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2015-04-07-#launchpad
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[15:17] <thegrreat> Helo guys
[15:17] <thegrreat> Hello *
[15:20] <thegrreat> test
[15:20] <thegrreat> SO what's going on ?
[16:35] <KaZeR> hi there
[16:37] <KaZeR> can someone please help me with my translation-upload-from-script-returns-an-error-500 issue ?
[16:43] <dobey> KaZeR: do you get the same result if you try to use the same page and form, directly within the browser?
[16:43] <KaZeR> dobey: no from the browser it works
[16:45] <dobey> that's firefox?
[16:45] <KaZeR> or chrome
[16:46] <dobey> KaZeR: tried pointing the script at the firefox cookies.sqlite? i'm betting the cookie inside the cookies.sqlite you're using is probably expired. it probably shouldn't give a 500 in that case, but that may be the problem
[16:46] <KaZeR> interesting. let me double check
[16:55] <dobey> KaZeR: was that the issue?
[17:06] <KaZeR> dobey: unfortunately, no : 2015-04-07 10:08:20,379 ERROR Template upload failed (error 500, URL https://translations.launchpad.net/navit/trunk/+pots/navit/+upload)
[17:06] <dobey> hmm
[17:07] <dobey> well, worth a guess anyway :)
[17:07] <KaZeR> yep definitely
[17:07] <KaZeR> thanks
[21:49] <olly> is there a reason why the links in emails for translation downloads use http://launchpadlibrarian.net/ ? https://launchpadlibrarian.net/ seems to work, and there's potential for an attacker to substitute translations with deliberate C format string vulnerabilities
[23:03] <Logan> olly: what does that have to do with the secure connection?
[23:03] <Logan> although I agree that the links should be HTTPS
[23:04] <wgrant> Those links are actually unsecured because people complained in like 2007 that HTTPS was slow.
[23:04] <olly> well, if it's http, it's not hard to intercept the connection in many situations
[23:04] <wgrant> olly: Feel free to file a bug about that.
[23:05] <wgrant> We're less likely to get backlash for security now.
[23:05] <olly> i think the world has changed in those 8 years
[23:05] <olly> wgrant: what against? "launchpad itself"?
[23:05] <wgrant> olly: Yep, https://launchpad.net/launchpad/+filebug
[23:05] <wgrant> It wasn't too many years ago that everyone was saying HTTPS for even the webapp was excessive :/
[23:06] <teward> wgrant: couldn't it be forced webserver side to push the HTTP to HTTPS automatically?
[23:06] <wgrant> teward: There's no point doing that at all.
[23:06] <olly> anyone intercepting the http connection could redirect it instead
[23:06] <wgrant> The attacker can just MITM the HTTP connection and remove the redirect.
[23:06] <teward> wgrant: true, but it's one option :P
[23:07] <teward> (disabling HTTP also works, and requiring HTTPS but there'll be complainers there too)
[23:07] <olly> or redirect it to https://1aunchpad1ibrarian.net/
[23:07] <teward> (this is one of the catch-22s in website operations)
[23:07] <wgrant> We're unlikely to redirect the entire domain.
[23:07] <wgrant> Bust most generated links to it are HTTPS nowadays.
[23:07] <wgrant> Just a few stragglers.
[23:08] <olly> wgrant: no, I mean an attacker could redirect it to a "lookalike" URL like that (ones instead of Ls there)
[23:09] <wgrant> Oh, right, misinterpreted the context.
[23:10] <olly> BTW, is there a reason why it emails a link rather than just allowing you to download from launchpad?
[23:12] <wgrant> olly: It takes some time to export all of the files, so it needs to be asynchronous. So it needs to generate an email, so that email might as well contain the link.
[23:47] <upsideout> is there a api or something that I caqn use to tie back to wannna build ?
[23:47] <upsideout> thanks for your time
[23:48] <upsideout> some way of filling my local wanna build server from launchpad
[23:48] <upsideout> in the postgre data base ?
[23:49] <upsideout> wgrant, ping
[23:49] <wgrant> upsideout: Can you explain your situation more fully?
[23:49] <upsideout> when you are free . I will lurk
[23:50] <upsideout> wow
[23:50] <upsideout> awesome
[23:50] <upsideout> so I have a auto build network
[23:50] <upsideout> debian style
[23:50] <upsideout> I want to fill my wanna build data base some how from launcpad
[23:51] <upsideout> from a ppa and what not so that I do not need to use docker or LXC to make ppa work on system (testing)
[23:51] <upsideout> wgrant, you do hangouts ?
[23:52] <upsideout> wgrant, give me ten minutes and I will make a google drive drawing and share
[23:52] <wgrant> upsideout: Why do you need to do these builds outside Launchpad?
[23:52] <wgrant> upsideout: But you could fill the wanna-build database from the PPA's Sources files, surely.
[23:57] <exobuzz> I have a deb on launchpad that won't delete. I deleted it a few months ago, but it still is there. Nothing is referencing it as I can see, but it wont get remove (it doesn't show up in the launchpad gui)
[23:57] <exobuzz> this is the archive http://ppa.launchpad.net/jools/emgd-xorg1.9/ubuntu/pool/main/libe/libegl1-mesa/libegl1-mesa_10.1.3-0ubuntu0.3_all.deb
[23:58] <upsideout> wgrant, http://i.imgur.com/wjburrm.png
[23:59] <upsideout> wgrant, like into the postgre of wanna build somehow from launch pad
[23:59] <exobuzz> Is there anything I can do to remove this file, or is there anything anyone can do to help ?
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2015-04-07-#kubuntu
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[00:01] <ahoneybun> ericokl: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/VividVervet/ReleaseSchedule
[01:30] <invaderrrrzim> hello! my kubuntu 14.10 plasma5 just crashed plasmashell and now the desktop is gone, rebooting loggin in gives an empty black background with a grey bottom bar. Am lost.
[03:39] <madlux> Kubuntu 15.04 still have many bugs ?
[08:23] <lordievader> Good morning.
[09:01] <robotdevil> where do I find a list of applications included with each distro, mainly version numbers. I just the programs that would be in the kmenu
[09:34] <DragonSpirit> hello
[09:34] <soee> Good morning DragonSpirit
[09:35] <DragonSpirit> Thanks, I am looking for an old old friend
[09:35] <soee> :)
[09:35] <DragonSpirit> Been forever since I'd been on this irc server
[09:35] <DragonSpirit> anyone know Hawkwind?
[09:36] <s_20> nickserv does. and he just told me that this individual was last seen on freenode 25 weeks ago.
[09:36] <DragonSpirit> wow guess he isn't around anymore
[09:36] <s_20> well he has been 25 weeks ago. ;)
[09:38] <s_20> apparently freenode has memoserv, so you could try to leave a message that way
[09:38] <soee> DragonSpirit: google find this https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-irc/2006-November/000110.html
[09:38] <DragonSpirit> Thank you kindly
[09:38] <soee> so to this nick you have name: Cliff Wade (Hawkwind)
[09:39] <DragonSpirit> you've been great thanks, I know its not a technical question, but the communities on here have always been great even years back when I used to come here
[09:40] <soee> DragonSpirit: https://twitter.com/cliffwade
[09:40] <s_20> "#Techie #Geek #TeamAndroid #OpenSource" sounds about right
[09:41] <DragonSpirit> yeah thats him for sure, I know the name
[09:41] <DragonSpirit> Ha awesome, its been like.... over 5 years
[12:12] <BluesKaj> Hiyas all
[13:07] <robotdevil> so alt f1 doesnt open kmenu anymore?
[13:11] <BluesKaj> robotdevil, it does here on 15.04
[13:15] <robotdevil> weird
[13:16] <robotdevil> 14.04 fresh install doesnt work
[13:16] <robotdevil> clt alt f1 goes to tty1 thou
[13:17] <BluesKaj> robotdevil, have you updated,upgraded and dist-upgraded since the install ?
[13:17] <robotdevil> yes
[13:18] <robotdevil> upto date for 14.04.02 I guess
[13:18] <robotdevil> media keys and stuff works
[14:42] <s_20> this may be the wrong channel to ask this, but does anyone know whether krusader is actually getting a port to kde frameworks 5.x?
[14:42] <s_20> seems like there was quite a bit of activity recently after a long dry spell
[14:46] <s_20> i thought about giving it another try, but seeing as there'll be a switch to plasma 5 soon anyway, there wouldn't be much of a point if it's about to get virtually abandoned anyway
[14:46] <BluesKaj> s_20, dunno for sure, but I'm running 15.04 aith plsama 5 as default and krusader is available in the repos, altho the dependency list doesn't mention KF5
[14:47] <BluesKaj> alth = with
[14:48] <BluesKaj> the dependency list for krusader in muon that is
[14:48] <s_20> BluesKaj: looks like it is exactly the same package as in 14.10
[14:48] <s_20> same version string anyway
[14:50] <BluesKaj> ok , a lot of kde4 stuff is still not ported to plasma 5 yet and may not be , even after 15.04 is official
[14:51] <BluesKaj> kde5 is not even close to being a testable desktop apparently
[14:53] <lordievader> s_20: http://developer.kde.org/~cfeck/portingstatus.html
[14:56] <s_20> lordievader: so it's WIP, thank you!
[14:57] <lordievader> s_20: ;)
[16:41] <fcomtois> hey guys
[16:42] <fcomtois> I have some issues installing Kubuntu 15.04 beta 2
[16:42] <fcomtois> it keeps on hanging
[16:42] <fcomtois> during the install I mean
[16:47] <BluesKaj> fcomtois, did you do an md5sum check on the iso before installing ?
[16:47] <fcomtois> yeah
[16:47] <fcomtois> BluesKaj: yes
[16:47] <fcomtois> BluesKaj: also tried with the latest daily build
[16:48] <BluesKaj> are you on the live-media now , fcomtois?
[16:49] <fcomtois> BluesKaj: it crashes whenever I try to install
[16:49] <fcomtois> BluesKaj: I am on my laptop right now
[16:49] <fcomtois> Kubuntu works fine on my X200
[16:50] <BluesKaj> is said pc less then 5 yrs old ?
[16:50] <fcomtois> BluesKaj: yes
[16:50] <fcomtois> Ivy Bridge CPU
[16:50] <fcomtois> Nvidia Ti550
[16:50] <BluesKaj> could be the UEFI/BIOS problem
[16:50] <fcomtois> I got that warning when installing
[16:50] <BluesKaj> !uefi
[16:54] <fcomtois> BluesKaj: thanks, let me give it a shot
[16:55] <BluesKaj> fcomtois, if all else fails , come back and we can do the legacy install as a last resort , unless you want to keep windows 8 or some such
[16:56] <fcomtois> BluesKaj: LTS works fine
[16:56] <fcomtois> BluesKaj: not my first rodeo :)
[16:56] <fcomtois> BluesKaj: but your offer is well appreciated
[16:57] <BluesKaj> yes, but uefi can be a tricky procedure , a deliberate shot at linux and mac by microsoft
[16:57] <fcomtois> BluesKaj: yeah
[16:57] <fcomtois> it wasnt an issue before
[16:58] <fcomtois> but it's strange the issues I have been experiencing with 15.04
[16:59] <genii> Whenever there's a big change under the hood there will be hiccups for a while afterwards.
[16:59] <fcomtois> yeah I reckon
[16:59] * genii thinks about the KDE 3.x to 4 jump and shudders
[17:00] <fcomtois> yeah, actually I hadnt used KDE since KDE3
[17:01] <fcomtois> KDE5 is actually pretty good from my POV
[17:02] <BluesKaj> yeah genii , I recall ..was just getting used to kde3 and I hated dolphin at first and still can't stand pulseaudio altho i have to use it with this soundcard
[17:03] <fcomtois> KDE 5 is a good improvement
[17:03] <BluesKaj> plasma5 and KF5 are still a bit "off" and some of my fav features a re gone
[17:04] <fcomtois> BluesKaj: by the way, the url you gave me earlier worked
[17:04] <fcomtois> I disabled Intel Smart connect
[17:04] <fcomtois> and now seems to be installing fine
[17:04] <fcomtois> BluesKaj: which feature was removed?
[17:04] <BluesKaj> fcomtois, good , some find those insrtuctions confusing
[17:05] <BluesKaj> different backgrounds for Virtual desktops for one
[17:05] <fcomtois> oh
[17:06] <fcomtois> BluesKaj: do you know how to mount AFP shares with Dolphin ?
[17:06] <fcomtois> it works fine on Nautilus
[17:06] <BluesKaj> no drop down of previopus entries in krunner
[17:06] <fcomtois> but not on Dolphin
[17:09] <BluesKaj> mac files ?
[17:09] <fcomtois> yeah
[17:10] <fcomtois> my firm still runs on older xserve servers
[17:10] <fcomtois> I think the file sharing is on snow leopard
[17:14] <BluesKaj> fcomtois, did you try add a network folder in dolphin networking
[17:15] <fcomtois> no, I have not, but I just tried to click on the folder
[17:15] <fcomtois> BluesKaj: by the way, the system installed without any problem, but now it hangs ever logging in
[17:16] <Roberth1990> does 15.04 use kde applications 14.12?
[17:16] <BluesKaj> fcomtois, ok, can you get to a tty/vt ?
[17:16] <fcomtois> no
[17:16] <fcomtois> BluesKaj: completely hangs
[17:17] <Roberth1990> fcomtois: was that to my question?
[17:17] <fcomtois> Roberth1990: sorry no, it was in reply to BluesKaj
[17:17] <BluesKaj> bummer , then try the recovery kernel fcomtois
[17:18] <fcomtois> BluesKaj: I can get a TTY if I don't log into SSDM
[17:18] <fcomtois> I am doing a dist-upgrade now
[17:19] <BluesKaj> Roberth1990, plasma 5/KF5 is the default desktop in 15.04 , but some plsama 4 libs are still used
[17:19] <fcomtois> so odd, because it worked flawlessly in the past
[17:19] <fcomtois> BluesKaj: I love my X200 because of that, it just works
[17:20] <BluesKaj> yeah, it's a new bug , about 3days old
[17:20] <BluesKaj> x200?
[17:20] <fcomtois> Thinkpad
[17:20] <BluesKaj> ok
[17:21] <fcomtois> BluesKaj: just out of curiosity, how old are you? hope you do not mind me asking
[17:22] <MoonUnit`> O.o
[17:22] <BluesKaj> I have a lenovo g500 and it's a great laptop , althjo I did wipe it clean of w8.1 and all the crazy partitions that it came with and installed W7 and Kubuntu in legacy mode
[17:24] <BluesKaj> fcomtois, I'm old , I'm 71, why do you ask?
[17:25] <fcomtois> BluesKaj: awesome, just curious :)
[17:25] <fcomtois> BluesKaj: where do you hail from ?
[17:27] <BluesKaj> fcomtois, Canada, about 400Km North of Toronto
[17:27] <fcomtois> BluesKaj: I am from Montreal, but live in Hong Kong
[17:27] <BluesKaj> fcomtois, you're in Hong Kong
[17:28] <BluesKaj> cool :)
[17:29] <fcomtois> fcomtois: yeah I practice law here
[17:30] <BluesKaj> must know the language there then ...my son's wife is from Macau , he met her in Taipei
[17:32] <fcomtois> BluesKaj: not as well as I should
[17:33] <fcomtois> BluesKaj: I installed the nvidia driver over the command line and it appears to have fixed the issue
[17:34] <BluesKaj> fcomtois, which nvidia gpu , I have a 8400gs and it uses the nvidia-340 driver and seems fine so far on 15.04
[17:34] <fcomtois> ti 550
[17:35] <fcomtois> I think the issue was with nouveua
[17:35] <fcomtois> *nouveau
[17:35] <fcomtois> because I am on 340 now
[17:35] <BluesKaj> ok , nice card
[17:35] <fcomtois> it works fine
[17:36] <BluesKaj> yeah , the 346 wouldn't work with my entry-level pci , but the 340 does the job
[17:36] <fcomtois> I really love Plasma 5
[17:36] <BluesKaj> so did you re-enable sddm?
[17:36] <fcomtois> probably my favourite DE
[17:37] <fcomtois> with i3 as a close 2nd
[17:38] <BluesKaj> yeah, I've heard good things about i3 in a workplace environment
[17:45] <Drakenex> Hi
[17:45] <Drakenex> D:
[17:45] <Drakenex> are you there ?
[17:46] <BluesKaj> Drakenex, ask your question
[18:42] <spanston> Hey Kubuntu fan and users, I'm in need of help to install redshift. Can anyone please help me?
[18:43] <genii> !info redshift
[18:44] <BluesKaj> spanston, it's in the repos/package manager
[18:44] <genii> spanston: It's in the Universe repository, if you add that repo in Muon you will be able to install it
[18:45] <spanston> Thanks for the answers, will try to do that.
[18:47] <spanston> Awesome, thanks for the help. This software is an eye saver!
[18:55] <spanston> Hey guys, I got a little problem with the software Redsifht. I just managed to install in from the software center. But when I try to run it, it doesn't work. Only shows that it's about to start but then disappears. I'm using the 15.04 beta, can that be the cause?
[18:59] <pc21> hola
[18:59] <pc21> hola
[18:59] <pc21> hola
[18:59] <pc21> hola
[18:59] <pc21> hola
[18:59] <pc21> hola
[18:59] <pc21> ol
[18:59] <unopaste> pc21 you have been muted for 60 seconds as it looks like you are pasting lots of lines into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com and paste just the URL of your data here when you are unmuted
[19:00] <genii> spanston: It's entirely possible. But for Vivid questions you should use the #ubuntu+1 channel for questions, since it's not in official release yet
[19:01] <spanston> That's sad, this beta version is perfect except that redshift doesn't work
[19:01] <spanston> will try there as well then
[19:54] <MoonUnit`> just installed redshift, works for me.
[19:57] <genii> here too
[20:02] <genii> MoonUnit`: I'm on 14.10 though, not 15.04 ... what are you using?
[20:02] <MoonUnit`> 15.04
[20:14] <alesan> hello
[20:14] <alesan> I am trying to conect to a cisco anyconnect vpn
[20:14] <alesan> any advice on what to do? everything I've done faied so far
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2015-04-07-#ubuntu-za
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[04:31] <Kilos> morning all.
[04:45] <Kilos> hi Tonberry
[04:45] <Tonberry> hi
[05:43] <inetpro> good mornings
[05:44] <Kilos> morning inetpro thats good
[05:44] <Kilos> it will rain when you have the time right
[05:44] <inetpro> lol
[05:46] <Kilos> ek bly man, my korea kontak het sy loco aan die gang
[05:46] <Kilos> if only africa was as easy
[05:51] <Symmetria> my god
[05:51] <Symmetria> CNN is as bad as fox news
[05:51] <Symmetria> https://scontent-lhr.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xft1/v/t1.0-9/11026039_10153318786825528_8549034136874744109_n.jpg?oh=875b355b58daa9ba7f3db0941aea5552&oe=55BB8673
[05:51] <Symmetria> what do you notice about that map
[06:01] <ThatGraemeGuy> nothing sells like sensationalism
[06:02] <Kilos> hi ThatGraemeGuy
[06:02] <ThatGraemeGuy> Symmetria: is all the hubbub over there affecting you much?
[06:02] <ThatGraemeGuy> 'lo Kilos :)
[06:02] <Symmetria> ThatGraemeGuy they have tightened security in Nairobi, heavily
[06:03] <Symmetria> which is a good thing I suppose
[06:03] <Symmetria> *shrug* it makes certain things slightly more difficult but nothing 2 bad
[06:03] <ThatGraemeGuy> k
[06:03] <Symmetria> (for example, I went to the shopping centre near my house on Saturday and the defense force was searching every car coming in)
[06:03] <ThatGraemeGuy> I know the media tends to blow things up a little
[06:04] <ThatGraemeGuy> make it sound like you need to GTFO right now
[06:04] <Symmetria> *shrug* Nairobi is perfectly safe if you stay outta eastleigh (which is basically little somalia)
[06:05] <ThatGraemeGuy> so pretty much same as here. some shitty areas, some shitty people, but the media would have you believe the whole place is a warzone
[06:31] <ThatGraemeGuy> anyone know which shops sell ADSL filters? think mine is on the blink
[06:43] <Symmetria> incredible corruption
[06:49] <Symmetria> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ABADuZxfruk <[06:50] <Kilos> hi barrydk
[06:50] <pieter2627> morning all
[06:51] <Kilos> hi pieter2627
[06:59] <Kilos> another day another dollar guys
[07:11] <Kilos> shoot me someone, i just made coffee but put it in my jungle oats instead of my coffee mug
[07:11] <Symmetria> hahahaha
[07:11] <Symmetria> neat
[07:11] <Symmetria> ;p
[07:13] <Kilos> they talk about ouderdom, the ouder is nothing its the dom thats the prob
[07:18] <ThatGraemeGuy> Kilos: sound like you just invented a way to save time at breakfast :-D
[07:19] <Kilos> hahaha
[07:19] <Kilos> doesnt taste too bad either
[07:19] <Kilos> just needed more sugar
[07:20] <ThatGraemeGuy> sies
[07:20] <ThatGraemeGuy> sugar is evil :-p
[07:20] <Kilos> yeah i know but it tastes so lekker
[07:20] <ThatGraemeGuy> lol
[07:23] <barrydk> More almal
[07:50] <Kilos> hi TinuvaMac
[07:51] <TinuvaMac> morning Kilos
[07:52] <Kilos> hmm... you have added yourself to https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ZATeam/Members yet
[07:52] <Kilos> naughty
[07:52] <Kilos> havent
[07:53] <TinuvaMac> dont know
[07:53] <TinuvaMac> what is that for?
[07:53] <Kilos> active za members
[07:53] <TinuvaMac> it says "Ubuntu" enthusiats...
[07:53] <TinuvaMac> I don't see myself as one
[07:54] <Kilos> launchpad say we have 80 but i never see so many now im collecting those that are active there
[07:54] <TinuvaMac> I am a general *nix enthusiast sure, but thats where I will leave it
[07:55] <Kilos> ya well we accept nix enthusiasts
[07:55] <Kilos> havent you got ubuntu running anywhere
[07:56] <TinuvaMac> we definitely do, for customers :P
[07:56] <Kilos> thats good enough
[07:56] <Kilos> join
[07:56] <Kilos> become part of our community
[08:01] <Kilos> oh
[08:01] <Kilos> when you install for customers tell them about this support channel please
[08:01] <Kilos> stick a lable on their pcs
[09:14] <Padroni> morning
[09:15] <Kilos> hi Padroni
[09:15] <Kilos> you battling at work?
[09:16] <Kilos> at/with work?
[09:17] <Kilos> yo drussell hows davey
[09:17] <psyatw> hi Kilos
[09:18] <psyatw> hi Padroni
[09:18] <Padroni> yeah, busy at work
[09:18] <Padroni> hi psyatw
[09:18] <Kilos> hi psyatw sorry didnt see you
[09:18] <psyatw> Kilos, no problem, I didn't even see myself as there is no mirror here at work
[09:19] <Kilos> lol
[09:36] <drussell> Kilos: hey! All good, back from a week and a half of holiday, refreshed and ready to go :oD How's you?
[09:37] <Kilos> im good ty, glad you get refreshed, others need to go to work to rest after hols
[11:25] <Kilos> hmm...
[11:25] * Kilos waves to tumbleweed and confluency
[13:23] <Mopkop> Hello all!
[13:23] <Kilos> hi Mopkop
[13:30] <Mopkop> You know the biggest hurdle with converting people to linux is no longer that they are used to windows (you can thank Windows 8 for that), but the gaming. The linux community should start focussing on making it worthwhile for companies to port to linux. Maybe by making distribution very easy.
[13:30] <Mopkop> Like an opensource steam or something.
[13:32] <ThatGraemeGuy> someone should ask Valve to port Steam to linux
[13:32] <ThatGraemeGuy> maybe they can get some games ported too to get things started
[13:32] <ThatGraemeGuy> nah, that's crazy talk
[13:50] <Mopkop> Lol
[13:52] <Kilos> hmm...
[13:53] <Kilos> im sure i played steam games here before
[13:53] <Kilos> only they use data
[13:54] <Kilos> hi Private_User
[13:54] <Kilos> whats happening there by you?
[13:55] <Private_User> hey Kilos
[13:55] <Private_User> ah nothing much, been offline the entire weekend, connected today but not sure why but my connecting was not stable
[13:56] <Kilos> eish you still struggling
[13:56] <Kilos> cellc was it
[13:57] <Private_User> yeah this thing is sometimes working 100% lekker and then at other times its like it not good at all
[13:57] <Kilos> ai!
[14:19] <Mopkop> I was thinking of an opensource alternative to steam, which is intergrated into Ubuntu, and publishers do not have to pay a fee. Kind of like the software centre, but with all the nice gadgets steam has.
[14:20] <ThatGraemeGuy> who would do that?
[14:20] <ThatGraemeGuy> i.e. where's the money? open source is all good and well but it sucks at paying rent :)
[14:21] <Kilos> hahaha
[14:22] <Kilos> i was just going to say them theyll start charging for ubuntu
[14:22] <ThatGraemeGuy> for now there's steam for distros, or SteamOS if you want something more appliance-like
[14:23] <ThatGraemeGuy> I think it may be too late to try and be the competitor there, they have a pretty solid head start. whatever you come up with would need to work on all 3 platforms Steam is already on
[14:29] <Padroni_> kilos that python book is actually quite good
[14:30] <Padroni_> I am using it in conjunction with my course material
[14:30] <Kilos> its what fly recommended
[14:30] <Kilos> good
[14:52] <Padroni_> I'm off
[14:52] <Padroni_> see tomorrow
[14:52] <Padroni_> Have a good one.
[14:52] <Kilos> go well
[14:53] <Mopkop> What book was that?
[14:53] <Mopkop> I want one too!
[14:54] <Kilos> byteofpython
[14:54] <Mopkop> maaz google byteofpython
[14:54] <Maaz> Mopkop: "A Byte of Python - Swaroop CH" http://www.swaroopch.com/notes/python/ :: "A Byte of Python - Swaroop CH" http://files.swaroopch.com/python/byte_of_python.pdf :: "A Byte of Python - Ibiblio" http://www.ibiblio.org/g2swap/byteofpython/read/ :: "A Byte of Python (PDF) - Ibiblio" http://www.ibiblio.org/swaroopch/byteofpython/files/120/byteofpython_120.pdf ::
[14:54] <Maaz> "A Byte of Python" http://www.byteofpython.info/ :: "Free PDF: A Byte of Python by Swaroop…
[14:54] <Kilos> http://files.swaroopch.com/python/byte_of_python.pdf
[14:55] <Mopkop> Thank you Maaz, Kilos.
[14:56] <Mopkop> The problem with getting new books, is you to read through most things you already know.
[14:57] <Kilos> its easy with a pdf you just scroll past
[15:03] <Mopkop> If I do that, there is that one line I missed which will make everything else difficult to understand. I'll just speed-read through it. :)
[15:09] <Kilos> lol then read everything man
[15:10] <Kilos> speed kills
[16:08] <Mopkop> Hello pieter2627!
[16:08] <Kilos> wb pieter2627
[16:09] <pieter2627> Hi Mopkop, Kilos and all others
[16:43] <Kilos> ohi superfly hows the heqad?
[16:44] <Kilos> head as well
[16:45] <superfly> mostly OK
[16:46] <Kilos> sjoe mostly
[17:01] <Kilos> i go eat
[17:07] <magespawn> good evening
[17:07] <Maaz> magespawn: By the way, Kilos on freenode told me "tell magespawn What is the link to the monkeys study wiki page ?" 2 days, 2 hours, 20 minutes and 24 seconds ago
[17:07] <Maaz> magespawn: By the way, Kilos on freenode told me "tell magespawn Did you get the dbnlug mail from edrich about work?" 6 hours, 58 minutes and 9 seconds ago
[17:14] <magespawn> Kilos: ping
[17:28] <Kilos> hi magespawn pong sorry
[17:28] <magespawn> Maaz tell Kilos http://linux-studies.za.net but the permissions have changed, i am not sure if there was a sign on, i think superfly is hosting it, if i recall correctly
[17:28] <Maaz> magespawn: Okay, I'll tell Kilos on freenode
[17:28] <magespawn> lol
[17:29] <Kilos> sjoe
[17:29] <Maaz> Kilos: By the way, magespawn on freenode told me "tell Kilos http://linux-studies.za.net but the permissions have changed, i am not sure if there was a sign on, i think superfly is hosting it, if i recall correctly" 33 seconds ago
[17:29] <magespawn> no worries Kilos, i did see that mail thanks
[17:30] <Kilos> whew
[17:30] <Kilos> monkey got probs
[17:30] <Kilos> he gets lug mail hey
[17:31] <magespawn> i think so, if not they will know how to get hold of him
[17:31] <magespawn> what problems does he have now?
[17:31] <Kilos> Maaz studiessite is <reply> http://linux-studies.za.net
[17:31] <Maaz> Kilos: If you say so
[17:31] <Kilos> outa work and had to leave room as house was sold
[17:32] <magespawn> might want to put a space in there
[17:32] <Kilos> Maaz studiessite
[17:32] <Maaz> http://linux-studies.za.net
[17:33] <Kilos> how come no one told you im eating
[17:33] <magespawn> i thought he was a programmer?
[17:33] <Kilos> sies man pieter2627 Mopkop
[17:33] <magespawn> i am too
[17:33] <magespawn> they are all fast asleep too
[17:33] <Kilos> lol
[17:33] <Mopkop> Kilos: ?
[17:34] <Kilos> as ek weg is groet mense asb en se hulle waar ek is
[17:34] <Mopkop> Lol, sorry oom :(
[17:34] <Kilos> np
[17:34] <Mopkop> Sal onthou in die vervolg.
[17:34] <magespawn> Kilos i thought he is a programmer?
[17:35] <Kilos> programmers must know how to do anything
[17:35] <Kilos> fly is also a programmer but he builds sites and lots more
[17:36] <Kilos> if you out of work you must take what you can
[17:36] <magespawn> do you know what kbmonkey does exactly?
[17:36] <Kilos> nope
[17:36] <Kilos> remember when we get him back that we find ou
[17:36] <Kilos> t
[17:37] <Kilos> not lekker having empty tummy long time
[17:37] <Kilos> i fasted once for 4 days
[17:37] <Kilos> first and second days are heavy
[17:37] <magespawn> no your tummy runs everything
[17:40] <Kilos> you got experience with that system magespawn
[17:40] <Kilos> i forget what
[17:40] <Kilos> the one the first lpi course used
[17:43] <Kilos> centos
[17:44] <Kilos> oh my
[17:44] <Kilos> only one i dont chase is inetpro
[17:45] <Kilos> he just ignores me
[17:53] <magespawn> back again Kilos
[17:54] <Kiloswhat> wb what broke
[17:54] <Kiloswhat> oh my
[17:54] <magespawn> lol
[17:54] <magespawn> looks like empangeni just went on load shedding
[17:55] <Kilos> sometimes konversation forgets where i must type
[17:55] <Kilos> eish
[17:59] <Mopkop> Loadshedding in 2 mins :(
[17:59] <Kilos> ai!
[18:09] <inetpro> Sanibonani nonke emhlabeni
[18:09] <Kilos> ja jy ook
[18:09] <Kilos> hi inetpro
[18:10] <magespawn> hi inetpro
[18:10] <inetpro> ohi Kilos
[18:10] <Kilos> lol
[18:12] <inetpro> how are things going here this evening?
[18:12] <Kilos> very quiet
[18:12] <Kilos> you havent been here to chase peeps
[18:12] <Kilos> wb Mopkop
[18:13] <Mopkop1> Lol, power not off yet...
[18:13] <Kilos> not here
[18:13] <Mopkop1> Eskom is waiting for me to do something engaging, and then cut me off in the middel.
[18:14] <Mopkop1> nick Mopkop
[18:14] <Kilos> thats why i cant use a ssd
[18:14] <magespawn> is that not always the way it works
[18:15] <Kilos> just now dont worry
[18:15] <Kilos> kohlewe
[18:15] <Kilos> how you spell that inetpro ?
[18:16] <Kilos> oh paw here too
[18:16] <inetpro> Kilos: you mean to say ngikohliwe?
[18:16] <inetpro> you forgot what?
[18:17] <Kilos> ja ek het vergeet
[18:17] <inetpro> wat het jy vergeet oom?
[18:17] <Kilos> where did i say i forgot
[18:17] <Kilos> oh
[18:17] <inetpro> lol
[18:18] <Kilos> n ot me man the dodo that was supposed to turn the power off
[18:18] <inetpro> ahh, ukohliwe
[18:19] <Kilos> ty ill try member that
[18:19] <Kilos> you got trello work
[18:19] <Kilos> and ty for the sphinx warning
[18:19] <inetpro> tell me about the work Kilos
[18:19] <Kilos> where is the COC walk through
[18:19] <Kilos> i got more work
[18:20] <inetpro> oh
[18:20] <Kilos> this time in asia somewhere
[18:20] <inetpro> Kilos: https://trello.com/c/olme2bfK
[18:20] <magespawn> why asia?
[18:20] <Kilos> where was it inetpro
[18:21] <Kilos> i just helped korea get a loco going magespawn and there are some hassles in an asian loco
[18:21] <inetpro> Kilos: in Current Activities
[18:21] <Kilos> ai! ty inetpro
[18:22] <Kilos> methinks best way to smooth out a loco with internal strife is to get them to read and sign the COC
[18:23] <magespawn> sounds like a good idea, get everyone on the same page
[18:23] <Kilos> why cant other locos run like ours
[18:23] <Kilos> we got a lekker LoCo
[18:24] <inetpro> Kilos: sorry for ignoring you on that
[18:24] <Kilos> np inetpro
[18:24] <magespawn> they are not as intelligent?
[18:24] <inetpro> but you had me confused for a moment and then I forgot to go check again
[18:24] <Kilos> he is offline anyway
[18:24] <Kilos> lol
[18:24] <inetpro> Kilos: you added that to 'done for March 2015'
[18:25] <Kilos> oh my
[18:25] <inetpro> not making sense there
[18:25] <Kilos> how do we save it
[18:25] <Kilos> oh in maaz
[18:25] <inetpro> Kilos: you can just archive it now
[18:26] <inetpro> Kilos: you just failed to RTFS again :-)
[18:26] <Kilos> lol
[18:26] <Kilos> im blinder man
[18:26] <inetpro> Kilos: no worries
[18:26] * inetpro fails all day every day
[18:27] <Kilos> where can we save that info and remember it
[18:27] <Kilos> i think slexy removes old posts dont they
[18:27] <inetpro> leave that card there for now until someone has time to put it up nicely
[18:27] <inetpro> we have more important things to deal with now
[18:28] <Kilos> what
[18:28] <inetpro> hmm... we actually need superfly to come help us
[18:28] <magespawn> Kilos have you tried things like evernote?
[18:28] <Kilos> nope magespawn
[18:29] <inetpro> magespawn: don't come with even more things now man
[18:29] <Kilos> oh the site inetpro
[18:29] <Kilos> magespawn you do that for us
[18:29] <magespawn> inetpro: just an idea
[18:30] <Kilos> get the COC walk through and post it somewhere safe
[18:30] <Kilos> its in trello
[18:30] <inetpro> Kilos: one step at a time
[18:30] <inetpro> it's safe in trello
[18:30] <inetpro> for now at least
[18:30] <Kilos> him not me man
[18:31] <Kilos> ya but do i give the trello link to someone in asia?
[18:31] <inetpro> Kilos: does he really need it?
[18:32] <inetpro> obviously, anyone can read that
[18:32] <Kilos> well youve seen peeps battle with COC
[18:32] <inetpro> it's public information on our Trello board
[18:32] <Kilos> sjoe
[18:32] <Kilos> im gonna use kaans there in future
[18:33] <inetpro> Kilos: just like here
[18:33] <Kilos> ya but here i see them
[18:33] <inetpro> uh?
[18:33] <Kilos> and greet them
[18:34] <Kilos> and check if their hair is combed
[18:34] <inetpro> oh
[18:34] <inetpro> Kilos: but the, you don't really
[18:34] <Kilos> uh
[18:35] <inetpro> hundreds are reading what you say here later via the irclogs
[18:35] <Kilos> hi spinza
[18:35] <Kilos> you are way behind
[18:35] <Kilos> thats fine
[18:35] <Kilos> they must that poor group
[18:36] <Kilos> wsay
[18:36] <Kilos> say
[18:37] <Mopkop> We still have this...
[18:37] <Mopkop> maaz code of conduct
[18:37] <Maaz> http://bin.snyman.info/rcecy
[18:38] <Kilos> ty Mopkop
[18:38] <Mopkop> Been meaning to make a better one, but at least it's foolproof.
[18:38] <Kilos> maaz COC is <reply> http://bin.snyman.info/rcecy
[18:38] <Maaz> Kilos: If you say so
[18:40] <Kilos> so which part of your pc does the COC align with inetpro ?
[18:41] <Kilos> if i change cpu will i need to do it again
[18:41] <Kilos> i dont think it will be ram related
[18:42] * Mopkop is not following the discussion.
[18:43] <magespawn> they key is stored on your harddrive Kilos
[18:43] <Kilos> the gpg thing i think
[18:43] <Mopkop> Yea, the gpg key. It's just a text file.
[18:43] <Kilos> oh so only the drive is recognised
[18:44] <Kilos> if you change drives you need to make a new one
[18:44] <Mopkop> Deja dup will keep it backed up, I Think.
[18:44] <Mopkop> No you can just import the old one.
[18:45] <inetpro> has anyone figure why you really need the GPG key even?
[18:45] <inetpro> figured*
[18:45] <magespawn> you can copy the key to ther locations, and as far as i know devices
[18:46] <Kilos> nono Mopkop
[18:46] <magespawn> s/ther/other
[18:46] <Kilos> it recognises something in your pc
[18:46] <inetpro> do we still have peepe who use GPG?
[18:46] <magespawn> inetpro: it 'proves' who signed the code of conduct
[18:47] <inetpro> hmm...
[18:47] <Mopkop> Kilos: Oh I see. The only thing I can think of is the Harddrive's serial number.
[18:47] <Kilos> cantried taking the key to another machine and it didnt work
[18:48] <Kilos> it even makes you type some more at time to make the key
[18:48] <Kilos> its a serious thing that
[18:49] <inetpro> Kilos: serious!?
[18:49] <Kilos> ya hard to break from another pc
[18:49] <Mopkop> It chould also be the machine name, or username like with SSH keys.
[18:49] <magespawn> is there a better way inetpro?
[18:50] <inetpro> magespawn: not that I'm aware of
[18:50] * inetpro just forgot the process due to doing it so long ago
[18:51] <inetpro> haven't needed the key ever again
[18:51] <Kilos> ya its only for signing the COC isnt it
[18:52] <inetpro> can't remember it being difficult
[18:52] <Kilos> sjoe
[18:52] <magespawn> you can also use your key to sign all sorts of things, like email or other documents
[18:52] <Kilos> fly had to help me twice on this machine and old one
[18:53] <Mopkop> gpg can also be used for sending secret (encrypted) messages with Thunderbird.
[18:53] <inetpro> I sent a few secret emails at the time just for the fun of it
[18:53] <inetpro> gave up because nobody else was using it
[18:53] <Kilos> lol
[18:54] <inetpro> can't believe we still use email after all this time
[18:54] <Kilos> too much like hard work to get one
[18:54] <magespawn> it not only 'ensures' the privacy of the mail, but authenticates who it is from
[18:54] <inetpro> it's a yuck technology
[18:55] <inetpro> almost like FTP
[18:55] <inetpro> I just wish I had the brains to replace it with something much better
[18:55] <magespawn> it is what people are comfortable with, those same people might sa the same about irc
[18:56] <Mopkop> magespawn has a point
[18:56] <magespawn> s/sa/say
[18:57] <Kilos> hmm... not sure anymore but dont think i battled much with irc
[18:57] <inetpro> no!! Please don't touch my IRC!!
[18:57] <inetpro> :-)
[18:57] <Kilos> the fly was there all the way
[18:57] <Kilos> go fly
[18:58] <magespawn> gotta go, getting chased up to my room, bbl if i can
[18:58] <Kilos> ok magespawn
[18:58] <inetpro> magespawn: go, go, go!
[18:58] <Kilos> lol
[19:10] <Mopkop> I heard a disturbing thing from a friend who develops military software.
[19:10] <Kilos> tell
[19:11] <Mopkop> Apparently many military units (from all over the world, including South Africa) do not not change their passwords. So the passwords are something like 'admin' or 'password12' or 'qwerty'
[19:11] <Mopkop> Doesn't make me feel very safe.
[19:12] <Kilos> lol
[19:13] <Mopkop> It's more difficult hacking a home computer than hacking the many of the army's installations.
[19:14] <inetpro> Mopkop: don't tell anybody
[19:14] <Mopkop> Sometimes those "installations" have guns. I know my friend is working on computerized barbed wire. If someone touches it, it sends the location to cameras and guns.
[19:15] <Mopkop> inetpro: too late, these things are logged :(
[19:15] <inetpro> Kilos: where's Padroni when we need him?
[19:15] <Kilos> lol day time only
[19:16] <Mopkop> Really?
[19:16] <inetpro> :-)
[19:16] <Kilos> and all windows pcs Mopkop
[19:24] <pieter2627> night all
[19:24] <Kilos> night piesleep tight
[19:24] <Kilos> ai!
[19:27] <Kilos> night all. sleep tight. i gotta crash too
[19:27] <Kilos> inetpro gaan slaap man
[19:27] <inetpro> why?
[19:28] <Kilos> so you not tired tomorrow
[19:28] <inetpro> too early
[19:28] <Kilos> nono
[19:28] <Kilos> 8 hours sleep will make you young and beautiful
[19:28] <inetpro> sleep time is at midnight
[19:28] <Kilos> hee hee
[19:28] <inetpro> oh serious!?
[19:29] * inetpro will think about it
[19:29] <Kilos> night toppie
[19:29] <inetpro> Kilos: slaap lekker!
[19:29] <Mopkop> Night Kilos!
[20:25] * superfly is wondering who or what he needs to save
[20:28] <inetpro> superfly: hmm...
[20:56] <inetpro> superfly: you mean you want to look at merging now?
[20:57] <superfly> I can have a peek
[20:59] <inetpro> start with https://trello.com/c/9GVSB9pC
[21:01] <inetpro> and on Ubuntu Africa check what I merged first before you go to https://trello.com/c/xYVal5XG
[21:01] <superfly> inetpro: if you add new revisions after proposing a merge, you need to re-propose the merge
[21:02] <inetpro> good to know that, ty
[21:04] <inetpro> superfly: so I add another comment and choose resubmit?
[21:05] <superfly> No, click on "resubmit" on the top right
[21:05] <superfly> comments = comments, they have no effect
[21:05] <inetpro> oh I missed that, thanks
[21:07] <inetpro> and do I tick "Start afresh"?
[21:07] <inetpro> superfly: ^^
[21:09] <superfly> no
[21:10] <inetpro> donr
[21:10] <inetpro> done as well
[21:11] <superfly> inetpro: the ubuntu-africa site needs Nikola 7.3 or higher
[21:11] <superfly> inetpro: Kilos used that, and I worked off his initial copy, so I had to install it in a virtualenv to be able to generate the site
[21:12] <inetpro> ok
[21:13] <inetpro> so apt-get install won't work?
[21:14] <superfly> nope
[21:15] <inetpro> changing the note to simply, "Minimum version of Nikola required is 7.3 or higher"
[21:15] <inetpro> but doesn't sound right
[21:16] <inetpro> do you fix grammer when merging or not?
[21:17] <inetpro> grammar*
[21:19] <inetpro> superfly: oops, you should actually have looked at https://trello.com/c/9jKkuos5 before my build instructions
[21:20] <superfly> inetpro: you fix what needs to be fixed, I'm not fixing anything when I merge. That's the point of the proposal.
[21:21] <inetpro> cool, just curios to know the thinking and approach
[21:22] <inetpro> ai! curious*
[21:24] <inetpro> superfly: thanks for the reviews
[21:25] <superfly> np
[21:25] <inetpro> does that mean I get to sleep now?
[21:25] <inetpro> :-)
[21:31] <inetpro> superfly: anything else you don't like in the build instructions that I need to change?
[21:31] <inetpro> before I request another merge
[21:32] <superfly> I'm not sure, I haven't looked through it properly yet
[21:32] <inetpro> hmm... you want me to rather wait another day?
[21:33] <inetpro> I can wait
[21:39] <inetpro> or I guess I can just resubmit with every small change... done :-)
[21:44] <inetpro> good night everyone
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| 2015-04-07T00:00:00 |
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"Maaz",
"Mopkop",
"Mopkop1",
"Padroni",
"Padroni_",
"Private_User",
"Symmetria",
"ThatGraemeGuy",
"TinuvaMac",
"Tonberry",
"barrydk",
"drussell",
"inetpro",
"magespawn",
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"psyatw",
"superfly"
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"channel": "#ubuntu-za"
}
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2015-04-07-#kubuntu-devel
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[03:04] <frecel> ahoneybun: https://github.com/frecel/DocCheck
[06:24] <ovidiu-florin> soee_: what don't you like about the icons?
[06:32] <soee_> ovidiu-florin: this is how i see them :) http://wstaw.org/m/2015/04/05/snapshot2.png
[06:32] <soee_> *would liek to see
[06:33] <ovidiu-florin> so, smaller?
[06:34] <ovidiu-florin> and with border, but no background
[06:34] <soee_> yes
[06:35] <ovidiu-florin> ok, I'll take care of that this evening
[06:35] <ovidiu-florin> soee_ ahoneybun please make a list of things that need to be done, what you think needs fixing, except the team page
[06:36] <ovidiu-florin> so we can send it this weekend
[08:09] <sitter> Riddell: ping
[08:12] <soee_> sitter: i think he is off for 2 days
[08:12] <sitter> oh my
[08:23] <lordievader> Good morning.
[08:28] <sitter> calligra packaging is so sad
[08:28] <sitter> so very very sad
[09:12] <Sick_Rimmit> Good morning lovely people, I'm back from my holidays
[09:13] <lordievader> Hey Sick_Rimmit, how was your holiday?
[09:13] <Sick_Rimmit> lordievader: Oh thanks for asking, it was very good, children had lots of fun playing on the beach etc...
[09:15] <lordievader> Beaches are good :)
[09:16] <soee_> hiho Sick_Rimmit
[09:16] <Sick_Rimmit> soee: Hello how r u ?
[09:17] <soee> Sick_Rimmit: can't say im good :/ Like 2 months ago i was sick for 2 weeks, a month ago for 1 week and now again...
[09:18] <soee> never had such strike
[09:18] <Sick_Rimmit> soee: Viruses, and Flu type stuff ?
[09:19] <soee> Sick_Rimmit: yup, now also smoe strange muscle pain
[09:19] <soee> this is so annoying :)
[09:19] <Sick_Rimmit> soee: Ah, yes I think I that it exotoxins produced post infection like this
[09:20] <Sick_Rimmit> soee: Drink lots, I mean 2 -3 litres of water each day throughout the day, this should help
[09:20] <Sick_Rimmit> soee: I know loads of folks who have been having these viruses, me too infact
[09:20] <soee> :(
[09:20] <Sick_Rimmit> soee: I hope you feel better soon :-)
[09:21] <soee> Sick_Rimmit: thanks
[09:21] <soee> guys, somene english speaking can verify texts here is tehy are ok http://kubwp.kubuntu.co.uk/feature-tour/ ?
[09:21] <soee> *if they
[09:21] <soee> and maybe suggest some modifications ?
[09:27] <soee> ovidiu-florin: in feature tour page, i would increase space above and under images + ~20px
[09:28] <soee> ovidiu-florin: we can make it same as top and bottom padding of those ections
[09:52] <Sick_Rimmit> soee: I will take a look at that link for you..
[09:56] <valorie> soee: I would love to cut down the text on the feature-tour page, but it's 3am and i'm heading to bed
[09:57] <valorie> about half the words could be cut
[10:06] <soee> valorie: cut all ?
[10:06] <soee> valorie: ok, have a good night
[10:06] <soee> Sick_Rimmit: would be cool
[10:06] <Sick_Rimmit> valorie: OK I'll take a look
[10:06] <Sick_Rimmit> valorie: Nite
[10:22] <ovidiu-florin> sitter: hello
[10:22] <sitter> yo
[10:24] <ovidiu-florin> sitter: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kubuntu-driver-manager/+bug/1440805
[10:25] <ovidiu-florin> Is that your doing?
[10:26] <sitter> maybe
[10:26] <sitter> driver is shadeslayer's thing
[10:27] <ovidiu-florin> He pointed at you
[10:28] <sitter> shadeslayer: what gives
[10:28] <shadeslayer> What
[10:28] <shadeslayer> I said I'd look at it?
[10:29] <shadeslayer> If I pointed at sitter , my bad
[10:29] <sitter> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZThquH5t0ow
[10:29] <shadeslayer> ovidiu-florin: ah, it was meant as a joke :P
[10:31] <shadeslayer> Whenever I make absolute statements, they're usually meant as a joke
[10:31] <shadeslayer> *a wild sock appears*
[11:18] * ahoneybun wishes khelpcenter had a webview
[11:19] <sitter> ScottK, Riddell: calligra dep fix waiting for approval in vivid
[11:19] <sitter> ahoneybun: what do you mean?
