunn> ok...so you see it to
[13:25] <ChrisTownsend> kgunn: Known issue, lemme find the bug...
[13:25] <kgunn> thanks...i was trying to look for bugs
[13:26] <ChrisTownsend> kgunn: https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1429135
[13:26] <ChrisTownsend> kgunn: Seems to be a fix, but it hasn't hit the archive yet????
[13:27] <kgunn> huh...
[13:27] <kgunn> yeah, that's weird
[13:27] <kgunn> unless....maybe it's only in the overlay ppa ?
[13:27] <ChrisTownsend> It is weird. Not sure what's taking so long.
[13:30] <mzanetti> dandrader, ack. will test it again, on a tablet
[13:33] <dandrader> oh oh... I foresee new issues :)
[14:01] <dandrader> are you guys getting "<Unknown File>: QML UCDeprecatedTheme: Theme.palette is deprecated. Use ThemeSettings instead." spammed on the console when running qml tests?
[14:01] <dandrader> like "make tryShell"
[14:06] <tsdgeos> no, but i did not enable "newest PPA"
[14:06] <tsdgeos> maybe the sdk guys changed something in there?
[14:07] <tsdgeos> this is what i get http://paste.ubuntu.com/10878840/
[14:07] <tsdgeos> do you have the nwest PPA?
[14:07] <Saviq> yeah they did
[14:08] <Saviq> the whole theming system is redone
[14:09] <tsdgeos> Saviq: i think i addressed all your comments in the sessiongrabber branch
[14:16] <mzanetti> dandrader, I've updated my device but still see those things. I assume the ppa isn't up to date?
[14:17] <dandrader> mzanetti, no, it's not
[14:17] <mzanetti> ack
[14:18] <dandrader> mzanetti, triggered a new build now
[14:27] <Saviq> tsdgeos, tx, will check
[14:28] <dandrader> mzanetti, https://code.launchpad.net/~dandrader/unity8/ddaImprovements/+merge/255896 is also missing your feedback
[14:44] <kgunn> ChrisTownsend: i'm sitting in a meeting and oxide 1.7 just landed....so me thinks that bug must be something else ?
[14:47] <ChrisTownsend> kgunn: Hmm, my vivid system has oxide 1.5.5 installed and no new updates.
[14:48] <kgunn> yeah...that's weird me too
[14:48] <ChrisTownsend> kgunn: So until the archive gets updated, we're stuck.
[14:51] <kgunn> hmm, but it's not in overlay...
[14:51] * kgunn goes to investigate
[14:51] <ChrisTownsend> kgunn: What is "overlay"?
[14:52] <kgunn> oh wait...it just appeard
[14:52] <Saviq> ChrisTownsend, https://launchpad.net/~ci-train-ppa-service/+archive/ubuntu/stable-phone-overlay
[14:52] <dandrader> mzanetti, and https://code.launchpad.net/~dandrader/unity8/floatingFlickable/+merge/256668 as well
[14:53] <kgunn> where stuff can land when the regular archive is froze
[14:53] <kgunn> ChrisTownsend: ^
[14:53] <ChrisTownsend> Oh, ok, cool.
[14:53] <ChrisTownsend> I should add that PPA then for the latest and greatest:)
[14:53] <kgunn> yep
[14:54] <ChrisTownsend> kgunn: Ok, the oxide package is pending w/ the arm64 build still running.
[14:57] <mzanetti> dandrader, on the floatingflickable one there's 2 comments you missed, I think
[14:58] <dandrader> mzanetti, ahh, right!
[15:18] <dandrader> tsdgeos, do you know if we still need this? http://paste.ubuntu.com/10879284/
[15:18] <tsdgeos> dandrader: don't know tbh
[15:19] <tsdgeos> can try removing it an checking what happens i guess :D
[15:19] <tsdgeos> dandrader: you do or want me to?
[15:20] <dandrader> tsdgeos, just wandering if I should copy this over to a new test or not. So I guess I won't
[15:20] <dandrader> s/wandering/wondering
[15:20] <tsdgeos> dandrader: leave it out, if it passes, good :D
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ubuntu-chat
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2024-05-13T22:11:13.449185
| 2015-04-24T00:00:00 |
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2015-04-24-#ubuntustudio
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[08:20] <viki22> hi I am new to ubuntustudio.could anyone help me on multibooting .I have already installed windows 7,Ubunut 14.04 but now I also want to install ubuntustudio 14.04 LTS release(Tahyr trust) .I have read the known issues of installlng ubuntu studio 14.04 which mentions that in some computer it might delete all other OSs.is it true?if not can anybody guide me how to install ubunut studio with multiboot capabilities
[08:31] <viki22> hello can anybody guide how to install ubuntu studio 14.04 with other two OSs pre-installed(ubuntu 14.04,windows 7)
[13:54] <br0nson> Hi I just installed 14.04.1 from dvd but I'm unable to connect with my RTL8168
[13:54] <br0nson> maybe networkmanager isn't configured properly?
[13:56] <br0nson> I didn't see you were pushing so many updates
[14:57] <holstein> br0nson: you were pushing so many updates?
[14:58] <holstein> br0nson: ubuntustudio is an official flavor of ubuntu, so, we get the same updates that mainstream ubuntu gets.. all patches, etc
[14:58] <holstein> !wifi
[14:58] <holstein> ^ feel free and troubleshoot just like you are using ubuntu or xubuntu, and try those channels if its slow here
[14:58] <br0nson> 8168 is Ethernet
[14:59] <holstein> cool.. same deal, then
[14:59] <holstein> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1022411 ,the later posts, will be relevant
[14:59] <holstein> https://unixblogger.wordpress.com/2011/10/18/the-pain-of-an-realtek-rtl8111rtl8168-ethernet-card/ for example
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ubuntu-chat
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2024-05-13T22:11:13.452585
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2015-04-24-#ubuntu-us-pa
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[09:17] <rmg51> Morning
[10:11] <JonathanD> Morning.
[10:33] <rmg51> o/
[12:14] <teddy-dbear> Morning peoples, critters and everything else
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ubuntu-chat
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2024-05-13T22:11:13.453639
| 2015-04-24T00:00:00 |
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2015-04-24-#ubuntu-news
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[15:58] <PaulW2U> might not be around too much this weekend so made an early start on summaries
[15:59] <PaulW2U> leaving 20+ for others though :)
[17:13] <pleia2> I'll do my best at rounding up the troops, enjoy your weekend :)
[18:48] * ahoneybun did 3 so far
[22:51] <pleia2> thanks ahoneybun
[22:51] <pleia2> sent off the email to the rest of the summary writers
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ubuntu-chat
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2024-05-13T22:11:13.454626
| 2015-04-24T00:00:00 |
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"PaulW2U",
"ahoneybun",
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2015-04-24-#ubuntu-gr
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[11:16] <Euaki> Νέα από ubuntusecurity: USN-2571-1: Firefox vulnerability <http://www.ubuntu.com/usn/usn-2571-1/>
[12:42] <mitsospap_> καλησπέρα
[12:42] <mitsospap_> http://www.unixmen.com/howto-install-ati-display-driver-in-ubuntu/
[12:42] <mitsospap_> μπαινει αυτό σε ubuntu ltsp?
[12:42] <mitsospap_> και να εχω merika client με ΑΤι;
[18:40] <LOKATZIS> γεια σας , θα ηθελα να μου πειτε πως μπορω να κανω αναβαθμιση απο 14.10 σε 15.04
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ubuntu-chat
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2024-05-13T22:11:13.459002
| 2015-04-24T00:00:00 |
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"Euaki",
"LOKATZIS",
"mitsospap_"
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"channel": "#ubuntu-gr"
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2015-04-24-#ubuntu-community-team
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[07:18] <dholbach> good morning
[07:46] <davidcalle> morning dholbach
[07:51] <dholbach> salut davidcalle
[07:51] <dpm> morning all!
[07:51] <dholbach> hey dpm
[07:51] <davidcalle> hey dpm
[07:51] <dpm> hi guys
[07:53] <dpm> davidcalle, dholbach, just a heads up if you see changes: I did some fixes to the webcam snappy guide last night after trying it on my bbb - it seems asac was using a locally-installed app rather than the one from the store, so the instructions didn't quite work
[07:53] <dholbach> dpm, good work - thanks a lot
[07:53] <elfy> morning everybods
[07:53] <dpm> well, you guys did all the work!
[07:53] <dpm> morning elfy
[07:54] <davidcalle> dpm, yes, instructions were supposed to be updates once the package was available, thanks for taking care of it!
[07:54] <davidcalle> updated*
[07:54] <dpm> ah, cool
[15:01] <balloons> mhall119, what's up with the IS ticket to get AP docs onto d.u.c?
[15:11] <mhall119> balloons: http://162.213.32.72/api/autopilot/python/1.5.0/ is staging
[15:12] <mhall119> data is importing fine, the image uploading to swift failed due to missing proxy env vars which I've fixed in r107 and sent back to webops to update staging
[15:12] <mhall119> balloons: with luck that'll make staging 100% done and monday we can go to production
[15:19] <balloons> mhall119, ack, keep me updated. fingers crossed
[15:19] <balloons> have a good flight back, whenever that is :-)
[15:37] <dholbach> Have a fantastic weekend everyone and enjoy the release celebrations!
[15:37] <dholbach> I'll be back on Tuesday.
[15:37] * dholbach hugs everyone!
[15:37] <mhall119> balloons: I fly out tomorrow AM, will be back to work on Monday morning
[15:38] * belkinsa hugs dholbach back
[15:38] <mhall119> dholbach: have a good one
[15:38] <balloons> hugs dholbach !
[16:52] <dpm> warming up the engines for UOS http://davidplanella.org/announcing-the-next-ubuntu-online-summit, help spreading the word appreciated!
[17:45] <dpm> have a good weekend everyone, and safe flights mhall119
[18:31] <silverlion> good evening everybody
[18:34] <silverlion> I've got a question regarding upcoming UOS. Is there a chance to have a look behind the scenes to get a feeling how much work it is to get things done there?
[19:43] <knome> elfy, hear here!
[19:43] <knome> http://pad.ubuntu.com/community-is-blockers
[19:43] <knome> i'm interested in the bottom of the page stuff...
[19:43] <knome> regarding that, is https://rt.ubuntu.com/Ticket/Display.html?id=20596 still really a valid ticket, or can it be closed?
[19:44] <elfy> 20596?
[19:45] <elfy> that can be closed
[19:45] <knome> ok, thanks
[19:45] <knome> elfy, i'm basically marking the slowness stuff from 2011-2012 as "to be closed" too, since they are... old
[19:45] <elfy> mmm
[19:45] <knome> they will need new correspondence anyway
[19:46] <knome> or if you rather keep those open.. that's fine as well :)
[19:46] <elfy> forum ones's we'll be cc'd to - or should be, if I see one marked as this should be closed and it shouldn't I'll comment :)
[19:47] <knome> elfy, ok, great ;)
[19:47] <knome> elfy, what about 20761?
[19:48] <knome> elfy, and 20776, which is supposed to be fixed?
[19:48] <elfy> 20761 that's not done with
[19:48] <knome> ok
[19:48] <elfy> other's have taken precedence
[19:49] <elfy> 761 should be ok
[19:49] <knome> halfway through the general queue D:
[19:49] <knome> wait, that too? :)
[19:50] <elfy> 19790 is not going to happen
[19:51] <knome> i'm updating the pad, feel free to fix the descriptions if you see fit
[19:51] <silverlion> evening elfy
[19:51] <silverlion> o/ knome
[19:51] <elfy> hi silverlion
[19:51] <pleia2> thanks for your help, elfy
[19:52] <elfy> pleia2: welcome :)
[19:52] <knome> yep, thank you both elfy and pleia2 :)
[19:53] <knome> elfy, is 21156 still something you wish to happen?
[19:53] <elfy> not sure off the top of my head
[19:54] <elfy> yes - we still get issues with that
[19:54] <knome> well read it you silly :)
[19:54] <knome> ok, i'll not list that then
[19:54] <pleia2> any that are annoying to be outstanding we can add to the top of the doc
[19:55] <knome> ywp
[19:55] <elfy> ho ho ho ;)
[19:55] <knome> yep too
[19:55] <pleia2> then we can prioritize them from there (the SSO one is actually causing us to lose contributors, so that's bad)
[19:55] <knome> pleia2, you mean any that aren't listed in the bottom of the wiki? :P
[19:56] <pleia2> :)
[19:56] <elfy> 25642 is just being ignored
[19:57] * pleia2 goes to grab some lunch
[19:57] <knome> bon appetit
[19:57] <silverlion> pleia2: have a good one ;)
[19:58] <knome> elfy, 22008 good or still open?
[19:59] <elfy> can't tell without logging into the control panel and trying - then I'd need to let it run ...
[19:59] <elfy> leave it open
[20:00] <knome> oki
[20:00] <knome> 22165?
[20:00] <elfy> close
[20:00] <knome> not that there are many forums tickets...
[20:00] <elfy> well - if we could do stuff there wouldn't need to be ;)
[20:00] <knome> ;)
[20:01] <knome> elfy, 23300?
[20:02] <elfy> add that to the this is really annoying pile
[20:02] <elfy> and 24227 should be added to the if SSO on the forum is about security - why do moderators have to have their passwords set by someone else pile
[20:04] <elfy> anything newer that's open - should be open
[20:04] <knome> :)
[20:04] <knome> oki
[20:21] <knome> just figured out i'm not really interested at the loco queue...
[20:24] <elfy> :)
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[05:59] <BotaniCar> Jutro
[06:08] <vileni> jutro
[07:31] <Mmike> mlj
[07:35] <Hrki> bok ekipo
[07:35] <Hrki> imam jedno cudno pitanje
[07:35] <Hrki> tu me jedna radio stanica umara sa obavijestima jer sam neaktivan
[07:35] <Hrki> jel postoji neki program koji ce micati mis automatski svakih pola sta? :D
[07:36] <BotaniCar> Da. Ima i onih koji ce ti klikati po "radio stranici" i skupljati XP :D
[07:36] <BotaniCar> http://cdn.lifebuzz.com/images/60689/lifebuzz-f38b93bdf0cadceb9b56e3e9de185d84-limit_2000.jpg
[07:42] <SilverSpace> jutro
[07:46] <Hrki> no BotaniCar pa kaj nema nist kaj glumi aktivnost
[07:46] <Hrki> kak uopce radiostanica skuzi ako si neaktivan ?
[07:46] <Hrki> java skripta ?
[07:57] <jelly> radio stanica? ili njena web stranica?
[08:04] <dodobas> yutro
[08:04] <dodobas> jel imo' tko iskustva s vipnet fiksnim internetom ...
[08:04] <dodobas> s obzirom da su kupili bnet i metronet... ?
[08:25] <SilverSpace> kod frendice radi
[08:25] <SilverSpace> doduse neznam kojom brzinom
[08:28] <nicols> jutro!
[08:31] <Mmike> NJIKLOS!
[08:31] <Mmike> dodobas: jesam, ja
[08:31] <Mmike> dodobas: ne
[08:31] <Mmike> dodobas: to je kabl, i lose radi. Ako ti je jedini cilj skidanje torrenta i ne zanima te da ti sve drugo stoji, onda i ima smisla, jer je ok omjer cijena/brzina
[08:31] <Mmike> al' dzaba to kad ja nemrem u SSHju tipkat ak saljem malo veci mail
[08:37] <dodobas> Mmike: a mozda ovisi o lokaciji...
[08:37] <dodobas> jer ja prije 10 godina nisam nimao nikakvih problem s bnetom...
[08:37] <dodobas> Mmike: a koji provider onda ?
[08:38] <Mmike> dodobas: ja doma imao bnet, uzas
[08:38] <Mmike> stara ima vipnet, isti kufer k'o bnet
[08:38] <Mmike> stovise, to je jedna te ista stvar
[08:38] <Mmike> malo se popravilo kad su mi donjeli cisco modem
[08:38] <Mmike> tj, dosta se popravilo
[08:38] <Mmike> i dalje steka ssh kad saljem/primam, al' bar mogu virtualke na mrezi pokretat da nisu iza nata
[08:39] <vileni> meni nista ne steka, samo moram sve ograniciti da nikad ne dodje do limita :)
[08:40] <dodobas> Mmike: ok ali koji provider ... onda
[08:42] <dodobas> t-com ... skup... sto jos ostaje... naravno da ovisi o lokaciji ali ...
[08:45] <Mmike> dodobas: lokacija?
[08:45] <Mmike> vileni: kak wget i email ogranicis? :)
[08:46] <Mmike> dodobas: bilo tko s ADSLom, ili ak mozes optiku....l :)
[08:46] <Mmike> ja bi amis toplo preporucio
[08:50] <jelly> Mmike: wondershaper
[08:51] <jelly> Mmike: al sa svojim ADSL-om, a ne bitstreamom ili nakedom
[08:53] <SilverSpace> dodobas: kaj ti nisi kod kvatrica
[08:57] <dodobas> SilverSpace: ma gledam za drugu lokaciju... Međimurska... kod zapadnog kolodvora
[08:59] <SilverSpace> aa
[09:00] <Mmike> dodobas: nema tamo FTTH :/
[09:01] <Mmike> dodobas: vrbani, knezija, sopot, siget, utrina, travno, slobostina, trnsko, dubec
[09:01] <Mmike> i jos neke poljanice
[09:01] <Mmike> nemam pojma di je to
[09:04] <dodobas> Mmike: a nema... a placat t-comu ... po onim cijenma ?
[09:04] <Mmike> pa amis ima dsl skoro svukud
[09:04] <Mmike> ima i onaj AVDHSDSLDAv2 :)
[09:05] <Mmike> jelly: ti paketaris povremeno, jelde?
[09:05] <jelly> ne bas
[09:05] <Mmike> jelly: koja je, generlano, procedura kad zelim buildat noviju verziju pakera Kenj koji ovisi o libKenj koji je novije verzije od onog sto ima u repou?
[09:06] <jelly> backportas i libkenj
[09:06] <Mmike> zbuildam libKenj, napravim .deb, instaliram ga
[09:06] <jelly> tj. libkenj-dev
[09:06] <Mmike> al' pbuilder/sbuild ce koristi stari libkenj-dev kad rade chroot
[09:06] <Mmike> kak da im velim da koriste moj libkenj-dev
[09:06] <jelly> moras ga stavit u repo dostupan pbuilderu
[09:06] <Mmike> mislim, povecam ja u debian/control verziju libkenja
[09:06] <Mmike> aha, pa konj
[09:07] <jelly> ne, kenj
[09:07] <Mmike> napravim lokalni repo, turnem unutra libkenj, dodam ga u sources.list, i voziiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii
[09:07] <Mmike> konj/kenj :)
[09:07] <Mmike> jelly: thnx :)
[09:12] <BotaniCar> Kak je lepo biti sam u uredu, mozes se smijati konjima i kenjima bez puno objasnjavanja :)
[09:14] <Mmike> eto, sad imamo i novi corosync i novi libqb0 i sad cemo to lijepo instalirati i vidjeti kako to fino radi
[09:14] <BotaniCar> s/fino radi/vise-manje radi/g :)
[09:14] <jelly> koj coro koj synco
[09:15] <dodobas> Mmike: archlinux :)
[09:15] <BotaniCar> ni coro ni kopo !
[09:36] <dodobas> hmm, i iskon je povoljan ...
[09:36] <dodobas> amis... ne bas... jer za poslovne korisnike imaju cijene ... 1 Mbps 0,81 kn - 50.000,00 kn 400,00 kn - 6.000,00 kn :)
[09:41] <jelly> dodobas: ak si u "narancastoj zoni" iskon je ok. A ovo drugo mislim da mijesas kruske i stalne veze.
[09:47] <nicols> oj
[09:48] <Mmike> dodobas: kaj ti to pricas
[09:48] <Mmike> 50k kn? :)
[09:49] <Mmike> dodobas: to gledas stalnu vezu?
[09:49] <Mmike> dodobas: amis ti je 200 kuna mjesecno, ja tol'ko placam, za 12mbit down i megabit up
[09:49] <Mmike> dsl
[09:49] <Mmike> a optika bibila jos jeftinija
[09:50] <Mmike> KAD BI JU NUDILI U MOM KVARTU
[09:51] <dodobas> Mmike: ti nisi poslovni korisnik ... ne pravas racun na firmu ...
[09:53] <Mmike> neg kaj sam?
[09:53] <Mmike> neg na kaj pravim?
[09:53] <Mmike> na papirno automato! :0
[09:53] <Mmike> dodobas: to su cijene stalnih linkova, to ne zelis/ne trebas :)
[09:54] <Mmike> dodobas: http://amis.hr/poslovni_triujednom.php
[09:54] <jelly> dodobas: ti si SMB a ne firma koja treba stalnu vezu
[09:55] <Mmike> ftth 50/50 = 299 kuna, jos dobis i nessto telke
[09:55] <dodobas> jes jes... ali koje ti ime pise na racunu...
[09:55] <dodobas> MMike - adresa
[09:55] <Mmike> ne
[09:55] <jelly> Siba d.o.o.
[09:55] <Mmike> ime firme
[09:55] <dodobas> ili MMike firma - aresa
[09:55] <Mmike> SuperFirma d.o.o.
[09:56] <Mmike> http://amis.hr/poslovni_stalni_pristup.php <- dodobas, to je stalna veza, to ne zelis :)
[09:56] <dodobas> to ne zelim...
[09:56] <jelly> cudi me da guraju trio za firmu, koj ce ti vrag TV za firmu :-)
[09:56] <dodobas> ali isto tako ne zelim 3u1 ... zelim 1 inerent
[09:56] <Mmike> nemas u amisu samo internet
[09:57] <Mmike> imas 2u1 ili 3u1
[09:57] <Mmike> oho!
[09:57] <Mmike> imas po novom
[09:57] <dodobas> imas .. stalnu vezu :)
[09:57] <Mmike> ne
[09:57] <Mmike> adsl
[09:58] <Mmike> kakva fakin stalna veza :)
[09:58] <Mmike> dodobas: ja imam 2u1 amis, telefon + internet, nemam telku
[09:58] <Mmike> na firmu
[09:58] <Mmike> R1 racun dobijem
[09:58] <Mmike> koji platim
[09:58] <jelly> posto?
[09:58] <Mmike> 199 + PDV
[09:58] <Mmike> 12/1
[09:58] <jelly> to je skroz ok
[09:58] <Mmike> yup
[09:58] <Mmike> i fakat radi jako dobro
[09:58] <Mmike> i kad ne radi ekipa s druge strane je smislena
[09:59] <Mmike> ne dobijem 'jeste probali ugasit pa upalit'
[09:59] <Mmike> i znaju da imam doma linksis pa je njihov modem u bridz modu
[09:59] <Mmike> i ne smeta ih kaj imam linksis
[09:59] <Mmike> bnet mi je redovno govorio da 'ne podrzavaju dodatnu terminalnu opremu korisnika'
[09:59] <jelly> al da imas tp-link bi vristali?
[09:59] <Mmike> i da su problemi sigurno zbog linksisa
[09:59] <Mmike> jelly: :D
[10:00] * jelly uzeo tp-link sa 5GHz da se proba spojit sa susjedom... radi jos gore nego 2.4
[10:00] <SilverSpace> https://ls80.github.io/script.openelec.rpi.config/
[10:00] <SilverSpace> ha
[10:00] <jelly> tj. ne radi kroz nosivi zid i dva kata
[10:01] <jelly> al super radi unutar stana i sa malom snagom, sto mi nije trebalo
[10:01] <Mmike> ja moram nesh slozit za na moru
[10:01] <Mmike> za apartmane
[10:01] <dodobas> Mmike: kabel :)
[10:01] <Mmike> vileni: u biti sam o tome htio jucer pricat s tobom :)
[10:01] <Mmike> dodobas: da, to ima u sobama
[10:01] <Mmike> al' mora bit i wajrlozo
[10:02] <jelly> Mmike: aptmane iznajmljujes ili unajmljujes?
[10:02] <SilverSpace> jel ovo cudo doslo kod nas u trgovine http://www.linksys.com/us/support-product/?pid=01t80000003KdJ7AAK
[10:02] <Mmike> jelly: iz, rekoa bih
[10:02] <dodobas> Mmike: ne mora... sta turist zna...
[10:03] <jelly> SilverSpace: velis tri antene nisu dost, tek sa 4 je prava stvar?
[10:03] <SilverSpace> http://www.conrad.hr/?websale8=conrad-hr&ref=Nabava&subref=article/1166508&pi=1166508
[10:03] <SilverSpace> jelly: lol
[10:04] <SilverSpace> jelly: ak nemas pet jebiga onda
[10:04] <SilverSpace> peta tek busi zid
[10:05] <jelly> SilverSpace: moj tp-link ima 3 vanjske za 5GHz i 3 nutarnje za 2.4GHz, sto daje teoretskih 1200Mbps
[10:05] <jelly> ovaj na 1900Mbps onda mora imat 4 vanjske i 4 nutarnje
[10:06] <SilverSpace> dva i pol soma kuna je preskupo
[10:06] <jelly> i 600kn je isto skupo
[10:10] <SilverSpace> 400$ je na ebay
[10:12] <SilverSpace> http://is.gd/b9Uy2o
[10:12] <SilverSpace> hm francuska
[10:13] <SilverSpace> 1kk
[10:15] <SilverSpace> frendici moram poslati mail svako malo dode u hr
[10:17] <Mmike> http://jebo.me/pas/9@raw
[10:17] <Mmike> tako to radi OpenERP, tj Odoo
[10:17] <Mmike> u 2 sata napravio oko 3 i pol gige logova, jer svkai ovaj kveri ima izmedju 30k i 200k!
[10:23] <dodobas> Mmike: very nice, it works :)
[10:37] <jelly> covjek se pita koliko hardver stvarno kosta, kad vendor hoce dati 70% popusta ak im se napomene da gledamo konkurenciju
[10:45] <Mmike> jelly: :D
[10:45] <jelly> mislim po toj cijeni bi si kupio par servera za doma
[10:52] <SilverSpace> nemres bolivit sad kad nema f1 radi stream n 1080 bez problema
[10:59] <jelly> jer niko ne gleda :-)
[10:59] <SilverSpace> :)
[11:02] <Mmike> jelly: ciji stream?
[11:02] <Mmike> erm
[11:03] <Mmike> SilverSpace: ciji stream?
[11:15] <vileni> jelly: afaik, 5ghz je uzasan za bilokakve prepreke, 2.4 je bolji u tome
[11:16] <vileni> Mmike: nista, plati jos jednu cocktu pa ti objasnim svoje vidjenje wifija za ugostitelje :)
[11:17] <Mmike> vileni: osh danas opet? :)
[11:17] <vileni> autom sam :)
[11:19] <Mmike> jos bolje :)
[11:19] <vileni> Mmike: pa i nije bas, moram zenu doma odvesti s posla a onda mi se neda u grad vracati :)
[11:20] <Mmike> meh :)
[11:22] <BotaniCar> di, osim u /etc/exim4/conf.d/main/03_exim4-config_tlsoptions mogu eximu definirati di mu je crt fajl ?
[11:25] <dodobas> BotaniCar: u /etc/mailman ...
[11:25] <jelly> ha, neko koristi exim
[11:27] <BotaniCar> jok, ni nemam /etc/mailman ; naime kaj , javlja mi mail klijent kod spajanja da mi je certifikat istekao, kad pogledam detalje zaista je tako, kad provjerim certifikat definiran u 03_exim4-config_tlsoptions, taj je valjan ; imam exim.crt_bkp koji odgovara ovom isteklom po datumu .
[11:28] <BotaniCar> Jedino kaj mi pada na pamet da jos napravim je da velim eximu da se rekonfigurira, u nadi da bu reloadal sve kak treba (probao sam restartati servis )
[11:28] <BotaniCar> A, ne bi reconfig lupil ako ne moram, stra' me
[11:42] <BotaniCar> glup glup glup !! courierov certifikat je ekspajro :D
[11:44] <vileni> ti certifikati bi trebali biti valjda prva stvar sta se gleda nakon toga da li servis uopce radi :)
[11:44] <BotaniCar> o cem ti , vileni ? si opce pogledal kaj me muci ? :D
[11:45] <BotaniCar> mucilo, jel :D
[11:45] <vileni> certifikat!
[11:45] <vileni> :D
[12:01] <SilverSpace> Mmike: sky
[12:05] <weshmashian> mornin'
[12:06] <SilverSpace> uh sad sam prosetal po kruh i tak mi se sad spava
[12:06] <SilverSpace> sa stolca cu past
[12:06] <BotaniCar> SilverSpace: jesi sad prosetal, ili ti se sad spava , koje je ? :D
[12:06] <weshmashian> 'da' :)
[12:06] <BotaniCar> mornin' mashinerijo !
[12:07] <SilverSpace> BotaniCar: mislio sam da ce me setanja razbudit
[12:07] <SilverSpace> ali ne
[12:07] <SilverSpace> jos gore
[12:07] <dodobas> hehe ... http://tiffzhang.com/startup
[12:08] <SilverSpace> kak /homeprekopirati da mi sve ostane isto
[12:08] <SilverSpace> kak /home prekopirati da mi sve ostane isto
[12:08] <dodobas> rsync
[12:09] <SilverSpace> ostanu tu i sve dozvole
[12:09] <SilverSpace> na datotekama
[12:09] <dodobas> da ako koristis '-a' archive...
[12:10] <BotaniCar> nekaj kao : sudo rsync -aXS --exclude='/*/.gvfs' /home/. /novi/home/.
[12:10] <SilverSpace> thx bum googlao
[12:11] <SilverSpace> gledam da /home vise ne stavljam na zasebnu particiju
[12:11] <SilverSpace> uvijek si malo ostavim az /
[12:13] <BotaniCar> slozi si LVM pa samo srotaj diskove kak ti zatreba
[12:13] <SilverSpace> BotaniCar: to nikada nisam radio
[12:13] <BotaniCar> Fino , onda ti ne bu dosadno
[12:13] <SilverSpace> lol
[12:14] <BotaniCar> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuDesktopLVM
[12:15] <SilverSpace> vec vidim da cu pozaliti
[12:15] <BotaniCar> neces neces
[12:15] <BotaniCar> LVM je super
[12:33] <vileni> lvm je genijalan, samo sto svaki put se moram podsjecati procedure za resize
[12:47] <SilverSpace> vileni: :) onda ja necu LVM
[12:49] <dodobas> SilverSpace: naravno da hoces... pa ubuntu phone se vrti na LVMu
[12:49] * BotaniCar se ne podsjeca, sve procedure koje sam jednom napravio su *negdje* dokumentirane ! :)
[12:49] <BotaniCar> Ja samo dangubim trazeci pravi dokument :D
[12:49] <SilverSpace> ee BotaniCar jel znas di :)
[12:49] <SilverSpace> i kod mene isto
[12:50] <SilverSpace> gnote je pun
[12:50] <Mmike> vileni: jel' i na laotptu imas lVM? :)
[12:51] <dodobas> Mmike: znam da mene nepitas ali...naracno da imas
[12:51] <Mmike> cemu? :)
[12:51] <SilverSpace> uopce se necu zajebavati stavim 5G vise i ko ga hebe
[12:52] <dodobas> Mmike: jer ne smeta
[12:52] <SilverSpace> rucak
[12:52] <dodobas> a nekad je zgodan...
[12:52] <Mmike> na laptopu?
[12:53] <SilverSpace> jel LVM bolji za formulu 1 ?
[12:53] <SilverSpace> :)
[12:53] <BotaniCar> SilverSpace: ta, ipak smo nekakva tamo firma, imam dokjument menadzment sistem s indeksiranjem ! Samo u njega upisem "drek" i nadje mi sva sranja :)
[12:54] <dodobas> Mmike: pa e... trebam privremeno 50G za neku virtualku ... dignem, napravim, obirsam ...
[12:54] <Mmike> dodobas: otkud 50G?
[12:55] <dodobas> pa zato sto nisam iskoristo cijeli PV
[12:55] <Mmike> pa zasto nisi?
[12:55] <Mmike> znam, da mosh LVMjat :)
[12:55] <Mmike> al' kuzis kak je besmisleno to?
[12:55] <dodobas> jer nikad ne znas koliko ce ti trebat prostora...
[12:55] <Mmike> pa imas kolko imas
[12:55] <Mmike> nemas vise
[12:55] <Mmike> 200GB disk, 200GB prostora
[12:56] <dodobas> Mmike: da i ?
[12:56] <BotaniCar> Mmike: prestane biti besmisleno, na primjer, kad imas 25 FSova s kojima se igras ; brze sformatireas LVM patriciju od prave
[12:56] <Mmike> BotaniCar: ha? :)
[12:56] <Mmike> BotaniCar: kak to mislis?
[12:56] <BotaniCar> HA !
[12:57] <BotaniCar> Tocno kak sam napisao :) Em ju brze napravi, em mi je brze otipkati to :)
[12:57] <Mmike> dodobas: kaj da i? imas 200 GB disk, zakaj bi ga particionirao?
[12:57] <Mmike> BotaniCar: 25 FSova?
[12:57] <dodobas> meni je LVM ultra zgodan ... kad sam radio s bazom koju je bilo sporo rekreirat..
[12:57] <BotaniCar> file systema
[12:57] <Mmike> BotaniCar: di imas 25 FSova?
[12:57] <dodobas> pa onda leop napravis snapshot ... testiras
[12:57] <dodobas> obrises snapshot ...
[12:57] <BotaniCar> evo, na serveru A3 :) OK; nije 25 :)
[12:57] <dodobas> i tako u krug ...
[12:57] <BotaniCar> Joj, da, snapshoti <3
[12:57] <Mmike> BotaniCar: a ha, laptop server. ok :)
[12:58] <dodobas> a da svaki put cekam 4h da se importa pun K podataka
[12:58] <dodobas> ili recimo...
[12:58] <dodobas> zelim konzistentno stanje backupa...
[12:58] <Mmike> ma ok
[12:58] <BotaniCar> dodobas: ti trebas brze diskove :)
[12:58] <Mmike> znam ja da mosh smislit ti izgovora :)
[12:58] <dodobas> napravim snapshot .. automatski... napravi se backup...
[12:59] <Mmike> bottom line je da je na laptopu to nepotrebno
[12:59] <dodobas> a ne poslije da je u pol writea negdje nesto prelomljeno
[12:59] * Mmike ima 200GB particiju
[12:59] <Mmike> i ima sve gore
[12:59] <Mmike> i ne desi mu se da na /home nema mjesta a na /var da ima
[12:59] <Mmike> ili obrnuto
[12:59] <dodobas> BotaniCar: custom import, cpu bound ...
[12:59] <dodobas> pa ne desava se ...
[12:59] <Mmike> snapshoti? overlayfs, ako bas treba
[12:59] <BotaniCar> o0o0o overlayfs ? /me ode guglat
[13:00] <dodobas> Mmike: da da ... imas li magicni oneliner ?
[13:00] <Mmike> zgodno je ovo kaj je jelly spomenuo neki dan
[13:00] <Mmike> virtualka, lvm
[13:00] <Mmike> pa onda kad resajzas virtuaku da omsh resajzat sve bez reboota
[13:00] <Mmike> al' ono
[13:00] <Mmike> nemas to na laptopu :D
[13:00] <BotaniCar> Mmike: a kaj napravis kad ti 200GB patricija postane tijesna ? Migriras na drugi disk ? Meni je brze extendati LVM ( i ujedno primarni pravi razlog zakaj ga opce trosim )
[13:00] <Mmike> a i ak imas lvm je U virtualki :)
[13:00] <Mmike> BotaniCar: kud da extendam? :) u zrak pored laptopa? :)
[13:00] <BotaniCar> aha, laptopi, pardon
[13:01] <BotaniCar> Mmike: AFAIK mozes extendati i na USB disk, ako si bas bleso :D
[13:01] <dodobas> Mmike: na externi disk :)
[13:01] <dodobas> yes
[13:01] <BotaniCar> ( ili imas USB3) :D
[13:01] <dodobas> Mmike: odheb...
[13:03] <Mmike> -rw-r----- 1 postgres adm 53M Apr 24 14:34 postgresql-9.1-main.log.lrzip
[13:03] <Mmike> ovaj log je inace velik 17GB :)
[13:03] <Mmike> TO je kompresija, a ne ti :)
[13:05] <BotaniCar> Issati, p'kak?
[13:10] <SilverSpace> http://www.bug.hr/vijesti/njemacki-sud-presudio-adblock-plus-legalan/142417.aspx
[13:17] <SilverSpace> pljugin za maxtv2go u kodi
[13:18] <SilverSpace> http://is.gd/sOnURn
[13:19] <SilverSpace> https://www.linux.com/news/software/applications/799449-can-ubuntu-click-address-linus-torvalds-binary-problems/
[13:21] <jelly> /o\
[13:22] <jelly> rjesenje za imati up-to-date distre sa zakrpanim rupama i novim softverom NIJE bundlati libraryje
[13:22] <SilverSpace> kaj ovo znaci http://www.webupd8.org/2015/04/ubuntu-desktop-to-eventually-switch-to.html
[13:22] <jelly> nego placati ljude koji ce krpati i izdavati na vrijeme
[13:23] <Mmike> He then talked about problems with Debian systems, “…you don’t make binaries for Debian stable because Debian stable has libraries that are so old that anything that was built in the last century doesn’t work.”
[13:23] <jelly> idiot (a ne kazem to samo zato sto koristim debian ;-)
[13:27] <vileni> Mmike: na laptopu imam ntfs :P
[13:28] <vileni> taman mi pobjeze nicols, a htio pitati jel imaju kakvi referral program da skupljam bodove
[13:33] <BotaniCar> kaj bi referal ? Cega se ima ? :)
[13:33] <vileni> serveri :)
[13:35] <BotaniCar> bit ce interesantno drzati sustav s tak zbundlanim aplikacijama up-to-date za danasnje devve koji si poinstaliraju kaj god zgodno vide na netu
[13:37] <BotaniCar> Intresantno as in "necu ni pokusavati" :)
[13:45] <Mmike> danas mi je godina dana u novoj firmi
[13:45] <Mmike> isteko mi gnupg kljuc :D
[13:45] <BotaniCar> opet ? :)
[13:45] <BotaniCar> Daj manje mjenjaj firme :)
[13:45] <BotaniCar> Tko ce ti sve to na linkedinu pocestitat' :F
[13:45] <BotaniCar> Mmike: idem s Sanelom do Bobe danas ( 19h ) , da se ti slucajno pojavis ? D:
[13:46] <Mmike> BotaniCar: dvojbeno, zenin bratic je u zg pa idemo s njim na pivo + zena ide danas van pa cuvam dete
[13:47] <BotaniCar> Pa popelaj i malog ! :)
[13:47] <BotaniCar> Jednom mora s tobom pocet' po pivama hodat' :D
[14:04] <frainfreeze> ok... https://www.google.co.uk/maps/@33.5138029,73.0641383,15z
[14:43] <Mmike> http://www.estadiocroata.cl/
[14:43] <Mmike> chile
[14:59] <SilverSpace> joj
[15:38] <SilverSpace> http://www.vecernji.hr/techno/android-koji-urinira-po-logou-applea-pojavio-se-na-google-mapsu-1002117
[15:39] <SilverSpace> pisu i nasi tulipani
[15:55] <SilverSpace> jebote nism pojma imao koliko je uz nil naselja https://www.google.co.uk/maps/@29.4447391,31.2307397,8050m/data=!3m1!1e3
[15:57] <SilverSpace> sve vise naselja a sve manje zemlje obradive
[15:57] <SilverSpace> ne bu to dobro
[15:57] <SilverSpace> i u nilu sve manje vode
[15:57] <SilverSpace> nema vise poplava
[16:26] <SilverSpace> http://danas.net.hr/svijet/totalno-pobjesnio-i-ubio-racunalo-bilo-je-velicanstveno
[16:28] <SilverSpace> i ja ponekad to zelim napraviti
[16:31] <SilverSpace> lol jebena drzava
[16:31] <SilverSpace> http://www.jutarnji.hr/za-pet-pljacki-u-kojima-su-ukrali-devet-tisuca-kuna-bivsi-partneri-dobili-12-5-godina-zatvora/1337057/
[16:32] <SilverSpace> za milione ides guliti krumpir
[17:08] <SilverSpace> koje ludilo instalirao openwrt u virtual box i dodao jos jedan disk i transmission slozio u njemu
[17:09] <SilverSpace> i sve upravljam iz chrome
[17:43] <nicols> helou
[17:43] <nicols> jel ima još netko na kde5?
[17:44] <SilverSpace> nicols: to si jucer upgredao
[17:45] <SilverSpace> i kak to radi
[17:52] <nicols> imam jedan problemčić :)
[17:52] <nicols> neke ikone su zbrljane
[17:53] <nicols> nije strašno, ali malo živcira
[18:00] <dodobas> nisam vec dugo probao KDE
[18:00] <dodobas> zadnji dojam je bio ... kockasto
[18:06] <Vlado9A3CY> dobra vecer
[18:14] <SilverSpace> dodobas: tak i ja godinamaaaaa
[18:15] <SilverSpace> prije ubuntu suse os :)
[18:16] <SilverSpace> bas je fora torentirati u openwrt u virtual box :)
[18:39] <nicols> ?
[18:39] <nicols> :)
[18:49] <Mmike> nicols, ja cu cekat 16.04, mislim :)
[18:49] <nicols> sad sam opravijo kernel
[18:50] <nicols> iz nekog razloga tu se nešto potrgalo
[18:50] <nicols> neki metapaket štatigajaznam
[18:50] <nicols> ostalo na starom kernelu
[18:50] <nicols> sad radi :)
[18:50] <nicols> ali me i dalje zahebavaju ikone
[18:51] <Mmike> ja sma sad probo kernel iz vivida
[18:51] <Mmike> 3.19 nesto
[18:51] <Mmike> ne radi mi USB na njem D
[18:51] <Mmike> navodno su popravili transaction pizdarization u btrfsu u 3.19
[18:51] <Mmike> pa sam tijo probat
[18:51] <Mmike> al' dzaba
[18:53] <vileni> al je saren kubuntu
[18:56] <nicols> kde5 je manje šaren od kde4
[18:56] <vileni> nicols: to da :)
[18:56] <vileni> zasad ljepse izgleda instalacija
[18:57] <vileni> ja cu na svojem stroju ionako imati i3wm pa mi svejedno :)
[19:03] <nicols> lijep je i3wm
[19:04] <nicols> Mmike: sigurno neki obsolitan hardver :-P meni sve radi :)
[19:16] <vileni> pa lijepo ovo izgleda
[19:25] <Mmike> vileni, kojo?
[19:38] <vileni> Mmike: kubuntu
[19:39] <Mmike> vileni, instalirao?
[19:39] <vileni> iako, dok ne probam na pravom hardveru
[19:39] <vileni> u virtualboxu
[19:39] <vileni> ljepsi mi od proslih
[19:39] <vileni> ali ono, za pravi rad, i3 ftw :)
[19:40] <vileni> ovo bi curi instalirao, ali ionako prigovara na broj racunala u stanu, jos da joj poduplam OS izludila bi :)
[19:42] <vileni> zasto je tako tesko naci itx/mATX kuciste za 4/5 hdd-a a da ne kosta 100eur barem
[19:48] <vileni> Mmike: evo disciplina za tebe :) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pD5AkVtFbA8
[19:48] <datase> YouTube: Osv DS - 0:00:44 - 10 views
[19:50] <Mmike> tko bi se snaso sa svim tim cunjevima
[19:50] <vileni> Mmike: i to je prva od 5 razlicitih voznji
[19:51] <vileni> izmedju svake vidis 30ak ljudi kako hodaju po poligonu praveci se da voze
[19:51] <vileni> i sudaraju se jedni s drugima, hodaju unazad, okrecu se, masu rukama :)
[19:51] <vileni> jedan je na stakama obilazio poligon, vozio sa nogom u gipsu
[20:12] <Mmike> melita: MELITA!
[20:44] <melita> Mmike: wasupp
[20:46] <Mmike> melita, eo, nist, kompajlira se
[20:46] <Mmike> kod tebe?
[20:55] <SilverSpace> bemti stare laptopove
[20:55] <SilverSpace> u smece sa njima
[20:57] <SilverSpace> jebo wifi kartice koje ne mozes iskljuciti ni u biosu
[20:58] <SilverSpace> ubuntu ne zna preskocit wifi konfiguraciju kod instalacije
[20:58] <SilverSpace> kak
[21:21] <melita> Mmike: radi se :)
[22:20] <MmikeT> SilverSpace: ga mogu roknit?
[23:10] <SilverSpace> Mmike: moze :)
[23:18] <SilverSpace> ln
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"jelly",
"melita",
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"vileni",
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2015-04-24-#ubuntu-doc
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[18:51] <pleia2> btw, sent another followup regarding the convoluted process new contributors need to go through to log into the help.u.c./community wiki, last update was in february where balloons said it would be made a priority but that "is not a quick fix."
[18:52] * balloons just looked at that RT again
[18:52] <balloons> recently to remind myself
[18:52] <knome> and any other community service.
[18:52] <pleia2> we appreciate that
[18:52] <pleia2> yeah, loco.ubuntu.com suffers from this too
[18:52] <balloons> well I wish I could actually fix it for you..
[18:52] * balloons ducks back out
[18:53] <pleia2> I have to tell people to contact me directly to RSVP to events if they can't log in to RSVP to the site, that's typically about half the attendees
[19:01] <pmatulis> pleia2: i'm not up-to-date on this problem. is it documented somewhere?
[19:05] <pleia2> pmatulis: pretty much the fact that we have to have this page: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WikiGuide/Registration
[19:05] <pleia2> pmatulis: very few users find it, or have the patience to go through it, so they just give up and leave without contributing
[19:05] <pleia2> some end up coming in here to ask, and it usually takes 20-30 minutes of debugging to finally get them logged in
[19:06] <pleia2> it all came about because IS merged Launchpad SSO with Ubuntu SSO without understanding the implications for our services
[19:06] <pmatulis> interesting
[19:06] <pleia2> it's been over a year since I submitted the ticket
[19:07] <pmatulis> it's the first time i hear of it but i do recall seeing some posts on ubuntu-doc about it
[19:07] * pleia2 nods
[19:07] <pmatulis> pleia2: so no bug to track then, that's unfortunate
[19:08] <pleia2> pmatulis: the RT ticket is 24297
[19:08] <pleia2> I can dig up the doc team bug report, but IS only pays attention to tickets so there isn't any info there
[19:10] <pmatulis> pleia2: i cannot access that RT. maybe i'm not looking in the right place
[19:10] <knome> pmatulis, rt.ubuntu.com
[19:10] <pleia2> pmatulis: you should be able to log in with your Ubuntu SSO at rt.ubuntu.com
[19:10] <pleia2> from there, go to https://rt.ubuntu.com/Ticket/Display.html?id=24297
[19:11] <pmatulis> got it
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[05:15] <hapster> hi
[05:16] <hapster> just read from somewhere that ubuntu will eventually move to snappy/click packages instead of deb. How drastic is this change? Will it be as easy/easier/harder to install things from the command line? What are the implications?
[10:34] <BluesKaj> Hiyas all
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2015-04-24-#ubuntu
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[00:07] <rex_> I REMEMBER MY PASS BUT IT DOESNT LOGIN
[00:07] <rex_> fkk
[00:08] <petrvs> rex_: maybe caps was on?
[00:08] <petrvs> or is now
[00:08] <rex_> god curse me
[00:08] <rex_> haha i remember
[00:08] <rex_> i hate memory
[00:08] <rex_> once i forget i cant remind
[00:09] <petrvs> that is the trick with forgetting, isn't it
[00:09] <rex_> need to setup ssh server
[00:10] <rex_> but i cant get root
[00:10] <rex_> wtf
[00:11] <k2gremlin> could anyone help me with IP tables. I am trying to get a port open on my server. Testing from ping.eu and its still closed. Port is 37777 and I am trying to allow it to connect to 192.168.2.58. Here is my current IP tables. http://pastebin.com/B3qbeFtb
[00:12] <rex_> but i cant get root :(
[00:12] <rex_> it took awhile to install server
[00:12] <petrvs> k2gremlin: #netfilter
[00:13] <petrvs> rex_: if you have an ordinary live OS you can boot and not run an installer from, you can fix root from it
[00:13] <k2gremlin> petrvs, thanks
[00:13] <Bashing-om> !root | rex_
[00:13] <rex_> i hate ubuntu server its stupid menu
[00:13] <petrvs> heh
[00:14] <rex_> i just wanted intel synatx in gdb ;(
[00:14] <rex_> no sudoers file. This incident will be reported
[00:14] <rebs> hey how can i enable autologin in 14.04. i dont see any toggle switches in user account settings
[00:14] <Johnny_Linux> D`oh!
[00:15] <rex_> please
[00:16] <rex_> so much bots lmao
[00:16] <blee> petrvs: any ideas?
[00:16] <rex_> no
[00:17] <blee> petrvs: to make it simple, lets just say 2 interfaces, "br1" and "bond0", how do i make resolvconf use one over the other?
[00:20] <petrvs> blee: oh sorry I'm not sure, might ask #linux
[00:21] <rex_> please help
[00:23] <anton02> when are you guys gonna get a bigger beard? http://i.4cdn.org/g/1429706823914.jpg
[00:24] <petrvs> anton02: ha
[00:24] <petrvs> anton02: what's that from?
[00:24] <Bashing-om> rex_: What command are you trying to execute, and what is your end goal ?
[00:24] <Guest10283> q
[00:24] <anton02> petrvs, not sure
[00:24] <rex_> setup openssh, I need root
[00:24] <hybridpollo> blee: look at resolvconf man page on section: interface ordering
[00:25] <cxdvty> some help me
[00:25] <faultyjohn> q
[00:25] <Jordan_U> !ot | anton02 petrvs
[00:25] <cxdvty> How can I install ubuntu 15.04 to a drive partition that currently has a different os on it
[00:25] <blee> hybridpollo: i read it, and configured everything in network/interfaces file using dns-nameserver, but resolvconf -u doesnt update
[00:25] <pavlos> blee, per resolvconf page, the -a <interface> flag uses that interface
[00:26] <faultyjohn> do you want to overwrite it or partition?
[00:26] <blee> pavlos: it just freezes if i do resolvconf -a lo
[00:26] <petrvs> too bad
[00:26] <cxdvty> I want to completely replace the os on that partition with ubuntu 15.04
[00:26] <faultyjohn> liveboot
[00:26] <cxdvty> im dualbooted with ubuntu 14.10 and kubuntu 15.04 right now
[00:26] <faultyjohn> choose install ubuntu
[00:27] <cxdvty> ubuntu 14.120 wont boot so I want to replace it
[00:27] <faultyjohn> then choose erase entire disk and install ubuntu
[00:27] <cxdvty> I still want to be dualbooted
[00:27] <cxdvty> Unless there is no other way
[00:28] <faultyjohn> ok
[00:28] <faultyjohn> shrink the partition
[00:29] <faultyjohn> with gparted
[00:29] <cxdvty> Or can I just repartition the drive to only have kubuntu on it?
[00:29] <cxdvty> faultyjohn... How do I do that
[00:29] <faultyjohn> stop cinfusing me
[00:29] <faultyjohn> confusing*
[00:29] <faultyjohn> ok
[00:29] <cxdvty> Do you know how to do that
[00:29] <faultyjohn> how is the drive currently partioned?
[00:29] <cxdvty> That's my final decision
[00:29] <cxdvty> Its split equally between ubuntu and kubuntu
[00:30] <blee> i used the resolvconf --wipe-runtime-directories and now its gone
[00:30] <blee> resolv.conf is gone
[00:30] <faultyjohn> how do you want it partitioned?
[00:32] <deadmund> faultyjohn: cxdvty You said originally you want to completely replace the existing os and install only ubuntu 15.04 (that is possible and probably the easiest)
[00:32] <cxdvty> faultyjohn: I want everything erased and I want kubuntu to have the drive to itself
[00:33] <cxdvty> deadmund: I just realized I lost my usb lol
[00:33] <faultyjohn> do you have gparted?
[00:33] <cxdvty> Yes I have Gparted
[00:33] <cxdvty> Im on kubuntu right now
[00:33] <cxdvty> I want to keep only kubuntu and erase everythin else I want one single partition with kubuntu on it
[00:33] <faultyjohn> can you delete ubuntu from gparted?
[00:34] <cxdvty> I don't know
[00:34] <cxdvty> ObrienDave are you here
[00:34] <cxdvty> deadmund: do you know what I am talking about?
[00:34] <deadmund> cxdvty: faultyjohn You can't edit partitions that are mounted and you cannot unmount the / (root) partition. So you'll need to use some USB with some OS (perferbly linux) to repartition the drive. Then you'll need to update grub. Also, you need to be careful not to delete your personal data (like documents music, etc)
[00:35] <deadmund> cxdvty: I think I know what you're talking about. But I'm not 100% sure.
[00:35] <faultyjohn> ok
[00:35] <faultyjohn> do you have a live cd/usb cxdvty?
[00:36] <rex____> guys watch out
[00:36] * deadmund ducks
[00:36] <rex____> I didn't create normal user what does it mean? will be a sudo permanent?
[00:36] <cxdvty_> deadmund: I disconnected. But what do I do?
[00:37] <faultyjohn> do you have a live cd/usb
[00:37] <deadmund> cxdvty: You "disconnected" ??
[00:37] <deadmund> cxdvty: I don't know what that means.
[00:37] <deadmund> cxdvty: as faultyjohn asks: do you have a live cd/usb you can boot?
[00:38] <cxdvty_> deadmund I'm searching for a usb but no i dont have one made for ubuntu yet
[00:38] <deadmund> cxdvty: You will need some live cd / usb running some os (preferbly linux) to repartition your drive.
[00:39] <cxdvty_> Why preferbly linux?
[00:39] <faultyjohn> the live version of ubuntu comes with gparted built in
[00:39] <cxdvty_> Is anyone running ubuntu 15.04
[00:39] <faultyjohn> windows doesn't mak live boots
[00:39] <faultyjohn> *make
[00:39] <cxdvty_> Is it worth using anyways
[00:40] <faultyjohn> what is
[00:40] <faultyjohn> ubuntu?
[00:40] <cxdvty_> 15.04
[00:40] <cxdvty_> ya
[00:40] <deadmund> cxdvty_: It's easier for us to isntruct you with linux and I know it will work.
[00:40] <cxdvty_> Linux always messed up on me and froze all of the time
[00:40] <deadmund> cxdvty_: It's probably not much different unless you're running KDE or a cloud sever with virtual machines
[00:41] <cxdvty_> I develop android roms
[00:41] <cxdvty_> Whats best for me
[00:41] <Goose_> How easy is it to switch to kubuntu? Can I just switch from the normal ubuntu distro to kubuntu without re-installing everything?
[00:41] <tsukasa_> is there something screwy going on with the apt mirrors right now?
[00:41] <tsukasa_> i'm getting a hash mismatch on a mirror
[00:42] <faultyjohn> what is the difference between ubuntu and kubuntu
[00:42] <cxdvty_> faultyjohn: kubuntu plasma 5 is steezy looking and has cool animations and what not
[00:43] <deadmund> Goose_: yes, just install this: kubuntu-desktop
[00:43] <deadmund> cxdvty_: "steezy" is good in your opinion? or bad?
[00:43] <cxdvty_> good :)
[00:43] <deadmund> faultyjohn: The difference is just what packages are installed by default.
[00:43] <deadmund> faultyjohn: kubuntu has kde installed, ubuntu has unity installed by default.
[00:43] <Goose_> deadmund, can I just switch back with no issue?
[00:44] <faultyjohn> hmm
[00:44] <deadmund> Goose_: You can install both desktop environments (DE's) unity and KDE and then choose which to use when you log in. By installing kubuntu-desktop you are setting this up.
[00:44] <faultyjohn> and whats the difference between kde and unity
[00:44] <cxdvty_> There are also lots of other ones (lubuntu,xubuntu, etc...)
[00:44] <faultyjohn> I sound like an idiot
[00:44] <deadmund> Goose_: If you want to remove it (KDE) it's very easy: sudo apt-get purge kubuntu-desktop.
[00:44] <cxdvty_> Just the look and feel basically
[00:44] <cxdvty_> faultyjohn ^^
[00:44] <faultyjohn> oh ok
[00:45] <cxdvty_> How is ubuntu 15.04?
[00:45] <deadmund> faultyjohn: They're two different "desktop environments" search on youtube for kde4 or kde5 (the new version in ubuntu 15.04) and search for unity and you will see the difference instantly. It's basically the interface of the OS itself.
[00:45] <Goose_> Cool. I know there are many versions but I just saw how great kubuntu looks now and wanted to finally try another one
[00:45] <Goose_> THanks so much!
[00:45] <deadmund> cxdvty_: I don't know how 15.04 is yet, I haven't used it :(
[00:45] <faultyjohn> like gnome for debian?
[00:46] <deadmund> Goose_: Yeah, kubuntu is rocking the all new plasma 5 which is awesome
[00:46] <Goose_> I've downloaded 4 versions and not even touched it
[00:46] <Goose_> Sweet! Can't wait to try
[00:46] <deadmund> faultyjohn: gnome is another DE, (for debian is irrelavent any distro can run any DE)
[00:46] <cxdvty_> deadmund: definately check out kubuntu 15.04 if you can!'
[00:46] <deadmund> cxdvty_: That's for the recommendation :P
[00:46] <faultyjohn> I looked at screenshots
[00:47] <faultyjohn> it all makes sense now
[00:47] <cxdvty_> faultyjohn: deadmund: Are you guys familiar with kitkat and lollipop on android?
[00:47] <deadmund> cxdvty_: yes, very. Why?
[00:47] <deadmund> faultyjohn: yeah :_
[00:47] <faultyjohn> sorry iDevice user
[00:47] <faultyjohn> not by choice
[00:50] <psyrus> a
[00:50] <thiebaude> :)
[00:50] <cxdvty_> deadmund: switching from ubuntu to kubuntu 15.04 is like going to lollipop from kitkat
[00:50] <netameta> How can i make a certain script execute and bind it to launch button ?
[00:51] <thiebaude> 15.10 is looking good for me painless upgrade from 14.10
[00:52] <cxdvty_> deadmund: What distro is better for android developers but still fast and neat looking
[00:53] <deadmund> cxdvty_: I think ubuntu in general is probably the best distro becuase Google mentions it many times in their Android documentation (like setting up the environment). I don't think there is any difference though for android dev between kbuntu, ubuntu, xubuntu, etc
[00:53] <deadmund> netameta: do you know how to create a script?
[00:53] <deadmund> netameta: What DE are you using?
[00:56] <netameta> How can i make a certain script execute and bind it to launch button ?
[00:58] <Goose_> So when I install kubuntu, can I switch between KDE and Unity?
[00:58] <rex____> Yes
[00:58] <rex____> How can I install network interface or network
[00:59] <kostkon> Goose_, to get unity install ubuntu-desktop
[00:59] <rex____> im in terminal
[01:00] <Goose_> So what happens to the existing desktop when I install a new one?
[01:00] <kostkon> Goose_, not really sure what login manager you'll need after that though or what will happen to your login manager
[01:00] <Goose_> What does kubuntu use?
[01:00] <kostkon> Goose_, you should be able to select the DE of your choice from your login manager
[01:00] <Goose_> cool
[01:00] <kostkon> Goose_, good question, I don't know
[01:00] <Goose_> I just wanna see how kubuntu feels compared ot unity
[01:01] <Goose_> looks awesome
[01:04] <Fr3d3r1c> how do i do to force gmail to accept a mail from roundcube
[01:05] <Douglas> anybody here
[01:06] <Fr3d3r1c> yes me :D
[01:06] <Douglas> ""
[01:06] <Douglas> only testing
[01:09] <rex____> please help
[01:09] <rex____> i cant mount the cd...
[01:09] <rex____> http://askubuntu.com/questions/386265/media-change-please-insert-the-disc-labeled-when-trying-to-install-ruby-on-ra i did that
[01:11] <maku_> Did anyone else lose sound in headphone jack of their laptop after upgrading to 15.04?
[01:12] <rex____> yes :(
[01:12] <rex____> This is so sad when I get ignored
[01:13] <penos> 14.04 LTS has no scummvm
[01:13] <windows> hi
[01:13] <penos> :(
[01:13] <penos> hi windows
[01:14] <windows> im doing the upgrade
[01:14] <windows> hi pen
[01:15] <windows> is 15.04 lts?
[01:15] <rex____> Please help
[01:17] <popey> windows: no
[01:17] <windows> ok thx
[01:18] <rex____> !ops
[01:18] <rodney77> hello, I corrupted an sd card after not unmounting cleanly. I reformatted the card. I can write to it using mkdir in cli, but I can't make a folder in nautilius
[01:18] <rodney77> nautilus claims the system is read-only
[01:18] <rodney77> even though I can mkdir as my normal user (not root). any ideas?
[01:20] <elky> rex____: what's the emergency?
[01:20] <rex____> i cant install ethtool
[01:20] <rodney77> ok I just realized I can write to it using gksudo nautilus
[01:20] <windows> i had that once then remounted the card and could write to it
[01:20] <elky> rex____: that's not a channel emergency.
[01:21] <rex____> elky: who are you
[01:21] <rex____> elsky: can you help?
[01:21] <elky> rex____: one of the twenty+ people you just pinged. no, i'm eating dinner
[01:21] <elky> i got up because i thought there was a flooding incident
[01:22] <rex____> elky: ya idc
[01:22] <rex____> lmao you
[01:22] <elky> you seem to have forgotten to read the guidelines for using this channel
[01:22] <elky> !guidelines
[01:23] <neurosis-> lol
[01:23] <rex____> Yeah might did a little mistake. I need help
[01:23] <windows> rex did you install in synaptic?
[01:23] <rodney77> hey guys, maybe help me instead because i'm following the rules and not being ridiculous
[01:24] <rex____> rodney77: go cops
[01:24] <elky> rodney77: sorry, no ideas
[01:24] <rex____> im in terminal
[01:24] <Goose_> So I guess I'm doing something wrong
[01:24] <phunyguy> or we can settle down as we are all volunteers.
[01:24] <rex____> elky: multiple users is not allowed.
[01:25] <Goose_> What do I have do to actually switch between kubuntu and ubuntu. How can I change which one loads
[01:25] <rex____> Im at serer not graphical user interface
[01:25] <windows> goose with grub
[01:25] <wafflejock> rodney77, yeah not sure can try reformatting with gparted
[01:25] <cfhowlett> Goose_, at login, click the selection gear and select your session
[01:25] <wafflejock> Goose_, you can install multiple desktop environments and pick during at the logout/login screen
[01:25] <rodney77> thanks wafflejock, I will try but when I tried it before, it wouldn't even let me. even gparted thought the filesystem was read-only
[01:26] <Goose_> Aliright
[01:26] <Goose_> thanks
[01:26] <phunyguy> windows: that is incorrect. Please be helpful.
[01:26] <wafflejock> Goose_, should just be the unity-desktop package I'm pretty sure
[01:26] <phunyguy> You don't change which desktop environment loads with grub.
[01:26] <windows> i was guessing
[01:26] <cfhowlett> windows. don't. if you don't know, don't give advice.
[01:27] <phunyguy> If you installed both as separate OSes, then Ubuntu is smart enough to create the entries for you.
[01:27] <Craigwell> I want to clone my laptop's 80gb HD with 14.04 and Win7 partition, along with a common FAT32 partition, onto a larger hard drive. I have a USB enclosure for the new drive I can use, before I swap it into the system. Anyone have suggestions on what the best method is?
[01:27] <rodney77> yeah, gparted can't even make my parition
[01:29] <Craigwell> I've been reading about clonezilla, but it's talking about partitioning a thumbdrive for use with it, etc and I'm thinking that's making it more complicated than it needs to be?
[01:29] <wafflejock> Craigwell, clonezilla is nice but would need a "third drive" something to clone the image to then from the image to another disk I'm pretty sure... may be able to go direct disk to disk but typically I've used it for backup purposes or cloning over multiple machines
[01:30] <rodney77> nm, my partition table itself was corrupted
[01:31] <rodney77> i rebuilt this and so far, so good
[01:31] <rodney77> thanks
[01:31] <wafflejock> rodney77, ah good to know
[01:31] <Goose_> So how exactly do I get into grub at loadup?
Thank you.. It may be unavoidable, not sure. I guess I can understand why, if an image needs to be made first.
[01:31] <Goose_> I just get the Ubuntu screen and load in normally
[01:31] <deadmund> Goose_: I helped you earlier. What are you trying to do?
[01:31] <Goose_> DO I need to remove ubuntu-desktop then install kubuntu?
[01:31] <Goose_> Just load kubuntu
[01:31] <cfhowlett> Goose_, grub will NOT switch sessions as you requested.
[01:31] <Goose_> Then what do I have to do?
[01:32] <Goose_> remove ubuntu, install kubuntu, reboot? or what?
[01:32] <deadmund> Goose_: turn on ubuntu as normal, log out, click the gear icon, change it to "KDE" "plasma" or whatever, log back in.
[01:32] <cfhowlett> Goose_, on the login screen there is a round gear. click. it will drop down you session choices
[01:32] <Goose_> Oh
[01:32] <Goose_> Well
[01:32] <deadmund> Goose_: Did you already install the package: "kubuntu-desktop" ?
[01:32] <Goose_> Be right back haha
[01:32] <Goose_> yes
[01:32] <wafflejock> Craigwell, yeah just don't recall ever doing it direct disk to disk though I'm pretty sure it does do the partition resizing for you just did some googling looks like there's some other methods but have to manually resize the partitions afterwards http://askubuntu.com/questions/151127/how-do-i-move-copy-my-entire-ubuntu-system-to-a-different-hard-disk
[01:34] <Craigwell> wafflejock: I'll dig a little deeper. I was expecting to resize partitions on the new drive when done.
[01:34] <wafflejock> Craigwell, yeah from a little more searching looks like maybe Clonezilla will do the direct disk to disk too
[01:34] <wafflejock> Craigwell, http://askubuntu.com/questions/106527/how-to-move-ubuntu-installation-from-one-hdd-to-another
[01:36] <tim_> im trying to connect my ubuntu server vm to my debian host through ssh
[01:36] <tim_> not sure what i should be doing for network interfaces
[01:36] <Craigwell> wafflejock: Ok, Thank you. I'll read further. SInce I don't do this type of thing often, I figured I'd check here about preferred methods. Worst case scenario, I can start from scratch - but would rather not. Seems like it might be a wash, taking the time to get all the steps right - especially grub / uuid vs. fresh installs lol . Thanks again
[01:37] <talsamon> the fucking systemd is stole my swap with his dozens of tmpfs without tell a word, now i can reinstall, thats bullshit !!
[01:37] <cfhowlett> talsamon, profanity won't help and it's prohibited in this channel. stop.
[01:38] * eggbeater no longer has virgin eyes
[01:38] <talsamon> cfhowlett, the systemd could not overwrite my swap, without say any warning, what should that be, torture the users
[01:39] <talsamon> is it possible to disable systemd
[01:39] <kostkon> talsamon, no i'm afraid
[01:40] <talsamon> I have no swap anymore, and a dozen of zram warnings what should I do
[01:40] <eggbeater> Really, recovering what you can and reinstalling is the fastest thing.
[01:42] <talsamon> reinstalling fuck off
[01:42] <talsamon> that's a good idea, I never would found this
[01:43] <eggbeater> no profanity, please. There are minors here.
[01:43] <jason__> I'm getting g++ is not found, but if I do apt-get install g++ it says it's already installed. Anyone have any idea what might be causing this?
[01:44] <kostkon> jason__, try sudo apt-get install build-essential
[01:44] <jason__> installed as well
[01:49] <KM0201> you dont need to repartition the drive if you're installing over an old install
[01:49] <KM0201> just choose manual install, and point it at the old install's / drive, done
[01:53] <Goose_> Hey guys I got KDE running!
[01:53] <Goose_> But it doesn't appear to be running plasma 5
[01:53] <Goose_> Well, at least it didn't look that video that's going around
[01:54] <eggbeater> Goose_: Sweet on ya, mate!
[01:54] <Goose_> How do I get it running plasma 5 though?
[01:54] <Goose_> Well actually can I run plasma 5 on 14.04
[01:54] <Goose_> ?
[01:56] <nogoodnamesleft> I've not yet noticed a difference between 14.10 and 15.04. Just as a user. All the changes seem technical/hidden to the end user.
[01:56] <nogoodnamesleft> Icons are slightly different I guess.
[01:57] <Johnny_Linux> nn
[02:00] <wafflejock> nogoodnamesleft, looked at the upgrade page looked like mostly performance tuning and added some options for configuring the menus and a few other small UI things, says they are basically still working through the Unity 8 convergence stuff for making the phone interface work, heard some interesting things about that but think it's for another room
[02:02] <ubuno> how can i show you a screen shot , so you can help me !!
[02:02] <cfhowlett> ubuno, imgur.com
[02:03] <OerHeks> http://imgur.com/
[02:04] <penos> 14.04 LTS has no scummvm
[02:04] <penos> :(
[02:06] <ubuno> My ubuntu alarm clock doesn't work , it doesn't make noise when i click in play I get this message http://i.imgur.com/Q11M4uE.png?1?7596 , please help !!!
[02:07] <ubuno> D I need to install some plugin ??
[02:08] <ubuno> ??
[02:08] <faultyjohn> idk
[02:08] <[n0mad]> ubuno: can you play any mp3?
[02:08] <[n0mad]> outside of that app?
[02:08] <ubuno> YES
[02:08] <ubuno> YES I CAN
[02:12] <ubuno> Any HELP ??
[02:13] <[n0mad]> ubuno: what if you select a different mp3 from the app?
[02:14] <[n0mad]> same error?
[02:14] <kroq-gar781> ubuno, also, does the program require using an mp3? If not, try using an audio file of a different format and see if the error still appears.
[02:15] <penos> 14.04 LTS has no scummvm
[02:15] <penos> :(
[02:15] <cfhowlett> I would be surprised if an ubuntu app REQUIRED .mp3
[02:15] <[n0mad]> also, did you get that alarms from the market? i just downloaded it from there and it looks different.
[02:16] <TripWire> Hi...does anyone have knowledge of using PulseAudio in Ubuntu 14.04?
[02:16] <kostkon> [n0mad], there are many alarm apps in the software centre
[02:16] <[n0mad]> if i type in alarms i see 5, not too many
[02:17] <kroq-gar781> penos, are you sure it doesn't? apt://scummvm
[02:17] <[n0mad]> and i picked the one that looked closest in the screenshot
[02:17] <[n0mad]> but i can't even resize the window
[02:17] <kostkon> [n0mad], ok, let's say i meant more than 1
[02:17] <penos> kroq-gar781, i have to add the source?
[02:17] <kroq-gar781> penos, are you using a live image? If so, then yes, you need to enable the Universe component.
[02:17] <[n0mad]> but what it seems like to me is the alarms app being used doesn't know what your default player is
[02:18] <[n0mad]> as it's not actually playing the mp3
[02:18] <ptol34> Can you run plasma 5 on 14.04?
[02:18] <[n0mad]> and relies on your player to
[02:18] <penos> kroq-gar781, i have installed on machine and universe is enabled
[02:18] <[n0mad]> that's what this one did, uses my rhythmbox to actually play
[02:19] <cellis> are you still having problems with pulse?
[02:22] <locksmith> hi
[02:25] <Stanley00> A little late, but I still want to say this. Congarulation you all with new Ubuntu release! :3
[02:25] <romulobr> hi, I installed ubuntu gnome 14.10 on my macbookpro, wi-fi didn't work after wake from sleep, I tried to fix it and now the computer never wakes up from sleep. Does anybody have a sugestion on how to fix that?
[02:25] <romulobr> do you think upgrading to 15.04 might solve it?
[02:26] <cfhowlett> romulobr, possibly but ask the !mac resources
[02:27] <romulobr> sorry, i don't know what !mac resources means
[02:27] <romulobr> cfhowlett: ^
[02:27] <cfhowlett> !mac | romulobr see all the options here
[02:29] <TripWire> cellis, I want the sound to automatically transfer to my HDMI device when I plug it into my laptop
[02:34] <coolstar-pc> is there a channel where I can get some help with grub?
[02:35] <coolstar-pc> need to load a custom DSDT because my motherboard is buggy and seems to hate any OS I throw at it with the stock DSDT
[02:38] <ItsMeLenny> i'm on ubuntu 14.10 and i have this problem where if i boot my desktop, then boot my laptop after that acts as a shared network over ethernet, then the lan on my desktop wont turn on
[02:39] <ItsMeLenny> i have to boot my laptop first, whos lan will turn on fine if it wasnt connected to something, (laptop is not ubuntu), but my desktop needs to havethe lan connected and the opposite end switched on to be able to even work
[02:39] <ItsMeLenny> i cant turn my computer on then plug in an ethernet, what would be causing this problem
[02:40] <canonicaldroid> Spotify wont open on ubuntu 15.04
[02:40] <ItsMeLenny> when my computer boots i do see in the bootup printout that it gets an error if there is no lan connected
[02:42] <OerHeks> coolstar-pc, is this page any help? https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelTeam/HardwareEnableWithDSDT
[02:42] <ItsMeLenny> it also takes a little longer to boot when there is no ethernet connected, because of that error
[02:45] <netameta> Anyone has a clue why screenshots that being taken by odesk are all black ?
[02:45] <netameta> No content at all
[02:49] <OerHeks> netameta, where do you find odesk ? it is not in the repos
[02:49] <neargulars> hi guys im trying to get wireless working for my thinkpad using the intel 7260 chipset. I've found walk throughs on the internet for installing "iwlwifi" pkgs but I encountered errors along the way...
[02:51] <wafflejock> netameta_, dunno about odesk but can get shutter, sudo apt-get install shutter, it's a nice screen capture app
[02:52] <netameta_> well its just a app that time logs
[02:54] <somsip> netameta_: it's a proprietary app provided by the third party and not supported here. Have you asked odesk support about it?
[02:54] <netameta_> somsip, Thanks for the help, i managed to fix it...
[02:55] <deadmund> neargulars: You still there??
[02:57] <neargulars> hello deadmund
[02:58] * Quantos is away: Veni, Vidi, Vici
[02:59] <Boxedin123> Hey, anyone here?
[02:59] <Boxedin123> I don't need support with anything I'm just wondering how something works
[02:59] <kristhia1> how do i enable html5 in ubuntu?
[02:59] <kristhia1> or is it in the browser?
[03:00] <Boxedin123> I read how to build sfml in Linux...and it only takes 3 commands in the directory...I haven't tried it and is it THAT easy?????? I'm coming from windows and you had to use cmake and all that.
[03:00] <kostkon> kristhia1, browser. Why?
[03:01] <Boxedin123> And if so how does that work technically? Under the hood what is it doing what is it using???
[03:02] <kristhia1> im sorry i am currently using the default browser
[03:02] <kristhia1> firefox
[03:02] <kristhia1> how do i enable html5?
[03:03] <kostkon> kristhia1, do you mean on youtube for example?
[03:03] <kristhia1> kostkon: i need it to view videos in some sites.
[03:03] <kristhia1> yep
[03:03] <kristhia1> and in youjizz too. :D
[03:04] <nonuby> html5 video is already enabled, you can opt in explicitly to youube experiment at https://www.youtube.com/html5
[03:05] <kristhia1> actually i am watching something in youjizz and it says the video requires html5
[03:05] <kristhia1> not in youtube :(
[03:05] <kristhia1> im sorry
[03:05] <Boxedin123> Anyone have any insight on my question?
[03:05] <kostkon> kristhia1, they are not 100% supported yet, some codecs are missing in firefox, we are waiting for mozilla to officially activate the media extensions in linux, but you can try this http://www.ghacks.net/2014/05/10/enable-media-source-extensions-firefox/
[03:06] <kristhia1> can i try other browser instead?
[03:06] <kostkon> kristhia1, it's already there but not activated, afaik
[03:07] <kostkon> kristhia1, yes, Chrome.
[03:07] <kristhia1> will chromium do the trick?
[03:07] <kostkon> kristhia1, no
[03:07] <kristhia1> i dont know how to install chrome in ubuntu
[03:07] <kostkon> kristhia1, you need chrome. You can get it from here http://www.google.com/chrome/ download the version for ubuntu and then double click on the .deb file to install it. It's that easy
[03:08] <kristhia1> ok
[03:08] <kristhia1> ty
[03:09] <TripWire> Hi...does anyone have knowledge of using PulseAudio in Ubuntu 14.04? I want it to automatically switch my audio over to my HDMI device when I plug it into my laptop and vice versa.
[03:09] <kristhia1> downloading now
[03:09] <TripWire> Right now, I have to select the option to do so
[03:09] <kristhia1> thanks for the help kostkon
[03:09] <kostkon> kristhia1, np
[03:11] <captainfantastic> does anyone find those lines in sidebar of nautilus ugly
[03:14] <Boxedin123> I read how to build sfml in Linux...and it only takes 3 commands in the directory...I haven't tried it and is it THAT easy?????? I'm coming from windows and you had to use cmake and all that and if so what's it doing under the hood etc? How is it doing it? Thanksalso please let me know if you can see my message.
[03:19] <SchrodingersScat> Boxedin123: idk, what are the commands? and message received. Most are easy, so wouldn't surprise me if it's something like ./configure && make && make install
[03:20] <RobinHood2015> I just installed Ubuntu 15.04 and I can't connect to a WiFi network. It gets stuck on that animated "WiFi connecting" icon forever. What's wrong here?
[03:21] <cribbageSTARSHIP> hello?
[03:23] <Boxedin123> Can anyone even seeee my messages?
[03:23] <cribbageSTARSHIP> i can
[03:23] <Boxedin123> Hey! Do you know anything about how Linux works?
[03:23] <Boxedin123> I just want to understand what something is doing
[03:24] <SchrodingersScat> !man | Boxedin123
[03:27] <cribbageSTARSHIP> Boxedin123: what are you looking for exactly. what do you want to do
[03:27] <Nexuus> anybody enjoying the 15.04 goodness yet?
[03:30] <subin> hi
[03:30] <cribbageSTARSHIP> Nexuus: not yet. Im trying to fix my samba server
[03:30] <cribbageSTARSHIP> subin: hey!
[03:31] <subin> its heared that ubuntu uses more system resourses..?
[03:31] <somsip> subin: than what>
[03:31] <cribbageSTARSHIP> subin: i would think unity uses more
[03:32] <subin> ok... now i uses mint.. it freezes when i copy large files from my pc to mobile
[03:32] <cribbageSTARSHIP> somsip: i think subin is referring to the weight of DEs
[03:32] <somsip> subin: mint is not supported here
[03:32] <cribbageSTARSHIP> subin: how are you sending the files
[03:32] <snadge> is there a less purple vivid desktop background? :p
[03:32] <subin> data cable
[03:32] <snadge> now that its released.. someone will surely come to the rescue
[03:32] <cribbageSTARSHIP> subin: are you using android? use airdroid
[03:33] <subin> yes android...
[03:33] <somsip> !ot | cribbageSTARSHIP (particularly important the day after a new release)
[03:35] <kostkon> snadge, of course, check the alternative version http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2015/03/ubuntu-15-04-default-wallpaper-and-it-may-surprise-you
[03:35] <achom> guys, how do i get xterm to align itself?
[03:35] <achom> like i want the first instance which i top to start from top left covering about 1/4th of screen
[03:35] <somsip> achom: are you using unity?
[03:35] <achom> 2nd instance top right, third bottom left...
[03:36] <Boxedin123> So guys...why does Ubuntu come with a GCC compiler ...because people asked for it?? Also how is it possible for Linux to build library's without something like cmake??
[03:37] <somsip> Boxedin123: you keep asking very generally (and mostly non-ubuntu) questions. Do you have a direct support issue?
[03:37] <achom> somsip: pantheon
[03:38] <somsip> achom: what version of ubuntu are you using?
[03:38] <achom> somsip: im actually using elementar
[03:38] <somsip> achom: thought it might be. Not supported here
[03:38] <somsip> !elementary | achom
[03:39] <achom> somsip: oh i thought since it was built on ubuntu
[03:39] <achom> so it might be supported
[03:39] <somsip> achom: not the case.
[03:39] <achom> somsip: btw, can i know what do i call the feature i want
[03:39] <somsip> achom: tiling
[03:39] <achom> somsip: thank you for your help
[03:40] <somsip> achom: np
[03:42] <achom> somsip: mind if i PM you?
[03:42] <somsip> achom: please don't. too busy and I only help in channel when i can
[03:42] <achom> alright np
[04:03] <nogoodnamesleft> err, hi. Have we lost the i2c kernel modules in vivid / 3.19? i2c_i801 and i2c_dev are no longer showing for me and my laptop needs them
[04:07] <nogoodnamesleft> I am loading them in /etc/modules but lsmod is not showing them.
[04:08] <faultyjohn> hello
[04:09] <francis> hello
[04:15] <bigGpick> Hey guys.
[04:17] <bigGpick> I'm looking for driver for a NX7300LE-TD256EH that is compatible with Linux.
[04:18] <Ben64> bigGpick: you mean a nvidia 7300
[04:19] <bigGpick> yes... let me check
[04:20] <Ricardo2015> !list
[04:20] <bigGpick> NX7300LE
[04:20] <Ben64> bigGpick: well they're already in ubuntu, you just need to install them. you need version 304
[04:20] <Ricardo2015> help
[04:21] <Ben64> Ricardo2015: ask a question, give as much detail as possible
[04:22] <nogoodnamesleft> Vivid here. I've got i2c_i801 in /etc/modules so it should be loading up however lsmod isn't showing it. My laptop needs it for trackpad.
[04:24] <bigGpick> Version 304?
[04:24] <bigGpick> Ben64: Where is that found? Package manager?
[04:24] <Ricardo2015> Anybody can configure Ricoh Aficio 2027 (network printer) in Linux? I'm a beginner, sorry...:(
[04:25] <Ben64> bigGpick: ubuntu software center -> edit -> software sources -> additional drivers
[04:26] <nogoodnamesleft> ok: sudo modprobe i2c_i801 hangs the machine... should I bug report this?
[04:29] <bdog7> is it out?
[04:29] <somsip> !outyet | bdog7
[04:30] <bdog7> put it away then :P
[04:30] <HerroWorlds> can someone please point me to a guide to add a configuration file for a dante SOCKS server to the default PAM setup on a ubuntu server?
[04:31] <Ricardo2015> exit
[04:31] <Ricardo2015> quit
[04:32] <HerroWorlds> ?
[04:39] <xiningli> e
[04:39] <xiningli> hi
[04:39] <xiningli> i am new here
[04:39] <xiningli> ....
[04:39] <xiningli> can anyone see me?
[04:39] <xiningli> qeq
[04:39] <xiningli> e
[04:39] <xiningli> wq
[04:39] <xiningli> e
[04:39] <gingermouse> xiningli: I can
[04:40] <somsip> xiningli: you are here. Stop with the test messages please
[04:41] <xiningli> we have so many people here
[04:42] <xiningli> ...
[04:42] <somsip> xiningli: this is a support channel. Do you have a support question?
[04:43] <Kage`> Ok, can someone give me a good direction on disk encryption with Ubuntu, please? Every article (FullDiskEncryption, EncryptedFilesystems, etc.) are contradictory and pointing in circles of each other, claiming each other are bad ideas. So.. what is the recommended standard? luks, cryptsetup, +dm_crypt, ..? Because they all say, "Yes."
[04:50] <xiningli> i dont know if we can send pictures to each other
[04:50] <xiningli> via irc
[04:50] <xiningli> i use irrs
[04:51] <somsip> xiningli: that is not somethign supported here. Type '/join #freenode' for advice about IRC
[04:52] <Zerkalerka> anyone got experience with nvidia 840m and ubuntu? I get the black screen after login when installing the proprietary driver
[04:52] <Zerkalerka> always have to purge it and reboot
[04:58] <Zerkalerka> specifically after I always install the nvidia drivers on next boot a new ACPI error always pops up, disappears when uninstalled though.
[04:59] <bigGpick> uh-oh. I'm gettinga "gnu grub" screen....
[04:59] <bigGpick> version 1.98-1ubuntu13. First option is Ubuntu, with Linux 2.6.32-73-generic
[04:59] <bigGpick> second option is the same (recovery mode)
[05:00] <bigGpick> no idea why i'm seeing this or what i'm supposed to do
[05:06] <xiningli> 你好
[05:16] <sillysquirt> ok guys, how do I do mobile broadband USB tethering with my cell phone?
[05:17] <sillysquirt> where it shows the signal strength and drives the modem inside the cell phone
[05:19] <rba1988> Hi guys. Just read that ubuntu will eventually move to snappy. What are the implications of this? Does this mean I can't do some easy apt-get install commands once this happens?
[05:19] <somsip> rba1988: where did you read that?
[05:20] <rba1988> http://www.webupd8.org/2015/04/ubuntu-desktop-to-eventually-switch-to.html
[05:21] <rba1988> somsip softpedia also has an article on it
[05:21] <rba1988> sorry is this the channel to discuss it? Or should I join another #ubuntu channel?
[05:22] <somsip> rba1988: i think the webpage you supplied has plenty of information linked from it that might answer your question. And #ubuntu-offtopic is probably better but possibly quiet at this time
[05:22] <rba1988> somsip: ok thanks
[05:43] <Zerkalerka> Ok, when I have my external monitor plugged in via HDMI and try to log in, I get a black screen. If it is unplugged I can boot up fine, when I switch back to intel mode vs nvidia I can then log in using my external monitor. Anyone know or can point me in the right direction to fix this?
[05:48] <Folatt> Hello there, I have a question, I recently switched SSD and installed Ubuntu on it, but something went wrong.
[05:48] <Folatt> My SSD drive cannot start unless I have my old SSD connected.
[05:49] <Folatt> For some reason when I try to boot my old SSD, it boots the new one.
[05:49] <JoshH99> Hey there, just ran the upgrade from 14.10 to 15.04, and sshd won't restart now. I have web KVM access to the system, but nothing else. Any advice?
[05:50] <Folatt> Does the sshd give any errors when you try to boot it?
[05:50] <Folatt> What do you see when you try to restart it?
[05:50] <Folatt> Did the upgrade finish?
[05:51] <JoshH99> I'll test that again. I just tried after the upgrade's reboot and then attempted to restart the service a few different times
[05:51] <JoshH99> Will test
[05:51] <Folatt> Okay, I have a similar problem right now, but at least half understand what happened.
[05:52] <UncleJoe> Hello
[05:52] <Folatt> Hello UncleJoe
[05:52] <Deep6> guys is there a way to get more information on packages that AREN'T installed on the system...i.e the equivalent of dpkg-query -s?
[05:53] <somsip> Deep6: yes, use dpkg-query -s
[05:53] <somsip> Deep6: sorry - just re-read and understood what you meant
[05:54] <JoshH99> @Follatt: http://cl.ly/1k0s0L2e0h12
[05:54] <UncleJoe> I have two 14.04 installs, and I want to create a link on the one (//Server/F) to the other (BIGPIG/5TB) so that I can eventually add the //SERVER/F to the //BIGPIG after I've moved all the files. I have a sorter cleaning up files from SERVER/E to SERVER/F/*dir periodically.
[05:54] <UncleJoe> Too convoluted?
[05:55] <UncleJoe> *physically move the 3TB F: to the other machine after I've copied the files and made a link
[05:55] <somsip> Deep6: apt-cache show {package} may be what you want
[05:55] <JoshH99> @Folatt - Sorry - mistyped your username in my above reply
[05:56] <Folatt> Doesn't matter, I looked. It's not the problem I have. I know that much now.
[05:56] <Flannel> Deep6: depending on what info you're looking for, it's either apt-cache show [package] or apt-cache showpkg [package]
[05:57] <JoshH99> @Folatt - Luckily, I only did this on a system that I can live without SSH for a while on, since it's just an ownCloud server I have set up.
[05:58] <Folatt> Your ownCloud server uses Ubuntu?
[05:59] <JoshH99> @Folatt - Yep. On Vultr's 2GB VPS.
[06:00] <JoshH99> @Folatt - Interestingly, when I try to `service ssh restart`, I'm asked to decrypt the SSL keys I use for apache
[06:01] <UncleJoe> I'll try rewriting my question
[06:02] <Folatt> joshh99, That's all a little bit beyond me. I have a owncloud server too using a very simple user-friendly OS build for it, so I have no idea what a VPS is.
[06:03] <Deep6> Flannel: doh! of course.... I'ved used apt-cache search a ton... doh!
[06:03] <Folatt> VPS stand for Virtual Private Server?
[06:03] <JoshH99> @Folatt - Yep!
[06:04] <JoshH99> @Folatt - For you or anyone else who might try to help, this is what happens when I run `service ssh status`: http://puu.sh/hoSZq/2e7c847104.png
[06:04] <Deep6> /nicklist
[06:05] <UncleJoe> 2 Ubuntu installs 14.04- (1) HDD that I want to physically remove. (2) has a 5tb. I want to move the content of (1) to (2), set up a (sym?)link so that any new content shows as going to (1)/Folder, but it is actually going to (2)/Folder.
[06:06] <UncleJoe> Also allowing me to physically remove the (1) whenever I'm done moving content.
[06:06] <UncleJoe> Hopefully this makes more sense now, anyone?
[06:07] <Ben64> UncleJoe: no
[06:07] <somsip> !info clonezilla | UncleJoe
[06:08] <somsip> UncleJoe: so clone [1] to [2], remove [1] and boot to [2].
[06:08] <UncleJoe> somsip: Would this allow me to have a symlink after? I ask because I have a downloader/sorter which doesn't cooperate with // paths
[06:08] <Symmetria> mmmmm rocketraid controller driver doesnt compile under the new kernel in ubuntu 15.04, just had to switch back to older kernel
[06:09] <Ben64> UncleJoe: i don
[06:09] <Ben64> 't see where symlinks are necessary
[06:09] <somsip> UncleJoe: what would a symlink accomplish given you're removing 1? What have // paths got to do with anything?
[06:10] <Folatt> JoshH99, When your video stops, does it freeze there? I mean, the last log entry is saying that 's running some module.
[06:10] <UncleJoe> somsip: The software on (1) downloads content to a different drive, verifies it and then moves the sorted content to the drive in question. It is a PITA to reinstall and from what I understand, it won't allow typing a "//192.168.0.1/$folder"
[06:11] <dtscode> hey guys... im on ubuntu 14.04 and installed typescript via $ sudo npm install -g typescript, but when i type tsc test.ts, i get "/usr/bin/env: node: No such file or directory". how can i fix this?
[06:11] <dtscode> i recognize that this might not be the best place to ask, but if anyone happens to know, im all ears
[06:11] <JoshH99> @Folatt - Nope. Just when CloudApp stopped recording
[06:12] <somsip> UncleJoe: so it's two servers and not just two drives? And the software on server 1 needs to copy to a mounted drive on 2?
[06:13] <Folatt> joshh99, I think the last log entry is important, because that's usually where see the error.
[06:13] <Folatt> Because that's usually where the error is.
[06:13] <JoshH99> @Folatt - Fixed it after digging through the syslog file. Privilege separation directory /var/run/sshd was missing. Created it with 0755, and it worked.
[06:14] <UncleJoe> somsip: Two servers, correct. I would like it to copy to the other, but I would like to have no path changes if possible- so a link that says the drive is still attached, but it's actually on a different comp.
[06:14] <Folatt> JoshH99, You fixed it? :)
[06:14] <JoshH99> @Folatt - Yep! After digging through a long log file on a tiny virtual console window lol
[06:15] <faust> dtscode: did you installed nodejs? If so try this: sudo ln -s /usr/bin/nodejs /usr/local/bin/node
[06:15] <dtscode> faust, i did. and yeah i just found that solution. thanks though :D
[06:15] <somsip> UncleJoe: so server 1 downloads to /media. And you want saves to /media to end up on sever 2. So you mount a drive from server 2 onto the mountpoint 'server 1 /media'. What are currntly using to access server 2? Samba?
[06:16] <UncleJoe> somsip: samba/cifs
[06:16] <faust> dtscode: you may also want to open a bug about this
[06:16] <faust> too late
[06:16] <Folatt> JoshH99, that's great. I should have known you could just check the syslog, since you said you have access to it.
[06:17] <JoshH99> @Folatt - Yeah. oh well. Hey - at least you gave me the morale boost to dig into the log. I probably would have just called it a night otherwise :).
[06:17] <somsip> UncleJoe: IIRC Samba is slow, and my network saves are abysmally slow to a NTFS Samba mount. Maybe a different network mount filesystme would be better for you? Like NFS or SSHFS
[06:17] <Folatt> JoshH99, no problem and good night!
[06:18] <fil10> hello everyone, i have some question about lubuntu. can i ask here,guys?
[06:18] <UncleJoe> somsip: Yeah- I think it is NTFS on (1) and (2) has EXT4
[06:19] <UncleJoe> (2) is using cifs though
[06:19] <somsip> UncleJoe: IME writes to NTFS over Samba are very slow. Dunno about reads. Still, Samba might not be your only (or your best) solution. Like I said
[06:21] <UncleJoe> Time for some researching... THANK YOU somsip. Appreciate the time.
[06:21] <UncleJoe> :)
[06:21] <somsip> UncleJoe: np
[06:24] <Nexuus> just upgraded...Vivid seems quite a bit more responsive than 14.10.
[06:27] <pragomer> hello. is there a special channel where I could ask a question about remastering ubuntu?
[06:28] <somsip> !remaster | pragomer
[06:28] <penos> hello
[06:28] <pragomer> Just got a specific basic problem / question. Items I copy to "skel" are ignored.. doing the remaster "manually".
[06:29] <pragomer> Such as /home/skel/.config/xfce4/panel/
[06:35] <pragomer> .
[06:36] <alex53454322> i have added an "ufw deny from ip.add.ress", but my apache server is still getting smashed by it. any ideas?
[06:37] <alex53454322> does the ufw order matter?
[06:39] <penos> hello my friends
[06:40] <hululu> Hi all! I just have installed Ubuntu 15.04, I really like it, but I found a bug. On the first boot my computer connect to the WiFi network, however there is no internet connection. I need to re-connect manually every first boot. Is sombeody experience this problem too?
[06:43] <euxneks> howdy, ubuntu won’t show me a login screen after updating to 15.04
[06:44] <euxneks> All I see is a purple screen with “Ubuntu” in the middle and 5 orange dots below it
[06:44] <euxneks> what logs can I look at to figure out what went wrong?
[06:44] <faust> !ask | pragomer
[06:45] <pragomer> Thanks and sorry ubottu
[06:45] <pragomer> !patience
[06:49] <Exxodus> Hey, so I need some serious technical help. >.>
[06:49] <somsip> !details | Exxodus
[06:50] <Exxodus> I seem to have lost Nautilus on my main log-in and cannot seem to repair it through apt-get
[06:51] <Exxodus> I'm actually using a friend's PC so that I can troubleshoot in real-time.
[06:51] <Exxodus> Basically, my apt-get keeps giving me a 404, Ubuntu keeps experiencing an internal error, and I cannot, for the life of me, get ubuntu to update.
[06:51] <Exxodus> Oh, and my desktop doesn't load either.
[06:52] <somsip> Exxodus: a 404? Have you tried using different sources?
[06:52] <Exxodus> I can do that?
[06:52] <somsip> Exxodus: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/CommandLine
[06:53] <Exxodus> Alright, I'll try that.
[06:54] <somsip> !pm | Exxodus (and what version of ubuntu are you running?)
[06:55] <Exxodus> I'm presently using Ubuntu 12.10 on a HP computer with a Grub 2.0 dualboot.
[06:55] <somsip> !2.10
[06:55] <somsip> !12.10
[06:55] <somsip> Exxodus: so, that's not supported anymore. You need to update
[06:55] <steve> fresh install of 15.04, first reboot, ctrl-alt-t doesn't work
[06:55] <steve> it's set to open a terminal
[06:55] <steve> anybody seen this?
[06:56] <Exxodus> somsip: Right, but I cannot seem to get a reboot to prompt? Am I able to update from Terminal?
[06:56] <rahul_> can we use lxd container hypervisor to manage docker containers?
[06:58] <somsip> !eol | Exxodus (I think the link is on here)
[06:58] <faust> rahul_: I think that latest versions of docker are not based on lxc anymore, if you want to use lxc you better not use docker
[06:58] <faust> probably you better not use docker anyway
[06:58] <faust> :P
[06:58] <rahul_> k
[06:59] <Exxodus> ubottu: I don't have a preference. I'd just like for my OS to work.
[07:00] <somsip> Exxodus: have a read through the last link See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EOLUpgrades
[07:00] <Exxodus> somsip: reading over Thank you.
[07:00] <kamil7> hi guys, where will be possibility to install 3.19 on trusty through LTS Enablement stack?
[07:01] <somsip> kamil7: details may be on here https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kernel/LTSEnablementStack
[07:03] <kamil7> somsip: thanks
[07:03] <hd1> hmm... it would seem that ssh on trusty is messed up
[07:04] <Ben64> hd1: it isn't
[07:07] <hd1> Ben64: http://pastebin.com/iYKbaEYB
[07:07] <somsip> hd1: are you running OSX?
[07:07] <euxneks> so, I can ssh into my machine but I cannot log in because there is no graphical login screen (just a purple screen with Ubuntu and 5 orange dots) and I cannot switch to any TTY. I have just recently upgraded to 15.04
[07:07] <euxneks> I mean, I can log in with ssh
[07:10] <hd1> somsip: irrelevant, i get the same from freebsd and netbsd and openbsd
[07:10] <faust> Is "http://packages.ubuntu.com/" search in package contents broken?
[07:11] <hd1> but, yes, that pastebin is from my laptop running os
[07:11] <somsip> hd1: so you are saying this is down to sshd daemon on ubuntu?
[07:11] <hd1> x
[07:11] <hd1> somsip: that's the only thing i can think of, unless it's an ec2 problem
[07:12] <somsip> hd1: and when did you last successfuly connect to that server via SSH?
[07:12] <hd1> which is unlikely because the server i'm chatting from is also on ec2
[07:12] <hd1> somsip: 4-5 hours ago?
[07:12] <hd1> i can still access the webpage
[07:13] <somsip> hd1: so you are saying it's must be something that has broken on Ubuntu SSHD in the last 4-5 hours?
[07:14] <hd1> somsip: no, like I said, it may be something to do with the zone or the server or ubuntu's sshd, i'm just trying to narrow things down
[07:14] <murcha> i blocked an ip from accessing my webserver using ufw/ubuntu 14.04, but i saw that the ip accesses my server from log file
[07:15] <somsip> hd1: given the version of sshd that server is running, it has probably not been updated for some time. Current is >1.0 IIRC. I suggest you contact the service provider before claiming that it's an OS problem per se
[07:15] <Exxodus> somsip: Could you provide that EOLU link again?
[07:16] <somsip> Exxodus: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EOLUpgrades
[07:17] <Exxodus> So, here's an issue: I have no windows, no way to resize things and no desktop.
[07:17] <hd1> somsip: 6.2p2 is what the server is running, idiot
[07:17] <Exxodus> I can still run progras, but I am not able to resize windows either.
[07:17] <somsip> Exxodus: sounds like it's really messed up. Is anything stopping you from reinstalling a current version?
[07:17] <hd1> which you would know, if you'd LOOKED at the pastebin I provided, instead of being a knowitall git
[07:18] <Exxodus> Nothing that I'm aware of... short of my repositories not being up to date. Would that EOL thing work?
[07:18] <blz> Hello, how do I export a variable such that it is available from `sh` ?
[07:18] <jango42> video card maybe Exxodus incompatible
[07:18] <hd1> if you're going to be the latter, just say so, because being idiotic about things is a waste of both of our times
[07:18] <hd1> got it, punk?
[07:18] <Ben64> hd1: that attitude will get you exactly nowhere. if you look at the paste again, "OSSLShim 0.9.8r 8 Dec 2011"
[07:18] <somsip> Exxodus: if it's very broken now, an upgrade might not mend it. It might, but maybe a clean start would be better
[07:18] <Exxodus> Well, how could I clean start?
[07:19] <Exxodus> GRUB won't let me boot anything from start-up
[07:19] <Exxodus> And it doesn't seem broken. I created another account and it works fine.
[07:19] <somsip> Exxodus: download an ISO for a supported version, install it while reformatting everything. Perhaps save any data off first
[07:19] <Exxodus> Full desktop and everything.
[07:19] <Exxodus> Yeah, I have an ISO.
[07:19] <blz> I ask because adding `export MYVAR=/path/to/whatever` in .bashrc only works for bash (unsurprisingly...)
[07:19] <somsip> Exxodus: your call, your system, you know what you can see and what you can't. Either EOLU or reinstall from scratch
[07:20] <Exxodus> Right, but is it possible to reinstall from terminal?
[07:20] <somsip> Exxodus: no harm in trying EOLU and it it fails, reinstall from an ISO
[07:20] <hd1> Ben664: that's an up-to-date trusty, I don't care to compile things from scratch unless I have to
[07:20] <Exxodus> Alright.
[07:20] <hd1> again, as of the last time I got into the box
[07:21] <Ben64> hd1: it isn't up to date, which is why somsip said it wasn't. but instead you decided to start getting all snarky
[07:21] <somsip> Ben64: I just picked the right time to /ignore I think...
[07:21] <fidel_> hi - i do run 14.04 with 2 NVIDIA cards. First card has 2 displays attached - which do display "X screen 0". to the second NV-card i attached 1 display which runs "X screen 1". This works so far. My current problem with this setup is: the display/Xscreen1 is just black - giving a simple mouse-cursor and i cant do anything on it.
[07:21] <hd1> Ben64: no, somsips said that openssh wasn't up-to-date
[07:21] <jango42> any problems with 15.04?
[07:22] <hd1> which is ipso facto incorrect
[07:22] <Ben64> hd1: have fun with that
[07:22] <fidel_> i do run gnome if thats important in that context. How to make X screen 1 display the same gnome session aswell?
[07:22] <euxneks> how do I enable switching to TTYs in ubuntu 15.04?
[07:23] <hd1> euxneks: remote or local?
[07:23] <somsip> !text | euxneks (is this what you want?)
[07:23] <euxneks> Local machine, I wish to be able to ctrl+alt+f2 to get a TTY
[07:25] <jango42> euxneks try f1 through to f6 from memory
[07:25] <euxneks> jango42: what does “from memory” mean? I have already tried ctrl+alt+f1 through to f6, but I don’t get a TTY
[07:26] <euxneks> I assume this is something disabled in ubuntu :\
[07:26] <hd1> euxneks: pastebin /etc/ttys
[07:26] <jango42> Euxneks : ok what run level are you after ?
[07:27] <Exxodus> Okay. everytime I try to install something, I get 'failed to fetch'
[07:28] <Exxodus> That seems like a big deal. >.>
[07:28] <euxneks> hd1: there is no file nor directory names ttys or something like that
[07:28] <euxneks> jango42: user level
[07:28] <euxneks> jango42: I’m not sure what runlevel that is :\
[07:28] <somsip> Exxodus: are you still trying to do something with 12.10 repos? Stop, stop. They're already dead.
[07:28] <Exxodus> Well, I'm trying to upgrade. >.>
[07:28] <somsip> Exxodus: following the EOLU guide?
[07:28] <Exxodus> Yes.
[07:29] <hd1> euxneks: /etc/getty?
[07:29] <somsip> Exxodus: and what CODENAME did you replace in your sources.list ?
[07:29] <Exxodus> But it tells me aptitude is not found.
[07:29] <Exxodus> quantal
[07:30] <somsip> That's 12.10. That's dead. Try using a supported version
[07:30] <hd1> Ben64: what you and your idiot friend were whinging about earlier is the LOCAL version of openssl/openssh, not the remote version
[07:30] <euxneks> hd1: I have a “britty”
[07:30] <rockcoco> is there any app can edit PPT?
[07:30] <somsip> !libreoffice | rockcoco
[07:31] <Exxodus> somsip: I'm aware that it is dead. I'm trying to upgrade to something -not- dead.
[07:31] <hd1> and like I said, it is irrelevant, as I have the same problem with an up-to-date ssh version as well
[07:31] <rockcoco> cool
[07:31] <Exxodus> But it also doesn't recognize deb as a command.
[07:31] <somsip> Exxodus: then use CODENAME of a current supported version, not a dead one. Trusty is 14.04 and it's LTS.
[07:31] <euxneks> hd1: I have a number of tty#.conf files in /etc/init/
[07:31] <somsip> Exxodus: you should be editing that file, not running the commands in terminal
[07:32] <Exxodus> Oh.
[07:32] <Exxodus> How would I access that? Hrm.
[07:32] <euxneks> again I am running Ubuntu 15.04, recent upgrade, cannot login with graphical login screen, I can ssh into the machine, the screen I have is a purple screen with ubuntu logo
[07:33] <somsip> Exxodus: "that file" being accessed with "sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list"
[07:33] <rockcoco> why i can't connect to the sever
[07:33] <somsip> !details | rockcoco
[07:33] <KindOne> So, updated my ubuntu vps, any ideas as to why I'm stuck in 'read-only' mode, /var/log/dmesg http://sprunge.us/CUjI ; /var/log/boot.log http://sprunge.us/OiZN
[07:33] <rockcoco> i can't download it
[07:33] <skapism> on ubuntu server 14.04.02, is there any way to verify that cron is running the /etc/cron.d/php5 job?
[07:34] <somsip> rockcoco: "server"...."it".... these are not helpful. Explain more and you may get help
[07:34] <somsip> skapism: have a look at /var/log/syslog
[07:35] <skapism> somsip: I have, I see only 3 lines, reporting INFO, STARTUP, and another INFO (running @reboot jobs)
[07:35] <skapism> pgrep cron gives me a pid, so it's running
[07:36] <somsip> skapism: so you have no syslog entry that contains php5 at all? For current syslog or last syslog.1?
[07:37] <skapism> somsip: nope. I have waited over 30 minutes, so the script (it's the default one from the package) should have run at least once
[07:37] <somsip> skapism: depends - there is one old script that was nasty and caused me problems. what version of ubuntu?
[07:38] <skapism> 14.04.2 lts, ubuntu server
[07:39] <somsip> skapism: have a read and check yours. Maybe run it manually and watch for issues in top while doing so https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/php5/+bug/1356113
[07:40] <skapism> somsip: thing is, I've run the script manually as root, it returns quickly, does its job, no problems
[07:42] <skapism> somsip: nevermind, it appears the cronjob is running. I have appended >> /var/log/phpcleanup.log to the cron line, and now that file is showing up
[07:42] <somsip> skapism: k
[07:42] <skapism> somsip: I just wonder why cron doesn't log the job itself
[07:42] <skapism> somsip: maybe it's by design in this case?
[07:43] <somsip> skapism: nah - shows up in my deskstop syslog and the first server I checked too. No idea why it isn't in yours. Is syslog current? Does it have the right permissions? Has logrotate dont something nasty to it? Moot questions maybe...
[07:45] <skapism> somsip: all packages are up to date, I'm not sure about logrotate though
[07:45] <somsip> skapism: it shouldn't do something like that. but no real ideas and clutching at possibles
[07:46] <skapism> somsip: well, logrotate wasn't installed. I just installed it
[07:47] <somsip> skapism: well, good luck. have to afk now
[07:47] <skapism> somsip: thank you for your help
[07:47] <somsip> np
[07:47] <euxneks> has anyone upgraded to 15.04 yet?
[07:57] <duncannz> on
[08:12] <Folatt> Hello there
[08:14] <beluga_> I installed open-vm-tools on Ubuntu 15.04, but how can I run it? This doesn't say https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VMware/Tools
[08:18] <Folatt> Why do you need VMWare?
[08:21] <beluga_> Folatt: I'm running Ubuntu in VMWare
[08:21] <bett> i just upgraded my os from 12.04lts to 14.04, am realising this on has a single workspace unlike the former with four, how do i increase the number of workspaces?
[08:22] <Folatt> Ahhh... and your main OS is?
[08:22] <trijntje> bett: settinngs -> appearance
[08:22] <beluga_> I installed 14.10 last year in VMWare, because I thought that was the only way to run a 64-bit version, but now I noticed Virtualbox does support 64-bit guests..
[08:22] <beluga_> Windows 7 is the host
[08:22] <geirha> odd, it overwrote your configuration from 12.04?
[08:23] <beluga_> ah I just solved it!
[08:23] <beluga_> sudo apt-get install open-vm-tools-desktop
[08:23] <beluga_> ^that fixed it.. now copy-paste works between guest & host!
[08:24] <bett> trijntje: let me check it out
[08:24] <Folatt> beluga_, I don't understand what you're doing. It sound like you run Ubuntu in VMWare and are installing VMWare in Ubuntu. Are you going to run VMWare in VMWare?
[08:25] <beluga_> Folatt: don't worry, it works now .. ([11:22] <beluga_> Windows 7 is the host)
[08:25] <Folatt> Okay, good luck!
[08:26] <beluga_> Folatt: I'm doing bug testing for LibreOffice :) look who is the top1 closer https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/page.cgi?id=weekly-bug-summary.html
[08:27] <Folatt> beluga_, good job!
[08:27] <Folatt> <- is nowhere near that skill level. Came here for my own set of problems.
[08:28] <gioans> hello
[08:28] <beluga_> Folatt: well I'm not particularly skilled, more of a generalist.. most bugs are very straightforward to test.. we simply confirm that some glitch happens!
[08:29] <gioans> i am a new ubuntu, and my ubuntu version is 15.04
[08:30] <gioans> i need everybody help me
[08:30] <Folatt> gioans, okay, what seems to be the problem gioans?
[08:31] <gioans> i install mycrosoft fonts (*.ttf), after that, i ơpen internet browser, is error fonts,
[08:31] <Folatt> Which internet browser?
[08:32] <gioans> firefox and operamini
[08:32] <gioans> firefox and opera
[08:32] <bett> i just upgraded my os from 12.04lts to 14.04, am realising this on has a single workspace unlike the former with four, how do i increase the number of workspaces?
[08:32] <Folatt> gioans, can you give the exact name of the package you installed?
[08:33] <Stanley00> gioans: please take a screenshot and paste it to imgur.com
[08:33] <gioans> ttf-mscorefonts-installer
[08:33] <Folatt> bett, did you find the setting?
[08:34] <trijntje> bett: system settings -> appearance -> behaviour, check 'workspace switcher'
[08:35] <bett> @Follat year i have checked on appearance settings but am not seeing the option to increase the number of workspaces
[08:35] <Folatt> bett, trijntje just told you, do you need me to send you a screenshot?
[08:36] <Folatt> gioans, what do you mean by error fonts, can you send a screenshot?
[08:37] <gioans> where ?
[08:37] <Stanley00> gioans: imgur.com
[08:38] <SaintMoriarty> can anyone help I am trying to install django and its failing http://pastebin.ca/2980074
[08:38] <bett> @follat, trijintje, yea please do that, in my appearance settings am only seeing the option for changing wallpaper,resizing of icons and changing of theme
[08:39] <Folatt> bett, that's the first tab, there's one besides Look, called Behaviour.
[08:40] <bett> #Follat thanks i have seen it, aloha man..
[08:41] <bett> #trijintje thanks man,
[08:42] <Folatt> I think trijntje is a woman.
[08:42] <Folatt> <- is Dutch too
[08:46] <ubuntu770> hi
[08:46] <ubuntu770> question:
[08:47] <gioans> Screenshot from 2015-04-24 15:42:46.png
[08:47] <gioans> it is the name immage i upload ti imgur.com
[08:47] <Luyin> gioans: that's not a screenshot
[08:47] <ubuntu770> if i install dual boot, ubuntu and win 7. in the setup of ubuntu i have to resize the partitions. what is the ubuntu partition and what win 7, left or right ?
[08:48] <k1l> gioans: we need the url
[08:49] <murcha> why ufw is not blocking ips in ubuntu 14?
[08:49] <k1l> murcha: why should it? can you explain more?
[08:50] <Atom747> moin
[08:50] <hackal> Hello, please where can I check under which user is my apache2 webserver running?
[08:51] <faust> hackal: ps
[08:52] <murcha> k1l: I used sudo ufw insert 1 deny out to IP and sudo ufw insert 1 deny IP to block some ips from accessing my webserver. I disabled and enabled the ufw. But when i look at log file, the ips are accessing my webserver.
[08:53] <gioans> http://i.imgur.com/E497Sha.png
[08:56] <k1l> murcha: "sudo ufw deny from <ip_address> to any "
[08:57] <k1l> sudo ufw status #to test if its enabled at all
[08:58] <murcha> k1l: thanks i am issuing you suggestion
[08:59] <hackal> faust: thank you
[09:00] <phpcoder> hello everybody
[09:01] <phpcoder> i just donwload java jdk e jre
[09:01] <phpcoder> i put it in my home dir
[09:01] <phpcoder> now i think i should add global path
[09:01] <phpcoder> how can i do that?
[09:01] <svetlana> why
[09:01] <svetlana> why not install it from the repos
[09:01] <murcha> k1l: I did the way you explained, but still i see the ip accessing my webserver
[09:02] <kevinwincott> has anyone had problems with unity lenses in ubunut 15.04
[09:02] <phpcoder> svetlana, are you talking to me?
[09:02] <kevinwincott> i dont seem to get the option to add them when i visit the web pages, eg launchpad, twitter, bbc news
[09:03] <phpcoder> svetlana, openjdk ?
[09:04] <k1l> phpcoder: java is in the officila repos. install that
[09:04] <phpcoder> k1l, how can i check what java version ?
[09:05] <k1l> "apt search java" phpcoder
[09:05] <faust> well oracle's java is not in the repos
[09:05] <k1l> phpcoder: openjdk-8-jdk for example
[09:06] <phpcoder> there are big differences ?
[09:06] <phpcoder> oracle <-> openjdk
[09:07] <k1l> murcha: what gives you "sudo ufw status verbose" please out that into a pastebin
[09:08] <murcha> k1l: something like this http://paste.ubuntu.com/10877219/
[09:11] <k1l> murcha: i am not sure the "in" should be printed there
[09:11] <k1l> murcha: what command did you use exactly to block 87.253.132.201?
[09:12] <murcha> k1l: something like this sudo ufw insert 1 deny from 87.253.132.201 to any
[09:12] <k1l> murcha: with "something like" we cant find the error. please the exact line
[09:13] <murcha> k1l: sudo ufw insert 1 deny from 87.253.132.201 to any
[09:13] <phpcoder> k1l, i am installing jre and jdk
[09:13] <k1l> murcha: why the "insert 1"?
[09:13] <phpcoder> i hope there are not too many different with the official oracle
[09:13] <phpcoder> packages
[09:13] <murcha> k1l: because it should be the first row
[09:14] <phpcoder> guys pardon for the stupid question, but how can i check if there are drivers or other packages that i can install to best fix my hardware components?
[09:15] <k1l> phpcoder: see at "system settings" then "software and updates" then the last tab
[09:15] <phpcoder> for example i have AMD A10-5800K APU with Radeon(tm) HD Graphics × 4
[09:15] <phpcoder> ok
[09:18] <k1l> murcha: dont know.
[09:21] <_xer> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HowtoPartition/PartitioningBasics this not give me enough information about guided - use entire disk or set up lvm
[09:21] <_xer> Thanks
[09:22] <Ben64> _xer: what is your question
[09:23] <k1l> honestly: for beginners i dont suggest lvm.
[09:23] <_xer> ubuntu server- I'm instaling it. I don't know what is recommended. Guided/manual/with lvm.
[09:23] <_xer> Thanks i will go for guided entire disk
[09:24] <_xer> i select detect network hardware and configure the network.. Will I able to use the network?
[09:24] <_xer> Installed the system - exciting..
[09:28] <rydzykje> Hey guys, I have a problem with java from RPM on Ubuntu. I've converted RPM to DEB by Alien and installed by DPKG -i $file.deb. After installation/reboot when I write: java -version im receving error "Error occurred during initialization of VM java/lang/NoClassDefFoundError: java/lang/Object" any ideas?
[09:29] <k1l> rydzykje: why did you start with a .rpm at all?
[09:30] <Seveas> rydzykje: yeah, that's messed up. Delete that package and install java the normal way.
[09:30] <rydzykje> My goal is to have few possibilites to install java - tar, apt, deb, yum, rpm
[09:31] <rydzykje> Can I find somewhere java oracle deb package?
[09:31] <Seveas> rydzykje: sudo apt-get install openjdk-7-jre
[09:32] <rydzykje> Seveas: not openJDK but Oracle Java :)
[09:32] <k1l> rydzykje: that is just making it more difficult than it should be
[09:32] <k1l> rydzykje: oracle provides .deb., ubuntu uses .deb. so use .deb
[09:32] <escargotdu25> hi kll and petrvs
[09:33] <k1l> hi
[09:33] <_xer> I press 'esc' and then go to 'finish installtion' again and it said to format. What does it mean, affect on my files?
[09:34] <k1l> escargotdu25: you can use the "tab" key to autocomplete the nicks. like writing "k1" and then press tab
[09:34] <escargotdu25> i went to ubuntu-fr channel
[09:34] <escargotdu25> oups
[09:35] <escargotdu25> k1l, ok
[09:35] <k1l> escargotdu25: and that works on the terminal for commands and paths too :)
[09:36] <chotaz`w> 15.04 broke my mysql packages, they are reporting as 'half-installed' and outing errors whenever I try to upgrade them. How can I go about fixing this?
[09:36] <escargotdu25> k1l, ok thanks i have a question that i did not have response on ubuntu-fr channel
[09:37] <k1l> !paste | chotaz`w put the whole errors there
[09:38] <_xer> I don't understand. If I click esc when I was in ubuntu-server install do I need to repeat all I did?
[09:38] <_xer> :(
[09:39] <chotaz`w> http://paste.ubuntu.com/10877356/
[09:39] <chotaz`w> _xer, why would u randomly push a button, that's the real question :P
[09:40] <escargotdu25> k1l, my question is i cannot use the instant messenger hello (firefox) i do see myself on the cam but cannot contact any person or see any person talking
[09:40] <k1l> escargotdu25: i am not familiar with the messenger from firefox
[09:40] <_xer> chotaz'w: It's not that. It say now(im in terminal) please insert the disc labeled. Before it told me to make sure you eject the disc :/
[09:41] <escargotdu25> k1l, ok no problem is skype fonctionning with ubuntu ?
[09:41] <_xer> But I have connection
[09:41] <k1l> escargotdu25: yes. install it from the partner repo
[09:41] <k1l> !skype | escargotdu25
[09:41] <chotaz`w> !ekiga
[09:42] <_xer> why when im in regular user i can't install openssh but when i go to root I need to enter the disc labeled.
[09:42] <Folatt> !VPS
[09:42] <k1l> _xer: what are you doing there at all?
[09:43] <k1l> _xer: run the installer to the end. reboot afterwards. done
[09:43] <_xer> Setup ubuntu-server for ssh then I can have linux with my OS and reading the book doing practical :D
[09:43] <_xer> k1l:
[09:44] <chotaz`w> you don't need the whole server if you're only looking for ssh capabiliteis
[09:44] <k1l> chotaz`w: sudo apt-get install -f #try that
[09:44] <k1l> _xer: did you install ubuntu server or not?
[09:44] <_xer> chotaz'w: I couldn't use my raspberry pi for my needs. I have no doubt ubuntu server will help.
[09:44] <_xer> k1l: I installed ubuntu server. (completed). Problem with setup ssh.
[09:45] <k1l> _xer: i dont understand what you are doing there and what the ubuntu issue is right now
[09:45] <chotaz`w> k1l, http://paste.ubuntu.com/10877378/
[09:45] <k1l> _xer: you need "sudo apt-get install packagename" to install packages. the user has no permissions to install packages without sudo
[09:46] <_xer> I enter that: $ sudo apt-get install openssh-server openssh-client . And it told me about media change: please insert the disc labeled.
[09:47] <chotaz`w> k1l, running force install retrieved exactly the same problem, an I just nuke mysql-* packaged with purge and re-install?
[09:47] <chotaz`w> s/an/can
[09:47] <k1l> _xer: please show a "cat /etc/apt/sources.list" in a pastebin
[09:47] <chotaz`w> !pastebinit
[09:47] <k1l> _xer: on the server install ssh should be installed as default anyway
[09:48] <k1l> chotaz`w: there seems to have been an issue before while removing it, and now it complains because it wants to remove stuff that got removed already
[09:49] <_xer> k1l: http://pastebin.com/SnADUTPd
[09:50] <k1l> _xer: seems like you did make mistakes while installing. it only got the cdrom as repo enabled. and not the repo servers
[09:50] <_xer> I guess reinstall lmao.. I did 4 reinstall already
[09:51] <k1l> chotaz`w: "sudo dpkg --purge --force-all mysql-server-5.6"
[09:51] <_xer> It's like one mistake will ruin all
[09:51] <Ben64> _xer: what are you using to install, what are you installing on, its a pretty straightforward install, what are you doing to mess it up?
[09:51] <chotaz`w> _xer, how come you keep baffling up the install?
[09:52] <chotaz`w> run the media, say yes to the installer and just let it run through?
[09:52] <_xer> I'm installing ubuntu 64-bit server using VMware Player.
[09:52] <chotaz`w> VirtualBox is a friend :)
[09:52] <_xer> No!! I have like choose language/keyboard/detect and mount cd-rom options/ execute a shell/ load installer comonents from cd
[09:53] <_xer> It's not ubuntu desktop. It's a server
[09:53] <chotaz`w> _xer, http://www.osboxes.org/ubuntu/ grabv a vm from here, will be easier :)
[09:54] <chotaz`w> k1l, same ol'same :(
[09:54] <_xer> thanks but i want to have experience doing it
[09:54] <chotaz`w> i really have no ideia how the upgrade messed this up, might be because I had to to manually add some repos for the python connectors?
[09:55] <k1l> chotaz`w: ok, lets try a trick
[09:55] <chotaz`w> eaither way the upgrade disables third party repos before anything else, so I don't see how that could've been the problem.
[09:56] <k1l> chotaz`w: "touch ~/trick.sh" then "sudo ln -fs ~/trick.sh /usr/share/mysql-common/configure-symlinks" then "sudo apt-get autoremove"
[09:56] <phpmiddleman> how can I recursively use asciidoc on folder to generate .html files from all .asciidoc files?
[09:57] <k1l> _xer: a server install is pretty easy. just go for the installer, make sure the vm-guest got network connection.
[09:57] <chotaz`w> no mysql-common there, only mysql , -apt-config and -workbench
[09:58] <k1l> chotaz`w: it tries to remove that one and cant find it. so we need to fake it
[09:58] <chotaz`w> ah, my bad x)
[09:58] <k1l> chotaz`w: its like it got removed in the first uninstall attempt that was blocked. and now wants to remove stuff that already was removed and is complaining
[09:58] <_xer> k1;It's easy for you to say that
[09:59] <chotaz`w> _xer, when you get it right, you'll see how easy it is for yourself
[10:00] <k1l> _xer: it sounds to me that you are making it more difficult than it should be. if you have specific questions we can try to work that out
[10:01] <_xer> k1l: what is the different version ubuntu 14.04 and 15.04 which should I go for?
[10:01] <k1l> for server definetly 14.04 since its lts
[10:01] <_xer> ok
[10:02] <k1l> !lts | _xer
[10:02] <chotaz`w> k1l, done! created the folder -> touched the file -> chmod 777 -> apt-get autoremove
[10:02] <chotaz`w> the symlink by itself did not work
[10:08] <_xer> still not work.. :/
[10:08] <escargotdu25> k1l, i downloaded but can"t install it
[10:08] <k1l> what does not work?
[10:08] <k1l> escargotdu25: you dont need to download.
[10:08] <k1l> escargotdu25: you need to enable the partner repo and just install it from software center then.
[10:08] <_xer> It gives me media message same before...
[10:09] <_xer> Something about repo :/
[10:09] <k1l> escargotdu25: go to "systemsettings" then to "software and updates", then 2nd tab "other software" and check the both lines which say "canonical partner"
[10:09] <k1l> _xer: details matter
[10:10] <k1l> _xer: are you sure you got vmware setup the right way? is network given to the ubuntu?
[10:10] <_xer> k1l: It's read from the disc. Not like it using ubuntu repo..
[10:10] <_xer> k1l: there is a network.
[10:10] <k1l> _xer: yes, so it doesnt get network?
[10:11] <k1l> _xer: i dont know what you do there all the time. i can only guess from what you tell me. i did install a lot of server images and the installer does work. so please make sure your vmware guest got internet connection.
[10:11] <_xer_> I have network.
[10:12] <_xer_> I need to do this? http://askubuntu.com/questions/529/how-to-set-up-an-apt-repository
[10:13] <k1l> _xer_: no
[10:13] <k1l> the installer does all the work if you give him internet access
[10:13] <_xer_> I did.
[10:14] <_xer_> I can ping but it's read from the disc :/ .. You don't understand me or you don't know. One from both.
[10:15] <k1l> _xer_: again: you are making a lot of issues yourself: see this pictured howto: http://askubuntu.com/questions/340965/how-do-i-install-ubuntu-server-step-by-step
[10:15] <k1l> it is very very very very easy. you dont need to make apt repos or install ssh on your own. just follow the installer as shown in the pictures
[10:16] <escargotdu25> k1l, i just did it and it does not work
[10:16] <_xer_> damn I didn't find it/ Thanks
[10:16] <k1l> escargotdu25: what does not work?
[10:16] <_xer_> Better to send now than before
[10:19] <_xer_> k1l: This is very very old ubuntu installer.
[10:19] <_xer_> Im in stage load installer comonents from cd
[10:20] <k1l> _xer_: what ubuntu are you installing there?
[10:20] <_xer_> 64 bit server 14
[10:20] <escargotdu25> k1l, it is said an error occured
[10:20] <k1l> or are you talking about the cli installer at all?
[10:21] <k1l> escargotdu25: please copy the error message and put it on paste.ubuntu.com and show the link in here
[10:22] <dzan> hi, howcome when I installed something using pip (python) I can't execute it?
[10:22] <escargotdu25> k1l, it says in french : Erreur lors de l'analyse du CD
[10:22] <escargotdu25> Impossible de trouver un CD adéquat
[10:22] <oddeyed> Is there a guide anywhere to recovering from Deja Dup when my machine has failed?
[10:23] <k1l> escargotdu25: on the system settings for updates. make sure the "CD" lines are unchecked on the 2nd tab
[10:24] <escargotdu25> k1l, in english it means error when analysing the cd and impossible to find an adequat cd
[10:26] <_xer_> i didnt receive choose repo.. k1l: Do you even know how to install ubuntu server?
[10:26] <k1l> _xer_: what are you talking about?
[10:26] <_xer_> k1l: I don't think you have experience in ubuntu server
[10:27] <k1l> _xer_: m(
[10:27] <_xer> what is m(
[10:28] <escargotdu25> k1l, in updates only trusty-proposed is unchecked and there is no question of cds
[10:28] <k1l> escargotdu25: 2nd tab
[10:30] <escargotdu25> k1l, 2nd tab is called other softwares and all options are checked
[10:30] <k1l> escargotdu25: yes. that is the problem
[10:31] <k1l> uncheck the the line with "CD"
[10:32] <rydzykje> guys where can I find java direcotry installed by apt-get install?
[10:33] <escargotdu25> k1l, there is no line with cd, only canonical partners, idem with code source, independant, and idem with code source
[10:33] <k1l> escargotdu25: is this a live cd system?
[10:33] <escargotdu25> k1l, what do you mean ?
[10:34] <k1l> escargotdu25: is this a ubuntu install? or is this a live system running form usb or cd?
[10:34] <BluesKaj> Hiyas all
[10:34] <_war10ck_> BluesKaj: Hello to you too
[10:35] <_xer> iits so easy to download the vmware ready but the installer is harder
[10:35] <_xer> this is so stupid it's not server!!
[10:35] <_xer> k1l: omg
[10:35] <escargotdu25> k1l, in fact i downloaded the ubuntu from the website and burned a dvd with the .iso file and then re-runned my pc on the dvd
[10:35] <_xer> this is ubuntu desktop
[10:35] <BluesKaj> Hi _war10ck_
[10:36] <k1l> escargotdu25: did you install ubuntu onto the disk in the pc or is it just running from the dvd?
[10:36] <escargotdu25> k1l, i installed it on the hard disk
[10:38] <k1l> escargotdu25: ok. this is to complicated. lets open up a terminal with "ctrl+alt+t"
[10:38] <k1l> escargotdu25: after that please do a "sudo apt-get install pastebinit"
[10:39] <_xer> What is: choose-mirror / download-installer/ openssh-client-udeb ..
[10:39] <_xer> What do I choose?
[10:39] <k1l> _xer: dont blame ubuntu, dont blame me. i just installed a 14.04.2 ubuntu server to prove you wrong. you are doing the mess.
[10:39] <_xer> k1l: answer ...
[10:39] <_xer> Please.
[10:39] <k1l> _xer: wher is that at all? why dont you just click "install ubuntu-server" and follow the installer. it is like installing windows xp. just go forward.
[10:40] <k1l> _xer: what iso is that? what distro is that? that is surely not ubuntu
[10:43] <escargotdu25> k1l, i did what to said to me and let my pc running i have to go to lunch now see you soon
[10:47] <chotaz`w> k1l, package problems aside, my mysql is completly broke, aparrently the socket isn't configured or misbehaving, smth like that
[10:48] <chotaz`w> and I can't type today, that should explain some mysterious problems x)
[10:48] <JNixx_> d/quit
[10:48] <JNixx_> ls -l
[10:53] <yossarianuk> chotaz`w: are you storing your mysql data or logs in a non standard place ?
[10:53] <yossarianuk> if so potentially check apparmor rules
[10:54] <chotaz`w> yossarianuk, sorry, but I'm completly lost with what you just suggested, never had to do much fiddling with MySQL, the upgrade somehow broke and now I'm having a socket connection problem. I've checked /var/run/ and theres no mysqld folder
[10:54] <scott_> need help getting message saying error:attempt to read or write outside of disk 'hd0' entering rescue mode grub rescue on my Intel Desktop Board D865GLC but not on my hp nc6220 or my ECS GeForce6100PM-M2 and it a usb i want to boot that i made using multisystem
[10:55] <yossarianuk> chotaz`w: 1 I assume you have rebooted after ? I think the pid will now be in /run/ ?
[10:55] <yossarianuk> to check its not apparmor related try
[10:56] <yossarianuk> service apparmor stop
[10:56] <yossarianuk> service apparmor teardown
[10:56] <yossarianuk> service mysql restart
[10:57] <chotaz`w> yossarianuk, Failed to restart mysql.service: Unit mysql.service is masked.
[10:58] <yossarianuk> chotaz`w: ok restart apparmor then
[10:58] <yossarianuk> check the following logs (assuming they exist in 15.04)
[10:59] <yossarianuk> - /var/log/syslog - /var/log/mysql/error.log - dmesg
[11:00] <chotaz`w> yossarianuk, dmesg | grep "mysql" -> http://paste.ubuntu.com/10877708/
[11:01] <yossarianuk> sorry not 100% sure then - try reinstalling themysql server packages - i.e apt-get --reinstall install my....
[11:04] <Tsterxer> Hi
[11:04] <Tsterxer> Im in ubuntu 64 bit server menu. What to choose: choose-mirror, download-installer?
[11:04] <chotaz`w> yossarianuk, tried that, still "unit is masked" error. here's my syslog |grep "mysql" : http://paste.ubuntu.com/10877713/
[11:05] <chotaz`w> Ima do some googlign in the meanwhile, thanks for the time and input :)
[11:05] <leandro_> GOOOD MORNING
[11:06] <Tsterxer> morning ^
[11:07] <bja> how do I find out the device name of my current controlling terminal for usage with pgrep -t ?
[11:09] <BluesKaj> hmm, vivid security main repo is erroring as a hash sum mismatch
[11:10] <orakar> Would anyone mind mentioning me in a message so I can test my new client? Thanks!
[11:13] <Nooby_One> Looking for someone with some help on the HPLIP program... installed it, but am not able to connect my printer through it
[11:16] <BluesKaj> Nooby_One, does the print manager list your HP printer model ?
[11:16] <Tsterxer> please help
[11:17] <Tsterxer> download-installer or chose-mirror?
[11:19] <Tsterxer> What do I write in domain name?
[11:19] <tijnix> Tsterxer: what medium did you start the installer from?
[11:19] <Tsterxer> tijnix: what do you mean?
[11:19] <Nooby_One> @blueskaj... when i go to device manager and try to setup a device, it does not show any printer
[11:19] <tijnix> Tsterxer: From where do you start the installer?
[11:20] <Tsterxer> tijnix: I put ubuntu sever iso in vmware player.. And click on each line..
[11:20] <tijnix> Tsterxer: the full or the netinstall iso?
[11:20] <Tsterxer> full i think
[11:21] <nogoodnamesleft> How would you use the LVM installer and leave some of the disk unpartitioned? It does not seem configurable. It's a major hassle to resize later if you enable filesystem encryption.
[11:21] <Tsterxer> ubuntu-14.04.2-server-amd64.iso
[11:21] <tijnix> I dont think the full should ask for a mirror or download installer
[11:21] <Tsterxer> :/
[11:21] <Tsterxer> i did mirror
[11:23] <chotaz`w> k1l, still around?
[11:23] <Tsterxer> this is so annoying!!!
[11:23] <Tsterxer> all i try is ubuntu server
[11:24] <chotaz`w> yossarianuk, apparently my mysqld service is masked, I have no clue what that means or how to go around it, what's really puzzling me is not knowing how I got to this situation.
[11:24] <chotaz`w> all I did was upgrade overnight and when I got back to work, mysql was broke as hell
[11:25] <Tsterxer> please
[11:25] <Tsterxer> Only experienced people.
[11:25] <chotaz`w> Tsterxer, are you _xer? What's wrong right now.
[11:26] <Tsterxer> chotaz'w: please are you experienced? I did someone what he told and it's like 20nth reinstall... I struggle install ubuntu server. The mirror install didn't pop up
[11:26] <Tsterxer> I'm _xer
[11:27] <k1l> Tsterxer: please make a screenshot and show exactly where you are and what you try to do.
[11:27] <chotaz`w> Ok first things first, are you willing to start again? If so, tell em where you are trying to install the server and how are you trying to do so. I'm no ubuntu guru, but I've had my share of installations.
[11:27] <k1l> Tsterxer: are you sure you got the standard server iso? and not a pxe boot or netinstall?
[11:28] <Tsterxer> k1l: I did all you said before and you didn't make it better. I think you message me when someone does.
[11:28] <tijnix> ust what i asked :)
[11:28] <Tsterxer> No offense though
[11:28] <Tsterxer> Yes!!
[11:28] <tijnix> Did tons of server installs and never had the questions you had, only on a netinst
[11:28] <chotaz`w> Tsterxer, I'm not familiar with VMWare, if you're willing to try VirtualBox, I might be able to help.
[11:29] <Tsterxer> it told me if you installed from netinst CD and choose not to use a mirror you will end up with base system. Use network mirror?
[11:29] <k1l> Tsterxer: sorry. you cant even verify what iso you are on. i provided a pictured howto for you that is easy to follow. i even tried tha 14.04.2 install in virtualbox just to make sure there are no bugs. so its all on you not able to follow a easy installer
[11:29] <tijnix> Start fresh with a not-netinst?
[11:29] <Tsterxer> chotaz'w: That's not the software that's the installer. If you said it it's mean you don't have that experienced.
[11:29] <Tsterxer> But I want to install it
[11:30] <chotaz`w> k1l, what can you tell me about "service masking"? Apparently that's what preventing my mysqld from starting, after some short reading, stumbling upon the works systemd and such made me fear that my system might be more broken than just the mysql service, which aparrently is "masked".
[11:30] <k1l> Tsterxer: stop blaming other in here
[11:30] <chotaz`w> Tsterxer, you ahve to be willing to read and understand, what I said is that I'm not experienced with the visualization software you are using.
[11:30] <k1l> Tsterxer: its all your fault. experienced people try to help you. they do a lot of effort. but you are just messing around. so please get the facts straight and verify the questions asked and not just tell people they dont know anything
[11:31] <chotaz`w> s/visualization/virtualization
[11:31] <tijnix> Some help might be found here : https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/Netboot
[11:32] <k1l> Tsterxer: if you cant describe what you do then provide screenshots
[11:32] <thms> LOL @ Ubuntu 15
[11:32] <Mion> vmware should not be used for legal reasons
[11:32] <Tsterxer> I doubt you did it k1l: because the screenshots are outdated( there is more options in 14.04) . I prefer not to talk with you because you like to argue.
[11:32] <bazhang> Mion, thats not something for this channel
[11:32] <thms> New kernel won't make my UX303LA boot, not able to do go terminal ctrl alt f7 just this pink screen and my caps lock key blinking.
[11:32] <k1l> Tsterxer: i just verified the howto myself
[11:33] <Mion> thms: boot to single user mode and read the xorg log
[11:33] <k1l> Tsterxer: verify what iso you are actually using.
[11:33] <bazhang> Tsterxer, they are all volunteers here
[11:33] <thms> Mion: I'll do that later.
[11:33] <Tsterxer> k1l: I pasted it, please .
[11:33] <Tsterxer> k1l: ubuntu-14.04.2-server-amd64.iso
[11:33] <tijnix> What size is the iso?
[11:33] <bazhang> Tsterxer, if you are unwilling to answer basic questions, no help will be forthcoming
[11:33] <Tsterxer> ook at previous chat.
[11:33] <k1l> Tsterxer: what md5sum?
[11:33] <tijnix> haha
[11:33] <tijnix> sorry
[11:34] <k1l> Tsterxer: is it the full install or the netinstall? is it the pxe install? .....
[11:34] <Tsterxer> bazhang: you came now, I answered these questions.
[11:34] <Nooby_One> @BluesKaj... still there? ... when i go to device manager and try to setup a device, it does not show any printer
[11:34] <Tsterxer> k1l: I don't know about it.
[11:34] <k1l> Tsterxer: still a lot of open questions. but you keep telling people they cant help you
[11:34] <k1l> Tsterxer: so do a md5sum of the iso and look that up
[11:34] <chotaz`w> Tsterxer, Here's the thing. All the prople trying to help you here, using the same software and the same image would only need to pres next next next on the installation, which, by default is supposed to be pretty standard.
[11:34] <Tsterxer> k1l: please stop try "help", I don't wanna argue with you.
[11:35] * tijnix mumbles something about honey and vinigar
[11:35] * chotaz`w is shocked.
[11:35] <chotaz`w> I've never seen someone get muted here :x
[11:35] <EriC^> heh
[11:36] <chotaz`w> what can you guys tell me about "service masking"? Apparently that's what preventing my mysqld from starting, after some short reading, stumbling upon the works systemd and such made me fear that my system might be more broken than just the mysql service, which aparrently is "masked".
[11:36] <Nooby_One> anyone with help on HPLIP?
[11:37] <chotaz`w> 'sudo service mysql restart' outs "(...) unit mysql-service is masked" this started happening after having to force purge my mysql package that got broken(half-install) from upgrading
[11:37] <brainwash> chotaz`w: unmask the service then
[11:38] <chotaz`w> brainwash, I just felt uncomfortable with fiddling with systemd, which I know nothing about.
[11:38] <chotaz`w> I'll make some reading
[11:38] <chotaz`w> s/make/do
[11:39] <chotaz`w> brainwash, how can I check if other services are masked?
[11:39] <EriC^> chotaz`w, type ls -l /etc/systemd/system/*mysql*
[11:40] <chotaz`w> EriC^, there's mysql.service in there
[11:40] <EriC^> ok, is it a symlink to /dev/null ?
[11:40] <HoloIRCUser2> Hello. I've tried to upgrade to 15.04 and now I'm in emergency mode and can't boot to the desktop.
[11:41] <EriC^> emergency mode?
[11:41] <escargotdu25> k1l, hi i'm here again
[11:41] <escargotdu25> what should i do now ?
[11:41] <chotaz`w> EriC^, apparently yes. What could have caused this?
[11:41] <EriC^> chotaz`w, that's what masking a service means
[11:42] <HoloIRCUser2> EriC : that's what the console gave me. 'welcome to Emergency mode'.
[11:42] <EriC^> chotaz`w, type sudo rm /etc/systemd/system/mysql.service
[11:43] <EriC^> HoloIRCUser2, hmm did it say why?
[11:43] <BluesKaj> Nooby_One, did you install the hplip with the package manager ?
[11:43] <Nooby_One> I don't recall
[11:44] <chotaz`w> EriC^, I've done multiple reboots and apparently the service is started "masked", does that mean that something else is wrong or removing the symlink will fix it?
[11:44] <BluesKaj> open the package manager/software center and search for hplip, Nooby_One
[11:45] <HoloIRCUser2> EriC: no. Only have me commands to try to boot to default mode, but that doesn't work.
[11:45] <alxk> Hello!After upgrading to 15.04 it seems i cant connect on home wifi(open).The available networks are there but the connection always gets timed out according to dmesg.Guidance would be really appreciated!Thanks in advance
[11:45] <EriC^> chotaz`w, masking causes a service to not be started when the pc boots, and won't allow you to start it manually either
[11:46] <EriC^> i've no idea why it was masked, maybe someone will know hold on
[11:46] <thms> How do you Flush DNS cache ?
[11:47] <Nooby_One> software center: typed HP and shwed HPLIP toolbox (checked) and "reactivate HP laserjet 1018/1020 after reloading paper" (also checked)
[11:47] <thms> init.d/dns-clean ?
[11:47] <Nooby_One> *showed
[11:48] <chotaz`w> EriC^, http://paste.ubuntu.com/10878030/ apparently the service is being instantly masked
[11:48] <escargotdu25> k1l, are you still connected ?
[11:49] <EriC^> chotaz`w, was the symlink recreated?
[11:49] <chotaz`w> EriC^, instantly it seems
[11:50] <HoloIRCUser2> Eric^: it also says 'error getting authority : error initialising authority :could not connect : no such file or directory g-io-error-quark, 1
[11:50] <chotaz`w> EriC^, my bad!!! there is not symlink at all but I still get the output that the service is masked when I try to manually restart it. I'm ddoing a quick reboot and see if it helps, can't loose much more time with this as I've already spent my morning around it
[11:51] <EriC^> chotaz`w, try sudo systemctl start mysql.service
[11:51] <chotaz`w> EriC^, still masked
[11:51] <EriC^> nevermind yeah
[11:51] <chotaz`w> and theres not symlink >:(
[12:04] <Mrokii> Hello. I need help. I tried to upgrade from 14.10 to 15.04 and now Ubuntu doesn't start correctly anymore. I'm being put into a console with a message, welcoming me to ""emergency mode" :-(
[12:05] <EriC^^> there's a bug in the ubuntu installer, it didn't install grub to the ext hdd i specified, it installed to the main hdd
[12:06] <aladiah> iam upgrading from Lubuntu 14.10 to 15, during upgrading it ask me if i want to keep or replace the personalized file config /etc/mime.types whats is this ? i should rpelace ? what i will lose ?
[12:07] <mlon1> Do my bash scripts have to have all of the methods defined at the top?
[12:07] <EriC^^> mlon1: no, you can do a trick on bash
[12:07] <mlon1> It's kindof ugly when I have many methods to be used in a script -- can't see the actual "script" fr days
[12:07] <EriC^^> main() { func1 func2 } func1() {whatever} func2() {whatever} main "$@"
[12:08] <EriC^^> mlon1: ^
[12:08] <mlon1> EriC^^: ah, I like that
[12:08] <mlon1> thanks
[12:08] <EriC^^> no proble
[12:08] <EriC^^> m
[12:09] <aladiah> EriC
[12:10] <aladiah> Eric^^ personalized file config /etc/mime.types whats is this ? i should replace it during upgrade from 14.10 to 15.04 ?~
[12:10] <EriC^^> aladiah: i think that specifies what files open with which programs
[12:11] <aladiah> hoo, its only this ?
[12:11] <aladiah> Eric^^ so its better replace it doesnit ?
[12:11] <EriC^^> ah nevermind, it's not, that's something global
[12:11] <aladiah> Eric^^ global ?
[12:12] <aladiah> Eric^^ I will lose somthing important ?
[12:12] <EriC^^> aladiah: it specifies the extension of the file types
[12:13] <SchrodingersScat> not sure if it's recommended, but normally if I haven't personally edited the file, I overwrite it.
[12:13] <aladiah> SchrodingersScat the details it give me is this http://paste.ubuntu.com/10878176/
[12:13] <EriC^^> yeah, i'd do as SchrodingersScat is saying
[12:13] <EriC^^> back it up maybe if you aren't sure if you've modified it or not
[12:14] <aladiah> EriC^^ http://paste.ubuntu.com/10878176/ it ask me to keep or replace ? I should replace for now after backup thats it ?
[12:15] <EriC^^> aladiah: yeah type sudo cp /etc/mime.types /etc/mime.types.backup
[12:15] <k1l> escargotdu25: re
[12:16] <aladiah> EriC^^ ok
[12:16] <k1l> escargotdu25: "pastebinit /etc/apt/sources.list" then please show the link here
[12:18] <aladiah> EriC^^ the command dont work it says
[12:19] <tijnix> sudo apt-get install pastebinit
[12:20] <aladiah> EriC^ it says cp: operating destiny file missing after /etc/mime.types /etc/mime.types.backup try cp--help
[12:20] <ubuntu> reza
[12:21] <aladiah> EriC^^ it says cp: operating destiny file missing after /etc/mime.types /etc/mime.types.backup try cp--help
[12:21] <Mrokii> Nobody in here who can help me with the Emergency-mode problem after upgrading to 15.04?
[12:27] <Serg_49_rus> всем доброго времени суток
[12:28] <BluesKaj> !ru | Serg_49_rus
[12:32] <Raydiation> hi, currently on archlinux, need some travis ci help :) where does ubuntu keep the php.ini file when running hp
[12:32] <Raydiation> php -f file.php
[12:34] <Guest56473> Hello, I use sicstus prolog with rlwrap on Ubuntu 14.04 and have to type "rlwrap sicstus .." every time. Is there a way that I can link this command to "sicstus"?
[12:35] <ioria> Raydiation, i got the cli version... is in /etc/php5/cli
[12:35] <Raydiation> ioria: /etc/php5/cli/php.ini?
[12:36] <ioria> Raydiation, yes
[12:36] <Raydiation> ty
[12:36] <ioria> Raydiation, np
[12:37] <EriC^^> is it just me or is there something wrong with the indicators in 15.04? like if you press on the networkmanager indicator, you have to press almost in the dead center again to close it?
[12:38] <ioria> Eric^^ for me is ok, but now i'm with Lubuntu
[12:38] <EriC^^> ioria: ok, unity here
[12:41] <Guest56473> does anyone know how I can link a command to another one with its arguments? Like "sicstus -l test.pl" to "rlwrap sicstus -l test.pl"
[12:41] <ioria> Eric^^ try nm-applet in Terminal
[12:41] <EriC^^> ioria: it's the same for all the icons
[12:42] <gigiubumate> eccomi
[12:43] <gigiubumate> la cosa peggiore di ubu mate e' il menu del grub : scandaloso
[12:44] <EriC^^> i'll try rebooting
[12:44] <ioria> yep
[12:44] <zotherstupidguy> what's the diff bet xserver-xorg and xorg?
[12:47] <EriC^^> nope, still same, you can open it from anywhere on the icon, it just won't close unless you click in the middle
[12:48] <StephenS> I have a small issue with my ubuntu, while I mount my samsung galaxy s4 via usb, I get constant mount/unmount errors
[12:48] <StephenS> occasionally it works, but after 5 mins and then it work for about 2 min in a row without unmount, whats going on?
[12:49] <k1l> StephenS: cable is broken?
[12:49] <StephenS> no its not, its brand new and works fine on windows 8
[12:49] <StephenS> also phone is brand new as well
[12:50] <k1l> look into dmesg what is going on there
[12:50] <EriC^^> StephenS: what's 2+3*1+(1*2)*0 ? :P (it's eeee)
[12:51] <StephenS> k1l can I put paste dmesg on pastebin?
[12:52] <k1l> !paste | StephenS
[12:55] <StephenS> http://paste.ubuntu.com/10878417/
[13:00] <Guest56473> Hello, how can I create my own command in the terminal like "sicstus -l test.pl" should call "rlwrap sicstus -l test.pl" ??
[13:00] <ioria> StephenS, are you sure about the cable ?
[13:00] <StephenS> Yes
[13:00] <StephenS> but just now it worked fine
[13:00] <Guest56473> screen unlocked?
[13:00] <StephenS> yeah
[13:00] <StephenS> next time I get those weird errors Ill come in here
[13:01] <julianofischer> Someone could reset my password, please?
[13:01] <k1l> glad we could help :)
[13:01] <sjoshi> !15.04
[13:02] <k1l> julianofischer: here on freenode? then ask in #freendode
[13:02] <k1l> * #freenode
[13:02] <jeanjack> hi there
[13:03] <Guest56473> hi
[13:03] <jeanjack> I'm making a script which manipulate some $HOME folders, and I need network connexion
[13:04] <tijnix> hi
[13:04] <StephenS> jeanjack ##bash
[13:05] <jeanjack> StephenS: I must initialize network connexion in my script ?
[13:05] <jeanjack> nowhere in ubuntu startup I can put an autostart-script and get network up ?
[13:06] <hateball> jeanjack: you can put things in /etc/rc.local if you need it at boot
[13:08] <jeanjack> /etc/rc.local is executed before network connexion, isn't it ?
[13:09] <StephenS> jeanjack what you want is for ##bash
[13:09] <StephenS> you can check network connection with ping in bash
[13:09] <gigiubumate> exi
[13:09] <StephenS> but there is no way you can tell when will something start on ubuntu, that depends on your hardware etc etc
[13:09] <scrion> Anyone here able to assist getting Ubuntu 14.04 hooked into AD using winbind and the idmap_ad backend?
[13:10] <StephenS> you can do it with symlink > rc.d/ or just put it in cron
[13:11] <jeanjack> my script is in /etc/init.d/rc.local, so I will add wpa_supplicant and dhclient line
[13:11] <jeanjack> thanks anyway StephenS & hateball
[13:12] <nogoodnamesleft> Is there an equivalent to zerofree for ext4? Or do I just cat some repeating stream to a file until the disk fills?
[13:15] <rydzykje> Hey guys, could you help me please. I would like to read 1st line from file which is JAVA_HOME="1.8.0_45" and use just "1.8.0._45" as my variable later how can i do that?
[13:19] <nogoodnamesleft> rydzykje, Err are you in the correct channel? :)
[13:20] <trijntje> rydzykje: head file -n 1 | cut -d '=' -f 2
[13:20] <tijnix> rydzykje: put the file through head -1 | awk -F "=" '{print $2}'
[13:21] <tijnix> i think awk also works with a NR==1 but to lazy to look it up :)
[13:21] <rydzykje> trijntje: thanks!
[13:22] <rydzykje> tijnix: thanks! works <3
[13:25] <geirha> awk -F= '{print $2;exit}'
[13:25] <Latch> Anyone have any clue why Ubuntu keeps shipping with an ancient Squid3 package???
[13:25] <geirha> how ancient is ancient?
[13:26] <Latch> 3.3.8 is acouple of years old. 3.5 has been stable for awhile. Not only that, but the update to Squidguard 1.5-4 breaks compatibility with Squid 3.3.8
[13:28] <Latch> I had 14.10 set up with Squid 3.3.8 and squidGuard 1.5-2 and it workedlike a charm. Create the same config on 15.04, copy over the .conf files and I get an error that basically says squidGuard is trying to use a method not supported by the Squid version. Pffft!
[13:29] <OerHeks> squid3 cane in the debian repos on 2014-08-31
[13:29] <OerHeks> came*
[13:29] <Latch> Only diff is squidGGUard 1.5-4, and changelog says they added stuff to support newer Squid versions and the base is Squid 3.4. Too bad they only package Squid 3.3.8.
[13:30] <tecnobot_> Hola
[13:32] <cryptz> Hey guys i have a question. I just installed 15.04 on a dell r720 server. I cannot get the system to boot after install unless i choose the recover boot option (it boots ok at that point). If i boot normally the system hangs at: begin: running /scripts/init-premount ... done (most of the time) other times it hangs at begin: running /scripts/local-top ... done. no error is ever given.
[13:32] <OerHeks> Latch, maybe worth a bugreport
[13:32] <cryptz> any idea how i can provide somone with more concrete info from the recovery mode?
[13:33] <loa> cryptz, maybe you can up network there
[13:33] <loa> or use flash drive
[13:33] <nogoodnamesleft> BTW anyone running Ubuntu on jailbroken their chromebooks: i2c_i801 kernel module is blacklisted in Vivid. Unblacklisting it hangs the system. So no trackpads.
[13:34] <nogoodnamesleft> i've had to rollback to 14.04 LTS
[13:34] <cryptz> i cannot do anythign at this point, but if i restart the server and choose recovery boot, and then immediately choose continue normal boot everything is fine
[13:34] <cryptz> just wondering what i could do to gather more info to submit a bug report etc
[13:35] <rydzykje> tijnix: another question, how can I create dir (mkdir) based on result from "head /tmp/release -n 1 | cut -c 15-22" ?
[13:37] <rydzykje> i resolved prob :)
[13:42] <robin_> Hey, do you know when the vivid-kernel will be backported to the lts-repos?
[13:44] <k1l_> robin_: for the .3 pointrelease
[13:44] <k1l_> !enablementstack
[13:44] <colbyf> anyone know how to add bleach bit to the right click menu to delete file/folder
[13:45] <robin_> :(
[13:45] <robin_> okay, then i have to wait. thank you
[13:46] <k1l_> colbyf: no need for bleachbit. just press shift and make full deletion
[13:47] <colbyf> k1l_:will that scrub the file?
[13:48] <colbyf> come from windows background so head thinks like microsft still :)
[13:48] <k1l_> it will not put it into the trash but make a full delete
[13:49] <colbyf> ah ok, got ya
[13:50] <nogoodnamesleft> That won't zero fill the file, if that's what you're asking.
[13:50] <TeckniX> hello - I’m currently running ubuntu 14.09 and can’t seem to stop/restart services. I’m unfamiliar with the runsv / sv setup . Is there a cheat-sheet somehwere?
[13:51] <Vyom|Nix> Sup people... so I recovered all my data of 1 TB recently due to a bug in 14.04.1 which wiped my HDD. Feels great to recover tho. Now I am on 14.04.2 and really want to get a feature to work. So far in vain. Can anyone tell how can I make GTalk and FB integration with Empathy to work? They don't seem to connect.
[13:51] <kostkon> TeckniX, you mean 14.10
[13:51] <kostkon> !upstart | TeckniX
[13:51] <TeckniX> thanks ubottu
[13:52] <TeckniX> I’ll check out the docs
[13:52] <nogoodnamesleft> Vyom|Nix, Interesting bug - which one is it? (Just in case I end up in such a situation)
[13:52] <BluesKaj> colbyf, I was a windows guy for yrs on the job , but after i got a home pc it only took me a yr to find out about linux, but I had to wait a couple more yrs to setup a total linux pc for my own use, and KDE was very familiar to me as a desktop so i stuck with it ever since
[13:53] <Vyom|Nix> nogoodnamesleft: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubiquity/+bug/1265192 It's resolved in 14.04.2 tho. It wasn't really a bug, but it made me wipe my HDD (formatting the Windows partition too).
[13:54] <nogoodnamesleft> Vyom|Nix, Thanks for info.
[13:56] <jayjo> if I run a shell script that launches a python script, will the script not continue along until that code has completed executing ?
[13:56] <Vyom|Nix> So, anyone able to use FB and GTalk on Empathy on 14.04 or any other version for that matter?
[13:56] <colbyf> BluesKaj:I using Ubuntu and getting on ok, but its a whole new fun learning experience. learning loads :)
[13:57] <BluesKaj> colbyf, well that's good to hear, welcome to the linux experience :)
[13:59] <_war10ck_> I need help with installing libgtk2.0-dev in Ubuntu 12.04
[13:59] <_war10ck_> On trying to install, this error pops : libcairo2-dev : Depends: libfontconfig1-dev (>= 2.2.95) but it is not going to be installed
[14:00] <_war10ck_> Sorry, that was for libcairo, but similar for libgtk2.0-dev too
[14:00] <_war10ck_> Can someone please help me
[14:00] <_war10ck_> ?
[14:01] <yellabs-r2> hello all
[14:01] <jayjo> _war10ck_: jsut install what it asks for then
[14:01] <yellabs-r2> i am seeking enlightment , can you help ?
[14:01] <Latch> Squid3 bug report submitted. Now we play the waiting game...
[14:02] <gioans> i use ubuntu 15.04, some time my ubuntu crashes, if i changes wifi
[14:02] <_war10ck_> jayjo: I have tried it, but it just keeps giving more and more dependencies - which is, in a nut shell huge.
[14:02] <yellabs-r2> when trying to ge the new 15.04 , i see the 14.04.2 as the download of choice , did something go wrong with the LTS version ?
[14:02] <EriC^^> yellabs-r2: sudo apt-get install e17
[14:02] <yellabs-r2> http://www.ubuntu.com/download/desktop
[14:03] <EriC^^> :P
[14:03] <yellabs-r2> :P
[14:03] <colbyf> i think if you search for it in launch pad it shows the main package
[14:03] <colbyf> when searching for things before this is how I done it or github
[14:03] <_war10ck_> jayjo: This is what I am getting when I am trying install a few packages : http://paste.debian.net/168654/
[14:03] <colbyf> is usually says file ..... is part of .... package
[14:04] <yellabs-r2> is 15.04 stable ? in LTS release cycle terms ..
[14:04] <alnenkl> What's the typical pattern for editing a JSON file in a bash script? Everything seems so kludgey.. (eg sed, awk)
[14:04] <colbyf> its not stable its beta, and I am using it
[14:04] <yellabs-r2> i see, when is the stable release due ?
[14:05] <colbyf> let me check it could be today lol
[14:05] <Vyom|Nix> If anyone send me any message in previous 10 min, plese quote it again. Thanks.
[14:05] <colbyf> ha it was officially released yesterday
[14:06] <yellabs-r2> thats odd , dont you think, the website recommends 14.04
[14:06] <yellabs-r2> when going to http://www.ubuntu.com/ , then follow the download link..
[14:07] <OerHeks> yellabs-r2, get a torrent from http://torrent.ubuntu.com:6969/ , i am seeding a lot https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/6885560/ratio2015.png
[14:07] <yellabs-r2> OerHeks, thanks, its not that i cant get it, its that the website say's a different story
[14:08] <OerHeks> i understand there is a lot of work to be done, just got the delayed Firefox 37.0.2
[14:08] <colbyf> _warl0ck_: try this >> http://askubuntu.com/questions/58202/how-to-automatically-fetch-missing-dependencies-when-installing-software-from-d
[14:11] <_war10ck_> colbyf: Let's see, I am trying -f install with apt-get - once that is done, I will see
[14:12] <gioans> i use ubuntu 15.04, some time my ubuntu crashes, if i changes wifi
[14:12] <yellabs-r2> ah, software, its alway's in beta ( versions )
[14:13] <colbyf> gioans: my advice would be to get the name of the wifi card you use and search for the installation, I have to do that with my wifi its on my next to do list
[14:14] <colbyf> gioans: sometimes it gives you the id of your card in BIOS
[14:15] <colbyf> btw if anyone wants a file/directory shred added to there right click menu run this >> sudo apt-get install nautilus-wipe
[14:16] <ubone> someone stalk me in 5 seconds
[14:16] <petrvs> colbyf: why're you shredding?
[14:16] <petrvs> ubone:
[14:17] <colbyf> I like to shred everything and not normal delete, earlier today was working with pgp keys so wanted to be able to securely delete them
[14:18] <colbyf> plus I am paranoid and follow https://prism-break.org/en/ its how I ended up using Linux
[14:18] <EriC^^> !securedelete | colbyf
[14:18] <yellabs-r2> ubone , i just did the last 5 minutes , did you not notice ?
[14:18] <EriC^^> !secure-delete | colbyf
[14:18] <petrvs> colbyf: hope you're at least using -n 1
[14:18] <petrvs> more than that is a waste of time
[14:18] <EriC^^> ubottu is broke
[14:18] <ubone> seems to be broken, my notify
[14:19] <petrvs> ubone: notify?
[14:19] <EriC^^> !secure-delete trusty | colbyf
[14:19] <EriC^^> !secure-delete | colbyf
[14:19] <colbyf> well I am new so still learning, lol the wiper I am using suggests two wipes for modern hard drives
[14:19] <EriC^^> !secure-delete | trusty
[14:20] <yellabs-r2> colbyf , use etherape ( as root ) and you will be suprised as how many connection your computer makes on the net
[14:20] <colbyf> Eric^^: Gonna check that out now thanks
[14:20] <EriC^^> !secure-delete trusty
[14:20] <EriC^^> colbyf: ok
[14:20] <yellabs-r2> unplug is the safest way LOL
[14:20] <ubone> petrvs: notify-send
[14:20] <petrvs> oh
[14:20] <colbyf> ahhh running away from PC in panic lol
[14:21] <jeanjack> finally i use lightdm login script =)
[14:22] <cassio3> can I monitor the temp of my cpu, even other sensors, from an ubuntu livecd?
[14:22] <chotaz`w> !lmsensors
[14:22] <colbyf> EriC^^: it says secure-felete already installed, I wonder if natutilus wipe use it
[14:22] <yellabs-r2> colbyf, dont worry to much ..
[14:22] <ubone> cassio3: install gkrellm
[14:23] <colbyf> yellabs-r2: on VPN lol, with my tin foil hat
[14:23] <EriC^^> colbyf: it has a bunch of tools, like srm
[14:23] <cassio3> guess I would have to boot off of a usb...
[14:25] <yellabs-r2> have a nice day you all
[14:25] <yellabs-r2> :)
[14:25] <colbyf> don't 4get ur tin foil hat
[14:26] <chotaz`w> k1l_, EriC^^ thanks a lot for your input earlier, I've finally managed to fix my mysql server :))
[14:26] <petrvs> colbyf: there's basically 0 evidence anything more than a single overwrite is anything but an enormous waste of time
[14:28] <colbyf> petrvs: ok, thats good to know lol used to run gutman i think that was 35 lol at least now I am down to 2 wipes :)
[14:29] <petrvs> colbyf: yeah... that's just a great way to spend our tax dollars they figured out, afaict
[14:29] <nogoodnamesleft> colbyf, Are you using disk encryption? The issue with secure erase of -files- is that .. well inodes and SSDs and stuff.
[14:29] <petrvs> well if you use encryption, you don't have to erase
[14:30] <chotaz`w> what is the most secure way I can use to remotely connect to my home server? SSH?
[14:31] <colbyf> no I aint using disk encryption
[14:31] <colbyf> was reading ssds re write to a space that isnt used as much are something like that anyways
[14:32] <EriC^^> chotaz`w: great :)
[14:32] <colbyf> I sometimes use disk encryption to format a hard drive thou, its way faster than other methods I think
[14:33] <petrvs> chotaz`w: yes, ssh
[14:34] <petrvs> colbyf: but disk encryption doesn't format
[14:36] <colbyf> mmm doh lol
[14:36] <marcanuy> Hi, after upgrading to 15.04 I can't connect to my wireless network, this is what syslog says: http://paste.ubuntu.com/10878997/ any idea?
[14:37] <oro> hi all, is there a way where I can extract wpa_supplicant conf values for a NetworkManager connection? I have a problem where setting up wpa2/leap with NM does not connect but with a 4linelong wpa_supplicant.conf it does. I wanna find out what's the difference between the two configurations
[14:38] <nogoodnamesleft> marcanuy, Not entirely sure, but what happens if you turn off the one of IP4 or IP6 that you aren't using?
[14:40] <ioria> marcanuy, wifi it's not working or you can't connect to your lan ?
[14:40] <marcanuy> ioria, I am currently connected to the router with a wired connection, wifi stopped working after upgrade
[14:41] <marcanuy> nogoodnamesleft, how can I do that?
[14:41] <marcanuy> sorry I didn't understand what you mean
[14:42] <nogoodnamesleft> marcanuy, settings, network connections, iP4/IP6 tabs
[14:42] <chotaz`w> petrvs, so the bigger the rsa i setup for my keys, the slower the connection will be, right?
[14:43] <ioria> marcanuy, iwconfig ?
[14:43] <petrvs> chotaz`w: some encryption is more intense and less performant than others
[14:44] <chotaz`w> petrvs, I wanna prioritize security here, but I don't want to compromise speed, is that possible?
[14:44] <petrvs> chotaz`w: if the default way latest stable openssh encrypted things was _remotely_ known to be vulnerable, though, not only would we all know about it, it wouldn't be the default
[14:44] <petrvs> the whole point of openssh is to be secure already
[14:44] <petrvs> by default
[14:44] <petrvs> proactive security is the openbsd motto, practically: http://www.openbsd.org/
[14:44] <jnp> 'sup guys
[14:44] <petrvs> and if it wasn't their's, it'd still be an "unofficial" Unix thing
[14:45] <marcanuy> ioria, http://paste.ubuntu.com/10879067/
[14:45] <petrvs> jnp: suppah
[14:45] <xxnoobsxx> anyone having heat issues with ubuntu on a laptop? under windows 7 it doesnt run as hot as under ubuntu. anyone know how to fix?
[14:45] <jnp> I don't know
[14:45] <jnp> Haven't had those issues
[14:45] <chotaz`w> petrvs, thanks for the insight, I've never used BSD before
[14:45] <LogicalDash> Hey I'm shopping for my next computer and I have the option to make it an x86 tablet with a slot for a SIM card. If I get one of those (Getac T800) and install Ubuntu on it, will I then be able to make phone calls from the device? Or is it just mobile data?
[14:46] <LogicalDash> Or, uh, just a dumb card reader I guess?
[14:46] <ioria> marcanuy, you should't use a passphrase in clear, in any case
[14:46] <ioria> marcanuy, sorry, other matter ... :-)
[14:47] <LogicalDash> This probably isn't a good channel for this question sorry
[14:48] <rydzykje> hello guys, i've added some env variables to /etc/profile and i would like to have them avilable without system restart. How can I restart shell?
[14:48] <ioria> marcanuy, well, we have to test it ... change the ip of wlan0 ... different from eth0 and try to connect in case use sudo ifup wlan0
[14:48] <petrvs> chotaz`w: openssh is maintained by the openbsd boys, is why I mention it
[14:48] <petrvs> primarily, obviously it has many contributors
[14:49] <chotaz`w> petrvs, I'm guessing the ssh implementation in ubuntu by default is openssh?
[14:50] <petrvs> chotaz`w: yup
[14:50] <chotaz`w> petrvs, a lil chat and i already feel safer, ahaha
[14:50] <petrvs> there are some other ssh implementations, and afaik they all have great track records, too
[14:51] <jody> hey guys
[14:51] <petrvs> but they're more for special use cases, like minimal storage and strange environments
[14:51] <petrvs> jody: heyo
[14:51] <jody> good evening
[14:53] <elux> hello.. im trying to figure out if 15.04 is worth it.. ? i dont care for LXD
[14:53] <elux> feels like an act to try to capture mind-share during this containerization movement.. maybe im not seeing it, but its strange to see this
[14:53] <nullcod3> hell0
[14:54] <petrvs> 'lo null
[14:54] <petrvs> elux: LXD?
[14:54] <nogoodnamesleft> elux, As a user I have noticed some new icons, and that's about it. I had to rollback to 14.04 though on one machine due to a required kernel module being blacklisted.
[14:54] <marcanuy> It disconnected my wired connection :(
[14:54] <elux> i use it mainly on the server
[14:54] <petrvs> nogoodnamesleft: couldn't you unblacklist it?
[14:54] <marcanuy> ioria, http://paste.ubuntu.com/10879067/
[14:55] <marcanuy> nogoodnamesleft, ok I disabled ipv6 without luck so far
[14:55] <petrvs> elux: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Legion_of_Extraordinary_Dancers ?
[14:55] <elux> petrvs: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/VividVervet/ReleaseNotes
[14:55] <rydzykje> any ideas why my terminal is closing after some commands?
[14:55] <petrvs> rydzykje: any particular commands?
[14:55] <nogoodnamesleft> petrvs, When loaded, it hangs the machine (it's i2c_801) so I guess there was a reason for it
[14:55] <rydzykje> petrvs: no matter
[14:55] <petrvs> if you say so
[14:55] <nullcod3> guys, does someone know how i can add resolutions? im stucked on 1024x768 and it's max reso
[14:56] <petrvs> nogoodnamesleft: you can use most any kernel with most any userland
[14:56] <rydzykje> petrvs: scp, chmod etc.
[14:56] <petrvs> including ancient ones
[14:56] <ioria> marcanuy, ok, try to upgede... sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade
[14:56] <petrvs> and cutting-edge-r ones
[14:56] <marcanuy> ioria, yes I have already did that
[14:57] <nogoodnamesleft> petrvs, Yes, this machine used to have 14.10 but was using the 3.13 kernel from 14.04 instead of the 3.16 from 14.04. In the end it's too much effort just to get different launcher icons :-)
[14:57] <nogoodnamesleft> 3.16 from 14.10
[14:57] <marcanuy> running it again, just in case
[14:57] <ioria> marcanuy, are you using Broadcom lspci -v | grep Network -A 5
[14:57] <ioria> ?
[14:58] <rust__> hard drive unable to mount.showing a process is in pending!! any idea ?
[14:58] <marcanuy> ioria, Network controller: Ralink corp. RT3290 Wireless 802.11n 1T/1R PCIe
[14:58] <halfburnttoast> Hey, is anyone else getting an issue with 15.04 where it constantly is asking for the password to cryptswap? I installed it with the encryption and lvm and, every time I try to restart a service, it asks for the cryptswap password again
[14:59] <halfburnttoast> I've tried this on Ubuntu and Xubuntu 15.04 and it's happening in both
[14:59] <Guest86592> ciao
[14:59] <rust__> hard drive unable to mount.showing a process is in pending!! any idea ?
[14:59] <Guest86592> !list
[14:59] <petrvs> rust__: says what?
[15:00] <halfburnttoast> here it is in action: http://i.imgur.com/VzuDkV7.png
[15:00] <ioria> marcanuy, lspci -v .... search for Network and the string : kernel driver in use:
[15:01] <rust__> petrvs: http://pastebin.com/iAaWGiss
[15:01] <galigan> someone with experience with multimonitor with retina (high dpi) displays?
[15:01] <rust__> petrvs: I have an external toshiba hard drive. Its not mounting properly. afraid to lost data!!
[15:02] <marcanuy> ioria, Kernel driver in use: rt2800pci
[15:02] <Blueking> logrotate and defining maxsize on file size on log files doesn't seem to work properly ?
[15:02] <petrvs> rust__: unplug it and try a different usb port
[15:03] <nogoodnamesleft> galigan, What's the issue?
[15:03] <petrvs> rust__: if that doesn't work, connect it to a Windows install and fsck it
[15:03] <rust__> petrvs: I tried !!
[15:03] <adot> are questions allowed now?
[15:03] <petrvs> rust__: tried what?
[15:03] <petrvs> adot: ?
[15:03] <rust__> petrvs: no!! let me try
[15:03] <galigan> @nogodnanesleft... not works well for me..
[15:03] <ioria> marcanuy, sudo modprobe -r rt2800pci and sudo modprobe rt2800pci nohwcrypt=1
[15:04] <nogoodnamesleft> galigan, I have a massive problem with multi-monitor, but hidpi does work
[15:04] <galigan> If I have two monitors, one withut retina.. It's not working..
[15:04] <SchrodingersScat> !ask | adot
[15:04] <nogoodnamesleft> galigan, I don't know, mine are the same size.
[15:04] <petrvs> rust__: and if none of that works, try ntfsresize -fi /dev/foo#
[15:05] <adot> The install routine for ubuntu does not see my windows recovery partition (D) only C...will I lose it?
[15:05] <petrvs> adot: you can always do manual partitioning
[15:05] <petrvs> adot: and then feel more assured it won't delete things you haven't told it to delete
[15:06] <galigan> I ended up, staying away from my 4k ( resolution) and working at 1920...
[15:06] <petrvs> adot: also, you could backup your recovery partition, which is a good idea anyways
[15:06] <marcanuy> ioria, done it
[15:06] <marcanuy> ioria, iwconfig does not shows the wlan0
[15:07] <rust__> petrvs: error 2 while executing fsck.ntfs for /dev/sdc1
[15:07] <nogoodnamesleft> galigan, They make retina in 4k? what size is it?
[15:07] <galigan> no no
[15:07] <petrvs> rust__: what's that from, ntfsresize?
[15:08] <BornToFlyBert> Hello everybody!
[15:08] <marcanuy> ioria, NetworkManager[13584]: <warn> Couldn't disconnect supplicant interface: This interface is not connected.
[15:08] <adot> thank you
[15:08] <rust__> petrvs: ntfsresize -fi /dev/sdc1 ??
[15:08] <galigan> nogoodnamesleft: its not retina ( i don't know) but it supports, 3840x2160
[15:08] <rust__> petrvs: is it right ?
[15:09] <BornToFlyBert> Is there anybody, who is familar with Ubuntu Server 14.04 concerning startup troubles, if I may ask?
[15:09] <ioria> marcanuy, sudo modprobe -r rt2800pci nohwcrypt=1 and sudo modprobe rt2800pci
[15:10] <rust__> petrvs: http://pastebin.com/2GnLbWJH
[15:12] <rust__> petrvs: http://pastebin.com/2GnLbWJH
[15:12] <petrvs> rust__: did you try from Windows already?
[15:13] <rust__> petrvs: yeah!! only showing format option!!
[15:13] <petrvs> rust__: no...
[15:14] <petrvs> rust__: you need to fsck it from Windows
[15:14] <petrvs> and please stop with the !'s...
[15:14] <rust__> petrvs: ok!! let me do
[15:15] <tesmo> Just came in for one thing.
[15:15] <petrvs> tesmo: take your time
[15:15] <tesmo> !suggest 15.10 Wobbly Whale
[15:15] <petrvs> heh
[15:16] <Kali_Yuga> hello?
[15:17] <petrvs> 'lo
[15:17] <deadmund> Kali_Yuga: hello
[15:17] <Kali_Yuga> hi
[15:18] <harminuriel> hello, who has some experience with Orca and Mbrola voices? I'm not able to set mbrola voices to use with Orca screen reader
[15:19] <petrvs> can't encourage you enough to use a text browser and text2speech engine instead of trying to convert images into text
[15:20] <colbyf> hi, any idea which program I should use to view all process using the internet and how much they are using
[15:20] <petrvs> colbyf: nettop, maybe
[15:23] <ngochai> Hi guys, why my root is mount as /dev/root? http://pastebin.com/NfTjHEBJ
[15:23] <colbyf> your suggestion put me onto NetHogs :)
[15:24] <jarnos_> Is there any reason why user would want to have both -generic and -lowlatency kernel on same installation?
[15:25] <jarnos_> What about -goldfish kernel?
[15:25] <deadmund> jarnos_: I see no reason not to have the option to choose both. Please be aware low-latency has a very specific meaning / purpose.
[15:25] <mistralol> so ubuntu 15.04 server crashes about 5-10 minutes after boot
[15:25] <mistralol> anyone any suggestions?
[15:25] <deadmund> jarnos_: -goldfish is for the Android emulator?
[15:26] <Kali_Yuga> irssi -n Kali_Yuga
[15:26] <daftykins> jarnos_: you can only be booted into one at once...
[15:26] <deadmund> mistralol: Look at the logs such as dmesg after rebooting. Do you get any errors on the screen?
[15:26] <jarnos_> deadmund, I guess so, so it can co-exist with -generic and -lowlatency kernel?
[15:27] <mistralol> deadmund i know enough that the dmesg logs are cleared and the kernel logs from the syslog dont have anything relevent
[15:27] <deadmund> jarnos_: They can all be installed and given as options when you boot.
[15:27] <mistralol> just wondering if anyone else has seen this yet?
[15:28] <jarnos_> daftykins, so it is possible and not dangerous to install e.g. -generic kernel in Ubuntu Studio and boot such a kernel?
[15:28] <deadmund> mistralol: You can look at the logs from the previous boot in /var/log/<ITEM>/ITEM.1.log
[15:28] <mistralol> deadmund yes i know. But they don't contain a kernel opps or anything like that
[15:29] <deadmund> mistralol: Ok, then I don't know :(
[15:29] <mistralol> it just hangs. So logs won't be written anyway. It seems to fall over any time I put any load on the machine
[15:29] <jarnos_> deadmund, I am working on a script that aims to remove some older kernels, but I am confused about what types of kernels I should take into account.
[15:29] <mistralol> deadmund also it does it in a virtual machine as well
[15:30] <mistralol> deadmund but int he virtual machine case VirtualBox just kills its self
[15:30] <daftykins> jarnos_: what exactly do you hope to achieve by playing with kernels?
[15:32] <deadmund> jarnos_: Remove all the kernels except the one you're using?
[15:32] <jarnos_> daftykins, free space on /boot and /, keep only reasonable amount of older kernels and related packages.
[15:32] <deadmund> jarnos_: Maybe leave the "single-user" one just in case?
[15:32] <daftykins> jarnos_: show a pastebin of "ls -al /boot"
[15:33] <jarnos_> deadmund, "single-user"?
[15:35] <deadmund> jarnos_: Isn't there some "recovery" kernel or something?
[15:36] <rydzykje> hey guys, I made a huge mistake with permissions. I can't run a lot of apps so I gave to all directories permisions CHMOD 1777 /* , I would like to go back to DEFAULT Permissions. Is it possible?
[15:36] <daftykins> that was a very, very bad move
[15:36] <jarnos_> deadmund, I don't think so, it is just same kernel booted with different parameters. Of course, if you leave more than one kernel, they can work as recovery kernel, if the newest one fails to boot for some reason.
[15:36] <daftykins> rydzykje: no you cannot, not without painstakingly matching another install for comparison
[15:36] <rydzykje> daftykins: i know... i run one stupid script...
[15:36] <daftykins> rydzykje: what path did you set?
[15:37] <daftykins> a script? wat
[15:37] <rydzykje> daftykins: i was playing with 0755 permissions... and I put by mistake *
[15:37] <zotherstupidguy> is ubuntu server the best minimal ubuntu installation ever?
