id
stringlengths 15
40
| text
stringlengths 4
4.04M
| source
stringclasses 1
value | added
stringdate 2024-05-13 22:10:59
2024-05-13 23:05:23
| created
timestamp[s]date 2004-07-05 00:00:00
2024-05-13 00:00:00
| metadata
dict |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|
2015-04-26-#ubuntu-gnome
|
[08:06] <darkxst> mgedmin, try boot passing systemd.log_level=debug as a kernel param, that should make logind provide more info on what is going on with your suspend issues
[08:07] * mgedmin will keep it in mind
[08:07] <mgedmin> (I now need to find a way to reproduce the issue, since a reboot fixes it)
[08:07] <mgedmin> can logind's debug level be changed at runtime?
[08:08] <darkxst> not that I'm aware of
[08:09] <darkxst> but maybe you can edit unit and restart the service?
[08:10] <darkxst> http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/systemd-devel/2013-March/010004.html
[08:11] <darkxst> no idea if that works still though
[08:16] <darkxst> mgedmin, anyway probably fine to reassign to systemd
[08:20] <darkxst> mgedmin, obviously logind switch from being a wrapper to the real thing, with systemd init changes
[17:12] <Snoop> Hello
[17:12] <Snoop> Excited Gnome USer here
[17:13] <Snoop> Whats new in the Vivid Vervet Gnome Version?
[20:19] <hubx> hi there, upgraded to 15.04 and gnome 3.16 (gnome3-staging ppa) today. had to manually install gir1.2-gweather-3.0, gnome-shell complained about Gjs-WARNING **: JS ERROR: Error: Requiring GWeather, version none: Typelib file for namespace 'GWeather' (any version) not found
[20:19] <hubx> but so far gnome 3.16 works like a charm. thanks!
[21:07] <amari> Is this ppa official for gnome 3.16 in vivid? https://launchpad.net/~gnome3-team/+archive/ubuntu/gnome3-staging
[21:13] <amari> anyone?
[21:19] <dxerf> hi
[21:47] <dxerf> anyone around?
[21:47] <dxerf> silly question but is it possible to get the screensaver back in gnome-shell? It just goes to a blank screen but I'd like to have xscreensaver run
[22:01] <darkxst> dxerf, no, gnome-shell uses its own screensaver (it shouldnt be black though)
[22:02] <darkxst> are you using gdm?
[22:13] <dxerf> darkxst: I am
[22:13] <dxerf> it looks like it goes to just a lock screen and then goes blank
[22:14] <darkxst> ah yes, that is right, you can probably disable the blanking
[22:14] <dxerf> ah ok
[22:14] <dxerf> why doesn't gnome have other screensavers available?
[22:14] <darkxst> you can't change/use a traditional screensaver though
[22:15] <darkxst> don't know
[22:15] <dxerf> okay...
[22:15] <dxerf> d'oh!
[22:16] <dxerf> it's a silly/simple question...i figure screensaver isn't on the highest priority list...just curious why the community decided to not use xscreensaver
[22:18] <darkxst> dxerf, the lock screen is internal to gnome-shell, to get a consistent UI etc
[22:18] <dxerf> aaahhhh
[22:18] <dxerf> okay
[22:22] <darkxst> I think Ubuntu do something similar these days, except their lock screen is drawn by lightdm
|
ubuntu-chat
|
2024-05-13T22:11:15.289902
| 2015-04-26T00:00:00 |
{
"license": "Public Domain",
"authors": [
"Snoop",
"amari",
"darkxst",
"dxerf",
"hubx",
"mgedmin"
],
"url": "https://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2015/04/26/%23ubuntu-gnome.txt",
"channel": "#ubuntu-gnome"
}
|
2015-04-26-#ubuntu-server
|
[00:00] <noidea> how to i export files i "find"
[00:00] <noidea> to a file... sorry for that multiple lines
[00:01] <noidea> oh sorry, and every find is printer on a new line
[18:04] <hhee> guys, hi. how ca i check which directory take the place on my hdd?
[18:05] <hhee> can*
[18:07] <devster31> what do you mean?
[18:07] <hhee> devster31: size of folders across all file system
[18:07] <hhee> not one folder, but all of them
[18:12] <lordievader> hhee: du?
[18:14] <teward> hhee: du. or du -h (for human readable size values)
[18:14] <Seveas> hhee: if you have a gui on there: baobab
[18:43] <devster31> hhee ncdu if you want has a ncurses interface
[18:43] <devster31> quite easy to use
[18:45] <Seveas> devster31: ooh, TIL. Thanks!
[19:03] <hhee> devster31: lordievader: teward: Seveas: tnx guys
[19:15] <devster31> how can I see under which group a process is run?
[19:19] <Seveas> devster31: cat /proc/$pid/status
[19:19] <devster31> thanks
[19:19] <Seveas> see man proc for details
[19:32] <devster31> what can I use to set umask for a user using a single line command?
[19:32] <Seveas> umask isn't a property of a user. It's a property of a session.
[19:35] <devster31> oh, so I could (umask 002 && cmd)?
[19:37] <Seveas> sure
[19:43] <CiPi> kernel = 2.6.26-2-amd64 #1 SMP Wed Aug 19 22:33:18 UTC 2009 GNU/Linux
[19:43] <CiPi> distrib = 5.0.9
[19:43] <CiPi> uptime = 22:37:22 up 1713 days, 3:43, 0 users, load average: 0.00, 0.00, 0.00
[20:08] <bekks> CiPi: Please pull the network cable :)
[20:10] <Seveas> CiPi: that server is by now so vulnerable, the only appropriate description for it is 'liability'.
[20:53] <Patrickdk> Seveas, not likely, depends on if it has external access
|
ubuntu-chat
|
2024-05-13T22:11:15.294890
| 2015-04-26T00:00:00 |
{
"license": "Public Domain",
"authors": [
"CiPi",
"Patrickdk",
"Seveas",
"bekks",
"devster31",
"hhee",
"lordievader",
"noidea",
"teward"
],
"url": "https://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2015/04/26/%23ubuntu-server.txt",
"channel": "#ubuntu-server"
}
|
2015-04-26-#ubuntu-si
|
[08:39] <LorD_DDooM> slax0r: !!!
[13:56] <CrazyLemon> .radar
[13:56] <jabuk> Radarska slika padavin: http://www.arso.gov.si/vreme/napovedi%20in%20podatki/radar_anim.gif
[13:57] <zdobbie> a se kej prpravla
[13:57] <CrazyLemon> neki se ja
[13:58] <CrazyLemon> http://vreme.space.si/panoramske_kamere.php?id=186
[13:58] <Seniorita> Panoramska kamera za kraj Letališče Portorož - Vzhod :: Vreme.space.si
[13:58] <Seniorita> »Lokalne vremenske informacije«
[13:58] <CrazyLemon> al je pa samo slabo postavljena kamera
[16:39] <lynxlynxlynx> uhh, a apt-get res ne zna sam poiskat odvisnežev pri odstranjevanju paketov?
[16:41] <lynxlynxlynx> še autoremove dela samo napol
[16:45] <yang> aptitude is your friend
[16:46] <Seniorita> [OMG! Ubuntu!] Joey-Elijah Sneddon: Indicator SysMonitor Tool Is Now Available for 15.04 http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/d0od/~3/kmqsl5k0m4M/indicator-sysmonitor-updated-available-for-15-04
[16:51] <lynxlynxlynx> glede na to, da je frontend, ne verjamem, da je kaj bolj sposoben
[17:04] <yang> dobro resolva soodvisnosti
[17:12] <Seniorita> [Ubuntu.si] cle: Ventilator skoraj z "polno hitrostjo" po "standby" https://www.ubuntu.si/forum/discussion/6318/ventilator-skoraj-z-polno-hitrostjo-po-standby
[17:24] <anny_> kaj dogaja?
[17:26] <lynxlynxlynx> apt je bogi
[17:42] <R33D3M33R> evo, danes sem dal wheezy -> jessie brez težav kar preko apt-get :)
[17:44] <dz0ny> lynxlynxlynx: če namestiš ročno
[17:44] <dz0ny> potem pade pod dselec rule
[17:45] <dz0ny> ker si to ročno zahtebal
[17:45] <dz0ny> zahteval
[17:45] <lynxlynxlynx> govoriš o sirotah?
[17:45] <dz0ny> nope
[17:45] <dz0ny> recmo da ročno namestiš -dev paket
[17:46] <dz0ny> tega autoremove ne bo odstranil
[17:46] <dz0ny> sam primer dajem
[17:46] <dz0ny> lahko bi tud vlc ročno namestil
[17:46] <lynxlynxlynx> to naj bi znal samo aptitude, ampak ni važno
[17:46] <dz0ny> autoremove dela sam za meta pakete
[17:46] <lynxlynxlynx> install 1 -> 12 deps, remove 1 -> 5
[17:46] <dz0ny> mozno
[17:46] <dz0ny> mogoče dep tree nardi
[17:47] <dz0ny> mas neki za pat tud
[17:47] <lynxlynxlynx> to je bilo v isti seji
[17:47] <dz0ny> --select-unrelated al neki ztakega
[17:47] <R33D3M33R> apt-mark auto ime_paketa
[17:47] <lynxlynxlynx> take osnove so delale v smgl že 2004
[17:47] <lynxlynxlynx> ne pa tle dve najbolj mainstream distribuciji ...
[17:48] <dz0ny> lynxlynxlynx: a to boš zdej nixos promoviral :>?
[17:49] <lynxlynxlynx> tam še nisem sprobal
[17:56] <CrazyLemon> http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2015/04/25/dan-fredinburg-dead_n_7143770.html
[17:56] <Seniorita> Dan Fredinburg, Google Executive, Killed On Mount Everest After Nepal Earthquake
[17:56] <Seniorita> »Dan Fredinburg, a Google executive, was killed on Mount Everest in an avalanche triggered by the massive, 7.8 magnitude earthquake that rocked Nepal on Saturday. At least 17 climbers died on the mountain.Fredinburg's sister confirmed his death in...«
[18:09] <yang> R33D3M33R_: jaz bom pocakal za wheezy->jessie upgrade se nekaj casa, po izidu najdejo se kaksne buge ponavadi.
[18:10] <yang> ceprav mislim, da imam samo se kaki 2 masini na wheezy
[18:10] <yang> ostalo je ze jessie
[18:11] <yang> a se kdo od vas spozna na Mikrotik settinge ?
[18:13] <dz0ny> yang: sm slišu da je komplican tko kot "figuring new girlfriend"
[18:13] <yang> haha
[18:13] <yang> jah
[18:13] <yang> CLI je krneki
[18:15] <yang> GUI je pa hujs k windowsi
[18:19] <R33D3M33R> hm
[18:24] <zdobbie> hmhm
[18:26] <yang> Ce se boste peljali kdaj cez jezersko, tule so koordinate za izvirno mineralno vodo http://jp.si/izleti/20150426-Jezersko/.t/DSC07281.html
[18:27] <yang> Lahko je tankate kokr zelite
[18:27] <pitastrudl> najs
[18:28] <CrazyLemon> zdobbie ! danes sta kr 2 pohvalila dres! :p
[18:32] <zdobbie> a si sosedom pokazu
[18:33] <CrazyLemon> zdobbie ne!
[18:33] <CrazyLemon> bratrancu pa sestričninemu možu :p
[18:34] <zdobbie> kaj je pa sestricna rekla?
[18:35] <CrazyLemon> zdobbie nič druga sestrična pa je prašala če imam žabe gor (nogavčniki)
[18:36] <dz0ny> The systemd-nspawn command runs a command or OS in a lightweight namespace container
[18:36] <dz0ny> no more docker :)
[18:37] <zdobbie> systemdocker more like it
[18:37] <CrazyLemon> is that the d in systemd?
[18:37] <dz0ny> idioterna: https://chimeracoder.github.io/docker-without-docker/#19
[18:37] <Seniorita> Docker Without Docker
[18:38] <dz0ny> mah sam lxc(d) so eleminiral
[18:45] <LorD_DDooM> slax0r: !!!
[19:09] <zdobbie> get ready, chan switching to CW mode ...
[20:36] <zdobbie> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_JC_wIWUC2U
[20:36] <Seniorita> Hit by Avalanche in Everest Basecamp 25.04.2015 - YouTube
[20:36] <Seniorita> »The ground was shaking from the earthquake and as soon as we saw people running we were running ourselves to save our lives«
[20:48] <dz0ny> http://tshannon.bitbucket.org/freehold/
[20:48] <Seniorita> Freehold
[20:48] <Seniorita> »Freehold - Personal Data Server«
[20:50] <pitastrudl> stric je eden izmed petnajstih trenutno na camp 2
[20:57] <dz0ny> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gl69xq6H6G4
[20:57] <Seniorita> Avalanche in Everest : Shocking video - YouTube
[20:57] <Seniorita> »Massive earthquake hit Nepal. This is avalanche in Everest caused by the quake. Pray for Nepal«
[21:00] <pitastrudl> kr grozno :(
[21:01] <CrazyLemon> pitastrudl camp2 je itak na varnem
[21:01] <CrazyLemon> camp1 je bil težava ker je bil lih pod ledenikom
[21:01] <pitastrudl> mhm
[21:05] <dz0ny> https://twitter.com/kundadixit/status/592292726994907136/photo/1
[21:05] <Seniorita> Kunda Dixit auf Twitter: "#Everest Base Camp from air 2 days before avalanche hit Saturday killing 17 climbers. by Cpt Deepak Jung Rana http://t.co/hPLLa5Mr4G"
[21:07] <lynxlynxlynx> upam, da drugje ni bilo težav
[21:07] <lynxlynxlynx> everest je le šmarna gora
[21:12] <CrazyLemon> ja..shitload jih je na everestu ker je lih obdobje ko je vreme ugodno za vzpone
|
ubuntu-chat
|
2024-05-13T22:11:15.312204
| 2015-04-26T00:00:00 |
{
"license": "Public Domain",
"authors": [
"CrazyLemon",
"LorD_DDooM",
"R33D3M33R",
"Seniorita",
"anny_",
"dz0ny",
"jabuk",
"lynxlynxlynx",
"pitastrudl",
"yang",
"zdobbie"
],
"url": "https://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2015/04/26/%23ubuntu-si.txt",
"channel": "#ubuntu-si"
}
|
2015-04-26-#ubuntu-africa
|
[09:55] <Kilos> hellooooo africa
|
ubuntu-chat
|
2024-05-13T22:11:15.313368
| 2015-04-26T00:00:00 |
{
"license": "Public Domain",
"authors": [
"Kilos"
],
"url": "https://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2015/04/26/%23ubuntu-africa.txt",
"channel": "#ubuntu-africa"
}
|
2015-04-26-#ubuntustudio-devel
|
[01:47] <OvenWerks> zequence: starting with Xubuntu-core and then starting to add studio to it. jackd2 sure pulls a lot of other stuff in, but we would normally get it anyway.
[01:49] <OvenWerks> I added the audio and kernel then started looking at our themes and desktop. I installed -backdrops... and none of those are current :) But they do go well with the default xubuntu theme. So I thought maybe the backdrop is in -look...
[01:55] <OvenWerks> -look pulls in more stuff than we need if we are basing off xubuntu-core.
[01:59] <OvenWerks> What is ubuntustudio-sounds? Do we use this? elementary-icon-theme... we could just as easy put our icon theme on top of the -Xfce-darker theme xubuntu uses. gnome-icon-theme-full? xubuntu uses the gnome default. Murrine-themes... I think we have been using greybird for 4 years now, maybe not pull this stuff in.
[02:00] <OvenWerks> zequence: what I am saying is maybe we should base Studio more solidly on Xubuntu so that their testing covers almost everything besides our audio/video tweaks and metas.
[02:09] <OvenWerks> I don't have a problem with extra wallpapers, but aligning our themes with xubuntu just makes sense. We have had more than one bad iso just based on theme changes. Really, take xubuntu and put our backdrop in and it changes the whole look. They have a corrected default applications menu that works with the Studio menu stub with no editting. Both in the applications menu as well as wisker... wisker just needs three more clicks to get at a
[02:17] <OvenWerks> zequence: I think I will DL the full xubuntu and see if there is anything that needs to be taken out for our use. we may be better basing off of that.
[08:03] <zequence> OvenWerks: We are supposed to make our stuff desktop agnostic, which goes against basing our stuff more closely on Xubuntu
[08:04] <zequence> PA will autload modules that are set to be autoloaded in PA settings
[08:06] <zequence> ubuntustudio-sounds is an old package from gnome2 days. It should be removed from the archive
[08:07] <zequence> Theming should change at least each LTS. And we change at least the wallpaper. As for the DE theme, that will depend on the DE we are using.
[08:08] <zequence> My though is we should try to use a dark variant for theming, as it is the standard for multimedia production - especially video and graphics
[08:08] <zequence> But, don't think there are good ones for all DEs.
[08:09] <zequence> Gnome has a dark variant for Adwaita, which is not bad actually.
[08:25] <zequence> Unity is only half-dark. The panels, but not the content
[08:25] <zequence> Same with a few other themes
[08:32] <zequence> astraljava: If you want to get up to speed with how we do planning nowadays, check out this page in the wiki https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuStudio/CoreTeamDocumentation
[08:44] <zequence> I'm making blueprints for the X release (16.04). That is the end goal. For 15.10, we'll include whatever is finished, except for theming which I think we should not change until 16.04 (only the backdrop - if someone makes one for us)
[10:33] <zequence> OvenWerks: About jack_control, it makes more sense to study the dbus implementation that jackdbus uses. Been a while since I was working on it, but you can look at the jack_control script for some clues.
[10:33] <zequence> Also, you'll probably want to look up how dbus works.
[10:34] <zequence> Basically, you can both control and get status changes from dbus, depending on what jackdbus is programmed to do
[10:35] <zequence> One can find out the interface for jackdbus by talking to dbus
[12:30] <zequence> I'm calling out for contributors on G+, fb and twitter today
[12:30] <zequence> As well as the mail list
[12:38] <elfy> zequence: I'll be about for testcases if that helps
[12:38] <zequence> elfy: Alright, thanks
[12:38] <elfy> if you intend to use them of course :)
[12:39] <zequence> I'm still planning on writing some test cases. Would be more fun if someone was available to test them as well :)
[12:39] <elfy> tell me about it ;)
[12:40] <zequence> DalekSec: Anything special you would like to contribute with the coming one or two cycles?
[12:42] <elfy> zequence: all I would say more at this point is that the decision to use them and then the bulk of that testcase work to be done in the next cycle, by the time LTS starts you'll have fun trying to get things done in time to use them
[12:43] <zequence> elfy: I'm hoping we can get as much done within this cycle, so we can just relax and focus on polishing for the LTS
[12:44] <elfy> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuStudio/TestingTeamPage/Testcases
[12:44] <elfy> is where we got to
[12:45] <zequence> elfy: Yep. Thanks.
[12:45] <elfy> I'll likely have more time during this coming cycle than the LTS one
[12:45] <elfy> just ping me - or send people my way if that helps
[12:45] <zequence> elfy: Will do
[12:59] <astraljava> zequence: Ok, will do. Thanks!
[14:09] <OvenWerks> zequence: I was also talking about DE themes. We ship the murrina themes which we don't even use
[14:12] <OvenWerks> I think there is only one icon in the icon theme too. so if we could add it on the fly having it depend on whatever the user is using... or make it's name unique enough to just add it to high color like we do with the rest.
[14:13] <OvenWerks> zequence: what I am saying is that there seems to be a lot fo stuff we are shipping that we don't need to.
[14:13] <OvenWerks> if we were to ship a DE theme, we have to make sure ti works with all the DEs.
[14:14] <OvenWerks> This means it should work just as well with kde and unity.
[14:15] <OvenWerks> If we can make our ISO easy, then we have more energy left for doing a DE agostic setup.
[14:17] <OvenWerks> zequence: Speaking of DE agnostic, I don't suppose it is possible (or makes sense) to use the ISO as a package repo for adding workflow packages to other DEs?
[14:32] <zequence> OvenWerks: If we ever go back to having our own theme, then yes, it will need to support all DEs.
[14:32] <zequence> OvenWerks: I haven't paid much attention to the theming details as I'm not the one who has been involved in implementing them
[14:33] <zequence> I have no idea about the last one.
[14:33] <zequence> Problem with the last one is still RT privilege.
[14:33] <zequence> (all though we could arrange that with a script in our audio-core meta
[14:36] <OvenWerks> zequence: RT may be needed for video as well... though possibly only for those who use both video and audio anyway (which should probably be all of them)
[14:41] <OvenWerks> zequence: is the Liquorix Kernel in debian http://liquorix.net/ any better than our lowlatency? Should we be trying to use something like it? Can we use it as is from the debian repo?
[14:42] <OvenWerks> Actually it says it is compatible with ubuntu
[14:45] <OvenWerks> Video meta should at least contain the availablility to put cpu in performance. Some users of laptops may want to preserve their battery at slower speed for some things, but I have talked with some people who say that performance mode makes a large difference in render speed.
[14:46] <OvenWerks> Graphics may find the same.
[14:55] <OvenWerks> zequence: under core-topic-x we need -installer. I don't know if it would be part of the DE-agnostic BP or in core itself. I can see it being used two ways 1) add more sw to our install 2) add Studio to another preinstalled DE.
[14:55] <cub> zequence, I hoping to be around a lot more now for the next cycles. Should try to catch up and install 15.04. Hmm and Debian Jessie perhaps...
[14:57] <zequence> OvenWerks: If you mean ubuntustudio-installer, that's under applications
[14:57] <OvenWerks> zequence: it would be really nice to bring the GUI for ubiquity to the desktop.
[14:57] <OvenWerks> ok, that is fine
[14:57] <OvenWerks> -installer that we have is not very nice
[14:58] <OvenWerks> (it also chokes on Jackd2 install right now)
[15:00] <OvenWerks> The new installer has never been uploaded, but a) I don't know if it fixes this, b) the ubiquity code is much nicer so I don't want to spend time on it.
[15:01] <OvenWerks> Ah, Applications makes sense now.
[15:04] <OvenWerks> zequence: we will use the same bluprints for w as well as x?
[15:09] <zequence> OvenWerks: Same blueprints, yes. We just do the same thing twice, until we have got all of our stuff in.
[15:25] <OvenWerks> zequence: makes sense. It would be nice to have the main work done for w and refine for x. But more realisticly, anything we get done in w will be great. Movement at all will be great. (V has been very slow)
[15:37] <OvenWerks> zequence: looking at -icon-theme there is literally only one icon in there that needs to be (or should be). That is distributor-logo.png (in a number of sizes). The rest can be a part of -menu where the rest are.
[15:40] <OvenWerks> changing the index.theme to point at a DE specific theme would make this package work with any DE. I am not sure if this means we need to make 5 themes or if we can make just one theme based on the installed DE at install time.
[15:43] <OvenWerks> In the same package we could have ubuntustudio-xfce, ubuntustudio-kde, etc. using the smae icons (symlink) with just a different index.theme that Inherits a reasonable DE specific icon theme.
[15:46] <OvenWerks> Or, if there will be a default-settings package per DE, this could be dropped in there... I don't know what makes sense.
[15:49] <zequence> We shoud use one theme for all, if possible
[15:50] <zequence> The symlinks sounds good
[15:52] <holstein> i was thinking, it may be ideal to clarify contributions.. and maybe the team roles
[15:53] <holstein> if we can just pull in most or all of the desktop,etc, from xubuntu, which, would be a nice way to do it, since they are already doing that work, and doing it well..
[15:53] <holstein> we could let folks know that contributing upstream to xubuntu would help US, and exactly how.. and not be duplicating efforts, hopefully
[15:54] <holstein> and also, clarify what it is that this team is responsible for
[15:58] <OvenWerks> holstein: I am actively working on bassing an ISO from xubuntu-core.
[16:01] <elfy> OvenWerks: could be :D
[16:02] <OvenWerks> However, I am hoping that the work I do there will help with other DEs as well.
[16:02] <holstein> it could be attractive on many levels.. support, etc
[16:02] <OvenWerks> elfy: :)
[16:02] <holstein> i like the idea of making sure things "just work" on other DE's.. as well
[16:04] <OvenWerks> holstein: the little bit I have done with xubuntu-core just works.. the only thing being setting up RT permissions has to be done manually still. but ubuntustudio-controls will fix that.
[16:05] <OvenWerks> kubuntu in the past has been the same.
[16:07] <OvenWerks> lubuntu also has a broken menu file problem... bugged with fix attached but considered a non-problem "won't fix"
[16:07] <OvenWerks> gnome3 has the same menu file bug and unity doesn't have a menu anyway really.
[16:08] <OvenWerks> gnome doesn't reall have a menu unless one takes extra steps to add one as well.
[16:09] <OvenWerks> Effectively, all tyhe DEs except maybe Lubuntu, are moving away from menus anyway.
[16:13] <OvenWerks> KDE maintains the classic menu as well as a whisker-like menu, but also has a more unity/gnome/android like mode. This is fine for most computer uses, but Studio ships so many apps that we need to have some way of organizing the apps so the user a) knows what they have available b) knows what apps are apropriate for what tasks (audacity should not be used for tracking) c) doesn't have to scroll down forever looking for zita-at1.
[16:22] * OvenWerks wonders how hard writing an xfce panel aplet that host either whisker or the appmenu would be. This would allow switching between the two without removing one and installing the other.
[16:38] <elfy> it really is only a small point I make here
[16:42] <elfy> and it acan wait
[16:43] <OvenWerks> elfy: :)
[16:43] * OvenWerks is off to play some music
[16:46] <holstein> personally, i think we should also have a talk about the suggestion of *not* having a distro
[16:47] <holstein> having more just the packages that you add to whatever distro you are using
[16:47] <holstein> at the beginning of one of the cycles would be the best time to discuss this..
[16:47] <holstein> i thought it was a great idea when someone proposed it, but, it was like 3 weeks before the release of one of the distros ;)
[16:58] <zequence> As long as there's interest in maintaining an ISO, I think it will endure
[16:58] <zequence> It's up to those who do the work
[16:58] <zequence> Doesn't mean we should make Ubuntu Studio work easily on any flavor, which is exactly what we're planning to do now
[16:59] <zequence> One doesn't replace the other. They can co-exist
[17:00] <zequence> Sorry, I miswrote. Doesn't mean we shouldn't make Ubuntu Studio easily work on any flavor...
[17:00] <zequence> holstein: Frankly, I'd like to see more ideas on what to do, rather on what not to do :)
[17:08] <holstein> zequence: its not like that
[17:08] <holstein> i seriously think its a constructive idea to consider
[17:09] <holstein> covering adaptation into any DE, for example
[17:09] <holstein> im not saying they cant coexsist, and as you are making perfectly clear, its your boat.. steer it as you please
[17:21] <zequence> Didn't realize mythbuntu is only doing LTS releases
[17:21] <holstein> i didnt realize it was an official flavor
[17:22] <holstein> yeah.. "community supported add on"..
[17:22] <zequence> It's an official flavor
[17:23] <zequence> http://www.ubuntu.com/about/about-ubuntu/flavours
[17:23] <zequence> Ubuntu Mate is missing from that list. They just started out
[17:24] <holstein> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuFlavors is where i read "community supported addon"
[17:26] <holstein> its all "community supported".. so, whatever
[17:26] <holstein> i havent looked at it in ages to know if they included something outside the repos..
[17:27] <holstein> looks like they have a google sites page..
[17:27] <holstein> i dont know anyone from that project AFAIK..
[17:27] <zequence> Think they are pretty quiet on IRC
[17:31] <zequence> 12k likes on our facebook page. That's probably about 10k in the past two years or so, since we became more active with it
[17:31] <zequence> On Twitter, we have 254 followers. Twitter, I don't get
[17:32] <zequence> Less than 2k have us in their circles in G+
[17:33] <zequence> Xubuntu has 12k likes on their fb page, as comparison. So, we're not doing too bad
[17:39] <holstein> assuming thats a correlation, sure
[17:43] <zequence> On G+ Xubuntu has almost 7k followers.
[17:50] <DalekSec> Liquorix does work in Ubuntu, not sure how well with LTS releases though (as you could guess, I may know a couple things about it. :P ) I'm not sure how it ranks in lowlat, as I don't use it for that. As far as anything special for US? No idea, zequence, my media needs aren't high.
[18:00] <holstein> OvenWerks: so, were you around when someone suggested *not* having a release?
[18:01] <holstein> how do you feel about that? or the LTS only?
[18:01] <holstein> DalekSec: are there any "gotchas" as far as hardware support?
[18:08] <DalekSec> holstein: dkms worked fine for nvidia and vboxhost modules at least, all other hardware tends to work fine. Weirdly, plymouth's bootsplash only works for Liquorix, not the stock kernels on one computer.
[18:09] <holstein> DalekSec: interesting. you think thats GPU related?
[18:09] <holstein> i have nvidia, and it used to act quite odd with rt kernels with the boot splash.. under 10.04, and also 12.04
[18:10] <DalekSec> I couldn't say what it is, both right now are the same upstream version.
[18:10] <holstein> sometimes, its challenging to isolate, and know
[18:10] <DalekSec> Also, Liquorix isn't rt, just preempt.
[18:10] <holstein> yup
[18:12] <DalekSec> Uses bfq as well.
[18:12] <holstein> mhm.. i have installed it in the past
[18:12] <holstein> and i had used a distro that shipped it.. i cant remember what one that was.. years ago..
[18:12] <DalekSec> IMO, it's the best out of repo kernel there is, and a good option. I suppose you could mention it.
[18:12] <DalekSec> holstein: Sidux?
[18:13] <holstein> DalekSec: likely sidux.. i do remember looking specifically as sidux
[18:13] <holstein> at*
[18:16] <DalekSec> (Great option, as someone that doesn't need a lowlat or rt kernel, that is.)
[18:16] <holstein> what do you use it for?
[18:17] <holstein> you use it for getting lower latency? correct?
[18:17] <holstein> i always saw it as something with the side effect of being similar to RT
[18:17] <holstein> similar effects
[18:20] <DalekSec> I use it as an alternative kernel, but have zero need for low latency.
[18:37] <DalekSec> holstein: Only thing to be aware of, repos also contains: sopcast-player sp-auth vmtouch wine1.7 xen-linux-system-3.19-4.dmz.1-liquorix exfalso quodlibet wine
[22:36] <OvenWerks> holstein: I have been quiietly and not so quietly trying our metas, kernels amd menus with different DE ISOs.
[22:38] <OvenWerks> I think even if we do an ISO as Studio on top of xubuntu, it is worth having our own ISO.
[22:40] <OvenWerks> The big thing we need for being able to do "on top of" installs is an installer that can actually install jackd2 properly and a controls package that can deal with RT priv.
[22:41] <OvenWerks> holstein: as you may have read above, I am looking at making our icon package/theme work with all the DEs.
[22:44] <OvenWerks> holstein: as I have also mentioned, we provide a lot of packages and need to make as organized a presentation to users as possible. We came up with a menu stub that should work with any (XDG compliant) DE. (even FVWM has ways to fake this)
[22:45] <OvenWerks> holstein: however, the DE world seems to be in a rush towards the android style of things with just favourite apps available easily and search through the whole bunch for anything else using a search engine.
[22:48] <OvenWerks> It works really well for the average user who uses less than 10 applications in day to day computing or those who are keyboard search literate (I'm not). The world the win95 menu was built for is still there, but is a smaller percentage of the computing population.
[22:50] <OvenWerks> holstein: Studio needs to find a way to organize our apps so the user does not get lost in the large number of applications to do with media.
[22:51] <OvenWerks> *media creation
[22:55] <OvenWerks> The one common thing to all the DEs (for now) is that there is a systray (or it`s new counterpart). It is possible to put a workflow applet or menu in there for all DEs ... one package that should just work.
[22:55] <DalekSec> Well, unity only has indicators, no tray.
[22:56] <OvenWerks> indicators was the word I was looking for. I think there is a tool kit that will look for both and use indicators if it can
[22:58] <OvenWerks> Indicators are supposed to be more system integrated and more flexable.
[22:59] <OvenWerks> There are some panels that can not see indicators though, so looking also for system tray is a backup.
[23:00] <OvenWerks> DalekSec: indicators is technology we have to get used to if we are thinking cross DE.
[23:01] * OvenWerks needs to install vanilla and see what works/not
[23:02] <DalekSec> Likely. Some things don't support them, thus don't show up in Unity but work just about everywhere else. :P
[23:02] <DalekSec> Also, trayicons can well have more features still.
[23:03] <OvenWerks> What is the applet we use for audio? I thought that was an indicator.
[23:04] <OvenWerks> (it seems to be pretty featureful)
[23:04] <DalekSec> You use indicator-sound, that's slightly different. There's indicators and application indicators.
[23:04] * OvenWerks looks blank :)
[23:05] <OvenWerks> I guess I am asking if it works with unity.
[23:05] <OvenWerks> I expect qjackctl's tray icon ay not.
|
ubuntu-chat
|
2024-05-13T22:11:15.318970
| 2015-04-26T00:00:00 |
{
"license": "Public Domain",
"authors": [
"DalekSec",
"OvenWerks",
"astraljava",
"cub",
"elfy",
"holstein",
"zequence"
],
"url": "https://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2015/04/26/%23ubuntustudio-devel.txt",
"channel": "#ubuntustudio-devel"
}
|
2015-04-26-#ubuntu-touch
|
[04:29] <tgm4883> Is there a site similiar to packages.ubuntu.com for armhf packages?
[07:44] <PhilippeP> 'morning
[09:40] <bqphone> any idea when ubuntu 15.04 update will be available to bq phones?
[09:42] <bqphone> 2nd question is how can we watch videos posted on facebook? the web app doesnt support that (unless its a youtube link)
[10:07] <Dragonkeeper> bqphone: just change the channel when u flash to devel and ull have 15.04 and alot of updates
[10:08] <bqphone> how can i do that?
[10:09] <Dragonkeeper> ubuntu-device-flash tool
[10:12] <bqphone> i dont have it, is it found in ubuntu store?
[10:12] <Dragonkeeper> it needs to be done from desktop
[10:13] <DanChapman> bqphone: https://developer.ubuntu.com/en/start/ubuntu-for-devices/installing-ubuntu-for-devices/
[10:14] <LostSoul> ji everyone. I'm trying to take screenshots from Ubuntu touch. Can someone tell me how to do it please??
[10:14] <bqphone> wont come to ubuntu phone from normal update like 14.10 ?
[10:15] <Dragonkeeper> it will but its not at that stage just yet
[10:15] <LostSoul> OK how can I do different update.
[10:15] <Dragonkeeper> hold both volume buttons LostSoul
[10:16] <DanChapman> bqphone: the next RTM image i believe will be based on vivid but that may be a few weeks away yet. So it will be a little while before you get a 15.04 image through normal update
[10:16] <bqphone> okay
[10:17] <bqphone> i will try to update it based on the link you gave
[10:18] <bqphone> any help with respect to embeded videos on facebook?
[10:19] <Dragonkeeper> bqphone: use browser instead, doesnt seem to work within the facebook app
[10:19] <bqphone> ah okay
[10:22] <bqphone> will switch to ubuntu desktop now
[10:37] <ueaw> hello all
[12:11] <bqphone> it seems i failed to update my bq ubuntu to 15.04
[12:12] <bqphone> any guide for ubuntu phone and not for android?
[12:16] <bqphone> http://pastebin.com/vrSPByF3
[12:16] <dadexix86> bqphone, guide to do what exactly?
[12:16] <bqphone> https://developer.ubuntu.com/en/start/ubuntu-for-devices/installing-ubuntu-for-devices/#install-ubuntu this one
[12:17] <bqphone> i did want to update my ubuntu phone from 14.10 to 15.04
[12:17] <Guest3225> Good day.
[12:18] <Guest3225> Anybody can help with porting?
[12:18] <Guest3225> i cant switch on adb in recovery...
[12:18] <dadexix86> bqphone, but... have you read the guide that you linked?
[12:19] <dadexix86> Tip: The --bootstrap option is normally only used when installing Ubuntu the first time. It requires that the device is booted to the bootloader. After Ubuntu is installed, one uses the ubuntu-device-flash command (without the --bootstrap option) while the device is booted to Ubuntu.
[12:20] <dadexix86> bqphone, and going on in the guide there is an explicit paragraph on upgrading an Ubuntu installation. read _all_ the guide please.
[12:24] <popey> bqphone: I'd wait for the next over the air update if I were you.
[12:25] <bqphone> i guess i should do that
[12:27] <Guest3225> please wait. i downloaded aosp source code by this command: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/Porting and then Added my own new device and kernel from another aosp... After i got system.img, recovery.img, and boot.img. Flash this files in my device... if i flashing recvery.img to the boot partition i see label "Android" on the screen.
[12:28] <rigved> hi everyone
[12:28] <Guest3225> in hardware console i see this text"recovery: applet not found"
[12:29] <Guest3225> when i try execute "adbd" i recived: " cannot bind 'tcp:5037' "
[12:29] <rigved> i'm trying to flash Ubuntu Touch from a Ubuntu 14.04 machine to a Nexus 7 (2013) and i'm hitting this bug: #1427359
[12:30] <rigved> has anyone else encountered it? does anyone have a work-around for this issue??
[12:45] <popey> Guest3225: why are you running adbd?
[12:49] <Guest3225> I dont know how to install system in device.. i try use this command "rootstock-touch-install "$OUT/$ROOTFS" "$OUT/system.img" but for that i need connect my device by adb...
[13:12] <lotuspsychje> someone knows if ubuntu uses the NFC chip or is it also secured?
[13:12] <lotuspsychje> ubuntu touch that is
[13:13] <Guest3225> how i can generate system.img (ubuntu.tar.gz+android_sustem.img) om PC, without using device by adb?
[13:13] <Guest3225> Please, help me
[13:13] <lotuspsychje> Guest3225: whats your device?
[13:13] <Guest3225> based on rk3288
[13:13] <Guest3225> soc
[13:14] <Guest3225> official not supported
[13:14] <lotuspsychje> Guest3225: try the XDA forums for your device, maybe it has a project
[13:14] <Guest3225> i compiled own recovery.img, system.img and boot.img by this guide https://developer.ubuntu.com/en/start/ubuntu-for-devices/porting-new-device
[13:43] <amari> Hi what will be the retail price of the Meizu mx4 ubuntu version?
[13:49] <PreSSion> Hello wow iba ese a lot og ubuntu users
[15:01] <brunch875> Hello!
[15:03] <cwayne_> Hello
[17:09] <czxczxcz> fgdf
[17:09] <czxczxcz> dfgdgdg
[17:10] <czxczxcz> fdggfdgdg
[18:10] <Se7> hi guys
[18:11] <Se7> why my bq phone doesn t download update?
[18:11] <Se7> i ve got youtube telegramm and myphoto
[18:12] <Se7> none of them download
[18:12] <Se7> any idea?
[18:12] <peat-psuwit> Se7: Can you tell me what's the error appeared on the screen?
[18:13] <Se7> no error
[18:13] <Se7> just stack
[18:15] <Se7> i tried to reboot many time...still nothing
[18:16] <Se7> :(
[18:20] <Se7> oh well seems no solutions
[20:03] <amari> Hi, is BQ planning to release a new ubuntu phone with 5 inches?
[21:16] <billy_idle> Hi :) Is there a way to show pictures of artists in "My music scope"? I've got some artists which aren't listed and I want to add pics. artist.jpg, fanart.jpg, artist.nfo... didn't work. Any ideas?
[21:37] <fossrox> hi everyone :)
[21:52] <fossrox> I'm not sure how up to date is the linked documentation so please don't get me wrong with my following questions:
[21:53] <fossrox> What would be the most modern tablet supported by Ubuntu? And same question about phone.
[21:54] <brunch875> no idea about tablets but the phone should be the meizu MX4 if I know correctly, since it's about to get released as an ubuntu phone (if it hasn't already)
[21:55] <brunch875> the BQ aquaris e4.5 is compatible with ubuntu too
[21:55] <brunch875> utouch was built mostly on the nexus4, but the support is dropping from what I know
[21:55] <genii> Whatever the most recent Google tablet line is the answer to the other
[22:03] <kostkon> fossrox, if you are in the EU, you could get the bq phone
|
ubuntu-chat
|
2024-05-13T22:11:15.328927
| 2015-04-26T00:00:00 |
{
"license": "Public Domain",
"authors": [
"DanChapman",
"Dragonkeeper",
"Guest3225",
"LostSoul",
"PhilippeP",
"PreSSion",
"Se7",
"amari",
"billy_idle",
"bqphone",
"brunch875",
"cwayne_",
"czxczxcz",
"dadexix86",
"fossrox",
"genii",
"kostkon",
"lotuspsychje",
"peat-psuwit",
"popey",
"rigved",
"tgm4883",
"ueaw"
],
"url": "https://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2015/04/26/%23ubuntu-touch.txt",
"channel": "#ubuntu-touch"
}
|
2015-04-26-#ubuntu-ko
|
[04:53] <PotatoGim> 즐건 주말입니다~~
[10:39] <Demonion> ㅇㅅㅇ
[10:39] <Demonion> 외국인들이 내 페북을 보고 굉장히 놀랐던 건, 오랜만에 올린 사진에 "아직 통통하다, 살빠졌다, 예뻐졌다" 등의 댓글이 넘쳤기 때문. 어떻게 그런 댓글을 달 수 있느냐고 물었다. 그런데서 내가 미치지 않고 살았다니 믿을 수가 없다고 한다.
[21:19] <samahui_WS> 좋은 아침입니다~
[21:20] <samahui_WS> 이번 주도 즐겁고 유익한 한 주 되세요~
|
ubuntu-chat
|
2024-05-13T22:11:15.334936
| 2015-04-26T00:00:00 |
{
"license": "Public Domain",
"authors": [
"Demonion",
"PotatoGim",
"samahui_WS"
],
"url": "https://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2015/04/26/%23ubuntu-ko.txt",
"channel": "#ubuntu-ko"
}
|
2015-04-26-#lubuntu
|
[11:56] <pawel101> hiall. any1 know a good free game program for linux / lubuntu to make mmorpg games?
[22:46] <Captonjamason> hey
[22:46] <Captonjamason> can i get some help
[22:47] <Captonjamason> when i run the lubuntu installer it changes and says Out of scan range on my monitor
[22:54] * genii makes more coffee
[22:55] * wxl drinks said coffee
[22:56] <genii> wxl: I'm actually working on a Guinness Extra Stout here while watching hockey, so knock yourself out ;) Just habit to make a pot
|
ubuntu-chat
|
2024-05-13T22:11:15.337445
| 2015-04-26T00:00:00 |
{
"license": "Public Domain",
"authors": [
"Captonjamason",
"genii",
"pawel101",
"wxl"
],
"url": "https://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2015/04/26/%23lubuntu.txt",
"channel": "#lubuntu"
}
|
2015-04-26-#ubuntu-nl-mwanzo
|
[15:32] <WimvanHooff> Goedemiddag. Ik heb een vraag over Google Earth. Wie heeft ook problemen (gehad) met Google Earth?
|
ubuntu-chat
|
2024-05-13T22:11:15.338065
| 2015-04-26T00:00:00 |
{
"license": "Public Domain",
"authors": [
"WimvanHooff"
],
"url": "https://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2015/04/26/%23ubuntu-nl-mwanzo.txt",
"channel": "#ubuntu-nl-mwanzo"
}
|
2015-04-26-#ubuntu+1
|
[12:25] <BluesKaj> Hiyas all
[12:26] <penguin42> hey
[12:26] <penguin42> :q
[12:26] <penguin42> oops
[13:52] <penguin42> is there an image with snappy yet?
[14:01] <elfy> just this one penguin42 http://i28.tinypic.com/oodps.jpg
[14:02] <elfy> hi BluesKaj penguin42
[14:02] <BluesKaj> hi elfy
[14:02] <penguin42> elfy: Ah, it's erm ... adorable
[14:03] <elfy> until it grabs you :)
|
ubuntu-chat
|
2024-05-13T22:11:15.341355
| 2015-04-26T00:00:00 |
{
"license": "Public Domain",
"authors": [
"BluesKaj",
"elfy",
"penguin42"
],
"url": "https://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2015/04/26/%23ubuntu%2B1.txt",
"channel": "#ubuntu+1"
}
|
2015-04-26-#ubuntu-irc
|
[03:23] <NoCode> Hi. Few questions about the bot. Anyone around?
[03:28] <benonsoftware> NoCode: What questions do you have?
[03:28] <NoCode> I'm wondering what has been enabled to use pipe commands.
[03:31] <benonsoftware> NoCode: I would assume that it's the Encyclopedia plugin is what you want to look into.
[03:31] <NoCode> "!test | NoCode" for example. So with such a command, the bot would reply the factoid back to the user. "Ubottu: Success!" The factoid being, "!test is <reply> Success!".
[03:31] <Unit193> It's a factoid bot.
[03:32] <NoCode> !COC | NoCode
[03:34] <NoCode> I remember years ago there were two different types of pipes. | would provide the factoid to the user whereas > would reply to the user *in* query.
[03:39] <benonsoftware> NoCode: If you're looking for the code for it, http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-bots/ubuntu-bots/devel/files/head:/Encyclopedia/ is where it lies.
[03:43] <NoCode> benonsoftware, Thanks a lot. I'll look into that.
[03:52] <NoCode> Anyway, thanks a lot. Tell Topyli I said Hi. (it's J-_) I kinda miss that dude. Cheers.
[04:06] <Unit193> It does, '|' addresses whereas '>' PMs.
|
ubuntu-chat
|
2024-05-13T22:11:15.344072
| 2015-04-26T00:00:00 |
{
"license": "Public Domain",
"authors": [
"NoCode",
"Unit193",
"benonsoftware"
],
"url": "https://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2015/04/26/%23ubuntu-irc.txt",
"channel": "#ubuntu-irc"
}
|
2015-04-26-#ubuntu-fi
|
[09:51] <pesasa> http://viikonvalo.fi/OpenWRT
[12:05] <Iltsu> mullon DNA:lta ostettu Inteno VG50 mis on openwrt vakiona, mut en oo onnistunu saamaa siinä upnp:tä toimimaa :d
[13:08] <Hejkki> Jaha, ompa omituista
[13:08] <Tekno_> mikä
[13:08] <Hejkki> vaihdoin muistikampojen paikkaa keskenään (2x512MB sinne missä oli 2x1GB ja päinvastoin), ja lakkas kone kaatumasta muuten mutta windows vista kaatuu edelleen
[13:09] <Hejkki> ja enää ei memtest näytä virhettä
[13:09] <Hejkki> ubuntulla toimaa hyvin
[13:09] <Hejkki> siis samat muistit sisässä
[13:11] <Echramath> Omituista mutta ei tavatonta
[13:11] <Echramath> Tai siis täysin uskottavaa.
[13:11] <Iltsu> mulla on yks kone, joka ei buuttaa jos samat kammat laittaa eri järjestykse
[13:11] <Iltsu> e
[13:12] <Iltsu> ja jos ne on sii toimivas järjestykses ni kaikki toimii 5/5
|
ubuntu-chat
|
2024-05-13T22:11:15.348943
| 2015-04-26T00:00:00 |
{
"license": "Public Domain",
"authors": [
"Echramath",
"Hejkki",
"Iltsu",
"Tekno_",
"pesasa"
],
"url": "https://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2015/04/26/%23ubuntu-fi.txt",
"channel": "#ubuntu-fi"
}
|
2015-04-26-#ubuntu-co-meeting
|
[23:05] <Fori> Jcqr123: formemos nuestro propio ubuntu colombia con juegos de azar y mujerzuelas
[23:05] <Jcqr123> Jajajajaja
[23:05] <Jcqr123> Ola ke asen
[23:05] <Fori> nada CarlosNeyPastor es un bot
[23:06] <Fori> voy a otorgarme +o
[23:06] <Jcqr123> O.o
[23:42] <Jcqr123> ???
|
ubuntu-chat
|
2024-05-13T22:11:15.349816
| 2015-04-26T00:00:00 |
{
"license": "Public Domain",
"authors": [
"Fori",
"Jcqr123"
],
"url": "https://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2015/04/26/%23ubuntu-co-meeting.txt",
"channel": "#ubuntu-co-meeting"
}
|
2015-04-26-#ubuntustudio
|
[05:01] <warhead> yes
[16:28] <nazareno> ¿Cómo lograr sonido de guitarra acústica con guitarix?
[16:29] <nazareno> How to achieve acoustic guitar sound with guitarix?
[16:32] <holstein> nazareno: i would try #opensourcemusicians ..but, AFAIK, thats not the scope of that project
[17:05] <nazareno> I want to record the sound of an acoustic guitar from my electric guitar
[17:10] <holstein> nazareno: sure. that may be more problematic than you think.. maybe you can borrow an acoustic guitar? it will always be a compromise, and an "effect" to try and emulate one
[17:13] <holstein> you can likely, simply record the electric, and with EQing, "fake" the acoustic sound you want, just as a plugin would in realtime
|
ubuntu-chat
|
2024-05-13T22:11:15.354916
| 2015-04-26T00:00:00 |
{
"license": "Public Domain",
"authors": [
"holstein",
"nazareno",
"warhead"
],
"url": "https://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2015/04/26/%23ubuntustudio.txt",
"channel": "#ubuntustudio"
}
|
2015-04-26-#ubuntu-us-pa
|
[14:35] <pleia2> waltman: lemurs <3
[14:35] <TengokuNoIsan> mornin
|
ubuntu-chat
|
2024-05-13T22:11:15.356920
| 2015-04-26T00:00:00 |
{
"license": "Public Domain",
"authors": [
"TengokuNoIsan",
"pleia2"
],
"url": "https://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2015/04/26/%23ubuntu-us-pa.txt",
"channel": "#ubuntu-us-pa"
}
|
2015-04-26-#ubuntu-news
|
[07:59] * PaulW2U counts summaries after adding and writing a few - still 19 to go but off to do other things
[15:29] <pleia2> going to bullet-point the cloud news again, I think this should just be something we do from now on
[15:53] <pleia2> still need canonical news, in the press, and in the blogosphere summaries
[16:09] <pleia2> removed the ubuntugeek and distrowatch links from our list of release articles, they don't really add much
[16:09] <pleia2> (really just quote bits of official release info)
[16:09] <pleia2> and lxer quotes verbatim
[16:16] <pleia2> actually, the press articles were more release articles, so I bumped them to the top of the newsletter
[16:17] <pleia2> 9 summaries to write, if anyone can pitch in at http://bit.ly/vDkJyf
[16:17] <pleia2> I'm going to attempt to recover from the latest plague I've managed to catch
[16:53] <PaulW2U> hot fixed a couple of summaries and written another
[16:54] * PaulW2U it's my weekend off and I'm still working on UWN </grrr>
[17:20] * PaulW2U counts summaries to write (8) and heads off out into the evening sunshine ;)
[18:15] <pleia2> PaulW2U: please enjoy! :)
[22:51] <pleia2> anyone around to write a summary or two? :) http://bit.ly/vDkJyf
[22:51] <pleia2> I'm going to get a head start on moving things over so it's clear what is left to do
[22:57] <ahoneybun> seems to be 3
[22:57] * ahoneybun turns on spotify and gets to work
[22:58] <Unit193> Pandora! Pinobar! :P
[22:58] <ahoneybun> more then that
[22:58] <pleia2> yeah, got a few under canonical and blogosphere
[22:58] * pleia2 finishing up planet
[22:59] <jose> pleia2: want me to move summaries and pull stats later?
[22:59] <pleia2> jose: sure, I could use a break if you're in the mood for it :)
[23:00] <jose> cool, I'll take a look in a while :)
[23:00] <jose> finishing up some uni stuff
[23:08] * ahoneybun sees 4 more
[23:09] * ahoneybun points https://insights.ubuntu.com/2015/04/21/giving-developers-production-access-without-revealing-secrets/ -> jose
|
ubuntu-chat
|
2024-05-13T22:11:15.360645
| 2015-04-26T00:00:00 |
{
"license": "Public Domain",
"authors": [
"PaulW2U",
"Unit193",
"ahoneybun",
"jose",
"pleia2"
],
"url": "https://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2015/04/26/%23ubuntu-news.txt",
"channel": "#ubuntu-news"
}
|
2015-04-26-#ubuntu-gr
|
[07:46] <panosbug> καλημερα παιδες εχω κατεβασει τα: lubuntu-15.04 & xubuntu-14.04.2 τι προτεινετε για netbook με 1,6 επεξεργαστη 1g μνημη kai 160 hd?
[07:48] <panosbug> αυτο σε λευκο
[07:48] <panosbug> α! εχω και αυτο αλλα παλιο? ubuntu-10.10-rc-netbook-i386
[09:36] <GreekX> καλημέρα
[09:55] <Euaki> Νέα από ubuntugrforum: Νέα - Ειδήσεις - Ανακοινώσεις | Συνάντηση χρηστών Blender στο Hackerspace Αθηνών <https://forum.ubuntu-gr.org/viewtopic.php?p=327310#p327310>
[10:35] <Euaki> Νέα από ubuntugrforum: Νέα - Ειδήσεις - Ανακοινώσεις | Re: Συνάντηση χρηστών Blender στο Hackerspace Αθηνών <https://forum.ubuntu-gr.org/viewtopic.php?p=327313#p327313>
[11:15] <Euaki> Νέα από ubuntugrforum: Νέα - Ειδήσεις - Ανακοινώσεις | Re: (Ανα)ζητείται προγραμματιστής <https://forum.ubuntu-gr.org/viewtopic.php?p=327315#p327315>
[11:35] <pc_magas> Καλησπέρα
[15:38] <Euaki> Νέα από ubuntugrforum: Νέα - Ειδήσεις - Ανακοινώσεις | Re: (Ανα)ζητείται προγραμματιστής <https://forum.ubuntu-gr.org/viewtopic.php?p=327322#p327322>
[19:39] <Euaki> Νέα από ubuntugrforum: Νέα - Ειδήσεις - Ανακοινώσεις | Re: (Ανα)ζητείται προγραμματιστής <https://forum.ubuntu-gr.org/viewtopic.php?p=327335#p327335>
[19:53] <xeirwn> kalispera paides
[19:54] <xeirwn> Anoniem4l, ?
[19:55] <Anoniem4l> kalhsperes xeirwn
[19:55] <Anoniem4l> :)
[19:55] <xeirwn> ti kaneis file ?
[19:55] <xeirwn> meta apo arketh talaiporia , katafera na anaktisw ena megalo meros apo tis xamenes mou fotos ..... :)
[19:56] <Anoniem4l> nice!
[19:56] <Anoniem4l> na more edw arazw, etoimazome na paiksw ligo counter strike :)
[19:56] <xeirwn> :)
|
ubuntu-chat
|
2024-05-13T22:11:15.367344
| 2015-04-26T00:00:00 |
{
"license": "Public Domain",
"authors": [
"Anoniem4l",
"Euaki",
"GreekX",
"panosbug",
"pc_magas",
"xeirwn"
],
"url": "https://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2015/04/26/%23ubuntu-gr.txt",
"channel": "#ubuntu-gr"
}
|
2015-04-26-#ubuntu-dk
|
[13:03] <Christian_Arvai> Generalforsamling og bestyrelsesvalg - søndag d. 26. april kl 16
[14:03] <sbc> Generalforsamling *NU* i #ubuntu-dk-moede !
|
ubuntu-chat
|
2024-05-13T22:11:15.370417
| 2015-04-26T00:00:00 |
{
"license": "Public Domain",
"authors": [
"Christian_Arvai",
"sbc"
],
"url": "https://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2015/04/26/%23ubuntu-dk.txt",
"channel": "#ubuntu-dk"
}
|
2015-04-26-#ubuntu-hr
|
[06:36] <SilverSpace> jutro
[07:07] <VjetarSaSunca> jutro
[07:07] <VjetarSaSunca> Microsoft iznenađuje iz dana u dan. Native support za Android development u VS 2015
[07:08] <VjetarSaSunca> I još te pita - Install Google Chrome Y/N
[07:51] <SilverSpace> VjetarSaSunca: kaj to u win 10
[07:57] <Vlado9A3CY> dobro jutro :)
[08:13] <SilverSpace> oo Vlado9A3CY
[08:14] <Vlado9A3CY> dobro jutro SilverSpace ;)
[09:12] <SilverSpace> formatiranje diska traje 2 sata i 50min
[09:12] <SilverSpace> na usb docku
[09:13] <SilverSpace> sata disk
[10:24] <jelly> kakvo je to crno formatiranje
[11:12] <Mmike> ptljeh ptoh
[15:59] <dodobas> yutro
[16:03] <frainfreeze> bok.
[16:06] <dodobas> hi frainfreeze
[16:24] <jelly> prosle godine je umrlo 25%, 100000 pcelinjih zajednica na prostoru .hr
[16:26] <dodobas> eh da je bar takava statistika za uhljebe....
[16:36] <jelly> http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2015/04/150421104909.htm Cannabis consumers show greater susceptibility to false memories
[16:40] <frainfreeze> no shit...
[16:41] <frainfreeze> pitam se zašto :P
[16:46] <jelly> za one koji briju da trava nema dugorocnih efekata
[16:48] <frainfreeze> ovisi o osobi / travi
[16:49] <dodobas> jelly: pa sigurno je benignija od ostalih legalnih sranja... aditivi, alkohol, duhan, ljekovi, ...
[16:50] <jelly> dodobas: to vrlo vjerojatno stoji
[17:05] <Mmike> nitko ne veli da je trava benigna i da nema dugorocnih efekata
[17:05] <Mmike> al ak je alkohol legalan....
[17:08] <jelly> Mmike: kak ne veli, vidis da lik brije da ovisi o osobi
[17:11] <frainfreeze> ^_^
[17:11] <Mmike> sroko mi se tuxracer
[17:18] <markosejic> d vecer
[18:46] <SilverSpace> naso sam si terminal >> Terminator
[18:55] <SilverSpace> odlican
[18:55] <vileni> SilverSpace: mogao si pitati, ja to koristim jedno 5-6 godina :)
[18:59] <SilverSpace> vileni: pa pitao jel se borim sa gnome terminalom
[18:59] <SilverSpace> sam od sebe se smanji na ikonu X
[18:59] <SilverSpace> samo se vidi exit :)
[19:00] <SilverSpace> i briso i kaj aj znam
[19:00] <SilverSpace> i nikako to sredit
[19:00] <SilverSpace> nakraju mate terminal instalirao
[19:00] <vileni> kod terminatora mi najbolje sto ga mozes splitati
[19:00] <SilverSpace> i sad naletim na terminator
[19:01] <SilverSpace> kak ja za to nisam znao :)
[19:02] <SilverSpace> sad samo napravim link na gnome terminal i bok
[19:19] <SilverSpace> odlicno
[19:21] <SilverSpace> terminator --geometry=900x600+500+500 -b
[19:21] <SilverSpace> postavo i poziciju
[19:28] <SilverSpace> upgredao laptop
[19:41] <SilverSpace> http://is.gd/Zhalvv
[19:41] <SilverSpace> vidi ovo
[19:41] <SilverSpace> opop
[19:54] <SilverSpace> ln
[20:15] <jelly> Leon na HRT2, taj film mogu gledati nebrojeno puta
[20:57] <obruT> ja bas neki dan gledao opet...
[22:09] <jelly> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MrTsuvykUZk
[22:09] <datase> YouTube: The Professional -- Everyone - 0:00:14 - 1,024,913 views - 4431 likes / 40 dislikes
|
ubuntu-chat
|
2024-05-13T22:11:15.386469
| 2015-04-26T00:00:00 |
{
"license": "Public Domain",
"authors": [
"Mmike",
"SilverSpace",
"VjetarSaSunca",
"Vlado9A3CY",
"datase",
"dodobas",
"frainfreeze",
"jelly",
"markosejic",
"obruT",
"vileni"
],
"url": "https://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2015/04/26/%23ubuntu-hr.txt",
"channel": "#ubuntu-hr"
}
|
2015-04-26-#ubuntu-discuss
|
[04:09] <lotuspsychje> morning to all
[04:48] <ablest1980> hello
[11:36] <lotuspsychje> good afternoon
[11:57] <OerHeks> its a whopper ! http://fullcirclemagazine.org/2015/04/24/full-circle-magazine-96-its-a-whopper/
[12:00] <lotuspsychje> OerHeks: nice
[12:25] <BluesKaj> Hiyas all
[12:27] <lotuspsychje> BluesKaj: hello mate
[12:27] <BluesKaj> hey lotuspsychje
[12:50] <lordievader> o/
[12:50] <lotuspsychje> lordievader: hello mate
[12:51] <lordievader> Hey lotuspsychje, how are you?
[12:51] <lotuspsychje> fine
[13:06] <lotuspsychje> im sure 15.04 will give us alot of users with scrren issues like 14.10 again...
[13:06] <lotuspsychje> *screen
[13:07] <lordievader> Already lots of ppl with nvidia problems...
[13:07] <lotuspsychje> yep i also noticed lordievader
[13:45] <DJones> lordievader: From my own experience, nvidia works fine with nvidia/intel graphics
[13:45] <lordievader> Just reporting what I see ;)
[13:45] <DJones> Better than 14.10, I don't get errors every time I boot up
[13:46] <DJones> lordievader: No argument with that, if there are erros, they need reporting, I've not had any so far though
[13:47] <DJones> Maybe I'm just lucky :)
[13:50] <DJones> For the last 3 months of 14.10 I've had errors each boot about nvidia, something didn't work in an upgrade for nvidia-prime, thankfully that seems to have gone away after upgrade to 15.04
[14:13] <BluesKaj> DJones, some nvidia equipped pcs have a problem with the plasma 5 desktop and X on 15.04, it's hit and miss
[14:14] <BluesKaj> mostly KDE/Kubuntu afaik
[15:42] <DJones> BluesKaj: Ah, I've not used kde since I was installing slackware
[21:59] <MonkeyDust> there, installed kubuntu
[22:00] <daftykins> :D
[22:02] <MonkeyDust> oh, it has webbrowser too!
[22:02] <MonkeyDust> (silly joke)
[22:05] <daftykins> soon you'll be wanting to put a 'k' in front of every word :D
[22:10] <MonkeyDust> looks nice, but how do i get my initial desktop back? (this is in vmware, so no worries)
[22:11] <daftykins> as in another DE?
[22:11] <daftykins> log out and pick the session from the login screen?
[22:12] <MonkeyDust> no, the desktop can be changed to "folder" layout, i want that undone
[22:12] <daftykins> ah. never used it
|
ubuntu-chat
|
2024-05-13T22:11:15.390927
| 2015-04-26T00:00:00 |
{
"license": "Public Domain",
"authors": [
"BluesKaj",
"DJones",
"MonkeyDust",
"OerHeks",
"ablest1980",
"daftykins",
"lordievader",
"lotuspsychje"
],
"url": "https://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2015/04/26/%23ubuntu-discuss.txt",
"channel": "#ubuntu-discuss"
}
|
2015-04-26-#ubuntu
|
[00:00] <daftykins> \\Mr_C\\: you're in the wrong place.
[00:00] <\\Mr_C\\> not really
[00:00] <daftykins> yes, yes you are
[00:00] <daftykins> what is your ubuntu support question? :)
[00:00] <\\Mr_C\\> since ubuntu is made from debian
[00:01] <\\Mr_C\\> hi hows it going?
[00:01] <daftykins> what is your ubuntu support question? :)
[00:01] <Tinkerer> is there a way to delete the persistence file so that I start afresh?
[00:01] <daftykins> probably but no idea how.
[00:03] <Tinkerer> i have my ubuntu on the USB stick... how on earth could I format the persistance file? anyone?
[00:03] <cihhan> Hi all! I ve built a dhcp server for a couple of win machines; however even though i have a fast internet, the browsing is very slow. Do you have any suggestions?
[00:04] <EriC^^> Tinkerer: what are you talking about?
[00:04] <daftykins> Tinkerer: look it up.
[00:04] <bazhang> !usb
[00:04] <daftykins> cihhan: are you giving a router's DNS IPs or the ISPs?
[00:05] <EriC^^> Tinkerer: i mean what's your problem exactly?
[00:05] <bazhang> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LiveUsbPendrivePersistent Tinkerer read that
[00:05] <cihhan> daftykins: for the clients? i didnt understand your question, sorry.
[00:06] <daftykins> cihhan: yeah which DNS IPs are you dishing out via DHCP?
[00:07] <cihhan> daftykins: actually i am not sure. i havent checked it detailed. the truth is one of my friend did the initial installation and now im trying to understand why it is slow.
[00:09] <daftykins> cihhan: i see. "too many cooks" :)
[00:09] <Craigwell> any thoughts out there on the best way to clone to a larger HDD? I have a USB enclosure for the new drive I can use until swap in.
[00:10] <Craigwell> I have 14.04(Ext4), Win7 (NTFS), Ubuntu Swap, and a Common FAT32 Partition. I expect to re-size them all after cloning or ghosting
[00:10] <daftykins> clonezilla, it's a bootable ISO you can put on the flash drive
[00:10] <daftykins> i have cloned many drives with it in the past several months and love it
[00:10] <daftykins> resize them all? ooh.
[00:11] <Craigwell> daftykins: do i need to go bootable from usb if I have a usb enclosure for the target drive though?
[00:11] <Tinkerer> EriC^^: I installed a proprietary driver for Intel microcode (something for the Intel integrated graphics card Intel HD 4000) on Ubuntu 15.04 (64-bit, desktop version) live session and using a 4 GB persistence file... now after a live session restart, I can't get back to the live session because of a kernel panic error
[00:11] <cihhan> daftykins: ok i think i figured out the problem -- it was bcs of a wrong /etc/hosts file entry
[00:11] <Craigwell> daftykins: resize just to make them larger after the fact to fill out the extra space on target drive
[00:11] <noidea> when I "Find" files i am looking for, how would i go about exporting it to a document and have every separate file on a new line?
[00:11] <daftykins> Craigwell: you ideally want to be outside of any OS on the drive, yes
[00:11] <Craigwell> right, originating drive not booted. gotcha. What about livecd and gparted ?
[00:12] <daftykins> Craigwell: another way to achieve this would be to boot a Linux, then use gparted to make the new partitions on the new drive - then 'dd' the data over from one to the other. then use the OSs tools to increase the size after
[00:12] <EriC^^> noidea: you could use the terminal and type find /path -iname "something" > /path/to/savelist
[00:12] <Bashing-om> cihhan: DNS resolvement source; what is the nameserver ' cat /etc/resolv.conf ' ?
[00:12] <Craigwell> daftykins: ok. I get it.
[00:12] <daftykins> though thinking of it i'm not sure dd would work to go from smaller partitions to larger
[00:13] <EriC^^> Tinkerer: why don't you install ubuntu to your usb instead of using persistence
[00:13] <Craigwell> daftykins: the partitions can remain the same size during the clone, after the fact I could resize to make larger?
[00:13] <Tinkerer> bazhang: i read your link... there's no mention of a persistence file reformat
[00:13] <EriC^^> Tinkerer: persistence sucks, you can't update the kernel and what not and a usb install would be easy to do
[00:14] <daftykins> Craigwell: no, because resizing the first has a knock on effect to the start position of the second... and so on like dominos
[00:14] <Craigwell> I have an ext4 (14.04), win7 (ntfs) and a common (fat32) partition that I would all want to make larger after the cloning
[00:14] <daftykins> boot the Linux then partition up the drive with the intended partitions
[00:14] <daftykins> exFAT would be way better than FAT32
[00:15] <Craigwell> daftykins: ahhh yes, I see what you mean. In that case, I might be best to start from scratch..... I'm in no rush, so I'll continue to think it through
[00:15] <Tinkerer> is there a way to wipe the persistence file to be able to start the live session afresh or not?
[00:15] <daftykins> you keep asking yet keep ignoring peoples links
[00:16] <Craigwell> daftykins: my common fat32 was meant mainly for storage accessible to both win7 and 14.04. No programs run out of it
[00:16] <daftykins> i know but exFAT doesn't have the single file limitations FAT32 does :>
[00:16] <SchrodingersScat> could it even run software? does it permissions?
[00:17] <Craigwell> ahh ic
[00:17] <Tinkerer> daftykins: what links?
[00:17] <daftykins> scroll up and have a read
[00:20] <malgorath> So I installed 15.04 but its not seeing my wifi card, I'm connected via LAN cable right now, any idea what I can do?
[00:20] <daftykins> identify it to start with - "lspci | pastebinit"
[00:20] <Tinkerer> daftykins: I already read the links above but none answers my question
[00:20] <daftykins> Tinkerer: i'd be researching online then if i were you.
[00:20] <Tinkerer> is there a way to wipe the persistence file to be able to start the live session afresh or not -- that is my question
[00:21] <daftykins> yes i know what your question is, seen it 4 times now
[00:21] <Tinkerer> and you haven't answered yet
[00:21] <Tinkerer> no one has
[00:21] <Tinkerer> is this a Ubuntu help channel or not?
[00:22] <malgorath> Tinkerer, this is a voluntary Channel, getting huffy with people wont get you answered.
[00:22] <daftykins> ^ +1
[00:22] <daftykins> Tinkerer: bad attitudes do not grease my keyboard.
[00:22] <darthanubis> ^+2
[00:23] <Tinkerer> +go_fuck_yourselves
[00:23] <[n0mad]> lol
[00:23] <daftykins> oh dear well that's not friendly at all
[00:23] <daftykins> !language
[00:24] <malgorath> daftykins, http://paste.ubuntu.co m/10891987/
[00:24] <Tinkerer> ubottu, please visit my ass, mother fucker!
[00:24] <darthanubis> Tinkerer: you are done
[00:25] <[n0mad]> we might fight a way to wipe persistence after all
[00:25] <[n0mad]> *find
[00:25] <daftykins> malgorath: what kind of computer is it?
[00:25] <daftykins> desktop/laptop?
[00:26] <Tinkerer> then let's do it :)
[00:27] <Tinkerer> where is the persitence file located on the USB anyway?
[00:27] <daftykins> google will tell you.
[00:27] <darthanubis> Tinkerer: you are done
[00:27] <daftykins> your attitude means no more help for you.
[00:27] <wilrnh> Crap
[00:27] <malgorath> daftykins, its a Alienware laptop
[00:27] <wilrnh> I need to get home!
[00:28] <daftykins> malgorath: hrmm looks like an Atheros killer NIC for the wireless portion too
[00:28] <Tinkerer> *** FUCK YOU ALL ***
[00:28] <noidea> EriC: it did not print ever new file found on a new line, any suggestions?
[00:28] <darthanubis> Tinkerer: you are done
[00:29] <daftykins> !ops | Tinkerer
[00:29] <cristian> Hi guys someone tried to install 15.04 on a Thinkpad t430?
[00:29] <daftykins> malgorath: ah, i take it you've not had an ubuntu on this yet?
[00:29] <Tinkerer> *** FUCK YOU ALL ***
[00:30] <darthanubis> Tinkerer: you are done
[00:30] <malgorath> daftykins, know I just installed it today(dual booting with windows 8.1)
[00:30] <daftykins> malgorath: ah. can you also do a "lshw -C network | pastebinit" ?
[00:30] <faultyjohn> dualbooting?
[00:30] <faultyjohn> been there
[00:31] <malgorath> daftykins, http://paste.ubuntu.com/10892068/
[00:31] <malgorath> faultyjohn, this was just going to be a gaming laptop but i like the keyboard more then my mbpr
[00:31] <faultyjohn> gaming laptop
[00:31] <daftykins> malgorath: can you try "sudo modprobe ath9k" then repeat the "lshw -C network | pastebinit" ?
[00:32] <faultyjohn> better be i5 with 8gb of ram
[00:32] <malgorath> its i7 with 16GB and a 980GTX (4GB)
[00:32] <malgorath> daftykins, http://paste.ubuntu.com/10892082/
[00:33] <daftykins> malgorath: hmm nope :( sorry it looks like your adapter isn't supported on Linux yet
[00:33] <daftykins> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/1383184
[00:33] <malgorath> guess I'll have to use a wifi usb stick when I wanna get up from my desk in linux mode :D
[00:34] <daftykins> i'm afraid so! i'm sure they'll be working on it, the above bug seems relevant
[00:35] <daftykins> malgorath: apparently you could ask in #ath10k about the driver progress
[00:35] <malgorath> Its not the end of the world, I just wanted to get 'everything' working. my MBPr is a i7 16GB with a 750M GTX (2GB) card so I'm not dying for mobility but its just nice to have everything working
[00:36] <malgorath> daftykins, thanks I just might some time, I'm not gonna stress over it, I'm trying to learn to chill a bit not stress over it like someone we just saw :D
[00:36] <daftykins> :D
[00:36] <daftykins> ^5
[00:36] <malgorath> I'm just amazed that netflix works on linux now. That was a big shocker to me today.
[00:37] <malgorath> Guess I should lurk in -offtopic instead of that though
[00:37] <malgorath> er here though
[00:38] <faultyjohn> isn't netflix in-browser
[00:38] <malgorath> yes, but before the deal with google chrome it wouldn't work at all in ubuntu
[00:40] <Cuken> I wrote an upstart script, but its rejecting the command unless I run it with SUDO, is there a way for me to get it to auto launch without providing a su account?
[00:41] <faultyjohn> maybe
[00:41] <malgorath> Cuken, what port is it running on? I think below 1000 you need sudo
[00:41] <Cuken> Ill put it to 6000
[00:41] <Cuken> give it a shot, thanks malgorath
[00:41] <malgorath> np
[00:42] <Zephyr1138> I had dual booted my laptop with a linux partition. I want to recover my Win 8 partition for more storage space. Which paritions should I remove? http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=Supg8j8x
[00:43] <malgorath> Zephyr1138, do you mean you want to remove windows 8?
[00:43] <Zephyr1138> yep
[00:43] <darthanubis> remove all ntfs parttitions
[00:44] <faultyjohn> simple
[00:44] <daftykins> 3, 4, 5, 6 i'd say
[00:44] <faultyjohn> boot into windows
[00:44] <faultyjohn> then run
[00:44] <daftykins> but you won't be able to factory restore Windows if you murder #6
[00:44] <faultyjohn> dickmgmnt.msc
[00:44] <malgorath> just don't mess with 1 or 2
[00:44] <daftykins> faultyjohn: i really hope that's a terrible typo.
[00:44] <[n0mad]> unfortunate typos are funny
[00:44] <EriC^^> faultyjohn: ^
[00:44] <faultyjohn> is is
[00:44] <faultyjohn> kill me
[00:45] <faultyjohn> kill me now
[00:45] <faultyjohn> why
[00:45] <Zephyr1138> does the bios sit on parts 1 and 2?
[00:45] <daftykins> but shockingly you can't delete Windows from within Windows
[00:45] <malgorath> kill -9 faultyjohn
[00:45] <malgorath> :D
[00:45] <daftykins> the BIOS does not sit on disk at all :)
[00:45] <daftykins> the EFI boot files however, are on partition 2
[00:45] <faultyjohn> ping localhost -s 99999999999
[00:45] <daftykins> technically you only need 2 and 9 to boot
[00:46] <[n0mad]> if i was getting rid of my windows install i'd just backup and start over personally
[00:46] <Zephyr1138> daftykins, no suprize there... I'm doing this all while booted into my linux side
[00:46] <[n0mad]> repartition it alll
[00:47] <daftykins> yeah i'd backup my /home and nuke the thing from orbit really.
[00:47] <daftykins> it's the only way to be sure.
[00:47] <malgorath> +1
[00:49] <Zephyr1138> EFI (on part 2) is needed for Windows... I am purging my windows so its fair game to drop it?
[00:49] <EriC^^> no
[00:49] <EriC^^> helllll no
[00:49] <EriC^^> :P
[00:51] * [n0mad] just learned what the persistence file is :)
[00:52] <daftykins> Zephyr1138: no, you need partition 2
[00:53] <Zephyr1138> daftykins, I think you are right about that. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/EFI_System_partition confirms it.
[00:54] <daftykins> hehe, i do try to tell the truth
[00:54] <ki7rw> seems no matter what backup method i use i always lose data - i don't know of an easy way to make sure that the data is backed up
[00:54] <malgorath> tar
[00:55] <SchrodingersScat> use all of them
[00:55] <daftykins> clonezilla your whole drive and you'll never miss any!
[00:55] <EriC^^> write the bits on paper
[00:55] <Johnny_Linux> use a kodak printer
[00:55] <dlam> i wanna put an additional UTC date in the top bar, any way to do that?
[00:55] <EriC^^> Johnny_Linux: that's a good point
[00:56] * EriC^^ writes that down on his invisible chalkboard
[00:56] <ki7rw> EriC^^ is a funny guy
[00:56] <Johnny_Linux> D`oh!
[00:56] <Zephyr1138> daftykins, cd /boot/efi ; ls (shows EFI/ mach_kernel System/) ; df . (shows /dev/sda8 487652 122596 335360 27% /boot)
[00:57] <daftykins> i'm not sure what i'm to gain with this information?
[00:57] <EriC^^> daftykins: i think he's saying it's not 2 but 8
[00:58] <EriC^^> Zephyr1138: type gdisk -l /dev/sdX and see which has the ef00 partition type
[01:00] <Zephyr1138> EriC^^, that showed up as part 2.
[01:01] <EriC^^> Zephyr1138: ok, /boot is /dev/sda8 i guess /boot/efi is /dev/sda2
[01:01] <EriC^^> typing df alone would tell you
[01:03] <Zephyr1138> df alone just shows the active mount points. I don't mount the windows side... ever.
[01:03] <EriC^^> yeah but it should say /boot/efi
[01:04] <k_sze> So I'm reading this: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IptablesHowTo#Allowing_Established_Sessions
[01:04] <k_sze> How do I tell if my provider has enabled the extension? It would be both funny and sad at the same time if I lock myself out with bad iptables rules.
[01:11] <k_sze> I mean, just because an extension is listed in the iptables-extensions manpage doesn't mean it's actually enabled, does it?
[01:12] <ravigehlot> I can't get my Samsung Galaxy S4 device to show up as a device in Ubuntu. When I type lsblk on the command prompt, I don't see it
[01:20] <daftykins> ravigehlot: have you followed something like this? http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2226702
[01:28] <cristian> quit
[01:40] <LTS14N00b> Hi All, I've done a re-install of 14.04 from the 32 bit to 64 bit version, but have lost the ability to switch desktops with [Ctrl]-[Alt]-[Arrow key] and also the ability to "send
[01:41] <LTS14N00b> indivitual windows to another desktop
[01:43] <mjollnerd> What file does ubuntu use for setting the path variable? I know there's like one config file where that's it's only purpose in ubuntu, but I can't find it :|
[01:44] <EriC^^> mjollnerd: /etc/environment
[01:44] <mjollnerd> sweet! ty eric
[01:44] <EriC^^> np
[01:44] <urielsalis> EriC^^, How I add java_home to that?
[01:45] <EriC^^> urielsalis: sudo nano /etc/environment
[01:45] <EriC^^> if you want it globally i guess
[01:45] <urielsalis> yeah, but what do I do there? $JAVA_HOME=(javapath) or JAVA_HOME=(javapath) ?
[01:46] <EriC^^> JAVA_HOME= but i'm not sure what you're doing exactly.. check with the docs or something
[01:46] <urielsalis> Installing OpenJDK
[01:51] <DrDroid> Hi all.
[01:52] <erica647> When I try to open the Samba config tool in Lubuntu 15.04, it asks for the root password and just disappears. I've tried reading the forums but have so far found nothing that makes this work right. Any ideas?
[01:53] <Hailwood> Hi everyone, can someone please help me sort out my partitions. Basically it currently looks like this: http://i.imgur.com/5qCNzWl.png what I want to do is remove the current Swap partition, and make the 300GB partition swallow that space back up, then in the free 89GB block I want to create a new 16GB swap partition.
[01:53] <Ben64> erica647: what happens if you run it from terminal
[01:53] <urielsalis> How I can use more than one email in evolution?
[01:54] <erica647> Can you help me run it from terminal to try it?
[01:54] <Ben64> Hailwood: do you need to hibernate or something? 16GB swap seems like a lot. its a lot of steps, would be easier to add a 10GB swap partition after
[01:55] <Ben64> erica647: on the password dialog, does it have the name of the samba tool?
[01:55] <erica647> it says system-config-samba
[01:56] <Ben64> erica647: open a terminal, type that
[01:56] <Hailwood> Ben64, I run a Java IDE, a virtualbox machine, a few build processes, and google-chrome all at the same time. If I can use a dual swap partition setup then that would work.
[01:56] <erica647> ok it says it can't open the configuration file /etc/libuser.conf
[01:57] <Ben64> erica647: ooh, try "sudo system-config-samba"
[01:57] <Ben64> Hailwood: maybe you just need more ram? but yeah, theres not anything stopping you from using 2 or more swap partitions
[01:58] <erica647> I get the same error with sudo
[01:58] <Hailwood> Ben64, unfortunately it would seem 8GB is that max my laptops mobo can take.
[01:58] <erica647> Do I just need to create that file then?
[01:59] <Ben64> erica647: what is the output of 'ls -l /etc/libuser.conf'
[01:59] <[n0mad]> split!
[01:59] <thiebaude> !split
[02:00] <erica647> no such file or directory
[02:00] <Ben64> erica647: how about "apt-cache show libuser1"
[02:00] <Ben64> erica647: it will be lots of lines, please use a pastebin
[02:01] <erica647> That gave me a lot of info
[02:01] <Ben64> erica647: yep, put it in http://paste.ubuntu.com
[02:02] <skender> i installed a packge with checkinstall, can i delete the .deb it created?
[02:03] <Ben64> skender: if you don't care about uninstalling it ever, sure
[02:03] <erica647> Ben64... just pasted it there
[02:04] <Ben64> erica647: need the link to it
[02:04] <skender> ok, so i best make a folder for all my packages?
[02:04] <Ben64> skender: yeah thats an option
[02:04] <skender> and dpkg -r libvpx will work, whereever i move it?
[02:05] <Ben64> skender: you might need to use the path to the deb
[02:05] <erica647> http://paste.ubuntu.com/10892711/
[02:06] <skender> ok tyvm
[02:07] <Ben64> erica647: how about 'apt-cache policy libuser1 system-config-samba python-libuser'
[02:08] <k_sze> And what's up with this manpage? http://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/utopic/en/man8/iptables-extensions.8.html
[02:09] <k_sze> "This module, when combined with connection tracking, allows access to the connection tracking state for this packet/connection."
[02:09] <erica647> it says apt-cache command not found
[02:09] <Ben64> erica647: you may have typed it incorrectly
[02:09] <k_sze> "*combined* with connection tracking"??? I thought conntrack *is* connection tracking!?
[02:11] <erica647> http://paste.ubuntu.com/10892755/
[02:12] <TiK> erica647: whats your question?
[02:13] <TiK> apt-cache is a search feature apt-cache search whatever apt-get install is an install program
[02:13] <erica647> Am working with Ben64 on a Samba question
[02:13] <darthanubis> http://pastebin.com/5v02NVQ0
[02:14] <TiK> erica647: uhm apt-cache search or apt-get install ...
[02:15] <[n0mad]> TiK, couldn't you just scroll up and read and see that instructions are being followed?
[02:15] <lighta> does someone use apt-cacher-ng for centos here ?
[02:16] <erica647> Was just typing what Ben told me... are you taking over for him TiK?
[02:18] <erica647> Ben64 are you still there?
[02:20] <[n0mad]> erica647: maybe try this link https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+question/31292
[02:20] <[n0mad]> a few responses down someone just created that config file and it was fine
[02:20] <[n0mad]> and samba apparently didn't even use it
[02:21] <erica647> ok Thanks Ben64 and n0mad! I'm off to do some reading
[02:23] <Shurtagul> Kubuntu keeps blanking to a blank color randomly and theres no way to recover. Its happening way more frequently too.. does anyone know a solution for this?
[02:23] <EriC^^> Shurtagul: maybe that's the screensaver
[02:23] <EriC^^> try typing your password when it goes blank ( even if there's no box ) and it should work i think
[02:24] <EriC^^> forgot what the package was for that screensaver
[02:24] <Shurtagul> Why would it go blank while Im actively doing stuff
[02:24] <EriC^^> oh
[02:28] <q_> I can't solve this problem. Could somebody help plz.. And sorry there is some Chinese words..
[02:28] <q_> E: brltty: 子进程 已安装 post-installation 脚本 返回了错误号 1
[02:29] <EriC^^> q_: try running the command with LANG=C before it
[02:29] <EriC^^> and paste the output in paste.ubuntu.com
[02:30] <q_> Thank you. I will try .
[02:34] <p5yc071c> can someone help with a real simple issue? I'm trying to install ubuntu and it keeps booting into a blank screen
[02:37] <nahtnam> Hey! When I try updating and upgrading via terminal, I get this error: https://gist.github.com/nahtnam/f523db456bc232329acd What should I do?
[02:37] <Bashing-om> !nomodeset p5yc071c Have you tried :
[02:37] <Bashing-om> !nomodeset | p5yc071c Have you tried :
[02:38] <barack_obama> hi
[02:39] <p5yc071c> is that two bots talking to each other?
[02:42] <Bashing-om> p5yc071c: No, was me fat fingering getting your attention to the bot's reply. See what the boot parameter "nomodeset" does .
[02:43] <p5yc071c> thank you
[02:44] <rooly> does anybody know how to get pci-passthrough working?
[02:44] <tomreyn> through what?
[02:44] <rooly> libvirt/kvm
[02:45] <rooly> i've got the device showing up in the guest (win7)
[02:45] <Bashing-om> nahtnam: Does not look like that PPA - http://ppa.launchpad.net/jon-severinsson/ - is maintained . Disable that PPA in Software Sources and try again .
[02:45] <tomreyn> there's a how-to, it's not too hard, unless you're talking video / graphics card
[02:45] <rooly> its an r9 270x
[02:46] <rooly> i'm getting AMD-Vi [IO_PAGE_FAULT...] spammed to my syslog before the guest blue-screens
[02:46] <tomreyn> http://www.linux-kvm.org/page/How_to_assign_devices_with_VT-d_in_KVM
[02:47] <rooly> yes, i've followed that tutorial
[02:47] <rooly> and numerous others
[02:47] <tomreyn> which device are you trying to pass through?
[02:47] <Bashing-om> rooly: Check on ubuntuforums site, there are a couple of bug reports on that grahics card . QIII is working it .
[02:47] <rooly> amd r9 270x tomreyn
[02:48] <tomreyn> well graphics cards usually don't work, but there are a few exceptions to that rule
[02:48] <tomreyn> the issue there is that it's not just plain pci passthrough but a lot more complicated
[02:48] <rooly> i've noted several mentions of a vga-arbiter patch in the arch forums
[02:49] <nahtnam> Bashing-om: Thanks. It worked
[02:49] <rooly> but i'm using an AMD APU (7850k) as my host graphics
[02:49] <tomreyn> video bios'es are usually proprietary, differ amopngst models, assign memory locations dynamically. remapping those to the gues and not making the host burp isn't trivial
[02:50] <Bashing-om> nahtnam: If 'ffmpeg' is a favorite, I understand that it is again supported in 15.04 .
[02:51] <tomreyn> rooly: did you try this one? https://wiki.debian.org/VGAPassthrough#Configuration_.232_.282x_AMD.29
[02:53] <tomreyn> also when you despair, here's a self-help community: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2111175
[02:53] <rooly> tomreyn: yes, i'll go through it again. thanks for the second link
[02:54] <tomreyn> good luck + good riddance
[02:55] <ani> guys, is the daniel.pavel/solaar repo down??
[02:55] <ani> my apt-get update is giving errors.
[02:56] <tomasm-> hey, how can I get chrome to be my default browser in ubuntu? I'm tired of having firefox open from thunderbird or links in X-irc, etc.
[02:58] <tomreyn> ani: it's hosted on launchpad, which is a high availability 'system', so unless routing is an issue it should be available. https://launchpad.net/~daniel.pavel/+archive/ubuntu/solaar
[02:58] <Bashing-om> tomasm-: TRY: ' sudo update-alternatives --config x-www-browser ' .
[02:58] <tomreyn> however, you may want to reconsider using the packages from there since it hasn't seen any updates for more than a year
[02:59] <tomreyn> tomasm-: that's an interactive command, you need to run it in a terminal
[02:59] <tomasm-> Bashing-om, hm, do i need to restart X?
[03:00] * tomreyn thinks you will need to restart X to apply this change
[03:00] <ani> it has the package for logitech unifying receiver
[03:01] <Bashing-om> tomasm-: I honestly do not remember .. will not hurt after running the command to re-boot to clear memory and see if chrome is now the default browser ,
[03:01] <tomasm-> oh nvm, i accidentally set it to the wrong number.
[03:11] <tuv0k> http://pastebin.com/5v02NVQ0
[03:12] <tuv0k> my apt is broken because of mime-support
[03:12] <tuv0k> how to resolve please?
[03:13] <Ljango> 中文
[03:13] <Ljango> ～～
[03:15] <Ljango> ……
[03:15] <aeon-ltd> !cn
[03:16] <Ljango> 谢谢
[03:20] <[n0mad]> oh, never ever seen chinese in irc before
[03:23] <harris> hey bazhang
[03:47] <allstarsnorks2> Hello there. Can I upgrade GTK version in 12.04 to 3.10/3.12?
[03:48] <tuv0k> http://pastebin.com/5v02NVQ0
[03:48] <p5yc071c> bashing-om, that worked, thanks!
[03:50] <Bashing-om> p5yc071c: :) .. you do good work .
[03:57] <tomreyn> allstarsnorks2: not without major breakage.
[03:57] <tomreyn> upgrade to 14.04 instead
[03:58] <allstarsnorks2> but remastersys won't work on 14.04
[03:58] <tomreyn> whats that?
[03:58] <allstarsnorks2> a remastering software that recreates your whole system and fits them to a CD
[03:59] <tomreyn> and you need this because?
[04:00] <tomreyn> i can imagine some use cases, just windering which is yours.
[04:00] <allstarsnorks2> remastering my current setup and sharing it
[04:02] <tomreyn> hmm try uck
[04:02] <harris> hey
[04:02] <harris> keep changes made in compiz after you uninstall compiz
[04:22] <superboot> Hi all. I'm used to init scripts, and I think the newest ubuntu uses something else. What is it called?
[04:23] <harris> hey
[04:24] <lotuspsychje> superboot: systemd
[04:24] <harris> superboot, you can use the systemd or the old one
[04:24] <harris> how do i make the top panel transparent
[04:25] <tgm4883> is there a site similar to packages.ubuntu.com for armhf packages?
[04:25] <lotuspsychje> harris: maube with ccsm
[04:25] <harris> lotuspsychje, compiz slows ubuntu down too much
[04:26] <rahulprodev> Hello, morning :)
[04:26] <rahulprodev> is there way to know mother board name from ubuntu?
[04:27] <Rand0m`> rahulprodev, try lspci
[04:27] <rahulprodev> Rand0m`,
[04:27] <rahulprodev> ok thanks
[04:27] <lotuspsychje> rahulprodev: or sudo dmidecode -t 2
[04:28] <lotuspsychje> harris: i think you can set panel opacity in unity plugin from ccsm
[04:28] <splitwire> rahul prodev: installing hardinfo might also help out
[04:29] <rahulprodev> thanks lotuspsychje It's sony corporation board :)
[04:30] <harris> on 15.04 in terminal why is it Y/n instead of y/n
[04:34] <houyi> 什么鬼？
[04:35] <lotuspsychje> !zn | houyi
[04:35] <houyi> 有人？
[04:35] <lotuspsychje> !ch | houyi
[04:35] <lotuspsychje> hmm
[04:35] <lotuspsychje> !zh | houyi
[04:37] <rooly> has something changed in 15.04 that makes /etc/modules or /etc/initramfs-tools/modules not take effect?
[04:38] <houyi> Can you speak Chinese?
[04:38] <lotuspsychje> houyi: in #ubuntu-cn
[04:39] <houyi> join #ubuntu-cn
[04:41] <rooly> nobody?
[04:47] <ki7mt> rooly, Just guessing, but SysD maybe ?
[04:49] <ki7mt> rooly, This may shed some light on things: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SystemdForUpstartUsers
[04:50] <rooly> ki7mt: i thought as much too, but i followed http://www.freedesktop.org/software/systemd/man/modules-load.d.html
[04:52] <lonixlon> hey guys hoping someone can help me, I have an OpenVPN client set up on my machine, problem is that when the client is connected I can no longer ssh into the machine from the internet, i suspect that when the ssh server is trying to respond the packets are going out through tun0 instead of eth0 anyone know how to fix this?
[04:53] <ki7mt> rooly, Normally, freedesktop is a very good source, but, seeing how this is the first roll out for UB, things may not be 100% yet That why I went to the Ubuntu reference first.
[04:55] <ki7mt> lonixlon, I think that is the purpose of the tunnel, to Isolate one pipe, and prevent intrusion ( aka, the second ssh attempt) is it not?
[04:57] <lonixlon> ki7mt, yes to some extent, but I need to be able to access the machine I want to tunnel all traffic except ssh
[05:00] <ki7mt> lonixlon, I'd have to look at that, but I think all traffic in the VPN is through SSH .. but need to look at bit more, Iv'e not messed with that in a long while.
[05:00] <xavii> i upgraded my ram from 4gb to 10gb and my ubuntu wont boot, it gets stuck on loading initram disk, ram tested fine on the machine on memtest
[05:00] <ki7mt> lonixlon, So to paraphrase ; you want to SSH into the server or client, whiel the tunnel is active ?
[05:01] <lonixlon> ki7mt, correct
[05:01] <ki7mt> lonixlon, Ok, I'll go dig a bit on it.
[05:02] <ki7mt> xavii, Doe it work if you stick the 4GB back in ? 10GB is an odd number though.
[05:02] <ki7mt> .. Does it ..
[05:02] <xavii> ki7mt, yes it does. its 2gb+8gb
[05:02] <lonixlon> ki7mt, thanks, ive been working on it for about 2 hrs and im just about to give up
[05:03] <ki7mt> lonixlon, To be clean, what is the actual erro your getting when trying to SSH in while the tunnel is up.
[05:04] <lonixlon> ki7mt, there is no error, just no response
[05:04] <lonixlon> ki7mt, timed out
[05:05] <ki7mt> xavii, Could be all sorts of things .. does the MB support >= 8GB or 10GB of RAM ? Mis-Matched tiummings on the Ram sticks, DDR3 v.s. DDR2 things like that, check the obvious first. Try 4GB of the 8GB your adding, see the results etc.
[05:05] <lonixlon> ki7mt, i have checked with tcpdump and the server receives the packet but no response
[05:05] <ki7mt> lonixlon, Ok, well that really is annoying :-)
[05:08] <ki7mt> lonixlon, first, are you sure you have your keys correct ?
[05:08] <lonixlon> ki7mt, everything connects great when the tunnel is down
[05:09] <ki7mt> lonixlon, Ok, check the ports when the tunnel is up ?
[05:09] <ki7mt> lonixlon, then ensure (and Im not sure how to test it) the IP addy is within range.
[05:10] <ki7mt> lonixlon, and I would read though, the openvpn.conf just to meke sure there's nothing obvious there.
[05:11] <k_sze_> Weird. I'm running Ubuntu 15.04 on a Linode instance.
[05:12] <k_sze_> The /lib/modules/`uname -r`/ directory is basically empty.
[05:14] <k_sze_> There is, however, /lib/modules/3.19.0-15-generic
[05:14] <lonixlon> ki7mt, do you know how to make all packets headed for port 22 get routed to a different gateway
[05:14] <k_sze_> but my kernel is apparently 3.19.1-x86_64-linode53
[05:15] <dreamon> Im searching double files by using fslint. I earned a long list, so I want to mark some with a pattern. I want to delete all of them with "Backup" in its path. how can I set this pattern?
[05:15] <k_sze_> Does that mean I still need to install libnetfilter-conntrack3?
[05:18] <ki7mt> lonixlon, the commands exacrly, no, but, in general, packet forwarding, the sshd.conf, UFW needs to allow it, may need to redirect the gateway .. it's been a long time since I done anything with VPN .. was just trying to help a bit as nobody else chimed in.
[05:19] <ki7mt> dreamon, "Double Files" . .. what are those exactly
[05:20] <lonixlon> ki7mt, thanks really appreciate it I think Iv'e found it just gotta make it work http://www.linuxhorizon.ro/iproute2.html
[05:21] <dreamon> ki7mt, file on different location with same content and size. (im my case photos and movies)
[05:22] <Wugbom> Hi. Ubuntu is very laggy for me. For starters, how do I open terminal? :D
[05:22] <Wugbom> Wait. I got terminal up, finally. :D Okay, what should I do? It's laggy.
[05:23] <gioankminh> hello
[05:23] <ki7mt> Wugbom, Terminal .. ( Ctrl + Alt + T ) .. works on almost all Ubuntu flavors.
[05:23] <Wugbom> I'm looking at "top" It looks like "compiz" is using up to 30% of my cpu.
[05:24] <Wugbom> It spikes when I touch the keyboard.
[05:24] <ki7mt> Wugbom, But what it the total load and load averages ?
[05:24] <Wugbom> I wanted to check to see if my partition was overloading or something.
[05:24] <gioankminh> what is the IDM (internet Download Manager) of ubuntu ?
[05:24] <Wugbom> What's a load?
[05:25] <kostkon> Wugbom, what's your graphics card?
[05:25] <ki7mt> Wugbom, top | grep 'load average' ; q to quit
[05:25] <Wugbom> It's some old AGP card. I know it has a lot of onboard ram.
[05:26] <ki7mt> AGP .. not good
[05:26] <Wugbom> It says: 2 users" up 12 min. Load average: 0.17, 0.59, 0.52
[05:26] <gioankminh> what is the IDM (internet Download Manager) of ubuntu ?
[05:26] <Wugbom> 16 root 0 -20 0 0 0 ....
[05:27] <Wugbom> Let me type it all out:
[05:27] <ki7mt> Wugbom, That load ave says things are OK with CPU loading then.
[05:28] <Wugbom> top - 22:27:10 up 13 min, 2 users, load average: 0.09, 0.52, 0.50 {new line} 17 root 0 -20 0 0 0 $ 0.0 0.0 0:00.00 k{something}
[05:28] <Wugbom> What I'm worried about is the possibility that I've put more data onto a partition than is acceptable because my older brother set this system up, and I remember he made that mistake on my system, twice.
[05:28] <Wugbom> Other than that, I have no idea.
[05:28] <Stifler> Wugbom, not the cpu. When you first booted it was only 50% (I assume you only have one core, since its AGP)
[05:29] <Wugbom> I know the north bridge fan is going insane.
[05:29] <Stifler> Now your at about 9%
[05:29] <ki7mt> gioankminh, there are many alternatives, wget and curl from command line, then all sorts of apps from GUI / Desktop.
[05:29] <Wugbom> It still spikes the cpu % to 30-40% when I use the keyboard
[05:30] <Wugbom> "haley" (the username) and "root" both spike.
[05:30] <Wugbom> compiz and xorg, respectively in the "command" column.
[05:32] <rishianand> Upgraded to vivid vervet
[05:32] <rishianand> 15.04
[05:33] <ki7mt> jha_ji, please stop sending me PM's please, use the channel for questions.
[05:34] <Stifler> Wugbom; install sysstat, and run iostat -xd sda 1
[05:34] <Stifler> watch hdd usage
[05:36] <ki7mt> can also use HTOP has allot of nice info about chasing down usage
[05:37] <Stifler> also iotop
[05:37] <peterrooney> I am struggling with how to characterize a problem I'm having on 14.04. on logging in lightdm to default desktop, I'm presented with only the background. If I switch to a VT and back, the side panel and desktop items appear (but are entirely unresponsive), and the top menu bar has nothing in it. Alt-F2 also has no effect.
[05:39] <kostkon> peterrooney, you could try resetting you unity & compiz configuration
[05:39] <kostkon> peterrooney, http://www.webupd8.org/2012/10/how-to-reset-compiz-and-unity-in-ubuntu.html
[05:39] <peterrooney> kostkon: fresh install.
[05:40] <kostkon> peterrooney, right
[05:40] <ilk> i just did upgrade to U server 15 and I am having an issue when i do apt-get update its fail to resolve
[05:40] <ilk> anyone else get that?
[05:40] <Wugbom> hehe. I need to get root
[05:41] <Wugbom> well, anyway, at least the problem they were worried about isn't coming up. They thought the entire system would freeze.
[05:41] <ki7mt> ilk, fales to resolve what, repository, p addy, what the actual error ?
[05:44] <ilk> Err http://us.archive.ubuntu.com vivid InRelease | Temporary failure resolving 'us.archive.ubuntu.com' | W: Failed to fetch http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/vivid/InRelease
[05:44] <keltim> histreedit off <- whose idea was that over at ubuntu, anyway ?
[05:45] <ilk> ki7mt they all failed
[05:45] <ki7mt> ilk, Well, form the server. make sure you can ping the DNS names, if you can, may need to do a clean up, remove any PPA's the update,
[05:46] <ki7mt> .. then update
[05:49] <ilk> yeha ok it wont ping anything
[05:49] <houyi_> 中文
[05:50] <rooly> so apparently the affects of /etc/initramfs-tools/modules is not accurate in systemd
[05:51] <rooly> i'll go try it under upstart real quick
[05:51] <rooly> i'm gonna be pretty upset if that's the cause of the last 2 hours of not doing what is configured
[05:54] <ki7mt> ilk, Check your DNS /etc/resolv.conf ... you need to get networking sorted out first.
[05:56] <rooly> ok good, it isn't a systemd problem
[06:07] <HerroWorlds> whyyyy does no one know how to set up a socks server on ubuntu!? i swear im at like 10 hours of googling getting no where
[06:10] <ilk> ki7mt i really messed up somewhere, i got an x session up and the welcome loging screen says Debian 8, when i start x it randomly logs me out
[06:11] <ilk> i think it will be faster to do a fresh install of 15 rather than try to fix it
[06:20] <ubuntu-mate> Hi there, I have just installed ubuntu mate 15.04 and when I reboot the system it is not booting :/ it boots to instramfs, in one of the ttys it shows **/modules.dep.bin
[06:21] <ubuntu-mate> I don't remember whole message sory :/
[06:21] <ubuntu-mate> I don't remember whole message sorry :/
[06:21] <ubuntu-mate> how should I fix that problem ?
[06:21] <eikon81g> did you install from a dvd or a thumbdrive?
[06:22] <ubuntu-mate> thumbdrive
[06:22] <eikon81g> prior to this install did you have a working copy of Ubuntu running on that machine?
[06:22] <ubuntu-mate> Elementary os
[06:22] <ubuntu-mate> freya
[06:22] <eikon81g> you did a full format?
[06:22] <eikon81g> (fresh install)
[06:23] <ubuntu-mate> I used guided install erase everything and install
[06:23] <ubuntu-mate> It showed that it will create swap partition and root
[06:23] <ubuntu-mate> on /sda
[06:23] <eikon81g> right. Did you use LVM?
[06:23] <ubuntu-mate> nope
[06:23] <ubuntu-mate> and no encryption
[06:24] <eikon81g> yea good, I had some issues with that..
[06:24] <eikon81g> how'd you make the usb installeR?
[06:24] <ubuntu-mate> Could it be because of nvidia ? something ?
[06:24] <ubuntu-mate> unetbootin
[06:25] <eikon81g> I mean maybe I am no expert but you could always use the bootflag nomodeset
[06:25] <eikon81g> !nomodeset
[06:25] <Captonjamason> i need some help install KickStart on ubuntu 15.04
[06:25] <eikon81g> I don't know ubuntu-mate you sure your original ISO checksum is good?
[06:25] <ubuntu-mate> ok thanks I will try that
[06:26] <ubuntu-mate> I haven't checked it :/
[06:26] <ubuntu-mate> it might been corrupted :/
[06:26] <eikon81g> seems like if the install went ok and it is just giving you that I'd probably try to format again and then install fresh to see if it gives you the same thing..
[06:26] <eikon81g> maybe ubuntu-mate
[06:27] <ubuntu-mate> I tried 3 times :) 2 of them I used guided the last one i tried bu formatting myself
[06:27] <eikon81g> ahh
[06:27] <eikon81g> ok well then you are on the right path..
[06:27] <eikon81g> try to get the full error and maybe one of the experts can give us some more info
[06:28] <rooly> welp, systemd broke plex! yay
[06:28] <ubuntu-mate> :)
[06:30] <eikon81g> ubuntu-mate, you could always try to install 14.10 and do an upgrade as well..
[06:31] <eikon81g> as long as that flys then it's the same diff. presumably..
[06:31] <eikon81g> I was thinking about doing an upgrade but I may just do a fresh install
[06:32] <eikon81g> I just started a new job and I don't really have time to spend tweaking it again so I am hesitant.. I run Xubuntu though
[06:32] <ubuntu-mate> hmm
[06:32] <rooly> plex issue solved in https://forums.plex.tv/index.php/topic/153638-ubuntu-moved-to-systemd-no-service-and-unable-to-start/
[06:32] <ubuntu-mate> well it's weekend so I'm tweaking my machines
[06:33] <ubuntu-mate> looks like I will need to get up from my bed and turn on my pc to make usb installer for my laptop :D
[06:33] <ubuntu-mate> again
[06:35] <eikon81g> Lol..
[06:35] <eikon81g> I mean if you are trying Ubuntu 15.04 maybe you could try another distro.. Maybe Xubuntu 15.04.. It's crafty.. I wasn't really a fan of unity
[06:36] <ubuntu-mate> I'm not a fan of unity also
[06:36] <eikon81g> xfce is enjoyable (so far)
[06:36] <ubuntu-mate> and not a fan of xfce
[06:36] <ubuntu-mate> at least was
[06:36] <eikon81g> bummer.
[06:36] <ubuntu-mate> until i tried
[06:36] <ubuntu-mate> bummer cant remmember the distro name
[06:37] <ubuntu-mate> one that is derivate form arch
[06:37] <ubuntu-mate> but I like debian family more so ..
[06:38] <ubuntu-mate> or I could try ubuntu minimal and from there install ubuntu-mate-desktop package :?
[06:39] <eikon81g> !lubuntu
[06:39] <eikon81g> !lubuntu | ubuntu-mate
[06:40] <ubuntu-mate> I used lubuntu up until mate showed up :3
[06:40] <kingbeowolf> I really like unity
[06:41] <kingbeowolf> everything else always has some kind of problems
[06:41] <ubuntu-mate> well there are lots of use cases where one likes one and another likes another
[06:41] <kingbeowolf> haven't used everything though
[06:41] <work_alkisg> unity doesn't work without 3d though, that's a big problem by itself
[06:41] <kingbeowolf> lots of just basic things dont work in some DE
[06:42] <kingbeowolf> what computer doesn't have 3D nowadays?
[06:42] <ubuntu-mate> yea well unity is supported by cannonical so
[06:42] <eikon81g> I like xubuntu.. when I installed ubuntu and tried to install xfce over top of it it went haywire.
[06:42] <alkisg> More than 50% of existing pcs don't have 3d
[06:42] <ubuntu-mate> I just like old school way of managing my pc so I don't like unity or gnome3 :/
[06:42] <eikon81g> the tailored distrobutions are cleaner
[06:42] <kingbeowolf> lightdm is the best login software i have used
[06:43] <ubuntu-mate> well I like lightdm too :)
[06:43] <eikon81g> I like the ability to chose your DE at login but I stick to just one so it doesn't get much use..
[06:43] <kingbeowolf> i like the old school way, but i really like just typing to launch my programs
[06:43] <alkisg> lightdm doesn't support non-english keyboards
[06:43] <eikon81g> bummer on the language support :\ I did not know that.
[06:44] <ubuntu-mate> strange I use lightdm with Lithuanian keyboard :?
[06:44] <kingbeowolf> ubuntu-mate, yeah one of the things that has annoyed me about everything else is when i plug my laptop into HDMI and the damn login screen is still on the laptop but doesn't switch back and forth based on where you mouse is at
[06:44] <alkisg> ubuntu-mate: what's your `setxkbmap -query | grep layout` ?
[06:44] <kingbeowolf> alkisg, that sucks ..
[06:44] <ubuntu-mate> I'm on live image so it will be en
[06:45] <alkisg> ubuntu-mate: all countries that need 2 keyboards there, e.g. "us,gr", only get the first one supported
[06:45] <ubuntu-mate> I'm wrong it says layout: lt,lt
[06:45] <ubuntu-mate> :D
[06:45] <Chuck_Norris> Old school: http://paste.ubuntu.com/10894405/
[06:45] * Chuck_Norris just saying :p
[06:45] <alkisg> ubuntu-mate: so you're lucky that you don't have to switch your keyboard to type english with alt+shift or so, it wouldn't work, you wouldn't even be able to type your password
[06:46] <ubuntu-mate> Neet desktop
[06:46] <mantys89> is there any way change default terminal in nautilus to terminator, i have ubuntu 15.04 with Unity...
[06:46] <alkisg> The lt,lt is a bug of ubiquity, it had that for 5+ years now
[06:46] <alkisg> For greece it's gr,gr,gr,gr,gr, 5 times :)
[06:46] <ubuntu-mate> yea it did -.-
[06:46] <kingbeowolf> alkisg, to bad the whole world doesn't just speak one language
[06:47] <alkisg> Yes it would make it simpler for ubuntu developers :D
[06:47] <kingbeowolf> lets all just speak some obscure language
[06:47] <ubuntu-mate> yea I hate supporting lots of languages
[06:47] <ubuntu-mate> when I write software
[06:47] <Guest36387> if you would like translate your keybord in french or in anower languages you can do it in parameters tool and in the configuration of keybord select your languages
[06:48] <alkisg> That only works in gnome and only after login
[06:48] <alkisg> Xorg supports multiple keyboards for decades now
[06:48] <alkisg> Ubuntu and gnome and lightdm just decided to break it...
[06:49] <kingbeowolf> alkisg, plasma kdm?
[06:49] <Guest36387> personnaly i use french keybord i speak english a little beat and i program my software in french i develop in php and bash
[06:49] <alkisg> All other DEs work fine, mate, gnome-flashback, lxde, kde etc
[06:49] <alkisg> *unless they use lightdm for login
[06:49] <Guest36387> no plasma in my home just a little screen
[06:49] <alkisg> With autologin it works fine
[06:49] <Guest36387> i hate tv
[06:50] <kingbeowolf> i plug my laptop into the tv all the time
[06:50] <kingbeowolf> watch movies
[06:50] <Guest36387> sorry but how are you simes yesterday
[06:50] <Guest36387> ??
[06:51] <kingbeowolf> unity remembers my screen brightness settings
[06:51] <Guest36387> i look at youtube tv
[06:51] <kingbeowolf> plasma doesn't
[06:51] <kingbeowolf> cinnamon doesn't
[06:51] <kingbeowolf> gnome doesn't
[06:51] <kingbeowolf> something so simple that is just annoying
[06:51] <alkisg> That's probably a problem with upstream
[06:51] <alkisg> *upstart
[06:51] <ubuntu-mate> kingbeowolf we got your point :)
[06:52] <kingbeowolf> haha
[06:52] <alkisg> The gnome login services got rewritten as upstart services
[06:52] <alkisg> So they broke them so that they only work with unity :)
[06:52] <alkisg> Hopefully now with systemd less things will be broken by unity+upstart
[06:52] <ubuntu-mate> I allways use my laptop on full brightness so I don't really need this feature
[06:53] <kingbeowolf> ubuntu-mate, sometimes ill watch tv late at night
[06:53] <ubuntu-mate> alkisg, that's why I was excited with systemd
[06:53] <eikon81g> I have a 32in lcd mounted on the wall above my desk and I use my laptop screen and the lcd as a secondary.. It's annoying getting the screen settings to play nice
[06:53] <kingbeowolf> "tv"
[06:53] <kingbeowolf> unity remembers screen settings
[06:53] <kingbeowolf> even DPI
[06:53] <alkisg> ubuntu-mate: I wouldn't mind if all other DEs adopted upstart... but I do mind when ubuntu diverts too much from upstream, because too many things stay broken forever
[06:54] <eikon81g> i have xubuntu 14.10 and I am using vga bc the machine I run is OLD
[06:54] <eikon81g> lol
[06:54] <ubuntu-mate> alkisg, well that's true :/
[06:54] <kingbeowolf> upgrade time
[06:54] <Guest36387> i use ubuntu the 14.05 version
[06:55] <Guest36387> on laptop
[06:55] <siegfried> 14.05?
[06:55] <kingbeowolf> :D
[06:55] <ki7mt> .04 :-)
[06:55] <eikon81g> 14.04?
[06:55] <eikon81g> yea..
[06:55] <Guest36387> i think
[06:55] <ubuntu-mate> :)
[06:55] <Guest36387> yes sorry
[06:55] <kingbeowolf> he got the special version
[06:55] <ki7mt> indeed
[06:55] <ubuntu-mate> my first thought was where did he got that :D
[06:56] <eikon81g> lol night guys I'll get on later, It's late here..
[06:56] <Guest36387> yesterday i see a conversation i guy upload a 15.04 version it's true she realy exist ??
[06:56] <eikon81g> adios!
[06:56] <kingbeowolf> late
[06:56] <ubuntu-mate> adios
[06:56] <kingbeowolf> yeah im using 15.04 now
[06:57] <ubuntu-mate> I'm trying to install 15.04 on my machine -.-\
[06:57] <ubuntu-mate> no luck so far
[06:57] <alkisg> Why?
[06:57] <ubuntu-mate> modprobe.dep.bin problem
[06:57] <ki7mt> There is a bot that has the info, I can't remember what it is though.
[06:57] <ubuntu-mate> “Could not open moddep file '/lib/modules/3.XX-generic/modules.dep.bin'”
[06:58] <alkisg> And then what, blank screen?
[06:58] <ubuntu-mate> no instramfs
[06:58] <ubuntu-mate> shows up
[06:58] <alkisg> Ouch
[06:58] <ubuntu-mate> sorry forgot , after no
[06:58] <ubuntu-mate> and on the first tty “Could not open moddep file '/lib/modules/3.XX-generic/modules.dep.bin'” is shown
[06:58] <ki7mt> ubuntu-mate, Normally, that means a messed up kernel install ..
[06:58] <ubuntu-mate> after systemd message
[06:59] <alkisg> Or a bad cd
[06:59] <ubuntu-mate> well ya
[06:59] <ki7mt> Yeah, if using LiveCD
[06:59] <ubuntu-mate> I will need to make a new usb installer -.-
[06:59] <alkisg> Try the md5sums too
[06:59] <ubuntu-mate> but too lazy to get up from my bed -.-
[06:59] <ubuntu-mate> so I'm using live cd :d
[06:59] <ubuntu-mate> and having fun here
[07:00] <kingbeowolf> anyone know of a good program that uses ad-block sources but dns level?
[07:00] <ubuntu-mate> hmm not really :?
[07:00] <kingbeowolf> that would be so cool to move it out of the browser
[07:00] <ki7mt> I don't even understand the question, let alonne an applications :-)
[07:00] <ubuntu-mate> if you use pfsence as router you might find something
[07:01] <Guest36387> good buy see you later !!
[07:01] <Guest36387> i hate that
[07:01] <kingbeowolf> it would need to be something that had a plugin for a browser
[07:01] <alkisg> kingbeowolf: I don't think it's possible as adblock also rewrites the html sources when needed
[07:01] <kingbeowolf> so you could disable it or white list sites
[07:01] <ubuntu-mate> well
[07:02] <ubuntu-mate> there is a problem with that
[07:02] <ubuntu-mate> some websites will load slower
[07:02] <ubuntu-mate> because they will try to connect to ad server and won't able to
[07:02] <ubuntu-mate> so by editing html I think would be better choise
[07:03] <ubuntu-mate> I forgot which add blocker I use :/
[07:03] <kingbeowolf> i know a new one just came out
[07:04] <kingbeowolf> supposedly really good
[07:04] <ubuntu-mate> I use one of the recent once
[07:04] <ubuntu-mate> pages loads faster
[07:06] <kingbeowolf> yeah i noticed in chrome it loads slower with adblock then firefox with adblock
[07:06] <ubuntu-mate> I use uBlock
[07:06] <kingbeowolf> or maybe i just notice it more
[07:06] <ubuntu-mate> (piko block)
[07:06] <kingbeowolf> i heard about that
[07:06] <ubuntu-mate> it does not slow down page loading
[07:08] <kingbeowolf> pretty good graphs in the app store
[07:09] <kingbeowolf> you using uBlock Origin in Chrome?
[07:09] <ubuntu-mate> I think so
[07:09] <ubuntu-mate> yea chrome
[07:09] <ubuntu-mate> well chromium
[07:12] <kingbeowolf> does hangouts app work with chromium
[07:12] <ubuntu-mate> It works for me
[07:12] <ubuntu-mate> and google music app
[07:13] <Andy_MCO> pop-corn time is really good in ubuntu
[07:13] <Andy_MCO> I like it
[07:13] <ubuntu-mate> darn it firefox doesn't load youtube html5 by default -.-
[07:13] <kingbeowolf> ya i hate that too
[07:13] <kingbeowolf> i use firefox for awhile
[07:14] <kingbeowolf> switched because of that
[07:14] <kingbeowolf> has this nasty bug when full screening youtube vids
[07:14] <ubuntu-mate> I hate when services like netflix are not available in Europe -.-
[07:14] <kingbeowolf> always locked up flash
[07:14] <ubuntu-mate> yea
[07:14] <kingbeowolf> dont have that problem as i am from the us
[07:15] <kingbeowolf> but that would annoy me
[07:15] <Andy_MCO> use a vpn service from us
[07:15] <Andy_MCO> like surfbouncer
[07:15] <kingbeowolf> ya
[07:15] <ubuntu-mate> well that's an overhead
[07:15] <ubuntu-mate> to use service to use service
[07:15] <ubuntu-mate> and also
[07:15] <ubuntu-mate> us prices are so huge :x
[07:15] <ubuntu-mate> I pay for my 100mbps ~ 3$
[07:16] <ubuntu-mate> a month
[07:16] <kingbeowolf> haha
[07:16] <ubuntu-mate> no bandwith cap
[07:16] <kingbeowolf> ya
[07:16] <kingbeowolf> i dont have a cap here but i pay 100 a month
[07:16] <ubuntu-mate> son of a b...
[07:16] <kingbeowolf> we are fighting in the courts alot about it right now
[07:17] <ubuntu-mate> yea I hear that from news
[07:17] <kingbeowolf> and we are actually winning
[07:17] <kingbeowolf> its crazy
[07:17] <ubuntu-mate> our cell phone providers ISP's are so much better
[07:17] <kingbeowolf> first time for everything
[07:17] <ubuntu-mate> because of EU laws
[07:17] <kingbeowolf> ya not as many monopolies
[07:17] <ubuntu-mate> my brain hurts when I see how much you pay for services
[07:18] <kingbeowolf> things are getting better
[07:18] <kingbeowolf> people are getting their heads out of their asses
[07:18] <ubuntu-mate> I hope for the best :/
[07:18] <kingbeowolf> google is helping
[07:18] <kingbeowolf> Google Fiber
[07:18] <kingbeowolf> SpaceX
[07:18] <ubuntu-mate> and now Google is starting to be a cellphone provider :D
[07:19] <kingbeowolf> ya i heard that too
[07:19] <kingbeowolf> good things are coming
[07:19] <Zerkalerka> Should move this chat to #ubuntu-offtopic
[07:19] <ubuntu-mate> sometimes google is doing some good things
[07:19] <ubuntu-mate> ah sry
[07:19] <Zerkalerka> I enjoy it, just clogs up the help channel :)
[07:19] <ubuntu-mate> true :/
[07:20] <kingbeowolf> oh logical thinking dang it
[07:26] <kingbeowolf> why doesn't unity automatically switch back to internal speakers when HDMI is unplugged?
[07:33] <Guest51416> bjr a tous
[07:35] <Guest51416> ya til un chat en francais
[07:35] <Guest51416> svp
[07:36] <Chuck_Norris> !fr | Guest51416
[07:37] <MichaelTiebesl> hey hello, is there somebody who has installed diaspora on ubuntu (15.04) as pod?
[07:37] <Guest51416> merci
[07:38] <muh2000> hi all
[07:38] <muh2000> i jsut upgraded
[07:38] <muh2000> now nvidia driver does NOT load :(
[07:38] <muh2000> any ideas?
[07:40] <Zerkalerka> purge, reinstall, try different nvidia version.
[07:41] <muh2000> Zerkalerka: tried, no avail
[07:44] <Zerkalerka> muh2000: did you restore the noveau driver first before you reinstalled?
[07:44] <muh2000> Zerkalerka: nope but i blacklisted it now -> checking.
[07:45] <muh2000> blacklisted but still loading the nouveau
[08:08] <ubuntuser13> Cache has no package named ubuntu-emulator-runtime. this means that your installed packaged have unment dependencies. how to solve this?
[08:09] <hiexpo> install the depends
[08:12] <ubuntuser13> hiexpo: how ? . In synaptic manager, when i clicked on fix broken packages and then press apply. nothing happened. Apt Manager working properly.but a red icon in menu bar.
[08:14] <hiexpo> ubuntuser13, you may have to compile some packages what are youtrying to install?
[08:15] <ubuntuser13> hiexpo : i think that problem occured due to a change in ubuntu-emulator repository. i downloaded one package from an another ubuntu-sdk repository.
[08:16] <hiexpo> oops
[08:16] <ubuntuser13> hiexpo: anyways Thanks For help.
[08:17] <hiexpo> np
[08:41] <nrdb> is there an easy way to monitor the commands going though pipe ... e.g. a command the takes stdin and outputs it to stderr and stdout
[08:47] <Duratech> Hi
[08:47] <Duratech> I'm not a big fan of unity, what is the best ubuntu alternative?
[08:47] <niek> nrdb: hmm, take stdin and output it to both stderr and stdout? I guess you could pipe to "tee /dev/stderr" which would send output both to stderr and stdout.
[08:49] <Duratech> Also question number 2, my mainboard has a windows bios by default but they offer a linux bios... should i flash the bios to the linux version if Im going to install linux?
[08:49] <jun> hello
[08:50] <nrdb> niek, thanks
[08:51] <catalin> salut
[08:51] <Duratech> Can anyone help please?
[08:51] <fanno> hello, i dont know if this is ok to as here since it may not be "ubuntu" but more a generic question.
[08:51] <nrdb> Duratech, I don't think you need to change the bios ... my laptop dual boots just fine.
[08:52] <fanno> i installed ubuntu in dual boot. and i am now used to ubuntu and have not used windows for over 3 month and i wanna remvoe it.. i founed OS-uninstall.. and have installed it.
[08:52] <fanno> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/OS-Uninstaller now is there anything special i need to do ? the windows partition has the boot sector.
[08:52] <nrdb> Duratech, there are a lot of desktops you can use Gnome, KDE, most are easy to install, so you can select which to use when you log in.
[08:53] <Duratech> ok
[08:53] <fcarbogn> Hi, Question of the day: In my Ubuntu 14.10 is not possible to launch an application on the second screen (the Oculus) by setting DISPLAY=:0.1. It seems there is only one DISPLAY the 0:0. How it is possible then to launch an application on the second screen??
[08:53] <fcarbogn> Do I need to work at the level of /etc/X11/xorg.conf that it seems not used by Ubuntu?
[08:54] <Stifler> fanno, make sure you have a backup. (given) then just use option 1.
[08:55] <Duratech> Also question number 2, my mainboard has a windows bios by default but they offer a linux bios... should i flash the bios to the linux version if Im going to install linux?
[08:55] <fanno> yes i have backup of home directory that should be all data i need
[08:57] <nrdb> Duratech, as I said before ... changing the bios shouldn't be needed.
[08:58] <nrdb> fcarbogn, did you try that using "export DISPLAY... "
[08:58] <Stifler> Duratech, I doubt its much. But I suspect that it is more an option to upgrade BIOS from linux rather than for linux.
[08:59] <fcarbogn> nrdb: yes indeed
[09:01] <Duratech> ta
[09:02] <nrdb> fcarbogn, have you maybe you could get a terminal (i.e. bash) to start on the other monitor and tell that terminal to start your program.
[09:02] <fcarbogn> nrdb: simply DISPLAY=":0.1" xterm, lead to: Can't open display :0.1
[09:05] <fcarbogn> nrdb: the problem is that the Oculus screen is basically unusable when there are not Oculus application running on it so you get creazy trying to understand were your terminal and mouse pointer are gone
[09:05] <nrdb> fcarbogn, I can't help any more, I don't have two displays.
[09:06] <gagalicious> i would like to encode my file with my own encoding to protect it... i've zip password it but would like to "mess" the file up a bit more to hide the fact that it's a zip file. how can i do that without gpg or installing more software?
[09:06] <nrdb> gagalicious, you could use openssl to encrypt it
[09:07] <gagalicious> can u give me a clue to the command line?
[09:07] <gagalicious> non-interactive password input please
[09:08] <gagalicious> better still, if i can just mix up the sequence of the file in chunks when encoded and then do the same back by the file size will be great
[09:09] <nrdb> gagalicious, google is your friend ... if you what to just hide the content base64 encode/decode could be ok
[09:11] <nrdb> gagalicious, let me know if you need more help
[09:21] <Guido1> hello, what is the command to move a folder on the desctop to usr/lib?
[09:23] <nrdb> Guido1, "mv <folder> /usr/lib"
[09:26] <Guido1> nrdb: I'm trying "sudo mv /Bureaublad/Tijdelijk/seamonkey /usr/libs/seamonkey"
[09:26] <Guido1> nrdb: but it says that Bureaublad/Tijdelijk/seamonkey does not exist
[09:27] <nrdb> Guido1, two things the second argument should be "/usr/lib" it is not the libs directory and you don't need to give a name unless you are changing it.
[09:28] <Guido1> it's the folder "seamonkey"which i want to move
[09:29] <nrdb> Guido1, yes that is the first argument ... so it knows what you are moving ... it will assume you don't want to change the name if it isn't there on the second argument
[09:30] <nrdb> Guido1, mv is safe it will ether do it or complain ... you won't loose the data.
[09:30] <Guido1> nrdb: okee, the moving worked, but because of a type errror now i have a map "libs" how do i remove the map?
[09:31] <nrdb> Guido1, so now you have a /usr/libs ? is it a file or directory?
[09:31] <Guido1> nrdb: directory
[09:32] <gagalicious> nrdb : it's not helpful at all
[09:32] <nrdb> Guido1, rmdir /usr/libs will get rid of that .... assuming it is empty.
[09:34] <Guido1> it is empty
[09:34] <Guido1> but still acces denied
[09:35] <nrdb> Guido1, so "sudo rm /usr/libs"
[09:35] <Guido1> yea, just saw that. worked, thanks.
[09:35] <nrdb> Guido1, did you know you can use "sudo -i" to switch to the root user?
[09:35] <Guido1> nee, thanks
[09:36] <esph> I'm trying to do upgrade to the enablement stack as detailed here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kernel/LTSEnablementStack but when I issue the suggested command, apt wants to remove a bunch of stuff I installed like skype, wine, and pipelight. What gives?
[09:36] <nrdb> Guido1, of course use "exit" or close the terminal when finished.
[09:37] <Guido1> jea, that i do most of the time
[09:38] <hiexpo> q
[09:38] <bekks> esph: Can you pastebin the entire output please?
[09:39] <Guido1> just remember this commands and check manualy for updates ...
[09:40] <z0ran> im usin i3 window manager for ubuntu 14.04...does anyone have any idea how to get network-manager icon in i3status bar....thanks
[09:41] <Guido1> nrdb: jea, that i do most of the time. just need to remember this commands and check manualy for updates ...
[09:41] <Zerkalerka> z0ran: put nm-applet in your i3 start config
[09:43] <z0ran> Zerkalerka: i did, but it doesnt work, i also put in config file "--no-startup-id gnome-setting-daemon" still doesnt ork
[09:43] <esph> bekks: http://sprunge.us/MFSj
[09:44] <bekks> esph: And which command are you issueing?
[09:45] <esph> bekks: from the "DESKTOP" heading under Trusty here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kernel/LTSEnablementStack The command is `sudo apt-get install --install-recommends linux-generic-lts-utopic xserver-xorg-lts-utopic libgl1-mesa-glx-lts-utopic libegl1-mesa-drivers-lts-utopic`
[09:46] <bekks> esph: Why are you using all thta i386 stuff on your 64bit installation?
[09:47] <brainwash> bekks: he mentioned "skype, wine, and pipelight"
[09:47] <bekks> brainwash: ah, ok.
[09:47] <esph> bekks: the stuff that has nothing to do with the kernel but apt wants to remove anyway.
[09:48] <esph> bekks: I didn't install all the i386 stuff; it was pulled in during install or as dependencies for other stuff, idk
[09:48] <bekks> esph: that stuff depends on the kernel in the end, and is removed because the new kernel doesnt support that.
[09:48] <esph> LOL, kernel doesn't support Skype?
[09:49] <esph> or wine?
[09:49] <melancholycalkin> Did anyone's upgrade from 14.10 to 15.04 get interrupted as well?
[09:49] <melancholycalkin> :(
[09:50] <brainwash> esph: I think you need to install the i386 variants, like xserver-xorg-lts-utopic:i386 and so on
[09:51] <melancholycalkin> In that case, what's the best course of action for dealing with failed upgrades, where the partial upgrade option keeps failing?
[09:51] <bekks> melancholycalkin: Restoring the backup?
[09:52] <mac33> hi to ereryone
[09:52] <mac33> everyone
[09:52] <melancholycalkin> Figured as much, is the nuclear option better than trying to fix the specific problems with it, bekks?
[09:53] <bekks> melancholycalkin: Just restore your backup.
[09:53] <melancholycalkin> I just realised I don't have a backup :/
[09:53] <orazio> hi
[09:53] <melancholycalkin> clean install then?
[09:54] <bekks> melancholycalkin: Yeah, since you had no data woth being kept, you just reinstall cleanly.
[09:55] <melancholycalkin> Alright, thank you. I've got the document I want saved on the cloud anyway.
[09:55] <esph> brainwash: it would be idiotic to have to run my whole system with i386 stuff just to have skype. Skype (which doesn't come with a 64bit version for linux) runs just fine on my 3.19 kernel 64bit arch system.
[09:55] <melancholycalkin> Off to hold a pillow over my computer's face.
[09:55] <brainwash> esph: but wine/pipelight requires the 32bit mesa stack
[09:56] <esph> brainwash: ah, right.
[09:56] <esph> forgot about that.
[09:56] <azizLIGHT> when i run firefox in terminal, it launches firefox nightly, not firefox stable. how do i change this
[09:56] <brainwash> you don't need the 32bit kernel
[09:57] <esph> brainwash: is there a way to have both mesa stacks in Ubuntu?
[09:57] <esph> That's what I have on my arch box.
[10:00] <brainwash> esph: I guess so, try to install the i386 one by attaching ":i386" to the package string
[10:02] <brainwash> azizLIGHT: how did you install firefox nightly? are you sure that it did not replace the stable one?
[10:02] <z0ran> Zerkalerka: just to let you know...i just installed "wicd" on problem solved, i have now network-manager icon on i3wm....
[10:03] <azizLIGHT> brainwash: i used https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FirefoxNewVersion/MozillaBuilds#Manual_Installation
[10:04] <azizLIGHT> brainwash: i have firefox stable installed side by side with nightly
[10:04] <azizLIGHT> i dont think it replaced it, ive run them side by side at least once
[10:05] <aladiah> I have this file Zoiper_3.3_Linux_Free_64Bit.run on my downloads, how to install it ?
[10:06] <aladiah> The system say i need to be a super user ???
[10:06] <azizLIGHT> do you have sudo privs
[10:06] <azizLIGHT> privileges
[10:06] <azizLIGHT> doesnt zoiper have a deb
[10:07] <brainwash> azizLIGHT: does ~/bin/firefox start firefox nightly?
[10:07] <azizLIGHT> aladiah: theres a ppa
[10:08] <bekks> aladiah: http://blog.brettalton.com/2010/04/30/gnome-integrated-iax-compatible-voip-client-for-ubuntu/
[10:08] <azizLIGHT> bekks: yeah thats the one, it has a ppa you dony have to run a nasty .run
[10:08] <OerHeks> aladiah, they answer all questions https://www.zoiper.com/en/documentation/linux-installation-and-configuration
[10:08] <azizLIGHT> brainwash: yeah it launches nightly
[10:09] <azizLIGHT> wow nice screenshot guide
[10:09] <brainwash> azizLIGHT: so, you did not add ~/bin to PATH, so the terminal will keep launching the stable one if you only run "firefox"
[10:09] <azizLIGHT> brainwash: the ooppsite is happening. nightly is launching when i do firefox
[10:10] <bnmvda> hey guys i need help anyone can help me?
[10:10] <bnmvda> its a little problem
[10:11] <brainwash> azizLIGHT: ok, so it's the other way round, ~/bin is specified in your PATH env variable and has a higher priority
[10:11] <azizLIGHT> ohhh i see what i did now
[10:11] <azizLIGHT> ok
[10:11] <Komanda> phpmyadmin says mysqli|mysql doesnt work
[10:11] <azizLIGHT> i dont need this ~/bin/firefox
[10:11] <Komanda> isn't isntalled *
[10:11] <bnmvda> can any1 help me with OPENGL error on steam? plss
[10:11] <Komanda> then i did apt-get install php5-mysql
[10:11] <Komanda> and its still the same
[10:11] <brainwash> azizLIGHT: you could just rename it to firefox-nightly
[10:12] <bnmvda> can any1 help me with OPENGL error on steam? plss
[10:12] <azizLIGHT> brainwash: i can just launch it directly with /home/aziz/firefox/firefox too
[10:12] <azizLIGHT> brainwash: anyway thanks lol... stpid error
[10:12] <brainwash> azizLIGHT: :)
[10:12] <bnmvda> can any1 help me with OPENGL error on steam? plss
[10:13] <brainwash> bnmvda: please join #ubuntu-steam
[10:13] <OerHeks> !ask | bnmvda
[10:13] <bnmvda> hhh
[10:13] <bnmvda> ty
[10:13] <viart_p> /server 127.0.0.1:6667
[10:13] <viart_p> ok
[10:13] <viart_p> list
[10:13] <azizLIGHT> lol
[10:14] <muh2000> it seems there is a bigger issue due the upgrade to 15.04. newer kernel -> all the ethX are gone. nvidia gone. etc..
[10:14] <esph> brainwash: ah, nice. I copied both mesa packages and put them again at the end after appending :i386 to them and it stopped saying it would remove Skype et al.
[10:14] <muh2000> lspci lists them though
[10:14] <esph> brainwash: thanks a bunch!
[10:15] <muh2000> anyone with ideas?!
[10:15] <brainwash> esph: you're welcome :)
[10:15] <aladiah> HoerHecks: thank you very much
[10:15] <aladiah> OerHecks: Thank you very much
[10:19] <bnmvda> some1 pls help
[10:19] <bnmvda> Could not find required OpenGL entry point 'glGetError'! Either your video card is unsupported, or your OpenGL driver needs to be updated
[10:21] <kavin> Hi Mate. Can I update my ubuntu 14.04 lts to 15.04?
[10:22] <Riddell> kavin: not directly no
[10:22] <OerHeks> kavin, sure, if you change from 'lts-to-lts' to ' regular ' , 14.04 > 14.10 > 15.04
[10:23] <OerHeks> reinstall will be faster
[10:23] <kavin> thanks guys. I will download the distro and make a bootable usb
[10:23] <bnmvda> Could not find required OpenGL entry point 'glGetError'! Either your video card is unsupported, or your OpenGL driver needs to be updated
[10:23] <bnmvda> help?
[10:23] <trijntje> bnmvda: did you install drivers for your video card?
[10:23] <OerHeks> bnmvda, is this on a ati videocard like this answer? http://askubuntu.com/questions/475756/could-not-find-required-opengl-entry-point-glgeterror
[10:24] <bnmvda> idk rly
[10:24] <bnmvda> im new in this
[10:24] <Kartagis> k1l_: are you there?
[10:24] <bnmvda> i tryed on google
[10:24] <bnmvda> but i dont understand shit xD
[10:25] <Kartagis> !language | bnmvda
[10:25] <Kartagis> heh
[10:25] <Kartagis> bnmvda: please keep the language clean
[10:25] <bnmvda> kk
[10:25] <bnmvda> sry
[10:25] <bnmvda> i didnt mean harm
[10:25] <bnmvda> :D
[10:25] <susana> hey guys, im new here
[10:25] <trijntje> bnmvda: go to system settings -> Softwaren & updates -> Additional drivers
[10:25] <bnmvda> i have
[10:26] <trijntje> hi susana
[10:26] <trijntje> bnmvda: ok, and what did it show?
[10:26] <muh2000> what the fuck is wrong with that stupid upgrade
[10:26] <muh2000> eth0 gone
[10:26] <muh2000> nvidia gone
[10:26] <bnmvda> i have 5 nvidia options
[10:26] <trijntje> language muh2000
[10:26] <bnmvda> drivers or what
[10:27] <Mion> muh2000: ip l
[10:27] <trijntje> bnmvda: yes, those are drivers, pick one and see if it works after a reboot. First the open source once, then fglrx and fglrx-updates last
[10:27] <bnmvda> what? hhhh
[10:27] <bekks> trijntje: He has nvidia, not fglrx :)
[10:28] <muh2000> Mion: i love those comments i am telling that eth0 is gone and you ask me to display the unfindable ethX....
[10:28] <bnmvda> ok
[10:28] <bnmvda> i will be back
[10:28] <bnmvda> soon
[10:28] <Mion> muh2000: might not be named what you expect it to be named
[10:28] <Mion> hence ip l to see if there really ins't any network interfaces
[10:28] <pferg> hello
[10:28] <muh2000> Mion: true but it cannot be expected when there is none except lo
[10:28] <pferg> is anyone out there
[10:29] <pferg> wow
[10:29] <pferg> it was difficult to get here!
[10:29] <Mion> muh2000: you didn't say you only had lo, you only said "eth0 gone"
[10:29] <pferg> ok guys, i'm in the wrong room
[10:29] <pferg> how can i get to the #chess room?
[10:29] <trijntje> pferg: /j #chess
[10:30] <pferg> thx trijntje
[10:30] <pferg> lemme try
[10:30] <pferg> apparently that is invite only
[10:30] <pferg> which is not cool
[10:30] <Mion> load the correct module for your card, dmesg
[10:30] <muh2000> Mion: true, eth0 gone somewhat implies that no connectivity is available... if there was connectivity - i probably wouldnt notice that is gone...
[10:30] <pferg> WTF
[10:30] <Mion> muh2000: seen lots of people get confused by iterfaces getting renamed
[10:30] <muh2000> and the question would be different.
[10:31] <Mion> thinking that their interface is actually gone
[10:31] <pferg> how do i get an invite into the chess room?
[10:31] <pferg> not that i don't love you guys
[10:31] <muh2000> it would be like " §whatever is gone but still working - whats the cause?"
[10:31] <Mion> #chess is not an active channel
[10:31] <pferg> serious?
[10:32] <bnmvda> hey
[10:32] <Mion> you probably want ##chess
[10:32] <bnmvda> im back
[10:32] <pferg> double pound?
[10:32] <Mion> yes
[10:32] <pferg> lemme try
[10:32] <pferg> so this : "/join ##chess"
[10:32] <Mion> /q alis list *chess*
[10:33] <pferg> i'm so confused
[10:33] <pferg> why is this so hard
[10:33] <Mion> it is not
[10:33] <pferg> there has to be a better way
[10:33] <Mion> better way than what?
[10:33] <pferg> dudes and dudettes
[10:34] <pferg> i used to write c++ code
[10:34] <pferg> back in the day of napster
[10:34] <pferg> and now i am having trouble navigating IRC
[10:34] <bnmvda> any help?
[10:34] <pferg> this is not good
[10:34] <bnmvda> i have opengl prob
[10:34] <bnmvda> on steam
[10:34] <bekks> bnmvda: Any help on what exactly?
[10:35] <trijntje> pferg: this channel is for ubuntu support, you probably should join #freenode for irc support
[10:35] <pferg> can someone tell me how to change rooms to whatever active chess discussion is going on? on the global internet?
[10:35] <pferg> "on the line"?
[10:36] <pferg> not that i don't like you guys.
[10:36] <esph> pferg: /join ##chess didn't work for you?
[10:36] <pferg> no
[10:36] <esph> worked fine for me just now
[10:36] <pferg> try it
[10:36] <pferg> .
[10:36] <pferg> hmm.. something must be wrong with my setup?
[10:36] <bekks> bnmvda: Dont pm me, keep it in the channel.
[10:37] <bnmvda> ok
[10:37] <bnmvda> sry
[10:37] <__dan_> hi, for some reason writing files over samba to my homedir creates them as user root ...?
[10:37] <esph> Maybe you have to have a regestered nick to talk in that channel? Anybody know how to check that?
[10:37] <TandyUK> ##chess is fine, fix your client
[10:37] <bnmvda> and can u help me?
[10:37] <TandyUK> and no restrictions on nick etc
[10:37] <TandyUK> its just +nt
[10:37] <pferg> it says its invite only
[10:37] <TandyUK> i just joined it
[10:37] <TandyUK> "/join ##chess"
[10:37] <esph> I just joined as well
[10:37] <TandyUK> not rocket science
[10:38] <pferg> i feel so left out :(
[10:38] <bnmvda> i have opengl problem on steam can someone help pls?
[10:38] <pferg> the one guy who wants in, can't get in
[10:38] <pferg> very sad
[10:38] <bekks> bnmvda: Stop polling, start asking your actual question please.
[10:38] <pferg> can one of you guys invite me?
[10:38] <bnmvda> i have opengl error when i start the game dota2
[10:39] <esph> pferg: Are you sure you're joining ##chess on freenode and not some other network by accident?
[10:39] <trijntje> bnmvda: did you install a video driver like I said?
[10:39] <pferg> esph thank you
[10:39] <bnmvda> yes
[10:39] <pferg> yes
[10:39] <bnmvda> and still doesnt work
pferg: Are you sure you're joining ##chess on freenode and not some other network by accident?
[10:40] <pferg> not sure what to do
[10:40] <basso> mornings
[10:40] <trijntje> bnmvda: which driver did you install, and which are available?
[10:40] <TandyUK> pferg: its really complex mate, type "/join ##chess" and press enter
[10:40] <pferg> dude
[10:40] <pferg> it's not working for me
[10:40] <TandyUK> then go get a working irc client, cause clearly you are the only one with as problem
[10:40] <basso> use master race client, quassel for the win
[10:41] <bnmvda> open source
[10:41] <trijntje> pferg: go to webchat.freenode.com, see if that works
[10:41] <pferg> ok
[10:41] <bnmvda> than i tryed proprietary tested
[10:41] <pferg> or maybe i'm just a newb
[10:41] <pferg> and am learning
[10:41] <bnmvda> and both doesnt work
[10:41] <pferg> my bad and thank you, to all of you
[10:42] <TandyUK> if youre still learning, i dont comprehend how you cant type 2 commands
[10:42] <pferg> i welcome a game of chess, word
[10:42] <TandyUK> what were you doing wrong?
[10:42] <pferg> umm, i don't want to piss you off
[10:42] * TandyUK is intrigued how "/join ##chess" can gho wrong lol
[10:42] <pferg> but i didn't realize that int eh upper right side of my window
[10:42] <pferg> there was a little selection that said ##chess
[10:43] <pferg> as soon as i clicked it, i was there
[10:43] <pferg> but seriously, this is way far from user friendly
[10:43] <bnmvda> trijntje are you there?
[10:43] <pferg> will you guys be okay without me?
[10:43] <TandyUK> pferg: sounds to me like xchat is the thing that is not user friendly
[10:43] <TandyUK> pferg: im sure we will cope :P
[10:44] <trijntje> bnmvda: yes, did you reboot after installing each driver?
[10:44] <bnmvda> yes
[10:44] <cfhowlett> xchat is abandonware. use hexchat.
[10:44] <trijntje> bnmvda: what video card do you have? (type lspci | grep -i vga in a terminal)
[10:45] <bnmvda> nvidia gforce8600
[10:45] <pferg> yes, i suppose it's my interface
[10:45] <pferg> i assumed you all were having the same interface, which is not true, i guess
[10:46] <pferg> strange actually, to consider that i'm having a conversation, and the people i'm dealing with are having the same conversation but in a different experience
[10:46] <trijntje> bnmvda: my guess is that video card is too old to run games
[10:46] <pferg> regardless
[10:46] <esph> pferg: your client just opens new tabs when you join new rooms. Most clients do something like that, though I'll agree I don't like the look of xchat much.
[10:46] <bnmvda> it works on windows but not here :(
[10:46] <Mion> xchat is dead, use hexchat
[10:47] <pferg> i am now connected with the 1 (one) person in ##chess
[10:47] <pferg> way less than i expected
[10:47] <pferg> i would have expected at least 100 russians
[10:47] <TandyUK> erm you must be in ##chess on a different network
[10:47] <TandyUK> theres 87 ppl in the one here
[10:47] <pferg> how do i get to the true chess chat room?
[10:47] <esph> pferg: there are 80 people in ##chess. I'd assume some number of those are asleep atm though.
[10:47] <TandyUK> erm i can see you there too
[10:47] <esph> pferg: you're in there right now; I can see you talking
[10:48] <pferg> maybe just one #?
[10:48] <TandyUK> i just slapped you
[10:48] <pferg> fack
[10:48] <pferg> invite only!!!!
[10:48] <esph> pferg: ##chess is the real chess
[10:49] <esph> pferg: there are ~1700 people in here (#ubuntu) right now, but maybe 5 people talking
[10:49] <esph> pferg: that's the way things work most of the time.
[10:49] <cfhowlett> more on-topic discussion = more participants. case in point ...
[10:50] <esph> cfhowlett: lol, if only that were true
[10:50] <TandyUK> irc is a case of ask question, come back 4 hours later to see answer
[10:50] <TandyUK> (if ur lucky)
[10:50] <TandyUK> must be great for chess
[10:50] <TandyUK> matches could last months
[10:51] <Tin_man> :)
[10:51] <esph> TandyUK: in smaller channels, sure. I'd say wait about 20 mins tops if you're in here. Any longer and your question is buried beyond memory.
[10:51] <basso> i suck at chess
[10:51] <basso> :(
[10:51] <TandyUK> yeah obviously how busy the channel is affects it,
[10:51] <TandyUK> but really if you havent had an answer by then, youre unlikely to get one ime
[10:51] <Tin_man> i never had much problem getting a question answered, if anyone knew the answere anyway..
[10:52] <TandyUK> precisely...
[10:52] <Tin_man> *answer
[10:52] <esph> Yeah, mostly it's quick answer or wrong answers/no answer
[10:52] <TandyUK> if noone knows, expect a wall of silence
[10:52] <newuser789> sudo apt-get update is showing errors ?
[10:52] <Tin_man> i don't even ask, until i've exhausted my google and web searches
[10:53] <esph> but I've waited more than a day for a response in #alsa, for instance. Smart people are busy, so gotta do stuff on their schedule :P
[10:53] <Tin_man> if you thing ubuntu and asla is bad, try setting up a puppy.. horrible..
[10:54] <ioria> newuser789, is a question ?
[10:54] <newuser789> sudo apt-get update is showing errors ? what to do ? ioria yes
[10:54] <esph> Tin_man: oh really? Puppy never gave me much trouble.
[10:54] <ioria> newuser789, which error ? 404, can't fetch ? what exactly ?
[10:54] <Tin_man> with usb speakers it was a challenge..
[10:55] <Tin_man> but i got it eventually
[10:55] <Tin_man> was me more than puppy, but it defaulted to onboard sound..
[10:56] <Tin_man> just had to turn off onboard, and it worked fine..
[11:02] <Bolivar1> hi all
[11:03] <Bolivar1> i love justin bieber
[11:03] <Bolivar1> lol
[11:03] <cfhowlett> !topic | Bolivar1,
[11:04] <Bolivar1> why? because f*ck you, thats why
[11:05] <cfhowlett> !ops | bolivar
[11:05] <cfhowlett> hmm. nevermind. seems to have bailed.
[11:22] <AdvoWork> Hi there, im trying to update/upgrade my old ubuntu laptop, 13.04 but i dont know if theres a problem or so old, but i tried doing sudo apt-get update and it cannot reach a lot of packages, then sudo apt-get dist-upgrade which seemed to work, but then sudo do-release-upgrade but it fails something about fetching packages and network problem(network is fine though).
[11:23] <SaucisseCocktail> so olf I think
[11:23] <SaucisseCocktail> old
[11:23] <cfhowlett> AdvoWork, download ISO, make usb and clean install?
[11:23] <SaucisseCocktail> Life time for distros are nine months
[11:23] <SaucisseCocktail> except for LTS
[11:23] <ioria> AdvoWork, backup all your data, and install 14.04
[11:24] <AdvoWork> cfhowlett, ahh so do it from USB? i didnt realise i could do that, as ive got no cds/dvds to hand
[11:24] <Guest40720> hello there
[11:24] <Guest40720> somewhere here that can help me?
[11:24] <cfhowlett> AdvoWork, if your system supports USB boot, yes! reboot adn check your bios
[11:24] <cfhowlett> !ask | Guest40720
[11:25] <Guest40720> some bad habbits dies hard
[11:25] <AdvoWork> how can i tell if 32 or 64 bit?
[11:25] <SaucisseCocktail> it's ask in more download options
[11:25] <ioria> AdvoWork, lscpu
[11:25] <OerHeks> AdvoWork, open terminal: lscpu # should tell you
[11:25] <Guest40720> got a notebook (acer aspire E1-572) and my bluetooth didnt work the way it should
[11:26] <Guest40720> i installed ubuntu mate 14.04
[11:26] <Guest40720> my problems sounds something like this https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/1237296
[11:27] <AdvoWork> hmm, says CPU op-mode(s): 32-bit, 64-bit though, and i686
[11:27] <ioria> AdvoWork, you are 64
[11:27] <Guest40720> i got some infos together from my maschine: http://pastebin.com/kYBPG7jR
[11:27] <Guest40720> does this help to figure the problem out?
[11:28] <ioria> AdvoWork, just to be sure cat /proc/cpuinfo
[11:28] <Guest40720> seems that i maybe have a real reason to upgrade to kernel 3.16
[11:30] <OerHeks> Guest40720, known issue with ath9k, see this page with the hwcrypt solution http://askubuntu.com/questions/224619/how-to-resolve-wireless-disconnect-problem-in-atheros-ath9k
[11:31] <Guest40720> this solution works for bluetooth?
[11:32] <Guest40720> my wifi works fine,but my bluetooth not :(
[11:35] <OerHeks> its a bluetooth and wireless combo
[11:35] <Guest40720> i know
[11:35] <Guest40720> my wifi works,my bluetooth dont
[11:38] <cyberman> goodafternoon
[11:39] <lotuspsychje> cyberman: hello mate
[11:40] <OerHeks> Guest40720, lots of bug, like this https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/1352821 https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/1429552
[11:42] <muh2000> how to force ubuntu to scan devs for devices?
[11:43] <faust> muh2000: what is your problem?
[11:43] <cow-boy> dumb question... how can I hide my IP?
[11:43] <faust> cow-boy: tor?
[11:43] <SchrodingersScat> cow-boy: you already have a cloak.
[11:44] <cow-boy> yes I got a cloak but I whois myself and it didnt seem to do anything
[11:44] <cow-boy> plus I heard the cloak does not help much
[11:44] <lotuspsychje> cow-boy: you can also fool around with macchanger
[11:45] <gr33n7007h> cow-boy: your cloaked
[11:45] <cow-boy> but will spoofing a mac ... hide my IP?
[11:45] <lotuspsychje> cow-boy: no, it will change it
[11:45] <EriC^^> you're getting trolled guys
[11:45] <muh2000> faust: upgrade -> 15.04 current kernel -> no ethernet dev, no nvidia getting loaded -> lspci lists them both.
[11:46] <Lb2> hi, I have a problem
[11:46] <Lb2> my network manager applet has died
[11:46] <Lb2> how can i restart it?
[11:46] <cow-boy> I thoguht macchanger only changed the mac... and left the IP the same
[11:46] <EriC^^> type nm-applet
[11:46] <faust> cow-boy: you can see your ip, but we can't
[11:47] <Lb2> thanks
[11:47] <cow-boy> Yeah I figured that was the case.. but I was told the cloak does not help much
[11:47] <Guest40720> im away for lunch - be back soon :)
[11:47] <faust> cow-boy: what do you mean by "does not help much"?
[11:47] <gr33n7007h> cow-boy: use a vpn then
[11:47] <faust> what is your goal?
[11:48] <cow-boy> I just wanted to hide my IP but... I was told people could still see it if they wanted to
[11:49] <EriC^^> freenode staff maybe?
[11:50] <cow-boy> Freenode.. website
[11:50] <faust> cow-boy: maybe you need tor
[11:50] <EriC^^> cow-boy: go to www.xshellz.com make a shell, then use tor with ssh to connect there and use irssi
[11:51] <cow-boy> Do you all do that?
[11:51] <faust> no
[11:51] <EriC^^> nope
[11:51] <cow-boy> or do you just not care lol
[11:51] <faust> most people here don't care
[11:51] <OerHeks> silly hiding ip
[11:52] <AdvoWork> no way to install an iso of ubuntu from within ubuntu?
[11:52] <EriC^^> cow-boy: why do you want to hide your ip anyways
[11:52] <EriC^^> AdvoWork: not within ubuntu, you can boot the iso with grub and install
[11:52] <faust> AdvoWork: can something like debootstrap help?
[11:53] <cow-boy> I feel nakid I guess
[11:53] <AdvoWork> hmm, the thing is i was going to use usb, ive got a 2gb drive, the latest ubuntu is 996mb but says its not enough?
[11:53] <EriC^^> i feel you troll
[11:53] <cow-boy> like I could get attacked lol
[11:54] <faust> cow-boy: so, how do you manage to log in facebook or reading email? It is much more dangerous thank IRC even with tor
[11:54] <cow-boy> I have only used linux for about 7 years... and have not used IRC until tonight since the webtv hit the market back in the early 90s
[11:54] <lotuspsychje> !ot | cow-boy
[11:54] <jasonwhite> Hi guys I have a problem and I hope some guru here could help me :D. I want to tell my application where it should load the dynamic library instead of using ld.so or /etc/ld.so.cache. I have set the LD_LIBRARY_PATH environment but when I do a $strace, I still see that it read /etc/ld.so.cache file to look for dynamic libraries. Thank you.
[11:55] <CereS2009> Hi, i'm on 14.04.2 and i'd like to upgrade to 15.04, the software updater offers 14.10. Is that the way to go?
[11:55] <EriC^^> cow-boy: is your ip even accessible from the outside?
[11:55] <lotuspsychje> CereS2009: its reccomended to install fresh
[11:56] <cow-boy> Ok I thought linux.. IRC.. Proxys.. MACs.. IPs... was all related, after all this is not windows ;)
[11:56] <EriC^^> cow-boy: try to open a port with nc -l -p 2xxx ( put whatever number ), then try telnet <your outside ip> <port>
[11:56] <CereS2009> lotutspsychje: ok, and how do i best transfer my settings and programs? /home/ and /etc/ ?
[11:57] <ioria> jasonwhite, -L
[11:57] <lotuspsychje> CereS2009: CereS2009 you can backup your favorite packages with aptoncd or apt-get download packagename
[11:57] <cow-boy> you can copy with cp
[11:57] <lotuspsychje> CereS2009: /home you can backup to any external hd
[11:57] <cow-boy> or make a backup
[11:58] <jasonwhite> ioria: Can I specify it at run time ? If I am not wrong, you are mentioning at build time.
[11:59] <cow-boy> ERIC I have my Router locked down pretty tight
[11:59] <cow-boy> I think im just not going to worry no more
[11:59] <CereS2009> lotutspsychje: aptoncd looks nice, thx!
[11:59] <lotuspsychje> CereS2009: np :p
[12:00] <ioria> jasonwhite, right... did you run ldconfig ?
[12:00] <ioria> jasonwhite, check /etc/ld.so.conf
[12:01] <jasonwhite> ioria : I didnt run. Actually, what I want is I don't want the application to rely on the system's config, which is ld.so thing.
[12:01] <jasonwhite> ioria: And I did not write the code so -L is out of my hand
[12:02] <jasonwhite> ioria: Of course I have the code but reading the whole source code is too much... Or I should only care about the Makefile, you think ?
[12:05] <ioria> jasonwhite, try to comment '#' the string in /etc/ld.so.conf ... but you'll get error in make
[12:08] <jasonwhite> ioria : As far as I know, LD_LIBRARY_PATH is the first priority when it comes to load dynamic libraries. I don't have any trouble using this method in Debian, Centos... but with Ubuntu it is kind of strange. Do you know any hack to use LD_LIBRARY_PATH in Ubuntu ? I am on 14.04.
[12:10] <ioria> jasonwhite, you can change .bashrc in home with a different LD_LIBRARY_PATH
[12:11] <jasonwhite> ioria: Sure I did set different LD_LIBRARY_PATH by creating a wrapper script to set it, then launch my applciation.
[12:11] <jasonwhite> ioria: SOrry for not mentioning it earlier.
[12:12] <ioria> jasonwhite, i'm not entire sure what you wanna do
[12:12] <Seveas> jasonwhite: LD_LIBRARY_PATH works just fine in Ubuntu. Can you pastebin your wrapper script?
[12:13] <ioria> Seveas, i think he wanna jump the ld cache for runtime
[12:15] <jasonwhite> ioria, Seveas : http://pastebin.com/NuYn9EG2
[12:16] <action09> hi all
[12:16] <Seveas> jasonwhite: ah. There's no way of avoiding lookups in the builtin /lib etc. paths if lookups in /path/to/my/wanted/libs fails. That's true for other distros as well
[12:16] <Ava> connect #ubuntu-touch
[12:16] <ioria> jasonwhite, in any case shoul be separated i think :LD_LIBRARY_PATH=/usr/local/pip/lib export LD_LIBRARY_PATH
[12:17] <Seveas> ioria: neh, it works just fine
[12:17] <ioria> ok
[12:17] <action09> for an inexpericenced/non it user i need to access his ubuntu workstation from mine.. i'm searching for a 'one click' only remote desktop support , any idea please.. it's impossible to ghet him install anything..eventually clicking on a file ok..but that's all, any help appreciated :D one liner welcome :)
[12:17] <Seveas> jasonwhite: replace /path/to/my/app/myapp with ldd /path/to/my/app/myapp to see which libraries get loaded from where
[12:18] <lotuspsychje> action09: does your friend have GUI?
[12:18] <jasonwhite> Seveas : Lookups in /path/to/my/wanted/libs are not failed. I saw them loaded in $strace output. OKay I will try $ldd
[12:18] <action09> lotuspsychje yep it's a ubuntu 14.04 workstation for currrent usage browsing...etc
[12:19] <lotuspsychje> action09: you can use teamviewer for single use..then uninstall it after your work is done
[12:19] <jasonwhite> ioria: 1 line I think is fine. Done many times before.
[12:19] <action09> lotuspsychje teamviewer can have one click thing so ? i'll check thx
[12:20] <lotuspsychje> action09: it would take several clicks
[12:20] <action09> lotuspsychje ok thx i'll check ;)
[12:21] <superprower> Hello, i connected my phone to my pc via USB and ubuntu 15.04 said that she recognized some kind of mobile network, what can i do with it? Is it calling network or just my mobile internet? USB-modem is not activated in my phone. In prev. versions i didn't had this feature.
[12:24] <ioria> Seveas, change the code with a dlopen instruction ?
[12:24] <jasonwhite> Seveas, ioria : $ldd /path/to/my/app show that all the libraries are loaded from my /path/to/my/wanted/libs
[12:25] <BluesKaj> Hiyas all
[12:25] <Guest-en> hi
[12:32] <scatterp> hi when i try to boot ubuntu the display turns off seems a graphics issue when i boot in failsafe and select failsafe graphics it boots up is there a way to make it boot up like that automaticly ?
[12:32] <lotuspsychje> !nomodeset | scatterp
[12:33] <scatterp> thx
[12:33] <lotuspsychje> scatterp: what kind of grafix chipset do you have?
[12:33] <ioria> jasonwhite, http://stackoverflow.com/questions/2726993/g-how-to-specify-preference-of-library-path
[12:34] <newuser789> sudo apt-get update is showing errors ? what to do ? ioria http://paste.ubuntu.com/10897325/
[12:35] <muh2000> i am not getting a ethernet device with the 3.19.0-15 kernel-
[12:35] <muh2000> the old one works though.
[12:36] <muh2000> what could be the cause?
[12:36] <Guest40720> im back
[12:36] <cfhowlett> muh2000, simple. 13.10 is end of life
[12:37] <cfhowlett> muh2000, for quite some time now, actually
[12:37] <ioria> newuser789, you are using saucy... 13.10 and you want to upgrade to 14.04 ?
[12:37] <cfhowlett> !eolupgrade | muh2000,
[12:38] <scatterp> lotuspsychje not sure to be honest
[12:38] <OerHeks> newuser789, so you didn't touch your ubuntu box for a year?
[12:38] <scatterp> lotuspsychje: i will try nomodeset and come back if it does not solve it
[12:38] <lotuspsychje> scatterp: ok good luck
[12:39] <muh2000> cfhowlett: i am running ubuntu 15.04....
[12:40] <newuser789> ioria: OerHeks true, I don't mess with a working maching, but wanna upgrade to LTS or 15.04 now, so doing update, etc so as to make a complete updated backup of a working machine
[12:40] <cfhowlett> muh2000, then you got issues. your software sources read 13.10
[12:40] <cfhowlett> muh2000, doh! ignore me. wrong nick. osrry
[12:40] <Krenair|phone> I screwed up some updates and gav
[12:40] <Guest40720> can i upgrade my kernel on 14.04 or isnt it recommend?
[12:41] <Krenair|phone> Have ended up with a broken ubuntu-desktop
[12:41] <muh2000> cfhowlett: no shit sherlock i fugured it out myself that my OS got issues, maybe because some stuff is not working. my software reads 15.04 and the only kernel that gives me NIC and video is the really old one.
[12:41] <Dumle29> Hmm, any reason why plugging my USB keyboarad into the back USB ports on my desktop, causes every USB device to not work, while it works fine from the front panel connector?
[12:41] <Krenair|phone> I get error processing package ubuntu-desktop from dpkg
[12:41] <Krenair|phone> dependency problems
[12:41] <Krenair|phone> No idea how to fix
[12:42] <muh2000> lsb_release -a also states 15.04
[12:42] <ioria> newuser789, change /etc/update-manager/release-upgrades to lts instead of normal
[12:42] <lotuspsychje> muh2000: whats your network card chipset?
[12:42] <muh2000> lotuspsychje: the kind that used to work flawless.
[12:42] <cow-boy> I wanted to upgrade to 15.04 64 bit but the graphics card must be way to old on that box.... it ran great on 14.04
[12:43] <muh2000> sky something if you must know.
[12:43] <muh2000> it is obious that this ist NOT a hardware issue, since the old kernel works.
[12:43] <lotuspsychje> muh2000: did you install 15.04 with wifi enabled and updates on during setup?
[12:44] <cow-boy> Is there any suggestions for older nvidia cards on 15.04?
[12:44] <muh2000> lotuspsychje: it is a laptop, so yes. but i had a wire in the NIC.
[12:44] <muh2000> eth...
[12:45] <lotuspsychje> muh2000: pastbin sudo lshw -C network plz
[12:45] <muh2000> lotuspsychje: cannot pastebin but i will look for obvious stufff..
[12:46] <lotuspsychje> muh2000: card name and driver= loaded would be usefull
[12:46] <muh2000> lotuspsychje: it is listing both (wlan and nic)
[12:47] <lotuspsychje> muh2000: only the one that doesnt work we need
[12:47] <muh2000> seems like "unused" or something
[12:47] <muh2000> both dont work
[12:47] <cow-boy> nvidia 6150 LE = Ubuntu 15.04???
[12:47] <muh2000> nvidia does not work
[12:47] <lotuspsychje> muh2000: ok what about cardname?
[12:47] <muh2000> bluetooth does not work
[12:47] <muh2000> but it works with the old kernel.
[12:47] <OerHeks> muh2000, why don't you give details?....
[12:48] <lotuspsychje> muh2000: if you want stable, you should choose 14.04 perhaps
[12:48] <muh2000> OerHeks: it is obvious that it is not a hw isssue
[12:48] <muh2000> besides
[12:48] <muh2000> description: network controlller.... "duh".....
[12:48] <lotuspsychje> muh2000: ?
[12:48] <muh2000> product 88e8040
[12:48] <muh2000> lotuspsychje: yes?
[12:49] <lotuspsychje> muh2000: never heard of the brand 'duh'
[12:49] <muh2000> lotuspsychje: "d'uh" in context of description name
[12:50] <newuser789> ioria: changed /etc/update-manager/release-upgrades to lts but same errors and not updating
[12:50] <ioria> newuser789, sudo apt-get install update-manager-core
[12:50] <muh2000> lotuspsychje: why 14.04 when i wanted to upgrade.... 15.04 is stable, just not lts....
[12:51] <lotuspsychje> muh2000: is it a marvel yukon?
[12:51] <muh2000> lotuspsychje: yes
[12:51] <muh2000> sky something
[12:51] <newuser789> ioria: already the newest version, nothing installed, updated, upgraded
[12:51] <cow-boy> I have a older box I'm trying to get Ubuntu 15.04 64 bit... rolling but It seems none of the suggested graphic drivers work... I believe that 14.04 was using nvidia-173... is this to old of a card for 15.04?
[12:51] <muh2000> if i remember it correctly
[12:51] <NicholasC> Hey guys. I think I'm overlooking. I've got MySql 5.7 running on Ubuntu 15.04, but for some reason port 3306 remains closed. Netstat does show MySQL listening. UFW is disabled. A portscan shows me that port 22 is open and I can SSH to the machine. Where should I look?
[12:52] <NicholasC> overlooking something*
[12:52] <muh2000> but it is not a hw issue. so plz dont bother getting into vendor troubleshooting. several devices arent recognized that work perfectly with the old kernel.
[12:52] <cow-boy> ok
[12:53] <muh2000> including not limited to nvidia card, bluetooth, nic & wlan....
[12:53] <cow-boy> thanks
[12:53] <lotuspsychje> muh2000: again, if you want everything to work perhaps you should stick to LTS, otherwise file a bug
[12:53] <ioria> newuser789, in this case i edit /etc/apt/sources.list and replace the old release with 'trusty' then apt-get update - upgrade and dist-upgrade ... but absoluty not advisable.... then would be better a fresh install
[12:54] <cow-boy> I always fresh install
[12:54] <muh2000> lotuspsychje: non lts does not imply that some stuff does not work.
[12:54] <muh2000> when the system cannot use several devices, it is far beyond lts/non-lts issue related.
[12:54] <ugurkoltuk> Hi, is there any software for ubuntu that makes my laptop behave as a USB keyboard to another device?
[12:55] <muh2000> especially when the old kernel is a as you stated 13.04 or something
[12:55] <OerHeks> muh2000, one way to be sure, try a fresh install.
[12:55] <no_gravity> Hi Everybody! What is the difference between the output of "cat /proc/net/ip_conntrack" and "netstat -n --inet"? i am seeing way more entries in ip_conntrack.
[12:55] <muh2000> OerHeks: i am not a windows user
[12:58] <muh2000> i really love the comments... they are akin to "hurr durr install archlinux it is so much better"
[12:59] <lotuspsychje> muh2000: there's no point to complain about that here
[13:00] <muh2000> actually there is.
[13:01] <cfhowlett> muh2000, complaining in the volunteer support channel? seems rather pointless
[13:02] <OerHeks> unless he tries a fresh install, or bootup a live iso, he hasn't got a point.
[13:02] <cow-boy> has anyone had any luck with older nvidia cards on 15.04
[13:02] <cow-boy> 6150 LE
[13:02] <lotuspsychje> cow-boy: try another flavor perhaps, xubuntu/lubuntu
[13:04] <muh2000> cfhowlett: suggesting reinstalling or using old version is like a slap in the face when i stated an issue to a current version.... that is why i am upset.
[13:04] <lotuspsychje> muh2000: we pointed you several solutions, by different volunteers
[13:04] <bazhang> muh2000, lets stick to the issue please, could you restate it, as I was not around
[13:06] <jophish> Hi, Is it possible to switch beteen windows in the same application with Super-Tab instead of Alt-Grave
[13:06] <muh2000> bazhang: several devices are not useable. not found etc. nic wlan video bluetooth with current 15.04 15.04 with really old kernel works though.
[13:07] <ioria> Alt-Grave ?
[13:07] <bazhang> jophish, which application uses several windows
[13:07] <jophish> Terminal is an example
[13:08] <jophish> Ctrl-Shift-N opens a new window
[13:08] <jophish> Chromium would be another example
[13:08] <bazhang> jophish, using gnome-shell thats very easy, with an alt-tab coverflow effect
[13:08] <EriC^^> jophish: why? that wouldn't be as practical
[13:08] <lotuspsychje> jophish: you could use terminator for server terminal windows togheter
[13:08] <jophish> EriC^^: Alt tab to switch between applications, Super tab to switch within an application.
[13:09] <lotuspsychje> several
[13:09] <jophish> lotuspsychje: that's an option, but I'd rather mimic the behaviour I've become used to in other operating systems
[13:09] <jophish> Both Windows and OSX (with Witch) do this
[13:09] <EriC^^> jophish: what about the times you want to press alt+tab to switch to the application and then alt+grave to switch between it's windows?
[13:09] <jophish> EriC^^: ? I Alt-Tab, then Super-Tab
[13:10] <EriC^^> jophish: you'd have to jump from pressing alt+tab to super + tab, you'd practically need to be a street magician..
[13:10] <jophish> EriC^^: They're right next to one another on my keyboard.
[13:11] <EriC^^> but your thumb holds the tab button, the other way you'd thumb would stay at tab and you'd move the other finger
[13:11] <jophish> EriC^^: My index finger holds the tab button
[13:11] <cow-boy> Muh2000 Sounds like the hardware was obsoleted in the new kernel.... Or is just not there yet. As the LTS is known for having a larger driver pool.... but I would try a fresh download and fresh install as sometimes you can get a sour download.
[13:12] <EriC^^> left index? jophish
[13:12] <jophish> EriC^^: yes
[13:12] <EriC^^> so left index + tab, then thumb on super + grave?
[13:13] <jophish> EriC^^: sorry! I meant my little finger
[13:14] <EriC^^> jophish: little finger on what?
[13:14] <jophish> EriC^^: my left hand
[13:14] <EriC^^> on alt?
[13:14] <jophish> This is a very standard keybaord
[13:14] <EriC^^> what presses alt?
[13:14] <jophish> no, little finger on tab, and thumb on alt
[13:14] <EriC^^> ok, so how will you switch to super?
[13:14] <jophish> then little finger on tab and thumb on the windows key
[13:14] <EriC^^> you'd have to jump with your thumb to super as i was saying
[13:14] <jophish> EriC^^: that isn't a problem for me
[13:15] <freddie76> ciao a tutti
[13:15] <freddie76> !list
[13:15] <muh2000> cow-boy: it is a laptop samsung n510 nvidia ion stuff and intel atom..... not that old...
[13:16] <MichaelHabib1> hi, any ideas why would casper-rw partition work while a loopfile at the root of parition and/or same lvl as .iso image wont work ? Grub2
[13:19] <oiu> I'm a new Linux user running Ubuntu. I'd like to try out some other distributions in a VM for fun. What's the best method of running VMs on Ubuntu?
[13:19] <EriC^^> oiu: install virtualbox
[13:20] <MichaelHabib1> oiu: virtual box ? or vmware player
[13:21] <oiu> EriC^^: MichaelHabib1: Thanks a lot. :)
[13:22] <MichaelHabib1> EriC^^: hi, you have any exp with casper-rw ?
[13:22] <EriC^^> MichaelHabib1: not really, no
[13:23] <MichaelHabib1> np, just having a funny problem, *ubuntu detects the casper-rw partition but not casper-rw loopfiles :( :(
[13:28] <Guest30604> cc francais ici
[13:29] <chotaz> !fr | Guest30604
[13:32] <fate_> hello world
[13:35] <chotaz> I currently have no USB flash drives or blank DVDs to boot from, however I have a secondary HDD that is currently not in use. Can I use this second HDD to format my main one? If so, can I simply just dd ubuntu's image into the HDD and then boot from it?
[13:36] <Krenair|phone> I managed to get ubuntu-desktop configured in the end
[13:37] <Krenair|phone> (Bluez could not be configured due to some dbus weirdness)
[13:37] <Krenair|phone> But it still doesn't show the launcher or the menu car web
[13:37] <Krenair|phone> The menu bar*
[13:37] <Krenair|phone> When I log in...
[13:39] <digitsm> Hello I have xubuntu 14.04.1 x64 installed on my laptop, but I can't hibernate from menu. Only "sudo pm-hibernate" works
[13:40] <digitsm> I also tried this guide, but didn't work http://ubuntuhandbook.org/index.php/2014/04/enable-hibernate-ubuntu-14-04/
[13:40] <darthanubis> http://pastebin.com/5v02NVQ0
[13:51] <wiki> help
[13:51] <phix__> THere is an issue with the cyrus-imapd package, even if you specify a PID file and restar the service it doesn't kill the process at all on stop
[13:51] <DJones> !ask | wiki
[13:51] <Guest95588> Official Ubuntu Support Channel | IRC Guidelines: http://ubottu.com/y/gl | IRC info: http://ubottu.com/y/irc | Pastes to http://paste.ubuntu.com/ | Download: http://ubottu.com/y/dl | Currently supported: 10.04 LTS (server), 12.04 LTS, 14.04 LTS, 14.10, 15.04
[13:55] <darthanubis> did mime-support break for anyone else?
[13:55] <darthanubis> My apt is unusable now as a result
[13:55] <darthanubis> thanks
[13:58] <sherwaldo> Hi all, anyone installed Ubuntu on the Dell 13 7000 2in1
[13:59] <sherwaldo> Looking to see what experinces people had and if they managed to get certian features working like the keyboard disabling when the screen is full flip
[13:59] <sherwaldo> And if the bluetooth/wifi/mic/cam and touchscreen all function as expected
[14:01] <darthanubis> run a livecd and see for yourself
[14:01] <darthanubis> only way to be sure
[14:01] <alazyworkaholic> I have / on btrfs. Decided to run btrfs balance before trying to make a snapshot before upgrade, just in case things went wrong. the balance seemed to freeze, wouldn't pause/cancel, so I had to restart. Now / mounts read-only. Any way to fix this?
[14:01] <sherwaldo> I have, everything seems fine but the keyboard but thats a s/w requirment not hardware
[14:02] <sherwaldo> just really wanted to know what long term use was like, seems like there should no issues but the keyboard. I'm sure someone has developed a application to allow the keyboard to full flip disable but i can't locate one
[14:10] <[n0mad]> darthanubis: there was someone in here last night with an issue with mime-support because of an unrecognized character
[14:11] <[n0mad]> but i didn't see any responses and google didn't seem to help either
[14:11] <darthanubis> did it get resolved?
[14:11] <[n0mad]> didn't seem so.
[14:15] <studybox> hello I just upgraded 14.10 to 15.04 and when asked for an IPv6 BIND I didn't have the address with me so i left it blank
[14:15] <studybox> now IPv6 doesn't work
[14:15] <darthanubis> http://paste.ubuntu.com/10898316/
[14:16] <studybox> can somebody show me the steps to fix that please
[14:16] <arcsky> hello, i dont have any data in syslog or messages file, how can i fix that?
[14:19] <[n0mad]> darthanubis: about the only think i could thin is if your terminal isn't set to the proper encoding
[14:19] <darthanubis> hmmm
[14:19] <[n0mad]> is it set to utf-8?
[14:20] <darthanubis> checking
[14:20] <[n0mad]> it's under the profile settings
[14:21] <darthanubis> yes
[14:21] <hugo> hola
[14:21] <darthanubis> it is
[14:21] <Guest36941> quien habla español
[14:21] <darthanubis> !es
[14:22] <CUCHO> hola
[14:22] <expose> hello
[14:22] <expose> i need help
[14:23] <SchrodingersScat> !ask | expose
[14:23] <expose> i had a problem with sudo
[14:23] <expose> in terminal
[14:23] <expose> password invalit
[14:24] <expose> invaliw why i don t know why
[14:24] <SchrodingersScat> expose: should be the same as what you used to install with, your user password
[14:24] <expose> i try it but it is not help im totally noob in linux distro
[14:25] <SchrodingersScat> expose: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LostPassword
[14:26] <expose> thanks bro
[14:35] <ReGiStRaS> hi guys. Why 15.05 gets only 9 months of update?
[14:36] <ReGiStRaS> 15.04*
[14:37] <[n0mad]> ReGiStRaS: because it's not a LTS
[14:37] <brainwash> !lts
[14:37] <bazhang> ReGiStRaS, thats the standard for non lts
[14:37] <ReGiStRaS> hmm....so I have to wait for 15.04LTS?
[14:38] <ioria> no
[14:38] <brainwash> the next one will be 16.04 LTS, the current one is 14.04
[14:39] <ubguy> Is there a way to disable the GUI window open wobble effect in Ubuntu 15.04?
[14:40] <frecel> is there a way to increase the size of the top bar in unity 7?
[14:41] <[n0mad]> frece: in display settings there's a scale for menu and title bars
[14:41] <[n0mad]> it will change it, but it will also change all of your title bars
[14:41] <[n0mad]> so expect everything to be bigger
[14:42] <frecel> [n0mad]: sweet, thanks
[14:42] <frecel> [n0mad]: I'm running 15.04 on a tablet big controls are nice
[14:44] <codephobic> Hi
[14:45] <codephobic> I've upgraded to 15.04 and now my VirtualBox won't work any more. It refuses to compile. Any ideas why this might be happening?
[14:47] <ioria> codephobic, virtualbox is tied to kernel, i think
[14:48] <codephobic> ioria, this is the first time I've had this issue with vbox and upgrades.
[14:50] <ioria> codephobic, if you have not made apt-get autoremove you should have the old kernel... ls /boot ?
[14:51] <_war10ck_> codephobic: Are you trying to build vBox from source or installing using *.deb file?
[14:51] <codephobic> ioria, I think I got rid of legacy kernels as part of the upgrade.
[14:52] <ioria> codephobic, just to be sure run ls /boot
[14:52] <codephobic> _war10ck_, I'm just running the "setup" programme that normally recompiles VirtualBox, post ubuntu upgrade.
[14:52] <codephobic> ioria, I have some abi-xxx files, some vmlinuz-xxx files too
[14:53] <codephobic> not sure what specifically I should be looking out for.
[14:53] <ioria> codephobic, ok, you should have vmlinuz-3.19.0-15-generic and look for others vmlinuz
[14:54] <gtrf> hello, i have this problem http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2275463&p=13272869#post13272869
[14:54] <codephobic> I have vmlinuz-3.19.13... 3.16... and 3.19...
[14:55] <SchrodingersScat> !nomodset | gtrf
[14:55] <bazhang> mode
[14:55] <SchrodingersScat> !nomodeset | gtrf
[14:55] <SchrodingersScat> bazhang: hah, yeah, thanks
[14:56] <ioria> codephobic, select from grub - advanced option - another kernel and see if it works
[14:57] <codephobic> ioria, do I do this at boot? I'm not familiar with changing kernels.
[14:57] <ioria> codephobic, yes if boot does not show press shift
[14:57] <ioria> *if grub *
[14:57] <codephobic> ah
[14:57] <codephobic> k
[14:58] <codephobic> and I should be able to return to my current kernel easily, there are no permanent changes from such a procedure?
[14:59] <ioria> codephobic, no
[14:59] <codephobic> cool, I'll give it a go in a bit
[14:59] <codephobic> I'm also asking the vbox channel if there is an update to virtualbox, that addresses this kernel issue.
[14:59] <codephobic> longterm, that's got to be the solution.
[15:00] <ioria> codephobic, possible solutions http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2055886&page=2
[15:01] <codephobic> ioria, thanks, I'll give that a go now
[15:01] <surodimerto> .
[15:03] <Jack64> hey guys I'm having trouble installing scapy. tried apt-get install python-scapy, pip install scapy, downloaded from website and tried installing from zip. still fails when I try from scapy.all import * . any ideas?
[15:05] <hiexpo> Jack64, whats the errors
[15:05] <Jack64> ImportError: No module named all
[15:06] <Seveas> Jack64: delete the attempts you've done so far and apt-get install python-scapy
[15:06] <Jack64> just did that. apt-get remove python-scapy, pip uninstall scapy. then apt-get install python-scapy and same error
[15:06] <codephobic> ioria, tried it out, sadly it's hanging on a subprocess error ... when I run the 'sudo apt-get install virtualbox-dkms' command
[15:07] <Jack64> apt-get is giving me an error but it's not related to scapy
[15:07] <Jack64> I'll try rebooting
[15:07] <Jack64> brb
[15:07] <codephobic> don't know whether to cancel out of the process, terminal's just frozen there.
[15:08] <ioria> codephobic, why are you installing virtualbox again ?
[15:09] <codephobic> ioria, the initial solution on that page doesn't work, but the follow on conversation suggested trying that.
[15:09] <xhp> hello
[15:09] <ioria> codephobic, i suggested you to boot with a different kernel
[15:10] <harris> hey
[15:10] <codephobic> ioria, I was referring to the link you suggested too: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2055886&page=2
[15:10] <codephobic> I figured I'd give that a go, first.
[15:11] <ioria> codephobic, can you paste on paste.ubuntu.com the output of ps -A
[15:11] <ioria> ?
[15:11] <codephobic> ioria, ok, one moment.
[15:11] <ReGiStRaS> whats the command to update apt?
[15:12] <Seveas> ReGiStRaS: that depends on what you mean with 'update apt' :)
[15:13] <Jack64> dpkg: error processing package isc-dhcp-server (--configure):
[15:13] <Seveas> ReGiStRaS: apt-get update -> download package lists so you can see what's available, apt-get dist-upgrade -> upgrade all packages
[15:13] <Jack64> apt-get fails because of this
[15:13] <codephobic> ioria, http://paste.ubuntu.com/10898843/
[15:13] <Seveas> Jack64: that has nothing to do with scapy.
[15:14] <Seveas> Jack64: do you need a DHCP server on that computer?
[15:14] <Jack64> no, just apt-get removed it
[15:14] <Jack64> no errors
[15:14] <Jack64> but scapy doesn't work
[15:14] <Seveas> Jack64: try this: python -c 'import scapy; print scapy'
[15:14] <Seveas> what does that output?
[15:14] <Jack64> File "<string>", line 1, in <module>
[15:14] <Jack64> File "/home/pena/dev/scapy.py", line 2, in <module>
[15:15] <Jack64> ImportError: No module named all
[15:15] <Seveas> there you go
[15:15] <Seveas> get rid of that scapy.py
[15:15] <Seveas> or call it something else. It's confusing python
[15:15] <Jack64> damn
[15:15] <Jack64> thanks
[15:15] <Jack64> scapy.pyc
[15:15] <Jack64> was there
[15:15] <harris> how do i have 2 seperate workspaces one for each monitor
[15:15] <Jack64> Seveas: thanks for that
[15:15] <Seveas> np :)
[15:17] <ioria> codephobic, try to reboot selecting the kernel was up when you installed virtualbox, if you used 14.04 should be 13
[15:18] <codephobic> ioria, ok, I'll try.
[15:18] <codephobic> rhythmbox is frozen too, I think I'll reboot now, see if things improve.
[15:19] <codephobic> thanks for the help ioria.
[15:19] <ioria> codephobic, np
[15:26] <c0mrad3> I have this error with my pendirve :( ctrlv.in/564688 how to fix it
[15:27] <fossterer> Did Ubuntu 15.04 newly introduce 'Open in Terminal'?
[15:28] <xhp> hello
[15:31] <rockstar_> how to convert date and time into one number?
[15:31] <Happy_Larry> epoch
[15:33] <rockstar_> can I use it in Google sheet?
[15:35] <Happy_Larry> think so its just a number
[15:35] <rockstar_> Happy_Larry: how can I do it?
[15:35] <rockstar_> Happy_Larry: I have Date Time (UTC-04:00) 2015-04-26 4:46:16, I want to aggregate them into one number
[15:35] <Happy_Larry> date +%s will get you the seconds from the epoch date 1970
[15:36] <Happy_Larry> on bash
[15:37] <mauritslamers> Hi all, I have an issue with my Macbook 2,1 freezing on 15.04 boot, I had it before, but it was more random then. I thought at first that it had to do with the graphics or with plymouth, but I adjusted the boot script, to remove quiet and splash, as well as the graphic mode, and the problem stays. I can boot the machine as long as I use the rescue mode, and from there continue the normal boot
[15:38] <Happy_Larry> dnesg should give you a clue, have you looked at that?
[15:39] <Happy_Larry> sorry dmesg
[15:39] <mauritslamers> when I remove the nomodeset from the recovery boot script, it also freezes
[15:40] <droid909> guys i need smtp emulation what software exist?
[15:41] <rbrt5> hello there, can I ask a jabber-related question if it were not too out of place?
[15:41] <rbrt5> when I tried to change my account password, it failed, and I can't connect to server anymore. when I want to delete the account, I get this error: http://paste.ubuntu.com/10899108/
[15:41] <mauritslamers> droid909: you mean a local package to simulate an smtp server?
[15:41] <mauritslamers> droid909: and which forwards to a real mail server?
[15:42] <sai> what is new version of ubuntu?
[15:42] <mauritslamers> droid909: in that case you’d need ssmtp
[15:42] <DJones> !15.04 | sai
[15:43] <sai> is 16.0 out??
[15:43] <joshh20> sai, 15.04 was just released less than a week ago
[15:43] <DJones> sai: Erm, please read what the bot told you,15.014 is the current release
[15:43] <sai> thanks
[15:43] <joshh20> Lmao annoying guy
[15:45] <ThatNewGuy> Hi guys, does any1 use tor browser?
[15:46] <Happy_Larry> tor yes a little
[15:46] <ThatNewGuy> did u install it via ubuntu software center?
[15:47] <Happy_Larry> TNG: good question, I can't remember
[15:47] <DJones> !tor | ThatNewGuy
[15:48] <ThatNewGuy> Cool. Thanks
[15:48] <ThatNewGuy> Anyway, I did everything in that guide, but can't start browser
[15:49] <ThatNewGuy> It could not bind to an address
[15:49] <xangua> the recomended way is to download the bundle the tor page offers
[15:54] <ThatNewGuy> Got it working now. Out of my window$ habit i kept clicking the bash file :)))
[15:54] <ThatNewGuy> opened it via terminal and np
[15:54] <c0mrad3> I have this error with my pendirve :( ctrlv.in/564688 how to fix it
[15:55] <darkad> Hi all, I've just added an external monitor but something really bad happened
[15:56] <Knight80> Hello everyone!
[15:56] <darkad> xrandr: Failed to get size of gamma for output default
[15:56] <darkad> Screen 0: minimum 640 x 480, current 640 x 480, maximum 640 x 480
[15:56] <darkad> default connected 640x480+0+0 0mm x 0mm
[15:56] <darkad> 640x480 0.0*
[15:56] <ioria> c0mrad3, dmesg | tail ?
[15:56] <darkad> I have to reboot and enter in rescue mode, otherwise I see a black screen
[15:57] <Miriam> no se como utilizar openoffice impress
[15:57] <Knight80> I can't play any midi files since I installed Ubuntu 15.04 yesterday
[15:57] <Knight80> I have installed timidity but still doesn't work
[15:57] <Miriam> i don't know how to use openoffice impress
[15:57] <Knight80> :(
[15:58] <Knight80> Miriam ¿Eres española?