[11:20] <ahoneybun> sitter: like the widget "Web browser" so you can see all the pretty elements of the userbase wiki
[11:21] <ahoneybun> also QtWebKit module is missing
[11:24] <sitter> khelpcenter renders through khtml... the reason it doesn't look like on userbase is because it uses an html export that aligns with the theming of the rest of the documentation
[11:37] <Sick_Rimmit> soee: I have some edits for the features page, how would you like me to provide them ?
[11:38] <soee> Sick_Rimmit: send to ovidiu-florin or put them on his trello task list
[11:39] <Sick_Rimmit> soee: OK No probs
[11:52] <ovidiu-florin> Awesome, more stuff to do
[12:12] <BluesKaj> Hiyas all
[14:50] <soee> ovidiu-florin: we need to modify list styles a bit, if you look here http://kubwp.kubuntu.co.uk/support/ the list item dots are rendered near image
[14:50] <soee> ovidiu-florin: also there are some contents where text does not align images properly
[14:51] <ovidiu-florin> On the support page the issue is with the image not the list
[14:52] <soee> ovidiu-florin: the images (or their container) in conent should be floated to left or right, and have also set margins (left or right) and bottom
[14:52] <darthanubis> https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=345939
[14:53] <darthanubis> The konversation develipoers said I should bring this to the attention of my distro devels?
[14:54] <ovidiu-florin> How is that distro related?
[14:55] <ovidiu-florin> Unless there are missing dependencies
[14:56] <ovidiu-florin> Which were not marked as such
[14:56] <Sho_> rdieter (fedora) thinks it's happening due to mixing qt4/5 in the phonon/phonon-vlc stuff
[14:56] <BluesKaj> darthanubis, ignore just doesn't work on the dev version here
[14:56] <darthanubis> https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=345956
[14:56] <Sho_> BluesKaj: Can you tell me more?
[14:56] <ovidiu-florin> soee: they need the alignright class
[14:56] <ovidiu-florin> Or alignleft
[14:58] <BluesKaj> Sho_, the ignored nick doesn't appear in the ignore list
[14:59] <Sho_> BluesKaj: works fine here
[14:59] <Sho_> BluesKaj: can you give exact steps?
[15:01] <ovidiu-florin> darthanubis: how are those distro related?
[15:02] <darthanubis> just relaying the message
[15:02] <darthanubis> if I knew, I'd probably be able to fix it myself
[15:03] <darthanubis> unfortunately, my skill set only allows me to be a beta tester, at best, at worst, just a guy konversation fails on
[15:03] <BluesKaj> Sho_, right click on the nick either in the chat text or the nicklist choose ignore in the dialog , then check ignore in settings>configure konversation
[15:03] <Sho_> BluesKaj: That's what I did and it showed up in the dialog fine here
[15:03] <Sho_> BluesKaj: But I opened the dialog after ignoring
[15:04] <Sho_> BluesKaj: do you have it open *while* ignoring?
[15:04] <BluesKaj> have what open ?
[15:04] <Sho_> BluesKaj: the config dialog
[15:04] <BluesKaj> you have to
[15:04] <ovidiu-florin> darthanubis: run ksycoca
[15:05] <BluesKaj> how else do choose?
[15:05] <BluesKaj> to choose
[15:05] <Sho_> BluesKaj: in the context menu ...?
[15:05] <ovidiu-florin> Do you have it?
[15:05] <BluesKaj> okj sorry I meant the context menu/dialog'
[15:05] <darthanubis> so systemsettings kept crashing which hitting multimedia to change sound backends. I purged all phono-vlc backends, and now plasma itself has dumped and not restarted yet
[15:05] <Sho_> BluesKaj: Here's my steps: 1. right-click some nick here in the nicklist, 2. click ignore, 3. click settings, 4. click configure konversation, 5. check ignore -> nick is there
[15:05] <Sho_> BluesKaj: So i'm asking whether you do 4. before 1.
[15:06] <Sho_> because that's the only diff i can think of
[15:06] <darthanubis> ksycoca: command not found
[15:06] <BluesKaj> Ido it in the same sequence as you did Sho_
[15:07] <Sho_> BluesKaj: Ok, not sure then ... I run current git instead of 1.6-beta1, but I don't think we made any changed to ignoring since the beta
[15:07] <Sho_> BluesKaj: maybe try a different nick and see if it happens with all of them or not
[15:08] <BluesKaj> Sho_, Version 1.6-beta1 here as well
[15:09] <BluesKaj> Sho_, it's the same with other nicks, no ignored nicks in the list
[15:09] <Sho_> very strange
[15:09] <Sho_> works just fine here
[15:10] <Sho_> maybe we did fix something since the beta
[15:12] <BluesKaj> I also have a weird thing with chat text notification in just one chat (kubuntu-offtopic) where the text on the chat tab doesn't change colour when an entry is typed into the chat text..this only happens on kubuntu-offtopic , all the others work
[15:32] <BluesKaj> doh, the "enable notification" in the tab context menu wasn't checked
[15:34] <soee> BluesKaj: are you on plasma5 atm ?
[15:34] <BluesKaj> soee, yes
[15:35] <ovidiu-florin> darthanubis: what version of kubuntu are you running on?
[15:37] <soee> BluesKaj: can you open Amarok (systray icon should be visible) and check if you can rightclick on that systray icon and play/stop track ?
[15:37] <soee> stop seems to work, but i cant start playing track
[15:41] <BluesKaj> soee, play works , but pause takes about 2 secs to work
[15:41] <soee> BluesKaj: maybe you have timeoout set to stop track in settings
[15:42] <soee> strange though play doesnt work for me
[15:42] <soee> but im testing it on radio sstations
[15:42] <BluesKaj> soee, it won't quit from the systray tho
[15:42] <soee> but with track also doesnt work
[15:43] <BluesKaj> I don't even use amarok > I prefer vlc
[15:43] <soee> ;o
[15:45] <soee> in 15 min https://plus.google.com/events/ct0mjo7bqfn98g9f3kavpcbl4sg
[15:48] <yofel> ovidiu-florin, darthanubis: it's called kbuildsycoca5
[15:48] <yofel> (or 4)
[15:51] <sitter> sddm branch was like 5 uplodas out of date :'<
[15:52] * sitter out
[15:54] <ovidiu-florin> yofel: I suspected that's what it reffered to
[15:54] <ovidiu-florin> but wasn't sure
[15:56] <ovidiu-florin> soee: uuuuuuuu
[15:57] <soee> ovidiu-florin: what hapend ?
[15:57] <ovidiu-florin> Ubuntu on air
[15:57] <ovidiu-florin> Are you presenting??
[16:01] <soee> no not me :)
[16:01] <soee> maybe someday :D
[16:05] <ovidiu-florin> soee: hangouts live is broken in chromium
[16:06] <soee> ?
[16:15] <ovidiu-florin> it complains that my browser doesn't recognize any of the available video formats
[16:15] <ovidiu-florin> which is utter crap
[16:25] <ovidiu-florin> ahoneybun: ping
[16:39] <ovidiu-florin> Riddell: the message you told me: "message saying "please come and join us in #kubuntu-devel to help out" to team page" should be on the Contribute page
[16:39] <ovidiu-florin> not on the team page
[16:39] <Sick_Rimmit> ovidiu-florin: Hi I almost finish the review of Feature Tour, with notes for what I think might be useful text
[16:39] <ovidiu-florin> awesome
[16:39] <ovidiu-florin> Sick_Rimmit: ^
[16:40] <Sick_Rimmit> ovidiu-florin: I will try to finish tomorrow, and get the ODT Doc to you
[16:40] <Sick_Rimmit> Going home for today
[16:40] <Sick_Rimmit> See you all
[16:40] <ovidiu-florin> see you soon Sick_Rimmit
[16:40] * Sick_Rimmit Out!
[16:48] <darthanubis> ovidiu-florin: 15.04
[16:49] <ovidiu-florin> darthanubis: run kbuildsycoca4 and 5
[16:49] <ovidiu-florin> do they work?
[17:12] <Quintasan> ovidiu-florin: pog
[17:12] <Quintasan> pong*
[17:20] <ovidiu-florin> Quintasan: where's Pawel?
[17:21] <Quintasan> ovidiu-florin: I think he still didn't get back from holiday break.
[17:22] <Quintasan> ovidiu-florin: I think I asked him to subscribe to the mailing list, didn't he do that?
[18:43] <ovidiu-florin> Quintasan: no idea
[18:43] <Quintasan> I see.
[18:43] <Quintasan> I'll poke him when he's back.
[18:47] <ovidiu-florin> Quintasan: poke him for some feedback on the site
[18:47] <ovidiu-florin> leave the feedback on trello
[19:07] <ovidiu-florin> Possible issue on Vivid: If I open 1 file (in kate) from dolphin and then open another one from dolphin, Dolphin feezes, untill I close Kate
[19:07] <ovidiu-florin> can someone replicate?
[19:38] <ahoneybun> ovidiu-florin: pong
[19:40] <ovidiu-florin> ahoneybun: I already told you on trello
[19:40] <ahoneybun> oh ok
[19:40] <ahoneybun> just checking
[19:41] <ahoneybun> ovidiu-florin: should I add text about dolpin? seems I break it everytime I edit it
[19:44] <ahoneybun> Riddell: I put in the application for my passport
[20:05] <ovidiu-florin> ahoneybun: Just don't save using the visual editor
[20:18] <ahoneybun> ovidiu-florin: funny as I was in the text editor
[20:19] <ovidiu-florin> weird
[20:19] <ahoneybun> yea
[20:19] <ahoneybun> I might have moved over to the visual to look at something
[20:26] <ahoneybun> ovidiu-florin: did I break anything this time?
[20:36] <ovidiu-florin> ahoneybun: "Location, a built-in Terminal and many others"
[20:37] <ovidiu-florin> ahoneybun: and remove the +10 from the script on the top, please
[20:39] <ahoneybun> done ovidiu-florin
[20:40] <ovidiu-florin> seems ok
[20:40] <ahoneybun> cool
[20:46] <soee> ovidiu-florin: nice work on feature tour icons, one last thing: add horizontal space like 15-20px between them
[20:47] <ovidiu-florin> soee: but, but, but..... they look awesome like this
[20:47] <ovidiu-florin> if I add more space they will look like teeth with room to spare between them
[20:58] <xennex81> http://www.kubuntu.org/feature-tour i think the spacing on the entire site can be improved but those 5 icons are really well done.
[21:02] <soee> xennex81: this is old page
[21:02] <xennex81> ah
[21:02] <xennex81> what is the new one again?
[21:04] <ovidiu-florin> shadeslayer can you help me with some Qt/KDE code?
[21:11] <xennex81> kubwp.kubuntu.co.uk right
[21:12] <xennex81> good luck with it
[21:13] <yofel> hm, how about removing the border radius on the icon border? (or maybe using 1 or 2 px?)
[21:14] <xennex81> how can I most easily learn how to debug the plasma4-desktop application or component that runs in kde4? something is hogging my resources. Must I deal with KDE folk directly?
[21:24] <ovidiu-florin> yofel: leave your sugestion in a trello card please
[21:24] <ovidiu-florin> yofel: https://trello.com/b/3Fo1KXoN/kubuntu-promotion
[21:24] <yofel> ack
[21:24] <xennex81> empty slogans. hm..
[21:27] <yofel> hm?
[23:07] <frecel> ahoneybun: hi
[23:07] <soee> frecel: you work @night ? :)
[23:08] <frecel> soee: I live in Canada so I just got home from work
[23:08] <soee> aa :D
[23:09] <frecel> soee: are you on 15.04 by any chance?
[23:11] <soee> frecel: yeah, since 4 months :)
[23:12] <frecel> soee: is compositing working for you? When I turn compositing on my screen goes black and all I see is the mouse
[23:13] <frecel> It's definitely Kwins fault because if I switch TTYs and kill Kwin everything seems to run ok
[23:13] <frecel> except for the missing window manager part of course
[23:14] <soee> frecel: yes it works, im using OpenGL 3.1 and GLX
[23:15] <frecel> what graphics card do you use?
[23:15] <soee> i have laptop with 2 gpus, but as atm. nvidia-prime does not work with sddm, my machine uses intel
[23:17] <frecel> that would explain some of the issues I'm having
[23:21] <soee> why ?
[23:27] <darthanubis> has anyone tried using EGL?
[23:28] <ahoneybun> frecel: hello
[23:28] <soee> darthanubis: not me, it desn't work i think
[23:29] <darthanubis> it works
[23:31] <frecel> ahoneybun: https://github.com/frecel/DocCheck
[23:34] <ahoneybun> awesomeness
[23:34] * ahoneybun runs
[23:38] <ahoneybun> frecel: this is the log it gave me http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/10767889/
[23:38] <ahoneybun> very cool
[23:40] <valorie> I wanted to report here that Konvi crashed due to missing/old dependencies - and reported about it, which is a bit strange: cgmanager, initscripts, libcgmanager0, libkmod2, sysv-rc, sysvinit-utils
[23:40] <valorie> it said in the popup
[23:41] <valorie> I was attempting to report a visual bug in update-manager when Apport crashed - I was able to report that successfully: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/apport/+bug/1441357
[23:41] <valorie> sorry, ubottu, it registered as a private bug report for some reason
[23:42] <frecel> ahoneybun: I couldn't find a good technical dictionary that has strings like tar.bz2 in it so what I'm currently using is en-US dictionary from Firefox and manually add more words every time I find something
[23:43] <ahoneybun> frecel: sounds like lots of work, thank you
[23:43] <ahoneybun> hard to find the meaning of .tar or .zip in the dictionary lol
[23:45] <frecel> ahoneybun: Actually even though this is a lot of work I find it oddly relaxing. After a stressful day at work it's kind of nice to come home and just parse text haha
[23:46] <ahoneybun> XD
[23:49] <frecel> ahoneybun: do you know if there is a full list of kde projects somewhere?
[23:52] <ahoneybun> frecel: community wise: http://kde-apps.org/
[23:52] <ahoneybun> https://www.kde.org/applications/
[23:55] <frecel> ahoneybun: sweet, I'll add that to the dictionary today
[23:55] <ahoneybun> cool
[23:56] <frecel> I'm using the same backeng for spellcheck as Firefox and Open/LibreOffice, it's actually a much more clever system than I thought
[23:56] <ahoneybun> awesome
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[00:31] <NewUser998> Alguém pode me dar uma ajuda? Baixei o ubuntu agorinha, veio em .iso, o pc acaba montando a imagem, mas quando vou ao instalador, pede pra inserir um cd. Antes não rolava isso, como faço pra ficar dual boot? Win 8.1
[00:33] <astroo-> esta no site oficial do ubuntu como fazer
[00:35] <Rudolf> astroo-: parabéns
[00:35] <Rudolf> heuheiehiuehiuehe
[00:36] <astroo-> ok...
[01:01] <CyberWorld> BOA NOITE GALERA
[01:10] <Rudolf> noite
[01:10] <astroo-> ciao
[01:15] <dk_millares> boa
[02:05] <cida> Oi gente
[02:07] <lieber> Oi cida
[02:08] <cida> ;)
[02:09] <cida> Tranquilo hj. Nao tem ninguem com duvidas hj...rsrsrs
[02:09] <astroo-> ola
[02:10] <cida> Bateria do cel acabando. Talves so entre amanha
[02:10] <cida> Oi astro
[02:11] <cida> Ping 300.0 ms ta alta nao eata?😊
[02:12] <astroo-> sim
[02:13] <cida> Caiu para 175 e chegou a 900. Pq oscila tanto
[02:13] <cida> Bjinhos to indo
[02:15] <astroo-> ate
[02:24] <Rudolf> cida: hasta!
[03:30] <astroo-> ciao pessoal
[11:11] <azanetti> Estou procurando empresas que prestem consultoria avançada em Linux (ubuntu) para rede, mais especificamente implementação de QOS, interface Bond e controle avançado de tráfego. Alguem conhece alguma empresa para indicar?????
[12:39] <mirqui> bom dia :)
[12:39] <Elfon> bom dia
[12:39] <mirqui> blza , tudo bem :)?
[12:46] <Cyber> bom dia
[12:46] <mirqui> blza , tudo bem :)?
[12:49] <Cyber> tranquilex e por ai
[12:49] <mirqui> aqui vamos todos bem graças a deus :)
[12:49] <mirqui> quais são as novas?
[12:50] <Cyber> as novas é q o VMWAre n quer emular o linux na minha maquina
[12:51] <mirqui> tem oiutras virtual machines
[12:51] <Cyber> eu ia usar o virtual box
[12:51] <Cyber> mais ele n aceita sistema com arquitetura 64bits
[12:52] <Cyber> ai to tentando ver aqui no forum da vmware se encontro alguma solução pro problema
[12:52] <mirqui> e o blackbox não é uma vm?
[12:53] <Cyber> nunca usei n
[12:53] <mirqui> espera
[12:54] <Cyber> bls
[12:55] <mirqui> vc usa linux ou windows?
[12:56] <Cyber> agora windows pq to no serviço
[12:56] <mirqui> http://www.baixaki.com.br/busca/?q=maquinas+virtuais&so=1&buscar=
[12:56] <mirqui> dá uma olhada
[12:57] <Cyber> vou dar uma testada nesses aki
[12:57] <mirqui> boa sorte :)
[14:03] <mirqui> alguém pode ajudar
[14:04] <mirqui> tenho uma epson tx 210 , queriaum programa para verificar o nivel de tinta dos cartuchos
[14:37] <zeio> mirqui alguem lhe respondeu
[15:10] <Elfon> zeio: ele saiu do canal :)
[15:12] <zeio> sim
[16:56] <ule> alguem ai usa ubuntu + amazon aws?
[17:48] <Elfon_> pessoal, Ubuntu Lts só tem i386 e x86_64?
[17:53] <Elfon_> ????
[18:07] <Elfon_2> ??
[18:20] <zeio> Elfon quanto a plataforma x86_64 no ubuntu o pacote deve ser AMD64
[18:21] <Elfon> zeio: tô olhando aqui: http://www.ubuntu.com/download/alternative-downloads
[18:22] <Elfon> na opção de bitorrent não tem amd64 não
[18:22] <Elfon> só tem uma opção 64
[18:22] <Elfon> aliás...é essa mesmo :)
[18:22] <zeio> isso ai, quando escolher pacore 64 repare no nome do arquivo .iso
[18:22] <Elfon> mas não vi i586
[18:22] <zeio> http://releases.ubuntu.com/14.04.2/ubuntu-14.04.2-desktop-amd64.iso.torrent
[18:49] <cyber> Elfon: tem 2 ubuntu um com arquitetura 64bits e o outro 32bits o, i386 é o 32 bits e o amd64 é o 64 bits simples assim
[18:51] <Elfon> cyber: achei q tinha 32bits i586
[18:53] <cyber> esse 32bits i586 deve ser versão beta ou deve ser algum sistema modificado
[18:53] <cyber> pq os do site nunca vi com essa versão de i586
[18:54] <cyber> posso ate ta enganado e pode existir mais no site pelo menos nunca vi e sempre que sai uma atualização eu baixo e vem com o mesma arquitetura e nome
[18:56] <Elfon> ok
[19:07] <Elfon> Quais os requisitos do ubuntu lts 14.10 64?
[19:08] <cyber> rapaiz ai eu ja n sei kkkk
[19:08] <cyber> pq as maquina que eu uso sempre é de ultima geração entao n sei quais os requisitos minmos
[19:09] <cyber> minimos*
[19:12] <Elfon> pq vou colocar num pc antigo aqui...aí pra saber se rolar com unity
[19:12] <cyber> procura na web ai o requisitos minimos que tem
[19:13] <cyber> mais se for fazer alguma coisa que requer muitos precessamentos graficos
[19:13] <cyber> n recomendo n
[19:31] <ule> alguem ai usa New Relic para monitorar servers?
[20:49] <astroo-> ola pessoal
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2015-04-07-#ubuntu-locoteams
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[00:51] <mhall119> BobJonkman: genii: I've created http://loco.ubuntu.com/events/global/3075/ for you
[00:51] <genii> mhall119: Thanks :)
[05:01] <Kilos> evening nhaines and other peeps in the states
[05:08] <Kilos> and morning to everyone else
[05:09] <Kilos> TaeheeJang well done
[05:09] <TaeheeJang> Kilos: haha you're welcome. Thankyou!
[05:10] <Kilos> any time
[05:11] <TaeheeJang> I'm talking with Karl Wortmann, and he will join IRC again.
[05:11] <Kilos> good
[06:11] <nhaines> Good evening, Kilos. :)
[06:11] <Kilos> :D
[06:24] <BobJonkman> Yay! Thanx, mhall119
[07:11] <boon> hello
[07:11] <Kilos> hi boon
[07:13] <boon> hi kilos.....anything good happening in the chat room or Wat
[07:14] <Kilos> very quiet here boon
[07:14] <Kilos> only new news is that korea have a running LoCo
[07:26] <Kilos> hi toddy
[07:26] <toddy> hi Kilos
[07:38] <Kilos> hi dpm
[09:58] <TaeheeJang> umm.. exactly korea team has operated by previous leader, and we voted new leader, and made a renewed council.
[09:59] <Kilos> at least its up and running again
[09:59] <Kilos> thats what counts
[10:00] <TaeheeJang> yes right. haha.
[10:00] <Kilos> get the guys to read and understand http://www.ubuntu.com/about/about-ubuntu/conduct
[10:01] <Kilos> its all about helping each other and working together
[10:01] <Kilos> the leader must lead by example
[10:01] <Kilos> then others enjoy following
[10:02] <TaeheeJang> yes i will. thx!
[15:59] <Kilos> hi PabloRubianes
[15:59] <PabloRubianes> hi Kilos
[16:24] <ShawnK> Hi
[16:24] <Kilos> hi ShawnK
[21:25] <wxl> nhaines: i forgot. did you say you were planning on coming to lfnw or oscon?
[21:38] <nhaines> wxl: I was thinking of coming to OSCON, but I'm not sure if my schedule will work out. I'll know after the end of the month.
[21:38] <wxl> nhaines: alright cool, well keep me in the loop. they haven't opened registration yet, so no rush, but i'm hoping to use lfnw as a dress rehearsal of sorts.
[21:39] <nhaines> Ooh, a good idea.
[21:41] <wxl> i gotta get my freaking pi2 set up already
[21:41] <wxl> if you're going to come to oscon, let me know and i'll leave the ubuntu phone side of things in your hands XD
[21:44] <nhaines> Haha, thanks! Yeah, I'll definitely keep you filled in. I had just been thinking about OSCON last week.
[21:46] <wxl> it would be nice to actually have the bq phone there rather than just my crappy old nexus 4 :)
[21:48] <nhaines> Hopefully that'll be something that Canonical can make happen by then. :) But the truth is that the two phones seem to work very similarly.
[21:48] <wxl> nhaines: i realize that but the officialness of it will certainly make those less personally familiar with ubuntu ooh and ahh :)
[21:50] <nhaines> I found that this actually seemed to be a secondary concern. A lot of people were happy to see Ubuntu on our N4s at SCALE and then just briefly look at or hold the bq phone before leaving.
[21:50] <nhaines> (This was a pleasant surprise.)
[21:52] <wxl> oh hm
[21:52] <wxl> kind of makes sense
[21:52] <wxl> and really the bq isn't marketed for the us, so that makes sense!
[21:52] <nhaines> Yeah. There was a lot of "When will this phone be available in the US?" "Never."
[21:53] <wxl> (aside: at first i didn't grok what you meant by n4 and thought there was some arm server i didn't know about) XD
[21:53] <wxl> never?
[21:53] <nhaines> Nope! The bq phone is Europe-only.
[21:53] <wxl> i thought canonical had announced there was to be an announcement
[21:53] <wxl> oh
[21:53] <wxl> not "touch" you mean "bq"
[21:53] <wxl> yeah, makes sense
[21:54] <nhaines> We had the "announcement in the next 6 months" timeframe back then, and I would surmrise with the attendee that a US-based phone would probably be speced more appropriately for US tastes.
[21:54] <wxl> the bq isn't 4g is it?
[21:55] <nhaines> It can do European HSPA+ but not US HSPA+ or LTE.
[21:55] <wxl> has lte even hit europe at all?
[21:55] <nhaines> Or 3G for that matter. So here it's 2G.
[21:55] <nhaines> I believe they've been using LTE for a while but the frequencies are different.
[21:55] <nhaines> I donno. I just buy Nexus phones so I don't have to worry about it.
[21:56] <wxl> heheh yeah
[21:56] <nhaines> Heck, T-Mobile doesn't even charge me for international data roaming anymore. :D
[21:56] <wxl> well i know that 3g is far more common there
[21:56] <nhaines> Or texts either, I think.
[21:56] <wxl> whereis here 4g is an expectation
[21:57] <nhaines> Yeah, I'd mention how great the phone is in the European market, and note how smooth and fast Ubuntu was on low-mid-end hardware.
[21:57] <wxl> hm so i'm probably using hspa+ with t-mobile
[21:57] <wxl> i didn't realize that
[21:57] <nhaines> So if the US wants a flagship phone, well, just think of how well Ubuntu will run on that.
[21:57] <wxl> yeah
[21:57] * wxl grins widely
[21:58] <nhaines> Regardless of the fact that it's true anyway, everyone seemed to buy into that.
[21:58] <wxl> how close is lte speed to hspa+?
[21:58] <nhaines> Or when someone asked how Ubuntu ran on the N5, I'd say "It's the best way to run Ubuntu if you hate Bluetooth."
[21:58] <wxl> hehehe
[21:58] <nhaines> HSPA+ is slower than LTE now but was faster than the first LTE phones out there.
[21:59] <wxl> interesting
[22:01] <wxl> according to https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_wireless_data_standards#Overview it seems that hspa+ has the potential to annihilate lte
[22:04] <nhaines> Probably, but everyone seems to have picked LTE anyway. :)
[22:09] <wxl> doesn't make sense to me considering we have to create new infrastructure
[22:09] <wxl> UNLESS it is proven tha ttechnically lte can exceed all possible improvements in hspa+
[22:11] <nhaines> Or if the hardware's cheaper. But when T-Mobile rolled out HSPA+ they made the towers software upgradeable to LTE.
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2015-04-07-#ubuntu-desktop
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[04:59] <pitti> Good morning
[06:06] <didrocks> good morning
[07:32] <pitti> bonjour didrocks, ça va ? as-tu eu des bonnes vacances ?
[07:33] <didrocks> Guten morgen pitti! ça va, on a mangé des glaces ce week-end ! Donc oui, bon week-end prolongé :)
[07:33] <didrocks> et toi ?
[07:34] <pitti> didrocks: ici aussi, nous avons eu un bon week-end avec nos familles et amis à Dresden
[07:34] <didrocks> pitti: vous êtes rentrés hier soir ?
[07:34] <pitti> didrocks: bien sûr nous avons mangé de la glace hier :-)
[07:34] <pitti> oui
[07:35] <larsu> hi pitti!
[07:35] <larsu> wie war dein ostern?
[07:36] <pitti> hey larsu! grossartig, wir waren viel Wandern und viel in Kneipen mit Freunden :)
[07:36] <pitti> larsu: und bei Dir?
[07:37] <larsu> pitti: auch schön. War viel bei meiner Familie (essen) und hab auch das Wetter genossen
[07:38] <pitti> didrocks: meh @ http://d-jenkins.ubuntu-ci:8080/view/Vivid/view/AutoPkgTest/job/vivid-adt-systemd/152/ARCH=amd64,label=adt/consoleText I'll have a look ASAP
[07:44] <didrocks> pitti: bah, that's weird with the patch applied… however, I must say I only tested with revert applied the plymouth case
[07:44] <didrocks> pitti: so, maybe something else changed the boot order in other ways?
[07:44] <didrocks> pitti: anyway, as it seems we are going to remove all this fsck code…
[07:45] <seb128> good morning desktopers
[07:47] <larsu> seb128: good morning! Did you already drive back home?
[07:48] <willcooke> Goooooood morning
[07:49] <larsu> hi willcooke!
[07:49] <larsu> how was easter?
[07:49] <didrocks> morning willcooke
[07:49] <willcooke> It was nice to have a break
[07:49] <willcooke> :)
[07:49] * didrocks avoid any chocolate! \o/
[07:49] <didrocks> avoided*
[07:49] <willcooke> :D
[07:49] <didrocks> willcooke: played with some arduino thing I saw!
[07:50] <seb128> hey willcooke
[07:50] <seb128> larsu, yeah, on thursday ;-)
[07:50] <seb128> hey larsu didrocks
[07:50] <willcooke> heh! Yeah, that was good fun - getting the soldering iron out again
[07:50] <didrocks> heh, nice ;)
[07:54] * seb128 wonders in what world didrocks is leaving
[07:55] <didrocks> what?
[07:55] <seb128> a world where not eating chocolat is something to cheers about
[07:55] <larsu> I hope didrocks isn't leaving this world
[07:55] <larsu> seb128: WAIT HE SAID THAT?
[07:55] * seb128 loves chocolate
[07:55] <didrocks> ;)
[07:55] <larsu> BLASPHEMY
[07:55] <seb128> INDEED
[07:55] * larsu grabs some chocolate to make the gods happy
[07:55] * seb128 does the same
[08:01] * ogra_ joins in *headshaking*
[08:02] <Laney> hullo
[08:02] <didrocks> you are so wrong guys!
[08:02] <didrocks> hey Laney, ogra_
[08:03] <pitti> didrocks: the test started to succeed after the revert of the hwdb-update dep
[08:04] <pitti> didrocks: I replied to the fsck thread yesterday, I don't want to give up on that yet
[08:04] <pitti> bonjour seb128, hey willcooke!
[08:04] <seb128> hey ogra_ and Laney
[08:04] <willcooke> hey pitti - awesome Northern Lights photos :)
[08:04] <pitti> willcooke: :)
[08:04] <ogra_> hey guys
[08:04] <pitti> hey ogra_, wie gehts? schoene Ostern gehabt?
[08:04] <didrocks> pitti: I don't find the situation and answers to be elegant TBH (and it can of screwed my week-end)
[08:04] <Laney> what's up?
[08:05] <ogra_> pitti, yup, du auch ?
[08:05] <didrocks> pitti: at least, we should start shipping the new patch in ubuntu I guess, I don't expect to see upstream behaving nicely on that one anymore…
[08:05] <willcooke> hey Laney - we need to do your review :)
[08:05] <Laney> HAHA
[08:05] <didrocks> pitti: but yeah, I saw your reply, thanks! mbiebl wanted to reply as well as he didn't like the answers as well
[08:05] <Laney> hopefully not in #ubuntu-desktop
[08:05] <willcooke> :D
[08:05] <Laney> "this guy sucks"
[08:06] <pitti> ogra_: ja, war super
[08:06] <didrocks> willcooke counter-signed Laney's comment
[08:06] <didrocks> DONE
[08:06] <didrocks> :p
[08:06] <pitti> didrocks: yes, that was a rather major communication/handling fail :/
[08:07] <larsu> morning Laney!
[08:07] <Laney> hey larsu
[08:07] <Laney> what's up?
[08:07] * Laney is feeling a bit s-l-o-w
[08:07] <larsu> dealing with --class issues like it's 4 weeks ago
[08:08] <Laney> oh yeah, this shit
[08:08] <larsu> how was your long weekend?
[08:08] <willcooke> Laney, on a massive sugar-come-down?
[08:09] <Laney> it was relatively chocolate free
[08:09] <didrocks> larsu: seb128: see ^^
[08:09] <Laney> but did actually end up eating a lot of normal food
[08:10] <Laney> my dad always cooks these huge buffet meals
[08:11] <Laney> ah, calendar says I am supposed to patch pilot
[08:11] <Laney> perfecto
[08:12] <seb128> :-)
[08:12] <seb128> Laney, don't tell me that, like didrocks, you are a chocolat hater?!
[08:13] <pitti> didrocks: as for reverting the After=hwdb-update thingy, I proposed an alternative on the upstream ML, and I think Lennart might even have committed that already (but fd.o seems to be down, so I can't check)
[08:13] <didrocks> we never used the term "hater"
[08:13] <seb128> didrocks, btw I was planning on visiting one of the best chocolat shops in London next time we are here, I guess you are not going to join :-/
[08:13] <didrocks> seb128: "moderate" is the right one :)
[08:13] <didrocks> seb128: I can totally join and even buy chocolate
[08:13] <pitti> didrocks: I didn't even try moving the hwdb-update dep to the udev-trigger.service thingy yet, but it ought to help
[08:13] <seb128> didrocks, well you cheers up at not eating chocolate :-)
[08:13] <didrocks> but a few and good ones :)
[08:13] <pitti> and, FWIW, chocolate++!
[08:13] <pitti> a life without chocolate is possible
[08:13] <pitti> ... but pointless!
[08:13] <ogra_> object oriented chocolate !
[08:14] <didrocks> pitti: yeah, that part, sounds like it's dealt now. (would be good to have it backported to the v219 stable branch)
[08:14] <didrocks> seb128: yeah, I cheered up at avoiding eating chocolate for easter!
[08:15] <Laney> just have a little bit of the best stuff :P
[08:15] <didrocks> +1
[08:15] <didrocks> but TBH, I prefer cheese and bread :p
[08:16] <ogra_> this like saying you dont eat chocolate on easter !! (me couldnt find a better metapher)
[08:16] <ogra_> *metaphor ...
[08:20] <Laney> :)
[08:40] <pitti> didrocks: ah, it's back -- http://cgit.freedesktop.org/systemd/systemd/commit/?id=d8f0930eec248c2
[08:41] <didrocks> pitti: good :)
[08:41] <pitti> didrocks: I can verify that with teh fsck autopkgtest, right?
[08:42] <didrocks> pitti: indeed
[09:12] <pitti> didrocks: ah, I can reproduce the failure in http://d-jenkins.ubuntu-ci:8080/view/Vivid/view/AutoPkgTest/job/vivid-adt-systemd/152/ARCH=amd64,label=adt/console , it seems to be a race
[09:13] <Laney> pitti: mind if I insert https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/systemd/+bug/1439109 into your mind box? :)
[09:14] <didrocks> pitti: ah, it can be yeah…
[09:14] <didrocks> pitti: I can have a look, just not now
[09:14] <pitti> Laney: the /run/network creation should have already been fixed earlier
[09:15] <pitti> Laney: most useful would probably be a "journalctl -b" from a failed boot
[09:15] <Laney> the /directory/ is there, but ifquery expects /run/network/ifstate
[09:15] <Laney> but this is just a segfault when querying anyway, not the cause of the interfaces not coming up
[09:15] <pitti> Laney: ah, ok; but ifup ought to create that, right?
[09:15] <Laney> & it's masked when they do come up because then ifup creates this file itself
[09:16] <Laney> so it's a segfault when you run ifquery with no interfaces
[09:17] <pitti> Laney: ah, so the failing wait-all-auto is a side issue only
[09:17] <pitti> didrocks: no worries, I was just saying that I get this too, so it's not CI env specific
[09:17] <popey> Don't suppose any of you have a 15.04 laptop with wired and wifi connected, and see this bug do you? It's absolutely doing my head in. bug 1441053
[09:17] <Laney> It just indicates that ifup@eth0 didn't happen
[09:19] <pitti> Laney: [email protected] and ifup-wait-all-auto are completely independent
[09:19] <pitti> Laney: so failure if wait-all-auto would start network-online.target too early, but that's apparently not the problem you are having
[09:19] <popey> Ooh, I like how we leak data about places someone has been in our bug reports :S https://launchpadlibrarian.net/202361816/nmcli-con.txt
[09:20] <Laney> Alright
[09:20] <pitti> Laney: there won't be uevents for adding the eth0 device in a container (I suppose), so /etc/init.d/networking should bring up eth0
[09:20] <pitti> Laney: thus "systemctl status -l networking" would be interesting
[09:21] <Laney> pitti: there
[09:21] <pitti> wow, it didn't even run
[09:22] <pitti> Laney: so that means nothing pulls in network.target?
[09:22] <pitti> Laney: systemctl status network.target is inactive too, I suppoe?
[09:22] <Laney> yep
[09:23] <seb128> popey, I've a 15.04 laptop docked with wifi and eth, no dropouts that I can tell
[09:23] <popey> :(
[09:23] <pitti> Laney: you ought to have a /run/systemd/generator.late/sysinit.target.wants/networking.service, do you?
[09:24] <Laney> pitti: apparmor.service ebtables.service qemu-kvm.service (no networking.service)
[09:24] <pitti> Laney: ah, wait
[09:24] <pitti> Apr 01 11:33:03 hostname systemd[1]: Failed to start LSB: AppArmor initialization.
[09:24] <pitti> Apr 01 11:33:03 hostname systemd[1]: apparmor.service failed.
[09:24] <pitti> I suppose that blocks a lot
[09:24] <popey> seb128: thanks for uh.. not confirming :)
[09:24] <seb128> popey, yw
[09:24] <seb128> popey, maybe try checking with cyphermox if he can help you
[09:24] <popey> will do.
[09:26] <Laney> pitti: This is weird in itself as I'm running with "lxc.aa_profile = unconfined"
[09:27] <pitti> Laney: right, but that's just the "outside" protection on the host
[09:27] <pitti> Laney: in the container, /etc/init.d/apparmor would still run
[09:28] <pitti> Laney: hm, ATM I can't even build a container on vivid
[09:29] <pitti> Failed to create root cgroup hierarchy: No such file or directory
[09:29] <pitti> Failed to allocate manager object: No such file or directory
[09:29] <pitti> [!!!!!!] Failed to allocate manager object, freezing.
[09:30] <pitti> Laney: so I suppose you get over that somehow?
[09:30] <pitti> Failed to mount cgroup at /sys/fs/cgroup/systemd: Permission denied
[09:30] <Laney> Not seen that one I'm afraid
[09:30] <Laney> I've had this built for $ages and just dist-upgraded it
[09:30] <pitti> apparmor="DENIED" operation="mount" info="failed type match" error=-13 profile="lxc-container-default" name="/sys/fs/cgroup/freezer/" pid=22598 comm="systemd" fstype="cgroup" srcname="cgroup" flags="rw, nosuid, nodev, noexec"
[09:30] <pitti> Laney: ah, maybe that's why you use "unconfined"?
[09:30] <Laney> apparmor -> "Permission denied; attempted to load a profile while confied?"
[09:31] <Laney> I forgot the reason, possibly something to do with using sbuild inside it
[09:31] <Laney> definitely quite historical
[09:31] <pitti> ack, unconfined works; so that's yet another problem
[09:32] <pitti> but networking.service runs for me
[09:32] <pitti> Laney: ah, my default container doesn't have apparmor installed; hang on, trying to install that
[09:32] <pitti> yep, that hangs
[09:33] <pitti> (and fails on boot)
[09:34] <pitti> ok, there's a lot of things wrong with lxc under vivid :/
[09:34] <pitti> err, with vivid under lxc
[09:35] <Laney> vivid over lxc under vivid
[09:35] <Laney> :)
[09:35] <pitti> Laney: does it help if you purge apparmor?
[09:36] <Laney> huh
[09:36] <Laney> actually it does not
[09:36] <Laney> systemctl --state=failed -> console-setup.service only now
[09:38] <pitti> Laney: ok, that's consistent with what I see here; apparmor fails, but networking.service still runs
[09:38] <pitti> Laney: can you attach "sudo journalctl -b" there?
[09:41] <Laney> pitti: done!
[09:43] <pitti> Laney: hm; just to double-check, do you actually have a /etc/rcS.d/*apparmor ?
[09:43] <pitti> Laney: err
[09:43] <pitti> Laney: /etc/rcS.d/*networking
[09:44] <Laney> pitti: nein
[09:44] <pitti> I wonder why the generator didn't produce a .service for it
[09:44] <pitti> Laney: a-ha!
[09:44] <pitti> Laney: now, that would be the problem then
[09:44] <Laney> but... why?
[09:48] <pitti> Laney: (if you were asking me -- no idea..)
[09:49] <Laney> I was more muttering into the air
[09:50] <Laney> hmm
[09:50] <Laney> laney@vivid> sudo update-rc.d networking defaults ~
[09:50] <Laney> sudo: unable to resolve host vivid
[09:50] <Laney> insserv: warning: current start runlevel(s) (empty) of script `networking' overrides LSB defaults (S).
[11:02] <Laney> insserv's code is pretty hard to grok
[11:36] <Sweet5hark> uhm, so how is this ubuntu snappy thingie supposed to work? I tried to walk through libreoffice dependencies with "sudo snappy install <foo>" and "sudo snappy search <foo>" as suggested by http://developer.ubuntu.com/en/snappy/ , but since none of those yield anything for "gcc"/"g++" this is either a joke or Im doing it really wrong. Any hints?
[11:36] <Sweet5hark> I mean without that, what is the stable toolchain on which the stuff that is there is even build?
[11:37] <ogra_> Sweet5hark, heh, snaps are not debs :)
[11:37] <ogra_> you cant just replace apt commands with snappy calls
[11:38] <ogra_> a snap has to either ship all deps inside or there needs to be a framework it uses ... since frameworks are not completely there yet you would have to create a LibO snap with all deps included (or a static build)
[11:38] <ogra_> Sweet5hark, there is #snappy btw
[11:39] <Sweet5hark> ogra_: the liked page mostly suggests so. Anyway: "sudo snappy search gcc" and "sudo snappy search c++" suggests no C++11 compiler there? so ahem, what is the baseline?
[11:40] <ogra_> the baseline is ubuntu-core currently ...
[11:40] <ogra_> which means "just enough to boot and make the snappy command work"
[11:41] <ogra_> everything above that is either a framework or a snap shipping its own deps
[11:43] <ogra_> you dont build *on* snappy, so a comiler would be kind of useless
[11:43] <ogra_> (well, you can build on snappy, but would need a chroot inside some writable area)
[11:48] <seb128> ok, I'm off for most of the afternoon, see you later
[11:49] <Sweet5hark> ogra_: ok, so you build "elsewhere" -- so what is the "elsewhere" that we will support over the lifetime of snappy? just plain Ubuntu desktop? That is why I ask about baseline: Just repackaging binaries from some dpkg baseline isnt too hard -- but that ensures that snappy will never replace classical *.debs as it will be build on it.
[11:50] <ogra_> binary debs will be used to assemble snaps ...
[11:51] <ogra_> but debs are not (and will never be) supported on snappy itself
[12:11] <Sweet5hark> ogra_: Im mostly just confused about the point of this whole exercise, if we will need to support both debs and snaps to eternity with this ...
[12:14] <ogra_> no, debs will at some point in teh future most likely just come straight from debian, we will go on maintaining the archive and flavours will still be able to build their images etc
[12:14] <ogra_> there will be an overlap for some time though ...
[12:15] <ogra_> as for a LibO snap, i think you want to wait til we have at least some basic frameworks (Mir, some toolkit ... ) available ... not sure what the satatus is for that, ask in #snappy
[12:16] <ogra_> *status
[12:16] <Sweet5hark> ogra_: k, thx
[12:52] <Trevinho> larsu: what would you say about backporting https://git.gnome.org/browse/gtk+/commit/?id=5ced234144ce63decbf5afc8a3517290b9027018 until I don't get rid of the compiz beast?
[12:53] <larsu> Trevinho: I guess this adds decorations everywhere?
[12:53] <Trevinho> well, it should...
[12:54] <Trevinho> larsu: not sure how it handles stuff (buttons and other contrrols=) addded to the CSDs..
[12:54] <Trevinho> larsu: as that is handled elsewhere
[12:58] <larsu> Trevinho: seems to, yeah
[12:58] <larsu> I guess that's what we should do then
[12:58] <larsu> Laney: have an opinion? ^
[12:59] <larsu> brb, changing location
[14:00] <Laney> larsu: what effect does this have?
[14:26] <larsu> Laney: havn't tried it myself, but from the looks of it it always adds a decoration
[14:32] <Laney> larsu: we're not going to get double decorations anywhere?
[14:33] <larsu> Laney: still haven't tried it
[14:34] <Laney> :P
[14:34] <larsu> in theory, gtk should unset show-close-button
[14:36] <Laney> hmm
[14:36] <Laney> looks like this function got renamed "supports_client_shadow" in master
[14:36] <Laney> that's more reassuring
[14:37] <larsu> yes, because they assume everyone supports csd now
[14:37] <larsu> at least according to the commit Trevinho linked
[14:39] <Laney> I was worried that gtk might decide to draw the headerbar inside a server side window
[14:39] <Laney> there's gnome bug #746222
[14:40] <larsu> Laney: right, we'd be option (2) from comment #3
[14:40] <Laney> I think we fall into the "custom titlebar" case
[14:40] <larsu> this is in 3.16 only though, right?
[14:41] <Laney> ya
[14:42] <Laney> sounds like we might need this patch too, for xfce if nobody else
[14:43] <larsu> right
[15:30] <willcooke> dingalingaling
[15:30] <didrocks> hey
[15:30] <willcooke> It's meeting time
[15:30] <willcooke> #startmeeting Ubuntu Desktop Weekly Meeting 2015-04-07
[15:30] <meetingology> Meeting started Tue Apr 7 15:30:35 2015 UTC. The chair is willcooke. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology.
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[15:30] <willcooke> #topic Roll Call
[15:30] <willcooke> Roll call: attente, desrt, dgadomski, didrocks, fjkong, happyaron, laney, larsu, qengho, Sweet5hark, seb128
[15:30] <willcooke> Not around: seb128, tkampetter, themuso, robert_ancell
[15:30] <larsu> \o
[15:31] <dgadomski> o/
[15:31] <attente> o/
[15:31] <qengho> /sup.
[15:31] <Laney> :-o
[15:31] <qengho> 'sup.
[15:31] <Sweet5hark> o/
[15:31] <larsu> Laney looks surprised
[15:31] <willcooke> Hi everyone! I'm back from travels, holidays, unexpected meetings, and all the other things which have kept me away from the meeting.
[15:31] <willcooke> Let's get this show on the road...
[15:31] <larsu> welcome back!
[15:32] <willcooke> #topic attente
[15:32] <willcooke> attente, you've lost your _
[15:32] <attente> oh, it's missing
[15:32] <willcooke> Is that soo last (fiscal) year?
[15:32] <attente> weird
[15:32] <attente> not much from me, on leave for the past week :)
[15:32] <willcooke> Hope you had a restful time
[15:32] <willcooke> welcome back
[15:33] <attente> thanks
[15:33] <willcooke> #topic desrt
[15:34] <willcooke> moving on in 1 min
[15:35] <willcooke> we can come back if you're around in a bit desrt
[15:35] * Sweet5hark wonders where seb is
[15:35] <willcooke> #topic dgadomski
[15:35] <dgadomski> hey
[15:35] <willcooke> (Sweet5hark, he pinged me earlier, he's out this afternoon)
[15:35] <larsu> Sweet5hark: traveling between fr and nl
[15:36] <dgadomski> was on CTS sprint Mar 23-27, took some time off last week
[15:36] <dgadomski> backported fix for trusty to bug #1124250, accepted, waiting for release
[15:36] <dgadomski> tested bug #1104230 on Vivid - looks like DisplayPort MST works out of the box, so using Vivid HWE kernel in trusty will fix it for that series
[15:36] <dgadomski> fix to #1020210 released to -proposed, under users' verification
[15:36] <dgadomski> ^ that is bug #1020210
[15:37] <dgadomski> and beside those I'm all good :)
[15:37] <willcooke> wow! Busy! Thanks dgadomski
[15:37] <willcooke> #topic didrocks
[15:37] <didrocks> hey
[15:37] <didrocks> Ubuntu make:
[15:37] <didrocks> - releasing 0.6.1, providing updated and new translations
[15:37] <didrocks> - bugs triaging
[15:37] <didrocks> Systemd:
[15:37] <didrocks> - systemd bisection between 160 commits! and guilty commits found and reverted for autopkgtests starting to fail on amd64
[15:37] <didrocks> - Help debugging autopkgtests i386 issues (was in the end an infra/qemu issue)
[15:37] <didrocks> - Help debugging the .override issues (on vivid and rtm) for Touch
[15:37] <didrocks> - whoopsie-preferences fixes to only disable it when "manual" is in the terminal
[15:38] <didrocks> - discussion on triggers daemon-reload and such
[15:38] <didrocks> - cloud-init fix for bug #1438520
[15:38] <didrocks> Misc:
[15:38] <didrocks> - patch pilot
[15:38] <didrocks> .
[15:38] <didrocks> ah, and - one day less (Monday was off here)
[15:39] <willcooke> thanks didrocks
[15:39] <willcooke> #topic FJKong
[15:39] <willcooke> Are you around FJKong ?
[15:39] <FJKong> yes
[15:39] <willcooke> Good evening :)
[15:40] <FJKong> sogu IM bug tracking anal th core dump file
[15:40] <FJKong> qing ming Festival for 3days
[15:40] <FJKong> pinyin convert: do some db research
[15:41] <FJKong> that's all
[15:41] <FJKong> EOF
[15:41] <willcooke> thanks FJKong
[15:42] <willcooke> #topic happyaron
[15:42] <willcooke> happyaron, are you around?
[15:42] * willcooke expects not, so moving on it 1 min...
[15:43] <willcooke> #topic Laney
[15:43] <Laney> • Short (3 day) week due to hols
[15:43] <Laney> • Did some debugging on bug #1439109 - seems to be in insserv but its code is hard to follow, continuing to look.