[15:37] <deadmund> daftykins: I think he just means "the command"
[15:37] <rydzykje> daftykins: later i couldnt run any application
[15:37] <deadmund> script = a single command
[15:37] <rydzykje> deadmund: so i started to give all chmod 1777
[15:38] <daftykins> rydzykje: yes but what path were you in at the time? type "history" to see what you ran
[15:38] <angrywombat> i'm running 13.04 server (i know it's out of support as of January) - i'm having an issue where the machine can't figure out any DNS, but i can ping public IPs.. anyone have any thoughts? tried to install nscd so i could restart it and flush DNS but that won't work because no DNS will resolve, including ubuntu
[15:38] <deadmund> zotherstupidguy: I don't understand the question?
[15:38] <jarnos_> daftykins, deadmund, I have already published such a script, but I am developing it further: http://askubuntu.com/a/571360/21005
[15:38] <daftykins> angrywombat: sorry, we can't in good conscience support an EOL release - upgrade to a supported release then we can talk.
[15:38] <angrywombat> daftykins: i can't because of software dependencies
[15:38] <rydzykje> daftykins: http://pastebin.com/S8F6hUhC
[15:39] <angrywombat> you can't even point me in the right direction with this?
[15:39] <daftykins> angrywombat: nope
[15:39] <angrywombat> wow
[15:39] <daftykins> ragequit.
[15:39] <zotherstupidguy> deadmund i want the least bloated ubuntu installation ever... which iso i should use?
[15:39] <rydzykje> daftykins: but later I've changed chmod 1777 for tmp,opt,var,bin,etc...
[15:39] <daftykins> rydzykje: reinstall time
[15:39] <Enemtee> How do gtk-apps look in Kubuntu 15.04? OK or bad?
[15:39] <rydzykje> cmon rly?
[15:40] <daftykins> yes really.
[15:40] <daftykins> you goofed BIG TIME
[15:40] <rydzykje> fuuuck
[15:40] <daftykins> !language
[15:40] <deadmund> hahah
[15:41] <rydzykje> daftykins: so last question, this command: find /opt/jdk1* -type d -exec chmod 0755 {} \; will give 0755 only to /opt/jdk* directory yes?
[15:41] <ngochai> Hi guys, why my root is mounted in /dev/root instead of /dev/mmcblk0p2? http://pastebin.com/NfTjHEBJ
[15:41] <agrippaz> i wonder if someone cal help me install AESCrypt? I am following the directions in the documentation, which indicates that once i decompress the tgz file I downloaded from them, I will get a directory, but I do not get a directory, I get a file made of data and I don't know what to do with it. Help?
[15:41] <daftykins> rydzykje: whatever you're doing there isn't right to do ever
[15:41] <agrippaz> all this is command-line by the way
[15:42] <rydzykje> daftykins: what's the right command to give 0755 permisions for the folder?
[15:42] <daftykins> not much point until you reinstall though eh?
[15:42] <agrippaz> "To install the command-line version, you will need the GNU C compiler and the “make” utility." -- does Ubuntu have these?
[15:42] <daftykins> you probably won't even be able to run most commands anymore.
[15:42] <pbx> agrippaz, yes
[15:42] <rydzykje> daftykins: it's a point cause I running this command normaly on my VM not on local... on local I made a mistake
[15:43] <agrippaz> pbx, i had to install "make" via apt-get... you sure?
[15:43] <rydzykje> daftykins: so just tell me what's the correct command to give 0755 for the directory?
[15:43] <nogoodnamesleft> agrippaz, what exactly did you install? ubuntu should have make and gcc as standard
[15:43] <daftykins> rydzykje: i'm saying that you shouldn't need to do that.
[15:44] <daftykins> whatever you're up to, you're going about it wrong imo
[15:44] <rydzykje> daftykins: but after "copy" directory has't correct permissions.
[15:44] <agrippaz> nogoodnamesleft, AESCrypt 3.10
[15:44] <daftykins> rydzykje: why are you copying it and not installing it properly?
[15:44] <nogoodnamesleft> agrippaz, What did you type to install "make" via apt-get?
[15:44] <agrippaz> nogoodnamesleft, i am trying to install it but the directions don't make sense (https://www.aescrypt.com/documentation/AES%20Crypt%20User%20Guide.pdf)
[15:45] <rydzykje> daftykins: java <3 by apt is installed in /usr/lib/jvm/java.... but I want it in /opt
[15:45] <agrippaz> nogoodnamesleft, i get "you already have newest version" because i ran apt-get install make earlier when there was no make
[15:45] <daftykins> why does the path matter?
[15:45] <daftykins> you can't just fight package placements XD
[15:45] <frecel> hello
[15:45] <daftykins> hi
[15:45] <frecel> I have accidentally installed two versions of the same package
[15:46] <rydzykje> daftykins: I can :) im just asking you what's the proper command to set 0755 permissions for the directory, Im not asking for your opinion about that.
[15:46] <Ben64> rydzykje: you seem to not understand that you broke your system
[15:46] <Teduardo> is there a way to query the possible modprobe options for a specific driver, for example i40e?
[15:46] <rydzykje> Ben64: i know i broke my ssystem
[15:47] <agrippaz> nogoodnamesleft, pbx: when I run "tar -xzf aescrypt-x.y.z.tgz" i do not get a directory like the documentation says, I get a file and I don't know what to do with it
[15:47] <Ben64> rydzykje: so it doesn't matter how to set anything to 755
[15:47] <rydzykje> Ben64: but for me it's not important now, I know what kind of mistake I made
[15:47] <daftykins> rydzykje: sorry, your lack of understanding of the topic is what is causing these issues.
[15:47] <rydzykje> Ben64: but I want to set it on my future VM.
[15:47] <frecel> so I'm wondering if there is a way to remove one version of the package and not the other
[15:47] <daftykins> i know you just want a mythical command that'll solve all your problems, but what you're trying to do is wrong to begin with
[15:47] <Ben64> rydzykje: you don't though. you should never have to modify system permissions like that
[15:47] <rydzykje> Ben64: just for one directory under /opt. is it so hard to understand?
[15:48] <rydzykje> Ben64: so im asking how should i, what's the proper command?
[15:48] <Ben64> rydzykje: there is no proper command, because you're doing something that is not proper
[15:48] <nogoodnamesleft> agrippaz, the 3.6 section seems OK. What isn't working?
[15:48] <rydzykje> Ben64: why chaning permissions is not proper?
[15:48] <Ben64> because you'll break things
[15:49] <agrippaz> nogoodnamesleft, when I run tar -xzf aescrypt-x.y.z.tgz, I get a file, not a directory
[15:49] <nogoodnamesleft> rydzykje, What they mean is "tell them exactly what you want to do, and they'll tell you a better way of doing it"
[15:49] <agrippaz> nogoodnamesleft, the documentation states, "This should create a directory
[15:49] <agrippaz> with the same name, but without .tgz."
[15:49] <agrippaz> however I can't cd to the new file, because it is not a directory
[15:49] <agrippaz> it shows up in green on my CLI
[15:50] <ai6pg> rydzykje: I belive it's sudo chmod -R /target_directory - it's dangerous though
[15:50] <rydzykje> ok guys sooo :)
[15:50] <pbx> agrippaz, are you absolutely sure you typed the command exactly as shown? it will create a directory from the tgx
[15:51] <pbx> (tgz rather)
[15:51] <agrippaz> pbx, i tried thrice, but i will try once more now
[15:51] <rydzykje> Ben64: I'm a noob user of Linux Ubuntu and noob user of Ansible. I have to prepare kind of installer of some 3rd part soft e.g JAVA. I want to install Java in /opt/jdk$VERSION but Java installed by APT is installed in /usr/lib/jvm/java.... That's why im moving JAVA folder to /opt and I want to give him this 0755 permissions. Is it clear right now?
[15:52] <agrippaz> pbx, yes, i did it correctly. it decompresses the file but what it decompresses is another file, not a directory
[15:52] <agrippaz> nogoodnamesleft, ^
[15:52] <daftykins> rydzykje: still wrong, sorry.
[15:53] <rydzykje> daftykins: what's wrong? lol. I explained all the stuff I want to do. Reason why is: becuase it's requirement cming from top.
[15:53] <pbx> agrippaz, share a shell session like this. http://dpaste.com/0VX1VXC
[15:54] <agrippaz> pbx, sure just a sec
[15:54] <mistralol> rydzykje read the man pages for chmod, chown, find, xargs
[15:56] <agrippaz> pbx, http://dpaste.com/3YWEPJH
[15:56] <pbx> agrippaz, ah, you're using the wrong file.
[15:56] <rydzykje> time to start the weekend, enjoy your weekend guys. morning monday = reinstall ubnt. thanks and bye bye :)
[15:56] <agrippaz> pbx, aaaahhh! it's the GUI version, isn't it?
[15:57] <pbx> agrippaz, right. and you're following the "Installing on Linux (non-GUI)" instructions
[15:58] <pbx> !root | agrippaz
[15:59] <pbx> oh never mind that, sorry agrippaz. was just wanting to give you the standard advice that working as root isn't generally a good idea
[15:59] <agrippaz> pbx, thanks very much, i'll try to proceed from here. i know root is bad, this is a VM i spun up just to try this package
[15:59] <agrippaz> pbx, stupid mistake on my part. how many times did I type "GUI" without thinking about it :(
[16:02] <agrippaz> have to install gcc now :(
[16:02] <agrippaz> maybe my stripped-down 15.05 includes like nothing
[16:02] <agrippaz> 15.04
[16:02] <mistralol> agrippaz does it run for longer than 10 minutes for you?
[16:02] <OerHeks> agrippaz, wrong approach, instal build-essentials, the metapackage for gcc and tools
[16:02] <OerHeks> !info build-essentials
[16:03] <mistralol> yes it does
[16:03] <OerHeks> !info build-essential
[16:03] <OerHeks> !build
[16:03] <agrippaz> mistralol, ahh, installing build-essential now
[16:03] <agrippaz> done
[16:07] <agrippaz> it seems that i've "make"d it but can't run it
[16:07] <agrippaz> http://dpaste.com/1AVQWYY
[16:08] <trism> agrippaz: you need to add ./ to the front, the current directory is not in PATH
[16:09] <agrippaz> trism, ahh. that has always confused me in linux
[16:09] * agrippaz goes to read up on PATH
[16:11] <chandru_in> How do I customize the encryption configuration during installation from desktop CD? It works if I choose the defaults, but installer crashes if I try to customize it.
[16:17] <marcanuy> My irc log is full and I've lost the last message the user "ioria" sent to me in this channel, can someone resend it?
[16:18] <agrippaz> to avoid using root, i added a user using adduser, then I logged in, but stuff is all messed up, if I backspace, I get weird characters. why?
[16:19] <OerHeks> !logs | marcanuy
[16:19] <Guest47539> how can I make a new login password if I forgot my old one? Is it possible?
[16:19] <marcanuy> thanks OerHeks
[16:20] <OerHeks> !password
[16:20] <OerHeks> Guest47539, easy job
[16:21] <OerHeks> *unless you have something encrypted ..
[16:23] <denixx> Hi! I have a problem using kubuntu 15.04: When I do "ssh -l user -p 44 -L 8090:localhost:8090 -L 1234:localhost:5900 -R 5700:localhost:5900 my.hostname.org -N" - it opens connection, but when I try to use 5700 at remote computer, it says in local console "WARNING: Server requests forwarding for unknown listen_port 5700". I'll appreciate any help. It looks like some bug.
[16:23] <denixx> I have a brief look at sources of openssh-client, there is channels.c, method "channel_connect_by_listen_address(const char *listen_host, u_short listen_port, char *ctype, char *rname)" tries to do "if (open_listen_match_tcpip(&permitted_opens[i], listen_host, listen_port, 1)) {" and if nothing suits - do this error. I am trying to understand is it a bug somewhere in openssh-client, but do not understand C-things, I am a Java program
[16:26] <rahulprodev> Hello, everyone, Is it ok to install 64bit ubuntu in 2gb ram laptop?
[16:26] <daftykins> it is but it could be a bit wasteful, run 32-bit if you're not planning on upgrading
[16:28] <rahulprodev> daftykins, ok, I think i will upgrade it... 2 days back one port of ram get damaged :(
[16:28] <daftykins> the socket or the module?
[16:28] <rahulprodev> socket.
[16:28] <daftykins> how'd that happen 0o
[16:29] <rahulprodev> don't know I just opened my laptop for cleaning :P
[16:29] <rahulprodev> may be that time... somehow it get damaged.
[16:30] <rahulprodev> after sometime... it start behaving odd... I mean sometimes it works ok, some times laptop get stuck... and when I start fan runs fast and nothing comes...
[16:31] <daftykins> perhaps you damaged it with some static electricity discharge on your person
[16:32] <rahulprodev> hm, atleast other parts are safe :) now working on 2gb ram :(
[16:32] <daftykins> memtest might have something to say about that ;)
[16:33] <rahulprodev> memtest???
[16:34] <rahulprodev> ubuntu takes around 500 mb in normal use...
[16:34] <Cihat_> hello, I have a problem with 15.04 that at every boot fsck checking filesystems. I tried tune2fs to set 20 mount but no change.
[16:34] <daftykins> yeah it tests your RAM
[16:34] <daftykins> hmm very patient there, Cihat_
[16:34] <rahulprodev> got it!
[16:34] <rahulprodev> daftykins thanks
[16:35] <rahulprodev> deftykins, in 2gb - 64bit ubuntu is memory get wasted?
[16:38] <OerHeks> rahulprodev, 2 gb is fine, 1 gb will take more resources
[16:38] <OerHeks> *than 32 bit
[16:39] <daftykins> 64-bit programs will be bigger in size and consume more RAM i'd expect, so it'd be wasteful yeah
[16:39] <daftykins> hence me saying it the first time (:
[16:41] <reborn> What do you have a RAM?
[16:41] <rahulprodev> hm OerHeks , daftykins Thanks...
[16:41] <petrvs> no memory is wasted in GNU/Linux
[16:42] <petrvs> what'd be a waste is using 32-bit software with a 64-bit processor
[16:42] <daftykins> i disagree with that comment
[16:42] <rahulprodev> reborn, I have 4 gb 2 days back but now my one port is damaged so only one port is working and its 2gb
[16:43] <reborn> how about order 2 gb? it cost cheap.
[16:43] <daftykins> the socket is damaged, we're told
[16:43] <petrvs> daftykins: whooptie
[16:43] <daftykins> you could have all the RAM in the world.
[16:43] <nogoodnamesleft> buy larger module, but check the laptop can handle it. they are weird and proprietary.
[16:43] <rahulprodev> reborn socket damaged
[16:43] <reborn> that's problem.
[16:44] <nogoodnamesleft> 2 gig is enough anyway
[16:44] <nogoodnamesleft> if you're just using the laptop for facebook and the odd bit of letter writing
[16:44] <rahulprodev> Is here anyone want to replace 4 gb with 2 rams of 2 gb :P :P
[16:45] <petrvs> 2 is in fact enough for most anything
[16:45] <petrvs> we have very little things we didn't have in the days when 2GB was the consumers' upper limit
[16:45] <reborn> which is the desktop environment you will have it?
[16:45] <ioria> rahulprodev, use pen drive as external ram chaning the priority ? just a thought
[16:46] <rahulprodev> reborn ubuntu 15.04 just installed
[16:46] <zykotick9> ioria: that's funny...
[16:46] <ioria> ^_^
[16:46] <rahulprodev> ioria, pen drive as a ram never tried...
[16:46] <reborn> have a consider about mate?
[16:47] <rahulprodev> mate?
[16:47] <reborn> ubuntu mate
[16:47] <ioria> neither do i.. i think it's just a swap, not use
[16:47] <ioria> sure
[16:47] <rahulprodev> not yet I will check it
[16:47] <ioria> rahulprodev, the problem is changing the priority... i don't know how it affects the ram
[16:48] <rahulprodev> if ubuntu not going me give big issue with 2gb - 64bit then 2 gb is enough for me.
[16:48] <petrvs> it won't
[16:48] <rahulprodev> aha! then it's fine
[16:48] <vitimiti> rahulprodev, I'm using it in a 1.5GB laptop and it goes nicely
[16:48] <rahulprodev> vitimiti, 64bit?
[16:49] <vitimiti> rahulprodev, yes, and UEFI
[16:49] <rahulprodev> vitimiti, hm then I don't need to worry about it.
[16:49] <rahulprodev> I just don't want to lose my another socket. :D :D
[16:49] <ioria> /proc/sys/vm/swappiness
[16:50] <rahulprodev> I checked
[16:50] <rahulprodev> giving me number: 60
[16:50] <rahulprodev> ioria, what it means?
[16:51] <ioria> you can increase or decrease the use of swap
[16:51] <reborn> laptop or desktop?
[16:51] <petrvs> rahulprodev: that's default, IIRC
[16:51] <ioria> Setting this parameter to a low value will reduce swapping from RAM, and is known to improve responsiveness on many systems.
[16:51] <ioria> quote
[16:51] <joshh20> Is Ubuntu 15.04 a stable release or still beta?
[16:52] <ioria> 0-100 valu
[16:52] <petrvs> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Swappiness
[16:52] <petrvs> the way Linux does swappiness by default is arguably a bit silly
[16:52] <petrvs> though for most people it will never be an issue
[16:54] <rahulprodev> reborn laptop
[16:54] <reborn> oh, that's suck.
[16:55] <rahulprodev> what do you think, what right value I can set of swap so it improve my system?
[16:55] <rahulprodev> ioria
[16:56] <petrvs> rahulprodev: it'll probably be fine with the default
[16:56] <ai6pg> Ubuntu 14.10 is available.
[16:56] <pantato> i like watching things upgrade
[16:57] <rahulprodev> petrvs, ok, I was reading the wiki link you given... it tells about 0, 1, 10, 60 and 100
[16:57] <ioria> no clue
[16:57] <rahulprodev> default will be fine :)
[16:58] <petrvs> it will be fine
[16:58] <petrvs> most people use the default, most people don't even know what swappiness is
[16:58] <petrvs> you don't need to fine tune everything on your first day
[16:58] <petrvs> or perhaps ever
[16:58] <ioria> rahulprodev, you really damaged your ram socket ?
[16:59] <rahulprodev> aha, and I don't want to damage my any other part of laptop... lol.
[16:59] <ioria> right
[16:59] <rahulprodev> ioria yup :) i opened my laptop for cleaning, then i close, and after that it was working fine...
[16:59] <rahulprodev> but in between it get stuck at somepoint and when ever i restart
[17:00] <rahulprodev> only fan starts very fast and no bios comes in no boot.
[17:00] <ioria> fu......
[17:00] <rahulprodev> haha my laptop just overcome from trauma. :P
[17:00] <rahulprodev> first I thought graphic card damaged.
[17:01] <rahulprodev> but after messing with ram I just realized
[17:01] <rahulprodev> my ram socket story :P :P :P
[17:02] <Munchie> hello.
[17:02] <ioria> weel, at the end it's just a socket ... a good technician could change it
[17:02] <rahulprodev> Hii
[17:02] <Munchie> i have a problem. i am hopeing you can help me.
[17:02] <ioria> technician
[17:02] <rahulprodev> ioria, I think vaio socket is difficult to find.
[17:02] <aphid> after an update to 15.04 it boots to black screen text login.. if I do that it lists a few errors that all end in: Read-only file system
[17:03] <rahulprodev> maybe if i find.. then I'll be happy.
[17:03] <Munchie> yes i am a technician.
[17:03] <Guest54815> Hi, wonderful people ! I'm having trouble getting my wifi on an older (2009) macbook air working. Anybody got some knowledge to share ? :)
[17:03] <rahulprodev> thanks, ioria, petrvs and others for help :)
[17:03] <OerHeks> !mac
[17:03] <Munchie> i have a users macbook pro. they lost there entire mac os due to ubuntu desktop error.
[17:04] <Munchie> when you turn there mac on there is only a folder with a ? on it nothing else.
[17:04] <Munchie> i have tryed to find booting methods to reinstall but nothing.
[17:04] <aphid> looks like this http://askubuntu.com/questions/613334/ubuntu-15-04-problem-booting-with-systemd
[17:05] <ioria> Munchie, around here should be a mac magician.... i don't remember who, sorry
[17:05] <Munchie> no
[17:06] <Munchie> could you find someone please i have been at this for ohurs.
[17:06] <Munchie> honestly i hate to tell the customer i can't fix it.
[17:06] <Guest54815> Ok, so Ubuntu does actually suggest a broadcom driver in "addtional drivers", however the wifi does not start working after enabling and rebooting. Any suggestions ? or is there a more appropriate place for me to ask this ?
[17:07] <ioria> bloody broadcom
[17:07] <Guest54815> Yep !
[17:07] <rking> @Guest54815, Have you actually made sure the driver activated.
[17:07] <brainwash> !broadcom
[17:07] <Munchie> ioria if i show you a picture of my problem would that help?
[17:07] <raphus> sometimes you have to select and click apply multiple times until it works
[17:08] <raphus> i had to repeat that 3 times for my macbook air
[17:08] <daftykins> Munchie: so to be sure, you're wanting to fix the OS X install?
[17:08] <Guest54815> @rking not any further than the "additional drivers" application tells me that I'm using the driver.
[17:08] <ioria> he 's coming ,,,,, :)
[17:09] <Munchie> dafty. the mac only shows a folder with a question mark on it and nothing else
[17:09] <daftykins> Munchie: that is not what i asked
[17:09] <wub_wub> Anyone got any idea what could be wrong here: http://i.imgur.com/lIHz9ns.jpg During startup after upgrading to 15.04 xubuntu it just freezes on that point and stays like that
[17:09] <Munchie> yes i want to fix or recover the os x install.
[17:10] <rking> @Guest54815, Do you see the dot next to the additional driver you need. Many times ( on 14.04 ) using any proprietary or additional drivers takes several times for it to actually read it then download and install.
[17:10] <daftykins> Munchie: alright, so have you used the recovery boot keypress after the chime sound?
[17:10] <ioria> Guest54815, have you tried sudo apt-get install bcmwl-kernel-source and then again Add Dri ?
[17:10] <raphus> @rking +1 as i said i needed to repeat that step 3 times
[17:10] <raphus> at MBA 6,2
[17:10] <rking> @Guest54815, Or you can change from "Main" server to "United States" server and alot of times that fixed it not downloading.
[17:10] <Guest54815> @rking Yes the dot is definitely there.
[17:10] <Munchie> wich is option and c right. yes.
[17:10] <marcanuy> !thanks
[17:11] <rking> @raphus, I know, but there's other ways to fix it and that doesn't always work.
[17:11] <marcanuy> heh
[17:11] <daftykins> Munchie: no it's command+option+R
[17:11] <Munchie> ok i will try it.
[17:11] <Guest54815> @ioria Well, unfortunately I dont have any USB converter thingy to access ethernet. So.. I'm completely offline.
[17:12] <raphus> I read that there is one specific broadcom card which is impossible to get to work with ubuntu 14.04
[17:12] <petrvs> raphus: good story
[17:12] <Munchie> nope still the same thing the folder with question mark.
[17:13] <daftykins> Munchie: so what happened with Ubuntu to allegedly cause this?
[17:13] <Guest54815> @raphus That would be unlucky.. Got the model no of that one ? I believe mine is BCM4321
[17:13] <ioria> Guest54815, it's difficult, then
[17:13] <_war10ck_> Is gcc-5 out for Ubuntu 12.04.5?
[17:14] <Munchie> there was a error wile it was installing.
[17:14] <rking> I've never seen ANY bcm43 that wouldn't work with Ubuntu after some nudging.
[17:14] <rking> and that's with 900+ desktops
[17:14] <daftykins> Munchie: alright boot the ubuntu live session again
[17:14] <Guest54815> @raphus Yes. Maybe I should try 14.04 - have only tried 15.04.
[17:14] <Munchie> then the mac showed up with a folder and question mark.
[17:14] <daniel3_> Is there a new method now to allow X11 to "anyone". When trying to do dpkg-reconfigure x11-common I get a problem with "x11-common.service is masked."
[17:14] <Munchie> nothing is booting. the only thing bootig is the folder with a question mark.
[17:14] <rking> @guest54815, I would really stick with the LTS releases unless you have the knowledge to fix stuff like that on your own. But I don't know your tech level so ;)
[17:15] <daftykins> Munchie: you have to hold left alt whilst a flash drive or DVD is plugged in, after the chime - to boot another device.
[17:15] <ioria> Guest54815, you don't have ethernet ?
[17:15] <rahulprodev> Hey, anyone please check, I'm getting this error, [3179.708100] usb 1-1.2: device not accepting address 82 error -71
[17:15] <ioria> change the port
[17:15] <Munchie> i did.
[17:16] <daftykins> Munchie: then try again please.
[17:16] <Munchie> do you want me to redownload the installer make flashdrive bootable then try again?
[17:16] <Munchie> ok.
[17:16] <Guest54815> @rking Well I'm a developer and have been running Ubuntu for the past 5 years. So I feel comftable enough around the free world. I just happen to need a cheap laptop, and a refurbished Macbook air seemed like a good investment at the time...
[17:17] <daftykins> Munchie: why doesn't the flash drive still exist from earlier?
[17:17] <Guest54815> @ioria Unfortunately not, no..
[17:17] <OerHeks> _war10ck_, no, http://packages.ubuntu.com/vivid/gcc , but there is a ppa, use at your own risc ( build 1 hr ago ) https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-toolchain-r/+archive/ubuntu/test
[17:17] <daftykins> Munchie: also consider zapping the PRAM to help this situation, the key combo is on the Apple website.
[17:17] <Munchie> because it was the customer that was installing it not me.
[17:17] <rking> @guest54815, Yeah, I know what you mean. Have you tried the recommendations in that help doc !broadcam
[17:17] <ioria> Guest54815, i see, then get a usb eth
[17:18] <Munchie> send link to the keys combo please and thank you.
[17:18] <raphus> @Guest54815 Broadcom BCM43xx 1.0 (7.15.166.24.3) is just fine... thats what my system report/wifi sais
[17:18] <daftykins> Munchie: no.
[17:18] <Guest54815> @rking I think I have, but I'll have another look !
[17:19] <Munchie> i will try the installation myself. right now.
[17:19] <raphus> @Guest54815 did you install ubuntu with network access?
[17:19] <rking> @Guest54815, If not, pm me a little bit later. I have a lot of experience with those issues.
[17:19] <Guest54815> @raphus Broadcom BCM43xx 1.0 (5.10.131.36.16) - appearently not close enough.. ¨
[17:20] <nogoodnamesleft> Guest54815, did you try to usb tether it to your phone, then -fully- update it? That fixed 2015 macbook air wifi for me
[17:20] <Guest54815> @rking Awesome, thanks !
[17:21] <Guest54815> @nogoodnamesleft I did not even think of that ! I'll try that!.
[17:22] <raphus> @nogoodnamesleft @Guest54815 i forgot to mention thats what i did too... apt-get update && apt-get upgrade && apt-get install bcmwl-kernel-source
[17:23] <Guest54815> Great - Will reboot now, and try it out !
[17:23] <raphus> good luck :)
[17:24] <Munchie> king. he mac won't even bring up booting methods. its in limbo with the folder question mark
[17:24] <Munchie> dafty.
[17:26] <daftykins> Munchie: i think you should focus on getting this persons data back from their OS X install first.
[17:27] <Munchie> i have there data. all i need to do is find a installer for the mac.
[17:27] <Munchie> i dont have anything other than a dmg yosemite installer,
[17:27] <daftykins> Munchie: they install their OSs over the internet these days, but only when the recovery partition can be booted. so you might be out of luck
[17:27] <Munchie> i am trying to find a way to boot the file to install the os.
[17:28] <daftykins> taking it to an Apple store might be the easiest if you're near one
[17:28] <daftykins> otherwise you have to convert the dmg to an ISO / img and put that on a flash drive
[17:28] <Abhishek> ubuntu 14.04 not showing up wifi signals ! how to solve this ?
[17:28] <raphus> yeah it helped me too... it was free (back in the snow leopard days)
[17:28] <raphus> *they
[17:28] <Munchie> so your saying that there is no way of fixing this?
[17:29] <brainwash> is this the Apple support channel?
[17:29] <daftykins> brainwash: no i'm just feeling charitable today since allegedly Ubuntu hosted an entire Mac :D
[17:29] <raphus> @brainwash no its the general ubuntu channel
[17:29] <Munchie> after all what ever the error was it was ubuntus installation.
[17:29] <Abhishek> i think wifi drivers are missing or something. how to solve this Dell inspiron 3521 ?
[17:29] <daftykins> Munchie: well zap the PRAM like i said, then boot a live session and we can see what's left of the disk... but i think it's game over, yes
[17:30] <daftykins> Abhishek: check 'additional drivers' for any offers of wifi drivers
[17:30] <Munchie> the disk is empty.
[17:31] <daftykins> Munchie: i'd like to see evidence of that first hand. if you're going by the image, that's wrong
[17:31] <Munchie> if we can find away to get past the question mark folder everything would be so much easyer.
[17:32] <raphus> @all should we launch a channel for ubuntuOnMac support?
[17:32] <daftykins> Munchie: that's the Mac's EFI saying what's on the disk isn't bootable. you don't just *get past it* without following what i've already said :)
[17:33] <OerHeks> from apple https://support.apple.com/kb/DL1433?locale=en_US recovery disc assistant dmg
[17:33] <Abhishek> daftykins: no wifi drivers are showing up
[17:33] <daftykins> Munchie: so i'm guessing at this point that you tried to let Ubuntu's installer resize the OS X partition?
[17:33] <daftykins> OerHeks: sadly not much help without a working mac to use to put it on a flash drive :)
[17:34] <ioria> Abhishek, try sudo apt-get install bcmwl-kernel-source reboot and check again
[17:34] <Munchie> no. because i still can't boot from the flashdrive because the combo keys arn't working.
[17:35] <daftykins> Munchie: right but you said you had to redownload Ubuntu before?
[17:35] <OerHeks> Munchie, tried to reset the macbook pro ?
[17:35] <Munchie> is there specific buntu iso/ dmg i need to install with mac?
[17:35] <raphus> nope
[17:35] <raphus> the regular one works just fine
[17:35] <raphus> 64bit of course
[17:35] <OerHeks> http://www.wikihow.com/Reset-a-Macbook-Pro
[17:36] <thms> Buying a macbook to install ubuntu
[17:36] <daftykins> i have suggested this OerHeks but Munchie didn't seem to want to look it up, i mentioned PRAM reset
[17:36] <thms> Sell it, buy a dell XPS
[17:36] <thms> Done.
[17:36] <Ocnios> Hello, I have a windows machine I do my day to day work on - I have ubuntu 14 installed on a server, is there a program i can install / use on windows to 'RDP' into Ubuntu?
[17:37] <daftykins> we don't know that that's the story here, but yes it does sound quite futile - thms. less judging might be helpful here however
[17:37] <thms> Even better, go in some street without camera, then simulate someone stealing it, sell it, buy 2 '15 XPS
[17:37] <Munchie> lol thats because i tryed that method already.
[17:37] <petrvs> Ocnios: tigervnc's vncviewer
[17:37] <raphus> @Ocinos use vnc
[17:37] <Munchie> i have been at this for ohurs.
[17:37] <Ocnios> would tightvnc work?
[17:37] <petrvs> Ocnios: yes
[17:37] <Ocnios> aesome, thanks
[17:37] <daftykins> Munchie: well come back once you've booted ubuntu again anyway :)
[17:37] <daftykins> Munchie: otherwise, an apple store is your best bet
[17:37] <raphus> @Ocinos yes, but for that to work you first have to install a desktop-environment of you choice
[17:38] <raphus> i would suggest a lightweight like KDE or XFCE
[17:38] <OerHeks> or the ##apple guys on #freenode ?
[17:38] <Munchie> send me link to download the right ubunto iso for mac.
[17:38] <Ocnios> raphus I'm confused... I have Ubuntu 14 w/ GUI
[17:38] <daftykins> Munchie: ubuntu.com .
[17:38] <Munchie> and i will contact the customer.
[17:38] <huggo> is this the help channel?
[17:38] <daftykins> huggo: yes
[17:38] <raphus> @Ocinos which GUI is on the server
[17:39] <huggo> i got this: 1394 guid are invalid in both cmos and flash
[17:39] <huggo> when i boot up the pc
[17:39] <Ocnios> It's a dell server blade running vsphere so Ubuntu is a VMachine
[17:39] <petrvs> Ocnios: needs more v's
[17:40] <OerHeks> huggo seems like you try to boot from 1394 firewire
[17:40] <raphus> @Ocinos afaik ubuntu-server comes with no gui
[17:40] <huggo> OerHeks :) how?
[17:40] <huggo> oh wait
[17:40] <Ocnios> raphus it's not ubuntu-server
[17:40] <huggo> i wrote on a website that i should use DOS envioment
[17:40] <Ocnios> It's Ubuntu 14 'desktop'
[17:40] <huggo> OerHeks ^
[17:41] <raphus> @Ocinos alright then just install tightvnc. If the tech specs are above 2gb ram and Dual-Core (set for the VM) unity should work just fine over tightvnc
[17:41] <huggo> but then i thought again, maybe i could use a bash envioment OerHeks
[17:41] <Munchie> dafty what is the recomended usb making method for mac i usally use yummy but idk if that will work for mac.
[17:41] <raphus> @Ocinos just try apt-get install tightvnc-server if its not performant enough you can still install XFCE or KDE
[17:42] <isaquealves_> /msg Nickserv identify 16234516
[17:42] <daftykins> Munchie: what OS are you making it from? Windows? i assume you meant YUMI
[17:42] <petrvs> should be fine, although you might have to disable accelerated window effects
[17:42] <petrvs> isaquealves_: bummer man
[17:42] <OerHeks> isaquealves_, time to change password
[17:42] <raphus> xD
[17:42] <Savemech> lol
[17:42] <Munchie> i have yosemite but its in dmg.
[17:42] <OerHeks> https://freenode.net/faq.shtml#changepass
[17:42] <petrvs> isaquealves_: you can set that in xchat's config, so you don't have to do it manually
[17:42] <daftykins> OerHeks: that's not a login but a verification
[17:43] <OerHeks> daftykins, oh, you are right, got triggered by Nickserv
[17:43] <Munchie> but if i am going to install ubuntu on this mac what do you recomend to use for usb booting?
[17:44] <petrvs> are there really special steps for macs?
[17:44] <raphus> there are several ways... i use refind how about you guys?
[17:44] <OerHeks> i thought that installing on a mac was pretty simple , see the mactel pages..
[17:45] <daftykins> Munchie: UUI or YUMI are fine
[17:45] <Munchie> ok. makeing it now
[17:45] <raphus> i thought so too... cuz nearly all googler use macbooks and their goobuntu...
[17:46] <delinquentme> what are documented / known bugs awaiting fixes referred to as?
[17:46] <raphus> i wonder how they survive without the pci-iSight... their meetings are mainly in hangouts i heard
[17:46] <Savemech> guys i got kernel panic, if i do installation on btrfs at 15.04, i think this is not ok
[17:47] <OerHeks> delinquentme, CVE ? http://people.canonical.com/~kernel/cve/pkg/ALL-linux.html
[17:47] <xubuntu_> ubuntu中文频道是那个
[17:49] <OerHeks> Savemech, there are known issues with btrfs https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/1445252
[17:49] <isthisreallife> hi
[17:49] <petrvs> isthisreallife: 'fraid it is
[17:49] <petrvs> xubuntu_: #ubuntu-zh, IIRC
[17:49] <petrvs> xubuntu_: make that #ubuntu-cn
[17:49] <isthisreallife> why i get the software on this computer is up to date when i run sudo update-manager -d
[17:50] <isthisreallife> i have 14.04
[17:50] <isthisreallife> and would like to upgrade to 15.04
[17:50] <daftykins> isthisreallife: because you should never run that. you have to update to 14.10 first :)
[17:50] <isthisreallife> hmm
[17:50] <isthisreallife> how?
[17:50] <EriC^^> sudo do-release-upgrade
[17:50] <raphus> or just clean-install... its the best choice in any case
[17:50] <petrvs> ...
[17:50] <isthisreallife> EriC^^ i did run this command
[17:51] <isthisreallife> and i still have 14.04
[17:51] <OerHeks> isthisreallife, the -d(evelopment) option should lead you to 15.10 , only when you have 15.04
[17:51] <wub_wub> Hey guys, could someone point me in the right direction on how to solve this: http://i.imgur.com/lIHz9ns.jpg I can't start my xubuntu install after "upgrading" to 15.04
[17:51] <EriC^^> isthisreallife: type grep Prompt /etc/something/something
[17:51] <EriC^^> isthisreallife: /etc/update-manager/release-upgrades
[17:52] <OerHeks> wub_wub, hold shift@boot to boot in recovery?
[17:52] <isthisreallife> grep Prompt /etc/update-manager/release-upgrades
[17:52] <isthisreallife> Prompt=lts
[17:52] <isthisreallife> ?
[17:52] <EriC^^> yeah change lts to normal
[17:52] <isthisreallife> what do i need to type?
[17:52] <wub_wub> OerHeks, that works, but I'm not able to find out how to fix the issue and boot into normal environment
[17:53] <EriC^^> sudo nano /etc/update-manager/release-upgrades
[17:53] <wub_wub> I think it has something to do with systemd and networking, but I'm not 100% sure
[17:53] <wub_wub> In hindsight I probably shouldn't have upgraded...
[17:53] <isthisreallife> okay
[17:53] <isthisreallife> changed to normal
[17:53] <isthisreallife> now what
[17:53] <EriC^^> sudo do-release-upgrade
[17:54] <EriC^^> you mean in nano? ctrl+o saves ctrl+x to exit
[17:54] <isthisreallife> yep
[17:55] <davegarath> Hi all, I've a problem with audio. with alsamixer I found channel speaker to 0 I have to make louder this channel to hear something. but after reboot speaker is back 0. I run sudo alsactl store but it seams not work
[17:55] <davegarath> I use ubuntu 14.04
[17:56] <isthisreallife> http://pastie.org/10112063 EriC^^
[17:56] <isthisreallife> i guess something went wrong
[17:57] <ioria> isthisreallife, ppa maybe... do you have them ?
[17:57] <EriC^^> isthisreallife: comment out the ppa's in /etc/apt/sources.list.d/
[17:58] <Ocnios> what does 'nano' do/mean? ex: nano ~/.vnc/xstartup
[17:59] <EriC^^> isthisreallife: sudo sed -i 's/^/#/' /etc/apt/sources.list.d/*
[17:59] <daftykins> it's a text editor
[17:59] <daftykins> Ocnios: ^
[17:59] <xangua> the best would be to complety remove the PPA and packages
[17:59] <xangua> !ppa-purge
[17:59] <EriC^^> isthisreallife: ^ xangua 's comment
[18:00] <Munchie> i see what is going on my customer didnt have proper internet and the iso for ubuntu didnt finish. so i am going to re download this iso and try to see if everything gets fixed then. i will let you know when this is done dafty then you can walk me threw the boot/ install process. =)
[18:00] <UbuntuInstaller> Hi
[18:00] <EriC^^> maybe save whatever you need, and try reinstalling after the update isthisreallife
[18:00] <isthisreallife> so id lost any data?
[18:00] <ioria> isthisreallife, in any case, grep Broken /var/log/dist-upgrade/apt.log says something ?
[18:00] <warus> Дайте на Русский канал
[18:01] <daftykins> Munchie: no thanks!
[18:01] <isthisreallife> yes
[18:01] <ioria> yes what ?
[18:01] <UbuntuInstaller> I managed to create an Ubuntu USB stick but when I boot into it it just behaves like an installer rather than an installed operating system.
[18:01] <EriC^^> isthisreallife: it would remove all the config's of the package i guess
[18:01] <isthisreallife> http://pastie.org/10112075
[18:01] <daftykins> Munchie: you can't just go ahead and install, a Mac won't boot with only Ubuntu on the disk. It needs at least one OS X volume afaiui
[18:01] <warus> #ubunturu
[18:01] <UbuntuInstaller> I managed to create an Ubuntu USB stick but when I boot into it it just behaves like an installer rather than an installed operating system.
[18:01] <UbuntuInstaller> oops
[18:01] <EriC^^> UbuntuInstaller: that's what it does
[18:01] <isthisreallife> ioria ^
[18:02] <EriC^^> UbuntuInstaller: how did you create the ubuntu usb?
[18:02] <warus> ##ubunturu
[18:02] <Munchie> then how do i get this?
[18:02] <UbuntuInstaller> EriC^^, I created it from the Ubuntu DVD I think
[18:02] <UbuntuInstaller> It was a while ago
[18:02] <warus> дайте на русский канал
[18:02] <EriC^^> UbuntuInstaller: what do you mean?
[18:02] <warus> ссылку
[18:02] <OerHeks> installer/live mode: you have to select keyboard language etc. first, that is normal.
[18:02] <master_> Hi
[18:03] <UbuntuInstaller> EriC^^, You boot into the live cd and then there is an option to create a usb
[18:03] <UbuntuInstaller> I think I used startup disc creator, maybe that was wrong
[18:03] <EriC^^> UbuntuInstaller: that just creates a startup usb that installs ubuntu
[18:03] <UbuntuInstaller> EriC^^, OK so I need Ubuntu Ubuntu!
[18:04] <EriC^^> UbuntuInstaller: you have to click on install ubuntu, and select the usb in the manual partitioning
[18:04] <EriC^^> also select where you want the bootloader to be installed
[18:04] <EriC^^> so you don't overwrite the one on your hdd
[18:05] <UbuntuInstaller> EriC^^, I looked into that but then I thought I'm trying to install it to SDA6 (usb) but I'm booted into SDA6 - "right now", won't this cause a problem?
[18:05] <EriC^^> sda6 is not the usb.. i dont think so
[18:05] <ioria> isthisreallife, well, purge ppa and you should sudo apt-get remove those packages
[18:05] <EriC^^> UbuntuInstaller: are you booted in the live usb right now?
[18:05] <devios> weird question for you all: i want to download the package lists from a number of cydia repositories (jailbroken iphone apps) on my ubuntu system - any suggestions for how to accomplish this?
[18:05] <UbuntuInstaller> EriC^^, Other PC
[18:05] <UbuntuInstaller> But yes
[18:06] <EriC^^> UbuntuInstaller: ?
[18:06] <UbuntuInstaller> USB is on laptop but booted up now yes
[18:06] <EriC^^> ok, you can't install to the usb while it's booted
[18:06] <EriC^^> you have to either boot the .iso from grub, or make another live usb/cd
[18:07] <UbuntuInstaller> EriC^^, Yeah I think I just need to move it to the ubuntu on PC and do it there.
[18:07] <isthisreallife> ioria what commands do i need to run? sudo add-apt-repository --remove ppa:whatever/ppa
[18:07] <isthisreallife> ?
[18:07] <UbuntuInstaller> EriC^^, Thanks
[18:07] <EriC^^> UbuntuInstaller: no problem
[18:07] <SCHAAP137> greetings, homies
[18:07] <wub_wub> okay, one last shot before I give up - does anyone have any idea on how to fix this issue http://i.imgur.com/lIHz9ns.jpg so that it'll continue with booting and not freeze on that point
[18:08] <SCHAAP137> anyone else running MATE in 15.04, and noticing that the notification tray icons don't align/center automatically?
[18:08] <UbuntuInstaller> Everything I do these days is a reality inside a reality inside a reality.
[18:08] <EriC^^> isthisreallife: ppa-purge <package>
[18:08] <SCHAAP137> need to change the panel size to force them into aligning properly
[18:08] <SCHAAP137> each time
[18:08] <EriC^^> isthisreallife: it'll remove the ppa and it's configs i think and try to install whatever is in the repos
[18:09] <UbuntuInstaller> Cheers seeya
[18:09] <ioria> isthisreallife sudo apt-get purge package_name
[18:09] <xangua> repository/name actually
[18:10] <ioria> isthisreallife, a sec,,, please4
[18:10] <isthisreallife> :)
[18:11] <ioria> isthisreallife, sudo ppa-purge ppa:repository-name/subdirectory but i think you need to install ppa-purge
[18:14] <isthisreallife> so how do i know what packages to uninstall?
[18:14] <isthisreallife> all of them?
[18:14] <finetundra> has anyone gotten any ubuntu flavor to work on an IBM eServer xSeries 225 type 8647?
[18:16] <daftykins> isthisreallife: what's this, you have PPAs enabled?
[18:16] <daftykins> !ppapurge
[18:20] <ubh> hi all! I need help with 15.04 server for connect to my wifi via cliluw .
[18:20] <ubh> hi all! I need help with 15.04 server for connect to my wifi via CLI.
[18:21] <ubh> followed "3.2" section here---> http://bernaerts.dyndns.org/linux/74-ubuntu/230-ubuntu-setup-wifi-commandline
[18:21] <MonkeyDust> ubh wifi with a server is not wise... and it's better to stick with LTS for servers
[18:21] <ubh> but not success
[18:21] <ubh> hi MonkeyDust: my laptop has eth broken, so only wlan0 is working an the server is a hobby-home project ;)
[18:21] <ubh> *and
[18:22] <King_DuckZ> hello, I'm trying to watch a bluray using vlc, I followed this http://askubuntu.com/questions/140080/playing-blu-ray-using-vlc but I get an error like "bluray error no valid key found in the aacs configuration file"
[18:24] <raphus> hav you installed ubuntu-hidden-features?
[18:24] <daftykins> King_DuckZ: not so sure about VLC usage, but certainly makemkv will help what you're trying to do.
[18:26] <King_DuckZ> daftykins: isn't it to rip movies?
[18:26] <daftykins> King_DuckZ: not anymore
[18:26] <daftykins> that's all i can say ;)
[18:29] <King_DuckZ> daftykins: it's not in the repository, is it?
[18:30] <daftykins> King_DuckZ: no
[18:31] <King_DuckZ> ah nvm I just found this http://wiki.ubuntu-it.org/Multimedia/Video/MakeMKV
[18:31] <King_DuckZ> looks promising
[18:32] <ubh> No one?
[18:33] <raphus> @ubh did you try this?: http://askubuntu.com/questions/294257/connect-to-wifi-network-through-ubuntu-terminal
[18:41] <plinio> plosionirc.net
[18:42] <SineDeviance> hi. i tried to install ubuntu 15.04 and my house burned down. i tried removing it from the hospital bed in the burn ward, but it seems you can't uninstall evil. is there a priest available?
[18:43] <creinke> So, I upgraded two machines to Vivid yesterday -- today I find them both complaining "No space left on device". Both of them have a huge file at "/var/lib/apt/lists/partial/security.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_dists_vivid-security_main_source_Sources.bz2" -- apparently as large as the filesystem has space for.
[18:43] <MonkeyDust> SineDeviance find more jokes in #ubuntu-offtopic
[18:43] <SchrodingersScat> !ot | SineDeviance
[18:43] <ioria> SineDeviance, what's up ?
[18:44] <EriC^^> SineDeviance: well, :D
[18:44] <SineDeviance> if no priest is available, i
[18:44] <SineDeviance> i'll* gladly accept a techromancer
[18:44] <SineDeviance> :D
[18:44] <SineDeviance> sorry guys, had to
[18:44] <SineDeviance> carry on!
[18:45] <eggbeater> MonkeyDust: is that even a channel?
[18:45] <SchrodingersScat> eggbeater: quite
[18:46] <ioria> SineDeviance, 15.04 it's not properly a lts ... 16 will be i heard
[18:46] <EriC^^> SineDeviance: what exactly blew up?
[18:48] * creinke assumes he can delete this file.
[18:52] <Nooby_One> hello
[18:52] <Nooby_One> looking for some help with HPLIP in ubuntu 14: my printer does not show
[18:53] <MonkeyDust> eggbeater is what a channel?
[18:54] <ioria> Nooby_One, try sudo service cups restart
[18:55] <Nooby_One> @ioria... i just type in terminal what you typed there? just copy/paste?
[18:55] <ioria> Nooby_One, yes
[18:55] <stacks88> Running ubuntu server 14.04.2, so i ran apt-get update;apt-get upgrade and a few of the packages it wants me to update are: mysql-client-5.5 mysql-client-core-5.5 mysql-common mysql-server mysql-server-5.5 mysql-server-core-5.5 and so the problem right now is my guy is running some mysql tasks that are putting the mysql processes to work, using up cpu etc. I don't want to interrupt or have
[18:55] <stacks88> mysql be restarted, screwing up any potential progress or stuff hes doing. So ive been holding back on upgrading those packages. my question is: How can i find some sort of release log, change log, or somewhere to find out the importance of these packages? like what if the reason why ubuntu wants to upgrade these packages are due to some security update? How would i even know? It just says The
[18:55] <stacks88> following packages will be upgraded:, so i thought maybe there is a URL or site or place i can go to , to read about what is different in these new mysql packages or upgrades, or to determine if i can hold off a bit longer or not. any ideas?
[18:56] <Nooby_One> ok
[18:56] <Nooby_One> done
[18:56] <Nooby_One> now?
[18:56] <ioria> Nooby_One, check if hp shows,
[18:57] <Nooby_One> nope, still no devices found
[18:57] <OerHeks> Nooby_One, what hp printer exactly?
[18:57] <Nooby_One> hp deskjet 5525
[18:57] <Nooby_One> however, the problem might actually be with the printer as supposed to ubuntu
[18:58] <ioria> Nooby_One, is it up ?
[18:58] <Nooby_One> @oerheks... just a personal question... seen you around here a few times... just by the name... Nederlander of Belg? ;)
[18:59] <Nooby_One> @ioria... yes, printer is turned on
[18:59] <Nooby_One> wifi light is lit as well
[18:59] <OerHeks> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HpAllInOne
[19:00] <ioria> Nooby_One, sudo hp-setup
[19:00] <ioria> Nooby_One, wifi not usb ?
[19:00] <Nooby_One> @oerheks... the problem with your link is the first line: connect usb cable, mine came without :s
[19:01] <Nooby_One> @ioria... same thing, no devices found
[19:01] <OerHeks> Nooby_One, oh, you need one to setup, AFAIK
[19:01] <ioria> Nooby_One, wifi is working ?
[19:01] <Nooby_One> i'm on wifi on the laptop, and the printer wifi light is lit up as well
[19:02] <Nooby_One> @oerheks, there was no cable with purchase, it was a wifi setup
[19:02] <ioria> Nooby_One, that thing should have the wifi configuration on it
[19:03] <ioria> Nooby_One, SetoUp button
[19:03] <Nooby_One> @ioria, do you mean the settings on the printer?
[19:03] <ioria> Nooby_One, yep, if it's wifi
[19:03] <xangua> you first need to connect the printer to your wifi
[19:04] <Nooby_One> @ioria... looking for it
[19:04] <Nooby_One> @ioria, what do you need?
[19:05] <Nooby_One> i have printed an info sheet
[19:06] <ioria> Nooby_One, well, if it's wifi, it's like a pc... should visualize a Network... an A.P., a router
[19:07] <Nooby_One> @ioria... there are many numbers, names, etc... can you be more specific in what you need to know? ip? DSN? ...?
[19:08] <ioria> Nooby_One, press SetUp and move keys looking for wifi Network... it's the first installation ?
[19:09] <Nooby_One> no, it used to work (but not within HPLIP, but stand alone in ubuntu) however, for some reason it stopped working on my dualboot laptop both in win and ubuntu, even after a factory reset
[19:10] <Nooby_One> according to the touchscreen wireless and wireless are on
[19:10] <ioria> Nooby_One, if you have the Manual scroll to wireless network
[19:11] <Nooby_One> however, the IP page of the printer says that i am connected to a network, but not to the internet... :s
[19:11] <ioria> Nooby_One, you have entered the passphrase ?
[19:12] <Nooby_One> you mean password? yes
[19:14] <ioria> Nooby_One, and in Ubuntu, from printers - Add you can find anything ?
[19:15] <trippel> I just installed a copy of Ubuntu Mate 15.04 and found eth0 not being specified in /etc/network/interfaces Is that correct that way?
[19:15] <Nooby_One> yes, from printers it is on the list and testpage is printing
[19:15] <Nooby_One> i think the problem is the printer itself
[19:16] <Nooby_One> is it normal to have 0.0.0.0 as DSN?
[19:16] <ioria> Nooby_hp-makeuri IP-ADDRESS
[19:17] <Nooby_One> ???
[19:17] <thms> Is auth_basic a custom module ?
[19:17] <Nooby_One> sorry, ioria, don't know what you mean now
[19:17] <thms> nginx: [emerg] unknown directive "auth_basic_user" in /etc/nginx/nginx.conf:41
[19:19] <Nooby_One> just for your info... if i suddenly don't answer is because i fell out of energy... there's quite a storm going on here, and it is custom to fall without energy
[19:19] <Nooby_One> @ioria... what do you mean with "hp-makeuri IP-ADDRESS"?
[19:20] <MadWasp> hi guys, i'm having quite some problems with my graphics card. i just recently installed ubuntu and the driver from their website does not work. it's ati radeon hd4850 x2
[19:20] <brunch875> Looks like hard drive failed :( computer boots to grub rescue. Just in time to install the new 15.04! Problem is liveUSB kernel panics when trying to mount root fs.
[19:20] <brunch875> Does anyone know how I can delete all partitions?
[19:21] <Guest45254> when xubuntu will release xfce 4.12 for xubuntu 14.04 lts
[19:21] <Nooby_One> welcome back ioria... what did you mean by "hp-makeuri IP-ADDRESS" ?
[19:22] <ioria> Nooby_One, it's the uri of the printer
[19:22] <gr4> hi guys
[19:23] <Nooby_One> i'm sorry, i don't get it? do you want me to give it to you, or do you want me to do something with it? i guess you're talking about the IP?
[19:24] <ioria> Nooby_One, yes, but try first sudo hp-check -r
[19:26] <MadWasp> can somebody help me with my graphics driver?
[19:26] <daftykins> not until you give details :)
[19:26] <Nooby_One> @ioria... is this the pastebin? http://pastebin.com/ftNwYkJG
[19:26] <MadWasp> it's a hd radeon 4850x2
[19:26] <MadWasp> and i'm running 14.04
[19:27] <MadWasp> i alrdy tried the drivers from the amd page
[19:27] <MadWasp> but that only crashed my xserver
[19:27] <daftykins> your card has moved to legacy status because it's too old and AMD dropped support, there is no choice beyond the open source driver 'radeon'
[19:27] <MadWasp> where do i get that one?
[19:28] <daftykins> you can't use it with any supported ubuntu versions
[19:28] <ioria> Nooby_One, you have reintall cups, i think
[19:28] <Nooby_One> cups??
[19:28] <daftykins> MadWasp: basically your choice is to either run the default driver, upgrade, or run another OS
[19:28] <MadWasp> upgrade my card?
[19:28] <daftykins> yes
[19:28] <MadWasp> what if i choose an old version of their driver?
[19:28] <MadWasp> the card is still pretty good
[19:28] <ioria> Nooby_One, yes, it's the main printing system on linux
[19:29] <daftykins> MadWasp: like i just said twice, you can't use any driver with currently supported Ubuntu versions :)
[19:29] <daftykins> 12.04.1 was the last version the legacy driver worked with
[19:29] <MadWasp> that sucks
[19:29] <daftykins> yep you have AMD to thank there
[19:30] <MadWasp> what about this 2d driver from the appstore?
[19:30] <daftykins> no idea what you're referring to there
[19:30] <ioria> Nooby_One, sudo apt-get update and sudo apt-get install cups
[19:30] <Nooby_One> but i can print from ubuntu... it is just that it does not show up in HPLIP, and on the webpage using my printer's IP there's a problem with the DSN
[19:30] <MadWasp> daftykins: "binary ati-x.org driver"
[19:31] <Nooby_One> doing the update as we speak
[19:33] <ioria> Nooby_One, "warning: ubuntu-14.04 version is not supported. Using ubuntu-13.10 versions dependencies to verify and install..."
[19:33] <ioria> Nooby_One, i don't believe it
[19:33] <Nooby_One> @ioria... what are you referring to? cups or HPLIP?
[19:34] <ioria> Nooby_One, the output of hp-check -r
[19:34] <testrio> Hi guys how can i change my kernel ?
[19:34] <testrio> the easy way to do that ?
[19:35] <daftykins> testrio: shouldn't need to.
[19:35] <eggbeater> testrio: Update it. Or pick an older one from the GRUB list
[19:35] <daftykins> MadWasp: you can try but i'm pretty sure bad things will happen
[19:35] <Nooby_One> ok?
[19:35] <testrio> i have 3.19 i want 3.18
[19:35] <ioria> Nooby_One, "warning: HPLIP-Installation: Auto installation is not supported for ubuntu distro 14.04 version "
[19:36] <eggbeater> testrio: Try picking it from Grub's boot list when you start up.
[19:36] <ioria> Nooby_One, i don't believe it again
[19:36] <testrio> ok
[19:37] <ioria> Nooby_One, installed cups ?
[19:37] <MadWasp> daftykins: so, 300€ to use ubuntu? :D
[19:37] <Nooby_One> http://localhost:631/admin ioria... do you know this page? HP is directing me to it
[19:38] <cliebow> cups
[19:38] <ioria> Nooby_One, add Printers is very promising ...
[19:39] <daftykins> MadWasp: pretty sure you can already use it with the open source 'radeon' driver, or you could just avoid unity (the ubuntu desktop environment) and try something else like ubuntu MATE / xubuntu
[19:39] <Nooby_One> when clicking add printer it asks for a username
[19:40] <MadWasp> daftykins: it does work, firefox is pretty laggy and doesn't play videos
[19:40] <ioria> Nooby_One, should be 'admin' 'admin' ... but it's your router :-)
[19:40] <MadWasp> daftykinds: so if those problems start 30 minutes after installing, i'm guessing there will be more coming
[19:40] <daftykins> MadWasp: what kind of videos?
[19:40] <Nooby_One> so, the password and name of my homenetwork?
[19:40] <MadWasp> daftykins: just regular youtube
[19:41] <daftykins> MadWasp: does the HTML5 player work at all? or is this after putting the ancient flash v11 on?
[19:41] <ioria> Nooby_One, yep
[19:42] <MadWasp> daftykins: uses flash
[19:42] <basso> Flosh is tha best
[19:42] <basso> Adobo flosh playah
[19:42] <Nooby_One> no, it is not the name of my network and it's password
[19:43] <daftykins> MadWasp: try without so it uses the HTML5 player, but i think you won't find much success. if you were planning on gaming that card is a game over
[19:43] <ioria> Nooby_One, if you type the ip of your router in browser you should have the same window
[19:44] <OerHeks> name would b ssid /
[19:44] <ioria> Nooby_One, those are the username and passwd
[19:44] <MadWasp> daftykins: works on windows, the only games i planned would be like a bit of LoL or starcraft II, but i could switch to windows for that. i'm mainly using it for programming and daily business
[19:44] <Nooby_One> so, how to find what i need?
[19:44] <daftykins> MadWasp: ah not such a bad situation after all then. try chrome also to see if resolves your issues
[19:45] <SchrodingersScat> MadWasp: I try to use youtube-dl and mpv to avoid actually loading a youtube page, idk if that helps
[19:45] <MadWasp> would you recommend nvidia for long term use?
[19:45] <MadWasp> i don't wanna run into this situation again
[19:45] <ioria> Nooby_One, try first admin admin ... if not working you set up different credentials
[19:46] <ioria> Nooby_One, or look OerHeks above
[19:46] <MadWasp> daftykins: i just bought an ssd to run ubuntu on it, might as well buy a card then. nvidia or amd?
[19:46] <daftykins> nvidia i would say
[19:47] <daftykins> well we can't predict who is going to chop off older cards, they all do it really
[19:48] <MadWasp> daftykins: k, at least it got my other hardware :D
[19:48] <ruth> Something happened and we get an extra tab everytime we get on firefox. This is the tab, and we cannot figure out how to get it off. chrome://spdlmovies-a/content/newtab/newtab.html
[19:48] <daftykins> ruth: check your extensions for anything you don't recognise, ctrl+shift+A
[19:49] <Nooby_One> the SSID from my printer? that says HP-Print-B5-Deskjet 5520 series, it also shows up in my network list, however, i do not have a password for it
[19:49] <harminuriel> Hello, can someone help me? I'm going mad, is it possible to use mbrola voices with the Orca screen reader?
[19:50] <ioria> Nooby_One, SSID it's the name of your Lan
[19:50] <Nooby_One> so, the name of my homenetwork then? that i tried alreade, it did not work
[19:50] <Ocnios> does Ubuntu 14 Unity (desktop not server) accept SSH incomming by default?
[19:51] <k1l_> Ocnios: no
[19:51] <ioria> Nooby_One, the password (passphrase) you should know it
[19:51] <k1l_> Ocnios: on desktop the ssh server is not standard
[19:51] <Nooby_One> yes, i did it alreay, the site did not accept it
[19:51] <MadWasp> daftykins: since i have a lot of harddrives, i chose to manually make my partitions, i don't think i'm using lvm, can i still switch to it?
[19:51] <Nooby_One> the name of my network + it's password, and it did not work
[19:51] <ruth> Thank you! We figured it out!
[19:52] <daftykins> MadWasp: "sudo parted -l" will show whether there's any LVM going on. if you installed with it you'd have to reinstall.
[19:52] <Ocnios> k1l_ thanks. I was trying to follow this guide and I'm stuck on the last step, probably because desktop doesn't accept SSH https://www.digitalocean.com/community/tutorials/how-to-install-and-configure-vnc-on-ubuntu-14-04
[19:52] <MadWasp> daftykins: there wasn't even an option in the manual mode :(
[19:53] <daftykins> MadWasp: for what?
[19:53] <MadWasp> lvm
[19:53] <daftykins> oh to use it, *shrug*
[19:53] <marbangens> is it normal to just see some weird green stripes when booting? Or is it a known plymouth problem?
[19:53] <MadWasp> and it says my partition table is gpt now
[19:53] <daftykins> i don't understand it so i never use it.
[19:54] <ioria> Nooby_One, sudo usermod -aG lpadmin <username>
[19:54] <Caleb--> ever since i updated to 15.04, movie thumbnails started appearing with film strips
[19:55] <k1l_> Ocnios: install openssh-server
[19:55] <Ocnios> k1l_ any suggestions an an apt-get to... thanks!
[19:55] <Nooby_One> it did nothing?
[19:55] <ioria> Nooby_One, and restart cups and use your system username and passwd
[19:55] <Caleb--> i noticed that totem.thumbnailer was rewritten, so i copied ffmpegthumbnailer.thumbnailer over it, removed ~/.cache/thumbnails and restart nautilus. but i still get the same problem :S
[19:56] <Nooby_One> ok!!
[19:56] <raphus> @Ocinos after installation switch the default port to any other number than 22
[19:56] <ioria> Nooby_One, restart cups sudo service cups restart go to http://localhost:631/ in browser
[19:56] <Nooby_One> now i choose what? the network printer (which is mine) or the HPLIP option
[19:56] <Nooby_One> now i choose what? the network printer (which is mine) or the HPLIP option
[19:56] <boubacarpenter> bonjour, je suis nouvel utilisateur de ubuntu studio je voulais savoir s'il y avait qq un ici qui serai me parler un peu de ce systeme
[19:57] <ioria> Nooby_One, your printer i yhink
[19:57] <OerHeks> !fr | boubacarpenter
[19:57] <vlt> Caleb--: What problem?
[19:58] <raphus> @boubacarpenter try /join #ubuntu-fr
[19:58] <Ocnios> k1l_ YAY!!!!
[19:58] <boubacarpenter> thank's raphus
[19:59] <Nooby_One> ok, i printed a testpage using cups
[19:59] <ioria> Nooby_One, no, try to print a file you edited
[20:00] <Nooby_One> but it still does not show up in HPLIP
[20:00] <Nooby_One> printed a file, ok
[20:01] <ioria> Nooby_One, open gedit or what you have write some and print it
[20:01] <Ocnios> k1l_ ugh -- no connection could be made because the target machine actively refused it (msg from TightVNC) but I can now SSH into it...
[20:02] <Nooby_One> i did it already, and it printed ok
[20:02] <Nooby_One> but still no show in HPLIP
[20:02] <ioria> Nooby_One, it is working or not ?
[20:02] <raphus> Ocnios you have to 'service ssh start'
[20:02] <Nooby_One> the printer is working ok, but still not showing in HPLIP
[20:03] <ioria> Nooby_One, who cares :-P
[20:03] <ioria> sorry
[20:03] <Ocnios> raphus Job is already running: ssh
[20:03] <raphus> @Ocnios and you still cant connect?
[20:04] <raphus> @Ocnios wait were you the one running ubuntu-desktop on a VM on a server?
[20:04] <Ocnios> yes
[20:04] <Ocnios> I can use putty on WIN to SSH in, but tightvnc fails
[20:05] <huggo> hello
[20:05] <huggo> anyone who can tell me the way to linuxmint-help channel
[20:05] <raphus> @Ocnios did you run /etc/init.d/vncserver start
[20:05] <Nooby_One> @ioria... i do... because i still have the same problem with the printer
[20:05] <Ocnios> yes and i just did -kill :1 and it killed it then i restarted it and still can't connect
[20:06] <Ocnios> raphus
[20:06] <ioria> Nooby_One, what problem ?
[20:06] <Nooby_One> the status says that my printer is not connected to the internet
[20:06] <treelol_2> huggo: /connect irc.spotchat.org
[20:06] <raphus> which system do you use to establish the connection?
[20:06] <OerHeks> !mint
[20:06] <ioria> Nooby_One, http://hplipopensource.com/hplip-web/index.html
[20:06] <Nooby_One> and i think that's why i can not connect to HPLIP
[20:06] <Ocnios> raphus Windows Server 2012 R2 (LAN)
[20:06] <Rave1> huggo it is on the spotchat server
[20:06] <Nooby_One> http://h30434.www3.hp.com/t5/Printer-Networking-and-Wireless/Photosmart-5520-No-internet-connection-post-update-download/td-p/2686239 look at this link
[20:06] <ioria> Nooby_One, it's another story
[20:06] <huggo> ty
[20:07] <huggo> Ravel
[20:07] <ioria> Nooby_One, http://hplipopensource.com/hplip-web/index.html
[20:07] <raphus> @Ocnios i meant the system you try to connect from
[20:07] <harminuriel> Hello, can someone help me? I'm going mad, is it possible to use mbrola voices with the Orca screen reader?
[20:08] <Ocnios> raphus I am connecting from Win 2012 R2 to Ubuntu 14 desktop using TightVNC (with an open active SSH putty session from Win 2012 R2 to Ubuntu 14)
[20:08] <Nooby_One> it says to go to the IP page of my printer, and chance the IP manually, however, it also asks to change the DSN.... and there's the problem, for some reason, i am unable to acces and modify my DSN
[20:08] <Foorack> Hey
[20:08] <raphus> @Ocnios okay .. which tool do you use? realvnc?
[20:08] <Ocnios> TightVNC
[20:09] <daftykins> Nooby_One: *DNS* you mean?
[20:09] <raphus> @Ocnios did you activate NAT?
[20:09] <ioria> Nooby_One, for hplip you can find it in Package Manager ... for DNS you can use Net Man
[20:09] <raphus> @Ocnios on the VM
[20:10] <Nooby_One> oops... yes... using various languages at the same time :s
[20:10] <ioria> Nooby_One, if you set them in your router and you can't acces it you have to reset your router
[20:10] <Nooby_One> do you have by accident an HP printer?
[20:10] <ioria> Nooby_One, one , but not wireless
[20:11] <Ocnios> raphus yes. oddly, i can connect using the LAN IP and TightVNC
[20:11] <cats> w
[20:11] <Ocnios> vs localhost:5901
[20:11] <cats> er
[20:11] <cats> not sure how that happened
[20:11] <cats> I was switching tabs too fast
[20:11] <Nooby_One> ok, so anyway, that's the real problem i think, i can not install it correctly into my network, and i already tried a factory reset on the printer
[20:12] <raphus> @Ocnios okay than im out of knowledge. Cant help you from distance. whats with kil ...
[20:12] <ioria> Nooby_One, one , no, on the router
[20:12] <Nooby_One> ???
[20:12] <Ocnios> raphus thanks, as long as I can get this far i should be able to muddle through. was just trying to find a way to access it without using vsphere
[20:12] <ioria> Nooby_One, can you access your router ?
[20:13] <Ocnios> though now i need to remove xfce and replace with unity
[20:13] <ioria> Nooby_One, it's the gateway usually
[20:13] <Nooby_One> sorry for asking, being a noob and such... you mean the IP from my modem? like the same thing that i did for the printer, but now for the modem?
[20:13] <raphus> @Ocnios i think you are 90% done... i wouldn't use unity if you connect via vnc
[20:14] <ioria> Nooby_One, in the browser bar type your gateway aip
[20:14] <Ocnios> raphus what GUI would you reccomend?
[20:14] <ioria> ip
[20:14] <Nooby_One> ok, i'm in ;)
[20:15] <raphus> @Ocnios something lightweight... KDE XFCE
[20:15] <raphus> @Ocnios everything but unity or gnome
[20:15] <ioria> Nooby_One, without username and passwd ?
[20:15] <Nooby_One> is that correct???!!!! the time it says 1970, jan, 3???!!! ... no, i needed password and username
[20:15] <Ocnios> raphus thanks, next step is to try and get http://www.fogproject.org/ going
[20:16] <Nooby_One> i'm in the router/gateway.... and the time indicates 1970????!!!!
[20:16] <helo> hmm... /me wonders why his mouse and all video has started skipping every second or so consistently
[20:16] <ioria> Nooby_One, no, maybe we are a bit further
[20:17] <ioria> Nooby_One, sorry for asking.... if your printer is working, what are you looking for ?
[20:17] <petrvs> Nooby_One: 1970 is when Unix time started
[20:17] <raphus> @Ocnios didn't work with that yet. Whats the problem there?
[20:18] <Ocnios> raphus nothing yet, haven't started. it's all new to me. Any way you kow of (like Unity remote) to remote to a unity desktop through a win os
[20:18] <petrvs> Ocnios: vnc
[20:19] <Nooby_One> i am looking to connect my printer into HPLIP and to connect my printer to the internet to use all services, as it did when i first installed it, and now does not work anymore even after factory reset
[20:19] <raphus> @Ocnios i tried rdesktop but i think thats only to connect linux to windows through rdp not sure
[20:19] <Ocnios> petrvs VNC+Unity is not reccomended by anyone i've spoken to
[20:19] <petrvs> Ocnios: just change the wm and it'll be fine
[20:20] <Ocnios> wm?
[20:20] <petrvs> window manager
[20:20] <ioria> Nooby_One, have you HPLIP installed ?
[20:20] <Nooby_One> yes
[20:20] <compdoc> I only wish Unity worked with vncserver
[20:20] <compdoc> then I wouldnt have to install Mate
[20:20] <Ocnios> petrvs in TightVNC? How would I change the WM?
[20:20] <ioria> Nooby_One, reinstall them
[20:20] <krav> anyone know if there's any kludge to get around https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/nss-pam-ldapd/+bug/1029656
[20:21] <krav> it's driving me nuts. ldap needs to actually work.
[20:21] <petrvs> Ocnios: no on the Ubuntu side
[20:21] <daftykins> Nooby_One: i think this is a better task for HP Support.
[20:21] <krav> :(
[20:21] <petrvs> or you can tell Ubuntu's VNC to start a whole new session with any wm
[20:21] <Ocnios> compdoc what's MATE/
[20:21] <Nooby_One> i did not find an HP channel, and also, the problem arises using their steps, and can not find any other help
[20:21] <compdoc> a 2D desktop, that supports the same programs that install on Unity (gnome)
[20:22] <Nooby_One> all the links say to change the DNS, however, that's the problem, on the IP page of my printer i, for some reason, can NOT modify my DNS :s
[20:23] <Nooby_One> @ioria... can you tell me in terminal how to uninstall and reinstall please?
[20:23] <pavlos> Ocnios, MATE is a desktop environment, http://mate-desktop.org/
[20:23] <Ocnios> thanks!
[20:23] <daftykins> Nooby_One: no you don't find them on IRC - you *phone* them via standard support avenues
[20:23] <mac33> hi to everyone
[20:23] <Ocnios> i'll try mate instead of xfce4
[20:23] <ioria> Nooby_One if you open Package manager and type HPLIP you can remove, purge and update
[20:23] <daftykins> Nooby_One: because this is a printer query, not an Ubuntu issue i'm afraid.
[20:24] <ioria> Nooby_One sorry, have to go wish you solve it
[20:24] <raphus> @Ocnios why do you want a desktop environment at all?
[20:25] <krav> ok. anyone know a way to start a service not using rc.local or init.d when you start the computer?
[20:25] <Nooby_One> no need to apologize.... thank you very much for the patience!
[20:25] <Ocnios> raphus because i'm a n00b loser who sucks at life and bin/bash
[20:25] <raphus> @Ocnios xD dont be so hard on yourself
[20:25] <krav> Ocnios: takes time to stop being a n00b loser. we've all been there.
[20:25] <krav> give it 2 years and you'll be giving out the advice.
[20:26] <pavlos> krav, you could add your app to the startup applications, 14.04
[20:26] <Nooby_One> @daftykins... i understand it is a printerquery, i was just trying my luck for some help, there's no live support channel in the country where i am now
[20:27] <Ocnios> Easier to call myself a n00b than have others throw the label on me, but yes, the fact I was able to 90+% follow that VNC on ubuntu guide with no help shows how far i've come. I know wayyyy more than I did a few years back and at least now ubuntu works defacto with my wireless cards
[20:27] <Ocnios> it's the one thing that kept me from using it as OS.main all these years
[20:27] <eggbeater> Ocnios: yo, I think I'm even more of a n00b than you. You're not alone :D
[20:27] <daftykins> Nooby_One: i see, well sadly that doesn't make it one for here.
[20:27] <krav> pavlos: that's what i'm doing already :P that's init.d
[20:27] <petrvs> Ocnios: again, the only thing that should matter to unity+vnc is the window manager, compiz
[20:27] <petrvs> try with any other window manager
[20:28] <raphus> @Ocnios afaik this channel is mostly troll-free :)
[20:28] <krav> pavlos: it's also unfortunately a headless server, no gui
[20:28] <krav> Ocnios: you're doing fine :)
[20:28] <Ocnios> raphus good to know
[20:29] <Nooby_One> @daftykins... i am sorry... did i offend you? i was just asking for help, and someone was so nice to help me with it... even if it in the end turned out to be not an entirely ubuntu problem
[20:29] <krav> Nooby_One: what are you trying to do?
[20:29] <Ocnios> is there a terminal cmd to change resolution for unity desktop? i have a vsphere window open but it's at 800x600 and i can't see enough of the screen to use the display tool to resize
[20:30] <krav> Ocnios: you might be able to use randr to change the display size.
[20:30] <krav> I'm not really familiar with unity
[20:30] <pavlos> krav, if I understand, server is non-gui, you could add the service into one of the rc.d/ levels right?
[20:30] <Nooby_One> @krav... it seems i have a network problem with my HP printer
[20:30] <krav> pavlos: have done that.
[20:30] <daftykins> Nooby_One: no, it's just not the channel rules :>
[20:30] <krav> pavlos: this is why it's frustraiting. :)
[20:30] <krav> pavlos: it's got a bug.
[20:30] <Nooby_One> my ubuntu is connected with it, but it seems my printer is not connected to the internet, and i think that's the cause that it is not connecting to HPLIP
[20:30] <krav> but the bug doesn't have a fix, it's been open to 2 years.
[20:30] <krav> Nooby_One: :(
[20:31] <krav> no fun
[20:31] <krav> Nooby_One: does your pirinter need to be internet capable?
[20:31] <Nooby_One> yes
[20:32] <Nooby_One> sending scans to my email, printing from my cellphone, etc and also, i think, either because of faulty HPLIP or the faulty network, i can not scan into ubuntu
[20:33] <fernando__> hola
[20:33] <Nooby_One> @krav... if you have a suggestion... shoot ;) .... i'll be back in 5
[20:34] <fernando_> Olá, alguém brasil?
[20:35] <pavlos> !br| fernando_
[20:35] <fernando_> obrigado
[20:35] <pavlos> fernando_, you'rewelcome
[20:35] <MadWasp> what is wrong with the captcha at ubuntu one, that is hilariously hard
[20:36] <Sidoniuns> Fernando, e ai? Sou do brasil
[20:39] <MadWasp> can anybody help me with the captcha at ubuntu one? i just can't read it... and i'm human btw
[20:39] <Ocnios> robot^
[20:39] <MadWasp> it is hilariously hard
[20:39] <Ocnios> Just kidding, but it would change for anyone who see's it, and yes it is.
[20:40] <MadWasp> how to solve it then?
[20:40] <eggbeater> try reloading the code
[20:40] <raphus> @MadWasp if you give me your e-mail-adress and your password i can register you xD
[20:40] <MadWasp> i have been reloading it for around 150 times now
[20:41] <Nooby_One> back
[20:41] <eggbeater> MadWasp: Heck, try the audio Captcha
[20:42] <MadWasp> there is no such thing
[20:42] <pavlos> MadWasp, can you zoom your desktop?
[20:42] <fernando28> ubuntu mate 14.04 to ubuntu mate 15.014 upgrade how to ??????????
[20:43] <MadWasp> lol, no captcha needed on their website
[20:43] <loa> are not ubuntu one dead?
[20:43] <pavlos> ubuntu one stopped july 2014
[20:43] <loa> or file storage called other way?
[20:43] <loa> time machine here.
[20:44] <TJ-> MadWasp: What URL are you seeing this CAPTCHA on? I don't see one for the login or create acount options at one.ubuntu.com
[20:44] <MadWasp> the software center asked me to login to ubuntu one
[20:44] <raphus> ubuntu one is not the same as the ubuntu account. the file storage is dead but the account is needed in order to buy software
[20:44] <MadWasp> TJ- i did it now, i registered on their website, i tried registering in the app
[20:45] <MadWasp> i need that captcha code :D
[20:45] <MadWasp> just to troll people
[20:45] <MadWasp> :D
[20:45] <kostkon> raphus, ubuntu one is the ubuntu sso now
[20:45] <MadWasp> is that captcha code open source somewhere?
[20:55] <Guest57115> i can not run startx and when i run sudo this error happen : unable to open /var/lib/sudo/mohammad/tty1 : no such file or directory
[20:55] <k1l_> Guest57115: dont use startx. start the lightdm that will start the xserver for you
[20:56] <k1l_> Guest57115: and obviously dont run everything with sudo/root, like irc, too
but it is mint linux and i don know chanell of mint linux please tell me what is the name of chanell and server of mintlinux
[20:58] <k1l_> !mint | Guest57115
[20:58] <k1l_> its even on another irc network
[21:00] <Fishscene> Greetings. I'm trying to figure out why Ubuntu Server keeps throwing an error saying port 5222 is already in use. But I can't seem to find What is listening on that port. The *only* command that returns a possible result is: "grep -w 5222 /etc/services". Which yields xmpp-client and jabber-client. Attempting to remove either of these throws "unable to locate xmpp-client/server"
[21:00] <Fishscene> Any ideas on what might be using port 5222 or how to remove those services?
[21:01] <OerHeks> Well, Jabber a popular instant message protocol is based on XMPP, so stop the Jabber service ?
[21:01] <OerHeks> then remove
[21:01] <Guest57115> my properties system are : cpu : Intel pentium (R) Dual and RAM : 1.5 G is good ubuntu 15.04 for it ?
[21:02] <lilis> Heya guys, I dd-ed Ubuntu 15.04 image and tried to boot it on my desktop but it always fails to boot. Anybody has the same issue?
[21:02] <raphus> @Guest57115 should work with that
[21:02] <lilis> Different error came out after I re-dd it too
[21:02] <stacks88> Fishscene try fuser -v 5222/tcp
[21:03] <stacks88> or lsof -ni|grep 5222 or netstat -tunap|grep 5222
[21:03] <Pici> Fishscene: What process is actually using that? sudo netstat -tanp | grep 5222 (or sudo ss -np | grep 5222)
[21:03] <Fishscene> I can't see the process with "sudo netstat -tanp | grep 5222", but it shows something is listening on the port
[21:04] <stacks88> try fuser and lsof
[21:05] <Fishscene> fuser -v 5222/tcp returned nothing at all.
[21:05] <Fishscene> lsof -ni } grep 5222 yielded nothing
[21:06] <Fishscene> err… } = |
[21:06] <Pici> Fishscene: What is throwing the error that says that 5222 is in use?
[21:07] <k1l_> lilis: did you check the md5sum? what error is it?
[21:07] <Fishscene> Pici: Regenerating error… just a minute..
[21:08] <Pici> Fishscene: actually, I'm stepping away from the keyboard, someone else might be able to assist, but that info should be helpful
[21:08] <Ocnios> what's the apt-get for MATE
[21:08] <Ocnios> nevermind
[21:11] <Fishscene> Error log: http://pastebin.com/3rVmLmqX
[21:14] <tonyt> while installing wine through ubuntu software center, ubuntu software center window dims after installing wine about 70%. now that its dimmed it just sits there and does nothing. anyone have any ideads?
[21:14] <tonyt> *ideas
[21:14] <raphus> is it grey?
[21:14] <tonyt> ya
[21:15] <tonyt> it got darker
[21:15] <raphus> thats like in windows when a window is just white
[21:15] <raphus> it means its stuck
[21:15] <raphus> just quit it and try again
[21:15] <tonyt> k
[21:15] <eggbeater> tonyt: try getting wine through apt-get
[21:15] <tonyt> k eggbeater
[21:15] <lilis_> k1l_: I checked the md5sum and it's alright
[21:15] <lilis_> But now that I think about it, I am using 2G usb drive
[21:15] <k1l_> lilis_: what is the error then?
[21:16] <lilis_> It came out different everytime I flash it, sometimes a kernel panic, sometimes boot: out of memory, and one other error
[21:17] <lilis_> I pressed enter several times before it got to "boot: out of memory" though
[21:18] <lilis_> Otherwise, it was just stuck at some weird assembly-debugger-like UI
[21:18] <k1l_> is the ram ok?
[21:19] <lilis_> I haven't tested the RAM intensively but it should be fine
[21:19] <lilis_> I can boot Arch and Fedora
[21:19] <lilis_> But perhaps 2G is not enough? Could that be a reason?
[21:20] <lilis_> Maybe it's corrupted?
[21:20] <k1l_> no. 2gb is enough. dd copies bit for bit so its exact the size of the .iso
[21:20] <k1l_> thats what i meant with check the md5sum
[21:20] <k1l_> and make sure to dd to ssdb and not sdb1 or such
[21:20] <k1l_> *sdb
[21:20] <Ocnios> k1l_ what would the last line be for #!/bin/bash xrdb $HOME/.Xresources startxfce4 & ||||| for MATE ubuntu-mate-desktop
[21:20] <k1l_> when sdb is your usb drive
[21:21] <Ocnios> startubuntumatedesktop & ?
[21:21] <krav> Nooby_One: it seems really unlikely that most of that would require your computer.
[21:21] <k1l_> Ocnios: you dont do any of that. just choose mate at the login screen
[21:21] <lilis_> I tried to use Startup Disk Creator as well and it complained about not enough free space even though it says it has 1.9G of free spad
[21:21] <Ocnios> k1l_ for VNC i thought i had to do this before i connect....
[21:22] <k1l_> Ocnios: hmm, i am not familiar with vnc and such
[21:22] <Ocnios> k1l_ when i connect via VNC there is no option to pick mate, it just loads the desktop
[21:22] <Ocnios> or GUI rather
[21:22] <raphus> u can if you typ 'nano /etc/init.d/vncserver
[21:22] <raphus> *type
[21:23] <raphus> you have to google the command for mate but it must be possible
[21:23] <Ocnios> raphus i'd rather preset it if possible
[21:23] <Ocnios> ok thanks
[21:23] <raphus> that is presetting...
[21:23] <Ocnios> well this is nano ~/.vnc/xstartup
[21:23] <raphus> if you modify that file it will be permanent
[21:24] <Ocnios> i just dont know if it's startmate / startubuntumatedesktop / startubuntu-mate-desktop
[21:24] <mw44118> hi -- anybody in here can help me set up a static IP address on one interface, and a dhcp on another?
[21:24] <Ocnios> vnic?
[21:24] <Ocnios> in ubuntu? or two phys interfaces
[21:25] <mw44118> Ocnios: in ubuntu -- i have eth0 and wlan0
[21:25] <raphus> "$VNCDESKTOP Desktop" &
[21:25] <raphus> mate-session &
[21:25] <raphus> try that
[21:25] <mw44118> wlan0 is a dhclient. i want eth0 to have a static IP
[21:25] <Ocnios> so click connections at the top bar > edit connections > click the interface > click edit
[21:25] <Ocnios> raphus thanks
[21:26] <mw44118> Ocnios: sorry, this is server; need to use CLI
[21:27] <Ocnios> http://www.howtogeek.com/howto/ubuntu/change-ubuntu-server-from-dhcp-to-a-static-ip-address/
[21:27] <mw44118> Ocnios: thanks
[21:29] <rking> Anyone else here used IBM Notes on Ubuntu. I am noticing compiz seems to cause notes to freeze for a little bit ( mouse locked out from interacting with the program ) never had an issue before.
[21:29] <petrvs> what's an ibm notes?
[21:29] <lilis> k1l_: I tried different usb drive and now it works :/
[21:30] <petrvs> lilis: laptop?
[21:30] <lilis> desktop
[21:31] <lilis> Maybe that usb is faulty or something
[21:31] <lilis> Lol
[21:31] <petrvs> happens
[21:31] <petrvs> front usb ports tend to be not as great, too
[21:31] <petrvs> as they're usually little mini daughter boards or the like
[21:32] <k1l_> well, usb pen drives die. they are just very cheap chips.
[21:32] <kubunto> is here a way to undo mv src ~/*?
[21:32] <petrvs> kubunto: 'mv src ~/*' ?
[21:32] <lilis> Thanks guys
[21:32] <kubunto> petrvs: a command in that format just fucked over a lot of my data
[21:33] <petrvs> kubunto: in what way?
[21:33] <kubunto> removed all files in my home directory not within a hidden dir
[21:33] <gryzor> kubunto: no undo
[21:33] <petrvs> interesting
[21:33] <gryzor> time to restore backup
[21:34] <petrvs> kubunto: and what was src?
[21:34] <Ocnios> raphus no that's not the right cli entry :(
[21:36] <raphus> @Ocnios hmm fuck that worked for Mint Rebecca (17.1) thats basically Ubuntu 14.04
[21:36] <Ocnios> I'm going to try again i hate sessionS not session
[21:36] <Ocnios> had^
[21:37] <raphus> :P
[21:37] <TiK> Hi
[21:37] <petrvs> hi
[21:38] <Ocnios> nope, VNC is all garbled and shit
[21:38] <Ocnios> stuff (sorry)
[21:38] <lilis_> Yay logged in from my new Ubuntu!
[21:38] <petrvs> lilis_: gj
[21:39] <Ocnios> lilis_ congrats!!
[21:39] <lilis_> Haha thanks again guys
[21:42] <hoang> hello
[21:42] <lilis> Heya
[21:42] <raphus> hi
[21:43] <petrvs> ohai
[21:43] <TiK> sup?
[21:43] <hoang> first time on IRC, don't know how to use this app
[21:43] <raphus> its pretty simple
[21:43] <raphus> type /help for commands
[21:43] <raphus> type /list for a list of channels
[21:44] <petrvs> though on this network, /msg alis list *term* is more useful than /list
[21:44] <petrvs> TiK: pimpin' hoes, earnin' that cash
[21:44] <SchrodingersScat> !alis | raphus, there's also the handy alis bot
[21:45] * petrvs sighs
[21:45] <raphus> nice
[21:45] <BlackDalek> Is there any way to stop the top panel from displaying on an external display?
[21:45] <JimboSlice> What is the process plymouth-upstart-bridge doing?, what is its purpose
[21:45] <raphus> you can choose it at the display-app
[21:45] <raphus> @BlackDalek
[21:46] <BlackDalek> I want to have the top panel (indicators, clock, battery, volume etc.) to ONLY show on the main display. How do I get it off the secondary display?
[21:46] <lilis> Plymouth is the boot screen I think, and upstart is the process that starts it?
[21:47] <raphus> @BlackDalek use the Display-App :P or unity-tweak-tool
[21:48] <YeahToast> raphus odd
[21:48] <YeahToast> raphus I got it working, you were right it's mate-session
[21:48] <YeahToast> i had to reboot for it to take hold for some reason
[21:48] <YeahToast> thank you, perfect way to end my work day today, later!
[21:48] <raphus> @YeahToast nice contraz :)
[21:49] <canonicaldroid> Does anyone else have problems with spotify on ubuntu 15.04
[21:50] <JimboSlice> @lilis okay thanks, that make sense, I configured a bash script to run from booth via /etc/rc.local.. and then this plymouth thin turned up in my processes
[21:51] <xangua> http://www.webupd8.org/2015/04/fix-missing-libgcrypt11-causing-spotify.html canonicaldroid
[21:53] <raphus> bye bye everyone :) i had a pretty hard week
[21:53] <raphus> zzzzzZZZZZZZZzzzzzZZZZZ
[21:53] <JimboSlice> I want to have a bash script to run at certain intervalls. is cron job be a good way to implement this? or is it a bad idea?
[21:55] <SchrodingersScat> JimboSlice: afaik cron can do that
[21:56] <circ-user-GRgvO> hi all, quick question. Can someone point me to page download an iso of ubuntu version that used linux kernel 3.4.48?
[21:57] <JimboSlice> yes, from what I understand, that would be a good way to do it.
[21:57] <JimboSlice> @SchrodingersScat thanks
[21:57] <tlt> circ-user-GRgvO, that must be an old one. 12.04 uses 3.13 afaik
[21:57] <tlt> so maybe ubuntu 11 or 10
[21:57] <circ-user-GRgvO> ok thanks
[21:57] <k1l_> circ-user-GRgvO: 12.04 uses 3.2
[21:58] <k1l_> circ-user-GRgvO: what is the reason for that?
[21:58] <tlt> nah 12.04 seems to have used that kernel you're looking for at an early stage, circ-user-GRgvO
[21:58] <BlackDalek> Can't find anything called display-app in the repository... and unity-tweak-tool does not appear to have any option for removing indicator panel from external screen. Does this mean there is no possible way to remover the panel from top of secondary displays?
[21:58] <circ-user-GRgvO> i need to compile some source code to run on another host processor that is running android with a linux kernel 3.4.48
[21:59] <ledil> hello, I need some help with iptables, ive got a server and behind the server is a ftp server .. passive ftp is working, but on active ftp the "ls hangs", any idea ?
[21:59] <k1l_> circ-user-GRgvO: you dont need a kernel 3.4 running for that
[21:59] <circ-user-GRgvO> from my limited knowledge, I though i needed to compile source against the same kernel I will be using the module on
[22:00] <circ-user-GRgvO> id be compiling a kernel module
[22:02] <lilis> You can try getting the Linux 3.4.48 version from kernel.org and compile your module with it
[22:03] <circ-user-GRgvO> @lilis do I need my OS to be running that kernel?
[22:03] <k1l_> what about getting the kernel headers from that other system and compile it with that?
[22:03] <lilis> You don't need to
[22:03] <Bashing-om> circ-user-GRgvO: Not at all sure will help, but if ya want to see all the mainline kernels from the start of ubuntu : http://kernel.ubuntu.com/~kernel-ppa/mainline/ .
[22:03] <lilis> AFAIK
[22:03] <Pinkamena_D> I have been trying to install a specific version of R but i can not seem to. I specify a version with apt-get install r-base-core=3.1.2-1trusty0 but upon starting R I still see R 3.2.0
[22:03] <circ-user-GRgvO> thanks, I was just looking at that link
[22:04] <lilis> If you can't find it there, I guess you'll have to look at github.com/torvalds/linux and download the v3.4.48 tag release
[22:05] <lilis> Err never mind, the Github version doesn't have until v3.4
[22:05] <circ-user-GRgvO> and then when I compile my source I can point the compiler to those kernel headers?
[22:05] <k3asd`> hi there, I was installing the ati proprietary driver and right now the DE doesn't start
[22:05] <k3asd`> I'm using lubuntu 14.04 x64
[22:05] <k3asd`> I want to come back. how can I do?
[22:06] <BlackDalek> is there any way to remove the top panel (indicators, clock etc.) from a secondary display or is it a permanent immovable feature of unity?
[22:06] <lilis> It should automatically point to the kernel headers of the downloaded kernel
[22:06] <lilis> If you use their Makefile system
[22:06] <circ-user-GRgvO> ahh
[22:06] <k3asd`> cd /etc/X11
[22:06] <k3asd`> ls
[22:06] <k3asd`> ops
[22:06] <k1l_> BlackDalek: i am not aware of beeing able to remove it
[22:07] <Bashing-om> k3asd`: What card ? ' lspci -vnn | grep VGA -A 12 ' to show the graphics chip set(s) .
[22:08] <gr33n7007h> /j ##alfa
[22:08] <Kage`> Ok, can someone give me a good direction on disk encryption with Ubuntu, please? Every article (FullDiskEncryption, EncryptedFilesystems, etc.) are contradictory and pointing in circles of each other, claiming each other are bad ideas. So.. what is the recommended standard? luks, cryptsetup, +dm_crypt, ..? Because they all say, "Yes."
[22:09] <k3asd`> Bashing-om: thanks. the video card is AMD/ATI REdwood HDMI Audio [Radeon HD 5000 Series]
[22:10] <k3asd`> Bashing-om: I also see: VGA compatible controller [0300]: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD/ATI] Madison [Mobility Radeon HD 5650/5750 / 6530/6550M]
[22:11] <k3asd`> Bashing-om: Subsytem: Sony Corporation Mobility Radeon HD 5650
[22:12] <k3asd`> Bashing-om: kernel driver in use: radeon
[22:12] <Bashing-om> k3asd`: Well, that card should be supported. How did you try and install a proprietary driver ? OEM or "additioanl Drivers " ? How it is removed depends .
[22:13] <Mete-> newbie question, I did a dpkg --get-selections | grep -v deinstall > ~/packages to check the packages I have installed on this computer, is 3473 too much?
[22:13] <Mete-> this computer is getting slow...
[22:13] <k3asd`> Bashing-om: I was following this link: help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/AMD
[22:14] <EriC^^> Mete-: use this comm -23 <(apt-mark showmanual | sort -u) <(gzip -dc /var/log/installer/initial-status.gz | sed -n 's/^Package: //p' | sort -u)
[22:14] <k3asd`> Bashing-om: point 2 - Installation via the Ubuntu repositories
[22:14] <k3asd`> Bashing-om: I installed via apt-get fglrx
[22:14] <k1l_> Mete-: there is no "too much packages" if you still have free space :)
[22:15] <netameta> anyone know why would virtualbox give me this error: vBoxCLient: the virtualBox Kernel serive is not running exiting
[22:15] <Mete-> Yeah, the problem is probably some services
[22:15] <Mete-> thanks EriC^^ !
[22:15] <k3asd`> Bashing-om: I've done via command line
[22:16] <k1l_> Mete-: installed packages dont slow your system down, as long as they are not services that are running. check it with top/htop what systemload you got and what is using the ressources
[22:16] <netameta> anyone know why would virtualbox give me this error: "vBoxCLient: the virtualBox Kernel serive is not running exiting"
[22:17] <Mete-> yeah, mysql, chromium, etc... just the normal
[22:17] <k1l_> netameta: how did you install virtualbox? was there an error?
[22:18] <reisio> netameta: lsmod | grep -i vboxdrv
[22:18] <k1l_> make sure the kernel headers are installed
[22:20] <Bashing-om> k3asd`: OK, WQe can revert that FGLRX install .. however, have you ever attempted an install of the driver from the AMD web site ?
[22:21] <k3asd`> Bashing-om: the manual installation? not yet? if you want, I can do it
[22:21] <Bashing-om> WQe/We*
[22:22] <Bashing-om> k3asd`: No, I like your idea to revert back to open source .. and then see what you want to do .
[22:22] <k3asd`> Bashing-om: How can I revert back to open source?
[22:24] <canonicaldroid> xangua: you here?
netameta: how did you install virtualbox? was there an error?
netameta: lsmod | grep -i vboxdrv
[22:25] <k3asd`> Bashing-om: I've done: apt-get remove --purge fglrx* && apt-get autoremove
[22:26] <netameta_> k1l_, no there wasnt
[22:26] <k3asd`> Bashing-om: I rebooted the laptop but I did not solve
[22:26] <netameta_> reisio, not show what to do with this command
[22:26] <netameta_> as it does nothing it seems
[22:27] <k1l_> netameta_: so the vbox module is missing. what gives you "uname -a"?
[22:27] <netameta_> Linux netameta-VirtualBox 3.16.0-34-generic #47~14.04.1-Ubuntu SMP Fri Apr 10 17:49:16 UTC 2015 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux
[22:28] <ste____> hi there. I need to run the command start_unicode on each bootup, where is the best place to put this? I would prefer to configure it once - i.e for any user and any users I add in the future
[22:28] <netameta_> k1l_, is what i get from that command
[22:28] <k1l_> netameta_: is this a ubuntu inside a vbox?
[22:28] <Bashing-om> k3asd`: sudo mv /etc/X11/xorg.conf ; sudo apt-get purge fglrx fglrx-amdcccle fglrx-updates fglrx-amdcccle-updates ; sudo apt-get install dkms ; sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg-video-radeon ; sudo apt-get install --reinstall libgl1-mesa-glx libgl1-mesa-dri xserver-xorg-core ; sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg ; sudo update-initramfs -u .... Covers all the bases, when you reboot will now be up on the open source drive "radeon" .
[22:28] <netameta_> k1l_, that is correct
[22:28] <petrvs> ste____: what's it do?
[22:29] <ste____> if run in a terminal it turns unicode mode on which allows the characters to display properly in the terminal, otherwise I get loads of gibberish even though the locales are already set up properly with UTF8 etcetc
[22:29] <petrvs> ste____: what's it run?
[22:30] <netameta_> k1l_, it looks like some thing works fine but many others are simply screwed up
[22:30] <netameta_> like scrolling is not functional
[22:30] <reisio> netameta: lsmod | grep -i vboxdrv && echo "it's some other problem" || echo "you must run 'modprobe vboxdrv'"
[22:30] <ste____> I .. don't know? It appears to be a built in command that most linux distros run on bootup, but for some reason the ubuntu based build on my raspberry pi doesn't do it
[22:31] <k1l_> netameta_: what host OS is that? what version of virtualbox is it?
[22:31] <ste____> So I just need a place to put it so that I don't have to type it every time
[22:31] <EriC^^> ste____: do you have to run it every time you launch a terminal?
[22:31] <EriC^^> or just once
[22:32] <ste____> I'm not sure, sorry
[22:32] <EriC^^> ste____: if you run it, and then open another terminal, do you have to type it again there?
[22:32] <netameta_> Host os, windows 8.1, latest virtualbox so :
[22:32] <k1l_> netameta_: and please show a "dpkg -l | grep linux-header" in a pastebin please
[22:32] <netameta_> k1l_, 4.3.26
[22:33] <ste____> When the gui has launched it's not a problem. It's only when directly plugged into the pi and booting to a command line that the problem occurs. putty etc. is fine
[22:34] <k3asd`> Bashing-om: I'm rebootin, I hope everything works fine. see you soon :) for the moment, thanks a lot
[22:34] <netameta_> k1l_, http://pastebin.com/DWnvDZEB
[22:35] <EriC^^> ste____: i guess you could add it to /etc/profile
[22:35] <lilis> Perhaps you can put the script in .bashrc?
[22:35] <lilis> $HOME/.bashrc
[22:35] <Bashing-om> k3asd`: :) . no luck wished .. hard work gives better dividends .. see ya soonest .
[22:35] <EriC^^> ste____: that would be global for all users, and run once you login
[22:35] <sugoiryu> ste____, have you tried to put the command in /etc/rc.local to have it run on boot?
[22:35] <k1l_> netameta_: hmm, kernel headers are installed
[22:35] <EriC^^> *once when you login
[22:36] <ste____> I will try both, thanks. I just needed to know where it went
[22:36] <netameta_> k1l_, so this warrning is wrong ?
[22:36] <EriC^^> ste____: use profile, .bashrc will run every time you call bash
[22:37] <EriC^^> and don't use rc.local, it will be run by root and it's quite unnecessary
[22:37] <ste____> ok thanks eric
[22:39] <k1l_> netameta_: can you pastebin the whole error you got?
[22:40] <netameta_> Its a red notification the pops on the left of the screen when i restart
[22:40] <k1l_> dpkg -l | grep dkms
[22:41] <netameta_> nothing
[22:41] <k1l_> sudo apt-get install dkms
[22:41] <netameta_> Done
[22:41] <canonicaldroid> k1l_: I cant get spotify to work on 15.04
[22:42] <canonicaldroid> k1l_: I have tried everything
[22:42] <k1l_> if there is no dkms you wont get automated modules
[22:42] <k1l_> netameta_: did it produce the modules now?
[22:42] <k3asd`> Bashing-om: I did not solve :|
[22:42] <netameta_> how do i check that ?
[22:43] <k3asd`> Bashing-om: the monitor remains black
[22:43] <k1l_> lsmod | grep -i vboxdrv
[22:43] <netameta_> k1l_, i mean, i've installed the package you wrote
[22:43] <netameta_> k1l_, nothing
[22:44] <k1l_> sudo /etc/init.d/vboxdrv setup
[22:44] <Bashing-om> k3asd`: There must be other problems .. Let's see what is graphics wise : ' sudo lshw -C display | pastebinit ' .
[22:44] <netameta_> k1l_, sudo: /etc/init.d/vboxdrv: command not found
[22:45] <k1l_> netameta_: what ubuntu version did you install there?
[22:45] <netameta_> 14.04
[22:45] <k1l_> and what install version?
[22:45] <netameta_> what do you mean ?
[22:46] <k1l_> regular desktop install? or server install? or netinstall?
[22:46] <k3asd`> Bashing-om: the command doesn't work
[22:46] <netameta_> Ah not sure, i went http://www.ubuntu.com/download/desktop, picked 64 and downloaded
[22:46] <k1l_> ah ok, so full desktop
[22:47] <k3asd`> Bashing-om: look there: http://paste.ubuntu.com/10881956/
[22:48] <netameta_> k1l_, why is that bad ?
[22:48] <Bashing-om> k3asd`: look at your http://paste.ubuntu.com/10881956/ .
[22:48] <k1l_> netameta_: no, that is not bad.
[22:48] <kostkon> canonicaldroid, we know. there's a fix, hopefully temporary
[22:49] <k1l_> netameta_: sudo apt-get install virtualbox-dkms
[22:49] <kostkon> canonicaldroid, http://www.webupd8.org/2015/04/fix-missing-libgcrypt11-causing-spotify.html
[22:49] <k3asd`> Bashing-om: ok, no problem. thank you
[22:50] <k1l_> netameta_: did you install the "guest additions" already?
[22:50] <netameta_> finished the above
[22:50] <netameta_> yes
[22:50] <netameta_> i think so
[22:50] <netameta_> the ones that make the screen sctrech
[22:50] <k1l_> thinking? or knowing?
[22:51] <netameta_> is it the one that makes the screen strech ?
[22:51] <netameta_> Ah yes
[22:51] <netameta_> i install it
[22:51] <netameta_> injected it though devices
[22:51] <Bashing-om> k3asd`: That output looks good .. A quick check .. have you tried to boot with the "nomodeset" boot option ? Then we go looking into the logs for clues as to what is not happening .
[22:51] <k1l_> sudo apt-get install virtualbox-guest-x11
[22:51] <k1l_> that one should pull everything you need for the guest os
[22:52] <netameta_> The following packages have unmet dependencies:
[22:52] <netameta_> virtualbox-guest-x11 : Depends: xorg-video-abi-15
[22:52] <netameta_> Depends: xserver-xorg-core (>= 2:1.14.99.902)
[22:52] <netameta_> E: Unable to correct problems, you have held broken packages.
[22:52] <netameta_> sorry for the 3 lines
[22:52] <k1l_> sudo apt-get install virtualbox-guest-utils
[22:53] <k3asd`> Bashing-om: I've not tried to boot with the "nomodeset" option
[22:53] <k3asd`> Bashing-om: maybe, is it better verify the logs?
[22:53] <netameta_> k1l_,after utilities i should do the above again ?
[22:54] <k1l_> try a reboot
[22:54] <Bashing-om> k3asd`: Quicker for isolation to try "nomodeset" and see what results.
[22:54] <netameta_> before running virtualbox-guest-x11 ?
[22:54] <k1l_> yes
[22:54] <Bashing-om> !nomodeset | k3asd`
[22:55] <canonicaldroid> koston: I've done that. didnt work
[22:55] <canonicaldroid> koston: when I open spotify i get "Unable to initialize the storage of temporary files"
[22:55] <netameta> k1l_, some graphic capabilites error now
[22:56] <k3asd`> Bashing-om: I'm trying
[22:56] <k3asd`> ubottu: thanks
[22:56] <netameta_> was a bit too fast to catch
[22:56] <Bashing-om> k3asd`: K .
[22:57] <outlaw-666> hey everyone
, i can try rebooting again to get the error
[22:57] <outlaw-666> im trying to play TeamFortress2 on Ubuntu
[22:57] <outlaw-666> i get the OpenGl driver error
[22:57] <outlaw-666> i have this :
[22:57] <gh0strider> hey guys i am about to install ubuntu linux and i am trying to install it along two different os's windows 7 and another linux
[22:57] <outlaw-666> glxinfo|grep "OpenGL version"
[22:57] <gh0strider> i want ubuntu to overwrite the current linux i have
[22:58] <outlaw-666> OpenGL version string: 1.4 Mesa 10.1.3
[22:58] <gh0strider> so when i get to the installation and it says "install ubuntu along side these operating systems"
[22:58] <gh0strider> i choose other
[22:58] <gh0strider> and i select the partition that has the linux os that i want to overwrite with ubuntu right?
[22:59] <gh0strider> will that work?
[22:59] <k1l_> netameta: does it work?
[23:00] <netameta_> k1l_, well there was this warning
[23:00] <outlaw-666> is there a way to update OPENGL drivers ??
[23:00] <k1l_> netameta_: warnings are sometimes only warnings. does it work?
[23:01] <netameta_> k1l_, I dont know what to check to be sure it works
[23:01] <Ryu`> ,
[23:01] <outlaw-666> '
[23:01] <netameta> k1l_, the scrolling issue is gone its seems
[23:01] <Ryu`> hi
[23:02] <Ryu`> tü
[23:02] <Ryu`> :D
[23:02] <outlaw-666> darksoulpt, tuga ?
[23:02] <netameta_> k1l_, window resizing issue is gone
[23:02] <darksoulpt> yeah
[23:02] <Ryu`> no broth noooo
[23:03] <kostkon> canonicaldroid, https://community.spotify.com/t5/Help-Desktop-Linux-Mac-and/spotify-unable-to-initialize-the-storage-of-temporary-files/m-p/524312#M59277
[23:03] <netameta_> k1l_, i think it works fine now
[23:03] <outlaw-666> darksoulpt, sent you PM
[23:04] <darksoulpt> outlaw-666, I'm newbie too and please don't open a private chat window without asking, thx
[23:04] <outlaw-666> ok, sorry
[23:04] <Ryu`> no broth noooo
[23:04] <darksoulpt> np
[23:04] <darksoulpt> if I could help I would
[23:05] <outlaw-666> Can anyone here help me please ?
[23:05] <Ryu`> noo brot nooo
[23:05] <Ryu`> :D
[23:07] <netameta_> k1l_, Yaps seems to work better no error when resizing, scrolling is not problematic. Thanks very very much for help
[23:07] <k3asd`> Bashing-om: none with the nomodeset option
[23:08] <k3asd`> Bashing-om: I installed vesa driver and now the DE system works
[23:08] <k3asd`> Bashing-om: I think that before I'd another video driver because the resolution is busted now
[23:10] <Bashing-om> k3asd`: That vesa driver is there by default as the fall back driver . That is the driver that the "nomodeset" option would use. So not too sure at all what is going on.
[23:10] <k3asd`> Bashing-om: me too
[23:11] <k3asd`> Bashing-om: if you want I can make you see the Xorg.0.log file
[23:13] <Bashing-om> k3asd`: Yeah, we can look at that log file for sure . compare your 'lsmod | grep radeon' to mine : http://paste.ubuntu.com/10882076/ .
[23:14] <k3asd`> Bashing-om: http://paste.ubuntu.com/10882082/
[23:15] <Bashing-om> k3asd`: Look'n at your http://paste.ubuntu.com/10882082/ .
[23:15] <k3asd`> Bashing-om: lsmod | grep radeon returns nothing
[23:18] <warus> #calculate
[23:19] <warus> дайте на русский канал ссылку
[23:19] <daftykins> warus: no thanks
[23:19] <newbie_irc> whatsup
[23:20] <Bashing-om> k3asd`: This too from the log file " [ 14.603] (WW) Warning, couldn't open module ati " // is this on a fresh reboot attempting to boot with the open source driver? or is "vesa" forced ?
[23:20] <k3asd`> Bashing-om: yes
[23:21] <Bashing-om> k3asd`: Yes ?? which is the situation ?
[23:21] <k3asd`> Bashing-om: sorry, it's vesa forced
[23:22] <k3asd`> Bashing-om: without vesa the DE doesn't charge correctly
[23:25] <desiboston> Is there a way to sync box.net to linux folder..ned it badly
[23:26] <stuartuk> hey guys, i was wondering if its possible still to get the old system tray back up on 15.04? I need it back for programs like hexchat. thanks
[23:27] <stuartuk> any help would be appreciated
[23:28] <Bashing-om> k3asd`: Yeah, with the vesa driver .. will not have good resolution .. we need to get yopu up on the "radeon" - open source - driver . So, boot up as normal and post back the URL for the new Xorg.0.log file . See if we can see why the GUI is having problems.
[23:28] <Bashing-om> yopu/you*
[23:28] <k3asd`> Bashing-om: I need to remove vesa driver?
[23:29] <elementary> is elementary any good?
[23:29] <elementary> it looks clean
[23:30] <elementary> but does it run clean?
[23:31] <elementary> There are a lot of persons
[23:31] <Bashing-om> k3asd`: You advised that you installed it .. I have no idea of how and what you did .. but we do need to attempt to boot in a normal mode to get a clean file .
[23:31] <daftykins> elementary: Elementary OS is not on topic here.
[23:31] <k3asd`> Bashing-om: ok
[23:32] <a7i3n> Installed ubuntu 15.04 all went well but the keybindings in i3-wm for sound no longer work... any idea?
[23:32] <k3asd`> Bashing-om: in Italy is a bit late. Tomorrow I will continue to investigate
[23:32] <k3asd`> Bashing-om: I find you?
[23:32] <stuartuk> Hey, sorry to sound like a broken record. Has anybody figured out how to re-enable the old system tray for apps like hexchat etc? Running ubuntu 15.04.
[23:33] <Bashing-om> k3asd`: OK, we do this at your convenience . To this time I still look at this as a driver issue.
[23:33] <k3asd`> Bashing-om: I think so
[23:33] <k3asd`> Bashing-om: thanks again, see you tomorrow
[23:34] <a7i3n> bindsym XF86AudioLowerVolume exec /usr/bin/pactl set-sink-volume 0 -- '-5%' no longer works for example...
[23:38] <whallz> hey, question, i use the tilda dropdown terminal, i have it set to have a transparent background, but the thing is it being transparent overlaying a black background, not the actual window or desktop that's behind it
[23:38] <whallz> any advice?
[23:41] <wafflejock> whallz, guake?
[23:42] <wafflejock> whallz, is that what you're using or same concept? I use guake for a drop down terminal that hides at the top of the screen and has a transparent background and shows the windows behind it
[23:43] <MikeRL> I've noticed a bug in 15.04 that was present in 14.10. I haven't reported in a while, but I have a launchpad account. Any suggestions to refresh my mind? I'll Google as well.
[23:43] <daftykins> suggestions as to what?
[23:44] <MikeRL> Said bug is in system-config-printer. It freezes when I tell it under settings to preserve job history and allow reprinting.
[23:44] <MikeRL> I changed the value in dconf via the GUI and it stuck, though.
[23:46] <MikeRL> In human language, that's Printers > Server > Settings > Advanced Server Settings > Preserve Job Files and press OK.
[23:46] <MikeRL> Then, it freezes up.
[23:46] <whallz> wafflejock: it's called tilda, it's similar to guake
[23:46] <daftykins> !bug
[23:46] <MikeRL> Thanks.
[23:48] <MikeRL> Crap. Says it's not installed. I'll research some more.
[23:49] <MikeRL> But I can run system-config-printer, and it pops up.
[23:51] <snow_usa> hi
[23:51] <snow_usa> hello all
[23:51] <MikeRL> It prints out no corresponding package for both system-config-printer and system-config-printer.py
[23:51] <MikeRL> I tried xprop WM_CLASS on the window.
[23:51] <snow_usa> if [ ! "${BASH_XTRACEFD:-}" ]; then
[23:51] <snow_usa> XTRACE=${XTRACE:-/dev/null}; exec {BASH_XTRACEFD}>"$XTRACE"
[23:52] <snow_usa> could anyone explain me this shell script?
[23:52] <snow_usa> after executing this shell script, echo $BASH_XTRACEFD => 10
[23:52] <snow_usa> i do not know where it is assigned ?
[23:53] <snow_usa> ?
[23:55] <MikeRL> snow_usa, I don't know myself, but hold a bit. People idle a bit on IRC.
[23:57] <daftykins> snow_usa: perhaps going and asking in #bash would make more sense
[23:57] <daftykins> since that's not strictly ubuntu support.
[23:58] <Captonjamason> i need some help
[23:58] <snow_usa> ;)
[23:58] <daftykins> !ask
[23:58] <Captonjamason> and i just told quality about this also
[23:58] <daftykins> you what?
[23:59] <Captonjamason> i went into the #ubuntu-quality chat and told them about my problem
[23:59] <Captonjamason> when i loaded up vivid on my laptop it doesnt look like it installed grub
[23:59] <EriC^^> did you have 2 hdd's?
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2015-04-24-#ubuntu-quality
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[12:56] <elopio> vila: I added needs-recommends and removed python3-evdev from the deps, and didn't get any errors.
[12:57] <vila> elopio: on a phone where it was already installed or on qemu ?
[12:57] <vila> s/or on qemu//
[12:57] <elopio> vila: on a freshly flashed phone, with writable-image
[12:57] <vila> hmm
[12:57] <vila> adb shell apt-cache policy python3-evdev ?
[12:58] <vila> elopio: errr
[12:58] <vila> sorry misread
[12:58] <vila> elopio: if the image is writable you *can* apt-get install, so no errors ?
[12:59] <elopio> hmm, yes. But if the phone is not writable you can't build the package.
[13:00] <vila> elopio: yes, that's why we use adt-run -B ?
[13:00] <elopio> ah, right.
[13:00] <elopio> so I should try again with read-only...
[13:01] <vila> elopio: learning with you ;) I didn't thought about the package build use case ;)
[16:40] <cprofitt> anyone have any idea if the trash action on the unity launcher are in a config file or a binary blob.
[16:40] <cprofitt> trying to figure out how to fix this bug: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/unity/+bug/1445595
[19:52] <roadmr> balloons: so I signed up for a show-and-tell session, but I don't have a blueprint, wiki or pad... so I left those blank. Hope it's ok :)
[20:07] <balloons> roadmr, yes, no worries
[20:07] <balloons> thanks for signing up!
[20:10] <roadmr> balloons: np, hope I don't get booed off the stage :D
[20:10] <balloons> roadmr, heh, I think you'll be just fine :-)
[23:55] <Captonjamason> hello
[23:56] <Captonjamason> i quickly came in here ti get some help and notify you guys of something
[23:56] <Captonjamason> i just put vivid on a disk and installed it on my laptop and it looks like it didnt install GRUB
[23:57] <Captonjamason> i dont know if this is a problem you guys need to fix
[23:57] <Captonjamason> but i also need help
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2015-04-24-#ubuntu-cn
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[00:41] <riaqn> 打个小广告, 欢迎大家加入#linux-cn, 一个欢迎干货的频道.
[01:29] <pity> riaqn: 人好少啊
[01:31] <riaqn> pity: 看见你来了就走..
[01:32] <riaqn> pity: 因为刚建立啊.
[01:33] <pity> riaqn: Channel #linux-cn created Fri Jan 29 05:20:15 2010
[01:34] <riaqn> pity: 这个频道是2010年由GNUdog建立的, 但是一直没有使用. 我最近从他手里接过来开始重建.
[01:34] <pity> Channel #ubuntu-cn created Sun Nov 26 14:42:54 2006
[01:34] <pity> Channel #perl created Sun Nov 26 14:42:39 2006
[01:34] <pity> riaqn: 原来是基狗建的
[01:35] <^k^> 取新帖 timeout
[01:36] <riaqn> pity: 你认识他?
[01:40] <pity> riaqn: 听过他一次演讲
[01:40] <yunfan> riaqn: 抢我生意？
[01:41] <^k^> 新 数据库管理 • ubantu下打mysql出现Can't connect to local MySQL server..... http://forum.ubuntu.org.cn/viewtopic.php?t=469747 ubantu下打开mysql出现Can't connect to local MySQL server through xxxxxxx/mysql.sock.试过网上的方法都不怎么管用，求教一下这个问题到底应该怎么解决或避免啊？表示小白上一次遇到这个问题屡试
[01:41] <^k^> ─> 无果只好重装系统，可是用着用着又莫名其妙的跳出来这个错误，求解救 zz: X-Alvin — 201 …
[01:42] <sjd_zeus> 早上好，各位蛋蛋
[01:42] <sjd_zeus> test
[01:42] <^k^> sjd_zeus:点点点. 09:42
[01:42] <sjd_zeus> 想入手一个机械键盘，各位有何推荐的呀
[01:48] <^k^> 新 云计算 • 自建OpenStack实例 http://forum.ubuntu.org.cn/viewtopic.php?t=469748 自己搭建的OpenStack实例，欢迎有兴趣的同学前去参观，但请勿删除镜像/Images http://os.linuxe.org:81/horizon 用户名 admin 密码 openstack os_win7.png zz: basncy — 2015-04-24 9:45
[01:53] <riaqn> ^k^: 类似云主机东西?
[01:54] <netsnail> 内核哪些需要编译成模块？
[01:54] <netsnail> 哪些需要直接编进内核？
[01:54] <riaqn> netsnail: 理论上所有东西都可以编译成模块. 只要你initramfs做得好.
[01:55] <^k^> riaqn, .. 休息一下 .. 09:55
[01:55] <netsnail> riaqn: 都编进内核呢？
[01:55] <netsnail> riaqn: 不用initramfs
[01:55] <riaqn> netsnail: 也可以啊. 只要你不要选太多东西应该没问题.
[01:56] <netsnail> riaqn: 服务器本来没几个模块
[02:01] <netsnail> USB驱动是不是作为模块比较好，要是经常插入外设这样对内核稳定性更好一些
[02:08] <gfxmode> sjd_zeus: 我最近在看这款 http://detail.tmall.com/item.htm?spm=a1z10.3.w4011-2629811531.122.l4Ls9f&id=18681802099
[02:08] <^k^> gfxmode: ⇪ 包邮Cherry樱桃官方店德国原装机械键盘G80-3494游戏全键无冲红轴 全键无冲 轻盈手感 高端大气 游戏打字皆可 红轴 价格: 元
[02:14] <^k^> 新 Vim和Emacs • 怎么用emacs实现列+1 http://forum.ubuntu.org.cn/viewtopic.php?t=469749 目的：选中一列，然后给数字+1 zz: Gnosis23 — 2015-04-24 10:11
[02:23] <^k^> 新 Ubuntu 15.04 • 新安装ubuntu15.04后无法启动 http://forum.ubuntu.org.cn/viewtopic.php?t=469750 一直用14.04，感觉很稳定。15.04出来后，一时心血来潮，备份后重新安装15.04，结果悲剧了。安装一切顺利，但重启后无法进入系统，停在start modem manager 处不动了，恢复模式下也是乱码，见附件。有没有碰
[02:23] <^k^> ─> 到类似的情况？ 安装麒麟和原版都不行，原版直接黑屏。 zz: lifecycles — 2015-04-24 10:20
[02:33] <sjd_zeus> gfxmode 有茶轴的推荐吗？
[02:33] <BuMangHuo> 早啊大家
[02:33] <sjd_zeus> 即可装逼又不扰民
[02:33] <iMadper> sjd_zeus: g3000
[02:33] <cherrot> 民那桑哦哈哟搞砸姨妈死~
[02:34] <iMadper> sjd_zeus: 机械键盘如果想不扰民, 要选择无钢板的.
[02:34] <iMadper> sjd_zeus: 推荐的是G80-3000 茶轴/红轴 因为没钢板, 轴本身的声音也小
[02:37] <sjd_zeus> iMadper 谢谢，我去看看去
[02:39] <sjd_zeus> jd卖699
[02:43] <^k^> 新 启动和引导 • 安装 VirtualBox 启动失败后无法进入图形界面 http://forum.ubuntu.org.cn/viewtopic.php?t=469751 目前我在尝试 ubuntu 时遇到这样一个情况，在刚安装好后，ubuntu 已经可以正常进入，之后尝试安装 VirtualBox 4.3.xx 本想建立 Windows XP 虚拟机，但建立时报错，当时没有在意，考虑之后再重
[02:46] <iMadper> sjd_zeus: 昂.
[02:51] <cherrot> iMadper, 是啊 键盘为毛要钢板呢
[02:52] <iMadper> cherrot: 工艺问题, 方便把轴固定在上面
[02:58] <yangtongxue> 各位大侠 请问tar.xz里的软件怎么安装 谢谢
[02:59] <cherrot> yangtongxue, 解压 看说明 再安装？
[02:59] <cherrot> yangtongxue, 一个压缩格式 又不是软件包格式 哪里来的“怎么安装”一说
[03:00] <yangtongxue> 用自带解压软件解压出了桌面 里边一堆文件 不知道怎么安装
[03:00] <cherrot> yangtongxue, 那就去软件的网站 或者 readme install 等文件里找线索
[03:10] * pity git commit 可以带格式吗？比如 markdown？
[03:12] <yangtongxue> not be run as root. Exiting. 已经 suduo su了
[03:12] <yangtongxue> 。/start提示这个
[03:12] <yangtongxue> sudo su
[03:13] <yangtongxue> root@yangtongxue:/home/yangtongxue/Desktop/tor-browser_zh-CN# ./start-tor-browser
[03:13] <yangtongxue> The Tor Browser Bundle should not be run as root. Exiting.
[03:14] <BuMangHuo> cherrot: 为嘛键盘要钢板呢
[03:14] <cherrot> BuMangHuo, 问madper
[03:15] <BuMangHuo> pity: commit 要格式？ 有这需求？
[03:15] <gfxmode> sjd_zeus: 没有。我对机械键盘不懂，我都是在 http://www.cherry.cn/ 上找的
[03:15] <^k^> gfxmode: ⇪ Cherry中国官方网站
[03:15] <BuMangHuo> 带了格式别人的客户端也不一定能显示出来吧
[03:16] <pity> BuMangHuo: 攒了几个脚本没写 commit，要分别对这几个脚本描述一下
[03:17] <pity> BuMangHuo: 刚查了，不支持格式，只能加空行
[03:18] <BuMangHuo> pity: 一个一个提交呗
[03:19] <pity> BuMangHuo: 哦，忘了
[03:24] <yangtongxue> 明白了。刚才打扰大家了
[03:31] <^k^> 新 启动和引导 • 有关grub2配置多启动的问题 http://forum.ubuntu.org.cn/viewtopic.php?t=469753 我在原Windows时代因需要通常在机器上同时装多个配置的系统，如Windows XP会安装成3个等等，装入ubuntu后，目前使用的是grub2，在grub2上会自动生成之前至boot.ini然后进分别可以引导进入各个版本的Windows XP，
[03:43] <^k^> 新 新闻和通知 • 庆祝#Ubuntu 15.04#正式发布！转发微博送Ubuntu鼠标垫！ http://forum.ubuntu.org.cn/viewtopic.php?t=469756 庆祝#Ubuntu 15.04#正式发布！转发微博送Ubuntu鼠标垫！ 欢迎关注@校长Ubuntu http://weibo.com/1346124447/CeJ8ShmFD?t ... 9846766542 zz: ubuntu526 — 2015-04-24 11:42
[03:43] <HowIsItGoing> iMadper: 我纠结了半天，最后还是买了大法的电视
[03:43] <O0XX|Qiong> HowIsItGoing: 大法好
[03:43] <iMadper> HowIsItGoing: 这两天到处都是电视特价啊
[03:44] <iMadper> HowIsItGoing: http://www.smzdm.com/p/668225 比如这个, 虽然只有46, 不过放在卧室还是挺好的
[03:44] <^k^> iMadper: ⇪ 521 => for http://www.smzdm.com/p/668225 -- unhandled response
[03:45] <iMadper> HowIsItGoing: http://item.yixun.com/item-1854364.html?YTAG=0.1820100001300000 这个, 下单4899
[03:45] <^k^> iMadper: ⇪ 【索尼（SONY）】KDL-50W800B索尼（SONY） KDL-50W800B 50英寸全高清3D LED液晶电视（黑色）【价格_报价_图片_行情】-易迅网
[03:46] <pity> BuMangHuo: root commit 不能 reset，只好 commit amend 了
[03:48] <gfxmode> iMadper: 擦，我前几天买乐视TV了，早知道买索尼的
[03:52] <iMadper> gfxmode: 七天无条件退货
[03:54] <O0XX|Qiong> iMadper: https://github.com/nvbn/thefuck
[03:54] <^k^> ⇪ ti: nvbn/thefuck · GitHub
[03:54] <O0XX|Qiong> iMadper: 这个很赞
[04:14] <^k^> 新 启动和引导 • 14.04升到14.10后重启无法进入图形桌面 http://forum.ubuntu.org.cn/viewtopic.php?t=469757 14.04升到14.10后重启，booting insecure mode到黑屏进不去，Ctrl+F1 进入tty模式，login进去后提示 Fail to start unit [email protected] : unknown unit:[email protected] Failed to start user service: Unknown unit: [email protected] sta
[04:14] <^k^> ─> rtx后附图如下，求助 zz: <a href="http://forum.ubuntu.org.cn/memberlist.php?mod
[04:29] <HowIsItGoing> iMadper: 我买了55w950b
[04:30] <iMadper> HowIsItGoing: 真有钱...
[04:43] <^k^> 新 Ubuntu GNOME • 请问安装ubuntu gnome一直卡在gnome logo图标哪里怎么办 http://forum.ubuntu.org.cn/viewtopic.php?t=469758 请问安装ubuntu gnome一直卡在gnome logo图标哪里怎么办 zz: cutecat — 2015-04-24 12:25
[05:04] <yunfan> iMadper: 现在android firefox都可以装应用了 要是整个firefox launcher for android就好了
[05:08] <xiningli> j
[05:08] <xiningli> hi
[05:08] <^k^> xiningli:点点点. 13:08
[05:09] <xiningli> does anyone know how to type chinese here?
[05:09] <xiningli> @^k^
[05:10] <xiningli> mmm
[05:11] <iMadper> ...
[05:14] <iMadper> QiongMangHuo: http://www.macrumors.com/2015/03/11/13-inch-macbook-air-ssd-2x-faster/
[05:14] <^k^> iMadper: ⇪ Teardown Reveals New 13-Inch MacBook Air SSD is Nearly Twice as Fast as SSD in New 11-Inch MacBook Air - Mac Rumors
[05:18] <iMadper> QiongMangHuo: http://item.taobao.com/item.htm?spm=a230r.1.14.103.pRuuXu&id=21310980337&ns=1&abbucket=2#detail
[05:18] <^k^> iMadper: ⇪ SuperTalent PCIE x8 RAID RWS0512M SSD 512G SLC 1.4Gs缓存512M-淘宝网 pp: 120938.00
[05:19] <cherrot> 都开始搞 PCIE SSD了啊
[05:20] <iMadper> cherrot: 没, 我只是看到apple官网说自己的笔记本是pcie的ssd, 想看看到底是啥.
[05:20] <iMadper> cherrot: 发现只是minipci-e
[05:22] <iMadper> cherrot: 你现在笔记本多大?
[05:22] <iMadper> cherrot: 15的?
[05:23] <cherrot> iMadper, en 15
[05:23] <iMadper> cherrot: 多重?
[05:23] <iMadper> cherrot: 我现在觉得14有点儿不够大啊... cc QiongMangHuo
[05:24] <QiongMangHuo> iMadper: 够了, 再大即使是ultrabook也不方便
[05:24] <iMadper> QiongMangHuo: 现在ultrabook都是13的....
[05:24] <iMadper> QiongMangHuo: 怎么破...
[05:24] <QiongMangHuo> iMadper: x1c
[05:24] <iMadper> QiongMangHuo: 贵啊
[05:25] <iMadper> QiongMangHuo: 不过看上去没人会测我这台了... 开森.
[05:25] <cherrot> iMadper, 15挺合适的我觉得
[05:25] <QiongMangHuo> iMadper: 我最近一堆N+1...
[05:25] <cherrot> iMadper, i7四核也给力
[05:25] <iMadper> QiongMangHuo: 你去用svt去.
[05:25] <QiongMangHuo> iMadper: 说不好就到你那个了
[05:25] <iMadper> QiongMangHuo: 有svt啊
[05:26] <QiongMangHuo> eexpss: 小e, 你来啦
[05:26] <iMadper> cherrot: Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-5###U CPU @ 2.20GHz 是个毛毛cpu? cc QiongMangHuo
[05:26] <iMadper> eexpss: 小e, 你来啦
[05:26] <QiongMangHuo> iMadper: 不懂
[05:26] <cherrot> iMadper, 不懂
[05:27] <eexpss> QiongMangHuo: 为啥蛤蟆要你用telegram，你一直拒绝呢。你两闹矛盾了？
[05:27] <QiongMangHuo> eexpss: 我懒得多一个IM啊
[05:28] <eexpss> 你还有啥IM
[05:28] <cherrot> telegram 好啊
[05:28] <cherrot> cherrot 加我啊
[05:28] <QiongMangHuo> eexpss: 微信啊
[05:29] <eexpss> 微信是流氓。
[05:30] <cherrot> eexpss, tegegram的群聊无法加密吧？
[05:31] <eexpss> 加密还是有，常规的。不如私聊的那种。
[05:31] <cherrot> soga
[05:31] <HowIsItGoing> QiongMangHuo: 壕
[05:31] <QiongMangHuo> HowIsItGoing: 壕
[05:31] <QiongMangHuo> eexpss: 你为啥不用微信?
[05:31] <eexpss> 基蛙。。
[05:31] * QiongMangHuo 总得有个大多数人用的IM来交流啊...
[05:32] <eexpss> 微信偶尔开。整天都是发广告和炫富啊。
[05:33] <QiongMangHuo> eexpss: 微信的好处就是正常人都会一直开着可以替代短信
[05:33] <QiongMangHuo> eexpss: 你偶尔开, 异端
[05:33] <cherrot> 异端
[05:33] <eexpss> 一个web都不让人开心的用。比不过 telegram啊。
[05:34] <gfxmode> 微信用着会上瘾，一天总忍不住看好几次微信
[05:34] <QiongMangHuo> eexpss: IM谁好谁坏没用啊, 用的人多, 找得到人才是王道.....
[05:34] <QiongMangHuo> eexpss: QQ是太乱, 又不一定找得到人. 微信蛮好的
[05:34] <eexpss> 恩。我们都是建ingress群用的。
[05:35] <QiongMangHuo> eexpss: 最近很忙? 都不见你人
[05:35] <eexpss> 秘密会议。
[05:35] <eexpss> 我最近才闲呢。
[05:35] <QiongMangHuo> eexpss: 那咋不来吹水
[05:35] <QiongMangHuo> eexpss: 那咋不来北京请我吃饭
[05:36] <iMadper> eexpss: 那咋不来吹水
[05:36] <iMadper> eexpss: 那咋不来北京请我吃饭
[05:36] <eexpss> 呵呵。就来
[05:37] <eexpss> 我要吃回来的。
[05:37] * QiongMangHuo 夭寿啦
[05:37] * iMadper 要死啦
[05:37] <eexpss> iMadper: momo
[05:37] <iMadper> eexpss: momo
[05:38] * cherrot 夭寿啦
[05:38] <cherrot> eexpss, 果然ingress群都用telegram了么 哈哈
[05:39] <eexpss> 本地是这样的。
[05:39] <iMadper> QiongMangHuo: clion正式了已经..
[05:39] <HowIsItGoing> eexpss: 异端
[05:40] <yunfan> fuck you all
[05:41] <yunfan> QiongMangHuo: 原来去岛国自由行很便宜 我有个前同事去了5天 6k
[05:41] <eexpss> 基蛙，你不如蛤蟆活跃
[05:45] <eexpss> HowIsItGoing: 想起一个事情，你的openwrt上面安装过ssh没。
[05:45] * O0XX 哈?
[05:45] <eexpss> 摸蛤蟆
[05:46] <HowIsItGoing> eexpss: 啥意思？
[05:46] <HowIsItGoing> eexpss: 必须有ssh啊
[05:46] <HowIsItGoing> eexpss: 忙着呢，活跃又不能当饭吃
[05:46] <eexpss> 你别是dropbear那货吧。不是真的ssh哦
[05:46] <HowIsItGoing> eexpss: 要那么牛逼的ssh做甚？
[05:46] <eexpss> ssh -D 做这个啊
[05:47] <eexpss> 多简单的一句，省得安装复杂的东西
[05:54] <iMadper> HowIsItGoing: http://www.smzdm.com/p/668301 你买的多少钱?
[05:54] <^k^> iMadper: ⇪ 521 => for http://www.smzdm.com/p/668301 -- unhandled response
[05:54] <HowIsItGoing> iMadper: 就这个
[05:55] <iMadper> HowIsItGoing: 昂, 赞
[05:55] <eexpss> HowIsItGoing: .http://paste.ubuntu.org.cn/2562256.
[05:55] <QiongMangHuo> HowIsItGoing: 壕
[05:56] <HowIsItGoing> eexpss: 你在owrt上开ssh -D？这是啥想法？
[05:56] <eexpss> 做隧道出去。
[05:56] <HowIsItGoing> iMadper: 最近在围观水木ditigalhome版
[05:56] <eexpss> 动态sock5
[05:57] <iMadper> HowIsItGoing: ... 你要烧了啊
[05:57] <cherrot> eexpss, 可是隧道好慢啊
[05:57] <eexpss> 不慢啊。
[05:57] <HowIsItGoing> opkg find "*ssh*"
[05:57] <HowIsItGoing> openssh-client - 6.6p1-1 - OpenSSH client.
[05:57] <HowIsItGoing> eexpss: ^
[05:58] <eexpss> 恩。还有一个keygen
[05:58] <HowIsItGoing> im
[05:58] <HowIsItGoing> iMadper: 装修嘛，上去取取经
[05:59] <eexpss> cao 才发现贴图网站，死掉了7,8个。
[05:59] <iMadper> HowIsItGoing: 壕买鹦鹉螺了吗?
[05:59] <ooOO_OOoo> iMadper: 壕早.
[05:59] <iMadper> ooOO_OOoo: 土豪
[06:00] <HowIsItGoing> iMadper: 那是咩？
[06:00] <iMadper> HowIsItGoing: 一个音响
[06:01] <HowIsItGoing> iMadper: 木有，买对2.1的漫步者咋样？
[06:01] <O0XX> HowIsItGoing: 你都看开万数了?
[06:01] <iMadper> HowIsItGoing: 不好吧
[06:01] <iMadper> HowIsItGoing: 鹦鹉螺应该是现在装修的标配吧
[06:02] <O0XX> HowIsItGoing: 壕
[06:02] <HowIsItGoing> O0XX: 早就围观了啊，他们搞家庭网络太弱逼了
[06:02] <HowIsItGoing> iMadper: 额，去搜下
[06:02] <iMadper> HowIsItGoing: http://it.hinews.cn/page.php?xuh=90429
[06:02] <O0XX> HowIsItGoing: 你不准备搞 HTPC?
[06:02] <^k^> iMadper: ⇪ 比宝马车贵 B&W英国顶级鹦鹉螺音箱48万元一对-海口鹦鹉螺音箱-南海网IT
[06:02] <iMadper> HowIsItGoing: 不用啊, 我帮你搜好
[06:02] <O0XX> HowIsItGoing: 买买买
[06:03] <HowIsItGoing> O0XX: 还在想屋子怎么放ap，一个屋放一个就好了撒。
[06:03] <HowIsItGoing> iMadper: ……
[06:03] <O0XX> HowIsItGoing: 电力猫啊
[06:03] <O0XX> HowIsItGoing: 省得布线
[06:03] <iMadper> HowIsItGoing: 电力猫啊 +1
[06:03] <HowIsItGoing> O0XX: htpc？ 不如安卓盒子加nas吧？
[06:03] <O0XX> HowIsItGoing: 安卓盒子没有HTPC灵活
[06:03] <O0XX> HowIsItGoing: 可折腾性高
[06:03] <iMadper> HowIsItGoing: 听歌的话, 买个3寸全频的小箱子就够了, 1k以下
[06:03] <HowIsItGoing> O0XX: iMadper 电力猫也渣，最高速度才250M，我准备搞双线超六类线呢。
[06:04] <O0XX> HowIsItGoing: 有千兆的电力猫
[06:04] <HowIsItGoing> O0XX: 我有N54L了撒，弄个安卓盒子接电视上放片儿就行了
[06:04] <HowIsItGoing> O0XX: 速度也上不去
[06:04] <iMadper> HowIsItGoing: 电力猫500M的不要太多好伐
[06:04] <pity> http://ctext.org/zh 好站
[06:05] <^k^> ⇪ ti: 中國哲學書電子化計劃
[06:05] * O0XX 哲♂学
[06:05] <HowIsItGoing> i
[06:05] <O0XX> HowIsItGoing: 真的, 买华为的
[06:05] <O0XX> HowIsItGoing: 性能不错
[06:05] <HowIsItGoing> iMadper: 我想弄嵌入式的ap呢，不过可以看看电力猫
[06:06] <HowIsItGoing> O0XX: iMadper 不过装修公司电路改造是包死的价，不铺白不铺啊
[06:06] <O0XX> HowIsItGoing: 线材另收费的...
[06:06] <O0XX> HowIsItGoing: 他们又不傻
[06:06] <BuMangHuo> test
[06:06] <^k^> BuMangHuo:点点点. 14:06
[06:06] <HowIsItGoing> O0XX: 没有，就那些钱
[06:06] <HowIsItGoing> O0XX: 不过分就行
[06:06] <O0XX> HowIsItGoing: 那必须铺
[06:07] <O0XX> HowIsItGoing: 铺个九曲十八弯
[06:07] <BuMangHuo> HowIsItGoing: 大法好！
[06:07] <iMadper> HowIsItGoing: +1
[06:07] * O0XX http://c.hiphotos.baidu.com/baike/c0%3Dbaike92%2C5%2C5%2C92%2C30/sign=73154e3c5066d0166a14967af642bf62/d6ca7bcb0a46f21ff4c793a2f4246b600d33ae54.jpg
[06:10] <O0XX> HowIsItGoing: 建议直接7类线
[06:10] <HowIsItGoing> O0XX: 只有超五类，换线得自己买
[06:11] <O0XX> HowIsItGoing: 还有建议在沙发后面到电视接一个hdmi
[06:11] <O0XX> HowIsItGoing: 这个太有用了
[06:11] <HowIsItGoing> O0XX: 我准备接AP的线用超五类，接PC/NAS的用六类线
[06:11] * QiongMangHuo 看你们讨论装修好羡慕
[06:11] <HowIsItGoing> O0XX: 为毛？ 这有啥用？
[06:11] <O0XX> HowIsItGoing: 万数上 各种推荐
[06:11] <O0XX> HowIsItGoing: 基本就是电脑连电视吧
[06:12] <HowIsItGoing> O0XX: 我没有本子存片儿的习惯，电影全放nas然后DLNA
[06:12] <HowIsItGoing> O0XX: 手机的片儿直接airplay
[06:14] * O0XX 哎, 各种羡慕...
[06:14] <HowIsItGoing> O0XX: 万数上有些想法相当二
[06:15] <O0XX> HowIsItGoing: 求举例
[06:16] <HowIsItGoing> O0XX: 有个人在板上球不用重启的路由器，说换了十几个，每个都是跑几天就上不去网了。
[06:16] <HowIsItGoing> O0XX: 这厮就想不到买个定时电源，每天半夜自动重启一次？
[06:16] * QiongMangHuo 还是整个牛X的路由比较好
[06:17] <HowIsItGoing> QiongMangHuo: 丫买了1k多的路由都说不好用
[06:17] <QiongMangHuo> HowIsItGoing: 0_0
[06:18] <HowIsItGoing> QiongMangHuo: 一个定时电源才几十块……
[06:18] <eexpss> 99块的路由+u盘 -> DLNA 就是了。折腾啥。
[06:19] <HowIsItGoing> O0XX: taobao上有卖wifi开关/GPRS模块的，弄些这玩意完全可以攒个山寨版智能家庭了。
[06:20] * HowIsItGoing 想给家里布一些9v
[06:20] * HowIsItGoing 想给家里布一些9v电源接头
[06:20] <QiongMangHuo> HowIsItGoing: 用来做什么?
[06:20] <HowIsItGoing> QiongMangHuo: 接弱电设备啊
[06:21] <HowIsItGoing> 路由，交换机，各种探测器
[06:23] <gfxmode> 感觉各位不但在代码界是巨擘，在家装界也是大师级人物呀
[06:24] <BuMangHuo> gfxmode: 瞎说
[06:24] <BuMangHuo> gfxmode: 有人就不是， 比如 happyaron , 就是妹子壕
[06:25] <gfxmode> 约了乐视TV的售后，周末安装调试电视机
[06:26] <^k^> 新 启动和引导 • systemd很拽吗？ http://forum.ubuntu.org.cn/viewtopic.php?t=469759 听说ubuntu15.04采用什么systemd，有不少人为之兴奋不已。这systemd究竟是啥东西？它到底拽在哪里？直接从老版本的14.10升级，能不能享受到systemd？ zz: 百草谷居士 — 2015-04-24 14:20
[06:28] <O0XX> QiongMangHuo: iMadper 话说北京地铁如果有一日票, 多少钱你们买?
[06:29] <QiongMangHuo> O0XX: 十块?
[06:29] <jusss> "听说ubuntu15.04采用什么systemd，有不少人为之兴奋不已。"
[06:29] * QiongMangHuo 买过最贵的一日通票, boston的12$
[06:33] <QiongMangHuo> O0XX: 你要做地铁的生意了?
[06:34] <O0XX> QiongMangHuo: 恩, 准备去北京站当地铁黄牛去
[06:34] <iMadper> O0XX: 不买. 我有月票.
[06:34] <iMadper> O0XX: 去西客站, 西客站人多
[06:34] <O0XX> iMadper: 西客站在楼下, 北京站要出站
[06:34] <O0XX> iMadper: 北京站更好
[06:36] <jusss> iMadper: 月票怎么买?
[06:38] <gfxmode> 香港地铁全日通只要50港币
[06:38] <BuMangHuo> onlylove 呢
[06:42] <O0XX> QiongMangHuo: boston的日票真贵
[06:42] <O0XX> QiongMangHuo: 你享受了?
[06:43] <QiongMangHuo> O0XX: 就做过一个来回, 下大雪, 没法再出门.............
[06:56] <^k^> 新 新闻和通知 • 一铭操作系统版块搞活动啦，有兴趣的朋友可以去看看！ http://forum.ubuntu.org.cn/viewtopic.php?t=469760 一铭操作系统版块搞活动啦，有兴趣的朋友可以去看看！ http://www.linuxdiyf.com/bbs/forum-82-1.html zz: zhou514815147 — 2015-04-24 14:47
[06:59] * QiongMangHuo 2015/4/23 0:00:00此包裹已抵达国内，等待清关
[06:59] <QiongMangHuo> O0XX: 尼码, 出门左转!
[06:59] <O0XX> QiongMangHuo: 啥?
[06:59] <QiongMangHuo> O0XX: 14:42 < O0XX> QiongMangHuo: boston的日票真贵 iotouch
[06:59] <QiongMangHuo> 14:42 < O0XX> QiongMangHuo: 你享受了?
[06:59] <QiongMangHuo> O0XX: 尼码, 出门左转!
[06:59] <O0XX> QiongMangHuo: 你反射弧真长
[07:00] <QiongMangHuo> O0XX: 我特么纯洁!
[07:00] <O0XX> QiongMangHuo: 纯洁毛
[07:00] <O0XX> QiongMangHuo: 纯洁给你一被子你也想不出来
[07:00] <QiongMangHuo> ......
[07:02] <O0XX> iMadper: http://baike.baidu.com/view/33912.htm
[07:02] <^k^> O0XX: ⇪ 盗窃、侮辱尸体罪_百度百科
[07:02] <O0XX> iMadper: 我靠, 居然还有这个罪
[07:02] <iMadper> O0XX: 自首?
[07:02] <ooOO_OOoo> O0XX: 擦, 一天天都关注的什么 ?!
[07:04] <O0XX> ooOO_OOoo: 蚯蚓你来啦
[07:04] <ooOO_OOoo> O0XX: 拜00XX 壕 .
[07:05] <gfxmode> O0XX: 这个帖子不错，http://bbs.tianya.cn/post-funinfo-6281177-1.shtml
[07:05] <^k^> gfxmode: ⇪ 天网恢恢，疏而不漏---818今日说法里那些奇案。_娱乐八卦_天涯论坛
[07:05] <yunfan> 我觉得可以开个现代巫师的小组
[07:06] <gfxmode> 里面有个案子，A雇B杀C，结果C听说A要杀自己，C把A杀了
[07:12] <yunfan> gfxmode: 可以从轻判 只要有来自 B的证据
[07:12] <yunfan> 而且话说最近司法改革要学美帝 搞陪审团了
[07:12] <yunfan> 估计搞起来的话 这种例子在许多地方会呗陪审团认为无罪吧
[07:15] <BuMangHuo> yunfan: 乃会 html 不，帮忙写个最简单的右下角类似运营商推广告的那种弹窗呗
[07:21] <yunfan> BuMangHuo: 不会 谢谢
[07:23] <QiongMangHuo> O0XX: iMadper http://www.cnbeta.com/articles/388359.htm
[07:23] <^k^> ⇪ ti: 优麒麟（Ubuntu Kylin）15.04 正式版发布_Ubuntu_cnBeta.COM
[07:24] <QiongMangHuo> 好像配色没有那么恶心了
[07:24] <QiongMangHuo> FJKong: happyaron HowIsItGoing ^
[07:24] <iMadper> QiongMangHuo: 其实挺好的.
[07:25] <BuMangHuo> yunfan: 谢谢是啥意思
[07:25] <yunfan> BuMangHuo: 谢谢你看得起我啊
[07:26] <O0XX> QiongMangHuo: 恩, 不错
[07:26] <BuMangHuo> yunfan: 哦
[07:27] <gfxmode> yunfan: 不一定，这个是这个帖子的“案例3”
[07:28] <^k^> 新 内核及嵌入式开发 • 天津天地伟业数码科技有限公司招聘嵌入式软件工程师 http://forum.ubuntu.org.cn/viewtopic.php?t=469761 招聘职位：嵌入式软件工程 工作地点：天津 职位要求： 1、熟悉嵌入式Linux操作系统及应用； 2、了解多进程多线程技术、网络Socket编程技术、硬盘存储技术、音视频流
[07:28] <gfxmode> 可以去看下详细情况，看完后觉得ABC三种人都是坏人
[07:29] <yunfan> gfxmode: 坏人也不是都该杀嘛
[07:32] <iMadper> O0XX: http://www.zhihu.com/question/20897449#answer-13696573
[07:33] <^k^> iMadper: ⇪ 淘宝的褚霸的技术水平如何？ - 「未归类」话题 - 知乎
[07:33] <iMadper> O0XX: 又掐
[07:36] <QiongMangHuo> O0XX: 你洗刷我........
[07:36] <O0XX> QiongMangHuo: 啥?
[07:37] <QiongMangHuo> O0XX: 这是一句四川话
[07:40] <Destine> QiongMangHuo, 哪儿学的？
[07:41] <QiongMangHuo> Destine: 我在四川待过两年啊....
[07:41] <Destine> QiongMangHuo, 哦。
[07:42] <Destine> QiongMangHuo, 好吧。
[07:42] <Destine> QiongMangHuo, 洗刷你啥子？
[07:42] <QiongMangHuo> Destine: 上周爬山, 说句好冷诺, 把个重庆妹子激动的不行
[07:42] <QiongMangHuo> Destine: 他跟vendor介绍说我是技术专家 =,=
[07:43] <Destine> QiongMangHuo, 没有洗刷你三，我觉得说得对三。
[07:43] <QiongMangHuo> Destine: 对三, 要不起
[07:43] <Destine> QiongMangHuo, 瑟嘛。
[07:44] <QiongMangHuo> =,=
[07:52] <QiongMangHuo> iMadper: O0XX 现在限制了, 只能Amazon
[07:52] <O0XX> QiongMangHuo: 对对对
[07:52] <QiongMangHuo> O0XX: momo
[07:52] <iMadper> QiongMangHuo: 对对对
[07:55] * O0XX 我为什么会看到这么奇怪的东西... http://ww2.sinaimg.cn/bmiddle/7bf06420gw1ergo3nzywpj20bh0g3whf.jpg
[07:55] <QiongMangHuo> bookmarked
[07:55] <HowIsItGoing> QiongMangHuo: O0XX iMadper 我老板申请申根签被拒了2次啊，欧洲这么难申请么？
[07:56] <QiongMangHuo> HowIsItGoing: 他刚告诉我他拿到了马耳他的签证啊
[07:56] <iMadper> HowIsItGoing: 不知道诶.
[07:56] <HowIsItGoing> O0XX: 乃之前去不达陪思申请的哪里签？
[07:56] <QiongMangHuo> HowIsItGoing: 我一次成功, 不晓得
[07:56] <O0XX> HowIsItGoing: 布达佩斯
[07:56] <HowIsItGoing> QiongMangHuo: 九曲十八弯，都去硬闯大使馆了
[07:56] <QiongMangHuo> HowIsItGoing: 你把马耳他叫东欧? 你个坏人!!!
[07:56] <HowIsItGoing> QiongMangHuo: 你妹，那是经理sprint
[07:57] <QiongMangHuo> HowIsItGoing: 嗷
[07:57] <QiongMangHuo> HowIsItGoing: 那你去哪
[07:57] <HowIsItGoing> QiongMangHuo: 东欧
[07:57] * QiongMangHuo 求欧洲五年多次, 日本五年多次, 澳洲五年多次
[07:57] <HowIsItGoing> QiongMangHuo: 以前被苏联占领过
[07:57] <QiongMangHuo> HowIsItGoing: 芬兰你叫他东欧???
[07:57] <QiongMangHuo> HowIsItGoing: 爱沙尼亚? 保加利亚? 立陶宛?
[07:57] <HowIsItGoing> O0XX: 好吧，布达佩斯，你直接申请的匈牙利签？
[07:58] <QiongMangHuo> HowIsItGoing: 东欧出美女啊, 带一打儿回来
[07:58] <HowIsItGoing> QiongMangHuo: 不包邮，谢谢
[07:58] <O0XX> HowIsItGoing: 对, 而且还是从维也纳入的申根国, 也没任何问题
[07:58] <QiongMangHuo> HowIsItGoing: 邮费我出
[07:58] <HowIsItGoing> O0XX: 胸签好申嘛？几天下签？
[07:58] <O0XX> HowIsItGoing: 好签
[07:58] <O0XX> HowIsItGoing: 反正我没参与
[07:59] <O0XX> HowIsItGoing: 护照给代理, 拿回来就有签证了
[07:59] <HowIsItGoing> O0XX: 贵部门都找代理，我部门流行DIY
[07:59] * HowIsItGoing 好像没人找代理
[07:59] <O0XX> HowIsItGoing: DIY伤身体啊
[07:59] <HowIsItGoing> O0XX: 不用准备那么多东西啊，代理要一堆乱七八糟的，也不一定能用上
[08:00] <HowIsItGoing> QiongMangHuo: 不代购，谢谢
[08:00] <O0XX> HowIsItGoing: 帮我带精油
[08:01] <HowIsItGoing> O0XX: 那是神马玩意
[08:01] <O0XX> HowIsItGoing: 找代理了准备就准备了..又不用你自己操心
[08:01] <O0XX> HowIsItGoing: DIY真的伤身体
[08:01] * HowIsItGoing 周末可能去哈尔滨耍， O0XX 给你带套套娃算了
[08:01] <O0XX> HowIsItGoing: 不要, 好的太贵, 普通的太渣
[08:01] <iMadper> 带啥? 带 套套娃?
[08:01] <O0XX> HowIsItGoing: 我家里那个到最后一个就是个小豆子
[08:01] <O0XX> HowIsItGoing: 连脸都没画
[08:02] <HowIsItGoing> O0XX: 材料都折腾完了，剩下代理给递签？ 这有啥折腾的，出门就是使馆区。
[08:02] <HowIsItGoing> O0XX: 好像现在都这样
[08:02] <O0XX> HowIsItGoing: 没, 我以前见过好的..最后面那个都画的特别精细, 当然
[08:02] <O0XX> 特别贵
[08:03] <HowIsItGoing> O0XX: 只买最里头那个行不？ 外头拿普通的套上
[08:03] <O0XX> HowIsItGoing: 你觉得行不?
[08:03] <O0XX> HowIsItGoing: 带瓶伏特加回来
[08:03] <HowIsItGoing> O0XX: 卧槽，你飞申根飞维也纳？ 帝都直飞嘛？ 高大上
[08:03] <O0XX> HowIsItGoing: 住使馆区的壕!
[08:04] <O0XX> HowIsItGoing: 直飞毛, 先飞土耳其
[08:04] <HowIsItGoing> O0XX: 住使馆区的是你们你们你们！
[08:04] <HowIsItGoing> O0XX: 呦，土航嘛？还是土壕航？
[08:04] <O0XX> HowIsItGoing: 土
[08:04] <HowIsItGoing> O0XX: 也不错，据说空乘很赞
[08:04] <O0XX> HowIsItGoing: 那是, 全清真食品, 方便的不行不行的
[08:05] <HowIsItGoing> O0XX: 酱牛肉来一坛，抱着吃到降落？
[08:05] <O0XX> HowIsItGoing: 那估计得是头等舱了吧...经济舱的穷鬼表示根本吃不饱
[08:18] <^k^> 逛了一下论坛,暂时无新贴.
[08:20] <QiongMangHuo> iMadper: O0XX 好快.....
[08:20] <O0XX> QiongMangHuo: 快不见得是好事情
[08:23] <O0XX> QiongMangHuo: 你要装arch?
[08:23] <QiongMangHuo> O0XX: 不啊
[08:24] <QiongMangHuo> O0XX: ubuntu使用什么自动挂载的? udisk2?
[08:24] <O0XX> 对对对
[08:29] <^k^> 新 线下活动专版 • Ubuntu开发者创新大赛 奖项增设啦！ http://forum.ubuntu.org.cn/viewtopic.php?t=469763 Ubuntu开发者创新大赛由Canonical与中国移动联合举办，面向开发者公开征集优秀适配Ubuntu操作系统的Scope、应用等作品，旨在联袂打造国内Ubuntu生态新系统、助力TD 产业蓬勃发展。大赛自2014年底
[08:29] <^k^> ─> 启动以来，已吸引众多开发者参与，为了感谢各位参赛选手对本次赛事的支持，主办方决 …
[08:34] <yunfan> 移动一天到晚搞这个开发大赛 却连手机都不提供 想自己买都不行 真是耍猴
[08:36] <QiongMangHuo> yunfan: 负责这个事儿的人刚才还在, 下回他上来我让你问他
[08:40] <QiongMangHuo> huntxu: 欧冠看好谁?
[08:42] <yunfan> QiongMangHuo: 我去看了那页面的奖项 前三名才给一个ubuntu phone 这太坑人了
[08:42] <QiongMangHuo> yunfan: 面向校园的啊
[08:42] <yunfan> QiongMangHuo: 应该搞个半价卖给开发者开发手机的活动
[08:42] <wangli> iMadper, zao
[08:42] <yunfan> QiongMangHuo: 也有社会组哦
[08:42] <iMadper> wangli: 早. 拜rh最快升级到qe的王老板
[08:42] <wangli> iMadper, ...
[08:42] <yunfan> QiongMangHuo: 不过你看移动对这个感兴趣 说明我对firefox os的判断是正确的
[08:43] <yunfan> 运营商就喜欢能控制你机器上的应用
[08:45] <O0XX> yunfan: 对的老司机, 你最厉害了...
[08:46] <yunfan> O0XX: 来舔
[08:47] <huntxu> QiongMangHuo: 牌面應該是皇馬的，不過有衛冕魔咒
[08:48] <QiongMangHuo> yunfan: 淘宝都没的卖soylent
[08:48] <huntxu> QiongMangHuo: 其它三隊其實差不多
[08:48] <QiongMangHuo> huntxu: 尤文很欣慰
[08:49] <huntxu> QiongMangHuo: 尤文真心不差，主要是國內沒啥壓力
[08:51] <huntxu> QiongMangHuo: 人員又穩定，只要不傷病，完全有可能爭冠
[08:51] <QiongMangHuo> huntxu: 所以拜仁够呛
[08:52] <huntxu> QiongMangHuo: 神醫都走了，還能怎樣。。。
[08:52] <QiongMangHuo> huntxu: 神医还在接诊拜仁哦
[08:52] <huntxu> QiongMangHuo: 瓜禿真是花樣作死。。。你看教授從來都不敢對隊醫鼓掌
[08:53] <huntxu> QiongMangHuo: 迪亞比都快考到護士牌照了
[08:53] <QiongMangHuo> huntxu: 呃...
[08:55] <yunfan> QiongMangHuo: soylent官方提供配方 你买齐材料 最配就行 也可以去他官方买 走国际快递运回来
[08:56] <huntxu> QiongMangHuo: 其實以尤文的中後場，其它三隊誰打都沒有把握必勝，除非誰又突然超神一下。。。
[09:01] <BuMangHuo> iMadper: 刚才我发的那个美亚的物流信息貌似掉线丢了，现在直邮好快来着
[09:01] <BuMangHuo> 买买买
[09:02] <yunfan> iotouch: 你也对soylent有兴趣 ？
[09:03] <^k^> 新 服务器基础应用 • ubuntu14.04怎样在无显示器情况下启动gnome http://forum.ubuntu.org.cn/viewtopic.php?t=469764 我用的一个arm构架的小型计算机安装了ubuntu14.04，现在想开机启动运行gnome-terminal命令，再接上显示器的情况下可以正常运行，但是拔下显示器后我用ssh登陆查看没有启动gnome桌面。我想
[09:03] <iMadper> bu
[09:03] <iMadper> BuMangHuo: 啥意思?
[09:04] <iMadper> BuMangHuo: 我刚掉线了.
[09:04] <iMadper> BuMangHuo: 直邮挺快的, 两到三周
[09:04] <iotouch> yunfan hi
[09:04] <iotouch> what's silent
[09:04] <iotouch> soylent
[09:05] <yunfan> QiongMangHuo: 有机会帮我带一个月的量回来试试
[09:06] <yunfan> iotouch: use google
[09:08] <^k^> 逛了一下论坛,暂时无新贴.
[09:09] <iotouch> yunfan google了，好厉害的东西
[09:09] <iotouch> 你怎么知道这种新玩意的
[09:09] <yunfan> iotouch: cause i am using google's other products like google reader
[09:10] <BuMangHuo> iMadper: 我上次买的一个居然不到10天
[09:18] <^k^> 新 Ubuntu错误报告 • 请大侠帮忙看看系统报错 http://forum.ubuntu.org.cn/viewtopic.php?t=469765 很明显的感觉是某次安装程序以后出现系统提示错误，是和我的搜狗输入法任务栏上的面板冲突了，结果就是看不到输入法面板，因为当时是用命令行从软件库里安装了很多软件，所以不知道到底是哪个
[09:18] <^k^> ─> 程序冲突，截图系统错误提示如下，请大侠帮忙看看，谢谢： 1.png 2.png 3.png 再谢！ zz: c …
[09:36] <^k^> 新 Ubuntu中文衍生版 • ubuntu 15.04 amd64 私人打包版 http://forum.ubuntu.org.cn/viewtopic.php?t=469766 没啥说的，新版基本无任何尿点和吐点。上一张桌面图： Ubuntu 64 位-2015-04-24-17-33-27.png 下载地址(百度网盘)： http://pan.baidu.com/s/1hOvBw zz: zrqlx126 — 2015-04-24 17:35
[09:38] <QiongMangHuo> liuxg: ping
[09:38] <QiongMangHuo> liuxg: "16:34 < yunfan> 移动一天到晚搞这个开发大赛 却连手机都不提供 想自己买都不行 真是耍猴" 给 yunfan 解释一下这个问题?
[09:45] <yunfan> liuxg: 解释解释
[09:45] <yunfan> QiongMangHuo: 我说你也对soylent 有兴趣 ？
[09:46] <QiongMangHuo> yunfan: 有点
[09:47] <yunfan> QiongMangHuo: 你为何对这个有兴趣呢
[09:47] <yunfan> QiongMangHuo: 感觉你不是很在乎吃的嘛
[09:47] <QiongMangHuo> yunfan: 节食餐啊
[09:48] <BuMangHuo> cherrot: 你在微信传的图被压成渣了
[09:48] <QiongMangHuo> yunfan: 不用发愁怎么控制卡路里
[09:48] <yunfan> QiongMangHuo: 好吧 其实他这个的卡路里量应该我们吃不会太有节食效果 但你可以把一天的量减点吃
[09:49] <cherrot> BuMangHuo, 那是自然 微信的压缩算法太渣，图像尺寸大的时候画质就悲剧了
[09:54] * QiongMangHuo 又开始发愁晚上吃什么了...
[10:04] <^k^> 新 Ubuntu 15.10 • 开版第一贴：Hello World！ http://forum.ubuntu.org.cn/viewtopic.php?t=469767 开版第一贴：Hello World！ zz: jinyu121 — 2015-04-24 18:03
[10:06] <O0XX> eexpss: 婶婶
[10:06] <eexpss> ?
[10:06] <O0XX> eexpss: 手机上怎么玩ｉｎｇｒｅｓｓ， 我用shadowsocks连不上
[10:07] <eexpss> ss可以啊。你干脆开全局。
[10:07] <eexpss> 一次都连不上？
[10:07] <QiongMangHuo> O0XX: 怀疑你得把之前的后台清了?
[10:08] <O0XX> eexpss: 连不上啊
[10:08] <eexpss> 找蛋蛋要ss。换一个账号试试嘛。
[10:09] <eexpss> 看你是卡在哪个界面了。
[10:09] <QiongMangHuo> eexpss: 他进去就说连不上
[10:09] <O0XX> eexpss: 就一开始, 不能建立安全连接
[10:09] <O0XX> QiongMangHuo: 你ss给我试试
[10:09] <eexpss> 那换ss
[10:09] <^k^> 新 虚拟机和虚拟化 • Ubuntu 15.04 安装VMWorkstation出错 http://forum.ubuntu.org.cn/viewtopic.php?t=469768 Ubuntu 15.04 安装VMWorkstation出错。 能正常安装，但是第一次使用需要安装内核扩展和VM虚拟网卡，开始守护进程。内核扩展安装成功，某个守护进程启动成功，其他都失败。（也就是第一个和第三个
[10:09] <^k^> ─> 成功，二和四失败）。 忘记截图了……遇到同样的问题的童鞋求解决办法…… zz: jinyu121 …
[10:11] <eexpss> 如果你整天和别人说要炸市政府啊啥的，你最好用telegram聊天。 要是用微信，估计会被抓。 lol O0XX
[10:33] <^k^> 新 系统安装和升级 • 我在做一个USB cam,作为一个device设备连接PC，在我的系统上有诶有办法可以检测到USB与PC的插拔？ http://forum.ubuntu.org.cn/viewtopic.php?t=469769 如题； 我在做一个USB cam, 我要将USB作为一个device设备连接PC，在我的系统上有没有办法可以检测到USB与PC的插拔？ 我想通过判断U
[10:33] <^k^> ─> SB与PC之间的连接状态，来执行一段脚本 zz: miles010 — 2015-04-24 18:33
[10:59] <sennn> ......
[10:59] <^k^> 新 初学者园地 - 15.04 • 不能升级 http://forum.ubuntu.org.cn/viewtopic.php?t=469770 今天下了ubutnu15.04的iso,制作了u盘启动. 可是,安装的时候升级安装是灰色的,点不了 我的电脑的ubuntu是14.10的 zz: 冰谛-王者法则 — 2015-04-24 18:58
[11:51] <^k^> 新 校园网拨号 • dr.com在ubuntu无法登陆，求解决方法 http://forum.ubuntu.org.cn/viewtopic.php?t=469771 运行学校的dr.com,提示说：你的pc设置了静态ip，请改为动态获取方式（DHCP），然后重新登陆，可是我在网络设置那里的ipv4设置那里方法选了自动（DHCP）还是没有用，一样有提示，百度看了几个解
[11:51] <^k^> ─> 决方法都还是不行，谁可以帮忙解决一下？不胜感激！！！！ zz: 清风揽月 — 2015-04-24 19 …
[11:54] <cxy> 求翻墙解决方案，实在百度不出来了，各种方法都试了，求亲人们解脱，谷歌不能用啊
[11:54] <gebjgd> cxy, 請用bing
[11:55] <sennn> cxy,你用windows 系统吗?
[11:55] <cxy> sennn: ubuntu
[11:56] <cxy> gebjgd: bing可以登陆gmail吗
[11:56] <gebjgd> cxy, 用百度搜索翻牆 一會兒你就去喝茶了
[11:56] <cxy> gebjgd: ……，我只是登陆GMAIL
[11:56] <gebjgd> cxy, bing是搜索引擎
[11:56] <sennn> cxy, 教你一招 切换到windows
[11:56] <gebjgd> sennn, 翻牆還和系統有關？
[11:56] <sennn> 当然
[11:57] <cxy> sennn: 我只用ubuntu，没有用window
[11:57] <gebjgd> sennn, 大嬸！
[11:57] <sennn> 目前,只能用tor
[11:57] <sennn> 在linux下
[11:57] <gebjgd> sennn, 直接ss就是了
[11:57] <cxy> sennn: 你能给我讲下tor的大概使用流程吗
[11:57] <gebjgd> sennn, 笨
[11:58] <sennn> gebjgd, 你才笨呢,很多人说tor 被封了,但我有办法上tor!!!!
[11:58] <cxy> sennn: 我一直做应用开发的，对于翻墙 tor网络的都没用过
[11:59] <sennn> 用 bing 搜索 tor mirror 关键词
[11:59] <sennn> 下载 tor bundle
[11:59] <sennn> 用mirror
[12:00] <cxy> sennn: 好的 我试试
[12:00] <sennn> 解压直接运行
[12:00] <sennn> 不用安装
[12:01] <void1> 自己花点钱，买个vps
[12:01] <cxy> sennn:没有找到tor bundle
[12:01] <void1> 每年花不了多少钱，上网舒服很多
[12:01] <void1> 而且还可以有其他各种作用
[12:01] <sennn> cxy,笨先进tor主页啊
[12:01] <cxy> void1: 好的 谢谢
[12:02] <cxy> sennn: 无法访问……
[12:02] <sennn> cxy,免费才是王道
[12:02] <cxy> sennn: tor主页根本就进不去
[12:02] <sennn> cxy, 都说了找mirror 镜像网站,笨死......
[12:02] <void1> 免费么体验肯定差
[12:02] <sennn> 不一定哦
[12:03] <void1> 学生党的话用用免费的，工作了一年不在乎科学上网的这点钱
[12:03] <sennn> 我有免费大法
[12:04] <cxy> 还是买个VPN去，太费劲了
[12:04] <sennn> cxy,笨死
[12:04] <cxy> sennn: 能给个链接不
[12:04] <sennn> vpn 都被封了,买了都不能用....
[12:05] <gebjgd> sennn, 懂！
[12:05] <gebjgd> sennn, 大嬸那
[12:05] * gebjgd 笑得我午飯都噴了
[12:06] <sennn> gebjgd, 你可以去死了
[12:06] <cxy> 你们都说的好有道理，我竟然无言以对
[12:06] <sennn> 没人拦你
[12:06] <gebjgd> @hansontangbc：黄继光、邱少云等英雄事迹又闹得沸沸扬扬，但很多人不知道他们都是四川人，父亲都被地主害死，更重要的都是光荣的志愿军15军战士。15军不仅涌现了两大战神，而且首创轻武器打飞机的绝招，据统计共击落美战机882架。出色政治工作归功于军政委谷景山将军，他的女儿几十年后还亲手击毙一英国特务。
[12:06] <void1> cxy: 是vps不是vpn
[12:07] <cxy> void1: ……
[12:07] <void1> cxy: 然后根据自己的网络情况选择安装vpn, ssh或者其他方式科学上网
[12:07] <gebjgd> @ld0905：天刚蒙蒙亮，小李揉着惺忪的睡眼从床上爬了起来，昨天搬砖留下来的肌肉的酸痛无法通过 4 个小时的睡眠得到缓解。他扭了个扭脖子，习惯性地打开了手机新闻 App。进入视野的是新闻兴奋的标题，习大大被巴基斯坦战机护航！激动的心情写在字里行间。小李数着标题后面的叹号，一天的搬砖更有力气了！
[12:07] <sennn> ssh 还是不错的
[12:07] <void1> vpn的话确实很多isp是封端口的
[12:09] <sennn> 免费的科学上网方式,目前linux 下只有 tor 与花钱的ssh了
[12:09] <cxy> 跟各位说件事，给我出谋划策下，我现在想辞职，可是又被老板给劝下了
[12:09] <sennn> 自己决定,没人帮的了你
[12:09] <cxy> 我从毕业就在这家小公司干了三年了，一直在一个工作流平台上做应用开发。就跟CMS系统二次开发一样
[12:10] <sennn> ......
[12:10] <cxy> 我不想这样了，天天增删改差 改源码
[12:10] <sennn> ......
[12:11] <void1> 第三方协议的还很多呢
[12:11] <void1> vpngate
[12:11] <void1> shadow socket
[12:11] <void1> bittorrent公司的浏览器
[12:11] <sennn> shadow socket 已被封
[12:11] <void1> 等等
[12:11] <cxy> shadow socket是不是跟洋葱一个道理
[12:11] <void1> 但是，都不如自己买个vps靠谱
[12:12] <sennn> 不是吧
[12:12] <sennn> amazon vps 不错,就是得花钱
[12:12] <sennn> 花美元
[12:13] <sennn> 速度快的一笔
[12:13] <cxy> void1: vps买国内的还是国外的
[12:14] <sennn> cxy,当码农,不懂科学上网,等于瞎了眼睛......
[12:15] <void1> 当然国外的，不然还怎么翻
[12:15] <cxy> sennn: 我靠，你好愤怒的赶脚……
[12:15] <sennn> 哈哈哈哈
[12:15] <cxy> sennn: 你是一线码农吗？
[12:16] <sennn> 不是
[12:16] <cxy> void1: 国外的能推荐几个服务商不？ 比较靠谱的
[12:16] <cxy> sennn: 学生党？
[12:16] <void1> linode, amazon
[12:16] <cxy> void1: 3Q
[12:17] <sennn> cxy,保密局......
[12:17] <cxy> sennn: ……
[12:17] <void1> 不过都比较贵，taobao上找便宜的也行速度慢点
[12:18] <cxy> void1: taobao？ taobao连这都卖？
[12:18] <void1> 比如ubuntu-cn 论坛老大的taobao店
[12:18] <cxy> void1: 好的，我看看去
[12:18] <cxy> cxy: 自己家的保密局吧
[12:19] <cxy> sennn: 自己家的保密局吧
[12:19] <sennn> cxy,你猜...
[12:20] <cxy> sennn: 我猜你就是现在吃饱了无聊：）
[12:20] <sennn> ......
[12:22] <cxy> sennn: 你做什么工作的
[12:22] <cxy> sennn: 我现在想跳槽 了解下
[12:22] <hoxily> http://static4.businessinsider.com/image/553a1dfbdd0895d5058b4600-1200-667/screen%20shot%202015-04-24%20at%2011.15.56.png
[12:22] <^k^> hoxily: ⇪ image/png
[13:21] <^k^> 新 初学者园地 - 15.04 • 如何查看虚拟机分配的硬盘容量已经使用了多少 http://forum.ubuntu.org.cn/viewtopic.php?t=469772 昨天刚装好ubuntu 14.04.2 用的virtualbox，分配了10g的硬盘 想知道现在已经用了多少，应该怎么看？百度了一下好像没什么方法。 zz: alexxue81 — 2015-04-24 20:56
[13:25] <ishamo> df -h
[13:26] <void1> 这样说没用 XD
[13:26] <void1> 去论坛回帖
[13:26] <ishamo> 呃. .
[13:38] <^k^> 新 启动和引导 • update-grub2 发生tail:无法打开"$" 读取数据：没有那个文件或目录 http://forum.ubuntu.org.cn/viewtopic.php?t=469773 我安装了两个硬盘，一个装win7，一个装ubuntu14.04，装ubuntu的那个硬盘引导坏了，进ubuntu用update-grub2命令时找到了win7系统，可是出现错误提示：tail:无法打开“$” 读取数
[13:38] <^k^> ─> 据：没有那个文件或目录。 之后就停止了，请问这是什么原因？ zz: 水刃木栋 — 2015-04- …
[13:44] <BuMangHuo> iMadper: 现在人人影视的地址是啥
[13:46] <archl> BuMangHuo, 你晚上竟然不是和妹子一起玩，还看影视
[13:46] <archl> BuMangHuo, 好吧，别让你妹子看到
[13:47] <HowIsItGoing> BuMangHuo: 字幕组
[13:48] <BuMangHuo> HowIsItGoing: 求个地址
[13:48] <HowIsItGoing> BuMangHuo: 字幕组撒
[13:49] <BuMangHuo> http://www.yyets.cc/ 这好像不对
[13:49] <^k^> BuMangHuo: ⇪ 新人人影视,美剧,日剧,电影,资讯下载,YYeTs双语字幕-人人影视
[13:50] <HowIsItGoing> BuMangHuo: zimuzu撒
[13:50] <BuMangHuo> 我看看
[13:51] <BuMangHuo> 唉这还真是个地址
[14:00] <archl> BuMangHuo, 你们到底有多少精力啊，看过了多少小时的视频
[14:01] <happyaron> BuMangHuo: iMadper 下周期初期我会强行revert回我厂默认主题
[14:01] <happyaron> BuMangHuo: 万人斩，要让我成妹子壕，先给我几个妹子
[14:01] <iMadper> BuMangHuo: 不知啊
[14:01] <archl> happyaron, 你再说什么，你到底是哪个厂的。
[14:01] <iMadper> happyaron: 啥主题?
[14:01] <happyaron> archl: 我厂
[14:01] <happyaron> iMadper: 标题栏主题神马的
[14:01] <iMadper> happyaron: 无所谓啊.
[14:01] <happyaron> iMadper: 他们的壁纸现在是相当可以了，把深度什么的虐成渣渣
[14:02] <iMadper> happyaron: 你说麒麟吗?
[14:02] <archl> happyaron, 关键是深度本来就不行啊
[14:02] <happyaron> iMadper: y
[14:02] <iMadper> happyaron: 跟我没关系啊... 我不碰麒麟的...
[14:02] <happyaron> lol
[14:02] <archl> 深度的壁纸和mint有一拼的难看。。。
[14:03] <happyaron> iMadper: UES team 的童鞋，说不定哪天你就被弄来给麒麟打工了
[14:03] <happyaron> archl: lol
[14:03] <happyaron> archl: 这个我就不好评价了
[14:03] <iMadper> happyaron: 毛
[14:03] <archl> happyaron, 所以不要较真，很可能更多人喜欢深度哦。
[14:04] <happyaron> iMadper: 走着瞧哦
[14:04] <happyaron> archl: 不在乎这个啊
[14:04] <iMadper> happyaron: 安啦, 我短期内都有项目做, 长期来说, 说不定我就跳走了啊
[14:05] <happyaron> iMadper: 求带装逼求带飞
[14:05] <iMadper> happyaron: ... ...
[14:05] <happyaron> iMadper: 可以有high priority冲进joey的list嘛
[14:06] <happyaron> iMadper: 这样你短期有啥没啥就不重要了
[14:06] <iMadper> happyaron: 可以啊, 你发过来试试看咯~
[14:06] <archl> happyaron, 你不是n大洲大侠吗
[14:06] <happyaron> iMadper: 不是时候，我还等你带我装逼带我飞呢
[14:06] <happyaron> iMadper: 啥好地方求带跳
[14:06] <happyaron> archl: 不是啊
[14:06] <iMadper> happyaron: 有多高优先级就来多高, 看看会不会把我assign过去
[14:06] <happyaron> iMadper: 太高了就把 binli 坑了
[14:06] * archl 感觉北京的人们好容易互相拼啊
[14:07] <iMadper> happyaron: 低了坑的也不是我, 高了坑的也不是我, 我有啥担心.
[14:07] <happyaron> iMadper: 回头指名道姓坑你
[14:07] <iMadper> happyaron: 我老板看我什么都不会, 不会让我去做麒麟的
[14:07] <iMadper> happyaron: 那就得说的出道理才行咯
[14:07] <happyaron> iMadper: 有空和 jzheng 聊聊，说你这样比较适合来麒麟锻炼锻炼
[14:08] <happyaron> iMadper: 然后回头就能成 binli 第二了
[14:08] <iMadper> happyaron: 试试看咯
[14:08] <happyaron> iMadper: 还是求带装逼求带飞比较现实
[14:08] <iMadper> happyaron: 快去玩snappy啊
[14:08] <iMadper> happyaron: 这个坑大
[14:08] <happyaron> iMadper: 不玩
[14:09] <iMadper> happyaron: 坑大好装逼啊
[14:09] <happyaron> iMadper: 你跳槽了带上我就好
[14:09] <iMadper> happyaron: ... ...