[15:58] <darthanubis> Knight80: install the restriced packages?
[15:58] <darthanubis> !es | Miriam
[15:58] <Knight80> darthanubis Oh, I forgot about that, thank you
[15:58] <darthanubis> np
[15:59] <Miriam> gracias al fin
[15:59] <darthanubis> de nada
[15:59] <Miriam> se supone que aqui deveriamos encontar ayuda lol
[16:00] <Miriam> deberiamos*
[16:00] <darthanubis> lol no
[16:00] <Knight80> Miriam What do you mean you don't know how to use Impress?
[16:01] <mike_papa> Hello. I cannot ping lan client from vpn client. Tcpdump on lan client shows incomming echo requests, but no answer is sent. Ping from router to lan client works good. What am I missing?
[16:01] <mike_papa> vpn has different subnet, but forwarding seems to work fine on routers iptables.
[16:05] <c_korn> hi, running 15.04 in a chroot the windows have this old looking layout. http://i.imgur.com/U2uiic7.png is there a way to fix that?
[16:10] <backbox> /help
[16:16] <rking> Anyone running KDE 5 yet over here.
[16:17] <ThatNewGuy> that new shiny plasma thing?
[16:18] <rking> @thatnewguy Lol, yeah.
[16:18] <ThatNewGuy> I tried it on VM, really liked the look and feel of dolphin, but went back to xfce anyway :/
[16:20] <pavlos> kubuntu 15.04 with a usb stick, looks very nice.
[16:21] <TLF> hello. I started upgrading ubuntu to vivid with do-release-upgrade but it suddenly stopped, and now I can't continue it, how can i continue it?
[16:24] <EriC^^> TLF: what do you mean it stopped?
[16:24] <TLF> EriC^^: it disappeared from terminal
[16:25] <EriC^^> TLF: what do you mean?
[16:25] <EriC^^> type cat /etc/issue
[16:25] <TLF> EriC^^: this is, it went to the screen
[16:25] <TLF> to the bash screen*
[16:25] <TLF> # cat /etc/issue Ubuntu 15.04 \n \l
[16:25] <EriC^^> TLF: scroll up with pageup and check if it finished or gave an error or ..
[16:26] <TLF> [screen is terminating]
[16:26] <EriC^^> ok so it was running in a screen session?
[16:26] <TLF> and when i do that command again it says there is no new version available :(
[16:26] <TLF> no, it seems the command starts a screen session
[16:27] <EriC^^> TLF: type screen -l
[16:27] <TLF> as said in: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/VividVervet/ReleaseNotes
[16:27] <TLF> EriC^^: no output is given
[16:27] <EriC^^> TLF: type cat /etc/apt/sources.list and check if it's using vivid sources
[16:27] <TLF> EriC^^: yes, it is
[16:28] <EriC^^> ok type sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[16:28] <javieru> hello, I'm sorry for my bad english speaking. I would like to ask you what FS is better for my SSD with ubuntu 14.04. I heard that brtfs or xfs is better than ext4 on ssd
[16:28] <TLF> EriC^^: it's locked by /usr/bin/dpkg --force-overwrite --status-fd 72 --configure bash:amd64
[16:28] <TLF> EriC^^: and I can't access to it
[16:29] <EriC^^> TLF: it looks like it's configuring bash
[16:29] <EriC^^> wait for a few minutes and try again and see if dpkg has changed what it's doing or if it finished
[16:29] <TLF> EriC^^: yes, it seems screen failed at that point, but I can't access the running apt because it was waiting for user input :(
[16:30] <EriC^^> TLF: you can kill it if you want, but that would be kind of drastic
[16:30] <EriC^^> leaving you with unconfigured packages etc.
[16:31] <underzen> .
[16:31] <EriC^^> or uninstalled ones, it might break the system
[16:31] <TLF> EriC^^: yep, thats why I wanted another option
[16:31] <TLF> EriC^^: http://paste.ubuntu.com/10899720/
[16:31] <TLF> EriC^^: maybe can I reattach to that? but how?
[16:31] <EriC^^> TLF: sorry, i've no X right now
[16:31] <EriC^^> if you want /msg me the paste
[16:32] <TLF> EriC^^: thanks
[16:32] <ioria> he can purge them, and update upgrade dist-upgrade but the outcome is unpredictable
[16:32] <Kartagis> TLF: screen -r 9600
[16:32] <EriC^^> ioria: yeah, he could reinstall all packages, but i still worry about any post upgrade cleanup stuff
[16:33] <ioria> yep
[16:33] <TLF> Kartagis: http://paste.ubuntu.com/10899738/
[16:34] <EriC^^> TLF: try screen -r
[16:34] <Kartagis> yeah
[16:34] <EriC^^> oh, didn't see that
[16:34] <EriC^^> did it work?
[16:34] <TLF> same fail :(
[16:35] <TLF> why it's not letting me to reattach?
[16:35] <EriC^^> what did it say?
[16:35] <EriC^^> TLF: try sudo apt-get update again and see if the dpkg process changed
[16:36] <EriC^^> TLF: try screen -r alone without anything
[16:36] <EriC^^> or sudo screen -r maybe
[16:39] <edgardoanaya> mornin
[16:40] <EriC^^> TLF: any luck?
[16:40] <edgardoanaya> kubuntu 2015 not workin out 4 me!!!!!
[16:42] <maslen> Hey, I'm trying to compile imagemagick from launchpad on my Ubuntu 15.04 x86 system, and I'm getting errors on configure (which appear to not be an issue) and make. Can someone take a look ? http://codepad.org/HYKuCliY
[16:42] <maslen> And yes, I did sudo apt-get build-dep imagemagick first
[16:44] <TLF> EriC^^: yes, no more screens, but dpkg it's still in the background
[16:44] <trijntje> maslen: why not install it from the software center?
[16:45] <maslen> trijntje: Because I want stack traces so I can triage the errors I found by fuzzing
[16:46] <EriC^^> TLF: did you attach to it?
[16:46] <maslen> I'd rather not upload all 15 crashes, especially if 10+ are the same thing
[16:46] <maslen> also, if they were fixed in the meantime
[16:47] <c_korn> ok, solved my problem. had to install this in the chroot: sudo apt-get install gtk2-engines-murrine light-themes
[16:48] <maslen> trijntje: I had completely forgotten about the imagemagick-dbg
[16:48] <TLF> EriC^^: nope, it seems screen was closed :)
[16:48] <TLF> :(
[16:48] <EriC^^> type ps aux | grep dpkg
[16:49] <trijntje> maslen: ha, I hadn't though about that, but that should work ;)
[16:51] <OOzed> hello there, I am getting connection problems with my current jabber client. which one would you recommend?
[16:52] <darthanubis> OOzed: jitsi
[16:52] <darthanubis> pidgin
[16:53] <teward> OOzed: there's quite a few that exist to do what you need. Pidgin is the one I use, but I only use it for jabber/xmpp, nothing else.
[16:54] <OOzed> how about swift?
[16:54] <bekks> Try it, see if you like it.
[16:55] <OOzed> bekks, I mean, feature-wise, compared to others..
[16:55] <bekks> OOzed: Same answer :)
[16:55] <OOzed> bekks, all right :)
[17:00] <poee> what player plays hevc x265 files?
[17:00] <teward> poee: perhaps the latest VLC but you might need a PPA or build it from source to work, as well as the codecs
[17:01] <poee> teward: any idea how to make it work with smplayer?
[17:01] <OOzed> thank you all for your answers!
[17:02] <daftykins> good luck playing HEVC :)
[17:02] <daftykins> you'll need a high spec system
[17:03] <poee> daftykins: 8gb ram,2gb graphics card and an i7 processor
[17:04] <quidnunc> Cursor suddenly disappeared. Does anyone know how I can get it back from the console?
[17:04] <daftykins> poee: only the CPU really matters since it'll be doing full software decode on such hardware
[17:05] <poee> daftykins: is an i7 sufficient, then?
[17:05] <EriC^^> TLF: maybe there's a way to read the terminal's contents and send it commands
[17:05] <daftykins> depends on the source video
[17:06] <daftykins> there have also been many generations of i7 :)
[17:06] <EriC^^> TLF: you could try killing the other dpkg process that has diff in it, it seems it's checking if .bashrc is different and maybe waiting for input
[17:06] <EriC^^> TLF: but i guess it would just hang on the next input
[17:06] <poee> daftykins: true. 2nd gen.
[17:07] <TLF> EriC^^: very very good, it continues killing the one with diff
[17:07] <daftykins> poee: sandybridge? mmm, is it 4K?
[17:07] <daftykins> (the video)
[17:08] <studybox> hello I just upgraded 14.10 to 15.04 and when asked for an IPv6 BIND I didn't have the address with me so i left it blank
[17:08] <studybox> now IPv6 doesn't work
[17:08] <studybox> can somebody show me the steps to fix that please
[17:08] <Adran> ipv6 bind?
[17:08] <studybox> i think that's what it said
[17:09] <Adran> studybox: it is indeed what you said, however as indicated by a question, i'm asking what you mean by that. because to me, bind in all caps usually indicated isc bind dns servers.
[17:10] <studybox> ok
[17:10] <studybox> ?
[17:11] <TLF> thanks for everything
[17:11] <TLF> goodbye
[17:15] <studybox> anybody here know how to turn ipv6 again after upgrading to 15.04
[17:17] <ki7rw> this is probably OT but i'll start here by asking the question: is there a website that i can legally download HD quality movies?
[17:18] <DJones> ki7rw: amazon.co.uk
[17:19] <ki7rw> i don't want to stream - download only
[17:19] <DJones> ki7rw: Probably other websites, presumably netflix, google movies etc
[17:19] <bullicon> getting this error trying to install brtfs
[17:19] <bullicon> E: Unable to locate package brtfs-tools
[17:19] <EriC^^> !info brtfs-tools
[17:20] <Okitain> Hey people, does anyone know if Firefox is connected to Gst0.10 or Gst1.0?
[17:20] <mguy> bullicon: it's btrfs
[17:20] <bullicon> ugh
[17:20] <bullicon> thanks mguy
[17:21] <bullicon> mguy same Unable to locate package btrfs-tools
[17:22] <EriC^^> !find btrsfs
[17:22] <EriC^^> !find btrfs
[17:22] <mguy> bullicon: are your sources.lst whacked out
[17:22] <EriC^^> !info btrfs-tools
[17:22] <bullicon> mguy probably, its a fresh install
[17:23] <bullicon> ubunut on virtualbox
[17:23] <kostkon> Okitain, on recent versions i believe both, whichever is available, i may be wrong though
[17:23] <EriC^^> bullicon: did you run sudo apt-get update?
[17:24] <Okitain> kostkon: thanks.
[17:26] <daftykins> studybox: what about "dpkg -l | grep bind" then look at the packages and try a "sudo dpkg-reconfigure <package>" ? assuming you were prompted at CLI
[17:26] <daftykins> total guess mind you, so back it up with research online
[17:27] <studybox> daftykins yea i was thanks let me try
[17:28] <studybox> daftykinds the grep output doesn't show anything about ipv6
[17:28] <studybox> you know what prompt during CLI update that asks for an ipv6 address?
[17:29] <studybox> i left that blank when i updated to 15.04
[17:29] <studybox> what do i do to fix ipv6?
[17:29] <Adran> studybox: If you want to answer my question now - what broke, and how was it working before.
[17:29] <Adran> e.g. did you have your v6 configured using dhcpv6 / slaac or static in /etc/network/interfaces?
[17:29] <studybox> Adran IPv6 broke
[17:29] <studybox> and it was working before normally
[17:29] <studybox> not sure it was default
[17:30] <studybox> so, not sure. it was default.
[17:30] <studybox> i mean
[17:30] <Adran> alright, so if you didn't touch anything. its possible it was auto configuration.
[17:30] <bullicon> EriC^^ yeah thats it.
[17:30] <bullicon> cheers
[17:30] <daftykins> studybox: it wouldn't, but it would show some BIND packages
[17:30] <studybox> right
[17:31] <Adran> studybox: is this a desktop or a server?
[17:32] <studybox> server
[17:32] <studybox> i just have ssh access
[17:32] <rahulprodev> Hi, In terminal when I type ls, it lists all folder in color with color marker on it... How to rid out marker color?
[17:33] <studybox> i don't really change settings since i'm still learning
[17:33] <Adran> studybox: `ip a` do you have a fe80 or such?
[17:34] <studybox> lo and venet0
[17:34] <studybox> inet6 is there too with the ipv6 address
[17:35] <escargotdu25> hi everybody !
[17:35] <Adran> with an actual ipv6 address?
[17:35] <studybox> yes
[17:35] <Adran> so what happens when you try ping6 google.com or something?
[17:36] <marianne> morning guys... anyone have a URL where I can install hal (having flash issues) the one I used before - mjblenner -- isn't loading cleanly
[17:36] <[n0mad]> rahulprodev: tried this? http://askubuntu.com/questions/309496/changing-directory-color-in-cli
[17:36] <escargotdu25> i have ubuntu 14.04 lts and i can't find the older icon program files in the menu bar (as it existed in the precedent version 12.04). is it normal ?
[17:36] <pavlos> rahulprodev, ls is aliased as "ls --color=auto" so you can type ls --color=never
[17:37] <alazyworkaholic> I've got a problem with a btrfs drive that will only mount read-only after a botched btrfs balance. I tried btrfs check --repair /dev/sdb1. http://pastebin.com/DFZu5ZQj If anyone has an idea, much appreciated!
[17:37] <nyavek> I have hbogo working in firefox - how do I get it working in chrome? I just get a black screen there.
[17:38] <nyavek> for ubuntu 15.04
[17:38] <rahulprodev> [n0mad], thanks for the link. :)
[17:38] <studybox> Adran it works but
[17:39] <rahulprodev> pavlos, thanks it worked :)
[17:39] <studybox> no IPv6 functionality
[17:39] <Adran> but you just were successfully able to ping google?
[17:39] <pavlos> rahulprodev, type "alias", you will see the various aliases
[17:39] <studybox> yes
[17:39] <marianne> nyavek: how did you get it working in firefox?
[17:39] <Adran> That means ipv6 is functioning.
[17:39] <Adran> next question is what is breaking, incoming or outgoing?
[17:39] <nyavek> marianne: I had to do something with flash, let me see if I can find the instructions I used
[17:40] <rahulprodev> pavlos, yup, got it thanks.
[17:40] <studybox> when i try to connect to an IPv6 address, it doesn't work
[17:40] <gr33n7007h> is `ifconfig` going to become depricated?
[17:40] <Adran> gr33n7007h: already is
[17:41] <Adran> studybox: connecting via what? you were able to ping6 google.com, which means you're communicating over v6 (at least via icmp) and you're able to resolve dns
[17:41] <gr33n7007h> Adran: ok thanks for clearing that up
[17:41] <Adran> its starting to sound like you have a firewall issue
[17:41] <Adran> gr33n7007h: `ip` has replaced it, though I don't think ifconfig is going anywhere soon, just not maintained as much as it used to be.
[17:41] <gr33n7007h> Adran: my thoughts too
[17:41] <marianne> nyavek: I've played with flash too, but the missing piece seems to be HAL
[17:42] <MonkehParade> *sigh* Teamviewer screwed my system up
[17:42] <Adran> gr33n7007h: hold on a second, i got a good beginners guide i used a few years ago if I can find it. ;)
[17:42] <escargotdu25> how can i refind the program files icon in the menu bar ?
[17:42] <nyavek> marianne: yup, that's why I did. I installed HAL and deleted some cache folders in ~/.adobe/FlashPlayer
[17:42] <nyavek> what*
[17:42] <Adran> gr33n7007h: http://www.tecmint.com/ip-command-examples/ and this is a good detailed one http://www.cyberciti.biz/faq/linux-ip-command-examples-usage-syntax/.
[17:43] <gr33n7007h> hey, thanks for the links Adran :)
[17:43] <marianne> nyavek: when I try to download hal,,, it errors
[17:43] <nyavek> marianne: http://askubuntu.com/questions/145735/adobe-flash-player-not-working-with-amazon-prime?rq=1 this is what I followed - the HAL instructions
[17:43] <Adran> gr33n7007h: np
[17:44] <marianne> nyavek: how long ago did you do this... few minutes?
[17:44] <marianne> nyavek: BTW I never got it working in chrome
[17:44] <nyavek> marianne: I did it with firefox last night - tried with chrome a bit earlier
[17:45] <studybox> adran didn't see ping6 let me try
[17:45] <studybox> i read ping
[17:45] <nyavek> marianne: not a huge deal because I can just use FF, just wanted to only need one browser =P
[17:45] <studybox> it's working adran the ipv6 host that i'm trying to connect to is down
[17:46] <studybox> hahaha whoops
[17:46] <escargotdu25> i have deleted icons from the menu bar but theses softs are still in my pc i think. how can i delete them totally ?
[17:46] <studybox> thanks
[17:46] <Adran> *Sigh*
[17:46] <marianne> nyavek: I'm getting package not available when i go to apt-get install hal
[17:46] <nyavek> marianne: did you say you couldnt get yours working?
[17:47] <nyavek> marianne: let me see if I cant find the other instructions. I think i needed to add a repo
[17:47] <marianne> nyavek: works like a charm on FF on my desktop.... laptop is another can of worms
[17:47] <nyavek> marianne: yeah im on a laptop
[17:47] <escargotdu25> is there a sudo... command ?
[17:47] <marianne> nyavek: i added the mjblenner repository already
[17:47] <alazyworkaholic> here's the result of running btrfs check --repair http://pastebin.com/j9HDfmnu Any ideas of what to do?
[17:47] <daftykins> escargotdu25: to do what ? fully remove packages?
[17:48] <escargotdu25> daftykins, yes packages of soft that i installed
[17:49] <daftykins> sudo apt-get purge <package>
[17:49] <nyavek> marianne: youre on 15.04 right?
[17:49] <marianne> nyavek: think i found my issue... checked my repositories and some of the hal ones weren't checked... going to try again
[17:49] <escargotdu25> daftykins, ok thanks i try it
[17:50] <cmosguy> hi all i am trying to install the source for nginx 1.6.3 trusty
[17:50] <nyavek> marianne: ok
[17:50] <cmosguy> but it is install 1.4.6
[17:50] <marianne> nyavek: I was, might go back to it if I can't get 14.04 to work... prefer LTS, was running into problems every morning with 15.04
[17:50] <cmosguy> i am doing apt-get source ngninx
[17:50] <cmosguy> but it s not the version source i want
[17:51] <daftykins> cmosguy: typo'ing nginx might be a bad first start ;)
[17:51] <daftykins> well you can only get source of the version that's in the repos
[17:51] <cmosguy> daftykins, typing it correctly
[17:51] <cmosguy> not in irc tho
[17:51] <cmosguy> daftykins, educate me
[17:51] <cmosguy> how do I get the right source version?
[17:52] <nyavek> marianne: im new to linux myself. was having issues with debian 8, so tried this and it's working flawlessly on my laptop
[17:52] <Alexandrov> Hello
[17:52] <Alexandrov> :D
[17:52] <nyavek> marianne: im using ubuntu gnome if that matters at all to you =P
[17:52] <EriC^^> cmosguy: try <package>=<version>
[17:53] <Alexandrov> Testing, may I know? Anyone can read my chat?
[17:53] <Seveas> Alexandrov: hello mate. We can read it all :)
[17:53] <daftykins> cmosguy: sorry no can do
[17:53] <daftykins> heading out now.
[17:53] <Alexandrov> Okay. Thank you for you respond. It's my first time. :D
[17:53] <nyavek> marianne: but yah, i think im out of luck for hbogo in chrome
[17:54] <Seveas> !info nginx trusty
[17:54] <marianne> nyavek: I never got it to work after trying for about a week... does StarzPlay work for you too?
[17:54] <cmosguy> Seveas, i don't understand i have 1.6.3 installed
[17:55] <Seveas> cmosguy: well, nginx 1.6.x isn't included in trusty. You may need to upgrade Ubuntu, or manually get newer sources.
[17:55] <Seveas> cmosguy: you didn't install it from the official repos then :)
[17:55] <escargotdu25> daftykins, i can't do it. can i go to the software center and try to remove them from here ?
[17:55] <nyavek> marianne: i don't have starz so I wouldn't know
[17:55] <cmosguy> Seveas, i am not sure i don't care actually
[17:55] <Seveas> cmosguy: can you pastebin the output of: apt-cache policy nginx
[17:55] <cmosguy> let me try downloading hte source
[17:55] <cmosguy> Seveas, a bit of a n00b here, what file is that exactly?
[17:56] <Seveas> cmosguy: that's a command you type in the terminal
[17:56] <cmosguy> let me try to download the source and go through the commands to install
[17:56] <daftykins> escargotdu25: i'm leaving now so please ask another
[17:56] <cmosguy> oh
[17:56] <cmosguy> lol
[17:57] <Alexandrov> Are all the people here using the same distro of Linux?
[17:57] <cmosguy> Seveas, http://pastebin.com/DeD6vuFD
[17:57] <OerHeks> Alexandrov, if not, it would be offtopic
[17:58] <Alexandrov> Thank you for respond, OerHeks :)
[17:58] <escargotdu25> daftykins, thx i did it from the software center :)
[17:58] <marianne> nyavek: thank you very much for making me sit back and think about it... HBOGo is working now... StarzPlay is a nightmare of a site for the most part... log in is crap, makes you do it like 10 times
[17:59] <geosmin2> can ubuntu be installed to a btrfs subvolume?
[17:59] <geosmin2> i get the feeling the built-in installer won't know how :)
[17:59] <OerHeks> geosmin2, yes, there are however some issues, also btrfs is in beta, not stable.
[18:00] <geosmin2> OerHeks: can you elaborate on said issues? specific to ubuntu?
[18:00] <mpthrapp> What's a good torrent client with an API? Ideally one that I can use with Python.
[18:00] <f3f33> hello, I
[18:00] <Seveas> cmosguy: so you have a PPA enabled for nginx. Make sure you enable downloading sources from it as well, and apt-get source nginx will do the right thing
[18:00] <f3f33> am trying to find the xml logs of my program, where would I find them?
[18:00] <geosmin2> OerHeks: the fs is stable https://btrfs.wiki.kernel.org/index.php/Main_Page#Stability_status
[18:01] <OerHeks> !btrfs
[18:01] <Seveas> f3f33: /var/log is where most services store their logs, but this really depends on the application.
[18:01] <cmosguy> Seveas, i don't know how to enable the source to do the same? what command do you recommend?
[18:01] <YouCantGetRidOfM> whats sup hoes
[18:01] <YouCantGetRidOfM> bitches
[18:01] <YouCantGetRidOfM> dicks
[18:01] <YouCantGetRidOfM> suck this dick
[18:01] <YouCantGetRidOfM> faggots
[18:01] <Seveas> cmosguy: a text editor
[18:01] <YouCantGetRidOfM> ass eaters
[18:02] <OerHeks> !ops
[18:02] <cmosguy> Seveas, ok an editor to which file?
[18:02] <geosmin2> Will I be able to point the ubuntu installer to a btrfs subvolume and be on my way?
[18:02] <Seveas> cmosguy: there should be a file in /etc/apt/sources.list.d with nginx in the name. Edit it as root/with sudo and make sure it has a deb-src line
[18:02] <Tuggy> any lubuntu users here?
[18:02] <xzcvczx> i am following the help guide for manually mounting ecryptfs, but when i do the add-passphrase i only get a single auth token, does that mean i don't have filename encryption or?
[18:03] <cmosguy> hmm... ok let me try
[18:03] <ki7rw> has anyone tried ispconfig? any commentary on it's performance?
[18:04] <f3f33> Seveas, thank you! I couldnt find it in there, but maybe the program folder is elsewhere
[18:04] <neonthewolf> Hi :)
[18:04] <Seveas> f3f33: which application is it?
[18:05] <f3f33> Seveas, psi+
[18:05] <neonthewolf> I need a bit of help regarding making a distro
[18:05] <neonthewolf> of the latest version of Ubuntu
[18:06] <cmosguy> Seveas, i tried editing the file /etc/apt/sources.list.d/nginx-stable-trusty.list
[18:06] <cmosguy> and added line
[18:06] <Seveas> hmm, that'll be in your homedir somewhere. Maybe ~/.psi or ~/.local/share/psi or something
[18:06] <cmosguy> deb-src http://ppa.launchpad.net/nginx/stable/ubuntu trusty main
[18:06] <Seveas> cmosguy: that looks ok. Try apt-get update and apt-get source nginx
[18:07] <OerHeks> neonthewolf, that is beyond the scope of this channel, there is a wiki >>> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LiveCDCustomization
[18:08] <neonthewolf> Hi, OerHeks I am new to creating a distro and I didnt really get what the creator of that page means by "Live CD customisation"
[18:09] <neonthewolf> I wanted to make a distro of Ubuntu, such as Zorin Linux and Linux Mint.
[18:10] <f3f33> Seveas, it was ~/.local/share/psi+ , thank you very much!
[18:10] <OerHeks> neonthewolf, good luck with that.
[18:10] <neonthewolf> Is it difficult? :( OerHeks
[18:11] <OerHeks> neonthewolf, yes, it is not easy click and play
[18:11] <cmosguy> Seveas, that worked i had to do the apt-get update to get the proper source version
[18:11] <Seveas> f3f33: you're welcome :)
[18:13] <neonthewolf> OerHeks, Of course, but where is a good place to start? Ive been looking through different methods, but none have much customisation and are just editing a livecd image.
[18:21] <neonthewolf> Dont worry :)
[18:28] <jeffreylevesque> anyone know how i can install 'libfaac-dev'
[18:28] <jeffreylevesque> when i do `sudo apt-get install libfaac-dev`, i get 'Unable to locate package libfaac-dev'
[18:30] <jeffreylevesque> i am running ubuntu 14.04
[18:30] <Seveas> jeffreylevesque: make sure you enable the multiverse repo
[18:30] <jeffreylevesque> how do i enable the repo?
[18:31] <EriC^^> sudo software-properties-gtk -e multiverse
[18:31] <jeffreylevesque> do i have to install `software-properties-gtk`?
[18:31] <EriC^^> no
[18:31] <jeffreylevesque> ok thanks :)
[18:31] <Seveas> jeffreylevesque: that comes by default on Ubuntu :)
[18:33] <DukeDrake> hi
[18:36] <MonkeyDust> what strikes me: sudo is not default in debian, it has to be installed
[18:45] <ubuntu_user> hey guys, one question, when I'm installing ubuntu and I want to use a lvm lvm encryption, should I first create a logical partion and " use as Physical Volume for LVM" or first I have to encrypt the particion?
[18:46] <ubuntu_user> I don't know if this choice make any difference
[18:46] <ubuntu_user> lvm or encrypt first?
[18:47] <nicomachus> hi guys, I need to figure out the best way to backup my PC... right now, I think Google Drive is probably my best option for storage. I don't have an external HD nor do any other machines here have enough space to hold the backup file.
[18:47] <astroduck> Hi! I cannot see my user on login screen, I can log into it in tty though, any fix for it?
[18:47] <nicomachus> But I have a 1TB of Drive
[18:47] <nicomachus> astroduck: did you just upgrade to 14.10?
[18:48] <Seveas> ubuntu_user: encrypt first.
[18:48] <astroduck> No, I am on 14.04, it was fine before turning it off, I just installed android studio and turned it off, and on booting it next time my username was not visible, I am logged into guest right now
[18:48] <MonkeyDust> nicomachus do you have enough space left for a backup partition?
[18:49] <nicomachus> MonkeyDust: yes. do I just create that in gparted?
[18:50] <ubuntu_user> thanks Seveas
[18:50] <MonkeyDust> nicomachus well, yes, but you need to backup first, before you start partitioning, it's contradictory
[18:50] <nicomachus> :|
[18:51] <astroduck> nicomachus: Any idea what's wrong?
[18:51] <nicomachus> astroduck: AMD GPU?
[18:51] <astroduck> nicomachus: No, Intel HD 5000, does that mater?
[18:52] <nicomachus> astroduck: I would just use TTY or go to recovery and drop to root and purge android studio, since that's the last thing you installed.
[18:52] <astroduck> nicomachus: I dont think its the problem, I did it on another computer and I didnt face the same issue there
[18:54] <nicomachus> did you try reloading unity?
[18:54] <nicomachus> https://askubuntu.com/questions/491060/no-password-input-field-on-lock-screen
[18:55] <Seveas> astroduck: I constantly had that on 14.04. Problem went away when I upgraded to 14.10
[18:56] <astroduck> Seveas: How do I fix it for the time being?
[18:57] <DukeDrake> hi, I'm trying to install a piece of software and it prompts me, it needs " libXext.so.6"
[18:57] <nicomachus> I didn't get that problem until I upgraded to 14.10, and it was the fglrx drivers.
[18:57] <Seveas> astroduck: upgrade :)
[18:57] <DukeDrake> (I'm on a 64bit system, but the software needs 32bit libs)
[18:57] <DukeDrake> what can I do?
[18:57] <astroduck> Seveas: :( I was afraid you would say this. Ah well, time to update, ...
[18:57] <Seveas> DukeDrake: sudo apt-get install libext6:i386
[18:58] <Seveas> DukeDrake: sudo apt-get install libxext6:i386
[18:58] <nicomachus> astroduck: I took the plunge last week. it wasn't too bad.
[18:58] <DukeDrake> Seveas: thanx! =)
[18:58] <Seveas> I'm on 15.04 already. It works just fine, and has systemd!
[18:58] <DukeDrake> libxext or libXext?
[18:58] <nicomachus> until fglrx completely failed. and now I'm on xorg drivers. and the config in xrandr isn't nearly as easy as AMD CCC.
[18:58] <nicomachus> :(
[18:59] <Seveas> DukeDrake: package names in Ubuntu are always lower case
[18:59] <DukeDrake> thans ^^
[18:59] <nicomachus> Seveas: going to go on up to 15.04 today. that's why I'm trying to backup. I wanna do a fresh install of it instead of just upgrading.
[18:59] <tarelerulz_> How do you format USB thumb drive to fat32 ?
[19:00] <Seveas> nicomachus: there are so few significant differences between 14.10 and 15.04, it's hardly worth reinstalling for
[19:00] <Seveas> tarelerulz_: mkfs -t vfat
[19:00] <nicomachus> Seveas: this PC just needs a fresh install. the first install of 14.04 was done over bad RAM, there are some random corruptions, and upgrading to 14.10 didn't do it any good.
[19:02] <DukeDrake> ok, next: libncurses.so.5 missing. installed via sudo apt-get install libncurses5:i386 , but error remains :(
[19:03] <Seveas> DukeDrake: what's generating the error?
[19:07] <DukeDrake> Seveas: executing the program
[19:07] <DukeDrake> (altera vsim )
[19:08] <DukeDrake> oops, had a typo in the apt-get line
[19:08] <darthanubis> tarelerulz_: rt-click format
[19:08] <Seveas> DukeDrake: http://mattaw.blogspot.nl/2014/05/making-modelsim-altera-starter-edition.html
[19:08] <DukeDrake> omg it works ^^
[19:08] <DukeDrake> thanx anyway
[19:08] <knojoko> The global menu in ubuntu 14.04 takes up space. I have a laptop. is there a way to get that space back?
[19:09] <xangua> knojoko takes up space where?
[19:09] <Seveas> knojoko: use applications that can run full screen
[19:10] <knojoko> on the screen
[19:10] <xangua> that's precisely why the globalmenu was thnk for, instead of having menubars
[19:10] <Seveas> xangua: some people want ALL THE PIXELS :)
[19:10] <xangua> ...
[19:11] <xangua> so you want a menubar? I'm confused
[19:11] <spoown> Hello there ! anyone from scotland ? off-topic but can't remember the channel for off topic chat...
[19:11] <EriC^^> !off-topic
[19:12] <knojoko> I wish there was away to hide that bar
[19:13] <tarelerulz_> thanks seveas
[19:21] <VonGuardian> hi there
[19:21] <VonGuardian> I have an ar9285 atheros wireless card, and i'm using Ubuntu 14.10
[19:21] <VonGuardian> and the wireless is completely broken
[19:21] <harris> hey can i get ubuntu-mate support here
[19:22] <Seveas> no
[19:22] <Seveas> !mate
[19:22] <VonGuardian> i was online yesterday, updated ubuntu, not even a single update to the wireless drivers, it was a buncha other stuff
[19:22] <Seveas> hmm. Well, try #ubuntumate
[19:22] <VonGuardian> but now, it will not go onto the wireless network
[19:22] <VonGuardian> i feel like wiresless has been getting changes in the last few updates, like 2 weeks worth
[19:22] <VonGuardian> it wasn't working, then it was for like 2 weeks
[19:22] <VonGuardian> then it stopped today
[19:23] <VonGuardian> i have tried EVERY single how to on the web for fixing the ar9285 and nothing works
[19:23] <VonGuardian> even though there are like 1000 forum posts about it not working and 1000 more solutions
[19:23] <VonGuardian> i am completely flumoxed and i giv eup
[19:23] <jason__> VonGuardian, I have a card that uses the ath9k driver. When I first switched over from Windows it seemed like it wasn't working. My solution was to move my router a little bit closer >_>.
[19:23] <kostkon> VonGuardian, it's an official derivative, so yes you can
[19:24] <kostkon> VonGuardian, sorry that was for harris
[19:24] <kostkon> harris, yes
[19:24] <harris> is there anyway to get the mate menu to look like the dash
[19:25] <VonGuardian> jason__: it's definitely a driver issue, not the network
[19:25] <kostkon> harris, move one of your panels to the left maybe?
[19:25] <VonGuardian> i had a wirless access point right next to this laptop, and a few weeks ago, reliably, after sleep, no wireless
[19:25] <VonGuardian> then that got fixed somehow, probably a system update
[19:25] <VonGuardian> but now it's broken again
[19:26] <kostkon> harris, you mean the dash?
[19:26] <jason__> VonGuardian, Just throwing it out there. Drivers can potentially control at what power your card broadcasts or something.
[19:26] <harris> kostkon, yes
[19:26] <VonGuardian> yeah seems like there is an issue powering the card
[19:26] <VonGuardian> because it's just super unpredictable
[19:29] <nfk> after upgrading from 14.10 to 15.04 [kubuntu but hopefully does not matter] the intel agn 5100 wi-fi adapter has gone stupidly slow and appears to be this same problem: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=9831101
[19:29] <kostkon> harris, no idea, can't help you with that, sorry.
[19:29] <nfk> also windows is just fine, though actual speeds are only around 46 Mbps but at least it does not start dropping connections
[19:30] <pavlos> VonGuardian, there seems to be an "options ath9k nohwcrypt=1" Does this help?
[19:32] <pavlos> VonGuardian, sudo nano /etc/modprobe.d/ath9k.conf ... add the above line, save, reboot.
[19:40] <nightfuri> how to install/enable 32bit mesa ?
[19:40] <Seveas> nightfuri: sudo apt-get install libglapi-mesa:i386
[19:40] <Seveas> (repeat for other 32bit libs you need)
[19:41] <VonGuardian> pavlos Nope
[19:41] <pavlos> VonGuardian, ok
[19:41] <VonGuardian> as i said, i have done every single how-to on the net for fixing this ath9k problem
[19:41] <VonGuardian> none work
[19:41] <VonGuardian> actually, that fix you suggested, pavlos, made things go all haywire
[19:42] <VonGuardian> networking would not reboot after sleep, permissions were broken and i could not change networking settings
[19:43] <nightfuri> Seveas: thanks
[19:45] <joey_> /join irc.freenode.org
[19:47] <Goose_> What's the best backup/snapshot tool for ubuntu?
[19:48] <bekks> !backup | Goose_
[19:49] <Goose_> So would it be redundant to run a deja dup backup as well as a timeshift snapshot?
[19:49] <bekks> Goose_: Depends on what you are safing in particular.
[19:49] <bekks> *saving
[19:50] <Goose_> Well I just had to reinstall my system because 15.04 made things all weird. So I'd mainly just wanna save my home folder
[19:50] <Goose_> in case I needed to go back to another version/fix issues
[19:51] <[n0mad]> deja-dup seems to work best for me. i've tried systemback and timeshift and they don't run automatically for me
[19:51] <bekks> Goose_: So use the tool thta fits your needs best.
[19:51] <[n0mad]> deja-dup seems to run auto just fine
[19:51] <Goose_> Thanks!
[19:51] <nfk> Goose_, i use git for that
[19:51] <Goose_> So I'm having anothe issue as well
[19:52] <Goose_> My inidcators at the top left are all black and really hard to see
[19:53] <Goose_> http://i.imgur.com/EKDb1Dt.png look at top right
[19:53] <Goose_> anyone know how ot fix that?
[19:55] <k1l> Goose_: choose another indicator theme
[19:55] <[n0mad]> you can change the icons in unity tweak tool..also in appearance settings
[19:55] <Goose_> How do you change it?
[19:55] <k1l> Goose_: like on unity-tweak-tool
[19:55] <Goose_> Thanks
[19:56] <excelsiora> hi, #ubuntu, I've been trying to help someone with a problem they experienced on an upgrade to 15.04, and we've been googling "end kernel panic not syncing vfs unable to mount root" etc... and we've got him working on the 2nd latest kernel, but we'd like to somehow repair and move forward
[19:57] <Goose_> Changing the theme doesn't change them
[19:58] <k1l> Goose_: not the general theme, the indicators theme
[19:58] <Sheepolution> Hi
[19:59] <Goose_> I don't see anything for indicator themes
[19:59] <Seveas> oi mneptok
[20:00] <Sheepolution> I seem to have installed wrong nvidia drivers, and now I can't start any games anymore. I am not sure how to reverse this.
[20:00] <Sheepolution> I tried enabling webGL, where I used this: http://askubuntu.com/a/540174
[20:00] <Sheepolution> (it did not work)
[20:00] <Sheepolution> And I seem to have screwed up my Nvidia settings
[20:01] <daftykins> excelsiora: purge the newer perhaps, but i have to be the first to say that trying to solve a problem through an intermediary is not fun
[20:01] <UndefinedNaN> s
[20:02] <excelsiora> daftykins: thanks, I was thinking to do that, I forget exactly how, can you point me to instructions, and I'll start googling now too.
[20:03] <Sheepolution> I tried setting the old Nvidia settings with software-properties-gtk, but that didn't seem to have any effect.
[20:03] <OerHeks> !ppapurge | ppa:xorg-edgers/ppa
[20:03] <Webonaute> hi. I am trying to use vagrant with ubuntu/trusty64, when I install any package, all config file get .dpkg-new at the end of each config filename.
[20:03] <Webonaute> any idea why?
[20:04] <Sheepolution> These are the options I have: http://i.gyazo.com/34f0106f7b5650c0b4f9ac477820e4f0.png
[20:04] <bekks> Sheepolution: Use ppapurge before.
[20:05] <Sheepolution> bekks: Oh I just saw ubottu's answer. Okay I will try that
[20:07] <dsad> d
[20:07] <R13ose1> People say this can't hear me on Skype, how do I boost the mic input?
[20:09] <Nibbler> s
[20:09] <daftykins> excelsiora: confirm the kernel name via "dpkg -l | grep kernel-image" then "sudo apt-get purge <package>"
[20:11] <RedOrangeZ> Help me! My mouse!
[20:11] <RedOrangeZ> It's...dead!
[20:11] <daftykins> off to the pet store Monday then
[20:11] <RedOrangeZ> Well, it's not really a mouse.
[20:11] <Seveas> daftykins++
[20:11] <RedOrangeZ> It's more of a trackpad.
[20:11] <RedOrangeZ> I don't think they sell those at the pet store.
[20:11] <daftykins> ah-ha, well the devil is in the details
[20:12] <RedOrangeZ> But foreals, I fuxed something up.
[20:12] <RedOrangeZ> :(
[20:12] <daftykins> so i'm thinking either you explain on one line what's actually wrong, or...
[20:12] <daftykins> don't use that language please
[20:12] <RedOrangeZ> My trackpad stopped working.
[20:12] <RedOrangeZ> I used an X
[20:12] <RedOrangeZ> For censorship.
[20:12] <RedOrangeZ> I'm on a chromebook. :(
[20:12] <Seveas> doesn't matter. That kind of language is not welcome.
[20:12] <Seveas> So kindly explain the problem in detail, without swearing.
[20:13] <RedOrangeZ> What if I say, F*****.
[20:13] <RedOrangeZ> >.>
[20:13] <Seveas> then I'd say go away.
[20:13] <RedOrangeZ> Or *u******.
[20:15] <daftykins> RedOrangeZ: using what, chrouton?
[20:15] <RedOrangeZ> Just ubuntu.
[20:15] <daftykins> most of the chromebook ubuntus are hacked on so i'm not gonna touch that
[20:15] <RedOrangeZ> Hacked?? >.>
[20:22] <orion_> sup
[20:23] <Sheepolution> Restarted my computer, and came back to say thanks! I can play games again
[20:25] <Sheepolution> Wait what, and my webGL problem is solved as well? o_O
[20:27] <Sheepolution> Not sure how that works, but hey great. The only problem is that when I drag my window over chrome it leaves a trail behind haha
[20:28] <dyrnade> hi guys, how can i insert a string after a specific line in python ?
[20:30] <Seveas> dyrnade: you may be looking for #python :) (str.split('\n')/list.insert(pos, str)/'\n'.join(str))
[20:30] <dyrnade> nobody gives a shit to me there :D
[20:30] <Seveas> !language
[20:30] <Seveas> hmm. That used to say "don't swear". Well, don't swear.
[20:33] <jeffreylevesque> i am unable to run `sudo software-properties-gtk -e multiverse` to enable multiverse repostiory
[20:33] <jeffreylevesque> it says could not find command `software-properties-gtk`
[20:33] <jeffreylevesque> is there an alternative way via command line?
[20:33] <gmathe> hey
[20:33] <gmathe> i got a problem with vim
[20:33] <maslen1> Can someone explain the different downloads available on launchpad? For example, looking at jbigkit there's: jbigkit_2.1-3.1.dsc, jbigkit_2.1.orig.tar.gz, and jbigkit_2.1-3.1.debian.tar.xz
[20:40] <geri> i just wrote an image to my sd card using: sudo dd if=ubuntu.img of=/dev/disk2s1 bs=1m ... how can i read the sd card and create an image from it?
[20:41] <sd1001> You just switch the options to if and of
[20:42] <excelsiora> ok, purged kernel, suggests rerunning boot loader? just reboot?
[20:42] <CryptoSiD> what was the name of ubuntu just before vivid, i just upgraded to vivid and i have a ppa that dont work using vivid release
[20:42] <CryptoSiD> so ill use the one before
[20:43] <kostkon> CryptoSiD, utopic
[20:43] <CryptoSiD> thanks (that memory tho)
[20:43] <CryptoSiD> lol
[20:45] <bekks> CryptoSiD: That may break things.
[20:45] <CryptoSiD> its only softether
[20:45] <CryptoSiD> dont seems to break anything
[20:45] <CryptoSiD> brb gotta reboot to vivid
[20:52] <maslen1> Any clue why /tmp would appear to not be world-writeable on my ubuntu 15.04 install?
[20:52] <bekks> maslen1: Which permissions does it have, instead?
[20:54] <crumpr> hi folks
[20:54] <crumpr> I've got a question regading network-manager
[20:54] <maslen1> bekks: From ls-lh: drwxrwxrwt 10 root root
[20:55] <bekks> maslen1: that directory is world writable
[20:55] <maslen1> I know :(
[20:55] <crumpr> I know how to import an openvpn config via gui, but is there a way to do this via script?
[20:56] <maslen1> jbigkit-2.1$ make
[20:56] <maslen1> cd libjbig && make -e
[20:56] <maslen1> make[1]: Entering directory '/home/user/jbigkit-2.1/libjbig'
[20:56] <maslen1> gcc -O2 -W -Wno-unused-result -c -o jbig.o jbig.c
[20:56] <maslen1> Assembler messages:
[20:56] <maslen1> Error: can't open /tmp/ccY2ZprU.s for reading: No such file or directory
recipe for target 'jbig.o' failed
[20:56] <bekks> maslen1: /tmp/ccY2ZprU.s does not exist. Thats different from /tmp not being world writable
[20:57] <maslen1> bekks: But isn't make supposed to be able to create tmp folders as needed?
[20:57] <maslen1> And why does the issue go away if I run make as root?
[20:57] <bekks> maslen1: Not necessarily.
[20:58] <bekks> maslen1: Broken Makefile.
[20:58] <bekks> maslen1: I've seen a lot of software not being compilable as non-root
[20:58] <maslen1> I had the same issue with imagemagick too though, which is a large project :(.
[20:59] <maslen1> And I'm using the ubuntu source downloads from launchpad, not the dev versions
[20:59] <Bashing-om> !ask | crumpr
[20:59] <bekks> maslen1: So pastebin the entire build log and provide the URL of your paste
[21:00] <maslen1> bekks: What's strange is that after the first time I build it, it's fine. It's only an error on the first time
[21:00] <bekks> maslen1: So its a Makefile issue.
[21:01] <nith1210> !pastebinit
[21:02] <maslen1> bekks: http://paste.ubuntu.com/10902788/
[21:03] <bekks> maslen1: run make clean before please.
[21:03] <bekks> maslen1: and make distclean, if available.
[21:05] <maslen1> bekks: http://paste.ubuntu.com/10902831/
[21:05] <frecel> does anyone here have any experience running ubuntu on x86 tablets?
[21:05] <maslen1> bekks: Sorry, http://paste.ubuntu.com/10902835/
[21:06] <bekks> maslen1: thats not the full output
[21:06] <maslen1> bekks: Erm, it is from two attempts at running `make`
[21:06] <bekks> maslen1: It is not, as your pastebin shows.
[21:07] <bekks> maslen1: PAstebin the entire output of make please, not just a few lines. And run make clean; make distclean before
[21:09] <charlie_sanders> can I use DD to clone a harddrive ?
[21:09] <bekks> charlie_sanders: yes.
[21:09] <SchrodingersScat> charlie_sanders: if you are careful
[21:09] <charlie_sanders> coolio Im going to give it a go
[21:10] <maslen1> bekks: http://paste.ubuntu.com/10902905/ is what I got this time
[21:10] <maslen1> make distclean doesn't do anything.
[21:10] <orion_> word, just do dd bs=1M if=/dev/random of=/dev/sda =P JK
[21:10] <maslen1> orion_: Probably want /dev/urandom
[21:10] <bekks> maslen1: I dont get why are are randomly firing up commands.
[21:11] <orion_> naa, urandom would take too long
[21:11] <maslen1> bekks: Huh?
[21:11] <maslen1> orion_: You got them switched, urandom is non-blocking
[21:12] <orion_> maslen1: thx I should look into that.
[21:12] <bekks> maslen1: I was asking for make clean; make distclean; make - you did: sudo make clean; make; make
[21:12] <orion_> I've been under the impression that urandom waits for system entropy
[21:12] <maslen1> bekks: OK, coming right up
[21:13] <maslen1> bekks: http://paste.ubuntu.com/10902948/
[21:20] <blackgatonegro> Hi, how I force firefox and chromiun to open local swf files?
[21:23] <samfreenode> If I buy this, will it work on Ubuntu 14.04 LTS? http://www.amazon.co.uk/FiiO-E10K-Headphone-Amplifier-DAC/dp/B00LP3AMC2/
[21:24] <njjewers> I'm tryin to use optirun, and I'm getting "Cannot access secondary GPU, secondary X is not active." Any advice?
[21:24] <nith1210> maslen1: just out of ucriousity, did you start with dpkg-source -x ?
[21:24] <nith1210> *curiosity
[21:26] <maslen1> nith1210: I don't know what you're asking
[21:27] <nith1210> maslen1: so, your original question about the dsc, orig.tar.gz and debian.tar.gz: They're the packaging source.
[21:28] <maslen1> oh, yes
[21:28] <nith1210> maslen1: if you download the collection of them, then use dpkg-source -x file.dsc, it'll apply all of the debian patches.
[21:28] <maslen1> I'm guessing dsc is short for "digital signature" ?
[21:28] <maslen1> cool
[21:28] <maslen1> so I need all 3 if I want to recreate the source file used to create the packages?
[21:29] <nith1210> maslen1: If you didn't start with that, you'll likely redo alot of the work the packagers did, and jbigkit-2.0 includes a patch called "allNewMainMakefile.diff"
[21:29] <nith1210> maslen1: All of them, plus the dpkg-source -x command
[21:29] <maslen1> Going to test that out right now. That actually makes a ton of sense.
[21:30] <blackgatonegro> I updated to ubuntu 14.04 and now I cant' open local flash files (swf files) not even using Gnash or another flash player.
[21:30] <nith1210> maslen1: also, when you build, skip make, go straight to "fakeroot debian/rules clean binary" which you run from in the source folder
[21:30] <nith1210> maslen1: It'll do make along the way.
[21:30] <maslen1> And I think I just figured out my make issue.
[21:30] <maslen1> I'm running a fuzzer in the background. One of its steps are to clean out /tmp :(
[21:30] <maslen1> Which basically screws up any other programs running on the system.
[21:30] <maslen1> :(
[21:31] <nith1210> Also, just on what I was reading, I suggest you NEVER run make as root. It's a shortcut to a world of hurt.
[21:31] <maslen1> I know.
[21:31] <maslen1> But I guess in this case, it prevented the fuzzer from overwriting those files, which is why it worked.
[21:32] <ManicMiner> Hi. i instaled ubuntu 32 bits precise lts in my 64 bit machine. i had the live cd from my old computer 32 bits. . i guess i should had downloaded the 64 bit version. is there an easy way to install a 64 bit program ?
[21:33] <ManicMiner> i want to install atom ide
[21:33] <bekks> ManicMiner: Reinstall a 64bit Ubuntu version.
[21:33] <nith1210> ManicMiner: To the best of my knowledge, it's impossible without reinstalling as a 64-bit machine. I don't believe the 32-bit kernel is capable of running 32-bit code
[21:34] <nith1210> that last 32-bit was supposed to be 64-bit
[21:34] <bekks> ManicMiner: After that, you can use 64bit programs.
[21:34] <geri> i just wrote an image to my sd card using: sudo dd if=ubuntu.img of=/dev/disk2s1 bs=1m ... how can i read the sd card and create an image from it?
[21:34] <maslen1> nith1210: Awsome, ty so much
[21:35] <ManicMiner> bekks: you mean reinstall everything?
[21:35] <bekks> ManicMiner: Correct.
[21:36] <nith1210> maslen1: Np, have fun. If you get to the end and plan to publish it to a ppa, I highly recommend looking into dpkg-buildpackage, but if it's for personal use, it's not necessary.
[21:37] <maslen1> nith1210: I plan on reporting a whole bunch of bugs today
[21:37] * maslen1 got his hands on a fuzzer
[21:37] <bekks> maslen1: What is that fuzzer all about?
[21:38] <daftykins> application fuzzer for testing the sanitisation of data input i expect
[21:38] <daftykins> i.e. 100% off topic :)
[21:38] <maslen1> daftykins: Depends if you care about security or not for your applications.
[21:38] <MonkeyDust> ManicMiner got your name from the zx spectrum game? (sorry for the offtopic)
[21:38] <maslen1> bekks: Basically, using US-CERT's BFF, modified to fuzz imagemagick from ubuntu 15.04 (instead of imagemagick 5.02 from who knows how old), got about 11 crashes, and now triaging to see if any of them are exploitable.
[21:38] <guest345968> hello
[21:39] <daftykins> maslen1: well this is a support channel, so no, you're 100% off topic 100% of the time :)
[21:39] <daftykins> maslen1: feel free to chat about it in #ubuntu-offtopic though
[21:39] <guest345968> i made the update from ubuntu mate 14.04 to 14.04.2 to make the bluetooth on my notebook working,now my wifi didnt works good
[21:40] <maslen1> daftykins: The fuzzing is the one thing I haven't been discussing here. Just how to rebuild the packages used by Ubuntu so I can write good bug reports.
[21:40] <daftykins> good stuff
[21:40] <ManicMiner> MonkeyDust: yes only the best :)
[21:41] <barry65576354> Linux newbie here, I've read that Linux is virtually malware free, and only dowloading from trusted sources is adviced. Is there any method of determining if something is malicious for the avarage user? Wanted to use this https://bitbucket.org/fx_/quakelivelauncher/overview
[21:42] <daftykins> barry65576354: sticking to the packages in default repos is the trusted way, going third party means there's no way to be 100% sure
[21:43] <barry65576354> How hard is it to code malware for Linux?
[21:44] <daftykins> well lets take a look at all the malware available...
[21:44] <daftykins> *tumbleweed*
[21:44] <MonkeyDust> barry65576354 hard, because there is no known malware in the wild, although every coder should be challenged
[21:45] <OerHeks> barry65576354, that url points to a ppa:broken/ppa (hilarious name) so it contains no malware, but maybe not safe. it is private.
[21:45] <barry65576354> What's the worst that can happen then?
[21:45] <barry65576354> if I use it
[21:46] <orion_> hahaha
[21:46] <MonkeyDust> barry65576354 impossible to say, because nothing ever happened, so far
[21:46] <orion_> ANYTHING
[21:46] <OerHeks> Then you have to file a bugreport
[21:47] <OerHeks> backup your data first
[21:48] <barry65576354> ok thanks
[21:48] <MonkeyDust> !av > barry65576354 for completness, read this a bit
[21:49] <demo> hi
[21:49] <demo> alguien que hable español?
[21:50] <daftykins> !es
[21:52] <ManicMiner> barry65576354: well i think they were referring was if you don't install software as root and the software contains malware only the user that installed that is affected and doesn't spread to other users. but there is always a potential to bypass to other users with vulnerability exploitation's or use your computer to scan internal networks ,etc
[22:06] <Captonjamason> allright
[22:07] <Captonjamason> im installing ubuntu for a friend and when i run the ubuntu mini remix installer the monitor im using says out of scan range
[22:07] <Captonjamason> its a old dell monitor
[22:07] <Captonjamason> please help, im on a time limit
[22:07] <daftykins> when you say mini remix, what is the filename and where did you get it?
[22:08] <daftykins> ok - please bear in mind an emergency on your part does not constitute one for us
[22:08] <ZeZu> has there been a mini remix in a long while?
[22:08] <Captonjamason> http://www.ubuntu-mini-remix.org/
[22:08] <ZeZu> wasn't that for mac mini ?
[22:08] <Captonjamason> no
[22:08] <Captonjamason> any pc
[22:08] <daftykins> ok that does not look official so can't support you with that
[22:08] * ZeZu shrugs, never heard of it then
[22:08] <Captonjamason> it uses the standard installer daftykins
[22:08] <kostkon> Captonjamason, why not use the regular iso?
[22:09] <daftykins> sorry, that doesn't mean anything at all Captonjamason
[22:09] <daftykins> !mini
[22:09] <daftykins> either use the real official ones, or we can't help you
[22:09] <ZeZu> any how, scan range for monitor = can you boot into single or vga mode?
[22:09] <kostkon> Captonjamason, not an official derivative so not supported here
[22:09] <Captonjamason> its using the normal ubuntu ubiquity installer, it just cuts back on packages
[22:10] <Captonjamason> thats why i came here
[22:10] <kostkon> Captonjamason, the majority of them do, makes no difference
[22:10] <daftykins> your image is not official, can't help.
[22:10] <kostkon> Captonjamason, use one that is supported and we'll try to help you
[22:10] <Captonjamason> im freaking out
[22:10] <ZeZu> boot the installer in console mode, use a vga param
[22:10] <daftykins> idiot
[22:10] <ZeZu> ( try the normal stuff )
[22:11] <samfreenode> If I buy this, will it work on Ubuntu 14.04 LTS? http://www.amazon.co.uk/FiiO-E10K-Headphone-Amplifier-DAC/dp/B00LP3AMC2/
[22:11] <ZeZu> samfreenode, it doesn't look like something that would require any support = it should work w. anything?
[22:12] <bekks> samfreenode: Thats ho device a computer actually "sees" - it is an amplifier.
[22:12] <daftykins> it has optical coaxial and standard analog jacks
[22:13] <bish-OP> has anyone installed 15.04 with Unity 8
[22:14] <daftykins> bish-OP: can you phrase an actual question?
[22:15] <bish-OP> can't get unity 8 installed on 15.04
[22:15] <daftykins> bish-OP: a good way to ask a question is to say what you ran and what went wrong
[22:16] <cantinajim> i was hoping to get a little help anybody got a minute
[22:16] <bish-OP> thanks daftykins
[22:16] <MichaelTiebesl> hi there, is here somebody who has installed diaspora on ubuntu 15.04 as pod?
[22:16] <daftykins> cantinajim: ask the question
[22:17] <cantinajim> i had created a disk with media on it and had a media server
[22:17] <daftykins> ok...
[22:17] <samfreenode> bekks: ZeZu: So it will work?
[22:17] <sjors_> I'm suffering from a strange problem with Ubuntu 14.04; when I'm not really using my laptop the fan keeps powering on and off. It doesn't happen when playing music. Any suggestions?
[22:18] <cantinajim> now i installed 14.04 and i have duplicate folders on my drive and I can't figure out why
[22:19] <daftykins> cantinajim: use http://paste.ubuntu.com to share what you're seeing via and "ls -al" within the path perhaps.
[22:19] <daftykins> no idea what you mean otherwise
[22:20] <cantinajim> ok
[22:20] <ZeZu> samfreenode: yes
[22:21] <samfreenode> ZeZu: yay I am going to buy it and plug a Berodynamic DT770 headphone into it once my Kingston HyperX Cloud II gaming headset is refunded ^^
[22:21] <daftykins> samfreenode: if you're just using an analog cable from your PC into that, sure
[22:22] <samfreenode> daftykins: I need an analog cable too!??!?!?
[22:22] <samfreenode> daftykins: I don't think I have one...
[22:22] <samfreenode> daftykins: It's not just an amp though, it's a DAC
[22:22] <samfreenode> daftykins: So it needs a digital input I think
[22:23] <daftykins> samfreenode: look at the images of the device you linked, it has a micro USB by the looks for power, (maybe?) then an analog jack and a digital coaxial (SPDIF) connector
[22:23] <daftykins> you have to plug it in somehow...
[22:23] <daftykins> if it somehow just works over USB then yeah, i'd say unlikely you're gonna get that working
[22:23] <cantinajim> can you see it
[22:23] <samfreenode> daftykins: It says those are outputs
[22:23] <samfreenode> daftykins: It won't work?!?!?!
[22:23] <daftykins> then i wouldn't buy it.
[22:24] <daftykins> cantinajim: not until you share the link here, no
[22:24] <Captonjamason> ff
[22:25] <daftykins> ?
[22:25] <cantinajim> here you go http://paste.ubuntu.com/10903592/
[22:26] <daftykins> cantinajim: you need to run it where you see duplicates, i don't see any there
[22:27] <azizLIGHT> What programming language should I learn if I want to extend/modify things about the desktop or make a gui program
[22:27] <cantinajim> ok
[22:28] <Captonjamason> hey guess what all of you
[22:28] <Captonjamason> i just waisted one of my disks for nothing
[22:28] <Captonjamason> iinstalled a official flavor
[22:28] <daftykins> well at least you're running something we can support now, right?
[22:28] <daftykins> you mean tried to boot?
[22:29] <Captonjamason> cou could have supported the other one
[22:29] <Captonjamason> *you
[22:29] <daftykins> no
[22:29] <daftykins> _NO_
[22:29] <cantinajim> here you go http://paste.ubuntu.com/10903647/
[22:29] <groggemans> azizLIGHT: You should take a look at Qt its a C++ framework
[22:29] <Captonjamason> fine daftykins
[22:30] <daftykins> cantinajim: when you said you 'make the disk' what did you mean?
[22:30] <Captonjamason> just tell me how i fix this now
[22:30] <azizLIGHT> groggemans: is that easy to begin with for a zero experience person
[22:30] <Captonjamason> daftykins
[22:30] <Captonjamason> help me
[22:30] <Captonjamason> now
[22:30] <daftykins> Captonjamason: no.
[22:30] <azizLIGHT> Right now I do stuff in bash, but sometimes I want a gui
[22:31] <Captonjamason> look ok
[22:31] <daftykins> Captonjamason: i don't like your attitude and your emergency is not mine.
[22:31] <azizLIGHT> Or interact in better ways with more things
[22:31] <cantinajim> i had it in precise pangolian took it out installed 14.04 and put it back in and tried to get it going again using samba
[22:31] <daftykins> cantinajim: what's the disk setup? just a single hard disk?
[22:31] <Captonjamason> im never coming on here again
[22:31] <cantinajim> yes
[22:31] <Captonjamason> i thought this was supossed to be a helpfull channel
[22:32] <daftykins> Captonjamason: good stuff. come back when you are more grown up perhaps.
[22:32] <Captonjamason> shut up
[22:32] <harris> hey daftykins
[22:32] <harris> Captonjamason, leave
[22:32] <daftykins> good evening
[22:32] <groggemans> azizLIGHT: You should be able to find a lot of tutorials, if your used to bash, you will probably get along with it quite fast
[22:32] <cantinajim> the path would be /media/bob/parta for movies and /media/bob/partb for music
[22:32] <harris> daftykins, so i have a dual monitor setup
[22:33] <daftykins> no point addressing me directly, ask the entire channel as someone might know
[22:33] <azizLIGHT> groggemans: alright, thanks. I'll look into c++
[22:33] <azizLIGHT> Or qt
[22:33] <azizLIGHT> ?
[22:33] <harris> how do i set it up so that each monitor is its own workspace
[22:33] <daftykins> cantinajim: hrmm perhaps those folders are best renamed to something more appropriate then?
[22:34] <daftykins> no idea why they're called that, though
[22:34] <cantinajim> i partitioned the hdd and created the partions one for music and one for movies
[22:35] <daftykins> aaaaah that'll be why they're in media perhaps then
[22:35] <cantinajim> yes
[22:36] <daftykins> cantinajim: how about sharing "df -h" ?
[22:36] <daftykins> that might give some clues too
[22:36] <cantinajim> ok
[22:36] <cantinajim> run that from root
[22:36] <daftykins> nah just your user is fine
[22:37] <groggemans> azizLIGHT: Qt adds a lot of functions to C++ to make gui programming easier but the language is still C++. Basic Qt tutorials will learn you both C++ as Qt specific stuff.
[22:37] <azizLIGHT> Ah I see
[22:37] <harushimo> quick question? Is there a way to detect the iso for ubuntu on usb stick?
[22:37] <harushimo> I want to do an install that way
[22:37] <cantinajim> here you go http://paste.ubuntu.com/10903751/
[22:38] <[n0mad]> harushimo: yes, you can create a bootable usb key to install from
[22:39] <daftykins> cantinajim: looks like A1 and B1 are real, A and B are possibly just folders 0o
[22:39] <harushimo> I downloaded the iso. Do I need a special program on ubuntu?
[22:39] <[n0mad]> harushimo: are you in ubuntu now?
[22:39] <harushimo> I'm using 12.04 LTS. I'm upgrading 14.04.2 LTS
[22:39] <cantinajim> i agree A and B used to be the only partitions now A1 and B1 contain everything
[22:40] <harushimo> yes
[22:40] <[n0mad]> hmm, does 12.04 have Startup Disk Creator? that's how i did mine in Ubuntu but i was on 14.10 at the time
[22:40] <cantinajim> i want to put everthing back and get rid of A1 and B1
[22:41] <harushimo> [n0mad]: let me check
[22:41] <daftykins> harushimo: what do you want to do? put it on a USB flash drive?
[22:41] <Captonjamason> ive calmed down
[22:41] <harushimo> I use the usb flash drive as a my install source instead of a traditional CD
[22:41] <Captonjamason> can i please get help with this
[22:41] <harushimo> I mean I want to use the usb flash drive as my install source
[22:42] <harushimo> everytime I do an upgrade from ubuntu something breaks
[22:42] <daftykins> harushimo: plug it in, check which device letter it is (/dev/sdX) then run "sudo dd if=/path/to/ubuntu.iso of=/dev/sdX bs=2M"
[22:42] <[n0mad]> ah, and there's the command line way
[22:42] <genii> harushimo: Where sdX is, replace with actual name of your usb stick
[22:43] <daftykins> genii: ^5 \o/
[22:43] <harris> anyone
[22:43] <daftykins> oh yeah i forgot about your question
[22:43] * daftykins scrolls up
[22:43] * genii slides daftykins a fresh coffee
[22:43] <daftykins> :D ty sir
[22:43] <daftykins> separate workspaces on multi-screen, nope not something i've done
[22:43] <harushimo> thanks for the help
[22:44] <harris> daftykins, :(
[22:44] <harushimo> I'll try the command line way
[22:44] <harushimo> bs=2M what does that mean
[22:44] <EriC^^> blocksize 2MB
[22:45] <harris> i am going to cry
[22:45] <harushimo> thank you
[22:50] <daftykins> cantinajim: try "sudo umount /dev/sda2" then "sudo umount /dev/sda1" then "sudo mv /media/PARTA /media/1" then "sudo mv /media/PARTB /media/2" then reboot
[22:51] <oats> I found this really cool terminal command
[22:51] <oats> $(base64 -d<<<H4sIAOOhO1UAA3Mp8C7xsswyyXIp1C/K18tIz0jK0de3Sk5PL1UoqMzkAgBUpjlpIAAAAA==|gzip -d|tr A-Za-z N-ZA-Mn-za-m|rev)
[22:52] <daftykins> shockingly, i do not trust that :D
[22:54] <cantinajim> alright thank you for your help
[22:56] <oats> daftykins: why wouldn't you D:
[22:56] <gr33n7007h> oats: vlc youtube stream?
[22:56] <daftykins> because i don't know you :)
[22:56] <yousir> In Xubuntu, how do i change the "Whisker Menu" style, to the more minimal one, without the search bar?
[22:56] <oats> gr33n7007h: how'd you guess!
[22:56] <gr33n7007h> oats: magic
[22:56] <oats> :O
[22:56] <oats> teach me
[22:57] <gr33n7007h> not today
[22:57] <oats> D:
[22:57] <oats> ok
[22:57] <[n0mad]> it was so much nicer when I didn't have kids living upstairs
[22:57] <[n0mad]> sorry
[22:57] * [n0mad] switches tabs
[23:00] <xavii> hello
[23:00] <harushimo> thanks everyone it worked
[23:00] <harushimo> I'm going to do install 14.04LTS
[23:00] <harushimo> be back in a few hours
[23:00] <daftykins> enjoy
[23:02] <gr33n7007h> QcXgW9w4wQd/eb.utuoy//:ptth oats just for you ;P
[23:02] <oats> gr33n7007h: you forgot `rev` :p
[23:03] <gr33n7007h> i didn't :)
[23:05] <EriC^^> i wrote a nasty line once with that base64
[23:06] <gayfag> hi
[23:07] <tgm4883> gayfag: you should change your nick
[23:08] <gayfag> http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=hOjOv-bR0bQ
[23:08] <gr33n7007h> troll alert gayfag
[23:08] <[n0mad]> he didn't actually come here for help or he would i'm sure
[23:08] <tgm4883> gr33n7007h: I agree
[23:08] <maslen1> Why are variables being optimized out with: CXXFLAGS = -O0 -g -pthread
[23:09] <gr33n7007h> tgm4883: been kicked from numerous channels
[23:13] <tsoutseki_> i've asked that before again, here, i think, but i can't find the log. how can i disable the 'nickname has quit / joined' messages(?) on xChat
[23:13] <EriC^^> tsoutseki_: right click the channel and click settings
[23:14] <mjollnerd> I've got a script called "customer" and it's whole purpose is to grep for something. Is there a way that I can set it so that I type "customer searchterm" and it replaces the grep search with whatever I typed for searchterm?
[23:14] <tsoutseki_> EriC^^, thx
[23:14] <EriC^^> mjollnerd: yeah
[23:15] <mjollnerd> Basically instead of running the script, having it prompt me for the variable and then grepping, I want to be able to identify the variable as part of the command that calls the script to execute
[23:15] <mjollnerd> almost like an option
[23:15] <EriC^^> grep "$1"
[23:15] <EriC^^> will replace $1 with the first argument to customer
[23:15] <mjollnerd> interesting. let me try that real quick
[23:16] <oats> mjollnerd: in a script, $1 is the first argument, $2 is the second, and so forth, and $@ is every argument
[23:16] <oats> so in "customer blah", $1 becomes "blah"
[23:16] <mjollnerd> ooo nice. got it
[23:16] <EriC^^> if [ ! -n "$1" ]; then echo forgot the term; exit; fi you could add that before so it checks if you put something so ti doesn't just hang for grep if you forget
[23:16] <SchrodingersScat> mjollnerd: http://mywiki.wooledge.org/BashGuide/Parameters#Special_Parameters_and_Variables
[23:16] <gr33n7007h> oats: sudo ruby -e 'eval("bG9vcCB7IG9wZW4oJy9kZXYvY29uc29sZScpLmlvY3RsKDE5MjUwLCByYW5kKDAuLjgpKSB9".unpack("m0")[0])' # here's a nice one for you led disco ;P
[23:16] <oats> I don't know ruby :(
[23:17] <oats> No idea what that one does
[23:17] <gr33n7007h> oats: makes you keyboard led's dance
[23:18] <oats> actually
[23:18] <oats> lemme go about this rationally
[23:18] <oats> If I remove the 'eval' bit (and sudo, though there's nothing suspicious about that at all) I should safely get what would be executed
[23:19] <gr33n7007h> oats: I wouldn't post anything malicious :P
[23:19] <oats> of course not :D
[23:19] <daftykins> lets take the off topic chat to relevant channels now
[23:20] <gr33n7007h> daftykins: my bad
[23:20] <EriC^^> i'm with dafty on this, plus my skin is itching to write naughty tricks
[23:20] <daftykins> XD
[23:21] <mjollnerd> Cool it worked perfect. Thanks guys
[23:37] <Foxhoudnz> oh ubuntu
[23:37] <Foxhoudnz> what happened to you
[23:38] <Foxhoudnz> you used to be so great
[23:38] <daftykins> met the wrong girl, partied too hard... went a little off the rails.
[23:38] <PC-2011> hello has anyone ever tired to run java applications like minecraft or starmade or any other java application on multiple old computers say Intel pentium 2s
[23:38] <Foxhoudnz> A girl name Cononical
[23:38] <Foxhoudnz> amirite?
[23:38] <genii> Foxhoudnz: The channel for lamenting would be #ubuntu-offtopic ... in this one we address other issues
[23:38] <daftykins> PC-2011: that would not even be worth trying, java + old = disaster
[23:39] <Foxhoudnz> Canonomical*
[23:39] <gr33n7007h> people still got pentium 2's
[23:39] <Foxhoudnz> Canonical**
[23:39] <Sbur> I have Ubuntu on my desktop. It has a Blu Ray player / burner. I put a Blu Ray in it, but the computer doesn't recognize it. How can I tell it that there is a Blu Ray in the drive?
[23:39] <Foxhoudnz> genii: well I do have a legit question
[23:39] <bazhang> Foxhoudnz, thats enough
[23:39] <Foxhoudnz> bazhang: What is
[23:39] <usr13> bcm4318
[23:40] <EriC^^> Foxhoudnz: are you drunk?
[23:40] <daftykins> usr13: what of it?
[23:40] <bprompt> PC-2011: dunno minecraft or starmade.... but when I had a pII.... wait a second... I had a celeron 500mhz.. anyway.. close enough I guess, I used to run java apps, like jedit
[23:40] <usr13> How to make it work?
[23:40] <daftykins> !broadcom | usr13
[23:40] <petrvs> Sbur: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/BluRayAndHDDVD
[23:40] <Foxhoudnz> No I'm not. But here's the question
[23:40] <Foxhoudnz> I'm trying to install Ubuntu Server via USB
[23:40] <Foxhoudnz> but I get the CDROM not found error
[23:41] <Foxhoudnz> I mounted /dev/sdb to /cdrom
[23:41] <daftykins> download corrupt or drive badly made up
[23:41] <Foxhoudnz> but still no workie
[23:41] <petrvs> Foxhoudnz: how'd you image your usb?
[23:41] <Foxhoudnz> Using LiLi USB Creator for Windows
[23:41] <daftykins> use UUI from pendrivelinux.com
[23:41] <bprompt> hmm
[23:42] <petrvs> I'd go with http://unetbootin.sf.net/
[23:42] <Foxhoudnz> CTCP <>.<>
[23:42] <gr33n7007h> or win32diskimager never fails
[23:42] <Foxhoudnz> ok
[23:42] <Foxhoudnz> win32disk imager it is
[23:43] <Sbur> petrvs: Thx. But I mean even an empty Blu Ray to back up my computer, for example
[23:43] <gr33n7007h> it's sort of like gui dd for windows
[23:43] <Sbur> petrvs: Though there is a blank Blu Ray in the drive, but it doesn't show up in file manager
[23:44] <daftykins> optical media for backup :(
[23:44] <petrvs> ^
[23:46] <Foxhoudnz> ~_~
[23:46] <linuxuz3r> xD
[23:47] <Foxhoudnz> It's a great day in the world when my internet downloads an ubuntu iso faster than win32disk imager writes it to my USB
[23:49] <linuxuz3r> ubuntu is so awesome
[23:49] <daftykins> sign of a rubbish flash drive that
[23:49] <petrvs> or a poor writing method
[23:50] <gioankminh> hello
[23:50] <linuxuz3r> hi gioankminh
[23:51] <linuxuz3r> its quiet inhear
[23:51] <linuxuz3r> here
[23:51] <daftykins> it's a support channel.
[23:52] <jeffreylevesque> anyone know how to unzip a ZIP as a different name
[23:52] <petrvs> jeffreylevesque: -d
[23:52] <daftykins> questions only - chat in #ubuntu-offtopic
[23:52] <petrvs> it's an IRC phenomena
[23:52] <petrvs> people think a lack of chatting means nobody is there to support them
[23:52] <petrvs> phenomenon*
[23:53] <petrvs> snowball effect sorta thing
[23:55] <lolzballs> Hey everyone, I'm having an issue with openjdk-7-jre
[23:55] <lolzballs> I'm unable to launch .jars with a double click in nautilus
[23:56] <lolzballs> A few weeks ago, the changlelog had "Only install the openjdk-java.desktop file when using cautious-launcher."
[23:56] <petrvs> lolzballs: right click on a .jar file in nautilus, properties
[23:56] <lolzballs> petrvs: It's set as executable
[23:57] <petrvs> what is it set to open with
[23:57] <lolzballs> archive manager
[23:57] <lolzballs> but the jre isn't in the list
[23:57] <lolzballs> because the .desktop file is no longer there
[23:57] <petrvs> so naturally it wouldn't run as an executable
[23:57] <gr33n7007h> lolzballs: open it from terminal
[23:58] <petrvs> http://askubuntu.com/questions/192914/how-run-a-jar-file-with-a-double-click
[23:58] <lolzballs> gr33n7007h: it's quite annoying to have to open up a terminal every time I want to run it
[23:58] <lolzballs> petrvs: the jre isn't in the list
[23:59] <lolzballs> i think this is caused by, as i said, the .desktop file being removed
[23:59] <petrvs> there's a solution for that situation at the link provided, too
[23:59] <mrcheeks> lolzballs:Try again what petrvs told you... Just associate in nautilus or the file manager that you're using java
|
ubuntu-chat
|
2024-05-13T22:11:15.408183
| 2015-04-26T00:00:00 |
{
"license": "Public Domain",
"authors": [
"Adran",
"AdvoWork",
"Alexandrov",
"Andy_MCO",
"Ava",
"Bashing-om",
"Ben64",
"BluesKaj",
"Bolivar1",
"CUCHO",
"Captonjamason",
"CereS2009",
"Chuck_Norris",
"Craigwell",
"CryptoSiD",
"Cuken",
"DJones",
"DrDroid",
"DukeDrake",
"Dumle29",
"Duratech",
"EriC^^",
"Foxhoudnz",
"Goose_",
"Guest-en",
"Guest30604",
"Guest36387",
"Guest36941",
"Guest40720",
"Guest51416",
"Guest95588",
"Guido1",
"Hailwood",
"Happy_Larry",
"HerroWorlds",
"Jack64",
"Johnny_Linux",
"Kartagis",
"Knight80",
"Komanda",
"Krenair|phone",
"LTS14N00b",
"Lb2",
"Ljango",
"ManicMiner",
"MichaelHabib1",
"MichaelTiebesl",
"Mion",
"Miriam",
"MonkehParade",
"MonkeyDust",
"Nibbler",
"NicholasC",
"OOzed",
"OerHeks",
"Okitain",
"PC-2011",
"R13ose1",
"Rand0m`",
"ReGiStRaS",
"RedOrangeZ",
"Riddell",
"SaucisseCocktail",
"Sbur",
"SchrodingersScat",
"Seveas",
"Sheepolution",
"Shurtagul",
"Stifler",
"TLF",
"TandyUK",
"ThatNewGuy",
"TiK",
"Tin_man",
"Tinkerer",
"Tuggy",
"UndefinedNaN",
"VonGuardian",
"Webonaute",
"Wugbom",
"YouCantGetRidOfM",
"ZeZu",
"Zephyr1138",
"Zerkalerka",
"[n0mad]",
"\\\\Mr_C\\\\",
"__dan_",
"_war10ck_",
"action09",
"aeon-ltd",
"aladiah",
"alazyworkaholic",
"alkisg",
"allstarsnorks2",
"ani",
"arcsky",
"astroduck",
"azizLIGHT",
"backbox",
"barack_obama",
"barry65576354",
"basso",
"bazhang",
"bekks",
"bish-OP",
"blackgatonegro",
"bnmvda",
"bprompt",
"brainwash",
"bullicon",
"c0mrad3",
"c_korn",
"cantinajim",
"catalin",
"cfhowlett",
"charlie_sanders",
"chotaz",
"cihhan",
"cmosguy",
"codephobic",
"cow-boy",
"cristian",
"crumpr",
"cyberman",
"daftykins",
"darkad",
"darthanubis",
"demo",
"digitsm",
"dlam",
"dreamon",
"droid909",
"dsad",
"dyrnade",
"edgardoanaya",
"eikon81g",
"erica647",
"escargotdu25",
"esph",
"excelsiora",
"expose",
"f3f33",
"fanno",
"fate_",
"faultyjohn",
"faust",
"fcarbogn",
"fossterer",
"frecel",
"freddie76",
"gagalicious",
"gayfag",
"genii",
"geosmin2",
"geri",
"gioankminh",
"gmathe",
"gr33n7007h",
"groggemans",
"gtrf",
"guest345968",
"harris",
"harushimo",
"hiexpo",
"houyi",
"houyi_",
"hugo",
"ilk",
"ioria",
"jason__",
"jasonwhite",
"javieru",
"jeffreylevesque",
"joey_",
"jophish",
"joshh20",
"jun",
"k1l",
"k_sze",
"k_sze_",
"kavin",
"keltim",
"ki7mt",
"ki7rw",
"kingbeowolf",
"knojoko",
"kostkon",
"lighta",
"linuxuz3r",
"lolzballs",
"lonixlon",
"lotuspsychje",
"mac33",
"malgorath",
"mantys89",
"marianne",
"maslen",
"maslen1",
"mauritslamers",
"melancholycalkin",
"mguy",
"mike_papa",
"mjollnerd",
"mpthrapp",
"mrcheeks",
"muh2000",
"nahtnam",
"neonthewolf",
"newuser789",
"nfk",
"nicomachus",
"niek",
"nightfuri",
"nith1210",
"njjewers",
"no_gravity",
"noidea",
"nrdb",
"nyavek",
"oats",
"oiu",
"orazio",
"orion_",
"p5yc071c",
"pavlos",
"peterrooney",
"petrvs",
"pferg",
"phix__",
"poee",
"q_",
"quidnunc",
"rahulprodev",
"ravigehlot",
"rbrt5",
"rishianand",
"rking",
"rockstar_",
"rooly",
"sai",
"samfreenode",
"scatterp",
"sd1001",
"sherwaldo",
"siegfried",
"sjors_",
"skender",
"splitwire",
"spoown",
"studybox",
"superboot",
"superprower",
"surodimerto",
"susana",
"tarelerulz_",
"teward",
"tgm4883",
"thiebaude",
"tomasm-",
"tomreyn",
"trijntje",
"tsoutseki_",
"tuv0k",
"ubguy",
"ubuntu-mate",
"ubuntu_user",
"ubuntuser13",
"ugurkoltuk",
"underzen",
"urielsalis",
"usr13",
"viart_p",
"wiki",
"wilrnh",
"work_alkisg",
"xangua",
"xavii",
"xhp",
"xzcvczx",
"yousir",
"z0ran"
],
"url": "https://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2015/04/26/%23ubuntu.txt",
"channel": "#ubuntu"
}
|
2015-04-26-#ubuntu-cn
|
[00:00] <^k^> 新 课堂教学和培训 • 怎么限制小孩上wifi，不限制大人连接 http://forum.ubuntu.org.cn/viewtopic.php?t=469822 亲戚家电视机顶盒，带无线WiFi功能，有个五六年级的小女孩，家长给买了个平板，整天拿在手里想着开WiFi上网，一旦连接上就会保存，一改密码家里四五个人手机要改密码，而且过不了多
[00:00] <^k^> ─> 久，小孩就会想方设法得到密码，平板拿不走，求科学的方法 zz: TeliuTe — 2015-04-26 3:12
[01:58] <^k^> 新 Ubuntu 15.10 • 14.10升级到15.04 Nvidia显卡问题 http://forum.ubuntu.org.cn/viewtopic.php?t=469823 两台笔记本acer e1-471g 和 hp 242g1 都是Hd4000和nvidia primus双显卡 14.10升级到15.04后，驱动是ubuntu安装的私有驱动nvidia340.76，nvidia-settings是开启nvidia显卡的，发现比以前14.10是稳定了，不会时不时画面卡住。 现
[01:58] <^k^> ─> 第三台笔记本hp 242g1，14.10升级到15.04后，驱动是ubuntu安装的私有驱动nvidia340.76，单因为升 …
[02:03] <kandu> hoxily_: 早 ^_^
[02:23] <taozhijiang> 请问linux下怎么看电脑的内存时序啊
[02:26] <q_> 请问这个问题有人遇到过吗?这个搞不定啊. .求助 .
[02:26] <q_> E: brltty: 子进程 已安装 post-installation 脚本 返回了错误号 1
[02:45] * QiongMangHuo 撒花, Debian 8发布啦!
[02:49] <kandu> QiongMangHuo: 哼哼，你这 sid 党凑什么热闹
[02:50] <QiongMangHuo> kandu: 比如说debian的installer现在可以支持我的btrfs了, 方便rescue
[02:51] <kandu> QiongMangHuo: 赞~
[02:56] <QiongMangHuo> kandu: 而且我的Sid终于不会跟着freeze了 555
[02:56] <kandu> QiongMangHuo: 我打算继续用 wheezy
[02:57] <QiongMangHuo> kandu: 为啥子啊?
[02:57] <kandu> QiongMangHuo: old stable 党
[03:16] <Ljango> 有人么
[03:16] <^k^> Ljango:点点点. 11:17
[03:17] <Ljango> …
[03:24] <Ljango> 没有人气
[03:35] <^k^> 新 初学者园地 - 15.04 • 报警了。。有一批以连字符开头的文件求重命名 http://forum.ubuntu.org.cn/viewtopic.php?t=469825 文件名叫"-01 - test" Code: mv "-01 - test" "01 test" mv: invalid option -- '0' Try 'mv --help' for more information. 不要吐槽这波文件了。。历史遗留问题。。 zz: PithornDawn — 2015-04-26 11:32
[04:04] <luobo> 最近有谁编译gcc5.1
[04:04] <luobo> 了吗？
[04:04] <luobo> 我的问题还没解决
[04:05] <luobo> 显示是出错
[04:05] <luobo> cc1出错
[04:06] <luobo> 到的问题，说cc1的问题，但是我没找到好的解决办法
[04:06] <luobo> [22:40] [luobo(+i)] [2:freenode/#chinalug(+cn)]
[04:06] <luobo> [#chinalug]
[04:07] <luobo> http://p2.lxd.cc/uploads/2015/04/图片1(3).png
[04:08] <luobo> 这时出错的图片
[04:08] <^k^> 新 初学者园地 - 15.04 • 关于ubuntu存在NTFS区的文件在window8上不可见的问题 http://forum.ubuntu.org.cn/viewtopic.php?t=469826 X240笔记本，装了15.04和windows8（机器自带），在ubuntu上往NTFS的D盘新建了文件夹，并存了文件。进入windows之后，d盘ubuntu下创建的文件不可见，重新进入Ubuntu后可以看见在window
[04:23] <^k^> 新 Wubi安装讨论 • ubuntu15.04中的wubi.exe竟然还是14.10所用的，想在WIN生成个GRUB2引导也不行 http://forum.ubuntu.org.cn/viewtopic.php?t=469828 wubi.exe不让安装也罢，现在想进dome 模式看看桌面也不行了。。。。哎 zz: drc1234 — 2015-04-26 12:21
[04:39] <houyi> 有人？
[04:40] <houyi> ...
[04:40] <houyi> 亲爱地！说中文的朋友！
[04:46] <archl> houyi, 能不能说别的，要不是我心情好，才懒得理你，想说什么快放
[04:47] <houyi> ...
[04:47] <houyi> 感谢回复
[04:49] <luobo> 哈哈
[04:51] <luobo> 竟然是上海的ip
[05:48] <^k^> 暂无新帖 讲个笑话吧: 见阎王爷 : 一病人:我失眠。 医生:这药丸红色让你梦到德华；白色梦到阿伦；绿色梦到润发。 病人:那全吃下去? 医生:可见阎王爷。
[05:53] <^k^> 新 服务器基础应用 • 安装15.04版本的服务器后为什么输入不了密码？ http://forum.ubuntu.org.cn/viewtopic.php?t=469829 本人首次安装服务器版本，昨天本人下载了最新的15.04服务器版本，设置了用户名、密码后。后来安装好后无法输入密码。在输入用户名后，无法输入密码，密码一行根本输入不
[05:53] <^k^> ─> 了任何东西，感觉像是被远程控制了。希望高手指教。 zz: hulong306 — 2015-04-26 13:22
[06:21] <archl> 如果你想一天喝一瓶酒，你会选择什么酒？
[06:23] <^k^> 新 网卡问题以及网络和拨号 • gnome-15.04-desktop-amd64 DSL PPPoe拨号无效，请提供个pppoe安装包吧 http://forum.ubuntu.org.cn/viewtopic.php?t=469830 networkmanager 不支持DSL拨号了？？？ T3.jpg zz: drc1234 — 2015-04-26 14:23
[06:31] <^k^> 新 Ubuntu GNOME • gnome-15.04 DSL能设置却无法PPPoe拨号成功 http://forum.ubuntu.org.cn/viewtopic.php?t=469831 zz: drc1234 — 2015-04-26 14:31
[06:46] <^k^> 新 桌面特效 • ubuntu gnome 15.04 版本为 3.15.91 有特效了，大伙测试享受 http://forum.ubuntu.org.cn/viewtopic.php?t=469832 下载 http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-gnome/ ... 4/release/ 就是ADSL拨号不行。。。。 zz: drc1234 — 2015-04-26 14:45
[07:01] <eexpss> imtxc 呢
[07:10] <^k^> 新 Shell脚本 • makefile 遇到问题了，请指教 http://forum.ubuntu.org.cn/viewtopic.php?t=469833 源程序： main.c #include <stdio.h> #include <stdlib.h> void main() { printf("start from zero\n"); } makefile 语句如下： obj=main.o main: gcc $(obj) -o main main.o: gcc -c main.c clean: rm *.o 出现的错误是： gcc main.o -o main gcc: 错误： main.o：没
[07:13] <^k^> 新 游戏和游戏模拟器 • [bug]steam的linux版2015年4月13更新，改了steamapps的大小写 http://forum.ubuntu.org.cn/viewtopic.php?t=469834 [bug]steam的linux版2015年4月13更新，改了steamapps的大小写 这个bug还是挺差劲的。 在/home/你的名字/.steam下倒是没改，还是SteamApps。但是如果你加入其他的路径。比如/media/你的
[07:13] <^k^> ─> 名字/xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxxx/ 之下。建立一个有足够权限比如读写、读写、只读权 …
[08:16] <^k^> 新 初学者园地 - 15.04 • 求助：求小白可用的离线安装应用方法 http://forum.ubuntu.org.cn/viewtopic.php?t=469835 一直听人传说Linux，:em11折腾了几天 ，终于在工作机（不能联网）上装了一个Ubuntu14.04lts，:em20 然而安装应用却成了大问题 。 请问有没有便于小白使用的离线安装应用的方法？ 谢谢！
[08:16] <^k^> ─> zz: LH超 — 2015-04-26 16:15
[09:22] <sennn> hi
[09:22] <^k^> sennn:点点点. 17:22
[09:30] <gebjgd> sennn, 大牛好
[09:32] <sennn> gebjgd, 你好
[09:33] <gebjgd> sennn, 跨省几个了？
[09:36] <sennn> gebjgd, 什麼意思?
[09:50] <^k^> 暂无新帖 讲个笑话吧: http://xiaohua.zol.com.cn/detail1/33335.html 藏煤 : 父亲喝道:你为什么把煤埋在地下? 儿子很担心地道:先生说过的,再过50年,世界上的煤要没有了。
[09:54] <jusss> gebjgd: bla
[10:07] <sennn> 今天真熱
[10:17] <archl> sennn,不知道什么时候才不热了。
[10:37] <one5tep> ubuntu下CAD软件哪个好？？
[12:19] <jusss> morgan的freenode竟然挂了!
[12:24] <jusss> onlylove: 我在威信上找到l5e了
[12:24] <onlylove> jusss: 找到就找到吧，怎么了
[12:26] <jusss> onlylove: 然后我提议通过扣扣远程协助帮她回来,然后被她以太复杂了拒绝了, what a pity and how sad!
[12:26] <onlylove> jusss: 你和她还不够好
[12:27] <jusss> onlylove: 你说的对
[12:34] <jusss> onlylove: 明天我去新公司入职
[12:39] <alvin_rxg> jusss: contratz
[12:39] <alvin_rxg> *congratz
[12:41] <jusss> alvin_rxg: thanks
[12:42] <jusss> alvin_rxg: 你什么时候毕业
[12:43] <^k^> 取新帖 timeout
[12:46] <jusss> alvin_rxg: 在看这个 http://norvig.com/lispy.html
[12:47] <jusss> alvin_rxg: 有点不明白为什么把(begin (xxx ...))变成列表成 [ 'begin', [ 'xxx' ...]] ?
[12:48] <jusss> 先把字串拆开变成token变成列表,然后在操作
[12:49] <hoxily> 变成列表？
[12:50] <hoxily> (begin (xxx ...))变成列表成 [ 'begin', [ 'xxx' ...]] 不正是直接的翻译么？
[12:50] <jusss> 把字串拆成token放列表
[12:50] <jusss> 有别的翻译吗?
[12:50] <jusss> 变成这样,然后求值时第一个求值 ] 结尾的那个?
[12:51] <onlylove> happyaro1: 名字搞啥呢，有没有便宜点的无线猫推荐
[12:52] <jusss> hoxily: 把字串变成列表然后分析求值,你写这类的东东没?
[12:53] <jusss> 一个parser
[13:07] <jusss> hoxily: 怎么加载一个脚本进repl ?
[13:07] <hoxily> python?
[13:21] <jusss> 查到了,加参数-i 或execfile()
[14:19] <gfxmode> 电视机看网络直播 使用了一下 还不错 就是有时候会卡顿
[14:25] <gebjgd> gfxmode, 现在随便一个上网盒子
[14:26] <^k^> 新 初学者园地 - 15.04 • Ubuntu强制重启后，风扇不转了，但root登陆后就又转了 http://forum.ubuntu.org.cn/viewtopic.php?t=469837 以前在网页上看视频的时候，cpu热了风扇会自动转起来 自从上次我强制重启Ubuntu后，风扇就不转了，cpu能感觉到非常热了，还是不转 这时候切换到root登陆后，风扇就又会
[14:26] <^k^> ─> 自动转起来 请教各位朋友，这个是什么问题，怎么解决啊？ 我用的是ThinkPad E420 Ubuntu14. …
[14:30] <gfxmode> gebjgd: 嗯 盒子对电视机升级来说代价小。
[14:36] <jusss> hoxily: https://github.com/jusss/code/blob/bla2/python/lisp2html.py
[14:36] <^k^> ⇪ ti: code/lisp2html.py at bla2 · jusss/code · GitHub
[14:36] <^k^> 新 系统安装和升级 • 【咨询】Linux系统完全备份和还原 http://forum.ubuntu.org.cn/viewtopic.php?t=469838 特别说明：网上很多讲的就是硬盘克隆。但我要问的不是克隆，是备份，还原到另外一台新的硬盘上。硬盘大小是不一样的。 问题起因：公司有一台RedHat 6.2 SERVER，里面安装了财务数据库和WE
[14:37] <jusss> https://github.com/jusss/code/blob/bla2/python/lisp2html.py
[14:40] <jussss> 起个名字真费劲
[14:43] <jusss> hoxily: 看看有啥改的
[14:44] <hoxily> jusss: 明天再看，然后告诉你
[14:44] <jusss> hoxily: 嗯
[14:56] <^k^> 新 Wubi安装讨论 • 偷梁换柱大法Wubi进ubuntu-gnome-15.04-desktop-amd64.iso之livecd http://forum.ubuntu.org.cn/viewtopic.php?t=469839 下载个ubuntu-gnome-15.04-desktop-amd64.iso，想wubi安装进Demo mode看看桌面，哪知iso中的wubi.exe只适用14.10，运行报错，生成不了grub2引导文件 技术笨。只好再下载ubuntu-14.10-desktop-amd64.iso
[14:56] <^k^> ─> ，wubi.exe安装一遍， 安装环境win7 win8.1 32位，mbr，生成ubuntu文件夹及引导 进入x:\ubuntu\insta …
[17:28] <gebjgd> cleamoon_, 最近在干嘛
[17:28] <gebjgd> alvin_rxg, 最近如何
[19:39] <alvin_rxg> gebjgd: 没啥事
[20:13] <cleamoon_> gebjgd, 在上学......
[20:23] <gebjgd> alvin_rxg, 有面试了么
[20:23] <gebjgd> cleamoon_, 没有交女友？
[20:24] <cleamoon_> gebjgd, 被甩了
[20:24] <gebjgd> cleamoon_, 厉害
[20:24] <cleamoon_> ......
[20:24] <cleamoon_> gebjgd, 现充爆炸
[20:24] <cleamoon_> 你老婆怎么找到的？
[20:25] <gebjgd> cleamoon_, qq
[20:25] <cleamoon_> .......
[20:26] <cleamoon_> 你确定？
[20:26] <cleamoon_> 是异地恋还是本身就在德国？
[20:27] <cleamoon_> gebjgd, 难道是老同学之类的？
[20:29] <gebjgd> cleamoon_, 网友
[20:29] <cleamoon_> gebjgd, 竟然有这好事...
[20:30] <cleamoon_> gebjgd, 现充是多大结婚的？
[20:44] <gebjgd> cleamoon_, 现充是什么
[20:46] <cleamoon_> gebjgd, 现实生活充实的人，相对于死宅
[20:47] <gebjgd> cleamoon_, 超强 25岁同居 27岁结婚的
[20:48] <cleamoon_> geshit，我24岁被甩的...
[20:48] <cleamoon_> gebjgd, shit，我24岁被甩的...
[20:48] <cleamoon_> 打错了...
[20:50] <alvin_rxg> 好羡慕啊，我刚把人甩了
[20:51] <cleamoon_> ................
[20:51] <cleamoon_> 肉馅怪没结婚？
[20:52] <alvin_rxg> 一边心安理得的拿着你的钱，一边又打死都不跟你上床的，趁早甩了
[20:53] <cleamoon_> 为什么要给钱，又没结婚...
[20:53] <alvin_rxg> 穷呗
[20:53] <cleamoon_> 你还在德国？
[20:53] <cleamoon_> ...
[20:58] <alvin_rxg> 在找工作呢
[20:59] <gebjgd> alvin_rxg, 你甩了谁？
[21:00] <gebjgd> alvin_rxg, 有面试了么
[21:00] <alvin_rxg> gebjgd: 甩了杭州姑娘
[21:00] <alvin_rxg> gebjgd: 还没，拒信倒是一堆
[21:00] <alvin_rxg> gebjgd: 刚开始就投 200人以上的公司，希望不大啊。。
[21:00] <gebjgd> alvin_rxg, 小公司也不能放弃啊
[21:00] <gebjgd> alvin_rxg, 给就上
[21:01] <alvin_rxg> gebjgd: 小公司太多一年合同了，我想要两年的。。
[21:01] <gebjgd> alvin_rxg, 哪个杭州姑娘？
[21:01] <gebjgd> alvin_rxg, 一年合同？
[21:01] <alvin_rxg> gebjgd: 杭州就一个
[21:01] <alvin_rxg> gebjgd: 是的，招聘信息里边，很多都有写的
[21:01] <gebjgd> alvin_rxg, 我怎么从来没遇到过每年签合同的
[21:01] <alvin_rxg> ö.ö
[21:02] <gebjgd> alvin_rxg, 我2个都是无限期合同
[21:02] <alvin_rxg> 那给就上……
[21:02] <alvin_rxg> gebjgd: 教授让我投了 vw, cenit... 都是大公司
[21:02] <gebjgd> alvin_rxg, 你们教授够狠
[21:03] <cleamoon_> 教授还管这个
[21:03] <gebjgd> alvin_rxg, 买了个新显卡 r9 270x
[21:03] <alvin_rxg> gebjgd: 因为带上了教授的名号，所以那边都说收到消息了，然后暂时没下文。其他的都是拒信
[21:03] <gebjgd> alvin_rxg, *ubuntu上的表现相当不错
[21:03] <alvin_rxg> gebjgd: 我现在俩显示器，就这样。
[21:03] <gebjgd> alvin_rxg, 不错啊 我当时都是自己找的 没有教授的推荐
[21:04] <gebjgd> alvin_rxg, 我也是2个显示器 不过没啥用
[21:04] <gebjgd> alvin_rxg, 正在wine gta3和gta sa
[21:04] <alvin_rxg> gebjgd: 一个大的也行，主要一个笔记本的显示器太小了，android写代码的时候经常切换窗口
[21:05] <gebjgd> alvin_rxg, 我在家不写代码 就看电影和游戏
[21:05] <gebjgd> alvin_rxg, 你去公司的话 基本上都是3屏 2台机器
[21:05] <alvin_rxg> 我现在没事干，就随便写点东西
[21:06] <gebjgd> alvin_rxg, a卡在Linux上的表现还是不错的 我越来越爱amd了
[21:06] <alvin_rxg> 一般般吧
[21:07] <gebjgd> alvin_rxg, 反正我是不爱n卡
[21:07] <cleamoon_> 我入了个asus t100ta，还不错
[21:07] <alvin_rxg> 反正笔记本双显卡不适合 linux
[21:08] <gebjgd> alvin_rxg, 笔记本要什么双显卡 找麻烦
[21:08] <gebjgd> alvin_rxg, 游戏必须台式机
[21:08] <alvin_rxg> ...
[21:11] <cleamoon_> 笔记本还是方便
[21:11] <cleamoon_> 就是慢
[21:11] <gebjgd> cleamoon_, 家里必须有台台式机了
[21:16] <cleamoon_> gebjgd, 没钱呀
[21:16] <cleamoon_> gebjgd, 不过家里的台式机一般做什么
[21:16] <gebjgd> cleamoon_, 游戏
[21:18] <cleamoon_> .....
[21:18] <cleamoon_> gebjgd, 买台ps4多好
[21:23] <gebjgd> cleamoon_, 不爱console
[21:24] <cleamoon_> gebjgd, ps4的游戏平均而言比pc好，不过这是喜好问题
[21:24] <cleamoon_> gebjgd, 话说你玩什么需要那么好电脑...
[21:27] <gebjgd> cleamoon_, 从来不爱console
[21:27] <gebjgd> cleamoon_, dota2
[21:35] <gebjgd> cleamoon_, gta系列 wine的话直接白金等级的
[21:35] <cleamoon_> dota2用不着那么高级吧... 如果不是全特效的话...
[21:35] <cleamoon_> ......
[21:35] <cleamoon_> wine呀
[21:35] <gebjgd> cleamoon_, 必须全特效
[21:35] <cleamoon_> .....
[21:35] <gebjgd> cleamoon_, 是啊
[21:35] <cleamoon_> 土豪
[21:35] <gebjgd> cleamoon_, 土豪什么 我同事直接350欧的显卡 gta5
[21:36] <gebjgd> cleamoon_, 当然他用win
[21:36] <gebjgd> cleamoon_, wine现在很牛逼了
[21:38] <cleamoon_> 我觉得那只是烧钱...
[21:38] <cleamoon_> 我还在玩gba游戏呢
[21:39] <gebjgd> cleamoon_, 赞 gta sa的效果就相当牛逼了
[21:39] <gebjgd> cleamoon_, 我有archos gamepad 2
[21:39] <gebjgd> cleamoon_, android平板带手柄 直接模拟器
[21:41] <cleamoon_> android感觉工作娱乐都有点鸡肋
[21:44] <gebjgd> cleamoon_, 没觉得啊
[21:44] <gebjgd> cleamoon_, android的模拟器相当给力 什么gba fc sfc md 随便上
[22:18] <cleamoon_> gebjgd, 就是各种地方觉得别扭，不过android毕竟不是工作级os...
[22:23] <gebjgd> cleamoon_, 什么叫工作级os
[22:24] <gebjgd> cleamoon_, win更不是
[22:24] <gebjgd> cleamoon_, ios也不是
[22:24] <gebjgd> cleamoon_, 但是你让它们工作 一样可以
[22:24] * gebjgd 睡觉
[22:29] <kandu> hoxily: 早
[22:40] <hoxily> kandu: 早上好。
[22:42] <kandu> hoxily: 最近有没有鼓捣 ocaml 啊?
[22:43] <hoxily> kandu: 没有。
[22:44] <kandu> hoxily: 最近玩什么技术或语言呢？
[22:45] <hoxily> kandu: mozilla的rust语言，
[22:45] <kandu> hoxily: 赞!
[22:46] <hoxily> kandu: 加了这个 http://rust.cc/ 中文社区的QQ群，看他们扯淡。
[22:46] <^k^> hoxily: ⇪ 分类 - Rust中文社区(rust.cc)
|
ubuntu-chat
|
2024-05-13T22:11:15.444995
| 2015-04-26T00:00:00 |
{
"license": "Public Domain",
"authors": [
"Ljango",
"QiongMangHuo",
"^k^",
"alvin_rxg",
"archl",
"cleamoon_",
"eexpss",
"gebjgd",
"gfxmode",
"houyi",
"hoxily",
"jusss",
"jussss",
"kandu",
"luobo",
"one5tep",
"onlylove",
"q_",
"sennn",
"taozhijiang"
],
"url": "https://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2015/04/26/%23ubuntu-cn.txt",
"channel": "#ubuntu-cn"
}
|
2015-04-26-#ubuntu-app-devel
|
[02:51] <harsh0707051> Hi
[02:53] <harsh0707051> I am getting following warning: :-1: warning: desktop_Exec (TestApp): found unexpected Exec with architecture 'all': ./qtc_device_debughelper.py
[02:54] <harsh0707051> = systemd = { "error": {}, "info": { "snappy-systemd_peer_hooks_disallowed_with_snappy-systemd": { "manual_review": false, "text": "OK" }, "snappy-systemd_peer_hooks_required_snappy-systemd": { "manual_review": false, "text": "OK" } }, "warn": {} } = url_dispatcher = { "error": {}, "info": { "url_dispatcher_peer_hooks_disallowed_with_urls": { "manual_revie
[02:55] <harsh0707051> And following is error
[02:55] <harsh0707051> :-1: error: security_policy_version_matches_framework (TestApp.apparmor): Invalid framework 'ubuntu-sdk-15.04'
[02:55] <harsh0707051> can anyone tell me how to resolve it?
[02:56] <harsh0707051> this is debug log:
[02:56] <harsh0707051> Debug-helper> Setting up environment Debug-helper> TmpDir: /home/phablet/.local/share/ubuntutestapp.saurabhnemade/ Debug-helper> AppId: ubuntutestapp.saurabhnemade_TestApp_0.1 Debug-helper> Environment: confined Debug-helper> Environment initialized, starting the application Debug-helper> Executing /usr/bin/ubuntu-html5-app-launcher['/usr/bin/ubuntu-html5-app-launcher', '$@', '--www=www', '--inspector'] Tr
[02:57] <harsh0707051> Traceback (most recent call last): File "./qtc_device_debughelper.py", line 155, in <module> os.execv(effective_cmd,args) PermissionError: [Errno 13] Permission denied Error in sys.excepthook: Traceback (most recent call last):
[02:58] <harsh0707051> Original exception was: Traceback (most recent call last): File "./qtc_device_debughelper.py", line 155, in <module> os.execv(effective_cmd,args) PermissionError: [Errno 13] Permission denied
[04:56] <peterMX> where can I find a book about ubuntu sdk??? someone know?
[12:01] <parnstermia> Hi i was wondering if anyone can guide me of what i have to do or learn to build a simple visual interface for a c++ application
[14:44] <ahayzen> popey, should there be a session for weather here or do we know enough about what we are doing? http://summit.ubuntu.com/uos-1505/all/
[16:44] <ahayzen> t1mp, ping
[17:20] <dkessel> on vivid - i am having trouble getting the ubuntu sdk to recognize my emulator (which i created with the SDK itself). it gets stuck while trying to detect the device: http://i.imgur.com/3dkf8kx.png
[17:20] <dkessel> i have completed the first use wizard
[17:28] <dkessel> does anybody know how to get around it?
[17:31] <DanChapman> dkessel are you able to create an emualtor from the CL with ubuntu-emulator create *?
[17:31] <dkessel> DanChapman: yes. and doing that gets me to the same result unfortunately :(
[17:32] <DanChapman> dkessel: you on vivid?
[17:32] <dkessel> DanChapman: yup
[17:36] <DanChapman> dkessel: hmmm let me see if i can get it to run. I havn't used an emulator in a while
[17:40] <dkessel> vitimiti: the backlog says you might have had the problem, too... could you fix it?
[17:40] <dkessel> i mean: were you able to?
[17:43] <dkessel> DanChapman: ^ and thanks. if it doesn't work for you, i will look for a bug or file one
[17:44] <vitimiti> dkessel, the 14.09 proposed one worked
[17:45] <dkessel> vitimiti: oh, ok thanks
[17:58] <DanChapman> dkessel: 14.09 proposed works for me. devel image adb says the device is offline and I can't seem to get it going. It runs for me just can't get QtCreator to pick it up
[17:59] <DanChapman> dkessel, in short 14.09 proposed seems to be the only functioning one atm
[17:59] <tek2> DanChapman, I just logged in here to ask a question that it seems you are in the middle of answering: was the question you're answering (I missed) about an emulator that starts but qt creator can't connect to?
[18:01] <DanChapman> tek2: good timing :-) yes the devel channel emaulator image seems to be broken. rtm-14.09-proposed works though.
[18:01] <dkessel> ok thanks DanChapman
[18:02] <tek2> DanChapman, cool, thanks for the tip. trying it right now!
[18:02] <dkessel> i am filing a bug. you guys can click "affects me" in a minute ;)
[18:04] <DanChapman> dkessel: sure thing. :-)
[18:08] <dkessel> meh, launchpad internal problems. will try again in a few minutes...
[18:13] <tek2> DanChapman, I just created an emu with the setting mentioned and it boots and shows properly in the Devices window. I can't seem to autogenerate a kit for it though. is there another way that you know of?
[18:13] <dkessel> bug 1448745 - DanChapman tek2 vitimiti , hit "affects me" if this affects you too....
[18:13] <tek2> dkessel, will d
[18:13] <tek2> do
[18:13] <dkessel> tek2: i used a kit with "14.10" in the dialog that pops up...
[18:14] <dkessel> there is also an option in "settings->ubuntu" for creating such a kit
[18:14] <tek2> ah, i think i picked 14.04 - that was prob the issue then
[18:14] <tek2> when i create a kit manually and try to run it, i always get the custom executable dialog showing up. how can i avoid that?
[18:40] <bzoltan_> dkessel: do you see the emulator from the terminal with adb devices?
[18:41] <vitimiti> dkessel, I'll check and decide
[18:41] <dkessel> bzoltan_: yes, but it was listed as "offline"
[18:42] <bzoltan_> dkessel: can you adb shell into it?
[18:42] <dkessel> bzoltan_: let me create it again and try...
[18:42] <bzoltan_> dkessel: if the device is offline and you can not connect to it from the terminal then the SDK has not much to do with this problem...it seems that the emulator image itself is busted
[18:44] <tek2> dkessel and DanChapman, just getting back here after getting this all working finally. thanks for your help!
[18:44] <dkessel> tek2: enjoy developing then :)
[18:48] <dkessel> bzoltan_: ok, so i have tried again and it is listed as "offline". i can change the package of the bug ... any recommendation?
[18:48] <bzoltan_> dkessel: before that would you confirm that the device is not available with adb shell?
[18:49] <dkessel> bzoltan_: adb shell says "error: device offline"
[18:50] <bzoltan_> dkessel: the closest package to this problem is the https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/goget-ubuntu-touch
[18:50] <bzoltan_> dkessel: right, that is the reason ... the emulator is simple not acessible. Sadly QtC can not help with it.
[18:51] <bzoltan_> dkessel: I will check it out tomorrow morning with the devs
[18:51] * bzoltan_ is in GMT+2
[18:51] <dkessel> bzoltan_: ok thanks :) me too
[18:57] <mivoligo> mhall119: ping
[21:22] <zyrox> Hi, I'm trying to create a hello world app on 15.04 but the i386 emulator keeps crashing my entire system when the welcome screen show up. Anyone have any suggestions?
[22:10] <zyrox> Installing the proprietary nvidia driver and starting the emulator from terminal seems to work better
[23:54] <tk> dont suppose this is the place to ask about all snappy isssues or just app dev?
|
ubuntu-chat
|
2024-05-13T22:11:15.463349
| 2015-04-26T00:00:00 |
{
"license": "Public Domain",
"authors": [
"DanChapman",
"ahayzen",
"bzoltan_",
"dkessel",
"harsh0707051",
"mivoligo",
"parnstermia",
"peterMX",
"tek2",
"tk",
"vitimiti",
"zyrox"
],
"url": "https://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2015/04/26/%23ubuntu-app-devel.txt",
"channel": "#ubuntu-app-devel"
}
|
2015-04-26-#ubuntu-devel
|
[08:42] <nucc1> if you don't mind my asking, if I have installed libgpg-error with prefix /Users/fanen/gtk/inst/ and i'm trying to build libgcrypt, but it won't find libgpg-error even though I specified the same exact prefix
[08:43] <nucc1> how exactly am I supposed to specify install location with the : —with-libgpg-error-prefix argument for configure?
[09:42] <mpt> Apport is reporting an error in /usr/share/apport/apportcheckresume? Aw3some
[09:44] <mpt> Oh, it’s a KernelOops … So why does it give that as the path, then? Should be /usr/bin/linux or whatever
[10:02] <mpt> (Reported bug 1448635 for that)
[12:21] <irctc829> Has the name for 15.10 been announced yet?
[12:23] <mitya57> irctc829: no
[13:11] <irctc829> mitya57: thanks
[17:23] <rbasak> ScottK: thank you!
|
ubuntu-chat
|
2024-05-13T22:11:15.469090
| 2015-04-26T00:00:00 |
{
"license": "Public Domain",
"authors": [
"irctc829",
"mitya57",
"mpt",
"nucc1",
"rbasak"
],
"url": "https://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2015/04/26/%23ubuntu-devel.txt",
"channel": "#ubuntu-devel"
}
|
2015-04-26-#ubuntu-ops
|
[03:18] <NoCode> Hey I have a few questions about the bot, is there anyway I could ask them here?
|
ubuntu-chat
|
2024-05-13T22:11:15.470642
| 2015-04-26T00:00:00 |
{
"license": "Public Domain",
"authors": [
"NoCode"
],
"url": "https://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2015/04/26/%23ubuntu-ops.txt",
"channel": "#ubuntu-ops"
}
|
2015-04-26-#ubuntu-us-oh
|
[20:27] <thafreak> hey, does anyone know when OLF 2015 is? Like the dates?
[20:28] <Unit193> thafreak: Might be 11/13?
[20:29] <Unit193> Ah ,see you've asked.
[20:31] <thafreak> october 11-13 you think?
[23:16] <yano> whoa
[23:16] <yano> october?
[23:16] <yano> really?
[23:17] <Unit193> yano: Check scrollback there.
[23:21] <yano> ah
[23:42] <dzho> I've got at least a week of scrollback there and I don't see it
[23:43] <Unit193> They didn't finalize it.
[23:46] <dzho> yeah, I'm not seeing any discussion at all. is this the oftc #ohiolinux or have they moved to a different channel?
[23:46] <Unit193> That's the one.
[23:51] <Unit193> dzho: https://paste.unit193.net/?4fdcb476be89f4d0#2VIsTKwegL8Kf3D1mPPamark6hYHPl/ijWl8vWOnTqE= really sloppy grep.
[23:51] <jenni> [ ZeroBin ] - https://j.mp/1J1WxpE
[23:51] <dzho> ah, thanks.
[23:52] <dzho> Unit193: my backscroll only goes back to 4/14
[23:52] <dzho> so, that explains it
[23:52] <Unit193> Some of that was backscroll, some log.
[23:53] <dzho> yeah, I might have it in a log, now I know where to look.
[23:53] <Unit193> Meeting tonight should be too.
[23:53] <dzho> it's just funny for there to be so much conversation in such a short period of time and then ... nothing.
[23:54] <Unit193> Haha, yeah.
[23:56] <dzho> --- Log closed Mon Mar 03 18:51:56 2014
[23:56] <dzho> --- Log opened Mon Apr 13 11:18:42 2015
[23:57] <dzho> welp, nevermind
[23:57] <Unit193> You need help? :P
[23:57] <dzho> haha
[23:57] <Unit193> Though, don't think they'd like meeting logs passed on.
[23:58] <dzho> no, it's fine.
[23:59] <Unit193> A'ight.
[23:59] <Unit193> I didn't bother looking too closely though.
|
ubuntu-chat
|
2024-05-13T22:11:15.474372
| 2015-04-26T00:00:00 |
{
"license": "Public Domain",
"authors": [
"Unit193",
"dzho",
"jenni",
"thafreak",
"yano"
],
"url": "https://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2015/04/26/%23ubuntu-us-oh.txt",
"channel": "#ubuntu-us-oh"
}
|
2015-04-26-#launchpad
|
[18:10] <dkessel> i am having trouble filing a bug. the error page says the load balancer cannot connect to an application server. could this be caused by the planned outage for ppa.launchpad.net ?
[18:12] <dkessel> nevermind, trying a fourth time worked....
[21:39] <antivirtel> hello all! I'm trying to create my first PPA, but I have a bit special situation, so this won't help so much: https://help.launchpad.net/Packaging/SourceBuilds/GettingStarted#Packaging -- I have a Raspberry Pi Model B 128 MB RAM, and it has ARMv6l arch (usually it is armhf), but the LP compiler should have build the packages for ARMv7, so it is not compatible... Can I upload my own binaries, or even packages? Thanks!
[21:58] <cjwatson> antivirtel: No, I'm afraid that's not permitted. You'll need to use some other system for publishing packages; you could set up something like reprepro locally.
[21:59] <antivirtel> cjwatson but I want to make public on internet
[21:59] <cjwatson> antivirtel: Yes, Launchpad isn't the only solution for that, something like reprepro plus a web server can work too.
[22:00] <antivirtel> ahh this: https://mirrorer.alioth.debian.org/
[22:00] <cjwatson> I mean, in general we like people to use Launchpad but it's not going to be a good fit here.
[22:00] <antivirtel> ok, I'll check on it, if LP won't build a proper one
[22:02] <antivirtel> btw, it is just arm-linux-gnueabihf-g++-4.9 http://paste2.org/I1Hve3wz what I need... isn't it available cjwatson ?
[22:04] <wgrant> Ubuntu's arm-linux-gnueabihf is ARMv7.
[22:04] <wgrant> Even if you could build for ARMv6, Ubuntu's armhf library stack is all ARMv7.
[22:05] <antivirtel> wgrant but I have just ARMv6, and the armhf downloaded debs didn't work
[22:05] <wgrant> Right, Ubuntu does not run on ARMv6.
[22:05] <antivirtel> hmm... that's bad news, but thank you for the info...
[22:05] <wgrant> You'll ned ARMv7-capable hardware (eg. Raspberry Pi 2), or a distro other than Ubuntu.
[22:05] <wgrant> Theoriginal Raspberry Pi was seriously obsolete even at the time it was introduced.
[22:06] <wgrant> Ubuntu dropped support for ARMv6 years earlier.
[22:06] <antivirtel> I just need to distribute the binary, not to buy a new hardware that soon :)
[22:06] <antivirtel> sure it is, but it is just for hobby :) btw... isn't RPi 2 obsolete too?
[22:10] <antivirtel> wgrant ^
[22:12] <wgrant> RPi 2 has a relatively modern CPU that all modern distros can support..
[22:14] <antivirtel> and what about its memory, and others wgrant ? I'd really like to have USB 3.0 on that, but what about its internal speed?
[22:14] <antivirtel> I've an USB 3.0 ext. HDD since 2012, and I can barely use its real speed...
[22:15] <wgrant> The RPi 2's Ethernet and USB aren't ideal, but they're not a fundamental problem for ongoing software support.
[22:15] <wgrant> For actual use cases, sure.
[22:17] <wgrant> But the big problem with the original RPi was that its CPU supports only a very old instruction set, and if Ubuntu built for that there would be serious performance penalties on all modern devices. RPi 2 fixes that.
[22:18] <antivirtel> hmm.. great, but I'm planning to buy an other one only if it has USB 3.0.. what do you think of the internal speed of these devices, can it achive at least 1 Gb/s?
[22:20] <antivirtel> as I remember the peak is 5 Gb/s, but it is just a dream :D
[22:23] <wgrant> RPi 2 can't do 1Gbps on any of its external buses AFAIK.
[22:24] <antivirtel> that's what I was thought... but I meant, if it would have been packed with USB 3.0 wgrant
[23:15] <antivirtel> good night, you may HL me while I'm away!
[23:33] <FailBit> question: https://code.launchpad.net/~inkscape.dev/inkscape/trunk/ always shows a banner stating "An upgrade of this branch is in progress." and it never goes away - is this normal?
|
ubuntu-chat
|
2024-05-13T22:11:15.482392
| 2015-04-26T00:00:00 |
{
"license": "Public Domain",
"authors": [
"FailBit",
"antivirtel",
"cjwatson",
"dkessel",
"wgrant"
],
"url": "https://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2015/04/26/%23launchpad.txt",
"channel": "#launchpad"
}
|
2015-04-26-#kubuntu
|
[00:53] <jason_> Seems my screen freeze and other issues may have been multiple monitor issues.
[00:54] <jason_> Let it sit for a while and see how she handles.
[02:02] <reborn> hey?
[02:10] <darthanubis> http://pastebin.com/5v02NVQ0
[02:14] <sithlord48> does anyone know where the splash screens for are for plasma5 ?
[02:17] <darthanubis> lol
[02:17] <darthanubis> there are none ...yet
[02:19] <sithlord48> no where they are stored
[02:26] <reborn> knock knock, hello?
[02:27] <tuv0k> !ask
[02:27] <reborn> kubuntu 15.04 will work on amd sempron 3850 cpu?
[02:28] <sithlord48> try a live disc
[02:29] <reborn> okay, what's system requirement?
[02:29] <Shurtagul> Kubuntu keeps blanking to a blank color randomly and theres no way to recover. Its happening way more frequently too.. does anyone know a solution for this?
[02:30] <sithlord48> Shurtagul: check dmesg for errors.
[02:30] <Shurtagul> sithlord48: how do I do that
[02:31] <sithlord48> run dmesg in a konsole
[02:32] <sithlord48> reborn: im going to guess 512mb ram opengl 2 support
[02:32] <Shurtagul> I dont see anything that looks like an error
[02:33] <sithlord48> Shurtagul: you may also want to check you system logs in /var/log that should be more info filled
[02:35] <reborn> so stable?
[02:35] <tuv0k> mime-support broken for anyone else?
[02:36] <sithlord48> reborn: seams stable to me
[02:37] <reborn> ok
[02:37] <sithlord48> the biggest issues im having is finding the config dir for the splash screens
[02:41] <reborn> how it was going for screensaver to disable?
[02:42] <Shurtagul> I was really hoping it was a bug with plasma or something
[04:48] <mefisto> since upgrade to 15.04, several systray icons don't appear: knemo, dropbox, etc. Any solution to this? What's causing it?
[04:53] <hyper_ch> mefisto: bugs
[04:53] <hyper_ch> and people still believe in dropbox?
[04:54] <mefisto> hyper_ch: what is a more believable alternative?
[04:54] <hyper_ch> depend what you need
[04:55] <mefisto> hyper_ch: like dropbox, free, folder syncing
[04:55] <hyper_ch> rsync
[04:56] <mefisto> ??
[04:56] <hyper_ch> rsync syncs folders from a to b
[04:56] <mefisto> that's software, right? not really a service like dropbox
[04:57] <hyper_ch> dropbox also consists of software
[04:57] <mefisto> ok thanks
[04:57] <hyper_ch> then there's ownCloud and bittorrent sync
[04:57] <hyper_ch> and a lot of other tools
[04:58] <hyper_ch> but it all depends what you need... "folder syncing" doesn't say much
[04:58] <hyper_ch> do you want to share with others
[04:58] <hyper_ch> it's it syncing in both ways
[04:58] <hyper_ch> do you need a local copy at all, if not maybe sshfs or cifs over openvpn
[04:59] <hyper_ch> I just don't like my data be stored some place where I don't know what they do ;)
[05:00] <hyper_ch> but if you don't mind that and don't won't any hassle setting it up, then go with dropbox ;)
[05:34] <Zerkalerka> is there a keyboard shortcut by default to open konsole?
[05:37] <Zerkalerka> nope there isn't
[05:38] <Hairo> not exactly what you're looking for but krunner does the job
[05:40] <Zerkalerka> talking about alt+space?
[05:40] <Hairo> alt-f2
[05:40] <Hairo> *alt+f2
[05:40] <Zerkalerka> ahh thats what krunner is.. good to know.. yeah I was using that just getting tired of typing.. figured out a way to make meta+t open konsole now though.
[05:40] <Hairo> h
[05:40] <Zerkalerka> first time using KDE in years.. its..... beautiful lol
[05:40] <Hairo> same for me
[05:41] <Hairo> getting used to it
[05:41] <Zerkalerka> Yeah I as well.. its very customizable
[05:41] <Zerkalerka> I feel like I can customize it to feel like openbox very easily then just have the benefits of KDE along with it
[05:41] <pkulas> Just don't add beta ppa to upgrade plasma :D
[05:42] <Hairo> mmm
[05:42] <Hairo> is there an equivalent to ctrl+shift+u?
[05:43] <Hairo> for unide characters
[05:43] <Hairo> *unicode
[05:47] <Hairo> nvm
[05:47] <Hairo> got it
[07:44] <PhilippeP> 'morning
[08:25] <jiyuhen> Good Moorning
[09:20] <assurbanipal> hi,is there a way to get the system tray working with gtk apps?
[09:30] <ejay> assurbanipal, check out this http://blog.martin-graesslin.com/blog/2014/06/where-are-my-systray-icons/
[09:31] <assurbanipal> ejay: i did but cannot figure out the solution!i installed the packages he suggests but still not working for me
[09:31] <ejay> systray is a mess right now so be prepared for some ass solutions
[09:32] <assurbanipal> ejay: is a MAJOR drawback...
[09:33] <MoonUnit`> did you try installing trayer?
[09:33] <ejay> it is not working for me either (except this wmsystemtray)
[09:33] <MoonUnit`> i prefer it over wmsystemtray
[09:33] <ejay> but it's ugly like holy hell
[09:33] <ejay> we need to wait till they repair/finish systray
[09:34] <assurbanipal> MoonUnit`: trayer at least displays the entries, but overlaps with the panel
[09:34] <MoonUnit`> if you type trayer --help you can see it has a lot of options.
[09:34] <MoonUnit`> you can move it where you want, how long/high and transparancy
[09:41] <pkulas> System Tray is a widget, so maybe is not that hard to make it work with gtk apps
[09:41] <pkulas> but I wonder how can I find source for it
[09:41] <assurbanipal> I made tray working , but looks ugly as hell
[09:43] <Avihay_work> is there a systray issue with 15.04?
[09:45] <assurbanipal> Avihay_work: gtk apps are not displayd. so no pidgin or thinderbird in tray
[09:45] <pkulas> same for skype etc
[09:45] <Avihay_work> *sadface*
[09:46] <assurbanipal> Avihay_work: it was a slap in the face for me too
[09:46] <assurbanipal> additionally i get often i would say crashes in plasma. refreshes the desktop and that's it. but not nice
[09:47] <Avihay_work> so the usual then?
[09:48] <ejay> I've spend whole yesterday to make new kubuntu usable but man this new systray is pain in the butt. Also broken Breeze dark is making me sad.
[09:49] <pho_> is it me or does Breeze Dark keep the panel white?
[09:50] <pkulas> pho_ : For me it is fine
[09:50] <ejay> pho_, it's not you. panel is white and it's the only thing I want dark.
[09:50] <pkulas> and dark
[09:51] <assurbanipal> another thing annoying is that sorting by name is case sensitive - files and folders with capital names appear first. so folder "bin" will appear after folder "Zones" in folder applet and in picking files etc... not nice
[09:52] <pho_> Okay, thank you.
[09:54] <pkulas> Do you think these bugs will get fixed in next months? Or it's a dream :D
[09:55] <pho_> pkulas - I think they will be as a lot of people are experiencing these bugs.
[09:55] <Avihay_work> well, it only took 4 years till the broken default task manager was replaced
[09:56] <pkulas> pho_ : There is are also dolphin bugged
[09:56] <pho_> Where?
[09:56] <pkulas> Can't add new places, even if You add, it's getting lost after new dolphin instance
[09:57] <assurbanipal> pkulas: i have succefully added places to dolphin
[09:57] <pkulas> assurbanipal : how?
[09:58] <pho_> oh, I see..
[09:58] <assurbanipal> ps: my upgrade from 14.10 broke. Got stuck. On reboot, my pc was getting stuck at boot. had to format and make clean install
[09:59] <assurbanipal> woops! pkulas u are right! new places cannot be added. it is because of my previous config that I have extra places
[09:59] <pkulas> :D
[09:59] <pkulas> I tried to install updates for plasma from beta ppa
[09:59] <pkulas> After it system was totally broken, and had to reinstall Kubuntu
[09:59] <assurbanipal> damn, that is a lot of bugs that affect productivity. imho still not ready
[10:00] <assurbanipal> should have stick with kde 4..
[10:00] <pho_> "We're sorry, Plasma closed unexpectedly." not again..
[10:01] <assurbanipal> pho_: I get that all the time
[10:01] <pho_> :/
[10:01] <pho_> assurbanipal: How could I restart it?
[10:01] <assurbanipal> especially if I do the following: create a widget and drag it from one screen to the other. boom. plasma dies
[10:01] <pkulas> kquitapp plasma-desktop then plasma-desktop again
[10:02] <assurbanipal> pho_: for me it restarts :(
[10:02] <pkulas> but no idea if that's gonna work
[10:02] <pho_> plasma-desktop: command not found
[10:02] <pho_> assurbanipal: i also expected it to restart but it didn't..
[10:02] <pkulas> oh sorry maybe it's a guide for some old version then
[10:03] <pho_> okay..
[10:04] <assurbanipal> pho_: as I said, trying to work with it since yesterday - first impression - not ready for work yet... If I knew I would not have updated. of course some bugs were expected but at the moment looks kind of messy...
[10:05] <assurbanipal> i would expect that new users and people who don't want to troubleshoot all the time will get really pissed off after installing kubuntu 15.04. Not stable enough and buggy
[10:07] <MoonUnit`> i hated the transition from 3.5 to 4.0, it will will be like that for plasma5 for some users. might take a few years though lol.
[10:08] <jubo2> what is the best way to dump the Kubuntu15.04 .iso into memory stick
[10:08] <jubo2> there was one using dd but that was clunky
[10:09] <jubo2> I think I can just cp the file with the right additional flags
[10:09] <MoonUnit`> startup disc creator should be installed.
[10:09] <jubo2> GUI?
[10:09] <MoonUnit`> yup
[10:09] <jubo2> awful
[10:09] <MoonUnit`> *disk
[10:09] <jubo2> give me cli solutoin
[10:10] <MoonUnit`> dd then :)
[10:10] <pkulas> ddrescue
[10:10] <assurbanipal> jubo2: in general dd is the most reliable way for burning isos. unetbootin and other graphical tools might not work with some distros
[10:10] <jubo2> dd if=image.iso of=...?
[10:11] <assurbanipal> jubo2: of = your output device = no partition.
[10:11] <jubo2> I would really like that that multi-boot USB disk creator thingy-tsydem does... if it would work
[10:11] <jubo2> alors..
[10:11] <jubo2> /dev/sdb
[10:11] <pkulas> jubo2 : This works nice : sudo ddrescue -d -D --force iso /dev/device
[10:11] <MoonUnit`> the ubuntu mate download site suggests, sudo ddrescue -d -D --force ubuntu-mate-15.04-desktop-amd64.iso /dev/sdx, adjust to your iso and device.
[10:12] <pkulas> You need to install gddrescue package to have ddrescue
[10:12] <jubo2> pkulas: and to get the device id I need to issue one of several o
[10:12] <jubo2> *potential commands
[10:12] <jubo2> lstat?
[10:12] <pkulas> jubo2: fdisk -l
[10:12] <jubo2> I don't recall
[10:12] <pkulas> as sudo
[10:13] <jubo2> pkulas: and the -d and the -D do what?
[10:14] <MoonUnit`> https://www.gnu.org/software/ddrescue/manual/ddrescue_manual.html
[10:15] <pho_> Back again. My laptop with kubuntu doesn't work anymore after reboot.
[10:15] <jubo2> pkulas: there is no ddrescue
[10:15] <jubo2> and apt doesn't know it either
[10:15] <pkulas> jubo2 : sudo apt-get install gddrescue
[10:15] <Avihay_work> well, I'm curious enough to download and run it in a VM
[10:15] <pho_> the OS works.. BUT the desktop is just black and a Telegram window (which I had open before rebooting)..
[10:15] <pkulas> there it is
[10:16] <pho_> I cant start anything using Alt+F2.
[10:16] <pkulas> pho_ : What did you change before restart?
[10:16] <pho_> Nothing. Before restart plasma crashed. I tried plasma or plasma-desktop in the terminal, then sudo reboot.
[10:17] <pkulas> And before plasma crash?
[10:17] <jubo2> GNU ddrescue running *smiles*
[10:17] <pho_> pkulas, Before plasma crash I only had the IRC running.
[10:18] <pho_> kubuntu should still be in early alpha.
[10:19] <pkulas> try ksystemlog maybe there is some info why it crashes
[10:19] <jubo2> pho_: Kubuntu is awesome. You get FireFox unlike in Debian GNU/Linux
[10:19] <jubo2> if you want stability and reliability then the flavour of the day is often Debian GNU/Linukka
[10:21] <pho_> jubo2, it is but not in that buggy state. It has to be possible to reach stability and reliability without Debian too.
[10:21] <pho_> pkulas, any hints on how I can get to a bash session?
[10:21] <jubo2> pho_: all the *Ubuntu are Debian derivs you know..
[10:22] <jubo2> I turn the netbook mode off 1st thing
[10:22] <pho_> jubo2, I do. but I thought you meant "pure" Debian.
[10:22] <jubo2> it is nice navigation to have the full screen task switcher sometimes but that it is the only navigation BAHH! Such strain on visual centers
[10:23] <pkulas> pho_ : You want console mode?
[10:23] <pho_> pkulas, yup.
[10:23] <pkulas> pho _ : Ctr + alt + F1-F6, Ctrl+alt+F7 is back to plasma
[10:24] <jubo2> got teh Kubuntu15.04 on the stick now
[10:24] <jubo2> off to maman's to eat and test the live-cd mode
[10:25] <pho_> Thanks. Will try it in a few minutes.
[10:25] <Zerkalerka> Anyone know why my windows keep opening on my secondary monitor rather than primary
[10:27] <pho_> Zerkalerka, what if you drag them to the other monitor and reopen them?
[10:33] <Zerkalerka> then they will open there temporarily, but if I reboot or come back after computer goes suspend it defautls back to secondary lol
[10:41] <MoonUnit`> i made a 10-monitor.conf for my dual screen, you can set which screen is primary.
[10:51] <Zerkalerka> is there a sample monitor.conf I can look at so I know how to set it up?
[10:53] <MoonUnit`> here's mine http://paste.ubuntu.com/10896355/
[11:01] <ejay> Zerkalerka, I had similiar problem with in KDE4. Making rules to force to open in first monitor fixed this.
[11:01] <Zerkalerka> ejay: in a monitor.conf file?\
[11:04] <pkulas> lol , dolphin not respond when kde is working with 2 files at once
[11:04] <pkulas> when I close 1 tab is back to work
[11:05] <pkulas> kate* not kde
[11:06] <ejay> Zerkalerka, you can click on window icon (left-upper corner) to invoke menu and there you can make rules for certain windows or whole apps.
[11:13] <Zerkalerka> in window rules?
[11:27] <ejay> Zerklarka, yes
[11:29] <hexch> HI, i've just upgrade to 15.04 from 14.10, I've reset kde, but plasmashell eating my memory
[11:36] <ejay> hexch, what do you mean by "eating"? is it constantly taking more and more of your memory or just form the start memory useage is high?
[11:41] <pkulas> hexch : check htop for real usage
[11:42] <pkulas> hexch : top and memory widget show cached memory, not real usage
[11:45] <ejay> pkulas, hexck, plasma shell is taking less then 300MB in my case. It's not a lot.
[11:45] <ejay> firefox is taking 700MB and this is why I hate modern browsers
[11:47] <LogicalDash> hello
[11:50] <LogicalDash> I just upgraded to 15.04. The new IM app mostly works fine, except when I'm in this one chatroom on a Prosody server, where it fails to display around half the messages, sent *or* received. Looking at the chat history in another client it appears the messages I send are actually making it to the room though.
[11:55] <lolmaus> How do i enable a quick launch panel in Vivid?
[11:57] <ejay> lolmaus, if you mean plasmoid then there is no such plasmoid at this moment.
[11:58] <LogicalDash> Perhaps there's another channel specific to that IM app?
[11:59] <lolmaus> ejay: can i reuse the old one?
[12:00] <ejay> lolmouse, as far as I know they changed API so no, you can't.
[12:25] <BluesKaj> Hiyas all
[12:29] <MoonUnit`> hi
[12:32] <ejay> hi
[12:32] <luc4> Hello! Anyone experiencing problems with audio in 15.04?
[12:33] <ejay> luc4, can you elaborate?
[12:39] <luc4> ejay: simply no audio
[12:40] <luc4> ejay: I tried to set in “multimedia” the one named “Bilt-in audio analog stereo” but still no audio.
[12:46] <ejay> luc4, did you upgraded from prev versoin or it is fresh installation?
[12:47] <whiteda> updated from 1410 to 1504 - now computer suspends after 5 min inactivity. All times on power mgmt energy saving are 30 min or longer. where do I change suspend time?
[12:52] <luc4> ejay: updated from 14.10
[12:56] <MoonUnit`> whiteda: settings/desktop behaviour/screen locking
[12:56] <whiteda> nevermind finally found it while waiting
[12:56] <whiteda> MoonUnit`, thanks
[13:04] <ejay> luc4, you need to ask google. I tried to find something in this topic but did not found nothing interesting.
[13:04] <ejay> sry
[13:05] <luc4> ejay: done that already, that is why I asked here.
[13:05] <luc4> tried with previous kernel, no audio.
[13:11] <BluesKaj> luc4, what doe, lspci | grep -i audio, show in the terminal
[13:11] <BluesKaj> does
[13:14] <luc4_kubuntu> BluesKaj: https://paste.kde.org/pyrwjn1im
[13:18] <BluesKaj> luc4_kubuntu, run sudo modprobe snd-hda-intel, if there's no error/output then the driver loaded preoperly..you probly need to reboot...this is known bug with intel driver not loading after an upgrade
[13:19] <luc4_kubuntu> BluesKaj: no error. but I did 1000 reboots before I could make the new kubuntu work here. So a reboot won't fix audio.
[13:20] <luc4_kubuntu> BluesKaj: also tried kernel 3.16 without success
[13:20] <BluesKaj> yea, but make sure you run the command first
[13:20] <pkulas> luc4_kubuntu : Did you try Kubuntu 15.04 live if audio works there?
[13:20] <luc4_kubuntu> pkulas: no, that I didn't try
[13:21] <luc4_kubuntu> BluesKaj: ok, so I ran the command, trying to reboot again. See you in a min.
[13:21] <BluesKaj> no matter you need to reboot after the command luc4_kubuntu , it works 90% of the time
[13:22] <pkulas> luc4_kubuntu : With checking 15.04 live you would know if problem is new packages or because of upgrade
[13:24] <kairox> hello if plasmashell 5.2.2 is note ready why the hell they make it downoloadable oh my god to much bug now the plasmashell doesn't even work
[13:27] <luc4> BluesKaj: unfortunately no way
[13:27] <luc4> BluesKaj: audio still not working
[13:28] <BluesKaj> have you checked alsamixer automute to make sure it's disabled , luc4
[13:28] <jubo2> I want to shrink existing Kubuntu14 disk to fit in a Kubuntu15
[13:29] <jubo2> should I do this in the Kubuntu14 or the Kubuntu15 installer ?
[13:30] <luc4> BluesKaj: yes, it seems to be enabled
[13:30] <BluesKaj> jubo2, what exactly do you want to do, upgrade fro 14.10 to 15.04 or?
[13:30] <jubo2> I want clean Kubuntu15 install
[13:30] <BluesKaj> luc4, then disable automute
[13:30] <jubo2> clean, fresh, clean, fresh
[13:30] <pkulas> jubo2 : the do it with 15.04 disc
[13:30] <jubo2> also need 64-bit system to enable the Android emulator
[13:31] <jubo2> pkulas: ok
[13:31] <pkulas> then*
[13:31] <luc4> BluesKaj: oh interesting...
[13:31] <BluesKaj> jubo2, do you have / and /home partitions?
[13:31] <jubo2> BluesKaj: no, just /
[13:32] <BluesKaj> what about your data jubo2 , do you have it backed up ?
[13:32] <jubo2> I will be getting all my cloud storage needs from MaidSafe Network just as soon as it goes online
[13:32] <luc4> BluesKaj: I disabled but nothing changed. Now I notice that in “Audio Hardware setup” the test works if I select “Headphones”
[13:32] <jubo2> BluesKaj: yeah. I chose all the relevant dirs from homedir
[13:32] <jubo2> .tar.gz'ed 'em and to USB stick
[13:32] <luc4> BluesKaj: yes, everything works now
[13:33] <pkulas> jubo2 : You should use dd or ddrescue with iso to make usb live
[13:33] <jubo2> I used the ddrescue
[13:33] <BluesKaj> ok jubo suggest you use manual partioning, but auto will probly work since you use just /
[13:33] <pkulas> and not work?
[13:33] <jubo2> gonna boot from USB stick and see if I can into shrinking the existing EXT4 partition
[13:34] <luc4> BluesKaj: seems a KDE bug…
[13:34] <luc4> BluesKaj: but not sure… may be somewhere else
[13:34] <BluesKaj> luc4, no the bug also applies to unity and gnome
[13:35] <luc4> BluesKaj: what? This thing related to the headphones?
[13:36] <BluesKaj> luc4, it doesn';t happen as often as last yr , but it's still around
[13:36] <luc4> BluesKaj: I see… ok then, at least audio is ok now
[13:36] <BluesKaj> not related to headphones, luc4
[13:36] <luc4> BluesKaj: thanks!
[13:36] <BluesKaj> luc4, you're welcome , glad to help
[13:37] <luc4> BluesKaj: yes, it seems lower level. alsamixer reports headphones at 100% volume, and Speaker 0%. But audio comes out from the speaker.
[13:38] <luc4> BluesKaj: so, as it seems the kernel is not reponsible… maybe alsa?
[13:40] <darthanubis> http://pastebin.com/5v02NVQ0
[13:41] <jubodrei> Resizing the existing partition
[13:41] <alvin> Anyone who still has a 3,5" floppy drive? I upgraded one of my servers to Debian Jessie, and it panics on detecting fd0. Since Kubuntu also has systemd, are there no panics there? (Disabled it in BIOS to boot)
[13:41] <jubodrei> I gonna get Android devel environment
[13:42] <pkulas> jubodrei : Is it worth to make Android dev environment on plasma 5?
[13:43] <Marquel> morning. is there a metapackage to install all kde games in kubuntu-15.04?
[13:47] <darthanubis> Marquel: I wouldn't. Some are still broken
[13:47] <darthanubis> http://qa.kubuntu.co.uk/ninjas-status/build_status_15.04.0_vivid.html
[13:48] <darthanubis> Ok, well how do I report this mime-support bug so it can get fixed?
[13:51] <Marquel> darthanubis: don't care too much. it's a ten-year-old netbook just to get someone acquainted to linux, who's pissed windows doesn't have all teh games.
[13:51] <darthanubis> the package is kde-games
[13:52] <darthanubis> !kde-games
[13:52] <darthanubis> nope
[13:52] <alvin> Hey, a netbook. That reminds me, is there a netbook mode for plasma5?
[13:53] <darthanubis> !kdegames
[13:54] <darthanubis> there used to be a meta package
[13:54] <darthanubis> !kde-full
[13:58] <juboxi> Success!
[14:01] <BluesKaj> juboxi, was going to recommend a / and /home partition for future ease of installs of OS releases
[14:01] <juboxi> BluesKaj: too late
[14:01] <Marquel> now well, if there's currently no meta-package for this, it'll probably be there later and until then, installation will be done game-by-game.
[14:02] <Marquel> thanks.
[14:02] <juboxi> I gonna get a terabyte disk and move this 200GB partition there and expand
[14:02] <BluesKaj> yeah juboxi you left too quickly
[14:02] <juboxi> Shiny!
[14:04] * juboxi does the new OS version dance
[14:06] <darthanubis> http://pastebin.com/5v02NVQ0
[14:06] * juboxi is liking it
[14:08] <CodeBot3000> Hey there guys
[14:08] <CodeBot3000> So I went in the input settings and swapped Caps Lock and Escape.
[14:09] <CodeBot3000> It works great most of the time, but in some applications/situations it stops working or works in a strange manner.
[14:10] <CodeBot3000> For example, when I open the game Torchlight 2, Caps Lock does nothing, and Escape does *both* Caps Lock and Escape.
[14:11] <CodeBot3000> Anyone knows a solution to that? Is there a more low-level swap that would make it work universally, or a way to swap for the entire system vs just one user?\
[14:15] <darthanubis> http://paste.ubuntu.com/10898316/
[14:16] <BluesKaj> CodeBot3000, capslock is nothing but a pita for me...I just disable it and use the shift for capitlization
[14:17] <juboxi> I will now make an 'sudo apt install' list
[14:18] <juboxi> sudo apt install gimp inkscape kdenlive
[14:19] <juboxi> Blender I prlly want to get the latest and not the distribution verison
[14:19] <juboxi> sudo apt install apache mysql mysql-server php
[14:19] <BluesKaj> juboxi, you don't need to tell us all about it here , maybe in offtopic
[14:19] <pkulas> juboxi
[14:20] <pkulas> There is now blender in steam ^
[14:20] <CodeBot3000> BluesKaj: I'm a programmer, so Caps Lock comes quite handy for me. However not nearly as handy as the Escape key, which I need for Vim.
[14:20] <juboxi> CONSTANTS IN CAPS
[14:21] <CodeBot3000> Yeah, Blender on Steam is nice because it will be updated to the latest version.
[14:21] <juboxi> I know steam is something for games
[14:21] <juboxi> lot of games
[14:21] <CodeBot3000> juboxi: nah. EVERY VAR IN CAPS.
[14:21] <juboxi> Is it something more now
[14:21] <juboxi> CodeBot3000: USE BRAINFUCK AS PRIMARY IMPLEMENTATION LANGUAGE
[14:21] <CodeBot3000> juboxi: Well, now they have apps on it, mostly related to create game-related content?
[14:22] <juboxi> CodeBot3000: It'd be so nice to do elementary 3-D
[14:22] <juboxi> So I want the latest Blender
[14:22] <CodeBot3000> juboxi: Actually, my favorite thing this week: https://dogescript.com/live/
[14:23] <juboxi> I hear Blender is also a non-linear video editor.. could it be due to it being a compositor
[14:23] <CodeBot3000> juboxi: It is, I use it for video editing a lot.
[14:23] <juboxi> compositor > editor
[14:23] <juboxi> I use kdenlive
[14:23] <CodeBot3000> juboxi: It has both.
[14:24] <juboxi> I think I want to install FreeCAD or something
[14:24] <darthanubis> !language | CodeBot3000
[14:24] <juboxi> I want it all, the LFGOSS candy
[14:25] <CodeBot3000> darthanubis: Am I not speaking calm, polite English?
[14:26] <darthanubis> there was some profanity
[14:26] <juboxi> Propane?
[14:26] <juboxi> Nitrous Oxide?
[14:26] <CodeBot3000> darthanubis: It wasn't me who said it, but 'BRAINFUCK' is the name of a programming language.
[14:27] <jubo2> brainfuck is a programming language where none of the alphanumeric mean anything so no comment signs are required
[14:27] <BluesKaj> jubo2, now that language is profane
[14:28] <jubo2> NO COMMENT SIGNS!
[14:28] <CodeBot3000> BluesKaj: Hahahah
[14:28] <BluesKaj> please stop
[14:57] <Taggnostr4> Hello
[14:59] <Taggnostr4> A couple of days ago I updated to 15.10 on an old laptop and after the login screen everything was black. I spent a few hours debugging but nothing worked. Now I downloaded 15.10 on a USB drive and started it from there, and I can only see the background with the triangles
[15:00] <Taggnostr4> Does this mean that 15.04 can not work on my system and I have to stick to 14.10?
[15:02] <pkulas> Taggnostr4 : How old laptop is it
[15:02] <Avihay_work> Taggnostr4: that's more or less what happens to me in VirtualBox
[15:02] <Taggnostr4> Quite old, 8+ years
[15:02] <Avihay_work> after I install guest additions gfx driver
[15:03] <pkulas> Taggnostr4 : for such old pc i would rather think about a distro with xfce/lxde
[15:03] <Taggnostr4> When I asked a couple of days ago a few people reported similar issues
[15:04] <Taggnostr4> pkulas, 14.10 was running fine, apparently the problem is related to the nvidia drivers on 15.04
[15:05] <Taggnostr4> At some point I managed to get windows to show up, but they were without borders
[15:05] <Taggnostr4> I had to click blindly on the bottom left to get the menu to appear from the darkness
[15:06] <pkulas> Did you try to restart live usb? Sometimes it happens to crash
[15:06] <Taggnostr4> Another symptom I noticed was kwin_x11 eating all the CPU
[15:06] <Taggnostr4> Trying now
[15:07] <Taggnostr4> What I'm talking about was after I upgraded the main installation
[15:07] <pkulas> oh so 14.10 to 15.04
[15:07] <hyper_ch> another bug reported
[15:07] <pkulas> Many people reported some problems after upgrade
[15:08] <Taggnostr4> pkulas, yes
[15:08] <hyper_ch> it's a major change
[15:08] <hyper_ch> new kernel
[15:08] <hyper_ch> systemd
[15:08] <hyper_ch> plasma 5
[15:08] <Taggnostr4> Now I got a live usb and I'm trying with that
[15:09] <Taggnostr4> But it still doesn't seem to work
[15:11] <Taggnostr4> After a reboot I don't even get the triangles background
[15:12] <Taggnostr4> Everything is black and the PC is not responding
[15:12] <hyper_ch> Taggnostr4: I did a complete fresh install
[15:13] <Taggnostr4> hyper_ch, did it work?
[15:14] <hyper_ch> fresh install did but there's till a lot of bugs I have to complain about ;)
[15:14] <hyper_ch> as said, it's a major change
[15:14] <Taggnostr4> I'm trying to figure out of there's a way to get 15.04 to work, possibly without formatting
[15:14] <Taggnostr4> If*
[15:14] <hyper_ch> Taggnostr4: well, I backed up first.... (I always have backups, make them nightly)
[15:14] <Taggnostr4> Otherwise I'll have to format and reinstall 14.10
[15:15] <hyper_ch> wipped system and installed 15.04 ;)
[15:15] <Taggnostr4> And it worked at the first attempt?
[15:16] <pkulas> Did any1 try to get work with this ppa https://launchpad.net/~kubuntu-ppa/+archive/ubuntu/beta ?
[15:16] <hyper_ch> Taggnostr4: yes
[15:17] <hyper_ch> pkulas: I have that also isntalled
[15:17] <pkulas> hyper_ch : Does it work for you?
[15:17] <pkulas> I tried yesterday and it broken my whole plasma, I had to reinstall system
[15:17] <hyper_ch> yes
[15:17] <lolmaus> After upgrading to Vivid, i've got a problem with fonts in terminal: bold text won't fit and results in a glitch. Any ideas how to resolve that?
[15:19] <hyper_ch> lolmaus: screenshot.. no idea what you mean
[15:19] <Taggnostr4> From the live USB, if I get to a tty it asks me user and pass, is there a default one?
[15:19] <pkulas> Just type enter
[15:19] <pkulas> press*
[15:19] <pkulas> No password
[15:20] <Taggnostr4> What user should I use?
[15:20] <darthanubis> http://paste.ubuntu.com/10898316/
[15:20] <Taggnostr4> It says "kubuntu login: " and if I press enter there it just shows the same prompt
[15:21] <pkulas> try kubuntu
[15:21] <Taggnostr4> That worked :)
[15:23] <Taggnostr4> If I do a "top" there's basically nothing running
[15:23] <Irish_Canon> Has anyone tried Kubuntu 15.04 yet
[15:24] <darthanubis> of course
[15:24] <Irish_Canon> What did you think of it
[15:24] <darthanubis> pretty..
[15:24] <darthanubis> shiny
[15:25] <darthanubis> buggy
[15:25] <darthanubis> clean install, do not upgrade
[15:25] <darthanubis> ymmv
[15:25] <Irish_Canon> usually its buggy til 15.10
[15:25] <darthanubis> but it is pretty
[15:25] <darthanubis> that has not been my experience
[15:25] <BluesKaj> Irish_Canon, depends whether you want to deal wirth some missing widgets etc
[15:26] <darthanubis> this version seems rushed
[15:26] <Taggnostr4> If I run startx from the terminal on the live USB another different blurry triangles background appears
[15:26] <darthanubis> missing widgets
[15:26] <darthanubis> missing apps
[15:26] <Taggnostr4> The mouse pointer also disappeared
[15:26] <darthanubis> broken mime-support
[15:26] <darthanubis> Irish_Canon: http://qa.kubuntu.co.uk/ninjas-status/build_status_15.04.0_vivid.html
[15:27] <Irish_Canon> like i said things are usually not totally fix til x.10
[15:27] <darthanubis> like I said, that has not been my experience
[15:28] <Taggnostr4> Is there anything else I could try from the live USB?
[15:29] <JMichaelX> so, widgets like yawp cannot be used in plasma5?
[15:29] <darthanubis> nop
[15:29] <Taggnostr4> And if it doesn't work there, does it mean that all hope is lost?
[15:29] <darthanubis> JMichaelX: I love yawp, but it'll wait
[15:29] <darthanubis> unless I roll back
[15:30] <Irish_Canon> or, unless they recode yawp
[15:30] <JMichaelX> darthanubis: i upgraded one machine to 15.04... but i am not sure i'll upgrade any others
[15:31] <darthanubis> JMichaelX: my kodi box is running 15.04 xubuntu no issues...yet
[15:31] * Taggnostr4 downloads 14.10
[15:31] <JMichaelX> well, i mean kubuntu 15.04
[15:31] <darthanubis> I don't know what is up with mime-support on my main machine
[15:32] <JMichaelX> is the only way to add app icons to the panel to select 'show launcher when not running'?
[15:32] <darthanubis> nice, gtk themeing just kicked in
[15:33] <darthanubis> JMichaelX: I was able to drag and drop although I don't put icons on the taskbar
[15:33] <hyper_ch> stupid (K)ubuntu Locale setting
[15:34] <murthy> BluesKaj: are you there?
[15:36] <BluesKaj> murthy, yes
[15:36] <murthy> I think I just deleted files by mistake using the rm -rf command
[15:36] <ejay> For all of those that got issues with new systray: I found another solution to this provided by MoonUnit - http://www.reddit.com/r/kde/comments/2k0op8/system_tray_issues_in_plasma_51kf_53/cnqh9n8. Didn't tested it doe but it is probably another way to deal with GTK apps and plasma5 systray.
[15:36] <murthy> How do I know what files got deleted
[15:37] <murthy> The drive's symbolic link on which i used the command has a lot of family photos and important document
[15:37] <darthanubis> not good
[15:38] <murthy> I intended to delete the symbolic link but when the command was waiting, I realised the files are getting deleted in the background
[15:38] <BluesKaj> murthy, scroll back in the terminal to check the path you rm -rf'd
[15:38] <murthy> i will give you
[15:39] <darthanubis> lol! i fixed my issue myself, again!
[15:39] <darthanubis> whew!
[15:39] <darthanubis> http://askubuntu.com/questions/102480/sudo-apt-get-upgrade-fails-due-to-shared-mime-info-postinst-error
[15:39] <hyper_ch> BluesKaj: I still have locale issues.... in KDE all seems fine... english UI with swiss german for other stuff like date/clock/currency.... however Konsole terminal shell is now german... how can I alter that to english?
[15:39] <hyper_ch> also, where can I report a plasma desktop bug to?
[15:40] <murthy> in the /media/<username>/ one of my drive is mounted as docs and I created a symbolic link using the command ln -s docs docs2 from the same directory using the command line. after some time I did sudo rm -rf docs2
[15:40] <murthy> BluesKaj: ^
[15:41] <murthy> know how can i get a list of the files that the command removed/deleted
[15:42] <murthy> *now
[15:43] <BluesKaj> no I don't , murthy, sorry /:
[15:43] <murthy> ok
[15:44] <personal> Installing., Me : Do not fetch remote files kbuntu , Kbuntu : F U , ME : X X X X X , kbuntu : F U .
[15:45] <BluesKaj> personal, we don't need a running display
[15:46] <BluesKaj> murthy, I doubt there's a method to repair rm -rf , but I could be wrong
[15:47] <murthy> BluesKaj: I am checking out this right now
[15:47] <murthy> http://www.cyberciti.biz/tips/linux-ext3-ext4-deleted-files-recovery-howto.html
[15:52] <ralgozino> Hello there! A quick question: I was running Vivid Beta, should I reinstall the stable release or updating via apt-get is enough?
[15:53] <BluesKaj> update/upgrade and dist-upgrade should do it , ralgozino
[15:53] <darthanubis> ralgozino: should
[15:54] <darthanubis> If I didn't have an unresolvable issue I would have just stuck with the install I had
[15:54] <darthanubis> but I had to clean install
[15:54] <darthanubis> if you do, keep the /home dir
[16:03] <Obyone> How do i get a activities switcher on the bottom window bar.
[16:15] <mparillo> Right-click, add widgets, Activities?
[16:17] <hyper_ch> how can I switch the terminal to english in Kubuntu 15.04? KDE itself is already english
Thanks :- )
[16:32] <lolmaus_> How do i prevent locking when idle? I disabled it in Power Management, but it still happens.
[16:33] <jubo2> lolmaus_: I'd like to stop that on my Kubuntu15 too
[16:33] <MoonUnit`> settings/desktop behaviour/screen locking
[16:34] <jubo2> Thanks MoonUnit`
[16:36] <JMichaelX> so i try to set background transparency in Konsole, but it does not seem to work. enabled wobbly windows, but that also does not seem to work... how does one tell whether or not desktop effects are working at all?
[16:41] <darthanubis> JMichaelX: sounds like you don't have the proper graphics driver enabled
[16:42] <JMichaelX> onboard intel graphics
[16:42] <JMichaelX> desktops effects had always worked before
[16:43] <darthanubis> ok good
[16:43] <darthanubis> make sure they are on
[16:43] <darthanubis> opengl 3.1
[16:43] <BluesKaj> JMichaelX, one good test is to use virtual desktops with pager widget and desktop cube animation for switching said desktops
[16:44] <JMichaelX> BluesKaj: i enabled desktop cube animation, but to no avail.... maybe i need to restart session
[16:44] <darthanubis> or make sure the Enable compositor on startup is checked in systemsettings
[16:45] <darthanubis> make sure you have the proper backend, opengl interface etc
[16:46] <BluesKaj> i have intel graphics on my laptop with no desktop effects problems JMichaelX , so the effects do work
[16:47] <BluesKaj> JMichaelX, assume you updated and upgraded since the install
[16:57] <JMichaelX> BluesKaj: yes, i have.
[16:57] <JMichaelX> i rebooted, but still no desktop effects
[16:58] <hyper_ch> what's the proper way to get the terminal into english mode was well?
[17:00] <ralgozino> thanks darthanubis and BluesKaj!
[17:00] <jubo2> hyper_ch: I think set locale to 'C' and that should give default of English behaviour in the cli
[17:00] <jubo2> not sure though
[17:01] <JMichaelX> my rendering backend was set to OpenGL 2.0. will now try 3.1
[17:01] <hyper_ch> jubo2: and how to do that?
[17:01] <jubo2> hyper_ch: I don't recall
[17:01] <darthanubis> Yw
[17:01] <hyper_ch> for some weird reason locale shows : LANGUAGE=en_US:de
[17:01] <personal> I change system wide text size , but does not change the size of the desktop program icon's text.
[17:01] <jubo2> hyper_ch: setting the locale
[17:01] <hyper_ch> and I have no idea where it gets that from
[17:01] <hyper_ch> jubo2: how do you set the locale?
[17:02] <jubo2> hyper_ch: I don't recall
[17:04] <JMichaelX> yeah, no desktop effects, using onboard graphics, using an intel atom processor
[17:10] <JMichaelX> i do have desktop effects using XRender, however
[17:11] <JMichaelX> no idea what the downside to XRender might be. desktop cube does not work
[17:36] <JMichaelX> is there a plasma widget for weather that works with plasma5?
[17:38] <BluesKaj> JMichaelX, I don't see one available
[17:39] <Obyone__> How do get firefox to use system fonts . I would like all progrms to use the system font it possible, that i set in the settings manager.
[17:39] <JMichaelX> ok, thanks
[17:39] <MoonUnit`> i'm using this one https://www.kubuntuforums.net/showthread.php?67806-The-first-of-plasma-5-weather-widgets
[17:39] <MoonUnit`> need to also install qml-module-qtquick-xmllistmodel to get it working.
[17:40] <BluesKaj> JMichaelX, i think the widget downloader for get new widgets is kde-look.org and it's down for maintenance atm
[17:40] <MoonUnit`> yeah down for me too, that weather widget is there.
[17:40] <JMichaelX> BluesKaj: ahh, that's why it's not working.
[17:40] <Hairo> mmm, no dropbox indicator?
[17:42] <MoonUnit`> you can get the weather widget from git https://github.com/librehat/com.librehat.yahooweather
[17:44] <MoonUnit`> wish it had a dark version though, hard to see with some themes.
[17:44] <JMichaelX> if anyone else is having issues getting OpenGL compositing to work in plasma5, with intel graphics, i'd love to hear about it
[17:44] <MoonUnit`> weather decals are white, not good with white themes
[17:45] <pkulas> I tried that weather widget yesterday but it didn't load weath info
[17:46] <MoonUnit`> did you install qml-module-qtquick-xmllistmodel?
[17:46] <MoonUnit`> won't run without it
[17:47] <pkulas> weather widget?
[17:48] <MoonUnit`> yeah
[17:48] <pkulas> oh
[17:48] <pkulas> I didn't
[17:48] <pkulas> I will try it, thanks
[17:50] <MoonUnit`> linux action show broadcasting live from linux fest north west atm.
[17:50] <MoonUnit`> http://www.jupiterbroadcasting.com/1030/jblive/
[17:52] <Aristide> Hi :)
[17:53] <Aristide> Plasma 5.3 is available for Kubuntu Vivid, but I don't have 5.3 version :/
[17:53] <pkulas> It's not
[17:53] <MoonUnit`> it's available as a beta http://www.kubuntu.org/news/plasma-5.3-beta
[17:54] <Hairo> don't install that
[17:54] <Hairo> it'll break
[17:55] <JMichaelX> BluesKaj: would you happen to have the kubuntu ppa, and/or the backports ppa enabled on your system?
[17:55] <pkulas> For me it broke whole Kubuntu
[17:55] <Aristide> Oh OK :)
[17:55] <MoonUnit`> running ok for me
[17:55] <MoonUnit`> ymmv
[17:55] <pkulas> I simple added beta ppa then update then upgrade and after restart plasma crashing every few seconds.
[17:56] <BluesKaj> JMichaelX,yes
[17:56] <Aristide> I'm crazy
[17:56] <Aristide> Time to upgrade to 5.3 :D
[17:56] <pkulas> gl
[17:56] <JMichaelX> i am wondering if i might be able to get OpenGL compositiong working, if i install updates from both the kubuntu and the backports PPAs
[17:56] <MoonUnit`> this is where btrfs would come in handy if you could trust it
[17:58] <Aristide> Gogogog ! Thank's MoonUnit :)
[17:58] <MoonUnit`> gl :)
[17:58] <Aristide> :x
[17:59] <Aristide> Hop upgrade fired !!!!
[17:59] <Aristide> Yes !
[17:59] <BluesKaj> JMichaelX, here's the backports ppa: https://launchpad.net/~kubuntu-ppa/+archive/ubuntu/backports
[17:59] <Aristide> Wut ?
[18:00] <Aristide> [Connexion à ppa.launchpad.net (10.10.10.10)]
[18:00] <Aristide> x)
[18:00] <Aristide> Oh, if I restart upgrade : Its work
[18:01] <BluesKaj> JMichaelX, use at your own risk :-)
[18:02] <JMichaelX> BluesKaj: is there not also a kubuntu ppa?
[18:05] <BluesKaj> JMichaelX, that is the kubuntu-ppa
[18:07] <pkulas> I tried some beta ppa
[18:07] <pkulas> so maybe I did wrong ppa
[18:09] <BluesKaj> pkulas, no the kubuntu-next ppa data was moved to the backports-ppa
[18:14] <JMichaelX> BluesKaj: i guess i was wondering about the updates PPA. maybe that is not available for vivid?
[18:14] <pkulas> I will try at night updates from backports-ppa , maybe that gonna work :)
[18:16] <BluesKaj> JMichaelX, for plasma 5.3?
[18:17] <JMichaelX> BluesKaj: no, this: https://launchpad.net/~kubuntu-ppa/+archive/ubuntu/ppa
[18:17] <JMichaelX> or maybe that is what you meant
[18:20] <BluesKaj> JMichaelX, I'm referring to 15.04 ppas here , not older releaeses
[18:21] <JMichaelX> BluesKaj: i was asking whether or not there was an updates PPA for 15.04
[18:22] <JMichaelX> there does not appear to be one
[18:23] <BluesKaj> JMichaelX, there's no such animal
[18:24] <JMichaelX> BluesKaj: so it was discontinued since the last release? it still existed for utopic
[18:25] <BluesKaj> it might becalled something else , never heard of an updates ppa
[18:25] <JMichaelX> it is what i just linked you to
[18:26] <JMichaelX> it was titled "Kubuntu Updates"
[18:26] <BluesKaj> it's not called updates yet, snce kde5 is still in development, that's what i assume
[18:27] <BluesKaj> if you'll notice the apps included in the "updates"
[18:28] <BluesKaj> n
[18:28] <BluesKaj> oops
[18:28] <PercyB> I was just thinking about having Kubuntu on an encrypted partition - it seems it's not possible atm. Maybe I'm mistaken, but the installer seems to work only with full disk encryption
[18:29] <BluesKaj> JMichaelX, they're called "Mostly KDE point releases" , so we might see one for 15.04 later
[18:29] <lordievader> PercyB: You're gonna need the mini iso for that ;)
[18:30] <lordievader> Ubiquity is can do luks + lvm but with that option it will use the full disk.
[18:30] <PercyB> lordievader Great thanks. It's good to know that at least it's possible :)
[18:31] <lordievader> PercyB: If worse comes to pass you could allways do a debootstrap ;)
[18:34] <PercyB> lordievader Hmm, just found a blog with mini-iso guide - it looks like it's basically the debian installer. Great, that looks good, thx.
[18:35] <lordievader> PercyB: Jup, basic text installer.
[18:37] <Neuhristide> :3
[18:37] <Neuhristide> Lol I have break Kubuntu
[18:38] <JMichaelX> BluesKaj: makes sense
[18:38] <Neuhristide> He don't want to reboot
[18:39] <Neuhristide> But first reboot has work :/ but has freeze in login entry
[18:41] <PercyB> lordievader As there is only a 14.04 Mini-iso for Ubuntu, does it mean I can only use it for installing 14.04 Kubuntu?
[18:41] <lordievader> Hmm, no 15.04? Nope don't know anything about that.
[18:41] <bazhang> !mini
[18:42] <PercyB> Well, there is no 15.04 mini-cd on the Ubuntu page yet
[18:44] <lordievader> PercyB: Vivid mini: http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/vivid/main/installer-amd64/current/images/netboot/mini.iso
[18:46] <PercyB> lordievader Oh, great! Thank you
[18:46] <lordievader> PercyB: No problem ;)
[18:51] <JMichaelX> OK, i have tried anything i can think of. just cannot get desktop effects to work in 15.04, using OpenGL
[18:51] <BluesKaj> Neuhristide, drop to TT/VT , ctl+alt+F1-F6 , then update/upgrade and dist-upgrade
[18:53] <Neuhristide> Ok i try it now
[18:54] <Neuhristide> I have only a blinking _ cursor :3
[18:55] <Neuhristide> I try recovery mode
[18:55] <BluesKaj> JMichaelX, intel graphics, should be using the i915 driver, run, dkms status, in the terminal
[18:55] <Neuhristide> Brtfs : Enabling ssd mode
[18:55] <Neuhristide> ... Ok
[18:56] <Neuhristide> Boot stop at this task
[18:57] <Neuhristide> This operation take lot of time ? Oo'
[18:57] <BluesKaj> if you have lots of upgrades
[18:58] <Neuhristide> Hm ... I speak about enabling ssd mode :3
[18:58] <Neuhristide> For brtfs
[18:59] <Neuhristide> Oh :')
[18:59] <Neuhristide> A kernel panic xD
[18:59] <JMichaelX> BluesKaj: i have never had to use dkms for anything on this machine before. are you saying i may need to compile a module for intel graphics?
[18:59] <JMichaelX> there was no output for 'dkms status'
[19:00] <BluesKaj> JMichaelX, no, just install dkms
[19:00] <JMichaelX> yes, i just installed it
[19:00] <BluesKaj> JMichaelX, hang on let me get my laptop
[19:01] <Neuhristide> Ok my system is break
[19:05] <BluesKaj> JMichaelX, run this to see which driver is in use: lspci -knn | egrep -A 3 'VGA|3D'
[19:05] <JMichaelX> BluesKaj: Kernel driver in use: i915
[19:08] <JMichaelX> i am getting a *few* desktop effects, using XRender, but nothing under OpenGL
[19:09] <JMichaelX> i have shut off Blur, as well as a few others
[19:11] <BluesKaj> JMichaelX, are you right up to date with all upgrades etc ?
[19:14] <ejay> Guys, is it me or when renaming directory (in dolphin) it creates a new folder with new name and leaving old dir with old name (but content is in new dir).
[19:15] <ejay> leaves*
[19:16] <JMichaelX> BluesKaj: yes. also just installed all updates from backports PPA
[19:17] <JMichaelX> in other news, i turned off screen locking, but it is still locking the screen
[19:20] <BluesKaj> JMichaelX, try a reboot then OpenGL
[19:21] <JMichaelX> BluesKaj: have rebooted multiple times
[19:22] <BluesKaj> since the backports upgrades?
[19:22] <JMichaelX> yes
[19:30] <MoonUnit`> JMichaelX: tried the 4.0 kernel?
[19:31] <JMichaelX> MoonUnit`: no. think there's a chance that could help?
[19:32] <MoonUnit`> can't hurt, intel are always making kernel changes.
[19:32] <MoonUnit`> http://kernel.ubuntu.com/~kernel-ppa/mainline/v4.0-vivid/
[19:34] <JMichaelX> MoonUnit`: thx. may give it a shot, later this afternoon. now time for gardening.
[19:41] <Longbottom> Hi, ist es möglich beim neuen kubuntu den Doppelklick in der Systemsteuerung und beim Öffnen von Dateien (z.B. kate) auszuschalten?
[19:41] <Longbottom> Die Doppelklick-Einstellung in den Systemeinstellungen hat darauf keinen Effekt.
[19:42] <BluesKaj> odd, because the 3.19 kernel works just fine on my intel laptop
[19:44] <BluesKaj> !de | Longbottom
[19:44] <Longbottom> Hi, can I change the double click in system settings to single click? The mouse setting has no effect on the system settings itself.
[19:46] <BluesKaj> Longbottom, system-settings>input devices>mouse
[19:46] <amari> Is there some PPA to download KDE apps 15.04?
[19:46] <MoonUnit`> there is a mouse setting in dolphin too.
[19:48] <BluesKaj> MoonUnit`, think the systemsettings mouse setting is global
[19:49] <Longbottom> BluesKaj: Both, the system-settings and the dolphin settings are single click. But system settings and the file dialog in kate need double click.
[19:49] <Etriaph> amari: http://news.softpedia.com/news/Kubuntu-15-04-Users-Can-Install-the-Gorgeous-Plasma-5-3-Beta-Desktop-479074.shtml
[19:49] <amari> Etriaph: I already installed the final from the backports ppa :)
[19:49] <amari> it's awesome :D
[19:50] <amari> but I wanted the apps, those aren't included I think, or are they?
[19:50] <BluesKaj> Longbottom, which kubuntu version, i have never encountered that
[19:50] <ejay> amari, what you mean by awesome? Can you provide some details?
[19:50] <Etriaph> amari: I haven't dared try yet.
[19:50] <Etriaph> amari: It's more than the 15.04 base has.
[19:50] <Longbottom> BluesKaj: I've updated to 15.04 today.
[19:50] <amari> ejay: Seems faster and more stable in my machine :D
[19:52] <BluesKaj> Longbottom, ok have you upgraded too?
[19:52] <ejay> amari, current version is fast and stable. I'm kinda hyped for more fast and stable experience. ;)
[19:52] <Longbottom> BluesKaj: yes.
[19:52] <Etriaph> Heck, I'll try it out.
[19:52] <amari> ejay: current had some crashes for me :P
[19:53] <amari> but this 5.3 seems to flow smoother
[19:53] <BluesKaj> yes amari, but as you can see some users still have serious problems
[19:54] <amari> BluesKaj: It's to be expected for the first release with plasma5. It's much better than I expected :D
[20:03] <Etriaph> Well... disappointed to only have Dolphin kde 4 build
[20:04] <BluesKaj> Etriaph, yup, and it's going to stay nthat way for a while :/
[20:04] <Etriaph> This version is broken though.
[20:04] <Etriaph> Can't save a Place.
[20:06] <Etriaph> It's been reported on launchpad but it's getting me down :(
[20:06] <rosner> Здорова всем
[20:06] <Unit193> !ru | rosner
[20:07] <rosner> ок
[20:09] <Kaliraa> test
[20:10] <BluesKaj> Etriaph, it's a failure of plasma 4 integration with plsama 5/KF5, on some apps
[20:11] <Etriaph> Oh, I know, I'm not complaining, but I used to use Dolphin quite a bit with some crazy places setup :D
[20:18] <BluesKaj> JMichaelX, try launching systemsettings5 from the konsole to see if there are any errors
[20:24] <amari> Is there a way to make Libreoffice menus have a color when the mouse covers them?
[20:28] <mparillo> amari: http://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2015/04/03/#kubuntu-devel.html#t13:28
[20:29] <amari> mparillo: Which log should I check?
[20:30] <amari> mparillo: Just found the log. seems there won't be a fix soon, we can just wait...
[20:34] <MoonUnit`> you can remove libreoffice-kde
[20:53] <chindy> anyone else having troubles settting up konsole shortcut???
[20:55] <chindy> everytime i set it up and press apply/ok and close thie shortcut menue... the Command/URL is gone... what is left is noly trigger and the name.. that thereis supposed to be shortcut...
[20:59] <dizqo> do I need libmtp-runtime or jmtpfs (or both?) for transfering files to my android device through usb?
[21:45] <Taggnostr4> Hello
[21:46] <Taggnostr4> I'm trying to boot from a live USB, but apparently I have some issue with the nouveau drivers, is there a way to use the nvidia ones?
[21:47] <Taggnostr4> When kubuntu starts I see a white and black chessboard and I can't do anything from there
[21:48] <Taggnostr4> This is with a 32 bits live of 14.10
[21:49] <Taggnostr4> With the 64 bits version I can see the desktop background and access the tty, but the rest doesn't work
[21:51] <genii> !nomodeset | Taggnostr4
[21:52] <genii> Taggnostr4: There is not really a way to get the Nvidia proprietary drivers onto the livecd/liveusb, unfortunately
[21:53] <Taggnostr4> Thanks, I'm checking the link
[22:01] <genii> Taggnostr4: The alternative would be to use the minimal install CD ( which puts a commandline system ), from that minimal install to enable the restricted repositories, install all the prerequisites to the nvidia driver ( linux headers, dkms, and build essential) then the driver , reboot, install kubuntu-desktop
[22:02] <Taggnostr4> I tried nomodeset but the screen is still black
[22:02] <Taggnostr4> I'll do another attempt tomorrow
[22:02] <Taggnostr4> Thanks anyway
[22:04] <genii> Taggnostr4: Well, sorry it is being problemmatic, but glad to try and assist.
[22:10] <gunndawg> how can I create a bootable USB stick in 15.04? I used startup disk creator in 14.04 but 15.04 does not have that
[22:13] <dizqo> Taggnostr4: have you tried simply pressing F6 to enable nomodeset? At least this way you can be sure you didn't type it in the wrong place between other boot options. Basically F6, down, down down (highlight nomodeset), Enter
[22:13] <dizqo> (it worked for my old GeForce)
[22:14] <darthanubis> no video in dragonplayer
[22:14] <Taggnostr4> I tried F6 but the only thing it seemed to do was to toggle some output on and off
[22:14] <darthanubis> audio only
[22:15] <Taggnostr4> dizqo, when am I supposed to press it?
[22:15] <dizqo> Taggnostr4: (sorry I meant to clarify this is for when booting the installer cd/usb)
[22:15] <Taggnostr4> After the bios and before grub?
[22:17] <dizqo> Taggnostr4: right after your bios has finished loading (black screen) hold any key and the installing cd/usb should boot into a mode where you can set options. There use F6. This is only for booting from the installation media. I don't know if installing from a safe (nomodeset) environment fixes the problem for future boots from the hard drive though
[22:17] <Taggnostr4> I just tried again, it jumps from the screen with the Kubuntu logo to a log screen with info passing by
[22:19] <genii> gunndawg: The install image is now hybrid, you don't need to do anything tricky, just use dd to directly copy the iso file onto an USB stick
[22:22] <gunndawg> genii: oh really? so just drag the iso image into the usb drive and boot to it?
[22:24] <Taggnostr4> dizqo, I can't get f6 to work
[22:24] <dizqo> Taggnostr4: you need to hold a key(any key) before the kubuntu logo appears and until you see a screen with options. Try holding it right after leaving the bios when the blank screen appears.
[22:24] <genii> gunndawg: No, use command line. So if the image is in your home directory and called foo.iso and the usb you want to boot from is /dev/sdd then in konsole: sudo dd if=foo.iso of=/dev/sdd
[22:24] <Taggnostr4> I'm using unebootin fwiw
[22:25] <Taggnostr4> So after it boots I get its menu
[22:25] <gunndawg> genii: thanks
[22:26] <genii> gunndawg: dd does not have a progress indicator, so after issuing the command, just wait until it returns back to the normal prompt
[22:26] <genii> ( this is normal behaviour)
[22:28] <dizqo> Taggnostr4: hmm maybe you get a grub menu at some point. Basically the time to press (and hold until options appear) the key is right when your pc starts booting the usbkey/dvd where your live desktop/install is. That's earlier than any Kubuntu logo.
[22:29] <dizqo> Taggnostr4: whatever you use to tell your pc to boot not from hard drive but from usb/dvd, be it the bios or grub, it's *right* after this step
[22:31] <dizqo> for me it looks like a black screen with a blinking white underscore at the top left corner and lasts for about 25 seconds (probably because its a dvd, needs to start spinning). I need to hold the key during the whole time to make sure I catch the moment where it looks to check if i'm pressing a key or not
[22:31] <Taggnostr4> I now tried to keep the space bar pressed, it just kept beeping until I left it, and the unetbootin menu appeared as usual
[22:32] <dizqo> if it beeps, i'm guessing you are still in the bios and have not started to boot yet
[22:33] <dizqo> can you make sure that you are booting the live media, and not from hard drive?
[22:33] <Taggnostr4> Yes
[22:33] <Taggnostr4> I disabled the HD from the bios
[22:34] <darthanubis> wonder if baloo_file was fixed. Lets see if it ever stops scanning
[22:34] <Taggnostr4> If I press shift I can get into the grub menu
[22:36] <dizqo> ok so there is grub on your live media, I'm really not sure but i would try to get into the grub menu, select the standard option and hold any key from there for as long as it takes (maybe a minutes)
[22:37] <kairox> hello every one how can i remove the plasma 5.2.2 desktop because i face some probleme with it and i want ot reinstall in again
[22:37] <dizqo> i can be a bit ocd, so I sometimes quickly lift my finger and press it back down every 5-10 seconds to make sure the key press is registered and all
[22:37] <Taggnostr4> Grub is on the HD, not sure about the live usb
[22:38] <dizqo> Taggnostr4: well if grub is only on the HD, you shouldn't even see it if you are actually booting from the live media
[22:38] <kairox> hello every one how can i remove the plasma 5.2.2 desktop because i face some probleme with it and i want ot reinstall in again
[22:39] <Taggnostr4> Yes, I can only see with the HD enabled
[22:41] <darthanubis> plasma 5.3 beta crashes 10x a day
[22:41] <darthanubis> at least
[22:41] <dizqo> You should re-do the steps to pick the dvd/usb drive in the bios and boot your install media. as soon as it's actually leaving the bios screen(s) and reading from the external media is when you press any key. no grub involved.
[22:46] <darthanubis> can anyone even logout?
[22:48] <igor_> hi all
[22:48] <darthanubis> hi
[22:48] <igor_> should i install amd proprietary drivers?
[22:49] <igor_> r2 graphics APU
[22:49] <igor_> i dont want to break OS
[22:49] <igor_> 15.04
[22:49] <igor_> kubuntu
[22:50] <pkulas> Kubuntu works fine after update to plasma 5.3, but I see same bugs thought..
[22:51] <pkulas> Any1 else can confirm this dolphin bug I have
[22:52] <pkulas> try open some text files with default kate by dolphin, can't open more than 2, when 2 opened dolphin freeze and need to close 1 tab at kate to fix it
[22:57] <gunndawg> how can I find out where my USB stick is mounted? I'm pretty sure its /dev/sdd but how do I check?
[22:59] <stoocot> pkulas: I have the same problem, also 5.3 from backports
[22:59] <pkulas> stoocot : I had this problem also with 5.2.2
[22:59] <genii> gunndawg: To clarify: sdd is the entire disk, sdd1,sdd2 and so on are partitions on that disk. For the dd command, you use the sdd which is not a partition
[23:11] <amundsen> hi
[23:11] <amundsen> firefox has some gtk icons in 15.04
[23:12] <amundsen> never had this troble before with kubuntu
[23:17] <pkulas> ok reported this problem with Dolphin, I hope i posted it at good place.
[23:26] <darthanubis> pkulas: I can't believe it
[23:27] <darthanubis> I have it as well plasma 5.2
[23:27] <darthanubis> KDEInit could not launch '/usr/bin/kate'
[23:27] <pkulas> dartanubis : I can't believe that no1 discovered it before :D
[23:27] <Hairo> i have it as well
[23:27] <Hairo> but is not consistent
[23:28] <Hairo> i get it once in a while
[23:28] <pkulas> I got it everytime
[23:28] <Hairo> and kate works fine
[23:28] <Hairo> so it's just a minor annoyance
[23:29] <darthanubis> well, if I wanted quality control, I'd have stayed with Debian
[23:30] <pkulas> quality control with very old software you mean :)
[23:30] <darthanubis> you must not know what you are doing
[23:30] <darthanubis> thats an OLD meme
[23:32] <darthanubis> even if it were still true, we are all here dealing with buggy new software
[23:32] <darthanubis> how many hours here instead of being productive using the system?
[23:34] <pkulas> Yeah, but some software just call for update
[23:35] <darthanubis> and then I update it
[23:35] <pkulas> I tried few times Debian but never liked it, more problems than benefit for me
[23:35] <darthanubis> plasma 5 will be great, but maybe it isn't yet on kubuntu
[23:35] <darthanubis> "problems"
[23:35] <darthanubis> it's not for everybody
[23:36] <darthanubis> but here we are, still problems
[23:36] <darthanubis> text editor can't open more than two files
[23:36] <darthanubis> cmon
[23:36] <darthanubis> thats silly
[23:36] <darthanubis> I wish I hadn't seen that
[23:36] <darthanubis> now I have to rethink my system. But thank you for pointing it out
[23:37] <Hairo> wat
[23:38] <Hairo> aside from the occasional kdeinit error kate works fine
[23:38] <pkulas> as long you don't open these files by Dolphin
[23:38] <Hairo> i'm only using dolphin
[23:38] <pkulas> It's not a big trouble
[23:38] <Hairo> been using it since beta2
[23:39] <pkulas> Yes but you can just open Kate then open files by it interface
[23:39] <pkulas> that's what I mean
[23:39] <Hairo> i'm opening file with dolphin
[23:39] <Hairo> i get the error dialog but it launchs anyway
[23:39] <Hairo> *opening the files
[23:40] <stoocot> had this problem a few weeks ago but I didn't open files one after another so coincidence was hard to catch
[23:40] <ralgozino> drag & drop works fine too
[23:41] <ralgozino> I've never noticed this bug untill now, wierd one indeed
[23:42] <pkulas> +1 for drag &drop
[23:42] <ralgozino> https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=339094
[23:43] <pkulas> Oh I didn't notice this
[23:43] <ralgozino> seems to be fixed: https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=339094#c15
[23:43] <pkulas> And make new1 instead
[23:47] <stoocot> as I see dolphin is still kde4 app
[23:53] <amari> In kubuntu 15.04 my laptop doesn't keep the brightness settings after reboot. Does anyone have a fix for this? Is it general or happens only in some configurations?
[23:57] <pkulas> amari : Need to use xbacklight or similar app and add it to startup
[23:57] <pkulas> amari : I have same issue every distro and didn't find a fix yet
[23:58] <stoocot> brightness is restored to the level set under "systemsettings->energy saving" I set it to 50%
|
ubuntu-chat
|
2024-05-13T22:11:15.501210
| 2015-04-26T00:00:00 |
{
"license": "Public Domain",
"authors": [
"Aristide",
"Avihay_work",
"BluesKaj",
"CodeBot3000",
"Etriaph",
"Hairo",
"Irish_Canon",
"JMichaelX",
"Kaliraa",
"LogicalDash",
"Longbottom",
"Marquel",
"MoonUnit`",
"Neuhristide",
"Obyone",
"Obyone__",
"PercyB",
"PhilippeP",
"Shurtagul",
"Taggnostr4",
"Unit193",
"Zerkalerka",
"alvin",
"amari",
"amundsen",
"assurbanipal",
"bazhang",
"chindy",
"darthanubis",
"dizqo",
"ejay",
"genii",
"gunndawg",
"hexch",
"hyper_ch",
"igor_",
"jason_",
"jiyuhen",
"jubo2",
"jubodrei",
"juboxi",
"kairox",
"lolmaus",
"lolmaus_",
"lordievader",
"luc4",
"luc4_kubuntu",
"mefisto",
"mparillo",
"murthy",
"personal",
"pho_",
"pkulas",
"ralgozino",
"reborn",
"rosner",
"sithlord48",
"stoocot",
"tuv0k",
"whiteda"
],
"url": "https://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2015/04/26/%23kubuntu.txt",
"channel": "#kubuntu"
}
|
2015-04-26-#snappy
|
[11:19] <slangasek> asac: pull 3> I did back out image #3 from the 15.04/stable channel for armhf, yes
[11:19] <slangasek> asac: asac as for the upgrade path, I'll certainly check this out asap
|
ubuntu-chat
|
2024-05-13T22:11:15.507079
| 2015-04-26T00:00:00 |
{
"license": "Public Domain",
"authors": [
"slangasek"
],
"url": "https://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2015/04/26/%23snappy.txt",
"channel": "#snappy"
}
|
2015-04-26-#ubuntu-za
|
[08:05] <stickyboy> gremble: sup
[08:10] <Kilos> hi stickyboy gremble
[08:13] <stickyboy> Kilos: https://nairobilug.or.ke/2015/04/ramping-up-ethiopia-lug.html
[08:13] <stickyboy> Fresh off the press...
[08:19] <gremble> Hey Kilos
[08:21] <Kilos> hmm... stickyboy
[08:21] <Kilos> you mentioned -za but not -africa
[08:21] <Kilos> why do i battle so
[08:22] <Kilos> but well written post
[08:23] <Kilos> you with all your ways of getting info out there can do wonders for the connecting africa project
[08:23] <Kilos> im not an advertising junkie
[08:25] <Kilos> in all the lugs there are ubuntu users whether it be on personal pcs , work pcs , or servers
[08:25] <Kilos> pull them out for us man
[08:25] <stickyboy> Kilos: Just be glad I mentioned Ubuntu more than once. ;)
[08:26] <Kilos> im gonna shout at you
[08:26] <stickyboy> I'll shout back. :D
[08:26] <Kilos> and i saw one person asking for a beginners linux cd
[08:26] <stickyboy> Your agenda is different than mine. :P
[08:27] <Kilos> what better than ubuntu
[08:27] <Kilos> what is your agenda
[08:28] <Kilos> no shouting allowed on this channel so its your lucky day
[08:28] <Kilos> :D
[08:31] <Kilos> there can only be one agenda, grow linux and supply support
[08:31] * Kilos waits for a clever comment
[08:39] <stickyboy> You guys focus on Ubuntu too much.
[08:40] <stickyboy> I don't care, but for the fact that you claim to be pushing for Linux growth. :D
[08:40] <gremble> This is the ubuntu channel stickyboy :P
[08:40] <stickyboy> All this Ubuntu, LoCo, blah blah.