[15:43] <Laney> • Updates: libsoup2.4 gvfs eog
[15:44] <Laney> • Sponsoring & testing of apturl which was using deleted icon names & crashing
[15:44] <Laney> • Some small work on the gnome-terminal wrapper, need to re-upload it
[15:44] <Laney> • Queue reviews and such
[15:44] <Laney> • Look at bug #1437633, try to fix, find out fix doesn't work - g_file_set_contents() is basically not usable on our phone setup.
[15:44] <Laney> ♬
[15:44] * Laney was waiting with ctrl-k
[15:44] <willcooke> thanks Laney
[15:44] <willcooke> #topic larsu
[15:44] <larsu> hey
[15:44] <larsu> - still didn't feel well last week and had a very short week due to easter holidays Friday and Monday
[15:45] <larsu> - looked into gedit's squiggly spell checking line not working - no fix yet
[15:45] <larsu> - looked into supporting --class again in gnome-terminal - fix upcoming shortly
[15:45] <larsu> - booked travel etc.
[15:45] <larsu> ×
[15:45] <willcooke> thx larsu - hope you're on the mend
[15:45] <larsu> yup!
[15:45] <willcooke> #topic qengho
[15:45] <qengho> - merging old flash-installer and new native flash package for PES.
[15:45] <qengho> - testing Cr 41.0.2272.118. security update. supporting Precise again, hopefully.
[15:45] <qengho> - neglecting email.
[15:45] <qengho> EOF
[15:46] <willcooke> thx qengho
[15:46] <willcooke> #topic Sweet5hark
[15:46] <Sweet5hark> - easter holidays
[15:46] <Sweet5hark> - had a look and browsed through errors.ubuntu.com stats and traces (noticed the page doesnt seem to show data from PPA versions anymore, which is unhelpful at least for me)
[15:46] <Sweet5hark> - patch backporting
[15:46] <Sweet5hark> - some upstream coding and review
[15:46] <Sweet5hark> - some snappy playing: not much use yet though without some basing infrastructure (e.g. X11 or a toolkit to run on)
[15:46] <Sweet5hark> EOF
[15:46] <Sweet5hark> s/basing/basic/
[15:47] <willcooke> thx Sweet5hark
[15:47] <willcooke> #topic willcooke
[15:47] <willcooke> No updates from other folk, assuming Easter got in the way
[15:48] <willcooke> One public service announcement, if you haven’t already, please get a travel request done and also add your details to the spreadsheet.
[15:48] <willcooke> I'll send a link round in a moment
[15:48] <willcooke> I'm putting the schedule together now
[15:48] <Laney> can we pencil some time in thursday afternoon to go join the office for release?
[15:48] <willcooke> I won't put in too much detail, because it wont work out, but I will have a list of expected outcomes
[15:48] <willcooke> Laney, great plan - I'll do that now...
[15:49] <didrocks> first release at the office \o/
[15:49] <willcooke> :D
[15:49] * didrocks is excited
[15:49] <Laney> first actual release party ...
[15:49] <Laney> assuming there is one
[15:49] <willcooke> Not sure it'll be the classic example of a party, but let's see
[15:50] <willcooke> ok, we're done.
[15:50] <willcooke> thanks everyone
[15:50] <willcooke> #endmeeting
[15:50] <meetingology> Meeting ended Tue Apr 7 15:50:11 2015 UTC.
[15:50] <meetingology> Minutes: http://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/ubuntu-desktop/2015/ubuntu-desktop.2015-04-07-15.30.moin.txt
[15:50] <ochosi> larsu, Laney: are you planning on adding the CSD for non-composited WMs (the one you linked to before) to 15.04?
[15:52] <Laney> ochosi: thinking about it
[15:52] <Laney> do you have a thought?
[15:53] <ochosi> well i haven't tested it, but it'd certainly be a nice addition for us
[15:53] <ochosi> it's not critical, so if you're having second thoughts i guess we can wait until 15.10
[15:53] <ochosi> (the author of the patch is the author of xfwm4 though, so i'm sure it'll work just fine for us)
[15:54] <Laney> the two should be mitigation for the frame extents issue under unity
[15:55] <ochosi> right, that would make sense
[15:55] <ochosi> but ofc i haven't tested that either
[15:56] * happyaron back...
[15:56] * happyaron most of last week was on holidays..
[15:57] * happyaron and this tuesday is the first non-holiday day
[15:57] <Sweet5hark> willcooke: just double checking, since I cant remember seeing it explicit anywhere: hotel is centrally booked for the London sprint?
[16:06] <didrocks> Sweet5hark: sure, it is
[16:09] <willcooke> Sweet5hark, yes indeed
[16:24] <Sweet5hark> didrocks, willcooke: thanks.
[16:38] <willcooke> going afk, back later probably
[16:38] <seb128> hey desktopers, sorry I missed the meeting, there was evening traffic jams :-/
[16:38] <willcooke> (although it's pretty much eod)
[16:38] <willcooke> hi seb128, bye seb128
[16:38] <seb128> willcooke, have a good evening ;-)
[16:38] <willcooke> :D
[17:08] <excalibr> People is there some undocumented way to force unity to reload/rebuild its application cache in apps scope?
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[07:51] <ochosi> morning folks
[08:52] <brainwash> ali12341: do you know something about transmission and it's indicator menu? bug 1440992
[10:09] <ali12341> done
[10:11] <brainwash> ali12341: thanks
[10:22] <brainwash> elfy: is bug 1437180 still present? no one else has confirmed it yet in the report
[10:23] <ochosi> not sure but i thought bluesabre mentioned the same thing too
[10:24] <ochosi> if someone confirms it we should add it to the bugs blueprint
[10:25] <brainwash> it's already linked to the blueprint
[10:25] <brainwash> but there is no progress
[10:31] <ochosi> i'm unsure what we can do about it and why it didn't happen in the first place, i.e. when xfdesktop was added to our ubiquity session to draw the wallpaper
[10:32] <ochosi> the most straight-forward solution would be to replace xfdesktop with feh
[10:32] <ochosi> bluesabre: thoughts on this? ^
[10:32] <brainwash> ideally yes
[10:33] <brainwash> Unit193 has tested ubiquity with xfdesktop, so he should have noticed the icons I'd guess
[10:34] <brainwash> or maybe "it's not a bug, it's a feature" :)
[10:52] <bluesabre> xfdesktop wasn't recently added to ubiquity to draw the wallpaper, we've used it for years
[10:53] <bluesabre> the black background was due to it becoming a zombie process as I recall
[10:53] <bluesabre> and a newer xfdesktop release gave us desktop icons
[10:55] <bluesabre> I'd say its a bug, albeit minor, and I would not be opposed to switching to feh to draw the ubiquity background in 15.10, since that desktop doesn't do anything else
[11:05] <brainwash> bluesabre: is there some config file for xfdesktop when run in live mode? or are any parameters passed?
[11:05] <brainwash> I assume that the right click context menu works also
[11:05] <bluesabre> I'm not sure
[11:06] <brainwash> so, switching to feh would be the best option
[11:06] <bluesabre> I just know that we changed nothing except a new xfdesktop and started seeing icons
[11:24] <elfy> question re feh, currently if you start install and quit - the live media boots to the livesession - that going to get affected?
[11:28] <ochosi> bluesabre: yeah, i'd also say it's minor and prolly too late to switch to feh now
[11:29] <ochosi> but yeah, everything else (context menus) works with xfdesktop in the live session
[11:29] <ochosi> which means ppl can basically run any programme they want or even use multiple workspaces...
[11:29] <ochosi> so apart from the panel, there's little diff between the install only and the live session atm
[11:30] <elfy> which begs the question why do it then?
[11:30] <elfy> and also begs the other 'why test installs from install and not try' question too :)
[11:31] <elfy> ochosi: btw - 2 different names for the QA incentive this time :)
[11:32] <elfy> https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1dcx6FX9I7uS5lTUPUlldQkexpGN8syNeunDVrsVnRRk/edit?pli=1#gid=498196131
[11:32] <knome> woot :)
[11:34] <elfy> yep, I was pleased too ;)
[11:34] <bluesabre> nice
[11:34] <elfy> hi bluesabre :)
[11:35] <bluesabre> elfy: the live session won't be affected, it would only be the ubiquity installer session that would use feh, live desktop would be normal
[11:35] <bluesabre> hey elfy
[11:35] <bluesabre> :)
[11:36] <elfy> bluesabre: you misunderstand slightly, start livemedia, accidentally hit install
[11:37] <elfy> quit - you get to the livesession
[11:37] <elfy> with feh and not xfdesktop - what happens in that scenario?
[11:39] <ochosi> elfy: that looks great! (re: qa incentive)
[11:39] <ochosi> we should definitely blog a roundup of this
[11:39] <ochosi> that will hopefully further motivate people
[11:39] <bluesabre> if I recall, the installer is its own session, so when you quit that, all open apps are closed, then the desktop session is started, so feh is closed and xfdesktop is started
[11:40] <elfy> bluesabre: ok - thanks :)
[11:40] <elfy> ochosi: yea - was contemplating doing so *just* before RC/Final Release - hoping to drag a few extras in then
[11:41] <ochosi> good idea
[11:42] <elfy> I have them sometimes
[11:42] <ochosi> :)P
[11:42] * bluesabre wishes he had them more often
[11:42] <elfy> I'd share mine bluesabre - but it's 2015 and I've only had one since 1999
[11:43] <elfy> luckily my 3 kids never read this oldfashioned irc stuff :p
[11:49] <bluesabre> lol
[11:57] <ochosi> bluesabre: you back at work or still on easter break?
[11:58] <bluesabre> easter break for me was saturday/sunday :)
[11:59] <ochosi> oh right :)
[11:59] <bluesabre> sorry Unit193, won't be able to make it to your meeting, but feel free to leave pings for me on anything that needs uploaded
[12:00] <bluesabre> I'll be doing a greeter-settings translations release/upload today, and maybe one for x-d-s if the workaround for the greeter white-screen works
[12:02] <ochosi> great!
[12:02] <ochosi> thanks bluesabre
[14:10] <ochosi> brainwash, elfy: just confirmed the xfdesktop icon bug in today's daily build and also noted that in the bugreport
[14:12] <ochosi> brainwash: since you've been poking xfdesktop a bit lately, any clue why the icons started appearing? my best guess so far is that our default settings weren't loaded correctly or at all before
[14:21] <ochosi> bluesabre: ok, i added an idea for a workaround: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xubuntu-default-settings/+bug/1437180 (it's not pretty, but sorta okayish for 15.04)
[14:23] <elfy> ochosi: did you look at the incentive spreadsheet for the names - if so happy for me to announce them tonight ?
[14:23] <elfy> if you didn't can you - or trust me lol
[14:23] <ochosi> i did and i am! :)
[14:23] <elfy> you can't - QA team #info :D
[14:23] <ochosi> wasn't aware that you wanted/needed an ack (yeah, i do trust you ;))
[14:23] <elfy> well - as xpl I guess you should do one or the other :p
[14:24] <ochosi> yeah, since i've become xpl my feelings have turned binary. i either feel one thing or the other :)
[14:24] <knome> ochosi, no kidding.. :P
[14:25] <elfy> ha ha
[14:25] <ochosi> well either kidding or no kidding. there's no "kidding you a little" for me
[14:26] * knome slips a whoopee cushion on ochosi's bench
[14:26] <ochosi> thanks, i've wanted one of those for ages!
[14:26] <knome> haha :)
[14:26] * elfy removes the tacks from the cushion
[14:27] <elfy> bad knome
[14:27] <knome> i don't put tacks on whoopee cushions :P
[14:27] <knome> there are problems with them though
[14:27] <knome> the small ones give a pathetic sound
[14:27] <elfy> :)
[14:27] <elfy> yea for sure
[14:27] <knome> and the large ones are impossible to hide...
[19:27] <knome> slickymaster, FYI, we have some strings landing at some point soon for the slideshow once the template from jacks changes propagates back after an upload
[20:00] <Unit193> #startmeeting
[20:00] <meetingology> Meeting started Tue Apr 7 20:00:18 2015 UTC. The chair is Unit193. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology.
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[20:00] <Unit193> #chair knome
[20:00] <meetingology> Current chairs: Unit193 knome
[20:00] <Unit193> Howdy everyone.
[20:00] <elfy> evening
[20:00] <Unit193> welcome to the Xubuntu community meeting. Agenda: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Xubuntu/Meetings
[20:01] <Unit193> Anyone else around? If not, this'll be nice and short.
[20:01] <Unit193> #topic Open action items
[20:01] <elfy> who knows
[20:02] <Unit193> elfy: Did we tie up everything for xubuntu-core testing?
[20:02] <elfy> afaik
[20:02] <Unit193> Great, same here. I didn't see anything else needing testing.
[20:02] <Unit193> #done Unit193 to tie up with elfy for xubuntu-core upgrade testing needs
[20:02] <Unit193> #done elfy to add the "game issue" into the meeting agenda
[20:03] <Unit193> knome: Did you talk to ochosi about setting up a team vote?
[20:04] * ochosi doesn't recall being talked to
[20:04] * Unit193 gives ochosi a stern talking to.
[20:04] <ochosi> but it couldn have happened a longer time ago so maybe i don't remember
[20:04] <Unit193> Alright, we'll carry forward...
[20:04] <ochosi> team vote about what?
[20:05] <Unit193> "ACTION: knome to follow up with ochosi on setting up a team vote - or allowing more time for discussion"
[20:05] <Unit193> That's what I see.
[20:05] <ochosi> yeah, i know
[20:05] <ochosi> but no topic
[20:05] <Unit193> That's all I know.
[20:05] <ochosi> awesome :)
[20:05] <elfy> another one of those carried forward ad infinitum that we've all forgotten the topic off now?
[20:05] <ochosi> i guess i'll just "allow more time for discussion" :D
[20:06] <elfy> ha ha ha
[20:06] <Unit193> #nick knome
[20:06] <Unit193> #action knome to follow up with ochosi on setting up a team vote - or allowing more time for discussion
[20:06] <meetingology> ACTION: knome to follow up with ochosi on setting up a team vote - or allowing more time for discussion
[20:06] <Unit193> #topic Team updates
[20:06] <Unit193> Free for all, any updatese?
[20:06] <elfy> perhaps there should be a #action make the agenda make sense ...
[20:07] <slickymaster> sorry for being late guys, but it's dinner time over here and the little doesn't make any compromises
[20:07] <ochosi> #info ochosi pushed some fixes to Greybird, but likely too minor for 15.04
[20:07] <elfy> #info testing for b2 went ok, bugs about - more global than us
[20:07] <elfy> #info figures in for QA incentive
[20:07] <ochosi> #info ochosi prepared a (hacky) patch for ubiquity-dm to hide the desktop icons in bug #1437180
[20:07] <Unit193> #info exo and thunar fixes uploaded to vivid.
[20:08] <Unit193> ochosi: Ah good.
[20:08] <elfy> #info March sticker pack winner is PaulW2U
[20:08] <elfy> #info Final Beta sticker pack winner is saqman2060
[20:08] <elfy> #action elfy to tie up with pleia2 re contacting them both
[20:08] <meetingology> ACTION: elfy to tie up with pleia2 re contacting them both
[20:09] <ochosi> if any of you wanna chime in about the ubiquity-dm fix, feel free to get in touch
[20:09] <elfy> ?
[20:10] <slickymaster> I had some #info items, but I don't know now where I placed them :P
[20:10] <ochosi> elfy: well i dunno, if you have an opinion on it etc
[20:10] <elfy> oh
[20:10] <elfy> the icon issue?
[20:10] <ochosi> yeah
[20:11] <elfy> I only really had one thing to find out - and bluesabre put my mind at rest
[20:11] <ochosi> the question (partly) is: is the situation bad enough that we want a hacky fix pushed that we'll have to revert in 15.10
[20:11] <Unit193> We could move this to discussions. :P
[20:11] <micahg> is there a bug in xfdesktop?
[20:11] <elfy> I would agree they look a bit daft - but maybe better to leave well alone over the next 3 weeks
[20:12] <knome> i'm here.
[20:12] <ochosi> Unit193: agreed, let's discuss it a bit later (also re: micahg :) )
[20:12] <Unit193> #topic Discussion items
[20:12] <Unit193> ochosi: Want a subtopic right now?
[20:12] <pleia2> elfy: thanks, happy to ship off the stickers this week
[20:12] <ochosi> Unit193: yeah, let's do that
[20:13] <Unit193> #subtopic Desktop Icons show on the install only desktop
[20:13] <Unit193> ochosi: Have at it.
[20:13] <elfy> pleia2: cool - I'll mail them as QA and cc you in as we did last time
[20:13] * pleia2 thumbs up
[20:13] <elfy> :)
[20:13] <ochosi> ok, so the problem is quite easily explained, we use xfdesktop to draw the wallpaper in our ubiquity install-only session
[20:14] <ochosi> in 15.10 we'll likely switch to feh for drawing the wallpaper
[20:14] <ochosi> just makes more sense, xfdesktop has far too many features and all we really want is a wallpaper below ubiquity
[20:14] <ochosi> so the diff i attached on the bugreport basically switches the icons on the desktop setting off via an xfconf-query call
[20:15] <ochosi> it's really not a pretty solution
[20:15] <ochosi> but it'll do the trick
[20:15] <ochosi> micahg: thoughts? ^
[20:16] <micahg> if that's the best option and only affects us, I think that's fine
[20:16] <ochosi> tbh i don't know about "best"
[20:16] <ochosi> but the release date is closing in on us, and we might want a fix
[20:16] <Unit193> micahg: By default, it'll affect Studio too. Myth doesn't release except for LTSes though.
[20:17] <ochosi> yeah, that's true
[20:17] <Unit193> Generally speaking, studio is less concerned with the desktop, and more interested in a/v.
[20:17] <micahg> looks relatively harmless
[20:17] <ochosi> yeah, i tested the xfconf command in a ubiquity live session
[20:18] <ochosi> actually there's even a second setting i would change, but i don't want to add another 6 lines for almost nothing
[20:18] <ochosi> (disable the right-click menu on the desktop, which allows launching of any other app)
[20:18] <Unit193> Racy?
[20:19] <ochosi> well, possibly
[20:19] <ochosi> you mean in case xfsettingsd hasnt started yet?
[20:19] <ochosi> dunno whether these commands are called synchronously or async
[20:20] <ochosi> generally speaking, calling xfsettingsd and then xfdesktop could also be considered racy
[20:20] <ochosi> brb
[20:21] <Unit193> Alright, well either way bluesabre isn't here, so.
[20:21] <micahg> let's keep an eye on timing, final freeze is next week
[20:22] <Unit193> #action ochosi to get in touch with bluesabre about the patch for ubiquity, and xfdesktop icons.
[20:22] <meetingology> ACTION: ochosi to get in touch with bluesabre about the patch for ubiquity, and xfdesktop icons.
[20:22] <Unit193> Any other remarks on this topic?
[20:22] <elfy> not from me
[20:22] <micahg> the trick with patching ubiquity is if there's a problem later, it's much harder to change
[20:22] <Unit193> Indeed.
[20:22] <micahg> just FYI
[20:22] <Unit193> #subtopic GIMP in the default seed (mailing list discussion)
[20:23] <micahg> ooh, idr seeing that
[20:23] <Unit193> knome: ^
[20:23] <knome> nnniiiice.
[20:24] <knome> well, it's the mailing list discussion.
[20:24] <Unit193> https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/xubuntu-devel/2015-January/010560.html
[20:24] <knome> i don't think there is a conclusion
[20:24] <micahg> oh, was a while ago
[20:25] <elfy> yea - these have been dragging their heels, mostly because 15.10
[20:25] <ochosi> back
[20:25] <knome> the gimp discussion wasn't also very long
[20:25] <Unit193> Same discussion every time, it's overkill, but there's no good simple editors.
[20:25] <knome> i think the thing that we know now (again) is that there isn't really a suitable replacement, because there really isn't
[20:25] <knome> yep
[20:25] <dkessel> Is pinta an option?
[20:25] <Unit193> No.
[20:25] <knome> so maybe the question is: does the still want to stick with GIMP?
[20:26] <knome> *the team
[20:26] <knome> or is it a valid option to drop it
[20:26] <Unit193> dkessel: There were a couple reasons, but mono is the biggest one.
[20:26] <micahg> pinta will pull in mono
[20:26] <ochosi> knome: what would be your main argument for dropping it?
[20:26] <Unit193> micahg: o/\o
[20:26] <dkessel> ok
[20:26] <knome> ochosi, it's huge, it's much more than a regular user needs
[20:27] <slickymaster> what about MyPaint?
[20:27] <knome> i don't think it has ever specifically contributed to the "xubuntu experience", we've been shipping it because some users and team members like it shipped
[20:28] * Unit193
[20:28] <micahg> Description-en: paint program for use with graphics tablets
[20:29] <micahg> ?
[20:29] <Unit193> http://mypaint.info/
[20:29] <knome> micahg, that's misleading, but it's not like gimp, it's a drawing app more than an image editor
[20:29] <slickymaster> thanks Unit193
[20:29] <ochosi> yeah, the gimp does both
[20:29] <Unit193> The pictures are scaring me.
[20:29] <knome> micahg, and it is better with graphic tablets.
[20:30] <Unit193> So, seems to be something we're not looking at.
[20:30] <ochosi> so we'd have to first think what aspect of gimp we'd like to replace with *something*
[20:30] <micahg> yes
[20:30] * knome facepalms
[20:30] <knome> that discussion has come and gone
[20:30] <ochosi> yeah :)
[20:30] <knome> you can refer to the old comparison in the wiki
[20:30] <Unit193> Yes,and ristretto still hasn't learned how to resize. :P
[20:30] <ochosi> it probably would make sense to do one of those
[20:30] <knome> the fact is that there is no suitable app that does it
[20:31] <knome> it being the features we want to replace in gimp
[20:31] <Unit193> So while it's overkill, it does what we need and can't find something else to do it.
[20:31] <knome> but instead of shipping the huge gimp because there isn't an alternative, and kind of giving up, why don't we drop it?
[20:32] <micahg> xpaint seems to have the same "features" in th wiki
[20:33] <ochosi> we could also switch back to shipping gthumb and drop ristretto and gimp
[20:34] <genii> Too bad theres no gimp-minimal
[20:34] <Unit193> Meh, always thought gthumb was useless.
[20:34] <knome> micahg, no version update since precise
[20:34] <micahg> isn't it a little late in the cycle to be updating seeds?
[20:34] <knome> yeah, let's not reintroduce gthumb
[20:34] <Unit193> micahg: For wombat.
[20:34] <micahg> ah
[20:34] <Unit193> I'd like to table this so we can move on to the next disucssion that's neverending. :P
[20:35] <knome> ochosi, we can write a small script set that allowed the user to handle their images from thunar
[20:35] <knome> ochosi, just link that to a custom action for all images.
[20:35] <knome> resize, rotate, you name it
[20:35] <ochosi> you mean via imagemagick?
[20:35] <knome> yep.
[20:36] <knome> those who need more complex tools can install one from the repositories
[20:36] <dkessel> +1
[20:36] <ochosi> we can also try to add those features to ristretto at some point
[20:36] <knome> imagemagick can even write text
[20:36] <knome> so you can do a lolcat generator
[20:37] <ochosi> ouch
[20:37] <micahg> what about shutter?
[20:37] <knome> well i mean, wasn't that one of our prerequisites for the iamge editor...
[20:37] <knome> micahg, the right place to do proposals for apps is the mailing list thread
[20:38] <knome> i don't think it's a good use of everybody's time to mull over those in a meeting
[20:38] <Unit193> We're discussing it now. :P
[20:38] <ochosi> isn't that a screenshot tool?
[20:38] <micahg> yes, but it does have a nice editor in it
[20:38] <ochosi> oh
[20:38] <ochosi> i didn't know about that
[20:38] <micahg> 2 for 1 :)
[20:38] <knome> we have the xfce screenshooter..
[20:39] <Unit193> Description does seem very screenshooter centric.
[20:39] <knome> Unit193, and their website is awful without js..
[20:40] <dkessel> Doesn't look like it can open existing files, or can it?
[20:41] <micahg> yes, it can
[20:42] <ochosi> generally speaking, i don't mind dropping one of our apps for 15.10, also in terms of getting user feedback (i know, the vocal minority and all, but better than no feedback)
[20:42] <knome> set up a team vote and get on with it.
[20:42] <knome> :
[20:42] <knome> :)
[20:43] <ochosi> we can do one now if you guys and gals agree that that's a good idea :)
[20:43] <ochosi> it's sorta funky timing with 15.04 not even released, but whatever
[20:44] <elfy> it'll get some votes done, rest of team can vote on m/l
[20:44] * slickymaster agrees with elfy
[20:44] <knome> wfm
[20:45] <knome> Unit193, shall you set the poll up?
[20:45] <Unit193> #vote Drop The GIMP from the default seed
[20:45] <meetingology> Please vote on: Drop The GIMP from the default seed
[20:45] <meetingology> Public votes can be registered by saying +1, +0 or -1 in channel, (for private voting, private message me with 'vote +1/-1/+0 #channelname)
[20:45] <knome> does +1 mean drop?
[20:45] <ochosi> yeah
[20:45] <Unit193> Yes.
[20:45] <Unit193> -1
[20:45] <meetingology> -1 received from Unit193
[20:45] <knome> just making sure.
[20:45] <knome> +1
[20:45] <meetingology> +1 received from knome
[20:45] <micahg> -1
[20:45] <meetingology> -1 received from micahg
[20:45] <elfy> +0
[20:45] <meetingology> +0 received from elfy
[20:45] <ochosi> +0
[20:45] <meetingology> +0 received from ochosi
[20:45] <Unit193> slickymaster
[20:46] <knome> elfy, ochosi: does "+0" mean that you don't mind if it's in the seed or not? and if yes, wouldn't it mean it's better not to be on the seed since it can save space and hassle?
[20:46] <knome> not trying to impact your opinion, just asking.
[20:46] <slickymaster> +0
[20:46] <meetingology> +0 received from slickymaster
[20:46] <Unit193> #endvote
[20:46] <meetingology> Voting ended on: Drop The GIMP from the default seed
[20:46] <meetingology> Votes for:1 Votes against:2 Abstentions:3
[20:46] <meetingology> Motion denied
[20:46] <knome> slickymaster, ^ same question to you
[20:46] <elfy> I've no opinion on it - hence sitting on the fence
[20:47] <slickymaster> exactly what you said knome, I don't mind if it's on the seed or not.
[20:47] <Unit193> So, ochosi to carry over to the mailing list?
[20:47] <ochosi> allllright
[20:47] <knome> slickymaster, what about the second question?
[20:48] <Unit193> #action ochosi to follow up with the gimp discussion on the list.
[20:48] <meetingology> ACTION: ochosi to follow up with the gimp discussion on the list.
[20:48] * slickymaster lost that one
[20:48] <slickymaster> what was it again knome?
[20:48] <ochosi> knome: it can save space, not sure it'll really save us hassle. so far i don't remember any really critical bugreport related to gimp for us
[20:48] <ochosi> but yeah, i'm open to dropping it
[20:48] <elfy> moving on perhaps
[20:48] <knome> slickymaster, that if you don't care, wouldn't it pragmatically be better to drop it since it would save space and potential hassle
[20:48] <ochosi> not convinced, but ok with it
[20:48] <Unit193> #subtopic Default office applications (mailing list discussion)
[20:49] <Unit193> elfy: Please, yes.
[20:49] <ochosi> oh man, and another one...
[20:49] <knome> but yeah, no need to stretch the discussion...
[20:49] <slickymaster> tbh I usualy uninistall it knome
[20:49] <elfy> we've had the discussions haven't we?
[20:49] <Unit193> Yeah, so LO is much bigger, but more compatible.
[20:49] <Unit193> elfy: Not in meeting.
[20:49] <knome> elfy, yes, on the mailing list
[20:50] <elfy> I'm putting the kettle on ...
[20:50] <ochosi> elfy: make some for me too
[20:50] <Unit193> Right, so it's been discussed. Anyone ready to make a motion as to voting?
[20:51] <ochosi> but the vote would be to just drop abiword/gnumeric or replace them with LO?
[20:51] <Unit193> ochosi: Exactly, hence why I didn't just make one.
[20:52] <ochosi> knome: ?
[20:52] <knome> ochosi, i imagine two polls.
[20:52] <Unit193> There's also online docs which people use, so dropping is an option.
[20:52] <knome> ochosi, 1) frop abiword/gnumeric or not?
[20:52] <knome> *drop
[20:52] <knome> ochosi, if 1) yes, 2) install LO?
[20:52] <elfy> yes - but vote 2 could depend on vote 1
[20:52] <ochosi> k, i'd be fine with two
[20:52] <knome> elfy, yep.
[20:52] <Unit193> #vote drop gnumeric/abiword from the seed
[20:52] <meetingology> Please vote on: drop gnumeric/abiword from the seed
[20:52] <meetingology> Public votes can be registered by saying +1, +0 or -1 in channel, (for private voting, private message me with 'vote +1/-1/+0 #channelname)
[20:52] <micahg> -1
[20:52] <meetingology> -1 received from micahg
[20:52] <ochosi> +1
[20:52] <meetingology> +1 received from ochosi
[20:52] <elfy> +1
[20:52] <meetingology> +1 received from elfy
[20:52] <knome> and to make sure, +1 is DROP, -1 is NO DROP
[20:52] <slickymaster> +1
[20:52] <meetingology> +1 received from slickymaster
[20:53] <knome> blah.
[20:53] <ochosi> knome: yeah yeah ;)
[20:53] <Unit193> -1
[20:53] <meetingology> -1 received from Unit193
[20:53] <knome> ochosi, for the log readers and all.
[20:53] <knome> +0
[20:53] <meetingology> +0 received from knome
[20:53] <Unit193> Think that's everyone now.
[20:53] <ochosi> yup
[20:53] <Unit193> #endvote
[20:53] <meetingology> Voting ended on: drop gnumeric/abiword from the seed
[20:53] <meetingology> Votes for:3 Votes against:2 Abstentions:1
[20:53] <meetingology> Motion carried
[20:54] <Unit193> Right, anyone wanting to carry that to the list? knome?
[20:54] <elfy> and the next one is to have calc and writer only?
[20:54] <knome> nnooo
[20:54] <slickymaster> lol
[20:54] <ochosi> knome: sure you do ;)
[20:54] <knome> ochosi can do that in the same email
[20:54] <Unit193> #vote Add Libreoffice or parts of it to the seed
[20:54] <meetingology> Please vote on: Add Libreoffice or parts of it to the seed
[20:54] <meetingology> Public votes can be registered by saying +1, +0 or -1 in channel, (for private voting, private message me with 'vote +1/-1/+0 #channelname)
[20:54] <Unit193> -1
[20:54] <meetingology> -1 received from Unit193
[20:54] <micahg> -1
[20:54] <meetingology> -1 received from micahg
[20:54] <knome> -1
[20:54] <meetingology> -1 received from knome
[20:54] <elfy> +1
[20:54] <meetingology> +1 received from elfy
[20:54] <slickymaster> +1
[20:54] <meetingology> +1 received from slickymaster
[20:54] <ochosi> knome: no, that would be too confusing
[20:54] <knome> ochosi, :P
[20:55] <knome> ochosi, i'll do it then... but in a way, this vote makes no sense until the vote on the ML has ended
[20:55] <Unit193> ochosi: Votre, man!
[20:55] <ochosi> oui!
[20:55] <knome> because if most people want to keep abiword/gnumeric, we aren't installing LO..
[20:55] <ochosi> +0
[20:55] <meetingology> +0 received from ochosi
[20:56] <Unit193> #endvote
[20:56] <meetingology> Voting ended on: Add Libreoffice or parts of it to the seed
[20:56] <meetingology> Votes for:2 Votes against:3 Abstentions:1
[20:56] <meetingology> Motion denied
[20:56] <knome> ochosi, hah :P
[20:56] <slickymaster> so, no LO, no abiword and gnumeric
[20:56] <Unit193> #action ochosi to follow up the office discussion on the ML.
[20:56] <meetingology> ACTION: ochosi to follow up the office discussion on the ML.
[20:56] <slickymaster> :P
[20:56] <knome> yeah, based on this portion of the team
[20:56] <knome> oopsie. now ochosi has to do it
[20:56] <ochosi> Unit193: maaaan
[20:57] <Unit193> #subtopic Default game change (mailing list discussion)
[20:57] <knome> woohoo!
[20:57] <micahg> hrm, I really think it needs to be one vote, unless we're looking to not have a replacement (or there are other alternatives besides LO(
[20:57] <elfy> and this one - I assume we're talking about sgt ?
[20:57] <Unit193> micahg: Well, technically online docs or the KDE one.
[20:57] <Unit193> elfy: It's whatever you put on there. :D
[20:58] <knome> i would vote for the sgt-puzzles on ONE CONDITION
[20:58] <elfy> Unit193: I didn't ...
[20:58] <Unit193> It doesn't look so ugly?
[20:58] <knome> that somebody (bluesabre) makes a game selector app for it
[20:58] <knome> and that it only appears as one menu item, not bazillion
[20:58] <knome> currently it's too obtrusive.
[20:58] <elfy> I'd not say that
[20:59] <knome> ...in my opinion
[20:59] <knome> :P
[20:59] <elfy> unless you happen to have bunches of games installed :)
[20:59] <elfy> then I'd agree with you
[20:59] <knome> i have a few to tenish depending on the machine
[21:00] <knome> the sheer amount of games is baffling.
[21:00] <knome> i wouldn't say it would be best to split them to separate packages...
[21:00] <knome> ...but i'd like that personally. i only fancy less than 10 of them anyway
[21:01] <elfy> shall we shelve this and see what bluesabre's opinion on that possibility is first?
[21:01] <ochosi> fwiw, i'll put the office vote-stuff in one email since the votes are directly related
[21:01] <knome> ochosi, yep.
[21:01] <knome> elfy, he's said it's possible, i wouldn't have brought it up otherwise :)
[21:01] <Unit193> elfy: Yes, was thinking the same.
[21:02] <elfy> knome: I assumed but that gets tricky in months time ;)
[21:02] <knome> elfy, because?
[21:02] <elfy> because then I find that what I assumed isn't the case ;)
[21:03] <knome> heh
[21:03] <Unit193> knome: How would you like to carry it on? Re: meetingology?
[21:03] <knome> we can surely get an official response from sean to this
[21:03] <elfy> and it'spossible isn't the same as it's possible and I've got time
[21:03] <knome> i guess: what do other people feel about sgt-puxxles?
[21:03] <knome> s/xx/zz/
[21:03] <elfy> s'ok
[21:04] <knome> is it worth even investigating to creating a game selector
[21:04] <slickymaster> I don't know it, but I honestly don't pay attention to games
[21:04] <elfy> I just think that 'games' in our install is stale - all we seem to have done is remove a couple and leave it
[21:04] <knome> briefly, it's a collection of dozens of small puzzle games
[21:04] <knome> that are a great short distraction
[21:05] <knome> not something you'd play for hours
[21:06] <Unit193> So, I'm hearing a "Why bother?" "I don't really care." and "They are a short distraction."
[21:06] <slickymaster> the way I see the discussion about the games is that everyone always use the argument that people paly them while installing the iso
[21:07] <knome> Unit193, i was trying to give a brief description for them. i'm all +1 if we can get the number of menu items down.
[21:07] <elfy> and I'm +1 for ringing the changes
[21:07] <Unit193> knome: Right, yours seems to reflect that.
[21:07] <micahg> needs to use exo-open or xdg-open
[21:07] <micahg> with that change, I'd be ok including it
[21:07] <knome> on the other hand, if we decided to ship no games, i would be completely fine with that too
[21:08] <elfy> mmm
[21:08] <Unit193> Alright, so lets carry this forward to when bluesabre is here, alright?
[21:08] <knome> so to be crystal clear...
[21:08] <elfy> then if we go that way and no abiword/gnumeric or replacement - just work with core
[21:08] <knome> i'm "+0" on "ship games or not ship games", but if we are shipping, then i'm "+1 sgt-puzzles if they have a single launcher"
[21:09] <Unit193> Good to know.
[21:09] <knome> elfy, but ff/tb/etc
[21:09] <Unit193> elfy: There's still afew things.
[21:09] <elfy> Unit193: I'm good with getting bluesabre's input before deciding
[21:09] <elfy> Unit193: yea :)
[21:09] <elfy> knome: ^^
[21:09] <knome> #action knome to be in touch with bluesabre on sgt-puzzles launcher
[21:09] <meetingology> ACTION: knome to be in touch with bluesabre on sgt-puzzles launcher
[21:09] <knome> move on.
[21:10] <Unit193> Great.
[21:10] <Unit193> #subtopic March/Beta 2 Incentive winners
[21:10] <elfy> again ...
[21:10] <elfy> I info'd that
[21:10] <elfy> and I've mailed them both already
[21:10] <Unit193> Yep, it was there, wasn't sure if there's anything else to discuss.
[21:10] <Unit193> Alright, so we're moving on then.
[21:10] <elfy> I do have a point
[21:10] <elfy> however ...
[21:10] <Unit193> Ah, great.
[21:11] <elfy> all the time we've been discussing this I've been - shouldn't include team
[21:11] <elfy> but as I do the figures every month I feel rather sorry for jjfrv8 ;)
[21:11] <elfy> who tests like a ninja
[21:12] <ochosi> we could give him an honorary sticker?
[21:12] <elfy> or do a whole cycle for team winner set
[21:12] <elfy> excluding me though
[21:13] <ochosi> right, i'd be fine with either
[21:13] <ochosi> personally, i dont think we have to make a rule up for everything
[21:13] <elfy> ok - I'll check with pleia2 to make sure we've got enough - pretty sure we do
[21:13] <Unit193> Action? :D
[21:13] <elfy> unless anyone has an issue with that ofc
[21:13] <knome> practically, we will run out of non-team testers who haven't won soon anyway...
[21:13] * knome hides
[21:14] <slickymaster> bad knome
[21:14] <knome> baaa-aa-aaaa!
[21:14] <elfy> knome: I'm only too aware of how few people we have testing that tell us :(
[21:15] <elfy> Unit193: if nothing else - point made :)
[21:15] <Unit193> elfy: Ta.
[21:15] <ochosi> i'm actually more optimistic after seeing the numbers
[21:15] <Unit193> #topic Announcements
[21:15] <elfy> final freeze next week
[21:16] <knome> the numbers aren't too bad.
[21:16] <elfy> and RC testing
[21:16] <elfy> if they do that
[21:16] <Unit193> #info 9th Non-Language Pack Translation Deadline
[21:16] <elfy> if not Final Release testing the following week
[21:16] <slickymaster> next thursday that one Unit193
[21:16] <Unit193> #info 16th Final Freeze
[21:17] <knome> slickymaster, "9th"
[21:17] <Unit193> slickymaster: Calendar seems to think 9th.
[21:17] <elfy> slickymaster: not according to https://wiki.ubuntu.com/VividVervet/ReleaseSchedule
[21:17] <Unit193> #info 26th Xubuntu 12.04 EOL
[21:17] <Unit193> Any others? micahg ?
[21:17] <slickymaster> btw knome, did you saw isn't next thursday the 9th?!
[21:17] <slickymaster> lol
[21:17] <elfy> oh yea - we going to do an announce on blog for 12.04 ?
[21:17] <slickymaster> isn't next thursday the 9th?!
[21:17] <micahg> Unit193: you mean 10.04 EOL?
[21:18] <micahg> oh, no, that's right
[21:18] <Unit193> micahg: Xubuntu went for 3.
[21:18] <knome> micahg, no, xubuntu 12.04 has only 3 years support..
[21:18] <Unit193> Hah, oh well. D:
[21:18] <knome> slickymaster, Unit193 is right.
[21:18] <knome> #info 16th LanguagePackTranslationDeadline
[21:20] <Unit193> #topic anything else?
[21:20] <Unit193> Schedule next meeting
[21:20] <knome> who's in turn order :P
[21:20] <elfy> slickymaster next
[21:20] <Unit193> Great, slickymaster has to schedule it, and all that jazz! :D
[21:20] <slickymaster> I'll do that later
[21:20] <Unit193> #endmeeting
[21:20] <meetingology> Meeting ended Tue Apr 7 21:20:58 2015 UTC.
[21:20] <meetingology> Minutes: http://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/xubuntu-devel/2015/xubuntu-devel.2015-04-07-20.00.moin.txt
[21:21] <slickymaster> not sure of my schedule for the coming days
[21:21] <elfy> thanks Unit193 for your impeccable hanging about to run it for us :)
[21:21] <slickymaster> ditto
[21:21] <slickymaster> thanks Unit193
[21:21] <ochosi> +1
[21:21] <Unit193> Sure.
[21:23] <ochosi> k, mails sent
[21:23] <elfy> thanks
[21:23] <Unit193> Great, danke.
[21:24] * knome bows
[21:24] <Unit193> micahg: Thanks for turning up, always nice to have you.
[21:24] <knome> Unit193, "...as lunch"?
[21:24] <knome> om nom nom nom nom
[21:25] <micahg> Unit193: thanks
[21:25] <Unit193> He knows processes real well, very handy.
[21:26] <Unit193> == PART2 (only if PART1 is carried) == you mean, don't ship bother LO and GNOME office? :(
[21:27] <knome> Unit193, ship lo, oo, gnome office and m$ word.
[21:28] <ochosi> we'll ship all of that for 16.04 ;)
[21:28] <elfy> I'll hang about a bit longer then
[21:29] <Unit193> knome: calligra too!
[21:29] <elfy> oh
[21:29] <elfy> can we swap gmb for clementine now then
[21:30] <knome> Unit193, and openttd.
[21:30] <Unit193> Sure, no problem. Ship nightingale too.
[21:30] <knome> elfy, no, but we can ship them both.
[21:30] <Unit193> xubuntu-full!
[21:30] <knome> xubuntu-favorite-media-players
[21:30] <ochosi> and vlc!
[21:30] <elfy> ha ha ha
[21:30] <knome> eg. every media player on the repositories
[21:31] * elfy bets a cuppa he's tried them already
[21:32] <knome> lol
[21:32] <knome> just a cuppa... no gamble there
[21:32] <elfy> ok ....
[21:33] <drc> cuppa of 20 year old scotch
[21:33] * elfy bets the first cuppa of the day he's tried them already
[21:33] <knome> :D
[21:33] <knome> elfy, doesn't the second one become the first then? :(
[21:34] <elfy> too confusing by half
[21:35] <Unit193> http://pad.ubuntu.com/xubuntu-gimpy
[21:36] <knome> fancy. Unit193 uses pad
[21:36] <Unit193> Only because I'm already logged in, won't touch it again though.
[21:37] <elfy> mmm
[21:37] <elfy> so you started it - but won't get to the end?
[21:38] <Unit193> Nope, Ubuntu login will anger me and disallow me to login.
[21:46] <bluesabre> gooooooooooooood evening!
[21:46] <bluesabre> :D
[21:46] <elfy> bluesabre: !!!
[21:46] <elfy> we pinged you loads :p
[21:46] <bluesabre> thunderstorming here, so likelyhood of having internet long is low
[21:46] <bluesabre> saw all the pings
[21:46] <bluesabre> where to start... :)
[21:47] <bluesabre> ochosi: your proposed xfdesktop patch will leave us with no icons on the desktop if ubiquity fails or is cancelled
[21:47] <bluesabre> since it sets the xfconf settings
[21:48] <bluesabre> making a launcher should be fairly simple, may need some artwork drawn, or a mockup of what we want
[21:49] <bluesabre> we might be able to take it further and embed the game windows, maybe
[21:49] <bluesabre> but a launcher is easier and faster
[21:49] <knome> bluesabre, just a dropdown or selection list would suffice.
[21:50] <bluesabre> knome: how many games are in the package?
[21:50] <knome> artwork? i guess you can use the game icons if you want to be fancy :)
[21:50] <knome> bluesabre, like 20-30
[21:50] <bluesabre> yeah, I was thinking of a nice icon or card-style launcher
[21:50] <knome> bluesabre, and it's possible that it grows, so the solution needs to take that into account
[21:50] <bluesabre> k, good to know
[21:51] <elfy> bluesabre: on a 1920x1080 monitor - expanding whisker to top - just about grabs them all
[21:51] <bluesabre> yikes
[21:51] <elfy> yep - yikes
[21:51] <bluesabre> I might start hacking something together for that this week
[21:51] <bluesabre> maybe
[21:51] <bluesabre> :)
[21:52] <bluesabre> maybe even a more generic xfce games launcher like settings manager
[21:52] <elfy> so entirely possible and something that we could get voted on next time then
[21:52] <bluesabre> yeah, definitely doable
[21:53] <ochosi> bluesabre: if ubiquity fails? but yeah, i mean that's the same that would happen with feh... and we still have a right-click menu on the desktop
[21:53] <bluesabre> nope
[21:53] <bluesabre> with feh, the normal session is start
[21:54] <bluesabre> with xfdesktop, the normal session is started
[21:54] <ochosi> ?
[21:54] <bluesabre> the difference is that xfconf holds the persistent setting that we apply
[21:54] <knome> bluesabre, start with one for sgt-puzzles, and consider the work you need to do to add it in the package too :P
[21:54] <ochosi> yeah, but only in the ubiquity-dm-only sessio
[21:54] <ochosi> n
[21:55] <bluesabre> xfconf settings are per-user, does the ubiquity session use a different user?
[21:55] <ochosi> hm, let me quickly test that
[21:55] <elfy> can I just ask a question here, why do we actually have the extra screen at all?
[21:56] <ochosi> well, it's already there, i don't think we can do anything about it
[21:56] <elfy> lubuntu doesn't have it
[21:56] <ochosi> it doesn't?
[21:56] <elfy> not that I remember
[21:57] <bluesabre> extra screen as in Install/Live ?
[21:57] <ochosi> yeah
[21:57] <elfy> I'll shut up now till I double check that
[21:59] <ochosi> i guess the installer session only makes sense if it uses significantly less memory
[22:00] <elfy> can't check lubuntu fails with that horrid pwconv /etc/passwd 0600 issue atm
[22:00] <ochosi> 243MiB for the installer
[22:00] <pleia2> elfy: we have plenty of stickers, just tell me where to send them and happy to
[22:01] <elfy> pleia2: okey doke :)
[22:01] <pleia2> elfy: also, at the end of the cycle I think maybe a blog post that lists all the winners and thanks them again
[22:01] <pleia2> since we haven't done a great job of celebrating them on social media (my fault)
[22:02] <elfy> pleia2: that sounds useful for sure
[22:02] <elfy> and next week or so will do a reminder of it pre-final testing, so when that comes up - social mediaing it would be good :)
[22:03] <elfy> and with that - the day's done for me :)
[22:03] <elfy> night all
[22:03] <ochosi> bluesabre: crap yeah, so it's persistent :/
[22:05] <pleia2> elfy: yep, just ping me, I'm traveling again next week so will need poking :)
[22:05] * bluesabre is delighted and saddened that he is right at the same time
[22:06] <ochosi> so installer (243MiB) vs. live (297MiB)
[22:06] <ochosi> elfy: ^
[22:07] <ochosi> actually the xfce session itself is really light (~215MiB), ubiquity is a huge memory hog
[22:10] <Unit193> ochosi: Helps more for Unity.
[22:10] <ochosi> yeah ofc
[22:46] <ochosi> bluesabre: i pushed some tiny fixes/improvements to parole today btw
[22:47] <bluesabre> ochosi: I saw, nice work :)
[22:49] <ochosi> oh, and i updated the parole docs
[22:49] <ochosi> added that hidden setting there
[22:49] <ochosi> (the timeout for hiding the controls)
[22:51] <Subsentient> ochosi: you're an XFCE dev then?
[22:51] <ochosi> yup
[22:51] <Subsentient> ochosi: On the topic of parole, I can't get it to link against gtk2.
[22:51] <Subsentient> I'm using 0.5.x as a result
[22:51] <ochosi> yeah, we dropped gtk2 support after 0.5
[22:52] <Subsentient> Damn
[22:52] <ochosi> so that's very much expected
[22:52] <Subsentient> Couldn't just keep both available?
[22:52] <ochosi> nope
[22:53] <Subsentient> I suppose I can kinda see why that might be, but it's unfortunate nonetheless.
[22:53] <micahg> I don't know if we'll get rid of GTK2 for 16.04, hopeful for 18.04
[22:53] <Subsentient> It's a shame. I liked gtk2.
[22:54] <micahg> yes, but it's not really supported anymore
[22:54] <micahg> (by GNOME)
[22:54] <Subsentient> I know.
[22:54] <Subsentient> It's still good code. I'll miss it. GTK 3 is alright, but I'd still rather have gtk 2. :^)
[22:57] <Subsentient> ochosi: Oh, BTW, I should probably put it on the tracker but I'm lazier than a slot stuck in tar, so I wanted to just ask if the devs were aware of clicking "arrange icons" usually placing some of them offscreen on 4.12
[22:57] <Subsentient> sloth*
[23:00] <ochosi> i think there are some fixes for that already
[23:01] <Subsentient> Yeh I compiled 4.12 the day after it came out. :^D
[23:01] <Subsentient> The new power manager is pretty nice
[23:01] <ochosi> thanks
[23:02] <knome> Subsentient, i very much encourage you to report bugs and test results. it helps us as lot.
[23:11] <Unit193> Subsentient: Whatcha doin' with aqu4?
[23:12] <Subsentient> Unit193: I just like keeping her around in channels I frequent for logging and utility purposes. She won't bother anyone.