[14:18] * archl 是在干什么的人啊
[14:39] <HowIsItGoing> iMadper: 球带跳
[14:56] <^k^> 新 网卡问题以及网络和拨号 • 15.04 对 RTL8192ee无线网卡的支持仍然不行 http://forum.ubuntu.org.cn/viewtopic.php?t=469774 继台式机升级15.04之后，今晚把笔记本X240s也升级到15.04了。以前在14.04上是自己编译的RTL8192ee驱动，不是很稳定，本来对15.04抱有很大希望，结果令人失望。 15.04号称内核带 RTL8
[23:02] <hoxily> kandu: 早上好。
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2015-04-24-#ubuntu-app-devel
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[00:09] <amrlima> hi, is there a way to add a share widget to a scope? Can the "actions" preview widget be used like that?
[05:18] <zsombi> t1mp: karni: I have the feeling the dialog is not shown due to its parent not being set/visible. Remember, the root Item is not yet known by the FW when the topmost component is completed. The QGuiApplication::topLevelWindows() will get the QQuickView listed only after the actual root item's onCompleted is emitted. The timer makes sure the call is after that, so the rootItem is detected and teh dialig sizing-positioning is doable
[07:18] <dholbach> good morning
[07:18] <akiva-thinkpad> dholbach, morning
[07:20] <dholbach> hey akiva-thinkpad
[07:34] <justCarakas> heey akiva-thinkpad :)
[07:36] <akiva-thinkpad> justCarakas, oh hey hows it going?
[07:36] <akiva-thinkpad> how goes the html5?
[07:36] <akiva-thinkpad> justCarakas, are you going to attend the ubuntu online summit?
[07:38] <justCarakas> I'm working on a bible app with angular
[07:38] <karni> zsombi: t1mp: perhaps it would make sense to have a signal that lets developers know when the UI is actually ready? otherwise, we'll have dozens of timers around the code, and that's really ugly.
[07:38] <justCarakas> and my app BE Mobile works again :)
[07:39] <akiva-thinkpad> justCarakas, ah thats cool !
[07:39] <justCarakas> I'm going to try to follow as much as I can from work, but I can't even follow the Q&A's anymore because then Im on my way home because of daylight saving
[07:39] <akiva-thinkpad> lol yah tell me about it
[07:39] <akiva-thinkpad> the gang here starts work at 12am my time, and finishes 8 am my time
[07:40] <akiva-thinkpad> so if I am actually here, that is indicative of a very upside down sleep schedule :P
[07:41] <akiva-thinkpad> mmmm looks like I got a refresh button for autopilot :)
[07:41] <justCarakas> akiva-thinkpad: poor you
[07:42] <justCarakas> akiva-thinkpad: I was just wondering if I would scrap the new testament from showing could I dubble launch the app as Tanakh app ?
[07:43] <akiva-thinkpad> heh now your speaking my language ~
[07:43] <akiva-thinkpad> I wish more translations were public domain, as I don't think artscroll is
[07:54] <justCarakas> too bad
[07:54] <justCarakas> I wouldn't mind adding a hebrew translation
[07:54] <akiva-thinkpad> Tell me bout it~
[08:07] <t1mp> zsombi: when we get the functionality that tracks changes in the parent maybe we can use that to show the popover when the root item is detected?
[08:18] <justCarakas> anyway akiva-thinkpad if you would find one I would include it :)
[08:18] <akiva-thinkpad> justCarakas, will keep my open
[08:33] <zsombi> t1mp: the problem is that we know that the topmost items is the root item only after we get the QQuickWindow. And thereá sno signal which would tell us that now it is set
[08:34] <zsombi> karni: ^ also to you
[08:34] <zsombi> karni: so the problem si we don't know when that is happening :/
[08:34] <zsombi> is
[08:35] <karni> zsombi: then we emit a signal down the tree once we get the qquickwindow? a new signal.
[08:35] <zsombi> karni: we don't know when we do get that, there's noone telling us, QGuiApplication has no signal which would say
[08:37] <karni> Can't believe what I'm hearing. I'm not saying you're right, but I consider these things so basic I'm puzzled we can't do such things propely.
[08:37] <karni> lol, I'm not saying you're wrong ;)
[08:37] <karni> I totally flipped that hehe
[08:38] <zsombi> karni: this is not teh first time this popped up, believe me
[08:38] <karni> oh I do believe you
[10:43] <davidcalle> bzoltan_, zbenjamin, hey, how can you update an existing qmlproject to a newer template?
[10:43] <bzoltan_> davidcalle: there is no automatic migration tool... you do it manually
[11:06] <nik90> bzoltan_: with the release of ubuntu 15.04, can we expect a 15.04 framework anytime soon with the new APIs?
[11:07] <bzoltan_> nik90: the frameworks are available both from the SDK and on the device
[11:07] <bzoltan_> nik90: and to be honest, the frameworks do not really define the APIs .. they are what is in the release
[11:10] <nik90> bzoltan_: true, but without the 15.04-framework, developers cant get to use U.C 1.2?
[11:10] <nik90> well glad to see it finally available
[11:11] <bzoltan_> nik90: the framework is there for developers, all you need is a 15.04 device
[11:12] <nik90> bzoltan_: yeah now it is..previously there wasn't a 15.04 framework on a 15.04 device. well atleast I remember it complaining about such a framework not recognized
[11:12] <bzoltan_> nik90: Yeps, since then it was fixed
[11:14] <davidcalle> bzoltan_, so manually... ok, but how?
[11:15] <bzoltan_> davidcalle: I would make an empty app from the new template and copy to it the qml files and whatever it needs from the old project. I do not think it takes more than that.
[11:16] <bzoltan_> davidcalle: obviously you will nedd to make the tests for example on your own. But there is no way to magically create tests for an app :)
[11:16] <popey> nik90: confirmed, my vivid device has ubuntu-sdk-15.04* frameworks
[11:17] <nik90> popey: yup, I just checked as well. Time to get the online docs updated to show all the new stuff finally so that app devs can prepare their apps to use the cool new stuff that landed in the sdk.
[11:18] * nik90 gets back to his blog post about the sdk
[11:19] <davidcalle> bzoltan_, no of course, I was just looking for the right steps to migrate. So it would be somethin like : 1) rename you app folder to something else 2) create an app with the same name/appid/whatever with the new template 3) move your qml and .bzr files
[11:59] <zbenjamin> davidcalle: probably it would be enough to move the Makefile over
[12:22] <karni> It seems QML Label is using font.weight: Font.Light instead of Font.Normal as default (although I'm not seeing that in the source). can someone confirm that? I would also add that font weight is not exposed via property - and if that's by design (for UI consistency), then we're trading that over flexibility, forcing the developer to use Label with font.pixelSize set manually with FontUtils.sizeToPixels(fontSize)
[12:24] <nik90> karni: well since QML Label is derived from Qt Text, you should be able to use all the properties that Qt Text offers as well, no?
[12:25] <karni> oh, it's actually not *wrapped* in something else, that large doc comment was confusing. nik90, true ;))
[12:26] <karni> anyhow, the question about the default holds. light is not very easy/convenient to read.
[12:26] <nik90> karni: I think this was a design change a couple of months..cant remember exactly when
[12:28] <nik90> I haven't paid too much attention to it because it doesn't affect the readability for me atleast
[12:28] <karni> nik90: I admitted that user was right in our case https://bugs.launchpad.net/libqtelegram/+bug/1437892
[12:28] <nik90> it seems to be a trend lately going for Font.Light
[12:28] <karni> Font.Normal is so much better
[12:28] <karni> (in this particular case, at least)
[12:58] <davidcalle> zbenjamin, I've tried to move a newer makefile (on several projects) and it consistently fails to build after that.
[13:03] <m-b-o> popey o/ Can't connect...
[13:04] <m-b-o> popey or no hangout now?
[13:09] <popey> m-b-o: can we do irc?
[13:09] <popey> #ubuntu-touch-meeting ?
[13:32] <nik90> aquarius: you about?
[13:32] <aquarius> I am
[13:33] <nik90> aquarius: one sec, let me share a link
[14:32] <SturmFlut> van QGeoSatelliteInfoSource be used on the phone? Is the implementation connected to the actual GPS backend?
[14:33] <SturmFlut> s/van/can/
[14:45] <parnstermia> Hi, i want to learn how to do a graphical interface for my c++ application, I'd like to use it in linux enviroments, what language, or what should i look in order to do it?
[14:45] <parnstermia> i've never done anything like this before
[15:36] <vitimiti> I am working on this app: https://launchpad.net/youtube-dl-ubutouch | I need to ship the youtubedl binary I have in the backend folder in the click package and know where it is installed exactly (same place as qmldir) so as to be able to execute it with a QProcess. Can somebody help me with that?
[16:04] <popey> vitimiti: nice
[16:04] <popey> vitimiti: i think some other apps do this with a small c++ plugin
[16:05] <vitimiti> popey, thanks, but I can't properly create the package. I was expecting being able to set a dependency for youtube-dl, but click packages don't let me do that
[16:05] <popey> correct
[16:05] <popey> you need to ship your binary inside the click
[16:07] <vitimiti> This is my problem, I don't seem to be able to handle that properly, it's already inside the project, and I don't know where I should install it in the system or how to do so, either
[16:11] <popey> i dont know, maybe ask on the G+ community
[16:12] <vitimiti> I'll try that, popey, thanks
[16:35] <vitimiti> popey, can you tell me where this G+ community is? I can't find it, I don't use G+ that much
[16:40] <DanChapman> vitimiti: https://plus.google.com/u/0/communities/111350780270925540549
[16:40] <vitimiti> Thank you, DanChapman
[16:40] <DanChapman> np
[17:06] <renatu> charles, what is the state of silo 8?
[17:23] <vitimiti> I want to install an i386 emulator to try my app, I see there are many versions for it, like devel, proposed, etc. What should I should if I'm using a qmake project?
[17:24] <nik90> devel-proposed
[17:24] <nik90> vitimiti: ^^
[17:24] <vitimiti> nik90, thank you
[17:50] <rickspencer3> anyone know what happened to the devices tab in 15.04?
[17:50] <rickspencer3> in QtCreator, I mean
[17:51] <DanChapman> rickspencer3: i still have it on the left tab bar
[17:51] <rickspencer3> thanks DanChapman
[17:52] <rickspencer3> the PPA was probably uninstalled when I upgraded or something
[21:44] <juzzlin> Is there anyone who would be able to fix this: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/qtcreator-plugin-cmake/+bug/1299441
[21:46] <josharenson> My application is reporting NetworkingStatus.online as always true. Any reason that might be the case?
[21:49] <josharenson> Seems to work on mobile. There are several bad bugs that I only see on desktop though.
[23:10] <vitimiti> The i386 devel proposed emulator is never telling the SDK if it's connected or not or if it has the developer mode enabled or not. Is this a known issue or is it that I have to wait even more? I've been waiting several hours already
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ubuntu-chat
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2024-05-13T22:11:13.575917
| 2015-04-24T00:00:00 |
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2015-04-24-#ubuntu-devel
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[06:32] <pragomer> Hello. Searching for a channel where I can ask a specific question about ubuntu-remastering (its a basic/beginners question).
[07:18] <dholbach> good morning
[08:13] <pitti> Good morning
[08:16] <larsu> morning!
[08:17] <infinity> sarnold: Good thing it's a wiki.
[08:24] <mhall119> YokoZar: I'm not in a position where I can tell anybody what to work on :)
[08:25] <caribou> Laney: morning, I've just submitted LP: #1447662 request to backport to trusty
[08:25] <caribou> Laney: it's just a fix over the existing package, do you still need the whole template ?
[08:26] <caribou> Laney: well, you or anybody in the backport team
[09:50] <pitti> infinity: /usr/share/ubuntu-drivers-common/fake-devices-wrapper ubuntu-drivers
[10:00] <LocutusOfBorg1> hi pitti congrats for the systemd release!
[10:00] <LocutusOfBorg1> (congrats to everybody)
[10:00] <pitti> LocutusOfBorg1: cheers!
[10:00] <LocutusOfBorg1> I'm enjoying my new vivid system right now <3
[11:36] <ScottK> rbasak: Bug #1438745 looks like an excellent target for an early Vivid SRU.
[12:55] <rbasak> ScottK: thanks. I think I just screwed that up by adding a Vivid task assuming that W is open it but it isn't. Never mind. Anyway, I'll get it done.
[12:56] <rbasak> ScottK: bit short of time between now and a Canonical sprint running next week though, so might not get to it for a few days, sorry.
[12:56] <ScottK> Feel free to ping me to review for ubuntu-sru when it's uploaded.
[12:56] <rbasak> Ack, thanhks.
[12:58] <rbasak> strikov: ^^ is that something you'd like to have a stab at, if you're free? Looks very straightforward - just need to spend a bit of time reproducing/testing fix/verifying.
[12:58] <strikov> rbasak: i'm mostly done with it; i have an appointment right now -- so i'll finish it and send to you in ~2 hours. does it work?
[12:58] <jamespage> sarnold, hey - thanks for the conntrack security review
[12:58] <rbasak> strikov: sure! Thanks.
[12:58] <jamespage> mucho appreciated.
[13:23] <pitti> kirkland: hate, hate, hate swap :/ (bug 1447282)
[13:28] <cjwatson> pitti: New ddebs are on. Can you watch out for strange mails from ddeb-retriever?
[13:46] <wgrant> cjwatson: He left for his flight a few minutes after I finished poking the bits, so he's aware but not around.
[13:46] <cjwatson> Ah, OK.
[13:47] <cjwatson> I've arranged for ddeb mail to go to me as well for the time being, then.
[13:47] <wgrant> Sounds good.
[14:26] <parnstermia> i want to do a graphical interface of my c++ program, what language do you recomend to start with this?
[14:39] <rbasak> parnstermia: try #ubuntu-app-devel
[14:46] <dobey> why would lxc-create complain about lxcguest not being available when trying to create a vivid lxc?
[16:25] <strikov> rbasak: ScottK: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/clamav/+bug/1438745/comments/5
[16:26] <rbasak> strikov: thanks! I'll review so ScottK can ack the SRU.
[16:26] <strikov> rbasak: thanks
[16:41] <rbasak> ScottK: uploaded, waiting for approval in vivid-proposed please.
[16:43] <rbasak> ScottK: maybe better to skip ageing period too, as users are going to hit it on upgrade only, and we've only just released?
[16:43] <ScottK> Perhaps.
[16:46] <ScottK> rbasak: Accepted. Thanks.
[16:57] <bdmurray> jdstrand: Do you know what package I should report this (recommending apt-get) about? http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/10874819/
[17:00] <rbasak> bdmurray: I think the locale warning message comes from cloud-init if that's what you're asking.
[17:01] <rbasak> bdmurray: and I sometimes see that if I ssh to an instance before cloud-init is done (on non-snappy instances).
[17:03] <bdmurray> rbasak: it is, thanks
[17:09] <jdstrand> bdmurray: not otoh. If you file against ubuntu-snappy in ubuntu, or snappy-ubuntu the project, someone will get it to the right place
[17:50] <doko> pitti, still online?
[17:53] <ScottK> rbasak: Someone needs to verify the clamav upload before I can consider waiving the age.
[17:54] <rbasak> Understood.
[17:54] <rbasak> strikov: will you have time to do the verification, please?
[17:54] <rbasak> I'm EOD and will generally be gone until I arrive at the sprint.
[17:55] <rbasak> (around Monday lunchtime, as I have a prior commitment)
[17:55] <strikov> rbasak: will do; see you; have a safe flight
[17:55] <rbasak> Thanks, you too. See you there!
[18:35] <strikov> ScottK: verification done for #1438745
[18:35] <strikov> ScottK: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/clamav/+bug/1438745
[19:09] <ScottK> rbasak: (and strikov if he were here) - clamav released. There's a new upload in Debian, so it can be merged when "w" opens and then there's no version mismatch risk to worry about.
[19:41] <arges> hallyn_: i see your bug...
[20:15] <bdmurray> barry: I just sent you an email about the python-pip regressions as I've figured out what was up.
[20:38] <hallyn_> arges: "upgrade to backport kernels already' is a fair solution
[20:43] <barry> bdmurray: cool
[21:08] <arges> hallyn_: yea it would be good to know if 3.16 works fine with that configuration
[21:10] <hallyn_> arges: i have several containers (including this irc) running on that so switching takes some time :)
[21:10] <hallyn_> but i'm happy to try, maybe monday
[21:10] <hallyn_> (probably not from the airport :)
[22:54] <rbasak> ScottK: thank you!
[22:55] <rbasak> ScottK: hmm. https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/clamav/+publishinghistory suggests it's not in vivid-updates.
[22:59] <ev> pitti: do we not install Recommends in autopkgtesting by policy? Trusty python3-pandas has a bunch of skipped tests because python3-numexpr isn't installed.
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ubuntu-chat
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2024-05-13T22:11:13.581432
| 2015-04-24T00:00:00 |
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"rbasak",
"strikov",
"wgrant"
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2015-04-24-#ubuntu-installer
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[08:42] <xnox> cyphermox: yo, i am around.
[08:42] <xnox> my irc was in-accessible for 3 weeks though =/
[08:42] * xnox is back back now
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ubuntu-chat
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2024-05-13T22:11:13.582543
| 2015-04-24T00:00:00 |
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"authors": [
"xnox"
],
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"channel": "#ubuntu-installer"
}
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2015-04-24-#ubuntu-ops
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[01:25] <elky> phunyguy: i made my face hurt with curry. i don't know what's going on right now
[01:29] <phunyguy> lol
[01:29] <phunyguy> that's good stuff.
[05:14] <stevendale> Hi
[05:17] <stevendale> Let me get this straight. I got banned for joining with a different nick, then leaving without saying anything?
[11:38] <bazhang> he just wanted to waste time, have him in PM
[11:39] <k1l> i even provided a pictured howto for the server install with all steps. he wanted to be an issue
[11:45] <Tsterxer> Hi
[11:46] <Tsterxer> Did my ban was justice and the attitude, my attitude to them?
[11:46] <Tsterxer> Prefer not bazhang to involve
[11:46] <Tsterxer> But can read.
[13:06] <k1l> !15.04
[13:06] <k1l> it is the release :)
[13:17] <Pici> !itsawiki
[13:18] <Pici> i mean, a bot
[13:18] <Pici> I'll update it ;)
[13:18] <k1l> !14.10
[13:18] <Pici> I have a system.
[13:19] <k1l> until is figurered the right bot commands someone having more experience is already done :)
[13:27] <Pici> !vvid
[13:27] <Pici> !vivid
[13:27] <Pici> !14.10
[13:28] <k1l> thx Pici
[13:56] <popey> uh
[13:56] <popey> !14.10
[13:56] <popey> s/UBuntu/Ubuntu/ ?
[13:57] <Pici> oops
[13:57] <Pici> !utopic =~ s/UB/Ub/
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ubuntu-chat
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2024-05-13T22:11:13.586752
| 2015-04-24T00:00:00 |
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"Pici",
"Tsterxer",
"bazhang",
"elky",
"k1l",
"phunyguy",
"popey",
"stevendale"
],
"url": "https://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2015/04/24/%23ubuntu-ops.txt",
"channel": "#ubuntu-ops"
}
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2015-04-24-#ubuntu-us-oh
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[06:03] <Unit193> Temp: 32 F (0 C) ~ Clear ~ Windchill: 29 F (-2 C) ~ Luftfeucht.: 69% ~ Beobachtet: Fri 24, 01:52
[06:03] <Unit193> :D
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ubuntu-chat
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2024-05-13T22:11:13.588916
| 2015-04-24T00:00:00 |
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"license": "Public Domain",
"authors": [
"Unit193"
],
"url": "https://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2015/04/24/%23ubuntu-us-oh.txt",
"channel": "#ubuntu-us-oh"
}
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2015-04-24-#bzr
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[12:12] <dreamcat4^> hello! pls help. i would like to uninstall / reinstall bzr + bzr-svn on ubuntu 14.10.
[12:12] <dreamcat4^> it seems 'broken' on my system ATM (for want of a better word).
[12:17] <dreamcat4^> hmm. it seems due to the bzr-svn plugin. as when i remove that... then it works again.
[12:17] <dreamcat4^> so how do i unstall bzr-svn on 14.10 ?
[12:24] <dreamcat4^> i tried this method of installing bzr-svn as a ~/.bazaar/ plugin. but it cause many error msgs :( ----> http://askubuntu.com/a/362874
[12:32] <dreamcat4^> what about this .spec file? ---> https://github.com/pld-linux/bzr-svn/blob/master/bzr-svn.spec
[12:33] <dreamcat4^> ah, thats for building a .rpm from...
[12:49] <dreamcat4^> $ bzr svn
[12:49] <dreamcat4^> Option "guessed-layout" is not allowed.
[12:49] <dreamcat4^> bzr: ERROR: unknown command "svn"
[17:14] <maxb> dreamcat4^: I believe bzr-svn is now unmaintained and has bitrotted sufficiently to be a pain to make work with latest bzr
[17:15] <maxb> Indeed bzr-svn isn't packaged in 14.10
[17:23] <dreamcat4^> maxb: yes. i am aware of this now. :(
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ubuntu-chat
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2024-05-13T22:11:13.592199
| 2015-04-24T00:00:00 |
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"dreamcat4^",
"maxb"
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"channel": "#bzr"
}
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2015-04-24-#ubuntu-mythtv
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[15:00] <StrvnMrvn> installed gcdemu in mythbuntu-14.04.2-lts via PPA and apt reported no problems however
[15:01] <StrvnMrvn> when launching from the menu, no GTK gui opens. just nada
[15:03] <StrvnMrvn> ps -A | grep emu gives 'gcdemu' and cdemu-daemon' as running procs
[15:03] <StrvnMrvn> i'm guessing the PPA build isn't taking into account an xfce environment
[15:04] <StrvnMrvn> not sure what to check next
[15:04] <tgm4883> StrvnMrvn: what is gcdemu?
[15:04] <StrvnMrvn> VirtualCD for linux
[15:05] <tgm4883> why do you need a virtualcd for linux?
[15:05] <StrvnMrvn> setting it up for a normal user
[15:05] <StrvnMrvn> errr, non-linux user
[15:05] <tgm4883> for isos?
[15:05] <StrvnMrvn> and such
[15:06] <tgm4883> a normal user can't right click and mount?
[15:06] <StrvnMrvn> it handles a huge spectrum of formats
[15:07] <StrvnMrvn> via libMirage
[15:08] <StrvnMrvn> like the old CDRwin bin/cue, etc
[15:09] <tgm4883> StrvnMrvn: ok, but why are you asking for support for that in here? Do they not have support?
[15:09] <StrvnMrvn> he's got a large collection of images from times past, coming from Win
[15:10] <StrvnMrvn> there's a cdemu maillist, they support source builds only. not seeing a support channel for the PPA builder
[15:11] <StrvnMrvn> thought i'd check in here seeing as this knowledge pool for buntu/xfce would be higher
[15:11] <tgm4883> well that doesn't mean that we'll support it here. My suggestion would be to try running it from the command line and seeing if there are any errors. I doubt it's "not taking xfce into account"
[15:13] <StrvnMrvn> tried that, no helpful output from the cli
[15:13] <tgm4883> IDK
[15:13] <tgm4883> try converting all of them to ISO?
[15:14] <StrvnMrvn> some need to stay the way they are. bin/cues lose meta, etc
[15:14] <StrvnMrvn> but thx for the input. i know i'm going off the reservation here. just thought i'd give it a shot
[15:37] <StrvnMrvn> fwiw, right-click brings 'open with gcdemu' as an option and mounts so he'll live with that
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ubuntu-chat
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2024-05-13T22:11:13.598145
| 2015-04-24T00:00:00 |
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"StrvnMrvn",
"tgm4883"
],
"url": "https://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2015/04/24/%23ubuntu-mythtv.txt",
"channel": "#ubuntu-mythtv"
}
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2015-04-24-#ubuntu-no
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[12:11] <kilonux> goddagallesammen
[12:13] <kilonux> jeg vil lage et nytt rep på / som jeg vil bruke til å lagre ting, min /home er full. Hvordan gjøre jeg det?
[12:18] <RoyK> nytt rep?
[12:18] <RoyK> hvis /home er full, er det vel på tide å rydde litt ,)
[12:18] <RoyK> ;)
[12:19] <RoyK> evt stappe inn større disk
[12:25] <kilonux> joda, men jeg er på sparebluss
[12:25] <kilonux> vet du ikke hvordan det gjøres?
[12:27] <kilonux> trenger ikke nytt rep, men rettigheter til /opt f.eks
[12:49] <kilonux> orna. Morna
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ubuntu-chat
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2024-05-13T22:11:13.601649
| 2015-04-24T00:00:00 |
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"authors": [
"RoyK",
"kilonux"
],
"url": "https://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2015/04/24/%23ubuntu-no.txt",
"channel": "#ubuntu-no"
}
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2015-04-24-#launchpad
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[10:28] <dreamcat4^> hello again! it seems i can't import SVN urls from github? what's up with that?
[10:29] <wgrant> Why can't you do that?
[10:29] <dreamcat4^> i need to use svn (instead of git) b/c submodules in repo's git history, and the new git isn't ready yet.
[10:30] <dreamcat4^> wgrant: it accepts the URL, but the log shows an error msg. this issue has been reported several times.
[10:30] <wgrant> An error message?
[10:30] <dreamcat4^> wgrant: it is: ' INFO No branch found at remote location.'
[10:30] <wgrant> You could also link to the branch.
[10:31] <dreamcat4^> wgrant: http://launchpadlibrarian.net/204306428/dreamcat4-dreamcat4-tvheadend-master.log
[10:31] <dreamcat4^> the branch page is: https://code.launchpad.net/~dreamcat4/dreamcat4-tvheadend/master
[10:33] <dreamcat4^> wgrant: & github svn help page: https://help.github.com/articles/support-for-subversion-clients/
[10:34] <wgrant> Hm
[10:34] <wgrant> It's probably GitHub doing dodgy referer-based routing.
[10:34] <wgrant> Which we can't easily work around.
[10:34] <dreamcat4^> wgrant: ok. be back in a sec.
[10:40] <dreamcat4^> wgrant: ok. well i did offer that explanation back up to #github freenode IRC just now.
[10:41] <dreamcat4^> wgrant: they suggested to try another repo without submodules, but am sceptical. b/c the error msg does not suggest that as the cause.
[10:42] <dreamcat4^> wgrant: your hunch that is hidden behind some ruby / rack redirects seems more likely
[10:42] <wgrant> dreamcat4^: I imagine it's similar to the bitbucket situation, where they only serve git repos to clients with git user-agents.
[10:42] <wgrant> Oh, I said referer earlier, but I meant User-Agent.
[10:50] <dreamcat4^> wgrant: so launchpad can't present itself as a 'svn' user agent, when connecting to github during the svn import ?
[10:51] <wgrant> No.
[10:52] <dreamcat4^> wgrant: hmm.
[10:53] <dreamcat4^> (i look for other possible svn URL of github)
[10:55] <dreamcat4^> wgrant: i try other url now: https://svn.github.com/tvheadend/tvheadend.git
[10:56] <cjwatson> That doesn't even work with svn co.
[10:57] <dreamcat4^> cjwatson: right. the only URL that work seems to be 'https://github.com/tvheadend/tvheadend'
[10:58] <dreamcat4^> so it seems now more like launchpad aught set it's user agent string properly (if that's possible)
[10:58] <wgrant> Or rather that GitHub shouldn't sniff User-Agent strings.
[10:58] <wgrant> 'cause that's sorta evil.
[10:59] <Spads> everybody set your user-agent to svn now!
[11:00] <dreamcat4^> wgrant: i don't think they are doing anything too terribly evil... if svn client works that way. then it aught to be compatible with svn.
[11:01] <wgrant> Hmm?
[11:01] <wgrant> User-Agent sniffing is unequivocally evil.
[11:04] <dreamcat4^> wgrant: why ?
[11:04] <wgrant> Because it breaks other clients that are otherwise perfectly compatible.
[11:04] <wgrant> eg. bzr-svn
[11:05] <dreamcat4^> it's a program running on their servers. it's necessary b/c svn, git, et all support transport over https now.
[11:05] <dreamcat4^> wgrant: ah right. so it's bzr-svn that's failing then. thanks for mentioning that.
[11:05] <cjwatson> They make entirely different requests over that protocol, though.
[14:59] <jelmer> dreamcat4^: this is akin to serving different content to firefox and ie users
[15:54] <dreamcat4^> jelmer: i know. unfortunately that fact doesn't make bzr-svn majically come back from the dead. all i can really do if ask github to provide alternate URL. but there is a big chance they may not provide one.
[15:56] <dreamcat4^> jelmer: but also... it's not quite the same thing the way github uses it
[15:57] <wgrant> SVn and Git make very obviously different requests.
[15:57] <wgrant> You can distinguish the protocol by more than just the User-Agent.
[16:01] <dreamcat4^> wgrant: ok. so if github did either thing, then bzr-svn would work again on github. so they can take their pick.
[16:02] <wgrant> Sure
[16:25] <dreamcat4^> wgrant: but i get an impression they are sending the connections directly to different backends. In which case their code path must decide which backend to sent the new connection to (and not peeking the stream fo first data). That would probably be a lot harder for them to implement.
[16:26] <wgrant> But also a whole lot less wrong!
[16:27] <dreamcat4^> wgrant: well i've just clicked 'submit' on the Github help request form. we shall just have to see what they say about it. (i explained both options).
[16:28] <wgrant> Yep, either one will work.
[16:28] <wgrant> The alternate endpoint is likely easier for them.
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ubuntu-chat
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2024-05-13T22:11:13.608521
| 2015-04-24T00:00:00 |
{
"license": "Public Domain",
"authors": [
"Spads",
"cjwatson",
"dreamcat4^",
"jelmer",
"wgrant"
],
"url": "https://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2015/04/24/%23launchpad.txt",
"channel": "#launchpad"
}
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2015-04-24-#kubuntu
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[00:03] <GunnDawg> if I dont format my /home partition when installing 15.04 I can retain all the data in there, correct?
[00:08] <valorie> yes
[00:08] <valorie> of course you should still backup before installing
[00:09] <valorie> as insurance
[00:09] <GunnDawg> valorie: of course.
[00:09] <valorie> well, I didn't do that last time
[00:09] <valorie> to my regret
[00:09] <valorie> Stuff Happened
[00:10] <GunnDawg> :(
[00:10] <GunnDawg> gotta hate when "stuff happens"
[00:10] <valorie> I had had too much good luck in the past I guess
[00:10] <valorie> sometimes Reality bops you on the head, just to wake you up
[00:11] <GunnDawg> I preach regular backups to my customers. I'm a shop tech here at a local repair shop
[00:11] <GunnDawg> they usually blow my advice off then when their HDD crashes they act like its my fault that they lost all their precious photos, etc
[00:20] <ygvtfc> "starting verision 219" how to rid this?
[00:20] <valorie> ygvtfc: does it eventually go away?
[00:21] <valorie> if not, alt+ctl+f2 or so, `systemctl restore sddm`
[00:21] <valorie> and then it may make you login again to start x
[00:21] <valorie> once I even had to `startx`
[00:26] <nfk|laptop> it was permissions
[00:27] <nfk|laptop> did chown -R me:me /home/me/ and it worked
[00:27] <nfk|laptop> though only few/one places were affected
[01:23] <nfk> night
[01:23] <denza252> night
[01:50] <Etriaph> Wow, Breeze Dark is really dark. :D
[01:51] <valorie> just dark enough
[01:52] <valorie> imo
[01:52] <Etriaph> I wish Konversation had a method of saving schemas.
[01:53] <GunnDawg> I prefer dark themes. I'll be installing tonight
[01:55] <Etriaph> https://www.dropbox.com/s/tagn50fwp0f1qma/breeze_dark.png?dl=0
[01:58] <valorie> konvi will just use whatever you choose in KDE
[01:58] <valorie> most KDE applications do that
[01:58] <valorie> you can lighten the background
[01:58] <valorie> Settings > configure Konvi
[02:00] <Etriaph> Konversation has it's own dialog for colours.
[02:01] <valorie> yes
[02:33] <BassFace> how to i use a LiveCD of Precise if it stops when looking for B43 firmware
[02:34] <BassFace> I'm on a PowerPC ibook g4
[02:36] <valorie> !precise
[02:36] <valorie> yep, still supported
[02:36] <valorie> seems so long ago
[02:52] <Etriaph> :)
[02:53] <Etriaph> I've been running Linux and KDE since RedHat Manhattan
[05:26] <GunnDawg> Has anyone had plasma not launch after reboot? after logging in it boots to a black screen, cant do anything
[05:27] <GunnDawg> no task bar, nothing
[05:27] <valorie> GunnDawg: did sddm etc start up as usual?
[05:27] <GunnDawg> valorie: I'm not sure
[05:28] <valorie> ?
[05:28] <GunnDawg> valorie: I dont know what sddm is, and I have nothing but a black screen, not sure how to check
[05:28] <valorie> you logged in
[05:28] <GunnDawg> yes I logged in
[05:28] <valorie> sorry, I missed that
[05:28] <valorie> what happens when you try to start plasma up?
[05:28] <GunnDawg> how do I do that?
[05:29] <valorie> just `plasmashell &` I believe
[05:29] <GunnDawg> plasmashell &
[05:29] <GunnDawg> [1] 1813
[05:29] <GunnDawg> gunndawg@GunnDawgsPC:~$ kf5.kiconthemes: "Theme tree: (Breeze)"
[05:29] <GunnDawg> but does nothing else
[05:30] <valorie> yikes
[05:30] <valorie> well, I would ask for more expert help in #plasma
[05:53] <mydoghasworms> I want to upgrade to 15.04, but want to start with a clean KDE setup. What files should I delete/copy?
[05:56] <valorie> maybe rename ~/.kde ?
[05:57] <Unit193> I'd think there'd be files in .cache and .config as well.
[05:57] <valorie> most stuff will be in ~/.config or ~/.local now though
[05:57] <valorie> does .cache stick around through an upgrade though?
[05:57] <valorie> I would think that would be purged
[05:57] <valorie> but what do I know
[05:59] <anoop> https://bugs.launchpad.net/appmenu-qt5/+bug/1434516
[06:00] <valorie> strange, anoop
[06:01] * valorie goes away to start backing up
[06:05] <anoop> valorie: Yes of-course
[06:07] <anoop> After beta 1, I noticed it. And went back to normal after uninstalling "appmenu-qt5"
[06:07] <anoop> it re-appeared again now, "Breeze" is missing from qtconfig-qt4
[06:13] <mydoghasworms> valorie: I have a separate /home partition, so it is not really an upgrade, but a clean install, but obviously I still have many config files in my home directory.
[06:23] <hyper_ch> hmmm, still can't set desktop to folder view permanently.... after reboot it's back to default one
[06:25] <hyper_ch> btw, 15.04 still has virt desktops, right?
[06:26] <jlotonah_> probably
[06:26] <hyper_ch> can't figure out where to enable that or rather set to two desktops
[06:27] <jlotonah_> configuration panel
[06:27] <jlotonah_> desktop behaviour/virtual desktops
[06:27] <hyper_ch> which configuration panel?
[06:27] <jlotonah_> settings
[06:27] <jlotonah_> system preferences
[06:28] <hyper_ch> ah ok
[06:28] <jlotonah_> yes you can use virtual desktops
[06:28] <hyper_ch> jlotonah_: thx :)
[06:28] <jlotonah_> :)
[06:29] <hyper_ch> 5 annoying issues left
[06:30] <hyper_ch> s/5/6/
[06:32] <hyper_ch> 7
[06:34] <hyper_ch> my locales are a huge mess....
[06:48] <hyper_ch> so, found another issue
so, found another issue. Someone who has used every version of Plasma 5.0, 5.1, 5.2 and 5.3 this sounds very familiar.
[06:54] <donniezazen> valorie: Plasma 5 uses XDG standards. Renaming, removing ~/.kde won't do anything to Plamsa 5. Everything now goes in standard folders like ~/.cache, ~/config, etc.
[06:55] <hyper_ch> donniezazen: my current issues are: error message due to raid when booting up - prolongs booting, can't use attached wireless usb keyboard to enter dm-crypt password need to use notebook keyboard, plasma desktop always reverts back to default instead of showing folder view after reboot, locale problems.... terminal for some reason is german instead of english and desktop uses US time/date instead of Swiss despite having that explicitely set...
[06:55] <hyper_ch> . when set desktop to folder view I can't shift-delete items on it anymore, konsole freezes when resizing, in the kmenu item editor you can't browse for custom icons
[06:56] <hyper_ch> forgot one issue: in kontact, the folder list has massive spacing between the items despite having changed to oxygen theme
[06:57] <donniezazen> hyper_ch: did you upgrade your system
[06:57] <hyper_ch> donniezazen: no, vanilla install
[06:58] <donniezazen> hyper_ch: I can tell you about Kontact. Initially the spacing was outrageous which they reduced a bit. This is now standards in Breeze theme. Lots of whitespace.
[06:58] <PhilippeP> After dist-upgrading yesterday , i am once again shut out of graphical environment , it won't accept my password ... everything works fine in a tty ...
[06:59] <hyper_ch> well, krop's spacing: https://i.imgur.com/6fMknNE.png and my spacing: http://images.sjau.ch/img/0223aedb.png
[06:59] <hyper_ch> donniezazen: and as said, using oxygen theme and style
[07:00] <donniezazen> hyper_ch: about kontact let me pull some links for you where discussion happened a while ago.
[07:00] <hyper_ch> before I had all folders visible
[07:00] <hyper_ch> which is nice since I do server side filtering with sieve
[07:01] <hyper_ch> no, I need to scroll to check if there's new mail somewhere
[07:02] <donniezazen> https://forum.kde.org/viewtopic.php?f=285&t=123715
[07:02] <donniezazen> https://forum.kde.org/viewtopic.php?f=285&t=123561
[07:02] <donniezazen> https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=340999
[07:03] <donniezazen> If you are using Oxygen style I would hope the spacing should not be too bad.
[07:03] <hyper_ch> donniezazen: the image I showed you uses oxygen
[07:03] <donniezazen> yes I can see that
[07:04] <donniezazen> you are right.
[07:04] <hyper_ch> https://i.imgur.com/6fMknNE.png and that's how it was also for me on 14.10
[07:04] <hyper_ch> it uses 50% more space
[07:04] <hyper_ch> why can't you configure the spacing :)
[07:05] <donniezazen> When you right click on the top of list you can set icon size. From looks of it you are already using the smallest icon possible.
[07:05] <hyper_ch> yes
[07:05] <hyper_ch> and I reduced font from 10pt to 9pt which helped a bit
[07:06] <hyper_ch> but reducing font further doesn't alter anything
[07:07] <donniezazen> you should make a comment on this thread https://forum.kde.org/viewtopic.php?f=285&t=123715
[07:09] <gunndawg> any fixes for screen tearing with Nvidia using 346 drivers? The fix I used in 14.04 completely breaks my system.
[07:10] <hyper_ch> donniezazen: http://images.sjau.ch/img/1a21641c.png
[07:10] <hyper_ch> that should be the settings
[07:11] <hyper_ch> or did I miss anything?
[07:13] <hateball> gunndawg: What sort of tearing do you get?
[07:13] <gunndawg> hateball: screen tearing
[07:13] <gunndawg> had it worked out in 14.04 but the same fix in 15.04 does not work, infact it prevents Plasma from starting
[07:13] <hateball> gunndawg: Well yeah. But is it constant, or is it during fullscreen video or gaming?
[07:14] <gunndawg> consistant
[07:14] <hateball> gunndawg: Have you gone into "desktop effects" and tried changing from automatic to something else?
[07:14] <donniezazen> hyper_ch: my understanding is that you can't set spacing. It is hard coded. So while changing icons size or font of list items could help but won't be enough. I think Oxygen should not be affected which it is, in your case
[07:14] <gunndawg> if I run the screen tearing test on youtube it's obvious as it was in 14.04. I fixed it then ran the same test and it fixed it
[07:14] <gunndawg> hateball: no I have not, shall i?
[07:14] <hateball> gunndawg: Yes. Under advanced
[07:14] <hyper_ch> donniezazen: where to report that the best?
[07:15] <hateball> gunndawg: There's a bug on this, I'll see if I can find it
[07:15] <hateball> gunndawg: Note that it may hurt performance a bit, but you can tick "disable effects for fullscreen" and if you game then they will handle vsync etc themselves. Seems to work for me at least
[07:15] <gunndawg> hateball: I'm in Desktop Effects and I see no advanced menu
[07:15] <hateball> gunndawg: You should have a tab up top
[07:16] <gunndawg> hateball: I'm in 15.04 and I see no tab
[07:16] <donniezazen> hyper_ch: maybe talk to Andrew Lake in this thread https://forum.kde.org/viewtopic.php?f=285&t=123715 or file a bug.
[07:17] <hateball> gunndawg: Hmmm, well I am sitting on 14.04 right now. Search for "opengl" in krunner, maybe it changed places in 15.04 (I run it at home, just cant remember)
[07:17] <hyper_ch> donniezazen: well, I have set to oxygen and it shouldn't use that much space anymore... I still wonder why it does
[07:17] <gunndawg> hateball: I ran 14.04 until tonight so I know what you're saying, but it's not there
[07:18] <hateball> gunndawg: Well it does exist in 15.04, since I had to change it myself :p
[07:18] <gunndawg> hateball: not sure where its at. looking for it
[07:18] <gunndawg> hateball: deff not in desktop effects
[07:20] <gunndawg> hateball: when I search OpenGL it hilights Desktop Effects. But I dont see it. Can I provide a screenshot?
[07:21] <hateball> gunndawg: Sure, upload it to imgur or something. I still dont have access to a 15.04 machine so I can find it tho
[07:21] <gunndawg> will do
[07:22] <gunndawg> hateball: http://i.imgur.com/h2vnGID.jpg
[07:22] <hateball> gunndawg: when you search for desktop effects in krunner, dont you also get a standalone desktop effects?
[07:22] <hateball> not this one that is "integrated" with the other options
[07:23] <gunndawg> what is krunner?
[07:23] <hateball> alt+f2 by default
[07:23] <hateball> aka the only way to find anything ;D
[07:24] <gunndawg> hateball: gotcha. OpenGL settings open
[07:24] <gunndawg> hateball: now what was it you wanted me to do from here?
[07:25] <hateball> gunndawg: right, you should have vsync options that probably are automatic now
[07:26] <gunndawg> hateball: I'm not seeing vsync anywhere
[07:26] <hyper_ch> donniezazen: under what should I file the bug?
[07:26] <hateball> gunndawg: there should be a "prevent tearing" option
[07:27] <gunndawg> hateball: I'm going to give you another screenshot
[07:27] <hateball> gunndawg: do so, I'll grab a 15.04 iso and make a bootable stick during ;p
[07:28] <gunndawg> hateball: http://i.imgur.com/ptJlIL0.jpg
[07:29] <hateball> gunndawg: oh, no that's not it
[07:30] <hateball> that just shows information
[07:30] <gunndawg> hateball: I figured as much
[07:30] <gunndawg> hateball: I know which OpenGL settings your talking about that were available in 14.04, Not finding them in 15.04
[07:31] <hateball> gunndawg: If you're not leaving just yet I'll have 15.04 bootable in a bit and I'll see where it is
[07:31] <gunndawg> I'll be here another few hours
[07:32] <gunndawg> hateball: Infact I'll be here until this gets corrected :(
[07:32] <hyper_ch> donniezazen: made now a bug report
[07:37] <hyper_ch> donniezazen: https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=346533
[07:37] <zen_foo> sigh.. so I did an upgrade today from 14.10 to 15.04 and it's a bit buggy, then I noticed it says I'm on a development branch... how did that happen?
[07:38] <zen_foo> DISTRIB_DESCRIPTION="Ubuntu Vivid Vervet (development branch)"
[07:38] <hyper_ch> zen_foo: it's a bit buggy even on a vanilla install
[07:39] <valorie> zen_foo: what PPAs do you have enabled?
[07:39] <zen_foo> none
[07:40] <valorie> zen_foo: where are you finding that text?
[07:41] <zen_foo> grep DESCRIPTION /etc/lsb-release
[07:41] <valorie> I upgraded to day, and my About System looks fine
[07:41] <valorie> DISTRIB_DESCRIPTION="Ubuntu 15.04"
[07:42] <valorie> zen_foo: have you done updates and upgrades today?
[07:42] <valorie> the description never has the code name after release
[07:42] <valorie> there is no development branch yet
[07:42] <zen_foo> just the upgrade today from 14.10
[07:43] <valorie> try: `sudo apt update && sudo apt full-upgrade`
[07:43] <valorie> I think you missed a couple of the final packages
[07:43] <zen_foo> oy.. that seems ot have found a bunch
[07:44] * zen_foo scratches his head.... so odd
[07:44] <valorie> perhaps you hit a mirror not done updating
[07:45] <zen_foo> that could be... but it might be a good idea for the update script to check that it's trying to install the release version that it prompts for
[07:47] <valorie> you did `do-release-upgrade`?
[07:47] <zen_foo> yes
[07:48] <valorie> I dunno
[07:48] <zen_foo> (shrug) me neither
[07:48] <valorie> I used the beta this time around
[07:48] <zen_foo> looks like it might be sorted now
[07:48] <hateball> gunndawg: it's under "compositing"
[07:48] <hateball> gunndawg: which should show as an option if you search for opengl
[07:49] <gunndawg> hateball: I'll look
[07:49] <zen_foo> I enjoy doing the beta's, just not on my main system that I need to actually do work on :D
[07:49] <gunndawg> hateball: I see it. I'm in that menu now
[07:50] <zen_foo> KDE is so darn purrty now
[07:50] <gunndawg> hateball: "Tearing prevention" is already set to Automatic
[07:51] <hateball> gunndawg: Yes. You don't want that
[07:52] <gunndawg> what do I want
[07:52] <hateball> you can try either of them, I use the "reuse blah blah" with proprietary driver
[07:52] <hateball> you can just switch, apply, test it out
[07:53] <hateball> and tick the box to disable effects for fullscreen
[07:53] <hateball> well, you can try that option on/off... sometimes things misbehave
[07:54] <gunndawg> hateball: oddly enough I changed OpenGL from 2.0 to 3.1 and it fixed it. didnt fuss with any other settings
[07:54] <gunndawg> hateball: left it on automatic and changed to openGL 3.1, fixed
[07:55] <hateball> gunndawg: well then :)
[07:55] <gunndawg> hateball: Thank you so very kindly for ur patience and help :)
[07:55] <hateball> gunndawg: No worries :)
[07:56] <gunndawg> sorry you had to boot up a 15.04 image just for that
[07:56] <hateball> Haha that's fine
[07:56] <gunndawg> but it made a world of difference for me :)
[07:56] <hateball> I'm at work, what else am I supposed to do? Work?
[07:56] <gunndawg> no, dont do that
[07:57] <gunndawg> hateball: The fix I used to correct the tearing in 14.04 completely breaks Plasma
[07:57] <gunndawg> hateball: I installed 15.04 like 5 times tonight
[07:57] <hateball> Heh
[07:57] <hateball> I've never used anything other than the options in plasma to fix tearing
[07:57] <hateball> I'm assuming you tried various xorg.confs or setting __GL_Whatever env options?
[07:58] <gunndawg> hateball: in 14.04 I had to do this https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xorg-server/+bug/1374976
[07:58] <gunndawg> create a Tearhing.sh file that I made executable with that line
[07:58] <gunndawg> do that in plasma and it breaks
[07:59] <gunndawg> hateball: yes the GL setting breaks plama apparently
[07:59] <gunndawg> __GL_YIELD="USLEEP"
[08:02] <rohan> hi. i upgraded from 14.10 to 15.04 today, and it was fine for some time.. but now my keyboard has stopped working at the login screen
[08:02] <rohan> so i can't login at all :( even ctrl-alt-f1 is not working, so i can't switch to a VT
[08:02] <rohan> only the alt-sysrq combos work
[08:02] <rohan> i've tried a few reboots and cold boots, but that didn't help
[08:04] <gunndawg> brb need a reboot
[08:04] <zen_foo> someone correct me if IO'm wrong butisn't Alt-F1 the new AlLT-F7? try ALT-F2 rohan
[08:05] <rohan> zen_foo: nope, no dice: doesn't work
[08:05] <zen_foo> have you unplugged and plugged you keyboard back in after you booted... I thought I heard something about a few people having an issue like that
[08:06] <rohan> zen_foo: it's a laptop
[08:07] <zen_foo> lol... well then that would present some trouble trying to do that
[08:07] <gunndawg> back
[08:07] <rohan> zen_foo: yup :(
[08:08] <gunndawg> hateball: my next goal in setting up 15.04 is getting my login screen fixed
[08:08] <gunndawg> hateball: if you're wanting to dig in some more help I'll fill you in on the details
[08:09] <hateball> gunndawg: Well just state your problem so anyone can try and help :)
[08:09] <gunndawg> sure
[08:09] <gunndawg> When the login screen comes up the password box is dead in the center of the gap between my 2 monitors as though it thinks its one monitor
[08:09] <gunndawg> instead of showing up in 1 monitor
[08:10] <hateball> Ah. This is a clean install using SSDM is it?
[08:10] <gunndawg> hateball: not sure what you mean. It's a clean 15.04 install
[08:10] <hateball> I don't have any dualmonitor setups on 15.04/SSDM so I cant say
[08:10] <hateball> gunndawg: Well the login manager is called SSDM
[08:10] <hateball> as opposed to KDM or LightDM of the past
[08:10] <gunndawg> I've heard the term SSDM more than once tonight. what is SSDM
[08:11] <zen_foo> gunndawg: same thing here, I haven't gotten around to looking into it yet
[08:11] <gunndawg> zen_foo: so you have ur login box split between monitors?
[08:11] <zen_foo> yes
[08:11] <gunndawg> zen_foo: annoying eh?
[08:12] <zen_foo> meh, compared to bugs that crash things, no... but not exactly estheticly pleasing that I can show off my desktop to people and try to convert them
[08:12] <gunndawg> zen_foo: exactly
[08:13] <gunndawg> Not game breaking but enough to bug ya
[08:14] <zen_foo> brb reboot
[08:14] <rohan> hateball: you mean SDDM
[08:14] <rohan> not SSDM
[08:15] <hateball> rohan: I do
[08:15] <rohan> which is being a PITA and not accepting my text input any more :(
[08:15] <gunndawg> What is SDDM?
[08:18] <zen_foo> hah, compositing crash bug still there :(
[08:20] <gunndawg> I sure do miss my Ghost Deco theme.
[08:21] <lordievader> gunndawg: SDDM is a display manager, like lightdm or gdm.
[08:21] <lordievader> Good morning by the by.
[08:21] <gunndawg> lordievader: hello, and thank you
[08:21] <gunndawg> by the way* ;)\
[08:21] <gunndawg> way*
[08:21] <zen_foo> gunndawg: might be an issue with the login theme https://github.com/sddm/sddm/issues/265
[08:22] <gunndawg> zen_foo: an issue with the "DEFAULT" login theme?
[08:22] <zen_foo> yes... trying to find a different theme to try
[08:22] <gunndawg> zen_foo: please update me with your results
[08:25] <gunndawg> hateball: all of a sudden having screen tearing again
[08:27] <yossarianuk> gunndawg: my login is split between 2 monitors alos (nvidia)
[08:27] <gunndawg> hateball: just applied your solution and i'm good again, heh
[08:27] <gunndawg> yossarianuk: aye, so Im not alone in that issue
[08:28] <yossarianuk> gunndawg: nope - do you have Nvidia ?
[08:28] <gunndawg> yossarianuk: yes, with the 346 drivers
[08:28] <uberdub> the update every other day or so are getting skightly annoying
[08:28] <yossarianuk> (p.s kde 5.3 seems to solve that - I installed the beta PPA)
[08:29] <yossarianuk> --> same here (driver version)
[08:32] <zen_foo> brb
[08:34] <zen_foo> gunndawg: yup that's the issue
[08:35] <zen_foo> apt-cache search sddm-theme
[08:35] <zen_foo> ^^install one or more of those other ones and the login appears fine
[08:36] <zen_foo> so install then go to system settings -> Starup and Shutdown -> Loing Screen (SDDM)
[08:36] <zen_foo> and change it to something other than the breeze one
[08:36] <thor_> hi
[08:37] <gunndawg> zen_foo: hang on let me look
[08:38] <thor_> Has anybody idea why in my 14.13 install Muon won't show the upgrade to 15.04 option?
[08:38] <thor_> At home with my (I think) 14.10 everything worked easy enough
[08:38] <gunndawg> zen_foo: which one did you install? which one looks good?
[08:38] <zen_foo> maldives and maui look good
[08:39] <lordievader> thor_: 14.13?
[08:39] <gunndawg> zen_foo: so how do I install them? what's the command
[08:39] <zen_foo> Circles is kinda lame and elarun is meh
[08:39] <Zverenhoff> Hello everybody.
[08:39] <zen_foo> sudo apt-get install sddm-theme-maldives sddm-theme-maui
[08:40] <Zverenhoff> I have one question. It seems like in Kubuntu 15.04 there is no kwin oxygen style.
[08:40] <thor_> Yep, at least that's the version that's shown when I click "About KDE" in Kate
[08:40] <Zverenhoff> Is it a bug or should it be so?
[08:40] <lordievader> thor_: Ah, what does 'lsb_release -a' say?
[08:40] <gunndawg> alright gonna test
[08:41] <lordievader> Zverenhoff: Plasma5 uses the breeze theme by default.
[08:41] <lordievader> I thought there was some Oxygen theme available for Plasma5 though.
[08:41] <thor_> lordievader: No LSB modules are available.
[08:41] <Zverenhoff> There is Oxygen theme for qt5,qt4,plasma itself, but not for KWin
[08:41] <thor_> Distributor ID: Ubuntu Description: Ubuntu 14.04.2 LTS Release: 14.04 Codename: trusty
[08:42] <thor_> Ah sorry, stupid. It's KDE version 14.13.
[08:42] <thor_> Still, at home the upgrade came automatically. At work nothing shows
[08:42] <lordievader> thor_: You need to set the upgrade settings to normal then upgrade to 14.10 and then to 15.04. Trusty looks for LTS releases by default.
[08:43] <zen_foo> yes, you can't jump releases, so you have to upgrade to 14.10 first then upgrade again to get 15.04
[08:43] <gunndawg> that worked
[08:43] <gunndawg> but still have a problem
[08:43] <zen_foo> don't we all :D
[08:43] <thor_> Where can I set the upgrade settings?
[08:44] <gunndawg> zen_foo: the login screen shows up on my 2nd monitor instead of the primary
[08:44] <lordievader> thor_: Somewhere in Muon, I thing.
[08:44] <zen_foo> nvidia?
[08:44] <thor_> Looked and didn't find. Will Google and see.
[08:44] <gunndawg> zen_foo: yes, like you, 346 drivers
[08:44] <lordievader> thor_: Or editing /etc/update-manager/release-upgrades
[08:45] <zen_foo> what I did was set the primary in both the nvidia settings panel and in the kde system settings
[08:46] <gunndawg> zen_foo: I'll try
[08:46] <thor_> lordievader: Thanks a lot, this seems to work. Muon show new release now.
[08:47] <gunndawg> zen_foo: seems that's already the case
[08:47] <zen_foo> gunndawg: do you have the system settings set to say "this one is left of (or right of) the other"?
[08:48] <zen_foo> my primary is on the right so I had to do that
[08:48] <bart___> hi guys, just upgraded to 15.04.... seems good, but where have the wacom settings gone to?
[08:48] <gunndawg> zen_foo: yes
[08:49] <zen_foo> hmmm
[08:51] <gunndawg> zen_foo: http://i.imgur.com/FE8myuw.png
[08:52] <gunndawg> zen_foo: not sure how much info that provides
[08:55] <lordievader> gunndawg: Does the Nvidia driver still write an xorg.conf?
[08:56] <zen_foo> gunndawg: that looks right.. hrm
[08:57] <gunndawg> lordievader: I believe so. How can I check
[08:58] <lordievader> ls /etc/X11
[08:58] <lordievader> Was just wondering, not helping ;)
[08:59] <gunndawg> alright
[08:59] <gunndawg> I have an xorg.conf in /x11
[09:00] <lordievader> Pff.. nVidia...
[09:01] <gunndawg> an $800 video card that wont cook me breakfast I was fine with, but I hoped it would display things on the corrector monitor
[09:01] * lordievader mumbles something about nVidia and Nouveau
[09:02] <zen_foo> well, if you overclock it and play the right kinda game you could probably cook an egg
[09:03] <lordievader> http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=NVIDIA-Unfriendly-OSS-Hardware
[09:03] <gunndawg> I tried "sudo please fucking put login screen on the left screen"
[09:04] <gunndawg> didnt work
[09:04] <s_20> http://www.phys.ncku.edu.tw/~htsu/humor/fry_egg.html - it never gets old
[09:05] <lordievader> gunndawg: Please watch your language.
[09:05] <gunndawg> lordievader: I appologize
[09:07] <gunndawg> so changing the login screen theme corrected the centering, but what can correct the correct display?
[09:07] <zen_foo> you know what it might be...
[09:08] <zen_foo> it might be that that new theme has that side hardcoded
[09:09] <lordievader> gunndawg: I wrote part of an xorg.conf to setup my three displays correctly for lightdm.
[09:09] <gunndawg> I cant imagine they'd hard code in "2nd display login"
[09:24] <gunndawg> hateball: screen tearing is back :(
[09:24] <hateball> gunndawg: after reboots?
[09:25] <gunndawg> hateball: yes
[09:25] <hateball> go into options and re-apply
[09:25] <hateball> there's a bug for it... somewhere
[09:25] <gunndawg> hateball: is this something I'll have to do every restart?
[09:25] <hateball> so you can make a script that forces it on session start
[09:25] <hateball> gunndawg: iirc it works for me, but I know there is a bug for it
[09:27] <gunndawg> hateball: weird thing is that it was still on the setting I put it at, changed it do a differnt one and it works
[09:27] <hateball> Yes
[09:28] <soee> gunndawg: screen tearing with nvidia driver >
[09:28] <gunndawg> so I'll have to boot up (I dont shut down often), and change it to a diff setting, and be good
[09:28] <soee> ?
[09:28] <gunndawg> soee: yes
[09:28] <soee> gunndawg: you wont get rid of it completely :/
[09:29] <hateball> gunndawg: yeah, but there's a cli way to set it so you can automate it. I just dont recall the bug number etc
[09:29] <hateball> if I remember I'll check it when I get back home in a bunch of hours
[09:29] <gunndawg> in 14.04 it was easy
[09:29] <gunndawg> new territory I guess
[09:30] <soee> gunndawg: first in System Settings -> Dispay And MOntor -> Compositor: Tearing Prevention ('vsync') set "Full Screen Repaints"
[09:31] <gunndawg> soee: I just did that. Everything is GOOD now. when I restart it might change
[09:31] <soee> gunndawg: i have also executable file called /etc/profile.d/tearing.sh
[09:31] <soee> with a line: export __GL_YIELD="USLEEP"
[09:31] <hateball> ;|
[09:32] <soee> gunndawg: do ypu play games ?
[09:32] <gunndawg> soee: I tried that tearing.sh fix and it broke my Plasma entirely. After I logged in I had black screen
[09:32] <soee> gunndawg: it shouldn't :)
[09:33] <gunndawg> soee: It did, I reintalled and tried it again, it broke, so I reinstalled and didnt do it, now I boot fine
[09:33] <gunndawg> dont want to risk it again, it broke my Plasma
[09:33] <soee> gunndawg: anyway if you plan to play some games, be sure to check in this syste settings also: Suspend compositor for fullscreen windows
[09:34] <gunndawg> soee: and I was only doing that to fix the tearing, the tearing is fixed now. I am dealing with a new issue.
[09:34] <soee> otherwise you will expriance something like tearing + low fps feelig + ^$^%@
[09:34] <gunndawg> soee: This is my gaming rig.
[09:44] <yruss_> Hi. Where can i adjust loading sequence after i log in? My problem - kubuntu is connecting WiFi and doing 1000 stupid things before actucally it loads plasma-desktop which is really annoying.
[09:45] <soee> yruss_: like brings back apps from previous session befor panel is loaded etc ?
[09:46] <Walex> yruss_: not so easy, there are several loading sequences potentially
[09:46] <yruss_> soee: No it starts an empty one - but there are some apps that loading before desktop
[09:47] <Walex> yruss_: the two main loading sequences are in your '~/.xsession' scripts, in the global and per-user 'autostart' directories, and in your session manager saved state.
[09:50] <yruss_> Walex: i can see only .xsession-errors fie, autostart is empty
[10:01] <Walex> yruss_: there are both global and per user 'xsession' and 'autostart', and 'autostart' is also both KDE and XDG variants. Plus again the session manager list
[10:21] <memphisto> Hello
[10:23] <memphisto> I need help with my 3Gmodem - Bus 003 Device 004: ID 19d2:0017 ZTE WCDMA Technologies MSM
[10:23] <hateball> memphisto: In what way do you need help?
[10:23] <memphisto> although i see it with lsub and in syslog as qmi_wwan 3-2:1.3: cdc-wdm1: USB WDM device
[10:24] <memphisto> kde network manager cant see it
[10:24] <memphisto> when i try to add new broadband device, it doesn't list it
[10:24] <memphisto> hi hateball
[10:24] <memphisto> thanks for answering
[10:26] <memphisto> when you go to Connnection editor >>Add>> Mobile Broadband connection
[10:26] <memphisto> it asks you to choose your device
[10:26] <hateball> memphisto: Just trying to some details for others to help, I know nothing of such dongles tho
[10:27] <memphisto> but instead of my ZTE modem it states Any GSM device and Any CMDA device
[10:27] <memphisto> ok. thanks anyway
[10:29] <hyper_ch> Is it just me or is also the window properties detection fooled in 5.3? There seems to be a 56px offset
[10:34] <BluesKaj> Hiyas all
[10:37] <hyper_ch> BluesKaj: why can I report plasma bugs?
[10:40] <BluesKaj> hyper_ch, click on dolphin help, report bugs then choose the app in the dropdown
[10:41] <hyper_ch> BluesKaj: then I get directed to the bugs site and get told I can't make a bug report for plasma
[10:42] <hyper_ch> https://bugs.kde.org/enter_bug.cgi?format=guided&product=plasma&component=desktop&version=unknown --> Sorry, either the product plasma does not exist or you aren't authorized to enter a bug into it.
[10:42] <BluesKaj> hyper_ch, then report it in #kubuntu-devel
[10:44] * hyper_ch heard that normal users get eaten in -devel channels
[10:44] <BluesKaj> not this one
[10:45] <hyper_ch> :)
[10:45] <BluesKaj> you must have patience tho
[10:46] <hyper_ch> well, seems somebody isn't on lunch break in there
[10:48] <yossarianuk> ok im confused ......
[10:48] <yossarianuk> just read - https://plus.google.com/u/0/+WillCooke/posts/AxfoU3N1Ezo
[10:48] <yossarianuk> does this mean Ubuntu 15.10 is abandoning DEB based ?
[10:50] <yossarianuk> and if it is how will this effect kubuntu?
[10:51] <yossarianuk> or am I completely misunderstanding everything?
[10:55] <memphisto> regarding the issue with ZTE GSP modem --- i've isntalled following usb-modeswitch modemmanager kppp and now it works.
[10:55] <memphisto> Best Regards
[10:58] <BluesKaj> yossarianuk, the blogger mistates the issue, don't think he meant that deb was going away, just replaced by a new version, that's what I got from it
[10:59] <yossarianuk> ok - thanks
[11:07] <yossarianuk> DEB based in one of the really good plus points - although ill be interested to see snappy...
[11:14] <mouwze> can kde 5 desktop be installed on kubuntu 14.04
[11:15] <soee> mouwze: no
[11:15] <mouwze> thank you
[11:17] <BluesKaj> mouwze, you can install plsama 5/KF5 on kubuntu 14.10, however.
[11:18] <BluesKaj> err plasma
[11:20] <soee> BluesKaj: yes but since 14.10 is not LTS its better to jump to 15.04 i think
[11:20] <soee> than you can be sure Plasma 5.3 will work just fine :)
[11:25] <BluesKaj> soee, is 5.3 default on 15.04? ...it worked ok on my upgrade from 14.10 , but the ppa didn't work on this clean install at all...had to dump my /home data because some conf files were configured wrong
[11:26] <BluesKaj> in oerder to re-install 15.04 official release image'
[11:26] <BluesKaj> X was totally mucked up
[11:27] <soee> BluesKaj: it is not default
[11:27] <BluesKaj> ok soee, thanks
[11:27] <soee> i use unfnished 5.3 final packages and tey work pretty good
[11:28] <BluesKaj> yeah i have it on the other HDD...works ok
[11:28] <BluesKaj> but not htis one ...it was weird
[11:29] <BluesKaj> same pc .. 2 different HDDS , 2 different results
[11:29] <BluesKaj> same ppa
[11:31] <BluesKaj> I'm waiting for the 15.10 chainloader on this install ..I'll start testing on this one
[11:36] <hyper_ch> BluesKaj: 15.10 chainloader?
[11:49] <BluesKaj> hyper_ch, it's a preliminary repos for 15.10 ..it usually doesn't contain a lot of new packages, just a few to get the testing started afaik
[11:49] <Tsterxer> Ho
[11:49] <Tsterxer> Hi people
[11:49] <hyper_ch> BluesKaj: I see
[11:49] <Tsterxer> Is network mirror recommend?
[11:50] <Riddell> hyper_ch: could you report a bug on the bug dialog issue? I can work on a fix, product is frameworks-kxmlgui
[11:50] <hyper_ch> Riddell: hmmm, I can I think :)
[11:51] <hyper_ch> but what package would that be
[11:52] <BluesKaj> Tsterxer, which mirror ?
[11:52] <Tsterxer> It's not related to Kubuntu but i struggle install ubuntu server for long time
[11:54] <BluesKaj> Tsterxer, you can ask for help with your issue in #ubuntu-server
[11:55] <Riddell> hyper_ch: frameworks-kxmlgui
[11:57] <hyper_ch> Riddell: https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=346559
[11:58] <Riddell> lovely thanks hyper_ch
[11:58] <hyper_ch> for some reasons I don't get emails anymore for my bug reports
[11:58] <Tsterxer> Not related but anyone know C programming/ Reverse engineering?
[11:59] <Tsterxer> relevance*
[11:59] <hyper_ch> yes
[12:00] <Tsterxer> I feel like I don't know what I want to learn or it's because stress of school.
[12:00] <Tsterxer> But I want to know much.
[12:00] <Tsterxer> When do you figured out what you want to learn>
[12:00] <hyper_ch> no idea
[12:01] <BluesKaj> Tsterxer, depends what you find interesting
[12:02] <hyper_ch> usually you figure out what you want to learn at the time you figure it out
[12:02] <Tsterxer> Is it right to learn from books?
[12:04] <Tsterxer_> I know it's not related but why it doesn't work in ubuntu: https://www.raspberrypi.org/documentation/remote-access/ssh/
[12:04] <Tsterxer_> enable ssh: not a shell builtin...
[12:04] <hyper_ch> Tsterxer_: sudo apt-get install openssh-server
[12:05] <Tsterxer_> I did that
[12:05] <hyper_ch> then it works
[12:05] <Tsterxer_> It mean it running?
[12:06] <Tsterxer_> I can't connect to it
[12:07] <hyper_ch> Tsterxer_: ps aux | grep sshd
[12:07] <Tsterxer_> I wrote it
[12:07] <Tsterxer_> it bold /usr/sbin/sshd - D and second with auto sshd
[12:08] <hyper_ch> ssh localhost
[12:08] <Tsterxer_> does it mean i connect to localhost?
[12:09] <Tsterxer_> I have ubuntu 64 bit server in VMware Player
[12:09] <hyper_ch> well, it will try to connect to the ssh server on your machine
[12:09] <Tsterxer_> From my machine I tried 127.0.0.1
[12:09] <hyper_ch> I guess you have some routing/port forwarding issues
[12:09] <hyper_ch> no, from the server
[12:09] <hyper_ch> do ssh localhost
[12:09] <Tsterxer_> It's NAT. Do I need to change it?
[12:10] <hyper_ch> I prefer bridged
[12:10] <hyper_ch> otherwise you'd need to setup portforwading / routing
[12:10] <Tsterxer_> Replicate physical network connection state?
[12:10] <hyper_ch> no idea, I don't use vmware
[12:10] <Tsterxer_> cool
[12:15] <Tsterxer_> it 0% connecting to archieve.ubuntu.org
[12:16] <hyper_ch> s/ie/i/
[12:16] <Tsterxer_> bridged changed to NAT
[12:17] <Tsterxer_> lmao
[12:17] <Tsterxer_> nvm.. Still not work
[12:20] <Tsterxer_> in raspberry pi it was easier ssh
[12:22] <Tsterxer_> Please help
[12:25] <hyper_ch> bridge should work
[12:25] <hyper_ch> of course you need to restart netowring in the guest
[12:25] <hyper_ch> or reboot it
[12:25] <hyper_ch> and your router needs to provide dhcp
[12:25] <hyper_ch> otherwise you need to manually configure the network in the guest
[12:26] <hyper_ch> and I just use virtualbox
[12:26] <hyper_ch> looking forward for v5 which gets updated 3d drivers and usb 3.0 support
[12:26] <Tsterxer_> Thansk i will check it after gcc will be installed
[12:34] <Riddell> hyper_ch: fixed! but it's a funny feature that, it won't update until there's a new kf5 release
[12:52] <pawel_> hi, I have problem with nvidia blob
[12:53] <pawel_> whenever I install it, I have black screen on boot
[12:53] <Tsterxer_> maybe driver?
[12:53] <Tsterxer_> I can't connect to my ssh
[12:53] <pawel_> tried 346 an 349 from xorg edgers
[12:54] <pawel_> in 14.10 some version has worked, with some others I had similar problem
[12:55] <pawel_> maybe there's something wrong with an installer?
[12:55] <Tsterxer_> What does it mean you have black screen?
[12:55] <Tsterxer_> You can't see anything from boot to till you shut up?
[12:55] <Tsterxer_> Is it dual boot?
[12:55] <pawel_> I see anything, but some line about systemd in the end
[12:56] <pawel_> yes, but it boots with nouveau
[12:56] <Tsterxer_> which laptop?
[12:56] <pawel_> however, when I use recovery mode and select resume
[12:56] <pawel_> it works
[12:56] <pawel_> it's not laptop, but PC
[12:57] <pawel_> maybe I need to black list something?
[12:57] <hateball> If you use the GUI installer it should do that for you
[12:58] <pawel_> yes, I used the GUI
[12:58] <pawel_> but maybe I should check?
[13:01] <Tsterxer_> I struggle install ubuntu server
[13:01] <Tsterxer_> Try and don't give up
[13:01] <BluesKaj> which gpu pawel_ ? ther 346 is for higer end models and even those are a bit unstable withthat driver, the 340 should be sufficient.
[13:01] <pawel_> 660 TI
[13:03] <Tsterxer__> look at this: pawel_
[13:03] <Tsterxer__> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2070097
[13:03] <Tsterxer__> it might help...
[13:03] <Tsterxer__> Look on his last comment
[13:05] <pawel_> thanks, I'll take a look
[13:06] <Tsterxer__> YES WORKED
[13:06] <Tsterxer__> thanks who offer bridged!!
[13:06] <Tsterxer__> access denied ;_;
[13:07] <Tsterxer__> it's the pass. Why it's denied..
[13:09] <Tsterxer__> YES ROOT
[13:09] <pawel_> I'll give it a try
[13:09] <pawel_> thanks! going to restart
[13:09] <Tsterxer__> ^_^
[13:09] <Tsterxer__> I feel sad people traced.
[13:14] <Tsterxer__> For C programmers: What do you programming; desktop/app/ any.. I just want to know
[13:27] <hyper_ch> Riddell: two commits already?
[13:30] <Riddell> hyper_ch: one for kdelibs4 and one for kf5
[13:32] <hyper_ch> Riddell: :)
[13:57] <aliman> guys i see there a new version of kubuntu is available. if i upgrade i lose anything? cuz my entire hdd is only 1 part
[13:58] <BluesKaj> aliman, you can upgrade over the internet
[13:59] <BluesKaj> and not lose any data
[13:59] <aliman> i opend software updater and i see there upgrade button
[14:00] <BluesKaj> aliman, but first you must update and upgrade and dist-upgrade your existing OS which is 14.10 I assume
[14:00] <aliman> BluesKaj, not sure i understand what you mean
[14:01] <BluesKaj> aliman, which kubuntu version are you using?
[14:01] <aliman> 14.10
[14:02] <murthy> Please upgrade from terminal and avoid the gui method
[14:02] <aliman> sudo apt-get upgrade?
[14:03] <murthy> Wait i will get the command
[14:03] <BluesKaj> aliman, open a terminal and first do: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade, then sudo do-release-upgrade to upgrade to 15.04
[14:03] <murthy> There is an issue that causes the gui setup process to hang in the middle of the upgrade process
[14:04] <BluesKaj> not usingthe gui
[14:04] <murthy> BluesKaj: that command wont use the gui right?
[14:04] <BluesKaj> nope it won't
[14:06] <murthy> BluesKaj: dpkg is asking for permission to replace an rc file with the one from maintainers version, but gui doesnt ask for the input from the user and hence dpkg waits infinitly
[14:06] <murthy> ^thats the cause of the hang during upgrade
[14:06] <aliman> when i did sudo do-release-upgrade i got some errors
[14:06] <aliman> ...
[14:07] <BluesKaj> murthy, then just use the enter key
[14:07] <aliman> Err http://archive.canonical.com vivid/partner Translation-en
[14:07] <aliman>
[14:07] <aliman> Get:12 http://security.ubuntu.com vivid-security/main Sources [2.947 B]
[14:07] <aliman> Err http://archive.canonical.com vivid/partner Translation-en
[14:07] <aliman> Err http://extras.ubuntu.com utopic/main Translation-en_US
[14:07] <aliman> and more like this
[14:08] <murthy> BluesKaj: no I think the gui is responding to the inputs and the process seems to be hung
[14:09] <murthy> aliman: did you run sudo apt-get update ?
[14:09] <aliman> yes
[14:10] <BluesKaj> aliman, do you have any ppas ?
[14:10] <aliman> ppas?
[14:11] <BluesKaj> !ppa
[14:11] <aliman> not sure i have that
[14:12] <BluesKaj> aliman, look in /etc/apt/sources.list.d to see if there's anything in that file
[14:13] <aliman> nothng there
[14:13] <BluesKaj> ok
[14:16] <hyper_ch> my PPAs are all in my sources.list
[14:16] <freya> cool clinet
[14:16] <Packjam> client
[14:16] <BluesKaj> hyper_ch, that's because you added them manually
[14:17] <Packjam> who knows a quakenet server
[14:18] <hyper_ch> BluesKaj: well, I used my generator ;)
[14:19] <BluesKaj> aliman, open /etc/apt/sources.list and copy and paste it here , http://pastebin.com/
[14:19] <murthy> aliman: you could try disabling the ubuntu extras and partners sources in the software sources and see if that solves the issue
[14:20] <aliman> which display manager to use lightdm or sddm
[14:20] <BluesKaj> Packjam, https://www.quakenet.org/servers
[14:20] <BluesKaj> aliman, sddm for kubuntu
[14:20] <Tsterxer__> Hi!!
[14:21] <BluesKaj> guess installation didn't stall then , aliman
[14:23] <aliman> is it possible to create a windows bootable usb using kubuntu?
[14:23] <Tsterxer__> In what way?
[14:25] <murthy> aliman: why do you want to do that?
[14:25] <BluesKaj> aliman, dunno for sure , but you could try dd , it works for most bootable images
[14:25] <aliman> murthy, for a friend. he needs a bootable usb
[14:26] <Tsterxer__> Can I ask about gdb stuff not related but no answer in gdb?
[14:26] <badflife> Hi. i want to install the neuwest kubuntu version. but i want to keep the windows bootloader. i dont want to install grub. how can i do this . thanks
[14:26] <MoonUnit`> does ubuntu still support wubi?
[14:27] <Tsterxer__> this is kubuntu
[14:27] <BluesKaj> badflife, you can't , you need to install grab
[14:27] <BluesKaj> grub will find windows and place it in the bootloader
[14:28] <murthy> aliman: Creating an usb for windows from linux is very hard. Particularly windows needs to load usb specific drivers to be before booting the install
[14:28] <BluesKaj> if that's what you're worried about
[14:28] <badflife> i once couldnt insatll a windows update because of grub. thats why i am asking
[14:28] <jcjordyn120> hello people
[14:28] <Tsterxer__> hi
[14:29] <BluesKaj> badflife, grub won't prevent windows update
[14:29] <MoonUnit`> i have done by adding linux boot via easybcd but's it's a pain to get it right you have to be ready for kernel updates.
[14:29] <G__81> is it possible to install kde plasma 5.x in Kubuntu 14.04 ?
[14:29] <badflife> it did prevent an update. i asked in a forum. then i removed grub. and the windwos update was installed successfully
[14:29] <aliman> as i said before i have only 1 part on my hdd and i have many movies in there that i dont wnt to lose. if i reinstall kubuntu 15.04 from usb can i keep my files but wipe all the old kubuntu files?
[14:29] <murthy> Windows aware of grub's presence? that is strange
[14:30] <G__81> or should i only install the 15.04 version?
[14:30] <BluesKaj> windows update is a terrible apllicxationa nd windows reposn are to blame for most update problems ...the trick is not to update 60 updates atone shot
[14:30] <badflife> it was only one update that couldnt be updated
[14:30] <yossarianuk> The trick is to never ever touch Windows #easy life
[14:31] <MoonUnit`> G__81: they did have plasma 5 ppa for 14.10 but it was unsupported, best to go for 15.04.
[14:31] <murthy> G__81: I would recommend 15.04, but you should checkout the live cd before installing
[14:31] <BluesKaj> murthy, no grub is aware of windows
[14:31] <badflife> i have a ps4 now so i will slowly get rid of windows now . but not now yet
[14:32] <murthy> G__81: If you are going to upgrade from 14.10, do it via terminal
[14:32] <hyper_ch> BluesKaj: I still wonder, why can't windows do all updates in one run and doesn't require hundreds of reboots inbetween?
[14:32] <murthy> BluesKaj: ya
[14:32] <badflife> haha. well that is a secret microsoft wont reveal
[14:32] <hyper_ch> aliman: always have backups
[14:33] <BluesKaj> hyper_ch, it can be doen the windows cmd, but titakews a bit od fooling with the DLLs to get the cmd to work with windows updates
[14:33] <murthy> G__81: There is a possiblity that your upgrade process may hang in the middle when updating using the gui
[14:34] <hyper_ch> aliman: since you only have one partition you could theoretically install from usb without losing the data.... you'd need to select manual partitioning and then chose to not format the partition..... however it's risky, so make backup first and I wouldn't recommend that way
[14:34] <murthy> G__81: So if you are upgrading, I would recommend you to upgrade via terminal
[14:34] <aliman> thx
[14:35] <BluesKaj> murthy, i didn't have any problems yesterday with the ubiquity installer at all , all went smoothly
[14:35] <hyper_ch> aliman: not sure how many movies or stuff you have
[14:35] <murthy> BluesKaj: not about the fresh installer, Its the upgrader gui
[14:35] <hyper_ch> external usb 3.0 drives aren't that expensive naymore..... hook it up, backup data at about 80-100MB/s
[14:36] <BluesKaj> murthy, oh forget that thing , it's always been buggy
[14:36] <hyper_ch> and then you can try it or wipe the installation and install a complete fresh system
[14:37] <JesseDhammu> hay
[14:37] <JesseDhammu> i just crashed my Kmail
[14:37] <JesseDhammu> how do i get it working
[14:37] <JesseDhammu> i updated from 14.10 to 15.04
[14:37] <hyper_ch> kmail or kontact?
[14:38] <JesseDhammu> both
[14:38] <yossarianuk> hyper_ch: Bad design is the cause.
[14:38] <hyper_ch> yossarianuk: ?
[14:38] <yossarianuk> > I still wonder, why can't windows do all updates in one run and doesn't require hundreds of reboots inbetween?
[14:38] <JesseDhammu> Akonadi Server Self-Test Report
[14:39] <JesseDhammu> [14:39] <JesseDhammu> Test 1: SUCCESS
[14:39] <JesseDhammu> --------
[14:39] <JesseDhammu> Database driver found.
[14:39] <hyper_ch> yossarianuk: ah :)
[14:39] <JesseDhammu> Details: The QtSQL driver 'QMYSQL' is required by your current Akonadi server configuration and was found on your system.
[14:39] <unopaste> JesseDhammu you have been muted for 60 seconds as it looks like you are pasting lots of lines into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com and paste just the URL of your data here when you are unmuted
[14:39] <BluesKaj> hyper_ch, since when can yiou upgrade to a single partition without formatting ?
[14:39] <yossarianuk> I don't understand why it installs update when you shutdown
[14:39] <BluesKaj> from usb
[14:39] <hyper_ch> BluesKaj: if you select manual partitioning you can set format to no
[14:39] <yossarianuk> or randomly in the middle of the working day...
[14:39] <hyper_ch> (or was that only in alternate/mini?)
[14:40] <BluesKaj> . it will over write / so you still lose all the data
[14:40] <JesseDhammu> 2015-04-24 20:08:36 1759 [Note] InnoDB: Highest supported file format is Barracuda.
[14:40] <JesseDhammu> 2015-04-24 20:08:36 1759 [Note] InnoDB: The log sequence numbers 1797281 and 1797281 in ibdata files do not match the log sequence number 3906313 in the ib_logfiles!
[14:40] <JesseDhammu> 2015-04-24 20:08:36 1759 [Note] InnoDB: Database was not shutdown normally!
[14:40] <JesseDhammu> 2015-04-24 20:08:36 1759 [Note] InnoDB: Starting crash recovery.
[14:40] <JesseDhammu> 2015-04-24 20:08:36 1759 [Note] InnoDB: Reading tablespace information from the .ibd files...
[14:40] <JesseDhammu> 2015-04-24 20:08:36 1759 [Note] InnoDB: Restoring possible half-written data pages
[14:40] <unopaste> JesseDhammu you have been muted for 60 seconds as it looks like you are pasting lots of lines into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com and paste just the URL of your data here when you are unmuted
[14:40] <hyper_ch> BluesKaj: well, what will it overwrite?
[14:40] <BluesKaj> hyper_ch, the / partition
[14:41] <hyper_ch> if I have a / partition and tell the installer to use the / partition and not format it
[14:41] <JesseDhammu> Details: The default configuration for the MySQL server was found and is readable at <a href='/etc/akonadi/mysql-global.conf'>/etc/akonadi/mysql-global.conf</a>.
[14:41] <JesseDhammu> File content of '/etc/akonadi/mysql-global.conf':
[14:41] <JesseDhammu> #
[14:41] <JesseDhammu> # Global Akonadi MySQL server settings,
[14:41] <murthy> JesseDhammu: wait
[14:41] <JesseDhammu> # These settings can be adjusted using $HOME/.config/akonadi/mysql-local.conf
[14:41] <JesseDhammu> #
[14:41] <unopaste> JesseDhammu you have been muted for 60 seconds as it looks like you are pasting lots of lines into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com and paste just the URL of your data here when you are unmuted
[14:41] <hyper_ch> the data should still be intact there... so when I have some /home/user/Video/Movie.mkv file that should still be there afterwards... or am I mistaken?
[14:41] <murthy> JesseDhammu: use paste.kde.org to give lengthy info
[14:42] <JesseDhammu> # Size of each log file in a log group (default:5M) larger means less I/O but more time for recovery.
[14:42] <JesseDhammu> innodb_log_file_size=64M
[14:42] <JesseDhammu> # # error log file name, relative to datadir (default:hostname.err)
[14:42] <JesseDhammu> log_error=mysql.err
[14:42] <JesseDhammu> # print warnings and connection errors (default:1)
[14:42] <BluesKaj> hyper_ch, ubiquity will still overwrite the data on / whether you format it or not
[14:42] <JesseDhammu> log_warnings=2
[14:42] <unopaste> JesseDhammu you have been muted for 60 seconds as it looks like you are pasting lots of lines into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com and paste just the URL of your data here when you are unmuted
[14:42] <hyper_ch> BluesKaj: and when you use alternate / mini installer?
[14:43] <JesseDhammu> #
[14:43] <JesseDhammu> [mysqld]
[14:43] <JesseDhammu> # strict query parsing/interpretation
[14:43] <JesseDhammu> # TODO: make Akonadi work with those settings enabled
[14:43] <JesseDhammu> # sql_mode=strict_trans_tables,strict_all_tables,strict_error_for_division_by_zero,no_auto_create_user,no_auto_value_on_zero,no_engine_substitution,no_zero_date,no_zero_in_date,only_full_group_by,pipes_as_concat
[14:43] <JesseDhammu> # sql_mode=strict_trans_tables
[14:43] <unopaste> JesseDhammu you have been muted for 60 seconds as it looks like you are pasting lots of lines into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com and paste just the URL of your data here when you are unmuted
[14:43] <BluesKaj> only if you hava a separate /home partition that isn't formatted can save your data
[14:43] <G__81> Sorry i got disconnected. Is there a way to install KDE Plasma 5.3 in Kubuntu 14.04 ?
[14:44] <hyper_ch> BluesKaj: so what is the format option then good for..... hmmm....
[14:44] <G__81> actually Plasma 5.x
[14:44] <JesseDhammu> lower_case_table_names=1
[14:44] <JesseDhammu> # Maximum size of one packet or any generated/intermediate string. (default:1M)
[14:44] <G__81> or is 15.04 the only solution ?
[14:44] <JesseDhammu> max_allowed_packet=32M
[14:44] <JesseDhammu> # Maximum simultaneous connections allowed (default:100)
[14:44] <JesseDhammu> max_connections=256
[14:44] <JesseDhammu> # The two options below make no sense with prepared statements and/or transactions
[14:44] <unopaste> JesseDhammu you have been muted for 60 seconds as it looks like you are pasting lots of lines into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com and paste just the URL of your data here when you are unmuted
[14:45] <BluesKaj> hyper_ch, for formatting / , otherwise you will keep getting prompted that / has data on it and needs to be formatted
[14:45] <JesseDhammu> Details: No resource agents have been found, Akonadi is not usable without at least one. This usually means that no resource agents are installed or that there is a setup problem. The following paths have been searched: '/usr/share/akonadi/agents'. The XDG_DATA_DIRS environment variable is set to '/usr/share/plasma:/usr/local/share/:/usr/share/'; make sure this includes all paths where Akonadi agents are installed.
[14:45] <hyper_ch> BluesKaj: I'll test it in a vm
[14:45] <JesseDhammu> Directory listing of '/usr/share/akonadi/agents':
[14:45] <JesseDhammu> akonadibalooindexingagent.desktop
[14:45] <JesseDhammu> akonadinepomukfeederagent.desktop
[14:45] <hyper_ch> well, time to go home now
[14:45] <JesseDhammu> akonotesresource.desktop
[14:46] <JesseDhammu> archivemailagent.desktop
[14:46] <unopaste> JesseDhammu you have been muted for 60 seconds as it looks like you are pasting lots of lines into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com and paste just the URL of your data here when you are unmuted
[14:46] <hyper_ch> bbl
[14:46] <G__81> Can some one let me know please?
[14:46] <murthy> G__81: http://www.kubuntu.org/news/plasma-5.2
[14:47] <JesseDhammu> Details: The Akonadi server reported errors during its current startup. The log can be found in <a href='/home/jesse/.local/share/akonadi/akonadiserver.error'>/home/jesse/.local/share/akonadi/akonadiserver.error</a>.
[14:47] <JesseDhammu> File content of '/home/jesse/.local/share/akonadi/akonadiserver.error':
[14:47] <JesseDhammu> Database process exited unexpectedly during initial connection!
[14:47] <JesseDhammu> executable: "/usr/sbin/mysqld-akonadi"
[14:47] <JesseDhammu> arguments: ("--defaults-file=/home/jesse/.local/share/akonadi/mysql.conf", "--datadir=/home/jesse/.local/share/akonadi/db_data/", "--socket=/tmp/akonadi-jesse.tODXjG/mysql.socket")
[14:47] <JesseDhammu> stdout: ""
[14:47] <unopaste> JesseDhammu you have been muted for 60 seconds as it looks like you are pasting lots of lines into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com and paste just the URL of your data here when you are unmuted
[14:47] <BluesKaj> hyper_ch, testing in vm isn't the same as areal partition
[14:47] <murthy> G__81: There is a message in the webpage "Note this page is obsolete, to install Plasma 5 now use Kubuntu Vivid/15.04 beta"
[14:47] <BluesKaj> JesseDhammu, what are you doing???
[14:47] <G__81> murthy: so the only option is to use 15.04 right?
[14:48] <murthy> G__81: Its the best option
[14:48] <JesseDhammu> File content of '/home/jesse/.local/share/akonadi/akonadiserver.error.old':
[14:48] <JesseDhammu> Database process exited unexpectedly during initial connection!
[14:48] <JesseDhammu> executable: "/usr/sbin/mysqld-akonadi"
[14:48] <JesseDhammu> arguments: ("--defaults-file=/home/jesse/.local/share/akonadi/mysql.conf", "--datadir=/home/jesse/.local/share/akonadi/db_data/", "--socket=/tmp/akonadi-jesse.tODXjG/mysql.socket")
[14:48] <JesseDhammu> stdout: ""
[14:48] <JesseDhammu> stderr: "2015-04-24 20:08:35 0 [Warning] TIMESTAMP with implicit DEFAULT value is deprecated. Please use --explicit_defaults_for_timestamp server option (see documentation for more details).
[14:48] <unopaste> JesseDhammu you have been muted for 60 seconds as it looks like you are pasting lots of lines into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com and paste just the URL of your data here when you are unmuted
[14:48] <murthy> G__81: plasma in 14.10 was for preview purpose
[14:48] <G__81> murthy: oh ok i thought if there is a way to install the plasma 5.2 in 14.04 LTS
[14:49] <BluesKaj> G__81, you can install plasma 5/KF5 on kubuntu 14.10 ..it will work , but not on 14.04
[14:49] <JesseDhammu> --------
[14:49] <JesseDhammu> No previous Akonadi control error log found.
[14:49] <JesseDhammu> Details: The Akonadi control process did not report any errors during its previous startup.
[14:49] <JesseDhammu> what to do with akondai sever
[14:49] <BluesKaj> somebody kick this guy , JesseDhammu
[14:49] <G__81> oh ok BluesKaj and moving forward there is no option to have any PPAs for the 14.04 for plasma 5 ?
[14:50] <BluesKaj> G__81, none that i know of
[14:51] <MoonUnit`> JesseDhammu: there is a bug report about it https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/akonadi/+bug/1437846
[14:51] <murthy> its a known bug right?
[15:13] <bluesky> nick
[15:21] <funbooster> k
[15:22] <kidx> how do i disable bouncy icosn onKDE 5.2 also how can i make the menu faster?
[15:24] <alvin> I lost all bookmarks in konsole (in this case, quite a lot) :-(
[15:24] <qua-non> hey guys have there been many reports of kubuntu 15.04 not working atall on virtualbox?
[15:25] <qua-non> after a update from 14.10. I can't seem to even get to the login screen using default boot parameters
[15:25] <BluesKaj> kidx, swystem settings>applications>launch feedback
[15:25] <qua-non> using upstart seems to get me to the loginscreen but kde5 locks soon after
[15:26] <BluesKaj> qua-non, how did you upgrade ?
[15:26] <qua-non> muon update manager
[15:26] <funbooster> hello
[15:27] <kidx> thanks guys
[15:27] <BluesKaj> qua-non, ok drop to tty/vt with ctl+alt+f1 to f6 then update and upgrade, after that reboot
[15:27] <BluesKaj> at the login
[15:27] <qua-non> BluesKaj, did that, does not help
[15:28] <qua-non> BluesKaj, sry seems your instructions didn't complete
[15:28] <BluesKaj> did you dist-upgrade too?
[15:28] <qua-non> yup
[15:29] <BluesKaj> whcich DM did you choose , sddm or lightdm
[15:29] <BluesKaj> qua-non,^
[15:29] <qua-non> lighdm
[15:29] <soee> switch to sddm
[15:29] <BluesKaj> ok , best to install sddm
[15:30] <qua-non> ok, trying
[15:31] <BluesKaj> bloody vms, what apita
[15:31] <hyper_ch> BluesKaj: it's not that I don't believe you... but testing it myself is like I don't believe you ;)
[15:31] <kidx> how can I make my menu faster?
[15:31] <kidx> just wondering
[15:32] <soee> switch t kicker
[15:32] <BluesKaj> hyper_ch, it's not the same on a vm as it is on a real partition
[15:32] <hyper_ch> BluesKaj: why not?
[15:32] <BluesKaj> because it's virtual
[15:32] <soee> kidx: right click on menu, choose Alternatives and select Application Launcher
[15:33] <hyper_ch> BluesKaj: it behaves like a real partition and harddisk even in the vm
[15:33] <BluesKaj> try it on a real install that resides on a partition, hyper_ch
[15:33] <kidx> it was a desktop effect
[15:33] <kidx> thats not what i mean I wanan make the menu popup faster
[15:34] <BluesKaj> no it doesn't and if you're telling ppl to do what you did above, then they're gonna lose all their data unless thy're on a vm too, hyper_ch
[15:34] <hyper_ch> BluesKaj: first thing I told was to make a backup
[15:34] <hyper_ch> and I said they might lose data
[15:35] <hyper_ch> hence the backup
[15:35] <BluesKaj> no matter , most ppl won't
[15:37] <hyper_ch> BluesKaj: if I attach a usb pendrive to the vm and make the test there, would that satisfy you?
[15:37] <BluesKaj> nope
[15:37] <hyper_ch> why not?
[15:38] <BluesKaj> you need a real partition,VMs are no substitute for the real partion
[15:38] <hyper_ch> a vm with an attached usb pen
[15:38] <BluesKaj> partition
[15:38] <hyper_ch> so there's a real partition on the usb pen
[15:38] <BluesKaj> that's all i have to say hyper_ch
[15:39] <hyper_ch> why isn't the usbpen a real partition?
[15:40] <qua-non> BluesKaj, apparently I had sddm installed and used, removing lightdm and it's kde greeter made no difference
[15:40] <BluesKaj> hyper_ch, you don't get it , I'm talking about installing to a real partition, not from one.
[15:40] <hyper_ch> BluesKaj: you can attach a usb pendrive to a vm
[15:41] <hyper_ch> so what's not real there when I then install onto that attached pendrive?
[15:41] <BluesKaj> hyper_ch, that's it that's all, no more
[15:41] <hyper_ch> I'm not install from the pendrive but TO THE PENDRIVE... you misunderstand
[15:42] <BluesKaj> a pendrive is meant for live media not a permannebnt installation
[15:42] <hyper_ch> how does a pendrive differ from a ssd? both is flash storage
[15:42] <BluesKaj> read above
[15:44] <hyper_ch> still not getting what the problem is.... creating a vm in vbox.... load the installer iso into the virtual dvd drive.... have a usb pendrive attached to the vm.... install into the pendrive... that's no live media but a permanent installation
[15:45] <qua-non> BluesKaj, I am assuming something might have gone wrong in the upgrade. My initial install was using ubuntu minimal install on top of which I did `sudo apt-get install kde-desktop`
[15:45] <qua-non> is it possible some new packages were introduced that might not have been installed in my system?
[15:45] <lordievader> qua-non: Is plasma-desktop installed?
[15:45] <BluesKaj> qua-non, perhaps you need to install kubuntu-dektop
[15:46] <BluesKaj> err desktop
[15:46] <qua-non> lordievader, Plasma-desktop might not be , checking
[15:46] <lordievader> !info plasma-desktop vivid
[15:46] <qua-non> BluesKaj, kubuntu-desktop is there and updated
[15:47] <BluesKaj> ok qua-non as lordievader suggested, plsama-desktop
[15:48] <BluesKaj> err plasma-desktop
[15:49] <BluesKaj> altho it did install by default when upgraded by internet from 14.10
[15:49] <qua-non> installed, rebooting to check, virtualbox is making me angry
[15:50] <qua-non> virtualbox has too many issues with 3d acceleration :/
[15:50] <qua-non> I didn't get such issues with 14.10
[15:51] <qua-non> don't know who to blame :P, system d likes to take 2 minutes to lookup network interfaces
[15:52] <BluesKaj> dunno why users think vms are the same as a real installation when they have so many problems associated with them
[15:52] <lordievader> qua-non: It wasn't installed before?
[15:52] <Etriaph> G'day folks.
[15:52] <lordievader> Etriaph: o/
[15:53] <qua-non> ok, that seems to have done something, it seems to work, although the plasma desktop seems to have a greyish theme not the whitish one showed inscreenshots of 15.10
[15:53] <Etriaph> 15.10 or 15.04?
[15:53] <qua-non> lordievader, apparently not
[15:53] <qua-non> 15.04, sry
[15:53] <lordievader> qua-non: That is odd...
[15:53] <lordievader> qua-non: Amd64 14.10 -> 15.04 upgrade?
[15:54] <qua-non> yes
[15:54] <lordievader> !info plasma5-desktop vivid
[15:55] <MoonUnit`> !info plasma-desktop vivid
[15:57] <denixx> Hi! I have a problem using kubuntu 15.04: When I do "ssh -l user -p 44 -L 8090:localhost:8090 -L 1234:localhost:5900 -R 5700:localhost:5900 my.hostname.org -N" - it opens connection, but when I try to use 5700 at remote computer, it says in local console "WARNING: Server requests forwarding for unknown listen_port 5700".
[15:57] <denixx> I'll appreciate any help.
[15:58] <denixx> It looks like some bug.
[16:01] <denixx> I have a brief look at sources of openssh-client, there is channels.c, method "channel_connect_by_listen_address(const char *listen_host, u_short listen_port, char *ctype, char *rname)" tries to do "if (open_listen_match_tcpip(&permitted_opens[i], listen_host, listen_port, 1)) {" and if nothing suits - do this error.
[16:01] <stuq> how do I change the auto-logout timing in 15.04?
[16:02] <MoonUnit`> stuq: desktop behaviour in settings
[16:02] <MoonUnit`> screen locking
[16:02] <qua-non> lordievader, I found the source of my issues it was not plasma-desktop, it's enabling 3d that leads to a lot of issues on the vm including kde getting stuck sometimes
[16:02] <stuq> MoonUnit`: ty
[16:03] <qua-non> disabling 3d has fixed the issues
[16:03] <qua-non> but I need 3d :/
[16:03] <lordievader> VB and graphics allways has been crap.
[16:03] <lordievader> But that might just be my opninion.
[16:03] <denixx> I am trying to understand is it a bug somewhere in openssh-client, but do not understand C-things, I am a Java programmer, unfortunately :(
[16:04] <qua-non> lordievader, I agree but I don't really have a option, I need to develop using 3d/opengl. Maybe I can disable the usage of opengl in kde?
[16:04] <lordievader> qua-non: Dual-boot / a better hypervisor ain't an option?
[16:05] <qua-non> lordievader, nope :/
[16:06] <lordievader> Heh, too bad.
[16:07] <qua-non> :D
[16:08] <lordievader> KVM/Qemu can passthrough a gpu ;)
[16:09] <qua-non> I need to provide this as a standalone vm to clents, is qemu friendly enough for that ? was not last I tried
[16:09] <qua-non> plus kvm is linux only no?
[16:10] <lordievader> Yes.
[16:11] <lordievader> With virt-manager to manage it, sure.
[16:11] <denixx> Ok, maybe I should try ubuntu's mailing lists?
[16:11] <rberg> BluesKaj: we were talking about lvm mirror vs raid 1 the other day. I came across this old article suggesting you may lose FS barriers using device mapper (DM) on multi disk configs.. https://deranfangvomende.wordpress.com/2011/04/04/linux-lvm-mirroring-comes-at-a-price/
[16:12] <rberg> I wonder if that have changed since
[16:13] <lordievader> Oehh, interesting.
[16:13] * lordievader reads
[16:15] <rosco_y> How can I fix my GUI so that I can easily drag windows across panels?
[16:15] <rosco_y> dconf?
[16:17] <mstop> Hi. Is here anybody from english-speaking country? Better US
[16:17] <lordievader> rberg: http://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/150644/raiding-with-lvm-vs-mdraid-pros-and-cons
[16:17] <rosco_y> Hi mstop
[16:19] <hyper_ch> there are cons against mdadm?
[16:20] <mstop> I heard two times beatiful female name... it sounds like Mannis or Menniz, how it type on a right manner?
[16:21] <lordievader> hyper_ch: Sure, it is not very flexible.
[16:21] <hyper_ch> lordievader: from what I read is that lvm-raid use mdadm
[16:21] <hyper_ch> sorry.. it uses mdraid... whatever that is
[16:22] <rberg> what flexibility is missing?
[16:22] <lordievader> Yes, but as a per lv based scheme. Not per disk scheme.
[16:22] <lordievader> You can have a mix of all raid flavours with lvm on the same couple of disks.
[16:23] <rberg> ohh thats pretty cool..
[16:23] * rberg sticks with raid 6
[16:23] <BluesKaj> mstop, do you have a kubuntu support question?
[16:23] <hyper_ch> you can also have all raid flavours on the same couple of disks with mdadm... IIRC
[16:24] <rberg> yeah I suppose you can if you make different raid levels out of partitions on disk
[16:24] <lordievader> Yes, but than you likely have fixed partitions.
[16:27] <azor> Hi everyone, just installed Kubuntu 15.04 on Asus UX305. Brightness control function keys don't work, although changing brightness using xbacklight works fine. Anyone have any ideas how to make fn keys working on 15.04? (or some hints/where to look for solution?)
[16:30] <hyper_ch> does canonical still stick to mir?
[16:33] <lordievader> Believe so.
[16:43] <hyper_ch> damn, the locale are totally weird.... all is english that's good... but date is still in mm/dd/yy and clock 12h format but gimp runs in german
[16:43] <hyper_ch> terminal is also german
[16:51] <plasma_question> hello folks, i am using the new KUBUNTU 15.04 and i am very enthusiastic about it, so nice! just one question: desktop-symbols for staring programs have a white quadratic background, for me this is ugly, how could i switch this off, i cant find it how to do so?
[16:51] <plasma_question> (starting)
[16:55] <aliman> damn i just install new version 15.04 and is awesome
[16:57] <murthy> aliman: nice
[16:58] <aliman> but unfortunatly now i need to get all my movies back like 200 cuz i lost em
[17:00] <murthy> oh. Take care next time
[17:01] <aliman> naa i wanted to do it. i created 3 partitions now so next time i just format /
[17:07] <BluesKaj> aliman, so / , /home and swap ?
[17:08] <aliman> yep
[17:08] <aliman> can anybody tell me which is the best adds block for firefox?
[17:10] <MoonUnit`> ublock is pretty light on resources.
[17:11] <BluesKaj> ublock works well tho
[17:11] <pedro> hi
[17:13] <aliman> BluesKaj, thx
[17:39] <jalo> Did anyone successfully install kubuntu 32bit on PC?
[17:39] <jalo> From DVD?
[17:43] <jalo> Asking because I didn't. Runs well on VM but not on PC.
[17:50] <M1C4HTRON13> anyone know how to get xchat to show in the systray in 15.04?
[17:51] <MoonUnit`> M1C4HTRON13: http://blog.martin-graesslin.com/blog/2014/06/where-are-my-systray-icons/
[17:52] <MoonUnit`> until they fix it you'll have to use an app to see them
[17:52] <M1C4HTRON13> thanks MoonUnit`
[17:53] <MoonUnit`> martins blog suggests wmsystemtray, personally find trayer to be better.
[18:08] <personal> Running kubuntu 14.04 lts x64 , fully updated . Finally figured out had to put a name in the get Jovie to talk, after an hour searching on the internet. Installed fesival from info on ubuntu help pages. Sounds nice enouth. I dont mind jovie voice but can't understend it half the time. Can't get jovie to use festival . Plently of BonJohn Jovie on google and can''t uderstand entire books of developer jargon .
[18:09] <dtalmage> If I wanted to work on a Plasma 5.0 tablet user experience, who should I contact?
[18:11] <personal> I could of read the entire works of encyclopedia britanica trying to operate ubuntu
[18:11] <lordievader> dtalmage: Probably somone in #kde-devel.
[18:12] <dtalmage> Oh, not #kubuntu? OK. I'll try there. Thanks!
[18:15] <personal> anybody know how to get jovie to notice festival ?
[18:17] <donnie> Will ppa:kubuntu-ppa/backports recieve the stable release of Plasma 5.3?
[18:17] <personal> Plasma 5 keeps crashing
[18:19] <personal> Nothing ever gets completed , nor stable.
[18:20] <BrianH78> hey everyone! i ran into a weird issue and was wondering if someone in here had any insight...i upgraded kubuntu 14.10 to 15.04 last night. when i went to log in this morning, it was telling me i was using the wrong password, and now i can't get in. anyone have any ideas? **sadface**
[18:21] <MoonUnit`> personal: found a post on kubuntu forums, might to too old to be useful though. https://www.kubuntuforums.net/showthread.php?57248-The-festival-does-not-work-with-Speech-Dispatcher-and-Jovie-please-help!&p=286929&viewfull=1#post286929
ok thanks, ill check it out
yeah , i read that entire post 3 times already . Tryied it, but did not work
[18:23] <MoonUnit`> :(
[18:23] <martin-u> I upgraded to the latest Kubuntu where they use KF5. Now all my personal settings are back to the default. How do I migrate them?
[18:25] <personal> with the pass word thing , press control alt F4 , maybe that will get you in to a shell
[18:26] <BrianH78> personal: hopefully. the question is, then, will it still tell me i have the wrong password? ;-)
[18:26] <fknupper> hi
[18:27] <fknupper> can anyone help me? i want to create a menü-entry
[18:27] <personal> I don't know but you can check. I dont know how to hack peoples accounts.
[18:27] <BrianH78> personal: LOL i'm just hoping to not have to burn it down and rebuild it again. =3
[18:28] <fknupper> in folder are the icons?
[18:29] <BrianH78> thanks for the tip, personal!
[18:29] <bOSKE> i just upgraded and changed double click in setings and now i double click to open files
[18:29] <bOSKE> but on desktop
[18:30] <bOSKE> when i double click it opens 2 times same app
[18:30] <bOSKE> dont know what to change now
Yeah i know what you mean . I'v being trying to remaster , so atleast i got the essentials , but have not manged to yet . 4 gb limit is a huge head ache.
[18:31] <lordievader> BrianH78: You could allways bootup with init=/bin/bash or in single user mode and change your user password from there.
[18:31] <MoonUnit`> bOSKE: there is a double click setting in dolphin and also a setting in settings/input devices/mouse
[18:33] <BrianH78> lordievader: i will try that if personal's CTRL+ALT+F4 trick doesn't drop me somewhere I can fix this. thanks!
[18:34] <BrianH78> i just wonder if the system hiccoughed while upgrading while i was asleep...LOL
i think any of the F's will do , and the orginal terminal is on F7 if i remeber ringt, but one of them any way, every F opens up a new terminal and the whole system runs in one of them . Pitty can't open seperate instances of it on all of them , seems to go bakc to same x sssion when type startx
[18:37] <bOSKE> MoonUnit`, i have changed it but only on desktop i have one click it gets me upset :)
[18:37] <bOSKE> http://www.dodaj.rs/f/1K/11Q/2ymk0fpW/snapshot5.png
[18:37] <BrianH78> personal: cool cool
[18:37] <bOSKE> http://www.dodaj.rs/f/1S/8P/2s9dqBgh/snapshot6.png
[18:39] <personal> 15.04 is unstable . It's like a complety new series , like when gnome and unity came out, as soon as they start getting good , they get dropped
[18:40] <bOSKE> i knew it i should not upgrade :/
[18:41] <BrianH78> personal: i think it's going to be cool once all the bugs get worked out (15.10, maybe?).
[18:42] <personal> The bugs never get worked out , like pushing apimple down anouther one pops up some where eles.
[18:43] <personal> Most bugs are cuased by change or grammer and spelling mistakes, there like dozen of computer launguges floating around and they change on a minute by miunte basis
[18:44] <personal> I'm betting these not a single stable releast of debain and it's supposed to be well know for it. Best to accct realty and plan on these thing happenig alot
[18:45] <lordievader> A tty still poses a login, the options I gave do not ;), personal, BrianH78
[18:46] <personal> Yeah its a good idea, 2 idea's are better then none .
[18:47] <BrianH78> personal: true...but at least we aren't stuck under the thumb of the redmond jerks. ;-)
[18:47] <personal> Who's redmond ?
[18:47] <BrianH78> lordievader: i wonder if, because i never logged out (just went to screensaver), it would require my password...haven't tried that yet
[18:48] <BrianH78> personal: redmond, Washington...microsoft's headquarters
[18:48] <personal> Oh ok , nice to know .
[18:50] <personal> Microsoft and google , are the reason i put up with so much. When i use windows , it crashes and burns ten times as much as linux
[18:50] <BrianH78> personal: same...i only use windows at work because i have to.
[18:50] <personal> Same .
[18:51] <BrianH78> hey lordievader: if i don't usually get boot options, is there a quick and easy way to force single user mode before it gets to the GUI?\
[18:51] <lordievader> BrianH78: Hold shift after the bios screen.
[18:52] <BrianH78> lordievader: thanks...couldn't remember if it was shift or CTRL
[18:54] <personal> If it dont work have a look at https://www.kali.org/ and ask if somebody knows how to crack it.
[18:55] <personal> We all use weak passwords becuase we have to type it in so ofthen and rember so many of them.
[18:57] <personal> If that fails, might have to read the works of Alan Turing , Lol.
[18:57] <lordievader> personal: Heh, you maybe.
[18:58] <lordievader> Anyhow the default Ubuntu setup is rather weak in terms of security if you don't do full disk encrytion and do have hardware access.
[18:58] <BrianH78> i dunno...my password is pretty strong...at least that's what ubuntu tells me. ;-)
[18:59] <personal> Are you goign to tell me you have a pass word that 1 out of a million other people dont have ? . They have lists and we are animals , we have habbits, we have trits, we have an ubringing in very predictable ways. Take baout an hour to run through a billion passwords.
[19:00] <Ironic57> Please help- Upgrade 14.10 to 15.10 hang at 61% anyway to refresh it, or do I reboot, and cross my fingers?
[19:00] <lordievader> personal: I am going to tell you that the password I have NO ONE else has.
[19:01] <lordievader> Only by brute forcing it you may find out.
[19:01] <personal> I really dought that. Cia can be hacked in to, absoluty nothing can't
[19:01] <Ironic57> watherboarding should work
[19:01] <personal> Even all those truecryt has being hacked
[19:01] <Ironic57> *water
[19:02] <personal> that will do it, or just play barneys " I love you , you love me " , for a few weeks
[19:02] <Ironic57> Can anyone help- Upgrade 14.10 to 15.10 hang at 61% anyway to refresh it, or do I reboot, and cross my fingers?
[19:03] <personal> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uq734_nZ7Eo
[19:03] <bazhang> !ot | personal
[19:04] <lordievader> Ironic57: For how long has it been in that state?
[19:05] <Ironic57> @Lord- about 2 1/2 hours since it said 31 minutes remaining
[19:06] <lordievader> Hmm, does top show any activity for dpkg or apt?
[19:06] <Ironic57> @Lord- any konsole comment I can use to kick it in the can?
How do i get kovie working , with any speech-dispacher but its own - it sounds alwful
[19:06] <genii> Ironic57: Are you able to get to a different console if you do ctrl-alt-F2-6 ?
[19:06] <lordievader> Ironic57: top ;)
[19:06] <bOSKE> where i can submit bugs for kubuntu?
[19:06] <lordievader> personal: ubottu is a bot ;)
[19:07] <lordievader> !bugs | bOSKE
[19:07] <Ironic57> @Lord- Window is now blank, but it said installing libsane-hpaio (386) at 61%
[19:08] <personal> Lol , who isn't
[19:09] <lordievader> Ironic57: Open a terminal and run 'top' for a while, see if dpkg or apt is active.
[19:09] <personal> Can i look at the code , maybe i can get it to figure out problems
dmesg , might help . dmesg | more
[19:12] <BrianH78> lordievader, personal: thanks for your help! gotta get back to the workday. cheers!
[19:12] <ubuntuer> hi guys
[19:12] <ubuntuer> ı want to learn something
No worries , better then nothing i hope. Have a good one .
[19:13] <ubuntuer> with modern and normal hdd whats the startup time ?
[19:14] <lordievader> I got 38 seconds on a luks -> lvm Gentoo install.
Scritch my back and i'll scratch yours, is ruby a good lauguge to learn , will it help work on ubuntu and fix problems ?
[19:14] <ubuntuer> ah
[19:14] <ubuntuer> i asked wrong
[19:14] <Ironic57> Total noob here, I have 141 task, no dpkg or apt in the command column
[19:14] <ubuntuer> i miss something
[19:15] <ubuntuer> ı mean kubuntu
[19:15] <ubuntuer> startup time
[19:15] <Ironic57> How do I direct comments in here?
[19:15] <lordievader> ubuntuer: I know ;)
[19:15] <lordievader> Ironic57: The <- name thing? Type the first few letters then tab to autocomplete.
[19:16] <lordievader> Ironic57: Anyhow, 'ps aux|grep apt\|dpkg' doesn't return anything?
[19:18] <genii> ubuntuer: I have a dual SSD as RAID1, From powering on switch to login screen of lightdm on Kubuntu 14.10 is about 20 seconds. After login, about another 12-15 seconds until my session comes up with konsole, firefox, quassel, and VLC running
that last command returns this: 1904 0.0 0.0 4532 2060 pts/9 S+ 15:17 0:00 grep --color=auto apt|dpkg
[19:19] <lordievader> Ironic57: Hmm, you can kill the upgrade window. Looks pretty dead to me.
[19:19] <lordievader> Ironic57: After you've killed it run 'sudo apt-get dist-upgrade' in your terminal.
- so download 15.10 to usb, and overwrite partition?
[19:21] <bazhang> !15.10
Thats bit risky , maybe change the server and try again .
[19:21] <bazhang> no such thing
[19:21] <lordievader> Ironic57: 15.10 is not yet released ;) No do as I say ;)
[19:21] <Ironic57> @Lord- The window won't die- won't quit
[19:21] <lordievader> Ironic57: Run 'sudo apt-get dist-upgrade' in a terminal.
[19:22] <lordievader> Ironic57: Ctrl + alt + esc -> click window
[19:22] <Ironic57> @lord- will do
[19:22] <jla2> Is the calendar holidays feature gone in 15.04?
[19:23] <Ironic57> @Lord- Returns: E: Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11: Resource temporarily unavailable) E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?
[19:23] <genii> !aptfix
[19:25] <Ironic57> ok- No idea who's addressing who
[19:26] <lordievader> Ironic57: The ubottu thing was to you ;)
[19:27] <genii> Ironic57: If you used sudo with the command that was given and you're still getting the message about not locking the file, use the instructions provided by the bot
[19:27] <Ironic57> @Lord- It's dead- thx
[19:28] <genii> Ironic57: You can't get any other consoles with c trl-alt-(F2 key through F6 key) ?
[19:28] <Ironic57> @Lord- this command?: sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a
[19:28] <Ironic57> I have terminal open np tasks
[19:28] <lordievader> Ironic57: That's what ubottu says ;)
[19:30] <Ironic57> @Lord- Returns: USER PID ACCESS COMMAND /var/lib/dpkg/lock: root 32505 F.... dpkg Kill process 32505 ? (y/N)
[19:32] <personal> sudo rm /var/cache/apt/archives/lock
[19:33] <lordievader> Ironic57: Yes kill it, but do not remove it.
[19:34] <Ironic57> @Lord- is killing a ton of processes and requests restart
[19:34] <lordievader> Not just that 32505 process?
[19:34] <Ironic57> @Lord- is setting up in terminal- thyvm
[19:35] <Ironic57> @Lord- going to leave terminal run, and when it's done will restart- tysvm
[19:36] <lordievader> Ironic57: What are you running exactly?
[19:37] <Ironic57> @Lord- I typed Y to kill the process as you said- and it's installing and setting up a ton of things
[19:37] <lordievader> Hmm, it is configuring things...
[19:38] <lordievader> After it finishes run 'sudo apt-get dist-upgrade' again.
[19:38] <jla2> Nevermind, a Google tells me KDE PIM libraries haven't been ported yet.
[19:38] <Ironic57> @Lord- I appreciate your help- thx
[19:38] <Ironic57> @Lord- w/o restart?
[19:41] <lordievader> Ironic57: Yes, without restart.
[19:43] <personal> 2 operators , a supected robot and 277 users , and not single person knows whats goign on with KDE text to speech
[19:43] <Ironic57> @Lord- It's updating everything so it'll be awhile, will do as you said before restart (sudo apt-get dist-upgrade) before restart- Thanks again
[19:45] <lordievader> personal: Don't think it is a feature in high demand.
[19:45] <lordievader> personal: You can allways try #kde.
Really 100 million retards in the world trying to use computers . What about poor black hole guy ?
Stephan hawkings . I'v lost how many times i'v seen people on t.v with the needy , saying computers are going to set them free of their hell
[19:49] <bazhang> personal, please stop that offtopic chat
[19:50] <personal> A main feature on KDE is off topic ?
[19:50] <bazhang> no
[19:55] <personal> I thought ubuntu ment humanity . I'll check out the other channel mentioned.
[19:56] <bazhang> this is a support channel personal , there are chat channels,
[20:00] <personal> Theres a bing bang singluarity, some where to. Do you mind shinning a torch , so i can find it
[20:02] <lordievader> This is what bazhang means, offtopic chatter. We got #kubuntu-offtopic for that.
[20:22] <derloewe> Hi there. I'm using Kubuntu 15.04 and I have a problem with Kontact - it doesn't start.
[20:29] <derloewe> there could be an issue with the akonadi-server... hello, is there anybody out there?
[20:29] <genii> derloewe: If you try to start it from inside Konsole, is there any informative output?
[20:33] <derloewe> genil: yeah. where can i paste the output?
[20:33] <derloewe> sorry... your name is <genii>
[20:34] <genii> !pastebin | derloewe
[20:36] <derloewe> genii: Okay, http://paste.ubuntu.com/10881126/ ... here is the output.
[20:39] <genii> Yeah looks like there's some akonadi messages in there, among other things
[20:41] <derloewe> So ... what can I do?
[20:41] <genii> derloewe: The problem looks to be beyond a simple fix which I could give you. I would report a bug for it.
[20:44] <Chaser_> Hi, on kubuntu 15.04 is there a way to set 24 hour time on digital clock ?
[20:44] <derloewe> Okay, thank you. Kubuntu 15.04 is quite "new", so there can be some issues? I can still view my mails using Firefox and the web-interface of GMail...
[20:45] <genii> derloewe: Yes, on every new release there is always some kinks and growing pains for the first few months after it comes out. The best thing is look at launchpad for kmail bugs and see if that one is known already, if so add to that report. If no existing one same symptoms, start a new report.
[20:45] <qdata> my very first attempt at looking at 15.04 in Vbox is a fail; I so wish they would revisit this 'must release on some deadline' and reconsider 'release when ready'
[20:46] <qdata> if it can't pass some early tests in vbox I'm not going to format my hard drive and install....
[20:47] <genii> qdata: I saw something of this earlier in another channel... one moment...
[20:47] <lordievader> qdata: In KVM Vivid works fine.
[20:48] <derloewe> genii: thanks a lot for your help. i will take a look at launchpad for kmail.
[20:51] <genii> qdata: Earlier in #xubuntu, a user could not install 15.04 into virtualbox which was running on a 14.04 host system. It was recommended to remove the repository version of virtualbox and install the Oracle version, which worked in that case.
[20:51] <qdata> I made the mistake of letting the driver manager thingy install the vbox guest extensions, now I have no mouse and the menu bar at bottom has crashed out and disappearred
[20:52] <genii> ( after they also installed the latest guest additions after going to the Oracle version )
[20:52] <qdata> I'm going to do another fresh install and not do that on #2
[20:52] <qdata> genii: thanks
[20:53] <qdata> I have a little time to play but when it runs out and I have to go back to work I'm done
[20:54] <qdata> I do backup with Clonezilla images so I can do a hard drive install if I want and if I don't like it I can always roll back
[20:55] <qdata> but right now I gotta have my workstation up for $real_life work, maybe over the weekend I'll try a real install and see
[21:05] <a5001> HI - Trying to install Kubuntu via usb iso - but come up with error "stdin: not a typewriter" anyone know what this means?
[21:13] <mparillo> Chaser_: I opened https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=340982
[21:15] <mparillo> Chaser_: The way I understand it (and I am not technical), basically in Plasma 5 these kind of configs are inherited from Qt, and if Qt does not support it for your locale, you can try a different one, but the kind of configuration you used to be able to do in System Settings in Plasma 4 is not available in Plasma 5. .
[21:16] <mparillo> Chaser_: I think the developers would prefer Qt implement it directly, users consider it a functional regression.
[21:28] <nfk|laptop> how is color management supposed to be done with 15.04?
[21:28] <soee_> i dont think its ported yet
[21:28] <soee_> one moment
[21:29] <nfk|laptop> oyranos or that shitcolord?
[21:31] <soee_> hm im not usre
[21:32] <lordievader> Doesn't oyranos work in Plasma5?
[21:32] <nfk|laptop> it's not shipped by default
[21:32] <nfk|laptop> kwin seems to have hooks for it, though
[21:32] <nfk|laptop> which is why i'm asking how it's supposed to be done so that i can enable it
[21:33] <nfk|laptop> up to 15.04 gnome's colord was used but that failure couldn't even manage to set edit much less proper color management
[21:33] <nfk|laptop> *edit profile
[21:33] <nfk|laptop> *set profile from edid
[21:37] <nfk|laptop> reboot
[21:50] <nfk|laptop> btw, is anyone seeing bad performance with Intel(R) WiFi Link 5100 AGN?
[21:51] <nfk|laptop> ssh as well as pure tcp are showing less than 20% of the former performance
[21:56] <PhilippeP> ''evening
[21:57] <nfk|laptop> actually, 20% turned out to be an overstatement, just more than 50% speed drop though jitter is really bad
[21:57] <nfk|laptop> i'm seeing seconds with like 0 kb/s
[21:58] <PhilippeP> After dist-upgrading last night , I was stuck at logon screen ... after investigation , the problem was my user was not in nopasswdlogin group ... after adding myself to that group login worked ... Hurray !
[21:59] <nfk|laptop> aha, it's negotiated much higher rate than in the past, could that be causing issues?
[22:05] <Chaser_> mparillo: thanks a lot. will checkout the bug report.
[22:14] <typhoon_2099> Is anyone else having trouble after upgrading to 15.04? I'm booting into a blank screen (after a breif flash of "starting version 219"). I've checked the Googlewebs and tried to restart the sddm service but this has not had any effect. I can still boot in with startx.
[22:16] <genii> typhoon_2099: Are you using sddm or lightdm for login manager, and do you have multiple displays? A bug earlier today if lightdm and multiple monitors: https://launchpad.net/bugs/1410406
[22:17] <genii> typhoon_2099: The current workaround is in the 9th post there
[22:18] <typhoon_2099> I did have multiple displays but my first debuig step was to purge the nvidia drivers, so my HDMI port should not be functioning. I'm using SDDM as my login manager, I removed lightdm in case there was a conflict.
[22:19] <genii> typhoon_2099: Does lsmod show that nouveau is loaded?
[22:20] <typhoon_2099> lsmod | grep nouveau
[22:20] <typhoon_2099> nouveau 1400832 2
[22:20] <typhoon_2099> mxm_wmi 16384 1 nouveau
[22:20] <typhoon_2099> ttm 98304 1 nouveau
[22:20] <typhoon_2099> i2c_algo_bit 16384 2 i915,nouveau
[22:20] <typhoon_2099> drm_kms_helper 122880 2 i915,nouveau
[22:20] <unopaste> typhoon_2099 you have been muted for 60 seconds as it looks like you are pasting lots of lines into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com and paste just the URL of your data here when you are unmuted
[22:21] <genii> typhoon_2099: Perhaps I should have specified to use a pastebin :)
[22:22] <typhoon_2099> Haha, yeah I didn't consider I'd be muted, I'm not on IRC too often (just getting back into it). It does appear to be working though, i even managed to get DOTA 2 running.
[22:23] <genii> Hm, i915. So this looks like Optimus or similar nvidia/intel hybrid card
[22:23] <genii> ( i915 is Intel driver)
[22:24] <typhoon_2099> It's a GT630M/Intel HD 5000.
[22:28] <genii> typhoon_2099: I would suggest to install again the nvidia drivers, first from official repositories and see if that helps. Also to put GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT="nouveau.nomodeset=1" into /etc/default/grub after that and sudo update-grub
[22:28] <genii> Bah.
[22:33] <typhoon_2099> I just tried running `sddm-greeter --test-mode` in the konsole and noticed the following error:file:///Main.qml: File not found
[22:34] <typhoon_2099> It looks like the issue may be related to the theme?
[22:35] <genii> Possible
[22:35] <genii> typhoon_2099: You had left earlier just before I had a recommendetion... i will repost it
[22:36] <typhoon_2099> Sorry, rebooted to trya gain
[22:36] <genii> typhoon_2099: I would suggest to install again the nvidia drivers, first from official repositories and see if that helps. Also to put GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT="nouveau.nomodeset=1" into /etc/default/grub after that and sudo update-grub
[22:36] <darthanubis> http://picpaste.com/snapshot6-HnYUdtkt.png
[22:36] <typhoon_2099> *again
[22:38] <typhoon_2099> Okay, I'll give that a go and see what happens
[22:39] <genii> typhoon_2099: The next tactic would be to add the xorg-edgers PPA and use those drivers
[22:39] <typhoon_2099> I was using those before.
[22:39] <darthanubis> http://picpaste.com/snapshot9-b4pvbmvx.png
[22:39] <typhoon_2099> I'll try nvidia-346-updates
[22:41] <typhoon_2099> If this does not work then I may try `sddm --example-config > /etc/sddm.conf` and see what happens
[22:42] <genii> darthanubis: For the first one - Have you tried in Konsole to install it? eg: sudo apt-get install ttf-mscorefonts-installer ..and maybe get some additional info if it fails
[22:42] <darthanubis> It installs and doesn't fail. It removes and doesn't fail. But this notice remains in either case
[22:45] <genii> darthanubis: As for the Quassel, no immediate idea on it, sorry.
[22:45] <darthanubis> I really don't care if quassel gets fixed or not. I just want to sort this kde daemon notification aberration.
[22:47] <genii> I do know the Quassel devs were experiencing issues with porting it to the new framework. For now I'm staying on the 14.10 until such things are sorted.
[22:50] <rosco_y> Just now trying to setup my hp laserjet. The test page printed. I send it a small test job and it does nothing, but after a half-minute, it reports the job as "completed". Does anyone have advice?
[22:51] <darthanubis> you are missing some more hp packages, and there is a hp test to run from cmdline
[22:51] <darthanubis> run hp-check from cmdline
[22:52] <rosco_y> darthanubis: ty, I'll try google in that direction for a while :)
[22:53] <rosco_y> wow, that does give a lot of feedback....
[22:53] <darthanubis> hp-doctor
[22:58] <rosco_y> darthanubis: ty, I'll look at that too...
[22:59] <rosco_y> I like this hp-doctor--not only finds the trouble, it's fixing it too (fingers x'd)
[23:00] <darthanubis> yup
[23:06] <darthanubis> can anyone repoduce my first issue?
[23:07] <rosco_y> hp-check reported a lots of missing depencies and hp-doctor cleared up everything, so all the status' are OK now, test page printed, but not printing from gvim ('asdf')....maybe reboot?
[23:12] <rosco_y> Well, my think is that a reboot couldn't hurt anything, although I'm pretty sure that some linux gurus would reprimend me, saying "You should almost never need to reboot your linux."....
[23:28] <Taggnostr4> Hello
[23:29] <Taggnostr4> I just upgraded my computer to kubuntu 15.04 and now it's getting stuck on the loading screen just after the login
[23:30] <Taggnostr4> kwin_x11 is eating all the CPU and the loading bar doesn't seem to advance
[23:30] <darthanubis> what kind of computer??
[23:30] <Taggnostr4> Any idea how can I fix this?
[23:30] <darthanubis> what was running on it before
[23:30] <darthanubis> what kind of graphics card?
[23:31] <Taggnostr4> An old laptop, it was running 14.10, nvidia graphics
[23:31] <darthanubis> you upgraded or fresh installed?
[23:31] <Taggnostr4> Upgraded
[23:31] <darthanubis> ack
[23:32] <darthanubis> have you tried to get to tty and restart sddm?
[23:33] <Taggnostr4> During the upgrade I got a prompt that asked me to choose between lightdm and sddm iirc, and I pick lightdm
[23:33] <Taggnostr4> Maybe I should switch to sddm?
[23:34] <Taggnostr4> Not sure how to switch/restart it though
[23:36] <darthanubis> Just install sddm and it will ask you to choose again
[23:36] <darthanubis> you know how to get a fresh tty right
[23:36] <darthanubis> ctrl-alt-fn
[23:36] <Taggnostr4> Yes
[23:36] <darthanubis> cool
[23:37] <Taggnostr4> Should I just apt-get it?
[23:37] <Taggnostr4> It seems already installed
[23:38] <darthanubis> now uninstall lightdm
[23:39] <Taggnostr4> Done. Should I reboot now?
[23:41] <darthanubis> yup
[23:41] <darthanubis> bb in 10mins myself
[23:42] <Taggnostr4> OK
[23:43] <stormchaser3000> hi
[23:43] <stormchaser3000> um i am using kubuntu 15.04 and um.
[23:43] <Taggnostr4> Now it passed the loading screen but it's all black
[23:43] <stormchaser3000> how do i change the color of the orion gtk theme?
[23:45] <stormchaser3000> would be nice to not have to use oxygen-gtk to be able to change the gtk colors
[23:50] <odmen> hey ppl
[23:50] <odmen> is anybody uses kubuntu 15.04?
[23:50] <odmen> how good is it?
[23:51] <odmen> is there any way to upgrade from 14.04 to 15.04, or only fresh install?
[23:51] <Taggnostr4> The login screen looks nice, haven't managed going last that yet :)
[23:51] <Dragnslcr> I think you have to upgrade to 14.10 first, then you can upgrade to 15.04
[23:52] <odmen> arrgggh shame..
[23:52] <odmen> it looks very nice, but what about stability?
[23:59] <Taggnostr4> darthanubis, even with sddm as default desktop manager, kwin_x11 is eating all the CPU
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[02:42] <ash_charles> hello---I'm new to snappy and just learning my way around.
[02:46] <ash_charles> I see an error "beagleboneblack_1.0_all.snap failed to install: Signature verification failed with exit status 10" when playing with the beaglebone example oem package
[02:46] <ash_charles> any hints?
[03:05] <ash_charles> Ah---the magic seems to be adding the '--developer-mode' argument for locally built packages
[06:28] <D_Cent> hi, i installed java on my snappy ubuntu and now wrote a bash script which starts a java application which should be running as a service. the problem is that apparmor won't let me execute java, it says "Operation not permitted". can i allow java to be called somehow?
[06:29] <D_Cent> (the service was installed as a snap)
[07:00] <Chipaca> D_Cent: what exactly is getting blocked?
[07:00] <D_Cent> Chipaca: the java call itself
[07:00] <Chipaca> D_Cent: dmesg | grep DENY
[07:01] <D_Cent> Chipaca: hm... that doesn't give me anything
[07:01] <Chipaca> D_Cent: then it isn't apparmor
[07:01] <D_Cent> Chipaca: systemctl status says: Apr 24 07:01:04 localhost.localdomain ubuntu-core-launcher[1318]: /apps/rda-watchdog.sideload/0.1/bin/rda-watchdog: line 4: /usr/bin/java: Operation not permitted
[07:02] <Chipaca> D_Cent: wait, you installed java to /usr/bin/?
[07:02] <D_Cent> Chipaca: well, I basically just installed the raspbian debian package - I didn't find a snap or anything for snappy
[07:02] <Chipaca> haha
[07:03] <Chipaca> D_Cent: how did you install a package from a different architecture? isn't raspbian armel?
[07:03] <D_Cent> Chipaca: i've got "oracle-java8-jdk_8_armhf.deb", so i guess not ;)
[07:04] <Chipaca> D_Cent: looks like there is an armhf raspbian. fair enough.
[07:04] <D_Cent> Chipaca: so why is the call getting blocked? is there another way to get java working?
[07:05] <Chipaca> D_Cent: it's not getting blocked; it's probably entirely broken
[07:05] <Chipaca> D_Cent: can you run java from the terminal?
[07:05] <D_Cent> Chipaca: but i can execute the script when not using systemd
[07:05] <D_Cent> Chipaca: exactly
[07:06] <Chipaca> D_Cent: once you've installed a debian package onto a snappy system it is not a snappy system any more, you're pretty much on your own there. have you looked into whether seccomp is blocking it somehow?
[07:06] <Chipaca> i've got to go, but can probably help you a bit further when i return in an hour and half or so
[07:07] <D_Cent> Chipaca: okay, thank you!
[07:07] <Chipaca> D_Cent: meanwhile, look into seccomp
[07:07] <D_Cent> I'll do
[07:17] <ogra_> D_Cent, you either need to put the java install inside your snap or you need to create a framework package if you actually need to consume java from multiple snaps ... installing a deb will be reverted completely on updates
[07:18] <dholbach> good morning
[07:18] <ogra_> Chipaca, raspbian is armhf but ARMv6 ...
[08:08] <D_Cent> ogra_: okay, so this will be a problem for me then... for example, i need wi-fi (wpa_supplicant) and that doesn't come with ubuntu core, so i installed that with dpkg, too
[08:19] <davidcalle> dpm, when trying the appliance guide last night, have you been hitted by this (second part of the bug) ? https://bugs.launchpad.net/snappy-ubuntu/+bug/1447724
[08:19] <dpm> davidcalle, that's the bug that I fixed
[08:20] <davidcalle> dpm, oh! Cool :)
[08:20] <dpm> davidcalle, the .sideload references are now .canonical
[08:20] <davidcalle> dpm, ok, makes sense
[08:21] <dpm> davidcalle, I think it's because the original version of the guide was written with a locally-installed snapp, whereas a store snapp was made available afterwards. At least that's what I think
[08:21] <dpm> after changing the instructions to .canonical, the guide worked for me
[08:22] * davidcalle should get a bbb
[08:26] <mhall119> davidcalle: dholbach: did rcj's changes to the snappy docs get made yesterday?
[08:26] <davidcalle> mhall119, yep
[08:27] <dholbach> mhall119, davidcalle responded at 23:54 CET
[08:35] <JamesTait> Good morning all; happy Friday and happy Teach Your Children to Save Day! :-D
[08:54] <Chipaca> D_Cent: so if you need to use something like wap_supplicant, i think you need to create a framework package with that, and then make your package depend on the framework
[08:54] <Chipaca> D_Cent: however, i do believe the intention is for core to have some kind of wifi story soon :)
[08:55] <Chipaca> it might just mean that we're going to create that framework package ourselves
[08:57] <D_Cent> Chipaca: that would be great :)
[08:58] <Chipaca> D_Cent: meanwhile you might need to muddle through it on your own though :)
[08:58] <Chipaca> it's not even on the trello yet
[08:58] <Chipaca> afaik :)
[08:58] <D_Cent> Chipaca: so now i'm trying to put java directly into the snap and it *seems* to work. Now I have to deal with other issues that the usb4java library has ;) (temporary directory creation)
[08:58] <Chipaca> D_Cent: temp dir should be set up properly though
[08:59] <D_Cent> Chipaca: i guess it tries to create that directory right where you call the java command from, but i guess i can fix that :) i just hope that i won't run into problems when accessing usb devices
[09:00] <Chipaca> D_Cent: what directory is it trying to create?
[09:00] <Chipaca> D_Cent: wrt usb devices, that's what “snappy hw-assign” is for
[09:00] <D_Cent> Chipaca: it should be /apps/rda-watchdog/watchdog/usb4java
[09:01] <Chipaca> D_Cent: your thing is a framework?
[09:01] <D_Cent> Chipaca: right now it's just an app
[09:01] <Chipaca> D_Cent: that's not the path of an app though
[09:02] <D_Cent> Chipaca: ah wait...
[09:02] <D_Cent> Chipaca: /apps/rda-watchdog.sideload/current/watchdog/usb4java is the correct path
[09:02] <Chipaca> better :)
[09:02] <D_Cent> :)
[09:02] * Chipaca hadn't even notice the missing version in the first one
[09:03] <Chipaca> D_Cent: your app is trying to write there?
[09:03] <D_Cent> Chipaca: the usb4java framework wants to extract a jar file temporarily to get access to a native library which it then wants to load
[09:04] <ogra_> so you need to ship that library inside
[09:05] <Chipaca> ogra_: java doesn't give you too much control over that, does it?
[09:05] * Chipaca doesn't know
[09:05] <D_Cent> i'll try that :)
[09:06] <ogra_> Chipaca, i think java uses enmv vars you can shufflke around
[09:06] <Chipaca> D_Cent: if your java thing expects PWD to be writeable, better cd to $SNAP_APP_DATA_PATH (or $SNAP_APP_TMPDIR ?) before starting it
[09:07] <Chipaca> ogra_: or -Xeogijuoifvhiofiodsfqrigikvnueoicodifighiu43
[09:07] <Chipaca> or maybe it was 44, and 43 was "go buy beer"
[09:07] <Chipaca> hard to know
[09:08] <D_Cent> Chipaca: aah thanks, that's a better idea
[09:09] <Chipaca> D_Cent: if you're running on an arm board, and you know that extracion is happening every time your app starts, and you can instead ship things unextracted, go with that
[09:09] <Chipaca> D_Cent: save yourself some time
[09:11] <Chipaca> s/arm/low power/
[09:11] <Chipaca> probably same applies for the intel thingamajig
[09:11] <D_Cent> Chipaca: hmmm 2cd: /tmp/snaps/rda-watchdog.sideload/0.1/tmp: No such file or directory"
[09:12] <D_Cent> Chipaca: that happens when trying "cd $SNAP_APP_TMPDIR"
[09:12] <Chipaca> D_Cent: hm. maybe you need to mkdir -p it first?
[09:12] <Chipaca> if that doesn't work, double-hm :)
[09:13] <D_Cent> okay, double hmm ;) "mkdir: cannot create directory ‘/tmp/snaps’: Permission denied"
[09:13] <Chipaca> tee, hee. ok. that's a Bug
[09:14] <Chipaca> D_Cent: hm. the code to make it is there.
[09:14] <Chipaca> D_Cent: maybe you're running something old/ancient?
[09:15] <Chipaca> D_Cent: there's a mkdir in the wrapper in /apps/bin/<your app>
[09:15] <D_Cent> Chipaca: i just build my image yesterday with ubuntu-device-flash
[09:15] <D_Cent> *built
[09:15] <Chipaca> D_Cent: could you pastebin the wrapper?
[09:16] <D_Cent> Chipaca: you mean my script which starts the java process?
[09:17] <Chipaca> D_Cent: no, i mean the wrapper that's created for the binaries declared in your package.yaml and placed in /apps/bin/
[09:17] <Chipaca> D_Cent: which is what sets up the environ for your app before calling it with ubuntu-core-launcher
[09:17] <D_Cent> Chipaca: aah sure, just a sec
[09:18] <D_Cent> Chipaca: http://pastebin.com/sszsfZGt
[09:20] <Chipaca> D_Cent: so, that fine; that creates the directory
[09:21] <D_Cent> Chipaca: okay, but i start that as a service
[09:21] <Chipaca> D_Cent: you .. what?
[09:21] <D_Cent> Chipaca: it is supposed to be started by systemd
[09:22] <Chipaca> D_Cent: but then it's not a binary, it's not in /apps/bin/
[09:22] <Chipaca> i'm making you look in the wrong place :)
[09:23] <D_Cent> Chipaca: hehe so basically, i just run "sudo systemctl start rda-watchdog_rda-watchdog_0.1" and that runs the systemd script in /etc/systemd/system - seems like that doesn
[09:23] <D_Cent> * doesn't use /apps/bin
[09:23] <Chipaca> D_Cent: so, could you pastebin the service file from /etc/systemd/system/ ?
[09:24] <Chipaca> D_Cent: should be something like rda-watchdog_yourservice_yourversion.service
[09:24] <D_Cent> Chipaca: sure :) http://pastebin.com/jN2Gq3SK
[09:25] <Chipaca> hmmmm :)
[09:25] <Chipaca> dunno why i asked you to do that. no surprises there.
[09:26] * Chipaca digs into it
[09:26] <D_Cent> hehe thanks :)
[09:26] <Chipaca> pitti: i've got a systemd question for you when you're around
[09:30] <D_Cent> Chipaca: now i see what it is trying to do - app armor reports: "audit: type=1400 audit(1429867806.982:39): apparmor="DENIED" operation="mknod" profile="rda-watchdog.sideload_rda-watchdog_0.1" name="/tmp/usb4java2636409983806462228.tmp" pid=2021 comm="java" requested_mask="c" denied_mask="c" fsuid=0 ouid=0"
[09:31] <Chipaca> D_Cent: good. now you need to find out what env var is needed so that it uses the "right" tmpdir
[09:32] <Chipaca> D_Cent: while i sort out that right tmpdir getting created, you should be able to create it yourself from outside
[09:33] <D_Cent> Chipaca: for the moment, i just use $SNAP_APP_DATA_PATH which exists and is writable
[09:33] <Chipaca> D_Cent: ok :)
[09:34] <Chipaca> mvo: sergiusens: I *think* we need to put something in tempfiles.d so the services get their tmpdir. Waiting for confirmation from pitty wrt that.
[09:35] <pitti> Chipaca: just shoot
[09:36] <Chipaca> pitti: we're telling services they should use a given TMPDIR
[09:37] <Chipaca> pitti: that TMPDIR does not exist
[09:37] <Chipaca> pitti: poking around a little it seems we need to drop a file in one of the tempfiles.d
[09:37] <Chipaca> pitti: is that the right way?
[09:41] <Chipaca> pitti: so a file named like the package, with one line of the form “d $TMPDIR 1777 ubuntu ubuntu” per service
[09:44] <pitti> Chipaca: that works, but TBH I'd rather set this up in ubuntu-app-launcher
[09:45] <pitti> Chipaca: i. e. just mount a private /tmp/ into the app's namespace, so that you don't need a $TMPDIR at all
[09:45] <Chipaca> pitti: that sounds a lot better; a lot of code doesn't check TMPDIR anyway.
[09:46] <pitti> Chipaca: yeah, that was my concern
[09:46] <pitti> Chipaca: I noticed that with the ROS snap, I had to sed its code to make it respect TMPDIR
[09:46] <ogra_> can you actually call mount from a snap ?
[09:46] <Chipaca> ogra_: not on my watch :)
[09:46] <pitti> ogra_: no, you don't need to, just the launcher
[09:47] * Chipaca doesn't actually have a watch
[09:47] <ogra_> ah, so systemd then
[09:47] <pitti> ?
[09:47] <Chipaca> ogra_: no, ubuntu-core-launcher
[09:47] <pitti> (not related to that)
[09:47] <ogra_> oh, thats a new thing ...
[09:47] <Chipaca> ogra_: maybe. it's also setuid.
[09:47] * ogra_ only has dones service snaps yet
[09:47] <pitti> at least in my PoC I already create a new namespace for mounting a private /dev/pts/
[09:47] <pitti> it's trivial to add a tmpfs /tmp/ there
[09:48] <pitti> I think that might not yet be in mvo's C implementation in vivid, but at some point we want to add it
[09:48] <Chipaca> pitti: is that PoC on the launcher, or is it something else?
[09:48] <Chipaca> ah
[09:48] <Chipaca> ok :)
[09:48] <pitti> Chipaca: on ubuntu-core-launcher, yes
[09:49] <Chipaca> so, we probably want to do that soon
[09:49] <Chipaca> because services have no tmpdir right now
[09:51] <pitti> yeah, agreed
[09:51] <pitti> and also the /dev/pts/ so that apps can't spy on each other's terminals (well, apparmor would/should prevent that too, but it's still cleaner)
[09:53] <Chipaca> pitti: sgtm. asac also wanted private /dev/, but that's hairier
[09:54] <Chipaca> anyway, sounds like we have a plan for this, and either you or mvo are on it already. I'll go back to worrying about obscure error cases.
[09:54] <Chipaca> D_Cent: meanwhile, you'll have to create the directory by hand every time (or create a file in /etc/tmpfiles.d; man tmpfiles.d)
[09:55] <pitti> Chipaca: we have restricted device access already
[09:55] <pitti> Chipaca: private /dev/ was teh original plan and PoC, but we have something better now (using the devices cgroup)
[09:59] <D_Cent> Chipaca: alright, thank you!
[10:01] <Chipaca> pitti: ok :) i thought we'd had to go back on that for now, but glad to be wrong
[10:02] <Chipaca> pitti: added a comment on the /dev/pts card so we don't forget
[10:17] <mvo> yeah, private /tmp and /dev/pts is planed just not done yet and will be added soon(ish)
[11:47] <D_Cent> hm... got another problem now. i put java into an own framework package and it works completely. now i have an app, set java as a framework for the app and tried calling "java". without mentioning the path "/apps/bin/java" it doesn't find the executable. if i use that path directly, i get an "operation not permitted" error
[11:48] <sergiusens> fwiw, and executable shouldn't be a framework
[11:48] <sergiusens> a framework should be something that mediates resources
[11:50] <D_Cent> hm.. okay, the documentation mentions i could put binaries and services into frameworks
[11:51] <ogra_> sergiusens, an interpreter isnt a resource ?
[11:51] <sergiusens> ogra_: i felt that was coming
[11:51] <ogra_> lol
[11:52] <sergiusens> it will be very hard to claim the 'java' namespace in any case
[13:07] <D_Cent> can somebody explain what exactly java tries doing here so it gets killed? "[24632.544408] audit: type=1326 audit(1429880585.774:262): auid=1000 uid=0 gid=0 ses=25 pid=4173 comm="java" exe="/apps/rda-watchdog.sideload/0.1/java/bin/java" sig=31 arch=40000028 syscall=370 compat=0 ip=0x76ede622 code=0x0"
[13:38] <jdstrand> pitti: fyi, the private /dev conversation was because cgroups don't block what the app sees, only what the app accesses. so, ls /dev shows everything even if the app can only access /dev/foo. personally, I think that is fine. we aren't trying to reimplement container solutions-- if people want containers, they can use them
[13:55] <mvo> D_Cent: try scmp_sys_resolver 370
[13:55] <mvo> D_Cent: this looks like there is a missing syscall in our seccomp whitelist
[13:57] <ogra_> well, he is using an ARMv6 binary ...
[13:57] <ogra_> could be related
[13:58] <mvo> yeah, we had issue with the arm private syscalls before
[13:58] <mvo> libseccomp did not implement them all, jdstrand send a patch upstream, maybe there are more private arm syscalls (but really I'm no expert for this)
[13:59] <jdstrand> I haven't sent one yet
[13:59] <jdstrand> err
[13:59] <jdstrand> haven't sent it upstream yet
[14:00] <jdstrand> there were 5 listed in the kernel sources and confirmed in other seccomp implementations (firefoxos, minijail)
[14:00] <jdstrand> we shouldn't have any more missing syscalls. our template might be missing one
[14:01] <jdstrand> the private syscalls have a much higher number. 370 is in the normal range and not a private arm syscall
[14:02] <mvo> ahah, ok
[14:02] <mvo> sorry
[14:02] <jdstrand> on bbb:
[14:02] <jdstrand> $ scmp_sys_resolver 370
[14:02] <jdstrand> name_to_handle_at
[14:03] <jdstrand> name_to_handle_at is explicitly denied due to "a history of vulnerabilities and are not widely used"
[14:04] <jdstrand> tyhicks: can you look at backscroll for 1 hour and advise?
[14:05] <jdstrand> tyhicks: it appears java is trying to use name_to_handle_at
[14:07] <D_Cent> mvo: thanks a bunch! can you also tell me how to enable the syscall by default?
[14:08] <jdstrand> D_Cent: please read my comments
[14:08] <jdstrand> this is a problematic syscall and we've disabled it
[14:09] <D_Cent> jdstrand: ah okay, i'm sorry
[14:10] <jdstrand> you now, you can add it manually to /var/lib/snappy/seccomp/profiles/<yourapp>
[14:10] <jdstrand> but it will be lost on upgrade
[14:10] <D_Cent> jdstrand: that's what i did for now :/
[14:11] <jdstrand> you might be able to avoid it in your java code
[14:11] <D_Cent> jdstrand: it's actually not my code - it happens in the usb4java library (which basically is based on a C library)
[14:12] <jdstrand> this gives some information on the call: http://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/utopic/man2/open_by_handle_at.2.html
[14:16] <jdstrand> D_Cent: perhaps there is a way to disable it at compilation. It was introduced in 2.6.39 kernel (~4 years ago). if this library is meant to be used on older kernels...
[14:18] <tyhicks> I'm looking at how/why usb4java is using that syscall
[14:18] <D_Cent> jdstrand: i didn't compile it myself yet, so i guess i should do that now. the library i use now was built on GCC: (Debian 4.6.3-14+rpi1) 4.6.3
[14:18] <jdstrand> tyhicks: hi! (and thanks)
[14:18] <tyhicks> jdstrand: hey :)
[14:19] <jdstrand> D_Cent: you might wait for tyhicks' response
[14:20] <tyhicks> D_Cent: hi - I've cloned the libusb4java and usb4java git trees and I'm not finding where that syscall is being made in either of them
[14:21] <tyhicks> D_Cent: can you give me some more info? (is it a specific version of libusb4java?)
[14:21] <ogra_> tyhicks, he is grabbing the binaries from raspbian ...
[14:21] <ogra_> which is a hacked up armhf, forced to ARMv6 instead of v7 ...
[14:22] <D_Cent> tyhicks: i can't find it either by just grepping, so it must be an indirect call i think
[14:22] <ogra_> (so they rebuild the debian archive with different compile options)
[14:22] <tyhicks> hrm
[14:22] <D_Cent> tyhicks: the function is called once i call "UsbHostManager.getUsbServices()"
[14:22] <tyhicks> this is really odd
[14:22] <tyhicks> I've never heard of anything needing that syscall other than an nfs server that was implemented in userspace
[14:24] <D_Cent> tyhicks: i'm also very confused. everything else in my java code is working, just not that usb library call
[14:29] <jdstrand> tyhicks: fyi, https://codesearch.debian.net/results/name_to_handle_at/
[14:29] <tyhicks> jdstrand: I'm on page 8 :)
[14:30] <tyhicks> btw, "UsbHostManager.getUsbServices()" is from javax-usb and I pulled down their git tree and don't see it being called in there
[14:32] <jdstrand> oh, interesting
[14:32] <tyhicks> jdstrand: I didn't see any packages actually using name_to_handle_at... only things that need to enumerate the syscall table
[14:32] <jdstrand> http://sources.debian.net/src/docker.io/1.3.3~dfsg1-2/contrib/mkseccomp.sample/?hl=393#L393
[14:32] <D_Cent> i wish i could track that system call down a bit more, like with a call stack or something
[14:32] <jdstrand> docker blocks it by default. of course, they have a way to add it
[14:33] * jdstrand notes we have a way to add blocked syscalls to via the "security-override" mechanism, however, this particular one is explicitly denied
[14:33] <jdstrand> too*
[14:33] <D_Cent> :(
[14:34] <tyhicks> I'm wondering if the "hacked up armhf, forced to ARMv6 instead of v7" part is the problem
[14:35] <tyhicks> maybe the syscall number is different somehow??
[14:35] <ogra_> that was what i thought ...
[14:35] <D_Cent> tyhicks: the oracle JVM runs fine on raspbian on the same machine (raspberry pi 2)
[14:35] <tyhicks> D_Cent: what is the oracle JVM version?
[14:36] <D_Cent> tyhicks: they only put the major version (8) into the package name
[14:36] <tyhicks> ok
[14:40] <tyhicks> D_Cent: I pulled down the tip of the jdk8u tree (http://hg.openjdk.java.net/jdk8u/jdk8u/) and I'm still not seeing open_by_handle_at() being used
[14:41] <tyhicks> D_Cent: I'm pretty convinced that nothing is using that syscall and there are other low level issues at play around syscall numbering
[14:42] <D_Cent> tyhicks: is there a way to make sure?
[14:43] <tyhicks> D_Cent: I can try to find the source of the kernel that you're running
[14:43] <D_Cent> tyhicks: or i'll try the openjdk package from here: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/openjdk-8
[14:44] <tyhicks> D_Cent: you can try that but don't spend too much time on it
[14:44] <blackout24> Hello, I'm trying to get a better understanding of Ubuntu Snappy. I'd like to know how the system image is put together (I guess this is made from debs) and how the "ubuntu-core" package that list listed by "snappy list" is created. I looked around on launchpad, but I'm a bit lost.
[14:44] <tyhicks> D_Cent: I don't think it'll help since I think the problem is lower in the stack than openjdk
[14:44] <jdstrand> tyhicks: fyi, http://paste.ubuntu.com/10879065/
[14:45] <jdstrand> tyhicks: do you have a moment to go through that with me?
[14:46] <nessita> mvo, hey, you around?
[14:46] <jdstrand> tyhicks: well, a few moments
[14:46] <tyhicks> jdstrand: yeah, we should talk through that diff soon
[14:46] <tyhicks> D_Cent: what kernel version? `uname -r`
[14:46] <nessita> jdstrand, o/ do you know, by any chance, if the snaps define "hooks" in their manifest, or the "hooks" is just a click thing?
[14:46] <ogra_> tyhicks, he is not using openjdk but oracles java for RPi ... ;)
[14:47] <jdstrand> nessita: hooks are click only
[14:47] <nessita> jdstrand, great, thanks
[14:47] <jdstrand> (white lie-- click-apparmor is still a hook, but that will be removed in coming weeks
[14:47] <jdstrand> )
[14:47] <tyhicks> ogra_: uhh... happen to have a link to that source?
[14:48] <D_Cent> thecomedian: 3.19.1-4-generic-bcm2709
[14:48] <D_Cent> woops
[14:48] <ogra_> tyhicks, no, i just followed the conversation before you joined ... i guess D_Cent has one though
[14:48] <D_Cent> thecomedian: 3.19.1-4-generic-bcm2709
[14:48] <D_Cent> tyhicks: 3.19.1-4-generic-bcm2709 - now i got that right
[14:48] <ogra_> (and i doubt there is source .... being oracle )
[14:48] <thecomedian> lol
[14:49] <D_Cent> thecomedian: sorry, auto completion by irssi ;)
[14:49] <thecomedian> np :)
[14:49] <ogra_> tyhicks, next time you need to know D_Cent's kernel version, ask thecomedian ... he has it spare ... twice :)
[14:49] <tyhicks> :)
[14:50] <thecomedian> :-P
[14:50] <D_Cent> hehe
[14:50] <D_Cent> tyhicks: okay, the openjdk doesn't make it better
[16:00] <D_Cent> bbl
[16:01] <vmayoral|pc> greetings
[16:03] <vmayoral|pc> asac: We keep finding the issues with the boot partition getting corrupted in Snappy. Has someone addressed this in newer versions of snappy for the BBB?
[16:08] <jodh> davidcalle: hi - I've just noticed that https://developer.ubuntu.com/en/snappy/guides/filesystem-layout/ is outdated. The latest details are in http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~snappy-dev/snappy/snappy/view/head:/docs/system-updates.rst
[16:09] <jodh> davidcalle: do we plan to put that doc up as a separate one at some point?
[16:13] <jodh> davidcalle: bug raised - https://bugs.launchpad.net/snappy-ubuntu/+bug/1448203
[16:47] <jdstrand> sergiusens: hey, can you add this to your webdm profile: '@{PROC}/sys/net/core/somaxconn r,'
[16:47] <jdstrand> sergiusens: see snappy-dev@
[16:48] <jdstrand> sergiusens: there is another denial that we should address as well
[16:53] <jdstrand> slangasek: fyi:
[16:53] <jdstrand> $ sudo snappy update
[16:53] <jdstrand> Installing ubuntu-core (36)
[16:53] <jdstrand> Starting download of ubuntu-core
[16:53] <jdstrand> 136.29 KB / 136.29 KB [[16:53] <jdstrand> Done
[16:53] <jdstrand> Failed to run command '/bin/mount -obind /boot/uboot /writable/cache/system/boot/uboot': mount: mount point /writable/cache/system/boot/uboot does not exist
[16:53] <jdstrand> (exit status 32)
[16:54] <jdstrand> I think that might be what is reported in the bug on upgrade problems
[16:54] <jdstrand> (that is a bbb)
[17:00] <slangasek> jdstrand: yes, it's certainly the same bug. what was your upgrade path on this system?
[17:01] <slangasek> after one update on the stable channel, I've got /boot/efi and /writable/cache/system/boot/efi which I don't think were there before. I also have /boot/uboot still correctly in place
[17:01] <jdstrand> slangasek: r33 trying to go to r36
[17:02] <slangasek> jdstrand: and r33 was the initially installed version?
[17:02] <jdstrand> slangasek: note, I've tried several times to upgrade
[17:02] <slangasek> ok
[17:03] <jdstrand> slangasek: actually, I think I started on r30, got to r33, then tried r36
[17:03] <jdstrand> slangasek: not sure if you say my other comments in that bug-- previous attempts had umount errors and autopilot errors in syslog
[17:04] <jdstrand> s/say/saw/
[17:05] <slangasek> ok
[18:01] <yngves> What is the intended behaviour if an app specifies a framework that is not installed? Resolve the dependency by installing the missing framework? Fail, and inform the user what is missing?
[18:34] <tyhicks> D_Cent: Hi - I got pulled into something else for a while but I just got a chance to look at the kernel sources that you're running
[18:35] <tyhicks> D_Cent: it looks like name_to_handle_at is syscall 370 there, too
[18:35] <tyhicks> D_Cent: however, I still think something odd is going on and don't feel comfortable white listing that syscall until we see the same behavior on one of the officially supported platforms
[18:36] <tyhicks> D_Cent: could you please file a bug against ubuntu-core-security so that we can track the issue?
[18:39] <HoloIRCUser2> Hi, can anyone hell me? I tried snappy 15.04 stable and edge (in kvm). And i want to try the webdm, but there is no service which listen in a TCP port except ssh.
[18:39] <asac> vmayoral|pc: not sure which version you are using
[18:39] <asac> vmayoral|pc: but we surely invested into making this pretty reliable
[18:40] <asac> HoloIRCUser2: we are working on making webdm work on 15.04 right now... in a couple days an update will be in sotre that will bring the webserver back
[18:40] <HoloIRCUser2> Help not hell ^^
[18:40] <asac> HoloIRCUser2: its fine... i didnt even read "hell" until you mentioned it
[18:41] <asac> HoloIRCUser2: https://developer.ubuntu.com/en/snappy/guides/webdm/ read the box on the right
[18:42] <asac> :)
[18:42] <HoloIRCUser2> ADAC: thank you very mich!
[18:42] <davmor2> HoloIRCUser2: in kvm you need to set the port, you'll see other examples of it.
[18:42] <asac> welcome!
[18:42] <HoloIRCUser2> Lool, German Android keyboard
[18:42] <asac> davmor2: that too, but webdm we preinstall doesnt start the server because its not compatible with latest snappy tooling yet... had to make that decision to get base system rock solid for release
[18:43] <asac> buut couple days it will all look great and even better than before
[18:43] <davmor2> asac: yeah I got hit installing it and couldn't figure out why I couldn't access it
[18:43] <asac> HoloIRCUser2: android keyboard? wow... guess you try snappy on your laptop right now? :)
[18:44] * asac uses his laptop for ubuntu core amd64 now
[18:44] <asac> davmor2: i am sure sergio is hacking on the plane right now to get us stuff back
[18:44] <asac> :)
[18:44] <asac> vmayoral|pc: would you mind trying with the released image?
[18:44] <asac> or rather 15.04/edge
[18:44] <asac> if you want bleeding edge from stable
[18:45] <asac> vmayoral|pc: so many things did land in last couple weeks that you surely want to update
[18:45] <HoloIRCUser2> davmor2: i connected to the console and searched with netstat for listening ports. I know what you mean. I am using bridge and not a internal network for the guests
[18:45] <asac> jdstrand: what was your upgrade series to get into that state?
[18:46] <asac> slangasek: you think you can try the upgrade path 30 -> 33 -> 36? i think its about the same kickinz1 had
[18:47] <asac> jodh: can you provide an update to just filesystem doc? and at best integrate that as a separet md
[18:47] <asac> we want one that is just about that
[18:47] <asac> the system upgrade is good, but should refer to the spec that is just about that at best
[18:47] <asac> thx
[18:48] <asac> btw, interesting discussion going on here: http://www.phoronix.com/forums/showthread.php?117235-Ubuntu-s-Desktop-Next-Switching-From-DEBs-To-Snappy
[18:48] <jdstrand> asac: sorry was in a meeting
[18:48] <asac> some folks seems to get it
[18:48] <asac> jdstrand: i just asked 2 minutes ago :)
[18:48] <jdstrand> asac: flash r30, upgrading to r33, tried to get to r36
[18:49] <jdstrand> I noticed autopilot errors after r33
[18:49] <jdstrand> r30 to r33 was ok
[18:49] <jdstrand> if there were errors, I didn't see them
[18:49] <jdstrand> (there weren't on the console for sure)
[18:49] <asac> right we must not send an update to the stable channel until we have figured
[18:49] <asac> slangasek: did you pull 3?
[18:50] <asac> just triple checking :)
[18:50] <jdstrand> I would agree with that
[18:50] <jdstrand> (being cautious)
[18:56] <HoloIRCUser2> asac: which box do you mean, I can't find such box ^^
[19:02] <D_Cent> tyhicks: hey, thank you very much for your help! of course, i'll do that as soon as possible!
[19:02] <tyhicks> D_Cent: thanks!
[19:16] <blackout24> Hi, is there any place where I can learn how the ubuntu-core system image is put togehter? I have been looking for a launchpad repo that has all the tools that are used, but could not find anything.
[19:47] <asac> blackout24: so we use our official infra to do that which is not very nicely documented
[19:47] <asac> nor available
[19:48] <asac> blackout24: we use livecd-rootfs
[19:48] <asac> afaik
[20:36] <asac> sorry, didnt see any pings if there were any :)
[20:55] <asac> slangasek: so i am in a armhf click chroot ... and i have libssl-dev:armhf installed and i have an autoconf/make project that doesnt find it without me giving very strong hints...
[20:55] <asac> slangasek: isnt there some magic supposed to be that does all that for me? like setting CONFIG_SITE=/etc.. ?
[20:55] <asac> this doesnt do anything for me ;/
[20:56] <asac> i even ran autoreconf to ensure i ahve all the latest stuff
[20:56] <asac> but nothing
[20:58] <asac> ok guess i really have to set libdir manually
[21:21] <asac> slangasek: figured it. ignore
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[05:04] <Kilos> hi barrydk and everyone else
[05:15] <barrydk> More Kilos and everyone
[06:23] <pieter2627> morning all
[06:23] <Kilos> hi pieter2627
[06:24] <Kilos> Symmetria whats breaking there?
[06:28] <Symmetria> kilos ubuntu 15.04 broke my raid controller :p had to go back to an old kenrel version
[06:28] <Kilos> oh my
[06:36] <ThatGraemeGuy> moo
[06:36] <Kilos> hi ThatGraemeGuy
[06:39] <inetpro> good mornings
[06:39] <Kilos> morning inetpro
[07:10] <Kilos> oh my
[07:11] <Kilos> he needs an extra pc
[07:48] <Padroni> Monring all
[07:49] <Kilos> hi Padroni
[07:49] <Kilos> hows things
[07:49] <Padroni> Anyone switch to 15.04 yet?
[07:49] <Padroni> Worth it?
[07:49] <Padroni> I am good
[07:49] <Kilos> pieter2627 just did
[07:49] <Padroni> might have loadshedding in 10 min
[07:49] <Padroni> not sure yet
[07:49] <Kilos> and ThatGraemeGuy the other day already
[07:50] <Kilos> i can never find my area so dont know when we get shed
[07:50] <Kilos> hi drazoro
[07:50] <drazoro> hello Kilos
[07:50] <ThatGraemeGuy> I use debian
[07:51] <TinuvaMac> well debian 8 will be here soon :P
[07:51] <Padroni> hi ThatGraemeGuy
[07:51] <Padroni> did you start making beer yet?
[07:52] <ThatGraemeGuy> I'm not going to, was just curious
[07:52] <ThatGraemeGuy> don't drink nearly enough beer to make it worth my while
[07:52] <Padroni> I might make a batch again the weekend
[07:52] <ThatGraemeGuy> maybe i can look into making my own brandy :-)
[07:52] <Padroni> it's time
[07:52] <Padroni> wouldn't that be cool?
[07:52] <Padroni> or whisky
[07:53] <MaNI> Kilos, did you try the media24 gridwatch thing? it seems to cover most areas quite well
[07:53] <Padroni> I can imagine one's friend circle expanding rapidly the moment word gets out that you make brandy...
[07:55] <Kilos> whew no MaNI
[07:55] <Kilos> what does it do?
[07:55] <MaNI> http://loadshedding.news24.com/
[07:55] <Kilos> i battle to keep up as it is so more rtfs can drive me mal
[07:56] <Kilos> oh ya
[07:56] <Kilos> you gave me that the other day and it doesnt see my area
[07:56] <Kilos> do you know pretoria
[07:57] <Kilos> im 6 ks west from the last robot inj van der hoff road
[07:57] <MaNI> yeah, I worked there for a few miserable years, and fiance is from centurion
[07:57] <MaNI> but I can't remember street names anymore :p
[07:58] <Kilos> van der hoff goes to brits and hartebeestpoort dam
[07:59] <Kilos> it runs parrallel with church street
[08:00] <Kilos> that grid thing sees none of these local areas
[08:01] <MaNI> strange
[08:01] <MaNI> maybe they only like capetown
[08:01] <Kilos> lol
[08:02] <MaNI> it even has rooihuiskraal though
[08:02] <MaNI> so I don't know whats special about your area :p
[08:04] <Kilos> not special enough
[08:05] <Kilos> this whole area this side of ptown are old farms that were divided and sol to make plots
[08:05] <Kilos> sold
[08:07] <Kilos> but theyve even named areas like suburbs many years ago so i dont know
[08:07] <Kilos> would be nice if loadshedding used google maps so you can tick your area
[08:13] <MaNI> yeah thats what would happen in a competent country
[08:13] <MaNI> :p
[08:13] <TinuvaMac> http://www.ewn.co.za/assets/loadshedding/capetown.html has loadshedding areas on a google map :P
[08:13] <MaNI> oh no wait they just wouldn't shed at all then
[08:13] <TinuvaMac> or at least a google-maps like map
[08:15] <Kilos> wb pieter2627
[08:18] <pieter2627> hi Kilos, 6km W about in Magaliesmoot?
[08:20] <Kilos> exactly in magaliesmoot
[08:21] <pieter2627> wow, i'm just on the opposite of the mountain and a bit east
[08:21] <Kilos> church street side?
[08:21] <pieter2627> to far, just east of the R80
[08:22] <Kilos> which mountain
[08:22] <pieter2627> magalies
[08:24] <Kilos> so you on same side as the acacia hospital
[08:24] <Kilos> pro also
[08:24] <pieter2627> yes 3km from it
[08:24] <Kilos> ya now i have the area
[08:24] <Kilos> i go by memories
[08:25] <Kilos> some bad
[08:25] <pieter2627> ya well that is the easiest way to remember some times
[08:25] <Kilos> lol
[08:26] <Kilos> isnt that area covered by wifi
[08:27] <pieter2627> wug?
[08:27] <Kilos> i seem to remember looking for the pro
[08:27] <Kilos> nono telkom wifi
[08:27] <Kilos> there were a few hotspots there
[08:28] <pieter2627> i have the luck to be close to the middle of a two block radius that seems to have nothing - not even 3g
[08:28] <Kilos> eish
[08:32] <Kilos> not even telkom mobile
[08:33] <Kilos> bet you a voda sucker
[08:33] <pieter2627> have not tested
[08:34] <Kilos> the pro is out on the plots north east of you
[08:34] <Kilos> there is a shopping centre there something park
[08:34] <Kilos> they have a telkom shop there
[08:35] <pieter2627> wonderpark
[08:35] <Kilos> yaya
[08:35] <Kilos> thats where i had to go to get my telkom modem
[08:35] <Kilos> but you have adsl so thats good
[08:37] <pieter2627> they stole the lines one too many and telkom said that they won't fix, have to switch to their wimax. but had no coverage so moved - think they fixed it later
[08:37] <pieter2627> * in the end
[08:38] <Kilos> ai! you in the same boat as us then
[08:38] <Kilos> the pro gets a fast telkom connection with an external antenna
[08:38] <Kilos> 22mb/s
[08:39] <pieter2627> yeah we know too much to know when things are broken or not optimal :p
[08:39] <pieter2627> wow
[08:40] <Kilos> what modem are you using
[08:41] <pieter2627> not sure, they say it's a wimax variant
[08:41] <Kilos> oh my
[08:41] <pieter2627> seems like wugs use the same
[08:42] <Kilos> if you have no adsl and no 3g then you must be wireless
[08:42] <Kilos> or how does that thing work
[08:42] <pieter2627> yes, like wimax
[08:42] <Kilos> free?
[08:43] <pieter2627> paid R570 uncapped
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[08:44] <Kilos> spam
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[08:44] <ThatGraemeGuy> eish
[08:44] <Kilos> stop
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[08:44] <Kilos> oh my
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[08:44] <Kilos> whats happening
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[08:44] <drazoro> Lol
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[08:45] <drazoro> A binary string of a image. How big is this file ?
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[08:45] <Kilos> pieter2627 ping
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[08:45] <Kilos> stop
[08:45] <ThatGraemeGuy> he pasted a chunk of text and his client is limiting how quickly its sending and we don't have a bot that can detect this nonsense
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[08:46] <drazoro> Guess that will stop now :)
[08:46] <Kilos> shame he couldnt stop it
[08:46] <drazoro> Welcome back pieter2627
[08:46] <Kilos> whay happened
[08:47] <pieter2627> has it stopped?
[08:47] <Kilos> ya
[08:47] <drazoro> Was about to ask
[08:47] <pieter2627> closed irc client
[08:47] <Kilos> we noticed
[08:47] <pieter2627> so sorry guys
[08:47] <Kilos> np accidents happen
[08:48] <Kilos> did you see it all too pieter2627
[08:48] <Kilos> lol
[08:49] <pieter2627> yea, but instantly - didn't realise it was slow on other ends
[08:49] <ThatGraemeGuy> your client slows it down else the server would just boot you
[08:49] <Kilos> we got pages full
[08:49] <Kilos> lol
[08:50] <ThatGraemeGuy> we need a bot in here that can detect that and kick
[08:50] <drazoro> I bet it would still be running if pieter2627 did not close the client.
[08:50] <Kilos> yeah
[08:50] <drazoro> That is a good idea ThatGraemeGuy
[08:50] <Kilos> what does all that mean anyway
[08:50] <drazoro> I see on other channels they have that.
[08:50] <pieter2627> as part of Maaz's rewrite?
[08:51] <ThatGraemeGuy> meh i dunno ask the people who run the channel
[08:51] <Kilos> i think that rewrite has frightened simon away
[08:51] <ThatGraemeGuy> writing a bot in 2015 is silly there are a million options to choose from
[08:51] <Kilos> the weed said its a major job
[08:52] <Kilos> we like ibid
[08:52] <Kilos> very efficient bot for our uses
[08:53] <ThatGraemeGuy> which is all good and well if someone bothers to maintain it properly
[08:53] <ThatGraemeGuy> but useless otherwise :)
[08:55] <DalekSec> He simply hit "copy image", and thought it'd be a link. Some clients have /server purge btw, irssi does.
[08:56] <Kilos> we are trying ThatGraemeGuy if simon gets the rewrite done im sure hell maintain it too and the weed said he will be here for help
[08:57] <ThatGraemeGuy> right :)
[09:00] <Kilos> also doing such a large rewrite from python 2 to python 3 will shows ones python skills i think
[09:00] <Kilos> then we will know who to shout for when needing python help
[09:01] <Kilos> poor fly is swamped
[09:01] <confluency> Python 2 and 3 aren't that different.
[09:01] <drazoro> This will be interesting project,
[09:01] <confluency> There's a utility that automates a lot of the rewrites.
[09:01] <Kilos> hi confluency
[09:02] <confluency> I see I missed some binary screaming. :)
[09:02] <Kilos> lol
[09:02] <drazoro> Yeah tools like 2to3
[09:02] <ThatGraemeGuy> so now there's no good bot because you are waiting on someone to write it, whereas there are perfectly good bots with easy plugin capabilities that could be up and running in an hour
[09:02] <confluency> I wouldn't port from 2 to 3 without a good reason. 2 is going to be around for a while.
[09:02] <ThatGraemeGuy> yup, makes sense to me :)
[09:02] <Kilos> Maaz works fine man
[09:02] <Maaz> Kilos: Huh?
[09:02] <confluency> Also I wouldn't write an IRC bot full stop. :P
[09:03] <confluency> Gotta go; back later.
[09:03] <ThatGraemeGuy> yes, like Maaz just helped that massive wall of text
[09:03] <ThatGraemeGuy> oh, wait.......
[09:03] <Kilos> confluency ibid doent work on 14.04 and up
[09:04] <Kilos> the weed said its something to do with new ubuntus needing python 3
[09:20] <Langjan> Hi Kilos, howzit?
[09:20] <Kilos> hi Langjan good ty and you?
[09:20] <Langjan> En pieter2627
[09:20] <Langjan> also well thks
[09:21] <Langjan> all systems up and running but with a tail
[09:21] <Kilos> is the lappy doing what it should
[09:21] <Kilos> what tail
[09:21] <Langjan> Yes, but!
[09:21] <Kilos> hmm...
[09:21] <Kilos> that word but! can rock the boat
[09:22] <pieter2627> good ty Langjan
[09:22] <Langjan> Booting stopped again, I could only get it to boot via advanced options, so I wiped it and did a fresh install. Iets running much better than ever before.
[09:23] <Kilos> ok
[09:24] <Kilos> so where does the but come in?
[09:24] <Kilos> what isnt working
[09:25] <Langjan> I tried the repartition thing, no change, redid boot repair, still no change. Eventually I tried some radical things in boot repair which rendered it us, fortunately I was prepared, did a backup just before, no damage done.
[09:25] <Kilos> whew\
[09:26] <Langjan> No, everything is working fine, as I said its running better than ever, used to look sticky like when switching desktops, now its as quick as can be.
[09:27] <Kilos> great news
[09:27] <Langjan> So ek gaan julle nie vandag pla nie behalwe om dankie te se
[09:27] <Kilos> ai! my oompie jy weet jy is enige tyd welkom
[09:28] <Langjan> Ja baie dankie. Dan verlang ek nie meer so baie na Windows nie.
[09:28] <Kilos> lol
[09:28] <Kilos> just remember only use boot repair if you cant boot at all
[09:29] <Kilos> oh wait before you go
[09:29] <Langjan> OK ek het ander werk, julle moet die dag geniet.
[09:29] <Langjan> Yes
[09:29] <Kilos> here is a link to helpful info too
[09:29] <Langjan> thks
[09:29] <Kilos> http://compunation.co.za/
[09:30] <Langjan> What did you think of the book part I sent you?
[09:30] <Langjan> Will have a look see thks
[09:30] <Kilos> what book part
[09:30] <Langjan> Theophostic prayer ministry
[09:30] <Kilos> oh my what have i forgotten
[09:30] <Kilos> oh ya
[09:31] <Kilos> was good just some things i see differently
[09:31] <Langjan> Thaks, looks like a handy site
[09:32] <Kilos> ya we have 2 guys working on that
[09:32] <Langjan> Tell me about it some time, what you see differently
[09:32] <Langjan> Are you involved with the site admin?
[09:32] <Kilos> i will need to read again so mind fresh please send again
[09:32] <Kilos> which site
[09:33] <Langjan> compunation
[09:33] <Kilos> nono
[09:33] <Kilos> both guys arent here now
[09:33] <Langjan> you say "we have 2 guys working on that
[09:33] <Kilos> you mustnt only come here when you break something man
[09:34] <Kilos> guys pop in and out
[09:34] <Langjan> Hey I have things to do, sorry!
[09:34] <drazoro> Lol
[09:34] <Kilos> padroni and jacques\
[09:34] <Kilos> thats their baby
[09:34] <Kilos> have a good day Langjan
[09:35] <Kilos> soet wees toppie
[09:35] <Langjan> Thks Kilos, you also. Gedra jou, al is dit swak.
[09:35] <Kilos> lol altyd man
[09:35] <Langjan> Mooi loop
[09:36] <Langjan> ek stuur daai boek weer, dis diep maar belangrike goeters
[09:41] * drazoro Will be back
[09:42] <Kilos> ok
[10:43] <TinuvaMac> http://www.engineeringnews.co.za/article/eskom-to-hold-maintenance-festival-this-weekend-2015-04-22
[10:43] <TinuvaMac> weekend
[10:43] <TinuvaMac> will
[10:43] <TinuvaMac> be
[10:43] <TinuvaMac> epcic
[10:43] <TinuvaMac> epic
[10:45] <Kilos> hmm...
[11:20] <confluency> Kilos: you can still use python2 on Ubuntu. I don't know why it wouldn't work.
[11:21] <Xethron> Greetings guys
[11:21] <Xethron> Hows everyone doing?
[11:21] <Xethron> Any PHP Devs in here?
[11:21] <confluency> Maybe there's some kind of library incompatibility, but it's not because of python2/3.
[11:21] <confluency> It should also be possible to run it out of a virtualenv with older custom versions of libraries if necessary.