[08:40] <stickyboy> gremble: Irrelevant. :D
[08:40] <Kilos> well we are ubuntu-za but we dont mind having you guys around
[08:40] <stickyboy> His agenda is Ubuntu. :)
[08:40] <stickyboy> ubuntu-africa...
[08:41] <gremble> :P
[08:41] <stickyboy> I don't care, but you shouldn't pretend to be about pushing Linux.
[08:41] <stickyboy> If you want to be Ubuntu, be Ubuntu.
[08:41] <stickyboy> But don't pretend it's some grand, common vision.
[08:41] <stickyboy> You guys are VERY deep inside Ubuntu ecosystem.
[08:41] <Kilos> nono you missing the point completely
[08:41] <stickyboy> And kinda like fanboys.
[08:42] <gremble> Not necessarily
[08:42] <stickyboy> gremble: Hrm.
[08:42] <stickyboy> "nairobilug
[08:42] <stickyboy> "
[08:42] <stickyboy> "ubuntu-africa"... "ubuntu-za"
[08:42] <gremble> There are quite a few here that don't use Ubuntu, like me :P
[08:42] <stickyboy> "ugandalug"
[08:42] <Kilos> the point is to strengthen all linux in africa but we just started from ubuntu because thats who we are
[08:42] <gremble> I'm just here because it is an active LUG
[08:42] <stickyboy> Kilos: Ok. Fine. :D
[08:42] <gremble> in South Africa
[08:42] <stickyboy> gremble: It's a LoCo. ;)
[08:42] <stickyboy> Nairobi LUG is a LUG.
[08:43] <gremble> Same shit
[08:43] <stickyboy> Sure.
[08:43] <stickyboy> But you guys gotta reign in the fanboy vibe.
[08:43] <Kilos> lol
[08:43] <stickyboy> Kilos was talking about Ubuntu like Smeagle yesterday.
[08:43] <gremble> :P
[08:43] <stickyboy> My precioussssss.
[08:43] <Kilos> hahaha
[08:43] <stickyboy> And like football fans say "We won the cup" when they're talking about Man U.
[08:43] <stickyboy> ;)
[08:44] <stickyboy> Don't get me wrong, I use Ubuntu on allllll my webserver.
[08:44] <stickyboy> But I'm typing from a Mac where I have installed GNU coreutils cuz BSD coreutils are teh suck.
[08:44] <stickyboy> That's #winning for GNU software.
[08:44] <stickyboy> And that's part of the mission.
[08:44] <stickyboy> Also, sleeping on couches.
[08:45] <gremble> I need a new computer :/
[08:45] <Kilos> lol
[08:45] <stickyboy> Kilos: Did you see my reference to that on the post?
[08:45] <Kilos> yes to here
[08:45] <stickyboy> :P
[08:45] <Kilos> and sleeping on couches is good
[08:45] <Kilos> makes you appreciate getting home to your bed
[08:46] <Kilos> the only way to dethrone ms is if we all work together worldwide
[08:47] <Kilos> not in individual groups
[08:47] <Kilos> i even tried centos
[08:47] <Kilos> eeek
[08:49] <Kilos> we need to look beyong our borders and think of pulling in the office jack and school kids etc not just die hard linux users
[08:49] <Kilos> s/beyong/beyond
[08:50] <Kilos> am i wrong?
[08:53] <Kilos> i dont mind if you use redhat or arch as long as we have one common goal
[09:02] <gremble> emacs is weird :(
[09:07] <stickyboy> Kilos: My goal isn't to dethrone Microsoft. :P
[09:07] <stickyboy> I just want to promote free, libre, open-source software.
[09:07] <Kilos> and ours?
[09:07] <stickyboy> ;)
[09:07] <Kilos> same thing and only together will it be achieved
[10:36] <Kilos> haha i can get good laughs from reading logs
[10:37] <Kilos> the interaction between pro and i is sometimes hilarious
[10:38] <Kilos> morning superfly
[12:16] <superfly> afternoon Kilos
[12:22] <inetpro> good mornings
[12:22] <inetpro> oh and hi superfly
[12:22] <Kilos> hi fly inetpro
[12:22] <inetpro> and eh Kilos
[12:23] * Kilos the afterthought
[12:23] <Kilos> mn revenge is sweet
[12:23] <Kilos> nm eiyher
[12:24] <inetpro> uh
[12:24] <Kilos> euther
[12:24] <Kilos> ai!
[12:24] <Kilos> either
[12:25] <inetpro> Kilos: I said good mornings to you before I greeted the fly
[12:27] <Kilos> where
[12:28] <Kilos> time and date
[12:29] <inetpro> Kilos: 04/26 14:22:27 <inetpro> good mornings
[12:31] <Kilos> thats to all lurkers
[12:32] <superfly> Hi inetpro
[12:33] * inetpro thought ubuntu-za = Kilos
[12:33] <Kilos> well you didnt state ubuntu-za either
[12:34] <Kilos> mornings includes fedora/redhat/arch and other lurkers
[12:35] <Kilos> i wish monkey could come back he might enjoy the remix with openbox
[12:36] <Kilos> how are you inetpro my friend ?
[12:36] <Kilos> that includes family
[12:37] <inetpro> all good thank you
[12:37] <Kilos> and i looked today again at the beautiful blue eyes
[12:37] <inetpro> Kilos: yourself?
[12:37] <Kilos> im fine ty sir
[12:37] <Kilos> i just struggled when peeps attack my preciouuuus
[12:38] <Kilos> 10:43] <stickyboy> My precioussssss.
[12:38] <Kilos> hehe
[12:41] <Kilos> hi spinza
[12:42] <Kilos> superfly why is there a yahoo login by them flickr pics
[12:42] <Kilos> is flickr a yahoo thing
[12:44] <Kilos> and here that looks like ian with the kids
[12:44] <Kilos> https://www.flickr.com/photos/who_da_fly/15582309341/in/photostream/
[13:04] <superfly> Kilos: Yes, Yahoo owns Flickr
[13:05] <Kilos> aha ty
[13:05] <superfly> It's about the only product they have that actually makes money
[13:05] <Kilos> lol
[13:28] <Kilos> hi melodie
[13:29] <melodie> salut Kilos !
[13:29] <Kilos> hehe
[13:29] <melodie> how are you?
[13:29] <Kilos> im good ty and you?
[13:32] <Kilos> ive been lazy today
[13:37] <melodie> ok
[13:38] <melodie> Kilos I'm good and got up very late
[13:38] <Kilos> you also went to bed very late
[13:39] <Kilos> so much to do and so little time
[13:39] <melodie> and lots of talking too, and watching a serie before sleeping also, all takes time! :D
[13:40] <Kilos> whew
[13:40] <georgelappies> hi Kilos
[13:40] <Kilos> hi georgelappies
[13:51] <melodie> hi georgelappies
[13:52] <Kilos> georgelappies meet melodie from the south of france
[13:52] <georgelappies> hi melodie
[13:52] <melodie> where are you from georgelappies ?
[13:53] <georgelappies> I am from Secunda, about 200km east of Johannesburg
[13:54] <georgelappies> https://www.google.co.za/maps/place/Secunda/@-26.5159425,29.1984939,13z/data=!3m1!4b1!4m2!3m1!1s0x1eeb12dc232c6f9b:0xd5e8665e3c84809?hl=en
[13:55] <melodie> so South Africa as Kilos ?
[13:55] <Kilos> yes
[13:56] <Kilos> only a few others here
[13:56] <georgelappies> the town's claim to fame is the largest coal to liquid petroleum refinery in the world ;p
[13:56] <georgelappies> yeah same as Kilos
[13:57] <georgelappies> although I suspect that Kilos is from a more buzling metropolis in South Africa
[13:58] <Kilos> lol
[13:59] <melodie> georgelappies your town produces petroleum?
[13:59] <Kilos> petrol from coal melodie
[13:59] <Kilos> and other byproducts
[14:00] <melodie> is it to be a special coal?
[14:00] <Kilos> no only lots of it
[14:00] <georgelappies> well among other things, they take coal and make all sort of stuff out of it. Mainly diesel / petrol though
[14:00] <melodie> what do you use in your kitchen to cook? electricity?
[14:01] <Kilos> they also have the refineries of all our imported crude oil i think
[14:02] <georgelappies> Sasol (the company running the factory) was the first in the world to economically execute this process: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fischer%E2%80%93Tropsch_process
[14:02] <Kilos> georgelappies you ever get bored?
[14:02] * superfly has been to Secunda
[14:02] <melodie> diesel, coal, petroleum, are all bringing riches to a country, and in the meantime pollute and will bring the same countries to be extremely poor when it will run out of supplies one day future
[14:02] <Kilos> yip
[14:02] <georgelappies> melodie, I use gas but in South Africa that is not the norm. The norm is to use electricity for everything
[14:03] <georgelappies> lol, never Kilos. Always something to do
[14:03] <melodie> georgelappies I am in touch with an non for profit who deals with alternative ways, they teach the making of cookers using directly the sun for instance, and other things
[14:03] <Kilos> oh ok , im looking for someone to test melodie s remix
[14:04] <georgelappies> s remix?
[14:04] <melodie> possibly some people creating fablabs and making them cookers would create themselves a nice job
[14:04] <melodie> georgelappies yes! let me show you
[14:04] <Kilos> openbox and ubuntu
[14:04] <melodie> top post: http://linuxvillage.org/en/
[14:04] <melodie> openbox and ubuntu made especially easy to use
[14:05] <Kilos> melodie we are slowly adding wind power generators and so on
[14:05] <melodie> Kilos big ones or small ones?
[14:05] <Kilos> big
[14:06] <melodie> you have people with tech skills in your country, don't you?
[14:06] <Kilos> and very large solar generators
[14:06] <Kilos> we have the best
[14:06] <melodie> I have seen the use of the Stirling engine on plate shaped solar generators
[14:06] <Kilos> but silicon valley keeps stealing from us
[14:06] <melodie> of course, it was supposed to be available ! in 2011 :-(
[14:07] <superfly> because the south african government is too stupid to realise the talent in their own back yard
[14:07] <melodie> then the company having the patents closed, the patents bought by I don't know who...
[14:07] <superfly> they would rather import chinese tech than promote innovation in RSA
[14:07] <melodie> superfly same in France... all nuts and clowns in the governement
[14:07] <Kilos> lol
[14:07] <georgelappies> very true superfly
[14:08] * superfly works for a startup that exported their tech to the UK
[14:08] <superfly> I know a little bit about this.
[14:09] <georgelappies> that is the chinese way of doing bussiness, "let us build you a bridge / dam / school 'for free' and in exchange you provide us with 10mega tons of coal every year for ten years"
[14:11] <georgelappies> governments in Africa are selling resources that do not belong to them (it belongs to the nation and future generations) at dirt cheap prices in exchange for providing China with expansion and work opportunities in Africa
[14:11] <georgelappies> anyhow, enough politics
[14:11] <georgelappies> what is everybody up to on this Sunday afternoon?
[14:12] <superfly> latest release of my open source project
[14:12] <superfly> busy writing up the release notes
[14:12] <georgelappies> what is it superfly? link please ;)
[14:12] <superfly> http://openlp.org/
[14:14] <Kilos> melodie how well do you know gsilve
[14:14] <Kilos> gsilva
[14:16] <georgelappies> superfly, that is very cool
[14:16] <superfly> ta
[14:17] <melodie> well he is someone I have known for a few months now, perhaps more than a year even. He had once offered to take care of the com for Bento, then had to give up for he was on something else, and now he is back and has started to take parts of it in charge
[14:17] <melodie> what is it you want to know exactly?
[14:18] <Kilos> well if he could sort th e lubuntu wiki pages i was wondering if he could take on the main ubuntu pages as well
[14:18] <Kilos> slowly of course
[14:18] <Kilos> will be a strong point in his favour for membership
[14:19] <Kilos> some of our pages are years out ot date
[14:19] <melodie> Kilos well, I am not a member and I don't have many people helping on a regular basis, and on the other side, he is very busy
[14:19] <Kilos> thats what i wanted to know ty
[14:20] <melodie> I am leading a very original project and very difficult to make people understand how it can hold together
[14:20] <Kilos> everyone is just too busy
[14:20] <melodie> we all need new energies
[14:20] <melodie> :)
[14:20] <Kilos> lol yeah
[14:20] <melodie> do you have a mailing list for ubuntu-africa ?
[14:21] <Kilos> yes on um
[14:21] <Kilos> launchpad
[14:21] <melodie> ok
[14:21] <Kilos> it should show a link in the site
[14:22] <melodie> having new people help can be a matter of showing the doings ongoing and let the people ask what they can do to help
[14:22] <melodie> or write it down
[14:22] <melodie> well thinking of...
[14:23] <melodie> Kilos perhaps do you need to define the types of job leaders in your team
[14:23] <Kilos> https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-africa
[14:24] <Kilos> no i dont think so melodie at the moment i am still trying to get all the countries together
[14:24] <superfly> Kilos is the leader
[14:24] <superfly> the rest of us are just worker bees
[14:24] <Kilos> rofl
[14:24] <melodie> Kilos if you use a linear approach you might loose precious opportunities talking about volunteers
[14:25] <melodie> if you use a vertical approach you would not be gathering the countries of the continent, that would not be as good either
[14:26] <Kilos> i was thinking of first of all throwing them all in a pot and giving it a good shake and then see what comes out first
[14:26] <melodie> what you could do would be use a transversal approach as you already have several countries gathered and by doing so you may have the people from other countries interested to jump into the project as seeing the opportunities and ideas beyond the gathering fact
[14:27] <Kilos> oh yes elacheche is already doing the top end
[14:27] <melodie> superfly I am going to take a look at your project, I was waiting for the page to open
[14:27] <superfly> melodie: no problem :-)
[14:27] <melodie> Kilos I mean, if you list the types of skills needed for the project, on your wiki, that could be a good thing
[14:28] <melodie> wiki care taker, comm care taker and so on
[14:28] <Kilos> oh i see what you mean
[14:28] <Kilos> well you want to join us and see what can be done?
[14:29] <Kilos> i am a mechanic and farmer
[14:29] <Kilos> not many skills needed to get sheep and cows where you want them
[14:30] <melodie> superfly is that your work only or is it part of the startup you work for?
[14:30] <Kilos> oh we have a wiki caretaker
[14:30] <Kilos> inetpro does that
[14:30] <melodie> very good!
[14:30] <superfly> melodie: I do that in my "spare" time - my startup is different
[14:32] <melodie> then you might want to start the list on a draft, and write who takes care of what and let the empty fields for the jobs to be taken. You would need to organise a special dedicated meeting on irc for the people on #ubuntu-africa to assist to, to all talk about that together and let the ideas get out and sparkle
[14:32] <melodie> superfly what does your startup do?
[14:32] <melodie> Kilos as a mecanics, have you heard about the open source wiki for building things by yourself?
[14:33] <melodie> eco something, does that ring a bell?
[14:33] <superfly> melodie: http://nomanini.com - we provide a platform and a POS to sell prepaid services
[14:33] * superfly mostly works on the management platform
[14:33] <melodie> is it an open source pos ?
[14:33] <Kilos> nope
[14:33] <superfly> nope, but it's not particularly complicated either
[14:34] <Kilos> mechanics only use the inetrnet to find parts for cars
[14:34] <melodie> Kilos you have here a whole community you would want to share with all the Ubuntu African communities, and plan to open FabLabs everywhere:
[14:34] <melodie> http://opensourceecology.org/wiki/Main_Page
nope, but it's not particularly complicated either || what is?
[14:35] <melodie> Kilos allow me to quote the main part of the opensourceecology wiki here:
[14:35] <melodie> “Open Source Ecology is accelerating the growth of the next economy - the Open Source Economy - an economy that optimizes both production and distribution - while promoting environmental regeneration and social justice. We are building the Global Village Construction Set. This is a high-performance, modular, do-it-yourself, low-cost platform - that allows for the easy fabrication of the 50 different industrial machines that it takes - to build
[14:35] <melodie> a small, sustainable civilization with modern comforts. ”
[14:36] <melodie> this is full Open Source, Free plans and methods to create numerous things for the farmers, the growsers, the small local industry and also the people
[14:36] <melodie> in France we start to have fablabs here and there and they allow people to go, and get an object done when there is no replacement for spare parts, for instance
[14:37] <Kilos> ok
[14:37] <melodie> the 3D printers are becoming so fashionable even our governement is planning to put a copy tax on them ! :-[
[14:37] <melodie> Kilos when I visited this wiki, I found it mind blowing!
[14:39] <Kilos> whew superfly and inetpro must look at that, half of it i dont understand
[14:39] <superfly> melodie: it's a electronic device that has some stock management firmware on it. it's hardly a new idea, or a something complicated to set up.
[14:39] <Kilos> i can chat on irc and answer emails
[14:41] <melodie> Kilos I don't get into the details I don't understand either, it's mechanics and plans, things out of my reach, but to put it simply what it is about:
[14:43] <melodie> you get a large place to keep machines and material, and have people come there ; you create a non for profit association and make money which is used to by hardware, pay the charges and pay some people of the association who get a salary : on the other end, are people who come build what they need, using the plans. and they have their needed material for a cost much lower than in the current market
[14:43] <melodie> to by/to buy
[14:43] <melodie> sorry
[14:44] <Kilos> oh you mean with 3d printers
[14:44] <melodie> it's kind of a geek garage if you want to summarise
[14:44] <melodie> the 3D printers is only one kind of tool there are other tools too
[14:44] <melodie> I'll try to show you:
[14:45] <Kilos> inetpro look man
[14:45] <melodie> a very basic need in creation of tools is a metal melting furnace:
[14:45] <melodie> http://opensourceecology.org/wiki/Induction_Furnace
[14:46] <melodie> in the section "Details" you can read what it does:
[14:46] <melodie> "The advantage of the induction furnace is a clean, energy-efficient and well-controllable melting process compared to most other means of metal melting."
[14:46] <Kilos> yes i inderstand that
[14:46] <melodie> the rest is out of my reach and concern, I have provided here the summary for this part
[14:47] <melodie> once you have melted metal from cans or whatever metal that costs nothing that can be gathered, you can poor the metal in some molds to make what you need
[14:47] <Kilos> i understand the mechanical things well, just remember we are in power and cash crisis time in za
[14:48] <melodie> Kilos this situation is everywhere
[14:48] <melodie> the whole world
[14:48] <Kilos> i used to make molds for car body parts when i was at nissan za
[14:48] <melodie> see? you have incredible skills
[14:48] <Kilos> jigs is the correct word
[14:48] <melodie> and you also know how to gather people :D
[14:49] <Kilos> lol
[14:49] <melodie> jigs? Instead of?
[14:49] <Kilos> molds
[14:49] <melodie> oh?
[14:49] <Kilos> actually molds is right for the molten metal
[14:49] <melodie> Kilos so now you have a new exploration field with the ecology opensource wiki, but... well it's not the end !
[14:50] <melodie> I got something else in the magic bag ! :D
[14:50] <Kilos> then the sheets you get from there go into jigs to stamp out the parts you need
[14:50] <Kilos> nono girl you exploding my head
[14:50] <melodie> yes, that's technic, not my concern. I don't produce, I don't "make"
[14:50] <melodie> Kilos what about a video then? that can be resting? :D
[14:51] <melodie> a video about the next topic, the modern ways of using animals at work?
[14:51] <Kilos> no data for videos, your remix ate that
[14:51] <Kilos> one step at a time
[14:51] <melodie> yes the next remix will have the codecs for the sound and the video, this one doesn't
[14:52] <Kilos> i have 14.04 kubuntu that can do anything
[14:52] <Kilos> only data restrains me
[14:52] <melodie> videos on youtube don't need much to work now, without flash
[14:52] <Kilos> and my head
[14:52] <melodie> you need to install firefox
[14:52] <melodie> and in firefox add the plugin html5
[14:53] <Kilos> nono i dont like firefox
[14:53] <Kilos> i use chrome epiphany and opera browser
[14:54] <Kilos> i also dont look at youtube videos
[14:55] <melodie> there are more and more fashionable for communication
[14:55] <Kilos> but drop your link here someone will go see and tell me about it
[14:55] <melodie> people want to watch videos rather than reading texts and images in tutorials for example, or see conferences rather than going far to attend to them and many more things
[14:55] <melodie> ok
[14:58] <stickyboy> Ask me if I just bought 4 KGs of coffee in Addis.
[14:58] <Kilos> lol
[14:59] <melodie> http://hippotese.free.fr/blog/
[15:00] <Kilos> we were farming that way 200 years ago
[15:00] <Kilos> some small farmers still do
[15:01] <Kilos> the mule needs good grass and lots of it
[15:01] <Kilos> no grass here in winter
[15:03] <Kilos> and try guiding that plow for 2 hours only, never mind every day for a month
[15:03] <melodie> the people in several non for profit, present on these pages the tools which have been improved since the old times, as they are issued from a mix between improved engines traction, maths doing, and lots of testing
[15:04] <melodie> the main page is a bit messy because they don't use categories or any kind of sitemap on this blog, but it was an improvement compared to their old website:
[15:04] <melodie> http://hippotese.free.fr/
[15:05] <melodie> my bad they have categories
[15:05] <Kilos> ive been there and done those things
[15:06] <Kilos> after a day of plowing you struggle to get out of bed the next morning
[15:06] <melodie> they also have small carriages where the man is sitting while the horse pulls
[15:06] <melodie> they are expensive to buy also
[15:07] <Kilos> i used to own horses too
[15:07] <Kilos> friesian and arab
[15:07] <melodie> for the horses they have invented special parts which lowers the effort of the animal and allows it to provide up to 25% more result
[15:07] <melodie> friesian are the big black ones with curly hair?
[15:08] <Kilos> not curly hair but black yes and they are big
[15:08] <melodie> well I know it's very physical, true. I have learned horse carriage and have even a diploma
[15:08] <Kilos> good for pulling carts
[15:08] <melodie> yes, very good
[15:08] <melodie> I think they are what in French we name "frisons"
[15:09] <melodie> I didn't know the name in English
[15:09] <Kilos> maybe ill try find them
[15:09] <Kilos> there are many stud breeders in za
[15:09] <melodie> ok
[15:09] <Kilos> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Friesian_horse
[15:10] <melodie> I see in the hippotese blog there is a link to translate google on the right side, to have the blog in English: "Translate in english"
[15:10] <Kilos> beautiful animals
[15:11] <melodie> yes! https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Frison_%28cheval%29
[15:11] <melodie> I got it right about the word in French
[15:12] <Kilos> nice
[15:13] <Kilos> and the arabs just want to run
[15:13] <Kilos> same as racehorses
[15:13] <Kilos> well thats where racehorses come from iirc
[15:14] <melodie> exactly
[15:14] <melodie> the arabian horses are used to improve/modify other races of horses
[15:14] <melodie> such as the fjord
[15:14] <melodie> or the merens
[15:16] <Kilos> i crossed them and the result was excellent intelligent horses for herding sheep and cattle
[15:17] <Kilos> and not scared to give a lazy bull a bitr on the bum to get him moving
[15:17] <Kilos> bite
[15:19] <melodie> oh! are you sure you haven't bread them with some shepperd dog? XD
[15:19] <melodie> nice!
[15:19] <Kilos> lol
[15:19] <melodie> so did you bread friasian with arabian?
[15:19] <Kilos> yes
[15:19] <melodie> what kind of arabian had you exactly?
[15:19] <Kilos> haha a black mare
[15:20] <melodie> ok
[15:20] <Kilos> and some other boerperde
[15:20] <melodie> if that's a breed
[15:20] <melodie> "boerperde" ?
[15:20] <melodie> what is perde or boerperde ?
[15:20] <Kilos> http://www.saboerperd.com/
[15:20] * melodie is reading parts of http://opensourceecology.org/wiki/Bioplastics
[15:20] <Kilos> perd is afrikaans for horse
[15:21] <melodie> clicked on your link waiting
[15:22] <Kilos> mine is open long time
[15:22] <Kilos> fix your connection
[15:22] <melodie> they look very beautiful, especially the black with grey hair
[15:22] <melodie> it's ok I'm putting it into translate google now
[15:23] <Kilos> http://www.theequinest.com/breeds/boerperd/
[15:23] <Kilos> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boer_pony
[15:24] <Kilos> very tough horses, often used for marathons here
[15:25] <stickyboy> Kilos: Do South Africans despise Africa?
[15:25] <Kilos> no stickyboy why
[15:26] <stickyboy> Kilos: I hear stories about people leaving SA, like Kenyans, and people say "Oh, you're going back to Africa".
[15:26] <Kilos> am i not talking to you?
[15:26] <melodie> stickyboy where are you from?
[15:26] <stickyboy> And some DJ has a shoutout on the Kenyan radio like, "Hey this is DJ blah blah from the motherland Africa -- well, South Africa -- blah blah"
[15:26] <Kilos> there are a few hundred hooligans the used xenophobia as an excuse to loot the shops
[15:27] <melodie> Kilos http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boer_pony
[15:27] <stickyboy> melodie: I'm from the USA, I live in Kenya, and I'm currently in Addis Ababa drinking the best coffee in the world. :P
[15:27] <melodie> is that the boerperd you were talking about, or is it rather what they refer to as "Cape Boerperd" ?
[15:28] <melodie> stickyboy who here cares about the xenophobes? I have asked Kilos to do a special meditation before sleeping about an idea related to a "foss country" or that kind! :D
[15:29] <stickyboy> "Outgroup hostility" happens in every country.
[15:29] <stickyboy> People get weird about money.
[15:29] <melodie> stickyboy about coffee I'll grab a cup. Well do they have organic coffee in Addis Ababa?
[15:29] <stickyboy> It has nothing to do about Africa or whatever. I hate that "we are all Africans" shit.
[15:30] <melodie> people can be or get weird about mostly anything
[15:30] <Kilos> there is a boerperd breeders organization and they often share or sell stallions to each other to improve the breed
[15:31] <melodie> superfly I have looked at the website of your company, and I don't quite see who are their clients?
[15:32] <melodie> and what is it they call "airtime" ?
[15:32] <Kilos> airtime is the cash you pay for cell phones
[15:33] <melodie> ok
[15:33] <Kilos> to keep them on the air that is
[15:33] <melodie> you mean the card ?
[15:33] <melodie> the time you will be able to spend using the phone?
[15:34] <Kilos> the money you put on the sim card
[15:34] <melodie> the connection then
[15:34] <melodie> ok
[15:34] <Kilos> yes the connection fee
[15:34] <melodie> I'll brb, have to fetch wood for the stove
[15:34] <melodie> begins to be cold here
[15:34] <Kilos> ok
[15:59] <melodie> superfly from this video, https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=qAXHtaDafn8 is it that the device allows being paid with the the NFC feature of the phones? Or have I not understood it all?
[16:01] <superfly> melodie: is for cash based transactions. Our target market is Africa, which has a distinct lack of smart phones
[16:04] <melodie> aha
[16:05] <melodie> I saw this client in the video with the phone in his hand, so he was probably just buying airtime for his phone?
[16:06] <melodie> superfly the part which I don't understand now, is that the shop helder obviously has a full fledged POS besides the small nomanini, so why can't he use the same POS for all the kinds of transations?
[16:06] <melodie> what is special about nomanini in fact?
[16:07] <melodie> besides the flashy colors and the ease to use? :)
[16:07] <superfly> In short : a lot.
[16:07] <superfly> On my phone with a baby in my arms. A bit difficult to type
[16:08] <superfly> And the other is not a POS, it's a cash register
[16:08] <Kilos> melodie https://www.flickr.com/photos/who_da_fly/page1/
[16:09] * Kilos dunno what a POS is
[16:09] <melodie> superfly 12 buttons means 12 kinds of products pre-registered in the terminal?
[16:09] <melodie> *that can be
[16:10] <superfly> Kilos: point of sale
[16:10] <melodie> superfly over here in France the POS and cash register are all in one
[16:10] <Kilos> ty
[16:10] <superfly> melodie: Yes, but this is Africa, not France
[16:10] <melodie> superfly so I am trying to understand how all that works
[16:11] <melodie> have you heard about lemonpos ?
[16:11] <melodie> it's a gpl'd pos
[16:12] <superfly> melodie: Sorry, I'm sick in bed at the moment. I'll be happy to answer all your questions when I'm back at my PC
[16:13] <melodie> superfly oh, sorry!
[16:13] <melodie> take good care and fast recovery!
[16:14] <superfly> melodie: in short: in Africa there is no (or bad) Internet, no smartphones, and few computers.
[16:15] <melodie> I have helped a non for profit last september, here in South West France, prepare computers to send to Mali
[16:15] <superfly> And everything is prepaid.
[16:15] <melodie> superfly this guy on the video holds a shop with lots of items, does he put a sticker on each item to have the price on it?
[16:16] <melodie> ok and few computers and bad connections can also mean the cybershops can be numerous
[16:16] <melodie> there is a program meant for managing cybershops, working under Linux, I did a special Bento Mkahawa last year
[16:16] <melodie> I don't know if it has been spread though
[16:17] <melodie> ok, I let you rest, we can talk later, in the next days, no hurry
[17:17] <melodie> does someone here have a machine with uefi and using Ubuntu on it? I would like to try making a Bento Edition with efi-boot packages installed in it and I have no way to test if that would work
[17:36] <Kilos> hmm...
[17:39] <Langjan> Hi Kilos and the team, are you enjoying your long weekend?
[17:40] <Kilos> hi Langjan looks like it hey
[17:40] <Langjan> Or is it a case of no rest for the wicked?
[17:40] <Langjan> Lmga
[17:41] <Kilos> lol
[17:41] <Kilos> werk als?
[17:41] <Langjan> Well aren't you going to ask what have I broken?
[17:42] <Langjan> You beat me to it...
[17:42] <Kilos> ^^
[17:42] <Kilos> hahaha
[17:42] <Langjan> Skaam jou and that after inviting me to drop in and say hello
[17:42] <Langjan> Uitgevang ne
[17:43] <Kilos> lol sorry man, how are you sir
[17:43] <Langjan> Just pulling your highly-pullable leg Kilos, fine thks and you?
[17:43] <Kilos> im good ty very much
[17:44] <Kilos> happy to see all is good there, you had my head spinning the other day
[17:44] <Langjan> Great stuff, and no I have'nt broken anything. Glo dit as jy wil
[17:44] <Kilos> i believe you
[17:44] * inetpro \o/
[17:44] <Kilos> and the pro too
[17:44] <Kilos> haha
[17:44] <inetpro> goeienaand oom Langjan
[17:45] <Langjan> Hi daar inetpro als wel by jou?
[17:45] <inetpro> ten minste nog iemand wat die ander oom kan pla :-)
[17:45] <Langjan> Ja die ou man moet wakker gehou word
[17:46] <Kilos> hahaha
[17:47] <Langjan> Kilos help weer asb
[17:47] <Langjan> Hoe kry jy die name op irc ingetik?
[17:47] <Langjan> het weer vergeet
[17:47] <Langjan> ouderdom
[17:47] <Langjan> probleem is nie oud nie dis die dom
[17:47] <Kilos> jy tik eerste drie letters en slaan tab
[17:48] <Langjan> ine
[17:48] <inetpro> Langjan: so terloops hy het 'n nuwe franse meisie ontmoet... gesels lang stories met haar
[17:48] * inetpro sukkel om op te vang
[17:48] <Langjan> werk nie
[17:48] <Kilos> ai!
[17:48] <Kilos> inetpro
[17:48] <Langjan> ine wat is die tab
[17:48] <inetpro> lol
[17:48] <Kilos> werk hier
[17:48] <Langjan> ine
[17:48] <Kilos> tab is daai ding bo caps lock
[17:48] <inetpro> oops... sorry oom Kilos
[17:48] <Langjan> inetpro,
[17:49] <Langjan> daashy Kilos
[17:49] <Langjan> dankie man
[17:49] <Kilos> mooi oom jy kom reg
[17:49] <Langjan> ek sen daar staan tab
[17:49] <Langjan> sien
[17:49] <Kilos> lol
[17:49] <Langjan> Kilos,
[17:49] <Kilos> inetpro sal se rtfs
[17:49] <Langjan> moi man sal nou onthou
[17:49] <Kilos> of rtfk hier
[17:50] <inetpro> Kilos: nee dit sal wees RTFK
[17:50] <inetpro> snap
[17:50] <Kilos> haha
[17:50] <Langjan> wat is dit?
[17:50] <Langjan> RTFK
[17:50] <Kilos> read the freeking keyboard
[17:50] <inetpro> Maaz: rtfs
[17:50] <Maaz> Read the Freaking Source/Spec/Screen
[17:50] <Langjan> Ek kry sooibrand van al die Ingels
[17:51] <Langjan> Hi Maaz
[17:51] <inetpro> die ander ene is RTFM
[17:51] <inetpro> M = Manual
[17:51] <Langjan> manual
[17:51] <inetpro> of M = man page
[17:51] <Kilos> oom jan het jy n spaar pc waar jy iets kan toets
[17:52] <Kilos> dis 14.04 lyk my maar lyk soos gnome2
[17:52] <Kilos> hier is n tannie hier wat dit bewerk
[17:53] <inetpro> Kilos: hoekom nie net Ubuntu Mate nie?
[17:53] <Langjan> Wel my skootrekenaat loop op 14.04, wat wil jy toets?
[17:53] <Kilos> http://phillw.net/isos/bento-ubuntu-remix/sushi-trusty-rc4-i686-3.13.0-49-2014.04.2.iso
[17:53] <Kilos> sy probeer alle bugs regmaak voor sy dit release
[17:54] <Kilos> melodie learn afrikaans quick
[17:54] <Kilos> langjan is 72
[17:54] <melodie> do I?
[17:54] <inetpro> Kilos: sy sit seker daar en vertaal die hele gesprek :-)
[17:55] <Langjan> Beter so as dat ek sooibrand kry
[17:55] <Langjan> Kil
[17:55] <Kilos> im trying to get him to try bento for you
[17:55] <Kilos> melodie are you wearing out google translate
[17:56] <melodie> Kilos what is to be said about Bento is that it is aiming to be super fast and also to be a very easy basis to make it whatever you need to, ie: internet cafe (done before with mkahawa), install gnome apps, install kde apps, without any trouble and can also be used to make your own remixes that works too
[17:56] <melodie> Kilos "wearing out google translate" ? what does that mean?
[17:56] <Kilos> Langjan ^^
[17:56] <inetpro> sorry melodie but you'll have to translate that to Afrikaans for oom Langjan
[17:56] <Langjan> Kilos, ek gaan nie nou daai iso aflaai nie my data vir die maand loop naby einde en ek het nie nou tyd of lus vir sulke toetse nie
[17:56] <Kilos> translating all the afrikaans
[17:57] <melodie> Langjan I don't know afrikaans at all
[17:57] <Kilos> ok maar spaar die lienk toppie
[17:57] <Langjan> Sounds good MEL BUT NO RIGHT NOW
[17:57] <melodie> I am French and use English to communicate to the rest of the world
[17:57] <Langjan> sorry I ht caps lock instead of tab, melodie
[17:58] <melodie> Kilos what could become soon an issue is the efi/uefi thing, as Bento does not have the packages for it installed, but I'd like to find testers for that then will try install the packages prior to build
[17:58] <inetpro> melodie: oom Langjan is probably the most senior member of our team here
[17:58] <Langjan> Im Afrikaans and use Afrikaans. Even the Japs are learning it now
[17:58] <melodie> Langjan caps-lock day is paste ^^
[17:58] <Kilos> you need someone with new pc then melodie
[17:58] <melodie> Langjan I'm not Jap :-(
[17:58] <Langjan> what does that mean melodie ?
[17:58] <melodie> Kilos and not afraid to do breakage too
[17:59] <Kilos> he breaks things often melodie
[17:59] <melodie> Langjan I am new on the za and africa chans and I have not learned new languages since a long time
[17:59] <Langjan> Die boeremanier, ordentlik
[17:59] <Kilos> but thats good because then he comes here
[17:59] <Langjan> Jy lieg nou
[17:59] <Kilos> lol
[18:00] <Kilos> i love this channel
[18:00] <inetpro> oom Kilos hy gaan jou begin vloek nou
[18:00] <Kilos> nee nee hy dink altyd van die toekoms
[18:00] <Langjan> melodie, im saying Kilos is liar
[18:00] <Kilos> boere are clever people
[18:00] <inetpro> ai!
[18:01] <Langjan> because toonight I came in peace, not in pieces
[18:01] <Kilos> they dont burn bridges they might need to come back over
[18:01] <melodie> is afrikaans a mixture of languages?
[18:01] <melodie> it looks like english, german and northern languages
[18:01] <Kilos> it is what developed from dutch here
[18:01] <Langjan> No, it's the youngest new language in the world
[18:01] <melodie> ^_o
[18:02] <Langjan> Kilos, nou soek jy k.k
[18:02] <Kilos> dutch and english and some other languages too i think
[18:02] <Kilos> ol
[18:02] <Kilos> lol ook
[18:03] <Langjan> That's why the University of Japan has started an Afrikaans faculty
[18:03] <Kilos> Langjan dit you save that link
[18:03] <Langjan> and are working on an Afrikaans / Japanese dictionary, inter alia
[18:03] <Langjan> The iso?
[18:04] <Langjan> No but I will for future reference
[18:04] <Kilos> yes man
[18:04] <Langjan> melodie, is it a good place for new lubuntu users to start?o
[18:04] <inetpro> Rich in idiom and emotion, Afrikaans was born 340 years ago in the homes of South Africa's white Dutch, German and French settlers. Not only is it the world's youngest national language, it is one of the smallest, with just 13 million speakers
[18:04] <Kilos> did you enjoy 10.10 Langjan
[18:05] <melodie> Langjan wait
[18:05] <Langjan> I have a candidate but have contemplated mint for him
[18:05] <Kilos> nono man
[18:05] <Kilos> im running it and it is good
[18:05] <melodie> Langjan he can use Lubuntu, Xubuntu, or Mint, and if the machine has low resources you can try Bento
[18:05] <melodie> the Trusty version will be finished in not long I think
[18:05] <Kilos> and melodie is very helpful with help
[18:05] <melodie> is a RC now
[18:06] <Langjan> Whaats an RC?
[18:06] <inetpro> melodie: what is the size of your ISO?
[18:06] <Kilos> 500
[18:06] <Langjan> remember I'm an old toppie, not used to this jargon
[18:07] <Langjan> RC?
[18:07] <melodie> inetpro it's 455 but a RC does not have all the needed packages yet
[18:07] <melodie> ie : no codecs
[18:07] <melodie> release candidate, testing
[18:07] * inetpro will probably have to test it at some point
[18:07] <inetpro> or I'll never hear the end of it from Kilos
[18:07] <melodie> rc4
[18:07] <Kilos> 469meg inetpro
[18:08] <inetpro> don't have enough data to download but maybe at work later in the week
[18:08] <inetpro> or late at night
[18:09] <Kilos> uses openbox thing over ubuntu
[18:09] <Langjan> melodie, I want him to migrate as effortlessly as possible, he does not have time to mess around with systems, is a serious writer and academic
[18:09] <Kilos> look squite cool too
[18:09] <Langjan> has sufficient resources
[18:10] <inetpro> Langjan: what is he using at the moment?
[18:10] <Kilos> it comes with all the office stuff as default
[18:10] <Langjan> Win, I suspect Win 7
[18:10] <Langjan> not sure
[18:10] <inetpro> hmm...
[18:11] <Kilos> i think the 10.10 interface was easiest to migrate with
[18:11] <Langjan> Perhaps I should check on all his data, resources current OS then get back
[18:11] <Kilos> only the stuff is at the bottom here
[18:12] <inetpro> Langjan: if he has proper hardware I would recommend KDE every day
[18:12] <Kilos> menu button where win start button
[18:13] <melodie> Langjan the best for him is what you know best, because you are the one in charge to help him after migration
[18:13] <melodie> this is the most important thing to know about helping new comers
[18:13] <inetpro> but I would still recommend LTS releases rather than anything else
[18:13] <Langjan> That was in my head also melodie
[18:13] <melodie> if he can ask help on forums ? if he can ask help on chans ? if he can't can you help him as many times as he will need?
[18:14] <melodie> and if he is far can you install tiny-vnc or teamviewer and help him remotely?
[18:14] <melodie> can he learn basic administration, are you going to setup the updates to be automated?
[18:14] <Langjan> Yes except that he is 2 hours from me so yes, teamviewer will be great
[18:14] <Kilos> melody he can install teamviewer and you can help
[18:15] <melodie> do you need to check the frequency updates are going to be setup for him in the gui tool meant for that ?
[18:15] <inetpro> ai!
[18:15] <Kilos> i was planning that but it works good
[18:15] <melodie> Kilos sorry I don't have experience with teamviewer but I guess it should not be difficult to find instructions on the website itself
[18:16] <Langjan> melodie, I need to acquaint myself with auto updates
[18:16] <melodie> https://www.teamviewer.com/en/download/linux.aspx
[18:16] <Kilos> teamviewer is simple
[18:16] <Kilos> you take over the other pc as admin if you know the password
[18:16] <melodie> https://www.teamviewer.com/en/help/index.aspx
[18:17] <melodie> Langjan what if you try Bento remix for yourself, and see if it could fit the need? that's to say if you get along well with it?
[18:17] <inetpro> connections are routed through TeamViewer GmbH's router network
[18:17] <melodie> I have installed it to several end user's machines around my place and it's been fast enough to get them used to it (the precise version)
[18:18] <inetpro> and have been used to commit fraud via telephone calls
[18:18] <inetpro> Kilos: be warned ^^!!!
[18:19] <Langjan> melodie, frankly I dont have the time or inclination to get into an unknown OS at this stage
[18:19] <Kilos> i dont make fone calls and only allow known peeps to see my pc
[18:19] <inetpro> jaja
[18:19] <Kilos> haha
[18:19] <Kilos> only one ever viewed here was fly
[18:20] <Kilos> i may be stupid but im not a fool
[18:20] * inetpro justsaying
[18:20] <melodie> Langjan it looks like Lubuntu has a similar feel and is lighter
[18:20] <melodie> Langjan maybe later, when the full blown will be out then? :)
[18:21] <Langjan> Kilos, is there a difference? Lmga
[18:21] <Langjan> OK will keep in touch melodie
[18:21] <Kilos> difference in what?
[18:21] <Kilos> oh
[18:21] <Kilos> haha
[18:21] <Langjan> dom en gek
[18:21] <Kilos> ya man
[18:22] <Kilos> the stupid oke loses one wheels nuts but the fool showed him to take one off each of the other wheels for that wheel
[18:22] <inetpro> lol
[18:23] <melodie> Langjan may I? Here is a full presentation of the Precise when it was just a rc: http://linuxvillage.org/en/2013/11/bento-ubuntu-remix-rc/
[18:26] <Langjan> Ok thks melodie will have a look
[18:26] <Langjan> Guys I'm gonna love and leave you before I get the urge to break something
[18:26] <Kilos-> ok toppie
[18:26] <melodie> :D
[18:26] <Kilos-> stay well
[18:26] <inetpro> nag oom
[18:27] <Langjan> Thanks you also
[18:27] <inetpro> Kilos: wat het jy gebreek?
[18:27] <Kilos> melodie toppie =very old man
[18:27] <Langjan> lekker werk en dan slaap julle
[18:27] <Kilos> i went to bento to make screenshot
[18:27] <Langjan> wies die vom?
[18:27] <Kilos> oom man kan jy nie deur typos sien nie
[18:28] <Langjan> nee
[18:28] <Kilos> lol
[18:28] <Kilos> lekker slaap vriend
[18:28] <Langjan> dankie jy ook my pel
[18:29] <Kilos> sien jou weer binnekort
[18:29] <melodie> Kilos thanks
[18:29] <Kilos> hopelik voor jy iets breek
[18:29] <Kilos> np melodie
[18:29] <Kilos> we will find peeps to try
[18:29] <Kilos> it works good for me
[18:30] <Kilos> and uses same ubuntu repos so everything one needs is available i think
[18:30] <Kilos> inetpro at wget -c
[18:31] <stickyboy> Kilos: What kind of Internet do you have at the house?
[18:31] <Kilos> 3g
[18:32] <Kilos> thats why i dont do youtube or such things
[18:32] <inetpro> stickyboy: what do you have?
[18:32] <melodie> Kilos I have done a full upgrade to Vivid on one of my installs, it didn't break anything
[18:33] <Kilos> with bento melodie
[18:33] <stickyboy> Kilos: Yah, I was wondering if you had restrictions (I wanted you to test wget speed to ZA Ubuntu mirrors).
[18:33] <stickyboy> inetpro: At my house in Nairobi I have 10mbps cable.
[18:33] <melodie> and if we find a willing tester for uefi I will make a special version for that, only for testing (same as your's no extra packages, just the added grub-efi and such)
[18:33] <Kilos> we use kenya mirror stickyboy
[18:33] <melodie> Kilos of course with Bento
[18:33] <stickyboy> Kilos: Whoa, really? Damn...
[18:33] <inetpro> stickyboy: wow! What do you pay for that if I may ask?
[18:33] <melodie> do-release-upgrade -d ( a few days ago just before Vivid came out)
[18:34] <Kilos> we use symmetrias mirrors
[18:34] <Kilos> i ry stick to lts melodie
[18:34] <Kilos> try
[18:35] <Kilos> even have 12.04 running still
[18:35] <melodie> Kilos and the Precise version can work on machines with the crummy old Sis chipset (possibly the packages for graphics are fit, whereas the ones in Trusty not anymore)
[18:35] <stickyboy> inetpro: Uh... 4300 KES (~550 rand?).
[18:35] <inetpro> nice!
[18:35] <Kilos> mine has sis
[18:35] <stickyboy> Kilos: Why do you guys use Symmetria's mirrors? I'm super curious...
[18:36] <Kilos> because our main 2 arent maintained
[18:36] <melodie> Kilos I have to test ahead, because Vivid has now the packages I've been wanting in the repos for so long, so I test (and the next Openbox is also on test in that one machine)
[18:36] <Kilos> yes melodie but one needs uncapped to play like that
[18:37] <melodie> Kilos also Bento Precise is available in several versions and can be used, if you don't need all the very latest apps (it can last until 2017)
[18:37] <melodie> Kilos what is "uncapped" ?
[18:37] <Kilos> i used to clean install each release but data costs killed me
[18:37] <Kilos> no limit
[18:37] <Kilos> i try go 2 months on 2g of data
[18:38] <gremble> o/
[18:38] <melodie> Kilos in the coming times you would want to send me your mail address and I could post CD's or a USB stick with ISOs on it, and you can share them around
[18:38] <Kilos> hi gremble
[18:38] <melodie> or to someone in charge who can spread them to you and to the LoCo
[18:38] <gremble> Mailing won't work
[18:38] <gremble> :x
[18:38] <melodie> gremble ?
[18:38] <melodie> how long does it take?
[18:38] <Kilos> melodie our loco cover about 2000ks of land
[18:38] <stickyboy> Kilos: Wow, what's happening that the ZA Ubuntu mirrors aren't maintained? That's a sad state of affairs.
[18:39] <gremble> The South African Postal Service is probably dead
[18:39] <stickyboy> https://www.23andme.com/gen101/snps/ What is a SNP?
[18:39] <melodie> uh?
[18:39] <stickyboy> :P
[18:39] <Kilos> yes thats why we pointed them to andrews mirrors
[18:39] <stickyboy> I got my genome sequenced last week.
[18:39] <gremble> That's nice
[18:39] <stickyboy> melodie: Where are you living?
[18:40] <gremble> melodie: The South African postal service hasn't worked for more than a year, I think
[18:40] <melodie> stickyboy south west France
[18:40] <gremble> Mail is dead
[18:40] <melodie> Kilos do you confirm?
[18:41] <Kilos> yes i didnt get my mark signed certificate
[18:41] <melodie> when was it sent to you?
[18:41] <Kilos> about 2 months ago
[18:41] <gremble> About 10 000 students at the university of pretoria did not get their acceptance letters last year :P
[18:41] <melodie> aha
[18:41] <melodie> gremble wao !
[18:41] <stickyboy> melodie: Oh!
[18:41] <melodie> what does Canonical do for that?
[18:42] <Kilos> times are touch in za with all the strikes
[18:42] <melodie> well he is from South Africa after all!
[18:42] <Kilos> they only send one
[18:42] <melodie> aha
[18:42] <melodie> Kilos do you know when it has been sent?
[18:43] <Kilos> no melodie i havent asked even
[18:43] <melodie> oh 2 months you said
[18:43] <Kilos> yoo sad
[18:43] <Kilos> thats when i asked for one
[18:43] <melodie> so you don't know when it was sent
[18:43] <melodie> well well
[18:43] <Kilos> no
[18:44] <melodie> I guess each country has it's own special set of issues
[18:44] <Kilos> yeah
[18:44] <melodie> we should adress them in a wordly social bugzilla
[18:44] <melodie> and submit patches !
[18:44] <melodie> :D
[18:44] <Kilos> lol
[18:44] <gremble> The US does that with armed drone strikes
[18:44] <gremble> I don't think it works well
[18:45] <melodie> gremble awful
[18:45] <melodie> the result are awful on both sides I have read their pilots get nervous breakdowns
[18:46] <gremble> Yup.
[18:46] <gremble> Killing is not nice
[18:46] <melodie> Kilos do you think private companies work better?
[18:47] <Kilos> yes here they do atm
[18:47] <inetpro> Kilos: btw, I know the fly will hit me for saying this but you might want to wait just a bit before upgrading to Kubuntu 15.04
[18:47] <Kilos> but all poloticians are crooks and liars
[18:47] <Kilos> im happy with 14.04 inetpro
[18:48] <Kilos> i read some stuff about plasma5
[18:48] <Kilos> politicians
[18:48] <inetpro> still has a few stability issues that I haven't quite figured out yet but not very serious
[18:48] <melodie> Kilos I was wondering if creating or using a non for profit existing association could put distros isos and so one on amazon and have them sent directly for small fees, could help
[18:49] <melodie> how long would it take to be delivered from there?
[18:49] <inetpro> Kilos: oh and it only has a few widgets by default, not sure if you use those
[18:49] <Kilos> melodie we have a very large country and if the post office probs continue we wont even be able to mail out the 16.04 official dvds
[18:50] <Kilos> hmm...
[18:50] <inetpro> melodie: you trying to change our channel to a LUG?
[18:50] <Kilos> i added some for some or other reason
[18:51] <gremble> >.<
[18:51] <inetpro> gremble: sshhh
[18:51] <gremble> In all technical definitions of the term it is one :/
[18:51] <gremble> haha
[18:52] <melodie> inetpro I am not trying anything, just exchanging ideas about how to better make the people benefit of Ubuntu and variants
[18:52] <Kilos> hehe
[18:52] <inetpro> clever girl :-)
[18:53] <melodie> Kilos ok the postal service is a big big problem. Maybe another idea coming, not sure:
[18:53] <melodie> the people all around the country have cars don't they?
[18:53] <gremble> I have one!
[18:53] <gremble> I go on holiday..I mean a trip to get the CD's in France and bring them back
[18:53] <gremble> I will need a sponsorship though
[18:54] <gremble> viva-ubuntu
[18:54] <melodie> :)
[18:54] <Kilos> lol
[18:54] <melodie> there are countries in Africa where the situation isn't that bad
[18:54] <inetpro> Kilos: he needs membership for sure
[18:54] <Kilos> who
[18:54] <inetpro> Kilos: gremble
[18:54] <Kilos> oh ya
[18:54] <gremble> :x
[18:55] <gremble> I said nothing
[18:55] <melodie> Kilos you are working on getting people in touch if each one brings his CD's and isos to install parties you will at some point have a mean to spread the distros around
[18:55] <inetpro> with bright ideas like that we can not afford to loose him
[18:55] <gremble> inetpro: whatever happened to the documentation project that was on the mailing lists?
[18:56] <Kilos> melodie za is 2000 kilometers top to bottom
[18:56] <melodie> twice larger than France
[18:56] <Kilos> and not much less side to side
[18:56] <melodie> do people do co-coaching with their cars?
[18:56] <melodie> not the right word
[18:56] <melodie> seeking for a better one
[18:56] <melodie> co-driving?
[18:56] <gremble> France is larger than ZA
[18:56] <gremble> I do
[18:56] <gremble> Carpool
[18:57] <melodie> the idea is there
[18:57] <melodie> Kilos what if I produce zsync files for Bento, would that help you keep it up to date?
[18:57] <Kilos> yes that will work
[18:58] <melodie> I mean you could get new isos by using zsync which would reuse your original iso to create the new one, downloading only the missing part
[18:58] <melodie> ok will do then
[18:58] <inetpro> melodie: he survives on 2GB of data for two months
[18:58] <melodie> don't remember how to do that but I'll poke the people at #phillw
[18:58] <melodie> inetpro my!
[18:59] <melodie> inetpro are you also in SA ?
[18:59] <gremble> Uhm If you are really so hard up on internet data
[18:59] <gremble> I can download new ISO's and bring them to you, Kilos
[18:59] <inetpro> melodie: yes... and the 2GB of data costs him R150
[18:59] <melodie> inetpro R ?
[18:59] <gremble> Rand
[19:00] <gremble> it is our currency
[19:00] <melodie> I guess so
[19:00] <Kilos> i have the testing iso , surely i can just keep upgrading
[19:00] <gremble> It is worth a 14th of an euro :P
[19:00] <melodie> how long can eat a 4 persons family with R150 ?
[19:00] <melodie> that will tell me more
[19:00] <gremble> You could feed 3 of them I think
[19:00] <gremble> for a smallish meal
[19:01] <Kilos> 1 hamburger is about R50
[19:02] <Kilos> a bucket of kentucky R200
[19:02] <melodie> well here I pay 35 euros per month for a adsl connection, with fix line phone for France and several countries in Europe and illimited calls to mobiles in France and in some countries in Europe. It's not limited in data
[19:02] <melodie> Kilos kentucky?
[19:02] <Kilos> wow no kentucky fried chicken in france
[19:02] <melodie> and with 35 euros I buy enough food for one week for 2 to 3 persons
[19:02] <gremble> That is not a bad deal in SA terms
[19:02] <melodie> Kilos I just don't know the word
[19:03] <inetpro> a good deal that
[19:03] <gremble> KFC
[19:03] <melodie> Kilos is that what the server at
[19:03] <melodie> ok
[19:03] <melodie> I don't go to KFC places
[19:03] <Kilos> they make the best chicken
[19:03] <melodie> nope
[19:03] <gremble> Quite the culture clash here this evening
[19:03] <gremble> Glad I decided to come visit
[19:03] <gremble> :P
[19:03] <Kilos> lol
[19:03] <inetpro> Kilos: when last did you have KFC?
[19:03] <melodie> I do, when I buy organically grown up chicken!
[19:03] <melodie> :D
[19:04] <Kilos> when ian last came
[19:04] <Kilos> we never buy it
[19:04] <melodie> Kilos gremble said he can get the ISOs to you
[19:04] <melodie> do we have a deal? :D
[19:04] <Kilos> yes melodie but i am out on a smallholding without transport
[19:05] <gremble> You're less than 10km's from me
[19:05] <gremble> :P
[19:05] <Kilos> so better he can hand them out
[19:05] <Kilos> oh thats good to know gremble
[19:05] <Kilos> BUT FROM HERE I CANT DELIVER THEN FURTHER
[19:05] <Kilos> oops sorry
[19:06] <melodie> lol
[19:06] <gremble> Wow
[19:06] <gremble> Got so angry for a moment there :P
[19:06] <melodie> but gremble and you can organise meetings and deliver further
[19:06] <Kilos> why?
[19:06] <gremble> I thought you wanted them
[19:06] <gremble> If you don't want them, I guess I can hand them out to whomever wants them
[19:06] <melodie> I'll just leave you guys alone with the testing from now on and will give you the message when the full blown are ready for the desktops
[19:07] <gremble> Don't leave us alone :'(
[19:07] <Kilos> oh you mean the next one gremble
[19:07] <inetpro> superfly: KDE connect is awesome on 15.04
[19:07] <Kilos> i have the testing version
[19:07] <Kilos> the fly is sick in bed inetpro
[19:08] <Kilos> most likely lurking on mobile
[19:08] <inetpro> Kilos: the poor dude
[19:08] <Kilos> ya he gets sick too often
[19:08] <melodie> gremble I mean I won't bother you with multiple downloads and testing
[19:09] <gremble> AH
[19:09] <gremble> Too be honest, I have no idea what is really going on here. I read that someone wants a download, and I offered to do it. I should probably have made sure what I am signing myself on for
[19:09] <gremble> :P
[19:09] <melodie> Kilos has tested the 32bits and found it works fine, connects the internet on his 3G fine, he discovered that the codecs for video and sound aren't there yet : it's good enough for me. I can poke the guys at the ubuntu-fr.org forums for more testers
[19:10] <melodie> and see how things go from there
[19:10] * gremble suddenly understands
[19:10] <gremble> Ok
[19:10] <gremble> I get what is going on now
[19:10] <Kilos> yay
[19:10] <melodie> gremble summary for you: http://linuxvillage.org/en and http://linuxvillage.org/en/2013/11/bento-ubuntu-remix-rc/
[19:11] <melodie> one of the fastest Ubuntu spins
[19:11] <Kilos> melodie get them to put in bell.ogg as xchat default sound
[19:11] <melodie> and started on the Launchpad as a project too:
[19:11] <melodie> Kilos where can I find a sample for bell.ogg ?
[19:12] <Kilos> in old ubuntu cds
[19:12] <melodie> https://launchpad.net/bento-dev
[19:12] <melodie> I don't know if I still have one, I would need to check
[19:12] <melodie> how old?
[19:12] <Kilos> inetpro tell where
[19:12] <melodie> I guess I may have kept the very first ones
[19:12] <Kilos> oh i can mail it to you melodie
[19:13] <melodie> ok
[19:13] <gremble> Ah. you manage the bento distro, melodie?
[19:13] <melodie> https://launchpad.net/~meets
[19:13] <inetpro> melodie: you looking at making that into a full blown official derivative as well?
[19:14] <melodie> gremble I started to work on that many years ago and ported it to Ubuntu in 2012 only
[19:14] <melodie> inetpro I would like to, but I don't know yet if it is technically possible, I'm working on it (and I'm opened to tech help and suggests)
[19:14] <gremble> Ah okay. looks something like crunchbang (before it ported off ubuntu to debian)
[19:15] <gremble> It's nice. I will certainly keep this in mind
[19:15] <gremble> when talking to ubuntu-people
[19:15] <melodie> gremble crunchbang didn't use the same programs to get the dynamic menus
[19:15] <gremble> Nope
[19:15] <melodie> in this Bento is much much closer to the end users
[19:15] <gremble> Ah okay
[19:15] <melodie> the first aim was to make Openbox easy for all
[19:15] <gremble> Looks nice though
[19:15] <melodie> children, anyone
[19:16] <melodie> and this is very easy, and yet, still a work in progress as the next step will be to write a good documentation, so that the people know how to tweak it to their liking, without even having to ask how to do it
[19:16] <Kilos> melodie didnt you go to the link i gave you for the fly
[19:17] <melodie> Kilos perhaps not, can you give it again? not sure I saw it
[19:20] <melodie> Kilos which fly?
[19:20] <Kilos> only one fly here
[19:20] <Kilos> https://www.flickr.com/photos/who_da_fly/page1/
[19:21] <Kilos> thats the baby thats always in his arms
[19:21] <melodie> I'm looking
[19:21] <melodie> who is it?
[19:22] <inetpro> melodie: that would be the openlp dude
[19:23] <inetpro> and the nomanini guy
[19:23] <melodie> Kilos https://www.flickr.com/photos/who_da_fly/16918335191/
[19:24] <melodie> I know this plant I was in vacation in south east France in a place where it grows
[19:24] <melodie> inetpro what are you talking about?
[19:24] <inetpro> ai!
[19:25] <inetpro> melodie: superfly
[19:25] <Kilos> lol
[19:25] <melodie> inetpro I am talking about Kilos's pictures :D
[19:25] <Kilos> that looks like wild fig i think
[19:26] <melodie> it's not, I think
[19:26] <inetpro> melodie: those are not Kilos' pictures
[19:26] <melodie> inetpro no?
[19:26] <melodie> what is this burning fire? accidental?
[19:26] <inetpro> who_da_fly = superfly
[19:27] <Kilos> no they are the fly's family and home area in capetown
[19:27] <inetpro> melodie: https://www.google.com/search?q=fire+cape+town
[19:27] <Kilos> melodie you must slow down
[19:28] <Kilos> he told you this afternoon he had a baby in his arms
[19:29] <melodie> Kilos I know but I have just understood a few things about the product his company works with
[19:29] <melodie> now I get it
[19:29] <Kilos> lol
[19:29] <gremble> I leave to do some haskell and when I come back you're sharing pictures of burning babies.
[19:29] <gremble> reedeeculous
[19:29] <Kilos> hahaha
[19:30] <inetpro> roflol
[19:30] <Kilos> gremble no babies burning man
[19:30] <Kilos> that was all those big fires around cape town a while ago
[19:30] <gremble> Ah okay
[19:31] <inetpro> actually make that https://www.google.com/search?q=fire+cape+town&tbm=nws
[19:31] <gremble> I can't internet on this laptop other than IRC
[19:31] <gremble> because modern browsers have gotten too big :(
[19:32] <inetpro> gremble: wow, what you running on?
[19:32] <gremble> Celeron something-something with 2gb of RAM and a 40GB HDD
[19:32] <gremble> Chrome uses it up
[19:32] <gremble> Firefox just gives it up for a bad job
[19:32] <gremble> :P
[19:32] <Kilos> melodie how well do you know that plant
[19:33] <melodie> not very well
[19:33] <Kilos> it is called wild fig here and can be used for bluebottle stings
[19:34] <Kilos> portugese man of war
[19:34] <gremble> Doesn't the wild fig grow in mountainous areas?
[19:34] <melodie> when I was a child, I was staring at it, squashing one leaf to discover the feeling and always thought it looked like green french frises
[19:34] <Kilos> it grows on the beach in natal
[19:34] <melodie> gremble in France it grows near the seaside in the south west part
[19:35] <Kilos> instant cure for bluebottle stings
[19:35] <gremble> What I find to help a lot for bluebottle stings is to not go into the ater
[19:35] <gremble> water*
[19:36] <gremble> Incidentally, that also helps for sharkbites
[19:36] <melodie> what is that bluebottle stings?
[19:36] <Kilos> lol
[19:36] <melodie> let me check the dictionnaries?
[19:36] * inetpro goes to make his self some coffee
[19:36] <gremble> melodie: it is like a jellyfish that floats on the surface of the water
[19:36] <gremble> a Man-o-war
[19:37] <Kilos> http://www.mydr.com.au/allergy/bluebottle-stings
[19:37] <gremble> Not the band, the collection of animals
[19:37] <melodie> http://www.mydr.com.au/allergy/bluebottle-stings
[19:37] <melodie> found the same o_o
[19:37] <melodie> horror !
[19:37] <Kilos> http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/news/nsw/forget-what-youve-learned-about-bluebottle-stings-scientists-have-the-answer/story-fni0cx12-1226782266385
[19:37] <Kilos> burns like fire
[19:38] <melodie> I have to go cooking, bbl
[19:38] <Kilos> used to be a lifesaver and beach bum secret
[19:38] <Kilos> make nice food
[19:38] <melodie> ok
[19:38] <melodie> I will do something fast and simple
[19:39] <Kilos> fried eggs
[19:39] <stickyboy> I had a calzone.
[19:40] <Kilos> whats that
[19:43] <Kilos> sounds like steroids
[19:44] <melodie> that's a folded omelette I think or a folded pizza maybe?
[19:44] <melodie> stickyboy ?
[19:45] <gremble> Folded pizza
[19:45] <stickyboy> melodie: Indeed. :P
[19:45] <stickyboy> Pizza
[19:45] <melodie> :)
[19:51] <inetpro> melodie: you should get your Bento listed at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DerivativeTeam/Derivatives
[19:54] <melodie> inetpro I will tell gsilva
[19:54] <melodie> as soon as the Trusty edition will be finished and really ready to go
[19:56] <melodie> I don't know if the derivatives listed there are done with the launchpad build system or if some are done by hand on their local machines with tools such as customizer or ubuntu-builder
[19:56] <melodie> and I am trying to learn new things to make Bento even closer to the official ones, so... perhaps not right away
[19:57] <Kilos> just keep it light and fast
[19:58] <Kilos> and add the sound files
[20:00] <inetpro> plenty others listed on that page, perhaps a good idea to join other teams and see how they do it
[20:01] <Kilos> i go sleep.night all. sleep tight
[20:03] <gremble> I don't think I like working with structured text
[20:04] <gremble> Good night k...oh he left. I can't tab complete
[20:04] <inetpro> gremble: why not?
[20:05] <inetpro> gremble: with structured text you mean reStructuredText?
[20:05] <gremble> Writing a simple library for handling JSON in haskell. And it is so tedious to make sure that your text represenation fits what is expected
[20:05] <gremble> haha
[20:05] <gremble> no JSON in this case
[20:06] <inetpro> ah
[20:06] <inetpro> JSON still on my To Learn list
[20:07] <gremble> Seems like a good way to send information back and forth
[20:08] <stickyboy> gremble: I really like Markdown more.
[20:08] <stickyboy> (than rst)
[20:08] <inetpro> gremble: and the problem with it is?
[20:09] <stickyboy> Oh, you didn't mean reStructuredText. hehe.
[20:10] <gremble> I've never used restructured text
[20:10] <gremble> my blog uses markdown as well
[20:10] <gremble> but I am not talking about that :P
[20:11] <inetpro> actually structured data
[20:11] <gremble> ^
[20:11] <gremble> what I meant to say
[20:11] <gremble> But didnt
[20:11] <gremble> because dumb
[20:12] <inetpro> thought that could a broad subject all on it's own
[20:12] <gremble> Well, structured data is nice. Adding structure to text is less so
[20:12] <inetpro> though*
[20:12] <inetpro> gremble: I tend to agree on that
[20:12] <inetpro> makes things very bulky
[20:13] <gremble> Look at any programming language :P
[20:14] <stickyboy> JSON is analogous to XML. :P
[20:14] <stickyboy> For web services
[20:15] <gremble> Fuck XML xD
[20:15] <inetpro> uh
[20:15] <stickyboy> gremble: Exactly. ;P
[20:15] * stickyboy is compiling neovim.
[20:15] <gremble> I hate working with XML so much
[20:15] <gremble> :(
[20:21] <inetpro> gremble: so what would you use in stead?
[20:24] <gremble> An excuse
[20:24] <gremble> and do something else
[20:24] <gremble> XML is good what it does
[20:24] <gremble> that is why we use
[20:24] <gremble> it
[20:24] <gremble> That doesn't mean that it is nice to work with :P
[20:25] <inetpro> hmm...
[20:25] * inetpro was hoping that he found another magic bullet
[20:26] <gremble> Sorry :P
[20:37] <gremble> Do you know what I find utterly fascinating about haskell? I can define a function called <>
[20:38] <gremble> something like (<>) :: String -> String -> String
[20:38] <gremble> So it takes two strings as input and returns a string
[20:38] <gremble> amazing
[20:55] <inetpro> yikes!
[21:03] <superfly> then you get python where you can put a literal string in the middle of nowhere, and Python says, "hey, cool!"
[21:08] <gremble> Scripting languages are weird
[21:11] <superfly> I haven't used Ruby, but from my experience Python is in a world of its own. it is one of the truly object-orentated programming languages. Java and C#, by comparison, are actually class-orientated
[21:12] <superfly> hrm, JavaScript is similar to Python in that regard
[21:13] <gremble> Isn't an object an instatiation of a class or structure?
[21:17] <gremble> stickyboy: how is neovim so far?
[21:22] <superfly> gremble: not necessarily. in Python, a class is actually an object
[21:24] <gremble> Using c++, we were taught that a class is a class up until you create it at runtime, then it is an object that you manipulate
[21:24] <gremble> Same goes for a struct
[21:27] <gremble> Not having massive amounts of classes to contain all the aspects of your code is really weird for me still.
[21:28] <gremble> OO-anonymous
and add the sound files || I'll publish a post to announce the next additions to the test iso, and you will hence be able to install just the needed packages, so you won't need to re-download the whole iso to update your computer
[21:33] <melodie> and of course I'll always work on providing it as light as possible on resource
[21:34] <gremble> Pushbullet is such a cool addon D:
Not having massive amounts of classes to contain all the aspects of your code is really weird for me still. || what if you compared to music, which actually uses only 8 notes? (7 really)
[21:38] <melodie> (just a thought, I don't code myself)
[21:38] <inetpro> melodie: he's sleeping and not online
[21:39] <inetpro> any more
[21:39] <superfly> gremble: I had to re-learn OO when I started using Python
[21:39] <melodie> inetpro ok, then he will read later
[21:39] <gremble> melodie: He won't :P It doesn't stay
[21:39] <melodie> gremble what about the logs? (see the topic)
[21:39] <inetpro> melodie: use the bot to give him a message
[21:40] <melodie> how do I do that?
[21:40] <superfly> gremble: or rather, I had to unlearn class-orientated programming and learn real OO
[21:40] <inetpro> Maaz: tell melodie this is how you do it
[21:40] <Maaz> inetpro: Sure, I'll tell melodie on freenode
[21:41] <inetpro> melodie: you got that?
[21:41] <melodie> nope
[21:41] <Maaz> melodie: By the way, inetpro on freenode told me "tell melodie this is how you do it" 1 minute and 8 seconds ago
[21:41] <gremble> superfly: now I'm trying to learn class-orientated programming to learn strictly typed functional programming :P
[21:41] <inetpro> now you did :-)
[21:41] <gremble> I quite enjoy it
[21:42] <melodie> inetpro is there a specific command?
[21:42] <inetpro> melodie: Maaz: tell Kilos message
[21:43] <melodie> or just /msg someone "the message" ?
[21:43] <melodie> with a / ?
[21:43] <inetpro> no
[21:43] <inetpro> just start with Maaz
[21:44] <melodie> Maaz tell gremble "<gremble> Not having massive amounts of classes to contain all the aspects of your code is really weird for me still. || what if you compared to music, which actually uses only 8 notes? (7 really)"
[21:44] <Maaz> melodie: Okay, I'll tell gremble on freenode
[21:44] <melodie> inetpro seems simple! ^^
[21:44] <gremble> it is
[21:44] <Maaz> gremble: By the way, melodie on freenode told me "tell gremble "<gremble> Not having massive amounts of classes to contain all the aspects of your code is really weird for me still. || what if you compared to music, which actually uses only 8 notes? (7 really)"" 15 seconds ago
[21:44] <superfly> night all (again), I must go back to bed
[21:44] <gremble> cheers superfly
[21:44] <inetpro> good night superfly
[21:44] <melodie> night superfly
[21:45] <melodie> gremble inetpro had said you were sleeping
[21:45] <gremble> Kilos is sleeping
[21:45] <inetpro> ai!
[21:45] <gremble> I'm here still
[21:45] <melodie> :)
[21:45] <melodie> gremble so what about music?
[21:45] <gremble> I am certainly thinking about sleeping, but I also have shit to learn
[21:45] <melodie> 8 notes
[21:45] <melodie> ^^
[21:45] <gremble> Music only has 8 notes, but the sounds are different
[21:46] <gremble> 7*
[21:46] <melodie> technically yes 7
[21:46] <gremble> so say A and A are the same note, they resonate the same, but they still sound different
[21:46] <melodie> but 8 for the "gamme"
[21:46] <gremble> You can tell the difference between a low A and a high A
[21:47] <melodie> you can tell, hear, but can you define it?
[21:47] <gremble> And then you also have combinations that are important. Like a 4, 5 sound fine, but a 2 and a 7 sounds bad
[21:47] <gremble> Yes, I can define it by the resonant frequency
[21:48] <gremble> Middle C has a frequency of 261.626 Hz whereas the next C is 523.251Hz
[21:48] <gremble> Next higher*
[21:49] <melodie> gremble and aren't you amazed that such a small number of notes are allowing to produce infinite number of pieces of music?
[21:49] <gremble> I don't think the musical sample space is infinite.
[21:49] <gremble> It is probably countable infinite
[21:49] <gremble> countably*
[21:50] <gremble> And that is still not just 8 notes
[21:50] <gremble> Because you have the half-tones in there as well
[21:51] <gremble> And a piano will be able to make more music than say a bass guitar
[21:52] <gremble> (I'm being contrary for no good reason though, music is fantastic none the less, and I do get the point that you are getting at; that with a finite set, a practically infinite set of combinations can be produced)
[21:56] <inetpro> wb hibana
[21:56] <hibana> inetpro: thanks
[21:57] * hibana goes sleeping again
[21:57] <hibana> good night
[21:57] <inetpro> uh
[22:00] <inetpro> fp
[22:02] <gremble> Don't swear. There are ladies in the room
[22:02] <gremble> I think
[22:02] <gremble> fuck
[22:05] <inetpro> gremble: please don't use it
[22:12] <gremble> :P
[22:12] <gremble> Yes yes. I will behave
[22:19] <inetpro> lol
[22:19] <inetpro> thank you
[22:19] <gremble> I'll try to, at least
[22:21] <gremble> Writing code that I don't entirely understand and it compiles at the first go
[22:21] <gremble> I don't know
[22:21] <gremble> I just don't know
[22:26] <inetpro> gremble: talk to a rubber duck
[22:26] <inetpro> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rubber_duck_debugging
[22:27] <Trixar_za> It's the talking cure for coding. If you explain it to a third party, you tend to see the problem more clearly.
[22:28] <gremble> That is probably not a bad idea
[22:28] <inetpro> of course you're always welcome to talk to us here :-)
[22:28] <gremble> That is how I study math.. like a lunatic
[22:28] <kulelu88> as long as you aren't coding Java. then GTFO
[22:28] <gremble> kulelu88: I think you just stole my heart
[22:29] <gremble> <3
[22:29] <kulelu88> <3 <3 <3 bromance codemance
[22:29] <gremble> Its haskell doe
[22:30] <gremble> I have a function called (</>) and (<>) without the () :D
[22:30] <gremble> functions*
[22:33] <kulelu88> show ta code:
[22:37] <gremble> paste.hskll.org/get/2529
[22:42] <gremble> kulelu88: ^
[22:46] <kulelu88> is that code :O
[22:46] <gremble> It's both pretty and ugly at the same time :P
[22:47] <kulelu88> what does the :: do?
[22:47] <gremble> <function name> :: <type> -> <type>
[22:48] <gremble> so it is like if you have void foo(bar, quux); in c
[22:48] <gremble> where foo is <function name> and bar and quux are types. In this case void is the last one
[22:49] <kulelu88> I started seeing that when I saw your declarations of string
[22:49] <gremble> that is the purpose of :: then. Splitting the name and types
[22:49] <kulelu88> why are you declaring things that look like internal types?
[22:49] <kulelu88> double, text, string, char
[22:50] <gremble> Im turning them into Doc's
[22:50] <kulelu88> don't you need overloading for that?
[22:50] <gremble> Nope
[22:50] <gremble> I made a tree data structure called Doc
[22:51] <gremble> that can hold a bunch of different things
[22:51] <kulelu88> are you doing this for fun?
[22:51] <gremble> Yes
[22:51] <gremble> I am learning haskell
[22:51] <kulelu88> yikes.
[22:51] <kulelu88> I couldn't "enjoy" learning these kinds of things
[22:51] <kulelu88> or I could
[22:51] <gremble> Why not?
[22:51] <kulelu88> or I don't know
[22:51] <gremble> :P
[22:52] <gremble> I like it because it is very math-like
[22:52] <kulelu88> my utility isn't very high when I code for fun
[22:52] <gremble> Mine isn't very high if I have to code for business
[22:52] <gremble> :P
[22:53] <kulelu88> I'd code if I have a distinct goal
[22:53] <kulelu88> build an app, build a script, build a container
[22:53] <gremble> I can't do much of that yet :P
[22:53] <gremble> Hopefully by the end of the year I will have something cool
[22:53] <kulelu88> containers are easy.
[22:53] <gremble> I can do containers in C++
[22:53] <kulelu88> and if you can learn this kind of coding, building crud-stuff will be a breeze for you
[22:54] <kulelu88> by "build", I mean: sudo docker run :D
[22:54] <gremble> :P
[22:54] <kulelu88> sheesh my stomach is broken
[22:54] <gremble> From?
[22:54] <kulelu88> turkish food and beans
[22:55] <gremble> Beans, beans, the musical fruit. The more you eat, the more you toot
[22:55] <gremble> My grandfather used to sing that to us
[22:55] <kulelu88> yeah I can't eat that Koo stuff anymore.
[22:58] <gremble> Do you only eat fresh beans now?
[22:58] <gremble> :P
[22:58] <kulelu88> is there a difference??
[22:58] <gremble> Fresh beans come in a packet and koo beans come in a can
[22:58] <gremble> ?
[22:59] <kulelu88> aah ambiguity. I mean a difference on the impact on your stomach
[22:59] <gremble> I have no idea :P
[22:59] <gremble> You said you don't eat Koo beans, so I assumed that you had other beans
[22:59] <kulelu88> I said I can't. I didn't say I don't :D
[22:59] <gremble> Hahaha
[23:00] <kulelu88> does tuks post a list of their alumni graduating each year?
[23:00] <gremble> I have no idea
[23:00] <gremble> Not anywhere where I have come across it
[23:01] <gremble> Their site had a vulnerability that listed all of the alumni they've ever produced along with their email addresses, cellphone numbers and degrees
[23:01] <gremble> But that was an accident I believe
[23:01] <kulelu88> where was the loophole? clickup?
[23:01] <gremble> No. Marketing department
[23:02] <kulelu88> could easily be done through linkedin (well not as easy as a GET request)
[23:03] <gremble> I only recently got LinkdIN to stop sending me emails
[23:03] <gremble> I am staying so far away from them
[23:03] <gremble> D:
[23:03] <kulelu88> I need to get them to stop phishing info from my email address
[23:04] <kulelu88> shitty tool that hasn't helped me once in life
[23:04] <gremble> That is the worst kind of social network
[23:07] <kulelu88> hows the student life?
[23:07] <gremble> Busy. Fairly sure I am going to fail differential equations. Other than that, I am hanging on haha
[23:08] <gremble> And I need to get a job. This private tutoring is leaving me more frustrated and broke than anything else
[23:08] <kulelu88> wtw 300?
[23:08] <gremble> :P
[23:08] <gremble> wtw 286
[23:09] <kulelu88> standard or fnb will have a gig for you. soulless good-paying work
[23:09] <gremble> in second year?
[23:09] <kulelu88> oh you're still there next year, ja. internship then :D
[23:10] <gremble> Hmm. I will go have a look
[23:10] <gremble> Soulless good-paying work is better than nothing
[23:12] <gremble> There is a job at the university for a Senior Technical assistant, that basically uploads stuff to a CMS and "liasons" between Graduates and Staff, but they want a BSc degree and 3 years of experience in IT administration to consider an applicant for the position
[23:14] <kulelu88> that's basically their way of promoting how important their degrees + exp mean. Find the main guy there and convince him to put in a good word.
[23:15] <kulelu88> finding work was so kak that I don't even work in the field I studied
[23:15] <gremble> What field did you study and where do you work now?
[23:15] <gremble> well, what field of work are you in now?
[23:16] <kulelu88> commerce > IT
[23:16] <gremble> :P
[23:16] <kulelu88> TMS I had linux going for me
[23:16] <gremble> Learning Linux whas probably one of the best investements that I've ever made in myself haha
[23:17] <kulelu88> yeah, it should be second nature to open the CLI and go "sudo ..."
[23:17] <gremble> At the CSIR they lit up when I told them I knew linux, more so than when I said I can code in C/C++ and do mathematics
[23:17] <kulelu88> They wouldn't even consider me cause of the mandate of hiring BSc
[23:18] <gremble> It would be nice to get something there once I am done
[23:19] <gremble> (although I would prefer to do something abroad for a bit)
[23:19] <kulelu88> yeah, seems like a right of passage from some okes to go live in london/australia for a few years
[23:19] <gremble> Germany as free university for even foreigners
[23:19] <gremble> ;P
[23:19] <kulelu88> my idea of greener pastures is Ballito right now
[23:20] <gremble> Haha
[23:20] <gremble> To each their own :P
[23:20] <kulelu88> for now...
[23:20] <kulelu88> winter here is too kak
[23:21] <kulelu88> how do you mentally encourage yourself to code more and watch less series?
[23:21] <gremble> I don't like watching series, so it is not that difficult
[23:22] <kulelu88> none of them? shit, I'm watching too many
[23:22] <gremble> Sometimes I'll put Dr. Who on while I code, but that is rarely
[23:22] <gremble> Coding is my meditation so I do that when I have other work to do, but I don't want to
[23:23] <kulelu88> I need that power
[23:23] <kulelu88> teach me sensei
[23:24] <gremble> Haha. It's not that hard to fathom. Those guys that go to the gym for three or four hours a day don't just go to jack off. They have clearly set goals. Weekly, monthly, etc
[23:25] <gremble> So when you take on a project such as learning a new programming language, it is important to have a set goal to reach for
[23:25] <kulelu88> I guess the isolation bothers me. I enjoy pair-coding a lot
[23:25] <gremble> I would like to make a rogue-like in haskell by the end of the year
[23:25] <gremble> I pair coded once. We had to go outside to have a fist fight
[23:26] <kulelu88> must've been an engineer
[23:26] <gremble> Can't remember
[23:26] <gremble> He kept using improper god-conditions for his state machine
[23:27] <gremble> resulting in really shitty cascading if-statements
[23:28] <gremble> If you like pair-programming though, you should take a look at Koding
[23:28] <melodie> http://ubuntu-manual.org/downloads
[23:29] <melodie> for all who need a full documentation as a downloadable manual
[23:29] <melodie> 2 versions, one for printing and one for the screen : with clickable links in it, very handy
[23:29] <gremble> That is quite nice
[23:29] <gremble> Thanks melodie
[23:30] <kulelu88> melodie!!!
[23:30] <melodie> welcome
[23:30] <kulelu88> we should be welcoming you! bonjour
[23:30] <melodie> I put them links and manuals in Bento 12.04, in a "Goodies" directory, and will do for Bento Trusty when ready too
[23:30] <kulelu88> I don't see any part of Koding where I can pair-program
[23:30] <melodie> salut kulelu88
[23:31] <kulelu88> melodie: correct me if I am wrong, but you are a gurllll?
[23:31] <gremble> We used to pair program with Koding. If I recall correctly you can invite other people into your VM
[23:31] <kulelu88> oh yes, that's how.
[23:31] <melodie> kulelu88 you are right, a girl I am
[23:32] <kulelu88> gurll on the interwebz *cry-face
[23:33] <gremble> Sometimes I wonder if you are still stuck in the 1972 internet :P
[23:33] <kulelu88> hey hey! I am just reliving the days of the guys who had the chance to say such things
[23:34] <gremble> Meh. This VM takes too long to spin up
[23:34] <gremble> But ya, Koding allows for collaboration
[23:34] <kulelu88> virtualbox?
[23:35] <gremble> Do you have a coding account kulelu88 ?
[23:35] <kulelu88> a Koding account? no
[23:36] <gremble> Oh. Okay. Well, you can open your VM settings there and then share it with someone that has an account
[23:36] <gremble> and voila
[23:36] <gremble> Pair programming
[23:36] <kulelu88> does it have chat support?
[23:36] <gremble> as long as it is python, Ruby and some other things
[23:36] <gremble> Yes I believe so
[23:36] <kulelu88> python <3
[23:36] <melodie> kulelu88 this sayd, guys are allowed to help here! :D
[23:36] <gremble> But I think using a microphone and skype/teamspeak would probably be better
[23:37] <melodie> we have cats to whip
[23:37] <kulelu88> melodie: do you code also?
[23:37] <melodie> https://launchpad.net/bento-dev
[23:37] <melodie> kulelu88 didn't have time to learn, though I tried to start several times
[23:38] <melodie> I just put up a shell script, it would be the first one :p
[23:38] <melodie> to put the "receiv key" command line in it
[23:39] <melodie> kulelu88 putting pieces together, http://linuxvillage.org/en/2015/04/sushi-trusty-in-test/
[23:39] <melodie> it uses less ram
[23:39] <melodie> it's easy for end users
[23:39] <kulelu88> I'm trying to understand how you guys are building a distro without coding. Must be difficult
[23:39] <melodie> it's openbox without a desktop manager
[23:39] <melodie> kulelu88 of course it is difficult
[23:40] <gremble> Distro's are mostly built with shell scripting, not coding so much
[23:40] <melodie> I often read code though and I start to understand some parts in it
[23:40] <melodie> also some people help me with this project when I meet with critical needs
[23:41] <melodie> what helps me most is that I know the system well enough
[23:41] <melodie> and key commands too
[23:41] <kulelu88> I never knew it was possible to build a distro without having some programming knowledge. that's awesome
[23:41] <gremble> I think I am going to do the sleep thing
[23:42] <melodie> kulelu88 it's difficult, but I first had to learn many things
[23:42] <gremble> I will probably see you guys tomorrow, unless I can talk myself into doing linear algebra
[23:42] <melodie> gremble good night!
[23:42] <kulelu88> yes, homework gremble
[23:42] <melodie> kulelu88 and I'm not building a distro
[23:43] <melodie> I am using pieces from a distro and add some specific configuration
[23:43] <kulelu88> aah sorry
[23:43] <melodie> also have been plotting these last 2 years to get the main components get into Debian so that it could be in Ubuntu after
[23:43] <melodie> and continuing :)
[23:44] <melodie> you can have a look here http://linuxvillage.org/en/downloads/
[23:45] <melodie> kulelu88 what about you? which programming languages?
[23:46] <kulelu88> melodie: Python, C, PHP, JS
[23:46] <kulelu88> not proficient in any
[23:46] <melodie> which one would you like to be best at?
[23:48] <kulelu88> Python
[23:48] <kulelu88> very easy to understand
[23:48] <melodie> and how good are you with shell script?
[23:48] <kulelu88> not too bad. I can understand shell scripts
[23:48] <melodie> I have been to a "coding 4 oclock" with kids
[23:48] <melodie> we did "codecombat.com"
[23:48] <melodie> ld
[23:49] <melodie> :D
[23:49] <kulelu88> your kids?
[23:49] <melodie> http://codecombat.com
[23:49] <melodie> my teen son along with kids going there
[23:49] <kulelu88> oh that's cool
[23:50] <kulelu88> never seen this before
[23:50] <melodie> then you might also like http://app-inventor.mit.edu and http://scratch.mit.edu
[23:51] <melodie> appinventor.mit.edu
[23:51] <melodie> my bad
[23:54] <melodie> kulelu88 are you playing with Code Combat now? :D
[23:54] <kulelu88> no :D I am busy at work :P
[23:55] <melodie> kulelu88 which timezone?
[23:55] <kulelu88> +2
[23:56] <melodie> so you work nightly
[23:56] <melodie> it's 1:56 am here too
[23:56] <kulelu88> I have flexi-time
[23:57] <melodie> what do you do?
[23:57] <kulelu88> I work in IT
[23:57] <melodie> why would I have bet?
[23:57] <melodie> what IT do you do? :)
[23:57] <kulelu88> no idea :D
[23:57] <melodie> monitoring networks?
[23:57] <melodie> XD
[23:57] <kulelu88> analyst
[23:57] <melodie> no idea??
[23:58] <melodie> oh ok
[23:58] <kulelu88> no idea = for your question :D :D
[23:58] <kulelu88> "why would I have bet?"
[23:58] <Trixar_za> Sounds like most Analysts I know
[23:58] <melodie> Trixar_za tell me more :D
[23:59] <kulelu88> hey Trixar_za you parking there quietly doing NLP on us :D
[23:59] <melodie> Trixar_za what is an analyst doing ?
|
ubuntu-chat
|
2024-05-13T22:11:15.523753
| 2015-04-26T00:00:00 |
{
"license": "Public Domain",
"authors": [
"Kilos",
"Kilos-",
"Langjan",
"Maaz",
"Trixar_za",
"georgelappies",
"gremble",
"hibana",
"inetpro",
"kulelu88",
"melodie",
"stickyboy",
"superfly"
],
"url": "https://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2015/04/26/%23ubuntu-za.txt",
"channel": "#ubuntu-za"
}
|
2015-04-26-#kubuntu-devel
|
[01:26] <frecel> does anyone know how to run the plasma active ui in kubuntu?
[01:44] <frecel> valorie: do you know who should I talk about the current state of kde for tablets?
[03:47] <tuv0k> http://pastebin.com/5v02NVQ0
[05:47] <Tm_T> I'm running that 5.3 staging stuff
[05:48] <Tm_T> I cannot rightclick almost anything in plasma panels
[05:50] <Tm_T> and if I try rightclick something in taskmanager, things get messy, suddenly all stuff is overlayed with something semitranslucent, alt-tab doesn't work nor I cannot get proper focus to any window (clicks goes through though?)
[05:52] <Tm_T> ...i got that last bit working by disabling the following things from taskmanager: "show tooltips" and "hilight windows"
[05:54] <Tm_T> ah yeah, it's that "hilight windows" that mess things up
[06:28] <_Groo_> hi/2 all
[06:28] <_Groo_> anyone alive?
[06:44] <Tm_T> depends on the definition of alive
[06:56] <_Groo_> so, i installed kubuntu-ci vivid fresh
[06:57] <_Groo_> and bluez is broken
[06:57] <_Groo_> sorry, bluedevil is broken
[06:57] <_Groo_> it wants bluez (>= 5)
[06:57] <_Groo_> but 4 is on vivid
[06:57] <_Groo_> where can i get the 5 one?
[08:23] <vip> hi
[09:38] <ejay> guys, do you know when systray will work with GTK applications?
[09:41] <Riddell> ejay: what does it work with?
[09:47] <ejay> Riddell, for example - I've got Firefox and Thunderbird plugin so those goes to systray when minimized (I mean - they should, ot work in kde4). This plugin is not working with current plasma5 systray.
[11:36] <Riddell> soee, yofel: did I see you guys try plasma 5.3.0?
[12:00] <mparillo> Is there a new way to try Plasma 5.3? Nobody seems to file bugs against PPAs, do they? I added kubuntu-ppa/next-staging to test Plasma 5.2.95, and it works great on my HW (except when I switch to breeze dark, my system tray icons seem hard to read), but not on VMWare. https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=346467 kicked it back to Kubuntu, but do anybody know where the Kubuntu bug should be filed?
[12:02] <Riddell> mparillo: bugs.kde.org for bugs in the software, plasmashell or kwin product
[12:02] <Riddell> oh you did already
[12:03] <Riddell> in that case no idea sorry :(
[12:06] <mparillo> Alas, Aleix Pol thinks it is our problem. So I am wondering if it is just VMware Player (since few seem to use it) or also in the more popular virtual box?
[12:17] <Riddell> mparillo: plasma 5 doesn't work too well with these funny environments, I think virtualbox works not but I didn't for a long time, and vnc doesn't work alas
[12:17] <soee> Riddell: im on 5.3
[12:17] <soee> since first packages were in next-staging
[12:18] <soee> so far i reorted only this: https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=346668
[12:18] <soee> seems like this mnitors are a bit broken
[12:18] * yofel updates
[12:19] <Riddell> yofel: ooh hang on, could you use kubuntu-ppa/backports instead of beta?
[12:20] <yofel> I was using staging, but can use backport to see if something changes
[12:20] <mitya57> ejay: "do you know when systray will work with GTK applications?" — when GTK applications switch from deprecated X11 systray to something compatible with SNI.
[12:21] <mitya57> Gtk+ itself deprecated GtkStatusIcon in the latest release, that might speed up things a bit :)
[12:23] <ejay> mitya57, thanks for the info. Didn't know that.
[12:24] <soee> compared to next-stging ppa, only thispackage is dowmloaded: Get:5 http://ppa.launchpad.net/kubuntu-ppa/backports/ubuntu/ vivid/main breeze amd64 4:5.3.0-0ubuntu1~ubuntu15.04~ppa1
[12:25] <BluesKaj> Hiyas all
[12:25] <Riddell> I deleted breeze from next-staging but it still wouldn't let me upload it for the updated upstream tar :(
[12:25] <Riddell> so I just put it into updates directly
[12:25] <soee> hiho BluesKaj
[12:26] <soee> BluesKaj: there is Plasma 5.3 to test in backports ppa
[12:26] <BluesKaj> yeah, already have them on the other install
[12:27] <BluesKaj> hi soee:)
[12:27] <yofel> Riddell: why didn't you change the version like we usually do?
[12:27] <yofel> hm yeah, backports adds breeze and a new digikam
[12:28] <BluesKaj> this install is the official release with no ppas
[12:28] <BluesKaj> I have the backports enabled
[12:29] <Riddell> yofel: feels messy to have 5.3.0a, I was just trying to work out how to avoid it
[12:29] <BluesKaj> soee, kubuntu-next staging /
[12:29] <BluesKaj> ?
[12:29] <Riddell> soee: remove staging, I moved it to backports
[12:29] <Riddell> BluesKaj: ↑
[12:29] <soee> https://launchpad.net/~kubuntu-ppa/+archive/ubuntu/backports
[12:29] <Riddell> because it passed my tests
[12:30] <Riddell> although don't tell anyone until it gets announced on Tuesday
[12:30] <BluesKaj> Riddell, ok ,but I haven't seen any upgrades
[12:31] <Riddell> BluesKaj: there's nothing different in kubuntu-ppa/backports compared to next-staging except breeze
[12:31] <Riddell> and even then you may have the old breeze that was in there (same version number)
[12:34] <BluesKaj> Riddell, I see, ok will add the above ppa
[12:37] <soee> BluesKaj: if you can test and confirm this would be good https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=346668
[12:37] <soee> test also other monitors, as other users report some problems with them
[12:42] <yofel> monitor hotplug actually seems to work now for the first time in plasma 5, at least I see nothing obviously wrong on first glance
[12:42] <Riddell> yofel: yeah it was quite broken for me in the beta but final seems all good
[12:43] <yofel> disconnecting it also didn't screw anything up, wow
[12:47] <Riddell> :)
[12:56] <soee> Riddell: would be good to have new website online soon, there are already some related topics: https://plus.google.com/+AllanShand/posts/aFK1U4T7g7J
[12:59] <mparillo> So, if I enable backports, I can remove kubuntu-ppa/next-staging to test Plasma 5.2.95 ?
[13:00] <yofel> you should remove next-staging in any case, and backports will give you 5.3
[13:03] <BluesKaj> hope the reboot brings the desktop and not the black screen I had with the staging ppa
[13:04] <BluesKaj> lots of problems with nvidia and X on 15.04
[13:04] <yofel> really? I'm fine here..
[13:04] <soee> yeah a lot of users complain about nvidia, black-screen etc.
[13:05] <yofel> my GPU is a bit old though
[13:08] <Riddell> soee: jose and ovidiu-florin are waiting for canonical sysadmins to set it up
[13:22] <BluesKaj> here goes with the plasma 5.3 workspace
[13:36] <darthanubis> http://pastebin.com/5v02NVQ0
[13:36] <darthanubis> my apt broke with mime-support
[13:46] <BluesKaj> success! all seems well after the installing plasma 5.3 :)
[14:24] <soee> :)
[14:25] <darthanubis> soee: my mime-suport is broken. Might that be 5.3 related?
[14:38] <soee> darthanubis: it shuldn't
[14:39] <soee> Riddell: any thoughts ^
[14:41] <darthanubis> http://pastebin.com/5v02NVQ0
[14:42] <darthanubis> http://paste.ubuntu.com/10898316/
[14:42] <darthanubis> apport won't file bug
[14:42] <darthanubis> brb
[14:58] <darthanubis> k
[16:40] <BluesKaj> the addon installer for themes, colours, widgetsa etc is not connecting to the internet ...error out
[16:53] <snele> BluesKaj: http://kde-look.org/ not available atm
[16:53] <BluesKaj> could be because kde-look.org is doen for maintanence
[16:54] <BluesKaj> err down
[16:57] <BluesKaj> err maintenance
[17:05] * BluesKaj needs to study spelling
[19:50] <ovidiu-florin> Hellooooooo world :D:D
[19:53] <soee_> hiho ovidiu-florin
[19:53] <ahoneybun> hey ovidiu-florin
[19:54] <BluesKaj> lots of troubles still, with 15.04, unfortunately
[19:57] <soee_> BluesKaj: what exactly ?
[20:01] <BluesKaj> desktop effects/OpenGL with intel gpu for example
[20:01] <soee_> woho Debian 8.0 Jessie has been released! http://
[20:05] <ovidiu-florin> BluesKaj: on your computer?
[20:05] <BluesKaj> ovidiu-florin, no
[20:06] <ovidiu-florin> BluesKaj: can you provide any links? or something
[20:08] <BluesKaj> ovidiu-florin, we've trying to solve the problem in #kubuntu...it's a new problem , can't sya it's abug yet because my laptop has the same driver/gpu but works fine.
[20:09] <ovidiu-florin> why do we still ship with 2 kwallets?
[20:09] <ovidiu-florin> why do we still need the old one?
[20:10] <ovidiu-florin> BluesKaj: ask him/her to send a stacktrace or something so we can analyze it
[20:12] <Etriaph> ovidiu-florin: The kde 4 wallet is probably for kde 4 apps.
[20:13] <ovidiu-florin> I suspected...
[20:13] <ovidiu-florin> ahoneybun: ping
[20:13] <ahoneybun> sup
[20:14] <ovidiu-florin> have you seen NIcholas's mail? and Rick's reply?
[20:14] <ovidiu-florin> about UOS?
[20:14] <BluesKaj> ovidiu-florin, it's not crashing , system settings doesn't seem to accept his choices in the compositor
[20:14] <ahoneybun> yea
[20:14] <ahoneybun> rick wants to team up with you
[20:14] <ovidiu-florin> let's have a hangout tomorrow with rick and talk about this?
[20:14] <ahoneybun> sure'
[20:15] <ovidiu-florin> shall we say 21 My time?
[20:15] <ovidiu-florin> BluesKaj: starting SS from Konsole prints anything?
[20:15] <ovidiu-florin> ahoneybun: last time it was 21:30
[20:15] <ahoneybun> which would be 14 or 15 mine
[20:16] <ovidiu-florin> ahoneybun: can we make this public?
[20:16] <ahoneybun> as in that the hangout if happening?
[20:16] <ahoneybun> *is
[20:17] <ovidiu-florin> no, I mean make the hangout one of my "how to be a community member" show
[20:18] <ahoneybun> oh your asking if its ok with me to upload it to YouTube?
[20:18] <ovidiu-florin> or better not to, because there will be some planning about stuff, or?
[20:18] <ovidiu-florin> I'll send an email to you and rick and ask about this.
[20:18] <ahoneybun> ok
[20:19] <ovidiu-florin> ahoneybun: can you pm me your email?
[20:24] <ahoneybun> ovidiu-florin: the UOS is public planning anyway lol
[20:26] <ovidiu-florin> then you can reply to my email as such
[20:26] <ahoneybun> ovidiu-florin: since you have exp on HTML and CSS maybe you could help me theme http://docs.kubuntu.org/
[20:27] <ovidiu-florin> sure
[20:28] <ovidiu-florin> can we do this tomorrow?
[20:28] <ahoneybun> of course
[20:28] <ovidiu-florin> it's late now and I just wanted to catch up
[20:28] <ahoneybun> ok I'm taking ideas from http://docs.xubuntu.org/
[20:31] <ovidiu-florin> ahoneybun: that kde theme needs an upgrade
[20:34] <ahoneybun> yes
[20:34] <ahoneybun> we'll talk more tomorrow
[20:35] * ahoneybun goes to work on his van's raduo
[20:35] <ahoneybun> *radio
|
ubuntu-chat
|
2024-05-13T22:11:15.560904
| 2015-04-26T00:00:00 |
{
"license": "Public Domain",
"authors": [
"BluesKaj",
"Etriaph",
"Riddell",
"Tm_T",
"_Groo_",
"ahoneybun",
"darthanubis",
"ejay",
"frecel",
"mitya57",
"mparillo",
"ovidiu-florin",
"snele",
"soee",
"soee_",
"tuv0k",
"vip",
"yofel"
],
"url": "https://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2015/04/26/%23kubuntu-devel.txt",
"channel": "#kubuntu-devel"
}
|
2015-04-26-#ubuntu-br
|
[00:32] <Ernandes> go to jessie party
[02:53] <AlexandreMBM> Meses atrás eu estive por aqui e percebi uma presença do pessoal do Arch Linux. Hoje eu tenho dúvidas nesse sistema e quero saber se vocês aceitam que eu as exponha aqui, já que o #archlinux-br parece meio mudo.
[02:55] <astroo-> poe
[02:56] <AlexandreMBM> O que é "poe"?
[02:56] <astroo-> coloca em "brazileiro"
[02:58] <barack_obama> really? isso deve ser se e o que penso: power over Internet
[02:58] <AlexandreMBM> astroo-, não sei o que isso
[02:58] <KurtKraut> hahahahahhahha
[02:58] <AlexandreMBM> barack_obama, ah! Google?
[02:58] <KurtKraut> AlexandreMBM, Nosso amigo português astroo- quis dizer com 'põe' algo como 'pode por sua pergunta aqui'
[02:59] <barack_obama> yep hahah
[02:59] <AlexandreMBM> KurtKraut, astroo- poe <> põe
[02:59] <KurtKraut> AlexandreMBM, Eu pessoalmente sou avesso a essa ideia e não recomendo que você faça isso aqui. Aliás, recomendo o uso do IRC para tirar dúvidas técnicas a ninguém.
[03:00] <AlexandreMBM> KurtKraut, a primeira parte do período eu entendo e aceito, já a segunda me parece estranha. Por que você não recomenda o uso o IRC para tirar dúvidas técnicas?
[03:00] <AlexandreMBM> *o uso do IRC
[03:00] <KurtKraut> AlexandreMBM, Porque é a pior forma de você obter ajuda e informações e já era para você ter percebido isso.
[03:01] <barack_obama> hahahahahaha astroo- esta és bueno my friend
[03:01] <AlexandreMBM> KurtKraut, depende do tipo de informação. Há coisas muito específicas que o pessoal do IRC no mínima ajuda para encontrarmos as chaves certas a colocarmos no Google.
[03:01] <astroo-> com o meu projeto gratis so peritos tem "mao" na qualidade de informaçao nos canais
[03:02] <AlexandreMBM> astroo-, está difícil entender seu português, viu...
[03:02] <barack_obama> astroo-: fica ai
[03:02] <AlexandreMBM> barack_obama, como assim? "fica quieto"?
[03:02] <barack_obama> AlexandreMBM: ele és meu amigo
[03:02] * AlexandreMBM parece que desaprendeu português!
[03:03] <AlexandreMBM> barack_obama, você é de onde?
[03:03] <astroo-> o meu projeto sera tipo o irc so numa versao profissional em conversas
[03:03] <barack_obama> ca
[03:03] <AlexandreMBM> astroo-, tem link?
[03:03] <AlexandreMBM> astroo-, você tem essa conversa há muito tempo...
[03:04] <astroo-> ha 3 anos e 4 meses
[03:04] <KurtKraut> AlexandreMBM, Fórum é o melhor veículo para suporte comunitário, em segundo lugar e-mail. IRC para isso é uma piada de mal gosto, é o problema que você enfrenta com o #archlinux-br: ninguém responde. Você tem que ter a sorte de falar sua dúvida ao mesmo tempo que quem saiba responder esteja online e lendo. Para gastar sorte assim, é melhor testar jogando na Mega Sena.
[03:04] <barack_obama> ja conhece ele idem? hahaha
[03:05] <KurtKraut> AlexandreMBM, Eu já recomendei ao astroo- que ele buscasse um terapeuta profissional. Essa obsessão dele carece tratamento.
[03:06] <astroo-> diz isso a cerca de 90% das mais de 2000 pessoas que desejam boa sorte ao projeto alem do stallman da gnu e wikimedia
[03:06] <AlexandreMBM> KurtKraut, faz sentido que você falou sobre o acaso. Mas são muitas as vezes que a pessoa consegue uma assistência. Quanto a passar e-mail, o destinatário tem de receber bem, afinal, existe a consultoria profissional, que é remunerada.
[03:07] <AlexandreMBM> astroo-, eu vou explorar o site e conhecer melhor.
[03:07] <barack_obama> astroo-: deveria aprender a escreve códigos, assim ja tiveste feito a projeto
[03:07] <AlexandreMBM> astroo-, tem base de código aberta em algum lugar?
[03:07] <astroo-> eu nao tenho jeito para programar
[03:07] <barack_obama> yep AlexandreMBM
[03:07] <KurtKraut> AlexandreMBM, O que raios tem a ver uma mailing list der suporte com a consultoria profissional?!
[03:07] <astroo-> nao existe programaçao
[03:07] <KurtKraut> AlexandreMBM, Você está bebendo água na mesma fonte que o astroo-!?
[03:08] <AlexandreMBM> KurtKraut, ah! sim, você se referia ás listas de e-mail, e pegue e-mail e tempo também. Mas no final eu tenho de aceitar seu argumento. Realmente são canais efetivos.
[03:08] <astroo-> KurtKraut se fazes parte dos cerca dos 10% que nao deseja boa sorte ao projeto estas no teu direito
[03:08] <AlexandreMBM> astroo-, como assim não existe?
[03:09] <astroo-> so houve tentativas muito basicas em programaçao
[03:09] <KurtKraut> astroo-, Eu desejo é que você se livre deste fato e volte suas energias para projetos reais, concretos, viáveis e úteis ao mundo.
[03:09] <astroo-> o meu esta feito para ser a maior e melhor coisa da net "so" nao e mau...
[03:09] <barack_obama> existe em ruby on rails e esta no github
[03:10] <KurtKraut> AlexandreMBM, Ele tem uma ideia louca de 'rede social' que mistura IRC, wikipédia e tudo o que já existe num novo embrulho e fica torcendo para alguém desenvolva a programação para ele de graça e em prol da humanidade.
[03:10] <AlexandreMBM> KurtKraut, não. Eu já participei um bocado de listas de e-mail. É verdade, soluções vem através delas. Mas um grande problema também: elas viciam você, prendem você, se você leva a coisa a sério. IRC seria mais eventual. Apesar de que eu sei que tem gente que fica aqui 24/7.
[03:10] <KurtKraut> AlexandreMBM, Enfim, um projeto com a missão errada, com valores errados, com objetivos errados, com os meios errados de ser concretizado, sem relevância para o público em geral mas apenas com as intenções certas.
[03:11] <astroo-> KurtKraut faço recordar que a wikimedia dona da wikipedia deseja boa sorte ao meu projeto
[03:11] <KurtKraut> Mas querer não é poder. Não basta querer.
[03:11] <AlexandreMBM> astroo-, tem pelo menos texto (documentação) expondo/arquitetando sua ideia em alto nível?
[03:11] <astroo-> falamos no privado
[03:11] <Rudolf> no Microsoft Project
[03:11] <AlexandreMBM> astroo-, eu não quero teclar
[03:12] <AlexandreMBM> astroo-, eu posso ler um artigo de blog, ou um documento PDF
[03:12] <barack_obama> AlexandreMBM: existe muito crazy haha
[03:12] <AlexandreMBM> astroo-, tem?
[03:12] <KurtKraut> Aí ó, o Mormon-Testemunha-de-Jeová-promotor-Credicard conseguiu a atenção de mais um :D Boa sorte AlexandreMBM
[03:12] <AlexandreMBM> KurtKraut, ele é Mormon?
[03:12] <astroo-> nao tenho blog
[03:12] <Rudolf> kkkkkkkkkkkkk
[03:12] <Rudolf> KurtKraut: deixa ele
[03:12] <Rudolf> KurtKraut: o astroo- é gente boa
[03:12] <KurtKraut> AlexandreMBM, Não, mas é igual um. Fica aqui de tocaia cumprimentando as pessoas para falar desse projeto insano dele. Tentando evangelizar.
[03:12] <AlexandreMBM> astroo-, invés de perder tanto tempo em IRC, escreva um documento com diagramas
[03:13] <barack_obama> poen eke no #socialreal
[03:13] <astroo-> eu tenho alguns
[03:13] <KurtKraut> Rudolf, É exatamente por achar gente boba que desejo muito que esse banho de realidade lave a alma dele.
[03:13] <KurtKraut> *gente boa
[03:13] <barack_obama> auto complete f'
[03:13] <AlexandreMBM> astroo-, então linka aí
[03:13] <KurtKraut> Erro de digitação aí
[03:13] <AlexandreMBM> KurtKraut, não entendi o que você falou ao Rudolf
[03:13] <KurtKraut> AlexandreMBM, E ele faz isso há ANOS!
[03:14] <barack_obama> AlexandreMBM: #social-real
[03:14] <astroo-> KurtKraut http://www.apa.org/news/press/releases/2015/03/internet-knowledge.aspx o teu gosto e esse
[03:14] <AlexandreMBM> KurtKraut, isso dá pena. Eu sei que é verdade. Eu entro esporadicamente, e vejo ele por aqui.
[03:15] <Rudolf> engraçado que vcs falando mal do projeto dele é tão inutil quanto
[03:15] <Rudolf> saravá
[03:15] <KurtKraut> AlexandreMBM, Por isso dei voz a torcida para que ele pare com essa mendicância e vá fazer algo, qualquer outra coisa, empinar uma pipa, assar um bolo, sei lá, qualquer outra coisa.
[03:15] <barack_obama> tiagocds nao junta mais ao canal?
[03:16] <AlexandreMBM> Rudolf, eu não estou falando mal do que nem conheço. Quero conhecer, pelo menos.
[03:16] <AlexandreMBM> Rudolf, estou sugerindo que astroo- expresse as ideias em documentação, textos e diagramas.
[03:17] <Rudolf> AlexandreMBM: vc sabe que é perda de tempo
[03:17] <AlexandreMBM> Rudolf, isso pode ficar online, para o estudo de quem se interessar.
[03:17] <barack_obama> mais tem
[03:17] <AlexandreMBM> Rudolf, pra ele não é.
[03:17] <AlexandreMBM> Rudolf, já que ele mesmo não vai implementar.
[03:17] <AlexandreMBM> barack_obama, onde?
[03:17] <Rudolf> AlexandreMBM: para nós
[03:17] <Rudolf> discutirmos isso
[03:17] <Rudolf> just let it go
[03:17] <astroo-> ja agora quem esta contra e contra o barack_obama e yangm que querem ajudar o meu projeto
[03:18] <barack_obama> #social-real: junta ao canal
[03:18] * AlexandreMBM concorda que deve ir ao #social-real
[03:19] <Rudolf> agora perguntar sobre archlinux no ubuntu-br foi beeeeeeeeeeeeeeem legal também
[03:19] <KurtKraut> hahahah
[03:19] <barack_obama> let it go, let it go... can't hold it back anymore let it go, let it go turn my back and slam the door
[03:19] <yangm> Rudolf, pode me esclarecer uma dúvida de windows? eu sei que é o canal do ubuntu mas eu vi falarem windows por aqui
[03:20] <Rudolf> yangm: pergunte logo, não pergunte se pode perguntar
[03:20] <yangm> #sarcasm
[03:20] <barack_obama> como preceder a instalacao de ie8 no ubuntu
[03:20] <AlexandreMBM> yangm, foi mal
[03:21] <AlexandreMBM> yangm, mas aqui tinha bastante Arch
[03:21] <barack_obama> Ele esta a abrir.exe em gedit lol
[03:21] <Rudolf> ubuntu-br virou evento oficial troll?
[03:21] <yangm> mas bom saber que posso te perguntar de windows :P
[03:21] <Rudolf> yangm: pode perguntar, mas não quer dizer que alguém vai responder
[03:21] <yangm> hehe
[03:21] <Rudolf> barack_obama: quem está abrindo exe com gedit?
[03:22] <barack_obama> o ubuntu nao esta a abrir o arquivo ie8.exe e abre o gedit para eu escrever texto
[03:22] <Rudolf> holy shit
[03:22] <yangm> lol
[03:22] <Rudolf> e a culpa é do ubuntu
[03:23] <yangm> evento oficial troll hehe
[03:23] <AlexandreMBM> https://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/talk-br/2014-December/009258.html
[03:24] <Rudolf> barack_obama: você não sabe que EXE não são arquivos para ambiente linux?
[03:24] <Rudolf> barack_obama: faz um file arquivo.exe
[03:24] <barack_obama> troll event bro
[03:24] <Rudolf> barack_obama: e um file em um arquivo qualquer no /usr/bin
[03:24] <barack_obama> no worries
[03:24] <Rudolf> im not worried dude
[03:24] <barack_obama> haha
[03:24] <Rudolf> im watchin Kung Fu Panda 2
[03:25] <barack_obama> nice
[03:25] <yangm> the book is on the table
[03:26] <Rudolf> and the moron are trying to read it
[03:27] <astroo-> o nick codeman se tivesse tempo tambem ajudava no projeto
[03:28] * AlexandreMBM não está mais teclando coisas quaisquer no #ubuntu-br
[03:28] <hggdh_> barack_obama: ok. Basta, por favor
[03:28] <barack_obama> okay
[03:29] <Rudolf> vish
[03:29] <Rudolf> the Kraken was released
[03:30] <hggdh_> Rudolf: yep. This is it.
[03:30] <Rudolf> hggdh_: ice man, ice
[03:30] <yangm> daqui a pouco o canal vira english only
[03:30] <Rudolf> yangm: maybe, who knows
[03:30] <yangm> que nem os shows do tim maia
[03:30] <Rudolf> hggdh_: me manda aquele link de fisica de novo
[03:30] <yangm> pera, é outro gordão
[03:31] <Rudolf> hggdh_: acabou a força e eu estava fazendo downalo da iso do matlab
[03:31] <Rudolf> hggdh_: queria fazer o download o livro
[03:32] <hggdh_> Rudolf: são cinco ou seis volumes, mais o git clone
[03:41] <hggdh_> Rudolf: http://motionmountain.net/
[03:50] <Hudsonkem> Ola?
[03:51] <astroo-> ola
[03:52] <AlexandreMBM> Hudsonkem, diz
[03:55] <Hudsonkem> estou com um problema na inicialização
[03:55] <yangm> fui
[03:55] <Hudsonkem> quando a interface do lightdm carrega o cursor esta invisivel
[03:56] <Hudsonkem> uso a versão xubuntu15.04
[04:09] <astroo-> ciao pessoal
[04:09] <barack_obama> ciao astroo-
[04:09] <astroo-> ciao
[04:34] <Hudsonkem> alguem que saiba sobre o xubuntu?
[11:59] <barna> bom dia.
[12:00] <barna> alguem tem ideia de como faço pra que todo arquivo criado numa determinada pasta seja criado já com a permissões 777 (rwxrwxrwx)??
[12:55] <simoes> Depois que atualizei para o 1504 a central de programas desapareceu, inatalei de novo e desapareceu de novo
[12:57] <barna> consegui usando o umask!
[12:57] <barna> simoes, nossa, como assim? ela se audo-desinstala?
[12:58] <barna> ou sera q só sumiu o atalho?
[12:58] <simoes> Exatamente simplesmente desaparece, mesmopelo trerminal diz que não está instalada.
[13:00] <barna> ai vc da um apt-get install software-center e ela volta depois some?
[13:01] <simoes> Extamente, mas não é imediato, só não tenho certeza se é só depois do boot.
[13:01] <barna> simoes, vc atualizou do 14.x pro 15.04 ou fez uma instalação limpa?
[13:03] <simoes> do 1410, somem alguns itens da configuração do sistema, impressora e atualizações.
[13:04] <barna> simoes, 2 coisas, as versões não-LTS são paciveis de de bug mesmo!
[13:04] <barna> caso vc queira ficar no 15.04 mesmo, te aconselho fazer uma instalação nova/limpa.
[13:04] <barna> se vc não quiser bugs te aconselho a usar a 14.04 LTS
[13:04] <simoes> notei agora o hplip também foi para o saco.
[13:05] <barna> simoes, vc ta usando o /home numa partição separada?
[13:06] <simoes> não está tudo junto, tenho o Windows separado.
[13:08] <simoes> Tenho uma terceira partição com dados comuns.
[13:08] <barna> ai da mais trabalho, eu sempre deixo o /home separado, hoje mesmo fui brincar e travei meu sistema, só formatei a partição do sistema e re-instalei, pronto voltou tudo ao normal, todos meus arquivos lá, minhas configurações do desktop, as abas abertas nos navegares, tudo como tava antes.
[13:09] <simoes> Tenho backup semanal.
[13:10] <barna> então ta facil......
[13:10] <simoes> Obhrigado, vou tentar.
[13:11] <barna> de nada.
[13:12] <jxajro> Saudações a todos!
[13:13] <jxajro> Pelo amor de Deus alguém lembra como chama o create launcher no ubuntu 14.04????
[13:13] <barna> jxajro, q é create launcher?
[13:14] <jxajro> ???
[13:14] <jxajro> perai
[13:14] <jxajro> http://askubuntu.com/questions/64222/how-can-i-create-launchers-on-my-desktop
[13:14] <jxajro> é esse quadrinho aí.
[13:15] <jxajro> Eu lembro dele em outras versões mas não sei como fazer aparecer nesta.
[13:15] <barna> vc ta no 15 jxajro ?
[13:16] <jxajro> não. To no 14
[13:16] <barna> jxajro, aki tb num tem.... bom eu to numa versão beeeeeeem modificada.
[13:16] <jxajro> é que eu consegui instalar um programa que simula minha calculadora HP42S mas pra lançar tem que ser pelo terminal...
[13:17] <barna> jxajro, lembro q tem um app q cria atalhos no 14.04 bem melhor q esse, cha ver se acho aki
[13:17] <jxajro> abro o terminal dou o comando free42bin e ele aparece maaaas....
[13:17] <jxajro> quero saber como faz um atalho na área de trabalho.
[13:17] <jxajro> oi barna...não precisa ser melhor...esse mesmo tá bom.
[13:18] <barna> ah, cria um .dekstop /usr/share/applications
[13:18] <jxajro> eu lembro que no 13..e no xubuntu tinha ele automático mas neste aqui to apanhando pra colocar.
[13:19] <jxajro> ah é? engraçado....eu instalei conforme indicou um site aí.... mas na hora de executar veio uma mensagem que se referia a isso.. perai...
[13:20] <barna> jxajro, gnome-panel
[13:21] <barna> jxajro, http://dporlandi.blogspot.com.br/2013/02/criar-atalho-na-area-de-trabalho-do.html
[13:21] <jxajro> ai sei lá.. não acho mais a mensagem...
[13:21] <jxajro> ok..vou ver..perai.
[13:22] <jxajro> AAAH...era isso que eu estava procurando!!!!
[13:22] <jxajro> _em_português_!!!
[13:22] <barna> só perguntar pro google.
[13:22] <jxajro> sim eu tava perguntando pra ele mas ele só respondia em ingles...kkkkk
[13:23] <jxajro> só um minuto vou ver.
[13:23] <Afranio> galera, começando a usar o ubuntu pela primeira vez... preciso utilizar um antivirus? e qual e onde encontro?
[13:24] <jxajro> puts!!!!!
[13:24] <jxajro> _bingo_!!!
[13:24] <jxajro> Minha nossa senhora!!!!
[13:24] <jxajro> estava apanhando por causa de umas letras idiotas!
[13:24] <barna> Afranio, Seja Bem Vindo !
[13:25] <jxajro> obrigado barna!!!
[13:25] <barna> heheheheheeheh
[13:25] <barna> jxajro, de nada
[13:25] <Afranio> pq segundo meu professor existem alguns virus de linux por ae. Obrigado barna
[13:25] <barna> Afranio, não precisa usar anti-virus não.
[13:25] <jxajro> meu erro é que eu estava colocando em inglês... /Desktop/... e o certo era em português ó raios!
[13:25] <Afranio> fui tentar particionar meu hd ontem e deu merda. kkkkk agora to soh com o linux. kkkkk
[13:26] <barna> Afranio, já ouvi uma lenda desses tais virus de linux, mas nunca vi ou ouvi ninguem q os tivesse pegos.
[13:26] <jxajro> bom..valeu...agora vou voltar aqui....minha nossa! ..... :-D kkk obrigado mais uma vez.
[13:27] <barna> Afranio, o q rola é do camarada instalar o wine, e rodar algum programa de windows com virus no wine, ai da m.......
[13:27] <Afranio> ah sim
[13:27] <Afranio> eu nao consegui particionar... daí achei que tinha conseguido e deu m%&
[13:28] <Afranio> mas de qq maneira está melhor do que meu windows 8
[13:28] <barna> Afranio, como q vc tava fazendo?
[13:28] <Afranio> detalhe: 8.1 eh horrivel
[13:28] <Afranio> cara, nem me lembro pq tinha um mundo de opções... achei que seria fácil como no windows que te mostra o hd, a opção e excluir e tals... mas nao foi não... rsrsrs
[13:29] <barna> meu ultimo comp com windows tinha win xp, depois disse só linux, ai tempo atraz fui usar o comp de um amigo com w8, fiquei parado na frente dele sem saber o q fazer! me senti um velilho olhando prum computador sem saber como usar! foi engraçado D+
[13:30] <Afranio> a mesma coisa que aconteceu comigo quando abri a tela do ubuntu ontem
[13:30] <Afranio> o que me diz do fedora?
[13:30] <barna> Afranio, no ubuntu eu uso o gparted pra isso, faz muito bem o serviço, todo em modo grafico etc... mas particionar vc tem saber MUITO bem o q vc ta fazendo!
[13:30] <Afranio> mas eu nao tinha nada de importante salvo... só 4 filmes mesmo... pq deixo tdo no meu hd externo
[13:31] <barna> teve sorte, ja passei altos perrengues pra recuperar dados de comp q kra foi particionar e fez m.... cheio de coisas importantes.
[13:32] <Afranio> kkkkkk
[13:32] <Afranio> meu note não tem nem um ano...
[13:32] <Afranio> nao deixo nada nele
[13:32] <barna> Afranio, nunca usei fedora, fico mais no ubuntu e as vezes brinco com o debian, esses tempo brinquei com opensuse, gostei dele, só não me dei bem com o kde
[13:33] <Afranio> queria saber sobre os downloads em torrent... como farei agora?
[13:33] <barna> Afranio, da mesma forma q no win, ja tem instalado o transmission, q é o equivalente oa utorrent no ubuntu
[13:34] <barna> só clicar 2x no .torrent ou clicar no magnect link
[13:34] <Afranio> jah vem junto?
[13:34] <barna> sim, procura ai no "iniciar", aki chama dash
[13:34] <barna> pode digitar torrent q ele aparece tb
[13:35] <barna> Afranio, acho ele melhor q o utorrent, vc pode fazer controle de banda, programar horarios/velocidades de down e up, pra num comer toda a banda etc...
[13:36] <Afranio> achei ele aqui
[13:36] <Afranio> e na hora de baixar eu baixo na opção torrent normal?
[13:36] <Afranio> eu posso imaginar que ele eh um torrent certo?
[13:36] <barna> Afranio, vc que gosta de video pelo visto, instala o smplayer, acho ele bem gostoso, já abre as legendas etc.
[13:37] <Afranio> isso que eu ia te perguntar tbm...
[13:37] <barna> Afranio, sim, faz 100% do q um programa de torrente de windows e mais uns 20%
[13:37] <Afranio> o que instalo para meus seriados rmvb?
[13:39] <Afranio> ah sim
[13:39] <Afranio> que da hora
[13:39] <Afranio> vou fazer um teste aqui com os filmes que eu perdi
[13:39] <Afranio> rsrsrs
[13:39] <barna> Afranio, abre a central de programas e vai em editar>canais de software, na aba Aplicativos Ubuntu marca todo os quadradinhos, vai na aba outros programas e marca parceiros da canonical e independentes e clica em fechar
[13:40] <barna> o icone de processo vai ficar girando um tempo, quando acabar, procura por Ubuntu-restricted-extras
[13:41] <barna> vai instalar todos os codecs de video, musica, dvd, alguem de pacotes pra todos os arquivos compactados (.zip, .rar etc...) java, flash, e tudo essas coisas, vai deixar o sistema 100% pronto pro usuario comum.
[13:41] <Afranio> não tem editar aqui nao. rsrsrs
[13:41] <Afranio> mandei abrir um rmvb aqui e ele tah instalando um pcte aki jah
[13:41] <Afranio> =)
[13:41] <barna> coloca o mouse na barra superior, lá encima aquela barra preta!
[13:41] <barna> q vai aparecer
[13:42] <barna> Afranio, coloca o Ubuntu-restricted-extras pra ja deixar tudo no jeito
[13:43] <barna> Afranio, qual versão do ubuntu vc ta usando?
[13:45] <Afranio> periiii aperta nao se nao eu deito. kkk to lah em cima ainda. rsrsrs
[13:46] <barna> heheheehehehehehhehehe
[13:48] <Afranio> pronto
[13:48] <Afranio> jah tah baixando
[13:48] <barna> :)
[13:49] <barna> Afranio, ele vai abrir/rodar praticamente qualquer tipo de arquivo agora.
[13:49] <barna> exeto os programas de windows claro.
[13:50] <Afranio> enquanto isso, do meu lado esquerdo tem os ícones com interrogação... estão instalando pctes... depois de instalados eles saem?
[13:50] <barna> sim
[13:50] <barna> Afranio, qual versão do ubuntu vc ta usando?
[13:50] <Afranio> to atualizando para 15.04
[13:51] <Afranio> unicorn
[13:53] <barna> Afranio, vc sabe q essa é uma versão "test" né? ele só tem atualização por 6 meses depois é abandonado.....
[13:54] <barna> e está altamente sujeito a bugs
[13:55] <Afranio> ai meu deus... entao quer dizer que nao devemos atualizar nossos SO?
[13:56] <barna> Afranio, nops, no ubuntu atualizar é bom, diferente do windows q vc fica com o coração na mão pra ver se vai ligar de novo.
[13:56] <barna> Afranio, é q o ubuntu faz a cada 2 anos uma versão "final" LTS, que vai ter suporte e atualização pro mais ou menos 5 anos.
[13:57] <Afranio> então, o que faço com essa atualização??
[13:57] <Afranio> deixo rolar?
[13:57] <barna> e a cada 6 meses uma versão de "teste" pra testar as inovações, melhorias etc... mas como estão testando sempre pode dar bugs, ai depois de 6 meses quando lança a nova versão de "teste" eles largam a antiga pra traz....
[13:58] <Afranio> cancelei a atualização entao
[13:58] <Afranio> kkkkk
[13:58] <barna> Afranio, a priore deixa rolar, como acabou de sair o 15.04 (acho q saiu tem 2 ou 3 dias) vc vai ter 6 meses de atualizações, mas se começar a de pau, num fala q o linux é ruim, vc q ta usando uma versão experimental.....
[13:59] <barna> o ideal era vc usar uma LTS, feita pra uso cotidianos, estavel, com muito menos chance de bugs etc...
[13:59] <barna> a ultima LTS é o 14.04
[13:59] <barna> o chato é instalar tudo de novo!
[13:59] <Afranio> cancelei aki
[13:59] <Afranio> xo ver pra qual versão voltou
[14:01] <Afranio> 14.10
[14:01] <barna> Afranio, essa cabou de ser abandonada.
[14:01] <barna> saiu de linha dia 22/04
[14:02] <Afranio> afsssss....
[14:02] <Afranio> mas tava no site pra download... então achei que era a mais nova e segura
[14:02] <Afranio> rsrsrs
[14:02] <Afranio> mas ela nao eh instavel não eh?
[14:02] <barna> eu vou de LTS em LTS, instalo as outras só pra ver como q ta ficando, mas nunca pra uso mesmo, só pra brincar!
[14:02] <Afranio> pq meu pc tah bem melhor com linux cara
[14:02] <barna> Afranio, e sempre vai ficar! HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
[14:03] <barna> e eu achado o ubuntu 14.04 "pesado"
[14:03] <Afranio> velho, tah notavel
[14:03] <Afranio> tah rapidim
[14:04] <Afranio> nao trava paginas do facebook
[14:04] <barna> esses dias fui usar um super-notebook (I7 quarta geração, 32gbram, SSD 500GB) com w8 (ja aprendi a usar ele), vei q carroça!
[14:04] <barna> o meu q ja tem 4 anos com um ubuntu que eu mesmo construi (pensando em velocidade) tava dando um pau no do meu amigo!
[14:05] <barna> assim, Afranio mesmo sendo uma versão teste, sempre é muito mais estavel q o windows!
[14:05] <Afranio> tah pedindo aqui atualizações de programas para a versão 14.10....
[14:05] <Afranio> instalo ou não?
[14:06] <barna> se for de programas pode instalar.
[14:06] <Afranio> ou vc acha que devo procurar na net uma versão tls e formatar novamente meu pc?
[14:08] <Afranio> fiquei meio inseguro com o que me disse... sobre ser abandonado e tals...
[14:09] <barna> kra, se vc tiver com todo o saco do mundo de re-instalar....... http://www.ubuntu.com/download/desktop
[14:10] <barna> pra vc ta começando eu sugiro sempre o LTS
[14:10] <Afranio> mas vc acha perigoso eu ficar com a 14.10?
[14:10] <barna> Afranio, acho q não, não cheguei a testar o 14.10, to feliz aki no meu 14.04!
[14:11] <Afranio> ah sim...
[14:11] <Afranio> então to pensando no seguinte...
[14:11] <Afranio> ficar com ela de boa
[14:11] <Afranio> jah que os desenvolvedores não mexem mais nela,
[14:12] <barna> agora q vc ja instalou.....
[14:12] <Afranio> não corre tantos riscos...
[14:12] <Afranio> a menos que eu atualize eh claro
[14:12] <Afranio> corrreto?
[14:13] <barna> pensando desse jeito, sim.
[14:14] <barna> pra mim, formatar é algo cotidiano, só hoje já foram 3
[14:14] <barna> nesse momento to instalando + um ubuntu em VM aki pra testes de pxe
[14:15] <Afranio> hum... sim
[14:16] <Afranio> mas de qq forma, como meu pc não fica com nada salvo, e adoro fazer testes....
[14:16] <Afranio> as atualizações me instigam
[14:16] <Afranio> rsrsrs
[14:17] <Afranio> cara, vc eh um suporte e tanto viu/?
[14:17] <Afranio> rsrsrs
[14:17] <barna> Afranio, uai, então manda a ver no 15.04
[14:17] <Afranio> vou ter que sair pq tenho q escanear uns livros ali
[14:17] <Afranio> eh isso que to querendo fazer. rsrsrs
[14:17] <barna> Afranio, blz! vai lá
[14:18] <barna> adoro ajudar, ja me ajudaram muito aki, agora é minha vez de retribuir!
[14:18] <Afranio> =)
[15:47] <Hudsonkem> problema com cursor invisivel, quando lightdm carrega já esta com o cursor invisivel, já tentei uma coisa que achei gsettings set org.gnome.settings-daemon.plugins.cursor active false mas n achou o schema alguma sujeitão?
[15:48] <Hudsonkem> sim minha distro é xubuntu 15.04
[16:04] <The> Ola alguém já testou o novo ubuntu?
[16:04] <Hudsonkem> eu to testando o xubuntu 15.04
[16:05] <The> E como está? Tá estável?
[16:05] <Hudsonkem> vey eu só to com problema na ora de iniciar q as vezes o cursor fica invisivel fora isso ta muito bom
[16:05] <Hudsonkem> e em um pc que instalei (amigo meu) ta rodando perfeitamente
[16:06] <Hudsonkem> vc ta em que versão do ubuntu?
[16:07] <The> Na 14.10
[16:08] <Hudsonkem> entendo, eu tive alguns problemas com a 14.10 problemas graphicos entre outras coisas.
[16:08] <Hudsonkem> o ubuntu 14.10 para ser espercifico
[16:08] <The> O meu ta tranquilo.
[16:09] <Hudsonkem> mas tipo, vc ta querendo ver se vale a pena atualizar?
[16:10] <The> Nao vou atualizar não compensa tem suporte para 9 meses o 15
[16:10] <Hudsonkem> ^^ mas tipo o legal é o novo kernel que achei bacana
[16:11] <The> Pois é preciso arrumar o pc mais batido para usar de laboratório
[16:12] <The> Nesse note ja tenho o win 8.1 e ubuntu
[16:12] <Hudsonkem> hm... funciona bem o teu dual?
[16:13] <The> Me diz ai não precisa fazer registro de nick aqui?
[16:13] <The> Funciona
[16:13] <Hudsonkem> não precisa
[16:13] <Hudsonkem> no meu caso eu uso o programa para ubuntu encontrado na central de aplicativos o xchat
[16:14] <The> Isso também acho uso esse é para android to testando
[16:15] <Hudsonkem> ^^ bom com ele vc entra nos IRC chats facilmente
[16:16] <The> Verdade. Disseram que se nao registrar nao fala com alguem individual
[16:16] <Hudsonkem> sim, pq vc disse que a 15 vai ser só 9 meses? o normal não é versões .04 serem lts e as .10 serem 9 meses não?
[16:17] <Hudsonkem> se tem como registra nunca vi isso, pq eu tava usando no site freenode para entrar nesse chat.
[16:17] <xGrind> Hudsonkem, versões LTS sao lançadas a cada 2 anos
[16:18] <xGrind> a ultima foi a 14.04, a proxima sera a 16.04
[16:18] <Hudsonkem> xGrind obrigado pela correção :)
[16:18] <xGrind> =)
[16:19] <Hudsonkem> agora compreendo pq falam que a 14.04 é a versão estavel entendi agora.
[16:20] <The> Dizem que essa 14.10 é lts
[16:20] <The> Sei lá
[16:22] <Hudsonkem> acho que não o pessoal falou bastante mal sobre essa versão, apesar de não ter encontrado nada que não de para minimizar
[16:24] <xGrind> 14.10 nao é lts
[16:25] <Hudsonkem> ^^ pareceu que nos vimos o'que vc falou xGrind mas é vdd n é :)
[16:26] <xGrind> antes as versões nao lts eram suportadas por 18 meses e lts eram por 3 anos pra desktop e 5 pra servidor. depois mudaram pra 5 anos desktop para o lts e 9 meses nao lts
[16:28] <Hudsonkem> ouvi dizer que lts 3 anos
[16:31] <The> É tá zuado, mas tá bom desde que sejam estáveis
[16:31] <Hudsonkem> ^^ yep, des de que eu sai do windows eu tenho tido uma boa experiencia, eu sou programador então foi muito interessante conhecer o mundo linux
[16:32] <Hudsonkem> apesar de ser muito nub ainda, mas conto com todos para compartilhar seus conhecimentos
[16:34] <hggdh> LTS, para desktop e server, agora tem suporte de 5 anos
[16:34] <Hudsonkem> eu to tentando roda o pcsx2 alguma ideia?
[16:36] <The> Vou sair aqui do cel estarei na pc como ubuntu_fag
[16:36] <Hudsonkem> ok
[16:40] <abiamarpin> Olá para todxs! EStou com um probleminha no meu computador. Há cerca de 4 dias, sempre que conecto ou desconecto o cabo de energia, o ubuntu trava e preciso reiniciar. A coincidência, é que fiz a atualização do SO por esses dias também. Alguém poderia me ajudar?
[16:41] <Hudsonkem> atualização comum ou mudou de versão da sua distro?
[16:42] <abiamarpin> Instalou o 15.04
[16:42] <abiamarpin> Sou meio ignorante em assuntos técnicos
[16:43] <abiamarpin> Não sei se mudou de versão
[16:43] <Hudsonkem> é porque o recomendado é vc fazer uma instalação limpa do OS
[16:43] <Hudsonkem> vc estava usando qual versão?
[16:44] <abiamarpin> 14.04
[16:45] <Hudsonkem> bota esse comando e cola aki a saida>> uname -a
[16:46] <abiamarpin> no programa terminal?
[16:46] <Hudsonkem> no terminal :) para abrir o terminal ctrl+alt+t
[16:47] <abiamarpin> Linux abiamarpin-270E5G-270E5U 3.19.0-15-generic #15-Ubuntu SMP Thu Apr 16 23:32:37 UTC 2015 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux
[16:47] <xGrind> digita cat /etc/issue
[16:47] <xGrind> ai no terminal
[16:48] <Hudsonkem> vixi da um pulo de versão assim complicado mas vamo tentar resolver
[16:49] <abiamarpin> nn tinha a menor ideia q seria arriscado
[16:50] <abiamarpin> pior q fiz sozinha a partição do hd e acho que não está certa
[16:50] <abiamarpin> =/
[16:50] <abiamarpin> estou com todos arquivos com back up
[16:50] <abiamarpin> se for melhor formatar e reinstalar, sem problemas
[16:50] <Hudsonkem> ok, bom para esclarecer
[16:51] <Hudsonkem> quando vc atualizar algumas configurações da antiga versão podem atrapalhar no funcionamento da nova já que foi aprimorado e mudada algumas coisas
[16:52] <Hudsonkem> já vi muitos relatos de usuarios que atualizaram de uma distro para outra e tiveram problemas
[16:52] <Hudsonkem> já tento o'que o xGrind disse?
[16:52] <Hudsonkem> no terminal >> cat /etc/issue
[16:53] <abiamarpin> vou fazer
[16:53] <abiamarpin> cat /etc/issue
[16:53] <abiamarpin> Ubuntu 15.04 \n \l
[16:54] <Hudsonkem> ^^
[16:54] <Hudsonkem> deixar eu pensar aqui, só um momento
[16:55] <abiamarpin> sem pressa, agradeço a atençao
[16:57] <sistematico> Boa tarde...
[16:57] <sistematico> abiamarpin: É um computador portátil ou desktop?
[16:57] <abiamarpin> note book
[16:58] <sistematico> abiamarpin: Sabe abrir um terminal?
[16:59] <sistematico> abiamarpin: Você está usando o sistema agora?
[16:59] <abiamarpin> sim
[17:00] <sistematico> Abra um terminal e digite isto: sudo fdisk -l
[17:00] <abiamarpin> estou usando o navegador e o leitor de pdf
[17:00] <sistematico> Cole a saída em http://paste.ubuntu.com
[17:00] <sistematico> E passe o link aqui.
[17:01] <sistematico> fsidk é uma ferramenta de partições, e a flag -l é pra listar as partições do seu PC.
[17:02] <Hudsonkem> sistematico vc acha que tem relação com particionamento?
[17:02] <sistematico> Dificilmente.
[17:02] <Hudsonkem> lol
[17:02] <sistematico> :)
[17:03] <abiamarpin> http://paste.ubuntu.com/10900097/
[17:03] <Hudsonkem> qual é a marca do seu notebook abiamarpin?
[17:03] <abiamarpin> samsumg
[17:04] <sistematico> Olha...
[17:05] <sistematico> Tem alguma coisa muito errada aí.
[17:05] <marcelomauro> Pessoal boa tarde. Acho que fiz bobagem aqui no meu eclipse on Ubuntu. Tentei fazer uma atualização pelo próprio eclipse, para habilitar a perspectiva para C/C++ e agora nem o editor de texto dele aparece
[17:05] <Hudsonkem> mds
[17:05] <Hudsonkem> sistematico vc acha pow? lol
[17:05] <marcelomauro> Já tentei reinstalação pelo sinaptic e nada
[17:05] <sistematico> abiamarpin: /dev/sda2 1758212096 1953523711 195311616 93,1G Linux swap
[17:05] <sistematico> Repare nessa linha...
[17:06] <Hudsonkem> eu tive um susto tbm
[17:06] <sistematico> SWAP nenhum deveria ter 93GB
[17:06] <sistematico> :)
[17:06] <Hudsonkem> marcelomauro só um momento
[17:06] <marcelomauro> blz
[17:06] <abiamarpin> o q eu faço? o q isso significa?
[17:06] <sistematico> abiamarpin: Meu SWAP é 1GB e eu tenho 16GB de RAM.
[17:07] <abiamarpin> O modelo é esse: NOTEBOOK SAMSUNG ATIV BOOK 2 270E5G KD2
[17:07] <Hudsonkem> eu deixo 4gb pq eu sou doido kkk
[17:07] <sistematico> O SWAP deve ser mais ou menos proporcional a sua RAM, mas eu acredito que mais de 1GB de swap seja desnecessário em quase qualquer caso.
[17:07] <sistematico> Hudsonkem: Meu SWAP nunca passou de 200MB
[17:08] <Hudsonkem> sistematico eu só n travei convertendo uma imagem de 50.000 px pq eu fiz isso kkk
[17:08] <Hudsonkem> abiamarpin vc vai reinstalar seu sistema
[17:08] <Hudsonkem> esse site vai da uma ideia doque fazer
[17:08] <Hudsonkem> http://www.vivaolinux.com.br/dica/Instalando-Ubuntu-1404-LTS
[17:08] <sistematico> E quando menos usa-lo, melhor, swap é uma "reserva" pra RAM, e você só vai usa-lo efetivamente se usar muito o recurso de hibernar.
[17:08] <abiamarpin> ok
[17:09] <Hudsonkem> vc vai fazer quase a msm coisa só q com o 15.04 ok?
[17:09] <abiamarpin> tem o cd de instalação do 14.04
[17:09] <abiamarpin> só tenho o cd de instalação do 14.04
[17:09] <Hudsonkem> baixa direitinho o ubuntu 15.04 se for de preferencia, no site oficial, depois confere a md5sum
[17:09] <abiamarpin> acho q nn tenho disco pra queimar a ova versão
[17:09] <abiamarpin> mas me diz como faz q a amanha resolvo isso
[17:09] <Hudsonkem> vc tem um pen drive de 2gb?
[17:10] <sistematico> abiamarpin: Você tem 931,5 GiB de HD, pode usar uns 200GB pra partição /, 1GB pro SWAP e o resto pra /home
[17:11] <abiamarpin> acho q sim
[17:11] <sistematico> abiamarpin: Mas essa é minha opnião, você pode usar outro esquema de particionamento ou usar o particionamento automático do Ubuntu, basta escolher "Usar o disco inteiro" na hora da instalação.
[17:11] <sistematico> Ou algo assim...
[17:12] <Hudsonkem> vou dizer como o meu hd de 500gb estar particionado
[17:12] <abiamarpin> certo
[17:12] <abiamarpin> o lance é q quando tem q fazer a partição, pedem informações sobre o tipo de arquivo e eu fico meio perdida
[17:13] <abiamarpin> não tem o instalador do 15.04? vou instalar o 14.04 de novo?
[17:13] <sistematico> marcelomauro: Eu sugiro remover e reinstalar.
[17:13] <Hudsonkem> sda1 /boot 365mb, sda2 / 100gb, sda3 swap 4gb, sda4 partição que eu coloco coisas o resto 380gb
[17:13] <marcelomauro> sistematico, eu já fiz isso
[17:13] <sistematico> marcelomauro: Certo.
[17:13] <marcelomauro> quer dizer, reinstalei pelo sinaptic
[17:14] <marcelomauro> precisa remover por completo?
[17:14] <sistematico> marcelomauro: Remova tudo pelo apt mesmo, e busque qualquer traço dele usando o find.
[17:14] <sistematico> marcelomauro: sudo spt-get purge PACOTE
[17:14] <sistematico> marcelomauro: sudo apt-get purge PACOTE
[17:14] <Hudsonkem> antes vejá
[17:15] <sistematico> sudo find / -iname "*eclipse*"
[17:15] <Hudsonkem> terminal >> apt-cache show eclipse
[17:15] <Hudsonkem> e veja quais são as dependencias que ele instala
[17:15] <Hudsonkem> abiamarpin
[17:16] <Hudsonkem> vou chama pm ok
[17:16] <sistematico> marcelomauro: dpkg -L PACOTE vai mostrar tudo que o pacote instala.
[17:16] <Hudsonkem> opa melhor que meu comando kkk
[17:16] <sistematico> marcelomauro: Recomendo tambem instalar o apt-file porque ele mostra de quem é determinado arquivo.
[17:17] <marcelomauro> tou confuso
[17:17] <marcelomauro> duas informações ao mesmo tempo
[17:17] <sistematico> sudo apt-get install apt-file && sudo apt-file update && apt-file update
[17:17] <marcelomauro> Hudsonkem, seu comando primeiro esta me retornando uma infinidade de saindas
[17:18] <marcelomauro> sistematico, calma ai ... o que devo fazer primeiro. O purge?
[17:18] <Hudsonkem> kkk deve ser muitas dependencias
[17:18] <Hudsonkem> da um ctrl+c no terminal
[17:19] <sistematico> é
[17:20] <marcelomauro> ok, vamos lá
[17:21] <sistematico> marcelomauro: find ~ -iname "*eclipse*"
[17:21] <sistematico> E cola a saída em http://paste.ubuntu.com
[17:21] <marcelomauro> depois do apt=get purge eclipse?
[17:21] <sistematico> é
[17:21] <marcelomauro> fiz e retornou ainda uma infinaidade de coisas
[17:21] <sistematico> sudo apt-get purge eclipse
[17:21] <marcelomauro> no diretorio /var
[17:22] <marcelomauro> no /usr
[17:22] <marcelomauro> o que faço?
[17:22] <sistematico> Se retornou o diretório /var é porque executou um comando diferente do último que eu passei.
[17:22] <sistematico> find ~ -iname "*eclipse*"
[17:23] <marcelomauro> ok
[17:24] <marcelomauro> retornou muitos arquivos no /home/marcelo/.eclipse
[17:24] <sistematico> marcelomauro: Ok.
[17:25] <Hudsonkem> sistematico vou deixar ele com vc vou resolver o do abiamarpin
[17:25] <sistematico> marcelomauro: Vou passar um comando, só que procura não errar ele, senão ele vai apagar coisa que não era pra apagar...
[17:25] <sistematico> marcelomauro: rm -rf /home/marcelo/.eclipse
[17:25] <sistematico> marcelomauro: Depois disso: sudo apt-get install eclipse
[17:26] <marcelomauro> certo
[17:26] <sistematico> marcelomauro: Isso vai apagar todas as suas preferencias do Eclipse.
[17:26] <marcelomauro> rodei o comando anterior para conferir e ainda aparecem algumas coisas
[17:26] <marcelomauro> .metada
[17:26] <marcelomauro> p ex.
[17:26] <marcelomauro> /home/marcelo/workspace/.metadata/.plugins/org.eclipse.jdt.junit.core
[17:27] <marcelomauro> apago esses diretorios tb?
[17:27] <sistematico> Aí vai de vc, eu apagaria.
[17:27] <sistematico> rm /home/marcelo/workspace/.metadata/.plugins/org.eclipse.jdt.junit.core
[17:27] <marcelomauro> vou apagar, quero deixar limpo, não tem nada exatamente importante
[17:28] <marcelomauro> Mas eu digo apagar todo o /.metada
[17:28] <sistematico> Acho que pode.
[17:28] <sistematico> rm -r /home/marcelo/workspace/.metadata/
[17:28] <marcelomauro> sistematico, eu quero deixar o eclipse preparado para java, C/C++ e python
[17:28] <sistematico> Entendo.
[17:29] <sistematico> Depois que apagar tudo relativo ao Eclipse da sua /home instale ele e ele vai rodar Default.
[17:30] <sistematico> marcelomauro: Pode usar o Synaptic ou o comando sudo apt-get install eclipse
[17:30] <Hudsonkem> vc atualizou certo? então vá no site official e baixa a versão resente para o ubuntu
[17:32] <sistematico> Hudsonkem: Só que tem um porém aí...
[17:32] <sistematico> Hudsonkem: Se ele for aqui por exemplo: https://www.eclipse.org/downloads/
[17:33] <sistematico> E clicar na primeira opção, ele vai baixar um tar.gz
[17:33] <sistematico> Dificilmente ele sabera o que fazer com esse source
[17:33] <sistematico> heh
[17:33] <Hudsonkem> '-' vc tem razão, desculpe minha falta de atenção
[17:35] <sistematico> Mesmo sendo um pouco desatualizado, eu ainda recomendo a versão dos reposítórios do Ubuntu, porque eu não tenho certeza, mas a versão dos repositórios pode conter algum patch específico pro Ubuntu.
[17:35] <sistematico> Alguns programas tem.
[17:36] <Hudsonkem> sera que deu certo lá para o jovem kk
[17:36] <Hudsonkem> ele não retorno
[17:37] <sistematico> Pessoal...
[17:37] <Hudsonkem> hey sistematico vc sabe rodar o pcsx2?
[17:38] <sistematico> Hudsonkem: Isso deve ser emulador de jogo né?
[17:38] <Hudsonkem> ss para ps2
[17:39] <sistematico> Aqui tem uma dica: http://www.diolinux.com.br/2013/02/como-instalar-um-emulador-de-ps2-no-ubuntu.html
[17:39] <sistematico> Num deu certo aí?
[17:39] <marcelomauro> finalmente consegui apagar tudo
[17:40] <marcelomauro> sistematico, para instalar as perspectivas para C/C++ e python, tem algum segredo?
[17:40] <sistematico> Não entendi a definição de perspectivas...
[17:40] <marcelomauro> o comum para o eclipse é Java
[17:40] <sistematico> Acredito que o Eclipse já venha pronto.
[17:41] <marcelomauro> quero usa-lo também para c/c++ e python
[17:41] <marcelomauro> não, vem pronto somente para java
[17:41] <Hudsonkem> ^^ é tipo addons para rodar outras linguagens de programação
[17:41] <marcelomauro> esse foi o problema que ocorreu, quando fui baixar uns plugins
[17:42] <Hudsonkem> atat kkk
[17:42] <marcelomauro> acho que o eclipse, no linux, não consegue instalar os plugins por ele mesmo, devido as permissões
[17:42] <marcelomauro> sei lá
[17:42] <marcelomauro> tem que baixar pelo apt-get
[17:42] <Hudsonkem> depende se o eclipse tiver aberto como sudo ele poderia
[17:42] <marcelomauro> agora como saber o nome dos pacotes?
[17:43] <Hudsonkem> mas se vc que plugins addons talvez tenha essas opções lá no synaptc
[17:43] <marcelomauro> problema é descobrir o nome dos pacotes
[17:44] <sistematico> apt-cache search eclipse
[17:44] <Hudsonkem> vc colocar o nome eclipse lá e ve oq aparece e procura algo como, eclipse-extra para c c++ python algo tipo isso
[17:44] <sistematico> marcelomauro: apt-cache search eclipse | grep -i 'c++'
[17:44] <sistematico> marcelomauro: problema solucionado
[17:45] <sistematico> marcelomauro: substitui o c++ por python e etc...
[17:46] <sistematico> [lucas@caos ~]:$ apt-cache search eclipse | grep -i 'c++'
[17:46] <sistematico> eclipse-cdt - C/C++ Development Tools for Eclipse
[17:50] <marcelomauro> aqui apareceu o eclipse-pydev, mas ele não pode ser instalado
[17:50] <sistematico> Pra qualquer tipo de aplicação eu recomendo um bom editor ao invés de IDE, embora "digam" por aí que algumas coisas não se consegue somente com o editor, eu não tenho certeza disto...
[17:50] <sistematico> marcelomauro: Porque não?
[17:51] <marcelomauro> dependencias desencontradas
[17:51] <sistematico> Andou mexendo no sources.list?
[17:52] <marcelomauro> nao
[17:52] <sistematico> ?
[17:53] <sistematico> Seguinte...
[17:53] <marcelomauro> só fiz a atualização para o 15.04 esses dias
[17:53] <sistematico> Antes de qualquer coisa, sempre mantenha seu sistema atualizado.
[17:53] <sistematico> marcelomauro: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade
[17:53] <marcelomauro> ele está, atualizao quase todos os dias
[17:53] <sistematico> Certo...
[17:53] <marcelomauro> isso
[17:53] <sistematico> marcelomauro: Agora abra o Sinaptic.
[17:53] <sistematico> marcelomauro: Agora abra o Synaptic.
[17:54] <sistematico> Tem um botão chamado "Marcar Todas as Atualizações" ?
[17:54] <marcelomauro> mas as atualizações já não são feitas com o aptǵet upgrade?
[17:55] <sistematico> Não
[17:55] <sistematico> Algumas ele pula
[17:55] <sistematico> Depende muito.
[17:56] <marcelomauro> bom fiz o que falou, mas não tem nada a ser atualizado
[17:56] <sistematico> Ok.
[17:56] <sistematico> Digite: sudo apt-get autoremove && sudo apt-get autoclean && sudo apt-get clean && sudo apt-get install -f
[17:57] <sistematico> Ou copie e cole para evitar enganos.
[17:57] <sistematico> Colar no terminal é com o CTRL+SHIFT+v ao invés de CTRL+ALT+v
[17:57] <sistematico> Ou clique no botão de scroll do mouse.
[17:59] <marcelomauro> ok, tudo limpo
[17:59] <sistematico> Depois disse tente instalar novamente o pacote, se der erro cola o erro em http://paste.ubuntu.com a passa o link aqui.
[17:59] <sistematico> *disso
[18:00] <marcelomauro> http://paste.ubuntu.com/10900712/
[18:00] <sistematico> Ok
[18:01] <sistematico> Rode o sudo apt-get install -f e cole lá tambem.
[18:02] <sistematico> Seu Ubuntu é 64 bits?
[18:03] <marcelomauro> http://paste.ubuntu.com/10900762/
[18:03] <marcelomauro> sim
[18:03] <marcelomauro> sim é 64bits
[18:04] <marcelomauro> sistematico, vi vc falar acima que não gosta de usar IDE. Também não sou muito fã. Mas como fazer se tempos que compilar vários arquivos?
[18:04] <sistematico> marcelomauro: sudo apt-get remove eclipse-pydev-data:i386 eclipse-pydev:i386 gdb:i386
[18:05] <sistematico> marcelomauro: Mas antes de dar ok..
[18:05] <sistematico> Cole pra mim
[18:05] <sistematico> O que vai aparecer
[18:05] <marcelomauro> esses pacotes não estão instalados em minha máquina
[18:06] <sistematico> marcelomauro: Ter, tem né..
[18:06] <marcelomauro> nenhum deles
[18:06] <marcelomauro> o apt-get insforma isso
[18:06] <marcelomauro> O pacote 'eclipse-pydev-data:i386' não está instalado, por isso não será removido
[18:09] <marcelomauro> ???
[18:09] <Hudsonkem> marcelomauro vc use qual arctetura de processamento? 32bit ou 64?
[18:09] <marcelomauro> 64 bits
[18:10] <marcelomauro> tb o pacote eclipse-pydev não aparece no sinaptic
[18:10] <Hudsonkem> vc ta tentando remover os pacotes eclipse-pydev-data:i386 eclipse-pydev:i386 gdb:i386?
[18:10] <marcelomauro> o sistematico que sugeriu
[18:10] <marcelomauro> eu também acho que eles não constam aqui
[18:10] <Hudsonkem> '-' que vc esta fazendo exatamente instalando ou removendo coisas?
[18:11] <marcelomauro> alias, como o sistema é 64 bits... não constariam
[18:11] <marcelomauro> Hudsonkem, eu quero instalar a perspectiva python no eclipse
[18:11] <marcelomauro> alias, não tá dando certo nenhuma aqui
[18:12] <marcelomauro> reinstalei o eclipse e não aparece nada das linguagens, nem java
[18:12] <Hudsonkem> nem java?
[18:13] <marcelomauro> não
[18:14] <marcelomauro> quando crio o projeto não aparece mais a opção
[18:14] <Hudsonkem> abra o synaptic por gentileza
[18:14] <marcelomauro> sempre briguei com esse eclipse
[18:15] <marcelomauro> aberto
[18:15] <Hudsonkem> bom eu não curto java então uso codeblocks geany mcu lazarus kk
[18:15] <Hudsonkem> python idler
[18:15] <Hudsonkem> digita no synapitc eclipse
[18:16] <Hudsonkem> pronto?
[18:16] <marcelomauro> eu tb prefiro cara, mas estou fazendo uns trabalhos aqui e preciso dele porque tenho que levar e explirtar para a faculdade
[18:16] <marcelomauro> sim
[18:16] <Hudsonkem> ata ae é foda msm
[18:16] <marcelomauro> pronto lá
[18:16] <Hudsonkem> bom vc vera uma lista, nela procure o pacote sclipse-cdt
[18:16] <marcelomauro> já fiz isso amigo
[18:17] <Hudsonkem> ok ^^ mais em baixo tem
[18:17] <Hudsonkem> libecj-java ta marcado?
[18:18] <marcelomauro> sim, ja instalado
[18:18] <Hudsonkem> ejc tbm?
[18:18] <Hudsonkem> ecj*
[18:19] <Hudsonkem> verifica tbm se o java-common esta instalado e o openjdk-7-jre tbm
[18:19] <marcelomauro> ok, este não
[18:20] <marcelomauro> o openjdk está
[18:20] <marcelomauro> está o 6, 7 e o 8
[18:21] <Hudsonkem> lol
[18:21] <Hudsonkem> kk
[18:21] <sistematico> putz
[18:21] <marcelomauro> java-common ok
[18:21] <Hudsonkem> reinicia o eclipse
[18:22] <yangm> pensando aqui
[18:22] <yangm> sobre passar uns tempos com ubuntu no celular, notebook e na tv
[18:22] <yangm> pra testar o ecossistema
[18:22] <yangm> compensa?
[18:22] <Hudsonkem> º-º what are u talkin about
[18:23] <yangm> instalar ubuntu no meu macbook, ubuntu phone no celular e dedicar uma máquina com ubuntu pra tv na minha tv
[18:23] <sistematico> haiueaehaieauehaieaehaieaue
[18:23] <Hudsonkem> ubuntu no celular vc só vai fica puto da vida
[18:23] <yangm> atualmente uso android no nexus 5 e OS X no macbook, e a TV é uma burra da LG
[18:23] <yangm> por quê?
[18:24] <Hudsonkem> o ubuntu ainda não esta totalmente funcional para smartphones
[18:24] <sistematico> Rapaiz, MAC OSX usa o kernel do FreeBSD.
[18:24] <Rudolf> sistematico: ah vá
[18:24] <sistematico> Tirar um sistema robusto e vai colocar Ubuntu?
[18:24] <marcelomauro> cara, detesto estes sistemas com tela de tablet
[18:25] <marcelomauro> eu uso mouse e tudo fica esquisito
[18:25] <sistematico> Rudolf: Se num espera eu molhar o bico.
[18:25] <Hudsonkem> kkk justamente por isso que é para touchscreen
[18:25] <Rudolf> sistematico: desde os powerpc o kernel é freebsd
[18:25] <Rudolf> sistematico: graças a licensa BSD
[18:26] <sistematico> Rudolf: Graças AO FreeBSD.
[18:26] <marcelomauro> isso procede. O que muda são uns add-ons, mas a base é FreeBSD
[18:26] <Hudsonkem> bsd >.<
[18:26] <sistematico> O que é pior, todo mundo usa e ninguem sabe ou dá valor ao S.O.
[18:26] <Rudolf> sistematico: se o freebsd tivesse licensa gnu, não seria escolhido
[18:26] <Rudolf> sistematico: mesmo sendo muito melhor que o linux
[18:27] <Rudolf> sistematico: em relação ao kernel
[18:27] <Hudsonkem> '-' vc que criar uma guerra nesse chat Rodolf?
[18:27] <marcelomauro> Hudsonkem, nada cara
[18:27] <sistematico> haieauehaieuaheiaeahie
[18:27] <marcelomauro> não aparece as opçoes
[18:27] <Rudolf> Hudsonkem: não, achismo é irrelevante
[18:27] <sistematico> Hudsonkem: /whois sistematico
[18:27] <sistematico> Hudsonkem: Olha o meu cloak.
[18:28] <Hudsonkem> marcelomauro vc reinstalo e nada, bom não faço ideia pra falar a vdd
[18:28] <marcelomauro> exato
[18:28] <Rudolf> sistematico: poser?
[18:28] <marcelomauro> o que me resta agora é reiniciar o sistema
[18:28] <yangm> estão mandando eu usar BSD em um chat de linux?
[18:29] <yangm> em que dimensão estou?
[18:29] <marcelomauro> mas ai... solução a lá windows
[18:29] <sistematico> Rudolf: Lover, num é romantico?
[18:29] <Rudolf> yangm: mundo livre
[18:29] <Rudolf> yangm: você pode fazer o que quiser
[18:29] <yangm> eu sei que OS X é robusto pra caralho e tals
[18:29] <Hudsonkem> marcelomauro lol
[18:29] <Rudolf> yangm: tão robusto que chega a ser travado
[18:30] <yangm> mas eu queria ver se tem integração ubuntu-ubuntu-ubuntu
[18:30] <yangm> como vai ter com windows cof cof
[18:30] <Rudolf> yangm: que tipo de integração champs?
[18:30] <Hudsonkem> marcelomauro sera que n tem para baixar no site lá não os plugins?
[18:30] <yangm> Rudolf, travado onde?
[18:30] <Rudolf> yangm: sob o capô
[18:30] <sistematico> yangm: Não, estou aconselhando a manter o S.O. default do MAC.
[18:30] <Rudolf> yangm: extremamente travado ao ambiente gráfico
[18:30] <marcelomauro> eu acho que não existe esse problema todo. Os codigos BSD são bem mais antigos e test-safe que os do linux e isso não se questiona. Muito do que usamos aqui é vindo de lá.
[18:31] <yangm> Rudolf, exemplos...
[18:31] <Rudolf> yangm: mudar a porta do ssh
[18:31] <yangm> sistematico, se eu vivesse de default não teria saído do windows
[18:31] <sistematico> yangm: Ninguem manda, se quiser colocar Windows 8 no MacBook, por mim, tá sossegado...
[18:31] <Rudolf> plan9, qnx, netbsd, windows rt
[18:31] <marcelomauro> e o linux não é posix certificado (mais por ser cara a certificação dos sistemas)
[18:31] <Rudolf> tanto faz
[18:31] <sistematico> yangm: Diferença muito simples, Windows é ruim.
[18:31] <yangm> Rudolf, faz normalmente
[18:31] <sistematico> yangm: :P
[18:31] <yangm> sistematico, bem lembrado
[18:31] <Hudsonkem> marcelomauro isso pode até ser, mas a proposta é outra
[18:31] <Rudolf> yangm: defina normalmente?
[18:32] <Rudolf> yangm: explica aí como faz
[18:32] <marcelomauro> fato
[18:32] <marcelomauro> o que diferencia é a proposta mesmo
[18:32] <yangm> Rudolf, só editar o ssh_config e reiniciar o serviço
[18:32] <Rudolf> yangm: bom, no powerpc não tinha ssh_config
[18:32] <marcelomauro> porem não se nega, na estrutura, que o que se há, é mais robusto.
[18:32] <yangm> mas se quiser tem como instalar outro binário de ssh pelo brew
[18:32] <Rudolf> almoçar
[18:33] <yangm> putz o cara vem me falar de mac powerpc
[18:33] <sistematico> fugiu
[18:33] <yangm> meu deus
[18:33] <marcelomauro> reiniciar aqui
[18:33] <marcelomauro> aff
[18:33] <Hudsonkem> okay
[18:33] <yangm> sistematico, então não é uma boa usar tudo ubuntu? o.O
[18:34] <Hudsonkem> seria ofença eu chama nóis de tolos felizes?
[18:34] <sistematico> Não sei, acredito que no MacBook não.
[18:34] <sistematico> Eu não curto Ubuntu, não uso ele.
[18:34] <yangm> sistematico, ubuntu roda muito bem aqui
[18:34] <sistematico> Em lugar nenhum.
[18:34] <yangm> reconhece tudo no meu mac
[18:34] <sistematico> Mas isso é uma questão de gosto pessoal.
[18:35] <Hudsonkem> xubuntu rodando bem aki fora o cursor que fica invisivel as vezes
[18:35] <sistematico> Meu S.O. tambem.
[18:35] <yangm> sistematico, tem outro sistema que possa ser instalado no pc, smart e tv?
[18:35] <sistematico> Não tenho smart nem tv, não sei.
[18:35] <yangm> quero testar as alternativas livres e depois testar a proposta da ms
[18:35] <yangm> e esperar sentado pela proposta da apple (sobre unificação)
[18:36] <Hudsonkem> acho que se vc pesquisar no sabio google tera respostas
[18:37] <yangm> tô pesquisando sobre sistemas que rodam no nexus no momento
[18:37] <yangm> mas até agora só vi ubuntu com essa proposta
[18:37] <yangm> nenhuma outra distro desktop aderiu a ideia o.O
[18:38] <sistematico> CyanogenMOD, MiUi, etc, etc, etc...
[18:39] <yangm> isso tudo é android
[18:39] <yangm> não tem graça
[18:39] <cyborg> ninjarj
[18:40] <yangm> a porra do google não está carregando direito aqui
[18:40] <Guest68222> ok
[18:41] <Hudsonkem> yangm problema do ubuntu para smartphone é que vc vai ter bugs
[18:41] <yangm> Hudsonkem, mais que lollipop? hehe
[18:41] <Hudsonkem> lol
[18:42] <yangm> lollipop tá com memory leak até hoje
[18:42] <yangm> 5.1.1 e não foi corrigido
[18:42] <yangm> sem falar nos bugs de câmera
[18:45] <Hudsonkem> '-' pqp nem to encontrando para download o ubuntu phone
[18:45] <yangm> voltei
[18:45] <yangm> net bosta
[18:46] <yangm> falaram algo depois que eu reclamei dos bugs da câmera?
[18:47] <Hudsonkem> não lol
[18:47] <Hudsonkem> pessoal aqui estam com sono
[18:49] <yangm> kkkk
[18:49] <yangm> tá foda, ubuntu phone e lune os só têm port oficial pra nexus 4
[18:49] <yangm> e eu com o 5
[18:50] <Hudsonkem> vixe kkk
[18:50] <yangm> vou ter que arrumar a tela do nexus 4
[18:50] <yangm> que merda
[18:50] <Hudsonkem> vende e compra um nexus 4 :3
[18:50] <yangm> já tenho
[18:50] <yangm> só falta-lhe a tela
[18:50] <Hudsonkem> msm que n ter
[18:50] <Hudsonkem> -.-'
[18:51] <yangm> sim
[18:51] <Hudsonkem> hey lá no canal #ubuntu tem bem uns 1800 voluntarios e aki 52 e tudo off
[18:53] <yangm> o #ubuntu é uma zona
[18:53] <yangm> 200 mensagens por segundo
[18:53] <Hudsonkem> kkk
[18:54] <Hudsonkem> o carinha lá me mandou pra ca por causa de eu não entender algumas coisas que eles falaram
[18:54] <Hudsonkem> bom ele que não entendeu que "eu não lembro qual o driver para meu process"
[18:55] <yangm> loll
[18:57] <Hudsonkem> yangm >> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TShKZLeZzWE#t=11
[18:58] <yangm> pena que o ubuntu edge não vingou
[19:00] <Hudsonkem> :/ yep bom de qualquer forma eu não gosto de celulares então :)
[19:05] <Hudsonkem> yangm vc não usa nenhum distro ubuntu? só pensa em testa?
[19:05] <yangm> só OS X
[19:05] <yangm> windows pra jogos
[19:05] <Afranio> Galera, hoje eh meu primeiro dia com linux... e após formatado e atualizado, ele exibe no topo da tela do meu notebook a palavra DESKTOP, isso significa que estou com a versão errada?
[19:05] <Hudsonkem> yangm nunca tento o wine para jogos n?
[19:06] <yangm> wine = bosta
[19:06] <yangm> principalmente quando se tem uma intel graphics
[19:06] <Hudsonkem> Afranio tem como vc tira um print upar no imgur.com e manda o link da imagem para vermos?
[19:07] <Hudsonkem> para tirar um print precione o botão no teclado prtsc
[19:07] <Afranio> tem sim
[19:07] <Hudsonkem> yangm
[19:08] <Hudsonkem> yangm: https://www.youtube.com/watch?annotation_id=annotation_3085140699&feature=iv&list=PLZsjaJhVZaxWJeui3an96fEQ1umshgjkG&src_vid=LfcTfeyWekI&v=dqqZCLwj4Pk
[19:08] <yangm> Hudsonkem, o que tem?
[19:09] <Hudsonkem> nada só mostrando :)
[19:11] <hggdh> yangm: cuida da linguagem, por favor
[19:13] <Afranio> nao tah dando pra upar
[19:13] <Hudsonkem> vc tem que criar uma conta
[19:15] <Hudsonkem> ou vc tem alguma conta em outro site para compartilhar imagens?
[19:15] <Hudsonkem> se vc tiver serve tbm.
[19:15] <Afranio> http://imgur.com/gallery/feXhjEv
[19:15] <Afranio> acho que agora deu
[19:15] <Hudsonkem> esta correto seu desktop
[19:16] <Hudsonkem> bom só o'que ta faltando é o launcher
[19:16] <Afranio> mesmo eu tendo notebook, a versão eh para desktop?
[19:16] <Hudsonkem> desktop = area de trabalho
[19:16] <Afranio> okkie dokie
[19:16] <Afranio> thanks
[19:17] <Hudsonkem> de nada
[19:17] <sistematico> yangm: Rodo Counter-Strike: Source, Counter-Strike: Global Offensive, TeamFortress 2 e outros pela Steam.
[19:17] <sistematico> No Linux, tudo nativo.
[19:17] <sistematico> Obvio que alguns ainda não rodam, ARMA3 por exemplo.
[19:18] <yangm> GTA, Saints Row, entre outros, não roda,
[19:18] <Hudsonkem> mas tipo vc ta na steam, mas outros vc ainda consegui pelo wine tbm
[19:18] <Hudsonkem> da pra quebrar o "galho".
[19:18] <sistematico> Se não for jogo de FPS até dá.
[19:19] <sistematico> Mas só jogo CS mesmo, então pra mim tá ótimo.
[19:19] <sistematico> Inclusive meu FPS ficou maior no Linux.
[19:20] <yangm> nos jogos que rodam sem wine, fps é maior no os x do que no windows também
[19:20] <yangm> portal jogo pelo os x mesmo
[19:20] <Hudsonkem> sistematico: serio?
[19:21] <sistematico> Sério
[19:22] <sistematico> Ficava com 250 no Windows, no Linux foi pra 280 em média.
[19:22] <sistematico> No Counter-Strike: Source
[19:22] <sistematico> CS:GO roda normal tbm.
[19:22] <sistematico> Uma dica que talvez não conheçam...
[19:23] <sistematico> http://steamunpowered.eu/steam-alternatives/
[19:23] <sistematico> Entre eles eu recomendo o Desura.
[19:23] <sistematico> http://www.desura.com
[19:24] <sistematico> http://www.desura.com/platforms/set/linux
[19:28] <Hudsonkem> saindo aqui, tenham uma boa tarde.
[19:28] <sistematico> abraço
[19:28] <sistematico> fui tbm..
[20:04] <mirqui> boa tarde :)
[20:06] <yangm> boa
[20:06] <mirqui> blza , tudo bem :) ?
[20:09] <yangm> tudo e você?
[20:09] <mirqui> que bom , aqui tbm vamos todos bem graças a deus :)
[20:09] <yangm> http://brew.sh/linuxbrew/ <qua a necessidade disso
[20:09] <yangm> *qual
[20:09] <mirqui> quais são as novas ?
[20:10] <yangm> homebrew pra linux
[20:10] <mirqui> sobre o que é o link?
[20:13] <yangm> eu não entendo a necessidade de portar homebrew pro linux
[20:14] <mirqui> não entendo disso , sou novo no linux , que é homebrew ?
[20:16] <barna> instalei um servidor dhcp num desk aki, ele tem 2 placas de rede, preciso compartilhar a internet q entra pela eth1 com a eth0 q ta ligada na rede e servindo os ips, alguem sabe algum tutorial ao algo do tipo que me ajude?
[20:18] <mirqui> https://www.google.com.br/?gws_rd=ssl#q=+tem+2+placas+de+rede%2C+preciso+compartilhar+a+internet+q+entra+pela+eth1+com+a+eth0+q+ta+ligada+na+rede+e+servindo+os+ips
[20:18] <mirqui> dá uma olhada e vê se ajuda
[20:19] <yangm> mirqui, é um gerenciador de pacotes para OS X
[20:19] <yangm> que portaram pra linux
[20:19] <yangm> motivo? não sei
[20:20] <jorge> ja atualizei para a nova versão. qual aplicativo uso no linux para substituir o corel draw?
[20:20] <mirqui> eu uso somente linux yangm
[20:21] <yangm> jorge, inkscape?
[20:21] <mirqui> https://www.google.com.br/?gws_rd=ssl#q=qual+aplicativo+linux+substitui+o+corel+draw
[20:22] <jorge> inkscape é o aplicativo?
[20:22] <yangm> inkscape trabalha com vetor igual ao corel
[20:22] <yangm> eu usaria ele, mas deve ter outros
[20:22] <mirqui> ou este ai , o inkscape já ví mas não soube usar , o outro não conheço
[20:23] <mirqui> jorge , olha isto
[20:23] <mirqui> http://www.ubuntudicas.com.br/blog/2010/03/sk1-o-coreldraw-e-ilustrator-para-linux/
[20:24] <jorge> valeu, obrigado. boas opções.
[20:25] <mirqui> boa sorte :)
[20:25] <barna> valeu mirqui ja ajudou a seber o q pesquisar
[20:26] <mirqui> legal :)
[20:29] <astroo-> ola pessoal
[21:45] <felipelanhi> Boa noite.
[21:45] <astroo-> ola
[21:46] <felipelanhi> Baixei a última distribuição do Linux
[21:46] <felipelanhi> mas sou bem verde nessas coisas de instalações e tals
[21:46] <felipelanhi> e tenho um note sem entrada prá DVD
[21:46] <felipelanhi> mas queria instalar o Linux como opção, prá testar
[21:46] <felipelanhi> alguém tem um manualzinho disso?
[21:46] <Rudolf> felipelanhi: www.ubuntu.org
[21:47] <Rudolf> felipelanhi: lá tem como instalar utilizando um pendrive
[21:47] <Rudolf> felipelanhi: e como contruir este pendrive
[21:47] <Rudolf> felipelanhi: ou google
[21:47] <Rudolf> felipelanhi: "instalar ubuntu usando pendrive"
[21:51] <felipelanhi> legal
[21:52] <felipelanhi> mto obrigado gente
[23:11] <Elfon_> alo
[23:11] <Elfon_> Boa noite
[23:11] <astroo-> ola
[23:11] <mercurie> Boa
[23:12] <marcelomauro> Já fiz de tudo... meu eclipse bugou de vez. Reinstalei, fiz de tudo. Não mostra mais as opções de projeto em java, nem qualquer outro
[23:13] <marcelomauro> pewciso desse joça do eclipse
[23:17] <Rudolf> lol
[23:19] <marcelomauro> cara, ele não abre mais nenhuma perspectiva
[23:19] <marcelomauro> não consigo iniciar projeto em java, c... nada
[23:19] <mercurie> já tentou apagar desinstalar, apagar as configurações na tua pasta home e depois reinstalar?
[23:20] <marcelomauro> já, tudo
[23:20] <marcelomauro> só falta reinstalar o sistema
[23:21] <Elfon_> pessoal. alguém aí tem afinidade de compartilhamento via samba?
[23:21] <Rudolf> credo
[23:27] <marcelomauro> acho que alguma coisa aconteceu com meu repositório
[23:28] <marcelomauro> então vejamos, no instalador de programas, na pesquisa mostra alguns pacotes
[23:28] <marcelomauro> aí quando tento instalar diz que ele nao estão lá
[23:28] <Elfon_> ???
[23:29] <mercurie> qual versão do ubuntu tá usando marcelo?
[23:29] <marcelomauro> fiz a atualização para o 15.04 estes dias
[23:29] <marcelomauro> por exemplo, na pesquisa mostra eclipse-pydev, no sinaptic ele não consta
[23:30] <mercurie> tudo que precisa do eclipse tá nos repositórios oficiais ou tem algum repositório que você precisou adicionar?
[23:30] <marcelomauro> na pesquisa mostra o netbeans, no sinaptic ele não tá la
[23:30] <marcelomauro> não adicionei nada
[23:30] <Rudolf> marcelomauro: vc atualiza seu sistema de produção assim?
[23:30] <Rudolf> marcelomauro: sem esperar 1 ou 2 semanas de mimimi?
[23:30] <marcelomauro> assim como?
[23:31] <mercurie> tenta instalar pelo terminal marcelo e vê se dá alguma indicação do problema
[23:31] <Rudolf> marcelomauro: como assim o quê? qual parte você não entendeu?
[23:31] <marcelomauro> mercurie, é a mesma coisa, na verdade eu gosto mais do terminal
[23:32] <marcelomauro> não é bem assim Rudolf... o eclipse já estava estranho pra mim aqui, fiz a atualização na esperança de solucionar
[23:32] <marcelomauro> nada
[23:32] <marcelomauro> mas agora nem é isso que tou perguntando
[23:33] <Rudolf> marcelomauro: você está perguntando?
[23:33] <marcelomauro> onde está o netbeans? Não consta no repositório?
[23:33] <Rudolf> marcelomauro: achei que só estava reclamando
[23:33] <marcelomauro> Rudolf, ahh ok... desculpe. Não sabia que não podia desabafar aqui.
[23:33] <Rudolf> marcelomauro: claro que pode
[23:33] <marcelomauro> mil perdoes
[23:34] <Rudolf> marcelomauro: a gente tem que rir da desgraça alheia
[23:35] <Elfon_> rapaz...Hoje é domingo...procura uma igreja ☺
[23:35] <Rudolf> kkkkkkkkkkk
[23:36] <marcelomauro> sou ateu
[23:36] <Elfon_> rapaz...esse problema é muito estranho
[23:37] <marcelomauro> só me digam uma coisa... o netbeans está no repositório?
[23:37] <marcelomauro> o eclipse-pydev tb?
[23:38] <mercurie> marcelo, eu pesquisei aqui e acho que não tá no repositório não...
[23:38] <marcelomauro> então deve ter sido algo do tipo
[23:39] <Rudolf> marcelomauro: instalão só externa
[23:39] <marcelomauro> alguns pacotes foram retirados
[23:39] <mercurie> baixa os arquivos .deb e instala pra ver
[23:43] <marcelomauro> mas a instalação fora apt-get não é mais facil de quebrar?
[23:44] <mercurie> não necessariamente
[23:45] <mercurie> o que pode ser diferente é você pedir pra instalar o .deb pelo terminal, haver dependências a serem instaladas, aí você precisa usar apt-get install -f pra ele baixar as dependências e terminar a instalação
[23:45] <Rudolf> hehehehe
[23:45] <Rudolf> marcelomauro: vou dar meu pitaco
[23:45] <Rudolf> marcelomauro: não instale o deb
[23:46] <Rudolf> marcelomauro: instale o executável do site do netbeans
[23:46] <Rudolf> marcelomauro: a palavra não seria bem instalar
[23:46] <Rudolf> marcelomauro: mas colocar ele em um diretório em seu home
[23:46] <Rudolf> marcelomauro: e chamar em um terminal quando precisar
[23:46] <Rudolf> marcelomauro: ou adicionar uma entrada no menu
[23:46] <Rudolf> marcelomauro: pra mim, *.deb fora de repositório é zica
[23:46] <Rudolf> marcelomauro: passos para o caos no package manager
[23:47] <Rudolf> marcelomauro: sempre que utilizo algo que não está no package manager, eu mantenho no diretório home
[23:47] <marcelomauro> então, o que eu queria mesmo, e isso só porque eu vou precisar pra faculdade, era uma instalação do eclipse funcional.
[23:47] <Rudolf> marcelomauro: faça o download no site e deixa em um diretório no seu home
[23:48] <Rudolf> marcelomauro: melhor coisa
[23:48] <Rudolf> deixa ir ali tomar um teras
[23:48] <marcelomauro> minha instalação pelo apt-get quebrou de um jeito que o eclipse é instalado mas suas funcionalidades não estão lá. E eu não sei o porque.
|
ubuntu-chat
|
2024-05-13T22:11:15.577278
| 2015-04-26T00:00:00 |
{
"license": "Public Domain",
"authors": [
"Afranio",
"AlexandreMBM",
"Elfon_",
"Ernandes",
"Guest68222",
"Hudsonkem",
"KurtKraut",
"Rudolf",
"The",
"abiamarpin",
"astroo-",
"barack_obama",
"barna",
"cyborg",
"felipelanhi",
"hggdh",
"hggdh_",
"jorge",
"jxajro",
"marcelomauro",
"mercurie",
"mirqui",
"simoes",
"sistematico",
"xGrind",
"yangm"
],
"url": "https://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2015/04/26/%23ubuntu-br.txt",
"channel": "#ubuntu-br"
}
|
2015-04-26-#xubuntu-devel
|
[01:14] <bluesabre> knome: got an email request for a wallpaper-sized monkey artwork from http://xubuntu.org/news/15-04-release/
[02:16] <OvenWerks> Unit193: I am very happy with Xubuntu-core. I am thinking Studio could very easily be based on it directly. The default theme and look/feel just work. Our menu stub just works too. I should probably take a look at the xubuntu release as well and see if we would need to take anything out at all. That may work even better.
[02:17] <Unit193> OvenWerks: Great! Glad to hear it. 64bit should be fine too now.
[02:18] <OvenWerks> Yes 64bit is what I am playing with in fact.
[02:23] <Unit193> Great! Glad it's confirmed, and thanks a bunch for pointing it out.
[02:23] <OvenWerks> No problem.
[03:03] <hudsonkem> hello?
[03:03] <holstein> o/
[03:04] <holstein> hudsonkem: maybe you are looking for the support channel?
[03:04] <hudsonkem> yes
[03:04] <holstein> hudsonkem: cool.. thats #xubuntu for xubuntu.. and #ubuntu as well, for general ubuntu support
[03:05] <hudsonkem> ok thx, so
[03:06] <hudsonkem> I have a cursor inssue, invisible cursor sometimes after reboot, im right to type here?
[03:06] <holstein> hudsonkem: well, as i said, the support channel is #xubuntu
[03:07] <hudsonkem> got it sorry. thx for all bye
[03:07] <holstein> hudsonkem: you can still right click and get a menu? its literally invisible?
[03:07] <hudsonkem> yes
[03:08] <hudsonkem> work but I can't see. and I must try 3 times reboot to this work
[03:08] <holstein> i suppose, i would look into my gpu driver, after simply updating the machine.. then, i would look at my user.. it would be helpful to note if the cursor is "invisible" at the login screen, or no..
[03:09] <hudsonkem> yes reboot with invisible cursor
[03:10] <holstein> hudsonkem: please apply all updates
[03:10] <holstein> "sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade"
[03:10] <holstein> reboot, and *note* if the cursor is there at the login screen, and as other users
[03:11] <holstein> see if the issue is isolated to just the one user account
[03:11] <hudsonkem> I found other user with this inssue, so not alone me,
[03:12] <holstein> hudsonkem: users on *your* machine, friend
[03:12] <holstein> *not* just randomly someone else.. please try the guest user, and/or another user *account*
[03:14] <hudsonkem> well, other users around the world, in ubuntu report
[03:14] <hudsonkem> them said about org.gnome.settings-daemon.plugins.xcursor
[03:14] <holstein> hudsonkem: sure, im not denying other users, as in, people, have that issue
[03:14] <holstein> hudsonkem: what im asking you to do has *nothing* to do with other people. im talking about user accounts on your machine
[03:14] <holstein> not other users, as in, people
[03:15] <holstein> please try as another user. the *guest* user.. login to your machine in the guest account, and test that the cursor works
[03:15] <hudsonkem> but, the trouble begin after lightdm start, when display GUI cursor is invisible
[03:16] <holstein> hudsonkem: so, as i ask, do you have a cursor in the guest account? yes or no?
[03:16] <hudsonkem> no
[03:16] <holstein> hudsonkem: ok.. are you up to date with upgrades, and rebooted into the most current kernel? yes? no?
[03:17] <hudsonkem> yes
[03:17] <holstein> hudsonkem: what GPU driver are you using? with what GPU hardware?
[03:18] <hudsonkem> just onboard or generic card drive
[03:19] <holstein> hudsonkem: sure.. i'll wait as you see what GPU you have, and driver, and report to me for further voluntaryy support, in the #xubuntu support channel.. thanks
[03:20] <hudsonkem> can you tell me commads to see that because I aways forgot that.
[03:21] <holstein> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1795372
[03:24] <hudsonkem> thx, so it took a long text, may I put in text file and upload it?
[03:25] <holstein> !paste
[03:25] <holstein> hudsonkem: also, please use #xubuntu for support.. thanks
[03:29] <hudsonkem> http://paste.ubuntu.com/10893230/
[03:30] <holstein> hudsonkem: ok.. now, please, again, use the #xubuntu channel
[03:30] <holstein> hudsonkem: go there *now*, ok? do you understand? yes? no?
[03:31] <hudsonkem> yes, I am just here because You are asking me so I have to answer
[03:31] <hudsonkem> thank you bye
[03:32] <holstein> hudsonkem: just /join #xubuntu
[04:31] <OvenWerks> holstein: check if he used the start disk maker in the system menu and is running live. The problem went away when I used dd to put the image on the USB drive. It was only a problem when running live.
[04:32] * OvenWerks guess he is a bit late...
[06:11] <elfy> Unit193: boot with image, wait for it to autologin - fruitlessly, it wanted username/password
[06:13] <elfy> could be dodgy download
[06:27] <elfy> and apparently so, works in vbox - still issues in kvm
[07:53] <elfy> and we has 3 winners :)
[07:54] <elfy> new person showed up during final testing - p-brada - they win that
[07:54] <elfy> for the whole cycle - removing those previous recipients - dkessel :)
[07:55] <elfy> and for the whole cycle - in team - jjfrv8 reported 138 for us - thanks jjfrv8 :)
[08:14] <elfy> knome: when you have 5 minutes - a bit of help with LP bug search-fu ...
[08:45] <dkessel> yay, thank you guys :)
[08:45] <elfy> thank you ;)
[08:46] <elfy> not sure if you saw this or the mail first, but you have one of those too :D
[08:47] <dkessel> saw the mail first :) tbh i wouldn't have thought i would get stickers, as i have only had time to help in the beginning of the cycle. but i it still was enough number-wise :)
[08:56] <elfy> well - in this situation, it is numbers that count :)
[10:57] <brainwash> bluesabre: can we close bug 1441460 ? the actual problem can be resolved by changing one light-locker option
[10:57] <brainwash> I don't think that “When the screensaver is deactivated” should be the default, or should it?
[11:01] <bluesabre> brainwash: It sounds like a race condition
[11:02] <bluesabre> The new default we have is that light-locker doesn't autolock by default
[11:02] <bluesabre> unless suspending
[11:02] <brainwash> the problem is that locking the screen makes the user session inactive and xfpm is not able to auto suspend the system then
[11:03] <brainwash> it's the vt switching drawback
[11:03] <bluesabre> right, but sometimes the suspend signal gets through before the vt switch actually occurs, and thats (I think) the race condition
[11:05] <brainwash> uhm
[11:06] <brainwash> you mean lock on suspend
[11:06] <brainwash> the report is about auto suspending while the lock screen is active
[11:07] <bluesabre> oh, that one
[11:07] <brainwash> so, lock screen after 10min.. suspend system after 15min
[11:07] <bluesabre> I misunderstood the report
[11:07] <bluesabre> then yeah, you're right
[11:08] <brainwash> this use case is problematic, so what can be done other then telling the user to change the light-locker option?