[23:22] <Unit193> !1984
[23:27] <knome> Subsentient, may i ask you, what might the utility purpose be? and, are the logs private only, or can somebody else get access to them as well?
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2015-04-07-#ubuntu-nl
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[07:14] <SCHAAP137> poeheej, het lijkt wel een maandag
[07:21] <OerHeks> Jups, alleen om 12 uur geen sirenes
[08:23] <lordievader> Goede morgen.
[08:58] <Goudfazant3991> hallo alle: dat de grup van ubuntu de loader van windows overneemt dat vind ik niet erg (( maar dan moet hij hem wel laten werken ))
[08:59] <Goudfazant3991> afgelopen week groote ellende windows starten niet meer op Disk failure
[09:00] <Goudfazant3991> ben van ellende maar weer overnieuw begonnen
[09:01] <Goudfazant3991> en zal nu maar voortaan de satakabel van het moederboord af halen om ellende te voorkomen
[09:03] <Goudfazant3991> omdanks dat beide OS Systems beide appart staan op zijn eigen HD schijf
[09:03] <Goudfazant3991> neemt de grup toch alles over
[09:04] <Goudfazant3991> ervaring is de beste leer
[09:06] <Goudfazant3991> ondanks dat ik 4 poorten heb op mijn moederboord kan ik maar een poort gebruiken
[09:07] <Goudfazant3991> laat ik beide satakabels zitten op poort 1 en 2 dan ontstaan er weer problemen via de grup
[09:09] <Goudfazant3991> als ik dan in de grup windows aanklik dan krijg ik de melding Disk failuer >> of ik even de loader er op wil zetten anders start windows niet meer
[09:11] <Goudfazant3991> ubuntu 14.10 draait goed allen het probleem >> wat het bovenste betreft??
[09:15] <Goudfazant3991> hallo is daar iemand aanwezig
[09:58] <sarawara> goeie middag
[10:00] <sarawara> ik heb een probleem met een hp laptop, heb daar de 14.10 versie opgezet met een lifeCD maar krijg nu een kernel panic, vermits ik niet zo'n wizard ben, dacht ik opniew de schijf de formateren en opnieuw te instaleren
[10:00] <sarawara> maar mijn comp wil niet booten van de DVD (ook al staat die eerst in de bootprioriteiten)
[10:01] <sarawara> is er een manier mijn comp te verplichten om te booten van die lifeDVD?
[10:13] <Sling> sarawara: je kan vaak in de BIOS een bootdevice forceren
[10:13] <Sling> weet je hoe je in je BIOS scherm terecht komt? bij HP laptops is het soms even wat verschillende toetsen proberen, F2 / F8 / F10 / Del etc
[10:15] <sarawara> Sling is dat waar ik ook de bootprioriteit veranderd heb, dan ja
[10:15] <Sling> waarschijnlijk wel ja ;)
[10:16] <sarawara> en hoe noemt dat 'forceren' dan (in het engels)
[10:16] <Sling> force, of override
[10:18] <sarawara> enig idee waar ik dat kan vinden?
[10:18] <sarawara> in boot options zie ik zoiets niet
[10:30] <sarawara> ik heb het hele menu (menu/security/system configuration/exit) drie keer bekeken maar zie zoiets niet
[10:48] <OerHeks> sarawara, probeert je hp laptop wel van dvd te booten? of gaat hij direct door naar hdd?
[10:48] <OerHeks> ik moet op 2 plaatsen dvd/usb selecteren, als hdd en als bootdevice
[10:48] <OerHeks> ( geen hp laptop )
[11:00] <sarawara> Oerheks hij gaat direkt door naar hdd
[11:00] <sarawara> en vermits die een kernel panic heeft, geraak ik nergens meer
[11:00] <sarawara> ik heb een install gedaan op een gebroken windows, misschien vandaar het probleem
[11:01] <OerHeks> sarawara, je kan je laptop resetten, powercord eruit, batterij eruit, powerbutton 10 sec vasthouden en alles weer aansluiten
[11:01] <OerHeks> misschien dat dat iets oplever...
[11:01] <OerHeks> gebroken windows, heb je ubuntu ernaast gezet ?
[11:04] <sarawara> nee, van lifeCD, alleen maar ubuntu, die vroeg of alles geformat mocht worden en dat heb ik gedaan
[11:15] <Sling> ./4
[11:21] <sarawara> ok, Oerheks, dat heeft gewerkt, ik ben nu binnen met de lifeDVD, niet zeker wat ik nu moet doen (ik las dat windows zoiets had : UEFI (Unified Extensible Firmware Interface) en dat ik dat had moeten afzetten maar windows werkte al niet meer)
[11:24] <lordievader> sarawara: Kijk eens of /boot vol zit.
[11:24] <lordievader> De /boot van je installatie, niet die van de livedvd.
[11:26] <sarawara> ik weet niet wat dat betekent?
[11:27] <lordievader> Als /boot vol zit faalt update-initrd met het maken van een volledige initrd wat dit soort problemen kan veroorzaken.
[11:27] <lordievader> sarawara: Wat is de output van 'sudo parted -l'?
[11:32] <sarawara> lordievader http://www.image-share.com/ijpg-2910-76.html
[11:34] <sarawara> ik ken er niet veel van, maar dat ziet er precies nogal proper uit?
[11:35] <lordievader> sarawara: De eerste is sda? If so: sudo mount /dev/sda1 /mnt/ && df -h|grep /mnt" is die vol (100%)?
[11:37] <sarawara> lordievader http://www.image-share.com/ijpg-2910-79.html
[11:42] <lordievader> Daar vroeg ik niet om ;)
[11:42] <lordievader> Meh, never mind it shows usage.
[11:43] <lordievader> Weet je toevallig om welke kernel het gaat?
[11:44] <sarawara> het is een nieuwe install 14.10
[11:45] <sarawara> ow sorry, heb je die andere dan nog nodig?
[11:49] <lordievader> sarawara: Nee.
[11:50] <lordievader> sarawara: Wat is de output van "sudo mount /dev/sda1 /mnt && ls /mnt/boot" ?
[11:50] <sarawara> denk je dat opniew proberen instaleren mijn probleem zou kunnen oplossen of is er iets deipgaander aan de hand
[11:50] <lordievader> Ik gok dat je initrd stuk is.
[11:51] <sarawara> het gaat een beetje traag omdat het toestenbord niet azerty is maar het komt eraan :)
[11:52] <lordievader> Is toch juist fijn als het niet azerty is :P (Ik weet het fransen gebruiken azerty...)
[11:53] <sarawara> grrrr
[11:53] <sarawara> :)
[11:54] <sarawara> hij zegt dat special device /dev/sdal niet bestaat, heb ik nu een typfout?
[11:58] <lordievader> Ik maak waarschijnlijk een aanname fout.
[11:59] <lordievader> Welke sd* komt er uit: ls /dev/sd*
[11:59] <lordievader> ?
[12:00] <sarawara> dev/sd : no such file or directory
[12:01] <lordievader> Wat is het exacte commando die je opgeeft?
[12:02] <sarawara> ls dev/sd , ook geprobeerd met sudo ls dev/sd
[12:04] <Fermata> Vergeet de eerste slash niet ;)
[12:04] <lordievader> sarawara: Je mist slashes en sterretjes: ls /dev/sd*
[12:06] <sarawara> zegt hetzelfde
[12:06] <lordievader> sarawara: Wat tik je ditmaal in?
[12:07] <sarawara> ah slaches ook, pfff commando's zijn niet gemaakt voor mensen met dyslexie ;)
[12:07] <sarawara> ok
[12:08] <sarawara> hij geeft /dev/sda /dev/sda1 /dev/sda2 /dev/sda5
[12:08] <lordievader> Dan ben je vast bij het mount commando ook wat slashes vergeten.
[12:08] <lordievader> sudo mount /dev/sda1 /mnt && ls /mnt/boot
[12:09] <sarawara> nee ik zie het al ik heb een l van de 1 gmaakt
[12:12] <sarawara> dat belooft voor mijn les C++ binnenkort :o
[12:13] <lordievader> :P
[12:14] <sarawara> http://www.image-share.com/ijpg-2910-83.html (met mijn geweldige fouten er bij :o)
[12:16] <lordievader> Was het een verse installatie?
[12:19] <sarawara> helemaal nieuw, hij vroeg mij of alles mocht geformateerd worden en ik heb ja gezegd (de computer had eerder windows (8 denk ik) maar die werkte niet meer)
[12:20] <lordievader> Hmm, dat is vreemd.
[12:20] <lordievader> Maargoed, dan is herinstalleren wellicht makkelijker.
[12:21] <sarawara> ok denk je dat ik met dezelfde cd opnieuw kan proberen, of toch beter een nieuwe graveren?
[12:21] <sarawara> (euh branden is dat in 't nederlands denk ik)
[12:22] <sarawara> ik wordt nu ontvoerd door familieleden die met mij willen gaan wandelen :) (woon vlakbij een bos)
[12:22] <lordievader> Veel plezier.
[12:22] <sarawara> bedankt voor je geduld!
[12:22] <lordievader> En ja, gebruik gewoon je huidge cd. Als hetzelfde probleem zich voordoet zou ik pas een andere gaan branden.
[16:01] <Guest2203> ik kan niet installeren hij geeft foutmelding Cannot download the metalink and therefore the ISO
[16:05] <WhiteangelBe> ik kan niet installeren hij geeft foutmelding Cannot download the metalink and therefore the ISO
[16:06] <WhiteangelBe> Alvast bedankt voor de genomen tijd om mij te helpen.
[16:10] <WhiteangelBe> gegevens pc: Intel core 2 duo 2.2 ghz ramgeheugen 4GB 460 GB opslag
[16:13] <WhiteangelBe> ik kan Ubuntu niet installeren, hij geeft foutmelding Cannot download the metalink and therefore the ISO, gegevens pc: Intel core 2 duo 2.2 ghz ramgeheugen 4GB 460 GB opslag
[18:32] <sarawara> 't werkt allemaal mooi lordievader, bedankt!
[20:50] <JJK_> Goedeavond! allemaal
[20:51] <JJK_> Kan iemand helpen met een probleem met laden boot screen (opstart installatie lububtu?)
[23:24] <MichaelTiebesl> hoi allemaal
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2015-04-07-#ubuntu-us-mi
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[13:30] <cmaloney> Morning
[13:30] <rick_h_> morn
[13:54] <ColonelPanic001> ing
[14:00] <_stink_> si
[16:57] <cmaloney> How's the day so far?
[16:58] <rick_h_> will let you know in an hour
[16:58] <rick_h_> meeting time
[17:01] <cmaloney> Woo woo
[19:00] <ibouvousaime> hello guys I'm trying to use a nvidia card with blender but blender doesnt seem to see it I get his log when I'm trying to see if the gpu is active http://ur1.ca/k4jsr my driver info is http://ur1.ca/k4jto I already have the nvidia seting manager installed and have libcuda1-346 installed
[20:09] <cmaloney> ibouvousaime: I'd check to see if the card is still supported
[21:55] <ibouvousaime> Okay cmaloney
[21:59] <ibouvousaime> so cmaloney is it supported ? sorry my internet went down for a moment
[22:01] <ibouvousaime> ohh xD
[22:01] <ibouvousaime> nvm
[22:02] <ibouvousaime> misread what you said
[23:36] <greg-g> welp, neighbor kids are over, time to be done with work I guess :)
[23:36] <greg-g> 3 boys between 3 and 6... :)
[23:51] <_stink_> batten down the hatches
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2015-04-07-#ubuntu-pt
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[03:29] <astroo-> ciao pessoal
[20:49] <astroo-> ola pessoal
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2015-04-23-#ubuntu-ir
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[08:02] <MahdiPOnline> نسخه ۱۵.۰۴ امروز میاد درسته؟
[08:06] <MortezaE> MahdiPOnline, چه خبر خوبی :)
[08:06] * MortezaE waits for LTS, btw
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2024-05-13T22:11:16.339628
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2015-04-23-#ubuntu-ca
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[13:59] <themusicgod1> oh hey jlamothe
[14:07] <themusicgod1> how do I go about opening a chapter in thunder bay?
[14:26] <genii> themusicgod1: The sort of "official way" ...If you don't already have a Launchpad login, that's where to start. Then you can make a wiki page about yourself and apply for Ubuntu membership, and Ubuntu Canada membership on Launchpad. The existing members help by giving testimonials on your wiki and showing up on IRC when you up for membership. From there you just try and find others in your area and gather together occasionally for Ubuntu Hours and
[14:26] <genii> Release Parties, hook up with local LUGs, etc
[14:27] <genii> Unofficially just start doing the last thing there :)
[14:30] <genii> themusicgod1: You can also apply on Launchpad to Ubuntu Canada group without needing to be an official Ubuntu member
[14:41] <themusicgod1> i've got a launchpad login
[14:41] <themusicgod1> i'll see if i can make a wiki page
[14:43] <themusicgod1> unfortunately i think the local LUG doesn't exist anymore
[14:44] <themusicgod1> I am hosting a key signing party next week though, though that's more of a debian thing maybe
[14:45] <themusicgod1> through the local hackerspace(ohmbase)
[14:48] <genii> themusicgod1: Yes, I was just searching for a LUG close to you but the ones which used to be in that area including NOLUG seem to be defunct. There may be one in Sudbury but it doesn't seem to have a website I can find. Closest otherwise is the one in Ottawa
[14:49] <genii> themusicgod1: If you contact someone in OCLUG they may know of people or groups closer to you
[14:50] <themusicgod1> yeah winnipeg is probably closer than ottawa
[14:51] <themusicgod1> i'm assuming if there's anyone nearby they'll eventually wander into the hackerspace
[14:51] <genii> themusicgod1: I do know of a regular Kubuntu user in Espanola, I could ask him if he knows any groups around there
[14:54] <themusicgod1> no idea where that is :)
[14:54] <genii> themusicgod1: Couple hours west of you above Manitoulin
[14:55] <themusicgod1> oh east of the sault
[14:55] <themusicgod1> gotcha
[14:57] <genii> BluesKaj: Hiyas! :)
[14:58] <genii> themusicgod1: BluesKaj is the Kubuntu user I was mentioning
[14:58] * genii makes a pretense of making introductions
[14:59] <genii> I'm sort of wondering now what became of NOLUG, seemed like a decent idea
[15:02] <genii> work, afk a bit
[15:05] <BluesKaj> themusicgod1 , Hi
[15:23] <themusicgod1> oh cool
[15:23] <themusicgod1> sorry, workstation froze up due to debugging session mihap
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ubuntu-chat
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2024-05-13T22:11:16.344738
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"genii",
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"channel": "#ubuntu-ca"
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2015-04-23-#ubuntu-se
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[07:49] <Dynamit> Baa fan vad jag hatar mitt minne just nu
[07:53] <Dynamit> Kanske hittade det jag var ute efter yay
[10:49] <tiina> Undrar hur installerar man Nexus personal plugin på Chrome i Ubuntu 14.04
[10:49] <tiina> behöver den för att kunna logga in med sladd på min bank
[11:10] <Amoz> tiina, slutade inte den supportas för ett tag sen?
[11:50] <Dynamit> Amoz: Jag har kört Bank ID på Ubuntu X86_64 OS fast folk sa att det inte skulle gå så bara för att folk säger att det inte går
[11:51] <Dynamit> så behöver det inte stämma
[13:00] <Amoz> Dynamit, jag skrev bara att den inte supportas längre, vilket stämmer eftersom de bestämde sig för att fasa ut den på Linux.
[16:20] <Dynamit> Ja iför sig
[16:21] <Dynamit> ursäkta men jag har så mycket i huvudet just nu så jag tänker inte lika långt som jag borde
[16:51] <tiina> Hur installerar ni bank id idag då?
[16:53] <Philip5> tiina: har gått över till att köra mobil bank id för de är dålig support för linuxversionen
[16:54] <Philip5> den för linux är ju äldre version som inte godkänns på flera ställen man ska använda den
[16:54] <tiina> Ja hittade info om det åhhhh så tråkigt...så då kan man inte logga in och ladda säkerhetsprogram eller nåt längre.....synd
[16:55] <Philip5> ja det suger
[16:55] <Philip5> funkade ju riktigt bra tills de slutade lägga resurser på att utveckla linuxversionen
[16:55] <tiina> ja.....allt ska vara kostnads effektivt idag....
[16:55] <tiina> då blir det att fixa windows äcklet igen
[16:55] <Philip5> jo
[16:56] <Philip5> eller skaffa dig en smartphone ;)
[16:56] <tiina> jag har en smartphone men byter man mobil måste man ladda den med via kabeln för att få nytt...så det går inte
[16:57] <tiina> alltså nytt bankid och säkerhetsprogram och rubbet
[16:57] <Philip5> aha, ja jag läste att man fick lägga om allt om man skaffade ny mobil
[16:58] <Philip5> ska skaffa ny lur nu så jag lär väl få erfara det rätt snart
[16:59] <tiina> då måste man använda windows om man inte har tillgång till Chromes plugin 'Nexus Personal' ...det har jag letat och letat hur får man det
[16:59] <tiina> Chrome har bankid till swebank men inget annat och jag har handelsbanken
[17:00] <Philip5> har bara kört det som fristående plugin i firefox när det gick
[17:00] <tiina> kan man inte ladda den där nexus personal och sedan ladda via kabeln till bankdosan och ladda ner bankid och säkerhetsprogrammet måste man åka till sin bank och de gör det åt dig....
[17:01] <tiina> såvida du inte har windows apan
[17:02] <tiina> Philip5 : känner du till Chrome plugins och där denna Nexus personal?
[17:02] <Philip5> nope
[17:03] <tiina> har letat och letat fattar inte att bankid ens föreslå det för linux användare och att linx e gammalt och inget och ha sade till mig idag....fyyyyy
[17:03] <Philip5> elakt
[17:03] <tiina> Ja Philip5 ha en trevlig kväll vi höres jag pinna vidare här.....:)
[17:04] <Philip5> okidoki
[18:29] <Dynamit> Märks jag varit off missat totalt att det fasat ut bankid för Linux
[18:50] <Dynamit> Jag har fan allvarliga ide brister
[18:50] <ePax> Sotify? Steam? (;
[18:51] <Dynamit> Jag har gjort till Woocommerce ett plugin som lägger till två jäkla fält till produkterna i admin delen
[18:51] <Dynamit> men jag måste fasiken komma på hur jag ska göra en checkbox på produkt sidan i sig som kollar om den är ikryssad
[18:52] <Dynamit> om den är det hämta ena värdet för göra en matte formel men kommer fan inte på hur jag ska göra
[18:52] <Dynamit> fan vad det där blev rörigt förklarat
[18:54] <ePax> Låter lika rörigt som opencart (;
[18:54] <Dynamit> för göra det kort jag håller på skapa plugin till woocommerce som ska tillåta admin fylla i ett namnt (som ska agera "rubrik")
[18:54] <Dynamit> *namn*
[18:55] <Dynamit> samt en procent som det ska vara i rabbat(enbart siffror)
[18:55] <Dynamit> den biten är klar
[18:55] <Dynamit> men måste göra så den används också
[18:56] <Dynamit> så att när en kund bockar i kryssruta med "rubrik" som admin satte så ska rabbaten räknas ut etc.
[18:56] <Dynamit> själva uträkningen är inga problem göra när jag kommer så långt
[18:56] <Dynamit> jag måste dock först komma på hur jag ska lägga till ... på produkt sidan på vettigt sätt
[18:58] <ePax> Kolla om det finns liknande lösningar
[19:00] <Dynamit> har redan för variations kostnader etc woocommerce-addons men den kan bara räkna uppåt och i siffror
[20:53] <maxjezy> Philip5 det är så svårt med kläder på makehuman modellerna man gör
[20:54] <maxjezy> blir aldrig nöjd med resultatet och så åker kläderna av inför rendering.
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ubuntu-chat
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2024-05-13T22:11:16.360225
| 2015-04-23T00:00:00 |
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"Dynamit",
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"channel": "#ubuntu-se"
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2015-04-23-#ubuntu-us-ca
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[00:25] <philipballew> http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2015/04/22/man-shoots-computer-eight-times_n_7119246.html
[00:25] <darthrobot> Title: [Colorado Springs Man Shoots Malfunctioning Computer Eight Times, Calls It 'Glorious']
[00:31] <pleia2> philipballew: re ghana visa, it's easy, you send your passport to the ghana embassy here in the US + check for $60 or something and wait a few weeks for them to send it back
[00:31] <pleia2> US tourists don't usually have a problem
[00:49] <akk> Mailing passports always sounds like such a scary option.
[03:30] <ianorlin> it is sort of hard to find pink window borders for openbox :(
[03:30] <ianorlin> that would also work for lxde
[04:11] <nhaines> pleia2: Ghana charges admission? :)
[04:11] <nhaines> Also, taskwarrior is coming to Android and Ubuntu (on phones)! :D
[16:13] <pleia2> nhaines: pretty standard visa filing fee ;)
[17:33] <blitz> p.cool http://www.addictinginfo.org/2015/04/18/rich-neighbors-refused-to-let-george-lucas-build-studio-so-hes-building-affordable-housing-instead/
[17:33] <darthrobot> Title: [Addicting Info – Rich Neighbors Refused To Let George Lucas Build Studio, So He’s Building Affordable Housing Instead]
[17:37] <akk> Ha, great solution.
[18:15] <ianorlin> -hmm ubuntu california google+ should probably share something about 15.04 being releaseed but am not really used to managing pages and need to figure out the ui
[18:18] <pleia2> unfortunately we don't have any parties planned
[18:19] <ianorlin> although 255 iso test for me \0/
[18:19] <pleia2> wow, nice job
[18:19] <ianorlin> although upgrading to this desktops made spinning up vms so much easier
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ubuntu-chat
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2024-05-13T22:11:16.365813
| 2015-04-23T00:00:00 |
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"akk",
"blitz",
"darthrobot",
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"nhaines",
"philipballew",
"pleia2"
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"url": "https://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2015/04/23/%23ubuntu-us-ca.txt",
"channel": "#ubuntu-us-ca"
}
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2015-04-23-#ubuntu-us-co
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[18:48] <joey> FunnyLookinHat: Do you know if we're still on for tonight given that only 2 people RSVPd?
[18:48] <FunnyLookinHat> joey, Oh - well nearly every S76 employee will be there... so that's +7 or 8 depending on how many stick around
[18:49] <joey> Ok, we can talk about my desire for short-sized 1U servers then :-D
[18:49] <FunnyLookinHat> hehe
[18:50] <joey> maybe if I'm only 1 of two non-76'ers I can be guarenteed to win a door prize :-)
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ubuntu-chat
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2024-05-13T22:11:16.367502
| 2015-04-23T00:00:00 |
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"authors": [
"FunnyLookinHat",
"joey"
],
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"channel": "#ubuntu-us-co"
}
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2015-04-23-#ubuntu-ru
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[08:47] <shauramaxim> помогите плз http://forum.ubuntu.ru/index.php?topic=260419.0
[08:57] <MuxaCb_NL> ;-)
[14:28] <rapidsp> а че теперь в gmail smtp работает только с их приложения?
[14:29] <rapidsp> ни с громоптицы ни с гаджетов почта не уходит, только с родного gmail отправляется
[14:35] <SergeyIT> ты попал
[14:39] <rapidsp> санкции?
[20:39] <Areks_> Приветсвую, господа, хочу закрыть все входящие соединения кроме ssh при этом все исходящие разрешить вот решил прописать такие правила для iptables http://pastebin.com/e94n7Yhk как считаете все ок?
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ubuntu-chat
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2024-05-13T22:11:16.373414
| 2015-04-23T00:00:00 |
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"Areks_",
"MuxaCb_NL",
"SergeyIT",
"rapidsp",
"shauramaxim"
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"channel": "#ubuntu-ru"
}
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2015-04-23-#launchpad-dev
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[00:46] <cjwatson> wgrant,blr: we're definitely going to need some pygit2 backports sooner rather than later - even disregarding merge_trees, conflicts handling in 0.22.0 is unusably bad for our purposes (you can find out that there was a conflict in a merge and which files it touched, but you can't get a merged version with conflict markers). I'm going to sort out some backports, as the patches we need look fairly self-contained
[00:47] <cjwatson> (why yes, I'm trying to put together the LP side of preview diffs because I can't sleep, why do you ask)
[02:09] <blr> cjwatson: oh dear, hope you're not up all night!
[02:11] <cjwatson> meh ...
[02:16] * cjwatson blinks at https://launchpad.net/~cjwatson/+archive/ubuntu/launchpad/+build/7350071. How is that architecture-specific in scalingstack?
[03:30] <cjwatson> https://github.com/libgit2/pygit2/pull/520 should fix the above, cherry-picking that
[04:21] <blr> cjwatson: huh, in what instances were you seeing garbage in the diff?
[08:48] <wgrant> cjwatson: Hum, I guess I was looking at master rather than 0.22.0 when I thought the conflict handling looked OK.
[09:42] <cjwatson> blr: nothing we were using yet, but when trying to improve the conflict handling using merge_file_from_index, we ended up with garbage in place of the path in the conflict marker sometimes, because it wasn't holding onto a reference to that memory
[09:43] <cjwatson> wgrant: right, it's fiddly but I do now have a workable algorithm which I'll implement on Friday when actually working
[09:45] <cjwatson> basically walk over index.conflicts and do blob_oid = repo.create_blob(repo.merge_file_from_index(*conflict)); index.add(IndexEntry(path, blob_oid, GIT_FILEMODE_BLOB)); conflicts.remove(path)
[09:45] <cjwatson> and keep a note of the conflicted paths and return them separately
[09:46] <wgrant> cjwatson: What was in the merged tree in case of conflicts?
[09:47] <cjwatson> wgrant: do you mean in diff_from_tree().patch?
[09:48] <wgrant> cjwatson: yeah
[09:48] <cjwatson> wgrant: a patch removing the conflicted file
[09:48] <cjwatson> super-useful
[09:48] <wgrant> ... oh
[09:49] <wgrant> That's totally not what favor says it does.
[09:49] <cjwatson> it soooooooort of makes sense internally
[09:49] <cjwatson> in a very skewed way
[09:52] <cjwatson> but yeah, I noticed when I tried to write a test and observed that it made NO SENSE
[09:52] <cjwatson> (when adding info about conflicts to the compare-merge return value so that previewdiff can use them)
[09:53] <cjwatson> wgrant: the cherry-picks for this plus merge_tree are in the LP PPA now, anyway.
[09:55] <wgrant> Lovely, thanks.
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ubuntu-chat
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2024-05-13T22:11:16.378588
| 2015-04-23T00:00:00 |
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"blr",
"cjwatson",
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"channel": "#launchpad-dev"
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2015-04-23-#ubuntu-on-air
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[10:44] <Tung_vn> when we can download the official of ubuntu 15:04?
[10:45] <k1l> "when its done" :)
[10:45] <k1l> plan with afternoon timeframe
[10:47] <Tung_vn> I was in Vietnam and now is 5.47 pm. @@
[10:48] <k1l> well, more of a western timezone :)
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ubuntu-chat
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2024-05-13T22:11:16.380005
| 2015-04-23T00:00:00 |
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"authors": [
"Tung_vn",
"k1l"
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"channel": "#ubuntu-on-air"
}
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2015-04-23-#ubuntu-it
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[02:08] <nuccio> ciao a tuttiva il tracpad
[02:08] <nuccio> come si attva il tracpad
[02:10] <nuccio> ciao a tuttiva il tracpad
[06:22] <akis24> giorno
[07:52] <iugin> /msg NickServ VERIFY REGISTER iugin fwkfxsonotwj
[08:13] <matadores> buon giorno
[08:14] <matadores> sono nel sito di supporto?
[08:14] <ExPBoy> !supporto
[08:14] <ubot-it> il canale di supporto è #ubuntu-it
[08:15] <matadores> i miei problemi sono i seguenti
[08:19] <matadores> la batteria mi dura solo 20 min del portatile se mi potete dare un link utile da seguire su come installare Flash Professional CC
[08:19] <matadores> #ubuntu-it
[08:32] <bipp> Buongiorno!
[08:44] <jester-> 'ngiorno
[08:45] <matadores> giorno
[08:45] <matadores> chi puo aiutarmi?
[08:46] <jester-> !qualcuno | matadores
[08:46] <ubot-it> matadores: la maggior parte delle prime domande fatte in questo canale è del tipo «qualcuno puo' aiutarmi/qualcuno ha tempo/qualcuno usa...?». Fate la vostra domanda tecnica e se qualcuno sa, rispondera'
[08:47] <matadores> capisco ma se è aiuto e non risponde nessuno come si fa ad evolvere il tutto?
[08:48] <matadores> ovvio nessuno è obligato a farlo ma non riesco a capire neanche chi cc'è in chat (mettete una chat migliore)?
[08:48] <jester-> matadores: se non esponi il problema
[08:48] <jester-> la chat è sprovvista di palla di vetro
[08:48] <matadores> il problema è il seguente come installare adobe fl profescional su ubuntu
[08:49] <matadores> poi ne ho altri penso sino semplici
[08:49] <jester-> matadores: attualmente ci sono 45 persone in canale non le vedi perché usi un client del menga
[08:50] <jester-> matadores: adobe pro per ubuntu non esiste, eiste, forse, adobe acorbat sul sito
[08:50] <jester-> acrobat*
[08:50] <matadores> quindi non posso fare nulla?
[08:51] <jester-> prendi il deb acrobat e lo installi, se vuoi roba winzoz usi winzoz oppure lo virtualizzi in linux
[08:52] <matadores> preciso sono zero di linux
[08:53] <matadores> quindi un tutorial buono è affidabile per evitare di creare casini?
[08:54] <jester-> matadores: linucs e winz non sono sostitutivi ma alternativi come la magana e la moto, se una app winz non esiste o c'è un'equivalente linux o usi winz
[08:54] <matadores> ho capito ma tutorial non cè?
[08:55] <jester-> !wiki
[08:55] <ubot-it> http://wiki.ubuntu-it.org - http://wiki.ubuntu-it.org/GuidaWiki
[08:55] <matadores> ripeto voglio evitare di fare casini nel pc
[08:56] <bipp> matadores: se non crei casini al PC non imparerai mai.
[08:56] <matadores> già visto che alcuni tutoria sono absoleti su ubuntu stesso
[08:56] <bipp> matadores: si fanno danni per sistemarli.
[08:57] <matadores> tipo per uno xampp
[08:58] <matadores> e sorpresa se voglio disinstallare non trovo guide
[08:58] <jester-> matadores: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ http://wiki.ubuntu-it.org/GuidaWiki è doc uffciale, ammaregano meglio aggiornato
[08:59] <jester-> matadores: la pratica si acquisisce usando il sistema e risolvendo man mano i problemi che si presentano
[09:01] <matadores> ok ho capito tanto la soluzione la devo trovare da me inbase alle vostre risposte
[09:02] <matadores> quindi vi faccio diretto altre due richieste piu semplici sempre se potete
[09:02] <jester-> matadores: visto che non possiamo usare direttamente il tuo pc ti supportiamo nella risoluzione del problema
[09:02] <jester-> matadores: con winz come facevi?
[09:02] <matadores> la prima come mai la batteria del mio notebook dura poco con questo sistema operativo
[09:03] <jester-> matadores: perchè la tua scheda madre non è completamente supportata oppure il pc è scarso rispetto al tipo di ubuntu installato
[09:04] <ExPBoy> oppure è datato
[09:04] <matadores> e la seconda ho un notebook vecchio ed è un q1 ultradella samsung potete darmi il link per vedere cosa devo fare prima di installare ubuntu?
[09:04] <jester-> !installazione
[09:04] <ExPBoy> !installazione
[09:04] <ubot-it> http://wiki.ubuntu-it.org/Installazione | Per installazione grafica http://wiki.ubuntu-it.org/Installazione/Grafica | Si consiglia la visione della guida ufficiale in inglese http://www.ubuntu.com/desktop/get-ubuntu/download
[09:04] <ExPBoy> !requisiti
[09:04] <ubot-it> requisiti is http://wiki.ubuntu-it.org/Installazione/RequisitiDiSistema
[09:04] <jester-> ExPBoy: e serve lubuntu 32 bit
[09:05] <ExPBoy> eh
[09:05] <matadores> il pc non è proprio datato e un toshiba satellite comprato nel 2013 4gb di ram
[09:05] <ExPBoy> ma è samsung o toshiba?
[09:06] <jester-> matadores: http://wiki.ubuntu-it.org/Installazione/RequisitiDiSistema
[09:06] <matadores> il pc dove voglio installare definitivo ubuntu e il q1 ultra
[09:06] <matadores> adesso l'ho tengo installato ubuntu sul toshiba
[09:06] <jester-> matadores: leggi la guida
[09:06] <ExPBoy> bho
[09:08] <matadores> non mi hai capito?
[09:08] <jester-> matadores: http://wiki.ubuntu-it.org/Installazione/RequisitiDiSistema
[09:09] <jester-> matadores: le vedi le caratteristiche piu adatte per ogni rilascio?
[09:10] <matadores> si
[09:10] <matadores> quindi su il q1 ultra non va 14.0.4 di ubuntu?
[09:11] <matadores> a 32 bi?
[09:12] <jester-> matadores: lubuntu
[09:12] <jester-> la piu leggera
[09:13] <jester-> xbuntu medio leggera
[09:13] <jester-> ubuntu kubuntu le piu pesanti
[09:14] <matadores> ha 1.5 di ram e se non sbaglio 50 gb di hdd a 32 bit
[09:15] <matadores> entrate usb e il lettore dvd lo ha sempre tramite usb perchè tutti gli accesori furono comprati all'epoca
[09:15] <matadores> 1600€ dellepoca mi spiace buttarli o regalarlo
[09:19] <jester-> matadores: decisamente lubuntu. se non lo regge ti rimane puppylinux
[09:20] <matadores> hmm
[09:20] <jester-> matadores: il sistema operativo è sempre lo stesso cambia la grafica piu leggera e il numero di servizi caricati al boot
[09:35] <Windows_Xp> buongiorno, scusate ho bisogno di una mano
[09:36] <jester-> !qualcuno \ Windows_Xp
[09:36] <ubot-it> Error: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)
[09:36] <jester-> !qualcuno | Windows_Xp
[09:36] <ubot-it> Windows_Xp: la maggior parte delle prime domande fatte in questo canale è del tipo «qualcuno puo' aiutarmi/qualcuno ha tempo/qualcuno usa...?». Fate la vostra domanda tecnica e se qualcuno sa, rispondera'
[09:36] <Windows_Xp> sono ipovedente, ho provato Orca su Unity, ma è altamente fastidioso parlando di qualità della voce, c'è un modo per usare altre voci tipo mbrola?
[09:37] <Windows_Xp> Oppure c'è qualche altro screen reader o desktop che si integri meglio rispetto a Unity data la presenza della dash?
[09:38] <jester-> Windows_Xp: sigh non ho esperienza in materia
[09:39] <Windows_Xp> uhm, ho cercato in giro ma trovo che si possano installare le voci mbrola con Orca, ma giude zero...
[09:39] <jester-> Windows_Xp: potresti installare gnome-session-fallback per avere gnome3 che è de convenzionale
[09:39] <matadores> raga ma ubuntu mobile cè?
[09:40] <matadores> sto vedendo un videoche ci mettono ubuntu mobile sul q1 ultra
[09:40] <Windows_Xp> Ok... più che per me, che ancora me la cavo senza bisogno di assistenti vocali, è per un mio amico ipovedente
[09:40] <matadores> visto che in realtà il q1 ultra dispone di entrata di sim card
[09:40] <jester-> matadores: certo che c'è non ricordo la marca del cellofono appena messo in vendita
[09:41] <jester-> matadores: non mi risulta che ci sia per pc
[09:41] <Windows_Xp> Il telefono con Ubuntu è BQ Aquaris E45 Ubuntu editgion
[09:41] <jester-> !tablet
[09:41] <ubot-it> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Nexus7 | Nexus7Multirom: http://wiki.ubuntu-it.org/Nexus7Multirom | Scopri ubuntu touch: http://www.ubuntu-it.org/scopri-ubuntu/ubuntu-touch | Per indicazioni più precise su come procedere, visitare il canale #ubuntu-touch
[09:42] <jester-> Windows_Xp: mbrola è nei repo, basrta installarlo
[09:42] <jester-> basta*
[09:42] <matadores> infatti il q1 ultra e anche tuch screen
[09:43] <jester-> matadores: ubuntu supporta il tacc
[09:43] <jester-> !info mbrola-it4
[09:43] <ubot-it> mbrola-it4 (source: mbrola-it4): Italian female voice for Mbrola. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 0.1-2 (trusty), package size 4926 kB, installed size 6092 kB
[09:43] <jester-> !info mbrola-it3
[09:44] <ubot-it> mbrola-it3 (source: mbrola-it3): Italian male voice for Mbrola. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 0.1-2 (trusty), package size 5225 kB, installed size 6700 kB
[09:44] <dersew> buongiorno a tutti
[09:44] <dersew> avrei un piccolo problema, non sto riuscendo a venirne a capo
[09:44] <Windows_Xp> grazie mille! come setto le voci mbrola per orcs?
[09:44] <jester-> esponi
[09:44] <jester-> Windows_Xp: non ho idea
[09:44] <dersew> ho delle dipendenze da risolvere, quindi provo apt-get update -f
[09:45] <dersew> ciò che succede è anomalo
[09:45] <dersew> in quanto mi resta fisso su Correcting dependencies...
[09:45] <dersew> senza dare ne Done ne Fail
[09:45] <dersew> e sta così da ore
[09:46] <jester-> Windows_Xp: per logica nelle impostazioni di orca
[09:46] <dersew> devo attendere ancora o c'è qualcosa che nn va? :D
[09:46] <jester-> dersew: installando un deb non da repo?
[09:47] <dersew> no, in verità stavo facendo un update da 12.04 a 14.04 di un server, il mio socio per sbaglio ha riavviato mentre si "aggiornava"
[09:47] <dersew> al ritorno, ho trovato questi problemi di dipendenze
[09:47] <jester-> dersew: prova a dare questi comandi in sequenza
[09:47] <Windows_Xp> La combinazione di tasti per aprire le impostazioni di Orca è cambiata oppure è ancora "ins + spacebar"?
[09:48] <jester-> sudo dpkg --configure -a
[09:48] <jester-> dersew: sudo apt-get -f install
[09:48] <jester-> dersew: sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[09:49] <dersew> idem, resta fisso su Correcting dependencies...
[09:49] <dersew> l'ho appena dato adesso il comando, ma da quel che ricordo era abbastanza veloce a dire Done o Fail
[09:50] <dersew> e ovviamente al dpkg --configure -a ha dato degli errori
[09:50] <jester-> Windows_Xp: mai usato orca, vai per tentativi https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Home?action=fullsearch&context=180&value=orca&titlesearch=Titoli
[09:51] <jester-> dersew: dati tutti e 3?
[09:51] <dersew> il terzo no, perkè sta ancora fisso su Correcting Dependencies
[09:51] <dersew> http://paste.ubuntu.com/10870384/
[09:52] <jester-> dersew: control-c
[09:52] <Windows_Xp> dai che probabilmente sono sulla buona strada! mi manca solo testare a tutto spiano con Ubuntu Gnome, perché a quanto pare Orca è completo solo su Gnome
[09:52] <jester-> ridai e lascia fare per un po
[09:53] <dersew> ok, provo, ma è cmq una strada che avevo provato (invano)
[09:53] <dersew> procedura letta sul forum
[09:53] <jester-> se rimane incrocchiato sudo apt-get dist-upgrade se non va mi sa che serve un ripristino
[09:54] <Windows_Xp> a che ora saranno rilasciati i link e i torrent per la 15.04?
[09:54] <jester-> Windows_Xp: di solito la sera tardi
[09:54] <jester-> !ripristino | dersew
[09:54] <ubot-it> dersew: Per ripristinare un sistema danneggiato: http://wiki.ubuntu-it.org/Installazione/RipristinoInstallazione
[09:54] <dersew> il dist-upgrade E: Unmet dependencies. Try using -f. resta così
[09:55] <dersew> ovviamente l'install -f l'ho killato per dare il disp-upgrade
[09:55] <Windows_Xp> OK, perfetto, questo significa che da domani dico addio a Windows 10 e inizio a provare a tutto spiano, grazie dell'aiuto!
[09:55] <jester-> dersew: si è sminchiato mica poco
[09:56] <dersew> si, me ne sono reso conto, il problema è che essendo un server, nn posso mettere le mani fisicamente
[09:56] <dersew> e di conseguenza fare un ripristino
[09:56] <dersew> con una live
[09:56] <jester-> dersew: sei da remoto?
[09:56] <dersew> si, ssh
[09:57] <bipp> dersew: il server non ha un accesso da Cpanel o similari?
[09:57] <dersew> no, nn ho installato il cpanel, c'è solo il manager di ovh
[09:57] <jester-> dersew: vedo che le dipendenze sminchiate sono parecchie prova a dare sudo apt-get update
[09:57] <dersew> ma se nn ricordo male c'è solo il reboot in recovery
[09:57] <jester-> e poi i tre comandi
[09:58] <dersew> l'update è l'unica cosa che va a buon fine
[09:58] <dersew> ho ridato i comandi
[09:58] <dersew> ma stessa cosa
[09:58] <dersew> resta fisso sul Correcting
[09:58] <jester-> dersew: provare in recovery se parte male non fa
[09:58] <bipp> dersew: il manager di ovh per esperienza dovrebbe darti tutti gli strumenti utili per eseguire un ripristino/reistall della distro.
[09:59] <dersew> reinstall si, lo so.. ma nn fa al caso mio..
[09:59] <jester-> si ma avendo spento il pc durante avanzamento è andato fuori di testa perdendo i dati
[09:59] <dersew> il ripristino, ora guardo
[09:59] <dersew> eventualmente faccio partire in recovery e vediamo
[10:01] <jester-> dersew: ultima razio rm -rf /var/lib/apt/lists/* che azzera apt dpkg poi apt-get update e i tre comandi
[10:03] <dersew> nada
[10:03] <dersew> si blocca al solito
[10:04] <jester-> dersew: recovery e poi ripristino
[10:04] <jester-> dersew: controlla il sources list che non sia mutilato
[10:04] <jester-> !sourcesslist
[10:04] <ubot-it> Voce non trovata: 'sourcesslist'
[10:04] <jester-> !sourceslist
[10:04] <ubot-it> http://wiki.ubuntu-it.org/Repository/SourcesList
[10:06] <dersew> no, è ok
[10:12] <dersew> ok, sto riavviando in rescue
[10:26] <dersew> scusate, il mio socio è scomparso, e la mail cn la pasw per il rescue arriva a lui..
[10:26] <dersew> vi aggiorno
[10:27] <dersew> e cmq, dal manager di ovh, c'è solo reinstalla e rescue pro, non c'è il ripristina
[10:28] <jester-> dersew: reinstalla non dovrebbe cancellare i dati
[10:28] <dersew> si, c'è l'avviso
[10:28] <dersew> formatta tutto
[10:28] <dersew> cancella dati
[10:28] <jester-> mizzica
[10:29] <dersew> già
[10:30] <akis24> dersew: io avrei provato a svuotare la cache di apt e provare sudo apt-get -u dist-upgrade e sudo apt-get -o Debug::pkgProblemResolver=yes dist-upgrade cosi letto in giro
[10:31] <dersew> provo
[10:31] <dersew> riavvio in modalità normale :D
[10:31] <jester-> dersew: rm -rf /var/lib/apt/lists/* sudo apt-get clean sudo apt-get -u dist-upgrad diceva akis24 in regia
[10:31] <dersew> credo di averli già provati stamane
[10:31] <dersew> ma riprovo
[10:31] <dersew> 2 sec
[10:32] <jester-> provare sudo apt-get -u dist-upgrade e sudo apt-get -o Debug::pkgProblemResolver=yes dist-upgrade
[10:36] <dersew> http://paste.ubuntu.com/10870543/
[10:36] <jester-> dersew: sei connesso a internet?
[10:37] <jester-> non trova il pacco
[10:37] <dersew> certo che si
[10:37] <dersew> sto via ssh
[10:37] <dersew> :D
[10:37] <jester-> dersew: allora il sourceslist è sminchiato, sudo apt-get update da errori?
[10:37] <dersew> no
[10:38] <dersew> l'unica cosa che nn da errori
[10:38] <dersew> :D
[10:38] <jester-> manca qualche voce allora
[10:38] <jester-> dersew: o il server ha problemi di connessione internet
[10:39] <dersew> ti posto il sorce.lst?
[10:39] <jester-> posta
[10:40] <dersew> http://paste.ubuntu.com/10870553/
[10:43] <dersew> è ok il source
[10:43] <dersew> dava quell'avviso perkè non era stato fatto update
[10:43] <jester-> dersew: sembra a posto strano che non trovi libc6
[10:43] <dersew> adesso ridà l'errore iniziale delle dipendenze
[10:44] <dersew> anche con i comandi che diceva akis24
[10:44] <jester-> dersew: sudo apt-get install --reinstall libc6
[10:45] <dersew> nn va, problema con le dipendenze
[10:45] <dersew> dice di provare con -f
[10:46] <jester-> dersew: ancora dice che non trova il pacchetto loibc6?
[10:46] <jester-> libc6
[10:46] <jester-> dersew: prova pure a cambiare server apt
[10:47] <dersew> http://paste.ubuntu.com/10870576/
[10:48] <jester-> dersew: a me pare sia un problema di server apt o i connessione internet del server
[10:48] <bipp> dersew: sempre per esperienza devi cambiare il source list :)
[10:48] <jester-> in sostanza non puo scaricare i pacchetti necessari
[10:49] <jester-> dersew: cambia il server apt e controlla che il server sia connesso a internet
[10:49] <dersew> il server è connesso ad internet
[10:49] <dersew> come cambio server apt'
[10:49] <dersew> ?
[10:49] <jester-> allora cambia il sever
[10:50] <jester-> dersew: sa ssh dovresti fare con sed
[10:50] <jester-> o cambi a mano riga per riga
[10:50] <bipp> dersew: inoltre, sempre per consiglio, dai uno sguardo ai nameserver "che spesso" non riescono a risolvere (gli attuali, se ne hai). Ti consiglio quelli di Google.
[10:51] <bipp> dersew: hai la versione 14 di ubuntu?
[10:51] <dersew> 12.04
[10:51] <dersew> ho provato ad aggiornare ed è successo il patatrac
[10:51] <dersew> adesso riavviando mi dice 14.04
[10:51] <dersew> ma c credo poco :D
[10:52] <bipp> dersew: un attimo :)
[10:52] <jester-> dersew: se vuoi ti mando il mio e rinomini il sources in uso
[10:52] <dersew> si, grazie
[10:52] <jester-> spe che cerco il 14.04
[10:53] <bipp> dersew: per modificare puoi provare: sudo nano path oppure entrare con un client (se hai windows WINSCP usando la porta SSH)
[10:54] <jester-> dersew: https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/501061/sources.list
[10:57] <dersew> tt ok, tranne alla fine che da
[10:57] <dersew> W: GPG error: http://extras.ubuntu.com trusty Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY 16126D3A3E5C1192
[10:58] <jester-> dersew: commenta le righe con extra
[10:58] <dersew> k
[10:58] <jester-> !gpgerr | dersew oppure
[10:58] <ubot-it> dersew oppure: Se ricevi errori di chiave GPG dopo aver aggiunto dei repository personalizzati, identifica la chiave GPG che restituisce l'errore ricevuto ( per esempio 437D05B5 ) ed esegui da terminale: gpg --keyserver keyserver.ubuntu.com --recv-keys <codice_chiaveGPG> && gpg --export --armor | sudo apt-key add - && sudo apt-get update
[10:58] <dersew> ok commentato e nessun errore dopo l'update
[10:58] <dersew> provo upgrade
[10:59] <dersew> niente, errore di dipendenze
[10:59] <dersew> provo -f install
[10:59] <dersew> niente, si riblocca su Correcting dependences... senza dare nessun esito
[10:59] <jester-> dersew: apt-get update dato?
[11:00] <dersew> si
[11:01] <jester-> e ha aggiornato senza errori?
[11:02] <dersew> aggiornato?
[11:02] <dersew> ha fatto l'update senza errori
[11:02] <dersew> upgrade da errori
[11:02] <jester-> è incrocchiato assai
[11:02] <jester-> dist-opgrade?
[11:02] <jester-> upgrade
[11:02] <dersew> sempre problema di dipendenze
[11:03] <jester-> non so che altro dirti
[11:03] <dersew> dice di fare -f install
[11:03] <dersew> ma li si blocca al solito
[11:03] <jester-> dersew: le akis stringhe?
[11:03] <dersew> senza esito
[11:03] <dersew> già provate
[11:03] <dersew> invano
[11:03] <jester-> mi sa che è irreversibile
[11:03] <dersew> oh che bello
[11:04] <jester-> penitenza per il socio
[11:04] <dersew> dito in c... per me
[11:04] <dersew> però
[11:04] <dersew> :D
[11:04] <bipp> dersew: ovh ti offre il servizio di backup di ciò che ti serve?