[11:22] <Kilos> matbe tumbleweed can just tells us why ibid needs to go to python 3 confluency
[11:23] <Kilos> but he is still at about 3 am there in silicon valley
[11:23] <pieter2627> hi Xethron, yes there are
[11:23] <Kilos> oh yes the pro has it running on vm
[11:24] <Xethron> Heya Kilos, how are you?
[11:24] <Kilos> hi Xethron im tired ty and you
[11:25] <Kilos> hehe
[11:25] <Xethron> haha, same here yeah
[13:06] <TinuvaMac> https://www.google.com/maps/place/33%C2%B030'52.5%22N+73%C2%B003'33.2%22E/@33.5138456,73.0588008,15z/data=!4m2!3m1!1s0x0:0x0?hl=en
[13:18] <ThatGraemeGuy> lol
[13:26] <ThatGraemeGuy> Ubuntu 15.04 also welcomes Ubuntu MATE to the party as an official community flavour.
[13:38] * drazoro loves Mate
[13:39] <Kilos> lol
[13:41] <Kilos> inetpro die weer kom van die weste
[13:42] <Kilos> en die suide
[13:44] <Xethron> I actually downloaded elementary, want to try that out. The desktop looks very sleek
[13:45] <Kilos> it is nice
[13:45] <Kilos> bit different but nice
[13:45] <Xethron> Yeah
[13:45] <Xethron> Have you used it?
[13:45] <Kilos> yes but i prefer kubuntu
[13:45] <drazoro> I still love i3wm work fine as well. I know is a tiling manager.
[13:46] <drazoro> But sometimes I use fluxbox
[13:53] <ThatGraemeGuy> I think I'm going to try mint for a bit
[13:53] <ThatGraemeGuy> i downloaded it quickly
[13:54] <ThatGraemeGuy> 1.4GB in 5 mins
[13:54] <ThatGraemeGuy> woop woop :-D
[13:54] <Kilos> sjoe
[13:57] <kulelu88> did somebody get fibre?
[14:00] <ThatGraemeGuy> no, somebody is still at work
[14:00] <ThatGraemeGuy> i have 1 kids i can't afford fibre :-)
[14:00] <ThatGraemeGuy> um
[14:00] <ThatGraemeGuy> 2 kids
[15:12] <Kilos> haha thunderbird sees facebook emails as junk
[15:16] <Kilos> hmm...
[15:16] <Kilos> oh you back ThatGraemeGuy
[15:17] <Kilos> oh no
[15:17] <Kilos> inetpro het jy nat gekry
[15:34] <Kilos> hi kulelu88
[15:34] <kulelu88> o/
[17:25] <Kilos> gremble wb
[17:25] <Kilos> ohi superfly
[17:26] <Kilos> everyone else here in lurk mode
[17:31] <Kilos> hmm... looks like a dont talk to kilos conspiracy
[17:32] <Kilos> i go watch agents of shield
[17:44] <gremble> Good evening everyone
[17:44] <gremble> Even you Kilos
[17:44] <gremble> :P
[17:44] <Kilos> lol
[17:50] <georgelappies> hi Kilos
[17:50] <Kilos> hi georgelappies
[18:10] <inetpro> good evening
[18:10] <inetpro> Kilos: no, I'm dry
[18:10] <Kilos> yay inetpro we had 8mm
[18:25] <kulelu88> this weather se moer
[19:15] <Kilos> hmm...
[19:32] <inetpro> superfly: Kubuntu 15.04 looks awesome!
[19:32] <Kilos> uh
[19:34] <inetpro> wat uh jy oom Kilos?
[19:35] <Kilos> inetpro did you look at pietrejie bzr link
[19:35] <inetpro> no
[19:35] <Kilos> ek uh want nou moet ek daai ander ding kry eers
[19:36] <inetpro> is jou eie skuld oom Kilos
[19:36] <Kilos> i think pieter has sorted everything
[19:36] <Kilos> nee man dit versterk die africa projek
[19:36] <Kilos> i should never have stared that
[19:36] <inetpro> as jy so se
[19:37] <Kilos> wat nou
[19:37] <Kilos> you okes encouraged me to do it and now i have no time anymore
[19:37] <Kilos> missed 2 meetings already
[19:37] <inetpro> haha, watse meetigs het oom gemis?
[19:38] <Kilos> board
[19:40] <Kilos> i miss just #ubuntu-za and pidgin then i had nap time during the day
[19:41] <Kilos> im a bad board member
[19:43] <Kilos> and i have to explain why i greet peeps
[19:43] <Kilos> get asked am i the happy greeter
[19:44] <Kilos> then i have to explain what being a community is
[19:44] <inetpro> haha
[19:44] <inetpro> Kilos: don't lie, you're enjoying it
[19:45] <Kilos> ya but i get more tired now
[19:45] <Kilos> cant stay up to get an iso
[19:45] <Kilos> need to experiment with at and wget
[19:45] <Kilos> and murphy lives here
[19:46] <Kilos> sigh
[19:48] <Kilos> but one advantage is , not rtfs all the time
[19:48] * inetpro busy installing kubuntu while chatting on IRC
[19:49] <Kilos> slim ne
[19:50] <Kilos> wow
[19:50] <Kilos> you normally wait till all the bugs are sorted
[19:50] <ThatGraemeGuy> boo
[19:50] <Kilos> there is still over 1000
[19:51] <Kilos> hi ThatGraemeGuy
[19:51] <stickyboy> :P
[19:51] <Kilos> oh maybe kde fixed what they need
[19:51] <ThatGraemeGuy> I'm all minty
[19:51] <Kilos> haha
[19:52] <inetpro> Kilos: https://plus.google.com/+GustavHMeyer/posts/UJMbGMoVns2
[19:52] <Kilos> sjoe
[19:52] <Kilos> dont do that man
[19:53] <Kilos> i done have data for 2 isos
[19:53] <inetpro> what?
[19:53] <Kilos> tempt me like you normally do
[19:53] <inetpro> ai!
[19:53] <Kilos> jy is skelm
[19:54] <Kilos> you and fly carried on about i dont have that prob i used kde
[19:54] <Kilos> till i eventually got it
[19:55] <inetpro> Kilos: it's the fly's fault
[19:55] <Kilos> now i dont like anything else anymore
[19:55] <inetpro> I mean the fact that I'm now upgrading to 15.04
[19:55] <Kilos> now i gotta test bento
[19:56] <Kilos> oh
[19:56] <Kilos> ya you two make a good team
[19:56] <Kilos> both skelm
[19:56] * inetpro decided to use KDE before Canonical even released Kubuntu
[19:57] <Kilos> yaya but you werent happy with me on gnome
[19:58] <inetpro> was very happy when sabdfl announced the Ubuntu OS but but got even more excited when they decided to launch the KDE version as well
[19:58] <Kilos> ha he just sends me url?
[19:58] <Kilos> not even a hello
[19:58] <Kilos> sy beurt is sy beurt
[20:02] * inetpro still very happy to stick with Kubuntu
[20:03] <Kilos> i love it
[20:03] <inetpro> shuld perhaps try Mint one day but no real reason to do it
[20:03] <inetpro> should*
[20:03] <Kilos> spoilt my whole investigative adventure
[20:03] * inetpro almost ready to reboot
[20:03] <kulelu88> xfce till the end
[20:03] <inetpro> trying one little experiment
[20:04] <inetpro> installation is done... now copying /mnt/precise/home/me/ /mnt/vivid/home/
[20:05] <Kilos> lol
[20:05] <Kilos> do you use cp not rsync
[20:05] <inetpro> cp -pr
[20:06] <inetpro> but should perhaps have used tar
[20:07] <inetpro> just 3.8GB
[20:07] <Kilos> lol no archives
[20:13] <kulelu88> who uses python here?
[20:14] <smile> I dont have snake pets :)
[20:16] <inetpro> yay!
[20:16] <kulelu88> I found a lib for writing Python software for nokia phones
[20:17] <inetpro> rebooted and all looking brand new but files and settings have been preserved beautifully
[20:17] <Kilos> well done
[20:17] <ThatGraemeGuy> nokia symbian phones? nokia windows phones? nokia android phones?
[20:17] <kulelu88> ThatGraemeGuy: nokia symbian s60
[20:18] <ThatGraemeGuy> did you also find a time machine? :-p
[20:18] <kulelu88> 2010 ;)
[20:18] <kulelu88> I felt nostalgic for 2010 world cup
[20:18] <ThatGraemeGuy> because you're gonna need it to find someone who that'll be useful for
[20:18] <kulelu88> ThatGraemeGuy: me
[20:19] <kulelu88> and about 25,000,000 other people who still use nokia symbian s60
[20:19] <ThatGraemeGuy> lol
[20:20] <inetpro> uh... 25 million?
[20:20] <inetpro> serious!?
[20:20] <kulelu88> that's my low-bar estimate
[20:21] <inetpro> wow
[20:21] <kulelu88> outrageous
[20:21] <kulelu88> but ... not everyone has gone android yet
[20:21] <kulelu88> I know I wont
[20:21] <kulelu88> cause...
[20:21] <kulelu88> fvck Google :)
[20:21] <inetpro> ai!
[20:21] <kulelu88> if this was #ubuntu they'd hellban me
[20:22] <kulelu88> Kilos: you should become Ops for this channel
[20:22] <Kilos> why
[20:22] <Kilos> what did i miss
[20:22] <kulelu88> every channel has them
[20:23] <Kilos> so do we
[20:23] <Kilos> only we give peeps enough rope to totally hang themselves then ban then forever
[20:24] <kulelu88> how much rope have I used?
[20:24] <Kilos> only 1/4 of what you are allowed
[20:25] <kulelu88> I found you a gf, I swore google and ... only 2 things
[20:25] <kulelu88> make it 3: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eaSWaeacpbU trance ftw!
[20:25] <Kilos> i dont look at tube stuff
[20:25] <kulelu88> that 1 is for smile
[20:36] <smile> :-O for me?
[20:39] <inetpro> lol
[20:40] <Kilos> is 15.04 funny
[20:41] <inetpro> Kilos: no man, smile is funny
[20:41] <smile> :-D
[20:41] <Kilos> lol
[20:41] <inetpro> and kulelu88
[20:42] <Kilos> kids will be kids
[20:50] * inetpro falls off his chair
[20:50] <Kilos> ai!
[20:51] <inetpro> whatsapp web even works on Firefox now
[20:51] <inetpro> no need to install chrome even
[20:53] <kulelu88> you see this oom. he says dont call him oom but he calls everyone kids
[20:53] <kulelu88> tsk tsk
[20:53] <ThatGraemeGuy> ew, my puppet recipe is no good on mint :-/
[20:55] <Kilos> well kulelu88 my son is 40 this year
[20:58] <ThatGraemeGuy> night all
[20:58] <Kilos> night ThatGraemeGuy
[21:06] <inetpro> good night ThatGraemeGuy
[21:09] <kulelu88> you got grankids Kilos ?
[21:10] <Kilos> nope
[21:12] <kulelu88> not yet?
[21:12] <Kilos> nope son too full of nonsense to find a wife
[21:13] <kulelu88> ehh I thought you said he was married
[21:13] <Kilos> no\
[21:13] <Kilos> too busy with work
[21:57] <Kilos> night all. sleep tight. im going to start an iso wget and then crash
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2015-04-24-#kubuntu-devel
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[00:37] <Etriaph> OK, either I am totally misunderstanding this code, or I can find nothing wrong with it.
[00:37] * Etriaph makes tea.
[00:38] <Sho_> Etriaph: Which code?
[00:38] <Etriaph> dolphin
[00:38] <Etriaph> Can't save a shortcut.
[00:38] <Etriaph> But the code looks fine in source for the current package.
[00:39] <Etriaph> It would have to be a problem with KBookmarkManager
[00:42] <Sho_> KBookmarkManager is really creaky old code
[00:42] <Etriaph> It works every where else *but* dolphin
[00:43] <Etriaph> Kate and Plasma Desktop are two apps I have detailed places setup in.
[00:44] <Etriaph> Those places are in ~/.local/share/user-places.xbel
[00:44] <Etriaph> Assuming it's all managed by KBookmarkManager, they should end up there.
[00:44] <Etriaph> (I've also read that's where Dolphin stores it's places)
[00:45] <Sho_> I think so, yes
[00:46] <Sho_> You might want to try and catch d_ed on IRC, he debugged a tricky problem where KDE 4 and KF5 apps ended up clobbering each other's places data a while back
[00:46] <Sho_> And probably still has the code on his head a bit
[00:47] <Etriaph> Would he be in kde-devel?
[00:47] <Sho_> Etriaph: Yes, but he's also in here even
[00:47] <Sho_> Just probably soundly sleeping at this hour
[00:47] <Sho_> As I should be, really :)
[00:47] <Etriaph> Ah, OK. Is there an email address I can get him at?
[00:48] <Sho_> i'll pass it to you in private
[06:37] <ovidiu-florin> good morning world
[06:37] <ovidiu-florin> has anything bad happened since the release?
[06:40] <ovidiu-florin> I'll be leaving civilisation in a couple of hours and won't have electricity or signal (not even radio). I'm going in the mountains for a couple of days. Not (only) to relax, but to work there.
[06:40] <ovidiu-florin> I should be back by sometime sunday evening
[06:41] <ovidiu-florin> jose: knows the status of the webisite migration
[06:41] <ovidiu-florin> if it's done by monday, I'll do my best to finish in one day the pre-release checks and make it live
[06:41] <ovidiu-florin> oh, and add the new articles, that weren't added, update the download page, etc..
[06:42] <ovidiu-florin> I'll stil lbe reachable by phone, for 2-4 hours, till I loose signal. If it's important, send me an SMS, and I'll reply when I get it.
[06:43] <ovidiu-florin> or call
[06:43] * ovidiu-florin is packing
[06:52] <sitter> Riddell: I now repaired kwallet CI because you didn't :'<
[06:58] <sitter> Riddell: I see you gave bluez-qt an epoch. I am not quite sure why though
[07:25] * valorie is off for the weekend too, but to linuxfest northwest
[07:25] <valorie> have a good time, ovidiu-florin
[07:26] <valorie> I doubt connectivity will be good enough for irc
[07:58] <vip> hi ho
[08:05] <Riddell> sitter: because nowrep said it was staying in plasma
[08:05] <Riddell> sitter: but indeed it's a risk, maybe I should remove it
[08:05] <sitter> well now it is too late :P
[08:06] <sitter> Riddell: plase have a look at http://kci.pangea.pub/job/vivid_unstable_extra-cmake-modules/47/parsed_console/job/vivid_unstable_extra-cmake-modules/47/parsed_console/log_content.html#WARNING1
[08:06] <sitter> it appears you add the patch but it never was actually in a series file
[08:07] <sitter> at the same time it also appears that we have no build failure to do with the patch making me wonder whether the patch actually was necessary at some point
[08:20] <Riddell> sitter: how can I see the warning?
[08:21] <sitter> Riddell: pardon?
[08:21] <lordievader> Good morning.
[08:23] <Riddell> oh I see "KCI-W :: Patch kubuntu_qtwaylandscanner_binary.diff in VCS but not listed in debian/series file."
[08:23] <Riddell> sitter: I was searching for "warning" maybe relabel that?
[08:51] <sitter> qapt seems to suffer from misguided enum use Oo
[09:35] <soee> good morning
[10:01] <Riddell> https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/convergence-1505-snappy-desktop interesting
[10:02] <Riddell> so I guess they'll have a monolithic block of OS and anything else is a "snap" package
[10:02] <Riddell> which will make all the faff with backports and whatnot easier to separate the OS and the apps
[10:02] <Riddell> it also means we'll have trouble getting their software one day
[10:07] <soee> Riddell: https://launchpad.net/~kubuntu-ppa/+archive/ubuntu/next-staging/+packages seems like all are fine ?
[10:10] <Riddell> soee: http://qa.kubuntu.co.uk/plasma-status/build_status_5.3.0_vivid.html still some issues
[10:12] <soee> Riddell: why there are some 5.2.95 packages ?
[10:12] <Riddell> breeze-qt4 and oxygen-qt4 need fixed, dunno why the scripts don't do that
[10:34] <BluesKaj> Hiyas all
[10:43] <hyper_ch> hi there, I can't make bug reports at bugs.kde.org for plasma desktop
[10:45] <Riddell> hyper_ch: why not?
[10:45] <hyper_ch> Riddell: because the bug reporter takes me here: https://bugs.kde.org/enter_bug.cgi?format=guided&product=plasma&component=desktop&version=unknown --> Sorry, either the product plasma
[10:45] <hyper_ch> Sorry, either the product plasma does not exist or you aren't authorized to enter a bug into it.
[10:46] <Riddell> it's the plasmashell product
[10:46] <Riddell> which bug reporter?
[10:46] <hyper_ch> dolphin -> control -> help -> bug report -> plasma/desktop
[10:47] <hyper_ch> then I get taken to that url
[10:48] <Riddell> hmm, that's interesting
[10:49] <Riddell> I've never used that dialog before, I wonder where it gets its list from
[10:49] <hyper_ch> it uses automagic
[10:49] <hyper_ch> no idea... but it works for just about everything else
[10:49] <Riddell> I did rename plasma product to plasma4 in kde bugzilla in order to stop people confusing it but that was weeks ago
[10:49] <Riddell> and here it has quite successfully stopped you from confusing it since else you'd have reported on the wrong product
[10:50] <Riddell> but bit of a fail that it doesn't get you the right product
[10:50] <hyper_ch> well, 15.04 with kubuntu team 5.3 beta ppa
[10:50] <hyper_ch> or maybe you can help
[10:50] <Riddell> what's up?
[10:50] <hyper_ch> I have attached two external desktops to my notebook and turnd notebook screen off
[10:50] <hyper_ch> s/desktops/monitors/
[10:50] <kubotu> hyper_ch meant: "I have attached two external monitors to my notebook and turnd notebook screen off"
[10:50] <Riddell> sitter: did you have a friendly new way to make symbol files?
[10:51] <hyper_ch> on the secondary monitor I set to use folder view which works fine
[10:51] <hyper_ch> however on the primary monitor, with the kde taskbar, I did the same... but after reboot it gets resetted again
[10:54] <Riddell> hyper_ch: sounds like a plasma beastie indeed, report to https://bugs.kde.org/enter_bug.cgi?format=guided&product=plasmashell&version=unknown
[10:54] <hyper_ch> Riddell: thx
[10:54] <hyper_ch> desktop dashboard component?
[10:55] <Riddell> that'll do
[10:58] <hyper_ch> also there is a big big locale issue IMHO
[10:59] <Riddell> probably lots
[10:59] <Riddell> the locale stuff has changed quite a bit in plasma 5
[10:59] <Riddell> what's up?
[11:00] <hyper_ch> well, I want language in english, in kde as well as shell terminal but the other stuff should be swiss german (currency, number formatting, date....)
[11:00] <hyper_ch> I just can't achieve that
[11:01] <Blizzz> hyper_ch: had the same issue
[11:02] <sitter> Riddell: I do not know where
[11:02] <Riddell> um what other stuff?
[11:02] <Blizzz> hyper_ch: in regional settings, set Region to UK or US or whatever you want, but not German or Swiss
[11:02] <Riddell> you either set the language to english or not, there's no magic way of it knowing you want 1 app in german
[11:02] <hyper_ch> Blizzz: why not?
[11:02] <sitter> Riddell: http://paste.ubuntu.com/10877722/
[11:03] <hyper_ch> Riddell: I don't want the langauge in german
[11:03] <hyper_ch> I want the way numbers are displayed in swiss german
[11:03] <hyper_ch> or the currency
[11:03] <Blizzz> hyper_ch: then, activate "Detailed Settings" and switch everything to where you are/what you want
[11:03] <hyper_ch> or default paper size
[11:03] <hyper_ch> Blizzz: I can try that
[11:04] <Blizzz> hyper_ch: if you keep the region as DE|CH some LC settings, like "MESSAGES" will be set to german. and they are not controlled via the GUI
[11:05] <hyper_ch> and where do I set it for the shell?
[11:05] <hyper_ch> dpkg-reconfigure locales just regenerates stuff
[11:05] <Blizzz> hyper_ch: shell will be in english then
[11:05] <hyper_ch> on debian I am prompted what locale I want to install and which one should be used as default
[11:05] <KDDA> is this chat only for 15.10 now?
[11:05] <soee> ill do series of short videos ~30 sec about Plasma 5.3 features
[11:06] <Blizzz> hyper_ch: this is more fine-grained
[11:06] <hyper_ch> Blizzz: will try your suggestion
[11:06] <hyper_ch> (I got tons more issues...)
[11:08] <hyper_ch> (e.g. complaining something about diskfilter because of raid1, not accepting bt keyboard to enter luks/dm-crypt password)
[11:09] <Blizzz> hyper_ch: these are my regional settings: http://ibin.co/1zQZGoiPwc8m resulting in thise locale settings http://ibin.co/1zQZM7nF5AA1
[11:09] <Blizzz> you see the lovely mixture of DE and EN
[11:09] <hyper_ch> thx, will try that
[11:10] <Blizzz> hyper_ch: looks like LC_PAPER needs to be set in .profile though or so
[11:12] <hyper_ch> if only I'd life 20km to the east, then I'd have sym gbps internet.... it takes way too long to upload a video with just 4mbit
[11:21] <sitter> god I hate apt
[11:22] <sitter> package A has a new version, new version cannot be installed beacuse it is missing a dependency, A is not reported as held
[11:23] <sitter> in fact, deeeeeeeeeep down in the initial package cache apt considers this package held. once you tell the cache to upgrade though it simply looses its heldness
[11:23] <sitter> >.<
[11:54] <sitter> Riddell: it might be worth considering to sru http://quickgit.kde.org/?p=libqapt.git&a=commit&h=9b134aed5d09731f914195f4c04c34d53e4b4098 and http://quickgit.kde.org/?p=libqapt.git&a=commit&h=06fc79d435c3d906d651a60005f0a8f5572b696a they are save as they are only representational changes. as such they do however mark sure that the changesdialog in muon apps shows the right packages with the right states
[11:55] <sitter> http://i.imgur.com/Xhw3vmJ.jpg
[11:56] <Riddell> gotcha
[11:57] <KDDA> sitter: what font you using?
[11:57] <sitter> droid
[11:58] <sitter> except the terminal anyway
[11:58] <KDDA> looks good
[11:58] <sitter> my telepathy would like to disagree :P
[11:59] <sitter> http://i.imgur.com/oQcIBDF.jpg
[11:59] <BluesKaj> yeah droid's quite nicew , still like dejavu-sans best , it seems to agree with my astigmatism
[13:19] <sitter> Riddell: I think I need to rewrite merger soon :P
[13:20] <Riddell> sitter: what's merger?
[13:20] <Riddell> the ci bit that does merges I guess
[13:24] <sitter> yup
[13:24] <sitter> it's failing to submit to my standards of code quality
[13:24] <Riddell> can't to rewrite kubuntu-automation scripts into ci soon too? :)
[13:24] <sitter> even though it is already the third attempt at writing the code properly -.-
[13:24] <sitter> Riddell: soon is all very relative
[13:55] <sitter> Riddell, shadeslayer: merging is now 8 to 22 times faster
[13:55] <ScottK> Not 23?
[13:56] <sitter> no!
[13:56] <ScottK> 22 is still pretty good.
[13:56] <ScottK> Generally I'm impressed if something goes to 11.
[13:56] <ScottK> </spinal tap>
[13:56] <sitter> xD
[13:57] <Riddell> :)
[14:13] <murthy> Can anyone give me some info about kubuntu stand on snappy?
[14:13] <shadeslayer> heh
[14:13] <shadeslayer> murthy: I'd like to investigate it in a few weeks
[14:13] <murthy> shadeslayer: Interesting enough?
[14:13] <shadeslayer> yeah
[14:14] <murthy> shadeslayer: what about the teams stand?
[14:14] <murthy> *team's
[14:14] <shadeslayer> murthy: hasn't been discussed
[14:14] <murthy> right
[14:14] <shadeslayer> I think everyone's waiting for details
[14:14] <murthy> ya I am one of them
[14:15] <murthy> Ok you guys put a blog on that
[14:17] <shadeslayer> murthy: just attend the UOS sessions
[14:21] <murthy> ok will do
[15:14] <soee> https://plus.google.com/103390968466499853722/posts/9q7rBBJYAqp
[15:20] <shadeslayer> pft
[15:20] <ScottK> murthy: My personal view is that one of the main Ubuntu project strengths is it's Debian heritage. Once one goes snappy, that's not really true anymore.
[15:21] <ScottK> soee: All four of his followers will be sad to read that.
[15:22] <BluesKaj> soee, kubuntu 15.04 can't make everyone happy :)
[15:22] <soee> :)
[15:23] <BluesKaj> the problem is he's right about the theme settings, miost of my choices didn't install at all or didn't work when applied
[15:24] <shadeslayer> not really a Plasma 5 issue is it
[15:24] <shadeslayer> talk to theme authors to get it fixed
[15:24] <ScottK> Right, 15.04 is a transitional KDE4 -> Plasma 5 release.
[15:24] <ScottK> It's not surprising there are some unresolved integration issues.
[15:24] <soee> well for me the breeze dark is cool enough :) no need for extra themes
[15:41] <yuriy> Congrats on another release guys!
[15:42] <yuriy> I haven't tried Plasma 5 yet so I'm really looking forward to trying it
[15:43] <soee> ;]
[15:54] <lordievader> Is it normal for an upgrade (14.10 -> 15.04 (amd64)) to not have plasma-desktop installed?
[15:55] <Riddell> lordievader: nope
[15:55] <BluesKaj> it installed here with do-release-upgrade from 14.10 to 15.04 , lordievader
[15:55] <lordievader> Hmm, qua-non in #kubuntu didn't have it installed.
[15:56] <Etriaph> There were some folks yesterday having issues with an upgrade path.
[16:00] <BluesKaj> lordievader, he upgraded from a minimal install ,but that shouldn't have made a differnce
[16:00] <lordievader> Riddell: Does ^ that matter?
[16:09] <Riddell> lordievader: probably, best install it
[16:12] <soee> ok time to migrate my parents to Vivid ~.~
[16:48] <sgclark> shiny new 15.04 installed on my laptop to show off this weekend :)
[16:48] <sgclark> see you tonight valorie
[16:52] <soee> :)
[19:14] <ahoneybun> Riddell: yofel sgclark http://www.webupd8.org/2015/04/ubuntu-desktop-to-eventually-switch-to.html
[19:17] <yofel> yeah, saw the news, won't comment on it though before I hear more about it at UOS
[19:24] <genii> I'm not sure this is a Good Idea
[19:24] <soee> does it make our live harder or easier ?
[19:26] <yofel> well, from what I know about it, it would be additional work for us - but might make life easier to users.
[19:27] <yofel> the way we currently manage packages is fairly good, but breaking something is far too easy
[19:28] <soee> some other distro uses this ot it is something new ?
[19:30] <genii> I've been in #snappy since it was announced and I see nothing but problems they are having in there. But of course everything is difficult at the beginning.
[19:32] <yofel> snappy is somewhat new, the idea not. Image based updates are pretty much standard on phones and application containers are becoming pretty common
[20:12] <ScottK> soee_: It's an Ubuntu only thing, although I've seen a similar thing announced from Fedora.
[20:40] <soee_> ScottK: thanks
[21:18] <mparillo> Is anybody testing Plasma 5.2.95 in a VM (ideally VMPlayer). Upstream says it is likely our bug. https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=346467
[22:03] <ahoneybun> yofel: https://plus.google.com/105024692216404165455/posts/FVAq4oBDdNt
[22:03] <ahoneybun> lots of good info
[22:08] <ahoneybun> what are the system requirements?
[22:10] <ahoneybun> Riddell: do you know the scripts used to pull the the docs and upload to the docs.kubuntu site?
[22:11] <ahoneybun> that is going to be my project for akademy
[22:11] <ahoneybun> getting http://docs.kubuntu.org/ looking good
[22:24] <Riddell> ahoneybun: it's just static html as I remember
[22:24] <Riddell> so it's just a case of kioclient5 help:/kubuntu/foo
[22:24] <Riddell> and upload load
[22:24] <ahoneybun> your speaking spanish to me man
[22:25] <ahoneybun> help:/kubuntu/kubuntu-docs?
[22:25] <Riddell> could be
[22:25] <ahoneybun> could css be loaded as well
[22:25] <ahoneybun> ?
[22:26] <soee> hmm i have created bootble usb with vivid but it wont start on my partents pc :|
[22:29] <Riddell> it'll need css added
[22:30] <Riddell> kioclient5 cp help:/kubuntu/index.html .
[22:37] <ahoneybun> which will do?
[22:41] <Riddell> infact you can use meinproc directory on the .docbook file in the source
[22:41] <Riddell> meinproc5
[22:41] <ahoneybun> spanish again lo
[22:43] <ahoneybun> talking about /usr/share/doc/HTML/en/kubuntu/index.html right?
[22:47] <Riddell> there is no /usr/share/doc/HTML/en/kubuntu/index.html not in the kubuntu-docs package
[22:47] <Riddell> it just includes a .docbook file
[22:50] <ahoneybun> yea
[22:50] * ahoneybun grabs source
[22:51] <ahoneybun> so the -docs package is the key to the docs site?
[22:52] <Riddell> yeah it's just the -docs package converted to html
[22:52] <ahoneybun> not pulled right from the userbase site?
[22:52] <ahoneybun> userbase site -> -docs -> docs site
[22:55] <Riddell> yeah
[22:56] <ahoneybun> ok
[22:58] <ahoneybun> so make up a css and include it in the -docs package?
[22:59] <Riddell> nah run meinproc5 on the .docbook file that'll give .html files
[22:59] <Riddell> then replace the help:/ urls in those .html files with urls to somewhere with the .css files
[23:00] <Riddell> which you can get from /usr/share/doc/kde/HTML/en/common/
[23:10] <ahoneybun> oh boy
[23:11] <ahoneybun> nothing good
[23:11] <ahoneybun> http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/10882078/
[23:12] <ahoneybun> wait kde/?
[23:12] <ahoneybun> thats a old dirc
[23:17] <Riddell> ok then in /usr/share/doc/HTML/en/kdoctools5-common
[23:17] * Riddell snoozes
[23:18] <darthanubis> http://picpaste.com/snapshot6-HnYUdtkt.png
[23:18] <darthanubis> I can't get this notice to disappear
[23:18] <darthanubis> with the package installed or without it
[23:19] <darthanubis> I install the package from cmdline accept all agreements, it downloads the files and installs without a hitch
[23:19] <darthanubis> yet the daemon keeps saying there are more packages to download
[23:20] <darthanubis> It has to be something simple that can fix this?
[23:21] <genii> darthanubis: After you manually installed it, have you logged out and back in again?
[23:21] <darthanubis> yes, that when the notice appears
[23:21] <darthanubis> about 5 mins after relogin
[23:22] <darthanubis> where is the daemon getting it's erroneous information?
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[00:03] <astroo-> Ubuntu 15.04 (Vivid Vervet) http://releases.ubuntu.com/15.04/
[00:31] <Ticokis> Olá, pessoal. Estou precisando muito da ajuda de vocês, estou com um problema a semanas e não encontro soluções.
[00:32] <astroo-> ola
[00:33] <astroo-> poe sempre a duvida
[00:34] <Ticokis> A 2 meses atrás tentei instalar o Unity no meu Ubuntu e não deu muito certo. Desisti, mas desde então, de tempo em tempo, aparece uma janela que sobrepõe qualquer uma em que eu esteja, Seja vendo um video, game, programando... A Janela só exibe "wine-unity3d-installe" como se ainda estivesse tentando instalar o Unity. Poderia me ajudar.
[00:34] <Ticokis> Perdão. Não sabia.
[00:36] <astroo-> saiu hoje a versao 15
[00:38] <Ticokis> Alguém sabe como solucionar esse erro? Desde já agradeço.
[00:39] <astroo-> da sempre uns 15 minutos pela possivel resposta de alguem
[00:40] <Romildo_Vitorino> Ticokis, nao entendi o seu problema. Vc diz que tentou instalar o unity no ubuntu, porem desde a versao 11.10 que o unity é a interface padrao do ubuntu
[00:41] <Ticokis> Olá, Romildo. Não tentei instalr o Unity 3D. O modelador, para um projeto de um game, que estava trabalhando.
[00:43] <Ticokis> Pesquisei esse erro, mas não encontro em páginas BR. E mesmo assim, não encontrei solução.
[00:44] <Ticokis> Eu já desinstalei tudo referente ao Unity 3D. Mas continua surgindo essa janela.
[00:52] <Romildo_Vitorino> Ticokis, tava dando uma olhada na web e tambem nao achei nada que pudesse ajudar. tentou instalar com o playonlinux? pode ser que funcione melhor que com o wine
[00:53] <Dumb> anyone ?
[00:54] <astroo-> eu sempre
[00:54] <Romildo_Vitorino> astroo- esta em todas. kkkk
[00:55] <Ticokis> Olha, Romildo, na verdade, eu estou em outra sessão do Projeto. Não se faz mais necessário o uso do Unity 3D para mim, na verdade eu apenas queria que essa janela deixasse de ser exibida a cada 10/15min,,, Realmente atrapalha muito.
[00:55] <Dumb> O portuga eh demais kkkkk
[00:58] <Romildo_Vitorino> Ticokis, nao costumo usar programas com o wine, dou sempre preferencia a programas nativos da plataforma. Voce verificou se ficaram referencias ao programa na sua pasta de usuario, na pasta do wine, etc? pode ser que removendo esses arquivos o problema desapareça. configure pra exibir os arquivos ocultos e verifique em sua pasta de usuario.
[01:00] <Ticokis> Cara, já removi o WIne e tudo, Mas ainda assim continua exibindo.
[01:01] <Romildo_Vitorino> tente ver no gerenciador de processos o processo responsavel pelo programa ao exibir a janela
[01:02] <Ticokis> Não da também, porque ele trava tudo enquanto exibe essa janela. E depois de uns 20 segundos ela desaparece e o sistema volta ao normal.
[01:03] <Romildo_Vitorino> é. vc arrumou um problemao
[01:05] <Ticokis> Entendo. Mesmo assim, muito obrigado, pela disposição.
[01:05] <Ticokis> Caso, encontre solução, posto aqui.
[01:05] <Ticokis> Abração.
[01:16] <Dead_Thinker> Alguém usa flux (fluxgui) aqui?
[01:17] <Dead_Thinker> https://justgetflux.com/linux.html
[01:17] <Dead_Thinker> o repositorio n está funcionando, e após compilar, dá erro na execução
[01:20] <Dead_Thinker> Esquece, achei o https://github.com/jonls/redshift/ :)
[02:25] <PSKOL> Ae galera
[02:25] <barna> blz?
[02:26] <PSKOL> Ae barna blz
[02:27] <astroo-> ola
[02:28] <PSKOL> Opa
[02:32] <voyeur> hello people
[02:33] <xGrind> alguem usando a nova versao do ubuntu?
[02:33] <astroo-> e dar sempre algum problema que da para os outros daqui saberem
[02:34] <PSKOL> Eu
[02:35] <PSKOL> Xubuntu 15.04
[02:38] <barna> eu sempre dando voltas e acabando no ubuntustudio......
[02:39] <Rudolf> barna: deus te proteja
[02:39] <PSKOL> Nunca usei esse ai
[02:41] <barna> pq Rudolf ?
[02:51] <astroo-> ciao pessoal
[02:56] <PSKOL> Flw
[02:56] <astroo-> ate
[03:00] <loser> Alguem em casa ?
[03:02] <astroo-> eu sempre mas de saida
[03:03] <loser> astroo-: ainda nao foi dormir portuga...kkkkk
[03:03] <astroo-> agora
[03:04] <loser> Qts anos vc tem portuga ?
[03:04] <astroo-> mas deve estar pessoal agora
[03:04] <astroo-> 48
[03:04] <loser> astroo-: nossa portuga, vc eh velho ja hein
[03:04] <astroo-> sim...
[03:05] <loser> Teve uns shows bons de rock por ai ?
[03:05] <loser> astroo-: vc pegou os anos 90, que foram os melhores
[03:05] <astroo-> tem sempre em geral
[03:06] <astroo-> 80 foi melhor
[03:06] <astroo-> mais agora coisa?
[03:07] <loser> astroo-: ???
[03:07] <astroo-> vou embora
[03:08] <loser> Blz portuga, boa noite ai :)
[03:08] <astroo-> ate
[03:08] <loser> PSKOL: cara ainda nao consegui configura minha rede aqui
[03:08] <astroo-> hoje saiu a versao 15 deve ficar animado
[03:09] <PSKOL> No meu note ta file
[03:09] <PSKOL> Faz 1 mes q to usando o 15
[03:10] <PSKOL> loser, q rede
[03:10] <loser> PSKOL: a do virtualbox cara
[03:10] <PSKOL> Ah
[03:11] <loser> em host-only eu eu nao consigo sakar
[04:38] <barna> loser, ta ai ainda?
[13:52] <mirqui> bom dia :)
[13:52] <lieber> dia
[13:54] <mirqui> blza , tudo bem :)?
[14:15] <MarconM> dia
[14:15] <MarconM> =D
[14:18] <jairo> bom dia
[14:19] <jairo> bom dia como faco para instalar o ubuntu no meu pc dando boot pelo pendrive
[15:05] <neto> alguem
[15:08] <hggdh> neto: mais fácil simplesmente perguntar
[15:08] <neto> (initframs)
[15:09] <neto> ja reinstalei o ubuntu e nada
[15:09] <neto> to pelo live cd
[15:09] <neto> meu windows tbm nao recupera
[15:29] <mirqui> boa tarde :)
[15:29] <neto> (initramfs) Busy Box
[15:43] <neto> iai
[15:44] <mirqui> blza :) ?
[15:48] <neto> manja dos paranaue
[15:48] <mirqui> ?? que é isso?
[15:53] <neto> pode ajudar
[15:53] <mirqui> no que?
[15:55] <neto> (initframs) busybox
[15:56] <neto> dual boot nenhum dos dois pega
[15:56] <neto> nem ubuntu nem w7
[15:56] <neto> ja tentei recuperacao dos dois e nada
[15:56] <mirqui> reinstala o windows e depois o ubuntu
[15:56] <mirqui> ai não tem erro
[15:57] <neto> onde consigo um iso do w7 ultimate
[15:57] <neto> sem virus
[15:57] <mirqui> ahaha como vou saber
[15:57] <neto> site seguro
[15:57] <mirqui> a distro do ubuntu é grátis
[15:58] <mirqui> não conheço nenhum
[15:58] <neto> bls
[16:38] <jairo> boa tarde não consigo instalar o ubuntu via usb alguem poderia me ajudar
[16:39] <mirqui> qual mensagem aparece , ou não aparece nada?
[16:39] <jairo> missing algo mais que não lembro
[16:40] <mirqui> sua mídia está íntegra?
[16:40] <jairo> na verdade baixei no site da ubunto e coloquei no pendrive
[16:41] <mirqui> sim , mas o pendrive foi formatado?
[16:41] <jairo> aparece missing operating system
[16:41] <jairo> sim foi formatado em fat 32
[16:42] <mirqui> mas isso é para windows , não?
[16:42] <jairo> na opção fala que fat 32
[16:43] <mirqui> acho que esta formatação é para o windows
[16:43] <mirqui> tenta o elfon
[16:43] <mirqui> ele é avançado no linux
[16:44] <mirqui> o lieber tbm
[16:44] <jairo> vou formata dinovo
[16:44] <mirqui> o hggdh tbm é avançado
[16:44] <mirqui> tenta um programa para linux
[16:45] <mirqui> tem um mas não lenbro qual
[16:45] <mirqui> acho que está ai seu erro
[16:45] <mirqui> espera um pouco
[16:45] <jairo> universal usb
[16:46] <jairo> eu ja tentei mais não consegi tbm
[16:46] <Elfon> jairo: vc tem criar um pendrive bootáve
[16:46] <Elfon> bootável...não é só copiar não
[16:46] <Elfon> vc usou o linux ou windows pra gravar o pen drive?
[16:46] <jairo> o windows
[16:49] <Elfon> jairo: o recomendável é que se baixe a iso (recomendo por torrent pra evitar erros)...e use um programa como live usb creator, iso to usb, etc
[16:49] <mirqui> http://www.baixaki.com.br/download/lili-usb-creator.htm
[16:49] <Elfon> e posteriormente não esquecer de mudar a ordem do boot no pc para usb como primeiro no boot
[16:49] <mirqui> ou o lili , ele tbm faz tudo
[16:49] <Elfon> sim
[16:50] <Elfon> mas tem q configurar o pc pra lê a usb antes do hd
[16:50] <jairo> ja ta configurado ja
[16:50] <jairo> so não consigo roda pelo usb
[16:50] <mirqui> vc fez o pendrive bootavel?
[16:51] <jairo> acho q não
[16:51] <mirqui> então tem que fazer
[16:51] <mirqui> tenta o lili , ele faz tudo
[16:52] <mirqui> formata , pega a imagem iso e grava
[16:52] <mirqui> depois é só instalar no pc
[16:55] <jairo> nossa não consigo roda esse lili em nenhum pc meu os antivirus não deixa
[16:55] <mirqui> mas virus não é
[16:55] <Elfon> jairo: http://www.tecmundo.com.br/selecao/15797-6-programas-para-criar-pendrives-bootaveis.htm
[16:55] <Elfon> algum deve funcionar
[16:56] <jairo> blz
[16:56] <Elfon> jairo: se nao funfar...queima a iso num dvd :)
[16:56] <mirqui> http://www.baixaki.com.br/download/liveusb-install.htm
[16:56] <Elfon> se não funcionar assim tb...procura uma igreja :)
[16:56] <mirqui> tens um dvd ?
[16:56] <jairo> kkkkkkkkkkkkk
[16:57] <jairo> desativei meu antivirus vamos ver se vai
[16:57] <mirqui> jairo , tens um dvd?
[16:57] <jairo> no caso tenho que compra um
[16:58] <mirqui> é bem mais fácil que o pendrive
[16:58] <hggdh> unetbootin também cria USBs bootable
[16:58] <mirqui> vc só grava a imagem iso , e por padrão do pc o drive roda tranquilo
[16:59] <jairo> e so grava a imagem que baixeiii e isso
[16:59] <jairo> aquela do site da ubuntu
[16:59] <mirqui> sim, , ela tem a extenção .iso
[17:00] <mirqui> vc só grava ela no dvd ou pendrive
[17:00] <Elfon> jairo: escolher uma opção do tipo: "Gravar imagem no cd/dvd..." se for queimar em um disco
[17:01] <mirqui> qual programa vc usa ?
[17:01] <mirqui> para gravar cd\dvd?
[17:01] <jairo> virtual clone
[17:02] <mirqui> não conheço , mas deve ter a opção gravar imagem iso , vai nela
[17:04] <jairo> manoh ta quase me dando um avc
[17:04] <jairo> de tanto pensar
[17:05] <mirqui> ahaha calma , é tranquilo
[17:05] <mirqui> vamos por partes como diz o açougueiro :)
[17:05] <mirqui> o dvd é bem mais tranquilo
[17:06] <mirqui> é só pegart a imagem que vc pegou no site do ubuntu e gravar no dvd
[17:06] <mirqui> usando gravar imagem iso , é simples
[17:06] <mirqui> bem mais fácil que o9 pendrive
[17:06] <jairo> baixei um tal de linux live
[17:06] <jairo> da pra fazer
[17:06] <mirqui> não conheço , espera
[17:07] <Elfon> avc de tanto pensar...não conhecia essa....kkkkkkkk
[17:08] <mirqui> tenta este , este já usei
[17:08] <mirqui> http://www.baixaki.com.br/download/astroburn-lite.htm
[17:09] <lieber> oi oi
[17:10] <lieber> já conseguiram?
[17:10] <jairo> ta osso
[17:10] <lieber> jairo, já tentou o unetbootin?
[17:10] <lieber> ele grava a iso na usb
[17:10] <lieber> sem erro
[17:10] <lieber> (exceto arch e derivados)
[17:11] <jairo> tou tentando o astroburn
[17:11] <lieber> não conheço
[17:11] <mirqui> é no caso de gravar num dvd
[17:12] <mirqui> tem duas abas somente , fácil de usar
[17:12] <lieber> dvd não é necessário
[17:12] <lieber> mas dá tb
[17:12] <lieber> caso não tenha usb
[17:12] <Elfon> jairo: a culpa não é tua...é do Windows :) ...no linux é mais fácil que mamão com açúcar :)
[17:12] <lieber> pendrive*
[17:13] <jairo> e
[17:18] <jairo> galera muito obrigado nao consegui acho q vou levar em um tecnico valeu
[17:18] <mirqui> não é possivel
[17:18] <mirqui> que sistema op , vc tem?
[17:19] <jairo> e serio para min fazer o cd tenho que compra um
[17:19] <jairo> windos 7
[17:19] <mirqui> compra um dvd
[17:19] <jairo> proficional
[17:19] <lieber> tem segredo nao jo
[17:19] <lieber> vc deve estar fazendo coisa errada ae
[17:19] <lieber> instala o unetbootin, a iso do ubuntu e grava no pendrive
[17:19] <lieber> não tem erro
[17:19] <mirqui> win 7 é bom de fazer dual boot ou instalar o ubuntu
[17:19] <jairo> vou compra o cd la e tentar pelo astroburn
[17:20] <mirqui> o astroburn o antivirus não detecta como virus
[17:20] <Elfon> jairo: vai desistir por R$ 1,00?
[17:21] <mirqui> no caso do lili ele acusou mas é faloso positivo
[17:21] <jairo> no cd eu gravo ele em UDF ou Em iso9660+joliet
[17:21] <mirqui> falso
[17:21] <mirqui> ahaha que é iso velho?
[17:22] <mirqui> dvd vc somente grava imagem \ imagem iso
[17:22] <jairo> ta no astro burn assim
[17:22] <mirqui> depois põe no drive e instala o ubuntu
[17:22] <mirqui> sim
[17:22] <mirqui> tem duas abas
[17:23] <mirqui> uma é para gravar cd cd dados , dvd , etc
[17:23] <mirqui> a outra é imagem ,
[17:23] <mirqui> lá vc grava a imagem iso
[17:26] <jairo> vou compra o cd e ja volto
[17:26] <mirqui> e boa sorte :)
[17:27] <jairo> vlw
[17:27] <jairo> qualquer coisa eu volto kkk
[17:28] <mirqui> está certo ahah
[17:56] <dourado7> ola pessoal sou novo no sistema linux instalei o ubuntu 15.4 no meu not,gostaria de saber como coloco o icone do youtube na area de trabalho
[20:40] <Nubeloco> Boa tarde
[20:41] <Nubeloco> estou usando a um mes o ubuntu mate 14.10
[20:42] <Nubeloco> tem alguma coisa que posso fazer para abrir arquivos .cdr corretamente?
[20:45] <astroo-> ola pessoal
[20:47] <Rudolf> Nubeloco: corel drawn é windows
[20:48] <Rudolf> Nubeloco: no mááááximo isso: http://www.ubuntudicas.com.br/blog/2010/03/sk1-o-coreldraw-e-ilustrator-para-linux/
[20:50] <nuno_nunes> boa noite
[20:51] <Rudolf> noooite
[20:52] <nuno_nunes> isto anda calmo
[20:52] <astroo-> ola
[20:53] <Nubeloco> Valeu Rudolf, abro aqui com libre draw, só que fica sem poder mexer no arquivo... vou ver o seu link
[21:16] <Dead_Thinker> Boa noite :)
[21:16] <astroo-> ola
[21:16] <Dead_Thinker> Alguém usa algum client desktop pra Evernote no linux? Recomendam qual? NixNote, Everpad, etc
[21:18] <hggdh> Dead_Thinker: https://blog.udemy.com/evernote-for-linux/
[21:20] <Dead_Thinker> ops, malz, internet oscilou aqui
[21:21] <Dead_Thinker> hggdh: obrigado, eu já vi esse links e vários outros, mas queria uma opinião
[21:21] <Dead_Thinker> Já usei o NixNote, quando era outro nome, anos atrás, ele tem mais commits que o Everpad
[21:37] <hggdh> Dead_Thinker: lamento, não uso evernote
[21:38] <Dead_Thinker> hggdh: vlw ;)
[21:45] <Rudolf> eu uso o remember de the milk
[21:46] <hggdh> Rudolf: minha esposa também; vi-me, no entanto, usando mais o Google keep
[21:46] <Rudolf> confesso que nao conheço
[21:49] <Rudolf> vendo
[21:50] <hggdh> é similar ao remember the milk, ou evernote
[21:52] <hggdh> Rudolf: alias -- não sei se usas coisas da física, mas este site tem uns livros fantásticos (considerando *toda* a física como física de movimentos, mas ainda assim)
[21:52] <hggdh> http://motionmountain.net/
[21:53] <Rudolf> ver
[22:06] <Rudolf> hggdh: que massa hein!
[23:02] <hggdh> Rudolf: pois é... enviei o link para o meu irmão, qu dá, de tempos em tempos, aulas de física (ultimamente, acho, apenas termodinamica), e ele também gostou
[23:42] <asdf4567899> qual o kernel dessa nova versão do ubuntu ?
[23:42] <asdf4567899> 15.04 ?
[23:44] <Daekdroom> asdf4567899, 3.19
[23:44] <asdf4567899> beleza valeu
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2015-04-24-#ubuntu-locoteams
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[05:06] <Kilos> greetings loco peeps
[07:18] <dholbach> good morning
[07:18] <Kilos> morning dholbach
[07:20] <dholbach> hi Kilos
[08:39] <elacheche> hi dholbach
[08:40] <dholbach> hey elacheche
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2015-04-24-#ubuntu-desktop
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[06:42] <yoavst> I've got a question about Ubuntu-make
[06:42] <yoavst> If I've already got an installation of android studio & IDEA & Android SDK. Is it useful?
[08:16] <larsu> morning!
[08:22] <pitti> hey larsu!
[08:22] <larsu> morning pitti!
[08:28] <Laney> hey!
[08:41] <seb128> robert_ancell,
[08:41] <seb128> https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/convergence-1505-snappy-desktop
[08:41] <seb128> https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/convergence-1505-unity-8-as-default-desktop
[08:41] <seb128> https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/convergence-1505-converged-desktop-apps
[08:41] <seb128> https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/convergence-1505-supporting-legacy-apps
[09:56] <Laney> mardy: What's the status of the empathy update?
[09:57] <Laney> /account-plugins/whatever
[10:29] <mardy> Laney: it landed in the overlay ppa, it seemed to behave as expected
[10:31] <Laney> mardy: we need to disable the services in ubuntu too
[10:31] <Laney> since they are going away
[10:34] <FJKong> Trevinho: hey
[10:39] <Trevinho> FJKong: hey
[10:39] <FJKong> Trevinho: how can I see the debug info of scope in unity7
[10:47] <Trevinho> FJKong: mh, depends on the scope
[10:47] <Trevinho> FJKong: there's a libunity tool for launching them
[10:47] <Trevinho> FJKong: otherwise, you can launch one of the unity-lens-* binary
[10:50] <FJKong> Trevinho: it is write by python
[10:50] <FJKong> %s/write/written
[10:53] <Trevinho> FJKong: by installing libunity-tools, you can run libunity-tool and launch the scope with it
[10:53] <Trevinho> FJKong: libunity-tool -g for the UI
[11:04] <FJKong> Trevinho: like this? libunity-tool -g /usr/share/unity-scopes/devhelp
[11:04] <FJKong> Trevinho: then I need to input name and path?
[11:05] <Trevinho> FJKong: no, you just need to run the devhelp scope in a terminal, then the UI by itself... Using that tool you should be able to connect to its bus and to what you want
[11:16] <FJKong> Trevinho: ok, I think I know how to play with it, another question : if there is some syntax err in python file, can this way work ?
[11:17] <Trevinho> FJKong: well, in that case when you run the file the python interpreter will warn you
[11:24] <FJKong> Trevinho: cool, thanks so mu...ch
[11:24] <FJKong> Trevinho: I am playing with it now
[11:31] <Trevinho> FJKong: cool
[11:33] <popey> robert_ancell: https://code.launchpad.net/~hansueli-burri/+junk/Mastermind
[11:42] <popey> robert_ancell: http://sturmflut.github.io/ubuntu/touch/2015/02/15/ubuntu-touch-app-wishlist/
[13:31] <didrocks> won on gmaps's prediction by 20 minutes \o/
[13:32] <didrocks> then, spent the same time just to get to the eurostar lobby
[13:39] <Laney> hey didrocks
[14:07] <seb128> robert_ancell, http://doc.qt.io/qt-5/qml-qtquick-layouts-layout.html#fillWidth-attached-prop
[15:35] <didrocks> hey slackers! :)
[15:36] <Laney> can't talk, out partying
[15:36] <didrocks> heh
[15:36] <didrocks> I would have bet it!
[15:36] <didrocks> as soon as I'm back in gold old France, "mouse danses…"
[15:40] <happyaron> lol
[15:51] <seb128> hey didrocks1
[15:51] <seb128> didrocks1 got upgraded to 1
[15:52] <Laney> didrocks++
[15:52] <didrocks1> yeah, there has been an ABI break :p
[15:52] <didrocks1> so starting proper versioning
[15:53] <didrocks1> or we can say "let's mark him stable" :)
[15:53] <Laney> No-change rebuild against new didrocks
[15:53] <didrocks1> :p
[15:53] <didrocks1> I'm impressed by SNCF station wifi
[15:53] <didrocks1> it's quite good
[15:54] <didrocks1> and I'm just in front of the station, not inside
[15:54] <didrocks1> (of course, for the clichee, I can hear some accordeon)
[15:55] <ogra_> didrocks1, any pantomime in sight ?
[15:55] <didrocks1> ogra_: no, its too far from the city :)
[15:56] <ogra_> then it is only half a clichee :)
[15:56] <didrocks1> heh, fair enough!
[15:57] <Laney> have you seen this man? http://www.ralphsteadmanartcollection.com/images/portfolio/home/frenchman-on-bike.jpg
[15:58] <didrocks1> Laney: "those", you meant, right? :)
[15:59] <didrocks1> actually, the train is maybe already arrived (as it's the starting station), let me see if I can get in and be more comfortable (meaning, not in a windy place)… bbl!
[16:11] <didrocks> settled!
[16:13] <Laney> ^_^
[16:16] <ogra_> and degraded by 1
[16:16] <didrocks> ogra_: rollbacked after a regression detected!
[16:16] <ogra_> +1
[16:49] * Sweet5hark waves from heathrow.
[16:57] <Sweet5hark> seb128, all: for those of you leaving tomorrow -- it seems heathrow express has track maintenance tomorrow and will leave only every 30 minutes, not every 15 minutes. In case some of you plan with a tight schedule ...
[16:57] <seb128> Sweet5hark, thanks
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2015-04-24-#xubuntu-devel
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[00:04] <Unit193> OvenWerks: Hrm, are you the random downloading the core ISO? If so, we're about to do another rebuild (so you'll be able to zsync though.)
[00:05] <bluesabre> Unit193 is a creepy download stalker :)
[00:05] <krytarik> lol
[00:05] <Unit193> bluesabre: #ubuntustudio-devel, mate.
[00:07] <bluesabre> tis a silly place
[00:07] <bluesabre> that I should be in more frequently
[00:27] <ochosi> Unit193: do we have some install instructions or docs for it in place?
[00:27] <ochosi> as soon as we do, i'll sure as hell gonna socialize it :)
[00:28] <ochosi> bluesabre: you mean camelot?
[00:28] <Unit193> ochosi: mini.iso is on the tracker, and -core install instructions are the same as the desktop.
[00:28] <Unit193> Wait for the final rebuild?
[00:29] <ochosi> sure
[00:29] <ochosi> anyway tonight i'm too tired, let's finalize this tomorrow
[00:29] <ochosi> also, let's talk to elfy
[00:32] <bluesabre> :)
[02:15] <OvenWerks> Unit193: Thanks ok.
[02:16] <Unit193> It'll work fine as-is, but slight build changes.
[03:15] <Unit193> krtarik: OK I think I'm happier with it. Slight roadbump in the fix, but all should be good.
[05:02] <OvenWerks> Unit193: zsync is not happy trying to dl core
[05:02] <Unit193> Oh?
[05:02] <OvenWerks> failed to retrieve from xubuntu-core-15.04-amd64.iso
[05:02] <OvenWerks> I am not sure if there is a trick to deal with https
[05:03] <Unit193> zsync http://unit193.net/xubuntu/xubuntu-core-15.04-amd64.iso.zsync or you can use the same zsync-curl package.
[05:04] <OvenWerks> Ok that works.
[06:47] <elfy> morning
[06:51] <astraljava> o/
[06:51] <Unit193> Howdy.
[06:51] <Unit193> elfy: Got enough pings in scrollback?
[06:52] <elfy> yep I did
[06:52] <elfy> speed reading catches the gist of it :)
[06:52] <elfy> I'm all for -core being more official
[06:53] <elfy> as far as testing goes - that's kind of immaterial - imo we shouldn't not do THIS just because we've got few testers
[06:53] <elfy> I would have to assume the ones we DO have would test what we threw their way
[06:54] <Unit193> No, we should not do it because it'd be me directly adding more to the testing load. :P
[06:54] <elfy> I'll be doing the 'how did testing go' mail to the list soon - let's see what response we get from that
[06:54] <elfy> and as Unit193 said - I'd be cool with -core being pushed at milestones only
[06:55] <elfy> Unit193: lol
[07:16] <elfy> also - if we are going to push it then the next cycle is the one to do it during, I'd not be soSearch Results blasé during the following LTS one
[07:17] <elfy> stupid middle mouse button
[08:25] <Unit193> slickymasterWork: zsync before you use the image, btw.
[08:25] <slickymasterWork> ok Unit193
[08:30] <ochosi> elfy: that sounds pretty good to me!
[08:31] <ochosi> so maybe rather than announcing the image for 15.04 on xu.org, we could announce that there will be images throughout 15.10 and that we want ppl to do milestone testing
[08:32] <ochosi> actually i'm wondering whether smoketests would be enough for -core
[08:32] <ochosi> since most (or all?) of the rest is tested in -desktop anyway
[08:34] <elfy> ochosi: that sounds and appears logical
[08:34] <Unit193> Awwwh. :(
[08:51] <ochosi> Unit193: what would you have preferred
[08:54] <Unit193> Well, kind of kidding, but..
[09:17] <ochosi> Unit193: right, still, please finish your sentences :)
[09:17] <elfy> heh
[09:19] <Unit193> Eh, well kind of exists now, but meh.
[09:40] <ochosi> Unit193: yeah, as i said, i wouldn't mind announcing it's sort-of-readiness now when announcing plans for 15.10 for it
[09:40] <ochosi> elfy: ^ ?
[09:46] <elfy> yep - works here
[10:02] <ochosi> Unit193: would that be an ok compromise for you then?
[10:08] <ochosi> knome: re: that xfpm bug, you might have to compile yourself either way because if you can reproduce the bug, i'll need to add more debug-code so we can get the needed info
[10:08] <ochosi> bbiab
[10:08] <knome> hurgh
[10:08] <knome> :P
[10:08] <ochosi> well, that's what testing apps actually means most often ;)
[10:09] <knome> i know
[10:09] <ochosi> but the steps are really simple
[10:09] <ochosi> are you comfortable with applying git patches btw?
[10:10] <knome> somewhat
[10:10] <ochosi> ok good
[10:10] <ochosi> otherwise i would've set up a separate repo for testing/debugging it, but that seems a little over the top
[10:10] <knome> heh
[10:10] <ochosi> gotta run out for 2h, bb after that
[10:11] <knome> yep
[11:53] <knome> pleia2, RT 26480 if you are interested, but no need to worry, i'll handle it
[12:04] <elfy> thanks knome
[12:04] <elfy> could have done that myself ...
[12:06] <knome> it's fine :)
[12:18] <knome> http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/xubuntu/releases/15.04/release/
[12:18] <knome> oops.
[13:55] <ochosi> knome: any time you're ready, lemme know
[13:56] <knome> got to eat first
[13:56] <ochosi> sure, bon appetit
[13:57] <knome> if only i knew what i'm eating..
[14:51] <slickymasterWork> Unit193, zsynced and installed without a glich
[14:52] <elfy> afternoon peeps
[14:52] <slickymasterWork> if you want any specific testing on it please let me know
[14:52] <slickymasterWork> hey elfy
[14:52] <slickymasterWork> *glitch
[15:59] <ochosi> knome: soo... ready for some testing now?
[16:25] <knome> ochosi, unfortunately (for you) i'm not on my desktop now...
[16:25] <knome> will probably be postponed to some other day; unless you simply leave me the instructions and the test subject..
[16:35] <ochosi> hm, alright
[16:47] <slickymasterWork> ftr knome, there's a typo in http://xubuntu.org/news/15-04-release/
[16:47] <slickymasterWork> I'm correcting it
[16:59] <elfy> where?
[17:00] <slickymasterWork> in the known issues section
[17:00] <slickymasterWork> It was: "... To workaround this, simply readd the notes plugin to the panel....
[17:00] <slickymasterWork> removed the extra 'd' in readd
[17:00] <elfy> oh yea
[17:00] <elfy> umm
[17:01] <elfy> readd is right - read isn't :)
[17:01] <elfy> or re-add
[17:03] <slickymasterWork> god damn it elfy :P
[17:03] <knome> slickymasterWork, yeah you are wrong :P
[17:03] <knome> it's "re-add"
[17:03] <slickymasterWork> well at least you'll have to concur that it was an honest mistake
[17:04] <elfy> and work around as krytarik said elsewhere, being too scared to come here
[17:04] <krytarik> LOL - yeah yeah.
[17:04] <elfy> slickymasterWork: it was an honest mistake for sure :)
[17:04] <elfy> ohai krytarik :p
[17:05] <slickymasterWork> ok, it's re-add. now
[17:06] <knome> slickymasterWork, "To work around this, simply add the notes plugin back to the panel."
[17:06] <knome> slickymasterWork, plz
[17:07] <slickymasterWork> ok knome, I admit I read it diagonally
[17:07] <elfy> that's lost in translation here :)
[17:07] <knome> slickymasterWork, please put what i just quoted there for improved clarity
[17:08] <slickymasterWork> ?! knome
[17:08] <knome> slickymasterWork, "To work around this, simply add the notes plugin back to the panel."
[17:08] <slickymasterWork> put what? where?
[17:08] <knome> on the website
[17:08] <knome> :P
[17:08] <krytarik> Same would apply to the wiki page, btw.
[17:08] <knome> i can take care of that
[17:09] <slickymasterWork> so not, re-add?
[17:09] <slickymasterWork> without the comma
[17:09] <elfy> slickymasterWork: change it to that sentence
[17:09] <knome> slickymasterWork, well it's a different sentence altogether :P
[17:09] <elfy> To work around this, simply add the notes plugin back to the panel
[17:09] <knome> or i can do it if it's too baffling..
[17:11] <slickymasterWork> no it's not too baffling knome
[17:11] <slickymasterWork> it's done
[17:11] <knome> thanks
[17:12] <elfy> ummm
[17:12] <elfy> looks to be a different colour to me
[17:12] <knome> really?
[17:12] <krytarik> +1
[17:12] <knome> maybe
[17:13] <knome> damn that slimy master
[17:13] <elfy> definitely
[17:13] <elfy> bad timing there from me :p
[17:13] <krytarik> Also, "Release notes" → "Release Notes" as well then. :P
[17:13] * knome goes fix
[17:14] * knome sighs
[17:14] <knome> done
[17:14] <krytarik> \o/
[18:37] <knome> zequence, ping
[19:14] <Unit193> ochosi: Heh, of course. In the end whatever works and is useful. If that means wait until 15.10 for more testing, that's fine.
[19:44] <knome> zequence, (at least) two things:
[19:44] <knome> zequence, 1) how did you end up with SSL on studio's website?
[19:45] <knome> zequence, 2) did you get jetpack installed for studio WP and/or are you interested in it any more?
[21:51] <zequence> knome: Don't know about the ssl. We haven't got anything installed, no.
[21:51] <zequence> I'm satisfied myself with what we have right now.
[21:51] <knome> zequence, ok, then i'll likely as them to close that ticket
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2015-04-24-#ubuntu-nl
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[08:21] <lordievader> Goede morgen.
[08:50] <goudfazant3991> hallo allemaal
[08:50] <lordievader> o/
[08:51] <goudfazant3991> o ik heb een vraag
[08:52] <goudfazant3991> kan ik bij deze 14.04 version ook dat andere van >>> ubuntu server << bij zetten zonder dat er iets veranderd aan 14.04
[08:53] <trijntje> goudfazant3991: wat is >>> voor iets?
[08:54] <goudfazant3991> ja je weet ik doe graag een beetje uitproberen met die terminal server>>> maar ik wil natuurlijk niet meer dat ik problemen krijg met deze 14.04 die nu goed werkt
[08:55] <trijntje> goudfazant3991: gebruik nou geen >>> als interpunctie, niemand snapt waar je het over hebt
[08:56] <goudfazant3991> nou voorheen heb ik toch die terminal server met die grub problemen
[08:57] <goudfazant3991> als ik die nu er bij zet gaat er dan iets verkeerd met mij 14.04??
[08:57] <trijntje> wat is een terminal server? In standaard ubuntu zit ook gewoon een terminal
[08:58] <goudfazant3991> je kunt toch op het internet ook die ubuntu server terminal downloaden
[08:59] <trijntje> nee, je hebt gewoon ubuntu server, en die heeft standaard een terminal als omgeving, dat maakt het nog geen terminal server
[08:59] <goudfazant3991> als je die opstart kom je meteen in de terminal te staan
[08:59] <lordievader> goudfazant3991: Je kunt de server editie prima naast een desktop versie installeren. De waarom ontgaat mij volledig, maar het kan.
[08:59] <lordievader> Als je de desktop versie met de kernel parameter 'text' opstart heb je hetzelfde.
[09:00] <trijntje> goudfazant3991: waarom start je niet gewoon een terminal in de normale ubuntu omgeving?
[09:00] <goudfazant3991> nou lordievader zoals ik al verteld heb >> do ik graag een beetje experiment met dat terminal gedoe
[09:01] <lordievader> Dat kun je ook gewoon op je desktop doen.
[09:01] <goudfazant3991> als er maar geen probleem komt met de nu goed werkende 14.04
[09:02] <goudfazant3991> je bedoeld als ik in de terminal ga staan
[09:08] <goudfazant3991> ok dan zal ik her zo maar laten dan
[09:10] <lordievader> Verstandig.
[09:10] <goudfazant3991> ok bedankt alle en nog een fijne dag
[09:10] <goudfazant3991> baye
[13:33] <ubuniet> hallo daar! iemand aanwezig?
[13:34] <pjotter> jah?
[13:34] <ubuniet> kan ik hier een vraagje stellen?
[13:34] <pjotter> Daar is dit kanaal voor
[13:34] <OerHeks> :-)
[13:34] <pjotter> Gaat uw gang...
[13:35] <ubuniet> ik krijg ubuntu niet geinstalleerd, ik werk met een opstart-usb en alles loopt perfect, maar hij herkent tijdens de installatie geen harde schijven
[13:35] <pjotter> Oer?
[13:35] <pjotter> Wat voor computer is het?
[13:35] <ubuniet> ik ben dan mijn partities al handmatig gaan opsplitsen en heb 1 partitie geformateerd als ex4
[13:36] <ubuniet> maar zelfs dan herkent ubuntu het niet
[13:36] <ubuniet> ff checken
[13:36] <trijntje> ubuniet: het makkelijkste is om die ext4 te verwijderen en leeg te laten, ubuntu ziet dan de vrije ruimte
[13:36] <OerHeks> laat de ruimte ongeformatteerd, en laat de installer alles indelen idd
[13:37] <pjotter> Ja, maar blijkbaar detecteert ie de harde schijf niet...
[13:37] <pjotter> Toch?
[13:37] <ubuniet> ook als ik het leeg laat ziet ubuntu het niet
[13:37] <OerHeks> is het een machien met windows 8 / UEFI ?
[13:37] <pjotter> Ik heb geen idee hoe dit kan komen. Misschien dat anderen iets weten? Bij mij detecteert ie alles meteen en zonder problemen.
[13:37] <ubuniet> pc is een intel core 2quad CPU Q9400 2.66Ghz 2.67 Ghz
[13:38] <ubuniet> 4gb Ram
[13:38] <Sling> via welk OS heb je de partities dan net aangemaakt als ext4?
[13:38] <ubuniet> met vista op
[13:38] <ubuniet> via gparted in de testversie van ubuntu
[13:38] <trijntje> testversie?
[13:38] <Sling> dus de live modus ziet de disk wel, en de installer niet
[13:38] <Sling> van dezelfde ubuntuversie?
[13:38] <ubuniet> idd
[13:38] <Sling> dat is wel bijzonder :)
[13:39] <ubuniet> na wat opzoekwerk ben ik te weten gekomen dat dit kan als je harde schijf op dynamisch staat
[13:39] <OerHeks> oke, geen uefi
[13:39] <ubuniet> maar dat is bij mij niet het geval
[13:39] <OerHeks> zijn er nu 4 primairy partities ?
[13:39] <ubuniet> nee 2
[13:40] <ubuniet> gva1 en gva2
[13:40] <ubuniet> gva2 niet geformateerd
[13:41] <ubuniet> oei, ik heb hier iedereen aan het denken gezet, vermoed ik :)
[13:41] <pjotter> Wordt de HD wel in het BIOS gedetecteerd? Staan de jumpers (indien aanwezig) juist ingesteld?
[13:41] <trijntje> gva? Dat heb ik nog nooit gezien in ubuntu
[13:42] <ubuniet> gva is de naam van de partitie die in windows zichtbaar is
[13:42] <ubuniet> bios staat ingesteld op booten van usb
[13:43] <ubuniet> jumpers* ...... ik ben een leek :-)
[13:43] <pjotter> Maar de schijf zelf wordt wel 'gezien' in BIOS? (ik vermoed van wel hoor)
[13:43] <ubuniet> ja zeker wel, ik kan booten van de schijf of van de usb die ik opstartbaar heb gemaakt
[13:43] <OerHeks> ide/ahci probleem misschien?
[13:43] <pjotter> Ja, soms heb je nog harde schijven met jumpers. Van die kleine pinnetjes waarmee je HD instelt als master/slave/cable select
[13:43] <kebabfish> ziet gparted de schijven ook niet vanaf een live usb? (of is dit een niet slimme suggestie)
[13:44] <ubuniet> gparted ziet de schijven altijd, dus ik kan met de live usb partities aanpassen
[13:45] <ubuniet> de harde schijf is zeker een master, aangesloten als SATA 1
[13:52] <pjotter> Het zou (maar hou me te goede) kunnen liggen aan een instelling in de BIOS. Als ik her en der zoek op vergelijkbare probelemen komt het vaak daarop uit. Reboot eens en kijk de schijfinstellingen na in de BIOS. Sata mode moet SATA zijn en misschien dat er nog meer instellingen zijn.
[13:52] <ubuniet> kan het zijn dat ubuntu via usb, enkel de usb ziet als te installeren harde schijf?
[13:52] <ubuniet> sata mode is SATA hoor
[13:53] <OerHeks> Ik kan dit niet verklaren, is die sata in raid0 ?
[13:53] <OerHeks> je kon wel een ext4 partitie maken ...
[13:53] <trijntje> disk op fouten controleren?
[13:53] <ubuniet> het enige waar ik wel over twijfel in bios is dat als ik boot van de usb (als harde schijf) hij de gewone harde schijf niet meer als master zal zien
[13:54] <ubuniet> mss zit het probleem daar?
[13:56] <OerHeks> boot via live iso, en kijk welke letter je hdd heeft, sda of sdb
[13:57] <ubuniet> ok, ik kijk even en kom zo dadelijk terug. Alvast bedankt voor het "mee nadenken"
[13:58] <trijntje> ubuniet: controlleer meteen de disk op fouten
[13:58] <trijntje> trijdens het starten vd pc op shift blijven drukken, en dan 'check cd for defects'
[13:59] <ubuniet> ok trijntje
[14:29] <ubuniet> hier ben ik terug met mijn moeilijke vragen, werk nu in ubuntu, via de test-versie
[14:29] <ubuniet> disc gecontroleerd op fouten, daar kwam niets uit
[14:32] <ubuniet> file:///home/it/Desktop/Screenshot%20from%202015-04-24%2014:31:56.png
[14:33] <trijntje> dat werkt niet, imgur.com
[14:34] <ubuniet> http://imgur.com/nfrncqX
[14:34] <ubuniet> op die manier?
[14:37] <ubuniet> ik denk persoonlijk dat, wanneer ik in mijn bios instel dat hij moet booten vanaf usb, hij ineens de gewone harde schijf niet meer ziet. maar enkel de USB.....maar hoe kan ik dit oplossen?
[14:38] <trijntje> hm, raar, zie je nog andere devs?
[14:38] <ubuniet> nee
[14:38] <trijntje> in de installer als je op dat menu klikt
[14:38] <ubuniet> nee, die kleurt rood, maar hij geeft geen andere devs weer
[14:40] <pjotter> ubuniet: Bij veel computers kun je door middel van een toets bij het opstarten in te drukken starten van USB. Misschien dat jouw computer dat ook zo heeft?
[14:40] <trijntje> hm, dat is heel raar. Misschien dan 14.10 installeren en upgraden naar 15.04?
[14:40] <pjotter> Bij mij is dat bijvoorbeeld F8, andere computer die ik gebruik is het de escape toets.
[14:40] <trijntje> ubuniet: en je kan natuurlijk altijd een bug report indienen, via het live systeem in de terminal: ubuntu-bug ubiquity-installer
[14:41] <ubuniet> pjotter: dat kan ik dan als laatste nog eens proberen
[14:41] <pjotter> Dan kun je het Bios gewoon op 'booten vanaf HD' zetten en dan toch opstarten vanaf USB
[14:41] <pjotter> Het is het proberen waard. Als je weet waaraan het ligt, komt de oplossing dichter bij.
[14:42] <ubuniet> thanks! ik breng verslag uit als ik terug online ben
[14:53] <ubuniet> pjotter: ik kan inderdaad met f8 kiezen waarmee ik opstart, maar dat gaf dezelfde uitkomst, een installatie zonder harde schijven....
[14:54] <ubuniet> ik vrees dat ik geen oplossing ga vinden, kan er zelf op het internet ook niets over terug vinden. misschien moet ik gewoon eens een andere versie proberen
[14:54] <ubuniet> linux mint 17 is even goed?
[17:26] <Petrov> nog mensen die problemen bij de installatie om het toetsenbord in azerty te krijgen? ubuntu 15.04
[17:28] <Petrov> gevonden: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/console-setup/+bug/1448068
[18:34] <mandje> kan je een apple photo stream bekijken/binnenhalen in ubuntu?
[18:35] <mandje> geloof dat het officieel een icloud photo stream is.
[18:36] <mandje> dus eigenlijk is de vraag is er een linux icloud client? :)
[18:39] <OerHeks> nope, zover ik en google het weten, niet.
[18:39] <OerHeks> installeer dropbox op die apple
[18:41] <mandje> ja dropbox lees ik net ook.
[18:41] <mandje> of via browser naar icloud.com kan ook altijd. me niet gerealiseerd.
[18:46] <lordievader> Tcpdumpen en reverse engineeren?
[18:59] <SCHAAP137> precies, tcpdump of wireshark/tshark
[19:00] <lordievader> Ik lees drie keer hetzelfde :P
[19:01] <SCHAAP137> ach ja, anders verpakt
[19:01] <SCHAAP137> maar het doet hetzelfde idd
[20:50] <Guest85739> goede avond! ik had een vraag....weten jullie wat het verschil tussen updatedb & en updated is??
[20:52] <OerHeks> Ja, update de files database en "klaar met updaten of geupdate"
[20:52] <OerHeks> updated is geen opdracht
[20:56] <Guest85739> Dus updatedb & = update de files database
[20:58] <Guest85739> sorry ik bedoelde ipv updated, updatedb
[21:04] <Guest85739> ?
[21:08] <systeem> Guest85739: kun je je vraag wat duidelijker stellen?
[21:10] <systeem> verschil tussen updatedb en updatedb?
[21:11] <Guest85739> Verschil tussen updatedb & en updatedb
[21:11] <systeem> geen verschil, zelfde commando
[21:12] <Guest85739> maar waarom is dan bij die ene commando na updatedb, & er achter
[21:12] <lordievader> Om hem in de achtergrond te draaien.
[21:13] <Guest85739> Heel erg bedankt, dus ze updaten de files database
[21:13] <systeem> yes
[21:14] <Guest85739> dankjewel fijne avond
[21:14] <systeem> fijne avond!
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2015-04-24-#ubuntu-us-mi
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[00:18] <jcastro> cscheib, yes, yes it is.
[00:31] <jrwren> you saw forgue?
[00:38] <cscheib> jrwren: https://twitter.com/quarfot/status/591064617570291712
[00:39] <jrwren> straight bourbon is REALLY good while smelling fresh ground coffee
[00:39] <jrwren> yes, it was one of those days, and NOT at work. Work is a blessing compared to the rest of life right now.
[00:40] <cscheib> https://mesosphere.com/blog/2015/04/23/apple-details-j-a-r-v-i-s-the-mesos-framework-that-runs-siri/
[00:42] <jrwren> the fact that it is mesos makes me love apple less :p
[00:43] <jrwren> ugh. HDFS *shudder*
[00:43] <jrwren> we can do so much better as a species :)
[01:56] <cmaloney> heh
[02:03] <jrwren> DEMAND MORE!
[02:03] <jrwren> cmaloney: favorite 1985 album release?
[12:39] <cmaloney> mornoing
[12:57] <cmaloney> jrwren: toss-up between PIL: album, Rush: Power Windows and Don Dorsey Bachbusters
[13:30] <rick_h_> morn
[14:07] <cmaloney> morning
[14:08] <cmaloney> jrwren: why did you ask? ;)
[14:08] <jrwren> cmaloney: was having a review of 1985 music
[14:08] <jrwren> some stupid kids said that music older than them sucks.
[14:09] <jrwren> i set 'em straight
[14:09] <jrwren> 1985 was no 1989 for sure, but still some great stuff in 85
[14:09] <cmaloney> yeah, not a great year, but a good year
[14:10] <cmaloney> i think there were more cd re-releases takong center stage
[14:10] <cmaloney> ah, no, off by a few years
[14:10] <cmaloney> sisters of mercy released first and last and alwasys
[14:11] <cmaloney> though I think Floodland is a stronger album
[14:11] <cmaloney> and Dead Milkmen released Big Lizard in my backyard
[14:12] <jrwren> yeah i pointed out the sisters release.
[14:12] <cmaloney> also: unless they weree born beforee Led Zeppelin and Rush they have nothing to stand on
[14:12] <jrwren> I didn't point out the Dead Milkmen release :)
[14:12] <cmaloney> ;)
[14:12] <cmaloney> take it or leave it. ;)
[14:12] <cmaloney> not my favorite bit fun nonetheless
[14:12] <cmaloney> but
[14:13] <jrwren> they were just being stupid kids.
[14:13] <jrwren> but this old man (me) took it a bit to heart
[14:13] <cmaloney> yeah and it workesd
[14:14] <cmaloney> that's OK. their kids will disparage Dillinger Escape Plan and thery can go apoplectic on them too
[14:14] <jrwren> ha!
[14:21] <_stink_> i still have Dean's Dream and Nutrition on a playlist i listen to all the time :)
[14:24] <jrwren> what is that?
[14:25] <_stink_> two tracks from Big Lizard in my Backyard
[22:01] <cscheib> fellow michiganders... any suggestions for a really good restaurant in Michigan outside of the east-side that would be worth a road trip for... trying to figure out something to do for my birthday so my gf stops asking
[22:02] <cscheib> budget is fairly flexible, up to $100/person
[22:02] <cscheib> trying to figure out someplace good I've never been to and normally wouldn't go to
[22:32] <greg-g> good feels of the day: Due to the reorg, two of my team members (manual qa) moved to fully embedded/reporting to another manager. I asked them about our 1:1s and they both asked to keep them (but reduced frequency).
[22:41] <brousch> cscheib: Toulous in Saugatuck is nice, and it's a nice little town to walk around.
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2015-04-24-#ubuntu-pt
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[00:03] <astroo-> Ubuntu 15.04 (Vivid Vervet) http://releases.ubuntu.com/15.04/
[02:51] <astroo-> ciao pessoal
[20:45] <astroo-> ola pessoal
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ubuntu-chat
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2024-05-13T22:11:13.756245
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2015-04-01-#ubuntu-ir
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[12:21] <Mahdi> salam
[12:23] <Mahdi> salam kesi hast ye komaki be ma bokone
[15:57] <Ehsun> Salam
[22:39] <yaiiaj> :
[22:39] <yaiiaj> :)
[22:40] <yaiiaj> che jaye bahalie inja
[22:40] <yaiiaj> :D
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ubuntu-chat
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2024-05-13T22:11:13.759043
| 2015-04-01T00:00:00 |
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2015-04-01-#ubuntu-us-or
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[21:32] <bkerensa> kees: you check out postmates at all?
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ubuntu-chat
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2024-05-13T22:11:13.759752
| 2015-04-01T00:00:00 |
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2015-04-01-#ubuntu-se
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[07:31] <einand> Dynamit: vad för licenser?
[07:35] <dynamit-tmpmobil> VM-1 och MPEG-2 licenserna för få de använda GPU för koda av skiten
[07:35] <dynamit-tmpmobil> har inte fixat auth nyckeln till mobilen än så därför fick jag gå in så här
[07:36] <dynamit-tmpmobil> VC-1 ska det vara
[07:37] <einand> hur ofta avkodar man mpeg-2 idag?
[07:37] <einand> med licens menar jag
[07:37] <einand> typ allt som behövs är ju fritt
[07:38] <dynamit-tmpmobil> bättre ha än koka ihop något så värst mycket kostar den ändå inte
[07:38] <dynamit-tmpmobil> klart vet man hur man kokar ihop fullt fungerande så är väl det bra
[07:41] <einand> själv tror jag inte jag kör något annat än h264 faktiskt
[07:43] <dynamit-tmpmobil> själv så kör jag lite allt möjlig har för mig de flesta DvD-filmer kör mpeg-2
[07:48] <einand> jo
[07:48] <einand> gav bort alla mina dvd filmer
[07:50] <dynamit-tmpmobil> jag har de flesta i datorn så behöver inte tänka på skivorna de står bara som prydnad
[07:51] <einand> jag har generelt inte något mot mpeg2 licensen, förutom att det är per enhet och inte per användare
[07:59] <Dynamit-tmpmobil> jag förstår der
[07:59] <Dynamit-tmpmobil> det
[08:02] <Dynamit-tmpmobil> samma med VC-1
[08:02] <Dynamit-tmpmobil> sedan med alla jäkla spärrar och skit så undrar filmstudiorna varför Sånna företag som Slysoft finns
[08:51] <HeMan> Morrn!
[09:24] <einand> aldrig använt VC-1 tror jag. finns det någon standard utrusntning som avkodar det?
[14:47] <lord4163> Vad kallas conditional expression på svenska? "Vilkorssats"?
[15:03] <SebastianThorn> eller uttryck kanske
[15:05] <gusnan_> "Villkorligt uttryck"
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2015-04-01-#ubuntu-us-ca
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[23:33] <ianorlin> nhaines ^^
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ubuntu-chat
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2024-05-13T22:11:13.767709
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2015-04-01-#ubuntu-cat
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[20:05] <rafael_carreras> hola, hi ha algú per la reunió d'avui?
[20:06] <aniolgarcia> Si, jo!
[20:06] <rafael_carreras> hola aniolgarcia
[20:07] <aniolgarcia> hola, bona nit!
[20:07] <rafael_carreras> Avui havíem de parlar de les feines per la propera festa ubuntaire a Terrassa
[20:08] <rafael_carreras> no sé si l'aniolgarcia té alguna proposta :-)
[20:09] <rafael_carreras> em temo que els habituals a les reunions deuen ser de vacances i no han caigut que hi havia reunió
[20:09] <aniolgarcia> uff... em sembla que no puc col·laborar gaire, doncs...
[20:11] <rafael_carreras> vindràs a la festa?
[20:11] <aniolgarcia> si, en principi si
[20:12] <rafael_carreras> així, col·laboraràs d'alguna manera. :-)
[20:13] <rafael_carreras> sempre pots ajudar amb els organitzadors, si et ve de gust
[20:14] <aniolgarcia> home, si hi ha alguna cosa que pugui fer, cap problema. Estarè encantat d'ajudar
[20:14] <rafael_carreras> aquest és l'esperit
[20:15] <rafael_carreras> a veure si a la propera reunió concretem alguna cosa. Els organitzadors són d'un institut i segur que són de vacances, hauré de contactar amb ells dimarts a veure què porten planejat
[20:16] <rafael_carreras> ho deixem aquí, més sort a la propera reunió
[20:16] <rafael_carreras> #########################################################
[20:16] <rafael_carreras> bona nit, aniolgarcia
[20:16] <aniolgarcia> Bona nit!
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[06:38] <akis24> giorno
[06:51] <Giorgino> Lubuntu 14.04.2 lst devo installare i driver della scheda ethenet intel 82557/8/9/0/1 come posso fare?
[06:56] <Giorgino> Nessuna idea?
[07:22] * bip Buongiorno
[07:45] <jmsbnz> ciao gente
[07:45] <jmsbnz> sto cercando di far rilevare una chiavetta TIM a ubuntu 14.04
[07:45] <jmsbnz> ONDA TM201 il modello
[07:45] <jmsbnz> non riescoa muovermi
[07:51] <krabador> jmsbnz: estrai il file dalla pendrive in una cartella
[07:54] <jmsbnz> non me la rileva nemmeno come memoria
[07:54] <jmsbnz> solo con lsusb la vedo
[07:55] <krabador> jmsbnz: sudo fdisk -l
[07:55] <jmsbnz> non la vede
[07:56] <jmsbnz> non ti posto l'output perchè sto lavorando su un altro pc
[07:56] <jmsbnz> comunque rileva solo le partizione dell'hard disk interno
[07:59] <krabador> jmsbnz: serve l'output di dmesg | tail , dopo l'inserimento della pendrive in quel sistema
[08:00] <PeppeSR> buongiorno :) ho un problema con firefox e perenni crash, sapete aiutarmi?
[08:01] <PeppeSR> solitamente crasha o senza motivo all avvio oppure quando carico qualche pagina con flash pesanti ( a quanto pare)
[08:02] <jmsbnz> krabador, systemd-udevd 2591: failed to apply ACL on dev/sr0: no such file or directory
[08:02] <jmsbnz> krabador, non ci pensavo
[08:02] <jmsbnz> krabador, do una googlata con questo errore, poi se ho bisogno ti rompo le scatole di nuovo
[08:03] <jmsbnz> krabador, grazie molte per ora
[08:04] <krabador> PeppeSR: cancella .mozilla , dalla home e prova
[08:09] <PeppeSR> ma già fatto tempo fa
[08:10] <PeppeSR> è ricomparso il problema
[08:10] <PeppeSR> ho pensato ad un disco danneggiato
[08:10] <PeppeSR> potrebbe esserE?
[08:10] <krabador> PeppeSR: certo
[08:10] <krabador> anzi...
[08:11] <PeppeSR> come potrei controllarE?
[08:12] <krabador> da live, sudo fsck /dev/sdxx , dove xx corrispondono a lettera e numero della partizione di sistema
[08:17] <PeppeSR> per forza da live?
[08:17] <krabador> si.
[08:30] <Fabiobologna> Ciao a tutti lubuntu 14.04.2 lst non vede la sheda di rete intel 82557 come posso risolvere?
[08:33] <krabador> Fabiobologna: sudo rmmod e100
[08:33] <Fabiobologna> Provo
[08:33] <krabador> Fabiobologna: dmesg | grep -e e100 -e eth ifconfig
[08:34] <krabador> non sono tentativi , ma comandi di cui devi postare il risultato
[08:34] <krabador> su pastebin
[08:34] <krabador> !paste | fabi
[08:34] <ubot-it> fabi: http://paste.ubuntu.com/ servizio che permette di incollare lunghi output senza intasare il canale; incollare il testo, indicare il nick, premere paste e postare in canale l'indirizzo della pagina
[08:34] <krabador> !paste | Fabiobologna
[08:34] <ubot-it> Fabiobologna: http://paste.ubuntu.com/ servizio che permette di incollare lunghi output senza intasare il canale; incollare il testo, indicare il nick, premere paste e postare in canale l'indirizzo della pagina
[08:35] <Fabiobologna> sudo mmod e100 da command not found
[08:37] <Fabiobologna> Posso fare una foto ho l'ipad e sono davanti al terminale
[08:37] <krabador> !image | Fabiobologna
[08:37] <ubot-it> Fabiobologna: Carica un'immagine su https://imgur.com/ | http://imageshack.us/ (richiede registrazione) e metti un collegamento ad essa in canale.
[08:42] <Fabiobologna> Non mi riesce di caricare la foto che dati ti interessano?
[08:42] <krabador> se entri ed esci però fai venire il mal di mare
[08:42] <krabador> Fabiobologna: tutto il risultato dei 2 comandi di prima
[08:42] <krabador> che non sono poche righe
[08:42] <Fabiobologna> Mmmm
[08:43] <Fabiobologna> Se clicco il tastino invia non me le carica
[08:43] <Fabiobologna> Ero uscito per scattare la foto
[08:43] <krabador> Fabiobologna: non ti preoccupare, torna pure quando queste operazioni ti saranno più comode
[08:44] <Fabiobologna> Cioe?
[08:44] <krabador> quando potrai inviare le informazioni senza problemi
[08:45] <krabador> sei stato sul sito imgur?
[08:46] <Fabiobologna> Ora esco e rientro con un altro broswer che mi fa mandare le foto...
[08:49] <Fabiobologna> https://www.filepicker.io/api/file/oxO7zW1UTPm1NgTEF5II https://www.filepicker.io/api/file/FsTpgecRLmJIoU6zcdM4 https://www.filepicker.io/api/file/2XRjza9S4e8rVWqfYHQF https://www.filepicker.io/api/file/mY2CpwXeQeyGFtAAS7Rr
[08:49] <Fabiobologna> postato foto...
[08:51] <krabador> serve vedere cosa hai digitato e come finisce
[08:55] <Fabiobologna> Ok digitato dmesg la fine la fotografo ora
[08:55] <Fabiobologna> Un attimo
[08:58] <Fabiobologna> Non mi funziona piu il caricamento...
[10:44] <JethroTux> chi mi consiglia un buon server per vpn hosting naturalmente gratuito??
[11:00] <Fabiobologna> https://www.filepicker.io/api/file/p6HcLh7QQrOcdrk4OVK9
[11:17] <glpiana> ola
[12:51] <Fuxia> Salve. Ho installato vari software di lettura dvd, ma non ne funziona neanche uno!
[12:53] <krabador> per leggere dvd originali?
[12:53] <Fuxia> sì
[12:53] <davegarath> lol
[12:53] <krabador> Fuxia, che guide hai seguito?
[12:53] <Fuxia> In che senso?
[12:54] <krabador> Fuxia, hai letto da qualche parte che software installare
[12:54] <krabador> oppure hai fatto di testa tua?
[12:54] <krabador> Fuxia, dpkg -l | grep sudo libdvdread4
[12:54] <Fuxia> Li ho presi dal Software center
[12:55] <krabador> !pastebin | Fuxia
[12:55] <ubot-it> Fuxia: http://paste.ubuntu.com/ servizio che permette di incollare lunghi output senza intasare il canale; incollare il testo, indicare il nick, premere paste e postare in canale l'indirizzo della pagina
[12:57] <Fuxia> Sto usando midori e non trovo il comando copia incolla
[12:58] <krabador> !terminale | Fuxia
[12:58] <ubot-it> Fuxia: Guida alla riga di comando: http://wiki.ubuntu-it.org/RigaDiComando vedi anche !bash
[13:00] <Fuxia> A dopo!
[13:02] <Fuxia> Salve,rieccomi
[13:03] <Fuxia> Non riesco a fare leggere i dvd originali al sistema operativo. Tra l'altro a stento si accorge che c'è inserito un dvd.
[13:03] <krabador> Fuxia, dpkg -l | grep sudo libdvdread4
[13:03] <krabador> !terminale | Fuxia
[13:03] <ubot-it> Fuxia: Guida alla riga di comando: http://wiki.ubuntu-it.org/RigaDiComando vedi anche !bash
[13:04] <Fuxia> Sì
[13:04] <Fuxia> Dopo di che ?
[13:05] <Fuxia> Quindi?
[13:06] <krabador> !pastebin | Fuxia
[13:06] <ubot-it> Fuxia: http://paste.ubuntu.com/ servizio che permette di incollare lunghi output senza intasare il canale; incollare il testo, indicare il nick, premere paste e postare in canale l'indirizzo della pagina
[13:06] <krabador> se non c'è
[13:07] <krabador> sudo apt-get install libdvdread4
[13:07] <krabador> sudo /usr/share/doc/libdvdread4/install-css.sh
[13:07] <krabador> riavvii
[13:07] <krabador> e magari ti installi un software da cristiani
[13:07] <krabador> sudo apt-get install vlc
[13:07] <krabador> enjoy
[13:08] <Fuxia> http://paste.ubuntu.com/10718185/
[13:08] <Fuxia> vlc non li legge
[13:09] <Fuxia> non si avvia neanche il software per eseguire i pacchetti debian
[13:14] <Fuxia> grazie, ma ...
[14:52] <Fabiobologna> Driver per intel ethernet 100
[14:52] <Manaphy91> LIST
[14:54] <Fabiobologna> Ho lubuntu 14.04.2 lts e devo installare la scheda ethernet
[14:55] <Fabiobologna> Come procedere?
[14:56] <krabador> Fabiobologna, hai mandato i 2 comandi che ti sono stati detti ore fa, correttamente?
[14:56] <Fabiobologna> Si
[14:56] <Fabiobologna> mando le foto?
[14:57] <krabador> Fabiobologna, hai mandato foto, prima, dei comandi sbagliati
[14:57] <Fabiobologna> https://www.filepicker.io/api/file/aCppqc2OTzuntkDcMWml
[14:58] <Fabiobologna> Mm ok li rifaccio allora che comandi rido?
[15:01] <Fabiobologna> Ifcofig?
[15:02] <krabador> Fabiobologna, cosa ti sei segnato , quando te li ho mandati?
[15:04] <krabador> Fabiobologna, sudo rmmod e100
[15:05] <krabador> dmesg | grep -e e100 -e eth
[15:05] <krabador> entrambi pastebin
[15:10] <mimmowingchun> !chat
[15:10] <ubot-it> per qualsiasi argomento non inerente strettamente il supporto a ubuntu, /join #ubuntu-it-chat
[15:10] <mimmowingchun> sera a tutti
[16:18] <Fabiobologna> https://www.filepicker.io/api/file/RF88tMaSSeKEIOTJwFXF
[16:18] <Fabiobologna> fatto
[16:19] <Fabiobologna> Scusate il tempo occorso ma sto lavorando in negozio
[16:20] <Fabiobologna> Nel frattempo
[16:21] <krabador> Fabiobologna, ok che lavori in negozio, ma copia i comandi correttamente al meno
[16:21] <krabador> Fabiobologna, con il primo anche stamattina hai fatto la stessa cosa
[16:22] <Fabiobologna> Ok quale ho sbagliato il primo?
Fabiobologna, sudo rmmod e100
[16:23] <Fabiobologna> Visto errore lo rifaccio
[16:25] <Fabiobologna> https://www.filepicker.io/api/file/sMnHtTmSbaPDAYBCRD3g
[16:25] <Fabiobologna> Fatto
[16:28] <krabador> Fabiobologna, sudo gedit /etc/modprobe.d/e100.conf
[16:28] <krabador> aggiungi queste 2 linee
[16:28] <krabador> alias eth0 e100
[16:28] <krabador> options e100 eeprom_bad_csum_allow=1
[16:29] <krabador> salvi , chiudi
[16:30] <Fabiobologna> Fatto gedit... Mi da command not found
[16:30] <krabador> sudo leafpad /etc/modprobe.d/e100.conf
[16:31] <krabador> Fabiobologna, una volta fatta quella modifica
[16:31] <krabador> sudo leafpad /etc/rc.local
[16:31] <krabador> sopra 'exit=0': inserisci questa linea
[16:32] <krabador> ifconfig eth0 hw ether 00:11:22:33:44:55
[16:32] <Fabiobologna> Sud leafpad file not found
[16:32] <krabador> Fabiobologna, sveglia
[16:32] <Fabiobologna> Mando foto
[16:33] <Fabiobologna> https://www.filepicker.io/api/file/qXDmQ2sXRaGgVOEzXNoj
[16:33] <Fabiobologna> Sono sveglio ma, stordito... :-)
[16:34] <krabador> stordito != sveglio
[16:34] <krabador> guarda bene
[16:34] <krabador> una volta fatte le modifiche ai 2 file, riavvia
[16:35] <widecurio64> salve a tutti dovrei installare adobe air su kubuntu 14.10, unico problema è che l'installer è in 32 bits
[16:35] <Fabiobologna> Avevo dimenticato uno spazio.... Scusa
[16:36] <krabador> Fabiobologna, è solo tempo che tu perdi, se copi male.
[16:36] <Fabiobologna> Aggiungo al file e100.conf le due righe?
[16:37] <Fabiobologna> Non copi riscrivo e ho gli occhiali
[16:37] <widecurio64> cosa mi consigliate?
[16:38] <Fabiobologna> https://www.filepicker.io/api/file/rb6wGxpmRHeeLYqvbzeN
[16:38] <Fabiobologna> va bene e100.conf?
[16:41] <krabador> widecurio64, su sistema a 64 puoi installare quello che ti pare
[16:41] <krabador> 32 o 64
[16:42] <krabador> purchè in un sistema a 64, hai tutte le dipendenze a 32 richieste dal programma
[16:43] <widecurio64> le guide che ho trovato mi dicono che devo installare delle librerie... ma quando provo ad installarle mi dice:E: Il pacchetto "ia32-libs" non ha candidati da installare
[16:43] <widecurio64> No match for libhal-storage.so.1
[16:43] <widecurio64> No packages to install
[16:43] <Fabiobologna> Fatto le modifiche riavvio il pc?
[16:43] <widecurio64> quando avvio l'installer mi scrive questo..
[16:49] <widecurio64> http://paste.ubuntu.com/10719290/
[16:49] <widecurio64> questo è ciò che mi scrive l'installer!
[16:50] <krabador> vuol dire che "non hai le librerie richieste dall'installer" c
[16:50] <krabador> come ti sto segnalando
[16:51] <widecurio64> e quindi che faccio?
[16:52] <krabador> verifichi quelle che sono le dipendenze/librerie necessarie
[16:53] <krabador> widecurio64, da dove hai preso adobe air?
[17:04] <Fabiobologna> Riavviato il pc ora guardo
[17:05] <Fabiobologna> Nada non va
[17:08] <Fabiobologna> Rifaccio la procedura
[17:11] <widecurio64> scusa ero occupato, sul sito ufficiale
[17:12] <widecurio64> http://paste.ubuntu.com/10719459/
[17:17] <youneverknow> Fabiobologna, prova in un sistema realmente installato
[17:18] <krabador> widecurio64, air non è piu' supportata in linux
[17:18] <widecurio64> lo so ma io vorrei installare la 2.6
[17:18] <Fabiobologna> Non ho la connessione ce n'e uno installabile non on line?
[17:18] <krabador> Fabiobologna, quello che mandi in live
[17:18] <widecurio64> siccome non riesco ad installare quella per windows
[17:19] <krabador> lo puoi installare con "installa"
[17:19] <Fabiobologna> mm si blocca
[17:21] <krabador> widecurio64, https://helpx.adobe.com/air/kb/archived-air-sdk-version.html
[17:21] <krabador> widecurio64, https://helpx.adobe.com/air/kb/install-32-bit-air-linux.html#main_Install_AIR_1_5_on_64_bit_Ubuntu_7_10__8_04__and_9_04
[17:22] <krabador> documentazione ufficiale datata
[17:22] <krabador> Fabiobologna, http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/lubuntu/releases/
[17:23] <krabador> scegli quella che vuoi
[17:23] <krabador> ma le supportate sono 12.04 14.04 e 14.10
[17:23] <krabador> troverai i link per le versioni a 32 e 64 bit
[17:24] <krabador> !usbwin | Fabiobologna
[17:24] <ubot-it> Fabiobologna: Scarica Universal USB Installer: http://www.pendrivelinux.com/universal-usb-installer-easy-as-1-2-3/ | Installalo su Windows e lancialo: lui si occuperà di trasferire l'immagine ISO su USB. Guida: http://www.ubuntu.com/download/desktop/create-a-usb-stick-on-windows | Opzionalmente questo programma può anche scaricare lui stesso l'immagine ISO
[17:24] <krabador> !iso | Fabiobologna
[17:24] <ubot-it> Fabiobologna: http://wiki.ubuntu-it.org/Hardware/DispositiviPartizioni/MasterizzareIso
[17:24] <krabador> !installazione | Fabiobologna
[17:24] <ubot-it> Fabiobologna: http://wiki.ubuntu-it.org/Installazione | Per installazione grafica http://wiki.ubuntu-it.org/Installazione/Grafica | Si consiglia la visione della guida ufficiale in inglese http://www.ubuntu.com/desktop/get-ubuntu/download
[17:29] <Fabiobologna> Ok grazie dei consigli provero...
[19:39] <mikunos> Buona sera a tutti
[19:41] <fabio_cc> !ciao | mikunos
[19:41] <ubot-it> mikunos: Ciao! Benvenuto in #ubuntu-it
[19:49] <mb339amichelinok> salve gente
[19:50] <krabador> !ciao | mb339amichelinok
[19:50] <ubot-it> mb339amichelinok: Ciao! Benvenuto in #ubuntu-it
[19:51] <mb339amichelinok> grande problema al boot... target filesystem doesn-t have required /sbin/init se mounto l'hd con una live...disco vuoto {ma partizionato} idee? {al momento sto facendo e2fsck}
[19:54] <mb339amichelinok> :(
[21:24] <ciro> sera a tutti
[21:24] <ciro> dunque non posso più stampare da ubuntu 14.10
[21:26] <ciro> servizio di stampa non disponibile ubuntu
[21:27] <ciro> interrogando il terminale con sudo service cups start
[21:28] <ciro> start: Job is already running: cups
[21:33] <ciro> vi spiego cosa è successo: poco fà ho acceso il pc, stampato un allegato da tunderbird in b/n e ho chiuso il pc. Alla riaccenzione mi dà qest'errore
[21:35] <ciro> servizio di stampa non disponibile avviare il servizio su questo computer oppure connettersi ad un 'altro server
[21:35] <ciro> Stavo seguendo questo link http://forum.ubuntu-it.org/viewtopic.php?p=3932822
[21:36] <ciro> dopo aver interrogato il pc sulle funzioni di cups, la risposta è stata che è al lavoro
[21:37] <ciro> come se tutto andasse bene
[21:37] <ciro> riscrivo i domandi eseguiti:sudo service cups start
[21:38] <ciro> la risposta:start: Job is already running: cups
[21:43] <hallino1> Uè belli :)
[21:43] <ciro> Ciao
[21:44] <ciro> allora questo è lo screenshoot della situazione http://imgur.com/T5JdDSD
[21:45] <ciro> Com'è possibile che alla riaccenzione del pc non carica le stampanti?
[21:45] <ciro> ciao bip
[21:47] <Carlin0> ciro, se provi ad aprire il browser all'indirizzo localhost:631 cosa succede ?
[21:48] <ciro> come devo scrivere precisamente sul browser?
[21:48] <Carlin0> localhost:631
[21:48] <Carlin0> prova e dimmi se si apre
[21:49] <ciro> la pagina web non è disponibile
[21:49] <Carlin0> cups non è avviato
[21:50] <ciro> sudo service cups restart?
[21:50] <Carlin0> senza re ...
[21:50] <Carlin0> sudo service cups start
[21:51] <ciro> start: Job is already running: cups
[21:52] <Carlin0> mi spiace ciro non so aiutarti
[21:53] <ciro> e se rimuovo e rinstallo cups?
[21:54] <Carlin0> puoi provare a reinstallarlo anche senza rimuoverlo
[21:54] <Carlin0> sudo apt-get install --reinstall cups
[21:55] <ciro> fatto, adesso?
[21:57] <ciro> Carlin0:non è che devo riavviare il pc per rivederlo in funzione?
[21:58] <Carlin0> ciro ti ho già detto → <Carlin0> mi spiace ciro non so aiutarti
[21:58] <ciro> ok, grazie per quello che mi hai potuto consigliare sino ad ora
[21:59] <hallino1> ciro: prova a chiedere sul sito chiedi.ubuntu-it.org
[21:59] <Carlin0> preferisco non dire cazzate e farti fare danni se non so , cerca di capire
[21:59] <ciro> Carlin0: ok
[22:02] <ciro> hallino1: grazie del consiglio
[22:02] <ciro> era mancata la rete
[22:02] <ciro> Carlin0:grazie ancora
[22:03] <Carlin0> eh però potevi pure dirlo che era in rete
[22:03] <Carlin0> !veggenti | ciro
[22:03] <ubot-it> ciro: Gli utenti di questo canale non sono in possesso di poteri magici, non possiedono sfere di cristallo e non sono nemmeno veggenti. Canonical non può permettersi un corso di stregoneria per i suoi collaboratori. Si chiede quindi, gentilmente, di esprimersi in maniera chiara e molto dettagliata.
[22:03] <ciro> non era in rete la stampante
[22:04] <ciro> il pc era uscito da internet
[22:04] <Carlin0> ahn
[22:05] <ciro> Carlin0:bellissimo il fatto sui veggenti!!! ;) hihihi
[22:05] <hallino1> Carlin0: il mitico comando non manca mai ahahah
[22:05] <ciro> sarebbe un bellissimo topic hihihih
[22:06] <ciro> giusto per promemori a chi entra
[22:07] <ciro> cmq mo faccio chiedi a ubuntu, anche se francamente non ricordo i moei dati di acceso
[22:08] <Carlin0> c'è anche il forum se è per questo, oppure ripassi in altri orari e trovi qualcuno + preparato di me
[22:09] <ciro> e se lo mett da tut'e due le parti (forum e chiedi)?
[22:09] <Carlin0> prova ...
[22:09] <ciro> vbbb
[22:09] <Carlin0> !chat
[22:09] <ubot-it> per qualsiasi argomento non inerente strettamente il supporto a ubuntu, /join #ubuntu-it-chat
[22:10] <ciro> mo vado di là, giusto per vedere di che si chatta
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2015-04-01-#ubuntu-es
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[02:05] <Guest75224> hola
[02:06] <Guest75224> alguien sabe como puedo registrarme acá con un nick y clave?
[02:07] <Guest75224> epale
[02:07] <Guest75224> hay alguien'?''?
[02:15] <Guest75224> hola merrick
[07:12] * merrick buenas..
[08:10] <fzeta> hi all! ¿Algún traductor excelente para instalar? gracias!
[14:44] <CarlosNeyPastor> Buenas
[14:44] <CarlosNeyPastor> alguien que le pueda hacer una pregunta
[14:44] <CarlosNeyPastor> ?
[14:48] <noseasasi> solo habla, si alguien puede o quiere contestará
[14:52] <CarlosNeyPastor> ok
[14:52] <CarlosNeyPastor> que es linux-image-extra-3.16.0-33-generic en mi / de mi maquina
[14:53] <CarlosNeyPastor> diculpa que consulte asi, es que ya he hecho varias consultas y tras un tiempo no he obtenido respuesta
[14:56] <noseasasi> http://es.wikipedia.org/wiki/N%C3%BAcleo_Linux
[14:58] <CarlosNeyPastor> geanial!
[14:58] <CarlosNeyPastor> gracias por el link
[14:58] <CarlosNeyPastor> te pido discullpas si no procedi de forma correcta en el canal
[14:59] <noseasasi> busca de forma más eficiente, te aviso que lo preguntaste no te lo contestarán en todos los ambientes
[14:59] <noseasasi> esto sin ganas de hacerte sentir mal...
[14:59] <noseasasi> ;_)
[15:00] <noseasasi> ;-)
[15:00] <CarlosNeyPastor> no, lo se
[15:00] <CarlosNeyPastor> en este caso la pregunta es un tanto compleja, pero la otra consulta era basica de ususario
[15:01] <CarlosNeyPastor> por unas cosas que no encontraba
[15:01] <CarlosNeyPastor> y luego fue una opinion
[15:01] <CarlosNeyPastor> si no te molesta te consulto a ti
[15:02] <noseasasi> por el canal, a todos, yo no soy más que nadie
[15:02] <noseasasi> más guapo sí!
[15:02] <noseasasi> O:-)
[15:03] <CarlosNeyPastor> siempre he usado VirtualBox, por un tema de comodidad y ser libre, pero varias personas me han dicho que VMWare es mucho mejor, pero cuando les pregutno cual es la diferencia no me dan diferencia
[15:03] <CarlosNeyPastor> jaja
[15:03] <CarlosNeyPastor> yo los veo a todos iguales...
[15:03] <CarlosNeyPastor> :P
[15:03] <CarlosNeyPastor> igual para mi IRC es lo mas.
[15:03] <noseasasi> en mi caso que sólo soy usuario da igual el uso del que quieras, pero los administradores de sistemas los utilizan según conveniencias de administración
[15:04] <noseasasi> y no hay sólo dos hay varios más
[15:04] <CarlosNeyPastor> si, he visto que hay varios
[15:04] <noseasasi> utiliza el que te sirva y si ves algún otro investiga por si te es más útil.
[15:05] <noseasasi> pero lo mejor es muy personal de cada uno
[15:05] <CarlosNeyPastor> en mi caso la qiuero para emular software que no puedo usar nativamente o no quiero "manchar" mi linux con archivos basura (no se si se entiende) y para realizar pruebas tengo uqe hacerlos en otros sistemas
[15:05] <CarlosNeyPastor> le voy a dar un uso basico mas que nada
[15:05] <noseasasi> para mí, virtualbox
[15:05] <noseasasi> ya estoy familiarizado y punto
[15:06] <CarlosNeyPastor> si, en mi caso tambien y las diferencias que encontre es que negocia con el hardware directaemtne y no es virtualizado, como virtualbox
[15:06] <CarlosNeyPastor> y al negociar con el hardware puede generar un conflico y el resto de las diferencias es en las versiones pagas
[15:08] <CarlosNeyPastor> Te entiendo, y tengo la misma postura basicamente, pero el tema es que al encontrar tantas personas que me dicen lo mismo me hicieron dudar
[15:09] <CarlosNeyPastor> no se si soy claro,
[15:09] <CarlosNeyPastor> igual por un tema de filosofia uso VBox
[15:10] <noseasasi> es tu decisión, yo no necesito "hilar tan fino" (algo tan especifico)
[15:12] <CarlosNeyPastor> si, te enciendo, queria encontrar una opinion de alguien, ya que muchos dicen que es mejor, pero no saben por qué...
[15:12] <CarlosNeyPastor> igual hice una investigacion y probe vmware en un pc mio
[15:12] <CarlosNeyPastor> pero queria puntos de vista
[15:17] <noseasasi> perfecto pues a esperar otros puntos de vista, jeje
[15:32] <CarlosNeyPastor> jeje
[15:32] <CarlosNeyPastor> es verdad!
[15:33] <CarlosNeyPastor> Gracias por ti tempo
[17:21] <jabolele> hola
[17:22] <jabolele> quien le gusta pokémon ?
[17:23] <cousteau> un interesante tema de conversación para #ubuntu-es-cafe
[17:26] <starrion> cousteau: eso que es , quiero informarme
[17:26] <cousteau> un canal distinto a #ubuntu-es donde se habla de cosas no relacionadas con ubuntu
[17:27] <starrion> ah
[17:27] <starrion> voy para allá
[17:27] <cousteau> (pero con algunos de lso participantes de #ubuntu-es)
[17:27] <cousteau> básicamente, el canal de charla :)
[17:27] <starrion> oh :0 perfecto
[18:18] <kal_cividFajdida> ayuda con configuracion tarjeta red configuracion de velocidad y duplex me parece que no esta funcionando a 100 mb/s pero no lo veo...http://paste.debian.net/hidden/0680da44/
[19:02] <alejandro_> hola
[19:02] <alejandro_> hay alguien?
[19:03] <Guest42497> hola amigos
[19:03] <mimecar> pregunta durectamente
[19:03] <Guest42497> me gustaria saber como hacer las particiones para instaar ubuntu en ssd
[19:03] <Guest42497> alguna idea?
[19:03] <mimecar> depende del tamaño del disco
[19:04] <mimecar> y si es SSD o lleva también un disco normal
[19:04] <Guest42497> tengo un ssd de 32 y un hdd de 1tb
[19:04] <mimecar> 15 GB para / en el SSD
[19:04] <Guest42497> la idea es poder instalar bcache
[19:04] <mimecar> swap y /home en el otro disco
[19:04] <Guest42497> y acelerar el hdd
[19:05] <Guest42497> bcache lo preparo antes de instalar nada?
[19:07] <mimecar> http://www.kloppenborg.net/blog/2014/10/26/installing-ubuntu-1410-with-a-ssd-bcache/
[19:07] <Guest42497> como hago para saber que tamaño tiene mi root actual?
[19:07] <mimecar> df -h te lo puede decir
[19:07] <mimecar> ya tienes instalado ubuntu en ese equipo?
[19:07] <Guest42497> no tengo mint
[19:08] <Guest42497> pero quiero empezar desde 0
[19:08] <Guest42497> con una instalacion limpia
[19:08] <Guest42497> la pagina que me muestras ya la he visitado, pero es para otro caso
[19:08] <Guest42497> cuado ya esta instalado el linux
[19:09] <mimecar> instala primero y luego activa bcache
[19:09] <mimecar> no se si el instalador normal te dejará hacer otro orden
[19:25] <Guest42497> gracias
[19:25] <Guest42497> voy a probar con esta instalacion en ese caso
[19:49] <ubuntu_> hola
[19:52] <clinggg> hola saludos desde España
[20:37] <successus_> salud, hasta otro rato o/
[21:23] <starrion> olle nadie va a soltar un tema ?
[22:42] <nosTaLGic> Basque hi
[22:42] <Basque> hi there :)
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2015-04-01-#juju
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[04:03] <redelmann_> mh... is safe to use block-storage-broker from charmes in trusty?
[04:03] <redelmann_> easy as cloning to /trusty/ and deploying?
[04:05] <redelmann_> well, there are a lot of fork of official block-storage-broker
[04:06] <redelmann_> I'll assume that it's safe
[06:18] <stub> redelmann: bsb works fine in trusty. I don't know if there is a reason it hasn't been promulgated.
[06:26] <gnuoy`> jamespage, I have 3 mps to support dvr if you get a sec http://paste.ubuntu.com/10716710/
[06:56] <gnuoy`> jamespage, and another unrelated small one if you have time https://code.launchpad.net/~gnuoy/charms/trusty/keystone/token-expiry/+merge/254870
[07:10] <jamespage> gnuoy`, keystone reviewed and landed
[07:10] <jamespage> I also synced up the kilo template with ed's pki stuff
[07:10] <gnuoy`> jamespage, thanks!
[07:11] <jamespage> gnuoy`, nice to have a unit test for the charm-helper change
[07:11] <jamespage> ?
[07:12] <gnuoy`> jamespage, sure, I'll do that now
[07:13] <jam> hey jamespage. I had a "quick" question for you
[07:13] <jamespage> jam: fireaway
[07:13] <jam> elmo had mentioned that he'd really like cgroup QoS for the Openstack charms
[07:13] <jam> is that something you're part of ?
[07:14] <jam> jamespage: I think he CC'd you on the last email I had with him.
[07:15] <jamespage> jam: he did
[07:32] <jamespage> gnuoy`, neutron-openvswitch has lint and test errors/failures
[07:32] <gnuoy`> urgh, sorry about that. I could have sworn I fixed those up
[07:39] <jamespage> gnuoy`, one bigish comment on your neutron-api change
[07:39] <jamespage> it looks to complex
[07:39] <jamespage> (see MP for details)
[07:39] <jamespage> all you want todo is pass the data from keystone down to neutron-openvswitch right?
[07:39] <jamespage> so the remapping looks surplus and inefficient
[07:40] <gnuoy`> Well, I've had mps bounced before for not being explicit about what I'm expecting and setting and acting as a blind proxy
[07:41] <gnuoy`> jamespage, I'll take a look. I've updated the charm helpers mp
[07:41] <jamespage> gnuoy`, oh wait I see
[07:43] <gnuoy`> jamespage,I think your way would leave the keystone settings in place even if the keystone <-> neutron-api relation was removed
[07:43] <gnuoy`> which I think is wrong
[07:43] <jamespage> gnuoy`, you'r right
[07:44] <jamespage> gnuoy`, also the context does some remapping from what keystone provides
[07:44] <jamespage> specifically tenant, username and password
[07:44] <gnuoy`> jamespage, hmm, that may not be useful tbh
[07:44] <gnuoy`> the remapping
[07:44] <jamespage> so to re-use the same context in openvswitch, you need todo what you've done
[07:44] <gnuoy`> ah, yes
[07:45] <gnuoy`> that's why
[07:45] <gnuoy`> yesterday was sooo long ago
[07:45] <jamespage> gnuoy`, can you add auth_protocol to the list as well please
[07:45] <jamespage> just in case we need that sometime
[07:45] <gnuoy`> jamespage, sure. I need to step out for 30mins but will do it when I get back
[07:45] <jamespage> (I have it in my head that's required for kilo but I'm prob wrong)
[07:45] <jamespage> gnuoy`, ack
[09:00] <gnuoy`> ssh chure
[09:35] <jamespage> gnuoy`, https://code.launchpad.net/~james-page/charms/trusty/rabbitmq-server/bug-1439085/+merge/254882
[09:41] <gnuoy`> jamespage, approved
[10:01] <philip_stoev> What is the canonical way for obtaining the information about a juju inteface endpoint? For example, if I have a mysql charm, how can I see, using the command line, the username and password that have been generated?
[10:02] <philip_stoev> The only solution I could find was to use juju debug-hooks, but it does not work for me -- relation-get is not found
[10:19] <stub> philip_stoev: You can use 'juju run --unit=foo/0 relation-ids', 'juju run --unit=foo/0 relation-get'
[10:20] <stub> philip_stoev: Of if your fingers get tired, install the juju-relinfo package from ppa:stub/juju to give yourself the 'juju relation-get' and 'juju relation-set' commands
[10:37] <philip_stoev> thank you!
[11:29] <gnuoy`> jamespage, http://paste.ubuntu.com/10716710/ are ready for review if you have a moment
[11:29] <jamespage> gnuoy`, going to have lunch - will do them when I get back
[11:29] <jamespage> gnuoy`, zmq is testing well now
[11:29] <gnuoy`> \o/
[11:30] <jamespage> gnuoy`, just polishing things
[11:30] <jamespage> gnuoy`, well for nova and neutron
[11:30] <jamespage> cinder appears quite broken
[11:31] <jamespage> gnuoy`, nested kvm appears a little happer now as well
[11:31] <jamespage> no drops all this morning
[11:32] <gnuoy`> jamespage, same here, I've done multiple big deploys this morning and no drops
[11:32] <jamespage> gnuoy`, did you see my comment re removing the downed rmq broker?
[11:32] <jamespage> it was first in all the lists so was causing lag
[11:33] <gnuoy`> jamespage, could we have tuned the timout value ?
[11:33] <jamespage> maybe
[11:33] * jamespage looks
[11:34] <gnuoy`> dosaboy, I was planning on getting some of the le branches merged to next this afternoon. Are you working on them atm?
[11:47] <dosaboy> gnuoy: lets discuss ;)
[12:44] <jamespage> gnuoy, charmhelper merged - looking at charms now
[12:54] <jamespage> gnuoy, all done and merged - thanks!
[12:56] <gnuoy> jamespage, fantastic. thanks for all your review/merge efforts
[12:56] <jamespage> gnuoy, I'm pretty happy with this lot - http://paste.ubuntu.com/10718125/
[12:57] <jamespage> I need to look at glance and cinder still
[12:57] <jamespage> + ceilometer
[12:57] <jamespage> but nova/neutron is all good for 0mq
[12:57] <gnuoy> jamespage, ack, I'll take a look
[12:57] <jamespage> gnuoy, ta
[12:58] <jamespage> gnuoy, you can run that against the kilo staging ppa
[12:58] <jamespage> ppa:ubuntu-cloud-archive/kilo-staging
[12:58] <jamespage> but keystone needs a hack right now with next branch as its not at b3 yet in archive (waiting MIR's)
[13:08] <gnuoy> jamespage, the neutron-ovs one needs rebasing
[13:09] <gnuoy> I would guess compute, api and gateway probably will too
[13:12] <jamespage> urgh - Ok I'll check
[13:12] <jamespage> I suspect I just hosed myself by landing your bits first....
[13:21] <jcastro> Odd_Bloke, any luck with your problem?
[14:21] <jamespage> gnuoy, they should all be good now
[14:21] <gnuoy> jamespage, thanks. Do, you have a bundle I can prod at?
[14:23] <jamespage> gnuoy, oct bundles/0mq
[14:23] <gnuoy> ack
[14:28] <Odd_Bloke> jcastro: I haven't really looked at it; I was just playing around in downtime during test runs.
[14:28] * jcastro nods
[14:54] <lazyPower> If anyone missed the charmers meeting and wanted to catch up - the video is here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=99iiQCypEGI
[15:00] <apuimedo> cool having the meetings recorded :-)
[15:01] <mbruzek> yeah +1 on the recorded meetings
[15:11] <mbruzek> tvansteenburgh: If I use the jenkins test runner will I get the new isolated containers on Jenkins?
[15:12] <tvansteenburgh> yes
[15:12] <mbruzek> across all clouds?
[15:12] <tvansteenburgh> yes
[15:12] <mbruzek> thanks
[15:29] <gnuoy> jamespage, I've landed your 0mq branches. Thanks!
[15:37] <jamespage> gnuoy, awesome - thankyou
[16:12] <ennoble> Does the action feature flag work with 1.22? I can't seem to get actions to work. I have JUJU_DEV_FEATURE_FLAG="action" destroyed my environment, re-created the environment and then juju help action or juju action both return "ERROR unknown command or topic for action"
[16:14] <jw4> ennoble: yes it's in 1.22
[16:15] <jw4> ennoble: the envar is plural... JUJU_DEV_FEATURE_FLAGS
[16:15] <ennoble> any idea why i can't quite get it to work... the user feature flag works (jes) and enables help user
[16:16] <ennoble> jw4: is setting the environment variable enough or do I need to destroy and re-create the environment too?
[16:17] <jw4> ennoble: just setting the feature flag should be sufficient
[16:17] <ennoble> jw4: thanks, it's working; I appreciate it
[16:17] <jw4> ennoble: you're welcome :)
[16:18] <ennoble> jw4: it will become the default in 1.23?
[16:18] <jw4> ennoble: yes
[16:52] <marcoceppi_> ennoble: 1.23-beta1 is out in the ppa:juju/devel repository if you wanted to try it out
[16:53] <marcoceppi_> ennoble: there are also docker containers that have the dev release in them if you want to try them out in isolation
[17:45] <ennoble> Is there a way to run the juju orchestration server on the same system that's running MaaS? I don't want to use one of the machines MaaS is managing for that functionality, but I assume if I create another non-MaaS environment that won't work.
[17:55] <marcoceppi_> ennoble: you can create a KVM on the MAAS machine and enlist it in maas then have the juju bootstrap node deployed to it
[17:59] <ennoble> thank macroeppi_ that will probably do the trick
[18:55] <skay> is it possible to use docker and mount both my .juju directory and a local charm that I want to test? https://github.com/juju-solutions/charmbox/blob/master/README.md#using-charmbox-with-existing-juju
[18:56] <skay> it looks like I can only do one or the other
[18:58] * lazyPower reads scrollback
[18:59] <lazyPower> skay: oh you sure can!
[18:59] <cory_fu> skay: You can. You'll want to mount the trusty directory under /home/ubuntu/trusty
[18:59] <lazyPower> skay: you pass the -v to volume mount
[18:59] <lazyPower> let me fetch the readme 1 sec
[18:59] <skay> lazyPower: I can pass more than one -v?
[18:59] <lazyPower> https://github.com/whitmo/jujubox/blob/master/charmbox.md
[18:59] <lazyPower> sure can!
[18:59] <cory_fu> You just can't mount the whole JUJU_REPOSITORY directory directly, since it will overwrite the .juju folder
[18:59] <skay> lazyPower: I linked the readme up there!
[19:00] <lazyPower> skay: the charmbox has an illustration of 2 -v mounts
[19:00] <lazyPower> slightly different than the base jujubox
[19:00] <skay> lazyPower: okiedokie. I am pretty excited if I can get this to work.
[19:03] <skay> lazyPower: which version of docker does the readme assume? -f isn't a valid flag
[19:03] <skay> I've got 1.2.0 build fa7b24f
[19:03] <lazyPower> 1.3 plus
[19:03] <lazyPower> i'm personally running 1.5 provided from the docker PPA
[19:04] <lazyPower> 1.2.x is really old... i believe we're offering 1.3.1 in distro in trusty
[19:04] <skay> I thought I was using the ppa, but I guess I screwed it up somehow
[19:04] <lazyPower> thanks for pointing that out though, i'll open a bug about that
[19:04] <skay> and I updated from trusty to utopic a few weeks ago
[19:06] <lazyPower> https://github.com/whitmo/jujubox/issues/17
[19:16] <skay> I've fallen down a weird rabbit hole
[19:17] <lazyPower> skay: uh oh - whats going on?
[19:17] <skay> lazyPower: it's not any of you, it's me. I can't figure out how to upgrade docker. I must have installed it in some bizarro way
[19:18] <skay> lazyPower: I tried sudo apt-get uninstalling it, and installing it and the system thinks I have 1.5.x instealled, but when I run it, It still tell sme it's the other version
[19:19] <skay> I'm quiet sure once I get that settled I'll be able to do things. I ran a test with the other box successfully
[19:23] <skay> lazyPower: which ppa are you using?
[19:24] <lazyPower> skay: deb https://get.docker.com/ubuntu docker main
[19:25] <lazyPower> skay: have you tried 'which docker' to see where the bin in $PATH is overriding the ppa provided docker binary?
[19:26] <skay> lazyPower: I did, and I wasn't sure which package installed it. One of my friends walked me through using dpkg -S against the binary to figure out which package it belonged to. culprit was docker.io
[19:26] <lazyPower> thats the distro package, lxc-docker is the ppa package
[19:26] <lazyPower> yeah, those two dont play nice together, at all
[19:32] <ennoble> is there a way to prevent juju from freeing a MaaS machine after you destroy a service running on it?
[19:32] <ennoble> Juju seems overly eager to clean-up and it's extremely annoying to have to wait 8 minutes for Maas to re-provision the machine
[19:35] <ennoble> it seems like i should have to run juju destroy-machine or destroy-environment for the machine to be freed based on the documentation, but in practice it just happens immediately after the service is destroyed
[19:42] <skay> lazyPower: thanks, btw. I have it installed properly and was able to build the charmbox
[19:42] <lazyPower> \o/
[20:03] <skay> alrighty, I can run tests woohoo.
[20:06] <lazyPower> skay: glad we got you sorted :)
[20:09] <skay> today's goal is to add basenode support to block-storage-broker. I see that charmhelpers has an execd_preinstall helper for that, but I also see a lot of charms doing this in very many ways
[20:09] <skay> any reason for me NOT to use execd_preinstall?
[20:14] <blr> skay: the b-s-b charm already supports basenode
[20:14] <skay> blr: it does? I did something wrong then. it wasn't working in my environment
[20:15] <skay> blr: I don't see where it happens in the source. could you show me?
[20:47] <skay> this adds basenode support to block-storage-broker. https://code.launchpad.net/~codersquid/charms/precise/block-storage-broker/basenode-support
[20:47] <skay> I'm not sure it's good for a merge request
[21:29] <lazyPower> tvansteenburgh: for tomorow - https://github.com/juju-solutions/bundletester/issues/15
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2015-04-01-#xubuntu
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[02:14] <eikon81g> !server
[03:03] <eikon81g> bluesabre, or Unit193 are you available for a second for a question?
[03:22] <Unit193> Why not ask a question and see/
[04:23] <xubuntu62w> hey
[04:24] <xubuntu62w> I have a problem with sound, it doesn't work
[04:59] <mpmc> Morning folks, trying to boot a daily build 15.04 iso via a usb stick on my thinkpad and it begins to load but then I get "unable to find a medium containing a live file system". I'm going to burn it to a dvd and try it that way, very odd!
[05:17] <Enkidu_ak> mpmc: Do you have iommu enabled?
[05:17] <Enkidu_ak> mpmc: In the bios, I mean
[05:17] <mpmc> Enkidu_ak: Not sure, but I just tried a dvd and it froze.
[05:18] <mpmc> Now I'm getting Magic is broken!
[05:18] <Enkidu_ak> mpmc: Go into your bios, look for iommu. You should find it with legacy usb and pci bus settings.
[05:19] <mpmc> k, I'll take a poke.
[05:23] <mpmc> Enkidu_ak: Had a poke about, no iommu settings, however UEFI/Legacy boot is set to UEFI only.
[05:24] <Enkidu_ak> mpmc: What mb are you using?
[05:25] <mpmc> Enkidu_ak: Its a thinkpad laptop [Edge E525 (1200 CTO I think)
[05:28] <mpmc> Changing UEFI/LB to both looks like it may have done the trick! well it still loading from the CD but it hasn't borked yet! Fingers crossed!.
[05:30] <mpmc> Woot I see a desktop!
[05:31] <Enkidu_ak> mpmc: Ah. I had a similar issue and discovered that iommu had to be enabled for kernel 3 to play nice with usb 3 and some ethernet chipsets. Glad that it was less complicated :)
[05:31] <Enkidu_ak> mpmc: I'm still not sure what iommu is exactly.
[05:31] <mpmc> I had 14.04 (Lubuntu) on it before with UEFI only & that ran fine. :s
[05:56] <linux_unix-10> hi
[05:58] <baizon> hi | linux_unix-10
[05:58] <linux_unix-10> i'm trying to install flash player and have it run in midori but i can't install nspluginwrapper
[05:59] <linux_unix-10> it can't find nspluginviewer
[05:59] <baizon> linux_unix-10: there is a linux version of flash
[05:59] <linux_unix-10> tried to manually force-install (32-bit) but it got stuck in dependency hell
[06:00] <baizon> linux_unix-10: install the linux version and create a link, that should solve the problem
[06:06] <linux_unix-10> linux version installed, but midori can't detect it
[06:08] <linux_unix-10> how do i create a link?
[06:11] <baizon> linux_unix-10: ou well i think you need nspluginwrapper
[06:11] <linux_unix-10> exactly my problem
[06:11] <baizon> so much dirty work to do
[06:11] <Unit193> export MOZ_PLUGIN_PATH="/usr/lib/mozilla/plugins" or for me since I have adobe-flashplugin, export MOZ_PLUGIN_PATH="/usr/lib/adobe-flashplugin/"
[06:11] <baizon> install the nspluginwrapper
[06:13] <linux_unix-10> can't install: The following packages have unmet dependencies:
[06:13] <linux_unix-10> nspluginwrapper : Depends: nspluginviewer (= 1.4.4-0ubuntu5) but it is not installable
[06:13] <linux_unix-10> E: Unable to correct problems, you have held broken packages.
[06:13] <baizon> linux_unix-10: https://wiki.xfce.org/midori/faq#flash_doesn_t_work
[06:14] <baizon> linux_unix-10: nspluginviewer is not available for 64 bit version
[06:14] <baizon> linux_unix-10: sudo apt-get install nspluginviewer:i386
[06:15] <linux_unix-10> can't locate package
[06:17] <baizon> linux_unix-10: http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?keywords=nspluginviewer&searchon=names&suite=all§ion=all
[06:17] <baizon> pick the right one and download
[06:17] <baizon> then install via dpkg
[06:24] <linux_unix-10> no dice
[06:24] <linux_unix-10> dpkg: dependency problems prevent configuration of nspluginviewer:
[06:24] <linux_unix-10> nspluginviewer depends on libc6 (>= 2.15).
[06:24] <linux_unix-10> nspluginviewer depends on libgcc1 (>= 1:4.1.1).
[06:24] <linux_unix-10> nspluginviewer depends on libglib2.0-0 (>= 2.24.0).
[06:24] <linux_unix-10> nspluginviewer depends on libgtk2.0-0 (>= 2.24.0).
[06:24] <linux_unix-10> nspluginviewer depends on libx11-6.
[06:24] <linux_unix-10> nspluginviewer depends on libxt6.
[06:25] <baizon> linux_unix-10: sudo apt-get install -f
[06:25] <baizon> that should fix it
[06:26] <linux_unix-10> nothing
[12:22] <xubuntu06o> alien
[12:23] <xubuntu06o> is there anyone?
[12:24] <xubuntu06o> I need help to let my epson scanner work with Xubuntu
[12:24] <bazhang> !info simple-scan
[12:25] <bazhang> try that ^ xubuntu06o
[12:26] <xubuntu06o> I have tried but it recognizes the scanner but it does not work properly
[12:27] <bazhang> what do you mean 'properly'
[12:28] <xubuntu06o> Seems to start then it immediately stops
[12:29] <xubuntu06o> with Windows Xp it worked well until yesterday
[12:31] <xubuntu06o> when I launch preview it blocks on it
[12:31] <xubuntu06o> it started
[12:32] <xubuntu06o> I just canceled the value for pre-heating
[12:32] <xubuntu06o> thanks
[12:32] <bazhang> it works now?
[14:03] <phre4k> when I uninstall light-locker, does the screen not get locked anymore?
[14:03] <phre4k> how can I prevent the screen from being locked automatically? The light-locker-settings app doesn't seem to channge anything.
[14:14] <nomic> phrek there is another screensaver which is still affexting
[14:14] <nomic> xset -display :0 s off
[14:14] <nomic> xset -display :0 -dpms
[14:14] <nomic> xset -display :0 s noblank
[14:14] <nomic> put those commands into your .bashrc or autorun, as a script to kill the x screensaver xset q will show you that it is active
[14:15] <cfhowlett> nomic, xscreensaver has been known to conflict with lightlocker according to xfce.org
[14:15] <nomic> the facility of light locker has over-ridden the old screen saver admin (which was working) - it does not stop the xset screensaver from blanking your screen - this is a problem
[14:15] <nomic> ie. its affects everyone - and has not been fixed -- light locker has caused problems
[14:15] <nomic> it does
[14:16] <nomic> you must issue those xset commands to disable the x screen saver
[14:16] <nomic> screen saver / linux - screensaver is like a trojan imo
[14:16] <phre4k> the problem is not that the screen blanks but the locking
[14:16] <nomic> the locking also
[14:16] <nomic> is because of your power manager
[14:16] <nomic> which you cannot turn off
[14:16] <nomic> without
[14:17] <phre4k> so dpms controls screen locking too?
[14:17] <phre4k> and I can't disable automatic locking at all?
[14:17] <phre4k> wtf is this sh...?
[14:17] <nomic> the admin isn't good it isn't fixed
[14:17] <nomic> this hasn't been addressed imo
[14:17] <nomic> there are multiple fixes
[14:18] <nomic> some genius decided to create this "light locker" which is not addressing anything
[14:18] <nomic> sounds cood - great name "light locker"
[14:18] <knome> nomic, please.
[14:18] <nomic> things worked, before
[14:18] <phre4k> so how do I fix this asap?
[14:18] <nomic> well anyway - I stopped the screensaver kicking in with those xset settings - to stop the power manager locking my screen when the lid is closed, I had to do something else fiddly (i forget)
[14:19] <nomic> both through the command line
[14:19] <knome> phre4k, please remember that this is a family friendly channel and your language should match that.
[14:19] <nomic> ask the experts there may be some here
[14:19] <nomic> did I swear?
[14:19] <nomic> no.
[14:19] <phre4k> nomic: he meant me
[14:19] <nomic> im out of here I tried to help .. bbl
[14:21] <phre4k> so to prevent the screen from locking, I'd do xset -dpms, disable it in light-locker-settings and xfce4-power-manager?
[14:21] <phre4k> Or are there any other steps?
[14:21] <nomic> that turns off your power manager I think -dpms
[14:21] <brainvvash_> if you don't need screen locking, why not simply uninstall light-locker?
[14:21] <nomic> it locks when
[14:22] <nomic> i'd certainly do that
[14:22] <nomic> (uninstall light locker)
[14:22] <nomic> other people have defeated the issue by uninstalling power manager
[14:23] <nomic> this is drastic surgery .. cut cut - throw organs out
[14:23] <nomic> maybe not needed
[14:23] <nomic> stops immediate problem
[14:23] <nomic> btw. when was a screen saver needed, -- it must have been last needed in 1982
[14:23] <phre4k> brainvvash_: that was what I asked
[14:24] <knome> nomic, i've sent you a PM and i expect you to have read it.
when I uninstall light-locker, does the screen not get locked anymore?
[14:24] <phre4k> I will now try to uninstall light-locker and look if this solves the problem.
[14:53] <msev> would the pushbullet indicator work in xfce? (I have xfce 4.12 installed on top of ubuntu 14.04)
[14:53] <msev> since now there's a desktop indicator I've read (and not just a browser extension)
[14:57] <msev> from atareo-team I believe
[14:59] <knome> you would have to ask the developers of that indicator
[15:00] <knome> (or maybe just try if it works...)
[15:00] <msev> ok :)
[15:00] <msev> so there isn't some general rule, that all ubuntu indicators work also in xfce?
[15:02] <knome> general rules are general, not always applying to a specific case (which is what you are asking)
[15:02] <msev> cool, tnx
[17:55] <pl> Hi. I'm trying xubuntu 15.04. There is something I don't get: the resize grips of windows is too small (1px), it's unusable. I read that I should set a theme with a bigger grip. I installed xfwm4-themes, but no new theme shows up in the Appearance settings window.
[17:55] <pl> what am I missing?
[17:56] <brainvvash_> pl, settings manager > window manager
[17:57] <elfy> also try resizing with alt+right mouse button
[17:57] <elfy> easier anyway imho
[18:08] <pl> brainvvash_, thanks
[18:09] <brainvvash_> pl, if you want to invest some time, take a look at http://sevkeifert.blogspot.de/2014/12/increase-window-border-size-in-xubuntu.html
[18:10] <pl> brainvvash_, I will, thanks
[18:47] <KM0201> so i'm dealing w/ soemone who hosed their menu trying to edit it... is there a way to return it to default, and start over? xubuntu 14.04
[18:48] <KM0201> anyone?
[19:17] <bynarie> maybe try removing xubuntu-defaults and reinstalling it?
[19:17] <bynarie> not sure
[19:17] <bynarie> sorry its xubuntu-default-settings
[19:20] <knome> he's gone ages ago, and no, that's not going to overwrite the personal settings done by the user
[19:21] <mrkramps> rm ~/.config/menus/xfce-applications.menu should do the trick
[19:22] <knome> and removing the custom .desktop files, if any
[19:22] <bynarie> ah
[19:22] <bynarie> good to know
[19:22] <knome> from ~/.local/share/applications/
[19:29] <pl> Is there a way to autolock the session on xubuntu 15.10?
[19:31] <bazhang> there is no such version
[19:31] <pl> sorry
[19:31] <pl> 15.04
[19:31] <bazhang> ask in #ubuntu+1
[19:32] <pl> but I think it's xfce-related
[19:33] <bazhang> then try the xfce channel, vivid is the above channel
[19:38] <Unit193> bazhang: Xubuntu post beta is supported here too.
[19:38] <Unit193> pl: Xubuntu ships with light-locker, which is used to lock the session.
[19:38] <pl> Hi Unit193 :)
[19:38] <bazhang> Unit193, ok apologies
[19:38] <Unit193> Heya!
[19:39] <Unit193> bazhang: No problem, I know it differes from usual.
[19:39] <pl> Unit193, indeed it's what I use with lightdm, but I was looking for an easy menu setting, as the computer I'm configuring is not for me
[19:42] <Unit193> pl: You can add the "Action Buttons" to the panel, which will allow you to select to switch user/lock screen.
[19:43] <Unit193> Or even create a launcher with menulibre or in whisker itself for `xflock4`
[20:01] <scrapcode> my software updater window shakes when I try to install the new updates. I've caught it via screenshot and it says I don't have the permissions.
[20:10] <knome> scrapcode, do you?
[20:11] <knome> scrapcode, or in other words, can you do other things that require the sudo access?
[20:24] <scrapcode> knome: No... but I don't understand why anything has changed? It shakes and closes immediately. I can gksu the software center just fine
[20:24] <scrapcode> I found something on stackexchg last week about a config file to check that had perms but I can't find it now. However, that all looked like it should according to the resource that I was following
[20:25] <scrapcode> I really wouldn't mind if I could just get the "You have new updates" window to stop displaying and be done with it
[21:13] <gnumbknuts> Could some-one please tell me where I might find a xfwm theme that has wide grab resize corners? I wish to copy the bottom-left-active.xpm ...etc files into the Bluebird them .
[21:13] <gnumbknuts> Could some-one please tell me where I might find a xfwm theme that has wide grab resize corners? I wish to copy the bottom-left-active.xpm ...etc files into the Bluebird them .
[21:16] <CountryfiedLinux> howdy
[21:17] <gjgarza> hi
[21:17] <CountryfiedLinux> Is there a link with the official wallpaper for 15.04? I'd rather not download and boot it just to get a wallpaper.
[21:19] <knome> you can download the xubuntu-artwork package for 15.40
[21:19] <knome> *15.04
[21:20] <mrkramps> you could also download its source package and extract it
[21:20] <knome> well, xubuntu-wallpapers really
[21:20] <knome> that exactly
[21:21] <mrkramps> CountryfiedLinux, http://packages.ubuntu.com/vivid/xubuntu-wallpapers
[21:23] <CountryfiedLinux> cool thanks mrkramps
[21:23] <msev> is "snappy" different than "ubuntu core"? :)
[21:23] <msev> or are those two names for the same thing?
[21:24] <mrkramps> msev, https://developer.ubuntu.com/en/snappy/
[21:25] <msev> so same thing :)
[21:25] <mrkramps> nope
[21:25] <msev> dang
[21:25] <msev> ok now I atleast know the answer
[21:25] <msev> :D
[21:25] <mrkramps> it is some kind of optimized image for this so called internet of things
[21:26] <msev> so "snappy" is sort of an alternative to "apt-get"?
[21:27] <mrkramps> yes
[21:28] <msev> thanks
[22:43] <DazPetty> hey guys,
[22:43] <DazPetty> I am about to install xubuntu
[22:43] <DazPetty> I am running a dual boot
[22:43] <DazPetty> I allready have Manjaro linux installed, but it is corrupted
[22:44] <DazPetty> I am just going to erase it's partition
[22:44] <DazPetty> and install xubuntu
[22:44] <DazPetty> will it reinstall grub?
[22:44] <DazPetty> and everything will be fine?
[22:45] <mrkramps> yes, you just have to select the appropiate drive to overwrite your old grub installation
[22:48] <DazPetty> mrkramps, where is grub installed?
[22:48] <DazPetty> in my windows partition?
[22:49] <DazPetty> can I just get Xubuntu to overright my manjaro on install?
[22:50] <mrkramps> i have no idea where you installed grub, but i guess it it on your primary drive
[22:50] <CountryfiedLinux> You can write whatever you want over whatever you want to DazPetty
[22:50] <DazPetty> I'm just watching this tutorial https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZcbTgMKpVHQ
[22:50] <mrkramps> a new install will overwrite everything else in the selected partition
[22:51] <DazPetty> ye cool
[22:51] <DazPetty> I thought as much
[22:51] <DazPetty> I just want to be careful
[22:51] <DazPetty> I will backup as much as I can first
[22:51] <DazPetty> ~ A new install will reinstall grub though wont it (which is good)
[22:52] <DazPetty> mrkramps, it wouldn't install grub on the windows partition (or would it?)
[22:52] <mrkramps> you can select the drive in the installer
[22:53] <DazPetty> windows partitions are NTFS
[22:56] <mrkramps> and the grub bootloader will be installed in the master boot record … does not matter which file system the partitions on this drive will use
[22:57] <DazPetty> ok thanks, I'm going to go give it a try
[22:58] <mrkramps> just take care of a backup and you are always good to go
[23:43] <dazdaryl> hey guys
[23:43] <dazdaryl> I am installing xubuntu right now
[23:43] <dazdaryl> i have a swap drive from an old manjaro installation
[23:43] <Enkidu_ak> I'm trying to figure out how to install vivid onto a raid0 without resorting to Ubuntu server. The array is already configured, but mdadm won't be present on a standard installation, so the array won't be assembled at boot. I was thinking that after installation I would boot from a live image, chroot to the assembled array and install mdaadm manually.
[23:45] <knome> Enkidu_ak, minimal iso?
[23:45] <Enkidu_ak> knome: Minimal comes with mdadm?
[23:46] <dazdaryl> i have 24gb of ram
[23:46] <dazdaryl> should i do a 50gb swap partition?
[23:46] <dazdaryl> or will 16 gb do it?
[23:47] <dazdaryl> and I was going to give my root 140gb
[23:47] <dazdaryl> my home 800gb
[23:47] <dazdaryl> where does xubuntu install stuff? and steam install?
[23:52] <mrkramps> dazdaryl, do you make use of swap?
[23:53] <mrkramps> in terms of suspend to disk e.g.
[23:54] <mrkramps> root will unlikely require more than 20 GB, even with many packages installed and steam installs games in /home
[23:56] <dazdaryl> probably not mrcraps
[23:56] <dazdaryl> *mrkramps
[23:56] <dazdaryl> ~ on my old arch setup i had 80gb and it ran out
[23:56] <mrkramps> 80GB /root?!
[23:56] <dazdaryl> because i pretty much installed every other bloody thing from the respository
[23:57] <dazdaryl> yeah because arch's default location to install things was .opt
[23:57] <mrkramps> well, true
[23:57] <dazdaryl> I'm a game developer
[23:57] <dazdaryl> I went back to windows for a year to use some windows only tools :(
[23:57] <dazdaryl> now unreal engine 4 is working on linux :)
[23:57] <dazdaryl> so i'm going back
[23:58] <dazdaryl> ~ the software repositories aren't that recent
[23:58] <dazdaryl> so someone has suggested i build straight from git
[23:58] <mrkramps> which also can be done in /home
[23:59] <dazdaryl> yep
[23:59] <mrkramps> but anyways, you have quite some space on your drive - if you feel better with 140GB /root it is nothing wring about
[23:59] <dazdaryl> yeah its a 2tb disk
[23:59] <dazdaryl> got 1tb for windows
[23:59] <dazdaryl> 1 tb for linux
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[01:48] <daftykins> nice work virgin media ;)
[01:49] <daftykins> stable as a cow in a shopping trolley as is tradition
[02:34] <zmoylan-pi> well it's aprils fool day so you won't miss much for next 30 odd hours
[02:35] <daftykins> oh dear, yes
[02:40] <zmoylan-pi> daftykins, a massive hummingbird has just taken your hat and coat
[05:41] <knightwise> morning everyon e
[07:26] <diplo> Morning all
[08:06] <davmor2> Morning all
[08:08] <davmor2> popey: another much later catchy tune that isn't from the 80's https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4wSr7h_pjxs your welcome by theway
[08:13] <brobostigon> morning boys and girls.
[08:24] <bigcalm> Good morning peeps :)
[08:24] <Myrtti> morning
[08:24] <Myrtti> apparently dsample got the NVidia to work last night
[08:24] <Myrtti> so now I can play Cities on the laptop \o/
[08:24] <bigcalm> Yay
[08:24] <bigcalm> I've enjoyed watching somebody play on YouTube
[08:25] <bigcalm> Not really my thing to play myself though
[08:25] <Myrtti> http://twitch.tv/cleavetv (occasionally NSFW) and http://twitch.tv/simcopter1
[08:25] <Myrtti> those are what I watch
[08:26] <bigcalm> https://www.youtube.com/user/YogscastSips - pretty much everything is NSFW (language)
[08:26] <bigcalm> He plays a lot of things as well as Cities
[08:26] <Myrtti> Simcopter is even live now
[08:26] <Myrtti> he's a real life city planner, or was before becoming fulltime streamer
[08:40] <dogmatic69> I got a strange error http://pastebin.com/jHZjUFnJ
[08:41] <dogmatic69> any ideas? the if statment was coppied from a working similar file without any changes :/
[08:42] <foobarry> that <path> looks wrong. shouldn't you haev $PATH?
[08:43] <foobarry> actually just the correct path to the php files
[08:43] <foobarry> so not $PATH
[08:43] <dogmatic69> well its just a place holder so I dont paste the actual path online...
[08:44] <foobarry> ah, you didn't mention that :D
[08:44] <dutchie> morning
[08:46] <foobarry> dogmatic69: have you run them by hand?
[08:46] <dogmatic69> foobarry: ye, I just did an no errors
[08:48] <dogmatic69> the error makes it seam like bash is trying to pipe the contents of the variable into the number
[08:49] <foobarry> dunno, check for bad chars? i wouldn't implement that way, rather roll up into a single script that runs from crontab on the selected hours
[08:49] <dogmatic69> well that would just mean much more to manage in the cron jobs instead of in the file
[08:52] <foobarry> don't you need php -f ?
[08:56] <foobarry> seems to be multiple issues you have but the line numbers don't match the errors
[08:58] <dutchie> dogmatic69: i'd use something like "if [ $thishour -lt 5 ]; then" rather than ((
[08:58] <dutchie> or probably separate scripts really
[09:00] <dogmatic69> dutchie: separate scripts would be a massive pain, there is already a bunch of them...
[09:09] <JamesTait> Good morning all; happy Fun Day! :-D
[09:11] <TwistedLucidity> What's all this about Microsoft taking a 25% stake in Canoncial? Is it part of their mobile-drisruption strategy?
[09:11] * foobarry checks the date.
[09:11] <TwistedLucidity> Dammit
[09:11] <TwistedLucidity> Worth a shot though
[09:20] <foobarry> application crashes when X displayed onto 2 computers (1 intel fedora, 1 nouveau xubuntu), and works on 2 elementary (nvidia, intel)
[09:20] <popey> ho ho ho. minecraft was down this morning
[09:21] <foobarry> any ideas? screen mem? common driver issue? library issue?
[09:21] <popey> sam was most upset, none of the servers he wanted to connect to would work
[09:21] <popey> found http://xpaw.ru/mcstatus/ and told him to refresh that page, he can play when it's all green
[09:24] <bigcalm> Ah, school holiday?
[09:24] <popey> ya
[09:24] <foobarry> DOS attack happened to PSN on xmas day once didn't it?
[09:25] <popey> I'm working at czajkowski's today so he can play all he wants
[09:25] <foobarry> nice day outside
[09:25] <TwistedLucidity> And he's playing "Minecraft"? Yeesh! Why isn't he out cleaning the garden, paintint the fence or sweeping chimnies? Builds character!
[09:26] <foobarry> i painted the garden gate when i was 5
[09:26] <popey> well, wifey has just organised for him to go to a mates house to play
[09:26] <TwistedLucidity> foobarry: Lies. I got rained whilst walking the dog.
[09:26] <foobarry> still remember doing it
[09:27] <Myrtti> I've been a good wife and I set up dejadup on dsample's new laptop. Also changed his icon theme which he complained about, installed Evernote thing and now thinking of installing Sublime, too.
[09:27] <TwistedLucidity> I think the concept of "a day off" is lost in my house. I got to work for the break....
[09:27] <foobarry> going science museum next week
[09:27] <foobarry> along with the rest of the planet i expect :S
[09:29] <TwistedLucidity> Thanks for the reminder Myrtti
[09:29] <Myrtti> TwistedLucidity: backups?
[09:29] * TwistedLucidity makes note to *finally* resolve the back-up strategy
[09:30] <TwistedLucidity> I've got them, but none off-site and not automatic.
[09:30] <TwistedLucidity> Sorting back-ups does not count as "work". Only digging, painting or cleaning counts as "work". Swearing over poorly written documentation is, apparently, "enjoyment" :-(
[09:31] <Myrtti> yeah we should sort out the offsite backups too
[09:31] <foobarry> glacier?
[09:32] <TwistedLucidity> I was going to put an HP MicroServer in a friend's house and back-up there (with me holding his back-ups). But then they stopped making the G3 and upped the price to £silly.
[09:32] <TwistedLucidity> Guess a RasPi2 would more than suffice.
[09:33] <TwistedLucidity> Although the current plan is a few external HDDs and sneakernet.
[09:34] <dutchie> i should fix backups also
[09:34] <Myrtti> we've got both a ReadyNAS and an HP micro
[09:34] <dutchie> currently laptop is backed up, but not desktop because i haven't figured out systemd timers yet
[09:34] * dutchie uses http://tarsnap.com/
[09:35] <JamesTait> No, no - *yesterday* was backup day. Today is *fun* day. :)
[09:35] <TwistedLucidity> DejaDup, Backula (there's a few others) all seem to be doable. But I need to think how to back-up the VMs as well (maybe just use BTRFS snapshot or something).
[09:35] <JamesTait> AKA finding out your backups don't restore day. ;)
[09:36] <TwistedLucidity> Anyone encrypt their back-ups? How do you do the key management?
[09:37] <dutchie> http://pastie.org/private/jl3s65fdylnq3kjx40iqmg
[09:37] <dutchie> TwistedLucidity: tarsnap!
[09:37] <dutchie> it's the best
[09:38] <TwistedLucidity> Ah...OK. I assume it does incrementals etc etc etc
[09:38] <Myrtti> I should get some coffee and brunch going on
[09:38] <dutchie> see the paste
[09:38] <dutchie> 100G is encrypted/compressed/deduplicated down to 1.2
[09:38] <TwistedLucidity> "--humanize". ROFL
[09:39] <TwistedLucidity> Looks simple enough and seems to do the business.
[09:39] <TwistedLucidity> Just the VMs remain. Back them up as a file...or back-up the data within them?
[09:40] <TwistedLucidity> Data is easiest, but it means having some automagic way to rebuild the image again.
[09:40] <TwistedLucidity> Configure fail2ban, certs yaddah, yaddah, yaddah
[09:41] <TwistedLucidity> I know....I use "teh clowds". Yes. That'll make it all easy.
[09:41] <TwistedLucidity> Why are you laughing?
[11:15] * davmor2 breaks all of JamesTait code \o/ let the fun commence MUhahahahahahahaha
[11:44] <apt-get-moo> anyone seen google maps pacman edition?
[11:44] <zmoylan-pi> that was so mar 31st :-)
[11:44] <apt-get-moo> lol
[11:44] <popey> heh
[11:44] <apt-get-moo> iirc last year they had 8-bit maps
[12:08] <shauno> gmail is still google's best april fools' joke :|
[12:43] <foobarry> argh i missed the zinio 40% voucher code :( expired yesterday
[12:43] <foobarry> 40% off all subs
[13:21] <knightwise> TwistedLucidity: what are you using to sync over the backups ?
[13:21] <knightwise> bittorrent sync ?
[13:21] <TwistedLucidity> USB cable
[13:21] <popey> syncthing \o/
[13:22] <TwistedLucidity> knightwise: Currently using external HDDs....like I say, really need to get it sorted
[13:22] <knightwise> im pushing in house backups to an external disk that is linked to bittorrent sync
[13:22] <diplo> As popey said syncthing \o/
[13:23] <knightwise> that gets synced over to a bittorrent sync drive on a remote machine at my inlaws
[13:23] <diplo> Syncing family / work and home all to my server at home now
[13:23] <knightwise> popey: i tried the 15.04 beta with unity 8 , but it freezes when i try to login
[13:24] <knightwise> i am trying it in a vm
[13:30] <popey> it doesn't work in a vm
[13:32] <foobarry> who carries on playing the lottery after they;'ve won a jackpot?
[13:34] <knightwise> greedy bastards
[13:34] <foobarry> they won £1m jackpot twice
[13:36] <popey> http://www.zoopla.co.uk/for-sale/details/36425154
[13:36] <zmoylan-pi> someone who wants a bigger yacht?
[13:50] <TwistedLucidity> If I won the lottery, you'd wouldn't see me for dust
[13:51] <TwistedLucidity> 'course, I'd have to start actually playing the lottery.....
[13:52] <foobarry> its possible to win it, but pretty much impossible for me to win
[13:52] <zmoylan-pi> they won't let you play your lucky numbers 7, 7, 7, 7, 7, 7, R? :-)
[13:53] <foobarry> the chances of me winning are too small
[13:53] <foobarry> to be considered as a chance
[13:53] <foobarry> if i believed in those chances i wouldn't go out
[13:53] <foobarry> or stay in.
[13:53] <foobarry> too dangerous
[13:54] <zmoylan-pi> i'm so unlucky i don't buy after 8 mints... :-D
[13:54] <foobarry> pints?
[13:55] <zmoylan-pi> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/After_Eight
[14:01] <foobarry> mmm
[14:02] <foobarry> they are always in my cupboar
[14:02] <foobarry> d
[14:31] <awilkins> 1/1.4*10^7 chance of winning the UK lottery, approx
[14:31] <awilkins> You have more chance of being struck by lightning
[14:32] <zmoylan-pi> i have almost been struck by lightening
[14:35] <foobarry> you have more chance on a golf course..
[14:36] <zmoylan-pi> i was standing on top of a hill on outcrop overlooking sea. flash and bang were simultaneous
[14:40] <davmor2> knightwise: run it from live cd if you want to play on it
[20:32] * diddledan levels-off some printer fluid (even ink)
[20:33] <diddledan> evenink folks!
[20:42] <diddledan> https://www.gentoo.org/
[20:43] <diddledan> visit even though it's not a distro you may not appreciate
[20:43] <diddledan> it's a fun redesign of their site
[21:09] <shauno> lol, have you just woke up?
[21:13] <diddledan> nah, been over the parental
[21:16] <shauno> well, I think minecraft won this one :)
[21:17] <diddledan> I've not seen that one
[21:18] <shauno> https://mojang.com/2015/04/minecraft-snapshot-15w14a-the-love-and-hugs-update/
[21:19] <shauno> not only because it's funny, but because the update in question is actually fully implemented, downloadable & playable
[21:21] <shauno> but the little touches, like jumping straight from 1.8 to 1.10 (now that they're owned by msft) made me smile
[21:21] <m0nkey_> they need to keep their site like that
[21:23] <m0nkey_> yikes. $1100 for my PC build.
[21:24] <directhex> that all?
[21:24] <directhex> pcpartpicker says i have GBP2K left to spend, 500 already spent
[21:24] <directhex> if only i had some money
[21:25] <m0nkey_> anyone using a gtx960 with ubuntu?
[21:26] <m0nkey_> more specifically.. the Asus STRIX gtx960?
[21:29] <directhex> needs the 346 driver. is that in ubuntu?
[21:30] <m0nkey_> there's a ppa for it
[21:39] <m0nkey_> hmm.. do I use credit card or paypal to pay?
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ubuntu-chat
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2024-05-13T22:11:13.850139
| 2015-04-01T00:00:00 |
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2015-04-01-#ubuntu-de
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[06:29] <michel_> guten morgen
[06:50] <tmebis> moin
[10:22] <ub_umstieg> Guten tag Ubuntu14.04 Java Jdk Frage Androidstudio benötigt java7JDK Soll ich nur das oder gleich java8JDK installieren
[10:23] <ub_umstieg> relese java8 ist ja erst für diesen monat ofiziell bei oracle
[10:24] <k1l> was ist denn mit dem openjdk 7?
[10:25] <ub_umstieg> androidstudio meint ich bräuchte das echte
[10:26] <k1l> dann nimm das 7er
[10:26] <ub_umstieg> ok danke
[10:27] <ub_umstieg> Noch eine Frage zu 14.04 und den fenstern kann man das abschalten das in der Topfensterleiste der namen angezeigt wird und erst beim Mouse over das Datei... menue
[10:28] <ub_umstieg> Gleich die datei Bearbeiten ... leiste
[10:28] <jokrebel> ub_umstieg: Unity? Ja
[10:28] <jokrebel> Man kann sie zurück ins Fenster holen
[10:28] <ub_umstieg> 14.04 ist trusty oder hab ich das mit gnome verwechselt
[10:29] <ub_umstieg> jokrebel: Am meisten nervt das unten keine taskleiste mehr ist in der man offene fenster sieht und direkt wählen kann
[10:29] <jokrebel> sowohl die Ziffern aus auch der Name sagt noch nichts über den verwendeten Desktop
[10:30] <jokrebel> ub_umstieg: Dann willst Du vielleicht einen anderen Desktop lieber nutzten.
[10:31] <jokrebel> !desktops > ub_umstieg
[10:31] <kubine> ub_umstieg: Hier eine Übersicht über verwendbare Desktops unter Ubuntu: http://imgur.com/a/9iaLJ
[10:32] <ub_umstieg> unety
[10:32] <k1l> dafür sind die offenen fenster jetzt links im launcher
[10:33] <ub_umstieg> das mit den kleinene punkten ist mir schon aufgefallen
[10:33] <ub_umstieg> aber wie kann ich da einzelne anwählen
[10:34] <jokrebel> zb. Alt+TAB
[10:34] <k1l> klick mal auf das icon, wo mehrere instanzen von offen sind
[10:35] <ub_umstieg> Ah siehe Da
[10:35] <ub_umstieg> ok danke soweit immer gerne hier !
[12:09] <kcalB1> Hallo Leutz, ich hab ein problem, ich hatte einen älteren Laptop mit BIOS und hatte auch schön eine Live-CD/USB erstellt mit Remastersys, nun ist de alte Laptop kaputt und da ich einen neuen Laptop habe wollte ich wieder von USB start und siehe da geht nicht (wegen U EFI) BIOS-UEFI ist umgestellt aber kann trotz allem nicht starten, nun habe ich gelesen, das ich USB auf VFAT formatieren solle und und und.... da ich aber nicht den Rechner neu aufsetzen wi
[12:09] <kcalB1> ll, wollte ich freagen wie ich es anstellen kann das ich doch irgend wie von USB starten kann (evtl. irgend wie umwandeln oder sowas) Jemand ne Idee ?
[12:32] <red_> wie kann ich ich den Startvorgang mit der TAsTATUR ANHALTEN
[12:39] <dadrc> wie, anhalten?
[12:41] <red_> zb Shift und s
[12:41] <red_> damit ich die Fehlermeldung lesen kann
[12:42] <k1l_> kannst auch einfach syslog oder dmesg angucken in /var/log
[12:52] <someone2015> hello
[12:53] <someone2015> Could you translate it into German? 1. "Your German is very good, but you still need to work a little more on the accent." 2. "Your German is very good, but you still need to work a little more on the pronunciation."
[12:53] <someone2015> Thanks in advance
[15:44] <FlorianSchauer> is there a show today?
[15:44] <FlorianSchauer> !next
[15:44] <bekks> FlorianSchauer: a show?
[15:45] <FlorianSchauer> oh sorry ... wrong channel :D
[15:45] <bekks> Indeed.
[16:23] <zerwas> Ich würde gern herausfinden, wie ich mit meiner Tastatur die deutschen Anführungszeichen „“ eingeben kann. In meiner .Xmodmap steht nun: "keycode 55 = k K v V doublelowquotemark singlelowquotemark" Wie finde ich nun raus, welchen Modifier ich drücken muss, um doublelowquotemark zu erzeugen?
[16:34] <kcalB> Hi alle, habe einen neuen Laptop mit (U)EFI und hatte vorher ein älteren Laptop mit normalem BIOS. Zu meinem Problem: ich hatte mir ein Live USB-Stick erstellt mit Remastersys und mit Startmedienersteller den USB-Stick erstellt, nun möchte ich mit dem neuen Lappi von USB starten, geht aber nicht wegen (U)EFI. Im BiOS habe ich alles schon umgestellt secureboot und fastboot abgeschaltet. Kann ich irgendwie den vorhandenen USB-Stick umstellen, ohne das ich a
[16:34] <kcalB> lles neu installieren muss ? Kann mir jemand weiterhelfen? ..... bei Tante Googel habe ich nichts brauchbaches gefunden
[16:39] <jokrebel> kcalB: Ist der "alte" Stick nicht vielleicht auch noch eine 32bit-Version und Du könntest jetzt locker auch ein 64bit-ISO laufen lassen?
[16:40] <jokrebel> ...ooO( so mal als grundsätzliche Überlegung ob die Erstellung eines neuen Sticks nicht schon deshalb Sinnvoll wäre )
[16:44] <kcalB> jokrebel, ja des war ja ein 64bit (glaube ich mal) und aaahhhhhh...... neiiiinnnnn wieder alles auf anfang ? soooviel arbeit bis alles wieder so hab wie ich es brauche *uff*.... gibt's keine andere lösung ? O.O
[17:06] <jokrebel> Glaubensfragen solltest Du mit Deinem Geistlichen besprechen ;-)
[17:06] <jokrebel> Ah ... eh schon weg, na dann
[19:22] <LupusE> g'morgen
[20:36] <k1l_> max_megavolt: mach mal thunderbird nicht immer auf und zu wenn du damit auch ins irc gehst :)
[20:36] <k1l_> max_megavolt: mach mal thunderbird nicht immer auf und zu wenn du damit auch ins irc gehst :)
[20:38] <max_megavolt> warum genau? Was hab ich gemacht?
[20:38] <Fuchs> Den Kanal mit join/parts zugespammt
[20:40] <k1l_> jedesmal wenn du rein und rausgehst gibts eine meldung im channel. wenn das mehrere machen wirds schnell unübersichtlich. deshalb wurde für irc das "idlen" erfunden :)
[20:40] <max_megavolt> hatte eben ein Problem mit Firetray ... habe jetzt ein downgrade gemacht.. sollte jetzt laufen
[20:45] <max_megavolt> Gehört jetzt nicht ganz hier rein: Kennt ihr vielleicht einen guten VNC-Server für Android? Würde gerne von LInux auf Android zugreifen. Playstore sammt allem Google-Zeugs habe ich gelöscht. Hat jemand eine Idee?
[20:46] <bekks> Was genau hat das mit Ubuntu zu tun?
[20:48] <max_megavolt> Beides Linux-Basis?
[20:49] <Rochvellon> solche themen sind besser im OT-Chan aufgehoben
[20:50] <max_megavolt> Rochvellon: Und wo ist dieser Channel?
[20:51] <bekks> max_megavolt: Android nix Ubuntu. Hier nix nix-Ubuntu Support :)
[20:51] <bekks> max_megavolt: #ubuntu-de-offtopic
[20:58] <max_megavolt> bekks: Danke für die ausgesprochen sinnvolle Info: Android nix Ubuntu. Soviel Niveau würde ich mein klein Schwester auch zutrauen. ;-)
[20:59] <bekks> Wunderbar. Dann ist ja final geklärt, dass deine Frage hier völlig fehl am Platze ist.
[20:59] <max_megavolt> Amen oh bekks.
[21:33] <Paktosan> Guten Abend, ich habe ein Problem mit dem Networking auf meinen virtualisiertem Ubuntu Server 14.04. konkretes tool zur Virtualisierung ist der Esxi 5.5 . dieser emuliert für die virtuelle Maschine zwei Intel 82545EM Netzwerkkarten: eine, die in einem virtuellem lokalem Netzwerk hängt und eine, die direkten Zugriff zum Internet hat. Ich habe nun folgendes Problem: alle anfragen, die irgendwie direkt vom Internet ko
[21:35] <bekks> Paktosan: Wie geht dein Satz weiter? :)
[21:37] <Paktosan> Wie der Satz weiter geht? Habe ich da was vergessen? xD
[21:37] <sash_> Paktosan: IRC schneidet Nachrichten nach 512 Zeichen ab, dein Satz endete bei "die irgendwie direkt vom Internet ko"
[21:38] <bekks> Ja, alles nach "die irgendwie direkt vom Internet ko" kam hier nicht an.
[21:38] <Paktosan> alle anfragen, die irgendwie direkt vom Internet kommen, bekommen einfach nur einen timeout, allerdings erst, seit dem ich das mit dem lokalen Netz verbundene interface dazu geschaltet habe. Irgendwelche Ideen, was das Problem sein könnte?
[21:38] <Paktosan> Hätte mir mein client ja mal sagen können xD
[21:39] <bekks> Routing-Problem.
[21:40] <bekks> Hast Du da etwa einen ESXi direkt im Internet stehen?
[21:41] <Paktosan> Ja, da steht ein esxi im Internet, ist das ein Problem? Wieso ist das ein routing Problem, der soll doch eigentlich nicht von dem einen Netz in das andere routen.
[21:41] <bekks> Das IST ein Problem.
[21:42] <bekks> Sogar VMware sagt, dass man das nicht tun sollte. Aus gutem Grund.
[21:42] <apollo13> wait, so ESXi direkt im offenen Internet? tapfer…
[21:42] <bekks> apollo13: Ack.
[21:43] <Paktosan> Hatten da bisher keine Probleme mit und der läuft schon eine ganze weile super. Können wir zurück zum routing Problem?
[21:43] <apollo13> naja das ganze hat null mit ubuntu zu tun
[21:44] <apollo13> was wollen wir wetten dass die default route ins lokale netz zeigt :þ
[21:45] <Paktosan> Dass glaube ich eher nicht, weil das Problem, wie gesagt, erst auftritt, sobald ich in ubuntu den adapter zuschalte, der in das lokale Netz zeigt.
[21:45] <apollo13> ja sag ich ja
[21:46] <apollo13> und nunja, was du glaubst ist irrelevant, guck lieber die routing tabelle an :þ
[21:48] * Paktosan muss gestehen, dass er das erste mal mit diesem routing werkelt, weil das bisher ein Kollege gemacht hat und weiß deshalb gerade nicht, welche Tabelle gemeint ist. Vielleicht ist er aber auch einfach nur blöd.
[21:50] <apollo13> die "main" tabelle, außer ihr habt nen komplexes setup
[21:50] <Paktosan> Zur Klärung, dass wir vom selben reden: du meinst in ubuntu irgendwo?
[21:54] <Paktosan> Falls du den esxi meinst: der Adapter der vm liegt im vswitch0 an dem auch der physische Adapter hängt. der Adapter der vm hat eine von Hetzner vorgegebene mac Adresse, an der Hetzner dann fest macht, welche ip etc der zu bekommen hat. D. h. dass der Adapter quasi wie ein physischer gehandlet wird.
[22:03] <Paktosan> Das ist jedenfalls die derzeitige routing Tabelle des ubuntu systems: http://paste.ubuntu.com/10720909/
[22:03] <kubine> Paktosan: Title: Ubuntu Pastebin (at paste.ubuntu.com)
[22:03] <apollo13> Paktosan: also doch genau wie ich sagte
[22:04] <Paktosan> Dann werde ich mal schauen, dass ich das geändert bekomme
[22:11] <Paktosan> route add default gw eth1
[22:11] <Paktosan> In meinem Fall müsste das richtig sein?
[22:12] <apollo13> ich würde annehmen, dass route dir da nen error schmeißt
[22:15] <Paktosan> Weil die alte default noch besteht?
[22:21] <Paktosan> Ok, er würde einfach den Rechner nicht finden...
[22:24] <Paktosan> Andere Frage: wieso löscht der meine Regel beim reboot?
[22:25] <bekks> Weil Du sie nicht persistent gesetzt hast?
[22:26] <bekks> Oder weil in den Netzwerkeinstellungen eine andere default route definiert ist.
[22:35] <apollo13> ich bin fürn sysadminführerschein
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ubuntu-chat
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2024-05-13T22:11:13.866371
| 2015-04-01T00:00:00 |
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2015-04-01-#ubuntu-uy
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[02:04] <magu42> .
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ubuntu-chat
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2024-05-13T22:11:13.867932
| 2015-04-01T00:00:00 |
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"magu42"
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"channel": "#ubuntu-uy"
}
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2015-04-01-#ubuntu-bugs
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[03:50] <micahg> saltmakrell: yes, it should happen before release
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ubuntu-chat
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2024-05-13T22:11:13.869240
| 2015-04-01T00:00:00 |
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"authors": [
"micahg"
],
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"channel": "#ubuntu-bugs"
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2015-04-01-#cloud-init
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[00:26] <harlowja> smoser https://review.openstack.org/#/c/166201/ fyi
[00:26] <harlowja> useful to look at/over
[10:54] <Odd_Bloke> smoser: Is there any reason for having documentation in /doc that isn't in /doc/rtd/... (and therefore rendered on ReadTheDocs)?
[11:48] <Odd_Bloke> smoser: Does http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~daniel-thewatkins/cloud-init/openstack-vendor-data-doc/revision/1089 look sensible to you?
[11:49] <Odd_Bloke> smoser: (I'm waiting for confirmation from the partner that triggered this investigation that we've solved their problem before opening a MP)
[12:59] <smoser> Odd_Bloke, i think i'd like to have something like:
[12:59] <smoser> http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~daniel-thewatkins/cloud-init/openstack-vendor-data-doc/revision/1089
[12:59] <smoser> for all vendor-data consumption
[12:59] <smoser> i tihnk we can do this in a backwards compatible mode to if we do it right.
[13:00] <smoser> hm.. well i tihnk we want to do this well.
[13:02] <smoser> sorry.
[13:02] <smoser> bad link above.
[13:02] <smoser> whic his confusing
[13:02] <smoser> https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/cloud-init-vendor-data
[13:02] <smoser> i' dlike to hvae that basic policy in place for all vendor data consumption i think.
[13:50] <ktdreyer> hi folks, I'm wondering about the "#cloud-config" text that I see at the top of cloud-init YAML files. Isn't that a comment in YAML syntax? But cloud-init relies upon its presence?
[13:52] <Odd_Bloke> smoser: OpenStack falls over if vendor-data is just a string; I didn't try with a list.
[13:52] <Odd_Bloke> smoser: But I wouldn't be surprised if OpenStack requires a JSON object.
[13:52] <smoser> Odd_Bloke, well, it does.
[13:52] <smoser> but a string is valid json
[13:53] <smoser> watch:
[13:53] <smoser> $ python -c 'import sys, json; print(json.dumps(sys.argv[1], indent=1))' "Hi Odd_Bloke"
[13:53] <Odd_Bloke> A string is valid JSON; it's not a valid JSON object.
[13:54] <smoser> watch
[13:54] <Odd_Bloke> (As a JSON object is defined as a mapping)
[13:56] <smoser> http://paste.ubuntu.com/10718416/
[13:56] <smoser> you can argue if you want that python's json module is behaving incorrectly
[13:57] <smoser> but that same 'loads' is how openstack is going to check if its valid json
[13:57] <smoser> $ python /tmp/go.py
[13:57] <smoser> contents: "Hi Mom"
[13:57] <smoser> data: Hi Mom
[13:58] <smoser> ktdreyer, yes. cloud-init depends on it in some contexts.
[13:58] <Odd_Bloke> smoser: "foo" is valid JSON, but it's not a JSON object. A JSON object is a mapping ({"foo": "bar", ...}), and is one of the valid root objects in valid JSON.
[13:58] <Odd_Bloke> As are strings.
[13:58] <smoser> in /etc/cloud/cloud.cfg.d , it probably assumes a default of cloud-config (which is sane).
[13:58] <Odd_Bloke> So I think we're talking past one another here. :)
[13:59] <smoser> ktdreyer, but in other cases, it doens't know what the content of the file is... how to interpret it. so it relies on either data provided to it about the content (such as mime-type) or the content starting with a string.
[14:00] <smoser> well, kyou said openstack will fail if vendor-data is just a string
[14:00] <smoser> but i dont think it would
[14:00] <Odd_Bloke> If it assumes that it will get a mapping and looks for specific keys it might; I'm trying to get back on to that OpenStack cloud to try again.
[14:01] <smoser> i wrote it.
[14:01] <smoser> its a blob
[14:01] <smoser> it makes sense.
[14:01] <smoser> its a contract / data from "vendor" to "guest"
[14:02] <smoser> openstack is not involved.
[14:02] <Odd_Bloke> Ack; I'll try and work out what I was doing wrong.
[14:03] <smoser> Odd_Bloke, i'm not saying that we should use a string.
[14:03] <smoser> i think the dict or list makes more sense.
[14:03] <smoser> and cloud-inti shoudl take the 'cloud-init' entry in that.
[14:04] <smoser> that is what we should make work, and what we should recommend to vendors.
[14:04] <Odd_Bloke> Yeah; that does work.
[14:07] <smoser> Odd_Bloke, fwiw, this whole "string as an object" conversation, I had almost identically with JayF when i first wrote that etherpad.
[14:08] <smoser> :)
[14:10] <Odd_Bloke> smoser: http://json.org/ says that strings categorically are not JSON objects. But JSON objects are not the only valid JSON root type.
[14:10] <Odd_Bloke> So we're just in violent agreement here. :p
[14:12] <smoser> well, just to be snarky, and add more violent agreement
[14:12] <smoser> $ python -c 'import json, sys; print(isinstance(json.loads(sys.argv[1]), object))' '"foo"'
[14:12] <smoser> True
[14:12] <smoser> :)
[14:12] <Odd_Bloke> :D
[14:13] <smoser> openstack expects the VendorData class (which defaults to that thing that reads data from a json file)
[14:13] <smoser> to return data
[14:13] <smoser> it then 'json.dumps()' that to a file-like thing that it shows in the metadata service.
[14:14] <smoser> the VendorData class could return anything, but openstack is going to force that thing to be 'json.dumps'-able.
[14:14] <smoser> which seems sane. as it labels it 'vendordata.json'
[14:23] <Odd_Bloke> Yeah; I think the problem might have been that I just put a regular cloud-config file in there, rather than a JSON document with a string as the root object.
[14:28] <smoser> right.
[14:28] <smoser> err..
[14:28] <smoser> "right."
[14:31] <Odd_Bloke> Yeah.
[14:32] <Odd_Bloke> And JSON strings can't have literal newlines.
[14:33] <Odd_Bloke> So it looks like "#cloud-config\npackages:\n- htop\n".
[14:33] <Odd_Bloke> Uh, plus a space in there.