[11:09] <brainwash> which does not solve the problem completely
[11:09] <brainwash> once you switch to the lock screen, then xfpm has not power anymore :)
[11:09] <bluesabre> nothing, we do not currently have a solution for that scenario
[11:10] <bluesabre> unless the answer is, use a different lock screen to satisfy your needs
[11:10] <brainwash> we can only hope that light-locker without the vt switch will be ready for 16.04
[11:10] <brainwash> yeah
[11:45] <brainwash> bluesabre: did you read bug 1446247 ?
[11:46] <brainwash> Unit193 has not commented yet (ninja subscribed him)
[11:46] <brainwash> I don't know what the status or process is on this issue
[12:52] <Unit193> I commented outside of the bug.
[12:54] <brainwash> what is the status?
[12:54] <brainwash> is someone taking care of this bug?
[13:50] <elfy> a rather blunt 12.04 is EOL announcement is drafted
[14:35] <elfy> pleia2: thinking about people like the mexican news report we have on x.org - do we know if there's much of an appetite out there for OEM installs?
[14:36] <elfy> now that Vivid is old hat - I'm looking to Wibbly now ;)
[14:36] <pleia2> elfy: I've heard nothing wrt OEM installs, and they take a massive amount of work (automated testing, etc)
[14:36] <elfy> yea
[14:37] <elfy> but we 'could' do optional OEM tests - if it even works
[14:37] <elfy> Mate manage
[14:38] <elfy> just thinking of things here is all
[14:42] <pleia2> I honestly don't know much about it, have just heard some of the rumblings from canonical about all the work put in to work with manufacturers
[14:43] <drc> pleia2: Rumblings or grumblings?
[14:43] <elfy> pleia2: yea I have seen the same type of thing, mostly davmor2
[14:44] <elfy> just wondering if there is a 'market' for it generally
[14:45] <elfy> I'd rather mix it up in 15.10 and need to mail list more frequently this cycle, try and get more of a constant flow
[14:45] <elfy> anyway - as I said - just thinking :)
[14:45] <elfy> you go back to looking forward to Sunday :D
[14:48] <pleia2> drc: yes ;)
[14:48] <pleia2> elfy: short of an OEM approaching us (they haven't), I'm inclined to say it's not a good investment of our time
[14:49] <pleia2> but yay for ideas
[14:50] <elfy> but the guy installing in a bunch of places in Mexico might have like to know it was possible
[14:50] <elfy> that was the germ of the idea :
[14:50] <elfy> )
[14:50] <elfy> blaming you :D
[14:52] <pleia2> hehe
[14:53] <drc> always blame the mouthpiece :)
[14:53] <elfy> drc: of course - I thought you were older than me and would know :D
[14:57] <drc> OK, so where's the 15.10-omega iso?
[14:58] <elfy> currently it is still called 15.04-arch.iso :)
[14:58] <elfy> not even named yet - so that's a bit of an issue for the wibbly images :p
[14:59] <drc> Isn't kinda late to be choosing a name? I thought they usually announced that a release ahead of schedule?
[15:00] <elfy> mmm
[15:00] <drc> Maybe the rumor about negotiating for Wascally Wabit is trye....
[15:01] <elfy> well I don't know, and I've not heard anything
[15:01] <elfy> and if I was getting anywhere close to divulging things I shouldn't - pleia2 would !ops me :D
[15:01] <drc> Just "rumblings" on a couple of lists/channels
[15:01] <elfy> yea for sure
[15:02] <elfy> I'm not loud enough with the Wibbly Whinocewos
[15:02] <elfy> apart from here http://ubuntuforums.org/forumdisplay.php?f=427
[15:34] <Guest96557> hi, im sorry to interrupt the quietness here, im wondering why im not able to upgrade from 14.10 to 15.04 through update-manager -d since i thought a "devel" update is always possible
[15:51] <holstein> OvenWerks: thats a good poing
[15:51] <holstein> point*
[15:51] <elfy> wasn't sure if it was a pong or a point for a moment then :D
[16:00] <OvenWerks> perhaps wrong channel? :)
[16:04] <holstein> for me? that was an out dated response..
[16:04] <holstein> 00:31 < OvenWerks> holstein: check if he used the start disk maker in the system menu and is running live. The problem went away when I used dd
[16:05] <holstein> biggest issue there was language barrier..
[16:05] <OvenWerks> holstein: Ahh. It is just that I had the same problem a few days ago.
[16:09] * dkessel happily edits the wibbly QA pad
[16:45] <Unit193> elfy: FWIW, encryption in Xubuntu vivid worked except when trying to unlock with plymouth-theme-xubuntu-logo.
[16:49] <knome> elfy, hullo
[17:07] <dkessel> uh-oh: Work with the tracker developers to get out more meaningful data: TODO
[17:07] * dkessel hides :)
[17:22] <knome> dkessel, yes, i'm looking at you
[17:23] <knome> dinner soon
[17:23] <dkessel> knome: heh - yeah, let's see what can be done about the tracker needs the other day
[18:49] <dkessel> woooo ping notifications are working again for quassel in xubuntu 15.04 =D
[18:50] <Unit193> dkessel: Oh no, now you'll know when we're talking to you.
[18:55] <dkessel> ...if i am on the laptop, and not on the phone, where the quassel connection is really unstable ;)
[18:56] <dkessel> Unit193: yes, be careful when mentioning my name now :)
[20:01] <knome> dkessel dkessel dkessel dkessel
[20:01] <knome> oops
[20:01] <Unit193> Wait, why are we pinging dkessel?
[20:01] <elfy> yay pinging dkessel works now I see
[20:02] <elfy> Unit193: it's sunday in dkessel world - reason enough
|
ubuntu-chat
|
2024-05-13T22:11:15.601034
| 2015-04-26T00:00:00 |
{
"license": "Public Domain",
"authors": [
"Guest96557",
"OvenWerks",
"Unit193",
"bluesabre",
"brainwash",
"dkessel",
"drc",
"elfy",
"holstein",
"hudsonkem",
"knome",
"pleia2"
],
"url": "https://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2015/04/26/%23xubuntu-devel.txt",
"channel": "#xubuntu-devel"
}
|
2015-04-26-#ubuntu-nl
|
[14:16] <sarawara> kent er iemand zo n soort chat als deze voor wiskunde, lineare algebra (in browser)
[14:16] <sarawara> en goeie nammidag ook :)
[14:21] <Sling> sarawara: als je meer kanalen wilt gebruiken op irc kun je beter een echte irc client installeren
[14:21] <Sling> via browsers werkt het niet zo lekker
[14:22] <Sling> zie hier een uitleg over hoe je bv HexChat kan gebruiken https://hackenkunjeleren.nl/content/introductie-tot-irc
[14:22] <Sling> op het freenode netwerk is een ##math kanaal
[14:25] <sarawara> Sling, en is het simpel op een tablet? (want op mijn computer gebruik ik gewoon x-chat)
[14:32] <sarawara> ik heb iets gevonden, nog een prettige middag en leve de vectoren! :p
[14:33] <Sling> ah, x-chat is ook prima
[14:47] <Bram__> hoi
[14:48] <Bram__> ik ben pas gestart met ubuntu maar ik loop al tegen een probleem aan. Ik heb mysqlserver en phhmyadmin geinstaleerd en dat werkte allemaal totdat ik zoneminder heb geinstalleer. Nu werkt mysqlserver niet meer en ik kan het ook niet her instaleren
[14:49] <Sling> Bram__: start mysqld niet meer op, of wat gaat er precies mis?
[14:50] <Bram__> nee het start niet meer nu heb ik zoneminder er al af gegooid en mysqlserver ook maar ik krijg het niet meer geinstalleerd :(
[14:51] <Bram__> Sommige pakketten konden niet geïnstalleerd worden. Dit kan betekenen dat u een onmogelijke situatie gevraagd hebt of dat u de 'unstable'-distributie gebruikt en sommige benodigde pakketten nog vastzitten in 'incoming'. De volgende informatie helpt u mogelijk verder: De volgende pakketten hebben niet-voldane vereisten: mysql-server : Vereisten: mysql-server-5.5 maar het zal niet geïnstalleerd worden E: Kan problemen niet verhelpe
[14:51] <Bram__> dat is de melding die ik krijg
[14:52] <Sling> kun je eens een terminal openen en dit invoeren: sudo dpkg -l | grep mysql
[14:54] <Bram__> ok wat ik krijg naar hier kopieren of moet ik zien of er iets tussen staat?
[14:54] <Sling> graag de uitvoer via http://paste.ubuntu.com hier linken
[14:54] <Bram__> ok
[14:55] <Bram__> http://paste.ubuntu.com/10898649/
[14:56] <Sling> en wat gebeurt er als je 'sudo apt-get install mysql-server-5.6' typt?
[14:57] <Bram__> o het lukt opeens weer ik heb de remove nog is gedaan en nu lukt het zal ter straks een type fout gemaakt hebben denk ik :p bedankt voor de hulp !!!
[14:57] <Sling> remove?
[14:57] <Sling> ok..
[14:58] <Bram__> ja ik heb dit gedaan 'sudo apt-get remove mysql-server' en daar na lukte het wel :p
[14:59] <Sling> ok, in het vervolg wel handig als je tijdens troubleshooting niet zelf commando's tussendoor doet :)
[14:59] <Sling> dat maakt het helpen lastig
[14:59] <Sling> in dit geval ging het gelukkig goed
[14:59] <Bram__> a ja dat snap ik niet bij stil gestaan
[15:34] <WimvanHooff> Goedemiddag. Ik heb een vraag over Google Earth. Wie heeft ook problemen (gehad) met Google Earth?
[16:06] <WimvanHooff> Goedemiddag. Ik heb een vraag over Google Earth. Wie heeft ook problemen (gehad) met Google Earth?
[16:10] <jpjacobs> ik denk van niet, vermits er de eerste keer ook niemand antwoordde
[16:31] <ubuniet> bij deze wil ik nogmaals mijn vraag een keer stellen....
[16:31] <ubuniet> ik probeer ubuntu 14 te installeren naast windows vista. alles loopt zoals ik verwacht, en ken van xp maast linux mint. Alleen herkent linux mijn harde schijf niet in het installatiemenu, wel in Gparted. Ik heb dan geprobeerd om in Gparted mijn harde schijf handmatig op te delen in 2 partities, 1 partitie van 350Gb, ntfs waar windows vista op draait, en 1 partitie van 150Gb om linux ubuntu op te zetten. Deze laatste partitie heb ik
[16:32] <ubuniet> proberen te formatteren, als ex4, ex3 en linux-swap in de hoop dat linux toch deze schijf zou erkennen bij het opstarten, maar niets werkt. Ik ben hier nu al 3 dagen op aan het zoeken en ik begin redelijk hopeloos te worden dus ik hoop dat iemand van jullie mij kan helpen?!
[16:33] <trijntje> je kan proberen om de stabiele versie van ubuntu te installeren, 14.04. Hopelijk werkt die wel goed met jouw pc
[16:34] <ubuniet> ja sorry, het is idd 14.04
[16:34] <ubuniet> 14.04.02LTS om juist te zijn
[16:35] <trijntje> probeer dan de nieuwste versie, 15.04, wellicht dat dat helpt
[16:36] <trijntje> er komt wel elke 6 maanden een nieuwe versie uit dus dan moet je upgraden, maar daar krijg je automatisch een melding van
[16:37] <ubuniet> ok, maar ik heb het ook terug geprobeerd met linux mint 17.01 en deze gaf net hetzelfde resultaat
[16:39] <trijntje> tja, ik weet niet wat het probleem is met jouw harddisk dus ik kan verder geen advies geven. Het is altijd handig om de laatste versie te proberen als je problemen hebt
[16:39] <trijntje> mint 17.01 heeft volgens mij 14.04 als basis, dus grote kans dat die hetzelfde probeem heeft
[16:40] <ubuniet> ok, dan probeer ik even versie 15.04
[16:41] <ubuniet> alvast bedankt
[16:41] <trijntje> dat lijkt me het makkelijkste, aangezien we er niet achter konden komen wat het probleem is
[16:41] <trijntje> ubuniet: ik hoop dat het lukt
[16:41] <ubuniet> ja, als het niet lukt, kom ik het nogmaals vragen hoor :)
[18:11] <frank_> hallo
[18:11] <lordievader> o/
[18:12] <frank_> ik heb net kubuntu 14-04 opnieuw geinstaleerd ik krijg chrome er niet op
[18:12] <lordievader> sudo apt-get install chromium-browser?
[18:13] <frank_> lordivader ik bedoel chrome en niet chromium
[18:13] <lordievader> Dan moet je even bij Google langs, Chrome staat niet in de (Ubuntu) repos.
[18:13] <OerHeks> misschien eerst updaten?
[18:14] <frank_> had in console al een en ander geprobeerd krijg fout melding
[18:14] <frank_> heb eerst update gedaan
[18:14] <lordievader> frank_: https://www.google.com/chrome/browser/desktop/
[18:15] <ubuniet> trijntje: net linux ubuntu 15.04 geinstalleerd, maar nog steeds hetzelfde probleem.....installatie herkent geen partities op mijn harde schijf
[18:15] <lordievader> ubuniet: Wat zegt parted over je schijf?
[18:16] <trijntje> meh, ik geef op hoor, ik denk dat het aan jouw pc ligt ;)
[18:16] <frank_> openen met ark?
[18:16] <ubuniet> gparted herkent de schijf
[18:16] <ubuniet> en partities
[18:17] <OerHeks> frank_, nee, die deb van google.com openen met softwarecenter, melding negeren en install klikken
[18:17] <frank_> vind het wel raar henb al verschillende keren chrome er op gezet en nu werkt het niet
[18:17] <ubuniet> lordievader: ik probeer ubuntu 14 te installeren naast windows vista. alles loopt zoals ik verwacht, en ken van xp maast linux mint. Alleen herkent linux mijn harde schijf niet in het installatiemenu, wel in Gparted. Ik heb dan geprobeerd om in Gparted mijn harde schijf handmatig op te delen in 2 partities, 1 partitie van 350Gb, ntfs waar windows vista op draait, en 1 partitie van 150Gb om linux ubuntu op te zetten. Deze laatste par
[18:17] <ubuniet> manieren proberen te formatteren, als ex4, ex3 en linux-swap in de hoop dat linux toch deze schijf zou erkennen bij het opstarten, maar niets werkt. Ik ben hier nu al 3 dagen op aan het zoeken en ik begin redelijk hopeloos te worden dus ik hoop dat iemand van jullie mij kan helpen?!
[18:18] <lordievader> ubuniet: Geef eerst eens de output van parted ;)
[18:20] <ubuniet> lordievader: kan ik een screenshot geven?
[18:20] <lordievader> Liever de output...
[18:20] <lordievader> Parted != gparted, parted == cli.
[18:21] <lordievader> Commando is iets a la 'sudo parted /dev/sda'.
[18:22] <OerHeks> sudo parted -l
[18:22] <lordievader> OerHeks: Dan krijg je echt alles, is niet altijd gewenst (neem bijvoorbeeld een lvm setup).
[18:23] <frank_> is gelukt
[18:23] <frank_> thx
[18:23] <OerHeks> je bent geweldig :-D
[18:24] <OerHeks> lordie +10
[18:24] <ubuniet> ubuntu-mate@ubuntu-mate:~$ sudo parted /dev/sda GNU Parted 3.2 Using /dev/sda
[18:24] <lordievader> ubuniet: Voordat je hier gaat pasten: http://paste.ubuntu.com
[18:26] <ubuniet> lordievader: http://paste.ubuntu.com/10901019/ zo?
[18:28] <lordievader> Ah, ik ben de 'print' vergeten, sorry. 'sudo parted /dev/sda print' Ervaanuitgaande dat sda je hardeschijf is.
[18:30] <ubuniet> lordievader: dit lijkt er volgens mij meer op http://paste.ubuntu.com/10901068/
[18:30] <lordievader> Dat ziet er ok uit. Je Windows boot nog?
[18:30] <ubuniet> ja geen probleem met windows
[18:31] <lordievader> Oke, zit je nu in een live omgeving?
[18:31] <ubuniet> en ben in bios ook al gaan kijken, de sata staat ingesteld als IDE compatible
[18:31] <ubuniet> ik zit nu in de live ja
[18:32] <lordievader> Check, waar gaat het fout als je Ubu probeert te installeren>
[18:32] <lordievader> >=?
[18:33] <ubuniet> tijdens het installeren vraagt linux niet waar ik linux wil installeren, het menu waar men kan kiezen of men de schijf overschrijft of "anders" zeg maar
[18:33] <trijntje> heb je ook geprobeerd om ext4 te verwijeren en dan de installatie te starten?
[18:34] <ubuniet> trijntje: ik heb alles ondertussen al geprobeerd....ext4, ext3x swap-linux en gewoon ongeformateerd
[18:35] <lordievader> ubuniet: Wat kies je in dat menu?
[18:36] <ubuniet> lordievader: ik krijg het menu gewoon niet, hij gaat direct naar de pagina waar ik het overzicht van de harde schijven en partities kan zien. onderaan in de balk geeft ie dan mijn harde schijf weer, maar bovenaan krijg ik geen partities te zien. niet die van windows en ook niet de open ruimte op de schijf
[18:37] <lordievader> ubuniet: Hmm, tijd voor een debootstrap?
[18:38] <ubuniet> als het alles maar oplost, en ik linux en windows naast elkaar krijg, maar mag ik dan wel even vragen wat ik juist moet doen
[18:39] <lordievader> Zolang je de ext4 partitie kunt mounten kun je debootstrappen.
[18:39] <lordievader> Een zeer manueele vorm van installeren.
[18:40] <ubuniet> ja sudo dpkg --install debootstrap_ en dan de besturing die je wil?
[18:41] <ubuniet> maar ik heb dit nog niet echt bekeken omdat er wel wat fout kan gaan volgens de forums
[18:42] <lordievader> Uit [1] "sudo debootstrap --variant=buildd --arch i386 hardy /var/chroot/hardy http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/" https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebootstrapChroot
[18:43] <lordievader> Deze is uitgebreider: https://www.debian.org/releases/etch/i386/apds03.html.en
[18:45] <Sling> en heel oud
[18:45] <ubuniet> lordievader: ik ga dit even proberen, en ik kom verslag uitbrengen
[18:45] <ubuniet> alvast heel erg bedankt
[18:45] <lordievader> Sling: Techniek is niet veel veranderd.
|
ubuntu-chat
|
2024-05-13T22:11:15.625112
| 2015-04-26T00:00:00 |
{
"license": "Public Domain",
"authors": [
"Bram__",
"OerHeks",
"Sling",
"WimvanHooff",
"frank_",
"jpjacobs",
"lordievader",
"sarawara",
"trijntje",
"ubuniet"
],
"url": "https://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2015/04/26/%23ubuntu-nl.txt",
"channel": "#ubuntu-nl"
}
|
2015-04-26-#ubuntu-us-mi
|
[18:05] <cmaloney> Afternoon
[18:24] <dzho> yes
[18:30] <cmaloney> heh
|
ubuntu-chat
|
2024-05-13T22:11:15.626840
| 2015-04-26T00:00:00 |
{
"license": "Public Domain",
"authors": [
"cmaloney",
"dzho"
],
"url": "https://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2015/04/26/%23ubuntu-us-mi.txt",
"channel": "#ubuntu-us-mi"
}
|
2015-04-26-#ubuntu-pt
|
[04:08] <astroo-> ciao pessoal
[04:09] <barack_obama> ciao
[04:10] <astroo-> ciao
[20:29] <astroo-> ola pessoal
|
ubuntu-chat
|
2024-05-13T22:11:15.627423
| 2015-04-26T00:00:00 |
{
"license": "Public Domain",
"authors": [
"astroo-",
"barack_obama"
],
"url": "https://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2015/04/26/%23ubuntu-pt.txt",
"channel": "#ubuntu-pt"
}
|
2015-04-07-#ubuntu-ir
|
[10:04] <mllll> hi all
[10:43] <ml> hi
[10:43] <mll> hi
[10:43] <mll> سلامگ
[10:43] <mll> :(
[12:27] <hamed> salam kasi ko,ak mikone?
[12:28] <Guest94656> aqa man avvalin bare az linux estefade mikonam,alanam y ubuntu ru virtualbox nasb kardam vali tasvire kamelo bem nemide
[12:28] <Guest94656> manzuram full screen nis,fk konam nesfe paine safhe nistesh
[12:29] <Guest94656> :(
[12:29] <Guest94656> hishki nemikhad komak kone?
[12:29] <Guest94656> alo????????
[18:12] <dar-sun> salam be hame
[18:15] <dar-sun> lubotu3`: how are you botty?
[18:15] <lubotu3`> dar-sun: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)
[18:16] <dar-sun> :))) stupid bot!
[18:18] <dar-sun> lubotu3`: in kanal vas mas!... yani mas mas!!
[18:18] <lubotu3`> dar-sun: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)
[18:18] <dar-sun> :D :D :D
[18:19] <dar-sun> ubuntulog: don't log this
[18:19] <dar-sun> >:-(
|
ubuntu-chat
|
2024-05-13T22:11:15.633719
| 2015-04-07T00:00:00 |
{
"license": "Public Domain",
"authors": [
"Guest94656",
"dar-sun",
"hamed",
"lubotu3`",
"ml",
"mll",
"mllll"
],
"url": "https://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2015/04/07/%23ubuntu-ir.txt",
"channel": "#ubuntu-ir"
}
|
2015-04-07-#ubuntu-se
|
[07:30] <HeMan> Morrn!
[07:32] <SebastianThorn> morrn
[14:44] <einand> madbear_: Trevligt :)
[14:44] <einand> madbear_: får man se nått?
[15:32] <madbear_> einand: ja när jag tagit nåt respektabelt.. :)
|
ubuntu-chat
|
2024-05-13T22:11:15.636105
| 2015-04-07T00:00:00 |
{
"license": "Public Domain",
"authors": [
"HeMan",
"SebastianThorn",
"einand",
"madbear_"
],
"url": "https://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2015/04/07/%23ubuntu-se.txt",
"channel": "#ubuntu-se"
}
|
2015-04-07-#ubuntu-eg
|
[20:27] <Guest64868> السلام عليكم
|
ubuntu-chat
|
2024-05-13T22:11:15.638270
| 2015-04-07T00:00:00 |
{
"license": "Public Domain",
"authors": [
"Guest64868"
],
"url": "https://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2015/04/07/%23ubuntu-eg.txt",
"channel": "#ubuntu-eg"
}
|
2015-04-07-#ubuntu-ru
|
[04:37] <astrobeglec> Дня
[04:40] <red_shuhardt1> astrobeglec: доброго!
[04:44] <mapps> ;D
[05:05] <AlexeyMish> добрый день! Господа, как узнать длительность wav файла из консоли?
[16:07] <aleksei`> вечера
[22:31] <hetoin> привет всем
|
ubuntu-chat
|
2024-05-13T22:11:15.643088
| 2015-04-07T00:00:00 |
{
"license": "Public Domain",
"authors": [
"AlexeyMish",
"aleksei`",
"astrobeglec",
"hetoin",
"mapps",
"red_shuhardt1"
],
"url": "https://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2015/04/07/%23ubuntu-ru.txt",
"channel": "#ubuntu-ru"
}
|
2015-04-07-#launchpad-dev
|
[10:09] <wgrant> cjwatson: Morning.
[10:11] <wgrant> Oh, right, you're not here today.
|
ubuntu-chat
|
2024-05-13T22:11:15.644084
| 2015-04-07T00:00:00 |
{
"license": "Public Domain",
"authors": [
"wgrant"
],
"url": "https://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2015/04/07/%23launchpad-dev.txt",
"channel": "#launchpad-dev"
}
|
2015-04-07-#ubuntu-il
|
[22:45] <kk_> jjj\
|
ubuntu-chat
|
2024-05-13T22:11:15.644832
| 2015-04-07T00:00:00 |
{
"license": "Public Domain",
"authors": [
"kk_"
],
"url": "https://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2015/04/07/%23ubuntu-il.txt",
"channel": "#ubuntu-il"
}
|
2015-04-07-#ubuntu-on-air
|
[14:55] <prantak> how can get a ubuntu phone in india
[14:56] <Trump_> Hey all
[14:56] <prantak> hi
[14:57] <Trump_> Stream hasnt started yet?
[14:57] <prantak> anyone know how can i buy a ubuntu phone in asia pacefic region
[14:57] <prantak> no
[14:58] <nik90> prantak: Meizu a chineese company showcased their device in MWC couple of weeks back..it should hopefully be released in the near future..that would be your best bet to buy a ubuntu phone in asia
[15:07] <Trump_> Wish they would sell the Ubuntu phone in the United States.
[15:07] <theBest> Is there a ubuntu Q&A now? Cause I don't see the youtube live hangout.
[15:08] <theBest> Or is it in one hour?
[15:10] <Trump_> No clue, I don't see a time listed.
[15:12] <trey_> hello
[15:15] <trey_> QUESTION plasma 5 is python isn't it , or am I confused I run kubuntu 14.10 plasma 4
[15:21] <Trump__> The waiting is real lol
[15:29] <nik90> it should start in 30 mins
[15:30] <Hatim> Salut
[15:39] <NaneK> Hello everybody
[15:42] <Trump__> Hey
[15:44] <Hatim> Hi
[15:54] <dpm> hi all o/
[15:54] <dpm> about to start the Q&A in about 5 mins
[15:55] <dpm> sorry about the time confusion if you happened to join 1h ago
[15:55] <Constantine> Afternnoooons.
[15:56] <Constantine> 5 to-go.
[15:56] <dpm> hi Constantine :)
[15:56] <Constantine> dpm, Are you a presenter, then ?
[15:57] <dpm> yep :)
[15:58] <dpm> this week it's going to be mhall119 and I
[15:59] <Constantine> dpm, Where is Jono burried ? & will his ghost be able to play the guitar in UOAir ever, again ?
[16:00] <dpm> Constantine, I'll take this as the first question of the Q&A when we go live in a min :)
[16:01] <systemb> hi all
[16:01] <systemb> it's over already?
[16:01] <mhall119> systemb: just starting now
[16:02] <systemb> yay!
[16:02] <Constantine> the cutains are opening ... :)
[16:03] <Constantine> ***curtains
[16:03] <mhall119> you can ask your questions here any time, please start them with QUESTION in caps just like that
[16:03] <Trump__> Hey finally live lol
[16:03] <nixi> I was just told that streams like this exist
[16:04] <nixi> nice
[16:04] <mhall119> nixi: every week :)
[16:04] <mhall119> same bat time, same bat channel
[16:04] <Constantine> QUESTIONS: Does any of the Community Q&A Team listen to: badvotage DOT org
[16:04] <systemb> QUESTION: What's new in Ubuntu 15.04?
[16:04] <nixi> mhall119, well i am definetly going to watch every week now :D
[16:05] <mhall119> nixi: you can also go back and watch old episodes on https://www.youtube.com/user/UbuntuOnAir
[16:05] <nixi> thanks ^^
[16:05] <mhall119> np :)
[16:05] <RogerH_> 14.04.2 introduced a new hardware enablement stack that was only available if you installed from scratch (as opposed to upgrading). Do you forsee this happening again with future 14.04 releases? (.3, .4, etc.)
[16:06] <Trump__> 0
[16:06] <nixi> David looks like Sacha Baron Cohen :D
[16:06] <mhall119> Sacha Baron Cohen looks like dpm :)
[16:07] <systemb> QUESTION: Why is Dell selling the XPS 13 with Ubuntu 14.04 SP 1? (14.04.1) and not 14.04.2
[16:07] <Knightmare> QUESTION: What stance is canonical taking about all non-canonical endorsed hardware being sold? (i.e Cube, UTtab etc)
[16:08] <systemb> good question Knightmare
[16:08] <systemb> +1
[16:09] <Link_> QUESTION: Are there plans for the Ubuntu Phone to have some more mainstream apps like Skype or WhatsApp?
[16:11] <nixi> QUESTION : is Canonical helping or going to help the big companies with making better GPU drivers? It seems like they could use some help ...... amd
[16:11] <Knightmare> QUESTION: Mr Shuttleworth hinted at bunch of vendors who are waiting to launch Ubuntu devices, are you able to expand on this?
[16:12] <Knightmare> QUESTION: Is upstart/systemd used on the phone?
[16:14] <Knightmare> QUESTION: When will 14.04 be getting the backport of new features found in 15.04?
[16:17] * ChloeWolfieGirl gets here to late xD
[16:17] <Knightmare> QUESTION: Once convergence is in full effect, will the default apps found on phone be the same across all devices?
[16:17] <Link_> Thanks a lot for the response!
[16:18] <Constantine> QUESTION & ALSO FEEDBACK: During episode 38 , I think of badvoltage (sorry to drone on) .. there was a "Heuston, we have a problem" dichotomy where you can't actually find a developer that you want to develop Ubuntu software for you (even if you have the bitcoin). My feedback is : SHOULD canonical hear the voices of those of bountysource and publish a policy as to are the two processes in synergy towards the same Aim ? As
[16:18] <Constantine> ... back to the management that there is a grassroots direction towards getting people to 'code for them' & that a policy needs to be cengaged and discussed at management level ? & don't just brush this off as to miniscule because in years to-come this may come back to bite .... end.
[16:18] <Constantine> We need this conversation to happen this year.
[16:19] <Knightmare> :D
[16:19] <ChloeWolfieGirl> QUESTION Will the unity 8 desktop require .click packages or will it work with .deb ?
[16:24] <Nothing_Much> ChloeWolfieGirl: I think both
[16:24] <ChloeWolfieGirl> QUESTION: Are there any plans to get remote controllers working with the phone? at somepoint would I beable to sync my PS4 controller with the Ubuntu Phone and play some Sonic 3 on my Ubuntu Phone?
[16:24] <Nothing_Much> ChloeWolfieGirl: Oh dude, did you hear that Freedom Planet is coming to Linux ( and Mac, but who cares? )
[16:25] <ChloeWolfieGirl> Nothing_Much, Thats what I hope, but I heard that if you install a deb on the phone, it messes the updater up...
[16:25] <Knightmare> QUESTION: Is it possible to get Ethernet working on the tablet through the use of a USB adapter?
[16:27] <ChloeWolfieGirl> Nothing_Much, I heard rumors that it was and then I heard they where fake and then I heard that it's been made sure the game works fine if you use Wine, has there been any proper proof of it from the actual developers anymore?
[16:27] <Nothing_Much> ChloeWolfieGirl: http://store.steampowered.com/app/248310 Penguin's there
[16:27] <Nothing_Much> So... yep
[16:27] <Nothing_Much> I'm probably gonna buy it eventually
[16:28] <ChloeWolfieGirl> <3
[16:28] <ChloeWolfieGirl> I played a early demo back in the days when I had a mac with windows 7 on it, so a goood few years back and it was fun so I'll probably pick this up xD
[16:30] <Nothing_Much> QUESTION: Aren't smart TVs not very useful because of the use of Cable Boxes, most of the time when smart TVs are used, they almost always have cable boxes and their features are almost never used, would Ubuntu TV or any other TV OS be practical at all?
[16:30] <Constantine> dpm: I think we'll leave it for there with bountysource .. but there are bounties over $100 for ubuntu on bountysource, actually. Thank-you.
[16:31] <dpm> thanks Constantine
[16:32] <ChloeWolfieGirl> Nothing_Much, I use my console for everything a smart tv is used for anyways and a console controller I find so much better then a TV remote so I find little sence in smart tv's right now, but when Consoles die I think smart TV's would still be useful for Netflicks, crunchyrole, youtube, and other such media players
[16:33] <Nothing_Much> ChloeWolfieGirl: Yes, but what I mean is that the OS within the smart TV would be useless, which is why you have the console, right?
[16:33] <Constantine> QUESTION: mhall119 Can you enlighten us to the script that was discussed for the likes of the Google Plus Ubuntu App community and other Ubuntu.com Links ,i.e. about "checking links" as they were changed this week, I believe.
[16:34] <Nothing_Much> What I discovered from my job though, is that CableCards exist, sorta PCMCIA cards that you put into the TV and you can watch and view TV with the channel guide using Ubuntu TV or some other OS, but Video on Demand and Pay Per View might be a problem. It depends on the telecom company though.
[16:36] <RogerH_> I've been able to use a couple of USB etherhet adapters with Android tablets. I think the support is in the kernel.
[16:36] <theBest> QUESTION: How much Android is in the Ubuntu for Phone?
[16:38] <Constantine> QUESTION:What will stop Ubuntu-TV from turning into another CD-i phenomenon ?
[16:39] <ChloeWolfieGirl> Nothing_Much, I don't understand what you mean, the OS in the tv wouldn't be useless if you can use apps on the TV, I use the console because a I prefer using a controller such as the PS4 or Wii-u's and because the TV gui is generally aweful compaired to a consoles GUI, if ubuntu for the TV could make a great GUI which would work with a good controller then I'd be verry much glad to use the TV instead expeci
[16:39] <ChloeWolfieGirl> ally since I don't feel consoles would be around much longer
[16:39] <Nothing_Much> Well, traditional consoles such as vendor locked-in ones will be outdated
[16:39] <Nothing_Much> Steam Machines are the way of the future
[16:40] <theBest> QUESTION: There are some third party APIs e.g. for WhatsApp. Is it legal to use them?
[16:41] <ChloeWolfieGirl> Nothing_Much, IDK, I mean hopefully yes, but they don't have enough mind share and because theres so many... I think the CD-i thing is most likely to happen with the SteamBox...
[16:42] <Nothing_Much> ChloeWolfieGirl: Well, in the USA the ONLY way to watch TV from a cable provider is through either a Cable Card or a Cable Box, most of the time, Cable Boxes from companies lock you in and you have to use their channel guides without actually using the TV's features themselves, outside of Apps on the TV, but that would mean probably changing the Input
[16:42] <Nothing_Much> ChloeWolfieGirl: More like the 3DO, since that console had 3 different versions
[16:42] <pietroalbini> theBest, whatsapp blocks every user which uses a custom client for one day
[16:42] <rarara> QUESTION: Meizu, are you kidding?
[16:43] <Nothing_Much> But Steam Machines have a MAJOR thing going for them... Steam and SteamOS.
[16:43] <dpm> theBest, the diagram on this page will show you a bit more: http://developer.ubuntu.com/en/start/ubuntu-for-devices/porting-new-device/
[16:43] <ChloeWolfieGirl> Nothing_Much, I'm british I have no idea how that works, You can't just plug a cable into the tv for tv and connect the tv to the internet to watch what ever you want?
[16:43] <rarara> QUESTION: What do you think of KDE Plasma 5?
[16:44] <Nothing_Much> ChloeWolfieGirl: Nope, we have "all digital" areas which means that the signals need to be converted to be viewed on the TV
[16:44] <Nothing_Much> Although I'm pretty sure that it's DRM
[16:45] <ChloeWolfieGirl> Nothing_Much, 'Murica sounds great... and Nintendo and Sony say that its to difficult to bring out TV stuff in the UK, nintendo released there Tvii thing for the wii-u pretty much everywhere but europe/UK
[16:46] <Constantine> dpm, Perhaps you could answer that next week :-) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Philips_CD-i
[16:46] <Nothing_Much> ChloeWolfieGirl: I hope that was sarcastic with 'Murica being great and all.. which it is... sorta >.>
[16:47] <ChloeWolfieGirl> Nothing_Much, I was being sarcastic because of the weird way your internet tv things work... seems verry anti-consumer..
[16:47] <Nothing_Much> oh god it is
[16:48] <dpm> thanks Constantine :)
[16:48] <Constantine> np
[16:48] <Trump__> Has Canonical thought about starting a gofundme to buy out Microsoft and then take over the world with Ubuntu machines.?
[16:48] <ChloeWolfieGirl> Trump__, Beautiful
[16:48] <Nothing_Much> It is, mostly because our people don't care enough about this type of stuff, but I try to keep my head intact, and that when customers call in angry because their services were either disconnected or they failed to pay their bill
[16:48] <NaneK> [QUESTION] Will there be something like KDE Connect for Ubuntu?
[16:49] <Nothing_Much> It's entertainment for me
[16:49] <Constantine> QUESTION: What is the current phiolosphy about having a Physical UDS ? Tell us how else it could work, as of yet ?
[16:49] <theBest> pietroalbini, I thought maybe because they don't have a native client und Ubuntu for phones, they wont block it...
[16:49] <Constantine> **philosophy
[16:50] <Nothing_Much> Trump__: I'd love for that to happen, honestly :3
[16:50] <ChloeWolfieGirl> QUESTION: When will ubuntu come pre-installed with kittens?
[16:50] <dpm> lol
[16:51] * Constantine loves kittens :)
[16:51] <Nothing_Much> Download the kittens
[16:51] <Constantine> Ceck out the Kittens App.
[16:51] <Nothing_Much> I already have a cat though
[16:51] <Nothing_Much> Kittens app?
[16:51] <NaneK> Yes I meant for Unity. Thank you for the answer
[16:51] <Typewriter> I've been trying to move away from Windows for over 10 years, but the Linux landscape has just not been simple enough or friendly enough to move entirely in a production environment. Ubuntu has certainly come a long way with GUI and interface - any plans to further simplify?
[16:51] <mhall119> ChloeWolfieGirl: we already ship with `cat` :)
[16:52] <Nothing_Much> Typewriter: You can look and try out Unity 8 using one of the alpha builds somewhere on the Ubuntu website..
[16:52] <Constantine> Ghehe
[16:52] <rarara> QUESTION: If I write a .qml app for ubuntu, what are the chances of it running on sailfish too? (with modifications)
[16:53] <Constantine> they won't answer that, well.
[16:53] <mhall119> won't answer what?
[16:53] <ChloeWolfieGirl> QUESTION: will there be an official Ubuntu map app? I saw a map icon for it
[16:53] <ChloeWolfieGirl> mhall119 Haha xD
[16:53] <Constantine> mhall119: Do you own a Sailfish phone ?
[16:53] <mhall119> not myself, no, but I keep up witit
[16:53] <mhall119> with it
[16:54] <Constantine> k, good luck :)
[16:54] <Nothing_Much> What would be nice is if Jolla would port over the Android compatibility layer to ACTUAL GNU/Linux distros..
[16:54] <Nothing_Much> Then we'd have progress
[16:55] <Nothing_Much> But so far we don't, because they're strictly mobile and Android is garbage as it is right now. Ubuntu all the way with convergence!
[16:55] <mhall119> Nothing_Much: it's not theirs, they bought a license to a proprietary product
[16:56] <Knightmare> QUESTION: Does the Ubuntu community lack developers in your opinion?
[16:56] <Nothing_Much> mhall119: what?! Really? That's.. incredibly backwards..
[16:57] <ChloeWolfieGirl> Nothing_Much, I heard that the gui or something like that was propritary as well which is one reason I've been less into sailfish
[16:58] <Nothing_Much> I've heard about that too, but.. I mean I hear so much praise about that OS, and yet it's pretty much as backwards as Android is, probably even worse since it's not even trying to break away from Android dependency.
[17:00] <ChloeWolfieGirl> Nothing_Much, I used to be pretty excited about it and now to me it just seems like another thing the open source community has to fight, which is ashame because I think the OS community was pushing it forward originally..
[17:00] <mhall119> ChloeWolfieGirl: the UI toolkit and Sailfish interface are closed source, yes
[17:00] <mhall119> sorry, that was for Nothing_Much
[17:00] <Constantine> QUESTION: Could you thank-everybody for attending , and taking the time out of there day, today ?
[17:00] <Constantine> **their
[17:01] <Nothing_Much> ChloeWolfieGirl: They still are! It's like the majority of enthusiasts don't even understand how freedom works.. Granted, I don't like the MIT and BSD licenses, but at least the original source code is there.. ( not a developer )
[17:01] <Constantine> ChloeWolfieGirl: Your a good artist .. I saw you on Google plus :-)
[17:02] <ChloeWolfieGirl> Nothing_Much, Yeah... well if it wasn't for one of my friends I wouldn't know about it and would probably been singing its prases if Ubuntu touch wasn't the OS I wanted...
[17:03] <ChloeWolfieGirl> Constantine, Psh xD But thank you verry much, its greatly appreciated :3
[17:03] <Nothing_Much> I've known about it, but then I saw someone say "proprietary" and I was like "nope, I'm out, not getting any of my support"
[17:03] <Nothing_Much> Hey guys, it's passed 1pm!
[17:04] <Trump__> Thanks for the Q&A stream!
[17:04] <ChloeWolfieGirl> Nothing_Much, I think there tablet ad was like "Its time that the tablet got a real open source OS" what BS if its like that...
[17:04] <dpm> o/
[17:04] <ChloeWolfieGirl> Thank You for the Q&A guys x3
[17:05] <Nothing_Much> Yeah, marketing and the enthusiasts failed to do research, I expected that from the mainstream, but enthusiasts? Sheesh
[17:05] <Knightmare> Yeah thanks for answering my questions I know there was a lot!
[17:05] <ChloeWolfieGirl> Question was this a 2 hour Q&A or did youtube tell me the wrong starting time?
[17:05] <Constantine> Thanks everyone, bye.
[17:05] <Nothing_Much> ChloeWolfieGirl: It was 1 hour
[17:05] <Nothing_Much> As usual
[17:05] <Knightmare> DST?
[17:05] <ChloeWolfieGirl> Nothing_Much, so Youtube lied to me xD
[17:05] <Constantine> flys-by Huh ?
[17:05] <Nothing_Much> idk lol
[17:06] <ChloeWolfieGirl> told me it started at 16, but its 18 now meaning it would have started at 17...
[17:06] <Trump__> It was a 1 hour Q&A
[17:06] <Constantine> started at 17:00 pm
[17:06] <ChloeWolfieGirl> Youtube told me 16
[17:06] <Constantine> & now everyone quits ..
[17:07] <Nothing_Much> Youtube is glitchy
[17:07] <ChloeWolfieGirl> Yups
[17:07] <ChloeWolfieGirl> Nothing_Much, thats so annoyying...
[17:07] <Nothing_Much> But I only recently saw the 500 error of a Team of highly trained monkies
[17:07] <Nothing_Much> A few weeks ago
[17:08] <mhall119> ChloeWolfieGirl: it's 1700 UTC now, not 1800
[17:08] <theBest> Bye everyone. See you next week.
[17:08] <ChloeWolfieGirl> mhall119, but Youtube gives you it in your local time right?
[17:08] <ChloeWolfieGirl> mhall119, or suppose to?
[17:08] <mhall119> I have no idea :(
[17:09] <ChloeWolfieGirl> mhall119, well it told me 16 and I was like oh no I missed it, but I didn't so Its ok xD
[17:09] <Nothing_Much> Google+ should have
[17:10] <jak> first time to join here. been having trouble with Banshee where it would not respond and I need to force close it at some point. I never had the same trouble over other media players like vlc or tomahawk. heard this to happen from previous versions but as the nearest Ubuntu update is on, are there any expected updates for this?
[17:10] <Nothing_Much> jak: Try going to #ubuntu, which is the tech support chat
[17:11] <Constantine> jak, Ask next week @ the QnA
[17:11] <Nothing_Much> Or that
[17:11] <ChloeWolfieGirl> jak I've had issues playing the video via VLC...
[17:12] <jak> been there as well. well i just learned to live with it. but yea, thanks.
[17:15] <Nothing_Much> ChloeWolfieGirl: Question regarding Sailfish, what did you mean when you discovered it?
[17:16] <Nothing_Much> Like your friend talked about it being proprietary or was it your friend that lead you to it?
[17:17] <Constantine> What I listening to now : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z6-5BtL04W8
[18:11] <ChloeWolfieGirl> Nothing_Much, sorry got distracted and forgot #fooods and things em, I don't remember talking about discovering sailfish
[18:11] <ChloeWolfieGirl> But like I was pretty cool with sailfish os until my friend told me about the proprietery gui
[18:19] <Nothing_Much> ChloeWolfieGirl: Yeah it looked cool at first, but then proprietary stuff
[18:20] <Nothing_Much> No worries
[18:20] <ChloeWolfieGirl> Nothing_Much I don't mind a proprietery app every now and again BUT OS wide
[18:20] <ChloeWolfieGirl> I want MY OS free
[18:20] <Nothing_Much> Yeah, Steam's bittersweet for me though
[18:20] <Nothing_Much> I use it an all, but I hate that most games are locked to it, but it's tolerable
[18:21] <ChloeWolfieGirl> Nothing_Much, yeah, but at least theres GOG now
[18:21] <Nothing_Much> I wish Desura got more attention than GOG, to be honest
[18:21] <Nothing_Much> Most of the time I forget that I have a GOG account
[18:21] <Nothing_Much> And therefore I almost never buy anything from them
[18:22] <ChloeWolfieGirl> I installed Desura wrong I think... I used it a little but I don't know
[18:22] <Nothing_Much> I want convenience and freedom, Desura has that, but it's horribly unnoticed, and while it has a new owner but the development is.. not very active
[18:22] <Nothing_Much> Then again, there's also Lutris, made specifically for GNU/Linux
[18:24] <Nothing_Much> Although Lutris is mostly a game's manager, still dependent on stores, but then again, you can submit *any* game into it with a customized installer
[18:24] <Nothing_Much> https://lutris.net/
[18:25] <ChloeWolfieGirl> Desura has convergence?
[18:26] <Nothing_Much> Desura is a Steam-like client, but it's under the GPLv3, but not many people use it :\
[18:27] <Nothing_Much> There's some *really* good games which were mostly abandoned, sadly, either because they couldn't get onto Steam because of the lack of players or.. yeah that's pretty much it.
[18:27] <Nothing_Much> That's mostly an assumption though, because I only found one game that was abandoned which is free on Desura right now, but it's a pretty addictive casual game
[18:36] <ChloeWolfieGirl> I found tri on Desura, but then I couldnt find it on desura again and started telling me it was unavalible
|
ubuntu-chat
|
2024-05-13T22:11:15.649949
| 2015-04-07T00:00:00 |
{
"license": "Public Domain",
"authors": [
"ChloeWolfieGirl",
"Constantine",
"Hatim",
"Knightmare",
"Link_",
"NaneK",
"Nothing_Much",
"RogerH_",
"Trump_",
"Trump__",
"Typewriter",
"dpm",
"jak",
"mhall119",
"nik90",
"nixi",
"pietroalbini",
"prantak",
"rarara",
"systemb",
"theBest",
"trey_"
],
"url": "https://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2015/04/07/%23ubuntu-on-air.txt",
"channel": "#ubuntu-on-air"
}
|
2015-04-07-#ubuntu-it
|
[06:10] <akis24> giorno
[06:55] <alex123> buongiorno ragazzi
[06:56] <alex123> qualcuno puo aiutarmi nel creare una cartella consivisa in xubuntu?
[07:10] <alex123> non ce nessuno
[07:22] <akis24> alex123: http://chiedi.ubuntu-it.org/questions/513/come-condividere-in-rete-la-cartella-documenti-di-xubuntu-1304
[07:23] <akis24> !samba | alex123
[07:23] <ubot-it> alex123: http://wiki.ubuntu-it.org/Server/Samba
[07:49] <alex123> nno ci sto capnedo niente
[07:49] <alex123> uff
[08:25] <piro> ciao a tutti ho un problema con ubuntu 12.04 dopo che ho fatto l'avanzamento di versione dal 10.04 bal 12.04 mi risultano tutte le connessioni di rete disabillitate e non mi lascia fare assolutamente niente
[08:31] <jester-> 'ngiorno
[08:43] <piro> ciao a tutti ho un problema con ubuntu 12.04 dopo che ho fatto l'avanzamento di versione dal 10.04 bal 12.04 mi risultano tutte le connessioni di rete disabillitate e non mi lascia fare assolutamente niente
[08:44] <jester-> piro: fai nuova installazione con sistema ripristino che avanzamento lts to lts spesso viene farlocco se hai ppa
[08:45] <jester-> !ripristino | piro
[08:45] <ubot-it> piro: Per ripristinare un sistema danneggiato: http://wiki.ubuntu-it.org/Installazione/RipristinoInstallazione
[08:45] <jester-> logico che devi usare la live 14.04
[08:45] <jester-> se vuoi una lts
[08:47] <piro80> ok grazie speravo in qualcosa di più veloce ma va bene grazie ancora a tutti
[08:56] <garfield> Ciao a tutti. Non riesco ad accedere a un HDD esterno, qualcuno mi può aiutare?
[08:56] <jester-> garfield: sudo fdisk -l lo vede?
[08:58] <garfield> Sì, come /dev/sdb1
[08:59] <garfield> Viene visto anche dal gestore file, ma se entro con sudo nautilus non me lo vede più
[08:59] <jester-> garfield: fa un po vedere nel pastebin
[08:59] <jester-> !paste | garfield
[08:59] <ubot-it> garfield: http://paste.ubuntu.com/ servizio che permette di incollare lunghi output senza intasare il canale; incollare il testo, indicare il nick, premere paste e postare in canale l'indirizzo della pagina
[09:01] <garfield> http://paste.ubuntu.com/10759734/
[09:02] <jester-> garfield: sudo umount /dev/sdb1 e poi sudo mount /dev/sdb1 /mnt
[09:05] <garfield> http://paste.ubuntu.com/10759767/
[09:06] <jester-> garfield: era un disco raid?
[09:06] <garfield> No, era il disco master del vecchio pc che ho cannibalizzato
[09:07] <jester-> o raid illeggibile o il filesystem completamente a mignotte prova a formattarlo
[09:07] <garfield> Vorrei evitare di formattare, ho su qualcosa come 300 Gb di dati
[09:08] <jester-> se il fs è andato hai un cazzo da fare, sudo umount /dev/sdb1
[09:08] <jester-> garfield: sudo ntfsfix /dev/sdb1
[09:10] <garfield> http://paste.ubuntu.com/10759834/
[09:11] <jester-> garfield: sudo mount /dev/sdb1 /mnt
[09:12] <garfield> Mount is denied because the NTFS volume is already exclusively opened. The volume may be already mounted, or another software may use it which could be identified for example by the help of the 'fuser' command.
[09:12] <jester-> garfield: sudo umount /dev/sdb1
[09:12] <jester-> garfield: sudo mount /dev/sdb1 /mnt
[09:14] <garfield> Mi è tornato il prompt senza niente altro
[09:14] <garfield> Provo ad aprirlo?
[09:14] <jester-> garfield: vai in /mnt con nautilus normale non da root
[09:16] <garfield> Ci sono
[09:16] <jester-> che vedi
[09:17] <garfield> Una cartella di backup e una trash
[09:17] <jester-> garfield: ci dovrebbe essere la roba che cerchi
[09:18] <garfield> Ok, grazie mille!
[09:18] <jester-> visto che lo ha montato dopo lo scandisk
[09:20] <vadyme> ciao a tutti, ho bisogno aiuto. Prima volta con ubuntu e ho installato Ubuntu (sembra 14.10) su portatile Asus X5DC. Devo installare driver di video perché risoluzione non va oltre 640X480.
[09:20] <jester-> vadyme: apri un terminale
[09:20] <vadyme> Non riesco trovare e non lo so come trovare
[09:21] <garfield> No, ora non me lo vede più nemmeno nautilus normale, quello che ho trovato è una partizione del disco attuale
[09:22] <jester-> garfield: la partizione l'ha montata in /mnt se ci vai e non vedi nulla il file system è conciato male
[09:22] <jester-> ha segato tutto
[09:22] <garfield> Capito... windows e software di recupero dati?
[09:23] <jester-> garfield: esterno con adattatore alimentato?
[09:23] <garfield> Sì
[09:23] <vadyme> jester-: Strumenti di sistema-UXTerm o XTerm?
[09:23] <jester-> prova da winz visto che ntfs è roba sua
[09:23] <garfield> Ok, grazie mille!
[09:23] <jester-> vadyme: una vale l'altro ma c'è anche terminal
[09:24] <garfield> Alla prossima. Ciao e grazie ancora!
[09:24] <jester-> ciao
[09:24] <vadyme> jester-: ok, ho aperto terminale
[09:25] <jester-> vadyme: lsb_release -r
[09:27] <vadyme> 14.10
[09:27] <jester-> vadyme: lspci e metti tutto nel pastebin
[09:27] <jester-> !paste | vadyme
[09:27] <ubot-it> vadyme: http://paste.ubuntu.com/ servizio che permette di incollare lunghi output senza intasare il canale; incollare il testo, indicare il nick, premere paste e postare in canale l'indirizzo della pagina
[09:28] <gigirock_> !info pastebinit
[09:28] <ubot-it> pastebinit (source: pastebinit): command-line pastebin client. In component main, is optional. Version 1.4-3 (trusty), package size 14 kB, installed size 164 kB
[09:30] <vadyme> jester-: scusa, non ho capito
[09:30] <vadyme> in terminale ho meso ispci e non trovato
[09:31] <jester-> vadyme: scrivi bene: lspci
[09:35] <vadyme> jester-: adesso venuto tutto, pero sto qui con un altro computer come prendo tutto per vedere a voi?
[09:36] <jester-> vadyme: logico che devi collegarti dal pc in questione
[09:37] <vadyme> jester-: ok
[09:43] <Vadyme> jester-: adesso sono qiu
[09:43] <jester-> Vadyme: terminale
[09:43] <jester-> Vadyme: sudo apt-get install pastebinit
[09:44] <jester-> Vadyme: lspci | pastebinit
[09:44] <jester-> Vadyme: tornerà una url che incolli qui
[09:49] <Vadyme> http://paste.ubuntu.com/10760118/
[09:50] <jester-> Vadyme: aaahiiia vecchio pc con scheda SIS
[09:50] <gigirock> Vadyme, quanti anni ha quel pc ?
[09:51] <jester-> Vadyme: se su sito sis non c'è un driver linux sei nella palta
[09:51] <jester-> gigirock: ne ha assai, attorno al 2000
[09:52] <jester-> equivalente età umana sui 95 100
[09:52] <gigirock> jester-, forse le alternate vanno
[09:53] <Vadyme> jester: sembra da 2010
[09:53] <jester-> ma va
[09:53] <jester-> le sis sono sparite da molto prima
[09:54] <jester-> Vadyme: comunque le sis sono le peggio supportate
[09:54] <Vadyme> :(
[09:54] <jester-> visto che non le monta piu nessun costruttore
[09:55] <Vadyme> cosa devo fare?
[09:55] <jester-> prova a vedere sul sito per driver [SiS] 771/671
[09:57] <Vadyme> ok
[09:58] <jester-> Vadyme: xrandr -q | pastebinit
[09:58] <jester-> vediamo il driver in uso che supporta
[10:00] <Vadyme> http://paste.ubuntu.com/10760258/
[10:01] <ExPBoy> eh
[10:01] <jester-> Vadyme: non c'è verso non supporta oltre
[10:02] <jester-> Vadyme: lsmod | grep sis
[10:03] <Vadyme> ho trovato driver per linux sis650 & sis740 oppure sis630 & sis730
[10:03] <jester-> la tua è 771/671
[10:04] <jester-> il driver del sistema supporta SIS 300/630/540 and XGI V3XE/V5/V8
[10:07] <Vadyme> http://paste.ubuntu.com/10760277/
[10:11] <Vadyme> scusa, cosa devo fare?
[10:17] <jester-> Vadyme: il driver è in uso ma non supportando la tua scheda 100% setta una risoluzione minima, o trovi il driver per la tua 771/671 o provi la live della 12-04 che ha ancora supporta a vedere se è piu retrocompatibile, la retrocompatibilità dalla 13.04 è stata sempre piu ridotta
[10:17] <jester-> lubuntu i386 naturalmente
[10:18] <Vadyme> quindi mi serve installare un altro ubuntu?
[10:19] <jester-> Vadyme: http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/releases/12.04/release/ ti fai la live e la provi
[10:20] <jester-> se va da live va anche da installata
[10:22] <Vadyme> ok
[10:22] <jester-> Vadyme: quanta ram hai
[10:23] <Vadyme> non mi ricordo, sembra 2gb
[10:23] <Vadyme> come vedere quanti ram ho?
[10:24] <jester-> Vadyme: pia la desktop i386 http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/lubuntu/releases/12.04/release/
[10:24] <jester-> Vadyme: per vedere la ram comando: free
[10:25] <Vadyme> http://paste.ubuntu.com/10760447
[10:25] <jester-> Vadyme: cat /proc/cpuinfo | pastebinit
[10:26] <jester-> hai 3 gb
[10:26] <jester-> è strano pure con la ram il pc
[10:28] <Vadyme> vedo solo PC(intel x86) install/live DVD, pero desktop i386 non vedo
[10:28] <jester-> Vadyme: akis24 in regia ti ha trovato il workaround ma serve la 12.04
[10:28] <jester-> Vadyme: https://sites.google.com/site/easylinuxtipsproject/sis
[10:33] <jester-> Vadyme: http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/lubuntu/releases/12.04/release/lubuntu-12.04-desktop-i386.iso vado a cibarmi
[10:33] <Vadyme> grazie di tutto per ora, installo 12.04 e vado avanti
[10:34] <Vadyme> ciao
[10:34] <jester-> Vadyme: prendi nota del link
[10:34] <jester-> https://sites.google.com/site/easylinuxtipsproject/sis
[10:34] <Vadyme> si, ho copiato tutto conversazione
[15:06] <asso> salve
[15:06] <asso> mi date unba mano?
[15:06] <asso> ho installato windows 8.1
[15:06] <asso> e non ho piu il bootloader
[15:07] <asso> perche usavo ubuntu 14.04 lts
[15:07] <asso> ora sono con un cd live di kubuntu
[15:07] <asso> 13.10
[15:07] <asso> >*
[15:07] <cristian_c> !mbr | asso
[15:07] <ubot-it> asso: Per ripristinare MBR: http://wiki.ubuntu-it.org/AmministrazioneSistema/RipristinoMbrWindows
[15:08] <cristian_c> asso, ma probabilmente, se è winz 8, è gpt e non va bene
[15:08] <cristian_c> asso, ma prima cosa c'era sul disco?
[15:08] <asso> prima avevo vari ubuntu
[15:08] <cristian_c> lol
[15:08] <cristian_c> asso, con cosa è stato venduto quel disco?
[15:09] <asso> stavo utilizzando ultimamente ubuntu 14.o4
[15:09] <asso> e avevo anche windows 7
[15:09] <asso> windows 8.1
[15:09] <cristian_c> asso, pc con winz 7 preinstallato?
[15:09] <asso> me lo ha prestato un amico
[15:09] <cristian_c> cosa?
[15:09] <asso> si pc con win 7 oem
[15:10] <asso> il dvd di win 8.1 me lo ha prestato un amico
[15:10] <asso> ma ora non posso avviare ubuntu
[15:10] <cristian_c> asso, winz 8 versione retail?
[15:10] <asso> si
[15:11] <cristian_c> asso, quindi , se all'inizio c'era winz 7, cos'hai fatto dopo?
[15:11] <asso> e ho inserito key generica
[15:11] <cristian_c> lol
[15:11] <asso> si. all-inizio c era win 7. poi ho aggiunto kuibuntu ubuntu etc
[15:12] <cristian_c> asso, in dual boot?
[15:12] <asso> e conb grub avviavo quello che desideravo
[15:12] <asso> multi bot lol
[15:12] <cristian_c> asso, non hai eliminato partizioni, vero?
[15:12] <asso> no
[15:12] <asso> ho modificato
[15:12] <cristian_c> asso, posta schermata di gparted
[15:13] <asso> e ho creato altre per ubuntu etc
[15:13] <cristian_c> asso, come hai ridotto winz?
[15:13] <asso> ma ora sono con un cd live
[15:13] <cristian_c> asso, posta schermata di gparted
[15:13] <asso> ho ridotto con gparted
[15:13] <cristian_c> asso, eh, no
[15:13] <cristian_c> asso, non va mica bene
[15:14] <asso> ah
[15:14] <cristian_c> !installazione
[15:14] <ubot-it> http://wiki.ubuntu-it.org/Installazione | Per installazione grafica http://wiki.ubuntu-it.org/Installazione/Grafica | Si consiglia la visione della guida ufficiale in inglese http://www.ubuntu.com/desktop/get-ubuntu/download
[15:14] <asso> puoi aiutarmi a riparare grub
[15:14] <asso> o ripristinarlo
[15:14] <cristian_c> asso, http://wiki.ubuntu-it.org/Installazione/Standard#Precauzioni_per_Windows
[15:15] <cristian_c> asso, il disco ha tabella ms-dos o gpt?
[15:15] <asso> ora il danno e fatto
[15:16] <cristian_c> Nei sistemi Windows le copie shadow non consentono di ridimensionare la partizione di sistema oltre un certo limite. In caso contrario si corre il rischio di compromettere irrimediabilmente il funzionamento di Windows. Per conoscere questo limite applicare la seguente procedura utilizzando un account con privilegi amministrativi:
[15:16] <asso> non lo so se dos o gpt
[15:16] <cristian_c> asso, controlla in gparted
[15:16] <asso> ma non ho gparted
[15:16] <cristian_c> asso, come no?
[15:16] <cristian_c> non sei in live?
[15:16] <asso> si
[15:16] <cristian_c> lol
[15:16] <asso> kubuntu 13.10
[15:16] <cristian_c> asso, avvia gparted
[15:17] <cristian_c> asso, allora kpart
[15:17] <asso> posso usare fdisk
[15:17] <asso> ?
[15:17] <cristian_c> o quello che è
[15:17] <dadexix86> asso, su kubuntu non c'è gparted, devi installarlo
[15:17] <asso> sono live
[15:17] <cristian_c> dadexix86, ma anche quello di kubuntu
[15:17] <cristian_c> come si chiama?
[15:18] <dadexix86> cristian_c, io direi di installare gparted, quello di kubuntu a me ha incasinato le partizioni non poco l'ultima volta che l'ho usato (per gli allineamenti)
[15:18] <dadexix86> asso, e quindi? installalo e lancialo :) da live puoi installare tutti i programmi che vuoi senza problemi
[15:18] <cristian_c> asso, sudo apt-get install gparted
[15:18] <cristian_c> anche in live
[15:18] <asso> kde partition manager
[15:19] <cristian_c> asso, comunque, solo per vedere, mostra una schermata
[15:21] <asso> dove?
[15:22] <cristian_c> !image | asso
[15:22] <ubot-it> asso: Carica un'immagine su https://imgur.com/ | http://imageshack.us/ (richiede registrazione) e metti un collegamento ad essa in canale.
[15:24] <asso> http://imgur.com/0YAt8Hy
[15:27] <cristian_c> asso, immagino ms-dos
[15:27] <cristian_c> asso, sudo fdisk -l
[15:28] <asso> io non lo so
[15:28] <cristian_c> lol
[15:28] <cristian_c> asso, cos'è sda1?
[15:28] <asso> Disk /dev/sda: 500.1 GB, 500107862016 bytes
[15:28] <asso> 255 heads, 63 sectors/track, 60801 cylinders, total 976773168 sectors
[15:28] <asso> Units = sectors of 1 * 512 = 512 bytes
[15:28] <asso> Sector size (logical/physical): 512 bytes / 512 bytes
[15:28] <asso> I/O size (minimum/optimal): 512 bytes / 512 bytes
[15:28] <asso> Disk identifier: 0x0006178c
[15:28] <asso> Device Boot Start End Blocks Id System
[15:31] <asso> sda1? non lo so
[15:32] <asso> potrebbe essere kubuntu 13.10
[15:32] <cristian_c> !paste | asso
[15:32] <ubot-it> asso: http://paste.ubuntu.com/ servizio che permette di incollare lunghi output senza intasare il canale; incollare il testo, indicare il nick, premere paste e postare in canale l'indirizzo della pagina
[15:32] <asso> oppure lubuntu 13.10
[15:32] <asso> oppure ubuntu 14.04
[15:32] <cristian_c> asso, come hai fatto a crearla in cima alla tabella?
[15:32] <asso> sinceramente non lo so
[15:32] <cristian_c> asso, notoriamente in cima ci vanno le partizioni windows
[15:32] <cristian_c> asso, lol
[15:32] <asso> io ho installato win 8.1 sulla partizione dove c era win 7
[15:32] <cristian_c> asso, le hai traslate?
[15:33] <cristian_c> asso, sda3?
[15:33] <asso> sisi
[15:33] <cristian_c> cosa?
[15:33] <asso> sda3 prima c era win 7 ora c e win 8.1
[15:34] <asso> non le ho traslate
[15:35] <cristian_c> asso, eh, ma il bootloader è quello di winz 7
[15:35] <asso> volevo dire che in sda3 ho installato win 8.1
[15:35] <cristian_c> asso, qualcosa c'era in tutto quello spazio in sda1
[15:35] <asso> non lo so. adesso mi part win 8.1
[15:35] <cristian_c> asso, ma va?
[15:36] <cristian_c> asso, il bootloader sta in sda1
[15:36] <cristian_c> *sda2
[15:36] <cristian_c> asso, reinstalla il grub e amen
[15:36] <cristian_c> !grub | asso
[15:36] <ubot-it> asso: http://wiki.ubuntu-it.org/AmministrazioneSistema/Grub/ | Per ripristinare Grub: http://wiki.ubuntu-it.org/AmministrazioneSistema/Grub/Ripristino
[15:36] <asso> forse in sda1 c'e' kubuntu 13.10 che e' il primo che ho installato dopo aver effettuato una low level format
[15:36] <cristian_c> asso, ?
[15:37] <asso> si dimmi
[15:37] <cristian_c> asso, sì, però non funziona così, le info essenziali si danno all'inizio , quando si descrive il problema
[15:37] <asso> perdono
[15:38] <cristian_c> asso, in quello spazio cosa c'era prima di kubuntu?
forse in sda1 c'e' kubuntu 13.10 che e' il primo che ho installato dopo aver effettuato una low level format
[15:38] <cristian_c> asso, il tuo attuale problema è l'assenza di grub?
[15:39] <asso> niente
[15:40] <asso> si. il mio attuale problema e' l' assenza di grub
[15:40] <cristian_c> asso, niente non è possibile
[15:40] <asso> Searching for GRUB installation directory ... found: /boot/grub
[15:40] <asso> Searching for default file ... Generating /boot/grub/default file and setting the default boot entry to 0
[15:40] <asso> Searching for GRUB installation directory ... found: /boot/grub
[15:40] <asso> Testing for an existing GRUB menu.lst file ...
[15:40] <asso> Searching for GRUB installation directory ... found: /boot/grub
[15:40] <cristian_c> asso, è uno spazio non vuoto
[16:03] <onepbl> buonasera vorrei sapere come installare un nuovo tema su ubuntu, ho scaricato ma non mi fa copiare nella cartella Themes perchè ho bisogno dei permessi
[16:04] <cristian_c> onepbl, su unity?
[16:04] <onepbl> cristian_c, domanda difficile, sulla piattaforma originale
[16:13] <cristian_c> onepbl, hai installato ubuntu, kubuntu, xubuntu o cos'altro?
[16:21] <gigirock> onepbl: puoi anche sbagliare la risposta non c'è punizione al primo errore
[16:54] <pazzodaerroridin> ciao =) , ho un probblema con l' ubuntu software center : non si avvia . qualcuno mi puo aiutare
[17:00] <toshiba_> salve a tutti/e ho comprato smartphone bq aquarius 4.5, l'ho collegato al notebook, ma non lo vedo. dove sbaglio?
[17:04] <cybernova> !dettagli | pazzodaerroridin
[17:04] <ubot-it> pazzodaerroridin: Per favore dacci dettagli completi. Per esempio "Ho un problema con..., sto usando Ubuntu versione... con interfaccia.... Quando provo a fare..., ottengo questo output: ..., ma mi sarei aspettato che facesse..."
[17:05] <krabador> elencando anche cpu/ram/scheda video
[17:05] <krabador> modelli completi
[17:05] <krabador> e valori precisi
[17:06] <toshiba_> come si sincronizza smartphone aquarius 4.5 ubuntu edition con ubuntu 14.04
[17:10] <dadexix86> toshiba_, cosa intendi con "sincronizza"?
[17:10] <dadexix86> toshiba_, quali dati vuoi sincronizzare esattamente?
[17:11] <pazzodaerroridin> non si avvia ubuntu software center sto usando ubuntu 14.04 con interfaccia (non lo so ho fatto il download da questa paggina http://www.ubuntu.com/download/desktop) quando provo a cliccare l'ubuntu software center non si avvia e mi sarei aspettato che si avviasse
[17:11] <toshiba_> tipo la cartella foto video e musica
[17:13] <dadexix86> attacca il telefono all'USB, sblocca lo schermo e navigaci dentro con nautilus. a schermo bloccato il telefono è inaccessibile da mtp
[17:13] <pazzodaerroridin> ram 993,1 MiB
[17:14] <pazzodaerroridin> cpu Intel® Atom™ CPU N455 @ 1.66GHz × 2
[17:14] <krabador> pazzodaerroridin, installa lubuntu in netbook
[17:14] <pazzodaerroridin> scheda video Intel® Atom™ CPU N455 @ 1.66GHz × 2
[17:14] <krabador> pazzodaerroridin, http://lubuntu.net/
[17:15] <pazzodaerroridin> perche`?
[17:15] <krabador> pazzodaerroridin, e scheda video e processore non sono uguali
[17:15] <krabador> pazzodaerroridin, perchè per i netbook ubuntu è pesante
[17:15] <pazzodaerroridin> ops
[17:15] <krabador> lubuntu è la piu' indicata per netbook
[17:15] <pazzodaerroridin> scheda video Intel® IGD x86/MMX/SSE2
[17:16] <krabador> pazzodaerroridin, installa lubuntu in netbook
[17:16] <krabador> pazzodaerroridin, http://lubuntu.net/
[17:16] <pazzodaerroridin> ho provato lubuntu ma non mi piace il desktop cmq ho fatto modifiche tipo Zram
[17:17] <dadexix86> toshiba_, se non riesci a fare come sopra, attacca il telefono, sblocca lo schermo e poi postami su pastebin dmesg | tail -n 20 | grep -i usb
[17:17] <pazzodaerroridin> volevo dire che unetbotin non funziona
[17:17] <krabador> pazzodaerroridin, unetbootin non ci compete
[17:17] <pazzodaerroridin> prendete provedimenti plis
[17:17] <krabador> !usbwin | pazzodaerroridin
[17:17] <ubot-it> pazzodaerroridin: Scarica Universal USB Installer: http://www.pendrivelinux.com/universal-usb-installer-easy-as-1-2-3/ | Installalo su Windows e lancialo: lui si occuperà di trasferire l'immagine ISO su USB. Guida: http://www.ubuntu.com/download/desktop/create-a-usb-stick-on-windows | Opzionalmente questo programma può anche scaricare lui stesso l'immagine ISO
[17:17] <pazzodaerroridin> ma lo consigliate sul sito
[17:18] <krabador> !usbwin | pazzodaerroridin
[17:18] <pazzodaerroridin> cmq ho installato Ubuntu
[17:18] <pazzodaerroridin> dopo tante fatiche
[17:18] <krabador> pazzodaerroridin, il boot da usb ha un coefficiente di variabili tale, da non consentire una linea unica per tutti
[17:18] <krabador> ci sono differenze di come i vari bios applicano il boot da usb
[17:19] <toshiba_> http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/10764296/
[17:19] <pazzodaerroridin> non lo sapevo cmq grazie .... tornando al probblema principale c'e` soluzione?
[17:20] <krabador> pazzodaerroridin, installare lubuntu
[17:20] <krabador> che ti piaccia o no, ubuntu è pesante per l'hardware di un netbook
[17:21] <pazzodaerroridin> e` la solaa soluzione al probblema del software center ?
[17:23] <krabador> pazzodaerroridin, apri un terminale, digita sudo apt-get install pastebinit
[17:23] <krabador> invio
[17:23] <krabador> pazzodaerroridin, sudo apt-get update | pastebinit
[17:23] <krabador> quest'ultimo restituisce un link
[17:23] <dadexix86> toshiba_, posta cat /var/log/udev
[17:24] <krabador> che incolli qui, per favore
[17:25] <pazzodaerroridin> questo? http://it.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ utopic/main pastebinit all 1.4-3
[17:26] <toshiba_> http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/10764366/
[17:26] <krabador> pazzodaerroridin, puoi per favore fare quanto suggerito, e non girarci intorno ?
[17:27] <pazzodaerroridin> scusa
[17:28] <pazzodaerroridin> mi sono dimenticato del secondo
[17:28] <pazzodaerroridin> 3 errori W: Impossibile recuperare http://it.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/utopic-security/main/source/Sources Somma hash non corrispondente
[17:28] <pazzodaerroridin> W: Impossibile recuperare http://it.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/utopic-security/main/i18n/Translation-en Somma hash non corrispondente
[17:28] <pazzodaerroridin> W: Impossibile recuperare http://it.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/utopic-updates/main/i18n/Translation-en Somma hash non corrispondente
[17:28] <pazzodaerroridin> E: Impossibile scaricare alcuni file di indice: saranno ignorati o verranno usati quelli vecchi.
[17:28] <pazzodaerroridin> Bad API request, invalid api_dev_key
[17:30] <pazzodaerroridin> scuste si e` disconnesso cmq W: Impossibile recuperare http://it.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/utopic-security/main/source/Sources Somma hash non corrispondente
[17:30] <pazzodaerroridin> W: Impossibile recuperare http://it.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/utopic-security/main/i18n/Translation-en Somma hash non corrispondente
[17:30] <pazzodaerroridin> W: Impossibile recuperare http://it.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/utopic-updates/main/i18n/Translation-en Somma hash non corrispondente
[17:30] <pazzodaerroridin> E: Impossibile scaricare alcuni file di indice: saranno ignorati o verranno usati quelli vecchi.
[17:30] <pazzodaerroridin> Bad API request, invalid api_dev_key
[17:36] <vrop> sono pazzodaerroridin qualcuno chiamato ubot mi ha bannato
[17:36] <krabador> vrop, non si puo' incollare in canale
[17:37] <krabador> si viene kickati in automatico, per evitare spam in canale
[17:37] <krabador> sudo apt-get install pastebinit
[17:37] <krabador> sudo apt-get update | pastebinit
[17:37] <assom> sera, sono asso
[17:38] <krabador> vrop, copi ed incolli, se non commetti errori di copiatura
[17:38] <assom> non sono riuscito a reinstallare grub
[17:38] <assom> aime
[17:38] <assom> ho questo problema dopo l installazione di windows 8.1
[17:39] <krabador> vrop, restituisce un link, che devi incollare qui dentro. Un link , è un normale indirizzo internet, di quelli che trovi nel browser, quando navighi sui vari siti
[17:39] <assom> non mi compare piu grub
[17:39] <krabador> assom, apri il terminale, sudo apt-get install pastebinit
[17:39] <vrop> si ma posso incollarlo?
[17:39] <assom> ora sono su una live di ubuntu 13.10
[17:39] <vrop> nela barra chat
[17:39] <assom> cosa posso fare?
[17:39] <krabador> vrop, sicuro di leggere quanto ti si scrive?
[17:39] <krabador> assom, apri il terminale, sudo apt-get install pastebinit
[17:40] <krabador> assom, sudo fdisk -l | pastebinit
[17:40] <assom> ok
[17:40] <vrop> mi da 3 link
[17:40] <assom> comandi
[17:40] <krabador> vrop, te ne da uno solo
[17:40] <vrop> http://it.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/utopic-security/main/source/Sources
[17:40] <krabador> vrop, sbagliato
[17:40] <vrop> 1 e` questo
[17:40] <krabador> non è un link di quel tipo
[17:40] <krabador> vrop, allora
[17:40] <krabador> smetti di incollare cose
[17:41] <vrop> mi da errori
[17:41] <vrop> W:
[17:41] <vrop> ed E:
[17:41] <krabador> vrop, allora, sudo apt-get update
[17:41] <krabador> vrop, poi vai sul sito pastebinit
[17:41] <krabador> !paste | vrop
[17:41] <ubot-it> vrop: http://paste.ubuntu.com/ servizio che permette di incollare lunghi output senza intasare il canale; incollare il testo, indicare il nick, premere paste e postare in canale l'indirizzo della pagina
[17:42] <krabador> incolli li dentro il risultato del comando dal terminale
[17:42] <krabador> clicchi paste
[17:42] <krabador> e dopo incolli qui il link
[17:42] <krabador> solo il link
[17:43] <vrop> 3 W: e una E: dal sudo apt-get update
[17:44] <krabador> vrop, per favore, segui quanto indicato
[17:44] <krabador> vrop, se non hai voglia, nessun problema, torna quando hai voglia
[17:44] <vrop> questo e` il codice precedente a sudo apt-get update http://paste.ubuntu.com/10764544/
[17:45] <vrop> e questo e` quello di ora http://paste.ubuntu.com/10764570/
[17:46] <vrop> scusa sono lento
[17:47] <krabador> vrop, hai inserito ppa , nella tua ubuntu 14.10,
[17:47] <krabador> ed hai problemi con il repository ufficiale, per questo hai problemi
[17:48] <vrop> si ecco il file http://paste.ubuntu.com/10764586/
[17:48] <vrop> sources.list
[17:49] <vrop> lo ho trovato su internet
[17:49] <krabador> vrop, cita la fonte, per favore
[17:50] <vrop> http://repogen.simplylinux.ch/
[17:51] <krabador> non rispondiamo di sistemi operativi modificati sencondo risorse non ufficiali
[17:51] <krabador> e seguendo guide non ufficiali
[17:51] <vrop> per sbaglio ho cancellato la sources lis
[17:52] <krabador> con problematiche derivanti da modifiche con provenienza di quel tipo, ci si rivolga a chi gestisce tali fonti
[17:52] <vrop> era l-unica scelta
[17:52] <krabador> vrop, no, seguire la documentazione ufficiale avrebbe risolto il problema
[17:52] <vrop> dove lo trovavo il file uguale?
[17:53] <krabador> vrop, ma tu, se ti si rompe un lavandino, vai dal meccanico a chidere?
[17:53] <krabador> vrop, lsb_release -a
[17:53] <krabador> e fa il pastebin per favore
[17:55] <vrop> http://paste.ubuntu.com/10764638/
[17:55] <krabador> vrop, problemi con il terminale?
[17:55] <krabador> ok
[17:55] <krabador> ok, sei completamente offtopic
[17:55] <krabador> ciao
[17:55] <vrop> cie`
[17:56] <krabador> quando avrai ubuntu , o derivata ufficiale, avrai supporto qui
[17:56] <krabador> fino ad allora, buone cose.
[17:57] <vrop> almeno il probblema e` kali
[17:57] <krabador> chiedi a chi si occupa di quella distribuzione
[17:57] <krabador> hai altre domande?
[17:57] <vrop> ma e` un ubuntu modificato
[17:58] <vrop> il software center dovrebbe funzionare
[17:58] <krabador> questo canale è per il supporto a ubuntu e http://www.ubuntu-it.org/derivate
[17:59] <krabador> vrop, tra l'altro hai detto prima <pazzodaerroridin> non si avvia ubuntu software center sto usando ubuntu 14.04 con interfaccia (non lo so ho fatto il download da questa paggina http://www.ubuntu.com/download/desktop) quando provo a cliccare l'ubuntu software center non si avvia e mi sarei aspettato che si avviasse
[17:59] <krabador> buon proseguimento
[18:00] <vrop> non ho mentito sono andato su About this computer ed e` uscito questo
[18:01] <vrop> non posso entrare nelle derivate
[18:01] <vrop> non e` una derivata be almeno la ho creata io
[18:02] <vrop> cmq grazie sinceramente
[18:02] <vrop> almeno tu hai risposto
[18:03] <toshiba_> help me
[18:04] <dadexix86> toshiba_, l'output che ti ho chiesto?
[18:05] <krabador> dadexix86, l'ha mandato prima
[18:05] <krabador> http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/10764366/
[18:06] <dadexix86> krabador, ho avuto dei problemi di connessione e si è connesso e disconnesso, grazie :)
[18:06] <krabador> toshiba_, per favore , puoi fare un pastebin di ls /etc/udev/rules.d
[18:06] <krabador> dadexix86, di niente
[18:07] <dadexix86> krabador, non era quello l'output che volevo :) volevo quello di ls /run/user/1000/gvfs*
[18:07] <dadexix86> toshiba_, qual è l'output di quel comando? -^
[18:07] <toshiba_> http://paste.ubuntu.com/10764789/
[18:08] <krabador> dadexix86, l'ultima cosa che hai chiesto in canale è stata <dadexix86> toshiba_, posta cat /var/log/udev
[18:08] <alexkk> buonasera a tutti voi, una domanda: se devo comprare un harddisk esterno devo cercarne uno k sia compatibile cn ubuntu oppure sono tutti compatibili?
[18:08] <krabador> sono tutti compatibilii
[18:09] <alexkk> grazie ;)
[18:09] <dadexix86> krabador, ok, scusatemi, evidentemente la connessione è andata giù già prima :) toshiba_ posta ls /run/user/1000/gvfs*
[18:11] <krabador> toshiba_, allora sudo gedit /etc/udev/rules.d/51-android.rules incolli la linea SUBSYSTEM=="usb", ATTR{idVendor}=="2a47", MODE="0666", GROUP="plugdev" , poi sudo chmod a+r /etc/udev/rules.d/51-android.rules poi sudo service udev restart poi riattacca il telefoo
[18:14] <krabador> dopo aver incollato la linea dentro gedit, salvi chiudi e prosegui con gli altri comandi
[18:17] <toshiba_> non sucede nulla, devo riavviare?
[18:17] <bip> Buonasera :)
[18:17] <onepbl> buonasera avrei bisogno di assistenza per installazione di nuoto tema su ubuntu 14.10
[18:18] <krabador> toshiba_, cat /etc/udev/rules.d/51-android.rules
[18:19] <toshiba_> http://paste.ubuntu.com/10764906/
[18:19] <bip> onepbl, ti consiglio di dare uno sguardo al pacchetto: GNOME Art Manager
[18:21] <onepbl> bip, cioè cosa dovrei fare? ho provato ad aggiungere altri temi spostandoli sulla finestra di "aspetto" ma non li prende
[18:25] <dadexix86> toshiba_, mi mandi a telefono collegato ls /run/user/1000/gvfs* per favore? :)
[18:26] <toshiba_> http://paste.ubuntu.com/10764986/
[18:27] <krabador> toshiba_, dpkg -l | grep mtp
[18:28] <toshiba_> http://paste.ubuntu.com/10765005/
[18:31] <dadexix86> toshiba_, gvfs-mount --list
[18:32] <toshiba_> http://paste.ubuntu.com/10765055/
[18:33] <dadexix86> toshiba_, ma sei sicuro che il telefono sia connesso al computer, su una USB almeno 2.0? prova a cambiare porta e cavo
[18:33] <dadexix86> toshiba_, e non usare hub intermedi
[18:34] <dadexix86> toshiba_, ovvero collegalo direttamente alle porte del computer
[18:35] <toshiba_> utilizzo il cavo originale collegato direttamente alla porta usb, entrambe 2.0
[18:35] <onepbl> Qualche aiuto per gestione temi grafici per ubuntu 14.10
[18:35] <toshiba_> non è che devo riavviare?
[18:37] <krabador> toshiba_, è sbloccato lo schermo del telefono?
[18:38] <toshiba_> si
[18:38] <krabador> toshiba_, lsusb
[18:38] <krabador> pastebin
[18:39] <toshiba_> http://paste.ubuntu.com/10765110/
[18:40] <dadexix86> lsusb lo vede correttamente (prima riga)... toshiba_ potresti provare ad abilitare la modalità sviluppatore sul telefono?
[18:41] <toshiba_> ok
[18:41] <dadexix86> toshiba_, Impostazioni>info sul telefono>modalità sviluppatore
[18:41] <dadexix86> toshiba_, poi staccalo, aspetta qualche secondo e riattaccalo
[18:41] <dadexix86> sempre a schermo acceso
[18:44] <toshiba_> mi dice di mettere un codice, dove lo trovo?
[18:49] <toshiba_> ho fatto ma non è successo nulla
[18:51] <dadexix86> il codice è quello di sblocco del telefono
[18:53] <toshiba_> si, ma non succede nulla, dite che sia il caso di riavviare entrambe le macchine?
[18:53] <dadexix86> mah, prova
[18:54] <toshiba_> ok
[18:54] <dadexix86> in teoria non dovrebbe cambiare nulla
[18:54] <dadexix86> ma non si sa mai...
[18:55] <toshiba_> speriamo, il telefono è fantastico anche se manca di cose che chiederò in seguito, ora riavvio, grazie per il tempo dedicatomi.
[18:55] <dadexix86> facci sapere
[19:01] <toshiba_> buona sera non è cambiato nulla.
[19:20] <dadexix86> toshiba_, hai provato per caso a cambiare porta?
[19:23] <toshiba_> si ma non succede nulla, tutto invariato, mi sono accorto anche che non so come si possa fare l hub
[19:25] <dadexix86> l'hub è un coso tipo questo https://www.google.it/search?q=hub+usb&safe=off&espv=2&biw=1366&bih=657&tbm=isch&tbo=u&source=univ&sa=X&ei=HS8kVcTaHsG2sgHW9oKADg&ved=0CCcQsAQ
[19:27] <toshiba_> no scusa volevo dire per navigare con l'ausilio del smarphone
[19:29] <iacopo> ciao
[19:29] <iacopo> c'è qualcuno?
[19:29] <dadexix86> non capisco cosa intendi... intendi fare il tethering? al momento non è ancora supportato dall'interfaccia grafica, devi farlo da terminale (sul telefono). ma facciamo una cosa per volta. ora ho chiesto in irc internazionale
[19:29] <fabio_cc> !ciao | iacopo
[19:29] <ubot-it> iacopo: Ciao! Benvenuto in #ubuntu-it
[19:29] <cristian_c> !qualcuno | iacopo
[19:29] <ubot-it> iacopo: la maggior parte delle prime domande fatte in questo canale è del tipo «qualcuno puo' aiutarmi/qualcuno ha tempo/qualcuno usa...?». Fate la vostra domanda tecnica e se qualcuno sa, rispondera'
[19:30] <dadexix86> toshiba_, suggeriscono di provare ad accederci tramite adb
[19:30] <dadexix86> toshiba_, mastichi un po' di inglese?
[19:31] <iacopo> ho un problema.... qualcuno può aiutarmi a far si che il mio hp pavillon con ubuntu si riesca a connettere tramite wifi??
[19:32] <cristian_c> iacopo, sei connesso via cavo?
[19:32] <cristian_c> ora
[19:32] <iacopo> si
[19:32] <cristian_c> iacopo, apri un terminale e digita: lshw -C network
[19:32] <cristian_c> iacopo, inoltre digita: rfkill list
[19:33] <cristian_c> iacopo, incolla entrambi i risultati su pastebin
[19:33] <cristian_c> !paste | iacopo
[19:33] <ubot-it> iacopo: http://paste.ubuntu.com/ servizio che permette di incollare lunghi output senza intasare il canale; incollare il testo, indicare il nick, premere paste e postare in canale l'indirizzo della pagina
[19:33] <toshiba_> si si.... come ho detto prima sono molte le cose che mancano su questo telefono. ottimo il lavoro sul sistema operativo ma manca per sempio la voce per utilizzarlo come navigatore satellitale, tethering e whatsapp cose fondamentali, utlizzo telegram ma non è molto stabile, ora devo andare ci sentiamo domani sera
[19:34] <toshiba_> cosa è adb
[19:34] <cristian_c> !info android-tools-adb
[19:34] <ubot-it> android-tools-adb (source: android-tools): Android Debug Bridge CLI tool. In component universe, is extra. Version 4.2.2+git20130218-3ubuntu23 (trusty), package size 60 kB, installed size 223 kB (Only available for linux-any)
[19:35] <toshiba_> si un pò lo capisco.
[19:35] <iacopo> http://paste.ubuntu.com/10765706/
[19:36] <cristian_c> product: BCM4312 802.11b/g LP-PHY
[19:37] <cristian_c> !broadcom | iacopo
[19:37] <ubot-it> iacopo: Dispositivo senza filo Broadcom http://wiki.ubuntu-it.org/Hardware/DispositiviSenzaFili/Broadcom
[19:38] <toshiba_> buona notte a tutti/e
[19:38] <cristian_c> toshiba_, notte
[19:38] <iacopo> notte toshiba_
[19:39] <iacopo> cristian_c cosa sarebbe quello che hai scritto? (product: BCM4312 802.11b/g LP-PHY)
[19:41] <cristian_c> iacopo, è il tuo chip wifi
[19:41] <cristian_c> iacopo, ti ho anche linkato una guida wiki su come abilitare il wifi sul tuo pc
[19:42] <iacopo> è questa? http://wiki.ubuntu-it.org/Hardware/DispositiviSenzaFili/Broadcom
[19:42] <cristian_c> sì
[19:43] <iacopo> ok
[19:43] <iacopo> ora provo a leggermela e a vedere di fare quello che dice. poi se il problema persiste proverò a chiedere di nuovo intanto grazie
[19:44] <iacopo> qualche consiglio su come iniziare a conoscere questo sistema operativo?
[19:49] <cristian_c> !documentazione | iacopo
[19:49] <ubot-it> iacopo: Documentazione ufficiale http://help.ubuntu-it.org - Documentazione della comunità http://wiki.ubuntu-it.org/Documentazione - Gruppo documentazione: pagina principale http://wiki.ubuntu-it.org/GruppoDocumentazione
[22:42] <ciron> krabador, devo solo avere fiducia in me stesso e osare. Amo il percorso di vita che sto facendo, Quando si sceglie di essere se stessi e di non uniformarsi alla massa, le paure o le tensioni sono sempre maggiori. Basta solo pensare a cio che ci muove al cambiamento, basta tenerlo sempre a mente per non abbandonare i sogni e i desideri.
[22:43] <krabador> ciron, questo magari in chat
[22:43] <krabador> era meglio
[22:44] <ciron> asp
|
ubuntu-chat
|
2024-05-13T22:11:15.667621
| 2015-04-07T00:00:00 |
{
"license": "Public Domain",
"authors": [
"ExPBoy",
"Vadyme",
"akis24",
"alex123",
"alexkk",
"asso",
"assom",
"bip",
"ciron",
"cristian_c",
"cybernova",
"dadexix86",
"fabio_cc",
"garfield",
"gigirock",
"gigirock_",
"iacopo",
"jester-",
"krabador",
"onepbl",
"pazzodaerroridin",
"piro",
"piro80",
"toshiba_",
"ubot-it",
"vadyme",
"vrop"
],
"url": "https://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2015/04/07/%23ubuntu-it.txt",
"channel": "#ubuntu-it"
}
|
2015-04-07-#ubuntu-meeting-2
|
[16:32] * dsmythies realizes that we changed from standard time to daylight savings time last month, and so the doc team meeting is not for another hour.
[17:31] <dsmythies> #startmeeting
[17:31] <meetingology> Meeting started Tue Apr 7 17:31:12 2015 UTC. The chair is dsmythies. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology.
[17:31] <meetingology> Available commands: action commands idea info link nick
[17:31] <dsmythies> #chair dsmythies GunnarHj
[17:31] <meetingology> Current chairs: GunnarHj dsmythies
[17:31] <dsmythies> Who is here for the doc team meeting?
[17:31] <bregma> o/
[17:32] <GunnarHj> o/
[17:32] <dsmythies> GunnarHJ: I made you a chair person
[17:32] <GunnarHj> dsmythies: Saw it. You are fast today. :)
[17:33] <dsmythies> we will wait a moment for ian
[17:34] <dsmythies> O.K. ian is here. let's start.
[17:35] <dsmythies> Just to report on some stuff rraom the last month: We did point releases of the 12.04 and 14.04 serverguides.
[17:35] <dsmythies> And Gunnar has been getting 15.04 desktop guide ready for release day.
[17:36] <GunnarHj> Except for the translations (due Thursday)
[17:37] <dsmythies> Anybody want to comment of any other activites from last month?
[17:37] <dsmythies> O.K. moving on...
[17:38] <dsmythies> from old actions, Hannie isn't here, so we'll leave that one. Gunnar, care to comment on desktop slidehsow?
[17:39] <GunnarHj> Not much to say. It will be done in vivid+.
[17:39] <dsmythies> ... just reading the bug report... Oh, ya. O.K.
[17:40] <dsmythies> other old actions done, so let's go to new business.
[17:41] <dsmythies> Desktop and Unity 8: I know nothing about setting up a new project. Nor do I have the capacity to take on such a project.
[17:42] <bregma> I have an interest in contributing (and I cna probably set up a project) but I am not a writer
[17:42] <bregma> also, the Unity 8 desktop will be in flux for the next several months
[17:43] <bregma> but I would like to see a start on the guide (or equivalent) earlier rather than later
[17:43] <GunnarHj> bregma: What does "in flux" mean?
[17:43] <dsmythies> before we go into a new project, should we access if there is enought interest from people willing to contribute?
[17:43] <bregma> I do not believe the final appearance (or event functionality) is fully decided yet
[17:44] <GunnarHj> ok.
[17:44] <dsmythies> assess instead access
[17:44] <GunnarHj> As I mentioned on list, my main concern is the seemingly lack of contributors in the team.
[17:45] <dsmythies> Agree.
[17:45] <bregma> I think there are some people in Canonical's Desktop team who can be tasked with making some contributions, but none of them are writers
[17:46] <bregma> I do believe there is buy-in there, though
[17:46] <dsmythies> bregma: Please know that I am not a writer either. I just seem to have stumbled into this roll.
[17:47] <bregma> OK
[17:47] <GunnarHj> bregma: If you look at the desktop branch, you can see that the number of contributors lately is *very* limited. It's kind of a crisis.
[17:48] <bregma> I don't really want to see a new desktop environment rolled out without some sort of guide, so my question is: how can we drum up enough contribution interest from the community?
[17:48] <dsmythies> We have fought with that question for years.
[17:48] <bregma> indeed
[17:49] <GunnarHj> Possibly the fact that it is a new desktop env. will make a difference - but I'm not sure.
[17:49] <bregma> the fact that the desktop has been fairly unchanged for several years means there hasn't been a lot for contributors to do
[17:50] <bregma> perhaps getting Canonical's community team to help drum up interest through their usual social media stuff would be a good start?
[17:50] <GunnarHj> When Unity 7 was new, Jeremy Bicha did an amazing amount of work. But wasn't he a Canonical emploee at the time?
[17:51] <dsmythies> O.K. Sounds like a significant project. It will need a champion.
[17:52] <dsmythies> bregma: you willing to take the lead?
[17:52] <bregma> I am willing to volunteer, but I have no idea about any doc development workflow, so I would need guidance with that
[17:53] <dsmythies> We have spent significant time of recent getting our wiki pages up to date.
[17:53] <GunnarHj> bregma: We can certainly help with the workflow part. It would be great if you could announce the need on the list as a starter.
[17:54] <bregma> sure, sounds good
[17:55] <dsmythies> for doc workflow, suggest the you start by learning how to work within the exisiting desktop help enviroment.
[17:56] <dsmythies> what is the timeline for this unity 8?
[17:56] <bregma> actually, I'm familiar with that, as far as building docs in various formats locally and getting changes in, but the rest is only a vague handwaving thing in my mind
[17:56] <GunnarHj> bregma: Is the plan to create a totally separate set of docs for Unity 8?
[17:57] <GunnarHj> bregma: Should it be distributed as a package, or only on the web?
[17:57] <bregma> I would go for a totally separate doc, yes, since for at least a while you can have either or both installed on your system at the same time
[17:57] <bregma> and the timeline for replacing Unity 7 with Unity 8 is not yet clear
[17:58] <GunnarHj> Ok, that speaks for basically creating a skeleton branch based on the ubuntu-docs branch.
[17:58] <pmatulis> hi guys
[17:58] <dsmythies> Oh, so eventually the current dektop help will not continue.
[17:58] <bregma> yeah, that was my first thought
[17:59] <dsmythies> pmatulis: Hi. we are on Unity 8 stuff.
[17:59] <pmatulis> ok, sorry for being late
[17:59] <bregma> yes, eventually I expect Unity 7 will not be included in newer versions of Ubuntu, so neither will the docs
[17:59] <dsmythies> GunnarHj: Sound like the new stuff will need to be a package.
[18:00] <bregma> is that how the Unity 7 docs get installed today, as a package?
[18:00] <GunnarHj> bregma: Yes.
[18:00] <GunnarHj> bregma: (and on the web)
[18:01] <bregma> then separate guides in separate packages is the easiest approach, and something I know how to do
[18:02] <GunnarHj> bregma: For Unity 7 we are using Mallard.
[18:03] <dsmythies> bregma: can I set action for you to drum up interest and detail some sort of project plan? The timeline is future sometime T.B.D.
[18:04] <bregma> dsmythies, yes please, I will take repsonsibility and the timeline will be to target an initial version for release in 15.10
[18:05] <dsmythies> #action bregma to stimulate interest in unity 8 dektop help guide.
[18:05] <meetingology> ACTION: bregma to stimulate interest in unity 8 dektop help guide.
[18:05] <dsmythies> #action bregma to create project plan for unity 8 dektop help guide.
[18:05] <meetingology> ACTION: bregma to create project plan for unity 8 dektop help guide.
[18:06] <dsmythies> bregma: I think you will find an initial target of 15.10 aggressive.
[18:06] <imnichol> bregma, I'm not incredibly knowledgeable about this process, but if you need help with anything I'd be willing to assist.
[18:07] <bregma> thanks
[18:08] <dsmythies> are we done with unity 8 discussion?
[18:08] <GunnarHj> Think so.
[18:10] <dsmythies> I will try to have 15.04 preliminary help.ubuntu.com content by early next week. I always like to do preliminaty first, so as to identify surprises, so that release day is smooth.
[18:10] * bregma nods
[18:11] <GunnarHj> dsmythies: Is "10.10" in the agenda a typo?
[18:12] <dsmythies> No. 10.10 EOL (Serverguide) is end of April.
[18:12] <dsmythies> the plan is to move to it once 15.04 final is done.
[18:12] <dsmythies> Oh. I mean 10.04
[18:13] <GunnarHj> dsmythies: Thought so. ;)
[18:14] <dsmythies> I'll fix agenda later.
[18:14] <dsmythies> pmatulis: I mentioned the point releases of serverguide earlier.
[18:15] <dsmythies> Anything from serverguide or manual or wiki?
[18:16] <GunnarHj> Let's move to the meeting time.
[18:17] <dsmythies> pmatulis: Does the change to daylight savings time affect your preferred meeting time?
[18:17] <pmatulis> dsmythies: hi
[18:17] <pmatulis> dsmythies: in a meeting :) . playing hooky here
[18:18] <pmatulis> dsmythies: so if it is 30 min earlier *now* i will be good
[18:18] <pmatulis> dsmythies: but yeah, in the winter i would be 1 hour behind
[18:18] <pmatulis> dsmythies: so i guess that mean 90 minutes earlier
[18:19] <pmatulis> dsmythies: or did i get that backwards? :)
[18:20] <dsmythies> O.K. I am confused. so are you saying 17:00 would be bteer for you? or are you saying 16:00 would be better for you? Do others have input?
[18:20] <GunnarHj> I'm flexible.
[18:20] <dsmythies> I'm flexible.
[18:21] <pmatulis> dsmythies: 16:00
[18:21] <dsmythies> O.K. that is 8:00 a.m. my time, which is fine.
[18:22] <dsmythies> and in winter that would be 7:00 a.m. my time, which is still fine.
[18:24] <pmatulis> alright, action me to change the wiki?
[18:24] <dsmythies> I believe pleia2 is also on the west coast of North America, and 7 might be a little early for her.
[18:24] <dsmythies> O.K. ;ets try it.
[18:24] <dsmythies> O.K. lets try it.
[18:25] <dsmythies> #action pmatulis: adjust wiki and banner meeting times.
[18:25] <meetingology> ACTION: pmatulis: adjust wiki and banner meeting times.
[18:26] <dsmythies> O.K. anything else anybody?
[18:27] <pleia2> I am west coast, but I struggle to attend these meetings anyway, so please do whatever works for all of you
[18:27] <GunnarHj> I don't have anything else. (Already in another IRC meeting.)
[18:27] <dsmythies> pleia2: O.K. thanks for chiming in.
[18:28] <dsmythies> O.K> I'll end the meeting.
[18:28] <dsmythies> #endmeeting
[18:28] <meetingology> Meeting ended Tue Apr 7 18:28:36 2015 UTC.
[18:28] <meetingology> Minutes: http://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/ubuntu-meeting-2/2015/ubuntu-meeting-2.2015-04-07-17.31.moin.txt
|
ubuntu-chat
|
2024-05-13T22:11:15.676733
| 2015-04-07T00:00:00 |
{
"license": "Public Domain",
"authors": [
"GunnarHj",
"bregma",
"dsmythies",
"imnichol",
"meetingology",
"pleia2",
"pmatulis"
],
"url": "https://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2015/04/07/%23ubuntu-meeting-2.txt",
"channel": "#ubuntu-meeting-2"
}
|
2015-04-07-#ubuntu-es
|
[10:01] <successus> salud o/
[17:48] <Drakenex> Ya estoy aqui :D
[18:17] <successus> salud
[19:01] <Drakenex> salud successus
[19:23] <successus> gracias Drakenex
[21:20] <Drakenex> Que distro es mejor que ubuntu ?
|
ubuntu-chat
|
2024-05-13T22:11:15.680615
| 2015-04-07T00:00:00 |
{
"license": "Public Domain",
"authors": [
"Drakenex",
"successus"
],
"url": "https://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2015/04/07/%23ubuntu-es.txt",
"channel": "#ubuntu-es"
}
|
2015-04-07-#juju
|
[00:33] <skay> I'm having trouble adding back a relation with python-django and postgresql
[00:33] <skay> http://paste.ubuntu.com/10755947/
[01:31] <thumper> marcoceppi_, lazyPower: one of you around?
[01:32] <thumper> I was doing something last night that seemed to be way too hard for what I was trying to do
[01:32] <thumper> and I'm wondering if it really is that hard, or whether I should look to push some changes
[01:32] <thumper> I have a running postgresql unit and was wanting to download the daily db dump to my local machine
[01:33] <thumper> the db dump has permissions 0600 and owned by the postgresql user
[01:33] <thumper> and in /var/lib/postgresql/backups by default
[01:34] <thumper> in order to scp it locally, I first had to log in to the machine and copy it (wanting to leave the original untouched) to the home dir and chown (or chmod) it
[01:34] <thumper> is there an easier way, or should we defer this until we have an action?
[01:34] <thumper> we could have an action that is 'get me the latest db dump' right?
[01:35] <thumper> jw4: ^^ re action?
[01:50] <rick_h_> thumper: yea, you could do an action, though honestly I'd suggest the action is more 'put this in some public space' like an s3 bucket or the like
[01:52] <rick_h_> thumper: the other way to go would be a subordinate to do something like inotify and auto copy the db to a known location for you so you can pull it down and auto do it every time a backup is made
[01:53] <rick_h_> thumper: and then you could do stuff like longer term config in the service like s3 credentials/account and such as well which would be interesting since actions don't have persistent 'remember me' settings really
[01:53] <thumper> rick_h_: so the current answer is "no, it is kinda icky" ?
[01:53] <rick_h_> thumper: yep
[01:54] <rick_h_> thumper: in prodstack they have a convention of where to stick backups and then you ping them and they add it to a script that walks services copying dumps for you basically
[01:54] <rick_h_> thumper: just over ssh/scp
[01:54] <rick_h_> thumper: so even in our production it's icky
[01:54] * thumper sighs
[01:54] * thumper adds a TODO note to work out how to make this less icky
[01:54] <thumper> on the plus side...
[01:54] <rick_h_> thumper: storage + actions? :)
[01:55] <thumper> I managed to grab a backup (dump) of my prod database, and load it into my dev environment running in an lxc container
[01:55] <thumper> so I can test my charm upgrade with the prod data
[01:55] <rick_h_> nice
[01:55] <rick_h_> now you just need a restore action that takes the dump and auto loads it for you :P
[01:55] <thumper> had to play around with 'pg_restore' a bit, but it was ok
[01:56] <thumper> yep, that too would be nice
[07:46] <stub> thumper: We have been using subordinate charms to shuffle the files to their final locations, so it hasn't bitten us. For a charm, making dump world readable so 'juju scp' works would be fine from a security POV.
[07:46] <stub> rsync subordinate, stuff-into-swift subordinate, and now the new backup system.
[09:11] <arosales> marcoceppi_, if you have an opportunity could you kick a test off on https://code.launchpad.net/~cbjchen/charms/trusty/ubuntu/lxc-network-config/+merge/255262
[11:03] <schkovich> where can i find docs on which ports need to be open to access juju state server?
[11:04] <schkovich> lets say that my state server is running on machine 0
[11:04] <schkovich> if i enable ufw on that machine and allow ssh juju ssh 0 fails
[11:05] <schkovich> while i can still have standard ssh access eg ssh -i .ssh/mykey publiciip.of.machine.0
[11:26] <lazyPower> schkovich: i dont think those ports are documented - but thats a really good question
[11:26] <lazyPower> let me poke a core dev and see if i cant run that down for you
[11:29] <lazyPower> schkovich: it appears all you need to have open is 17070 and 22
[11:41] <luqas> freyes: hi, you there?
[12:12] <schkovich> lazyPower: thanks, let me try it :)
[12:15] <schkovich> lazyPower: tcp and udp?
[12:15] <lazyPower> i do beleive its just TCP
[12:15] <lazyPower> but it wont hurt to unblock both protos
[12:31] <schkovich> lazyPower: opening 17070 for tcp only did the trick. thanks!
[12:31] <lazyPower> Cheers :)
[17:31] <freyes> luqas, pong
[17:32] <luqas> freyes: hi, I was having a look to https://bugs.launchpad.net/juju-deployer/+bug/1383336
[17:32] <mup> Bug #1383336: TypeError "takes exactly 2 arguments (4 given)" raised while deploying <cts> <juju-deployer:Fix Released by freyes> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1383336>
[17:32] <luqas> and I changed the status by mistake
[17:36] <freyes> luqas, oh, got it, I'll change it back to 'fix committed'
[17:36] <luqas> cool freyes, thanks a lot and sorry for the trouble
[17:37] <luqas> btw, do you know in which version of juju-deployer has the fix been committed?
[21:25] <jrwren> a freshly bootstrapped environment, and I get: juju.rpc server.go:328 error closing code EOF when I deploy: http://paste.ubuntu.com/10766678/ any recommendations?
[21:27] <jrwren> bah nevermind trying again works. I'll bet it was typical azure.
[21:29] <rick_h_> jrwren: yea, bac got that yesterday
[21:29] <rick_h_> or maybe it was friday when a deploy failed for hime from the charmstore
[21:30] <bac> yeah, that went away. never figured it out.
|
ubuntu-chat
|
2024-05-13T22:11:15.690884
| 2015-04-07T00:00:00 |
{
"license": "Public Domain",
"authors": [
"arosales",
"bac",
"freyes",
"jrwren",
"lazyPower",
"luqas",
"mup",
"rick_h_",
"schkovich",
"skay",
"stub",
"thumper"
],
"url": "https://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2015/04/07/%23juju.txt",
"channel": "#juju"
}
|
2015-04-07-#xubuntu
|
[00:56] <CountryfiedLinux> How do I turn off lid close settings on my laptop? I want to close it turning off my screen?
[02:29] <xubuntu34w> Ok, Guess I'm here.. First time here. Have Dell Latitude D6xx older laptop. Want to buy Xubuntu cd from somewhere. this machine would be used for music and online movies 99% of the time. I don't know any of the commands in unix/linux Xubuntu etc..... Can Xubuntu show movies. Any idea where I can get tutorials online. would like to read tutorials on other laptop while Xubuntu is on this one after I install it. This computer has no
[02:30] <xubuntu34w> burn a a cd
[02:30] <StanDarsh> Yeah it can totally do that bud.
[02:30] <xubuntu34w> cool
[02:31] <ObrienDave> d/l the ISO for free. no need to buy
[02:31] <TimeVirus> and what movies are you wanting to watch?
[02:31] <TimeVirus> DVDs?
[02:32] <TimeVirus> streaming?
[02:32] <TimeVirus> youtube?
[02:32] <xubuntu34w> Hey, this is a windows xp system. if download iso, don't know how to go about making it run.
[02:32] <StanDarsh> Burning to a CD is probably easiest.
[02:32] <StanDarsh> or DVD rather.
[02:32] <TimeVirus> but then thats streaming too yes but my streaming I meant Netflix or something like that
[02:32] <ObrienDave> burn ISO to DVD, boot DVD and try
[02:33] <Unit193> Or, USB.
[02:33] <ObrienDave> install if you like it
[02:33] <xubuntu34w> youtube and other free site type movies. and i guess tutuorials are at youtube
[02:33] <xubuntu34w> i ha netflix
[02:33] <TimeVirus> free can be done a few ways
[02:34] <xubuntu34w> free ..... keep talking ... am listinening
[02:34] <TimeVirus> for netflix you can install Google Chrome and with Ubuntu it will work no problem
[02:34] <ObrienDave> free OS, free software. does not get any better
[02:35] <TimeVirus> I use a program called smplayer and smtube for watching youtube as I dont like to fire up a browser for that
[02:36] <TimeVirus> installing Linux is easy peasy
[02:36] <xubuntu34w> thanks, these programs ie... smplayer are downloadable after i get Xubuntu running on this laptop
[02:36] <ObrienDave> yes
[02:36] <TimeVirus> all you need to do is go to the homepage and read about how to do it
[02:36] <TimeVirus> really is easy
[02:37] <ObrienDave> it will take a little learning on your part. once you get the hang of it, it's very easy
[02:37] <TimeVirus> installing Xubuntu that is all the rest CAN be even easier
[02:37] <xubuntu34w> look i have been searching how to download Xubuntu online and get it going that way. because i have no ce or flash drive capability
[02:38] <StanDarsh> Well, to play music and online music it's gonna be perfect. Use a DVD dude, USB is easy too but a bit more involved.
[02:38] <TimeVirus> no cd drive?
[02:38] <xubuntu34w> homepate... ? Xubuntu homepage.... to find out how to install online. is this correct????
[02:38] <TimeVirus> Ubuntu
[02:38] <ObrienDave> you'll have to use someone elses computer to do the burning
[02:39] <ObrienDave> you can't from XP
[02:39] <xubuntu34w> understood. i might as well just buy the cd from some place if it's not possible to download and install it online.
[02:39] <xubuntu34w> i can't burn a cd
[02:39] <xubuntu34w> can't put a flashdrive in this laptop
[02:40] <StanDarsh> Yikes
[02:40] <StanDarsh> Locked down pretty good eh?
[02:40] <ObrienDave> no USB ports?
[02:40] <xubuntu34w> old computer. runninjg window xp sp3
[02:41] <xubuntu34w> the only usb port i inoperative
[02:41] <StanDarsh> Tighttt
[02:41] <xubuntu34w> cls
[02:41] <TimeVirus> yours is NOT as old as mine for I own a D420 and it is running Xubuntu very nicely indeed
[02:41] <ObrienDave> go buy a cheap USB add-in card
[02:41] <TimeVirus> lol
[02:42] <ObrienDave> oh, laptop. dang
[02:42] <TimeVirus> that Dell has a pcmcia slot yes?
[02:43] <StanDarsh> Can I run fluxbox-type window decorations from withing xfce?
[02:43] <StanDarsh> I always find the title bars use too many pixels by default.
[02:43] <xubuntu34w> ok, so got accomplished . where to get tutorials (youtube). consider buying a usb add-in card. homepage for any questions i gots about Xubuntu and for support. am i missing anything. ohhh yea, download chrome for movies and music. miss anything???
[02:44] <xubuntu34w> yes, has pcm slot
[02:44] <ObrienDave> you did say laptop, yes?
[02:44] <xubuntu34w> yes...
[02:44] <ObrienDave> forget the add-in card. find one that works off of the pcmcia slot
[02:45] <TimeVirus> yes
[02:45] <xubuntu34w> i see, thanks , am cooking,,,, got ta go.. thanks everyone
[02:45] <TimeVirus> there are pcmcia cards that can give you usb2 or even 3
[02:45] <StanDarsh> cya bud
[02:46] <ObrienDave> http://www.frys.com/product/4562347?site=sr:SEARCH:MAIN_RSLT_PG
[02:46] <xubuntu34w> thanks for the link
[02:46] <StanDarsh> Haven't seen one of those for a long time.
[02:46] <StanDarsh> haha
[02:46] <ObrienDave> just for an example. you're welcome
[02:47] <StanDarsh> So, dudes. Anyone have an internet radio app they like?
[02:47] <TimeVirus> I LOVE my old Dell :)
[02:47] <TimeVirus> lol
[02:48] <TimeVirus> still ticking after 8+ years
[02:48] <TimeVirus> a bit tight on RAM but is good to go with Xubuntu and others
[02:49] <StanDarsh> RAM-limited machines were how I came to love Linux in general.
[02:49] <ObrienDave> not really radio, but i like pithos for pandora client
[02:49] <TimeVirus> and comm ports bespeckle it rather nicely
[02:49] <StanDarsh> Reviving old PCs.
[02:49] <TimeVirus> yeah
[02:50] <TimeVirus> this dude even has IR lol
[02:50] <TimeVirus> not very useful but fun
[02:50] <StanDarsh> I am NOT into the default music player that comes with Xubuntu.
[02:50] <TimeVirus> smplayer for me
[02:51] <StanDarsh> I wish I could have something like foobar2000
[02:51] <StanDarsh> But with radio functionality.
[04:01] <DazPetty> hey can anyone help me with my ftp server?
[04:02] <holstein> DazPetty: you'll have to ask, and see if a volunteer can assist.. you can use #ubuntu as well, since its not related to xubuntu or xfce
[04:02] <holstein> !ftp
[04:03] <DazPetty> ok holstein
[06:43] <hrzhu> Does anyone have probem with ejecting usb hdd in Xubuntu? Can you have a look at this https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/thunar/+bug/1434766 and confirm it
[08:36] <KNF> How to change default terminal when I click ctrl+alt+t ?
[08:50] <xubuntu10w> Hello, I have a problem setting up extended display over 2 external moniters (laptop is in dock)
[12:31] <knob> Good morning all! o/
[15:51] <drc> From http://xfce.org/about/tour (of xfce 4.14 which is now in Xubuntu 15.04B2)) "The [Parole] media controls are now contained in a slide-over overlay (with a configurable timeout).". Can't find the config for this feature anywhere in Parole. Someone care to enlighten me?
[15:52] <drc> s/4.14/4.12/
[15:54] * drc would be perfectly happy to be show the blantently obvious config that he looked at a dozen times and just never saw :)
[15:57] <ochosi> drc: it's a hidden setting
[15:57] <ochosi> hide-controls-timeout
[15:57] <ochosi> i guess we should really document that one
[15:58] <drc> Yeah, hiding something and then touting it on the webpage is counterproductive :)
[15:59] <drc> Thanks
[16:01] <ochosi> drc: oh well, either you overlooked it or i just added it a few seconds ago: http://docs.xfce.org/apps/parole/preferences#hidden_settings
[16:02] <drc> Must be these old eyes....
[16:25] <xubuntu35w> ochosi: (drc here). This "hidden" setting is one that must be manually added correct? I don't see it listed (but I am using today's daily on a USB).
[16:25] <ochosi> yes
[16:25] <ochosi> you have to create the key (integer)
[16:29] <xubuntu35w> ochosi: Property = hide-controls-timeout, Type=Int, Value = 3 Will not let me add this (Live USB related?)
[16:30] <xubuntu35w> ochosi: wait, I think I see my mistake.
[16:31] <xubuntu35w> nope...I was wronog about being wrong :)
[17:57] <ochosi> drc: so wait, you got me confused there, it worked fine..?
[17:59] <drc> Sorry about that :)
[18:00] <ochosi> as long as everything is fine and works as expected, it's fine ;)
[18:00] <drc> Yes, I figured it out...not intuitive (you have to place a "/" at the start of the property).
[18:01] <drc> Figured it out from looking at the others there. Never did figure out how to make an "empty" one (like audio/volume)
[18:02] <drc> But who really cares, it works fine :)
[18:03] <drc> Now...to figure out how to make the menu not come back after hiding it and then max'ing the window and back :)
[18:03] <ochosi> the menu of parole you mean?
[18:04] <drc> yup
[18:04] <ochosi> the hiding of the menubar is not remembered for longer than one session
[18:04] <ochosi> we considered it, and i was considering adding another hidden option for it
[18:04] <ochosi> we didn't want users to be stranded without menubar if they screw up once
[18:05] <drc> Even one session would be nice, but my experience is that hiding the menu, maxing (F11) the screen and then back to "normal" size makes the menu come back.
[18:06] <drc> But I do understand the caution
[18:06] <ochosi> hm, never noticed, lemme try that
[18:07] <ochosi> true, that's a bit of a bummer
[18:07] <ochosi> i guess i could really add a persistent hidden option
[18:07] <drc> yup :) That and the timeout were the only things keeping me from not installing smplayer/vlc (don't really need all the abilities of them)
[18:08] <drc> BTW, Parole has gotten much, much better recently :)
[18:09] <ochosi> thanks, that's nice to hear
[18:09] <ochosi> we still have a few things i'd like to improve
[18:09] <ochosi> the plugin installer sucks
[18:10] <drc> There's always room for improvement...but just adding things is not always improvement.
[18:10] <ochosi> yeah, but the plugin installer is already there
[18:11] <drc> Oh, that was a general comment typed (bit not returned) before your plugin comment.
[18:11] <ochosi> oh
[18:11] <ochosi> agreed in that case
[18:41] <ochosi> drc: k, so i added that persistent option, wasn't very hard...
[18:43] <drc> It'll come thru the next update?
[18:44] <ochosi> well so far i haven't pushed the code yet
[18:44] <ochosi> i'm not 100% sure what should happen in some cases
[18:45] <ochosi> i guess while i'm at it i should also fix the menubar showing up again after fullscreen
[18:45] <drc> Would be nice :0
[18:49] <drc> It's one of those little annoyances that magnifies itself all out of proportion over time.
[19:00] <ibouvousaime> hello guys I'm trying to use a nvidia card with blender but blender doesnt seem to see it I get his log when I'm trying to see if the gpu is active http://ur1.ca/k4jsr my driver info is http://ur1.ca/k4jto I already have the nvidia seting manager installed and have libcuda1-346 installed
[19:01] <ibouvousaime> more info http://ur1.ca/k4jxn
[19:04] <ochosi> ibouvousaime: this seems to be a question for the blender folks
[19:04] <ibouvousaime> it think its mora driver problem
[19:04] <ibouvousaime> more*
[19:05] <knome> ibouvousaime, if it's a driver problem and you are using the proprietary driver, then you need to contact nvidia
[19:07] <ibouvousaime> every thing was ok when I had manjaro I wonder what I'm missing
[19:09] <ochosi> probably different driver/driver-version
[19:09] <elfy> try reinstalling from additional drivers
[19:09] <ochosi> drc: http://git.xfce.org/apps/parole/commit/?id=770d977315b2d326dff9a96fd8bb65b9d5093939 (will be released with parole 0.8.1)
[19:11] <drc> Sounds good to me...thanks for the work.
[19:15] <drc> Parole 0.8.1 to be released about Xubuntu 15.10 time frame?
[19:20] <ochosi> i guess
[19:21] <xangua> just use vlc
[19:21] <drc> don't wanna :)
[19:21] <knome> xangua, or... use parole and report bugs so it can be improved.
[19:21] <drc> besides, I'd use smpplayer.
[19:22] <xangua> knome: last time I uses parole couldn't play half DVD's that play OK on VLC and Totem
[19:22] <xangua> only made it until the menu screen, selected play the movie and that's all
[19:23] <knome> xangua, i didn't say complaining helps us improve it.
[19:23] <xangua> wasn't a complain, it was a comentary
[19:24] <xangua> I also like it and it looks cool
[21:08] <gary-ruseman> Is Xubuntu available for ARM? I don't see a release
[21:08] <gary-ruseman> but I think I saw on /g/ that someone had one
[21:09] <knome> there is no official port.
[21:11] <gary-ruseman> K, that sucks, thanks
[21:15] <knome> gary-ruseman, until you acknowledge how much time it would take to support an official port, i wouldn't say it sucks.
[21:15] <knome> gary-ruseman, you can probably get xubuntuish system installed to an ARM device by installing ubuntu for ARM, then installing the xubuntu-desktop metapackage
[21:19] <elfy> I did a couple of years ago with armfh or something like that
[21:21] <knome> they are gone.
[21:21] <elfy> always the way ...
[22:20] <CountryfiedLinux> howdy
[23:23] <WolfyJoe> H
[23:23] <WolfyJoe> Hi
[23:23] <WolfyJoe> I run Xubuntu 14.04 LTS an I have a fliphone from tracphone
[23:24] <WolfyJoe> I am going to purchase an andriod phone and I was told bitpim could help me get the files from my LG440g
[23:24] <WolfyJoe> Can someone help me with this?
|
ubuntu-chat
|
2024-05-13T22:11:15.701692
| 2015-04-07T00:00:00 |
{
"license": "Public Domain",
"authors": [
"CountryfiedLinux",
"DazPetty",
"KNF",
"ObrienDave",
"StanDarsh",
"TimeVirus",
"Unit193",
"WolfyJoe",
"drc",
"elfy",
"gary-ruseman",
"holstein",
"hrzhu",
"ibouvousaime",
"knob",
"knome",
"ochosi",
"xangua",
"xubuntu10w",
"xubuntu34w",
"xubuntu35w"
],
"url": "https://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2015/04/07/%23xubuntu.txt",
"channel": "#xubuntu"
}
|
2015-04-07-#ubuntu-uk
|
[01:57] <x85> hi
[01:59] <diddledan> ello
[02:55] <mapps> hi a
[02:55] <mapps> :D
[02:55] <mapps> hey diddledan
[07:24] <MooDoo> morning all
[07:37] <SuperMatt> morning MooDoo
[08:56] <bashrc_> morning
[09:01] <JamesTait> Good morning all; happy Tuesday, and happy World Health Day! :-D
[09:07] * zmoylan-pi *coughs*
[09:08] * JamesTait hands zmoylan-pi a pineapple.
[09:09] * zmoylan-pi puts pineapple were the sun doesn't shine...
[09:09] <davmor2> JamesTait: how can they have that after all that chocolate
[09:09] <zmoylan-pi> to make people feel guilty :-)
[09:10] <JamesTait> Which came first, World Health Day or the Easter Egg? :-P
[09:10] <zmoylan-pi> the easter egg, it predates christianity :-)
[09:11] <davmor2> JamesTait: the Egg
[09:12] <MartijnVdS> The Egg!
[09:12] <MartijnVdS> http://www.galactanet.com/oneoff/theegg_mod.html
[09:12] <MooDoo> egggggggggs
[09:13] * JamesTait is disappointed that nobody bought him an Easter egg.
[09:13] <davmor2> JamesTait: I did but eat it on the way sorry
[09:13] <zmoylan-pi> would you want an easter egg sent by random internet stranger? :-)
[09:14] <davmor2> JamesTait: it's the thought that counts though right
[09:14] <MartijnVdS> JamesTait: maybe we did buy you one, you just didn't find it yet!
[09:14] <JamesTait> MartijnVdS, you mean I have an Easter egg hunt?
[09:14] <JamesTait> \o/
[09:15] <zmoylan-pi> list for the ticking easter egg...
[09:15] <zmoylan-pi> *listen
[09:15] <MartijnVdS> JamesTait: eggsac-tly
[09:15] <JamesTait> zmoylan-pi, what could possibly go wrong?
[09:15] <MartijnVdS> zmoylan-pi: it's the bomb?
[09:15] <davmor2> JamesTait: yes the clue is, it's in the shop down the road with a price tag on it
[09:15] <davmor2> JamesTait: now go find it
[09:16] <zmoylan-pi> the clue is to look for the sign 'clearance sale'
[09:16] <JamesTait> davmor2, hopefully a much smaller price tag than last week, what with the main event being over and done with.
[09:16] <JamesTait> Great minds, zmoylan-pi. ;)
[09:16] <davmor2> JamesTait: indeed
[09:16] <brobostigon> morning boys and girls.
[09:17] <JamesTait> brobostigon, o/
[09:17] <zmoylan-pi> see also '3 for #5'
[09:18] <brobostigon> morning JamesTait
[11:48] <mapps> hm better call soul is so overrated
[11:56] <davmor2> MooDoo: I think that is enough chocolate for you
[11:59] <popey> mapps: i disagree :)
[11:59] <MooDoo> davmor2: awwww spoil sport
[11:59] <popey> i have 2 episodes to watch actually, thanks for the reminder!
[12:00] <zmoylan-pi> now you'll find them better as they've been downplayed...
[12:00] <davmor2> MooDoo: if you can add that many g's to eggs you have had too many ;)
[12:00] <MooDoo> lol
[12:07] <Myrtti> immediately my hat has proven its usefulness
[12:07] <Myrtti> apparently the sun is blessing my part of UK with 8/red UV index
[12:07] <davmor2> Myrtti: it electrocuted the thief that tried to steal it?
[12:08] <mrwheels> nick x85
[12:08] <Myrtti> well no, I just got an immediate reminder to apply my SPF50 on
[12:08] <x85> hi
[12:08] <davmor2> Myrtti: hahaha
[12:08] <Myrtti> which is exactly why I needed the hat
[12:08] <davmor2> Myrtti: nice
[12:09] <Myrtti> and the red RGB led is dead useful too
[12:09] <davmor2> Myrtti: this is the crocheted one with the adafruit board that you showed right, just checking we are on the same page
[12:09] <x85> hows everybodeh
[12:10] <davmor2> x85: relaxed
[12:10] <Myrtti> davmor2: yes, finished the code yesterday
[12:10] <davmor2> Myrtti: nice
[12:10] <Myrtti> https://bitbucket.org/myrtti/adafruit-uv-hat
[12:10] <x85> davmor2, cool
[12:10] <Myrtti> readme needs more instructions but I'll get to that right after I've planted the tomatoes and beans
[12:11] * zmoylan-pi wonders what the error messges is in the event of an atomic disaster...
[12:11] <davmor2> zmoylan-pi: very cloudy
[12:11] * x85 has been wondering is it possible to wipe OS X from the system and use ubuntu
[12:11] <davmor2> zmoylan-pi: high hot winds
[12:12] <zmoylan-pi> ...with a chance of mutants...
[12:12] <davmor2> zmoylan-pi: eventual vapourization
[12:12] * popey has closed the blind
[12:12] <popey> ETOOMUCHSUN
[12:13] <x85> :)
[12:14] <davmor2> zmoylan-pi: that or go bright red and have the piezo speaker scream and a plug it in to the message Nuclear Factor 1000 block required
[12:15] <Myrtti> I had that when we were in London for 9.04 release party
[12:15] <Myrtti> davmor2: it already goes bright red in this sun
[12:15] <Myrtti> so you'd have to think of something else
[12:15] <x85> i know i can but it requires the refind boot loader
[12:16] <Myrtti> https://bitbucket.org/myrtti/adafruit-uv-hat/src/b0fc89bc4944e6023f1035432717587bdd13c9a4/flora_uv_neopixel.ino?at=master#cl-207
[12:16] <x85> i don't really want to mod the boot loader if i have to
[12:21] <x85> ubuntu on the pi 2 works awesomely
[12:38] <Azelphur> Hmm, anyone smart with train tickets? Going from Margate, Kent to Hounslow for a hotel right outside Heathrow, then when I return I wanna go straight back to Margate, do I have to get two separate tickets for that or can I do it on a return?
[12:40] <MartijnVdS> Azelphur: margate eh? :) I'm staying there for a night next month :)
[12:40] <Azelphur> MartijnVdS: really? I live here. Maybe I'll say hello :)
[12:42] <MartijnVdS> Azelphur: yeah, going to Dunkirk -> Dover (sleep in Margate), then driving around the south a bit
[12:42] <Azelphur> cool
[12:43] <davmor2> x85: you can just install it on most apple macs it will just overwrite what is there, unless you create free space. I think refind is only needed if you want to daul boot
[12:43] <Azelphur> yea, where ever you are you'll be within walking distance of me
[12:44] <Azelphur> MartijnVdS: what ya doing here, having a holiday?
[12:44] <MartijnVdS> Azelphur: yeah
[12:44] <MartijnVdS> filling up my camera's SD card ;)
[12:44] <Azelphur> cool :)
[12:45] <Azelphur> MartijnVdS: if you're into old British buildings and stuff, you'll want to hit up Sandwich
[12:45] <MartijnVdS> *opens google maps*
[12:45] <Azelphur> and Broadstairs is kinda cool too, it's where Charles Dickens used to live, so you can see bleak house and some other stuff
[12:46] <Azelphur> it's all relatively close by, if you're after sight seeing / camera fodder
[12:46] <MartijnVdS> I'll add it to my list of places to visit :)
[12:47] <Azelphur> and if you need any assistance / have questions or whatever, feel free to hit me up :)
[12:51] <MartijnVdS> ok! :)
[12:52] <Azelphur> MartijnVdS: amusingly my apartment is kinda camera fodder too, https://www.google.com/search?q=the+royal+seabathing+hospital+margate&safe=off&client=ubuntu&hs=7cp&channel=fs&gl=uk&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ei=FNMjVdz5Ho25aayugdAJ&ved=0CAgQ_AUoAg&biw=1707&bih=900
[12:54] <MartijnVdS> Azelphur: my hotel for the night is 5 minutes away, on the eastern esplanade
[12:54] <MartijnVdS> (also you live in a hospital?!)
[12:55] <zmoylan-pi> no warning bells there whatsoever... :-P
[12:55] <Azelphur> MartijnVdS: yea most of the hotels are up there, I walk up there all the time
[12:55] <Azelphur> MartijnVdS: haha, it's a former hospital, it was abandoned back in the 60s? I think and then converted into apartments about 10 years ago.
[12:56] <davmor2> popey: how long before your desktop pc looks like this http://www.totalgeekdom.com/?p=1725
[12:57] <zmoylan-pi> i would have thought by now that the mac mini size and shape would have been standardised on so that you could create a mini hifh shaped stack of external components to do what you want
[12:58] <MartijnVdS> zmoylan-pi: looks like Intel's nuc form factor is more like that
[12:58] <Azelphur> MartijnVdS: oh Margate also has a free art gallery, if you're into art
[12:58] <Azelphur> me and the gf found it really weird when we went though...it's all weird art :P
[12:58] <MartijnVdS> Azelphur: osm
[12:58] <MartijnVdS> isn't most art? :P
[12:58] <zmoylan-pi> but a lot of manufacturers assume you are going to dedicate a lot of deskspace to some weird oddly shaped device of theirs
[12:58] <Azelphur> osm?
[12:59] <MartijnVdS> Azelphur: typo
[12:59] <Azelphur> MartijnVdS: dunno, usually I figure art is like, paintings
[12:59] <MartijnVdS> also missed backspace and hit enter instead 8-)
[12:59] <Azelphur> not actors pretending to be dead on the floor
[12:59] <Azelphur> or photos of dudes wearing t-shirts with nipple holes cut out
[12:59] <davmor2> Azelphur: Traditionalist :P
[12:59] <Azelphur> lol
[12:59] <MartijnVdS> how do you know they were pretending
[13:06] <popey> davmor2: hah, that's great
[13:07] <davmor2> popey: gotta love looking at the news scope at lunch :)
[13:07] <popey> hah
[13:07] <davmor2> popey: it's in the tech section :)
[13:08] <davmor2> popey: the best of it is as soon as I saw it I thought popey would like that :)
[14:56] <x85> woo got ubuntu on my mac
[14:56] <x85> without any janky bootloader
[15:00] <x85> uh-oh firefox's browser text is micro
[15:43] <x85> uber happy now
[15:59] <mapps> yay
[15:59] <mapps> ;D
[16:03] <x85> now i only need to solve wifi issues
[16:03] <x85> woo
[16:03] <x85> :/
[16:04] <x85> its 7.04 all over again
[16:04] <x85> lollol
[16:07] <zmoylan-pi> if it was easy to install were would we get the sense of achievement?? :-)
[16:09] <x85> zmoylan-pi: lolol true
[16:11] <diddledan> I like sensitive achievement
[16:12] <diddledan> now can I get to the post office before 17:30 I wonder?
[16:12] <x85> just the wifi is driving me nuts
[16:12] <diddledan> methinks I'll have to leave it till tomorrow
[16:12] <diddledan> x85: broadcom?
[16:13] <x85> diddledan: yea
[16:13] <diddledan> x85: you prolly need the b43 firmware then
[16:13] <diddledan> there's a firmware cutter in the repo to extract it
[16:14] <diddledan> I forget what you need tho
[16:14] <x85> itd bcm 4360
[16:15] <diddledan> x85: sudo apt-get install firmware-b43-installer
[16:15] <x85> i installed the driver from the driver tool but it seems to drop out intermitantley
[16:15] <diddledan> oh you must have the firmware then if you're getting connection
[16:15] <diddledan> intermittance can be a pain to figure out
[16:16] <x85> i'll run that anyway to check
[16:17] <x85> it installed some stuffz
[16:17] <diddledan> hmm, the b43 page says it's unsupported
[16:17] <diddledan> http://www.linuxwireless.org/en/users/Drivers/b43
[16:18] <x85> brb gonna reboot
[17:46] <x85> font scaling still sucks blah
[17:46] <x85> in firefox
[18:36] <diddledan> this looks funky: https://www.scaleway.com/
[18:40] <diddledan> they have some serious density: https://www.scaleway.com/images/blade.png
[18:41] <diddledan> that's 18 individual computers in one 1u/half-depth case
[19:14] <diddledan> fun thread: http://community.spiceworks.com/topic/881219-24-subnets-a-security-risk?utm_campaign=digest&utm_medium=email&utm_source=digest&utme=groups+popular1
[19:14] <diddledan> eww @ evi lurl
[19:14] <diddledan> should I shorten that for you?
[19:16] <shauno> bit late now :/
[19:18] <x85> so i has mint on my macbook
[19:18] <x85> woo
[19:19] <x85> still buzzing about it
[20:36] <webpigeon> diddledan: heh
[21:15] <mappps> well thats odd
[21:50] <diddledan> oops
[21:50] <diddledan> dominos just raped me
[21:50] <diddledan> mappps: what's odd?
[22:06] <popey> diddledan: you can probably think of more appropriate verbs
[22:48] <daftykins> i seem to recall dominos was obscenely priced when i was living in England years ago
[22:49] <daftykins> never really went in for the pizza thing since at the time the idea of delivery pizza was alien
[22:50] <diddledan> daftykins: they still are :-p
[22:53] <shauno> but they let us order online, so :(
[22:53] <popey> they're cheaper if you collect
[22:53] <popey> much cheaper
[22:54] <shauno> I only get their two-fer deals. one for tonight, one for tomorrow
[22:54] <daftykins> ah 'leftovers' or reheating things is also alien to me :>
[22:55] <popey> reheated pizza ftw
[22:55] <popey> also cold pizza
[23:07] <directhex> if you pay full price for takeaway pizza you're doing it wrong
[23:08] <shauno> I'd say so! they're 20e each here. that's like .. a pint for 2 slices
[23:19] <daftykins> i've just thrown in a co-op 'meat feast' which is excellent value for money
[23:19] <daftykins> lovely and spicy, huge diameter thin crust for £3 \o/
[23:39] <daftykins> https://www.dropbox.com/s/bflpzuat2aakw5f/IMG_20150408_003419.jpg?dl=0
[23:39] <daftykins> mmm-mmm
|
ubuntu-chat
|
2024-05-13T22:11:15.724731
| 2015-04-07T00:00:00 |
{
"license": "Public Domain",
"authors": [
"Azelphur",
"JamesTait",
"MartijnVdS",
"MooDoo",
"Myrtti",
"SuperMatt",
"bashrc_",
"brobostigon",
"daftykins",
"davmor2",
"diddledan",
"directhex",
"mappps",
"mapps",
"mrwheels",
"popey",
"shauno",
"webpigeon",
"x85",
"zmoylan-pi"
],
"url": "https://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2015/04/07/%23ubuntu-uk.txt",
"channel": "#ubuntu-uk"
}
|
2015-04-07-#ubuntu-jp
|
[13:03] <hito_jp> こんばんは
[13:08] <hito_jp> とりあえず3号機は仮稼動状態にした……ぞ……（あと2号機と設計すらしてない1号機がある）
[13:08] <mizuno> こんばんは
[13:10] <hito_jp> ping > peers
[13:13] <hito_jp> とばして大丈夫なんだっけ……（疲弊
[13:21] <hito_jp> ねおちしそう
[13:21] <mizuno> たぶん……？
|
ubuntu-chat
|
2024-05-13T22:11:15.733567
| 2015-04-07T00:00:00 |
{
"license": "Public Domain",
"authors": [
"hito_jp",
"mizuno"
],
"url": "https://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2015/04/07/%23ubuntu-jp.txt",
"channel": "#ubuntu-jp"
}
|
2015-04-07-#ubuntu-de
|
[08:53] <stefanstefanstef> Moin Moin
[08:54] <stefanstefanstef> Ich sitze hier an einem Samsung Laptop und dieser verliert häufig die WLAN-Verbindung.
[08:54] <stefanstefanstef> Frage: In welcher /var/log finde ich hier drüber Informationen?
[08:55] <leszek> stefanstefanstef: normalerweise im syslog
[08:55] <leszek> stefanstefanstef: du kannst es auch mit dmesg direkt ausgeben lassen
[08:57] <stefanstefanstef> leszek: Könntest du bitte mal über die syslog-Datei drüber schauen? http://pastebin.com/qrRkYhRw
[08:57] <kubine> stefanstefanstef: Title: Apr 7 08:57:44 gisela rsyslogd: [origin software="rsyslogd" swVersion="7.4.4" x - Pastebin.com (at pastebin.com)
[08:59] <leszek> stefanstefanstef: hier liegt wohl der Hund begraben: wlan0: CTRL-EVENT-DISCONNECTED bssid=02:21:29:b0:b9:24 reason=7
[09:00] <stefanstefanstef> reason=7 was könnte das sein?
[09:00] <leszek> und laut : http://www.aboutcher.co.uk/2012/07/linux-wifi-deauthenticated-reason-codes/ bedeutet es, dass der Client was senden wollte bevor die verbindung bestand
[09:00] <kubine> leszek: Title: Linux WiFi Reason Codes - Disconnection & De-Authentication Issues (at www.aboutcher.co.uk)
[09:01] <leszek> stefanstefanstef: ich kenn den Fehler so nicht und kann nur vermuten, dass es evtl. am Wifi Treiber liegt
[09:03] <stefanstefanstef> Ist ein Qualcomm Atheros AR9285 Wireless Network Adapter (PCI-Express) (rev 01)
[09:03] <leszek> Der sollte einwandfrei unterstützt werden. Ich habe gerade diesen Thread hier gefunden im Forum und der weist darauf hin, dass evtl. andere Geräte den WLAN Empfang stören und dafür sorgen könnten: http://forum.ubuntuusers.de/topic/wlan-verbindung-bricht-ab-13/
[09:03] <kubine> leszek: Title: WLAN-Verbindung bricht ab › Netzwerk und Internetzugang einrichten › Forum › ubuntuusers.de (at forum.ubuntuusers.de)
[09:04] <leszek> Also ich kann da erstmal auf die schnelle auch nichts anderes empfehlen, außer mal wirklich am Router einen anderen freien Kanal zu wählen.
[09:04] <leszek> Wenn der Router 5 Ghz kann, dann natürlich am besten damit verbinden, weil der Wifi Chip sollte das können und da tummeln sich nicht soviele Störquellen rum
[09:06] <stefanstefanstef> Ok, danke, ich gehe mal am Router auf die Suche. Danke euch...
[11:23] <David1977> ich glaube ich muss mal ne ganz doofe noob frage stellen...
[11:24] <David1977> apt-get upgrade macht nichts anderes als isntallierte pakete auf den neuesten Stand zu bringen, oder?
[11:25] <David1977> falls aber eines der installierten Programme nicht aktualisiert wird, muss dann auf dist-upgrade zurückgegriffen werden?
[11:28] <k1l> jo
[11:46] <SensualDeduction> Hallo zusammen, ich hätte eine konzeptionelle Frage zu X11Forwarding über ssh
[11:47] <SensualDeduction> Ich versuche nautilus auf meinem Remote Server zu starten und ein GUI zu erhalten. x11 forwarding ist eingestellt auf dem server. ich benutze den command ssh -X(habs auch mit -Y probiert) user@ip nautilus
[11:48] <SensualDeduction> Danach kommt Gtk-Warning **: cannot open display
[11:48] <SensualDeduction> jetzt ist meine Frage muss ich das Programm welches ich auf dem Server öffnen will auch auf meinem PC haben, damit es funktioniert?
[11:48] <SensualDeduction> Ich benutze nämlich cygwin und habe Nautilus auf windows natürlich nicht
[11:49] <MadHatter42> was distro haben sie in deniem pc ?
[11:49] <SensualDeduction> ubuntu 14.04
[11:49] <MadHatter42> was distro ist in dem server ?
[11:49] <MadHatter42> (sorry for my bad german)
[11:50] <SensualDeduction> oh english is better anyway. I got win 7 on my pc and ubuntu 14.04 on the server
[11:50] <Fuchs> SensualDeduction: eigentlich nicht, aber cygwin ist da ggf. noch etwas speziell
[11:50] <Fuchs> English koenntest Du in #ubuntu fragen, da ist der MadHatter42 auch drin
[11:51] <SensualDeduction> oh ok, war zuerst auf ubuntuusers und dort stand man soll keine problem fragen stellen und ein verweis auf ubuntu-de
[11:51] <Fuchs> der Verweis war korrekt :)
[11:51] <Fuchs> SensualDeduction: Du hast cygwin/X, und nicht nur ein reines cygwin, ja?
[11:51] <Fuchs> sonst wird das naemlich schon mal nichts
[11:51] <Fuchs> wenn Du das hast: DISPLAY Variable noch setzen, falls noch nicht geschehen. Dann sollte es eigentlich gehen
[11:51] <MadHatter42> Fuchs, ich habe deutsch vergessen un ich mochte deutsch lernen
[11:51] <SensualDeduction> sry was ist der unterschied zwischen cygwin/X und reinem?
[11:52] <Fuchs> MadHatter42: which is perfectly fine, but maybe rather not in a support channel. As I can see you are in #ubuntu-de-offtopic as well, that's more the place for it
[11:52] <Fuchs> SensualDeduction: cygwin/X liefert einen X Server mit, den brauchst Du
[11:52] <Fuchs> http://x.cygwin.com/ << das da
[11:52] <kubine> Fuchs: Title: Cygwin/X (at x.cygwin.com)
[11:52] <MadHatter42> Fuchs, thank you for your suggestion , you are very kind sir
[11:53] <MadHatter42> viele danke
[11:54] <SensualDeduction> ich näme an das package ist unter X11?
[11:54] <SensualDeduction> wie heisst es genau?
[11:54] <Fuchs> SensualDeduction: auf dem Client (Windows), nicht auf dem Server
[11:54] <Fuchs> und dafuer liegt auf der von mir verlinkten Seite ein Installer :)
[11:56] <SensualDeduction> das package heisst xinit das hab ich gesucht^^
[11:56] <Fuchs> Frage: warum genau willst Du nautilus ueberhaupt via ssh starten?
[11:56] <SensualDeduction> ok und was bringt mir das jetzt?
[11:56] <Fuchs> also was ist das Ziel schlussendlich?
[11:57] <SensualDeduction> ich will nicht mühsam mit cd ls mich rumbewegen^^
[11:57] <Fuchs> Das bringt eigentlich, dass Du nun in einem cygwin terminal (oder einem normalen, wenn Du DISPLAY korrekt setzt) das forwarding haben solltest
[11:57] <Fuchs> ist das Zielsystem ein Server oder ein Desktopsystem?
[11:57] <SensualDeduction> destopsystem?
[11:57] <SensualDeduction> est ist ein virtueller server zu dem ich root access habe
[11:58] <Fuchs> das, wo der ssh Server drauf laeuft, wo Du Dich drauf verbindest, was ist das fuer ein Linux und ...
[11:58] <Fuchs> okay, damit endet dann mein Support
[11:58] <SensualDeduction> er wird auf monstervps.de gehostet
[11:58] <Fuchs> 1) auf so eine Kiste gehoert keine graphische Nutzeroberflaeche 2) wenn Du schon unbedingt klicken willst: es gibt genuegend graphische Dateiverwaltungen, die fish / sftp koennen, da muss nicht auf dem Server ein nautilus laufen
[11:58] <tmebis> SensualDeduction, warum nimmst du nicht WinSCP ?
[11:59] <Fuchs> zum Beispiel den, ja
[11:59] <SensualDeduction> warum ist nautilus nicht gut?
[11:59] <Fuchs> aber an sich solltest Du Dir die Kommandozeile angewoehnen
[11:59] <SensualDeduction> warum?
[11:59] <Fuchs> SensualDeduction: weil auf einem Server keine graphische Nutzeroberflaeche zu laufen und ganz sicher kein Gnome installiert zu sein hat
[12:00] <SensualDeduction> ... gute argumentation
[12:00] <SensualDeduction> warum weil NEIN.
[12:00] <Fuchs> SensualDeduction: wenn Du es graphisch haben musst, dann lass die graphische Applikation bei Dir lokal laufen (also unter Windows), die das Protokol fuer Dich abstrahiert
[12:00] <Fuchs> SensualDeduction: weil stark unsicher und ressourcenverschwendung
[12:00] <SensualDeduction> ja genau das will ich ja... ich dachte dafür ist x11 forwarding da nicht?
[12:00] <Fuchs> Nein, bei X Forwarding brauchst Du die Applikation auf der remotekiste installiert,
[12:00] <Fuchs> die Remotekiste ist ein Server, da hat kein nautilus zu laufen
[12:01] <SensualDeduction> ^^
[12:01] <Fuchs> nimm eine x-beliebige graphische Windowsapplikation die fish / sftp kann und nutz die.
[12:01] <Fuchs> Oder, besser, lern und lies Dich ein und gewoehn Dich an die Kommandozeile
[12:01] <SensualDeduction> ok macht sinn, dann hab ich x11forwarding einfach falsch verstanden.
[12:01] <Fuchs> einen Server mit so wenig Wissen zu betreiben fuehrt in aller Regel dazu, dass die Kiste frueher oder spaeter uebernommen wird
[12:01] <Fuchs> und das ist dann eine Spamschleuder mehr im Netz, das brauchen wir eigentlich nicht
[12:02] <SensualDeduction> ermutigend...
[12:02] <Fuchs> aber wenn Du es am Anfang lieber graphisch hast: gibt es Anwendungen fuer, die diverse Remote-Protokolle koennen. Eine wurde Dir genannt
[12:02] <Fuchs> Sinnvoll. Du gehst ohne Fuehrerschein auch nicht gleich mal mit einem LKW auf die Autobahn, da warnen Dich die Leute auch davor. Das ist nicht entmutigend gemeint, sondern fuer Deine Sicherheit, und die Deiner Mitmenschen
[12:06] <SensualDeduction> hast du vielleicht ein gutes tutorial wie man einen server sicher macht, wenn du besorgt bist das ich zur spam schleuder werde ;)
[12:06] <Fuchs> SensualDeduction: eigentlich halt einfach pro Service, welcher der Server anbietet, die Doku lesen,
[12:07] <Fuchs> SensualDeduction: fuer ssh z.B. empfehle ich http://wiki.ubuntuusers.de/ssh, vor allem der Teil zu public key auth. Das einrichten, root login deaktivieren, ssh auf einem non-standard Port laufen lassen
[12:07] <SensualDeduction> https://www.monstervps.de/
[12:07] <kubine> SensualDeduction: Title: monsterVPS.de - Cheap VPS incl. DDoS Protection from 2,49 per month (at www.monstervps.de)
[12:07] <Fuchs> SensualDeduction: aber wenn das Ding dann z.B. httpd macht (Apache oder so), DB Server macht oder sonst etwas, das von aussen erreichbar ist, dann gibt es da kein generisches alles-ist-gut Paket
[12:07] <SensualDeduction> 0 Doku^^ und die dinge über ssh habich gemacht
[12:08] <Fuchs> am besten halt nur anbieten, was es auch wirklich braucht, dann ist die ubuntuusers Doku ziemlich gut, das Forum auch
[12:10] <SensualDeduction> was hällst du von filezilla?
[12:12] <Fuchs> Wenn der SFTP kann: warum nicht
[12:12] <Fuchs> frueher oder spaeter solltest Du Dir die Kommandozeile aber angewoehnen
[12:13] <Fuchs> ab http://wiki.ubuntuusers.de/Einsteiger einlesen, hat gute weiterfuehrende Links
[12:13] <kubine> Fuchs: Title: Einsteiger › Wiki › ubuntuusers.de (at wiki.ubuntuusers.de)
[12:13] <SensualDeduction> ich benutze ubuntu seit ca 1 jahr und hab mich schon an die commandozeile gewöhnt.
[12:14] <SensualDeduction> Ich seh nur den langfristigen nutzen nicht im vergleich zu graphischen oberflächen
[12:14] <SensualDeduction> Sie wurden nicht um sonst erfunden, sondern um schneller und einfacher arbeiten zu können
[12:14] <tmebis> SensualDeduction, auch auf einem Server?
[12:14] <SensualDeduction> wenn es sie gibt wiso nicht?
[12:16] <SensualDeduction> so hab nautilus removed hoff du bist zufrieden :P
[12:16] <tmebis> SensualDeduction, also um Konfigurationsdateien eines Servers zu bearbeiten benötige ich keinen grafischen Editor, dafür tut es doch auch vi, vim, nano oder mc
[12:18] <SensualDeduction> ja vi finde ich ganz ok, es geht mir mer ums rumnavigieren das ständige typen von ls dann cd bla(tab für autocomplete drücken) ist einfach nervig, man findet schneller was man sucht wenn man eine graphische hierarchische ansicht hat
[12:18] <Fuchs> Ansichtssache
[12:18] <Fuchs> Kommandozeile ist halt vor allem praktisch fuer irgendwelches Batchzeugs
[12:19] <tmebis> SensualDeduction, dann schau dir mal "mc" an ... funktioniert sogar mit Maus
[12:19] <Fuchs> also fuer alle Dateinen wo $Bedingung, mach $Aktion
[12:20] <SensualDeduction> oh der sieht ja ganz gut aus :)
[12:21] <SensualDeduction> <3 nehm den perfekt, danke
[12:52] <SensualDeduction> hey weiss jemand obs es midnight commander auch für cygwin gibt? kann iwi nix finden
[12:54] <tmebis> SensualDeduction, es gibt midnight commander für windows
[14:12] <SensualDeduction> hey ne frage zu ssh. wenn ich beim server allowrootlogin disabled habe ist es mir immernoch möglich über den key mich direkt zu root einzuloggen?
[14:14] <SensualDeduction> weil, dies ist mir gerade gelungen. Ich dachte wenn ich in sshd_config AllowRootLogin no mache kann ich mich nicht mehr direkt zu root verbinden auch nicht mit einem private key
[14:20] <geser> SensualDeduction: in meiner Manpage zu sshd_config ist nur die Rede von "PermiRootLogin" aber nicht von "AllowRootLogin". Sicher das du die richtige Option gesetzt hast?
[14:21] <SensualDeduction> ja genau die mein ich hab permitrootlogin no
[14:21] <SensualDeduction> kann mich aber trotzdem noch zu root mit ssh root@ip connecten
[14:22] <SensualDeduction> oh mom hab den service nicht neu gestartet da liegts problem
[14:22] <geser> das wäre meine nächste Idee gewesen :)
[14:22] <SensualDeduction> ^^
[14:24] <SensualDeduction> huh
[14:25] <SensualDeduction> bla /etc/init.d/sshd restart gibt bei mir no such file or directory
[14:25] <SensualDeduction> ah fehler gefunden bei ubuntu ises nur ssh ohne d
[14:25] <geser> nimm "service sshd restart". Das funktioniert sowohl bei Upstart-Jobs als auch bei Init-Skripten
[14:27] <SensualDeduction> top danke das hat funktioniert :)
[15:07] <tmebis> geser, unter 14.04 muss es "/etc/init.d/ssh restart" bzw. "service ssh restart" heißen. Hat SensualDeduction ja schon festgestellt
[15:24] <CryMore> Hallo :D
[15:45] <agentsoul> Hallo mein Rechner ist vollversclüsselt per LUKS ich möchte einen Schlüssel hinzufügen. Wie lösche ich den später? Schlüssel A 1234 Schlüssel B abcd frag mich luks dann bei luksRemoveKey welchen ich entfernen möchte und ich tippe dann halt "1234" oder "abcd"?
[15:58] <ring0> agentsoul, http://wiki.ubuntuusers.de/LUKS#Passwort-loeschen
[15:58] <kubine> ring0: Title: LUKS › Wiki › ubuntuusers.de (at wiki.ubuntuusers.de)
[16:01] <agentsoul> ring0 also ja ich würde dann nach dem Passwort gefragt, welches ich löschen möchte und würde das dann eintippen?
[16:10] <ring0> agentsoul, nein. wie es da steht: sudo cryptsetup luksKillSlot GERÄTEDATEI SLOT
[16:11] <agentsoul> und was macht sudo cryptsetup luksRemoveKey GERÄTEDATEI ?
[16:11] <ring0> agentsoul, gerätedatei ist z.b. /dev/sda und slot z.b. 1
[16:12] <ring0> ein wenig hirn darfst du ruhig einsetzen
[16:13] <agentsoul> ja ist mir klar aber was macht der Befehl sudo cryptsetup luksRemoveKey GERÄTEDATEI im Vergleich zu sudo cryptsetup luksKillSlot GERÄTEDATEI SLOT
[16:14] <ring0> du kannst auch prüfen, welche slots belegt sind. angenommen du nutzt /dev/sda2 für luks: sudo cryptsetup luksDump /dev/sda2
[16:14] <agentsoul> offenbar gibt es ja zwei Wege plus einen veralteten
[16:15] <ring0> angenommen es gibt nur ein passwort, nimmst du die erste variante. gibt es mehrere passwörter und du möchtest ein bestimmtes passwort auf einem bestimmten slot löschen, nimmst du die zweit mit slot
[16:15] <ring0> :)
[16:18] <agentsoul> cryptsetup luksRemoveKey <partition> actually takes a keyfile as the last parameter. So if you want to input the passphrase, just give the device as parameter. cryptsetup will first prompt for "Enter LUKS passphrase to be deleted:" and then "Enter any remaining LUKS passphrase:"
[16:18] <agentsoul> Danke google und ring0
[16:19] <ring0> jo, stand so auch schon im wiki
[16:19] <ring0> wer lesen kann und so ;)
[16:19] <jk__> #airhacks
[16:20] <ring0> nein
[17:12] <muckmw> Guten Abend. Ich möchte mir aus alter Hardware gerne einen Heim-Datenserver bauen, da ich auch noch einige alte Festplatten liegen habe. Welches Betriebssystem wäre zu empfehlen?
[17:14] <overlook> muckmw, schau doch mal nach FreeNAS.
[17:16] <jokrebel> muckmw: Nachdem wir hier in #ubuntu-de sind wohl *buntu in der Server-Minimal-Install-Variante. Ansonsten wär das hier eher fehl am Platz ;-) Aber mal ernsthaft: Solche Umfragen macht man besser im Offtopic-Kanal.
[17:19] <muckmw> ok vielen Dank =)
[19:55] <feodoran> kann mir jemand sagen, wie ich mit prime auf eine AMD (radeon treiber) umschalten kann? hier ist das nur für nvidia erklärt: http://wiki.ubuntuusers.de/Hybrid-Grafikkarten/PRIME
[19:55] <kubine> feodoran: Title: PRIME › Hybrid-Grafikkarten › Wiki › ubuntuusers.de (at wiki.ubuntuusers.de)
[19:56] <bekks> feodoran: Garnicht. PRIME ist für Nvidia GPUs, nicht fpr AMD GPUs. :)
[19:56] <feodoran> bekks: da steht in der einleitung aber was anderes
[19:57] <feodoran> bekks: wie bekomme ich das dann hin?
[19:57] <bekks> Wo steht da was anderes?
[19:58] <feodoran> zweiter absatz: Aufgrund lizenzrechtlicher Probleme mit der Kernelschnittstelle ließ sich PRIME anfänglich nur mit den freien Grafiktreibern (nouveau, radeon, Intel) ...
[19:59] <bekks> Lies bitte auch den zweiten Teil des Satzes ;)
[19:59] <feodoran> ich finde da nichts gegenteiliges
[20:00] <bekks> Ich finde da genau nichts, was sagt, dass nvidia-prime mit AMD funktionieren könnte.
[20:00] <bekks> Das hier funktioniert mit AMD: http://wiki.ubuntuusers.de/Hybrid-Grafikkarten/AMD_Hybrid-Grafikkarten_unter_fglrx
[20:00] <kubine> bekks: Title: AMD Hybrid-Grafikkarten unter fglrx › Hybrid-Grafikkarten › Wiki › ubuntuusers.de (at wiki.ubuntuusers.de)
[20:00] <feodoran> da gehts nur noch um nvidia, das würde ich nie so interpretieren, dass es mit radeon auf einmal nicht mehr geht
[20:00] <feodoran> ich suche eine lösung für radeon, nicht fglrx
[20:01] <bekks> Mit PRIME funktioniert es jedenfalls nicht.
[20:02] <feodoran> dann ist das schlecht erklärt, im wiki
[20:02] <bekks> Da es ein Wiki ist, kannst Du das ja ändern :)
[20:03] <feodoran> geht es irgendwie mit radeon? das letzte mal als ich fglrx installiert hatte, hat ubuntu nicht mehr gebootet, wegen irgendwelcher probleme mit den virtualbox kernel modulen
[20:05] <bekks> fglrx hat nichts mit virtualbox zu tun.
[20:05] <bekks> Hast du das Ubuntu in einer VM?
[20:05] <feodoran> nein ubuntu ist der host
[20:05] <bekks> Dann installier doch einfach fglrx.
[20:06] <feodoran> ich weiß auch nicht genau was das problem war, nur das die kombination schlecht war
[20:06] <bekks> fglrx hat nichts mit vbox zu tun.
[20:06] <bekks> Die Kombination funktioniert einwandfrei.
[20:07] <feodoran> wir werden sehen ...
[20:08] <bekks> Welches Ubuntu nutzt Du?
[20:08] <feodoran> xubu 14.04
[20:08] <feodoran> mit kernel 3.16
[20:09] <feodoran> warum gibt es eigentlich "fglrx-updates" und "fglrx" zur auswahl? ist das beta und stable?
[20:10] <bekks> Das eine ist eine feste Version, das andere wird mit Updates versorgt.
[20:11] <feodoran> das heißt fglrx-updates wird automatisch mit dem system aktualisiert?
[20:11] <ppq> so ist es
[20:11] <bekks> Das fglrx-updates erhält Updates, fglrx nicht.
[20:11] <feodoran> ok
[20:12] <ppq> (bleib besser bei der festen version wenn sie funktioniert, neue grafiktreiberversionen sind gelegentlich eine problemquelle, so hat man weniger ärger)
[20:12] <feodoran> war genau mein gedanke ;)
[20:18] <feodoran> hm...scheint wirklich zu funktionieren
[20:25] <feodoran> hm...ist das normal, dass der radeon treiber kein fullHD ausgeben kann? ich dachte es liegt am intel chip, aber seit ich fglrx installiert hab, bekommt der das auch hin
[20:25] <feodoran> oder macht VGA/HDMI da noch einen unterschied?
[20:29] <ppq> feodoran, full hd sollte eigentlich mit jedem chip, jedem treiber und jeder schnittstelle gehen.
[20:31] <feodoran> ppq: sollte ... letztens gings bei mir nicht, leider kann ich das jetzt nicht mehr testen. aber prinzipiell geht es ja jetzt erstmal
[20:32] <ppq> es kann durchaus auch am monitor liegen
[20:33] <feodoran> auch wenn der monitor an einem anderem rechner fullHD anzeigt?
[20:33] <ppq> auch unter xubuntu 14.04 mit kernel 3.16?
[20:33] <bekks> Auch mit dem radeon-Treiber? :)
[20:33] <feodoran> nein war ein apfel
[20:34] <ppq> joa, dann kann es auch am monitor liegen
[20:35] <ppq> feodoran, sonst versuch es mal mit einer modeline, mit xrandr
[20:35] <feodoran> okay, dachte dafür gibts einen standard, der regelt den rest schon, solange rechner und monitor fullhd können
[20:35] <ppq> es gibt EDID, aber die interpretation der daten ist halt software-sache
[20:36] <feodoran> besagter monitor ist mir leider physisch nicht mehr verfügbar
[20:36] <ppq> achso
[20:45] <bekks> D.h. wir reden hier über ein Problem, das man garnicht mehr lösen kann?
[20:47] <feodoran> quasi, nur dass ich dachte das problem liegt an meinem rechner
[20:51] <bekks> Was ja nicht ausgeschlossen ist.
[20:54] <feodoran> ja, aber der test mit den den geräten die ich hier hab, ist erfolgreich
[20:56] <feodoran> und ich hab wieder was gelernt dabei ;)
|
ubuntu-chat
|
2024-05-13T22:11:15.751547
| 2015-04-07T00:00:00 |
{
"license": "Public Domain",
"authors": [
"CryMore",
"David1977",
"Fuchs",
"MadHatter42",
"SensualDeduction",
"agentsoul",
"bekks",
"feodoran",
"geser",
"jk__",
"jokrebel",
"k1l",
"kubine",
"leszek",
"muckmw",
"overlook",
"ppq",
"ring0",
"stefanstefanstef",
"tmebis"
],
"url": "https://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2015/04/07/%23ubuntu-de.txt",
"channel": "#ubuntu-de"
}
|
2015-04-07-#ubuntu-se-mote
|
[17:40] <johanre> Hej, blir tyvärr ~15min sen.
[17:40] <ersi> Är det möte ikväll?
[17:40] <ersi> står 11:e maj i /topic :o
[17:41] <JoWa> Ja, det är möte i dag.
[18:02] <Guest86820> Håkan här. Kan inte logga in med mitt riktiga namn.
[18:03] <GunnarHj> sitter i annat IRC-möte samtidigt. Skall försöka hålla koll på vad som händer här också...
[18:04] <Guest86820> Kan vi vänta 5 min. med mötet? Behöver ladda diskmaskinen och starta den.
[18:04] <JoWa> Jo. johanre kommer senare.
[18:06] <Guest86820> Nu är maskinen igång.
[18:06] <Guest86820> Välkomna till mötet.
[18:07] <Guest86820> Vi är ju inte så många här så vi behöver kanske inte vara så formella.
[18:08] <Guest86820> Men vi behöver någon som skriver protokollet. Förslag?
[18:08] <Guest86820> Jag föreslår JoWa.
[18:09] <JoWa> Ingen invändning.
[18:09] <Guest86820> Bra.
[18:11] <Guest86820> 1. Godkännande av protokollet från förra mötet.
[18:11] <Guest86820> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SwedishTeam/M%C3%B6te/IRCM%C3%B6te40/Protokoll
[18:12] <GunnarHj> +1 från mig.
[18:12] <Guest86820> Jag tycker det ser bra ut.
[18:12] <Guest86820> Kan vi godkänna det?
[18:12] <Guest86820> +1
[18:13] <JoWa> Jo.
[18:13] <Guest86820> 2. Rapporter
[18:14] <Guest86820> Morpa har lämnat en rapport här: http://ubuntu-se.org/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=34&t=59617
[18:14] <Guest86820> Ser mycket bra ut.
[18:16] <Guest86820> Vad gäller övriga saker så får jag erkänna att jag inte hunnit göra något av vad jag åtog mig.
[18:17] <Guest86820> Punkterna får stå kvar till nästa möte.
[18:17] <Guest86820> Någon som har något att tillägga?
[18:18] <GunnarHj> Kan ju nämna att JoWa och jag hade ett telefonmöte med Telia för ett tag sedan om deras e-leg.
[18:18] <GunnarHj> Vi fick väl åtminstone bekräftat att deras plan är att fortsätta tillhandahålla tjänsten.
[18:18] <GunnarHj> Och de verkar inte helt ointresserade av att samarbeta med oss.
[18:19] <GunnarHj> Fast det är uppenbarligen en byråkratisk organisation.
[18:19] <GunnarHj> Är det en rimlig sammanfattning JoWa?
[18:20] <JoWa> Jo.
[18:21] <Guest86820> Bra jobbat.
[18:21] <GunnarHj> JoWa: Talför som en norrlänning. :)
[18:21] <Guest86820> :)
[18:21] <JoWa> Du minns ju hur talför jag var under mötet. :P
[18:22] <Guest86820> Jag rusar på med nästa punkt.
[18:22] <Guest86820> 3. Planering inför val av Team Leader och Team Contact
[18:22] <Guest86820> Jag har efterlyst en valförättare, men inte fått något napp.
[18:24] <JoWa> LoCo-engagemanget är lågt.
[18:24] <Guest86820> Ja, tyvärr.
[18:24] <GunnarHj> Min högst personliga åsikt är att det vore bra om Håkan och Joakim kvarstår ett år till.
[18:25] <Guest86820> Jag som tänkte att det vore bra med en ny Team Leader.
[18:26] <Guest86820> Om ingen hör av sig innan torsdag så drar jag igång nomineringsprocessen.
[18:26] <GunnarHj> Guest86820: Jovisst, om det finns någon som vill. Jag kanske är lite för pessimistisk...
[18:26] <GunnarHj> Guest86820: Jättebra, Håkan.
[18:27] <Guest86820> 4. Beslut om ändring av forumregel
[18:28] <Guest86820> Vi är väl något få för att ta beslut, eller?
[18:29] <johanre> Hej! Bra fråga, hur många krävs för att kunna ta beslut?
[18:29] <GunnarHj> Äh, låt oss besluta. (Som jag nämnde i forumet tycker jag du hade kunnat göra ändringen utan diskussion.)
[18:30] <Guest86820> OK.
[18:30] <Guest86820> Förslag att ta bort paragraf 2 i reglerna.
[18:30] <Guest86820> "2 § Behandla din omgivning på samma sätt som du själv vill bli behandlad."
[18:30] <Guest86820> Regeln kan låta bra, men är egentligen utan innehåll. Enligt denna regel får en person behandla sin omgivning hur som helst, så länge hans/hennes ageranden är förenliga med hur denne själv vill behandlas. I praktiken kan man komma undan med vad som helst, så länge man hävdar att man själv vill bli utsatt för det man utsätter andra för.
[18:31] <johanre> Bara som förklaring; jag föreslog att vi skulle låta det gå till beslut eftersom det har varit så många åsikter om att vi inte är öppna / transparenta. Jag tycker däremot inte det är en stor fråga, egentligen.
[18:31] <Guest86820> Jag anser inte att paragrafen tillför något.
[18:32] <johanre> Inte jag heller.
[18:32] <Guest86820> Ska vi ta bort paragrafen?
[18:32] <JoWa> Paragrafen tillför något för den som förstår den.
[18:33] <GunnarHj> Jag tycker också det är ok att ta bort den, även om jag tycker JoWa hade en del poänger i forumet.
[18:34] <GunnarHj> Det viktigaste är väl om den tillför något *i praktiken* som vägledning för användarna och moderatorerna. Jag tycker nog inte det.
[18:34] <Guest86820> Det räcker med paragraf 1, 3 och 4, tycker jag
[18:35] <Guest86820> 1 § Var trevlig mot andra medlemmar och besökare i vårt forum.
[18:35] <Guest86820> 3 § Uppträd hövligt, visa respekt för andra medlemmar och deras åsikter.
[18:35] <JoWa> 1+2+3+4 kunde vara en §.
[18:35] <Guest86820> 4 § Tillämpa netikett.
[18:36] <GunnarHj> JoWa: Håller med. Det blir fel för upprepning (ni minns väl "På minuten" i radion).
[18:37] <JoWa> :)
[18:37] <Guest86820> JoWa: Kan hålla med, om vi tar bort 2:an.
[18:38] <JoWa> Det skulle då vara en nyformulerad §.
[18:38] <GunnarHj> §1 Var snäll.
[18:39] <JoWa> :D
[18:39] <GunnarHj> (inte helt allvarligt menat)
[18:42] <Guest86820> JoWa: Varför en nyformulerad?
[18:42] <johanre> Kom vi inte lite ifrån huvudfrågan nu? :-)
[18:43] <GunnarHj> jo
[18:43] <Guest86820> Jo. Det gjorde vi.
[18:43] <Guest86820> Så då är frågan:
[18:43] <Guest86820> Ska vi ta bort paragraf 2?
[18:43] <JoWa> –1
[18:43] <Guest86820> +1
[18:43] <GunnarHj> +1
[18:44] <johanre> +1
[18:44] <Guest86820> Utfallet är att vi tar bort paragraf 2 i forumreglerna.
[18:45] <Guest86820> "2 § Behandla din omgivning på samma sätt som du själv vill bli behandlad."
[18:45] <GunnarHj> Hoppas nu att ingen övertolkar beslutet. ;)
[18:46] <Guest86820> Det är nog ingen fara.
[18:46] <Guest86820> Nästa punkt på dagordningen.
[18:46] <Guest86820> 5. Att göra-lista
[18:46] <Guest86820> Det räcker kanske med de saker som finns där?
[18:47] <JoWa> De skall helst bli färre.
[18:47] <GunnarHj> En sak slog mig häromdagen:
[18:48] <GunnarHj> Borde vi ha en ny forumkategori för frågor kring telefonen? Eller vore det att överadministrera?
[18:50] <johanre> Egentligen, i framtiden, ja. Men är det inte lite tidigt än?
[18:50] <GunnarHj> Kanske du har rätt i att det är för tidigt. Har inte tänkt igenom det, utan noterade bara några trådar.
[18:51] * Guest86820 behöver lämna mötet. Kör på ni.
[18:52] <JoWa> Skadar det att vara tidig?
[18:53] <JoWa> Telefonen finns, och forummedlemmar har den.
[18:53] <johanre> Nej, såklart. Vill ni, så lägger jag upp det.
[18:55] <GunnarHj> +1 för att johanre gör det
[18:55] <JoWa> Var skall den ligga?
[18:55] <bittin> +1
[18:57] <johanre> Huvudkategori under Allt Annat?
[18:58] <JoWa> Eller egen avdelning under Använda Ubuntu?
[18:58] <GunnarHj> Jag tycker "Använda Ubuntu" verkar lämpligare. En del av supportforumet, alltså.
[18:59] <johanre> JoWa: +1, bättre förslag.
[18:59] <GunnarHj> Verkar som om vi har beslutat det då.
[19:00] <JoWa> Övriga frågor?
[19:01] <GunnarHj> Nästa möte först...
[19:01] <johanre> Namnet på den? "Ubuntu Phone"?
[19:02] <JoWa> Ubuntu för telefon och platta?
[19:02] <JoWa> Plattorna kommer ju…
[19:03] <bittin> Ubuntu för telefon och surfplatta?
[19:03] <GunnarHj> +1 för bittins förslag
[19:03] <johanre> +1
[19:03] <JoWa> Läs-, surf-, pek-, spel-platta :P
[19:04] <johanre> :-)
[19:04] <GunnarHj> JoWa: Det får bli underkategorier i framtiden. :)
[19:05] <GunnarHj> Vad säger ni om tisdag 9 juni som dag för nästa möte?
[19:06] <bittin> GunnarHj: låter som en plan allting
[19:06] <bittin> även fast jag bara joinade såhär mot slutet halvt upptagen med ett annat möte också
[19:07] <johanre> Kategori skapad.
[19:07] <GunnarHj> bittin: Det är vad det är: en plan. Dyker något upp som behöver beslutas om snabbt, så kan man kalla till möte tidigare.
[19:08] <JoWa> Jag ser den inte.
[19:08] <bittin> lite skamlös reklam: https://twitter.com/mozilla_l10n/status/585500832273195009 om folk känner att dom har tid att vara uppe grymt sent o vill hjälpa till med Firefox översättning :P
[19:09] <GunnarHj> En sak i taget. Beslut om 9/6 20.00?
[19:09] <GunnarHj> +1
[19:09] <johanre> +1
[19:09] <bittin> nepp kategorin syns inte här med
[19:09] <bittin> +1
[19:09] <JoWa> +1
[19:10] <bittin> men kanske tar ett tag innan cachen gått ur
[19:11] <johanre> shift+ctrl+r - den är där men ganska långt ner.
[19:12] <bittin> yes dök upp då jag tog bort alla kakor
[19:15] <JoWa> Syns inte på http://ubuntu-se.org/phpBB3/index.php
[19:15] <JoWa> Bara på http://ubuntu-se.org/phpBB3/viewforum.php?f=218
[19:17] <GunnarHj> Samma observation här som för JoWa.
[19:18] <johanre> OK, nu. Var en inställning som behöde göras på kategorin.
[19:18] <GunnarHj> Ja, nu dök den upp på forumindexet.
[19:19] <bittin> samma
[19:19] <GunnarHj> Ledarlösa som vi är, är vi redo att avsluta mötet, eller finns det någon övrig fråga?
[19:20] <bittin> jag tycker vi kan avsluta, men jag har intså överbra koll ville mest vara med då jag hade lite spare tid över för once
[19:20] <bittin> :p
[19:20] <bittin> kör mest Mint nu men det är ju Ubuntu i bakrunden
[19:20] <JoWa> Redo för avslut.
[19:20] <GunnarHj> Trevligt att du tittade in, bittin. :)
[19:20] <johanre> +1
[19:21] <GunnarHj> Då är mötet slut.
[19:21] <GunnarHj> Tack för ikväll!
[19:21] <johanre> tack själv!
[19:22] <JoWa> Go’ natt.
[19:22] <johanre> natti
|
ubuntu-chat
|
2024-05-13T22:11:15.773013
| 2015-04-07T00:00:00 |
{
"license": "Public Domain",
"authors": [
"Guest86820",
"GunnarHj",
"JoWa",
"bittin",
"ersi",
"johanre"
],
"url": "https://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2015/04/07/%23ubuntu-se-mote.txt",
"channel": "#ubuntu-se-mote"
}
|
2015-04-07-#ubuntu-bugs
|
[18:05] <stormbrew-> there's a pretty significant bug in libstdc++6 version 5 from the ubuntu-toolchain-r/test ppa on ubuntu 14.04 (all std::error_codes compare not equal with each other, works fine on 4.9 and below), but I'm not sure how/where to report it. The PPA doesn't seem to accept bug reports. I read reportingbugs and it didn't really clarify the issue for me, but maybe I missed something.
[18:11] <ogra_> stormbrew-, talk to doko or infinity in #ubuntu-devel
[18:14] <stormbrew-> k
|
ubuntu-chat
|
2024-05-13T22:11:15.776580
| 2015-04-07T00:00:00 |
{
"license": "Public Domain",
"authors": [
"ogra_",
"stormbrew-"
],
"url": "https://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2015/04/07/%23ubuntu-bugs.txt",
"channel": "#ubuntu-bugs"
}
|
2015-04-07-#cloud-init
|
[13:44] <smoser> cn28h, it stops at the first.
[13:45] <cn28h> aha ok, hm
[13:45] <Odd_Bloke> cn28h: You can configure which data sources it will look at, though.
[13:45] <smoser> gamename (who is gone), cloud-init doesn't currently "pick" eth0. it starts running when the OS's networking is up.
[13:45] <smoser> right, Odd_Bloke you coudl tell cloud-init to not use the openstack, but another entirely.
[13:46] <smoser> or you could (i think) tell cloud-init to use the openstack one, but with a different url (ie, not 169.254.169.254, and use a URL you have control of)
[13:46] <smoser> those things have to be configured prior to cloud-init running.
[13:46] <Odd_Bloke> (I guess you'd also need to skip EC2, as OpenStack provides an EC2-compatible metadata service)
[13:46] <smoser> ie, you can't tell cloud-init where to find data in the data that you're providing it.
[13:46] <smoser> it unfortunately can't read your mind.
[13:47] <smoser> openstack is before EC2 in the order, so that cloud-init will prefer the openstack MD to ec2.
[13:47] <smoser> but, yeah, Odd_Bloke you're right. youd' have to tell it not to look ther also.
[13:48] <smoser> nk121, you should 'apt-get install pastebinit'
[13:48] <smoser> and use pastebinit :)
[13:48] <smoser> then i dont have to go to pastebin.com urls and look at all those adds.
[13:48] <smoser> er... ads.
[13:48] <cn28h> smoser: you mean, there may be a way to configure the openstack datasource to look elsewhere? (that would be great -- I'd been thinking I'd have to actually go subclass the implementation and replace the user data logic)
[13:49] <smoser> yeah, that may be configurable
[13:49] <smoser> the openstack one is.
[13:49] <smoser> er.. the ec2 one is.
[13:49] <cn28h> ah, very interesting
[13:49] <smoser> or you could use "nocloud"
[13:49] <smoser> which is pretty simple also.
[13:49] <smoser> you just need a base-url with a 'user-data' and 'meta-data'
[13:50] <smoser> harlowja_away, what "archive" format would you want for multipart
[13:50] <cn28h> yeah that's an interesting idea -- we *are* using other features like key injection via openstack, but I suppose I can use a shellscript to grab that from the metadata service and stage it.. less elegant but workable
[13:51] <smoser> :)
[13:51] <smoser> yeah.
[13:52] <smoser> cn28h, look at doc/examples/cloud-config-datasources.txt
[13:52] <smoser> thats how you confgiure a datasource... the key 'metadata_urls' that you see in Ec2 is also valid for openstack
[13:52] <smoser> per my reading of the code
[13:53] <smoser> it looks like it reads:
[13:53] <smoser> metadata_urls
[13:53] <smoser> max_wait
[13:53] <smoser> timeout
[13:55] <smoser> nk121, i think you're using vivid ?
[13:56] <nk121> smoser: no trusty
[13:57] <cn28h> nice, yeah that will be great. Now I just need to think of how to correlate it so I can return the right user data for that instance, hm
[13:57] <smoser> right.
[13:57] <smoser> that does suck.
[13:57] <smoser> you oculd look at source ip
[13:57] <smoser> as you should be albe to get the instances ip address
[13:57] <smoser> from openstack
[13:58] <smoser> that is essentially how the opestnack metadata service works
[13:58] <cn28h> ah, yeah that makes sense
[13:58] <cn28h> map it backwards by talking to neutron and figuring out which instance has that IP or some such
[14:04] <smoser> right.
[14:05] <smoser> cn28h, if you do this , it might be somewhat useful generically.
[14:05] <smoser> ie, a opensta-ck-metadata-aware proxy
[14:05] <cn28h> hm
[14:05] <smoser> s/sta-ck/ck/
[14:06] <smoser> fairly simple given openstack admin credentials.
[14:06] <smoser> you just take input of a IP address and render the result.
[14:06] <smoser> you may even be able to re-use the openstack one.. but that might be difficult
[14:06] <cn28h> yeah, I will have to do some digging
[14:07] <cn28h> and discussion with the rest of my team -- they may well just tell me it's too crazy for their tastes and thatI need to find a different way ;p
[14:07] <cn28h> but it sounds like an interesting possibility
[14:08] <cn28h> really it would be nice if the other service currently camping on the user-data field was cloud-init compatible
[14:08] <cn28h> because it's just a handful of key-value pairs that could easily be written to a file and read from there instead ...
[14:09] <cn28h> but that belongs to a codebase we don't own
[14:09] <smoser> cn28h, so... if you're talking to that other service...
[14:09] <smoser> tell them they should support mime-multipart and pick out the pieces they're interetsed in
[14:09] <smoser> or use cloud-config-archive format (which i woudl admit is less "standardy")
[14:10] <smoser> this is waht cloud-init does... it pays attention only to things that are destined for it and ignores other things.t
[14:10] <cn28h> yeah, that makes much more sense so that you can share the user data
[14:10] <smoser> right.
[14:10] <cn28h> maybe I will open a JIRA with a feature request
[14:12] <smoser> nk121, i'm not sure what i'm seeing there really...
[14:12] <smoser> nk121, /var/log/cloud-init-output.log might hvae more info
[15:54] <gamename> Hi. How does cloud-init know which device (e.g. eth0) as the preferred network interface?
[16:20] <Odd_Bloke> 14:45:33 < smoser> gamename (who is gone), cloud-init doesn't currently "pick" eth0. it starts running when the OS's networking is up.
[16:29] <gamename> Odd_Bloke: Eh? Gone? Is the status showing me offline? Re: the question. Ah, ok. cloud-init is agnostic about the network. It just uses whatever interface comes up. All correct?
[16:33] <Odd_Bloke> gamename: You were gone when smoser said that, ~3 hours ago. :)
[16:33] <Odd_Bloke> gamename: I believe your conclusion is correct, yes.
[16:33] <gamename> Odd_Bloke: Got it. I didn't get the response. Sorry for the confusion. I'll check my client (or change the damn thing).
[17:05] <cn28h> smoser: so I had an interesting thought and figured I'd share. If I create a really minimal web app that proxies *locally* I can leave all the heavy lifting in terms of correlation up to openstack because I can just forward requests off to the real thing locally. Then, I can intercept user-data and send that off somewhere else, along with fields I can pull from the metadata service myself to help correlate on the remote end. Should work as
[17:05] <cn28h> long as I can guarantee it's up and running before cloud-init runs.
[17:32] <harlowja> smoser just some simple directory structure would seem like it could replace the whole MIME stuff
[17:32] <harlowja> file + directory struture
[17:32] <harlowja> ^ is also then easily examinable...
[22:54] <harlowja> smoser https://code.launchpad.net/~harlowja/cloud-init/write-files-fetch-from-somewhere should be fixed up
|
ubuntu-chat
|
2024-05-13T22:11:15.786742
| 2015-04-07T00:00:00 |
{
"license": "Public Domain",
"authors": [
"Odd_Bloke",
"cn28h",
"gamename",
"harlowja",
"nk121",
"smoser"
],
"url": "https://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2015/04/07/%23cloud-init.txt",
"channel": "#cloud-init"
}
|
2015-04-07-#ubuntu-nz
|
[19:32] <olly> morning
[19:32] * olly upgrades to saucy
[19:33] <olly> let's hope this goes more smoothly that raring did, where I had to edit the postinst of one of the mythtv packages to get it to work...
|
ubuntu-chat
|
2024-05-13T22:11:15.788020
| 2015-04-07T00:00:00 |
{
"license": "Public Domain",
"authors": [
"olly"
],
"url": "https://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2015/04/07/%23ubuntu-nz.txt",
"channel": "#ubuntu-nz"
}
|
2015-04-07-#ubuntu-meeting
|
[13:13] <JHOSMAN> Good morning mhall119
[13:19] <mhall119> JHOSMAN: good morning, your request was approved, you should get an email today
[13:20] <JHOSMAN> mhall119: Excelent! :D
[13:21] <JHOSMAN> excellent, you tell me that I can forward to you to arrange sponsorship money? mhall119
[13:22] <JHOSMAN> The event is in 11 days.
[13:24] <mhall119> JHOSMAN: like I said, you should get an email from msm who will coordinate that with you
[13:26] <JHOSMAN> mhall119: Fine, then I'll wait notification from you, on the other hand we talked about that if they wish they could put a big banner of Ubuntu but we talked about two options, the first being that you send us a banner and come back by return mail the second (more economical for you and us) is print here in Colombia and that stay here (this cost would be borne by you. (canonical)
[16:00] <coreycb> o/
[16:00] <coreycb> #startmeeting ubuntu-server-team
[16:00] <meetingology> Meeting started Tue Apr 7 16:00:17 2015 UTC. The chair is coreycb. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology.
[16:00] <meetingology> Available commands: action commands idea info link nick
[16:00] <beisner> o/
[16:00] <rharper> o/
[16:00] <matsubara> o/
[16:00] <caribou> o/
[16:00] <smb> o/
[16:00] <strikov> o/
[16:00] <coreycb> Hello everone and welcome to the weekly ubuntu-server meeting
[16:00] <coreycb> #topic Review ACTION points from previous meeting
[16:01] <coreycb> there was one action item from last week - James Page to provide feedback on bugs 1425288 and 1425128
[16:01] <smb> I do not recall any updates there
[16:01] <coreycb> ok smb, and jamespage is likely busy as he is sprinting
[16:01] <coreycb> I'll keep this one as an action
[16:02] <coreycb> #action James Page to provide feedback on bugs 1425288 and 1425128
[16:02] <meetingology> ACTION: James Page to provide feedback on bugs 1425288 and 1425128
[16:02] <smb> ok, though so will I next week (sprinting) ;)
[16:02] <coreycb> sigh
[16:02] <coreycb> #topic Vivid Development
[16:02] <coreycb> #link https://wiki.ubuntu.com/VividVervet/ReleaseSchedule
[16:03] <coreycb> we're past final beta freeze and the next milestone is kernel freeze on April 9th. final freeze is April 16th. release of 15.04 is April 23rd.
[16:04] <coreycb> #subtopic Release Bugs
[16:04] <coreycb> #link http://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-v-tracking-bug-tasks.html#ubuntu-server
[16:05] <coreycb> no new bugs since last week
[16:05] <coreycb> dannf, anything new on 1427406?
[16:06] <coreycb> smoser, anything new on 1427275?
[16:07] <coreycb> juju team is actively working on 1409639
[16:08] <coreycb> and looks like utlemming is actively working on 1409639
[16:09] <coreycb> ok let's move on
[16:09] <coreycb> #subtopic Blueprints
[16:09] <coreycb> #link http://status.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-v/group/topic-v-server.html
[16:10] <coreycb> this should be a bit greener at this point in the cycle so please update your progress
[16:10] <coreycb> #link https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/topic-v-server
[16:11] <coreycb> and we should likely start deferring things soon
[16:11] <coreycb> #topic Server & Cloud Bugs (caribou)
[16:11] <caribou> coreycb: nothing particular this week, thanks
[16:11] <coreycb> thanks caribou
[16:12] <coreycb> #topic Weekly Updates & Questions for the QA Team (matsubara)
[16:12] <matsubara> Nothing new to report. Most of the smoke tests are still failing and I'm not doing a very good job at babysitting them
[16:13] <coreycb> matsubara, ok, thanks and good luck with those
[16:13] <coreycb> #topic Weekly Updates & Questions for the Kernel Team (smb, sforshee, arges)
[16:13] <smb> Nothing specific this week. Just repeating as a reminder that UE is sprinting next week, so there is a high chance I might miss next weeks irc meeting (and probably same for arges and sforshee )
[16:13] <coreycb> smb, ok thanks for the update
[16:14] <coreycb> #topic Ubuntu Server Team Events
[16:14] <coreycb> any events going on? I know there are a few sprints going on.
[16:15] <coreycb> #topic Open Discussion
[16:15] <coreycb> does anyone have anything else they'd like to cover?
[16:15] <coreycb> thanks everyone for attending
[16:15] <coreycb> #topic Announce next meeting date, time and chair
[16:16] <beisner> thx coreycb
[16:16] <caribou> thanks coreycb
[16:16] <dannf> coreycb: i provided a patch
[16:16] <coreycb> Tues April 14th 16:00 UTC
[16:16] <dannf> coreycb: in that bug
[16:16] <coreycb> dannf, ah ok
[16:16] <dannf> coreycb: still blocked on the mariadb side
[16:17] <dannf> coreycb: but as for mysql, i'm considering it done from my pov unless someone asks for something
[16:18] <coreycb> dannf, ok do you need anything from the server team?
[16:18] <dannf> coreycb: review/upload i guess :)
[16:19] <dannf> and testing on non-arm64, if you have tests to run
[16:19] <coreycb> rbasak, can you handle that?