[11:04] <dersew> a pagamento
[11:04] <bipp> dersew: se si, salvi tutto e reistalli
[11:05] <dersew> ma il backup lo posso fare senza problemi
[11:05] <dersew> il problema è che reinstallare tutto
[11:05] <dersew> c'è da configurare il mondo
[11:05] <dersew> e anche più
[11:05] <jester-> non avendo accesso diretto al server non saprei come potresti ripristinare, o ti fai un backup di dati e impostazioni varie e ripristini
[11:05] <dersew> e dato che c'è su un sistema configurato 3 anni fa
[11:05] <dersew> nn ricordo nemmeno tutto ciò che c'è da configurare
[11:05] <jester-> dersew: aveno accesso diretto potresti fare in 20 minuti
[11:06] <jester-> reinstallando sopra senza formattare
[11:06] <dersew> c'è un'opzione netboot
[11:06] <dersew> può essere utile?
[11:06] <jester-> dersew: a sapere che fa
[11:06] <bipp> dersew: è l'opzione network boot, non fa al tuo caso ;-)
[11:06] <dersew> avviare in modalità network
[11:06] <dersew> questo è ciò che dice :D
[11:06] <jester-> dersew: è installazione da rete mi pare
[11:07] <jester-> ma renstallando i file di conf te li sega comunque
[11:07] <bipp> dersew: non hai possibilità di creare un pacchetto con tutte le configurazioni dell'applicazione impattata?
[11:07] <dersew> sono programmi di terze parti quelli che nn voglio perdere le config
[11:07] <dersew> e sn parecchi
[11:07] <dersew> il resto, i config di sistema nn mi preoccupano
[11:07] <jester-> vado a pranz
[11:07] <bipp> ciao jester-
[11:08] <dersew> b.pranzo e grazie mille jester-
[11:08] <bipp> dersew: come ti ha suggerito jester- non ci sono altre possibilità :)
[11:46] <matadores> sapete comando per terminare uno screen?
[11:46] <matadores> e per visualizzare gli errori del sito?
[11:47] <matadores> per screnn intendo il comando screen php nomefile.php
[11:48] <gigirock> matadores, ma perche' devi fare screen php nomefile.php ?
[11:48] <matadores> su la ,ia vps
[11:49] <matadores> per far partire il server.php
[11:49] <gigirock> http://bit.ly/1PnNqn3 | matadores
[11:50] <matadores> grazie
[11:50] <gigirock> cmq ctrl -a d esce dallo screen ma non lo termina
[11:52] <gigirock> se devi terminare nomefile.php penso che killall nomefile.php lo ammazza cmq
[11:52] <gigirock> screen -r torni dentro
[11:56] <matadores> grazie
[11:59] <matadores> e per visualizzare eventuali errori o quantaltro delle cartelle o faile del sito esiste qualche comando?
[12:00] <matadores> senza visualizare sempre con filezilla?
[12:03] <matadores> altra cosa sapete dove posso scaricare una guida per incominciare a imparare i comandi basilari e un po piu evoluti da fare tramite terminale sia su notebok che su vpa
[12:03] <matadores> vps
[12:13] <gigirock> matadores, dal windows ?
[12:14] <gigirock> matadores cmq con protocollo scp .... se il tuo server lo supporta
[12:14] <gigirock> in windows winscp
[15:39] <matadores> ho un problema
[15:40] <matadores> ho installato ampp correttamente nel pc
[15:40] <matadores> ma ora non parte
[15:41] <matadores> amppsé
[15:41] <akis24> http://wiki.ubuntu-it.org/Server/Xampp
[15:42] <akis24> matadores: sembra si debba avviare con sudo /opt/lampp/lampp start
[15:43] <matadores> e ma su ampps dice di cliccare su lo starter di ampps(non è xampp)
[15:45] <matadores> come carico immaggine per farvi vedere cosi mi potete dire il dafarsi ?
[15:45] <akis24> !image | matadores
[15:45] <ubot-it> matadores: Carica un'immagine su https://imgur.com/ | http://imageshack.us/ (richiede registrazione) e metti un collegamento ad essa in canale.
[15:46] <akis24> matadores: passa in chat qui si supporta solo roba ufficiale presente nei repo di ubuntu
[15:46] <akis24> !chat | matadores
[15:46] <ubot-it> matadores: per qualsiasi argomento non inerente strettamente il supporto a ubuntu, /join #ubuntu-it-chat
[15:47] <matadores> ok ma ho usato la versione per ubuntu
[15:47] <matadores> di ampps
[15:49] <akis24> matadores: cambia nulla stessa risposta
[18:04] <mykevirus> Buonasera, dopo l'aggiornamento di routine e il successivo riavvio ubuntu mi chiede la password
[18:05] <mykevirus> e nonostante sia giusta me la richiede
[18:05] <gigirock> mykevirus, evidentemente non e' giusta
[18:06] <mykevirus> gigirock è giusta perchè con alt ctrl f1 ci entro
[18:06] <gigirock> mykevirus, oppure hai settata la tastiera mericana e la password contiene qualche carattere speciale
[18:07] <mykevirus> gigirock comunque avevo l'accesso diretto
[18:07] <gigirock> in che senso ?
[18:07] <krabador> mykevirus, che ubuntu?
[18:08] <mykevirus> la password è giusta perchè con ctrl+alt+F1 riesco ad entrare, ho ubuntu 14.04.02
[18:08] <gigirock> e allora da ctrl alt f1 entra come root e cambia la password di user
[18:09] <mykevirus> la pass che uso e la stessa che inserisco all'avvio ma non mi fa entrare
[18:09] <gigirock> e allora da ctrl alt f1 entra come root e cambia la password di user
[18:10] <mykevirus> come faccio?
[18:11] <gigirock> mykevirus, passw utente
[18:11] <krabador> mykevirus, ctrl alt f1 , accedi , sudo su
[18:11] <krabador> passwd utente
[18:12] <mykevirus> scusa non ho capito
[18:12] <krabador> mykevirus, hai detto che con ctrl alt f1, accedi, no?
[18:13] <mykevirus> si
[18:13] <krabador> allora, ctrl alt f1, accedi, digiti sudo su
[18:13] <krabador> poi passwd <nomeutente>
[18:14] <mykevirus> provo
[18:14] <chiaraBL> buona sera c'è qualcuno che mi può aiutare x un problema con stampante e ubuntu?
[18:15] <krabador> chiaraBL, chiedi
[18:15] <gigirock> !qualcuno | chiaraBL
[18:15] <ubot-it> chiaraBL: la maggior parte delle prime domande fatte in questo canale è del tipo «qualcuno puo' aiutarmi/qualcuno ha tempo/qualcuno usa...?». Fate la vostra domanda tecnica e se qualcuno sa, rispondera'
[18:15] <chiaraBL> uso ubuntu 14.10.... e fino qualche giorno fa riuscivo a stampare anche in wifi ora non più...e non me la riconosce più in wifi come posso fare?
[18:17] <gigirock> chiaraBL, puoi accedere ai menu della stampante ?
[18:17] <chiaraBL> si e me la trova collegata tramite usb
[18:17] <lasa81> buonasera a tutti....mi sapete dire per quale ragione, quando connetto il mio galaxy s5 tramite usb, ubuntu me lo rileva...mi riconosce sia memoria ext che mem dispositivo ma quando entro nelle cartelle (per es quella delle foto) non riesco ad aprirle ?
[18:18] <krabador> lasa81, sudo nautilus
[18:19] <gigirock> chiaraBL, ma la stampante e' collegata con usb al computer ?
[18:19] <chiaraBL> ora si
[18:19] <lasa81> krabador: ...mm..in quella schermata non mi vede il cell...O_o
[18:19] <krabador> lasa81, te lo vede , se l'hai montato immediatamente prima
[18:20] <gigirock> chiaraBL, e cosi' non stampa ?
[18:20] <krabador> lasa81, vai direttamente su /media, e vedi il punto di mount
[18:20] <chiaraBL> gigirock no non stampa proprio se non è collegato il cavo usb
[18:21] <lasa81> ok krabador spe..
[18:21] <krabador> chiaraBL, http://localhost:631/
[18:21] <krabador> da un browser
[18:22] <chiaraBL> aperto e in stampanti me ne trova due dicendo inattiva
[18:23] <lasa81> krabador: forse mi sto perdenndo in un bicchier d'acqua..ma su media vedo solo montate le mie 2 partizioni...
[18:23] <lasa81> eppure dalla toolbar laterale riesco a vedere SAMSUNG Android e a navigarci dentro... O_o
[18:23] <krabador> lasa81, il telefono è collegato e precedentemente montato ,e non smontato ?
[18:24] <lasa81> si si..collegato e montato..tant'è che se clicco col tasto dx su SAMSUNG Android sulla barra laterale mi da come opzione smonta kimal73
[18:24] <lasa81> ops krabador
[18:25] <krabador> lasa81, ctrl l
[18:25] <krabador> copi l'indirizzo
[18:25] <krabador> sudo nautilus
[18:25] <krabador> ctrl l
[18:25] <krabador> incolli
[18:25] <krabador> vedi che fa
[18:26] <lasa81> krabador: mpossibile mostrare tutto il contenuto di «usb:002,004 (mtp)»: Operazione non supportata
[18:26] <krabador> lasa81, ma l'hai montato come usb mass storage?
[18:27] <krabador> lasa81, hai rom stock o custom rom?
[18:27] <krabador> lasa81, che indirizzo ha il mount ?
[18:28] <lasa81> krabador: non so come sia montato sinceramente....rom stock originalissima..
[18:28] <krabador> 4.cosa?
[18:28] <lasa81> indirizzo di mount mtp://[usb:002,004]/
[18:29] <krabador> lasa81, in mtp non puoi scorrere le cartelle
[18:29] <lasa81> come no krabador? riesco a entrarci nella cartelle..
[18:29] <lasa81> vedo anche i files...
[18:29] <lasa81> il problema è che non riesco ad aprirli...
[18:29] <krabador> lasa81, clicca sul mount a sinistra , in nautilus
[18:29] <krabador> ctrl l
[18:31] <lasa81> krabador: mi son scordato di dirti...se li provo ad aprire dalla cartella direttamente non li apre..se li copio e incollo sulla scrivania per esempio invece si..
[18:33] <lasa81> krabador: non ho capito...sudo nautilus.. poi dove sarebbe mount?
[18:35] <krabador> chiudi nautils, smonta correttamente il telefono , rimonta, e dimmi che opzioni di montaggio il telefono ti visualizza
[18:36] <krabador> sul telefon
[18:37] <lasa81> krabador: ho fatto come mi hai detto...smontato...scollegato usb...ricollegato...quando lo ricollego mi appare semplicemente la schermata di nautilus dove visualizzo la card ext e la memoria telefono
[18:38] <lasa81> non mi fa scegliere le opzioni di montaggio..me lo apre direttamente come ti ho detto..
[18:39] <krabador> android 4.cosa?
[18:39] <krabador> o quale stock?
[18:40] <lasa81> android lollipop
[18:40] <lasa81> 5.0
[18:42] <krabador> lasa81, apt-get install pastebinit
[18:43] <krabador> dpkg -l | grep mtp > file
[18:43] <krabador> cat file | pastebinit
[18:43] <lasa81> con telefono connesso?
[18:43] <lasa81> oppure lo smonto?
[18:43] <krabador> no, anche senza telefono connesso
[18:44] <krabador> quale ubuntu?
[18:46] <lasa81> ubuntu 14.04
[18:46] <mykevirus> non riesco ad entrare
[18:47] <lasa81> krabador: http://paste.ubuntu.com/10873293/
[18:47] <mykevirus> riassumo, ho effettuato gli aggiornamenti proposti. Al riavvio successivo mi chiede password per effettuare accesso
[18:48] <mykevirus> fino ad allora avevo l'accesso diretto senza password
[18:48] <krabador> mykevirus, " <mykevirus> gigirock è giusta perchè con alt ctrl f1 ci entro "
[18:48] <mykevirus> inserisco la password, lo schermo si oscurisce per un attimo e poi ricompare la schermata che chiede la password
[18:49] <krabador> è vero o no ?
[18:49] <mykevirus> si
[18:49] <krabador> ed hai provato a fare quanto di cui prima?
[18:49] <krabador> lasa81, che ubuntu?
[18:49] <krabador> lasa81, ok, letto
[18:50] <lasa81> krabador: 14.04
[18:50] <mykevirus> si e mi chiede sempre la password
[18:50] <mykevirus> all'avvio
[18:55] <akis24> sera
[18:59] <mykevirus> da quando ho fatto l'aggiornamento, all'avvio ubuntu mi chiede la password, nonostante la inserisca correttamente me la richiede.
[19:00] <krabador> lasa81, allora, attacca il device, monta, e lascia il telefono sbloccato
[19:01] <krabador> e prova ad interagire in nautilus
[19:01] <mykevirus> non riesco ad entrare neanche con la sessione ospite
[19:04] <krabador> mykevirus, ctrl alt f2 , fai il login, sudo service lightdm stop
[19:04] <lasa81> krabador: intendi tastiera sbloccata?
[19:04] <krabador> sudo apt-get remove --purge lightdm
[19:04] <krabador> lasa81, si
[19:04] <lasa81> ora provo
[19:05] <lasa81> krabador: niente da fare..sempre stesso errore
[19:05] <krabador> mykevirus, sudo apt-get install --reinstall lightdm
[19:06] <lasa81> krabador: doppio click su un immagine..mi si apre il visualizzatore immagini che dice IMPOSSIBILE APRIRE .. Failed to open input stream for file
[19:07] <krabador> lasa81, lollipop ha complicato abbastanza per quanto riguarda il collegamento usb
[19:07] <lasa81> azz...peggio del kitkat con il problema di scrittura su extsd?
[19:08] <krabador> lasa81, in ogni caso, mtp è un protocollo di collegamento con il quale puoi gestire vari aspetti con software vari
[19:08] <mykevirus> krabador fatto riavvio?
[19:08] <krabador> mykevirus, riavvia
[19:08] <krabador> lasa81, la musica, con software come rythmbox , eccetera
[19:10] <lasa81> krabador: ho provato ad aprire con gimp un immagine.. l'errore è questo: L'apertura di "/run/user/1000/gvfs/mtp:host=%5Busb%3A002%2C006%5D/Card/DCIM/Camera/20150131_145534.jpg" è fallita: Impossibile aprire '/run/user/1000/gvfs/mtp:host=%5Busb%3A002%2C006%5D/Card/DCIM/Camera/20150131_145534.jpg' in lettura: Operazione non supportata
[19:10] <mykevirus> krabador niente, mi chiede ancora password, e per un attimo adesso esce una finesca che indica un errore
[19:10] <mykevirus> ma poi sparisce da sola
[19:11] <krabador> mykevirus, sempre ctrl alt f2
[19:11] <krabador> sudo dpkg-reconfigure lightdm
[19:11] <krabador> riavvii
[19:12] <lasa81> krabador: ho provato anche con alcuni mp3 che avevo caricato sul cell..niente da fare..mi apre il lettore musicare ma non va
[19:13] <krabador> lasa81, mtp-detect | grep idVendor
[19:13] <krabador> mtp-detect | grep idProduct
[19:13] <krabador> pastebin di entrambi
[19:13] <krabador> a telefono connesso
[19:14] <lasa81> mi dice che mtp-detect non è installato krabador
[19:14] <krabador> lasa81, groups | pastebinit
[19:15] <mykevirus> kabrador ancora niente
[19:15] <krabador> lasa81, sudo apt-get install mtp-tools mtpfs
[19:15] <lasa81> krabador: http://paste.ubuntu.com/10873530/
[19:15] <mykevirus> krabador
[19:17] <krabador> lasa81, mtp-detect | grep idVendor
[19:17] <krabador> mtp-detect | grep idProduct
[19:18] <krabador> mykevirus, ctrl alt f1 , sudo apt-get install pastebinit
[19:19] <krabador> sudo apt-get update | pastebinit
[19:23] <mykevirus> krabador eventualmente per recuperare i dati memorizzati per una eventuale formattazione come faccio?
[19:23] <akis24> mykevirus: che versione di ubuntu ?
[19:24] <akis24> mykevirus: krabador se dovuto allontanare un momento ..
[19:25] <mykevirus> ok, ho la 14.04.02 lts
[19:26] <mykevirus> akis24 ho 14.04.02 LTS
[19:26] <mykevirus> akis24 continua a chiedere la password
[19:27] <akis24> mykevirus: Ctrl-Alt-F1 poi dai sudo mv ~/.Xauthority ~/.Xauthority.backup e dopo sudo service lightdm restart e riprovi
[19:27] <mykevirus> akis24 ok provo, attendi
[19:27] <akis24> mykevirus: posta il risultato su paste
[19:30] <mykevirus> akis24 il simbolo come lo metto?
[19:30] <akis24> mykevirus: fai copia e incolla del comando cosi vai sul sicuro
[19:31] <mykevirus> akis24 sto usando un pc con windows per chattare e sto scrivendo a mano sul pc che ha ubuntu
[19:32] <akis24> mykevirus: (AltGR) + ì se ti riferisci a ~
[19:34] <mykevirus> akis24 mi dice che mv ~/.Xauthority comando sconosciuto
[19:35] <akis24> mykevirus: sudo mv ~/.Xauthority ~/.Xauthority.backup
[19:35] <mykevirus> aspetta ho sbagliato
[19:37] <mykevirus> akis24, allora, mi ha dato le seguenti stringhe: lightdm stop/waiting e poi lightdm start/running, process 3229
[19:38] <akis24> mykevirus: dai l'altro comando sudo service lightdm restart o prova a riavviare
[19:38] <mykevirus> akis24 ho già dato quel comando e mi ha dato i risultati che ho scritto
[19:39] <akis24> mykevirus: riavvia e prova
[19:39] <mykevirus> ok
[19:41] <mykevirus> akis24 niente, mi chiede la password e nonistante sia esatta me la richiede
[19:42] <akis24> mykevirus: aspetta ..
[19:47] <akis24> mykevirus: a ogni comando che dai dovresti avere un link se hai seguito krabador se mi fai vedere magari ti seguo meglio
[19:49] <mykevirus> akis24: scusa ma non ho capito
[19:50] <akis24> [21:18:54] <krabador> mykevirus, ctrl alt f1 , sudo apt-get install pastebinit
[19:50] <akis24> [21:19:14] <krabador> sudo apt-get update | pastebinit
[19:50] <akis24> mykevirus: li hai dati questi comandi prima ?
[19:50] <mykevirus> akis24 si li ho dati
[19:51] <akis24> mykevirus: quando dai un comando sul terminale dovresti avere anche un link da postare in canale cosi vediamo il risultato del tipo http: ecc ecc
[19:52] <mykevirus> akis24 come ho scritto prima non sto chattando con lo stesso pc in cui c'è ubuntu, è un problema?
[19:53] <akis24> mykevirus: e direi di si visto che dovremmo vedere il risultato dei comandi
[19:54] <cristian_c> mykevirus, da quale ubuntu sei partito?
[19:54] <mykevirus> akis24 ok, se non ti dispiace ora dovrei chiudere perchè è tardi, ti ricontatto domani?
[19:54] <akis24> mykevirus: come vuoi
[19:54] <mykevirus> akis24 nel frattempo come faccio a recupoerare i file?
[19:54] <akis24> mykevirus: quali file ?
[19:55] <cristian_c> mykevirus, hai tranquillamente accesso all'hard disk da live
[19:55] <mykevirus> quelli che ho sulla partizione, a cui non riesco ad entrare
[19:55] <cristian_c> oppure da modalità di ripristino
[19:56] <mykevirus> cristian_c con il disco live non riesco a vedere il contenuto della cartella interessata
[19:56] <mykevirus> cristian_c ,modalità di ripristino?
[19:57] <cristian_c> mykevirus, http://wiki.ubuntu-it.org/AmministrazioneSistema/ModalitaDiRipristino
[19:58] <mykevirus> cristian_c do un'occhiata grazie
[19:58] <cristian_c> mykevirus, ma non hai ancora detto quale ubuntu usi
[19:58] <cristian_c> e da quale sei partito
[19:59] <cristian_c> mykevirus, poi, servirebbe vedere i permessi del file .Xauthority
[20:09] <matita90> ciao sono un principiante.. mi hanno installato ubuntu14.10 nel computer e fin a ora zero problemi. però ora non riesco a navigare con la rete di casa mia nonostante il pc sembri connesspo
[20:10] <matita90> ora sono collegato da un altro computer
[20:10] <bock> matita90, io l'ho appena installata quella versione e non ho problemi di connessione..
[20:10] <bock> matita90, sei connesso in wifi o ethere?
[20:11] <matita90> wifi
[20:11] <bock> matita90, teoricamente quando lo colleggi basta solo la password, e basta anche perchè è configurato di deafult...
[20:12] <bock> matita90, proprio non carica niente?
[20:12] <matita90> no zero.. eppure i segnali da come se fosse proprio connesso
[20:13] <Carlin0> matita90, se dai al terminale → ping -c 3 google.com
[20:13] <Carlin0> risponde o no ?
[20:13] <bock> matita90, non saprei aiutarti perchè non mi sono mai capitati questi problemi
[20:13] <bock> matita90, lascio la parola a Carlin0
[20:14] <cristian_c> !amefunge | bock
[20:14] <ubot-it> bock: un po' di buonsenso... solo perché ne sei capace non vuol dire che dovresti farlo (o consigliarlo ad altri). Pensa prima di agire. "A me funziona" non significa che può andare bene per tutti. L'ultima versione di qualsiasi cosa non sempre è raccomandabile se vuoi un sistema stabile.
[20:14] <matita90> come dovrei fare per dare aL TERMINALE..SONO UN principiante completamente
[20:14] <cristian_c> bock, sopratutto considerando il fatto che ogni pc monta un hardware diverso
[20:15] <bock> cristian_c, si, lo so che ogni pc ha il suo hardware è che a me non è mai capitato e non saprei...
[20:15] <bock> ctrl+alt+T
[20:16] <bock> matita90, ctrl+alt+T
[20:16] <bock> cristian_c, teoricamente i driver della scheda di rete non sono Open?
[20:17] <Carlin0> bock, dipende dalla scheda
[20:17] <matita90> mi dice comando non trovato
[20:17] <Carlin0> matita scrivi questo comando
[20:17] <cristian_c> bock, molto semplicemente, esistono vari driver per vari chip wifi
[20:18] <cristian_c> e non è detto che tutto funzioni correttamente
[20:18] <Carlin0> sudo apt install pastebinit
[20:18] <Carlin0> e dopo (matita90)
[20:18] <Carlin0> ping -c 3 google.com | pastebinit
[20:18] <cristian_c> !pastebinit
[20:18] <ubot-it> pastebinit è la versione a linea di comando equivalente di !pastebin - L'output di un comando oppure del testo possono essere reindirizzati a pastebinit, il quale risponde con un URL contenente l'output - Per usare pastebinit, installare il pacchetto « pastebinit » dall'ubuntu software center - Esempio di utilizzo: comando | pastebinit -b http://paste.ubuntu.com
[20:19] <bock> cristian_c, quel comando serve solo per vedere quanti ms ci mette a rispondere il server di google?
[20:19] <Carlin0> serve anche a vedere se è connesso
[20:20] <cristian_c> bock, consulta il manuale del comando, ma effettivamente serve per verificare la risposta del server
[20:20] <Carlin0> magari è connesso e non naviga per altri motivi
[20:21] <matita90> se calco invio dopo la prima frase nn mi fa scrivere più nulla e mi chiede una password del computer
[20:21] <Carlin0> e tu metti la tua pass
[20:22] <bock> Carlin0, di connessione non ne so molto a livello software, so solo teoricamente come funziona il tutto...
[20:25] <matita90> messa .. mi dice di provare apt-get update o --fix mixing
[20:28] <matita90> niente
[20:30] <matita90> nessun altro riesce a darmi una mano ??
[20:30] <bock> matita90, quando hai eseguito quel comando cosa ti è apparso nel terminale?
[20:31] <bock> matita90, se non ci dici cosa ti appare dopo quel comando è difficcile capire cosa fare, sennò andiamo alla ceca..
[20:31] <matita90> mi dice 0% connessione ubuntu
[20:31] <matita90> e poi di provare quelle due funzioni che ho scritto
[20:31] <bock> matita90, e le hai provate?
[20:32] <matita90> si ma dice che nn le ha trovate
[20:32] <bock> matita90, ridai quel comando e posta su ubuntupastebin il tutto
[20:35] <bock> matita90, riesci a fare uno screen del terminale e con l'altro pc lo carichi in rete?
[20:37] <Carlin0> matita90, dai solo questo comando e dimmi cosa risponde → ping -c 1 google.com
[20:39] <matita90> come faccio a fare la freccia??
[20:39] <Carlin0> senza la freccia
[20:39] <Carlin0> ping -c 1 google.com
[20:40] <matita90> niente
[20:40] <Carlin0> niente cosa vuol dire ?
[20:40] <matita90> va solo a capo
[20:40] <Carlin0> impossibile qualcosa deve rispondere
[20:41] <matita90> ora si
[20:42] <matita90> ping : unknown host google.com
[20:43] <cristian_c> matita90, per favore, posta i risultati dei comandi su pastebin
[20:43] <cristian_c> matita90, hai problemi con wifi o anche via cavo?
[20:48] <matita90> non so come sinceramente
[20:48] <cristian_c> !paste | matita90
[20:48] <ubot-it> matita90: http://paste.ubuntu.com/ servizio che permette di incollare lunghi output senza intasare il canale; incollare il testo, indicare il nick, premere paste e postare in canale l'indirizzo della pagina
[20:48] <matita90> se non mi funziona internet comefaccio a entrarci
[20:49] <Carlin0> matita90, rispondi a questo → <cristian_c> matita90, hai problemi con wifi o anche via cavo?
[20:49] <cristian_c> matita90, ora non stai chattando via web?
[20:50] <matita90> da un altro pc
[20:50] <matita90> via cavo non ho provato
[20:50] <Carlin0> matita90, ma prima si connetteva il wifi ?
[20:50] <matita90> da altre reti da questa mai
[20:51] <Carlin0> ceh router hai ? quello telecom per caso ?
via cavo non ho provato <-- allora prova
[20:53] <matita90> ora provo
[20:54] <matita90> via cavo funziona
ciao sono un principiante.. mi hanno installato ubuntu14.10 nel computer e fin a ora zero problemi. però ora non riesco a navigare con la rete di casa mia nonostante il pc sembri connesspo
[20:56] <Carlin0> che altre reti avevi provato scusa ?
[20:56] <matita90> in altre case
[20:56] <cristian_c> matita90, bene, ora sai che il problema è sulla scheda wifi
[20:57] <cristian_c> matita90, quindi , qual'è la tua scheda wifi?
[20:57] <Carlin0> cioè tu col tuo pc provi prima a casa di altri e poi a casa tua ?
[20:58] <matita90> il wifi l abbiamo messo 2 giorni fa
[20:58] <Carlin0> matita90, fai così collega col cavo e vieni qui collegato da quel pc
[20:59] <cristian_c> esatto
[21:07] <matita904> ok
[21:08] <matita904> cosa provo a fare?? sono matita90
[21:11] <matita904> nessuno mi da una mano??
[21:12] <jester-> circa?
[21:13] <matita904> non riesco a collegarmi con il wifi da questo computer
[21:14] <jester-> matita904: scheda wifi?
[21:14] <cristian_c> matita904, lshw -C network
[21:14] <cristian_c> matita904, ping -c 1 www.google.com
[21:14] <cristian_c> matita904, incolla i risultati su pastebin
[21:16] <bip> Buonasera! E' una disfatta!
[21:17] <cristian_c> bip, ?
[21:17] <matita904> l ho copiata
[21:17] <bip> Questa cosa dell'EFI UFO UEFI e similari è davvero stancante
[21:21] <matita904> niente?
[21:21] <bip> matita904: ciao, stiamo tutti aspettando te
[21:21] <matita904> io ho copiaro suy quel sito
[21:22] <bip> matita904: una volta che hai copiato le informazioni su quel sito, vedi, ti dovrebbe dare un link con un Numero vicino
[21:22] <bip> Copia e incolla quel link in canale
[21:24] <bip> matita904: se hai bisogno, scrivi, ti aiutiamo.
[21:24] <bip> matita904: il silenzio non ci permette di fare null'altro :)
[21:24] <Carlin0> matita904, sudo apt install pastebinit
[21:24] <Carlin0> e dopo lshw -C network | pastebinit
[21:25] <cristian_c> matita904, ma se non ci dai il link al paste possiamo solo indovinare
[21:28] <jester-> lè mort
[21:29] * Carlin0 depone un crisantemo
[21:29] <matita904> http://paste.ubuntu.com/10874318/plain/
[21:30] <jester-> altri recitano un paio di requiem
[21:30] <bip> !!!
[21:30] <matita904> alleluia
[21:30] <matita904> scusate non ci capisco nulla
[21:30] <cristian_c> product: RTL8192SE Wireless LAN Controller
[21:31] <bip> matita904: ti spiego cosa hai fatto
[21:31] <jester-> matita904: apri un terminale
[21:31] <matita904> ok
[21:31] <bip> matita904: dopo ora segui jester- :)
[21:32] <jester-> matita904: sudo apt-get install pastebinit
[21:32] <matita904> ok
[21:32] <matita904> fatto
[21:34] <matita904> http://paste.ubuntu.com/10874350/plain/
[21:34] <jester-> matita904: iwconfig | pastebint
[21:34] <jester-> ti dara un url che incolli qui
[21:36] <matita904> http://paste.ubuntu.com/10874363/plain/
[21:36] <bip> Ho un problema con l'installazione del Grub :) (ultimo Passo Fatale)
[21:36] <jester-> matita904: se non segui puoi pure uscire
[21:36] <krabador> "ultimo passo fatale" ---> sistema con uefi?
[21:37] <jester-> bip: da sistema wubi all'interno di winz?
[21:37] <matita904> cosa ho sbagliato?
[21:37] <bip> jester-: oh no! Per fortuna sono riuscito a fare un'installazione da chiavetta USB
[21:38] <jester-> [23:34:41] <jester-> matita904: iwconfig | pastebint
[21:38] <jester-> [23:34:55] <jester-> ti dara un url che incolli qui
[21:38] <bip> jester-: I seguenti sistemi OP sono stati rilevati ....: windows vista loader (mah). Installare nel master boot record?
[21:38] <jester-> !uefi | bip segui parte recupero boot loader
[21:38] <ubot-it> bip segui parte recupero boot loader: UEFI è una specifica che definisce una interfaccia software tra un sistema operativo e le piattaforme firmware, è intesa come un sostituto del BIOS. Per informazioni su come impostare e installare Ubuntu su macchine UEFI vedi http://wiki.ubuntu-it.org/Installazione/UEFI | vedi anche https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UEFI
[21:38] <bip> jester-: l'istinto iniziale dice di si. Ed esce l'errore
[21:39] <Carlin0> che errore ?
[21:39] <jester-> bip: segui la guida
[21:39] <jester-> se hai efi non c'è altro mezzo
[21:40] <jester-> [23:34:41] <jester-> matita904: iwconfig | pastebint nel terminale
[21:41] <matita904> http://paste.ubuntu.com/10874392/
[21:41] <matita904> http://paste.ubuntu.com/10874392/
[21:41] <matita904> http://paste.ubuntu.com/10874392/
[21:41] <matita904> http://paste.ubuntu.com/10874392/
[21:42] <matita904> xo mettendo pastebinit.. non pastebint come hai scritto xk cosi mi diceva che nn dava risultato
[21:42] <jester-> matita904: iwlist wlan0 scan | pastebinit
[21:43] <krabador> matita904, beh, <jester-> matita904: sudo apt-get install pastebinit , successivamente puo' essere stato un errore di battitura, no?
[21:43] <jester-> matita904: a che distanza stai dal router?
[21:43] <matita904> mi da due url li metto??
[21:43] <jester-> eh
[21:44] <matita904> dieci cm
[21:44] <matita904> http://paste.ubuntu.com/10874392/
[21:44] <jester-> ce l'hai corto?
[21:44] <jester-> lol
[21:44] <Carlin0> ma è il router fastweb ?
[21:44] <matita904> http://paste.ubuntu.com/10874407/
[21:44] <matita904> http://paste.ubuntu.com/10874407/
[21:44] <matita904> http://paste.ubuntu.com/10874407/
[21:44] <matita904> dlink
[21:45] <matita904> montato dalla fastweb
[21:45] <jester-> matita904: la scheda funza e ti becca una camionata di wifi
[21:45] <jester-> matita904: sicuro che stai connettendo la tua?
[21:46] <matita904> si si,,riprovo senza cavo??
[21:46] <jester-> eh
[21:47] <jester-> matita904: metti la pass giusta la tua è fartweb
[21:47] <jester-> matita904: ne vedo piu di una fartweb
[21:48] <jester-> quindi non ti confondere
[21:49] <jester-> 3 fartweb
[21:52] <matita904> niente da fare solo vi cavo
[21:53] <jester-> matita904: in lista dovresti avere 3 fartweb le hai provate tutte?
[21:53] <matita904> no..
[21:53] <matita904> ora riprovo
[21:53] <jester-> matita904: se connetti quella del vicino è logico che non va
[21:53] <Carlin0> magari colleghi a quella del vicino
[22:00] <matita904> le ho provate tutte e tre,, nulla.. mi devo arrendere??
[22:01] <jester-> matita904: messa la pass giusta a richiesta?
[22:02] <matita904> si si.in tutte e tre
[22:05] <matita904> non posso provare nient altro??
[22:07] <krabador> matita904, https://github.com/lwfinger/rtlwifi_new/archive/master.zip , scarichi questo
[22:08] <jester-> matita904: non so se è il caso di compilare un driver esterno. gli esperti sono krabador e cybernova
[22:09] <krabador> scompatti, apri un terminale e vai nella cartella di scompattamento
[22:24] <BlueStarry> Ciao a tutti ho bisogno di una mano a configurare iptables su una macchina remota via SSH che monta ubuntu server 14.04
[22:27] <jester-> !iptables | BlueStarry
[22:27] <ubot-it> BlueStarry: http://wiki.ubuntu-it.org/Sicurezza/Iptables
[22:29] <BlueStarry> Ciao jester, conosco la guida ma ho sminchiato ogni cosa tentando di abilitare MySQL server e non riesco a capire come fare a rimettere in sesto le cose
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2015-04-23-#ubuntu-es
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[06:23] * merrick saluda.
[09:40] <ivedci89> hi
[11:35] <knob> hola!
[11:37] <cousteau> o/
[11:38] <knob> hey cousteau ! Buenos dias... o tardes! =)
[13:38] <sneo> hola alguien sabe como instalar driver intel en lenovo g400s i3 en ubuntu 14.04 64bites
[13:40] <sneo> hola alguien sabe como instalar driver intel en lenovo g400s i3 en ubuntu 14.04 64bites
[13:40] <nazareno> Hola, necesito ayuda para grabar en Ardour
[13:41] <nazareno> sneo: qué driver necesitas? de wifi?
[13:42] <sneo> de vvideo intel
[13:42] <nazareno> ah, perdón, no lo sé...
[13:42] <sneo> gracias
[13:43] <sneo> hola alguien sabe como instalar driver de video intel en lenovo g400s i3 en ubuntu 14.04 64bites
[13:43] <nazareno> Alguien sabe grabar con Ardour?
[13:44] <nazareno> sneo: fijate aqui: http://glatelier.org/2014/04/28/instalar-drivers-tarjetas-graficas-intel-ati-nvidia-a-traves-de-ppa/
[13:45] <sneo> gracias
[13:47] <nazareno> sneo: estamos para ayudarnos :-)
[13:50] <sneo> me salen extensiones invalidas
[13:51] <nazareno> sneo: ups, no lo probé...
[14:41] <ronal> Hola
[14:42] <ronal> Tengo un problema con mi controlador gráfico.
[14:42] <ronal> ¿Alguien me podrá ayudar?
[14:43] <ronal> He descargado el nuevo supertuxkart (0.9), me mensajea que mi cintrolador esrtá "muy viejo", y no corre correctamente.
[14:44] <ronal> También alien-arena, cuando lo corro todo está muy hacía arriba...
[14:45] <ronal> Reinstalé y nada
[14:45] <ronal> Me refiero a xorg, xerver-intel, mesa, vesa y nada.
[14:45] <ronal> ¿alguna sugerencia?
[14:47] <ronal> nah
[14:49] <ronal> hello!!!!
[15:06] <ronal> ¿Esto es chat comunitario?
[16:04] <guadalinex> en español
[16:04] <guadalinex> holaa
[16:05] <guadalinex> my name is gerard
[16:05] <guadalinex> ok nadie
[16:05] <guadalinex> me voy
[16:05] <ghytr> te vas.
[16:06] <guadalinex> pues naadie platica nada
[16:06] <ghytr> no platico.
[16:07] <guadalinex> como te llamas que sistema operativo usas ?
[16:07] <ghytr> tengo gnu/linux.
[16:07] <guadalinex> yo estoy provando guadalinex y en otra compu tengo ubuntu 14
[16:08] <guadalinex> no he podido descargar cebollas
[16:08] <fzeta> /join #ubuntu-es-cafe
[16:08] <guadalinex> y tu ?
[16:10] <ghytr> guadalinex, creo que esta version no es mantenida
[16:11] <guadalinex> pero en ubuntu tampoco
[16:11] <successus> salud o/
[16:11] <ghytr> guadalinex, que quieres hecer?
[16:12] <guadalinex> descargar cebolla
[16:12] <guadalinex> tor funcional
[16:12] <ghytr> guadalinex, usa tails linux sera mejor
[16:14] <guadalinex> ok ya lo estoy buscando
[16:15] <fzeta> guadalinex: ¿Qué quieres hacer? ¿Instalar solo el navegador o torificar todo?
[16:16] <guadalinex> pues solo buscaba el navegador pero si se puede todo que mejor
[16:17] <fzeta> se pueden hacer ambas cosas
[16:18] <guadalinex> y para todo como se hace ??
[16:21] <fzeta> guadalinex: en ubuntu todo es muy fácil. Abre la terminal y teclea "tor"
[16:21] <fzeta> y ya está! sí no lo tienes instalado te dirá como instalarlo.
[16:21] <fzeta> más claro agua
[16:22] <Macan3t> Hola a todos! Es posible actualizar el Xubuntu 15.04 a través del dvd live? Lo estuve viendo un documentation, y sólo lo describe por terminal.
[16:23] <guadalinex> pero solo sera el navegador y para torificar todo es lo mismo ??
[16:23] <fzeta> y porque no lo haces por la terminal, Macan3t ?
[16:24] <fzeta> guadalinex: ¿Ya has hecho lo que te dige? Pruébalo! y te dirá lo paquetes de instalación.
[16:24] <Macan3t> porque puede traer conflictos con los orígenes de software
[16:25] <fzeta> Macan3t: pues yo siempre lo eh hecho por la terminal y no he tenido ningún conflicto.
[16:26] <guadalinex> estoy descargando https://tails.boum.org/ y ya instale tor en ubuntu y aqui en guadalinex no quiere pero en un rato lo soluciono
[16:27] <Macan3t> si
[16:27] <Macan3t> ok
[16:28] <guadalinex> si no es molestia y se me complica al rato escribo otra ves te agradezco
[16:29] <fzeta> guadalinex: No te comprendo.
[18:41] <xaam> hola
[20:07] <xavi_> Buenas, estoy intentando recuperar el grub
[20:09] <xavi_> Tengo un SSd con W10, W7 y ubuntu, y como es de costumbre W me machaco grub. Si instalo otravez linux me aparecera el grub o se puede reparar bien? Tambien decir que el disco de arranque es efi pero tengo otro Mbr, seran compatibles?
[20:10] <xavi_> efi no, perdon quise decir gpt...
[20:13] <cousteau> has probado super grub disk? no sé si eso sigue valiendo
[20:14] <cousteau> de hecho a lo mejor incluso puedes recuperarlo con un disco de Ubuntu; no estoy seguro
[20:15] <cousteau> http://www.supergrubdisk.org/ parece que el proyecto sigue activo
[20:18] <xavi_> con este lo probe desde una iso en un pen y he conseguido arrancar linux (ya es algo), investigare algo mas, gracias cousteau
[20:21] <cousteau> de nada :) me alegro
[20:21] <cousteau> y una vez en linux creo que se debería poder reinstalar el grub
[20:21] <cousteau> al menos reescribir el MBR
[23:32] <janier> hola como esta
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2015-04-23-#juju
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[00:56] <aisrael> lamont: I might be able to help
[01:53] <lamont> aisrael: I eventually figured it somewhat out
[01:54] <aisrael> lamont: ok. It sounded like you might have been running into this issue: http://askubuntu.com/questions/602527/provide-data-doesnt-send-data-when-required-keys-not-satisfied-juju-charm-usin/602629#602629
[01:55] <lamont> the big challenge is that I have a relation may or may not exist, so I cannot use required_keys for it. If the other side does use required_keys, then when it finally does provide_data, juju decides that there is no need to run the hook, and we hate life
[01:55] <lamont> it might be that very issue
[01:55] <lamont> my workaround was to stop using required_keys on the side that actually requires the relation to work
[01:57] <lamont> and yes, your explanation there puts it spot on
[02:07] <aisrael> lamont: Excellent. Glad to hear you got it working!
[02:35] <lamont> aisrael: working is a relative term.. .I'm on to the next issues
[07:59] <gnuoy> jamespage, if you get a sec https://pastebin.canonical.com/130192/
[13:27] <jamespage> gnuoy, https://code.launchpad.net/~james-page/charms/trusty/nova-compute/lxd/+merge/257104
[13:27] <jamespage> gnuoy, hey!
[13:32] <mbruzek> arosales: ping (I know it is early for you)
[13:35] <arosales> mbruzek, omw
[13:44] <jamespage> coreycb, ok so git branches - where are we?
[13:45] <coreycb> jamespage, I'm trying to get around a few issues where python-six and python-netaddr are installed by apt and conflicting with pip dependencies
[13:47] <coreycb> jamespage, I think the problem we're going to continue running into is a mixed bag of apt installed and pip installed packages, and where to draw the line
[13:48] <coreycb> for example, six gets force installed by c-h
[13:48] <jamespage> coreycb, ok - so we need a minimal fix for release today for the impacted charms
[13:48] <coreycb> jamespage, I might have one
[13:48] <jamespage> coreycb, and then we can review whether we use a venv or suchlike going forward
[13:48] <coreycb> yeah
[13:51] <jamespage> coreycb, the git-kilo ones just fixup git support right?
[13:51] <jamespage> for kilo sorry
[13:51] <coreycb> jamespage, let me double check them
[13:54] <coreycb> jamespage, I need to refresh those
[13:54] <jamespage> coreycb, ok lets prioritize this stuff
[13:54] <jamespage> coreycb, nova-cc first
[13:54] <jamespage> and then the kilo-git stuff so long as its not to late - we have to release today and I don't want to compromise that
[13:54] <jamespage> we can stable update a minimal fix if need be
[13:55] <coreycb> jamespage, ok, testing a change for nova-cc now
[14:28] <mwak> o/
[18:28] <moqq> can someone please confirm for me that calling `relation-set -r <some-id-relation>` for a peer relationship from within a config-changed hook should cause all peer units to get a -relation-changed event
[18:52] <marcoceppi_> moqq: it should so long as you actually change a key for your relation settings
[18:53] <moqq> yeah i just realized the realtion values are per-unit and not per-relation, explains the results i’m getting
[18:53] <moqq> thanks
[19:01] <VijayT> Hello
[19:02] <lazyPower> Hello VijayT
[19:54] <marcoceppi_> o/
[22:43] <mattrae> what's the best way to start container started by juju if the container has been shut down?
[23:05] <lazyPower> mattrae: which provider?
[23:05] <lazyPower> is this local, or a cloud host? and is the container type kvm or lxc?
[23:32] <mattrae> lazyPower: using the maas provider.. deployed the lxc container with --to lxc:1 for example. I think i have the command now though
[23:33] <mattrae> lazyPower: looks like i can do lxc-start --daemon --name foo-bar --rcfile /var/lib/lxc/containers/foo-bar/lxc.conf
[23:33] <lazyPower> mattrae: ok, i was going to suggest looking at sudo lxc-ls --fancy, and starting the container with sudo lxc-start -n <name-of-container>
[23:33] <lazyPower> with -d so you dont lose your terminal
[23:33] <lazyPower> but yeah, that works as well :)
[23:33] <mattrae> oh ok, i actually want to start the container the same way that juju starts it
[23:33] <lazyPower> the config should specify the container to auto-restart however.
[23:34] <mattrae> the reason is only because i've changed the lxc config.. and to reload the config i need to stop and start the container afaik
[23:34] <lazyPower> ah - yes.
[23:34] <lazyPower> glad you figured it out though :)
[23:34] <mattrae> yup thanks for your help :)
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2015-04-23-#xubuntu
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[01:24] <schnoodles> I know its not really xubuntu's thing. But if I wanted to add desktop effects what would be the best package to install ?
[01:26] <xangua> depends on what kind of efects
[01:27] <xangua> I would just enable compositing for shadows
[01:27] <xangua> compton for shadows and fade
[01:28] <xangua> or compiz and have fun with the efects
[01:28] <schnoodles> A friend is coming from windows and they want all the wobbly windows and what not.
[01:31] <xangua> then install compiz in xfce, don't know if the proces is still the same but instead of using xfwm you will need gtk window decorator Or emerald (broken and unmantained)
[01:43] <xubuntu06o> Anyone have directions on how to either burn or image a USB drive with xubuntu so it boots on a mac?
[01:43] <Unit193> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MactelSupportTeam/CommunityHelpPages perhaps? I've never done it.
[01:44] <xubuntu06o> Actually I think this just worked: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2094075
[01:44] <xubuntu06o> chers
[01:44] <xubuntu06o> *cheers
[04:41] <xubuntu56w> Anybody know the time of 15.04 release? Eastern Daylight Time
[04:43] <Unit193> "When it's ready"
[04:46] <JeZxLee> thinking to switch to Xubuntu 15.04 64Bit - Plasma 5 seems to be not great
[06:51] <freiform> Hi, is it possible to make the entries of XFCE's task-switcher <alt+tab> clickable?
[06:57] <freiform> well, never mind. 4.12 to the rescue: http://www.xfce.org/about/tour
[06:57] <Unit193> Yeeep, it's niiice.
[06:58] <Unit193> vivid ships with it, release date tomororow.
[06:58] <Unit193> Only, spelled correctly.
[06:58] <elfy> is it out yet
[06:58] <Unit193> !isitout
[06:58] <Unit193> :D
[06:58] <freiform> just installed the 4.12 packages from the dev-team on 14.10
[06:58] <Unit193> :o
[06:59] <freiform> brb
[08:16] <amari> How do I have tearfree video with vlc in xubuntu? Using intel graphics..
[08:18] <cfhowlett> amari, install intel graphics drivers
[08:18] <amari> cfhowlett: I have the drivers installed (they are already included in the default installation)
[09:30] <KW4HK> !isitsoupyet
[09:32] <knome> KW4HK, no, and please do not start flooding; you can use #ubuntu-release-party for talking the release.
[09:34] * KW4HK stares at knome
[09:34] <knome> KW4HK, yes dear?
[11:03] <decentral1se> guys, anyone had a problem with the Tab key not working? I followed a bunch of links from: http://bit.ly/1EuJJdi
[11:03] <decentral1se> I installed xubuntu on my Thinkpad T60
[11:04] <decentral1se> I get no terminal tab completion, I can't tab through fields on a browser ...
[11:04] <decentral1se> BUT it does work when I hit the AltGr + Tab, then I get completion. But I just want a plain 'ol tab
[13:24] <knob> Good morning everyone! o/
[14:07] <TimeVirus> hello
[14:24] <knob> hey TimeVirus
[14:45] <internetman> will light locker make my home directory become encrypted if I have an encrypted home dir install of course?
[16:21] <Macan3t> Hello to everyone! Is it posible upgrade to 15.04 trough the DVD live?
[16:23] <holstein> Macan3t: AFAIK, from the alternate, if there is still an alternate image, yes.. you can set that as the source, and do the upgrade that way
[16:23] <holstein> i say, the fresh install will be much faster, and preferred..
[16:24] <elfy> holstein: depending on what's installed, it is possible to upgrade via the livesession
[16:25] <holstein> handy.. well, Macan3t is still here :)
[16:25] <elfy> I'd be wary of ppa's though
[16:25] <holstein> i only know how to change the sources to use the iso
[16:26] <Macan3t> so, I have to indicate where to upgrade from in "Sources packages"
[16:28] <elfy> Macan3t: it is possible to upgrade with a live dvd - depending on what you have installed
[16:28] <elfy> and I would be wary of ppa's too
[16:29] <Macan3t> ok
[16:29] <Macan3t> I'm downloading the iso from torrent, then I will add it in the source packages and let see what happen
[16:29] <Macan3t> thanks
[16:30] <holstein> i suggest having backups, regardless..
[16:30] <Macan3t> of course
[16:30] <Macan3t> that is done
[16:31] <holstein> sure. then, just keep in mind, a fresh install usually takes 10 minutes or so
[16:31] <Macan3t> and, in xubuntu works with systemd?
[16:32] <holstein> i would have to refer to https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SystemdForUpstartUsers for information
[16:33] <Macan3t> ok
[16:33] <Macan3t> thank you
[17:26] <oddman2236> Hello room
[17:28] <MrNumber3isme> Hello room
[17:29] <holstein> o/
[17:29] <TimeVirus> yo
[17:29] <MrNumber3isme> I need help with a permissions issue involving my SD card. any thoughts?
[17:32] <holstein> MrNumber3isme: just ask, and a volunteer may assist
[17:32] <holstein> you are likely just trying to read/write a filesystem that needs permission to do so
[17:32] <holstein> ntfs?