[14:36] <smoser> so what you want is this:
[14:36] <smoser> cloud_init_data = {'packages': ['htop']}
[14:37] <smoser> with open("file.json", "wb") as fp
[14:38] <smoser> fp.write('\n'.join("#cloud-init", json.dumps(cloud_init_data))
[14:38] <smoser> somthehign like that.
[14:38] <smoser> bsaically, let tools write it for you
[14:42] <Odd_Bloke> smoser: So have something like http://paste.ubuntu.com/10718633/ as the vendor-data OpenStack reads?
[14:43] <smoser> hm.. wait no. sorry . here.
[14:48] <smoser> http://paste.ubuntu.com/10718667/
[14:48] <smoser> Odd_Bloke, ^
[14:49] <smoser> either of those output formats (list or string) should work for cloud-init in vivid. and are in line with https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/cloud-init-vendor-data
[14:49] <smoser> and i'm saying we should make trusty act like vivid.
[14:50] <Odd_Bloke> smoser: http://paste.ubuntu.com/10718677/ worked on trusty and vivid.
[14:54] <smoser> Odd_Bloke, oh.
[14:54] <smoser> that is odd.
[14:54] <smoser> i dont know whow that works on trusty
[14:54] <smoser> ididn't think it looked in cloud-init
[15:00] <Odd_Bloke> smoser: Yep, it does; line 150 of DataSourceOpenStack.py.
[15:05] <JayF> smoser: Very happy to see cloud-init v2 hit stackforge
[15:08] <smoser> i pointed out, specifically... it is not a openstack project.
[15:08] <smoser> we just want free infrastructure :)
[15:09] <smoser> utlemming, i updated the lp:ubuntu/trusty branch
[15:09] <smoser> by 'dget <link-to-dsc>' (from https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/cloud-init)
[15:09] <utlemming> smoser: ack
[15:09] <smoser> and then 'bzr import-dsc' from that dsc
[15:09] <smoser> and bzr push
[15:09] <smoser> please make sure you update that when you upload
[15:11] <utlemming> smoser: sure, sorry about that
[15:16] <smoser> precise-proposed, trusty, and utopic are now all up to date with archive.
[17:12] <harmw> what would be a fairly decent architecture for a small cloud deployment having compute nodes on multiple locations, each having their own ISP link for connecting with $world and using an ipsec tunnel with $home where keystone lives?
[17:30] <harlowja> claudiupopa whats your openstack email; https://review.openstack.org/#/admin/groups/665,members is up
[17:30] <harlowja> smoser ^
[17:30] <harlowja> u are now cloud-init core
[17:30] <harlowja> feel free to add others
[17:31] <harlowja> also https://review.openstack.org/#/admin/groups/666,members
[17:31] <harlowja> 666 omg
[17:31] <harlowja> lol
[17:32] <smoser> ok thanks.
[17:32] <harlowja> np
[17:32] <claudiupopa> [email protected]
[17:33] <claudiupopa> So it's finally up.
[17:36] <JayF> 666 the number of the cloud
[17:43] <harlowja> JayF ha
[17:43] <harlowja> alexpilotti whats your email on gerrit?
[17:43] <harlowja> autofill-in not working
[17:44] <alexpilotti> harlowja: [email protected]
[17:44] <harlowja> k
[17:44] <alexpilotti> autofill has some strange logic
[17:45] <harlowja> k, u are now coreeeee
[17:45] <harlowja> lol
[17:45] <alexpilotti> yeiiii tx :-)
[17:46] <alexpilotti> I found myself swearing a bit about the way it accepts naming ordering and spelling
[17:46] <harlowja> ok first review
[17:46] <harlowja> lol
[17:46] <harlowja> https://review.openstack.org/169854
[17:46] <alexpilotti> d’oh!
[17:46] <harlowja> use all your magic core powers on that one, lol
[17:47] <harlowja> guess we can see if the automated-ci works with that review also
[17:47] <harlowja> or if its broken (or something else)
[17:47] <alexpilotti> quick double check w the format we have in cloudbase-init’s .gitreview
[17:48] <harlowja> thx
[17:48] * harlowja copied it from taskflow one, ha
[17:49] <alexpilotti> should I +2a or do we leave to smoser the pleasure of his first +a? :-)
[17:49] <harlowja> let's see if the CI breaks first
[17:49] <harlowja> it might be somewhat busted; not sure, ha
[17:50] <harlowja> first commits usually expose that :-P
[17:50] <alexpilotti> yep, we learned it the hard way
[17:50] <alexpilotti> as the first 2-3 post-stackforge patches in cbs-init can testify
[17:50] <harlowja> ya; looks like its busted, lol
[17:50] <harlowja> https://jenkins04.openstack.org/job/gate-cloud-init-pep8/1/
[17:51] <harlowja> ...
[17:51] <harlowja> i'll get all that stuff fixed
[17:51] <harlowja> maybe should turn off the docs build
[17:51] <harlowja> *for now*
[17:51] <alexpilotti> oh… well time to bring the joys of pep8 to cloud-init
[17:52] <JayF> I never start a new project with CI
[17:52] <harlowja> :)
[17:52] <JayF> set it up with noop jobs, then setup things one at a time
[17:52] <JayF> you are braver than me :P
[17:52] <kwadronaut> s/pep8/pdp11/g
[17:53] <harlowja> JayF ha
[17:53] <harlowja> JayF ya; it usually just causes these first commits to be busted
[17:53] <harlowja> then it all goes ok
[17:54] <alexpilotti> docs: https://github.com/stackforge/cloudbase-init/commit/23ddd33fa4a35040f9ab2f84efb54d7244232b8b
[17:54] <alexpilotti> an empty doc/source/conf.py should do
[17:54] <harlowja> kk
[17:54] <harlowja> cool
[17:54] <alexpilotti> and setup.cfg
[17:55] <harlowja> cools
[17:55] <harlowja> thx
[17:55] <alexpilotti> [build_sphinx]
[17:55] <alexpilotti> source-dir = doc/source
[17:56] <alexpilotti> do we have a .testr.conf?
[17:56] <harlowja> will get all that going
[17:58] <claudiub_> I would also suggest updating HACKING.md, since the new method of contributing will be through gerrit. That would mean going a git review instead, when the commit is ready.
[17:58] <harlowja> alexpilotti although seems like we are just gonna stick to nose for a little so i guess no testr.conf needed
[17:58] <harlowja> nose imho is just simpler :-P
[17:58] <harlowja> testr meh
[17:59] <JayF> harlowja: so existing cloud-init stays locked up in bzr? How long until this becomes the "new" cloud-init?
[17:59] <harlowja> i defer to others on that one JayF :-P
[17:59] <harlowja> i just work here, haha
[18:00] <harlowja> *when its ready?
[18:00] <harlowja> :)
[18:00] <JayF> when it's ready is code for never :P
[18:00] <harlowja> only if u are the type that doesn't commit to shit
[18:00] <harlowja> lol
[18:00] <harlowja> i don't think we are :-P
[18:00] <JayF> russell_h: ^ Doesn't look like it's close though.
[18:01] <smoser> ugh... whats the mP ?
[18:02] <harlowja> smoser i got it under control boss
[18:02] <harlowja> lol
[18:03] <smoser> good job.
[18:03] <alexpilotti> claudiub_: +1
[18:03] <alexpilotti> harlowja: k!
[18:03] <smoser> oh yeah
[18:03] <smoser> i had that locally :)
[18:10] <jetole> Hey guys. I have a question about cloudbase-init and this is the closest room I could find so I will ask here hoping either someone can help or someone can direct me to the right room...
[18:11] <jetole> When I start a instance, neither the hard drive is being extended nor is the instance being activated (it has a valid MAK key). The logs say very little. 6 lines regarding attempts to get meta data via 169.254.169.254 but I have not added any metadata line to cloudbase-init.conf. Can anyone help me figure out why the plugins I specified aren't running and the meta data lines are being queried when they are not included in the conf?
[18:17] <alexpilotti> jetole: best place for this question is ask.cloudbase.it
[18:17] <alexpilotti> jetole: can you please post also a copy of your cloudbase-init.log and cloudbase-init-unattend.log?
[18:18] <alexpilotti> jetole: also: which Windows version are you using?
[18:18] <jetole> alexpilotti: 2k8r2 standard
[18:18] <jetole> alexpilotti: should I have configured cloudbase-init-unattend.conf as well as cloudbase-init.conf ?
[18:18] <alexpilotti> jetole: if you used the installer, they come preconfigured
[18:19] <jetole> I'm thinking maybe I should have since I'm going the generalize OOB sysprep
[18:19] <alexpilotti> jetole: also a copy of your config files will help in troubleshooting
[18:19] <jetole> some is but not nessicerely how I prefer, for example I don't want to add a user or query the meta servers but I do want to activate windows which can manually be done since the correct MAK key is there and the hard drive doesn't grow to fill the instance size
[18:20] <jetole> OK
[18:20] <jetole> Will do
[18:20] <jetole> thanks
[18:23] <harlowja> ok i think https://review.openstack.org/#/c/169854/ should fix all of it
[18:23] <harlowja> maybe not the pep8 ones though
[18:24] <harlowja> let's see how far that gets
[18:24] <alexpilotti> harlowja: requirements might need sphinx>=1.1.2,<1.1.999
[18:24] <harlowja> kk
[18:24] <claudiub_> harlowja: I have left you a comment on that patchset regarding pep8
[18:24] <harlowja> claudiub_ thx
[18:24] <harlowja> looking
[18:24] <harlowja> alexpilotti i put sphinx>=1.1.2,!=1.2.0,!=1.3b1,<1.3 into test-requirements
[18:24] <harlowja> it seemed to work in a venv
[18:25] <alexpilotti> pep8: we should do our homework and clean up the entire project
[18:25] <harlowja> when i ran tox -edocs
[18:25] <harlowja> alexpilotti ya
[18:26] <harlowja> ok, updated
[18:26] <harlowja> let's see
[18:26] * harlowja prefers rst vs markdown also :-P
[18:27] <harlowja> since all that damn sphinx stuff is in rst (might as well just use it all the places)
[18:28] <JayF> harlowja: I have a very recent patchset enabling doc builds on a project if you wanted a template
[18:29] <harlowja> JayF i think this should work; tox -edoc worked for me, let's see if it gets farther
[18:29] <harlowja> then we can make it better
[18:29] <JayF> That's fine, was just offering :)
[18:29] <harlowja> cools
[18:29] <harlowja> thx
[18:32] <alexpilotti> harlowja: tests dont seem to run
[18:32] <harlowja> hmmm
[18:32] <harlowja> Ran 0 tests in 0.006s
[18:32] <harlowja> OK
[18:32] <harlowja> seems to run something :-P
[18:33] <harlowja> although 0 of something
[18:33] <harlowja> ha
[18:33] <harlowja> $ tox -epy27
[18:33] <harlowja> likely cause there aren't any?
[18:33] <alexpilotti> harlowja: https://github.com/stackforge/cloudbase-init/blob/23ddd33fa4a35040f9ab2f84efb54d7244232b8b/.testr.conf
[18:34] <alexpilotti> and testrepository in requirements.txt
[18:34] <harlowja> ya; i think we are sticking with nose + nosetests though for the time being
[18:34] <alexpilotti> not sure if we can get nsoe to do this
[18:34] <harlowja> we can swithc later if we care
[18:34] <alexpilotti> in theory it should be transparent
[18:34] <harlowja> ya; so thats why later switch i think is ok
[18:34] <harlowja> u can commit that one :-P
[18:34] <harlowja> once this goes in
[18:35] <alexpilotti> the fact that we dont have tests is also a good reason why tests dont run :-D
[18:35] <alexpilotti> as in: https://github.com/stackforge/cloud-init/tree/master/cloudinit/tests
[18:35] <harlowja> ;)
[18:35] <harlowja> yup
[18:38] <alexpilotti> I was quite surprise by seeing a green Python 3.4 jenkins run at the first run :-)
[18:40] <harlowja> woot
[18:40] <harlowja> ha
[18:45] <alexpilotti> added https://review.openstack.org/#/c/169880/
[18:46] <alexpilotti> harlowja: hey docs are happy
[18:46] <harlowja> ya; nearly there alexpilotti
[18:46] <harlowja> just a few hacking tweaks/exclusions
[18:46] <alexpilotti> we “only” have pep8 left
[18:47] <harlowja> ok, think latests update should do it
[18:47] <harlowja> let's see
[18:49] <alexpilotti> hacking.rst: what about removing the names and adding a reference to: https://review.openstack.org/#/admin/groups/665,members
[18:49] <harlowja> sureee
[18:49] <alexpilotti> this way we dont have to change the file anytime somedy gets added/removed from the core group :-)
[18:53] <harlowja> ya
[18:54] <harlowja> alexpilotti updated
[18:54] <alexpilotti> merci
[18:55] <harlowja> hopefully that makes it all happy and good to go
[18:55] <alexpilotti> does it makes sense to keep:
[18:55] <alexpilotti> .. _Scott Moser: https://launchpad.net/~smoser
[18:55] <alexpilotti> .. _Joshua Harlow: https://launchpad.net/~harlowja
[18:56] <alexpilotti> in the references sicne they are not accessed?
[18:56] <alexpilotti> I mean they are not referenced
[18:56] <smoser> referenced ?
[18:57] <alexpilotti> https://review.openstack.org/#/c/169854/9/HACKING.rst
[18:58] <alexpilotti> instead of the name list we have: * `Core reviewers/maintainers`_
[18:58] <alexpilotti> and at the bottom we have:
[18:58] <alexpilotti> .. _Core reviewers/maintainers: https://review.openstack.org/#/admin/groups/665,members 38
[18:58] <alexpilotti> .. _Scott Moser: https://launchpad.net/~smoser 39
[18:58] <alexpilotti> .. _Joshua Harlow: https://launchpad.net/~harlowja 40
[18:58] <alexpilotti> .. _IRC: irc://chat.freenode.net/cloud-init 41
[18:58] <alexpilotti> .. _freenode: http://freenode.net/
[18:59] <alexpilotti> I mea, we can add everybody’s launchpad profile there, but I dont see it particularly useful in a dynamic group
[18:59] <smoser> sure. drop that.
[19:00] <alexpilotti> tx. developer’s anti data-duplication professional bias :-)
[19:03] <harlowja> alexpilotti i already dropped it :-P
[19:03] <harlowja> refresh to patch 10
[19:03] <harlowja> ;)
[19:03] <harlowja> to slow, haha
[19:04] <alexpilotti> :-)
[19:08] <jetole> alexpilotti: http://ask.cloudbase.it/question/401/issues-with-meta-activate-serial-and-hdd-extend/ :-)
[19:08] <alexpilotti> jetole: ok tx!
[19:08] <alexpilotti> me or one of my colleagues will look at it asap
[19:09] <jetole> I think I should have used a different blockquote method but I don't post to stackexchange often enough and couldn't recall the syntax
[19:10] <alexpilotti> for logs and long text I usually paste on paste.openstack.org and paste the link in the post
[19:10] <alexpilotti> but yours are not very long so it works inline as well :-)
[19:10] <jetole> I can do the same and add a ref link under the block quote
[19:11] <jetole> ... or nevermind
[19:11] <jetole> ;-)
[19:12] <alexpilotti> jetole: on what cloud are you running this instance?
[19:13] <alexpilotti> plugins are meant to be executed when metadata is present
[19:13] <jetole> alexpilotti: I'm testing on a local qemu-kvm on workstation but I had also uploaded it to openstack and had the same results. I don't need any data from the meta servers at all so I feel it should be fine locally
[19:13] <jetole> well on openstack icehouse, I have the same results
[19:13] <alexpilotti> you can surely reduce the list of plugins
[19:14] <alexpilotti> on icehouse it should definitely pick up metadata from 169.254.169.254 or configdrive
[19:16] <jetole> I just updated the post
[19:17] <jetole> from the line @ Update near the bottom
[19:19] <alexpilotti> the unattend part is used only to save one reboot when you set the hostname
[19:20] <jetole> OK. I don't have the logs from icehouse and it will take me a while to get them since I removed the test image and would have to re-upload. I'm using ceph for the stack so uploading raw images only which take a while
[19:20] <jetole> should I do that and get the logs
[19:20] <jetole> ?
[19:20] <alexpilotti> yeah, that would be best
[19:20] <jetole> Ok. It's only the logs though. I know the results are the same
[19:20] <alexpilotti> we can add a “Nil” metadata provider for your Qemu case
[19:21] <jetole> sorry, can you clarify what unattend is used for? I didn't find a good ref on the difference between what the two config files are used for online
[19:22] <alexpilotti> when the image is sysprepped, it uses a file called unattend.xml (rough equivalent of a linux preseed.cfg / ks.cfg)
[19:22] <alexpilotti> thsi contains steps executed during the early first boot during a phase called “specialize”
[19:23] <jetole> I'm familiar with that
[19:23] <alexpilotti> we do a first execution of cloudbase-init at this stage
[19:23] <alexpilotti> to run only a limited set of plugins: NTP, MTU and hostname
[19:23] <jetole> I've used unattend, preseed and occasionally kickstart before but the cloudbase-init-unattend. What does that do differently
[19:23] <jetole> er, I mean that file specifically
[19:23] <alexpilotti> the hostname one requires a reboot
[19:24] <jetole> so the stuff that has to be done prior to the reboot goes into cloudbase-init-unattend?
[19:24] <alexpilotti> yep!
[19:24] <alexpilotti> in short, it’s just the anme of the configuration file used by cloudbase-init when executed during specialize
[19:25] <alexpilotti> there are quite some limitations on what can be executed during that phase, in particular WMI is not available
[19:25] <alexpilotti> in your case, given the requirements you posted, it can be skipped
[19:26] <jetole> ok
[19:27] <jetole> waiting on the upload now. It's at 90% (gbit between wkstn and stack) but than it's theirs the save from local host to ce
[19:27] <jetole> - to ceph (I think via glance)
[19:41] <harlowja> alexpilotti smoser claudiupopa https://review.openstack.org/#/c/169854/
[19:41] <harlowja> we are good to go
[19:41] <harlowja> approve at will
[19:41] <smoser> hooray. tests pass.
[19:41] <smoser> :)
[19:41] <alexpilotti> yeii
[19:42] <harlowja> smoser yaaaa; 0 tests pass 0 times, lol
[19:43] <alexpilotti> smoser: would you fancy +2a it this patch? :-)
[19:44] <smoser> on the above ?
[19:44] <alexpilotti> https://review.openstack.org/#/c/169854/
[19:44] <alexpilotti> yep
[19:45] <smoser> reviewing
[19:45] <harlowja> slacking again apparently, lol
[19:46] <smoser> why is it HACKING.rst ?
[19:47] <harlowja> idk
[19:47] <harlowja> lol
[19:47] <harlowja> seems common to what i've seen
[19:47] <harlowja> https://github.com/openstack/nova/ (HACKIGN.rst)
[19:47] <harlowja> ...
[19:48] <smoser> oh. ok. i didnt'r ealize github would render .rst
[19:48] <smoser> thought .md only
[19:48] <harlowja> ya
[19:48] <harlowja> it handles both
[19:48] <harlowja> and since rst is what sphinx also uses; i like just 1 format
[19:49] <jetole> Something else I wanted to ask, is there a (relatively) easy way for me to create a local metadata server for qemu/kvm for testing images when building them?
[19:49] <jetole> doesn't have to be on the same machine, etc since the KVM images share the LAN adapter of the host
[19:49] <smoser> so the reason i had testenv:docs is so tha tyou could build docs without the rest of the stuff
[19:49] <smoser> due to my general hatred of pypi
[19:50] <harlowja> maybe just get used to running `python setup.py build_sphinx` then :-P
[19:50] <harlowja> its a few more characters, lol
[19:50] <harlowja> but u can do it
[19:50] <harlowja> lol
[19:50] <harlowja> i believe in u
[19:54] <harlowja> we can switch it back; i think its ok if u really want smoser
[19:54] <harlowja> https://github.com/openstack/glance/blob/master/tox.ini#L40 seems to be the common practice
[19:54] <harlowja> although deps = {[testenv]deps} i think is fine either way
[19:54] <harlowja> so not sure it matters
[19:55] <harlowja> u sorta need the deps to run that comand anyway
[19:55] <smoser> so you switched it just to have less tox env ?
[19:55] <smoser> ie, less stuff in .tox/
[19:55] <smoser> right?
[19:55] <harlowja> well to install the right dependencies
[19:55] <harlowja> sphinx will crap out if u start including code from cloud-init into docs...
[19:56] <smoser> no.. i had it i thought in its own testenv.
[19:56] <harlowja> ya, well [testenv:docs] will do that
[19:56] <harlowja> afaik that will make a .docs venv
[19:57] <smoser> ah. but the .docs will have all of the requirements in it.
[19:57] <harlowja> smoser the openstack folks mirror pypi afaik so the mirror issues should be less of an issue
[19:57] <harlowja> smoser right
[19:57] <harlowja> and if we have docs that include code snippets; thats probably what we want
[19:57] <harlowja> so those code snippers can be tested as well (which can be done)
[19:57] <harlowja> *snippets
[19:57] <smoser> stop making rational arguments for your side
[19:58] <smoser> its annoying
[19:58] <smoser> :)
[19:58] <smoser> so the code snippets is godo point. and i'm fine with that.
[19:58] <smoser> harlowja, and we officially dropped 2.6 ?
[19:59] <harlowja> ha
[19:59] <smoser> did you mean to remove that ?
[19:59] <harlowja> well it seems like the openstack CI isn't testing it
[19:59] <harlowja> sooo
[19:59] <harlowja> i'm ok with that for now
[19:59] <harlowja> we'll see :)
[19:59] <smoser> istn't that rhel 6 ? didn't you tell me that ?
[19:59] <harlowja> ya
[19:59] <harlowja> it is
[19:59] <harlowja> i can add back later
[19:59] <harlowja> will see
[19:59] <smoser> and they dont have a python3 either.
[20:00] <harlowja> gate-cloud-init-python34
[20:00] <harlowja> ?
[20:00] <harlowja> thats running 34
[20:00] <smoser> ok.
[20:00] <harlowja> but gate-cloud-init-python26 not there right now
[20:00] <smoser> k. good enouh
[20:00] <harlowja> so just chopped 26 from the rest of it for now
[20:01] <harlowja> someone at yahoo will notice that and probably say, whats up
[20:01] <harlowja> but hasn't happened yet :-P
[20:01] <harlowja> also removed 'Environment :: OpenStack'
[20:01] <harlowja> since cloud-init isn't really 'openstack'
[20:01] <harlowja> ...
[20:01] <harlowja> its just cloud...
[20:03] <smoser> yeah, i'm godo wth that.
[20:04] <harlowja> cools
[20:04] <harlowja> merging it then (+a)
[20:04] <harlowja> and merged
[20:04] <harlowja> alexpilotti guess u'll have to rebase
[20:04] <harlowja> https://github.com/stackforge/cloud-init should be all good to code on now :-P
[20:04] <harlowja> world peace to come later, lol
[20:05] <alexpilotti> heh
[20:06] <harlowja> smoser do we want to drop https://github.com/cloud-init/cloud-init ?
[20:06] <harlowja> or link it or mirror it or something?
[20:07] <harlowja> https://review.openstack.org/169904 for those that are bored, ha
[20:07] <smoser> is there any infrastructure to magically keep those in sync ?
[20:07] <harlowja> smoser unsure
[20:07] <harlowja> probably :-/
[20:11] <jetole> alexpilotti: I just posted the updates you asked for via http://ask.cloudbase.it/question/401/issues-with-meta-activate-serial-and-hdd-extend/ - It looks to me like python is not finding the hostname module. I've never done python on Windows and wouldn't know where to look for that plus you may know if it's more than it appears from experience :-)
[20:20] <claudiupopa> jetole: plugins=cloudbaseinit.plugins.windows.sethostname.SetHostNamePlugin,
[20:20] <claudiupopa> That's actually plugins=cloudbaseinit.plugins.common.sethostname.SetHostNamePlugin,
[20:20] <claudiupopa> s/windows/common/ ;-)
[20:21] <claudiupopa> The unattend conf had it right though.
[20:22] <jetole> OK. I actually copied the plugins lines from the stackforge readme
[20:22] <jetole> Is there a more current one?
[20:23] <claudiupopa> Yep.
[20:23] <claudiupopa> Just updated it today.
[20:23] <jetole> on stackforge?
[20:23] <claudiupopa> Yeah.
[20:23] <claudiupopa> In fact, ups, sethostname is still wrong.
[20:24] <jetole> ok...
[20:24] <jetole> s/windows/common/ <- is that for all plugins?
[20:24] <claudiupopa> No, some of them are windows specific.
[20:25] <claudiupopa> The rest are nicely abstracted so that they work on any platform.
[20:25] <jetole> claudiupopa: can you check my whole plugins line there and let me know which other ones I should adjust, please?
[20:25] <claudiupopa> Sure.
[20:25] <jetole> thank you
[20:27] <claudiupopa> networkconfig is common, as well as mtu.
[20:27] <claudiupopa> As well as sethostname.
[20:28] <jetole> claudiupopa: extendvolumes and activate windows still use "windows"?
[20:29] <claudiupopa> Yes, they windows specific.
[20:29] <claudiupopa> Except extendvolumes, which is somewhat a leaky abstraction right now.
[20:29] <claudiupopa> https://github.com/stackforge/cloudbase-init/blob/master/cloudbaseinit/plugins/common/factory.py#L23
[20:29] <claudiupopa> This should give you a fair idea of what is what.
[20:29] <jetole> If I just reboot this instance on the stack, will that test the changes I made to cloudbase-init.conf or do I have to re-sysprep?
[20:30] <claudiupopa> You'll have to resysprep. Or delete a key from the registry.
[20:30] <claudiupopa> There's a key where cloudbaseinit logs the status of the executed plugins.
[20:30] <jetole> do you have the path?
[20:31] <jetole> quicker to test and than I can re-sysprep on my workstation and re-upload once I know I have a working config
[20:32] <claudiupopa> Should be under 'SOFTWARE\\Cloudbase Solutions\\Cloudbase-Init\\'
[20:32] <claudiupopa> HKLM.
[20:33] <harlowja> windows registry
[20:33] <harlowja> eck
[20:33] <harlowja> runs away
[20:34] <jetole> harlowja: I don't have a \\HKLM\SOFTWARE\Cloudbase Solution\
[20:34] <harlowja> i defer to others here
[20:34] <jetole> Do you think the import error may have caused an exit before it was written
[20:34] <harlowja> really will run away ha
[20:34] * harlowja running to food
[20:34] <harlowja> lol
[20:34] <jetole> ;-/
[20:35] <jetole> :-/
[20:35] * jetole does the reboot
[20:36] <claudiupopa> jetole: if you don't have any, that's good, no plugin was executed then, so doing a reboot should do it.
[20:36] <jetole> Something else I wanted to ask about. I use a app which provides the initial password, in plain text, in json ['meta']['initialpass'] via http://169.254.169.254/openstack/2012-08-10/meta_data.json. Can I set a user password via this data?
[20:37] <jetole> I had to write some python code to use this in Linux as I could not find a way to do it natively via cloud-init and a few members of this room (weeks ago) confirmed it could not be done natively
[20:40] <claudiupopa> jetole: in cloudbaseinit it needs to be in ['meta']['admin_pass'].
[20:41] <jetole> so that's a no
[20:41] <claudiupopa> Yes, basically.
[20:42] <jetole> it's ok
[20:42] <jetole> I am getting a terminal prompt for a password via sysprep now and will port the python later
[20:43] <jetole> claudiupopa: Here's the updated console output: http://paste.openstack.org/show/Jf99AeXArfzL3INP4QRi/
[20:44] <jetole> I am seeing the hostname is set but the volumes are not extending and windows is not being activated. It has a valid MAK key and if I click on activate windows than it activates just fine but cloudbase-init isn't extending hdd or activating
[20:45] <jetole> whoa
[20:45] <jetole> wait a second
[20:45] <jetole> the hdd now appears to be extended
[20:46] <jetole> and windows is activated
[20:46] * jetole does a happy dance
[21:05] <jetole> claudiupopa: If I test this on a local kvm-qemu without the 169.254.169.254 meta data, will this run or fail @ hdd-extend and activate?
[21:08] <claudiupopa> jetole: you mean without any metadata service?
[21:09] <jetole> right. This is just for testing on local workstation before uploading to the stack
[21:09] <claudiupopa> Then it will definitely fail. cloudbase-init tries to load the metadata before starting any plugin.
[21:10] <claudiupopa> If it finds no available metadata service, it fails.
[21:10] <jetole> OK
[21:10] <jetole> any recommendation for how I could run a easy to deploy testing meta server on my local net
[21:11] <claudiupopa> Probably we could add some sort of local for-testing service.
[21:11] <jetole> actually I have hit the meta server wall on linux / cloud-init too
[21:11] <jetole> would be better if there is a for testing meta framework
[21:14] <claudiupopa> In the mean time, I guess you could "mock" a metadata service, by starting a local Python / Ruby / Perl server which exports the expected api.
[21:14] <claudiupopa> And then just setting metadata_base_url to point to your mocked service.
[21:14] <claudiupopa> metadata_base_url in config file I mean.
[21:19] <alexpilotti> claudiupopa: we could also just provide a DummyMetadata class
[21:20] <alexpilotti> which implements the base class w/o doing anything else
[22:05] <jetole> claudiupopa, do you want to add a answer to my issue @ http://ask.cloudbase.it/question/401/issues-with-meta-activate-serial-and-hdd-extend/ regarding s/windows/common/ ? I was about to but I wanted to reference you for credit and don't know how since I hardly ever use this service
[22:28] <jetole> alexpilotti and claudiupopa: How do you guys deal with building images? Do you upload every test image to the stack? Isn't that time consuming?
[22:30] <alexpilotti> jetole: it’s ok, it’d be great if you could answer and mark it as an answer :-)
[22:31] <alexpilotti> about images: they get cached on compute nodes, so after the first boot it’s fast even if they are relatively big
[22:33] <jetole> alexpilotti: no I know but I mean when you're building images like, for example, right now I'm building the redeployable win2kr2 image for our stack and I need the meta data to run it which I don't have locally so right now I am doing a lot of dev, upload, test, debug, upload, test, Q&A with you guys (would have been lost without it), upload, test and for me it's pretty time consuming
[22:33] <jetole> I mean if there is no dummy meta server than there still has to be a better way than this
[22:34] <alexpilotti> we use these Powershell cmdlets to automate the process: https://github.com/cloudbase/windows-openstack-imaging-tools
[22:34] <alexpilotti> it’s fully automated, but it takes 1-2 hours per image
[22:35] <alexpilotti> the Windows updates are the time consuming part
[22:35] <alexpilotti> if you dont care about updates, it can be fully done offline
[22:36] <jetole> not bad. I'm on Linux workstation but I could always rdp. There's a bunch of Linux options too for automated builds but for build and test, with the whole upload thing, it just seemed to me like there would have been a less time consuming way. For example, I mean if it wasn't for the meta-data, I could just poweroff the system after a sysprep, qemu-img a backing file for qcow2, boot it up and test in a matter of minutes
[22:36] <jetole> yeah I did the updates on the pre-rollout but that was a one-off task
[22:37] <jetole> for dev & QA, I'm having to re-deploy for every test but oh well
[22:37] <jetole> just hoped the pros had a better path
[22:42] <jetole> Forgot to mention I'm using qcow2 locally for snapshots and backing_files to expedite dev but the stack is using ceph and qcow2 on ceph isn't a good idea so I also have the qemu-img convert time before each upload
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[21:20] <olly> morning
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[21:58] <darkxst> it occured to me there is a very common use-case for per minute billing, VOIP
[21:59] <darkxst> perhaps can repurpose some of that software
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[01:20] <maddawg2> hey all... so been using ubuntu server at work for a nmber of our facilities (open vpn tunnels, squid proxy, dhcp, firewall, etc)... normally we've been using Firewall builder so that some of our windows system administrators can configure the firewall with a GUI...however it looks like firewall builder has stopped developing
[01:20] <maddawg2> any alternatives people can recommend?
[01:46] <sarnold> maddawg2: ufw is simple enough, even though it's commandline; I think someone put together a gui around it but I can't vouch for the quality of it..
[01:47] <lkthomas> guys, anyone have experience to run multicast routing ?
[01:48] <maddawg2> yea sarnold we're looking for a GUI and we dont want a gui on the computer
[01:48] <maddawg2> with firewall builder we could install it to Windows and make our rules there and it would generate a conig file that would then get uploaded to the ubuntu server
[01:49] <sarnold> maddawg2: you could try X forwarding, ssh -X hostname xterm to get a quick idea of what I mean..
[01:52] <maddawg2> yea but then they wouldnt be on windows
[01:52] <maddawg2> these are windows administrators
[01:52] <maddawg2> needin g to administer a linux firewall
[02:08] <sarnold> ahh
[07:05] <lordievader> Good morning.
[10:52] <Gwys> Hi all ! I'm trying to install openstack through MAAS following this documentation http://ubuntu-cloud-installer.readthedocs.org/en/latest/multi-installer.guide.html
[10:52] <Gwys> But I've an issue with br0 during openstall-install
[10:52] <Gwys> Someone can help me ?
[10:53] <Gwys> I see some error on br0 in the log files. And it look like the script comment my interface in /etc/network/interface
[10:54] <Gwys> There are error logs : http://pastebin.com/22yELB7r
[11:05] <strikov> rbasak: regarding this bug: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/mysql-5.6/+bug/1438788
[11:05] <strikov> rbasak: it's upgrade related thing; previous version of the package generated this incorrect symlink and we have to manually remove it
[11:06] <strikov> rbasak: it was not a good idea to remove it somewhere inside installation handlers of the new version because this file/link may be legal
[11:07] <strikov> rbasak: i.e. user created it manually not buggy package
[11:07] <strikov> rbasak: that's definitely a bug of debhelper-systemd and i need to file it
[11:08] <rbasak> strikov: OK. So workaround available, and only affects users who had mysql-server-5.6 5.6.23-1~exp1~ubuntu4 installed?
[11:10] <strikov> rbasak: i'm reproducing this now on a cloud instance to provide with a workaround which 100% works
[11:10] <strikov> rbasak: yes, only when you upgrade from ubuntu4
[11:10] <rbasak> strikov: I think it's OK to leave it then - we can just explain it in the bug for users to apply the workaround.
[11:11] <strikov> rbasak: ok
[11:11] <rbasak> strikov: and then explain that it's too difficult to fix without breaking other users, and then mark it Won't Fix.
[12:31] <Arrick> hey all, if I am working with a .conf file, is ; a commented line?
[12:36] <davegarath> Arrick: It depend for what application is .conf file. Usually a comment is #
[12:37] <Arrick> its the smb.conf
[12:37] <Arrick> there are dozens of lines which start with ; that follow the # liens
[12:37] <Arrick> lines
[12:38] <davegarath> smb.conf use both # and ; as a comment
[12:39] <davegarath> # is used as a comment and ; is used to comment a statement
[12:40] <Arrick> I'm having an issue with winbindd and smb, cant seem to figure out how to get it to lookup usernames, or anything.
[12:40] <Arrick> wbinfo -u says error looking up domain users
[13:21] <strikov> rbasak: just fyi, debian guys provide cloud images since jan2015: http://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/openstack/testing/
[13:21] <strikov> rbasak: it might be useful for testing while filing debian bugs
[13:50] <Adri2000> I've just discovered uvt; I understand it as being a way to create VMs from cloud images. I have a side question: is there a recommended way to build cloud images? is the toolchain used for building those at cloud-images.ubuntu.com available somewhere?
[14:23] <jcastro> Adri2000, check this out: https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-on-ec2
[15:00] <jamespage> coreycb, huh - quick poke at the ci builds - missing deps for the source packages was not helping as a result of move to systemd
[15:00] <rbasak> strikov: that's useful. Thank you!
[15:02] <coreycb> jamespage, what was missing?
[15:02] <rbasak> Adri2000: I think our toolchain for building cloud images is available. utlemming might be able to help with that. But it is not recommended. We think that you should use "official" cloud images instead, and use cloud-init on first boot to customize them as needed.
[15:02] <rbasak> Adri2000: or, if you must, modify the official cloud image for local use but starting from the official one, rather than going from scratch.
[15:02] <rbasak> Adri2000: of course, you can do what you like. We just try to best support that workflow.
[15:04] <MDTech-us_MAN> hello
[15:04] <jamespage> coreycb, dh-systemd and openstack-pkg-tools
[15:04] <jamespage> without those you can't cut the source packages
[15:04] <MDTech-us_MAN> what is a good program that will backup specific programs and file every once in a while? maybe even somethign with a good (web?) interface?
[15:06] <coreycb> jamespage, so the ci builds don't use the deps from debian/control? because those should be in the debian/control files.
[15:08] <jamespage> coreycb, not for cutting the source packages
[15:09] <coreycb> jamespage, ok
[15:31] <Adri2000> rbasak: typical use case is I want ubuntu cloud images that include specific configuration to my local network (think, apt mirrors and such). what would be the proper way to create those, if not using the toolchain used to build the "official" images"?
[15:33] <Odd_Bloke> Adri2000: You have two options, really: (a) take the cloud images and modify them, or (b) use cloud-init to do what you need to do on first boot.
[15:34] <Odd_Bloke> Adri2000: The toolchain used to build the official images starts from scratch, but you don't have to start from scratch because we build the official cloud images. :)
[15:34] <Adri2000> Odd_Bloke: then what tool do you recommend to do (a) ?
[15:35] <Odd_Bloke> Adri2000: Have a look at http://ubuntu-smoser.blogspot.co.uk/2014/08/mount-image-callback-easily-modify.html
[15:37] <Adri2000> thanks
[15:46] <rbasak> Adri2000: to set apt mirrors and things, I suggest you use cloud-init. Then you don't have to keep re-rolling your customised cloud images.
[15:46] <rbasak> Adri2000: you can inject configuration information into the cloud images, which cloud-init then uses. http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~cloud-init-dev/cloud-init/trunk/view/head:/doc/examples/cloud-config.txt documents the configuration you can do.
[15:47] <rbasak> Modifying a cloud image is easy. Maintaining that setup is not.
[15:54] <Adri2000> rbasak: I know, but I'd like to offer users (internal IaaS/OpenStack users) images that work out of the box, and therefore do not require them to add userdata if they don't need anything specific
[15:54] <Adri2000> rbasak: of course I'll have to maintain my custom images, that's why I need to automate the process
[15:55] <Adri2000> mount-image-callback may be part of the solution
[15:57] <rbasak> Adri2000: look into vendordata. It lets you provide defaults that userdata can override, but if no userdata is used your users will get your apt mirror by default.
[15:57] <Odd_Bloke> Adri2000: If you're on OpenStack, you could use vendor... that.
[15:58] <rbasak> (unless users actually touch that setting in userdata)
[17:07] <strikov> rbasak: could you change status of this bug to won't fix please: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/mysql-5.6/+bug/1438788
[17:07] <strikov> rbasak: i don't have permissions to do this
[17:09] <strikov> rbasak: i investigated this and (a) upgrade from ubuntu4 to ubuntu5 runs smoothly (issue reported was observe with the previous version of the package I assume) (b) i can observe the issue when removing the package but it's a result of previously created symlink which requires manual actions
[17:09] <rbasak> strikov: yes, but please could you first explain the bug why the bug should be Won't Fix?
[17:09] <rbasak> explain in the bug
[17:09] <teward> rbasak: i was about to ask that too xD
[17:09] * teward was about to hit "Won't Fix" too xD
[17:14] <teward> rbasak: stupid question for you with regard to freezes, but a bug of mine got poked saying "Shouldn't the fix for this be SRU'd?" on nginx, and it's not in Vivid yet - it'd set the thing to build as position independent - would that even qualify for SRU or even a bug that'd get past featurefreeze?
[17:14] <rbasak> teward: what's the bug?
[17:15] <rbasak> teward: if it's a security bug, then the normal SRU process doesn't apply. An update would go via security sponsorship itself, and the security team would judge security impact vs. regression risk themselves.
[17:16] <teward> rbasak: i'll poke mdeslaur in either case, but the other problem is the fix isn't even in Debian yet - just committed
[17:16] * teward digs for the bug
[17:17] <teward> wow i still had it open from 2 hours ago xD
[17:17] <teward> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/nginx/+bug/1315426
[17:17] <teward> rbasak: it reads as a feature request, but i'm not sure if it needs to be a security bug that mdeslaur / security team would review
[17:17] <mdeslaur> teward: what do you need me for?
[17:17] <teward> mdeslaur: oop forgot you're here xD
[17:17] <mdeslaur> nah, that's an SRU, not a security vulnerability
[17:17] <teward> that's what i thought
[17:18] <rbasak> If it's not a security vulnerability, then what's the user impact that necessitates an SRU?
[17:18] <teward> rbasak: AFAICT there isn't one
[17:18] <teward> not unless package policy starts pushing for PIE as a requirement for inclusion anywhere
[17:18] <rbasak> Then an SRU isn't appropriate IMHO.
[17:18] <teward> mhm
[17:19] <rbasak> Unless mdeslaur says it's worthwhile as an SRU for security reasons even if it shouldn't go through a security upload.
[17:20] <teward> mdeslaur: the question goes back to you, whether it'd be worthwhile as an SRU for security reasons or not. (Note the changes are committed in Debian but not implemented anywhere, not even in Vivid)
[17:20] <teward> so it'd need a nitpick pull from Debian git, added to Vivid, then SRU'd.
[17:21] <mdeslaur> I don't think it's worthwhile as an SRU, no
[17:21] <teward> rbasak: and since it'd be needed in Vivid, the question then becomes whether FeatureFreeze prevents this, or whether i have to go poking the release team for an FFe
[17:21] <mdeslaur> it's just hardening, it has no direct benefit
[17:21] <strikov> rbasak: teward: is it okay to close the bug with 'won't fix' if the root cause of the bug is in different project? in our case this issue arises from the fact that debhelper can't handle aliases in systemd's unit config.
[17:22] <rbasak> strikov: no, I don't think so. If the bug cannot be fixed in this package, then the bug should be reassigned to the correct package, or a new task added and the mysql-5.6 task marked Invalid.
[17:23] <strikov> rbasak: okay, so let me look into debhelper bug tomorrow; will see then what to do
[17:23] <mdeslaur> turning on PIE in stable releases will have a detrimental performance impact on 32-bit platforms, which may piss off people who are specifically using nginx for it's performance
[17:23] <rbasak> strikov: if the bug *can* be fixed in this package but it isn't worth doing it because it affects development release users only in a way that they can workaround, and it isn't worth going to the trouble to fix it for that set of users, then I think it's OK to explain this and then mark Won't Fix against mysql-5.6.
[17:23] <mdeslaur> s/it's/its/
[17:24] <teward> mdeslaur: rbasak: OK that's what i thought (not SRU worthy, no significant benefit). I'm considering leaving Vivid's status alone though, in the interim, once Vivid is released marking it as "Won't Fix" and setting a "Triaged" state for the next release later (because there may be a merge in that cycle from Debian, which would likely include the PIE changes)
[17:24] <rbasak> teward: I think "PIE isn't turned on though expected for security-sensitive packages" is a reasonable bug to fix under feature freeze without needing an exception. I would be OK to sponsor that. But see mdeslaur's comment on whether we should do that or not.
[17:25] <teward> rbasak: right, given that, i'm considering leaving Vivid's status alone
[17:25] <teward> but i was going to "Won't Fix" for the earlier releases
[17:25] <rbasak> Maybe it's fine to do, and those who are performance sensitive can switch to amd64 when upgrading to Vivid for production use.
[17:25] <mdeslaur> and we'll likely be turning on PIE by default on amd64 for V+1
[17:26] <teward> i'm thinking at this point V+1 might be the target. at some point after Vivid's release it's likely Debian will get an update in its package that turns on PIE by default
[17:26] <teward> since it's in the git, but not yet released due to Debian freeze
[17:27] <teward> (at least from what the nginx maintainers in Debain told me)
[17:31] <teward> mdeslaur: rbasak: i'm going to use those statements as "blocking points" for a vivid fix for now, and will wait to see what Debian does on this - just because it's Fix Committed there means nothing - it's not even 'tested' there afaict
[17:31] <teward> (net)
[17:31] <teward> s/net/yet/
[17:38] <teward> rbasak: mdeslaur: i'm comfortable leaving the change out of Vivid and waiting to V+1 to get the fix in with the likely merge i'll do during that cycle. Around that same time I'll make a blog post on my blog (which'll end up in Planet.u.c's list) indicating that for V+1 we recommend that performance-sensitive use cases should be switching to amd64 architectures instead of staying on 32-bit architectures, for the performance hit reason we just
[17:38] <teward> discussed
[17:38] <teward> wow i hate irc truncation
[17:38] <teward> (that PIE bug's been there for a while now)
[17:39] <teward> (I posted as such on the bug just now)
[17:40] <teward> thank you both for the discussion on it, sometimes it helps to have a second viewpoint / opinion :)
[17:45] <strikov> rbasak: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/mysql-5.6/+bug/1438788/comments/5
[17:45] <strikov> rbasak: how about that?
[18:03] <rbasak> strikov: looks good. Done.
[18:16] <strikov> rbasak: thanks!
[18:21] <teward> rbasak: mdeslaur: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/nginx/+bug/1315426/comments/5
[18:22] <teward> rbasak: mdeslaur: looks like htere's pushback for no Vivid inclusion - opinions on putting it in Vivid other than us having to say "Those who have performance-sensitive setups should move to amd64 for the upgrade to Vivid", assuming the release team approves an upload to enable PIE?
[18:22] <mdeslaur> teward: if you want comments from disgruntled people, I can fill your inbox if you'd like
[18:22] <teward> mdeslaur: sure, feel free, i have 500 today
[18:22] <teward> mdeslaur: on top of 6000 aprils fools jokes
[18:23] <teward> and 10000 spam messages in my PMs here
[18:23] <mdeslaur> teward: just upload it to vivid
[18:23] <teward> i'll go nitpicking then
[18:29] <teward> mdeslaur: uploaded, it's going to need approval
[18:42] <teward> and there's the accept.
[18:48] <teward> ooo apparently the debian changes FTBFS
[20:17] <adam_g> zul, ping
[20:18] <zul> adam_g: yo
[20:19] <adam_g> zul, can you go through and remove all your -2's from https://review.openstack.org/#/q/reviewer:chuck.short%2540canonical.com+status:open,n,z ?
[20:20] <zul> adam_g: sure gimme a sec
[20:22] <zul> adam_g: done
[20:30] <adam_g> zul, thanks
[22:25] <keithzg> Huh, one of my servers is offset from correct time by a tad over -161 seconds, I wonder what would cause that?
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[00:26] <popey> OMG. bug 1436330 has been doing my head in for a week or more
[00:26] <popey> (laptop in docking station with ethernet and wifi on same network)
[00:26] <popey> glad it's not me!
[01:00] <cyphermox> robru: NM was good to go, so I'll just straight upload to distro
[01:00] <cyphermox> I've already fixed up teh package
[01:01] <cyphermox> popey: ^will be including the fix for that too
[01:33] <robru> cyphermox: great, thanks
[01:47] <cyphermox> robru: feel free to clean the silo
[01:47] <robru> cyphermox: will do
[05:42] <oSoMoN> trainguards: is the spreadsheet going bonkers again? I got RTM silo 1 yesterday for webbrowser-app, and it now says it’s assigned to jgdx for ubuntu-system-settings (line 42), claiming it’s ready for QA sign-off, despite the silo actually containing webbrowser-app
[05:42] <oSoMoN> (and my landing request has disappeared)
[05:43] <robru> oSoMoN: yeah spreadsheet is fucked, trust the dashboard. Also reload the spreadsheet before trying to use it, that can force it to sync sometimes
[05:44] <oSoMoN> robru, problem is, the QA trello board seems to be using info from the spreadsheet, it has a card pending validation for silo 1 with jgdx’s name
[05:44] <robru> Oh good
[05:44] <oSoMoN> robru, and more importantly, I don’t recall marking the silo ready for sign-off, I still have to test it…
[05:45] <robru> oSoMoN: not sure what to say on that topic. I told qa not to write any code that touches the spreadsheet. It's a wonder anything gets done with it.
[05:46] <oSoMoN> robru, how far are we from using the dashboard for everything (including requesting silos) and dropping the spreadsheet entirely?
[05:46] <robru> oSoMoN: just correct the spreadsheet as best as you can using the info from the dashboard
[05:46] <oSoMoN> ok, will do
[05:47] <robru> oSoMoN: far. Ci dropped it as a priority, now I'm the only person working on it, it's going very slowly.
[05:50] <oSoMoN> :/
[05:50] <robru> oSoMoN: yeah.
[05:50] <Mirv> oh my, again
[05:52] <oSoMoN> robru, trying to edit the spreadsheet to re-add my request gone missing in action, and I’m getting this: "The action you're trying to perform is causing a fatal error and cannot be performed."
[05:53] <robru> Mirv: yeah, I guess just wait some hours and then try again. it's fussy like that
[05:54] <robru> oSoMoN: oh actually I can see your edits. it may be worth continuing inspite of the errors
[05:56] <oSoMoN> robru, ok, I re-added my request at line 61
[05:56] <Mirv> waiting + eventually I start again reconstructing lines using the dashboard if nothing fixes itself
[05:57] <robru> oSoMoN: looks good
[05:58] <Mirv> I added the id although well the background doesn't change blue so I'm not sure if it's saving it or not..
[05:58] <Mirv> oh yeah, executing scripts gives a fatal error
[05:59] <Mirv> it's screwed, official. waiting might help.
[05:59] <Mirv> let's see in a couple of hours.
[06:05] <robru> Mirv: I've found in a few cases that if it looks wrong, you can reload the page and then it looks right. it seems as though people can make changes, but those changes aren't synced to other people until those people reload the page. unfortunately there's no way to enforce "reload the page before you start making edits!"
[06:08] <robru> Mirv: I'm off to bed. good luck today!
[06:23] <Mirv> robru: thanks!
[08:03] <oSoMoN> sigh, the spreadsheet lost my request again…
[08:05] <Mirv> yes, everything in the spreadsheet is causing fatal errors :( it's like the last time when it was stuck at certain Sunday. one day later it started working again.
[08:06] <sil2100> Oh crap
[08:06] <sil2100> Everyone, remember that we keep backups of the spreadsheet here: http://sil2100.vexillium.org/citrain-backups/ (just in case)
[08:07] <oSoMoN> trainguards: can I have a silo for line 62 (if the spreadsheet didn’t dump it into /dev/null again) ?
[08:11] <sil2100> Sure
[08:12] <sil2100> oSoMoN: *sigh* I don't see anything on line 62 :(
[08:12] <sil2100> oSoMoN: maybe give me the list of merges, the description etc. as a private message
[08:12] <sil2100> And I'll assign one like that
[08:17] <jibel> sil2100, rsalveti ^ media-hub approved given last night discussion and we didn't find any obvious problem
[08:18] * sil2100 still reads up on the discussion
[08:21] <sil2100> Well, I still don't feel super comfortable landing that, but I trust QA's and rsalveti's judgement
[08:22] <sil2100> ugh, so many unapproved merges
[08:28] <jibel> sil2100, if we must land it, it must be as soon as possible to find potential problems and possibly revert if something is obviously broken
[08:29] <jibel> sil2100, personally I was reluctant to land such a change but given the general agreement and nothing was found during testing, I don't have strong facts to not land it
[08:29] <sil2100> Right
[08:32] * ogra_ wrestles with google
[08:55] <sil2100> oSoMoN: ping
[08:55] <sil2100> oSoMoN: a quick question - silo rtm 001
[08:56] <oSoMoN> sil2100, yes?
[08:56] <sil2100> oSoMoN: is that silo ready for QA sign-off or the spreadsheet is just playing with us?
[08:56] <sil2100> Better to make sure now with all the problems
[08:56] <oSoMoN> sil2100, it is now ready for QA signoff indeed (wasn’t earlier this morning, but I tested and validated it)
[08:56] <sil2100> jibel, davmor2: ^
[08:57] <jibel> oSoMoN, this is the only change in the silo ?
[08:58] <jibel> - Equals("http://www.test.com/"))
[08:58] <jibel> + Eventually(Equals("http://www.test.com/")))
[08:58] <jibel> ?
[08:58] <oSoMoN> jibel, yes
[08:58] <jibel> I'll just land it
[08:58] <oSoMoN> thanks!
[08:58] <oSoMoN> it’s indeed 100% risk-free
[08:59] <sil2100> ;p
[09:00] <jibel> oSoMoN, which row of the spreadsheet is it? the citrain board doesn't mention it
[09:00] <sil2100> oSoMoN: btw. just to be double sure - this change will land/landed in vivid already?
[09:00] <oSoMoN> jibel, it used to be row 61, but the spreadsheet keeps on forgetting about it, and I got tired of re-entering the info over and over again
[09:01] <oSoMoN> sil2100, yeah, it landed in vivid a while back, we had forgotten to backport it to RTM
[09:01] <sil2100> Excellent
[09:01] <jibel> sil2100, ^ how do I approve this silo?
[09:01] <sil2100> jibel: I'll just publish it then
[09:01] <jibel> good , thanks
[09:01] <sil2100> The spreadsheet is just causing trouble, geh
[09:01] <sil2100> Thanks guys!
[09:12] <jibel> sil2100, I've a card for ubuntu/silo-030 but there is nothing on the train dashboard
[09:12] <jibel> any idea why?
[09:12] <jibel> has this silo been removed?
[09:22] <sil2100> hm
[09:22] <sil2100> jibel: the backend is empty so it seems there's no such silo right now...
[09:24] <jibel> sil2100, thanks, removed. I did some clean-up and there are 4 silos ready to test in ubuntu and 1 in rtm
[09:25] <sil2100> jibel: 1 is ready for testing in rtm? Silo 5 is ready for sign-off already?
[09:25] <jibel> hm actually 0 in RTM, silo 5 was ready for QA and is not anymore
[09:25] <sil2100> Oh
[09:25] <sil2100> Yeah
[09:25] <sil2100> hm
[09:25] <sil2100> ralsina: ping
[09:30] <jgdx> oSoMoN, robru, anything you need from me?
[09:32] <oSoMoN> jgdx, not any longer, problem solved I think (the CI train spreadsheet played tricks on us)
[09:37] <jgdx> oSoMoN, back in 1996 or something my father took a course in excel
[09:37] <jgdx> spreadsheets aren't easy
[09:38] <oSoMoN> jgdx, did that course include a troubleshooting class for when the software blows up and "forgets" what you entered?
[09:39] <oSoMoN> (if so we need to hire your father)
[09:39] <jgdx> oSoMoN, oh yeah, it was windows 95. They had a reset button in front of the computer which rebooted it.
[09:40] <oSoMoN> now we only need to find the reset button on google’s servers :)
[09:40] <jgdx> yea :)
[09:44] <seb128> sil2100, seems like you areon l63, are you assigning it or should I? ;-)
[09:58] <dbarth__> sil2100: the oxide rebuild failed :/
[09:59] <dbarth__> sil2100: we have a correct build in the security team ppa; this is what normal utopic users get anyway; can't we just binary copy into the silo instead ?
[09:59] <dbarth__> that's the last oxide release to require this compiler gymnastic; as vivid as a correct gcc-4.9 now
[10:00] <sil2100> hmm
[10:00] <sil2100> I think a binary copy from the utopic silo can be enough
[10:00] <sil2100> seb128: yeah, I tried assigning it but it failed (and I didn't notice)
[10:01] <sil2100> As the MR is not a correct MR
[10:01] <seb128> sil2100, oh, why?
[10:01] <seb128> hum
[10:01] <sil2100> seb128: second one is a branch link, not an MR link :)
[10:01] <sil2100> I'll fix that
[10:01] <seb128> sil2100, thanks
[10:03] <sil2100> seb128: done :) Sorry I didn't notice that earlier
[10:03] <seb128> sil2100, sorry for doing it wrong ;-)
[10:03] <seb128> thnaks
[10:04] <dbarth__> sil2100: cool; can you take the utopic oxide from there: https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-mozilla-security/+archive/ubuntu/ppa/+packages ?
[10:04] <dbarth__> ie oxide-qt - 1.5.5-0ubuntu0.14.10.2
[10:09] * sil2100 sighs
[10:09] <sil2100> We'll need to get a new silo ;/
[10:09] <sil2100> Since this version is AGAIN smaller than what we have in the PPA
[10:09] <sil2100> Will deal with that in some minutes
[10:16] <pedronis> hi, I'm trying to run some autopilot tests that start unity8, is the first time I'm running them, they seem to get stuck on unity asking a passphrase, am I missing some config aspect, or the tests are old and need changes
[10:18] <cjwatson> sil2100: I can expand silos for you on request
[10:19] <cjwatson> sil2100: Oh, sorry, version number not size
[10:19] <cjwatson> Never mind
[10:33] <Mirv> pedronis: it's probable the screen needs to be unlocked first before running autopilot. how to run tests the correct way is somewhat poorly documented, but check at least how to disable edges intro, welcome wizard, force display light on and enable dbus-probe at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/Testing
[10:33] <Mirv> well not poorly documented as such but there are a lot of different test suites sometimes with special needs
[10:36] <pedronis> Mirv: seems the tests need some tweeking in this case
[10:54] <popey> sil2100: just uploaded new terminal to store, in case you need to update any tarballs for nexus 4 / nexus 7?
[11:03] <jibel> sil2100, what's the status of silo 23? it says some merges are unapproved but ricmm approved them
[11:04] <jibel> in rtm
[11:04] <jibel> in vivid sorry
[11:08] <sil2100> popey: \o/
[11:09] <sil2100> popey: hm, will try to get those updated
[11:09] <sil2100> jibel: re-publishing in that case
[11:17] <sil2100> Ok, I suspect the packaging changes have been reviewed by rsalveti
[11:17] <sil2100> But still, we'll need an archive admin looking at the new binary packages
[11:19] <sil2100> Not sure if we didn't have an agreenment that we can publish soname-changes without approval though
[11:32] <dbarth__> sil2100: hey, could you trigger the binary copy into silo 004 (rtm) ?
[11:32] <dbarth__> i'd like to get this re-tested today and be done with it ;)
[11:32] <dbarth__> i'll also need a vivid silo in a bit (hint hint ;)
[11:34] <dbarth__> well, if i manage to write sometihng in the spreadsheet, that is
[11:35] <sil2100> dbarth__: on it right now ;)
[11:36] <sil2100> jibel, davmor2: ignore rtm silo 001 marked as waiting for QA sign-off ;/
[11:38] <sil2100> grrrr
[11:39] <dbarth__> ok, i think i have line 61 ready for a silo request
[11:44] <sil2100> dbarth__: can you check silo 001 and check if all is ok? The status might be showing that the packages failed to build, but the binaries should be there
[11:53] <dbarth__> sil2100: ok
[11:54] <sil2100> dbarth__: silo for 61 assigned
[11:55] * sil2100 goes to prepare lunch
[12:13] <dbarth__> sil2100: silo 001 is good; thanks
[12:14] <dbarth__> sil2100: 61, as well :)
[12:14] <dbarth__> 16 even
[12:31] <boiko> trainguards: I am trying to mark vivid silo 24 as tested but I am receiving an error
[12:31] <boiko> trainguards: "The action you're trying to perform is causing a fatal error and cannot be performed."
[12:39] <bzoltan_> mzanetti: ogra_: do you think we could land it? https://code.launchpad.net/~bzoltan/ubuntu-seeds/add_libssl_and_qtpim_devs/+merge/254902
[12:41] <bzoltan_> or Mirv^
[12:42] <ogra_> bzoltan_, no idea about qtpim, sorry ... ssl-dev seems sane
[12:44] <mzanetti> bzoltan_, I'm not ready with the bug yet :D
[12:44] <bzoltan_> ogra_: The qtpim is the PIM API in Qt...
[12:44] <bzoltan_> mzanetti: push dude, push it :)
[12:44] <ogra_> bzoltan_, heh, i guessed that much :P
[12:45] <ogra_> still cant judge it, since i dont know anything about it
[12:45] <bzoltan_> ogra_: :D I assumed ... for example the reminder app needs it build time
[12:45] <mzanetti> bzoltan_, have you been able to build the app now? I can't remember if there's anything else missing to build reminders. and my chroots are obviously all set up with all the deps already
[12:45] <bzoltan_> ogra_: Mirv is the one who can judge, since he is the package maintainer
[12:46] <ogra_> right
[12:46] <mzanetti> bzoltan_, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubuntu-meta/+bug/1439173
[12:46] <ogra_> happy to go with his judgement here
[12:46] <bzoltan_> mzanetti: adding these two packages made the app build
[12:47] <mzanetti> bzoltan_, perfec. thanks. if I find more I'll ping you)
[12:47] <mzanetti> perfect, even
[12:48] <bzoltan_> mzanetti: the thing is that this is exacly how the frameworks should be improved. App devs should contact me and request APIs what are available in the archive.
[12:48] <bzoltan_> mzanetti: so thank you indeed
[12:48] <mzanetti> bzoltan_, I will :)
[13:15] <Mirv> boiko: the spreadsheet is quite broken at the moment, but if you can't get it to work you can ping qa so that they add a card for you manually
[13:16] <rvr> jgdx: Silo 28 needs rebuild
[13:16] <boiko> Mirv: so, I marked vivid silo 24 tested again, can you just check that you got the info on your side?
[13:16] <jgdx> rvr, k
[13:16] <Mirv> bzoltan_: ":armhf"?
[13:17] <Mirv> bzoltan_: ok for qtpim in general
[13:17] <bzoltan_> Mirv: ehh... pull the next rev please
[13:20] <rsalveti> sil2100: ricmm: hey, so what is missing for the media-hub silo? (23)
[13:21] <rsalveti> or just waiting migration now?
[13:22] <jibel> rsalveti, it's migrating apparently
[13:22] <rsalveti> great
[13:22] <rsalveti> we want to trigger a new image once that is finally migrated
[13:22] <jibel> rsalveti, qtvideo-node is still in proposed but should be in vivid/universe soon
[13:22] <rsalveti> yeah, great
[13:40] <sil2100> jibel, davmor2: apparently the ubuntu-push silo (rtm-005) is now ready for testing
[13:41] <jibel> sil2100, yes, om26er is on it
[13:42] <Mirv> bzoltan_: note though that next qtpim update will break C++ API. qtpim is one of the modules not supported by upstream. reportedly QML apps should be fine.
[13:43] <Mirv> anyway, approved
[13:50] <jibel> sil2100, what is rtm 001? LP says "Copying failed of oxide-qt (1.5.5-0ubuntu0.14.10.2)". It's mark read for QA but is there anything to verify?
[13:53] <sil2100> jibel: as I mentioned above ^ it's something broken because of the spreadsheet, it doesn't seem to be ready yet
[13:53] <jibel> sil2100, OK, thank
[13:53] <sil2100> 13:36 < sil2100> jibel, davmor2: ignore rtm silo 001 marked as waiting for QA sign-off
[13:53] <jibel> s
[13:53] <jibel> I missed that sorry
[13:54] <sil2100> The spreadsheet is wrecking chaos right now ;)
[13:55] <boiko> jibel: hi, so the spreadsheet is kinda broken, would you mind adding a card to test vivid silo 24? it is ready for landing
[13:55] <jibel> boiko, there is already a card
[13:56] <boiko> jibel: great! thanks!
[13:56] <jibel> boiko, don't worry when the spreadsheet is broken it tends to add duplicate cards rather than forgetting some
[13:56] <jibel> or asking for testing things not ready for testing
[13:57] <boiko> jibel: ok, it was just to make sure you guys got it
[13:58] <jibel> np, the board doesn't suffer of card starvation
[14:04] <om26er> ralsina, ping
[14:04] <om26er> ralsina, the command in this MR[1] does not work [1] https://code.launchpad.net/~ralsina/ubuntu-system-settings/per-package-notifications/+merge/254621
[14:04] <ralsina> om26er: the gsettings one?
[14:05] <om26er> ralsina, yes,
[14:05] <ralsina> om26er: are you trying it on a desktop? In that case it won't because the gsettings schema is not installed
[14:05] <om26er> ralsina, I logged into the device. "bash: syntax error near unexpected token `('"
[14:06] <ralsina> oh, the command is just the 1st line, the rest is the output
[14:06] <ralsina> om26er: so, just gsettings get com.ubuntu.notifications.hub blacklist
[14:09] <om26er> ralsina, ;)
[14:09] <om26er> pedronis, How can I verify fix for bug 1437135 ?
[14:12] <pedronis> om26er: need to tail .cache/upstart/ubuntu-push-client.log , turn on flight mode ... let the phone sit for a while (10 minutes) check there's was no activity in the log about wakeups
[14:12] <om26er> pedronis, ok
[14:12] <pedronis> om26er: then turn flight mode off, and send something through twitter or gmail and see that the notification appear
[14:13] <om26er> pedronis, whats the default poll time ?
[14:13] <pedronis> om26er: 5 minutes
[14:14] <pedronis> so when you turn it on it may take a bit (though it should try to poll early)
[14:14] <pedronis> when is set to on again
[14:24] <jibel> rsalveti, rmadison says that all the packages in silo 23 migrated to vivid
[14:25] <rsalveti> jibel: great, will trigger a new image
[14:26] <ogra_> yay
[14:26] <ogra_> so now my music will play twice as fast with only half the battery ?
[14:26] <ogra_> :)
[14:27] <rsalveti> hahah
[14:27] <rsalveti> build started
[14:35] <imgbot> [14:38] <sil2100> \o/
[14:48] <om26er> pedronis, after 10minutes it prints "INFO connectivity check passed." with internet connected. I assume if I am disconnected it won't even try that ?
[14:49] <pedronis> om26er: sorry, not enough context, are you asking if turned off properly or if turned on properly?
[14:50] <om26er> pedronis, the former
[14:51] <pedronis> om26er: it cannot say passed if it's in flight mode
[14:51] <pedronis> so I'm confused
[14:54] <om26er> pedronis, sorry for the confusion. I first tested with *internet connected* and it was checking internet connectivity every 10 minutes. What I wanted to know if will it test for connectivity after 10 minutes if I am in Flightmode ?
[14:55] <pedronis> om26er: no but I think I gave you the wrong info, you need to turn on debug level in the config
[14:55] <pedronis> otherwise the logs are too terse
[14:56] <rsalveti> imgbot: status 157 vivid
[14:56] <om26er> pedronis, how do I do that
[14:56] <rsalveti> ogra_: do we need to kick imgbot ? :-)
[14:56] <rsalveti> or wrong syntax
[14:57] <ogra_> rsalveti, hmm, no, proper syntax
[14:57] <pedronis> om26er: need to copy /etc/xdg/ubuntu-push-client/config.json to ~/.config/ubuntu-push-client/config.json and change "log_level": "debug",
[14:57] <ogra_> imgbot, stunt
[14:57] * imgbot rolls on its back and purrs
[14:57] <pedronis> om26er: and then initctl restart ubuntu-push-client
[14:57] <ogra_> imgbot, status 157 vivid
[14:57] <imgbot> Status: succeeded, Started: 2015-04-01 02:02:06 UTC, Finished: 2015-04-01 02:57:13 UTC
[14:57] <imgbot> Build URL: https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-cdimage/+livefs/ubuntu/vivid/ubuntu-touch/+build/23898
[14:57] <imgbot> Changelog: http://people.canonical.com/~ogra/touch-image-stats/157.changes
[14:57] <ogra_> rsalveti, seems it needs his masters voice :/
[14:58] <ogra_> rsalveti, oh, might be i dont match for the colon !
[14:59] <om26er> pedronis, ok, done. will test now.
[15:01] <rsalveti> haha, yeah
[15:15] <dbarth__> o/ silo rtm 001 with oxide 1.5.5 ready for qa/release
[15:17] <om26er> pedronis, ok I verified the fix for that bug.
[15:17] <om26er> pedronis, now how can I verify bug 1435109 ?
[15:18] <rsalveti> sil2100: can you help allocating a silo for line 62?
[15:18] <rsalveti> I can't, keep giving spreadsheet errors
[15:18] <rsalveti> The action you're trying to perform is causing a fatal error and cannot be performed.
[15:18] <sil2100> rsalveti: sure thing, I have some workarounds for that ;)
[15:19] <sil2100> The spreadsheet is doing april's fools today as per topic
[15:19] <rsalveti> sil2100: great, thanks
[15:21] <sil2100> bzoltan_, zbenjamin: can you take a look at 64? The merge requests seem invalid
[15:23] <sil2100> bzoltan_, zbenjamin: I mean row 64
[15:23] <zbenjamin> sil2100: fixed
[15:24] <pedronis> om26er: it's not very simple, with connection, let the phone alone for a long while with the logs to debug: when looking at the log timestamps
[15:24] <sil2100> zbenjamin: thanks
[15:24] <pedronis> om26er: the logs like: iter %02d: not connected, sleeping for %s or sleeping for DoneWait %s
[15:25] <pedronis> om26er: should never take much more that the number of secs they print
[15:26] <pedronis> om26er: also just less than a second should pass between: got wakelock cookie of %s, checking conn stat
[15:26] <pedronis> om26er: and the first "iter %02d: ...
[15:27] <om26er> pedronis, do these logs look sane to you: http://paste.ubuntu.com/10718845/
[15:30] <noise][> om26er: those look sane, you should also do some more flipping of flight and wifi to cover all combos. dontPoll should only be true when flight is ON and wifi is OFF.
[15:30] <pedronis> om26er: need a bit more got wakelock cookie to know, I see only one there ... also it seems there no U1 account set?
[15:31] <noise][> and when dontPoll=true, nothing should be happening and the phone should be able to go into long suspend (tail -F /var/log/syslog | grep powerd)
[15:31] <noise][> and when you re-enabled connectivity you should see polling again at regular intervals (5 mins by default)
[15:34] <rvr> jgdx: kenvandine: Approving silo 28.
[15:35] <kenvandine> rvr, thx!
[15:35] <charles> brendand, when I eod'ed last night there was a QA Testing Request card for silo 10 with ubuntu-themes and indicator-power, but I don't see it anywhere on the board this morning?
[15:39] <om26er> pedronis, noise][ this might be better. Also ignore my internet failures there: http://paste.ubuntu.com/10718921/
[15:40] <pedronis> om26er: yes, it looks sane, got wakelock cookie and the first connected check are all happening in the same second
[15:40] <kenvandine> ugh... fatal errors from the spreadsheet again
[15:41] <charles> here it is, https://trello.com/c/TXXmEQ48/1230-ubuntu-landing-010-indicator-power-ubuntu-themes-charles, looks like it got archived?
[15:42] <sil2100> kenvandine: yeah, see topic ;/
[15:42] <kenvandine> oh... sigh :)
[15:42] <kenvandine> wait... reload?
[15:42] <kenvandine> i just opened it for the first time today :)
[15:43] <sil2100> Reloading doesn't help in the fatal errors, but decreases the chance that you change won't be saved ;)
[15:43] <sil2100> *chance
[15:44] <kenvandine> ah
[15:44] <ogra_> i heard the spreadsheet will be replaced soon anyway ...
[15:45] <sil2100> hah, good one
[15:45] <kenvandine> ogra_, i know... it's april 1 :)
[15:45] <ogra_> :)
[15:45] <kenvandine> sil2100, how do we assign a silo?
[15:46] <sil2100> kenvandine: there's a trick - you need to press 'assign' twice - first time you get an error, second time you get the reconfigure screen - but just continue with that and in the jenkins build job simply de-select the reconfigure flag
[15:47] <kenvandine> sil2100, thx :)
[15:53] <brendand> charles, you'd need to ask jibel
[15:54] <brendand> charles, but from what i can see it doesn't seem to be ready for testing?
[15:54] <jibel> charles, silo 10 is not ready for QA http://people.canonical.com/~platform/citrain_dashboard/#?q=ubuntu%2Flanding-010
[15:55] <charles> jibel, hm, well it was yesterday, looks like the spreadsheet line got eaten
[15:56] <charles> I'll re-add it to the spreadsheet for the third time
[15:57] <jibel> charles, right, that'll readd the card. Thanks.
[15:59] <ogra_> sil2100, just fyi, cwayne is kicking a custom tarball for vivid to pick up the new apparmor from monday
[15:59] <charles> jibel, ack
[15:59] <sil2100> ogra_: yeah, I had a chat with him about that yesterday through e-mail
[16:00] <charles> trainguards, ^ that's already in silo 10, just re-adding to the spreadsheet because the line got eaten
[16:00] <sil2100> charles: ACK
[16:01] <kenvandine> the spreadsheet is hungry again
[16:01] <kenvandine> maybe i should copy my row just in case :)
[16:01] <charles> :-)
[16:10] <imgbot> [16:10] <imgbot> [16:17] <bzoltan_> zbenjamin: the silo5 is safe and fixes the bug it suppose to fix
[16:22] <robru> bzoltan_: no qa for silo 5?
[16:23] <bzoltan_> robru: I am Ok with it If somebody really wants to get involved.. but the change does not effect anythin else but fixes a single line problem in the SDK
[16:24] <robru> bzoltan_: oh I see the diff. ok
[16:24] <bzoltan_> robru: Thanks
[17:11] <davmor2> Saviq: this is all your fault ;) https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/unity8/+bug/1439318
[17:15] <dobey> "The action you are performing is causing a fatal error."
[17:15] <dobey> yay google spreadsheet :(
[17:17] <ogra_> dobey, you broke it !
[17:17] <dobey> it's a really elaborate april fool's from google maybe?
[17:18] <ogra_> perhaps ... see the landing mail .. or the channel topic ...
[17:19] <dobey> ogra_: hrmm, not sure what's up. i freshly opened the page
[17:19] <dobey> ah well
[17:19] <ogra_> whee
[17:20] <dobey> i guess this is what happens on google when you have a spreadsheet with 60K lines in it or something
[17:21] <dobey> i wonder if i should even bother trying to get a silo now
[17:23] <dobey> fuuuuu
[17:28] <pedronis> what happened, it's the spreadsheet? ubuntu-rtm/landing-005: Packages built. Testing pass. QA signed off. You can publish. and now is back just to built
[17:29] <dobey> pedronis: yes, spreadsheet is wildly broken at the moment it seems
[17:29] <awe_> my line in the spreadsheet entered earlier today for ofono/rtm is gone!
[17:29] <awe_> ;(
[17:29] <pedronis> :(
[17:29] <dobey> awe_: i imagine you're not the only one with that :-/
[17:30] <awe_> but according to rsalveti, the silo got created... d'oh
[17:30] <ogra_> i thihnk you need to talk to the trainguards directly for now
[17:30] <rsalveti> awe_: yeah, rtm silo 2
[17:30] <ogra_> and ignore bot and spreadsheet
[17:30] <rsalveti> works from the dashboard
[17:30] <rsalveti> http://people.canonical.com/~platform/citrain_dashboard/#?q=ubuntu-rtm%2F
[17:30] <awe_> except it's dirty
[17:31] * ogra_ hands awe_ mop and bucket
[17:31] <dobey> so rebuild it?
[17:31] <awe_> and says it needs to be rebuilt due to a conflict with qtvideo-node
[17:31] <rsalveti> awe_: that's broken, but build should still work
[17:32] <rsalveti> triggered a build, we will see
[17:33] <awe_> ok
[17:37] <dobey> trainguards: so is it possible to request a landing without going through the spreadsheet? or i'll just have to wait until it stops giving me a fatal error every 5 seconds?
[17:37] <rsalveti> need to call sil2100 and robru I'd guess
[17:38] <rsalveti> to fix that first
[17:41] <robru> dobey: you can email me and I can assign the silo directly without the spreadsheet
[17:43] <dobey> ok
[17:51] <robru> dobey: ok you got silo 28
[17:52] <ralsina> trainguard, just in case, silo rtm-5 had QA signoff before the spreadsheet reached 88mph and travelled back in time, so you can publish it when you want :-)
[17:52] <robru> ralsina: ah thanks
[17:53] <ralsina> robru: np
[18:19] <Saviq> davmor2, it is indeed
[18:29] <dobey> robru: how can i log it as tests passing? :)
[18:30] <robru> dobey: just ping qa directly i guess...
[19:07] <robru> bfiller: MPs that target lp:ubuntu/* are unsupported
[19:27] <bfiller> robru: right, sorry
[19:27] <bfiller> renatu: you need to get someone to review and merge/upload the syncevo patch, maybe kenvandine can help
[19:27] <bfiller> renatu: can't go in silo
[19:28] <renatu> kenvandine, ^^^ ;)
[19:28] <renatu> bfiller, I will upload to phablet team ppa to help us to test it
[19:34] <kenvandine> i think you can get an empty silo and i can dput it to the silo
[19:35] <kenvandine> robru, did you see my reply about content-hub in soonsnap? should be an easy fix
[19:36] <robru> kenvandine: yeah, thanks. I uploaded it to the store with the fix, just waiting for it to be approved so i can confirm it works
[19:37] * popey looks
[19:37] <popey> robru: i dont see soonsnap waiting in the queue
[19:37] <kenvandine> robru, i updated line 61, if that's good can you create a silo for it?
[19:38] <kenvandine> and i can upload the package to it
[19:38] <rsalveti> jhodapp: published rtm silo 7
[19:38] <popey> 1.3 was approved 3 hours ago
[19:38] <rsalveti> pmcgowan: will trigger another RTM image once silo 7 migrates to release, if that is fine
[19:38] <jhodapp> rsalveti, awesome! thanks
[19:39] <robru> popey: ah thanks. I didn't get any email about the approval
[19:39] <popey> np
[19:41] <robru> popey: *sigh*, new version is totally busted, just a white screen
[19:43] <kenvandine> robru, thx...
[19:43] <kenvandine> bfiller, renatu: i'll upload the source to the silo
[19:44] <bfiller> kenvandine: thanks
[19:45] <renatu> kenvandine, thanks again :D
[19:46] <kenvandine> renatu, anytime!
[19:46] <alesage> trainguards ubuntu/landing-001 *oxide-qt* QA sign-off granted, pls RSVP
[19:47] <kenvandine> robru, so after i dput it to the silo, i need to do a watch only build right?
[19:47] <alesage> please <- that's three pleases
[19:48] <pmcgowan> rsalveti, would be nice to get that oxide silo as well
[19:49] <pmcgowan> oh
[19:49] <pmcgowan> just signed off!
[19:49] <dobey> hmm
[19:49] <rsalveti> oh, great then
[19:49] <rsalveti> let me land that
[19:49] <dobey> oh fun, the trello board is all whacky too
[19:50] <kenvandine> it must be powered from the beloved spreadsheet
[19:51] <rsalveti> alesage: were you testing RTM silo 1?
[19:51] <rsalveti> pmcgowan: and I think you said RTM silo 1 as well, right?
[19:51] <rsalveti> did a watch only build
[19:51] <rsalveti> the silo is in an interesting state though
[19:51] <rsalveti> https://launchpad.net/~ci-train-ppa-service/+archive/ubuntu-rtm/landing-001/+packages
[19:52] <rsalveti> alesage: pmcgowan: packages for amd64, armhf and i386 all failed to build
[19:52] <pmcgowan> rsalveti, I think it was a binary copy
[19:52] <rsalveti> oh, that's why
[19:52] <rsalveti> urgh, lp is in a weird state then
[19:52] <pmcgowan> due to some other issues
[19:52] <rsalveti> the packages are actually there
[19:52] <robru> kenvandine: actually it's better if you do a regular build. when I rewrote the build job I cleared out a bunch of weird corner cases, so now doing a "build" even though it's just a source package does the rightthing
[19:53] <kenvandine> robru, yeah, but the ppa was already building
[19:53] <rsalveti> pmcgowan: silo will refuse to accept that I guess
[19:53] <rsalveti> robru: maybe something that would need your help
[19:53] <pmcgowan> rsalveti, its all a mystery to me
[19:53] <kenvandine> robru, i already kicked a watch only build
[19:53] <kenvandine> hopefully that does the right thing
[19:53] <robru> kenvandine: yeah, but the build logic knows how to handle a source package, which is to say it doesn't try to build or upload anything, so you can just do a regular build.
[19:54] <robru> rsalveti: what?
[19:54] <rsalveti> robru: silo RTM 1
[19:54] <rsalveti> robru: it was a binary copy, that triggered new builds, which were canceled
[19:54] <robru> rsalveti: what about it?
[19:54] <rsalveti> robru: so the binaries are there, but lp is showing that the builds for all archs failed
[19:54] <robru> rsalveti: I've never seen that before
[19:54] <rsalveti> robru: me neither
[19:55] <alesage> rsalveti, yep I blithely proceeded to test in spite of the failed build
[19:55] <rsalveti> right, because the packages are indeed there
[19:55] <robru> rsalveti: so if the copy triggered new builds, does that mean the the binaries weren't copied?
[19:55] <alesage> "binary copy" occurred in a webapps backscroll so yeah
[19:56] <rsalveti> robru: that's what I thought as well
[19:56] <rsalveti> robru: but the binaries are there
[19:56] <rsalveti> seems the ppa is in a broken state
[19:57] <robru> rsalveti: can you delete it and copy again?
[19:57] <robru> make sure it's really a binary copy
[19:57] <rsalveti> robru: I will try
[19:57] <rsalveti> let me create another silo just to be sure
[19:58] <robru> kenvandine: can you explain the difference between content_exchange and content_exchange_source? does the first imply the second? apparently the app had the first one already when it had the problem i was describing
[19:58] <kenvandine> content_exchange gives access to a dbus path for the import
[19:58] <kenvandine> and content_exchange_source gives access to a dbus path for export
[19:59] <robru> kenvandine: hm, ok. thanks
[20:02] <robru> popey: I just uploaded 1.4, can you take a look at it?
[20:03] <popey> ya
[20:03] <robru> popey: thanks
[20:05] <popey> robru: still all white screen
[20:06] <robru> popey: funny it's working on my krillin
[20:06] * popey tries
[20:06] <popey> this was on my arale
[20:07] <awe_> rsalveti, anything update on the ofono silo while I was at the dentist? The package seems to have built, but the silo is still marked dirty, and the line from the spreadsheet gone
[20:07] <rsalveti> awe_: yeah, just test that and let me know if it's good for you
[20:07] <rsalveti> then we can ask QA to validate that
[20:07] <popey> robru: ok, panic over, works on krillin rtm proposed
[20:08] <robru> kenvandine: photo still doesn't show up in the gallery after saving
[20:08] <awe_> rsalveti, ok, I'll test and update the MR
[20:08] <kenvandine> robru, do you see it in the transfer indicator?
[20:08] <popey> robru: unusable thogh because while in gallery, the browser was killed
[20:09] <kenvandine> robru, silo 23 has dropped off the spreadsheet and the dashboard shows it as test passed
[20:09] <kenvandine> when i add it back, how do i associate my silo with the line on the spreadsheet?
[20:09] <kenvandine> robru, check the denials in syslog
[20:09] <robru> kenvandine: you have to set the values for columns M and N
[20:09] <popey> app lifecycle shouldn't kill apps that are using content hub
[20:09] <popey> makes it unusable
[20:10] <robru> popey: kenvandine: oh this is rubbish I'm just going to delete the app. people can just use it in the browser.
[20:10] <popey> dont worry, it wont work there either
[20:10] <kenvandine> robru, wait...
[20:10] <kenvandine> shouldn't be that hard
[20:11] <robru> kenvandine: I'm up to version 1.4 for what amounts to a browser bookmark. it's ludicrous how difficult it has been to develop this.
[20:12] <popey> hmm, worked in a browser
[20:12] <robru> popey: hilariously it seems to be single-use. after sending an image, you can't navigate back to the start page. if you try, it just launches the browser.
[20:13] <kenvandine> don't assign 65
[20:13] <kenvandine> just re-adding the landing i already have
[20:13] * kenvandine really hates the spreadsheet
[20:14] <robru> kenvandine: yeah
[20:14] <rsalveti> every click a crash
[20:14] <rsalveti> haha
[20:14] <rsalveti> awe_: should be "fine" now
[20:15] <kenvandine> robru, how do i know what to put in M?
[20:15] <kenvandine> the request ID
[20:15] <robru> kenvandine: it'll say in the dashboard, underneath the date under your name
[20:16] <awe_> thanks rsalveti
[20:16] <kenvandine> found it
[20:16] <awe_> any chance you could do a sanity check too?
[20:16] <kenvandine> thx
[20:16] <robru> kenvandine: yw
[20:16] <kenvandine> i really hope i don't have to put this back again
[20:16] <kenvandine> robru grep DENI /var/log/syslog
[20:16] <rsalveti> awe_: sure
[20:19] <robru> kenvandine: buh, how do I adb shell in? device is in dev mode...
[20:19] <kenvandine> phablet-shell
[20:20] <robru> kenvandine: just hangs
[20:21] <robru> kenvandine: lol, I wrote phablet-shell
[20:21] <kenvandine> i your device awake?
[20:21] <kenvandine> and unlocked?
[20:21] <robru> kenvandine: yes and yes
[20:21] <kenvandine> robru, your latest version in the store worked for me
[20:21] <kenvandine> saved it to the gallery
[20:21] <kenvandine> and i clicked open in the notification
[20:21] <robru> kenvandine: oh cool
[20:22] <kenvandine> and showed it
[20:22] <robru> brb
[20:27] <robru> kenvandine: yeah I have no idea how to connect to this thing. it's been a while since I've needed to. developer mode is enabled and the screen is unlocked. doesn't show up in 'adb devices'
[20:27] <kenvandine> wire?
[20:27] <kenvandine> unplug and plug back in
[20:28] <kenvandine> i know i have had to switch wires before
[20:28] <kenvandine> i have some that only seem to work for charging now
[20:29] <robru> kenvandine: tried a different wire and usb port, no luck
[20:30] <robru> kenvandine: and it's still not actually working, I can pick gallery app but the photo doesn't show up there after saving it
[20:30] <robru> kenvandine: this is with vivid, is content-hub broken in vivid? ;-)
[20:31] <kenvandine> nope... worked for me on vivid-proposed
[20:31] <kenvandine> did you get the notification that it finished downloading?
[20:31] <robru> kenvandine: no there was nothing. i just picked gallery app in the chooser and then it immediately returned to soonsnap
[20:32] <kenvandine> it shoudl do that
[20:32] <kenvandine> then when the download manager finishes downloading
[20:32] <kenvandine> it should fire a notification
[20:32] <kenvandine> asking you to dismiss or open
[20:32] <kenvandine> open should open gallery for you
[20:33] <kenvandine> i've tried it now several times
[20:33] <kenvandine> works :-D
[20:33] <robru> kenvandine: the notification says 'Unknown Download (0 bytes) in queue...''
[20:33] <kenvandine> that's something!
[20:33] <kenvandine> that means the policy change did fix the previous problem
[20:34] <kenvandine> sounds like download manager is angry
[20:34] <kenvandine> try rebooting :)
[20:34] <robru> kenvandine: actually that time was with the browser, I should try the app again
[20:35] <robru> kenvandine: same in the app
[20:35] <kenvandine> try a reboot
[20:35] <robru> kenvandine: k.
[20:35] <kenvandine> maybe udm is stuck somehow
[20:35] <kenvandine> dunno
[20:37] <robru> kenvandine: same, unknown 0 byts
[20:37] <kenvandine> whew... it has been torture just getting the spreadsheet ready
[20:37] <kenvandine> robru, ok, i dunno then
[20:37] <kenvandine> gotta talk to someone that knows about udm... the content-hub part seems to be working now :)
[20:37] <kenvandine> robru, but it's working for me :)
[20:37] <kenvandine> reliably
[20:38] <kenvandine> is the phone on wifi?
[20:38] <robru> kenvandine: yeah, on wifi
[20:38] <kenvandine> i guess it had to fetch the image to display it anyway
[20:38] <kenvandine> so you have the same problem running it just in the browser
[20:38] <kenvandine> that's interesting
[20:38] <robru> yeah the app can display the image, just not save it
[20:38] <robru> yeah
[20:38] <kenvandine> because that's unconfined
[20:39] <robru> kenvandine: are you trying it on krillin?
[20:39] <kenvandine> mako
[20:39] <kenvandine> vivid-proposed
[20:39] <robru> kenvandine: I just updated to 171
[20:42] <kenvandine> robru, worked fine for me on krillin/rtm-proposed
[20:42] <kenvandine> robru, share your picture with me
[20:42] <kenvandine> tell me the code to receive
[20:43] <robru> kenvandine: YHN7
[20:44] <kenvandine> ah ha!
[20:44] <kenvandine> i get the same thing with that photo
[20:44] <robru> hm?
[20:44] <kenvandine> receive this one
[20:44] <kenvandine> 37R2
[20:45] <robru> kenvandine: indeed that one shows up
[20:45] <kenvandine> so there's something about that photo
[20:45] <kenvandine> what format is it?
[20:46] <robru> kenvandine: well yours was a comic. mine was a photo from the camera, so probably much larger in size.
[20:46] <robru> kenvandine: gallery-app won't tell me anything about it.
[20:47] <robru> kenvandine: camera-app wont' tell me anything about it either. I assume it's a 3MB jpeg.
[20:48] <kenvandine> i reproduced it with a picture taken with the krillin
[20:49] <kenvandine> i think it's download manager choking on it
[20:49] <kenvandine> mandel, ^^
[20:49] <kenvandine> robru, this probably isn't the right channel for debugging this :)
[20:49] <robru> kenvandine: I also got the same failure with a different photo sent from my laptop, but also a real photo, not a comic
[20:50] <robru> kenvandine: what channel do you recommend?
[20:50] <robru> kenvandine: the other reproducer is a 3.9MB jpg
[20:50] <kenvandine> ubuntu-touch
[20:52] <kenvandine> robru, what happens if you hit pause all in the transfer indicator?
[20:52] <rsalveti> awe_: sanity with new ofono seems fine
[20:52] <rsalveti> but didn't try reproducing the bug
[20:53] <robru> kenvandine: it says 'Resume all', not 'pause all', and pressing it does nothing
[20:53] <rsalveti> robru: will publish rtm 3 instead of 1
[20:53] <rsalveti> binary copy worked fine in there
[20:53] <robru> renatu: k
[20:53] <rsalveti> same binaries
[20:53] <robru> rsalveti: k
[20:53] <robru> rsalveti: unping, sorry
[20:53] <robru> blah
[20:53] <robru> renatu: unping, sorry
[20:54] <robru> rsalveti: thanks for fixing that
[20:54] <awe_> rsalveti, ok. I'm doing some more extensive testing on my side; care to add a quick comment ( device, image # ) to the MP: https://code.launchpad.net/~alfonsosanchezbeato/ofono/only-one-powered/+merge/254906
[20:55] <rsalveti> sure
[20:56] <kenvandine> robru, i pressed pause all
[20:56] <kenvandine> and then it sent the notification and i got the image in gallery
[20:56] <kenvandine> so pause seemed to make it finish
[20:56] <rsalveti> pmcgowan: will trigger a new image once oxide-qt lands then
[20:56] <kenvandine> for me at least :)
[20:57] <robru> kenvandine: nope, doesnt' show me a pause all button
[20:58] <pmcgowan> rsalveti, ok so that got sorted?
[20:58] <kenvandine> robru, i think this must be a udm bug
[20:58] <rsalveti> pmcgowan: yeah, created a new silo, copied the binaries over and published that instead
[20:58] <kenvandine> not sure how to debug it
[20:59] <kenvandine> seems unrelated to content-hub
[20:59] <kenvandine> robru, need mandel to help debug that
[21:01] <kenvandine> robru, but at least now the webapp works as well as it does in the browser :)
[21:02] <robru> kenvandine: lol, OK. Thanks, i guess i won't delete it. Still annoyed though
[21:28] <pmcgowan> rsalveti, build? lots of good stuff today
[22:12] <rsalveti> building new RTM image
[22:20] <imgbot> [22:39] <robru> fginther: ping
[22:39] <fginther> robru, yes
[22:39] <robru> fginther: hey. when I'm looking at the webui for the ticket system, where's the silo assignment link? I thought you'd implemented that already
[22:42] <fginther> robru, Let me look, I don't think that landed, but maybe there was an MP for it...
[22:42] <robru> fginther: it's definitely a critical feature, if it doesn't exist then I need to do it from scratch
[23:45] <imgbot> [23:45] <imgbot>
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[15:58] <YungPete> Is there a meeting here today ?
[15:58] <YungPete> dpm, ping
[16:41] <dpm> hi YungPete
[16:42] <dpm> I don't think there was a meeting scheduled, no
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[04:08] <jabuk> M 1.1 > 7.km J od MEDVOD @01/04/2015 05:55:15 https://maps.google.com/?q=46.08+N,+14.43+E
[05:23] <napsy> jutro
[05:35] <napsy> http://www.gopl.io/
[05:35] <jabuk> The Go Programming Language
[06:35] <zdobersek> GUTEN MORGEN NSA
[07:48] <jabuk> M 2.4 > 10.km Z od KARLOVCA (HRVAŠKA) @01/04/2015 09:34:14 https://maps.google.com/?q=45.5+N,+15.43+E
[07:52] <napsy> u
[07:52] <napsy> ta pa ze trese
[08:05] <CrazyLemon> napsy intersport.. akcija koles :D
[08:06] * CrazyLemon si bo tudi kupil kolo!
[08:06] <CrazyLemon> ampak šele junija? oziroma kdaj je vračilo dohodnine
[08:06] <napsy> mislim da konc maja
[08:06] <CrazyLemon> no takrat! :D
[08:07] <napsy> tolk bos dobu nazaj? :)
[08:07] <CrazyLemon> dovolj :D
[08:08] <CrazyLemon> aja tolk..ja tolk ja :D
[08:08] <CrazyLemon> zdaj več ne vem sploh kaj počnem.. ker me je presenetila davčna uprava :D
[08:09] <napsy> aja si dans dobu
[08:10] <napsy> upam da bom js tut
[08:10] <napsy> mene je lansko leto
[08:10] <napsy> sm si lahka cel izpit za avto placu
[08:11] <CrazyLemon> aja.. lih zdaj vidim da je prvi april hmm.. upam da se pri FURSu ne hecajo :D
[08:12] <napsy> hehe ta bi bla dobra :D
[08:12] <CrazyLemon> napsy pol boš tudi ti dobu za novo kolo :D
[08:12] <napsy> letos ne
[08:12] <napsy> lansko leto sm se dobu ker sm prej eno leto delu pod avtorsko
[08:13] <CrazyLemon> tudi moja mama je ponavadi dobila za plačat dokler ni težila podjetju da vplačajo toliko kot morajo in letos je dobila nazaj nekaj :)
[08:14] <napsy> aha, sj letos bom dobu nekaj nazaj
[08:14] <napsy> sam ne za cel izpit :D
[08:14] <napsy> mam lih dost majhno placo da mi se ni treba placevat
[08:20] <CrazyLemon> a naj pošljem anonimni hate mail visionectu da zvišajo plače? :)
[08:21] <napsy> lol :D
[08:24] <CrazyLemon> http://intersport.dts.si/ISI_PPA_03-2015/#5/z evo napsy
[08:24] <jabuk> INTERSPORT Akcijski letak - april 2015
[08:24] <jabuk> Animated publication
[08:26] <napsy> u
[08:26] <napsy> on za 400 zgleda kr nice
[08:26] <CrazyLemon> un je dobr ja
[08:26] <CrazyLemon> če gledaš tistega na levi in ne tistega spodaj
[08:26] <napsy> na levi, ja
[08:27] <zdobersek> kteri levi?
[08:27] <CrazyLemon> moji levi tvoji desni
[08:27] <zdobersek> kolo na levi je zensko kolo
[08:27] <zdobersek> fyfi
[08:27] <zdobersek> but as you wish
[08:27] <zdobersek> it's a free country
[08:28] <CrazyLemon> zdobersek poglej naslov.. moško ali žensko kolo
[08:28] <zdobersek> CrazyLemon: ja, GENESIS Speed Cross SX 30
[08:29] <CrazyLemon> zdobersek ne
[08:29] <zdobersek> ktero pa?
[08:30] <zdobersek> hello kitty mas 130EUR
[08:30] <CrazyLemon> nakamura na levi
[08:30] <zdobersek> ktera nakamura?
[08:30] <CrazyLemon> zadnji menjalnik deore pa 180mm diski
[08:31] <zdobersek> na 4. strani?
[08:31] <CrazyLemon> a ima kdo tale wheel bee na kolesu? :D
[08:31] <CrazyLemon> zdobersek ja
[08:31] <zdobersek> ma mona, kaj potem linkas 5. stran
[08:32] <CrazyLemon> zdobersek ker sm upošteval napsyjev proračun :)
[08:34] <mihaweb> jutro... en problem imam tu.. moram extundelete naredit na ...raid :)
[08:34] <zdobersek> OH SNAP
[08:34] <mihaweb> torej ne sme bit mountano ane
[08:35] <mihaweb> zdobersek: <3
[08:35] <zdobersek> spread the love
[08:35] <jabuk> when I install SAP http://i.imgur.com/gxULfDP.gif
[08:37] <zdobersek> https://com.google/
[08:37] <jabuk> elgooG
[08:41] <mihaweb> ok, hardware raid je itak že vse vredu ane. samo rescue dam, pa bi moralo bit? https://help.1and1.com/servers-c37684/dedicated-server-linux-c37687/rescue-and-recovery-c37690/mount-a-partition-in-the-linux-rescue-system-a595711.html
[08:44] <Seniorita52> [Ubuntu.si] R33D3M33R: Ubuntu 15.04 bo zamudil https://www.ubuntu.si/forum/discussion/6309/ubuntu-15-04-bo-zamudil
[08:54] <napsy> oh joy
[08:54] <jabuk> monday morning http://i.imgur.com/eTApIUd.gif
[08:54] <napsy> systemd
[08:59] <zdobersek> THE D IS SILENT
[09:29] <mihaweb> Matthai: ti si predaval v ponedeljek ane? :)
[09:29] <CrazyLemon> .vreme koper
[09:29] <jabuk> ARSO: Koper Kapitanija (4m): 13.1°C @01.04.2015 9:00 UTC.
[09:29] <jabuk> Vlažnost: 86% zahodnik 4.6 m/s
[09:29] <jabuk> Sončni vzhod: 04:47:23, Kulminacija: 11:10:13, Sončni zahod: 17:33:03
[09:29] <jabuk> Dan je dolg: 12ur 45min 40s, Luna je v ščipu
[09:29] <CrazyLemon> its hot out there!
[09:32] <CrazyLemon> http://www.siol.net/novice/slovenija/2015/04/parlamentarna_menza_v_kitajske_roke.aspx
[09:32] <jabuk> Parlamentarna kuhinja z novim najemnikom: poslanci odslej na kitajski hrani | Slovenija - Planet Siol.net
[09:32] <jabuk> Državni zbor: Parlamentarna kuhinja dobiva novega najemnika. Prevzema jo kitajski podjetnik Lu Xianxhi, ki ima pri nas že dve restavraciji, zdaj pa bi rad za hrano svoje rodne dežele navdušil tudi naše poslance.
[09:32] <jabuk> When I see all the servers crashing one by one http://i.imgur.com/XUVljSy.gif
[09:33] <CrazyLemon> lol..tole pa je huda prvoaprilska :D
[09:35] <Matthai> mihaweb, da
[09:37] <mihaweb> Matthai: mislim, da ste pretiravali ti in slo-tech. Razen če izsilite downgrade na tist butast 1989 cipher, nimate hardwara za napad na trenutno enkripcijo. http://security.stackexchange.com/questions/21395/how-is-4g-lte-encrypted
[09:37] <mihaweb> sicer pa kul :D
[09:38] <Matthai> LTE se da ful dobro motit
[09:38] <mihaweb> edino on hrvat je bil mal mim.
[09:38] <Matthai> eno ozko frekvenco motiš, pa pade dol
[09:38] <Matthai> in potem se avtomatsko naredi fallback na GSM
[09:39] <mihaweb> hja...
[09:39] <mihaweb> life sucks :) TLS so hitro popravili, pri GSM to traja leta zaradi birokracije in kompatibilnosti ane
[09:39] <Matthai> tisti Hrvat je objavil seznam braniteljev Hrvatske, ki so imeli neke bonitete
[09:39] <Matthai> finta je bila v tem, da je bilo na seznamu mnogo ljudi, ki splooh niso bili v vojski
[09:39] <jabuk> http://rack.3.mshcdn.com/media/ZgkyMDEzLzA4LzA1L2QwL2JyYWRwaXR0LmJjMmQyLmdpZgpwCXRodW1iCTg1MHg1OTA-CmUJanBn/1a5a0c57/968/brad-pitt.jpg
[09:40] <mihaweb> tist hrvat me pogrel ko je rekel, "če piše AES, je kul".. f**** n00b
[09:40] <Matthai> so pa na podlagi seznama dobivali bonitete
[09:40] <mihaweb> cipher sam ni glavni problem, 3DES je dost močen za vse praktične namene
[09:40] <Matthai> aja, to... ja, ampak moraš vedet
[09:41] <Matthai> da če govorimo o hrvaških policajih je že ROT13 dovolj
[09:41] <mihaweb> ni glavni problem cipher. od random generatorja, do napada na PC, osebo...
[09:41] <Matthai> tako da.. je imel point :-D
[09:41] <mihaweb> neki je pogruntal ane, dobro je če je tok kriptiranih podatkov konstanten, on je govoril, da torrent kar za hec zalaufal, a sploh ne razume, kaj je naredil? :DD
[09:42] <mihaweb> rabiš konstanten traffic, da se ne vidi, kdaj si aktiven
[09:42] <mihaweb> in namest random generatorja je torrent tud kul ideja :D
[09:42] <mihaweb> sploh ker se prilagodi tvojemu prometu :D
[09:42] <mihaweb> če nič ne delaš, torrent na polno, sicer mal mn na polno
[09:42] <mihaweb> sam kak QoS
[09:43] <mihaweb> če je to pogruntal, je narobe razložil... ker tist da *** policaje je poceni neumnost
[09:52] <mihaweb> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Traffic_analysis#Countermeasures
[09:52] <jabuk> Traffic analysis - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
[09:52] <mihaweb> is difficult to defeat traffic analysis without both encrypting messages and masking the channel. When no actual messages are being sent, the channel can be masked [9] by sending dummy traffic, similar to the encrypted traffic, thereby keeping bandwidth usage constant .[10] "It is very hard to hide information about the size or timing of messages. The known solutions require Alice to send a continuous stream of messages at the m
[09:53] <mihaweb> Matthai: če ga kaj vidiš mu čestitaj za tole :D
[09:53] <mihaweb> jaz sem bil raje tiho :D
[09:54] <mihaweb> torrent je kul, ker sicer lahko imaš konstanten upload, download pa pretežno ti noben ne pošilja neumnosti. torej ker na drugi strani ni enakega specializiranega programa, je torrent genialna ideja :D
[09:55] <Matthai> ja, saj to je jasno
[09:55] <Matthai> v bistvu bi to morala vojska delati
[09:55] <mihaweb> saj dela.
[09:55] <Matthai> če si bral na Slo-Tech ono temo o tem kako ima hrvaška vojska kao težave s tem
[09:56] <Matthai> da so telekom prodali Deutsche Telekomju
[09:56] <mihaweb> Matthai: v čem je problem. telekom privzameš da je sovražen. tudi če je tvoj, ne veš kdaj kak napadalec laufa kaj dodatnega.
[09:56] <mihaweb> torej lahko sicer naredi denial of service, ampak to je očitno in večinoma (razen v izrednih razmerah) nepraktično
[09:57] <napsy> oh no it didn't
[09:57] <napsy> nevihta prihaja
[09:57] <napsy> molimo!
[09:57] <mihaweb> napsy: codeword? :D
[09:57] <napsy> nene, precej dobesedno :D
[09:58] <napsy> aja
[09:58] <mihaweb> Matthai: http://www.theguardian.com/technology/2015/mar/23/how-to-tell-if-youve-been-hacked How do you cope with that danger? We could take a lesson from the NSA, which knows a thing or two about unauthorised intrusion. In December 2010, Deborah Plunkett, head of the NSA’s Information Assurance Directorate, admitted that there was “no such thing as ‘secure’ anymore”. Instead, the agency works under the assumption that
[09:58] <napsy> hehe, blietzkrieg
[09:58] <mihaweb> napsy: midva o hrvaški vojski, ti pa o Nevihti
[09:58] <mihaweb> ccc
[10:01] <napsy> kwa ga lije
[10:02] <Matthai> mihaweb, ampak pri nas sta Veber in OVS očitno mnenja, da če je Telekom "naš", je vse kul
[10:03] <mihaweb> razumem jaz vebra, on bi rad vohunil za janšo in za mano. cheap *** slut
[10:06] <zdobersek> :>
[10:15] <dz0ny> http://podcrto.si/nepostene-poslovne-prakse-zavajanja-s-katerimi-vam-nasi-trgovci-poskusajo-stanjsati-denarnico/
[10:15] <jabuk> Nepoštene poslovne prakse: zavajanja, s katerimi vam poskušajo naši trgovci stanjšati denarnico • Pod črto
[10:16] <napsy> http://existentialcomics.com/comic/74
[10:16] <jabuk> Pokemon Philosophy - Existential Comics
[10:17] <mihaweb> http://www.siol.net/novice/tehnologija/racunalnistvo/2015/04/cukrarna_razvoj_uporabniskih_vmesnikov_za_mobilne_naprave.aspx
[10:17] <jabuk> Najboljši vmesniki pametnih telefonov bodo prihajali iz Cukrarne | Računalništvo - Planet Siol.net
[10:17] <jabuk> Cukrarna: Neimenovan azijski proizvajalec mobilnih telefonov se zanima, da bi v ljubljanski Cukrarni vzpostavil evropsko središče za razvoj naprednih uporabniških vmesnikov. Zunanjo podobo stavbe bodo ohranili.
[10:17] <mihaweb> končno silikonska dolina
[10:20] <zdobersek> SREDA 01.04.2015, 12:12
[10:22] <mihaweb> hehe
[10:22] <mihaweb> jah, saj. too good to be true a :p
[10:24] <idioterna> cukrarno je treba ohrant
[10:27] <mihaweb> Matthai: a boste imeli še kaj, čist mičken manj n00bsko? :D
[10:27] <mihaweb> Matthai: je bil kul dogodek, dost ljudi
[10:29] <napsy> "zunanjo podobo bodo ohranili"
[10:31] <idioterna> that's what she said
[10:33] <zdobersek> jokingly
[10:41] <napsy> lol
[10:51] <mihaweb> napsy: sem moral dat "didn't understand the joke"
[10:58] <CrazyLemon> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hydLZJXG3Tk
[10:58] <jabuk> Smartbox by Inbox: the mailbox of tomorrow, today - YouTube
[10:58] <jabuk> We’re excited to introduce Smartbox—a better, smarter mailbox that fuses physical mail with everything you love about the electronic kind. Smartbox is curren...
[10:59] <CrazyLemon> haha..epic :D
[12:22] <CrazyLemon> http://val202.rtvslo.si/2015/04/izreden-odstrel-nutrij/
[12:22] <jabuk> Izreden odstrel nutrij – Val 202
[12:38] <zdobersek> to je for real?
[12:39] <yang> https://com.google
[12:39] <jabuk> elgooG
[12:48] <upd> http://www.zurnal24.si/omejitve-pri-nabiranju-regrata-clanek-247788
[12:48] <jabuk> Omejitve pri nabiranju regrata - zurnal24
[12:48] <jabuk> Sezona nabiranja regrata je v polnem teku, le malokdo pa je seznanjen z novimi predpisi, po katerih je z letošnjim letom nabiranje regrata omejeno.
[12:51] <anny_> Dobra!
[12:51] <mihaweb> ančka dan
[12:52] <anny_> miha, dan :*
[12:55] <mihaweb> :*
[12:59] <dz0ny> zdobersek: "to je for real?" nope
[13:05] <upd> v google vpišite do a barrel roll
[13:09] <CrazyLemon> zdobersek mene nebi presenečalo če bi bilo for real
[13:10] <zdobersek> !g do a barrel roll
[13:11] <zdobersek> Seniorita?
[13:12] <CrazyLemon> no seniorita
[13:12] <idioterna> :internet:
[13:20] <CrazyLemon> hah..youtube videi imajo eno novo ikonco :D
[13:23] <idioterna> nc, grem mal s kolesom po internetu
[13:24] <idioterna> CrazyLemon: kje vids ikonco
[13:24] <CrazyLemon> idioterna pri videih
[13:25] <CrazyLemon> je ena ikonca spodaj desno
[13:25] <CrazyLemon> "Add music"
[13:25] <idioterna> nimam
[14:12] <Seniorita> [Ubuntu Security] USN-2555-1: Libgcrypt vulnerabilities http://www.ubuntu.com/usn/usn-2555-1/
[14:13] <Seniorita> [Ubuntu Security] USN-2554-1: GnuPG vulnerabilities http://www.ubuntu.com/usn/usn-2554-1/
[14:42] <msev> živjo, a je možno respinat distro? da si dodaš neke programe notr, ki jih želiš, pa si narediš potem usb image, da ga mogoče lahko live-bootneš na kšni windows tablci, če že nemoreš inštalirat tam poleg windowsa,..in pa a je možno da če je dovolj velik usb ključek, da nekaj tega prostora uporabi za shranjevanje kakšnih manjših datotek?
[14:50] <Seniorita> [Ubuntu Security] USN-2550-1: Firefox vulnerabilities http://www.ubuntu.com/usn/usn-2550-1/
[15:25] <lynxlynxlynx> msev: valda
[15:25] <lynxlynxlynx> recimo opensuse ma to super zrihtano afaik
[16:21] <CrazyLemon> msev poglej si !g github ubuntu-si
[16:21] <Seniorita> ubuntu-si/ubuntu-si · GitHub https://github.com/ubuntu-si/ubuntu-si
[16:22] <CrazyLemon> pa ko boš potem usb rihtal naredi persistant usb
[16:22] <CrazyLemon> in določiš koliko placa želiš zravn na usbju
[16:22] <zdobersek> whooaaaa
[16:22] <CrazyLemon> whooooa nelly!
[16:34] <msev> Kul :)
[16:36] <zdobersek> kululululuululululelelelelelelele
[16:44] <CrazyLemon> zdobersek ti si 180ish visok ane?
[16:44] <zdobersek> AYE AYE MIDGIE
[16:45] <CrazyLemon> zdobersek 185? katera pa je velikost folije'
[16:45] <zdobersek> CrazyLemon: L
[16:46] <CrazyLemon> zdobersek 56 torej ..hmm
[16:46] <zdobersek> => aerodynamic
[16:46] <zdobersek> .yt kraftwerk areodynamik
[16:46] <jabuk> KRAFTWERK areodynamik TV video (7 minut) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9wzGnpFCDs8 ♥2 ▶218
[16:47] <CrazyLemon> zdaj gledam pinarello framea.. pa po velikosti pravijo XL po saddle height pa je L..
[16:47] <zdobersek> CrazyLemon: glej glede na inseam
[16:48] <CrazyLemon> zdobersek vedno?
[16:48] <zdobersek> am, ne
[16:48] <CrazyLemon> ker pravijo ko je inseam > 85 moraš neki odštevat pa bla bla
[16:48] <CrazyLemon> drugi pa pravijo da preprosto pomnožiš inseam * 0.88x
[16:48] <msevph> Lynxlynx tist suse studio pomoje neb biu primeren zato ker rabm gor en software iz githuba, tm pa verjetn dobis zadeve sam iz njihovega build servisa
[16:49] <zdobersek> CrazyLemon: caki, ti si reku, da naus nikol specijalke vozu
[16:49] <CrazyLemon> zdobersek when?!?
[16:49] <CrazyLemon> zdobersek show me the log!
[16:51] <zdobersek> whatevz
[16:51] <zdobersek> CrazyLemon: kolk si velik?
[16:51] <CrazyLemon> zdobersek 188
[16:51] <zdobersek> CrazyLemon: velik, ne visok
[16:52] <zdobersek> al pa
[16:52] <zdobersek> CrazyLemon: velik, ne star
[16:52] <zdobersek> OH SNAP
[16:52] <CrazyLemon> zdobersek thats private information which a gentleman never shares
[16:53] <zdobersek> CrazyLemon: kolk je pa inseam?
[16:53] <CrazyLemon> zdobersek thats private information which a gentleman never shares
[16:53] <zdobersek> kk
[16:53] <CrazyLemon> zdobersek 90
[16:54] <zdobersek> u no gentleman
[16:54] <zdobersek> anyway
[16:56] <zdobersek> najboljs bi blo, da gres prodajalca vprasat
[16:57] <CrazyLemon> torej..sam catfishal si me?!?
[16:57] <CrazyLemon> i'm not big enough for you?!?!
[16:57] * CrazyLemon lols
[16:57] <zdobersek> inseam te lahko grdo zajebe, ce je prevelik bi ti zgornji trup kolesa komot sedel na manjsi okvir, ampak imas potem problem s sedezno oporo
[16:58] <zdobersek> drugace pa pac pases na XL okvir, najbrz
[16:59] <zdobersek> najboljs, da se posvetujes se s sovelikani
[17:00] <CrazyLemon> sm se sam.. eden je kupil kolo in ne ve kako velik je okvir
[17:01] <CrazyLemon> na okvirju pa tudi ne piše :D
[17:01] <CrazyLemon> stupid ghost
[17:01] <zdobersek> pol pa meter vzames v roke, ane
[17:04] <CrazyLemon> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pthM_gR6VbQ
[17:04] <jabuk> Parkinson's diagnosis by typing on a keyboard - YouTube
[17:04] <Seniorita> Parkinson's diagnosis by typing on a keyboard - YouTube
[17:04] <jabuk> In a new study from MIT, researchers show how analyzing people's keystrokes as they type can reveal a great deal of information about the state of their moto...
[17:04] <Seniorita> »In a new study from MIT, researchers show how analyzing people's keystrokes as they type can reveal a great deal of information about the state of their moto...«
[17:08] <upd_> kwaj to
[17:08] <upd_> kak jen nick tega
[17:08] <upd_> kdo to spama
[17:09] <zdobersek> hum?
[17:09] <upd> -gh-jablana/#ubuntu-si- [ircbot]
[17:09] <CrazyLemon> ni jen..ampak jablana
[17:09] <upd> zakaj ne vidim jablane
[17:12] <CrazyLemon> ker ne obstaja!
[17:13] <upd> bah
[17:39] <zdobbie> .yt baah
[17:39] <jabuk> Ghana Gospel Mix 11 - Rev. Seth Baah Mix (ena ura) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XNx1UZ_3g3s ♥1,393 ▶599,198
[17:40] <zdobbie> .yt baaah
[17:40] <jabuk> Blackadder - General Melchett (Stephen Fry), the Exclamations - 'Baaah!' (2 minuti) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Daa8ZnxC-0Y ♥710 ▶183,608
[17:48] <CrazyLemon> R33D3M33R you fooled sasa.. vidim da je shareala link na fbju :D
[17:48] <R33D3M33R> :)
[17:49] <idioterna> evo
[17:49] <idioterna> https://bou.si/pic/sunny-moon-silos.jpg
[17:49] <idioterna> https://bou.si/pic/sunny-moon-sneznik-z-javora.jpg
[17:49] <idioterna> https://bou.si/pic/sunny-moon-javor-ridge-summit.jpg
[17:49] <idioterna> https://bou.si/pic/sunny-moon-ljubljana-z-javora.jpg
[17:49] <idioterna> https://bou.si/pic/sunny-moon-pecar-1km.jpg
[17:49] <jabuk> Ni opisa
[17:49] <jabuk> Ni opisa
[17:49] <jabuk> Ni opisa
[17:49] <idioterna> https://bou.si/pic/sunny-moon-pecar-climb.jpg
[17:49] <jabuk> Ni opisa
[17:49] <jabuk> Ni opisa
[17:49] <jabuk> Ni opisa
[17:49] <idioterna> ej tenks japka, lepo's povedou
[17:49] <CrazyLemon> dz0ny ^
[17:50] <CrazyLemon> v bistvu sam merge dej na zadnji pull request pa rešiš fse!
[17:51] <CrazyLemon> idioterna silos pa pecar-climb sta lepi
[17:52] <idioterna> thanks, bom zabelezu
[17:53] <CrazyLemon> you have my approval
[18:20] <zdobbie> force push!
[18:20] <zdobbie> shame on you!
[18:31] <msevph> Tole na ubuntu si githubu k kompajlas svoj distro ane, a to mora bit priklopljeno v tisto napravo na kateri mislis uproabljat "svoj" distro? In pa kko ga sploh kustomiziras?
[18:48] <CrazyLemon> msevph lol ne.. ti na koncu zbuildaš distro
[18:49] <CrazyLemon> in imaš seznam tam kjer dodaš pakete
[18:49] <CrazyLemon> dej mal poklikaj no
[18:49] <CrazyLemon> :)
[18:49] <CrazyLemon> zbuildaš ISO*
[18:50] <msevph> A za vse arhitekture izberes ze v makefileu al krkol, bom pogledov zj hehe
[18:51] <CrazyLemon> https://github.com/ubuntu-si/ubuntu-si/blob/12.04/si-ubuntu-defaults/recommends.txt
[18:51] <Seniorita> ubuntu-si/recommends.txt at 12.04 · ubuntu-si/ubuntu-si · GitHub
[18:51] <Seniorita> »ubuntu-si - Slovenska predloga za cd build«
[18:51] <jabuk> when a bug appears on friday night http://i.imgur.com/jAoGfDM.gif
[18:51] <miha> Haha jabuk
[18:52] <zdobbie> BAIII
[18:54] <msevph> Sam te pol instalira iz default repotov a ne, kaj pa ce hocm ksn app iz githuba gor dt, pa se dependancy-e, za te dependancy-je mi je kul ker so pac pomoje v default repotu, ampak za sam github app mi ni jasn, pa se kompajlat ga je treba
[18:55] <CrazyLemon> boš pač mal pogoogleal al pa dz0nyju plačal pir
[18:56] <dz0ny> msevph: ppa mors nardit
[18:56] <dz0ny> pa launchpad
[18:56] <dz0ny> svoj repo morš met
[18:57] <msevph> Aha najs :) kul
[18:58] <dz0ny> sam ce to delas sam za sebe
[18:58] <dz0ny> je mogoce ansible lazji
[18:58] <dz0ny> msevph: https://github.com/dz0ny/mopidy-core-image
[18:58] <Seniorita> dz0ny/mopidy-core-image · GitHub
[18:58] <Seniorita> »Contribute to mopidy-core-image development by creating an account on GitHub.«
[18:59] <msevph> Bom prebral :) hvala
[19:32] <msevph> Sam z ubuntu coreom bo vec dela v terminalu ane, no sj ce ne bo prevec bo vredu hehe
[19:32] <msevph> Vidm da mas to narejen for your audiophile needs :)
[19:33] <zdobbie> mopidy!
[19:50] <msev> a pol ubuntu core lahko tut normaln dual-bootaš zravn winsov, pa ni dileme z uefijem etc. zj na tanovih napravah
[19:50] <msev> sam da pač mn zasede kot normaln distro
[19:50] <msev> pa si ga lahko bolj prilagodiš samo za svoje potrebe
[19:51] <msev> a boste tale iso z github-a posodobil na tanov lts? :D
[19:54] <dz0ny> msev: a se javis :)
[19:56] <msev> lol
[19:56] <msev> dzony js sm luzer, če bi biu pro bi z veseljem hehe
[19:56] <dz0ny> ubuntu-core je osnova za vse builde
[19:57] <dz0ny> tud oni k zacnejo
[19:57] <dz0ny> vzamejo to za osnovo
[19:57] <dz0ny> pol pa boostrapajo kr cjo gor
[19:57] <msev> ta ubuntu core nima gui-ja ane :)
[19:57] <msev> moram pogledat sploh na youtubeu kko to zgleda
[19:59] <msev> pač terminal se ti odpre pol pa dodajaš stvari notr da pol kej vidš ane :)
[20:01] <msev> snappy install owncloud
[20:01] <msev> hmmm, a pol moram vseen nek repo postavt
[20:02] <msev> za tole https://github.com/stronnag/mwptools
[20:02] <Seniorita> stronnag/mwptools · GitHub
[20:02] <Seniorita> »mwptools - planner and tools for multiwii nav«
[20:09] <msev> a kdo od vs ma kšn custom računalnik za owncloud, da mate svoj oblak, a pač niste paranoični pa uporabljate googlove oz. dropbox oblačne storitve? :D
[20:09] <jabuk> When I compile my “so perfect” code http://tclhost.com/jrChNla.gif
[20:12] <msev> fajn bi bil kšn github repo, kjer bi gor dajali vi svoje favorite glede kakšnih appov k niso že po defaultu gor, recimo mam tut js kr neki zanimivih favoritov hehe
[20:13] <msev> podobn kukr LinuxActionShow Picks :)
[20:13] <msev> a kj gledate LAS?
[20:17] <CrazyLemon> ne
[20:20] <msev> kšn navdušenec nad gnome-om 3.16
[20:20] <upd> dropbox no problems
[20:21] <msev> a mate rajš gnome a cinnamon a unity? :D
[20:23] <CrazyLemon> madona koliko vprašanj
[20:25] <msevph> Im on fire today
[20:25] <msevph> Msev is chatty
[20:29] <CrazyLemon> msev is a girl!
[20:29] <CrazyLemon> :p
[20:32] <Seniorita> [Ubuntu.si] krofeta: Raspberry PI rtsp https://www.ubuntu.si/forum/discussion/6310/raspberry-pi-rtsp
[20:33] <yang> msevph: jst sem anti-SaaSS, je pa prirocen...
[20:33] <yang> da zadeve redundancno hostas na svoji lokaciji je kr neki dnara treba vrect v opremo
[20:34] <msevph> Crazylemon smotan, sam to res drzi za zenske, te moram potrdit
[20:34] <yang> napram tistih 20 eur mesecno, da so zadeve lepo na Amazon cloudu, al pa kje drugje mrbit celo brezplacno
[20:36] <CrazyLemon> msevph no ja..tudi za določene moške tudi drži
[20:37] <CrazyLemon> dz0ny krofeta needs you
[20:38] <msevph> Hahaha dj no ce en dan mau vec sprasujem pa res ni tok hudo
[20:38] <dz0ny> who?
[20:38] <CrazyLemon> msevph seveda je..pol se boš navadil in bo piz...
[20:39] <CrazyLemon> dz0ny forum
[20:46] <msevph> Haha
[20:47] <msevph> Crazylemon sam aves kva je fajn da je vec razlicnih linux oriented irc kanalov tko da se pol vprasanja tut na angleze, americane itd porazdelijo hehe
[20:48] <msev> askdzony.com :)
[20:53] <Seniorita> [Ubuntu Security] USN-2553-2: LibTIFF regression http://www.ubuntu.com/usn/usn-2553-2/
[20:58] <dz0ny> CrazyLemon: page is no more
[20:58] <CrazyLemon> dz0ny ?
[20:59] <dz0ny> krofeta
[20:59] <dz0ny> http://www.raspberry-projects.com/pi/pi-hardware/raspberry-pi-camera/streaming-video-using-vlc-player
[20:59] <Seniorita> Streaming Video Using VLC Player – Raspberry Pi Projects
[21:04] <msev> ja yang zj je ta amazon cloud ful postal kompetitiven
[21:19] <msev> jao preveč vprašanj mam spet, se bom zadržou :D
[21:26] <dz0ny> msev: izpovej se
[21:26] <msev> zj že drugje sprašujem hehe
[21:27] <msev> loh pa tut tuki, "snappy" je kot neka alternativa "apt-get" ane?
[21:27] <msev> snappy ni enako ubuntu core ane
[21:31] <anny_> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-x-kASelyyU
[21:31] <Seniorita> ¡A LAS BARRICADAS! 2010 - YouTube
[21:31] <Seniorita> »Nueva versión de "¡A las barricadas!" grabada por la CNT en el conservatorio "Juan Crisóstomo de Arriaga" de Bilbao el 14 de Noviembre de 2009 con motivo del...«
[21:37] <CrazyLemon> msevph ni enako ne.. in ja lahko bi se reklo da je podobno apt-getu
[21:37] <CrazyLemon> v smislu da inštalira aplikacije
[21:37] <msevph> Ja to ja
[21:38] <CrazyLemon> potem je podobno apt-cacheu v smislu da iščeš aplikacije in prikažeš opis
[21:38] <msevph> Vem pa tut da je baje nekak bolj odporno na breakage al neki tazga
[21:38] <CrazyLemon> ampak omogoča še rollback
[21:38] <msevph> Ja to
[21:38] <msevph> To sm tut prebral hehe
[21:38] <CrazyLemon> no.. kaj pol sprašuješ če si že prebral :p
[21:39] * CrazyLemon skoči na anny_
[21:39] * anny_ pritisne Crazylemon ob zid
[21:39] * CrazyLemon starts crying
[21:39] <msevph> Hotness
[21:39] <CrazyLemon> bully :(
[21:39] <anny_> mrcina
[21:40] <CrazyLemon> lol :)
[21:41] <anny_> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3wJkXIa92u4
[21:41] <Seniorita> Stealing Girlfriends Prank! -If You Want To Have A Girlfriend, Just Steal From The Others! - YouTube
[21:41] <anny_> poglej okrog 1:00 minute
[21:42] <anny_> hihi
[21:42] <CrazyLemon> taka si ti..stealas drugim
[21:43] <anny_> guilty as charged
[21:45] <anny_> Darwin je mel prav
[21:47] <CrazyLemon> has he'
[21:50] <CrazyLemon> lol..was*
[21:50] <anny_> jep
[21:51] <anny_> http://41.media.tumblr.com/8d3df35b9ac03947edfa5b84b501979f/tumblr_mqk03lb6E61svhwsuo1_500.jpg
[21:52] <CrazyLemon> kebab bi :(
[21:54] <anny_> majckeno je pozno
[21:54] <CrazyLemon> mhm
[21:57] <msevph> A mas jeklen zelodec limona :)
[21:57] <anny_> data:image/jpeg;base64,/9j/4AAQSkZJRgABAQAAAQABAAD/2wCEAAkGBxQSEhQUEBQWFRUWGRYaGBQYFhcYFRgdFxcYGBgaGBccHCggGholHhgYITEiJSkrMC4wHR8zODMsNygtLisBCgoKDg0OGxAQGzAmICQyLywyLSw0LS8sLCwwLCwsLSwuLC0tLywvLSwsLCwsLCwsLC8sLCwsLC8sLCwsLCwvLP/AABEIALcBEwMBIgACEQEDEQH/xAAcAAABBQEBAQAAAAAAAAAAAAAEAAEDBQYCBwj/xABBEAACAQIEAwYDBwIEBAcBAAABAhEAAwQSITEFQVEGEyJhcYEykaEHI0JSscHwFNEVYnLhM1OC8SRDRGOSorIW/8QAGgEAAgMBAQAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAQIAAwQFBv/EADIRAAEEAQMBBgUEAgMBAA
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[21:57] <anny_> C5iYO0ny0gdBVdhbpYBS2m0EajpvyrkqEeSdJ9qpy3yCBbtiVveH3BcXXX9OleIdpuDHC4m5aPwzKHqrar/AG9q9Vt41lykGVG5Hn1qj+0bDC9aS8PiTQ+hIH6xXS7duNdRt7/2s+nBbJ4FeahKkCVIqVIEoFy6YaoQldhKmCV0EpS5OGqEJT5KnCV0EpS5HFQBKcJU4SuglLkmxQ+SlkonJSyUM0cUNkpZKJyU2Spkpih8lPU+SnqZKYry2npqevTryCelSpwKC
[21:57] <dz0ny> anny_: !!
[21:57] <anny_> auč
[21:57] * anny_ se gre skrit
[21:57] <dz0ny> anny_: no boobs here
[21:58] <anny_> hotela sem samo dati krejziju kebab
[21:58] <CrazyLemon> dz0ny pfffffffffft!
[21:58] <CrazyLemon> take pa zamerim
[21:58] <anny_> http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2012/04/30/article-2137228-0E58831400000578-756_468x286.jpg
[21:59] <dz0ny> joj ne mi z food zvecer no
[21:59] <CrazyLemon> manjka tista omaka :(
[21:59] <anny_> rumena?
[21:59] <dz0ny> majoneza+kečap+začimbe?
[21:59] <CrazyLemon> http://kebabemir.pl/wp-content/uploads/2014/11/kebab1.jpg
[21:59] <CrazyLemon> ne..pri nas je bela
[21:59] <msevph> Lol kasn url dolg
[22:00] <CrazyLemon> okus ma..hm jogurt pa še neki
[22:00] <CrazyLemon> česen?
[22:00] <CrazyLemon> ampak tale kebab1 je pa epic
[22:00] <CrazyLemon> kr za ozadje bi ga mel
[22:00] <CrazyLemon> :D
[22:00] <anny_> potem boš skoz lačen
[22:00] <CrazyLemon> sej sm tko al tko skoz lačen!
[22:00] <CrazyLemon> :/
[22:01] <CrazyLemon> msevph ni url :)
[22:01] <anny_> ti še rasteš
[22:02] <anny_> dz0ny...no boobs praviš?
[22:03] <msevph> Noc folk
[22:04] <anny_> nočko
[22:04] <CrazyLemon> http://okusno.je/moj-recept/kebab-omaki
[22:04] <Seniorita> Okusno.je - Recept: Kebab omaki
[22:04] <Seniorita> »Kebab omaka- rdeča in bela.«
[22:04] <CrazyLemon> to je to http://www.kulinarika.net/recepti/17122/omake/kebab-omaka/ !
[22:04] <Seniorita> Recept: Kebab omaka - Kulinarika.net
[22:04] <Seniorita> »omaka, kot jo dobite v fast food beznicah s kebabom :)«
[22:04] <CrazyLemon> simple and effective
[22:05] <CrazyLemon> sam tudi tukaj še neki manjka
[22:05] <CrazyLemon> ker ni sam česen pa jogurt
[22:05] <anny_> recept v komentarjih je boljši
[22:05] <anny_> čili
[22:07] <CrazyLemon> meh.. grem spat.. lačen :(
[22:07] <CrazyLemon> adijo :/
[22:09] <anny_> ln
[22:10] <anny_> ko pride polnoč in gorijo le še sveče
[22:10] <anny_> spet te poljubim...voščim ti veliko sreče :*
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[07:48] <Kilos> hi ongolaBoy
[08:30] <lin> hey kilos
[08:31] <Kilos> hi lin
[09:19] <Kilos> hi Neo31 wb
[09:20] <Kilos> where you been
[09:20] <Kilos> bad boy
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2015-04-01-#ubuntu-vn
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[03:22] <vubuntor748> khong hoi ah
[03:23] <Stanley00> ?
[03:24] <vubuntor748> huong dan cach login vao quyen root trong ubuntu 12.04 di
[03:25] <Stanley00> bạn hôm qua đấy à?
[03:25] <vubuntor748> khong phai bua nay moi len
[03:25] <vubuntor748> tai nganh minh ung dung ubuntu 10.04
[03:25] <MrTuxHdb> vubuntor748: liên quan ma gì
[03:26] <MrTuxHdb> chạy root với VLC nó còn ếu cho chạy
[03:26] <MrTuxHdb> là biết việc dùng root để login bình thường
[03:26] <MrTuxHdb> là cái gì đó cần hạn chế rồi
[03:26] <vubuntor748> hum nay minh lam thu ubuntu 12.04 nhu k vao quyen root bang giao dien dc
[03:27] <MrTuxHdb> thì vào quyền khác
[03:27] <vubuntor748> minh muon login bang giao dien vao quyen root luon kia
[03:27] <MrTuxHdb> để làm cái gì?
[03:27] <vubuntor748> vao quen khach thi noi gi nua
[03:27] <Stanley00> tự search mà còn không ra thì tốt hơn là không nên làm. Hết chuyện. :3
[03:27] <vubuntor748> phan mem cua minh chi su dung dc tren quyen root nen can dang nhap vao no
[03:28] <Stanley00> "bạn hôm qua đấy à?"... cho bạn cơ hội lần nữa...
[03:28] <vubuntor748> da noi k fai ban hum qua ma
[03:28] <MrTuxHdb> vubuntor748: điêu =)
[03:29] <MrTuxHdb> chỉ sử dụng được với root
[03:29] <MrTuxHdb> thì cần gì đăng nhập quyền root
[03:29] <vubuntor748> dieu gi troi. lan dau moi hoi do
[03:29] <MrTuxHdb> 2 vấn đề khác nhau
[03:29] <lewtds> sudo!
[03:29] <MrTuxHdb> !sudo
[03:29] <vubuntor748> su dung ubuntu 10.04 login vao root dc nhu doi voi ubuntu 12.04 la k
[03:30] <lewtds> !odus
[03:30] <MrTuxHdb> vubuntor748: thế nãy giờ mọi người nói
[03:30] <MrTuxHdb> không đọc à
[03:30] <vubuntor748> sudo thi noi gi. login bang giao dien do hoa kia
[03:30] <lewtds> lol phần mềm bạn cần root, thế sudo lại chả root rồi còn gì
[03:31] * lewtds chưa thấy phần mềm nào cần root mà lại k chạy vs sudo
[03:31] <vubuntor748> tom lai huong dan minh cach login vao quyen root tren giao dien ubuntu 12.04 dum di
[03:31] <vubuntor748> chuyen khac minh lo dc
[03:31] <lewtds> nope, k biết
[03:31] <MrTuxHdb> tóm lại là bạn dốt
[03:32] <vubuntor748> ok,
[03:32] <MrTuxHdb> end story
[03:32] <vubuntor748> may ngu nhu heo ma tinh tuong. ngu ma toa ra nguy hiem
[03:32] <MrTuxHdb> ờ
[03:32] <MrTuxHdb> :3
[03:32] <Stanley00> lolz
[03:33] <MrTuxHdb> chắc lại phần mềm smarthouse
[03:33] <MrTuxHdb> hay smartcontrol gì gì hử
[03:33] <MrTuxHdb> =]]
[03:34] <MrTuxHdb> Stanley00: chắc dân trong này rồi
[03:34] <MrTuxHdb> :))
[03:35] <MrTuxHdb> chứ dân Bắc đâu có dùng từ heo đâu :3
[03:36] <Stanley00> MrTuxHdb: chắc thế :3
[03:39] <lewtds> như kiểu ku này vs ku hôm qua học cùng lớp ý
[03:39] <lewtds> thầy bảo phải login bằng root
[03:39] <lewtds> thế là cùng lên hỏi :3
[03:39] <lewtds> máy demo ở trường là 10.04
[03:39] <lewtds> máy chạy ở nhà là 12.04 lol
[03:48] <MrTuxHdb> lewtds: =]]
[03:48] <MrTuxHdb> SV vui nhể
[03:48] <MrTuxHdb> chê dốt là nó chửi luôn
[03:48] <MrTuxHdb> =))
[03:49] <Stanley00> tên này nóng hơn tên hôm qua nhỉ =]]
[03:49] <Stanley00> MrTuxHdb: dân mạng mà... biết hắn là ai đâu mà hắn phải ngại =]]
[03:50] <lewtds> những loại đấy thì ở đâu cũng thế thôi
[03:50] <lewtds> việc gì phải trên mạng
[03:50] <MrTuxHdb> Stanley00: đếu liên quan
[03:50] <Stanley00> ở ngoài mà thấy to con + có xâm trổ thì cũng ngại chứ =]]
[03:51] <MrTuxHdb> mà thằng này thuộc dạng bố láo
[13:16] <vubuntor727> Toi dang can giup do
[13:17] <vubuntor727> lam sao de lay lai nhung file tren window sau khi cai ubuntu
[13:20] <lewtds_> cài đè?
[13:21] <vubuntor727> toi chon replace window
[13:24] <lewtds> vậy thì mất hết rồi
[13:25] <NEETCrab> amen
[13:26] <NEETCrab> hallelujah
[13:26] <vubuntor727> oh, thanks ban nhe
[13:27] <vubuntor727> :'(
[13:27] <NEETCrab> :3
[13:29] <lewtds> lần sau nhớ backup : D
[13:38] <vubuntor727> chac chan vay roi, bao nhieu la du lieu quan trong
[13:38] <vubuntor727> gio minh dang tim cach de khoi phuc lai
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2015-04-01-#juju-dev
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[00:06] <redelmann_> thumper, https://bugs.launchpad.net/juju-core/+bug/1438951
[00:06] <mup> Bug #1438951: destroy-enviroment --force destroy all aws instances <juju-core:New> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1438951>
[00:07] <redelmann_> thumper, y cant give more info about this, and i cant test it again in current aws
[00:07] <thumper> redelmann_: thanks
[00:11] <ericsnow> wallyworld_: regarding IsLocal, the key thing is that we are checking if the init system corresponding to the package is the one running on the *local* host
[00:12] <wallyworld_> IsLocal() doesn't imply that
[00:12] <ericsnow> wallyworld_: in code it won't be "IsLocal()", it will be "systemd.IsLocal()", etc.
[00:12] <ericsnow> wallyworld_: k
[00:12] <wallyworld_> hmmm
[00:12] <wallyworld_> IsUsed() perhaps
[00:12] <wallyworld_> systemd.IsUsed()
[00:13] <wallyworld_> wadda ya reckon?
[00:13] <ericsnow> wallyworld_: IsCurrentlyTheOneRunningOnTheLocalHost? :)
[00:14] <wallyworld_> always one smarty pants
[00:14] <wallyworld_> systemd.IsRunning()
[00:14] <wallyworld_> what happens if both files are there though?
[00:14] <ericsnow> wallyworld_: IsRunning is good
[00:14] <wallyworld_> can a host have both binaries installed?
[00:14] <ericsnow> wallyworld_: the Ubuntu guys promised me that that will *never* be a problem
[00:15] <ericsnow> :)
[00:15] <wallyworld_> promises, yeah right
[00:16] <ericsnow> wallyworld_: how about IsRunningLocally? too long? I was hoping that it would be super clear that we're only checking the local host
[00:16] <ericsnow> wallyworld_: BTW, thanks for the review :)
[00:16] <wallyworld_> how is IsRunning() not implying that?
[00:17] <wallyworld_> sure :-)
[00:17] <wallyworld_> wouldn't it be assumed that it pertains to the host on which it is run?
[00:17] <ericsnow> wallyworld_: yeah, you're right; the lack of args limits the possible interpretations :)
[00:21] <wallyworld_> ericsnow: i started reviewing the other one. i don't understand why ioutil.TempFIle is not used
[00:21] <wallyworld_> wasn't the issue that we were using /tmp/somestaticfilename
[00:22] <wallyworld_> so /tmp/somerandomfilename would be fine
[00:22] <ericsnow> wallyworld_: right
[00:22] <ericsnow> wallyworld_: but I want to be consistent between the shell script and the Go code
[00:22] <wallyworld_> what do you mean?
[00:23] <ericsnow> wallyworld_: the patch fixes both the discovery script (written in bash for remote use) and the Go code that does the same thing
[00:24] <wallyworld_> both can still use a random tmp dir
[00:25] <ericsnow> wallyworld_: I looked at using mktemp on the shell side to do that, but doing it made the code (not insignificantly) more complicated
[00:26] <wallyworld_> hmmm
[00:26] <ericsnow> wallyworld_: using a subdirectory of the juju data dir helped it stay simple (er)
[00:27] <wallyworld_> i'm not across the implementation, why is using mktemp in the shell script hard?
[00:29] <ericsnow> wallyworld_: because subsequent commands must be written in relation to where that script gets written
[00:30] <wallyworld_> what generates the shell script? juju? why can't the dir be a script arg?
[00:31] <ericsnow> wallyworld_: juju does (it's all in service/discover.go + service.go)
[00:35] <mup> Bug #1438951 was opened: destroy-enviroment --force destroy all aws instances <juju-core:New> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1438951>
[00:36] <ericsnow> yikes, mup!
[00:37] <wallyworld_> ericsnow: so, i'm missing something maybe. in ListServicesScript(), we have const filename = "/tmp/discover_init_system.sh, and that is passed to the script generation commands. why not just generate a random file and pass that
[00:40] <ericsnow> wallyworld_: so just generate a random filename under /tmp and use that on the remote host?
[00:40] <wallyworld_> oh you are generating the scripts locally and then running remotely
[00:41] <ericsnow> wallyworld_: correct
[00:42] <ericsnow> wallyworld_: currently all for the sake of manual provider :) though I have considered using some of this for the cloudinit script
[00:42] <wallyworld_> can init_system=$(blah) run the script inline then?
[00:42] <wallyworld_> rather than from a filename
[00:42] <wallyworld_> then the problem goes away
[00:43] <ericsnow> wallyworld_: perhaps
[00:44] <wallyworld_> this is a one off bit of bash I think?, so no need to write it out i don't think
[00:44] <ericsnow> wallyworld_: originally that is effectively what I was doing, but I had to add more complicated logic to the script, I switched to writing the script out to a separate file
[00:45] <wallyworld_> bash doesn't care about how complicated it is when it runs it
[00:45] <ericsnow> wallyworld_: having a separate script certainly requires much less knowledge of bash :)
[00:45] <ericsnow> wallyworld_: it's more for my and our sakes than for bash's :)
[00:46] <ericsnow> wallyworld_: biab
[00:46] <wallyworld_> ok
[01:00] <ericsnow> wallyworld_: back
[01:01] <ericsnow> wallyworld_: did I mention that bash is the devil?
[01:01] <wallyworld_> yeah
[01:01] <wallyworld_> i like tcsh
[01:02] <ericsnow> wallyworld_: hey, isn't Python system-installed everywhere nowadays...
[01:02] <wallyworld_> so ioutil.TempFile is nice and portable, and simple to use, none of this data dr and series stuff andeep juju's dir clean
[01:02] <wallyworld_> can't count on it maybe? not sure?
[01:04] <wallyworld_> the script is only 20 lines or so, so surely it can be run inlien and all this just goes away
[01:04] <ericsnow> wallyworld_: I'll work up a different approach in that patch
[01:05] <wallyworld_> ok, sorry to be a party pooper, it's just my opinion, maybe a different reviewer would feel differently
[01:05] <ericsnow> wallyworld_: after that other patch you reviewed the script gets a lot shorter and simpler
[01:05] <wallyworld_> yeah
[01:05] <ericsnow> wallyworld_: I'll get that landed and see where things are at
[01:05] <wallyworld_> i was having a big problem with the various g=hacks also
[01:05] <ericsnow> wallyworld_: and hey, I appreciate you taking a stand :)
[01:05] <wallyworld_> and this will remove those
[01:59] <axw> wallyworld_: just gave you a shipit
[02:00] <wallyworld_> axw: awesome, ty
[02:16] <ericsnow> wallyworld_: I think you'll like this better: http://reviews.vapour.ws/r/1351/
[02:16] <wallyworld_> ok
[02:20] <wallyworld_> ericsnow: yay, looks much better
[02:20] <wallyworld_> it works?
[02:20] <ericsnow> wallyworld_: thanks for sticking to your guns :) I like it better too
[02:20] <ericsnow> wallyworld_: yep
[02:20] <wallyworld_> \o/
[02:20] <ericsnow> wallyworld_: there's a unit test that checks
[02:20] <wallyworld_> yeah, much cleaner
[02:26] <ericsnow> wallyworld_: thanks for those reviews
[02:27] <wallyworld_> np :-)
[02:28] <ericsnow> wallyworld_: I'll land those for 1.23 now-ish and then vanish into the night
[02:28] <wallyworld_> sure
[02:28] <wallyworld_> i'll re-merge if there's a spurious failure
[02:28] <wallyworld_> ty
[03:30] <thumper> wallyworld_: got a few minutes?
[03:30] <thumper> wallyworld_: I need an insanity check
[03:31] <wallyworld_> ok, give me 2 mins
[03:31] <thumper> kk
[04:34] <wallyworld_> axw: would be awesome if you got to look at this sometime if you are free http://reviews.vapour.ws/r/1354/
[04:35] <axw> wallyworld_: sure, will look in a little while
[04:35] <wallyworld_> np ty, i have to duck out for an hour or so anyway
[04:35] <wallyworld_> soon
[05:11] <jog> wallyworld_, still around?
[05:49] <jam> wallyworld_: ping
[06:10] <axw> wallyworld_: I'll have to read the spec before I can review, so probably won't get to it until I'm OCR tomorrow sorry
[06:37] * dimitern steps out - back in a few hours
[07:29] <wallyworld_> jam: hi, i was out, about to have dinner, can i ping you soon?
[07:30] <jam> wallyworld_: np
[07:30] <jam> I was just checking if there was anything you want me to bring up to Mark.
[07:31] <jam> I know you had the Storage "hints" vs "properties"
[07:31] <jam> wallyworld_: but any other information about things you want clarity on for Storage or Health, I'm on the call with him now
[07:45] <TheMue> morning o/
[07:46] <TheMue> dimitern: I'll be working in an interrupted way today. coordinating cleaning of the ground, expecting the reviewer, calling the garage to pick the car etc
[07:46] <voidspace> TheMue: sorry about your car!
[07:46] <voidspace> dimitern: I've made those tweaks
[07:47] <voidspace> dimitern: I'll land the branch so I can fix the issue with upgrading and then forward port the fix to trunk
[07:48] <TheMue> dimitern: regarding the fix imho our tests showed that it isn't the primary interface. so now I'll focus on the empty interfaces, because they are the only difference returned from the lshw parsing function
[07:49] <TheMue> dimitern: so I'll compare the values and follow their usage bottom-up to see, how they influence the further process
[07:50] <TheMue> voidspace: thanks, yes. thankfully first feedback is, that it likely is full covered
[07:50] <voidspace> TheMue: *phew*, what a hassle :-/
[07:51] <wallyworld_> jam: with "juju status-history <unit>", I was going to default to say 10 recent status changes with an option -n arg. Also you would see agent and workload status interleaved
[07:51] <TheMue> voidspace: now it's "only" all that organizational stuff as well as looking/waiting for a new one
[07:51] <jam> wallyworld_: mark likes "hints"
[07:51] <wallyworld_> ok
[07:52] <wallyworld_> jam: with the legacy agent state, I added Stopped (so now we have Pending, Error, Started and Stopped
[07:52] <wallyworld_> jam: the status interleaving is so you could see that an agent ran X hook, which caused the unit to report Y status
[07:54] <wallyworld_> jam: we also firmly believe that when a hook fails, it should be the agent that is in error, not the workload (as the workload is most very likely still fine). Nonetheless, I followed the spec and we can discuss again if users complain
[08:16] * dimitern is back
[08:17] <dimitern> TheMue, voidspace, thanks guys, sounds good - keep me posted :)
[08:18] <voidspace> dimitern: fix for upgrade on 1.23 nearly ready for review - just pushing it now
[08:19] <dimitern> voidspace, awesome!
[08:28] <jam> wallyworld_: "juju status-history" sounds good to me, can you put it into the doc as you've developed it?
[08:28] <wallyworld_> jam: haven't put fingers to keyboard yet; that's how i propose to do it, will update doc
[08:28] <jam> wallyworld_: for the workload, we're certainly in a situation where "we have no idea what is going on" once we're in an error state. So there are at least questions about what is the smallest lie
[08:29] <wallyworld_> jam: agreed to an extent. we can see how it unfolds once in the hands of users. william has very strong views
[08:32] <dimitern> voidspace, I assume your latest PR includes both the worker and the fix?
[08:37] <voidspace> dimitern: ah yes
[08:37] <voidspace> dimitern: yeah, to fix on 1.23 I needed to base it off the release-address branch which has the worker
[08:37] <voidspace> dimitern: once that branch lands the diff will be smaller...
[08:37] <dimitern> voidspace, right, got it
[08:38] <dimitern> voidspace, reviewed
[08:39] <voidspace> dimitern: thanks
[08:39] <voidspace> dimitern: they're good comments - except for the very last one
[08:39] <dimitern> voidspace, oh yeah? :)
[08:40] <voidspace> dimitern: what do you mean by an extra test for a removed machine?
[08:40] <voidspace> dimitern: we have a test for a machine that doesn't exist
[08:40] <voidspace> dimitern: what's the difference between that and a removed machine?
[08:40] <dimitern> voidspace, no, that's fine then
[08:40] <dimitern> voidspace, I must've missed it
[08:40] <voidspace> dimitern: the SetUp code that creates dead addresses allocates them to a non-existent machine
[08:41] <dimitern> voidspace, right, all good then :)
[08:41] <voidspace> which simulates the situation we're guarding against
[08:41] <voidspace> I'll fix the other issues you pointed out, thanks
[08:41] <dimitern> voidspace, cheers
[08:41] <dimitern> dooferlad, hey
[08:41] <dooferlad> dimitern: hi
[08:42] <dimitern> dooferlad, I've realized while reviewing your update command that some bits of the spec are contradictory
[08:42] <dooferlad> dimitern: ah
[08:42] <dimitern> dooferlad, we shouldn't allow a space with no subnets
[08:42] <dimitern> dooferlad, and create has to be changed slightly to accept at least one subnet
[08:43] <dooferlad> dimitern: I was pondering this yesterday, but after reading the spaces and subnets sections of the spec several times it seemed that just implementing what it said was the way to go for now.
[08:43] <dimitern> dooferlad, that's due to the way I plan to implement spaces on AWS at least - using tags on subnets
[08:44] <dooferlad> dimitern: I agree that a space without subnets doesn't make any sense
[08:44] <voidspace> dimitern: logger.Debugf("requested ReleaseAddress of address %q for unknown instance, ignoring", addr.Value)
[08:44] <dimitern> dooferlad, I agree - with nothing better to go with :) sure
[08:44] <voidspace> dimitern: will change to (ignoring) - I think that's your preferred style
[08:45] <dimitern> voidspace, I'd go with "release address for an unknown instance ID is a no-op, ignoring" ?
[08:45] <dimitern> voidspace, or (ignoring) at the end - both are fine
[08:46] <voidspace> dimitern: and not log the actual address?
[08:46] <dimitern> voidspace, ah, good point - please do :)
[08:47] <dimitern> release address %q ...
[08:47] <voidspace> done
[09:01] <dimitern> TheMue, voidspace, standup?
[09:04] <voidspace> dimitern: oops, omw
[09:17] <voidspace> dimitern: the forward port to trunk: http://reviews.vapour.ws/r/1358/diff/#
[09:19] <dimitern> voidspace, LGTM
[09:59] <natefinch> dimitern: saw your review on my WIP branch for ensure-availability converting machines... after looking at the code, I think I understand the problems with the API stuff, but want to make sure I'm going down the right path.
[10:00] <dimitern> natefinch, great, do you think we need to have a chat or?
[10:01] <dimitern> natefinch, I'm glad to help if you have things to ask as well
[10:01] <natefinch> dimitern: yeah, but I have a lightly sleeping baby next to me, so it'll need to be text. :)
[10:01] <dimitern> natefinch, sure :)
[10:02] <natefinch> dimitern: So, I presume I should be using UnitsWatcher to watch a machine, instead of rolling my own, correct?
[10:02] <natefinch> dimitern: wayne wrote the watcher code for this, and I think didn't realize UnitsWatcher was also for watching machines (it took me a while to figure that out too... actually just got lucky seeing a comment about how it also worked for machines)
[10:03] <dimitern> natefinch, hmm UnitsWatcher IIRC reports changes to a service's units
[10:04] <dimitern> natefinch, i might be missing some context
[10:04] <natefinch> dimitern: it seems to work on machines and services in practice, plus the code just takes a tag
[10:04] * dimitern revisits the PR
[10:05] <natefinch> dimitern: you were pretty vague about what was wron with the code, so maybe you should start by explaining what you meant: http://reviews.vapour.ws/r/1299/
[10:05] <natefinch> :)
[10:06] <dimitern> natefinch, right, sorry - I tried to explain 3 times, but each time my connection dropped or something else was wrong, so I lost 3 separate summaries (growing shorter with frustration)
[10:06] <natefinch> ha, I know how it is.
[10:06] <dimitern> natefinch, yeah, so let me have another look now and will explain
[10:07] <natefinch> dimitern: thanks
[10:07] <natefinch> dimitern: I think I have an idea, after looking at the other API endpoints, but want to make sure I'm on the right track.
[10:08] <dimitern> natefinch, ok, so one thing is definitely about using the error result for "fatal" errors, while using the Error field of the result structs for per-tag issues (e.g. failed to start watching machine X's units)
[10:08] <dimitern> natefinch, that's in the client-side api methods
[10:09] <dimitern> natefinch, and checking that if you asked for 1 tag you got 1 result and there wasn't an error in the result's Error field
[10:09] <dimitern> natefinch, this applies to both client methods
[10:11] <natefinch> dimitern: ok, yeah, trhat's what I was thinking
[10:11] <dimitern> natefinch, on the server-side, it seems you are taking a bunch of args (tags), but in some cases returning on error with one of them (e.g. ParseMachineTag failed), rather than continuing
[10:11] <mattyw> dimitern, ping when you have a moment
[10:11] <dimitern> mattyw, sure, in a little bit
[10:11] <mattyw> dimitern, sure, I'll ping you some stuff for you to take a look at at your convenience if that's ok?
[10:11] <dimitern> mattyw, no worries
[10:12] <dimitern> natefinch, also server-side - it's more common to have a getAuthFunc which returns an AuthFunc(tag) and checks permissions, rather than using the authorizer directly
[10:13] <dimitern> natefinch, the JobsResult struct should have a Error field like other result structs
[10:14] <natefinch> dimitern: yep, ok. This is all exactly what I just fixed up yesterday afternoon... I had hoped that's what you meant. Of course now that I've fixed it all, it doesn't work anymore, but I'm sure there's just a dumb bug somewhere :)
[10:15] <dimitern> natefinch, finally, please use names.MachineTag rather than string client-side; the rest are trivial formatting things
[10:15] <natefinch> dimitern: yep, cool.
[10:15] <dimitern> natefinch, oh, too bad - have you found out why it doesn't work?
[10:17] <natefinch> dimitern: not yet, need to put in some logging to see... the handler fires, so that much is working, maybe I mucked up the code that returns the jobs
[10:18] <dimitern> natefinch, I see, well ping me if I can help with something else
[10:18] <natefinch> dimitern: thanks
[10:25] <TheMue> dimitern: you yesterday wanted to take a look into the cloud-init.log. I still cannot reach it on a failing node, but I'm now on a working one and try to find aspects that are matching to the information generated based on the lshw results
[10:26] <TheMue> dimitern: do you had something special in mind to look at or only wanted to find some kind of errors or strange looking messages?
[10:26] <dimitern> TheMue, well, it's hard to understand what's going on without being familiar with cloud-init source - there's a lot of stuff in that log
[10:26] * TheMue btw should create another vmaas environment for overlapping tests :/
[10:27] <TheMue> dimitern: it is, indeed
[10:27] <dimitern> TheMue, more useful usually is cloud-init-output.log
[10:27] <TheMue> dimitern: ah, thx for that hint, will switch
[10:27] <dimitern> TheMue, there could be some errors or warnings in cloud-init.log, but most of them are ok - unless it says something serious (e.g. "cannot start" or "failed ..")
[10:28] <TheMue> dimitern: ok
[10:29] <TheMue> dimitern: I'm currently adding debugs all the call stack upwards to see how the data influences the processing
[10:29] <dimitern> TheMue, +1
[10:30] <TheMue> dimitern: sometimes I wish my old smalltalk back, breaking the execution with live editing of the code and manipulation of the data
[10:31] <dimitern> TheMue, or even a proper debugger with breakpoints and patching the code on the fly? :)
[10:34] <TheMue> dimitern: so far no debugger for static languages I've seen during my travel through programming languages had the same simplicity and power of a Smalltalk environment
[10:37] <dimitern> TheMue, I haven't used it, but I believe you :)
[10:38] <TheMue> dimitern: it's a wonderful language as well as environment (everything is in one so called image). but sadly it doesn't scale on multicore, everything is single-process :(
[10:39] <dimitern> TheMue, I see - well, multicore CPUs where not that common at the time I guess
[10:43] <TheMue> dimitern: exactly, but multicore isn't so young anymore too, so one could at least have added this as a feature to the VM and then the according code. maybe I should port it to the Erlang VM, like LFE is doing it for LISP :D
[10:43] <dimitern> :)
[10:44] <TheMue> but then I would need a time compressor before, putting 48h into a day
[10:51] <tasdomas> I'm seeing test failures like this when I run tests in juju master:
[10:51] <tasdomas> http://paste.ubuntu.com/10717600/
[10:51] <tasdomas> the weird part is that I'm getting these with go1.4, go1.3 and go1.2.2
[10:52] <tasdomas> they seem to be an ordering issue
[10:52] <tasdomas> but as far as I can tell, nobody can reproduce them
[10:52] <tasdomas> could I have messed something up in my environment?
[10:55] <natefinch> first off, only use 1.2.2 .. we don't officially support newer versions (and I know there's a problem at least with 1.4)
[10:55] <mup> Bug #1439112 was opened: cmd/juju DeploySuite.TestUpgradeCharmDir fails on windows <test-failure> <windows> <juju-core:Triaged> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1439112>
[10:55] <dimitern> tasdomas, is than on master?
[10:56] <tasdomas> dimitern, yes
[10:56] <tasdomas> dimitern, I've been able to reproduce that with a clean checkout of juju (go get github.com/juju/juju) in an empty GOPATH
[10:56] <dimitern> tasdomas, and is it random or you can repro it reliably?
[10:57] <tasdomas> dimitern, can reproduce it every single time
[10:58] <dimitern> tasdomas, ok, that's good - we had reports about those tests but they were unreliably reproducible
[10:59] <dimitern> tasdomas, it's not an ordering issue as there are not maps involved there at all, something else is wrong
[11:00] <natefinch> dimitern: it could still be an ordering issue :)
[11:00] <tasdomas> dimitern, well, if I can help with solving this let me know
[11:00] <natefinch> dimitern: it's a slice :)
[11:00] <dimitern> natefinch, with slices?
[11:00] <dimitern> natefinch, :) ah, right
[11:02] <dimitern> tasdomas, can you replace that gc.DeepEquals with jc.DeepEquals, run the tests a few times and paste the result please?
[11:03] <tasdomas> dimitern, sure
[11:05] <tasdomas> dimitern, still a failure
[11:05] <tasdomas> http://paste.ubuntu.com/10717644/
[11:06] <dimitern> tasdomas, ok, thanks - just to scratch off the easy solution - try one more time with jc.SameContents instead of jc.DeepEquals?
[11:07] <tasdomas> dimitern, sure
[11:07] <natefinch> I think the lists are just different
[11:08] <dimitern> natefinch, they are the same length, so ISTM the order is the only issue
[11:09] <dimitern> tasdomas, could it be you're using a more recent mongodb?
[11:10] <tasdomas> dimitern, 2.6.3
[11:10] <tasdomas> dimitern, SameContents panics
[11:11] <dimitern> tasdomas, hmm I thought it could be mongo related; oh - is the panic about the map field ExtraConfig?
[11:11] <tasdomas> dimitern, not as far as I can tell: ➜ juju (git)-[master]-% go test github.com/juju/juju/api/networker
[11:11] <tasdomas> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
[11:11] <tasdomas> PANIC: networker_test.go:204: networkerSuite.TestMachineNetworkConfig
[11:11] <tasdomas> [LOG] 0:00.011 DEBUG juju.environs.configstore Made dir /tmp/check-8674665223082153551/2/home/ubuntu/.juju/environments
[11:11] <tasdomas> [LOG] 0:00.099 DEBUG juju.environs.configstore writing jenv file
[11:11] <tasdomas> [LOG] 0:00.099 DEBUG juju.environs.configstore writing jenv file to /tmp/check-8674665223082153551/2/home/ubuntu/.juju/environments/dummyenv.jenv
[11:11] <tasdomas> [LOG] 0:00.099 DEBUG juju.environs.tools reading v1.* tools
[11:11] <tasdomas> [LOG] 0:00.099 INFO juju.environs.testing uploading FAKE tools 1.24-alpha1-trusty-amd64
[11:11] <tasdomas> [LOG] 0:00.101 INFO juju.environs.testing uploading FAKE tools 1.24-alpha1-precise-amd64
[11:11] <tasdomas> [LOG] 0:00.101 INFO juju.environs.testing uploading FAKE tools 1.24-alpha1-utopic-amd64
[11:11] <tasdomas> [LOG] 0:00.102 DEBUG juju.environs.tools no architecture specified when finding tools, looking for any
[11:12] <tasdomas> [LOG] 0:00.102 DEBUG juju.environs.tools no series specified when finding tools, looking for any
[11:12] <tasdomas> [LOG] 0:00.103 DEBUG juju.environs.simplestreams searching for metadata in datasource "existing metadata"
[11:12] <tasdomas> [LOG] 0:00.103 DEBUG juju.environs.simplestreams fetchData failed for "file:///tmp/check-8674665223082153551/5/tools/streams/v1/index2.sjson": stat /tmp/check-8674665223082153551/5/tools/streams/v1/index2.sjson: no such file or directory
[11:12] <tasdomas> [LOG] 0:00.103 DEBUG juju.environs.simplestreams streams/v1/index2.sjson not found, trying legacy index file
[11:12] <tasdomas> [LOG] 0:00.103 DEBUG juju.environs.simplestreams fetchData failed for "file:///tmp/check-8674665223082153551/5/tools/streams/v1/index.sjson": stat /tmp/check-8674665223082153551/5/tools/streams/v1/index.sjson: no such file or directory
[11:12] <tasdomas> [LOG] 0:00.103 DEBUG juju.environs.simplestreams cannot load index "file:///tmp/check-8674665223082153551/5/tools/streams/v1/index.sjson": invalid URL "file:///tmp/check-8674665223082153551/5/tools/streams/v1/index.sjson" not found
[11:12] <tasdomas> [LOG] 0:00.103 DEBUG ju
[11:12] <tasdomas> dimitern, sorry - wrong buffer
[11:12] <tasdomas> http://paste.ubuntu.com/10717662/
[11:13] <dimitern> tasdomas, right - yeah it's not obvious, but it is because the map field makes the struct unhashable
[11:14] <dimitern> tasdomas, ok, so I think we should definitely file a bug about this and tackle it at some point, but because it only happens with a more recent mongod, it's not a serious issue (I mean of the "fix asap" kind)
[11:14] <tasdomas> dimitern, understood
[11:14] <tasdomas> dimitern, I'll file the bug
[11:15] <tasdomas> dimitern, what version of mongo is preferrable ?
[11:15] <dimitern> tasdomas, great, thanks for your help
[11:15] <dimitern> tasdomas, the one we're using is 2.4.9 from trusty
[11:15] <dimitern> tasdomas, there are a few known issues with 2.6
[11:16] <dimitern> (more juju incompatibilities than mongo issues)
[11:42] <dimitern> dooferlad, I've updated the network spec to clarify a few bits around managing spaces, including the changes we discussed around update (added rename as a separate command)
[11:49] <jam> wallyworld: are you still around?
[11:50] <wallyworld> yeah
[11:52] <jam> wallyworld: well, I'm half tempted to just say "go to bed" :)
[11:52] <jam> wallyworld: but the other half of me has a question about the simplestreams tuff
[11:52] <jam> stuff
[11:53] <jam> wallyworld: specifically, in environs/simplestreams/simplestreams.go GetProductsPath
[11:53] <jam> we filter by datatype
[11:53] <jam> and then we return "errors.NotFoundF" if there are no entries that have the same DataType
[11:53] <jam> we alsor return NotFoundf if the cloud spec doesn't match
[11:54] <jam> but we return NoMatchingProductsError
[11:54] <jam> for the other circumstances
[11:54] <jam> (if the only thing that doesn't match is ProductId)
[11:54] <wallyworld> jam: ?
[11:55] <jam> wallyworld: so I'm curious why finding an index file but not finding cloudspec or datatype is considered NotFound
[11:55] <jam> but finding one that just doesn't have the product is considered NoMatchingProducts
[11:55] <jam> *specifically* because we special case NotFound in how we log errors
[11:56] <wallyworld> no particular reason, except maybe bad implementation. maybe we should have used NoMatchingClouds and NoMatchingDataTypes errors
[11:57] <wallyworld> we could or should fix it i guess
[11:57] <jam> wallyworld: well if we get noMatchingProductsError, then we do something weird and log it, but then fall through
[11:57] <jam> so you still get an items list instead of nil
[11:58] <wallyworld> from memory, that could be because the products might still be found in a different products file
[11:58] <wallyworld> but i'd have to look at the code, it's been a while
[11:58] <jam> wallyworld: sure, I have the feeling things have evolved, because the next higher loop keeps searching on any error
[11:59] <wallyworld> the implementation has grown organically to match what's served by cloudimages
[11:59] <wallyworld> it needs to be looked at fresh and a proper V2 refactoring done
[12:00] <wallyworld> mirrors were also add after V
[12:00] <wallyworld> 1
[12:00] <wallyworld> so it got very messy
[12:00] <jam> sure
[12:01] <wallyworld> i do wish it were rewritten
[12:07] <jam> wallyworld: http://reviews.vapour.ws/r/1362/
[12:09] <wallyworld> looking
[12:12] <wallyworld> jam: \o/
[13:06] <tasdomas> dimitern, ping?
[13:09] <dimitern> tasdomas, pong
[13:09] <tasdomas> dimitern, a uniter API question, if I may
[13:10] <dimitern> tasdomas, sure
[13:10] <tasdomas> dimitern, so the uniter uses only the uniter API client, I need to modify the way metrics are added to state (from the unit)
[13:11] <tasdomas> should I override the existing method in the uniter API (and APIserver) or should I introduce a different facade?
[13:11] <tasdomas> s/different/new
[13:11] <dimitern> tasdomas, it depends on how compatible the api changes is - if it's adding a new method or adding args to an existing one, it's fine to do it directly in the current uniter api facade
[13:12] <tasdomas> dimitern, what if it's changing the params of an existing one?
[13:12] <dimitern> tasdomas, if it changes behavior or removes args/methods in a backward-incompatible way - a new facade version of the uniter api is needed
[13:12] <tasdomas> dimitern, got it - thank you
[13:13] <dimitern> tasdomas, np - it will help to have a look at the change, when ready
[13:14] <tasdomas> dimitern, it's related to api/metricstorage (and apiserver/metricstorage) - I introduced this as a new facade, but now see the error of my ways and will move the functionality to the uniter api client
[13:15] <dimitern> tasdomas, ok, ISTM it will be fine to add the new methods to the existing uniter api facade (v1 IIRC)
[13:16] <dimitern> tasdomas, however, keep in mind when implementing the client-side methods that the apiserver might be older and can return CodeNotImplemented error for the new methods
[13:19] <tasdomas> dimitern, thanks
[13:20] <tasdomas> dimitern, now I remember why I added this as a new facade - fwereade suggested I do this to avoid incrementing the version of the uniter facade (which is largish) due to this small change
[13:22] <dimitern> tasdomas, I see, there's no need to increment the version if only new (and not critical) methods are added (i.e. if the client code is prepared to handle gracefully the case when the new methods are missing)
[13:31] * dimitern steps out for a bit
[14:01] <mup> Bug #1439204 was opened: environs/tools does not cleanup in the right order <test-failure> <windows> <juju-core:Triaged> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1439204>
[14:25] * dimitern is back
[14:28] <rogpeppe> dimitern: what's the current standard way of creating a juju review request?
[14:29] <jam> katco: fairly trivial review: http://reviews.vapour.ws/r/1363/diff/#
[14:29] <katco> jam: k i'll take a look
[14:29] <dimitern> rogpeppe, just propose a branch against one of the branches in juju/juju - a RB diff should be created automatically
[14:29] <jam> rogpeppe: generally propose a github merge
[14:29] <rogpeppe> dimitern: ah, i'll just make a PR then, thanks
[14:30] <jam> rogpeppe: rb notices and then updates reviews.vapour.ws and updates github with a link to it.
[14:30] <katco> jam: wow you weren't kidding :)
[14:30] <rogpeppe> jam: it would be nice if the README had contribution guidelines, i guess
[14:30] <katco> jam: +1
[14:30] <jam> rogpeppe: probably needs to be updated, I agree.
[14:30] <jam> I thought we had CONTRIBUTING
[14:31] <natefinch> we do... the code review section is kind of a wall of text, though
[14:32] <natefinch> and links to https://github.com/juju/juju/blob/master/doc/contributions/reviewboard.md
[14:32] <natefinch> which has more specifics
[14:33] <rogpeppe> jam: thanks - i hadn't seen that
[14:33] <rogpeppe> jam: the README should probably link to it
[14:35] <rogpeppe> jam: this particular PR is interesting from the p.o.v. of the recent discussion on juju-dev
[14:36] <rogpeppe> jam: as it uses an external type in the API serialisation
[14:36] <rogpeppe> jam: i'm not convinced that it's wrong here though
[14:36] <rogpeppe> jam: i'd be interested in your thoughts
[14:37] * katco does happy dance
[14:37] <katco> i'm feeling good today :)
[14:38] * rogpeppe is pleased for katco
[14:38] <jam> rogpeppe: I'd say I generally prefer being more explicit on API stuff because it is far too easy to stay compatible with yourself and break everyone else in the world
[14:38] <katco> rogpeppe: i've had a sinus infection for the past few weeks. haven't been able to do much of anything =/
[14:39] <rogpeppe> katco: ew
[14:39] <rogpeppe> katco: i also had a horrible flu thing last week, still feeling pretty knacked
[14:39] <katco> rogpeppe: seems everyone's been sick
[14:39] <rogpeppe> katco: yeah
[14:39] <katco> rogpeppe: and we'll bring it all to nuremberg! :)
[14:39] <rogpeppe> katco: i hadn't had something like this in decades
[14:39] <rogpeppe> katco: joy!
[14:40] <rogpeppe> katco: sinus thing sounds 'orrible
[14:40] <katco> rogpeppe: yeah it's been a few years since i've been knocked on my butt like this
[14:40] <katco> rogpeppe: i suppose it's a good reminder to appreciate the good times :)
[14:40] <rogpeppe> katco: well, continue to take it easy! yeah.
[14:40] <katco> rogpeppe: you too sir! see you in nuremberg i hope
[14:40] <rogpeppe> katco: deffo
[14:41] <rogpeppe> jam: the issue in this particular case is that we want to transfer a macaroon over the wire, and the macaroon wire format is well defined, and implemented inside the macaroon package
[14:42] <rogpeppe> jam: there's actually no easy way to use a different format except by dependending on precisely the format we're trying to avoid depending on
[14:42] <jam> rogpeppe: isn't a serialized macaroon just a series of lines with a final hash?
[14:42] <rogpeppe> jam: no
[14:43] <rogpeppe> jam: and even if it was, i wouldn't want to duplicate all the (very well tested) serialisation code that's in the macaroon package
[14:43] <jam> rogpeppe: so I'm saying that the API can be "you get a string" which you then parse as a macaroon. not "you get a Macaroon object"
[14:44] <rogpeppe> jam: how is that any better?
[14:44] <jam> rogpeppe: fwiw I was confusing M.serialize() with M.inspect(). The latter being the line-by-line with a final sig
[14:44] <rogpeppe> jam: there's a JSON serialisation format too
[14:45] <rogpeppe> jam: (which is what we use in all the other APIs where we're using macaroons)
[14:47] <jam> rogpeppe: interestingly JSON serialization isn't supported by the android lib
[14:47] <rogpeppe> jam: which android lib?
[14:48] <jam> rogpeppe: https://android-arsenal.com/details/1/914
[14:48] <jam> rogpeppe: I was searching for "macaroon JSON serialization" and one of the first hits was "JSON not supported" :)
[14:48] <rogpeppe> jam: i'm not that surprised. the libmacaroons guy doesn't like the JSON serialisation much, although i took the format from his code.
[14:48] <jam> rogpeppe: so for something like this where there is an official format, it does feel like you should use it. It is different when it is one of *our* formats
[14:49] <jam> rogpeppe: the short text from google references you
[14:49] <jam> Merge branch '002-fix-json-serialization' of https://github.com/rogpe
[14:50] <rogpeppe> jam: yeah, i fixed libmacaroons so it actually worked
[14:51] <jam> rogpeppe: so is http://godoc.org/gopkg.in/macaroon.v1 just a wrapper around lib or you were just looking at interop ?
[14:51] <rogpeppe> jam: i was just looking at interop
[14:51] <rogpeppe> jam: (i wrote it independently to start with, but then converged the serialisation formats)
[14:54] <rogpeppe> jam, dimitern, katco, anyone else: anyway, a review would be appreciated if you have a few moments to look at it: http://reviews.vapour.ws/r/1364/diff/#
[14:54] <natefinch> the macaroon stuff is versioned with gopkg.in, right? So in theory, it should never break compatibility unless juju updates to including a new version
[14:54] <ericsnow> fwereade: ping
[14:54] <jam> natefinch: there is code compat, and there is wire-protocol compat
[14:54] <jam> technically gopkg.in is only code compat I thought
[14:55] <katco> rogpeppe: i'll get to it in a few, working down the queue (but i'll skip to yours next)
[14:55] <natefinch> jam: I would hope that would be part of the contract
[14:55] <rogpeppe> katco: ta!
[14:55] <jam> certainly that was the discussion from something else, though the thought was that code compat would iterate faster than wire compat
[14:56] <natefinch> jam: I could see how v1 and v2 could share wire compatibility... but I can't see how v1 and v1.1 could not... at least, I think most people would assume they'd have compatible wire formats
[14:57] <jam> rogpeppe: so one problem with your proposal is that you are changing what is supported by the API without changing the version numbers. So new juju clients can't tell that the server doesn't support it, right?
[14:57] <jam> rogpeppe: you really do need a version bump
[14:58] <dimitern> rogpeppe, why macaroon-bakery.v0 and not v1? I thought v0 was only used as a fallback when no versions exist
[14:58] <jam> so that juju 1.25 can say "oh,I'm talking to Client v0, which doesn't support macaroon based conversations"
[14:58] <rogpeppe> jam: that seems right
[14:58] <rogpeppe> jam: where do i bump the version?
[14:58] <katco> rogpeppe: jam: natefinch: http://semver.org/
[14:58] <rogpeppe> dimitern: because we haven't decided that the bakery API is stable yet
[14:59] <rogpeppe> dimitern: i think it's getting close though
[14:59] <dimitern> rogpeppe, so imports will use v1 for the release of 1.23 then?
[14:59] <rogpeppe> dimitern: there is no v1 yet
[14:59] <rogpeppe> dimitern: i have one moderately big change in the pipeline and then we might consider bumping to v1
[15:00] <dimitern> rogpeppe, please do, as releasing juju depending on unstable imports is a no-no
[15:00] <dimitern> rogpeppe, apart from that LGTM I think
[15:01] <rogpeppe> dimitern: most of juju's imports are unstable...
[15:01] <dimitern> rogpeppe, none of the versioned ones are, except charm.v5-unstable, but we agreed to bump that to v5 before the release
[15:02] <rogpeppe> dimitern: most of juju's imports aren't versioned
[15:02] <dimitern> rogpeppe, I believe you got my point, come on :)
[15:02] <rogpeppe> dimitern: not really
[15:03] <rogpeppe> dimitern: i don't see there's a difference between an unversioned import and an import with a v0 version
[15:03] <rogpeppe> dimitern: and i don't think you'd be complaining if the import path was github.com/juju/bakery
[15:04] <dimitern> rogpeppe, the difference is simple: the unversioned import is not yet versioned, the unstable but versioned one is imported as unstable as a conscious choice
[15:04] <rogpeppe> dimitern: they're exactly the same. neither is stable.
[15:05] <rogpeppe> dimitern: i used .v0 just so it would be trivial to update with govers when the time comes to bump the version
[15:05] <dimitern> rogpeppe, ok, that's fine, I'm just saying we'll need to bump it before releasing a stable 1.23
[15:06] <rogpeppe> dimitern: i don't think that should be a necessary prereq
[15:06] <rogpeppe> dimitern: although i'd like to do it anyway
[15:08] <dimitern> rogpeppe, cool
[15:12] <natefinch> technically, with godeps, we don't really need versioning. The version is just a nice human-readably suggestion. For example... 1.23 says it's importing charm.v5-unstable, but it's really importing a commit from the 1.23 branch
[15:13] <natefinch> note that I do still think versioning is good and that we should continue to use it.
[15:17] <natefinch> we need juju status -f
[15:17] <natefinch> so it'll update the status whenever there's a change, and I don't have to spam juju status constantly
[15:31] <benji> "watch juju status" can be a reasonable substitute
[15:33] <natefinch> benji: yeah that works :)
[16:06] <voidspace> dimitern: so, there's a comment in extractInterfaces about skipping disabled network interfaces
[16:06] <voidspace> dimitern: but it doesn't skip them
[16:06] <voidspace> dimitern: if it did, life might be simpler...
[16:08] <dimitern> voidspace, oh, yeah - I noticed that one as well and glared at it :)
[16:08] <voidspace> dimitern: do we *need* to know the disabled interfaces?
[16:11] <dimitern> voidspace, we need to not try to use them as primary interfaces at least
[16:11] <dimitern> voidspace, that's coming from another bug around that code
[16:11] <voidspace> dimitern: well, if extract interfaces didn't return them there's a lot less chance we'd try and use them
[16:11] <voidspace> dimitern: although finding the actual bug would be good - maybe *as well*?
[16:11] <dimitern> voidspace, no, I mean we need to know whether they are disabled or not
[16:12] <dimitern> if possible
[16:12] <voidspace> dimitern: digging in still
[16:15] <dimitern> dooferlad, voidspace, PTAL http://reviews.vapour.ws/r/1365/ when you have a moment - juju subnet add cmd
[16:15] <dooferlad> dimitern: *click*
[16:16] <voidspace> also looking
[16:16] <dimitern> thanks guys
[16:25] <dooferlad> dimitern: I like CheckNumArgs - nice!
[16:27] <dimitern> dooferlad, it came along nicely yeah :)
[16:28] <dimitern> dooferlad, that helper is a candidate for factoring out in a common place later
[16:29] <dimitern> dooferlad, if you like, use it for spaces as well (just copying it for now I guess - for simplicity, then we'll move it somewhere)
[16:36] <dooferlad> dimitern: Yea, I was thinking of making use of it, though I was thinking of something like ParseArg(arg string, *parseFunction, *targetVariable) err {}
[16:36] <dooferlad> dimitern: Not sure if combining the two ideas just gets messy!