[16:20] <dannf> (and happy to help where i can, not trying to throw it over the wall... completely) :)
[16:20] <coreycb> dannf, I'll add an action for rbasak since he had asked for a patch in that bug
[16:21] <rbasak> o/
[16:21] <rbasak> dannf: I thought the patch wasn't ready to upload to Ubuntu yet?
[16:21] <rbasak> If so, I don't feel I have any action I can take here.
[16:22] <rbasak> I'd prefer to see the patch adopted upstream - then we can certainly update or cherry-pick it.
[16:22] <dannf> rbasak: i'd like upstream to ack it, but they haven't. it's definitely *better* on arm64 than the current version, but i don't have regression tests for other archs
[16:23] <rbasak> We can't risk regression on other archs
[16:23] <strikov> dannf: do you mean the whole series of patches or just the last one which adds aarch64 to power-related ifdefs?
[16:23] <dannf> strikov: entire series
[16:24] <dannf> rbasak: right - and is there a way we can regression test other archs in house?
[16:24] <rbasak> Beyond the standard test suite? Not that I'm aware of.
[16:24] <rbasak> But this kind of fix strikes me as the type that standard regression tests won't catch.
[16:26] <rbasak> I guess what I'm expecting is someone to go deep and verify, in whatever way necessary, to a reasonable level that there won't be a regression on another arch.
[16:26] <coreycb> thanks for the discussion guys. I"m going to end the meeting. I assume you can continue the discussion offline if needed.
[16:26] <rbasak> OK, that's fair. Thanks coreycb.
[16:26] <coreycb> #endmeeting
[16:26] <meetingology> Meeting ended Tue Apr 7 16:26:59 2015 UTC.
[16:26] <meetingology> Minutes: http://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/ubuntu-meeting/2015/ubuntu-meeting.2015-04-07-16.00.moin.txt
[16:28] <dannf> rbasak: yeah, and I don't think I'm capable of that - so i guess that means blocked-on-upstream-acceptance?
[17:00] <jsalisbury> #startmeeting
[17:00] <jsalisbury> ##
[17:00] <jsalisbury> ## This is the Ubuntu Kernel Team weekly status meeting.
[17:00] <jsalisbury> ##
[17:00] <jsalisbury> [LINK] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelTeam/Meeting
[17:00] <meetingology> Meeting started Tue Apr 7 17:00:17 2015 UTC. The chair is jsalisbury. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology.
[17:00] <meetingology> Available commands: action commands idea info link nick
[17:00] <jsalisbury> [LINK] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelTeam/ReleaseStatus/Vivid
[17:00] <jsalisbury> # Meeting Etiquette
[17:00] <jsalisbury> #
[17:00] <jsalisbury> # NOTE: '..' indicates that you are finished with your input.
[17:00] <jsalisbury> # 'o/' indicates you have something to add (please wait until you are recognized)
[17:00] <arges> o/
[17:00] <henrix> o/
[17:00] <jsalisbury> Roll Call for Ubuntu Kernel Weekly Status Meeting
[17:00] <kamal> o/
[17:00] <ogasawara> o/
[17:00] <rtg> o/
[17:00] <sforshee> o/
[17:00] <smb> \o
[17:00] <cking> o/
[17:00] <bjf> o/
[17:00] <jsalisbury> [TOPIC] Release Metrics and Incoming Bugs (jsalisbury)
[17:01] <jsalisbury> Release metrics and incoming bug data can be reviewed at the following link:
[17:01] <jsalisbury> [LINK] http://people.canonical.com/~kernel/reports/kt-meeting.txt
[17:01] <jsalisbury> ..
[17:01] <jsalisbury> [TOPIC] Status: Vivid Development Kernel (ogasawara)
[17:01] <ogasawara> Our Vivid kernel remains based on the upstream v3.19.3 stable kernel.
[17:01] <ogasawara> Vivid kernel freeze is this Thurs Apr 9. We are still chasing down some
[17:01] <ogasawara> recent regressions, but we intend to prepare and upload our proposed
[17:01] <ogasawara> final kernel for Vivid no later than tomorrow Wed Apr 8. If you have
[17:01] <ogasawara> any patches which need to land for 15.04's release, please let us know
[17:01] <ogasawara> and get them submitted to the list now.
[17:01] <ogasawara> -----
[17:01] <ogasawara> Important upcoming dates:
[17:01] <ogasawara> [LINK] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/VividVervet/ReleaseSchedule
[17:01] <ogasawara> Thurs Apr 09 - Kernel Freeze (~2 days away)
[17:01] <ogasawara> Thurs Apr 23 - 15.04 Release (~2 weeks away)
[17:01] <ogasawara> ..
[17:01] <jsalisbury> [TOPIC] Status: CVE's
[17:01] <jsalisbury> The current CVE status can be reviewed at the following link:
[17:01] <jsalisbury> http://people.canonical.com/~kernel/cve/pkg/ALL-linux.html
[17:01] <jsalisbury> ..
[17:01] <jsalisbury> [TOPIC] Status: Stable, Security, and Bugfix Kernel Updates - Utopic/Trusty/Precise/Lucid (bjf/henrix/kamal/arges)
[17:01] <bjf> Status for the main kernels, until today:
[17:02] <bjf> * Lucid - None (no update)
[17:02] <bjf> * Precise - Testing & Verification
[17:02] <bjf> * Trusty - Testing & Verification
[17:02] <bjf> * Utopic - Testing & Verification
[17:02] <bjf>
[17:02] <bjf> Current opened tracking bugs details:
[17:02] <bjf> * http://kernel.ubuntu.com/sru/kernel-sru-workflow.html
[17:02] <bjf> For SRUs, SRU report is a good source of information:
[17:02] <bjf> * http://kernel.ubuntu.com/sru/sru-report.html
[17:02] <bjf>
[17:02] <bjf>
[17:02] <bjf> Schedule:
[17:02] <bjf>
[17:02] <bjf> Current cycle: 20-Mar through 11-Apr
[17:02] <bjf> [17:02] <bjf> 20-Mar Last day for kernel commits for this cycle
[17:02] <bjf> 22-Mar - 28-Mar Kernel prep week.
[17:02] <bjf> 29-Mar - 11-Apr Bug verification; Regression testing; Release
[17:02] <bjf>
[17:02] <bjf>
[17:02] <bjf> NOTE: Lucid goes EOL on April 30.
[17:02] <bjf>
[17:02] <bjf> ..
[17:02] <jsalisbury> [TOPIC] Open Discussion or Questions? Raise your hand to be recognized (o/)
[17:02] <jsalisbury> Thanks everyone
[17:02] <jsalisbury> #endmeeting
[17:02] <meetingology> Meeting ended Tue Apr 7 17:02:56 2015 UTC.
[17:02] <meetingology> Minutes: http://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/ubuntu-meeting/2015/ubuntu-meeting.2015-04-07-17.00.moin.txt
[17:03] <kamal> thanks jsalisbury
[17:29] <dkessel> hey costales: good job on anoise! i enjoy it :)
|
ubuntu-chat
|
2024-05-13T22:11:15.793308
| 2015-04-07T00:00:00 |
{
"license": "Public Domain",
"authors": [
"JHOSMAN",
"arges",
"beisner",
"bjf",
"caribou",
"cking",
"coreycb",
"dannf",
"dkessel",
"henrix",
"jsalisbury",
"kamal",
"matsubara",
"meetingology",
"mhall119",
"ogasawara",
"rbasak",
"rharper",
"rtg",
"sforshee",
"smb",
"strikov"
],
"url": "https://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2015/04/07/%23ubuntu-meeting.txt",
"channel": "#ubuntu-meeting"
}
|
2015-04-07-#ubuntu-gnome
|
[04:52] <bradscoolio> yo, will the nightlies of 15.04 get an update to the stable release?
[05:57] <bradscoolio> yo, will the nightlies of 15.04 get an update to the stable release?
[05:57] <darkxst> bradscoolio, yes
[05:58] <darkxst> automatically once you update after release
[05:59] <bradscoolio> thanks, I was planning to install natively because it seemed stable enough in a vm. Now I will :)
[19:00] <ibouvousaime> hello guys I'm trying to use a nvidia card with blender but blender doesnt seem to see it I get his log when I'm trying to see if the gpu is active http://ur1.ca/k4jsr my driver info is http://ur1.ca/k4jto I already have the nvidia seting manager installed and have libcuda1-346 installed
[20:23] <xennex81> I gave ubuntu-gnome a shot, I am not sure if it made it through to the mailinglist.
[20:23] <xennex81> i just sent a message detailing some of the proess or experieces.
[20:24] <xennex81> process or experiences.*
[20:38] <xennex81> generating an initrd for an existing cryptsetup is always an issue.
[20:39] <xennex81> all of the ubuntu installers and the debian installer are the same.
[20:39] <xennex81> except that the debian text-mode installer is very good, but the other distro's don't have it.
|
ubuntu-chat
|
2024-05-13T22:11:15.797650
| 2015-04-07T00:00:00 |
{
"license": "Public Domain",
"authors": [
"bradscoolio",
"darkxst",
"ibouvousaime",
"xennex81"
],
"url": "https://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2015/04/07/%23ubuntu-gnome.txt",
"channel": "#ubuntu-gnome"
}
|
2015-04-07-#ubuntu-x
|
[23:18] <furkan> any ideas on how i can debug dpms? it seems to have stopped working for me
[23:18] <furkan> i manually type "sleep 1; xset dpms force off" into the terminal, and nothing happens
[23:19] <furkan> the screen simply doesn't turn off... at the lock screen, it fades to black, but backlight stays on and mouse pointer is visible
[23:19] <furkan> this is on 15.04... earlier this was only happening after suspend/resume, now it happens all the time
[23:56] <furkan> looks like a kernel issue... i booted up in 4.0 rc7 and it works fine
[23:58] <furkan> spoke too soon.. still doesn't work after suspend/resume
|
ubuntu-chat
|
2024-05-13T22:11:15.799412
| 2015-04-07T00:00:00 |
{
"license": "Public Domain",
"authors": [
"furkan"
],
"url": "https://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2015/04/07/%23ubuntu-x.txt",
"channel": "#ubuntu-x"
}
|
2015-04-07-#ubuntu-server
|
[00:05] <MrMurdok> For load balanced web servers can you set the PTR records the same for each? Also, does this apply for virtual IPs?
[00:06] <sarnold> what is a virtual ip?
[00:07] <Patrickdk> one that starts with 256?
[00:07] <MrMurdok> ok have a good day
[00:07] <Patrickdk> not sure why they need a ptr at all
[00:07] <Patrickdk> and now we never will know
[00:08] <sarnold> man that's gonna drive me crazy :)
[00:30] <kemmler> If I have a .deb that someone else created and is hosting on a custom repo, can I backport that without the .dsc or source files or am I going to need to recreate the package for the release I need?
[00:34] <sarnold> it might work, but be careful of installing packages from unknown sources, they get to run pre and post install scripts as root.
[00:36] <kemmler> Well I intend to go over everything very carefully before deploying. I'm just unsure about how to go about it because the toolchain is wrong so it simply won't install, i'll need to rebuild, and backportpackage seems to only want to use official repos
[07:30] <tmontney> I'm having a problem.
[07:31] <tmontney> I installed Ubuntu Server 14.04 from a flash drive, but it won't boot to the server without my flash drive.
[07:31] <tmontney> It's as if I installed the server to the flash drive (from the flash drive), but I know I didn't.
[07:31] <tmontney> Without my flash drive, all I get is a blinking underscore.
[07:32] <tmontney> I've installed Ubuntu before with a flash drive, but never had this issue.
[07:47] <bearface> tmontney: grub was probably installed to the flash drive
[07:48] <tmontney> hm
[07:48] <tmontney> how would I reinstall it?
[07:52] <bearface> 'sudo grub-install /dev/sdX' X being the correct disk.. you can do this when booted (using the usb stick to boot into the system)
[07:53] <tmontney> Bah, now I have another problem before I can get to that.
[07:54] <tmontney> Installed NFS, DHCP, and TFTP then restarted the server.
[07:54] <tmontney> "Waiting for network configuration" is what I'm getting.
[07:55] <tmontney> I know the issue is Interfaces related, but I can't get to edit it.
[07:56] <tmontney> never mind it finally booted.
[08:07] <tmontney> hm didn't see to wrok.
[08:08] <tmontney> I have sda1 as EXT4 and sda5 as SWAP
[08:08] <tmontney> I installed grub to SDA1
[08:08] <tmontney> but got "File system ext2 doesn't support embedding"
[08:08] <tmontney> and "embedding is not possible grub can only be installed in this setup by using blocklists"
[08:23] <lordievader> Good morning.
[08:29] <tmontney> Still night time for me.
[08:31] <lordievader> Installed grub to sda1? As in the partition rather than the disk?
[08:33] <lordievader> tmontney: ^
[08:38] <tmontney> It seems grub was installed to sdb
[08:38] <tmontney> my flash drive
[08:39] <tmontney> If my flash drive is unplugged, grub doesn't appear and nothing happens.
[08:39] <OpenTokix> tmontney: boot on a livecd, and "repair" your ubuntu
[08:40] <lordievader> tmontney: Don't install it to a partition, install it to the disk.
[08:40] <tmontney> Right, I wasn't intending to do that. I usually install Ubuntu from a flash drive.
[08:40] <tmontney> For whatever reason it installed incorrectly.
[08:41] <tmontney> Alright I'll make a new livecd
[08:43] <tmontney> Ugh, I'm just having problem after problem. Normally things go pretty smoothly.
[08:43] <tmontney> I have two NICs, and they show up with ifconfig -a
[08:44] <tmontney> but they're both down despite a link light
[08:44] <tmontney> originally my PCI NIC was named p5p1, but I found a way to bring back the eth naming convention
[08:45] <OpenTokix> tmontney: the p5p1 naming in persistent, ethX is not
[08:45] <lordievader> ^ that, bios naming is actually quite nice.
[08:45] <lordievader> No longer having to mess with udev rules to get the right name.
[08:45] <OpenTokix> tmontney: Thats why they changed it - quite annoying, but unless you have legacy scripts that use ethX naming, get used to it
[08:45] <OpenTokix> lordievader: yes
[08:46] <OpenTokix> lordievader: but when you have buggy scripts, it is quite annoying.
[08:46] <OpenTokix> lordievader: I have a script that takes "First interface from ifconfig" ;)
[08:46] <lordievader> Yeah, most things here still run with eth naming conventions.
[08:46] <OpenTokix> lordievader: and for the pX naming, lo is the first - hehe
[08:47] <tmontney> Well I already changed it thinking it'd solve my issue lol.
[08:47] <tmontney> regardless neither one of my NICs think they're plugged in
[08:47] <tmontney> no matter if they're auto or static
[08:48] <OpenTokix> And you have firmware installed?
[08:48] <tmontney> firmware?
[08:48] <tmontney> did you mean software/drivers/packages?
[08:49] <lordievader> tmontney: Don't they detect the cable or are they simply down?
[08:49] <tmontney> my link light is on
[08:49] <tmontney> ifconfig only shows lo
[08:49] <tmontney> ifconfig -a shows eth0 eth1 and lo
[08:50] <lordievader> tmontney: What does 'ip link' say?
[08:50] <lordievader> !paste
[08:54] <tmontney> eth0: <BROADCAST,MULTICAST> mtu 1500 qdisc noop state DOWN mode DEFAULT group default qlen 1000 link/ether (MAC ADDRESS OMITTED) brd ff:ff:ff:ff:ff:ff
[08:54] <tmontney> eth1: <BROADCAST, MULTICAST> mtu 1500 qdisc noop state DOWN mode DEFAULT group default qlen 1000 link/ether (MAC ADDRESS OMITTED) brd ff:ff:ff:ff:ff:ff
[08:54] <lordievader> Meh, they are just down. 'sudo ip l s ethX up'
[08:54] <tmontney> Aw, didn't do it right sorry. http://paste.ubuntu.com/10759672/
[08:55] <lordievader> Probably weren't configured to be brought up.
[08:55] <tmontney> Odd.
[08:56] <tmontney> I've installed Ubuntu Server quite a few times now and I haven't had that happen.
[08:56] <tmontney> Although I never had multiple NICs.
[08:56] <tmontney> Thanks.
[08:58] <lordievader> tmontney: Check /etc/network/interfaces
[08:58] <tmontney> Oh I've been playing with that.
[08:59] <tmontney> I'm trying to test my NFS server.
[09:00] <tmontney> every restart they're set to down again
[09:01] <lordievader> Are they configured to start?
[09:02] <tmontney> don't know
[09:03] <tmontney> that was brilliant of me
[09:04] <tmontney> I commented out auto eth1
[09:04] <tmontney> thinking it referred to DHCP
[09:05] <OpenTokix> =)
[09:05] <lordievader> There you go ;)
[09:20] <YamakasY> which locales do we need on a server ?
[09:21] <OpenTokix> YamakasY: the once you use
[09:22] <YamakasY> so only US actually ?
[09:22] <OpenTokix> YamakasY: I have en_US, en_US.UTF-8, sv_SE and sv_SE.UTF-8 on mine, since I am swedish
[09:22] <OpenTokix> en_US and en_US.UTF-8 should be sufficient
[09:22] <YamakasY> yap, I need NL than
[09:22] <YamakasY> OpenTokix: swedish woman are nice :D
[09:23] <lordievader> en_US.UTF-8 suffices in most cases.
[09:23] <OpenTokix> YamakasY: how is that relevant at all?
[09:27] <YamakasY> OpenTokix: you need to speak the right locale for it :)
[09:27] <YamakasY> lordievader: yap
[09:27] <YamakasY> but I see when I reconfigure I don't get any php5-fpm errors in puppet again
[09:27] <YamakasY> weird
[09:35] <tmontney> Figured it out.
[09:35] <tmontney> Somewhere I found iface p5p1 inet manual was the correct syntax.
[09:35] <tmontney> Just realized it's static not manual
[09:35] <OpenTokix> manual is another setting
[09:36] <tmontney> which is why I was getting an APIPA ipv6 address
[10:13] <Quoexl> anyone alive?
[10:55] <OpenTokix> Yes
[10:55] <OpenTokix> I might also be OpenTokix from 6th sense, and then you are dead too.
[11:06] <rbasak> strikov: are we ready to release Juju to Vivid in bug 1416051?
[11:08] <rbasak> kickinz1: free to talk about Docker?
[11:09] <kickinz1> rbasak, yes
[11:09] <rbasak> kickinz1: please can you make the two corrections doko asked for last week?
[11:10] <rbasak> kickinz1: IIRC, one was the build-dep for powerpc(?) and the other was my mistake in the selection of gccgo in debian/rules.
[11:10] <strikov> rbasak: I think so. Curtis carried out all the necessary testing procedures. I'l' discuss it with pitty on #ubuntu-devel now. He is the right person for this, right?
[11:11] <rbasak> strikov: yes. Also you can remove the block-proposed tag in the bug. That tag and the dep8 test failure in http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/proposed-migration/update_excuses.html are the two things blocking it from Vivid right now I think.
[11:11] <kickinz1> rbasak, OK, I'll do (was re-reading backlog)
[11:27] <YamakasY> how do I test uattended auto upgrade ?
[11:27] <OpenTokix> YamakasY: What do you want to test, if it works on your system?
[11:28] <YamakasY> OpenTokix: yap
[11:29] <OpenTokix> YamakasY: to make it 100%, you need to take a snapshot of your system, upgrade and verify
[11:29] <YamakasY> OpenTokix: upgrade how ? is that not triggered ?
[11:29] * YamakasY doesn't get it
[11:38] <kickinz1> rbasak, sent you the new patch. Refreshed format-patch files.
[11:40] <rbasak> Thanks!
[11:45] <YamakasY> I need to check if my crondayly for apt is runned
[11:46] <OpenTokix> YamakasY: check your log?
[11:47] <YamakasY> OpenTokix: I can ru it manually ?
[11:47] <YamakasY> that apt ?
[11:48] <OpenTokix> YamakasY: yes, just take the command part from your cronline, and run it
[11:49] <YamakasY> I can just do /etc/cron.daily/apt ?
[11:49] * YamakasY needs to get back to cron again after years :D
[11:50] <OpenTokix> YamakasY: no, the command inside the that script
[11:51] <YamakasY> ok
[11:52] <YamakasY> which part, that is the question... apt get update and so n just works OK
[11:56] <OpenTokix> YamakasY: I would safely assume it works
[11:58] <YamakasY> OpenTokix: I'm quite sure it doesn't as my kernels are not removed after an upgrade
[11:59] <OpenTokix> YamakasY: they never are
[11:59] <YamakasY> OpenTokix: and when I do an apt-upgrade I still get lots if packages that are installable... mhh I think only security upgrades are done
[11:59] <lordievader> YamakasY: apt-get autoremove might do that.
[12:00] <YamakasY> lordievader: it does indeed
[12:00] <YamakasY> but I want to have that cronned
[12:00] <lordievader> YamakasY: No apt-get upgrade doesn't have a lot of rights, take apt-get dist-upgrade if you want something with full permissions.
[12:00] <OpenTokix> YamakasY: Ithink there is some settings for unattended
[12:00] <YamakasY> lordievader: I'm using puppet @ that part... so I'm kinda bound to it for 300 servers
[12:00] <YamakasY> OpenTokix: I have that set on 1
[12:01] <OpenTokix> YamakasY: you dont want to remove kernels automatically
[12:01] <YamakasY> OpenTokix: I want to, really
[12:01] <OpenTokix> YamakasY: ok
[12:01] <YamakasY> and I want a Porsche 911 GT3 RS too!
[12:01] <OpenTokix> ok
[12:02] <YamakasY> maybe I can apt-get that
[12:04] <YamakasY> strange
[12:08] <YamakasY> nah weird
[12:11] <lordievader> ?
[12:13] <YamakasY> I just want my server to have latest packages
[12:14] <YamakasY> on cron based
[12:16] <lordievader> YamakasY: So add that to cron?
[12:18] <OpenTokix> YamakasY: http://pastebin.com/WwdWUcGc <-- There is your script
[12:18] <OpenTokix> YamakasY: it will also break your servers down the line, but have fun =)
[12:20] <YamakasY> OpenTokix: erm, why would it ?
[12:20] <lordievader> Because it says yes to everything.
[12:21] <lordievader> In these cases you want cron to mail you the output. So you can see if apt/dpkg has broken stuff.
[12:23] <YamakasY> lordievader: oh that
[12:23] <YamakasY> I would like to hold my own configs
[12:23] <OpenTokix> YamakasY: it does
[12:23] <OpenTokix> force-confold
[12:40] <strikov> rbasak: regarding slapd bug: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/openldap/+bug/1103353
[12:40] <strikov> rbasak: i have debdiffs for both precise and trusty
[12:40] <strikov> rbasak: i did a research on CVE attached to the bug and came to conclusion that it was attached incorrectly
[12:41] <strikov> rbasak: this CVE is about a different thing and I have no idea why it was attached
[12:44] <rbasak> strikov: agreed and removed.
[12:45] <YamakasY> OpenTokix: thanks tho
[12:45] <YamakasY> and lordievader
[13:59] <joners> would anyone be able to give me a hand securing a folder in apache on 14.04?
[14:00] <joners> ive setup a squid proxy and configured sarg to generate reports every hour and id like to restrict access to the squid reports page using a simple username and password
[14:04] <OpenTokix> joners: Beck.Sjukhusmorden.2015.SWEDiSH.720p.HDTV.x264-xD2V/Beck.Sjukhusmorden.2015.SWEDiSH.720p.HDTV.x264-xD2V.srt
[14:04] <OpenTokix> ups =)
[14:04] <OpenTokix> joners: https://wiki.apache.org/httpd/PasswordBasicAuth
[14:04] <OpenTokix> wrong paste =)
[14:05] <joners> thanks for the link, tried that one but afraid im not getting anywhere with it :/
[14:05] <joners> seems there were some changes in ubuntu's apache implimentation
[14:05] <OpenTokix> joners: ok, what is your problem?
[14:05] <OpenTokix> joners: I doubt it
[14:05] <OpenTokix> joners: is your auth modules enabled?
[14:05] <joners> yes it appears to be
[14:05] <OpenTokix> joners: what does you error logs say?
[14:06] <joners> afraid im a complete noob when it comes to apache
[14:06] <joners> two seconds ill see if i can get a paste of them
[14:06] <OpenTokix> joners: ok, I am not - so, what does you error logs say?
[14:13] <joners> sorry for the delay, there are only a couple of errors in there. Most are saying "AH01615: need AuthName: /squid-reports/"
[14:13] <joners> the squid-reports directory is what im trying to secure
[14:15] <joners> Would it be worth me noting what ive done in order?
[14:16] <OpenTokix> joners: Can you pastebin your configuration where you have the authblock?
[14:16] <OpenTokix> joners: And you have created the user, and restarted apache?
[14:16] <joners> yes, created the user as per the guide in the link you sent over https://wiki.apache.org/httpd/PasswordBasicAuth
[14:17] <joners> created the htpasswd directory and password file, added a user in there which i can see.
[14:20] <joners> this was the default apache2 config file
[14:20] <joners> http://paste.ubuntu.com/10762658/
[14:21] <OpenTokix> and the site?
[14:21] <joners> just getting that now
[14:22] <joners> this would be the default configuration file in the sites-enabled directory right?
[14:23] <OpenTokix> might be, if you have added your block there
[14:23] <joners> i havent added anything there yet, this is the bit im trying to do
[14:27] <OpenTokix> joners: you can add it for the entire / if you want to
[14:32] <joners> http://paste.ubuntu.com/10762760/
[14:32] <joners> sorry about the wait!
[14:34] <joners> The error i get when I restart Apache is "Syntax error on line 216 of /etc/apache2/apache2.conf: Syntax error on line 41 of /etc/apache2/sites-enabled/000-default.conf: </Directory> directive missing closing '>'" which points directly to the line ive edited.
[14:34] <joners> I cant see any missing '>' though
[14:39] <lordievader> joners: Does line 41 correspond with line 41 of your paste?
[14:39] <joners> yes
[14:40] <lordievader> Ah yes, on line 41 change </Directory> to <Directory>
[14:40] <joners> ok ill give that a shot now
[14:42] <joners> success! god dam typos!
[14:42] <joners> thank you for your help. :)
[14:57] <mgagne> hallyn: can I get an update on bug #1425619 ?
[15:06] <hallyn> yes it's in comment #6
[15:07] <hallyn> in another week or so we'll drop the other pending SRU and then we can push the one for bug 1425619
[15:20] <hallyn> yup
[15:20] <hallyn> wrong chan :)
[17:47] <hallyn> stgraber: oh. hm. Now so long as a container is running systemd, we know it must have lxcfs (or cgroup mounts), so libvirt can just not use cgmanager in that case right?
[17:48] <hallyn> So really, in vivid's cgmanager we can/should just drop the cgmanager usage?
[17:48] <stgraber> I'm failing to understand the question
[17:49] <hallyn> we have a custom patch in libvirt to use cgmanager for cgroup stuff, so that it can run in containers
[17:49] <hallyn> i'm saying that in vivid we can drop that patch
[17:49] <stgraber> not sure you can, lxcfs doesn't apply to the host, just to the containers
[17:50] <stgraber> so you still won't have /sys/fs/cgroup/<controller> on the host
[17:50] <hallyn> we won't?
[17:50] <hallyn> doesn't systemd mount those?
[17:50] <stgraber> oh yeah, nevermind
[17:50] <hallyn> and actually i think libvirtd talks to systemd when it can for cgroup stuff
[17:51] <stgraber> so yeah, if the only use case for that patch was to be able to run libvirt inside a container, then the patch can be dropped thanks to lxcfs
[17:51] <hallyn> now if someone installs upstart in a vivid container they may have trouble,
[17:51] <hallyn> that was the only reason, yeah - for adt i think :)
[17:51] <stgraber> if it's not too much trouble, I'd probably keep it around for 15.04 and drop in 15.10 or so (certainly for 16.04)
[17:51] <hallyn> cool - i *would* update it, but it would reuqire quite a few updates and doesn't seem worth the fragility
[17:52] <stgraber> so that if someone has to revert to usptream somehow it'll still work. By 15.10 we should be so dependent on systemd for the various jobs that reverting to usptart likely won't be much of an option for users
[17:52] <hallyn> the troubles are: (1) having to deal with comounted containers, (2) having to deal with libvirt being confined to a non-/ cgroup by systemd,
[17:52] <hallyn> but juju folks might have trouble i guess
[17:53] <stgraber> hmm, I guess if someone was to deploy a compute node inside a lxc container with juju, they'd run into that problem
[17:53] <hallyn> i also considered having libvirt not use cgmanager when pid 1 is systemd, but then if there are regressions in the cgmanager code we'd have trouble finding them
[18:04] <Phibs> anyone know where icehouse went? http://ubuntu-cloud.archive.canonical.com/ubuntu/dists/
[18:04] <Phibs> certainly supported on 14.0.4
[18:04] <Phibs> but totally missing/gone
[18:08] <sarnold> Odd_Bloke,bigjools, ^^^ see Phibs's question ..
[21:10] <beanbag> so
[21:11] <beanbag> what all do I need to do to add a compiled scsi module to a existing system that can't boot because the installer didn't add the module
[21:11] <beanbag> I already went into the directory on the hard drive and added the module to lib/modules
[21:11] <beanbag> did chroot and ran depmod -a
[21:11] <beanbag> then did mkinitramfs
[21:46] <beanbag> ugh
[21:46] <beanbag> I can't figure out this fucking thing
|
ubuntu-chat
|
2024-05-13T22:11:15.804556
| 2015-04-07T00:00:00 |
{
"license": "Public Domain",
"authors": [
"MrMurdok",
"OpenTokix",
"Patrickdk",
"Phibs",
"Quoexl",
"YamakasY",
"beanbag",
"bearface",
"hallyn",
"joners",
"kemmler",
"kickinz1",
"lordievader",
"mgagne",
"rbasak",
"sarnold",
"stgraber",
"strikov",
"tmontney"
],
"url": "https://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2015/04/07/%23ubuntu-server.txt",
"channel": "#ubuntu-server"
}
|
2015-04-07-#ubuntu-ci-eng
|
[02:10] <imgbot> [03:40] <imgbot> [03:40] <imgbot> [06:39] <abeato> trainguards, please assign silo to line 56
[06:40] <Mirv> sure
[06:47] <abeato> thx!
[08:32] <davmor2> sil2100: where are you
[09:09] <pstolowski> trainguards, hello, may i ask to reconfigure vivid silo 29?
[09:10] <sil2100> pstolowski: on it!
[09:10] <sil2100> New component?
[09:13] <pstolowski> sil2100, yes
[09:13] <sil2100> pstolowski: done :)
[09:13] <pstolowski> sil2100, thanks!
[09:16] <nerochiaro> balloons: ping
[11:06] <sil2100> rvr: how's the custom tarball testing going so far?
[11:06] <rvr> sil2100: Ongoing
[11:08] <rvr> Ouch
[11:08] <rvr> Photos scopes title is not translated
[11:10] <rvr> cwayne: Photos scope title is not translated to Spanish http://people.canonical.com/~vrruiz/photos-scope.png
[11:10] <rvr> cwayne: This is the custom tarball
[11:10] <sil2100> Strange, the string didn't change, right?
[11:11] <rvr> I don't think so
[11:11] <rvr> "Photos"
[11:11] <rvr> Maybe it's a problem with the language files
[11:15] <rvr> In com.canonical.scopes.photo, only zh_CN locale is shipped
[11:16] <rvr> But apart from the title, other things are translated... hmm
[11:23] <cwayne> rvr, that's bizarre, looking
[11:23] <rvr> sil2100: Yes, that's the problem. photos scope only ships chinese locale
[11:23] <rvr> cwayne: ^
[11:23] <rvr> cwayne: In rtm stable, the locale directory has other languages
[11:25] <cwayne> rvr, think i've found the issue, trying a fix
[11:35] <rvr> cwayne: In Today scope, "Today's events" is not translated to Spanish (at least)
[11:41] <rvr> cwayne: Also in Photos, but hints: "Mostrar tus photos de Facebook" -> "Mostrar tus fotos de Facebook"
[11:42] <cwayne> rvr, that one hasn't changed
[11:42] <cwayne> rvr, found the photos issue
[11:42] <cwayne> rvr, and I've got Mostrar fotos de Facebook now
[11:44] <rvr> Great
[11:45] <rvr> cwayne: "Eventos para hoy"
[11:45] <rvr> cwayne: "Eventos para hoy: 0"
[11:46] <rvr> cwayne: So maybe what it changed is that "Today's events" doesn't display ": 0" if there are zero events
[11:46] <cwayne> rvr, hm, perhaps, I'll poke kyle as soon as he's up
[11:47] <rvr> cwayne: I'm comparing with my own krillin with stable 20
[11:48] <cwayne> good :)
[11:50] <rvr> I only see one photo from Telegram
[11:51] <rvr> cwayne: "Recent Messages from Telegram" also appears untranslated in Today's scope. That will be "Mensajes recientes de Telegram".
[11:55] <cwayne> rvr, thanks, that'll be untranslated as it was just added
[11:57] <rvr> cwayne: Make sure these things are translated before releasing it to stable
[12:22] <rvr> cwayne: Greeter now display "Telegram messages received today: 1"... untranslated. Is it related to the custom tarball?
[12:22] <cwayne> rvr, its from the updated telegram that's in the store
[12:23] <sil2100> Mirv: do you want to assign 61? Since I see you on that row :)
[12:24] * jgdx looks bewildered
[12:24] <cwayne> rvr, quite a bit of telegram isn't translated yet, it's going to the community for translating imminently iirc
[12:24] <rvr> cwayne: I see, those strings were translated by me, but probably the locale file wasn't updated
[12:25] <cwayne> rvr, ah, not sure, youd have to ask karni
[12:25] <rvr> cwayne: Well, everything else looks good
[12:25] <sil2100> Mirv: ok, taking that one then :)
[12:25] <rvr> sil2100: ^
[12:25] <sil2100> Ah
[12:25] <sil2100> jgdx: I think I know why Mirv didn't assign a silo yet
[12:26] <sil2100> jgdx: we have no free vivid silos right now :/
[12:26] <rvr> Hmm
[12:26] <rvr> I got a scoperunner crash at some point
[12:26] <jgdx> sil2100, oh well. There's no rush afaik.
[12:26] <cwayne> rvr, just pushed a fix to photos not shipping translations
[12:26] <rvr> Telegram scope
[12:27] <rvr> ProcCmdline: /usr/lib/arm-linux-gnueabihf/unity-scopes/scoperunner /home/phablet/.local/share/unity-scopes//com.ubuntu.telegram_sctelegram_1.1.2.95/com.ubuntu.telegram_sctelegram.ini
[12:27] <jibel> sil2100, no free silos and only 4 pending request for QA. Are we sure there is nothing else ready for us?
[12:29] <rvr> cwayne: I'm going to reflash to try to reproduce this telegram scope crash
[12:29] <cwayne> rvr, ack, the telegram scope itself didn't change in this release afaik
[12:29] <rvr> cwayne: Ah, ok
[12:47] <sil2100> thostr_, marcustomlinson: hey guys
[12:47] <thostr_> sil2100: hi
[12:48] <sil2100> thostr_, marcustomlinson: I'm looking at the packaging diff for silo 29 - there's one symbol change that makes me a bit worried
[12:49] <sil2100> thostr_, marcustomlinson: the ::internal ones are fine to change, but there's one normal symbol seemingly being removed
[12:50] <sil2100> thostr_, marcustomlinson: unity::scopes::ScopeBase::child_scopes_ordered() seems to be removed, and it seems to be a public namespace
[12:51] <thostr_> sil2100: marcustomlinson is having lunch right now, I'll ping him once he's back
[12:51] <Mirv> sil2100: mm yes I _was_ going to then I switched to another tab and lost myself there :)
[12:51] <sil2100> Thanks
[12:52] <sil2100> Mirv: hehe, no worries, we're anyway full ;)
[12:52] <sil2100> Then I go prepare lunch as well
[12:52] <Mirv> yeah and that too I noticed earlier, still no free silos
[12:52] <Mirv> I wonder if kgunn still needs the MWC silo 000
[12:53] <kgunn> i hate to give it up
[12:53] <kgunn> is there serious need ?
[12:53] <sil2100> It's an important silo, I wouldn't free that one
[12:53] <kgunn> Mirv: are all the silos full, b/c people are in a holding pattern/can't land into vivid ?
[12:53] <sil2100> It has a lot of good features in it
[12:54] <Mirv> ok then, no problem. I was just thinking that probably all those features have not yet landed and will not until vivid+1 starts
[12:54] <rvr> cwayne: Are you creating a new image?
[12:55] <Mirv> kgunn: for various reasons. test silos, SRU:s (that hold the silo unti the whole process is over), fixes that need polishing over and over again, and a couple waiting for QA signoff
[12:55] <cwayne> rvr, yep, just finished, flashing it now
[12:55] <cwayne> with the photos fix
[12:55] <cwayne> 14.09-proposed-customized rev 361
[12:55] <kgunn> kk
[12:55] <kgunn> just curious
[12:58] <Mirv> bfiller: any idea what's the address-book-app at https://launchpad.net/~ci-train-ppa-service/+archive/ubuntu/landing-005/+packages ? there's no line for it
[12:58] <Mirv> bfiller: can it be freed or can you add a line back for it so I can link it to the silo?
[12:59] <Mirv> it's some branch that "Fixed favorite list scroll to the first item."
[12:59] <bfiller> Mirv: it fixes https://bugs.launchpad.net/tangxi/+bug/1426359
[12:59] <bfiller> Mirv: I'm testing it now, hope to release it today
[13:01] <Mirv> bfiller: thanks
[13:02] <Mirv> linked
[13:02] <bfiller> Mirv: thanks
[13:02] <marcustomlinson> sil2100: those symbols are not used by any scopes other than the click scope (hence its inclusion in the silo). This is because those symbols are only in vivid, and scopes are not built against 15.04 sdk as they would not work on rtm then
[13:03] <cwayne> rvr, photos seems fixed in latest rev now :)
[13:04] <rvr> cwayne: 361?
[13:05] <rvr> Yes
[13:05] <rvr> Flashing
[13:05] <cwayne> yep
[13:05] <rvr> cwayne: By the way, congratulations for the spotlight award!
[13:17] <cwayne> rvr, thanks :)
[13:23] <t1mp> cihelp: is this the channel to ask about problems with autolanding?
[13:24] <t1mp> I get this weird failure: /var/lib/jenkins/slaves/cloud-worker-07/workspace/ubuntu-sdk-team-ubuntu-ui-toolkit-staging-vivid-amd64-autolanding does not exist.
[13:24] <t1mp> see the last failed autolanding on https://code.launchpad.net/~tpeeters/ubuntu-ui-toolkit/40-headerVisuals/+merge/254231
[13:25] <cprov> t1mp: yes, you can ask here. I am on this problem already and will provide a workaround soon
[13:26] <t1mp> cprov: ok, thanks. Can you let me know when it is fixed so we can top-approve MRs again?
[13:26] <t1mp> zsombi: ^fyi
[13:27] <cprov> t1mp: sure
[13:27] <t1mp> thanks
[13:29] <om26er> tedg, Hi!
[13:29] <om26er> tedg, what does this change[1] fix ? [1] https://code.launchpad.net/~ted/indicator-messages/verify-before-parse/+merge/250062
[13:32] <tedg> om26er, Nothing known, it was a case discovered on code review.
[13:32] <dobey> cihelp: any idea why armhf jenkins is having all sort sof problems with umount? cf: https://jenkins.qa.ubuntu.com/job/unity-scope-click-vivid-armhf-ci/35/consoleFull
[13:32] <om26er> tedg, so we should just run the test plan ?
[13:33] <om26er> tedg, whats the potential issue that could be without that change ?
[13:33] <sil2100> marcustomlinson: ok, I trust your word then
[13:34] <cprov> dobey: I will look into it
[13:36] <rvr> tedg: This is RTM proposed customized http://people.canonical.com/~vrruiz/indicator-messages-missed-call.png
[13:37] <rvr> tedg: On rtm stable, "missed call" appears translated
[13:39] <oSoMoN> trainguards: to add a MR to an existing silo, do I need to reconfigure it?
[13:39] <sil2100> oSoMoN: yes, the train only notices new merges after a reconfigure
[13:40] <oSoMoN> sil2100, thx! I’ll need a reconfigure in a moment, then
[13:40] <sil2100> oSoMoN: if you added a new merge to an existing project in the silo then you can reconfigure yourself
[13:40] <oSoMoN> excellent, I won’t have to bother you then
[13:43] <oSoMoN> sil2100, silo 27 has webbrowser-app branches, but no corresponding line in the CI train spreadsheet, should I re-create it?
[13:45] <Mirv> oSoMoN: yes please, I'll sync it then properly
[13:45] <Mirv> bfiller: same for your landing-030 / syncevolution, also missing a line from spreadsheet
[13:45] <om26er> renatu, ping
[13:45] <renatu> om26er, pong
[13:45] <rvr> tedg: Does that message come from the telephony stack?
[13:46] <om26er> renatu, re: silo5 if I expand a favorite, then scroll the view up, the expanded contact contracts
[13:47] <Mirv> oSoMoN: bfiller: I added lines 65 and 66 for you, just fill in description, test plan and MP:s
[13:47] <oSoMoN> Mirv, doing, thanks!
[13:47] <renatu> om26er, yes this is expected
[13:48] <rvr> cwayne: Image looks good, except for "Today's Events" being untranslated, which is quite visible
[13:49] <rvr> cwayne: And "Recent Messages from Telegram"
[13:49] <rvr> Both of that are in Today's scope
[13:50] <cwayne> rvr, got kyle looking at Today's Events issue
[13:51] <bfiller> Mirv: thanks
[13:52] <oSoMoN> Mirv, I filled in line 65, does it require any special action from you before I reconfigure it? (I added a MR)
[13:54] <sil2100> oSoMoN: it was probably lost in the spreadsheet maddness...
[13:57] <Mirv> oSoMoN: nothing special needed since I linked it to the silo already as can be seen in the Status field
[13:57] <oSoMoN> okay, reconfiguring
[14:02] <tedg> om26er, It could get a bad dbus message from the bus and try to parse it. There shouldn't be any since they come from our lib, but eh, not impossible that someone would throw junk on dbus.
[14:02] <tedg> rvr, indicator-messages doesn't have the visible strings in it, they're all in the telephony stuff.
[14:03] <rvr> tedg: Yeah, I think it should be in telephone-service, I'm checking, thanks
[14:08] <om26er> tedg, ok can we have a unit test ? :p
[14:11] <tedg> om26er, Not sure how we'd add a test to test adding an additional test.
[14:12] <cwayne> rvr, found the today's events issue, fix incoming
[14:12] <rvr> cwayne: Wee!
[14:27] <ogra_> Mirv is greedy today ... wanting three silos for one landing :)
[14:29] <davmor2> ogra_: I wouldn't assign him one on grounds of greed
[14:29] <ogra_> depends what he pays
[14:30] <Mirv> :)
[14:30] <ogra_> i think five kittens to davmor2 would be a good price for three silos
[14:30] <Mirv> too bad there are zero free silos
[14:31] <Mirv> and people before me with requests. well there's always tomorrow.
[14:31] <davmor2> Mirv: How about a game of Global Thermo-nuclear War while you wait?
[14:32] <om26er> renatu, can we have a test for that bug fix ?
[14:33] <renatu> om26er, I can add a test plan
[14:37] <renatu> om26er, a unit test or autopilot for it will be very complex since this involves the most called contacts model which uses info from history model
[14:40] <om26er> renatu, right, I still think we can write an autopilot test for this with some fiddling, we just need a pre-populated list of 'Recently called' and a few favorites
[14:53] <renatu> om26er, I do not see how to do that without using history model or changing the code
[14:53] <renatu> I can change the code to make the test possible
[14:54] <renatu> but this will involves a big MR and some more time
[14:56] <om26er> renatu, I am inquiring jibel to see if we can land it without an automated test.
[14:56] <om26er> seems he is in a meeting
[14:58] <renatu> om26er, ok thanks
[15:01] <cwayne> rvr, building, should be done in 10 mins or so
[15:01] <rvr> cwayne: Ack
[15:07] <om26er> pedronis, Hi!
[15:08] <om26er> pedronis, If I am not looking at the wrong thing, most of the code change here[1] is test code ? [1] https://code.launchpad.net/~pedronis/ubuntu-push/automatic-land-to-vivid/+merge/255060
[15:09] <pedronis> om26er: no, but we change our unit tests when we change other things
[15:10] <pedronis> it may well be that unit tests are bigger than actual code
[15:14] <cwayne> rvr, 362 is ready
[15:14] <pedronis> om26er: most of this changes have landed already on RTM, you tested there even, the only big new change here is how we detect if a notification for a new system update is really for something we don't have yet... the instruction in the pastebin explain how to test that plus double checking interaction with flight mode because maybe rtm/vivid is different there
[15:15] <om26er> pedronis, ok, I get that.
[15:15] <om26er> pedronis, perhaps the flight-mode thing should be added here https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Process/Merges/TestPlan/ubuntu-push ?
[15:18] <rvr> cwayne: Flashing
[15:19] <pedronis> om26er: yes, we may add something more permanent there after this landing/before the next landing
[15:23] <jhodapp> sil2100, vivid silo 12 is ready to land
[15:38] <sil2100> jhodapp: o/
[15:38] <sil2100> I was in a meeting
[15:39] <jhodapp> sil2100, np
[15:50] <ogra_> sil2100, do we meet today or do you turn into bruce lee because it is tue. ?
[15:50] <sil2100> ogra_: we have a meeting, I have too much work to bruce lee today
[15:50] <ogra_> oki
[15:54] <rvr> cwayne: "Today's events" now appears translated. But "Recent Messages from Telegram" still need translation.
[15:57] <sil2100> ugh
[15:57] <sil2100> What's up with those missing translations? Did the original strings change?
[15:59] <rvr> sil2100: New string
[15:59] <rvr> sil2100: Today scope added a feature to display recent messages from Telegram
[15:59] <cwayne> sil2100, rvr its a new string, so not a regression
[15:59] <cwayne> yeah
[16:00] <jhodapp> sil2100, are you able to publish silo 12?
[16:00] <rvr> cwayne: Is not a regression, but if we ship this, someone who speaks German or Spanish will see something in English, and it's not good
[16:00] <sil2100> jhodapp: it's published, isn't it?
[16:01] <jhodapp> let me check
[16:01] <jhodapp> sil2100, ah yes sorry, sneaky ;)
[16:01] <jhodapp> sil2100, thank you
[16:01] <sil2100> No worries :)
[16:02] <cwayne> rvr, right, but quite a bit of telegram is already untranslated
[16:02] <rvr> cwayne: But this is not Telegram, but Today scope
[16:06] <cwayne> rvr, right but its a feature of telegram
[16:07] <cwayne> rvr, we could get google-translated bits in I suppose, would that work?
[16:07] <ogra_> cwayne, i think we need a process for this for the future ... and should (in future releases) block on missing translations
[16:16] <cwayne> rvr, what would the proper translation be in spanish? we'll get a click with at the very least spanish german and french
[16:16] <rvr> cwayne: "Mensajes recientes de Telegram"
[16:26] <cwayne> ogra_, could I bother you for a German translation? :)
[16:27] <jibel> renatu, please add a rationale to the card why this landing doesn't need automated tests
[16:28] <ogra_> cwayne, "Letzte Nachrichten von Telegram"
[16:28] <renatu> jibel, which card?
[16:29] <jibel> renatu, the one om26er blocked https://trello.com/c/zrxlClEZ/1329-ubuntu-landing-005-address-book-app-bfiller
[16:29] <renatu> jibel, is a test-plan enough? I can write a test plan if this is ok
[16:29] <jibel> renatu, or on the spreadsheet if you don't have acess to trello
[16:30] <ogra_> cwayne, or "Letzte Telegram Nachrichten" (shorter)
[16:30] <jibel> renatu, if you can write a test case on the test plan, it can probably be automated isn't it?
[16:30] <jibel> if it cannot be, just explain why
[16:31] <renatu> jibel, for sure it can be automated but will require a lot of effort
[16:33] <rvr> cwayne: I was pinging mardy and tsdgeos for Italian and Catalan, but no response
[16:34] <cwayne> rvr, i got them from google in the meantime, and comparing to what we have for just "Recent Messages" they seem correct
[16:34] <cwayne> basically variations of "de Telegram" so far :)
[16:36] <rvr> Latin languages in the end, very similar
[16:36] <cwayne> yep
[16:36] <cwayne> generally I'd prefer not to use a tool like google, but for something like this I think it's ok tbh
[16:40] <pedronis> trainguards: not sure what kind of packaging change is referred to about in silo 006, what should I do?
[16:42] <robru> pedronis: no worries, looks like Mirv already took care of it
[16:42] <pedronis> thanks
[16:43] <robru> You're welcome
[16:58] <tsdgeos> rvr: cwayne_: i'm here now
[17:00] <rvr> tsdgeos: How do you translate "Recent messages from Telegram" to Catalan?
[17:03] <rvr> cwayne_: "Missatges recents del Telegram" -> Catalan
[17:03] <rvr> Thanks to tsdgeos
[17:04] <cwayne_> rvr, ack, thanks
[17:12] <cwayne_> rvr, kicking a build now
[17:13] <rvr> cwayne_: Great. I'll try to take a look this night or tomorrow morning, as is EOD here.
[17:13] <cprov> t1mp: the problem with cloud-worker-07 is fixed, https://jenkins.qa.ubuntu.com/job/autopilot-vivid-i386-ci/103/console. Can you please retry your jobs ?
[17:18] <cwayne_> rvr, ok, but so you're +1 on everything else, that was the last blocking bug right?
[17:18] <rvr> cwayne_: Right
[17:19] <cwayne_> sil2100, ^
[17:19] <cwayne_> is there anyone that could +1 the build when it's done? it'd be good to have it in tonight so that it gets even more testing throughout tomorrow
[17:25] <sil2100> cwayne_: only the translations changed, right?
[17:29] <cwayne_> sil2100, between what rvr tested earlier today and this build yep
[17:30] <sil2100> Not sure how much testing would be needed for that, if it's just string translation changes I guess there's nothing that could regress, right?
[17:30] <sil2100> jibel: ^ ? How should we proceed? Should someone like davmor2 or ToyKeeper take a look at it still?
[17:32] <cwayne_> if worst case is we have to wait for rvr tomorrow that's fine, I just figure you guys will have a lot going on tomorrow :)
[17:33] <rvr> cwayne_: I'll do it this night, but it will be late, no sooner than 10 PM UTC
[17:34] <rvr> Now I have to go, see you later
[17:41] <pmcgowan> cwayne_, is this the new custom tarball? we really need that in tonight
[17:41] <cwayne_> pmcgowan, yeap
[18:08] <cprov> dobey: around ?
[18:08] <dobey> hi
[18:17] <cprov> dobey: regarding the armhf failures on autopilot, it seems the some xvfb-run children are left behind and hold the pbuilder shm/
[18:17] <dobey> i commented in the other channel already :)
[18:18] <cprov> oh I see, sorry, too many tabs
[18:18] <dobey> cprov: thanks for looking into it :)
[18:19] <cprov> dobey: fginther sorted it out, I've not done much.
[18:20] <mardy> rvr: I'm here, just briefly
[18:21] <sil2100> o/
[18:38] <robru> cihelp: anybody have a few minutes to review https://code.launchpad.net/~robru/uci-engine/experimentation/+merge/255120 ? Not finished yet but need some guidance before I sink too much time into this. thanks
[19:11] <robru> rsalveti: whoa, that's quite the diff
[19:12] <robru> mterry: around for a packaging ack? need two, https://ci-train.ubuntu.com/job/ubuntu-landing-024-2-publish/lastSuccessfulBuild/artifact/indicator-datetime_packaging_changes.diff/*view*/ and https://ci-train.ubuntu.com/job/ubuntu-landing-028-2-publish/lastSuccessfulBuild/artifact/libhybris_packaging_changes.diff/*view*/
[19:21] <t1mp> cprov: great, thanks. I will try the jobs again
[19:27] <rsalveti> robru: for libhybris?
[19:28] <robru> rsalveti: yeah
[19:28] <robru> rsalveti: diff-within-a-diff thing going on there, really hard to read
[19:28] <rsalveti> robru: the diff itself is minimal, I think the rest is just noise because of the new git-buildpackage version I used when creating the package
[19:29] <rsalveti> https://code-review.phablet.ubuntu.com/gitweb?p=ubuntu/libhybris.git;a=commitdiff;h=dae292c01471a1c5994c3e17befb90990cbef867;hp=0ecf8ff1f32b0ce360a1b4bc31560e9e4e19def8
[19:29] <rsalveti> the real diff
[19:29] <rsalveti> let me publish that
[19:30] <rsalveti> done
[19:30] <robru> rsalveti: uhhh, you sure? there's lots going on in the silo diff that doesn't look like what you just linked
[19:30] <rsalveti> robru: yup, I manually checked the diff by extracting the previous and the new version
[19:31] <rsalveti> the problem of that huge diff is because it's a diff of the diff
[19:33] <rsalveti> robru: http://paste.ubuntu.com/10765679/
[19:33] <rsalveti> robru: extracting both and then removing the debian directory from both
[19:33] <rsalveti> to avoid diff from the diff
[19:34] <robru> rsalveti: silo diff shows a "+ sysconf.c" which doesn't seem to be in your diff
[19:37] <rsalveti> robru: that's because it wasn't changed
[19:38] <robru> rsalveti: lol, then why is it in the silo diff? clearly it changed ;-)
[19:38] <rsalveti> robru: as I said, it's a diff of the diff, it seems it changed the patch format it used
[19:38] <rsalveti> and reorganized a bunch of diff blocks
[19:39] <rsalveti> just extract both versions and check as I did
[19:39] <rsalveti> debian-changes is a patch by itself, that packaging change is a diff from the patch
[19:39] <rsalveti> which is why it's so confusing
[19:40] <robru> rsalveti: oooooh sorry, it does indeed have a corresponding - section that matches the + section I'm seeing. weird, whatever generated the diff changed the order...
[19:40] <rsalveti> yup
[19:51] <robru> alex-abreu: you sure you need two silos? there are only 2 left, would be great if you could combine that into one silo
[19:51] <alex-abreu> robru, ah yes I could sure
[19:52] <alex-abreu> robru, ok updated
[19:54] <robru> alex-abreu: thanks
[20:18] <charles> trainguards, who should I ask about manually acking the packaging changes in silo 24?
[20:18] <robru> charles: any core dev can do it. sorry I tried to find somebody earlier but my go-to guys aren't around
[20:30] <charles> robru, is there an easy link for the packaging changes?
[20:30] <robru> charles: yeah, https://ci-train.ubuntu.com/job/ubuntu-landing-024-2-publish/lastSuccessfulBuild/artifact/indicator-datetime_packaging_changes.diff/*view*/ which is accessible from both the build & publish jobs in jenkins
[20:31] <charles> robru, thanks :-)
[20:31] <robru> charles: you're welcome
[20:32] <mterry> robru, for that job, +1
[20:32] <mterry> robru, sorry I didn't reply earlier
[20:32] <mterry> robru, I even opened it in a tab and forgot
[20:32] * mterry looks at other silo
[20:33] <robru> mterry: thanks! Dummy work about 28 though
[20:33] <mterry> robru, yeah 28 is fine too
[20:33] <robru> Buh
[20:34] <robru> mterry: thanks, "don't worry" about 28, rsalveti got it already
[20:34] <mterry> k
[20:36] <robru> charles: OK published, sorry for the delay there
[20:37] <charles> \o/
[20:37] <charles> I'll need to sync the silo 8 changes to this, will rebuild the silo after that
[23:26] <elopio> ping cihelp: what is the process to add autolanding to a branch?
[23:26] <elopio> we want to have it here: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu-power-tests
[23:50] <cwayne_> rvr, you around?
[23:50] <rvr> cwayne_: Around
[23:50] <cwayne_> rvr, did you check out the updated image by any chance?
[23:50] <rvr> cwayne_: I checked the image, and found "My Telegram photos" untranslated on the Photos scope :(
[23:51] <rvr> cwayne_: That is less visible than Today's scope
[23:51] <cwayne_> ah, shit, that's also a new string
[23:53] <rvr> cwayne_: That should read "Mis fotos de Telegram" in Spanish
[23:55] <cwayne_> rvr, isnt the title just "Photos from Telegram"
[23:55] <rvr> cwayne_: Yes
[23:56] <rvr> cwayne_: Right, "My photos" is for Facebook
[23:56] <rvr> (which is also untranslated)
[23:57] <cwayne_> that one is bad, that should be translated already
[23:59] <cwayne_> rvr, looking to see what happened -- will get a fix in (hopefully tonight for your morning)
[23:59] <rvr> cwayne_: Ack!
|
ubuntu-chat
|
2024-05-13T22:11:15.825235
| 2015-04-07T00:00:00 |
{
"license": "Public Domain",
"authors": [
"Mirv",
"abeato",
"alex-abreu",
"bfiller",
"charles",
"cprov",
"cwayne",
"cwayne_",
"davmor2",
"dobey",
"elopio",
"imgbot",
"jgdx",
"jhodapp",
"jibel",
"kgunn",
"marcustomlinson",
"mardy",
"mterry",
"nerochiaro",
"oSoMoN",
"ogra_",
"om26er",
"pedronis",
"pmcgowan",
"pstolowski",
"renatu",
"robru",
"rsalveti",
"rvr",
"sil2100",
"t1mp",
"tedg",
"thostr_",
"tsdgeos"
],
"url": "https://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2015/04/07/%23ubuntu-ci-eng.txt",
"channel": "#ubuntu-ci-eng"
}
|
2015-04-07-#ubuntu-translators
|
[18:04] <eyfour> Any ideas why ppa:ubuntu-langpack/ppa has not been building any packages in the last 4 weeks?
|
ubuntu-chat
|
2024-05-13T22:11:15.828805
| 2015-04-07T00:00:00 |
{
"license": "Public Domain",
"authors": [
"eyfour"
],
"url": "https://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2015/04/07/%23ubuntu-translators.txt",
"channel": "#ubuntu-translators"
}
|
2015-04-07-#ubuntu-si
|
[05:50] <zdobbie> .status github.com
[05:51] <zdobbie> .pomoc
[05:51] <zdobbie> .stran github.com
[05:51] <jabuk> github.com je dosegljiva!
[05:51] <zdobbie> BS
[06:26] <napsy> jutro
[06:26] <zdobersek> hoi
[07:28] <idioterna> http://reventlov.com/advisories/using-the-docker-command-to-root-the-host
[07:28] <Seniorita> Using the docker command to root the host (totally not a security issue) // reventlov's silly hacks
[07:32] <idioterna> http://www.stellarwebsolutions.com/en/articles/eshoplifting.php is nice, too
[07:32] <Seniorita> stellarwebsolutions.com: eShoplifting - Exploiting Common eCommerce Applications
[07:32] <Seniorita> »Stellar Web Solutions is a leading provider of web applications development and computer network systems consulting. Perl CGI, SQL databases, custom web development«
[07:34] <idioterna> and a lethal one
[07:34] <idioterna> https://ics-cert.us-cert.gov/advisories/ICSA-15-090-03
[07:34] <Seniorita> Hospira MedNet Vulnerabilities | ICS-CERT
[07:34] <Seniorita> »OVERVIEWIndependent researcher Billy Rios has identified four vulnerabilities in Hospira’s MedNet server software. Hospira has released a new version of the MedNet software and provided mitigation recommendations that mitigate the reported vulnerabilities.Three of the four vulnerabilities could be exploited remotely.AFFECTED PRODUCTSThe following MedNet software versions are affected:«
[08:56] <upd> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B_tYh9zsIO0 crazy
[08:56] <Seniorita> Brutal WWE Moves On Girls - YouTube
[08:56] <Seniorita> »Performing WWE wrestling moves/finishers on girls. BEHIND THE SCENES: http://youtu.be/1NsWWPpAa_I Twitter: https://twitter.com/joe_weller_ Facebook: https://...«
[08:57] <CrazyLemon> girls on girls?
[08:58] <upd> hh
[09:08] <zdobersek> CrazyLemon: more like 99% on op
[09:12] <idioterna> i am the 1%
[09:14] <napsy> uh
[09:14] <napsy> girl on girl action
[09:16] <idioterna> ou ca?
[09:26] <yang> .vreme lj
[09:26] <jabuk> ARSO: Ljubljana (299m): 9°C @07.04.2015 9:00 UTC.
[09:26] <jabuk> Vlažnost: 28% severovzhodnik 6.8 m/s pretežno jasno
[09:26] <jabuk> Sončni vzhod: 04:32:19, Kulminacija: 11:05:10, Sončni zahod: 17:38:01
[09:26] <jabuk> Dan je dolg: 13ur 05min 42s, Luna je v ščipu
[09:27] <idioterna> kr mocn severovzhodnik
[09:27] <idioterna> grem rajs skoz crnuce dons
[09:27] <dz0ny> .apt python-virtualenv
[09:27] <jabuk> python-virtualenv {lucid (10.04LTS), precise (12.04LTS), trusty (14.04LTS), utopic, vivid}
[09:29] <Seniorita> [Web Upd8] Andrew: Enable Client Side Decorations For Rhyhmbox With `Alternative Toolbar` Plugin http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/webupd8/~3/TO1_UGJoYXM/enable-client-side-decorations-for.html
[09:29] <jabuk> everything working fine on dev, deploying to production http://i.imgur.com/QKNHQhU.gif
[09:38] <napsy> http://zeta.si/page/SameSexMarriage
[09:38] <Seniorita> zeta -
[09:38] <napsy> neki za miha
[09:38] <napsy> :-)
[09:41] <zdobersek> cc primc
[09:43] <zdobersek> http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2015/04/150406144600.htm
[09:43] <Seniorita> Facebook use linked to depressive symptoms -- ScienceDaily
[09:43] <Seniorita> »The social media site, Facebook, can be an effective tool for connecting with new and old friends. However, some users may find themselves spending quite a bit of time viewing Facebook and may inevitably begin comparing what's happening in their lives to the activities and accomplishments of their friends.«
[09:47] <dz0ny> .apt sqlite3-dev
[09:47] <jabuk> lua-dbi-sqlite3-dev {trusty (14.04LTS), utopic, vivid}
[09:47] <jabuk> libsqlite3-dev {lucid (10.04LTS), precise (12.04LTS), trusty (14.04LTS), utopic, vivid}
[09:47] <jabuk> liblua5.1-sql-sqlite3-dev {lucid (10.04LTS), precise (12.04LTS)}
[09:47] <jabuk> libkaya-sqlite3-dev {lucid (10.04LTS), precise (12.04LTS), trusty (14.04LTS), utopic, vivid}
[09:47] <jabuk> libghc6-hsql-sqlite3-dev {lucid (10.04LTS), precise (12.04LTS)}
[09:47] <jabuk> libghc6-hdbc-sqlite3-dev {lucid (10.04LTS), precise (12.04LTS)}
[09:47] <jabuk> libghc6-haskelldb-hdbc-sqlite3-dev {lucid (10.04LTS), precise (12.04LTS)}
[09:47] <jabuk> libghc-hsql-sqlite3-dev {precise (12.04LTS), trusty (14.04LTS), utopic, vivid}
[09:47] <jabuk> libghc-hdbc-sqlite3-dev {precise (12.04LTS), trusty (14.04LTS), utopic, vivid}
[09:47] <CrazyLemon> zdobersek happy?
[09:47] <jabuk> libghc-haskelldb-hdbc-sqlite3-dev {precise (12.04LTS), trusty (14.04LTS), utopic, vivid}
[09:47] <zdobersek> CrazyLemon: not depressed
[09:47] <CrazyLemon> zdobersek but not happy?
[09:47] <zdobersek> .gif maybe maybe not
[09:47] <jabuk> http://media.giphy.com/media/g8Bwo7xPLmbOo/giphy.gif
[09:48] <dz0ny> ups
[09:49] <dz0ny> sudo fstrim -v /mnt/ssd/
[09:49] <dz0ny> /mnt/ssd/: 8,9 GiB (9492434944 bytes) trimmed
[09:56] <CrazyLemon> .rt
[09:56] <jabuk> Trenutno se predvaja: Sufjan Stevens - Should have known better.
[09:58] <zdobersek> aye
[09:59] <yang> http://jp.si/FSF/FSF-letter.jpg
[10:33] <Seniorita> [Ubuntu Security] USN-2557-1: Firefox vulnerability http://www.ubuntu.com/usn/usn-2557-1/
[10:33] <dz0ny> .yt technicolor beat
[10:33] <jabuk> Oh Wonder - Technicolour Beat (3 minute) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j9FfYWp_d5w ♥10,914 ▶521,588
[10:40] <dz0ny> .yt #88 lo-fang
[10:40] <jabuk> Lo-Fang - #88 (Official Audio) (7 minut) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F9RkMxXvyG8 ♥3,324 ▶485,120
[10:59] <Seniorita> [Ubuntu Security] USN-2556-1: Oxide vulnerabilities http://www.ubuntu.com/usn/usn-2556-1/
[11:14] <Seniorita> [Web Upd8] Andrew: Stay Focused And Boost Your Productivity With Ambient Noise Player http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/webupd8/~3/O3RksRjzaIo/stay-focused-and-boost-your.html
[11:30] <CrazyLemon> http://kamil.hism.ru/posts/about-vrg-and-delete-any-youtube-video-issue.html
[11:30] <Seniorita> How I could delete any video on YouTube | Kamil Hismatullin
[11:30] <Seniorita> »About Vulnerability Research Grants and a little story how I could delete any video on YouTube.«
[12:41] <zdobersek> http://www.delo.si/novice/slovenija/pedagogi.html
[12:41] <Seniorita> Kodeks kršilo 48 novinarjev, urednikov in voditeljev
[12:41] <jabuk> when we get permission to start coding http://i.minus.com/ibz6uzdlHgCGdO.gif
[12:41] <Seniorita> »Pri poročanju o mariborskih pedagogih se mediji niso znali samoomejiti in spoštovati posameznikov. Delo ni med njimi.«
[13:00] <napsy> shoking
[13:13] <dz0ny> http://3d.apps.radioterminal.si/
[13:13] <Seniorita> RT3d Live
[13:33] <CrazyLemon> dz0ny za to potrebuješ i7
[13:33] <CrazyLemon> :D
[13:33] <CrazyLemon> cpu mi je trenutno na 60-70%
[13:33] <CrazyLemon> :)
[13:35] <dz0ny> CrazyLemon: grafično kjer je datum izdelave > 2009+
[13:35] <CrazyLemon> aha my bad..sm mel dev console odprt
[13:35] <dz0ny> yes
[13:35] <CrazyLemon> pa mi je začelo nabijat warninge
[13:35] <dz0ny> that too :)
[13:35] <CrazyLemon> cca. 60k
[13:35] <CrazyLemon> :)
[13:35] <zdobersek> CrazyLemon: graficno, ne apu
[13:35] <CrazyLemon> jah js sm vidu da je cpu ..ker imam cpu monitor ne gpu
[13:35] <CrazyLemon> :)
[13:36] <CrazyLemon> zdaj je med 30 in 40%
[13:40] <dz0ny> tole nja bi blo na odprti kuhni+škisovi :)
[13:40] <zdobersek> tolekaj?
[13:41] <CrazyLemon> rt3d app
[13:42] <zdobersek> z glasbo, al sam animacija?
[13:46] <dz0ny> both
[13:46] <zdobersek> na cem?
[13:47] <zdobersek> (hw)
[13:47] <zdobersek> dz0ny: ^ ?
[13:48] <CrazyLemon> its a secret ok?!
[13:48] <CrazyLemon> pejt na odprto kuhno pa boš vidu
[13:57] <CrazyLemon> It is my intention to compensate you with 30% out of the total money after the transfer for your assistance and the balance shall be my investment in any profitable venture which you will recommend to me as i have no idea about foreign investment.
[13:57] <CrazyLemon> fck yea! easy money!
[14:00] <zdobersek> CrazyLemon: that guy is naive as shit!
[14:00] <CrazyLemon> zdobersek girl!
[14:01] <CrazyLemon> Please permit me to introduce myself, i am Miss Elinah Ibrahim Coulibaly 20 years old female from the Republic of Ivory Coast, West Africa, I'm the Daughter of Late Chief Sgt. Ibrahim Coulibaly (a.k.a General IB ).
[14:01] <zdobersek> IB
[14:03] <CrazyLemon> .imdb hot tub time machine 2
[14:03] <jabuk> Hot Tub Time Machine 2 (2015) 93 min Comedy Sci Fi
[14:03] <jabuk> Ocena: 5.1/10 (2,258 glasov) MT: 29/100
[14:03] <jabuk> When Lou finds himself in trouble, Nick and Jacob fire up the hot tub time machine in an attempt to get back to the past. But they inadvertently land in the future with Adam Jr. Now they have to alter the future in order to save the past - which is really the present.
[14:03] <jabuk> Trailer: http://www.imdb.com/video/imdb/vi1370861081/
[14:03] <jabuk> Povezava: http://www.imdb.com/title/tt2637294/
[14:03] <zdobersek> I wouldn't watch that with a stick
[14:04] <CrazyLemon> i'm gonna watch that with a stick
[14:04] <CrazyLemon> if you know what i mean!
[14:05] <zdobersek> the stuff people masturbate to these days ...
[14:06] <CrazyLemon> is that all you think about? masturbation? i was talking about my magic wand
[15:08] <yang> Hitachi magic wand ?
[15:11] <yang> Ibi komm heeer
[15:59] <Seniorita> [Ubuntu Security] USN-2558-1: Mailman vulnerability http://www.ubuntu.com/usn/usn-2558-1/
[16:45] <CrazyLemon> https://stacksocial.com/sales/ibvpn-total-plan-4-yr-subscription?aid=a-qdg54o31
[16:45] <Seniorita> ibVPN Total Plan: 4-Yr Subscription | StackSocial
[16:45] <CrazyLemon> če kdo rabi vpn
[16:45] <CrazyLemon> $60/4y plan
[16:58] <yang> jst kr svoj vpn uporabljam
[16:58] <yang> je pa drazji kot 60 USD na leto
[16:59] <yang> zakaj bi sploh placeval, saj imas lahko TOR
[16:59] <yang> Unblock 165+ TV & radio channels worldwide
[17:00] <yang> kaj mislijo s tem ?
[17:00] <CrazyLemon> to ni 60 USD na leto ampak na 4 leta
[17:00] <yang> ali nudijo ogled TV programov znotraj njihovega sistema ?
[17:01] <yang> pod compatibility pise, da ni za linux
[17:03] <CrazyLemon> ja? pol tudi usb ključ ki ga uporabljaš ne piše da je za linux.. but by the power of magic it still works!
[17:03] * CrazyLemon hides his magic wand
[17:04] <yang> mislim, lahko da imajo samo aplikacijo ki je kompatibilna z windows sistemi
[17:05] <yang> pa tudi dejansko nobene prednosti ni pred tor-om
[17:06] <yang> anonymous vpn pa je glih tolk, kot je njihov ISP anonymous
[17:06] <CrazyLemon> you know you are talking BS right?
[17:07] <yang> which part ?
[17:07] <CrazyLemon> all of it
[17:07] <yang> potem me pa popravi
[17:08] <CrazyLemon> even my magic wand cant fix you
[17:10] <yang> skratka kar majo napisano v description je cisto zavajanje
[17:11] <zdobbie> tozi jih
[17:11] <yang> in vpn si lahko sam uredis preko vsakega shell accounta
[17:11] <yang> ne rabis za to ekstra ponudnikov
[17:12] <CrazyLemon> !g launchpad.net ubuntu-si-www
[17:12] <Seniorita> ok.ubuntu.si in Launchpad https://launchpad.net/ok.ubuntu.si
[17:12] <CrazyLemon> stupid google
[17:13] <yang> sploh pa imas v vecini primerov kvecjemu slabso varnost, ce si preko VPN provajderja povezan, ker tam lahko snoopajo tvoj celoten traffic (isto kot na primarnem linku)
[17:14] <yang> to je prblizn tko kot da bi verjel Googlovim storitvam, da nic ne logirajo
[17:14] <yang> bol varen si ce haknes nek random server pa si preko njega speljes vpn
[17:16] <yang> pa nihce (recimo) ne bo vedel, da imas dostop tam
[17:16] <zdobersek> varen v prekrsku
[17:17] <yang> ja ampak VPN provajder lahko logira povezave, zato to da pisejo da je anonymous je brezpredmetno
[17:17] <yang> lahko jih seveda ne logirajo
[17:17] <yang> ampak tega ne mores vedet
[17:20] <zdobersek> sej ti lahko logirajo tud tvoj shekan server
[17:20] <yang> seveda
[17:21] <zdobersek> pa nekok nima smisla met VPN, ce si edini na njem
[17:21] <yang> ampak lazje logiras promet 1000 strank ki so se prijavile na tvoj servis
[17:22] <yang> ker to je v bistvu SaaSS
[17:22] <yang> nekdo ti nudi storitev
[17:23] <zdobersek> ayup
[17:24] <yang> mislim sej ok, samo SaaSS ni anonimen.
[17:24] <yang> https://www.gnu.org/philosophy/who-does-that-server-really-serve.html
[17:24] <Seniorita> Who Does That Server Really Serve?- GNU Project - Free Software Foundation
[17:28] <CrazyLemon> fckin google
[17:28] <CrazyLemon> in google+
[17:29] <zdobersek> CrazyLemon: still using Google+?
[17:29] <CrazyLemon> zdobersek of course!
[17:29] <CrazyLemon> its the new facebook!
[17:30] <CrazyLemon> ampak zdaj mi google+ na ubuntusi strani ponudi da 'dokončam svoj profil' in potrdim ubuntu.si kot spletno mesto za našo stran
[17:30] <CrazyLemon> in mi ponudi navodila kjer dodam link "plus.google.com/+UbuntuSi"
[17:30] <CrazyLemon> in potem teži..da ne more najt tega linka na strani
[17:30] <zdobersek> CrazyLemon: DON'T DO IT
[17:31] <CrazyLemon> v bistvu.. pa moraš uporabit svoj pageID in ne to kar pišejo v navodilih!
[17:31] <CrazyLemon> stupid google
[17:31] <CrazyLemon> zdobersek anyway
[17:31] <CrazyLemon> merida.. any thoughts?
[17:32] <zdobersek> CrazyLemon: MORE BIKE
[17:33] <CrazyLemon> zdobersek any clearer thoughts?
[17:33] <zdobersek> MY BIKE WAS BUILT TO WIN THIS FIGHT
[17:33] <zdobersek> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ph1Y5VXmHEo
[17:33] <Seniorita> MERIDA TV Spot 2014 (Eurosport) - YouTube
[17:33] <zdobersek> MAXIMUM SPEEEEED
[17:33] <CrazyLemon> ahh
[17:33] <CrazyLemon> to je nonstop na eurosportu
[17:34] <CrazyLemon> ampak ja.. ni full carbon sadly :(
[17:36] <zdobersek> no comment
[17:36] <CrazyLemon> fine!
[17:36] <jabuk> http://thelavisshow.files.wordpress.com/2012/06/victorya.jpg
[17:36] <idioterna> login eh?
[17:37] <CrazyLemon> fine?
[17:37] <jabuk> http://thelavisshow.files.wordpress.com/2012/06/victorya.jpg
[17:37] <zdobersek> yang: all yours
[17:37] <CrazyLemon> We couldn't find any code matching 'fine'
[17:38] <zdobersek> fin
[17:38] <jabuk> http://rack.0.mshcdn.com/media/ZgkyMDEzLzA4LzA1L2RiL3RvbWZlbGRvbi41NmRjNi5naWYKcAl0aHVtYgk4NTB4NTkwPgplCWpwZw/05cd12cc/645/tom-feldon.jpg
[17:38] <CrazyLemon> fi
[17:38] <CrazyLemon> hmm
[17:38] <zdobersek> fififfin
[17:38] <zdobersek> c'est le fin
[17:38] <zdobersek> finlandia
[17:38] <jabuk> http://danceswithfat.files.wordpress.com/2011/08/victory.jpg
[17:38] <CrazyLemon> We couldn't find any code matching 'fin'
[17:38] <zdobersek> fintastic
[17:38] <jabuk> http://thejointblog.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/04/victory.jpg
[17:38] <zdobersek> fino
[17:38] <jabuk> http://rack.3.mshcdn.com/media/ZgkyMDEzLzA4LzA1LzFmL2hhcnJ5cG90dGVyLjYxNjYzLmdpZgpwCXRodW1iCTg1MHg1OTA-CmUJanBn/db79fc85/147/harry-potter.jpg
[17:39] <zdobersek> HEYEAEEYAEYAYAHAHA
[17:39] <zdobersek> FINLAND BEST LAND
[17:39] <jabuk> http://rack.3.mshcdn.com/media/ZgkyMDEzLzA4LzA1L2JmL2hpbXltLjU4YTEyLmdpZgpwCXRodW1iCTg1MHg1OTA-CmUJanBn/90a990f6/b38/himym.jpg
[17:39] <zdobersek> ^ Nazi much?
[17:39] <CrazyLemon> why the fck matcha fin
[17:40] <CrazyLemon> fin win
[17:40] <jabuk> http://img.pandawhale.com/86036-victory-dance-gif-Despicable-M-EPnS.gif
[17:42] <CrazyLemon> in
[17:42] <CrazyLemon> plin
[17:42] <CrazyLemon> hm
[17:42] <CrazyLemon> sin ?
[17:42] <jabuk> http://cdn-media.hollywood.com/images/l/victory_620_080712.jpg
[17:42] <CrazyLemon> to je pa en zanimiv bug :D
[17:45] <zdobersek> show me the regex and I'll show you the problem
[17:46] <CrazyLemon> problem je v /^\win
[17:46] <CrazyLemon> \w
[17:46] <CrazyLemon> lin
[17:46] <jabuk> http://www.quickmeme.com/img/ea/ea4671998341d9fbb6f7815394b49cb2890a50ac80b62802fb021c147c068d8e.jpg
[17:46] <zdobersek> bin
[17:46] <jabuk> http://www.gifbin.com/bin/20048442yu.gif
[17:46] <zdobersek> xin
[17:46] <jabuk> http://rack.0.mshcdn.com/media/ZgkyMDEzLzA4LzA1L2ViL2hpZ2hzY2hvb2xtLjI4YjJhLmdpZgpwCXRodW1iCTg1MHg1OTA-CmUJanBn/4755556e/b82/high-school-musical-victory.jpg
[17:46] <zdobersek> pin
[17:46] <jabuk> http://www.quickmeme.com/img/30/300ace809c3c2dca48f2f55ca39cbab24693a9bd470867d2eb4e869c645acd42.jpg
[17:46] <zdobersek> gin'n'tequila
[17:46] <jabuk> http://rack.3.mshcdn.com/media/ZgkyMDEzLzA4LzA1L2QwL2JyYWRwaXR0LmJjMmQyLmdpZgpwCXRodW1iCTg1MHg1OTA-CmUJanBn/1a5a0c57/968/brad-pitt.jpg
[17:47] <zdobersek> zing!
[17:47] <jabuk> http://rack.3.mshcdn.com/media/ZgkyMDEzLzA4LzA1L2QwL2JyYWRwaXR0LmJjMmQyLmdpZgpwCXRodW1iCTg1MHg1OTA-CmUJanBn/1a5a0c57/968/brad-pitt.jpg
[17:47] <CrazyLemon> see.. you are not the only one with a couple of eyes!
[18:34] <CrazyLemon> sin?
[18:34] <CrazyLemon> oh snap
[18:34] <CrazyLemon> its a
[18:34] <CrazyLemon> win win
[18:34] <jabuk> http://www.quickmeme.com/img/ea/ea4671998341d9fbb6f7815394b49cb2890a50ac80b62802fb021c147c068d8e.jpg
[18:48] <zdobbie> won own
[18:48] <zdobbie> won won
[19:10] <upd> http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-32202768 ohoho
[19:10] <Seniorita> Greece Nazi occupation: Athens asks Germany for €279bn - BBC News
[19:10] <Seniorita> »Athens says Germany owes Greece nearly €279bn in war reparations for the Nazi occupation in World War Two.«
[19:44] <zdobersek> ln
[23:26] <jabuk> M 1.2 > 17.km SV od KARLOVCA (HRVAŠKA) @08/04/2015 01:14:46 https://maps.google.com/?q=45.63+N,+15.65+E
|
ubuntu-chat
|
2024-05-13T22:11:15.850049
| 2015-04-07T00:00:00 |
{
"license": "Public Domain",
"authors": [
"CrazyLemon",
"Seniorita",
"dz0ny",
"idioterna",
"jabuk",
"napsy",
"upd",
"yang",
"zdobbie",
"zdobersek"
],
"url": "https://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2015/04/07/%23ubuntu-si.txt",
"channel": "#ubuntu-si"
}
|
2015-04-07-#ubuntu-africa
|
[05:58] <Kilos> hi blahdeblah welcome to ubuntu-africa
[05:58] <Kilos> oi
[05:58] <Kilos> morning africa
[16:17] <elacheche> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RMQWnU-nh3U
[16:17] <Kilos> whats that
[16:17] <Kilos> i dont do youtube vids
[16:18] <elacheche> Kilos, it's a live for Ubuntu Community Team Q&A
[16:19] <Kilos> eish pc and internet too slow and mobile data too expensive for me
[16:19] <Kilos> what was interesting
[16:19] <elacheche> Oups..
|
ubuntu-chat
|
2024-05-13T22:11:15.858653
| 2015-04-07T00:00:00 |
{
"license": "Public Domain",
"authors": [
"Kilos",
"elacheche"
],
"url": "https://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2015/04/07/%23ubuntu-africa.txt",
"channel": "#ubuntu-africa"
}
|
2015-04-07-#ubuntu-vn
|
[03:22] <vubuntor464> xin chap
[03:22] <vubuntor464> xin chao
[03:23] <vubuntor464> co ai online khong cho minh hoi ve install ubuntu voi
[03:24] <Stanley00> vubuntor464: bạn có thể gõ tiếng việt được không?
[03:24] <vubuntor464> yes
[03:24] <vubuntor464> Mình đang cài đặt Ubuntu 14 bằng USB, server mình không kết nối internet
[03:25] <vubuntor464> đến phần miror thì không tiếp tục được nữa
[03:25] <n0bawk> bỏ qua phần đó?
[03:25] <n0bawk> bạn down bản net install thì cần phải có internet
[03:25] <n0bawk> còn ko thì phải down nguyên cái bản alternative về
[03:25] <n0bawk> khoảng 800Mb gì đó
[03:26] <vubuntor464> uh mình down bản full
[03:26] <vubuntor464> sau phần chọn language, interface, là đến phần chọn miror server ...,
[03:27] <vubuntor464> nhưng không kết nối internet nên nó không thấy server --> không tiếp tục được
[03:28] <n0bawk> vubuntor464: cái này mình ko nhớ, nhưng mà skip được mà?
[03:28] <n0bawk> trừ khi bạn dùng bản net install mới cần thôi
[03:28] <n0bawk> bạn cứ chọn ko có internet và
[03:28] <n0bawk> và ignore cái đó đi
[03:28] <vubuntor464> mình down ở đây http://www.ubuntu.com/download/server
[03:29] <SuperLuserv3> [ Download Ubuntu Server | Download | Ubuntu ] - www.ubuntu.com
[03:30] <vubuntor464> không được, mới có bước đầu install àh nên không thấy ingnore
[03:33] <MrTuxHdb> vubuntor464: nhớ là đâu có cần internet đâu
[03:33] <MrTuxHdb> trong CD/DVD iso có sẵn package để cài hết rồi mà
[03:37] <vubuntor464> mình cài bằng USB
[03:38] <vubuntor464> bạn có biết cách nào cài đặt từ ổ đĩa cứng luôn không, ý là mình khời động bằng USB sau đó chạy file install tren ổ cứng đấy
[03:38] <vubuntor464> nhưng khi mình extract file .iso thì không biết file nào để install ?
[03:40] <lewtds> cài ubuntu bằng usb?
[03:40] <lewtds> hay cài gì đấy?
[03:41] <vubuntor464> cài ubuntu bằng USB vì server mình không có CD/DVD
[03:42] <MrTuxHdb> sound like windows install style
[03:42] <MrTuxHdb> lol
[03:43] <vubuntor464> what is it mean ??
[03:43] <vubuntor464> install the same window?
[03:44] <MrTuxHdb> :3
[03:44] <MrTuxHdb> cài đặt kiểu đấy giống kiểu cài đặt của Windows hơn
[03:44] <MrTuxHdb> dùng Linux thì hãy cài đặt theo cách của nó
[03:45] <lewtds> bạn cứ cắm usb ubuntu vào, boot vào nó là sẽ thấy hướng dẫn cụ thể mà
[03:45] <vubuntor464> vâng, mình biết, nhưng nó bị rắt rối ngay phần miror server ... mà mình chưa install lần nào nên không biết xử lý ra sao
[03:46] <MrTuxHdb> rắc*
[03:46] <MrTuxHdb> vubuntor464: screenshot
[03:46] <lewtds> sao install nó lại hỏi mirror nhỉ :-?
[03:47] <CoconutCrab> chắc nà update
[03:47] <vubuntor464> miror server, bạn đợi chút mính sẽ làm từng bước
[03:48] <vubuntor464> 1. khởi động bằng USB
[03:49] <vubuntor464> 2. Linux Distributions -->
[03:49] <vubuntor464> 3. ubuntu-14.04-server
[03:49] <vubuntor464> 4.install Ubuntu Server
[03:50] <MrTuxHdb> screenshot
[03:50] <vubuntor464> 5.Select a language : English
[03:50] <vubuntor464> 6.Select your location: Asia\VN
[03:51] <vubuntor464> 7.config locales: United States - en_US.UTF-8
[03:51] <vubuntor464> 8.config the keyboard
[03:52] <vubuntor464> 9.config the network --> fail : do mình không kết nối mạng
[03:52] <vubuntor464> --> do not configure the network at this tiem
[03:52] <Stanley00> vubuntor464: ngay chỗ này có cái nút skip... @@
[03:53] <Stanley00> vubuntor464: chụp cái screenshot đi rồi nói tiếp nhé bạn
[03:53] <vubuntor464> không có nút skip
[03:57] <vubuntor464> các bạn có skype hay gì không, nếu có mình sẽ dùng androi để share hình?
[03:58] <Stanley00> vubuntor464: share lên trang này nhé bạn imgur.com
[04:01] <vubuntor464> mình đưa hình lên rồi nhưng sao bạn xem được?
[04:02] <Stanley00> vubuntor464: dán url vào lại đây
[04:04] <vubuntor464> http://imgur.com/ShSpFxG?desktop=1
[04:04] <SuperLuserv3> [ Imgur ] - imgur.com
[04:04] <vubuntor464> tới phần : choose a mirror of the Ubuntu archive là không tiếp được nữa
[04:07] <Stanley00> vubuntor464: thế khi bạn nhấn enter ở cái hình bên trên, thì cái hình tiếp theo thế nào?
[04:10] <lewtds> server hả?
[04:10] <lewtds> nếu là server thì khuyên nên cài máy ảo
[04:11] <vubuntor464> enter nó sẽ xuống miror
[04:11] <vubuntor464> máy ảo window hay ESX?
[04:12] <vubuntor464> nhưng mình nghĩ máy ảo hay vật lý thì cũng giống nhau :)
[04:12] <lewtds> uah, nhưng nếu cài máy vật lý mà bạn chưa quen thiết lập phân vùng thì dễ mất sạch dữ liệu lắm
[04:13] <vubuntor464> ko sao vì máy mới mà :)
[04:14] <lewtds> (y)
[04:14] <vubuntor464> imgur.com/Q5CmrZB
[04:14] <vubuntor464> nó cứ lặp lại như vậy và không cho tiếp tục nữa
[04:16] <lewtds> dị nhỉ
[04:16] <lewtds> cái này phải hỏi chuyên gia MrTuxHdb
[04:17] <vubuntor464> :)
[04:18] <CoconutCrab> bản iso tải về nặng bao nhiêu mb?
[04:19] <lewtds> yup, có khi iso bị corrupt
[04:19] <vubuntor464> >600M
[04:19] <CoconutCrab> bạn kiểm tra file tải về nguyên vẹn, không corrupt?
[04:20] <vubuntor464> không, mình dowload 3 version ubuntu-12.04.5-server-i386, ubuntu-14.04.2-desktop-amd64, ubuntu-14.04.2-server-amd64
[04:20] <vubuntor464> khi cài đặt đều bị lỗi hết
[04:20] <vubuntor464> chỉ có desktop là mình chưa thử cài thôi
[04:21] <CoconutCrab> thế lúc nó hiện ra cái màn hình đỏ đỏ đó
[04:21] <CoconutCrab> bấm Ctrl-Alt-F4
[04:21] <MrTuxHdb> vubuntor464: vấn đề là bạn cắm cho nó cái network
[04:21] <CoconutCrab> rồi chụp coi sao?
[04:21] <MrTuxHdb> không được à
[04:21] <MrTuxHdb> =))
[04:21] <MrTuxHdb> mirror thì chính xác là nó tự download về thôi
[04:21] <MrTuxHdb> cài ubuntu server trên máy laptop
[04:21] <MrTuxHdb> wtf>
[04:21] <MrTuxHdb> ...
[04:21] <MrTuxHdb> thực hành ?
[04:21] <MrTuxHdb> bài tập lớn?
[04:21] <MrTuxHdb> đồ án?
[04:21] <MrTuxHdb> :v
[04:21] <MrTuxHdb> :v
[04:23] <vubuntor464> khi nhấn Ctrl-Alt-F4 --> xuất hiện giao diện comment với thông báo: miror does not support the spect release ...
[04:24] <CoconutCrab> chụp ảnh đi
[04:26] <MrTuxHdb> screenshot
[04:26] <MrTuxHdb> đù
[04:28] <vubuntor464> http://imgur.com/4vPuaVs
[04:28] <SuperLuserv3> [ Imgur ] - imgur.com
[04:29] <CoconutCrab> precise làm bản 12.04 nhỉ?
[04:29] <n0bawk> hềnh như thế :D
[04:29] <MrTuxHdb> CoconutCrab: vẫn support mà
[04:29] <MrTuxHdb> :D
[04:29] <CoconutCrab> mà cài ubuntu server nó đòi có mirror à?
[04:29] <MrTuxHdb> vubuntor464: đổi mirror đi thôi
[04:29] <MrTuxHdb> có gì đâu
[04:29] <CoconutCrab> theo log là nó không lấy được data
[04:29] <MrTuxHdb> CoconutCrab: theo những gì mới nhất em biết
[04:29] <CoconutCrab> nhưng nếu không lấy được info của repo thì kệ chứ
[04:29] <MrTuxHdb> thì ubuntu server hình như hơi mất dạy
[04:29] <MrTuxHdb> :3
[04:29] <CoconutCrab> vẫn cài được mà nhỉ?
[04:30] <MrTuxHdb> viva debian
[04:30] <CoconutCrab> uh huh
[04:31] <vubuntor464> cài không được, đổi mirror khác nó cũng vậy
[04:31] <CoconutCrab> okay
[04:31] <vubuntor464> mình đang test thử 12. đó
[04:31] <CoconutCrab> vậy cứ cho là ubuntu server nó đòi internet đi
[04:31] <CoconutCrab> thì có 3 lựa chọn
[04:31] <CoconutCrab> 1 là cắm dây mạng vào
[04:32] <vubuntor464> 14,04 cũng y chang àh
[04:32] <CoconutCrab> 2 là cài debian
[04:32] <CoconutCrab> 3 là cài ubuntu desktop
[04:32] <CoconutCrab> ok?
[04:32] <MrTuxHdb> :3
[04:32] <vubuntor464> debiab là gì ??
[04:32] <CoconutCrab> .g debian
[04:32] <MrTuxHdb> .g ubuntu server require internet
[04:32] <SuperLuserv3> CoconutCrab: https://www.debian.org/
[04:32] <SuperLuserv3> MrTuxHdb: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/NetbootInstallFromInternet
[04:32] <CoconutCrab> ^ đó
[04:32] <MrTuxHdb> netboot thì rõ rồi
[04:32] <CoconutCrab> thui cắm dây ấy
[04:32] <CoconutCrab> đằng nào chả phải cắm
[04:32] <MrTuxHdb> vubuntor464: newbie on linux ecosys?
[04:32] <CoconutCrab> server thì phải có client mới serve được chứ
[04:33] <vubuntor464> cắm dây rồi nhưng nó không k ết nối được internet đó
[04:33] <MrTuxHdb> không có DHCP?
[04:35] <CoconutCrab> dzui dzậy
[04:35] <vubuntor464> mính đã thử DHCP và ip tĩnh luôn nhưng vẫn không được :)
[04:36] <CoconutCrab> card mạng của bạn card gì vậy?
[04:36] <vubuntor464> mình nghĩ nó phải download từ internet về
[04:36] <vubuntor464> mình cũng không biết card gì, nhưng nó là server IBM
[04:36] <MrTuxHdb> vubuntor464: IBM hả
[04:36] <MrTuxHdb> thế quên kiểu cài bình thường đi nha
[04:37] <MrTuxHdb> =]]
[04:37] <vubuntor464> , mình cũng có thử lấy cái máy tính HP ra cài, no cũng bị vậy :)
[04:37] <MrTuxHdb> chúc bạn may mắn
[04:37] <MrTuxHdb> tự xử đi
[04:37] <MrTuxHdb> :))
[04:37] <vubuntor464> eo eo
[04:37] <MrTuxHdb> đồ hardware IBM nó thốn lắm
[04:37] <MrTuxHdb> chả khác gì Sun SPARC
[04:38] <vubuntor464> sack... vay la phai tu nghien cuu nua roi :)
[04:38] <n0bawk> có khi do xài windows
[04:38] <n0bawk> nó lock moẹ cái power management lại
[04:38] <n0bawk> phải vào windows tắt power management đi
[04:38] <n0bawk> thốn vãi
[04:38] <vubuntor464> nhưng mình lấy cái PC của nhân viên, cũng cài không được
[04:39] <n0bawk> ko thì phải mở case ra, rồi nốt đất để reset hết cấu hình của bios/card mạng may ra mới ăn thua >:3
[04:39] <MrTuxHdb> vubuntor464: liên quan đến hardware
[04:39] <MrTuxHdb> nó thốn lắm
[04:39] <MrTuxHdb> vubuntor464: :3
[04:39] * n0bawk bị dính vụ này ti tỉ lần rồi
[04:39] <vubuntor464> phải vào windows tắt power management đi --> cái này là gì
[04:39] <MrTuxHdb> đi ăn đi đã haha
[04:39] <vubuntor464> PC và server mới tinh mà
[04:39] <n0bawk> !network
[04:40] <vubuntor464> hahhhaha ok, cám ơn mấy a support nhe
[04:40] <n0bawk> !network-pm
[04:40] <vubuntor464> bye bye
[04:40] <n0bawk> vubuntor464: trước đây có cài windows vào chưa?
[04:41] <vubuntor464> chắc chưa, vì mới mua, còn PC thì có cái win rồi
[04:44] <lewtds> khổ v~
[04:45] <lewtds> bác này chắc sếp công ty nào đấy đang muốn chuyển sang linux server nên làm thử trước :-?
[04:45] <CoconutCrab> nghe có vẻ hơi nhiều thời gian
[04:45] <lewtds> cũng tốt đấy chứ, sếp quan tâm đến kỹ thuật
[04:45] <CoconutCrab> mà mấy cái server của IBM hay HP đời mới đều support Linux ngon mà nhỉ
[04:45] * CoconutCrab cũng chỉ muốn được vào mấy cty kiểu đó thôi
[04:45] <CoconutCrab> :'3
[04:45] <CoconutCrab> cài Linux dạo
[04:53] <MrTuxHdb> CoconutCrab: nó support z-system hay OEM của nó
[04:53] <MrTuxHdb> túm lại là cài bình thường
[04:53] <MrTuxHdb> nhiều lúc không được đâu
[04:53] <MrTuxHdb> Dell HP thì dễ hơn
[04:53] <MrTuxHdb> chứ IBM thốn lắm
[04:53] <MrTuxHdb> :3
[04:53] <CoconutCrab> hue
[05:01] <n0bawk> IBM cài cái rẹt mà?
[05:01] <n0bawk> bọn nó dùng toàn đồ ngon, driver cũng đầy đủ >:3
[05:07] <MrTuxHdb> n0bawk: thường là thế
[05:07] <MrTuxHdb> :v
[13:23] <vubuntor464> CoconutCrab: chi oi chi e cai may in cai
[13:23] <CoconutCrab> máy in lào?
[13:24] <vubuntor464> may nha ng quen, cai cannon 2900 tren laptop
[13:25] <CoconutCrab> laptop cài ubuntu mấy?
[13:25] <vubuntor464> win
[13:25] <CoconutCrab> http://support-vn.canon-asia.com/contents/VN/EN/0900785701.html
[13:25] <CoconutCrab> win thì cài cái kia
[13:25] <SuperLuserv3> [ [Windows 32bit] LBP2900/2900B CAPT Printer Driver (R1.50 Ver.3.30) ] - support-vn.canon-asia.com
[13:32] <vubuntor464> k chay dau a
[13:33] <CoconutCrab> phải chạy mf
[13:33] <CoconutCrab> lúc cài nhớ gỡ máy in ra
[13:35] <vubuntor464> chay kieu gi ta
[13:35] <vubuntor464> cai nay co bkav no toanbao loi quai gi
[13:36] <CoconutCrab> cái kia là chuẩn mà
[13:36] <CoconutCrab> down từ trang của canon
[13:36] <CoconutCrab> tắt bkav đi
[13:37] <vubuntor464> k tat dc
[13:37] <CoconutCrab> thế chịu òi
[13:38] <CoconutCrab> cố cài với bkav thôi
[13:40] <vubuntor464> no cu chay mot hoi den buoc install now la tat mat
[13:41] <CoconutCrab> ngộ vậy
[13:42] <CoconutCrab> windows gì thế?
[13:43] <vubuntor464> dốt k biet
[13:44] <CoconutCrab> tải lại xem
[13:45] <vubuntor464> van the
[13:50] <CoconutCrab> dứt dây máy in ra, restart rồi thử lại
[16:30] <CoconutCrab> dxta: ?
[17:21] <quydo> ping
[17:21] <quydo> có app todo list nào mà sync Ubuntu với iOS ko các bác nhỉ
|
ubuntu-chat
|
2024-05-13T22:11:15.882957
| 2015-04-07T00:00:00 |
{
"license": "Public Domain",
"authors": [
"CoconutCrab",
"MrTuxHdb",
"Stanley00",
"SuperLuserv3",
"lewtds",
"n0bawk",
"quydo",
"vubuntor464"
],
"url": "https://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2015/04/07/%23ubuntu-vn.txt",
"channel": "#ubuntu-vn"
}
|
2015-04-07-#ubuntustudio-devel
|
[01:00] <srp> hey people
[01:00] <srp> not sure this is the right place to ask
[01:01] <srp> I'm currently running DreamStudio (based on Ubuntu 12.04)
[01:01] <srp> and lately have been running into regular crashes
[01:01] <srp> Since DreamStudio is no longer updated, I'm considering UbuntuStudio as a replacement for a fresh install
[01:02] <srp> most of the software in the bundle are already my long-term acquaintances...
[01:02] <srp> however, I have a partitioned hard drive (system in /dev/sda1 and home in /dev/sda5)
[01:02] <srp> any special instructions before I take the leap?
[01:44] <OvenWerks> srp: I shouldn't think so. Install on sda1 and mount sda5 on home. You may wish to move your own home directory to another name till the system is set up, then delete the one created at install and move your's back. You may have to chown your own directory again if the new system gives you a different user number than your old one.
[01:46] <OvenWerks> You would select the "Something else" install option and don't format sda5 whatever you do :)
[01:53] <srp> OvenWerks, thanks. How exactly do I move it to another name?
[01:54] <srp> just mv /home /somewhereelse?
[02:00] <OvenWerks> srp: you can't move home as the system will create another. I meant mv /home/user /home/user.bac or something.
[02:01] <OvenWerks> Do you have more than one user?
[22:26] <srp> sorry I left without warning
[22:26] <srp> OvenWerks, no, just one
[22:26] <srp> I see what you mean now
|
ubuntu-chat
|
2024-05-13T22:11:15.889617
| 2015-04-07T00:00:00 |
{
"license": "Public Domain",
"authors": [
"OvenWerks",
"srp"
],
"url": "https://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2015/04/07/%23ubuntustudio-devel.txt",
"channel": "#ubuntustudio-devel"
}
|
2015-04-07-#juju-dev
|
[00:00] <axw> katco: thanks, sorry about that. little bit of rain and the network goes out
[00:01] <rick_h_> thumper: good time off?
[00:01] <thumper> rick_h_: yeah, a real nice break
[00:01] <thumper> rick_h_: didn't get all I wanted to get done done...
[00:02] <thumper> but them's the breaks
[00:02] <rick_h_> thumper: never do
[00:02] <thumper> the kids have decided they like D&D
[00:02] <rick_h_> lol
[00:02] <thumper> and I'm kinda required as a DM
[00:02] <thumper> which takes time...
[00:02] <rick_h_> but of course
[00:02] <katco> thumper: awesome!
[00:02] <rick_h_> to do properly
[00:02] <katco> axw: no worries at all
[00:02] <rick_h_> thumper: have time today for me to bug you with a few notes on things?
[00:02] <thumper> they were real frustrated that I had to read up on the campaign first
[00:02] <rick_h_> lol, yea been a long time here
[00:03] <rick_h_> I'd have to go reread a lot of stuff heh
[00:03] <thumper> rick_h_: yeah, at a cafe now so I can focus on design without kids around
[00:03] <thumper> the rules changed since I last played
[00:03] <thumper> over 20 years ago
[00:03] <axw> thumper: nice :) I never had anyone interested in playing D&D growing up
[00:04] <rick_h_> thumper: k, ping if you get free/bandwidth and if not will bring it up later but had some things come up friday/today figured I'd mention
[00:04] <katco> axw: same here.... somehow i was a huge nerd and never played even once
[00:04] <axw> steve jackson books were there for me though
[00:04] <thumper> rick_h_: need to mention with voice? or irc would work?
[00:04] <rick_h_> thumper: we can try irc if you want
[00:05] <thumper> rick_h_: my mind is pretty good at reading your writing in your voice
[00:05] <rick_h_> lol awesome
[00:05] <thumper> can also pick up most of the sarcasm
[00:05] <thumper> :)
[00:06] <thumper> rick_h_: if we find it now working, we could do a call later
[00:06] <rick_h_> thumper: here, PM, or other side?
[00:06] <thumper> rick_h_: if it is sensitive PM or other
[00:06] <thumper> otherwise, I'm fine here
[00:06] <rick_h_> I don't think it is but do that just to be safe I guess
[00:06] <thumper> sure
[00:13] <axw> katco: it's JUJU_DEV_FEATURE_FLAGS
[00:13] <axw> you're missing the "DEV"
[00:21] <katco> axw: thx
[00:23] <axw> katco: left a few more comments. all the panics need to go, and init needs to move, otherwise trivials/suggestions
[00:23] <katco> axw: yeah i was going to ask about the panics... wasn't quite sure what to do there
[00:23] <katco> axw: i think i ran into a circular reference last time i tried to address the registration? i'll let you know here in a sec
[00:24] <axw> katco: there should be no references from storage->openstack, only the reverse
[00:29] <katco> axw: i see my misunderstanding... i think i was trying to register it in storage/provider/ something or other
[00:38] <katco> axw: thanks for the great reviews. fresh PR up.
[00:42] <rick_h_> and like that you can ruin someone else's day bwuhahaha :)
[00:42] <thumper> katco: it was suggested that without the _DEV_ bit, it would be too tempting for clients to try to use them in prod settings
[00:42] <thumper> which they would do
[00:43] <katco> thumper: i completely agree with that lol
[00:52] <rick_h_> thumper: I forgot a dinner tomorrow, can I move out sync back a few hours?
[00:52] <thumper> rick_h_: back as in later...?
[00:52] <rick_h_> thumper: yes
[00:52] <rick_h_> later in the day 3hrs
[00:53] <thumper> 3.5?
[00:53] <thumper> or is that too later?
[00:53] <rick_h_> that's peachy
[00:53] <thumper> ok
[00:53] * thumper moves
[00:53] <rick_h_> aunt's b-day, not on my work calendar doh!
[00:53] <thumper> :)
[00:54] <axw> katco: thanks, LGTM with a few more small fixes
[00:54] <katco> axw: k thx... getting the dummy charm to allocate some storage will be a milestone
[00:55] <axw> katco: did you see the email I sent out, with the reference to the hacked version of postgresql?
[00:55] <axw> katco: or did you just want to test with something a bit leaner?
[00:56] <katco> axw: just wanted to start lean so i can iterate quickly
[00:56] <axw> sure, SGTM
[00:56] <katco> axw: i will move onto postgres afterwards since i know that's what we would like to demo with
[00:56] <axw> good practice to write charms anyway :)
[00:56] <katco> axw: haha yeah :)
[01:12] <cherylj> hey axw, do you know how to get the output of the cloudinit script like is in bug 1439447?
[01:12] <mup> Bug #1439447: tools download in cloud-init should not go through http[s]_proxy <cloud-installer> <landscape> <juju-core:In Progress by cherylj> <juju-core 1.23:In Progress by cherylj> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1439447>
[01:13] <axw> cherylj: one moment, I think I know, just checking
[01:15] <axw> cherylj: the instance's cloud-config is /var/lib/cloud/instance/cloud-config.txt
[01:15] <axw> it's not exactly a shell script, but has each of the commands in a YAML file
[01:15] <cherylj> axw: Awesome, thanks!!
[01:15] <axw> nps
[01:17] <axw> cherylj: BTW regarding your last comment on that bug: yes, there will almost certainly be people that want it either way. In particular, manually provisioned machines may need to go through a proxy
[01:17] <axw> I think otherwise they'd be going direct tho
[01:18] <thumper> axw: yeah... kinda hard to deal with that where we have a mixed environent
[01:18] <thumper> unsure just yet
[01:19] <cherylj> axw: Thanks, providing an option is proving to be a bit difficult to implement.
[01:36] <axw> thumper cherylj: I was just thinking, don't we currently expect all nodes to communicate directly? for the API anyway?
[01:36] <axw> so... maybe just disabling the proxy isn't a problem
[01:37] <axw> I think even for manual we require things to be directly routable atm
[01:37] <thumper> that was my reasoning too
[01:41] <cherylj> axw, thumper: cool, so I'll just disable the proxy when we're downloading tools for the non-bootstrap node
[01:41] <natefinch> weird, just got disconnected
[01:42] <thumper> natefinch: I just assumed you were done :)
[01:42] <axw> cherylj: sounds good. I can't recall if there's any case where a non-bootstrap node downloads tools directly from the Internet, but if so then don't disable for that
[01:42] <axw> cherylj: I don't *think* there is such a case though
[01:42] <natefinch> thumper: not quite :)
[01:43] <thumper> axw: we were looking at ONLY changing the curl command for acquiring tools
[01:43] <cherylj> axw: yeah, I don't think there is
[01:43] <thumper> axw: there is a command line option '--noproxy=*' that /should/ work
[01:43] <axw> thumper: yep, SGTM
[01:43] <thumper> cherylj: any luck getting it working from the machine not using cloudinit?
[01:44] <natefinch> axw: did my last two comments go through, about the review?
[01:44] <axw> natefinch: looking
[01:45] <natefinch> axw: it was just 15 minutes ago... possibly I was already disconnected and the client didn't tell me
[01:45] <axw> natefinch: last comment I saw from you was from 9.5h ago
[01:45] <axw> ah nope
[01:45] <natefinch> ok :)
[01:47] <natefinch> axw: I tried moving the set password stuff in the agent code directly but I couldn't find the right time in the startup sequence where it would work. Did you have an idea of where is appropriate? I tried just above where I'd put the converter code, at the beginning of the state worker, and pretty near the beginning of all the workers. I got different errors for each, but unfortunately didn't copy all of them down.
[01:48] <axw> natefinch: lemme see, one minute
[01:54] <axw> natefinch: did you try modifyin OpenAPIState? add an "else" after the "if usedOldPassword", and call entity.SetPassword(info.Password) in it
[01:54] <axw> modifying*
[01:54] <axw> modifyin'
[01:55] <natefinch> axw: nope, but that's a good idea
[01:55] <axw> natefinch: I expect the StateWorker would bounce until that passes, but I think it should keep retrying?
[01:55] <natefinch> axw: it should
[01:55] <mup> Bug #1440940 was opened: xml/marshal.go:10:2: cannot find package "encoding" <ci> <regression> <test-failure> <juju-core:Triaged> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1440940>
[01:56] <axw> natefinch: initially I was thinking stateStarter could not start StateWorker until the API has connected, but I'm not sure if that'll cause problems with API server initialisation when there's only one server ...
[02:01] * natefinch tries it.
[02:03] <cherylj> thumper: It seems to be a problem using the * wildcard. If I do --noproxy *, it still tries to go through the proxy. But if I explicitly list the state server, it bypasses the proxy
[02:03] <thumper> haha
[02:03] <thumper> ha
[02:03] <thumper> hmm
[02:03] <thumper> I know what it is
[02:04] <cherylj> oh?
[02:04] <thumper> the whole command line is being pushed through bash
[02:04] <thumper> * is expanded to all the filenames in the directory
[02:04] <cherylj> I figured it was some substitution like that
[02:04] <thumper> try wrapping it in quotes so bash doesn't expand it
[02:04] <thumper> --noproxy "*"
[02:05] <cherylj> that worked, yay!
[02:05] <thumper> w00t
[02:05] <cherylj> let me try it in the actual code now
[02:05] <thumper> ok
[02:11] <cherylj> thumper: it worked! huzzah!
[02:11] <thumper> awesome
[02:12] <cherylj> I'm going to turn in for the evening and write the tests for the change in the morning.
[02:12] <thumper> kk
[02:17] <katco> axw: when i do juju storage pool, i don't see "cinder" as an option... what have i done wrong?
[02:17] <katco> axw: juju storage pool list rather
[02:18] <axw> katco: you won't see any pools; there's an implicit pool for each provider, but it's not listed
[02:18] <axw> (perhaps we should change that)
[02:18] <katco> Added charm "local:trusty/hello-world-charm-3" to the environment.
[02:18] <katco> ERROR cannot add service "hello-world-charm": reading pool "cinder": settings not found
[02:18] <katco>
[02:18] <axw> huh
[02:18] <katco> that was from: juju deploy local:trusty/hello-world-charm --storage="foo=cinder,1MB"
[02:19] <axw> katco: you *bootstrapped* with the feature flag enabled right?
[02:19] <katco> yeah
[02:20] <katco> export JUJU_DEV_FEATURE_FLAGS=storage
[02:20] <katco> and then juju bootstrap --upload-tools
[02:20] <katco> this is on canonistack
[02:21] <katco> i'll try tearing it down and retry just in case
[02:21] <axw> katco: that's weird, the error annotation implies that the error is not a NotFound error, but the cause suggests it is
[02:21] <axw> katco: see storage/poolmanager/poolmanager.go
[02:21] <katco> axw: k
[02:25] <axw> katco: oh, there's a bug in provider/openstack/init.go -- not sure if it's related
[02:26] <axw> katco: there's an existing call to registry.RegisterEnvironStorageProviders
[02:26] <axw> katco: remove the first one, which is saying that openstack supports no custom storage providers
[02:26] <axw> hmm don't think it's related tho, looks like it'll accumulate
[02:29] * thumper heads home
[02:30] <katco> axw: lol stale binary >.<
[02:30] <axw> katco: :)
[02:31] <katco> axw: so it's pending... it should eventually show up?
[02:32] <axw> katco: yes, once the instance is created, the storage provisioner should try to create it
[02:33] <axw> katco: we need to add proper status support to storage, it's a little bit difficult to debug what's going on at the moment
[02:35] <katco> axw: agent is started, running hook config-changed
[02:36] <katco> axw: and storage is still pending. hm.
[02:38] <katco> axw: i'm getting some decent errors in debug-log at least
[02:38] <katco> volume "0" not provisioned
[02:38] <katco> getting storage source "cinder": requisite configuration was not set: auth-url not assigned
[02:46] <katco> axw: ah i see... there are some config options i need to set to tell it how to authenticate to canonistack. where do i do that for storage? i.e. how does it get passed into VolumeSource(...)?
[02:46] <axw> katco: hm, why are those pool config attributes? shouldn't they just come from the env config?
[02:46] <axw> I think I glossed over that in my review
[02:47] <axw> katco: sorry, in the VolumeSource method, it should be using environConfig to get the credentials to open a nova/cinder session
[02:47] <katco> i'm getting them from *storage.Config
[02:47] <katco> axw: ah k
[02:48] <axw> katco: see ec2/ebs.go for inspiration if required
[02:48] <katco> i shall seek inspiration :)
[02:49] <katco> axw: fyi the whole provider/* vs. storage/provider/* screwed me up for a long time
[02:49] <katco> axw: i kept wondering if you guys just hadn't checked in the ec2 provider
[02:49] <axw> katco: sorry. the reason it lives in provider/ is because it's closely tied to the environ provider
[02:50] <axw> non IaaS storage providers will go in storage/provider/
[02:50] <katco> axw: totally my fault
[02:50] <katco> axw: i need to turn in, but this looks like we're pretty close. thanks for the help :)
[02:50] <axw> katco: cool :) no worries, talk to you tomorrow
[02:51] <katco> axw: have a good day!
[02:51] <axw> cheers, good night
[03:00] <natefinch> axw: btw, that suggestion to put it in OpenAPIState works great.
[03:00] <axw> natefinch: awesome
[04:00] <natefinch> axw: added some tests and finished the cleanup & suggestions you had. Would love to have you re-review. The tests aren't super thorough, but they're similar to what already existed, so I don't feel too bad (I do still feel bad, but I also need to get this committed).
[04:00] <natefinch> going to bed. Good night all.
[04:01] <axw> natefinch: yep, just about to hit the button. thanks for the updates
[04:01] <natefinch> axw: thanks for the review. It's been a big help.
[04:01] <axw> no worries
[04:46] <dimitern> morning all
[07:34] <voidspace> morning all
[07:40] <dooferlad> dimitern: moeninf
[07:40] <dooferlad> dimitern: morning rather
[07:41] <dooferlad> ok, the coffee hasn't hit
[07:41] <dimitern> voidspace, dooferlad, morning!
[07:43] <voidspace> o/
[07:43] <voidspace> coffee is a good idea
[07:48] <TheMue> morning o/
[07:57] <davecheney> o/ europe!
[07:59] <TheMue> davecheney: heya, Mister Vienna
[08:33] <dimitern> dooferlad, I've landed your branches, but we need to clean up a few bits
[08:33] <voidspace> davecheney: what are you doing in Europe - just here early for the sprint or at a conf?
[08:34] <dooferlad> dimitern: yea, I spotted that. Thanks.
[08:36] <dimitern> voidspace, I've tried to land yours but one had conflicts after the first one landed
[08:36] <voidspace> dimitern: yep, fixed and retried
[08:37] <voidspace> dimitern: just now
[08:37] <voidspace> dimitern: creating versions of those fixes for master
[08:37] <dimitern> voidspace, sweet!
[08:37] <voidspace> dimitern: first one applied cleanly and PR created
[08:37] <voidspace> dimitern: second one the patch didn't apply cleanly, looking at now
[08:37] <voidspace> dimitern: thanks for landing the other one
[08:38] <dimitern> voidspace, I'd appreciate if you have a look at bug 1439880 to see if my analysis is correct
[08:38] <mup> Bug #1439880: Container's interfaces are all on private networks instead of host's eth0 network <lxc> <maas-provider> <network> <oil> <juju-core:Triaged by dimitern> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1439880>
[08:38] <voidspace> oh god
[08:38] <voidspace> dimitern: ok
[08:38] <dimitern> voidspace, that's most likely the same issue (not found subnets: [])
[08:38] <dimitern> which you fixed already
[08:38] <voidspace> dimitern: ok, I hope so
[08:38] <voidspace> dimitern: looking
[08:40] <dimitern> TheMue, heya, any update on your maas issue?
[08:41] <dimitern> voidspace, LGTM on http://reviews.vapour.ws/r/1391/ btw
[08:42] <voidspace> dimitern: thanks
[08:42] <TheMue> dimitern: I'm an dialog with rvba, lp issue is created. now I at least want to propose my little fix that doesn't stop with an error but returns the default values instead
[08:42] <voidspace> dimitern: yeah, those logs make it seem pretty likely that this is the same issue
[08:42] <voidspace> dimitern: fetching an interface with no subnet and attempting to use that
[08:43] <voidspace> dimitern: we'll see when he tries latest 1.23
[08:43] <dimitern> voidspace, yep, sounds good
[08:43] <dimitern> TheMue, ok, but please follow through with rvba on the issue
[08:44] <TheMue> dimitern: yes, sure, just added a comment
[08:45] <dimitern> voidspace, dooferlad, and BTW I'd appreciate a review on http://reviews.vapour.ws/r/1390/
[08:45] <dooferlad> dimitern: *click*
[08:47] <rvba> TheMue: the screenshot you pasted on bug 1439831 helped a great deal… but do you have access to the full console log? It's very possible that the cause of the problem could be identified if we had all the log.
[08:47] <mup> Bug #1439831: Missing lshw breaks cloudinit <MAAS:Incomplete> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1439831>
[08:49] <davecheney> voidspace: sprinting with aram for a week
[08:49] <davecheney> to get some arm64 stuff done before the close of the change window
[08:49] <voidspace> davecheney: cool
[08:49] <TheMue> rvba: I really would like to. sadly I cannot do a cut'n'paste with the vmware console at that time. as far as I know the vmware tools have to be installed at a later time
[08:50] <voidspace> davecheney: Vienna is on my list of "must visit sometime"
[08:50] <dimitern> davecheney, hey, so arm64 support will be released with golang-gc 1.5 ?
[08:50] <voidspace> dimitern: enjoy the sprint
[08:50] <dimitern> I wish :)
[08:50] <TheMue> rvba: but I'll see what I can do
[08:50] <rvba> Thanks.
[08:51] <dimitern> TheMue, have you tried using the vmware CLI tools to capture the console log of the VM ?
[08:51] <dimitern> it should be possible
[08:51] <voidspace> davecheney:: enjoy the sprint
[08:54] <TheMue> dimitern: they can be installed when then the OS is installed
[08:55] <dimitern> TheMue, no, I don't mean the vmware tools that you install on the vm, but the command-line vmware client you can use from the host
[08:56] <TheMue> dimitern: never heard of it, have to search for it
[09:00] <dimitern> TheMue, vmware fusion seems to come with a vmrun command - https://www.vmware.com/pdf/vix162_vmrun_command.pdf which has some interesting features, like running a script inside the guest and copying a file from guest to host - do you have vmrun?
[09:08] <TheMue> dimitern: just took a look, seems to be in the application package and I only have to set it up. sounds like a good way, indeed.
[09:11] <davecheney> voidspace: it's nice here
[09:11] <davecheney> very layed back
[09:11] <davecheney> no forms
[10:21] <davecheney> dimitern: yes, arm64 will ship in go 1.5
[10:21] <davecheney> that's what aram and I are doing this week
[10:21] <dimitern> davecheney, awesome!
[10:22] <dimitern> davecheney, do you know anything about native ppc64 support in gc-go as well?
[10:23] <davecheney> dimitern: same, ppc64 will ship in go 1.5
[10:26] <dimitern> davecheney, \o/ great! I can't wait not to have to care about gccgo/ppc64 bugs :)
[10:30] <davecheney> dimitern: i'm looking forward to your support when I fight for moving everyone up to 1.4 next week
[10:32] <dimitern> davecheney, count on it! :)
[11:08] <dimitern> dooferlad, thanks for the review btw
[11:08] <dimitern> dooferlad, as you progress with the implementation of "space list" you'll need to add a type for Space in params/network (like I did for Subnet)
[11:13] <dimitern> dooferlad, or actually, hold on.. you won't need that - you already have all the info (e.g. list of all spaces - like AllSpaces in cmd/juju/subnet), and the rest should come from a list of params.Subnet for each space's associate subnets
[11:13] <dimitern> dooferlad, most of the rendering code (and tests) could be reused between space list and subnet list, but I'd suggest copying it first and when done
[11:14] <dimitern> dooferlad, ...refactoring it to minimize duplication
[11:23] <dimitern> dooferlad, voidspace, TheMue, last step of the subnets CLI, please take a look http://reviews.vapour.ws/r/1393/ (esp. proof-reading)
[11:27] <lazyPower> o/ Good Morning - there's a member in #juju looking for which ports are required to be open on the juju state server. Does anyone happen to know these ports off the top of their heads?
[11:27] <dimitern> lazyPower, 17070
[11:27] <dimitern> tcp
[11:28] <dimitern> lazyPower, that's the api server, not state server (mongo) which is 37070/tcp, but it's not accessible anyway
[11:28] <lazyPower> ok, so just 17070 and 22 - the rest should be fine in state: closed?
[11:28] <dimitern> lazyPower, most commonly, yeah
[11:29] <lazyPower> right on, cheers dimitern :)
[11:29] <dimitern> lazyPower, no prob :)
[11:56] <jam> axw: katco: I've updated http://reviews.vapour.ws/r/1378/ for now I'm just commenting out the 1 non deterministic test. I'll try to work with william to get it tested again
[12:28] <voidspace> dimitern: if I add issues and then hit "Ship It", does it automaitcally become "Fix it, then ship it"?
[12:29] <voidspace> dimitern: as I can't specifically see an option for that
[12:29] <voidspace> dimitern: anyway, you have a review
[12:31] <jam> wow.... running "worker/uniter" tests causes the test suite to rebuild cmd/jujud/jujud which consumes about 700MB just for the 6l linker...
[12:31] <jam> so much for running the test suite on a 1GB VM
[12:31] <voidspace> dimitern: hmmm... no, it doesn't. Ah well. And I seem to have done it twice :-)
[12:34] <wwitzel3> jam: so it rebuilds it everytime, even if there are no changes?
[12:34] <jam> wwitzel3: I believe the issue probably has to do with JujuConnSuite building tools and "uploading" them to the environment as part of default setup. I don't quite understand why it always rebuilds jujud, but it is probably building everything in a temp dir (I would guess)
[12:36] <wwitzel3> jam: hrmm, wonder if there is a way to avoid that. Rebuilding everything is not an insignificant amount of time and with our test suite already being slow.
[12:37] <jam> wwitzel3: well I only noticed cause i did "go test -c" and then "./uniter.test & ./uniter.test" 10 times and my VM died to swapping :)
[12:37] <wwitzel3> jam: heh
[12:41] <voidspace> dimitern: in the "Juju Container Addressability" doc, is the greyed out section (from the bottom of page 5)
[12:41] <voidspace> dimitern: there for historical reasons only, or do I need to go through that as well?
[12:41] <dimitern> voidspace, it's historical only
[12:41] <voidspace> dimitern: ok
[12:41] <dimitern> voidspace, sorry, I just saw your earlier messages
[12:42] <voidspace> dimitern: I deleted one out of date bullet point and I'm adding an additional one in the "common features" section about the addresser worker
[12:42] <dimitern> voidspace, so AIUI "Fix it, then ship it" turns to "Ship it" once all issues are resolved/dropped
[12:42] <dimitern> automatically
[12:42] <voidspace> dimitern: right, but that wasn't the question
[12:43] <voidspace> dimitern: it was how to post a "Fix it, then ship it" in the first place
[12:43] <voidspace> dimitern: I posted a "Ship It" and it was just a "Ship It"
[12:43] <voidspace> :-)
[12:46] <dimitern> voidspace, ah :) well the "Fix it" part appears when you add any issues and tick the ship it box
[12:47] <voidspace> dimitern: ah!
[12:47] <voidspace> dimitern: thanks
[12:47] <voidspace> I didn't post two "Ship It" reviews - wwitzel3 posted one within the same minute as me...
[12:48] <voidspace> dimitern: hmmm... I have a horrible feeling
[12:48] <voidspace> dimitern: we have the watcher, worker, apiserver ReleaseContainerAddresses method, api client method
[12:49] <voidspace> dimitern: but it doesn't look *to me* like destroying a container calls the ReleaseContainerAddresses method
[12:49] <voidspace> unless I'm missing something
[12:49] <voidspace> I really thought I did that...
[12:50] <voidspace> dimitern: the provisioner should be calling it in StopInstance
[12:50] <dimitern> voidspace, how about adding a few ops in state around machine destruction?
[12:51] <voidspace> dimitern: so when the machine is destroyed in state release the addresses
[12:51] <voidspace> dimitern: then we don't need the api
[12:52] <voidspace> and the logic is simpler
[12:53] <voidspace> we have the machine ID, just find all IP addresses with that machine ID and mark Life as dead
[12:53] <voidspace> no need for the unit agent to do it, so no need to check permissions
[12:54] <voidspace> dimitern: I'll create an issue and a kanban card *sigh*
[12:57] <dimitern> voidspace, thanks
[12:57] <dimitern> voidspace, yes, that sounds like a better approach - the provisioner API RCA() can still stay (for now at least)
[12:57] <voidspace> dimitern: heh, you just unassigned me from a three year old bug
[12:58] <dimitern> voidspace, I think it's safer to do it in state though
[12:58] <voidspace> dimitern: yep
[12:58] <dimitern> voidspace, are you still working on it? :)
[12:58] <voidspace> dimitern: I might have got round to it...
[12:59] <dimitern> voidspace, well, in that case feel free to reassign yourself then :)
[13:00] <voidspace> dimitern: I think I'll skip it...
[13:05] <sinzui> mgz, dimitern Can either of you review http://reviews.vapour.ws/r/1394/
[13:10] <mgz> sinzui: on it
[13:10] <mgz> sinzui: lgtm
[13:11] <sinzui> thank you mgz
[13:12] <voidspace> aargh, spotify killed unity again
[13:12] <voidspace> mouse no longer works, events blocked
[13:12] <voidspace> I can alt-tab and type
[13:12] <voidspace> but can't use a browser very well
[13:12] <voidspace> will reboot and go on lunch, create tickets (and work on them) after that
[13:25] <jam> sinzui: abentley: i see "inc-1.23-beta4" in the pipeline, and I'm trying to land the "remove leader-election flag for 1.23" as well.
[13:25] <jam> It bounced once due to AddRemoveSet
[13:26] <jam> but it should land
[13:27] <sinzui> jam, yes, 1.23-beta3 was sent to the builders. we will release a 1.23-beta4 later this week or next if need be
[13:28] <sinzui> dimitern, bug 1427814 should be High, or we should remove it from the milestone. We don't commit Medium bugs to deadlines.
[13:28] <mup> Bug #1427814: juju bootstrap fails on maas with when the node has empty lshw output from commissioning <bootstrap> <maas> <maas-provider> <network> <juju-core:Triaged by themue> <juju-core 1.23:Triaged by themue> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1427814>
[13:28] <dimitern> sinzui, ok, I'll retriage it as high then
[13:29] <sinzui> thank you dimitern
[13:44] <mup> Bug #1427508 changed: cmd/jujud/agent: test failure <intermittent-failure> <tech-debt> <test-failure> <juju-core:Fix Released> <juju-core 1.23:Fix Released> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1427508>
[13:44] <mup> Bug #1438168 changed: juju 1.23 doesn't release IP addresses for containers <juju-core:Fix Released by mfoord> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1438168>
[13:44] <mup> Bug #1438683 changed: Containers stuck allocating, interface not up <add-machine> <cloud-installer> <landscape> <maas-provider> <network> <juju-core:Fix Released by mfoord> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1438683>
[13:44] <mup> Bug #1438820 changed: IP address life field upgrade step and addresser worker don't play well together <juju-core:Fix Released by mfoord> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1438820>
[13:58] <natefinch> ericsnow, wwitzel3: note the moved standup
[13:58] <natefinch> (in an hour)
[13:59] <ericsnow> natefinch: k
[13:59] <perrito666> ericsnow: are you not in pycon?
[13:59] * perrito666 looks at the calendar and acuses it of lying
[13:59] <ericsnow> perrito666: leaving for the airport in 4 hours
[14:00] <perrito666> ahh :D makes sense
[14:00] <perrito666> my calendar, given my tz, has shown me things in the wrong day before
[14:00] <ericsnow> perrito666: the calendar's right, it just doesn't show today as partial :)
[14:02] <wwitzel3> ahh, I see that now
[14:02] <wwitzel3> hangout is the best max fan speed tool for Linux, even steam doesn't get it cranked like hangout
[14:03] <perrito666> wwitzel3: get hardware accel for it
[14:34] <ericsnow> natefinch: one-on-one?
[14:34] <natefinch> ericsnow: I think we can skip it unless there's something you need
[14:34] <ericsnow> natefinch: nah
[14:34] <natefinch> ericsnow: cool. See you in Nuremberg. Have fun at pycon.
[14:35] <ericsnow> dimitern: thanks for hopping onto that vmware networking thread
[14:35] <voidspace> natefinch: can you remove me from the list of attendees to moonstone standups please
[14:35] <voidspace> natefinch: I don't think I can do it...
[14:35] <ericsnow> dimitern: I think we have a good enough plan going forward, but I want to be sure I'm understanding the juju networking model correctly
[14:36] <voidspace> natefinch: I keep getting updated invitations to your standups :-)
[14:36] <ericsnow> voidspace: were we that bad? <wink>
[14:36] <voidspace> ericsnow: yep <wink>
[14:37] <wwitzel3> lol
[14:37] <voidspace> ericsnow: you at pycon yet?
[14:37] <voidspace> :-)
[14:37] <ericsnow> voidspace: flying out in a few hours
[14:37] <voidspace> ericsnow: have fun, I'll miss everyone :-(
[14:37] <ericsnow> voidspace: way only just told that the posters can be 4x8 (feet)
[14:38] <wwitzel3> lol
[14:38] <voidspace> hah
[14:38] <ericsnow> voidspace: but it does allow me to fit more stuff on there :)
[14:39] <voidspace> good
[14:39] <wwitzel3> less is more for posters
[14:39] <dimitern> ericsnow, sure, I'll dig into the discussion so far and respond (but most likely tomorrow)
[14:39] <ericsnow> wwitzel3: pshaw
[14:39] <ericsnow> dimitern: np, thanks!
[14:39] <wwitzel3> poeple want to be drawn in by the poster, a core concept on the post that is easy to follow will generate interest and questions
[14:40] <voidspace> just have a picture of a cloud
[14:40] <wwitzel3> a big diagram full of stuff = empty poster session
[14:40] <ericsnow> wwitzel3, voidspace: apparently there are also accommodations for a laptop, so I may demo some stuff too
[14:40] <ericsnow> wwitzel3: true
[14:40] <ericsnow> voidspace: :)
[14:40] <voidspace> ericsnow: I would have a predeployed local environment with gui
[14:40] <wwitzel3> yeah, was just going to say, use the GUI :)
[14:41] <ericsnow> voidspace: more homework? :)
[14:41] <voidspace> heh, it's easy...
[14:41] <ericsnow> voidspace: I'm probably going to set up openstack
[14:41] <voidspace> wowzer :-)
[14:42] <voidspace> so, deploy openstack with juju and then deploy to that openstack with juju
[14:42] <ericsnow> voidspace: :)
[14:42] <ericsnow> voidspace: TBH, I wasn't planning on using a laptop, but it's so tempting
[14:43] <voidspace> being able to show a deployed environment through the gui is nice
[14:43] <voidspace> showing the relationships
[14:43] <ericsnow> voidspace: yep
[14:44] <voidspace> gmail has decided, fairly reasonably in my opinion..., that all those blessed/cursed emails are spam...
[14:44] <perrito666> voidspace: I added a filter
[14:44] <voidspace> perrito666: I have a thunderbird filter - I use imap
[14:44] <ericsnow> voidspace: the demo openstack page that lazyPower posted inspired me
[14:45] <perrito666> voidspace: saying that these where not spam :p because I assumed they where going to be taken as such
[14:45] * lazyPower perks up
[14:45] <voidspace> perrito666: but gmail is moving them to spam before I get to them
[14:45] <lazyPower> o/
[14:45] <perrito666> voidspace: you can nevertheless add a filter in gmail
[14:45] <voidspace> perrito666: heh
[14:45] <voidspace> perrito666: I could do...
[14:45] <perrito666> voidspace: its no more than 5 clicks
[14:45] <voidspace> perrito666: I wish gmail would leave my damn email alone and let me handle it thank you very much
[14:46] <perrito666> voidspace: well, I havent looked in my canonical acct, but in my regular acct I get a lot of spam so I am fairly happy with gmails filter
[14:46] <perrito666> but, I use gmail as a client
[14:46] <wwitzel3> voidspace: you can disable the spam filtering completely
[14:46] <voidspace> yeah, I don't like web clients
[14:46] <perrito666> voidspace: I like consistent clients :p so with that I get the same client on my phone, my tablet and my laptop
[14:47] <voidspace> it's sucky - hey, but at least it's sucky everywhere!
[14:47] <perrito666> voidspace: and I pretty much like the ui so I would really use a desktop client if it provided the same interface
[14:47] <voidspace> right
[14:47] <voidspace> I prefer the thunderbird ui
[14:47] <perrito666> the idea of labels instead of folders is the killer feature for me
[14:47] <voidspace> that's the killer un-feature for me!
[14:47] <voidspace> I like folders dammit
[14:50] <ericsnow> I don't mind the labels, but the filters drive me nuts
[14:50] <ericsnow> you can't prioritize them
[14:50] <ericsnow> (they *all* get run)
[14:51] <wwitzel3> voidspace: if you create a filter for Has Words: is:spam and check never mark as spam, you essentially disable the spam filtering
[14:51] <ericsnow> wwitzel3: nice :)
[14:51] <wwitzel3> voidspace: I did that for my Canonical email after I missed a few that were sent to spam.
[14:51] <perrito666> voidspace: I am a person with difficulties making choices so If I can put an email in many folders it solves my problem :p
[14:55] <dimitern> TheMue, hey, any progress on the maas issue? Did you manage to use vmrun successfully?
[14:56] <TheMue> dimitern: hehe, just wanted to ping you. vmrun does not help, it is only a CLI tool doing the same as the UI. when wanting to get into the running machine you need a user/password.
[14:57] <natefinch> voidspace: ha, sorry, I can fix it.
[14:57] <TheMue> dimitern: but I'm currently setting up a serial debugging console hoping to grabbing the output there
[14:57] <TheMue> dimitern: found some docs at vmware and in forums on how to set it up
[14:57] <dimitern> TheMue, that's an option yeah
[14:58] <TheMue> dimitern: I'm not aware what I'll see there, but I've got almost no other idea
[14:58] <TheMue> dimitern: one option I found too is simply do a screen recording, creating a kind of console output film
[14:58] <TheMue> dimitern: :)
[14:58] <voidspace> wwitzel3: hah, nice - thanks
[14:59] <TheMue> dimitern: if only this initial ubuntu user would have a password to login *sigh*
[15:00] * TheMue is frustrated
[15:00] <voidspace> natefinch: thanks :-)
[15:02] <dimitern> TheMue, if only cloud-init did it's job :)
[15:02] <perrito666> natefinch: standup?
[15:02] <TheMue> dimitern: exactly, the a simple ssh would be no problem
[15:04] <natefinch> sinzui: what's up with https://bugs.launchpad.net/juju-core/+bug/1440940 ?? It looks like it's a build environment problem, since it's not able to find the stdlib's encoding package.
[15:04] <mup> Bug #1440940: xml/marshal.go:10:2: cannot find package "encoding" <ci> <regression> <test-failure> <juju-core:Triaged> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1440940>
[15:05] <sinzui> natefinch, I hope a developer can explain what is up so that I can fix it. We haven't changed packaging on that machine in months
[15:06] <sinzui> natefinch, you think encoding is provided by a specific ubuntu package?
[15:06] <natefinch> sinzui: encoding is a go package that is part of the go standard library
[15:07] <voidspace> yeah, that's odd
[15:08] <sinzui> natefinch, stilson-07 only had kernels in /usr/src
[15:09] <natefinch> sinzui: seems like goroot is set incorrectly there
[15:09] <natefinch> sinzui: $GOROOT seems to be set to /usr/
[15:10] <sinzui> natefinch, what should goroot be on a machine that uses gccgo?
[15:13] <sinzui> mgz can you and natefinch sort out what stilson-07 needs (that I presume stilson-08 has) to allow us to run unit tests? I am at a critical moment in a release that affects production streams
[15:13] <natefinch> sinzui: no problem
[15:13] <mgz> sure
[15:14] <natefinch> sinzui, mgz: goroot doesn't need to be set, the go tool figures it out on its own for the most part.
[15:14] <mgz> natefinch: so, you say I unset that and it compiles?
[15:15] <sinzui> mgz, since 1.23 and 1.22 works, I think something is different about the package or the Makefile
[15:15] <natefinch> mgz: I am 100% sure there's no possible way that anything else could possibly be wrong
[15:15] <mup> Bug #1441206 was opened: Container destruction doesn't mark IP addresses as Dead <juju-core:In Progress by mfoord> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1441206>
[15:15] * natefinch hopes they get the sarcasm'
[15:15] <sinzui> mgz, tarball, not package. stilson-08 takes the same tarball and made packages.
[15:15] <natefinch> mgz: unsetting it should work, but I can't be sure there's nothing else wrong
[15:17] <mgz> natefinch: paste.ubuntu.com/10763144
[15:18] <natefinch> mgz: what does `go env` return ?
[15:18] <mgz> the reason trunk is broken and 1.23 is not is that the xml package from the stdlib was forked as a dep
[15:18] <mgz> and that's what's not compiling
[15:18] <mgz> sinzui: ^that change is on trunk only
[15:19] <mgz> natefinch: GOROOT=/usr
[15:19] <natefinch> mgz: it sounds like the installation of go is messed up
[15:20] <mgz> I can purge it and reinstall
[15:21] <mup> Bug #1441206 changed: Container destruction doesn't mark IP addresses as Dead <juju-core:In Progress by mfoord> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1441206>
[15:22] <mgz> natefinch: stilson-08 also says /usr for GOROOT through go env
[15:22] <natefinch> mgz: how did you guys get Go installed on those machines?
[15:24] <mgz> natefinch: apt-get install
[15:26] <natefinch> mgz: oh, yeah, I guess that's actually the correct goroot... I had forgotten how it works when you use apt-get
[15:27] <rogpeppe1> natefinch: hiya
[15:28] <natefinch> rogpeppe1: howdy
[15:28] <rogpeppe1> natefinch: just wondering if you know how to quote an arbitrary argument passed to cmd.exe; we're trying to write a platform-general "open link in web browser" package
[15:29] <natefinch> mgz: still, that means there should be a /usr/src/pkg/encoding/encoding.go
[15:29] <rogpeppe1> natefinch: and i don't trust the implementation https://github.com/toqueteos/webbrowser/blob/master/webbrowser.go
[15:29] <mgz> rogpeppe1: just look at the python module and do that?
[15:29] <rogpeppe1> mgz: link?
[15:29] <alexisb> dimitern, ping
[15:29] <dimitern> alexisb, pong
[15:30] <mgz> rogpeppe1: there's a function in subprocess.py that does quoting, and webbrowser does what you're doing
[15:30] <rogpeppe1> mgz: it's not just normal quoting unfortunately
[15:30] <rogpeppe1> mgz: it's quoting past cmd.exe, which is somewhat harder, i think
[15:30] <mgz> rogpeppe1: `vi /usr/lib/python2.7/subprocess.py`
[15:31] * perrito666 suggests rogpeppe1 asks gsamfira
[15:31] <rogpeppe1> mgz: not really keen on that implementation
[15:31] <natefinch> mgz: hmm... except that installing it locally doesn't do that either....
[15:31] <rogpeppe1> mgz: it doesn't seem to respect user web browser preferences, although i may not have seen that bit
[15:32] <mgz> rogpeppe1: /list2cmdline
[15:32] <natefinch> mgz: ahh... when I install go from apt, it gives me goroot = /usr/lib/go
[15:32] <mgz> rogpeppe1: it looks at the BROWSER envvar on nix, not sure if it looks up the registry setting or whatever on windows
[15:33] <mup> Bug #1441206 was opened: Container destruction doesn't mark IP addresses as Dead <juju-core:In Progress by mfoord> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1441206>
[15:33] <rogpeppe1> mgz: isn't list2cmdline just for executing a command directly?
[15:33] <mgz> I also don't like webbrowser much, but it'll cover a bunch of cases you don't think if otherwise
[15:33] <rogpeppe1> mgz: whereas what we are thinking of doing is running cmd /c start $url
[15:34] <rogpeppe1> mgz: and in that case there are a bunch of cmd.exe metachars that would need quoting (& being the most obvious)
[15:34] <mgz> rogpeppe1: see also `if shell:` in _execute_child
[15:34] <rogpeppe1> mgz: link?
[15:34] <mgz> same file
[15:34] <mgz> further down
[15:35] <ericsnow> rogpeppe1: did you see the shell package in the utils repo?
[15:35] <ericsnow> rogpeppe1: it has code for shquoting
[15:35] <rogpeppe1> mgz: i don't see it inhttps://hg.python.org/cpython/file/2.7/Lib/webbrowser.py
[15:35] <rogpeppe1> ericsnow: ah, in windows too, cool
[15:36] <ericsnow> rogpeppe1: both powershell and cmd.exe, I believe
[15:36] <ericsnow> rogpeppe1: powershell is easier, BTW
[15:36] <natefinch> rogpeppe1: wow, I was totally confused about what you meant by quoting
[15:37] <natefinch> rogpeppe1: would just putting quotes around it not work?
[15:37] <rogpeppe1> natefinch: probably not
[15:38] <rogpeppe1> natefinch: because they'll get quoted by the Go syscall quoting mechanism, i think
[15:38] <natefinch> rogpeppe1: Oh I see
[15:39] <mgz> rogpeppe1: you were asking about the subprocess function, that file
[15:40] <rogpeppe1> i think this (from winCmdEscapeMeta) has what i need: const meta = `()%!^"<>&|`
[15:40] <natefinch> rogpeppe1: http://stackoverflow.com/questions/1327431/how-do-i-escape-ampersands-in-batch-files
[15:40] <rogpeppe1> natefinch: yeah, i know about ampersands
[15:41] <rogpeppe1> natefinch: it was all the other stuff that you can find in urls that i'm concerned about
[15:41] <natefinch> rogpeppe1: right ok
[15:45] <natefinch> sinzui, mgz: can we mark #1440940 as not blocking trunk? It's not a code issue that dev can fix.
[15:45] <mup> Bug #1440940: xml/marshal.go:10:2: cannot find package "encoding" <ci> <regression> <test-failure> <juju-core:Triaged> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1440940>
[15:45] <natefinch> of that I'm 100% sure
[15:48] <mgz> natefinch: have you successfully built on gccgo locally with trunk?
[15:48] <natefinch> mgz: not recently, but I can give it a go
[15:48] <natefinch> (heh)
[15:51] <mgz> natefinch: I think unblocking trunk when know one knows if t
[15:52] <mgz> it actually builds or not on one of our supported platforms, is probably not a good idea
[15:52] <natefinch> mgz: I actually had thought we decided that errors with gccgo builds weren't going to block trunk, but maybe I misunderstood. I am compiling with gccgo now, btw.
[15:54] <sinzui> natefinch, I think the issue is that Ubuntu require this to work and we need to prove it is a compiler issue that they manage, not a code issue in Juju
[15:59] <natefinch> sinzui: well, it's certainly a compiler issue. It can't find a package from the standard library. FWIW, I just finished a build of trunk with gccgo with no issues
[16:00] <sinzui> mgz: This atrociously long log shows gccgo did compile the ppc64el package on stilson-08
[16:00] <natefinch> sinzui: my suggestion is to remove and reinstall golang on that machine... maybe the installation got corrupted somehow
[16:01] <sinzui> natefinch, but isn't this about xml being forked. 1.22 and 1.23 build fine
[16:02] <natefinch> sinzui: the error from the compiler clearly says that it can't find the encoding package from the standard library. it's not about the forked xml package... that's just the leaf-most package that happens to import encoding, and therefore shows the error.
[16:03] <natefinch> sinzui: those other branches build fine on the same machine?
[16:04] <sinzui> natefinch, yes
[16:05] <mgz> natefinch: it really is about the change that introduced that, it's when it started breaking
[16:06] <natefinch> sinzui: hmm.... so before, we didn't import encoding directly in our code at all, only indirectly through importing xml. Now we do it directly. I wonder if that somehow is triggering this issue.
[16:06] <sinzui> neither stillson has golang* package installed
[16:07] <natefinch> sinzui: where is it getting the go tools from, then?
[16:07] <sinzui> mgz, is xml defined in dependencies.tsv?
[16:07] <sinzui> natefinch, I think they get it from gccgo
[16:09] <mgz> sinzui: our forked version is, for trunk
[16:09] <sinzui> mgz, yes, which is why I think Ubuntu can say the issue is in Juju's code
[16:10] <natefinch> sinzui: the problem is that the standard library package "encoding" isn't there. That's not a bug in juju's code.
[16:11] <mgz> yeah, I wanted to grab dave or someone to work out what about the root package import is unhappy on gccgo
[16:11] <mgz> natefinch: but all the encoding/blah imports are fine
[16:14] <sinzui> mgz, stilson-08 will work because it is packaging...debian deps will ensure the fakeroot will get the source.
[16:18] <natefinch> mgz, sinzui: can one of you try copying this program to a file on that machine and doing gccgo run <thatfile>? http://play.golang.org/p/6b1LdO_13i
[16:19] <sinzui> mgz stilson-07 doesn't have golang-go src and it hasn't needed it because I think the tarball gets all the golang go pakages needed. GOROOT is irrelevant for the tarball because the static link rules require we provide everything that ubuntu needs to audit
[16:19] <sinzui> mgz, so I wonder if xml is being removed when the tarball is created because it isn't stated to be required
[16:21] <mgz> natefinch: yeah, that does not compile
[16:21] <mgz> sinzui: we shouln't be tarring up stdlib bits
[16:22] <mgz> sinzui: so, I'm pretty sure the tarball is just fine, it has the forked xml
[16:22] <sinzui> mgz, then lets install std libs on stilson-07
[16:22] <sinzui> mgz, the are not there and I don't think they every were
[16:23] <mgz> sinzui: okay, I think there is an actual bug here, but I'm fine just sticking golang on if that's enough
[16:35] <natefinch> mgz, sinzui: certainly if that 12 line program doesn't compile, it's not a juju issue. Something is fubared with the environment. It seems like installing the go compiler on the machine on which you intend to compile go code should be uncontroversial ;)
[16:36] <natefinch> I have to run for a couple hours to do tax stuff.
[16:36] <sinzui> natefinch, mgz, apt tells me that golang-src isn't available for ppc64el
[16:36] <natefinch> lol
[16:36] <natefinch> sinzui: it's pretty easy to build from source
[16:36] <sinzui> natefinch, I really don't know what provided xml or encodings in the past
[16:36] * natefinch shrugs
[16:37] <natefinch> I gotta run, sorry. http://golang.org/doc/install/source
[16:37] <sinzui> natefinch, the machine is setup using the juju Makefile so we don't create custom setups
[18:27] <mup> Bug #1423936 changed: Juju backup fails when journal files are present <backup-restore> <cts> <juju-core:Fix Released by niedbalski> <juju-core 1.22:Fix Released by niedbalski> <juju-core 1.23:Fix Released by ericsnowcurrently> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1423936>
[18:27] <mup> Bug #1436191 changed: gce: bootstrap instance has no network rule for API <firewall> <gce-provider> <juju-core:Fix Released by dimitern> <juju-core 1.23:Fix Released by dimitern> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1436191>
[18:27] <mup> Bug #1436390 changed: GCE provider config should support extracting auth info from JSON file <gce-provider> <juju-core:Fix Released by ericsnowcurrently> <juju-core 1.23:Fix Released by ericsnowcurrently> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1436390>
[18:27] <mup> Bug #1436397 changed: map-order sensitive test in md/juju/storage needs to be fixed <map-order> <juju-core:Fix Released by anastasia-macmood> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1436397>
[18:27] <mup> Bug #1436415 changed: vivid local template container "juju-vivid-lxc-template" did not stop' <ci> <lxc> <tech-debt> <vivid> <juju-core:Fix Released by ericsnowcurrently> <juju-core 1.23:Fix Released by ericsnowcurrently> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1436415>
[18:27] <mup> Bug #1436655 changed: gce provider should stop using deprecated zone europe-west1-a <gce-provider> <juju-core:Fix Released by wwitzel3> <juju-core 1.23:Fix Released by wwitzel3> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1436655>
[18:27] <mup> Bug #1436988 changed: juju backup/restore is upstart-specific <backup-restore> <systemd> <vivid> <juju-core:Fix Released by ericsnowcurrently> <juju-core 1.23:Fix Released by ericsnowcurrently> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1436988>
[18:27] <mup> Bug #1437038 changed: 1.23b2 fails to get IP from MAAS for containers, falls back to lxcbr0 <addressability> <maas-provider> <network> <juju-core:Fix Released by mfoord> <juju-core 1.23:Fix Released by mfoord> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1437038>
[18:27] <mup> Bug #1437220 changed: gce provider often can't find its own instances <gce-provider> <observability> <juju-core:Fix Released by ericsnowcurrently> <juju-core 1.23:Fix Released by ericsnowcurrently> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1437220>
[18:27] <mup> Bug #1437296 changed: apt-http-proxy being reset to bridge address <local-provider> <proxy> <juju-core:Fix Released by anastasia-macmood> <juju-core 1.22:Fix Released by anastasia-macmood> <juju-core 1.23:Fix Released by anastasia-macmood> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1437296>
[18:27] <mup> Bug #1437366 changed: MAX_ARGS is reached when calling relation-set <charm> <landscape> <relations> <juju-core:Fix Released by ericsnowcurrently> <juju-core 1.23:Fix Released by ericsnowcurrently> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1437366>
[18:27] <mup> Bug #1438748 changed: Use of /tmp/discover_init_system.sh is a security vulnerability. <juju-core:Fix Released by ericsnowcurrently> <juju-core 1.23:Fix Released by ericsnowcurrently> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1438748>
[18:27] <mup> Bug #1439398 changed: GCE low-level RemoveInstances fails if firewalls are not found <juju-core:Fix Released by ericsnowcurrently> <juju-core 1.23:Fix Released by ericsnowcurrently> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1439398>
[18:27] <mup> Bug #1439761 changed: AWS V4 signing does not work <ec2-provider> <juju-core:Fix Released by cox-katherine-e> <juju-core 1.23:Fix Released by cox-katherine-e> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1439761>
[18:28] <voidspace> right, I'm off
[18:28] <voidspace> g'night all
[18:28] <voidspace> EOD
[18:46] <mup> Bug #1441302 was opened: Vivid unit tests are not reliable enough <test-failure> <vivid> <juju-core:Triaged> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1441302>
[20:01] <mup> Bug #1441319 was opened: failed to retrieve the template to clone: template container juju-trusty-lxc-template did not stop <lxc> <oil> <juju-core:Triaged> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1441319>
[20:42] <natefinch> sinzui: anything I can do to help with that gccgo problem?
[20:43] <natefinch> wwitzel3: you going to be on the release call tonight?
[20:44] <sinzui> natefinch, I update the bug with what I learned. gccgo doesn't use goroot. The libgo5 package is still installed and the encoding package is there
[20:44] <sinzui> natefinch, I an currently attempting a reinstall because I I cannot think of anything wlse to do
[20:44] <davecheney> which bug is this ?
[20:45] <mgz> ah, dave is who I wanted
[20:45] <natefinch> davecheney: https://bugs.launchpad.net/juju-core/+bug/1440940
[20:45] <mup> Bug #1440940: xml/marshal.go:10:2: cannot find package "encoding" <ci> <regression> <test-failure> <juju-core:Triaged> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1440940>
[20:45] <davecheney> tada, i'm here in your timezone
[20:45] <davecheney> natefinch: that bug is because someone wrote code with Go 1.4 features
[20:45] <davecheney> (i think)
[20:45] <davecheney> checking
[20:45] * perrito666 managed to organize a go meetup in his city tonight, the whole go community is coming... al 8 of them
[20:46] <mgz> davecheney: so, it started happening because we copied the encoding/xml package into our namespace
[20:47] <davecheney> why they heck did you do that ?
[20:47] <davecheney> sounds like you solved a big problem by lighting a massive house fire
[20:47] <davecheney> s/big/small
[20:47] <mgz> "to make marshalling of namespaced attributes work correctly"
[20:47] <davecheney> in short, we won't get that fix til next year
[20:47] <davecheney> sorry
[20:48] <mgz> anyway, for whatever reason, the import of just "encoding" from that package doesn't work on a vanilla install of gccgo on trusty, for reasons I don't understand
[20:50] <davecheney> mgz: which commit was this ?
[20:51] <mgz> butI believe it came in with the new charmstore api
[20:52] <natefinch> davecheney: note that a simple gccgo run of this code fails on that machine (though it works fine on my machine): http://play.golang.org/p/6b1LdO_13i
[20:52] <mgz> davecheney: note, a trivial script that imports encoding also fails
[20:52] <natefinch> heh
[20:52] <davecheney> maybe that package doesn't exist in gccgo
[20:52] <mgz> (unless you have golang installed as well I believe)
[20:53] <davecheney> mgz: if installing go as well as gccgo fixes the problem
[20:53] <davecheney> that is extremely super bafd
[20:53] <davecheney> that is extremely super bad
[20:53] <mgz> I can confirm that on a fresh amd64 vm if that would be helpful
[20:53] <davecheney> ok
[20:54] <davecheney> in terms of getting a fix
[20:54] <davecheney> you have to roll that back if you want to be able to release this week
[20:54] <davecheney> getting a fix into gccgo-4.9 is impossible on that timeframe
[20:54] <thumper> o/
[20:54] <mgz> the other option maybe is... also forking the root encoding package into juju/
[20:54] <katco> o/ thumper
[20:55] <davecheney> mgz: this sounds like taking a bad situation and making it worse
[20:55] <mgz> of course :)
[20:57] <mgz> or copying in the TextMarshalelr class to the forked package, 's all it uses
[21:01] <wwitzel3> natefinch: yep
[21:06] <natefinch> wwitzel3: cool, thank you. My main concern is this CI bug (https://bugs.launchpad.net/juju-core/+bug/1440940) that is blocking me from getting my HA stuff in. My position is that this is just an environmental problem, not a bug in our code, since they can reproduce the problem with trivial code that doesn't even use juju.
[21:06] <mup> Bug #1440940: xml/marshal.go:10:2: cannot find package "encoding" <ci> <regression> <test-failure> <juju-core:Triaged> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1440940>
[21:06] <natefinch> I gotta run, sorry guys. Good luck.
[21:19] <davecheney> i thought we had a standing rule to revert any change which was blocking CI
[21:20] <mgz> davecheney: yeah, so that hasn't happened in practice, and this was a complex one anyway
[21:20] <mgz> the forking of the package happened a while before it was added as a dep to juju-core,
[21:22] <mgz> and the fact we reuse ppc machines for packaging meant this wasn't caught immediately,
[21:22] <mgz> and everyone whines if we actually block trunk on ppc issues
[21:22] <mgz> so we don't do that any more, but we still need to actually *release* a working juju on ppc
[21:23] <davecheney> this sounds like double speak
[21:23] <davecheney> ppc either blocks releases or it doesn't
[21:23] <davecheney> and from what i'm hearing, it doesn't
[23:10] <katco> axw: do you mind if i ping you later for the standup?
[23:10] <axw> katco: no problem, how much later? I may need to go back downstairs
[23:10] <katco> axw: hour or so from now?
[23:10] <axw> katco: okey dokey
[23:11] <axw> school holidays atm, so I'm easy
[23:57] <katco> axw: is now a good time?
|
ubuntu-chat
|
2024-05-13T22:11:15.914572
| 2015-04-07T00:00:00 |
{
"license": "Public Domain",
"authors": [
"TheMue",
"alexisb",
"axw",
"cherylj",
"davecheney",
"dimitern",
"dooferlad",
"ericsnow",
"jam",
"katco",
"lazyPower",
"mgz",
"mup",
"natefinch",
"perrito666",
"rick_h_",
"rogpeppe1",
"rvba",
"sinzui",
"thumper",
"voidspace",
"wwitzel3"
],
"url": "https://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2015/04/07/%23juju-dev.txt",
"channel": "#juju-dev"
}
|
2015-04-07-#ubuntu-website
|
[17:43] <PabloRubianes> daker:ping
[17:43] <daker> PabloRubianes: pong
[17:43] <PabloRubianes> hello
[17:43] <PabloRubianes> :)
[17:43] <PabloRubianes> have a minute?
[17:43] <daker> PabloRubianes: yes
[17:44] <PabloRubianes> I wanted to talk to you about the upgrade of the LTP bug
[17:44] <daker> PabloRubianes: yes, i think the first thing we need to do before we start is talk the sysadmins
[17:44] <daker> to the*
[17:44] <PabloRubianes> sure
[17:45] <PabloRubianes> can you give me some form of contact them I can email them
[17:45] <daker> PabloRubianes: i'll do that
[17:45] <PabloRubianes> great
[17:45] <daker> i'll CC you
[17:45] <PabloRubianes> thanks
[17:46] <daker> we need to see to which version they are going to upgrade
[17:46] <PabloRubianes> daker: 1.8 was released
[17:46] <PabloRubianes> https://www.djangoproject.com/weblog/2015/apr/01/release-18-final/
[17:46] <daker> since the upgrades are only from the archive
[17:47] <PabloRubianes> there is the list of the versions that have support
[17:47] <daker> PabloRubianes: yes i know, the issue is that they won't install if it doesn't exist on the archive
[17:47] <PabloRubianes> ok
[17:48] <daker> if we are running 14.04 on the server they will only install the version present on the 14.04 archive
[17:50] <PabloRubianes> I understand, so i'll wait for they to answer
[17:53] <daker> thanks
[17:54] <PabloRubianes> no problem, as I think you are the only one taking care of the LTP I think I can help you
|
ubuntu-chat
|
2024-05-13T22:11:15.924563
| 2015-04-07T00:00:00 |
{
"license": "Public Domain",
"authors": [
"PabloRubianes",
"daker"
],
"url": "https://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2015/04/07/%23ubuntu-website.txt",
"channel": "#ubuntu-website"
}
|
2015-04-07-#ubuntu-touch
|
[00:12] <nhaines> embrik: you can look for the right tools in the PPA, but it wasn't until Ubuntu 14.04 that they started shipping with Ubuntu.
[00:13] <nhaines> MTP support works out of the box, and you can use adb or phablet-shell (with phablet-tools installed) to get a terminal on your phone via USB.
[00:13] <nhaines> The phone simply doesn't have Bluetooth support outside of headset support yet. It's a work in progress.
[00:21] <embrik> exit
[00:21] <embrik> leave
[01:02] <muka_> is there a way to press ctrl+x in terminal?
[01:08] <danrik> what phone can I buy that I can install ubuntu image on?
[01:08] <danrik> ^so it works more or less reliably....
[01:23] <danrik> buzz
[01:25] <danrik> what phone can I buy that I can install ubuntu image on?
[01:31] <lotuspsychje> danrik: nexus 5
[01:31] <lotuspsychje> !devices | danrik
[01:32] <lotuspsychje> danrik: but you might wanna investigate whats working and what still in progress, before you buy
[01:33] <lotuspsychje> danrik: for tablet nexus7 works pretty nice
[01:42] <danrik> lotuspsychje, any 5.5 inch smartphones?
[01:42] <lotuspsychje> danrik: check the XDA forums for more projects, the nexus devices are the most supported devices for the moment
[01:43] <lotuspsychje> danrik: and 2 brands sell the smartphones with ubunut: BQ and Meizu
[01:46] <danrik> lotuspsychje, meizu doesnt sell em yet - right?
[01:47] <lotuspsychje> danrik: wont take long i think
[01:47] <danrik> lotuspsychje, yeh. thats what they say :(
[01:48] <lotuspsychje> danrik: im sure other companys will follow in the future
[01:49] <lotuspsychje> danrik: but for now, if you can get a grab of a nexus5 think its your nicest bet (cheapest perhaps)
[01:49] <lotuspsychje> 2nd hand nexus5 maybe
[01:51] <danrik> lotuspsychje, and even nexus 5 it says that bluetooth doesnt work and has power issues.....
[01:52] <danrik> sigh. ive been waiting for a long time. but now mmy phone is busted and I think Ill just get another android.
[01:52] <lotuspsychje> danrik: android is just so unsafe..
[01:52] <lotuspsychje> danrik: you dont like Bq specs?
[01:53] <danrik> lotuspsychje, yeah - specs is a killer :(
[01:53] <lotuspsychje> danrik: so why not buy the Bq with ubuntu then? its 169 euro
[01:54] <danrik> lotuspsychje, because bq phone has small screen and other low specs?
[01:55] <lotuspsychje> ok then wait for meizu :p
[01:55] <danrik> lotuspsychje, cant unfortunately. :( work stuff. gotta have a phone. been waiting using (sigh) 5year old dropid incredible. - but now it broke.
[01:56] <lotuspsychje> :p
[01:56] <lotuspsychje> danrik: i hear roomers they installed ubuntu touch on a one+one smartphone also
[01:56] <lotuspsychje> maybe investigate this?
[01:56] <danrik> lotuspsychje, YES!
[01:57] <danrik> lotuspsychje, i was gonna buy that one anyway cuz of low price and cyanogen.
[01:57] <lotuspsychje> check youtubes on that one with touch
[01:58] <danrik> fucking ubuntu. it's like J.J. MArtinsen - "ohh don't worry - dragons are coming"
[01:58] <danrik> "hope and change" bitches
[01:59] <lotuspsychje> lets keep it familly friendly here :p
[01:59] <danrik> whatever:) I'll just get one plus for now :)
[01:59] <lotuspsychje> danrik: check the ubuntu touch video's on 1+1
[02:03] <danrik> lotuspsychje, hmm. it says blutooth, mobile data and wifi arent working. heh.
[02:03] <danrik> lotuspsychje, guess im gonna be rocking cyanogen for now.
[02:34] <DonkeyHotei> danrik: the development model has been the nexus4, not the nexus5
[02:34] <DonkeyHotei> video playback doesn't work on the nexus5 either
[02:36] <danrik> DonkeyHotei, heh. that's fine. I've already ordered one plus one.
[02:37] <DonkeyHotei> one plus one support is a work in progress
[02:37] <danrik> DonkeyHotei, yeah. so im gonna be using android for now I guess.
[02:37] <DonkeyHotei> most things don't work on the one plus one yet
[02:38] <danrik> DonkeyHotei, when ubuntu phone with acceptable hardware gonna gonna come out - Ill just buy it.
[02:38] <DonkeyHotei> like the meizu mx4?
[02:39] <danrik> DonkeyHotei, well - whatever gonbna come out. mx4 or m1 note or whatever. :)
[02:53] <phix> lotuspsychje: I don't know many kiddies that use IRC these days :)
[02:54] <lotuspsychje> ?
[05:28] <Guest75847> Hi : I see the location in platform-api/src/ubuntu/application/ubuntu_application_api.cpp file and know the location is a .so library, but the implement of src/ubuntu/application/common/application/location/instance.h is invoke the ubuntu-location-serviced daemon through dbus-cpp, so exactly what is the location of "IMPLEMENT_VOID_FUNCTION1(location, xxx,xxx)" in ubuntu_application_api.cpp ?
[05:32] <Guest75847> and I do not find .so file named location.so in /usr/lib/arm-linux-gnueabihf/ directory of device
[06:16] <OscarBookworm> Some issues after installing devel on Nexus 10: earphone jack won't work, music app title won't start, browser is very buggy, does anybody else have these experiences?
[06:17] <nhaines> The music app isn't (I believe) working in devel-proposed at all whatsoever for anyone right now. But should be in a week or two.
[06:17] <nhaines> There's basically no attention being given to the tablet right now. I suspect that will change some time in the next 6 months.
[06:20] <OscarBookworm> I followed the official installation instructions and installed devel, anyway which image will currently fit at best for the Nexus 10?
[06:20] <nhaines> Probably devel-proposed, but as I said, no one's working on the tablet. Everything's still focused on the phones at the moment.
[06:21] <nhaines> I get a Nexus 7 in the mail some time in the next 48 hours. Hopefully it'll be useful but I'm expecting to spend a lot of time dual-booting between Ubuntu and Android until 15.10.
[06:23] <OscarBookworm> ok, I'm going to test a little bit more and wait for better times. How can I officially report ubuntu-touch bugs to Canonical?
[06:24] <nhaines> Ubuntu Touch isn't really something that exists separately from Ubuntu, so you'll need to report the bug against the specific software exhibiting the problem on Launchpad.
[06:24] <nhaines> Someone here can probably help you find out what software package if you have something specific in mind.
[08:22] <georg1982> Hi is there a way to change the partition layout on a ubunutu phone running on a nexus 5 during runtime?
[08:24] <Guest75847> Hi : I see the location in platform-api/src/ubuntu/application/ubuntu_application_api.cpp file and know the location is a .so library, but the implement of src/ubuntu/application/common/application/location/instance.h is invoke the ubuntu-location-serviced daemon through dbus-cpp, so exactly what is the location of "IMPLEMENT_VOID_FUNCTION1(location, xxx,xxx)" in ubuntu_application_api.cpp ?
[08:24] <Guest75847> and I do not find .so file named location.so in /usr/lib/arm-linux-gnueabihf/ directory of device
[08:25] <Guest75847> ???
[08:26] <ogra_> Guest75847, wow, thats pretty detailed, i think tvoss and ricmm should be able to help you
[08:27] <tvoss> Guest75847, what are you exactly trying to do? :=)
[08:28] <tvoss> Guest75847, IMPLEMENT_VOID_FUNCTION1 is a macro defined by the platform api impl.
[08:35] <ogra_> Laney, what do we do with silo4 now ?
[08:35] <Laney> ogra_: thought you had an idea
[08:35] <Laney> I don't
[08:35] <Laney> maybe take didrocks stuff which doesn't have this issue, not sure how many changes that is
[08:36] <didrocks> OOC?
[08:37] <didrocks> I guess you are talking about whoopsie-preferences and such
[08:37] <ogra_> yes
[08:38] <Laney> mutilating the code to work around this limitation would be quite sad
[08:38] <ogra_> so we just discussed it in the landing meeting
[08:38] <didrocks> whoopsie-preferences is for vivid-only
[08:38] <didrocks> or rather, with latest whoopsie
[08:38] <didrocks> which moved the conffiles
[08:38] <ogra_> my idea was to change livecd-rootfs the same way we do for timezone and hostname settings
[08:39] <ogra_> so that the file actually lives in a writable dir
[08:39] <Laney> that required hacks in systemd too
[08:39] <Laney> pitti bears the scars
[08:39] <ogra_> then we can write atomically to it
[08:39] <ogra_> but ....
[08:39] <didrocks> I'm really out of context about the issue/what you are trying to solve
[08:39] <ogra_> thats to big of a change to do it right now
[08:40] <ogra_> so we will prepare it but not land it ... and can land it after the OTA *if needed*
[08:40] <didrocks> Laney: for whoopsie? no systemd hacks AFAIK
[08:40] <Laney> no
[08:41] <Laney> for /etc/timezone & co
[08:42] <ogra_> right, but vivid doesnt use /etc/default anymore
[08:42] <ogra_> so there we shouldnt need the hack
[08:42] <didrocks> ah ok
[08:42] <ogra_> unless you atomically write to the .override file
[08:43] <didrocks> ogra_: I guess you can forget about the atomic call as long as we have all those bindmounts…
[08:43] <didrocks> apart if you make the dir writable, of course
[08:43] <oSoMoN> rpadovani, hey, good morning! I added one more comment to https://code.launchpad.net/~rpadovani/webbrowser-app/settings-page/+merge/253975
[08:43] <ogra_> (which would then be really tricky ... since we cant draw the same trick for upstart jobs)
[08:47] <Guest75847> Hi tvoss: I know the macro, and the macro implement eventually will load a library, and the library name will be passed from declare place such as in "IMPLEMENT_VOID_FUNCTION1(location, xxx,xxx)" location is the library name ?
[08:48] <Guest75847> hello tvoss?
[08:54] <tvoss> Guest75847, the library loading is handle by http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~phablet-team/platform-api/trunk/view/head:/src/bridge/bridge.h
[08:54] <tvoss> Guest75847, where Bridge means the bridge between bionic and glibc world
[08:55] <tvoss> Guest75847, the IMPLEMENT_VOID_FUNCTION* macros only resolve symbols from the loaded library
[08:55] <robin-hero> Hi all! When will be the next OTA update release this week?
[08:55] <ogra_> sil2100, jibel ^^^
[08:56] <ogra_> robin-hero, i think it goes to bq first for sign off, before it goes public
[08:56] <robin-hero> ogra_: And what is this mean?
[08:57] <ogra_> that it might not be this week :)
[08:57] <tvoss> Guest75847, does that answer you question?
[08:57] <robin-hero> ogra_: Oh, I am very sad, I can't wait for the new update because the better battery life :( :D
[08:58] <Guest75847> so where is location.so in "IMPLEMENT_VOID_FUNCTION1(location, xxx,xxx)" ?
[08:58] <ogra_> yeah, i guessed so
[08:58] <robin-hero> ogra_: is the proposed channel enough stable for every day use?
[08:58] <ogra_> robin-hero, i might be worng, thats why io pinged jibel and sil2100, one of them should know
[08:59] <sil2100> Hey
[09:00] <ogra_> sil2100, do you knwo if we push out the image directly or does it go to bq first ?
[09:00] <sil2100> robin-hero: due to the holiday-delays, I suppose the OTA will be made available to the users next week, since we will start the release process for it later today
[09:01] <sil2100> ogra_: BQ needs to sign it off as well
[09:01] <ogra_> right
[09:01] <sil2100> So it's a 2 step sign-off process indeed :)
[09:01] <ogra_> sil2100, we should make that more clear in the landing mails
[09:01] <JamesTait> Good morning all; happy Tuesday, and happy World Health Day! :-D
[09:01] <sil2100> ogra_: right, I'll do that
[09:01] <ogra_> i.e. that "we release this week" means nothing to the user
[09:01] <robin-hero> sil2100: Thanks for the answer.
[09:02] <ogra_> (apart from "wait for bq now" ... )
[09:02] <nhaines> I'm happy because unless UPS intentionally sits on my package, I'll get my Nexus 7 later today! :D
[09:03] <nhaines> I guess that devel-proposed is still the best channel for tablets?
[09:03] <sil2100> ogra_: usually BQ signs it off in around a day, so in the best case it shouldn't be much delay
[09:03] <sil2100> But yeah
[09:03] <ogra_> nhaines, yeps
[09:03] <nhaines> ogra_: thanks. :)
[09:03] <ogra_> sil2100, right, we just need to get user expectations right, to not cause ddisappointment
[09:05] <robin-hero> ogra: So my question again: Is 14.09-proposed channel enough stable for everyday use? If yes, how can I change to this channel?
[09:06] <ogra_> robin-hero, if it is only for getting the OTA earlier, i wouldnt ... after the OTA that channel might see breakage until it is stablized for the next OTA
[09:08] <ogra_> (if it is to help testing and fixing such breakage, sure then switch, but be aware that there might be issues after the OTA went out which you will likely have to deal with)
[09:09] <nhaines> ogra_: can you roll back updates?
[09:09] <ogra_> you will, once we base on snappy :)
[09:09] <nhaines> \o/
[09:09] <ogra_> but not now, no ...
[09:09] <ogra_> you can re-flash with a former version
[09:09] <nhaines> Is that a 15.10 thing?
[09:09] <ogra_> snappy ? yeah, kind of ...
[09:10] <ogra_> we still have some issues with the age of the device kernels that arent easy to solve
[09:10] <robin-hero> ogra_: but I think every update in 14.09-proposed channel needs a QA signoff, it isn't true?
[09:10] <ogra_> (snappy requires systemd, our systemd version (latest upstream) dropped support for older kernels)
[09:10] <nhaines> Yes, of course.
[09:11] <nhaines> robin-hero: no, 14.09-proposed is where the updates land and then the QA reports lead to the next version as they stabilize so that a promotion to 14.09 can happen.
[09:11] <ogra_> robin-hero, the package bundles (silos) need QA signoff ... but that might not catch issues that only happen if the silo is built into the image ... every release from -proposed to the actual OTA channel needs QA (and bq) signoff
[09:12] <ogra_> but we dont test every single -proposed image
[09:12] <robin-hero> ogra_: nhaines: Ah, now it is clear, thanks
[09:13] <Guest75847> Hi tvoss: QtLocation will call to these interface about location in platform-api/src/ubuntu/application/ubuntu_application_api.cpp eventually ?
[09:14] <tvoss> Guest75847, QtLocation will call to http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~phablet-team/platform-api/trunk/view/head:/include/ubuntu/application/location/service.h
[09:14] <tvoss> and http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~phablet-team/platform-api/trunk/view/head:/include/ubuntu/application/location/session.h
[09:14] <tvoss> Guest75847, QtLocation does not know anything about the implementation of the platform api
[09:18] <ZacharyI123> Whenever I try to locate myself, the app/scope/whatever I am using does not manage to locate me even if location detection and GPS are on. The only way I manage to locate myself is through being connected to a wireless network. I am using a nexus 4 running stable 14.09. Help?
[09:19] <ogra_> ZacharyI123, the nexus4 images do not have the HERE location provider installed, GPS needs up to 20min to get a sattelite fix ...
[09:19] <EdwardMorbius> hi, how can I move .crash file from the phone? I used sudo to change permissions for it (copied it to Documents) but phone refuses to attach it in gmail, and desktop says libmtp error cannot get file from device
[09:20] <ZacharyI123> GPS is always on, I never turn it off. Still getting no location :(
[09:20] <ogra_> EdwardMorbius, they get deleted automatically a while after they got uploaded automatically
[09:20] <ogra_> ZacharyI123, being outdoors ?
[09:20] <ZacharyI123> The map app always says geoloction failed unless wifi is on
[09:20] <EdwardMorbius> ogra_ I have the file copied to Documents
[09:20] <ZacharyI123> Outdoors, indoors and driving
[09:20] <EdwardMorbius> and this one wasnt uploaded according to whoopsie
[09:21] <ogra_> there is a "SensorStatus" app in the store
[09:21] <ogra_> that should give a little more info about GPS (just a little thouh)
[09:22] <ZacharyI123> I will just get it now brb
[09:22] <ZacharyI123> ty
[09:22] <ogra_> EdwardMorbius, sudo /usr/share/apport/whoopsie-upload-all
[09:23] <ogra_> EdwardMorbius, that should trigger an upload of the file
[09:23] <EdwardMorbius> ogra_ ok thanks I will try that now
[09:23] <Guest75847> thanks for the answer! and would you please talk about the calling process, such as QtLocation (QML)->QtLocation(C++)->....service.h/session.h? I don't know I need to
[09:23] <ogra_> you can watch the progess in /var/log/upstart/whoopsie.log
[09:24] <Guest75847> use QtLocation (QML) or QtLocation(C++)
[09:24] <ZacharyI123> ogra_ SensorStatus installed. The GPS bit has a green tick for Found supported backend, the Mathod says Satelite, and everything else is blank. What can I do?
[09:24] <EdwardMorbius> ogra_ I got an error for the file
[09:24] <ogra_> EdwardMorbius, what error ?
[09:25] <EdwardMorbius> error processing compressed file ended before the end-of-stream-marker etc
[09:25] <EdwardMorbius> that is for the crash file I wanted to move from the phone
[09:25] <ogra_> thats inside the file ? or when opening it
[09:25] <EdwardMorbius> that is reported in the terminal whey I type the command you provided
[09:26] <ogra_> ah
[09:26] <EdwardMorbius> file corrupted maybe or something?
[09:26] <ogra_> well, i'm not sure it makes actual sense to upload a corrupt file
[09:26] <ogra_> probably it crashed whhile compressing
[09:26] <EdwardMorbius> oh too bad its corrupted, it was related to unity8 freeze.
I have tried SensorStatus. The GPS bit has a green tick for 'Found supported backend', the 'Method' says 'Satelite', and everything else is blank. What can I do?
[09:27] <ogra_> Saviq, ^^^ do you gain anything from EdwardMorbius uploading a corrupt crash file for unity8
[09:27] <ogra_> ?
[09:27] <Saviq> ogra_, EdwardMorbius, nope, sorries
[09:27] <ogra_> ZacharyI123, well, that looks like GPS is on but doesnt have a sattelite fix
[09:28] <EdwardMorbius> Saviq ok then I was just planning to update the bug report and say the file is corrupted but no need now
[09:28] <ogra_> on the N4 i actually have to leave the device outside on the window shelf for 20-30 min to get GPS at all
[09:28] <ZacharyI123> Strange. Could a case interfere? Tbh I haven't reflashed for ages so I may try that. Maybe one of the devel/devel-rpoposed builds will give me more luck
[09:29] <ZacharyI123> That's not good. I hope the bq/meizu are a damn lot better!
[09:29] <ogra_> what channel are you on currently ?
[09:29] <ZacharyI123> stable
[09:29] <ogra_> thats really ancient
[09:29] <ZacharyI123> haha, what should I go for?
[09:29] <ogra_> and yes, bq and meizu ship the nokia HERE provider ...
[09:30] <ZacharyI123> that's good, can I change my channel without reflashing?
[09:30] <ogra_> well, dveel-proposed is still a bit bugy, but there location should work
[09:30] <ZacharyI123> cheers
[09:30] <ogra_> devel (without proposed) is also pretty old (december) but i dont know if location is fixed or not in that image
[09:32] <ZacharyI123> so is it only devel-rpoposed that has the location fixed?
[09:32] <ZacharyI123> and how can I change the channel (if possible) without reflashing?
[09:36] <ZacharyI123> ogra_ ???
[09:37] <ogra_> via adb ...
[09:37] <ogra_> see the system-image-cli command, it has a --switch option
[09:38] <ZacharyI123> fab, thanks! right, is it only devel-proposed that has location fixed?
[09:38] <ogra_> (needs sudo to execute ... no sudo to read the --help output ;) )
[09:38] <ZacharyI123> ok :)
[09:38] <ogra_> i dont know, i havent touched an N4 in a long time ... but if it is fixed, proposed is the most likely channel to have the fix
[09:39] <ZacharyI123> ok thanks!
[09:40] <ZacharyI123> at least the release devices work, very tempted to get the bq, or the meizu when its out
[09:40] <ogra_> +1
[09:40] <ZacharyI123> with the nexus, due to limited ram, my background apps close as I am using them :(
[09:40] <ogra_> that is by design though
[09:41] <ogra_> apps you put in bg get sig-stopped ... if the ram is used up they get sig-killed, if you foreground them, they should start again though
[09:42] <ZacharyI123> yeah, still lose your place
[09:42] <ZacharyI123> I am waiting for meizu, any clues when and how it will be out?
[09:44] <nhaines> ZacharyI123: Meizu decides all that internally.
[09:44] <nhaines> Even if anyone outside of Meizu *did* know, it'd be under NDA.
[09:44] <ZacharyI123> right, should be soon though?
[09:45] <nhaines> ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
[09:48] <popey> "soon"
[09:51] <k1l> \o/
[09:51] <nhaines> Soon: http://i.imgur.com/9QQh8qT.jpg
[09:53] <tvoss> ogra_, please note that the LastSeen timestamps on wifis in vivid are corrupt
[09:53] <tvoss> ZacharyI123, ^
[09:54] <tvoss> with that, network-based positioning might not work at all or be flaky
[09:55] <tvoss> Guest75847, QML or C++ is up to you, both just works (tm), modulo bugs in the positioning stack
[09:57] <Guest75847> OK, thank tvoss, I'll try!
[10:15] <Anon_189473> Hello! I had originally planned to purchase a Nexus7 for Ubuntu Touch. I had ordered two stickers to 'personalise' the device (see www.ebay.co.uk/itm/161646250081 and http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/111507947637 ). Unfortunately I did not get on with UT on my E4.5, which I have subsequently returned. I have no interest now in purchasing the Nexus7 and as such as the stickers are surplus. Would anybody like these? (Ideally UK). L
[10:17] <ogra_> Anon_189473, oh :(
[10:17] <ogra_> Anon_189473, why did you not get along with the bq ?
[10:18] <Anon_189473> ogra_: Just too many things not quite there for use as a daily phone for me (bluetooth support for handsfree being one significant example). I understand it's a platform in development and I'm still excited about it but it's just a little too green for me at this stage... Maybe in the future? :-)
[10:19] <ogra_> ah .. well, the next OTA (within this or early next week) will fix a ton of these issues
[10:19] <ogra_> but yeah, if you feel it is to "green" then it isnt for you indeed
[10:20] * ogra_ uses an ubuntu phone as daily driver since about 1 year ... no android around me ... and i havent looked back yet ... but my demands are probably different
[10:21] <Anon_189473> ogra_: Maybe I should have waited another week then. Or maybe the UT release should have been held another week? Either way, some people can live with it and some not. As I say, I'm still really interested in the project and you guys should proud of where you're at with it, but it's just too soon for me.
[10:22] <Anon_189473> And - on that note - that's why I don't need those stickers. I could toss them in the bin but I gathered it was worth checking if anybody else was interested before I did so... I know putting stickers on your gadgets is not something some people are happy with though :-)
[10:22] <ogra_> well, reality is that we cant really test all corner cases, external hardware etc etc ... so we kind of need reports from community people that catch such issues we didnt or couldnt test
[10:23] <ogra_> i think for an 1.0 release we did pretty well ... definitely not worse to IOS 1.0 or android 1.0
[10:23] <ogra_> and with the ~8 days of battery life i get with the current OTA proposed image i think we even advanced beyoond them
[10:24] * Anon_189473 was always quite fond of Android on the HTC Dream/G1 - But I suppose that was many years a go and expectations change :)
[10:27] <popey> reminds me ogra_, next time you reboot your phone, please pull the sd card out :)
[10:27] <ogra_> popey, oh, i still owe you an info, right
[10:28] <ogra_> (i'm pretty convinced any SD will work though, i'D like to test a 128G one one day)
[10:56] <dednick> seb128: hey. trying to run AP tests for system settings. getting an error:
[10:56] <dednick> dbus.exceptions.DBusException: org.freedesktop.DBus.Python.dbus.exceptions.DBusException: ('org.freedesktop.NetworkManager.DoesNotExist', 'Access point with SSID [fake ssid] could not be found')
[10:56] <dednick> any idea?
[10:59] <Guest75847> Hi tvoss?
[10:59] <tvoss> hey
[11:01] <Guest75847> I find two libubuntu_application_api.so, one is in platform/android/hybris/, and aother is in platform/src/ubuntu/application/
[11:03] <Guest75847> Do you know the difference?
[11:08] <ogra_> dednick, looks like the device isnt set up properly to allow dbus
[11:08] <ogra_> did you do all the preparation stuff needed for AP tests ?
[11:09] <dednick> ogra_: hm. I might have reflashed since i last did that. thanks
[11:12] <seb128> dednick, unsure, check with jgdx
[11:12] <seb128> that seems like the recent dbusmock changes
[11:13] <dednick> seb128: yeah. i just saw there were changes to those tests. i've merged latest and rebuilding now.
[11:14] <seb128> k
[11:15] <tvoss> Guest75847, you only need to consider the one that is installed in /usr/lib/${arch}/lib...
[11:20] <Guest75847> I see libubuntu_application_api.so/.so.2/.so.2.9.0,and the 3 so all can work!
[11:20] <Guest75847> in /usr/lib/${arch}/ directory
[11:21] <cotton> hi everyone
[11:23] <cotton> Any news about the date for the next April ota update ?
[11:23] <cotton> Thanks
[11:24] <ogra_> cotton, i just answered the same question on the mailing list
[11:25] <Guest75847> thank tvoss， see you！
[11:25] <tvoss> Guest75847, yup
[11:37] <jgdx> dednick, hey, do a sync with trunk, the fix for that should be in there.
[11:47] <sturmflut-work> Just out of curiosity, am I the only one "fighting" with Mundo Reader Germany's customer service?
[11:59] <sturmflut-work> Hmmm, I put my Aquaris E4.5 down five minutes ago and it automagically rebooted into Fastboot mode. What to do now?
[12:00] <ogra_> weird, havent seen that
[12:00] <sturmflut-work> Okay, holding POWER+VOLUME_UP got me into the boot menu and now it is back up again
[12:01] <sturmflut-work> ogra_: This is the first time this happened, but I only got the phone yesterday evening
[12:01] <ogra_> battery charged ?
[12:01] <sturmflut-work> ogra_: Jep, 34% charged
[12:01] <popey> one of my "friends" managed to poke the phone into fastboot in a bar at fosdem
[12:01] <ogra_> popey, by putting it down ?
[12:02] <popey> not sure what he did, i handed it to him, he handed it back and said "not ready for prime time"
[12:02] <popey> at the time i didn't know the special move to get out of fastboot which was frustrating
[12:02] <ogra_> worst case juts hold power until it hard reboots
[12:03] <sturmflut-work> ogra_: I did, how long do you have to hold the power button on the E4.5 until it aborts fastboot mode and reboots? Because I held it for like 20 seconds and nothing happened
[12:03] <ogra_> pretty long i think
[12:04] <popey> longer than you think
[12:04] <ogra_> john-mcaleely would know i guess
[12:05] <dednick> jgdx: ta
[12:05] <sturmflut-work> Hmmm, I somehow automatically expected that it was about ten seconds because it is about ten seconds on the Android devices I have
[12:05] <sturmflut-work> My fault
[12:06] <ogra_> it is a few secs in all other modes iirc
[12:06] <popey> i do like the "powered by ubuntu" thing on the retail phone
[12:06] <popey> and the origami background
[12:06] <ogra_> mine is still in the box :)
[12:07] <sturmflut-work> It is actually a pretty neat device. I was surprised by how much lighter than the Nexus 4 it feels
[12:08] <ogra_> it is also impressingly fast compared to the N$
[12:08] <ogra_> *N4
[12:09] <ogra_> (mostly thanks to the small resoultion i thinnk)
[12:13] <adexmont> hi :)
[12:13] <popey> hello
[12:14] <adexmont> i'm here to get some information about ubuntu-touch and parallella platform
[12:14] <adexmont> is there anyone that already tryed this ?
[12:15] <popey> AlanBell: did you get your parallella?
[12:15] <davidcalle> adexmont, parallella have their own Ubuntu spin
[12:16] <davidcalle> adexmont, https://github.com/parallella/pubuntu
[12:16] <adexmont> yes, i know that, just looking for some other lightweight os alternatives
[12:16] <davidcalle> Oh, ok
[12:17] <ogra_> adexmont, there are snappy images for parallella ...
[12:17] <ogra_> cant get any lighter ubuntu (though snappy doesnt have any UI bits yet)
[12:20] <adexmont> i was looking for a sort of android instead of ubuntu (maybe on arm can perform better ?) but i will not able to compile from scratch
[12:20] <ogra_> you think java performs better on arm ?!?
[12:20] <ogra_> heh
[12:21] <ogra_> if you have an android 4.4 tree you could try porting ubuntu though :)
[12:21] <adexmont> don't know, just looking at smartphone that run a worst cpu than zynq7020 and perform better
[12:21] <ogra_> (we use the binary drivers from android in ubuntu, you need a minimal tree to build the container we run after startup)
[12:24] <AlanBell> popey: yes, but I have no clue what to do with it
[12:26] <cleiton> good day, anyone know how to install or configure ubuntu with the features of ubuntu-touch?