[17:32] <MrNumber3isme> Even though the physical lock switch is in the unlocked position, ALL my SD cards mount as read only. using chmod does nothing. the only command I've used with success is mount --options remount,rwx /dev/sdb1
[17:32] <MrNumber3isme> the cards are all fat32
[17:33] <MrNumber3isme> I have a dual boot system with windoze 7, and they open just fine there.
[17:33] <holstein> MrNumber3isme: so, they dont open at all? in ubuntu?
[17:33] <holstein> or, you dont have write access?
[17:33] <MrNumber3isme> No, the cards open, and I can access the files, but it is read only
[17:34] <MrNumber3isme> as I said, using the remount command, I can remount as read/write, but as soon as I change to a different folder within the card, permissions reset to read only
[17:35] <holstein> MrNumber3isme: sounds like, your user doenst have access
[17:35] <holstein> MrNumber3isme: you can ask in #ubuntu if its slow here, and i get disconnected...
[17:35] <MrNumber3isme> the thing that really gets me is I was copying a movie to the card, and halfway through copying, that's when the issue started. it cancelled the copy, and said I do not have the needed permissions.
[17:36] <MrNumber3isme> Yeah .... I already tried #ubuntu. no go
[17:36] <holstein> MrNumber3isme: well, its quite odd what yo uask, and challenging to work out what happened
[17:37] <MrNumber3isme> agreed. that's why I'm on IRC haha
[17:37] <holstein> MrNumber3isme: if you have a way to mount read/write, i would just do that.. and i would make certain you are up to date with upgrades, and booted into the current kernel
[17:37] <holstein> MrNumber3isme: did you make a new user? since the install?
[17:38] <MrNumber3isme> Nope. I'm running the same user I made on a 14.04 install I put on back in may 2014.
[17:38] <holstein> not sure what variables are present here, but, as i read, you have a way to mount the card read/write, correct?
[17:38] <MrNumber3isme> I didn't touch anything while I was copying the movie over.
[17:39] <holstein> MrNumber3isme: you can elaborate about what chown or chmod commands you used
[17:39] <MrNumber3isme> Yes. I move to the folder I want to access, then remount the card as rwx
[17:39] <holstein> i will typically just make a folder, and recursively chown it
[17:39] <MrNumber3isme> chmod 777 -R /dev/sdb1
[17:39] <MrNumber3isme> I've never used chown
[17:40] <holstein> !chown
[17:40] <holstein> you can always test the usb stick or sd cards in a live iso, and see how a default system works with them
[17:41] <MrNumber3isme> I'd imagine it should work with a live distro. I've been using 14.04 since just after it was released, and my problem just started about a month ago.
[17:45] <MrNumber3isme> I'm not very good with reading man pages. how would one use chown?
[17:45] <holstein> MrNumber3isme: i really dont think thats the issue, friend
[17:46] <holstein> MrNumber3isme: i would go to windows with the drives, and see that they are not broken.. double check them.. maybe move the data off one, and reformat there, after testing
[17:46] <MrNumber3isme> Ah. well nevermind then hahaha
[17:47] <holstein> you'll want to have that data backed up, regardless, since those drives *will* fail..
[17:48] <MrNumber3isme> They DO open in windows. I suppose I could give it a shot. Next question. I haven't done any *behind the scenes* kinda work with windows since windows 98. any idea how to format a drive in win 7? or do you think I could just do the work here on Ubuntu, and use gparted?
[17:49] <holstein> MrNumber3isme: you can.. i only suggest windows since i assumed you would be more comfortable there..
[17:49] <holstein> MrNumber3isme: AFAIK, you can just use the disk utility, and do a test..
[17:50] <holstein> if its literally *every* drive formatted fat32, then, its not likely all of them are failing..
[17:50] <MrNumber3isme> Oh no ... Windows is the devil's tool. I only use it for things that require a higher compatibility than wine can offer.
[17:50] <MrNumber3isme> Yeah, it is every drive. (I only have 3, but still)
[17:50] <holstein> MrNumber3isme: sure.. but, did you format these in windows in the first place?
[17:51] <holstein> or, are they just "as shipped" ?
[17:51] <MrNumber3isme> Nope. every one formatted using gparted
[17:51] <holstein> anyways, it wont hurt to take a closer look.. and i would just be isolating as many variables as i can, from top to bottom..
[17:56] <MrNumber3isme> Ruh Roh ..... I tried to open one of them to copy files over, and I got this message
[17:56] <MrNumber3isme> Error mounting system-managed device /dev/sdb1: Command-line `mount "/mnt/sdb1"' exited with non-zero exit status 32: mount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/sdb1,
[17:56] <MrNumber3isme> missing codepage or helper program, or other error
[17:56] <MrNumber3isme> In some cases useful info is found in syslog - try
[17:56] <MrNumber3isme> dmesg | tail or so
[17:56] <holstein> those drives do fail
[17:57] <holstein> i would clean one off, reformat, and test..
[18:00] <MrNumber3isme> k. I've got it now ... it's copying files to my hdd, then I'll reformat.
[18:09] <MrNumber3isme> Hmmm ... after reformatting, the card seems to be fine ..... curious.
[18:34] <McLeod> hello people
[18:35] <MrNumber3isme> Hello McLeod
[18:35] <McLeod> to install AMD Catalyst drivers i use the option "Generate Distribution Specific Driver Package" or "Install Driver 14.501.1003 on X.Org 6.9 or later"?
[18:36] <McLeod> i have a lot of problem installing the privative drivers
[18:36] <MrNumber3isme> beyond my expertise, sorry
[18:37] <brainwash_> McLeod: please ask in #ubuntu
[18:37] <brainwash_> it's a hardware/driver question
[18:37] <drc> McLeod: You might have better luck on #ubuntu ... more eyes there.
[18:38] <McLeod> ok, thanks
[19:33] <knome> !magnets-15.04
[19:34] <bazhang> nice link knome !
[19:34] <bazhang> or magnet
[19:34] <knome> ;)
[19:34] <Unit193> Thanks. :D
[19:55] <Jammerx2> Any vertical panels I place on monitors that aren't leftmost don't reserve space. Horizontal ones work fine, but vertical ones only work on the monitor on the left (which is not the primary monitor).
[19:57] <Jammerx2> Actually it seems it only works on the left/right sides of the edge monitors (e.g. left side of leftmost monitor, right side of rightmost monitor, neither of the 2 middle monitors work anywhere)
[21:52] <amari> Hi, does anyone here know how to eliminate tearing video with VLC in xubuntu?
[21:55] <bazhang> amari does the same occur with smplayer
[23:50] <xubuntu85w> hi there, I'm trying to upgrade from 14.04 to 15.04, but sudo update-manager -d is offering 14.10. would anybody have any idea why?
[23:50] <Unit193> Because you can only jump from release to release, or LTS to LTS, you can't normally skip.
[23:50] <knome> xubuntu85w, you can't upgrade from 14.04 to 15.04 directly, you will need to go through 14.10
[23:51] <xubuntu85w> I was afraid to get this answer :)
[23:52] <xubuntu85w> so there is NO way to upgrade directly, I have to upgrade twice in row, right?
[23:52] <knome> xubuntu85w, no way to upgrade directly
[23:52] <xubuntu85w> okay, thank you
[23:52] <bazhang> fresh upgrade preserve /home
[23:52] <bazhang> otherwise take the steps
[23:53] <xubuntu85w> bazhang: by fresh upgrade you mean reinstall?
[23:53] <xubuntu85w> and copy backed up /home ?
[23:56] <bazhang> reinstall would be the same version, so no
[23:57] <xubuntu85w> ok, fresh install
[23:57] <bazhang> the newer installers have th option to preserve home
[23:57] <bazhang> unless I am badly mistaken
[23:57] <xubuntu85w> ok, thank you
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[06:07] <knightwise> morning everyone
[07:09] <diplo> Morning all
[07:37] <bashrc> morning
[08:34] <Guest73857> Good morning all; happy English Language Day! :-D
[08:35] * Guest73857 eyes his nick suspiciously.
[08:46] <Laney> good old Guest73857
[08:46] <directhex_> i miss Guest73857
[08:50] <bashrc_> happy ubuntu release day
[08:50] <directhex_> but i only just downloaded the beta! :'(
[08:52] <Laney> just an apt upgrade away
[08:56] <foobarry> http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/newsbysector/mediatechnologyandtelecoms/digital-media/11556838/UK-set-top-box-maker-Pace-bought-by-US-firm-for-1.4bn.html
[08:56] <foobarry> the register will probably have a souvenir pull out guide
[08:59] <awilkins> Wow, Pace
[08:59] <awilkins> I had one of the ISA modem cards.
[08:59] <awilkins> Lovely bit of kit, none of your Winmodem rubbish
[09:04] <foobarry> wow. metro are publishing "news" that are actually 8 month old reddit posts now
[09:04] <foobarry> not even new ones
[09:04] <foobarry> http://metro.co.uk/2015/04/21/is-this-the-ghost-of-a-samurai-soldier-standing-behind-a-little-girl-5160401/
[09:04] <foobarry> turns out to be this http://www.reddit.com/r/UnexplainedPhotos/comments/2e60an/disturbing_photo_feedback_xpost_from_rghosts/
[09:12] <bashrc_> churnalism?
[09:13] <foobarry> also, its just a person standing behind her
[09:14] <foobarry> which you can see more clearly inthe reddit link that they refer to but don't link to
[09:14] <foobarry> he is wearing a light blue shirt
[09:22] <brobostigon> morning boys and girls.
[09:37] <Hazed> good morning all. does anyone know the release time for 15.04?
[09:38] <Myrtti> afternoon UK time usually
[09:38] <Myrtti> there is no set moment.
[09:38] <Hazed> brilliant, thank you for clearing that up :)
[09:39] <Myrtti> note: usually doesn't mean that it's guaranteed.
[09:39] <Myrtti> for all I know it could be five minutes away
[09:39] <Hazed> make sense
[09:39] * popey looks over at the release team
[09:39] <popey> they don't seem too stressed :)
[09:39] <Hazed> lol
[09:39] <popey> beer at 17:30 apparently
[09:39] <popey> so sometime before then
[09:39] <Hazed> sounds good idea
[09:42] <davmor2> popey: you off to Ye Olde London Town Today?
[10:31] <popey> davmor2: am here, yes
[10:32] <davmor2> popey: \o/ tell them not to get too drunk there is more work tomorrow
[10:32] <popey> heh
[10:44] <awilkins> !isitoutyet
[10:44] <lubotu3`> Did I SAY it was out? Maybe if you would LISTEN once in a while this relationship would be healthier.
[10:44] <awilkins> !isitinyet
[10:44] <awilkins> Boo! Opportunity missed there
[10:51] <directhex_> filthy.
[11:09] <bashrc_> it is not out
[12:38] <davmor2> So I got this tune stuck in my head https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fy2indWyr74
[12:38] <directhex_> so. w-series name speculation?
[12:39] <directhex_> wistful wombat!
[12:39] <davmor2> wasclin' wabbit
[12:40] <zmoylan-pi> wary winkle
[12:40] <awilkins> Rather more overt versions of Onanistic Ocelot?
[12:40] <davmor2> wonderful wizbit
[12:40] <davmor2> whopping willow
[12:40] <awilkins> Whomping
[12:40] <davmor2> whomping even
[12:40] <awilkins> I think whoever manages JKR would whomp Canonicals butt for that
[12:41] <davmor2> worried whippet
[12:42] <davmor2> wobbly weeble is my favourite though
[12:43] * awilkins looks at list of South African mammals
[12:43] <awilkins> "Waterbuck"
[12:43] <deckchair_turpin> when they get to x the animals are limited a little
[12:45] <davmor2> deckchair_turpin: get off my lawn with your deckchair
[12:45] * deckchair_turpin hums abide with me
[12:46] * popey thought that was someone else for a moment then.
[12:46] <deckchair_turpin> annoying someone else in another channel... :-)
[12:59] <awilkins> Xamarin is already taken
[13:18] * awilkins hears Transmission go *ding*
[13:19] <awilkins> !isitout
[13:19] <lubotu3`> Did I SAY it was out? Maybe if you would LISTEN once in a while this relationship would be healthier.
[13:20] <awilkins> Astonishing how many people still use Microtorrent
[13:21] <awilkins> I heard it had gone all bloaty bloatware
[13:22] * Myrtti goes back to playing Cities Skylines while waiting for 15.04 to happen
[13:30] <bashrc_> it is not out
[13:33] <foobarry> do i need to chroot sftp if users can't login with ssh?
[13:35] <foobarry> i think so
[13:38] <awilkins> I remember a few years ago, you'd get kicked for saying it was out before it was officially announced, that still the case?
[13:41] <foobarry> 4od app sucks
[13:41] <foobarry> whatever its called noawadays
[13:41] <foobarry> all4
[13:42] <foobarry> they make you feel dirty and desperate for wanting to watch a programme
[13:42] <popey> +1
[13:48] <dogmatic69> what is the best option to share a folder from linux to windows?
[13:49] <diplo> Depends how much sophistication you're after ?
[13:49] <diplo> and desktop or cli
[13:49] <dogmatic69> I want to have a git repo on test server, shared to windows so it can be opened in editor and edited
[13:49] <diplo> If I just want to share a folder quickly from desktop I just rick click and share it
[13:50] <dogmatic69> all the commite etc will happen on the server, literally just to edit files
[13:50] <dogmatic69> and its server cli -> win desktop
[13:50] <awilkins> Well, you could
[13:50] <davmor2> dogmatic69: a usb pendrive?
[13:50] <diplo> I do that via sftp myself, use winscp on my laptop, open with Sublime and Ctrl S and winscp saves it back
[13:50] <awilkins> Does "Best" mean easiest?
[13:50] <foobarry> smb ?
[13:50] <foobarry> same lan?
[13:50] <awilkins> Easiest is SMB / CIFS
[13:51] <dogmatic69> best means easy / reliable
[13:51] <davmor2> I'm still going with usb pendrive
[13:51] <foobarry> depends on the user
[13:51] <awilkins> All the software available in the repo or pre-installed, nothing to install on Winders box
[13:51] <dogmatic69> lol
[13:51] <dogmatic69> its php
[13:51] <foobarry> owncloud?
[13:51] <awilkins> Syncthing
[13:51] <awilkins> Syncthing : like Dropbox but the NSA doesn't get a lookin
[13:52] <dogmatic69> currently its the other way round, the repo is on windows and shared to linux but that is lame
[13:53] <awilkins> Why's that lame? Do you want your website clients to be able to access your full source code history?
[13:53] <dogmatic69> its dev server
[13:53] <dogmatic69> windows keeps locking files and breaks ability to edit from the server / delete etc.
[13:53] <dogmatic69> things like composer die because the files are locked
[13:53] <davmor2> dogmatic69: right click on the, local network share. failing that, dropbox, sycnthing, bittorrent sync, USB PENDRIVE!!!!!
[13:54] <davmor2> right click on the folder that should of read
[13:54] <dogmatic69> davmor2: usb wont work because its a virtual linux machine...
[13:54] <davmor2> dogmatic69: most vms allow a shared folder between host and client
[13:55] <dogmatic69> the host is a windows client, not the desktop used.
[13:55] <dogmatic69> windows server sorry...
[13:56] <davmor2> dogmatic69: yeap still most vm's as in the software that the client runs in can share a folder with the host
[13:56] <davmor2> the client can then access it
[13:56] <dogmatic69> davmor2: the point is that nobody is using the windows server hosting the linux server so it would be pointless to share anything there.
[13:56] <dogmatic69> I will try out smb
[13:58] <davmor2> dogmatic69: it's a server just drop the folder in /home/<user> and ssh it
[14:39] <awilkins> Does Ubuntu support bcache + full disk encryption in the installer yet?
[14:39] <zleap> hi, are we expecting 15.04 to be out this week
[14:39] <zleap> ?
[14:43] <bigcalm> !isitoutyet
[14:43] <lubotu3`> Did I SAY it was out? Maybe if you would LISTEN once in a while this relationship would be healthier.
[14:43] <bigcalm> Awww
[14:45] <bigcalm> I don't think that's a very nice response
[14:45] <ChunkzZ> zleap, suppose to be today.
[14:46] <zleap> ChunkzZ: thanks, i did see something about it being some time soon
[14:46] <zleap> ok will keep an eye out for news
[15:16] <davmor2> directhex_: as for w release I'm still hanging in there for Wheres Wally
[15:17] <directhex_> woeful wendigo
[15:17] <directhex_> winter walrus!
[15:22] <awilkins> Wet Wombat
[15:31] <diddledan> wiotous wossy?
[15:32] <diddledan> (ref: jonathan ross)
[15:32] <diddledan> are we landing today or next thursday?
[15:34] <diddledan> looks like it's due today according to the releaseschedule page
[15:41] <davmor2> diddledan: it's released already
[15:41] <diddledan> !isitoutyet
[15:41] <lubotu3`> YES! ITS OUT: https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-announce/2015-April/000195.html
[15:41] <diddledan> oh so it is
[15:42] <davmor2> diddledan: told you
[15:42] <diddledan> smartass :-p
[15:43] <davmor2> diddledan: no I can just read email headers :P
[15:43] <diddledan> I've not checked my email yet today
[15:43] <diddledan> head in the sand :-0p
[15:43] <TheOpenSourcerer> Is it out yet?
[15:44] <diddledan> lol
[15:44] <diddledan> not just me, see?
[15:44] <diddledan> TheOpenSourcerer: yes
[15:44] <TheOpenSourcerer> Not been on here for *ages*...
[15:44] <TheOpenSourcerer> Is it? Oooh?
[15:44] <TheOpenSourcerer> Must try upgrading at the weekend then.
[15:45] <TheOpenSourcerer> Talking of the weekend... popey, czajkowski, AlanBell, shall we meet at the Cobbett for a pre-beerex snort?
[15:45] <popey> yes
[15:46] <TheOpenSourcerer> \o/
[15:46] <TheOpenSourcerer> 5pm (ish)
[15:46] <davmor2> popey: man your arm must hurt from all that twisting
[15:47] <popey> hah
[15:47] <popey> TheOpenSourcerer: ya
[15:47] <TheOpenSourcerer> lol
[15:47] <diddledan> davmor2: I'm impressed how long popey held out on that one
[15:48] <popey> i am in two meetings too
[15:48] <diddledan> zo/
[15:48] <diddledan> oops
[15:48] <diddledan> \o/
[15:49] <diddledan> zo/ is walking like an egyptian?
[15:50] <davmor2> diddledan: no it's more he has this psychic net awareness for the words beer and popey
[15:50] <diddledan> :-)
[15:54] <popey> \o/
[15:59] <awilkins> What's the go-to for lightweight Ubuntu for old laptops? MATE, Xub, or Lub?
[15:59] <davmor2> awilkins: depends on usage and age. x or l though
[16:00] <czajkowski> TheOpenSourcerer: shall pass it onto Jon
[16:00] <awilkins> Age? Of the hardware?
[16:01] <davmor2> awilkins: yeah
[16:01] <awilkins> For a moment thought "Age of the user... and whether they are addicted to Windows or not"
[16:04] <popey> awilkins: MATE!
[16:05] <awilkins> MATE for Winders addicts or for ageing hardware?
[16:05] <awilkins> or both?
[16:05] <TheOpenSourcerer> ttfn
[16:06] <popey> both
[16:06] <ali1234> for windows addicts unity is best, since they are used to bad user interfaces already :P
[16:06] <awilkins> OOh, No.1 reason to upgrade to Vivid : the annoying black window bug
[16:06] <awilkins> ali1234, I actually like Unity
[16:06] <awilkins> Esp. the HUDmenu
[16:07] <ali1234> yeah my dad loves it too
[16:07] <ali1234> he doesn't use HUD menu though, he doesn't even use normal menus
[16:08] <awilkins> "rationalized 3rd party library managers"
[16:08] <awilkins> Wootage!
[16:09] <awilkins> Does that mean the packaged versions of 3rd party libmans behave like this, or ones you install from source etc do?
[16:09] <ali1234> context?
[16:09] <awilkins> "We also rationalized 3rd party library managers so that they all behave the same and don't overwrite and/or mix with system libraries. Developers don't have to worry about messing up up their installation if they want to install a pipy, npm, rubygem libraries."
[16:10] <ali1234> oh. well python has been fixed in that regard since at least 14.04
[16:10] <ali1234> for both pip and source installs
[16:10] <awilkins> Mentioned in the context of Ubuntu Make
[16:10] <awilkins> Which sounds cool
[16:10] <awilkins> Because it can install Eclipse
[16:10] <ali1234> oh ubuntu make? that's just a script that downloads things
[16:11] <awilkins> Has an official mention in relnotes!
[16:11] <ali1234> the way that works is by putting everything in folders in your home dir
[16:11] <ali1234> at least that's how it used to work
[16:11] <awilkins> this is how I usually use Eclipse
[16:11] <awilkins> Install the packaged version for the deps
[16:11] <ali1234> then it edits your .bashrc and adds paths
[16:12] <awilkins> And then install the newest one by downloading and unpacking the tarball
[16:12] <ali1234> it does install some things from packages, when it can
[16:12] <ali1234> yeah dependencies mainly :)
[16:13] <awilkins> Yarrrg, Can't believe that the packaged version of Eclipse for vivid is STILL 3.8.1
[16:13] <ali1234> i found ubuntu-make to be a bit pointless, but i only tried it with android
[16:13] <bigcalm> !isitoutyet
[16:13] <lubotu3`> YES! ITS OUT: https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-announce/2015-April/000195.html
[16:13] <davmor2> awilkins: it is an easy way for devs to get the tools they need to develop for various platforms. so ubuntu-make android would grab all the dev tools you need for android etc
[16:13] <ali1234> basically all it does is download the sdk installer and unpack it
[16:13] <ali1234> you still have to go through the whole process of opening the SDK manager and downloading all the SDK components
[16:15] <awilkins> I think it's time for a fresh install TBH
[16:15] <ali1234> also i find it very odd that umake doesn't appear to be able to install the ubuntu sdk
[16:15] <awilkins> My /home partition is a bit cloggy
[16:15] <awilkins> And I have to encrypt everything because our new security dude says so
[16:16] <awilkins> What I want ; full disk encryption + bcache
[16:16] <awilkins> Anyone know of a guide that combines both or am I going to have to write one?
[16:18] <Myrtti> No new release found ;___;
[16:18] <awilkins> http://releases.ubuntu.com/15.04/
[16:20] <Myrtti> myrtti@eeyore:~$ sudo do-release-upgradeChecking for a new Ubuntu release
[16:20] <Myrtti> No new release found
[16:20] <Myrtti> I'm just whining
[16:20] <Myrtti> nevermind me
[16:21] <daftykins> diddledan: heyup, are you a drupal fiend? my mate has this site he dev'd on his Windows box at home, but on throwing it up on his hosting - if you log in, his menu disappears XD
[16:21] <awilkins> Myrtti, are you on 14.04?
[16:22] <diddledan> funky
[16:22] <daftykins> diddledan: works perfectly on my bytemark VPS however
[16:22] <diddledan> is this the admin menu?
[16:22] <ali1234> case sensitive filename issues?
[16:22] <diddledan> along the top of the page?
[16:22] <Myrtti> awilkins: nope
[16:22] <daftykins> nah not the very top, just his own navigation menu that's part of the page
[16:23] <Myrtti> ... not that I know of...
[16:23] <Myrtti> or AM I
[16:23] <daftykins> lsb_release -d
[16:23] <Myrtti> no I'm not.
[16:23] <daftykins> all the cool kids run LTS
[16:23] <awilkins> I'm running LTS. But since I have to reinstall anyway...
[16:23] <diddledan> ok. possibly the "block" got messed up or removed - try as adming going to "structure->blocks" and see if the menu block isw in the right place
[16:24] <diddledan> "for all evilness requirements, just add ming"
[16:24] <daftykins> diddledan: ty sir, shall pass that on. would it be of any use if you could take a quick glance at the page? or would it require login and all that jazz to really understand?
[16:25] <diddledan> I can have a nosey, but probably can't tell without being admin
[16:25] <daftykins> that can be easily arranged ^_^
[16:25] <ali1234> how is the customization implemented?
[16:25] <Myrtti> yay new ubuntu \o/
[16:25] <ali1234> is it a theme, plugin, or just hacked wp core?
[16:26] <diddledan> ali1234: it's drupal :-p
[16:26] <ali1234> oh snap
[16:26] <ali1234> then i have no idea
[16:26] <ali1234> for some reason i read that as wordpress
[16:26] <diddledan> teehee
[16:26] <diddledan> wishful thinking~?
[16:26] <ali1234> yeah probably
[16:27] <daftykins> i did try to get this mate to buy a wordpress theme since i understand setting it up
[16:27] <ali1234> i don't understand how wordpress got "most feared technology" over drupal and joomla
[16:27] <daftykins> but he enjoys learning web dev so he felt like giving it a stab himself ;) despite my warning of issues...
[16:27] <ali1234> maybe because nobody uses drupal and joomla
[16:28] <diddledan> I think because drupal and joomla are actually difficult to work people tend to leave it to professionals whereas they feel that they can fiddle with wordpress and thus more people hate it because they don't understand enough about what they're doing and therefore it crashes around their earsw
[16:29] <daftykins> :D
[16:29] <diddledan> drupal devs seem to be paid more than an equivalent wordpress dev :-(
[16:29] <ali1234> that is largely because drupal is designed to maximize consultancy fees
[16:31] <daftykins> this mate had the idea that wordpress might end up limiting him, whereas drupal might be capable of it all
[16:31] <ali1234> ironically drupal is capable of almost nothing out of the box
[16:31] <daftykins> i tried to suggest his inexperience might mean security woes or drama in the future :P
[16:31] <ali1234> it's basically a platform that can be used to sell extensions that do what the client wants
[16:32] <diddledan> well done:-)
[16:32] <daftykins> hmm my Nexus 4 is offering me android 5.1 as of last night
[16:32] <diddledan> ooh
[16:32] <ali1234> don't upgrade, 5.1 is a lemon
[16:33] <diddledan> lemon sherbert?
[16:33] <diddledan> (that's a dessert, right? :-p)
[16:34] <daftykins> to be honest as directhex_ once described it, android has been going all Windows on me since i installed 5.0 anyway
[16:34] <daftykins> normally i do a factory reset for new versions, but i didn't so far and have been enjoying all kinds of quirks
[16:34] <ali1234> you already have 5.0? well, 5.1 isn't really any worse
[16:34] <directhex_> moop?
[16:34] <ali1234> might as well upgrade then
[16:34] <daftykins> directhex_: android as a flakey Windows going wrong as time goes on :>
[16:34] <daftykins> heh yeah
[16:34] <directhex_> well, it does!
[16:35] <directhex_> win98!
[16:35] <diddledan> ctrl+alt+del?
[16:35] <ali1234> unlike win98 you can't wipe and reinstall to fix it
[16:35] <ali1234> you have to flash back to an unsupported and insecure image, or buy a new phone
[16:35] <directhex_> http://www.windowscentral.com/sites/wpcentral.com/files/postimages/15741/lumia900win98.png
[16:41] <diddledan> heh, linux voice june arrived today - their headline article is misnamed: "HACK THE WEB" <-- shouldn't WEB be Planet?
[16:42] <daftykins> i would hope so
[16:42] <daftykins> missing out on a great reference otherwise
[16:42] <diddledan> they got an interview with larry wall. I wonder if perl6 is every going to arrive as a separate entity or if the ideas are just gonna get made into modules and put in the CPAN for perl5
[16:44] <diddledan> the perl6 switch syntax has been in CPAN for perl5 use since almost before perl6 was an idea
[16:44] <diddledan> instead of "switch $foo { case 'bar': }" you get "given $foo { when 'bar': }"
[16:45] <diddledan> I don't get why they changed it tbh
[16:47] <daftykins> keeps you on your toes
[16:49] * Myrtti checks the calendar
[16:50] <davmor2> diddledan: it's a three stage plan, First the web, then the cars, then the world muhahahahahahahahahahahaha!!! doesn't sound so sinister with that kinda laugh at the end :D
[16:52] <daftykins> XD
[16:54] <diddledan> Myrtti: is it the end of the world yet?
[16:55] <Myrtti> yup
[17:06] <Myrtti> I hope that perl error wasn't something that breaks things Badly
[17:18] <MartijnVdS> Perl! What error?
[17:29] <Myrtti> new Ubuntu!
[17:30] <Myrtti> MartijnVdS: sadly I couldn't get a copypaste of it
[17:43] <diddledan> don't you love how politicians like to tell you about the affairs of state but not about the state of their numerous affairs
[17:43] <diddledan> :-p
[17:43] <diddledan> scandalous!
[17:44] <diddledan> you wouldn't catch me having an affair when I'm PM
[17:44] <diddledan> (I'm still single, so an affair can't be had until that situation is remedied first :-p)
[17:47] <daftykins> ;)
[17:52] <diddledan> netflix are pushing 40Gbit/s through freebsd boxes (each box pushing 40Gbit/s
[17:52] <diddledan> ref: http://www.jupiterbroadcasting.com/81017/business-as-usual-bsd-now-86/
[17:56] <daftykins> Costa have emailed me to say they're resetting all passwords!
[17:56] <daftykins> *gasp*
[17:56] <zleap> daftykins: has someone hacked them then
[17:57] <davmor2> hahahahaha
[17:57] <daftykins> We are writing to let you know that we recently identified a small number of Coffee Club card members (around 0.02%) with some unusual activity on their accounts.
[17:57] <daftykins> As a result we've conducted a full security review and in the interim, removed the ability to access your Coffee Club account online.
[17:57] <davmor2> I like how are minds go straight to they must of been hacked :D
[17:58] <daftykins> pretty logical conclusion :>
[18:03] <zleap> yeah
[18:08] <DJones> Ah well,that was smooth and fast upgrade & working with no issues
[18:28] <Myrtti> someone's nvidia got hosed on the upgrade...
[18:28] <Myrtti> bah
[18:29] <ali1234> didn;t you have to install some PPA to make it work?
[18:30] <Myrtti> there is a reason why my personal laptop has only nvidia...
[18:30] <Myrtti> er, Intel
[18:31] <davmor2> Myrtti: oh is that so it breaks nearly as often as nvidia and amd?
[18:31] <ali1234> as long as you only have one or the other you are pretty much sorted
[18:31] <daftykins> :D
[18:31] <Myrtti> having both is the road to distruction
[18:31] <Myrtti> it seems
[18:31] <ali1234> indeed
[18:31] <Myrtti> I have only Intel. He has Intel and Nvidia.
[18:32] <davmor2> Myrtti: so do I I have no issues
[18:32] <davmor2> Myrtti: but then I do fresh installs :D
[18:32] <Myrtti> davmor2: that's a non-answer
[18:32] <Myrtti> "I have Cheese. He has Cheese and Ham" "So do I"
[18:32] <Myrtti> ok.
[18:33] <Myrtti> my Venn diagram says you have atleast Intel then
[18:33] <daftykins> somebody installed nvidia drivers inappropriately!
[18:33] * daftykins tuts
[18:34] <davmor2> Myrtti: I have a Prime setup so intel and nvidia. I have no issues with it but then I do fresh installs rather than upgrades
[18:34] <Myrtti> yeah, well, I suggested that we'd try to upgrade first so we don't have to futz around with the Broadcom wifi driver, and see if it works.
[18:34] <Myrtti> and if it gets hosed beyond all recognition, then do a clean install
[18:35] <davmor2> Myrtti: because he has both he can just uninstall the nvidia binary and fall back to the intel and then sort things out then install the nvidia drivers
[18:36] <davmor2> Myrtti: it might be that the ppa got disabled during the upgrade and he got reverted to older not working nvidia drivers
[18:36] <Myrtti> yeah, the problem was for a moment to figure out how to make lightdm not restart every three seconds
[18:36] <Myrtti> then how to get to grub menu
[18:36] <Myrtti> then how to get the laptop to use Intel instead of Nvidia
[18:37] <daftykins> does that by default with all nvidia packages purged
[18:37] <diddledan> it annoys me that the grub menu can't be accessed with some weird keypress that I haven't worked out
[18:37] <diddledan> without**
[18:37] <daftykins> unless it's one where you can select which to use in the BIOS, but they're in the minority
[18:37] <davmor2> diddledan: right shift key
[18:37] <diddledan> oh, _RIGHT_ shift!?!
[18:38] <diddledan> well why can't it just be any shift?!!!!!1!
[18:38] <daftykins> is this on a mac?
[18:38] <davmor2> diddledan: just keep tapping at it once the boot splash for the bios/uefi disappears
[18:38] <davmor2> diddledan: I don't make up the rules :)
[18:38] <ali1234> it's left shift isn;t it?
[18:38] <ali1234> and you just hold it down
[18:39] <ali1234> the whole point of using shift for this is it doesn't cause a keyboard stuck error when held down, so it requires no delay
[18:39] <Myrtti> Esc was the magic grub key in this case
[18:39] <diddledan> see how difficult it is?! ali1234 uses left shift, davmor2 uses right, and I can't get any damn thing to work
[18:39] <diddledan> I've tried esc in the past, too
[18:39] <diddledan> and ctrl
[18:40] <diddledan> and numerous others
[18:40] <diddledan> windows is just as bad at this concept
[18:40] <ali1234> USB keyboard?
[18:40] <diddledan> or should that be "ubuntu is as bad as windows at this"
[18:40] <davmor2> diddledan: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecoveryMode so just shift key it appears
[18:41] <ali1234> maybe you don't have it plugged in to the magic USB boot mode port?
[18:41] <diddledan> o_O
[18:41] <daftykins> or your BIOS has legacy USB support ruining your day
[18:41] <ali1234> or you disabled legacy USB support?
[18:42] <davmor2> or your keyboard hates you
[18:42] <ali1234> yeah could be one of those gaming keyboards that isn't a real HID device
[18:44] <davmor2> maybe someone hates you and switched your control and shift key ribbons, but why I'd travel all that way is beyond me ;)
[18:45] <daftykins> :D
[18:47] <davmor2> I got gremlins you fed the mogwai after midnight didn't you
[18:48] <davmor2> I got it, even
[18:48] <diddledan> you sussed!
[18:50] <davmor2> diddledan: thanks for playing the game it makes it much more fun :)
[18:50] <diddledan> oh damn you! now I've losty
[18:50] <diddledan> --y
[18:51] <diddledan> and also everyone in here has now lost the game!
[18:53] <daftykins> i never paid attention to that one :P
[18:53] <daftykins> there's no inherent reason to care :D
[18:54] <diddledan> that just makes you lose harder :-p
[18:55] <davmor2> daftykins: http://bit.ly/1deDV7O
[18:57] <daftykins> yeah but childish
[18:57] <davmor2> daftykins: but fun
[18:57] <daftykins> not to my mind :D
[18:58] <davmor2> daftykins: I mean I know diddledan just lost again if he followed the link and who can't follow a random link when it is pasted there for others to see ;)
[19:10] * diddledan drools: https://twitter.com/WTFitsKatie/status/589399853110800384
[19:12] <daftykins> nice
[19:13] <diddledan> follow-up: https://twitter.com/WTFitsKatie/status/589544002648670208
[19:13] <daftykins> bit excessive on the cable ties though.
[19:21] <ali1234> i always wonder what happens when they need to replace a cable
[19:21] <ali1234> does someone have to remove every single cable tie from the entire rack and then put them all back again?
[19:22] <daftykins> :>
[19:22] <ali1234> or do they just let it get messy and then tidy it up when it gets too bad?
[19:22] <ali1234> i know which one i would do
[19:23] <daftykins> you would definitely think that there must be a better way to achieve what's pictured if they all just need to be like they are
[19:25] <intrbiz> all nicely labeled too, thats what I like to see
[19:26] <intrbiz> for neat cables, never be affraid to undo all your cable ties and redo them, the velco ties are well worth it
[19:49] <diddledan> http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-32422193
[20:07] <diddledan> I've got an urge to binge-watch star warts
[20:08] <diddledan> maybe watch some spaceballs too
[20:11] <daftykins> ^_^
[20:54] <diddledan> payday tomoz
[20:54] <diddledan> wonder whether I should order me some hdds
[20:55] <diddledan> though rent comes first I guess :-p
[20:58] <daftykins> :D
[20:58] <daftykins> what storage are we upgrading?
[20:59] * daftykins watches the new install / upgrade woes flood into #ubuntu
[20:59] <diddledan> it'll be on my NAS
[20:59] <diddledan> I say "NAS" it's a freenas-running pc
[20:59] <daftykins> ah-har
[20:59] <daftykins> eh close enough :>
[23:04] <m0nkey_> wait.. diddledan, you run freenas?
[23:04] <diddledan> indeed
[23:05] <m0nkey_> let me guess, some desktop PC, lacking ECC. lol
[23:05] <diddledan> yup
[23:05] <m0nkey_> for shame
[23:05] <diddledan> :-p
[23:05] <m0nkey_> don't ever go to #freenas unless you're running recommended hardware :)
[23:05] <diddledan> lol
[23:05] <diddledan> are they zealots?
[23:05] * m0nkey_ pets his E3 Xeon w/16GB ECC RAM.
[23:06] <m0nkey_> they can be
[23:06] * diddledan drools all over it
[23:06] <m0nkey_> as long as you're not an ass about taking advise
[23:06] <m0nkey_> transcode a movie in 3 mins on that sucker
[23:06] <diddledan> yikes
[23:06] <diddledan> that's a beast
[23:07] <m0nkey_> plex runs on it
[23:08] <diddledan> ditto
[23:08] <m0nkey_> youre not sharing anything :P
[23:11] <m0nkey_> let me see your movies and tv shows
[23:15] <m0nkey_> says you unavailable
[23:15] <diddledan> :-(
[23:15] <diddledan> hmm
[23:15] <m0nkey_> you got your port open?
[23:15] <diddledan> should have
[23:16] <diddledan> lemmedouble check
[23:17] <m0nkey_> you see mine?
[23:18] <diddledan> yup I've got yours fine
[23:18] <m0nkey_> under Server > Remote Access .. it says fully accessible?
[23:19] <diddledan> hmm, it's not available from outside
[23:19] <m0nkey_> forward your port :P
[23:20] <m0nkey_> or use upnp
[23:20] <diddledan> aha, I might be pointing to thewrong ip
[23:21] <diddledan> there we go
[23:22] <m0nkey_> i see it now
[23:22] <m0nkey_> just dont go nuts
[23:22] <diddledan> :-p
[23:23] <diddledan> are you capped?
[23:23] <m0nkey_> uploads are not
[23:23] <diddledan> aah ok
[23:23] <m0nkey_> just limited bandwidth
[23:25] <m0nkey_> all i ask that if youre using it during my day, to go easy. i sometimes work from home and need the bandwidth
[23:26] <m0nkey_> you need more movies :P
[23:26] <diddledan> indeed :-p
[23:26] <diddledan> I'm working on it :-D
[23:26] <m0nkey_> 158 on mine so far
[23:27] <m0nkey_> sadly, only a few good ones lol
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[05:11] <_pingu> mp3splt install fehler: Ich bin den Angaben hier gefolgt http://mp3splt.sourceforge.net/mp3splt_page/debian_downloads.php?version=Trusty&ubuntu=true und bekomme folgenden Fehler: https://gist.github.com/anonymous/e0c52b15bd511bd8a951
[05:11] <kubine> _pingu: Title: mp3splt project - ubuntu downloads (at mp3splt.sourceforge.net)
[05:53] <_pingu> mp3splt install fehler: Ich bin den Angaben hier gefolgt http://mp3splt.sourceforge.net/mp3splt_page/debian_downloads.php?version=Trusty&ubuntu=true und bekomme folgenden Fehler: https://gist.github.com/anonymous/278d3c04404b97bb631c
[05:53] <kubine> _pingu: Title: mp3splt project - ubuntu downloads (at mp3splt.sourceforge.net)
[08:28] <ShiroNeko> hallo, mal eine frage zu klipper. gibt es einen möglichkeit den verlauf automatisch leeren zu lassen oder ganz zu deaktivieren?
[08:41] <cup`ocoffee> ShiroNeko: Also erstmal kannst du Klipper ganz einfach beenden…
[08:42] <cup`ocoffee> ShiroNeko: Dann kann man Klipper auch einstellen (mit der rechten Maustauste) - und den Verlaufsspeicher begrenzen.
[08:42] <cup`ocoffee> da lassen sich noch andere Dinge einstellen :)
[08:43] <cup`ocoffee> Was ist Dein Problem mit Klipper?
[08:45] <k1l> vlt kopiert er ja urls die ihm nachher peinlich sind :)
[08:46] <cup`ocoffee> oO ^^
[08:46] <cup`ocoffee> also: man sollte auch periodisch löschen können oder ähnliches …sollte mit etwas handarbeit möglich sein…
[08:47] <cup`ocoffee> ansonsten kurz & knapp: beenden und bei bedarf neu starten…
[13:01] <hasan> hi all. ich hab ein seltsames problem. mein ClientAliveInterval und ClientMaxCount im sshd_config gehen nicht. ich setzte mein interval auf 10 sekunden, und max count auf 0. nach also 10 sekunden sollte ich nen timeout triggern und sshd sollte mich ausloggen
[13:01] <hasan> es funktioniert aber nicht.
[13:30] <LetoThe2nd> hasan: ich vermute mal, dass sich das auf clients bezieht die tatsächlich inaktiv sind. ein ssh-client sendet aber üblicherweise ein keepalive-signal
[13:34] <LetoThe2nd> hasan: nach kruzem googlen vermute ich, dass der TMOUT-wert der bash eher das ist was du suchst
[13:36] <PachiriSuu> servus
[13:59] <PachiriSuu> servus
[13:59] <PachiriSuu> servus
[14:14] <PachiriSuu> servus
[14:15] <PachiriSuu> servus
[14:19] <PachiriSuu> servus
[16:04] <josh123> Hi, habe meine externe Festplatte aus Versehen mit sudo dd if=kubuntu-15.04-desktop-amd64.iso of=/dev/sdb überschrieben. Allerdings wurden "nur" 23 MB gecshrieben... Platte hat 1 TB
[16:04] <josh123> gibt es hoffnung, dass ich die bspw. die partitionstabelle wiederherstellen kann
[16:05] <josh123> und das dann einfach nur an max 23 mb an daten "verloren" sind?
[16:05] <josh123> im besten falle wären das dann dateien, die nicht "wertvoll " sind
[16:05] <josh123> -an
[16:06] <ppq> naja, die ersten 23 MB sind jetzt weg, auch die partitionstabelle und der anfang der partition. damit ist das dateisystem erstmal irreparabel kaputt. einzelne dateien wirst du mit viel aufwand zwar wiederherstellen können, wahrscheinlich sogar recht viele, musst wissen ob es dir das wert ist
[16:07] <ppq> was für ein dateisystem war auf der ext. hdd?
[16:07] <josh123> ich vermute ext4
[16:07] <josh123> allenfalls ntfs
[16:07] <ppq> das wäre schon wichtig ;)
[16:07] <k1l_> ich vermute eher ntfs oder fat
[16:07] <josh123> ich glaube ich hatte ext4 formatiert
[16:07] <k1l_> weil ext* hättest selber draufballern müssen und das wäre halt nur an linux rechnern tauglich
[16:07] <josh123> würde ich zu 90% unterschreiben
[16:07] <josh123> ja
[16:08] <josh123> hier gibt es auch kein windows mehr ^^
[16:08] <josh123> so eine dämliche unachtsamkeit...
[16:08] <k1l_> computer sind halt so doof wie die befehle die man ihnen gibt :)
[16:08] <nagetier> der horror, für jeden der dd einsetzt
[16:09] <josh123> ja, richtig k1l_ !
[16:09] <josh123> wie haltet ihr die chancen
[16:09] <josh123> wenn das dateisystem also bekannt ist
[16:09] <k1l_> du kannst halt schon gucken ob er die partitionstabelle und evtl das FS retten kann. aber "alles bis auf die 23mb findet der wieder" dafür müsste schon alles richtig rund laufen.
[16:10] <ppq> erstell mit gparted eine partitionstabelle und eine partition und bete, dass die neue partition dort anfängt wo auch die alte anfing. dann mal ein fsck auf die partition loslassen und gucken, ob das noch etwas retten kann
[16:10] <josh123> habe mit der gui gparted gpart laufen lassen(also "datenrettung versuchen") er sagt: Der Einlesevorgang von gpart fand keine erkennbaren Dateisysteme auf diesem Datenträger.
[16:11] <josh123> kann ich durch deinen tipp "mehr kaputtmachen" als eh schon kaputt ist? ppq
[16:11] <ppq> achso, bevor du irgendwas machst: image erstellen, dann hast du mehr als einen versuch#
[16:11] <ppq> ja
[16:13] <jokrebel> definitiv
[16:13] <josh123> ppq kannst du mir dabei helfen... mit dateisystemen habe ich mich bis jetzt nicht wirklich auseinandergesetzt bis auf formatieren und andere kleinigkeiten... ich gehe davon aus, dass ich nicht einfach nur dateien von a nach b kopieren werde sondern das image erstellen womöglich auch mit dd funktioniert
[16:13] <josh123> kannst du mir da bei dem befehl helfen... ich möchte ungern durch unwissenheit noch mehr falsch machen
[16:13] <ppq> mach einfach erst ein image und operiere dann an dem rum statt an der platte
[16:16] <josh123> welchen befehl?
[16:16] <josh123> für das image
[16:17] <k1l_> ein image mit dd :)
[16:17] <k1l_> dd_rescue
[16:17] <k1l_> http://wiki.ubuntuusers.de/Festplatten_Problembehebung
[16:17] <kubine> k1l_: Title: Festplatten Problembehebung › Wiki › ubuntuusers.de (at wiki.ubuntuusers.de)
[16:20] <josh123> ddrescue -n QUELLE ZIEL ddrescue.log
[16:20] <josh123> das wäre dann der entsprechend befehl ?
[16:20] <k1l_> selbe format wie dd
[16:21] <josh123> oder eher das: sudo ddrescue --force /dev/sdb1 /dev/sdc3
[16:21] <josh123> devices natürlich entsprechend angepasst
[16:21] <k1l_> ddrescue ist quasi ein dd, nur das es bei kaputten stellen öfters drüberfährt um zu gucken möglichst viel gelesen zu bekommen
[16:22] <josh123> andere frage: wird es möglich sein die dateinamen wiederherzustellen?
[16:23] <PachiriSuu> servus
[17:06] <hasan> LetoThe2nd: ja das wars. TMOUT hat geklappt. danke
[17:39] <LupusE> hi
[18:11] <peter1965> hi @ all
[18:11] <nagetier> hi peter1965
[18:12] <peter1965> hab gsehen das die 15.04 heute rausgekommen ist, wie kann ich ubuntu mate jetzt übers netzwerk updaten?
[18:13] <k1l_> den update-manager starten
[18:13] <peter1965> software center nicht, oder?
[18:13] <k1l_> nein
[18:14] <peter1965> kann ich das auch mit synaptic machen?
[18:14] <k1l_> nein
[18:15] <k1l_> du hast 2 möglichkeiten. den update-manager nutzen oder auf nem terminel do-release-upgrade. warum du da mit paketsystem-programmen rumfummeln willst erschliesst sich mir nicht ganz
[18:15] <nagetier> peter1965, für dich herausgesucht - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VividUpgrades
[18:15] <kubine> nagetier: Title: VividUpgrades - Community Help Wiki (at help.ubuntu.com)
[18:15] <peter1965> wow danke nagetier ;-)
[18:21] <peter1965> okay läuft Thx @ all
[20:54] <tngu> .
[21:20] <ppq> .
[22:25] <talsamon> hallo !! mkswap: error: swap area needs to be at least 40 KiB, swapon: /dev/zram0: Swap-Header konnte nicht gelesen werden, .... auf 15.04/i686
[22:25] <talsamon> was ist zu tun?
[22:27] <bekks> Eine größeres Device für swap verwenden.
[22:27] <bekks> swap in einen zram zu legen ist übrigens ziemlicher Blödsinn :)
[22:29] <talsamon> ubuntu blödsinn ich hab nichts gemacht, gerade upgrade gemacht, die meldung zu ersten mal gelesen
[22:30] <bekks> Ubuntu legt ohne Userinteraktion kein Swap in ein zram.
[22:30] <talsamon> ich habs nicht gemacht
[22:30] <bekks> Dann war es jemand anderes, aber Ubuntu war es nicht.
[22:30] <talsamon> nein, niemand hats gemacht
[22:30] <talsamon> was macht man dagegen
[22:30] <bekks> Dann warst Du es. Ubuntu war es nicht.
[22:31] <talsamon> ich wars nicht, ich kenn zram bis jetzt gar nicht
[22:31] <bekks> Leg ein größeres Device für Swap an. Das steht in der Meldung.
[22:31] <talsamon> und wie
[22:32] <bekks> Erstelle eine größere (größer als 40kB) Partition/Datei für swap, anschliessend bereite sie mit mkswap vor, und dann trag sie noch in die fstab ein, um sie dann mit swapon zu aktivieren.
[22:33] <talsamon> swapon -s /dev/sda5 partition 2618364 4508
[22:34] <talsamon> bei 2,5 GB RAM sollte das wohl reichen ,oder wieviel soll ich machen
[22:35] <bekks> Das kommt darauf an, was Du mit deinem System machen möchtest.