[16:38] <dooferlad> dimitern: also, it gets to a point where you are just writing code because it is a cool idea, rather than making progress. I think I am approaching that point :-)
[16:39] <dimitern> dooferlad, hah I know the feeling
[16:53] <dimitern> dooferlad, voidspace, and a final PR for today - juju subnet remove - https://github.com/juju/juju/pull/2014/ (the diff includes the previous PR - please ignore that)
[16:54] <TheMue> dimitern: what does " install -D -m 644 /dev/null '/var/lib/juju/nonce.txt'" of the userdata in cloudinit do?
[16:55] <dooferlad> TheMue: I believe that file is required for the machine to boot, but it doesn't need to contain anything. I ran into it a while ago.
[16:55] <dimitern> TheMue, it installs the nonce file for the machine agent
[16:56] <dimitern> dooferlad, TheMue, the nonce is used to verify the machine agent trying to login as "machine-X" is indeed allowed to do so (the provisioner generates the nonce when it starts an instance for machine-X)
[16:56] <dimitern> ok folks - time for me to go
[16:57] <TheMue> dimitern: I looked the whole bootstap up and down
[16:57] <TheMue> dimitern: and everything really looks similar, so I'll now check the content of the nonce
[16:57] <dooferlad> TheMue: There are plenty of people having problems because that file is missing (https://www.google.co.uk/search?q=var%2Flib%2Fjuju%2Fnonce.txt%2520missing&gws_rd=ssl#q=var%2Flib%2Fjuju%2Fnonce.txt+missing)
[16:58] <dimitern> TheMue, I'd appreciate if you summarize your findings in a mail please, and let's discuss it tomorrow?
[16:58] <TheMue> dimitern: yep, will do
[16:58] <dimitern> TheMue, thanks!
[17:14] <alexisb> katco, you around?
[17:15] <katco> alexisb: i am!
[17:20] <alexisb> dooferlad, voidspace if you all have updates on the 1.23 networking bugs please provide them to me before you eod
[17:20] <alexisb> we need to make a call on releasing 1.23 by end of my day
[17:21] <jw4> alexisb: there is a high priority bug in upgrades that I may have a fix for today
[17:21] <jw4> (1.23)
[17:21] <jw4> 1438489
[17:22] <jw4> bug 1438489 (sorry for the stutter)
[17:22] <mup> Bug #1438489: juju stop responding after juju-upgrade <upgrade-juju> <juju-core:Triaged by johnweldon4> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1438489>
[17:24] <alexisb> jw4, nice
[17:24] <alexisb> if we want to included it for beta3 it needs to land today
[17:24] <alexisb> otherwise it will go in a point release
[17:24] <jw4> alexisb: hopefully yep, although there seems to be another bug right behind it if this one clears
[17:25] <jw4> alexisb: in a different part of code but also to do with upgrades
[17:38] <mup> Bug #1439204 changed: environs/tools does not cleanup in the right order <test-failure> <windows> <juju-core:Fix Released by jameinel> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1439204>
[18:13] <voidspace> alexisb: two bugs of the three I was working on done and fix committed
[18:13] <voidspace> alexisb: third in progress, partial fix but not the main issue, done - still hopeful to land tomorrow
[18:15] <voidspace> alexisb: can go into the next release though - or I can try and land the simple (partial) fix we have immediately
[18:22] <alexisb> voidspace, ack, thank you!
[18:28] <natefinch> ericsnow, wwitzel3: either of you still working on 1.23 bugs?
[18:32] <mup> Bug #1435413 changed: rename "juju backups restore" to "juju backups recover" <backup-restore> <juju-core:Won't Fix by ericsnowcurrently> <juju-core 1.23:Won't Fix by ericsnowcurrently> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1435413>
[18:52] <ericsnow> natefinch: wrapping up some vmware stuff and there's still the 1 GCE bug that needs attention
[18:53] <natefinch> ericsnow: sounds like they're trying to get 1.23 cut tonight. vmware is still a ways off, right? Seems like GCE should be the priority
[18:56] <ericsnow> natefinch: yep
[19:15] <voidspace> g'night all
[19:33] <natefinch> ...and now that my HA stuff is ready, there's no graduated reviewers around
[19:33] <natefinch> le sigh
[19:33] <katco> natefinch: o/
[19:33] <katco> natefinch: finishing up a review and i'll TAL
[19:33] <natefinch> oh, shit, I forgot some of the "newbies" are graduated :)
[19:34] <katco> natefinch: haha yeah :)
[19:34] <natefinch> katco: much appreciated - http://reviews.vapour.ws/r/1299/
[19:34] <katco> boy reviews are like laundry.... just when you think you might be done and you can work on something else :p
[19:40] <natefinch> katco: haha, yep
[19:41] <natefinch> katco: ahh crud, I have to fix some of the comments... I went from one type to another and back to the first, but I forgot to put the comments back to the first type
[19:41] <katco> natefinch: if you want to return the favor, fairly small: http://reviews.vapour.ws/r/1367/
[19:41] <katco> natefinch: ok np, lmk when it's ready
[19:42] <natefinch> katco: ok, fixed
[19:43] <katco> k looking
[19:43] <natefinch> katco: looking at your review
[19:43] <katco> natefinch: ty
[19:43] <natefinch> katco: The file 'featuretests/package_gccgo_test.go' (r3b6a6c8) could not be found in the repository
[19:43] <katco> natefinch: right i deleted it :)
[19:44] <katco> natefinch: i don't know why RB has problems with that
[19:44] <natefinch> katco: heh ok
[19:44] <katco> natefinch: https://github.com/juju/juju/pull/2015/files#diff-765f9c55678c118cef1ce099ec147738L1
[19:44] <katco> natefinch: that's what it was
[19:49] <ericsnow> any networking folks around?
[19:49] <ericsnow> I'm seeing the addressworker in a restart loop around this log entry: 2015-04-01 19:47:52 ERROR juju.worker runner.go:219 exited "addresserworker": environment does not support networking
[19:51] <natefinch> katco: ship it
[19:51] <katco> natefinch: woot! ty!
[19:51] <natefinch> katco: welcome :)
[19:52] <natefinch> I swear HA used to work on local, but it totally doesn't now.
[19:56] <mup> Bug #1439364 was opened: error in logs: environment does not support networking <juju-core:Triaged> <juju-core 1.23:Triaged> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1439364>
[19:59] <mup> Bug #1439364 changed: error in logs: environment does not support networking <juju-core:Triaged> <juju-core 1.23:Triaged> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1439364>
[20:08] <mup> Bug #1439364 was opened: error in logs: environment does not support networking <juju-core:Triaged> <juju-core 1.23:Triaged> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1439364>
[20:27] <natefinch> katco: how's the review coming?
[20:27] <katco> natefinch: good. my wife came home so i got interrupted for a few
[20:28] <natefinch> katco: no problem. Sorry to pester you, just need to get it checked in today (if possible), and I'm running out of day.
[20:28] <katco> natefinch: np, reviewing as fast as i can :)
[20:32] <natefinch> katco: thank you, I appreciate it.
[20:35] <mup> Bug #1439375 was opened: logger in worker/instancepoller is named "juju.worker.instanceupdater" <juju-core:New> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1439375>
[20:41] <katco> natefinch: i forget, do mgo update operations need an exists assert?
[20:42] <natefinch> katco: shouldn't... mongo is update == upsert but I don't know if mgo somehow separates the two
[20:42] <katco> k
[20:43] <katco> natefinch: i have an initial review posted
[20:43] <katco> natefinch: i need to look at the api stuff again... that stuff is so tedious
[20:45] <natefinch> katco: yeah, the API stuff is super annoying. totally needs to be either generated or somehow refactored to take out all the boilerplate
[20:45] <katco> natefinch: definitely
[20:47] <katco> natefinch: i see dimiter already commented on the api stuff, do you feel like he gave that a good once-over?
[20:47] <katco> natefinch: b/c the logic looks fine to me, it's the nuances of our RPC implementation that i'd really have to go over
[20:48] <natefinch> katco: yes, but I had to make changes to it in response to what he asked for, so really, he sort of needs to approve my changes. But of course, they weren't done until he went offline. le sigh. Maybe I can get some of the NZ/AUS guys to review the API stuff and get it merged in later tonight.
[20:49] <katco> natefinch: that might be best... i don't want to just rubber stamp it.
[20:49] <katco> natefinch: the logic looks fine though
[20:49] <katco> natefinch: axw is the next OCR
[20:50] <natefinch> katco: no problem. I appreciate the time you put into it.
[20:50] <katco> natefinch: today, it's my job ;)
[21:01] <natefinch> axw: when you get on, if you could review http://reviews.vapour.ws/r/1299/ I would really appreciate it, especially the API stuff.
[21:01] <katco> natefinch-dinner: i will ask him in our standup as well
[21:01] <natefinch-dinner> katco: thanbks
[21:01] <ericsnow> wwitzel3: I think you may be right
[21:02] <katco> natefinch-dinner: enjoy dinner
[21:35] <cherylj> ericsnow, thumper: Could I get a quick license review? https://github.com/juju/jujusvg/pull/24
[21:35] <cherylj> cmars ^^
[21:41] <mup> Bug #1439398 was opened: GCE low-level RemoveInstances fails if firewalls are not found <juju-core:Triaged> <juju-core 1.23:Triaged> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1439398>
[21:46] <ericsnow> cherylj: that license exception is the same one we have everywhere else, right?
[21:46] <cherylj> ericsnow: yes, I copied it from another repo
[21:46] <ericsnow> cherylj: cool, LGTM
[21:46] <cherylj> thanks!
[22:15] <jw4> I'm pulling my hair out with this local upgrade test... it seems to not be picking up my updated code on my 1.23 branch... any tips for iterating on upgrade testing?
[22:17] <jw4> ah, strike that, my code is getting pulled in... there was a problem in my assumptions about upgrades
[22:18] <jw4> it looks like my upgrade steps have to manually iterate units on the machine, they don't get passed in as part of the upgrade operation
[22:35] <ericsnow> just got bit by the fact that the pointer to a loop var does not change across iterations (which makes sense *now*)
[22:42] <ericsnow> could I get a review on http://reviews.vapour.ws/r/1370/?
[22:42] <ericsnow> katco: ^^^
[22:55] <ericsnow> axw: ping
[22:56] <ericsnow> axw: I guess you won't be one quite yet :)
[22:56] <ericsnow> s/one/on/
[22:57] <ericsnow> wallyworld: perhaps you could takea quick look at http://reviews.vapour.ws/r/1370/
[22:57] <wallyworld> ericsnow: in a meeting, will look soon
[22:57] <ericsnow> wallyworld: thanks!
[23:06] <axw> ericsnow: LGTM
[23:06] <ericsnow> axw: thanks
[23:06] <axw> natefinch-dinner: will take a look a bit later on
[23:07] <axw> np
[23:07] <ericsnow> axw: it was such a dumb bug :(
[23:07] <axw> ericsnow: yeah, that's an easy one to fall for
[23:38] <mup> Bug #1439447 was opened: tools download in cloud-init should not go through http[s]_proxy <cloud-installer> <landscape> <juju-core:New> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1439447>
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[15:16] <neil_> hi, I have complied a program it uses a library (libonion.so.0) ... "gcc post.c -o post -lonion" ... when using ldd it shows "libonion.so.0 => not found" ... how do I get gcc to set the full path to this library ?
[15:33] <sufy85> you might want to ask in ##c
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2015-04-01-#ubuntu-touch
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[00:00] <studio__> RAOF, ?
[00:00] <popey> ChloeWolfieGirl: is it a website?
[00:00] <RAOF> studio__: I don't know :)
[00:01] <ChloeWolfieGirl> popey yeah its a website :P
[00:01] <studio__> i think you know ;)
[00:01] <popey> well duh
[00:01] <popey> google OV5648 and it says 5 megapixel
[00:02] <popey> google for the e4.5 specs... says front cam is 5megapixel
[00:03] <popey> ChloeWolfieGirl: what's the issue?
[00:04] <studio__> so why dmesg is only showing "OV5648" ?
[00:05] <popey> no idea
[00:06] <ChloeWolfieGirl> Its video playback from NicoNicoDouga nicovideo.jp (A japanese alternative to youtube) when playing videos it'll show the text that goes over a video, and the sound works, but the actual video its self is just black, (( i.imgur.com/2EKG5x0.png ))
[00:08] <Ponchale> easylabs is a Colombian software developer
[00:08] <Ponchale> and want to create a version of Ubuntu for tablets and mobile devices to buy and then we install and fabricate our own devices. My question is how we can modify that code and then install it on the dispositivs
[00:08] <popey> ChloeWolfieGirl: do i need an account?
[00:08] <studio__> have to leave, time to go to sleep ... bye all, and thanks for help!
[00:09] <ChloeWolfieGirl> popey to access videos you do, not sure why, but yeah
[00:09] <RAOF> Ponchale: I believe you're looking for http://partners.ubuntu.com/contact-us
[00:10] <Ponchale> Raof us and communicate by that means in January and we are almost in April and we have not responded
[00:11] <Ponchale> RAOF us and communicate by that means in January and we are almost in April and we have not responded
[00:12] <RAOF> Ah, ok. I'll see what I can find.
[00:12] <RAOF> (I presume you mean that *you* have tried communicating by that form and that no one at Canonical has responded)
[00:13] <popey> ChloeWolfieGirl: ok, finally got it working.. audio only
[00:14] <popey> ChloeWolfieGirl: http://people.canonical.com/~alan/screenshots/device-2015-04-01-011354.png
[00:14] <popey> i guess you're seeing subtitles overlayed?
[00:15] <popey> (no idea what I'm watching here)
[00:15] <ChloeWolfieGirl> popey yeah I see subtitles as well, just not the video behind it ((Haha xD))
[00:17] <popey> ChloeWolfieGirl: file a bug against https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/webbrowser-app if i were you
[00:17] <popey> let me have the bug number and I'll confirm it
[00:20] <ChloeWolfieGirl> Thanks Popey :D
[00:27] <ChloeWolfieGirl> popey https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/webbrowser-app/+bug/1438955
[00:28] <popey> thanks ChloeWolfieGirl
[00:28] <ChloeWolfieGirl> Nah thank you popey :D
[00:28] <popey> confirmed
[00:30] <ChloeWolfieGirl> :D
[03:52] <bzoltan_> dragonkeeper: when you see this line? Is it there?
[06:11] <star_> hi, I have one problem with mir client program.
[06:12] <star_> I run the test program - mir_demo_client_egltriangle on my mako mobile phone.
[06:13] <star_> However, the triangle is "flicked" on the screen and DO not composite with the background.
[06:13] <star_> Does anyone meet the same problem?
[06:16] <star_> anyone can tell me which is the right "mir" reversion running on MAKO? I use the 0.12.1. However, unity can NOT be started if the mir related libraries are replaced.
[06:19] <star_> anyone can help me on this?
[06:22] <nhaines> It's 6 in the morning on a weekday.
[06:22] <nhaines> !patience
[06:23] <nhaines> You'll probably have more luck in a couple of huors.
[06:23] <nhaines> hours.
[06:24] <star_> Ok. Got it. Thanks a lot.
[06:25] <nhaines> No problem, and god luck.
[06:25] <nhaines> I'm going to throw this wireless keyboard out the window. :P
[06:25] <nhaines> Anyway, when the engineers are in, they're quite helpful.
[06:26] <star_> Yes. I get the chat room address from my friend. And he rates the room very high :)
[06:27] <jasonmd> I've got Ubuntu touch stable on a Nexus 4 anyone here tried the BQ device?
[06:30] <RAOF> star_: The right Mir version is the version of Mir in the images :)
[06:32] <nhaines> jasonmd: I had the bq device for a weekend. It was really nice.
[06:32] <RAOF> star_: Unity should start if the Mir packages are replaced by equivalent ones (specifically - if the image has libmirserver31 then you need a libmirserver31 package); if you're building Mir from source you will likely need to rebuild Unity8 and unity-system-compositor against your new Mir, though.
[06:32] <RAOF> star_: Our server ABI stability is a work in progress :)
[06:32] <jasonmd> Is it smoother than Nexus 4?
[06:33] <nhaines> I don't know. I've never had one.
[06:34] <jasonmd> ah
[06:35] <nhaines> I think we got it to skip once or twice but basically it worked just as well as my Nexus 5 does.
[06:36] <star_> ==RAOF
[06:36] <jasonmd> ok, Nexus 4 is ok, I had Ubuntu on the Samsung Nexus before it, but it wasn't stable.
[06:37] <star_> RAOF: is there anyway to build the mir client easily?
[06:37] <jasonmd> and it gets better with every update but Cut the rope is pretty slow on it
[06:38] <RAOF> star_: They're built in the mir-demos package?
[06:39] <RAOF> star_: What are you trying to do, specifically?
[06:43] <star_> Sorry, my network is broken and miss the answers. Can anyone paste the answer to me again?
[06:43] <star_> Thanks a lot.
[06:44] <RAOF> star_: I'm not entirely sure what your question is. The demo clients are available pre-built in the mir-demos package if you want them.
[06:45] <nhaines> jasonmd: Cut the Rope ran perfectly on the bq phone. Not at all well on my Nexus 5, although still playable.
[06:48] <jasonmd> interesting, it's playable on Nexus 4 but it's in slow motion, i thought Nexus 5 has higher specs than the Bq guess it's down to drivers?
[06:48] <star_> RAOF: Thanks a lot. I can try the demo package. By the way, is there simplest way to compile the mir client program?
[06:48] <RAOF> star_: Not really; you need to build the Mir source tree.
[06:48] <RAOF> But! All the *client* demos should work fine against the phone's installed libmirclient, because we actually have an ABI there :)
[06:49] <star_> RAOF: I found the README in the examples (of Mir source code tar ball).
[06:49] <star_> RAOF: It says: examples for mir clients. you should have package 'libmirclient-dev' installed you can compile with a command like: g++ -std=c++0x -o mir_demo_client_scroll `pkg-config --libs --cflags mirclient` demo_client_scroll.cpp graphics_utils.cpp gcc -o mir_demo_client_flicker `pkg-config --libs --cflags mirclient` demo_client_flicker.c
[06:50] <RAOF> Yeah, that'll also work.
[06:50] <star_> RAOF: Ok. Got it. I try and found whether the issue is existed or not. Thanks a lot.
[06:58] <star_> RAOF: The "mir-demos" can NOT be got. The apt-get returns missing about the deb: mir-demos_0.9.0+15.04.20141125-0ubuntu1_armhf.deb .
[06:59] <star_> RAOF: And the libmirclient-dev can NOT be installed too :(
[06:59] <star_> RAOF: Failed to fetch http://ports.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-ports/pool/main/m/mir/libmircommon-dev_0.9.0+15.04.20141125-0ubuntu1_armhf.deb 404 Not Found [IP: 91.189.88.140 80]
[06:59] <RAOF> star_: That looks like you've got an outdated apt cache?
[07:00] <RAOF> star_: You might need to run “apt update” first, so apt will see the new packages.
[07:01] <star_> RAOF: Actually, I run "apt-get update" first. However, I will do it again.
[07:23] <star_> RAOF: I give it up on nexus4 and tried on nexus 5.
[07:24] <star_> RAOF: on nexus 5, mir-demos can be installed. However, program can NOT work well.
[07:24] <star_> phablet@ubuntu-phablet:~$ mir_demo_client_flicker -m /run/mir_socket Starting [1045958.941891] Loader: Loading modules from: /usr/lib/arm-linux-gnueabihf/mir/client-platform/ [1045958.943049] Loader: Loading module: /usr/lib/arm-linux-gnueabihf/mir/client-platform/mesa.so.2 mir_demo_client_flicker: /build/buildd/mir-0.12.1+15.04.20150324/examples/flicker.c:134: main: Assertion `mir_connection_is_valid(connection)' failed. Abort
[07:24] <star_> phablet@ubuntu-phablet:~$ mir_demo_client_egltriangle -m /run/mir_socket [1046004.451514] Loader: Loading modules from: /usr/lib/arm-linux-gnueabihf/mir/client-platform/ [1046004.452070] Loader: Loading module: /usr/lib/arm-linux-gnueabihf/mir/client-platform/mesa.so.2 Can't get connection
[07:26] <rpadovani> oSoMoN, o/ I found a 'problem' with the settings UI: as you asked, I activated the searchengine menu selector if there are at least two searchenignes in the folder: but the default one isn't in the folder itself, so if you add your first engine to the folder in .local/share you still don't have the selector in settings
[07:27] <rpadovani> We can easiliy fix it providing search engines by default, but atm it's a bit weird
[07:33] <star_> RAOF: are you still there?
[07:37] <star_> Anyone tried "mir-demos" on nexus4 or nexus5?
[07:49] <jasonmd> wouldn't know how to test mir-demo
[07:57] <oSoMoN> rpadovani, yeah, I’ve seen that too. Considering that we’re not shipping default search engines, this setting won’t be visible for users for now, so I wouldn’t worry about it
[07:57] <rpadovani> ack
[07:58] <Guest16466> how to get MirSurface in qtcreator?
[08:00] <Se7> morning :)
[08:00] <rpadovani> oSoMoN, I'm not good enough with Python and AP to review your code efficiently, but I think you should add a text to check binding of switches, 'cause they was broke in the first imlementation of the branch :-)
[08:00] <bhack> Hi, I'am founding a italian porting guide for ubuntu touch
[08:01] <bhack> there are italian developers?
[08:05] <oSoMoN> rpadovani, agreed, that would be good to have, however there’s no way to access the state of a ListItem’s control in autopilot, so I can’t really write a test for it
[08:05] <rpadovani> oh, I see
[08:11] <freizhang> hi, is there any why to run x app inside ubuntu touch? like emacs
[08:11] <bhack> italian please??
[08:11] <bhack> :-)
[08:12] <freizhang> sorry, I'm Chinese
[08:12] <bhack> hahahha, don't worry
[08:13] <freizhang> I have tried xmir, and follow the guide, but my nexus7 now get infinity boot loop
[08:13] <freizhang> bhack: :>
[08:13] <rpadovani> bhack, if you wanna speak italian, join #ubuntu-it-dev
[08:14] <bhack> thk you
[08:15] <bhack> :-) i don't speak english ....i want an help for bulding a porting ubuntu os
[08:17] <Se7> bhack forse meglio se chiedi sul wiki
[08:17] <freizhang> anyone had successful ran x app in ubuntu touch? can you hep me
[08:19] <star_> Does anyone tries "mir-demos"?
[08:24] <dragonkeeper> i want to tether an android phone to ubuntu phone so both use ubuntu phones data to get online, is that possible?
[08:25] <ogra_> ah, you were the one asking on the ML ?
[08:26] <ogra_> sorry, i didnt get to answer yet ...
[08:26] <freizhang> just turn on your android phone's mobile ap
[08:26] <ogra_> how would that physically work ?
[08:27] <dragonkeeper> ogra_, dont think i asked this b4 + phone >usb>otg>phone
[08:27] <sturmflut-work> ogra_: using WiFi, the Android phone can act as an access point
[08:28] <ogra_> sturmflut-work, right, i was referring to wired tethering via USB :)
[08:29] <ogra_> dragonkeeper, i have no clue what you would have to do on the android side to make this work ... for the ubuntu side you wouldnt do anything differently than you do on a PC ...
[08:30] <ogra_> android-gadget-service enable rndis ....
[08:30] <ogra_> that disables mtp and enables usb networking on the ubuntu phone ... it will set up an usb0 device on a PC and provide an IP via dhcp to the PC ...
[08:31] <ogra_> if your PC is an android phone ... well, then it is up to android to recognize that usb0 device ...
[08:31] <Guest16466> hi, i want to get the natvie window from a qwidget, is that possible? how can i do it?
[08:34] <dragonkeeper> i see
[08:35] <dragonkeeper> ogra_, ill test it out a little later :) gotta run to work :( , thanks
[08:35] <ogra_> dragonkeeper, let me know if it works :)
[08:41] <nhaines> oSoMoN: Did I ever mention to you that there should be a way to manually inject arbitrary Javascript into an arbitrary page and execute it in the Ubuntu browser?
[08:41] <nhaines> Because there should.
[08:42] <oSoMoN> nhaines, https://bugs.launchpad.net/oxide/+bug/1379857
[08:44] <nhaines> oSoMoN: Sounds like a good start. I'm thinking of "bookmarklet" support specifically. I'll +1 that bug.
[08:45] <ogra_> nhaines, it is definitely possible if you use a webview in an app :)
[08:45] <oSoMoN> nhaines, then that would be https://bugs.launchpad.net/webbrowser-app/+bug/1407746
[08:45] <nhaines> oSoMoN: <3
[08:46] <nhaines> Oh, of course aq got to it first.
[08:47] <ogra_> that is how i created https://plus.google.com/+OliverGrawert/posts/eK5X7voSxRr
[08:48] <nhaines> ogra_: I really like that webapp too. :)
[08:48] <ogra_> thanks ... will soon go to the store
[08:48] <ogra_> (i'm trying to re-work mzanetti's imgur uploader for G+ video and photo uploads first though)
[08:49] <mzanetti> \o/
[08:49] <mzanetti> ogra_, lemme know if you need help
[08:49] <ogra_> yeah, i dont think your side is the difficult part here :)
[08:49] <mzanetti> heh
[08:49] <ogra_> just needs authentication integration ...
[08:50] <ogra_> the prob is that photos, video and G+ use 3 different apis
[08:51] <jun> hi, i want to get natvie window handle from a qwidget, is that possible? how can i do it?
[08:52] <ogra_> jun, perhaps try #ubuntu-app-devel
[08:52] <ogra_> there might be more Qt people than here
[08:52] <jun> ths
[09:09] <JamesTait> Good morning all; happy Fun Day! :-D
[09:12] <ogra_> you mean it is fun that the internet is unusable for 24h ?
[09:12] <ogra_> :)
[09:16] <jasonmd> afternoon
[09:22] <Raslin> Hey has any one had prob where music just stops playing reboot did not fix it
[09:26] <Raslin> Hello any one here
[09:26] <ogra_> Raslin, did you play any game ?
[09:27] <ogra_> there is a bug where game audio mutes the system ... start the game again and unmute ...
[09:27] <ogra_> (fix is in the next OTA)
[09:29] <czajkowski> aloha
[09:29] <popey> welcome to the madhouse czajkowski
[09:29] <ogra_> whee !!!
[09:30] <jgdx> pete-woods, hi, did you see https://github.com/martinpitt/python-dbusmock/pull/6 ?
[09:32] <pete-woods> jgdx: looks good at a high level
[09:32] <pete-woods> will check it doesn't break my tests :)
[09:34] <jasonmd> I saw an article recenlty on installing whatsapp, anyone confirm it works?
[09:35] <jgdx> pete-woods, good, do not fear questioning some of the decisions made there.
[09:36] <jgdx> pete-woods, great. Thanks you for testing.
[09:42] <ogra_> jasonmd, you saw an article ? where ?
[09:43] <jasonmd> http://www.whatsappfor.org/software/whatsapp-ubuntu-phone-touch/
[09:45] <Ponchale> hi people
[09:45] <Ponchale> how are you?
[09:45] <jasonmd> all good, almost home time... :)
[09:46] <Ponchale> :)
[09:46] <jgdx> How are you, Ponchale?
[09:46] <aquarius> popey, updated seshat published which should make it a bit easier to exit books and scroll the library
[09:47] <Ponchale> I want to make a distribution of different mobile ubuntu today where I can find the source code with their instructions to compile and install to devices that I like the Nexus 4 7 to 10
[09:47] <ogra_> jasonmd, i highly doubt it will work, but try it if you feel like and let us know :)
[09:48] <jasonmd> Yea I was dubious
[09:48] <ogra_> jasonmd, whatsapp regulary wipes open clients from github with trademark notices ... even if it would work it wouldnt persist for long i guess
[09:49] <rpadovani> oSoMoN, o/ Do you have 5 minutes? I've an idea to implement a workaround for the new tab refactoring branch
[09:49] <Raslin> Music muted start stop the gane did not work even thought it did turn on the sounds in the game. when I went to the player it was still muted
[09:49] <jasonmd> Yeah I've also seen that they do that
[09:49] <jgdx> Ponchale, https://developer.ubuntu.com/en/start/ubuntu-for-devices/porting-new-device/
[09:50] <Elleo> aquarius: I don't seem to be able to scroll the library at all in the new version (0.4), looks like it hides the scrollbar and swiping doesn't do anything
[09:50] <jgdx> Ponchale, you want to fork Ubuntu touch?
[09:50] <ogra_> Ponchale, the rootfs is just built from deb packages from the ubuntu archive ... there is no "build world from source" way
[09:50] <aquarius> Elleo, you may need to swipe down on the right hand side; it seems to not detect the scroll gesture when it's actually on a book
[09:51] <ogra_> Ponchale, not much different from the desktop isos
[09:51] <popey> aquarius: ooh, /me updates
[09:51] <Ponchale> :O
[09:51] <Ponchale> es decir
[09:51] <Ponchale> sorry
[09:51] <aquarius> Elleo, they do a whole bunch of weird touch handling :(
[09:51] <Elleo> aquarius: doesn't seem to pick it up anywhere
[09:51] <Ponchale> ie there is no way to make adaptations to the source code?
[09:51] <Elleo> aquarius: yeah, I remember; for erudite I just added a couple of big up/down buttons to the bottom of the library that paged through stuff
[09:52] <Ponchale> if the code is free because no change could not understand
[09:52] <ogra_> Ponchale, the source is there, you can grab it and modify it indeed
[09:52] <aquarius> Elleo, heh. I could do that but I am severely loath to add html to their layout since if they change anything it'll totally screw up. But that's not a bad idea
[09:52] <Ponchale> but? ogra
[09:53] <ogra_> no but
[09:53] <Ponchale> ogra_ but?
[09:53] <aquarius> Elleo, which device are you on? scrolling works (given that you have to do it in a certain place) on my aquaris and in the emulator; are you n4?
[09:53] <Elleo> aquarius: yeah, understandable; I don't think changes happen much though
[09:53] <Elleo> aquarius: aquaris
[09:54] <Elleo> aquarius: I'm on devel-proposed rather than RTM though
[09:54] <Elleo> so possible that the new oxide version makes a difference
[09:54] <ogra_> Ponchale, http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-touch/daily-preinstalled/current/vivid-preinstalled-touch-armhf.manifest ... that is the list of packages in the rootfs ... you can just apt-get source <packagename> for any of them ...
[09:54] <Ponchale> ogra_
[09:54] <faenil> ogra_: just some context, the guy probably uses google translate, so if there's anyone who speaks spanish in here it's better if they have a private conversation in spanish
[09:54] <faenil> it will be much faster
[09:55] <faenil> and hello Ponchale
[09:58] <Ponchale> I am the founder of EasyLabs a developer of software Colombia and we have been in contact with Ubuntu in January to ever be allies responded, we want to make a fork of mobile Ubuntu because it is very good, secretly we have our apps store any profits very good that we MeeGo since we were using Mer but saw that ubuntu was better and bring those characteristics here and because we wanted to access the code and later tutorials to
[09:58] <Ponchale> ogra_ I am the founder of EasyLabs a developer of software Colombia and we have been in contact with Ubuntu in January to ever be allies responded, we want to make a fork of mobile Ubuntu because it is very good, secretly we have our apps store any profits very good that we MeeGo since we were using Mer but saw that ubuntu was better and bring those characteristics here and because we wanted to access the code and later tutoria
[09:58] <ogra_> Ponchale, you cut off after "and later tutorials to ..."
[10:00] <Ponchale> ogra_ the code and later tutorials to compile etc etc
[10:02] <ogra_> Ponchale, so as i said, the code is in deb packages in the ubuntu archive, if you want to fork you will likely want a setup to build your own rootfs and an archive with your modified packages plus a system-image server to deploy your changed rootfs to devices
[10:03] <Ponchale> We can do something ogra_
[10:03] <ogra_> (this is not trivial and parts of the above are not well documented yet)
[10:04] <Ponchale> There are guides on how to do that you mention me ogra_? because as we are familiar with MER but not with mobile Ubuntu
[10:04] <jgdx> thostr_, hi, anything in particular I should test in i-network?
[10:05] <ogra_> Ponchale, no, there are not many guides, that is what i mean :)
[10:05] <thostr_> jgdx: well, just use it as normal. there is one thing however we noticed: that is when switching wifi on/off the APs appear sometimes below the settings item instead in the wifi section
[10:07] <ogra_> Ponchale, for starting your work you can simply install on a nexus device, make the system writable and replace the installed packages with your own ... to produce proper images you will need more though
[10:07] <Ponchale> Might ogra_ guide us and help
[10:09] <aquarius> Elleo, try upgrading again; 0.5 now has scroll-the-library buttons :)
[10:09] <nhaines> Wel now I feel left out that I missed a version. :)
[10:10] * aquarius laughs
[10:10] <jgdx> thostr_, okay, I'll look out for it.
[10:11] <Elleo> aquarius: great, that works nicely, thanks :)
[10:15] <jgdx> thostr_, I see some failed urfkill calls, but I don't think that was introduced by this silo
[10:15] <nhaines> aquarius: seems great!
[10:15] <jgdx> how does one deal with urfkill inprogress exceptions
[10:16] <thostr_> jgdx: yes, this silo fixes some things but is mostly bug compatible to old version
[10:16] <thostr_> jgdx: we didn't want to change too many things at once
[10:16] <jgdx> "bug compatible" +1
[10:17] <jgdx> thostr_, roger
[10:17] <thostr_> jgdx: with the changes we did we are now able to fix quite some bugs properly (before that was more like hacks on top of hacks)
[10:19] <jgdx> thostr_, with tests no less
[10:19] <jgdx> thostr_, where'd pete-woods go, btw?
[10:20] <thostr_> jgdx: he just moved house and still fighting with his internet
[10:20] <jgdx> ack
[10:32] <jgdx> seb128, hi, you know anything about http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/10717520/ ?
[10:33] <jgdx> seb128, building uss
[10:33] <seb128> jgdx, hey, no, is that on vivid?
[10:33] <seb128> jgdx, did you run out of disk space?
[10:33] <jgdx> seb128, yes
[10:34] <jgdx> seb128, 8 gigorbaits left
[10:34] <jgdx> let me nuke the build folder
[10:36] <seb128> jgdx, let me try a build here
[10:44] <jgdx> seb128, false alarm I think. Got a successful build now
[10:44] <seb128> jgdx, great
[11:52] <jgdx> seb128, we'll be getting some wifi test failures in uss. I'll propose a branch to fix it.
[11:58] <jgdx> seb128, https://code.launchpad.net/~jonas-drange/ubuntu-system-settings/pin-dbusmock/+merge/254898
[12:14] <seb128> jgdx, what changed that makes the tests start failing?
[12:15] <jgdx> seb128, dbusmock v0.14
[12:15] <jgdx> I thought it was pinned at 0.10.
[12:15] <seb128> jgdx, did they fix bugs or did they added bugs?
[12:15] <jgdx> seb128, fixed bugs
[12:15] <seb128> k, fair enough
[12:15] <jgdx> seb128, I have a branch that uses the newer dbusmock (0.14) with tests passing.
[12:16] <seb128> jgdx, https://code.launchpad.net/~jonas-drange/ubuntu-system-settings/pin-dbusmock/+merge/254898 has no code change, what is it fixing?
[12:17] <seb128> jgdx, shouldn't we just have your fixes and a > 0.13 together?
[12:17] <jgdx> seb128, the fixes branch is still wip.
[12:17] <jgdx> this blocks landings
[12:17] <seb128> not sure to follow
[12:18] <jgdx> pinning dbusmock to 0.13 makes the tests pass again
[12:18] <seb128> how does that work?
[12:18] <seb128> if 0.13 is not in the archive anymore it's just going to fail to build
[12:22] <jgdx> okay
[12:24] <enkxa> hi! is ubuntu touch the only operating system in that aquarius device or is it just running on the top of the android?
[12:30] <ogra_> enkxa, it is the only OS but starts a small container for the binary drivers that come from android
[12:31] <ogra_> (else you wouldnt be able to make calls etc, there are no open drivers for phones)
[12:43] <enkxa> ok, thanks. what about those drivers come from android, are they open source?
[12:43] <ogra_> there are no open drivers for phones
[12:43] <ogra_> as i said above
[12:44] <ogra_> modem, graphics, sensors, GPS ... they all use closed source binary drivers
[12:44] <enkxa> sucks but probably have that phone anyway
[12:45] <ogra_> well, it isnt much different on any other "opensource" phones
[12:46] <ogra_> neither jolla nor firefoxOS have other drivers than ubuntu ... we all need to use the binary drivers one way or the other
[12:48] <enkxa> another question: can i get root in the device just typing sudo su
[12:48] <cwayne> yes
[12:49] <ogra_> yes, but you really shouldnt ... just use sudo as you know it from the desktop ...
[12:49] <enkxa> thats easy compared to android devices
[12:49] <ogra_> ubuntu on phones isnt different in that regard ;)
[12:50] <enkxa> i've done that all the time with my ubuntus for now over six years
[12:51] <enkxa> actually i set always root password. i used debian and freebsd before ubuntu derivatives
[12:52] <ogra_> well, that wont work on ubuntu phone
[12:52] <ogra_> the passwd database is readonly
[12:52] <ogra_> but you can just use sudo ... or sudo -s
[12:52] <enkxa> so i can't change passwords for any users?
[12:53] <ogra_> user passwords are in a separate db in the writable part of the system
[12:53] <ogra_> you can indeed change your password for the user ;)
[12:54] <ogra_> (you can also make the system writable, but that will break over time and is more a feature for people developing the underlying system than a user feature)
[12:59] <enkxa> is that phone working well? i'll consider that a replacement for my android device which is confiscated by cops but that's another story
[12:59] <ogra_> works well for me ...
[12:59] <enkxa> next question: support for full device encryption?
[12:59] <ogra_> but i guess it depends what your expectations are ...
[12:59] <enkxa> finnish cops can't get encrypted android device open
[12:59] <ogra_> not yet, no, encryption is on the roadmap but not there yet
[13:00] <ogra_> all in all, this is the firet iteration of a brandnew ubuntu OS that was desined from scratch ... it is as featureful as the first IOS and the first android were :)
[13:01] <ogra_> s/firet/first/
[13:04] <jgdx> seb128, real real fix https://code.launchpad.net/~jonas-drange/ubuntu-system-settings/fix-networkmanager-tests/+merge/254903
[13:06] <adrian47> There should be cm based source too i think, many devices has only cm so it would be easier to port
[13:13] <enkxa> now i'm gonna leave, thanx for info & advice
[13:16] <seb128> jgdx, thanks
[13:32] * popey notes his nexus 7 takes a very long time to boot with over 1000 clicks installed.
[13:33] <Se7> no one had the same problem #1438191 strange :(
[13:36] <popey> bug 1438191
[13:37] <popey> well you filed it in the wrong place, so not surprised nobody saw it.
[13:37] <seb128> mandel, hey, could you look at https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubuntu-push/+bug/1398067 ? it's probably a 1 liner python and is the most report vivid issue on e.u.c spamming our users/infra reporting the issue
[13:37] <Se7> arghrrr
[13:38] <Se7> i can change place popey ?
[13:38] <popey> Se7: i re-assignde it
[13:38] <Se7> thank you
[13:38] <popey> np
[13:42] <dobey> mardy: can you fix the needsfixing on https://code.launchpad.net/~mardy/ubuntuone-credentials/lp1376445-migration-vivid/+merge/252292 please?
[13:44] <mandel> seb128, ubuntu push? I mean, I can write python, but it is not my area
[13:44] <seb128> mandel, sorry, why is maintaining ubuntu-push? ;-)
[13:45] <seb128> mandel, for some reason I though that was you
[13:45] <mandel> seb128, no problem, I think we can talk with Chipaca he probably knows the maintainer
[13:45] <mandel> seb128, no problem haha I also think I maintain too many things ;)
[13:45] <dobey> seb128: i think you want ralsina for push client
[13:46] <seb128> dobey, thanks
[13:46] <ralsina> seb128: could be me, could be chipaca, depending on the bit
[13:46] <seb128> ralsina, see ^
[13:46] <seb128> ralsina, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubuntu-push/+bug/1398067 ? it's probably a 1 liner python and is the most report vivid issue on e.u.c spamming our users/infra reporting the issue
[13:46] <ralsina> looking...
[13:47] <seb128> ralsina, not sure if we should create the dir or os.path.exist and return
[13:47] <ralsina> that's actually a bug on click
[13:47] <seb128> how so?
[13:47] <seb128> your hook iterate over a non existing dir
[13:47] <ralsina> ah, wait
[13:47] <ralsina> I didn't know we provided the hook
[13:47] <ralsina> I'll look at it
[13:47] <seb128> ralsina, it's in lp:ubuntu-push/scripts
[13:48] <ralsina> yep
[13:48] <seb128> ralsina, I could provide a mp if that helps but I'm unsure if you want to create the dir, or print an error or just return, probably easier if one of the maintainer just do what they think is best
[13:49] <ralsina> seb128: yes, don't worry, it's a oneliner, I'll have it landed todayish
[13:49] <seb128> ralsina, thanks!
[13:49] <dobey> pass if not os.path.exists(path)
[13:49] <dobey> whee
[14:02] <aclever> hi
[14:02] <ralsina> seb128: in some /most cases, that bug seems to be triggered by users insstalling push-client on desktops... any idea why they would do such a thing?
[14:04] <Aleksa> Hello! I know the first step for bringing Ubuntu Touch to Tablet is to build the kernel.
[14:04] <Aleksa> Prestigio PMP5570C has RK3066 processor. I've found the kernel for the same processor, but not for the same device.
[14:04] <Aleksa> Could that code be used to build kernel for my device?
[14:05] <seb128> rsalveti, convergence
[14:05] <seb128> it's unitu8 desktop next
[14:05] * rsalveti looks
[14:05] <ogra_> lol
[14:07] <ogra_> Aleksa, you need more then the kernel, you need a complete android AOSP tree
[14:07] <ogra_> (well, you need small parts of it, but i doubt you would find just the bits and pieces without a full AOSP tree)
[14:09] <Aleksa> AOSP stands for Android Open Source Project. What's AOSP tree?
[14:09] <ogra_> the code tree with the source code
[14:10] <ogra_> see the porting guide from the channel topic
[14:12] <Aleksa> ogra, porting link ( http://bit.ly/18kIrhM ) directs me to some google spreadsheat
[14:12] <ogra_> thats not the link next to "Porting guide"
[14:15] <sturmflut-work> abeato: ping
[14:15] <abeato> sturmflut-work, pong
[14:17] <sturmflut-work> abeato: I have a Nexus 4 running 14.10 r17, and it doesn't use/detect an APN for one of my german SIM cards
[14:18] <mardy> dobey: ah, forgot to reply
[14:18] <abeato> sturmflut-work, I see... does it work after setting the configuration with the APN editor?
[14:18] <mardy> dobey: so, the script in the RTM does some unnecessary stuff
[14:19] <popey> ogra_: what channel should I use for rtm on flo?
[14:19] <mardy> if you want I can sync them, but the one from the vivid MP is better
[14:19] <popey> everything I try which is listed in --list-channels says its not on hte server
[14:19] <dobey> mardy: dbarth added that as he found some issues when that wasn't done
[14:19] <ogra_> popey, i dont think we build rtm on tablets ...
[14:19] * ogra_ checks
[14:19] <popey> oh
[14:19] <mardy> dobey: it was some error in his device, the script was not even executed actually :-)
[14:19] <ogra_> popey, ah, we do ...
[14:20] <popey> whats the channel name?
[14:20] <ogra_> ubuntu-rtm/devel-proposed
[14:20] <popey> ah
[14:20] <popey> for utopic?
[14:20] <sturmflut-work> abeato: Jep, if I set the APN manually it works.
[14:20] <popey> I don't want vivid
[14:20] <popey> Channel ubuntu-rtm/devel-proposed not found on server https://system-image.ubuntu.com
[14:20] <ogra_> http://system-image.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-touch/ubuntu-rtm ... weird
[14:21] <abeato> sturmflut-work, ok, it would be great if you could help us gather some data so we include your operator in the DB
[14:21] <popey> do you mean --channel=ubuntu-touch/devel-proposed ?
[14:21] <sturmflut-work> abeato: sure, can you tell me how?
[14:21] <popey> that works
[14:22] <ogra_> thats vivid
[14:22] <popey> oh
[14:22] <ogra_> try: ubuntu-touch/ubuntu-rtm/devel-proposed
[14:22] <dobey> mardy: what error exactly? i'm confused how an error could create duplicate db entries for a script not being run, which creates those entries
[14:22] <ogra_> looks like http://system-image.ubuntu.com/channels.json defines it like that
[14:23] <popey> how odd
[14:23] <ogra_> does it work ?
[14:23] <mardy> dobey: I have no clue, but for sure the script was not being executed. Maybe it was a filesystem error, I don't know -- it didn't happen on my device
[14:23] <popey> dunno yet, rebooting
[14:24] <ogra_> well, i mean did u-d-f find it like that ?
[14:24] <popey> no, i mean, rebooting before i run it
[14:24] <ogra_> ah
[14:24] <mardy> dobey: it might be that he had an older version of the script in place
[14:24] <dobey> mardy: ok, well i don't want to spend hours trying to figure out what went wrong (or didn't)
[14:25] <popey> its downloading, lets see
[14:25] <dobey> mardy: would rather just have them in sync for now, so update the script to be in sync please
[14:25] <popey> version 207
[14:25] <popey> thanks ogra_
[14:25] <mardy> dobey: sure, your call
[14:25] <ogra_> yeah, that sounds like the right version
[14:26] <mardy> dobey: done
[14:29] <Aleksa> ogra_, thanks! I've read something. It looks like it is too hard for me at this moment and at this level of knowledge.
[14:29] <ogra_> it is definitely a quite advanced task
[14:29] <dobey> rvr: hey, can you try to add the card in pay-ui in vivid, with the new pay-ui? the browser seems to do the right thing there; but it breaks on RTM for me.
[14:29] <dobey> and woah, browser seems to no longer have tabs in vivid now
[14:29] <dobey> :(
[14:30] <Aleksa> One more question? Why don't producers release the kernel source code? Aren't they obligated with GNU GPL?
[14:30] <rvr> dobey: It has tabs
[14:30] <ogra_> dobey, bottom swipe magic ;)
[14:30] <rvr> dobey: Swipe from below
[14:30] <dobey> eww
[14:30] <rvr> dobey: I'll try to take a look to pay-ui
[14:30] <ogra_> Aleksa, they have to ... if you ask them for it
[14:31] <Aleksa> Is there any other source code I could ask them for?
[14:31] <Aleksa> Is the kernel only thing they are obligative to release?
[14:32] <ogra_> there might be some other android bits, not sure
[14:32] <dobey> Aleksa: they are only obligated to release the code for the parts that are GPL. if it's only the kernel, then they are only obligated by the kernel in that respect
[14:52] <ChloeWolfieGirl> I did a pretty bad april fools, but thought you guys might like it https://plus.google.com/+ChloeJohnson/posts/DaeS6TfQ4qb
[14:53] <kenvandine> robru, hey... so since that's a webapp it's really just downloading the image right?
[14:54] <kenvandine> when the download is done, it should popup a notification to open or dismiss
[14:54] <kenvandine> are you getting that?
[14:55] <kenvandine> robru, you should also be able to see the download in under files in the indicators
[14:59] <kenvandine> Elleo, i just forwarded you a mail about soonsnap. His webapp is showing the peer picker, but after selecting gallery it never seems to start the download
[14:59] <kenvandine> Elleo, could that be a problem in the webapp-container?
[15:00] <Elleo> kenvandine: I think it's missing a permission
[15:00] <kenvandine> ah
[15:00] <kenvandine> he has content_exchange
[15:00] <Elleo> kenvandine: https://github.com/robru/soonsnap.click/blob/master/click/soonsnap.json <-- should have content_exchange_source
[15:00] <kenvandine> what else?
[15:00] <kenvandine> it's not a source, in this case
[15:00] <kenvandine> this is receiving a photo
[15:01] <Elleo> kenvandine: the app is sending a file to the gallery isn't it?
[15:01] <kenvandine> yes
[15:01] <Elleo> kenvandine: yeah, pretty sure that requires the content_exchange_source permissions
[15:01] <kenvandine> but it isn't a source that provides a picker
[15:01] <Elleo> despite not being an exporter of things
[15:01] <kenvandine> so qml apps work without that
[15:01] <kenvandine> or at least did at one point :)
[15:02] <Elleo> kenvandine: just let me verify
[15:02] <Elleo> kenvandine: personally I'd rather see us just put everything in content_exchange and not have content_exchange_source at all
[15:02] <kenvandine> content_exchange_source should only be for apps providing an ImportExportHandler for exports
[15:03] <kenvandine> yeah, not sure why we even have that one
[15:05] <kenvandine> Elleo, that can't be it
[15:05] <kenvandine> there isn't really a difference between those policies
[15:08] <Elleo> kenvandine: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/10718755/
[15:08] <Elleo> kenvandine: content_exchange only gives access to path=/transfers/@{APP_ID_DBUS}/import/*
[15:08] <Elleo> kenvandine: and content_exchange_source only gives access to path=/transfers/@{APP_ID_DBUS}/export/*
[15:09] <kenvandine> oh, i missed that in my diff :)
[15:09] <kenvandine> oh... and for the download you need that?
[15:09] <Elleo> yeah
[15:09] <kenvandine> this wouldn't be a problem for a qml app
[15:09] <kenvandine> never needs access to that
[15:10] <kenvandine> Elleo, couldn't you make the downloader code handle the import dbus path?
[15:10] <kenvandine> oh
[15:10] <kenvandine> but it's also not importing
[15:11] <Elleo> yeah, a qml app would hit the same problem
[15:11] <kenvandine> so the import path will be gallery
[15:11] <Elleo> it's just that qml apps don't tend to use the download manager integration
[15:11] <kenvandine> no, it doesn't need access to that
[15:11] <kenvandine> right
[15:11] <Elleo> as they just download stuff themselves
[15:11] <kenvandine> it's just for the download manager
[15:11] <kenvandine> ok
[15:13] <kenvandine> robru, you need to add content_exchange_source policy
[15:17] <aquarius> mandel, does the DownloadManager know how to do ssh URLs?
[15:19] <seb128> ralsina, sorry, replied to rsalveti before, unity8 desktop-next is where users hit the issue most I think
[15:19] <ralsina> seb128: ah, makes sense
[15:20] <ralsina> anyway, the fix is on the way
[15:20] <seb128> ralsina, I saw, thanks
[15:23] <abeato> awe_, I have added a "Provisioning" section in https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/Telephony/
[15:23] <abeato> with a link to
[15:23] <abeato> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/Telephony/Retrieving_data_for_APN_DB
[15:24] <awe_> awesome!
[15:24] <abeato> sturmflut-work, already has created bug #1439272 , with a nicely formatted patch already ;)
[15:25] <seb128> so, on my bq rtm, I turned off wifi this morning because I wanted to try to connect to a website from a different ip that my dsl line one, I got a 3G icon but apps think I'm offline/there is no data (e.g in the webbrowser)
[15:25] <seb128> how do I report an useful bug about that?
[15:25] <seb128> awe_, ^ is that the issue you are working on?
[15:25] <awe_> seb128, more than one SIM?
[15:25] <seb128> awe_, yes, 2 SIMs, data on the second one
[15:25] <seb128> but that used to work afaik
[15:25] <awe_> seb128, can you double-check system settings to ensure that the right SIM is still selected for data?
[15:26] <awe_> https://bugs.launchpad.net/canonical-devices-system-image/+bug/1413672
[15:26] <mcphail> seb128: there's already a bug for that
[15:26] <awe_> also, if that looks OK seb128, please check 'ip route'
[15:26] <seb128> awe_, it is, I'm having that issue for some days, I usually get it to work by playing the apn screen
[15:27] <seb128> awe_, that returns nothing
[15:27] <awe_> ok, then you hit: https://bugs.launchpad.net/canonical-devices-system-image/+bug/1436427
[15:27] <awe_> it's a race condition with the closed-source rild component
[15:28] <awe_> but it's super hard to reproduce
[15:28] <seb128> awe_, ok, thanks ... did we regress on that?
[15:28] <awe_> seb128, if you could comment on the bug, that'd be super helpful
[15:28] <seb128> because it used to work fine until like a week ago
[15:28] <awe_> seb128, RTM or vivid?
[15:28] <seb128> awe_, doing so
[15:28] <seb128> awe_, rtm
[15:28] <awe_> right... it works 99.9% of the time
[15:28] <seb128> weird
[15:28] <awe_> I ran 500+ iterations over the weekend, and couldn't hit it
[15:28] <seb128> it constantly fail this week for me
[15:28] <awe_> could you add your syslog too?
[15:28] <seb128> accross reboots
[15:29] <seb128> I first though that the wrong apn was in use
[15:29] <seb128> playing in the apn screen makes it work
[15:29] <seb128> but maybe it's just by reconnecting
[15:29] <seb128> awe_, anything specific in the syslog?
[15:30] <awe_> if you want to do a grep for 'Network', that would help narrow things down, or just add the whole thing
[15:30] <mcphail> awe_: I've had no further episodes of the "turning off wifi" bug but several episodes of the "wandering away from wifi" bug. Do you thihk they are the same thing?
[15:31] <awe_> one sec.. in a meeting
[15:33] <seb128> awe_, done
[15:33] <seb128> don't we rotate syslog?
[15:33] <awe_> thanks seb128
[15:33] <awe_> ask ogra_
[15:33] <ogra_> seb128, we flush it at 50M
[15:33] <awe_> out of my domain
[15:33] <seb128> I added the log for the day, the whole file is 19M
[15:33] <seb128> k
[15:33] <seb128> ogra_, thanks
[15:34] <awe_> mcphail, so... the wandering away from WiFi bug that was reported by jibel was a DUP of the SIM for mobile data can change bug
[15:34] <awe_> mcphail, if you can reproduce the bug, and it's *not* the SIM for mobile-data can change bug, please report a new NM bug
[15:35] <awe_> I'm still going to be looking at this case however
[15:35] <mcphail> awe_: ok, cheers
[15:35] <awe_> thanks much!
[15:36] <seb128> awe_, can you point me to the "sim for mobile data can change"? or you mean just that the setting shows the wrong sim selected for data?
[15:36] <seb128> awe_, because I had the issue when walking away from wifi without turning it off, and settings config was correct
[15:36] <seb128> not sure if that's the same issue than when I turned wifi off today
[15:37] <awe_> so the SIM for mobile data can change bug describes two scenarios
[15:37] <awe_> (1) on reboot, the mobile data SIM can change
[15:38] <awe_> (2) when an operator change, or re-registration to an operator occurs, the SIM for mobile data can change
[15:38] <awe_> the system settings should reflect the change
[15:38] <awe_> but if you suspect this has happened to you, check the output from list-modems ( /usr/share/ofono/scripts )
[15:39] <awe_> we have a landing for RTM in progress for this bug
[15:39] <awe_> but no silo yet
[15:39] <awe_> seb128, https://bugs.launchpad.net/canonical-devices-system-image/+bug/1413672
[15:41] <mcphail> awe_: so am I right in saying when the connection drops it is because it has activated my empty sim slot?
[15:41] <awe_> mcphail, not necessarily
[15:41] <seb128> awe_, thanks
[15:41] <awe_> if you only have one SIM installed, you're probably not hitting this
[15:42] <awe_> abeato, ^^
[15:42] <mcphail> awe_: my symptoms were more like the original bug which is marked as a duplicate
[15:42] <awe_> is it possible to hit the mobile-data SIM switch if there's only one SIM installed?
[15:42] <abeato> awe_, mcphail, no, that's impossible
[15:42] <awe_> right
[15:43] <abeato> it is probably one of the NM issues
[15:43] <awe_> mcphail, BQ RTM?
[15:43] <mcphail> awe_: yes
[15:44] <awe_> if so, please file a bug, and include syslog, as well as output of /usr/share/ofono/scripts/list-modems and list-contexts.
[15:44] <awe_> fyi, the output of list-modems includes private info
[15:44] <mcphail> awe_: I don't think #1410113 should be marked as a duplicate and should be kept open
[15:44] <awe_> ( SubscriberIdentity, SubscriberNumbers )
[15:44] <awe_> well, that was a specific case that our QA opened
[15:45] <awe_> and was caused by the SIM switch bug
[15:45] <mcphail> awe_: ok - when I get data I'll open a new bug
[15:45] <awe_> thanks, much appreciated
[15:46] <awe_> I'm actually working on the OTA update, but these two scenarios are still important, and I will keep working on them
[15:46] <awe_> mcphail, does your network indicator show that you're connected to mobile data when you get outside of your AP's range ( eg. 2g/3g/H )?
[15:47] <mcphail> awe_: sometimes. The indicator can be buggy as well
[15:47] <awe_> it's *possible* this could be the same issue as the WiFi toggle bug if so
[15:47] <awe_> ack re: the indicator
[15:47] <awe_> there's a new version being tested right now for vivid-devel
[15:48] <mcphail> awe_: they seem very similar to me, but I haven't been getting the wifi toggle bug for 24h
[15:48] <awe_> mcphail, if you do have an indicator that shows 2g|3g|h
[15:48] <awe_> then please check the output of 'ip route'
[15:48] <awe_> if the table is empty, then it's the same bug as the toggle bug
[15:49] <mcphail> awe_: OK, will do
[16:02] <kenvandine> hey mpt
[16:02] <mpt> hello kenvandine
[16:03] <kenvandine> mpt, quick question, in my pin retries branch, i had to add a new string for the max retries reached, i wanted to make sure it was ok with you before landing
[16:03] <kenvandine> "Maximum retries reached"
[16:05] <mpt> kenvandine, how about “No more attempts allowed”? That would be a bit more direct
[16:05] <mpt> (cf. “Maximum pudding level reached” vs. “No more pudding for you”)
[16:05] <kenvandine> mpt, fine with me :)
[16:05] <kenvandine> haha
[16:21] <aquarius> When I get new-mail notifications on the phone for gmail, what creates those notifications? Is it the gmail webapp, or something in online-accounts? I'd like to find the source and improve the wording of the notification, but I don't know where it is
[16:27] <dobey> aquarius: if it's not an actual push notification from google's server, then i'd guess probably something in accounts-polld
[16:34] <sturmflut-work> !seen Wellark
[16:37] <sturmflut-work> Does anybody know where I can find Wellark? We always seem to miss each other despite living in nearly the same timezone
[16:40] <mandel> aquarius, not as it is, should it?
[16:41] <aquarius> mandel, well, I need an sftp app :) I'm not sure how it'll download big files... because it might get killed. This is what the downloadmanager is for, of course. But sftp might be too much of a corner case to bake it into the downloadmanager, especially given that it involves extra complexity
[16:41] <aquarius> I was hoping it was already done :P
[16:42] <sturmflut-work> aquarius: I think there should be enough interest in adding SFTP to the downloadmanager
[16:47] <aquarius> sturmflut-work, well, I'd certainly like it, but "Stuart wants it" is not enough of a reason for Canonical to invest in doing it :)
[16:49] <sturmflut-work> aquarius: you can always bribe mandel ;)
[16:50] <mandel> sturmflut-work, aquarius I need to work on the location-service first hehe but I'd love too, to be honest
[16:51] <aquarius> *nod* I shall attempt to learn enough go to do it, then :) I have managed to make a qml go app which connects to an ssh server and lists its files, just by copying example code (woo!) but I need to understand about keeping the connection alive, etc, etc
[16:53] <ogra_> just find the example code for that then ...
[16:53] <aquarius> ogra_, that's more about understanding the deal with threads and so on (e.g., working out what a "goroutine" is ;))
[16:54] <ogra_> :)
[16:54] <aquarius> the actual code to connect and retrieve a file is easy. How I do that without stuffing all the code to connect and fetch files inside the handler for a button click is the hard bit ;)
[16:54] <aquarius> that is: actually learning go :P
[16:56] <sturmflut-work> aquarius: https://i.imgur.com/P827Tsq.jpg
[16:56] <ogra_> i would bet you could just use a webview with the right magic stuffed into the QML that wraps it ,,,+
[16:56] <ogra_> oops, where does that garbage at the end of the sentence come from
[16:57] <aquarius> ogra_, you can't make ssh connections from qml, sadly. I thought of that. :)
[16:57] <ogra_> not from qml
[16:57] <ogra_> from the webview ;)
[16:57] <aquarius> hahahahahaha no
[16:57] <aquarius> webviews can't make arbitrary socket connections either, thank goodness, otherwise nobody would be safe :)
[16:57] <aquarius> sturmflut-work, ha!
[16:58] <sturmflut-work> aquarius: It was handed to me by Rainer Giepmann himself.
[17:00] * sturmflut-work is obviously some kind of VIP
[17:06] <dobey> sturmflut-work: wellark is generally around
[17:07] <sturmflut-work> dobey: then I need to hang around more!
[17:07] <dobey> aquarius, mandel: doesn't qt have some sort of vfs thingy that magically handles different protocols, like gio, or is that only at the kde level?
[17:07] <mandel> dobey, afaik is not a qt thing, but I need to check
[17:08] <sturmflut-work> dobey: I think you mean KDE's KIO-Slaves
[17:08] <dobey> i remember when i wrote a download manager for gnome like 12 years ago, and it just handled all that stuff through gnome-vfs.
[17:08] <dobey> sturmflut-work: maybe, but i thought at least some of that was in qt
[17:18] <sturmflut-work> DanChapman: Thanks for your hard work on Dekko, BTW. If you decide to make a paid version I'll buy it.
[17:19] <ogra_> +1
[17:22] <kenvandine> +1
[17:26] <kwah> hi, after 1st ever enabling of bluetooth and pairing it with car's hands-free, phone got disconnected and, moreover, it stays turned on... any ideas on how I can disable it?
[17:30] <pmcgowan> kwah, disconnect or forget the device in the BT settings
[17:31] <pmcgowan> kwah, or maybe I misunderstood your question
[17:53] <lotuspsychje> you guys saw this interview yet? http://www.mobileworldlive.com/interview-canonical-ceo
[17:54] <lotuspsychje> nice words for you devs :p
[17:55] <kwah> pmcgowan, there are no devices to disconnect/forget.
[17:56] <DanChapman> aquarius: you should take a look at these qml plugins SSH SFTP etc from qml https://github.com/bobweaver/QtPlugins there's some little qml gems in those packages
[17:57] <kwah> bluetooth enable/disable does not work from settings nor from notifications :(
[17:57] <aquarius> DanChapman, interesting! I will look. On the other hand, c++ and therefore complex compilation misery :)
[17:57] <DanChapman> sturmflut__: thanks :-) I was thinking of adding a donation page to the app rather than having a seperate "paid for" app
[17:58] <aquarius> DanChapman, this is exactly the sort of thing I invented the community component store to contain :) But I haven't had time to devote to making it happen
[17:58] <pmcgowan> kwah, why do you think it does not work? what do you see
[17:59] <kwah> pmcgowan, I see that it is enabled. I try to turn it off... after few seconds it shows me that it turned on.
[18:00] <kwah> and I don't want BT to be enabled all the time.
[18:03] <pmcgowan> kwah, the toggle in both the indicator and the settings page shows it enabled again? hmm
[18:03] <kwah> yep
[18:03] <ogra_> sounds like a bug
[18:03] <ogra_> stays disabled here
[18:04] <pmcgowan> this sound just like the diagnsotic reports issue
[18:04] <pmcgowan> something in the set of writeable files got undone?
[18:04] <pmcgowan> stays disabled for me too of course
[18:04] <kwah> HW/SW: bq 4.5, r20 image, stable
[18:05] <pmcgowan> is cyphermox around, any ideas?
[18:08] <kwah> could some service end-up in strange state?
[18:08] <DanChapman> aquarius: I'm starting to think you just don't like c++ ;-p but yes these would be awesome to have in the component store
[18:09] <DanChapman> https://plus.google.com/u/0/+JosephMills/posts/j3heYwVi69g gives a nice overview of each
[18:09] <kwah> it happened upon pairing to car's hands-free. it managed to pair and even sync contacts. then got disconnected, have no idea from which side...
[18:10] <pmcgowan> kwah, its possible that some backend went away, have you rebooted the device?
[18:10] <kwah> pmcgowan, not yet.
[18:11] <pmcgowan> kwah, that may be it, if it works would be good to debug why the backend died
[18:12] <kwah> how may I check if something died?
[18:14] <kwah> pmcgowan, and if on the phone backend for some service dies I would expect it to be restarted auto-magically one way or the other :D
[18:19] <pmcgowan> kwah, as would I
[18:19] <pmcgowan> kwah,you can check /var/crash for any files
[18:20] <kwah> pmcgowan, something is definitely dead. the only active control in BT settings is enable/disable switch
[18:21] <pmcgowan> hmm
[18:22] <kwah> pmcgowan, hm. from terminal I see bluetoothd.0.crash
[18:22] <pmcgowan> what a coincidence
[18:22] <pmcgowan> kwah, can you enter a launchpad bug and upload it there?
[18:23] <kwah> .upload and .uploaded also with bluetoothd.0 prefix
[18:23] <kwah> pmcgowan, are there instructions on a simple ways to get those from the phone?
[18:24] <kwah> sorry, my first few days with ubuntu powered phone...
[18:24] <pmcgowan> kwah, ah so what we need is the whoopise number if it uploaded
[18:25] <pmcgowan> hmm how to do that easily ogra_
[18:29] * rsalveti reads
[18:30] <rsalveti> kwah: do you see a bluetoothd.0.uploaded as well?
[18:30] <rsalveti> hm, nothing in errors.ubuntu.com
[18:31] <pmcgowan> may not be on the network
[18:33] <rsalveti> kwah: otherwise if you could open a bug and upload that crash file it should already hep
[18:33] <rsalveti> but that's probably why it's failing to enable/disable the switch
[18:35] <rsalveti> sorry, just saw you said you had .uploaded as well
[18:36] <rsalveti> ev: maybe you know, how to trace back a crash upload with the trace in errors.ubuntu.com?
[18:36] <cyphermox> pmcgowan: what's this about?
[18:37] <rsalveti> bluez crashed
[18:37] <cyphermox> ok
[18:42] <pmcgowan> kwah, anyway go ahead and reboot and try disabling again
[18:43] <kwah> pmcgowan, crash info will survive reboot? or is it better to get hands on it first?
[18:44] <kwah> pmcgowan, is there something like apport available for phones as well?
[18:44] <brunch875> there is!
[18:44] <pmcgowan> kwah, yes the crash was uploaded already
[18:44] <pmcgowan> if we can find it on the server
[18:44] <pmcgowan> kwah, you can safely reboot
[18:46] <kwah> pmcgowan, aha. ok then... rebooting.
[18:49] <kwah> pmcgowan, hm. and it hanged.
[18:50] <kwah> reboot I meant. anyway, power-cycling now.
[18:53] <kwah> pmcgowan, done. seems to be working now. thank you for your help.
[18:54] <pmcgowan> kwah, sorry for the troubles, we will find that crash and look into it
[19:01] <kwah> pmcgowan, it is ok. keep up good job. I'll see how consistent it is, maybe you will get more of similar crashes.
[19:01] <kwah> ;)
[19:02] <pmcgowan> thanks
[19:04] <taiebot> How do I adb push something to root it always says permission denied?
[19:04] <brunch875> you mean to phone's root?
[19:04] <brunch875> you can't, it's read-write only
[19:04] <brunch875> readonly*
[19:04] <brunch875> you can make it read-write but I wouldn't recommend it
[19:05] <brunch875> what exactly are you trying to push to root and for what reason?
[19:05] <taiebot> brunch Yep trying to modify logrotate config file
[19:06] <taiebot> brunch875: my syslog is stucked since July. Tried reflashing today with no success
[19:07] <brunch875> I have no idea on how the phone handles that stuff
[19:07] <taiebot> brunch875 Found the config file in /etc/logrotate.d/
[19:08] <brunch875> what I know is anything belonging to root is read-only
[19:08] <brunch875> and for the average user, the phone should stay that way
[19:09] <popey> +1
[19:09] <pcctw> hi
[19:09] <taiebot> brunch875 got it but want to try a fix before making it a bug
[19:10] <pcctw> can I make my own ringtone in ubuntu touch?
[19:11] <pcctw> i mean i got mp3 but don't know how to move it to ringtones
[19:11] <nakanut> Good evening all. I am well impressed with my phone. Is there a chance of getting the Today scope to auto-refresh so it shows the correct date?
[19:16] <nakanut> Also does the touch image have cups printer backend, or is this being worked on?
[19:17] <popey> cwayne: any ETA on when https://bugs.launchpad.net/today-scope will be setup so nakanut can file bugs :)
[19:17] <popey> nakanut: no cups yet, it will do in the future I believe
[19:19] <nakanut> @popey thx for that Al.
[19:19] <popey> np
[19:20] <brunch875> I wish for the future for a gesture which sends current app to run on the background
[19:20] <brunch875> so I can wait for wget to finish while doing other stuff
[19:39] <dobey> taiebot: mount -o remount,rw /
[19:40] <dobey> taiebot: then change the logrotate.conf, and reboot
[19:44] <taiebot> dobey: Just found a way thanks not sure it will work...
[19:57] <sturmflut__> DanChapman: You could do both, add a Donation page and have a paid version. Gives us more possibilities to give you our money.
[20:00] <dobey> sturmflut: a donate page inside a paid app feels weird though
[20:01] <cwayne> popey, done :)
[20:01] <sturmflut> dobey: Haha, no, I didn't mean it like that
[20:01] <popey> thanks cwayne
[20:01] <dobey> plus, money is hard
[20:02] <sturmflut> dobey: He could add a donation page to the website, link to that donation page from within the free app, and have a paid app all at the same time.
[20:03] <dobey> sturmflut: sure, but that's even more work, for basically no gain
[20:04] <cwayne> popey, no problemo
[20:06] <kwah> pmcgowan, did another try -> the same result. no new crash though (maybe have not arrived, yet) but symptoms are the same. So for me BT is pretty useless now :(
[20:07] <sturmflut> dobey: Well, it won't make anyone rich, but on the other hand mhall119 proved that it is possible to make a bit of money. The minimum amount for a paid app is 2.49, so you just need about 75 people to pay for the bq Aquaris E4.5 phone you bought to develop the app.
[20:07] <sturmflut> dobey: Just my thoughts though.
[20:07] <pmcgowan> kwah, once there is a crash it will not create another for the same issue
[20:07] <pmcgowan> kwah, can you enter a bug with the details?
[20:08] <pmcgowan> you can file one here and we can task the bluez packages as needed https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubuntu-system-settings
[20:09] <kwah> pmcgowan, will do. can i refer to existing uploaded crash-info somehow?
[20:10] <pmcgowan> kwah, not sure how frankly, but we can likely do that
[20:12] <dobey> sturmflut: sure, but i don't think he has a donation page. and the paid version is the "in development" version, with the stable release being free
[20:14] <_1_> eow
[20:25] <kwah> pmcgowan, filed. bug:1439377
[20:26] <pmcgowan> awesome thanks
[20:26] <kwah> may you check if there is enough info?
[20:26] <kwah> have some spare time now...
[20:26] <taiebot> dobey: mm at the end ending up deleting the syslog file in /var/log and recreated a file and now it works.
[20:28] <pmcgowan> bug #1439377
[20:30] <pmcgowan> kwah, can you add info about the specific handsfree device you paired, and did you sync contacts in both cases?
[20:32] <kwah> pmcgowan, hm, how can I find out this info? handsfree is built-in into car system. I will check manual, but 95% that there is no info about it there.
[20:33] <pmcgowan> kwah, ok just say which car it is, we have several such reports
[20:34] <pmcgowan> if you don't mind
[20:34] <kwah> pmcgowan, and if I remember correctly (from Android/Cyanogenmod powered Galaxy S2 times) sync of contacts and other phone info is done every time I was connecting phone
[20:35] <pmcgowan> kwah, yes it does
[20:38] <kwah> pmcgowan, SKODA_BT it is. If I will have more info I'll update bug-report...
[20:39] <pmcgowan> kwah, can you do sudo grep "OOPS ID" /var/log/upstart/whoopsie.log and add that to the report
[20:41] <kwah> pmcgowan, hm. for that I need some help. can you point me on where to read for connecting device/getting to it (ssh/other means?)
[20:43] <pmcgowan> kwah, this page shows how to get the tools which allow you to connect https://developer.ubuntu.com/en/start/ubuntu-for-devices/installing-ubuntu-for-devices/
[20:44] <pmcgowan> kwah, you could also issue that from the terminal app but the id is likely quite long
[21:01] <Traintop> Hi Folks! -I have a Thinkpad X61T and a script to rotate the screen and would like to bind it to the dedicated button on the tablet, but ubuntu will always activate the screensaver even if I add a custum key-binding to my script.... -any ideas where I could "delete" this binding to the screensaver?
[21:01] <kwah> pmcgowan, done :)
[21:04] <pmcgowan> kwah, great! welcome aboard
[21:14] <dobey> k1l_: around?
[21:15] <k1l_> yep
[21:34] <sturmflut> Traintop: Which key is it exactly? Sounds like it is bound to the screen lock by default.
[21:36] <PartNAS> is it possible to dualboot another distro on ubuntu phone?
[21:36] <brunch875> I've heard someone dual boot android
[21:37] <PartNAS> can ubuntu touch be installed on other devices?
[21:37] <sturmflut> PartNAS: There's MultiROM to dual-boot Android and Ubuntu. Which other distribution do you have in mind?
[21:37] <sturmflut> PartNAS: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/Devices
[21:38] <PartNAS> kali
[21:40] <Traintop> sturmflut: yeah I also think that's the thing: the key is named "XF86TouchpadToggle" in ubuntu
[21:41] <brunch875> terminal has nano hotkeys
[21:41] <brunch875> but not vim ones??!
[21:41] * brunch875 cracks his knuckles
[21:41] <aquarius> Traintop, start "Keyboard" from the Dash and then look in Shortcuts under System and see if there's a key set to "Lock screen"; if there is and it's that key, you should be able to change it.
[21:43] <sturmflut> PartNAS: You can probably try to put a Kali chroot on an Ubuntu Phone, since Kali is based on Debian and there is an armhf port. But I don't know if all the tools can handle an Android kernel and Android hardware drivers
[21:44] <Traintop> aquarius: that's where I looked first; tried again there: there are no "System"-keybindings with the same keyname
[21:44] <sturmflut> PartNAS: On the other hand you might go for Kali NetHunter, which runs on Nexus devices. Maybe that one can even be dual-booted with Ubuntu on a Nexus 4. I never tried.
[21:44] <aquarius> Traintop, ah, I didn't realise you'd already tried there, sorry!
[21:45] <PartNAS> sound good
[21:45] <Traintop> aquarius: :-)
[21:46] <Traintop> it's just that even if I add a "custom"keybinding for this button; the default-binding is always used... -I wonder where I could "delete" that binding as I do not need it
[21:47] <brunch875> I only just now realized there's MTP
[21:47] <Traintop> and just for interest: this is the problem with all 3 tablet-buttons on the x61t here on ubuntu
[21:47] <brunch875> so far I've been using adb push / pull to transfer files
[21:48] <sturmflut> Traintop: It sounds somewhat strange that a key with the name "TouchPadToggle" locks the screen. But I never really understood key handling in X11 and how key bindings work, so you might want to file a bug.
[21:48] <PartNAS> would kali run on a Wiko Rainbow ?
[21:49] <PartNAS> its mediatech
[21:49] <sturmflut> PartNAS: No idea. The guys on #kali-linux surely know.
[21:50] <PartNAS> and ubuntu?
[21:50] <PartNAS> if it runs on aquaris thats also media tech
[21:50] <PartNAS> Mediatek MT6582
[21:50] <PartNAS> Quad Core 1,3GHz
[21:51] <Traintop> sturmflut: sorry, this is the same problem with the 3 tablet-buttons on this machine; XF86TouchpadToggle, toggles the Tocuhpas of course if I had one... -the button I want to use activates the Screensave and is named "Screensaver"... -sorry
[21:52] <Traintop> but the underlying problem is the same; these bindings are defined somewhere and I can't find it... -damn
[21:52] <sturmflut> PartNAS: It's the same SoC, yes, so porting Ubuntu to the Wiko Rainbow might be less work.
[21:53] <PartNAS> and it like 50 cheaper
[21:54] <sturmflut> Traintop: I did not know that there actually is an XF86ScreenSaver button. Interesting.
[21:54] <PartNAS> 139,90 € vs 179,90 €
[21:54] <PartNAS> http://www.fnac.pt/Wiko-Rainbow-Noir-Telemovel-Telemovel/a786732
[21:55] <Traintop> sturmflut: no this one is called "Screensaver" in the ubuntu-gui, the one with the touchpad-functionality is called "XF86TouchpadToggle"
[21:55] <Traintop> googled for the latter but didn't find anything interesting
[21:56] <PartNAS> and wiko is 5` vs 4.5´
[21:57] <Traintop> this is what this looks like in real: http://www.tabletpcreview.com/picture.asp?f=3104
[21:57] <PartNAS> the gpu isnt the same
[21:58] <Traintop> the button above the led for the ac is intended to be used as a rotate-button; and in ubuntu it is named "XF86TouchpadToggle" but the other 2 doesn't work either
[21:58] <sturmflut> PartNAS: Hmm, the Wiko has just 4 GB of internal flash. Isn't 8 GB the minimum for everything nowadays?
[22:00] <sturmflut> Traintop: I think you should file a bug.
[22:01] <Traintop> sturmflut: thanks for the help; but it is getting late here; bed waits... a bientot
[22:01] <sturmflut> Traintop: We are in the same timezone, it's late here too ;)
[22:02] <sturmflut> Traintop: Good night
[22:02] <Traintop> before coming back to irc I will try on my linux-from-scratch; just curios if this binding is in the standard X-Server or an ubuntu-thing... -good night
[22:02] <PartNAS> sturmflut:but cant you use sd card?
[22:04] <sturmflut> PartNAS: Yes, but usually not for the operating system itself.
[22:05] <sturmflut> PartNAS: MultiROM seems to be able to boot from SD, though. I just noticed.
[22:06] <PartNAS> in ubuntu all installed programs go to the OS?
[22:06] <PartNAS> thats seem to be the best
[22:06] <PartNAS> so i can dualboot
[23:34] <mdolezel> how possible is it to have x86 based device running ubuntu touch?
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[08:58] <alan_g> duflu: your "Needs Info" answered? https://code.launchpad.net/~alan-griffiths/mir/death-to-SurfaceConfigurator/+merge/254796
[08:59] * duflu looks
[08:59] <duflu> alan_g: Approved
[08:59] <alan_g> thanks
[09:04] <duflu> 2015 might be the year I start using C99 for everything instead of C89
[09:05] <duflu> Although that might have happened in 2010
[09:05] <duflu> Hmm
[10:01] <greyback> where can I find the instructions for the proving shell? i.e. how to resize something
[10:02] <alan_g> greyback: Alt+middle button
[10:03] <greyback> bah, no middle button on my trackpad
[10:03] <greyback> alan_g: thanks
[10:11] <alan_g> greyback: three finger gesture?
[10:16] <greyback> alan_g: perfect, ta
[10:18] <duflu> greyback: For the latest: http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~mir-team/mir/development-branch/view/head:/doc/demo_shell_controls.md
[10:19] <duflu> If anything works with multi-touch-pads, that's partly by accident. Mir doesn't really know about touchpads directly
[10:19] <greyback> duflu: still here? (thanks for the link, always fail to locate that file)
[10:19] <duflu> greyback: Off to make dinner now
[10:19] <greyback> duflu: fair enough, bon appetit
[14:45] <MacSlow> alan_g, greyback: I've sent you an email with the unity8.logs of the (mir-)failures I see (and a comparison for non-failure) in the hope you'll be able to find anything odd that might help in my search for the culprit of the crash.
[14:46] <greyback> MacSlow: did you ascertain if unity8 crashes or not?
[14:47] <greyback> if it does, why not attach gdb with "gdb -p `pidof unity8`"
[14:47] <greyback> that should give you a stacktrace when it crashes
[14:48] <MacSlow> greyback, didn't manage to catch it yet that way
[14:48] <MacSlow> greyback, so I assumed there has to be another way
[14:52] <greyback> MacSlow: none that I know of. Could set any coredump to end up in your $HOME with:
[14:52] <greyback> sudo bash -c 'echo "$HOME/core.%e.%p" > /proc/sys/kernel/core_pattern' && ulimit -c unlimited
[14:57] <MacSlow> greyback, *sigh* when I want it to crash it doesn't :)
[14:57] <MacSlow> greyback, no core file
[15:05] <greyback> MacSlow: can you watch "ps ax" to see if unity8 is indeed restarting?
[15:05] <MacSlow> greyback, one sec...
[15:10] <MacSlow> greyback, no... on /lib/modules is 99% full all other partitions provide still enough free storage
[15:11] <greyback> MacSlow: so unity8 is not restarting during the test case. ok
[15:12] <MacSlow> greyback, I don't get any core dump files... but /var/crash gets some files...
[15:12] <MacSlow> but these are prefixed with _usr_bin_unity8 which is not what I would expect from the AP-test...
[15:12] <MacSlow> as it should run the local unity8 from the source-tree
[15:13] <greyback> MacSlow: I didn't think AP did that
[15:13] <greyback> but I'm not certain
[15:13] <MacSlow> greyback, what start local unity8 or dump to /var/crash ?
[15:13] <greyback> MacSlow: from local unity8
[15:14] <greyback> again, I'm unsure
[15:14] <MacSlow> greyback, I hope you're wrong... otherwise I've been wasting some time
[15:16] <greyback> well it's easy to verify
[15:20] <MacSlow> greyback, just moved /usr/bin/untiy8 and re-ran the AP-test... still works
[15:20] <greyback> MacSlow: ok good
[15:20] <MacSlow> greyback, I would have been very surprised, if that would not have worked
[15:24] <MacSlow> greyback, it failed but did not produce any core or crash-file (in /var/crash)
[15:24] <greyback> MacSlow: ok, it's not a crash, good
[15:25] <MacSlow> I've /usr/bin/unity8 still moved aside
[15:28] <MacSlow> greyback, I wonder if the issue is a DBus one... looking at the failure-output there's an error from DBus right after the autopilot process-helper reported unity8 started/running...
[15:34] <greyback> MacSlow: DBusException: org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.NoReply: Message did not receive a reply (timeout by message bus) <- that does indicate to me AP asked something of unity8, but unity8 has not replied
[15:35] <greyback> does the UI lock up?
[15:36] <greyback> but we're in "launch_unity"
[15:37] <greyback> so unity8 is being launched, but AP unable to contact it on the bus
[15:38] <greyback> "Unable to register object on D-Bus! Testability interface will not be available."
[15:38] <greyback> ok that's a problem
[15:38] <greyback> next question is _why_ it's unable to register on the bus
[15:38] <greyback> is there a previous unity8 instance still alive?
[15:38] <MacSlow> greyback, you see the question-marks above my head get bigger and bigger
[15:39] <MacSlow> greyback, it should not... but let me try soemthing else...
[15:39] <greyback> MacSlow: dbus-monitor show you useful info?
[15:40] <greyback> Testability driver loaded. Wire protocol version is "1.4".
[15:40] <greyback> Testability driver loaded. Wire protocol version is "1.4".
[15:40] <greyback> Unable to register object on D-Bus! Testability interface will not be available.
[15:40] <greyback> why the first line printed twice?
[15:40] <greyback> is hte testability plugin being loaded twice somehow?
[15:40] <greyback> and the second time it fails, as the first time succeeded
[15:41] <greyback> dbus is available, as the clipboard registers ok
[15:41] <MacSlow> greyback, dbus-monitor dumps too much...
[15:42] <greyback> "Signal caught by Mir, stopping Mir server.."
[15:42] <greyback> this log is full of oddness
[15:44] <MacSlow> greyback, one of the AP-folks is currently also looking over this... I hope he's able to make more sense of this
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2015-04-01-#ubuntu-ko
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[00:01] <AutoWiZ_> 안녕하세요... ㅠㅠ 안녕하지 못한 오즈군 입니다 ㅠㅠ
[00:01] <Work^Seony> 안녕하세요
[00:02] <AutoWiZ_> 액트님 하이요~
[00:02] <AutoWiZ_> 저... 진통제 라는것이 작용하는 부위별로 따로 있을까요?
[00:04] <ready^T420> 특정부위만요?
[00:04] <ready^T420> 먹는거죠?
[00:04] <ready^T420> 복용
[00:04] <AutoWiZ_> 예 먹는거지요
[00:04] <Work^Seony> 그런게 나오면 노벨상 탈거 같은데요 ㅎㅎ
[00:04] <ready^T420> -_-ㅋ 그렇진 않을것 같은데요.. 제가 복용해 본바로는
[00:04] <AutoWiZ_> 고등학교때 부터 그랬던거 같은데 어깨가 오늘은 너무 아프네요
[00:05] <ready^T420> 혹시
[00:05] <Work^Seony> 어디 잡귀가 하나 붙었군요
[00:05] <AutoWiZ_> 그냥 바로 뇌의 통증 감지 기관을 마비시키는걸까요?
[00:05] <ready^T420> 정형외과 함 가보셨나요?
[00:05] <AutoWiZ_> 동내 병원에서는 진단이 안나오더군요 정상이라고 ㅋ
[00:05] <ready^T420> 어깨가 문제가 아닐 수도 있어요
[00:05] <ready^T420> 다른데가 아파서 어깨가 아픈걸 수도
[00:05] <Work^Seony> 잡귀 붙은 거에요 ㅋㅋ
[00:06] <AutoWiZ_> 이게 설명이 잘 안되는데 어깨 안쪽 뼈가 아픈 느낌...
[00:06] <Work^Seony> 저는 나이 먹었나봐요. 어제 새벽 2시 반까지 컴퓨터 좀 했다고 오늘 완전 목이 갔어요.
[00:06] <AutoWiZ_> 아이고 피곤하시겠어요
[00:06] <Work^Seony> 그렇게 피곤한거 같진 않은데, 목이 완전 가버렸어요
[00:07] <Work^Seony> 나이 먹어가나봐요
[00:07] <AutoWiZ_> 그러니까 ㅎㅎ 그게 가끔 그냥 잠만 잤는데도 그럴 수 도 있다고 생각합니다.
[00:08] <AutoWiZ_> 굳이 나이먹어서라고 생각하시는건 성급한 일반화의 오류를 범하시는걸지도 ㅎㅎㅎㅎ
[00:08] <Work^Seony> 제가 원래 나름 목이 튼튼한 편이어서, 목이 쉬거나 하는 일이 없었거든요
[00:08] <Work^Seony> 요 근래부터 그러네요
[00:09] <AutoWiZ_> 그건 ... 지구 온난화의 영향입니다.
[00:09] <Work^Seony> ㅎㅎ 그런거였군요
[00:09] <AutoWiZ_> 하와이 기온이 0.01 도 올라서 그렇게 된거지요 ^_____^
[00:10] <Work^Seony> 안그래도 요즘 점점 더워지고 있어요
[00:11] <ready^T420> 음..
[00:13] <AutoWiZ_> 액트님 다른데가 아플 수 도 있다는게 혹시 경험이 있으셔서 말씀해주신건지요?
[00:13] <AutoWiZ_> 궁금 .. 궁금 .. ?? ^_^\
[00:15] <AutoWiZ_> http://blog.naver.com/revivemenu/220261347187
[00:15] <Work^Seony> 제 와이프 쪽 집안을 얘기해드리자면,
[00:15] <razGon_MINILA> 오즈님.
[00:15] <Work^Seony> 장인어른이 허리디스크가 있거든요.
[00:15] <Work^Seony> 와이프 말을 들어보면, 허리디스크가 허리가 아픈게 아니라네요
[00:16] <razGon_MINILA> 밤에 많이 아프셧죠? 날씨지나가면 되요.
[00:16] <razGon_MINILA> ㅇㅇ
[00:16] <razGon_MINILA> 허리에서 나오는 신경부위에 통증.
[00:16] <AutoWiZ_> 고양이가 없어졌네요. 진통제 성분별로 정리해놓은거 같은데 저거보니 , 그냥 아파도 진통제 안먹고 참아야겠어요
[00:16] <AutoWiZ_> 아 ... 습해서 그런거군요 ㅋㅋ
[00:16] <razGon_MINILA> 진통제 조금 먹어요.
[00:17] <razGon_MINILA> 습하다기 보다는 기압과 관련있습니다.
[00:17] <AutoWiZ_> 디스크 오면 다리부터 발 까지 신경이 눌려서 아프다고 들었던거 같아요
[00:18] <AutoWiZ_> 아 정상 기압인곳으로 여행가야겠어요 지금 일상생활이 불가능할 정도로 아파서
[00:18] <razGon_MINILA> 비오는날은 저기압이 되는데 어깨통증을 일으키는 subacromial or subdeltoid bursa가 확장되ㅣ서 이미 염증이 존재하는 환자에서 통증이 더 도드라지게 오죠.
[00:18] <razGon_MINILA> 지금 어디세요? 미쿡?
[00:18] <AutoWiZ_> 지금 서울이요 ㅎㅎ
[00:18] <AutoWiZ_> 3면이 바다라 어디 갈 수 가 없네요
[00:18] <razGon_MINILA> 서울이면 치료 받으세요..
[00:19] <razGon_MINILA> ㅋㅋㅋ
[00:19] <razGon_MINILA> 주사 한방이면 좋아지고요. 원인치료 하면 재발도 줄일수 있습니다. ㅋ
[00:19] <AutoWiZ_> 아 그래요? ㅠㅠㅠㅠ 병원 한번 다시 가봐야겠네요
[00:20] <AutoWiZ_> 뭐 정도에 따라 다르겠지만 , 얼마나 걸릴까요? 입원해야 할까요?
[00:22] <AutoWiZ_> 이게 어깨 움직임하고는 전혀 상관없이 그냥 막 아프네요 ...
[00:22] <AutoWiZ_> 라즈곤님 감사합니다. 치료 희망을 가지고 병원 한번 가봐야겠어요.
[00:23] <jun__> 안녕하세요~~~봄비가 그치고... 좀 쌀랑해지나 했더니 더운 수요일입니다...ㅎㅎㅎ
[00:24] <AutoWiZ_> 안녕하세요 봄 비 해치고 출근한 오즈 입니다.
[00:31] <AutoWiZ_> 제가 전에 ZNC 써도 클라이언트 사용자 만큼 IRC 상에 보인다는 의미로 말을 했었는데
[00:31] <AutoWiZ_> 제가 잘못봤던거네요...
[00:38] <AutoWiZ_> 제 PC 1 , 2 가 znc 통해서 freenode 들어오니까 znc 통한거 하나만 보이네요 .
[01:27] <Dracokr> 저도 핸드폰과 타블렛으로 동시 접속중입니다
[01:27] <Dracokr> znc로
[01:27] <autowiz__> 드라코님 오랜만에 뵙습니다.
[01:28] <Work^Seony> irccloud도 동시 접속 다 되는데, 오히려 그게 더 나은거 같아요 ㅎㅎ
[01:28] <Dracokr> 네. 안녕하세요
[01:28] <autowiz__> 네 그리고 ZNC 가 좋은게 , 별도로 프로그램 없이 그냥 irc 클라이언트 아무거나 있음 된다는거
[01:28] <Dracokr> 전 그냥 개인서버에 뭐 돌려볼까 하고 깐건데 편리하네요 ㅋㅋㅋ
[01:28] <autowiz__> irccloud 도 웹브라우저면 있으면 되서 좋지요
[01:30] <autowiz__> 어짜피 메시지 로그가 우분투 로그 서버에 남기는 하지만 irccloud 서버를 거치기는 싫다는 ...
[01:30] <Dracokr> 사실 폰에다 irc깔면 와이파이랑 네트워크 전환되거나 전화할때마다 연결 끊어졋다 답시 접속햇다...난리라서 irc 안했거든요
[01:30] <autowiz__> 이런 쓸대 없는 본능 때문에 znc 로 ㅎㅎ
[01:57] <Dracokr> 만우절인데 심심하네요 ㅋㅋ
[01:58] <autowiz__> 저는 아침에 라디오 듣는데 , 편성표 변경 된다고 DJ 가 농담해서 살짝 웃었습니다. ㅎㅎ
[02:09] <autowiz__> http://news.danawa.com/News_List_View.php?&nSeq=2881796
[02:10] <autowiz__> 순금 키보드 라네요 헐~
[02:10] <autowiz__> 설마 이거 만우절 이벤트 일려나요?
[02:12] <Work^Seony> 가격이 1700만원인거 보면, 만우절 이벤트는 아닌거 같아요 ㅋ
[02:13] <autowiz__> 저건 뭐 키캡이 빠지지않게 특수하게 만들어야 하지 않을까요? ㅎㅎ
[02:13] <autowiz__> 한개만 빼도 60만원은 할꺼 같은데요 ㅋㅋ
[02:14] <Work^Seony> 금박을 하지않고 키 하나하나를 전부 다 24k로 채웠으면 개당 그 가격쯤 하죠 ㅎㅎ
[02:17] <autowiz__> 동영상 보면 남자 하나 나와서 타이핑 테스트 하는데 ㅅㅄㅄㅄㅄㅄㅂ 하고 18181818 만 반복 합니다 ㅋㅋ
[02:38] <Work^Seony> 오늘은 몸도 피곤하고 목도 쉬었으니, 퇴근해서 게임 좀 하다가 일찍 자야겠습니다.
[02:38] <Work^Seony> 내일 뵈요
[02:43] <autowiz__> 수고하셨습니다.
[02:44] <autowiz__> 내일은 목이 정상으로 돌아와 있길 소망하겠사옵니다. ^^
[03:58] <ZNC_autowiz> 어라? 14.04.2 가 나왔네요
[04:03] <ZNC_autowiz> 12.04.5 도 있네요 ㅋ
[04:24] <Seony> 다음뉴스에, 댓글이 14,000개나 달리는 기사는 처음 보네요
[04:35] <ZNC_autowiz> 어떤 기사에요??
[04:35] <Seony> http://media.daum.net/society/all/newsview?newsid=20150331142626364&RIGHT_REPLY=R33
[04:45] <Dracokr> ㅋㅋ
[04:45] <Seony> 보통 댓글이 천개 정도 달리면 어마어마하게 "난리난" 뉴스라고 보거든요 ㅎㅎ
[04:45] <Dracokr> 욕먹는 정치인들 많은데 굳이 거기 끼느라 고생하는 도지사
[05:15] <Seony> 오유에 어떤 인터뷰 글이 올라왔는데, 경남에서는 무상급식이 중단된 것도 모자라서 아예 도시락 싸오는 것도 안된다는데요 ㅎㅎ
[05:36] <ZNC_autowiz> 어이가 없는 일들이 참 많이도 일어나네요 ㅠㅠ
[05:37] <Seony> 만우절 게임회사 출근길이라네요 ㅋㅋ
[05:37] <Seony> http://www.todayhumor.co.kr/board/view.php?table=bestofbest&no=201823&s_no=201823&page=1
[09:24] <ZNC_autowiz> 오후에는 거의 대화가 없었네요 ㅎㅎ
[10:47] <ghg_> 안녕하세요
[10:48] <ghg_> 저기 우분투 한국 위키 사이트가 안열리는거같아요....wiki.ubuntu-ko.org/ 여기 맞는거같은데 말이죠....
[10:57] <ZNC_autowiz> 일단 지금은 접속 되네요
[10:59] <PotatoGim> 네, 접속되는 것 같군요.
[11:10] <seyeongkim> wiki.ubuntu-ko.org
[11:10] <seyeongkim> 앗 죄송합니다..
[11:12] <seyeongkim> 음 저는 skt 라인인데 접속이 안되는거 같네용
[11:13] <pchero_work> 접속 잘 됩니다. ㅎㅎ
[11:46] <Dracokr> Kt인데 안열려요
[11:46] <ghg_> 전 sk인데 안열려요
[11:46] <ghg_> 저 핸드폰도 kt인데 안열리고요
[11:47] <ghg_> 7시즈음에 잠시 열렸나요? 하하......
[11:50] <seyeongkim> zenmate 통해서 접근하니 되네요 라인관련 어딘가 문제가 있는듯...
[12:23] <samahui_TPC> 헬쥐 라인인데 아까는 접속되더니 지금은 안되네요
[12:24] <razgon_> 안녕하세요?
[12:24] <razgon_> razGon_MBP
[12:24] <samahui_TPC> 안녕하세요~~~
[12:24] <razgon_> ㅎㅎㅎ
[12:28] <razgon_> samahui_TPC, 우리의 한화가 지고 있습니다.ㅠ
[12:34] <razgon_> 라즈베리파이2 괜찮은지요?
[13:07] <hyoungmin> 안녕하세요
[13:32] <hyoungmin> 안녕하세요
[13:34] <razgon_> 안녕하세요?
[13:35] <pchero_work> 안녕하세요? ㅎ
[13:56] <samahui_TPC> 라즈베리파이 2는 1보다는 쓸만합니다만 아직은 일반적으로 쓰기보다는 특화된 용도에 알맞죠
[13:57] <samahui_TPC> 한화는 끝내 졌나보군요 ㅜㅜ
[13:57] <samahui_TPC> 포수를 바꿔야되요
[14:04] <hyoungmin> ㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋ
[14:05] <hyoungmin> 저는 핼지 포기렵니다
[14:05] <hyoungmin> 저도 빨리 라즈베리 갈아타야 하는데...
[14:07] <hyoungmin> 여러분 우다시티나 코세라에서 c 언어 오픈소스 들으려는데 추천해실만한 강좌있나요? nanodgree 인정돼는거요 너무 비싼거 말고요 ㅜ 우다시티 한달에 200달러 너무 비싸요ㅜ
[15:24] <samahui_WS> 졸음이 밀려와야 하는 시간에는 멀쩡하군요
[15:24] <samahui_WS> ㅎㅎ
[15:36] <razgon_> samahui_WS, 와우!!
[15:36] <razgon_> 대단..ㅋ
[15:36] <razgon_> 한화는 포수 조인성인데. 부상이라서 삐걱이죠.ㅋ
[15:53] <samahui_WS> 방금 다운받아서 빨리 감기로 봤는데 정범모와 윤창식이 손잡고 서산다녀와야겠네요
[15:54] <hyoungmin> 크으
[15:54] <hyoungmin> 한화팬은 보살이라죠
[15:54] <samahui_WS> ㅎㅎㅎㅎㅎㅎㅎ
[15:54] <samahui_WS> 보살이 될 수 밖에 없지만 올해 한화는 좀 다르죠
[15:55] <samahui_WS> 김성근 감독님이 오셔서 그래도 애들이 정신은 좀 차렸어요... 다만 정범모 투수 리드나 타격이 너무 꽝이라 오늘은 안되겠더라고요. 더불어 블러킹도 제대로 못해서 추가 실점 에휴
[15:55] <samahui_WS> 조인성이라도 돌아와야 좀 해볼만 할거 같아요
[15:58] <samahui_WS> 다 떠나서 정근우라도 빨리 복귀했음 싶어요. 공격력이라도 좀 살아나게요
[16:01] <hyoungmin> 저는 요즘 lg 를 보면서 기대를 접고 보면 재미있다는 깨달음을 ...
[16:03] <samahui_WS> 야구 자체가 재미있죠 ㅎㅎ
[16:10] <razgon_> 정범모는 뭔가 나사가 하나 빠진거 같은 느낌이에요
[16:10] <razgon_> 하드웨어는 괜찮은거 같은데.
[16:10] <razgon_> 소프트웨어가.
[16:10] <razgon_> 정근우보단, 조인성이 중요하죠
[16:11] <razgon_> 아직 범모가 카피가 안되었나봐요. 조인성이.ㅋ'
[16:12] <razgon_> 오늘의 득은 마지막에 투구한 김민우. 잘하더군요. 데뷔등판인데 하반기때는 괜찮을거 같아요
[16:15] <samahui_WS> 투수하나 건졌군요
[16:15] <samahui_WS> 하지만 투수하나 잃었죠. 오늘같이 하면 윤창식이는 2군도 모자라요
[16:15] <samahui_WS> 유창식
[16:15] <samahui_WS> ㅜㅜ
[16:18] <razgon_> 유창식은 제가 아는데. 힘들겁니다.
[16:18] <razgon_> 부상 회복 부상 회복하다가 점점점 아웃.
[16:18] <razgon_> 팔꿈치가 너덜너덜 했는데, 광주일고 잇을때, 거기에 주사 계속 맞았데요.
[16:19] <razgon_> 수술받아야 할겁니다.
[16:20] <razgon_> 트리암 계속 맞았으면 통증을 마스킹했으니.
[16:22] <samahui_WS> 역시 오늘보니 완전히 재구를 못하더라고요
[16:22] <samahui_WS> 그냥 수술하고 재활이라도 하면서 김성근 감독 있을때 다시 돌아올수 있기를 빌수밖에 없겠군요
[16:23] <samahui_WS> 아무튼 오늘은 좀 실망이 컸어요
[16:23] <samahui_WS> 거기다 그 상황에서 포수가 너무 부족하니 정말 투수가 더 흔들리더라고요
[16:23] <samahui_WS> 한화는 다음 트레이드때는 포수나 하나 사왔으면 싶어요
[16:28] <samahui_pi> test
[16:28] <samahui_pi> 한글
[16:29] <hyoungmin> ㅋㅋ 우분투접속하셨어요?
[16:29] <samahui_pi> 라즈베리파이 라즈비안이요
[16:30] <samahui_pi> 잠깐 뭐 좀 돌려보려고 켜봤는데 그냥 채팅용으로 켜놓으려고 세팅했죠 ㅎㅎ
[16:30] <hyoungmin> 올ㅋ 저도 빨리 질러야 하는데 ㅜㅜ
[16:31] <samahui_pi> 지르기 부담없죠
[16:31] <samahui_pi> 후딱 지르세요~
[16:32] <razgon_> 망설이다가 판매되버렷네요..ㅠㅠ
[16:32] <razgon_> 제가 아는 사이트에 나와서 살까말까 하다가...ㅠㅠ
[16:32] <razgon_> 라즈베리 파이에 뭘 설치하기 좋은 지요?
[16:33] <razgon_> 안드로이드? 우분투? 혹은 윈도우?
[16:33] <samahui_pi> 그게 목적에 따라서 다르죠
[16:34] <samahui_pi> 보통은 라즈비안이라고 데비안 라즈베리버젼을 가장 많이 깔죠
[16:34] <samahui_pi> 근데 필요에 따라서는 riscOS나 안드로이드도 깔더군요
[16:34] <samahui_pi> 요즘은 우분투기반인 놈도 있어서 그걸 깔기도 하더군요
[16:35] <samahui_pi> xbmc를 깔아서 영화감상용으로도 많이 쓰죠
[16:36] <samahui_pi> 차 후 윈도우10 라즈지원용이 나오면 그것도 깔아봐야죠... 근데 예상이지만 임베디드용으로 나온 초소형 OS라 제어용도 이외에는 못쓸거 같지만요
[16:37] <samahui_pi> 전 지금 채팅과 간단한 웹서핑 문서리딩용 정도라 라즈비안으로 세팅했습니다
[16:37] <samahui_pi> 세팅하는데 10분도 안걸려요 ㅎㅎ;;
[16:37] <hyoungmin> 저는 제 전기장판 안드로이드 원격 실행장치를 ...
[16:38] <samahui_pi> 이제 여름이 다가올듯해서 전기장판 제어는 내년에나 쓸만하겠군요 ㅎㅎ
[16:38] <hyoungmin> ㅋㅋ 그러게요 ㅜㅜ
[16:39] <razgon_> 저는 간단합니다.
[16:39] <samahui_pi> 아직 판매 많이 하는데요
[16:39] <razgon_> 웹페이지와 티빙앱
[16:39] <samahui_pi> xbmc갈아서 쓰시면 딱이겠군요
[16:39] <razgon_> 아니요. 중고 장터에 나와서 한국들어온거라 5만원에 나왔거든요
[16:39] <razgon_> 옙
[16:40] <razgon_> 웹서핑만 하면 됩니다. ㅋ
[16:40] <samahui_pi> 예전과 달리 케이스 포함해서 5만원선에 파는거 지르세요
[16:40] <samahui_pi> 지마켓같은곳 찾아보면 많네요
[16:40] <razgon_> 아....
[16:40] <razgon_> 그런가요?
[16:40] <samahui_pi> 넵
[16:40] <hyoungmin> 이제 여름에는 mit 미디업에서 만든 모기 격추시스템을 들여오는겁니다. ㅎㅎ
[16:41] <hyoungmin> gtx 780 기반 레이저 격추시스템 후덜덜
[16:41] <samahui_pi> 모기약 발사대를 만들어서 센서로 모기 감지하고 쏘도록 만드는건 어떨가요?
[16:42] <samahui_pi> 모기약을 던지는거죠 ㅎㅎ
[16:42] <samahui_pi> 절대로 약을 뿌리는게 아니라 쏘는겁니다 ㅎ
[16:43] <hyoungmin> 모기 날갯짓 파장을 지향성 마이크로 스캔후 1점사정도면 되겠네요 ㅎ
[16:43] <samahui_pi> 근데 라즈베리파이 제대로 활용해보려면 시작키트 포함해서 각종 부속품들 다 들어간거 10만원선에 구입하는것도 나쁘지는 않아요
[16:43] <samahui_pi> 그냥 라즈베리파이만 구입하시면 정말 영화감상이나 간단한 메일서버 정도 운영이 다예요
[16:44] <razgon_> 그렇군요
[16:44] <samahui_pi> razgon님은 그냥 케이스 포함모델로 강추구요 ㅎㅎ
[16:44] <samahui_pi> 딱 그용도만 쓰실거자나요
[16:44] <razgon_> 제가 왜 취소 했는지 이해가 되는 부분.
[16:45] <razgon_> 그냥 fire Tv stick사렵니다. ㅋ
[16:45] <samahui_pi> ㅎㅎㅎ 그게 났겠는데요
[16:45] <razgon_> 라즈베리까지의 범용성까지는 필요없겠네요.
[16:45] <samahui_pi> 근데 성능은 파이가 더 좋아지지 않았을까요?
[16:45] <razgon_> 뭐 상관없죠.
[16:45] <samahui_pi> 그게 동영상 지원 범위가 틀려져서요
[16:45] <samahui_pi> 성능이 낮으면 고해상도는 물건너가니까요
[16:45] <razgon_> 병원에 두고서 쓰려는데요.
[16:46] <razgon_> 뭐 고해상도 돌리려는게 아니라 티빙앱만 돌려도 굳입니다.ㅋ
[16:46] <samahui_pi> 하긴 그렇네요 ㅎㅎ
[16:46] <razgon_> 저희 병원에 아이피티비 받는데요.
[16:46] <razgon_> 이게 초기라서 RGB 선으로 연결해서 봤거든요.
[16:47] <razgon_> 당시 오픈프레임이였음...
[16:47] <razgon_> 그냥 티비 살걸 햇어요.
[16:47] <razgon_> 설치가 개판이 되서요.
[16:47] <razgon_> 그래서 깔끔하게 무선으로
[16:48] <razgon_> 전원연결과 스틱 연결해서 티빙앱으로 티비대신해서 쓰기.
[16:48] <razgon_> 티빙스틱도 좋은 방법이나 이녀석은 지상파가 안된다는!!
[16:49] <razgon_> 그래도 땡기네요
[16:51] <razgon_> 메모리와 듀얼코어. 적절하네요.
[16:52] <razgon_> 늦었군요. 저는 이만 잡니다. 굳나잇요!
[16:52] <samahui_pi> 좋은 꿈 꾸세요~
[16:54] <razgon_> http://www.cnet.co.kr/view/130476
[16:54] <razgon_> 이런것도 있네요.
[16:54] <razgon_> 조금 기다렷다가 이거 살까요? 아니면 인텔 컴퓨트 스틱 리눅스 버젼.ㅋ
[16:56] <samahui_pi> 요즘 이런거 많이 나오는군요
[16:57] <samahui_pi> 지르세요~ 지르고 후회하는게 지르지도 못하고 후회하는것보다 났죠 ㅎㅎ
[16:58] <razgon_> ㅎㅎㅎ
[17:05] <DarkCircle> 주무신다더니 ㅋㅋㅋ
[17:05] <hyoungmin> 후하... 음함수의 미분법
[17:05] <razgon_> 진짜 잡니다. ㅋㅋ
[17:06] <razgon_> 정말 굳나잇.!! 내일아니 잇다 뵈요.ㅋ
[17:06] <DarkCircle> 음함수의 미분법 ... 들어본지 10년도 더되는듯
[17:06] <samahui_pi> 네 안녕히~ 이따뵈요
[17:06] <DarkCircle> 대학교때도 전기쪽 이랑 공학수학 때문에 음함수 가지고 장난치고 그랬는데
[17:07] <hyoungmin> 저는 이걸 다 이해하고 자야 해서 ㅜㅜ
[17:08] <DarkCircle> 해야할땐 해야 해요 흐흐 하지만 그때가 지나면 또 필요가 없 ... 원리를 알아야 하기 때문에 (먼산)
[17:14] <samahui_pi> 18년전 이군요 ㅜㅜ
[17:14] <samahui_pi> 아!... 작년이군요... 전 만년20살
[17:14] <samahui_pi> 리붓합니다~
[17:18] <hyoungmin> ㅋㅋㅋ quit 메세지 어떻게 살명하나요?
[18:33] <Work^Seony> 안녕하세요
[23:49] <ZNC_autowiz> 안녕하세요~~
[23:52] <Work^Seony> 안녕하세요
[23:52] <Work^Seony> 오유에 재밌는 글 올라와서 한참 읽고있었어요 ㅎㅎ
[23:52] <Work^Seony> http://www.todayhumor.co.kr/board/view.php?table=bestofbest&no=201878&s_no=201878&page=1
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ubuntu-chat
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| 2015-04-01T00:00:00 |
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2015-04-01-#ubuntu-release
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[07:33] <didrocks> kirkland: FYI, I uploaded a powernap fix for the upstart override ^
[11:22] <sil2100> Hello! I would need an archive admin +1'ing a version bump of media-hub packages
[11:22] <sil2100> https://ci-train.ubuntu.com/job/ubuntu-landing-023-2-publish/lastSuccessfulBuild/artifact/media-hub_packaging_changes.diff/*view*/ <- here is the CI Train packaging diff
[11:22] <sil2100> It basically renames libmedia-hub-common2, libmedia-hub-client2 to libmedia-hub-common3, libmedia-hub-client3
[11:23] <sil2100> The agreenment was that every binary package addition/rename (I think) needs approval from the archive admins
[11:25] <ogra_> sil2100, i'd ACK it ... but thats from my team :)
[11:25] <ogra_> looks totally sane though
[11:25] <cjwatson> ogra_: but you aren't in ~ubuntu-archive
[11:25] <ogra_> oops
[11:25] <ogra_> yeah
[11:25] <cjwatson> sil2100: diff looks OK but I prefer to check the actual generated binaries; doing that now
[11:26] * ogra_ totally missed the channel :)
[11:26] <cjwatson> and yes, any package whose name wasn't previously in the archive requires approval, not inclined to change that. hopefully we'll get the LP bug fixed soon that gives you a backdoor here
[11:27] <sil2100> :)
[11:27] <sil2100> cjwatson: thanks!
[11:27] * sil2100 waits for the final ACK
[11:27] <cjwatson> sil2100: looks fine, go ahead
[11:27] <sil2100> Thanks again o/
[15:08] <kirkland> didrocks: thanks!
[15:08] <kirkland> didrocks: I'm still having some some systemd problems with dotdee, which isn't installing
[17:41] <arges> bdmurray: infinity: hey I just accepted this into -proposed: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/grub-installer/1.78ubuntu23.1 for bug 1435663, but for some reason rmadison isn't showing it in -proposed, nor did sru-review update the bug appropriately. What got screwed up?
[17:46] <bdmurray> arges: I don't see anything obvious for either issue
[17:47] <arges> bdmurray: hmm... should I just manually comment to verify?
[17:47] <bdmurray> arges: all the other SRU bugs are getting updated right?
[17:48] <arges> bdmurray: yea others ones are working fine so far
[17:49] <bdmurray> arges: did the tab open for bug 1435663 when you were reviewing it?
[17:49] <infinity> arges: The rmadison thing is a lack of patience. No idea about the bug comment.
[17:50] <arges> bdmurray: no the tab did not open, but I already had the bug open due to the previous package and the bug comment looked well formed
[17:50] <arges> infinity: ack. I'll wait it out a bit
[17:51] <infinity> arges: If you look at https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/grub-installer/1.78ubuntu23.1/+publishinghistory it's pending.
[17:51] <arges> ah didnt know about +publishinghistory that's pretty useuful
[17:51] <bdmurray> arges: ah, then for some the .changes file is mising Launchpad-Bugs-Fixed
[17:51] <bdmurray> s/some/some reason/
[17:51] <infinity> arges: It's linked from the page you linked to us. :P
[17:52] <infinity> arges: Directly above the builds, where you'd expect to see which pockets/releases it's in.
[17:52] <arges> 'View Publishing History' cool
[17:52] <bdmurray> https://launchpadlibrarian.net/201141747/grub-installer_1.78ubuntu23.1_source.changes
[17:52] <arges> and there it is in rmadison
[17:52] <bdmurray> ^- No L-B-F
[17:53] <arges> bdmurray: ok in the cases where there isn't a bugs-fixed should it be re-uploaded with that corrected?
[17:53] <infinity> Tell dannf to stop preparing his uploads on a Debian system. :P
[17:54] <bdmurray> arges: I think so, a fair number of things look for that
[17:54] <arges> ok i'll ask for a re-upload of those packages with proper LBF, and ask they be done in a proper Ubuntu schroot for that release etc
[17:55] <arges> bdmurray: infinity thanks guys
[17:55] <dannf> arges: infinity: ah - didn't know that broke things, sorry
[17:55] <infinity> arges: I'm not sure a reupload is worth it now that they're accepted.
[17:55] <arges> infinity: i think some of the other packages in that bug may have the same issue, need to check it
[17:55] <dannf> arges: all of them probably do - that's where i sign things
[17:56] <infinity> arges: Yeah, for the ones already in the archive, a no-op upload isn't worth the effort just to make some computers happier. Humans can sort out if the bugs don't auto-close, etc.
[17:56] <arges> infinity: makes sense
[17:56] <infinity> dannf: genchanges on Ubuntu, scp to Debian and sign?
[17:57] <arges> dannf: libdebian-installer for trusty/utopic needs to be re-done
[17:57] <dannf> infinity: yeah, easy to do, just not something i knew was better
[17:57] <infinity> We don't actually carry changes to dpkg-genchanges, I'm wondering what this keys off of.
[17:57] <infinity> Probably dpkg-vendor.
[17:57] <arges> dannf: partman-auto for trusty/utopic too
[17:58] <arges> dannf: and partman-efi for trusty/utopic
[17:58] <infinity> Oh, in fact, LP-B-F only happens in Dpkg/Vendor/Ubuntu.pm
[17:58] <infinity> So, that explains that.
[17:58] <arges> dannf: i'll hold off on that for a bit and look at it after lunch
[17:58] <infinity> dannf: Yeah, do all your source package building on Ubuntu. :)
[17:58] <dannf> arges: is the "re-done" for L-B-F or something else?
[17:59] <arges> dannf: yea so adding the L-B-F was the only obvious thing I saw
[18:10] <arges> infinity: bdmurray : the other thing to ask (while you're here) is there some sort of MAAS Macro release Exception discussion I missed? looks like andreas wants to slam 1.7 into utopic/trusty
[18:11] <infinity> arges: There's a discussion ongoing, but no formal exception yet, so that one will be reviewed as a normal SRU.
[18:11] <arges> bug 1438428 <- seems really risky with all the changes (people will have to re-import images etc)
[18:12] <ScottK> Since when did really risky stop Maas?
[18:12] <infinity> arges: Or, rather, we'll review the 1.7->1.7.2 in utopic as a normal SRU, then verify that the backport to trusty looks vaguely sane, then they'll dilver a ton of testing to prove said sanity.
[18:14] <infinity> arges: Not happy about the "users will have to do manual things to upgrade" bit, though. :/
[18:14] <arges> Ok I'll skip it for now since there is ongoing discussion
[18:15] <ScottK> infinity: Isn't that normally a show stopper?
[18:15] <infinity> ScottK: It should be, yes. I'll bring it up with them in said ongoing discussion.
[18:15] <ScottK> I sometimes feel like we might as well change the SRU rules to "Meh, whatever".
[18:18] <infinity> ScottK: Or, I could put my foot down, which I'm doing.
[18:18] <ScottK> I like that option better.
[18:19] <infinity> ScottK: The "new maas upstream versions in LTSes" was sabdfled, but only on the condition that the maas team met a set of requirements laid out by the TB and SRU people. That's not happening here.
[18:20] <ScottK> I don't suppose there's anything that can be done to align their development schedule to the distro development schedule.
[18:20] <ScottK> It'd be nice to have one release without last minute Maas related flails.
[18:20] <ScottK> (i.e. plan on delivering the features before feature freeze)
[18:21] <arges> infinity: if it does break imported images etc, could we request a debconf prompt be added to let the user know how their system will break?
[18:22] <arges> or is that pretty pointless
[18:22] <infinity> ScottK: To be fair, their changes in vivid have been pretty sane, and not massive feature work. It's the SRUing it back to trusty bit that's problematic.
[18:22] <ScottK> OK.
[18:23] <infinity> arges: If there's literally no other way out of it, angry user prompts might help. But that's hardly the ideal.
[18:23] <ScottK> I thought I recalled seeing a standing FFe request from them.
[18:23] <arges> yea
[18:23] <infinity> arges: You'd think people familiar with the old and new data models could migrate from A to B for the user.
[18:23] <ScottK> arges: That's an abuse of debconf. It's not a notification system.
[18:23] <infinity> NEWS.Debian is the right place for that, but it's still wrong.
[18:26] <infinity> Anyhow, commented on the bug, we'll see where it goes.
[18:42] <infinity> Riddell: Erm. Since when does KDE own the generic-looking /usr/share/doc/HTML namespace?
[18:43] <infinity> Riddell: That looks entirely wrong.
[18:46] <Riddell> infinity: that's the upstream default in kde frameworks 5, it's been agreed with debian to use that
[18:47] <infinity> Riddell: ... seriously?
[18:47] <infinity> usr/share/doc/HTML/en/common/2.png <-- That's pretty horrible namespace pollution that isn't obviously tied to a package or a set of packages.
[18:49] <Riddell> that becomes /usr/share/doc/HTML/en/kdoctools5-common/ in frameworks, kde4libs will go away one day but in the mean time we should be compatible with it
[18:50] <infinity> I don't suppose you can s/common/kdelibs5-data/ and have it still work?
[18:51] <infinity> If you've checked that no other packages in the world overlap, and it's going to go away Very Soon, I guess it's not world ending, but it's pretty gross.
[18:51] <Riddell> not without risking breakage
[18:52] <Riddell> the next step is to upload 300 odd kdelibs4 apps to move the docs I'm afraid
[18:52] <infinity> And not to package namespaces?
[18:53] <infinity> I note that everything in the archive currently using that namespace uses /usr/share/doc/HTML/$lang/$package, which is fine. All except for kdelibs.
[18:53] <Riddell> it will yes
[18:54] <infinity> Okay, yeah, apt-file shows me all the old stuff is namespaced fine, assuming they just remove the "kde" from their path.
[18:54] <infinity> The common thing bugs me, but there's no overlap, so I'll get over it. :/
[19:16] <infinity> mdeslaur: You sure seem to be enjoying tiff this week.
[19:17] <mdeslaur> infinity: *&*("?" PoS
[19:17] <infinity> mdeslaur: But how do you really feel?
[19:17] <mdeslaur> irc needs emoji
[19:18] * mdeslaur makes all the neckbears cringe
[19:18] <mdeslaur> neckbeards
[19:57] <dannf> arges: so for l-d-i, partman-auto & partman-efi - did you want to reject those and have me reupload them?
[19:57] <arges> dannf: yea me reject
[19:58] <dannf> ok - will reupload proper source packages once i get the reject notifications
[19:58] <dannf> that way i can hopefully do one d-i build against proposed to verify the whole stack instead of franken-builds to verify the individual components
[19:58] <arges> dannf: ok rejected on my end
[19:58] <dannf> thx
[20:01] <dannf> arges: can you reject the utopic ones too?
[20:01] <arges> dannf: done
[20:01] <dannf> ta
[20:35] <arges> dannf: all set? I'll re-review those packages then
[20:35] <dannf> arges: yeap, thx
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2015-04-01-#lubuntu
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[00:19] <ooppss> hello I am trying to mount an encrypted Ubuntu home dir from a live Lubuntu environment
[00:20] <ooppss> I am trying to follow this guide - http://askubuntu.com/questions/60601/unwrapping-passphrase-and-inserting-into-the-user-session-keyring-failed
[00:20] <ooppss> despite me knowing the passphrase, ecryptfs-recover-private does not work
[00:21] <ooppss> so I'm going this route - http://askubuntu.com/questions/60601/unwrapping-passphrase-and-inserting-into-the-user-session-keyring-failed/107660#107660
[00:21] <ooppss> so now the mount has been possible, but now the filenames are all like ECRYPTFS_FNEK_ENCRYPTED.FXb2-z7jOWonC-Tnab9zTUbFH25CpbGxm1faHi469K-dKumM1u.CTOcGc50.4zrfQ-OZjjmLk2q6G
[00:22] <ooppss> so how can I get normal filenames?
[01:27] <MiniFridge> Hi, I'm using Lubuntu in a VM. I unchecked third party software upon installation, but yet, when I checked in Ubuntu Software, I saw restricted software checked.
[01:27] <MiniFridge> Why is this?
[01:27] <MiniFridge> *Software and Updates
[01:28] <MiniFridge> Also, does this mean it will install restricted software automatically?
[01:30] <rww> the checkbox during installation is to actually install some such software during installation. the checkbox in software sources is to make the repository containing that software available
[01:34] <MiniFridge> rww, but it won't download through updates. I need to download from those repositories manually first, right?
[01:34] <rww> correct, if you don't have restricted software installed, it will not be auto-installed by updates
[01:34] <MiniFridge> okay
[01:34] <MiniFridge> thank you
[01:35] <MiniFridge> I did install VBoxAdditions through VBox, but I assume that is not updated anyway through the updater?
[01:36] <rww> not sure, i always just use the virtualbox-guest-x11 package in the repositories
[01:37] <MiniFridge> hm, the updater says no proprietary drivers in use...
[01:37] <MiniFridge> weird
[01:41] <MiniFridge> thanks for your help, though
[01:45] <Christopher-Were> Hi, I was wondering if someone could help me with getting 15.04 running in VirtualBox. The live CD works great but the install runs only in 640x480 and nothing seems to be able to correct this
[01:45] <Christopher-Were> I've tried the guest-addons but it refuses to properly install because the linux headers are not up-to-date
[01:48] <Christopher-Were> Anyone here?
[02:27] <MiniFridge> bye
[02:28] <MiniFridge> thanks again
[02:51] <Christopher-Were> Hi, I was wondering if someone could help me with getting 15.04 running in VirtualBox. The live CD works great but the install runs only in 640x480 and nothing seems to be able to correct this
[02:52] <Unit193> Christopher-Were: Install linux-generic and virtualbox-dkms
[02:52] <Christopher-Were> In the VM or on my current system?
[02:56] <Unit193> VM.
[02:56] <Christopher-Were> kool thanks I'll give it a go
[03:02] <Christopher-Were> That doesn't appear to have worked
[03:04] <Unit193> After those have installed and built, you need to restart X. An easy way to do this is by rebooting.
[03:04] <Christopher-Were> I've just done that
[03:17] <Christopher-Were> Any other advice? It seems to work on the liveCD
[03:20] <Unit193> !x
[03:25] <Christopher-Were> Still no luck I'm afraid
[03:44] <ianorlin> Christopher-Were: what does the alternate installer do?
[03:52] <Christopher-Were> what do you meann?
[03:52] <Christopher-Were> It installs fine
[03:53] <ianorlin> ah it is after install?
[03:53] <Christopher-Were> yup
[03:53] <ianorlin> ah I don't test virtualbox
[03:53] <Christopher-Were> the LiveCD works in 1024x768 which isn't ideal but it'll do
[13:49] <asd_> Hey guys, I'm having issues installing vlc, I'm running Lubuntu 14.04.2 LTS, this is output:http://paste.ubuntu.com/10718355/
[17:22] <NinjaKirby> Greetings, if I am allowed to enquire about such things here, can I ask if there is any known issues with running a MySQL Client on the current 14.10 release?
[17:24] <ianorlin> um I don't from lubuntu but I shouldn't see why not same as any other ubuntu would be really
[17:25] <NinjaKirby> Right, I'm getting errors trying to install via CLI or the Software Centre, driving me nuts.
[17:25] <NinjaKirby> I shall keep battling on.
[17:28] <wxl> NinjaKirby: pastebin it up?
[17:33] <NinjaKirby> Will do, I should mention (much to your dismay) I'm a bit of a Unix noob
[17:34] <NinjaKirby> www.pastebin.com/3uYiDxcW
[17:38] <NinjaKirby> I've done something (has to be me, right?), I attempted to sudo install a MySql client earlier and no doubt balls'd it up. Tried some cleanup commands to no avail.
[17:38] <wxl> NinjaKirby: did you update first?
[17:39] <wxl> NinjaKirby: if you haven't make sure you do
[17:39] <wxl> NinjaKirby: then do sudo apt-get -f install
[17:40] <wxl> NinjaKirby: if that still doesn't fix it, tell me what version you're running (lsb_release -ds)
[17:40] <NinjaKirby> Right... okay, update did a massive check. Install claims there is 14 not to upgrade. "Looks positive".
[17:40] <wxl> NinjaKirby: pastebin those 14 not to upgrade
[17:42] <NinjaKirby> Okay, no joy thus far. #Ubuntu 14.10 listed for the lsb_release command. I will google for a "list" command, lol.
[17:42] <wxl> NinjaKirby: `sudo apt-get -y install pastebinit; sudo apt-get upgrade | pastebinit`
[17:43] <NinjaKirby> Pastebin compatibility is built into Linux/Terminal, amazing.
[17:44] <NinjaKirby> Oh wait, no it's not, you're asking me to install something?
[17:44] <wxl> NinjaKirby: if you install it, then you get pastebin compatibility in the terminal.
[17:45] <wxl> NinjaKirby: the second part "pipes" (| is called a pipe) the output of the update command through the pastebinit command
[17:45] <wxl> NinjaKirby: also, i did mean update, not upgrade
[17:52] <NinjaKirby> Okie dokie, it's installed, it seems.
[17:52] <wxl> NinjaKirby: and you did the whole bit including the part after the semicolon?
[17:53] <NinjaKirby> Aye... well, I did it all in one line as if it was queuing two commands, so indeed.
[17:53] <wxl> so it should have spit out a paste url
[17:53] <wxl> ew you using windows? :)
[17:56] <NinjaKirby> I am for my Host computer, aye, heh
[17:57] <NinjaKirby> http://paste.ubuntu.com/10719672/
[17:57] <NinjaKirby> That's the one it churned out.
[17:58] <wxl> seems truncated
[17:58] <NinjaKirby> Hmmm, I run the update command earlier and it lists the same list.
[17:59] <wxl> i don't see the 14 not to upgrade
[18:00] <NinjaKirby> Oh sorry, maybe I misled you, I read that based on a message provided at the Installation command stage, it came before the Update command.
[18:00] <wxl> so would like to see that
[18:00] <NinjaKirby> Roflcopters, alright, let's see now
[18:02] <NinjaKirby> http://paste.ubuntu.com/10719705/ lol, why do I think this is not what you wanted to see.
[18:02] <wxl> wtf. there's no indication of what the 14 area?
[18:02] <wxl> s/area/are/
[18:03] <NinjaKirby> Y'know why? Because I'm doing it wrong, I dunno what I'm doing wrong but it must be me.
[18:03] <wxl> oh well
[18:03] <NinjaKirby> I just did "sudo apt-get install | pastebinit"
[18:03] <wxl> try sudo apt-get -f install
[18:04] <NinjaKirby> I can safely just tack on pastebinit with this stuff, I guess
[18:04] <wxl> yep
[18:04] <NinjaKirby> lol, it's the same again.
[18:05] <NinjaKirby> I should just start another clean slate VM, see if it happens.
[18:05] <wxl> so same error message?
[18:06] <wxl> !info mysql-client
[18:07] <NinjaKirby> http://paste.ubuntu.com/10719720/ It's just outputting the same thing to pastebin.
[18:07] <wxl> oh
[18:07] <wxl> ok
[18:07] <wxl> now if you try to install mysql-client, same error?
[18:08] <NinjaKirby> Aye, I must have broke it all somehow. I barely touched anything, I swear it D:
[18:08] <wxl> try installing mysql-client-5.5
[18:10] <NinjaKirby> Ah now, that's the very first command I used to try and install the MySQL client via Terminal and it didn't fail. I thought I messed it all up by doing that, because I should have perhaps only requested "mysql-client", as I thought I had bypassed other dependancy packages by being specific.
[18:10] <NinjaKirby> But then using the Remove command and stuff didn't work and whatever the hell, damn computers.
[18:11] <wxl> might try using purge instead of remove
[18:13] <NinjaKirby> Ah right, I'll try that in a mo, thanks for your support. Just gonna test something ¬_¬
[20:04] <NinjaKirby> Wow, finally, it only took all day. I don't think I'm cut out for this.
[20:04] <Unit193> Either that or out to a slower start. Though I have no idea what "this" is. :D
[20:06] <NinjaKirby> Hehe, just trying to learn and get started with MySQL and Linux generally a bit more indepth really. Finally got my Lubuntu VM to connect to my Ubuntu VM which runs the MySQL.
[20:07] <NinjaKirby> Although, I was only doing all of this to troubleshoot FloreantPOS, so now I should install that again and see if it works.
[20:08] <NinjaKirby> I will reward my small success with DT's Count of Tuscany.
[20:27] <djoi298> since the new "netbooks" are now tablets and chromebooks how well does lubuntu perform on them?
[20:28] <ianorlin> djoi298: I don't have either it performs amazingly well on my 5 year old laptop after I added an ssd to it
[20:29] <djoi298> i think Google has prevented typical linux distros from being installed on chromebooks
[20:30] <djoi298> and does linux even have a usable touchscreen GUI?
[20:31] <ianorlin> djoi298: I have heard there are ways around that
[22:51] <NinjaKirby> YES, another victory!
[22:51] <NinjaKirby> XRDP running and accessible from Windows & Ubuntu, although it uses LXDE which I didn't think Lubuntu had, or at least, I thought I told it to remove it.
[22:52] <wxl> lxde is essentially what makes lubuntu *l*ubuntu
[22:53] <NinjaKirby> Righto, the light weight nature. So... thank god that ended well then.
[22:59] <NinjaKirby> It's like deleting System32.
[22:59] <wxl> i think that's usually a benefit
[23:16] * NinjaKirby grins
[23:27] <NinjaKirby> YEEEEEEEES I DID IT
[23:28] <NinjaKirby> It only took 10 hours to reach this moment. I'd like to thank you all for your support, and thank my Mum back home. Love you mum.
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2015-04-01-#ubuntu-pl
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[10:13] <kazimiera> alo
[10:13] <kazimiera> ktos bawil sie kiedys w rootowanie komurki?
[10:13] <kazimiera> nie moge dac sobie rady z moja
[10:18] <Ashiren> mhm
[10:18] <Ashiren> kiedys zrootowalem komurke jajowa
[10:20] <kazimiera> :D
[10:20] <tomodachi> ja tylko rootowalem androidy
[10:20] <Ashiren> i blackberry
[10:20] <tomodachi> crackberry
[10:20] <kazimiera> robie zgodnie z instrukcja sony
[10:20] <kazimiera> On your Xperia™ J, press the Volume up button at the same time as you connect the other end of the USB-cable
[10:21] <kazimiera> i powinna swiecic dioda niebieska
[10:21] <kazimiera> a mi swieci zielona
[10:21] <kazimiera> i dupazbita :(
[10:21] <kazimiera> czyli nie moge do tego fastboot sie podlaczyc czy jak to sie nazywa
[10:22] <Ashiren> a probowalas apke towelroot
[10:22] <kazimiera> mam xperie j
[10:22] <tomodachi> sprawz inny FAQ
[10:22] <tomodachi> czesto sie nie zgadzaja
[10:22] <kazimiera> Ashiren: apkre na fona?
[10:22] <Ashiren> towelroot dziala na wiele roznych modeli
[10:23] <tomodachi> albo troche sie ruznia na inny reviziej itd
[10:23] <Ashiren> tak, za pomoca 1 klikniecia
[10:23] <Ashiren> https://towelroot.com/
[10:23] <gjm> komurki sie ruznia
[10:28] <drathir> kazimiera: jak tam odpisali cos z men-u czy zle kojarze nick?
[10:28] <drathir> bry...
[10:28] <kazimiera> dobrze :)
[10:28] <kazimiera> nie z men-u tylko nowej ery
[10:28] <kazimiera> gdzie tam...
[10:29] <drathir> kazimiera: czyli tak jak myslalem ;p oni nie chetni do takich rzeczy...
[10:29] <kazimiera> mi tam to w sumie nieszczegolnie zalezy, ale kolezanka sie wkur...
[10:31] <drathir> to monopol jeden wielki i jak to zwykle bywa tam tylko na ich korzysc, zeby dobrze bylo... byleby nie za otwarte i nie za szeroko dostepne...
[10:31] <drathir> na dobra sprawe to pdf-y ksiazek mogliby udostepniac... ;p
[10:31] <kazimiera> a co z tymi wolnymi podrecznikami tak btw ?
[10:32] <drathir> kazimiera: tam gdzie przekretow da sie mniej robic to nie tak szybko w zycie wchodzi...
[10:34] <kazimiera> Ashiren: w google play nie widze tej apki
[10:34] <Ashiren> sciagnij z internetu
[10:34] <Ashiren> wiadomo ze w google play nie bedzie apki do robienia root
[10:35] <Ashiren> ja zawsze najpierw to probuje a potem kombinacje z odpowiednim modeem
[10:35] <kazimiera> mam nadzieje ze ta apka nie zrobi ququ wielkiego komurce ;)
[10:36] <drathir> kazimiera: backup danych zawsze bezpieczniej zrobic ;p
[10:36] <kazimiera> nie mam specjalnie nic na tej komurce, bardziej mi chodzilo zeby pozniej system wstal na niej
[10:38] <kazimiera> phone isn't currently support ;(
[10:40] <gjm> yes. i don't
[10:40] <Ashiren> no trudno
[12:15] <kazimiera> hmmm czy kto mnie oswieci czy dobrze poszedl root ?
[12:15] <kazimiera> http://pastebin.com/LcG6HAD9
[12:20] <drathir> !badpastebin
[12:20] <drathir> kazimiera: przetestuj na comodo...
[12:22] <kazimiera> tzn?
[12:44] <drathir> kazimiera: comodo ma swoj dodatek do polaczen monitorowania ktory roota wymaga...
[12:45] <drathir> jak nie zrootowany to poinformuje...
[13:05] <kazimiera> nie chce nowych aplikacji
[14:27] <jacekn> kazimiera: no to otworz konsole i wpisz "su"
[14:27] <jacekn> kazimiera: jak dziala to dostaniesz konsole z rootem
[14:47] <kazimiera> tak zrobilam
[14:48] <kazimiera> jest #
[14:48] <kazimiera> wiec ok
[18:05] <TheNumb> .
[18:40] <Ashiren> (nie kot) https://i.imgur.com/wGhIiOz.jpg
[18:48] <pcctw> a co?
[18:48] <pcctw> ;)
[18:48] <en0x> pussy
[18:48] <pcctw> hej mam pytanko laika... ;)
[18:49] <pcctw> jak podać ściezke do katalogu głownego (system) a nie home podczas kopiowania?
[18:49] <en0x> e?
[18:49] <en0x> nie rozumiem pytania
[18:49] <pcctw> ok to prosciej
[18:50] <pcctw> w katalogu home/muzyka mam piosenke
[18:50] <TheNumb> a, to pewnie chodzi Ci o ~
[18:50] <TheNumb> ;p
[18:50] <en0x> kto go wie o co mu chodzi
[18:50] <TheNumb> ~/Muzyka = /home/uzytkownik/Muzyka
[18:50] <en0x> cp ~/muzyka/piosenka /tmp/
[18:50] <en0x> D
[18:50] <en0x> ;D
[18:50] <TheNumb> mv ~/muzyka/piosenka /dev/null
[18:51] <en0x> cat ~/muzyka/piosenka > /dev/dsp
[18:51] <en0x> chyba teraz juz nie ma dsp
[18:51] <TheNumb> chyba jest
[18:51] <pcctw> i chce ja skopiowac (cp) do katalogu sys/block
[18:51] <en0x> lol
[18:51] <TheNumb> pcctw: na ciul?
[18:51] <TheNumb> :|
[18:51] <en0x> pewnie sie mu nudzi ;D
[18:51] <TheNumb> ta
[18:52] <pcctw> nie nudzi :p czekajcie sprobuje bo chyba wiem co walilem zle...
[18:52] <pcctw> momento...
[18:53] <pcctw> to taki przyklad - a tak serio to probuje skopiowac dzwonek z katalogu muza do katalogu z dzwonkami w telefonie
[18:53] <DaZ> ogarnij montowanie partycji
[18:53] <TheNumb> no
[18:53] <DaZ> takich jak pamieci usb
[18:53] <TheNumb> pewnie android
[18:53] <DaZ> albo mtp, jak masz ten gnuj w telefonie
[18:53] <TheNumb> to mtp
[18:53] <DaZ> ,_,
[18:54] <DaZ> moj sie przedstawia jako normalny usb storage
[18:54] <pcctw> ale dzwonki mam w katalogu system
[18:54] <pcctw> robie to za pomoca termianal
[18:54] <TheNumb> :|
[18:54] <DaZ> pcctw: ja mysle, ze tobie sie wydaje, ze masz :3
[18:55] <pcctw> no bo za pomoca plikow to mi odmawia dostepu :/
[18:55] <pcctw> ja wiem to nawet bo sprawdzilem ;)
[18:55] <DaZ> i gdzie jest ten katalog system? ;3
[18:55] <en0x> w /system
[18:55] <en0x> :D
[18:56] <DaZ> czy to robak z makiem?
[18:56] <en0x> czy jak tam pisal /sys/block
[18:56] <pcctw> Devices/system/media/audio/ringtones
[18:56] <pcctw> tutaj chce skopiowac swoj dzwonek
[18:56] <en0x> glwt
[18:57] <pcctw> co?
[18:58] <pcctw> no nie chce scierwo
[18:59] <pcctw> mowi mi ze nie moze stworzyc bo nie ma takiego miejsca docelowego - ale widze ze probuje to znaleźć w home - jak go zmusic do zapisania w system :/
[19:00] <en0x> zainstaluj windowsa
[19:01] <pcctw> mam juz jednego - scierwo jeszcze wieksze :p
[19:02] <pcctw> aaa chyba niezrozumienie - chodzi mi o operacje na telefonie
[19:02] <pcctw> a co to to mtp?
[19:03] <Ashiren> a nie mozesz w karcie pamieci zrobic katalogu Ringtones i tam wrzucic
[19:03] <TheNumb> nie
[19:03] <Ashiren> przy pomocy adb
[19:03] <TheNumb> bo w ubuntu nie działa
[19:03] <TheNumb> musi zainstalować archa
[19:04] <TheNumb> z kde
[19:04] <pcctw> moge - ale to nie rozwiazuje problemu, bo moge wybrac dzwonek tylko z listy z tego katalogu Devices/system/media/audio/ringtones
[19:04] <TheNumb> bieda
[19:04] <Ashiren> ln -s /dev/null Devices/system/media/audio/ringtones
[19:04] <TheNumb> po co się męczysz w terminalu
[19:04] <TheNumb> jak są menedżery plików na androida
[19:04] <TheNumb> ,_,
[19:04] <pcctw> tzn co? nie da sie wkleic zadnego pliku do katalogu głownego?
[19:05] <Ashiren> ale zapis do /system w androidzie wymaga roota
[19:05] <TheNumb> pcctw: musisz mieć uprawienia roota ;d
[19:05] <pcctw> ale koledzy/kolezanki - kto wam powiedzial ze mowa o androidzie
[19:05] <TheNumb> ubuntu touch?
[19:05] <Ashiren> a po co ci ringtones
[19:05] <pcctw> no jak w terminalu wklepie sudo to nie to samo?
[19:06] <TheNumb> pcctw: out do #ubuntu-touch
[19:06] <TheNumb> ;x
[19:06] <pcctw> TheNumb, w rzeczy samej :)
[19:06] <TheNumb> tam będą wiedzieli jak upsuć
[19:06] <TheNumb> mało kto używa tego gunwa
[19:06] <TheNumb> :P
[19:06] <Ashiren> i w ubuntu touch nie mozna wybrac sobie dzwonka?
[19:06] <TheNumb> Ashiren: chyba jeszcze nie dorobili
[19:06] <TheNumb> :^)
[19:06] <pcctw> TheNumb, wiesz jak to jest - nie dla psa kiełbasa, nie dla byle kogo ubuntu :p
[19:06] <TheNumb> ja się zaśmiałem jak powiedzieli, że nie można zmienić tapety
[19:07] <TheNumb> "design decision"
[19:07] <pcctw> Ashiren, no wlasnie kurwa im sie zapomnialo chyba....
[19:07] <TheNumb> hue hue hue
[19:07] <TheNumb> nawet w srajfonie można
[19:07] <pcctw> TheNumb, oni sie smiali z ciebie raczej - bo tam nie ma czegos takiego jak tapeta...
[19:07] <Ashiren> ~ https://cl.ly/image/0k3k1s452y0z
[19:07] <pcctw> czasem lepiej sie nie odzywac - nie skapuja zes idiota - czy jakos tak to szło ;)
[19:08] <TheNumb> Ashiren: mysql workbench?
[19:09] <Ashiren> eclipse
[19:09] <Ashiren> ale to nie moje
[19:33] <pcctw> ufff udało sie :)
[19:33] <pcctw> dzieki za nie-pomoc :p
[19:34] <Ashiren> polecamy sie na przyszlosc
[19:38] <pcctw> ;)
[19:41] <drathir> ale ta tapeta zawsze gdzies tam jest, podmienic powinno sie dac...
[19:42] <TheNumb> no tak
[19:42] <TheNumb> ale nie żeby kowalski musiał grzebać w fs żeby podmienić tapetę
[19:42] <TheNumb> :P
[19:43] <Ashiren> sounds like gentoo
[19:44] <TheNumb> no
[19:46] <Ashiren> no?
[19:46] <gjm> no
[19:46] <pcctw> drathir, nie ma tapety - jest tylko ekran blokady - ten z kółeczkiem - no i tutaj tło możesz zmienic
[19:46] <pcctw> ale to tylko widzisz przy odbokowywaniu ekranu - bo potem nie ma czegos takiego jak tapeta czy pulpit
[19:51] <Ashiren> tylko terminal
[19:54] <TheNumb> pulpet
[20:00] <drathir> pcctw: ekhm... to takie troszke ze tak powiem dziwne...
[20:01] <pcctw> tzn co? brak pulpitu i tapetki? bardziej dziwne, w kwestii przyzywczajeń jest brak przycisku wstecz :d
[20:03] <pcctw> z terminala wklepałem tylko zapomniałem o zamontowaniu dysku :p korek
[21:02] <drathir> pcctw: lol tylko do przodu czy jak?
[21:04] <drathir> albo slepa uliczka i reset?
[21:15] <pcctw> drathir, musisz jakis filmik obejrzec ;) nie ma wcale przyciskow ten telefon (takich nawigacyjnych)
[21:16] <pcctw> ale zastosowane rozwiazania sa calkiem niezłe - nadal się przyzywczajam ale dobrze to wygląda (biorąc pod uwagę początki systemu)
[21:22] <drathir> pcctw: nie mow ze na wsttrzasy sie nawiguje co to wii drugie? ;p
[21:23] <drathir> nom musze zobaczyc;p byleby nie na glos...
[21:26] <pcctw> ;)
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2015-04-01-#ubuntu-kernel
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[13:24] <kyugyi> .
[13:24] <kyugyi> did usa covertly supply isis with weapons like they did with al-qaeda to justify creating wars?
[13:24] <kyugyi> did usa excute the creative mess in the middle east like they said they will, does the creative mess include explosions with uncertain responsibles to create wars?
[13:24] <kyugyi> plz, send my qs to help limiting usa&israel aggression against others.
[13:24] <kyugyi> .did usa covertly supply isis with weapons like they did with al-qaeda to justify creating wars?
[13:24] <kyugyi> did usa excute the creative mess in the middle east like they said they will, does the creative mess include explosions with uncertain responsibles to create wars?
[13:24] <kyugyi> .
[13:24] <kyugyi> did usa covertly supply isis with weapons like they did with al-qaeda to justify creating wars?
[13:24] <kyugyi> did usa excute the creative mess in the middle east like they said they will, does the creative mess include explosions with uncertain responsibles to create wars?
[13:24] <kyugyi> plz, send my qs to help limiting usa&israel aggression against others.
[13:24] <kyugyi> .did usa covertly supply isis with weapons like they did with al-qaeda to justify creating wars?
[13:24] <kyugyi> did usa excute the creative mess in the middle east like they said they will, does the creative mess include explosions with uncertain responsibles to create wars?
[13:24] <kyugyi> plz, send my qs to help limiting usa&israel aggression against others.
[13:24] <kyugyi> .
[13:24] <kyugyi> did usa covertly supply isis with weapons like they did with al-qaeda to justify creating wars?
[13:24] <kyugyi> did usa excute the creative mess in the middle east like they said they will, does the creative mess include explosions with uncertain responsibles to create wars?
[13:24] <kyugyi> plz, send my qs to help limiting usa&israel aggression against others.
[13:24] <kyugyi> .did usa covertly supply isis with weapons like they did with al-qaeda to justify creating wars?
[13:24] <kyugyi> did usa excute the creative mess in the middle east like they said they will, does the creative mess include explosions with uncertain responsibles to create wars?
[13:24] <kyugyi> plz, send my qs to help limiting usa&israel aggression against others.
[14:56] <ytrezq> Hello, do you know how I can merge patches : http://stackoverflow.com/q/29357563/2284570#comment46899862_29357563 ?
[14:58] <apw> ytrezq, there is no way to automatically merge patches which conflict
[14:58] <apw> that is the definition of a conflict, that they cannot be automatically merged
[19:20] <leitao> I have a question regarding kernel compilation in LTS and standard release.
[19:21] <leitao> If we move Ubuntu 15.10 on POWER8, i.e, mcpu=power8, will it affect 14.04.4 release? I.e, will 14.04.4 required POWER8 also?
[19:22] <leitao> Looking at launchpad, it seems that both are compiled using different parameters, which means that 14.04.4 will continue to be POWER7 and 15.10 will be POWER8, even sharing the 'same kernel'.
[19:22] <leitao> Am I correct here?
[19:22] <infinity> leitao: The backport kernels are compiled on the target release, so if we're just talking about chaning compiler defaults, no, that won't change in trusty.
[19:22] <leitao> infinity, makes sense
[19:23] <infinity> leitao: If we change anything in the kernel build itself to target P8 as a minimum, then we'll want to undo that in the lts- branches.
[19:23] <infinity> leitao: Assuming that supporting the LTS on P7 remains a goal.
[19:23] <infinity> leitao: But that's another discussion.
[19:24] <leitao> infinity, that is right. 14.04 will continue to be POWER7, that is a safe assumption
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ubuntu-chat
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2024-05-13T22:11:14.078601
| 2015-04-01T00:00:00 |
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2015-04-01-#ubuntu+1
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[02:15] <cxdvty> ObrienDave: are you here?
[05:54] <xennex81> does anyone know if 15.04 will allow me (or anyone) to run plasma4 style themes like Oxygen and Air (in KDE)?
[07:05] <lordievader> Good morning.
[07:06] <elfy> morning lordievader
[07:07] <lordievader> Hey elfy
[07:10] <elfy> you good?
[07:15] <lordievader> Without coffee? Not sure :P
[07:15] <elfy> lol
[07:15] <elfy> I've just disconnected the tea-line - day is looking ok now :)
[07:57] <kbroulik> any progress on the kded5 ram bug? :/
[07:58] <lordievader> Ram bug? (I suppose this question is more suited towards #kubuntu-devel)
[07:58] <kbroulik> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kubuntu-notification-helper/+bug/1434226
[07:59] <kbroulik> ok I turned off notification helper, perhaps that helps
[08:37] <xennex81> i'm not sure if I'm such an annoying person here, but I'm just asking whether plasma 5 will allow a person to use plasma 4 style themes, or whether these themes are present, or anything like that.
[08:39] <xennex81> so sorry if I'm being a weirdo here ;-)
[08:40] <xennex81> that is not really intended
[08:40] <xennex81> plasma 4. Has these themes. Oxygen. But most importantly Air, I guess. It looks pretty fancy with high contrast. At least when compared to Plasma 5 breeze light theme.
[08:42] <xennex81> it has nice icons. It was often said that 15.04 woudl ship plasma5 "by default" but I hear say that plasma5 is going to be the only option.
[08:43] <xennex81> although I feel that having an option to select the older looks is a great asset to any distribution and certainly to this one.
[08:44] <xennex81> it would just be great if any of the old would seep through in the new
[08:45] <xennex81> and I don't really know how to explain myself but it's really simple. The question is really whether these icons and themes are present or could be present or will be made present in 15.04, by any chance whatsoever?
[08:47] <lordievader> xennex81: Asking around in #kubuntu-devel or #kde probably has more result.
[08:47] <xennex81> oh okay
[08:47] <xennex81> i mean, I was just directed here before :P
[08:47] <xennex81> haha
[08:47] <xennex81> thanks man
[08:48] <xennex81> I think it was actually you who was the helpful person? :P
[08:48] <xennex81> but thanks
[09:05] <quiricada> lubuntu 15.04; cups 2.0.2; printers are showing in cups using browser access, however, no printers listed in program print dialogs (eg. libreoffice), printer is not listed in system-config-printer either
[11:54] <henkjan> hi
[11:55] <henkjan> i did a fresh install of my hypervisor with vivid
[11:55] <henkjan> default vivid kernel (3.19.xx)
[11:55] <henkjan> running a few vm's
[11:55] <henkjan> the host now randomly hangs itself
[11:55] <henkjan> no logging
[11:55] <henkjan> just stops responding
[11:56] <henkjan> i've upgrade to 4.0rc6 from http://kernel.ubuntu.com/~kernel-ppa/mainline/
[11:56] <lordievader> Hehe. Now that is fun. What does monitoring system resources show?
[11:56] <henkjan> now seems to run fine
[11:59] <henkjan> i wasnt using excessive system resources
[12:01] <lordievader> Memory errors?
[12:05] <henkjan> no logged memory errors
[12:05] <henkjan> its a dell 2950 with 16G FB ECC memory
[12:22] <BluesKaj> Hiyas all
[15:16] <solsTiCe> hi. what is the best (if there is any) to upgrade to 15.04 beta from 14.10 ? do-release-update -d, update-manager -d or from a liveusb ?
[15:16] <solsTiCe> +way+
[15:17] <k1l_> the upgrades work. if gui or cli doesnt matter
[15:17] <solsTiCe> ok
[15:37] <hateball> So I am having trouble with kwin freezing my entire machine on 15.04
[15:37] <hateball> I can see it spamming xsession-errors with: kwin_core 0x20004: Usage warning, generic vertex... something something
[15:38] <hateball> it happens if I just let the machine sit on an idle session
[15:43] <hateball> Well it also happens if I try to actively use the machine, which is more of an annoyance
[15:44] <hateball> I am not sure what to look for
[16:02] <hateball> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kubuntu-notification-helper/+bug/1434226 is what
[17:54] <FunnyLookinHat> Can anyone else confirm a weird networking issue where having both a wireless and wired connection at the same time causes requests to timeout?
[18:16] <ceed^> Hi, after todays update I am getting this error every time I boot: https://carousel.dropbox.com/photos/cc/XNWKUahiRCSoWvX
[18:27] <xennex81> ceed^: too many arguments is usually a bash test not going right because a variable has not been quoted
[18:28] <xennex81> ceed^: ie. [ -z $var ]
[18:38] <ceed^> xennex81, this is what is in that file: http://hastebin.com/iqoxuzafey.bash
[18:42] <xennex81> [ -n $LC_IDENTIFICATION ] && [ ${LC_IDENTIFICATION%.*} = 'pt_BR' ] is the recommended way to be dash/ash/sh compatible
[18:45] <xennex81> ceed^: but if gives an error if LC_IDENTIFICATION contains a space, or tab, or newline, most likely. You'll need to enclose it in ¨" but that means something is going wrong from the start? Dunno, just saying a few things about where the error comes from.
[18:45] <xennex81> [ -n "$LC_IDENTIFICATION" ] && ["${LC_IDENTIFICATION%.*}" = 'pt_BR' ]
[18:45] <xennex81>
[18:47] <ceed^> xennex81, this must be a bug since this error suddenly popped up after a recent update in 15.04. I have never touched that file.
[18:51] <xennex81> ceed^: then it means that string is wrong but the script fails because it is wrong, ie. there is a space in it or whatever
[18:52] <xennex81> ceed^: if you want to troubleshoot it, do "echo $varnam > /tmp/tmp.log"or whatever and then check that file after login or boot
[18:52] <xennex81> i mean in the script
[18:53] <xennex81> but I'm not sure if that's what you're intending, but I'm no bug-handler here
[18:55] <FunnyLookinHat> ceed^, I get the error too
[18:55] <FunnyLookinHat> ( just ran updates )
[19:06] <ceed^> xennex81, thanks! I just wanted to know what was wrong. But it's good to know what is actually happening also.
[19:07] <xennex81> yw
[19:08] <xennex81> but the string is obviously had from the environment, the contents of mine is "nl_NL.UTF-8" so check yours?
[19:09] <xennex81> i mean, it is supposed to be "pt_BR.UTF-8" or something for you right
[19:09] <xennex81> so type echo $LC_IDENTIFICAITON in a shell
[19:10] <xennex81> withing the spelling error :p
[19:12] <xennex81> it is probably unset
[19:19] <xennex81> it is funny that [ -n -a -n ] will complete as true without error
[19:19] <xennex81> but [ -n -a = string ] will fail with the error you got
[19:35] <ceed^> I do not get anything from $LC_IDENTIFICAITON And I have set "en_US.UTF-8"
[19:44] <FunnyLookinHat> $LC_IDENTIFICATION is blank for me too
[19:58] <solsTiCe> so I wanted to upgrade from 14.10 to 15.04 using a liveusb. why the **** the installer asks about timezone and want me to create a user ? all is already set on system that is being upgraded ! so I aborted the upgrade and ended up in a lot of trouble. almost all was gone on /. So I reinstalled :-( bummer
[19:59] <CptRageToaster> solsTiCe: Is it possible that you blew away the old install before you even started installing?
[20:02] <solsTiCe> It seems so. stuff were already started when you are at the user creation step I guess
[20:04] <k1l_> solsTiCe: why didnt you use the upgrade like do-release-upgrade or update-manager?
[20:05] <solsTiCe> I already donwload the iso so I thought it would faster
[20:05] <solsTiCe> load+ed+
[20:05] <k1l_> solsTiCe: the installed offers a "upgrade the install" option. if you didnt use that you might have reinstalled. or half reinstalled
[20:06] <solsTiCe> no I used the upgrade option. and it ask nonetheless to ccreate a user
[20:12] <CptRageToaster> that might have been normal...
[20:56] <solsTiCe> when I boot (into 15.04), it gets stuck at "checking file system on disk (0.0%)" for 30 seconds or so. I wonder if it is related to the crypted swap I configured
[20:57] <solsTiCe> ttp://paste.ubuntu.com/10720620/
[20:57] <solsTiCe> uh ho output of systemd-analyze blame|head
[21:01] <solsTiCe> and the metadata of ext4 partition do not show a fsck been done
[21:30] <solsTiCe> should I open i bug report ?
[21:31] <elky> sure. make sure you give as much detail as you can about your setup
[23:06] <solsTiCe> I have anothe problem. When I close the lid of my laptop, it does not go to sleep and the external monitor is still on; may be because of external monitor
[23:11] <solsTiCe> anyone ?
[23:12] <solsTiCe> was working fine in 14.10
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2024-05-13T22:11:14.096052
| 2015-04-01T00:00:00 |
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2015-04-01-#ubuntukylin-devel
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[08:01] <happyaron> line dropped
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ubuntu-chat
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2024-05-13T22:11:14.097550
| 2015-04-01T00:00:00 |
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2015-04-01-#ubuntu-irc
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[21:15] <dobey> hi, we're having a problem with someone in #launchpad
[21:15] <dobey> "FrogLeg" keeps changing the topic and using discrimantory language
[21:17] <k1l_> if blr or cjwatson is not around only canonical/launchpad cloaked ones could help or freenode staff
[21:17] <dobey> oh
[21:17] <elky> yeah you need joey, wgrant, cjwatson, blr, anyone with a canonical cloak or a freenode staffer
[21:21] <Unit193> That's a known bot/troll.
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ubuntu-chat
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2024-05-13T22:11:14.098718
| 2015-04-01T00:00:00 |
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"dobey",
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2015-04-01-#maas
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[02:41] <mup> Bug #1438977 was opened: Changing the zone name of a cluster does not remove the old zone. <MAAS:Triaged> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1438977>
[04:30] <mup> Bug #1416026 changed: Uninstalling MAAS doesn't remove the postgresql DB <maas (Ubuntu):Expired> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1416026>
[08:48] <mup> Bug #1439064 was opened: 1.8a9: Title of individual commissioning result page is permanently "Loading..." <landscape> <MAAS:New> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1439064>
[09:52] <mup> Bug #1439086 was opened: Deselecting a filter where there are no matching nodes <landscape> <MAAS:New> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1439086>
[10:13] <mup> Bug #1439091 was opened: 1.8a9: Clicking on my account name resets the filters <landscape> <MAAS:Triaged> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1439091>
[10:24] <dimitern> rvba, hey, are you around?
[10:25] <mup> Bug #1439104 was opened: 1.8a9: FIlters for a different section hide active filters <landscape> <MAAS:Triaged> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1439104>
[10:27] <rvba> dimitern: hey
[10:28] <dimitern> rvba, so I'm looking at the juju db from your juju.tgz file
[10:28] <dimitern> rvba, can you give me some more info about what was observed?
[10:29] <rvba> dimitern: sure
[12:19] <mup> Bug #1439159 was opened: maas packaging in vivid needs to prevent isc-dhcpd and squid3 from running <MAAS:Confirmed for andreserl> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1439159>
[13:37] <mup> Bug #1320555 changed: MAAS needs a better warning if you haven't set up your SSH keys <ui> <ux> <MAAS:Invalid> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1320555>
[13:37] <mup> Bug #1439199 was opened: Imprecise error message when trying to deploy machines without having SSH keys <ui> <MAAS:Triaged> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1439199>
[13:49] <mup> Bug #1320555 was opened: MAAS needs a better warning if you haven't set up your SSH keys <ui> <ux> <MAAS:Invalid> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1320555>
[13:49] <mup> Bug #1439199 changed: Imprecise error message when trying to deploy machines without having SSH keys <ui> <MAAS:Triaged> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1439199>
[14:01] <mup> Bug #1320555 changed: MAAS needs a better warning if you haven't set up your SSH keys <ui> <ux> <MAAS:Invalid> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1320555>
[14:01] <mup> Bug #1439199 was opened: Imprecise error message when trying to deploy machines without having SSH keys <ui> <MAAS:Triaged> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1439199>
[14:01] <mup> Bug #1439205 was opened: No hover state on machines in node listing <ui> <MAAS:New> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1439205>
[14:01] <mup> Bug #1439208 was opened: Nodes can be deployed via the UI without having SSH keys <ui> <MAAS:Triaged> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1439208>
[14:55] <mup> Bug #1439237 was opened: Weird spacing of the spinner on the image page <ui> <MAAS:Triaged> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1439237>
[14:55] <mup> Bug #1439239 was opened: MAAS 1.8a9 API node details failures <cloud-installer> <landscape> <MAAS:New> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1439239>
[16:08] <mup> Bug #1439287 was opened: Failed releasing node <landscape> <MAAS:Triaged> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1439287>
[17:38] <mup> Bug #1439322 was opened: Simultaneous IP address requests with only one succeeding <cloud-installer> <landscape> <MAAS:New> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1439322>
[19:08] <mup> Bug #1439339 was opened: "Choose power type" dropdown broken <ui> <MAAS:New> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1439339>
[19:08] <mup> Bug #1439341 was opened: Reference to session is unexplained <MAAS:New> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1439341>
[19:26] <mup> Bug #1437353 changed: UEFI network boot hangs at grub for adapter 82599ES 10-Gigabit SFI/SFP+ <hwe> <ipv6> <uefi> <MAAS:Invalid> <python-tx-tftp:Invalid> <grub2 (Ubuntu):Invalid> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1437353>
[19:26] <mup> Bug #1439356 was opened: changing node name on node details weirdness <ui> <MAAS:New> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1439356>
[19:38] <mup> Bug #1439341 changed: Reference to session is unexplained <MAAS:Invalid> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1439341>
[19:38] <mup> Bug #1439359 was opened: When upgrading to MAAS 1.7 from MAAS 1.5, MAAS should trigger the image import automatically. <MAAS:Triaged by blake-rouse> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1439359>
[19:47] <mup> Bug #1439341 was opened: Reference to session is unexplained <MAAS:Invalid> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1439341>
[19:47] <mup> Bug #1439359 changed: When upgrading to MAAS 1.7 from MAAS 1.5, MAAS should trigger the image import automatically. <MAAS:Triaged by blake-rouse> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1439359>
[19:56] <mup> Bug #1439341 changed: Reference to session is unexplained <MAAS:Invalid> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1439341>
[19:56] <mup> Bug #1439359 was opened: When upgrading to MAAS 1.7 from MAAS 1.5, MAAS should trigger the image import automatically. <MAAS:Triaged by blake-rouse> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1439359>
[19:56] <mup> Bug #1439366 was opened: MAAS 1.7 should be backwards compatible with 1.5 the preseed naming convention <MAAS:Triaged> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1439366>
[19:59] <mup> Bug #1439366 changed: MAAS 1.7 should be backwards compatible with 1.5 the preseed naming convention <MAAS:Triaged> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1439366>
[20:08] <mup> Bug #1439366 was opened: MAAS 1.7 should be backwards compatible with 1.5 the preseed naming convention <MAAS:Triaged> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1439366>
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ubuntu-chat
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2024-05-13T22:11:14.103332
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2015-04-01-#ubuntu-fi
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[07:40] <elias_a> Mistähän ihmeestä on kyse kun apt-get valittaa, että tällaisessa on kaksi kertaa sama entry: /var/lib/apt/lists/archive.canonical.com_ubuntu_dists_utopic_partner_binary-i386_Packages
[07:42] <elias_a> Ja nyt kun luen vielä koko virheilmon tarkemmin, huomaan, että virheilmo herjaa sekä 32- että 64-bittisestä lähteestä: W: Duplicate sources.list entry http://archive.canonical.com/ubuntu/ utopic/partner amd64 Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/archive.canonical.com_ubuntu_dists_utopic_partner_binary-amd64_Packages)
[07:42] <elias_a> W: Duplicate sources.list entry http://archive.canonical.com/ubuntu/ utopic/partner i386 Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/archive.canonical.com_ubuntu_dists_utopic_partner_binary-i386_Packages)
[07:42] <elias_a> W: Voit haluta suorittaa apt-get update näiden pulmien korjaamiseksi
[07:45] <tale> elias_a: Ja noita rivejä ei ole kahteen kertaan, ehkä eri tiedostossa? Hakemistossa /etc/apt.sources.list.d/
[07:47] <elias_a> tale: Eikös tuon virheilmoituksen sulkujen sisällä olevan osan ole tarkoitus kertoa, että missä se entry on?
[07:49] <tale> elias_a: Minun mielestäni se kertoo mihin varastoalueeseen viitataan, ei sitä missä sources.list -tiedostossa on rivi joka saa sen mukaan.
[07:51] <elias_a> tale: Okei. Pitääpä greppailla.
[07:52] <elias_a> Mutta pitäisikö tuo lukea niin, että sekä 32- että 64-bittinen on tuplasti siellä jossain vai niin, että siellä on 32- ja 64-bittinen, mitä ei saisi olla?
[07:53] <elias_a> (Sinänsä erikoista että siellä on 32-bittinen kun koneessa ei ikinä ole ollut 32-bittistä käyttistä.)
[07:53] <tale> elias_a: Voi olla multiarch, joka asentuu jos siihen 64-bittiseen ubuntuun tarvitaan 32-bittiset ajoaikaiset kirjastot.
[07:54] <mjr> ei kovin erikoista, niin
[07:54] <elias_a> Okei.
[07:54] <tale> elias_a: Esimerkiksi jonkun vain 32-bittisenä saatavilla olevan lisäosan vuoksi.
[07:54] <mjr> se vaan mahdollistaa suorilta 32-bittisten pakettien asennuksen tarvittaessa
[07:54] <elias_a> Ai niin, tietty.
[08:19] <elias_a> Nyt en kyllä tajua. Ei löydä grep yhtään mitään /etc/apt -hakemiston alta....
[08:19] <elias_a> Vai mikäs tässä on vikana? sudo grep -rl "http://archive.canonical.com/ubuntu/ utopic/partner i386" /etc/
[08:24] <ansa> greppaa pelkästään tuota partner -sanaa, ei noita arkkitehtuureja noin merkata ainakaan multiarch-systeemissä
[08:25] <elias_a> Koitetaanpas.
[08:25] <ansa> mä tosin lukisin vain sources.list:n / sources.list.d:n alta tiedostot läpi, ei siellä kovin montaa riviä ole
[08:27] <elias_a> ansa: No sepä ei olisi ratkaissut tätä ongelmaa... :)
[08:28] <elias_a> Partner-repo on kahdessa paikassa, toinen on /etc/apt/sources.list.d/canonical_partner.list ja toinen on perinteinen /etc/apt/sources.list
[08:28] <elias_a> Kummassakohan sen pitäisi olla nykyversioissa?
[08:29] <elias_a> Pitäisiköhän sitä katsoa, kumpaan GUI-päivitystyökalu vaikuttaa?
[08:34] <elias_a> Jep. GUI:n ohjelmalähteet muuttaa /etc/apt/sources.list.d/canonical_partner.list :in sisältöä. sources.list on siis väärä ja ylimääräinen paikka tuolle.
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ubuntu-chat
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2024-05-13T22:11:14.116618
| 2015-04-01T00:00:00 |
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2015-04-01-#ubuntu-unity
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[07:10] <tsdgeos> Mirv: did you have a chance at running the AP tests?
[07:10] <tsdgeos> oh you're rebuilding what happened?
[07:36] <tsdgeos> om26er: ping
[07:36] <tsdgeos> om26er: unping
[07:37] <om26er> _-_
[07:40] <tsdgeos> om26er: it was me just not having read a bug you reported in full, now i have :)
[07:40] <om26er> tsdgeos, which is that ?
[07:40] <tsdgeos> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/unity8/+bug/1436349
[07:43] <Mirv> tsdgeos: running, looks better. rebuilding since the test build succeeded, we can't publish ~test version anyway.
[07:44] <tsdgeos> Mirv: ah, so i can join in running AP then?
[07:44] <Mirv> tsdgeos: could you run unity8 AP on mako? I tend to always have problems with those lately. I got 1 failure with archive version, but often it aborts in the middle.
[07:53] <tsdgeos> Mirv: will later, first on the bug i'm reviewing
[08:18] <tsdgeos> om26er: ping now
[08:18] <om26er> tsdgeos, pong
[08:22] <tsdgeos> om26er: i can not reproduce the bug
[08:22] <tsdgeos> om26er: so i have to wipe phone, be on first screen of the wizard, call myself, answer, hang
[08:22] <tsdgeos> and i am on the tutorial
[08:22] <tsdgeos> i finish the tutorial
[08:23] <tsdgeos> and what should happen? i get the tutorial again? or after a reboot? or?
[08:46] <om26er> tsdgeos, after you hangup the call, drag out the launcher
[08:46] <om26er> wizard starts agian
[08:46] <tsdgeos> om26er: hmmmm ok, that should have been part of the bug report :D
[08:47] <tsdgeos> or again i need to read the bug better
[08:47] <tsdgeos> one of the two :D
[08:48] <om26er> tsdgeos, you said that right, dragging out the launcher was not mentioned in the report
[08:52] <greyback> Mirv: hey, who would I pester about a qtcreator bug?
[08:55] <Mirv> greyback: probably zbenjamin / bzoltan first and if it's upstream bug then file a bug at https://bugreports.qt.io/
[08:55] <Mirv> we've a bit outdated Qt Creator nowadays though
[08:57] <greyback> Mirv: ok, I'll be on to them. It's really quite annoying, qtc crashes if I unplug the monitor its window is on
[08:57] <Saviq> can confirm da
[08:57] <Saviq> t
[08:57] <Mirv> that sounds like an old, old Qt bug
[08:58] <Mirv> ie it'd happen with any Qt software
[08:58] <Mirv> greyback: ^
[08:58] <Mirv> bug #1318584
[08:58] <greyback> hmm, why am I only noticing it recently
[08:59] <Mirv> oh, then it might be something different. I wasn't really well able to reproduce it myself except for one machine.
[09:03] <Mirv> there's finally some action in the upstream bugs for Qt 5.5
[09:07] <tsdgeos> Mirv: the dbus ones?
[09:07] <tsdgeos> yeah
[09:08] <Mirv> tsdgeos: no, that multimonitor bug
[09:14] <tsdgeos> Mirv: ah
[09:37] <tsdgeos> Mirv: unity8 autopilots may be suffering from needing https://code.launchpad.net/~nick-dedekind/unity8/autopilot_test_failures/+merge/254118 or similar
[09:37] <tsdgeos> it's known they are unstable-ish
[09:39] <tsdgeos> but i'm running them anyway
[10:02] <tsdgeos> Mirv: unity8 autopilot looks ok, got the failure of password vs assword that i have a patch up for and it's known
[10:07] <Mirv> tsdgeos: thanks.. I'll continue with the rest. it's indeed looking good so far.
[10:20] <tsdgeos> mzanetti: Saviq: unity: what's the opinion on https://code.launchpad.net/~aacid/unity8/qt55/+merge/254418 ?
[10:21] <mzanetti> tsdgeos, well... if it's required to build... looks ok to me
[10:22] <tsdgeos> it is with the current alpha
[10:22] <tsdgeos> may awnt to wait
[10:22] <tsdgeos> but still builds with 5.4
[10:22] <tsdgeos> so doesn't really hurt
[10:22] <tsdgeos> mzanetti: is there a way to test https://code.launchpad.net/~mzanetti/unity8/fix-launcher-losing-apps/+merge/254613 other than getting telergam chat messages?
[10:23] <mzanetti> tsdgeos, yes. you can manually call the dbus methods to show and hide the highlight
[10:23] <mzanetti> tsdgeos, erm, the count emblem
[10:41] <tsdgeos> hmmm
[10:42] <tsdgeos> hmmm2
[10:42] <tsdgeos> :D
[10:44] <tsdgeos> mzanetti: should the new test fail without the launcher chagne?
[10:44] <mzanetti> tsdgeos, yes
[10:44] <tsdgeos> i think i may be running the wrong test
[10:44] <mzanetti> tsdgeos, make launchermodeltest
[10:44] <tsdgeos> ah that one
[10:45] <tsdgeos> k
[10:46] <mzanetti> I actually first added the failing test, then fixed the launcher to not fail any more - so quite positive it should still fail without the change
[10:53] <tsdgeos> mzanetti: hmmm
[10:53] <tsdgeos> mzanetti: why recent and not running?
[10:54] <mzanetti> ...
[10:54] <tsdgeos> or rather maybe the check should be
[10:54] <tsdgeos> if (!countVisible && !item->pinned() && !item->recent() && !item->running()) { instead of if (!countVisible && !item->pinned() && !item->recent()) {
[10:54] <tsdgeos> ?
[10:54] <mzanetti> tsdgeos, recent == running
[10:54] <mzanetti> er
[10:55] <tsdgeos> mzanetti: why is there another property for running then?
[10:55] <mzanetti> that is a good question
[10:55] <mzanetti> let me look
[10:57] <mzanetti> tsdgeos, ah right... so in the beginning it wasn't clear that recent == running, so the code could deal with both. however, the running property is not used in the launchermodel at all
[10:57] <mzanetti> could be dropped - or rather recent be renamed to running
[10:57] <tsdgeos> mzanetti: so noone is setting running from anywhere?
[10:58] <mzanetti> can't find any occurrance atm, no
[10:58] <mzanetti> and I totally forgot that running property even existed
[10:59] <mzanetti> tsdgeos, I'll have some hangouts regarding launcher on desktop soon. I'll clarify if we can clean this up
[10:59] <mzanetti> maybe with that recent != running again... not sure yet
[11:02] <tsdgeos> mzanetti: ok
[11:03] <tsdgeos> mzanetti: let's leave it right now as it is? maybe a comment somewhere? like a TODO in running saying "investigqate if we can kill it" or something?
[11:03] <mzanetti> tsdgeos, that would be in unity-api though
[11:03] <tsdgeos> well sure, but you can add the todo in unity8 side and then remove it from everywhere
[11:05] <tsdgeos> after all the running() is pure virutal, no?
[11:06] <tsdgeos> anyway if you prefer not to change it
[11:06] <tsdgeos> ok
[13:02] <tsdgeos> mzanetti: will you do https://code.launchpad.net/~aacid/unity8/urldispatcher_hideeverything/+merge/253527 ?
[13:08] <mzanetti> tsdgeos, oh sorry. yes, sure, will do
[15:11] <tsdgeos> dednick: any idea what's up with the last autopilot stuff?
[15:11] <tsdgeos> ah you aborted it?
[15:38] <tsdgeos> mzanetti: you doing https://code.launchpad.net/~mterry/unity8/skip-spread-tutorial-on-desktop/+merge/253866 ? or want me to take over?
[15:42] <tsdgeos> dandrader: you still need the stdio in that MR?
[15:44] <dandrader> tsdgeos, removed
[15:47] <tsdgeos> k
[15:50] <mzanetti> tsdgeos, if you have time for it, feel free to take it over
[15:51] <tsdgeos> ok, i'll check it tomorrow, i'll eod now
[16:11] <dednick> why my device always saying "Reinstallation of unity8 is not possible, it cannot be downloaded." lately?
[16:23] <greyback> dednick: did you install a locally build copy of unity8? Or that the unity8 you have installed is old, and only a newer version is available for download from the repo
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ubuntu-chat
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2024-05-13T22:11:14.121793
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"Saviq",
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"tsdgeos"
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"channel": "#ubuntu-unity"
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2015-04-01-#ubuntustudio
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[16:37] <gaconsalt> https://vk.com/video?z=video250143506_171162483%2Falbum250143506 --- как это обьяснить))?
[16:39] <gaconsalt> that is, how to explain it
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ubuntu-chat
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2024-05-13T22:11:14.126045
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"authors": [
"gaconsalt"
],
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"channel": "#ubuntustudio"
}
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2015-04-01-#ubuntu-tw
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[08:17] <mark_chang_1492> test
[09:55] <romber> Hi, 請問有沒有甚麼command可以在執行另一個command的同時show出pid ?
[09:55] <romber> 類似加上 "&" 在背景執行時的效果
[15:01] <freen0d3rr> hello guys, sorry to bother, Someone could help me to access a file from a pan.baidu.com ? That I cannt acces. I think baidu doesnt allow other countries
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ubuntu-chat
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2024-05-13T22:11:14.130409
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"freen0d3rr",
"mark_chang_1492",
"romber"
],
"url": "https://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2015/04/01/%23ubuntu-tw.txt",
"channel": "#ubuntu-tw"
}
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2015-04-01-#ubuntu-us-pa
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[09:33] <rmg51> Morning
[12:04] <teddy-dbear> Morning peoples, dogs, turkeys, hamsters and everything else
[14:07] <ChinnoDog> morning
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ubuntu-chat
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2024-05-13T22:11:14.131048
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"license": "Public Domain",
"authors": [
"ChinnoDog",
"rmg51",
"teddy-dbear"
],
"url": "https://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2015/04/01/%23ubuntu-us-pa.txt",
"channel": "#ubuntu-us-pa"
}
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2015-04-01-#ubuntu-gr
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[07:22] <salih-emin> καλημέρα
[09:23] <Anoniem4l> salih-emin ti leei pws paei
[09:23] <Anoniem4l> edw paleuw me to #ircpuzzles
[09:24] <salih-emin> μια χαρά
[09:24] <salih-emin> τι να λεει δουλεια
[11:45] <hoohoo> ti leei tsakalia?
[14:20] <Euaki> Νέα από ubuntusecurity: USN-2555-1: Libgcrypt vulnerabilities <http://www.ubuntu.com/usn/usn-2555-1/> || USN-2554-1: GnuPG vulnerabilities <http://www.ubuntu.com/usn/usn-2554-1/>
[15:00] <Euaki> Νέα από ubuntusecurity: USN-2550-1: Firefox vulnerabilities <http://www.ubuntu.com/usn/usn-2550-1/>
[19:08] <harispc> Hi guys
[19:09] <harispc> Έχουμε φα
[19:09] <harispc> φασαρια?
[19:10] <harispc> Nobody?
[19:30] <talos-mintgr> whats up?
[21:01] <Euaki> Νέα από ubuntusecurity: USN-2553-2: LibTIFF regression <http://www.ubuntu.com/usn/usn-2553-2/>
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ubuntu-chat
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2024-05-13T22:11:14.135914
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"Anoniem4l",
"Euaki",
"harispc",
"hoohoo",
"salih-emin",
"talos-mintgr"
],
"url": "https://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2015/04/01/%23ubuntu-gr.txt",
"channel": "#ubuntu-gr"
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2015-04-01-#ubuntu-dk
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[16:15] <Ubuntubruger4> mojn folkens -- er der liv herinder?