[12:31] <adexmont> thanks
[12:32] <cleiton> bom dia, alguem sabe como instalar ou configurar o ubuntu com as funcionalidades do ubuntu-touch?
[12:40] <sturmflut-work> cleiton: you can install Ubuntu 15.04 and then install unity8. But it isn't ready for primetime yet.
[12:40] <ogra_> yu can also try the desktop-next images
[12:40] <ogra_> (on a PC )
[12:44] <cleiton> sturmflut-work: thanks!!
[12:46] <robin-hero> I didn't find the file uploading option in messages in the Facebook webapp. Is it possible that it isn't supported?
[12:49] <ogra_> robin-hero, what kind of file ?
[12:49] <robin-hero> like pictures
[12:50] <robin-hero> I want to share a picture in the messages
[12:50] <cleiton> Does anyone know how to configure ubuntu with accelerometer functionality, automatic rotating screen?
[12:50] <ogra_> robin-hero, you need to open the allery app (or camera), opne the pic ... there is a menu at the top right ... select "share" and then select facebook from the popup dialog
[12:50] <ogra_> *gallery
[12:51] <robin-hero> ogra: but this is share the picture on my wall, right? But I want to share it in the chat.
[12:52] * ogra_ has no facebook account ... i donw know the difference :)
[12:52] <robin-hero> I can send stickers, but not photo/picture
[12:53] <robin-hero> ogra_: When will be your new G+ webapp available? I don't like the actual version.
[12:54] <ogra_> robin-hero, you can sideload my click ...
[12:54] <sturmflut-work> cleiton: There is an article by John Wells about Ubuntu on tablets, http://www.jfwhome.com/2014/03/07/perfect-ubuntu-or-other-linux-on-the-asus-transformer-book-t100/ , and there he mentions a script he wrote to rotate the screen, https://github.com/jfwells/linux-asus-t100ta/tree/master/rotation/lib/udev
[12:54] <sturmflut-work> cleiton: But it doesn't use the accelerometer yet
[12:55] <sturmflut-work> cleiton: I don't know if the rotation feature in Unity8 makes use of accelerometers on "normal" tablets and PCs, or if it just works on the phone.
[12:56] <cleiton> sturmflut-work: ok
[12:56] <dbarth_> alex-abreu: ^^ about sharing on facebook
[12:57] <alex-abreu> dbarth_, robin-hero there is an issue w/ the user agent there that makes it not possible to access some fb photo share bits, I need to fix it
[12:57] <DrGnomage> Hello everyone, just wondering is the screen dimming while playing a video a bug or should it be dimming after ~40 seconds?
[12:58] <ogra_> robin-hero, download http://people.canonical.com/~ogra/ubuntu-touch/google-plus.ogra_0.2_all.click ... enable developer mode and push it via adb to /home/phablet/ .... then log in and run: pkcon install-local --allow-untrusted google-plus.ogra_0.2_all.click
[12:59] <cleiton> sturmflut-work: I'm from Brazil and here the information are very few on touch technology.
[12:59] <cleiton> sturmflut-work: Thank you for your attention
[12:59] <ogra_> alex-abreu, hey ho ... so i'm looking for a way to get direct photo and video sharing from camera and gallery to work in my alternate G+ app... ken pointed me to your latest G+ commits, but i dont really see how you do the picasa uploads (or youtube), is that actually supposed to work in your last commit ?
[12:59] <sturmflut-work> cleiton: No problem! What kind of device are you using?
[13:00] <ogra_> alex-abreu, i would expect some C++ handler that does the login and pushing to the photos/video places G+ uses
[13:00] <alex-abreu> ogra_, I dont do picassa uploads
[13:00] <ogra_> but how do you upload then ?
[13:00] <robin-hero> alex-abreu: thanks, is there a bug report for it?
[13:00] <cleiton> sturmflut-work: Lenovo yoga 2 13
[13:00] <alex-abreu> ogra_, g+ is very nasty as an app, there are no g+ apis for uploads etc.
[13:00] <ogra_> the /share? url only takes a URL parameter
[13:00] <ogra_> right, i know
[13:01] <ogra_> i'm banging my head against this since two weeks :)
[13:01] <alex-abreu> ogra_, so it is very very inconvenient to work w/, ... so the only option there was to play w/ the dom and the webview internals
[13:01] <ogra_> oh !
[13:01] <alex-abreu> ogra_, yeah this is depressingly bad
[13:01] <alex-abreu> no apis and such
[13:01] <ogra_> nah ... just inconvenient
[13:01] <alex-abreu> robin-hero, yes hold on a sec
[13:01] <ogra_> there are apis for picasa and for youtube
[13:01] <ogra_> you just need to somehow get them integrated
[13:01] <sturmflut-work> cleiton: Nice! Please do report back about your progress.
[13:02] <ogra_> (which is rather a bigger thing to do indeed)
[13:02] <cleiton> ok
[13:02] <alex-abreu> ogra_, well more than that, ... the code is very britle since it relies on a given dom structure, and google made it so that you have no anchor point in terms of class/id, everything is "anonymized"
[13:03] <ogra_> yeah, they seem to use some random number generator for names :)
[13:03] <alex-abreu> ogra_, the picassa api afaik are somewhat deprecated, and they dont allow you to post on your g+ wall anyway
[13:03] <ogra_> but they usually dont change at least
[13:03] <cleiton> sturmflut-work: ok
[13:03] <ogra_> they allow you to use the lh3.googlecontent url ...
[13:04] <ogra_> so you upload to picasa/google-photos ... obtain that url ... and re-use the /share url
[13:04] <ogra_> same should work with youtube
[13:04] <alex-abreu> ogra_, pretty much as dirty as the dom thing :)
[13:04] <ogra_> yeah
[13:05] <ogra_> but will give you video too :)
[13:05] <alex-abreu> ogra_, video upload is not so much of an issue, the same dirty dome bit would work
[13:05] <alex-abreu> dom
[13:05] * ogra_ will take a look
[13:06] <ogra_> is that in a userscript ?
[13:06] <alex-abreu> robin-hero, https://bugs.launchpad.net/webbrowser-app/+bug/1392331
[13:06] <alex-abreu> ogra_, it's a mix
[13:06] <ogra_> i got in-app photo sharing working OOTB ... just not the external bits
[13:07] <ogra_> (as well as URL sharing from content-hub)
[13:07] <robin-hero> alex-abreu: Thanks
[13:10] <_1_zabi> hi
[13:29] <Giordano> si parla italiano?
[13:30] <ogra_> Giordano, generally we speak english here ... but there might be italians in the channel
[13:31] <Trevinho> Giordano: if you need some italian guidance, join #ubuntu-it-dev
[13:40] <jgdx> mpt, hi, do you have apn designs in your backlog?
[13:40] <mpt> jgdx, yes, working on them right now
[13:40] <jgdx> mpt, cool. Wondering if you saw https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubuntu-system-settings/+bug/1388222/comments/4
[13:46] <jgdx> dednick, green test run on mako. Great.
[13:48] <jgdx> dednick, no, wait. Looking at the wrong MP.
[13:49] <mpt> jgdx, yes, I think the way to fix that is switching from instant-apply to a preview screen with an “Apply” button
[13:57] <jgdx> mpt, yes, and give us more elbow room to e.g. inform the user on failure.
[14:07] <pitti> does anyone know how I open a link in a new tab (in the phone browser)?
[14:10] <jgdx> pitti, press and hold — open in new tab
[14:12] <jgdx> pitti, btw, I added a pr to p-dbusmock.
[14:12] <pitti> jgdx: that doesn't seem to work on http://zeit.de -- if I do that it marks the paragraph and puts a blue border around it and gives me a "copy" button
[14:12] <pitti> jgdx: yes, I saw, thanks! back from the long Easter weekend, catching up
[14:13] <pitti> jgdx: ah, tapping on the headers works, just not tapping a bit below (these also work as links, just not for the menu)
[14:13] <pitti> thanks!
[14:15] <jgdx> pitti, cool. Hope you had a nice Easter. Thank you.
[14:16] <pitti> jgdx: I did, we had some nice days with family and friends in Dresden; how about you?
[14:18] <mpt> awe_, jgdx: Do IA (LTE) APNs have any different fields from “default” APNs?
[14:19] <jgdx> pitti, awesome. Had a lovely time on our farm with Family and friends. Classic Poirot and candy. :)
[14:20] <jgdx> mpt, I don't know. abeato might :) ^^
[14:21] <abeato> mpt, APN, user and password is enough
[14:22] <jgdx> abeato, thanks
[14:22] <abeato> jgdx, np
[14:24] <dednick> jgdx: Seems like a bunch of the WIfi tests are being skipped because of a problem in the AP tests. WifiPage.have_wireless is looking for "SwitchMenuItem" rather than "SwitchMenu". And it seems to be hiding another failure in test_connect_to_hidden_network_then_cancel
[14:24] <dednick> AttributeError: 'WifiTestCase' object has no attribute 'active_connection_mock
[14:24] <jgdx> dednick, I saw the same thing during Easter.
[14:25] <dednick> jgdx: ok, I'm fixing the rename in my branch
[14:25] <jgdx> dednick, rename?
[14:25] <dednick> SwitchMenuItem
[14:26] <dednick> unless you think it should be separate
[14:26] <dednick> it was changed to SwitchMenu awhile ago, but looks like the AP tests were overlooked
[14:27] <jgdx> dednick, can I do the rename in a separate branch?
[14:27] <dednick> jgdx: sure
[14:39] <mpt> thanks abeato
[14:39] <abeato> mpt, np
[14:40] <karatsu> hi, i ve just bougth bq ubunt phone .. and i'm using ubuntu as main os for desktop .. is there any app usefull on desktop to use with the mobile ?
[14:40] <lotuspsychje> karatsu: you mean instant messaging?
[14:41] <dobey> karatsu: the phone does not yet do full convergence, if that is what you're asking
[14:42] <karatsu> no .. i remember a time showing video where user can send and view sms from ubuntu
[14:42] <lotuspsychje> karatsu: telegram app?
[14:42] <karatsu> at least can i remote display phone app on desktop ?
[14:42] <dobey> karatsu: that was probably the convergence video. that is not doable yet really
[14:43] <dobey> no, you cannot remote display the phone screen on a PC yet
[14:43] <karatsu> @lotuspsychje : i ve install and test telegram .. seems good alt to whatsapp
[14:43] <Anon_189473> dobey: As a matter of interest, when you do you expect the full convergence (as intended for Ubuntu Edge) to make it into a release?
[14:44] <dobey> Anon_189473: when it's ready :)
[14:45] <lotuspsychje> dobey: isnt there a new teamviewer touch app out?
[14:45] <dobey> Anon_189473: it will of course also require a phone with a certain level of hardware to really be useful, as well
[14:45] <karatsu> as a matter of interest when will be the next release .. currently using r20 (stable) but seems there's more recent version (dev) ?
[14:45] <Anon_189473> I know you cannot make a public commitment, and that's not really what I'm after... But are we talking 1 month, 1 year, 3 years?
[14:46] <ogra_> Anon_189473, the public commitment we made was "in 16.04"
[14:46] <dobey> lotuspsychje: i don't know, but it wouldn't let you view/use the phone on another device really, as the security model doesn't allow it
[14:46] <ogra_> but also only on hardware that cn do it
[14:46] <ogra_> *can
[14:46] <Anon_189473> Just this was first talked about some years a go and with Windows 10 apparently doing something similar (I don't know the details - It was news to me too) I wonder if Ubuntu will get there first or not.
[14:46] <dobey> karatsu: another OTA will be coming soon to the stable channel
[14:47] <ogra_> most likely not, unless you grow canonical by factor 100 ...
[14:47] <Anon_189473> ogra_: 16.04 - So is that ~year?
[14:47] <ogra_> microsoft has a few more employees :)
[14:47] <karatsu> is it safe to use terminal and apt-get on mobile like in desktop ? because i think there jre in repo ..
[14:47] <ogra_> Anon_189473, thats an ubuntu release version
[14:47] <Anon_189473> Yes but release for 16.04 is approx 1 yr away?
[14:47] <ogra_> yes
[14:48] <ogra_> and by then you will see the very first iteration of that feature ...
[14:48] <Anon_189473> Interesting.
[14:48] <ogra_> which doesnt mean it will be available on all phones right from there on or something
[14:48] <popey> karatsu: http://askubuntu.com/questions/599488/how-to-install-a-deb-file-in-ubuntu-touch
[14:49] <ogra_> to have a laptop in your pocket ... you ... well ... need laptop hardware inside a phone case
[14:49] <Anon_189473> It's one of those difficult things - Being open Ubuntu (understandably) wants to demo the best features but it seems the good ones get snapped up by people with more time + money. And this means the average shopper probably does not even realise the importance that Ubuntu had in that vision.
[14:49] <ogra_> devices with decent amoount of ram rae still non-existent
[14:49] <davmor2> ogra_: not fair, it's more like 1000 not 100
[14:49] <Anon_189473> But I guess there is no other way aside from keeping it secret which is not particularly in fitting with the philosophy.
[14:49] <popey> who said it's secret?
[14:49] <popey> he said the answer - when it's ready
[14:49] <ogra_> davmor2, we'd get along with x100 to surpass development speed though ;)
[14:49] <popey> (which it isn't)
[14:50] <davmor2> ogra_: oh indeed
[14:50] <Anon_189473> I did not say it was secret - quite the opposite unless I've mistyped (will read back)
[14:50] <popey> maybe I misread
[14:50] <Anon_189473> what I meant to say is 1) Ubuntu come out with a good idea (publically) 2) Some other company with more people and money implement it first
[14:50] <ogra_> yeah
[14:50] <ogra_> we can live with that :)
[14:51] <ogra_> many of our phone concepts showed up in the past iphone too :)
[14:51] <popey> and android
[14:51] <ogra_> yeps
[14:51] <popey> android material design builds a lot on our origami / suru concepts
[14:51] <Anon_189473> And that's the shame of it because the vast majority of users of phones will not know this and never give Ubuntu the credit the software deserves.
[14:51] <Anon_189473> And the only way I see around that is to not make the ideas public but I understand that's not the philosophy..
[14:52] <ogra_> Anon_189473, canonical has ~600 employees, we dont need to be the leadin entitiy in the phone busines ... 1-.3% of the market would even enable us to easily break even and hire more people
[14:52] <Anon_189473> I really hope that happens
[14:52] <Anon_189473> (Given the innovation we so often read about)
[14:53] <ogra_> (and only a very small margin of these 600 are developers ... and an even smaller one work on phone stuff)
[14:53] <davmor2> and even less are QA ;)
[14:54] <cwayne> and even less are davmor2
[14:55] <davmor2> cwayne: everyone emulates me though, they have all started thinking how will Dave break this I'm sure of it ;)
[14:59] <cwayne> davmor2, :)
[15:11] <dobey> emulate is a strong word
[15:14] <davmor2> dobey: so you're not hard working, diligent, and all about quality hang you head in shame ;) oh and sarcasm by the boatload we all need that LD
[15:14] <davmor2> :D even
[15:15] <dobey> davmor2: it's just not possible to emulate you
[15:16] <davmor2> dobey: haha
[15:42] <mpt> abeato, awe_: Can Ubuntu tell automatically *whether* you need LTE APN settings? (different from telling what those settings should be)
[15:43] <awe_> mpt, no, other than whether provisioning returns a specific APN for LTE
[15:44] <mpt> awe_, where “provisioning” means looking in the database?
[15:44] <awe_> and it's possible that the carrier in question may not have an APN defined in our db
[15:44] <mpt> ok
[15:44] <awe_> which is why the editor needs to be able to enter one
[15:44] <awe_> mpt, ack
[15:45] <awe_> if there's not an APN defined, then we use the default APN for this
[15:45] <awe_> which isn't 100% guaranteed to work
[15:45] <awe_> again, the problem is that the db will never be 100% accurate...
[15:46] <awe_> as new carriers can sprout up, and old ones may fail...
[15:46] <mpt> So we can’t even say, oh, this carrier uses WiMAX for 4G, therefore you won’t need LTE APN settings
[15:46] <awe_> WiMax is dead
[15:46] <mpt> (I’m just wikipediaing here)
[15:47] <awe_> so basically, if an LTE APN exists for the SIM's carrier
[15:47] <awe_> then we use it
[15:47] <awe_> otherwise we use the same APN as used for Internet
[15:47] <awe_> if this *fails*, then the user may need to manually enter one
[15:47] <mpt> This is one thing I didn’t understand until today
[15:48] <mpt> So when we try activating an Internet APN, we try it with LTE (and MMS?) too, just in case it works?
[15:48] <awe_> no
[15:48] <awe_> an LTE APN ( of type "IA" in the database ) is used for just that
[15:49] <awe_> if we find one, we send it to rild *before* we ever get to worrying about setting up the internet connection
[15:49] <awe_> if we don't find one, then we use the default APN ( ie. the one that's used for Internet )
[15:50] <awe_> when we get to setting up the Internet connection, we try APNs of the type=Internet only
[15:50] <mpt> So for LTE, it’s (1) see if it’s in the database, and if not or if it fails, (2) see if Internet is in the database, and if not or if it fails, (3) leave for you to set as custom
[15:51] <mpt> While for Internet, it’s just (1) see if it’s in the database, and if not or if it fails, (2) leave for you to set as custom
[15:51] <awe_> I'm not sure if the "if it fails" applies, you'd have to ask abeato
[15:51] <awe_> please keep this new type separate from Internet
[15:51] <mpt> Oh, for sure
[15:52] <awe_> it's (a) if we find a type=ia, use it, else use the internet apn ( not sure about the fallback case )
[15:52] <mpt> I was just wondering if there was a way we can avoid the fields being there in cases where they aren’t useful (e.g. my carrier doesn’t offer 4G yet)
[15:52] <awe_> for internet, NM tries each APN w/type=Internet in sequence till it finds one that works
[15:53] <awe_> if a user enters a custom APN for Internet
[15:53] <mpt> oh yeah, I forgot about the multi-DB-entry case
[15:53] <awe_> we tell NM to try it immediately
[15:53] <awe_> and then if it fails, it goes round-robin again
[15:53] <awe_> we've added support for a 'Preferred' tag to ofono
[15:53] <mpt> so “if not or if it fails” -> “if there are none or if they all fail”
[15:53] <awe_> this hasn't yet landed
[15:53] <awe_> and we still have to add support to NM for this
[15:54] <awe_> once we do, the APN editor will be able to mark an APN as preferred, regardless of whether or not mobile data is active
[15:54] <awe_> NM will then *only* use the APN(s) marked 'Preferred'
[15:56] <mpt> That reminds me of NM’s 2005-era eagerness to cycle through all open wi-fi networks it could see, looking for one that worked
[15:57] <mpt> Albeit that an APN database entry is much less likely to be dodgy than a wi-fi network :-)
[16:00] <dednick> tsdgeos: my device gdb isnt picking up qt5 symbols? any idea why?
[16:01] <dednick> tsdgeos: after installing them i mean :)
[16:01] <tsdgeos> dednick: not really, it usually works here, can you paste the backtrace?
[16:04] <dednick> tsdgeos: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/10763549/
[16:04] <tsdgeos> dednick: which package di dyou install?
[16:05] <dednick> tsdgeos: libqt5core5a-dbgsym libqt5dbus5-dbgsym
[16:06] <tsdgeos> dednick: try qtbase5-dbg
[16:06] <tsdgeos> for some reason sometimes i have issues with the dbgsym packages
[16:06] <dednick> tsdgeos: ah. ok
[16:27] <spazzymoto> Hey guys, can one of you take a look at my dmesg if you get a chance and let me know if you can see a reason my partitions in the android container dont seem to get mounted on startup http://pastebin.com/xSjPMfiT
[16:27] <spazzymoto> Not sure if these have anything to do with it
[16:27] <spazzymoto> [ 1.905960] 8941_l22: Failed to create debugfs directory [ 1.906014] 8941_s3: Failed to create debugfs directory
[16:28] <spazzymoto> otherwise it seems to go pear shaped around line 756
[17:16] <Bogdan> i have a bug with youtube video on ubuntu touch from bq. If is here someone interested for a log file i am available
[17:17] <Bogdan> The problem is that i dont see video, just audio
[17:17] <ogra_> better file it in launchpad so it doesnt get lost :)
[17:18] <ogra_> Bogdan, is that with the default install ? nothing made writable or tinkered with ?
[17:18] <Bogdan> I made an update to v. 20
[17:19] <Bogdan> Default install, yes
[17:19] <Bogdan> I made an system update, not from terminal
[17:20] <Bogdan> I will open a bug after 2 days, i have only phone, no computer for 2 days
[17:21] <ogra_> yes, please do
[17:21] <ogra_> thats definitely not normal ... and nothing we have seen with a default install
[17:23] <Bogdan> I can copy paste some logs
[17:23] <dobey> pmcgowan was saying yesterday there is already a bug for that
[17:24] <dobey> something about an issue with "target-densitydpi" not being supported
[17:24] <dobey> pmcgowan: ^^ do you know the bug # for that issue?
[17:24] <pmcgowan> yes I reopened a bug on it one sec
[17:25] <Bogdan> Yes, its that bug
[17:27] <pmcgowan> https://launchpad.net/bugs/1303997
[17:27] <pmcgowan> Bogdan, I added your paste to that bug,
[17:27] <pmcgowan> but I have no idea why you see that and others dont
[17:27] <pmcgowan> its as if the content is different
[17:28] <dobey> well, i guess taiebot saw it :)
[17:32] <ogra_> pmcgowan, that might well be ... youtube uses gelolocking
[17:32] <ogra_> *geolocking
[17:32] <ogra_> pmcgowan, i can only watch ~30% of the music videos that davmor2 posts at times ... youtube germany locks me down for them
[17:33] <pmcgowan> ogra_, but that key its using is long deprecated, seems just like bad html
[17:33] <ogra_> ah
[17:37] <dobey> mardy: signon is in github, or i should propose changes to the bzr branch in LP? (did you move it off google code yet?)
[17:41] <davmor2> ogra_: use a vpn then you can enjoy all the tunes ;)
[17:42] <ogra_> davmor2, i know ... not all my firefoxes are set up fo rthat though
[17:52] <spazzymoto> Anyone know if the messages from line 34 are a problem or normal? http://pastebin.com/3MZ2g0mY generate by enabling debugging on lxc
[17:57] <Bogdan> i will complete the bug about youtube on bq in the next days
[17:58] <Bogdan> I am the user mention on launchpad
[18:06] <ogra_> spazzymoto, well, does: "ps ax|grep /init" show you a process called /init ?
[18:14] <spazzymoto> ogra, ill check now have to reflash cause i broke it lol.
[18:14] <ogra_> heh
[18:14] <spazzymoto> im sure init is running tho as i can log into the container?
[18:15] <ogra_> well, if you see an "/init" (additionally to /sbin/init), thats the android init process inside the container
[18:16] <ogra_> to enter the container you can use: lxc-console -t0 -nandroid
[18:17] <ogra_> to read logs from the container you can directly call /system/bin/logcat ...
[18:19] <spazzymoto> ps ax|grep /init -> http://pastebin.com/dwaAgppa looks good
[18:19] <mardy> dobey: if you can, please propose it here: https://gitlab.com/accounts-sso/signond
[18:19] <mardy> dobey: the github transition was temporary, I'll delete those projects
[18:20] <dobey> hmm
[18:23] <dobey> mardy: hmm, i see the debian/ dir is not in those repos. should i propose packaging changes to lp:signon or lp:libsignon-glib then?
[18:25] <mardy> dobey: yes, if it's about packaging you should propose them in launchpad
[18:32] <dobey> ok great
[18:34] <roeei> dobey thanks for your reply last night, sorry i fell asleep
[18:34] <roeei> about whatsapp and exchange
[18:35] <dobey> sure
[18:35] <roeei> i bough a bq 4.5 specifically to try ubuntu
[18:35] <roeei> its the next best thing in the mobile world
[18:37] <roeei> i really cant wait for t
[18:37] <roeei> mobile/desktop convergence
[18:40] <Bogdan> i have updated the bug with youtube. 1303997 bug
[18:41] <Bogdan> If you have any question i can atach any log file
[19:28] <dadexix86> is there a way to access the phone memory without mtp? on the italian irc there is a guy who cannot access it on ubuntu 14.04. investigating it a bit more, turned out that the phone shows up correctly in lsusb and dmesg, but gvfs does not see it, since it is not present in /run/user/1000/gvfs
[19:28] <brunch875> try enabling developer mode and accessing via adb
[19:30] <jgdx> cyphermox, hey, if you do not pass a specific object to AddAndActivateConnection for a wireless connection, what are the consequences?
[19:31] <cyphermox> I don't know
[19:31] <cyphermox> isn't it written in the doc?
[19:31] <jgdx> kay
[19:31] <jgdx> it's pretty vague
[19:31] <cyphermox> mmkay :)
[19:38] <Se7> hi guys
[19:39] <brunch875> Hello Se7
[19:39] <brunch875> welcome back!
[19:39] <Se7> strange think...i can t swich off wifi when i slide down the icons
[19:40] <brunch875> sometimes the menu glitches
[19:40] <brunch875> reboot the phone and tata
[19:40] <brunch875> I believe it has to do with the stuff behind crashing
[19:40] <Se7> i ll try
[19:41] <Se7> because if i swich off come on again by himself
[19:41] <Se7> and the icon where i m connected doesn t change
[19:41] <Se7> i reboot and tell you if it s change
[19:42] <Se7> see you later :)
[19:42] <brunch875> :)
[19:46] <Se7_> tnx brunch875 he work now :*
[19:47] <Se7_> i m at work..see you soon beautiful ppl
[19:47] <jgdx> Wellark, ping
[19:56] <matv1> is ofonod already a default package on 14.10 desktop?
[19:57] <matv1> or rather ofono
[20:04] <matv1> because i just saw a massive crash of my desktop and apport is saying ofonod was the proces that crashed
[20:09] <matv1> I didnt think that ofono was already part of 14.10 desktop distribution
[20:16] <jgdx> matv1, seems like it is. Do you have the crash file?
[20:28] <tobstarr> hi, it seems there is no longer a package for git in the most recent version of ubuntu touch?
[20:28] <tobstarr> is there a ppa where I can install it from?
[20:32] <jgdx> matv1, if you have a crash file, $ ubuntu-bug <crash file> # would upload it and create a bug.
[20:36] <matv1> jgdx i do have a ofonod crashfile yeah. I will do that. But just to satify my curiosity: Is ofono already part of 14.10 desktop by default? or did i get that from installing the sdk?
[20:37] <jgdx> matv1, I'm not that informed, but looking at [1] gives the impression that it is default in utopic. [1] https://lists.canonical.com/archives/utopic-changes/
[20:39] <dobey> tobstarr: apt-get is not supported on the phone images, and no, git is not in the archive for ubuntu-rtm
[20:39] <dobey> tobstarr: if you need to do something with git on the phone, the best thing to do is create a chroot in the home directory and install packages you need within that chroot
[20:47] <matv1> jgdx yes you are right. And its in my own proceslist. wow! And who said convergence wasnt happening :)
[20:51] <jgdx> matv1, it's in trusty as well. Yeah, it's great!
[20:56] <dobey> ofono (from ofono) is seeded in: ubuntu-desktop-next: daily-live ubuntu-touch: daily-preinstalled
[20:57] <dobey> so no, not installed by default
[20:57] <matv1> dobey ah so i got it with the sdk install i guess?
[20:58] <tobstarr> dobey: but I am running apt-get on my phone?
[20:58] <tobstarr> dobey: not supported or not recommended?
[20:59] <dobey> tobstarr: either
[20:59] <dobey> both
[20:59] <tobstarr> dobey: strange, it does work quite well
[21:00] <dobey> matv1: probably not? i don't have ofono installed here
[21:00] <tobstarr> this is also what I read to e.g. run golang apps on ubuntu touch
[21:00] <dobey> tobstarr: it does not work quite well
[21:00] <dobey> you don't need apt to run go apps on the phone. you need go apps built to run on the phone
[21:01] <matv1> dobey but the link to the utopic archive changes does sugest that an ofono package was accepted there
[21:01] <tobstarr> dobey: but if I want to e.g. use qt I need cgo so I cannot cross compile
[21:01] <tobstarr> how would I do that?
[21:01] <dobey> matv1: i'm not sure what you mean by accepted. a new version was uploaded?
[21:01] <matv1> I mean the link that jgdx mentioned ^^
[21:01] <dobey> tobstarr: use the SDK
[21:01] <matv1> yes i guess
[21:02] <dobey> the link jgdx posted is the index to a mailing list archive
[21:02] <dobey> i'm not going to troll through all those mails to find which one has ofono mentioned in it :)
[21:02] <tobstarr> dobey: thanks, will look into the sdk
[21:02] <dobey> tobstarr: what are you trying to do exactly?
[21:03] <tobstarr> dobey: current status is to play around a bit, see what is possible
[21:03] <tobstarr> will probably not use it as my goto phone
[21:03] <dobey> tobstarr: if you want to use apt on the phone you either make a chroot in ~/ and do stuff in that chroot, or you give up upgrading the system image, or you lose any changes you made with apt, when you install the next update
[21:03] <idlestabilizer> hello
[21:04] <dobey> also / is not a very large partition, so it will get filled up very fast if you make it writable and start playing with apt
[21:04] <tobstarr> dobey: how do updates work on the phone? do they replace all of the root partition?
[21:04] <idlestabilizer> I am currently stuck while trying to flash UT on my Nexus 5. Always ends at the "This phone needs restoring from a PC or servcice center."
[21:04] <tobstarr> dobey: yeah, I already ran into disk space issues
[21:04] <dobey> tobstarr: pretty much, yes
[21:04] <matv1> dobey oh ok. sorry just trying to get my head around why i have ofono running on regular 14.10 desktop. seems kind of weird. and I am not evenr unning the sdk atm.
[21:04] <dobey> tobstarr: the system is read-only for a reason :)
[21:05] <dobey> matv1: do you have the "ubuntu-touch" meta-package installed as well?
[21:05] <tobstarr> dobey: well, it is only day 2 for me :)
[21:05] <tobstarr> a lot of things to learn
[21:06] <tobstarr> dobey: can you also use the sdk from a CLI level? I would like to use vim for the actual coding and just need some cross-compiler etc.
[21:06] <dobey> tobstarr: updates are a file pulled off the image server, and unpacked on the device; not very different from android OTA updates
[21:06] <matv1> dobey I dont think so but let me check
[21:06] <dobey> tobstarr: well, you can code and use some tools, but not the sdk itself.
[21:07] <tobstarr> dobey: are there any cli build tools?
[21:07] <dobey> tobstarr: i don't use the sdk much myself, except to build things or play test with some qml UI; i mostly write code in emacs
[21:07] <jgdx> matv1, or any of the packages listed after apt-cache rdepends ofono
[21:08] <jgdx> matv1, it's in the archive, maybe not default install. Not sure how you figure that out on second thought.
[21:08] <dobey> tobstarr: the ubuntu sdk ide is just a nice interface that runs whatever CLI tools are required to build the thing
[21:08] <dobey> so g++, gcc-go, click, etc…
[21:08] <dobey> jgdx: the seeded-in-ubuntu tool
[21:09] <dobey> jgdx: it tells you if what seeds have it :)
[21:09] <idlestabilizer> I read that the "This phone needs..."-msg is often seen while flashing and that people should wait - but for how long?
[21:09] <tobstarr> dobey: I am running in the same issue I run on the cli (C source files not allowed when not using cgo(
[21:09] <jgdx> dobey, thanks
[21:09] <tobstarr> this is why I tried to compile on the device
[21:10] <dobey> tobstarr: i don't know much about go, sorry; if there's no way to cross-compile, it should be possible to build on a device (but you should do that via a chroot, not by messing with /), or you can use qemu to do the build on a workstation
[21:11] <dobey> or laptop or whatever
[21:11] <dobey> idlestabilizer: you need to flash the stock android 4.4 back on it, boot up into the android welcome screen, reboot to the bootloader, and then do ubuntu-device-flash --bootstrap ...
[21:12] <idlestabilizer> dobey, ok. tried to flash it from lollipop
[21:12] <tobstarr> dobey: is there anything I could read about chroot on the device?
[21:12] <dobey> idlestabilizer: you can't have android 5.x if you want to replace android with ubuntu. it has some incompatible changes
[21:13] <tobstarr> dobey: would that be something like debootstrap?
[21:13] <idlestabilizer> dobey, ok, good to know...
[21:13] <dobey> idlestabilizer: you need to have 4.4 on the phone. if you have 5.5 you can maybe use the multirom app from the play store, if you want to dual boot
[21:13] <idlestabilizer> thanks!
[21:13] <idlestabilizer> no dual boot necessary
[21:14] <dobey> tobstarr: i don't know if there's a wiki page or anything about setting up such a chroot. i guess debootstrap might work to create one, i'm not 100% sure on what it does exactly either
[21:15] <tobstarr> dobey: one more thing: how would I reset my device (if I fucked things up)? :)
[21:15] <dobey> tobstarr: "click chroot create" might work too, but i don't see how to specify what directory to put it in
[21:16] <dobey> tobstarr: reflash with ubuntu-device-flash i guess
[21:16] <tobstarr> dobey: thanks, for the time being I did not break anyting I guess
[21:17] <dobey> tobstarr: unless you destroy existing files in / you should be mostly fine though. worst you'll end up doing to stuff in ~ is losing your own data, or screwing up permissions by running something with sudo :)
[21:17] <idlestabilizer> btw. what's the most recent stable version of UT?
[21:18] <brunch875> r20, isn't it?
[21:18] <dobey> whatever the latest in the stable channel is the most recent stable version :)
[21:18] <dobey> brunch875: image numbers aren't aligned across devices and channels unfortunately
[21:18] <tobstarr> I just use it as a toy, I am thinking of some stuff I would otherwise put on a raspi, nothing I can not afford loosing
[21:19] <brunch875> ouvh
[21:19] <dobey> for N5 the latest "stable" version is 17
[21:20] <idlestabilizer> dobey, thank you!!
[21:23] <idlestabilizer> ok, I am back at Android 4.4 will try to flash v17 now
[21:36] <idlestabilizer> wow. Up and running! Thanks dobey
[21:37] <idlestabilizer> cool
[22:28] <mandel> ogra_, around?
|
ubuntu-chat
|
2024-05-13T22:11:15.947425
| 2015-04-07T00:00:00 |
{
"license": "Public Domain",
"authors": [
"AlanBell",
"Anon_189473",
"Bogdan",
"DonkeyHotei",
"DrGnomage",
"EdwardMorbius",
"Giordano",
"Guest75847",
"JamesTait",
"Laney",
"OscarBookworm",
"Saviq",
"Se7",
"Se7_",
"Trevinho",
"ZacharyI123",
"_1_zabi",
"abeato",
"adexmont",
"alex-abreu",
"awe_",
"brunch875",
"cleiton",
"cotton",
"cwayne",
"cyphermox",
"dadexix86",
"danrik",
"davidcalle",
"davmor2",
"dbarth_",
"dednick",
"didrocks",
"dobey",
"embrik",
"georg1982",
"idlestabilizer",
"jgdx",
"k1l",
"karatsu",
"lotuspsychje",
"mandel",
"mardy",
"matv1",
"mpt",
"muka_",
"nhaines",
"oSoMoN",
"ogra_",
"phix",
"pitti",
"pmcgowan",
"popey",
"robin-hero",
"roeei",
"seb128",
"sil2100",
"spazzymoto",
"sturmflut-work",
"tobstarr",
"tsdgeos",
"tvoss"
],
"url": "https://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2015/04/07/%23ubuntu-touch.txt",
"channel": "#ubuntu-touch"
}
|
2015-04-07-#ubuntu-mir
|
[13:42] <alan_g> alf_: is there actually a reason for ExternalSpinner to be a separate process?
[13:47] <alf_> alan_g: I think the idea was that the default spinner could be easily replaced with a branded version by phone vendors
[13:49] <alan_g> OK that's a plausible reason.
|
ubuntu-chat
|
2024-05-13T22:11:15.955578
| 2015-04-07T00:00:00 |
{
"license": "Public Domain",
"authors": [
"alan_g",
"alf_"
],
"url": "https://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2015/04/07/%23ubuntu-mir.txt",
"channel": "#ubuntu-mir"
}
|
2015-04-07-#ubuntu-ko
|
[00:15] <jun__> 안녕하세요~ 안녕하십니까~ 밤새 편안하셨습니까~~~
[00:19] <ZNC_autowiz> 안녕하세요
[00:19] <ZNC_autowiz> 밤새 힘들었습니다.
[00:31] <jun__> 밤 새셨어요~???
[00:36] <razGon_MINILA> ㅎㄷㄷ
[00:36] <razGon_MINILA> 저는 중간에 잠들었어요.ㅋ
[00:38] <jun__> 헐.. 중간에 잠드셨다면..뭔가 일이 있어서 밤을 지샐 계획이셨다는..????
[01:21] <ZNC_autowiz> 저도 잠도 못자고 해결은 안되고
[01:21] <ZNC_autowiz> 지금 컨디션은 엉망이고 졸리고
[01:21] <ZNC_autowiz> 난장 판이네요 ㅠㅠ
[01:25] <PotatoGim> 안녕하세요~~~
[01:33] <Jason___> Hi ZNC_autowiz, 오랜만! ^^ 어떤 znc 써요?
[01:33] <ZNC_autowiz> 제 pc 에 znc 서버 설치했습니다. znc 는 뭐 그냥
[01:33] <ZNC_autowiz> 우분투 기본 저장소에 있는걸로다가
[01:34] <Jason___> 오~ 잘 하셨, 멋 집니다.
[01:34] <ZNC_autowiz> ㅋ 뭐 그냥 apt-get 밖에 한게 없는데요뭐 ㅋㅋ
[01:59] <ZNC_autowiz> fsck 를 정합성 검사라고 해야할까요 ? 정확성 검사 라고 해야 할까요?
[01:59] <Work^Seony> fsck 약자가 아마 filesystem check일걸요
[02:25] <Jason___> 아마 맞죠?! ㅎ
[02:33] <jun__> 큭... 갑자기 비가 오네요... 점심 시간이 다가오는데.. 우산도 없는데 ㅜㅜ
[02:37] <Jason___> jun__: 안녕하세요? 어딘데...비가 와요?
[02:42] <bluedusk> Jason___, 압구정인데 비오네요
[02:42] <Jason___> 아~ 감사, 오랜만! blue dusk
[02:42] <Jason___> 즐 점심식사~
[02:51] <bluedusk> 전 단식투쟁중이에요
[02:55] <PotatoGim> 헉...
[02:55] <PotatoGim> 어느 아무개와 투쟁을 하시기에..ㅎ
[02:55] <DarkCircle> bluedusk, 하지만 그분은 -ㅅ- 아직도 소고기를 ...
[02:55] <DarkCircle> (자극한다)
[02:55] <bluedusk> DarkCircle, 버려요
[02:55] <bluedusk> 이미 버림
[02:56] <bluedusk> 캬아아아아아앙!!
[03:00] <PotatoGim> 흐미.. 혹시 UML에서 부팅할 때 random 이후로 너무 느린 현상 겪어보신 분 계신가요?
[04:24] <bluedusk> DarkCircle, 옹
[04:24] <DarkCircle> 냐옹 ?ㅅ?/
[04:25] <bluedusk> 혹시 주변에 컴터 잘하는 사람 없나요?
[04:26] <jun__> 다들 식사는 하셨습니까~???
[04:26] <bluedusk> 아뇨 저 단식투쟁중이라서요
[04:26] <jun__> 단식투쟁...?? 무슨일 있으세요???
[04:31] <bluedusk> 일있는건 아니고 그냥 .;
[04:33] <jun__> ㅎㅎㅎ 전 먹을때가 제일 행복한데.. 그걸 끊을 수가 없어서...
[04:34] <DarkCircle> 주변...은 아니고
[04:34] <jun__> 단식투쟁을 하라면.. 전 그냥 죽겄습니다 ㅎㅎㅎ
[04:34] <DarkCircle> 그놈방에 괴물들이 우글우글 모여살지만 -ㅅ- ..
[04:34] <DarkCircle> (먼산)
[04:34] <bluedusk> 굇수들은
[04:34] <bluedusk> 이미
[04:34] <DarkCircle> 저도 팔 네개만 더 붙었으면 좋겠 ...
[04:34] <bluedusk> 저도 머리가 좀만 더 똑똑했으면 좋겠...
[04:34] <jun__> 전 그냥 분신술을 쓸수 있었으면....
[04:34] <bluedusk> 왜케 멍청한건지 ㅠㅠ
[04:34] <DarkCircle> 팔이 두개밖에 없으니 일이 너무 빡셈
[04:38] <bluedusk> DarkCircle, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tq5fxkhozKM
[04:38] <bluedusk> 이런거 보고 힘내시라옹
[04:39] <jun__> 진짜 후덜덜이네요...
[04:40] <bluedusk> 전그냥 이산화까스 제조하고 똥싸지르는 기계인듯 ㅠㅠ
[04:40] <DarkCircle> ... 힘내는게 아니라 기운이 더 빠질기세 -ㅅ-
[04:41] <jun__> 기계로 큐브를.... 난 이 나이 먹을때까지 뭐했나 싶고...
[04:45] <jun__> 글고보니 전 큐비를 손으로도 맞추질 못하네요....ㅎㅎㅎㅎ
[05:08] <Dracokr> 저도 큐브 어렸을때 서너번 맞춰보고 까먹었음
[05:09] <Dracokr> 집에 못맞춘 큐브가 굴러다녀요
[05:10] <PotatoGim> ㅎㅎ 예전에 한창 33 44까지는 가지고 놀았는데...
[05:26] <jun__> 기계가 5초만에 맞추는데... 전 5일이 걸릴꺼예요 ㅎㅎㅎ
[05:26] <DarkCircle> 저같으면 손으로 다 빼고 다시 조립해서 맞춤 (응?)
[05:30] <jun__> ㅎㅎㅎㅎ 저도 그렇게 해봤어요 ㅎㅎㅎ
[06:05] <bluedusk> 원래 tftp 가 같은 서브넷 안에서만 통신하는게 맞아요?
[06:06] <ZNC_autowiz> 예 맞을거에요
[06:06] <ZNC_autowiz> 아 맞을려나...
[06:23] <popeye92> tftp 는 udp/69 를 쓰는 프로토콜입니다. 방화벽에서 열어주면 같은 서브넷이 아니어도 통신되지요. 대부분 방화벽에서 막혀있긴 하지만
[06:29] <samahui_WS> 역시 방송의 힘이 무섭군요
[06:30] <samahui_WS> 진주냉면이 유명한 집이 수원에 있어서 수원 다녀오는길에 먹고 오려고 했는데 이게 어제 저녁에 방송에 나왔다네요... 그리고 오늘 점심시간에 정말 꽉꽉 들어찬 사람과 밖에도 4~50명은 줄서서 기다리고 주차장쪽은 교통마비가 일어났네요... 갔다가 밥도 못먹고 그냥 근처 아웃백가서 먹고 왔어요 ㅜㅜ
[06:43] <jun__> 크~ 방송의 힘이 크긴 크네요 ㅎㅎㅎ
[06:43] <jun__> 울 회사 근처에는 맛집도 없구...
[06:51] <Jason___> 오우~ 뽀빠이님, 오랜만에 말문을 열으셨네요. 반갑습니다. ^^
[06:51] <popeye92> ^^ 오랜만에 아는게 나와서 ㅎㅎ
[06:51] <Jason___> 헐~ ㅋㅋㅋㅋ
[06:52] <popeye92> 마침 IRC창에 포커스가 가 있어서 보였어요.
[06:53] <popeye92> 평소 업무시간엔 irc 창을 미니마이즈 해놔서리..
[07:12] <Jason___> 그렇쵸~, 암튼 오랜만에 뵈서 반갑습니다.
[07:14] <popeye92> :)
[07:14] <Seony> 안녕하세요
[07:25] <ready^T420> http://onoffmix.com/event/43441
[07:25] <ready^T420> 오실분~
[07:25] <ready^T420> ㅋㅋ
[07:26] <ready^T420> 혹시 요즘 쉬고 계신분 있으심까 ?
[07:26] <ready^T420> 소일거리가 -
[08:08] <bluedusk> 음
[08:19] <jun__> 하필이면 목요일이네요..
[08:19] <jun__> 목요일은 이미 일정이 잡힌 상태였는데 ㅜㅜ
[08:43] <ZNC_autowiz> 그냥 막상 가고싶기는 한데 , 모바일 컨텐츠 쪽은 큰 관심이 가지는 않아서 안갈듯 합니다. ㅠㅠ
[09:22] <bluedusk> ZNC_autowiz, 전 cdn 떨어졌네요 서류에서 ㅋ
[09:26] <jun__> ㅊ우?
[09:26] <jun__> cdn?
[09:27] <bluedusk> 넹
[09:28] <jun__> cdn이 회사 이름인가요..??? 아님 네이버 지식백과에 나오는 네트워크 용어인가요..?
[09:29] <bluedusk> cdnetworks 요
[09:29] <jun__> 아 회사 이름이구나;;
[09:30] <DarkCircle> 용어이기도 하고 회사 이름이기도 하고요
[09:30] <DarkCircle> Content Delivery Network
[09:30] <bluedusk> DarkCircle, 옹
[09:30] <DarkCircle> 냐옹?
[09:30] <jun__> 역시 이 챗방에 있으면 많이 배우는거 같아요 ㅎㅎㅎ
[09:31] <bluedusk> 저도 이직하고 싶은데 갈데가 없네요
[09:31] <jun__> 모르는걸 알게 된...(아 정말 제가 모르는게 많네요..)
[09:31] <bluedusk> 아무래도 직종을 바꿔야 할듯
[09:31] <jun__> 헉!!!
[09:31] <jun__> 전 그럼 귀농을 해야할......쿨럭~
[09:31] <DarkCircle> 이직할 곳이 있을거 같은데 - -) ...
[09:31] <DarkCircle> 외쿸으로!
[09:32] <bluedusk> 저 멍청해서 외국계회사에서 안뽑아줌
[09:32] <bluedusk> ㅠㅠ
[09:32] <bluedusk> 낼 호스트웨이 면접보긴 하는데
[09:32] <ready^T420> 우왕
[09:32] <ready^T420> 호스트웨이
[09:33] <ready^T420> 야탑으로 가시나요?
[09:33] <DarkCircle> 호스트웨이 -ㅅ- 굇수.
[09:33] <bluedusk> 아니 뽑아줘야 가죠
[09:33] <bluedusk> 근데
[09:33] <bluedusk> 가서 직무내용보고
[09:33] <bluedusk> 맘에 안들면 안갈꺼라
[09:33] <jun__> 맘에 안들면....ㄷㄷㄷ
[09:33] <ready^T420> +_+..직장을 선택할 수 있는-
[09:34] <bluedusk> 선택이 아니라
[09:34] <bluedusk> 어차피 가서 개고생하고 주야 교대 근무하고 그럴꺼면
[09:34] <bluedusk> 안가는거죠
[09:34] <bluedusk> 벌써 떨어진 업체만 4군데임
[09:34] <bluedusk> 난 아무래도 무쓸모인듯
[09:34] <jun__> 컥;;;
[09:34] <ready^T420> ;;; 그..그럴리가요
[09:34] <jun__> 전 지금 회사에서 연봉적다고 징징거리지 말고 쭉 다녀야겠네요;;;;
[09:35] <jun__> 고수님들이 이렇게 힘들게 지내셨다니;;
[09:35] <bluedusk> 전 지금 회사에서 연봉 적어서 이직하려는건데요
[09:35] <bluedusk> -_-?
[09:35] <DarkCircle> bluedusk, 아니면 하와이로 이직을 - -) ...
[09:35] <bluedusk> jun__, 저 컴맹이라 연봉도 쥐꼬리 만큼 받는
[09:35] <ready^T420> ㅋㅋ Seony님 계시는
[09:35] <DarkCircle> ㅋㅋ
[09:35] <ready^T420> -0- 전 아예 연봉협상때
[09:35] <DarkCircle> 써니옹 혼자 일하신다고 - -) ...
[09:35] <ready^T420> 돈 이야기는 꺼내지도 않는.. 그냥
[09:35] <ready^T420> 주는대로 감사 굽신굽신
[09:35] <jun__> 연봉 협상 해본적이 없어서;;;;
[09:36] <bluedusk> 전 올해 4천 달라했는데 안줌
[09:36] <jun__> 바쁘지? 싸인해~ 아 이건 가지고 가구... 이렇게 해서 10초만에 협상 끝났는데;;;
[09:36] <bluedusk> 그래서 걍 이직을.;
[09:36] <jun__> ㅎㅎㅎㅎㅎ
[09:36] <ready^T420> 읭 써니님 사수가 나갔나-
[09:36] <DarkCircle> 넹 죽이는 곳으로 나갔데요
[09:36] <ready^T420> 오
[09:37] <bluedusk> 아 미란티스?
[09:37] <DarkCircle> 넹 거기
[09:37] <ready^T420> 우오오오
[09:37] <DarkCircle> 회사가 죽인다기보단 ...
[09:37] <DarkCircle> 연봉이 죽이는거겠제 (중얼중얼)
[09:38] <bluedusk> 러시아계 미녀들이 많아서 죽이는거 아니였나요?
[09:38] <ready^T420> 오...오픈스택 +_+
[09:38] <bluedusk> 우크라이나 러시아계 미녀들
[09:38] <bluedusk> 하앜하앜
[09:38] <bluedusk> 오픈스택따위
[09:38] <DarkCircle> 근데 그런데 보면 -ㅅ-
[09:38] <bluedusk> 하앜하앜
[09:38] <DarkCircle> 솔직히 우리나라 엔지니어들
[09:38] <DarkCircle> 너무 노예같음 ..
[09:38] <DarkCircle> ㅡ,.ㅡ
[09:38] <bluedusk> 뭐
[09:38] <ready^T420> -_-... 그..그게
[09:38] <bluedusk> 전 잡일꾼 3 정도 위치인듯
[09:38] <ready^T420> 한국에서 갈고 닦여진(?) 습성..이라고나 할까요
[09:38] <DarkCircle> 원래 우리나라 엔지니어들 실력이면
[09:38] <bluedusk> 저 오늘 11시 반에 출근함
[09:39] <DarkCircle> 지금 연봉의 못해도 6~7배는 받아야 되는데
[09:39] <bluedusk> 전 실력없어서 뭐
[09:39] <bluedusk> 그정도까지는..
[09:39] <DarkCircle> 일본가면...
[09:39] <bluedusk> 워낙 출중한 인간들 많아서
[09:39] <DarkCircle> 할줄 아는게 너무 많아서 회사에 취직이 안됨..
[09:39] <DarkCircle> (대부분)
[09:39] <bluedusk> 바람 넣지 마요
[09:39] <DarkCircle> 훅훅=3=3
[09:39] <ready^T420> 저도 뭐 그냥 주는대로 굽신굽신-
[09:39] <bluedusk> 헐
[09:39] <bluedusk> chef 쓸만한가요?
[09:39] <bluedusk> 설치해보고 있긴 한데
[09:39] <bluedusk> 쩝
[09:39] <DarkCircle> 우리나라 엔지니어는 외국 나가면 맥가이버
[09:40] <ready^T420> chef는 뭠까
[09:40] <jun__> chef?
[09:40] <bluedusk> chef
[09:40] <ready^T420> 아하
[09:40] <ready^T420> 매니지먼트군요
[09:40] <ready^T420> 음..
[09:41] <ready^T420> 켁.. 이름이 셰프 나이프;;;
[09:41] <bluedusk> 아니 100명도 안되는 회사에 서버가 넘 많아요
[09:41] <bluedusk> aws에 올라가 있는 서버만 15대
[09:41] <ready^T420> -_-ㅋ 저희도 이번에 aws로 옮기려는데
[09:41] <bluedusk> 그외 내부 도메인 붙여서 쓰고 잇는것 까지 하면 30대는 족히 넘어감
[09:41] <ready^T420> 한대씩 야금야금
[09:42] <bluedusk> ready^T420, 걍 제가 옮겨드릴께요 일당만 맞쳐주세요
[09:42] <ready^T420> bluedusk: ㅋㅋㅋㅋ 저희 본부장님이 메가존을 엮어서
[09:42] <jun__> 큭... 괜히 연봉이야기때 챗방에 있었어...ㅜㅜ 울고 싶슴돠~
[09:42] <bluedusk> openvpn 서버 구축해서 vpc에 쪽 subnet이랑 사내 내부 네트웍이랑 붙여서 쓰고 있긴 한데
[09:42] <ready^T420> 근데 메가존에 연락안한지 꽤됐네요 -,.- 제가 다해서
[09:43] <bluedusk> 쩝
[09:43] <bluedusk> 메가존에는 잘 아는사람 있으려나..
[09:43] <jun__> 메가존????
[09:43] <bluedusk> 뭐 모르면 물어볼사람이 없음
[09:43] <bluedusk> 짱남
[09:43] <ready^T420> 저흰 퍼블릭으로 서비스하는 서버 몇대 올리고
[09:43] <ready^T420> bluedusk: 첨에 만난 컨택포인트는 그런데
[09:44] <ready^T420> 나중엔 시니어 아키텍트들이랑 이야기하니까 -_-ㅋ 그냥저냥.. 뭐 제가 워낙 모르니
[09:44] <bluedusk> 사실 저도 잘 모름
[09:44] <ready^T420> 원래 소프트레이어 쓰려고 했는데
[09:44] <bluedusk> << 예전엔 그냥 컴맹이라고 했는데
[09:44] <ready^T420> 완전 망...
[09:44] <ready^T420> -_-...
[09:44] <bluedusk> 걍 멍청한듯..ㅠㅠ
[09:45] <ready^T420> -_-ㅋ 저도 엊그제 부로 한살 더 먹어서
[09:45] <ready^T420> 더 멍청해짐.
[09:45] <bluedusk> 전 걍 멍청멍청 열매를 먹고 자란듯..ㅋㅋ
[09:45] <bluedusk> 전 퇴근할께요
[09:45] <ready^T420> bluedusk: (__)
[09:45] <bluedusk> 집에 가자고 하네요
[09:45] <jun__> 예~ 들어가세요~
[09:45] <ready^T420> 면접 잘 보세요
[09:45] <jun__> 좋은 결과 있길 기원할께요~
[09:45] <bluedusk> 전 별로 기대 안해서 ㅋ
[09:46] <bluedusk> 여튼 감사하빈다. 그럼 이만
[09:46] <ready^T420> ㅠㅠ
[09:46] <ready^T420> 이런
[09:46] <ready^T420> 입사자가 다음주에 온다네요
[09:46] <ready^T420> -_-.. 사무실에 자리가.. 도저히 없는데
[09:46] <jun__> ㅎㅎㅎㅎ
[09:47] <ready^T420> 사람이 올때마다 자리배치 -0-...
[09:47] <jun__> 신입으로 들어오면 반은 욕먹겠는데요?
[09:47] <jun__> 너 때문에 자리 배치 다시 한다구;;;
[09:47] <ready^T420> -_-;;; 아 그렇진 않은데
[09:47] <ready^T420> 그냥 우리 본부장 자리 빼려구요
[09:47] <ready^T420> 윗층 가시라고
[09:47] <jun__> 오우~~~
[09:50] <ready^T420> 저희 팀도 신입이 곧 들어오려고
[09:50] <ready^T420> 이번주에 고민을 해보겠다고
[09:52] <jun__> 저도 신입으로 뽑아주세요~ 열심히 하겟습니다~
[09:57] <ready^T420> ;;;;
[09:57] <ready^T420> jun__: 지금 직장다니시지 않슴까 -0-
[09:58] <jun__> ㅎㅎㅎ 모르겠어요... 요새 회사의 비전을 못 느끼고 있어서요..
[09:58] <ready^T420> 음..
[09:58] <jun__> 무튼... 우울한 기분을 끌고서... 전 퇴근하겠습니다..
[09:58] <jun__> 내일부터 2일간 외근이라... 금요일 쯤에나 뵐 수 있겠네요....ㅎㅎㅎ
[09:58] <jun__> 시간 날때 들어올께요~ 오늘도 수고 하셨습니다~ 편한 밤 되세요~
[10:00] <DarkCircle> ㅁㄴㅇㄹ
[10:58] <Dracokr> 오늘 트위터에 오픈소스에 대한 글이 많던데...뭔일이지
[10:59] <Dracokr> 먼가 이슈돨만한 일이 있었나요
[11:05] <DarkCircle> 토발즈가 리눅스 커널을 만든걸 자랑하려고 만들었다고 개드립
[11:05] <DarkCircle> 그래서 분위기는 따끈~따끈~ ...
[11:41] <ZNC_autowiz> 따끈 따끈 인가요 , 핫뜨그 핫뜨그 인가요? ㅎㅎ
[11:50] <DarkCircle> 훈훈해요(ㅇㅇ?)
[13:46] <root____7> 안녕하세요 혹시 pycharm 사용하시는 분?
[18:15] <Work^Seony> 안녕하세요
[18:15] <samahui_> 안녕하세요~
[18:15] <samahui_> 출근하셨나보군요
[18:16] <Work^Seony> 네 출근해서 커피 한 잔 타갖구 왔어요
[18:16] <Work^Seony> 근데 아직 일하시나봐요
[18:16] <samahui_> 상큼한 아침기운이 물씬 풍겨 여기까지 닫는듯 합니다
[18:16] <samahui_> 네 저도 뜨뜻한 커피 끓여다 놓고 홀짝거리면서 일하고 있습니다
[18:17] <Work^Seony> 흐 그렇군요. 요즘 한국 날씨가 따뜻해졌나봐요
[18:17] <samahui_> 낮에는 많이 따스합니다
[18:17] <samahui_> 하지만 아직은 새벽저녁으로 쌀쌀하기도해요. 비가 조금씩 내리는 날씨거든요
[18:18] <Work^Seony> 그래도 이제 봄이 오네요
[18:18] <samahui_> 봄은 한창이죠 ㅎㅎ 꽃나무들에 꽃이 만발이예요
[18:18] <Work^Seony> 이 동네는 1년 내내 계절이 없어서 그런건 없긴하지만, 비정상회담 외국인들이 하는 말처럼 꼭 4계절이 뚜렷한게 장점은 아닌거 같아요 ㅎㅎ
[18:19] <samahui_> 전에 나눴던 대화인데... 전 계절 나뉘는거 싫어라합니다
[18:19] <samahui_> 그덕분에 계절별 옷도 따로 필요하고 유행타면 그마져도 다음해에 못입죠
[18:19] <Work^Seony> 글쵸...
[18:20] <Work^Seony> 덕분에 여기서는 티셔츠에 구멍 여러개 뚫리는건 별 대수롭지도 않게 생각해요 ㅎㅎ
[18:20] <samahui_> 거기다 냉난방 따로따로 해결할 방도들을 그때그때 갖추어야하니 그것도 안좋아요
[18:20] <samahui_> ㅎㅎ
[18:21] <samahui_> 확실히 전 가서 살아야 할까봐요 ㅎㅎ
[18:21] <Work^Seony> ㅎㅎ 체질적으로 그게 맞으실거 같아요
[18:21] <Work^Seony> 캘리포니아도 날씨가 진짜 살기 좋은 곳이거든요
[18:21] <Work^Seony> 년중 평균기온이 18도에요
[18:22] <samahui_> 캘리포니아에 있을때 느낀건데 정말 상황만 되면 그대로 뿌리 내리고 싶었어요
[18:22] <samahui_> 더워도 그늘에 있으면 선선하니 좋더라고요
[18:23] <Work^Seony> 글쵸
[18:23] <samahui_> 근데 요즘은 이상기후로 그렇게 일정하지만은 안은거 같던데요 ㅎㅎ
[18:23] <Work^Seony> 여기도, 아무리 더워도 그늘에 있으면 시원하긴 해요
[18:23] <samahui_> 하와이가 좋을거 같아요
[18:23] <Work^Seony> 네 그 동네야 뭐 음모론의 중심지이니... ㅎㅎ
[18:23] <Work^Seony> 하와이는 보통 기상이변은 없는데, 전세계적으로 드문 활화산이 있어서, 화산 터지면 무지 더워요
[18:24] <samahui_> 저번에 케이블에서 하와이 화산지대 관광하는게 나오던데 바닷물이 펄펄 끓더군요
[18:24] <samahui_> 거기다 용암이 바다로 떨어지고 있는데 그걸 옆에서 배타고 구경하더군요. 나름 스릴있을거 같아요
[18:24] <Work^Seony> 글쵸 용암이니깐요
[18:29] <samahui_> 크게 한번 터지면... 대책이 없긴 하겠어요... 바다 한가운데 있는 섬들이니... 도망갈곳이 없겠네요
[18:31] <Work^Seony> 다행히 그 섬은 사람이 많이 안살아요
[18:32] <Work^Seony> 하와이 커피로 유명한 "코나" 라는 지역이 그 섬에 있긴하지만, 화산이랑은 먼 것 같더라구요
[18:32] <samahui_> 하와이 커피가 맛있는 이유는 화산에 로스팅해서 ㅎㅎ
[18:33] <Work^Seony> ㅎㅎ 하와이 커피가 유명한 이유는, 시큼한 맛이 나기 때문인데요, 사실 한국사람들은 시큼한 맛 별로 안좋아하잖아요
[18:33] <Work^Seony> 서양인들은 무지 좋아핳거든요
[18:33] <samahui_> 그렇군요
[18:33] <Work^Seony> 사워크림이라던가, 타바스코 소스 같은걸 보면 시큼하죠
[18:33] <samahui_> 전 씁쓸한 향을 즐기지 맛은 모르겠어요 ㅎㅎ
[18:33] <samahui_> 시큼떨떠름하죠
[18:34] <Work^Seony> 저도 커피 맛은 잘 모르는 사람이었는데, 여기서 매일 마시다보니 걍 익숙해졌어요
[18:34] <samahui_> 그러고보니 핫소스조차 시큼한 맛이 있군요
[18:34] <Work^Seony> 잘은 모르지만 진하게 안마시면 보리차 마시는 거 같아서, 진하게 마셔요
[18:34] <samahui_> 전 커피 잘 마시는 편이 아니라서 그냥 보리차 처럼 놓고 일할때 한잔씩해요 ㅎㅎ
[18:35] <Work^Seony> 그게 좋죠 ㅎㅎ
[18:35] <samahui_> 별다방에서 아메리카노사면... 2리터 물통과 희석해서 마셔야되요...써서 ㅎㅎ;;
[18:36] <Work^Seony> 거기껀 좀 쓰긴 해요
[18:36] <samahui_> 많이 쓴거 같아요
[18:37] <samahui_> 맛도 없이 쓴데 잘팔리는거 보면... 흠... 한국사람들은 확실히 맛으로 마시는건 아닌가봅니다
[18:37] <Work^Seony> ㅋㅋ
[18:37] <Work^Seony> 대신 모카나 라떼가 맛있잖아요
[18:39] <samahui_> 카페모카나 카라멜마키아또 마시면 달달하니 이건 커피가 아니라 커피향 쉐이크죠 ㅎㅎ
[18:39] <Work^Seony> 맞아요 ㅎㅎ
[18:39] <Work^Seony> 커피향 쉐이크... 적절한데요 ㅎㅎ
[18:40] <samahui_> 더기다 휘핑크림에 시럽까지 듬뿍 엊어서 마시면 더욱더 그러하죠
[18:40] <samahui_> 제 마눌님 취향이십니다 ㅎㅎ
[18:41] <samahui_> 좋아라하니 한번씩 사다주는데 이거 한잔이면 얼마나 칼로리충전이 될까~ 싶어서 걱정이 살살되요
[18:41] <Work^Seony> 칼로리 엄청나죠
[18:41] <samahui_> 오호 한화가 이겼군요
[18:41] <samahui_> ㅜㅜ 야구하는걸 깜박하고 못봤네요... 다음팟으로 보면 되는디 ....
[18:42] <Work^Seony> ㅎㅎ 직원들 출근하기 전에 어서 보세요
[18:42] <samahui_> 후딱 일하고 살짝 눈붙일때 패드로 봐야죠
[18:42] <samahui_> 전 목금토일 쉬거든요
[18:43] <samahui_> 친구놈 결혼식겸 해서 대전가야되는데 그냥 휴가내고 집에서 푸욱 쉬다오려고요
[18:43] <Work^Seony> 오오 4일 쉬세요?
[18:43] <Work^Seony> 아 휴가..
[18:43] <samahui_> 아내랑 아기도 대려가서 부모님께 놀아드릴 시간도 드리고... 더불어 아내와 데이트도 좀 해야죠 ㅎㅎ
[18:44] <samahui_> 그래서 날 잡았어요... 이번주 그렇게 놀고 피로 좀 풀어놔야 다음 주 이사하는데 지장이 없죠 ㅎㅎ
[18:44] <Work^Seony> 그러게요. 좀 쉬시면서 하세요.
[18:44] <samahui_> 오늘만 잘 넘기면 5일 휴가의 효과가... ㅎㅎ
[18:44] <samahui_> 일 대충 다 해놓고 살짜쿵 쇼부 봐야죠
[18:44] <samahui_> ㅎㅎ
[18:45] <Work^Seony> 그럼 오늘 오후부터 휴가시군요
[18:45] <samahui_> 낮에 미팅만 갖고 그대로 내빼고 싶은 마음입니다 ㅎㅎ
[18:45] <samahui_> 밤샘하면서 일은 대충 다해가거든요
[18:45] <samahui_> 일정 맞춰놨으니 다음주까지 저 없어도 될겁니다 .. 라는 작은 희망을 갖고 있죠
[18:46] <Work^Seony> 걍 개기세요 ㅎㅎ
[18:46] <samahui_> 뭐... 안되면 다음주에도 밤샘으로... ㅜㅜ
[18:46] <samahui_> 개길겁니다
[18:46] <samahui_> ㅎㅎ
[18:46] <Work^Seony> 그럼 아얄씨에서도 한 일주일간은 못뵈겠네요
[18:47] <samahui_> 뭐 그거야 대전가서 심심하면 들어오겠죠 ㅎㅎ
[18:47] <Work^Seony> 아 ㅎㅎ
[18:47] <samahui_> 주말에 대전가니 야구봐야지 했는데... 금토일 삼연전은 부산이군요 ㅜㅜ
[18:48] <Work^Seony> 저는 야구는 별로 안좋아해서 ㅎㅎ
[18:48] <samahui_> 전 보는건 야구가 잴 재미있고... 몸으로 하는건 농구가 가장 좋아요 ㅎㅎ
[18:50] <Work^Seony> 와이프가 테니스 같이 쳐보자는데 고민 중이에요
[18:50] <samahui_> 해보세요 재미도 있고 운동도 되서 마음에 드실겁니다
[18:50] <samahui_> 확~ 관심을 갖고 싶으시면 우리동네예체능 이라는 프로그램의 테니스편을 보세요
[18:50] <samahui_> 연예인들이 참으로 못해서 나도 해보면 저거보단 잘하겠다는 생각과 테니스 게임의 재미를 느끼실수 있을겁니다
[18:51] <Work^Seony> 예전에 신혼 초에 배드민턴 같이 했었는데 재밌더라구요
[18:51] <samahui_> 저도 마나님과 베드민턴은 자주 쳤는데... 요즘은 육아로 힘드네요 ㅎㅎ;;
[18:52] <Work^Seony> 아기가 끝판왕이네요 ㅎㅎ
[18:52] <samahui_> 우리 마나님이 농구 테니스 베드민튼 볼링 다 잘하셔서 같이 어울리며 운동하고 놀기 좋거든요
[18:52] <samahui_> 근데 아기님이 끝판왕으로 나오셔서 요즘은 휴업상태죠 ㅎㅎ
[18:53] <samahui_> 덕분에 저만 가끔 시간날때 농구하러 가는 그런 형국입니다. 더불어 함께 살도 찌고 있죠 ㅎㅎ
[18:53] <Work^Seony> 와이프께서는 우울증 괜찮으세요?
[18:53] <samahui_> 근데 좀 더 크면 유모차 태워서 데리고 다니면서 운동다닐려고요
[18:53] <samahui_> 우울증은 없어지고 폭력증이... 쿨룩
[18:53] <samahui_> 여기서 이런예기하면 맞아요 ㅜㅜ
[18:53] <samahui_> ㅎㅎ
[18:53] <ZNC_autowiz> 운동 잘하시나 봅니다 , 부럽~
[18:54] <samahui_> 운동을 잘해서 잘때립니다
[18:54] <samahui_> 부러워마세요 ㅜㅜ
[18:55] <DarkCircle> 부럽 -ㅂ-
[18:55] <ZNC_autowiz> 그냥 때리는정도가 아니라 정말 아프게 때리시는거겠지요?
[18:55] <DarkCircle> 하지만 등짝을 제대로 맞으면 -ㅅ- ... (먼산)
[18:55] <samahui_> ati그래픽 들어간 노트북이 있는데 이게 14.04이후로 다중 모니터 이용하다 화면 멈추는 경우가 종종 있네요
[18:55] <DarkCircle> ....................................
[18:55] <ZNC_autowiz> 음... 그래도 조금 부럽...
[18:55] <samahui_> ㅜㅜ
[18:56] <samahui_> 부럽다뇨... 등짝이 제 등짝이 아닙니다
[18:56] <samahui_> 보통의 여자들처럼 짝이 아닙니다... 쩍 혹은 퍽 입니다
[18:56] <ZNC_autowiz> 14.04 이후로 단일 nvidia 도 cli gui 전환하다가 멈추는경우 많이 봤습니다.
[18:56] <ZNC_autowiz> acpi 쪽 문제인거 같더네요
[18:56] <DarkCircle> 등짝 제대로 맞으면 호흡정지 + 심정지 (...)
[18:56] <samahui_> 작업하다 저장도 안했는데 멈추면... 에휴
[18:56] <Work^Seony> 일명 등짝 스매쉬
[18:56] <ZNC_autowiz> 어우 ...
[18:57] <ZNC_autowiz> 그래도 같이 살면 얼마나 좋을까 그저 부럽기만 한 총각 ㅋㅋ
[18:57] <DarkCircle> 등짝 근육을 단련해야겠군요 ?ㅅ?a
[18:57] <samahui_> 등짝에 근육이 붙으면 더 아파요... 살을 붙여야합니다
[18:58] <samahui_> 근육파열일어나면 마이 아파요
[18:58] <samahui_> 근데... 여서 이러다.. 마눌님이 눈팅하시면 저 큰일납니다
[18:58] <Work^Seony> 많이 아프죠 ㅎㅎ
[18:59] <samahui_> 덥어야겠군요
[18:59] <Work^Seony> 설마 이 싯간에요...
[18:59] <DarkCircle> -ㅅ- 지켜보고있다모드
[18:59] <samahui_> 제 마나님은 이쁘고 착하고 요리잘하고...손이 참 맵습니다
[18:59] <samahui_> 아기가 안잔다고 방금 전화왔습니다
[18:59] <samahui_> 분명 지켜보고 있지 않을까하는 불안감이... ㅜㅜ
[18:59] <Work^Seony> 헛! 비상이군요
[19:00] <DarkCircle> 집에서 아얘 모니터를 뽑아버리심이 ㅡ,.ㅡ
[19:00] <samahui_> ㅎㅎㅎㅎㅎ
[19:00] <samahui_> 인터넷을 끊어버리고 싶지만 저희집은 따로 TV를 안놔서 모니터에 U+ 셋톱으로 보는지라...
[19:00] <samahui_> TV라도 있어야 화를 달래드립니다
[19:01] <Work^Seony> 집에다 닉네임 2개를 걸어놓으세요
[19:01] <samahui_> ㅎㅎㅎ
[19:01] <Work^Seony> 프리노드는 3개는 접속 거부거든요
[19:01] <DarkCircle> 그리고 천수과늠보살스매시를 ...
[19:01] <samahui_> 다행이 저희집은 IRC접속이 안됩니다... 다만 제 걱정은 ... 구글링으로 기록이 뜨는것!!!
[19:01] <DarkCircle> 푸루루롸아아악!
[19:01] <Work^Seony> 아... ㅎㅎ
[19:01] <DarkCircle> 봇을 빼야겠(?)
[19:02] <Work^Seony> 저희들만 아는 닉을 하나 더 만드시는 겁니다 ㅋ
[19:02] <samahui_> 앞으로 씹을때는 그분으로 해야겠네요 흐흐흐
[19:02] <DarkCircle> 채널 점검을 빙자한 봇 빼고박기
[19:02] <samahui_> 칭찬할때만 마눌이나 마나님으로다가...
[19:03] <DarkCircle> 하지만 분노의 구글링을 하시면 -ㅅ-
[19:03] <DarkCircle> (...................)
[19:03] <samahui_> 절대로 본인인거 모르게... 상사 욕하는척.... 하지만 상사가 또 그글을 본다면... 진퇴양난이군요 ㅜㅜ
[19:03] <samahui_> 구글링을 참으로 잘하십니다
[19:03] <samahui_> 저희 과 후배님이시라 ㅜㅜ
[19:03] <DarkCircle> 상사에게 몰래 이실직고를 해서 일단은 한쪽 목숨이라도 부지해야 ㅡ,.ㅡ
[19:03] <samahui_> ㅜㅜ
[19:04] <ZNC_autowiz> 과 후배 오오
[19:04] <samahui_> irc에서 열심히 씹는데 상대방이 상사였던 경험자 1인
[19:04] <DarkCircle> 이게..그렇고..그래서..그리하여..그러하니...그리됩니다.
[19:04] <DarkCircle> ㅇㅇ
[19:05] <samahui_> 일하던 노트북 뻤었어욧 ㅎㅎㅎ 역시 지급품 ㅜㅜ
[19:05] <samahui_> 된장
[19:05] <DarkCircle> 의미없는 코딩에 곶통받는중 ㄱ- ㄱ- ...
[19:06] <Work^Seony> 의미없는 코딩 ㅎㅎ
[19:06] <samahui_> 마우스만 움직이는군요 아싸~ 10분전 저장하고 채팅하면서 놀아서 다행입니다
[19:06] <samahui_> 의미없는 코딩 ㅎㅎ
[19:06] <samahui_> 일 그만하고 자러가라는 하늘의 계시입니다
[19:07] <samahui_> 전 한숨자고 내일 컴백 혹은 나중에 컴백하겠사옵니다 ...부디 내일도 땡땡이쳐서 수목금토일 놀수있기를 기원해주세요~
[19:07] <DarkCircle> 코드는 이리저리 조금씩 쌓아올라가긴 한데 이게 결과로 나오게 하려니 ... 아 _-_ 이거 바벨탑이네요
[19:07] <DarkCircle> 망.
[19:07] <Work^Seony> 점점 스파게티가 되간다고 하죠 ㅎㅎ
[19:08] <DarkCircle> 만줄 정도 짜야 하나가 겨우 돌아가려나 ...
[19:08] <samahui_> ㅎㅎ;;
[19:08] <DarkCircle> 망할 php...
[19:08] <DarkCircle> 네이밍도 ㅂㅅ이고 ... 문법도 ㅂㅅ이고 ...
[19:09] <samahui_> 전 이만 가보겠습니다
[19:09] <samahui_> 즐거운 코딩되세요~
[19:09] <DarkCircle> 아침에 살아계시길 _0_
[19:09] <samahui_> 네!
[19:10] <samahui_> 그럼 이만~
[23:43] <HolyKnight> @random_pory: 번역) 「항상 남자친구와 이어폰을 한쪽씩 끼고 범프의 노래를 듣습니다」라는 커플의 편지에 대해 후지와라 모토오(bump of chicken의 보컬겸 기타)가「스테레오 음원은 L과 R이 다른 소리를 내니까 그러지 마세요」라고 말했다. 참 옳은 말이었다.
[23:50] <Dracokr> ㅋㅋㅋㅋ
|
ubuntu-chat
|
2024-05-13T22:11:15.973810
| 2015-04-07T00:00:00 |
{
"license": "Public Domain",
"authors": [
"DarkCircle",
"Dracokr",
"HolyKnight",
"Jason___",
"PotatoGim",
"Seony",
"Work^Seony",
"ZNC_autowiz",
"bluedusk",
"jun__",
"popeye92",
"razGon_MINILA",
"ready^T420",
"root____7",
"samahui_",
"samahui_WS"
],
"url": "https://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2015/04/07/%23ubuntu-ko.txt",
"channel": "#ubuntu-ko"
}
|
2015-04-07-#ubuntu-release
|
[00:29] <infinity> (base)adconrad@cthulhu:~/review/lxd-0.5$ cat debian/compat
[00:29] <infinity> 7
[00:29] <infinity> 9
[00:29] <infinity> (base)adconrad@cthulhu:~/review/lxd-0.5$
[00:29] <infinity> stgraber: ^-- So, uh, which one is it?
[00:30] <infinity> stgraber: (pls fix, the syntax error there confuses the crap out of pkg-create-dbgsym's toddler-level parser)
[00:31] <stgraber> oh wow, how did that happen
[00:32] <infinity> stgraber: My bet is it was 7, lintian whined "build-dep on 9, but compat is 7" and the fix was "echo 9 >> debian/compat" instead of "echo 9 > debian/compat".
[00:32] <infinity> stgraber: But that's just a guess.
[00:32] <stgraber> seems probable. Though it's odd nothing blew up before, git tells me it's been like that ever since the first lxd upload :)
[00:33] <infinity> stgraber: I only noticed it in passing cause I was watching a build.
[00:33] <infinity> stgraber: And it really, really confuses pkg-create-dbgsym. :)
[00:33] <infinity> stgraber: Oddly, it doesn't seem to upset debhelper itself at all.
[00:34] <stgraber> alright, fix uploaded, thanks for catching :)
[00:34] <stgraber> also:
[00:34] <stgraber> stgraber@dakara:~/data/code/lxc$ lintian -iI --pedantic lxd_0.5-0ubuntu3.dsc
[00:34] <stgraber> stgraber@dakara:~/data/code/lxc$
[00:34] <stgraber> lintian doesn't appear to have a very good debian/compat check :)
[11:48] <kickinz1> doko: I've updated bug 1430760, with the modifications requested.
[15:30] <rbasak> infinity: fancy taking another look at the Docker FFe please? Bug 1430760. Haven't heard from doko, but kickinz1 added the two changes suggested by him.
[15:30] <rbasak> We still aren't expecting things to work on arm64, but I'm told that even though it built before, it never worked.
[15:36] <infinity> rbasak: I can't see why one wouldn't expect it to work, to be honest, unless the libgo runtime is fundamentally broken on that platform.
[15:37] <infinity> rbasak: I assume the debdiff in the bug is against sid?
[15:38] <rbasak> infinity: it's against experimental
[15:39] <rbasak> kickinz1: ^^ that's accurate, right?
[15:40] <rbasak> The last change will make it attempt arm64 against gccgo now I think, so that might help.
[15:40] <infinity> Err, yes. I meant "against Debian" :)
[15:42] <infinity> Apparently against a version that isn't in Debian anymore. Whee, hunting in snapshot commences.
[15:43] <infinity> rbasak: The 1.6.0~rc4 upload has "- enable "docker.service" on boot by default for restart policies to work" ... Do we want to cherrypick that?
[15:44] <infinity> kickinz1: ^
[15:46] <rbasak> jamespage: ^^ any comment please?
[15:49] <kickinz1> infinity, I would say yes,
[18:10] <jamespage> rbasak, what was the question?
[19:57] <rbasak> jamespage: do we want to cherry-pick "- enable "docker.service" on boot by default for restart policies to work"
[19:57] <rbasak> from 1.6.0~rc4?
|
ubuntu-chat
|
2024-05-13T22:11:15.986184
| 2015-04-07T00:00:00 |
{
"license": "Public Domain",
"authors": [
"infinity",
"jamespage",
"kickinz1",
"rbasak",
"stgraber"
],
"url": "https://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2015/04/07/%23ubuntu-release.txt",
"channel": "#ubuntu-release"
}
|
2015-04-07-#lubuntu
|
[16:32] <wxl> any people here shared files b/t lubuntu and windows 8.1?
[17:14] <ianorlin> wxl don't have windows 8.1 so can't try to do that
[17:27] <advisor> hi all, i have a big problem with a lubuntu install and pray to god you can help me fix it
[17:27] <advisor> this thing is uefi, after removing lightdm it does not recognize the harddisk anymore and doesn't boot
[17:28] <advisor> from a live cd, gparted shows an absolutely effed up drive layout, is that normal for an ssd ?
[17:32] <ianorlin> advisor: why did you remove lightdm
[17:33] <advisor> ianorlin: because i prefer xdm
[17:33] <ianorlin> advisor: ah
[17:33] <advisor> xdm and fluxbox were installed and working well
[17:34] <ianorlin> advisor: does any os boot on it or was it just lubuntu
[17:34] <advisor> only lubuntu was installed
[17:34] <advisor> no dual-boot or such
[17:36] <GreenScreen> hi. what would the update "web browser engine update for qt" be for?
[17:37] <ianorlin> GreenScreen: where does it say that?
[17:37] <ianorlin> in update-manager?
[17:38] <GreenScreen> it was an update that came across today
[17:38] <GreenScreen> what program is it tied to?
[17:38] <GreenScreen> webkit?
[17:38] <ianorlin> do you have qupzilla installed by any chance?
[17:40] <GreenScreen> nope
[17:40] <GreenScreen> ok, so it appears webkit components are installed. any particular reason?
[17:40] <GreenScreen> for GTK+
[17:41] <ianorlin> GreenScreen: the way I would do this is apt-cache rdepends on the command line
[17:41] <ianorlin> I can't think of a graphical way right now
[17:42] <ianorlin> what I would do is dpkg -l | grep webkit for which ones are installed
[17:42] <ianorlin> then run apt-cache rdepends to see what pulled it in
[18:13] <salut> hello
[18:14] <salut> I need help could somebody tell me if there is a version less than 700 mb ?
[18:27] <acz32> is there any reason to stick with lubuntu 14.04 instead of upgrading? i've never updated an ubuntu release before but it looks pretty easy. the software manager notified me of the new release and looks like it can take care of the upgrade
[18:56] <ianorlin> acz32: if you upgrade be aware when 14.10 ends support sooner
[18:56] <ianorlin> ending up with an eol release is not fun
[19:22] <MajB> acz32: Yes there is one reason. 14.04 is supported for 3 years. 14.10 is only supported for about 4 more months. Then you will have upgrade again to 15.05 which is also only supported for 9 months.
[19:24] <teward> MajB: s/15.05/15.04/ ?
[19:25] <teward> (typocheck?)
[19:36] <jirido> Hi. I just installed lxde on a ubuntu 14.04 and sudo and other autentiation stopped working.. likwise logout.. So could i get a sugestion on what to start and how .. I would be so glad >(
[19:39] <jirido> upps
[19:39] <jirido> Actually only logout not working is the problem
|
ubuntu-chat
|
2024-05-13T22:11:15.991966
| 2015-04-07T00:00:00 |
{
"license": "Public Domain",
"authors": [
"GreenScreen",
"MajB",
"acz32",
"advisor",
"ianorlin",
"jirido",
"salut",
"teward",
"wxl"
],
"url": "https://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2015/04/07/%23lubuntu.txt",
"channel": "#lubuntu"
}
|
2015-04-07-#ubuntu-pl
|
[07:51] <tomodachi> fxp? to byla interesujaca funcja w czasy kiedy sie mialo dialup
[07:51] <tomodachi> wole latwy nat traversal i encryptcja codziennie niz to i ftp
[10:17] <jacekowski> tomodachi: ale FTP ma latwy nat traversa
[10:17] <jacekowski> l
[10:17] <jacekowski> tomodachi: nazywa sie passive mode i 100% serwerow to obsluguje
[10:22] <drathir> bry...
[10:27] <tomodachi> mam nadzieje ze mowisz o firewalls
[15:59] <jacekowski> tomodachi: tez, dla firewalla polaczenie z danymi w trybie pasywnym to jest normalne szyfrowane polaczenie SSL (albo i nie) inicjowane przez klienta
[16:00] <jacekowski> tomodachi: o ile firewall nie ma jakiejs glupiej konfiguracji to jest to dziala to bezproblemowo
[16:22] <haruto> Cześć, zna ktoś możę alternatywę dla meGUI pod UBUNTU, chodzi mi o wsparcie dla wgrywania na harda napisów
[16:22] <ftpd> mplayer
[16:22] <ftpd> Czy tam mencoder.
[16:23] <ftpd> A, nie widziałeś.
[16:24] <ftpd> [18:22:44] <ftpd> mplayer
[16:24] <ftpd> [18:22:48] <ftpd> Czy tam mencoder.
[16:24] <ftpd> Ale to nie ma gui, ja się szanuję.
[16:24] <Ashiren> moze avidemux
[16:25] <haruto_> A wgram tym czcionki plus napisy ass z efektami ?
[16:26] <ftpd> Plus napisy ass?
[16:26] <Ashiren> cos tam do wgrywania do napisow ma
[16:26] <gjm> napisy my ass
[16:27] <ftpd> I Twoją matkę też.
[16:27] <ftpd> To ten, idę z roboty do domu.
[16:27] <ftpd> Czus.
[16:28] <haruto_> W porównaniu do megui to wypada słabo
[16:28] <Ashiren> ale hrabia sie znalazl
[16:29] <gjm> zainstaluj se windowsa
[16:29] <haruto_> http://www.mplayerhq.hu/DOCS/HTML/pl/menc-feat-selecting-codec.html gdzie tu opcja dodadania napisów
[16:30] <haruto_> *dodawania
[16:31] <haruto_> Mam np, mkv a w środku napisy ass plus video mp4 i dżwięk w aac i chcę zrobić z tego harda bo na pewnym sprzęcie nie idą napisy
[16:32] <Ashiren> cos takiego http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1155877
[16:32] <Ashiren> tylko pobawic sie vcodeciem
[16:34] <haruto_> Tylko czy pójdą efekty z ass
[16:36] <haruto_> Dobra może pójdzie, choć megui wydaje się lepiej konfiguralny
[16:37] <gjm> gui hui
[16:37] <haruto_> heh
[16:37] <haruto_> Nie sztuką jest zrobić to samo pod innym systemem, sztuką jest by jakość i rozmiar były takim samym kompromisem,
[16:44] <haruto_> Dzięki,
[16:45] <Ashiren> mhm
[22:40] <drathir> lol nie prosciej oprocz ass-a wrzucic do mkv srt-ka jak to zawsze robie? srt chyba kazdy obsluzy co mkv rozpozna...
|
ubuntu-chat
|
2024-05-13T22:11:15.999480
| 2015-04-07T00:00:00 |
{
"license": "Public Domain",
"authors": [
"Ashiren",
"drathir",
"ftpd",
"gjm",
"haruto",
"haruto_",
"jacekowski",
"tomodachi"
],
"url": "https://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2015/04/07/%23ubuntu-pl.txt",
"channel": "#ubuntu-pl"
}
|
2015-04-07-#ubuntu-kernel
|
[13:47] <rtg> apw, bug #1374759 is benign, right ?
[13:51] <rtg> cking, do you know anything about btrfs transid patches ? See bug #1441150
[13:52] <cking> rtg, I'll pick that one up and look at it
[13:52] <rtg> cking, thanks
[14:09] <rtg> apw, nm, you said as much: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/1374759/comments/4
[14:48] <rtg> apw, just update unstable to v4.0-rc7
[14:48] <rtg> updated*
[15:06] <jsalisbury> **
[15:06] <jsalisbury> ** Ubuntu Kernel Team Meeting - Today @ 17:00 UTC - #ubuntu-meeting
[15:06] <jsalisbury> **
[16:55] <jsalisbury> ##
[16:55] <jsalisbury> ## Kernel team meeting in 5 minutes
[16:55] <jsalisbury> ##
|
ubuntu-chat
|
2024-05-13T22:11:16.002824
| 2015-04-07T00:00:00 |
{
"license": "Public Domain",
"authors": [
"cking",
"jsalisbury",
"rtg"
],
"url": "https://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2015/04/07/%23ubuntu-kernel.txt",
"channel": "#ubuntu-kernel"
}
|
2015-04-07-#ubuntu+1
|
[08:23] <lordievader> Good morning.
[12:12] <BluesKaj> Hiyas all
[16:44] <mparillo> When opening a file in kate, does anybody else get:
[16:44] <mparillo> Configuration file "/home/marco/.config/katerc" not writable. Please contact your system administrator.
[16:47] <MoonUnit`> i don't see that line
[16:52] <genii> mparillo: Did you do something like run kate with sudo instead of kdesudo previously? That would cause it by making the file owned by root and not the user marco.
[16:52] <genii> mparillo: You could ls -l /home/marco/.config/katerc to see it's ownership
[16:54] <mparillo> genii: I should have known better. I had used sudo on nano, then up-arrowed and changed nano to kate without changing sudo to kdesudo
[16:55] <genii> mparillo: Mystery solved ;)
[16:55] <mparillo> Thanks to you.
[19:17] <spanston> Hello there, I just installed redshift via the software center in Kubuntu but as I try to start it. It only loads in a few seconds and then disappears. I'm using the vivid beta, can that be the cause?
[19:19] <genii> spanston: Is there any useful output if you just issue from Konsole the command: redshift ..?
[19:20] <k1l_> redshift-gtk works here with unity and an intel4000 video card
|
ubuntu-chat
|
2024-05-13T22:11:16.010255
| 2015-04-07T00:00:00 |
{
"license": "Public Domain",
"authors": [
"BluesKaj",
"MoonUnit`",
"genii",
"k1l_",
"lordievader",
"mparillo",
"spanston"
],
"url": "https://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2015/04/07/%23ubuntu%2B1.txt",
"channel": "#ubuntu+1"
}
|
2015-04-07-#ubuntukylin-devel
|
[00:57] <freeflying> happyaron, 搜狗拼音在15.04上能用不
[04:27] <happyaron> freeflying: 必须能啊
|
ubuntu-chat
|
2024-05-13T22:11:16.014494
| 2015-04-07T00:00:00 |
{
"license": "Public Domain",
"authors": [
"freeflying",
"happyaron"
],
"url": "https://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2015/04/07/%23ubuntukylin-devel.txt",
"channel": "#ubuntukylin-devel"
}
|
2015-04-07-#ubuntu-irc
|
[17:36] <ianorlin> hi can I get a member cloak as I am now in the ubuntu-memebers launchpad group?
[17:37] <Pici> ianorlin: Can you provide your lp URL?
[17:38] <ianorlin> https://launchpad.net/~walterorlin
[17:39] <Pici> ianorlin: congrats :)
[17:40] <Pici> Let me see if I can find a freenode staffer to finish things up.
[18:11] <Pici> ianorlin: poof
[18:13] <Fuchs> Pici: rude
[18:37] <Unit193> Hah. :D
|
ubuntu-chat
|
2024-05-13T22:11:16.015881
| 2015-04-07T00:00:00 |
{
"license": "Public Domain",
"authors": [
"Fuchs",
"Pici",
"Unit193",
"ianorlin"
],
"url": "https://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2015/04/07/%23ubuntu-irc.txt",
"channel": "#ubuntu-irc"
}
|
2015-04-07-#maas
|
[05:16] <thetrav> how do I set my MaaS nodes to automatically execute a script on start up?
[05:17] <thetrav> this is the nodes managed by MaaS, not the region/cluster controllers
[06:20] <mup> Bug #1252768 changed: removing (including with --purge) fails on pg script <MAAS:New> <maas (Ubuntu):New> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1252768>
[06:32] <mup> Bug #1252768 was opened: removing (including with --purge) fails on pg script <MAAS:New> <maas (Ubuntu):New> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1252768>
[06:38] <mup> Bug #1252768 changed: removing (including with --purge) fails on pg script <MAAS:New> <maas (Ubuntu):New> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1252768>
[07:14] <mup> Bug #1440994 was opened: maas api "device read <hostname>" returns HTML 404 <api> <juju-net> <robustness> <MAAS:New> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1440994>
[07:14] <mup> Bug #1440996 was opened: maas api "device create" exists but is not documented. <api> <doc> <juju-net> <MAAS:New> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1440996>
[07:44] <mup> Bug #1440998 was opened: maas api "device update <id>" requires setting parent= in addition to hostname=, but it's not documented as required <api> <doc> <juju-net> <MAAS:New> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1440998>
[07:44] <mup> Bug #1441002 was opened: maas api "device set-sticky-ip-address" fails with "500: 'bool' object has not attribute 'uuid'". <api> <juju-net> <robustness> <MAAS:New> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1441002>
[08:06] <mup> Bug #1440894 changed: get_effective_power_parameters() - exceptions.AttributeError: 'unicode' object has no attribute 'copy' <MAAS:New> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1440894>
[08:06] <mup> Bug #1441013 was opened: maas api "device claim-sticky-ip-address" does not allocate an address when there are existing IPs assigned <api> <juju-net> <robustness> <MAAS:New> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1441013>
[08:18] <mup> Bug #1441018 was opened: maas api "device release-sticky-ip-address" could use a better error message <api> <confusing-ui> <doc> <juju-net> <MAAS:New> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1441018>
[08:30] <dimitern> rvba, hey there
[08:30] <rvba> \o dimitern
[08:30] <dimitern> rvba, as you've probably noticed I've tested the 1.8-alpha10 devices support and filed a bunch of bugs
[08:30] <rvba> dimitern: yes, going through them now…
[08:31] <dimitern> rvba, cheers
[08:31] <rvba> Thanks dimitern!
[08:31] <dimitern> rvba, as a general feedback - it looks much more stable than initially :)
[08:31] <rvba> dimitern: cool ;)
[08:32] <dimitern> rvba, what I couldn't quite get is how will the devices work with ipaddresses - I mean claim-sticky-ip is one option, but I was thinking of using ipaddresses reserve and then set-sticky-ip-address with it (to better fit in our addressable containers workflow)
[08:33] <rvba> dimitern: you don't need to reserve the IP and then claim it for the device: just one call to claim-sticky-ip should be enough.
[08:34] <rvba> dimitern: also, don't use set-sticky-ip-address. Just use claim-sticky-ip-address.
[08:34] <dimitern> rvba, is the effect the same? the allocated IP will show as "Static IP" wrt IP Assignement and come from the static range?
[08:34] <rvba> dimitern: we will remove set-sticky-ip-address since claim-sticky-ip-address does exactly the same thing as set-sticky-ip-address when you pass an explicit IP address.
[08:34] <rvba> dimitern: yes
[08:35] <dimitern> rvba, ok, so we'll change juju to use claim-sticky-ip-address for containers instead of ipaddresses reserve, once the 1.8 release is in trusty
[08:35] <rvba> dimitern: sounds good.
[08:36] <dimitern> rvba, or that won't happen before october?
[08:36] <rvba> dimitern: I'm not sure about the timing tbh. roaksoax will know.
[08:37] <dimitern> rvba, ok, we'll chat on the interlock today
[08:38] <rvba> k
[08:39] <mup> Bug #1441021 was opened: maas api "ipaddresses release" unhelpful success message; bad error message on invalid <api> <confusing-ui> <doc> <juju-net> <MAAS:New> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1441021>
[12:18] <mup> Bug #1441133 was opened: MAAS version not exposed over the API <api> <MAAS:Triaged> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1441133>
[13:20] <mup> Bug #1441159 was opened: devices web UI is not updating (need to refresh) <confusing-ui> <dashboard> <juu-core> <MAAS:New> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1441159>
[13:20] <mup> Bug #1441160 was opened: maas should allow comment on why a system is broken <MAAS:Triaged> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1441160>
[14:32] <mup> Bug #1440994 changed: maas api "device read <hostname>" returns HTML 404 <api> <juju-net> <robustness> <MAAS:Invalid> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1440994>
[15:15] <mup> Bug #1441211 was opened: 1.8b1 Node remains clicked in the main page after accessing node details page <MAAS:Triaged> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1441211>
[15:21] <mup> Bug #1441211 changed: 1.8b1 Node remains clicked in the main page after accessing node details page <MAAS:Triaged> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1441211>
[15:33] <mup> Bug #1441211 was opened: 1.8b1 Node remains clicked in the main page after accessing node details page <confusing-ui> <ui> <MAAS:Triaged> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1441211>
[16:00] <saltlake> champs , does anyone have experience with HP proliant servers ? My maas server is unable to control HP server nodes since it is unable to determine the power parameters for those servers. Those servers have ILO2 on them (as displayed on the boot up screen) But I have no idea how and what powere paamaters to set for these HP proliant nodes in their maas configuration
[16:15] <saltlake> I just need a pointer on how to set the power parameters for these HP dl360 G6 nodes.
[17:57] <mup> Bug #1441211 changed: 1.8b1 Node remains clicked in the main page after accessing node details page <confusing-ui> <ui> <MAAS:Triaged> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1441211>
|
ubuntu-chat
|
2024-05-13T22:11:16.036670
| 2015-04-07T00:00:00 |
{
"license": "Public Domain",
"authors": [
"dimitern",
"mup",
"rvba",
"saltlake",
"thetrav"
],
"url": "https://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2015/04/07/%23maas.txt",
"channel": "#maas"
}
|
2015-04-07-#ubuntu-fi
|
[08:54] <elias_a> Onkos muilla mennyt viime aikoina Thunderbirdin osoitteiden kirjoittamisessa oleva automaattinen täydennys rikki?
[08:56] <elias_a> Minulla on ongelmia Enigmailin kanssa ja tuo saattaa johtua siitä, mutta olisi kiva tietää onko muilla esiintynyt samaa.
[08:57] <elias_a> Ennen TB osasi automaattisesti ehdotella vastaanottajan osoitetta mutta nyt osoite näkyy punaisena eikä automaattitäydennys toimi.
|
ubuntu-chat
|
2024-05-13T22:11:16.040100
| 2015-04-07T00:00:00 |
{
"license": "Public Domain",
"authors": [
"elias_a"
],
"url": "https://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2015/04/07/%23ubuntu-fi.txt",
"channel": "#ubuntu-fi"
}
|
2015-04-07-#ubuntu-unity
|
[08:50] <Mirv> tsdgeos: I see there has been more DBus activity, and not all merged. if you can still keep track on what's being updated etc, and when it would seem ready, then another pastebin of "update these and add these" would be very nice.
[08:51] <Mirv> I think though we can't easily land it even if it would fix Plasma issues.. we would need permission from Kubuntu team and they might deem it too risky. we're one week from final freeze.
[08:51] <Mirv> but if we first have a PPA that finally seems working both plasma desktop and phone, then we could at least initiate the discussion.
[08:53] <tsdgeos> Mirv: sure working on that
[09:14] <tsdgeos> Mirv: so this is what i could find http://paste.ubuntu.com/10759851/
[09:14] <tsdgeos> only one updated and one new
[09:17] <Mirv> ok
[14:34] <Trevinho> MacSlow: hey
[14:35] <Trevinho> MacSlow: you remember that flickering you was telling me about some weeks ago with qmlscene...
[14:35] <Trevinho> MacSlow: was that happening on fullscreen windows?
[14:39] <MacSlow> Trevinho, sure remember this...
[14:39] <MacSlow> Trevinho, no... it was not restricted to fullscreen-windows
[14:40] <MacSlow> Trevinho, do you have a patch you want to see tested elsewhere?
[14:40] <Trevinho> MacSlow: mh, ok.... as I got it with full-screen windwos when fullscreen windows redirection was enabled, but not in restored ones
[14:41] <Saviq> Trevinho, I think I've the same with unredirected kodi
[14:41] <Trevinho> MacSlow: it was enough to disable redirecting in ccsm composite for me to get things working, but yours seems something different
[14:42] <Saviq> Trevinho, I added Kodi to the unredirect window pattern to fight tearing videos
[14:42] <Saviq> Trevinho, adverse effect is that now the Kodi UI flickers when video is playing in the back
[14:42] <Trevinho> Saviq: mhmhmh
[14:43] <Trevinho> I've not tested kodi here, I'll give that a look
[14:44] <Trevinho> what I've noticed is that qmlscene fullscreen has some flickers unless I don't (class=QtQmlViewer)
[14:44] <Trevinho> on the blacklist...
[14:45] <Saviq> Trevinho, I added "& !(class=Kodi)"
[14:45] <Trevinho> I see
[14:50] <tsdgeos> dednick: why did you resubmit https://code.launchpad.net/~nick-dedekind/unity8/autopilot_test_failures/+merge/255373 ?
[15:00] <tsdgeos> dandrader_: seen my comment? the laucnher still collapses here with your branch
[15:05] <dandrader> tsdgeos, ah yeah, there's more to the Launcher.qml patch
[15:07] <dandrader> tsdgeos, will post the full patch in a minute. let me try it out
[15:07] <tsdgeos> oki
[15:11] <dednick> tsdgeos: i've deleted the resubmit
[15:11] <tsdgeos> dednick: oki
[15:21] <dandrader> tsdgeos, this is the full patch: http://paste.ubuntu.com/10763187/
[15:23] <tsdgeos> oki
[16:31] <Mirv> tsdgeos: I installed plasma 5 for myself again, still segfaults on startup with the updated patches (=qtbase ubuntu7~test1)
[16:58] <tsdgeos> Mirv: damn :/
[22:34] <TheMuso> Trevinho: I asked bregma and bschaefer last week about why there are 2 separate slightly different private ExpanderView class implementations in dash/FilterExpanderLabel.cpp and unity-shared/SearchBar.cpp and they didn't know, but suggested you might.
[22:35] <TheMuso> Trevinho: I'm wanting to wrap that class for accessibility related stuff for the filter controls.
[22:35] <Trevinho> TheMuso: let me check...
[22:40] <Trevinho> TheMuso: Mh, I guess it was mostly legacy stuff... I mean, the code inside SearchBar was a leftover, and no one had the time to change things so that we could reuse ExpanderView inside SearchBar too....
[22:40] <Trevinho> I cleaned that up a little when changing things for hdpi support, but I didn't get rid of that not to break things
[22:40] <Trevinho> Indeed it would be nicer to have just one implementation...
[22:41] <Trevinho> Err, one base implementation...
[22:42] * bschaefer does not know
[22:42] <TheMuso> Makes sense.
|
ubuntu-chat
|
2024-05-13T22:11:16.045064
| 2015-04-07T00:00:00 |
{
"license": "Public Domain",
"authors": [
"MacSlow",
"Mirv",
"Saviq",
"TheMuso",
"Trevinho",
"bschaefer",
"dandrader",
"dednick",
"tsdgeos"
],
"url": "https://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2015/04/07/%23ubuntu-unity.txt",
"channel": "#ubuntu-unity"
}
|
2015-04-07-#ubuntustudio
|
[03:27] <isfelstudio-user> k
[06:31] <bobbyk2015> hi everyone I'm ne here
[06:34] <bobbyk2015> is anyone here
[06:35] <cfhowlett> !ask | bobbyk2015,
[06:36] <bobbyk2015> cool thanksfor your reply.
[22:48] <emma> please help
|
ubuntu-chat
|
2024-05-13T22:11:16.046931
| 2015-04-07T00:00:00 |
{
"license": "Public Domain",
"authors": [
"bobbyk2015",
"cfhowlett",
"emma",
"isfelstudio-user"
],
"url": "https://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2015/04/07/%23ubuntustudio.txt",
"channel": "#ubuntustudio"
}
|
2015-04-07-#ubuntu-tw
|
[07:40] <kohaner> 没人？
|
ubuntu-chat
|
2024-05-13T22:11:16.048235
| 2015-04-07T00:00:00 |
{
"license": "Public Domain",
"authors": [
"kohaner"
],
"url": "https://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2015/04/07/%23ubuntu-tw.txt",
"channel": "#ubuntu-tw"
}
|
2015-04-07-#ubuntu-us-pa
|
[09:21] <JonathanD> Morning.
[09:25] <rmg51> Morning
[09:47] <JonathanD> Hey rmg51
[10:03] <rmg51> o/
[10:16] <jackson> o/
[10:49] <JonathanD> Hows it going.
[11:34] <lazyPower> o/
[15:06] <jackson> ok JonathanD
[15:08] <JonathanD> Hey jackson
|
ubuntu-chat
|
2024-05-13T22:11:16.049018
| 2015-04-07T00:00:00 |
{
"license": "Public Domain",
"authors": [
"JonathanD",
"jackson",
"lazyPower",
"rmg51"
],
"url": "https://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2015/04/07/%23ubuntu-us-pa.txt",
"channel": "#ubuntu-us-pa"
}
|
2015-04-07-#ubuntu-news
|
[01:36] <pleia2> unfortunately she didn't tell us what exactly to change it to :( I'll email
[01:39] * pleia2 gets to UWN releasing
[02:08] <pleia2> Welcome to the Ubuntu Weekly Newsletter, Issue 411 for the week March 30 - April 5 , 2015 https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuWeeklyNewsletter/Issue411
[02:10] <ahoneybun> pleia2: any news about the Board positions?
[02:10] <pleia2> ahoneybun: not yet, the board just got the list to the CC this morning, so we'll review it this week
[02:13] <ahoneybun> cool
[02:13] <ahoneybun> thanks for the info
[02:14] <pleia2> sure
|
ubuntu-chat
|
2024-05-13T22:11:16.051332
| 2015-04-07T00:00:00 |
{
"license": "Public Domain",
"authors": [
"ahoneybun",
"pleia2"
],
"url": "https://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2015/04/07/%23ubuntu-news.txt",
"channel": "#ubuntu-news"
}
|
2015-04-07-#ubuntu-gr
|
None
|
ubuntu-chat
|
2024-05-13T22:11:16.058716
| 2015-04-07T00:00:00 |
{
"license": "Public Domain",
"authors": [],
"url": "https://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2015/04/07/%23ubuntu-gr.txt",
"channel": "#ubuntu-gr"
}
|
2015-04-07-#ubuntu-community-team
|
[14:11] <dpm> popey, mhall119, who is doing the Q&A today? I've not been in the last two, so I'll be on it
[14:11] <popey> I was on the last two.. soo... :)
[14:28] <mhall119> I think I was on the last one
[14:28] <mhall119> dpm: I'll go on with you, since the rest of our team are slackers
[14:28] <elfy> good day people
[14:28] <mhall119> morning elfy
[14:29] <dpm> lol
[14:29] <dpm> thanks mhall119
[14:29] <dpm> hi elfy
[14:29] <dpm> setting up the hangout now
[14:29] <dpm> (for later)
[14:30] <mhall119> dpm: we have our call now, right?
[14:30] <dpm> mhall119, yeah
[14:31] <dpm> mhall119, let me post on the social networks and join the call, I'll be 1 min
[15:15] <dpm> mhall119, ok, hangout set up and uoa page updated for later
[15:30] * mhall119 prepared adequate caffiene
[15:58] <dpm> popey, any core apps updates you'd want us to highlight?
[15:59] <popey> 1. music app was updated in the store yesterday with some bug fixes in
[15:59] <popey> 2. reminders was bumped by QA due to a couple of crashes and UI bugs (which is good because it shows our QA process works) :)
[16:00] <popey> 4. Calculator struggling with one UI issue and once done we'll submit to QA
[16:00] <popey> 3. Docviewer full screen viewing of PDFs (i.e. top toolbar hidden, indicator shown) landed in trunk, will update in the store a bit later.
[16:00] <popey> that's it for now.
[16:01] <czajkowski> KAPMAN is my new favourite game in the software center
[16:01] <czajkowski> did not know it existed!!!
[16:01] <czajkowski> I know it's not an app app but just felt like sharing :)
[17:13] <mhall119> czajkowski: in the phone store or desktop store?
[17:15] <czajkowski> desktop store
[17:15] <czajkowski> not had a chance to properly play with new phone as need curent phone for working apps for work
[17:15] <czajkowski> :/
[17:16] <czajkowski> also need to get a new sim card so I can use it while not unplugging curren phone from network as need it for calls
[17:16] <czajkowski> may take the Ubuntu phone to NYC for mobile week :D
[17:28] <dpm> thanks popey, we mentioned the updates at the Q&A
[17:57] <PabloRubianes> mhall119: have a minute for a PM?
[17:59] <mhall119> PabloRubianes: you can PM me any time, no need to ask :)
|
ubuntu-chat
|
2024-05-13T22:11:16.062876
| 2015-04-07T00:00:00 |
{
"license": "Public Domain",
"authors": [
"PabloRubianes",
"czajkowski",
"dpm",
"elfy",
"mhall119",
"popey"
],
"url": "https://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2015/04/07/%23ubuntu-community-team.txt",
"channel": "#ubuntu-community-team"
}
|
2015-04-07-#ubuntu-hr
|
[04:38] <Vlado9A3CY> dobro jutro
[05:22] <Mmike> Jirzy danek!
[05:54] <SilverSpace> jutarnji
[06:01] <BotaniCar> Jutro, momcine
[06:02] <SilverSpace> BotaniCar: oj
[06:03] <SilverSpace> >(
[06:03] <SilverSpace> :)
[06:03] <SilverSpace> ne kuzim
[06:03] <vileni> jutar
[06:04] <SilverSpace> a kuzim super+space
[06:09] <SilverSpace> BotaniCar: ee eto upogonio https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/966116/radeon11.png
[06:52] <ivoks> eto
[06:52] <ivoks> da se i ja detoksiciram
[06:52] <ivoks> pojeo sam vruci burek koji je spalio sve toksine
[06:55] <jelly> detoksikacija svinjskom mascu
[06:56] <jelly> SilverSpace: aj ga drzi jedno mjesec dana ukljucenog da vidimo jesu ti radeoni stabilni na linuxu :-)
[06:59] <SilverSpace> jelly: ke ?
[07:00] <nicols> ojla!
[07:00] <jelly> SilverSpace: stroj sa radeon gpu
[07:00] <nicols> eto i mene, ja se detoksam sa domaćicama :)
[07:01] <SilverSpace> jelly: zasto ne bi bio vivid radi :)
[07:01] * nicols ima radeon: 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD/ATI] Mars [Radeon HD 8730M]
[07:02] <nicols> jel izašao 15.04?
[07:02] <SilverSpace> nicols: nije jos
[07:03] <SilverSpace> nicols: https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/966116/radeon11.png
[07:03] <nicols> aaaaa ... 23.04.
[07:03] <jelly> SilverSpace: zato sto su svi driveri za linux nepouzdani, a iznimke rijetke
[07:03] <nicols> kakav ti je to ružan prozor?
[07:03] <jelly> gpu* driveri
[07:04] <SilverSpace> jelly: pa i nije vise bas tak
[07:04] <SilverSpace> nicols: kaj ruzan :)
[07:04] <jelly> SilverSpace: to cu ti uzeti u obzir nakon sto budes imao mjesec dana uptime bez glitcheva ili smrzavanja
[07:14] <SilverSpace> jelly: a cuj s obzirom da je ovo relativno nova platforma am1 ne bi me nista cudilo
[07:15] <SilverSpace> ne mogu natjerati sensors da mi pokaze power1: N/A (crit = 25.00 W)
[07:26] <nicols> SilverSpace: pa izgleda previše vindozerski
[07:28] <nicols> kak da saznam kaj je ovo: temp6: +114.0°C (crit = +128.0°C)
[07:39] <SilverSpace> nicols: ja znam /dev/sda: takeMS SSD UTX-2200 60GB : 128°C
[07:39] <SilverSpace> :)
[07:49] <nicols> ssd?
[07:50] <nicols> ja imam 30GB msata u laptopu, možda je to?
[08:16] <SilverSpace> The Walking Dead kod nas preveden kao Živi mrtvaci a srpski Okružen mrtvima
[08:33] <BotaniCar> SilverSpace: oklen ti para za R3, sine ? :D
[08:33] <BotaniCar> Nego, aplikacijsko ili softversko rjesenje ; kak se kaze ? :D
[08:37] <Mmike> nicols: to ti je burek-pekac, vish da je 114 Cova :)
[08:41] <Vlado9A3CY> bon žur
[08:43] <SilverSpace> BotaniCar: lol provuko karticu :)
[08:44] <SilverSpace> cpu ram
[08:44] <SilverSpace> upogonio onu plocu konacno
[08:45] <SilverSpace> i toplo preporucam tko zeli stedljivi proc fakat sam zadovoljan
[10:17] <SilverSpace> zatvorio kuciste temperatura se digla samo za 1°
[10:18] <SilverSpace> cak sena cpu i spustila
[10:19] <SilverSpace> ali se ventilator na cpu brze vrti
[10:22] <weshmashian> mornin'
[10:30] <BotaniCar> SilverSpace: to je logicno, zatvaranjem kucista si stvorio zracni tunel , za sto je dizajnom i predvidjeno. ventilator nek' umre u mukama, ima da radi svoj posao :D
[10:31] <Mmike> weshmashian: kaj kaj kaj kaj
[10:35] <BotaniCar> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8xxkLkbzD34
[10:35] <datase> YouTube: KAWASAKI 3P - Kaj kaj kaj - 0:02:55 - 82,540 views - 206 likes / 14 dislikes
[10:35] <BotaniCar> Kaj Kaj Kaj hoćeš batina?
[10:43] <SilverSpace> BotaniCar: :)
[10:43] <obruT> jel netko mozda stavljao "zadnji" openwrt na siemens sx 763 ?
[10:43] <SilverSpace> obruT: ne
[10:44] <SilverSpace> ja bi morao na tplink
[10:44] <obruT> htio bih izbjeci stavljanje imagea sa http://sx76x-openwrt-danube.googlecode.com
[10:44] <obruT> em je neki iz 2012-te, em je pitanje cega sve ima unutra :P
[10:45] <SilverSpace> crko mi transmission na njemu i ne kuzim zasto ne radi
[10:46] <Mmike> obruT: moderan svijet koristi dd-wrt :)
[10:46] <Mmike> ili ono kaj je vileni rekao
[10:46] <Mmike> moram rebootat znc stroj
[10:46] <Mmike> brb
[10:47] <BotaniCar> DI JE VIGOUR !!! Mmike's tab needs him :)
[10:48] <BotaniCar> mozda najbesmisleniji part msg ikad, bra'o mmike !
[10:50] <Mmike> beh
[10:51] <SilverSpace> obruT: upogonio sam onaj stedljivi amd am1 5350
[10:51] <weshmashian> Mmike: a?
[10:51] <SilverSpace> obruT: i mogu ti reci prava pila
[10:51] <Mmike> weshmashian: nova deca na pomolu? :)
[10:52] <weshmashian> Mmike: jedno!
[10:52] <BotaniCar> Meni je rekao da je ipak samo jedno ! :)
[10:52] <BotaniCar> Al, kaj on zna :)
[10:52] <weshmashian> ae
[10:52] <Mmike> weshmashian: tu neki pricali da 2 dolaze :D
[10:52] <weshmashian> ja sam svoje obavio, inkubacija je u tijeku
[10:52] <BotaniCar> lawl
[10:52] <weshmashian> Mmike: je, zena to stavila za prvi april :)
[10:52] <Mmike> weshmashian: kol'ko vec se zna, kak ce se zvat, ocel' git ili bzr,...? :)
[10:52] <Mmike> weshmashian: lol :)
[10:53] <obruT> Mmike: za ovo sto meni treba bi mi openwrt bio bolji... ddwrt imam doma na istom routeru
[10:53] <weshmashian> Mmike: ETA je 9. mj, za ostalo treba jos R&D proc :)
[10:53] <Mmike> weshmashian: o, pa to vec fino!
[10:53] <Mmike> weshmashian: jel' dite ili sin? :)
[10:54] <weshmashian> lol
[10:54] <weshmashian> Mmike: neznamo jos :)
[10:56] <Mmike> pa kak?
[10:56] <Mmike> necete znat, ili?
[10:56] <Mmike> aha
[10:56] <Mmike> glup sam
[10:56] <Mmike> ignore me :0
[10:57] <martinovkacity> zna li netko kraticu za hrvatski layout tipkovnice, stavio bi nes ovog tipa setxkbmap -option grp:alt_shift_toggle us, hrvatski-layout
[10:57] <weshmashian> pa ocemo znat, ima vremena da se sazna
[10:57] <martinovkacity> hvala :)
[10:57] <weshmashian> recimo, frendici su 8mj govorili da ima curicu da bi 3 tjedna prije poroda ispalo da je decko :)
[10:58] <weshmashian> martinovkacity: ovo ja koristim recimo: /usr/bin/setxkbmap -option "grp:shift_caps_toggle,caps:escape" -layout "us,hr" -variant "euro,"
[10:59] <martinovkacity> hr nisam ni probao, hvala puno!
[10:59] <Mmike> setxkbsta/
[10:59] <Mmike> ?
[10:59] <Mmike> kaj vi ne kliknete?
[11:00] <martinovkacity> a ovo mi je na laptopu i cesto hocu mjenjati pa mi je ovo bolje
[11:01] <weshmashian> Mmike: jok
[11:01] <weshmashian> Mmike: ovak mi lakse i u konzoli i pod wm-om mijenjat layout
[11:02] <weshmashian> Mmike: a i lakse mi prebacit jednu lajnu nekam nego kliketat da podesim kak ocu :)
[11:05] <obruT> Mmike: a jesi ti stavljao ddwrt na doticni kad vec spominjes ?
[11:06] <Mmike> obruT: jok, ja ti doma linksysa imam
[11:06] <Mmike> al' cu morat sad slozit za neke apartmane
[11:06] <Mmike> opce neznam kak bi sta bi
[11:06] <Mmike> kuca ima 4 apartmana ili 12 soba
[11:06] <Mmike> teorecki moze 12 ljudi razlicitih bit unutra
[11:06] <Mmike> i onda bi morao imat 12 'accounta' na wifiju
[11:10] <vileni> Mmike: mikrotik :)
[11:12] <BotaniCar> zake mikrotik ? Ima onih "hotelskih" rjesenja koja su neovisna o hardveru. Nisam to fanj dugo gledao
[11:13] <Mmike> vileni: ma, softver
[11:14] <vileni> Mmike: pa slozis radius neki? ja bas gledam packetfence, razmisljam da isprobam
[11:14] <vileni> ali svejedno, mikrotik :)
[11:15] <vileni> ili ako imas vise para, unifi
[11:19] <Mmike> vileni: oni svi i dalje dijelie isti wifi pwd?
[11:19] <Mmike> tj, nema wifi pwda, jelda?
[11:21] <vileni> Mmike: pa slozis kako zelis, mozes kreirati acc na radius serveru i onda je dostupan na svim uredjajima
[11:22] <Mmike> pa ne znam kako zelim :)
[11:22] <Mmike> zato pitam za sugestije :)
[11:26] <vileni> za accounte je lagano, samo gledam sad jel ima nesto jednostavno za isprintati user/pass
[11:36] <Mmike> vileni: a, kak to radi? nemam wifi encryption nikaki, nego AP radi filtering po mac adresi adaptera?
[11:39] <vileni> Mmike: podesis da encryption bude wpa2 enterprise, namjestis podatke za radius server
[11:40] <vileni> i to je manje vise to
[11:40] <vileni> useri se normalno ulogiravaju
[11:41] <vileni> imas i kombinacije da kazes koliko dugo moze biti aktivan acc, koliko prometa potrositi, ograniciti brzinu itd
[11:41] <Mmike> vileni: a korisnik onda unosi user/pass u svom wifi drekecu na laptopu/mobitelu?
[11:41] <vileni> Mmike: da
[11:41] <Mmike> zanimljivo
[11:42] <vileni> mozes staviti i captive portal sa uputama kako doci do user/pass
[11:42] <Mmike> vileni: i to mikrotik ima na sebi, ili?
[11:42] <vileni> Mmike: vecinu, ali za laksu organizaciju toga trebas neki radius server
[11:43] <vileni> Mmike: recimo ovo http://www.packetfence.org/about/overview.html
[11:43] <Mmike> me
[11:43] <Mmike> h
[11:43] <Mmike> znaci da mi treba jos nekvi uredjaj tamo...
[11:44] <vileni> Mmike: ne nuzno :)
[11:44] <vileni> radius ti moze biti i neki vps
[11:44] <Mmike> o
[11:44] <Mmike> mudro! :)
[11:45] <vileni> unifi recimo ima cijeli kontroler tako, da i ap-ovi skidaju sami konfiguraciju
[11:46] <martinovkacity> jel postoji nekakva usluga koja pruza izlaz na internet ali sa vlastitim serverom
[11:46] <martinovkacity> tj sa vlastitim hardverom
[11:46] <Mmike> vileni: unifi?
[11:46] <vileni> martinovkacity: mislis kao adsl ali da ne koristis njihov router?
[11:47] <vileni> Mmike: https://www.ubnt.com/unifi/unifi-ap/
[11:48] <martinovkacity> ne bas :) mislim kao webhosting ali da je moj hardver, jer ovi mali paketi hostinga ti ne dozvoljavaju nista, nemogu se ni na bazu sa remote spojit ...
[11:48] <vileni> martinovkacity: a to, ima, dedicated server
[11:48] <vileni> ~50$ mjesecno navise koliko sam upoznat
[11:49] <vileni> jeftinije ti je traziti vps za pocetak :)
[11:50] <martinovkacity> a imam, 125kn je to, ali mogucnosti su stvarno ogranicene
[11:50] <martinovkacity> 125kn godisnje
[11:52] <martinovkacity> htio bi da mogu vlastite skripte na serveru koristit, remote pristup bazi, konfigurirat dns itd.
[11:53] <martinovkacity> naravno domenu bi placao
[11:57] <BotaniCar> AAAAAAAHHHHH! Hi Men jaše ružičastog jednoroga, oko njega lebdi svita pegaza i svi vuku lajne stoprocentnog koksa. Ivan Bauer ordinira u kostimu Tinki Vinkija, Milić Vukašinović i Dalaj Lama prde u trombon Kojota iz Ajzbrna # http://www.tarzanija.com/pronadi-mi-g-tacku/
[12:37] <ivoks> heh
[12:37] <ivoks> uskrsnji utorak
[12:37] <ivoks> dan kad pol europe riga
[12:38] <BotaniCar> a pola cisti za njima :)
[12:41] <SilverSpace> negdje sm imao ovaj usb adapter i sad ga ne bi naso pih http://is.gd/E5Y7rm
[12:44] <Mmike> BotaniCar: onaj lik je car
[12:45] <Mmike> BotaniCar: da ga citiram: "Pičja ceđ"
[12:45] <Mmike> pa jebote :)))))))))))
[12:45] <BotaniCar> Da, car carski.
[12:45] <Mmike> http://www.tarzanija.com/sveta-vodica-kad-vulva-ejakulira/
[12:45] <Mmike> (NSFW!)
[12:48] <BotaniCar> zatrudnio sam od citanja URLa :)
[12:49] <Mmike> otupio sam od bzra
[12:50] <Mmike> sad sam umjesto 'git checkout' skopirao sve u drugi dir
[12:51] <BotaniCar> ne bzr .. rbz ... ne BRZAJ ! :)
[12:51] <SilverSpace> http://is.gd/j0wkhi
[12:52] <Mmike> e, rba
[12:52] <Mmike> nemoj da ih spominjes
[12:52] <Mmike> to je tipican primjer hvatske budale
[12:53] <Mmike> koji i dalje koristi debilnu uslugu i sere kak nevalja
[12:53] <Mmike> umjesto da ju promijeni
[12:53] <BotaniCar> "to" je tko ? :D
[12:54] <Mmike> :P
[13:07] <SilverSpace> ne bi naso ni za zivu glavu kak sam ja to dobro pospremio
[13:07] <BotaniCar> Silver: imam ja doma neke nadrke koji s jedne strane imaju zenski USB,a s druge ~5pinski konektor za maticnu, trebas ?
[13:08] <BotaniCar> S tim da moji imaju USB stranu u obliku backplane bracketa za PC kuciste
[13:09] <SilverSpace> BotaniCar: trebao bi jedan da stavim BT u kuciste tak da mi ne zauzima usb
[13:10] <SilverSpace> ne da mi se lemiti na usb bt dongle
[13:13] <SilverSpace> BotaniCar: ne trebam naso :)
[13:16] <BotaniCar> ToTeJaGepitn :)
[13:22] <ivoks> Mmike: aj dosta chatanja i odi pomoci edu
[13:26] <vileni> hm, jel ima tko problema sa google servisima?
[13:27] <BotaniCar> gmail mi se ucitava, drugo bas i ne trosim
[13:37] <vileni> proradilo
[13:40] <SilverSpace> https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/966116/15%3A38%3A36.png
[13:53] <ivoks> sto je ovdje smijesno, a sto tragicno?
[13:53] <ivoks> Oko 500 ZET-ovih mehaničara još nije naučilo servisirati nove niskopodne tramvaje koji su od Končara kupljeni između 2005. i 2010.
[13:54] <ivoks> meni je smijesno da jos ne znaju popravljati tramvaje
[13:54] <ivoks> a tragicno je da ih je 500, vise nego tramvaja
[13:55] <ivoks> tolko tehnicara nema ni lufthansa
[13:56] <BotaniCar> Kad lufthansa nije Bandiceva prcija , da imaju Mileta, imali bi i tehnicare
[13:58] <jelly> jel ima neko mozda napajanje za ibm x-series x3550 ili slicno
[13:58] <ivoks> ha
[13:58] <ivoks> x3550
[13:59] <ivoks> product: IBM System x3200 -[4363K1G]-
[13:59] <ivoks> tja, sorry
[13:59] <jelly> zvuci slicno
[13:59] <ivoks> 15:59 -!- mirka [[email protected]] has quit [Quit: Leaving]
[13:59] <ivoks> minutu ranije
[14:00] <ivoks> joj joj
[14:00] <ivoks> jelly: al nemam viska :/
[14:00] <jelly> 1U server
[14:00] <ivoks> x3200 je tower
[14:00] <jelly> iz... 2009-ish
[14:00] <ivoks> da
[14:01] <ivoks> mislim da je i stariji
[14:01] <jelly> ima cijeli server na njuskalu za 900kn, valjda ce mu radit napajanje :-)
[14:02] <ivoks> da?
[14:02] <ivoks> mogao bi ga kupiti za dijelove
[14:02] <jelly> ne mogu, samo mi napajanje odgovara
[14:03] <jelly> (imam super-duper enterprajz proizvod baziran na x3550)
[14:03] <ivoks> ocito
[14:03] <ivoks> je super duper
[14:03] <ivoks> mogao bi ja doma...
[14:04] <jelly> (SAN Volume Control, stari nodovi koje smo izvadili iz skladista)
[14:06] <ivoks> mislim da microsoft nece open sourcat windows
[14:06] <ivoks> ali mogao bi kupiti nekog linux vendora
[14:07] <jelly> npr. canonical? :-)
[14:07] <ivoks> tko zna
[14:07] <ivoks> ne znam koliko zaradjuju na azuru
[14:07] <ivoks> ali 20% te zarade otpada na linux
[14:07] <jelly> nek kupe RH i razbucaju ih malo
[14:08] <ivoks> a to je velikom vecinom ubuntu
[14:25] <ivoks> stavio sam si ovaj ambient noise
[14:25] <ivoks> i nazove lik
[14:25] <ivoks> i veli 'o, ti si u nekom krasnom vrtu'
[14:25] <ivoks> skroz zaboravio da imam ptice u pozadini
[14:30] <SilverSpace> ee to http://i.ebayimg.com/00/s/OTAwWDkwMA==/z/8YoAAOSw~uhUpEHT/$_57.JPG
[14:37] <Mmike> ivoks, ha?
[14:37] <Mmike> ivoks, oko ceg?
[14:38] <Mmike> ivoks, kaki ambient noiz?
[14:39] <Mmike> moram si novi stolac kupit, ovaj ikejin nije dobar za vise od 3-4 sata sjedenja dnevno
[15:01] <Mmike> DA NAM ZIVI ZIVI RAD
[15:02] <jelly> mda, za stolac treba dati bar koliko za biciklu
[15:03] <Mmike> jelly, so they say
[15:03] <Mmike> imas neku preporuku?
[15:03] <jelly> ne, ja isto moram kupit
[15:04] <jelly> kupio neki 900kn u jisku, i to je drzalo 12 mjeseci, sad je neudoban
[15:06] <Mmike> da
[15:06] <Mmike> ovaj je bio ok isto pol godine
[15:06] <Mmike> mozda malo vise
[15:06] <Mmike> lazem, godinu dana :L)
[15:06] <Mmike> narucit cu s jubitoa steeleseries
[15:06] <Mmike> ili kak se vec zove
[15:06] <Mmike> erm, s ebaja
[15:15] <weshmashian> Mmike: kojoju?
[15:15] <ivoks> koji k ovim englezima
[15:15] <ivoks> grad se zove Nürnberg
[15:16] <ivoks> shvatio bi da ga nazovu neernberg
[15:16] <ivoks> ili nuernberg
[15:16] <ivoks> ali cemu ga zvati nuermberg?
[15:16] <ivoks> wtf sa m?
[15:17] <Mmike> da
[15:17] <ivoks> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nuremberg#Demographics
[15:17] <ivoks> wtf
[15:17] <Mmike> ja napisem: nuernberg
[15:17] <ivoks> :D
[15:17] <Mmike> i vele mi - kaj ti pises, to je krvo :)
[15:17] <Mmike> reko, nemam umlaut za u na tastaturi, pa se to pise ue
[15:17] <ivoks> 2013. najvise je stranaca iz - jugoslavije
[15:17] <Mmike> vele, ne :)
[15:18] <Mmike> ivoks, ima tamo frend od staraca jebacki restoran - sarajevo :) lik je bogatstsvo zaradio na njemu
[15:18] <ivoks> ah, glup
[15:18] <ivoks> ignore me
[15:18] <Mmike> alik opce nezna kuvat :)
[15:18] <Mmike> weshmashian, cek
[15:18] <ivoks> ima i u bonnu jedan, kroatish
[15:18] <ivoks> Mmike: ides u N?
[15:20] <Mmike> ivoks, yup
[15:29] <weshmashian> i tak, dobio kolega novi laptop i na njemu se vrti Linpus Linux :)
[15:33] <jelly> mora bit da je Acer
[15:44] <SilverSpace> buhaha
[15:58] <Mmike> weshmashian, jel' dobar laptop? :)
[15:59] <ivoks> razmisljam da si kupim novu radnu stanicu
[15:59] <ivoks> i3 nije dosta
[16:00] <Mmike> ivoks, ma kak? :) pa kaj ne radis ti remotely sve? :)
[16:00] * Mmike ima i7 i 32 gige rama i malo mu je
[16:00] <ivoks> pa radim
[16:00] <Mmike> i gleda vec kak bi prije reda kupio neki hexacore
[16:00] <ivoks> al jebeni google docs pojede memoriju
[16:01] <ivoks> a i treba mi nova graficka za igre
[16:02] <ivoks> mozda da si sam slozim nes
[16:02] <Mmike> imam ti ja R9 280X, Vapor-X, OC, TRI-pimpek
[16:02] <Mmike> ne trosi nist
[16:02] <Mmike> tiha
[16:02] <Mmike> a fina
[16:02] <Mmike> imam i garanciju :)
[16:03] <ivoks> 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: NVIDIA Corporation GF119 [GeForce GT 520] (rev a1)
[16:03] <ivoks> R9 je ati?
[16:03] <ivoks> ati ima sugave drivere, kaj ne?
[16:03] <Mmike> svi imaju sugave drivere
[16:03] <Mmike> iako ovi novi atijevi nisu losi
[16:03] <Mmike> rfactor isto radi ok
[16:03] <Mmike> al' ne koristim ih svakodnevno, pa nemam pojma
[16:03] <Mmike> jelly ce ih vise moc shrackat :)
[16:03] <ivoks> vendor: LENOVO
[16:03] <ivoks> date: 10/19/2012
[16:03] <ivoks> nije ni 3 godine star stroj
[16:04] <ivoks> 16 giga rama
[16:04] <ivoks> i3-2130
[16:04] <Mmike> pa sam upikni drugi proc i vise rama unutra
[16:04] <Mmike> idem sastancit
[16:04] <ivoks> ma u biti, komp opce nije los
[16:04] <ivoks> jos dvije godine ce izdurati
[16:19] <obruT> fakat imam stare krame
[16:20] <obruT> treba mi sad na brzaka neki komp za nesto isprobat, laptop ostavio na poslu, ove kucne workstatione, server i htpc ne bih dirao... posegnem za prvim u ormaru, a ovaj ni usb port nema :P
[16:21] <SilverSpace> :)
[16:26] <SilverSpace> http://www.boostnetwork.com/database/automodelphotos/files/F1_China_2013_Paddock_Girls_3824737.jpg
[16:27] <SilverSpace> kineskinje
[16:27] <obruT> aj, bar nesto zanimljivo ote formule :)
[16:29] <SilverSpace> obruT: jel sarafis stroj :)
[16:30] <obruT> evo iskopo ps2 tastaturu :)
[16:30] <obruT> sad trazim kablove za napajanje
[16:34] <obruT> i naravno, uvijek ista prica
[16:35] <obruT> imam milion tih kabela, onak, spoticem se o njih, ispadaju iz ladica i ormara... stalno mislim kako cu ih pobacati... i eto, sad kad mi treba, ne mogu nac
[16:35] <obruT> bitno da sam nasao 4 ps2 tipkovnice i 4 dvd drivea gje nisam ocekivao
[16:35] <SilverSpace> lol i ja se danas ubio trazeci
[16:36] <obruT> moram se preselit u kucu, jebo ovo u stanu
[16:36] <SilverSpace> i jedan veliki tavan
[16:37] <obruT> biti ce dovoljna jedna soba 4x5 metara samo za kompove i dijelove
[16:39] <SilverSpace> na kraju naso usb kabel privremeno ok ali sam darucio sa ebay drugi
[17:15] <obruT> cini mi se da sam upravo skurio maticnu na toj kanti
[17:27] <jelly> *hrack*
[17:28] <jelly> Mmike: ma dobio sam informaciju da ati driveri sad rade ok iz neke ruke, pa pokusavam nagovoriti bilo koga tko to zapravo koristi na linuxima da potvrdi
[17:29] <jelly> al ne ono "instalirao sam i radi super" nego "koristim s mjesecima uptimea i svaki dan suspend/resume i radi super"
[17:29] <weshmashian> jelly: koji ati driveri?
[17:30] <jelly> weshmashian: bilo koji
[17:30] <weshmashian> jelly: ja trosim opnsors ati drajvr mjesecima sa dnevnim suspend/resume i nemam problema
[17:30] <weshmashian> fglrx me jebe jer ne zeli trosit 3 displeja istovremeno
[17:31] <jelly> da, mene odusevila ova nvidia koju sad imam i koja radi 3 istovremeno
[17:32] <weshmashian> mislim, i fglrx isto super radi kad se ocu igrat :)
[18:23] <SilverSpace> ati radi tko plati
[18:24] <obruT> kreten, provjerio sha256 imagea nakon sto ga sprzio... naravno da ne odgovara :P
[18:28] <Mmike> obruT, to ti nema veze, mozda ce raditi :) D
[18:29] <obruT> radit oce, samo ce vjerojatno unutra bit 65 miliona trojanaca :P
[19:01] <SilverSpace> syntax error: unexpected "("
[19:01] <SilverSpace> kad da iz terminala obrisem kad u imenu ima (
[19:03] <SilverSpace> tab ne radi
[19:04] <SilverSpace> kad rucno upisem izbaci ovo gore
[19:05] <SilverSpace> jebo onog tko zagrade stavlja u imena datotweke
[19:08] <SilverSpace> ah naso :) \(1934\)
[19:11] <nicols> hop!
[19:13] <Mmike> SilverSpace, nc nc
[19:13] <Mmike> nicols, djesi
[19:14] <SilverSpace> Mmike: memam nc na routeru :)
[19:14] <SilverSpace> rijesio google :)
[19:17] <SilverSpace> fakat toplo preporucam kome treba stedljivi procesor amd am1 5350
[19:19] <Mmike> to je am1 socket?
[19:19] <SilverSpace> da
[19:23] <SilverSpace> AMD Athlon(tm) 5350 APU with Radeon(tm) R3
[19:23] <SilverSpace> Radeon HD 8400 / R3 Series
[19:23] <SilverSpace> sve u procu
[19:40] <obruT> netbsd se fakat veselo vrti na ovoj staroj kanti
[19:47] <obruT> SilverSpace: koliko ti zdere cijela konfa ?
[19:47] <obruT> struje, je li...
[19:48] <obruT> meni ova stedljiva cijela sa svim i sa diskom zdere 25-29
[19:50] <obruTbsd> hmm
[19:50] <obruTbsd> radi i irrsi na kanti :)
[19:59] <SilverSpace> obruT: nemam pojma proc je 25W max
[19:59] <SilverSpace> disk i ventilator
[19:59] <SilverSpace> ssd
[20:00] <SilverSpace> ploca ne vuce nest
[20:02] <SilverSpace> http://www.asrock.com/mb/sticker/AM1-SaveEnergy-AM1H-ITX.jpg
[20:03] <Mmike> http://www.businessinsider.com/openstack-startup-nebula-goes-out-of-business-2015-4
[20:06] <SilverSpace> 1ram 1hdd treba napajanje od 41W
[20:10] <SilverSpace> obruT: jebi ga ne radi mi sensor power1: N/A (crit = 25.00 W)
[20:12] <Mmike> tebi ne radi sensor power
[20:12] <Mmike> a meni se juju leadership election raspada
[20:12] <Mmike> doduse, brijem da nesh krivo radim :)
[20:14] <SilverSpace> Mmike: juju te ne slusa
[20:28] <SilverSpace> ln
|
ubuntu-chat
|
2024-05-13T22:11:16.079347
| 2015-04-07T00:00:00 |
{
"license": "Public Domain",
"authors": [
"BotaniCar",
"Mmike",
"SilverSpace",
"Vlado9A3CY",
"datase",
"ivoks",
"jelly",
"martinovkacity",
"nicols",
"obruT",
"obruTbsd",
"vileni",
"weshmashian"
],
"url": "https://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2015/04/07/%23ubuntu-hr.txt",
"channel": "#ubuntu-hr"
}
|
2015-04-07-#ubuntu-doc
|
[17:28] <dsmythies> doc team meeting over in #ubuntu-meeting-2 in two minutes.
[17:30] <dsmythies> #startmeeting Ubuntu Docs
[17:30] <meetingology> Meeting started Tue Apr 7 17:30:05 2015 UTC. The chair is dsmythies. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology.
[17:30] <meetingology> Available commands: action commands idea info link nick
[17:30] <dsmythies> #chair dsmythies GunnarHj
[17:30] <meetingology> Current chairs: GunnarHj dsmythies
[17:30] <dsmythies> Oppps wrong room...
[17:30] <dsmythies> #endmetting
[17:31] <dsmythies> #endmeeting
[17:31] <meetingology> Meeting ended Tue Apr 7 17:31:01 2015 UTC.
[17:31] <meetingology> Minutes: http://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/ubuntu-doc/2015/ubuntu-doc.2015-04-07-17.30.moin.txt
[17:32] <imnichol> dsmythies, what room is it in?
[17:33] <dsmythies> it is in commit_message_cover.txt
[17:33] <dsmythies> opps...
[17:33] <dsmythies> it is in #ubuntu-meeting-2
[18:32] <dsmythies> For those that attnded the Doc team meeting: Thanks.
[18:37] <dsmythies> GunnarHj: did you notcie new format on askubuntu.com? It is not as obvious to me now, just by glancing, when a question has no answer.
[18:37] <GunnarHj> dsmythies: I'm still in another meeting. Can we talk in a few minutes?
[18:52] <dsmythies> GunnarHj: I forgot you mentioned another meeting. It doesn't matter. I'll probably be off-line when you become free.
[18:56] <GunnarHj> dsmythies: We are done soon. I didn't quite understand what you mean. "When a question has no answer"?
[18:57] <pmatulis> the meeting time has been change in the wiki and the fridge calendar
[19:12] <dsmythies> pmatulis: I am so dense. For me it will be 9:00 in summer and 8:00 in winter. Not 8:00 and 7:00, as I was saying in the meeting.
[19:22] <pmatulis> dsmythies: alright, better!
[19:24] <GunnarHj> dsmythies: Now I'm ready to talk about Ask Ubuntu, if you like.
[19:27] <GunnarHj> dsmythies: To me it looks as if the second column states the number of answers, so 0 (zero) means that there is no answer yet.
[19:27] <pmatulis> guys, who maintains the installation guide?
[20:11] <dsmythies> pmatulis: Nobody maintains the installation guide. After much work, I had someone interested but they became overwhelmed and bailed. I've done some things, so that I could at least build it.
[20:12] <dsmythies> GannarHj: askubuntu.com used to be obvious as to unanswered via colour, that changed. The columns are the same as before, as far as I recall.
[20:21] <pmatulis> dsmythies: ok, we (the team) should try to improve the situation
[20:21] <GunnarHj> dsmythies: Right, the colored circle when unanswered is gone. But the zero is still pretty obvious, isn't it?
[22:48] <phillw> exit
[22:49] <gsilva> Hello all. Can someone give me a help in regard to LP + Bazaar + Git + stuff related?
[22:50] <knome> gsilva, ask your question and we'll see
[22:51] <gsilva> Well, as TL of wiki & docs of Lubuntu, I am trying to (finally) create the Lubuntu manual. To do this effectively, I think it is best to use the "code" tab in Launchpad
[22:51] <gsilva> However, I've never worked with these type of tools in my life and I'm not a power user
[22:52] <knome> setting up a repository isn't hard, but you have to set up a lot more than that
[22:52] <knome> eg. what markup are you using?
[22:53] <knome> how do you expect to ship the documentation?
[22:53] <gsilva> Exactly, I have no idea what you're talking about
[22:53] <gsilva> lol
[22:54] <knome> then maybe you should consider those questions before you start setting the tools up
[22:55] <gsilva> Well, I want to keep things as simple as possible
[22:55] <gsilva> I'm not a power user, so I have no idea what markups do I have available nor the possibilities to ship information
[22:56] <knome> well the other question is non-technical...
[22:56] <knome> do you want a package that is shipped with lubuntu, or will the documentation exist online? or both?
[22:57] <gsilva> exist online
[22:57] <knome> if it's a package, how do you want it to appear? readable by a web browser or something else?
[22:57] <knome> then more non-technical level questions: is there a reason why you wouldn't use a wiki?
[22:58] <knome> do you want to enforce the formatting, or can it be more free-formatted?
[22:58] <knome> who would contribute to the documentation: anybody (including users) or only team members?
[22:59] <gsilva> Because a manual looks way much prettier and decent.
[22:59] <gsilva> Enforce formatting
[22:59] <gsilva> Team members
[23:00] <knome> practically there is no reason why a wiki couldn't look pretty and decent too, though..
[23:00] <knome> anyway, looks like you want a markup language that can be converted to html with stylesheets
[23:03] <gsilva> I see
[23:04] <gsilva> thanks for helping
[23:04] <gsilva> I'll try and see the best way
[23:04] <knome> you might want to see how xubuntu does it, using docbook
[23:05] <knome> we produce both a package (with files readable from a browser) and upload them online
[23:05] <knome> https://launchpad.net/xubuntu-docs for the source project
[23:05] <knome> http://docs.xubuntu.org/1410/ for what the output looks
[23:06] <gsilva> thanks
[23:06] <knome> np
|
ubuntu-chat
|
2024-05-13T22:11:16.087352
| 2015-04-07T00:00:00 |
{
"license": "Public Domain",
"authors": [
"GunnarHj",
"dsmythies",
"gsilva",
"imnichol",
"knome",
"meetingology",
"phillw",
"pmatulis"
],
"url": "https://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2015/04/07/%23ubuntu-doc.txt",
"channel": "#ubuntu-doc"
}
|
2015-04-07-#ubuntu-my
|
[01:57] <najmi> ping
[12:30] <najmi> mypapit:
[12:30] <mypapit> najmi, yo
[12:30] <mypapit> wtf
[12:34] <najmi> mypapit: idup lagi ko kat irc.
[12:35] <mypapit> ya
[12:35] <mypapit> mmg tiap mlm lepak sini
[12:48] <najmi> oo
[12:48] <najmi> ada projek apa skrg
[12:48] <najmi> grant?
[12:49] <najmi> channel local mana yg busy kat freenode?
[13:08] <excalibr> najmi, laporan trafik mengatakan channel lokal tiada yg sibuk di lebuhraya freenode
[13:08] <najmi> excalibr: lol
[16:46] <mypapit> hahahahaha'
|
ubuntu-chat
|
2024-05-13T22:11:16.089150
| 2015-04-07T00:00:00 |
{
"license": "Public Domain",
"authors": [
"excalibr",
"mypapit",
"najmi"
],
"url": "https://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2015/04/07/%23ubuntu-my.txt",
"channel": "#ubuntu-my"
}
|
2015-04-07-#ubuntu-discuss
|
[15:21] <CryMore> Hallo :D
|
ubuntu-chat
|
2024-05-13T22:11:16.089817
| 2015-04-07T00:00:00 |
{
"license": "Public Domain",
"authors": [
"CryMore"
],
"url": "https://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2015/04/07/%23ubuntu-discuss.txt",
"channel": "#ubuntu-discuss"
}
|
2015-04-07-#ubuntu
|
[00:00] <Hailwood> Actually, if I edit the mount options that only affects it for ubuntu right? i.e. it shouldn't screw up the windows boot
[00:01] <daftykins> Hailwood: yeah you could add a permanent read-only fstab mount
[00:06] <kamek> got a problem with a rtl8188ce wireless card using module rtl8192ce. phy0 is hardware blocked and I cannot get it unblocked. Working with an Xubuntu 14.04 Live CD.
[00:07] <kamek> wifi switch just toggles the hp-wifi on/off
[00:07] <daftykins> so this is bluetooth?
[00:08] <kamek> no, trying to get wifi working
[00:08] <daftykins> oh so this realtek is a second external adapter?
[00:09] <kamek> unless it is bluetooth and I'm doing something wrong... I toggle wifi on w/ Network Manager and nothing shows.
[00:09] <daftykins> phy0 sounds kinda... non-wifi'y, but i can't be 100%
[00:16] <kemmler> If I have a .deb that someone else created and is hosting on a custom repo, can I backport that without the .dsc or source files?
[00:16] <manuel> how do i change channels?
[00:17] <kemmler> or am I going to need to recreate the build for the target I need
[00:17] <daftykins> manuel: wifi channels of your network?
[00:17] <daftykins> or IRC... :P
[00:17] <k1l> manuel: /join #channel
[00:28] <kamek> hm... seems i missed something in a reboot... noticed hp-wifi is now soft blocked... and rfkill unblock all, wifi, and 1 doesn't seem to work.
[00:28] <daftykins> "and 1" ?
[00:28] <kamek> rfkill list shows 1: hp-wifi
[00:29] <daftykins> hrmm
[00:30] <daftykins> kamek: lshw -C network | pastebinit
[00:34] <Umeaboy> kamek: Do you have a physical button to enable the wifi?
[00:34] <Umeaboy> What brand of the laptop/PC?
[00:34] <daftykins> thats a hard block i thought
[00:35] <Umeaboy> Sometimes makers use tell the wifi to enable if you enable bluetooth as well.
[00:35] <Umeaboy> HP for instance.
[00:38] <kamek> sorry have to pass things over with a flash drive. sharing a wlan0 connection through eth0 on Arch is another adventure.
[00:38] <kamek> https://gist.githubusercontent.com/deathspawn/a6cd1d394cd3c592df1c/raw/95b80a6ed025bb0208c214c1ec00b07170780b36/gistfile1.txt
[00:39] <daftykins> hmm disabled
[00:39] <kamek> hp 2000 notebook pc
[00:39] <kamek> there's a wifi switch on the F12 key
[00:40] <kamek> hitting it only toggles the hardware block
[00:40] <kamek> still software blocked
[00:40] <rgb-one> kamek: any recent kernel upgrades?
[00:41] <daftykins> what does 'iwconfig' state about wlan0?
[00:41] <kamek> it's a live cd xubuntu-14.04.2-desktop-amd64.iso
[00:42] <kamek> trying to get it working before doing a fulll install, however i could install to another flash drive and mess with it
[00:42] <Umeaboy> kamek: Does it change status if you press it to change?
[00:43] <Umeaboy> Compare with rfkill list when you press it.
[00:43] <kamek> i said it toggles hardware blocked
[00:43] <kamek> *block
[00:43] <Umeaboy> OK.
[00:43] <kamek> soft block is unchanged
[00:43] <Umeaboy> Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmm.
[00:44] <Umeaboy> kamek: Could THIS be related to your problem perhaps? https://www.google.se/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=1&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=0CCMQFjAA&url=https%3A%2F%2Fanswers.launchpad.net%2Fubuntu%2F%2Bsource%2Fgnome-nettool%2F%2Bquestion%2F240591&ei=UygjVePGEYqSsgGSjoSIDg&usg=AFQjCNGziING6vg3rgbvwYYWuxWLrCXt_w&sig2=83Cq0KSZ8LbXyEiPElvswg&bvm=bv.89947451,d.bGg
[00:44] <daftykins> soft is a driver not being loaded or NM not being set to manage wifi networks
[00:48] <Umeaboy> Check your BIOS as well.
[00:48] <daftykins> that doesn't seem likely this far along
[00:49] <Umeaboy> Well, at least check it from bootup.
[00:49] <kamek> https://gist.githubusercontent.com/deathspawn/b0ccdff7ceac0a6d2cd0/raw/ebc0d932fb4e9499f62d4a8796990963359901d4/gistfile1.txt
[00:49] <lyndel4> guys whats the command to test 3d graphicss? to see if there will be erros?
[00:49] <cluelessperson> Hey guys, I've got a server that has a LOT of trouble resolving hosts, it seems to take forever
[00:49] <cluelessperson> Any ideas as to why?
[00:50] <kamek> that's the output from http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=13024222#post13024222
[00:50] <Umeaboy> lyndel4: You mean to benchmark?
[00:50] <lyndel4> yep
[00:50] <daftykins> cluelessperson: how is DNS configured? dnsmasq? /etc/resolv.conf hardcoded? /etc/network/interfaces hardcoded?
[00:50] <lyndel4> haha
[00:50] <cluelessperson> The resolution is so terrible that I can barely connect to any thing
[00:51] <cluelessperson> daftykins, hard coded in interfaces, because I need static ips
[00:51] <Umeaboy> Just download a 3D movie and play it with mplayer runned from terminal.
[00:51] <lyndel4> i did it before a guy here told me but i did not save the command
[00:51] <cluelessperson> daftykins, It's frozen at th emoment, (won't respond to cntrl+c) because I just tried to pastebinit for you
[00:51] <lyndel4> there is a command for it
[00:51] <lyndel4> u dont know it?
[00:51] <cluelessperson> waiting for it to error out and getting really pissed off
[00:52] <Umeaboy> lyndel4: Uuuuhm. Use up and down arrows in the terminal to see the history of given commands.
[00:52] <lyndel4> or maybe it was direct x but he told me to do it and i sow a 3d object it was really amazing tool
[00:52] <hkrrsx> cluelessperson: Are the web server the DNS server running off the same box ?
[00:52] <cluelessperson> hkrrsx, no, I'm not runnign a dns server, I don't think?
[00:52] <lyndel4> it wot be there i turned off the pc many times that would be lost by now lol
[00:53] <hkrrsx> cluelessperson: Would you please provide an example domain?
[00:53] <cluelessperson> hkrrsx, google.com
[00:53] <hkrrsx> cluelessperson: Ok, so the problem is your server resolving external hosts?
[00:53] <cluelessperson> hkrrsx, zachary@pine:/etc/network$ ping -c 1 google.com
[00:53] <cluelessperson> Waiting on this command to finish, it's frozen and not responding to Ctrl+C
[00:53] <cluelessperson> hkrrsx, yes
[00:53] <daftykins> cluelessperson: yes but static does not require DNS to be in interfaces :>
[00:53] <daftykins> cluelessperson: also what OS version?
[00:53] <cluelessperson> daftykins, well, it doesn't automatically resolve them
[00:54] <hkrrsx> cluelessperson: do you have console access or is this all over SSH ?
[00:54] <cluelessperson> daftykins, ubuntu server 14.04.02
[00:54] <CountryfiedLinux> howdy
[00:54] <cluelessperson> hkrrsx, yes
[00:54] <daftykins> 'auto resolve' ?
[00:54] <cluelessperson> console access
[00:54] <lyndel4> but basicaly playing 3d games in wine crashes but only at a point with lots of players its a mmo game plays fine but as soon as i tele to main city it crashes and wont open until i use windows login more to a spot with less players then it works on linux
[00:54] <cluelessperson> daftykins, like it would without static ips
[00:54] <daftykins> you mean auto discover DNS IPs?
[00:54] <hkrrsx> cluelessperson: Try Ctrl + z to background the stalled process
[00:55] <lyndel4> hk what the command u gave me again to benchmark 3d graphics
[00:55] <cluelessperson> hkrrsx, even connecting to cluelessperson.com seems really freaking slow.
[00:55] <daftykins> lyndel4: look through "history"
[00:56] <CountryfiedLinux> How do I turn off lid close settings on my laptop? I want to close it turning off my screen?
[00:56] <cluelessperson> hkrrsx, The server pings the router/gateway fine
[00:56] <nmz787> hi all, how do I install a serial mouse driver for a given device i.e. /dev/ttyUSB3
[00:56] <cluelessperson> CountryfiedLinux, google.
[00:56] <lyndel4> its not in history
[00:56] <CountryfiedLinux> cluelessperson, tried
[00:56] <daftykins> !google | cluelessperson
[00:56] <hkrrsx> cluelessperson: cluelessperson.com seems to be running fine and there's no network breakdown
[00:56] <kamek> https://gist.githubusercontent.com/deathspawn/b0ccdff7ceac0a6d2cd0/raw/ebc0d932fb4e9499f62d4a8796990963359901d4/gistfile1.txt anyone can diagnose?
[00:57] <daftykins> cluelessperson: tried with google DNS or openDNS?
[00:57] <cluelessperson> CountryfiedLinux, https://www.google.com/webhp?sourceid=chrome-instant&ion=1&espv=2&ie=UTF-8#q=ubuntu%20close%20lid%20action
[00:57] <nmz787> nvm reading some things on wiki page now
[00:57] <hkrrsx> cluelessperson: Were you able to get that stalled process stopped or moved to the background?
[00:58] <cluelessperson> hkrrsx, it timed out after a minute or two.
[00:58] <cluelessperson> daftykins, I have my isp'
[00:58] <hkrrsx> cluelessperson: What's your current load average?
[00:58] <cluelessperson> 's default dns, then I have google's as a backup
[00:58] <cluelessperson> hkrrsx, less than 1%
[00:58] <daftykins> cluelessperson: use an alternative
[00:58] <daftykins> for both.
[00:58] <hkrrsx> cluelessperson: I agree with daftykins on alternative DNS settings
[00:58] <hkrrsx> 8.8.8.8 / 8.8.4.4 are Google's Public DNS
[00:58] <lyndel4> found it siome one else gave me thanks tho :)
[00:58] <daftykins> routers and especially ISP DNS tend to be pretty poor
[00:59] <cluelessperson> hkrrsx, daftykins I have isp_dns1 isp_dns2 google_dns1 in my interaces set.
[00:59] <Bashing-om> lyndel4: glxgears -info ??
[00:59] <hkrrsx> cluelessperson: Use the IP's specifically
[00:59] <daftykins> cluelessperson: that is not sufficient and not appropriate
[00:59] <cluelessperson> daftykins, What is then?
[00:59] <cluelessperson> hkrrsx, I do.
[00:59] <daftykins> do what i said :)
[00:59] <daftykins> that's why i said it.
[00:59] <lyndel4> open dns servers are the wost its best to not sergest it lol i dont trust them also
[00:59] <daftykins> lyndel4: that's utter rubbish i'm afraid.
[01:00] <cluelessperson> I'm trying to show you, but I can't even freaking pastebinit or share the file on the webserver, wtf
[01:00] <lyndel4> yep that was the coomand lol
[01:00] <lyndel4> dude read about it man
[01:00] <daftykins> i know about it.
[01:00] <lyndel4> its not safe and it can be damaging to some users
[01:00] <daftykins> yeah that's silly
[01:01] <daftykins> anyway moving on
[01:01] <lyndel4> lol
[01:01] <cluelessperson> daftykins, hkrrsx My windows desktop has no internet issues what so ever
[01:02] <lyndel4> take care guys
[01:03] <hkrrsx> cluelessperson: Are there any other machines on your network having the same problem ?
[01:03] <hkrrsx> Or is it just this one?
[01:03] <cluelessperson> hkrrsx, No, just ubuntu, when I set static ips on the network
[01:03] <cluelessperson> this is why people don't use linux for daily use
[01:04] <daftykins> i think you configured it badly
[01:04] <hkrrsx> I use it for both work and home
[01:04] <hkrrsx> Daily
[01:04] <cluelessperson> daftykins, I shouldn't be able to configure it badly, on accident
[01:04] <erwin> hello
[01:04] <daftykins> cluelessperson: purge the package resolvconf, reboot, remove your IPs from /etc/network/interfaces and put them in /etc/resolv.conf instead - and google only
[01:04] <hkrrsx> cluelessperson: has your pastebin ability come back?
[01:04] <cluelessperson> hkrrsx, no
[01:05] <daftykins> cluelessperson: this is a pure CLI OS - there is a learning curve. it is not designed to hold the hand of Windows users :)
[01:05] <PHPLearner> how do I access a folder in Ubuntu 14.10 that names of the folder starts with a dot like .local
[01:05] <hkrrsx> cluelessperson: what happens when you try to run this command: " top -bn1 | pastebinit " ?
[01:05] <hkrrsx> Do you get a URL in return or other?
[01:05] <PHPLearner> anyone can help me please
[01:06] <cluelessperson> hkrrsx, It just pauses and waits until the socket times out
[01:06] <cluelessperson> it apparently has no error handling, which is stupid
[01:06] <hkrrsx> cluelessperson: Ok, what's the uptime on that machine?
[01:06] <cluelessperson> hkrrsx, 2 hours.
[01:06] <pavlos> PHPLearner, if you use the File Manager, one of the options is to enable hidden folders
[01:06] <daftykins> cluelessperson: do as above :)
[01:07] <cluelessperson> daftykins, This setup has been working fine for days, why the hell would it fail now?
[01:08] <pavlos> PHPLearner, show hidden files is ctrl+H
[01:08] <daftykins> cluelessperson: i care not, just configure it as i say.
[01:08] <daftykins> assuming your interfaces file is correct to begin with
[01:08] <cluelessperson> daftykins, hkrrsx http://hastebin.com/utubofahaj.hs
[01:08] <Bashing-om> PHPLearner: A dot (.file) file is a 'hideen' file .. to list these hidden files -> ls -al <file_name> . Or GUI ctl+h .
[01:09] <hkrrsx> cluelessperson: thanks
[01:09] <cluelessperson> daftykins, it wouldn't have worked in the first place if it was misconfigured.
[01:09] <daftykins> yes it would
[01:09] <daftykins> cluelessperson: you can either follow my advice or keep dealing with a funky setup :) but arguing it is just wasting both of our time :>
[01:10] <cluelessperson> daftykins, You're failing to explain why I should follow your advice, use your configuration, your way.
[01:10] <daftykins> because i manage servers that all work just dandy
[01:10] <hkrrsx> cluelessperson: what happens if you comment out all but lines 1 - 6 and restart networking ?
[01:10] <cluelessperson> daftykins, It directly contradicts the other ways it's been explained I should set it up as.
[01:10] <daftykins> i disagree, simply a different approach
[01:11] <cluelessperson> daftykins, You can disagree all you want, I'm not moving until I understand why.
[01:11] <cluelessperson> I don't want "just do it this other way"
[01:11] <cluelessperson> I need to understand why this way doesn't work, and it definitely worked before.
[01:12] <daftykins> your loss then. by the way your attitude is absolutely terrible and not that of an open minded willing-to-learn user.
[01:12] <daftykins> approaching free help volunteers with this attitude is shocking
[01:12] <hkrrsx> cluelessperson: The reason daftykins is asking you to do that is because PURGING resolvconf will remove both the resolvconf program and its configuration files in hopes of relieving the problem
[01:12] <daftykins> plus it prevents my configuration approach from working
[01:13] <hkrrsx> Also, by removing the static IP's from /etc/network/interfaces will all your server to test DHCP, so long as you set it to DHCP in /etc/network/interfaces
[01:13] <cluelessperson> daftykins, I want to know WHY it doesn't work first, so I can determine what to do, and my battery is about to die
[01:13] <hkrrsx> Basically, he's asking to reset your configurations back to stock
[01:13] <hkrrsx> Things generally work with stock settings
[01:14] <hkrrsx> We can troubleshoot further from a working set
[01:14] <cluelessperson> hkrrsx, this is the only file I've changed. DNS immediately stopped functioning when I changed this file to static ips
[01:14] <hkrrsx> Dig?
[01:14] <daftykins> cluelessperson: try stating that first time politely in future instead of fighting advice :)
[01:14] <hkrrsx> cluelessperson: Ok, what happens when you put your IP's back to DHCP then?
[01:14] <hkrrsx> Does it start working again ?
[01:15] <cluelessperson> Yes.
[01:15] <hkrrsx> cluelessperson: Humor me and comment out lines 7, 8, 15 and 16 in your /etc/network/interfaces file and restart networking , please
[01:16] <hkrrsx> This is just to test if IPv6 is somehow interfering and disabling your statically set nameservers
[01:16] <kamek> https://gist.githubusercontent.com/deathspawn/b0ccdff7ceac0a6d2cd0/raw/ebc0d932fb4e9499f62d4a8796990963359901d4/gistfile1.txt can anyone help? need to fix wifi
[01:17] <hkrrsx> cluelessperson: " sudo service networking restart ", just for good measure
[01:17] <PHPLearner> pavlos thank you
[01:17] <PHPLearner> so how to I undo ctrl H
[01:17] <pavlos> PHPLearner, np
[01:17] <lotuspsychje> good morning to all
[01:18] <hkrrsx> lotuspsychje: wb
[01:18] <pavlos> PHPLearner, ctrl+H again, it is toggle
[01:18] <cluelessperson> hkrrsx, job filed to restart
[01:18] <PHPLearner> oh ok
[01:18] <cluelessperson> couldn't stop
[01:18] <PHPLearner> thanks pavlos
[01:18] <hkrrsx> Job failed to restart, huh ....
[01:18] <PHPLearner> learn something very important from you today
[01:18] <lotuspsychje> hkrrsx: tnx
[01:18] <hkrrsx> cluelessperson: what does the last few lines of /var/log/syslog say ?
[01:18] <hkrrsx> " tail -20 /var/log/syslog | pastebinit " , please
[01:19] <hkrrsx> cluelessperson: Put sudo in front of that, sorry
[01:19] <cluelessperson> hkrrsx, frozen, waiting to timeout.
[01:20] <hkrrsx> Sorry, CTRL + W 'd myself outta here
[01:21] <hkrrsx> cluelessperson: when your system returns to normal, then lets have the output from my previous command
[01:21] <cluelessperson> hkrrsx, I can't pastebinit, still issues
[01:21] <cluelessperson> cannot restart network service
[01:22] <hkrrsx> cluelessperson: can you switch to TTY1 ?
[01:22] <hkrrsx> CTRL + ALT + 1
[01:22] <hkrrsx> Or are you completely locked up
[01:22] <cluelessperson> hkrrsx, ctrl+Z works fine to escape
[01:23] <hkrrsx> Progress. Excellent.
[01:23] <hkrrsx> sudo tail -20 /var/log/syslog and the put up on that hastebin.com site you previously used ?
[01:25] <hkrrsx> Por favor
[01:32] <cluelessperson> hkrrsx, sorry, it's coming
[01:32] <hkrrsx> Sure, np
[01:32] <cluelessperson> hkrrsx, http://hastebin.com/jexofomupi.sm
[01:32] <hkrrsx> Thanks
[01:33] <hkrrsx> Dude ...
[01:33] <hkrrsx> Try turning off UFW
[01:33] <hkrrsx> sudo ufw stop
[01:34] <cluelessperson> hkrrsx, turned off
[01:34] <hkrrsx> Try again?
[01:34] <daftykins> ufw behind a router :(
[01:34] <enchilado> ur face when?
[01:34] <cluelessperson> hkrrsx, still doesn't work
[01:34] <cluelessperson> enchilado, what's wrong with that?
[01:35] <cluelessperson> Then why the hell is it setup by default?
[01:36] <hkrrsx> cluelessperson: one more time with a slightly different command
[01:36] <cluelessperson> daftykins, what's wrong with ufw behind a router?
[01:37] <cluelessperson> daftykins, I don't want people inside the network potentially accessing ports.
[01:37] <hkrrsx> " sudo grep -i network /var/log/syslog | tail -50 " -> hastebin.com please
[01:37] * daftykins chuckles
[01:37] <daftykins> bed for me, laters
[01:37] <lotuspsychje> daftykins: nite nite
[01:37] <hkrrsx> pz daftykins
[01:38] <cluelessperson> hkrrsx, http://hastebin.com/hagasugebe.sm
[01:38] <urmumstty> sorry this might be off topic, is there something like (for example python -mSimpleHTTPServer equiv) for SFTP that you can pass a chroot and an ssh key to
[01:40] <hkrrsx> cluelessperson: thanks but I don't see much that helps diagnose
[01:40] <cluelessperson> hkrrsx, I have to go for now
[01:40] <wzrd> sup
[01:40] <hkrrsx> cluelessperson: sorry we couldn't resolve it
[01:40] <hkrrsx> Best of luck though
[01:40] <hkrrsx> Thanks for your cooperation
[01:45] <eletious> hello!
[01:56] <nate254> Could someone give me some insight on Ubuntu's synaptics quirks? I'm pretty clueless at this point as my trackpad worked fine in Arch and Gentoo.
[01:57] <eletious> nate254: i'm havin some weird quirks too, that I didn't have in arch... no idea.
[01:58] <nate254> eletious: Mine just isn't being detected at all. In Gentoo, my first look would be in my kernel config, but afaik that's not how Ubuntu works :p
[01:59] <hkrrsx> nate254: what's the output of " sudo lsb_release -d "?
[01:59] <hkrrsx> Or what version of Ubuntu is on your system?
[01:59] <pavlos> nate254, this may help https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SynapticsTouchpad
[01:59] <nate254> 14.10.
[01:59] <nate254> Xubuntu if that matters
[02:00] <ObrienDave> it shouldn't
[02:00] <hkrrsx> nate254: thanks
[02:00] <nate254> pavlos: Thank you. I've read that, but it doesn't cover my issue, sadly.
[02:02] <nate254> xinput list only lists a PS/2 Generic Mouse. I've tried loading synaptics modules manually. Also tried purging and reinstalling input-synaptics
[02:04] <pavlos> nate254, this may help http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2249625
[02:05] <Kenb> Does anyone have a solution to using usb bluetooth dongle, Roper Class?
[02:05] <Kenb> Bus 003 Device 002: ID 1310:0001 Roper Class 1 Bluetooth Dongle
[02:05] <Kenb> I read someplace that they just may not work in Ubuntu period.
[02:06] <nate254> pavlos: thank you, I'll give it a shot
[02:06] <Kenb> All the bluetooth stuff just says nothing.
[02:07] <Kenb> Ubuntu 14.10 on Intel Pentium D (i-386) 64 bit.
[02:10] <duckey> KiwiIRC
[02:10] <duckey> freenode
[02:10] <duckey> 18
[02:10] <duckey> #ubuntu
[02:10] <duckey> [NickServ]
[02:10] <duckey> This nickname is registered. Please choose a different nickname, or identify via /msg NickServ identify <password>.
[02:10] <Kenb> I am also trying to get back my Burg boot screen. Had it working, and after last update, it put in all the efi menu entries. I used super-boot-manager to install it. However, could not get super-boot-manager to remove all the useless entries and get me back to just the 3 or 4.
[02:12] <duckey> I keep on getting this error with the installer disk for 14.04.01: http://imgur.com/nPPaT8f
[02:12] <nate254> pavlos: There was another module which seemed similar so I un-blacklisted that one. The one mentioned in your link wasn't there. Still no luck
[02:12] <Kenb> So I installed grub-customizer. Big mistake. It removed all the unwanted entries, etc. And I did choose to Configure Burg. But now it reboots, says Burg at the very top, but you cannot change theme with t command and it looks like the basic grub screen now.
[02:13] <progamer> oi
[02:13] <nate254> duckey: corrupt disk?
[02:13] <nate254> duckey: I'm a ubuntu noob though. Don't take me too seriously :)
[02:14] <Kenb> Usually you get the joyful Internal Error, or you get selinux errors when starting up.
[02:14] <twenty-three> hi guys, i was wondering how can i make the history command keep record of more commands than what it currently does (2000)? is it possible? also, what is the limit?
[02:14] <duckey> Okay then. I dont really like ubuntu because of unity but I am at a last resort so, need it now!
[02:14] <hkrrsx> twenty-three: which terminal program are you using?
[02:15] <nate254> duckey: that's why I am on Xubuntu :)
[02:15] <twenty-three> hkrrsx: idk, the default one i guess, i haven't installed any additional ones
[02:15] <hkrrsx> twenty-three: the /home/<USER>/.bash_history file should keep all of your commands
[02:15] <nate254> twenty-three: I believe for bash, you can set HISTSIZE=2000 for example in your .bashrc
[02:16] <hkrrsx> twenty-three: also, if you run " history | less ", you can see all of your commands starting at 1
[02:17] <nate254> Also, setting HISTSIZE= and HISTFILESIZE= (without anything to the right of the equals) would theoretically make it unlimited... More on this
[02:17] <Kenb> All the various Xwindows types have their pluses and minuses. Unity does sometimes mess up the Menu placing it under my AWN panel. And then sometimes I go into PCMAN and it wants to show hidden files, I change that and reopen and it is still showing them.
[02:17] <duckey> nate254, I like gnome, just not unity :)
[02:17] <nate254> twenty-three: http://superuser.com/questions/137438/how-to-unlimited-bash-shell-history If you want to read along
[02:17] <Kenb> This Xchat IRC is about the best looking one overall.
[02:18] <nate254> http://ubuntugnome.org/ :P
[02:18] <twenty-three> nate254: thanks a lot
[02:18] <duckey> sadly, I dont have anymore disks to spare!
[02:19] <mastranios> Hello all, I was hoping someone would be able to help me with an issue I am having with pure-ftpd
[02:19] <ObrienDave> Kenb, try HexChat. looks and behaves just like Xchat. currently maintained, has a few more options
[02:19] <Kenb> And the Weather Applet in AWN never seems to show the Forecast.
[02:19] <twenty-three> hkrrsx: i tried "history | less" and it displayed my commands stating from the 1003th, is this normal?
[02:19] <umbra_purus> Need some help. I'm using ubuntu server 14.04.2 lts and just installed gnome desktop but I can't change my resolution. It just appears 640x480 option..
[02:19] <docmur> I'm running Zimbra on Ubuntu Server 14.04 and I can recieve mail but not send it, how can I check my outgoing mail servers
[02:19] <hkrrsx> twenty-three: that's not normal by my experience
[02:20] <Kenb> I did but Xchat works better into the Theme. Hexchat is almost identical. I really dont use it a lot.
[02:20] <hkrrsx> twenty-three: please see the URL provided by nate254
[02:20] <nate254> twenty-three: it just started you at another end of the file.. type "gg" or "G" to go to top and bottom
[02:20] <Kenb> Xchat matches the desktop Theme without any changes.
[02:20] <twenty-three> oh right
[02:20] <umbra_purus> Need some help. I'm using ubuntu server 14.04.2 lts and just installed gnome desktop but I can't change my resolution. It just appears 640x480 option..
[02:21] <twenty-three> i'll work on it, thanks a lot nate254 and hkrrsx . see you later :)
[02:21] <umbra_purus> might it be the lack of drivers?
[02:21] <Kenb> What kind of video card?
[02:21] <nate254> twenty-three: Straight from bash manpage: http://pastebin.com/4Y5xXzUK
[02:21] <umbra_purus> Kenb: me?
[02:21] <twenty-three> noted, thanks
[02:22] <umbra_purus> VirtualBox Graphics Adapter
[02:22] <Kenb> Emachines old hardware is useless for example, it requires special drivers just for windoze XP.
[02:22] <umbra_purus> I'm running ubuntu in oracle VM
[02:23] <Kenb> Oh so the VM I assume is running inside of Ubuntu?
[02:23] <pavlos_> umbra_purus, you need to install the VM extensions so that you can resize your guest OS
[02:23] <Kenb> Or the other way around.
[02:23] <mastranios> I am stopping a service via "service xxx stop" and starting it back up via "service xxx start" and am still getting - flag in "service --status-all
[02:23] <umbra_purus> Kenb: no. I'm running ubuntu in vm
[02:23] <umbra_purus> I'm running oracle with win7.
[02:24] <Kenb> So its the oracle not liking ubuntu.
[02:24] <umbra_purus> VM extensions? When I had ubuntu desktop version it run smoothly
[02:24] <Kenb> Somebody moved the ends.
[02:24] <nimbiotics> Hello everyone. Trying to help a friend who is overseas; he wanted to know whether a certain system is 32 or 64 bit, so I told him to use <<lscpu|grep "CPU op-mode">> and the result was "32-bit, 64-bit" What does this result mean?? TIA!
[02:24] <duckey> So, does anyone have any idea what I can do?
[02:25] <umbra_purus> Any tips?
[02:25] <Kenb> What does System profiler tell him?
[02:25] <nate254> nimbiotics: perhaps multilib? I am running 64-bit and mine says the same thing
[02:26] <nimbiotics> nate254: what does multilib mean?
[02:26] <umbra_purus> Any tips? any?
[02:26] <duckey> Who wants to take LSD and run around the woods naked/
[02:26] <ObrienDave> nimbiotics, it means it supports both 32 and 64 bit libraries
[02:27] <nate254> nimbiotics: It means that the OS has libraries for both architectures and can run both 32bit and 64bit binaries... Have him run "lscpu | grep Arch"
[02:27] <nate254> That seems to be the more accurate output
[02:27] <Kenb> My system is a Pentium D and I get that too.
[02:27] <somsip> nate254: but wont that tell him what his CPU supports, and not what the OS is?
[02:28] <Kenb> Pentium D Intell is dual core 64bit
[02:28] <somsip> nimbiotics: uname -a will tell if it's i386 or x86_x64 that's installed
[02:28] <nate254> somsip: Beat me to it ^_^
[02:28] <somsip> :)
[02:28] <duckey> i686-pae!!!!\
[02:28] <pavlos> nimbiotics, uname -r ...x86_64 in the kernel indicates 64 bit
[02:29] <umbra_purus> Can someone help me out? How can I change the resolution
[02:29] <umbra_purus> =
[02:29] <somsip> umbra_purus: of what? We need details....
[02:29] <duckey> LING LING, SAVE MA!!!!!
[02:29] <somsip> !ot | duckey
[02:30] <nate254> duckey: As long as he isn't driving.
[02:30] <duckey> Oh, sorry
[02:30] <nate254> That too :p
[02:30] <umbra_purus> Runnig ubuntu server 14.04.2 lts. I had no desktop environment and I install the gnome-desktop. But I can't change the resolution. The only option I have is 640x480
[02:30] <pavlos> umbra_purus, host is win7, you installed oravle VM, guest is ubuntu .. there are some extensions to install so that you can resize ubuntu screen
[02:30] <Kenb> Linux Beast 3.13.0-30-generic #55-Ubuntu SMP Fri Jul 4 21:40:53 UTC 2014 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux
[02:31] <pavlos> Kenb, 64 bit
[02:31] <umbra_purus> which extensions?
[02:31] <Kenb> Yes
[02:31] <pavlos> I dont have oracle VM
[02:31] <umbra_purus> I never had to do that with ubuntu desktop
[02:31] <Kenb> CPU op-mode(s): 32-bit, 64-bit
[02:32] <nimbiotics> nate254: lscpu | grep Arch does not return anything
[02:33] <duckey> http://imgur.com/NNeyPTt
[02:33] <duckey> HALP
[02:35] <pavlos> umbra_purus, this may help http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2247660
[02:35] <hkrrsx> !details | duckey
[02:35] <umbra_purus> thanks pavlos
[02:36] <duckey> http://imgur.com/1J46crk Should I click yes or no?
[02:36] <kamysa> olá pessoal
[02:36] <duckey> !Got_milk
[02:37] <hkrrsx> duckey: Are you trying to install Ubuntu to disk?
[02:37] <hkrrsx> If so, why are the partition mounted in the first place?
[02:38] <duckey> Yes but the installer is being a hoe
[02:38] <duckey> IDK
[02:38] <hkrrsx> duckey: Click yes
[02:38] <duckey> Okay, that works!
[02:39] <nate254> Would a touchpad be shown in any utility i can run? (lspci, etc) It's not shown in lspci for me.
[02:40] <duckey> Wait, it says install ubuntu alongside ubuntu, but i dont have ubuntu installed! GHOST!!!!
[02:40] <pavlos_> nate254, mine shows up in lsusb (dell laptop)
[02:41] <nate254> duckey: likely a previously failed installation?
[02:41] <duckey> Yeah thats my guess
[02:41] <nate254> pavlos: thank you. mine does not :/
[02:41] <pavlos_> nate254, laptop model?
[02:41] <nate254> unless its "Chicony Electronics Co." I've got no clue what that is.
[02:42] <nate254> Lenovo E450
[02:42] <hkrrsx> duckey: Here's a YouTube instructional video on how to install Ubuntu: https://youtu.be/omQYrUoAo6s?t=1m23s
[02:42] <nate254> If I had known this would happen I would've taken notes before I wiped my gentoo install earlier today :p
[02:43] <Kenb> Chicony is keyboard usually.
[02:43] <duckey> I figured it out! Thanks though!
[02:43] <nate254> Good to know. Thanks
[02:43] <hkrrsx> duckey: Good work
[02:43] <Kenb> Shoulda used Redo
[02:44] <duckey> Yeah, a little exhausted!
[02:44] <nate254> redo?
[02:44] <pavlos_> nate254, touchpad seems to be ALPS ... http://www.ubuntu.com/certification/hardware/201411-16166/
[02:45] <Kenb> Alps touchpads sux. Well in windoze anyhow, you can never disable the taps on them.
[02:46] <Kenb> I realize that is all software driver based problem of course.
[02:47] <Kenb> Truly the best thing is that Ubuntu sees hardware like 3rd party old PCI cards much better.
[02:47] <nate254> All I care is that i get two-finger scroll working :p and two finger tap for right click
[02:47] <nate254> pavlos: thanks1
[02:48] <Kenb> May need Univeral (handicap) stuff to help with that.
[02:48] <Kenb> Sorry I am a bad typist in spelling.
[02:49] <nate254> Kenb: I hope not. It worked perfectly in Gentoo
[02:50] <nate254> Hah! So "apt-cache search alps" led me to a utility called tpconfig which seems to detect my trackpad. Let's see what it can do
[02:55] <Kenb> So any thoughts on my BURG? Looks to me that I need to remove BURG totally, in order to get it to revert back to grub2 and then try a reinstall of BURG.
[02:56] <Kenb> But before I do that, time to go for a Redo Backup JUC.
[02:57] <Kenb> Is there a better channel to discuss Burg and grub issues
[02:57] <pavlos> Kenb, this may help ... http://howtoubuntu.org/how-to-make-your-dual-boot-better-with-burg
[02:57] <cluelessperson> hkrrsx, I'm back from class
[02:57] <hkrrsx> cluelessperson: wb
[02:57] <cluelessperson> hkrrsx, and in a much better mood. :P
[02:58] <hkrrsx> Excellent
[03:00] <cluelessperson> hkrrsx, so yeah, I cannot access it at cluelessperson.com my gaming group seems to be connecting to teamspeak fine though
[03:01] <cluelessperson> hkrrsx, So I wonder if it's just blocking me for some reason
[03:01] <hkrrsx> cluelessperson: wasn't your situation that your ubuntu server was hanging while trying to access outbound sites?
[03:02] <cluelessperson> hkrrsx, it'd timeout.. because it can't resolve hosts yes
[03:04] <hkrrsx> cluelessperson: Ok, can you hastebin the output of your /etc/resolv.conf file?
[03:04] <hkrrsx> I remember that your /etc/network/interfaces file also had the nameservers set
[03:04] <hkrrsx> Let's see what the difference is
[03:06] <cluelessperson> hkrrsx, http://hastebin.com/hukezijehe.hs
[03:06] <hkrrsx> cluelessperson: You're talking in here from the same machine you're hosting cluelessperson.com from ?
[03:07] <hkrrsx> cluelessperson: That hastebin looks like it's from your /etc/network/interfaces file .... I'm looking for the output of your /etc/resolv.conf file
[03:07] <cluelessperson> ah, one moment
[03:07] <hkrrsx> thanks
[03:08] <cluelessperson> hkrrsx, http://hastebin.com/idozunanep.hs
[03:08] <hkrrsx> Marvelous
[03:09] <hkrrsx> Ok, try this: add this line as the FIRST nameserver entry in the list:
[03:09] <hkrrsx> nameserver 192.168.0.1
[03:09] <hkrrsx> Then comment out the remaining 3
[03:09] <cluelessperson> hkrrsx, done
[03:09] <hkrrsx> By doing this, we're making your gateway the default DNS server
[03:09] <hkrrsx> Ok, sudo service networking restart
[03:10] <cluelessperson> hkrrsx, job failed while stopping
[03:10] <hkrrsx> Eff.
[03:10] <hkrrsx> Forgot about that part
[03:10] <cluelessperson> hkrrsx, I think that's typical
[03:10] <nate254> For anyone who was wondering, my Lenovo's touchpad was fixed by simply updating to the newest kernel (3.19.0)
[03:11] <nate254> I believe there was at least one here who said they had problems as well...
[03:11] <hkrrsx> cluelessperson: Let's try it a different way
[03:12] <hkrrsx> ... and full disclosure, this might drop your connection
[03:12] <cluelessperson> hkrrsx, you think. ;)
[03:12] <hkrrsx> sudo ifdown p1p1 && sudo ifup p1p1
[03:12] <cluelessperson> hkrrsx, ifconfig eth0 down && ifconfig eth0 up
[03:12] <cluelessperson> yeah
[03:13] <cluelessperson> hkrrsx, done
[03:13] <hkrrsx> Test cluelessperson.com again
[03:13] <cluelessperson> hkrrsx, seems to respond readily now
[03:14] <hkrrsx> Try http://ubuntu.com
[03:15] <cluelessperson> hkrrsx, this works now
[03:15] <cluelessperson> http://paste.ubuntu.com/10757187/
[03:15] <hkrrsx> Proper!
[03:16] <hkrrsx> I'd presume it's safe to remove the comment from your IPv6 lines but you should probably remove the dns-nameservers lines
[03:16] <hkrrsx> Especially since you're using 192.168.0.1 as your nameserver
[03:17] <Kenb> nope but surely something is not right with Burg. It keeps saying to rename a file to "Themes.txt" .. Sorry I am fairly new, and so looks like 1 I need to get regular grub back into the mbr and working the way it should be. 2 remove all traces of Burg, and redo it using this webpage link you gave me.
[03:17] <Kenb> 'Now should that be done from the live dvd?
[03:18] <cluelessperson> hkrrsx, http://paste.ubuntu.com/10757210/
[03:19] <hkrrsx> Ok, restart networking and see if you have a STATIC v4 address and a DYNAMIC v6 address
[03:19] <hkrrsx> sudo ifconfig | grep inet
[03:19] <cluelessperson> hkrrsx, that doesn't work at all.
[03:20] <hkrrsx> Which doesn't work ?
[03:20] <cluelessperson> hkrrsx, the file I just showed you
[03:20] <cluelessperson> I can't reconnect to teamspeak
[03:21] <cluelessperson> hkrrsx, weird, works now
[03:21] <hkrrsx> You had this issue the other day too
[03:21] <hkrrsx> It worked one minute and not the next
[03:22] <cluelessperson> hkrrsx, you're sure the gateway is usable as a DNS?
[03:22] <Kenb> Whelp I suppose. I will have to go find a website showing how to completely remove Burg and reinstall grub2 which I know is very so much fun. Oh well if it blows away Ubuntu, I can probably recover from the DVD I hope.
[03:23] <hkrrsx> cluelessperson: It's worked on mine
[03:23] <boring> ping timeout
[03:26] <cluelessperson> hkrrsx, it works now, I just had to reset network twice
[03:26] <cluelessperson> hkrrsx, interesting, no one in teamspeak noticed the interuptions
[03:26] <hkrrsx> Odd that you had to do so twice
[03:26] <cluelessperson> nice.
[03:27] <hkrrsx> cluelessperson: You had UFW started earlier on
[03:27] <hkrrsx> Perhaps you can start it back up again
[03:27] <hkrrsx> You said that you wanted internal network protection
[03:28] <cluelessperson> hkrrsx, I understand that no one can connect on a port that nothing is listening on
[03:28] <hkrrsx> cluelessperson: Precisely
[03:28] <cluelessperson> hkrrsx, but I like to keep all ports that I don't personally use closed
[03:29] <cluelessperson> hkrrsx, So if something happened to be installed accidentally, or without my knowledge, or something was broken, only the ports I want open are open
[03:29] <cluelessperson> good luck getting in on 22, 80, 3306. :P
[03:29] <cluelessperson> or 9987
[03:29] <hkrrsx> That's a good security practice
[03:34] <cluelessperson> hkrrsx, so since we set the dns to 192.168.0.1 8.8.8.8 8.8.4.4
[03:34] <cluelessperson> hkrrsx, I guess the dns nameservers my isp gave me were incorrect and that was producing these issues/
[03:35] <hkrrsx> cluelessperson: actually, your gateway/router is reaching out to the ISP's DNS servers which is why using 192.168.0.1 as a nameserver works at all
[03:35] <hkrrsx> cluelessperson: You can leave 8.8.8.8 / 8.8.4.4 as backups in case your ISP's name servers should fail
[03:36] <hkrrsx> cluelessperson: having backup name servers is also a good practice :)
[03:38] <hkrrsx> ... and to answer the question you actually asked, 192.168.0.1 also allows you to reach the resources on yuro local network, whereas Google or your local ISP's DNS are public
[03:39] <boring> who can tell me how to use goagent
[03:42] <hkrrsx> !offtopic | boring
[03:42] <Kenb> I guess there is no guide to removing burg other than to use synaptic to completely remove it.
[03:42] <hkrrsx> boring: also see https://github.com/goagent/goagent
[03:43] <Kenb> I think the command to install grub2, But I guess I will just use Synaptic to do it all.
[03:43] <javnut> there's always something wrong with my ubuntu installation
[03:43] <Kenb> And then remove super-boot-manager which at first looked like a good idea but now may have been a bad idea?
[03:43] <javnut> something always crashes,or it says panic occurred switching back to text console
[03:43] <javnut> or it randomly logs me out
[03:44] <javnut> if I switch to a 64 bit installation, would that be able to help me out?
[03:44] <pavlos> Kenb, http://askubuntu.com/questions/541164/how-to-remove-burg-and-restore-grub
[03:45] <hkrrsx> javnut: what version of Ubuntu are you currently using?
[03:45] <javnut> 14.04
[03:45] <hkrrsx> javnut: What specifically is crashing?
[03:46] <javnut> hkrrsx: everything
[03:46] <hkrrsx> More specifically.
[03:46] <javnut> chromium,firefox,sometimes I get logged out
[03:46] <javnut> can't open netbeans sometimes
[03:46] <javnut> pulseaudio
[03:46] <javnut> everything just freezes
[03:46] <pavlos> javnut, have you done the usual update / upgrade?