[22:35] <talsamon> das ist eigentlich nur ein "reserve-system" da mach ich nichts aufregendes
[22:35] <bekks> Wenn du hibernate benutzen willst, brauchst du etwas mehr swap als du RAM hast.
[22:35] <nagetier> jedenfalls sollte dabei keine fehlermeldung kommen
[22:36] <bekks> talsamon: Schieb doch bitte mal deine /etc/fstab in einen Pastebin
[22:36] <talsamon> ok
[22:37] <talsamon> http://pastebin.com/dsfVErJH
[22:38] <kubine> talsamon: Title: UUID=5d07b257-fa92-493a-b12b-d6b668c135d7 / ext4 errors=remount - Pastebin.com (at pastebin.com)
[22:38] <bekks> talsamon: Wann genau taucht denn die Meldung mit dem zram auf?
[22:39] <talsamon> startmeldung im syslog
[22:39] <bekks> Dann schieb doch mal dmesg und das syslog in einen Pastebin
[22:41] <talsamon> dmesg -> http://pastebin.com/PDADC0vP
[22:41] <kubine> talsamon: Title: [ 0.000000] Initializing cgroup subsys cpuset [ 0.000000] Initializing cg - Pastebin.com (at pastebin.com)
[22:50] <talsamon> kann pastebin und pastie nicht erreichen , andere pastebox?
[22:56] <talsamon> bekks: ??
[23:08] <talsamon> syslog geht nicht, dürfte zu gross sein
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ubuntu-chat
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2024-05-13T22:11:16.461616
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2015-04-23-#ubuntu-uy
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[01:45] <magu42> xfce +1
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ubuntu-chat
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2024-05-13T22:11:16.463670
| 2015-04-23T00:00:00 |
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2015-04-23-#juju-gui
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[07:07] <mhilton> one
[07:07] <mhilton> sorry my irc client jumped
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ubuntu-chat
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2024-05-13T22:11:16.465153
| 2015-04-23T00:00:00 |
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2015-04-23-#ubuntu-autopilot
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[11:15] <fgimenez> hi Saviq, yesterday i took a look into this https://jenkins.qa.ubuntu.com/job/generic-deb-autopilot-runner-vivid-mako/2080/console during my vanguard turn
[11:15] <fgimenez> Saviq, i haven't confirmed it yet but it seems that the messages are coming from the dbus package http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-branches/ubuntu/vivid/dbus-python/vivid/view/head:/dbus/proxies.py#L413
[11:16] <fgimenez> Saviq, this seems to be the loop http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-branches/ubuntu/vivid/dbus-python/vivid/view/head:/dbus/proxies.py#L386
[11:17] <Saviq> fgimenez, oh, I'd think the exception would be raised in that case?
[11:17] <fgimenez> Saviq, i'll try to confirm it this evening and ping you with the results
[11:17] <Saviq> fgimenez, thanks
[15:27] <fgimenez> elopio, it seems that Savic's issue https://jenkins.qa.ubuntu.com/job/generic-deb-autopilot-runner-vivid-mako/2080/console comes from the dbus library
[15:28] <fgimenez> elopio, i've managed to reproduce something similar http://paste.ubuntu.com/10871535/ by modifying this function http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-branches/ubuntu/vivid/dbus-python/vivid/view/head:/dbus/connection.py#L602
[15:29] <fgimenez> elopio, this happens when calling autopilot/introspection/_search.py#get_proxy_object_for_existing_process, but there's no exception raised, should ap be aware of any timeout?
[15:32] <elopio> fgimenez: lots of information, that's good, thanks!
[15:33] <elopio> and I don't know. I'm still parsing what you are saying. fgimenez: it would be better to send an email to veebers, with cc to the qa list.
[15:34] <elopio> fgimenez: the issue is that unity is dying, right? What you are digging is to report a better error message in that case? or am I completely lost?
[15:35] <fgimenez> elopio, yep, ap is trying to get the proxy object for the unity8 process, but it has already died, or is not accessible by dbus
[15:36] <fgimenez> elopio, then it seems that dbus spends a lot of time asking the introspection tree
[15:36] <fgimenez> elopio, locally and with a custom error_handler it doesn't take too much, in jenkins the job timeout is expired
[15:41] <fgimenez> elopio, will put it together in an email, i'll try to understand first which objects are queried exactly in dbus after the first error
[15:53] <elopio> fgimenez: nice.
[15:58] <elopio> fgimenez: Saviq: about restarting as a workaround while you solve the unity hang, I think I prefer to keep the tests failing.
[15:59] <Saviq> fgimenez, in our case unity8 is deadlocked in dbus (bug #1421009)
[16:00] <Saviq> elopio, meh, but we might get ↑ fixed soon anyway
[16:14] <elopio> Saviq: that would be perfect :)
[20:29] <balloons> veebers, heya. So mhall is away in London this week, but apartly IS is running into some trouble with his request to land things (including the docs). Just wanted to give you a heads up
[20:32] <veebers> balloons: ack thanks. Any idea what the issues are?
[20:35] <balloons> veebers, my brain is failing me at this hour. Presumably they are noted in the ticket should you have a link handy
[20:35] <balloons> we can inquire directly with IS; might be better
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ubuntu-chat
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2024-05-13T22:11:16.480685
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2015-04-23-#ubuntu-bugs
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[18:44] <phong_> I'm new to submitting bugs at Ubuntu so I would very much appreciate some help.
[18:45] <phong_> I've already submitted at:
[18:45] <phong_> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/1447632
[18:45] <phong_> But it seems it's not in the correct format (as the bot replied in the comment)
[18:47] <phong_> Can anyone direct me how to submit it - or better - how to solve that one.
[19:21] <bdmurray> phong_: its needs to be marked as affecting a specific package
[19:22] <bdmurray> ah, it looks like you switched it to cifs-utils
[19:23] <phong_> Yes, I added that now as I needed cifs-utils to use cifs mounts.
[19:30] <phong_> I think I'll try to reproduce this bug in some other Linux distro (eg.: CentOS) to see if it's Ubuntu specific.
[19:30] <phong_> But it happens in many (all?) version of Ubuntu (12.04?, 14.04, 15.04)
[19:31] <phong_> Does it mean that if it happens in CentOS, I should submit the bug to Samba (and not Ubuntu)?
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ubuntu-chat
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2024-05-13T22:11:16.483387
| 2015-04-23T00:00:00 |
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2015-04-23-#cloud-init
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[05:21] <innosam> Hi, i was looking to build cloud-init from source as debian packages. Anybody have idea on, how to do that?
[06:21] <innosam> Hello
[18:59] <alexpilotti> smoser harlowja: just got the plane tickets for Malta
[18:59] <harlowja> malta, i don't think i be at that one :-P
[18:59] <alexpilotti> smoser: cpopa will be there as well
[19:00] <harlowja> unless smoser pays for me to go, lol
[19:00] <alexpilotti> aka next week :-)
[19:00] <harlowja> cool
[19:00] <harlowja> sounds nice
[19:01] <alexpilotti> harlowja: I’ll feed him some beers and try to convince him to buy your ticket :-)
[19:01] <harlowja> ha
[19:01] <harlowja> thx
[19:01] <alexpilotti> so what about we do some hangouts?
[19:01] <alexpilotti> I mean next week?
[19:01] <smoser> alexpilotti, hey. awesome. i was just thkning 'why didn't allesandro respond to me'
[19:02] <alexpilotti> smoser: we like to live dangerously and we handle event logistics at the last possible moment :-D
[19:04] <alexpilotti> smoser: whene did you write me? I might have missed it!
[19:06] <devicenull> I dont suppose anyone here knows how to convince dpkg to actually reconfigure things in ubuntu?
[19:06] <devicenull> it seem that whenever I run 'dpkg-reconfigured -f noninteractive cloud-init', it just updates the debconf database with whatever I have in 90_dpkg.conf
[19:20] <smoser> devicenull, what did you want it to do ?
[19:20] <devicenull> https://gist.githubusercontent.com/devicenull/40c80e71bf8ce21bff1f/raw/3e443af8e83848c4a9bc8990c764cf257b79255f/gistfile1.txt
[19:21] <devicenull> well, that's what it does.. I wanted it to set the metadata config to Ec2, None
[19:21] <devicenull> I just resorted to overwriting 90_dpkg, which actually works
[19:22] <smoser> devicenull, i think thats as intended.
[19:22] <smoser> ie, debconf-is-not-a-registry
[19:22] <smoser> you can seed package installation
[19:22] <smoser> but after that, i think its supposed to behave like it is
[19:22] <devicenull> well, I'm not sure what the point of the 'noninteractive' frotnend is then
[19:23] <devicenull> I dont use ubuntu much, so I could be doing something wrong here
[19:26] <smoser> devicenull, i'm sorry, this has always been confusing for me too.
[19:26] <smoser> https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=709773
[19:29] <devicenull> ahh, so debconf values are generated based on what's actually configured on the machine
[19:29] <devicenull> rather then debconf being the source of truth, and updating files based on what debconf says
[19:41] <harmw> god I hate openstack
[19:41] <harmw> should a vxlan deploymnt contain any vxlan specific iptable rules?
[20:27] <smoser> devicenull, that is my understanding, yes.
[20:28] <smoser> on first install, cloud-init wil read preseed values
[20:28] <smoser> but after that, debconf-is-not-a-database. (but it is still confusing to me)
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ubuntu-chat
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2024-05-13T22:11:16.499192
| 2015-04-23T00:00:00 |
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2015-04-23-#ubuntu-nz
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[20:58] <hads> morning
[20:58] <hads> Oh. Release.
[21:03] <ibeardslee> morning
[21:03] <ibeardslee> it has been a while since I've done the 6 monthly releases
[21:03] <ibeardslee> sticking to trusty and .. .. lucid :/
[21:04] <hads> Most of my boxes are on Trusty
[21:04] * ajmitch only has trusty & precise at the moment
[21:16] <ibeardslee> any ideas when the lts enablement stuff for vivid is due out?
[21:19] <ajmitch> no idea
[21:40] <hads> I now have a vivid desktop.
[21:42] <ajmitch> is it shiny?
[21:42] <hads> I immediately notice that gnome-terminal absorbs ALT+3 making it so I can't get to this window in irssi+screen :)
[21:42] <ajmitch> that would annoy me greatly
[21:43] <hads> I haven't noticed any other changes yet.
[21:45] <hads> Totem is new.
[21:50] <chilts> so is 'x' going to be the next LTS ... wonder what the hell that'll be called!
[21:53] <olly> xrated xenophobe
[21:58] <ajmitch> still waiting on name for w
[22:04] <hads> Fixed gnome-terminal by disabling tab switching in shortcut preferences.
[22:21] <hads> Middle click doesn't seem to send a window to the back any more.
[22:21] <hads> (on title bar)
[22:56] <G> hads: oh no, Ubuntu has picked up that gnome-terminal 'trick' (grabbing unconditionally Alt+#'s) now? How disappointing.
[22:58] <G> hads: I think the 'Mate' fork of gnome-terminal has resisted the change based on playing around with Arch the other week.
[23:32] <hads> G: Yeah. It used to only do it if you had tabs open, seems to do it all the time now.
[23:42] * olly has never really taken to tabbed terminals
[23:44] <hads> I don't often, occasionally if they are related things such as tailing a log in the background
[23:44] <olly> I guess I resent the loss of a couple of lines - I'm happy enough with screen
[23:49] <G> hads: yep, as I said, the mate-terminal fork last I checked hasn't got that patch, I believe it was a GNOME3-ism
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ubuntu-chat
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2024-05-13T22:11:16.502785
| 2015-04-23T00:00:00 |
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2015-04-23-#ubuntu-tn
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[20:48] <ubuntiste-msakni> http://www.webupd8.org/2015/04/ubuntu-desktop-to-eventually-switch-to.html
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ubuntu-chat
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2024-05-13T22:11:16.504391
| 2015-04-23T00:00:00 |
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2015-04-23-#ubuntu-gnome
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[09:26] <ljdawson1> Morning all
[09:28] <ljdawson1> I noticed 15.04 is going live today
[09:28] <ljdawson1> Is the gnome release of 15.04 coming today too?
[09:37] <ahoneybun> ljdawson1: join #ubuntu-release-party :)
[09:42] <ljdawson1> ahoneybun: thanks, I'll head over there now!
[11:09] <JockeTF> Is it released yet?
[11:09] <JockeTF> Is it released yet?
[11:09] <JockeTF> Is it released yet?
[11:09] <JockeTF> :P
[14:44] <lindol> hi all :)
[14:59] <JockeTF> Hellopaca!
[14:59] <jaksi> hi
[14:59] <jaksi> now that ubuntu 15.04 is out, is there a plan to include gnome 3.16 in the gnome ppa?
[15:03] <JockeTF> jaksi: It's already in GNOME 5 staging as far as I know.
[15:03] <JockeTF> jaksi: It won't be in the stable PPA though.
[15:05] <JockeTF> The regular PPA is only for adding things that didn't make it into the current release. For example, if Ubuntu targets GNOME 3.14 but included Nautilus 3.12, then the stable PPA will contain Nautilus 3.14.
[15:05] <JockeTF> It will not include versions of GNOME that are newer than what Ubuntu is targeting though.
[15:05] <JockeTF> That's for staging (which may be very unstable).
[15:05] <jaksi> mhm, i see
[15:05] <jaksi> thanks for the heads up
[20:41] <ploctaux> Hello
[20:41] <ploctaux> I'm using Ubuntu Gnome for a while now
[20:41] <ploctaux> And I'd like to contribute
[20:41] <ploctaux> How can I get in touch with someone?
[21:25] <emacsen> Is there a timeline for Ubuntu Gnome 15.04?
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ubuntu-chat
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2024-05-13T22:11:16.507236
| 2015-04-23T00:00:00 |
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2015-04-23-#ubuntu-x
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[00:33] <bandit-led> any way to get dkms to build modules for kernel 4 ?
[00:33] <bandit-led> sudo dpkg-reconfigure nvidia-349 works but i have to install kernel and boot into non gui and run it
[00:33] <bandit-led> sudo dkms install -m nvidia -v 349-349.16 -k 4.0.0-rc1-02232015 does not work like it used to
[00:33] <bandit-led> running 349.16 on ubuntu 15.04
[00:59] <bandit-led> /var/lib/dkms/nvidia/349-349.16/build/make.log http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/10868933/
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ubuntu-chat
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2024-05-13T22:11:16.508627
| 2015-04-23T00:00:00 |
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2015-04-23-#ubuntu-server
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[04:27] <rockstar_> I'm trying to use VPN client in ubuntu, client connection seem simple. But I can't seem to connect to it. Any suggestion? May be my authentication is incorrect. But it says it failed to connect
[04:39] <rockstar_> anybody have any suggestion for failed VPN connection?
[05:53] <Valduare> hey guys im having issues, my apc ups says connection failed with apcupsd
[07:45] <lordievader> Good morning.
[12:25] * pmatulis got a lead for translating the ubuntu server guide into Arabic, nice
[14:24] <devster31> hi, what's a good way to compare 2 files that I know have a very similar content but in a very different order?
[14:24] <TJ-> devster31: binary or text content?
[14:24] <devster31> it's text
[14:25] <TJ-> devster31: The order upsets diff?
[14:25] <Odd_Bloke> devster31: I often use `diff -u <(cat $old | sort) <(cat $new | sort)`.
[14:26] <TJ-> devster31: as Odd_Bloke says, if the order of lines isn't significant, use sort
[14:26] <devster31> ok, order of line doesn't really matter, I just wanted to know which are different
[14:26] <TJ-> Odd_Bloke: why that 'cat's? Surely just "<(sort $old)" is sufficient?
[14:27] <Odd_Bloke> TJ-: Because that's what Ctrl-R told me I did last time. ;)
[14:27] <Odd_Bloke> TJ-: You're right. :)
[14:27] <TJ-> Odd_Bloke: Ahhh... you don't need cat if the command it's piping to can directly read files itself
[14:29] <Odd_Bloke> Yeah, I want to defend myself by saying that I might have been doing something else in that pipeline, but I almost certainly was just being daft.
[14:30] <devster31> sorry, not working, still outputs both files one above the other
[14:30] <TJ-> It's easy to do, cat is so universal
[14:31] <devster31> I also tried comm <(sort file1) <(sort file2) with marginally better results
[14:32] <Odd_Bloke> devster31: When you say 'one above the other', presumably the first file has '-'s prepended and the second '+'s?
[14:32] <devster31> yes, but they have all the lines
[14:32] <Odd_Bloke> That suggests that pretty much all the lines are different.
[14:33] <TJ-> devster31: line endings issues?
[14:33] <Odd_Bloke> Ah, good thought.
[14:33] <devster31> I'll check
[14:34] <TJ-> devster31: try diff's "--ignore-trailing-space"
[14:35] <TJ-> devster31: or otherwise, "--strip-trailing-cr"
[14:37] <devster31> i went with -b, seems to work nicely now
[14:38] <devster31> some of the spaces were between words
[14:40] <devster31> what's a good place to save this things, this little commands
[14:40] <devster31> for future reference?
[14:40] <TJ-> devster31: Memory :)
[14:40] <Odd_Bloke> devster31: I use zsh, which is pretty good at keeping history; if it's something you use regularly, you could use an alias.
[14:43] <devster31> I am using zsh, but this isn't the kind of thing I'd use everyday, seems kind of niche
[16:00] <pmatulis> zsh ftw
[16:00] <lordievader> zsh!!! \o/
[16:27] <snolahc> Hi all, i installed my test cluster under ubuntu server 14.04 and on one i installed Landscape. When trying to register the machines, i got the message "We were unable to contact the server", but the machines talk well each others.... No FW problem, anything. The landscape server runs well with no error logs and the clients all output the same thing... Where can i find info to resolve this ?
[16:37] <rberg> hey is ubuntu-server looking to go away from deb packaging to this Snappy Personal thing?
[16:39] <snolahc> rberg, which package mgr ?
[16:40] <rberg> I dont know. but I would like to stay with apt / deb packages
[16:41] <rberg> or is snappy just for Ubuntu Core?
[16:46] <RoyK> I somewhat doubt ubuntu will leave dpkg
[16:46] <RoyK> if it does, I will too
[16:49] <patdk-wk_> I switched from rhel to here cause it didn't have the issues rpm has
[16:50] <RoyK> patdk-wk_++
[16:50] * RoyK doesn't like RHEL
[17:38] <zzxc> Hey does anyone know a good alerting system for new CVE or just general vulnerabilities?
[17:45] <rberg> as much as I hate linking phoronix this is why I ask http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=Ubuntu-15.10-DEB-To-Snap
[17:49] <rberg> zzxc: you could subscribe to the Open Source Security Mailing List
[17:51] <sarnold> zzxc: afaik there's no _good_ way to stay on top of it; the ubuntu security team makes updating our UCT database a daily job for someone on the team http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-security/ubuntu-cve-tracker/master/changes
[17:52] <sarnold> zzxc: part of that daily routine is grabbing updates from nvd and mitre and debian's similar database: http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-security/ubuntu-cve-tracker/master/view/head:/scripts/process_cves
[17:52] <rbasak> I wonder if somebody could drive some kind of data feed out of that database.
[17:53] <zzxc> rberg: Yeah I think that would be useful.
[17:53] <rbasak> I guess it would only work well for stuff in main though.
[17:53] <rbasak> At which point you might as well just follow USNs.
[17:54] <rberg> zzxc: then I also follow the Ubuntu Security RSS feed
[17:54] <zzxc> sarnold: rberg That not a bad idea either
[17:54] <zzxc> sarnold: Cool. Thanks for the links.
[17:54] <sarnold> rbasak: the downsides to just usns is that those aren't published for universe packages
[17:55] <zzxc> It would be nice if there was some way you could specify the parts of your stack and get notifications when a new CVE is found for part of your stack.
[17:55] <sarnold> rbasak: we didhave some interest from someone who wants to provide OVAL content for ubuntu packages; they said they were going to get debian versioning treated as a high-level version type, since dpkg's rules might differ from rpm's enough to have an issue, but I honestly don't know if the end result will be worth it.
[17:56] <sarnold> zzxc: I -think- that's the intention behind the oval database thing
[17:56] <sarnold> zzxc: me, I'm content to just turn on automatic updates on the systems I don't login to regularly and let apt sort it out :)
[17:56] <sarnold> . but again that misses the packages in universe that need updates but don't get them
[17:56] <rberg> yeah something like Gentoos GLSA would be really nice
[17:57] <zzxc> sarnold: Yeah, thats harder to do on a production or shared development machine.
[17:58] <sarnold> I'd love to have a debsecan package that works for ubuntu -- our database formats are so vastly different it wouldn't even be worth starting from what's in that package thuogh :(
[17:59] <rbasak> zzxc: Landscape solves that nicely. Installing updates is separate from being able to see what needs applying.
[17:59] <sarnold> zzxc: if there's a small handful of packages you care about, this might be a good starting point: http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-security/cve/
[18:00] <sarnold> zzxc: if you care about hundreds though, using bzr to clone our database would make a _lot_ more sense..
[18:04] <zzxc> rbasak: I'll take another look at landscape but part of the issue is we have 2 word press machines, 3 Postgres Machines, 3 Servers and use a framework for development.
[18:05] <zzxc> sorry we use a framework that we have to download as a jar file*
[18:35] <samba35> i am trying to setup a mail server using postfix and dovecot on ubuntu 14.04.2 ,can some one please recommand me good source for that
[18:36] <patdk-wk_> apt-get install postfix dovecot
[18:40] <samba35> yes ,i did that but actual configuration process
[18:48] <bekks> samba35: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MailServer
[18:49] <samba35> ok ,thanks
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[02:10] <imgbot> [03:25] <imgbot> [03:25] <imgbot> [04:33] <rsalveti> ogra_: small one https://code.launchpad.net/~rsalveti/ubuntu-touch-session/fixing_expect_upstart_obexd/+merge/257202
[07:03] <ogra_> rsalveti, approved
[08:16] <sil2100> Mirv: we have one free silo - do you want to take it? ;)
[08:20] <Mirv> sil2100: well.. I think I'd rather wait for a better situation. I need to first to do the actual rebasing (of this Qt 5.6 code...) anyway and can build locally, plus thumbnailer branch isn't ready
[09:00] <sil2100> dbarth_, oSoMoN: ping
[09:00] <oSoMoN> sil2100, pong
[09:00] <oSoMoN> what’s up?
[09:00] <sil2100> dbarth_, oSoMoN: the oxide 1.6.4 silo seems to have some webapp problems (QA double-confirming now), did that pop up during your testing as well?
[09:01] <sil2100> Also, how's progress with 1.7.2 testing?
[09:01] <oSoMoN> sil2100, I didn’t see any issues with webapps with 1.6.4, what kind of issues?
[09:01] <oSoMoN> sil2100, we found a blocker with 1.7.2, Chris wrote a fix and we will have to update the silo to 1.7.4
[09:02] <oSoMoN> I mean 1.7.3
[09:02] <sil2100> oSoMoN: ToyKeeper commented on trello: "Fail: This silo fixes the HERE T&C but makes web apps crash on start."
[09:02] <sil2100> You can check the details there
[09:03] <sil2100> davmor2 will try to reproduce
[09:04] <oSoMoN> I did my testing on krillin
[09:05] <dbarth_> pong
[09:05] <dbarth_> 1.7.3 working great here
[09:05] <dbarth_> checking the trello board now
[09:07] <dbarth_> oSoMoN: i wonder if the crashers are arale and same as what we saw yesterday
[09:07] <dbarth_> ie, the sandbox model change triggered by the newer kernels
[09:07] <dbarth_> ToyKeeper: around? can you confirm the tests were on arale?
[09:08] <ToyKeeper> dbarth_: Yes, it was on arale.
[09:08] <oSoMoN> dbarth_, it shouldn’t be related, afaiu that’s a change in chromium itself
[09:08] <dbarth_> right
[09:08] <dbarth_> webbrowser-app works, because of the security policy, but all webapps would crash because of that newer kernel
[09:08] <dbarth_> well, i guess 1.7.3 comes handy then
[09:08] <oSoMoN> dbarth_, still, we should try and publish 1.6 first
[09:09] <dbarth_> but just not on arale
[09:09] <dbarth_> sil2100: how's that doable ? ie, release 1.6.4 to all but vivid/arale
[09:09] <dbarth_> and line up 1.7.3 in a silo for the image
[09:09] <dbarth_> sorry it is that complicated
[09:12] <oSoMoN> dbarth_, I’m not an expert on that, but I don’t think that’s doable, the same archive and overlay PPA feed all images
[09:14] <dbarth_> so 1.6.4 for vivid is toasted; there's just the security updates for other releases which will be releasable
[09:14] <dbarth_> and 1.7.3 is the only one we can try on vivid proper
[09:14] <sil2100> dbarth_: we can't release something that's broken for arale...
[09:14] <dbarth_> 1.7.2 was already working fine on mako, 1.7.3 fixes issues on arale
[09:14] <sil2100> Since our goal is arale
[09:14] <dbarth_> sil2100: precisely
[09:14] <dbarth_> so unfortunately the 1.6.4 step was a waste of efforts
[09:15] <sil2100> No worries, let's just try making sure 1.7.3 is good for everything
[09:15] <dbarth_> i'll double check on krillin and mako right now
[09:15] <sil2100> Thanks :)
[09:34] <jibel> sil2100, so we stop on 1.6.4 and wait for a new silo with 1.7.3?
[09:42] <sil2100> jibel: yeah... there's no use in 1.6.4 it seems ;/
[09:42] <jibel> k
[09:42] <sil2100> It was broken on arale from the start it seems
[09:42] <jibel> dbarth_, ETA for a new version?
[09:48] <sil2100> At least it seems to be already built...
[09:53] <oSoMoN> dbarth_, no 1.6.4 was not a waste of efforts, it still needs to go to vivid-security
[10:05] <dbarth_> jibel, oSoMoN: 1.7.3 is built indeed
[10:07] <dbarth_> the build won't install on krillin/rtm-14.09 though, because of build deps; it will take a source copy into a silo to get rid of media-hub/qt5.4 build deps i guess
[10:07] <dbarth_> i'm on reviving my mako which fainted out of battery last night
[10:19] <dbarth_> jibel, sil2100, oSoMoN: initial testing on mako/vivid is positive: problems fixed and we even get background audio playback for free ! :) \o/
[10:20] <sil2100> Ou yeah
[10:20] <sil2100> \o/
[10:20] <dbarth_> and arale was working fine earlier today on my arale with the key webapps as well + webgl in the browser + CTR as well
[10:20] <dbarth_> maybe we can unfold the rest of the test suite with oSoMoN and hand that over back to QA early this afternoon
[10:20] <sil2100> dbarth_: that's great news - when do you think it would be ready for a silo? Maybe we could re-use the 1.6.4 silo and just copy over the newer oxide
[10:21] <oSoMoN> ubuntu-qa: any chance silo 21 will be validated before the landing gates for vivid close tonight?
[10:21] <sil2100> Would be great, we can't have the RC without a new oxide
[10:21] <dbarth_> sil2100: ah silo yes: can you transfer the build to whichever is free
[10:22] <sil2100> dbarth_: btw. there's silo 11 that has oxide 1.5.6 in it, let me free that up then
[10:22] <rvr> oSoMoN: It's in the queue, so there are chances.
[10:22] <dbarth_> oSoMoN: so that 1.6.4 silo is not needed anymore, since the other releases will be via the normal security pocket
[10:22] <jibel> oSoMoN, priority is 16, 18, 25 and 27. It can be verified once these are done
[10:23] <dbarth_> sil2100: right, this one is outdated anyway
[10:23] <sil2100> jibel: do we have anyone on 18 from our current timezone?
[10:23] <jibel> rvr, which silo are you on?
[10:24] <dbarth_> jibel: and so 16 becomes 11, as i guess oxide is the priority item
[10:24] <rvr> jibel: I've been trying to validate 7, but I'm blocked and will take 27 after repartitioning
[10:24] <jibel> dbarth_, ack
[10:24] <oSoMoN> dbarth_, sure the silo is not needed any longer, but the testing was not a waste of time
[10:25] <dbarth_> oSoMoN: no, you're right
[10:25] <oSoMoN> jibel, rvr: thanks, you guys are doing a great job of validating our work, keep it up :)
[10:25] <sil2100> chrisccoulson: hey! So I would like to copy 1.7.3 from the phablet PPA to a silo PPA but I see that it's suffixed with ~ppa1 - would you want to publish it with this version to the touch overlay PPA?
[10:25] <jibel> rvr, can you continue alesage verification of 18?
[10:26] <rvr> jibel: Sure
[10:26] <jibel> rvr, thanks
[10:27] <sil2100> dbarth_, oSoMoN, jibel: I'll copy oxide-qt 1.7.3 to silo 16, but it'll be with the ~ppa1 suffix
[10:27] <sil2100> I think it should be fine to publish it with such a version
[10:28] <sil2100> Since we're publishing to the PPA nad 1.7.3 will appear in security with the right version sooner or later anyway
[10:29] <oSoMoN> sil2100, the changelog doesn’t include the 1.7.3 changes, I don’t think that build is intended for publication as is
[10:29] <oSoMoN> chrisccoulson, can you confirm? ^
[10:30] <chrisccoulson> sil2100, oSoMoN, that's fine. I didn't include the extra change as it disables a feature that was already disabled in previous releases
[10:31] <oSoMoN> ok, thanks
[10:31] <sil2100> ACK
[10:31] <sil2100> So I guess it's fine to copy
[10:31] <oSoMoN> seems so
[10:35] <sil2100> cjwatson: hey! Could you maybe bump the size of https://launchpad.net/~ci-train-ppa-service/+archive/ubuntu/landing-016/+packages for us? :)
[10:35] <sil2100> cjwatson: thanks!
[10:51] <cjwatson> sil2100: how about I implement my suggestion from the other day to set all silos to 20480MB across the board?
[10:51] <cjwatson> (then I'm going back to being on holiday)
[10:53] <cjwatson> sil2100: that's done now (the across-the-board thing)
[10:57] <sil2100> cjwatson: thanks :)
[10:57] <sil2100> Works fine for us at least
[11:07] * sil2100 off to a family lunch
[12:31] <jibel> dbarth__, oSoMoN is oxide 1.7 ready for testing? or it'll never land on time.
[12:37] <oSoMoN> jibel, it is, I’ll be testing in parallel with you guys
[12:52] <rvr> Mirv: ping
[12:53] <Mirv> rvr: pong
[12:53] <rvr> Mirv: I have installed silo 18
[12:54] <Mirv> rvr: I've just updated both trello and the bug report with my afternoon's test findings. it seems the problem is that U1 account disappears on reboots (usually) when using th e silo.
[12:54] <rvr> Mirv: I can reproduce the problem. When I hit to "Install", nothing happens. But then, in Ubuntu System Settings, the account was gone.
[12:54] <rvr> Mirv: Yes, I confirm.
[12:54] <Mirv> so when I tested before that I updated to silo first, then added account and tried installing apps I didn't see a problem
[12:55] <Mirv> sil2100: ^ unfortunately even thought the unity8 hang is gone it does not seem the current upstream state of the patches is good enough for us, or alternatively there's some complications in backporting them to 5.4
[12:55] <Mirv> tsdgeos: ^ 018 does not seem good for our use, even forget about KDE legacy apps for a while
[12:56] <Mirv> tsdgeos: did you discuss with thiago about the current state and Merge ETA?
[12:56] <tsdgeos> Mirv: i haven't been able to get him on IRC the last two days
[12:56] <tsdgeos> so n
[12:56] <tsdgeos> o
[12:56] <Mirv> I noticed some of the MR:s actually had been merged, but not the bunch of it
[12:57] <Mirv> I wonder if the route of "use DBus less like we did until February" is a possible workaround
[12:57] <Mirv> for the boot issue
[13:00] <tsdgeos> Mirv: it could i guess yes
[13:00] <Mirv> pete-woods: tsdgeos: do you think anything in http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~unity-team/libusermetrics/trunk/revision/189 - which triggered the issue in February, could be changed in a way that for example libusermetrics and Unity8 wouldn't use the DBus at the same time so Unity8 wouldn't randomly hang during the boot?
[13:00] <Mirv> like delaying the libusermetrics until a bit later, or getting a signal from unity8 to proceed or something like that
[13:03] <pete-woods> Mirv: well I'm hesitant to just assume it's interaction like that. it could be libclick blocking, or a bunch of different things
[13:04] <Mirv> pete-woods: in the bug report there was this piece of information earlier "I got a symbolic trace out of all the threads. It seems to be a dbus lock between usermetrics and networkmanager bits."
[13:05] <pete-woods> Mirv: okay, well I suspect that if it's happening now, it could easily have happened before that change
[13:06] <pete-woods> the change you linked just adds a new source for translations
[13:06] <pete-woods> it doesn't really change the way we use DBus
[13:06] <Mirv> pete-woods: yes, it could, but the thing is that it didn't, and because upstream still doesn't have a complete fix we're wondering if we can trigger it back one way or another to the shape that things don't collide during bootup (unity8 <-> networkmanager <-> libusermetrics)
[13:09] <Mirv> there were other landings in http://people.canonical.com/~ogra/touch-image-stats/106.changes for sure too, but it's mostly general libraries
[13:09] <tsdgeos> Mirv: honestly i'd rather get us to put someone to work on fixing those patches were needed and other software if needed than doing fragile changes hoping a lock won't happen
[13:09] <tsdgeos> but i'm not the manager :D
[13:10] <Mirv> sil2100: ^ we need a manager! :)
[13:10] <Mirv> sil will read the backlog once back from his family lunch
[13:17] <Saviq> trainguards, looking at https://launchpadlibrarian.net/204090374/unity8_8.02%2B15.04.20150423-0ubuntu1_source.changes is it on purpose that the "added:" string is on the same line?
[13:17] <Saviq> in the most recent changelog
[13:26] <Mirv> Saviq: probably not and robru will want to add a \n in there
[13:27] <Saviq> Mirv, is it the plan to list things like dependency changes and such in there? (TBH listing added/removed files feels extreme IMO)
[13:33] <Mirv> Saviq: well I'd have thought deps would be the first to be added, but maybe that's experimentation now
[13:49] <sil2100> Mirv: wazzup?
[13:49] <sil2100> Reading backlog
[13:50] <sil2100> Mirv, tsdgeos: ok guys, do we have any other short-term options to get this bug resolved?
[13:52] <tsdgeos> sil2100: define short-term :D
[13:53] <sil2100> Like, anything we can do till EOD
[13:53] <sil2100> ;p
[13:54] <sil2100> Or, at max till Monday
[13:54] <sil2100> tsdgeos: btw. since it's been a while since I had this info - could you remind me how often the unity8 hang on boot happens?
[13:57] <tsdgeos> sil2100: i guess it depends on how unlucky you are
[13:57] <tsdgeos> i'd go with "not very often"
[13:57] <tsdgeos> but since it's race dependant, it happens more on first boots after flashing when the qml cache is being built
[13:57] <tsdgeos> so it's kind of bad for first experience if your first boot ever gets you a deadlocked phone
[13:58] <sil2100> Right, so it's as I thought then... no quick workaround we can do to make the race happen less frequently for first boots?
[13:59] <tsdgeos> not that i know of
[14:00] <sil2100> Damn...
[14:00] <sil2100> pmcgowan: we might have a slight problem ^
[14:01] <pmcgowan> I have been listening
[14:02] <pmcgowan> tsdgeos, Mirv so what is it that is racing
[14:03] <tsdgeos> pmcgowan: qtdbus code
[14:04] <pmcgowan> tsdgeos, was looking for a bit more, like its libusermetrics doing somethign while ...
[14:06] <tsdgeos> pmcgowan: there is lots of things we use that use dbus, one case we've seen is libusermetrics watching a dbus signal while qt-networkmanager waiting for networkmanager answering on how many networks there is
[14:06] <tsdgeos> but wouldn't say this is the only such case
[14:07] <tsdgeos> basically the qtdbus code is not good when used from multiple threads
[14:07] <pmcgowan> thats awful
[14:07] <rsalveti> yeah
[14:07] <rsalveti> unity8 can't hang on boot
[14:07] <rsalveti> sil2100: even if it hangs like 1/10
[14:07] <rsalveti> on factory that is a lot
[14:07] <pmcgowan> yeah factory is more the issue that customer since thats the first boot
[14:08] <ogra_> rsalveti, thats just because we dont produce enough phones :P
[14:08] <sil2100> Right
[14:08] <sil2100> That's why I always advertised this issue as a 'ship blocker'
[14:08] <sil2100> And now it finally seems that we're stuck with a ship blocker without a good way to workaround/fix it
[14:09] <sil2100> It was important enough for us to actually agree on getting so many devel patches to Qt ;p
[14:09] <sil2100> Still, it seems we have bugs
[14:09] <sil2100> tsdgeos, Mirv, pmcgowan: maybe we could have some additional people looking into solving this issue?
[14:10] <tsdgeos> sil2100: those patches are going to eventually hit upstream and we while eventually move to that upstream version, so we should just use them and make sure they are good enough imho
[14:10] <tsdgeos> s/while/will
[14:11] <pmcgowan> tsdgeos, so you suggest we fix the patches
[14:11] <sil2100> I would say that sounds like a good idea, but do we have enough experienced manpower to do it till the EOW?
[14:12] <sil2100> There's also the risk that those patches introduced additional regressions
[14:12] <sil2100> So we need to proceed carefully
[14:12] <ogra_> heh
[14:12] <ogra_> EOW sounds so far away
[14:12] <ogra_> you could have said "tomorrow" :)
[14:12] <sil2100> ogra_: ;)
[14:12] <tsdgeos> sil2100: EOW? i doubt we can do anything before tomorrow, no
[14:12] <sil2100> ogra_: tomorrow is like 8 letters, while EOW is 3 - I obviously took the shortest one ;)
[14:13] <ogra_> wo, are you sure you are not german ?
[14:13] <ogra_> *wow even
[14:13] <sil2100> tsdgeos, pmcgowan: we could of course proceed with building the RC image and in the meantime hope for the boot-hang fix, and then do a delta test once we release it
[14:14] <sil2100> But...
[14:14] <sil2100> Qt is such a low-level component and shared by so many applications that the delta testing will mean re-runing a lot of tests
[14:14] <ogra_> yeah, wouldnt buy us much
[14:14] <sil2100> So *at best* we'll need one more day to finish testing
[14:14] <tsdgeos> sil2100: yes, you basically need to test "everything" since nowadays dbus is everywhere in our stack
[14:15] <pmcgowan> sil2100, tsdgeos the part I missed is what regressions did we see with the patches, or did they just not solve the problem
[14:15] <sil2100> pmcgowan: it solves the problem, but there are issues with things like unable to install apps and accounts disappearing
[14:16] <sil2100> So pretty serious regressions
[14:16] <pmcgowan> sil2100, tsdgeos and why on first boot
[14:16] <tsdgeos> pmcgowan: first boot is more common because there's no qml cache built yet, so things run "at a different speeed"
[14:17] <pmcgowan> tsdgeos, can we preseed the cache
[14:18] <tsdgeos> pmcgowan: i guess we could, ricmm_ would know more, but the hang may still happen, tests indicate that a bit less frequently, but would still be there
[14:19] <Mirv> sil2100: I'd say "fix Qt" is what's wanted, but meanwhile if anything could arranged during boot to not have multiple threads accessing DBus, similar to what we had until February 20th when libusermetrics changed behavior, we'd be in a fragile yet similar to before-Feb20th situation
[14:21] <tsdgeos> Mirv: honestly i think it's unfair to blame it on that libusermetrics change, has anyone tested that reverting that change makes it less frequent?
[14:21] <Mirv> Saviq: tsdgeos: can you share your unity8 booting script you used to the bug report? I mean, if experimenting with the boot process. I remember you were able to get it by cleaning cache all the time and rebooting 10-30 times.
[14:21] <Mirv> tsdgeos: it's unfair to blame it on that, but we've data that the problem didn't exist before that day of http://people.canonical.com/~ogra/touch-image-stats/106.changes
[14:21] <Mirv> it's not really "libusermetrics" problem, but "what happens during boot triggering Qt problem"
[14:23] <Saviq> Mirv, while true; do adb shell rm -R "~phablet/.cache/QML"; ./tools/unlock-device || break; done
[14:23] <Saviq> Mirv, where ./tools/unlock-device is from lp:unity8
[14:23] <tsdgeos> Saviq: don't you need to restart unity8 at some point?
[14:23] <tsdgeos> ah ./tools/unlock-device does it
[14:24] <Mirv> Saviq: thanks. it looks like unlock-device is the thing that reboots?
[14:24] <tsdgeos> ignore maself
[14:24] <Saviq> tsdgeos, Mirv, yeah unlock-device does it all
[14:24] <sil2100> Mirv, tsdgeos: how many people do we have that could work on fixing the Qt patches to not cause these regressions?
[14:25] <sil2100> Mirv: my memory is weary so I don't remember what the situation was in February - we didn't have any hangs like this then, right?
[14:25] <Saviq> sil2100, we don't have anyone dedicated to upstream Qt work
[14:26] <Mirv> sil2100: yes, there's some amount of info in the bug report but one can also see it in the dashboard results and boottest results before/after 20150221 image
[14:27] <tsdgeos> Saviq: i guess between 0 and ~300 depending on how selective you want to be :D
[14:27] <tsdgeos> sil2100: i mean ↑↑↑
[14:27] * tsdgeos hides from the bad joke
[14:27] <sil2100> ;)
[14:28] <sil2100> I think we should really consider assigning someone to do Qt-specific bugs for usptream, I know tsdgeos is doing a lot of work with Qt but maybe we could dedicate someone only to this purpose
[14:28] <sil2100> But that's something for the future
[14:29] <tsdgeos> i mean i have "some" experience with the dbus code, i produced a patch that shifted the deadlock from one place to another different place :D
[14:29] <tsdgeos> no idea if there's someone with qtdbus experience
[14:32] <Mirv> going through our upstream committers, tsdgeos and mardy are ones who have 1-2 QDBus commits
[14:33] <sil2100> Do we have any leads what might be causing the regression in accounts and app installation?
[14:33] <sil2100> Actually, I'll read the latest comment in the bug
[14:35] <Mirv> sil2100: yes, do that. it sounds like QDBus is simply failing during boot in some way resulting in the account getting removed on an error either during boot or later when an app is tried to be installed. the account handling in u-o-a could be handled more error-pronely, but the question is what else might be broken (even though all AP:s pass and the Unity8 hang is now gone)
[14:35] <rvr> rsalveti: ping
[14:36] <Mirv> so the options are 1. fix Qt (long term), 2. experiment with boot ordering without touching Qt to try to get to February situation in DBus usage during boot, 3. make u-o-a more error-prone so that the current 018 is usable as is
[14:36] <rsalveti> rvr: pong
[14:36] <Mirv> 3. if there are no other regressions, it seems like everything problematic with or without the PPA is related to boot time simultaneous use
[14:37] <sil2100> Mirv: maybe we could get someone from u-o-a to take a look at that - they might know exactly what u-o-a does and how it might break QDBus in our current situation
[14:37] <rvr> rsalveti: https://trello.com/c/OpyHNSgA/1441-ubuntu-landing-027-ofono-awe-rsalveti
[14:37] <rsalveti> rvr: are these new issues?
[14:38] <sil2100> mardy: ping
[14:38] <mardy> sil2100: I'm from u-o-a, I've seen my name highlighted a few times in this channel, but i didn't understand yet what bug we are talking about :-)
[14:38] <Mirv> sil2100: I guess that'd be mardy who also has a bit of QDBus experience. he's probably EOD for today. but yes he could install 018 silo and try to see if the problem can be workarounded in u-o-a.
[14:38] <rvr> rsalveti: I was verifying "Blocked SIM card keeps on asking for PUK"
[14:38] <mardy> Mirv: still 22 mins to go :-)
[14:38] <Mirv> mardy: if you install 018 and add U1 account and install apps, the U1 account disappears either during next boot or after the next boot when you try to install an app.
[14:39] <rvr> rsalveti: And i haven't been able to fully unblock my SIM card so...
[14:39] <Mirv> mardy: related to bug #1421009
[14:39] <tsdgeos> mardy: so there's a qtdbus bug in which it deadlocks, we have upstream patches from thaigo that fix that by moving lots of stuff into threads and generally "doing stuff better" but it seems some part of the accounts stack regresses because of it
[14:39] <rsalveti> rvr: hm, need help from alfonso here
[14:40] <rvr> abeato: ^^
[14:41] <abeato> rvr, what do you mean? have you blocked your SIM?
[14:41] <rvr> abeato: To test PUK, yes
[14:42] <abeato> rvr, ok, and which is the issue?
[14:42] <rvr> abeato: I've been trying to verify "Blocked SIM card keeps on asking for PUK" and found some issues described in the trello card https://trello.com/c/OpyHNSgA/1441-ubuntu-landing-027-ofono-awe-rsalveti
[14:42] <rvr> abeato: Right now, it asks me for new PIN, but when introduced, it says "Incorrect PUK"
[14:42] <rvr> abeato: But there are other issues as well
[14:43] <rvr> abeato: Did you test this?
[14:43] <abeato> rvr, I did
[14:44] <abeato> in krillin and arale
[14:44] <abeato> rvr, which phone are you using?
[14:44] <abeato> note that for mako there is no change
[14:44] <rvr> abeato: Arale, vivid-proposed 183
[14:46] <abeato> rvr, ok let me try again
[14:46] <abeato> rvr, "New pin cannot be introduced because the accept button is not enabled"?
[14:46] <abeato> that is very weird
[14:47] <rvr> abeato: The whole workflow is very weird :-/
[14:48] <sil2100> mardy: so, this is a critical thing for us, the unity8 hang on boot is a ship blocker and the fix silo is causing apparent regressions in u-o-a
[14:48] <rvr> Charging the iPhone to unblock and retry
[14:48] <sil2100> mardy: we would need some assistance to help us fix the Qt patches we imported so that u-o-a works properly - or maybe even fixing u-o-a if needed
[14:49] <mardy> sil2100: I'm checking the source code of uoa, to see if I'm doing something stupid
[14:50] <tsdgeos> mardy: "known" thing that doesn't work anymore is using qtdbus before there's a qapplication around
[14:50] <mardy> sil2100, Mirv, tsdgeos: so, uoa is registering the service name just before registering the object; indeed there's the risk of a race condition there
[14:51] <mardy> it would explain why the service was activated and yet why no object was found at the "/" path
[14:52] <Mirv> so, it might be a race condition _enabled_ by multi-threading of QDBus?
[14:52] <mardy> tsdgeos: I'm instantiating QCoreApplication as the very first step
[14:52] <mardy> Mirv: well, it could, though I'm not sure that this race condition is very likely
[14:52] <mardy> Mirv: how easy is it to reproduce this bug?
[14:53] <Mirv> mardy: the bug of having U1 account disappearing when using the 018 happens all the time
[14:53] <Mirv> mardy: if you have U1 account before upgrading to the silo, it appears. also if you readd the account, even though app installation then works for the rest of that boot, the account will disappear (seemingly) every time during the next reboot or the app installation after reboot
[14:56] <mardy> Mirv, sil2100: do you want to try this? https://code.launchpad.net/~mardy/ubuntu-system-settings-online-accounts/lp1421009/+merge/257267
[14:57] <mardy> Mirv: well, it might be that the system is especially busy when booting, so times get slower and race conditions become more likely to happen
[14:58] <Mirv> mardy: thanks, trying
[14:58] <mardy> Mirv: however, the RequestAccount method which I see failing in your comment to the bug, is an API which gets called when one wants to *create* a new account, not when authenticating. I wouldn't expect that to be called on boot
[14:59] <sil2100> mardy, Mirv: thanks guys!
[14:59] <Mirv> mardy: that gets called when I try to install an app, before which the account has probably already disappeared
[15:00] <Mirv> and since the account is not there, u-o-a decides to add one
[15:08] <pmcgowan> sil2100, jibel once we clear the current qa backlog we should only let in fixes for blockers
[15:08] <pmcgowan> which we will need to land after today it seems likely
[15:09] <sil2100> Yeah, we'll close the gates shortly
[15:10] <pmcgowan> sil2100, I am ok clearing what is ready for qa
[15:12] <abeato> rvr, testing in arale channel tangxi-vivid-proposed, image 18 it seems fine: PIN retries number right when starting the phoe, PUK retries ok too
[15:13] <abeato> rvr, ofono (1.12.bzr6894+15.04.20150423-0ubuntu1)
[15:13] <rvr> abeato: I just unlocked the SIM, trying again too :-/
[15:13] <sil2100> om26er: how does silo 25 look so far? :)
[15:13] <rvr> sil2100: It was rebuilt
[15:13] <rvr> sil2100: And I haven't seen om26er online since then
[15:14] <sil2100> hmmm
[15:17] <pstolowski> sil2100, hey, landing-020 can be freed
[15:19] <sil2100> pstolowski: ACK :)
[15:19] <pstolowski> sil2100, i've updated landing-026 with the final MP to land in trunk, but reconfigure failed, can you re-check? also removed your comment for landing-026
[15:20] <rvr> abeato: How did you open the pin unlock screen, after reboot or via indicator-network?
[15:20] <sil2100> pstolowski: let me reconfigure that too
[15:20] <om26er> sil2100, landed.
[15:21] <sil2100> pstolowski: will it be ready for QA?