[16:27] <soon> Det er ikke muligt at tilmelde sig forum på ubuntudanmark.dk ... "Den indsendte formular var ugyldig" ... bortset fra at det er den ikke! :-(
[16:31] <sbc> soon, kan jeg lokke dig til at sende den e-mail du forøger at skrive dig op med til mig, gerne sammen med et screenshot eller lignende af fejlmeddlelsen?
[16:31] <sbc> [email protected] <-- soon
[16:32] <soon> jep -- jeg har prøvet to soren@ og spam@ ... begge to ender på oneill.dk
[16:32] <soon> jeg ville gerne oprettes så jeg kunne sætte min nye Ubuntu bq phone til salg :-)
[16:39] <soon> ahh .. sorry jeg så ikke lige det med screen shot ... kommer a,s,a,p
[16:41] <sbc> soon, Takker. Jeg sender det videre til Anders og Nicky (som står for serveren). Jeg vil ikke love noget svar-tidspunkt (slet ikke i påsken), men der skal nok komme nogen og se på det, og så hører du forhåbentlig tilbage.
[16:41] <sbc> soon, Hvis det haster kan du måske finde interesserede på vores Facebook side?
[16:41] <sbc> https://www.facebook.com/UbuntuDanmark
[16:42] <soon> Ok - jeg takker og prøver FB i mellemtiden ..
[16:57] <sbc> soon, Kan jeg lokke dig til at sende billedet vedhæftet. Jeg fik bare en enormt lang mail med koder...
[16:58] <soon> ok ... løjerligt .. jeg prøver igen
[17:28] <sbc> soon, modtaget. Jeg har videresendt screenshot og info. Fortsat go' aften.
[17:28] <sbc> ps. må jeg spørge hvorfor du vil sælge telefonen? Er du ikke glad for den?
[17:30] <soon> mange tak for hjælpen -- telefonen er fin -- jeg er bare hængt op på nogle krav ift arbejde der gør at jeg bliver nødt til at have en anden (Android) også ... og jeg evner ikke at udvikle apps/scopes til den, så jeg tænkte at der var andre der ville have mere gavn af den end mig ... jeg købte den primært for at se den :-)
[17:32] <sbc> forståeligt :)
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ubuntu-chat
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2024-05-13T22:11:14.141880
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"Ubuntubruger4",
"sbc",
"soon"
],
"url": "https://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2015/04/01/%23ubuntu-dk.txt",
"channel": "#ubuntu-dk"
}
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2015-04-01-#ubuntu-community-team
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[07:13] <elfy> morning dpm
[07:14] <dpm> good morning elfy
[07:14] <dpm> morning everyone
[07:30] <czajkowski> aloha
[07:39] <davidcalle> Morning all o/
[07:42] <czajkowski> ello
[08:01] <dpm> hey davidcalle, czajkowski
[09:11] <popey> yo
[09:13] <popey> elfy: he's back on wednesday :)
[09:14] <czajkowski> next wednesday
[09:20] <popey> ya
[09:20] <popey> he's being dialling up the hippie
[13:11] <dpm> hi mhall119, when you're up, quick IRC standup on where we stand with the API docs site deployment?
[14:05] <mhall119> dpm: dholbach was working with dbarth on a temporary work-around to get the HTML5 API docs packaged and in the archives
[14:06] <mhall119> he got one of them done (platform-api) but builds were failing on the other (html5-theme)
[14:06] <mhall119> that's all I'm really waiting on now
[14:07] <mhall119> I'm missing some autopilot docs that balloons was chasing down, and also the cordova API docs, but we decided those weren't blockers
[14:08] <mhall119> also there's an update to webapp-generator that's going out today
[14:32] <mhall119> dpm: are you still on for our call?
[14:35] <dpm> mhall119, oh, I didn't see it on my calendar, but I'm on if you are too
[14:35] <dpm> thanks for the update
[14:36] <mhall119> https://plus.google.com/hangouts/_/canonical.com/david-michael
[14:37] <dpm> ok, coming
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ubuntu-chat
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"authors": [
"czajkowski",
"davidcalle",
"dpm",
"elfy",
"mhall119",
"popey"
],
"url": "https://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2015/04/01/%23ubuntu-community-team.txt",
"channel": "#ubuntu-community-team"
}
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2015-04-01-#ubuntu-hr
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[04:38] <Vlado9A3CY> dobro jutro :)
[04:42] <calmpitbull> morgen
[05:03] <Mmike> mlji
[05:14] <calmpitbull> mlji?
[05:14] <calmpitbull> morgen ljepi?
[05:52] <Mmike> recimo :)
[05:57] <calmpitbull> znaci je
[06:16] <BotaniCar> Jutro
[06:21] <BotaniCar> Ima tko kakvu preporuku za usisavac do kilokune ?
[06:28] <Mmike> idem po baciklo
[06:28] <Mmike> BotaniCar, ne
[06:28] <Mmike> :)
[06:31] <BotaniCar> psmtr, nitko nema, a postojeci mi ne usisava nikak ..
[06:32] <BotaniCar> na kraju cu kupiti neki Kirby, vec sam 3 usisavaca promijenio u 2 godine, drek za drekom
[06:49] <ivoks> ak mislite da su domacice zarazne i da ih ne mozete prestati jesti
[06:49] <ivoks> ...probajte mini domacice
[06:55] <vileni> haha, u vidiju testiraju dell koji je dosao sa ubuntuom, i pod minus napisu "nema OS"
[06:59] <ivoks> budale
[07:09] <calmpitbull> hahhaha
[07:09] <calmpitbull> a ima sada sve vise laptopa sa ubuntu os-om
[07:16] <ivoks> mirka jednostavno unistava
[07:16] <ivoks> mini domacice
[08:03] <VjetarSaSunca> BotaniCar: pogledaj ponudu u Metrou, do 1Kkn se može naći široka paleta. Da ja tražim uzeo bi Bosch ili Hoover iz trenutnog kataloga
[08:06] <calmpitbull> ili emmezeta
[08:12] <BotaniCar> Vjetar: you mindreader you ( apropo brendova ) , kaj za METRO vise ne treba kartica ?
[08:13] <SilverSpace> dam
[08:15] <BotaniCar> daj
[08:15] <SilverSpace> da[
[08:15] <SilverSpace> daš
[08:15] <BotaniCar> []
[08:16] <SilverSpace> jebo ubuntu boota mi se sa us tipkovnicom
[08:16] <SilverSpace> damo
[08:16] <SilverSpace> date
[08:16] <SilverSpace> daju
[08:16] <BotaniCar> Nemaju,lazu ! :)
[08:41] <ivoks> hm
[08:41] <ivoks> systemd forkao kernel
[08:45] <Mmike> jel? :D
[08:45] <Mmike> ivoks: daj url neki
[08:45] <ivoks> https://github.com/systemdaemon/systemd/tree/master/src/linux
[08:46] <Mmike> hm
[08:46] <ivoks> https://forums.freebsd.org/threads/so-its-official-the-systemd-project-forks-the-linux-kernel.51076/
[08:47] <ivoks> http://www.reddit.com/r/programming/comments/30u63z/the_systemd_project_forks_the_linux_kernel/
[08:47] <ivoks> :]
[08:48] <Mmike> ivoks: ne zaboravimo da je Apr 1st danas
[08:48] <ivoks> zato i :]
[08:48] <Mmike> da
[08:48] <Mmike> malo sam se usro, moram priznat :)
[08:48] <SilverSpace> :)
[08:53] <Mmike> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hEJnMQG9ev8
[08:53] <datase> YouTube: Mad Max: Fury Road - Official Main Trailer [HD] - 0:02:32 - 1,574,157 views - 9838 likes / 305 dislikes
[08:57] <SilverSpace> https://youtu.be/Jmg2aXYkkLY
[08:57] <datase> YouTube: F1: Off the Grid Mexico City: Episode 2 - 0:04:46 - 151 views - 3 likes / 0 dislikes
[08:58] <SilverSpace> Mmike: ^^
[09:01] <SilverSpace> Mad Max wtf
[09:03] <SilverSpace> Resounding: Alonso returns to Ferrari!
[09:04] <Mmike> SilverSpace: da, sjebalki su stazu, al' morali su
[09:04] <Mmike> nema vise onih S zavoja dugackih
[09:06] <jelly> https://com.google/
[09:06] <SilverSpace> he he
[09:08] <jelly> (rezultati isto)
[09:08] <SilverSpace> da bas gledam :)
[09:13] <SilverSpace> http://www.index.hr/black/clanak/amazon-predstavio-proizvod-za-koji-su-svi-bili-uvjereni-da-je-prvoaprilska-sala-a-nije/810796.aspx
[09:14] <SilverSpace> http://lajk.s3.index.hr/index/800/d70a0aa2-9b5d-4ff6-91d5-603171dc0173.png
[09:14] <SilverSpace> lol
[09:27] <Mmike> jelly: ti imas nvidiju sad tam di sjedis?
[10:32] <BotaniCar> Mmike: pitaj mene !! :)
[10:32] <Mmike> BotaniCar: pitam tebe
[10:33] <frainfreeze> Imadem i ja.
[10:34] <jelly> Mmike: ne, imam stari G45 intel gpu kojem ne smijem ukljucit 3d
[10:34] <BotaniCar> Mmike: jok, onboard intel i AMD neki 6XXXX :)
[10:34] <Mmike> frainfreeze: na lajnuksu? nvidia driveri?
[10:34] * BotaniCar high5's jelly
[10:34] <jelly> i doma me ceka GT220 da zamijenim hladilnik
[10:35] <BotaniCar> Kak vam se ovaj usisavac cini : http://segar.hr/Product/Usisava%C4%8D_Hoover_RU80_RU31011_Rush ?
[10:35] <Mmike> frainfreeze: ako da, aj vidi ovo : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5xkNy9gfKOg
[10:35] <datase> YouTube: tearing test @29.97 fps (1080p) - 0:01:29 - 35,843 views - 90 likes / 0 dislikes
[10:35] <Mmike> jel' ti 'potrgano' ?
[10:35] <Mmike> ili ovo: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=22ftfoCSPQI
[10:35] <jelly> BotaniCar: di pise snaga?
[10:35] <datase> YouTube: vsync test - vsync1 - 0:00:31 - 14,422 views - 43 likes / 0 dislikes
[10:36] <frainfreeze> uf nemam flash
[10:36] <frainfreeze> cek prebacit cu na html5
[10:36] <Mmike> pa html5 je default
[10:36] <Mmike> vec neko vrijeme
[10:36] <frainfreeze> Meni radi ok.
[10:36] <frainfreeze> Na fedori
[10:37] <BotaniCar> jelly: snaga postaje nebitna ( nazivna, ne efektivna) jer EU limitira tu vrstu uredjaja na 1400W ; ovaj je 850W
[10:38] <Mmike> frainfreeze: koja nvidia, koji driveri, koji kernel, koji window manager?
[10:38] <frainfreeze> 680 gtx, nemam pojma, opet nemam pjma (valjda default), lxde
[10:39] <jelly> BotaniCar: jebo ih limit da ih jebo
[10:39] <frainfreeze> a bome radi i na ubuntu
[10:39] <BotaniCar> jelly: slazem se, ne uspijevam dokuciti logiku iza ogranicenja
[10:42] <jelly> https://www.youtube.com/v/lx_vWkv50uk?autoplay=1
[10:42] <datase> YouTube: Ghostbuster's Theme on eight floppy drives - 0:03:56 - 1,839,981 views - 28264 likes / 206 dislikes
[10:42] <Mmike> frainfreeze: uname -a <- za kernel
[10:43] <Mmike> frainfreeze: nvidia-settings -v
[10:43] <Mmike> za verziju nvidije
[10:43] <Mmike> tj, rdivera
[10:44] <jelly> doma imam kde sa gl compositorom koji sigurno radi tearing
[10:44] <jelly> kad se iskljuci 3d compositor i odabere ispravni output za sync (dva monitora!) trebalo bi biti ok
[10:49] <frainfreeze> Mmike, sorry vjesao sam veš, anyway http://i.imgur.com/UmkrHil.png
[10:49] <frainfreeze> to je ubuntu
[10:50] <Mmike> frainfreeze: dpkg -l | grep nvidia
[10:50] <Mmike> sto ti veli?
[10:50] <frainfreeze> niš
[10:51] <Mmike> nemas nvidija drivere
[10:51] <frainfreeze> valjda mi nisu trebali xD
[10:53] <ivoks> http://media-cdn.tripadvisor.com/media/photo-s/01/59/01/3d/shinjuku.jpg
[10:54] <ivoks> http://media-cdn.tripadvisor.com/media/photo-s/02/ab/b2/30/filename-img-7768-jpg.jpg
[10:58] <VjetarSaSunca> http://www.rtl.hr/vijesti/novosti/1566954/nova-era-televizije-u-hrvata-news-bar-preuzeo-rtl/
[11:05] <Mmike> novo internet bankarstvo od RBA je o-caj-no
[11:05] <Mmike> radi brzo, to je jedino
[11:06] <Mmike> staro bankarstvo je u ovo doba dana bilo neupotrebljivo
[11:06] <Mmike> al' vise nish ne vidim, sve je izmjesano, nemam nikakav pregled
[11:06] <Mmike> prije sam, reicmo, imao sve 'neprovedene' naloge na jednom mjestu i vidio sam koliko para odnose
[11:06] <Mmike> sad tog vise nema
[11:06] <Mmike> jer su svi nalozi na istom mjestu
[11:06] <Mmike> onda, sortiranje je naopacke, od novijeg prema starijem
[11:06] <Mmike> i nemam mogucnost promjene
[11:06] <Mmike> uzas
[11:06] <Mmike> ivoks: kak je ebankarswtvo od erste?
[11:09] <ivoks> Mmike: super
[11:09] <ivoks> naloge imas sortirane:
[11:09] <ivoks> - potpisane
[11:09] <ivoks> - nepotpisane
[11:10] <ivoks> - provedene
[11:10] <ivoks> vizualno je slicnije novom RBA bankarstvu
[11:10] <ivoks> ali nije kricavo zuto, vec je u ugodnim plavim tonovima
[11:10] <Mmike> ma tonovi i boje su mi tak nebitni
[11:10] <Mmike> funklcionalnost mi je bitna
[11:11] <Mmike> ovo novo RBA bankarstvo je mozda 'oku ugodnije', ono staro je fakat bilo ruzno, al' je staro bilo 101 put funkcionalnije.
[11:11] <BotaniCar> weshmashian: blizanci ??!! :)
[11:11] <ivoks> Mmike: slazem se, staro je bilo bolje
[11:11] <ivoks> al vise me nije briga :D
[11:12] <ivoks> erste mi je preporod
[11:12] <ivoks> token je prakticniji (tanji od osobne)
[11:12] <ivoks> mogu mijenjati pin na kartici
[11:12] <ivoks> izvjestaje mi salju mailom, a ne postom
[11:15] <Mmike> meni rba samo racun za usluge salje mailom
[11:15] <Mmike> sad su mi sjebali i izvode :)
[11:15] <ivoks> ah da, izvodi
[11:15] <Mmike> prije sam imao skriptu koja je poskidala izvode i isprintala ih u pdf
[11:15] <ivoks> erste ima izvode u elektronickom obliku
[11:15] <ivoks> pa taj file samo posaljem knjigovodstvu
[11:15] <Mmike> sad ovi naprave .zip koji je totalno debilan
[11:15] <Mmike> ma ima i ovo
[11:15] <ivoks> ovi ga importiraju
[11:15] <ivoks> u svoj soft i vozi
[11:15] <Mmike> (imala je rba to i prije, al' to nisam koristio)
[13:27] <Mmike> tristo zilijarti komponentni koje medjusobno komuniciraju na petsto kvintilijardi nacina
[13:27] <Mmike> cudno, pa kak se nesh potrga
[13:39] <SilverSpace> fiju
[13:46] <jelly> cudno da opce radi
[13:57] <Mmike> jelly: cudno da tak dobro radi
[13:57] <Mmike> Fatal Error: Mysql is not supported in your PHP, recompile and try again.
[13:57] <Mmike> krasno
[13:57] <Mmike> idem doma
[13:58] <tonil> Mmike, ti si me pitao za project cars u 11 mjesecu 2013,pamtim to,krajem ove godine izlazi steam os odnosno nativna
[14:00] <tonil> http://www.cinemablend.com/images/gallery/s54294/Project_Cars_13650196846704.jpg
[14:00] <tonil> je lijepa u pm http://www.wmdportal.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/09/013.png
[14:10] <BotaniCar> zakaj si ljudi koji pohadjaju *konferencije ne kupe normalnu ( ne dobru, normalnu) slusalicu/mikrofon/kameru ... jebate, umrem dok si prispodobim kaj je netko promumljao
[14:11] <jelly> s/pohadjaju/organiziraju/ ?
[14:12] <BotaniCar> nene, pohadjaju. Ljudi se zakace na konferens mastera, mumljaju i ne kuzim ku**a kaj pricaju, dok hstera i pojedine ucesnike cujem kristalno jasno
[14:12] <jelly> ah, mislis na conference call
[14:12] <BotaniCar> ma,da, lud sam
[14:12] <BotaniCar> Imam osjecaj da cu smrsaviti od naprezanja :)
[14:15] <jelly> "I apologize, dear colleagues, but I can't hear or understand much of what Alice and Bob say and I may ignore any of their replies at will. Please do not be offended, after the call you will get find a written offer to FUCKING BUY DECENT MIKES FOR YOU BASTERDS. -- With kindest regards, Bot"
[14:15] <BotaniCar> THAT !! YISSSS!
[14:16] <BotaniCar> Samo da to prevedem u indijski-poslovni engleski ( dodam veliku kolicinu "good sir" i slicnog ) :D
[14:19] <jelly> onda s/dear/most highly esteemed/
[14:20] <BotaniCar> :) Vidim da imas iskustva s vrijedjanjem suradnika u rukavicama :)
[14:20] <tonil> dajte ukucajte u youtube remix neke pjesme
[14:20] <tonil> sto vam izbaci kao preporuku?
[14:20] <tonil> od youtuba
[14:20] <BotaniCar> Severinu !
[14:20] <tonil> "Did you mean: Darude - Sandstorm by Darude"
[14:20] <tonil> getting trolled by google service
[14:21] <tonil> :/
[14:21] <jelly> damn, napisao sam "never gonna give you up remix"
[14:21] <BotaniCar> aww
[14:21] <jelly> https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=sandstorm+remix
[14:21] <jelly> sounds legit
[14:22] <tonil> https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=shake+that+eminem+remix
[14:22] <BotaniCar> https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=ki%C5%A1e+jesenje+remix
[14:22] <tonil> lol
[14:22] <tonil> :D
[14:22] <tonil> dnevna doza humora je dobra za zdravlje!
[14:23] <jelly> pa bas i pase sandstorm
[14:23] <BotaniCar> oh, konferencija gotova, srecom sam uspio razluciti "thank you all, we'll hear from each other" :)
[14:23] <BotaniCar> Odem ! PusaBok :)
[14:23] <jelly> tonil: a sta u njemackoj gdje GEMA sigurno ne da Darude
[14:23] <jelly> a? a?
[14:25] <jelly> Stop. The Rock!
[14:25] <jelly> isto ima trcanje, i cucka i vrzmo reci trance
[14:35] <SilverSpace> http://gizmodo.com/googles-chromebit-turns-any-tv-into-a-chrome-pc-for-und-1694793903
[14:40] <jelly> "And Chinese companies have been selling Android HDMI dongle-computers for nearly a year," the fuck
[14:40] <jelly> otkud su ovi ispali
[14:44] <jelly> MK802 je iz 2012
[14:46] <SilverSpace> zato sam i stavio link
[14:47] <SilverSpace> za 100$ kupis stroj
[14:47] <jelly> al ono, sam gizmodo je pisao o tim stickovima vec odavno
[14:52] <Mmike> tonil, znam sve! :)
[14:52] <Mmike> tonil, kolega ubuntator mi pokazao sad kad smo se druzili u amerk'i :)
[14:52] <Mmike> vileni, project cars! :)
[16:05] <ivoks> kak smo mi optereceni srbijom
[16:05] <ivoks> to je ono kaj ja velim
[16:05] <ivoks> kaj vas koji k boli briga kaj se tamo desava
[16:06] <ivoks> manje znamo o bjelovaru nego li o beogradu
[16:06] <Mmike> molim?
[16:06] <ivoks> koji smo mi idioti
[16:06] <Mmike> ne moze u satoru drugacije da se prica!
[16:06] <ivoks> ma citam portale
[16:06] <Mmike> pitaj SilverSpacea, on je up-to-date on the subject :)
[16:17] <ivoks> ubuntu u switchevima
[16:19] <SilverSpace> Žirafa može živjeti bez vode duže nego deve.
[16:20] <SilverSpace> ivoks: to i ja kazem jebo ih srbija ali nase novine i portali pisu kaj se u begesu dogada vise nego u zg
[16:21] <SilverSpace> boli me kurac za koncert u beogradu ili pretstavu
[16:21] <SilverSpace> ili koj je koga ta ubio
[16:22] <SilverSpace> kineski zid podignut
[16:24] <SilverSpace> http://pixelizam.com/
[16:24] <SilverSpace> odlicni portal
[16:43] <SilverSpace> chrome://flags/
[16:43] <SilverSpace> za ovo nisam znao
[16:43] <SilverSpace> chrome://flash/
[16:46] <SilverSpace> chrome://chrome-urls/
[16:46] <SilverSpace> puno toga ima
[17:15] <Mmike> Flash: Software only, hardware acceleration unavailable
[17:15] <Mmike> waat?
[17:15] <ivoks> zna netko kako u google sheetu zbrojiti celije u rangeu koje imaju odredjenu pozadinsku boju?
[17:16] <Mmike> pretpostavljam da moras macro ili neki drek napisati za to
[17:16] <ivoks> mater im
[17:17] <ivoks> mozda sam nasao
[17:18] <ivoks> jesam :)
[17:40] <Mmike> znal' netko neki webuiliki mailinglist manager/
[17:40] <Mmike> u smislu da imam subscribere i da ih onda mogu spamat kad mi dodje
[17:40] <ivoks> chipmunk
[17:40] <Mmike> phplist je prebugovit
[17:40] <ivoks> guglaj chimp mailing list
[17:41] <ivoks> ja sam to outsourcao
[17:41] <ivoks> ima plugin za wordpress
[17:42] <Mmike> da, nesmijem
[17:42] <Mmike> mora bit kod ovih
[17:43] <Mmike> nece extra nesto
[17:43] <Mmike> sad hoce da im programiram to
[17:43] <Mmike> pa jebemti
[19:08] <obruT> jel koristi tko clamav ? koliko to cudo kaska za komercijalnim rjesenjima u trazenju raznoraznog malwarea i trojanaca po fajlovima ?
[19:17] <jelly> ovisi koliko dodatnih baza naguras u njega http://sanesecurity.com/usage/signatures/
[19:19] <jelly> ne znam za razni malware, al za viruse je tu negdje ko i svi ostali
[20:29] <vileni> Mmike: sto sa project cars? :)
[20:31] <Mmike> pa super-duper igra native za linux :)
[20:31] <Mmike> ok
[20:31] <Mmike> jebemti openstack :)
[20:32] <Mmike> u biti
[20:32] <Mmike> openstack je kul
[20:32] <Mmike> jebemti neutron! :)
[20:32] <vileni> Mmike: a native je? to nisam znao
[20:33] <Mmike> pa za steamos
[20:33] <vileni> ja sam zadnje dobio asseto corsa, i dobra igra, ali nemam volje bas bez volana
[20:35] <Mmike> kupit cu ovo i volan i sic i sve
[20:36] <vileni> hehe
[20:38] <SilverSpace> lol super-duper je omiljena postapalica od Franka
[20:41] <jelly> sa lol ili bez?
[20:41] <Mmike> super-duper :)
[20:43] <obruT> Mmike: ja cem vjerojatno uskoro dici openstack na jednoj testnoj platformi.. bas me zanima
[20:43] <Mmike> obruT, koji dio? :)
[20:43] <Mmike> (koji dio te zanima)
[20:44] <Mmike> obruT, redhat/ubuntu?
[20:44] <obruT> redhat
[20:44] <Mmike> lame
[20:44] <jelly> lovely dovely
[20:45] <obruT> redhat nam je standard u kompaniji... a s ovo nesto ubuntua na terrastreamu s openstackom se nisu bas nesto proslavili :)
[20:46] <obruT> hmm, mozda nije terrastream
[20:46] <obruT> nisam sad siguran u kojem projektu
[20:47] <Mmike> sto znaci terrastream?
[20:47] <obruT> ne znam jel to sto znaci, ali to je buducnost :)
[20:47] <Mmike> :D
[20:47] <obruT> brza mreza, bazirana na optici, sto manje elemenata, sve ipv6 :)
[20:49] <jelly> bojim se pitati sto je bilo prije ako nije bila optika
[20:50] <Mmike> idem lec
[20:50] <Mmike> jelly, mogo bi neke mandarine opet isfurat
[20:50] <Mmike> reda radi :)
[21:11] <SilverSpace> jelly: jes li sto narucivao odavde banggood.com
[21:12] <SilverSpace> jelly: bez lol
[21:12] <SilverSpace> :)
[21:12] <jelly> ne, previse oglasa imaju posvuda za moj ukus
[21:13] <SilverSpace> vidim da su nesto jeftijiji od dc
[21:13] <SilverSpace> dx
[21:25] <SilverSpace> Ubuntu 15.04 dali dolazi sa systemd?
[21:53] <SilverSpace> ovaj vip je stvarnu u kujcu nemaju ni jedan posten telefon i prvi puta razmisljam dakupim u ducanu telefon ili da odem od njih
[22:30] <frainfreeze> Tele2 FTW
[22:31] <frainfreeze> Obozavam svoj t2. Platim svaka 3 mjeseca 50 kn i hebe mi se za sve.
[22:31] <frainfreeze> lipa po sekundi a koliko pricam imat cu za do kraja zivota.
[22:42] <jelly> tele2 throttla upload bw
[22:44] <jelly> osim toga su ok za ono sto ja koristim (tele2carnet data-only)
[23:43] <frainfreeze> noc'
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[00:03] <BlackDalek> hmmm.. I suspect it has something to do with the fact that the mac says it is "paired" with the ubuntu computer, but not "connected".. Perhaps sending files via bluetooth from mac to ubuntu is just impossible?
[00:05] <avansledright> bluetooth is platform independent
[00:06] <avansledright> as long as the devices are paired and connected it should be possible
[00:06] <avansledright> question is why would you send files via bluetooth? are they not networked?
[00:08] <BlackDalek> avansledright, yeah... they are not currently networked. My ubuntu computer does not belong on here at this location where the mac is. Just thought bluetooth might be a quick way to transfer the files instead of connecting it temporarily to the network.
[00:08] <BlackDalek> avansledright, but not to worry. I just emailed it instead.
[00:09] <avansledright> BlackDalek always a viable option
[00:12] <nik_unity> hi
[00:12] <nik_unity> I am seeing errors when trying to access https pages in ubuntu
[00:12] <nik_unity> running apache2
[00:12] <nik_unity> ssl_error_rx_record_too_long)
[00:12] <nik_unity> The page you are trying to view cannot be shown because the authenticity of the received data could not be verified.
[00:12] <nik_unity> this is what I see
[00:12] <nik_unity> can someone help me troubleshoot this
[00:13] <avansledright> nik_unity your security settings are too high
[00:13] <nik_unity> avansledright like which settings
[00:13] <nik_unity> file permissions?
[00:13] <avansledright> more than likely your actual browser settings
[00:13] <owl_> flash crashes most of the time when I resize the video in youtube
[00:14] <avansledright> nik_unity also check http://stackoverflow.com/questions/119336/ssl-error-rx-record-too-long-and-apache-ssl
[00:14] <avansledright> owl_ is flash properly installed?
[00:14] <owl_> how can I tell if it's "properly" installed? It runs most of the time.
[00:15] <owl_> I have adobe-flashplayer
[00:15] <avansledright> have you updated it?
[00:16] <owl_> avansledright: yes
[00:17] <owl_> adobe-flashplugin*
[00:17] <avansledright> http://www.adobe.com/software/flash/about/ does your version match the up to date list in the lower box?
[00:18] <true78_> ok i post my error at paste.ubuntu.com now what
[00:18] <zykotick9> true78_: you need to share the actual link
[00:19] <true78_> http://paste.ubuntu.com/10715566/
[00:19] <owl_> avansledright: yes, 11.2...
[00:19] <_X_C_V_B_> I need a good gtk theme
[00:20] <avansledright> owl_ what browser are you using?
[00:20] <owl_> avansledright: firefox
[00:20] <bprompt> owl_: you don't happen to run google chrome by any chance? or chromium?
[00:20] <owl_> no I wouldn't install them on my pristine OS
[00:20] <owl_> what's software made by an advertising company called? adware
[00:21] <avansledright> owl_ https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/Flash
[00:21] <bprompt> owl_: just as a note, adobe has stopped, for a while, support for flash, however, chromium-engine browsers, include the flash plugin, chromium or opera-beta or google chrome, come with flash 15
[00:21] <owl_> gnash worth considering?
[00:22] <bprompt> owl_: I'd say, nope, I've never used it, but reviews on it, wern't so great
[00:22] <nik_unity> avansledright
[00:22] <nik_unity> stackoverflow link helped
[00:22] <true78_> is lightspark any good for flash?
[00:23] <nik_unity> I did run this command
[00:23] <nik_unity> a2ensite default-ssl
[00:23] <nik_unity> before
[00:23] <avansledright> did you reboot apache after you ran that command?
[00:23] <nik_unity> after running that and restarting
[00:23] <nik_unity> now I did
[00:23] <nik_unity> before I remember I did
[00:24] <nik_unity> and rebooted the machine multiple times, before trying the same thing now again
[00:24] <nik_unity> any way thanks!! avansledright
[00:24] <avansledright> nick_unity no problem!
[00:25] <tgm4883> true78_: perhaps one of the linaro channels would be able to help https://www.linaro.org/contact/irc/
[00:27] <k1l> true78_: you could ask in #ubuntu-arm or ask the community who supports your arm board for experience with that issue
[00:28] <ooppss> hello I am trying to mount an encrypted Ubuntu home dir from a live Lubuntu stick
[00:29] <ooppss> i checked out this guide http://askubuntu.com/questions/60601/unwrapping-passphrase-and-inserting-into-the-user-session-keyring-failed
[00:29] <ooppss> because ecryptfs-recover-private does not work
[00:29] <ooppss> so then i tried this steps http://askubuntu.com/questions/31675/decrypt-home-from-separate-partition-after-re-install/34169#34169
[00:29] <avansledright> ooppss check http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=940904
[00:31] <ooppss> avansledright: but i dont have lvm, just encrypted home dir
[00:32] <avansledright> how was it encrypted?
[00:32] <ooppss> it asks you on install to encrypt it, and then i gave my login password
[00:32] <ooppss> so the passphrase = my login password
[00:32] <avansledright> http://askubuntu.com/questions/238047/how-do-i-mount-an-encrypted-home-directory-on-another-ubuntu-machine
[00:33] <ooppss> ecryptfs-recover-private used to work fine but now doesn't
[00:34] <ooppss> avansledright: yeah those seem the steps that i followed, but when i mount my homedir, the filenames are like ECRYPTFS_FNEK_ENCRYPTED.FWb2-z7jOWonC-Tnab9zTUbFH25CpbGxm1facc.k6XnI5ESwszY--
[00:36] <avansledright> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EncryptedPrivateDirectory#Live_CD_method_of_opening_a_encrypted_home_directory
[00:36] <avansledright> another article.
[00:37] <avansledright> that one is much more in-depth ooppss
[00:57] <AgentBridges> setting up some image compression tools, steps say to install libjepg. i tried but nothing in apt-get that is exact match, tons of options, not sure which to pick: http://pastie.org/10065942
[00:57] <apt-get> hello apt-get reporting in
[00:58] <rootraid> hello
[00:59] <daftykins> hi
[01:10] <Guest76952> join #ubuntu-cn
[01:11] <daftykins> you need a /
[01:11] <`hypermist`> Sorry k1l its my znc when i disconnect from irc it changes
[01:38] <Audaces> How do you add things to the path on Ubuntu?
[01:40] <somsip> Audaces: export PATH=$PATH:/new/path
[01:40] <Audaces> ty
[01:41] <Audaces> somsip, just for interest tho where is the actual path file at?7
[01:42] <somsip> Audaces: usually that would be added to .bashrc, .profile or .bash_aliases. It's an environmental variables possibly set up in /etc/bashrc
[01:42] <Audaces> Thanks
[01:44] <Audaces> somsip, I have alias update='sudo apt-get update' added to .profile yet in terminal there is no change
[01:44] <apt-get> hello apt-get here
[01:44] <Audaces> hellos
[01:45] <somsip> Audaces: . ~/.profile to effect the changes
[01:45] <Audaces> ah
[01:45] <Audaces> I just ran sudo .profile
[01:45] <somsip> Audaces: and you need to ". ~/.profile" or "source ~/.profile" (. is shorthand for source)
[01:46] <hc0d3r> i trying compile a file, but it fails
[01:46] <hc0d3r> undefined reference to symbol: «CRYPTO_malloc@@OPENSSL_1.0.0»
[01:46] <hc0d3r> i have compile with flags -ldl -lssl -lcrypto
[01:46] <Audaces> somsip is there anyway to auto run that on boot?
[01:47] <hc0d3r> /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libcrypto.so.1.0.0: error adding symbols: DSO missing from command line
[01:47] <somsip> Audaces: .profile runs when you open a new terminal
[01:47] <veebull> Just noticed that the right-click menu on the launcher icons isn't working anymore on my desktop...?
[01:47] <Audaces> my alias doesnt work without running the ". ~/.profile"
[01:48] <somsip> Audaces: my preference is to put them in .bash_aliases which is run every time a new shell is created. NOt sure if .profile might only get triggered on login...
[01:49] <veebull> no way to open a new window or instance of any of the apps in my dock
[01:49] <hc0d3r> any help ? :)
[01:51] <estudiante> hello
[01:51] <daftykins> hi
[01:51] <hc0d3r> hi
[01:51] <hc0d3r> anyone can help me ?
[01:52] <estudiante> vcxz
[01:52] <daftykins> !patience | hc0d3r
[01:52] <estudiante> De donde eres?
[01:52] <Audaces> hc0d3r what are you trying to compile?
[01:52] <uflaig> help, storage devices are not automounting anymore!
[01:52] <daftykins> english only please, estudiante - #ubuntu-es for Spanish
[01:52] <uflaig> Why is that?
[01:53] <estudiante> Wtf
[01:53] <Audaces> uflaig I have issues with mtp devices mounting at all :/
[01:53] <hc0d3r> Audaces, i code made by a friend, sorry for flood
[01:53] <estudiante> .l.
[01:53] <uflaig> Audaces: what do you mean by that
[01:54] <somsip> hc0d3r: then you wont get support here. Maybe ##c or ask your friend
[01:54] <daftykins> estudiante: either ask a support question in English, go to #ubuntu-es for Spanish, or #ubuntu-offtopic for general chat :)
[01:54] <estudiante> Chupame la pija
[01:55] <daftykins> estudiante: it's very childish to hide behind another language and be rude to someone who is just telling you the rules :)
[01:55] <rishikl> Hi
[01:55] <Audaces> Hello
[01:55] <estudiante> Hello
[01:56] <uflaig> my device is not automounting anymore
[01:56] <AegNuddel> ok I keep getting system program error
[01:56] <daftykins> uflaig: what file system is it?
[01:56] <rishikl> how to check from which ip http request is coming
[01:56] <AegNuddel> yhe package is ntp
[01:56] <AegNuddel> the
[01:56] <neldogz> is it true that the Ubuntu server kernel is diffrent from the desktop version?
[01:56] <daftykins> neldogz: no, not been true for years
[01:57] <daftykins> used to be.
[01:57] <uflaig> daftykins: ntfs, when I mount it by hand (sudo mount -t ntfs /dev/sdc1 testfolder), it works
[01:57] <daftykins> uflaig: ah ok, i wondered if it might not have been safely unmounted previous. no idea then
[01:57] <uflaig> my issue is really just that it doesn't automount when I plug in this device via usb
[01:58] <neldogz> daftykins: in the official Ubuntu book (8th edition) it states that the most significant diffrence between the two is the custom server kernel. This kernel employs an internal timer frequency of 100hz instead of the desktop default of 250hz and uses the deadline I/O scheduler instead of the desktop CFQ scheduler.. also states that it contains a batch of other minor tweaks for virtualization, memory support and routing
[01:59] <AegNuddel> a few weeks ago I upgraded to percise, and this issue has been going on since the start
[01:59] <daftykins> neldogz: mmhmm, out of date book ;)
[02:00] * AegNuddel wonders if there is any way to copy the info in the crash log
[02:00] <neldogz> daftykins: this isthe most recent book covering Ubuntu 14, published last year
[02:01] <somsip> !pasebinit | Audaces
[02:01] <daftykins> neldogz: unless it's referring to the low latency kernel, it's wrong
[02:01] <geosmin> how difficult would it be to install ubuntu to a btrfs subvolume?
[02:01] <somsip> !pastebinit | Audaces
[02:02] <neldogz> daftykins: well then it is a diffrent kernel then isnt it?
[02:02] <daftykins> neldogz: *sigh* but i'm the one joining the dots suggesting that's what they might mean, *BUT* server does not use the LL kernel by default.
[02:02] <daftykins> so it's still wrong
[02:02] <Audaces> pastebin my mtp mounting errors somsip?
[02:03] <AegNuddel> I have the report a problem window. I can get a log of the information. What I would like to know is if there is a way to copy this information...
[02:03] <neldogz> daftykins: reason i am asking is because I have read lots of conflicting information online, figured i buy the book.. per the statement above one would have to assume its the kernel that is installed by default
[02:03] <daftykins> !manual
[02:03] <daftykins> neldogz: just a guess but i wonder if they speak of this in the above
[02:03] <eikon81g> AegNuddel, you could just submit it using the tool..? I believe to look into the issue manually you need to use a debugger
[02:04] <somsip> AegNuddel: use a pastebin, or take a screenshot and use that in an image pastebin if it's a GUI window
[02:04] <neldogz> daftykins: the manual ?
[02:04] <AegNuddel> yes a gui window
[02:04] <daftykins> sounds a bit basic come to think of it
[02:04] <daftykins> anyway i'm off o/
[02:04] <AegNuddel> may take a few to get all info lol
[02:04] <eikon81g> later daftykins
[02:05] <somsip> !paste | AegNuddel
[02:05] <AegNuddel> I have reported but I don't think that will do much. I have before too.
[02:05] <eikon81g> what's the issue? have you actually looked into the bug reports or reports that seem related to your issue?
[02:06] <eikon81g> They may already have an open report on it AegNuddel
[02:06] <AegNuddel> ntpd crashes
[02:06] <AegNuddel> er ntp
[02:06] <AegNuddel> no d
[02:06] <eikon81g> clamscan -r --bell -i /are you using Ubuntu 14.04? I know I am on XFCE and it's all bugged out trying to use ntp
[02:06] <AegNuddel> oh wait
[02:06] <eikon81g> it's been reported and is a known issue..
[02:06] <neldogz> daftykins: TheUbuntuServerEditionisanoperatingsystemoptimizedtoperform multi-usertasks.
[02:06] <AegNuddel> yes d
[02:07] <AegNuddel> in another spot
[02:07] <neldogz> daftykins: pulled that out of the ubunut-manual.. so it is an optimized kernel
[02:07] <AegNuddel> ah
[02:07] <daftykins> no.
[02:07] <eikon81g> sorry I accidentally pasted a command I was using. lol
[02:07] <daftykins> it's the same kernel
[02:07] <AegNuddel> ok so it's not just me
[02:07] <daftykins> neldogz: but i'm leaving now so no more highlights please :)
[02:07] <eikon81g> Aeg what are you running? XFCE 14.10 is affected..
[02:08] <eikon81g> they say it's fixed in 15.04
[02:08] <neldogz> daftykins: why are you denying the fact that its an optimized kernel?
[02:08] <neldogz> daftykins: its in the book and the manual
[02:08] <eikon81g> technically you could try to install ntpd from the software center but I think I hit a hitch doing that as well so I stuck with manual settings and just check it periodically to make sure it's staying up to date..
[02:09] <eikon81g> For instance if your time resets everytime you power down then you may need to change out your cmos battery on the MoBo
[02:09] <daftykins> neldogz: because i don't interpret that sentence the same as you - and they're the *exact* same package on both desktop and server :)
[02:09] <daftykins> now i am off
[02:10] <AegNuddel> er trying to find it
[02:10] <neldogz> daftykins: while it might be the same package.. it is modified
[02:10] <daftykins> no you don't understand, but i'm done now :)
[02:10] <AegNuddel> er trying to find itwhere do I look for that info again?
[02:10] <eikon81g> tomato tomaato..
[02:11] <eikon81g> for the version OS you are running?
[02:11] <neldogz> daftykins: trying to have the last word doesnt mean you are right
[02:11] <AegNuddel> yes
[02:11] <eikon81g> I use hardinfo it's simple I would download it from the software center and when it installs open it and hit Operating System and it details the machines info there
[02:11] <daftykins> i was actually beginning to get the same impression of yourself, as you seem to insist on coming back :) but that's cool, i just don't have the time to pander to your obsessive opinion :)
[02:11] <AegNuddel> 12.04 I think
[02:11] <daftykins> goodnight
[02:12] <AegNuddel> but not sure
[02:12] <eikon81g> in terminal type: uname -a
[02:12] <neldogz> daftykins: its not obession.. it's fact vs your opinion on what you perceived
[02:12] <eikon81g> you know what that wont give you your ubuntu version only the kernal info
[02:12] <eikon81g> 1 sec
[02:13] <AegNuddel> Linux briana-laptop 3.2.0-77-generic #114-Ubuntu SMP Tue Mar 10 17:25:28 UTC 2015 i686 athlon i386 GNU/Linux
[02:13] <AegNuddel> briana@briana-laptop:~$
[02:13] <AegNuddel> oh heh
[02:13] <eikon81g> ok lsb_release -a
[02:13] <eikon81g> try that one..
[02:14] <eikon81g> I would still get hardinfo from the software center..
[02:14] <eikon81g> it's a good one.
[02:14] <neldogz> Anyone here from Canonical can confirm whether or not the server version of Ubuntu contains an optimized kernel?
[02:14] <eikon81g> !ubuntu_server
[02:15] <eikon81g> !ubuntu-server
[02:15] <eikon81g> try there neldogz
[02:15] <AegNuddel> Description: Ubuntu 12.04.5 LTS
[02:15] <cxdvty> Is torrenting programs illegal?
[02:15] <eikon81g> depends on your country's copyright laws cxdvty
[02:15] <neldogz> eikon81g: thank you for that.. that confirms it
[02:16] <eikon81g> here in the US it is.. cxdvty
[02:16] <AegNuddel> cxdvty, it also depends on the program.
[02:16] <eikon81g> np neldogz
[02:16] <cxdvty> eikon81g:If I use tor browser can people see what I am doing?
[02:16] <neldogz> daftykins: ^^
[02:16] <AegNuddel> If a program is freeware, and allows unabated sharing ...
[02:16] <eikon81g> also yes, if the software is licensed and copy written it would be illegal to share and use that program. .
[02:16] <rww> depends on the license
[02:17] <goddard> i am using gdm and i changed the desktop to system default and it is just an X how can i get back to the GDM login screen if my account auto logins?
[02:17] <rww> Linux is "licensed and copy written", for example
[02:17] <eikon81g> rww good point
[02:17] <AegNuddel> it is?
[02:17] <cxdvty> !trusty
[02:17] <rww> AegNuddel: yes, Linux is distributed under the GNU General Public License v2, which is a copyright license
[02:18] <AegNuddel> I did not know that.
[02:18] <eikon81g> any way the torbrowser packages uses proxies and a setup that more or less hides your activity
[02:19] <eikon81g> cxdvty, you would also want to use a vpn service like hide.me or something
[02:19] <eikon81g> and a torbrowser package..
[02:19] <eikon81g> and not your credit card to pay for services, use bitcoins.. just saying
[02:20] <eikon81g> good luck, that convo would prolly go to ubuntu-offtopic
[02:20] <eikon81g> !off-topic
[02:20] <monk12> hello all, im trying to install MST support for my laptop/dock cause whenever I try to extend my monitor, it stretches the desktop and then kinda freezes ubuntu (mirroring is fine though)...
[02:21] <AegNuddel> I wonder if my issue has to do anything with the fact that my computer had not been turned on since 2009, and I had to manually reset the date to get it working...
[02:21] <eikon81g> monk12, did you install proprietary drivers for your video card or are you using the default one?
[02:21] <cxdvty> Is torrenting photoshop illegal
[02:21] <monk12> i see these instructions under the Linux Kernel area: ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1296656
[02:21] <AegNuddel> YES cxdvty
[02:21] <monk12> AegNuddel, Im using nvidia-346 and not the Intel drivers (Optimus)
[02:21] <daftykins> aww neldogz quit
[02:21] <cxdvty> what abnout sony vegas?
[02:21] <daftykins> http://askubuntu.com/questions/31081/whats-the-difference-between-the-server-version-and-the-desktop-version
[02:22] <AegNuddel> YES cxdvty
[02:22] <daftykins> ah well, peeps can enjoy their blissful ignorance :)
[02:22] <eikon81g> AegNuddel, it's prolly your cmos battery, does the time stay correct when you unplug the power supply and let it sit for 30 seconds and plug it back in? Or does it go to 12:00A
[02:22] <eikon81g> ?
[02:22] <daftykins> server kernel == desktop kernel
[02:22] <AegNuddel> it stays.
[02:22] <semitones> Hello! I have a problem with my laptop trackpad. When I resume from suspend, the trackpad behaves erratically. It's acting this way right now. Can I have someone's assistance in troubleshooting?
[02:22] <eikon81g> cxdvty, use gimp!
[02:22] <eikon81g> !gimp
[02:22] <monk12> in that thread i posted, it says ins in the 'mainline kernel since version 3.17... so since i have ubuntu 14.10, kernel 3.18.9, does that mean i should have MST support and no need to dl that kernel?
[02:23] <cxdvty> is gimp easy to use and as advanced as photoshop?
[02:23] <eikon81g> aeg if it stays then you may be good on the battery
[02:24] <eikon81g> one it's set in the BIOS and you set your time/date and region it should stay on your machine.. is it like losing or gaining an hour?
[02:24] <OerHeks> cxdvty, photoshop is not that easy, gimp is less powerfull
[02:24] <monk12> eikon81g, whoops meant to address my comment to you. using nvidia-346. and not the Intel graphics (could use prime-switch to switch to Intel if MST support is better on Intel)
[02:24] <eikon81g> but gimp is free and you wont have to break the law to use it..
[02:24] <AegNuddel> eikon81g, no... it even update for daylight savings time right
[02:25] <eikon81g> so you are just wanting to use ntp?
[02:25] <AegNuddel> eikon81g, I'm just wanting the error to disappear!
[02:26] <eikon81g> monk12, that is a good question, I am no expert but I would say that google may lead you in the right direction with that.. I wouldn't know which is better but if one is not working you could always try the other, ya know..?
[02:26] <eikon81g> lol AegNuddel, ocd much...?
[02:26] <cxdvty> what do you do for fun on ubuntu lol
[02:26] <eikon81g> jk did you try to install ntp from terminal?
[02:26] <eikon81g> cxdvty, learn..
[02:27] <eikon81g> what do you do for fun on Windows? Why is the sky blue..?
[02:27] <eikon81g> lol
[02:28] <eikon81g> I just like learning, I am really well equipped on windows but I am enjoying linux and learning more every day
[02:28] <monk12> yah. i was just wondering based on that wording on that page (posted the wrong one: http://cweiske.de/tagebuch/thinkpad-ultradock-screens.htm )... "[the kernel patches] are integrated in the mainline kernel since version 3.17 . " does that mean the 3.18 kernel def would have that patch then?
[02:28] <monk12> eikon81g, ^
[02:28] <AegNuddel> disagree about GIMP being LESS powerful. So many plug-ins available. If you literally installed them all (for which you would need an impossible amount of space) you'd have a pogram many times more capable than Photosh .. op (I was tempted to make those last two letters I T !)
[02:28] <eikon81g> monk12, yea, no need to add them manually..
[02:28] <cxdvty> skateboarding games on ubuntu?
[02:28] <AegNuddel> eikon81g, just gets annoying at times
[02:28] <eikon81g> lol AegNuddel
[02:29] <monk12> eikon81g, darn k. still not working. let me try switching to the Intel graphics driver and retrying it. thanks eikon81g
[02:29] <eikon81g> cxdvty, get genymotion and play some android apks
[02:29] <eikon81g> np
[02:29] <semitones> Let me try asking in a different way -- anyone know how to ask my laptop to redetect the trackpad?
[02:29] <eikon81g> may need to log out and back in after making changes to graphics..
[02:29] <eikon81g> just a thought
[02:29] <cxdvty> how do i play android games on my pc when most of them are for touch screen
[02:30] <eikon81g> semitones, do you have a hardkey in the Fkeys that disable / enables it?
[02:30] <eikon81g> does it show up in hardinfo semitones ??
[02:30] <eikon81g> cxdvty, yet another learning experience.. let us know :P
[02:31] <eikon81g> someone else was having an issue with a track pad the other night semitones his drivers were not installed..
[02:31] <semitones> eikon81g: I do, but that hardkey doesn't function properly in #ubuntu. What happens is, if my laptop is ever suspended for a significant amount of time, when it resumes, the trackpad is all screwy. The pointer doesn't move very far, sometimes it scrolls the screen when you try to move the pointer up or down, etc. Everything i've tried doesn't fix it, but after 5 or 10 minutes sometimes it goes back to normal. I've been watching /var/log/syslog th
[02:31] <eikon81g> hardinfo will tell you if it is detected and installed..
[02:32] <semitones> oh my bad
[02:32] <eikon81g> semitones, maybe you can bind a new key to function it?
[02:32] <eikon81g> then once you suspend and come back to the machine you can just enable/disable..
[02:33] <eikon81g> it's not the driver. . it's something else good info there..
[02:33] <eikon81g> I am a newbie so maybe someone else can chime in here too..
[02:33] <eikon81g> is it like a SUPER-F button that enables / disables the keyboard?
[02:34] <semitones> eikon81g: I'm installing hardinfo now. The trackpad on/off button works in windows, but in ubuntu it just displays a notification, but doesn't do anything with the trackpad
[02:34] <semitones> eikon81g: it's a separate button all by itself that turns red when the trackpad is off. In ubuntu, pressing it doesn't make it turn red
[02:34] <eikon81g> humm when the issue pops up have you tried to enable/disable?
[02:34] <eikon81g> ok ok
[02:34] <eikon81g> humm
[02:35] <semitones> eikon81g: I've tried modprobing it on and off, but that doesn't work
[02:35] <eikon81g> then you are a step ahead of me..
[02:35] <eikon81g> so maybe you can make a script to disable and re-enable the driver when you resume?
[02:37] <semitones> eikon81g: how do I find what the driver is?
[02:37] <eikon81g> look at this semitones
[02:37] <eikon81g> http://ubuntuguide.net/quickly-enabledisable-laptop-touchpad-with-touchpad-indicator-in-ubuntu-10-10
[02:38] <eikon81g> in the hardinfo program under devices > input devices
[02:38] <eikon81g> mine is a synaptic.. "SynPS/2 Synaptics TouchPad"
[02:38] <semitones> eikon81g: I see input devices under general information (ALPS) but under input devices there's nothing
[02:38] <eikon81g> humm is it working now?
[02:39] <semitones> eikon81g: yes
[02:40] <semitones> eikon81g: /var/log/syslog says the following (but it says this even when the trackpad is malfunctioning) Mar 31 22:20:24 linuxlaptop kernel: [23001.791637] input: ALPS PS/2 Device as /devices/platform/i8042/serio1/input/input20
[02:40] <semitones> Mar 31 22:20:24 linuxlaptop kernel: [23001.822063] input: AlpsPS/2 ALPS GlidePoint as /devices/platform/i8042/serio1/input/input19
[02:40] <eikon81g> ok
[02:40] <eikon81g> so it looks like it's atleast recognized..
[02:41] <eikon81g> did you see that trackpad indicator that they were using on the link I posted?
[02:41] <eikon81g> I wonder if using something like that would make it quit bugging out..?
[02:42] <eikon81g> it's from a ppa couldn't hurt to try if you want..?
[02:42] <eikon81g> sudo add-apt-repository ppa:atareao/atareao
[02:42] <eikon81g> sudo apt-get update
[02:42] <eikon81g> sudo apt-get install touchpad-indicator
[02:43] <apt-get> argh
[02:43] <eikon81g> lol whoops.
[02:43] <eikon81g> if that works then it trumps the script
[02:44] <viGtor_> hi! I'm using a 15Gb partition for / and now with almost everything installed i still have 10 free GB, i still need to install some stuff (cinelerra for example) and I'm afraid of running out of spaces... Should it get a bigger partition?
[02:44] <eikon81g> viGtor_, the saying goes, bigger is better.. LOL
[02:45] <viGtor_> fresh install is what is killing me :(
[02:45] <viGtor_> i have an 8 GB free partition, could i merge both?
[02:45] <viGtor_> without reinstallin i mean
[02:45] <eikon81g> did you install with VMS
[02:45] <eikon81g> ?
[02:45] <viGtor_> no idea :S
[02:46] <eikon81g> it was an option when I installed that supposedly made changing partition sizes easier
[02:46] <eikon81g> i think it was VMS. smh.
[02:46] <viGtor_> i choose a custom partition table so i guess i don't
[02:47] <eikon81g> viGtor_, it was LVM!! lol I am out of it..
[02:47] <viGtor_> no i don't
[02:47] <eikon81g> look here..http://www.howtogeek.com/114503/how-to-resize-your-ubuntu-partitions/
[02:48] <viGtor_> so 15 GB is not enough
[02:48] <eikon81g> I mean for me.. no
[02:48] <semitones> eikon81g: I saw the trackpad indicator but noticed that it's not updated for 14.04?
[02:48] <eikon81g> but if you have a decent sized external drive then you could prolly make it work just clean up after updates and installs..
[02:49] <eikon81g> this is on that page: Touchpad indicator is developed by atareao team, available in the PPA for Ubuntu 14.04, Ubuntu 13.10, Ubuntu 12.04.
[02:49] <eikon81g> is it missing from the PPA?
[02:52] <nmatrix9> What's the ubuntu chan to talk about off topic stuff?
[02:52] <Bashing-om> nmatrix9: #ubuntu-offtopic
[02:53] <eikon81g> !off-topic
[02:53] <nmatrix9> Thanks
[02:58] <semitones> eikon81g: ok, yeah it looks like it works actually. It's funny. In the preferences, none of the preferences do anything, but it did succeed in turning off my trackpad (i had to kill it via terminal, then modprobe psmouse to get it back :) So we'll see if it works next time I get the suspend problem
[02:59] <eikon81g> humm sounds liek you have a good handle on it, you are more talented than I.. glad I could atleast point you in a direction.. :P
[03:00] <semitones> eikon81g: I don't know really :p i've just been bashing myself at this problem for longer :)
[03:01] <semitones> eikon81g: this program won't work actually I think -- it's "keyboard shortcut" feature for enabling and disabling the trackpad won't actually do anything
[03:01] <eikon81g> lol, I am new to linux but it made sense in my head what needed to be done. glad you have a suitable fix for now..
[03:01] <semitones> eikon81g: do you know if there's any way to see what the program is doing when it does it?
[03:02] <eikon81g> bummer. yea, killing and modprobing sounds like the way to go..
[03:02] <eikon81g> that's a good question too.. i really don't
[03:03] <eikon81g> let me ask someone..
[03:03] <eikon81g> what program was it again?
[03:03] <eikon81g> the name of it..?
[03:04] <Aeiortv> Ubuntu's deal with Amazon is back on, check it out. Amazon just uploaded a video about it. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ
[03:04] <eikon81g> the indicator right?
[03:05] <eikon81g> too bad, I thought you were gonna rick roll us Aeiortv
[03:05] <eikon81g> oh wait.
[03:05] <TikiTika> Aeiortv, So why you want to share with us?
[03:05] <Aeiortv> april fools <3
[03:05] <cfhowlett> TikiTika, what day is today?
[03:05] <Ben64> Aeiortv: not here please
[03:05] <TikiTika> cfhowlett, April 1st
[03:05] <TikiTika> Fool day
[03:05] <eikon81g> !off-topic
[03:05] <Aeiortv> sorry ben64
[03:05] <eikon81g> lol
[03:06] <tunadogx> Screen turns off watching flash video
[03:06] <eikon81g> I gotta jet guys good luck. later semitones
[03:06] <eikon81g> !flash
[03:08] <tunadogx> eikon81g: it's installed. Screen turns off watching flash movies.
[03:08] <Ben64> screen turns off how, like screensaver?
[03:08] <farzeen> I get this error when executing some programs in ubuntu. What does this mean? "ICE default IO error handler doing an exit(), pid = 18995, errno = 11"
[03:08] <eikon81g> this is good..
[03:09] <tunadogx> Ben64 yes
[03:09] <Ben64> ok so turn off the screensaver or set it longer or something
[03:10] <farzeen> deleting ~/.ICEAuthority fixed it :)
[03:10] <Ben64> farzeen: be more careful what you use sudo for
[03:11] <tunadogx> Ben64: that's bummed
[03:11] <eikon81g> farzeen, I was reading that on another page.. your issue was intriguing
[03:11] <thomasha`> how can I tell what version of a package (libleveldb-dev) I installed with apt-get?
[03:12] <eikon81g> that was someone else's workaround as well
[03:12] <Ben64> thomasha`: apt-cache policy <package>
[03:12] <eikon81g> !synaptic
[03:12] <thomasha`> thx
[03:12] <eikon81g> night all
[03:13] <farzeen> thanks Ben64. do you know what might have caused that issue?
[03:13] <Ben64> farzeen: yes, improper usage of sudo, which is why i said be more careful
[03:14] <farzeen> like what?
[03:14] <Ben64> using it with graphical programs
[03:14] <wiak> does anyone know why this sed '/chmod=0700/a chown=rtorrent:rtorrent' /etc/supervisor/supervisord.conf command dont work?
[03:14] <wiak> am i missing quotes?
[03:14] <farzeen> I use sudo with gedit to edit config files
[03:15] <somsip> wiak: sed -i 's/pattern/changed' file
[03:15] <somsip> !gksudo | farzeen
[03:15] <Ben64> farzeen: use nano maybe
[03:16] <farzeen> thanks Ben64, somsip
[03:19] <wiak> somsip sed -i '/chmod=0700/a chown=rtorrent:rtorrent' /etc/supervisor/supervisord.conf
[03:19] <wiak> taht works bettere
[03:19] <wiak> :p
[03:20] <somsip> wiak: I'm surprised it works at all without 's/...' but there you go
[03:22] <Christopher-Were> Hi, I was wondering if you could help me. I looked on the Lubuntu IRC but nobody could fix it. I'm trying to get Lubuntu running on a VirtualBox VM and after install it's stuck in an 640x480 resolution. I've tried installing the Guest addons but that hasn't solved the problem
[03:23] <farzeen> try this command "xrandr -s 800x600"
[03:24] <farzeen> or you may try typing 'lxrandr' (without quotes) in a terminal, Christophere-Were
[03:25] <farzeen> *Chritopher-Were
[03:25] <farzeen> *Christopher-Were
[03:25] <somsip> !tab| farzeen
[03:25] <farzeen> wow! thanks somsip
[03:25] <fcomtois> Does anyone have experience mounting AFP shares using dolphin ?
[03:26] <Christopher-Were> "Size not found in available modules"
[03:26] <farzeen> oops!
[03:27] <farzeen> Christopher-Were, type xrandr only without any args and pastebin the output
[03:29] <Christopher-Were> http://pastebin.com/esL4grdH
[03:29] <AegNuddel> did you say there was an alternate program to ntp?
[03:30] <farzeen> Christopher-Were, are you using the latest virtualbox?
[03:31] <bodhi_zazen> Christopher-Were, not sure about VBOX, but KVM + spice rocks
[03:31] <Christopher-Were> It says I'm running the latest version. I've tried KVM on Quemu and I'm not impressed
[03:32] <farzeen> hmm.. could you post the vbox and lubuntu version here
[03:33] <Christopher-Were> It Lubuntu 15.04 beta and Virtualbox is 4.3.26
[03:33] <Ben64> you need to head over to #ubuntu+1 for support with 15.04
[03:34] <farzeen> i suspect that the beta version has broken support for virtual box display drivers :(
[03:35] <ericb_> I've got a lamp server running, and need help with port forwarding to view the server over the internet. Got a static IP, forwarded listening ports in my router, but it's not resolving to the lamp server. Read something about /etc/apache2/ports.conf and I don't know what to do with this. Anyone have any suggestions?
[03:35] <bodhi_zazen> Christopher-Were, http://askubuntu.com/questions/12578/adjusting-display-geometry-in-a-virtual-machine
[03:39] <farzeen> Christopher-Were, try sudo apt-get install virtualbox-guest-x11
[03:42] <ericb__> I've got a lamp server running, and need help with port forwarding to view the server over the internet. Got a static IP, forwarded listening ports in my router, but it's not resolving to the lamp server. Read something about /etc/apache2/ports.conf and I don't know what to do with this. Anyone have any suggestions?
[03:42] <avansledright> forward port 80 on your router to whatever port you have apache broadcasting on
[03:47] <zerowaitstate> ericb__: first of all, what's not resolving?
[03:48] <zerowaitstate> ericb__: resolving usually refers to DNS. Is that the problem?
[03:49] <Audaces> Whats the difference between 14.04 and 14.10?
[03:49] <ericb__> zerowaitstate:i meant resolving generally. the server is connected fine. im just not able to access it when i type in my ip, even though the ports are set to forward to it, it's acting like they're not
[03:49] <zerowaitstate> ericb__: what computer are you typing the IP from (one from your internal network, or one from the internet) ?
[03:50] <zerowaitstate> ericb__: the reason i ask is because some NAT routers will not loop back their external interface address
[03:51] <ericb__> zerowaitstate: yep, tried nat loopback (not sure if I did it right,) but I cant access it from my mobile phone or my pc on the same network
[03:51] <Audaces> I don't seem to be getting an option to upgrade to 14.1
[03:51] <zerowaitstate> ericb__: can you access it from your phone on the carrier network?
[03:51] <ericb__> zerowaitstate: nope
[03:52] <Christopher-Were> i'll try that now farzeen
[03:52] <zerowaitstate> ericb__: do you have the INPUT chain on iptables set to default deny?
[03:53] <ericb__> zerowaitstate: unless it is set as such by default no. ive got ufw installed but disabled. when i try to access my ip it shows a 404 page that is being sent from my router (it displayed before port forwarding)
[03:54] <zerowaitstate> ericb__: are you able to access the site from your internal network via the private IP?
[03:54] <ericb__> zerowaitstate: yes
[03:55] <zerowaitstate> ports.conf will not help you then. ports.conf controls what ports on the linux host apache listens on. if you can access via internal network, then ports.conf is working
[03:55] <zerowaitstate> ericb__: are you running virtual hosts in apache?
[03:55] <ericb__> zerowaitstate: kk thats what I was hoping. well it has to be something misconfigured in the router then right?
[03:56] <ericb__> zerowaitstate: nope
[03:56] <zerowaitstate> okay, then I'm thinking it is the router
[03:56] <zerowaitstate> you can run "tail -f" on the /var/log/apache2/access.log (I think that's right) to see incoming HTTP requests
[03:56] <zerowaitstate> that should help you determine if stuff is actually hitting the box or not
[03:57] <zerowaitstate> alternatively run tail -f /var/log/apache2/error.log to see malformed requests
[03:57] <Christopher-Were> Thanks farzeen, that works
[03:58] <zerowaitstate> ericb__: remember, if you are using standard port numbering, then port 80 is HTTP and 443 is HTTPS
[03:58] <cfhowlett> woah, what?! Suddenly, my /filesystem partition is completely full ... AND I have some kind of "overflow" partition active. What the hey? Where do I look to fix this?
[03:59] <cfhowlett> http://paste.ubuntu.com/10716394/
[04:01] <Bashing-om> cfhowlett: Sudden equals look at logs, no ?
[04:02] <cfhowlett> Bashing-om, yeah, just trying to locate which log is relevant
[04:02] <zerowaitstate> /var/log/syslog
[04:02] <cfhowlett> zerowaitstate, thank you. reading ...
[04:03] <Bashing-om> cfhowlett: cd /var/log ->> sudo du -sx * | sort -n . see which is so large .
[04:03] <ericb__> zerowaitstate: nothing in the error log. i noticed that the ports.conf file said 80 and 443 in a couple of places. i checked what ports are listening and 80 was not listed but 443 was
[04:06] <zerowaitstate> ericb__: are you accessing your site from port 80 or 443 in your tests?
[04:06] <zerowaitstate> i.e., are you using HTTP or HTTPS?
[04:06] <cfhowlett> Bashing-om, found it, last entry = a 4 gb! log
[04:07] <cfhowlett> http://paste.ubuntu.com/10716394/
[04:07] <zerowaitstate> that's the same pastebin
[04:07] <ericb__> zerowaitstate: im not sure, ive configured both to forward. do you mean using the private ip? how can I determine what port it is successfully accessing it through?
[04:08] <zerowaitstate> eric did you use http:// or https:// in your browser? is there a lock icon...?
[04:08] <zerowaitstate> what is the output of a2ensite?
[04:11] <ericb__> zerowaitstate: originally tried http:// and just tried https and got "secure connection failed: improperly formated der-encoded message" also i don't know what a2ensite is
[04:11] <zerowaitstate> a2ensite / a2dissite are commands in ubuntu for enabling / disabling particular sites within your apache config
[04:12] <zerowaitstate> on debian systems (like ubuntu), the sites which are enabled in apache are symlinked in /etc/apache2/sites-enabled
[04:12] <Bashing-om> cfhowlett: :) now to find out what is causing the system to scream and holler so .. I be look'n .
[04:13] <ericb__> zerowaitstate: a2ensite output is "Your choices are: default default-ssl which do you want to enable"
[04:13] <zerowaitstate> ericb__: a2ensite default
[04:13] <zerowaitstate> ericb__: you may have to do that as sudo
[04:14] <ericb__> zerowaitstate: default already enabled
[04:14] <zerowaitstate> when connecting via your local network, you're using http:// right? and it's working?
[04:15] <ericb__> yeah
[04:15] <tpayne> Hello. I have EC2 ubuntu machines (that write to a single db) all giving me different times when I type date (off by 27 seconds or so) and it's screwing up my ordering of writes because I get system time from Java code and persist it with mongodb. Any who, how can I make sure things are sync'd?
[04:15] <zerowaitstate> ericb__: then the problem is in your router. your machine IS listening or port 80, or http:// would not work
[04:16] <zerowaitstate> ericb__: unless you are typing some special port number in the url, as in http://blah.com:1567/
[04:17] <ericb__> zerowaitstate: ok gotcha, ill have to mess around with the router some more. well thank you for helping me :D
[04:17] <zerowaitstate> tpayne: sudo apt-get install ntp
[04:17] <LTS14N00b> HI All, I have for some reason lost the ability to [Alt]-[Tab] to switch tasks and also only have one desktop. It worked before I shutdown yesterday and now I don't have it (and I don't remember turning them off). I am running 14.04 and the Cairo dock (if that makes any difference)
[04:17] <tpayne> zerowaitstate: and that's it?
[04:17] <zerowaitstate> tpayne: if you're wanting times synced on the various boxes, they need to be running ntp
[04:18] <tpayne> why sin't this done out of the box?
[04:18] <zerowaitstate> tpayne: i don't know
[04:18] <tpayne> hehe, ok thanks
[04:18] <zerowaitstate> tpayne: the time differences will take a bit to settle; ntp slews the clock based on historical sampling, and virtualization monkeys with that a bit
[04:19] <tpayne> yeah i just installed it, and they're still off by about 1 minute
[04:19] <tpayne> so i guess i'll check back in the morning? I didn't reboot or anything I just literally did sudo apt-get install ntp
[04:19] <tpayne> on all 3 machines...
[04:20] <ericb__> take it easy zerowaitstate thanks again!
[04:21] <zerowaitstate> tpayne: stop the ntp service, then run "sudo ntpd -gq", then restart ntp service
[04:21] <zerowaitstate> tpayne: that should force a quick update
[04:22] <tpayne> thanks
[04:22] <tpayne> trying that now
[04:22] <zerowaitstate> tpayne: then, once ntp service is running, it will correct for future clock skew
[04:22] <Fudster> What is the package for .wav decoder on ubuntu server?
[04:24] <zerowaitstate> tpayne: you can also run ntpq and use the "peers" command to find out the status of the synchronization
[04:25] <tpayne> zerowaitstate: it's all sync'd up now!!
[04:25] <tpayne> beautiful, thanks so much
[04:26] <zerowaitstate> tpayne: no problem
[04:27] <Fudster> What is the package for .wav decoder on ubuntu server?
[04:27] <cfhowlett> Bashing-om, thanks. I deleted the log. the guvcview camera was triggering something on each boot for quite some now.
[04:31] <Bashing-om> cfhowlett: Great. Panic not. Just proceed in a calm and orderly fashion. Find out the why of the trigger , huh ?
[04:31] <cfhowlett> Bashing-om, I THINK I might have experimented with screen recording on guvc ...
[04:32] <Bashing-om> cfhowlett: lol, I recall the time I thought. I had to RE-install .
[04:33] <cfhowlett> Bashing-om, *shudders* ...
[04:33] <Bashing-om> cfhowlett: Not all bad. I did learn . Good backups !
[04:34] <cfhowlett> Bashing-om, for certain!
[04:35] <cfhowlett> Bashing-om, thank you so much! I've found it near impossible to find local like minded linux users much less support here in Beijing.
[04:39] <muka> when I 'avconv -f pulse -i ....' I get Unknown input format: 'pulse'. Someone knows how to fix that?
[04:40] <Bashing-om> cfhowlett: Well... try the backwoods of Arkansas . Thank goodness for IRC and the forums ... Taught me all I have been able to learn to this time . ( and the want to know)
[04:40] <cfhowlett> muka, pulse is not a codec.
[04:40] <cfhowlett> Bashing-om, arkansas? nice.
[04:41] <Enkidu_ak> No LUGs in the Arkansas hills?
[04:42] <Bashing-om> Enkidu_ak: None that I am aware of ( or have hunted up) think about starting one up .
[04:43] <Enkidu_ak> You are welcome to join AkLUG. Most people can't seem to tell the difference between AK and AR anyway. :D
[04:43] <puff> I have a set of logitech wireless headphones, with the logitech USB dongle. They mostly work fine, but every now and then I get no sound out of them, even if I have sound settings up and the headphones are selected and it's showing sound going out on them.
[04:43] <puff> Sometimes it comes back after a reboot.
[04:43] <puff> Anybody have any idea?
[04:44] <cfhowlett> muka, pulse IS a format though. I don't use avconv enough to give detailed advice. #opensourcemusicians or avconv irc would know more
[04:44] <Bashing-om> Enkidu_ak: Well. It is a thought, but that commute would be daunting .
[04:44] <muka> cfhowlett, thank you
[04:45] <Enkidu_ak> Bashing-om: We used to meet, years ago. Most of the members went off to other places, though. Now it's just a mailing list, but a lively one.
[04:45] <Enkidu_ak> I think we have more members out of state than we do in state.
[04:47] <Bashing-om> Enkidu_ak: Welcome to the WWW :) .. It has indeed changed our lives .
[05:22] <HashNuke> hi all
[05:23] <doitwithus> hello all
[05:24] <doitwithus> hey guys, we are trying to create DIY network for people to help each other locally for free, we have website up. But need feedback, does anyone want to help?
[05:29] <doitwithus> lol is anyone online, or just everyone watching netflix and forget irc on
[05:30] <NegativeFlare> doitwithus: This is a support channel, not a random chat channel.
[05:32] <Enkidu_ak> doitwithus: Though we have those as well. There is random chat in #ubuntu-offtopic, but it's pretty quiet at the moment.
[05:33] <Appl3Kork> anyone good with nfs?
[05:33] <Enkidu_ak> o/ Appl3Kork
[05:33] <Appl3Kork> oh hey
[05:34] <Enkidu_ak> Appl3Kork: Still having issues with xbmc?
[05:34] <Appl3Kork> so ya, i get that the setup for nfs is suppose to be like /mnt 192.168.1.176(rw,sync,no_subtree_check)
[05:34] <Appl3Kork> but for the IP, can i make it an IP that any ip on my network can access
[05:34] <Appl3Kork> so not just the ip of the xbmc?
[05:35] <Appl3Kork> cause the 192.168.1.176 is the ip of the raspberry pi
[05:36] <Enkidu_ak> Appl3Kork: You can make it available to your entire network. Replace the ip with *
[05:36] <Appl3Kork> ok i'll try that Enkidu_ak
[05:36] <iBrokeEverything> hi hello
[05:36] <Appl3Kork> u are a huge help when my other buddy isn't around :(
[05:37] <Enkidu_ak> Appl3Kork: Sometimes I even get it right :D
[05:37] <Enkidu_ak> iBrokeEverything: Hi
[05:38] <Appl3Kork> no joke though Enkidu_ak u just fixed it :D
[05:38] <iBrokeEverything> its posible to run borderlands1 goty on ubuntu with that winetricks etc,,, ? i have on win7 version steam ,,all my dlcs
[05:39] <Enkidu_ak> iBrokeEverything: You should check out the winehq website. They have a database of apps with known states. If Borderlands can be run, it's probably in there.
[05:39] <cfhowlett> !steam | iBrokeEverything, see the steam site
[05:39] <Enkidu_ak> Appl3Kork: Happy to help
[05:40] <iBrokeEverything> yea yea guys steam actualy runs on my ubu but no borderlands game run linuxes
[05:40] <iBrokeEverything> so there is that winetricks can i do it with dat?
[05:40] <Enkidu_ak> iBrokeEverything: You can always install win32 steam
[05:41] <Enkidu_ak> iBrokeEverything: Refer to that appdb that I was telling you about. If it can be done the instructions are probably there.
[05:41] <iBrokeEverything> enkidu_ak like with wine?
[05:41] <Enkidu_ak> iBrokeEverything: Yes
[05:42] <iBrokeEverything> enkidu_ak and u are a gamer ? :D whats your experiences with ubu?
[05:42] <iBrokeEverything> am new in this
[05:43] <Enkidu_ak> iBrokeEverything: I'm not a gamer :(
[05:43] <iBrokeEverything> enkidu_ak hows that?
[05:44] <Enkidu_ak> iBrokeEverything: I don't generally play computer games. I don't have any particular problem with them, just that my interests lie elsewhere.
[05:45] <iBrokeEverything> an this is an error when i start steam ,, but stem works OpenGL GLX context is not using direct rendering, which may cause performance problems.
[05:45] <iBrokeEverything> For more information visit https://support.steampowered.com/kb_article.php?ref=9938-EYZB-7457
[05:45] <Enkidu_ak> iBrokeEverything: And what did the article say?
[05:47] <Enkidu_ak> iBrokeEverything: According to the article, Steam isn't able to use OpenGL. What video card are you using?
[05:47] <iBrokeEverything> reinstaling driver will help bla bla bla
[05:48] <iBrokeEverything> ubu says this Gallium 0.4 on AMD ARUBA
[05:49] <iBrokeEverything> but its amd radeon hd 7420
[05:49] <doitwithus> does anyone know how to make screen keep on raspberry pi? I try to play with settings it always goes off
[05:49] <iBrokeEverything> its laptop
[05:50] <Enkidu_ak> iBrokeEverything: It seems that you should follow the articles advice and re-install those drivers.
[05:50] <Enkidu_ak> iBrokeEverything: I'm guessing that direct rendering is broken everywhere, not just for steam
[05:51] <iBrokeEverything> enkidu_ak but am pretty lame in linux ,,my knowledge end by change wallpaper :D
[05:52] <Enkidu_ak> iBrokeEverything: We all started somewhere.
[05:54] <iBrokeEverything> enkidu_ak its not like windows click on driver uninstall and re install :D
[05:55] <iBrokeEverything> should be linux for not talented peoples
[05:58] <Enkidu_ak> iBrokeEverything: I don't use any ATI cards, so I am not as familiar with the driver setup as others might be. I did find an article detailing performance issues with that card and Utopic. https://mwop.net/blog/2014-11-03-utopic-and-amd.html
[05:58] <l9> any news on wayland and gnome ?
[06:00] <alberto> HOLA
[06:00] <iBrokeEverything> enkidu_ak i go look on it
[06:01] <Guest5028> HOLA!
[06:05] <iBrokeEverything> enkisu_ak so done go reboot
[06:08] <ANJ7> where will the Arduino files get installed if I install it using apt-get?
[06:09] <lotuspsychje> ANJ7: try the whereis command from terminal
[06:09] <iBrokeEverything> Enkidu_ak i dont see any changes
[06:09] <ANJ7> k
[06:30] <sys-lnx> .
[06:30] <sys-lnx> anyone?
[06:31] <sys-lnx> bye eveyone
[06:38] <sdfa> PPTP crashed with SIGSEGV but i still can connect using pptp
[06:38] <sdfa> what the crashed affected
[06:41] <sdfa> helloooo ?
[06:41] <sdfa> any of you experience PPTP crashed with SIGSEGV error ?
[06:41] <l9> helloooo
[06:44] <pie990beer> I think that am I drunk can't walk straight
[07:03] <scottrb3> I'm having some strange ubuntu behavior and I'm stumped. It's almost like a keyboard button is stuck. My mouse wheel is switching applications, and click+hold in chrome is scrolling down the page instead of highlighting text. any ideas?
[07:16] <tnkhanh> hi
[07:22] * bip Buongiorno
[07:35] <Azin> When will python3 be updated on apt-get? I'm a little surprised that the latest version available is still 3.4.0 given how it contains the pyvenv bug.
[07:40] <vlt> Azin: Usually the version won’t change in a certain Ubuntu release.
[07:42] <vlt> Azin: Security fixes will be applied to the version shipped with the release. You can check the changelog for a package with `aptitude changelog <pgk>`, for example.
[07:44] <mateusz_> hello, can somebody help me with configuration gps on bluetooth?
[08:01] <Azin> vlt: Thank you
[08:10] * tnkhanh says hi
[08:21] <mark_chang_1492> is ubuntu 15.04 good enough to swith from 14.04?
[08:21] <nils_> mark_chang_1492: lots of infrastructure work, from an end-user perspective not very exciting.
[08:22] <nils_> I'm wondering when a 3.16 kernel with at least the ckt5 patch set will be released, we're running into a few xen issues with 3.16-ckt4
[08:23] <mark_chang_1492> I see, maybe I will wait for a while for some exciting feature. thanks
[08:25] <nils_> mark_chang_1492: you can always try the live usb thingy though
[08:27] <mark_chang_1492> nils:good idea. Thanks for all you guys to develop such a good platform.
[08:44] <fattaneh> hi all, how to set a static same ip address for my vm in virtualbox?
[08:48] <geirha> that depends on how you configured the virtual network interface in virtualbox
[08:48] <geirha> And it's probably better to ask a virtualbox channel
[08:48] <fattaneh> geirha: thanks :) , i will ask there
[08:49] <geirha> which is #vbox
[08:52] <revisor> Hi, why does my Ubuntu VM installation add ".dev" to a ping request to non-existing domain? The same goes on with eg. gethostbyname('foo') in PHP. Where should I start looking? The VM is configured with a hostname "example.dev". Is it connected to this?
[08:54] <PartNAS> weres the mint channel?
[08:55] <revisor> Example: Calling "ping foo" starts pinging "foo.dev". Why?
[09:00] <revisor> Found the solution. I should call "ping foo." with a dot at the end, to signalize that no further lookup or completion should be performed
[09:02] <geirha> PartNAS: /msg alis list mint
[09:06] <neo1691_> Hi guys, I want to understand exactly what happens when I use the network manager from the ubuntu panel to change the network profile? I have created some profiles for different network with different IPs. Can I somehow trigger them from the command line or from python?
[09:07] <neo1691_> Basically I want to write a script to enable and disable proxy variables in /etc/environment and /etc/apt/apt.conf and change IP addresses/DHCP based on the network I am on.
[09:10] <neo1691_> If I change the profile from the network manager applet on the status bar, I see no change in /etc/network/interfaces. I want to know which files exactly do they write? So that I can manually write them using python
[09:11] <h0ddH3d> neo1691_: check nmcli
[09:12] <carl__> that's because network manager is in unmanaged mode by default, meaning that it handles interfaces with its own files instead of /etc/network/interfaces
[09:13] <neo1691_> h0ddH3d: Thanks!! carl__ just a question. Will nmcli or any other tool like wicd use the profiles from networkmanger or will I need to create new profiles for nmcli/wicd ?
[09:13] <bekks> neo1691_: nmcli is the command line utilty of NetworkManager.
[09:13] <bekks> neo1691_: So it uses the NetworkManager profiles.
[09:14] <carl__> yep, nmcli should use the same files as network manager
[09:14] <carl__> wicd probably won't, though
[09:15] <neo1691_> bekks: carl__ Thanks a lot.
[09:15] <carl__> i think you can set network manager mode by editing /etc/NetworkManager/NetworkManager.conf, if you want it to use /etc/network/interfaces, but i can't be sure
[09:15] <Pantsu> silly ubuntu that doesn't have nmtui yet
[09:15] <Pantsu> :/
[09:16] <geirha> oh curses
[09:16] <bekks> Pantsu: What do you need nmtui for, when there is nmcli?
[09:16] <Pantsu> bekks: nmtui is superiour in every way
[09:17] <Pantsu> it is much more user friendly and powerfull
[09:17] <bekks> Pantsu: curses in inferior by every means.
[09:17] <bekks> *is
[09:17] <Pantsu> nmcli could really need some work
[09:18] <marvin> hi
[09:19] <bekks> Pantsu: So start it, it's opensource and participation is highly welcome.
[09:19] <neo1691_> nmcli doesn't seem to be a part of ubuntu 12.04 official repositories?
[09:20] <Pantsu> neo1691_: it is part of networkmanager itself
[09:20] <h0ddH3d> Pantsu: If you decide to do some work over it i'am her.
[09:21] <h0ddH3d> here*
[09:21] <Pantsu> you don't want my patches
[09:21] <Pantsu> unless you want to torture someone
[09:21] <bekks> neo1691_: the package "network-manager" contains it.
[09:22] <neo1691_> Pantsu: Ah my bad. It's already there. I ran apt-cache show nmcli and apt-cache search nmcli which returned nothing. This tool should solve my issue
[09:22] <neo1691_> thanks bekks :)
[09:23] <Pantsu> my code tend to look like https://github.com/MrElendig/kittypack and https://gist.github.com/anonymous/5d5f9f383c0c03c883fa :p
[09:23] <Pantsu> (you might want to keep some alcohol at hand to recover from the horror if you read the code)
[09:24] <bekks> That looks like Python and Haskell.
[09:24] * bekks runs
[10:01] <ayct2> Hi all
[10:14] <neil_> I am trying to write a C using libfcgi but I can't find any example on how to process form data without hand coding the GET/POST arg. handling.
[10:17] <inexpertis> hello everyone, can someone tell me what holding Alt then pressing numbers in bash terminal do? ... what uses does this have?
[10:25] <Pantsu> neil_: use a framework
[10:25] <Pantsu> neil_: fun fact: php is a C http templating/routing framework
[10:26] <Pantsu> neil_: anyway, proxygen, haywire, raphters
[10:26] <Pantsu> and about a million others
[10:28] <wanyan> whos
[10:30] <monkeynutts> hey guys, im having an gpg issue. help pls ! when i run
[10:30] <monkeynutts> sudo apt-key adv --keyserver keyserver.ubuntu.com --recv-keys
[10:31] <monkeynutts> i always get this
[10:31] <monkeynutts> gpg: Invalid option "--primary-keyring"
[10:31] <wanyan> www.ircfans.org
[10:31] <monkeynutts> ive googled but have not been able to find an answer. i cannot add public keys to the repositories
[10:31] <svetlana> i wanted to ask what init systems are supported other than systemd and the /etc/rc?.d/ stuff
[10:32] <svetlana> since i don't grok the latter, and the former is exorbitantly broken, and i would prefer something i find intuitive at least
[10:32] <monkeynutts> can anyone point me in right directoion
[10:32] <carl__> hello ! does anyone know if switching a vpn on in the network settings is supposed to do something ? because that doesn't change anything to my routes..
[10:32] <svetlana> monkeynutts: replace `cannot add' with a description of what happens when you try to add, and try again
[10:33] <monkeynutts> i posted the error already
[10:33] <monkeynutts> gpg: Invalid option "--primary-keyring"
[10:33] <k1l> svetlana: you mean upstart?
[10:34] <monkeynutts> running sudo apt-key adv --keyserver keyserver.ubuntu.com --recv-keys 3B4FE6ACC0B21F32 generates gpg: Invalid option "--primary-keyring"
[10:34] <monkeynutts> im on 14.04 lts
[10:35] <ayct2> Hm
[10:36] <ayct2> cBeTA privet. Who uses elinks?
[10:36] <enkxa> hi!
[10:36] <monkeynutts> hi
[10:37] <enkxa> my problem: how on earth would i get encrypted swap permanently working?
[10:37] <ayct2> Hi
[10:38] <enkxa> it won't work if i do partiotioning by myself during installation process
[10:38] <enkxa> but in the other hand it will work if i choose full device encryption
[10:40] <ayct2> Try do it after install ▶
[10:40] <ayct2> And why u wanna encrypt swap?
[10:41] <enkxa> i've been trying
[10:41] <enkxa> it doesn't matter why i want it
[10:41] <enkxa> installation program tries to do it anyway
[10:41] <monkeynutts> why would running this command sudo apt-key adv --keyserver keyserver.ubuntu.com --recv-keys 3B4FE6ACC0B21F32
[10:41] <monkeynutts> generate this Executing: gpg --ignore-time-conflict --no-options --no-default-keyring --homedir /tmp/tmp.EDCGXjphen --no-auto-check-trustdb --trust-model always --keyring /etc/apt/trusted.gpg --primary-keyring /etc/apt/trusted.gpg --keyserver keyserver.ubuntu.com --recv-keys 3B4FE6ACC0B21F32
[10:41] <monkeynutts> gpg: Invalid option "--primary-keyring"
[10:44] <enkxa> actually it worked once after i change UUID to real swap device file name in the crypttab
[10:44] <neil_> Pantsu, I am trying to make a small webapp ... I was hoping to use C and libfcgi but I have found no way of handling post/get data... I was after a full framework.
[10:44] <enkxa> but the next boot encrypted swap sucked again
[10:45] <Pantsu> neil_: I would consider python/haskell/similar
[10:45] <Pantsu> neil_: but as I said, there are a lot of C(++) web frameworks
[10:47] <neil_> Pantsu, I have been looking for 2 days trying to find a simple one that has examples on how to handle form data.
[10:50] * Pantsu would seriously consider using some other language than C
[10:52] <tj83> hello everyone. It has been years since I ran ubuntu. Are there any suggested third party repos to grab to make life happy in ubuntu?
[10:52] <tj83> for example I used RPMfusion with fedora.
[10:53] <nanodrone> hey y'all i have a question
[10:53] * mezoreda slaps giving
[10:53] <Pantsu> tj83: ppa have some useful things
[10:53] <tj83> Pantsu, alright I will check them out. thank you.
[10:54] <Pantsu> (but it also have a lot of crap(
[10:55] <nanodrone> i tried ubuntu on my n-trig windows hybrid
[10:55] <nanodrone> it doesn't have any palm rejection
[10:55] <nanodrone> are there any better drivers available for n-trig on ubuntu?
[10:56] <nanodrone> and when is ubuntu gonna add support for connected standby
[10:57] <k1l_> nanodrone: see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Multitouch/NtrigFirmwareStatus for a start
[11:02] <nanodrone> k1l_, i dont get it
[11:02] <nanodrone> sorry
[11:03] <nanodrone> it's all about windows
[11:03] <nanodrone> who writes these drivers for linux
[11:04] <evagabond> evagabond
[11:05] <MonkeyDust> nanodrone contact the company and ask them ro do so, would be the only way, i guess
[11:09] <jrk--> Hello. I have old laptop with WinXP. It has no USB-boot and defunct CD drive but it has boot from LAN. I wan to install Ubuntu on it. What can I do?
[11:10] <enkxa> if it's really old choose lubuntu
[11:10] <k1l_> jrk--: use pxe install procedure. and go for Lubuntu
[11:10] <hateball> jrk--: This is one option, provided you have another ubuntu machine on the LAN https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PXEInstallServer
[11:11] <duckey> Is Microsoft buying Linux foundation?
[11:11] <k1l_> duckey: no. look at todays date :)
[11:12] <enkxa> never tried but should work that install server with booting from network
[11:12] <tj83> for a Nvidia geforce card is the proprietary driver recommended ? I am interested in some light gaming.
[11:12] <duckey> Really
[11:13] <MonkeyDust> duckey yes, and Apple too
[11:13] <duckey> MonkeyDust, really?
[11:13] <jrk--> hateball: I have no router so I have to connect two laptops directly. Do I have to setup DHCP server on my Ubuntu laptop?
[11:14] <enkxa> jrk-: seems that you have to
[11:15] <jrk--> enkxa: ok, thanks
[11:15] <enkxa> jrk-: no big deal
[11:16] <enkxa> jrk-: wireless router-modems are often dhcp servers by default if you have one
[11:17] <Pantsu> MonkeyDust: what does apple have to do with it?
[11:18] <Pantsu> tj83: use the package manager to install the driver, don't grab it right of nvidia.com
[11:19] <hateball> jrk--: another option would be to pull out the drive from the laptop and use a sata/ide -> usb-adapter and using another machine to do the install, then put the drive back in
[11:20] <jrk--> is there any other option to install Ubuntu on PC without USB-boot and CD-but? like chain-load GRUB from NTLDR and than load kernel and initrd from harddrive and then mout USB drive as root filesystem?
[11:24] <inexpertis> what does ALT+<Number> in bash terminal do? I see something like this (arg: 23)
[11:25] <Pantsu> inexpertis: man readline
[11:25] <Pantsu> inexpertis: also first hit on google: http://stackoverflow.com/questions/562115/press-alt-numeric-in-bash-and-you-get-arg-numeric-what-is-that
[11:27] <inexpertis> Pantsu, Thanks I tried to google it but could not formulate any question "(arg: number)" was not good because google ignores punctuation marks and linux Alt and numbers got me nothing :)
[11:28] <Desu> inexpertis: "bash alt-number"
[11:28] <Desu> was what I used
[11:30] <inexpertis> Desu, didn't think alt-number would work, in google does minus not state to match pages not containing that word ?
[11:31] <inexpertis> Desu, anyway thanks
[11:31] <jrk--> inexpertis: if you put space before minus it will work as you said
[11:32] <citroniks> i want to do "Web server load balancing Raspberry Pi " how can i do please tell me
[11:32] <citroniks> in advance thanks
[11:36] <Desu> citroniks: you want to set up a rpi cluster?
[11:36] <Desu> (your question doesn't actually mean anything)
[11:37] <MonkeyDust> citroniks sure you're in the right channel?
[11:37] <Enkidu_ak> Mmm... rpi lamp cluster... I think I have a weekend project.
[11:38] <citroniks> Desu, thanks but i dont know to setup please tell me any links
[11:39] <Desu> citroniks: that doesn't answer my quiestion, you havn't explained what you are actually trying to do
[11:39] <Desu> Enkidu_ak: better off not using apache on them
[11:40] <H__> Question: has X11 font rendering been changed in 14.04 very recently ? (I'm getting very ugly antialiasing since last apt-get dist-upgrade)
[11:41] <citroniks> Desu, i want to build "web server load balance" to balance the load of the server
[11:42] <duckey> So over the years, I have tried a lot of Linux distros. Have not found one that I really like. I want the most powerful most sourced most beautiful Linux distro. And on my search, I have found nothing. Can someone please guide me on my never quenched desire to find the perfect distro?
[11:42] <Desu> rpis are not the tool you want to use as a load balancer
[11:42] <jrk--> hateball, enkxa, I have no "/media/cdrom/install/netboot/" directory. I have only "mt86plus", "README.sbm" and "sbm.bin" files inside "/media/cdrom/install/" directory. I use Xubuntu 14.10.
[11:42] <Desu> asuming your servers are not horribly slow, the rpi will probably be limiting your server >_>
[11:43] <k1l_> duckey: since you ask in #ubuntu: use ubuntu
[11:43] <bazhang> duckey, try ##linux , this is ubuntu support only
[11:43] <duckey> Oh, crap
[11:43] <duckey> They de voiced me in ##linux
[11:43] <duckey> :(
[11:44] <bazhang> #ubuntu-offtopic then duckey
[11:44] <k1l_> duckey: no need to spoil this channel then. thanks
[11:44] <duckey> Thatl doo :)
[11:46] <Enkidu_ak> duckey: To be fair, you were raving.
[11:47] <duckey> Yes I was
[11:47] <citroniks> Desu, i read this one http://www.kmggroup.ch/?p=275
[11:48] <duckey> What is the kali linux channel?
[11:48] <Desu> citroniks: doesn't say anything about the performance....
[11:48] <bazhang> !kali | duckey
[11:48] <Desu> duckey: their homepage says what it is
[11:48] <Desu> duckey: also /q alis help
[11:48] <duckey> Oh
[11:48] <Desu> /q alis list *kali*
[11:54] <guo> nobody
[11:54] <MonkeyDust> duckey there are at least 5 people in #kali
[11:54] <duckey> ikr
[11:54] <guo> hi
[11:54] <duckey> hi
[12:00] <vovkav> hi! Logcheck + dos_evasive question... no matter what i put in /etc/logcheck/ignore.d.server/xxx logcheck keeps sending me emails (Security Alerts section). other lines in /etc/logcheck/ignore.d.server/xxx work as expected. What did I miss?
[12:08] <Guest9892> LxLe led me here
[12:08] <Cryp71c> Working with a debian VM, keep getting a GPG key error for ppa.launchpad.net and I'm not sure if its something on my end that I need to fix or if the base issue is on the apt repository's side. I can run apt-key adv to manually add in the missing key....but I'm not sure why its not getting that key automatically
[12:08] <Cryp71c> sorry, ubuntu VM*
[12:10] <kb52> Just installed LXLE which seems like a cool Ubuntu linux. Here is its only problem. During install etc, my speakers make a thunking noise mostly left channel, when totally silent only.
[12:11] <kb52> It is the software and not the hardware.
[12:11] <bazhang> !lxle
[12:11] <bazhang> what is lxle kb52
[12:12] <k1l_> lxle is a ubuntu spinoff with lxde. better ask them for support or use original Lubuntu
[12:12] <bazhang> use alis to find their support chan kb52
[12:13] <bazhang> /msg alis list lxle kb52
[12:13] <kb52> Its Linux Ubuntu based. Uses the LXDE desktop. It appears to be as stable as all the rest, but it is not having a happy day with my sound card.
[12:13] <bazhang> it is not supported here kb52
[12:14] <PartNAS> kb52: tell them you are using lubuntu
[12:14] <Ben64> no
[12:14] <bazhang> PartNAS, thats not helpful
[12:14] <Ben64> it isn't lubuntu, lying will not get you far
[12:15] <kb52> I may just go back to knoppix even though you cannot upgrade it. But it looks so much nicer etc. This is the first linux that has some kind of sound problem. No its a basic sound driver issue.
[12:15] <bazhang> kb52, please stop posting here for help, find the lxle channel for that
[12:15] <kb52> Fine.
[12:18] <inexpertis> since a week ago, in CLI (CTRL+ALT+1 mode) is not using the whole screen area, its just about 1/4 in size in the top-left, what can I do to make it full screen?
[12:21] <inexpertis> By the way I'm ussing lubuntu v14 (Ubuntu 14.04.2 LTS)
[12:22] <enkxa> one question about the ubuntu phone: is ubuntu the only operation systemin in the phone or is it just running on the top of android?
[12:22] <BluesKaj> Hiyas all
[12:22] <bazhang> !touch | enkxa
[12:23] <enkxa> ok, i'll have my question that other channel
[12:31] <Laurenceb> hi
[12:31] <Laurenceb> i have a problem, i have lost my monitors
[12:31] <Laurenceb> my pc is running fine, i can ssh in
[12:32] <Laurenceb> but there is nothing on my monitors, no signal
[12:32] <Laurenceb> the problem occured when i tried to change user
[12:32] <Laurenceb> screens when blank, and nothing i can do gets them back
[12:32] <Laurenceb> can anyone advise?
[12:32] <Laurenceb> i am currently connected via ssh
[12:33] <hualet> Laurenceb: have you tried to reboot your machine?
[12:34] <Laurenceb> haulet: id rather not, there is unsaved work
[12:34] <Laurenceb> ok, i just had another look
[12:34] <Laurenceb> it seems there is a signal, as the monitors wont auto sleep
[12:34] <Laurenceb> but they are just showing black atm
[12:35] <Laurenceb> so something is sending video
[12:35] <memoryleak> Laurenceb: I had this issue aswell. Couldn't get it solved unfortunatly
[12:35] <Laurenceb> :-/
[12:35] <Laurenceb> restart x11 or something?
[12:35] <memoryleak> It seemed to me that something with the graphcis-driver is causing it
[12:35] <Laurenceb> yeah
[12:35] <k1l_> Laurenceb: see the logs like dmesg and Xorg.log what is going on
[12:35] <Laurenceb> its got to be possible to restart it
[12:35] <Laurenceb> ah good idea
[12:35] <k1l_> and please name the video card and what driver did you use and how did you install it
[12:36] <memoryleak> Couldn't you install/run VNC to save the work? :)
[12:37] <Laurenceb> memoryleak: yeah maybe
[12:37] <Laurenceb> im gunna try to get some support irl first :P
[12:38] <Laurenceb> nothing in dmesg
[12:38] <sundev70> :)
[12:38] <Laurenceb> where is Xorg.log?
[12:38] <k1l_> Laurenceb: /var/log/
[12:39] <Laurenceb> ok
[12:39] <Laurenceb> i see lots of xorg logs
[12:39] <Laurenceb> which one?
[12:39] <Desu> Laurenceb: depends on the display your session is on
[12:39] <Laurenceb> ok ill check the dates
[12:40] <Desu> the number is the display
[12:40] <Desu> (they are not rotated logs)
[12:40] <Desu> in most cases it will be Xorg.0.log
[12:41] <Laurenceb> found it
[12:41] <Laurenceb> http://pastie.org/10067168
[12:41] <Laurenceb> restart xorg?
[12:42] <Desu> man -P "less -p '-logfile'" explains the naming
[12:42] <Desu> er... missing Xorg there
[12:42] <k1l_> Laurenceb: well, was it suddenly "while you were working" or was it while booting? and what video card is it?
[12:42] <Laurenceb> k1l_: it was while i was changing to another user
[12:42] <Desu> Laurenceb: that doesn't look like a xorg log
[12:43] <Laurenceb> ihmm
[12:43] <Laurenceb> ill grab the whole file
[12:43] <Laurenceb> http://pastie.org/10067171
[12:44] <Cryp71c> apt-cache lists two sources (one from a ppa and the other is from ubuntu) for a dependency, how can I re-arrange the order of these two sources so one is used instead of the other?
[12:47] <Xavinyo> hi, could someone please direct me to the appropriate place with SSD/TRIM problem
[12:48] <Laurenceb> fixed it with ctrl-alt-backspace
[12:50] <k1l_> Xavinyo: if its ubuntu ask here
[12:51] <yorwos> hi all
[12:51] <Xavinyo> k1l_, I don't know if it is vendor or kernel related, anyway I ask it
[12:52] <Xavinyo> I have ssd in lvm that is trim capable, hdparm shows:
[12:52] <Xavinyo> * Data Set Management TRIM supported (limit 6 blocks)
[12:52] <Xavinyo> * Deterministic read ZEROs after TRIM
[12:52] <Xavinyo> lvm.conf has discards_pass enabled
[12:52] <yorwos> i'm running ubuntu studio 14.04 and i was thinking to try "kali linux" distro inside a virtual machine , do you have any specific free vm software to advice ?
[12:53] <Xavinyo> issue_discards = 1
[12:53] <Xavinyo> however lsblk -D returns that my max discrads etc is 0
[12:53] <yorwos> *recommend
[12:53] <Xavinyo> sda 0 0B 0B 0
[12:53] <Xavinyo> ├─sda1 0 0B 0B 0
[12:53] <Xavinyo> └─sda2 0 0B 0B 0
[12:53] <Xavinyo> ├─vg_ssd-lv_root (dm-2) 0 0B 0B 0
[12:53] <Xavinyo> └─vg_ssd-lv_swap (dm-3) 0 0B 0B 0
[12:53] <Xavinyo> sdb 0 0B 0B 0
[12:53] <k1l_> !paste | Xavinyo please use that
[12:54] <einyx> yorwos, virtualbox will work just fine
[12:54] <yorwos> thanx einyx
[12:54] <k1l_> yorwos: virtualbox is the easiest for endusers to begin with
[12:54] <Xavinyo> so my question is what am ai doing wrong, did I miss anything
[12:57] <systemd0wn> Question, running 14.04 Desktop and IPv6 is murderously slow when surfing the internet. Disabling it in sysctl seems to only be temporary because it just turns back on. Any suggestions on troubleshooting this so I can keep IPv6? (assuming anyone is awake to answer)
[12:58] <einyx> systemd0wn, ipv6 being slowly is probably because of your isp, not ubuntu itself
[12:59] <k1l_> Xavinyo: ubuntu uses batched discard since 14.04 but i dont know how lvm comes into that setting
[13:00] <lyze> ohai
[13:01] <Xavinyo> k1l_ lvm needs to pass discard signals to the underlying physical drives.. since I have to ssds in a logical volume i need to set things in lvm.conf
[13:01] <f0086> hi
[13:02] <Xavinyo> k1l_, I made a pastebin for informative outputs: http://codepad.org/ShGHNhcA
[13:02] <f0086> Is there a other mapping between unix gid/uid and the actual name than /etc/passwd?
[13:03] <f0086> On my system there is a user/group I can't find in /etc/passwd
[13:03] <bekks> f0086: no.
[13:03] <k1l_> Xavinyo: ok, but i dont know about lvm trim setup. sorry
[13:03] <bekks> f0086: Which user/group do you see there?
[13:03] <k1l_> Xavinyo: if no one in here knows maybe try to ask on askubuntu.com or the ubuntuforums
[13:04] <bekks> Xavinyo: are you running fstrim as root?
[13:04] <f0086> bekks: I use froxlor which will create this user/groups ... but there are not in /etc/passwd
[13:04] <gautam__> Why gedit/firefox is opening on server side, not on client side. When I have ssh into server from client side with -X option
[13:04] <f0086> bekks: I can't find the place where these names are defined
[13:05] <bekks> f0086: Whats "froxlor2?
[13:05] <bekks> f0086: froxlor even.
[13:05] <Xavinyo> bekks, yes
[13:05] <f0086> bekks: a web tool to manage hosting stuff
[13:05] <f0086> bekks: It does not matter
[13:05] <bekks> f0086: So thats a good question for their support then.
[13:05] <bekks> f0086: It does matter, of course.
[13:06] <f0086> bekks: It is a basic linux/unix question: Where can I find the mechanism which will translate the gid/uid into names? I thought /etc/passwd is the only place but there must be a other place
[13:07] <bekks> f0086: Ask the froxlor support where they are doing things like that.
[13:07] <bekks> f0086: It is a basix product support question.
[13:08] <cq-aux> hi
[13:08] <cq-aux> does anyone want to skype-chat?
[13:09] <f0086> Ok, I will ask a completely other question: If I want wot mount an external NFS share, How can I use the gid/uid names from an external source (the nfs server) and not do a copy/paste of the /etc/passwd file?
[13:09] <bekks> f0086: Withou specifying any uid/gid, the numerical values from the source (the nfs server) are in effect.
[13:10] <k1l_> cq-aux: this is technical support only. better ask in #ubuntu-offtopic for chitchat
[13:10] <cq-aux> k
[13:11] <f0086> bekks: where can I specify the gid/uid mapping?
[13:12] <systemd0wn> einyx, I'd like to determine what about it is so slow. Any suggestions? I added Googles IPv6 DNS servers which didn't seem to change anything.
[13:12] <bekks> f0086: In the mount command.
[13:12] <bekks> f0086: you can specify which uid/gid the external uid/gid should be maped to.
[13:13] <einyx> systemd0wn, is hard to tell, maybe with a traceroute you can see if there is some hop from which the connection start to slow down
[13:14] <systemd0wn> I just tried ipv6-test.com/speedtest to compare and it says I'm getting nearly 26Mbps on both.
[13:15] <systemd0wn> einyx: I'll do some tinkering. In the meantime do you know how I can disable IPv6 in the network manager? I know I can specify to disable it at boot but I'd rather not.
[13:17] <einyx> systemd0wn, errr i think if you go into network settings -> wired -> options you can say "ignore"
[13:17] <einyx> or something like that :D
[13:22] <systemd0wn> einyx: I appreciate the help. But ignore doesn't seem to do it.
[13:34] <kokut> Hello, how do you check your brightness settings from the terminal?
[13:35] <einyx> systemd0wn, lol
[13:35] <pbx> kokut, xbacklight is what i use
[13:36] <einyx> systemd0wn, check under /proc
[13:37] <einyx> you should be able to echo under proc on a file called disable_ipv6
[13:37] <fuffy> Hello. Which linux can I use on a Pentium 3 with 120MB RAM? I just need a web browser in there.
[13:37] <pbx> kokut, it lets you control the level too. e.g. http://dpaste.com/3XZJW56
[13:37] <MonkeyDust> fuffy try lubuntu
[13:37] <fuffy> MonkeyDust: lubuntu needs to much ram
[13:38] <MonkeyDust> fuffy it's the "lightest", maybe look for an ever lighter distro
[13:39] <k1l_> fuffy: you could try a minimal install and see whats working for you. but i think with a that old device you want some of the really small distros
[13:39] <fuffy> MonkeyDust: it may be the lightest ubuntu
[13:39] <kokut> pbx: nice, i dontk now why but when i turn on my laptop after unpluggin the external monitor it lowers my brightness and the GUI to change it from ubuntu is bugged, i set it to the max and it goes to 80% so i have to set it up myself
[13:41] <pbx> kokut, yeah, there are ways to manage brightness automatically depending on power state but i haven't found any simple enough for my liking. so i have simple shell aliases that use xbacklight
[13:42] <MonkeyDust> fuffy or what k1l_ says, the minimal install and install just what you need
[13:43] <fuffy> MonkeyDust: do you know of any web browser who can display images but doesnt need X?
[13:44] <PierreBitant> Lynx ?
[13:45] <hkrrsx> fuffy: w3m text browser in xterm will show images
[13:45] <hkrrsx> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R2bMUtCOGko
[13:46] <fuffy> hkrrsx: thanks
[13:47] <hkrrsx> fuffy: you're welcome
[13:47] <asd_> Can somebody help me out with this issue? http://paste.ubuntu.com/10718355/
[13:49] <MonkeyDust> asd_ what's the outcome of cat /etc/issue
[13:49] <emh_> I am experiencing some weird king of keyboard 'lag' (keystrokes or key releases won't always get registered) when using memory intensive Java applications, what direction should i look for a solution?
[13:49] <asd_> MonkeyDust, Ubuntu 14.04.2 LTS \n \l
[13:49] <MonkeyDust> asd_ then first do sudo apt-get update
[13:51] <asd_> MonkeyDust, Still same output, i tried installing with aptitude but nothing happened.
[13:52] <MonkeyDust> asd_ try changing the miroor in system settings > software & update > download from
[13:57] <zykotick9> MonkeyDust: i'd guess that "you have held broken packages." might be contributing to asd's issue
[13:58] <rmelo> Hi guys, anyone with a Asus K550JK?
[14:02] <zykotick9> rmelo: perhaps, you should ask your real question instead...
[14:10] <rmelo> zykotick9: got it, I have a Asus K550J and the wireless keeps disconnecting
[14:10] <rmelo> it seems this wireless card really sucks
[14:11] <rmelo> anyone got arount this?
[14:11] <rmelo> the wireless card is a Realtek RTL8821AE
[14:12] <phre4k> when I uninstall light-locker, does the screen not get locked anymore?
[14:12] <phre4k> how can I prevent the screen from being locked automatically? The light-locker-settings app doesn't seem to channge anything.
[14:15] <ponyrider> rmelo: try rmmod rtl8821ae
[14:16] <ponyrider> rmelo: then modprobe rtl8821ae
[14:17] <ponyrider> rmelo: sprunge your logs: cat /var/log/syslog | grep -e wlan -e rtl | tail -n20
[14:29] <Tahvok> Hey guys, I'm searching all over Google and can't find the answer. PHP extensions (the .so file) reside in /usr/lib/php5/20121212 - what does the 20121212 stand for? What decides on its number?
[14:30] <zykotick9> Tahvok: just a guess, but could that be a date?
[14:31] <Tahvok> zykotick9: I think it's a date as well. But date of what?
[14:31] <zykotick9> ? i was just guessing... i have no knowledge ;)
[14:31] <jamesleimer> instalation?
[14:32] <ObrienDave> version date?
[14:32] <ObrienDave> looks like 2012 dec 12th
[14:32] <Tahvok> It's a recently installed system (and updated). And apache build date is: Mar 10 2015 13:05:59
[14:33] <ObrienDave> ask the dev?
[14:34] <SAMMI> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1339598
[14:34] <SAMMI> check here see if it can help
[14:34] <ObrienDave> devs do weird things like naming modules after girlfriends/spouse, 1st child's birth date, etc.
[14:41] <rmelo> ponyrider: what should I be looking for? I see some warnings, shall I put them here?
[14:42] <SAMMI> yes
[14:44] <rmelo> after I connect to a network I have:
[14:45] <rmelo> Apr 1 07:41:42 P3D001 wpa_supplicant[1130]: nl80211: send_and_recv->nl_recvmsgs failed: -33
[14:49] <rmelo> Every few seconds the syslog is bombarded by this modul's log messages
[14:50] <rmelo> Where can I find some kingd of more up to date version for this specific driver?
[14:50] <rmelo> since I am on 14.04 maybee there is a more stable version
[14:51] <bekks> rmelo: For a Realtek Wifi?
[14:51] <bekks> rmelo: Do you have the chance to get some more reliable wifi hardware?
[14:52] <genii> Gah, Realtek
[14:54] <rmelo> bekks: unfortnetly no...
[14:54] <bajul> Hi, I have issues installing Ubuntu 14.10 on a Lenovo w540. When trying to install the OS it gets stuck on different places (eg.:configuring network, just displaying the ubuntu logo at boot, when asking to install third party updates,...)
[14:55] <bekks> rmelo: No chance of getting some USB wifi?
[14:55] <rmelo> not an option for this laptop's purpose. Is the realtek really so bad in Linux?
[14:55] <bajul> Is anyone able to help me diagnose this issue?
[14:57] <bekks> rmelo: Yes.
[14:58] <bekks> rmelo: Calling it "crap" is not understated.
[15:00] <RudeViper> Under ubuntu 14.04.2 - is the init script functioning or has init been handed over to upstart?
[15:00] <freen0d3rr> any chinese I need a little help here
[15:00] <bekks> !cn | freen0d3rr
[15:01] <bekks> !upstart | RudeViper
[15:01] <RudeViper> that did not answer the quest
[15:01] <freen0d3rr> ubottu: are you so smart ? :)
[15:01] <RudeViper> question
[15:01] <freen0d3rr> ubottu: open source?
[15:02] <john_doe_jr> When I log in through SSH I get the following warning => WARNING: This is a private computer system and is for authorized use only"….how do I stop that?
[15:02] <genii> freen0d3rr: the Chinese support channel is at #ubuntu-cn or if Taiwanese then #ubuntu-tw
[15:03] <freen0d3rr> genii: i just need some help from a chinese who has pen.baidu.com account.
[15:03] <freen0d3rr> :)
[15:03] <freen0d3rr> there is a file , I would ask him to download and email me since I cant access to it
[15:04] <mcphail> freen0d3rr: that is not an ubuntu support question and is offtopic on this channel
[15:05] <freen0d3rr> mcphail: I know but I could find no other place for help. any recommendation?
[15:05] <mcphail> freen0d3rr: no
[15:05] <BBLLCC> hi, are you having trouble withf irefox? I cannot start it anymore, i can only start it on safe mode
[15:07] <Agent86> hi ubuntu, I have a .py file that I transfer via local network to another ubuntu computer. But the .py file is permission locked when it gets to the other computer. I can't run the .py script and cannot unlock the permissions
[15:07] <Agent86> The file starts out as chmod 777 so it's unlocked why would it lock on the other side ?
[15:07] <Agent86> and cannot be unlocked via terminal ?
[15:08] <somsip> Agent86: how do you transfer it?
[15:08] <Agent86> I copy and past to the shared folder on the other computer, I do it from the source computer, to the target
[15:09] <Agent86> in other words I'm at the source computer, and copy to the target
[15:09] <mcphail> Agent86: if you are sharing over samba, I don't think that respects the original file permissions
[15:09] <Agent86> should I be at the target computer and copy from source
[15:09] <bekks> Agent86: How exactly do you copy the file?
[15:10] <Agent86> well they are both ubuntu computers and I don't believe I'm using samba just the browse network feature of ubuntu to the shared folder
[15:11] <Agent86> copy and paste and I have no noticed this before for some reason it seems to be only .py files I can copy a .mp3 just fine and change permissions on the file all I want
[15:11] <bekks> Copy and paste from where to where?
[15:12] <Agent86> ahhhh I think I figured out, I had geany open and was editing it, so when I copied the file it was already open
[15:12] <Agent86> yikes,
[15:14] <Agent86> oh well that wasn't it
[15:14] <Agent86> still locked
[15:14] <Agent86> i just use the built in ubuntu browse network, select my local file and copy to Music folder on the other local machine
[15:15] <Agent86> it's locked on the other end
[15:15] <bekks> Agent86: Define "locked".
[15:15] <bekks> Agent86: Pastebin ls -lha filename after you copied the file please.
[15:15] <Agent86> meaning right click and says permission could not be determined and has a little padlock icon on it. Also if I chmod 777 file it says something
[15:15] <Agent86> ok
[15:16] <MDTech-us_MAN> hello
[15:16] <Agent86> ls -lha from which machine does it matter
[15:16] <bekks> Agent86: From the machine where the "file is locked".
[15:16] <ri> ciao
[15:16] <MDTech-us_MAN> what is a good backup solutions that has a web frontend as opposed to a GUI?
[15:17] <bekks> MDTech-us_MAN: backuppc has a web frontend.
[15:17] <MDTech-us_MAN> ok. I will look at it
[15:18] <MDTech-us_MAN> looks interesting
[15:18] <pbx> MDTech-us_MAN, there are several online backup contenders. e.g. https://www.starryhope.com/online-backup-solutions-for-ubuntu-linux/
[15:19] <bekks> pbx: I guess he wants a local backup tool, not a cloud-based backup service.
[15:19] <MDTech-us_MAN> I dont like backing up to the cloud
[15:19] <bekks> (which I would never trust at all).
[15:20] <MDTech-us_MAN> same
[15:20] <pbx> MDTech-us_MAN, what on earth did you mean by "web frontend" then??
[15:20] <BluesKaj> yeah, that's what a spare HDD is for
[15:20] <bekks> pbx: Soe web page being opened in a browser?
[15:20] <bekks> pbx: Like: http://localhost/backuppc/
[15:20] <MDTech-us_MAN> I mean the frontend would run from the computer that is being backed up
[15:21] <MDTech-us_MAN> especially useful for ubuntu server ;)
[15:21] <bekks> MDTech-us_MAN: I am using a CLI based backup solution for my server.
[15:22] <MDTech-us_MAN> I know the command like is powerful and great and all, but a web just makes it that much easier
[15:23] <MDTech-us_MAN> I already spend most of my time on command lines
[15:23] <MDTech-us_MAN> lol
[15:23] <bekks> MDTech-us_MAN: So what do you need eye candy for? :)
[15:24] <MDTech-us_MAN> I don't have to write 100 characters to start/schedule a backup
[15:24] <bekks> MDTech-us_MAN: And backuppc isnt a point and click solution. You have to configure (on a command line) what you want to do there.
[15:24] * mcphail types "rsnapshot daily" if he hasn't already set up a cron job to do the same
[15:25] * bekks types "runbackups.sh" and presses enter.
[15:25] * somsip gets a cup of coffee while the cronjob runs
[15:25] <neil_> hi, I have complied a program it uses a library (libonion.so.0) ... "gcc post.c -o post -lonion" ... when using ldd it shows "libonion.so.0 => not found" ... how do I get gcc to set the full path to this library ?
[15:27] <genii> neil_: sudo ldconfig /path/to/libonion-things
[15:29] <neil_> genii, so what would that do?
[15:38] <irreverant> has anyone seen this?
[15:38] <irreverant> http://www.version2.dk/blog/sudo-apt-get-install-microsoftwindows81-og-der-virker-129703
[15:38] <irreverant> it's in Danish
[15:39] <cfhowlett> irreverant, as this is the english speaking channel and it's for ubuntu ... no we haven't read it.
[15:39] <irreverant> but; they are saying that you can apt-get install microsoftwindows8.1 and it will install windows as an application?
[15:39] <bekks> irreverant: Did you take a look at the current date?
[15:39] <cfhowlett> irreverant, ask someone who reads danish??
[15:39] <somsip> irreverant: type "date" in a terminal...
[15:39] <irreverant> cfhowlett, it's about Ubuntu and you can translate it to english using Chromium
[15:39] <cfhowlett> irreverant, what day is today?
[15:40] <irreverant> OH!
[15:40] <irreverant> hahahahhahaha!
[15:40] <cfhowlett> irreverant, let me fix that for you: D'oh!
[15:40] <Audaces> hahah ;D
[15:41] <Audaces> Humor aside, is it possible to put ubuntu asleep, and then boot to windows, and then put windows to sleep, and but to the sleeping ubuntu
[15:45] <bibi-23> I have some text in a file, most of the content is ok, but I have weird characters like this "ądzeń –", how can I know what encoding it should be?
[15:47] <bekks> bibi-23: Characters from another charset.
[15:49] <bibi-23> bekks: but how can I know which one, I'd like to convert it.
[15:51] <unicr0n> @bibi-23 this might help to ident: http://i-tools.org/charset/exec
[15:53] <argha> hello can anybody tell me how ti install skype in ubuntu 14.10
[15:53] <ObrienDave> !skype
[15:53] <pbx> argha, what have you tried and what specific problems have you had?
[15:54] <ConsoleFx> argha, http://www.howopensource.com/2012/10/to-install-skype-4-0-0-8-in-ubuntu-12-10-12-04-using-ppa/
[15:54] <avansledright> http://www.unixmen.com/install-skype-ubuntu-14-1014-0412-04/
[15:56] <rivares1853> Hello!!! Can you help me? How preference samba? I can send message consisting only from certain words, example: Yes, Done, Hi, Up, Down, Center... .Input command write: "smbclient -b 6 -U PC0 -M PC1". From "Hello"? he write : "cli_message returned NT_STATUS_CONNECTION_DISCONNECTED"
[15:58] <bibi-23> unicr0n: the link doesn't work, what is it?
[15:59] <gndlp> hey so what does cntl alt L call in 14.04? I am trying to make it launch xscreensaver
[15:59] <unicr0n> bibi-23: second try: http://i-tools.org/charset/
[16:00] <unicr0n> bibi-23: it's charset/enc online converter
[16:03] <argha> pbs actually i am noob that;s why i don;t know how to install skype in ubuntu
[16:03] <argha> can you tell me in details
[16:04] <argha> I know how to install skype from windows
[16:04] <argha> whaat i have to write at terminal?
[16:04] <ObrienDave> !skype
[16:04] <argha> hello pbx
[16:04] <cfhowlett> argha, sudo apt-get skype
[16:04] <rivares1853> sudo apt-get install skype
[16:04] <cfhowlett> *sudo apt-get install skype*
[16:05] <h0ddH3d> rivares1853: http://askubuntu.com/questions/488053/how-to-install-skype-4-3
[16:05] <argha> would i get the graohical interfaace by typin this command in the termina?
[16:05] <h0ddH3d> sorry not rivares1853 :p
[16:05] <rivares1853> =)))
[16:05] <OerHeks> cfhowlett, ,make sure argha enabled the partner repo
[16:05] <cfhowlett> OerHeks, true.
[16:05] <argha> fro where?
[16:05] <OerHeks> !partner
[16:05] <cfhowlett> argha, choose a lane; you want the command line or graphical method.
[16:06] <argha> cmnd line
[16:07] <argha> cfh**
[16:07] <cfhowlett> argha, first you must enable partner repos; sudo <your editor here> /etc/apt/sources.list remove the ## from the partners entry
[16:07] <cfhowlett> argha, save that, sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install skype
[16:08] <argha> ok i am trying
[16:09] <rivares1853> Hello!!! Can you help me? How preference samba? I can send message consisting only from certain words, example: Yes, Done, Hi, Up, Down, Center... .Input command write: "smbclient -b 6 -U PC0 -M PC1". From "Hello"? he write : "cli_message returned NT_STATUS_CONNECTION_DISCONNECTED
[16:09] <gndlp> anyone know what file cntrl alt L calls in 14.04? trying to rig up xscreensaver
[16:10] <argha> first i type sudo vim /etc/apt/source.list
[16:10] <argha> after typing this i get the editor from the terminal
[16:10] <argha> after that what i have to do chf
[16:10] <cfhowlett> argha, yes
[16:11] <cfhowlett> argha, ctrl-f (search for) partner. uncomment the partner entries by removing ##
[16:12] <researcher1> AFter fresh install of ubuntu 14.04 how can i creat root user and password
[16:12] <k1l_> researcher1: you dont do that on ubuntu
[16:12] <OerHeks> argha, just do it from softwarecenter, or take a read https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Ubuntu#Adding_Canonical_Partner_Repositories
[16:13] <k1l_> researcher1: you preface "sudo" to the commands that need rooti rights. but dont just run every command with sudo.
[16:13] <cfhowlett> !root | researcher1
[16:13] <RudeViper> I am seeing this in my htop screen on my ubuntu 14.04 server... can someone tell me what this is? 24942 root 20 0 107M 6556 5492 S 0.0 0.2 0:00.09 sshd: root@notty - is this someone logged into my system's ssh?
[16:13] <researcher1> cfhowlett: thanks
[16:14] <cfhowlett> researcher1, happy2help!
[16:14] <sheap> In my preseed the LVM stuff gets created automatically, but the bootable flag does not get set to /dev/md126p1 (which is mounted to /boot, and where GRUB is installed). Is there a way I can have the LVM stuff made automatically but just have the bootable flag added to a specific partition?
[16:14] <argha> could i install it from synaptic package manager?
[16:14] <Blueking> hello, just wonder if there are ways to detect if net is down and auto perform 'service networking restart' ?
[16:15] <ObrienDave> argha, yes
[16:15] <cfhowlett> argha, yes, but you must enable partner repo first
[16:15] <ObrienDave> and update repos
[16:17] <muchacha> hi guys, I would like to remap the key ; with :. Is this possible?
[16:18] <h0ddH3d> muchacha: Do you want it to use VIM?
[16:18] <muchacha> h0ddH3d: yes, it' intended for vim
[16:19] <Blueking> what's default telnet port ?
[16:19] <ioria> 22
[16:19] <gndlp> @blueking 21
[16:19] <gndlp> Blueking: 21
[16:19] <gndlp> 22 is ssh
[16:19] <ioria> ftp is 21
[16:19] <gndlp> 21 is telnet
[16:19] <gndlp> opps
[16:19] <gndlp> 23
[16:19] <gndlp> lol
[16:20] <gndlp> 22 +/- 1
[16:20] <ioria> let me check
[16:20] <h0ddH3d> muchacha: http://vim.wikia.com/wiki/Map_semicolon_to_colon
[16:20] <gndlp> Common Ports
[16:20] <gndlp> 20 FTP data (File Transfer Protocol)
[16:20] <gndlp> 21 FTP (File Transfer Protocol)
[16:20] <gndlp> 22 SSH (Secure Shell)
[16:20] <gndlp> 23 Telnet
[16:21] <ioria> yep
[16:21] <Meway-Desktop> whats ubuntus partioning software called? (I'm using ubuntu server ediiton on a vm thats running on windows 7) I've done what I needed to do on windows side of things but now I need to increase the partion size and don't know how I would go about doing that via terminal.
[16:22] <Audaces> its gparted
[16:22] <ParSalian> apt-get gparted
[16:22] <BluesKaj> Meway-Desktop, gparted
[16:22] <teaearlgraycold> For a VM with 3.5GB of RAM, what's a good amount of swap?
[16:22] <Meway-Desktop> ty
[16:22] <Audaces> 10 ish
[16:22] <Audaces> all you need is 8 though
[16:23] <Meway-Desktop> Teaearlgraycold 6-10
[16:23] <Audaces> general rule is double plus a bit spare
[16:23] <teaearlgraycold> 6-8GB of Swap?
[16:23] <ParSalian> is there a general good practice on sizing swap?
[16:23] <cfhowlett> teaearlgraycold, the rule used to be 1.5 - 2 times ram so ...
[16:23] <k1l_> Audaces: nope
[16:23] <Blueking> telnet not enabled on ubuntu by default ?
[16:23] <k1l_> teaearlgraycold: if you want to suspend to ram you need at least the same amount as ram. besides form that you can set it to what you like
[16:23] <teaearlgraycold> It's got a 30GB disk though :/
[16:23] <ioria> Blueking, no and it shouldn't
[16:23] <Audaces> There seems to be alot of varying opinions
[16:24] <Blueking> I want telnet ,)
[16:24] <cfhowlett> !telnet | BlueByte-
[16:24] <SchrodingersScat> !info telnet | Blueking
[16:24] <Audaces> !mtp
[16:24] <cfhowlett> bluebyte sorry blueking see above
[16:24] <SchrodingersScat> Blueking: is standard, you should have it.
[16:25] <Blueking> refused :P
[16:25] <Meway-Desktop> teaearlgraycold: sorry for the bad news xD
[16:25] <teaearlgraycold> He, yeah
[16:25] <SchrodingersScat> Blueking: if you mean something that responds to telnet, then what are you talking about?
[16:25] <teaearlgraycold> It's only got 1GB right now cause I just guessed
[16:25] <Meway-Desktop> will gparted work proper in a terminal? (its not installed by default)
[16:26] <gndlp> Blueking: what are you trying to accomplish?
[16:26] <ioria> Blueking, well .. it's usefull if youare working testing pop3 or smtp
[16:26] <Audaces> Meway-Desktop just use sudo apt-get install gparted
[16:26] <Meway-Desktop> I'm using ubuntu server
[16:26] <cfhowlett> Meway-Desktop, gparted is a gui app, so not terminal based ....
[16:26] <Blueking> have to make a scipt to do 'service networking restart'
[16:27] <cfhowlett> Meway-Desktop, parted is the cli app
[16:27] <ioria> Blueking, ^ç^
[16:27] <Meway-Desktop> cfhowlett: so install parted or gparted? or does it come with gparted?
[16:27] <Meway-Desktop> mv
[16:27] <Meway-Desktop> nvm
[16:27] <Meway-Desktop> cfhowlett: any tips on using parted?
[16:28] <k1l_> Meway-Desktop: gparted is the GUI version. so i think you dont want that on a server, right?
[16:28] <Meway-Desktop> right ^
[16:28] <cfhowlett> Meway-Desktop, take your time, think twice before you press <enter> then think again.
[16:28] <Meway-Desktop> ty
[16:28] <Audaces> You can do everything you want, but your changes are reversable until you press the grren tick
[16:29] <cfhowlett> Audaces, no green tick in parted ... :)
[16:29] <Audaces> 8u
[16:29] <Audaces> AQW+36
[16:29] <ioria> Blueking, also if you wanna dare to use it , it should't be initialized at start
[16:29] <Meway-Desktop> I just want to change a 4gb HDD into 10gb lol
[16:29] <Audaces>
[16:30] <Audaces> oh whoops my mistake
[16:30] <Blueking> ioria I'd like to make a autodetect tool to notify if net has dropped and autoperform 'service networking restart' to get it online
[16:31] <OEP> Has anyone else noticed that if they have the 'clang' and 'gccgo' packages installed on their system that clang can no longer find its standard C++ headers?
[16:31] <ioria> Blueking, ok
[16:31] <Audaces> j bh
[16:32] <Meway-Desktop> Does anyone have experiance with parted? I'm afraid to touch things xD
[16:32] <SchrodingersScat> Blueking: what role are you using telnet for though? I don't understand.
[16:32] <Meway-Desktop> none of the data is sensative though
[16:33] <Meway-Desktop> so I won't lose anything
[16:33] <Blueking> if I can't have it done local on linux box I can do it from another pc with ytin running
[16:34] <Blueking> SchrodingersScat I am running ytin 24/7 that logs on my mud char on vikingmud gaining age :P
[16:35] <gaconsalt> https://vk.com/video?z=video250143506_171162483%2Falbum250143506 --- как это обьяснить))?
[16:37] <ibuidan> %get%system%config%target%server%domain%policy%autoconfig%shell%autorun%initrd.img%
[16:38] <Blueking> hmm telnet command are active on linux but can't telnet to itself ? :P
[16:39] <ioria> Blueking, you need telnetd the server side
[16:39] <teward> ^
[16:39] <SchrodingersScat> Blueking: you would need a server listening
[16:39] <Blueking> ok
[16:39] <ibuidan> Microsoft has been using a heavily modified Linux kernel for years!
[16:39] <SchrodingersScat> Blueking: normally to control ubuntu remotely you would use openssh
[16:39] <teward> !offtopic | ibuidan
[16:40] <ibuidan> it was just a April 1st prank
[16:40] <teward> ibuidan: still offtopic
[16:40] <philip__> when u archive on thunderbird what directory is it located
[16:41] <Blueking> ok fixed :)
[16:42] <philip__> when u archive on thunderbird what file directory is it located
[16:43] <Blueking> SchrodingersScat I know but just a temporarely solution to I get new access gateway from ISP at 8 april
[16:44] <ironfoot495> Hello people i'm trying to install vuze but I keep getting the wrong version. I put in vuze 5.1 but when I rebooted I lost it and not able to get it back right I could surely use some help.
[16:45] <k1l_> philip__: .thunderbird in your users home
[16:47] <ioria> Blueking, Lykke til
[16:47] <Blueking> får det fiksa
[16:47] <funkenstrahlen> hey, can someone please mention me? just to test sth.
[16:48] <Blueking> mekke et script i ytin :P
[16:48] <Blueking> ioria
[16:48] <ioria> Blueking, good
[16:48] <peppe_> Hi folks, we have 14.04 server and configured autoconf and accept_ra to 1 and forwarding to 0 though when host receives RA from router, it does not do anything (still stuck with fe80). any idea?
[16:49] <agrippaz> Hi all - need some help setting up my laptop with High-DPI. running into a lot of user interface size problems
[16:50] <agrippaz> i cranked up the global text size setting in the control panel
[16:50] <mchelen1> agrippaz, same problem here, are you using unity?
[16:50] <agrippaz> mchelen1: i believe so? 14.04 clean install
[16:51] <agrippaz> i have problems with menu bars too small, font size too big for places like the control panel
[16:51] <mchelen1> agrippaz, the system wide scaling is not just for fonts/text
[16:51] <agrippaz> my cursor size changes drastically depending on which app i'm in
[16:51] <agrippaz> well, the size setting is in the Fonts panel
[16:51] <cfhowlett> agrippaz, most apps are not optimized for high dpi.
[16:51] <peppe_> any can help us with SLAAC ?
[16:53] <mchelen1> agrippaz, hmm i used the one in Settings -> Display
[16:53] <agrippaz> mchelen1: is this how you live too? http://i.imgur.com/8LQPbV4.png
[16:53] <Meway-Desktop> on parted what are "primary, extended, logical" ?
[16:53] <mchelen1> agrippaz, what fonts panel?
[16:54] <agrippaz> ah i'm sorry mchelen1, i was using Unity Tweak Tool, where the Fonts panel is
[16:54] <Meway-Desktop> I assume primary is exactly what it means and logical is the system usage
[16:54] <mchelen1> agrippaz, nope, don't use unity tweak
[16:54] <mchelen1> agrippaz, at least not to start with
[16:54] <agrippaz> ah dang
[16:54] <Meway-Desktop> but is extended what I can add to primary?
[16:54] <Meway-Desktop> :|
[16:55] <mchelen1> agrippaz, go to Displays and look for "Scale for menu and title bars"
[16:55] <agrippaz> mchelen1: on your high-dpi system, are the menus and tabs in Chromium/Chrome very small? What machine ar eyou using?
[16:56] <agrippaz> mchelen1: got it. set to 1.38 which seems to be helping a bit
[16:56] <tucnak> hey there! I am trying to build a linux lib with cmake here, but unfortunely #include <gtk/gtk.h>: No such file or directory.
[16:56] <mchelen1> agrippaz, chromium is fine, but chrome is bad
[16:56] <tucnak> oh yeah, gtk dev package is installed
[16:56] <mchelen1> agrippaz, i have a lenovo x1 carbon, 2560x1440
[16:56] <agrippaz> mchelen1: that was my initial experience, although somehow Chromium has grown small and won't enlargen back
[16:56] <agrippaz> mchelen1: cool. on a Samsung ATIV Book 9 Plus here
[16:56] <mchelen1> agrippaz, i have my scale set to 3 :D
[16:57] <mchelen1> and didn't touch fonts
[16:57] <mchelen1> agrippaz, i was able to get most things to display ok in the main OS, but some apps are still not great
[16:57] <agrippaz> wow! if I choose 3.0 scaling, that's enormous
[16:57] <agrippaz> :)
[16:57] <Meway-Desktop> How do I get parted to allow me to utilize the full ammount of space available for my primary drive? http://i.imgur.com/w3aPCNk.png
[16:58] <agrippaz> mchelen1: darn. Windows 8.1 supports high-dpi like crap also. i was hoping to get to something better with Ubuntu
[16:59] <agrippaz> Meway-Desktop: migh have to look up the parted documentation for that
[16:59] <Meway-Desktop> I saw this http://www.thegeekstuff.com/2011/09/parted-command-examples/
[16:59] <ioria> tucnak you nedd dev- package
[16:59] <mchelen1> agrippaz, if you increase scaling you might need to set fonts back to default
[16:59] <Meway-Desktop> but I'm not so sure I understand it
[16:59] <tucnak> ioria: I do have it here
[17:00] <tucnak> ioria: and I can't run pkg-config, cos of cmake
[17:00] <cuddylier> Anyone know an IRC channel where making VPS boxes are discussed and that general topic?
[17:00] <agrippaz> mchelen1: okay, i'll play with the scaling size in Display and the font size in Tweak Tool, I think I can get an okay combo out of it. just wanted to check if there's a better way :)
[17:00] <Meway-Desktop> whats vps box?
[17:01] <ioria> tucnak, can you locate gtk.h
[17:01] <ioria> ?
[17:01] <ibuidan> meway-desktop *tip* use Partition Wizard Home Edititon bootable CD, like gparted live cd, but has option to convert logical volumes to primary volumes without formatting, without losing any data on the volume
[17:01] <mchelen1> agrippaz, everything i read points to using scaling, and that is supposed to handle things system-wide
[17:02] <tucnak> ioria: there is FindGtk in fact, thanks, fixed it!
[17:02] <agrippaz> mchelen1: thank you very much. you've been very helpful :)
[17:02] <agrippaz> good to talk to someone else in the same boat
[17:02] <ioria> tucnak, good
[17:02] <Meway-Desktop> ibuidan: that might help :>
[17:02] <Meway-Desktop> ibuidan: dont have a link off hand do you?
[17:03] <ibuidan> wait please
[17:04] <mchelen1> agrippaz, np, here is what i ended up with: http://i.imgur.com/2kaYIqY.jpg
[17:04] <ibuidan> http://www.partitionwizard.com/partition-wizard-bootable-cd.html
[17:04] <mchelen1> agrippaz, still trying to tweak it more
[17:05] <Meway-Desktop> ibuidan: ty
[17:06] <ibuidan> after the conversion , you can use ms-dos command line in Windows Recovery Environment to expand a volume using only next in volumke order, free, unallocatd space
[17:08] <ibuidan> i make, burn bootable cd using bootable iso images using PowerISO in Microsoft Windows
[17:13] <ibuidan> an extended partition can contain unlimited number of logical volumes
[17:14] <LucArionXY> hello
[17:14] <gndlp> LucArionXY: HI!
[17:14] <elie> hello
[17:14] <Guest60327> ok
[17:15] <Guest60327> ???
[17:15] <Guest60327> bye
[17:15] <LucArionXY> hello trapni
[17:15] <Audaces> how do I launch a hidden folder from terminal?
[17:15] <Audaces> If I do ls -a and get a result, how to I open with a gui
[17:16] <zykotick9> Audaces: in your file manger, try CTRL+h to see hidden files... <- one option
[17:16] <LucArionXY> defquien me va a comer os huevos ?
[17:16] <Audaces> oh that works, thanks
[17:18] <jabolele> hello
[17:18] <hkrrsx> Audaces: From a terminal, run " nautilus .folder " and the file manager will open the specified directory
[17:18] <hkrrsx> i.e. - nautilus ~/.config
[17:19] <jabolele> There are some Spanish?
[17:19] <ioria> in Spain ? yes
[17:20] <zykotick9> !es | jabolele
[17:20] <Audaces> ty
[17:21] <maesrin> kalispera paidia
[17:21] <ioria> kalispera
[17:23] <sheap> anyone know if there's anything special I have to wrap my late_command with in this case? http://paste.ubuntu.com/10719517/
[17:25] <starrion> for what purpose is this chat ?
[17:25] <Meway-Desktop> ibuidan: it won't merge the drives without premium :|
[17:26] <k1l_> !topic | starrion
[17:26] <ibuidan> well i tought you want to expand the volume not merge it with another volume
[17:26] <starrion> coñetas
[17:29] <OEP> sheap: that gets passed as the COMMAND argument to chroot. It's possible /bin/sh -c '...' may do what you need to.
[17:30] <OEP> sheap: I've never used pipes for something like that so YMMV
[17:30] <logan0407> hey guys im getting some real strange laptop keyboard behavior in lubuntu in certain apps. in firefox, and in games the keyboard misses keys sometimes and just puts in a space, and backspace malfunctions to. any suggestions?
[17:30] <ioria> logan0407, what laptop ?
[17:31] <logan0407> im on a chromebook with lubuntu installed
[17:31] <logan0407> acer c710
[17:31] <ioria> ohmy
[17:31] <logan0407> its only in certain apps, xchat works great
[17:31] <ibuidan> *thought , misspelled it
[17:31] <sheap> OEP: thanks, I was thinking because I didn't specify bash
[17:32] <logan0407> i just restarted firefox now typing seems to work fine, but it happens periodically randomly. anyone know what could be the cause?
[17:32] <geedilla> hello
[17:32] <geedilla> I'm using elementary os, and I'm having some trouble with wifi
[17:32] <geedilla> I'm not sure if it's because of my laptop's drivers or because I haven't specified the right kind of network security
[17:32] <ioria> logan0407, font cache or keyboard driver
[17:33] <lotuspsychje> !elementary | geedilla
[17:33] <logan0407> hmm i think it may be the font cache you are right
[17:34] <geedilla> ubottu: thanks
[17:34] <geedilla> I thought I'd try in here because no one's replying in that channel!
[17:35] <teward> geedilla: there's a thing called patience and I suggest you try some there. Elementary OS is not a supported derivative of Ubuntu (from the Ubuntu perspective).
[17:36] <OEP> sheap: what are you trying to do with fdisk? not sure what 'a' does.
[17:36] <geedilla> teward: thanks - that's helpful to know. but there's no need to be patronising
[17:36] <lotuspsychje> geedilla: we can reccomend you to install ubuntu desktop 14.04.2 and try out wifi
[17:36] <geedilla> I had linux mint working and it was perfect
[17:37] <geedilla> just thought I would try this distribution too, with less luck so far
[17:37] <geedilla> no worries - thanks all
[17:37] <MonkeyDust> geedilla try a distro that's more supported, like ubuntu
[17:38] <geedilla> agree
[17:38] <geedilla> thanks
[17:39] <lotuspsychje> someone knows a way to mount the HD of a windows laptop from ubuntu, without taking out the HD physicaly?
[17:40] <lotuspsychje> lets say to rescue data with photorec
[17:40] <teward> lotuspsychje: liveusb on the windows laptop used solely for the live interface, and you put photorec on the liveusb, maybe, would work
[17:41] <lotuspsychje> teward: ah great idea, tnx
[17:41] <teward> lotuspsychje: but if you don't physically have access to the machine it's going to be 'hard' to mount it remotely in a way that photorec would work
[17:41] <teward> lotuspsychje: get permission to do it on the system, though, for legal/liability purposes.
[17:41] <lotuspsychje> teward: i think also liveusb would be my best bet then, tnx
[17:42] <SysAdmin7> what about liveusb with persistence
[17:42] <SysAdmin7> install photorec
[17:42] <ibuidan> i just want to say that choosing between kde, gnome, unity, cinnamon, xfce, lxle, openbox, mate it's not just a matter of personal criticism. for example i use xfce, gonme, and lxle just becuse it provide a taskbar icon to chnage keyboard layout. i hope this thing could change in the near future
[17:42] <SysAdmin7> use docky...
[17:42] <lotuspsychje> SysAdmin7: docky?
[17:42] <lotuspsychje> ah nvm
[17:42] <ibuidan> docky?
[17:43] <SysAdmin7> yea
[17:43] <SysAdmin7> look it up
[17:43] <lotuspsychje> !info docky | ibuidan
[17:43] <teward> SysAdmin7: he could do that but he wouldn't necessarily have to
[17:43] <SysAdmin7> true, but i find it better that the lxle dock
[17:43] <teward> lotuspsychje: you may want to consider the LiveUSB with persistence if you want to set up the LiveUSB with packages for this before booting to it (such as the photorec package and dependencies)
[17:43] <SysAdmin7> already told him that
[17:44] <SysAdmin7> he may not have got it
[17:44] <lotuspsychje> yep ill do that tnx
[17:44] <lotuspsychje> i got it alrright
[17:44] <SysAdmin7> kool, tell us how it turns out
[17:44] <Guest65132> Hello, how do I install TeamWieur on Linux Mint KDE 64 bits Rebeca??
[17:44] <lotuspsychje> !mint | Guest65132
[17:45] <Meway-Desktop> yay I broke it thinks for the help xD q.q (got to learn somehow)
[17:46] * Meway-Desktop shrinks himself and jumps into the HDD needle
[17:54] <SysAdmin7> .
[18:00] <Draven> names
[18:03] <in_deep_thought> im trying to make a photo collage
[18:03] <in_deep_thought> any good suggestions for tools?
[18:03] <in_deep_thought> gimp?
[18:05] <lotuspsychje> in_deep_thought: there is an app photocollage, but you need to add a ppa: http://ubuntuhandbook.org/index.php/2014/06/make-photo-collage-ubuntu-1404/
[18:06] <in_deep_thought> lotuspsychje: thansk
[18:06] <lotuspsychje> !info fotowall | in_deep_thought found one :p
[18:09] <ibuidan> PCMANFM is a window manger? Can i use pcmanfm-lxde instead of openbox-lxde as a viable desktop session ?
[18:10] <lotuspsychje> !info pcmanfm | ibuidan
[18:10] <Na3iL> hey folks!
[18:11] <lotuspsychje> !windowmanagers | ibuidan
[18:11] <lotuspsychje> Na3iL: hello mate
[18:11] <Na3iL> hello lotuspsychje
[18:11] <Na3iL> hows u :)
[18:11] <ioria> ibuidan, no it's a file manager
[18:11] <lotuspsychje> Na3iL: can we help you with something?
[18:11] <Na3iL> what the wrong with Ubuntu core http://www.ubuntu.com/things
[18:12] <lotuspsychje> Na3iL: what do you mean 'wrong'?
[18:12] <ibuidan> fm -- file manager. never mind . thanks anyway
[18:12] <ioria> ibuidan, you mean on VNC ?
[18:13] <Na3iL> did u see the new project of Ubuntu ninja sphere?
[18:13] <Na3iL> the collaboration betwen Ubuntu and micro$oft?
[18:13] <MonkeyDust> Na3iL did you have a ubuntu support question?
[18:14] <ibuidan> i have lightdm installed and i use multiple lightdm - desktop environments compatible> openbox, xfce, lxde and ubuntu-session.
[18:14] <lotuspsychje> Na3iL: discuss those in #ubuntu-offtopic please
[18:15] <ioria> ibuidan, it's just a program ... you can run it as you want
[18:20] <h0ddH3d> How can i terminate the X server. I want to use "tty" to save more time when using battery.
[18:21] <ioria> h0ddH3d, you can modify grub to start in text mode and then start the windowmanager
[18:22] <Downchuck> I'm trying to re-use some tinycore binaries, but I keep getting: "No such file or directory", which I believe means linux does not recognize the binary
[18:22] <Downchuck> That said, "file" recognizes it quite fine.
[18:22] <Downchuck> ELF 64-bit LSB executable, x86-64, version 1 (SYSV), dynamically linked (uses shared libs), for GNU/Linux 3.0.21, stripped
[18:23] <h0ddH3d> ioria: How to do that?
[18:24] <ioria> h0ddH3d, modify /etc/default/grub and replace quite splash with text - sudo update-grub
[18:24] <ioria> h0ddH3d, then from the shell sudo service lightdm start
[18:25] <ioria> h0ddH3d, or gdm or what you have
[18:27] <Downchuck> Not that I'm right, but answering my own question anyway: Downchuck, have you tried running "ldd" and seeing if some linked libraries are missing?
[18:28] <h0ddH3d> ioria: Thanks, Can I add new option to grub. So the first one start ubuntu normaly and the other one start without The X server ??
[18:28] <ioria> h0ddH3d, yep
[18:29] <Gevox> helo, i mounted a folder with noatime using "mount -o remount,noatime /dev/md2 /home/www/uploads/tmp -t ext4" then mount -a. now the dir contains everything was in /home directory and whenever i delete a file from the tmp directory the file get deleted from the home directory too
[18:29] <Gevox> how can i solve this please?
[18:29] <h0ddH3d> ioria: How?
[18:30] <ioria> h0ddH3d, well... Xinit it's not started ithink
[18:34] <h0ddH3d> ioria: Thanks for helping ^_^ I will search for it.
[18:34] <ioria> h0ddH3d, np
[18:40] <agrippaz> Anyone know how to disable the Keyring unlock nag when starting Chromium on a fresh install of 14.04?
[19:05] <Guest20728> Hi. New Acer Aspire Nitro i7(Secure boot disabled). I installed Win7 with intention of installing XUbuntu 14.04 as dual boot. However, the installer doesn't see Windows(part editor sees a blank HDD). However, Xubuntu file explorer(Thunar) sees the files the OS created. What can I do?
[19:06] <ObrienDave> try the "something else? option
[19:06] <ObrienDave> *"something else"
[19:06] <Guest20728> It shows no OS.
[19:07] <Guest20728> I might reinstall Win7 with Secureboot enabled.
[19:07] <ObrienDave> worth a try, i think
[19:07] * Guest20728 fucking hates secureboot
[19:07] <lotuspsychje> !uefi | Guest20728
[19:07] <Erfolg> win7 doesn't work w/ secureboot
[19:07] <Guest20728> Erfolg, i was afraid of that :)
[19:08] <lotuspsychje> Guest20728: make your life easy and install ubuntu 14.04 single :p
[19:08] <Guest20728> lotuspsychje, i want to.. but I want win around for work reasons(sometimes a vm dont cut it).
[19:08] <lotuspsychje> Guest20728: wine or playonlinux might do the trick
[19:08] <Guest20728> I don't want MS to die but I will be glad when they are a minority in the future of PC architecture...and not heard.
[19:09] <lotuspsychje> Guest20728: alot of packages can replace your work needs already on ubuntu
[19:09] * Guest20728 is no stranger to linux.
[19:09] <Guest20728> I know, but I have 1tb and used to dual boot elsewhere
[19:11] * ObrienDave is thinking about taking apart 2TB seagate portable for laptop drive
[19:12] <azizLIGHT> do i have trim for my ssd in ubuntu ?
[19:12] <lotuspsychje> !trim | azizLIGHT
[19:12] <Guest20728> 14.04 has it built in AFAIK
[19:12] <azizLIGHT> i am on 14.04
[19:12] <lotuspsychje> azizLIGHT: but there are still many tweaks you can do on your ssd
[19:12] <azizLIGHT> how do i verify it active?
[19:12] <azizLIGHT> lotuspsychje: oh yes? please tell
[19:13] <lotuspsychje> azizLIGHT: tweak your fstab, swappiness
[19:13] <k1l_> azizLIGHT: since 14.04 its automated batched discard
[19:13] <lotuspsychje> azizLIGHT: install preload
[19:13] <Guest20728> and throw swap on a spinning HDD if you can
[19:13] * Guest20728 prefers a swapfile not a swap partition.
[19:14] <azizLIGHT> ok... im not familiar with alot of what was just said
[19:14] <lotuspsychje> azizLIGHT: https://sites.google.com/site/easylinuxtipsproject/ssd
[19:14] <azizLIGHT> what tweaks are there for fstab for an ssd? some specific mount options or something?
[19:15] <lotuspsychje> azizLIGHT: yes, i use relatime and tpmfs dirs
[19:15] <azizLIGHT> k1l_: i read that its for some models? i have samsung 850 evo
[19:15] <k1l_> azizLIGHT: lists "la -al /etc/cron.weekly/" a fstrim file?
[19:16] <k1l_> azizLIGHT: it doesnt matter what model
[19:16] <azizLIGHT> yes i see a fstrim file listed with that command
[19:16] <bootwithlibraryc> i borked my install, and now im trying to install a live boot to a usb using a library computer wwhich wont let you install programs
[19:16] <k1l_> azizLIGHT: so it trims once a week automatically. nothing to worry
[19:17] <bootwithlibraryc> can i just move the contents of an iso to a usb disk and have that work?\
[19:17] <sidavy> hi
[19:17] <lotuspsychje> !info preload | azizLIGHT install this also to boost up
[19:17] <azizLIGHT> Guest20728: so correct me if im wrong, you put the swap on your hdd so it doesnt wear out the ssd, right?
[19:17] <yorwos> hey guyz , if i make a new user and wanna copy all my desktop settings (panels + shortcuts) how could i do it ?
[19:17] <Guest20728> azizLIGHT, yes. although i dont care about wearing out the SSD. I care about the space
[19:18] <azizLIGHT> oh, i have 16gb swap space
[19:18] <k1l_> azizLIGHT: how much ram you got?
[19:18] <azizLIGHT> 16gb ram
[19:18] <lotuspsychje> azizLIGHT: you can set your firefox to buffer 0 also
[19:18] <ObrienDave> bootwithlibraryc, no, it does not work that way. DVD yes, USB no
[19:18] <azizLIGHT> lotuspsychje: wow that sounds useful, what will it do?
[19:18] <bootwithlibraryc> ObrienDave: it worked with windows
[19:18] <k1l_> azizLIGHT: so you might not need swap at all if you dont use ram hungry porgrams or want to suspend to ram
[19:19] <lotuspsychje> azizLIGHT: use your ssd power instead of ram on firefox
[19:19] <azizLIGHT> i like suspend, but i will move it to hdd, like Guest20728 said
[19:19] <k1l_> lotuspsychje: what?
[19:19] <azizLIGHT> lotuspsychje: i dont get it?
[19:19] <k1l_> lotuspsychje: ram is a lot faster than ssds.
[19:19] <Erfolg> bootwithlibraryc, you can dd the iso to usb
[19:19] <bootwithlibraryc> like not the iso itself, but the actual contents. the partition fat32 has the boot flag
[19:20] <bootwithlibraryc> Erfolg: on windows. I dont think it has dd, does it?\
[19:20] <lotuspsychje> k1l_: buffer on 0 here on samsung evo 840 and works rocketfast
[19:20] <lotuspsychje> k1l_: but im on a netbook with 2gig ram only
[19:21] <azizLIGHT> k1l_: should i use any fstab options for an ssd?
[19:21] <azizLIGHT> lotuspsychje: oh ok. in that case ill not use buffer 0 for firefox. i got 16gb ram
[19:21] <Erfolg> bootwithlibraryc, there's a windd program i believe and msys2 also has dd
[19:22] <lotuspsychje> azizLIGHT: check the link on ssd tweaking i pasted you
[19:22] <bootwithlibraryc> mmmm ill have to see
[19:22] <azizLIGHT> ah yea forgot about that
[19:23] <azizLIGHT> thanks
[19:23] <lotuspsychje> azizLIGHT: relatime in fstab works pretty good
[19:23] <lotuspsychje> azizLIGHT: instead of noatime
[19:23] <azizLIGHT> must i do something special for trim with luks and lvm?
[19:24] <bootwithlibraryc> lol my way seems to have worked :)
[19:24] <k1l_> azizLIGHT: honestly i dont like that tune up site. what about you start with the ubuntu standards and read yourself into the topic, so you can decide yourself what is best
[19:25] <azizLIGHT> alright
[19:25] <azizLIGHT> one thing defintely i will do is move my swap from ssd to hdd
[19:26] <bootwithlibraryc> oh shit
[19:27] <CptRageToaster> I've got a friend on Mint16, which appears to be based on saucy
[19:27] <bootwithlibraryc> flipping windows borked my partition table. where an ext4 is, shows empty space. How do I recover?
[19:28] * zykotick9 has his swap on ssd (because of the speed), he doesn't hope for his SSDs to last 5-10 years, they'll be replaced before then... YMMV
[19:28] <CptRageToaster> are there any live browers/search functions to find libselinux.so.1(32bit) for saucy?
[19:28] <k1l_> CptRageToaster: for info about mint see their channel /website
[19:28] <k1l_> !mint | CptRageToaster
[19:28] <CptRageToaster> I'm just after the repository browser...
[19:28] <CptRageToaster> which I thought would be here: http://packages.ubuntu.com/uk/
[19:28] <CptRageToaster> but saucy appears to be missing
[19:28] <Dan_C> Hello
[19:29] <k1l_> CptRageToaster: mint uses some mix of different repos. so please ask them
[19:29] <polishpoliceforc> In the context of Mat being a datatype for an array that describes an image, what would Mat edge = gray > = edgeThresh, dist, labels; mean?
[19:29] <ObrienDave> !saucy
[19:29] <polishpoliceforc> oops
[19:29] <polishpoliceforc> wrong channel sorry
[19:29] <k1l_> CptRageToaster: saucy is shut down. so last time now: please ask mint support about mint issues.
[19:33] <bprompt> CptRageToaster: http://stackoverflow.com/questions/27932825/resolve-error-while-loading-shared-libraries-libselinux-so-1-in-ubuntu-14-04-lt points to "ldconfig", likely needed to be run as "su", or sudo, also you may want to try a "sudo dpkg --configure -a"
[19:39] <hackspace> /join #mk-makerspace
[19:41] <Bray90820> How would I permanently mount an EX4 SMB share on ubuntu 14.10
[19:41] <drozek123> How can anyone help me remove a video output from xrandr?
[19:41] <bekks> Whats an "EX4 SMB" share?
[19:42] <lotuspsychje> !xrandr | drozek123
[19:42] <Bray90820> bekks: it's a QNAP Nas with an EX4 file system
[19:43] <bekks> Bray90820: I never heard of "EX4". Do you mean "ext4"?
[19:43] <Bray90820> Oh sorry yes I did mean EXT4
[19:43] <drozek123> ubottu: I want to complete remove HDMI whenever I run xrandr
[19:43] <bekks> Bray90820: And the underlying filesystem is irrelevant, since you mount the smb share.
[19:43] <bekks> Bray90820: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently
[19:44] <Bray90820> bekks: Does it matter that that is a windows share tutorial
[19:44] <bekks> Bray90820: No. Because smb shares are Windows shares.
[19:45] <ubuntu_> hello.
[19:45] <Bray90820> bekks: what exactly do you mean by windows share because windows is not installed on this qnap
[19:45] <ubuntu_> hello body
[19:46] <bekks> Bray90820: SMB is a filesharing protocol which is used by Windows.
[19:46] <k1l_> Bray90820: samba is a windows protocol
[19:46] <k1l_> Bray90820: so it doesnt matter if its provided by a windows or a linux server. all your ubuntu sees is the samba
[19:46] <CptRageToaster> I found a way to search the available repositories...
[19:46] <siminm> Hello everyone! Is there a way to pause syslog from writing to disk?
[19:46] <CptRageToaster> is it not normal to handle debian based questions?
[19:47] <k1l_> CptRageToaster: for debian question please see #debian
[19:47] <ObrienDave> here? this is Ubuntu support
[19:47] <CptRageToaster> or even questions specifically about ubuntu repositories?
[19:47] <CptRageToaster> debian makes sense, and I'd go to #debian...
[19:47] <Pici> CptRageToaster: As we said before Saucy reached its end of life a year ago, it is not supported.
[19:47] <k1l_> CptRageToaster: please stop the drama now! if you use mint, ask the mint support. if you dont like their support, dont use mint. thats it.
[19:48] <SysAdmin7> Any1 need help?
[19:48] <ubuntu_> ¡por favor!, ¿alg-un canal en español?
[19:48] <drozek123> systemadmin7 yes i do
[19:48] <bekks> !es | ubuntu_
[19:48] <Aeiortv> Today's the day I have to decide, I'm installing my new SSD - should I dual boot with windows 8.1 or single boot with just Ubuntu on my SSD?
[19:48] <Johnny_Linux> ubuntu
[19:48] <bekks> Aeiortv: Thats only up to you.
[19:48] <ubuntu_> thank you..
[19:49] <Johnny_Linux> ltd
[19:49] <Johnny_Linux> lts
[19:49] <drozek123> SysAdmin7: I do, I want to figure out how to remove video outputs from xrandr, it is causes issues with our application
[19:49] <Aeiortv> Johnny_Linux: 1404?
[19:49] <Johnny_Linux> yeah
[19:49] <designbybeck__> India has a bunch of stores selling Ubuntu Linux machines correct? http://economictimes.indiatimes.com/tech/internet/india-doubles-down-on-use-of-open-source-software/articleshow/46738604.cms
[19:49] <ObrienDave> CptRageToaster, Ubuntu repos, yes. Debian, no
[19:49] <SysAdmin7> Wat do u need
[19:49] <Johnny_Linux> you have the latest with longevity
[19:49] <Aeiortv> will secure boot + UEFI prevent me from installing ubuntu?
[19:50] <drozek123> I need DP2 and HDMI2 to stop showing up on xrandr
[19:50] <drozek123> i need to disable it before it boots to ubuntu 14.04
[19:50] <ObrienDave> !uefi | Aeiortv
[19:50] <Aeiortv> thank you ObrienDave
[19:50] <CptRageToaster> ObrienDave: it's apparently an issue with fielding questions specifically about saucy repos...
[19:50] <CptRageToaster> I'll have to word my questions carefully in the future I guess
[19:50] <CptRageToaster> ./end
[19:51] <bekks> CptRageToaster: you have to use Ubuntu for getting Ubuntu support ;)
[19:52] <SysAdmin7> try --output --off
[19:52] <ObrienDave> CptRageToaster, http://old-releases.ubuntu.com/releases/
[19:53] <drozek123> i have it still shows up after a reboot
[19:58] <siminm> Does anyone know if there's a way to pause syslog from writing to disk?
[19:59] <bekks> siminm: Stop it, since the purpose of syslog is writing logs to disks.
[20:00] <siminm> bekks: I'm not sure what the systems would do if syslog is actually stopped
[20:00] <akkad> pkill -STOP syslog
[20:00] <IdleOne> siminm: nothing harmful except you won't have the logs written
[20:00] <bekks> siminm: Nothing. Besides not logging anymore.
[20:00] <siminm> oh awesome. scary but awesome. thanks
[20:03] <Superfly_> \server asylumnet.org
[20:05] <akkad> siminm: chattr -R +i /
[20:05] <akkad> should fix it
[20:06] <bekks> akkad: Erm, no?
[20:06] <bekks> siminm: Dont run that command.
[20:06] <siminm> bekks: :)
[20:06] <zerowaitstate> akkad: oh wow no
[20:07] <siminm> I run everything people tell me
[20:07] <bekks> siminm: Hopefully you dont.
[20:07] <might_get_loud> Well that's sad.
[20:07] <akkad> secure mode
[20:07] <zerowaitstate> that's almost as bad as "rpm -qa | xargs rpm -e", something I have unfortunately done
[20:08] <akkad> why not just wipe the rpm db
[20:08] <bekks> akkad: Thats totally unrelated to his question.
[20:08] <bekks> akkad: Can you please refrain from the unrelated offtopic?
[20:10] <siminm> I just tested stopping /etc/init.d/syslog-ng and it works great. Logs stop, but services work fine
[20:11] <akiaki> Hey all. I tried installing windows, and I deleted an old ext4 partition at the beginning of my device. It told me after "no cigar" and when I rebooted, my other ext4 partition now appears as "unallocated space" in sda2
[20:11] <akiaki> how do I recover my ext4 partition?
[20:11] <MonkeyDust> !recover
[20:11] <zerowaitstate> siminm: for a better long term solution I recommend modifying the logrotate.d/rsyslog to include a maximum log size that triggers rotation. That would prevent the disk from filling up in an error situation
[20:12] <argha__> my skype is not working what do i do?
[20:12] <argha__> I am unable to login to skype
[20:12] <argha__> can anybody help me?
[20:13] <argha__> ho do i fix it
[20:13] <siminm> zerowaitstate: thanks; filesize wasn't the problem. I was debugging too frequent writes to hdd
[20:13] <might_get_loud> @argha__ is that the first time installing skype?
[20:13] <might_get_loud> or did you had problems earlier?
[20:13] <argha__> yes
[20:13] <messiahone> hi
[20:14] <argha__> this is the fierst time
[20:14] <argha__> **first
[20:14] <might_get_loud> how did you installed skype?
[20:14] <UNNGH> hi
[20:14] <zerowaitstate> siminm: you can also use the conf file for your syslog daemon to direct particular event sources to console or dev/null
[20:14] <might_get_loud> via apt-get or downloaded .deb?
[20:14] <UNNGH> hi there, how do i get my name yellow?
[20:14] <k1l_> create an account on skype first?
[20:14] <siminm> zerowaitstate: oh! useful. I'll read up on that
[20:14] <argha__> install from terminal
[20:14] <argha__> everything coming well in my screen
[20:15] <argha__> but i am only unable to log in
[20:15] <zerowaitstate> siminm: yeah, that's dependent on your particular syslog daemon implementation; it's not something you control from logrotate
[20:15] <argha__> after browsing for sometimes it has stopped working
[20:16] <argha__> might can you tell me how di i fix it?
[20:16] <might_get_loud> Actully no, i thought it was deb install
[20:17] <argha__> no.skkype has been installed in my desktop
[20:17] <might_get_loud> Becouse installing via debs wont install libs that you need, just raw skype file.
[20:17] <argha__> but it unablle to log in
[20:17] <might_get_loud> because*
[20:17] <argha__> is it issue with skype version?
[20:18] <argha__> yes
[20:18] <might_get_loud> I dont think so, because if you installed it via terminal it automaticly install the latest version
[20:18] <argha__> actually if it not installed properly then the login window will not come i think so
[20:18] <argha__> might
[20:18] <might_get_loud> but you could anyway try update and upgrade
[20:18] <might_get_loud> I had problems before with kind of same thing
[20:19] <argha__> how ?
[20:19] <might_get_loud> logins screen pops but i was unable to login for like 2 h
[20:19] <argha__> skype version is 4.3.0.37
[20:19] <might_get_loud> sec pls
[20:19] <argha__> ya the sam thing i am also facing
[20:19] <argha__> hw do i fix it?
[20:20] <argha__> have any idea?
[20:20] <might_get_loud> Yeah, my 4.3.0.37 works
[20:20] <might_get_loud> IDK
[20:20] <might_get_loud> sure that your password is ok? :D
[20:20] <might_get_loud> idk sorry dude
[20:20] <argha__> yup
[20:20] <might_get_loud> hope you find answer somewhere else
[20:20] <argha__> i am logginn in from my phone
[20:20] <argha__> and it's working
[20:21] <CptRageToaster> argha__: I'm assuming your pc is connected to the internet?
[20:21] <CptRageToaster> (still?)
[20:21] <argha__> yes it's connected with internet
[20:22] <CptRageToaster> that's pretty weird...
[20:22] <CptRageToaster> I wonder if opening skype at the terminal, would display the errors it has
[20:22] <CptRageToaster> then, you could login, and see the console chatter
[20:22] <argha__> when i signing in it's window continuously popping up
[20:23] <argha__> but after sometimes it has been again comes to it's preliminary state
[20:25] <argha__> oh my god after a long time it's ultimately logging in
[20:25] <argha__> than you cp and might for ur kind cooperation
[20:25] <OerHeks> call me maybe :-P
[20:26] <CptRageToaster> you may want to run skype from the command line, if that long-loggin time continues :)
[20:26] <CptRageToaster> login*
[20:26] <Traintop> Hi Folks! -I have a Thinkpad X61T and a script to rotate the screen and would like to bind it to the dedicated button on the tablet, but ubuntu will always activate the screensaver even if I add a custum key-binding to my script.... -any ideas where I could "delete" this binding to the screensaver?
[20:27] <mchelen1> #ubuntu-touch maybe?
[20:27] <mchelen1> i'm not sure which shortcut system its using
[20:28] <mchelen1> Traintop, did you check keyboard settings/shortcuts?
[20:28] <argha__> how do login in skype from terminal?
[20:29] <argha__> how do i log in into skype?
[20:29] <argha__> from command line
[20:29] <argha__> cptrage
[20:29] <CptRageToaster> argha__: You shouldn't have to
[20:29] <CptRageToaster> you should be able to START skype from the terminal
[20:29] <CptRageToaster> skype will then open it's window normally
[20:29] <argha__> what is the command
[20:29] <CptRageToaster> but, you'll have a log
[20:29] <CptRageToaster> oh... I wouldn't know actually
[20:30] <CptRageToaster> have you tried typing
[20:30] <CptRageToaster> skype
[20:30] <CptRageToaster> and then hitting tab?
[20:30] <CptRageToaster> it might be as simple as saying "skype" in your terminal
[20:30] <argha__> i m trying wait a min
[20:30] <OerHeks> skype &
[20:31] <argha__> ya skype windows coming is comng
[20:31] <CptRageToaster> OerHeks: No need to send it to the background if you want the log...
[20:31] <CptRageToaster> right?
[20:31] <argha__> but if i want to login from the terminal then
[20:31] <argha__> what is t command?
[20:32] <CptRageToaster> argha__: eee... that's...
[20:32] <CptRageToaster> that may not be possible
[20:32] <CptRageToaster> not sure...
[20:32] <argha__> ok
[20:32] <CptRageToaster> skype MIGHT support some command line arguments
[20:32] <CptRageToaster> I'm going to google, and see if I can come up with anything
[20:33] <argha__> ok
[20:33] <CptRageToaster> argha__: There are some places for it
[20:33] <SchrodingersScat> argha__: have you tried skype --help ?
[20:33] <argha__> what r those?
[20:34] <SysAdmin7> Did dzorek say the command worked?
[20:34] <SchrodingersScat> argha__: seems you can even initiate a call with the cli, didn't know that.
[20:34] <CptRageToaster> yeah... that's pretty nifty...
[20:34] <argha__> no
[20:34] <argha__> i type skype help but
[20:34] <CptRageToaster> argha__: with the dashes? (--)
[20:34] <argha__> there has no option for loggin in
[20:35] <lotuspsychje> SysAdmin7: <drozek123> i have it still shows up after a reboot
[20:35] <CptRageToaster> argha__: This stackoverflow looks like it answers your question: http://askubuntu.com/questions/350072/how-to-log-in-to-skype-via-command-line
[20:35] <SchrodingersScat> argha__: skype --help will show --pipelogin, which might be what you want.
[20:35] <CptRageToaster> specifically the --pipelogin
[20:36] <CptRageToaster> $ echo username password | skype --pipelogin
[20:36] <SysAdmin7> Oh, hmm
[20:36] <CptRageToaster> yeah
[20:36] <CptRageToaster> not amazing...
[20:36] <CptRageToaster> not very secure...
[20:36] <CptRageToaster> but it works
[20:37] <SysAdmin7> Let me think
[20:37] <bekks> Why not just login in via the skype gui?
[20:37] <SchrodingersScat> harder to script the skype gui to login to various accounts, run actions, logout or open new instances
[20:38] <CptRageToaster> ^
[20:38] <bekks> Sounds like skype spamming :)
[20:44] <Traintop> mchelen1: yes, this is my problem; I added a new "custom" keybinding there with no erorrs, but still the button works as the screensaver-button
[20:45] <SysAdmin7> ok, I'm back. Is dzorek on?
[20:45] <lotuspsychje> !tab | SysAdmin7
[20:45] <mchelen1> Traintop, do you see any other shortcuts that use the same keys?
[20:45] <mchelen1> Traintop, maybe install compizconfig
[20:46] <SysAdmin7> Oh, thx. Usin a hacked blackberry
[20:47] <Traintop> mchelen1: no, I see no other keybinding in the default gui
[20:47] <mchelen1> Traintop, ah ok there you gi
[20:47] <Traintop> mchelen1: so I thought this could be somewhere in the startup-scripts
[20:47] <mchelen1> *go
[20:48] <Traintop> sorry, had to go afk...
[20:48] <Traintop> mchelen1: I'm just trying compizconfig
[20:49] <mchelen1> Traintop, ok, im wondering if one of the compiz actions is using the same key combo
[20:50] <Traintop> compiz-keybindings are not activated
[20:50] <Traintop> should I do so?
[20:50] <Traintop> I think no... -as I am wondering where this "screensaver-button" binding comes from...
[20:51] <Es0teric> anyone here know about apache?
[20:51] <Traintop> if it's of interest: the same problem goes with all the tablet-buttons: the onscreen-keyboard-button is used as "toggle touchpad on/off"
[20:51] <Traintop> and I cannot override with the default gui
[20:52] <Traintop> that's why I asked here; I think this iś defined somewhere in config-files... -but I don't know where
[20:52] <Traintop> even "grep"ed for it, but to no avail...
[20:53] <Traintop> mchelen1: do you think the compiz-keybinding have higher priority; perhaps trying to bind the script there?
[20:54] <argha__> how do i logging in skype from terminal?
[20:55] <argha__> can anybody tell me?
[20:55] <Traintop> argha__: CptRageRoaster told you a few pages ago
[20:55] <mchelen1> Traintop, idk about priority, but they could both be activated
[20:56] <mchelen1> Traintop, you might have more luck asking in #ubuntu-touch tho since i'm guessing thats the version you have
[20:56] <argha__> i have to only type echo argha abc | skype --pipelogin
[20:56] <argha__> or somthing else?
[20:56] <argha__> username and password for ex
[20:56] <bekks> "for ex"?
[20:56] <argha__> example
[20:57] <pyoor> hi all. I seem to be having a problem with my swap partition using an FDE on ubuntu 14.04. I get an error message stating that /dev/mapper/cryptswap1 is not ready or present. swapon -s reports no swap partition. I've tried reformatting and rebuilding the swap partition but no luck
[20:57] <Traintop> mchelen1: tested compiz: my script isn't started, but the notifier for the touchpadtoggle does not show anymore; will dig into this further; thanks man
[20:57] <mchelen1> Traintop, np good luck
[20:57] <pyoor> can anyone point me to a doc that describes the process when using LVM and full disk encryption?
[20:57] <Traintop> mchelen1: and I am using the normal ubuntu 12.04 I think there was no touch-variant at this time
[20:58] <mchelen1> Traintop, ah ok
[20:58] <bekks> pyoor: What is a "FDE"?
[20:58] <argha__> i write the above cmd but the only skype window coming
[20:58] <bekks> argha__: Which "above command"?
[20:58] <argha__> loggging in is not working by this command
[20:58] <argha__> yes
[20:58] <Traintop> argha__: I cannot verify what CptRageRoaster said as I have no skype; but what CptRage... wrote seems intuitivly
[20:58] <OerHeks> why would one need terminal login for a gui programm like skype..
[20:59] <zykotick9> bekks: FDE = Full Disk Encryption
[20:59] <k1l_> argha__: just use the skype gui
[20:59] <argha__> ok
[21:00] <Traintop> mchelen1: but thanks for the hint to #ubuntu-touch; will go there and try if someone there had the same problem and an elegant solution :-)
[21:00] <argha__> ya gui is working but i want to log in from termianl
[21:00] <k1l_> argha__: then take the time and read the documentation. users in here explained it already to you. if you want to know more read the skype docs
[21:02] <mchelen1> Traintop, yah if you are running on a tablet it might be worth investigating
[21:02] <mchelen1> Traintop, or consider upgrading to 14.04
[21:03] <Traintop> mchelen1: this is an [email protected]; and as 12.04 works I do not want to change to a newer system with more background-daemons... ;->
[21:04] <Traintop> mchelen1: except for these 3 buttons everything else works like a charme :-)
[21:04] <bekks> Traintop: So disable all those "background daemons" if you dont like them. Whatever those may be.
[21:04] <MonkeyDust> how do I copy something to chroot?
[21:05] <mchelen1> Traintop, there might be better touchscreen support though, but if most things are working now then maybe dont mess with it
[21:05] <Traintop> mchelen1: that's what I think :-)
[21:06] <NGC3982> Hi. I use album today, and i notice that it does not seem to update itself when i add new pictures to it. Is this configurable? I can't seem to find anything regarding it in the manual.
[21:06] <mchelen1> Traintop, can always try a liveusb and see
[21:06] <Traintop> but to bring back another idea: even in coompizconfig when I "bind" the button to the script, compizconfig names the key "XFree86ToggleTouchpad" this has to come from somewhere... -any ideas?
[21:07] <mchelen1> Traintop, that just sounds like the system id for the button
[21:08] <Traintop> bekks: asides from trying to get this working in ubuntu I am in parallel building a linux-from-scratch so I know exactly where something is defined and configured... -but that's another story :-)
[21:09] <Traintop> mchelen1: do you eventually know where these are defined in ubuntu... -so I could look there for a solution?
[21:10] <mchelen1> Traintop, you can probably find the definition somewhere in the source code, but i don't think thats what you want
[21:10] <mchelen1> Traintop, the name doesn't matter except that its bound to some action somewhere
[21:11] <Traintop> mchelen1: no :-) -I rather thought of a file where these definitions are done while booting or so...
[21:11] <mchelen1> Traintop, those aren't necessarily text files
[21:11] <mchelen1> they can be compiled binaries
[21:11] <Traintop> what I think is funny, my laptop doesn't even have a touchpad, but ubuntu installs this keybinding even with notifier-icon and so on... :-)
[21:12] <mchelen1> Traintop, its possible the touchscreen itself is treated as a touchpad
[21:14] <Traintop> mchelen1: the "touchscreen" with the stylus is used as a wacom-graphics-tablet and the finger-touch is something in X (don't exactly know atm what it's called, but it's different to a touchpad
[21:14] <danny002> Hey what do you guys think of Ubuntu Mate?
[21:14] <PartNAS> is ubuntu cat8 ready?
[21:14] <gndlp> hey does anyone know what file cntrl alt L calls in Ubuntu 14.04
[21:15] <gndlp> or how to find that out
[21:15] <danny002> ctrl alt L locks you're pc as far as im aware unless I misread the question.
[21:18] <mchelen1> gndlp, settings -> keyboard -> shortcuts
[21:19] <NGC3982> Can i get Album to update pictures automaticly?
[21:19] <DaveMcAve> Hi, I just installed Ubuntu via the net install, when I boot grub is skipped completely and automatically boots into Ubuntu, giving me no choice at all to boot into the other paritions, what do I do?
[21:19] <bekks> DaveMcAve: Press esc or shift to get into the grub menu.
[21:20] <DaveMcAve> Oh okay
[21:20] <DaveMcAve> Thanks
[21:20] <Traintop> DaveMcAve: be aware of the perhaps small timeout...
[21:20] <zykotick9> DaveMcAve: HOLD shift after boot might be easiest direction...
[21:21] <mchelen1> DaveMcAve, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2#Boot_Display_Behavior
[21:26] <Eightynine> Hi guys. I'm using openSUSE and it fucked my brain, I hate it's update system. It works bad with Virtualbox(I never had so much problems with it before) and design is total crap. Can you please advice me what DE and FS to use with Ubuntu? Can I replace openSUSE with Ubuntu without formatting whole drive?
[21:26] <bekks> No.
[21:27] <Eightynine> No-I can't replase or you can't advice?
[21:27] <bekks> you cant replace it.
[21:27] <OerHeks> Eightynine, formatting takes seconds
[21:28] <bekks> Backups may take hours, before :)
[21:28] <Eightynine> But I'm using SSD isn't it bad to format it often?
[21:28] <Traintop> EightyNine: delete everthing on disc except /home/<youruser>; should work afaik
[21:29] <Traintop> EightyNine: and use a different default-user on the new system
[21:29] <bekks> Eightynine: Thats an urban legend.
[21:29] <OerHeks> Don't mix suse with ubuntu installation, clean install is the best way.
[21:30] <OerHeks> If you don't make a backup of your data, then that data is not important. this is generally for any system change.
[21:31] <Eightynine> I have 40 GB root, 3,86 GB swap, 67,92 GB home and 3 1,92 GB tmpfs volumes.
[21:31] <bekks> BAckup your data, and install Ubuntu cleanly.
[21:31] <Eightynine> Can I just format root?
[21:32] <bekks> Backup your data, destroy all partitions found, and install Ubuntu onto the disk.
[21:32] <PartNAS> i guess thats the point of having root partition
[21:33] <PartNAS> Eightynine: you forgot to make a backup partition
[21:33] <Eightynine> openSUSE made this partition layout.