[03:46] <hkrrsx> Are you sure it's a software problem?
[03:46] <hkrrsx> When things freeze, a lot of times it's a lack of resources issue
[03:46] <javnut> hkrrsx: no, but I can't upgrade hardware right now
[03:47] <hkrrsx> RAM or hard disk space
[03:47] <javnut> I've got enough RAM and disk space
[03:47] <javnut> some blocks might be corrupt, but there's enough still there
[03:47] <hkrrsx> Perhaps a FSCK ?
[03:48] <ramen69__> i just bluscreened due to a ram issue infact
[03:48] <javnut> hkrrsx: perhaps
[03:49] <javnut> I'll try it
[03:49] <hkrrsx> Good work
[03:50] <javnut> hkrrsx: I have to do that from the live cd right?
[03:51] <hkrrsx> javnut: Either that or via Recovery Mode (single user mode)
[03:53] <nahtnam> Is there a way I can encrypt my USB drive with a password, but be able to unlock it from any OS? (Cross-platform encryption)
[03:53] <nahtnam> Because I use a windows and ubuntu computer
[03:55] <dukey> I keep on getting installer errors. I was almost done and it said installer crashed
[03:56] <jason__> nahtnam, I've done that using TrueCrypt on windows, though it's not being maintained for Linux anymore (there are clones, though)
[03:56] <Bashing-om> dukedave: A thought. how much ram do you have ? ubuntu is resource hungry .
[03:57] <nahtnam> jason__: Thanks. Ill check it out. Do you know if this is cross-platform? http://www.howtogeek.com/115955/how-to-quickly-encrypt-removable-storage-devices-with-ubuntu/
[03:57] <Ben64> Bashing-om: no it isn't...
[03:58] <jason__> nahtnam, it also has the option of encrypting a container file rather than the whole volume
[03:58] <Bashing-om> Ben64: 2 Gigs for good performance ?
[03:58] <nahtnam> jason__: But its not cross platform?
[03:59] <Ben64> Bashing-om: depends on the desktop choice, but I wouldn't call ubuntu resource hungry compared to windows or whatever
[04:00] <jason__> nahtnam, not sure about the Ubuntu encryption thing. I'd guess not.
[04:00] <Impaloo> Can anyone recommend a system monitoring application with a web interface?
[04:00] <Ben64> !landscape | Impaloo
[04:01] <Bashing-om> Ben64: K. I stand corrected,,, perhaps say that some desktops require greater resources .. I run xfce because it is much much faster than unity .
[04:01] <duckey> !linux
[04:01] <duckey> !ubuntu
[04:01] <duckey> !python
[04:01] <duckey> !HTML
[04:02] <Ben64> duckey: please pm the bot if you want to do that
[04:02] <somsip> !msgthebot | duckey
[04:02] <duckey> OK :(
[04:02] <nahtnam> jason__: One last question: Do I need truecrypt software installed on the windows computer? I cant install applications on the computer.
[04:02] <Kenb> Well I think burg is not such a good idea now.
[04:02] <Impaloo> Ben64: do you know any free software?
[04:03] <Kenb> Bye all got to go do a redo backup before I go crazy.
[04:03] <jason__> nahtnam, yeah I believe so :\
[04:03] <nahtnam> Damn
[04:03] <nahtnam> Thanks for your help jason__
[04:03] <Ben64> Impaloo: i'd just use ssh
[04:03] <DazPetty> can anyone help me with my ftp?
[04:04] <duckey> can anyone help me with the installer issue I have been having
[04:04] <hkrrsx> Impaloo: FYI -- http://www.linuxscrew.com/2012/03/22/linux-monitoring-tools/
[04:04] <DazPetty> I can connect via "ftp localhost" and via "ftp 192.x.x.x" but I can't connect via "ftp public ipaddress"
[04:04] <Impaloo> Ben64: that's what I currently do know, but I don't really have access to authorized ssh clients as often as I'd like
[04:04] <duckey> Ben64, Were you born in 1964?
[04:05] <Ben64> duckey: maybe
[04:05] <duckey> So, yes
[04:05] <duckey> :)
[04:05] <mau5cat> hey
[04:05] <duckey> hi
[04:06] <hkrrsx> DazPetty: Do you have port 21 forwarded from your gateway/router to your internal FTP server?
[04:06] <mau5cat> q y cant i install ubuntu 14.04 on my ibm t42
[04:06] <hkrrsx> DazPetty: Also, does your internal FTP server have a static IP address assigned to it?
[04:07] <duckey> can anyone help me with the installer issue I have been having
[04:07] <DazPetty> hkrrsx yes,yes
[04:07] <DazPetty> the config says "connect_from_port_20=YES"
[04:08] <Impaloo> hkrrsx: thx
[04:08] <DazPetty> is that a prob?
[04:08] <hkrrsx> DazPetty: how about port 21 ?
[04:08] <hkrrsx> Impaloo: You got it :)
[04:08] <DazPetty> on my router i forward port 21 to my machine
[04:08] <hkrrsx> DazPetty: has your external IP changed ?
[04:09] <DazPetty> but the config file of vsftpd has " connect_from_port_20=YES " #make sure PORT transfer connections originate from port 20
[04:09] <hkrrsx> I presume your external IP is coming from your ISP
[04:09] <DazPetty> yeah my isp gives static ips
[04:09] <hkrrsx> Impressive
[04:09] <hkrrsx> What is that static IP, if you don't mind
[04:10] <duckey> I have a feeling thy are selling there customers data at a price :) lol
[04:10] <DazPetty> hkrrsx I pm'ed you
[04:10] <hkrrsx> DazPetty: Got it
[04:13] <duckey> can anyone help me with the installer issue I have been having
[04:15] <duckey> Fuck you guys, Im goin home......
[04:16] <Sunstream> Help: How do I reset my password if I forgot it? I know there is a boot option for that but I forgot how do to this I am sorry to ask
[04:16] <somsip> duckey: !password | Sunstream
[04:17] <somsip> !password | Sunstream
[04:20] <Sunstream> okay
[04:20] <W4RU> what's happening ppl?
[04:29] <hkrrsx> !hi | W4RU
[04:30] <{TITAN}> can a class action lawsuit be filed against harris county for ubuntu's bloatedness. i can't stand it with an i3
[04:30] <mau5cat> im chating on a linux and ubuntu
[04:31] <aeon-ltd> {TITAN}: then don't use ubuntu
[04:31] <{TITAN}> why
[04:32] <{TITAN}> its just money man get over it
[04:32] <aeon-ltd> {TITAN}: there are lighter alternatives
[04:32] <hkrrsx> {TITAN}: Perhaps try another flavor of Ubuntu, say xubuntu or lubuntu
[04:32] <aeon-ltd> i wouldn't get your hopes up for monetary compensation
[04:32] <{TITAN}> bring back to oneiric and the treasury department will make ubuntu rich again
[04:34] <mau5cat> what ubuntu do u have internet
[04:36] <aeon-ltd> mau5cat: what?
[04:38] <mau5cat> what ubuntu do u peeps have
[04:39] <Sunstream> I was about to give up on trying to figure out how to get to the correct option in the GRUB loader however in 14.10 it is under advanced options the directions on the site is for 9.x not 14.10 :( But when I did find my way to the ROOT RECOVERY SHELL I could not get the password to take kept saying token manipulation failing but I forgot to do a mount command once that was done I won a cookie and fixed my password
[04:39] <Hun9ryH1ppo> Grub is a huge bitch when it wants to be.
[04:40] <mau5cat> the grub way to the left on my monitor
[04:41] <Hun9ryH1ppo> I'm pentesting on Ubuntu 14.04 LTS, testing for vulnerabilities in my wireless, but every time I attempt to kill the processes that are interfering with monitor mode, they automatically start back again.
[04:43] <mau5cat> yawn i like linux better
[04:43] <mallu> I'm trying to install ldapclient on Ubuntu 12.04. I'm getting " nslcd[1120]: [06c83e] <authz="<userid>"> "<userid>": user not found: No such object. This <userid> is a local user
[04:44] <mallu> I'm following this instruction http://www.server-world.info/en/note?os=Ubuntu_12.04&p=ldap&f=2
[04:44] <mallu> when following the insruction I am not seeing steps 3-7
[04:45] <mallu> Any help would be greatly appreciated as I am stick on this for couple of days
[04:46] <hkrrsx> mallu: https://duckduckgo.com/?q=ubuntu+ldapclient&ia=about
[04:52] <zaggynl> hi, I someone how managed to reverse Caps Lock, LED on means text will show lower case and vice versa
[04:53] <zaggynl> makes me wonder if this can be resolved without rebooting
[04:53] <hkrrsx> zaggynl: Per http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=784935 , try " sudo apt-get remove mouseemu "
[04:54] <zaggynl> thanks
[04:54] <zaggynl> its not installed, ill try replugging my keyboard thougjh
[04:55] <zaggynl> and resolved
[04:55] <hkrrsx> Occam's Razor ftw
[04:56] <mallu> hkrrsx: none of those links resolve my issue
[04:56] <hkrrsx> mallu: Have you tried removing the local user and then re-adding as an LDAP user?
[04:56] <mallu> can someone tells me how I can tell nslcd to check local /etc/passwd first
[04:56] <superrorc> hi there! trying connect to pptp win network manager , and failed. here is log http://paste.debian.net/plain/165415
[04:57] <superrorc> any ideas pls?
[04:57] <mallu> hkrrsx: no. I don't want this user as LDAp user
[04:57] <mallu> hkrrsx: This is my backup user if ldap doesn't work or down
[04:58] <hkrrsx> mallu: How about creating a separate user for LDAP
[04:58] <mallu> hkrrsx: I already has ldap users and I'm able to login fine
[04:59] <hkrrsx> mallu: Sorry, I've never set up LDAP before and am out of thoughts
[05:02] <agent_white> ROOT
[05:03] <hkrrsx> mallu: Why not try #ldap ?
[05:03] <mallu> hkrrsx: already tried.. very quiet
[05:04] <hkrrsx> Give it time
[05:05] <cluelessperson> What's the way to check how many threads I have available?
[05:08] <hkrrsx> cluelessperson: While it doesn't exactly answer your question, check this out: http://stackoverflow.com/questions/344203/maximum-number-of-threads-per-process-in-linux
[05:08] <tnkhanh> what would happen if I "make install" a project twice?
[05:09] <tnkhanh> Is the result the same if I do it once :-/
[05:10] <cluelessperson> hkrrsx, interesting
[05:10] <cluelessperson> hkrrsx, I mean more towards, cores x threads per core
[05:10] <hkrrsx> cluelessperson: Yeah, I had a feeling
[05:11] <cluelessperson> hkrrsx, I need to confirm my dual core processor is utilizing all its virtual cores
[05:11] <cluelessperson> hkrrsx, It's appearing as two cpus
[05:11] <hkrrsx> cluelessperson: Try htop
[05:12] <hkrrsx> That'll give you an ncurses interface that shows CPU usage per core in graph form
[05:12] <cluelessperson> hkrrsx, shows two cores
[05:13] <cluelessperson> I need to verify that there are 4 threads/virtual cores available totla
[05:13] <hkrrsx> Doesn't sound like there is on that processor
[05:13] <hkrrsx> However, you could run " sudo inxi -C " and that would tell you for certain
[05:13] <cluelessperson> hkrrsx, it's a i3 4360, dual core
[05:14] <cluelessperson> hkrrsx, didn't work
[05:14] <hkrrsx> Do you have inxi installed ?
[05:14] <TheC4mel> For some reason, every now and then my ubuntu session will crash sometimes, with a black screen, then it'll go back to the login page, and when I log in all of my opened applications are gone.
[05:14] <hkrrsx> cluelessperson: well .... per http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819116993 , it says that processor is a dual core with hyperthreading
[05:15] <hkrrsx> So there should be 4 "cores" that show up in htop
[05:15] <tnkhanh> TheC4mel: Wow you have problem
[05:15] <cluelessperson> hkrrsx, yes, 4 virtual
[05:15] <Sl0P3> sweg
[05:15] <TheC4mel> tnkhanah: I know, that's why I came here. Lol
[05:16] <tnkhanh> TheC4mel: sorry I'm just spamming, I don't know the solution =='. Try turn off the login page?
[05:16] <hkrrsx> cluelessperson: unfortunately, i can't help you confirm that the software you're using is making efficient use of all 4 virtual cores
[05:17] <TheC4mel> Eh... Maybe my desktop session crashes/ goes blank sometimes because my computer ram is overloaded?
[05:17] <TheC4mel> I'm not sure
[05:17] <cluelessperson> hkrrsx, it's ubuntu server lol
[05:18] <hkrrsx> true
[05:18] <Sl0P3> ubuntu hacked me once
[05:19] <TheC4mel> Does anyone know why my Ubuntu session sometimes crashes?
[05:20] <tuda> 靠，咱聊呀
[05:35] <hkrrsx> Bedtime. Night.
[05:37] <tnkhanh> hi anyone awake? xD
[05:37] <agent_white> NOPE
[05:38] <DJJeff> gvfsd-http not closing tcp connections leaving them in a CLOSE_WAIT state
[05:38] <DJJeff> this is 100% a security risk
[05:38] <DJJeff> this problem was reported back in 2012
[05:38] <DJJeff> its now 2015 and still an issue in trusty
[05:39] <tnkhanh> DJJeff: wow scary
[05:39] <tnkhanh> DJJeff: I thought ubuntu is saeff
[05:39] <tnkhanh> *safe
[05:39] <DJJeff> comments on launchpad says its todo with gnome and not ubuntu
[05:39] <DJJeff> also its todo with webdav and not many people understand webdav
[05:40] <DJJeff> a fix was commit for upstream but never made it in
[05:40] <agent_white> gvfsd-http needs to learn to ACK.
[05:40] <DJJeff> here is the related commit
[05:40] <DJJeff> https://git.gnome.org/browse/gvfs/commit/?id=cac808508f1fcdb3c9c00cdb36ba6053a1f5dbbb
[05:41] <tnkhanh> Hi I want to install this kdevelop and cmake is its dependency. But I installed my shiny cmake from source and dont want another cmake from repo. Help :(
[05:45] <ramen69> tnkhanh: download the kdevelop package only then use dpkg to install it?
[05:45] <tnkhanh> ramen69: thanks, let me try
[05:46] <ramen69> apt-get -d
[05:54] <tnkhanh> ramen69: now I'm installing kdevelop from source
[05:55] <tnkhanh> ramen69: lol
[05:55] <ramen69> =^)
[06:01] <linuxuz3r> hi
[06:01] <linuxuz3r> if i buy music from amazon
[06:01] <linuxuz3r> can i play from any device
[06:02] <linuxuz3r> or do i need an amazon music player
[06:02] <cfhowlett> linuxuz3r, ask Amazon??
[06:02] <linuxuz3r> ok
[06:02] <ramen69> linuxuz3r: i think you can download mp3s
[06:02] <ramen69> but ask amazon, its not an ubuntu question
[06:12] <zero_coder> hey, i cant build a package because libboost version. I need to downgrade it to an older version
[06:12] <zero_coder> its ubuntu 14.10
[06:31] <momken> hello
[06:31] <momken> when I press ctrl+alt+f1 my screen went black
[06:31] <momken> but no terminal
[06:31] <momken> What should I do?
[06:32] <Wulf> momken: press ctrl-left
[06:32] <Wulf> err.. alt-left
[06:32] <Jonno_FTW> how do I send a softfont when I print?
[06:32] <momken> Wulf, alt+left arrow?
[06:33] <DazPetty> hey, I made a home ftp and ssh server today, however I have the problem that my home password is not very secure
[06:33] <DazPetty> I dont want a long password just for when I'm doing my thing at home on my comp
[06:33] <OerHeks> momken, press crl alt f2 for tty
[06:33] <OerHeks> momken, or ctrl alt f7 to return to a gui
[06:33] <momken> OerHeks, I tested ctrl alt f2 too
[06:33] <DazPetty> but I'd like some additional security for my ftp / ssh, can anyone give me some recomendations
[06:33] <DazPetty> ?
[06:33] <momken> OerHeks, ctrl alt f7 works, but not f1 - f6
[06:34] <OerHeks> momken, ctrl alt f2 can take 2.5 seconds to appear
[06:34] <OerHeks> not too fast
[06:34] <momken> OerHeks, It doesn't work at all
[06:36] <momken> OerHeks, I will go to ubuntu recovery then
[06:37] <Dashell> can anyone here provide support by chance?
[06:39] <cfhowlett> !ask | Dashell
[06:39] <Dashell> okay so i upgraded from 14.04 to 14.10, i noticed when I was upgrading the termimial gave out some errors like "Cannot find such and such" but at the end it said everything was fine
[06:40] <Dashell> when I restarted ,everything worked perfectly for the first hour or two, but then the song I was listening too, suddenly began to skip, the screen crashed and when it came back it was all fuzzy
[06:40] <Dashell> so I forced a restart and again everything worked fine but it just happened again
[06:41] <Dashell> i'm afraid i don't know how to explain it anymore than that, but if there's like... something I can run to look at crashes im sure someone can figure it out, thanks
[06:42] <cfhowlett> Dashell, lets' check: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[06:43] <Dashell> i did those right after i upgraded but ill do them again if you thnk it might help
[06:43] <Dashell> okay it's all upgraded
[06:44] <cfhowlett> Dashell, errors???
[06:44] <Dashell> i don't see any, no
[06:45] <cfhowlett> Dashell, you might find more info in your system logs
[06:45] <Dashell> okay can you explain in a bit more detail? I don't know exactly where they are
[06:46] <dragly> Dashell: Have you tried reinstalling your graphics drivers? Sounds similar to experiences I've had with Nvidia.
[06:47] <Dashell> no i didn't do that
[06:47] <dragly> Could be worth the try if everything else fails.
[06:48] <superrorc> root@kali:~# dpkg -l | grep pptp
[06:48] <superrorc> rc network-manager-pptp 0.9.4.0-2 i386 network management framework (PPTP plugin core)
[06:48] <Dashell> but would that make the music skip and things like that?
[06:48] <superrorc> Package 'network-manager-pptp' is not installed, so not removed
[06:48] <superrorc> wtf?
[06:49] <cfhowlett> !paste | superrorc 1. no profanity. 2. please use paste
[06:49] <dancular> If I run make;;make install and it's taking over an hour with loads of 2.99,2.85,2.68 but it's a very low-end vps
[06:49] <dancular> should i just run it overnight or is something wrong?
[06:49] <dancular> this is just compiling znc
[06:49] <Dashell> im sorry how do i do the driver thinga gain?
[06:50] <Dashell> i just read about that and now i can't find it
[06:50] <dragly> Dashell: could be if your music app is locked up while drawing. Happens to me with Spotify sometimes.
[06:51] <dragly> What kind of graphics card do you have?
[06:51] <Dashell> i would say that if it wasn't two separeate apps :(
[06:51] <superrorc> Does DPKG have some cache? its shows packageswhich not installed!
[06:51] <superrorc> http://paste.debian.net/plain/165422
[06:52] <Dashell> does this help :01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD/ATI] Oland PRO [Radeon R7 240]
[06:52] <cfhowlett> superrorc, you're running kali? as root?
[06:53] <superrorc> cfhowlett: and>
[06:53] <superrorc> ?
[06:53] <mehdi> hey guys i install flash player but only my firefox is using it how can i activated it for another browser or system-wide?
[06:53] <cfhowlett> !kali | superrorc
[06:53] <superrorc> cfhowlett: dpkg is utility for all debian based distros
[06:53] <superrorc> if u dont know
[06:54] <Ben64> superrorc: this channel only supports ubuntu
[06:54] <Dashell> now im getting a printer error and im not trying to print anything
[06:54] <cfhowlett> superrorc, I did know but thanks. kali is not ubuntu and not supported here. if you didn't know. :)
[06:54] <superrorc> cfhowlett: kali and ubuntu debian based
[06:54] <superrorc> all have dpkg
[06:55] <cfhowlett> superrorc, kali is - not - supported - here. go to kali for support
[06:55] <Ben64> superrorc: correct, but that doesn't change the fact that this channel only supports Ubuntu.
[06:55] <superrorc> ...
[06:56] <superrorc> " <towo^work> rc does not mean it's installed " - from debian chanels
[06:56] <superrorc> they dont say me go to kali ))
[06:57] <superrorc> linux is not ubuntu
[06:57] <Dashell> would changing video drivers help?
[06:58] <Dashell> im sorry but how can i stop this printer error? It thnks IM trying to print something and I don't have a printer so I can't hook it up or anything
[06:58] <Dashell> and it pops up every 3 seconds
[06:59] <dragly> Dashell: You have an AMD graphics card then. I don't have much experience with those, but there is probably some info on reinstalling drivers online.
[06:59] <dragly> As for the printer error, I'm not sure what might be causing that.
[06:59] <Dashell> i must have hit print and now it just keeps trying to print, thre must be like a print queue or something
[06:59] <geirha> superrorc: dpkg has its own cache, yes. So assuming dpkg -l only outputs installed packages is an error
[07:01] <Dashell> oh weird, it was a test page
[07:03] <aliman> morning everyone
[07:03] <SVCR3D-SHVD0WS> hey ive got a problem that google cant fix....... when i download a program from the internet, cookie cadger now spiderfoot once its downloaded i am only able to view it as a folder not as a program i can click on and use... please help
[07:03] <aliman> can anyone help me a bit? i have been searching on google and so but couldn't find any help
[07:03] <Dashell> but i have a question, how do i check my system logs or is there an error log i can look at when it crashes?
[07:04] <hateball> !ask | aliman
[07:04] <aliman> i use skype and my mic is not working properly...but only on skype in rest is ok. the person i want to talk with can't hear me. i mean it can but a extremly low level almost hear nothing
[07:05] <cfhowlett> aliman, check skype volume settings
[07:05] <aliman> cfhowlett, all settings are ok
[07:06] <aliman> i even tried pavucontrol and still not working
[07:06] <Dashell> aliman i had that exact problem once, i remember i had to go into some weird volume control, cause the mic was turned all the way down
[07:06] <OerHeks> SVCR3D-SHVD0WS, what is "cookie cadger now spiderfoot" ?is it a hacking tool to put malware on websites?
[07:06] <OerHeks> not supported here mister
[07:07] <aliman> i found something like to move volume for front right speaker to 20% and front left speaker to 80% but still not working
[07:07] <Dashell> did you try alsamixer?
[07:07] <Dashell> aliman
[07:07] <Dashell> sorry i forgot to put your name in there
[07:08] <aliman> even if i move the speakers volume like in that tutorial when i make a call and i speak they automaticaly move back
[07:08] <Dashell> aliman, are you using alsamixer?
[07:09] <aliman> Dashell, no i haven't tried that yet
[07:09] <Dashell> try to get it
[07:09] <aliman> can i use sudo apt-get install alsamixer or i need anything else?
[07:09] <Dashell> that's what you need, it'll have te mic volume and you need to turn it iup
[07:09] <Dashell> i think so
[07:09] <Dashell> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Audio/Alsamixer
[07:10] <geirha> SVCR3D-SHVD0WS: so apparently neither ubuntu nor the authors themselves have packaged this for Ubuntu, so you're left with installing from source. There's no recipe for installing from source other than "read the provided documentation and know what the necessary commands do"
[07:10] <OerHeks> geirha, it is a hackingtool, not supported here.
[07:10] <aliman> Dashell, E: Unable to locate package alsamixer
[07:11] <OerHeks> aliman, alsamixer is installed standard, type'alsamixer' in terminal
[07:11] <cfhowlett> cookie cadger is a "session hijacking tool" ... shudder
[07:11] <Dashell> try apt-get install libasound2 alsa-utils alsa-oss
[07:12] <aliman> OerHeks, is not pre-installed
[07:12] <OerHeks> aliman, it is.
[07:12] <SVCR3D-SHVD0WS> 0erheks, this isint about hacking i just used them as an example. my problem is with UBUNTU because when i download stuff from the web the app wont run and i am only able to view folders
[07:12] <aliman> well i just searched for alsamixer and found nothing
[07:12] <aliman> OerHeks, only a doc file called alsa-util.service
[07:12] <cfhowlett> SVCR3D-SHVD0WS, if your example didn't specify known hacking tools ...
[07:13] <SVCR3D-SHVD0WS> geirha, thank you so just to confirm i need to read the documentation and basicley follow the instructions and use command line to make it a usable app
[07:13] <SVCR3D-SHVD0WS> desueme then jeez cfhowlett
[07:14] <SVCR3D-SHVD0WS> if anyone else wants to weigh in on this about turning apps to from a folder to a useable app would be emensely apreciated
[07:14] <Dashell> aliman does this help https://apps.ubuntu.com/cat/applications/gnome-alsamixer/
[07:15] <OerHeks> !build
[07:15] <aliman> Dashell, trying to install it now
[07:17] <Guest55> Hey
[07:18] <Dashell> i guess ill just post on the forum but thanks
[07:18] <momomo> Is there a way to stop the unity application switcher from stop grouping same applications into one?
[07:19] <momomo> The compiz switchers have a problem when used with several monitors as it can't be shown consistently on any monitor, so don't suggest that one.
[07:22] <momken> Hello
[07:23] <boring> hello
[07:23] <momken> What's equivalent to lightdm/gdm in ubuntu 14.04?
[07:23] <aliman> i see an extension adblock and adblock plus. which one is better?
[07:23] <momken> I always use xubuntu, so I am not familiar with unity and its graphic stack
[07:23] <OerHeks> momken, ubuntu uses lightdm
[07:24] <_ACID__> adblock plus is better
[07:25] <OerHeks> aliman, both can be detected by websites and get paid to let ads trough
[07:25] <aliman> OerHeks, what you mean?
[07:25] <OerHeks> aliman, what part do you not understand?
[07:25] <boring> which one could tell me how to use goagent
[07:26] <aliman> aaa i think now i understand after reading 2nd time. so do you know any other better extension?
[07:26] <kohaner> how
[07:26] <momken> OerHeks, I want to follow instructions here to install nvidia 334.21 on ubuntu 14.04: http://askubuntu.com/questions/425140/unable-toboot-with-nvidia-gtx-750-ti-even-with-latest-beta-drivers
[07:27] <momken> OerHeks, At the final step I have to stop gdm or lightdm service
[07:27] <momken> OerHeks, But I can't
[07:27] <boring> i am new here
[07:27] <momken> OerHeks, When I do "sudo service lightdm stop", it starts again in all my ttys
[07:27] <boring> who can teach me
[07:27] <Ben64> momken: don't install nvidia that way
[07:28] <cfhowlett> !details | boring,
[07:28] <OerHeks> momken, switch to ctrl alt f2: sudo service lightdm stop. then install the driver and run sudo service lightdm start
[07:28] <OerHeks> momken, i would use the driver tool within softwarecenter
[07:28] <Ben64> momken: using this ppa is a much better option -- https://launchpad.net/~xorg-edgers/+archive/ubuntu/ppa
[07:29] <OerHeks> Ben64 +1 only if you need a newer driver than available
[07:29] <momken> Ben64, I did it these steps for installing nvidia on xubuntu and it worked.
[07:30] <Ben64> OerHeks: which the gtx 750 needs
[07:30] <boring> How to use goagent over the wall
[07:30] <Ben64> momken: until the next kernel update, sure
[07:31] <kohaner> How to use goagent over the wall
[07:31] <cfhowlett> http://r.search.yahoo.com/_ylt=AwrTcd6thyNV5EIAt0UnnIlQ;_ylu=X3oDMTBydmltOXB0BHNlYwNzcgRwb3MDNgRjb2xvA2dxMQR2dGlkAw--/RV=2/RE=1428420653/RO=10/RU=http%3a%2f%2ffreenuts.com%2fhow-to-install-and-use-goagent%2f/RK=0/RS=i2TpmpoAf1M3BkZeJKSkL7evXbc-
[07:31] <OerHeks> kohaner, what is goagent over the wall?
[07:31] <OerHeks> url?
[07:32] <aliman> does anyone knows any better extension then adblock that cant both can be detected by websites and get paid to let ads trough like OerHeks said?
[07:35] <hateball> aliman: I find µBlock to be better in that aspect
[07:36] <momken> Ben64, Thank you very much. I added that PPA. Now what package should I install?
[07:36] <momken> I need nvidia 334.21
[07:37] <Ben64> momken: you don't need 334.21, you need a driver that will support your card
[07:37] <OerHeks> momken, after adding, go to the drivermenu, it will show newer drivers
[07:38] <Ben64> that ppa has up to 349, so i'd say use 349
[07:38] <momken> Ben64, Thanks
[07:38] <aliman> hateball, thank you
[07:38] <kohaner> 没有中国人？
[07:38] <cfhowlett> !cn | kohaner
[07:38] <momken> OerHeks, thank you very much too :)
[07:39] <aliman> my web pages loads much faster without ads
[07:40] <hunteriam> guys, how do i boot from a different device without using BIOS?
[07:41] <OerHeks> hunteriam, not. bios handles bootdevice choise
[07:41] <hunteriam> ive read you could choose to boot from a usb via grub, is grub not a post bios thing?
[07:43] <OerHeks> hunteriam, that would be possible, but you still boot from the device selected in your bios
[07:43] <hunteriam> ... but you also boot from the usb stick?
[07:44] <hunteriam> eh i guess its just not possible
[07:45] <OerHeks> hunteriam, after booting grub, you could load the USB, i never done that personally
[07:45] <hunteriam> how do i boot grub instead of ubuntu?
[07:45] <aliman> my mic is still not working. i tried with gnome alsa mixer but cant make it
[07:46] <hunteriam> OerHeks:
[07:46] <aliman> and its only bad on skype
[07:46] <hunteriam> aliman: check your skype sound settings?
[07:46] <aliman> hunteriam, yes i did
[07:47] <hunteriam> gl, i hate sound issues
[07:47] <OerHeks> hunteriam, hold shift @ boot
[07:47] <hunteriam> thanks!
[07:47] <hunteriam> ill try it once
[07:50] <fearless> hello can anyone tell me a good command line bit to byte calculator?
[07:52] <geirha> bc <<< "ibase=2; 01010101"
[07:53] <fearless> geirha can i do like how many MB does 209890 bits has?
[07:53] <OerHeks> 209890/8
[07:53] <geirha> fearless: That's different. You just divide by 8
[07:54] <SCHAAP137> x bits / 8 = x bytes
[07:56] <rblst> hello all, i have a mobile internet modem that creates a wired network, but it is disabled (greyed out) in NetworkManager, 12.04 LTS; how to enable it?
[07:56] <fearless> geirha I need to make a program to convert bit to byte, example 1 bit to 1 byte etc can you tell me what i need to know? or use?
[07:57] <aliman> can anyone tell me why anytime i log into ubuntu i need to enter the pass for unlocking the keyring and how i get rid of it?
[07:57] <OerHeks> fearless, 1 mb = 8 bits x 1024 bytes x 1024 bytes, so 209890 / 8388608 = 0,025020838 mb exactly
[07:58] <OerHeks> aliman, normally when the keyring pass is the same as you account, you would not need to double unlock
[07:58] <aliman> well is the same
[07:58] <Dashell> okay nowi have a new problem, the entire screen shifted to the left and the proper driver for my graphics card isn't even listed anymore
[07:59] <Dashell> *shifted to the right, there's a big black spot on the left, sorry
[07:59] <Dashell> when i go to "display" it says laptop
[08:00] <Dashell> im not using a laptop
[08:00] <Dashell> i can't believe i thought i was smart enough to do stuff like this
[08:20] <mickyu> can anyone tell me a good commandline bit to byte calculator ex 1 bit to 1 byte conversion
[08:21] <PCatinean> Hey guys I run a python script in a cron but I do not get any output, any idea why that is hapening?
[08:21] <PCatinean> I'm doing > /tmp/bla
[08:21] <PCatinean> running manually works but with cron nothing happens
[08:21] <shiv> hi everyone i want to snmp agent with my linux debian distribution machine. As i can installed snmp deb package. but i want to integrate new mib with agent so that it can include new features, Can anyone guide me how i can add new MIB with handles with Agent and then compile, create a deb package to install on machine and verify it
[08:22] <mickyu> all those bit to byte conversion calculators are online i need an offline program
[08:23] <mickyu> is there any command line bit to byte conversion out there? like a script or something
[08:23] <shiv> Is there anyone who can assist
[08:23] <shiv> me
[08:23] <Sohail-Ahmed> shiv ask!
[08:24] <Sohail-Ahmed> !ask shiv
[08:24] <somsip> !ask | shiv
[08:24] <shiv> any ref guidance to implement MIB with snmp agent and generate a deb package
[08:25] <somsip> shiv: admittedly, you had explained yourself but that was for Sohail-Ahmed really. I forgot the content asked for details again
[08:25] <shiv> hi everyone i want to snmp agent with my linux debian distribution machine. As i can installed snmp deb package. but i want to integrate new mib with agent so that it can include new features, Can anyone guide me how i can add new MIB with handles with Agent and then compile, create a deb package to install on machine and verify it
[08:26] <Dashell> i can't select any proprietary drivers
[08:26] <Dashell> this is just insane
[08:26] <OerHeks> Dashell, prop driver for ..?
[08:27] <Dashell> amd/ati card i gues
[08:27] <Dashell> i dunno what happened my entire screen shifted to the right, there's a big blank spot on the left
[08:27] <htqp> !debian
[08:28] <OerHeks> Dashell, what amd/aticard exactly ? " lspci | grep VGA " # this command should show one line, paste that here
[08:29] <Dashell> um
[08:29] <Dashell> No command 'spci' found, did you mean: Command 's2ci' from package 'scheme2c' (universe) Command 'xpci' from package 'xdiagnose' (main) Command 'sci' from package 'scheme2c' (universe) Command 'lspci' from package 'pciutils' (main) Command 'spc' from package 'supercat' (universe) spci: command not found
[08:29] <k3asd`> quit
[08:29] <PCatinean> */2 * * * * python /opt/bla/test.py > /tmp/output_test and the script has print "hello" and still does not run
[08:29] <OerHeks> Dashell, why paste an error you made? LSPCI !
[08:29] <Dashell> cause im dumb and he told me to paste the thing
[08:30] <Dashell> and i thought maybe the error would tell why it wasn't working
[08:30] <OerHeks> lspci | grep VGA
[08:30] <Dashell> im sorry
[08:31] <Dashell> only thing i can think of is my graphic card crashed and it went back to the default one but i have no idea what to do about it
[08:32] <Dashell> anyways ill go now, sorry for bothering you, i just wanted some help
[08:32] <OerHeks> Dashell, please take your time, it is not that hard.
[08:32] <Dashell> i posted what you said, and got an error
[08:32] <Dashell> i potsed the same thing earlier and got a different respons
[08:33] <OerHeks> Dashell, you skipped the L >>> lspci | grep VGA
[08:34] <Dashell> 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD/ATI] Oland PRO [Radeon R7 240]\
[08:34] <Dashell> that's i think what it said before
[08:36] <Dashell> the drivers are listed, i just can't select them
[08:37] <OerHeks> Dashell, maybe this ati page is any help ( i do not have ati myself) >> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/AMD
[08:38] <Dashell> i was looking at that, i just don't understand why it'd suddenly stop working when it was working fine 15 minutes ago
[08:39] <k1l> see dmesg for errors then
[08:40] <k1l> (if you want to know what happend)
[08:41] <Dashell> can you elaborate?
[08:46] <k1l> Dashell: you said you want to know what happend so it stopped working. dmesg lists system messages since boot. to type "dmesg" into terminal and see what error happend
[08:47] <Dashell> i did but i guess i thought i was looking for something specific... and i mean it's been going on SINCE i rebooted
[08:48] <k1l> ofcourse you can look into the xorg.log too
[08:48] <k1l> you will find the logs in /var/log/
[08:49] <Dashell> i've restarted twice and the screen is still to the right... im trying to install something else now
[08:49] <Dashell> the system gave an error when it restarted a bout running in low resource mode or something idk, i couldn't read it cause it was on the right side of the screen
[08:50] <k1l> Dashell: without looking into the logs or at least providing those logs we can just guess form the info you think its important.
[08:50] <Dashell> do you want me to post the whole log?
[08:50] <Dashell> it was kinda long
[08:51] <k1l> !paste | Dashell
[08:51] <Dashell> here you go http://paste.ubuntu.com/10759651/
[08:53] <k1l> Dashell: what gives you "uname -a"?
[08:53] <shiv> @somsip
[08:53] <Dashell> Linux FredII 3.16.0-33-generic #44-Ubuntu SMP Thu Mar 12 12:19:35 UTC 2015 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux
[08:53] <shiv> can u guide me?
[08:53] <Dashell> is that what you mean?
[08:53] <k1l> yep
[08:55] <k1l> Dashell: please run a "sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade"
[08:55] <k1l> Dashell: and how did you install your video driver? from ubuntu or from some website?
[08:55] <Dashell> 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
[08:56] <Dashell> you know and when I install 14.04 it just worked
[08:56] <Dashell> it was just there, which is why Im so confused now
[08:56] <Dashell> i never had to install anything from the site or anything
[08:56] <k1l> Dashell: "sudo apt-get install fglrx"
[08:59] <marus> hello, i have OpenJDK Runtime Environment (IcedTea 2.5.4) (7u75-2.5.4-1~trusty1) already installed
[08:59] <Dashell> it's installed
[08:59] <aliman> is it nautilus a program or is only that hiden folder from home?
[08:59] <marus> and i want to install oracle java, should i purge the last one first?
[08:59] <k1l> aliman: nautilus is the file browser
[08:59] <aliman> Give skype.sh execution rights by browsing with Nautilus over there, right click on the file, go to Properties, go to Permissions tab, and select "Execute" for the user.
[08:59] <aliman> Double click on the file and you should be done.
[08:59] <aliman> i dont exactly understand what i need to do here
[09:00] <k1l> aliman: no need to follow that howto. enable the partner repo and install skype from the repo
[09:00] <k1l> !skype | aliman
[09:00] <aliman> i found that file skype.sh i right pressed it went to permissions and i checked the execute but my intup still not working
[09:00] <marus> do i have to remove openjdk befor installing oracle java?
[09:00] <k1l> aliman: no need for that.
[09:01] <aliman> i know guys this is not for installing skype i have installed it already
[09:01] <Dashell> isn't Skype in the software center?
[09:01] <OerHeks> marus, see the java page, howto select the java you want https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java
[09:01] <k1l> aliman: see the link the bot mentioned
[09:01] <marus> OerHeks: i have see that
[09:01] <marus> OerHeks: do i have to remove openjdk befor installing oracle java?
[09:01] <Dashell> im going to restart and see if anything happens, brb
[09:01] <OerHeks> marus, no, not as far as i know
[09:02] <marus> OerHeks: okay that help, thanks
[09:02] <aliman> ubottu, why do i need that recording stufF? i have a prob with the input my contacts cant hear me
[09:03] <k1l> aliman: you dont need that recording stuff
[09:04] <aliman> yeah well ubo gave me 2 links 1 for installing skype (i did that already) and 2 something for recording (i dont need it)
[09:04] <k1l> aliman: so what do you want to do with skype.sh?
[09:04] <aliman> i need something to make my mic work and my contacts hear me
[09:04] <k1l> aliman: what is the issue?
[09:05] <leeyaa> hello
[09:05] <leeyaa> is there any package that can allow me to enable iptables extensions for a kernel that does not have them enabled ?
[09:05] <Dashell> !paste
[09:05] <leeyaa> i need string module
[09:05] <aliman> i found some howto on help ubuntu webpage. my mic isnt working k1l. my contacts cant hear me when i call them
[09:06] <aliman> and from there i got that skype.sh
[09:06] <Dashell> okay I think i figured out the problem
[09:06] <Dashell> http://imgur.com/CV83Jrq
[09:06] <Dashell> i screencapped the error when it showed up, the screen is still pushed to the right, but it must be because of that
[09:07] <cfhowlett> Dashell, mint?
[09:07] <Dashell> ubutu
[09:07] <Dashell> *ubuntu sorry
[09:07] <cfhowlett> Dashell, it SAYS mint
[09:07] <mekia> hello everyone i am running Ubuntu studio and the sound drops for no reason i am running on a mac mini dual booting manjaro linux
[09:08] <Dashell> it's ubuntu 14.10, i just upgraded
[09:08] <Dashell> where does it say Mint?
[09:08] <cfhowlett> Dashell, lower left is the mint icon. and that is NOT ubuntu.
[09:08] <codepeak> Umm.. Just installed a fresh minimal installation of Ubuntu 14.04 LTS… And php5-fpm is missing?
[09:08] <Dashell> well Cinnamon is usually used for mint, right?
[09:08] <Dashell> d oyou want me to switch to Lubuntu?
[09:09] <somsip> codepeak: not installed as default
[09:09] <leeyaa> Dashell: lol at your desktop
[09:09] <EriC^^> Dashell: is this a vm?
[09:09] <Dashell> no it's not a VM
[09:09] <Dashell> it's... just my computer
[09:09] <codepeak> somsip: Yeah, I know… But doing a apt-cache search fpm doesn’t find it either… Is it in some other apt repo?
[09:09] <somsip> !find fpm
[09:09] <codepeak> !find fom
[09:09] <codepeak> !find fpm
[09:09] <Dashell> leeyaa, that's Maud :D
[09:09] <leeyaa> codepeak: apt-cache search php | grep fpm
[09:10] <leeyaa> it should be available
[09:10] <Dashell> ill switch to lubuntu
[09:10] <somsip> codepeak: the bot is a bit slow today. So php5-fpm
[09:10] <leeyaa> yeah its php5-fpm
[09:10] <codepeak> leeyaa: yeah, i know. tried it, done it thousands of times… but no results are given. just cgi
[09:10] <leeyaa> codepeak: check your repos
[09:10] <leeyaa> maybe they are messed up
[09:10] <somsip> codepeak: apt-get update?
[09:10] <EriC^^> Dashell: i get that error in some vms
[09:11] <leeyaa> anyone on my iptables question ?
[09:11] <Dashell_> never mind, i can't switch because i can't hit the thing in the upper right corner to switch
[09:11] <aliman> ok i cannot find a solution for my problem
[09:11] <EriC^^> Dashell: i get that error in some vms
[09:11] <codepeak> leeyaa: yeah, looking through them now and comparing to older installations of 14.04 to see what’s missing. maybe it’s the image my vps provider using that has done something :)
[09:11] <leeyaa> codepeak: i can give you my default sources list
[09:11] <leeyaa> it has php5-fpm for sure
[09:12] <leeyaa> without external ppas
[09:12] <Dashell_> is there a way to switch desktops without being able to go into the right corner?
[09:12] <leeyaa> Dashell_: terminal
[09:12] <leeyaa> set a shortcut or something
[09:12] <codepeak> leeyaa: you have a running 14.04 installation and could share your sources.list file?
[09:13] <codepeak> leeyaa: hmm… i wonder if it’s the extras that’s missing..
[09:13] <somsip> !info php5-fpm
[09:13] <codepeak> universe… hmm
[09:13] <somsip> codepeak: in universe ^^^
[09:14] <leeyaa> codepeak: https://bpaste.net/show/ac0c41c1d037 this "should" be exactly default, but i am not 100% sure
[09:14] <Dashell_> oh, thanks
[09:14] <leeyaa> dont mind the 12.04 at the top
[09:14] <codepeak> finally!
[09:14] <codepeak> Thank you very much! :)
[09:14] <codepeak> universe ftw :)
[09:15] <mekia> hello everyone i am running Ubuntu studio and the sound drops for no reason i am running on a mac mini dual booting manjaro linux
[09:16] <Dashell_> permission denied even though I'm root
[09:20] <Ben64> Dashell_: permission denied doing what
[09:20] <Dashell_> im trying to switch desktops using the terminal
[09:21] <Ben64> what are you typing
[09:21] <Dashell_> cause my screen m ove to the right and i can't see anything on the right side, there's a blank on the left
[09:21] <Dashell_> lemme find what i was looking at
[09:21] <Ben64> wait you're on mint?
[09:21] <Dashell_> i did /usr/share/lightdm/lightdm.conf.d/*.conf
[09:21] <Dashell_> no
[09:21] <Dashell_> im using ubuntu
[09:22] <Dashell_> i just upgraded to ubuntu 14.10
[09:22] <Dashell_> i've been using lubuntu up until today when I tried to go back to cinnamon but things went downhill from there
[09:23] <Ben64> "/usr/share/lightdm/lightdm.conf.d/*.conf" isn't a command
[09:23] <Dashell_> i thought switching desktops might help i guess
[09:23] <Dashell_> oh yeah
[09:23] <Dashell_> i need the actual file name don't I?
[09:23] <Ben64> ...no
[09:23] <k1l> leeyaa: ask your hoster if it blocks the kernel modules
[09:23] <Dashell_> i was reading this
[09:23] <Dashell_> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LightDM#Change_the_Default_Session
[09:23] <k1l> Dashell_: just choose lubuntu on the login screen
[09:23] <Ben64> thats not what you said you were trying to do
[09:23] <Dashell_> i can't
[09:23] <leeyaa> k1l: im my own hoster
[09:24] <k1l> why you cant? because you are on mint?
[09:24] <k1l> or using mint ppas?
[09:24] <leeyaa> dom0 has that module, just domU kernel doesnt
[09:24] <Dashell_> no becuase my screen moved to the right
[09:24] <Dashell_> im not using mint
[09:24] <leeyaa> because it is not enabled it seems
[09:24] <leeyaa> i mean not build int
[09:24] <Dashell_> i dunno if im using mint ppas
[09:24] <Dashell_> lemme try to log out again, hang on
[09:25] <Dashell> sorry about that
[09:25] <Dashell> but yeah my screen move to the right
[09:25] <luc4> Hello! When in VT it seems there is no automount of usb disks. Any idea whether it is possible to enable it?
[09:29] <Dashell> what?
[09:29] <Dashell> oh that wasn't me
[09:29] <Dashell> okay so this is what i'm talking about here: http://s13.postimg.org/ikyolvtdz/100_2674.jpg
[09:29] <Dashell> that's y screen, i can't get to anything on the right
[09:30] <k1l> Dashell: its not loading your video driver. i dont know if its the driver or the cinnamon from some ppa.
[09:31] <Dashell> okay so... i mean we could rule out cinnamon if I could get to another desktop... right?
[09:31] <k1l> Dashell: yes. log out. and choose the other desktop on the login screen, if it wasnt a mint anyway. then go back to their support
[09:31] <Dashell> okay, if i log out, the screen is still to the right
[09:32] <Dashell> the log in screen is the same thing, it's pushed to the right, so I can't go to the right upper corner to select the other desktops
[09:32] <Ben64> its not in the corner
[09:32] <Dashell> it's not?... weird, it is for me
[09:32] <k1l> Dashell: its not the upper right corner. so you are not using a ubuntu.
[09:32] <Ben64> maybe you're on mint?
[09:32] <Dashell> but i... just upgraded to ubuntu 14.10
[09:33] <Dashell> the only thing I did was install Cinnamon, it even loads up and says "Lubuntu"
[09:33] <cfhowlett> Dashell, upgraded from WHAT? exactly
[09:33] <Dashell> ubuntu 14.04
[09:33] <Dashell> i was using Lubuntu until today, then I saw Cinnamon came out with a new version that you could add to ubuntu
[09:33] <Dashell> so I tried it
[09:33] <Ben64> how
[09:33] <k1l> Dashell: please pastebin "lsb_release -d" , " cat /etc/apt/sources.list" and "ls -al /etc/apt/sources.list.d"
[09:34] <Dashell> http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2014/11/install-cinnamon-2-4-ubuntu-14-04-lts
[09:34] <Dashell> Description: Ubuntu 14.10
[09:35] <cfhowlett> dashell so PPA confirmed ...
[09:35] <Dashell> http://pastebin.com/TQ6p04pz
[09:36] <cfhowlett> Dashell, also, you DID see this right? "If you favour stability you should not upgrade to Cinnamon 2.4 in Ubuntu yet."
[09:37] <Dashell> i saw people saying it was working fine so I just trusted them
[09:37] <cfhowlett> Dashell, and yet it say, RIGHT THERE ... :)
[09:37] <Dashell> well fine
[09:37] <Dashell> so ... what do I do?
[09:38] <k1l> Dashell: "ls -al /etc/apt/sources.list.d" in a pastebin please
[09:38] <Dashell> i know
[09:38] <Dashell> for some reason every time i try to paste it it desn't work
[09:39] <Dashell> it literally will not let me copy it
[09:39] <Dashell> it's like i'm in a nightmare
[09:39] <cfhowlett> Dashell, sudo apt-get install pastebinit then it automagically pastes. e.g. dpkg -l | pastebinit will paste up a url
[09:40] <k1l> Dashell: "ls -al /etc/apt/sources.list.d | pastebinit" after pastebinit is installed
[09:40] <Dashell> cool
[09:40] <Dashell> thanks
[09:40] <Dashell> http://pastebin.com/TQ6p04pz
[09:42] <k1l> Dashell: wrong url
[09:43] <Dashell> http://paste.ubuntu.com/10760091/
[09:45] <jjavaholic> http://pastebin.com/0Ngivipr
[09:45] <chotaz`work> Anyone knows of a good alternative to Caffeine-Plus or Caffeine? Apparently Caffeine-Plus is not working on buuntu 14.10
[09:47] <OerHeks> chotaz`work, did you install caffeine-plus from ppa? https://launchpad.net/~nilarimogard/+archive/ubuntu/webupd8/+packages
[09:48] <k1l> Dashell: from the description of the cinnamon you use: This PPA contains nightly builds for the Cinnamon desktop environment. /!\ WARNING : Nightly builds are unstable, use only for debugging purposes /!\ Supported releases : Trusty
[09:48] <Dashell> oh no, i must have downloaded the wrong thing
[09:49] <Dashell> everything happened so fast
[09:49] <cfhowlett> Dashell, this thread gets better and better :)
[09:49] <chotaz`work> OerHeks, Yep, I've followed the Webupd8 tut on adding caffeine-plus. Maybe the fact im using MATE?
[09:49] <OerHeks> jjavaholic, what do you want us to do with that pastebin?
[09:49] <k1l> Dashell: "sudo ppa-purge ppa:gwendal-lebihan-dev/cinnamon-nightly"
[09:50] <OerHeks> chotaz`work, maybe it is not suitable for mate, i don't know
[09:50] <Dashell> although honestly, it was acting up BEFORE i tried this, so... im not sure if this'll help but here goes
[09:50] <jjavaholic> help me understand what is going on there
[09:50] <OerHeks> jjavaholic, beats me, it does not show what you try to do
[09:51] <OerHeks> !details | jjavaholic
[09:51] <jjavaholic> open a new tab in firefox
[09:52] <jjavaholic> then load youtube video
[09:52] <jjavaholic> which crashes
[09:52] <k1l> Dashell: after the relogin do a "pastebinit /var/log/Xorg.0.log"
[09:52] <iptable> jjavaholic, GPU driver issue? it's screaming about opengl
[09:53] <iptable> jjavaholic, what graphics card do you have and how did you install the drivers for it?
[09:53] <jjavaholic> nvidia 9800GT nvidia-331
[09:54] <MLLLLL> hi
[09:55] <chotaz`work> !touch
[09:56] <jjavaholic> I have been having hardware acceleration problems ever since 14.04
[09:57] <edition> how can I install the Intel HD Graphics driver for xubuntu?
[09:57] <iptable> jjavaholic, did you / how did you install drivers for it?
[09:57] <cfhowlett> edition, what ubuntu do you have
[09:57] <iptable> edition, Intel uses open driver, it's already there
[09:58] <Dashell> okay can you tell me the thing to paste bin again?
[09:58] <Dashell> btw, this is my log in page, it has always looked like this: http://s22.postimg.org/5s1qx3dxd/100_2675.jpg
[09:59] <Dashell> pastebinit /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[09:59] <Dashell> whoops, sorry
[09:59] <BlueMagma> Hi, I am conducting a study about source control, I would like you to answer a few question about source control, It will only take a few minutes and it would greatly help me : http://goo.gl/forms/S65zeCKXNj
[09:59] <k1l> Dashell: after the relogin do a "pastebinit /var/log/Xorg.0.log"
[09:59] <edition> the quality of HD movie playback in VLC is inconsistent.
[10:00] <Dashell> http://paste.ubuntu.com/10760260/
[10:00] <k1l> Dashell: [ 22.312] (EE) Failed to load module "fglrx" (module does not exist, 0)
[10:00] <OerHeks> BlueMagma, please don't poll in here, this is ubuntu support only
[10:01] <k1l> BlueMagma: better ask that in #ubuntu-offtopic
[10:01] <Dashell> well there we go
[10:01] <k1l> Dashell: sudo apt-get install --reinstall fglrx
[10:01] <k1l> Dashell: and put all the output into a paste again.
[10:01] <BlueMagma> OerHeks: Ho, sorry, I didn't know, I will ask it there. Thank you
[10:01] <iptable> edition, define inconsistent
[10:02] <Dashell> http://pastebin.com/wpGNfhaf
[10:02] <k1l> Dashell: ppa-purge that cinnamon ppa like i said
[10:02] <Dashell> i did :(
[10:02] <Dashell> i did it like you said and it started up in some minimum thing
[10:03] <k1l> that obviously went wrong.
[10:03] <k1l> "sudo apt-get purge cinnamon"
[10:03] <edition> well, its laggy to say the least, and the player drops frames. I found that the playback was improved by resizing the video using ffmpeg to 720x1280.
[10:04] <k1l> Dashell: if you dont tell us whats going on (or wrong) or show us the exact output we guess that all is going right.
[10:04] <Dashell> okay here's the problem
[10:04] <Dashell> i got the same error message, probably because im running in some minimal form of cinnamon
[10:04] <Dashell> this >>http://s22.postimg.org/5s1qx3dxd/100_2675.jpg is my log in screen, the way to change desktops has always been in the top right corner
[10:05] <k1l> Dashell: what command did you use and what was the output and error?
[10:05] <edition> CPU Info: http://www.pasteall.org/57705
[10:06] <iptable> edition, 1. what CPU, how much RAM you have, 2. is this video on local drive or goes via some net, 3. free -m - for free ram?, 4. uptime - what's the load avg., 5. lsmod |grep -i "intel|3d|accel"
[10:07] <Dashell> okay so once again it will not let me copy for some reason so here
[10:07] <iptable> edition, 6. does it happen if you run that video on a stock ubuntu (which you can boot from liveCD/liveUSB)
[10:08] <Dashell> http://s21.postimg.org/pftvni1p3/Screenshot_from_2015_04_07_05_06_57.png
[10:08] <Dashell> and the second part http://s23.postimg.org/6c22rkcsb/Screenshot_from_2015_04_07_05_07_20.png
[10:09] <k1l> Dashell: "sudo apt-get purge cinnamon*"
[10:09] <edition> Intel Celeron, Dual Core, 2.13 GHz. 4GB RAM. Local drive. load average: 0.27, 0.27, 0.20. grep -i "intel|3d|accel" finds nothing from lsmod.
[10:10] <edition> 2053 free.
[10:10] <Dashell> http://pastebin.com/Wp5ZRyzh
[10:10] <mllll> what is defference between ubuntu and lubuntu?
[10:10] <iptable> Dashell, have you tried apt-get -f install, as suggested?
[10:10] <cfhowlett> !flavors | mllll
[10:10] <k1l> !lubuntu | mllll
[10:10] <iptable> mllll, ubuntu is ubuntu with unity UI shell, lubuntu uses LXDE UI
[10:10] <k1l> Dashell: "sudo apt-get purge cinnamon* gir1.2-muffin-3.0 nemo "
[10:11] <Dashell> unable to lock the administartion directory (var/lib/dpkg), are you root? i get that error
[10:11] <iptable> edition, RAM + CPU use during video playback please
[10:11] <k1l> Dashell: holy moly. that is going to be more difficult than it should have been from the start
[10:11] <mllll> tanks
[10:11] <iptable> edition, I believe your problem is playing mp4 high encoded videos on dual-core celeron, not the graphics driver, but it's just a guess atm
[10:12] <Dashell> i am root though
[10:12] <Dashell> that's ... why I'm so confused, i installed this myself
[10:12] <edition> It was encoded from my Canon Powershot G16 camera.
[10:12] <k1l> Dashell: do you have other terminals open? or the software center?
[10:12] <Dashell> i've never had a problem like this before
[10:12] <iptable> edition, encoded as what?
[10:12] <iptable> edition, vod/mp4/m4v/avi/h.264?
[10:12] <Dashell> i had two at the time of the last thing I posted
[10:12] <Dashell> now i have 0
[10:13] <k1l> try again
[10:13] <edition> h264 and aac
[10:13] <Dashell> nope, the same thin, I'm sorry kll
[10:13] <iptable> edition, h264 IS heavy.Do you have problems playing other videos? like for example divx/xvid?
[10:13] <iptable> edition, please provide full lsmod in pastebin and load averages + ram use while playing videos.
[10:13] <Dashell> maybe I should just start over from scratch
[10:13] <edition> ok
[10:14] <iptable> edition, lspci as well please
[10:15] <buntuer> greetings ubuntuers
[10:15] <buntuer> how are you
[10:15] <buntuer> i have a simple question
[10:15] <buntuer> if someone can help
[10:15] <iptable> buntuer, ask
[10:15] <buntuer> i updated ubuntu from 12 to 14
[10:16] <OerHeks> buntuer, all in one line please
[10:16] <iptable> buntuer, and stop pressing ENTER every half sentence please!
[10:16] <buntuer> and now i'm not able to list files on the other paritions
[10:16] <buntuer> I'm sorry
[10:16] <iptable> buntuer, how are you trying to list files? what other partitions? are they mounted?
[10:17] <buntuer> yes the nautilus is able to see all the files but not in the terminal
[10:17] <yossarianuk> hi is 15.04 going to run unity8 by default ?
[10:17] <buntuer> in terminal i'm using this command cd /media/DRIVE\ 2/
[10:17] <OerHeks> yossarianuk, no, unity 7.4 AFAIK
[10:18] <iptable> buntuer, so you are trying to browse shares mounted by nautilus in command prompt?
[10:18] <edition> http://www.pasteall.org/57706
[10:18] <buntuer> yes exactly i was able to do it with the older version of ubuntu before update and since i updated 14 it sucks
[10:18] <yossarianuk> OerHeks: cheers - so does that mean 15.10 will have it as default ?
[10:19] <buntuer> when i make ls in DRIVE 2 it list nothing at all
[10:19] <yossarianuk> buntuer: In my experience use dolphin (the KDE file manager) for accessing network shares (it works in unity also..) - this may not be popular here....
[10:20] <buntuer> i thought that using gksudo nautilus and change the permissions for the drives to my user name will fix the situation but it didn't
[10:20] <OerHeks> buntuer, try: ls -la # to show all files for all users
[10:20] <iptable> edition, is Valley View even 3d-accelerated? looks like you are running HW that is slightly too old for latest h264 encodes. try older divx/xvid .avi videos, see if you can play those, to confirm.
[10:21] <buntuer> this is what i get bash: cd: /media/DRIVE 2/ls: No such file or directory
[10:21] <buntuer> ohh sorry i get this drwxr-xr-x 2 ergu ergu 4096 Apr 6 12:06 .
[10:21] <buntuer> drwxr-xr-x 6 root root 4096 Apr 7 11:46 ..
[10:22] <k1l> yossarianuk: no
[10:22] <k1l> yocapybara: no decision yet when unity 8 with MIR will be defailt
[10:22] <k1l> *au
[10:22] <k1l> yossarianuk: ^
[10:23] <OerHeks> 15.10 is too far away to tell
[10:24] <buntuer> any idea guys?
[10:25] <yossarianuk> OerHeks: k1l: thanks - i was under impression 15.04 was having unity 8... I know its not really ready for desktop usage so glad its not the dfault at present...
[10:25] <OerHeks> buntuer, ah, you have a space in the drive name?
[10:25] <OerHeks> buntuer, i really never understood that space in name thing.
[10:25] <buntuer> it doesn't matter
[10:26] <OerHeks> buntuer, yes it does, cd /media/DRIVE 2 does not work
[10:26] <iptable> buntuer, cd /media/DRIVE\ 2
[10:26] <OerHeks> buntuer, cd "/media/DRIVE 2" maybe
[10:26] <buntuer> cd /media/DRIVE\ 2/
[10:26] <buntuer> this works
[10:27] <yossarianuk> End of April is going to be a busy month - 15.04 (ubuntu + kubuntu - I run both) and Debian 8 ....
[10:29] <chotaz`work> Anyone has any suggestion regarding alternatives to Caffeine-Plus?=
[10:30] <chotaz`work> yossarianuk, i know right, I just finished setting up my machine(ubuntuMATE) and will have to fresh install again in a few weeks :(
[10:31] <Dashell> i guess it's late
[10:31] <Dashell> so i should go
[10:31] <Dashell> i appreciate those who tried to help
[10:33] <yossarianuk> chotaz`work: you could always upgrade....
[10:33] <yossarianuk> (one of the benefits of being debian based.....)
[10:33] <chotaz`work> yossarianuk, haven't really had a clean upgrade ever..
[10:34] <arcsky> does this mean reboot?
[10:34] <arcsky> [email protected]
[10:34] <arcsky> M +46 73 2365 346
[10:34] <zetheroo> In Ubuntu 14.04 does one still have to edit the smb.conf file to get file sharing to work between Ubuntu and Windows machines?
[10:34] <arcsky> ups
[10:34] <arcsky> i mean sudo restart
[10:35] <iptable> zetheroo, you can use the GUI
[10:36] <zetheroo> For example... I have 2 Ubuntu 14.04 laptops here on the home network - both have their Public folders shared via the right-click menu (Sharing Options), but when going to browse the network neither of the laptops are visible to each other
[10:36] <zetheroo> I tried using that Samba config GUI tool but that doesn;t work either
[10:36] <zetheroo> shares are created but computers cannot see one another in the Network browsing
[10:37] <iptable> zetheroo, how about the official method: right-click on a directory, click "Sharing", tick the "share" tickbox
[10:37] <iptable> zetheroo, forget about browsing, from windows connnect to \\1.1.1.1 (replace with IP of your linux box)
[10:37] <m1dnight_> guys, I just noticed that my ssh config file always points to the public key on my client side
[10:37] <zetheroo> iptable: that the aforementioned method I used ... "Sharing options" in the right-click menu ... no!?
[10:37] <m1dnight_> shouldnt this be the private key?
[10:38] <iptable> zetheroo, to connect from ubuntu to windows, connect to location "smb://1.1.1.1" (still, replace location
[10:38] <iptable> zetheroo, and the bit when I said forget about browsing network, connect straight to IP?
[10:39] <iptable> zetheroo, forget about browsing, from windows connnect to \\1.1.1.1 (replace with IP of your linux box)
[10:39] <zetheroo> iptable: I shouldn't have to input the IP address every time ... no!?
[10:39] <iptable> zetheroo, please try it to see if sharing works!?!
[10:39] <iptable> zetheroo, makes sense to troubleshoot one thing at a time, no?
[10:39] <zetheroo> ok
[10:40] <edition> yes, the playback is improved for videos using the AVI format.
[10:41] <zetheroo> iptable: with trying with the IP I get some Dbus error
[10:41] <zetheroo> Mountpoint already registered
[10:41] <iptable> zetheroo, I thought you are connecting from windows to ubuntu share?
[10:41] <zetheroo> no
[10:41] <zetheroo> Ubuntu and Windows machines on the network
[10:42] <iptable> zetheroo, so why are you sharing a directory on ubuntu if you are not connecting to an ubuntu share?
[10:42] <zetheroo> (12:36:09 PM) zetheroo: For example... I have 2 Ubuntu 14.04 laptops here on the home network - ....
[10:42] <iptable> zetheroo> In Ubuntu 14.04 does one still have to edit the smb.conf file to get file sharing to work between Ubuntu and Windows machines?
[10:42] <iptable> if we are bout to quote
[10:42] <iptable> ok, so you want to share between 2 ubuntu machines?
[10:42] <iptable> no windows anymore?
[10:42] <zetheroo> yes, and then I went on to ask about an example of using 2 Ubuntu machines ...
[10:43] <zetheroo> But the same issue is there with Windows and Ubuntu on the same network as well
[10:43] <iptable> zetheroo, you need to decide what you want help with
[10:43] <iptable> zetheroo, can you try to connect to ubuntu share from a widnows machine, by going to \\IP on windows?
[10:43] <zetheroo> well, these machines cannot see each other Ubuntu to Ubuntu or Windows to Ubuntu or Ubuntu to Windows
[10:44] <zetheroo> for now I am dealing with the 2 Ubuntu machiens
[10:44] <iptable> zetheroo, see each other?
[10:44] <zetheroo> should be the easiest to get going ... I would think
[10:44] <iptable> zetheroo, can they ping each other?
[10:44] <zetheroo> In browsing for Network devices
[10:44] <zetheroo> ping works
[10:45] <iptable> zetheroo, ok, please do me a favour. forget about network browsing. please. that's another part, not smb itself, to advertise the machine. you need to get the network shares to work first. and navigate by IP to make sure they do work.
[10:45] <zetheroo> I keep reading people saying one has to still edit that smb.conf file ... but I cannot believe that is still the case now ..
[10:45] <iptable> zetheroo, once that works, we can play with network discovery, which is something else altogether
[10:46] <iptable> zetheroo, right-click and share a directory on one ubuntu machine. on another one, in nautilus, navigate to smb://IP
[10:46] <zetheroo> but this is where I have trouble ... because this is supposed to work for people who are all about right-click and share ... no!?
[10:46] <iptable> zetheroo, yes, works for me
[10:47] <zetheroo> ok, that works ...
[10:47] <zetheroo> smb://IP/
[10:47] <zetheroo> gets me to the machine and all the shares
[10:47] <iptable> zetheroo, so you cna browse shares, can you go to that shared dir and see it?
[10:47] <iptable> zetheroo, i.e. can you actually access a share?
[10:47] <zetheroo> yes
[10:48] <iptable> zetheroo, ok, so sharing works.
[10:48] <iptable> zetheroo, I can't remember which, but a completely another component is needed for network SMB discovery
[10:49] <zetheroo> ok
[10:49] <zetheroo> the strange thing is that for some Linux machines Net discovery seems to work right away
[10:49] <iptable> zetheroo, nmbd
[10:49] <zetheroo> like I have another Lubuntu 14.04 laptop and it's on the network
[10:50] <zetheroo> actually 2 Lubuntu laptops and both are on the network everywhere ... Windows and Linux
[10:50] <iptable> zetheroo, make sure nmbd is installed and works. also make sure that DNS settings are the same, as network discovery dependso n bcast name resolving
[10:51] <zetheroo> Unable to locate package nmbd
[10:51] <iptable> zetheroo, nmbd is the process...
[10:52] <iptable> zetheroo, is it running?
[10:52] <Dashell> hey is kll still here?
[10:52] <dadu> hmmm
[10:53] <zetheroo> status shows : nmbd start/running, process 2065
[10:53] <Dashell> well if kll comes back, i fixed the screen issue
[10:53] <zetheroo> its running on both Ubuntu 14.04 laptops
[10:53] <Dashell> finally logged out of cinnamon, still having graphic problems but... at least now I can read everything
[10:53] <zetheroo> iptable: ^
[10:54] <iptable> zetheroo, do you have a firewall enabled on those?
[10:54] <zetheroo> iptable: both Ubuntu 14.04 laptops can see other machines on the network ... just not each other
[10:54] <iptable> zetheroo, you need Wins and NetBIOS for network discovery to work
[10:54] <zetheroo> iptable: not that I know of
[10:54] <zetheroo> iptable: I didn't set anything up ... is there a default one?
[10:54] <iptable> zetheroo, they can see each other, they are just not advertising the shares to the network
[10:55] <iptable> zetheroo, check with iptables -L -vn. any rules?
[10:55] <baracude> hi
[10:55] <iptable> zetheroo, also, check smb.conf to ensure that public=yes and browsable=yes in the share configs
[10:56] <bogdan> hi guys. i have a little issue. i downloaded google chrome from its website and i wanted to install it with software center. i press install and i see the installation progress but when is done insteed of showing me remove button it shows me install. like it is not installed yet. but if i search for google chrome in dash i can see it there
[10:56] <zetheroo> iptables: http://paste.ubuntu.com/10760736/
[10:56] <OerHeks> bogdan, known issue, happened here too, chrome deb succesfully added their ppa.
[10:57] <OerHeks> bogdan, don't worry, have fun
[10:57] <zetheroo> iptables: I was afraid i would have to look at that file :D
[10:57] <iptable> zetheroo, check smb.conf to ensure that public=yes and browsable=yes in the share configs ; THEN check that smb.conf has WINS server enabled. Welcome to Microsoft protocols, where you need cifs, wins, netbios to work :/
[10:57] <Eightynine> Hi. Yesterday I got update to Gnome 3.12 and package manager showed that there are packages that not needed anymore(they were Gnome 3.10 packages). I wrote apt-get autoremove as package manager said, no bugs but Update manager disappeared. It's not handy to go to terminal to install updates every time. How to fix it?
[10:58] <bogdan> can you pls tell me what that means? chrome deb succesfully added their ppa? what is ppa? sry dont get upset but im new with linux i just installed it for the 1st time
[10:58] <iptable> zetheroo, in any case, sharing works, and machines see each other as you can access them via IP. Only network discovery/advertising doesn't work. that's different.
[10:58] <zetheroo> iptables: where should what be changed? http://paste.ubuntu.com/10760744/
[10:58] <iptable> bogdan, ppa is a very nice ubuntu way of storing 3rd-party dependencies
[10:58] <iptable> blah
[10:59] <iptable> bogdan, ppa is a very nice ubuntu way of storing 3rd-party packages/repositories
[10:59] <OerHeks> bogdan, the .deb from the google site is just a ppa, not the actual chrome. this behaviour is a bug, but not a real error.
[10:59] <Eightynine> PPA is something like user's repository from where you can install software.
[10:59] <zetheroo> sharing is only as good as the access to the share ... :P
[10:59] <iptable> zetheroo, ctrl+f, seach for "wins" :P
[10:59] <bogdan> ah ok guys thx. if i restart my laptop and log in again should it disappear?
[10:59] <iptable> zetheroo, wins support = no, change to yes, uncomment
[10:59] <zetheroo> # wins support = no
[10:59] <zetheroo> ok
[11:00] <OerHeks> bogdan, no need to restart i guess
[11:00] <bogdan> OerHeks, ok thx
[11:00] <Eightynine> What about my question?
[11:00] <zetheroo> iptable: so basically samba still is in need of a comprehensive GUI management tool ...
[11:01] <iptable> zetheroo, also, at the end under eery share: [Pictures] [Videos] etc, that you created, uncomment (or add if required) browseable = yes AND public = yes (2 lines, public an browseable)
[11:01] <iptable> zetheroo, not really, most people just use ip to connect
[11:01] <zetheroo> ah ok
[11:01] <iptable> an bookmark it
[11:01] <iptable> no need to use network places. bookmarks are so much better
[11:02] <kokut> Hello, i used to be able to access my windows machine in the network but now i can't it says "Unable to access location: Failed to retrieve share list from server: Connection timed out." Is there anything i can do?
[11:02] <iptable> zetheroo, once edited, service smbd restart ; service nmbd restart
[11:02] <iptable> or whatever they are called
[11:02] <zetheroo> iptable: really? but with DHCP networks IP's can change all the time ...
[11:02] <iptable> zetheroo, they normally don't.
[11:03] <iptable> zetheroo, machines that run out of DHCP will ask for lease again and will normally get the same IP. Most routers have sticky IPs on DHCP as well for machines that are off overnight.
[11:03] <zetheroo> iptable: I get a lot of people over from Windows to Linux ... and usually over to Ubuntu ... and it's once of the nagging issues they face most of the time ..
[11:03] <zetheroo> just simply sharing from one machine to another - via the GUI
[11:04] <iptable> zetheroo, ay, windows people wanting to move to linux and still use their windows ways
[11:04] <bogdan> OerHeks, i found out that infact that thing is really an error
[11:04] <zetheroo> iptables: well yes :)
[11:04] <bogdan> OerHeks, my chrome wont start cuz of an unespected error
[11:04] <iptable> zetheroo, it works, just need IP or local name (if your router supports names for dhcp)
[11:04] <iptable> zetheroo, I can connect to most my shares using the machine names instead of IP as well
[11:05] <zetheroo> as soon as I say to then "well you have to go edit that config file" or "you have to manually enter in an IP to get it to work" they are like ... "WHAT!?!?"
[11:05] <zetheroo> It's a bit archaic really
[11:05] <iptable> zetheroo, and that's what I would tell them to do, not to rely on brose windows network. between ubuntu and ubuntu, they should probably use scp/sftp/webdav for sharing too, cifs/smb is windows tbh
[11:05] <iptable> zetheroo, or nfs, windows supports it too, but then they could not right-clik and click share
[11:05] <zetheroo> by now Ubuntu should really have a fully comprehensive solution for network sharing without the need to mess in the terminal
[11:06] <iptable> zetheroo, uhm, my linux users, when I tell them that they can't just copy files between 2 machines using a proxy in between with a single ssh command , are like, what? what's archaic really
[11:06] <chotaz`work> How do I create a "shortcut" to a specific folder to use in terminal? Example: instead of 'gedit /etc/apache2/sites-available/somesite.conf' id like to use something shorter for the folder path
[11:06] <zetheroo> yeah, NFS is not cool either for starter users ...
[11:06] <iptable> zetheroo, but now windows should have a comprehensive solution
[11:07] <rblst> hello all, i have a mobile internet modem that creates a wired network, but it is disabled (greyed out) in NetworkManager, 12.04 LTS; how to enable it?
[11:07] <iptable> chotaz`work, alias something="something longer"
[11:07] <bogdan> if i do sudo apt-get autoremoveit will remove all the files that i dont need?
[11:07] <zetheroo> iptable: Windows sharing works pretty well. (Windows 7 at least)
[11:07] <iptable> bogdan, theoretically
[11:07] <MonkeyDust> chotaz`work use ln -s to create a symbolic link of the file you want to edit
[11:08] <bogdan> iptable, so it wont harm anything that command
[11:08] <chotaz`work> MonkeyDust, thanks but iptable's solution seems to be more fititng, as I want to ease the access to the folder itself and not the file.
[11:08] <iptable> zetheroo, when you can connect to an scp/sftp share from windows out of the box, you can complain that ubuntu's cifs/smb windows sharing implementation doesn't work properly :P
[11:08] <StanDarsh> zetheroo: I feel you dawg.
[11:08] <iptable> bogdan, it shouldn't
[11:08] <zetheroo> iptable: no but it's about Ubuntu/Linux sharing in general
[11:08] <iptable> zetheroo, yes, it would be nice if it was enabled b default, but it's not. they can use their machine names, IPs, or another sharing solution
[11:09] <iptable> zetheroo, or create a script that will magically fix it for them
[11:09] <iptable> zetheroo, or they can use owncloud/dropbox like most people nowadays
[11:09] <zetheroo> iptable: I wouldn't really care about samba if there was a comprehensive GUI solution for NFS
[11:10] <zetheroo> Ubuntu/Linux is still far behind Windows and MacOS in this regard IMHO ... and Linux is supposed to be the king at networking on top of that :D
[11:11] <itry> Hello! I have a cheap web hosting account that seems to be accessible via https but has no trusted certificate. It uses some generic certificate of the hosting company. Is it safe to access it from an interenet cafe? I know the IP is correct.
[11:11] <iptable> zetheroo, you are failingto see the point. windows cannot browse scp shares. windows is behind
[11:11] <iptable> zetheroo, let's add apple devices to equasion
[11:11] <zetheroo> iptable: but home users don;t care about SCP
[11:11] <iptable> zetheroo, linux is not behind, it does things differently. live with it, or create a workaround
[11:11] <zetheroo> and Ubuntu is primarily for Desktop users
[11:11] <iptable> zetheroo, my mom uses scp to copy pictures to me!
[11:12] <iptable> zetheroo, over internet!
[11:12] <zetheroo> iptable: and she set it up herself?
[11:12] <iptable> an she is a nursery supervisor
[11:12] <zetheroo> smart mom ;)
[11:12] <iptable> zetheroo, I told her how to
[11:12] <zetheroo> yep
[11:12] <iptable> zetheroo, but then again, I had to tell her how to browse windows shares as well
[11:12] <zetheroo> and that's over the Internet ... so that makes sense
[11:13] <iptable> zetheroo, not a single one of those users figured out how to browse windows shares, they were told. enough of this now please
[11:13] <iptable> zetheroo, more on
[11:13] <iptable> zetheroo, windows is behind with over internet sharing :P
[11:13] <zetheroo> ok, but I am not talking about Internet sharing
[11:13] <zetheroo> just simple home networks
[11:13] <iptable> zetheroo, enough
[11:13] <zetheroo> would be great as a start :)
[11:13] <littlebit> hi poeple, how do I include variables like $1 in executing shell comands in my shell script?
[11:14] <MonkeyDust> idd, there's no gui for nfs, been seaching a bit
[11:14] <hateball> littlebit: I think #bash is a better place to ask
[11:14] <littlebit> ok
[11:14] <hateball> littlebit: Assuming you are writing for bash, that is
[11:14] <zetheroo> MonkeyDust: let me know when/if you find something :D
[11:15] <zetheroo> MonkeyDust: I have been dealing with the same networking scenario in Ubuntu since 2006 .. when I switched to Ubuntu ...
[11:16] * iptable goes to get a coffee
[11:17] <MonkeyDust> zetheroo this guy is a bit cynical: "Gee, NFS requires only TWO lines of configuration - one line on the server and one line on the client. That is why there aren't any wizards for it, since wizards just make it more difficult... "
[11:17] <zetheroo> HA!
[11:17] <zetheroo> :D
[11:18] <zetheroo> Some people forget that there is a HUGE world out there of people who have never configured anything in a command prompt or config file .... but, right, GUI's make life harder ... they say :D
[11:20] <MonkeyDust> zetheroo this is the most recent page I found, if it's not yours, you could your name: https://bugs.launchpad.net/nautilus/+bug/1397545
[11:20] <MonkeyDust> could add*
[11:24] <iptable> fine, I'll code an NFS GUI
[11:25] <iptable> you want it as an embedded-light-webserver-page-GUI or as a gnome-one?
[11:25] <iptable> should not be hard to ask for 2 locations with a brose button :/
[11:26] <zetheroo> awesome ... :)
[11:26] <zetheroo> Unity/Gnome I would prefer
[11:26] <iptable> zetheroo, ping me by end of April
[11:26] <zetheroo> haha ... for real?
[11:27] <iptable> why not
[11:27] <zetheroo> I dunno ... if it were that easy why hasn't it already been done?
[11:27] <iptable> it won't look super flashy. I am in no way a graphics designer
[11:27] <iptable> cause no one could be bothered?
[11:27] <iptable> it's a simple file-alteration with service-restart
[11:28] <zetheroo> ok - I would rather a GUI that sorts out the samba options in detail though :D
[11:28] <zetheroo> like enable WINS without editing the config
[11:30] <iptable> zetheroo, for that you don't need a GUI. you just need a daemon that monitors the smb.conf file and fixes if/as required when it changes
[11:31] <iptable> zetheroo, please check and confirm which option change in smb.conf makes it work for you and I'll code a workaround daemon for you
[11:31] <iptable> zetheroo, once you know which options, PM (private-message) me and I'll glue it for you when I am back in front of my machine. Leave contact details if you are not on IRC most of the time.
[11:32] <StanDarsh> I think zetheroo is thinking that it's backward to be forced to edit a config file rather than select radio buttons in a GUI.
[11:32] <StanDarsh> Would have a hard time disagreeing with that.
[11:32] <zetheroo> iptable: thanks ... still trying to get it working actually ...
[11:33] <iptable> StanDarsh, well, tbh, I agree that if you are doing cifs shares via GUI, but default network discovery via netbios should be enabled, not disabled. I can build a workaround.
[11:33] <iptable> StanDarsh, then again, we should encourage people to learn how their computers works
[11:34] <zetheroo> to get the net discovery to work do I need to reboot the machiens?
[11:34] <iptable> zetheroo, cool. I'm off for a break then. PM once you fiure it out (browsable|public setting OR the wins server setting OR all of them needed)
[11:34] <StanDarsh> We indeed should, and that's one of the strengths of linux in general. I just think that they're not going to learn much less if they select options iwthin a familiar GUI rather than have to use config files.
[11:34] <iptable> zetheroo, you need to restart smbd and nmbd services
[11:35] <zetheroo> ok, I restarted both services and nothing still ...
[11:35] <zetheroo> going to reboot to be sure ... :P
[11:35] <zetheroo> bbs
[11:36] <iptable> StanDarsh, "Users are Losers" ... took me a while to figure out it refers to drugs when I saw it on the back of a car :P
[11:36] <StanDarsh> hah
[11:38] <iptable> how about a dedicated webdav server with a nice sharing GUI to add on top for sharing? that would work a treat and windows 7+ supports it
[11:39] <zetheroo> rebooted both machines ... still not seeing each other in Nautilus > Network
[11:40] <hateball> iptable: like ownCloud then
[11:41] <iptable> hateball, well, kinda. I use owncloud at home and work, but what for users who just want to share between each other and are too dumb to connect without a "browse network" option?
[11:41] <Ben64> rtt min/avg/max/mdev = 1.655/7.330/60.591/8.698 ms
[11:41] <Ben64> shouldn't ping time to router be better than that...
[11:41] <Ben64> whoops, wrong channel, sorry
[11:42] <iptable> Ben64, yes it should, that's disgraceful ;)
[11:42] <iptable> hateball, owncloud has it's own issues, mainly with video streaming and large file handling
[11:43] <iptable> zetheroo, in any ways, you need to figure out how to make NetBIOS (nmbd) advertise smbd (cifs/samba) shares. the shares themselves work!
[11:43] <iptable> zetheroo, that's where my knowledge ends. let me know what worked and I will build a mass-deploy workaround for you. I;m off to fix a openstack deployment
[11:44] <zetheroo> ok tks
[11:47] <emilsp> hello, why is ubuntu so shit ? Why does it want to remove gnome-shell and ubuntu-desktop when I try to purge bluez ?
[11:48] <emilsp> why does pulseaudio have a strong depenency on bluez when it's running on a machine without any bluetooth adapters ?
[11:48] <cfhowlett> !guidelines | emilsp, no profanity in this channel.
[11:49] <emilsp> cfhowlett, well, then, can anyone help me resurrect pulseaudio daemon ?
[11:49] <Exagone313> !resurrect pulseaudio daemon
[11:50] <emilsp> but I am serious, why is the bluez package a strong depenendency for gnome ?
[11:51] <Exagone313> can you paste the output of the command you tried?
[11:52] <emilsp> E: [pulseaudio] bluetooth-util.c: org.bluez.Manager.GetProperties() failed: org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.AccessDenied: Rejected send message, 2 matched rules; type="method_call", sender=":1.261" (uid=51182 pid=8955 comm="pulseaudio ") interface="org.bluez.Manager" member="GetProperties" error name="(unset)" requested_reply="0" destination="org.bluez" (uid=0 pid=1094 comm="/usr/sbin/bluetoothd ")
[12:00] <svalo> hello everybody, I'd like to know id there's a way to install ubuntu without creating a user, I have a ldap auth system with /home mounted remotely
[12:05] <Fuchs> svalo: technically yes, you could set up things like sssd during install or modify a live system to do that, but it is a massive pain in the rear end
[12:05] <Fuchs> svalo: especially since I assume you have to take the machine into the directory before you can authenticate against ldap (is that an active directory?) anyway, so having a local user at first helps
[12:06] <mrwheels> #ubuntu-mate
[12:08] <svalo> Fuchs, thanks, yes I should setup few things before I can authenticate, including the script that mounts the partition
[12:08] <Fuchs> svalo: we here (active directory, sssd, ...) use a local admin user that has a name which isn't in the LDAP (else you'll have loads of fun) that we use to initially take the machine into the directory / set up kerberos etc.
[12:09] <emilsp> svalo, yeah, we use a tester-local user on all machines
[12:09] <Fuchs> svalo: it would be possible without, but it's a massive pain in the rear and I honestly can't recommend it. But it is feasible. We use a slight ubuntu respin which at least already provides the needed packages, of course you could put a configuration on it as well. If you use kerberos as well, you need a keytab though. And I wouldn't recommend either auto-creating nor distributing that.
[12:11] <Fuchs> svalo: if you want to automate it: I know it is possible, the Uni here did it, but it's a bit painful. The biggest issue is usually the machine keytab, which needs either a domain admin or at least someone with admin rights on the OU you put the machine in. The rest is rather easy to distribute via a ubuntu respin (and, I recommend, your own custom repo which is activated in that respin)
[12:11] <svalo> Fuchs, emilsp, ok, I was reading about oem install that sounds interesting, the only downside woul'd be to disable the user wizard that appears after installing ubuntu. I don't have kerberos auth
[12:12] <Fuchs> svalo: the machine tab could be done if you used something like forman or cobbler to set the machines up, or something like ansible/salt/puppet to provide machine configurations. But still: it will be a bit of a pain
[12:12] <svalo> Fuchs, ok so I'll opt for normal installation and then remove the user and relative home folder....
[12:12] <BluesKaj> Hiyas all
[12:13] <svalo> Fuchs, thank you :)
[12:13] <Fuchs> svalo: I'd recommend that, yes. You're welcome :)
[12:17] <baum> newbie question: should i install software i want to keep updated via the repos? (like the JRE for example)
[12:18] <ANJ7> BluesKaj: heya o/
[12:18] <BluesKaj> hi ANJ7
[12:18] <BluesKaj> baum, yes
[12:19] <baum> BluesKaj: alright thanks
[12:26] <ANJ7> hey I'm infected by a virus :9
[12:27] <ANJ7> BluesKaj: can you help me?
[12:27] <BluesKaj> ANJ7, how do you know?
[12:27] <ANJ7> my friend just gave me a file which spreads on windows
[12:28] <ANJ7> like a worm in every folder
[12:28] <ANJ7> and I opened it in my ubuntu, it's call system_32.exe
[12:28] <zetheroo> ok, I have done a full purge of samba on both these laptops ... then reinstalled ...
[12:28] <ANJ7> I don't know how and why it worked on ubuntu
[12:28] <zetheroo> enabled WINS in smb.conf .. restarted the services ... but still no luck
[12:29] <ANJ7> BluesKaj: I think its the work of wine
[12:29] <zetheroo> does it take a certain amount of time for net discovery to work?
[12:29] <zetheroo> :P
[12:30] <ANJ7> how can I uninstall wine?
[12:32] <MonkeyDust> ANJ7 like you would uni,stall any other program
[12:32] <BluesKaj> ANJ7, most if not all windows viruses won't run on linux IME, they can ainfect other windows machines on you LAN, not equipped with decent anttivirus apps , as far as wine is concerned I don't know
[12:32] <ANJ7> the worm actually gets inside all the folder and creates a duplicate name
[12:33] <ANJ7> of the foldername.exe
[12:33] <BluesKaj> ANJ7, best to purge wine
[12:33] <MonkeyDust> ANJ7 and yes, system32 is the core of windows
[12:33] <ANJ7> now I find it everywhere
[12:33] <ANJ7> I'm uninstalling wine now
[12:34] <ANJ7> MonkeyDust: its not a file its a worm which gets into folders and creates its copies
[12:36] <ANJ7> how can I delete all the *.exe files in my file system
[12:38] <MonkeyDust> ANJ7 type /j #winehq and ask there
[12:38] <momomo> Is there a way to get unity to stop group same application in the task switcher? ALT + TAB ?
[12:38] <ANJ7> but I want it to do using ubuntu terminal
[12:39] <ANJ7> like rm *.exe
[12:39] <ANJ7> which searches in every folder and file and delete and file which contains .exe
[12:39] <davevanloo> greetings all, i have a relative new system and ubuntu does not seem to like it all that much, before instalation in both ubuntu and kubuntu it tells me the installer crashes, then manually launching the installer in the live envirement works, however i am now faced with another issue.., i have 2 900 series cards in SLI, and whenever i install the drivers for them, ubuntu fails to make use of them and presents me with a black screen, in re
[12:39] <davevanloo> covery removing them puts me back into default x drivers
[12:40] <Meinskur> Hi, anyone here that Can help me install Ubuntu on my old laptop WITHOUT A LIVE USB!
[12:40] <MiDOZAlayyoubi> @Meinskur Sure
[12:40] <Meinskur> I try to google search but all I see is "with live USB"
[12:40] <BluesKaj> ANJ7, http://superuser.com/questions/494951/how-to-recursively-remove-all-exe-files-from-all-the-subdirectories-of-the-curr
[12:40] <Meinskur> awesome
[12:40] <Meinskur> is it recommended to use UNetBootin
[12:40] <Meinskur> ?
[12:40] <geirha> ANJ7: find . -type f -name "*.exe" -exec echo rm {} + # minus the echo
[12:40] <MonkeyDust> ANJ7 would be something like find / -name "*.exe" -exec rm {} \;
[12:41] <BluesKaj> Meinskur, do you have a cdrom ?
[12:41] <Meinskur> I do, but is there no way to just install it without the use of a CD or USB?
[12:43] <davevanloo> Meinskur, not that i know off.., getting a 1g or 2g usb should not be to hard.., perhaps you have a phone with a sd card? in the past i managed to use its card as a usb drive and install it that way
[12:43] <zen_> something with chrome on linux is seriously broken, copy paste crashes!
[12:43] <zen_> happens with me and all of my colleagues
[12:44] <Meinskur> I do have a USB stick that is 4GB at the ready, But I've had some problems in the past with installing that way.. maybe I'll just have to try again :/
[12:44] <baum> is it advicable to install java like that? http://www.webupd8.org/2014/03/how-to-install-oracle-java-8-in-debian.html
[12:44] <pbx> tried to use shift+home as a keyboard shortcut and got this message. it doesn't make sense to me, any hints? http://dpaste.com/3NWNECS
[12:44] <MonkeyDust> zen_ how can copy paste crash?
[12:44] <zen_> copy-paste crashes chrome
[12:45] <zen_> and atom editor which is based on chrome
[12:45] <Meinskur> so, what is the easiest way to make a USB installation?
[12:45] <pbx> zen_, copy and paste are two different operations. which one crashes chrome? copying or pasting where exactly?
[12:45] <MonkeyDust> !details | zen_
[12:45] <Meinskur> I've allready downloaded Ubuntu 14.04.2 ISO
[12:45] <ANJ7> MonkeyDust: find / -name "*.exe" -exec rm{} \; will the files in the filesystem be removed? or all the files in my HDD?
[12:46] <MonkeyDust> ANJ7 / is the file system
[12:46] <ANJ7> oh, ok
[12:46] <ANJ7> my destop also is infected now
[12:46] <zen_> okay, sorry, i will return with detailed "how to reproduce"
[12:46] <zen_> i just wanted to check if this already is recorded, as it affects 10 people in my office
[12:46] <ANJ7> it has Desktop.exe
[12:48] <cfhowlett> ANJ7, delete /home/anj7/.wine
[12:49] <ANJ7> finally all the exe file got deleted thanks MonkeyDust and BluesKaj
[12:50] <BluesKaj> ANJ7, yw
[12:50] <ANJ7> seriously I never thought it would infect me in ubunut
[12:50] <ANJ7> ubuntu*
[12:51] <ANJ7> but because of that useless wine. I had to be infected
[12:52] <JustSighDudes> Guys I have a weird situation
[12:52] <JustSighDudes> I have a samba dir mounted on my computer. But the computer keeps counting the files in that directory against its own hard drive space
[12:52] <JustSighDudes> e.g hard drive is 80G, so 70GB in the Samba drive and it starts doing all the weird no space on disk stuff
[12:58] <leftyv> exit
[13:01] <cfhowlett> !test
[13:07] <rprakash> #openstack-meeting
[13:09] <yorwos> if i wanted to install an email server , would it be best to install it on my ubuntu desktop 14.04 , or make ubuntu serber install in virtualbox ?
[13:14] <yorwos> ill try ubuntu offtopic
[13:15] <BluesKaj> yorwos, that won't help
[13:15] <davevanloo> @yorwos if you plan on using the system while the server is running.. i would still recomend not doing it in virtual box.. its still all together a slightly higher drain on your system then it would be without..
[13:18] <emilsp> yorwos, if you want to use virtualization, use qemu, virtualbox's overhead is way too big.
[13:21] <yorwos> can i host it in cloud maybe ?
[13:22] <emilsp> yorwos, you can, but why do you want to do that ?
[13:22] <emilsp> I personally run 'small server apps' on a defunct laptop
[13:23] <yorwos> im just wondering how can i have and use an email without belonging to google,yahoo,hotmail,whatever
[13:24] <Meinskur> got stuck while installing ubuntu :8
[13:24] <Meinskur> :8
[13:24] <Meinskur> :(
[13:24] <knob> Meinskur, install again
[13:25] <knob> emilsp, looking at qemu... didn't know it existed
[13:25] <Meinskur> But I'm not 100% sure if it's stuck or it's working :i
[13:25] <eksperimental> hy guys. does anybdy have experience with cgroups? i have a problem with a configuration, one control group is sucking up all my swap and ram memory
[13:25] <zetheroo> I want to be able to see the other Ubuntu 14.04 laptop on the Network in Nautilus ... how does one get this to happen?
[13:27] <emilsp> knob, qemu is so nice, especially because of libvirtd and all the nice userspace tools.
[13:27] <Meinskur> how do I cancel the installation when it's stuck (ubuntu)
[13:27] <emilsp> Meinskur, at what stage has it stuck ?
[13:27] <emilsp> Meinskur, if you haven't done anything to the partitions yet, just reboot
[13:28] <Meinskur> i just alloctated drive space, and it got stuck when I pressed "install Now"
[13:28] <emilsp> did you allocate or did you already start writing partition data to the drive?
[13:29] <Meinskur> I think I just allocated (new to linux and OS installations)
[13:29] <emilsp> then you should be safe to reboot
[13:29] <emilsp> but before you do, press ctrl+alt+F1 or whichever f button
[13:30] <Meinskur> ok, ctrl+alt+f1 did something
[13:30] <Meinskur> I have a command screen thing now
[13:30] <Meinskur> not sure what it's called
[13:30] <emilsp> if you see a terminal, type top and see whether or not there is a process that's taking up a lot of cpu and memory
[13:31] <emilsp> since you switched to a different tty, your system isn't totaly hung up yet :)
[13:31] <Meinskur> root seems to take around 30%
[13:32] <emilsp> root is the user name, what's the process name ?
[13:32] <Meinskur> not sure how I see that
[13:32] <Meinskur> How to I get back out of this?
[13:32] <emilsp> type q
[13:32] <emilsp> and you should be able to see that in top
[13:33] <Meinskur> q: command not found
[13:33] <emilsp> oh, how to get back to the gui installation ? ctrl+alt+f7 or f8
[13:34] <Meinskur> hmm... I don't know how I see the name of the process
[13:35] <emilsp> maybe the resolution is too low, so you must use arrow keys to move to the left
[13:35] <Meinskur> the resolution don't seem to low, I can see the whole screen
[13:36] <emilsp> yes, but if you run top in the terminal, you should be able to see the command names on the leftmost collumn
[13:36] <Meinskur> PID?
[13:36] <emilsp> sorry, rightmost collumn, COMMAND
[13:36] <Meinskur> OH! xD
[13:36] <Meinskur> i'ts called Xorg
[13:37] <Meinskur> and ntfsresize
[13:37] <emilsp> so you're already resizing your windows partition and this will take a while
[13:37] <Meinskur> oh, so it's not "stuck" it's just working?
[13:38] <emilsp> thus under no circumstances should you reboot, because you most likely will lose data
[13:38] <emilsp> Meinskur, hopefully :)
[13:38] <Meinskur> I don't care to keep any data that I had on my laptop
[13:38] <Meinskur> but I just did an along side installation just in case
[13:38] <emilsp> well, then you could've just nuked the windows partition, but anyways, resizing partitions usually takes a lot of time, thus you're better off waiting this one out
[13:39] <Meinskur> awesome, I'll wait it out then :)
[13:39] <Meinskur> will you be here for a while?
[13:39] <emilsp> yes
[13:40] <Meinskur> awesome, I'll report back if nothing happends or something awesome takes place
[13:40] <Meinskur> :3
[13:40] <emilsp> good luck then
[13:40] <Meinskur> thanks for the help
[13:41] <davevanloo> greetings all, a little while ago I posted my problem with installing drivers for my nvidia 960 cards, and i was wondering if any 1 has had the time to look into it.., as i was/am freshly out of idea's
[13:42] <ubuntuser13> Gtk-WARNING **: Locale not supported by C library. using the fallback 'C' locale. unable to test app in my Language.please help.
[13:43] <emilsp> I am pretty sure you'll have to wait for ubuntu to update their drivers, using 'nonrepo' drivers will break your system upon kernel users.
[13:43] <Meinskur> hmm...
[13:43] <davevanloo> @emilsp was this pointed at user13? or me? :)
[13:44] <emilsp> you, davevanloo
[13:44] <Meinskur> I just noticed that the allocation GUI shows Windows 7, But i have windows Vista on here, not sure if that does matter or not
[13:44] <emilsp> Meinskur, doesn't matter, the bootloader thinks my girlfriend has vista, whilst she's using windows 7, they're just too similar
[13:44] <Meinskur> awesome
[13:45] <davevanloo> @emilsp would correctly building the drivers provided by the nvidia website perhaps work? as according the them they should be able to drive my cards
[13:45] <zetheroo> I finally found out what is needed in smb.conf to get this going :D
[13:45] <Meinskur> IT WASN'T STUCK!! :d
[13:46] <emilsp> devanloo, yes, for the time being, but you'll have to make sure you rebuild the drivers every time you get a kernel update
[13:46] <emilsp> sorry, davevanloo, screwed up your name
[13:47] <davevanloo> ooh yes.. i had read about that.. emilsp , its annoying to do.. having to exit the x-server to do so.. its disorienting when trying to do on the fly aswel! but then again.. everything pc.. preparation is key! ^
[13:48] <emilsp> davevanloo, well, it is rather simple, actually, and well, when I was doing it, I didn't kill the X server, I just reran the install script provided by Nvidia and it worked. You just have to remember to do it after a kernel update.
[13:48] <emilsp> otherwise you'll be left with a dark shell upon the next reboot and you'll have to install the driver again.
[13:49] <davevanloo> mhmm, i did try building it manually on my old system and it failed, exually both with and without the xserver started.., that was before i found out about the apt-get ***-current way of installing it
[13:49] <davevanloo> ops forgot name emilsp
[13:50] <emilsp> don't worry :) well, I haven't used ubuntu in a while, at least I haven't had to upgrade nvidias drivers on ubuntu for a while, so things might've changed.
[13:50] <olle> hi, i am looking for the #backbox channel
[13:50] <olle> Can someone point me in the right direction
[13:50] <emilsp> davevanloo, I remember I had to make sure that the new kernel headers are actually there.
[13:51] <davevanloo> mhmm, still rather noobish about some linux/ubuntu things, could you explain a bit more on how to make sure my kernel headers are ecrtually there?
[13:52] <davevanloo> emilsp ^
[13:52] <emilsp> davevanloo, check sudo apt-get install linux-headers and select your current version
[13:53] <emilsp> davevanloo, I am sure there should be some documentation from ubuntu on how to use 'out of tree'/out of repo nvidia drivers
[13:53] <zetheroo> iptables: you around perchance?
[13:54] <davevanloo> oke.., feeling really noobish for asking..,but better then fra**ing up, how do i find my version?
[13:55] <emilsp> davevanloo, don't feel bad about yourself just because you don't know something, and installing headers won't hurt you, but the correct command is uname -a
[13:55] <davevanloo> 3.16.0-30-generic it is :)
[13:56] <cxy> 能看见中文吗
[13:57] <cxy> /？
[13:57] <cfhowlett> !cn | cxy
[13:57] <davevanloo> @emilsp great, i already have the newest header version, so im all set for that.., downloaded the drivers.. and will attempt a install right after having cooked dinner, il hang around and come back to yah if i frack up hehe :)
[13:58] <emilsp> davevanloo, ok, bon appetit
[14:03] <zh1> whats the lightest distro of ubuntu of them all?
[14:04] <cfhowlett> zh1, server
[14:04] <headkase> zh1: Lubuntu, followed by Xubuntu.
[14:05] <zh1> cfhowlett, desktop
[14:05] <zh1> yes was thinking on lubuntu too
[14:05] <EriC^^> zh1: lubuntu and mate probably
[14:06] <EriC^^> never tried mate, but i think it's supposed to be pretty light
[14:06] <headkase> zh1: I'm very partial to Xubuntu because I really like XFCE. 15.04 will have the new released version too.
[14:07] <zh1> i need something that minimum ram i can have and with a desktop environment
[14:07] <headkase> EriC^^: Mate is a forked GNOME 2 so pretty well anything will run that.
[14:07] <zh1> *uses
[14:07] <zh1> headkase, i usually run xfce too but this case i need to do a vm to run some cisco software
[14:08] <emilsp> zh1, i3
[14:08] <headkase> zh1: I just installed regular old Ubuntu 14.04.2 LTS today, typing on it now. Of course my system isn't constrained.
[14:09] <Ragu> I have a small client application which frequently writes data to a file. Suddenly we notice DRDY errors in the HDD and we see some data loss till we solve that error and we wanted to avoid the data loss by exiting the application. Is there anyway that i can send DRDY signal directly to my client application so that i can close the application ..
[14:09] <EriC^^> zh1: lu uses about 500mb
[14:09] <zh1> emilsp, how much ram will ubuntu+i3 use when i finish boot with nothing open
[14:09] <EriC^^> *lubuntu
[14:10] <zh1> lubuntu here wont take more than 200mb when i log in
[14:10] <xangua> you could also buy more ram, if that is what you lack/need
[14:10] <headkase> zh1: You should probably post some specs, so people know what you're working with.
[14:10] <zh1> cant buy unfortunately, old pc
[14:11] <emilsp> zh1, next to nothing, i3 is pretty light
[14:11] <emilsp> zh1, xorg will take up more memory than i3
[14:11] <zh1> emilsp, yes but i never tried it, i think gonna give it a go, but i have to install it and remove lxde, right?
[14:13] <emilsp> zh1, I think your best bet would be to install ubuntu-minimal and then install only the stuff you need, if you want to be frugal
[14:13] <zh1> emilsp i'm trying the lowest i can get cause i only wanna use 500mb and still use cisco packet tracer
[14:13] <BluesKaj> emilsp, if you're talking about an intel i3 cpu, I have full kubuntu OS installed on my i3 laptop and it runs quite fast , also has 8GB RAM
[14:14] <majornikku> ^even on a celeron with 1gb it runs pretty fast
[14:14] <zh1> emilsp i will need a desktop environment of some sort i guess
[14:14] <emilsp> BluesKaj, I am talking about a window manager
[14:14] <emilsp> zh1, you'll need a window manager, a desktop environment is heavy
[14:15] <zh1> emilsp will cisco packet tracer run with just a win manager?
[14:15] <emilsp> zh1, yes
[14:15] <zh1> ok, that case have i can use i3 or other
[14:15] <EriC^^> is i3 similar to fluxbox? i hear about it alot
[14:15] <EriC^^> as well as awesome wm
[14:16] <BluesKaj> emilsp, ok
[14:16] <emilsp> EriC^^, it's a tiling window manager, but it is easy to use and configure
[14:16] <emilsp> zh1, remember to use/install dmenu
[14:16] <EriC^^> emilsp: does it have tabs?
[14:17] <xangua> water¿ you drink water¿
[14:17] <zh1> emilsp, the one thats gives me less stress to install will be perfect cause in the end of the day vm is out
[14:17] <emilsp> EriC^^ it can have tabs. zh1, i3 is pretty painless, at least that was my experience with it
[14:17] <Sebe579> HELLO
[14:17] <EriC^^> blackbox doesn't have tabs O.o xangua
[14:18] <zh1> emilsp, ubuntu+i3+dmenu my best choice?
[14:18] <emilsp> zh1, well, imho, yes
[14:18] <Sebe579> hello?
[14:18] <emilsp> Sebe579, hello
[14:19] <zh1> emilsp do u know twm?
[14:20] <emilsp> zh1, nope
[14:23] <SebePlays> I got a question
[14:24] <SebePlays> hoe do you create a channel?
[14:24] <Fuchs> SebePlays: http://blog.freenode.net/2008/04/registering-a-channel-on-freenode/
[14:24] <Fuchs> SebePlays: that is more something for #freenode than for this channel, mind
[14:24] <Fuchs> (make sure to read it carefully, especially the part about http://freenode.net/policy.shtml#channelnaming)
[14:32] <somsip> SebePlays: /join #mynewchannel
[14:34] <netan> hi all, I have a minimal install of ubuntu but have difficulties to find information about what is included,
[14:35] <lotuspsychje> !minimal | netan
[14:36] <netan> .. for example I want to be notified then security updates are available, are that something included ? how do I install something like that ?
[14:36] <orion> Hi. What's the difference between ebs and ebs-ssd in the UEC images?
[14:36] <netan> lotuspsychje, I already run a disk in virtualbox
[14:37] <bparker> when I try to eject an SD card through the file manager, it warns me that data is still being written (I doubt it but whatever), and to not unmount it yet. but then when you click ok, it unmounts it anyway. What's going on?
[14:38] <bparker> if data were still being written, how can it unmount it?
[14:38] <bparker> and a lot of times I will notice the busy light keeps blinking on the card reader for about a minute or so after it unmounts... so if it's still writing even after it's "unmounted", how do I know when it's safe to disconnect?
[14:40] <cgenius> Hi Ppl ... can someone tell me an effect WPA Hacking method and were i can get the documentation
[14:41] <lotuspsychje> cgenius: no hacking topics in this channel here
[14:41] <somsip> !info sync | bparker
[14:41] <cgenius> lotuspsychje: okay may you please advise were to go
[14:41] <lotuspsychje> !alis | cgenius
[14:41] <somsip> bparker: http://ss64.com/bash/sync.html
[14:43] <ioria> bparker, try with another sd card, and see if happen the same
[14:45] <somsip> bparker: so basically, you run sync and if it completes you're good.
[14:45] <digitsm> Hello dudes
[14:46] <digitsm> I want an (official) PPA to install (and update in future) the Telegram client for Ubuntu
[14:46] <digitsm> I found this :
[14:46] <digitsm> https://launchpad.net/~atareao/+archive/ubuntu/telegram
[14:46] <digitsm> Is this PPA updating enough?
[14:46] <somsip> digitsm: all PPAs are unofficial (except mainline kernel maybe)
[14:47] <digitsm> somsip, Yeah I know, but someone of them update very fast, and sometimes made by developers of the main software
[14:48] <somsip> digitsm: you can check the maintainers of a package on launchpad, and compare them to the PPA maintainer to see if that's the case
[14:48] <somsip> *an offical package...
[14:48] <cgenius> lotuspsychje: Thanks for your help much appreciated
[14:49] <SebePlays> GUYS PLEASE CHECK OUT MY CHANNEL #Freddy-Fazbear
[14:49] <lotuspsychje> cgenius: did you solve?
[14:49] <SebePlays> Its EPIC
[14:49] <lotuspsychje> SebePlays: no advertising here
[14:50] <digitsm> somsip, Hmmm. Thanks ;)
[14:50] <cgenius> lotuspsychje: Not really ... Im Wondering do i type the /msg text in this Panel or what
[14:51] <cgenius> lotuspsychje: Sorry to be a bother .. its just that im new to HexChat so still need to familiarize myself with it
[14:52] <SchrodingersScat> !alias | cgenius
[14:52] <SchrodingersScat> er
[14:52] <SchrodingersScat> !alis | cgenius
[14:52] <digitsm> somsip, Thanks you very much. This PPA is what I needed. Thanks for help
[14:52] <digitsm> :)
[14:54] <cgenius> okay now i get the drift .. Thanks alot guys
[15:04] <Seramon> hi all
[15:04] <x85> firefox's text is tiny
[15:05] <x85> i have ubuntu intstalled on a 13" mbp
[15:05] <Seramon> can i check with you guys if i have my machine on dual boot ubuntu and windows, but my windows not working well, should i install wine on my ubuntu?
[15:06] <x85> Seramon: it depends on what applications you use as they may not run under wine
[15:07] <Seramon> i want to run a MT4 trading client
[15:07] <Seramon> but just now when i attempt to install wine, it says i have to remove the perl library
[15:08] <Seramon> is the perl library important??
[15:08] <cross`> hey guys from here gave me a solution from that site: http://pinoy-computing-tips.blogspot.com/2010/08/how-to-fix-ubuntu-error-no-init-found.html I download Ubuntu Live Desktop CD and click Try Ubuntu. Got now Gnome and Terminal. I'm trying to do fsck but it still says that the /dev/sda is ine use. When I choose partition /dev/sda5 it does nothing :/
[15:12] <thegrreat> Hello
[15:13] <thegrreat> Where is the OS codes for launchpad placed ?
[15:13] <Guest45682> quit
[15:13] <Pici> thegrreat: What do you mean by OS codes?
[15:13] <thegrreat> System codes
[15:14] <EriC^^> do you mean the repository list?
[15:14] <Pici> thegrreat: or source code? or what?
[15:14] <thegrreat> I would like to see the code for launchpad
[15:14] <thegrreat> SO i would like to know where the launchpad source code is placed on ubuntu
[15:15] <EriC^^> why would there be a launchpad source code on ubuntu?
[15:15] <thegrreat> I cant explain, I just want to see the codes for the launchpad..
[15:15] <Pici> thegrreat: I'd expect to see of of it in https://launchpad.net/launchpad, anyway #launchpad exists and it would be the best place to ask about its source.
[15:16] <thegrreat> ok thanks pici
[15:21] <narcislinux> I have Asus TAICHI 21 laptop, how can i use of both screen at the Same time?
[15:22] <naftilos76> How can i get the in or out traffic volume in mbytes/sec by typing a command in a linux terminal?
[15:22] <EriC^^> naftilos76: ifconfig
[15:22] <naftilos76> I am not talking about iftop or other tools that have to be started and stay on for some time so that they can calculate the traffic. I am talking for a single command that executes once and returns the traffic in any unit going out or in.
[15:22] <EriC^^> naftilos76: ah you mean the rate not the downloaded already
[15:22] <naftilos76> yep
[15:23] <naftilos76> i gues i have to take 2 samples and calc the difference?
[15:23] <naftilos76> EriC^^?
[15:23] <EriC^^> you could, no idea if there's a better way
[15:23] <naftilos76> What do you think?
[15:23] <naftilos76> ok thanks
[15:26] <thegrreat> Im already inlove with ubuntu ^^
[15:26] <EriC^^> naftilos76: found this on google awk '/eth1/ {i++; rx[i]=$2; tx[i]=$10}; END{print rx[2]-rx[1] " " tx[2]-tx[1]}' <(cat /proc/net/dev; sleep 1; cat /proc/net/dev)
[15:27] <EriC^^> naftilos76: askubuntu.com/questions/450604/how-to-get-the-current-upload-and-download-speeds-in-terminal
[15:27] <naftilos76> oh
[15:29] <naftilos76> Thanks man, i ll just do that with ruby
[15:34] <naftilos76> EriC^^: Much easier with ruby => `cat /proc/net/dev`.split("eth0")[1].split[1] for RX or [9] for TX
[15:34] <naftilos76> thanks again
[15:36] <thegrreat> If i would like to code terminal script what do i start with ?
[15:36] <genii> !cli
[15:36] <thegrreat> Quite new to coding in ubuntu
[15:37] <somsip> !bash | thegrreat
[15:37] <compdoc> you might look into bash programming. lots of examples out there, and not hard to learn
[15:37] <PCatinean> Hey guys I just installed the extra utils thing and I till can't play .avi files
[15:37] <PCatinean> Anyone know why?
[15:38] <EriC^^> naftilos76: nice, no problem
[15:39] <pbx> PCatinean, give a package name and/or url for "extra utils thing"
[15:39] <PCatinean> phx, it's ubuntu-restricted-extras
[15:39] <thegrreat> Will look into bash programming
[15:39] <PCatinean> and I also ticked the download while installing when I installed ubuntu
[15:40] <pbx> PCatinean, also, i believe .avi is just a wrapper so it's possible you're trying to play one for which you don't have the needed codec. with a media example url others could try
[15:40] <PCatinean> Okay, granted that's possible, then what is the solution?
[15:42] <somsip> PCatinean: what video player are you using?
[15:42] <PCatinean> somsip, the default one that comes with ubuntu
[15:42] <MiDOZAlayyoubi> MiDOZAlayyoubi, yes you can do that
[15:42] <MiDOZAlayyoubi> MiDOZ, yes
[15:42] <somsip> PCatinean: no idea what that is. Try VLC as it can cope with anything I've ever thrown at it
[15:42] <PCatinean> I don't want to change the player that's pretty much it
[15:44] <n2dam> hi
[15:52] <Rory> Is there a better pattern to use than: for host in $(cat ips); do something; done
[15:53] <Rory> using cat there seems wrong somehow
[15:59] <Guest46650> #ubuntu
[16:01] <dv__> are you guys always speechless?
[16:01] <BluesKaj> dv__, ask a question and find out :-)
[16:03] <dv__> Thanks BluesKaj I'm Just new here and wondering
[16:04] <aladiah> Ubuntu 14.10 is compatible with blutooth 4.0 ? I cant find my nokia E63. I think the blueman isnt working properly. How to checkup this ?
[16:06] <epinky> hello
[16:07] <epinky> I've got trouble with some equipment
[16:10] <b3n_123> Hello Ubuntu Channel .. need help here
[16:10] <jpds> !ask | b3n_123
[16:11] <Kaby> aladiah, bluetooth on 14.10 is working properly
[16:11] <aladiah> i could use this command in Lubuntu 14.10 to reinstalll bluetooht ? sudo apt-get install bluetooth blueman bluez-hcidump bluewho python-bluez bluez-tools
[16:12] <aladiah> Kaby what you think about usinh this ? sudo apt-get install bluetooth blueman bluez-hcidump bluewho python-bluez bluez-tools
[16:12] <b3n_123> is it possible to move java sdk to a different partition (non-linux partition) ? the last time I tried it, I always get permission denied or can't locate java when trying to run java .. so to fix it was to re-install java again ..
[16:12] <Zoohouse> Hello everyone. Anyone here use qcomicbook? I installed it a while ago and it's doing something strange. It fills my directories with folder called qcomic-?????????, ? meaning a digit. Also, any ods files in the directory that the qcomic-????????? appears are deleted. Thank goodness I had everything backed up. Is this a serious bug in the qcomic program or something more serious?
[16:13] <Zoohouse> To add to what I said, the qcomic-????????? seem to show up where I have ods files.
[16:19] <Kaby> lol register your nicks
[16:22] <b3n_123> anyone can answer my question?
[16:23] <ikonia> b3n_123: bad ide
[16:23] <ikonia> idea
[16:23] <Kaby> b3n_123 what quest ?
[16:23] <b3n_123> not possible?
[16:24] <ikonia> b3n_123: not really
[16:24] <Zoohouse> !patience | b3n_123
[16:24] <ikonia> less so if managed via the package manager
[16:24] <Edico> hi
[16:24] <ikonia> b3n_123: why would you even want to do this ?
[16:24] <Kaby> hi Edico
[16:24] <b3n_123> because in the event Ubuntu gets corrupted, I still have my sdk ..
[16:25] <area51pilot> does anyone know where the bluetooth device pairings are stored?
[16:25] <ikonia> b3n_123: the sdk is just a package
[16:25] <ikonia> you can re-download it in seconds
[16:25] <ikonia> that makes no sense
[16:25] <genii> b3n_123: The main problem with moving linux binary files to a non-linux partition is the properties of the files cannot always be preserved, depending upon the filesystem you are moving it to. So for instance the system will no longer know that the files are able to be executed as programs. Also file ownership may also come into play.
[16:26] <b3n_123> yes I also experienced that ownership problem .. and executable files became non-exec when I moved sdk to other partition .. so I will not do it again then
[16:27] <b3n_123> but what filesystem does it support (moving such files like sdk) ?
[16:27] <ikonia> b3n_123: why are you doing this ?
[16:27] <ikonia> b3n_123: you are creating a problem
[16:28] <b3n_123> I'm doing this to free more linux spaces
[16:28] <b3n_123> just thinking if it's possible
[16:28] <ikonia> b3n_123: it is a bad idea
[16:28] <ikonia> do not do it
[16:28] <ikonia> there are other things to move
[16:28] <Edico> I have a problem with my /home/.cache directory . it's continously increasing in size and now it occupies the entire space. I also checked in my processes and gzip makes files there
[16:29] <ikonia> Edico: it's using what it needs
[16:29] <Edico> /home/.cache/upstart
[16:29] <ikonia> thats not a valid path
[16:29] <aladiah> HOw i need to install the right driver to make my bluetooth work ? How i know ?
[16:29] <ifonly> which is a nice photo printing app? also what happened to gnome-photo-print?
[16:29] <b3n_123> so if I'm going to develop, say java in Eclipse, can I use non-linux partition to save those projects?
[16:30] <ikonia> b3n_123: yes,
[16:30] <ikonia> b3n_123: again - why are you doing this
[16:30] <ikonia> b3n_123: you are causing a problem
[16:31] <b3n_123> no .. Java SDK will remain in Linux but Eclipse project in my other non-linux partition
[16:31] <ikonia> again, you are creating a problem
[16:31] <ikonia> b3n_123: show me in a pastebin the output of "df -h" please
[16:32] <b3n_123> here you go: http://paste.ubuntu.com/10763878/plain/
[16:32] <aladiah> How i know wich driver i should download http://drvbp1.linux-foundation.org/~mcgrof/rel-html/backports/
[16:33] <b3n_123> #ikonia what do you say
[16:33] <b3n_123> !ikonia
[16:34] <b3n_123> sorry not sure how to tag person's name here
[16:34] <ikonia> hang on
[16:34] <vlkm> hello guys, have you suggestions about how to improve myself about programming ? i want to make projects but i cant get into any ideas :(
[16:34] <Zoohouse> b3n_123: Just mention the person's name. Don't put a # or anything else.
[16:34] <SCHAAP137> what programming language vlkm
[16:34] <ikonia> b3n_123: you have 13GB of disk space free ?? what "programming" do you think will use up 14GB of disk
[16:34] <b3n_123> oh okay Zoohouse .. hehe .. thanks
[16:34] <Zoohouse> SCHAAP137: What are you asking?
[16:35] <vlkm> Java or C++
[16:35] <ikonia> vlkm: try the ##programming channel
[16:35] <ikonia> this is ubuntu support
[16:35] <SCHAAP137> i wasn't talking with you Zoohouse, but thanks anyway
[16:35] <b3n_123> Andriod projects .. just try to learn
[16:35] <ikonia> you should be fine with disk space
[16:36] <b3n_123> ok ikonia
[16:36] <b3n_123> ikonia thanks again
[16:40] <aladiah> Someone tell me, whats goin wrong on this installation http://paste.ubuntu.com/10763932/ i tryed from here http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2251009
[16:40] <aladiah> i will reboot and i will be back
[16:40] <aladiah> to try if it works
[16:40] <ikonia> aladiah: why are you typing "make"
[16:41] <aladiah> because i saw this here http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2251009
[16:41] <aladiah> ikonia: iam newby like a blind man . . .
[16:41] <ikonia> why are you doing this ?
[16:41] <aladiah> because my bluetooth dont work
[16:41] <ikonia> do you know if your bluetooth has linux support ?
[16:42] <aladiah> it work for some of them on post doesnit ?
[16:42] <ikonia> no
[16:42] <ikonia> is that your make/model of bluetooth adaptor
[16:42] <aladiah> i dont know
[16:42] <ikonia> right
[16:42] <aladiah> how to know this ?
[16:42] <ikonia> so blindly typing things is not a good idea
[16:42] <ikonia> find out the make / model of your bluetooth card, then look up it's linux support
[16:42] <aladiah> can you help in console, tell me some commands ?
[16:43] <aladiah> ikonia: can i find that with consle command ? wich one ?
[16:44] <ikonia> I suggest you check the spec of your pc - rather than trying to guess this
[16:44] <aladiah> ikonia : this work ? dmesg | grep -i blue
[16:44] <ikonia> no
[16:45] <ikonia> again - I would advise you to look up your PC spec, rather than trying to guess
[16:45] <aladiah> toshiba_bluetooth: Detected Toshiba ACPI Bluetooth device - installing RFKill handler
[16:45] <ikonia> no
[16:45] <aladiah> where i can see that »?
[16:45] <aladiah> in ubuntu os ?
[16:45] <ikonia> i'm not going to help you - as you refuse to do what I say
[16:45] <aladiah> ?
[16:45] <emilsp> aladiah, run lspci and grep for blue or BLUE or Blue
[16:46] <aladiah> emilsp http://paste.ubuntu.com/10763971/
[16:46] <aladiah> result for lspci
[16:47] <emilsp> aladiah, now pls check lsusb
[16:48] <aladiah> amilsp: results for lsusb --- http://paste.ubuntu.com/10763977/
[16:48] <emilsp> what's Bus 002 Device 003: ID 04f2:b448 Chicony Electronics Co., Ltd
[16:49] <emilsp> also, check rfkill to see if you haven't shut down the bluetooth transmitter there
[16:50] <aladiah> amilsp: results for rfkill ----- http://paste.ubuntu.com/10763986/
[16:50] <hkrrsx> morning
[16:50] <ikonia> /win 12
[16:51] <ioria> webcam
[16:51] <aladiah> emilsp : do you think after what i did http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2251009 i should reboot or not worst now ?
[16:52] <ikonia> that will not work
[16:52] <ikonia> as I've told you earlier
[16:52] <ikonia> and you have not done it correctly
[16:53] <emilsp> aladiah, I did not see any atheros devices in lspci and lsusb, you should uninstall whatever you installed, as clearly that isn't helping
[16:53] <aladiah> emilsp : how to do that on console ?
[16:54] <emilsp> go to the directory in which you built the module and do a sudo make uninstall, but don't count on me, as I haven't done this on ubuntu for quite a while and this is dangerous
[16:55] <aladiah> desktop doensi t?
[16:55] <aladiah> you mean to this directory ? cd Desktop/backports-3.18-rc1-1
[16:55] <aladiah> you mean to this directory ? cd Desktop/backports-3.19-rc1-1
[16:56] <emilsp> aladiah, yes
[17:02] <IVBakker> hello all, would someone know a tool to emulate a gamepad from a keyboard? objective is to use a second keyboard as a gamepad for gaming
[17:03] <aladiah> how i know iam in the starting point again ?
[17:03] <aladiah> http://paste.ubuntu.com/10764124/
[17:03] <gabriele> !list
[17:04] * ablest1980 buys ubottu a beer
[17:06] <aladiah> http://paste.ubuntu.com/10764124/ now i just simply delete this directory and all files inside ?
[17:06] <davevanloo> hello all, i am back from dinner, i attempted to use ctrl alt F1 in order to shutdown the x server for installing nvidia drivers, however instead of a curser and or login i simply get a black screen.. any idea how to resolve this?
[17:06] <GreenScreen> Is Firefox in Ubuntu written to use QT?
[17:08] <ablest1980> davevanloo #ubuntu-server
[17:08] <ActionParsnip> davevanloo: reboot and drop to root recovery console. You may need to remount the filesystem read/write
[17:08] <davevanloo> roger, i will drop to root, how to i remount the filesystem inside recovery?
[17:09] <davevanloo> do*
[17:09] <ioria> aladiah, sorry, what are trying to do ?
[17:09] <ActionParsnip> davevanloo: why not use the packaged drivers, its much easier
[17:09] <Pinkamena_D> My mouse pointer seems to have vanished (I can still hover around and see that things are being hovered over) How do I get it back?
[17:09] <ActionParsnip> davevanloo: to remount you will need: mount -o remount,rw /
[17:09] <GreenScreen> what update is tied to "Web Browser Engine Update for QT"
[17:10] <davevanloo> im running 2 900 series cards in SLI, the packaged ones do not yet support my cards
[17:10] <ikonia> you will have problems in general
[17:10] <ikonia> SLI is not great, SLI on the 900's is a problem
[17:10] <ikonia> I would advise you to just use it in single card mode
[17:10] <ikonia> I doubt there is anything you'll do in linux that will require both in SLI
[17:11] <davevanloo> i know that basicly every core update i will have i would need to reinstall the drivers. and although i do not neccerely need SLIś power.. i do need working driver even if just using 1 of them
[17:11] <ActionParsnip> ikonia: not even games?
[17:11] <ikonia> ActionParsnip: not even games
[17:11] <ActionParsnip> ikonia: wow
[17:11] <ikonia> there are no native games to my knowledge that would require two 900 series cards in SLI
[17:11] <aladiah> ioria , i did this http://paste.ubuntu.com/10764205/ but someone told me this was not for me . so i uninstalled but results was this http://paste.ubuntu.com/10764124/ ,now i just simply delete this directory and all files inside ?
[17:12] <ikonia> davevanloo: what ubuntu version are you using
[17:12] <davevanloo> @ActionParsnip would mount -o remoount, rw / require any variables?
[17:12] <ikonia> davevanloo: what ubuntu version are you using
[17:12] <davevanloo> using 14.04 lts
[17:13] <ikonia> that should support the 900 series
[17:13] <zetheroo> what is the correct method to use to file a feature request?
[17:13] <ikonia> (in single card mode)
[17:13] <ikonia> zetheroo: bug and mark it as feature request
[17:13] <zetheroo> ikonia: in Launchpad?
[17:13] <ikonia> yes
[17:13] <deadmund> davevanloo: Variables? That command seems fine to me (except that / is probably already mounted rw)
[17:13] <zetheroo> ok thanks
[17:13] <GreenScreen> what program is tied to the recent update "Web Browser Engine Update for QT"
[17:14] <aladiah> ioria : ?
[17:14] <davevanloo> ikonia it could be a bug then yes.., although i have heard that the packaged drivers are not yet avaible
[17:14] <ikonia> davevanloo: what drivers package are using (there are multiple)
[17:14] <ikonia> davevanloo: and what is the bug
[17:14] <davevanloo> deadmund , i was just wondering.., if i perhaps needed to say wich partition etc etc
[17:14] <ioria> aladiah, the problem was that lspci not listing your blutooth ?
[17:14] <ikonia> davevanloo: / is the partition
[17:15] <davevanloo> ikonia i have tried nvidia-recent prety much
[17:15] <ikonia> I'd look at the other nvidia-$package
[17:15] <aladiah> ioria: but now i must delete this directory and put all to the returning poinst doesnit ? yes thats because what you said
[17:16] <ioria> aladiah, youare 100% sure to have a blutooth device ?
[17:16] <aladiah> ioria: yes i have
[17:16] <davevanloo> ikonia the bug itself is simply that i get a black screen at bootup. and were would i find nvidia-$package "packages" ?
[17:16] <ioria> aladiah, usb or embedded ?
[17:16] <ikonia> davevanloo: $package is a variable for the other nvidia packags
[17:16] <ikonia> !nomodeset | davevanloo
[17:17] <aladiah> ioria can i simlpy delete the directory i created to tinstall that stuff a while ago ? http://paste.ubuntu.com/10764124/
[17:17] <aladiah> ioria : is embebbed
[17:17] <davevanloo> ooh thank you ubottu, i exually did get that bug to once when i installed the drivers, it seemed like i only got to see half the screen
[17:17] <aladiah> embedded
[17:18] <ioria> aladiah, in the wifi card ?
[17:18] <bepolite> Hello
[17:18] <aladiah> i dont know where, but usb it isnt
[17:18] <ioria> aladiah, what your pc ?
[17:18] <bepolite> Why does the ubuntu packet manager not have the latest version of java and eclipse?
[17:18] <davevanloo> i will research this webpage a little and try to install a driver package from nvidia ikonia or ubottu would you have a specific package you would recomend for my setup? even if im going to run it in "not sli" mode
[17:19] <ikonia> davevanloo: I strongly advise you not to install anything from nvidia.com
[17:19] <ikonia> davevanloo: I would suggest you look at the other nvidia packages provided from ubuntu
[17:19] <ikonia> davevanloo: ubottu is a bot I triggered to give you info
[17:19] <aladiah> ioria samgung satellite C70D-B-10x
[17:20] <davevanloo> ikonia: haha, well he fooled me! :P i was planning on getting premade packages from apt-get i was simply wondering which specific one to get/was recomended by you personally
[17:20] <ioria> aladiah, toshiba, you mean ?
[17:20] <aladiah> ioria i did sudo make uninstall but all files stll inside directort ..
[17:20] <ikonia> davevanloo: no idea, I'd research which packages provide which nvidia-binary versions
[17:20] <aladiah> ioria yes toshiba satelitte
[17:21] <aladiah> sorry
[17:22] <ioria> aladiah, yes, you have : Wireless Technology : Bluetooth® 4.0 + LE
[17:23] <davevanloo> allright.., ikonia i am at a loss though as to were to research it?
[17:23] <aladiah> ioria yes i have
[17:24] <ioria> aladiah, yor wireless is Broadcom ?
[17:24] <wiuempe> hello
[17:25] <aladiah> ioria bcm943142y
[17:26] <ioria> aladiah, and your wifi is working fine ?
[17:26] <wiuempe> anyone know why in this same time youtube and spotify won't play? In youtube movies won't play, progress bar has ben stoped, no sound. In spotify this same
[17:26] <davevanloo> ikonia: seems only the 349.12 - BETA according to the geforce website that added support for my card, i hope its avaible
[17:26] <aladiah> iria if this help fcc id QDS BRCM1079
[17:26] <wiuempe> spotify on normal client base on wine, and youtube on chrome
[17:26] <aladiah> ioria if this help fcc id QDS BRCM1079
[17:27] <aladiah> ioria work fine
[17:27] <aladiah> after hibernate dont
[17:27] <aladiah> after waiking from hibernate state it dont work
[17:28] <davevanloo> using apt-get to get a beta package would i append -beta to nvidia-349.12 aka: "sudo apt-get install nvidia-349.12-beta"
[17:28] <bepolite> How can I get the version of a specific package using "apt-get" without isntalling the package
[17:28] <bepolite> ?
[17:29] <wiuempe> bepolite: apt-cache policy package
[17:29] <aladiah> ioria i will reboot
[17:29] <aladiah> ioria i will be back in a minute
[17:29] <ioria> aladiah, ok
[17:29] <aladiah> seconds
[17:29] <bepolite> Thanks wiuempe
[17:30] <bepolite> Apt get says the latest version of eclipse is 3.8.1 but Eclipse is now in version 4.4
[17:30] <bepolite> How do I get this latest version?
[17:31] <mentoc> I'm having a situation where my mouse and keyboard (USB) no longer work. They work in my BIOS configuration screen and the mouse lights up during the boot up process, but once the desktop manager comes up, nothing. They don't supply any input whatsoever
[17:31] <SchrodingersScat> bepolite: if you want something newer than offered by ubuntu, you can try their site or a ppa, both get you less support for it, since you're going off on your own.
[17:31] <bepolite> Hmmm
[17:31] <mchelen1> bepolite, i use the one from the eclipse website
[17:32] <kart> bepolite: yep get the latest version from the site. it works on my 14.04 with no issues (yet)
[17:32] <mchelen1> bepolite, there are a bunch of versions to choose from tho
[17:32] <genii> mentoc: Are they connected with cords to the usb ports, or is there a wireless adapter that plugs into the usb and then the keyboard and mouse connect to that?
[17:32] <mentoc> genii: they connect via cords. I tried other USB ports as well but to no avail
[17:33] <bepolite> Well mchelen1 I guess I'll chose the first one.
[17:33] <bepolite> i just need eclipse for android
[17:33] <mentoc> I'm using said keyboard and mouse right now. they only work now because I'm on a live cd
[17:34] <mchelen1> bepolite, idk if there is a specific version for android or java, but you can always try it and see how it goes
[17:35] <mjuszczak> Is there a simple programmatic way to enable pam_mkhomeir in 14.04 or do you have to append the lines to /etc/pam.d/common-session manualy?
[17:36] <Pici> mjuszczak: You should be able to just add another file in /etc/pam.d/ with the lines you need
[17:37] <aladiah> ioria : when i switch on Blueman appear a box saying : " Bluetooth is switch offed. bluetooth must be switch offto let device manager works. Out or activate bluetooth ?
[17:38] <aladiah> ioria: I will click activate bluetooth
[17:38] <baxx> does anyone have any advice on backup tools other than Deja Dup? Just for a single user (me) on my system at the mo
[17:38] <davevanloo> well it worked, thanks for all the support! :)
[17:39] <davevanloo> detetected both gpuś aswel as both monitors <3
[17:39] <ioria> aladiah, and ... ?
[17:39] <acz32> if i install 14.04 for the LTS, will the packages like firefox, pidgin, etc be as up to date as the versions in 14.10 or 15.04 when it's released? or is it like debian where the software is kept stable for 2+ years
[17:39] <aladiah> ioria: a box open , blueman open , but no button available ... all of the are unclickable
[17:39] <ianorlin> acz32: I think newest firefox ends up getting backported but not most other stuff
[17:39] <aladiah> ioria: only view and help
[17:40] <aladiah> ioria: Adpator, and device are not available
[17:40] <aladiah> ioria: search , add, config . . are no available, are there, but not available to click
[17:40] <mchelen1> baxx, whats wrong with deja dup?
[17:40] <ioria> aladiah, lspci -k | grep Network -A 5
[17:41] <baxx> mchelen1: it went corrupted on me, thought that I'd see what else was out there
[17:41] <baxx> maybe it was a one off - is that what everyone uses?
[17:41] <aladiah> ioria: results for lspci -k | grep Network -A 5 are http://paste.ubuntu.com/10764511/
[17:42] <mchelen1> baxx, ah i had that problem once, i tried to do more frequent "full" backups instead of diff
[17:42] <baxx> mchelen1: yeah it's not ideal in a back up is it :P are you still using it then?
[17:42] <mchelen1> baxx, you can do a straight rsync, with a gui if you want, it won't save file history tho
[17:43] <acz32> ianorlin: so i can install the LTS 14.04 and if i want newer versions, can upgrade to 15.05 using the package manager and not having to re-install
[17:43] <baxx> mchelen1: what about backing up installed repos etc
[17:43] <ioria> aladiah, maybe you have to reinstall your Broadcom driver
[17:43] <mchelen1> baxx, rsync /etc/apt ?
[17:43] <aladiah> ioria can you handle me with that step ? i dont remember ho wi did it last time i installe this lubuntu 14.10
[17:43] <mchelen1> baxx, i use a few tools to backup to various places, but usually just my /home and dont worry about repos (i dont have many installed tho)
[17:44] <baxx> mchelen1: never heard of that method, I've been ttrying to use dpkg for it
[17:44] <aladiah> ioria : is normal Lubuntu 14.10 take too long to awake from hibernate state ?
[17:44] <SCHAAP137> 15.04 is due end of the month right?
[17:44] <baxx> mchelen1: /home would work for me i think... then If I had a tool that checked all my git repos and a script for my installed packages I'd probably be set!
[17:44] <mchelen1> baxx, well all the repos are store in /etc/apt
[17:45] <mjuszczak> Pici: OK
[17:45] <mchelen1> baxx, there is some tool that does package lists, i forget the name tho
[17:45] <ioria> aladiah, don't know :-) i got problem with suspend in 14.04
[17:46] <baxx> mchelen1: I have tried this http://paste.ubuntu.com/10764571/
[17:46] <aladiah> ioria: software&updates then drivers ?
[17:46] <ianorlin> acz32: 15.04 isn't quite out yet but yes you should be able to but I think you will need an intemediate step in 14.10 then to 15.04
[17:46] <mchelen1> baxx, ah yeah dpkg might be the simplest option. does that work ok?
[17:46] <kart> SCHAAP137: Apr 23 is the date i think
[17:47] <SCHAAP137> cool, looking forward to it
[17:47] <aladiah> iori: you dont know how to reisntall my broadcom driver ?
[17:47] <baxx> Yeah I got something working from it - i haven't fully got my head around it at the mo mchelen1 , i can't remember how to install from here but think I've got it written somewhere
[17:47] <mmartinez> hola
[17:47] <ianorlin> aladiah: It depends on how fast your disc is when resuming from hiberante
[17:47] <SCHAAP137> moved from GNOME-flashback to MATE a few days ago
[17:47] <kart> RC is out by the 16th though
[17:47] <baxx> mchelen1: do you just rsync /home then? Do you have snapshots of them?
[17:47] <SCHAAP137> excellent move
[17:47] <mchelen1> baxx, i rsync /home and use deja dup
[17:47] <kart> how's MATE in general ? havent got a chance to play with it yet
[17:47] <SonikkuAmerica> SCHAAP137: Glad you like it. Are you using the now-official flavor?
[17:48] <baxx> mchelen1: fair, so you use them in unison
[17:48] <baxx> mchelen1: and no snapshots of the rsync, just the most up to date version there
[17:48] <mchelen1> baxx, yup, rsync goes to a network drive, and deja dup encrypts & backs up to S3
[17:48] <ioria> aladiah, no, you should sudo apt-get install bcmwl-kernel-source and then open Additional driver and reboot, ... but you said that wifi is working ...
[17:48] <SCHAAP137> i believe so SonikkuAmerica, 14.10
[17:48] <baxx> mchelen1: do you check their integrity?
[17:48] <mchelen1> baxx, yup the rsync is only latest version, while deja has version history
[17:48] <SCHAAP137> MATE version 1.8.1
[17:49] <aladiah> ioria ok
[17:49] <aladiah> ioria is working
[17:49] <mchelen1> baxx, i have, but i forget how often
[17:49] <mmartinez> i want to make a script to logon automaticaly on cisco routers
[17:49] <aladiah> ioria how about resintall blueman ?
[17:49] <SonikkuAmerica> SCHAAP137: That won't be officially supported by the way... if you want "real" official support grab a 15.04 daily (it's pretty stable)
[17:49] <baxx> mchelen1: is deja also just being run on /home?
[17:49] <mchelen1> baxx, i have the rsync do crc check and then i dont worry as much about deja
[17:49] <MonkeyDust> mmartinez script in what coding language?
[17:50] <baxx> sos for all the q;s, i've been meaning to organise this for ages
[17:50] <mmartinez> bash script
[17:50] <mchelen1> baxx, yup, i dont consider much else on the system to be important
[17:50] <mmartinez> or something like that
[17:50] <MonkeyDust> mmartinez #bash
[17:50] <mmartinez> expect
[17:50] <SCHAAP137> i'll do that when Intel releases their new GFX package, my first gen i5 integrated GFX depends on it for good OpenGL and stuff
[17:50] <SCHAAP137> but i will sure do that in the near future SonikkuAmerica
[17:50] <mmartinez> #bash
[17:50] <baxx> mchelen1: crc = checksum I'm guessing?
[17:50] <mchelen1> baxx, yup
[17:51] <baxx> mchelen1: cheers - do you have any starting points on a script for that? no worries if theres personal info in there I'll have a gander otherwise
[17:51] <aladiah> iori : i do that and ti says is already installed
[17:51] <aladiah> sudo apt-get install bcmwl-kernel-source
[17:52] <ioria> aladiah, and in Additional drivers ?
[17:52] <aladiah> it is in using
[17:52] <mchelen1> baxx, the rsync script? it's dead simple, rsync -e ssh /home user@nas:/backups
[17:52] <aladiah> iori : it is in using
[17:53] <mchelen1> baxx, iirc the options are -a for archive, -c for checksum
[17:53] <baxx> mchelen1: and rsync handles the checksums from the soruce to the backups itself? You don't have to script an external md5 or something?
[17:54] <mchelen1> baxx, i think what it does is checksum the file before transferring, but actually im not sure if it checks afterwards
[17:55] <baxx> mchelen1: hmm... it'd be clever if it did
[17:55] <mchelen1> baxx, but presumably if you run it a 2nd time and the files have not changed, it will compare the local & remote checksums
[17:56] <davevanloo> allright, a few reboots later and everything is correctly oriented and performing as desired, thank you all for your help :)
[17:56] <mchelen1> baxx, oh i think rsync always does file checksums after transfer http://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/30970/does-rsync-verify-files-copied-between-two-local-drives
[17:56] <aladiah> ioria : do you think this could be a solution for me http://paste.ubuntu.com/10764666/ i found this here http://askubuntu.com/questions/533043/bluetooth-not-working-on-ubuntu-14-04-with-dell-inspiron-15-3521
[17:56] <aladiah> ioria: i think it have same bcm has me
[17:56] <ikonia> aladiah: STOP just doing random things
[17:57] <ikonia> aladiah: find out your blue tooth model / make and check it's linux support status
[17:57] <davevanloo> ikonia: , thank you for your help :)
[17:57] <ikonia> davevanloo: no sweat
[17:57] <davevanloo> i think nvidia-recent was not as recent is I thought it was :P
[17:57] <baxx> mchelen1: ace cheers for the link... I'm going to get on this soon :) thanks for the pointers
[17:57] <aladiah> ikonia can you explain how to do that step by step on console ?
[17:58] <ikonia> aladiah: no, as I've told you 5 times
[17:58] <ikonia> aladiah: research your hardware - stop trying to guess
[17:58] <ikonia> you've already seen the chipset - someone told you to get that with lsusb
[17:58] <aladiah> i should research on wikipedia ?
[17:58] <mchelen1> baxx, np, good luck! i wish deja dup were a little more reliable, but having multiple backups is always a good idea
[17:58] <aladiah> ikonia all of that chinese for me
[17:59] <aladiah> ikonia thanks for your help
[17:59] <davevanloo> aladiah: if you still have a windows install, use some software like you already know.. for example : aida64 to get a complete system info on it.. there are also utilities for linux to do the same.. should be easy enough
[18:03] <davevanloo> aladiah it goes without saying that you must run whatever utility you plan to use on the machine your trying to find the info on.. ;)
[18:07] <aladiah> ok davevanloo
[18:07] <aladiah> i tough bcm43142 was wireless and bluetooth at same time
[18:08] <aladiah> bcm943142
[18:08] <aladiah> it is written under the laptop chassis
[18:09] <davevanloo> aladiah: well honestly.. most likely the only place were the true info you need is physicly written down would be on the chip/part of the board itself mate
[18:10] <OerHeks> aladiah, correct, Broadcom BCM43142 - 802.11bgn 1T1R (150Mbps) + BT 4.0
[18:10] <aladiah> OerHeks
[18:11] <ioria> aladiah, dmesg | grep -e bluetooth -e firmware ?
[18:12] <aladiah> i will do it
[18:13] <aladiah> ioria: results for dmesg | grep -e bluetooth -e firmware http://paste.ubuntu.com/10764854/
[18:14] <aladiah> ioria : toshiba_bluetooth: Re-enabling Toshiba Bluetooth , i should reboot now ?
[18:15] <ioria> aladiah, are you dual boot ?
[18:16] <aladiah> ioria yes iam
[18:16] <ioria> aladiah, and in windows it works ?
[18:16] <aladiah> perfectly
[18:17] <aladiah> ioria after your last command, i should reboot and try again here ?
[18:17] <ioria> aladiah, the firmware seems ok
[18:18] <ioria> aladiah, try reboot
[18:18] <aladiah> ioria : could this things happens because i did a UEFi installation instead UFEMI or whatever
[18:18] <n473> I'm going over the docs to install PureFTPD, and one of the steps recommends creating an fptuser and setting their shell to /etc. Is this wise?
[18:18] <n473> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PureFTP
[18:19] <aladiah> ioria, ok i will reboot
[18:19] <aladiah> ioria : i will be back in seconds
[18:21] <ActionParsnip> n473: is there no scope to use Site?
[18:21] <ActionParsnip> Sorry SFTP
[18:22] <ActionParsnip> n473: FTP is awful and unsecure
[18:22] <n473> ActionParsnip: it does have an SSL section; for my purposes it will be used over PPTP anyway
[18:23] <ANJ7> sudo: /usr/bin/sudo must be owned by uid 0 and have the setuid bit set
[18:23] <ANJ7> what does that mean?
[18:23] <ActionParsnip> n473: install openssh-server and you have an SFTP service. Connect using your Ubuntu login account. Need more users? Just add an Ubuntu user.
[18:23] <n473> just seems odd that it would grant the "template" ftpuser the default shell /etc
[18:24] <zerowaitstate> ANJ7: means the file owner needs to be root and the setuid permission bit on the executable file needs to be turned on
[18:24] <ActionParsnip> ANJ7: it means you have been messing with permissions on the sudoers file
[18:24] <ANJ7> oh, how can i resort that?
[18:24] <n473> ActionParsnip: my requirements are a bit more particular; the send hosts are Mikrotiks running RouterOS, and there are too many of them to warrant ssh/keypairs,etc.
[18:25] <ActionParsnip> ANJ7: drop to root recovery and you can make the changes
[18:25] <n473> which makes ftp the option with the least administrative overhead
[18:25] <ANJ7> how to drop to root recovery?
[18:25] <ActionParsnip> n473: you don't have to use keys with SFTP or even SSH.
[18:25] <ANJ7> I just chmod /usr/bin files
[18:25] <ANJ7> chmod 777
[18:25] <n473> oh SNAP
[18:26] <ANJ7> will I not be able to revert it back?
[18:26] <ActionParsnip> ANJ7: reinstall. You have butchered your OS
[18:26] <ANJ7> wow,
[18:26] <ActionParsnip> ANJ7: no feasibly. Why would you do that?
[18:26] <ANJ7> reinstall the os?
[18:27] <ANJ7> I just wanted to give permission to some files
[18:27] <ANJ7> now is there no other way?
[18:27] <n473> if you remember what those files were, and what their permissions were before you changed them
[18:27] <ActionParsnip> ANJ7: unless you want to go through every file in a good install and make a note of the access then copy it individually to your install OS, you will need to reinstall
[18:27] <n473> you could change them back
[18:28] <ActionParsnip> ANJ7: you don't need to give access to files in /usr/bin. They are delicate and purposeful.
[18:28] <ActionParsnip> ANJ7: got a backup?
[18:28] <ANJ7> can I give them the sudo again?
[18:28] <ANJ7> nope
[18:28] <ActionParsnip> ANJ7: then you are screwed
[18:29] <ANJ7> so reinstall is the only way?
[18:29] <OerHeks> valuable lesson: chmod 777 is a bad idea. backup your data and reinstall
[18:29] <ANJ7> other than that long option
[18:29] <ActionParsnip> ANJ7: plus throwing 777 round is stupid. It removes all security from the things you change, in this case the system binaries. Anyone or anything can make changes to the files unhindered
[18:29] <n473> ActionParsnip: as for using keys/etc, we could just go anonymous, but we need to retain the ability to differentiate between clients and, if need be, deny access individually
[18:30] <ANJ7> ok, fine. I'll reinstall the os
[18:30] <n473> and you can't automate askpass or expect functionality with RouterOS
[18:30] <ANJ7> bye. Cya
[18:30] <n473> enjoy!
[18:30] <ActionParsnip> ANJ7: because everyone has all access including malicious scripts in websites
[18:30] <ANJ7> night, its late here
[18:30] <n473> ANJ7: we;ve all been where you are
[18:30] <n473> it gets fun, I promise :P
[18:30] <ANJ7> hope so.
[18:31] <ANJ7> cya
[18:31] <n473> cheerio
[18:31] <ActionParsnip> n473: you still have a username and password for the SFTP connection just like you would for the FTP
[18:32] <foo> I installed apache, mysql, php5, and php5-fpm. It appears PHP isn't being rendered when I pull up a page. Is there a bot factoid someone can shoot at me?
[18:32] <baxx> n473: I always chmod +x ./<file>.sh on things that i've made, I know I've come into this late, just wondering if that's a nono
[18:33] <n473> baxx: as long as you're doing it as your own user, and not as root, you're fine
[18:34] <pbx> foo, try #apache or #php
[18:34] <n473> you have to chmod +x scripts you've written in order to be able to execute them
[18:34] <foo> pbx: thanks, can't hurt to try there, too
[18:34] <baxx> n473: yea I am, though I haven't really considered that before tbh... yeah I just do it to run things. All good then :)
[18:37] <ibouvousaime> hello guys I'm trying to use a nvidia card with blender but blender doesnt seem to see it I get his log when I'm trying to see if the gpu is active http://ur1.ca/k4jsr my driver info is http://ur1.ca/k4jto I already have the nvidia seting manager installed and have libcuda1-346 installed
[18:37] <ibouvousaime> Can someone help me please ?
[18:41] <Meinskur> ?
[18:42] <genii> !
[18:50] <ibouvousaime_> hello guys I'm trying to use a nvidia card with blender but blender doesnt seem to see it I get his log when I'm trying to see if the gpu is active http://ur1.ca/k4jsr my driver info is http://ur1.ca/k4jto I already have the nvidia seting manager installed and have libcuda1-346 installed
[18:54] <help_meeee> help
[18:54] <help_meeee> i want to install ubuntu on a machine with no internet connection
[18:54] <BigMac> Hello, I need a bit of help with an Kernel 13.9.03 update. It is mainly a video issue.
[18:56] <help_meeee> i want to install ubuntu on a machine with no internet connection
[18:56] <OerHeks> help_meeee, you can, so what is the issue?
[18:56] <ibouvousaime> help_meeee, DO you have the iso file ?
[18:56] <hkrrsx> !install | help_meeee
[18:56] <help_meeee> OerHeks: where do i find the image
[18:57] <ibouvousaime> help_meeee, download it from the ubuntu website
[18:57] <OerHeks> help_meeee, http://www.ubuntu.com/download/desktop
[19:01] <unixnub> (Hope this place is okay to ask noob unix questions) How can I change permissions of a program to not require sudo to run properly?
[19:01] <mchelen1> what program?
[19:02] <unixnub> Atom (text editor)
[19:02] <mchelen1> huh that should not require sudo, how did you install it?
[19:02] <rori> hi, can someone help me debug my usb mobile broadband? it used to work but just stopped all the sudden. i remember doing something with usb_modeswitch when i got it to work but cant remember what. unforetuneately i did not write down how i got it to work the first time.
[19:02] <unixnub> If I run it without sudo, it only opens up as a barebones framework. Runs properly only if I use sudo
[19:03] <unixnub> I also want 'npm install -g' to not require sudo either
[19:03] <mchelen1> unixnub, there is no way around that, -g installs globally
[19:03] <mchelen1> or at least no good way
[19:03] <BigMac> Can someone with kernel experience help with a video issue in kernel 13.19?
[19:03] <ibouvousaime> hello guys I'm trying to use a nvidia card with blender but blender doesnt seem to see it I get his log when I'm trying to see if the gpu is active http://ur1.ca/k4jsr my driver info is http://ur1.ca/k4jto I already have the nvidia seting manager installed and have libcuda1-346 installed
[19:03] <mchelen1> unixnub, you can just install the node package locally
[19:04] <unixnub> mchelen1: how about atom?
[19:04] <mchelen1> unixnub, how did you install it?
[19:04] <unixnub> I have it installed in /opt
[19:04] <mchelen1> unixnub, i'd recommend taking that out & installing with the .deb
[19:04] <unixnub> followed instruction here https://atom.io/docs/v0.186.0/build-instructions/linux
[19:05] <mchelen1> unixnub, is there some reason you need to build it, why not use https://github.com/atom/atom#debian-linux-ubuntu
[19:05] <unixnub> my system is 32-bit, and the pre-built package is 64-bit
[19:05] <BigMac> Can someone with kernel experience help with a video issue in kernel 13.19? PM me since there are other conversations going on Thanks...
[19:06] <xangua> there is no linux 13 BigMac
[19:06] <BigMac> Kernel not distro
[19:06] <mchelen1> unixnub, ah ok
[19:07] <SCHAAP137> you probably mean version 3.19, BigMac
[19:07] <bekks> BigMac: Support happens in here, not in a PM most likely :)
[19:07] <mchelen1> unixnub, id recommend this ppa https://launchpad.net/~webupd8team/+archive/ubuntu/atom
[19:07] <xangua> there is no linux kernel 13 BigMac, do you mean 3,.19? if that so you are not using a kernel rpovided by the official ubuntu repository
[19:08] <yorwos> hey guyz, i have a question for a "problem" kind of i came up , but treat it as more general question also plz, not this program specific
[19:08] <OerHeks> BigMac, wait 2 weeks for vivid with 3.19
[19:08] <SCHAAP137> the more general a question is asked, the more general the answer will be, yorwos
[19:08] <caveira> ola
[19:08] <BigMac> oops 3.19 geeze i'm getting old
[19:08] <caveira> boa tarde
[19:09] <rori> how do i check the status of usb_modeswitch?
[19:09] <unixnub> mchelen1: thanks. I saw that, but I was a bit unsure about using a ppa, ill check it out
[19:09] <mchelen1> unixnub, yeah go for it, it's a lot easier than building yourslef
[19:09] <caveira> algum brasileiro no chat
[19:09] <caveira> ?
[19:09] <k1l_> !br | caveira
[19:10] <mchelen1> unixnub: sudo add-apt-repository ppa:webupd8team/atom
[19:10] <BigMac> I have my mind running in multitask mode
[19:10] <yorwos> i wanna install a program "kompozer" (eg.this time its this) but then all instructions include manually installing some big lots of dependencies , is there any place with daily builds or something ? i mean is there a more proper way to installing this or other programs without having to install so many dependencies ? i might already have a newer version , this specific program is pretty old , i don't wanna break something else by accident
[19:10] <yorwos> ally downgrading
[19:10] <unixnub> yep ok
[19:10] <unixnub> is it bad practice to install stuff in /opt? I also have eclipse and chrome installed there
[19:10] <mchelen1> unixnub, then "apt-get update" and "apt-get install atom"
[19:10] <mchelen1> unixnub, you may need to remove the version you built yourself
[19:10] <unixnub> mchelen1: thanks, ill do that
[19:11] <mchelen1> unixnub, idk if there is anything wrong with it, it's just not usually necessary to do installs yourself because most things have packages
[19:11] <rori> hi, can someone help me debug my usb mobile broadband? it used to work but just stopped all the sudden. i remember doing something with usb_modeswitch when i got it to work but cant remember what. unforetuneately i did not write down how i got it to work the first time.
[19:11] <mchelen1> yorwos, sudo apt-get install kompozer
[19:11] <BigMac> Too late waiting for vivid I already installed the 3.19.03 already and apparently the loss of video issue is still there since 3.16.x
[19:12] <yorwos> unable to locate package
[19:12] <BigMac> The reason I updated again is that some v4l2 drivers work better after 3.12.24
[19:13] <mchelen1> yorwos, that software looks really old, you might want to find something newer
[19:14] <djhenry> My name is Djhenry and I'm trying to get a registration code for linux mint community profile
[19:15] <htqp> djhenry: linuxmint support channel is #linuxmint-help on irc.spotchat.org
[19:15] <BigMac> soo the question still stands... Anyone with experience with the latest kernel update. I already installed 3.19.03 and now no video
[19:15] <htqp> this is #ubuntu and derivatives are not supported here
[19:15] <djhenry> Thanks
[19:16] <mchelen1> yorwos, try this http://linuxg.net/how-to-install-bluegriffon-1-7-2-on-ubuntu-14-04-ubuntu-12-04-and-derivative-systems/
[19:17] <yorwos> thanx
[19:18] <yorwos> n thanx to the channel u guyz always try to help
[19:18] <BigMac> I guess I'll file a bug report. The video problem is still in the latest release kernel
[19:19] <RDX4OO> BigMac, what kind of video probs u got?
[19:19] <BigMac> No video Just blank screen in HDMI or V GA
[19:20] <BigMac> I had to boot to 3.12.24
[19:20] <RDX4OO> which graphic unit u are using?
[19:20] <BigMac> I had this issue back with 3.16
[19:20] <unixnub> how do I check the list of repos that I am using?
[19:20] <silvano> spiderman
[19:20] <BigMac> Nvidia with latest driver. Works in .24 kernel
[19:21] <htqp> unixnub: /etc/apt/sources.list and /etc/apt/sources.list.d/*
[19:21] <htqp> files NOT ending in .list are ignored
[19:21] <BigMac> RDX can you pm me. my screen is out of sorts and things are getting scrolled of quick. Thanks
[19:22] <RDX4OO> BigMac, u got PM
[19:22] <unixnub> htqp: Ii can't find the ppa that I just added
[19:22] <htqp> unixnub: instead, for a specific package, run: apt-cache policy packagename
[19:22] <k1l_> unixnub: "ls -al /etc/apt/sources.list.d" in a pastebin please
[19:22] <k1l_> !paste | unixnub
[19:26] <unixnub> so I just ran 'sudo add-apt-repository ppa:webupd8team/atom'
[19:27] <unixnub> k1l_: I found the repo by running that the 'ls -al' command
[19:27] <unixnub> oh....so that .d file is a directory... @.@
[19:27] <rori> is it really noone that can help me with my usb mobile broadband?
[19:27] <k1l_> unixnub: yes. its a dir
[19:27] <feodoran> if my computer has two graphic chips, one integrated (intel) and one discrete graphic card (radeon), how can i check which one is activated? and how can I choose, which one to use?
[19:28] <unixnub> rori: so your mobile broadband stopped working as in, internet doesn't work?
[19:28] <k1l_> feodoran: install the fglrx from the repo and then see the amd control center thingy
[19:29] <rori> unixnub, yes and the account is filled (i have 10GB surf left)
[19:29] <unixnub> feodoran: http://askubuntu.com/questions/2419/switching-between-graphics-cards
[19:29] <rori> the mobile blinks blue when working, else red. now it is red. i talked to the ISP, there are no distrubances.
[19:29] <rori> i can use internet on a cafe via wifi
[19:29] <ikonia> what has a cafe got to do with your mobile broadband
[19:30] <unixnub> rori: does it work on other devices?
[19:30] <rori> have not tried actually. i can try that tomorrow but not now
[19:30] <rori> but how can i debug it now?
[19:30] <rori> i did something with usb_modeswitch first time i got it to work, i think.
[19:31] <unixnub> (aren't mobile broadband devices wireless nowadays? @.@)
[19:32] <unixnub> rori: does this posts help you, or is it stuff you already know? http://askubuntu.com/questions/468691/usb-mobile-broadband-dongles-in-ubuntu-14-04-where-to-start
[19:32] * akkad is getting SOOOO tired of all the damn broken mirrors yielding 404's on mirrors.txt
[19:32] * ikonia doesn't appreciate /me commands from akkad
[19:33] * unixnub wonders how mirrors can be broken if our eyes are broken
[19:33] <ikonia> unixnub: what have you eyes got to do with software mirrors ?
[19:33] <akkad> fix your fonts. IRC is not THAT hard
[19:33] <k1l_> akkad: use a local mirror that works or use the main server
[19:33] <ikonia> fonts ?
[19:33] <ikonia> what have fonts got to do with mirrors ?
[19:34] <akkad> "appreciate"
[19:34] <unixnub> ikonia: sorry, that was a reddit reference
[19:34] <tgm4883> This seems to be getting off track
[19:34] <tgm4883> unixnub: actually, it was a jalen smith reference
[19:34] <gunndawg> I use IRSSI for my IRC client. Anyone else?
[19:34] <unixnub> tgm4883: yep
[19:34] <tgm4883> gunndawg: no, you are the sole user of that program
[19:34] <akkad> the point of mirrors is to be a VALID list of geo located servers. not just any server missing critical items
[19:34] <unixnub> well, thx for the help all!
[19:34] <gunndawg> tgm4883, that's kind of special
[19:35] <ikonia> akkad: so what do you want us to do about it ?
[19:35] <ikonia> akkad: have you reported the broken mirrors ?
[19:35] <akkad> first ignore you for being a dolt
[19:35] <akkad> fixed
[19:35] <unixnub> rori: hope you fix your problem, I gotta run
[19:35] <rori> ok,ty
[19:36] <obre> ikonia you're such a dick
[19:37] <feodoran> unixnub: all I can find about this UCC is from 2010. is this still up to date and save to use (with xfce)?
[19:42] <deraadt> ikonia: Matt you are quite a dick
[19:45] <demoz_> Hello, i have tried to install fglrx drivers, and desktop was a mess only background and files and folders no unity.. I ve purged the fglrx-* packages. Can anyone please help me restore my GUI :) ?
[19:46] <gunndawg> demoz_ no unity? that sounds like a blessing ;)
[19:46] <demoz_> gunndawg lol :D any ideas how to restore the original X.org driver ?
[19:47] <gunndawg> demoz_ I am not sure. I dont use unity
[19:47] <demoz_> "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg" didn't help either
[19:49] <alesan> hello
[19:49] <x85> is there any way to make fans spin to see if they are working under linux
[19:49] <alesan> anybody knows how to download the Cisco VPN software?
[19:49] <alesan> had it installed, not a problem, then I tried to log in again into it - and it was gone!
[19:49] <alesan> disappeared from the menu and even the cisco directory in /opt does not have binaries anymore
[19:50] <MonkeyDust> alesan https://wiki.ubuntu.com/VPN
[19:50] <alesan> MonkeyDust, I will read that, let's see if it helps
[19:51] <alesan> MonkeyDust, is that Ubuntu specific? What if I run Kubuntu
[19:51] <halfburnttoast> x85, what do you mean 'make fans spin'?
[19:51] <MonkeyDust> alesan it's the same repo
[19:51] <halfburnttoast> that should be controlled by the bios/uefi, not linux
[19:53] <Rory> Is there a better pattern to use than: for host in $(cat ips); do something; done
[19:53] <Rory> using cat there seems wrong somehow
[19:54] <halfburnttoast> Rory, what is 'ips'
[19:54] <halfburnttoast> a ascii file, right?
[19:54] <Rory> text file. for line in $(cat file.txt); do something; done
[19:55] <Rory> doesn't matter.
[19:55] <Rory> I'm asking about how to get rid of that call to "cat" - can't bash read the file natively line-by-line?
[19:55] <tgm4883> alesan: Trying to connect to anyconnect or something else?
[19:55] <halfburnttoast> while read host; do <whatever>; done < ips
[19:56] <alesan> tgm4883, yes it should be anyconnect...
[19:56] <Rory> halfburnttoast: and that gives me $host for each line?
[19:56] <alesan> I used to have the cisco client for it, but now it disappeared...
[19:56] <halfburnttoast> yes
[19:56] <tgm4883> alesan: that's what we've got here, does kubuntu use network-manager?
[19:56] <alesan> now I am trying to have network manager connect to it...
[19:56] <Rory> beautiful. Exactly what I was looking for. Thanks halfburnttoast
[19:56] <alesan> tgm4883, I think it does... Should I ask in #kubuntu?
[19:56] <halfburnttoast> Rory, no prob
[19:57] <tgm4883> alesan: yea, if it does, there is a package you need to install to get the VPN stuff
[19:57] <tgm4883> for anyconnet
[19:57] <alesan> tgm4883, how can I find that package.. I am searching on the internet
[19:57] <timer159> info
[19:59] <bprompt> alesan: hmmm in kubuntu, to connect, you'd have an icon on the systray, click that
[20:00] <alesan> I have configured it any clicked on "Connect" on this VPN entry, but it does not do anything. Maybe I am missing some packages and the system silently fails.
[20:00] <cjoseph> I'm having some trouble with cron on 14.04. I have a cron job in my normal (non-root) user's crontab that I added using 'crontab -e'. Its set to run every hour, and the syntax was verified using a syntax checker. /var/log/syslog shows my actions editing the crontab, but when the time goes by, the job never runs and nothing is logged to /var/log/syslog. If I grep a process list, I see 3 instances named 'cron' running. How can I get bett
[20:01] <tgm4883> alesan: if you use network-manager, then on ubuntu you install network-manager-openconnect and network-manager-openconnect-gnome and you can configure it from the GUI. Not sure what that would be in kubuntu but it's a start
[20:01] <alesan> ok sure thanks
[20:01] <halfburnttoast> cjoseph, mind pasting the cronjob here?
[20:01] <alesan> I will try
[20:02] <alesan> I really like KDE, that's why I use Kubuntu, instead of Gnome
[20:03] <bprompt> alesan: so.... what's the story? you want to connect to... something, using the kwin kde network manager? kwin uses a plasmoid, a white icon onthe systray, for the frontend, and for the backend, uses just like ubuntu, NetworkManager daemon
[20:04] <alesan> bprompt, ideally I;d want to use the regular cisco client I've used until the other day. BUT, to make it work, any solution is fine, as long as it works
[20:07] <cjoseph> halfburnttoast: you mean the entry in crontab? sure
[20:07] <bprompt> alesan: well... kubuntu should have the white icon on the system tray for the plasmoid to configure any network
[20:07] <cjoseph> 47 * * * * /usr/local/sbin/doodler
[20:07] <bprompt> alesan: just hover over the ones there, see what tooltip they may show
[20:08] <cjoseph> I'm more concerned about why absolutely nothing useful has been logged. Its been very difficult to debug.
[20:08] <alesan> bprompt, as I said I already configured a VPN there but it does not connect
[20:08] <alesan> I see no effect
[20:08] <alesan> I will try again
[20:09] <Eightynine> Hi. Software update manager has been disappeared after system update. How can I fix this?
[20:09] <halfburnttoast> cjoseph, doodler? I'm not familiar with that program, are you sure you have permissions to execute it?
[20:09] <tgm4883> bprompt: does that log anywhere that alesan can look?
[20:09] <stacks88> when i am in nano (the editor), i get these green bars at times http://i.imgur.com/ybYEplc.png. I think they might be spaces or something? they seem to be easily deleted if i do CTRL+K etc but still, has anyone experienced this? Is this something i need to change with nano? how can i get rid of these green bars? Or am i stuck with them? i dont know if it is my ssh client (securecrt), or if it
[20:09] <stacks88> is somethign with nano
[20:10] <John> hey all
[20:10] <John> Got a question totally unreleated to Ubuntu, but I dont even know where to ask so here goes
[20:10] <John> How does a Hard Drive know where the first bit in a byte starts?
[20:11] <bprompt> tgm4883: no that I can see right off
[20:11] <ikonia> nothing to do with ubuntu
[20:11] <John> I mean, the read arm cannot be bit-accurate. It has to just drop down somewhere and figure out where it is
[20:11] <ikonia> John: try ##hardware
[20:11] <hkrrsx> stacks88, not 100% certain on this but check your .nanorc file for the Tab key's color
[20:11] <cjoseph> halfburnttoast: yes, its a script I made. I can run it fine. I suspect cron can too, but I'm missing any/all logging to confirm or deny this.
[20:11] <John> oooh, hardware - ok thanks man :D
[20:11] <halfburnttoast> cjoseph, something to also try is replacing that cron with something like '47 * * * * logger "Cron program start" && /usr/local/sbin/doodler && logger "Cron program end"
[20:11] <htqp> stacks88: they indicate empty spaces at end of line, which would be 'invisible' otherwise
[20:12] <halfburnttoast> if you see "Cron program start" but not "Cron program end" in your syslog, you'll know it's the program itself that's not working
[20:12] <halfburnttoast> usually it's either a permissions issue or environment variables
[20:12] <bprompt> tgm4883: the plasmoid is just the frontend, but uses NetworkManager, and that one logs under /var/log/syslog.1
[20:13] <tgm4883> bprompt: cool, so he should hopefully just need to add that network-manager-openconnect package and configure it
[20:13] <halfburnttoast> cjoseph, oh, and makes sure you have the #!/bin/bash in your script
[20:13] <RichieRich> Hello world
[20:14] <halfburnttoast> or #!/usr/bin/python or whatever it uses
[20:14] <cjoseph> halfburnttoast: but why is cron not logging these successes or failures anyway?
[20:14] <RichieRich> Success!
[20:14] <halfburnttoast> cron is just calling the program, it doesn't return failure states by itself, IIRC
[20:14] <cjoseph> I have a cron logging enabled in /etc/rsyslog.conf, I would expect this stuff to show up in /etc/log/cron.log
[20:15] <RichieRich> Does cronus die?
[20:17] <agent47> hello
[20:17] <rofltech> agent47: hi
[20:17] <agent47> i found a virus in ubuntu
[20:18] <ikonia> agent47: please explain
[20:18] <hkrrsx> !linuxvirus | agent47
[20:18] <RichieRich> Anybody see my backflip!
[20:18] <ikonia> RichieRich: not interested - this is an ubuntu support channel
[20:19] <RichieRich> oh sorry
[20:19] <RichieRich> ill switch channels
[20:19] <agent47> 3g-ps-bin.run
[20:19] <ikonia> thts not in ubuntu
[20:19] <agent47> .run
[20:19] <agent47> .txt
[20:19] <ikonia> thats just a file extension
[20:19] <ikonia> agent47: whats the actual problem you have ?
[20:21] <agent47> blackdoor.linux.blackhole
[20:21] <ugurkoltuk> hi I have a laptop (dell inspiron 7520) with ubuntu 14.04 and my SD card reader doesn't work. I typed "sudo lshw" in terminal and i got this (http://paste.ubuntu.com/10766098/) output. here's some unclaimed thing, can that be the reason why my card reader doesn't work?
[20:21] <ikonia> agent47: stop
[20:21] <ikonia> agent47: either tell us the problem or stop trolling
[20:22] <agent47> it is true
[20:22] <ikonia> agent47: do you have an ubuntu issue ?
[20:22] <agent47> yes
[20:22] <naftilos76> Hi, i have setup an init.d script but it does not run on boot. I have created the sym links with update-rc.d and enabled the script in runlevels 2345 . The headers in the script seem fine. The script runs/stops fine if i do /etc/init.d/cp start|stop . How are scripts started by the system on boot? Are they run with a 'start' argument?
[20:22] <ikonia> please state it then
[20:23] <agent47> yes
[20:23] <agent47> is it on?
[20:24] <ikonia> agent47: state the problem
[20:24] <agent47> can someone help me?
[20:24] <stacks88> hqtp: Turning off trailing white space did it. Been putting up with that for years, just never doing anything about it until now. phew.
[20:24] <stacks88> thx
[20:24] <ikonia> agent47: state the problem
[20:24] <halfburnttoast> naftilos76, what is this script doing, if you dont mind me asking?
[20:24] <agent47> help me!
[20:25] <naftilos76> halfburnttoast: it starts ruby script daemons inside a dir (as many as it can find). Let me gist it for you
[20:25] <OerHeks> ugurkoltuk, that paste does not show any cardreader, try in terminal: lspci # does this show your cardreader?
[20:25] <naftilos76> https://gist.github.com/anonymous/85c69ed190a931df781d
[20:26] <halfburnttoast> naftilos76, does it need to be in the init.d? like, does it need to perform special operations depending on the runlevel?
[20:26] <halfburnttoast> or does it just need to be started at boot?
[20:26] <ugurkoltuk> DerHeks: well, it seems like it does not http://paste.ubuntu.com/10766167/
[20:26] <naftilos76> Well, it is supposed to run on 3 where a normal system is run
[20:27] <naftilos76> i just applied the defaults with update-rc.d
[20:27] <naftilos76> that is not the problem (i think)
[20:27] <genii> !runlevels
[20:27] <genii> Hm
[20:27] <OerHeks> ugurkoltuk, indeed.
[20:27] <halfburnttoast> it might also be better to just call it from the /etc/rc.local file
[20:28] <ugurkoltuk> DerHeks:
[20:28] <halfburnttoast> unless it really needs to do differetn things depending on the runlevel
[20:28] <OerHeks> ugurkoltuk, same output when you insert a memorycard?
[20:28] <ugurkoltuk> DerHeks: so that reader is physically problem?
[20:28] <naftilos76> I have taken a look at upstart tool, it just seemed easier to go with init.d
[20:28] <ugurkoltuk> DerHeks: let me check but i'm afraid yes.
[20:28] <naftilos76> I mean there is nothing wrong with that! There are so many scripts in there
[20:29] <naftilos76> The thing is that it does not start on boot. That is my problem
[20:29] <ugurkoltuk> DerHeks: exactly the same output http://paste.ubuntu.com/10766191/
[20:29] <halfburnttoast> naftilos76, have you tried calling the daemon from /etc/rc.local ?
[20:31] <OerHeks> ugurkoltuk, when i search for your chipset "SMBus: Intel Corporation 7 Series/C210 Series" + "cardreader" i see lots of bugreports.
[20:31] <naftilos76> halfburnttoast: Why are you avoiding commenting on anything regarding init.d scripts? No i did not try to trigger the daemons from rc.local . I will do that but the way i chose should work, right?
[20:32] <naftilos76> halfburnttoast: Is there anything wrong with init.d scripts?
[20:32] <ugurkoltuk> DerHeks: well, i hope that's a sw issue then
[20:32] <naftilos76> halfburnttoast: It seems straightforward
[20:33] <naftilos76> Does anybody know if init.d scripts are initiated with a 'start' argument during boot?
[20:33] <naftilos76> This is my concern
[20:33] <halfburnttoast> well, yes, that's why upstart and systemd are replacing them. They're difficult to manage, especially when it comes to the sequencing
[20:33] <halfburnttoast> i was just offering a solution that might work better
[20:34] <naftilos76> halfburnttoast: I am not complaining man. Thanks for that, i am just wondering why the script does not work on boot.
[20:35] <halfburnttoast> my guess would be that there's a problem with sequencing. such as a required dameon that it needs that hasn't been started yet
[20:35] <halfburnttoast> it's hard to tell just from the description
[20:36] <naftilos76> ok thanks man
[20:36] <y7u3> We have a Ubuntu server and I know it has a website and an IP address, when I put the IP address the website shows up, I want to know in which directory the website files reside, I am trying to look into the source of the webpage but cant find it, is it in /var/www ?
[20:36] <halfburnttoast> naftilos76, they also tend to want a particular format
[20:36] <halfburnttoast> naftilos76, http://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/20357/how-can-i-make-a-script-in-etc-init-d-start-at-boot
[20:36] <robroy> #fo0bar
[20:37] <hkrrsx> y7u3: It'll likely be in /var/www/html
[20:38] <naftilos76> halfburnttoast: i can see chkconfig in there. It has been dropped recently.
[20:38] <y7u3> hkrrsx: there is a /public_html in it and there are buncha php files in it but I cannot locate the main index.html file
[20:38] <halfburnttoast> anyways, rc.local, by default, is called at the end of the runlevel's rc#.d/, so it should have everything loaded hopefully
[20:39] <MonkeyDust> y7u3 there's also #ubuntu-server
[20:39] <hkrrsx> y7u3: Is there supposed to be an index.html ?
[20:39] <naftilos76> i ll give it a try
[20:39] <hkrrsx> y7u3: Or is the main page supposed to be index.php ?
[20:39] <y7u3> hkrrsx: not sure :(
[20:40] <y7u3> hkrrsx: once I found the directory where the files are by using grep and the content ..but I forgot
[20:40] <teward> y7u3: you should look at the configuration for the website itself to ID the directory the files are in
[20:40] <teward> also consider the index might not be HTML if it's a PHP site
[20:41] <teward> PHP-driven site*
[20:41] <y7u3> okk teward
[20:41] <teward> s/HTML/pure HTML/
[20:41] <halfburnttoast> naftilos76, ah, well I'm not sure what the recommended ubuntu way is anymore for making init scripts, but it's on the way out anyawys so there might not be a published method
[20:42] <y7u3> teward: do php have a main file ? like index.php ?
[20:42] <naftilos76> halfburnttoast: i just noticed that the sym links are 20. The should be 99
[20:42] <teward> y7u3: depends on the site and the configuration
[20:42] <halfburnttoast> naftilos76, but, for the time being, rc.local is still called at the end of the runlevel, thus everything should be loaded without needing to make a new init script
[20:42] <ayahia56> hi,i have wi-fi/bluetooth problem.
[20:42] <teward> y7u3: as i said, you need to depend on the configuration file for your site, NOT the 'index file' assumption, as in nginx you can override the index page to be whatever.
[20:43] <teward> y7u3: you have to first determine what web server is in use, then look at the configuration directory to determine the site files
[20:43] <teward> y7u3: if it's apache2, then /etc/apache2/sites-enabled/ contains the 'files' of the configuration for the sites - start looking at the configs to see what's served from where
[20:43] <naftilos76> halfburnttoast: When you do 'update-rc.d script defaults' can you define the SXX number?
[20:46] <halfburnttoast> naftilos76, I believe so, i think the man page has examples in it for that
[20:46] <naftilos76> i saw the man page
[20:47] <naftilos76> i did that but the script still refuses to start on boot
[20:47] <naftilos76> all the sym links are S99
[20:47] <halfburnttoast> what is the sequence number for it?
[20:47] <halfburnttoast> all of them? in the entire directory?
[20:47] <naftilos76> no
[20:48] <naftilos76> the rest of the sym links are various nums
[20:48] <naftilos76> i am talking about the cp script
[20:48] <naftilos76> it is K99 on 01 6 and S99 on 2345
[20:50] <halfburnttoast> naftilos76, do you have encryptfs running on your /home partition?
[20:50] <naftilos76> no
[20:50] <naftilos76> this is a vps
[20:50] <naftilos76> ubuntu 14.04
[20:51] <naftilos76> i think it is something that i have not noticed
[20:52] <ikonia> I'll put money the init is loaded from the hypervisor as para-virtualized containers
[20:52] <ikonia> naftilos76: show me the output of uname -a please
[20:52] <naftilos76> Linux main 3.13.0-46-generic #79-Ubuntu SMP Tue Mar 10 20:06:50 UTC 2015 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux
[20:53] <ikonia> surprising, maybe not a container then
[20:53] <halfburnttoast> i'm thinking there's some ruby dependency that either hasn't loaded or is failing to load
[20:55] <thegrreat> where is the dir for launchpad located at ?
[20:55] <demoz_> I really need help. I've literally reinstalled xorg, fglrx, switched all possible drivers (open source,fglrx,fglrx-update),reinstalled ubuntu-desktop,etc.. I still dont have Unity or any desktop bars,only wallpaper and couple files. Any help,anyone,please?
[20:56] <thegrreat> where is the dir for launchpad located at ?
[20:56] <MonkeyDust> demoz_ ctrl-alt-F1, then: cat /etc/issue what does it say?
[20:57] <Pici> thegrreat: In what context?
[20:57] <pavlos> thegrreat, https://launchpad.net/
[20:57] <demoz_> MonkeyDust Ubuntu 14.10 \n \l that is all
[20:58] <halfburnttoast> naftilos76, oh you know, i wonder if there's a path error
[20:59] <thegrreat> I want to find where the code for launchpad is placed in... specefic dir and file.
[20:59] <halfburnttoast> naftilos76, maybe try adding this at the top of your script: 'PATH=/sbin:/bin:/usr/sbin:/usr/bin:/usr/local/sbin:/usr/local/bin'
[20:59] <demoz_> MonkeyDust: any suggestions?
[21:00] <halfburnttoast> that might need to be modified
[21:01] <MonkeyDust> demoz_ do you get a complete desktop, with the live usb/dvd?
[21:01] <naftilos76> halfburnttoast: thanks for your time man
[21:01] <naftilos76> i will give it a try tomorrow
[21:01] <naftilos76> it is midnight here
[21:01] <halfburnttoast> alright, no prob
[21:01] <naftilos76> thanks again
[21:02] <demoz_> MonkeyDust if you mean when i boot from cd/usb, yes. Tho i do not have cd or usb with me now.
[21:03] <demoz_> MonkeyDust i tried to install new amd catalyst driver 11.16 i believe (beta) and after that my unity is gone
[21:03] <MonkeyDust> demoz_ and what video card is that? nvidia?
[21:03] <demoz_> MonkeyDust amd
[21:04] <marus> hello, any one know a solution for the bug, filename is too long?
[21:04] <MonkeyDust> demoz_ nope, no clue
[21:04] <demoz_> MonkeyDust thank you anyway :)
[21:11] <intrin> hi
[21:11] <Meinskur> sup
[21:12] <intrin> so i have /var/www/www/folders/*.*
[21:12] <intrin> how do i movve the /folders/*.* up one dir
[21:13] <intrin> just mv * ../ ?
[21:13] <Meinskur> sorry mate, can't help you there
[21:13] <Meinskur> but someone here should be able to
[21:13] <intrin> ya i think it is, imma try it :D
[21:14] <marus> any one know how can i cp or mv a file with a long file name?
[21:15] <Meinskur> use tab completion?
[21:15] <DrkShadow> marus: can't you just use cp or mv? or tar -c . | tar -C /new/destination -x ?
[21:16] <marus> DrkShadow: cp and mv return error:file name is too long, and it seem to be a reported bug
[21:16] <marus> the tar way i havn't try it yet
[21:17] <Meinskur> oh, sorry! xD I was at no help at all :P
[21:17] <thegrreat> where is the file/files for the dock thing located wich dir ?
[21:17] <thegrreat> im talking about the dock thing to the left
[21:18] <Flugz> Hello everyone! Just a quick question about kernel upgrades. I run 14.04, and to me it seems there's a kernel upgrade almost every week. Every time I upgrade there seems to be a minor hiccup, either with the fglrx driver, or my buggy RTL8111/8168/8411 network card. Now I have everything running perfectly on 3.13.0-48-generic. So the question is, do I actually need to upgrade the kernel version, or could I just lock it?
[21:19] <Kiel1> Hi everyone
[21:20] <wafflejock> thegrreat, lots of ways here http://askubuntu.com/questions/29553/how-can-i-configure-unity believe there are a few configs that work together for the panel hence all the GUI editor options
[21:21] <marus> DrkShadow: with tar also the same Cannot open: File name too long
[21:21] <marus> tar: Exiting with failure status due to previous errors
[21:23] <streulma> hello, is here some people familiar with the ASUS F205TA ?
[21:25] <genii> streulma: Perhaps better to just describe to the channel what you really want to know
[21:25] <rajesh_> Hii every one need a help is any one available
[21:26] <streulma> well genii the sound is not recognised Dummy Sound it's RT5640 or RT5648
[21:26] <rajesh_> hi genni
[21:26] <rajesh_> a small help
[21:26] <genii> !ask | rajesh_
[21:26] <rajesh_> can you ??
[21:26] <streulma> the wireless is not recognised but can be helped with some code of Google Chrome OS
[21:26] <willbradley> hiya friends. i just realized that i'm quite irritated by how sticky the resizing of windows is. it seems like it takes the cursor 10-20% of the screen before the window starts resizing, and then often it doesn't land underneath the cursor, but at some random offset. any ideas?
[21:27] <marus> any solution to my Problem?
[21:28] <genii> streulma: Hopefully someone with more experience than me with sound issues will help address the issue now that we know the questiion :)
[21:28] <BigMac> Will: try using Alt + middle mouse key. It will then resize x and y
[21:29] <willbradley> BigMac: interesting, thanks. why the buggy snapping by default though?
[21:30] <rajesh_> I want to deleat a folder from /etc/ directory but it says permission denied ... is there any solution for that ?
[21:30] <johnjohn101> rajesh_: use sudo
[21:30] <willbradley> rajesh_: it's usually unwise to delete things there. why are you trying to delete, what are you trying to delete?
[21:30] <rajesh_> i used it
[21:31] <rajesh_> will i want to delet icecast2 folder from there
[21:31] <BigMac> willbradley: not sure but I also have found it is a PITA to size windows. I think I found that trick in one of the Ubuntu forums
[21:31] <genii> rajesh_: willbradley has a good point. The things in /etc are configuration files, you normally do not want to delete things in there
[21:31] <rajesh_> so that i can install it with new password
[21:31] <genii> rajesh_: Instead uninstall it with purge, then reinstall it
[21:31] <genii> rajesh_: purge will remove all it's files
[21:32] <rajesh_> what is purge now ?
[21:32] <willbradley> rajesh_: i don't know anything about icecast so proceed at your own risk. what happens when you type sudo rm -r /etc/icecast2
[21:33] <genii> rajesh_: In console: sudo apt-get purge icecast2 then: sudo apt-get install icecast2 ( or use the Software Center)
[21:33] <rajesh_> it says permission denied
[21:33] <rajesh_> ohh kk let me try and come back to you guys
[21:33] <willbradley> rajesh_ here is info on purge https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AptGet/Howto#line-73
[21:33] <jason__> I'm having a problem with Chrome in Ubuntu 14.04. Occasionally it seems to be causing my system to hang up I don't really have a lot of details about what it might be doing because I literally can't do anything when it happens and it happens intermittently.
[21:34] <pzykotic> jason__: Are you _sure_ it's indicative of a problem with Chrome and not just happening when chrome happens to be open?
[21:34] <willbradley> jason__: you may want to install System Load Indicator from the software center. it helps me keep an eye on cpu/memory load
[21:34] <thegrreat> Icecast is a free server software for streaming multimedia.
[21:35] <jason__> pzykotic, not entirely, no.
[21:35] <pzykotic> jason__: try running chrome from terminal /usr/bin/google-chrome --disable-gpu
[21:35] <pzykotic> tell me if it locks up again.
[21:36] <indoctrinated> Question: Does anyone here have a good working knowledge of Intel's Boot Guard and UEFI Secure Boot?
[21:36] <pzykotic> that'll turn off Chromium's hardware acceleration.
[21:37] <pzykotic> jason__: Another thing to check is when this happens, try to hit ctrl+alt+f1 or F2
[21:38] <jason__> ah yes I can never remember those shortcuts
[21:38] <BBLLCC> is there any linux way, non wine, to get individual tracks from a flac file and a cue file?
[21:39] <rajesh_> Hey thanks guys it worked
[21:39] <jason__> I'll try without GPU support, though it happens rarely enough that it could be a few days before it happens again.
[21:39] <Guest92551> im running ubuntu on a mac and i cant tell if the fans are working
[21:39] <pzykotic> jason__: I had a similar problem and it was related to nvidia drivers. I suspect you're having the same issue.
[21:39] <Mion> Guest92551: fix your nick
[21:40] <Mion> Guest92551: and just check temps with `sensors`
[21:40] <jason__> pzykotic, were you able to solve it, or just quit using gpu support altogether?
[21:41] <pzykotic> jason__: I ripped out the Nouveau driver and used NVidia proprietary one and that solved it.
[21:41] <bprompt> BBLLCC: a flac file is usually just a track per se, no an album per se, it could be anything, 5mins or 50hrs, so not sure on how you'd do it in win64 or anywhere else, to get "tracks" from a track?
[21:42] <BBLLCC> bparker, i mean to divide the flac file considering the times in the cue file
[21:42] <x85> better?
[21:42] <BBLLCC> does that help?
[21:42] <Mion> BBLLCC: first hit on google, literally, http://blog.coriolis.ch/2014/11/25/convert-split-flac-files/
[21:42] <jason__> pzykotic, I'm using a proprietary nvidia driver, though it's not the latest
[21:42] <Mion> BBLLCC: can use the same tools on gnu/linux
[21:42] <Mion> BBLLCC: everyone and their grandmother have written scripts to automate this too
[21:43] <pzykotic> jason__: video drivers and linux are a painful mix sometimes ;P
[21:43] <Mion> pzykotic: only if you have horrible hardware like amd or nvidia optimus
[21:44] <pzykotic> Mion: I suppose AMD "ATI" cards are rubbish if you want to play games but if you're just building a desktop they're more than fine.
[21:44] <BBLLCC> http://danilodellaquila.com/blog/how-to-split-an-audio-.flac-file-using-ubuntu-linux what about that one?
[21:45] <Mion> pzykotic: except when they are not
[21:45] <Mion> pzykotic: every time amd comes out with a new card it usually takes 6-9 months for the free drivers to be usable
[21:45] <x85> I ran "sensors" but that just tells system temps not if the fans are setup correctly
[21:45] <grio> Looking for opinions for best Twitter app for 14.04/14.10?
[21:45] <pzykotic> You should ask Linus about his opinion of NV drivers then.