[21:33] <bekks> PartNAS: BAckups on the same disk are pointless :)
[21:33] <bekks> Eightynine: So destroy and let Ubuntu make its own.
[21:33] <PartNAS> not in this case
[21:35] <PartNAS> is it possible to dualboot another distro on ubuntu phone?
[21:35] <Eightynine> Is this better to use Ubuntu with Unity or can I use it with Gnome and it'll be the same? I used Ubuntu a few years ago and I used Xubuntu(tried it) about a year ago), so I don't know if it's handy to use Unity and if Ubuntu Gnome is stable or not.
[21:35] <OerHeks> PartNAS, better ask in #ubuntu-touch
[21:36] <teward> Eightynine: Ubuntu GNOME has been out for a while and is 'stable' - Unity and GNOME both work, although I personally prefer Unity
[21:36] <isifreek> theres a piece of another window persistant on my screen thru lock/unlock and workspace change
[21:36] <isifreek> wtf
[21:36] <bekks> Eightynine: There is no "better" in terms of "your personal choice".
[21:36] <Eightynine> Why do you prefer Unity? Just asking.
[21:37] <isifreek> ya.. that's a head scratcher
[21:37] <bprompt_> Eightynine: I don't think folks "prefer" unity, so much as its the default flavor
[21:37] <Hell-Razor> Does anybody have any experience with mdadm? I created a raid0 on my machine and now would like to try and move my /home directory to it. Currently this is what I can come up with in my fstab http://nopaste.linux-dev.org/?452961
[21:37] <bprompt_> Eightynine: just like many Internet Explorer users "prefer" IE, over other browsers, lazyness maybe
[21:38] <Eightynine> I asked <teward>, he said that he prefer Unity.
[21:38] <bprompt_> Eightynine: I see, you may want to prefix your lines then :)
[21:38] <Eightynine> IE has a huge memory leak and interface is working bad.
[21:39] <Eightynine> Sorry, I don't know how to do this in HexChat.
[21:39] <bekks> Eightynine: Type it?
[21:39] <bekks> !tab | Eightynine
[21:39] <teward> Eightynine: but that's just an opinion there's no 'better' one
[21:39] <teward> Eightynine: GNOME is closer to Xubuntu, probably
[21:40] <OerHeks> !flavors
[21:40] <bprompt_> Eightynine: I prefer kde, and yes, I do prefer it, I've used on many other distributions as well, since I run many kde apps, also run gnome ones as well, since some gnome ones work better than the kde alternative
[21:41] <OerHeks> it is like 20 different brands of peanutbutter :-D
[21:41] <Eightynine> If only developers could rewrite Ubuntu tools on D instead of using Python, Ubuntu could become OS X in Linux world. If only I was a good programmer and not a beginner, I would helped you.
[21:42] <OerHeks> tools on D ?
[21:42] <Eightynine> KDE5 is better than KDE4(I mean it consumes less resources) but I don't like this monster.
[21:42] <Eightynine> Yes, Dlang. I tried to learn it.
[21:43] <Eightynine> Is there a big difference between Gnome and Unity?
[21:44] <Ben64> yes
[21:44] <Eightynine> I wonder which of them is more usable.
[21:44] <ShadowPony> does any one know how to fix this error http://i.imgur.com/n9ILUMY.png?1
[21:44] <OerHeks> Unity is just a compiz plugin on top of gnome3
[21:44] <Ben64> Eightynine: try them both and see
[21:45] <Ben64> ShadowPony: some more details are necessary
[21:46] <ShadowPony> Ben64 the issue is is we use SSH root and dusk can edit the files but not dragony
[21:46] <Ben64> ShadowPony: you shouldn't use ssh root, no idea what dusk and dragony are
[21:46] <ShadowPony> users
[21:46] <Eightynine> I think tomorrow I'll download and install Ubuntu Gnome. Guys, sorry if I'm wrong but I think that tools like Drivers and Software Centre need a good optimisation. They start really slow and long. Maybe you fixed them already.
[21:46] <ShadowPony> dusk and dragony are users
[21:46] <ShadowPony> root is disabled for sshs and everthing
[21:47] <bprompt_> ShadowPony: maneframe? sounds "hairy", is that a typo maybe? did you mean "mainframe"?
[21:47] <ShadowPony> bprompt_: no that was intentical
[21:47] <ShadowPony> Ben64: dusk can edit the files but not dragony
[21:48] <Ben64> ok... so what are the permissions on the file
[21:48] <ShadowPony> 777
[21:48] <bprompt_> ShadowPony: hmmmm sounds like a chown matter though... I'd think you could get around by setting the file to "755" or just a+x
[21:48] <Ben64> sounds like a bad idea
[21:48] <Eightynine> Good luck guys. Thanks for help.
[21:48] <ShadowPony> bprompt_: why set it to 755
[21:49] <bprompt_> ShadowPony: to make it a+x pretty much
[21:49] <ShadowPony> bprompt_: they are 755
[21:50] <Eightynine> Is your site ubuntu.com? Sorry for stupid question.
[21:50] <ShadowPony> bprompt_: alright dusk owns the dir but not dragony
[21:50] <Ben64> Eightynine: sure, you can get ubuntu there
[21:50] <Eightynine> Thanks.
[21:53] <bprompt_> Eightynine: hmmm I use kde 4.8.5, haven't checked kde5 yet, just kde 4.13, as far as size, it depends on features, kde can be fancy schmanzy
[21:56] <huig> i am reading things about udev, but i don't know if the article is up to date or not. is currently udev the "way" that ubuntu uses to handle /dev directories?
[21:57] <bekks> huig: Yes.
[22:00] <ramen69> ShadowPony are those users within the correct permissions groups?
[22:03] <tj83> I'm loading "flight gear" from the repository. I see that it appears to me single thread application ? its only making use of one cpu core. anything I can do to split the load up?
[22:03] <tj83> it has one core pegged at 100% and not even hopping cores. just stuck on CPU1
[22:04] <tj83> ++++ttttt----------+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
[22:05] <ObrienDave> d/l source and recompile
[22:06] <bekks> and patch source before recompiling.
[22:08] <nrml1> so one of my users did a apt-get dist-upgrade on a VM and now its in a Kernel Panic, anyone experience this before?
[22:09] * zykotick9 wonders why a user has the right to apt-get anything...
[22:09] <nrml1> decisions made by people with far more arse kissing skills than I
[22:10] <Jordan_U> tj83: There is no way to make a single threaded application usefully use multiple cores other than modifying the source code to no longer be single threaded. That said, I have no idea whether or not flight gear is indeed single threaded. Try joining #flightgear, explain your symptoms, and ask if there is a way to make flightgear run better for you.
[22:10] <OerHeks> i think flightgear 3 uses multicore/gpu .. http://wiki.flightgear.org/Howto:Activate_multi_core_and_multi_GPU_support
[22:11] <Jordan_U> nrml1: Why were they running "apt-get dist-upgrade" rather than "apt-get upgrade"? What new packages were installed or removed?
[22:11] <nrml1> cause they're dumb... that was their quote by the way
[22:11] <nrml1> he said he did apt-get update ; apt-get upgrade then apt-get dist-upgrade
[22:12] <Jordan_U> nrml1: What is the exact error that they see when they try to boot?
[22:12] <nrml1> not sure if it matters but these were 10.04 systems I
[22:13] <k1l_> nrml1: might have changed the kernel
[22:13] <nrml1> k1l_, thats what I'm thinking
[22:13] <k1l_> nrml1: 10.04 goes end of life at the end of april anyway. so you might want to make a new setup :)
[22:13] <nrml1> Jordan_U, Kernel panic - not sysncing: VFS: Unable to mount root fs on unknown-block(0,0)
[22:13] <Guest21477> Hey, I recently updated from 13.10 to 14.04 and whenever I boot now I'm brought to the grub> prompt, was hoping someone could help me
[22:14] <OerHeks> If those VM's contain a desktop, i bet it is an upgrade notice
[22:14] <nrml1> k1l_, I know but I need to get him off my back if I could just fix it
[22:14] <Jordan_U> !bootinfo | Guest21477
[22:15] <Guest21477> I'll do that now.
[22:15] <OerHeks> Guest21477, press ctrl alt F7 ( do you see a screen now?)
[22:16] <Jordan_U> nrml1: Putting it another way, if you simply install Ubuntu 14.04 for them now you will solve their current problem *and* the problem they're going to have in one month.
[22:17] <nrml1> Jordan_U, its more complicated than that though.. the environment cant support 14.04 right now (I'm working on centralizing this right now)
[22:17] <DarkAceZ> can I use ecryptfs to encrypt only a certain directory?
[22:17] <nrml1> I'm working on getting a more automated system in place where if they do this again I can blow this one away and then spawn a new one
[22:17] <nrml1> right now its manual :(
[22:20] <Guest21477> I swear booting from my DVD drive is the slowest thing ever
[22:20] <nrml1> from my research people say editing grub may fix it, but its a PITA booting a livecd
[22:21] <Jordan_U> nrml1: You can select an older kernel from the grub menu at boot.
[22:21] <bekks> nrml1: Insert the CD, wait, done?
[22:22] <nrml1> its a VM on an ESXi host
[22:22] <bekks> Attach the ISO to the VM, boot, done?
[22:22] <nrml1> been doing that for like an hour, it wont boot for some reason :/
[22:23] <Jordan_U> nrml1: Can you access the grub menu at boot?
[22:23] <nrml1> nope
[22:23] <Jordan_U> nrml1: Why not?
[22:23] <lmat> I'm looking at https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/cdrkit/+bug/135362 and experiencing the bug myself.
[22:23] <nrml1> kernel panic
[22:24] <lmat> "and as genisoimage is just
[22:24] <lmat> a very old version of mkisofs, it suffers from the problem."
[22:24] <lmat> I guess nothing's changed here? :-( In short, I'm trying to create an iso from part of my filesystem, but there are "deep" directories.
[22:25] <ObrienDave> the problen is the rock ridge standard. 255 characters in path max
[22:26] <Jordan_U> lmat: You are not hitting that exact bug, so please explain what you are doing (including exact commands) and what happens (all output), using http://pastebin.ubuntu.com as needed for output longer than one line.
[22:26] <lmat> and as genisoimage is just
[22:26] <lmat> sorry
[22:26] <Jordan_U> nrml1: I asked why you can't access the grub menu. The grub menu comes before any kernel can be loaded and panic.
[22:27] <lmat> http://sprunge.us/fIaO
[22:27] <lmat> To get that, I ran genisoimage -o jmmdrive.iso /mnt/flash/ 2>&1 | head -n 50
[22:27] <nrml1> Jordan_U, I dunno bro, the vmware splash comes on and then the kernel panic, too quick
[22:27] <Guest21477> Jordan_U: here are the results of the script pastebin.com/NhvMgkNg
[22:28] <lmat> Jordan_U: i'm thinking -D is the ticket...
[22:28] <Jordan_U> nrml1: Try holding shift during boot (you'll have to be sure that the VM window has keyboard focus early enough).
[22:29] <Jordan_U> lmat: Seems like it.
[22:29] <nrml1> doesnt help that my desktop is like inception for windows.. I Got a vm of a windows vm of a windows os
[22:29] <Wulf> Hi
[22:29] <ashvin> hello world
[22:30] <Jordan_U> Guest21477: Please pastebin the output of "sudo mount /dev/sda1 /mnt/ && find /mnt/".
[22:30] <nrml1> trying to boot from "Rescue" now.. whatever that is.
[22:30] <Wulf> I'm using getaddrinfo() to resolve a host. There are two IPs for it for dns round robin load balancing. On my debian system this works, on my ubuntu-14.04 system the result is always ordered. Is there any option I missed?
[22:31] <ponyofdeath> hi, anyone know if there is a way to mark a sas card's drive to light us as failed on the chassis? is there some kind of command that would tell the sas controller to illuminate the failed led?
[22:32] <Guest21477> Jordan_U: pastebin.com/zF78NKkE
[22:33] <Jordan_U> Guest21477: Please pastebin the contents of /mnt/grub/grub.cfg (you can do so by running "pastebinit /mnt/grub/grub.cfg" ).
[22:34] <ramen69> ponyofdeath: ive never done that but you can use smartmontools to email you the output when a disc fails
[22:35] <ponyofdeath> ramen69: yeah i know about that, just need to be able to tell which drive from the outside of the server :)
[22:38] <gndlp> ramen69: hey ramen do you know how to enable SMART support on a device with smartctl?
[22:38] <gndlp> ramen69: on all devices i mean
[22:39] <bekks> gndlp: Either the drive supports SMART or it doesnt. You cannot enable/disable it.
[22:39] <ramen69> ^
[22:39] <Guest21477> Jordan_U: "unable to read from: grub.cfg"
[22:40] <Guest21477> Jordan_U: the file exists but appears to be blank when I navigate to it
[22:40] <huig> udev rules are in /etc/udev/rules.d or in /lib/udev/rules.d? from what i reading is seems that they have to be in /etc/udev/rules.d but i don't find any file with rules
[22:40] <Jordan_U> Guest21477: Well, whatever is preventing linux from reading the grub.cfg right now is probably the same thing preventing grub from reading it at boot.
[22:41] <Jordan_U> Guest21477: Please pastebin the output of "dmesg". You may have filesystem corruption, which an fsck might fix.
[22:41] <ramen69> ponyofdeath: aite, i seen a blogpost some guy lit up his hdd led doing some haxy method a while ago but im real sorry i forgot where i saw it :(
[22:42] <Jordan_U> Guest21477: Though, as a simple test, please pastebin the exact output of "sudo cat /mnt/grub/grub.cfg".
[22:42] <gndlp> bekks: Well if the drive supports it and you install smartmontools by default it monitors nothing until you trigger it with the -s flag but I need to deploy it to some file servers and I dont want to have to enable it on every drive on every machine
[22:42] <ponyofdeath> ramen69: thanks
[22:43] <bekks> gndlp: Run it once fpr every drive.
[22:43] <bekks> gndlp: Thats easily scriptable.
[22:44] <gndlp> bekks: yeah dumb question now that i think about it
[22:45] <Guest21477> Jordan_U: "cat: /mnt/grub/grub.cfg: Input/output error"
[22:45] <nrml1> so I got it to boot
[22:45] <nrml1> lemme check what else he did and didnt mention
[22:46] <Jordan_U> Guest21477: That's almost certainly either hardware failure or filesystem corruption (which may have been caused by hardware failure).
[22:46] <Jordan_U> Guest21477: I hope that you have all of the important data from your encrypted root filesystem backed up.
[22:46] <Guest21477> Jordan_U: output of dmsg - pastebin.com/Yg3SHdzH
[22:47] <Guest21477> Jordan_U: it is a brand new installation
[22:48] <nrml1> anyone know off-hand what the latest kernel is for 10.04?
[22:48] <Guest21477> Jordan_U: 13.10 was giving me problems in regards to my graphics card, and after upgrading to 14.04 grub ceased to work after the first restart
[22:50] <Jordan_U> Guest21477: I need to leave now, but have someone walk you through checking the drive's S.M.A.R.T. status. Iff it shows that the drive is not failing, then have someone walk you through running fsck on /dev/sda1. The fsck might end up fixing the filesystem by deleting /boot/grub/grub.cfg, in which case you'll need to recreate it. But it's also possible that running fsck alone will fix everything and you will be able to ...
[22:50] <Jordan_U> ... boot again.
[22:50] <Guest21477> Jordan_U: okay, thanks
[22:50] <Jordan_U> Guest21477: You're welcome. Good luck.
[22:51] <k1l> !info linux-image-generic lucid
[22:52] <nrml1> yeah thats what broke it
[22:52] <nrml1> he's trying to boot that one and it kernel panics
[22:52] <nrml1> I just booted into the previous one
[22:54] <guri> ola...
[22:55] <Guest21477> How do I mount an encrypted install?
[22:55] <blackflow> Guest21477: luks?
[22:56] <guri> algum brasileiro
[22:56] <nrml1> would a sudo update-grub do the trick?
[22:56] <k1l> !br | guri
[22:56] <Guest21477> blackflow: yes
[22:57] <blackflow> Guest21477: use cryptsetup with luksOpen command to create a block device, then you mount that block device
[22:57] <OerHeks> Guest21477, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EncryptedPrivateDirectory#Live_CD_method_of_opening_a_encrypted_home_directory
[22:58] <guri> /join #lforce
[23:00] <guri> /join #lforce
[23:02] <Guest21477> blackflow: it says that it's already mapped or mounted?
[23:02] <blackflow> Guest21477: then mount it, the block device is /dev/mapper/<something>
[23:04] <Guest21477> blackflow: ah, I see.
[23:07] <Guest21477> blackflow: mount: unknown file system type 'LVM2_member'
[23:07] <blackflow> Guest21477: it's lvm on luks, so you need to activate lvm then
[23:10] <Guest21477> blackflow: how does one go about that?
[23:11] <blackflow> Guest21477: by using vgchange command to -a(ctivate) the volume group. see vgchange man. and if you don't know the name of the volume group, vgscan would scan your physical volumes and name them
[23:16] <r0x> why archlinux is so popular here?
[23:16] <blackflow> where?
[23:16] <r0x> freenode
[23:17] <Guest21477> Probably because it's a much more vanilla version of Linux that's very adaptable and lightweight?
[23:17] <teward> !offtopic | r0x
[23:19] <Felishia> can you recommend me a simple lightweight text reader, gui based...
[23:19] <EriC^^> Felishia: leafpad is pretty lightweight
[23:20] <Felishia> it's a file that can be 600000 characters long
[23:20] <Felishia> per line
[23:20] <Felishia> I'd use nano, but I don't know how to copy and paste a line from one file to another
[23:23] <Guest21477> Just right click and hit "copy" in the console after making the selection Felishia?
[23:24] <Felishia> doesn't work, I get just some characters and a $ symbol at the end
[23:24] <Felishia> and ctrl+k (and I don't even know how I'm supposed to paste that) don't work between nano instances
[23:24] <r0x> Do you know if exist a real-time version of ubuntu?
[23:25] <teward> r0x: 'real time' version?
[23:25] <EriC^^> Felishia: ctrl+shift+v to paste
[23:25] <Guest21477> Ah, perhaps ALT-6 to copy and CTRL-U to paste?
[23:25] <daveomcd> when im in a folder does * represent the entire contents of the folder im in? or is there a case where it means everything on the drive?
[23:26] <r0x> teward: yes
[23:26] <r0x> rtos
[23:26] <Felishia> EriC^^, will it work across nano instances?
[23:26] <EriC^^> Felishia: yeah
[23:26] <Felishia> :o
[23:27] <OerHeks> daveomcd, folder, when you use /* then you use whole root folder, ~/* whole home folder
[23:28] <OerHeks> just the * is in current folder.
[23:28] <Broadway26> Spooky, you here?
[23:29] <daveomcd> OerHeks, thanks!
[23:35] <Guest17456> bob
[23:35] <Guest17456> bob
[23:37] <Guest17456> was looking for a linux IM client for facebook, cant find one pidgin doesnt work
[23:38] <hkrrsx> Guest17456: Pidgin and Facebook instant messaging work fine for me ....
[23:38] <hkrrsx> http://www.ehow.com/how_8149016_facebook-pidgin.html
[23:38] <Guest17456> really, interesting
[23:38] <hkrrsx> Just logged in to double check
[23:39] <Guest17456> whats the resource set at?
[23:39] <Guest17456> mine is blank
[23:39] <hkrrsx> You could probably leave it blank
[23:40] <hkrrsx> Or set it to "Facebook"
[23:40] <Guest17456> it wants to connect through msn
[23:40] <Guest17456> rather then facebook thats the problem I have
[23:40] <hkrrsx> Change the connection type from MSN to XMPP
[23:40] <Guest17456> and since msn and facebook parted ways thats not happening
[23:41] <Guest17456> ok let me DO that
[23:41] <Guest17456> its greyed out wont let me modify
[23:42] <hkrrsx> Disable the account, first
[23:42] <hkrrsx> Then modify
[23:42] <Guest17456> proticol is on xmpp anyway
[23:42] <hkrrsx> You can't modify an active account
[23:42] <hkrrsx> active = enabled
[23:42] <Guest17456> username is email adress yes?
[23:43] <hkrrsx> Username is the first part of your email address
[23:43] <hkrrsx> Everything before the @ symbol
[23:43] <hkrrsx> [email protected] .... leave off the @facebook.com part and that's your username
[23:43] <Guest17456> ok yes, thats correct thank you
[23:55] <worldweirdthree> hello
[23:55] <worldweirdthree> still trying out some stuff
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2015-04-01-#ubuntu-quality
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[07:34] <elfy> flexiondotorg: any reason that Mate appears to not have the upstart option in grub advanced?
[08:49] <oSoMoN> om26er, hey, when do you think you’ll get to validating silo 9 ? I’m eager to get it landed today if possible
[08:52] <om26er> oSoMoN, I'll land it today, promise.
[08:53] <oSoMoN> cheers
[08:56] <Mirv> ubuntu-qa: could you schedule some time to code review the combo https://code.launchpad.net/~aacid/autopilot/dbus_search_no_seen_connections/+merge/254109 + https://code.launchpad.net/~timo-jyrinki/autopilot/ap1.5_dbus_search_no_seen_connections/+merge/254200 (same change, different branch) so that we could approach landing the silo it's currently included at?
[08:57] <Mirv> in other words, you don't need to land it since it's our silo, but a code review would be needed
[09:05] <rhuddie> Mirv, I've created a task to get this review done.
[09:06] <Mirv> rhuddie: thanks!
[09:10] <rhuddie> Mirv, is this silo 18?
[09:11] <Mirv> rhuddie: yes, although the silo has other things too
[09:12] <rhuddie> Mirv, that's fine. just wanted to make sure we have all the info.
[09:12] <Mirv> ok
[09:15] <flexiondotorg> elfy, Where is upstart referenced exactly?
[10:26] <pitti> brendand: something you mentioned yesterday made me think..
[10:26] <pitti> brendand: what exactly do you want to do with a local build on the phone and running tests with that?
[10:26] <pitti> brendand: (I think fixing that bug won't help with what you want to do, but let's hear your plan first)
[11:26] <hasgarion> Hello
[12:22] <brendand> pitti, we just wanted to use the modules provided by the package in the same way as other tests might use them, since the intention is that the python module provided by the binary package can be used by other test suites (not just the ones in the ubuntu-ota-tests package)
[12:23] <brendand> pitti, that's why we packaged the module in the first place as opposed to just putting it under debian/tests
[12:52] <pitti> brendand: ah, that's what I thought/feared
[12:53] <pitti> brendand: a locally built .deb can also just be unpacked into /tmp/ somewhere, so wrt. having (not) to set $PYTHONPATH that doesn't help you at all
[12:57] <elfy> flexiondotorg: what I'm saying (but haven't checked anymore than ubuntu, mate and ubuntu)is that mate does not appear to have upstart as an option in the advanced menu of grub,xubuntu and ubuntu do
[12:58] <flexiondotorg> elfy, Thanks for the heads up. What file do I need to inspect?
[12:58] <elfy> ?
[12:59] <elfy> no idea what makes upstart appear in grub as an option I'm afraid
[12:59] <elfy> at a guess I would suspect pitti would ;)
[13:00] <pitti> having upstart installed, for once :)
[13:00] <pitti> is it?
[13:00] <elfy> pitti: lol
[13:01] <pitti> the rest is in grub
[13:02] <elfy> flexiondotorg: that'll be it then - doesn't appear to be there :)
[13:04] <elfy> flexiondotorg: so - question is - will you be giving people that flexibility?
[13:06] <flexiondotorg> pitti, Should upstart be included in the Advanced GRUB menu? Is it optional and mandatory?
[13:06] <knome> sure it can't be both..:P
[13:07] <flexiondotorg> *optional or mandatory
[13:07] <elfy> flexiondotorg: I think that 'if' upstart is installed - then it WILL appear in the adv grub menu, upstart's not on your manifest
[13:08] <flexiondotorg> elfy, OK. I might include upstart for PowerPC because that arch is experiencing some issues.
[13:08] <flexiondotorg> pitti, What package should I include in order to make upstart an option, but not the default/
[13:09] <elfy> o/ knome
[13:10] <knome> hello elfy
[13:17] <pitti> flexiondotorg: "upstart"
[13:17] <pitti> flexiondotorg: upstart-sysv would be the default
[13:18] <flexiondotorg> pitti, Thanks.
[13:36] <gQuigs> wondering if it's possible to use apport-cli to report a bug to an arbitrary LP project (not an Ubuntu package) and attach an arbitrary file
[13:36] * gQuigs is looking to see if it might be useful for support
[16:43] <elfy> flexiondotorg: it's obviously nothing to do with me what you do - but what about people that might want to use upstart because systemd takes ages to boot, just would have thought it would be better to be in the same place as the rest of flavours
[19:04] <Letozaf_> balloons, hey
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2015-04-01-#ubuntu-cn
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[00:01] <^k^> 新 初学者园地 - 14.10 • win7下能否运行portable_ubuntu_remix http://forum.ubuntu.org.cn/viewtopic.php?t=469204 本人因工作需要使用portable_ubuntu，在portable_ubuntu_remix的介绍中，好像可以在WIN7下运行，但是自己测试了一下，不行啊，是因为64位系统的关系吗？而且现在WINXP确实很少了，现在笔记本都是WIN7或者
[00:01] <^k^> ─> WIN8，不知道各位大哥大姐能否帮忙解决下？？？？ zz: superkitten1986 — 2015-03-31 23:21
[01:15] <Guest76952> Lenovo S410电池只能充电到58%的类似问题 我也有，没解决
[01:16] <Guest76952> Lenovo的机器，linux下很多驱动貌似都不是支持的很好
[01:19] <^k^> 新 因特网相关软件 • ubuntu服务端安装了shadowsocks如何开启UDP转发呢 http://forum.ubuntu.org.cn/viewtopic.php?t=469206 运行了nohup ssserver -c /etc/shadowsocks/config.json > log & 并在/etc/rc.local中添加了/usr/local/bin/sslserver -c /etc/shadowsocks/config.json 成功开启了shadowsocks,但是发现UDP无效.那如何在ubuntu服务器端开启ud
[01:19] <^k^> ─> p呢? zz: nanshenliu — 2015-04-01 2:29
[01:49] <^k^> 新 内核及嵌入式开发 • ubuntu14.04 64bit PC 编译 2.6.32的内核(编译前配置成i386, 32bit)出错， 请求帮助 http://forum.ubuntu.org.cn/viewtopic.php?t=469207 我编译前把本机的gcc降低为gcc-4.4 $ll /usr/bin/gcc* lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 16 4月 1 00:34 /usr/bin/gcc -> /usr/bin/gcc-4.4* 编译的出错信息如下： CHK include/linux/version.h CHK i
[01:49] <^k^> ─> nclude/linux/utsrelease.h SYMLINK include/asm -> include/asm-x86 HOSTCC scripts/basic/fixdep HOSTCC scripts/bas …
[02:08] <happyaron> iMadper BuMangHuo 我被 HowIsItGoing 劝阻了
[02:08] <iMadper> happyaron: aha?
[02:08] <iMadper> happyaron: 为啥?
[02:09] <happyaron> iMadper BuMangHuo 他表示不能买杂牌碳架
[02:09] <iMadper> happyaron: 那就要买贵的了?~
[02:09] <happyaron> iMadper: 买个便宜的～
[02:10] <iMadper> happyaron: 跟 BuMangHuo 一样买公爵600
[02:11] <happyaron> iMadper: 推荐了OCR5500/5700 or TCRSLR2
[02:11] <^k^> 新 系统安装和升级 • ubuntu firefox 福字变绿色 http://forum.ubuntu.org.cn/viewtopic.php?t=469209 各位大侠， 在ubuntu下想翻墙，firefox已经安装了福字，只是它是红色的，如何让它变绿色，可以翻墙？ 浏览器最右边福字是红色的，想让它变绿色就可以了。 谢谢！ zz: yueli711 — 2015-04-01 10:10
[02:12] <iMadper> happyaron: TCRSLR2不便宜吧?
[02:12] <iMadper> happyaron: 8k?
[02:12] <happyaron> iMadper: 7.7好像
[02:12] <O0XX> iMadper: http://tech.sina.com.cn/it/2015-04-01/doc-iavxeafs3907513.shtml
[02:12] <iMadper> happyaron: 你这也叫买便宜的?
[02:12] <^k^> O0XX: ⇪ 百度愚人节恶搞：智能穿戴“百度珠环”|百度|愚人节_业界_新浪科技_新浪网
[02:12] <happyaron> iMadper: 我也没说要买那个啊
[02:13] <BuMangHuo> iMadper: 他买的额是公路
[02:13] <BuMangHuo> happyaron: 对 happyaron 来说太便宜了吧
[02:13] <BuMangHuo> cc iMadper
[02:13] <iMadper> O0XX: ... 入珠
[02:14] <happyaron> BuMangHuo: 黑我
[02:15] <BuMangHuo> happyaron: 为啥要公路不要山地呐
[02:15] <happyaron> BuMangHuo: 主要用途是刷圈啊
[02:19] <tryit> iMadper, happyaron BuMangHuo 今天会有一个1977年的大哥来面试……
[02:19] <happyaron> tryit: 拜高管，不是有特殊技能这样的一般要把简历放一边了吧。。。
[02:20] <iMadper> tryit: 拜高管
[02:20] <kandu> tryit: 拜高管
[02:20] <tryit> 我只负责对筛选出来的进行第一轮技术面试……
[02:21] <tryit> 感觉好奇怪啊
[02:21] <O0XX> tryit: 拜高管
[02:25] <iMadper> O0XX: 喝咖啡去不? 半价
[02:26] <O0XX> iMadper: zou
[02:26] * tryit C代码有啥重构的方法、工具、书籍 推荐？ cc iMadper O0XX kandu happyaron
[02:26] <iMadper> O0XX: 我看了半天来确认是 zou还是 zuo...
[02:26] <iMadper> tryit: c代码还要重构啊...
[02:27] <tryit> iMadper, 项目超过15年的历史了……
[02:28] <q_> --------- 消息队列 -----------
[02:28] <q_> 键 msqid 拥有者 权限 已用字节数 消息
[02:28] <q_> 0xffffffff 32768 q 600 340 61
[02:28] <q_> 请问这东西怎么删除啊？
[02:28] <q_> 我按照书上学写程序创建了一个IPC ，但是不知道怎么删除了。 － －
[02:30] <happyaron> 重启大法
[02:30] <q_> 我天。 － －－ －
[02:30] <q_> 有别的办法嘛？
[02:31] * BuMangHuo 喝了咖啡就心脏病发作....
[02:32] <q_> 把你的咖啡寄给我让我也心脏病发作一下 。
[02:35] <kandu> tryit: c 代码还想重构。。必先做好单元测试，整体测试。然后消除所有 warning . 消除所有为了消除 warning 而做的 type casting. 然后需一个对整体代码结构流程很熟悉的人进行开发中的独裁管理。修改的代码最好经过他人 review, 并且能讲清楚修改理由。代码逻辑。
[02:36] <kandu> tryit: 开发中我是反对单元测试的。 不过重构这种类型检查不强的代码，还是得用一用
[02:40] <iMadper> O0XX: JetBrains
[02:41] <^k^> 新 内核及嵌入式开发 • ubuntu14.04 64bit PC(gcc版本4.8)编译 2.6.32的内核(配置成i386, 32bit)出错 http://forum.ubuntu.org.cn/viewtopic.php?t=469210 编译前我把本机的gcc 还原为gcc-4.8 $ ll /usr/bin/gcc* lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 16 4月 1 18:05 /usr/bin/gcc -> /usr/bin/gcc-4.8* -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 255080 3月 20 2014 /usr/bin/gcc-4.4* -rwxr-xr-x 1
[02:41] <^k^> ─> root root 357344 3月 20 2014 /usr/bin/gcc-4.6* -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 775888 4月 5 2014 /usr/bin/gcc-4.8* lrw …
[02:42] <O0XX> iMadper: http://www.lagou.com/jobs/545556.html?source=search
[02:42] <^k^> ⇪ ti: 程序员鼓励师招聘-魅族招聘-拉勾网
[02:42] <tryit> kandu, 多谢
[02:43] <kandu> tryit: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_tools_for_static_code_analysis 好多工具都太贵
[02:43] <^k^> ⇪ ti: List of tools for static code analysis - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
[02:45] <tryit> kandu, en
[02:51] <onlylove_> http://www.zhihu.com/question/21377540
[02:51] <^k^> onlylove_: ⇪ 为什么 USB 键盘会有键冲而 PS2 的键盘能全键无冲？ - 硬件 - 知乎
[02:53] <O0XX> iMadper: 这个活不错啊..推荐你去
[02:53] <onlylove_> 原来USB的无冲都是模拟多把键盘……
[03:00] <iMadper> O0XX: ..
[03:05] <O0XX> iMadper: http://item.taobao.com/item.htm?id=37206539976&ali_refid=a3_420434_1006:1102851844:N:%E8%A1%97%E6%9C%BA%E6%B8%B8%E6%88%8F%E6%9C%BA:be145ca73459a0fc3fc62f148036f418&ali_trackid=1_be145ca73459a0fc3fc62f148036f418&spm=a230r.1.0.0.qeVxif
[03:05] <^k^> O0XX: ⇪ 正品吉童新款炮打僵尸弹珠机游戏机滚滚球儿童投币器游戏机-淘宝网 pp: 1150.00 - 1200.00
[03:05] <O0XX> iMadper: 这个这么贵啊!
[03:09] <iMadper> O0XX: ... ...
[03:09] <iMadper> O0XX: 你要买?
[03:15] <O0XX> iMadper: 太贵了..
[03:16] <O0XX> iMadper: 我觉得咱们真应该买个街机...
[03:16] <iMadper> O0XX: 不贵也没意思啊
[03:16] <iMadper> O0XX: 搞个linux游戏局域网玩啊
[03:16] <^k^> 取新帖 timeout
[03:22] <gfrog> iMadper: 球送咖啡啊。
[03:25] <iMadper> gfrog: 来啊
[03:25] <iMadper> gfrog: 现在你来就送
[03:25] <gfxmode_> gfrog: 咖啡共蟑螂一色
[03:27] <gfrog> iMadper: ……
[03:33] <O0XX> gfxmode_: ...
[03:34] <roylez> O0XX: 黑毛扎
[03:34] <O0XX> roylez: 扎西得嘞
[03:34] <gfrog> O0XX: iMadper 去年有笔报销没发给我…… 肿么办？
[03:34] <roylez> O0XX: 黑蚂蚱
[03:34] <jiero> iMadper: 杀。。。你们都有空玩游戏
[03:34] <O0XX> HowIsItGoing: 给payroll发信
[03:34] <O0XX> HowIsItGoing: 贴上 报销的连接
[03:35] <O0XX> HowIsItGoing: nancy只负责发钱...这种得找payroll
[03:35] * O0XX 说起来, 我还有笔报销呢
[03:35] <iMadper> HowIsItGoing: 骂payroll啊. 那帮人不会算账.
[03:35] <HowIsItGoing> O0XX: 还是你熟
[03:38] <HowIsItGoing> O0XX: payroll的list就是payroll@c?
[03:38] <O0XX> HowIsItGoing: 就是
[03:48] <^k^> 新 Ubuntu 12.04 LTS • 菜鸟解压压缩包遇到警告 http://forum.ubuntu.org.cn/viewtopic.php?t=469212 unzip解压压缩包遇到警告,求各路大神指导下这个警告是啥意思,有没有影响. Archive: /media/_Data/MedLine/zip/medline13n0267.xml.zip warning: skipped "../" path component(s) in ../zip/medline13n0267.xml inflating: /media/_Data/MedLine/zip/zip/medl
[03:48] <^k^> ─> ine13n0267.xml [size=150] [/size] zz: 逄小杰 — 2015-04-01 11:19
[03:49] <^k^> 新 内核及嵌入式开发 • 请问用x86 64bit PC编译32bit x86内核需要交叉编译工具吗 http://forum.ubuntu.org.cn/viewtopic.php?t=469213 请问用x86 64bit PC编译32bit x86内核需要交叉编译工具吗 zz: eagle7 — 2015-04-01 11:47
[03:51] <jiero> O0XX: 你们该买游戏机呀。
[03:51] <jiero> O0XX iMadper你们真有钱。
[03:51] <jiero> O0XX iMadper 要公司报销
[03:52] <jiero> windows下的firefox确实垃圾噢。。。
[03:57] <O0XX|Qiong> iMadper: fwall挂了?
[03:57] <iMadper> O0XX|Qiong: 啊? sg?
[03:59] <iMadper> O0XX|Qiong: 先用sg吧
[04:03] <O0XX|Qiong> iMadper: http://m.newsmth.net/article/QingHe/113730
[04:03] <^k^> O0XX|Qiong: ⇪ 水木社区手机版
[04:05] <O0XX|Qiong> iMadper: http://www.bj.10086.cn/service/promotion/2501/
[04:05] <^k^> O0XX|Qiong: ⇪ 1天1元，10M宽带用两年
[04:10] <jiero> O0XX|Qiong: 北京真便宜
[04:42] <roylez> ooOO_OOoo: 被砍了的蚯蚓
[04:42] <roylez> O0XX|Qiong: 蛤蟆精
[05:13] <^k^> 暂无新帖 讲个笑话吧: http://i2.xiaohua.fd.zol-img.com.cn/t_s600x5000/g3/M04/00/07/Cg-4V1I2nYGIJT5lAAFsfKVPfNYAALq7AEQCEwAAWyU592.jpg 坑爹的饲养员,你叫人家怎么吃嘛
[05:34] <O0XX|Qiong> iMadper: https://github.com/cyfdecyf/cow
[05:37] <roylez> O0XX|Qiong: 百度真废柴，下个firefox37半天没下完
[05:39] <QiongMangHuo> roylez: 附赠的百度杀毒安装包比较大
[05:40] <jusss> QiongMangHuo: 对头
[05:41] <jusss> 还有360安全卫士 扣扣电脑安全管家
[05:44] <onlylove> roylez: 去mozilla下，baidu那个是谋职版
[05:44] <jusss> hoxily: 昨晚跳了2个小时的手机，最终选出了zte v5s 华为畅玩4 红米2 这3个699配置还可以的手机，然后今天上午用了10分钟买了zte u705u 439人民币，
[05:45] <onlylove> QiongMangHuo: 键盘壕，是不是6键无冲的USB键盘，什么系统都可以用，那种全无冲的就限定windows了
[05:46] <gfxmode_> irssi怎么看一个nick上线多长时间？
[05:46] <BuMangHuo> QiongMangHuo: 早啊
[05:46] <BuMangHuo> iMadper: 来分享个 pac 啊 cc O0XX|Qiong onlylove
[05:46] <onlylove> BuMangHuo: pac是毛？
[05:46] <BuMangHuo> foxyproxy 的 pac
[05:47] <onlylove> BuMangHuo: 我是好孩子，不会上房
[05:47] <jusss> onlylove: 我昨晚花了2个小时选手机，今天上午10分钟买了个不是昨晚选出来的，是不是很怪
[05:47] <QiongMangHuo> BuMangHuo: 早啊
[05:47] <jusss> gfxmode_: whois
[05:47] <^k^> 新 初学者园地 - 14.10 • 如何只更新新添加的ppa http://forum.ubuntu.org.cn/viewtopic.php?t=469214 每次update都老半天，如何只更新新添加的ppa？谢谢！ zz: liupeng0518 — 2015-04-01 13:47
[05:47] <QiongMangHuo> onlylove: 应该是
[05:47] <QiongMangHuo> onlylove: 不过cherry最新的芯片也可以全无冲了
[05:48] <hoxily> jusss: 好用吗？
[05:48] <hoxily> jusss: 我不懂手机
[05:48] <jusss> hoxily: 不知道，上午刚定的货，明天到
[05:48] <gfxmode_> jusss: NICE
[05:48] <jusss> onlylove_: 我又买了个zte的手机。。。
[05:49] * jusss 低端货里，zte真是良心价
[05:49] <onlylove__> QiongMangHuo: 我掉了，你刚回答没，就是，6键无冲是usb协议决定的，cherry的芯片怎么个无冲
[05:50] <jusss> hoxily: 5.5寸 1200x900的分辨率 439人民币
[05:50] <gfxmode_> hoxily: whois信息里有你的手机号？
[05:50] <QiongMangHuo> onlylove__: 忘了它怎么搞的了, 反正做到了...
[05:50] <onlylove__> QiongMangHuo: 私有协议，驱动？
[05:51] <QiongMangHuo> onlylove__: 想起来了, 每个按键一个独立信号
[05:51] <hoxily> P: 手机是低端货； Q：手机是ZTE牌子； R：手机的价格是良心价。
[05:51] <onlylove__> 有空去鼎好看看……诶，
[05:51] <QiongMangHuo> onlylove__: 以前键盘是横竖坐标来确定按键的 (之类的意思
[05:51] <hoxily> P ^ Q -> R
[05:51] <onlylove__> QiongMangHuo: 108个信号……
[05:51] <hoxily> 是这样子吗？
[05:51] <QiongMangHuo> onlylove__: 再多说我就不懂了
[05:52] <jusss> 看不懂你的表达式
[05:52] <onlylove__> QiongMangHuo: 好吧，他能做到就好，不过我买不起cherry，最多看看3494
[05:52] <BuMangHuo> QiongMangHuo: 我现在有一个编译过的完整的kernel，有啥办法从这个基础上搞出一个类似 linux-headers 那样的包来，这样别人在编译自己的模块的时候就不需要下载完整的内核代码了，我现在只是手动删了 .c 之类的文件，不过应该可以比这个更少吧
[05:52] <onlylove__> jusss: 矩阵，矩阵表示键盘按键信号
[05:53] <onlylove__> jusss: 那样信号少很多，如果是每个按键一个，那就无所谓冲突了
[05:53] <hoxily> 这个命题的逆否命题怎么表达？
[05:54] <onlylove__> 自从地铁涨价，再不爱出门了……
[05:54] * onlylove__ 今天得鼓捣点东西糊弄项目经理……让他认为我在干活
[05:54] <jusss> onlylove__: 13号线真的慢的不行呀
[05:55] <BuMangHuo> 3494 不便宜吧
[05:55] <onlylove__> BuMangHuo: 890
[05:55] <onlylove__> jusss: 嗯，13号线我坐过的最慢的
[05:55] <BuMangHuo> 对啊
[05:55] <jusss> onlylove__: 从西直门到望京西竟然要50分钟左右
[05:55] <onlylove__> jusss: 傻
[05:56] <onlylove__> jusss: 先坐2到东直门，从东直门走
[05:56] <jusss> onlylove__: 后来我知道了2号线快
[05:56] <onlylove__> jusss: 2并不快，但是2距离短
[05:56] <hoxily> ¬R -> ¬ (P ^ Q)
[05:57] <jusss> 你这符号真看不懂，是中学数学上的符号？
[05:57] <onlylove__> BuMangHuo: 不过我没摸过，没啥发言权，但是我觉得3494应该还是值那个钱，毕竟原厂
[05:57] <jusss> 还是用计算机上的 and or not来表示检点点
[05:57] <hoxily> ¬R -> ¬P ∨ ¬Q
[05:58] <BuMangHuo> onlylove__: 昂
[05:58] <jusss> if not and or eq
[05:58] <onlylove__> 实验课小明突发酒瘾喝干所有酒精灯
[05:59] <hoxily> 用语言来表达就是：如果手机的价格不是良心价格，那么要不手机不是低端货，要么手机不是ZTE的牌子。
[05:59] <hoxily> 好绕
[06:00] <hoxily> jusss: http://zh.wikipedia.org/wiki/%E9%80%BB%E8%BE%91%E7%AC%A6%E5%8F%B7%E8%A1%A8
[06:00] <^k^> ⇪ ti: 逻辑符号表 - 维基百科，自由的百科全书
[06:01] <onlylove__> hoxily: 别黑ZTE了，我估计船都有可能比ZTE强
[06:07] <onlylove__> test
[06:07] <^k^> onlylove__:点点点. 14:07
[06:18] <jusss> onlylove__: zte真的不错了，我搜了下发现800以下都没有出虚拟键的，zte 499虚拟键手机带回家
[06:19] <onlylove__> jusss: 一分钱一分货
[06:21] <jusss> onlylove__: "如果格力出手机了，我一定买，格力，掌握核心科技，一晚流量只走1MB" -某推友
[06:22] <onlylove__> jusss: 流量一关，一个bit也别想走
[06:26] <lainme> 两天没有收到一封邮件，不正常啊
[06:28] <BuMangHuo> 靠，老板说这个月发奖金涨月钱的
[06:28] <jusss> lainme: 把邮箱发我，我天天骚扰你 :)
[06:28] <BuMangHuo> 居然忽悠我们
[06:28] <BuMangHuo> 马蛋，从去年9月拖到现在
[06:29] <iMadper> BuMangHuo: pac啊, 我也没有好用的pac文件. 那个, 有个自动学习并生成pac的工具, cow
[06:29] * BuMangHuo 决定从今天开始 5 点下班
[06:29] <onlylove> BuMangHuo: 你真天真
[06:29] <onlylove> lainme: 你去mailserver瞅一眼，看看它是不是宕机了
[06:30] <BuMangHuo> onlylove: 一开始他说发的时候，我是不信的
[06:30] <onlylove> BuMangHuo: 然后你怎么信了
[06:30] <BuMangHuo> onlylove: 关键后来他是在年会上当着所有人说的
[06:30] <iMadper> QiongMangHuo: emacs插件已经几乎完美了.
[06:30] <onlylove> BuMangHuo: 哦，那时候他喝多了
[06:30] <iMadper> QiongMangHuo: 你的vim版本快快快
[06:31] <lainme> onlylove: 意识到可能放春假了。学校各部门也不发垃圾邮件了
[06:31] <BuMangHuo> iMadper: https://github.com/cyfdecyf/cow ？
[06:31] <^k^> ⇪ ti: cyfdecyf/cow · GitHub
[06:31] <QiongMangHuo> iMadper: 明天演示给我看看..
[06:31] <iMadper> BuMangHuo: .
[06:31] <iMadper> QiongMangHuo: 何厚铧
[06:31] <jusss> lainme: 春假是什么?
[06:32] <onlylove> jusss: 假期的一种
[06:32] <iMadper> jusss: 类似寒假/暑假
[06:33] <jusss> 你们都好博学
[06:34] <jusss> 我还zhen 没放过春假
[06:34] <kandu> 有没有秋假?
[06:35] <jusss> onlylove: 我的fcitx坏了，打zhen这个字打到zhe就自动出这都不用空格，没法打zhen这个字
[06:35] <jusss> happyaron: fcitx出问题了
[06:35] <kandu> jusss: 切双拼
[06:35] <jusss> kandu: 我用的是pinyin 难道得用shuangpin才正常？
[06:37] <kandu> jusss: 把 csslayer 吊起来打一顿，也会正常的
[06:38] <jusss> kandu: it's about csslayer ? my IME broken
[06:39] <jusss> shuangpin is not good
[06:40] <jusss> I'd like to input 'today' , I input jintian , it's not jintian, I need to input j't , weird
[06:40] <onlylove_> jusss: 好像是 csslayer在维护fcitx，所以吊打他应该可以
[06:40] <BuMangHuo> iMadper: 你不说我还以为春假跟产假、婚假是一种类型呢
[06:41] <onlylove_> jusss: 我也没放过春假
[06:41] <jusss> onlylove_: oh I see, I misunderstand
[06:41] <iMadper> BuMangHuo: 赞.
[06:41] <iMadper> jusss: csslayer is a person.
[06:41] <iMadper> jusss: not css.
[06:41] <lainme> cs slayer
[06:42] <jusss> css layer
[06:42] <QiongMangHuo> cs slayer
[06:43] <jusss> iMadper: is he in some channels on freenode ?
[06:43] <iMadper> jusss: #fcitx?
[06:47] <onlylove_> 我刚不该想咋还不掉的……
[06:49] <happyaron> jusss: 找 csslayer
[06:52] <BuMangHuo> onlylove_: ...
[06:52] <jusss> happyaron: zhao le
[06:55] <hoxily> jusss: 双拼多好用。
[06:56] <jusss> happyaron: what about fcitx-libpinyin and fcitx-googlepinyin, they're better than fcitx-pinyin ?
[06:56] <jusss> hoxily: I can't agree with you
[06:56] <hoxily> jusss: 最长的全拼有六个字母，双拼统一为2个字母。
[06:57] <hoxily> jusss: You can't agree with me any more?
[06:57] <jusss> hoxily: no
[07:06] <jusss> fcitx-libpinyin is more slowly than fcitx-pinyin ...
[07:06] <HowIsItGoing> QiongMangHuo: O0XX|Qiong iMadper 报销好麻烦啊，伐开心
[07:06] <QiongMangHuo> HowIsItGoing: 那别报 =,=
[07:06] <HowIsItGoing> QiongMangHuo: 更不开心
[07:08] <QiongMangHuo> HowIsItGoing: 我觉得报销方便得很啊...
[07:08] <QiongMangHuo> HowIsItGoing: 尤其不要实体
[07:08] <HowIsItGoing> QiongMangHuo: 报了不发钱啊
[07:08] <HowIsItGoing> QiongMangHuo: 我去年7月去UK的报销，到现在都没给钱
[07:08] <iMadper> HowIsItGoing: 今天nancy来office说要发报销.
[07:09] <QiongMangHuo> HowIsItGoing: 找人, 报bug, 跟这儿说没用啊..
[07:09] <QiongMangHuo> HowIsItGoing: 我二月初提的报销 二月底就发了 啦啦啦
[07:10] <HowIsItGoing> QiongMangHuo: ……
[07:10] <HowIsItGoing> QiongMangHuo: 发了邮件了
[07:10] <onlylove> HowIsItGoing: 你是不是调戏财务小姑娘了
[07:10] <HowIsItGoing> onlylove: 财务的都是土财主，谁敢得罪
[07:11] <iMadper> O0XX|Qiong: 詹悌真是踢皮球的高手.
[07:11] <iMadper> O0XX|Qiong: 皮特都没话可说了.
[07:13] <onlylove> happyaron: 4月25放jessie？
[07:14] <O0XX|Qiong> iMadper: 我觉得我在这边最大的收获就是学会怎么踢皮球了
[07:14] <O0XX|Qiong> iMadper: 等等就可以进国家对了
[07:15] <iMadper> O0XX|Qiong: 我在猫猫就学会了提bug给Evan和performance team.
[07:15] <jiero> O0XX|Qiong: ...
[07:15] <jiero> HowIsItGoing: 。。。财主们
[07:15] <onlylove> https://www.gentoo.org/
[07:16] <QiongMangHuo> iMadper: 为什么要给 evanwang ?
[07:16] <iMadper> QiongMangHuo: 另外一个人, evan embbaaxxxx
[07:17] <^k^> 暂无新帖 讲个笑话吧: 竟然是图片 http://i0.xiaohua.fd.zol-img.com.cn/t_s600x5000/g3/M09/00/07/Cg-4WFI2okWII2JzAACBvkkcOr8AALq_QLMMdsAAIHW716.jpg 你咬我无所谓,别吓到旁边的小孩
[07:17] <O0XX|Qiong> iMadper: 先把皮球踢出去, 争取无限时间
[07:27] * O0XX|Qiong 困...
[07:28] <jusss> 重启fcitx还得重启emacs ...
[07:28] <jusss> 现在在用fcitx-googlepinyin,貌似还行
[07:28] <jusss> fcitx-libpinyin好卡
[07:35] <tryit> jusss, 工作怎么样了
[07:36] <Guest89194> hoho不知道有人没
[07:37] <happyaron> onlylove: 好像是吧
[07:40] <Guest89194> 刚去gentoo-cn看了，没有人说话
[07:41] <kandu> onlylove: 前几天刚释出 rc2 installer
[07:42] <onlylove> http://www.solidot.org/story?sid=43545
[07:42] <^k^> ⇪ ti: Solidot | Google愚人节推出com.google
[07:42] <kandu> onlylove: 好期待
[07:42] <onlylove> kandu: 我在想jessie stable以后下一个sid会改名叫啥
[07:43] <onlylove> happyaron: debian10的codename是啥
[07:44] <happyaron> onlylove: 不知道
[07:44] <onlylove> happyaron: 你是dd都不知道？那9呢？jessie现在还应该是testing
[07:51] <BuMangHuo> test
[07:51] <^k^> BuMangHuo:点点点. 15:51
[07:52] <happyaron> onlylove: 我也不是万能的……
[07:53] <iMadper> happyaron: 你是小dd都不知道？那9呢？jessie现在还应该是testing
[07:54] <happyaron> iMadper: 我本来就不是万能的
[07:54] <iMadper> happyaron: 我没别的意思, 我只是纠正一下 onlylove对你的称呼
[07:54] <happyaron> ...
[07:57] <jiero> happyaron: 我们没说 happyaron 是万能的，只是一个普通的土豪
[07:59] <BuMangHuo> iMadper: http://faxian.smzdm.com/p/491633 这划算么
[07:59] <^k^> BuMangHuo: ⇪ ZOJIRUSHI 象印 SM-JD48-BA 480ml 不锈钢保温杯 1936日元_日本亚马逊优惠_发现频道_什么值得买
[07:59] <iMadper> BuMangHuo: 国内特价也能买岛这个.
[07:59] <iMadper> BuMangHuo: 国内特价也差不多了
[07:59] <iMadper> BuMangHuo: 140块钱应该国内有过这个价.
[08:00] <BuMangHuo> iMadper: 这个不是 100 么
[08:00] <iMadper> BuMangHuo: 免邮国内?
[08:00] <BuMangHuo> 哦，还得运费啊
[08:00] <iMadper> BuMangHuo: 没必要为了便宜十块钱折腾一趟啊
[08:05] <iMadper> O0XX|Qiong: When kmalloc() is called, all it does is search through the general caches until it finds a suitably sized cache, and then calls __kmem_cache_alloc() to grab an object from that cache and returns it to the caller.
[08:10] <BuMangHuo> 好吧
[08:14] <iIlL10Oo> jiero: 膜拜
[08:15] <jiero> iIlL10Oo: 膜拜什么？
[08:16] <jiero> BuMangHuo iMadper : 你们要保温杯学美女煮鸡蛋吗？
[08:22] <iIlL10Oo> jiero: 膜拜美女煮鸡蛋
[08:23] <jiero> iIlL10Oo: 。。http://www.tudou.com/programs/view/DhS2W8U2QGc
[08:23] <^k^> ⇪ ti: 煮一颗完美鸡蛋|喃猫料理日常_土豆_高清视频在线观看
[08:25] <iIlL10Oo> jiero: 男猫。。。
[08:26] <jiero> iIlL10Oo 好吧。
[08:27] <iIlL10Oo> jiero: 万一鸡蛋里面有寄生虫咋办？
[08:28] <jiero> iIlL10Oo: 吃掉了
[08:28] <jiero> iIlL10Oo: 万一你吸入的空气里有寄生虫怎么办？
[08:28] <jiero> iIlL10Oo: 你的被子里一定有寄生虫
[08:28] * QiongMangHuo 今天对我这种严肃的阅读者来说太糟糕了, 到处都是假消息
[08:29] <iIlL10Oo> jiero: 消化液够厉害的话，可以把寄生虫消化了，没事
[08:30] <iIlL10Oo> jiero: 吃出抵抗力，睡出免疫力
[08:30] <QiongMangHuo> iIlL10Oo: 怎么没把肠胃消化了呢?
[08:30] <jiero> iIlL1你死吧死吧。
[08:32] <iIlL10Oo> QiongMangHuo: 根据生物学家的说法，胃的生长力很强，消化掉了没事。肠里面没有消化液
[08:32] <iIlL10Oo> jiero: 人类可比寄生虫厉害多了
[08:33] <O0XX|Qiong> iMadper: https://com.google/ 上上上
[08:33] <jiero> iIlL10Oo: 是吧。
[08:33] * QiongMangHuo 明天可不可以穿短袖?
[08:33] * jiero 打飞 iIlL10Oo
[08:33] <jiero> QiongMangHuo: 可以穿无袖
[08:34] <QiongMangHuo> jiero: 我又不是基佬
[08:34] <QiongMangHuo> O0XX|Qiong: 刚起床?
[08:34] <iIlL10Oo> jiero: 为啥视频里的美女有沟？
[08:34] <jiero> QiongMangHuo: 你不是，你是为了女生的。
[08:35] <jiero> QiongMangHuo: 为什么你会想到基佬 - 别人这么看你的？
[08:36] <QiongMangHuo> O0XX|Qiong: 我这么看穿无袖的
[08:37] <jiero> QiongMangHuo: 去你的。。。打篮球的大批穿无袖的。。。
[08:42] <^k^> 暂无新帖 讲个笑话吧: http://xiaohua.zol.com.cn/detail1/15760.html 性 急 : 有一个人、性子很急,仆人有了过错,他令仆人下跪,准备责 打,连喊"拿板子来！ ""拿板子来！ "板子没拿来,他急得要命。仆人见他急成这样,便替他想了个法子,对主人说:"那就先打我个嘴巴子应应急吧！ "
[08:44] <QiongMangHuo> O0XX|Qiong: iMadper casparant roylez http://www.acfun.tv/v/ac1817808 一定要看!!!
[08:44] <^k^> QiongMangHuo: ⇪ 据说这是一名物理老师，给同学们讲解胸口碎大石的原理... - AcFun弹幕视频网 - 中国宅文化基地
[08:45] <iMadper> QiongMangHuo: 看过动图.
[08:45] <iMadper> QiongMangHuo: 上班呢
[09:24] <cherrot> maple 好久没来了
[09:25] * O0XX|Qiong 摩擦摩擦, 在这光滑的触控板上摩擦! 摩擦!
[09:25] <cherrot> O0XX|Qiong, 新入了MBP?
[09:26] <O0XX|Qiong> cherrot: 那就好了...
[09:26] <O0XX|Qiong> cherrot: 测bug
[09:26] <cherrot> O0XX|Qiong, =。=
[09:26] <^k^> 新 Ubuntu移动应用开发 • 使用中国镜像站加速安装 Ubuntu 手机开发工具 http://forum.ubuntu.org.cn/viewtopic.php?t=469217 Ubuntu 手机许多资源都储存于欧洲服务器，为了方便中国开发者加速安装开发工具。Canonical 为中国开发者设立了数个境外服务器的映像站。 安装 Ubuntu SDK (QT Creator) 集成开发环境 请
[09:26] <^k^> ─> 透过以下命令使用新的 SDK PPA 源 Code: # remote the old ppa repository. https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu …
[09:32] <BuMangHuo> O0XX|Qiong: 壕
[09:39] <onlylove> cherrot: 你俩谁换新东家来着
[09:39] <cherrot> onlylove, me
[09:41] * cherrot 持续内推招人中
[09:43] <QiongMangHuo> cherrot: 我我我
[09:44] <cherrot> QiongMangHuo, 我们倒是有硬件和嵌入式的需求 你看得上不
[09:45] <QiongMangHuo> cherrot: 硬件不会 嵌入式只会一点点 看得上不
[09:45] * QiongMangHuo 刚洗了个澡
[09:46] <O0XX|Qiong> QiongMangHuo: 买了个表?
[09:46] <cherrot> QiongMangHuo, 你来肯定看得上啊~
[09:46] <QiongMangHuo> O0XX|Qiong: 买了个包
[09:47] <O0XX|Qiong> cherrot: 是你看上 QiongMangHuo 了吧?
[09:47] <QiongMangHuo> cherrot: 可我啥也不会啊...
[09:47] <O0XX|Qiong> iMadper: ^^
[09:47] <O0XX|Qiong> iMadper: 你说我说的对不?
[09:47] <iMadper> O0XX|Qiong: 对.
[09:47] <QiongMangHuo> cherrot: 来来来 给我加薪
[09:47] <cherrot> QiongMangHuo, 给我简历就成啊 来不来先面个基吃个饭嘛
[09:47] <QiongMangHuo> O0XX|Qiong: 我真的买了个包 http://item.jd.com/746677.html 中午到货的
[09:47] <^k^> QiongMangHuo: ⇪ 【马盖先圆筒包】马盖先 MaxGear波士顿圆筒包0407R橙色【行情 报价 价格 评测】-京东 pp: 229.00
[09:48] <QiongMangHuo> O0XX|Qiong: 昨天特价六十五
[09:48] <iMadper> QiongMangHuo: 我刚想说这货平时都是99...
[09:48] <O0XX|Qiong> QiongMangHuo: 看成了马桶盖包
[09:48] <QiongMangHuo> iMadper: 确实缺个包
[09:48] <iMadper> QiongMangHuo: 圆桶很淡腾.
[09:48] <iMadper> 蛋疼..
[09:48] <QiongMangHuo> iMadper: 每每提着京东袋子路过蓝色港湾去游泳的时候都被路人鄙视
[09:49] <QiongMangHuo> iMadper: 心在滴血
[09:49] <O0XX|Qiong> QiongMangHuo: 人家是羡慕你
[09:49] <iMadper> QiongMangHuo: 你的舔爸包不错啊
[09:49] <QiongMangHuo> iMadper: 太大
[09:49] <QiongMangHuo> iMadper: 圆筒背着游泳健身爬山蛮好哒
[09:49] <QiongMangHuo> O0XX|Qiong: 羡慕个鬼
[09:49] <iMadper> QiongMangHuo: 羡慕.
[09:50] <O0XX|Qiong> QiongMangHuo: 羡慕.
[09:50] <O0XX|Qiong> QiongMangHuo: 人参淫夹
[09:56] <QiongMangHuo> "今天愚人节，等到中午了还没有人来骗我，如果下午还没有人来骗我，那我只好等到晚七点看新闻联播了——无论如何，这个节还是要过的。 "
[09:57] <jusss> tryit: 还在找。。。
[09:58] <tryit> QiongMangHuo, iMadper O0XX|Qiong remote compile 有啥好的解决方案？
[09:58] <O0XX|Qiong> tryit: 飞机或者火车
[10:01] <jusss> tryit: 你们工资都多少？
[10:02] <tryit> jusss, 你猜猜～
[10:02] <jusss> tryit: 8k ?
[10:02] <tryit> jusss, 咋这么聪明 :D
[10:03] <jusss> tryit: ...
[10:03] <jusss> tryit: 你bash怎么样？
[10:04] <tryit> jusss, 不咋样
[10:06] <jusss> tryit: 你们面试都问什么问题？
[10:06] <jusss> tryit: 随便说两个
[10:07] <jusss> onlylove_: 你还在用你那个lg手机？
[10:08] <QiongMangHuo> jusss: 请问bash名字里的笑点是什么
[10:09] <casparant> QiongMangHuo: 你知道还有谁在 RH 么
[10:09] <QiongMangHuo> casparant: ooOO_OOoo
[10:09] <casparant> ooOO_OOoo 你这nick真是。。。。。
[10:12] <onlylove> jusss: 我那手机咋了
[10:12] <onlylove> jusss: 还能用
[10:12] <BuMangHuo> nnnd
[10:12] <jusss> onlylove 现在都用android了，你为啥还不换。。。
[10:12] <BuMangHuo> 干嘛下雨啊
[10:13] <onlylove> jusss: 多大事……我那机器能待机5天呢
[10:13] <onlylove> jusss: 再说了，我有个玩具安卓啊
[10:13] <onlylove> jusss: 我不爱剪卡而已
[10:14] <jusss> onlylove: 高端玩具？
[10:14] <jusss> 竟然要剪卡。。。
[10:14] <onlylove> jusss: 不过那玩具当年也不便宜，2000+呢
[10:15] <jusss> onlylove: 我没一个手机超过2000的还
[10:15] <onlylove> jusss: 现在的sim卡不用剪了，直接有小卡，当年可没有
[10:35] <hoxily> bash： 重击，Diablo II 野蛮人战斗系技能
[10:53] <^k^> 暂无新帖 讲个笑话吧: 竟然是图片 http://i1.xiaohua.fd.zol-img.com.cn/t_s600x5000/g3/M04/00/08/Cg-4WFI2p3WIH5RyAABmf3bggokAALrEAF194sAAGaX141.jpg 这厮居然喜欢上网看A片
[11:43] <^k^> 新 系统安装和升级 • win7 ubuntu 双系统重启后黑屏 http://forum.ubuntu.org.cn/viewtopic.php?t=469218 笔记本电脑安装64位win7系统，然后通过硬盘安装ubuntu系统（12.04.LTS 64位）。在win7系统下，重启进入ubuntu系统，会出现黑屏的情况；同样，在ubuntu系统下，重启进入win7系统也会出现黑屏的情况。另外，
[11:43] <^k^> ─> 每次进入ubuntu系统，笔记本都会发出“咚”的一声。请各位大侠帮忙解决，谢谢！ z …
[12:23] <jiero> ..
[12:23] * jiero 终于知道自己多么奇葩了。
[12:55] <jusss> test
[12:55] <^k^> jusss:点点点. 20:54
[13:13] <^k^> 暂无新帖 讲个笑话吧: 竟然是图片 http://i1.xiaohua.fd.zol-img.com.cn/t_s600x5000/g4/M06/06/08/Cg-4WlJWHtqIAzAJAADNZmNNdhoAAMZFAEyBNwAAM1-031.jpg 无敌死循环啊。。。
[13:33] <iMadper> tryit: ping.
[13:51] <jusss> onlylove_: 你怎么还是不停的掉呀。。。
[13:52] <jusss> fcitx-googlepiyin貌似真的比fcitx-pinyin好
[13:52] <jusss> fcitx-pinyin打不完就把字蹦出来了，fcitx-googlepinyin还没遇到
[13:57] <jusss> hoxily: 我的py经常MemoryError怎么办？
[13:58] <hoxily> jusss: 内存不足嘛，你的VPS内存太小。
[13:58] <jusss> hoxily: 1G的
[13:59] <jusss> hoxily: 很大了吧
[13:59] <hoxily> jusss: 那么就是内存泄露了。
[13:59] <jusss> hoxily: 那怎么办
[13:59] <jusss> hoxily: 捕捉异常？
[13:59] <hoxily> jusss: 我也不太懂。照理Python有垃圾回收器的。
[14:00] <jusss> hoxily: 然后经常不停的写某字段到文件，创造到45M的大文件
[14:02] <jusss> hoxily: 看query
[14:45] <^k^> 暂无新帖 讲个笑话吧: 名字 : 有个人在银行开户,委托银行职员为他填表,职员问他:"你叫什么?" "费费费雷罗*彼彼彼得洛维奇*帕帕帕里奇。" "对不起,先生,您口吃么?" "不,只是我父亲口吃,而那个为我进行出生登记的人就这么给记下来了！ "
[14:50] <onlylove_> 惊喜的发现，自己下班又没退客户端
[15:00] <{ToT}> onlylove_: 蛤蛤
[15:00] <onlylove_> 别学牛牛，我害怕
[15:02] <freen0d3rr> hello guys, sorry to bother, Someone could help me to access a file from a pan.baidu.com ? That I cannt acces. I think baidu doesnt allow other countries
[15:02] <alvin_rxg> Title: 百度云 网盘-自由存，随心享 (@ baidu.com)
[15:04] <freen0d3rr> anyone online?
[15:06] <iMadper> freen0d3rr: .
[15:06] <iMadper> freen0d3rr: the URL?
[15:08] <freen0d3rr> iMadper:
[15:08] <freen0d3rr> http://pan.baidu.com/wap/shareview?&shareid=4057526253&uk=2214641459&dir=%2FVerycd%20Share%2FO%27Reilly%2F2015%2F2015-3&page=1&num=20&fsid=738951381026390&third=0
[15:08] <^k^> freen0d3rr: ⇪ OReilly.Elasticsearch.The.Definitive.Guide.2015.1.epub_免费高速下载|百度云 网盘-分享无限制
[15:09] <iMadper> freen0d3rr: how I send you it?
[15:10] <freen0d3rr> iMadper: may I pm you my email address?
[15:10] <iMadper> freen0d3rr: sure.
[15:13] <iMadper> freen0d3rr: have you pm the email-address?
[15:13] <freen0d3rr> iMadper: i am having a connection problem here :)
[15:13] <iMadper> freen0d3rr: okay.
[15:25] <onlylove_> 老外也看盗版书么
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2024-05-13T22:11:14.232805
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2015-04-01-#ubuntu-app-devel
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[07:35] <rpadovani> Elleo, o/ I've a problem with keyboard, and popey said you're the right person to ask for some help :) Long story short: I want that a component has visible: true only after the keyboard is totally dismissed, not when it stasts the animation to dismiss. So I did
[07:35] <rpadovani> Connections {
[07:35] <rpadovani> 77 id: oskKeyboard
[07:35] <rpadovani> 78 target: Qt.inputMethod
[07:35] <rpadovani> 79 }
[07:35] <rpadovani> visible:!oskKeyboard.visible
[07:35] <rpadovani> but doesn't work
[08:32] <Elleo> rpadovani: yeah, apps changing Qt.inputMethod.visible is what triggers the hiding animation to start; you could look at Qt.inputMethod.keyboardRectangle and see when the height reaches 0 though
[08:34] <rpadovani> Elleo, thanks :-)
[08:35] <Elleo> no problem :)
[08:53] <jun> hi, i want to get natvie window handle from a qwidget, is that possible? how can i do it?
[09:00] <jun> hi, i want to get natvie window handle from a qwidget, is that possible? how to do it?
[09:23] <mivoligo> mzanetti: ping ping
[09:23] <mzanetti> mivoligo, hi
[09:23] <mivoligo> mzanetti: I still can't get your branch to work :(
[09:25] <mivoligo> mzanetti: that's what it says when I hover over import UnityScreen http://screencloud.net/v/5I4v
[09:26] <mivoligo> mzanetti: similar with 15.04 armhf
[09:26] <mzanetti> mivoligo, yeah.... there's something that prevents it from running on 14.10
[09:26] <mzanetti> mivoligo, lets just wait with merging this branch until bq gets an update to 15.04
[09:26] <mzanetti> then it should start working
[09:27] <mivoligo> mzanetti: is it planned any time soon?
[09:27] <mzanetti> I think so, yes
[09:27] <mzanetti> don't have details on the roadmap though
[09:27] <mivoligo> ok
[09:29] <mzanetti> I'm a bit puzzled by that error though... I've done this before and it worked...
[09:29] <mivoligo> mzanetti: so, meanwhile I wanted to add some features to BigMovingText. Would that be a problem with merging your branch later on?
[09:30] <mzanetti> mivoligo, nah, just go on... I'll update my branch
[09:31] <mivoligo> mzanetti: great :)
[09:46] <mardy> kalikiana: hi! I have an app with Window { OrientationHelper { ... { Dialog {}}}, and the dialog get rotated twice
[09:47] <mardy> kalikiana: that is, everything is ok when in portrait mode, but when I turn to landscape, the dialog is actually rotated 180 degrees from its original position
[09:47] <mardy> kalikiana: it's probably because the root item is a Window and not a MainView, but I cannot find the difference
[09:48] <mardy> kalikiana: any ideas on what could be wrong?
[09:54] <rpadovani> popey, I think this is last blocker bug for including calculator in the ota
[09:54] <rpadovani> https://code.launchpad.net/~rpadovani/ubuntu-calculator-app/waitUntilOskIsHidden/+merge/254875
[09:58] <popey> rpadovani: i agree :)
[09:58] <popey> rpadovani: seems jenkins didn't like it
[09:59] * popey retriggers
[10:01] <kalikiana> mardy: the dialog expects to find a property called automaticOrientation in the root item which in your case won't be there; please file a bug report
[10:09] <mardy> kalikiana: OK, thanks
[10:10] <jun> hi, i want to get natvie window handle from a qwidget, is that possible? how to do it?
[10:19] <mardy> kalikiana: FYI, bug 1439102
[10:19] <mardy> kalikiana: I added a simple test case
[10:49] <someone__> hi everone.
[10:51] <someone__> I've tried setting a user-agent for a web-app since many days.
[10:52] <someone__> The only thing working is setting a overwrite in my ua-overrides-desktop.js
[10:52] <someone__> But this of course only works on my maschine.
[10:52] <someone__> i've seen two other aproaches:
[10:52] <someone__> Exec=webapp-container --local-webapp-manifest=ua.js --user-agent-string="Mozilla/5.0 custom-ua (unlike AnyOtheBrowser)" --store-session-cookies --webappUrlPatterns=https?://myhttp.info/* http://myhttp.info %u
[10:53] <someone__> where some people use "--local-webapp-manifest" and set a webapp-properties.json, others use "--local-webapp-manifest=ua.js" with the obvious js file
[10:53] <someone__> both does not work for me
[10:54] <someone__> the other way is using --user-agent-string="Mozilla/5.0 custom-ua (unlike AnyOtheBrowser)" which does not work for me either
[10:54] <someone__> Anyone any idea?
[10:55] <someone__> Plus; My new BQ Ubuntu Phone does not get recognizes by the ubuntu SDK. is that normal? I would really like to test on that device and not on a simulator
[10:56] <ogra_> do you have developer mode enabled and the screen unlocked when trying to connect to it ?
[10:59] <popey> rpadovani: mzanetti do you want me to request translations for reminders now conflict resolution has landed - and has new strings?
[11:00] <mzanetti> popey, yes please.
[11:00] <mzanetti> popey, IMO we have a good state for a release again
[11:01] <someone__> @ogra_ I just double-checked and now it worked. Weird. Thanks!
[11:01] <ogra_> :)
[11:03] <popey> mzanetti: exactly what I was thinking, get the translations done over easter weekend, submit next tuesday?
[11:04] <mzanetti> popey, sounds great
[11:04] <mzanetti> popey, I'll be off next tuesday, but I'm not really need for that anyways I think
[11:04] <mzanetti> needed, even
[11:05] <popey> ok
[11:05] <popey> great.
[11:05] <popey> mzanetti: think we need a manual test case for conflicts.
[11:05] <mzanetti> fair enough
[11:05] <mzanetti> lemme look at the spread sheet
[11:05] <popey> k
[11:05] <mzanetti> popey, is that actually used by someone?
[11:14] <mzanetti> popey, added rows 61 - 63 to the spreadsheet
[11:22] <someone__> Any suggestions to the UserAgent problem?
[11:24] <popey> mzanetti: nice one!
[11:24] <popey> mzanetti: yes, QA use it when testing
[11:25] <mzanetti> popey, perfect! then I'll make sure this is up to date
[11:26] <ogra_> someone__, "doesnt work" is not such a helpful error description :)
[11:27] <someone__> Hmmm... Okay. "It does not change anything for the Useragent"
[11:27] <ogra_> does your click not start ? does it start but the site shown shows something different than expected ? ... waht do the logs say ? ....
[11:28] <popey> mzanetti: ok, mail sent to translators, so we should see them arriving over the weekend.
[11:28] * popey <3 our translators
[11:28] <mzanetti> :)
[11:29] <someone__> So myhttp.info still shows the same user agent. As I said, it works if I edit the ua-overrides-desktop.js file.
[11:32] <ogra_> someone__, did you try leaving out the --local-webapp-manifest option ?
[11:34] <someone__> Working on a Ubuntu 14.04 LTS, when I try to run it on my ubuntu phone (which now is displayed in the SDK), I get: "Cannot install /tmp/de.aypac.whatsapp-webapp_0.1_all.click: Framework "ubuntu-core-15.04" not present on system (use --force-missing-framework option to override)", which I guess comes from the fact that I have a 15.04 kit and my phone uses 14.10. But I'm not able to create a new kit without the wizzard.
[11:35] <someone__> @ogra_ not yet. You mean having the json but not using the option?
[11:35] <ogra_> no, dropping it altogether
[11:36] <someone__> Then I get the default user agent.
[11:36] <ogra_> only using --user-agent-string= option
[11:36] <ogra_> +the
[11:36] <someone__> yes. I've tried all options seperately and together
[11:36] <ogra_> oSoMoN, ^^^ ?
[11:37] * ogra_ uses webviews in a small qml wrapper for such things, not sure why the option doesnt work for you with the webapp-container
[11:38] <oSoMoN> someone__, can you share your click package with me?
[11:42] <someone__> @oSoMoN sure, I'll upload it in a min. Is there an option to comment in the *.desktop-file?
[11:42] <someone__> So I can indicate all lines I've tried?
[11:43] <someone__> using % works for my desktop but on other platforms I get errors. Same for //
[11:43] <oSoMoN> someone__, any line beginning with a # is considered a comment, IIRC
[11:45] <zsombi> kalikiana: alarm Id MR is ready for review https://code.launchpad.net/~zsombi/ubuntu-ui-toolkit/expose-alarm-id/+merge/254084
[11:49] <someone__> With # I still get: :-1: error: desktop_duplicate_keys (whatsapp): found duplicate keys: #Exec,#Exec,#Exec
[11:49] <kalikiana> zsombi: aye
[11:50] <ogra_> someone__, just copy it to .desktop.bak in your click dir and keep your comments in there
[11:51] <ogra_> then you dont need to bother with the actual file
[11:51] <oSoMoN> someone__, huh, then I don’t know… can you attach a text file that contains everything you tried?
[11:51] <someone__> ogra__, oSoMoN Okay
[11:52] <nik90> dpm: hey, just wanted to update you that we got the world city translation to be loaded properly now. At the end it was indeed the locale domain initialization that was missing in the c++ plugin. It was merged as well to trunk yesterday.
[11:56] <someone__> https://www.wetransfer.com/downloads/8f75bd6fdf260cb084f16b6af4a427d720150401115540/7816af0e278573a72495feab0842bcff20150401115540/8f9a1c
[12:07] <dpm> nik90, nice!
[12:07] <dpm> thanks for the heads up
[12:10] <dpm> someone__, you might want to ask on the #ubuntu-webapps channel
[12:10] <dpm> someone__, also, not sure if a webapp for whatsapp will work at all
[12:13] <someone__> @dpm thanks! It works on my computer right now (If I modify the ua-overwrites-desktop.js)
[12:13] <someone__> I see no reason why it should not work on the phone
[12:13] <someone__> As long as you have an old android device lying around
[12:17] <dpm> someone__, it'd be great if it worked indeed!
[12:18] <dpm> dbarth__, perhaps someone in your team could help with someone__'s effort on the whatsapp webapp? ^^
[12:18] <zsombi> nik90: dude, I made some small changes on the alarm ID MR to cache the alarms returned by get() and find(), could you also take a look on it?
[12:18] <zsombi> nik90: https://code.launchpad.net/~zsombi/ubuntu-ui-toolkit/expose-alarm-id/+merge/254084
[12:19] <nik90> zsombi: Do you need me to test it?
[12:19] <zsombi> nik90: I woudl appreciate if you could run one test yes
[12:19] <zsombi> nik90: the stress test passes, but you never know...
[12:20] <nik90> zsombi: Sure I will run it against the clock app in about an hour. Please do not top-approve until then.
[12:21] <zsombi> kalikiana: ^ wait with happroval till nik90 also checks it
[12:23] <dbarth__> dpm, someone__: i think whatsapp was discussed last week
[12:23] <someone__> Is there a transcript?
[12:23] <dbarth__> as someone (!) was attempting to have it work by tweaking user agent strings and so on, but that was a dead end
[12:24] <dbarth__> someone__: let me check
[12:24] <someone__> dbarth__ how was it a dead end? I could image it does not display properly on small screens. Thanks
[12:28] <someone__> Anyways, it would be nice if I could use my phone for testing. The issue with the 15.04 and 14.10 remains (I only have a 15.04 kit but my phone is 14.10). Is there any way to run the wizzard again? Or how do I get a new Sysroot for 14.10 in /var/lib/schroot/chroots/
[12:30] <someone__> or where can I add the "--force-missing-framework" option?
[12:31] <dbarth__> someone__: because of that FAQ: http://www.whatsapp.com/faq/web/28080002
[12:31] <dbarth__> essentially the web frontend takes a native counterpart on a phone
[12:33] <someone__> sure. As I said, you would need an old android lying around
[12:34] <someone__> but since you get those on ebay for a few bucks I don't see a problem there. Of course this would not be a 'real' whatsapp, but a dirty workaround.
[12:36] <someone__> And even for the desktop it would be nice. I delete my cookies in FF sometimes several times a day. To have one single 'app' with persistent cookies would be nice. Best would be of course if the cookies were synchronized between your mobile and your desktop. I'm thinking of ways to do that, if I get it working with the user agent
[12:39] <dbarth__> someone__: for that you can use the webapp containers; and for syncing you could look at a JS cookie library paired with something like u1db maybe
[13:08] <kalikiana> zsombi: there's a qDebug line left https://code.launchpad.net/~zsombi/ubuntu-ui-toolkit/expose-alarm-id/+merge/254084
[13:08] <zsombi> kalikiana: aaah, ok, I'll whipe that out
[13:20] <zsombi> kalikiana: fixed
[13:20] <zsombi> nik90: so it's up on you to approve it as well now
[13:52] <nik90> zsombi: I am experiencing some funky behavior. First, out of 5 tries, clock app crashed twice. Second, alarms that I deleted reappear sometimes. I am trying to find a reliable way of reproducing these issues
[13:53] <zsombi> nik90: hmm... do you test using the main clock branch, right?
[13:54] <nik90> zsombi: yes
[13:56] <zsombi> nik90: do you know whether renatu's MR introducing the X-* details support landed?
[13:56] <zsombi> nik90: or first, are you using EDS backend?
[13:56] <nik90> zsombi: yeah I am using the EDS backend. Second I am not sure if it landed, let me check
[13:56] <renatu> zsombi, not yet/. http://people.canonical.com/~platform/citrain_dashboard/#?q=ubuntu%2Flanding-008
[13:57] <zsombi> nik90: from EDS backend we need that support
[13:57] <zsombi> nik90: ^^
[13:58] <nik90> zsombi: oh..although the issues I am facing seems to be some sort of caching issue though..like clock app on reopening the page showing the old alarm model data
[13:58] <nik90> zsombi: if it needs renatu's branch, let wait for it to land and retest it.
[13:58] <nik90> s/it/this
[13:59] <zsombi> nik90: reopening which page? the alarm editor page? or teh Alarms list?
[14:00] <nik90> zsombi: reopening the alarms list page and also the clock's main page. Here's what happened. I open the alarm list page and create 2 new alarms which are enabled. On going back to the main clock app, the bottom edge reads "No Active alarms"...I repeat then open and close the alarm list page a couple of times and then the bottom edge title correctly updates
[14:01] <zsombi> nik90: yeah... EDS backend doesn't support the X-* yet on your side, so alarm ID is not saved => the whole app is messed up
[14:01] <nik90> zsombi: ah ok
[14:02] <zsombi> nik90: the alarm data version, alarm ID and activation URL are saved as extended details, so till support for it comes, you rapp will behave like that
[14:02] <zsombi> nik90: you coudl test till then with memory manager
[14:03] <nik90> zsombi: I don't mind testing the memory manager, but using EDS would make the testing as close as possible to the phone environment. I will nonetheless test using memory manager as well
[14:03] <zsombi> nik90: sure, just wanted to see whether the app works well with the branch
[14:03] <zsombi> nik90: we won't happrove it till you do approve it too
[14:04] <zsombi> nik90: I've added you as reviewer as well
[14:05] <nik90> zsombi: thnx. I will report my test finding for both memory manager and eds in the comments when I am done
[14:05] <zsombi> nik90: kthx
[14:09] <nik90> zsombi: could you check on your side if the data changed signal is fired properly? I notice that the bottom edge title is not aware of alarm model changes when I modify an existing alarm. It correctly updates when I add/remove an alarm which fires the alarm model count changed signal.
[14:09] <nik90> zsombi: this is while using the memory manager
[14:10] <zsombi> nik90: dataChanged right?
[14:10] <nik90> zsombi: yes
[14:10] <zsombi> nik90: I will
[14:14] * nik90 brb
[14:30] <LangeOortjes> hey I was trying to run my app on my newly arrived Aquaris E4.5. I am using Ubuntu.Components 1.2 and hence targetting the 15.04 framework. When I try to deploy the app to my device, it complains that "ubuntu-core-15.04" is not present on system
[14:31] <LangeOortjes> I should note that I updated the device to ubuntu-touch/devel-proposed/krillin.en
[14:32] <popey> this is correct, target the 14.10 framework
[14:33] <Elleo> popey: I'm surprised the 15.04 framework isn't available on 15.04, any idea why?
[14:33] * mcphail has had this problem with the emulator
[14:33] <popey> Elleo: because nobody has done it yet.
[14:34] <popey> lool: ^
[14:34] <popey> still your domain?
[14:38] <ogra_> popey, there should be 15.04-dev1 or some such
[14:38] <LangeOortjes> ogra_, popey, tried that one as well ;)
[14:38] <ogra_> the -devX will only be dropped with the last upload
[14:38] <ogra_> phablet@ubuntu-phablet:~$ ls /usr/share/click/frameworks/|grep 15.04
[14:38] <ogra_> phablet@ubuntu-phablet:~$
[14:38] <ogra_> hmm
[14:41] <beuno> ubuntu-core-15.04 is snappy
[14:41] <beuno> there is no 15.04 touch framework
[14:42] <beuno> which is ok, 14.10 works on 15.04 just fine
[14:42] <popey> what if you have an app which only works on 15.04?
[14:43] <beuno> there is no such thing, as 15.04 hasn't produced a framework
[14:43] <popey> le sigh
[14:43] <popey> I find it incredibly frustrating to have this conversation every six months.
[14:43] <LangeOortjes> popey, beuno that is confusing because the SDK does offer the option to target the ubuntu-core-15.04 framework
[14:44] <beuno> LangeOortjes, it's a bug that the SDK offers you a framework touch doesn't support
[14:44] <beuno> bzoltan_, ^
[14:47] <bzoltan_> beuno: The sdk pulls the list of frameworks from the store
[14:49] <mcphail> The various options for 14.10 are confusing as well
[14:49] <bzoltan_> beuno: But we do a quick fix to filter out the core frameworks if lool does not want or can not fix it on the server side. No problem for me.
[14:50] <bzoltan_> lool: mcphail: beuno: the best would be to release an ubuntu-sdk-15.04 framework
[14:50] <ogra_> to early ...
[14:50] <ogra_> what i wonder though is why we did not have a 15.04-devX one this cycle
[14:51] <ogra_> i thought that was a standard, so people can develop against the upcoming framework while it is unstable
[14:52] <bzoltan_> ogra_: That is what I mean ...the ubuntu-sdk-15.04-dev
[14:52] <ogra_> right
[14:52] <ogra_> we have never seeded it ... i wonder why
[14:53] <ogra_> the last cycles we simply dropped the -dev on release day
[14:53] <mcphail> Surely the default framework for an upcoming release should be stable? Unstable frameworks should target release+2
[14:54] <mcphail> An app should be stable on the day of OS upgrade
[14:54] <ogra_> the vivid framework (15.04) goes stable on release day
[14:55] <mcphail> ogra_: yes - but if you are trying to tidy your app up for release, you don't get a stable target until after the event
[14:55] <ogra_> the point is that you might want to work on a new version of your app that should use the 15.04 framework ... with the -devX options you had that ability
[14:56] <ogra_> mhall119 did that for uReadit last cycle i think
[14:56] <mcphail> The -dev option may be fine for a couple of months, but when you're a few weeks from release the target should be stable
[14:57] <nik90> I have noticed several people incorrectly targetting the ubuntu-sdk-15.04 framework..I think this confusion exists because people who use the new qmake project type require the 15.04-chroots to build their project and also incorrectly assume that they should target the 15.04-framework
[14:57] <mcphail> That's how google do it: the stable SDK is release a few weeks before the OS upgrade
[14:57] <nik90> personally I have no idea why ubuntu-sdk-15.04-dev framework never came up
[14:57] <nik90> as a result the online docs are completely missing the new list item documentation which is offered in Ubuntu.Components 1.2
[14:58] <bzoltan_> nik90: please note that there is _NO_ ubuntu-sdk-15.04 in the IDE ... it is ubuntu-core-15.04
[14:59] <nik90> bzoltan_: yeah i meant to type "they were targetting ubuntu-core-15.04"
[14:59] <bzoltan_> nik90: and we push out a quikc fix to disable the core fw in the IDE
[14:59] <LangeOortjes> All these internal affairs aside, am I correct in assuming that for now there's no way to test an app developed with Ubuntu.Components 1.2 on a device?
[14:59] <nik90> LangeOortjes: incorrect
[14:59] <bzoltan_> nik90: I know it was confusing,sorry for that
[14:59] <nik90> LangeOortjes: you can use Ubuntu.Components 1.2 with the 14.10 framework on a devel-proposed image
[15:00] <nik90> LangeOortjes: the ideal logical way should have been Ubuntu.Components 1.2 + 15.04-framework + devel-proposed image...but since the 15.04-framework does not exist, you stick to 14.10
[15:05] <LangeOortjes> nik90, thank you
[15:05] <LangeOortjes> success
[15:07] <LangeOortjes> turned out my issue was not related to Ubuntu.Components 1.2 not being available but rather due to QtQml.Models hot being available
[15:40] <davmor2> mzanetti: on mvm on vivid if you try and tap the play pause button sometimes the indicators will zoom down instead it still pauses the game but it is a little odd have you seen that?
[15:49] <mzanetti> davmor2, no... haven't seen that
[15:50] <mzanetti> and atm a bit trouble to understand what you mean
[15:51] <davmor2> mzanetti: I'll grab a video in a minute
[16:04] <davmor2> mzanetti: http://people.canonical.com/~davmor2/video20150401_160113561.mp4
[16:10] <mzanetti> davmor2, interesting... looks like the panel accepts input even though it is hidden behind the app
[16:11] <mzanetti> davmor2, can you reproduce this with other fullscreen apps?
[16:11] <davmor2> mzanetti: I'll have a play after meetings are out of the way
[16:24] <aquarius> blimey. got a go+qml app to compile and it was easy :) Now I need to, er, learn some go rather than just pasting in code from the web :)
[16:53] <davmor2> mzanetti: so I can reproduce it with gallery
[16:54] <mzanetti> davmor2, looks like a unity8 bug
[16:54] <mzanetti> davmor2, can you report please
[16:54] <davmor2> mzanetti: I'll go blame Saviq
[16:54] <mzanetti> obviously
[16:54] <davmor2> :D
[16:58] <mhall119> ogra_: No, I always used the frameworks available on phone images
[16:58] <ogra_> ah
[16:58] <mhall119> ogra_: currently there is no 15.04 framework on the phones or in the store, only the SDK seems to think such a framework exists
[16:59] <mhall119> bzoltan_: ^^ we either need to get this 15.04 framework (or a -dev version of it) on the vivid phone releases, or drop it from the SDK, it's causing confusion
[16:59] <ogra_> mhall119, yes, we're fixing that
[16:59] <mhall119> cool :)
[16:59] <ogra_> mhall119, i talked to pmcgowan about it today
[16:59] <mhall119> perfect
[16:59] <mhall119> it was on my list for a couple of days now, just hadn't gotten to it :)
[17:00] <bzoltan_> mhall119: to be precise... no :) the SDK does not show ubuntu-sdk-15.04 framework... it shows ubuntu-core-15.04 and the list comes from the app store. So it is not gard coded in the SDK
[17:00] <ogra_> we'll need someone to take the responsibility for it ... the guys that did it before are all busy in other projects now
[17:00] <pmcgowan> mhall119, its defined int he store
[17:00] <mhall119> bzoltan_: ah, right, I remember that now....
[17:00] <pmcgowan> we need to fix the 15.04 fw for qml etc
[17:00] <mhall119> pmcgowan: only the core one, which probably shouldn't be available in the SDK
[17:00] <pmcgowan> mhall119, until it should :)
[17:01] <bzoltan_> mhall119: the change to hide the core fw is already migrating to the archive
[17:01] <mhall119> core == snappy right?
[17:01] <pmcgowan> yeha need to think about that too, maybe a display tag or something
[17:01] <mhall119> bzoltan_: ok, thanks
[17:01] <bzoltan_> mhall119: yes
[17:01] <pmcgowan> mhall119, yeah and sdk will do snaps "soon"
[17:01] * mhall119 looking forward to it
[17:01] <pmcgowan> but core probably not relevant
[17:01] <pmcgowan> so an issue indeed
[17:02] <bzoltan_> mhall119: pmcgowan: yes, the snap and scope support are the next in the queue
[17:03] <bzoltan_> mhall119: pmcgowan: who do we need to bribe to create 15.04 frameworks?
[17:03] <mhall119> mvo or whomever is managing click these days, probably beuno to get an app-specific one in the store
[17:04] <pmcgowan> bzoltan_, I want to think it through, we also need a fix in the images
[17:04] <pmcgowan> will move to top of list, was an oversight
[17:04] <pmcgowan> since our fw guy went off to snappyland
[17:05] <bzoltan_> pmcgowan: mhall119: The click side i can fix, it is a no brainer, but I have no access to extend the store list.
[17:05] <pmcgowan> bzoltan_, is the ubuntu shape in vivid a newer implementation than the one in rtm?
[17:05] <bzoltan_> pmcgowan: yes
[17:06] <pmcgowan> bzoltan_, looking at a bug thats making me wonder if could be related
[17:06] <pmcgowan> https://bugs.launchpad.net/tangxi/+bug/1436094
[17:06] <pmcgowan> the avatar icons in the contact list are kinda screwed up, and they are ubuntu shapes
[17:07] <pmcgowan> but we dont see this anywhere else
[17:08] <bzoltan_> pmcgowan: I get loicm_ on it
[17:08] <pmcgowan> bzoltan_, not sure if its the app or what
[17:12] <beuno> bzoltan_, the store is quick and easy, many of us have access to do that
[17:12] <beuno> once its on the devices, of course
[17:13] <bzoltan_> pmcgowan: The new shapes did not cause any visual regression when I landed it... everything looked normal. I will check it out with zsombi (he has device) and with loicm_
[17:14] <bzoltan_> beuno: The fix for qtc to hide the core fws is on its way, but it was a bit early to put the core fw to the store interface imo
[17:17] <beuno> bzoltan_, the store is the store for all the ubuntu things, not just the phone :)
[17:18] <bzoltan_> beuno: I know .. but we have few hundred customers who we do not want to confuse :) and we just did
[17:19] <bzoltan_> anyhow, the fix is on ots way
[17:21] <beuno> bzoltan_, pmcgowan, right, so I think this opens up a conversation on how we'll deal with this explosion of devices
[17:22] <pmcgowan> beuno, but there is no explosion of frameworks right?
[17:23] <loicm_> bzoltan_, pmcgowan: never seen such a "distortion" in the shape, but the way it looks it's very likely a bug in there
[17:23] <loicm_> bzoltan_, pmcgowan: adding that to my tasks
[17:23] <pmcgowan> loicm_, thanks, I don't see it anywhere else so its curious
[17:23] <bzoltan_> loicm_: I love you man, thanks
[17:24] <mhall119> pmcgowan: right, if anything we didn't create enough frameworks (we should have introduced an ubuntu-sdk-15.05-dev1 when Ubuntu.Components 1.2 was introduced)
[17:24] <pmcgowan> mhall119, indeed, I thought we did
[17:24] <ogra_> i think we did +
[17:25] <ogra_> but we didnt add it to the image
[17:25] <ogra_> in the past loic did that ...
[17:25] <ogra_> but then snappy ate him
[17:26] <beuno> pmcgowan, there will be, yes, given Snappy is very basic and will be extended by frameworks
[17:27] <pmcgowan> beuno, ah right I see
[17:27] <ogra_> this will be so much fun to switch to snappy as a base for the phone one day ....
[17:27] <ogra_> soring all these frameworks ... making smooth upgrades work ...
[17:27] <ogra_> *sorting
[18:19] <mhall119> Mirv: you still around?
[22:26] <akiva-thinkpad> zbenjamin, ping
[22:26] * akiva-thinkpad thinks hes probably sleeping
[22:26] <akiva-thinkpad> !ping
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[05:18] <pitti> good morning
[08:29] <pitti> cking: good morning!
[08:29] <cking> hi there
[08:30] <pitti> cking: I read through the logind code a bit and now have a local build with debugging enabled; could we do another round of ssh?
[08:31] <cking> pitti, sure, let me get the machine up and running, it will take a few minutes
[09:19] <peat-psuwit> I'm compiling pulseaudio for armhf on amd64 using chroot and qemu-arm-static. But thread-mainloop-test, thread-test and sigbus-test fail. Any advice?
[09:23] <sidi> I've got a ubuntu package that contains a "ubuntu-patches" folder on top of the usual "debian/patches". What am I to do with it? Is there a way to integrate the outcome of those patches with quilt? i.e. quilt push obviously doesn't apply those patches, but i dont wanna have to apply them to work on my package, and then unapply them to generate clean diffs for my own patches. I'm also curious how they're handled when automatically building packages
[09:24] <rbasak> sidi: why aren't these patches in a place where quilt maintains them?
[09:31] <sidi> rbasak, i have no idea. i'm actually here to understand whether that is a normal thing or an issue with that package
[09:31] <sidi> it's lp:ubuntu/vivid-proposed/gpaste, for the record
[09:33] <rbasak> sidi: I've not seen that before. Looks like upstream is keeping those files around - not the Debian maintainer.
[09:35] <sidi> rbasak, oh, right! thanks for checking up. interestingly the package doesn't build (syntax errors on the Makefile which I suspect are linked to those 2 patches not being applied)
[09:35] <rbasak> sidi: it's currently built on Vivid. You mean it fails to rebuild now?
[09:40] <sidi> rbasak, hm you're correct. bzr bd -- -b works, but ./autogen.sh && ./configure && make doesn't.
[09:40] <sidi> i'm not a debian/ubuntu packager so i don't understand what exactly builddep or debuild do differently
[09:41] <sidi> i'm starting to suspect the app just has a buggy configure.ac, missing dependencies though
[09:41] <cjwatson> The entry point used by debuild etc. is debian/rules, not directly via ./autogen.sh etc.
[09:41] <sidi> i did have to install one more builddep (appdata-tools), and it seems the ubuntu-patches remove that dependency for old ubuntus but are unapplied by default
[10:29] <LocutusOfBorg1> good morning developers!
[10:30] <LocutusOfBorg1> pitti, how is going the systemd progress? I see it going nice, I hope to have it in vivid ;)
[10:30] <pitti> hey LocutusOfBorg1
[10:30] <LocutusOfBorg1> I'm using it since a month for my embedded yocto sytems and I LOVE it :)
[10:31] <pitti> LocutusOfBorg1: looks ok so far; I'm crawling through the bugs, but we are now at the level of "happens in rare circumstances and needs lots of debugging"
[10:31] <LocutusOfBorg1> I hope you won't revert the change for vivid
[10:31] <pitti> so far nobody asked for that
[10:31] <LocutusOfBorg1> wonderful! I see the last debian rc have been squashed
[10:31] <pitti> it has certainly been a lot of pain, and I'm grateful for the vivid testers for bearing with it
[10:32] <LocutusOfBorg1> I'm also testing vivid right now
[10:32] <LocutusOfBorg1> I don't bother unless I see bugs :)
[10:34] <LocutusOfBorg1> BTW pitti I have an eth.network file, how can I say "try udhcpc and if DHCP fails take this ipv4 address?"
[10:34] <LocutusOfBorg1> this is the file https://github.com/gumstix/meta-gumstix-extras/blob/dizzy/recipes-core/systemd/files/eth.network
[10:34] <LocutusOfBorg1> maybe you can give me a pointer, adding Address below doesn't work
[10:36] <pitti> LocutusOfBorg1: sorry, I haven't done anythign with networkd yet, I'm afraid; can you try asking in #systemd?
[10:36] <LocutusOfBorg1> yes, I'll debug something more and then ask :)
[10:36] <LocutusOfBorg1> thanks
[10:42] <LocutusOfBorg1> question: is it normal that "reboot" on vivid doesn't require sudo anymore?
[10:42] <LocutusOfBorg1> pitti, ^^^
[10:42] <LocutusOfBorg1> :)
[10:43] <pitti> LocutusOfBorg1: if you are in a local desktop session, there's a polkit rule which allows that
[10:44] <pitti> pkcheck --action-id org.freedesktop.login1.reboot --process $$
[10:44] <LocutusOfBorg1> thanks!
[10:44] <pitti> this requires a "challenge" (i. e. entering your admin password) on remote sessions, but is currently allowed locally it seems
[10:45] <pitti> similar to mounting usb sticks, setting the clock, etc.
[10:45] <pitti> (or rebooting through the indicator)
[10:46] <LocutusOfBorg1> thanks
[11:29] <mdeslaur> pitti: thank you very much for fixing my nfs at boot, and the subsequent shut down hang! Very appreciated!
[11:33] <pitti> mdeslaur: *beam* good news!
[11:33] <mdeslaur> :)
[12:18] <Riddell> dpm: why is launchpad still recommending translating utopic a month from releasing vivid?
[12:18] <dpm> Riddell, probably because we did not change the translation focus, let me check
[12:20] <dpm> Riddell, fixed. Seems like we hadn't changed the translation focus when we opened vivid translations a while ago
[12:20] <Riddell> dpm: lovely thanks
[12:20] <dpm> np
[12:26] <seb128> "Object: <lp.registry.model.personproduct.PersonProduct object at 0x2afba3735ad0>, name: u'pin-dbusmock'"
[12:26] <seb128> thanks lp, useful error :p
[12:27] <seb128> oh, somebody deleted the merge request while I had it open that's why it couldn't post on it
[13:11] <pitti> infinity, didrocks: FYI, the systemd test regression (most of it) is now tracked down, I filed bug 1439191
[13:12] <pitti> worked around by running the test with -vga vmware, like vivid's qemu does now by default
[13:12] <didrocks> pitti: great!
[13:13] <pitti> simple to reproduce in qemu
[13:14] <infinity> pitti: Yay.
[13:14] <pitti> it'll still fail on another test, didrocks is bisecting
[13:14] <pitti> that looks like an actual regression
[13:14] <pitti> so, yay tests
[13:15] <infinity> Now to get the kernel people to fix their tests on i386...
[13:15] <infinity> apw: ^
[13:15] <apw> infinity, those look to be a testbed failure on i386, and are being rerun
[13:16] <infinity> apw: I noticed the re-run, I didn't look at the logs, just remembered that it's been failing on i386 for ages.
[13:16] * infinity reads a log.
[13:16] <apw> apw, the results i looked at looked like success up to that point, though it may yet fail again genuinly
[13:17] <apw> the logs having no summary near the end does not help any
[13:17] <infinity> Indeed, lots of hunting with find.
[13:18] <infinity> pitti: I don't suppose autopkgtests have a concept of "why"?
[13:18] <infinity> pitti: As in, "I was triggered because of a change in package-foo".
[13:18] <pitti> infinity: not at the moment with our really crappy setup
[13:19] <apw> infinity, to my reading all the ' END ' statements are ' END GOOD ' so i think that means it would have been green
[13:19] <pitti> quite easy to do once we move to something sensible with AMQP
[13:19] <infinity> pitti: These kernel build tests are completely pointless (and take forever) for kernel uploads themselves, but very necessary for toolchain uploads, for instance.
[13:19] <pitti> apw: right, it failed on copying the results back up, which sometimes triggers this odd tar EOF error which I've never been able to reproduce (but it happens quite frequently on the CI machines)
[13:20] <pitti> infinity: right, this is known and has been discussed a lot of times; but the current setup is fragile enough as it is, I really don't want to spend a lot of time changing and breaking it
[13:20] <infinity> Yeah, fair enough.
[13:20] <pitti> heck, in that time I could probably get my AMQP prototype to work reliably enough :)
[13:21] * apw hands pitti a doughnut as encouragement
[13:23] <infinity> Mmm, doughnuts.
[13:25] <infinity> pitti: I'm well aware that the current autopkgtest infra is far from what you'd like it to be, which is why I try to refrain from talking shit about it. :)
[13:25] <infinity> pitti: But once it morphs into what it's meant to be, I might have some input into all the ways it sucks. :P
[13:27] <pitti> infinity: oh, yes :) (there are lots of ways indeed..)
[13:28] <infinity> pitti: Mostly, my obvious complaint (if we ignore Jenkins) is just reliability. Comparing to our buildd network, which rarely (at least, in a comparison of failures per number-of-builds) needs attention, this all seems rather fragile.
[13:29] <pitti> right; the biggest machinery related ones that I see are (1) that tar EOF thingy, (2) apt hash sum mismatches, and (3) uninstallable packages
[13:29] <pitti> and there are tons of flaky tests which need regular retries
[13:30] <infinity> pitti: Yeah, flapping tests are obviously not your fault, though maybe we should try to build a small army of people to drive that closer to zero so we can actually have a good clean baseline for future comparison.
[13:32] <pitti> we do have some defence against (2) by retrying automatically once after 15 seconds, but that might need some improvement too
[13:32] <pitti> as for (3), that's a case for detecting that from the logs and auto-retrying half an hour later or so
[13:33] <pitti> some kind of "transient error" result code which makes adt-britney just retry in the next run
[13:35] <infinity> pitti: Yeah, I was going to suggest auto-retrying for known infra bugs. Wasn't sure if you, like me, once held the opinion that forcing yourself to manually intervene reminds you that there's a bug that needs investigating, but as I get older and wiser(?), I'm realising that's BS, and all it does is train me to do the busywork every day, not fix the bug.
[13:35] <pitti> infinity: yeah, that sounds terribly familiar
[13:36] <pitti> I tried to investigate and understand the tar EOF bug like 5 times and wasted a day or so on that in total, but I'm none the wiser
[13:36] <pitti> and it won't actually matter for the nova/cloud tests that CI is now running in parallel
[13:37] <pitti> ev: ^ incidentally, how does that go?
[13:40] <pitti> lol @ https://com.google/
[13:46] <pitti> apw: oh, you were saying you use libvirt under systemd? I wondered how urgent bug 1312304 was
[13:47] <apw> pitti, i am using it, it seems to work as is, it may be one of the slownesses, but not exploding m
[13:47] <apw> me
[13:47] <pitti> apw: ack, thanks
[13:59] <ev> pitti: the majority of the work is done, but proving that this doesn't introduce failures that weren't present in the Jenkins adt infra remains: https://trello.com/c/MelDDUma/193-2-ue-staging-testing-infrastructure-to-cope-with-increased-load-of-tests
[13:59] <ev> It's at the top of the proposed backlog. If this is important to QA and Foundations, I ask that you send your stakeholder reps to our backlog meeting Thursday the 9th to lobby for it.
[13:59] <ev> ^ Ursinha heads up
[14:01] <infinity> ev: I'm all for proof and testing, but I'll also cautiously say that it would take deliberate action to create something worse than the current shoestring and bubblegum infra. :P
[14:01] <ev> lol
[14:01] <ev> can I rise to that challenge?
[14:02] <infinity> I'd prefer you didn't.
[14:02] <ev> hahaha
[15:25] <cjwatson> pitti: Hm, so I tried running a cleanup on the ddebs a-f database in the same kind of way that Launchpad now does regularly to maintain reasonable performance, and this doesn't look good: http://paste.ubuntu.com/10718827/
[15:25] * cjwatson tries for rtm
[15:26] <pitti> cjwatson: hmm, I remember clearly that I worked on vacuuming the database the other day, but I indeed got some errors there
[15:26] <pitti> which is why I didn't roll it out
[15:26] <pitti> but not these errors
[15:27] <cjwatson> Heh, for RTM this gives me an 8K resulting DB, I might not have got it quite right
[15:27] <pitti> some weird bdb "out of memory"-like message
[15:27] <pitti> cjwatson: I tried with http://ddebs.ubuntu.com/clean.conf
[15:27] <cjwatson> This screams of "time to nuke the db and start from scratch" to me
[15:28] <pitti> yeah, can do; it takes ~ 1.5 days
[15:28] <pitti> but oh well
[15:29] <cjwatson> pitti: OK, there's definitely something wrong with this cleanup procedure, http://paste.ubuntu.com/10718856/
[15:38] <cjwatson> Ah, needs to be run in the right directory because the paths in the cachedb aren't absolute, unlike in LP
[15:38] <cjwatson> (Which is a bit of a timebomb really ...)
[15:42] <seb128> barry, hey, is https://errors.ubuntu.com/problem/44254dfe1ed3a5acdec9c4e4172b009e905dcd89 still on your todolist? it seems the issue started with your python3 port of oneconf
[15:43] <cjwatson> pitti: I'll see if the BDB repair tools can fix it ...
[15:43] <barry> seb128: yeesh. first i've seen of it. no clue what's going on but it looks like it's going to be a python3-apt problem perhaps
[15:43] <cjwatson> pitti: For RTM, this reduces the DB size from ~44MB to ~15MB. You do want the more complete architecture list from my paste, though (it should be the union of all architectures in any published suite)
[15:44] <pitti> cjwatson: ack, thanks
[15:44] <pitti> cjwatson: updated clean.conf
[15:44] <barry> seb128: i'll keep a tab open on it, but no promises. i'm fully saturated trying to finish up worky-work before pycon next week. ;)
[15:45] <cjwatson> pitti: This is all yak-shaving because I was looking for a plausible place to stick a timestamp of the BPPH threshold from LP :)
[15:45] <pitti> cjwatson: if it's broken, just rm'ing it shoudl suffice, the next cron run will then run for ages and rebuild it
[15:45] <cjwatson> pitti: (I don't think I need to keep a separate map of which ddebs it already knows about, though; whether they exist in pool should be sufficient)
[15:46] <cjwatson> pitti: You don't feel like moving ddeb-retriever to a real project so that I can use MPs, I suppose?
[15:47] <pitti> cjwatson: we can do that; it just never came up so far
[15:47] <pitti> but it seems it might live a whole lot longer still :)
[15:48] <teward> under the current freeze an upload which just enables position independent building for a given application wouldn't get past freeze would it?
[15:49] <pitti> cjwatson: (can't do it right now, sorry; can on on Tuesday, unless you or someone else beat me to it)
[15:49] <pitti> I'll be on vac tomorrow and national holidays Fri/Mon FTR
[15:49] <cjwatson> pitti: Sure, not a desperate rush. I'll be on nat holiday Fri/Mon and vac Tue
[15:56] <seb128> barry, thanks
[16:07] <cjwatson> Ah, good, db5.1_dump | db5.1_load fixed the ddebs a-f cache
[17:48] <doko> http://bugs.python.org/issue23842
[18:32] <ovidiu-florin> hello world
[18:33] <ovidiu-florin> doko: are you around?
[18:46] <teward> so, stupid question, but i'm getting FTBFS on nginx on ppc64el and powerpc because a change (from Debian) to enable PIE isn't recognized, has anyone seen this before and got an idea for how to fix?
[18:50] <sarnold> teward: can you pastebin the relevant compile line and error message?
[18:52] <teward> sarnold: http://paste.ubuntu.com/10719958/ <-- errors from the build logs (this was the latest upload, and using the changes as-is from Debian). http://paste.ubuntu.com/10719968/ <-- from debian/rules
[18:53] <sarnold> teward: hunh I wouldn'thave expected those to be configure flags..
[18:53] <teward> sarnold: i didn't make the change, Debian did
[18:53] <teward> sarnold: suggestions to fix?
[18:53] <sarnold> teward: maybe that means a newer auto* is needed to provide a newer ./configure ?
[18:53] <sarnold> teward: (that's a wild-ass-guess)
[18:53] <teward> sarnold: considering this is in Vivid, IDK if that'd help
[18:53] <teward> sarnold: this is quite literally the output and information from the builders after the upload - no idea how to resolve
[18:56] <mdeslaur> if it works on other archs, I doubt it needs a new conf*
[18:58] <infinity> teward: There's no way those are configure flags.
[18:58] <infinity> teward: And it's broken on all arches, not just ppc...
[18:58] <teward> infinity: yes i know that
[18:58] <teward> infinity: i'm ahead of you, with a build in local sbuild to try and resolve
[18:58] <teward> (it'll be uploaded to fix the global FTBFS)
[18:58] <teward> infinity: i think someone up in Debian who made the change was drunk
[18:59] <mdeslaur> teward: you upload stuff without building it locally first?
[18:59] <teward> mdeslaur: that was a mistake, yes.
[18:59] <mdeslaur> the archive isn't your ppa
[18:59] <infinity> teward: Probably. I assume he meant to add -pie to ldflags and -fPIE to cflags.
[18:59] <teward> infinity: yes, indeed.
[19:00] <teward> mdeslaur: i misread the diff, assumed they changed the cflags, not configure flags
[19:00] <teward> mdeslaur: hence the failure in my part
[19:00] <teward> (yes it's not a PPA, it was a failure on my part to be thorough)
[19:00] <teward> (so sue me)
[19:00] * infinity sues.
[19:00] * teward counter sues with the argument that everyone makes mistakes and to not berate one person for one occasional mistake
[19:01] * infinity sues harder, and in several jurisdictions.
[19:01] * teward yawns
[19:02] <infinity> Anyhow, it happens. Patiently awaiting the new upload in the queue.
[19:02] <teward> infinity: it'll be there as soon as I berate Debian for being drunk, and my own sbuild schroot to update
[19:02] * teward is raising hell :P
[19:03] <infinity> teward: dpkg-buildflags might be more helpful here.
[19:05] <teward> infinity: mmm... probably. the rules file is set to have a different variable used in the compile time...
[19:06] <teward> debian_cflags:=$(shell dpkg-buildflags --get CFLAGS | sed 's/-O3/-O2/') $(shell dpkg-buildflags --get CPPFLAGS) <-- currently that defines the cflags for building
[19:06] <infinity> teward: Right, so it's already using dpkg-buildflags, you just need to pump up the fancy.
[19:06] <infinity> teward: Note the difference between "dpkg-buildflags" and "DEB_BUILD_MAINT_OPTIONS=hardening=+all dpkg-buildflags"
[19:08] <infinity> teward: That gets you PIE/pie and z,now, the two things noted missing in that bug report.
[19:08] <teward> yep
[19:09] <infinity> teward: So, probably exporting DEB_BUILD_MAINT_OPTIONS=hardening=+all above the current dpkg-buildflags calls would do the trick.
[19:09] <teward> infinity: right, i was about to do that just now
[19:11] <teward> urgh i hate gpg2 >.<
[19:11] <teward> it doesn't remember i unlocked the keys :/
[19:17] <teward> infinity: in the sbuild schroot it seems that it's working and not FTBFSing. going to run the hardening-check against it after build though, because thoroughness
[19:17] <infinity> teward: Good deal.
[19:17] <teward> assuming it doesn't burn my CPU up in the process >.<
[19:22] <teward> urgh, now it's failing on perl
[19:27] <infinity> teward: Testing here to see if it makes sense to me.
[19:27] <teward> infinity: the failure looks like it's in the extras package
[19:27] <teward> god i hate perl
[19:27] <teward> ... have i said i hate perl yet?
[19:28] <infinity> teward: It might just be that the PERL_LDFLAGS bit needs to be less restrictive.
[19:28] <teward> MMM
[19:28] <teward> mmm*
[19:28] <teward> infinity: build logs from sbuild here: http://paste.ubuntu.com/10720164/
[19:28] <teward> LOVELY thing about sbuild: logs are there :P
[19:29] <teward> infinity: please let me know if you have any insights, if it were up to me the third party modules would be gone but it's not up to me since so many users use -extras still
[19:30] <teward> (I can at least say nginx-core would not fail xD)
[19:30] <teward> infinity: any chance the hardening flags caused the failures?
[19:31] <teward> cause without them on ubuntu1, it worked fine apparently (from a build perspective)
[19:33] <infinity> teward: Yeahp, probably. I'm testing a bit here.
[19:33] <teward> infinity: ack.
[19:49] <ovidiu-florin> doko: ping
[19:51] <infinity> teward: Hrm, this is slightly more annoying than I assumed it would be.
[19:52] <teward> infinity: indeed.
[19:52] <teward> infinity: in theory we could *manually* add the -fPIE -pie flag...
[19:52] <teward> infinity: the problem is that -extras has a lot of extra modules that... aren't core
[19:53] <teward> which is why we had to create -core for the MIR
[19:53] <teward> and i think the problem will trace back to the perl module
[19:59] <infinity> ovidiu-florin: Asking what you want to know might be more helpful than sending random pings out into the ether.
[20:01] <ovidiu-florin> infinity: I've been told to talk to doko, that's why I'm not asking
[20:02] <teward> infinity: i'm going to take a wild test and see if this happens with -fPIE added to only CFLAGS and not LDFLAGS - if it builds then great, if not, then we know the perl module is blocking PIE
[20:02] <teward> (if not other hardening flags)
[20:05] <infinity> teward: It's more likely that the perl modules are accidentally getting the PIE cflags, when they're libraries and should be PIC.
[20:07] <teward> infinity: i think it is since -fPIE is being passed in the LDFLAGS
[20:07] <teward> (at least, when i poke it on a Trusty system with that variable, running the command that generates the flags)
[20:11] <infinity> teward: Still playing here. Whee.
[20:12] <teward> infinity: well, stupidly, building with cflags only of -fPIE and not including -fPIE -pie in LDFLAGS seems to make the build succeed, but that doesn't help the perl side
[20:14] <teward> infinity: thanks for the assistance though, it helps having two people attacking the problem xD
[20:19] <teward> infinity: i think PIC and PIE are incompatible with each other because of shared objects...
[20:20] <teward> (I wonder if it's even possible to achieve this cause of the perl parts)
[20:20] <infinity> teward: Yes, I said as much up there.
[20:20] <teward> i missed that sorry
[20:20] * teward yawns
[20:20] <teward> i need sleep i guess :)
[20:20] <infinity> teward: Libraries are PIC, executables are PIE.
[20:21] <infinity> Fundamentally, it's pretty much the same thing, I wish the toolchain were a bit smarter and just turned pie into pic when -shared was specified.
[20:23] <mdeslaur> mmm...pie
[20:25] <teward> infinity: heh.
[20:26] <teward> well i'm running a... hackish... test... :/
[20:26] <teward> locally of course
[20:26] <teward> i hate hackish solutions though :/
[20:27] <teward> nice clean solutions, they work better... :/
[20:28] <infinity> Hrm. I did something that built, but I'm not convinced it should have.
[20:29] <infinity> And still didn't link the nginx binary properly anyway.
[20:30] <teward> i don't think there's a clean method given Perl
[20:30] <teward> but we'll see, i'm curious if this thing i just did builds.
[20:31] <teward> it's still updating the schroot for the build deps heh
[20:31] <teward> infinity: i'd like to see what you did, if only to satisfy curiosity
[20:31] <teward> (kinda curious how you tested the linking too)
[20:32] <infinity> teward: I'd rather do something less buggy first. The linking failure clearly pointed at me being dumb. ;)
[20:32] <teward> heh
[20:32] <teward> infinity: ok. well again, i dont' want to detract from your likely busy schedule, but I do appreciate the help :)
[20:32] <infinity> teward: I need a distraction sometimes.
[20:32] <teward> heh
[20:35] <teward> infinity: i'm up to my 'hope it doesn't fail again' state :/
[20:38] <infinity> There we go, that went better.
[20:38] <teward> infinity: mine built as well, question i had was how did you test linking of the binaries.
[20:38] <infinity> teward: hardening-check
[20:38] <teward> ... wow sbuild didn't put the .debs :/
[20:38] <teward> infinity: well it'd be nice if sbuild had KEPT the .debs :/
[20:38] <infinity> teward: http://paste.ubuntu.com/10720546/
[20:39] <infinity> teward: That worked for me.
[20:39] <infinity> teward: With these results: http://paste.ubuntu.com/10720549/
[20:39] <teward> infinity: that's effectively what I do but slightly different, I export +all,-pie and then add -fPIE to the debian_cflags separately
[20:39] <teward> (per the manpage explaining what buildflags adds for +pie)
[20:40] <infinity> teward: Needs to have -pie in ldflags, though, or it won't actually link pieishly.
[20:40] <teward> mmm good point
[20:40] <infinity> teward: -fPIE just sets some CPP defines.
[20:40] <teward> infinity: OK, i'll use yours, if you don't mind.
[20:40] <infinity> teward: Be my guest.
[20:40] <teward> want credit?
[20:40] <teward> this is ultimately going up to Debian too
[20:40] <infinity> Don't care. My name's all over the place.
[20:40] <teward> cool
[20:42] <teward> infinity: could we do what you did with line 28 in that diff on line 23 instead?
[20:42] <infinity> teward: If you wanted to make it entirely upstreamable (or moreso), there's some flag-mangling in the perl setup bits, they already sed out some CFLAGS, wouldn't be unreasonable to sed out -fPIE and -pie as well from CFLAGS and LDFLAGS.
[20:43] <infinity> teward: No, doing it on line 23 entirely defeats the purpose.
[20:44] <infinity> teward: The build (except the perl modules) *must* have -pie in LDFLAGS.
[20:44] <teward> infinity: ok
[20:47] <infinity> teward: You might want to test that it actually works built this way, mind you. :P
[20:48] <infinity> It load enough to tell me I don't have a config file at least.
[20:48] <teward> infinity: it's the perl module, I have no use case to do a thorough test
[20:49] <teward> the only reason it's included is because 'highly demanded'
[20:50] <teward> i'll run standard testing though, with default site setups, etc.
[20:50] <teward> but that's a given test
[20:50] <teward> ... i need a vivid vm :/
[21:20] <slangasek> infinity, chrisccoulson: I just got the firefox landing page in Turkish now
[21:21] <sarnold> not arabic?
[21:21] <slangasek> infinity, chrisccoulson: that's not a setting in my browser; firefox doesn't appear to have been upgraded here since March 6; it previously was working just fine in English
[21:21] <slangasek> sarnold: nope
[21:22] <slangasek> just hit refresh and now it's in English again
[21:22] <bkerensa> slangasek: what version of FF?
[21:23] <slangasek> bkerensa: the current version in the archive
[21:23] <chrisccoulson> I thought we'd established that this was a bug with the startpage?
[21:24] <slangasek> chrisccoulson: was that established? It certainly seemed that way to me but I got the impression not everyone was convinced. If it is a bug in the start page, where should I report that?
[21:24] <chrisccoulson> slangasek, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-start-page/
[21:25] <slangasek> chrisccoulson: cheers
[21:25] <slangasek> looks like it's reported already, bug #1427844
[21:26] <bkerensa> chrisccoulson: Does Ubuntu's Firefox have a prebundled addon?
[21:26] <bkerensa> chrisccoulson: for the bookmarks and unity stuff?
[21:28] <PartNAS> rww: you in here?
[21:28] <chrisccoulson> bkerensa, yes
[21:29] <bkerensa> chrisccoulson: you know about the upcoming requirement for addon signing I assume? :)
[21:29] <chrisccoulson> bkerensa, yes
[21:29] <bkerensa> chrisccoulson: I'm sure we will have a flag for distros though
[21:29] <bkerensa> distros / esr etc
[21:31] <chrisccoulson> fingers crossed!
[21:35] <bdmurray> tedg: didn't you right write some binary or library instead of calling /usr/share/apport/recoverable_problem?
[22:11] <flexiondotorg> bdmurray, Regarding https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/software-properties/+bug/1434579
[22:12] <flexiondotorg> bdmurray, Looks like multiverse was removed from the repo list when the Ubuntu MATE meta packages were imported and uploaded.
[22:12] <flexiondotorg> bdmurray, I did have multiverse enabled by default.
[22:13] <flexiondotorg> bdmurray, Are you able to do a little sponsoring and update the ubuntu-mate-meta package to add multiverse please?
[22:30] <infinity> flexiondotorg: How would multiverse relate to your metapackages?
[22:30] <infinity> flexiondotorg: Or, rather, if your meta is mangling sources.list, you've done something a bit scary.
[22:31] <flexiondotorg> infinity, I've not done anything scary :) Let me just check...
[22:31] <flexiondotorg> infinity, http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-branches/ubuntu/vivid/ubuntu-mate-meta/vivid/view/head:/update.cfg#L14
[22:32] <flexiondotorg> flexiondotorg, When I was hakc my unofficial version of Ubuntu MATE the line referenced above had 'multiverse' on it.
[22:33] <flexiondotorg> infinity, I was wondering if adding 'multiverse' back in there would enable the multiverse repos?
[22:33] <infinity> flexiondotorg: That won't relate to what's available in sources.list.
[22:33] <flexiondotorg> infinity, OK.
[22:33] <infinity> flexiondotorg: All that does is define which components your seeds should be looking for packages in.
[22:34] <flexiondotorg> infinity, Thanks. Understood.
[22:34] <flexiondotorg> infinity, bdmurray Therefore, until recently virtualbox-guest-x11 could be install via software-properties without manually enabling multiverse. That is no longer the case.
[22:39] <infinity> flexiondotorg: Hrm. So, I have multiverse enabled in a default install here...
[22:39] <flexiondotorg> infinity, So, I've just checked using a daily in a new VM. I have multiverse enabled too.
[22:39] <flexiondotorg> By default.
[22:40] <infinity> And I assume you can select the fancy non-free driver?
[22:41] <flexiondotorg> infinity, I'll double check in this new VM. One sec.
[22:43] <flexiondotorg> infinity, No. Still unable to install virtualbox-guest-dkma via the "Additional Hardware" tool.
[22:44] <flexiondotorg> infinity, See https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/software-properties/+bug/1434579 and the screenshot I've attached there.
[22:45] <infinity> flexiondotorg: Curious.
[22:46] <infinity> flexiondotorg: Grabbing a daily to see this for myself.
[22:46] <flexiondotorg> infinity, Thanks.
[22:48] <flexiondotorg> infinity, I think this started happening around the time Xorg 1.17 landed.
[22:48] <infinity> flexiondotorg: Yeahp, it could be that the driver doesn't support the new xserver.
[22:49] <flexiondotorg> infinity, BTW, Xorg is completely busted for PowerPC :(
[22:49] <flexiondotorg> infinity, Working with upstream...
[22:49] <lathiat> on a totally unrelated note, glibc source (nss) is something special.
[22:50] <lathiat> so much legacy
[22:53] <flexiondotorg> infinity, I cat apt install virtualbox-guest-x11 and it works just fine.
[23:42] <infinity> flexiondotorg: Fun. Okay, can totally reproduce, not sure where the bug lies just yet.
[23:43] <flexiondotorg> infinity, Thanks for looking.
[23:43] <flexiondotorg> Time for sleeping...
[23:43] <infinity> flexiondotorg: It was an excuse to learn something new. I've never looked at this bit before.
[23:43] <flexiondotorg> :)
[23:43] <flexiondotorg> Z Z Z z z z zzzz...
[23:46] <infinity> if page == self.vbox_drivers:
[23:46] <infinity> self.button_revert.set_visible(False)
[23:46] * infinity blinks.
[23:47] <infinity> Oh, totally not virtualbox, just a badly named variable.
[23:56] <infinity> flexiondotorg: Oh, that's why. The dkms driver was pulled into the kernel, things need to change a bit to accomodate this new world order.
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[10:00] <nebuchadnezzar> hello
[10:03] <nebuchadnezzar> I'm generating custom alternate ISO with cdimage&co and I would like to generate a custom live ISO, but cdimage ask for a production/livefs-builders and I don't know where to get it, do you have any hint?
[10:05] <cjwatson> lines in that file look like this:
[10:05] <cjwatson> # PROJECT DIST ARCH BUILDER
[10:05] <cjwatson> # Put more specific matches first.
[10:05] <cjwatson> * * amd64 kapok.buildd
[10:06] <cjwatson> you'd need to set up livecd-rootfs at the other end - there's an ssh trigger script in /usr/share/doc/livecd-rootfs/examples/BuildLiveCD.gz that can be installed as a forced command on the builder
[10:08] <nebuchadnezzar> I looked at cdimage/lib/livefs.py but I'm not sure how it works, it lookup in livefs-builders and run something on that machine, then download the result?
[10:09] <cjwatson> Right
[10:09] <cjwatson> The point is that live filesystems have to be generated on the matching architecture, so that requires a build slave
[10:09] <cjwatson> Though it can be some hack involving localhost if you want, or you can hack livefs.py to run a script locally if the architecture matches
[10:10] <cjwatson> (Which probably ought to be a configuration option in ubuntu-cdimage, really, but it was never something we needed ourselves)
[10:10] <nebuchadnezzar> or I could put localhost in the livefs-builder for the matching architecture ;-)
[10:11] <cjwatson> If you like; you just need a "buildd" user, with /usr/share/doc/livecd-rootfs/examples/BuildLiveCD.gz installed as /home/buildd/bin/BuildLiveCD
[10:11] <nebuchadnezzar> thanks
[10:12] <cjwatson> Oh and I think that needs manually creating a livefs chroot too
[10:14] <cjwatson> I'd probably start by grabbing the chroot from https://api.launchpad.net/devel/ubuntu/trusty/amd64 or similar, unpacking it so that it's rooted at ~buildd/build-trusty-live/chroot-trusty/, and massaging its sources.list into shape
[10:15] <cjwatson> (These days we actually use Launchpad to do the builds)
[10:17] <nebuchadnezzar> thanks a lot, I wonder how other derivatives are doing to build their ISO
[10:19] <cjwatson> All kinds of strange hacks from what I've gathered :-/
[10:20] <cjwatson> If you'd like to add documentation to ubuntu-cdimage of how to set this up along the way, that would be greatly appreciated
[11:52] <nebuchadnezzar> cjwatson: that's an idea, making it more configurable for derivatives could be a great thing too, like having configuration tree with <vendor>/<project>.conf, I actually modify some of the .py files directly
[13:09] <CarlFK> nebuchadnezzar: how RH builds isos: http://videos.pumpingstationone.org/video/38/linux-charcuterie-how-the-linux-sausage-is-made "entire chain of building a distribution"
[13:25] <nebuchadnezzar> wonderful
[13:46] <CarlFK> nebuchadnezzar: oh you said derivatives .. not distros .. but might still be fun to listen to
[13:51] <nebuchadnezzar> sure
[14:19] <_ruben> is there some trick to get full control over partitioning during a preseeded run, like running a script which does all the lvm stuff, etc?
[14:48] <flexiondotorg> cyphermox, I saw you published a new ubiquity in the staging PPA.
[14:49] <flexiondotorg> cyphermox, I've tested it. I guessing you know it has issues?
[14:50] <nebuchadnezzar> _ruben: I personally use a patched hands-off: http://git.baby-gnu.net/gitweb/gitweb.cgi?p=hands-off.git;a=shortlog;h=refs/heads/dad/features
[14:50] <nebuchadnezzar> _ruben: look at commits after “Add base partman recipe auto generation”
[14:50] <nebuchadnezzar> is that what you are looking for?
[14:52] <cyphermox> flexiondotorg: what issues?
[14:53] <cyphermox> it looked like it was working quite well, and not crashing X at all
[14:53] <flexiondotorg> cyphermox, Clicking the "prepare this system" icon on the desktop didn't do anything.
[14:53] <flexiondotorg> cyphermox, I ran the command from the shell. Looks like systemd deps failed to resolve.
[14:54] <flexiondotorg> cyphermox, I'll ge the exact message...
[14:55] <flexiondotorg> oem@oem-VirtualBox:~/Desktop$ oem-config-prepare
[14:55] <flexiondotorg> Failed to set default target: No such file or directory
[14:55] <flexiondotorg> cyphermox, ^^^^^
[15:29] <cyphermox> doh
[15:29] <cyphermox> I forgot to ship a file :)
[15:33] <cyphermox> hmm, I didn't forget to ship it, it got ignored
[15:39] <flexiondotorg> cyphermox, When you cook a new package let me know :)
[15:45] <infinity> cyphermox: Did you commit it? :P
[16:01] <cyphermox> infinity: yes, the problem was that dh_installinit ignores .target files
[16:01] <infinity> Ahh.
[17:00] <cyphermox> flexiondotorg: if you want to try it again ubiquity is all published in my ppa now
[17:01] <cyphermox> DOH
[17:01] * cyphermox sighs
[17:01] <cyphermox> it's still kinda wrong
[18:34] <_ruben> nebuchadnezzar: it might be, still trying to digest what I'm looking at exactly ;)
[18:55] <_ruben> nebuchadnezzar: seems it still revolves around partman, which i was hoping to evade .. then again, perhaps partman has grown since I last researched it and might actually be suited for our various purposes
[19:07] <cyphermox> _ruben: what are you trying to do?
[19:15] <infinity> _ruben: wikimedia has some nice example recipes using lvm that are good learning tools: https://wikitech.wikimedia.org/wiki/Partman_Recipes
[19:19] <_ruben> cyphermox: one of the "gripes" I had with partman, was the inability to control the lvm vg naming (we several standards for those). and most of my "problems" with partman are probably just a matter of not understanding enough of it ;)
[19:22] <_ruben> also, stuff like bind mounts arent/werent an option afaik
[19:22] <_ruben> (whether or not those are a good idea is another story ;))
[19:22] <cyphermox> I see
[19:24] <_ruben> stuff like bind mounts can be fixed post-install relatively easy, but doing during installation would be even cleaner :)
[19:25] <_ruben> writing some post-install task to shovel some stuff around still beats having to partition every server manually (rest of install is handled by preseed already)
[19:26] <_ruben> infinity: that page looks familiar so I likely ran into it during my research. sure offers a nice starting point.
[19:26] <_ruben> perhaps I should just do some trial 'n error configs/installs and see how far I can get with the existing featureset :)
[19:27] <_ruben> and on that note, i'm gonna call it a day for now ;)
[21:27] <flexiondotorg> cyphermox, Just got back online. Will set up a test system here at home and test...
[21:27] * flexiondotorg hugs cyphermox
[21:28] <cyphermox> cool
[21:28] <cyphermox> I'm satisfied with mate now, waiting for a kubuntu install to finish and then I'd be ready for upload unless you come tell me it's broke
[21:29] <cyphermox> also, before you do the upgrade please do systemctl disable oem-config
[21:29] <cyphermox> there shouldn't be a link to it in /etc/systemd/system/multi-user.target.wants
[21:52] <flexiondotorg> cyphermox, Understood.
[21:52] * flexiondotorg needs better hardware at home. This is slow....
[21:58] <cyphermox> hey, so do I
[21:59] <cyphermox> I'm at the point where a fourth computer wouldn't hurt so I can run so hardware tests.
[21:59] <cyphermox> ... though come to think of it, I have a lenovo craptop that might work well enough
[22:09] <flexiondotorg> cyphermox, Once I've test the oem-config stuff is there anything I can do to help with the "restart at end of install" issue/
[22:09] <flexiondotorg> ?
[22:10] <cyphermox> not really
[22:12] <cyphermox> it needs that casper.service be properly convinced to run at the right moment, which seems to be roughly the case (since it does eject and display the message), and for plymouth-{reboot,halt,poweroff} to be convinced to also run at just the right moment, that is, *after* the display-manager is stopped.
[22:13] <cyphermox> and all that is probably going to run after I get back from karate class, I don't intend to miss a fifth week of it :/
[22:14] <flexiondotorg> cyphermox, :)
[22:15] <cyphermox> so I'll be leaving in about 10 minutes :)
[22:15] <cyphermox> probably just enough time to run the oem-config test on kubuntu
[22:15] <flexiondotorg> cyphermox, I'll leave my testing reports here.
[22:17] <cyphermox> ok
[23:04] <flexiondotorg> cyphermox, Still preparing the VM at home. So slow.
[23:04] <flexiondotorg> cyphermox, Past midnight here now. I'll test tomorrow unless you decide it is good to go :)
[23:13] <nebuchadnezzar> _ruben: you could set “partman-auto-lvm/new_vg_name” to get the VG name you want
[23:13] <nebuchadnezzar> found in: http://anonscm.debian.org/cgit/d-i/partman-auto-lvm.git/tree/perform_recipe_by_lvm
[23:42] <flexiondotorg> cyphermox, It was all going so well, then I ended up here - http://imgur.com/hap1Gla
[23:44] <flexiondotorg> cyphermox, I did systemctl disable oem-config prior to adding your PPA and apt-get dist-upgrading.
[23:44] <flexiondotorg> cyphermox, So, not sure if I've not completed the steps correctly.
[23:45] <flexiondotorg> cyphermox, Late here now. So, time for sleeping.
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ubuntu-chat
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2024-05-13T22:11:14.294843
| 2015-04-01T00:00:00 |
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"infinity",
"nebuchadnezzar"
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"channel": "#ubuntu-installer"
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2015-04-01-#ubuntu-ops
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[00:14] <rww> randomly, I note that lucid goes EOL at the end of this month
[00:14] <rww> prepare your party hats
[00:15] <k1l> end of april. or was it end of march already?
[00:15] <rww> it's april in UTC now :P
[00:15] <rww> Wed Apr 1 00:15:54 UTC 2015
[00:16] <k1l> its already 2:15 in here :)
[00:28] <phunyguy> is it a specific day? or just April Fool's day?
[00:29] <bazhang> the day the music died
[00:29] <rww> phunyguy: April 30th
[00:30] <rww> Today is Sweetmorn, the 18th day of Discord in the YOLD 3181
[00:30] <bazhang> I read that as YOLO
[00:36] <phunyguy> ahh I misunterstood
[00:37] <Unit193> The Moon is Waxing Gibbous (89% of Full)
[00:43] <hggdh> "waxing gibbous" sounds like some sort of illness ("I am sorry to say, you have waxing gibbous", and pandemonium starts)
[00:45] <hggdh> and then you know somebody will be sitting shiva for you very soon...
[09:28] <TrojanFon> Hi i have problem with banned static ip
[09:28] <TrojanFon> Anyone can help me ?
[11:44] <k1l_> bazhang: duckey is the one going rounds with the homosexual bash script thingy trying to stirr up something
[11:45] <bazhang> k1l_, he was banned in ##linux for very good reason, I just scrolled up there
[11:45] <bazhang> offtopic ops should have a heads up for him
[11:46] <k1l_> i can image just from the way he behaved in #u
[11:46] <k1l_> *imagine
[11:46] <bazhang> yep
[11:48] <bazhang> zacwalls , very bad news
[11:49] <k1l_> yeah, that name rings the bells
[11:50] <chu> Thanks bazhang
[11:51] <bazhang> gesundheit!
[11:51] <bazhang> err welcome!
[16:16] <k1l_> hi YungPete, how can we help you?
[16:18] <YungPete> I was trying to contact dpm about the ubuntu translation-s meeting scheduled tomorrow at 4pm UTC. Is this happening ? 'cos I can't contact him ?
[16:19] <k1l_> this is the channel for the ubuntu core channel ops team. maybe you better ask in the translation team channel
[16:20] <k1l_> #ubuntu-translators should be the channel
[16:21] <YungPete> He's not answering his pings .. You should know whether or ot , this, http://imgur.com/QGSSYMH is confirmed or naye ?
[16:22] <rww> Ubuntu's IRC team doesn't manage #ubuntu-meeting's schedule.
[16:23] <YungPete> Well I dont know if this is bull or not, just sayin'
[16:24] <Pici> YungPete: He was just talking in #ubuntu-community-team about 2 hours ago, and his idle time is about that long, likely he is off doing other things.
[16:25] <genii> Hm, fridge has the meeting listed for 3pm UTC not 4pm
[16:25] <YungPete> So how should I inquire as o; if this is genuine ?
[16:25] <Pici> Send him a PM and wait.
[16:26] <YungPete> k
[16:26] <YungPete> leaves
[17:50] * elky facepalms
Any1 need help?
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ubuntu-chat
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2024-05-13T22:11:14.300106
| 2015-04-01T00:00:00 |
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"channel": "#ubuntu-ops"
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2015-04-01-#ubuntu-us-oh
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[03:04] <Unit193> Tested out git on LP, niiiiiiiice.
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ubuntu-chat
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2024-05-13T22:11:14.301737
| 2015-04-01T00:00:00 |
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"authors": [
"Unit193"
],
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2015-04-01-#ubuntu-qc
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[23:15] <denis__> je veux enregistrer ma voix
[23:16] <denis__> mais ca ne marche pas
[23:19] <Ankman> avec quel programme?
[23:20] <denis__> enregistrement de son
[23:21] <denis__> Enregistreur de son
[23:21] <denis__> et ca marche pas
[23:21] <denis__> j'essaie de le faire fonctionner
[23:22] <denis__> j'ai un portage Gateway
[23:22] <denis__> oups portable
[23:24] <Ankman> umm
[23:24] <Ankman> arecord somefile.wav
[23:24] <Ankman> apre
[23:24] <Ankman> aplay somefile.wav
[23:25] <denis__> il est écrit
[23:26] <denis__> Enregistré depuis l'entré est Master
[23:27] <denis__> et j'ai rien d'autre
[23:29] <Ankman> on peut entendre quelque chose?
[23:29] <Ankman> apres
[23:29] <Ankman> arecord somefile.wav
[23:30] <Ankman> ^C
[23:30] <Ankman> aplay somefile.wav
[23:30] <Ankman> ?
[23:30] <denis__> non il enregistre meme pas
[23:30] <denis__> je vais sur facebook et j'entends
[23:31] <denis__> et ma cam fonctionne bien
[23:31] <denis__> mais je veux enregristré ma voix ou des sons et cela ne veux même pas.
[23:32] <Ankman> arecord enregistre... low level. si il ne marche pas le probleme est "sous" gnome/kde/whatever
[23:34] <denis__> j'utilise Xubuntu
[23:38] <Ankman> ok.meme
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ubuntu-chat
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2024-05-13T22:11:14.307395
| 2015-04-01T00:00:00 |
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2015-04-01-#ubuntu-no
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[16:12] <Blueking> hva er kanalen for useriøs chat ?
[16:13] <Blueking> liv her da ?
[16:13] <blaamann_b570> Lite, men det er bare å starte :-)
[16:16] <Blueking> hehe et spørsmål finnes det mulighet for å detektere at nettet har gått ned og automatisk 'service networking restart' ?
[16:16] <Blueking> blaamann_b570 ?
[16:21] <blaamann_b570> Har ikke peilig. Du kan jo teste med kommandoer, men saken er vel at det skal detekteres automatisk.
[16:27] <blaamann_b570> Tipper DBUS vil gi deg beskjed. Så kanskje en kan scripte noe med dbus-monitor.
[16:28] <Blueking> dbus ?
[16:37] <hjd> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/D-Bus System som sender meldinger frem og tilbake mellom programmer/prosesser.
[16:39] <hjd> Mulig du kan ta en titt på kildekoden til nettverksindikatoren. Den oppdaterer jo ikonet pluss viser en melding hvis du kobler fra/faller ut av nettverket. Så den må jo nesten lytte på et eller annet...
[20:11] <thiAs> hva er forskejell på sudo apt-get "remove" og "purge" når jeg skal avinstallere ett program?? hvem av dem burde jeg kjøre?
[20:15] <thiAs> vet du Mathias ? :D
[20:16] <hjd> purge fjerner også innstillinger osv
[20:17] <hjd> Fra `man apt-get`: purge is identical to remove except that packages are removed and
[20:17] <hjd> purged (any configuration files are deleted too).
[20:20] <Mathias> purge kverker alt som har med pakken å gjøre, sånn ca
[20:25] <thiAs> aight :)
[20:26] <thiAs> men hvis jeg skal fjerne for eksempel gnome m player. så burde jeg ikke kjøre purge komandoen? for da kan de kansje fjerne kodecs osv?
[20:27] <Mathias> den fjerner alt av configs og sånt
[20:27] <thiAs> eller lønner det seg å alltid kjøre purge kommandoen istedet for remove? sånn generelt
[20:27] <thiAs> ok
[20:27] <Mathias> bruker som regel kun purge når jeg virkelig har rævkjørt noe
[20:27] <thiAs> ok
[20:27] <thiAs> :)
[20:27] <hjd> kodeker er vel som oftest i egne pakker
[20:28] <Mathias> mm
[20:29] <hjd> Hvis du bruker synaptic, så har den en egen kategori for pakker hvor det ligger igjen innstillinger osv. Jeg går utifra dette filteret kommer av pakker som har blitt fjernet med remove, men ikke purget.
[20:30] <hjd> Så hender jeg rydder opp det fra tid til annen når jeg vet det er pakker jeg ikke kommer til å installere på nytt.
[20:30] <thiAs> bruker bare terminalen jeg
[20:30] <thiAs> til å avinstallerer
[20:36] <thiAs> hjd: men da kan man kjøre noen av disse: sudo apt-get autoclean
[20:36] <thiAs> sudo apt-get clean
[20:37] <thiAs> sudo apt-get autoremove
[20:37] <thiAs> sudo apt-get autoclean
[20:37] <thiAs> sudo apt-get clean
[20:37] <thiAs> for å fjerne de pakkene
[20:38] <hjd> Hm... clean tar vel bare cachen, autoremove fjerner installerte pakker, usikker på autoclean
[20:38] <hjd> aha autoclean er som clean, men fjerner kun pakker som ikke er tilgjengelige
[20:39] <hjd> vel, litt kort på autoremove, den fjerner pakker som ble installert som avhengigheter til noe annet, men som ikke trengs lenger
[20:40] <hjd> Så det blir ikke helt det samme.
[20:40] <thiAs> kan kansje kjøre alle 3 sånn av å til? få rydda opp litt ;)
[20:40] <hjd> Det er sikkert mulig å finne pakker som har blitt removet uten å bli purget i terminalen også, jeg vil tro synaptic bare slår opp informasjonen et eller annet sted og viser den, men jeg er ikke sikker på hvor den kommer fra.
[20:41] <hjd> clean er jo grei, autoclean så ut til å være overflødig hvis du har kjørt clean allerede. autoremove er veldig kjekk, men jeg ville dobbeltsjekke lista før du fjerner ting. ;)
[20:41] <thiAs> jeg pleier å kjøre clean, autoclean, og autoremove sånn i ny og ned
[20:41] <thiAs> aha
[20:41] <thiAs> skjønner
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ubuntu-chat
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2024-05-13T22:11:14.320329
| 2015-04-01T00:00:00 |
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"Blueking",
"Mathias",
"blaamann_b570",
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"channel": "#ubuntu-no"
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2015-04-01-#launchpad
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[01:01] <DalekSec> Nice, great job on git support and thanks. \o/
[03:17] <robfrawley> i was as excited as a 8yr old on Christmas morning when I red the Git info in that last discussion - then i saw the background/watermark - you guys 100% pulled off obnoxious on that one
[03:17] <robfrawley> ;-)
[04:02] <wgrant> robfrawley: it'll hopefully be released before the end of April.
[06:53] <robfrawley> wgrant: thanks for the info on that - i can't wait!
[14:58] <tsdgeos> is launchpad borked?
[14:58] <tsdgeos> trying to report a bug i get "Something has gone wrong. We're sorry!" all the time
[14:59] <dobey> seems ok here
[15:00] <tsdgeos> :/
[15:01] <tsdgeos> i lost all that nice test i had written
[15:06] <tsdgeos> damnit
[15:06] <tsdgeos> and now a billion bugs were reported :D
[15:08] <tsdgeos> oh well
[15:08] <tsdgeos> duplicated them
[15:10] <dobey> heh
[16:04] <Raccoon> Happy April 1st :)
[16:16] <teward> cjwatson: stupid question but why isn't the channel +t to lock down those kinds of things
[16:20] <cjwatson> teward: Because it's not a practical problem worth spending effort on
[16:20] <cjwatson> When things like that are not a practical problem, it's normally better to be open so that people can collaborate more effectively
[16:21] <cjwatson> And we don't have to deal with managing access lists etc.
[16:21] <teward> mmm
[16:21] <teward> well on april fools day i disagree
[16:21] <teward> this is where "Open Management" philosophy and "pranks galore" diverge from each other
[16:21] * teward shrugs
[16:21] <cjwatson> You're welcome to, but I've already spent more time arguing with you than I've spent on cleanup. :-)
[16:21] <teward> cjwatson: meh
[16:21] <teward> i call this discussion, not argument
[16:21] <cjwatson> Either way
[16:21] <teward> meh
[16:22] <cjwatson> lockdown has a cost, often hidden
[16:22] <cjwatson> no point if it fails to outweigh the benefits
[16:22] <teward> mmm
[17:07] <KaZeR> hi there
[17:09] <dobey> hi
[17:09] <KaZeR> how can how upload translation templates to launchpad nowadays? trying to use tools from the ubuntu-l10n-tools i'm always getting an http error 500
[17:09] <KaZeR> (i meant, upload via a script )
[17:10] <dobey> i guess with those tools. do you not also see an OOPS ID in the logs when that happens?
[17:18] <cjwatson> Here's the traceback: http://paste.ubuntu.com/10719491/
[17:18] <cjwatson> Not sure why that's turning into a 500 and not a 403 or similar
[17:19] <KaZeR> oh interesting. how did you get that? :)
[17:19] <cjwatson> Server logs
[17:20] <KaZeR> cool.
[17:20] <cjwatson> Anyway, that suggests that the script in question maybe doesn't have credentials with appropriate privileges or similar ...
[17:21] <KaZeR> i did two tests : using translations-lp-upload and trying to script it myself using perl
[17:21] <KaZeR> the credentials i used are the one from my regular account.. i can upload correctly using the web interface, but it's a real pain to do this manually
[17:22] <KaZeR> i made several attempts yesterday ( mostly with translations-lp-upload ) do you have the exact same error with the test i did using my perl script ? i can replay it if it helps
[17:23] <cjwatson> I'm afraid I have to go for dinner, can't look further now
[17:24] <KaZeR> np cjwatson. enjoy dinner!
[17:25] <dobey> KaZeR: is your perl script using an OAuth token and signing the request properly?
[17:28] <KaZeR> i wrote it using mechanize-shell.. as far as i can tell i think it does it, but i'm no oauth expert
[20:54] <KaZeR> cjwatson: are you available now ?
[21:11] <KaZeR> +t folks...
[21:12] <KaZeR> thanks FrogLeg :)
[21:17] <dobey> hi k1l_
[21:17] <dobey> blr: around?
[21:18] <blr> dobey: hi
[21:18] <dobey> blr: ^^ can you take care of this with a banhammer perhaps?
[21:21] <KombuchaKip> lol
[21:21] <KaZeR> dobey: i've reported that in #freenode, it's probably a bot, doing that in a lot of chans. only way out is a +t
[21:22] <teward> they're klined now
[21:22] <blr> ugh sorry everyone, wasn't aware I had ops, or I would have dealt with it.
[21:22] <KaZeR> sweet
[21:23] <teward> blr: you can set a retroactive +b if you want, but you might just want to stay opped for a while
[21:23] <teward> if it's truly a bot attacking, then swtick around
[21:23] <blr> teward: not going anywhere :)
[21:24] <teward> i meant with the op hat on :)
[21:24] <blr> right
[21:25] <DalekSec> Thanks, mquin.
[22:11] <cjwatson> KaZeR: tomorrow during EU working hours
[22:11] <cjwatson> unless somebody else helps in the meantime
[22:24] <KaZeR> ok thanks cjwatson
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ubuntu-chat
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2024-05-13T22:11:14.326973
| 2015-04-01T00:00:00 |
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2015-04-01-#kubuntu
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[00:13] <Viabobed> Anybody active?
[00:16] <Viabobed> (Yells into empty Canyon) Hello Hello
[00:16] <Viabobed> (Echos Back) hello hello....helllo
[00:18] * bprompt drops a pin
[00:23] <Viabobed> I waned to ask you guys something...
[00:23] <Viabobed> in the very quiet chat room named Kubuntu
[00:23] <Viabobed> lol
[00:24] <bprompt> well.. some are, some aren't here
[00:24] <bprompt> I'd be dashing soon myself
[00:25] <bprompt> but you can ask, worse case scenario, it'd echo echo echo
[00:25] <bprompt> heheh
[00:25] <Viabobed> hahaa
[00:25] <Viabobed> yeah
[00:25] <Viabobed> not much to lose
[00:25] <Viabobed> I just wanted to ask her before I jumped into the forums
[00:25] <Viabobed> wanted to know if you guys know how stable Plasma 5.2 is
[00:26] <Viabobed> Is it safe? lol
[00:26] <bprompt> hmm
[00:26] <bprompt> I run 12.04.... so.... and I dont' use plasma per se, since I run lxde as window manager, but from a few folks I've heard..... not as stable thus far
[00:27] <Viabobed> Got it.
[00:28] <Viabobed> I felt like it was a bit risky based on something I read back in September
[00:28] <Viabobed> But it's matured a bit since then.
[00:28] <Viabobed> I'm running Gnome now, on Lubuntu
[00:28] <Viabobed> but wanted to try something more polished
[00:33] <keithzg> I'd say that Plasma 5.2 is decently stable, but still has some rough edges and is definitely not feature complete.
[00:34] <keithzg> That being said, much of what I personally miss from Plasma 5.2 is merely stuff I had back in Plasma 4, so if you're a Gnome or LXDE user you likely shan't notice the missing features, heh.
[00:35] <keithzg> But I really wouldn't install it on 14.10 if you want a polished experience. Wait at least until 15.04 is officially released, and either install the corresponding metapackage (should still be "kubuntu-desktop") once you've upgraded to 15.04, or install Kubuntu 15.04 fresh, Viabobed.
[00:36] <keithzg> If anything, I've only really had trouble with things on 15.04 thanks to my high-DPI screen and the switchover to systemd.
[00:37] <keithzg> If you *really* want a very polished, mature experience, at this rate that Plasma 5 is rapidly maturing I suspect whatever ships with 15.10 will be very solid. But if you can't wait, then do at least wait for 15.04 to be officially released, I'd say.
[01:05] <Viabobed> whoa didn't notice you guys responded.
[01:06] <Viabobed> So Plasma on 14.10 is pretty stable
[01:07] <Viabobed> Does the 15.04 image come pre-loaded with Plasma 5.2
[01:09] <fcomtois> hey guys, does anyone know how to AFP shares using dolphin?
[01:15] <fcomtois> guys?
[03:23] <fcomtois> anyone has experience mounting AFP shares using dolphin ?
[05:04] <frecel> hi
[05:04] <frecel> is anyone awake
[05:04] <frecel> I'm having some critical issues with kwin on 15.04
[05:10] <valorie> frecel__: what issues?
[05:20] <FlameReaper> I cannot see other computers connected to the network via Kubuntu but I can see them when I log in to my Windows partition.
[05:20] <FlameReaper> and access them without much issue.
[05:20] <FlameReaper> what could be the case?
[05:20] <FlameReaper> Dolphin just returns this error: Unable to find any workgroups in your local network. This might be caused by an enabled firewall.
[05:22] <frecel> kwin is crashing for me on 15.04
[05:22] <frecel> I have no window manager right now
[05:23] <fcomtois> does anyone have experience mounting AFP Shares on Dolphin ?
[05:26] <valorie> fcomtois: what is a "AFP" share?
[05:26] <valorie> FlameReaper: where are you looking?
[05:27] <valorie> do you have Samba installed and working?
[05:27] <FlameReaper> valorie: how do I make sure it is?
[05:28] <FlameReaper> also I'm trying to do the usual "navigate to Network in Dolphin >> select Samba Shares >> wait and see"
[05:28] <valorie> In Dolphin, Network > Samba shares > Workgroups
[05:28] <valorie> I see my husband's windows computer in my network
[05:28] <valorie> and I've never done anything to enable Samba
[05:28] <valorie> it Just Works
[05:28] <FlameReaper> I can't
[05:29] <FlameReaper> I do know that I should be able to see "Workgroups" when I select "Samba shares"
[05:29] <valorie> he's not shared anything with me, and he's not logged in, so I don't "see" anything
[05:29] <valorie> hmmm
[05:29] <FlameReaper> but Dolphin keeps returning me some sort of an access error
[05:29] <valorie> !samba
[05:29] <valorie> perhaps there is some help for troubleshooting in those two links
[05:29] <FlameReaper> my laptop doesn't have access problems when in Windows
[05:30] <FlameReaper> and are able to see the computers in the network as it should
[05:30] <valorie> well, this is a laptop, with Vivid beta
[05:30] <valorie> as I said, I never did anything special
[05:31] <valorie> or even looked there before tbh
[05:39] <frecel> I installed awesome so I can use my desktop
[05:39] <valorie> frecel: later, if you want to, you might join #plasma and talk to the kwin devel mgraesslin
[05:39] <valorie> and find out what's going on
[05:40] <valorie> right now the european devels are still asleep
[05:40] <frecel> valorie: is anyone else having issues with kwin right now or is it just me?
[05:41] <kb52> hi
[05:41] <valorie> I've not heard of any, frecel
[05:42] <valorie> what version of kubuntu were/are you using?
[05:42] <frecel> 15.04 haha
[05:42] <valorie> ok, so the beta
[05:42] <kb52> For those looking for a decent backup system, try Kleo it is excellente.
[05:43] <frecel> I installed it so I can file some bugs before the official release, didn't expect things to fail this badly
[05:45] <kb52> Kleo is by carroll.net is a live CD backup and restore running on Ubuntu. But its great if your not wanting to start over all the time when and if you crash your Linux too badly.
[05:45] <valorie> frecel: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kwin
[05:45] <valorie> personally, I like rsync
[05:47] <kb52> It does have a few odd bugs. About the only one is you for some odd reason go have to mount for example my firewire drive, had to be mounted before I could use it to backup to.
[05:47] <kb52> That and the icons on the desktop overlapped each other. But I was able to go past that do a full backup in 30 minutes, and a full restore in 15
[05:50] <frecel> valorie: I think I should find out how to replicate my bug before I submit it
[05:50] <kb52> Well Kleo is the fastest I have seen, and totally GUI and so making it very user friendly. Plus at least you can browse the web, download torrents, and even burn a CD/DVD from the live cd bootup.
[05:51] <valorie> kb52: not really on-topic here however, is it?
[05:51] <valorie> !info kleo
[05:52] <kb52> You just go to carroll.net and can download the iso that is the only place I can find it.
[05:52] <kb52> Its only a bootable cd about 420MB ...
[05:52] <valorie> exactly, so definitely not on topic
[05:53] <valorie> if you would like to see it packaged in Ubuntu, please file a bug asking for it
[05:53] <valorie> until it is available in the repos, it is not on-topic here
[05:54] <valorie> if you like it, please do that
[05:54] <valorie> I've done it a couple of times, and eventually those good applications are packaged
[05:55] <kb52> Well yes I would since it runs in Ubuntu itself. And someone seemed to mention they have damaged their system by installing somethingm, so it is a great tool to get around such disasters much more easily than having to reinstall everything from scratch.
[05:56] <kb52> So how does one get them to get it put onto the repo?
[05:57] <valorie> as I said, file a bug in launchpad
[05:57] <kb52> What topic is this channel? It says Kubuntu support?
[05:57] <valorie> yes
[05:58] <valorie> installing packages from outside the repos is not supported
[05:59] <kb52> I am hoping it gets packaged with several Distros. Right now it is not a package, it is only an .iso file that you can burn to a cd.
[05:59] <fcomtois> valorie: AFP is Apple Filling Protocol
[05:59] <valorie> ah
[05:59] <fcomtois> valorie: it has nothing to do with Samba except that both are file sharing protocols
[06:00] <valorie> hmmm, no apple anything in mty network
[06:00] <fcomtois> lucky you
[06:00] <fcomtois> haha
[06:00] <kb52> Of course it has to run outside from a live CD or USB stick to have any use at all.
[06:00] <fcomtois> we just have some old legacy snow leopard xserves that are pushing out the files
[06:00] <valorie> when I did have a mac, years ago, it was very difficult to network mac <> windows
[06:00] <kb52> I would like to find an application that can play .MKV files with some success.
[06:01] <valorie> before linux existed
[06:01] <kb52> As well as one that will play .3GP with sound as opposed to without sound.
[06:01] <fcomtois> valorie: linux exists since 1993 haha :P
[06:02] <valorie> well, desktop linux then
[06:02] <kb52> But MAC is actually linux, why is it hard. My G3 finds it easy to get along with windows shares.
[06:03] <fcomtois> it works fine with nautilus
[06:03] <fcomtois> but dolphin is having none of it
[06:03] <valorie> kb52: http://askubuntu.com/questions/38268/how-to-properly-play-mkv-files might help
[06:04] <valorie> fcomtois: unsure
[06:04] <kb52> That seems off topic. But I will go look it up.
[06:04] <fcomtois> yeah... I figured it's not something people are very familiar with nowadays
[06:10] <kb52> That only described issues with smplayer itself. It is perhaps dbus errors that creep up preventing programs like VLC to play them, or maybe just bad. The 3gp issue does not matter, I can play them fine when uploaded to facebook and played back from facebook, and the 3GP ones are all from the video camera anyhow.
[06:12] <kb52> Has anyone an idea why my firewire drive decided to mount and unmount itself repeatedly in PC-MAN FM?
[06:13] <kb52> Rebooting fixed it but never seen such strange behaviour.
[06:14] <fcomtois> kb52: it appears that your firewire drive was literally f*cking your computer :P
[06:14] <valorie> !language
[06:15] <fcomtois> *making love
[06:15] <valorie> sigh
[06:15] <fcomtois> american ?
[06:15] <valorie> I believe it is solid that handles your hardware
[06:15] <valorie> sounds messed up though
[06:16] <kb52> Well its kind of like it was in a loop or something. I suspect it was some sort of dbus error, but acted like hardware but wasnt. After full shutdown and restart its fine now.
[06:17] <kb52> Now the big experiment of upgrading 1316 packages and see what trouble I fall into from there.
[06:21] <kb52> Was only doing that is PCMANFM so perhaps something down in that was the reason.
[06:23] <kb52> Well I guess I will go cross my fingers. It is the knoppix machine that is getting all the updates to see if it can handle them or not.
[06:24] <kb52> Going off to beddy bye and let it do its thing, and get out of this machine too.
[06:58] <_puddle_> my wifi has stopped connecting to the network. i can see it , it tries to connect but fails over and over
[06:59] <_puddle_> it connected for a time today but now is gone again
[07:05] <lordievader> Good morning.
[08:00] <darokthar> Hello, since about one week my dolphin and other qt programs take about 1-2 minutes to start. As soon as they are started everything is fine.
[08:02] <darokthar> I've tried deleting ~/.kde which helped. But it's happening again.
[08:02] <darokthar> I tried some googling, but found nothing which solved my problem.
[08:04] <valorie> what version of kubuntu are you running, darokthar?
[08:04] <valorie> deleting rather than moving ~/.kde is a bad idea
[08:05] <valorie> btq
[08:05] <valorie> I mean, btw
[08:05] <darokthar> In fact i did move it.
[08:05] <valorie> cool
[08:06] <Tm_T> I'd rather create new user for such tests instead of mess the whole ~/.kde
[08:07] <valorie> the reason I ask for version is that as of plasma 5, config files are now found in ~/.config or ~/.local
[08:07] <darokthar> I'm running KDE 4.14.2
[08:07] <darokthar> As moving ~/.kde solved the problem at first, it seems to be the right folder.
[08:08] <darokthar> And at least my kwallet is stored in that directory.
[08:08] <darokthar> And all other settings although.
[08:08] <valorie> so perhaps you are running Kubuntu 14.10?
[08:08] <darokthar> Yes
[08:08] <valorie> ok
[08:09] <valorie> so, you could try with a new user, but moving your .kde folder is equivalent to that
[08:09] <valorie> so what you could try is running the slowly-starting applications from the commandline, and watch the output
[08:09] <valorie> and see what is slowing things down
[08:10] <valorie> maybe `dolphin --debug` or so
[08:11] <valorie> you could also search bugs.kde.org for dolphin bugs and see if there are some hints there
[08:11] <valorie> which is what i usually do
[08:11] <Tm_T> darokthar: is the slowness also when trying to log out or shut down?
[08:11] <Tm_T> as in, could it be dbus?
[08:12] <darokthar> Tm_T i rarely do this. I'll have to try.
[08:14] <darokthar> The fun thing is, that gtk apps start normal. Firefox altough starts normal. Kate, okular, dolphin do not...
[08:15] <darokthar> I klicked on logout. But till now nothing happened.
[08:15] <darokthar> Maybe it takes altough a while.
[08:21] <darokthar> The log out does not seem to work at all.
[08:21] <darokthar> I'll start a reboot.
[08:32] <soee> good morning
[08:38] <_puddle_> morning/evening
[09:05] <darokthar> The general startup of kde is altough as fast as always. Even when dolphin and okular are started from the previous session. It is only slow after KDE is up and i try to start an application.
[09:06] <soee> darokthar: define "slow"
[09:06] <soee> and are we talking about KDE4 or Plasma5 ?
[09:07] <darokthar> kde 4.14.2 slow means over a minute to start dolphin.
[09:07] <darokthar> And it seems moving ~/.kde solves the problem. At least for a while.
[09:08] <soee> oh strange
[09:08] <soee> so it might be related to some previous configuration maybe
[09:08] <darokthar> And the problem is only with kde/qt programs. When starting firefox or gtk apps, they start asap.
[09:09] <soee> darokthar: if you start Dolphin form cli, do you have some warnings maybe ?
[09:10] <darokthar> Lets wait
[09:12] <hateball> And do you get the same behavior starting Konsole?
[09:12] <hateball> Dolphin might try and reach some remote hosts you've bookmarked
[09:12] <darokthar> But this would not be true for okular, or kate
[09:16] <darokthar> soee here is the output of dolphin http://pastebin.com/DFnfzpfc Keine Berechtigung translates to "no Autorization"
[09:20] <darokthar> Ok, it seems to be a problem with iptables.
[09:33] <wmp> hello
[09:35] <wmp> i have question, what is it and how to disable this: http://i.imgur.com/CDtMAH0.jpg
[09:38] <soee> wmp: whee do you have it ? on kubuntu ?
[09:38] <wmp> yes
[09:39] <wmp> on locking session
[09:39] <soee> i havent seen it before, maybe something from plasma active
[09:40] <avtolik> hey guys, do you know why kwalletmanager5 is missing from the kubuntu plasma 5 repo?
[09:40] <avtolik> it seems that I need to, so my wifi password gets saved
[10:02] <soee> avtolik: good morning, it seems that there is no kwalletmanager5
[10:03] <soee> there is only kwalletmanager
[10:04] <avtolik> yes, I found this in some forum:
[10:04] <avtolik> Without KWallet, plasma-nm won't save the passwords
[10:05] <avtolik> and indeed, my wifi passwords are not saved
[10:05] <soee> well true
[10:52] <dtcdarkraven> greetings all, after having done a complete format of my system, i attempted to install Kubuntu back onto my system, however the installer seems to crash whenever i attempt to load up via a pendrive. then the loading screen pops up but is completely stuck at the hard-drive icon..
[11:15] <iconic2_> 2
[11:50] <iconic2_> Do you guys want another website to have a irc web client hosted on?
[11:55] <lordievader> iconic2_: What do you mean?
[11:56] <iconic2_> Well I just got paid for some sub contracting work I did a few weeks back and was going to order either a colo or a vps
[12:22] <BluesKaj> Hiyas all
[12:35] <_puddle_> hi BluesKaj
[12:36] <BluesKaj> hi _puddle_
[12:37] <_puddle_> my wifi has stopped connecting to my ap
[12:37] <sniper338> Hallo! :D
[12:38] <_puddle_> it tries over and over but no
[12:47] <s_20> hi! would it be a terrible idea to upgrade 15.04 now already?
[12:47] <lordievader> s_20: It is still a development release.
[12:48] <lordievader> I.e. not recommended.
[12:48] <s_20> so i suppose i should resist the urge to upgrade my work laptop now already
[12:49] <BluesKaj> s_20, it's not ready for the workplace
[12:49] <s_20> that much work happening in the next 3 weeks?
[12:51] <BluesKaj> s_20, think I'd wait at least a few months after the official release before installing it for the workplace
[12:51] <s_20> BluesKaj: really?
[12:51] <BluesKaj> nothing wrong with 14.10 , it's stable and fast
[12:52] <BluesKaj> and still has better features than 15.04 IMO
[12:52] <s_20> BluesKaj: i was looking forward to plasma 5 after having used the kde 4.* series for more than 5 years now ;)
[12:52] <BluesKaj> eye candy isn't everything
[12:52] <lordievader> s_20: In the next 3 weeks it might simply break.
[12:53] <s_20> obviously it isn't, but i think after a few years it's understandablwe if someone wants to see some updated visuals
[12:55] <BluesKaj> s_20, there are all kinds of themes and colours etc available for kde4 , more than you'll ever use
[12:55] <BluesKaj> kde-look.org
[12:55] <s_20> BluesKaj: i think it's no secret there are very few high quality themes available
[12:56] <BluesKaj> that's a matter of taste
[12:56] <s_20> and going on kde-look.org is more like a trip down memory lane these days when it comes to themes, particularly if they haven't been updated since 2010
[12:57] <BluesKaj> even fewer on plasma5
[12:57] <s_20> definitely
[12:58] <s_20> still, i'm looking forward to plasma5 ;)
[12:58] <BluesKaj> well, you do what you want
[13:24] <xennex81> is there a reason why plasma-desktop can take 50% cpu in 14.10?
[13:25] <xennex81> it happens regularly, sometimes after a few minutes into the session
[13:25] <xennex81> i have to fix it by logging out and logging back in
[13:57] <vip> hello there
[13:58] <soee_> hiho
[13:58] <vip> anybody experienced kded5 memory eating?
[13:59] <soee_> someone mentioned it today
[13:59] <vip> oh, great
[13:59] <soee_> vip: 14.10 or vivid ?
[13:59] <vip> vivid, with latest updates
[13:59] <bshah> there are/were bug reports on kde bugzilla..
[13:59] <vip> thank you
[13:59] <soee_> Riddell: ^ this is known i think, iv seen iton rello
[13:59] <soee_> *trello as some recursion goes there ?
[13:59] <vip> hope there is a workaround
[14:00] <vip> (other than alternative desktop manager)
[14:01] <soee_> vip: it works goo for me soe far
[14:01] <soee_> *good
[14:02] <vip> bshah: does you know bug number?
[14:02] <vip> do
[14:03] <bshah> vip: not sure but https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=337674
[14:03] <bshah> oh wait
[14:03] <bshah> its about memory
[14:03] <bshah> ignore me
[14:03] <Riddell> vip: fix on its way, apt remove kubuntu-notification-helper for now
[14:06] <Riddell> hi libregeekingkid
[14:07] <libregeekingkid> Riddell: Hi there
[14:10] <_puddle_> my wifi has stopped connecting to my ap
[14:11] <_puddle_> it tries over and over but no
[14:11] <vip> bshah: thank you
[14:12] <BluesKaj> _puddle_, look in /var/log/syslog for the error
[14:12] <sixtubuntu> hello
[14:13] <sixtubuntu> Any help me? Torrent download error. -> Access denied, leeching forbidden
[14:14] <BluesKaj> sixtubuntu, ktorrent ?
[14:14] <vip> Riddell: thank you
[14:14] <sixtubuntu> this ubuntu, not kubuntu :/
[14:14] <vip> soee_: thanks to you too
[14:16] <BluesKaj> access denie\d, maybe you need to register on that torrent site, and this is kubuntu support
[14:16] <BluesKaj> sixtubuntu, for ubuntu support /j #ubuntu
[14:27] <_puddle_> BluesKaj, not sure what to make of it
[14:28] <_puddle_> seems to say its connecting then losing it over and over
[14:28] <BluesKaj> _puddle_, if you found an error post it in pastebin if it's more then 3 lines long'
[14:29] <BluesKaj> _puddle_, check that network manager is using the correct password etc
[14:30] <_puddle_> it's open. tethering from the phone
[14:30] <_puddle_> italso happens with my usual wifi wifi
[14:31] <BluesKaj> using your phone as a modem ?
[14:33] <_puddle_> hot spot
[14:36] <BluesKaj> sorry, dunno much about phones and the internet
[14:36] <_puddle_> it's just an open wifi ap
[14:37] <_puddle_> currently on it with my raspbery pi
[14:38] <BluesKaj> no matter , I know something about ncomputers and the internet , but not phones
[14:38] <_puddle_> well it connected briefly this evening but won't come back
[14:39] <_puddle_> also when i log in as guest no go
[14:39] <_puddle_> but works booting windows or off a usb
[14:41] <BluesKaj> maybe someone else can help you , sorry i can't
[14:42] <rberg> I would start by looking at the output of 'dmesg' and look for NetworkManager lines in /var/log/syslog to see whats really happening behind the scenes
[14:45] <_puddle_> rberg, can i show you the log?
[14:47] <dtcdarkraven> hello all, ive been having issues installing kubuntu .10 the installer constantly crashes after i boot the usb drive up.., i was wondering if me having an SLI setup could be the couse?.. if not.. what it could be.. and what i can do to properly install kubuntu back onto my system? ( left pc alone, fresh windows install made it go sleepy.. :P, i asked this question before )
[14:49] <rberg> _puddle_: maybe just make sure nothing confidential is in there.. maybe start by 'tail -F /var/log/syslog' and try connecting
[14:51] <BluesKaj> dtcdarkraven, how did you install the iso on the usb?
[14:52] <dtcdarkraven> using the recomended linux live usb creator ( on win )
[14:53] <dtcdarkraven> had it format ( fat32 ) and used 4g of persistance
[14:53] <BluesKaj> there's a live linux usb creator in windows?
[14:54] <dtcdarkraven> haha, yes there is exually its linked on the kubuntu website aswel.
[14:54] <BluesKaj> dtcdarkraven, you don't need persistence
[14:54] <BluesKaj> just fat32
[14:54] <dtcdarkraven> that is true.., but it would allow me to use a live invirement at other places i might decide to use the thumb drive
[14:55] <dtcdarkraven> could it be cousing an issue?
[14:55] <BluesKaj> dtcdarkraven, afaik persistence isn't needed for any of that
[14:55] <dtcdarkraven> what i ment was, use some software i might install on the pendrive later :)
[14:56] <dtcdarkraven> however if it could be cousing issue's.. i have no problem with removing persistance from the pendrive..
[14:56] <BluesKaj> use partitions
[14:58] <dtcdarkraven> allright.., il try to do it without peristance then.., reading on the website from that peace of software it does state "persistance on selected linux" so it might be the cause..
[15:00] <BluesKaj> dtcdarkraven, yes I've read discussions abouthe persistence bug before ,, but never used it myself
[15:01] <BluesKaj> it's a fat 32 problem with the 4G max
[15:01] <dtcdarkraven> BlueKaj, would you have some "literature" about making partitions on a live usb-pendrive ?
[15:04] <BluesKaj> dtcdarkraven, this seems contradictory, but it's all I could find that's relevant http://askubuntu.com/questions/397481/how-to-make-a-persistent-live-ubuntu-usb-with-more-than-4gb
[15:05] <dtcdarkraven> much apreciated
[15:50] <hateball> kwin_x11 crashes for me in 15.04 but #ubuntu+1 doesnt seem very active :|
[15:50] <hateball> it freezes my entire machine for some seemingly random reason
[15:53] <MoonUnit`> this bug turned up last night, might be your problem hateball https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kubuntu-notification-helper/+bug/1434226
[15:54] <hateball> MoonUnit`: hmmm, I am irssing in a VT atm, lets see if I can browse there on my phone
[15:55] <MoonUnit`> temporary fix was to remove kubuntu-notification-helper
[15:56] <hateball> MoonUnit`: ah, nice! I'll give that a go, thanks
[15:57] <MoonUnit`> bug report claims it was fixed 16 minutes ago, no idea when that will be downloadable.
[15:58] <hateball> so far my X session lives
[15:59] <BluesKaj> hateball, next time you freeze try alt-tab, that usually unfreezes the desktop in 15.04
[15:59] <hateball> BluesKaj: It's completely unresponsive when it happens, only managed to even switch to a vtty once
[16:00] <hateball> I'm not even sure what this notification-helper does, I still get notifications in from the tray
[16:00] <BluesKaj> hateball, have you upgraded and dist-upgraded and installed the recommended gpu driver
[16:00] <hateball> even with it removed, that is
[16:00] <hateball> BluesKaj: Yes and yes
[16:01] <hateball> MoonUnit`: Well I've been going longer than I managed before so I guess this was the same bug
[16:01] <BluesKaj> hateball, beta 2?
[16:02] <hateball> BluesKaj: I'm not sure this has a name, I dist-upgrade every one or two days. Anyhow MoonUnit` has already pointed to the bug affecting me
[16:02] <hateball> what a weird thing
[16:05] <hateball> This is what broke it then: 2015-03-31 23:14:35 upgrade kubuntu-notification-helper:amd64 15.04ubuntu2 15.04ubuntu3
[17:06] <MoonUnit`> kubuntu-notification-helper update is now downloadable
[17:09] <vip> great
[17:09] <vip> who needs it anyway?
[17:12] <MoonUnit`> no idea, didn't notice any difference removing it.
[17:19] <lordievader> Supposedly it was giving a memory leak in Vivid.
[17:20] <MoonUnit`> yup caught it last night, machine unusable just after logging in.
[17:22] <lordievader> Sometimes not having an up to date system is usefull ;)
[18:57] <ahoneybun> let me grab one
[19:19] <Erthe> On 15.04 Beta 2, updated kubuntu-notification-helper to 15.04ubuntu4 earlier, and it seems to have resolved a stability issue I had, but I can't get the Alt-F2 run command dialog to appear anymore.
[19:19] <Erthe> Anyone have any hints on how to restore it?
[19:23] <BluesKaj> Erthe, right click on the desktop and choose run command
[19:25] <MoonUnit`> alt + f2 works for me, noticed in shortcuts app alt+space works too.
[19:35] <BluesKaj> yes same here
[23:49] <yofayce> Hey all
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2015-04-01-#upstart
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[09:41] <afournier> hi
[09:42] <afournier> i think i have a leak in upstart, an old version of it 1.6.1 on i686, any known bug about that ?
[09:42] <afournier> root 1 0.0 20.2 684228 682496 ? Ss Feb25 2:34 /sbin/init
[09:43] <afournier> pmap => 80c70000 680804 - - - rw--- [ anon ]
[16:08] <macdabby_> im having an issue with mongo that seems to be related to upstart ... "mongod --config /etc/mongod.conf" works but "service mongod start" fails because it's not loading the config file.
[16:08] <macdabby_> i added an echo to the upstart file and this seems to be what it's executing: mongodstart-stop-daemon --background --start --quiet --pidfile /var/run/mongod.pid --make-pidfile --chuid mongodb --exec /usr/bin/mongod -- --config /etc/mongod.conf
[19:10] <cetex> hm.. any ideas how i should setup an upstart job that can be started without any instance variables set, and which can handle multiple instances as well?
[19:11] <cetex> I need something where an upstart job can be started without setting any extra parameters, and i need to identify this, i then need to be able to create instances of the same job that behaves differently.
[19:28] <cetex> ah.. set an environment variable to something defaultish, use that as instance, then set it to other variables when triggering new events.
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