[21:45] <bekks> x85: Because fans usually arent being "setup".
[21:46] <pzykotic> he's not a fan...
[21:46] <Mion> x85: if the temps are fine, even under load, then you can be pretty sure that the temperature controll is working...
[21:46] <indoctrinated> Anyone know the nitty gritty about UEFI Secure Boot and Boot Guard?
[21:46] <Mion> indoctrinated: lots of people do
[21:46] <Mion> indoctrinated: boot guard is horrible because intel refuses to let people sing stuff themself
[21:46] <pzykotic> ^
[21:46] <Mion> indoctrinated: also intel refuses to sign for anyone who isn't MS
[21:46] <x85> just want to make sure my mac isnt going to set on fire lol
[21:47] <Mion> indoctrinated: http://patrick.georgi-clan.de/2015/02/17/intel-boot-guard/
[21:47] <pzykotic> well, it won't catch fire but it may stop booting.
[21:47] <skinux> Where is the easiest tutorial on creating Ubuntu packages from binary downloads (e.g. web browser, IDE)?
[21:48] <hkrrsx> grio: See my PM to you
[21:48] <moushira> Anyone here on a new toshiba laptop?
[21:48] <Mion> boot guard will prevent you from eg running coreboot
[21:48] <indoctrinated> I'm looking into it because Canonical is in a CA chain for Secure Boot, so I'm wondering if this trust extends to Boot Guard implementation
[21:48] <skinux> Or...the best guide for properly installing such downloaded software, instead of just extracting their tarballs into /opt/applications?
[21:48] <Mion> secureboot is less of a problem since you can sign yourself
[21:48] <grio> hkrrsx, appreciate it. I was just looking for opinions. Trying to find a sufficient replacement to Tweetdeck. Sorry to step on the conversation.
[21:48] <Mion> skinux: wrap in a .deb
[21:49] <skinux> Huh?
[21:49] <Mion> skinux: or install to $HOME
[21:49] <moushira> the fan noise is becoming unbearable and toshset doesn't worked, tried all acpi workarounds in grub, nothing seems to works.
[21:49] <jpds> indoctrinated: Ubuntu doesn't have TrustedGRUB.
[21:49] <hkrrsx> grio: np :)
[21:50] <skinux> What do you mean wrap it in a deb? Don't .deb files (packages) have special manifest files or something that instructs Ubuntu on what to do with various contents of the archive?
[21:50] <Mion> skinux: sure
[21:50] <jpds> skinux: Debian packaging is an art.
[21:50] <Mion> skinux: and you can make a .deb out of binary projects
[21:50] <Mion> skinux: there are even loads of those in the repo
[21:50] <Mion> skinux: like catalyst, nvidia drivers and other crud
[21:51] <Mion> skinux: btw, chrome and all the crappy closed source ide's are already in ppa
[21:51] <Mion> well, most of them are
[21:51] <jpds> indoctrinated: But then again, I've never heard of "Boot Guard".
[21:51] <indoctrinated> Mion: So who runs the CA for Boot Guard?
[21:51] <BigMac> Jason___: are you still looking for an answer about Chrome?
[21:51] <Mion> jpds: read the link I posted, it will make you lose faith in humanity
[21:51] <Mion> indoctrinated: intel have all the keys
[21:51] <skinux> Well, specifically, I wouldn't mind creating actual Ubuntu packages from the binary tar archives of Firefox, PhpStorm, and maybe a few others.
[21:52] <Mion> skinux: exists already
[21:52] <Mion> skinux: firefox from mozilla sucks btw
[21:52] <Mion> better to actually build it from source
[21:52] <indoctrinated> And those keys are baked into the TPM, right?
[21:52] <Mion> optinally with pgi
[21:52] <skinux> Umm, isn't Firefox from Mozilla the only Firefox??
[21:52] <Mion> pgo*
[21:52] <Mion> skinux: I mean the binaries from mozilla
[21:53] <Mion> they are silly
[21:53] <Mion> specially if you are on modern hardware that actually have things like sse3/4 etc
[21:53] <skinux> Well, it'd probably take a while to compile it. Plus, I really doubt that would be anywhere near as easy as configure, make, make install for compiling.
[21:53] <ki7rw> what's going on with chrome? I must have had an update because it doesn't work properly on any of my boxes. for example, images don't render at foxnews.com anymore
[21:54] <Mion> skinux: again, you would package it as a deb so that you would not have to run that by hand
[21:54] <Mion> skinux: or you know, just install firefox from the ubuntu repos
[21:54] <Mion> >_>
[21:54] <jpds> skinux: Erm, Ubuntu has a debian package for firefox?
[21:55] <bekks> skinux: Ubuntu ships a firefox package in its repos.
[21:55] <skinux> Mion: Well, I use PhpStorm Early Access Program releases, so I don't think there is even a PPA for it.
[21:55] <Mion> skinux: also if you use ppa then you won't actually have to compile the package as ppa does it for you
[21:55] <vixterra> How do I go about getting rid of mouse acceleration when using Gnome 3? The settings dialogue for mouse input is seriously lacking.
[21:56] * Mion would not use a closed source ide
[21:56] <Mion> vixterra: gnome-tweak-tool / dconf
[21:56] <BigMac> ki7rw: Chrome has been having issues in Linux of late. Not sure what is the cause, but it locks up here or constantly crashes Flash or Java. If you have more than two tabs open It will eat up memory. de BigMac
[21:57] <vixterra> Mion, thanks
[21:57] <BBLLCC> 4 Non Blondes - What's Up (CDM).cue | shnsplit -o 4 Non Blondes - What's Up (CDM).flac
[21:57] <BBLLCC> whats wrong with that command?
[21:57] <Mion> BigMac: chrom(e|ium) uses one process per tab, this prevents reuse of resources, but it also increases security by a lot
[21:58] <Mion> BigMac: as for flash and java, stop using them
[21:58] <ki7rw> BigMac, it's a problem on the Windows 7 platform also.
[21:58] <Mion> BBLLCC: 4 Non Blondes - What's Up (CDM).cue is not a command so piping it makes no sense
[21:58] <BigMac> It has been running like crap for the past 6 months ( what ever version that was ).
[21:58] <Mion> BBLLCC: also lacks quotes or escapes
[21:59] <Mion> BBLLCC: tip: use the tab key to autocomplete filenames, it takes care of all the escaping for you
[21:59] <Mion> also saves a lot of typing and typos
[22:01] <juancruz_> que onda
[22:01] <BigMac> ki7rw: de BigMac I noticed that too but is worse in Linux.. At least I can give it a good kick in Windoze but at times I have to restart the PC here in linux becaUSE
[22:01] <BigMac> because it just starts cashing constantly to the hard drive before in completely locks up.
[22:02] <Mion> sounds like a problem with some addon
[22:03] <Mion> or you are on ancient hardware with 500mb of ram or similar
[22:03] <BigMac> Not sure if it is the browser itself or it is due to the HTML5 . I had set Chrome up stripped down and after more than two tabs it starts to slow down. Almost like a memory leak issue.
[22:04] <Kage`> Is there a way to redirect fsck.ufs to put lost+found in another drive? The drive I'm recovering from cannot write basically at all, but reads are seemingly ok.
[22:05] <BBLLCC> cuebreakpoints "4 Non Blondes - What's Up (CDM)".cue | shnsplit -o flac "4 Non Blondes - What's Up (CDM)".flac
[22:05] <BBLLCC> ?
[22:05] <BigMac> ki7rw: Guess you probably noticed the AR jargon I was using?
[22:06] <UnixNub> Question about chmod and ubuntu. If I give a program permissions 770, will I be able to run it?
[22:06] <UnixNub> or does it have to be 777?
[22:07] <Mion> UnixNub: u+x is enough for *you* to be able to run it, asuming you are the owner
[22:07] <ibouvousaime> hey guys
[22:07] <hkrrsx> UnixNub: Using 777 is bad security-wise ..... chmod 755 or how Mion is suggesting would work well
[22:07] <BigMac> Hello
[22:07] <ibouvousaime> I m trying to install some driver for my gpu
[22:07] <Mion> ibouvousaime: which card?
[22:08] <jason__> how can I change the default arguments given to a program for opening specific file types? I want to add some default arguments to vlc for opening videos.
[22:08] <UnixNub> what is u+x?
[22:08] <UnixNub> isnt it r+x?
[22:08] <ibouvousaime> but other programs arent able to see the graphic card actually
[22:08] <ibouvousaime> DO you have any idea ?
[22:09] <Mion> UnixNub: u+x == user +x
[22:09] <Mion> g == group, o == others
[22:09] <Bashing-om> Mion: /7/7/7/ /owner/group/all others/ where 7 is the octal equivalent of read, write,execute permissions. see : https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FilePermissions .
[22:09] <Mion> man chown for details
[22:09] <Mion> a common mistake is thinking that o == owner
[22:10] <Mion> a is ofcourse "all"
[22:10] <Bashing-om> UnixNub: ^^ my apologies Mion :
[22:11] <UnixNub> all? @.@ Isnt it just User/Group/Other?
[22:17] <BBLLCC> mmv 'split-track??.flac' "Track#1#2.flac"
[22:17] <BBLLCC> i dont understand the renaming part
[22:17] <BBLLCC> i need a cue file with the track names
[22:17] <BBLLCC> where is that in that command?
[22:21] <CountryfiedLinux> howdy
[22:21] <CountryfiedLinux> Is there any resources on the color schemes for old distros? I want to make Xubuntu look like Ubuntu 9.04.
[22:22] * genii shivers
[22:23] <CountryfiedLinux> genii, cold?
[22:23] <kostkon> CountryfiedLinux, gnome-look.org a good place to look for that
[22:24] <CountryfiedLinux> first place I checked kostkon
[22:24] <kostkon> CountryfiedLinux, ok
[22:26] <gr33n7007h> CountryfiedLinux: why, why, why 9.04 was ugg!
[22:27] <CountryfiedLinux> gr33n7007h, It's my favorite.
[22:28] <CountryfiedLinux> What is ugg? A hip form of the word ugly?
[22:28] <gr33n7007h> CountryfiedLinux: lol
[22:29] <CountryfiedLinux> I didn't know I said something funny...
[22:29] <hetoin> hello
[22:29] <CountryfiedLinux> Or is that the use of lol as hipster punctuation?
[22:29] <gr33n7007h> CountryfiedLinux: lol
[22:29] <hetoin> тут есть русские
[22:30] <k1l> !ru | hetoin
[22:31] <k1l> CountryfiedLinux: i bet you can find the old wallpapers anywhere. and imho there could be some old theme that looks like the old days, too. that should be enough
[22:32] <xpro256> you can find the old wallpapers in synaptic, i think
[22:33] <CountryfiedLinux> k1l, I'm looking for specific ones. That's why I asked if there's resources for color schemes so that I could apply them myself since I've searched to no avail.
[22:34] <OerHeks> CountryfiedLinux, for a start: all wallpapers http://ubuntu.ecchi.ca/wallpapers/
[22:34] <CountryfiedLinux> OerHeks, I'm looking for color schemes but thanks.
[22:34] <OerHeks> Those colorschemes do not fit, i guess
[22:35] <OerHeks> gnome2 > gnome3+unity
[22:35] <k1l> dont know about xfce themes. i dont use that myself
[22:41] <hetoin> hello
[22:43] <hetoin> Hello my question is, how to make a backup linux
[22:43] <bekks> !backup | hetoin
[22:43] <vitimiti> Hi, is there a way to install Ubuntu from the net?
[22:44] <bekks> vitimiti: You can install Ubuntu using the mini.iso or the netinstall.iso, as well as using PXE.
[22:44] <vitimiti> bekks, I can't use a CD or a flash USB as of now
[22:45] <k1l> !pxe | vitimiti
[22:45] <bekks> vitimiti: Then you have to install using PXE.
[22:45] <hetoin> no you can not
[22:45] <bekks> hetoin: Of course you can.
[22:46] <vitimiti> I can only find things that require apt installs, I'll search some more
[22:47] <bekks> vitimiti: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DisklessUbuntuHowto and https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PXEInstallMultiDistro
[22:48] <nate254> So, I just tried to register and it said my email is already being used. How do I fix this? Or unregister it?
[22:48] <nate254> for irc i mean.
[22:48] <hetoin> guys i have a question how to create a backup manulka
[22:49] <gr33n7007h> nate254: /j #freenode
[22:49] <vitimiti> bekks, I'll try with that, thank you
[22:49] <HomelessSanta> Anyone on Ubuntu 14.04.2 and having trouble pulling in Firefox updates?!?
[22:49] <nate254> gr33n7007h, thanks
[22:49] <vitimiti> bekks, do I need to have that software in the machine where I'll install Ubuntu or in a machine that already has Ubuntu for the other one?
[22:49] <Ben64> HomelessSanta: nope, just you. next question?
[22:50] <Ben64> hetoin: did you look at the backup links that ubottu gave you?
[22:50] <HomelessSanta> Ahh, looks like I'll have to manually update it then I gotcha.
[22:50] <bekks> vitimiti: You have to setup and configure a PXE server (on another machine) and then install using PXE.
[22:50] <Ben64> HomelessSanta: are you getting an error or something?
[22:50] <vitimiti> bekks, thanks
[22:51] <hetoin> I have Linux Mint
[22:51] <HomelessSanta> Ben64, Not getting any errors Ubuntu hasn't even sent me an update to Firefox 37.0.1. and I've been on 36.0.1. for about three weeks now. I'd figure something is wrong with the Software Updates manager or something got pulled from a PPA.
[22:52] <bekks> !mint | hetoin
[22:52] <Ben64> HomelessSanta: run "sudo apt-get update", then run "apt-cache policy firefox" and paste the result
[22:52] <Ben64> pastebin the result*
[22:53] <HomelessSanta> KK, Ben64.
[22:54] <CountryfiedLinux> I ended up just installing virtualbox, downloading 9.04, booting it up, and writing down the color codes myself.
[22:54] <CountryfiedLinux> It's a shame that the old theme color codes aren't archived.
[22:54] <HomelessSanta> Ben64, Haven't used Pastebin in a long time hopefully it shows the link: http://pastebin.com/EyYMKb8M
[22:55] <Ben64> HomelessSanta: well theres your problem. you're on some weird mirror that isn't keeping up with the updates
[22:56] <HomelessSanta> Ben64, Basically implying that if I change the mirror it should appear. Well I'll have to see if that happens.
[22:56] <HomelessSanta> brb
[22:57] <Ben64> HomelessSanta: i'm guessing you have a vps through arpnetworks and the server came with that repository by default
[22:57] <HomelessSanta> Ben64, Nah I don't even know how to use a VPN or VPS. I had to switch servers over the Main Server simply due to it wasn't working and the speeds I was getting were terrible at the time.
[22:58] <HomelessSanta> Going to revert back to the Main Server to see if it at least gives me a package. If not I'd figure either use a PPA or manually grab it then install it.
[22:59] <HomelessSanta> Ben64, Thanks a lot bud that seemed to have fixed the problem.
[22:59] <Ben64> HomelessSanta: well how did you find that random mirror
[23:01] <HomelessSanta> Ben64, In "Software & Updates" you can select different servers aka mirrors. From the 'Download from' option when you click on Other.
[23:02] <HomelessSanta> Cause sometimes the Main Server doesn't work, down for maintenance or is just general slow.
[23:02] <upsideout> memcache time ?
[23:02] <Ben64> HomelessSanta: next time check here :) https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+archivemirrors
[23:03] <HomelessSanta> Ben64, Will do bud.
[23:04] <HomelessSanta> brb gotta update real quick.
[23:04] <frank__> hello all!
[23:04] <frank__> question: where does ubuntu's kwallet store it's info? does it at any time upload it somewhere?
[23:06] <pbx> frank__, that's a KDE feature, not an ubuntu feature -- but AFAIK it is purely local. people who want to have it sync probably use dropbox and a symlink.
[23:07] <six_> is this the ubuntu help channel or is there another channel for that?
[23:07] <Ben64> this is it
[23:08] <ianorlin> six_ it is in the topic :)
[23:08] <frank__> pbx, thanks, actually I prefer it to be local
[23:08] <HomelessSanta> Ben64, Thanks a lot bud just had to do some updating. :P
[23:09] <frank__> pbx, I don't trust "the cloud"
[23:09] <Ben64> !yay | HomelessSanta
[23:09] <vitimiti> This PXE installation is too difficult for me, too bad
[23:09] <HomelessSanta> There's a lot of little commands I wouldn't have known like that hehehe.
[23:09] <six_> I have a DLink DWL 520+ PCI adapter and ive read all the forum posts on it, and ive got it "working" with ndiswrapper but when i login it asks for the network password, despite network security is turned off, and when i try to fix that manually it just sits there and trys to connect then disconnects after about 60 seconds
[23:14] <six_> Oh im in Ubuntu 11.04 too
[23:15] <Ben64> six_: that version hasn't been supported for 30 months
[23:15] <six_> Its the only version that will work on the older computer...
[23:16] <Ben64> not true
[23:16] <ianorlin> six_ have you heard of lubuntu?
[23:16] <kostkon> six_, how old? what's the specs. You could install xubuntu 14.04
[23:16] <six_> So what you are saying is that if i upgrade to Xubuntu or Lubuntu the card should work - or are you just saying that because you think i should upgrade anyways?
[23:17] <six_> Because from what i read the card works better on older versions
[23:17] <six_> In ubuntu 6 it worked out of the box
[23:17] <Ben64> you're not going to get any support until you run a supported version
[23:17] <six_> Thats what i thought...
[23:21] <HomelessSanta> Newer kernels always support newer hardware 'Out of the box'. Hence, unsupported versions might not have the necessary driver module to correctly use the video card.
[23:21] <HomelessSanta> :P
[23:21] <daftykins> the user left
[23:21] <HomelessSanta> Ahh!!!
[23:22] <HomelessSanta> Thankies.
[23:22] <Ben64> yep, sometimes like running an outdated version with all kinds of bugs and vulnerabilities
[23:25] <HomelessSanta> No doubt just like my Firefox, VLC and Thunderbird being outdated along with my Linux Kernel. :P
[23:31] <DalekSec> !ops | botnet
[23:35] <byerley> Hi, I'd like to shrink my main partition using ubuntu on a USB drive (in preparation for adding windows), but gparted is throwing a bunch of error messages (possibly related to a previous recovery?) and I'm not sure if I should ignore them or not? - here's the terminal output: http://paste.ubuntu.com/10767845/
[23:38] <HomelessSanta> I am off enjoy the rest of the day.
[23:40] <Bashing-om> byerley: Are you booting a liveUSB thus able to work on 'sda' ? This " Device or resource busy. " seems to indicate you are working from 'sda' .
[23:47] <byerley> Bashing-om: Currently working exclusively from the USB as far as I know. "umount /dev/sda" returns "not mounted" and according to lsblk I don't actually have a /dev/sda2
[23:50] <Bashing-om> byerley: Odd, then .. Do you have any care for what is on the hard drive presently ? such that one can over write the disk with zeros ?
[23:55] <byerley> Bashing-om: I guess I'll try to backup and do a cleanish install. Out of curiosity, does it matter where the swap partition is in relation to the main? (If they were on either side of a Windows partition for example)
|
ubuntu-chat
|
2024-05-13T22:11:16.111943
| 2015-04-07T00:00:00 |
{
"license": "Public Domain",
"authors": [
"ANJ7",
"ActionParsnip",
"BBLLCC",
"Bashing-om",
"Ben64",
"BigMac",
"BlueMagma",
"BluesKaj",
"CountryfiedLinux",
"DJJeff",
"DalekSec",
"Dashell",
"Dashell_",
"DazPetty",
"DrkShadow",
"Edico",
"Eightynine",
"EriC^^",
"Exagone313",
"Flugz",
"Fuchs",
"GreenScreen",
"Guest45682",
"Guest46650",
"Guest55",
"Guest92551",
"Hailwood",
"HomelessSanta",
"Hun9ryH1ppo",
"IVBakker",
"Impaloo",
"John",
"Jonno_FTW",
"JustSighDudes",
"Kaby",
"Kage`",
"Kenb",
"Kiel1",
"MLLLLL",
"Meinskur",
"MiDOZAlayyoubi",
"Mion",
"MonkeyDust",
"ObrienDave",
"OerHeks",
"PCatinean",
"PHPLearner",
"Pici",
"Pinkamena_D",
"RDX4OO",
"Ragu",
"RichieRich",
"Rory",
"SCHAAP137",
"SVCR3D-SHVD0WS",
"SchrodingersScat",
"Sebe579",
"SebePlays",
"Seramon",
"Sl0P3",
"Sohail-Ahmed",
"SonikkuAmerica",
"StanDarsh",
"Sunstream",
"TheC4mel",
"Umeaboy",
"UnixNub",
"W4RU",
"Wulf",
"Zoohouse",
"_ACID__",
"ablest1980",
"acz32",
"aeon-ltd",
"agent47",
"agent_white",
"akkad",
"aladiah",
"alesan",
"aliman",
"arcsky",
"area51pilot",
"ayahia56",
"b3n_123",
"baracude",
"baum",
"baxx",
"bekks",
"bepolite",
"bogdan",
"boring",
"bparker",
"bprompt",
"buntuer",
"byerley",
"caveira",
"cfhowlett",
"cgenius",
"chotaz`work",
"cjoseph",
"cluelessperson",
"codepeak",
"compdoc",
"cross`",
"cxy",
"dadu",
"daftykins",
"dancular",
"davevanloo",
"deadmund",
"demoz_",
"deraadt",
"digitsm",
"djhenry",
"docmur",
"dragly",
"duckey",
"dukey",
"dv__",
"edition",
"eksperimental",
"eletious",
"emilsp",
"enchilado",
"epinky",
"erwin",
"fearless",
"feodoran",
"foo",
"frank__",
"gabriele",
"geirha",
"genii",
"gr33n7007h",
"grio",
"gunndawg",
"halfburnttoast",
"hateball",
"headkase",
"help_meeee",
"hetoin",
"hkrrsx",
"htqp",
"hunteriam",
"ianorlin",
"ibouvousaime",
"ibouvousaime_",
"ifonly",
"ikonia",
"indoctrinated",
"intrin",
"ioria",
"iptable",
"itry",
"jason__",
"javnut",
"jjavaholic",
"johnjohn101",
"jpds",
"juancruz_",
"k1l",
"k1l_",
"k3asd`",
"kamek",
"kamysa",
"kart",
"kemmler",
"ki7rw",
"knob",
"kohaner",
"kokut",
"kostkon",
"leeyaa",
"leftyv",
"linuxuz3r",
"littlebit",
"lotuspsychje",
"luc4",
"lyndel4",
"m1dnight_",
"majornikku",
"mallu",
"manuel",
"marus",
"mastranios",
"mau5cat",
"mchelen1",
"mehdi",
"mekia",
"mentoc",
"mickyu",
"mjuszczak",
"mllll",
"mmartinez",
"momken",
"momomo",
"moushira",
"mrwheels",
"n2dam",
"n473",
"naftilos76",
"nahtnam",
"narcislinux",
"nate254",
"netan",
"nimbiotics",
"nmz787",
"obre",
"olle",
"orion",
"pavlos",
"pavlos_",
"pbx",
"progamer",
"pzykotic",
"rajesh_",
"ramen69",
"ramen69__",
"rblst",
"rgb-one",
"robroy",
"rofltech",
"rori",
"rprakash",
"shiv",
"silvano",
"six_",
"skinux",
"somsip",
"stacks88",
"streulma",
"superrorc",
"svalo",
"teward",
"tgm4883",
"thegrreat",
"timer159",
"tnkhanh",
"tuda",
"twenty-three",
"ubuntuser13",
"ugurkoltuk",
"umbra_purus",
"unixnub",
"upsideout",
"urmumstty",
"vitimiti",
"vixterra",
"vlkm",
"wafflejock",
"willbradley",
"wiuempe",
"wzrd",
"x85",
"xangua",
"xpro256",
"y7u3",
"yorwos",
"yossarianuk",
"zaggynl",
"zen_",
"zero_coder",
"zerowaitstate",
"zetheroo",
"zh1",
"{TITAN}"
],
"url": "https://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2015/04/07/%23ubuntu.txt",
"channel": "#ubuntu"
}
|
2015-04-07-#ubuntu-quality
|
[09:02] <flexiondotorg> elfy, cyphermox I remember the /etc/passwd 0600 thing. I'll check my notes...
[09:04] <flexiondotorg> elfy, cyphermox That was mentioned in relation to Language selection not being available in Ubiquity.
[13:49] <elopio> ping jibel. I set up snappy on a kvm to get started, this is easy in case you want to give it a try: http://www.ubuntu.com/cloud/tools/snappy#snappy-local
[14:03] <elopio> fgimenez: brendand: rhuddie: vila: stand up?
[14:04] <brendand> elopio, i knew i forgot someone :)
[14:07] <jibel> Hey elopio, thanks for the link. I'll give it a try
[14:24] <elopio> jibel: now I'm looking at this: http://www.wefearchange.org/2015/04/creating-python-snaps.html
[14:24] <elopio> Looks nice to get started with the packaging.
[14:24] <elfy> flexiondotorg: thanks
[14:24] <elopio> vila: ^ you might want to take a look too, for the sprint.
[14:24] <elfy> and good afternoon quality channel peeps :)
[14:35] <vila> elopio: I read it indeed a few days ago
[16:45] <flexiondotorg> elfy, Are you about?
[16:47] <flexiondotorg> infinity, Regarding - https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubuntu-drivers-common/+bug/1434579
[16:47] <flexiondotorg> infinity, I've just tested because it is marked a Fix Released, but it is not fixed as far as I can tell :(
[16:47] <infinity> flexiondotorg: Hey, yeah, got distracted a bit, will be working on it shortly.
[16:47] <infinity> flexiondotorg: The only part that's Fixed Released was the kernel task. :P
[16:48] <infinity> flexiondotorg: There are several more bits that need fixing.
[16:48] <flexiondotorg> infinity, Oh. OK, fair enough :)
[16:49] <flexiondotorg> infinity, How are High and Critical bugs "handled"? Is there someone who collates a list of important stuff and monitors progress?
[16:49] <flexiondotorg> infinity, Just wondering who has visibility.
[16:50] <infinity> flexiondotorg: There are some tags for release tracking (See: http://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-v-tracking-bug-tasks.html), but this bug isn't so tagged, since I was working on it anyway.
[16:50] <flexiondotorg> infinity, Don't get me wrong. I was not referring to this bug.
[16:50] <infinity> flexiondotorg: As much as it would be nice to track by "high" and "critical" there are too many of those to get a handle on most of the time.
[16:51] <flexiondotorg> infinity, It was a general question. I realise there are many High and Critical bugs.
[16:52] <flexiondotorg> infinity, I'm trying to work out how to help progress some of the Critical bugs that have been picked up in QA.
[16:53] <infinity> flexiondotorg: So, that tag tracking page is what some Canonical teams use internally. But there are as many ways to slice the bug database as there are ways to break a computer, so others are welcome to come up with their own views and find things that need escalating within their own teams (or to us).
[16:53] <flexiondotorg> infinity, Understood.
[16:54] <infinity> flexiondotorg: bdmurray probably has a better handle on how we do all of this more formally, I tend to just sort of wing it when people bring me things on IRC that sound appropriately scary enough to be worth panicking about, or small enough to be worth spending five minutes fixing.
[16:57] <flexiondotorg> infinity, Thanks for explaining.
[16:58] <elopio> zsombi: how can we help?
[16:59] <zsombi> elopio: I tried to create the JSON file under ~/.config/url-dispatcher/urls for the temp app, but somehow I failed to get the app launched...
[17:01] <elopio> zsombi: we need two apps. The first one opens, but when you click the link on that one, the second one doesn't open. Is that right?
[17:01] <zsombi> elopio: so, in order to launch the app thru url-dispatcher, we must drop an <appid>.urldispatcher file in the path I mentioned. I failed to do that :(
[17:01] <zsombi> elopio: we don't necessarily need two apps, or maybe yes... cannot teh AP launcher do the job?
[17:02] <elopio> zsombi: there is a command line tool url-dispatcher that can do it.
[17:02] <zsombi> elopio: like the current app launcher has also a url parameter, wouldn't that do the job in this case?
[17:04] <elopio> wow, it's really hard to remember. One of you guys was working with uri parameters. The other was working with URL dispatcher.
[17:04] <elopio> zsombi: can you tell me again what was the test you were doing?
[17:04] <zsombi> elopio: I've added you to the SDK trello board/card
[17:05] <zsombi> elopio: I was trying to extend the test branch kalikiana gave me on the StateSaver branch, but wasn't successful
[17:05] <zsombi> elopio: and btw, the feature only works on the device
[17:05] <zsombi> elopio: no support on desktop QPA :(
[17:06] <elopio> right, I remember that.
[17:07] <elopio> zsombi: at the moment, I can't spend much time in this because I have to finish the tasks for our sprint. You need to talk with brendand so we plan some time to spend in this.
[17:07] <elopio> the sprint finishes on thursday, so this is a good time.
[17:08] <zsombi> elopio: ok, thx
[17:08] <zsombi> brendand: r u with us? :)
[17:21] <PaulW2U> bdrc
[17:49] <elfy> flexiondotorg: on and off
[17:55] <brendand> zsombi, hello
[17:56] <zsombi> brendand: hello, I need elopio's help - or someone else's - on the url-dispatcher tests in uitk
[17:57] <brendand> zsombi, can you attend our prioritization meeting tomorrow?
[17:57] <zsombi> brendand: time?
[17:57] <brendand> zsombi, it's at 1600UTC
[17:57] <zsombi> brendand: uuuhh... I can try... that's 7pm for me...
[17:58] <brendand> jfunk, the sdk team need some time to work on url-dispatcher tests
[17:59] <jfunk> brendand: needs help from us, or time to do it themselves
[17:59] <brendand> jfunk, some of our time, i meant
[17:59] <zsombi> brendand: jfunk: more precisely on a FW in UITK launcher where we can launch an app as it would have been invoked by url-dispatcher
[18:00] <brendand> jfunk, zsombi is not sure he will be able to attend the prio meeting
[18:00] <jfunk> FW
[18:00] <jfunk> ?
[18:01] <zsombi> jfunk: there are two ways to launch an app in toolkit AP, the old way (the QML app is an embedded string) or the new way - the QML app is a physical file
[18:01] <zsombi> jfunk: sorry, I call it as fw, though it's a CPO :D
[18:02] <zsombi> jfunk: so, the string version as well as teh file version creates some desktop file with fake exec line in ~/.shared/..... folder
[18:03] <zsombi> jfunk: tedg said an <appid>.urldispatcher file must be created in ~/.config/url-dispatcher/urls which would list the protocols the app can handle
[18:03] <zsombi> jfunk: I tried that, and nothing happened :/
[18:05] <jfunk> zsombi: brendand: is this a confirmed bug in AP?
[18:06] <jfunk> sounds like the tests are not what is needing help, however testability enablement
[18:06] <zsombi> jfunk: I don't think it is, tbh all teh apps are click-packed, which are launched well with AP
[18:07] <zsombi> jfunk: what I'd need is a solution for temporary test apps
[18:07] <brendand> zsombi, jfunk - doesn't sound like a whole story, but you just need a little help to figure this out?
[18:07] <zsombi> brendand: kinda yes...
[18:07] <brendand> if anything there's an issue with url-dispatcher i think
[18:07] <zsombi> brendand: I'd need it to test the StateSaver behavior with url-dispatcher
[18:07] <elopio> it could be a problem with how we make the test application.
[18:08] <zsombi> brendand: well... the fake exec line may also be a problem, and I'm not that familiar with AP so I could dig that out
[18:08] <jfunk> brendand: elopio: has anyone spend the "1-hr vanguard" investigation time?
[18:08] <elopio> or a url dispatcher problem. Or we are missing one step to make it work.
[18:09] <jfunk> if it ends up taking more I'll create a card
[18:09] <brendand> jfunk, i don't think so
[18:09] <zsombi> elopio: that ~/.config/... path thing is also for testing, and has not been used for years...
[18:09] <zsombi> so it may not even work...
[18:09] <brendand> elopio, can you spend an hour and co-ordinate with jfunk if a whole story is needed
[18:09] <jfunk> who is vanguard right now>
[18:09] <elopio> jfunk: I think it will take more than one hour to understand what it's going on. More like 3.
[18:10] <brendand> jfunk, it would be elopio since everyone else if (officially) eod
[18:10] <jfunk> ok, well, 3 hours is a little long
[18:10] <brendand> obviously i'm here but just going to have dinner and eod
[18:10] <om26er> ubuntu-qa I have been trying to run autopilot tests on my device and have consistently had issues. phablet-click-test-setup fails with http://paste.ubuntu.com/10764820/
[18:10] <jfunk> zsombi: how urgently do you need
[18:11] <om26er> adt-run on the other throws dbus permission errors
[18:11] <elopio> jfunk: brendand: yes, I'm vanguard. But I would prefer to have a card for this, so somebody works with zsombi and tedg early on the next sprint.
[18:11] <zsombi> jfunk: we have a pretty high priority bug on it, blocking messaging app, and bfiller
[18:11] <brendand> om26er, are you running on rtm?
[18:12] <elopio> om26er: report a bug to phablet-tools?
[18:12] <jfunk> zsombi: which bug, what milestone is it targeted at?
[18:12] <jfunk> bfiller: ^
[18:12] <om26er> brendand, yes
[18:12] <jfunk> bfiller: do you concur that this is urgent enough that is cannot wait unti mid-week next?
[18:12] <brendand> om26er, you need to tell it that
[18:12] <zsombi> jfunk: seems it had not been prioritized for system images... https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubuntu-ui-toolkit/+bug/1429899
[18:13] <brendand> om26er, --distro=ubuntu-rtm --series=14.09
[18:13] <jfunk> zsombi: so you're saying it can wait for help unti mid-week next?
[18:14] <zsombi> jfunk: so it looks like...
[18:15] <om26er> brendand, oh boy, that seems to be downloading atleast
[18:24] <bfiller> jfunk, zsombi : it's blocking a story that is supposed to land end of week, but it can wait till mid-next week if you guys are busy
[18:24] <bfiller> so not super critical but would like to get it done soon
[18:25] <jfunk> bfiller: ack, we'll create a spike story to investigate start of next week
[18:25] <davmor2> om26er: did you try the adt way of running them that seems to work atleast
[18:26] <om26er> davmor2, both adt and direct from device give me this: http://paste.ubuntu.com/10764980/
[18:26] <om26er> elopio, ^
[18:26] <davmor2> om26er: no idea then
[18:28] <elopio> om26er: do you have the latest adt-run?
[18:28] <elopio> om26er: and when running directly from the device, did you do the dbus probe?
[18:28] <om26er> elopio, 3.12ubuntu1
[18:30] <om26er> elopio, no, I hadn't, doing now.
[18:31] <elopio> adt-run should do it for you. So report a bug affecting autopkgtest, gallery-app and autopilot. If you have time, debug it to understand why it's not working.
[18:33] <om26er> elopio, the problem I found with adt-run was on each run it tried to re-download the source, makes things kind of slow
[18:33] <om26er> also I did dbus probe and I am still having the same problem
[18:33] <om26er> elopio, how can I duplicate whats running in the lab do you know ?
[18:37] <elopio> om26er: http://ubuntu-test-cases-touch.readthedocs.org/en/latest/
[18:37] <elopio> om26er: sounds like a problem in autopilot or the gallery then.
[18:38] <om26er> elopio, thanks for the link. I'll flash clean just to be sure.
[19:00] <tedg> elopio, I'm back, sounds like things were punted, but I can answer questions if needed.
[20:47] <ToyKeeper> ubuntu-qa, where can we find screenshot artifacts after a failed automated sanity test run? I see some mentioned in the test log but can't seem to find the actual files.
[20:48] <veebers> ToyKeeper: it will be available in the subunit file
[20:49] <veebers> ToyKeeper: I suggest using the trv tool that thomi created to view the file
[21:29] <dobey> they *should* be in the subunit file
[21:30] <dobey> but the version of testtools in ubuntu is quite outdated and has many bugs, one of which results in often things not being attached in the subunit file, as they should be
[21:30] <dobey> but the testtools in ppa:dobey/testtools makes it much better
[21:31] <dobey> it only has packages for trusty and vivid though, at the moment
[21:32] <dobey> so probably won't be very helpful on rtm :-/
[21:32] <dobey> anyway, time for me to go
[22:57] <elopio> veebers: nuclearbob: lets make the schedule for the vanguard during the second part of the day.
[22:57] <elopio> here comes a proposal...
[22:59] <elopio> elopio: 17:00 UTC - 20:00 UTC
[22:59] <elopio> nuclearbob: 20:00 UTC - 23:00 UTC
[22:59] <elopio> veebers: 23:00 UTC - 2:00 UTC
[22:59] <elopio> I'm not sure if that's too late for you nuclearbob. We can switch if so.
[23:02] <veebers> elopio: good idea, works for me
[23:13] <elopio> veebers: nuclearbob: I'm making a new calendar.
[23:19] <elopio> veebers: do we have autolanding on the power branch?
[23:21] <veebers> elopio: oh good question, I can't remember asking for that to be setup, so probably not
[23:23] <elopio> veebers: I will add it as a task in the card to add unit tests.
[23:23] <elopio> doesn't make a lot of sense to have autolanding with no tests.
[23:24] <veebers> elopio: hmm, autolanding is nice as it takes care of the merging once 'Approved'
[23:25] <elopio> veebers: ok, I'll ping CI. I added on the card the task to make sure we tell CI to add the tests to the autolanding run.
[23:30] <veebers> coolio
|
ubuntu-chat
|
2024-05-13T22:11:16.138500
| 2015-04-07T00:00:00 |
{
"license": "Public Domain",
"authors": [
"PaulW2U",
"ToyKeeper",
"bfiller",
"brendand",
"davmor2",
"dobey",
"elfy",
"elopio",
"flexiondotorg",
"infinity",
"jfunk",
"jibel",
"om26er",
"tedg",
"veebers",
"vila",
"zsombi"
],
"url": "https://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2015/04/07/%23ubuntu-quality.txt",
"channel": "#ubuntu-quality"
}
|
2015-04-07-#ubuntu-cn
|
[00:00] <^k^> 新 初学者园地 - 14.10 • 求助！软件卸载失败（post-removal 脚本）问题 拜托了！！！！ http://forum.ubuntu.org.cn/viewtopic.php?t=469335 软件卸载失败 问题提示 下列软件包将被【卸载】： mbuntu-y-docky-skins-v4 升级了 0 个软件包，新安装了 0 个软件包，要卸载 1 个软件包，有 2 个软件包未被升级。 有
[00:01] <jusss> 昌平线人多
[00:50] <jusssss> test
[00:50] <^k^> jusssss:点点点. 08:50
[00:50] <grass> .........
[00:51] <^k^> 新 初学者园地 - 14.10 • 请问如何确定ubuntu使用了正确的无线网卡驱动？ http://forum.ubuntu.org.cn/viewtopic.php?t=469340 RT，因为感觉ubuntu下wifi信号比win8.1差好多，我应该怎么确定，我有没有使用正确的驱动？ 网卡是intel wireless 7260 谢谢！ description: Wireless interface product: Wireless 7260 vendor: Intel Corp
[00:51] <^k^> ─> oration physical id: 0 bus info: pci@0000:03:00.0 logical name: wlan0 version: 73 serial: a0:a8:cd:d8:93:39 width: …
[00:59] <jiero> 留了8年记录的。。。
[01:00] <jusssss> jiero: what
[01:00] <jiero> jusssss: 今天早上觉得人生真没意义。
[01:01] <yunfan> eehttp://www.cnbeta.com/articles/383223.htm 这新闻要给ee看
[01:01] <^k^> yunfan: ⇪ 深圳36岁IT男猝死酒店马桶上_cnBeta 人物_cnBeta.COM
[01:01] <jusssss> jiero: suicide
[01:01] <jiero> jusssss: 马上就被机器人取代，只能用自己过去评判
[01:01] <jiero> jusssss: 不，我要活到被机器人毁灭的那一天，不远了
[01:02] <jiero> yunfan: 你有召唤技能
[01:02] <yunfan> eexpss: http://www.cnbeta.com/articles/383223.htm 看看这个新闻
[01:02] <jiero> eexpss: [09:01:14] <yunfan> eehttp://www.cnbeta.com/articles/383223.htm 这新闻要给ee看
[01:03] <jiero> yunfan: eexpss已经不止36岁了
[01:03] <yunfan> http://www.cnbeta.com/articles/383275.htm jiero 这个很有前途 叫你哥哥投资
[01:03] <^k^> ⇪ ti: 硅谷风投押注科技新农业：五大领域受关注_Google / 谷歌_cnBeta.COM
[01:04] <jiero> yunfan: 。。。
[01:05] <eexpss> yunfan: momo 小傻瓜
[01:05] <jiero> yunfan: 他在这里赚钱不比在硅谷多好像。
[01:06] <jusssss> 联通覆盖太弱了
[01:07] <jiero> eexpss: 关心你呢 -
[01:07] <yunfan> eexpss: 注意身体哦 哈哈
[01:08] <yunfan> jiero: 所以应该扩大投资领域
[01:08] <jiero> yunfan: 哦哦哦哦哦。
[01:16] * jusss 困
[01:16] <jiero> yunfan: 3D 打印假肢
[01:26] <gfxmode> 以后Coding和项目管理的事情，交给机器人来做，可行不？
[01:43] <yunfan> gfxmode: 可行 至少中层管理以后没市场 就跟cpp差不多
[01:45] <jiero> yun
[01:58] <BuMangHuo> ....
[02:06] <^k^> 新 网卡问题以及网络和拨号 • 关于adsl拨号之后，内网dhcp不到地址问题。 http://forum.ubuntu.org.cn/viewtopic.php?t=469341 我在家里设置了adsl拨号，到公司之后内网地址获取不到了。只能用户无限。adsl没有设置自动连接。我之后又删除了。adsl的配置。还算不行 。 多出来一个eth0：avahi link encap
[02:06] <^k^> ─> 如何解决。求大虾指点。 {code} iceting@iceting:~$ ifconfig eth0 Link encap:以太网 硬件地址 2c:d4: …
[02:08] * tryit 用着一层层嵌套的vmware，有一种盗梦空间的感觉……
[02:09] <BuMangHuo> tryit: 还能嵌套用啊？
[02:09] <BuMangHuo> tryit: 以前我记得不能在 vmware 里面再装 vmware 来着
[02:10] <tryit> BuMangHuo, 还真有人在vmware里装vmware啊，我只是YY一下，几个vmware guest切来切去的好麻烦……
[02:13] <jusss> tryit: 还没用过vm
[02:13] <jusss> tryit: xen可以多层嵌套据说
[02:33] <gfxmode> 256M内存的VMWare里，可以再装256M内存的VMWare么？
[02:41] <gfxmode> http://m.cnbeta.com/wap/view_383333.htm
[02:41] <^k^> gfxmode: ⇪ 华为荣耀路由器发售：188元_移动版(WAP)_cnBeta.COM
[03:08] <^k^> 新 系统安装和升级 • Ubuntu 14.04.2 安装完后 ctrl+alt +F1不能打开 tty1(屏幕上什么都没有，连提示符也没有) http://forum.ubuntu.org.cn/viewtopic.php?t=469342 Ubuntu 14.04.2 安装完后,按 ctrl+alt +F1 -6不能打开 tty1-6(屏幕上什么都没有，一片漆黑，连提示符和光标也没有),但是按 ctrl+alt +F7 可以切回图形界面
[03:08] <^k^> ─> ，请教各位大侠这到底是怎么回事啊？系统是新装的，未做任何更改，只是更新了一下 …
[03:18] <onlylove> jiero: 二代，现在在哪高就呢，别说你没工作还
[03:24] <jiero> onlylove: 去年一样
[03:51] <QiongMangHuo> kandu: 买买买
[03:59] <kandu> QiongMangHuo: 买啥呀
[04:02] <jiero> kandu: 买什么？
[04:02] <jiero> QiongMangHuo: 买什么
[04:02] <jiero> QiongMangHuo: 哦哦哦。。。我不支倒地了。
[04:04] <QiongMangHuo> kandu: tp啊
[04:04] <kandu> onlylove: 二代怎么能高就。这二代已经高无可高，只能低就。
[04:05] <kandu> QiongMangHuo: 哦，是的。太空人都用
[04:06] <kandu> QiongMangHuo: 最近喝茶把老底都掏光了，过些时候再入手
[04:06] <QiongMangHuo> kandu: 你这是喝得多贵的啊...
[04:11] <BuMangHuo> QiongMangHuo: 早早早
[04:12] <BuMangHuo> if_e1se: if_else 俩 id 壕 造
[04:12] <BuMangHuo> kandu: 你海量啊？
[04:12] <BuMangHuo> 茶叶一两都能喝挺长时间啊
[04:14] <kandu> BuMangHuo: 没，我穷啊，稍微喝一小点就得掏老底了
[04:31] <BuMangHuo> kandu: 这你就没劲了，又不借
[04:32] <onlylove_> http://www.solidot.org/story?sid=43601
[04:33] <^k^> ⇪ ti: Solidot | LG不小心中提前曝光了苹果的8K iMac
[04:33] <onlylove_> 土豪马不在
[04:33] <yunfan> BuMangHuo: 看你怎么喝 像我哥哥那样打茶叶羹是肯定喝不了多长
[04:33] * yunfan 回来没bbq吃真不爽
[04:33] <onlylove_> yunfan: 你可以考虑考虑开一家
[04:34] <yunfan> onlylove_: 按那个价格我怕开不起来 来吃的估计都憋个几天才来
[04:34] <yunfan> 那我开不了几天就要亏死了
[04:37] <onlylove_> BuMangHuo: 顺便说，如果喝过好茶，便宜茶貌似喝不出味道来
[04:39] <onlylove_> yunfan: 憋几天不吃一顿海吃其实吃不了多少，反正吃多了自己还难受
[04:41] <onlylove_> 天热了，不知道交换机放的位置温度咋样
[04:41] <onlylove_> 要是一起上升，那才好
[04:43] <yunfan> onlylove_: 那是你大城市里的人 我这里可不一样 都是 jiero jusss这种的
[04:43] <onlylove_> 到时候交换机天天死机，然后一堆人吼IT
[04:43] <EO22> O0XX: 富丽阳光美元
[04:43] <EO22> 园
[04:44] <O0XX> EO22: 你查 知本时代
[04:45] <EO22> O0XX: 我打不开啊
[04:48] <BuMangHuo> 这俩人说的什么黑话？
[04:48] <BuMangHuo> 谁帮忙翻译翻译
[04:48] <jusss`> onlylove: bash好难看
[04:48] <EO22> 发烧躺在床上给男票发信息说：“发烧了…”（想用短短几个字表示自己虚弱到无法打字）
[04:48] <EO22> 他回：“多喝水被子捂紧”
[04:48] <EO22> 我：“…39.2度”（满心期望他瞬间冒着冬天的风突然出现在我家楼下叫我下楼）
[04:48] <EO22> 他：“牛逼啊！”
[04:48] <BuMangHuo> onlylove: 你现在的网络状态和交换机天天死机有区别？
[04:51] <QiongMangHuo> EO22: lol
[04:52] <EO22> QiongMangHuo: 乖.
[04:52] <BuMangHuo> QiongMangHuo: 你们上次去 130 的时候，有没有带打气筒之类的？
[04:52] <QiongMangHuo> BuMangHuo: 应该有人带了
[04:52] <QiongMangHuo> BuMangHuo: 他们都很专业
[04:53] <BuMangHuo> QiongMangHuo: 对啊，我记得你们准备的时候准备了挺长时间的样子
[04:53] <jusss`> QiongMangHuo: bash脚本里一行以下划线开头后面接一文件是怎么回事？
[04:53] <QiongMangHuo> jusss`: 不知道你在说什么
[04:53] <jusss`> QiongMangHuo: _ /root/xxx/xxx
[04:53] <jusss`> #!/bin/sh
[04:54] <jusss`> _ /root/xxx/xxx
[04:54] * BuMangHuo 淘个打气筒去
[04:54] <jusss`> _ /root/xxx.inc
[04:59] <QiongMangHuo> jusss`: 不知道啊, 只知道.是source 下划线是什么就不知道了
[05:00] <jusss`> QiongMangHuo: 我看错了，是.
[05:00] <jusss`> QiongMangHuo: 在gvim里把.看成_了，
[05:01] <QiongMangHuo> jusss`: ...
[05:01] <jusss`> QiongMangHuo: 是gvim显示的问题，我换成Notepad一看原来是.
[05:01] <QiongMangHuo> jusss`: 渣渣
[05:02] <jusss`> QiongMangHuo: bash脚本里全是sed awk，真看不懂
[05:03] <jusss`> 各种grep sed awk一长行，果然不是给人看的
[05:03] <onlylove> BuMangHuo: 淘打气筒作甚，EO22昨天不是给你推荐实体的么
[05:04] <BuMangHuo> onlylove: ......
[05:04] <BuMangHuo> onlylove: 给车胎打气
[05:05] <BuMangHuo> onlylove: 昨天单枪匹马去130, 结果路上发现前胎瘪了，然后回来了
[05:05] <BuMangHuo> 完全是准备不充分导致的啊
[05:08] <O0XX> QiongMangHuo: 你上次给我的那个看图片的软件叫什么来着?
[05:10] <yunfan> http://detail.tmall.com/item.htm?id=17747881363 这个看起来蛮不错的 可以折叠 带在车上 要是弄个发电机在上面 不是可以用来紧急充电么 脚踏功率输出可比手摇的高多了
[05:10] <^k^> yunfan: ⇪ 动感单车家用超静音室内磁控车脚踏蓝堡健身器材运动自行车健身车 ▼ 综合功能超强的健身车：提臀，美腰，收腹，塑形，瘦腿，提高心肺功能，增强体质； ▼ （全家适用）健身神器，每天骑一下，甩掉肥胖亚健康； ▼ 4.9超高全好
[05:10] <yunfan> cc QiongMangHuo 你给指点下 ？
[05:11] <QiongMangHuo> O0XX: sxiv?
[05:11] <QiongMangHuo> O0XX: mirage?
[05:12] <QiongMangHuo> O0XX: 应该是mirage
[05:12] <O0XX> QiongMangHuo: en
[05:12] <O0XX> QiongMangHuo: 就这个
[05:12] <yunfan> 你们要用mirage了 ？
[05:13] <onlylove> yunfan: mirage看图不错
[05:13] <QiongMangHuo> freeflying: 又一个10%, 来请客撒
[05:13] <jusss`> QiongMangHuo: bash里的函数可以不带关键字function ?
[05:13] <QiongMangHuo> jusss`: 可以
[05:13] <yunfan> onlylove: 我以为是 openmirage那个操作系统呢
[05:13] <QiongMangHuo> jusss`: 两种写法
[05:14] * onlylove 都忘了shell的func怎么写了
[05:15] <jusss`> QiongMangHuo: 一种是 foo() {...} 另一种是 function foo {...} ?
[05:16] <QiongMangHuo> jusss`: 对
[05:16] <QiongMangHuo> jusss`: 去看abs
[05:24] <QiongMangHuo> O0XX: 收了我的cubieboard吧
[05:24] <O0XX> QiongMangHuo: 跟我老板说
[05:24] <O0XX> QiongMangHuo: 我只负责买...
[05:28] <^k^> 新 常用硬件支持 • 警告: 链接组 x86_64-linux-gnu_gl_conf 已损坏,求解决办法 http://forum.ubuntu.org.cn/viewtopic.php?t=469346 flobit@Flobit-pc:~$ sudo aticonfig --initial -f Uninitialised file found, configuring. PowerXpress info: Diagnostic output from /usr/lib/fglrx/switchlibglx: update-alternatives: 警告: 链接组 x86_64-linux-gnu_gl_conf 已损坏
[05:28] <^k^> ─> ，故强制重新安装候选项 /usr/lib/fglrx/ld.so.conf update-alternatives: 警告: 将不会把 /usr/lib/x86 …
[05:32] <yunfan> QiongMangHuo: 送我好了
[05:33] <jiero> QiongMangHuo: 你竟然买了 cubieboard
[05:35] <onlylove_> 一叶的VPS居然不支持vps
[05:35] <onlylove_> 哦，不支持IRC……
[05:36] <jiero> onlylove_: 额，你用他的irc做服务器？
[05:36] <onlylove_> jiero: 不
[05:36] <jiero> onlylove_: 我脑袋昏头了 -
[05:36] <onlylove_> jiero: 我只是考虑买个挂IRC而已
[05:36] * jiero 今天进一步失落
[05:37] <onlylove_> jiero: 不过貌似人说了，禁止
[05:37] <jiero> 厌世了 0 没目标了
[05:39] <onlylove_> jiero: 你不是一直都厌世么
[05:40] <jiero> onlylove_: 是啊，又没了目标。。。
[05:40] <jiero> onlylove_: 反正也活不了几年了，设个目标也没用。
[05:40] <onlylove_> jiero: 为什么要用又，你有过目标？
[05:40] <jiero> onlylove_: 恩。
[05:40] <onlylove_> jiero: 活不了几年？没听说祸害活千年？
[05:41] <jiero> onlylove_: 老掉牙的话还放嘴边说啥。
[05:41] <jiero> onlylove_: 因为多数人笃信那些？
[05:41] <onlylove_> jiero: 不是大多数人笃信，是事实如此
[05:42] <jiero> onlylove_: 大多数人都是祸害当然活千年 - 不然你怎么还在。
[05:42] <yunfan> onlylove_: 什么叫不支持irc?
[05:43] <onlylove_> yunfan: 是不允许……
[05:43] <yunfan> onlylove_: 不允许irc server 还是 client?
[05:43] <onlylove_> yunfan: 没说
[05:43] <onlylove_> yunfan: http://item.taobao.com/item.htm?spm=a1z10.5-c.w4002-1266323605.17.ZqDwLx&id=40831209927
[05:43] <^k^> onlylove_: ⇪ 美国 OpenVZ VPS 2个独立IP 内存1G 硬盘100G 流量3T/月-淘宝网 pp: 25.00
[05:43] <yunfan> 估计是不允许irc server 许多老外得host都这样
[05:44] <yunfan> onlylove_: 一年25?
[05:44] <onlylove_> yunfan: 月
[05:44] <yunfan> 差不多嘛 又两个ip呢
[05:44] <jiero> 为什么我相信人类还有不到20年就灭了
[05:44] <yunfan> onlylove_: 拿你买do的不就行了
[05:44] <EO22> O0XX: http://detail.tmall.com/item.htm?id=13339773581&spm=a1z09.2.9.13.mXXmD1&_u=r2ati9l434f
[05:44] <^k^> EO22: ⇪ 站立式电脑桌站立上网办公桌站着用的电脑桌可升降站立桌子工作台 ①阔以减肥阔以瘦腿阔以变美！ ②专用站立上网颈椎病克星IT白领必备! ③身高在185以上的和155以下的买家联系客服高度可以定做! ④全网4.8的超高评分厂家直销。凡是以赚钱为目的的做活动都是耍流氓！ 香港
[05:44] <^k^> ─> 澳门台湾海外地区上面显示的邮费不是最终数据，请联系卖家核实正确后发货，否则不 …
[05:45] <jusss`> QiongMangHuo: [ -n $foo ] && command 这种是如果 foo为0 就执行 command ?
[05:45] <yunfan> EO22: 站立式解决不了颈椎问题 你站着也是低头看屏幕 除非用投影投到天上
[05:45] <EO22> yunfan: 腰椎.
[05:45] <EO22> yunfan: 痔疮
[05:46] <EO22> yunfan: 服?
[05:46] <yunfan> EO22: 站立的会又静脉曲张
[05:46] <EO22> yunfan: 坐久了痔疮
[05:46] <yunfan> 不要怀疑我 我现在就有个站立式的设备
[05:46] <jiero> yunfan经常上下左右活动，跳舞写代码
[05:46] <yunfan> EO22: 站多了静脉曲张
[05:46] <EO22> yunfan: 坐久了痔疮
[05:46] <jiero> yunfan: 干嘛站着，要走，要有蓝牙键盘
[05:47] <jiero> yunfan: 要有投影仪
[05:47] <yunfan> 而且站着也有痔疮 除非你四肢着地那样才没后患
[05:47] <jiero> yunfan: 除非浑身泡在培养液里游动？
[05:47] <yunfan> jiero: 除非割了
[05:48] <jiero> yunfan: 噢。对啊，去年7月底我割了，据说不疼，但是还是疼。
[05:49] <onlylove> yunfan: 你可以躺着？
[05:49] <jiero> onlylove_: 躺着也痔疮。
[05:49] <onlylove> jiero: 滚
[05:49] <onlylove> jiero: 你趴着吧
[05:50] <yunfan> jiero: 割了雀雀？
[05:50] <O0XX> EO22: 靠, 这个破店不能用信用卡...
[05:50] <yunfan> onlylove: 我上午就趴在床上的
[05:50] <yunfan> 中午才出来的
[05:50] <jiero> onlylove_: 改疼还要疼 痔疮的一种是因为挤压压迫就不会消除 - 难道你把屁股一直扒开
[05:50] <jiero> yun
[05:50] <jiero> yunfan: 割了血块
[05:51] <jiero> onlylove: 跪着滚动都不能消除 -切了去
[05:52] <yunfan> jiero: 直立行走就又着问题 所以除非你四肢着地
[05:52] <yunfan> 不过现在前后只长度不同 就算你不怕人笑 也不方便
[05:52] <yunfan> 或者你可以练习用手走路
[05:53] <jiero> yunfan: 空间占用问题
[05:53] <jiero> yunfan: 现在纵向空间不算拥挤
[05:53] <jiero> yunfan: 要是大家都2米3高就是问题了
[05:54] <yunfan> jiero: 哦
[05:54] <jiero> 这里空气质量优 - pm2.5指数 47，但是4公里外的东西就模糊了
[05:55] <jiero> onlylove_: 北京也是空气质量优个什么情况？
[05:56] <jusss`> [竟然是个指令在bash中！！！
[05:58] <QiongMangHuo> jusss`: http://adam8157.info/blog/2010/05/blank-in-shell-script/
[05:58] <^k^> QiongMangHuo: ⇪ shell脚本中的空格 - Adam's
[05:59] <QiongMangHuo> 五年前了...
[05:59] <EO22> jusss`: [ 貌似sh也有吧...
[06:00] <yunfan> 本来就有 难道不记得 []这些了 ？
[06:00] <yunfan> jusss`: 我还以为你对这些很熟练呢 想不到也是个冒牌货
[06:01] <jusss`> yunfan: 我从来没说我会bash呀
[06:02] <jusss`> QiongMangHuo: "但是我总感觉shell脚本很优雅. 一门优雅的语言" I can't agree with you
[06:02] <yunfan> QiongMangHuo: linux上execute一个程序的那些调用规范 跟c本身的函数调用是否是一致的 ？
[06:02] <jusss`> [既然是个指令，那当然要加空格了
[06:03] <QiongMangHuo> yunfan: 没看懂
[06:03] <jusss`> QiongMangHuo: 各种奇葩的符号，怎么能感觉到优雅呢？bash这种东西太工匠了
[06:03] <gfxmode> BuMangHuo: 最近买新茶叶挺好的，清明节前的茶叶好
[06:04] <QiongMangHuo> jusss`: 我那是为了黑C++ 五年前 不要在意
[06:04] <jusss`> QiongMangHuo: 问题来了，那怎么查询[这个指令的用法呢？ man [ 不行
[06:04] <QiongMangHuo> jusss`: [只是test的一种写法
[06:04] <jusss`> QiongMangHuo: =会是指令吗？ 还有其它的符号是指令的吗？
[06:05] <QiongMangHuo> jusss`: 你太喜欢问了, 多Google
[06:05] <jusss`> QiongMangHuo: 你又不是不知道google已死
[06:05] <QiongMangHuo> jusss`: 那你别搞技术了
[06:06] <BuMangHuo> gfxmode: 龙井？
[06:06] <BuMangHuo> gfxmode: 雨前的也还好吧
[06:06] <yunfan> QiongMangHuo: 我这几天在看programming from ground up,他有个例子 是从命令行获得文件参数 把第一个文件里的小写字幕转换成大写 统统写入第二个文件 我看他获取命令行参数时候 好像跟 内部的一些函数调用有些不同
[06:06] <yunfan> 不知道是他省略了 还是就是不一样
[06:07] <yunfan> 我想获取命令行参数 那不就是 execute管的么 ？qi
[06:07] <yunfan> QiongMangHuo:
[06:07] <gfxmode> BuMangHuo: 六安瓜片
[06:07] <yunfan> 至于 他内部函数调用 那个就是 i386 abi了
[06:07] <QiongMangHuo> yunfan: 你没写过C?
[06:07] <QiongMangHuo> yunfan: argc argv嘛
[06:07] <QiongMangHuo> yunfan: shell传给它的
[06:07] <yunfan> QiongMangHuo: 那本书是讲汇编的 大佬
[06:07] <QiongMangHuo> yunfan: 哦...
[06:07] <QiongMangHuo> yunfan: 那母鸡
[06:07] <gfxmode> BuMangHuo: 黄山毛峰。我对江浙茶叶不感冒，最近喜欢安徽茶叶
[06:08] <yunfan> QiongMangHuo: 坑我
[06:08] <yunfan> gfxmode: 我这就是毛峰产地
[06:08] <yunfan> gfxmode: 推荐你喝 五溪山云雾茶
[06:09] <onlylove_> yunfan: 你不是对茶没研究么
[06:09] <gfxmode> yunfan: 我的伙计，你是哪里人？
[06:11] * O0XX 求代付啊!
[06:11] * BuMangHuo 同求代付
[06:11] <carmelo1989> 搞张visa。。。
[06:11] <yunfan> onlylove_: 不喝嘴巴里没味道
[06:12] <yunfan> gfxmode: 我都说了我这里是产地了 难道毛峰还产在帝都不成？
[06:12] <carmelo1989> 有人玩wow、自由篮球的么？
[06:13] <QiongMangHuo> O0XX: ?
[06:13] <onlylove_> yunfan: 我在想毛峰和毛尖的区别……
[06:13] <O0XX> QiongMangHuo: 那堆树莓派...
[06:13] <QiongMangHuo> O0XX: 你自己买啊
[06:13] <onlylove_> yunfan: 我记得玩游戏认识一河南的，他们那貌似是毛尖
[06:13] <O0XX> QiongMangHuo: 你不行
[06:13] <EO22> onlylove_: 信阳毛尖嘛
[06:14] <gfxmode> yunfan: 安徽其它市 也有产毛峰的
[06:14] <EO22> 广东信阳
[06:14] <QiongMangHuo> O0XX: 我为啥不行?
[06:14] <yunfan> gfxmode: 你说的是黄山毛峰 我说我这里就是产地
[06:14] <O0XX> QiongMangHuo: 你不是我老板批
[06:14] <QiongMangHuo> O0XX: 你为啥不行?
[06:15] <O0XX> QiongMangHuo: 我可以啊..
[06:15] <yunfan> onlylove_: 跟风呗 现在又不是古代
[06:15] <gfxmode> yunfan: 了解
[06:15] <EO22> O0XX: 我找到杂技书的电子版了
[06:15] <O0XX> QiongMangHuo: 咱公司报销太慢...
[06:15] <QiongMangHuo> O0XX: 靠 你又不差这几百块
[06:17] <EO22> O0XX: http://pan.baidu.com/s/1ntn6SlF 看封皮
[06:17] <^k^> EO22: ⇪ Pragmatic.Seven.Concurrency.Models.in.Seven.Weeks.2014.7.pdf_免费高速下载|百度云 网盘-分享无限制
[06:17] <O0XX> EO22: 还是个老外选的封皮啊
[06:17] <EO22> O0XX: 是啊.
[06:17] <QiongMangHuo> EO22: 我靠 是你
[06:18] <EO22> QiongMangHuo: 啊?
[06:18] <yunfan> 要是茶叶磨成粉喝就好了
[06:18] <EO22> QiongMangHuo: 大家都知道啊.
[06:18] <EO22> QiongMangHuo: 你才看出来啊?
[06:18] <BuMangHuo> 。。。
[06:18] <QiongMangHuo> EO22: ...
[06:18] * jusss` 茶叶讨论频道。。。
[06:18] <yunfan> QiongMangHuo: 我早就看出来了 你居然现在才发现
[06:18] <QiongMangHuo> 啊哦，你来晚了，分享的文件已经被取消了，下次要早点哟。
[06:18] <yunfan> 我只要跟认搭三句话 就要whois
[06:19] <BuMangHuo> yunfan: 哎对了，没有碎纸机的情况怎么最便捷的毁了一些纸质资料
[06:20] <BuMangHuo> yunfan: 烧烟太大
[06:20] <QiongMangHuo> BuMangHuo: 烧
[06:20] <BuMangHuo> QiongMangHuo: 那太多烟啊
[06:20] <yunfan> BuMangHuo: 用溶剂溶掉
[06:20] <QiongMangHuo> BuMangHuo: 快递给我
[06:20] <BuMangHuo> QiongMangHuo: 给你也没用啊，都是些用处不大的资料
[06:20] <yunfan> BuMangHuo: 额 我看错了 你是说纸张啊 我以为是塑料 你有多少 ？
[06:21] <BuMangHuo> 比如银行的那种单子啊之类的
[06:21] <BuMangHuo> yunfan: 我一般攒 50 张左右就销毁
[06:21] <yunfan> BuMangHuo: 放锅里用水煮 煮烂就没了
[06:21] <BuMangHuo> ...
[06:22] <yunfan> 我一般直接撕 但是考虑到你从事的工作 说不定你需要更高安全级别的方法嘛
[06:22] <BuMangHuo> yunfan: 我有时候也是撕的
[06:22] <yunfan> BuMangHuo: 其实你把关键信息地方的纸撕出来集中销毁就行了
[06:23] <jiero> yunfan: 啊啊。其实开一节办公室用品大杂烩视频课也有意思 - 各种纸张的用处和销毁方式之类的的。。小注意之类的。
[06:23] <yunfan> 一张纸 并非所有地方信息量都一样的
[06:23] <QiongMangHuo> yunfan: 抹茶, 就是磨成粉喝的啊
[06:23] <jiero> QiongMangHuo: 嗯嗯。
[06:23] <yunfan> jiero: 是啊 别人看mm发碟也看腻味了
[06:23] <jiero> QiongMangHuo: 新鲜的。
[06:23] <yunfan> QiongMangHuo: 那个没什么真茶叶味道
[06:23] <QiongMangHuo> yunfan: 不, 我说的是抹茶, 不是你吃的那些抹茶口味
[06:23] <jiero> yunfan: 抹茶蛋糕，
[06:24] <QiongMangHuo> yunfan: 日本人从来都是磨成粉喝
[06:24] <jiero> QiongMangHuo: 中国逐渐开始又在意原料了
[06:24] <yunfan> QiongMangHuo: 那我倒没吃过 我只吃过抹茶口味的东西
[06:24] <yunfan> QiongMangHuo: 日本人不可能吧 我记得德国人还是英国人是这样的
[06:24] <QiongMangHuo> yunfan: 英国人是茶包, 日本人喝抹茶
[06:24] <yunfan> 不过想想也是 还有人吃熟油茶 砖茶什么的
[06:25] <QiongMangHuo> yunfan: https://zh.wikipedia.org/zh/抹茶
[06:25] <^k^> ⇪ ti: 维基百科，自由的百科全书
[06:25] <QiongMangHuo> yunfan: 抹茶起源于中国的隋朝，在唐朝、宋朝达到顶峰，特别在宋朝，已经有了完整的寺院抹茶茶藝（點茶）。至今已有一千多年的历史。明朝以来，中国开始流行用茶叶泡汤弃渣的喝法，點茶便告失传，传统茶磨也随之绝迹。九世纪末（日本的平安中期）抹茶随日本遣唐使进入日本，點茶被日本人民所
[06:25] <jiero> QiongMangHuo: 在意原料的的话就要本地生产。搞社区生产试验田 - 专门租楼顶的房子实验住宅田地+一点特殊住宿服务 cc yunfan
[06:25] <yunfan> 中国人这个泡茶纯粹是穷出来的 就跟卤煮的起源差不多
[06:25] <BuMangHuo> yunfan: 恩，以前是那样做的
[06:25] <QiongMangHuo> 接受并推崇，发展成为今天的日本茶道。
[06:25] <yunfan> jiero: 也可以用视频监控生产场地
[06:25] <yunfan> BuMangHuo: 那不就行了
[06:25] <BuMangHuo> yunfan: 主要是因为那种一式几份的那种纸张，撕起来特别麻烦，而且手上就涂上那些蓝色啊红色啊什么的
[06:26] <jiero> QiongMangHuo: 潍坊我楼上 110平方的房子月租金1000
[06:26] <yunfan> QiongMangHuo: 我记得唐朝那个谁也是泡茶吧 什么羽来着
[06:26] <QiongMangHuo> 陆?
[06:26] <jiero> yunfan: 陆羽 茶经么
[06:27] <yunfan> jiero: 嗯 cc QiongMangHuo
[06:27] <yunfan> QiongMangHuo: 因为他讲了茶叶形状 如果不是抹茶那种吃法 就不会在意这个了
[06:28] <jiero> yunfan: 今天南北车合并 - 都涨停了，股市你看了么。。。
[06:28] <jiero> yunfan: 发现炒股真无聊 - - - 就是为什么人类发明了种种东西聚集资金，资金转化成实物效率那么低下。
[06:31] <yunfan> jiero: 我不炒股 我如果有钱就搞期货
[06:31] <yunfan> 股市政府可以随便干涉 期货相对困难多了
[06:31] <yunfan> 马列理论再叼 也折腾不出铁矿石跟大豆
[06:37] <jusss`> test
[06:37] <^k^> jusss`:点点点. 14:37
[06:38] <jiero> yunfan: 对啊，要是马列理论叼了，就没人爱去搞矿石了。
[06:44] <gfrog> tryit: 找我？
[06:44] <QiongMangHuo> gfrog: 牛牛
[06:44] <HowIsItGoing> QiongMangHuo: 土壕
[06:44] <QiongMangHuo> HowIsItGoing: PX
[06:45] <HowIsItGoing> QiongMangHuo: ……
[06:45] <QiongMangHuo> HowIsItGoing: PX爆炸, 文科生理科生都哭了
[06:45] <jusss`> 3 # Written by Lee bigelow <[email protected]>
[06:45] <tryit> HowIsItGoing, ...
[06:46] <QiongMangHuo> jusss`: 原来是拼音...
[06:47] <jusss`> QiongMangHuo: from ABS Guide
[06:48] <EO22> HowIsItGoing: 牛牛
[06:48] <jusss`> low bee
[06:50] <QiongMangHuo> jusss: yahoo的...
[06:52] <HowIsItGoing> tryit: gns模拟的路由器用文本文件保存配置，你想用啥配置，加载之前写到那个文件里再启动就行了
[06:53] <QiongMangHuo> O0XX: 靠, 大盘疯了
[06:53] <O0XX> QiongMangHuo: 拜股神!
[06:53] <QiongMangHuo> O0XX: 我说大盘
[06:53] <O0XX> QiongMangHuo: 我已经完全不敢进了
[06:53] <tryit> HowIsItGoing, thx
[06:53] <QiongMangHuo> O0XX: 今天没注意大盘, 刚一看吓一跳
[06:54] <O0XX> QiongMangHuo: 胆子小
[06:54] <O0XX> QiongMangHuo: 主要是穷
[06:54] <tryit> HowIsItGoing, 你考的是R&S ？
[06:54] <HowIsItGoing> tryit: .
[06:54] <HowIsItGoing> tryit: 正在准备ISP的笔试。
[06:54] <jiero> 我疯了
[06:54] * jiero 不知道什么是什么
[06:55] <tryit> HowIsItGoing, 准备考2个？
[06:56] <yunfan> QiongMangHuo: 新三版刺激的
[06:56] <QiongMangHuo> yunfan: 不懂别乱说, 绝大多数人都没注意新三板
[06:56] <yunfan> QiongMangHuo: 我是说刺激的
[06:57] <yunfan> QiongMangHuo: 再说了 炒股的人 没影的消息都能嗅到 何况这个
[06:57] <QiongMangHuo> yunfan: 三板市场一向妖, 没什么参考意义感觉
[06:57] <HowIsItGoing> tryit: 过期了要重认证
[06:57] <yunfan> QiongMangHuo: 你觉得贵国的股民是理性的？
[06:57] <jusss> QiongMangHuo: yahoo邮箱其实很好用,以前诺基亚吧ovi mail托给了yahoo,后来被微软关了
[06:57] <tryit> HowIsItGoing, ...
[06:57] <tryit> HowIsItGoing, 你之前就是考的ISP？
[06:57] <HowIsItGoing> tryit: RS
[06:58] <HowIsItGoing> tryit: 重认证的时候只要考个笔试就行，随便哪门
[06:58] <tryit> HowIsItGoing, 了解
[06:58] <HowIsItGoing> tryit: 实际上是鼓励考生多考几门
[06:58] <tryit> HowIsItGoing, 原来如此
[06:58] <tryit> HowIsItGoing, 我准备今年考个R&S，现在在NA看了一半……
[06:59] <tryit> HowIsItGoing, 以后多多向大神请教，拜一个～
[07:00] <HowIsItGoing> tryit: 今年？ 压力比较大啊，要年底考的话你至少夏天就得把笔试过了然后约lab考试，rs的lab很难约
[07:01] <tryit> HowIsItGoing, 晕
[07:01] <tryit> HowIsItGoing, 这么难约？
[07:01] <yunfan> tryit: 你很上进 啊
[07:01] <tryit> yunfan, 闲着蛋疼没事干， :D
[07:02] <yunfan> tryit: 哪里 这是你的大计划中的一小段
[07:02] <tryit> HowIsItGoing, 其实我工作对口的是security
[07:03] <tryit> HowIsItGoing, 但是r&s毕竟是基础嘛
[07:03] <tryit> HowIsItGoing, 过了R&S，下次再考个security
[07:03] <tryit> yunfan, 算了谈计划吧，我之前计划的hadoop都泡汤了，暂时……
[07:04] <BuMangHuo> 我们厂的股票最近狂涨
[07:04] <BuMangHuo> 不知道啥情况
[07:04] <O0XX_> BuMangHuo: 拜股东
[07:05] <BuMangHuo> O0XX_: 我不是哎
[07:05] <onlylove__> BuMangHuo: 拜股东
[07:05] <yunfan> tryit: 我说你移民的大计划
[07:05] <QiongMangHuo> BuMangHuo: +0.85%
[07:05] <QiongMangHuo> 52.29
[07:05] <yunfan> BuMangHuo: 郭嘉要拉到股市而已
[07:05] <BuMangHuo> QiongMangHuo: 过年停盘之前是 26 的
[07:05] <BuMangHuo> 现在都 52 了
[07:05] <QiongMangHuo> BuMangHuo: 看到一个月翻翻了
[07:05] <BuMangHuo> 对啊
[07:05] <tryit> yunfan, 移毛线呢，下辈子再说吧
[07:05] <QiongMangHuo> BuMangHuo: 拜股东
[07:06] <BuMangHuo> 上次那个 8 折优惠没用上。。。。
[07:06] <tryit> yunfan, 太远的计划是扯淡
[07:06] <BuMangHuo> 不过他是说3年后才能交易，谁知道3年后啥样子
[07:06] <QiongMangHuo> BuMangHuo: 壕壕壕
[07:07] <BuMangHuo> QiongMangHuo: 我听有人说方向好像是 90 还是多少来着
[07:07] <tryit> yunfan, 主要是年纪不小了，不能跟年轻人比
[07:07] <tryit> yunfan, 再不折腾就老了……
[07:07] <QiongMangHuo> BuMangHuo: 那你买一万股80块钱卖给他
[07:08] <QiongMangHuo> BuMangHuo: 这种预测扯淡得很
[07:08] <BuMangHuo> QiongMangHuo: 挺多人买了
[07:08] <BuMangHuo> nnd， 涨了咋不发奖金啊
[07:09] <onlylove> BuMangHuo: 有人给你老板发钱而已，你们沾光了
[07:09] <BuMangHuo> HowIsItGoing: 骑去类似 130 这样的短途有啥建议？ 比如需要带的东西之类
[07:09] <QiongMangHuo> BuMangHuo: 130短途............
[07:09] <BuMangHuo> onlylove: 一毛钱的光都没沾到
[07:10] <BuMangHuo> QiongMangHuo: 对啊，我中途返回来了，也加起来快 40km，没感觉有一点压力啊
[07:10] <BuMangHuo> 算起来单程的距离够了吧
[07:10] <cherrot> QiongMangHuo, 好猛啊
[07:10] <QiongMangHuo> BuMangHuo: 牛牛
[07:10] <QiongMangHuo> cherrot: 啥?
[07:10] <cherrot> QiongMangHuo, 哦 看错了
[07:10] <cherrot> BuMangHuo, 好猛
[07:10] <BuMangHuo> QiongMangHuo: 我一个人骑的，没有专业的队友，所以我速度慢，cc cherrot
[07:10] <QiongMangHuo> BuMangHuo, 好猛
[07:10] <cherrot> BuMangHuo, 130 体力透支已经比较严重了
[07:11] <tryit> yunfan, 而且以后跟人说起来，说俺是搞网络的，不会路由和交换都不好意思跟人打招呼
[07:11] <BuMangHuo> cherrot: 我是半程啊
[07:11] <O0XX_> BuMangHuo, 好猛
[07:11] <cherrot> BuMangHuo, 于是你想往返260？
[07:11] <BuMangHuo> O0XX_: 半程啊，不过那边好像有上坡
[07:11] <cherrot> BuMangHuo, 记得爱抚你的前列腺
[07:11] <BuMangHuo> cherrot: 我是说我骑一半返回了，差不多40
[07:12] <BuMangHuo> 但是只看这40的话完全没压力，全程连口水都没喝
[07:12] <cherrot> BuMangHuo, 40km还好
[07:12] <yunfan> tryit: 你跟年轻人比只是火力小点而已
[07:12] <cherrot> BuMangHuo, 但是突然开始还是有点挑战的 就是说第二天优惠肌肉酸痛
[07:12] <BuMangHuo> cherrot: 恩，所以我觉得如果 130 来回 80 的话，压力也不会太大，不过那边有大长坡的话就麻烦
[07:12] <yunfan> BuMangHuo: 我买了那个动感单车的 以后可以在家练习了
[07:13] <BuMangHuo> yunfan: 那是个啥
[07:13] <cherrot> yunfan, 噪音小 不错 就是对膝盖可能不太好
[07:13] <yunfan> BuMangHuo: 上次我骑车从我父母家倒屯溪 80公里
[07:13] <yunfan> cherrot: 总比跑步好点了
[07:13] <cherrot> yunfan, 倒也是哦
[07:13] <yunfan> cherrot: 我这体重 跑步更伤
[07:13] <tryit> yunfan, 考个CCIE，扩展一下知识面，然后搞投kernel/net子系统，深度上有一个进展，以后换工作就不会那么难了
[07:14] <BuMangHuo> yunfan: 对吧，80 如果没坡没有啥压力「
[07:14] <tryit> yunfan, 搞透kernel/net
[07:14] <cherrot> yunfan, 倒也是哦 如果说骑车伤膝盖 那跑步岂不更伤 cc QiongMangHuo
[07:14] <QiongMangHuo> O0XX_: EO22` 台湾同事带了巨香的点心 你们正好开会
[07:14] <yunfan> tryit: en 我也是觉得要搞透 所以我再看汇编
[07:14] <cherrot> 咦 imadper 呢？
[07:15] <O0XX_> QiongMangHuo: 反正我不能吃
[07:15] <BuMangHuo> 点心？
[07:15] <yunfan> BuMangHuo: 有坡 我这又不是帝都
[07:15] <BuMangHuo> 求邮寄
[07:15] <QiongMangHuo> O0XX_: 香芋
[07:15] <O0XX_> QiongMangHuo: 你看看配料
[07:15] <O0XX_> QiongMangHuo: 上次有人带过
[07:15] * BuMangHuo 最喜欢吃点心
[07:15] <BuMangHuo> O0XX_: 额，点心有清真的不
[07:15] <O0XX_> BuMangHuo: 有啊
[07:16] <O0XX_> BuMangHuo: 比不清真的好吃
[07:16] <QiongMangHuo> O0XX_: 没有外包装, nancy送过来6个, 我们四个人, 还剩俩
[07:16] <tryit> yunfan, 不错
[07:16] <O0XX_> QiongMangHuo: 上次有人送过
[07:16] * QiongMangHuo 抵制清真标签
[07:16] <O0XX_> QiongMangHuo: 看过, 不能吃
[07:16] <O0XX_> QiongMangHuo: ...
[07:16] <tryit> yunfan, 我现在没时间搞那了，只能一步一步走
[07:16] <QiongMangHuo> 食盐都清真, 尼码
[07:16] <yunfan> tryit: 你不搞netfilter?
[07:16] <yunfan> QiongMangHuo: 他说的是清蒸 呵呵
[07:17] <O0XX_> QiongMangHuo: 食盐为啥不能清真?
[07:17] <QiongMangHuo> O0XX_: 这宗教税收的很扯淡, 中国是世界上第四个有清真食盐的国家
[07:17] <jusss> 食盐还能犹太吧
[07:17] <QiongMangHuo> O0XX_: 第四个
[07:18] <tryit> yunfan, 搞
[07:18] <jusss> 据说犹太佬对吃很讲究，非净食不吃
[07:18] <QiongMangHuo> kosher
[07:18] <yunfan> tryit: 那个底层也是bytecode
[07:18] <BuMangHuo> 食盐的话，就是那么一说吧
[07:18] <yunfan> jusss: 这些沙漠里的穷鬼这个不吃拿个不吃得 皆因当初没得吃 所以说我不吃
[07:18] <tryit> yunfan, kernel中汇编相关的主要是架构和启动那些
[07:19] <BuMangHuo> 你当清真吃，就是清真了
[07:19] <BuMangHuo> 大不了就是食盐厂家做的其它东西也是清真的
[07:19] <yunfan> tryit: ld-linux不知道为何 有100多k那么大
[07:20] <yunfan> BuMangHuo: 我比较怀疑贵国许多产品上贴的清真标志
[07:20] <O0XX_> BuMangHuo: 牛奶还有清真的
[07:20] <tryit> yunfan, 慢慢折腾
[07:20] <yunfan> 像雪糕牛奶上都有 难道奶牛边上还有阿訇念经 ？
[07:20] <BuMangHuo> O0XX_: 我还是喜欢清真的花卷儿
[07:22] <O0XX_> yunfan: 伊利的前身你知道是什么?
[07:22] <yunfan> O0XX_: 伊斯兰国
[07:22] <yunfan> ？
[07:23] <O0XX_> 1956年——伊利雏形形成 呼和浩特回民区成立养牛合作小组，到1958年，改名为“呼市回民区合作奶牛场”，拥有1160头奶牛，日产牛奶700公斤，职工人数117名。它就是伊利的前身。
[07:23] <O0XX_> yunfan: 人家加个清真标识是不是特别合适?
[07:23] <jusss> yunfan: 摩西带领希伯来人进许诺之地，自己最后却进不了，而且犹太佬的神还是个children killer十灾最后一灾 first born die，可见宗教都不是什么好玩意
[07:24] <O0XX_> 1993年——呼市回民奶食品加工厂改制 1993年2月，由21家发起人发起，吸收其他法人和内部职工入股，以定向募集方式设立伊利集团，并于1993年6月14日更名为“内蒙古伊利实业股份有限公司”。
[07:24] <jusss> 看了exodus kings and gods, 对犹太佬的神一点好感没
[07:24] <yunfan> O0XX_: 这只是他的人员构成 难道共产党员个个都是马列专家？ 我是说他这个食品清真的操作性问题
[07:25] <yunfan> jusss: 犹太人至少只折腾自己 不去折腾别的民族
[07:25] <^k^> 新 Shell脚本 • if else 语句无法执行，即无法执行then里面的数据库插入 也无法执行else 里面的数据库插入 ，求大神指导 http://forum.ubuntu.org.cn/viewtopic.php?t=469347 #! /bin/bash time=`mysql -u root apk -se "select times from Times where package='com.zhejiangdaily'"` ; //结果为time=7； if [ ! $time ] then echo "hello"; mysql -u r
[07:25] <^k^> ─> oot apk <<EOF 2>/dev/null insert into Cap values("$pkg","$starttime","$endtime",$mytimes,"??"); insert into Times …
[07:26] <HowIsItGoing> BuMangHuo: 带好水，带好干粮，车有快拆就带备胎，没快拆带补胎片、锉、胶水
[07:26] <HowIsItGoing> tryit: 竟然想考俩，厉害
[07:27] <jusss> yunfan: 犹太人延伸出来的Jesus可不是什么好玩意，十字军东征 blablabla的
[07:27] <HowIsItGoing> BuMangHuo: 住北边去130来回70km左右，三小时往返，其实不带吃的东西也没啥事，不过天冷或者体力不好的话最好还是带着
[07:27] <tryit> HowIsItGoing, 主要是没有见识过lab的难度
[07:27] <HowIsItGoing> tryit: 有题库你可以看看
[07:27] <tryit> HowIsItGoing, 所以……"大言不惭"
[07:27] <HowIsItGoing> tryit: RS主要是trouble shooting比较难
[07:28] <tryit> HowIsItGoing, 我现在还没到刷题库的程度，先看书，在gns上熟悉命令
[07:29] <tryit> HowIsItGoing, 对了，其实我主要是想问问你从0基础到完整地学习完CCIE R&S，有没有一套比较系统完整的教程
[07:30] <HowIsItGoing> tryit: cisco的教材啊，舍我其谁
[07:30] <tryit> HowIsItGoing, 目前找到有2套，一个是学习指南，CCNA和NP
[07:30] <tryit> HowIsItGoing, 另外一套是官方认证指南
[07:30] <HowIsItGoing> tryit: 不过想看IE的话，NP的没必要看了，重复太多而且深度不够
[07:30] <HowIsItGoing> tryit: NA的看看还行，知道些基础
[07:31] <tryit> HowIsItGoing, IE有 routing tcp/ip 2卷貌似不错
[07:31] <HowIsItGoing> tryit: 但是找培训班听课，他们讲的都是NP课程，但是深度加大，NP之后直接进IE冲刺
[07:31] <HowIsItGoing> tryit: 这两卷几乎是必备书
[07:32] <HowIsItGoing> tryit: 我上卷看完一半，下卷没咋看，所以我BGP基本不懂。
[07:32] <tryit> HowIsItGoing, 我打算看完CCNA学习指南，和CCNP routing CCNP switch 和 TS这三本学习指南
[07:32] <HowIsItGoing> tryit: 我得找时间看完ISIS那部分
[07:32] <nyfair> 斯国一
[07:32] <HowIsItGoing> tryit: 差不多就这样了
[07:32] <tryit> HowIsItGoing, NA一本、NP三本、加上 routing tcp/ip 2卷
[07:33] <nyfair> 这频道什么时候这么霸气了，一会儿ISIS一会儿TS
[07:33] <yunfan> jusss: 那个已经不关犹太人的事了 何况犹太人还灭了jesus呢
[07:33] <nyfair> yunfan: 快给我5个金币，我把耶稣砍了
[07:33] <tryit> HowIsItGoing, 好像IE没有专门的学习指南类的东西
[07:33] <HowIsItGoing> tryit: 可能你还得找几本MPLS书看
[07:33] <yunfan> nyfair: 你自己就有金币
[07:33] <if_e1se> me
[07:33] <nyfair> ie sparta大法好
[07:34] <HowIsItGoing> tryit: 有啊，不过很短，就是cisco网站上那个reading list
[07:34] <HowIsItGoing> tryit: 大概20多本书
[07:34] <nyfair> 老实说我觉得115浏览器挺不错的
[07:34] <yunfan> 其实我觉得清真认证也好 吃的东西少 将来上太空方便 不象贵国人 上太空 嘴巴就遭殃了
[07:35] <tryit> HowIsItGoing, 我看amazon上有IE的官方认证指南
[07:35] <tryit> HowIsItGoing, CCIE Routing and Switching v5.0 Official Cert Guide Library (5th Edition)
[07:35] <tryit> Dec 20, 2014
[07:35] <tryit> HowIsItGoing, CCIE Routing and Switching v5.0 Official Cert Guide, Volume 2 (5th Edition)
[07:35] <tryit> Dec 18, 2014
[07:35] <tryit> HowIsItGoing, CCIE Routing and Switching v5.0 Official Cert Guide, Volume 1 (5th Edition)
[07:35] <tryit> Sep 6, 2014
[07:35] <tryit> HowIsItGoing, 没中文版的，英文版太贵……
[07:36] <tryit> HowIsItGoing, NP有一本2000多页的，应该是三合一， CCNP Routing and Switching Foundation Learning Library: (ROUTE 300-101, SWITCH 300-115, TSHOOT 300-135) (Self-Study Guide)
[07:37] <HowIsItGoing> tryit: 我觉得你看cisco press的就够了
[07:37] <HowIsItGoing> tryit: 如果有精力可以看其他的书
[07:37] <tryit> HowIsItGoing, 这些都是cisco press
[07:38] <tryit> HowIsItGoing, 在cisco网站上有一大堆的参考手册和配置手册，对照着看
[07:40] <tryit> HowIsItGoing, 应该差不多就是这些了，书也有了，文档也有了，模拟器也有了，慢慢看慢慢敲命令，到时候报个冲刺班
[07:40] <HowIsItGoing> tryit: gns没法模拟switch，注意哦
[07:40] <boring> 谁会翻墙 啊？
[07:40] <tryit> HowIsItGoing, 恩，是的
[07:40] <tryit> HowIsItGoing, 注意到了，谢～
[07:40] <boring> 求教...
[07:41] <tryit> HowIsItGoing, 你使用其它模拟器弥补吗？
[07:41] <HowIsItGoing> tryit: 租机架时间敲真机
[07:42] <HowIsItGoing> tryit: 有钱有地方可以搭home lab，其实没几台设备，一个小柜子就装下了
[07:42] <tryit> HowIsItGoing, 培训班？
[07:42] <HowIsItGoing> tryit: 嗯，taobao上也能找到租的
[07:42] <tryit> HowIsItGoing, 真机就不考虑了
[07:43] <tryit> HowIsItGoing, 你是NA NP一路考过来的？
[07:43] <HowIsItGoing> tryit: 想过考试你必须上真机敲的，有些gns跑不出来
[07:43] <HowIsItGoing> tryit: 显然不是，直接IE啊
[07:43] <tryit> HowIsItGoing, 高
[07:43] <tryit> HowIsItGoing, 培训班应该有lab的，到时候多敲吧
[07:43] <HowIsItGoing> tryit: 在学校的时候参加过NA培训，我们有个cisco学院
[07:43] <tryit> HowIsItGoing, 幸福
[07:46] <tryit> HowIsItGoing, IE安全和IE存储怎么样
[07:46] <tryit> HowIsItGoing, IE DC好像叫
[07:46] <HowIsItGoing> tryit: 不太了解，都不错吧
[07:46] <HowIsItGoing> tryit: DC是数据中心，考虚拟化存储
[07:47] <tryit> HowIsItGoing, 恩，是的
[07:47] <HowIsItGoing> tryit: UCS storage Nexus三部分
[07:47] <tryit> HowIsItGoing, 应该不错的，不知道以后就业方向如何
[07:48] <HowIsItGoing> tryit: 现在cisco显然干不过huawei啊
[07:48] <tryit> HowIsItGoing, 国外市场呢
[07:48] <HowIsItGoing> tryit: huawei也开始流行了好像
[07:49] <tryit> HowIsItGoing, 考完IE不知道对以后的发展能有多大帮助
[07:50] <HowIsItGoing> tryit: 不做sysadmin没必要
[07:50] <tryit> HowIsItGoing, 不指望这证书找工作，起码对知识结构体系能起到一个完善的作用吧
[07:50] <HowIsItGoing> tryit: 那没必要考
[07:50] <HowIsItGoing> tryit: 我是公司报销采去考的，培训加考试大概小三万
[07:51] <tryit> HowIsItGoing, 幸福
[07:51] <tryit> HowIsItGoing, 我也和公司商量商量给报销
[07:51] <tryit> HowIsItGoing, :D
[07:53] <tryit> HowIsItGoing, RHCA了解吗
[07:54] <kohaner> 人挺多，没人说话啊！
[07:54] <kohaner> 错了
[07:54] <HowIsItGoing> tryit: 考过CE，CA上了一半儿课就跑了
[07:54] <kohaner> 是没几个人说话
[07:54] <tryit> HowIsItGoing, 公司报销？
[07:54] <kohaner> 不好意思
[07:54] <HowIsItGoing> tryit: 公司的认证。 XD
[07:54] * HowIsItGoing 前公司
[07:54] <tryit> HowIsItGoing, faint 了解
[07:55] <tryit> HowIsItGoing, 考完IE和CA，是不是不做SA就亏了？
[07:55] <HowIsItGoing> tryit: 也可以做售前销售之类
[07:56] <HowIsItGoing> tryit: 或者技术支持啥的
[07:56] <HowIsItGoing> tryit: 总之写代码不需要考这个
[07:56] <tryit> HowIsItGoing, 其实我还是想想做开发。。。
[07:56] <tryit> HowIsItGoing, 云计算和大数据的底层支持
[07:57] <tryit> HowIsItGoing, 应该就是网络和存储这些吧
[07:57] <HowIsItGoing> tryit: 计算/网络/存储 三大块儿
[07:57] <tryit> HowIsItGoing, 那一部分可能是关系比较大的
[07:59] <tryit> HowIsItGoing, 唉，我也不知道了，不知道以后的职业规划如何做
[07:59] <O0XX|Qiong> 阿里真是惨.. http://m.cnbeta.com/wap/view_383441.htm
[07:59] <^k^> O0XX|Qiong: ⇪ 阿里巴巴在美被诉专利侵权 涉及网站开发技术_移动版(WAP)_cnBeta.COM
[08:05] <O0XX|Qiong> iMadper: 赶紧去点yes
[08:05] <iMadper> O0XX|Qiong: .
[08:06] <iMadper> happyaron: 赶紧去点yes
[08:09] <onlylove> tryit: 考完IE和CA你做毛SA啊你岂止亏了，你亏大了
[08:09] <tryit> onlylove, ?
[08:09] <tryit> onlylove, 做啥
[08:09] <onlylove> tryit: CA，可是架构师的称号，你顶着架构师做系统管理？做设计啊
[08:10] <onlylove> tryit: 从布线，网络，系统架构，
[08:10] <tryit> onlylove, 现在的证书都不值钱了，虚名而已
[08:10] <iMadper> onlylove: 现在的ca出来, 也就是个sa而已.
[08:10] <onlylove> tryit: 当然了，你要是没sa的底子，架构师还是算了
[08:11] <tryit> onlylove, 还是老老实实coding吧
[08:11] <HowIsItGoing> onlylove: 考过CA就能做架构师？ 你太高看CA了，太小看架构师了
[08:11] <HowIsItGoing> O0XX|Qiong: iMadper 点毛线？
[08:11] <iMadper> onlylove: 有了ca当然有sa的底子. 但是离架构师还是太远.
[08:11] <onlylove> tryit: 你coding和SA半毛钱关系没有
[08:11] <iMadper> HowIsItGoing: PES老大请吃东西.
[08:11] <HowIsItGoing> iMadper: 卧槽，壕组
[08:12] <iMadper> HowIsItGoing: ... ... 有邀请你嘛? 我看到aron了
[08:12] <onlylove> HowIsItGoing: 人不是还有个IE么。就差EMC认证专家了 cc iMadper
[08:12] <tryit> onlylove, IE是为了完善知识结构，CA的话现在还太早，考完IE有时间了再说
[08:12] <HowIsItGoing> iMadper: 显然不会邀请我啊，我跟贵组没交集
[08:12] <iMadper> HowIsItGoing: 在北京的, 都邀请了, 好像是.
[08:12] <HowIsItGoing> onlylove: 应该是VCP/EMC
[08:12] <onlylove> tryit: 完善毛，那你看网络体系不就行了吗，看毛那些
[08:12] <HowIsItGoing> iMadper: 我要去北京！！
[08:13] <onlylove> HowIsItGoing: 咋还扯上VCP了，我记得在vmware见过这东西
[08:13] <iMadper> onlylove: 没数据库相关的认证不合适吧? 还得来个oracle的认证.
[08:13] <HowIsItGoing> tryit: 说到完善知识结构，你太高看IE了
[08:13] <HowIsItGoing> onlylove: 做架构师不懂vmware，说出去不丢人？
[08:13] <tryit> HowIsItGoing, 至少对于我目前来说是的
[08:14] <tryit> HowIsItGoing, 架构师需要懂哪些方面的东西，除了IE和CA
[08:14] <iMadper> tryit: 需要多年经验... 没开玩笑.
[08:15] <HowIsItGoing> tryit: 怎么忽悠住客户
[08:15] <iMadper> tryit: 需要知道用不同技术的时候可能会遇到啥坑.
[08:15] <onlylove__> tryit: 需要经验 iMadper这次没蒙你
[08:16] <iMadper> tryit: 还是去做程序架构师好.
[08:16] <iMadper> tryit: 架构师太杂了.
[08:17] * tryit 也不错
[08:17] <iMadper> tryit: http://aosabook.org/en/index.html
[08:17] <^k^> ⇪ ti: The Architecture of Open Source Applications
[08:18] <tryit> iMadper, :)
[08:18] <O0XX|Qiong> iMadper: 拜搞手
[08:18] <onlylove> tryit: 其实吧，网站架构这种，都是不断演化的，至于程序那头，我真不知道
[08:18] <onlylove> iMadper: 拜搞手
[08:19] <iMadper> O0XX|Qiong: 乖, 快去弄那个makefile啊
[08:19] <iMadper> O0XX|Qiong: 吹水的事情, 交给我.
[08:21] <HowIsItGoing> QiongMangHuo: iMadper O0XX|Qiong 帽帽某前同事移民袋鼠国了
[08:21] <QiongMangHuo> HowIsItGoing: sui?
[08:22] <HowIsItGoing> QiongMangHuo: 原来劳哥那组的
[08:23] <BuMangHuo> QiongMangHuo: 请教你个问题啊，我编译我的一个内核模块的之前，需要有个 linux-headers, 或者编译过一次的一个内核，那我这个过程到底用到的是 linux-headers 里面的什么东西
[08:23] <BuMangHuo> 除了 .h
[08:23] <QiongMangHuo> BuMangHuo: .h
[08:24] <QiongMangHuo> BuMangHuo: 问题在哪?
[08:24] <freeflying> QiongMangHuo: 一共才200股，200%连个手机都买不了
[08:24] <QiongMangHuo> BuMangHuo: 有的.h是生成的, 而不在source tree里, 如果你在说这个的话
[08:24] <QiongMangHuo> freeflying: 一顿饭够了 lol
[08:24] <BuMangHuo> QiongMangHuo: 我想在我的这个内核里面也搞一个类似 linux-headers 的东西，不知道哪些该留哪些不该留
[08:25] <BuMangHuo> QiongMangHuo: 这样大家编译自己的模块的时候就不想要下载编译完整的内核了
[08:25] <QiongMangHuo> BuMangHuo: 去找生成脚本
[08:25] <BuMangHuo> 有这样的脚本？
[08:25] <QiongMangHuo> BuMangHuo: headers_install - Install sanitised kernel headers to INSTALL_HDR_PATH
[08:26] <BuMangHuo> 这个只是拷贝了一下 .h 吧
[08:26] <QiongMangHuo> BuMangHuo: 你安装到你想要的dir不就完了....
[08:26] <QiongMangHuo> BuMangHuo: 去看makefile, 没研究它做过什么
[08:26] <BuMangHuo> linux-headers 里面还有类似 arch, scripts 这些目录的
[08:27] <O0XX|Qiong> freeflying: 又来建设国家啊?
[08:27] <QiongMangHuo> BuMangHuo: 这个target应该就可以了
[08:27] <tryit> HowIsItGoing, 能移民的都是高手
[08:28] * QiongMangHuo afk
[08:29] <acacio> ÖÐÎÄ
[08:30] <^k^> 新 Ubuntu 14.04 LTS • 求助：14.04 x64 文件管理器，搜索文件必死机？ http://forum.ubuntu.org.cn/viewtopic.php?t=469348 如题，只要是在根上开始搜索文件，在搜索输入框一输入字符就死，除了不用它，还有解吗？ zz: famugi — 2015-04-07 15:37
[08:30] <tryit> iMadper, 你指的是网络架构师吧
[08:32] <tryit> iMadper, 发的那个链接应该是软件架构师吧
[08:33] <acacio_> irc用的是什么编码格式啊
[08:35] <QiongMangHuo> acacio_: 这个channel是utf8
[08:38] <O0XX|Qiong> iMadper: http://ww2.sinaimg.cn/bmiddle/a7cb85c1jw1eqwu0spo4fj20f00kumyb.jpg
[08:39] <iMadper> O0XX|Qiong: 看过...
[08:39] <freeflying> O0XX|Qiong: 手机的卡槽坏了，NND
[08:40] <happyaron> iMadper: 啊？
[08:40] <QiongMangHuo> freeflying: 啥手机
[08:41] <WinterLi> 华为的?
[08:42] <O0XX|Qiong> freeflying: 这也能坏?
[08:42] <O0XX|Qiong> freeflying: 你带电插拔sm卡了?
[08:42] <happyaron> freeflying: 你带点插拔sim卡？
[08:43] <happyaron> freeflying: 不频发插拔也不会挂啊，到底做了神马？
[08:43] <WinterLi> 华为的几个电话有名的坏插槽
[08:43] <WinterLi> 尤其不能用自己剪的卡
[08:43] <happyaron> 额这么牛
[08:43] <WinterLi> 嗯..
[08:44] <onlylove> nyfair: http://www.solidot.org/story?sid=43606
[08:44] <^k^> ⇪ ti: Solidot | YouTube开始推广VP9编码视频
[08:44] <onlylove> nyfair: 快喷之
[08:44] <freeflying> happyaron: 一共插拔了不到四次
[08:44] <WinterLi> 点背的.换一次卡,插槽就挂了.去售后告诉是人为的不管
[08:44] <freeflying> QiongMangHuo: P7
[08:44] <O0XX|Qiong> freeflying: 拿着去骂杜玉杰
[08:44] <happyaron> freeflying: 骂杜玉杰吧，我的没挂……
[08:45] <WinterLi> 果然是菊花的电话
[08:45] <freeflying> happyaron: 你的屏不是挂了嘛
[08:45] <onlylove> P7这么娇贵嘛？
[08:45] <nick_name_> INTELLIJ IEDA里面的IRC各种乱码啊。。。
[08:45] <happyaron> freeflying: 那是从好高摔到不平的石头地面了
[08:45] <happyaron> freeflying: 爱疯神马的也同样挂在那里过的。。。
[08:45] <onlylove> happyaron: 多高，10cm？
[08:46] <BuMangHuo> foxyproxy 的配置不能同步？ O0XX|Qiong iMadper
[08:46] <happyaron> onlylove: 地面么，1.5m?
[08:46] <iMadper> BuMangHuo: 那个垃圾怎么用啊? 快用autoproxy
[08:46] <BuMangHuo> iMadper: autoproxy 不行啊
[08:46] <BuMangHuo> iMadper: 用代理的时候，图标不转圈， 太渣了
[08:46] <happyaron> onlylove: 地面是类似岩石状，不平整的那种
[08:46] <iMadper> BuMangHuo: ... ... ...
[08:47] <happyaron> onlylove: 屏幕直接扣着下去了……
[08:47] <happyaron> freeflying: 快去骂杜玉杰吧
[08:47] <iMadper> BuMangHuo: foxyproxy我就从来没正常过
[08:47] <BuMangHuo> sim 卡槽都能挂啊？
[08:55] <happyaron> 貌似CNNIC的CA证书被mozilla给detrust了
[08:56] <happyaron> no zuo no die why you try
[08:57] <QiongMangHuo> happyaron: 奥特曼
[08:57] <happyaron> QiongMangHuo: 当时知道出事了，后来没关注
[08:57] <happyaron> QiongMangHuo: 今天回来看发现moz的人最后是detrust CA
[08:57] <happyaron> 最严厉惩罚了吧……
[08:58] <QiongMangHuo> HowIsItGoing: 辛苦科普十几年，一炸回到解放前。
[08:58] <freeflying> happyaron: iphone5c支持电信4G不
[08:58] <freeflying> 安卓手机真心不能用啊
[08:58] <happyaron> freeflying: 貌似不行
[08:59] <happyaron> freeflying: 现在5s很便宜了，别纠结那货
[08:59] <freeflying> happyaron: 买不起啊
[09:00] <O0XX|Qiong> freeflying: 买买买
[09:00] <O0XX|Qiong> freeflying: 5s很便宜的
[09:00] <O0XX|Qiong> freeflying: 对你来说
[09:00] <freeflying> QiongMangHuo: 股神再推荐支
[09:00] <freeflying> O0XX|Qiong: 你赞助了我就很便宜了
[09:00] <O0XX|Qiong> QiongMangHuo: 股神再推荐支
[09:00] <QiongMangHuo> freeflying: 不推荐了, 影响自己的判断, 别人赚了赔了我还有心理压力
[09:01] <O0XX|Qiong> freeflying: 你要买5s是吧?
[09:01] <QiongMangHuo> freeflying: 你出了?
[09:01] <O0XX|Qiong> freeflying: 好, 我赞助你个水晶壳
[09:01] <freeflying> QiongMangHuo: 没出啊
[09:02] <happyaron> freeflying: 弄个水货吧，应该在3.4k以内的
[09:02] <freeflying> happyaron: 16G的？
[09:02] <iMadper> happyaron: 水货支持电信2/3/4g?
[09:02] <iMadper> happyaron: 很少支持吧...
[09:02] <kohaner> 我要拜高手
[09:02] <freeflying> happyaron: 妈蛋的联通，我想续约，丫不让我续
[09:02] <iMadper> happyaron: 无锁 + 2/3/4g
[09:02] <happyaron> freeflying: yep
[09:02] <happyaron> iMadper: 不知道
[09:02] <iMadper> kohaner: 快去拜 QiongMangHuo
[09:03] <happyaron> freeflying: 为啥用联通呢
[09:03] <happyaron> iMadper: 不知道，我不用电信版爱疯
[09:03] <QiongMangHuo> iMadper: 啥?
[09:03] <happyaron> QiongMangHuo: 拜股神
[09:03] <kohaner> iM
[09:03] <iMadper> QiongMangHuo: 股神
[09:03] <gebjgd> freeflying, 为啥要用肾phone呢？
[09:03] <QiongMangHuo> 啥玩儿
[09:03] <O0XX|Qiong> QiongMangHuo: 股神
[09:03] <happyaron> gebjgd: 安卓太渣
[09:03] <kohaner> iMadper：谁？
[09:03] <iMadper> kohaner: 看不懂? QiongMangHuo 啊
[09:04] * QiongMangHuo 不说 不讨论 不推荐
[09:04] <iMadper> kohaner: 为何要再问一次
[09:04] <kohaner> 哦哦
[09:04] <kohaner> sorry
[09:04] <kohaner> iMadper：我的错 sorry
[09:05] <gebjgd> happyaron, 怎么会
[09:05] <gebjgd> happyaron, 表示对安卓很满意
[09:05] <HowIsItGoing> freeflying: 有电信半5s啊，不过不知道现在还能弄到不
[09:06] <WinterLi> 看了一下,我用的firefox,cnnic的证书还在列表里面 [happyaron]
[09:07] <happyaron> WinterLi: 版本是啥呢
[09:07] <WinterLi> beta 38
[09:07] <WinterLi> win下面的 [happyaron]
[09:08] <BuMangHuo> test
[09:08] <^k^> BuMangHuo:点点点. 17:08
[09:08] <happyaron> 不知道
[09:08] <WinterLi> firefox好像说是在4月1号以后开始使用cnnic证书的网站才报警什么的..
[09:09] <happyaron> 但是除了CNNIC，其实还有别的中国CA
[09:09] <happyaron> 要是比较紧张，就全都干掉吧
[09:09] <WinterLi> 爱怎么搞怎么搞...反正我也很少上https的站,上的几个国外站也全走的ss
[09:09] <iMadper> QiongMangHuo: 你要去霓虹啊?
[09:10] <iMadper> WinterLi: 4.1之后才被认证的网站, 开始不信任了.
[09:11] <WinterLi> 哦...知道哪个站是吗?我去试试看.. [iMadper]
[09:12] <iMadper> O0XX|Qiong: 怎么把这些炫耀的人给扔到楼下?
[09:12] <QiongMangHuo> iMadper: 预计去 如果签证能搞定的话
[09:13] <WinterLi> 开窗,动手 [iMadper]
[09:16] <HowIsItGoing> QiongMangHuo: 你要去霓虹？ 玩耍？ 开会？
[09:16] <happyaron> HowIsItGoing: 应该主要是玩耍吧
[09:16] <QiongMangHuo> HowIsItGoing: 母鸡啊, 签证好麻烦的样子
[09:16] <BuMangHuo> 我就关心行李箱多大
[09:17] <happyaron> BuMangHuo: ...
[09:17] <BuMangHuo> lol
[09:17] <happyaron> QiongMangHuo: 帮我带个马桶盖
[09:17] <HowIsItGoing> QiongMangHuo: 霓虹签证还好，我买了还没办
[09:17] <QiongMangHuo> HowIsItGoing: 买了?
[09:17] <HowIsItGoing> QiongMangHuo: 在旅行社买了
[09:17] <QiongMangHuo> happyaron: 只带小的贵的
[09:17] <happyaron> QiongMangHuo: 马桶盖还不贵么
[09:17] <BuMangHuo> QiongMangHuo: 求带几个 001 啊
[09:17] <BuMangHuo> cc iMadper
[09:18] <happyaron> QiongMangHuo: 5Ds R，貌似已经有人要收我的5D3了
[09:18] <QiongMangHuo> happyaron: 土壕!
[09:18] <QiongMangHuo> happyaron: 我就喜欢挥金如土!
[09:18] <HowIsItGoing> happyaron: 你要换相机？ 出给我吧
[09:18] <QiongMangHuo> happyaron: 代购装有钱人
[09:19] <BuMangHuo> HowIsItGoing: 你要换相机了这就？
[09:19] <happyaron> HowIsItGoing: 多少钱
[09:19] <happyaron> HowIsItGoing: 只有机身
[09:19] <nyfair> 菊苣
[09:19] <BuMangHuo> happyaron: ………… 这么快就出了
[09:19] <HowIsItGoing> BuMangHuo: 给老爹寻么一个
[09:19] <happyaron> BuMangHuo: 再不出就要贬值了
[09:19] <BuMangHuo> happyaron: ...
[09:19] <HowIsItGoing> happyaron: 就要机身，不知道价，二手一般打几折？
[09:19] <happyaron> HowIsItGoing: 看成色打折
[09:20] <HowIsItGoing> happyaron: 我相信你没拍多少。 lol
[09:20] <happyaron> HowIsItGoing: 我的可以算95-97新，保养很好，快门数肯定不到1w
[09:21] * BuMangHuo 围观壕们
[09:21] <HowIsItGoing> happyaron: 出个价撒，我都很久不关注相机了，这货现在能卖多少钱？
[09:21] <happyaron> 我看下，也好久没关注了
[09:23] <onlylove_> 不到一万的快门……
[09:23] <happyaron> HowIsItGoing: 水货新机到手13.5~14.5k吧
[09:23] <happyaron> onlylove_: 怎么了？
[09:24] <HowIsItGoing> happyaron: 现在还有新机？
[09:24] <happyaron> HowIsItGoing: 必须有
[09:24] <HowIsItGoing> happyaron: 乃出多少撒？
[09:24] <happyaron> HowIsItGoing: 不知道啊
[09:24] <happyaron> HowIsItGoing: 你能接受多少
[09:25] <HowIsItGoing> happyaron: 不知道，lol 没想好换机身还是买镜头，我老爹那个机身估计拍了有60k了，快门不太灵光了
[09:28] <iMadper> O0XX|Qiong: http://item.taobao.com/item.htm?spm=a230r.1.14.28.IuilM4&id=15301429836&ns=1&abbucket=2#detail
[09:28] <^k^> iMadper: ⇪ 树莓派3双核A20开发板安卓Cortex-a7卡片电脑pcduino cubieboard2-淘宝网 pp: 399.00
[09:28] <happyaron> HowIsItGoing: 原来是什么机身
[09:29] <HowIsItGoing> happyaron: 40D
[09:29] <happyaron> HowIsItGoing: 欢乐吧
[09:29] <happyaron> 换了吧
[09:29] <happyaron> HowIsItGoing: 那个机器60k的话，快门应该基本不准了
[09:30] <onlylove_> http://www.solidot.org/story?sid=43607
[09:30] <^k^> ⇪ ti: Solidot | Git诞生十周年
[09:30] <HowIsItGoing> happyaron: 我也怀疑，不过这货号称100k次快门
[09:30] <onlylove_> 大牛就是大牛，给我一个月我也搞不出git
[09:31] <happyaron> HowIsItGoing: 额真的有么
[09:31] <onlylove_> HowIsItGoing: 人就说能按100K次而已
[09:31] <happyaron> onlylove_: 不是
[09:31] <onlylove_> happyaron: 有效100K？
[09:31] <happyaron> onlylove_: 100k次快门，代表100k次时快门还是准的，一般可以达到有效的60%
[09:32] <happyaron> onlylove_: 5D2有效100k，有人按了200k次，快门还是基本准的，命特别壕
[09:32] <happyaron> 好
[09:32] <happyaron> onlylove_: 所以60k基本是个坎儿
[09:32] <onlylove_> happyaron: 过不去就死了呗
[09:32] <HowIsItGoing> happyaron: 据说办工厂快门比较弱逼，不如鞋厂的耐艹
[09:33] <QiongMangHuo> ...
[09:33] <happyaron> onlylove_: 过去了也是随时死
[09:33] <happyaron> HowIsItGoing: 哈哈
[09:33] <onlylove_> QiongMangHuo: 想插话不知道说啥？
[09:33] <HowIsItGoing> happyaron: 那个40D命运多舛，已经因为err99换过一次快门了
[09:33] <onlylove_> QiongMangHuo: 赶紧收了 happyaron的机器，然后就可以插话了
[09:33] <QiongMangHuo> 加农炮和耐克我看懂了 别的没看懂
[09:34] * iMadper 勉强跟上了谈话的内容, 但是我没杀可以说的.
[09:35] <HowIsItGoing> freeflying: 叔儿，乃收了自行车挂架没？
[09:35] * O0XX|Qiong 我靠, 都研究开加农炮了...
[09:35] <BuMangHuo> 这一屏幕完全加不进去话啊
[09:35] <QiongMangHuo> onlylove_: 佳能和尼康
[09:35] <onlylove_> BuMangHuo: 你怎么会加不进去，不是有D7K么
[09:36] <happyaron> HowIsItGoing: 14k，水货机全套东西外加一原装电，原厂UV镜，一SD卡，国行发票，可否
[09:36] <onlylove_> QiongMangHuo: 给 O0XX|Qiong讲
[09:36] <BuMangHuo> onlylove_: 别闹，人谈的是 5d3r
[09:36] * O0XX|Qiong 早就加不进话了..
[09:36] <happyaron> HowIsItGoing: 快门数我去确认下
[09:36] <happyaron> 可能比预想还少些
[09:36] <onlylove_> BuMangHuo: 你的D7K没快门？
[09:36] <HowIsItGoing> happyaron: 为毛卖机身加UV？
[09:36] <BuMangHuo> 对啊
[09:37] <BuMangHuo> 为啥有 UV？
[09:37] <iMadper> 对啊
[09:37] <HowIsItGoing> happyaron: 镜头尺寸对不上没法用的。
[09:37] <iMadper> 为啥有UV?
[09:37] * iMadper 赶紧无脑复读了两句话
[09:37] <happyaron> HowIsItGoing: 那就没有uv，脑残了
[09:37] <QiongMangHuo> 对啊, 为啥有UV?
[09:38] * iMadper 求北京家用isp推荐!
[09:38] <iMadper> QiongMangHuo: ...
[09:38] <happyaron> HowIsItGoing: 电池不值钱了，减500
[09:38] <happyaron> HowIsItGoing: 13.5k
[09:38] <O0XX|Qiong> iMadper: 长宽
[09:38] <iMadper> QiongMangHuo: 你个浓眉大眼的家伙, 竟然也无脑复读...
[09:38] <onlylove> iMadper: 长宽？方正？
[09:38] <iMadper> O0XX|Qiong: 扁担长板凳宽?
[09:38] <iMadper> onlylove: 我查查.
[09:39] <BuMangHuo> 那个啥博士啊
[09:39] <QiongMangHuo> iMadper: 联通 https://www.v2ex.com/t/182083#reply19
[09:39] <^k^> ⇪ ti: 一个北京联通沃宽 100M 提速客户端的开源 Java 实现 - V2EX
[09:39] <iMadper> QiongMangHuo: 赞.
[09:39] <QiongMangHuo> iMadper: 无限升级100M
[09:40] <iMadper> QiongMangHuo: 赞.
[09:40] <onlylove> QiongMangHuo: 会被查不
[09:40] <HowIsItGoing> happyaron: 额，我得先问问我老爹是想要个全副还是鸟机……
[09:42] <happyaron> HowIsItGoing: http://www.amazon.cn/dp/B002BSHNH2/
[09:42] <^k^> happyaron: ⇪ Canon 佳能-Canon 佳能 LP-E6 锂电池-价格 报价 图片 评测 多少钱[佳能电池] pp: ￥ 402.00
[09:42] <happyaron> HowIsItGoing: 卡是这货的16G版本，可以给你两个新的，我这有好多 http://item.jd.com/712630.html
[09:42] <^k^> happyaron: ⇪ 【闪迪SDHC】闪迪（SanDisk）至尊极速VideoSDHC存储卡 8G-Class10-45MB/s【行情 报价 价格 评测】-京东 pp: 59.00
[09:42] <happyaron> HowIsItGoing: 嗯嗯
[09:46] <BuMangHuo> 终于把印象笔记导到evernote里面了， ervrnote 居然没有那个新版本的页面？
[09:50] <HowIsItGoing> QiongMangHuo: 卧槽，这还用java写？ 妈蛋就是调了三个api撒，还弄个java，真头大
[09:50] <QiongMangHuo> HowIsItGoing: 喜欢java的人都是这个调调
[09:50] <onlylove> HowIsItGoing: 这年头java人多
[09:51] <HowIsItGoing> QiongMangHuo: onlylove 都是异教徒，统统拖出去烧死
[09:51] <onlylove> HowIsItGoing: 别的不会，就会java，然后就这样了
[09:51] <QiongMangHuo> HowIsItGoing: java挺好的一个语言, 就是用java的笨蛋太多
[09:52] <onlylove> QiongMangHuo: 求不点名
[09:52] <HowIsItGoing> QiongMangHuo: java是一个挺好的语言，就是jre太操蛋
[09:52] <QiongMangHuo> onlylove: 你在写java?
[09:52] * QiongMangHuo 地图炮了...
[09:52] <onlylove> QiongMangHuo: selenium + testng
[09:52] <QiongMangHuo> onlylove: 看不懂
[09:52] <onlylove> QiongMangHuo: 其实我连java怎么回事都不知道
[09:53] <onlylove> QiongMangHuo: testng是一个java的测试框架
[09:54] <onlylove> QiongMangHuo: 我用过jdk的时候就hadoop和tomcat还有idrac这东西，java怎么回事真心不清楚，写的代码都是依样画葫芦
[09:55] <^k^> 暂无新帖 讲个笑话吧: 你不爱我 : 一对恋人在山中被野人抓住说:你们吃掉对方的大便就放了你们。 恋人做到了,归途中女人大哭,男人问其原因,女人伤心的说:你不爱我,不然你不会拉那么多
[09:55] <onlylove> 谁把这重口味K踢了
[09:58] <onlylove> alvin_rxg: 你……不至于吧，我就吐槽下KK的重口味笑话
[09:58] <alvin_rxg> :|
[10:04] <jusss> onlylove 下班了没
[10:04] <happyaron> 对1DX升级十分期待，但是貌似一时半会儿等不到……
[10:05] <onlylove_> jusss: 咩事情，快下了
[10:14] <onlylove_> jusss: 你不说话啊，我待会可真下班了
[10:18] <jusss> happyaron: 每次升级系统，systemd都会出现磁盘检查，而且无限的结束不了
[10:19] <jusss> happyaron: 你遇到过吗
[10:20] <happyaron> jusss: 没。。。
[10:24] <freeflying> HowIsItGoing: 没
[10:37] <halenrain> hi,all
[10:37] <^k^> halenrain:点点点. 18:37
[10:37] <halenrain> Bus 001 Device 006: ID 0bda:8176 Realtek Semiconductor Corp. RTL8188CUS 802.11n WLAN Adapter
[10:37] <halenrain> ^k^: hi
[10:37] <^k^> halenrain:点点点. 18:37
[10:38] <halenrain> I should modprobe what modules?
[10:52] <happyaron> halenrain: install firmware-linux
[12:39] <iotouch> hi
[12:39] <^k^> iotouch:点点点. 20:39
[12:40] <onlylove> 高管不在？
[12:41] <^k^> 新 Ubuntu 15.04 • 从14.10升级到15.04发现声音的诡异问题 http://forum.ubuntu.org.cn/viewtopic.php?t=469350 这几天14.10经过多次升级15.04都发现个诡异问题，我系统开启了两个用户一个是root一个是普通用户，用什么用户升级，那个用户登录就没有声音。经过数次安装都是这样用root升级就root无声，用普
[12:41] <^k^> ─> 通用户升级就普通用户无声，有没有人有解决方法？ zz: chacha — 2015-04-07 20:40
[13:02] <boring> 有大神木有
[13:03] <boring> 求教如何翻墙
[13:06] <onlylove> boring: 这边不负责教你怎么翻墙，自己想法解决
[13:06] <boring> 不是啊！我找了好多的教程什么的，都失败了
[13:07] <onlylove> boring: 那这边也不管
[13:07] <boring> ...
[13:09] <boring> 那能不能传授点经验，我想走linux开发，就是学了写基本语言
[13:19] <iotouch> free flying hi
[13:19] <iotouch> free flying hi
[13:20] <boring> hi
[13:20] <^k^> boring:点点点. 21:20
[13:21] <boring> 我都不会用irc
[13:22] <boring> ^k^：就不能教教我么
[13:25] <^k^> boring,
[13:27] <boring> ^k^，恩？
[13:29] <^k^> boring,
：你是在叫我，还是无聊了
[13:58] <cherrot> roylez_, 你的支持断点续传吼？
[13:58] <boring> 现在有多少人在线了？
[13:59] <boring> 活的
[13:59] <cxy> ……
[13:59] <boring> cxy：你能不能给点linux 的意见
[14:00] <cxy> 我三个菜鸟
[14:00] <cxy> 是个
[14:00] <boring> 问题是我今天刚知道irc
[14:00] <cxy> 我一直做java应用开发 没整过linux
[14:01] <boring> 我还是个学生
[14:01] <boring> 想从事linux驱动开发
[14:01] <cxy> 好好学习
[14:01] <cxy> 共同进步
[14:01] <boring> 就是想找个前辈传授下学习的经验，知道怎么学
[14:03] <cxy> 不要做一个浮躁的人，浮躁的人分两种，一种是只观望而不去学的人，另一种是只学而不深入的人。不要浮躁就行了。
[14:04] <cxy> 这可能是公共频道，不知道会不会影响到大家，我去学习下教程去
[14:04] <boring> 恩，就是老师只是带我们入门嘛！差不多都懂一些
[14:05] <cxy> boring: 你的学习方向是哪一块？
[14:06] <boring> 我是软件工程专业，打算主攻linux驱动这方面，学校不教，就只有自己了
[14:06] <^k^> 暂无新帖 讲个笑话吧: 竟然是图片 http://i1.xiaohua.fd.zol-img.com.cn/t_s600x5000/g3/M06/00/08/Cg-4V1I2sCOIKur7AAB8gZvhNYEAALrKgDTPpoAAHyZ437.jpg 我也来玩玩
[14:21] <roylez_> cherrot: 支持
[14:27] <boring> 谁给一个学习C 的网站
[14:27] <cherrot> roylez_, got it ~ 最近家里网速渣 好烦
[15:02] <wangyi> fun
|
ubuntu-chat
|
2024-05-13T22:11:16.158456
| 2015-04-07T00:00:00 |
{
"license": "Public Domain",
"authors": [
"BuMangHuo",
"EO22",
"HowIsItGoing",
"O0XX",
"O0XX_",
"O0XX|Qiong",
"QiongMangHuo",
"WinterLi",
"^k^",
"acacio",
"acacio_",
"alvin_rxg",
"boring",
"carmelo1989",
"cherrot",
"cxy",
"eexpss",
"freeflying",
"gebjgd",
"gfrog",
"gfxmode",
"grass",
"halenrain",
"happyaron",
"iMadper",
"if_e1se",
"iotouch",
"jiero",
"jusss",
"jusss`",
"jusssss",
"kandu",
"kohaner",
"nick_name_",
"nyfair",
"onlylove",
"onlylove_",
"onlylove__",
"roylez_",
"tryit",
"wangyi",
"yunfan"
],
"url": "https://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2015/04/07/%23ubuntu-cn.txt",
"channel": "#ubuntu-cn"
}
|
2015-04-07-#ubuntu-app-devel
|
[07:43] <davidcalle> Morning all o/
[08:41] <nerochiaro> balloons: hi, I have been told that you can maybe help me figure out how to have graphical unit tests running while using debuild
[10:42] <popey> bzoltan: zbenjamin I'm having trouble with the sdk - I keep getting "make: *** No targets specified and no makefile found. Stop." and somehow via random clicking i can make it work, but don't know what makes it work again.
[10:42] <popey> lp:~verzegnassi-stefano/ubuntu-docviewer-app/pdfview-show-hide-header is the branch I am trying to build
[10:42] <zbenjamin> popey: lets see
[10:42] <popey> I am branching that, then "qtcreator CMakeLists.txt"
[10:42] <popey> then add -DCLICK_MODE=on
[10:43] <popey> then go to the publish tab and try to build.. and I get this:-
[10:43] <popey> http://paste.ubuntu.com/10760632/
[10:46] <zbenjamin> popey: does the same happen if you open qtcreator and use the "open project" dialog to open it?
[10:47] <popey> lemme see
[10:47] <popey> (sdk takes a very long time to start)
[10:48] <zbenjamin> popey: i see the problem, you need to open the project tab and assign kits to the project when you open it the first time
[10:48] <zbenjamin> popey: normally QtC should show the tab by default
[10:48] <zbenjamin> popey: weird that it doesn't
[10:48] <popey> ok
[10:48] <popey> also, while I'm reporting things http://i.imgur.com/7BUsVyx.png
[10:48] <popey> look at the bottom middle
[10:49] <popey> looks like raw code where a blog post should be
[10:49] <zbenjamin> wth
[10:49] <zbenjamin> popey: seems its actually a post with that code :D
[10:50] <popey> where do I assign a kit?
[10:50] <popey> http://i.imgur.com/SUXAjnM.png
[10:50] <popey> I already have one I think?
[10:50] <zbenjamin> popey: yes you have one. Its still not working?
[10:51] <popey> well i already had one at the start of this conversation
[10:51] <popey> but launching sdk then opening the project seems to be building now...
[10:51] <popey> rather than from the cli
[10:56] <zbenjamin> popey: its possible that your schroot session is broken
[10:56] <popey> \o/ it built
[10:57] <popey> also
[10:57] <popey> alan@deep-thought:/tmp/pdfview-show-hide-header$ mount | grep schroot | wc -l
[10:57] <popey> 3640
[10:57] <popey> can we fix that?
[10:57] <popey> 11:57:17 up 1:30, 4 users, load average: 2.19, 2.91, 3.08
[10:57] <zbenjamin> popey: omG
[10:57] <popey> I know, right?
[10:57] <zbenjamin> popey: sudo schroot --all-sessions -e
[10:57] <popey> it happens _all_ the time
[10:58] <zbenjamin> popey: then run click-chroot-agent -r
[10:58] <zbenjamin> popey: i know, schroot is the weak spot in the SDK atm
[10:58] <popey> hmm, one is busy
[10:58] <popey> E: 10mount: umount: /var/lib/schroot/mount/click-ubuntu-sdk-14.10-amd64-130f3373-f078-4f8e-8a84-863aa59f3b1d/dev/pts: target is busy
[10:58] <popey> but I have no sdk open
[11:00] <zbenjamin> popey: no idea where the busy flag is coming from, bzoltan also had his fight with that problem a few days ago
[11:02] <popey> thanks for the help zbenjamin !
[11:02] <zbenjamin> popey: np
[11:10] <ogra_> bzoltan, for a start with snappy i'd go with supporting nodejs snaps ... that gives you a javascript based server part your app can use and is most easy to package (you just need the node binary and a way to pull npm mudules in)
[11:11] <ogra_> (for the combined click/snap idea)
[11:34] <bzoltan> popey: that is horror
[12:01] <popey> bzoltan: ya!
[12:28] <bzoltan> popey: what I wonder about is that I could not figure out what locks those mount points. I could not find a process what uses those directories. So I needed a massive cleanup and reboot to get rid of the zombie mounts
[12:29] <ogra_> bzoltan, do you mount /proc ans /sys inside ?
[12:29] <ogra_> *and
[12:29] <ogra_> thats typically holding it ...
[12:30] <bzoltan> ogra_: I do .. .or better say the click/schroot does
[12:31] <ogra_> right, you should check they get properly unmounted
[12:31] <bzoltan> ogra_: do you think that schroot would work without those mounts?
[12:31] <ogra_> no, they are needsed by some packages during install
[12:32] <ogra_> but they should get cleanly unmounted along with the schroot
[12:32] <bzoltan> ogra_: I see.. to be frank I have never check out what schroot does inside. I would expect it to mount-umount automatically
[12:32] <ogra_> me too
[12:32] <ogra_> perhaps you just discovered a bug :)
[12:33] <bzoltan> ogra_: I am a bit worried that now as schroot is part of the snappy story we built an even bigger project on this pretty unstable and unreliable tool
[12:34] * ogra_ never used schroot ... i cant judge ...
[12:34] <ogra_> i just use a chroot inside an ubuntu-core tarball and cars for mounting needed stuff manually
[12:34] <bzoltan> ogra_: if you have used click than you have used schroot :)
[12:34] <ogra_> *care
[12:35] <ogra_> huh ?
[12:35] <ogra_> why would building a click use schroot
[12:35] * ogra_ always just does "click build ." with the right metadata files in place
[12:36] <ogra_> ... the same way i build a snap :)
[13:08] <bfiller> rpadovani: thanks for making those fixes to settings branch for browser
[13:08] <bfiller> rpadovani: seems to be working better
[13:09] <bfiller> rpadovani, oSoMoN : one question, is there supposed to be a search engine setting on the page? I think it showed up once but now is not being displayed at all
[13:10] <oSoMoN> bfiller, only when there’s more than one custom search engine definition in $HOME/.local/share/webbrowser-app/searchengines/
[13:11] <oSoMoN> bfiller, it’s relatively hidden for now, on purpose. In the future I’d like us to ship several search engine definition by default, but that will require more changes to the backend
[13:11] <bfiller> oSoMoN: ok
[13:11] <oSoMoN> bfiller, in a way, this setting entry is an easter egg :)
[13:12] <bfiller> oSoMoN: where on disk is the settings file stored?
[13:12] <oSoMoN> bfiller, ~/.config/webbrowser-app/webbrowser-app.conf
[13:12] <bfiller> oSoMoN: just want to test again with the file not present
[13:13] <oSoMoN> bfiller, note that this used to be ~/.config/webbrowser-app/settings.conf, but with the migration to Qt.labs.settings, the filename had to change
[13:13] <bfiller> oSoMoN: thanks
[13:15] <bfiller> oSoMoN: I think the branch is good to go now, adding the validation for the url would be nice, but not critical I think
[13:17] <oSoMoN> bfiller, agreed. I’m working on a branch that adds the "clear cache" option, and I’d like to land them all together if possible though, so it should give rpadovani a bit more time to add the validation if he wants
[13:17] <bfiller> oSoMoN: great, hopefully we can land by tomorrow
[13:52] <bzoltan> ogra_: where the target APIs come from if not from a schroot?
[14:16] <ogra_> bzoltan, which target APIs ?
[14:17] <ogra_> bzoltan, if i write a website i also dont need any chroots :) i dont use C++
[14:17] <ogra_> QML is happy without a chroot for rolling a click
[14:17] <bzoltan> ogra_: like your system is an LTS and you develop for a 15.10 based device
[14:18] <bzoltan> ogra_: OK, you do not use code completion and syntax highlight :) and you do not care if you accidentally use non existing APIs :)
[14:21] <ogra_> bzoltan, i usually develop on my device ... i roll an empty click with Main.qml in it ... and then start editing in /opt/click ... once i have the code working fine on the device, i sync it back to the PC and build the final click
[14:22] <bzoltan> ogra_: yes, I remember you explained it... it is the safest one
[14:22] <ogra_> so i know the APIs work :)
[14:22] <bzoltan> ogra_: it would be fun to hijack the device (or the emulator) rootfs and use it as SDK
[14:23] <rickspencer3> kalikiana, hi
[14:23] <rickspencer3> so, I am running into a weird thing with u1db
[14:24] <rickspencer3> in a nutshell, it seems to write records slowly on my desktop, which is making it hard on my tests
[14:24] <ogra_> bzoltan, well, thats efeectively waht i do :) i have thre terminals open with ssh to the device, one with vim, one where i constantly tail -f the apps log file and one to run/stop the app
[14:28] <bzoltan> ogra_: yes, that is the way :)
[14:28] <ogra_> lol
[14:28] <bzoltan> ogra_: I wish to make an SDK like that with IDE. It is totally possible and feasible.
[14:31] <ogra_> bzoltan, indeed it is :) but i think the majority of useers will use the full SDK anyway
[14:47] <bzoltan> ogra_: We could totally do a full SDK with on device development :)
[14:47] <ogra_> :)
[16:07] <rpadovani> bfiller, thanks to you for the review :-) oSoMoN working on the url right now!
[16:08] <rpadovani> popey, do you have 5 minutes for a query?
[16:08] <bfiller> rpadovani: no problem, thanks for the code :)
[16:08] <popey> for you, always
[16:08] <rpadovani> :-)
[16:28] <nerochiaro> balloons: ping
[16:34] <rpadovani> bfiller, oSoMoN should be ready to land now
[17:05] <oSoMoN> rpadovani, not sure how that happened, but there is a conflict now when merging your branch
[17:06] <rpadovani> lolwut, on it
[17:11] <rpadovani> oSoMoN, there was an edit to looksLikeAUrl() function (I based to the one I had in my branch). I reflected it in UrlManagement.js, should work now
[17:18] <oSoMoN> rpadovani, thanks! now there is another conflict when merging first the qt-labs-settings branch into trunk then yours, no idea why, I’m looking into it
[17:18] <rpadovani> oSoMoN, lol. Should I merge your branch in mine?
[17:20] <oSoMoN> rpadovani, well it doesn’t seem to do anything
[17:20] * oSoMoN is puzzled
[17:23] <oSoMoN> "bzr help criss-cross" has some hints as to what might have happened
[17:25] <oSoMoN> rpadovani, merging your branch with --weave fixes the issue, I wonder if there’s a way to have the CI train use that option when merging…
[17:26] <rpadovani> oSoMoN, probably both of use merged from trunk, and so we had criss cross
[17:26] <oSoMoN> yeah, that’s unfortunate
[17:27] <oSoMoN> rpadovani, I can probably remove my MR from the list though, as yours is based on it anyway
[17:27] <oSoMoN> I’ll do that
[17:31] <rpadovani> oSoMoN, ok, thanks, let me know if there is something I can do to thelp
[17:32] <oSoMoN> rpadovani, all good now, rebuilding in the silo
[17:37] <nik90> ahayzen: ping
[17:37] <ahayzen> nik90, pong
[17:39] <nik90> ahayzen: hey in your day delegate expand branch, couldn't we use ListItem.Expandable + UbuntuListView combination? That would give us the benefit of ensuring automatically that when the listitem is expanded it will be fully visible
[17:39] <nik90> so we wouldn't have to define that ourselves by adjusting the flickable contentY
[17:39] <ahayzen> nik90, i'll have an investigation :) ... also note the expandable part will have a big label at the top then a sortof list thing below
[17:40] <nik90> true, but the ListItem Expandable is essentially an empty listitem..it gives us all the freedom to define whatever we need inside it
[17:41] <ahayzen> ok i'll have a look thanks :)
[17:41] <nik90> ahayzen: the reason I am suggesting this is because we then wouldn't have to worry about normal or expanded states along with their transition since that will all be taken care for us
[17:41] <nik90> ahayzen: but it looks and works great atm
[17:41] <ahayzen> as long as I can keep the slick animations i'll try and use the expandable :)
[17:42] <nik90> ack.
[17:44] <nik90> ahayzen: one more general question if you got time
[17:44] <ahayzen> yup
[17:45] <nik90> ahayzen: realistically I think that the new weather app could replace the old weather app when the phone makes the vivid transition..I was thinking may be we should start using the new listitems in Ubuntu.Components 1.2
[17:45] <nik90> ahayzen: although after typing it out, I realized I wouldn't be able to develop it on my phone running RTM
[17:46] <ahayzen> nik90, i guess :) ... i should be jumping from utopic -> vivid this week...but yeah i'm on rtm as well...tbh with most of my projects i'm waiting for rtm to sync with vivid before i make the jump otherwise development will be a pain
[17:47] <nik90> ahayzen: fair point..it is best to wait for rtm to sync with vivid
[19:08] <mardy> what is the right way of translating the .desktop files, in click apps? X-Ubuntu-Gettext-Domain or Name[<lang>]?
[19:09] <mardy> popey: you might know ^
[19:10] <popey> uhhhh
[19:12] <ahayzen> we have an _ before the thing that needs to be translated in music http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~music-app-dev/music-app/remix/view/head:/com.ubuntu.music_music.desktop.in.in i think cmake does the rest of the magic? IIRC
[19:16] <mardy> ahayzen: but if I open the ~/.local/share/applications/com.ubuntu.music_music_2.0.846.desktop file, I see it's full with Name[]...
[19:16] <ahayzen> as i said cmake does the magic :)
[19:17] <ahayzen> so Name[<lang>] is probably correct
[19:18] <mardy> ahayzen: and now I see that /usr/share/applications/ubuntu-system-settings.desktop uses X-Ubuntu-Gettext-Domain instead... I'm confused
[19:18] <ahayzen> ugh :/
[19:19] <mardy> Saviq: do you know how the shell translated the applications' name?
[19:19] <mardy> *translates
[19:42] <Saviq> mardy, from the .desktop file
[19:42] <Saviq> mardy, it reads Field[locale]= from there
[19:43] <mardy> Saviq: how come that the System Settings is translated, even though it has none of those? It uses X-Ubuntu-Gettext-Domain, but that doesn't seem to work in my app
[19:43] <Saviq> mardy, it does fall back to gettext indeed
[19:44] <mardy> Saviq: maybe X-Ubuntu-Gettext-Domain works for system apps, and not for clicks?
[19:44] <Saviq> mardy, yeah, we're not looking in the right dir
[19:44] <Saviq> mardy, this could be potentially be added, actually
[19:44] <Saviq> mardy, file a bug with qtmir please
[19:44] <mardy> Saviq: it would indeed make me happy :-)
[19:45] <Saviq> mardy, you can easily put the translations in the .desktop file in the mean time
[19:45] <Saviq> use intltool-merge
[19:45] <Saviq> gtg
[19:45] <mardy> Saviq: I'm trying to, it's a bit hard with qmake :-)
[19:45] <mardy> Saviq: thanks, I'll file the bug soonish
[19:57] <mardy> Saviq: bug 1441320, FYI
[20:38] <mrqtros> popey ping
[20:42] <mrqtros> mhall119 ping
[20:43] <mhall119> mrqtros: pong
[20:44] <mrqtros> mhall119 hello, how are you?
[20:44] <mhall119> going fine, and yourself?
[20:46] <mrqtros> I'm fine too :)
[20:46] <mrqtros> I want to ask... Shorts were removed from basic installation of Ubuntu Phone?
[20:48] <mhall119> mrqtros: popey would know that, it's on my phone but I havne't wiped it clean and re-flashed in agest
[20:48] <mhall119> mrqtros: also, it may be one the N4 images but not the Bq ones, or vice versa, the choice of which to pre-install is done per-device-image
[20:49] <mrqtros> mhall119 seems that I am right. I just installed OS from scratch and have not seen it
[20:49] <mhall119> mrqtros: is it in the store so people can still get it?
[20:49] <mrqtros> In my case it was n4
[20:49] <mrqtros> Yep
[20:49] <mhall119> ok, cool
[20:49] <mrqtros> But I like to see it in basic set of apps...
[20:49] <mhall119> yeah, I know some others were removed (or never made it in)
[20:50] <mhall119> the more apps in the image, the more tests need to be run on each image, and the more chance of a test failing and blocking image promotion
[20:50] <mhall119> really, the fewer apps in the image itself the better from the QA/CI perspective, but we still want to ship enough that the default image is usable
[20:51] <mhall119> mrqtros: some apps were removed, and then later re-added after they had more work, so there's still a possibility of shorts being re-added :)
[20:52] <mrqtros> What do you mean when saying "had more work"? That Shorts become low-quality app and must be reworked?
[20:53] <mrqtros> Both I and Joey ready to develop it more
[20:53] <mrqtros> But there are no official designs
[20:55] <mrqtros> mhall119 we want to make reboot of our app - use C++, change visual design and so on
[20:55] <nik90> mrqtros: at the moment, shorts app is pretty much the only app which still has a old design..the gradient backgrounds were deprecated long time back. I presume once the design is up to date, it might make its way back into the default set of apps
[20:56] <nik90> mrqtros: the calendar app was also removed some time back, but with a good redesign it made its way back into the default collection
[20:56] <mhall119> I think even Music was removed at one point
[20:57] <nik90> mrqtros: and that's what mhall119 suggested with "had more work" .. no one is suggesting that shorts-app is a low quality app or anything
[20:57] <mhall119> nik90: weather still uses the old gradients too
[20:57] <mhall119> but that was made with collaboration from the weather channel, so it's going to be slower to change
[20:57] <nik90> mhall119: Have you checked out weather reboot? Its a radically new design that removes those old gradients
[20:57] <mhall119> nik90: no I haven't, is it in the store?
[20:58] <mhall119> mrqtros: I certainly didn't mean shorts wasn't high quality
[20:58] <nik90> mhall119: not yet, its being worked on at the moment by myself, victor thompson, ahayzen and martin
[20:58] <nik90> mhall119: we are hoping to release a beta to the store when it is a bit more ready
[20:59] <ahayzen> weather reboot \o/
[20:59] <mrqtros> mhall119 it's looking like you are comforting me :)) All is ok, I can see problems
[20:59] <mrqtros> And I want to solve them
[21:00] <mrqtros> But process is slow. Very slow. We are awaiting, awaiting with no hope :)
[21:00] <mrqtros> So can we made changes and propose them?
[21:01] <mhall119> mrqtros: absolutely, it's your app
[21:01] <mrqtros> Both I and Joey are extremely accurate in that aspect
[21:02] <mhall119> mrqtros: if the design team isn't being responsive we can take it up with them, but don't feel like you can't work on things based on your own ideas or user feedback
[21:04] <mrqtros> mhall119 we will copy UI trends from all other apps
[21:06] <mrqtros> mhall119 nik90 thanks guys for your participation in discussion
[21:07] <mrqtros> We will make Shorts reboot in ~month.
[21:08] <nik90> mrqtros: I initially worked with mihir on the calendar app to improve its design when it got removed. After a good amount of work, it was then picked up by the design team as well. You could do the same by getting the shorts app in line with the current set of apps in terms of background, UI components like the bottom edge etc.
[21:08] <nik90> mrqtros: Good luck!
[21:09] <rpadovani> or you can just ignore design team, create an awesome app and live happy :-)
[21:09] <nik90> rpadovani: to be honest, the design team are being overwhelmed at the moment..way too many things to design with fewer people on it..no can be blamed here
[21:10] <rpadovani> I don't want to blame them at all, I fully understand that. Just, we know they are busy, so we take care of our own ;-)
[21:11] <nik90> yeah
[21:16] <mrqtros> rpadovani ok, thanks)
[21:22] <popey> heya
[21:22] * popey reads backscroll
[21:24] <popey> I agree with what everyone says :)
|
ubuntu-chat
|
2024-05-13T22:11:16.184251
| 2015-04-07T00:00:00 |
{
"license": "Public Domain",
"authors": [
"Saviq",
"ahayzen",
"bfiller",
"bzoltan",
"davidcalle",
"mardy",
"mhall119",
"mrqtros",
"nerochiaro",
"nik90",
"oSoMoN",
"ogra_",
"popey",
"rickspencer3",
"rpadovani",
"zbenjamin"
],
"url": "https://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2015/04/07/%23ubuntu-app-devel.txt",
"channel": "#ubuntu-app-devel"
}
|
2015-04-07-#ubuntu-devel
|
[00:35] <psusi> cyphermox, I'm looking for someone other than cjwatson to pester about this and you seem to have done some work on ubiquity lately... could you have a look at bug #1418706? It seems to be a very nasty bug in how ubiquity is executing the partman scripts and seems to me to be rather release critical, with 15.04 coming up fast... I suspect the underlying bug will cause many serious problems other than the one named in the bug.
[00:41] <infinity> psusi: I think I already heaped that on his TODO over the weekend.
[00:42] <psusi> hehe... ok, good, as long as it gets taken care of before release... I just get nervous that something this serious will be released ;)
[00:49] <cyphermox> psusi: I'm already aware of it, and that's what I was looking at when you pinged
[00:49] <psusi> whoohoo ;)
[00:49] <cyphermox> it's kind of suspicious
[00:49] <psusi> I'm available if you have any questions about it ;)
[00:49] <cyphermox> but I need to setup my qemu to boot with EFI
[00:50] <psusi> already did some preliminary tracing, just don't have the familiarity with ubiquity or the time to fix it myself... been real busy lately with my day job... damn FDA and silly MISRA requirements...
[00:51] <psusi> here's the command I used to reproduce it: sudo qemu-system-x86_64 -enable-kvm -drive if=ide,file=/home/psusi/Music/isos/vivid-desktop-amd64.iso,media=cdrom -drive if=ide,file=/dev/faldara/test -vga std -m 1024
[00:51] <cyphermox> thanks, that's helpful
[00:51] <psusi> sorry, that was bios mode... make it this one: sudo qemu-system-x86_64 -enable-kvm -bios /usr/share/qemu/OVMF.fd -drive if=ide,file=/home/psusi/Music/isos/vivid-desktop-amd64.iso,media=cdrom -drive if=ide,file=/dev/faldara/test -vga std -m 1024
[00:52] <psusi> after installing the ovmf package of course
[00:52] <infinity> Yeah, I was going to mention the lack of '-bios /usr/share/qemu/OVMF.fd' on that first line.
[00:52] <cyphermox> I already know the details for EFI bios :)
[00:52] <psusi> kk ;)
[00:53] <psusi> I looked over the partman logs and added a few set -x's and found that the visual.d script from partman-efi was actually creating the new partition prior to running the init.d scripts, which then detected the new, unformatted partition as an existing bios mode install.. the scripts are NOT supposed to be run in that order
[00:54] <psusi> then of course, even when the condition is detected and the prompt displayed, ubiquity needs to wait for the reply instead of proceeding to the next task and leaving the prompt window orphaned/hung
[00:58] <psusi> hrm... that reminds me... maybe a topic we might discuss at the next uds: debian now has support for running d-i under Xwin for a graphical install.. this may be a good replacement for ubiquity entirely?
[01:01] <infinity> psusi: Using live-installer instead of base-installer, perhaps, but it would need some (a lot of) tweaking.
[01:02] <infinity> psusi: Plus, ubiquity also doubles as oem-config, which bare d-i doesn't have an equivalent for.
[01:02] <infinity> psusi: So, while convergence of the installers would be nice, it's non-trivial.
[01:05] <psusi> ahh, didn't know about oem-config... yea.. convergence would be really nice ;)
[01:06] <psusi> especially given some of the long standing and unfixed bugs in ubiquity, such as the fact that whenever grub-install fails, and you get the dialog box asking to pick an alternate location to install it to, any subsequent tries are doomed to failure because /proc, /sys, and /dev have already been unmounted from /target
[01:06] <psusi> and the lack of raid support in ubiquity
[01:07] <psusi> and the lvm support is really sad
[01:08] <cyphermox> psusi: if you have a list of the bugs you feel are important, I can add them to some form of a todo list for me to get to eventually
[01:09] <psusi> probably a good foundation for a discussion on whether to proceed with fixing those bugs, or converge with debian and abandon ubiquity instead.
[01:11] * psusi misses having beer time at face to face UDS
[01:14] <psusi> anyone remember when it was called espesso instead of ubiquity? Christ, how the years do go by...
[04:59] <pitti> Good morning
[04:59] <Unit193> Howdy.
[05:04] <pitti> infinity: did you already talk to mbiebl about http://paste.ubuntu.com/10752817/ ? (I'd rather have his consensus for uploads to jessie)
[06:20] <Mirv> @pilot in
[07:53] <LocutusOfBorg1> good morning developers
[07:57] <seb128> hey LocutusOfBorg1
[08:12] <Laney> @pilot in
[08:31] <zyga> good morning
[08:31] <zyga> vivid still prefers wifi over ethernet today
[08:34] <mgedmin> very modern
[09:09] <flexiondotorg> didrocks, Do you have a moment to help clear to fog in my mind regarding - https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-mate/+bug/1439388
[09:11] <didrocks> flexiondotorg: what fog? did you try to apply the patch yourself?
[09:11] <flexiondotorg> didrocks, I don't understand the remark about translators.txt not being in the patch. translators.txt is the output from a utility script and not intended for packaging. This is why it is missing from the debdiff.
[09:11] <didrocks> not sure how you generated your patch, but it wasn't against upstream ones
[09:12] <didrocks> flexiondotorg: it's in the pathc
[09:12] <didrocks> diff -Nru mate-tweak-3.4.6/translators.txt mate-tweak-3.4.7/translators.txt
[09:12] <didrocks> --- mate-tweak-3.4.6/translators.txt2015-03-10 19:29:50.000000000 +0000
[09:12] <didrocks> +++ mate-tweak-3.4.7/translators.txt2015-04-01 21:01:28.000000000 +0100
[09:12] <didrocks> flexiondotorg: open it and look :p
[09:12] <flexiondotorg> I used dget -u -x to grab the existing package from Ubuntu. I created a new package locally and ran debdiff.
[09:13] <didrocks> flexiondotorg: seems you didn't do that with the upstream tarball you provided, see my remark about the diffs
[09:13] <didrocks> I took the time to list them all on purpose
[09:15] <flexiondotorg> didrocks, Right. No idea how translators.* got in there. I'll re-create the diff.
[09:15] <didrocks> flexiondotorg: translators isn't the only one to be wrong
[09:15] <didrocks> flexiondotorg: so yeah, please always double check :p
[09:16] <didrocks> flexiondotorg: once you have your debdiff, you need to:
[09:16] <didrocks> dpkg-source -x <old_package>
[09:16] <didrocks> wget your tarball, mv tarball_version.orig.tar.gz
[09:16] <didrocks> cd old_package_dir/
[09:16] <didrocks> patch -p1 < /path/to/your/debdiff
[09:16] <didrocks> debuild -S
[09:16] <didrocks> and that should succeed
[09:17] <didrocks> if not, you did something wrong in the generation
[09:18] <Mirv> @pilot out
[09:22] <flexiondotorg> didrocks, Thanks for the explanation. Very helpful.
[09:23] <didrocks> flexiondotorg: yw ;)
[09:58] <Laney> @pilot out
[09:58] <Laney> fail... retry later :(
[10:13] <Odd_Bloke> I'm seeing failures of the CPC image builds on the buildds because cpio is missing; does anyone have any insight in to this issue?
[10:13] <Odd_Bloke> mvo: ogra_: ^ ?
[10:14] <ogra_> Odd_Bloke, i saw a fix for that uploaded somewhere
[10:14] <ogra_> i think slangasek did it
[10:15] <Odd_Bloke> ogra_: We're still seeing the failures at the moment; was the fix in livecd-rootfs, or somewhere else?
[10:15] <ogra_> Odd_Bloke, https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/live-build/3.0~a57-1ubuntu16
[10:16] <Odd_Bloke> Ah, yeah, just got there.
[10:16] <Odd_Bloke> Urgh, looks like we have a version of live-build lying around in our PPA; that'll be the problem.
[10:17] <ogra_> hah, yeah
[10:28] <tseliot> Riddell: switching between GPUs won't work in sddm, as it doesn't restart X on log out. So, for now, you might just want to add an entry with the DisplayCommand line in sddm.conf. No further patches are needed. Just make sure that /etc/X11/default-display-manager comes with sddm. I'll simply update gpu-manager not to exit when dealing with sddm
[10:36] <pitti> hey tseliot, happy birthday!
[10:39] <ogra_> oh !
[10:39] <ogra_> happy birthday tseliot !
[10:39] <tseliot> pitti, ogra_: thanks :)
[10:49] <flexiondotorg> didrocks, Could you give this a once over and let me know if this suitable? https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/mate-menu/+bug/1439380/comments/5
[10:50] <flexiondotorg> didrocks, Test the patch applies cleanly and if this is suitable I'll prepare the other patch in the same fashion.
[10:50] <flexiondotorg> didrocks, *I've tested the patch applies cleanly
[10:50] <didrocks> flexiondotorg: please check with the patch pilot first rathe than direct ping :)
[10:50] <didrocks> rather*
[10:51] <flexiondotorg> didrocks, OK
[10:51] * flexiondotorg waits for a pilot.
[11:02] <shadeslayer> mvo: any news on the rootfs for Kubuntu Plasma 5?
[11:42] <Odd_Bloke> mvo: Any idea who I can poke to get a live-build patch looked at? (Specifically https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/live-build/+bug/1411310)
[11:53] <flexiondotorg> didrocks, I know you said not to ping directly. Sorry. But I've hit a snag. Need some advice, because I'm guessing this is something that has been seen before.
[11:53] <flexiondotorg> https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/mate-tweak/
[11:53] <flexiondotorg> Has a patch accepted into the Ubuntu package.
[11:54] <flexiondotorg> That patch was never shared with upstream (me).
[11:54] <flexiondotorg> I have incorporated the fix upstream and have a new upstream tarball.
[11:55] <flexiondotorg> But creating a debdiff between 3.4.6-0ubuntu2 and the new 3.4.8-0ubuntu1 results in a rejection.
[11:55] <didrocks> hum? what rejection?
[11:55] <flexiondotorg> One sec...
[11:55] <didrocks> you need to remove the patch
[11:55] <didrocks> after unapplying it
[11:55] <flexiondotorg> didrocks, I have.
[11:55] <didrocks> quilt pop -a
[11:55] <didrocks> rm debian/patches/<your_patch>
[11:56] <flexiondotorg> Oh, this is new information :)
[11:56] <didrocks> vim debian/patches/series -> remove your patch
[11:56] <flexiondotorg> didrocks, I don't have any patches. The patch has only ever existed in Ubuntu.
[11:57] <didrocks> 13:53:48 flexiondotorg | Has a patch accepted into the Ubuntu package.
[11:57] <didrocks> this contradicts yourself? ^
[11:58] <flexiondotorg> didrocks, The patch was accepted into Ubuntu. Yes. I didn't not submit it.
[11:58] <flexiondotorg> didrocks, The 'debian' packaging for mate-tweak is maintained in alioth
[11:58] <didrocks> double negation "didn't not submit" -> you did submit?
[11:59] <flexiondotorg> I did not submit the patch to Ubuntu.
[11:59] <didrocks> flexiondotorg: I still don't get what you mean at all, if the patch wasn't in the ubuntu package, why talking about it?
[11:59] <didrocks> and how would it interfere in your update?
[11:59] <flexiondotorg> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/mate-tweak/+bug/1433562
[12:00] <didrocks> so
[12:00] <didrocks> * debian/patches/translationfix.patch: added for fixing a wrong path.
[12:00] <didrocks> (LP: #1433562)
[12:00] <didrocks> you did add the patch
[12:00] <didrocks> right?
[12:00] <flexiondotorg> No.
[12:00] <flexiondotorg> I only saw that bug after it had been uploaded.
[12:01] <didrocks> http://launchpadlibrarian.net/201198800/mate-tweak_3.4.6-0ubuntu1_3.4.6-0ubuntu2.diff.gz
[12:01] <didrocks> -> the patch is in the package
[12:01] <didrocks> so ubuntu has this patch
[12:01] <didrocks> hence, follow what I told above to remove it, before updating ^
[12:02] <Odd_Bloke> mvo: (I just resubmitted our livecd-rootfs MP as well)
[12:04] <flexiondotorg> didrocks, OK. I will follow what you've explained. Thank for helping.
[12:04] <flexiondotorg> didrocks, One last question though.
[12:04] <flexiondotorg> didrocks, I am maintaining the package in Debian and, in general, syncing to Ubuntu.
[12:05] <flexiondotorg> didrocks, Would a syncrequest from Debian (where that Ubuntu patch has never existed) still work?
[12:05] <didrocks> flexiondotorg: sure, just justify why the diff between Debian and Ubuntu can be dropped in the bug report, and we can override the sync request with it
[12:06] <flexiondotorg> didrocks, I'm not going to sync on this occasion. I think it is important I learn all these techniques.
[12:06] <flexiondotorg> didrocks, Also forgive my typos. I have a badly mashed right hand and sometime my text prediction is a little off.
[12:06] <didrocks> flexiondotorg: ah ok, so when you sync request, there is a process to read: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SyncRequestProcess
[12:07] <didrocks> heh, no worry :)
[12:07] <flexiondotorg> didrocks, I'm familiar with the syncrequest process. I've used it quite extensively :)
[12:08] <didrocks> flexiondotorg: see the lines about the diff between Ubuntu and Debian
[12:08] <didrocks> or reread them rather :)
[12:08] <flexiondotorg> didrocks, Will do :)
[12:21] <flexiondotorg> didrocks, I've got this this - dpkg-source: info: you can integrate the local changes with dpkg-source --commit
[12:37] <flexiondotorg> didrocks, I'm clearly missing a step here.
[12:41] <flexiondotorg> didrocks, http://paste.ubuntu.com/10761683/
[12:41] <flexiondotorg> What next?
[12:52] <cyphermox> good morning!
[12:54] <mdeslaur> hi cyphermox!
[13:50] <didrocks> flexiondotorg: well, then, update your package with uupdate as you usually do
[14:48] <wuzhongcheng> i need help
[14:48] <wuzhongcheng> i"m a chinese
[14:48] <wuzhongcheng> now i use puppy 5.7.1
[14:58] <wuzhongcheng> i like ubuntu
[15:00] <flexiondotorg> didrocks, I've never had to use uupdate before. I have just used it yet I am still in the position where I have rejections :(
[15:03] <wuzhongcheng> hoe do you do
[15:03] <wuzhongcheng> how do you do
[15:04] <infinity> pitti: I'd had a long discussion with him on IRC about it, and he was on CC in my response to you afterward and didn't object to the "belt and bracers" approach of implementing both options, but it never hurts to ask again, I suppose.
[15:04] <wuzhongcheng> :)
[15:04] <wuzhongcheng> :)
[15:05] <wuzhongcheng> sorry my english is bad
[15:06] <didrocks> flexiondotorg: seems you need to read some packaging documentation :)
[15:06] <flexiondotorg> didrocks, Well, I am doing :)
[15:07] <flexiondotorg> didrocks, But I have rebuilt the debdiff about 4 different ways now and end up at the same place.
[15:07] <rbasak> hallyn: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/init-system-helpers/+bug/1439988
[15:07] <rbasak> hallyn: this was my mistake that you spotted - s/upstart/upstart-bin/ needed in Breaks/Replaces.
[15:08] <rbasak> hallyn: I guess I'll just upload this fixed?
[15:08] <dobey> wuzhongcheng: i think you are looking for #ubuntu as itis the general help channel
[15:08] <hallyn> rbasak: oh? but after i had said that i checked the pkg again and it actually was coming from upstart, not upstart-bin
[15:09] <dobey> wuzhongcheng: i think there might be another channel for kylin too
[15:10] <hallyn> rbasak: hm. maybe i looked at the upstart version when i was doing that
[15:10] <hallyn> rbasak: yes, please do, thx
[15:10] <hallyn> grrr
[15:10] <hallyn> s/upstart/utopic/
[15:10] <hallyn> !4:s/upstart/utopic
[15:12] <rbasak> hallyn: no, I think you were right.
[15:12] <rbasak> So I'm confused now. I see it present in upstart_1.13.2-0ubuntu10_amd64.deb
[15:12] * rbasak checks 9
[15:12] <hallyn> rbasak: changelog says it got moved, but maybe the changelog lied?
[15:15] <rbasak> hallyn: I also see it in upstart_1.13.2-0ubuntu9_amd64.deb but also in upstart-bin_1.13.2-0ubuntu9_amd64.deb.
[15:15] <rbasak> Only in upstart in ubuntu10.
[15:15] <hallyn> weird
[15:15] <rbasak> Easiest to just declare Breaks/Replaces against both in ubuntu10 I guess.
[15:15] <hallyn> bc debian/upstart.install:debian/apparmor-profile-load lib/init/
[15:15] <hallyn> yeah
[15:16] <rbasak> I'll do it.
[15:16] <hallyn> you'd think ppl would have gotten conflicts between upstart and upstart-bin then
[15:17] <hallyn> rbasak: upstart-bin seems to be an empty package though, and depends on upstart.
[15:17] <rbasak> Indeed. I don't see B/R across ubuntu9 upstart and upstart-bin that is relevant. Yeah - upstart-bin is an empty package now, but it wasn't in ubuntu9.
[15:18] <hallyn> ok so b/r both is safest. thanks
[15:18] <rbasak> Anyway, I'll just fix it in init-system-helpers and not worry about the upstart side of things. That would be a separate temporary bug that is gone now.
[15:20] <hallyn> right - again surprised there were no upgrade bugs due to that
[15:20] <infinity> pitti: To be fair, when talking to him about it, he said he didn't want to do anything without your opinion. You're like two parents who are never home at the same time. :P
[15:25] <infinity> rbasak: You're seeing things, it wasn't in upstart_1.13.2-0ubuntu9_amd64.deb
[15:26] <rbasak> infinity: now I look again and you're right.
[15:27] <rbasak> The fix I uploaded should still be good. I presume having a slightly higher than necessary version for one of the Breaks/Replaces shouldn't matter.
[15:28] <infinity> rbasak: Yeah, it'll be fine. If LP ever gives me a diff.
[15:28] * infinity downloads it from the queue instead.
[15:31] <infinity> rbasak: Minor complaint that (<= 1.13.2-0ubuntu10) is more safely written as (<< 1.13.2-0ubuntu11) in case people are building derivative packages from ours.
[15:31] <infinity> rbasak: But since upstart has moved on to -0ubuntu12 since then, and it's unlikely anyone picked that day to fork, the point's probably moot.
[15:32] <rbasak> infinity: point taken, thanks.
[15:32] * rbasak will amend his ways
[15:46] <hallyn> 15:31 < infinity> rbasak: Minor complaint that (<= 1.13.2-0ubuntu10) is more safely written as (<< 1.13.2-0ubuntu11) in case people are building derivative packages from ours.
[15:46] <hallyn> ah. i've been looking for reasons to go one way or th eother
[15:46] <hallyn> that makes sense
[15:48] <infinity> hallyn: It's not exactly foolproof, as someone could build a 1.13.2-0ubuntu10billy02 that cherrypicks our changes from 11, but it's statistically safer to assume they didn't.
[15:48] <infinity> hallyn: (much like it's statistically safer to assume 1.2.3-3ubuntu1 is similar to 1.2.3-3)
[15:49] <rbasak> Also if they're going to cherry-pick changes from the future then they should get to keep the pieces when it breaks (since nobody else can).
[15:49] <rbasak> cf. it makes sense to make things work by default when there are no related changes
[15:49] * infinity nods.
[15:49] <pitti> infinity: haha; sounds good then :)
[15:50] <hallyn> well, yeah, i am also inconsistent about whether i do 1.13.2-2test1 or 1.13.2-3~test1
[15:50] <hallyn> but both are << 1.13.2-3, so taht's ok
[15:50] <hallyn> i guess
[15:50] <infinity> hallyn: Right.
[15:51] <rbasak> 1.13.2-3~test1 is useful before 1.13.2-3 is published if you want 1.13.2-3~test1 to eventually upgrade to 13.2-3.
[15:51] <rbasak> Say I'm testing something before upload in a PPA for example.
[15:51] <infinity> Both upgrade, though. So, meh.
[15:51] <rbasak> Oh. -*2*. I see.
[15:52] <pitti> infinity: so that change is in vivid-proposed now, FTR
[15:52] <pitti> infinity: I'm just not sure whether we should squeeze it into jessie still
[15:52] <infinity> My personal non-concrete rule for such things is "-2test1" is for a package that is "-2 with a quick patch on top" and "-3~test1" is "the package that will eventually be -3, but not quite ready yet".
[15:52] <infinity> pitti: Well, I intend to file an unblock for the sysvinit upload I did to jessie, unblocking both together would make sense.
[15:53] <hallyn> heh, logical
[15:53] <infinity> pitti: It doesn't catch a lot of extra cases, but it still catches some different cases, so feels reasonable.
[15:53] <pitti> infinity: ack
[15:53] <infinity> pitti: I still would prefer doing it "right" in C, but at least this is provably non-invasive.
[15:55] <Anupkumar> pitti: ping
[15:56] <infinity> pitti: Oh, and I see you (hopefully) fixed your racy tests. \o/
[15:57] <mitya57> cyphermox, hi, can you please take a look at https://code.launchpad.net/~mitya57/network-manager-applet/lp1440009/+merge/255224 ?
[15:58] <mitya57> I understand that it is an ugly hack, but it will be only for this cycle — the patch to solve it properly on our side is quite large to apply it during the final freeze.
[15:59] <cyphermox> isn't there a way to integrate this better into the shell test?
[16:02] * mitya57 looks
[16:02] <rbasak> pitti: could you respond to https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/init-system-helpers/+bug/1436691/comments/19 please? I take it this isn't an issue as the manifest file doesn't reflect what will actually get installed?
[16:03] <rbasak> pitti: the only issues I've seen are on systems I suspect didn't use the normal installer path, which is why I asked for apport-collect. But I don't think that's the case here. It might just be that the user has a heavily customised system.
[16:09] <infinity> rbasak: An upgrade should be pulling in systemd-sysv. If that's not true for ubuntu-gnome, we've messed up somehow.
[16:10] <rbasak> infinity: I don't think we're seeing enough bug reports for that to be the case. The few we're getting are I think users who have heavily modified their systems in some way, where we can't really expect to support the upgrade path.
[16:11] <rbasak> I just want to get the bugs resolved and invalidated where appropriate.
[16:11] <mitya57> cyphermox: Currently nm_shell_watcher thinks that if ShellVersion is not present, then it is gnome-shell but it is not properly initialized. I don't think I want to break that behaviour.
[16:11] <infinity> Right, so #1436956 is clearly a non-standard install, but the sort we were afraid of...
[16:12] <mitya57> cyphermox, So checking the XDG_CURRENT_DESKTOP is the easiest temporary solution.
[16:12] <cyphermox> fair enough
[16:12] <infinity> pitti: What was the reason we decided not to make init Essential, like Debian did?
[16:12] <cyphermox> mitya57: can you upload or do you need sponsoring?
[16:13] <mitya57> I can upload if you ack it
[16:13] <infinity> pitti: It does seem to be biting people on upgrades without -minimal installed, as we feared would be the case.
[16:13] <cyphermox> mitya57: just did :)
[16:13] <mitya57> Thanks!
[16:19] <pitti> Anupkumar: hello
[16:19] <infinity> rbasak: I dunno, I might be in the minority, but I still see this as a real bug. We can jump up and down and say "we don't support systems without ubuntu-minimal installed" all we want, but that doesn't make their upgrades less broken.
[16:19] <infinity> pitti: ^
[16:21] <pitti> rbasak, infinity: "init" should be essential, and pull in either systemd-sysv or upstart-sysv
[16:21] <pitti> ah no, it's "required"
[16:21] <infinity> pitti: Okay, so we just messed up and forgot to mark it Essential?
[16:22] <pitti> maybe for schroots or so, where neither is required; xnox?
[16:22] <infinity> pitti: Sure, neither is actually required in a chroot, but a tiny bit of chroot bloat to make upgrades actually work is a small price to pay (my Debian chroots have init installed).
[16:23] <pitti> infinity: yes, I'm fine with making it essential
[16:24] <pitti> + - init: Drop Essential:yes, in Ubuntu upstart is not essential.
[16:24] <pitti> was the changelog entry
[16:25] <pitti> infinity: fixing race conditions> apparently not hard enough, argh
[16:25] <infinity> pitti: D'oh.
[16:26] <infinity> pitti: Alright, let's try making it Essential again and see if that blows up any of our carefully-orchestrated ubuntu/ubuntu-touch madness.
[16:26] <infinity> It shouldn't, since we never remove "init", only swap its deps.
[16:26] <pitti> infinity: right
[16:26] <infinity> pitti: I'll toss that upload at the archive.
[16:34] <infinity> pitti: Yeah, so, my vague recollection is that we actually intended to make it Essential as part of the systemd switch and just kinda maybe forgot. :P
[16:34] <infinity> pitti: But I'm old, so I could be fabricating memories to make my life more pleasant.
[16:39] <infinity> pitti: I suppose the other gross hack that would sort of work would be to have upstart "Recommends: systemd-sysv | upstart-sysv", but that would also break people who install without recommends (and a Depends would be a lie).
[16:39] <infinity> pitti: So, meh. One wart or the other, we can drop init out of Essential after 16.04, don't really care. upstart was transitively Essential for years too, entirely by accident. :P
[16:52] <teward> is jenkins broken again?
[16:53] <strikov> Hi pitti. We have juju-1.22.0 uploaded to -proposed which passes juju team's QA tests (it can provision trusty and precise) and my manual adt-run against vivid image with upstart installed. It doesn't pass automatic adt-run due to the lack of systemd support. I made decision not to update autotests because we'll be required to revert all these changes back while packaging 1.23. Could you help us to manually move the package to release pocket?
[16:53] <strikov> pitti: Additional information can be found in the bug: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/juju-core/+bug/1416051 Thanks!
[16:56] <infinity> strikov: I thought the whole reason we weren't letting in was because of the lack of systemd support, and we were told that was happening ASAP.
[16:57] <strikov> infinity: that is fixed in 1.23 which is in beta; my plan is to upload 1.22 and start to work on 1.23
[16:57] <strikov> infinity: it usually takes some time because d/copyright is pretty complex for golang package
[16:57] <infinity> strikov: "Start work on" doesn't sound as "ASAP" as we were promised weeks ago. :/
[16:59] <strikov> infinity: well, we can't upload 1.23 until juju team releases it :) i can do *some* licensing checks earlier but we need to wait until the release anyway I think
[16:59] <infinity> strikov: Anyhow, the bug log looks "good enough" for letting it in.
[17:00] <infinity> strikov: But gating on juju upstream to polish off 1.23 rather than backporting/cherrypicking the required bits to support systemd is going to make the release team very grumpy with all of you, given that the release is 2.5 weeks out.
[17:01] <infinity> strikov: Of course, the problem with your tests not passing in any way is also that your deps (like lxc) could break juju completely, and we'll never catch it.
[17:01] <infinity> Well, not until it's too late.
[17:04] <strikov> infinity: adt tests pass when i use vivid image with upstart installed; i may misunderstood your point but i run these tests that way to avoid missing anything which is verified by tests
[17:04] <infinity> strikov: My point is that we re-run the tests automatically when your dependencies change.
[17:04] <infinity> strikov: You miss out on the benefit of that when your tests can't be run automatically.
[17:05] <strikov> infinity: Ah, that's a good point. I agree. The only argument I have is that I plan to upload 1.23 very soon. it won't have systemd issue.
[17:11] <teward> hey infinity, do you have access to see whether a job that jenkins emailed me about actually exists?
[17:12] <infinity> teward: Maybe.
[17:13] <infinity> teward: Depends on the job, I suppose. :P
[17:15] <infinity> pitti: So, making init essential plumps up my chroots by ~20-30 MB (depending on arch) after I'd just cleaned them out to make them init system free, but I don't think that's world-ending.
[17:15] <infinity> Besides, chubby chroot is pleasantly alliterative.
[17:16] <teward> infinity: well jenkins mailed me on a failure at https://jenkins.qa.ubuntu.com/job/vivid-adt-nginx/47 but I get 404s.
[17:17] <infinity> teward: Ahh, the public mirror seems to be a bit behind reality.
[17:17] <infinity> teward: 47 exists and did indeed fail, and 48 is in progress as a retry.
[17:18] <infinity> And I completely forget who's in charge of the public mirror bits.
[17:18] <teward> mmm
[17:18] <teward> infinity: ok. i don't have the private access so i have no idea what's up with the failures, if anything.
[17:19] <teward> kinda curious every time i see those emails xD
[17:19] <infinity> Ugh. The failure was not yours, if that's comforting.
[17:19] <teward> that's a positive.
[17:19] <teward> 'tis all i really worried about :0
[17:19] <teward> :) *
[17:20] <infinity> I'm less enthused.
[17:20] <teward> mmm
[17:20] <teward> well i'm more comforted, but still curious, alas that's my nature :P
[17:22] <infinity> mvo: test-apt-download-progress really, really, really doesn't like you.
[17:24] <infinity> teward: Not sure what it was that broke your tests, actually. It smells like an apt bug, but on a retry it was fine, so maybe just a weird archive inconsistency...
[17:24] <teward> infinity: i've had nondeterministic failures in nginx builds too, so i'm used to seeing that every once in a while.
[17:25] <teward> infinity: if it failed twice i'd be more concerned, but one fail and one complete on retry makes me even less concerned
[17:25] <infinity> teward: Yeah. Well, any failures concern me, because it's hard to have a stable baseline to compare to when none of the tests (or the infrastructure) are stable. Getting there, though. Slowly.
[17:39] <pitti> strikov: yes, I already unblock packages which are held up by the failing juju
[17:40] <pitti> strikov: why would you need to revert the changes? I thought you wanted to update the tests so that they work on any relese?
[17:40] <pitti> infinity: sounds ok to me, especially as we can revert it in 16.10 if we care
[17:40] <strikov> pitti: they will work w/o any changes at all :) on trusty they will test upstart (because it's default init there), on vivid they will test systemd
[17:43] <strikov> pitti: i had an idea to test both systemd and upstart on vivid but came to conclusion that it's not needed
[17:44] <strikov> pitti: because it leads to some corner cases when host runs vivid/upstart but juju-local lxc container runs vivid/systemd
[17:44] <strikov> pitti: and i came to conclusion that simplest option is the best one
[17:45] <infinity> strikov: FWIW, I already (grudgingly) let it in.
[17:45] <pitti> strikov: ack
[17:45] <infinity> strikov: But please push your upstream to get us 1.23 ASAP, like actually ASAP, and if you can work on the packaging from their current trunk, rather than waiting for the code to drop, that would be great too.
[17:48] <strikov> infinity: pitti: thanks; i'll start looking into 1.23 tomorrow morning; will be using what i have for now
[17:49] <pitti> strikov: yay
[18:04] <mdeslaur> cyphermox: can you take a look at my debdiff in bug 1440166 when you get a minute?
[18:05] <infinity> pitti: FWIW, the occasional apt failures on systemd-sysv/systemd are probably because of the Pre-Depends, which should just be a Depends.
[18:05] <infinity> pitti: Not that that isn't an apt ordering bug (it is), but making apt's life less painful there might be nice. Unless systemd-sysv actually has a preinst that requires systemd.
[18:06] <infinity> pitti: Which it doesn't.
[18:09] <infinity> mbiebl: Was there a reason why systemd-sysv Pre-Depends on systemd instead of just Depends, or just an oops/misunderstanding of how dpkg deps work?
[18:11] <teward> infinity: indeed. i can understand that
[18:14] <infinity> Ahh, eww.
[18:14] <infinity> * Add Pre-Depends on systemd to systemd-sysv, to avoid risking that the
[18:14] <infinity> sysv-compatible symlinks become dangling on a partial install.
[18:17] <stormbrew-> infinity: I was told to bring this up with you (or doko? Who doesn't appear to be in here right now): There's a pretty severe bug in the libstdc++6 version 5 package in ubuntu-toolchain-r/test where std::error_codes are all comparing unequal: https://gist.github.com/stormbrew/e877b39aa060f19f16dc
[18:18] <stormbrew-> (told by ogra_ in the #ubuntu-bugs channel)
[18:19] <infinity> stormbrew-: Probably best to file a bug upstream or email doko, or both.
[18:28] <infinity> stormbrew-: FWIW, it looks like it's an ABI break. If you recompile with g++-5 from the same PPA, it returns 0 as you expect, it's only compiling with 4.9 and running with 5.0 that breaks.
[18:29] <infinity> stormbrew-: But, yeah, I'd take that knowledge and file an upstream bug report and email doko about it before he decides to unleash that compiler on the world.
[18:30] <infinity> stormbrew-: Upstream's answer might be "sucks to be you, we warned you that -std=c++11 was experimental", but still worth reporting.
[18:36] <stormbrew-> ah, interesting. That's good to know. I'll do that as soon as I have the cycles for it, thanks.
[19:20] <cyphermox> mdeslaur: yup
[19:21] <cyphermox> mitya57: did you already upload your gnome flashback fix?
[19:21] <mdeslaur> cyphermox: cool, thanks!
[19:21] <cyphermox> nevermind, I see it was
[20:20] <mvo> infinity: meh, is that test still failing?
[20:27] <hallyn> ok, systemd continues to confound me:
[20:27] <hallyn> ubuntu@lv1:~/new$ sudo systemctl stop libvirt-bin
[20:27] <hallyn> ubuntu@lv1:~/new$ ps -ef | grep libvirt
[20:27] <hallyn> ubuntu 19003 908 0 16:26 pts/1 00:00:00 grep --color=auto libvirt
[20:27] <hallyn> root 25509 1 0 15:58 ? 00:00:00 /usr/sbin/libvirtd -d
[20:27] <hallyn> systemctl stop doesn't seem to work
[20:29] <hallyn> oh, bc systemd thinks that /etc/init.d/libvirt-bin stop is the way to stop it
[20:30] <hallyn> pitti: ^ i guess we really do need a systemd unit for libvirt, or at least a aysvinit script back, bc the current way really is broken
[20:33] <mbiebl> hallyn: http://paste.debian.net/165569/
[20:33] <mbiebl> the sysv init script and the service file should have the same name
[20:34] <mbiebl> or if they use different names, provide a symlink
[20:35] <mbiebl> which package does provide /etc/init.d/libvirt-bin?
[20:35] <mbiebl> is that an obsolete conffile?
[20:38] <dobey> mbiebl: dpkg -S tells you what installed package owns it, if any
[20:38] <mbiebl> dobey: I do know that
[20:39] <mbiebl> (I do run Debian here, which doesn't ship /etc/init.d/libvirt-bin)
[20:39] <Unit193> !find /etc/init.d/libvirt-bin vivid
[20:39] <Unit193> !find /etc/init.d/libvirt-bin vivid
[20:47] <infinity> mvo: It sure it.
[20:47] <infinity> mvo: is...
[20:47] <hallyn> mbiebl: hm, i was thinking that /etc/init.d/libvirt-bin was a wrpaper around the /etc/init/libvirt-bin (as it used to be at one point),
[20:48] <hallyn> still i think it's better to provide a proper systemd unit for it than to figure out why the sysv script isn't working under systemd :)
[20:54] <infinity> hallyn: Stopping works for me...
[20:55] <hallyn> infinity: ok, good to know - must be something i've got locally then, thanks
[20:55] <infinity> hallyn: http://paste.ubuntu.com/10766403/
[20:57] <hallyn> infinity: i have no clue what's going on then, but on this instance it's 100% reproducible that libvirt doesn't die, and after the fact, systemctl status libvirt-bin shows:
[20:57] <hallyn> Process: 20817 ExecStop=/etc/init.d/libvirt-bin stop (code=exited, status=0/SUCCESS)
[20:58] <hallyn> oh COME ON
[20:58] <hallyn> now its gone away
|
ubuntu-chat
|
2024-05-13T22:11:16.201948
| 2015-04-07T00:00:00 |
{
"license": "Public Domain",
"authors": [
"Anupkumar",
"Laney",
"LocutusOfBorg1",
"Mirv",
"Odd_Bloke",
"Unit193",
"cyphermox",
"didrocks",
"dobey",
"flexiondotorg",
"hallyn",
"infinity",
"mbiebl",
"mdeslaur",
"mgedmin",
"mitya57",
"mvo",
"ogra_",
"pitti",
"psusi",
"rbasak",
"seb128",
"shadeslayer",
"stormbrew-",
"strikov",
"teward",
"tseliot",
"wuzhongcheng",
"zyga"
],
"url": "https://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2015/04/07/%23ubuntu-devel.txt",
"channel": "#ubuntu-devel"
}
|
2015-04-07-#ubuntu-installer
|
[15:17] <flexiondotorg> cyphermox, I'm trying to integrate oem-config into the Ubuntu MATE 15.04 for Raspberry Pi 2.
[15:17] <flexiondotorg> cyphermox, The idea is the first time the image is booted it takes you through oem-config to setup the system.
[15:19] <cyphermox> shouldn't oem-config do just that? You mean you want it to run without having to start oem-config-prepare beforehand?
[15:20] <flexiondotorg> cyphermox, I am installaing oem-config-gtk and ubiquity-frontend-gtk in the image and creating /var/lib/oem-config/run
[15:21] <flexiondotorg> cyphermox, Yes. Want to have oem-config in a prepared state.
[15:21] <flexiondotorg> cyphermox, Just seen the most recent commits.
[15:22] <cyphermox> aye
[15:22] <flexiondotorg> cyphermox, Looks like I need '/bin/systemctl set-default oem-config.target' rather than 'touch /var/lib/oem-config/run' now
[15:22] <cyphermox> yes
[15:22] <flexiondotorg> cyphermox, Do I need to create the oem user?
[15:22] <cyphermox> or just set /lib/systemd/system/default.target to be a symlink to oem-config.target
[15:22] <cyphermox> no, you probably don't need it in that case
[15:22] <flexiondotorg> cyphermox, Thanks for the tips.
|
ubuntu-chat
|
2024-05-13T22:11:16.207084
| 2015-04-07T00:00:00 |
{
"license": "Public Domain",
"authors": [
"cyphermox",
"flexiondotorg"
],
"url": "https://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2015/04/07/%23ubuntu-installer.txt",
"channel": "#ubuntu-installer"
}
|
2015-04-07-#ubuntu-ops
|
how can I delete all the *.exe files in my file system
[12:38] <bazhang> the virus he got is called sys32
[12:38] <bazhang> sounds dangerous
[19:39] <ikonia> @mark #ubuntu obre someone using linux.org.uk domain to evade bans and be abusive - worth reporting to Alan Cox
[19:39] <Unit193> [email protected] account: username:Ian Chilton is also affected.
[19:40] <ikonia> In Chilton is a good guy
[19:40] <ikonia> IIan
[19:40] <ikonia> Ian ...
[19:40] <ikonia> I'll contact Ian
[19:42] <Unit193> You can put a temp exempt on his account, if he logs in.
[19:42] <Unit193> Ah, there.
[19:42] <ikonia> already done
[19:44] <ikonia> it seems the criteria for getting a linux.org.uk or openssl.org account is to be a troll
[19:45] <ikonia> ahh it's a fake openssl domain
[19:47] <phunyguy> ikonia: just for my own curiosity... what is a "fake openssl domain"? Never heard of that before.
[19:47] <ikonia> it's not openssl.org - its openopenssl.org
[19:47] <ikonia> eg: fake domain
[19:48] <phunyguy> DOH. Missed the openssl.org piece of your previous comment. Don't mind me. Got issues over here.
[19:49] <ikonia> I missed it first time I read it
[19:49] <phunyguy> I was trying to piece together how linux.org.uk and openssl tied together
[21:47] <IdleOne> * IdleOne sets ban on *!*@aim.engr.arizona.edu
[21:47] <IdleOne> ban will be removed in 1 hour
[21:48] <IdleOne> make that 1 minute
[23:32] <valorie> ewww
[23:32] <Unit193> Yeeep.
[23:32] <genii> Hm
[23:32] <k1l> hmm
[23:33] <k1l> could be a lagging freenode too :)
[23:33] <genii> nah it's all .ur .ru etc
[23:33] <genii> .ua rather
[23:50] <k1l> i banned the botnet hosts for 4w with comments in the bantracker
|
ubuntu-chat
|
2024-05-13T22:11:16.210871
| 2015-04-07T00:00:00 |
{
"license": "Public Domain",
"authors": [
"IdleOne",
"Unit193",
"bazhang",
"genii",
"ikonia",
"k1l",
"phunyguy",
"valorie"
],
"url": "https://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2015/04/07/%23ubuntu-ops.txt",
"channel": "#ubuntu-ops"
}
|
2015-04-07-#ubuntu-us-oh
|
[15:46] <Unit193> paultag: http://imgur.com/gallery/XKr67
[15:46] <jenni> [ A Murder of Crows - Album on Imgur ] - https://j.mp/1y19D5E
[15:52] <paultag> Hah yeah I saw that on reddit this morning
[15:52] <paultag> r/badjoke
[15:52] <paultag> s
[17:04] <dzho> ohhhh, got me
[17:04] <dzho> I was all "yay Mass Turnpike ornithologist, you go!"
[17:05] * dzho is now sad, thinking about the dead crows
[18:11] <jrgifford> lol
[18:11] <jrgifford> :(
|
ubuntu-chat
|
2024-05-13T22:11:16.212901
| 2015-04-07T00:00:00 |
{
"license": "Public Domain",
"authors": [
"Unit193",
"dzho",
"jenni",
"jrgifford",
"paultag"
],
"url": "https://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2015/04/07/%23ubuntu-us-oh.txt",
"channel": "#ubuntu-us-oh"
}
|
2015-04-07-#bzr
|
[07:38] <fullermd> nopf: Check out the bookmarks plugin
|
ubuntu-chat
|
2024-05-13T22:11:16.214935
| 2015-04-07T00:00:00 |
{
"license": "Public Domain",
"authors": [
"fullermd"
],
"url": "https://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2015/04/07/%23bzr.txt",
"channel": "#bzr"
}
|
2015-04-07-#ubuntu-cm
|
[06:53] <ariabbas> .
[08:24] <saoungoumi> .
[10:24] <ariabbas> .
[17:32] <coco1> http://degooglisons-internet.org/
|
ubuntu-chat
|
2024-05-13T22:11:16.218658
| 2015-04-07T00:00:00 |
{
"license": "Public Domain",
"authors": [
"ariabbas",
"coco1",
"saoungoumi"
],
"url": "https://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2015/04/07/%23ubuntu-cm.txt",
"channel": "#ubuntu-cm"
}
|
Subsets and Splits
No community queries yet
The top public SQL queries from the community will appear here once available.