[15:21] <pstolowski> sil2100, btw, i got Problem accessing /job/-0-reconfigure/parambuild. Reason: not found (404)
[15:21] <abeato> rvr, I enabled it in system settings, then I rebooted and entered it from unity
[15:21] <sil2100> om26er: excellent! \o/
[15:21] <sil2100> Publishing
[15:21] <sil2100> pstolowski: hm, probably bug in the spreadsheet
[15:22] <om26er> so there seems to be something wrong with xchat and notifications in 15.04, they don't appear in the messaging menu
[15:22] <rvr> abeato: Can you try to lock your SIM card opening the SIM unlock page via indicator network?
[15:22] <pstolowski> sil2100, depends how fast it builds.. i tested the original branch and it worked, so if i have it built today, i should finish testing it in the evening
[15:23] <sil2100> pstolowski: yeah, hm, spreadsheet issues I see
[15:25] <abeato> rvr, I don't get that... the only way I see I could do that is trying to enable SIM lock, failing 3 times and then getting the SIM blocked, waiting for PUK
[15:25] <abeato> rvr, is that what you mean?
[15:28] <rvr> abeato: With your SIM unlocked. Reboot your phone, unlock the device, dismiss the SIM unlock screen. Go to indicator network, click on Unlock SIM button.
[15:28] <om26er> rvr, Saviq pinged me when the silo was rebuilt.
[15:28] <abeato> rvr, ok,
[15:28] <rvr> om26er: Cool
[15:29] <sil2100> Ok, officially scripts on the spreadsheet are broken
[15:29] <sil2100> Looking into why
[15:30] <abeato> rvr, there is no unlock SIM button in the indicator network if the SIM is unlocked
[15:31] <rvr> abeato: Sorry, I ment, that the SIM is not in PUK mode.
[15:35] <abeato> rvr, ok, I see now what you mean, the behaviour is radically different if you try to unlock from indicator network instead of directly after booting
[15:35] <abeato> rvr, yes, number of PIN retries is wrong, etc.
[15:36] <abeato> rvr, but I do not know if this is a regression
[15:36] <abeato> rvr, my guess is that this was happening without the latest ofono changes
[15:37] <abeato> rvr, the ofono state seems to be fine but looks likes unity/indicator is not noticing
[15:37] <abeato> weird
[15:38] <rvr> abeato: Ok, so confirmed that it's not just me. Let me check without silo packages.
[15:39] <abeato> rvr, good catch... I thought we could not enter phone without entering the PIN nowadays
[15:39] <abeato> so I had never tried the "x" on start ;)
[15:40] <rvr> abeato: :)
[15:41] <abeato> rvr, if you enter PIN/PUK on boot all is fine
[15:41] <rvr> abeato: Right, so it seems the behavior of SIM unlock screen is different when launched from the indicator
[15:41] <abeato> yep
[15:44] <sil2100> robru, Mirv: so it seems the spreadsheet scripts are now borken and getRange().getValue() doesn't return anything useful
[15:46] <om26er> bfiller, Hi! I am testing silo21 so needed to look at design docs to really understand bug 1351177 -- oSoMoN left early for an appointment, I read. Can you provide the docs link ?
[15:46] <sil2100> robru, Mirv: ok, issue fixed
[15:47] <sil2100> robru, Mirv: this spreadsheet is so fragile that it's crazy - the reason why things stopped working is that someone by accident moved some other sheet in front of the Pending sheet
[15:47] <sil2100> And this is the result now &
[15:47] <sil2100> ^
[15:47] <sil2100> jibel, rvr, davmor2: expect duplicate trello cards
[15:48] <bfiller> om26er: https://docs.google.com/a/canonical.com/presentation/d/1Qrd4Flfs3EH-fI79IfrYgLdAx2nce-L7ve8NKLCX324/edit
[15:48] <sil2100> Saviq, damn, unity8 went to vivid, I think there was some glitch in the spreadsheet
[15:48] <sil2100> Saviq: let me copy it to overlay and free the silo
[15:49] <Saviq> sil2100, yeah, I saw the migration msg, was wondering if that's some weirdness of publishing to overlay...
[15:49] <Saviq> sil2100, would've pung you soon if it didn't recover ;)
[15:51] <sil2100> Saviq: copied and merging :) Sorry about that
[15:51] <Saviq> sil2100, nw
[15:51] <Saviq> sil2100, but yeah, must've been some glitch, overlay was selected as the target
[15:52] <sil2100> pstolowski: silo reconfigured ;) Will it be ready for QA?
[15:54] <sil2100> Mirv is probably away already, any brave souls around to test silo 18 again with the small fix from mardy ?
[15:56] <pstolowski> sil2100, when is the deadline? i can test tonight
[15:56] <sil2100> pstolowski: we want to close the gates soonish
[15:56] <Mirv> sil2100: mardy: tsdgeos: pstolowski: yes I should be away... and will be just after this. it's now possible it's shifted to not happening during boot - three times now, after adding an account and rebooting, the account is still there if checked via system settings. so it's possible this is fixing u-o-a boot time problem! but it now always (still) disappears when it's rebooted and "Install" is clicked in a store, so maybe a similar fix to mardy's
[15:57] <Mirv> that definitely got cut somewhere, right?
[15:57] <sil2100> pstolowski: your change is maybe not a ship blocker, but it's a good fix which wouold be nice to have
[15:58] <tsdgeos> Mirv: i guess it's possible yes
[15:58] <sil2100> Mirv: where do you think we should do a similar fix as well?
[15:58] <rvr> abeato: Not completely sure that is not a regression, without the silo I can't type the PUK to follow.
[16:00] <Mirv> sil2100: whatever the app installation does via dbus, like querying the accounts or something
[16:00] <abeato> rvr, you can't enter PUK?
[16:00] <rvr> abeato: The accept button is not enabled :(
[16:00] <pstolowski> sil2100, i know, but realistically, the build will take ~1.5h, and hopefully it doesn't fail on a flaky test we discovered lately
[16:00] <abeato> rvr, even if you try from the screen on boot?
[16:01] <Mirv> now I even got add account + reboot + install app without problem, similar to sometimes the boot didn't remove the account before. so it seems there's a similar racy condition when pressing the install button for the first time after reboot.
[16:01] <sil2100> Mirv: we need to find someone from the click app installation to take a look at that then
[16:02] <sil2100> \o/
[16:02] <pstolowski> sil2100, so i can conclude my testing in about 2h
[16:03] <Mirv> sil2100: that mardy's example code sounds promising in the sense that it can be used as an example by someone who understands what/where happens when app is wanted to be installed
[16:07] <sil2100> Mirv: ok, I'll try to forward it to the right place
[16:08] <Mirv> sil2100: thanks! check up with alec_u who is checking with his team as seen on -touch
[16:08] <sil2100> pstolowski: ^ do you know anything about this?
[16:08] <sil2100> Ah, ok, I see on -touch
[16:08] <sil2100> :)
[16:24] <dbarth__> sil2100: we're still testing, and investing some occasional issues with tabs and webapps when the system is loaded
[16:25] <dbarth__> sil2100: how much are you blocked on oxide?
[16:26] <pat__> dbarth__, we have 3 or 4 things that need to land to be done, oxide is one
[16:26] <sil2100> dbarth__: it's a ship blocker, since without it the T&C won't show up
[16:26] <sil2100> So it's one of the criticals as pmcgowan says
[16:26] <sil2100> pmcgowan: might as well close the landing gates to anything that's not a blocker for us I suppose
[16:26] <pmcgowan> sil2100, lets land what has been preped for QA
[16:27] <pmcgowan> ready for testing and in testing
[16:27] <sil2100> pmcgowan: right, that's the plan, after the gates are closed those silos that are ready are still signed-off and landed
[16:27] <pmcgowan> then yes
[16:27] <dbarth__> well, then 1.7.3 is an improvement overall
[16:27] <sil2100> But after closing we don't accept new landings (besides blockers in this case)
[16:28] <dbarth__> still not sure what those white screens are made of; chris is on it
[16:28] <sil2100> dbarth__: I suppose the webbrowsing quality on arale is still better, I think we had the white screens on the old oxide as well
[16:28] <dbarth__> but then it means another 6-8h of build time before we can re-test a fix
[16:29] <pmcgowan> then we should make sure its the last fix we need
[16:31] <dbarth__> pmcgowan: that "fix" is more an hypothesis right now; in the absence of a solution in the next hours, the tradeoff is improved, more polished exp (flickering, gl, CTR)
[16:31] <dbarth__> pmcgowan: but at the cost of increased browsing instability when the system is loaded with many webviews
[16:32] <pmcgowan> dbarth__, surely chris can do inceremental builds quicker than that to test?
[16:32] <dbarth__> pmcgowan: at least, yes
[16:33] <pmcgowan> we have no choice now but to land 1.7 dbarth__
[16:33] <sil2100> Maybe since davmor2 is already testing 1.7.3, we could land it anyway and anticipate a probable 1.7.4 with the fixes
[16:34] <sil2100> But in case it's not feasible in our timeframes simply stay around with 1.7.3 (and the instabilities)
[16:34] <dbarth__> pmcgowan: i'd rather land 1.7, i think that's a better version overall
[16:34] <pmcgowan> its no longer a choice afaik
[16:34] <pmcgowan> there is no rather
[16:34] <davmor2> sil2100: there are definitely issue with tabs in 1.7.3
[16:34] <dbarth__> ok, deal
[16:34] <pmcgowan> we could land it with that known and do as sil2100 says
[16:35] <pmcgowan> if it allows some regression testing to start
[16:38] <sil2100> The unity8 on-boot hang worries me a bit
[16:39] <sil2100> Worst thing is we'll probably have to wait till tomorrow to know more on that one
[16:40] <rvr> abeato: Ok. This is what I found.
[16:40] <sil2100> Anyway, let me close the gates
[16:40] <rvr> abeato: In vivid proposed 183, without silos, in the "boot" SIM lock screen, things work just fine.
[16:41] <sil2100> rvr, jibel, davmor2, om26er, ToyKeeper, alesage: landing gates will now be closed, sign-off only those silos that are are ready now and those that are blockers for release - consult me or Pat in this case
[16:41] <rvr> abeato: I'm able to lock the SIM after three unsuccessful trials, count is updated, and PUK can be introduced and SIM can be unlocked.
[16:42] <rvr> sil2100: Ack
[16:42] <rvr> sil2100: Silo 10 is in, I understand.
[16:44] <ogra_> sil2100, FYI ... initramfs-tools-ubuntu-touch uploaded ... will be interesting if it actually builds at all in the PPA (it uses a werid multi wrapped build process)
[16:45] <alesage> Mirv, on silo 18, app store => install PodBird (my fav!) => UO sign-up => two factor, then spinning orange wheel
[16:45] <sil2100> rvr: yeah, those that are ready now can be still signed-off and landed, but we prioritize those silos that have blockers
[16:45] <sil2100> alesage: yeah... even with the additional change it still seems to have some racy parts in the application installation
[16:46] <alesage> sil2100, ack, was going to ask for other D-Bus test cases around this change
[16:47] <sil2100> alesage: actually, as part what was mentioned in -touch, could you try using some other online accounts in click apps?
[16:47] <sil2100> We were actually wondering if U1 is the only one having issues
[16:47] <alesage> sil2100, ok shall do
[16:48] <sil2100> alesage: thanks! :0
[16:48] <sil2100> We need as much info as we can
[16:50] <abeato> rvr, and what happens when doing things from indicator network, without silos?
[16:53] <robru> sil2100: yeah I've seen getRange() fail before, apparently the ranges need to be extended when new rows are added. There is a script that does that, but it seems to intermittently fail. Usually it fixes itself if you just add more rows later.
[16:53] <Mirv> alesage: sil2100 just a quick note that I've seen spinning orange wheel after two factor as often also without the ppa, so that part is probably not regression, the account disappearings are
[16:53] <sil2100> Mirv: ACK
[16:53] <alesage> Mirv, intriguing
[16:53] <rvr> abeato: No count is shown. After PIN is locked, it doesn't switch to PUK.
[16:54] <abeato> rvr, then we can conclude that it is not a regression from silo 27 and that bug was already around, isn't it?
[16:54] <rvr> abeato: Closing and opening it ("Unblock SIM" from indicator network) does show the PUK screen.
[16:55] <rvr> abeato: Introducing the PUK unlocked it.
[16:55] <rvr> abeato: But screen remains there.
[16:55] <rvr> abeato: Closing and opening the screen, shows "introduce the new PIN".
[16:56] <abeato> rvr, yep, pretty similar to what happened with the silo
[16:56] <rvr> abeato: So all problems are in this screen.
[16:58] <rvr> abeato: But the silo doesn't address this. The PIN can be unlocked when booting.
[16:58] <rvr> PIN Lock + PUK unlock works fine from boot.
[16:58] <abeato> rvr, the silo addresses the case when the SIM is PUK-blocked
[16:58] <abeato> that is, you cannot recover the SIM
[16:59] <abeato> without the silo it incorrectly asked for PUK
[16:59] <abeato> with the silo it tells you that your SIM is completely blocked
[16:59] <rvr> abeato: Yes, you can
[16:59] <abeato> rvr, I am talking about the case when you introduce a wrong PIN 3 times and a wrong PUK 10 times
[17:00] <abeato> so you cannot use the SIM
[17:00] <rvr> abeato: Ahhhhh... and the wrong PUK 10 times, I see
[17:00] <abeato> that's what the bug talks about
[17:01] <abeato> the change also makes sure you know the number of retries available all times
[17:01] <rvr> Right, right
[17:01] <abeato> it is just that the terminology for this is soooo confusing...
[17:01] <rvr> err
[17:02] * rvr doesn't want to block his SIM card
[17:02] <abeato> hehe
[17:02] <abeato> you can ask mzanetti to test the silo ^^
[17:02] <abeato> he had the blocked SIM
[17:03] <rvr> Is any other way to test it? :-/
[17:03] <abeato> not really ;-(
[17:04] <sil2100> jibel: hey! So, the landing gates closed, but we can't really create an RC image without the Qt fix for unity8 hangs
[17:05] <sil2100> jibel: this might shift the build of the RC...
[17:13] <rvr> abeato: If I block my SIM card I need to go to the store, to get a duplicate ... I'll check this at the end.
[17:14] <abeato> rvr, I completely understand
[17:14] <davmor2> rvr: what this?
[17:15] <rvr> davmor2: A test that involves a SIM card being blocked after 10 unsuccessful PUK trials.
[17:15] <alesage> Mirv, sil2100 reverting to trunk i'm not seeing the spinning orange wheel for several trials when signing up for UO--is simply removing the account an authentic test of signing up again?
[17:15] <abeato> rvr, however mzanetti already did some testing (see comments in bug #1436820)
[17:15] <cwayne> sil2100, davmor2 what happened to krillin vivid custom tar, is that blocked at the gate now?
[17:15] <alesage> sil2100, I'll chase the other online clicks now with the silo
[17:15] <davmor2> rvr: yeah I'm not about to test that either :D
[17:15] <rvr> davmor2: haha
[17:15] <abeato> don't know if that can be considered enough or not
[17:16] <rvr> abeato: We prefer to check ourselves
[17:16] <sil2100> cwayne: I guess it's not blocked, but I think QA might be busy with arale as that has higher priority ;)
[17:16] <rvr> When possible, of course
[17:17] <sil2100> cwayne: I know it's on their list but there's a lot of blocker/criticals for arale that still need tending
[17:17] <rvr> cwayne: QA overflow!
[17:17] <cwayne> figured as such, just wanted to make sure I hadn't missed a +1 again :)
[17:17] <abeato> rvr, yep understandable
[17:18] <davmor2> cwayne: no I will ping you in every known format so you don't miss it again
[17:18] <cwayne> davmor2, i await your smoke signals
[17:19] <Mirv> alesage: I didn't see the spinning wheel today with the ppa at all, and once without the ppa. not sure when it happens.
[17:19] <davmor2> cwayne: if you find bird poo on your car don't shoot it it's the carrier pigeon and it's flown a long way
[17:21] <cwayne> davmor2, can you instruct it to poop on my neighbors car instead
[17:21] <davmor2> cwayne: hahaha
[17:28] <ogra_> cjwatson, bah ... does a package build in the overlay PPA actually prepend the overlay PPA to sources.list ? (initramfs-tools-ubuntu-touch just exploded in my face trying to use the PPA line as mirror for debootstrap)
[17:29] <boiko> sil2100: hi, where can I check what changed from one vivid-proposed image to another?
[17:30] <ogra_> imgbot, status 183
[17:30] <imgbot> Error: There does not seem to be any build with the number 183
[17:30] <ogra_> imgbot, status 182
[17:30] <imgbot> Error: There does not seem to be any build with the number 182
[17:30] <ogra_> imgbot, status 183 vivid
[17:30] <imgbot> Status: succeeded, Started: 2015-04-23 02:02:06 UTC, Finished: 2015-04-23 02:57:41 UTC
[17:30] <imgbot> Build URL: https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-cdimage/+livefs/ubuntu/vivid/ubuntu-touch/+build/25796
[17:30] <imgbot> Changelog: http://people.canonical.com/~ogra/touch-image-stats/183.changes
[17:31] <ogra_> boiko, ^^
[17:31] <boiko> ogra_: thanks!
[17:33] <pstolowski> sil2100, my silo just built... i guess it's too late (i need ~20 minutes for testing)
[17:34] <sil2100> pstolowski: I would still think about it
[17:34] <boiko> ogra_: and for krillin is that the same?
[17:34] <pstolowski> sil2100, ok.. testing
[17:34] <ogra_> boiko, yes, different versioning though ...
[17:34] <ogra_> imgbot, map 183 vivid
[17:34] <imgbot> mako ubuntu version: 183 maps to krillin version: 196"
[17:34] <imgbot> mako ubuntu version: 183 maps to generic_x86 version: 185"
[17:34] <sil2100> pmcgowan: ^ pstolowski has the fix for the scopes disappearing during upgrade - it's not critical to have for RC I suppose since they're all in custom tarball, but maybe it could be a good idea? What do you think?
[17:35] <sil2100> pmcgowan: considering that we'll anyway blocked on building the RC image with the unity8 hang bug...
[17:35] <ogra_> boiko, vivid is all mapped against mako so you need the map command to actually find the krillin version
[17:35] <boiko> ogra_: great! thanks!
[17:35] <pmcgowan> sil2100, sure good to land
[17:36] <ogra_> i guess i need to change that at some point
[17:39] <sil2100> pstolowski, davmor2, rvr, ToyKeeper: ^ please make sure that silo 26 is also signed-off once set as ready
[17:41] <boiko> imgbot, map 181 vivid
[17:41] <imgbot> mako ubuntu version: 181 maps to krillin version: 195"
[17:41] <imgbot> mako ubuntu version: 181 maps to generic_x86 version: 184"
[17:42] <boiko> imgbot, map 182 vivid
[17:42] <imgbot> mako ubuntu version: 182 maps to krillin version: 195"
[17:42] <imgbot> mako ubuntu version: 182 maps to generic_x86 version: 184"
[17:47] <pmcgowan> sil2100, rvr we have been waiting for silo 24 so if thats now ready for QA would like to get those
[17:50] <rvr> pmcgowan: Ack
[17:51] <pmcgowan> thanks
[17:56] <sil2100> pmcgowan: indeed, that's a blocker fix so it's good to have that
[17:57] <sil2100> pmcgowan: too bad jibel is not around, I wanted to consult with him what to do in this situation with the RC, but I guess we'll decide that tomorrow morning
[17:58] <alecu> sil2100: with latest silo-18 in mako #183, logging into U1 after clicking "Install", or logging into U1 from system settings->accounts are working much better. Still, the account was still deleted after reboot.
[17:59] <sil2100> alecu: deleted after reboot? Damn, I actually thought it would be the other way around with this silo installed
[17:59] <pmcgowan> sil2100, we can make an image tonight but I suspect we need another prior to regression tests starting
[17:59] <pstolowski> sil2100, marked silo 26 tested
[18:00] <sil2100> pstolowski: excellent
[18:01] <sil2100> pmcgowan: ok, so I'll be logging off in some minutes, but I'll log in in a few hours to maybe kick an image - want as many silos to land as possible
[18:02] <alecu> sil2100: and just while I'm saying this, I'm attempting to log in again, only to get the spinner showing forever after clicking in "Sign In"
[18:02] <alecu> sil2100: so, please disregard my previous comment
[18:02] <alecu> top shows that unity8 and online-accounts are pegging the cpu, will take a screenshot of that.
[18:05] <pstolowski> sil2100, signing off for today. cu!
[18:05] <alecu> so, the "spinner forever" seems to be some weird interaction between unity8, online-accounts, and system-settings: http://pasteboard.co/2MKyOsZ9.png
[18:07] <alecu> actually, it's online-accounts-ui
[18:09] <alecu> http://pasteboard.co/2MKR1ed7.png
[18:10] <alecu> ten minutes, and still spinning.
[18:10] <cjwatson> ogra_: The context archive itself always comes first, yes. You should probably do something like checking the Origin of release files, or you could just exclude ppa.launchpad.net perhaps
[18:12] <cjwatson> ogra_: I see you attempted to do the latter, but it would work better if you wrote "ppa.launchpad.net" rather than "ppa.launchpa.net". :-)
[18:13] <alesage> Mirv, still seeing this spinning circle reliably, happens in settings proper (store process not implicated), http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/10873064 , http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/10873079 <= unity8 log
[18:13] <alesage> sil2100, ^^
[18:14] <ogra_> cjwatson, gah, damned ...
[18:14] <ogra_> cjwatson, thanks though !
[18:14] <alecu> alesage: I'm seeing the spinner too, both from the store and from system settings.
[18:14] <alesage> alecu whew I'm not crazy :)
[18:15] <alecu> alesage: are you on arale? the cpu usage is very different from the screenshot I pasted above from a mako.
[18:15] <alesage> alecu arale, yes
[18:15] <alecu> great.
[18:21] <alesage> alecu, sil2100 FWIW other normal accounts (Twitter, Google, FB) don't appear affected
[18:24] <alecu> and using dbus-monitor there doesn't seem to be any unusual dbus traffic while the spinner is shown and the processes are chewing the cpu....
[18:39] <sil2100> alecu, alesage: thanks for looking into that guys, I'm actually wondering what's causing all those issues
[18:40] <sil2100> alecu: be sure to document your findings in the unity8 hang bug ;)
[18:40] <alesage> sil2100, not seeing without silo at least to this point
[18:40] <sil2100> I need to AFK now for a while, but will be back in 3-4 hours
[19:32] <rvr> abeato is no more
[19:32] <rvr> rsalveti: davmor2 found a problem with the "after-PUK"
[19:32] <rvr> on silo 27
[19:34] <davmor2> rvr: I think rsalveti is off too ircc
[19:34] <davmor2> iirc even
[19:34] <ogra_> yeah, traveling
[19:34] <rvr> Ok
[19:35] <rvr> davmor2: I'll send them an email
[19:35] <ogra_> he wont be around before monday officially ... (probably drops by on the weekend though)
[19:35] <ToyKeeper> mandel: I see a note on silo 24 saying to contact you about testing the change. What's needed to test it?
[19:36] <davmor2> rvr: http://people.canonical.com/~davmor2/screenshot20150423_192816321.png
[19:37] <davmor2> rvr: does that on hitting the X or if you just don't press anything
[19:37] <rvr> davmor2: :-O
[19:37] <davmor2> rvr on the initial purple screen that looks correct
[19:39] <davmor2> rvr: you can't drag anything in, you can't swipe it either because that isn't unlocked yet :( had to remove the sim to get into the phone to get the screenshot
[19:39] <davmor2> I'll try and get a purple one too
[19:39] <rvr> Sounds really bad
[19:41] <rvr> Ok, copied your comments to the card and sent an email to abeato with cc to rsalveti
[20:45] <mandel> ToyKeeper, hello! sorry I was out for dinner
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[11:59] <dpm> hi Gwaihir, askhl, I'm reaching out to translators to comment on the "Phone translations policy proposal" I sent to the ML. Input from translation teams would be useful, even if it's to say +1, or if there is any point that's not clear or you don't agree with. Do you think you might have a chance to look at it?
[11:59] <dpm> thanks!
[12:00] <Gwaihir> dpm, will do :-)
[12:01] <dpm> awesome, thanks!
[12:01] <dpm> We'll probably be following up with a policy for string freezes, something that the phone is dearly missing :)
[12:01] <dpm> that's in the works
[12:18] <Gwaihir> dpm, BTW, there is a small typo in the policy page: Ubuntu for phones can either either be downloaded
[12:18] <Gwaihir> s/either either//g
[12:20] <dpm> Gwaihir, fixed, thanks!
[13:51] <dpm> thanks Gwaihir, really good questions :)
[13:53] <Gwaihir> dpm, thank you for working on that! it is really needed
[16:05] <askhl> dpm: Hello. I will have a look.
[16:12] <dpm> thanks askhl!
[16:21] <askhl> dpm: By the way, I have taken over the post as Danish coordinator for GNOME. The coordinator job for Ubuntu I have then passed on to Aputsiaq Janussen. But I can't remember if the latter change was ever formally announced. Should I send it on the mailing list or do anything else? As of now I have simply made him administrator of the appropriate groups. (I am of course still active, just don't want to deal with too many coordination duti
[16:22] <dpm> askhl, thanks for the heads up. Yes, I think that'd be good. This should provide more guidance for any other steps: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Translations/KnowledgeBase/RoleReassignmentPolicy
[16:30] <askhl> dpm: Thanks
[16:33] <askhl> dpm: I cannot edit the Teams page. The Danish contact should read "Aputsiak Niels Janussen", https://launchpad.net/~aj . (Whether Aputsiaq is spelled -q or -k is apparently non-trivial)
[16:36] <dpm> askhl, what do you mean with "I cannot edit"? Is it a permissions problem? That page is just a regular wiki page
[16:58] <askhl> It says "Página inmutable" in the top left.
[16:59] <askhl> (dpm: ^)
[16:59] <dpm> askhl, you might need to re-login?
[17:08] <askhl> Huh, apparently. But then it's not strictly true that the page is immutable... :)
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2015-04-23-#ubuntu-si
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[06:53] <yang> Kolesarstvo in erektilna disfunkcija RSLO1 0930
[07:02] <LorD_DDooM> Če bo spet ponovitev lanskoletne drame "70% odstotkov kolesarjev ima probleme tam doli. Klinično testirano", poj je brezveze sploh gledat.
[07:10] <zdobbie> mislim, da je na radiu?
[08:12] <Seniorita> [Ubuntu.si] dusang: Predogled sporočila https://www.ubuntu.si/forum/discussion/6314/predogled-sporocila
[08:18] <Seniorita> [Ubuntu.si] CrazyLemon: RE: Predogled sporočila https://www.ubuntu.si/forum/discussion/comment/42901#Comment_42901
[08:27] <slax0r> morning
[08:27] <CrazyLemon> o/
[08:31] <napsy_> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JJxCFa8YmbQ&hl=en-GB&gl=AU
[08:31] <Seniorita> The best caller ever (The Atheist Experience) - YouTube
[08:31] <Seniorita> »The best caller ever. Credit: Atheist Experience http://www.atheist-experience.com/ 01/07/07 #482«
[08:32] <zdobersek> slo-tech much?
[08:32] <napsy_> veery very much
[09:49] <dz0ny> idioterna: si kdaj uporabljal graylog? poznaš kako alternativo
[09:49] <idioterna> nism se stestiru
[09:50] <idioterna> mam pa na todo ze ene tri mesce
[09:52] <dz0ny> idioterna: sigh ravno contemplating writing one :>
[09:52] <napsy_> lp
[09:52] <dz0ny> dan
[09:53] <idioterna> dz0ny: a se enga?
[09:53] <dz0ny> go+rocksdb+syslog only
[09:53] <dz0ny> papertrail is fine sam preveč stane
[09:54] <dz0ny> also no gzip overdata
[09:54] <dz0ny> graylog je slow in v zacetku pokur 600mb rama
[09:54] <dz0ny> java pac
[09:58] <idioterna> mnja
[10:01] <zdobersek> lolzies
[10:01] <zdobersek> why not php?
[10:01] <idioterna> hm z go bi se kr dal nardit ja
[10:01] <idioterna> a better syslog replacement
[10:04] <dz0ny> idioterna: https://github.com/papertrail/remote_syslog2 bl mislim v kombinaciji z tem
[10:04] <Seniorita> papertrail/remote_syslog2 · GitHub
[10:04] <Seniorita> »remote_syslog2 - To install, see "Releases" tab. Self-contained daemon for reading local files and emitting remote syslog (without using local syslogd).«
[10:05] <dz0ny> sam agregator rabim :)
[10:05] <idioterna> aha ja
[10:07] <dz0ny> pa zdej k docker podpira syslog bo kr uproabno krkol zna skupaj povezat stvari
[10:20] <CrazyLemon> http://openness.microsoft.com/blog/2015/04/21/microsoft-debian-8-linuxfest/
[10:20] <Seniorita> Join Microsoft to celebrate Debian 8 at LinuxFest Northwest | Microsoft Openness Blog
[10:20] <Seniorita> »During the LinuxFest "Welcome Debian 8: Aptly Cloud Aptitude" session, we'll discuss Debian 8 and how the cloud can bring Debian projects to hyperscale.«
[10:21] <zdobbie> .gif it's a trap
[10:21] <jabuk> http://media.giphy.com/media/XYCHHBtZxfmAU/giphy.gif
[10:27] <CrazyLemon> naah
[10:27] <CrazyLemon> its not
[10:27] <CrazyLemon> it just defacement
[10:27] <CrazyLemon> its*
[10:28] <CrazyLemon> MS got hacked
[11:08] <napsy_> doma pri Ballmer residence ze poka po sivih :)
[11:59] <Seniorita> [OMG! Ubuntu!] Joey-Elijah Sneddon: Official Ubuntu 15.04 ‘Vivid Vervet’ T-Shirt Now Available to Buy http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/d0od/~3/AWN-vtL5EE4/ubuntu-t-shirt-vivid-vervet-1504
[13:01] <msev_> dz0ny, a je možn v aplikaciji ki uporablja "libchamplain" za prikaz zemljevidov, nekako uporabit google maps :)
[13:01] <msev_> ta "uri_format" bi potreboval za google maps :)
[13:02] <msev_> ker mi bing maps zj ne pokriva več par velikih mest v Sloveniji in mi gre na živce :)
[13:02] <jabuk> when something I’ve done a million times before suddenly doesn’t work http://i.imgur.com/HYGCRyr.gif
[13:02] <dz0ny> msev_: has no idea what are you talking about :)
[13:02] <dz0ny> msev_: predlagam da vprašaš avtorja
[13:02] <msev_> darn
[13:02] <msev_> noče k je preveč pošten glede licenc hehe
[13:02] <msev_> :D
[13:04] <dz0ny> rečeš mu da mora user sam poskrbet za to
[13:04] <dz0ny> sej bi za bing isto moral
[13:04] <dz0ny> razen če nima posebnega dogovora
[13:04] <msev_> noče :)
[13:05] <dz0ny> anti-google the n :)
[13:05] <msev_> ta bing je res crap, nevem kko je lahko microsoft tako malomarn do nas slovencev
[13:05] <jabuk> when the client tells us he wants a website “similar to Facebook” http://ljdchost.com/pxSk749.gif
[13:05] <msev_> da niti nemorejo met aerial mape cele slovenije mislm no jao
[13:05] <jabuk> when I’m randomly called on in a meeting to explain code I never wrote http://ljdchost.com/c51YEoM.gif
[13:05] <dz0ny> msev_: ja cela notranjska pod bohinj spada
[13:06] <dz0ny> utter fail
[13:06] <msev_> lol
[13:06] <msev_> pa sm jim zatežiu pol so pa še poslabšal zadevo
[13:06] <msev_> tko da sm si sam kriu hehe
[13:06] <dz0ny> in pol te podatke vzame še facebook
[13:06] <dz0ny> in ni občine loška dolina,cerknica,bloke ampak bohinj
[13:07] <dz0ny> in pol bi radi oni neke biznis se šli
[13:07] <dz0ny> later :)
[13:07] <msev_> ja res
[13:07] <msev_> polom od njih
[13:11] <msev_> viking dela na ta način
[13:11] <msev_> pač lahko pridobi tajle, sam za mwp k ma kot backend libchamplain pa nemore na ta način pridobit hehe
[13:12] <msev_> meh vse je delal zj so mi pa pokvarl bingovci
[13:16] <upd> http://osdir.com/ml/libchamplain-list/2010-12/msg00001.html
[13:16] <Seniorita> libchamplain-list - Re: A potentially unpopular question... - msg#00001 - Recent Discussion OSDir.com
[13:16] <upd> moral bi preuredit par vrstic, pa zgenerirat pravi link za google maps, z long lat
[13:17] <msevph> Pretezko zame :)
[13:17] <msevph> Ker nerazumem :)
[13:18] <slax0r> svn > git
[13:18] <LorD_DDooM> ^^
[13:18] <dz0ny> !!not
[13:19] <slax0r> false false not = yes?
[13:20] <msevph> Dzony je github zvezda
[13:21] <dz0ny> github ma tud svn
[13:21] <dz0ny> :)
[13:21] <msevph> Much followers very wow
[13:21] <dz0ny> rly
[13:21] <dz0ny> i could care less
[13:21] <msevph> Like a true boss
[13:24] <slax0r> se github se strinja, svn > git
[13:24] <msevph> Lol
[13:30] <msev_> verjetn bi blo tuki treba kj spremenit he he https://github.com/stronnag/mwptools/blob/e2857214b91cfa7e47e2f1bd18450d0bf28c0413/mwp/mapsources.vala
[13:30] <Seniorita> mwptools/mapsources.vala at e2857214b91cfa7e47e2f1bd18450d0bf28c0413 · stronnag/mwptools · GitHub
[13:30] <Seniorita> »mwptools - planner and tools for multiwii nav«
[13:32] <slax0r> ugh
[13:32] <slax0r> ker indent na koncu
[13:38] <msev_> ja antiggogle fan je tist
[13:38] <msev_> lol
[13:44] <lynxlynxlynx> ma vrž stran pa uporabi osm
[13:44] <Seniorita> [Ubuntu Security] USN-2576-1: usb-creator vulnerability http://www.ubuntu.com/usn/usn-2576-1/
[13:47] <msev_> lynxlynxlynx, če nima satelitske slike osm :D
[13:47] <msev_> drgač je kul
[13:49] <Seniorita> [OMG! Ubuntu!] Joey-Elijah Sneddon: Ubuntu 15.04 Released, This Is What’s New http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/d0od/~3/L-zW7nDUIEY/ubuntu-15-04-download-new-features
[13:55] <msevph> A gnome 3.16 se ni pripravljen kot ppa za v ubuntu 14.04?
[13:55] <msevph> A kdaj bo?
[13:56] <msevph> Lol
[13:57] <msevph> Zakaj ce za arch dela nemorejo zapakirat za ubuntu :)
[13:57] <msevph> Zakaj je treba cakat in cakat :)
[14:00] <CrazyLemon> zato ker breaka shitloads of stuff?
[14:00] <CrazyLemon> aja.. ti govoriš za ubuntu gnome
[14:10] <msevph> Activities bi si zamenjal z "gnomenujem"
[14:11] <msevph> Da bi mel bolj podoben cinnamonu :), pa "dash to dock" to je plan pol k pride ppa
[14:17] <Seniorita> [Ubuntu Security] USN-2576-2: usb-creator vulnerability http://www.ubuntu.com/usn/usn-2576-2/
[14:19] <Seniorita> [OMG! Ubuntu!] Joey-Elijah Sneddon: 7 Things To Do After Installing Ubuntu 15.04 http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/d0od/~3/4cZa1c4NIEo/things-to-do-after-installing-ubuntu-15-04
[14:33] <zdobersek> kuga je pa denes pihalu
[14:36] <zdobersek> .vreme Celje
[14:36] <jabuk> ARSO: Celje (244m): 22°C @23.04.2015 14:00 UTC.
[14:36] <jabuk> Vlažnost: 28% južni veter 3.5 m/s
[14:36] <jabuk> Sončni vzhod: 04:00:11, Kulminacija: 10:58:26, Sončni zahod: 17:56:42
[14:36] <jabuk> Dan je dolg: 13ur 56min 31s, Luna je v ščipu
[14:55] <Seniorita> [Web Upd8] Andrew: Ubuntu 15.04 Available For Download, See What`s New http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/webupd8/~3/KnESDlrSdJA/ubuntu-1504-available-for-download-see.html
[15:06] <Seniorita> [Ubuntu Security] USN-2577-1: wpa_supplicant vulnerability http://www.ubuntu.com/usn/usn-2577-1/
[15:40] <Seniorita> [Ubuntu.si] CrazyLemon: Na voljo je Ubuntu 15.04 https://www.ubuntu.si/forum/discussion/6315/na-voljo-je-ubuntu-15-04
[15:45] <Seniorita> [Web Upd8] Andrew: Ubuntu MATE 15.04 Released, First Version As An Official Ubuntu Flavor http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/webupd8/~3/JyjNxpz9Yoc/ubuntu-mate-1504-released-first-version.html
[16:31] <idioterna> o lej
[16:31] <idioterna> 15.04!
[16:32] <zdobbie> wat en surprise
[16:40] <yang> na sumofus lahko preberete kako hugo boss izkorisca delavce v turciji
[16:44] <idioterna> hm
[16:44] <idioterna> ne vem kdo je hugo boss
[16:46] <CrazyLemon> he's the boss obviously
[16:47] <idioterna> un k dela une obleke se mi zdi
[16:47] <idioterna> pa cigarete mogoce
[16:47] <idioterna> dunno
[16:47] <idioterna> don't care
[16:47] <idioterna> nimam nc z njim
[16:47] <idioterna> ocitno ne podpiram njegovega izkoriscanja
[16:50] <zdobbie> ffs no
[16:50] <Seniorita> [Web Upd8] Andrew: Ubuntu 15.04 (Vivid Vervet) Flavors Ready For Download http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/webupd8/~3/sIJ8nzih0AY/ubuntu-1504-vivid-vervet-flavors-ready.html
[16:50] <zdobbie> spet mamo obtozence v parlamentu
[16:55] <idioterna> aja?
[16:55] <idioterna> je v sluzbo prsu?
[16:59] <zdobbie> ne verjamem
[17:00] <zdobbie> ampak baje bo tko sam do avgusta
[17:00] <zdobbie> pol bo spet parlament cist ko solza
[17:32] <upd> https://www.dropbox.com/s/0h28jsxxo88a5ob/Screenshot%20from%202015-04-23%2019_26_43.png
[17:33] <Seniorita> Dropbox - Screenshot from 2015-04-23 19_26_43.png
[17:38] <zdobersek> .plosk
[17:38] <jabuk> http://i.imgur.com/un3MuET.gif
[17:54] <dz0ny> gnome is still nicer http://i.imgur.com/zsjLU9m.png
[17:56] <zdobersek> wat en fan
[18:29] <zdobbie> CrazyLemon: kdaj bo party?
[18:29] <CrazyLemon> zdobbie right now! party is right now!
[18:30] <CrazyLemon> are you having fun?!?
[18:30] <zdobbie> CrazyLemon: so I guess I wasn't invited
[18:36] <CrazyLemon> zdobbie sorry..but you are a debian guy so doesnt matter right?
[18:37] <zdobbie> Ubuntu feeds off of it, you ignorant rot
[18:41] <upd> sej jaz bom tud pobrisal ta ubuntu, 1,5gb rama pa dual core 1.6gh 8gb ssd, se mi zdi da bi moralo biti čist dovolj za linux, tako pa šteka vse
[18:41] <upd> packet manager, je sive barve 1 minuto vsakič ko kliknem gumb, chromium niti ne dohaja ko napišem google.si vse črke razmeče, youtube šteka na 360p
[18:44] <upd> pa še polno enga sranja nameče gor
[18:45] <upd> učasih, ko je windows delal počasi, je bil linux v prednosti, si ga namestil, je lavfal vse super, zdej je pa isto požrešen kot win
[18:59] <napsy__> cer
[19:00] <dz0ny> si nalije kupico piva
[19:01] <zdobersek> wat en klasse
[19:01] <CrazyLemon> kupico?
[19:02] <zdobersek> KRIGL
[19:02] <zdobersek> kupice so za vino!
[19:03] <dz0ny> am tako http://www.first-magazine.net/wp-content/themes/mimbo2.2/images/dartington_barexcellence_barbeer_tu1465p.jpg
[19:19] <dz0ny> .aptf ffi.h
[19:19] <jabuk> /usr/include/x86_64-linux-gnu/ffi.h > lib64ffi-dev [not amd64],
[19:19] <jabuk>
[19:19] <jabuk>
[19:19] <jabuk> libffi-dev [not i386]
[19:19] <jabuk> /usr/include/i386-linux-gnu/ffi.h > lib32ffi-dev [not i386],
[19:19] <jabuk>
[19:19] <jabuk>
[19:19] <jabuk> libffi-dev [not amd64]
[19:19] <jabuk> /usr/include/ecl/ffi.h > ecl
[19:23] <dz0ny> .yt aurora running
[19:23] <jabuk> https://youtube.com/devicesupport (4 minute) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UKY3scPIMd8 ♥0 ▶1,598,225
[19:43] <CrazyLemon> you are so gentle!
[19:45] <CrazyLemon> slovenija!
[19:45] <dz0ny> .yt AURORA Running
[19:45] <jabuk> AURORA - Running With The Wolves (Official Audio) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xlm2iMsYM2Q
[19:45] <dz0ny> CrazyLemon: slovenija?
[19:45] <CrazyLemon> dz0ny ja.. jabuk bi ponavadi nekaj odgovoril na random :)
[19:45] <CrazyLemon> its a test case
[19:46] <dz0ny> aja lol
[19:46] <zdobbie> CrazyLemon: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nhXTW70lV6A
[19:46] <Seniorita> Rusvelo rider thinks he won the sprint with 1 lap to go - Tour of Croatia 2015 - YouTube
[19:46] <Seniorita> »Full results: Site: http://www.CyclingHub.tv Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/Cyclinghub1 Twitter: http://twitter.com/lecyclinghub Watch more Cycling here: ...«
[19:46] <CrazyLemon> zdobbie danes sploh nisem gledal ker sem pozabu!
[19:48] <CrazyLemon> zdobbie lol bogi
[19:49] <dz0ny> http://www1.wdr.de/fernsehen/kultur/rockpalast/videos/av/videounpluggedauroraaksneshunting100.html
[19:50] <Seniorita> Video: Unplugged: Aurora Aksnes - "Hunting" : Rockpalast: Eurosonic Festival 2015 vom 09.02.2015 - WDR Fernsehen
[19:50] <Seniorita> »Unplugged: Aurora Aksnes - "Hunting"«
[19:50] <dz0ny> also sooo young, born 1996
[19:50] <CrazyLemon> jail bait!
[19:52] <dz0ny> 19?
[19:53] <zdobbie> Kump sprinta pa tko, da ga je cez celo cesto
[20:10] <Seniorita> [Web Upd8] Andrew: Ubuntu Desktop To Eventually Switch To Snappy Packages By Default http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/webupd8/~3/LB9hn8E-OhE/ubuntu-desktop-to-eventually-switch-to.html
[20:10] <CrazyLemon> \o/
[20:13] <msevph_> Zanimiv, a pol to pomen da bos lazje dobil novejsi software v starejsih izdajah ubuntuja
[20:13] <msevph_> Pac od dolocene izdaje naprej (ko bo to uvedeno)
[20:13] <CrazyLemon> starejših ne.. ker verjetno ne bo backportano :)
[20:13] <CrazyLemon> drugače pa ja :)
[20:14] <msevph_> Ja od tiste izdaje k bo uvedeno
[20:14] <msevph_> A nebojo portal v lts, loh bi hehe
[20:25] <dz0ny> deb2snappy mas
[20:25] <dz0ny> lahko poganajs softwer iz leta 2010 ce ti pase
[20:26] <msevph_> Pretty cool
[20:26] <msevph_> Pol bojo s temu mocno konkuriral archu? Bo clovk lahko takoj ko bo kj vn prslo naredu snappy package?
[20:27] <msevph_> A lahko to pricakujemo al ne?
[20:29] <dz0ny> msevph_: da
[20:30] <dz0ny> po novem po ubuntu izdaja
[20:30] <dz0ny> snappy je pa k en vm ki ma isti kernel
[20:30] <dz0ny> chroot on steroid rly
[20:30] <dz0ny> tko kot docker
[20:30] <dz0ny> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cn-NsWRtaSY
[20:30] <Seniorita> Kenichi Ebina Performs an Epic Matrix- Style Martial Arts Dance - America's Got Talent - YouTube
[20:30] <Seniorita> »You've never seen dancing done like this! From his head fall to his Matrix-style moves, Kenichi Ebina will blow your mind! » Subscribe: http://full.sc/IlBBvK...«
[20:32] <msevph_> Cool stuff dzony
[20:32] <upd> a unga si vidu k govori
[20:32] <upd> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1inR2b7PS5M
[20:32] <Seniorita> Marc Métral and his talking dog Wendy wow the judges | Audition Week 1 | Britain's Got Talent 2015 - YouTube
[20:32] <Seniorita> »See more from Britain's Got Talent at http://itv.com/talent The Judges are left open-mouthed when Marc Métral introduces his talking dog Miss Wendy. "Congrat...«
[20:32] <upd> ah k sem mislu da bo psa imel ha
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2015-04-23-#ubuntu-africa
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[06:21] <philipballew> Kilos, If you need, when you are away with no power I can do English greetings and point people to your site.
[06:22] <Kilos> wonderful philipballew ty for that
[06:22] <philipballew> philipballew, yeah dude. Happy to help out where I cann.
[06:22] <philipballew> *can
[06:24] <Kilos> i just need to find guys as well that can greet in all the languages as well. like i think rejerson69 doesnt understan english or french
[06:24] <Kilos> maybe need to add something to the site for swahili
[06:29] <Kilos> great to have you on board philipballew ty so much
[06:30] <philipballew> Kilos, how many languages should we support? and I think that the intro/greeting should be in several languages also.
[06:30] <philipballew> also maybe setting up tags for people to do like
[06:30] <philipballew> !english
[06:30] <philipballew> or something like that
[06:30] * philipballew is just throwing ideas out
[06:33] <Kilos> yeah i can work up maybe something in the topic bar as well for different languages
[06:34] <philipballew> Kilos, what languages do you think should be official?
[06:35] <Kilos> i think the guys that have linked up with us so far can do them. there are a couple on the west upper coast like ethiopia tha have joined but have very little free time to chat here much
[06:35] <Kilos> english, french and swahili so far
[06:36] <philipballew> Egypt has a nice community as well iirc
[06:36] * philipballew only speaks English and Spanish
[06:36] <Kilos> oh we have a guy here from egypt
[06:38] * pieter2627 would like to point to http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Languages_of_Africa
[06:38] <Kilos> here are those that have joined us https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AfricanTeams
[06:39] <philipballew> thats a lot pieter2627
[06:40] <philipballew> Kilos, I think a big social media push is also necessary here.
[06:40] <Kilos> we are looking in facebook as well but thats not my cup of tea
[06:40] <philipballew> Kilos, I think that you running something similar to Ubucon LA is not a bad idea?
[06:40] <philipballew> Kilos, I do twitter
[06:40] <Kilos> soon we will hit twitter too
[06:41] <philipballew> if you need help with twitter I can assist
[06:41] <philipballew> but eventually running an Ubucon would be ideal
[06:41] <Kilos> just advertise the site and this channel i think
[06:41] <philipballew> yes. That is what we need first.
[06:41] <philipballew> then branch out
[06:42] <Kilos> ill see who can do FB for us and inetpro will do G+
[06:43] <Kilos> philipballew pieter2627 is one of our za member that helped with the site content
[06:43] <philipballew> pieter2627, it looks cool!
[06:44] <Kilos> and inetpro has his fingers in everywhere
[06:45] <pieter2627> oh yeah sorry for bad manners. Hi philipballew and ty
[06:45] <Kilos> should have been an ubuntu member years ago imo
[06:45] <philipballew> being an Ubuntu member is cool
[06:45] <Kilos> yeah
[06:46] <Kilos> haha i even got an email from mark saying i forgot to give the link
[06:46] <Kilos> im old and forgetful so hopefully im forgiven
[06:55] <Kilos> see like these peeps philipballew https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-cd
[06:56] <Kilos> i had no email replies from them until i had my greeting translated to french, then we got replies
[07:07] <Kilos> stickyboy where are you now
[08:39] <Kilos> hi there elacheche
[08:40] <Kilos> read this mornings logs
[08:40] <elacheche> Hi Kilos :) You missed a new visitor last night :) Check the logs if you like :)
[08:40] <Kilos> did you greet
[08:41] <Kilos> when im sleeping you guys must do the invites and welcomes please
[08:41] <elacheche> Kilos, check the logs and you tell me :) ;)
[08:42] <Kilos> lol i can never find logs
[08:42] <Kilos> link please!
[08:42] <Kilos> let me try again
[08:43] <elacheche> here you go http://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2015/04/22/%23ubuntu-africa.html#t21:37
[08:43] <Kilos> ty
[08:45] <Kilos> oh yeah i know melodie, i invited her to check out this channel and ubuntu-za
[08:48] <elacheche> Kilos, him! ;)
[08:48] <Kilos> sshe
[08:49] <Kilos> she works vewry hard for the linux cause
[08:49] <Kilos> very
[08:50] <elacheche> oups, didn't notice she's a girl tell now.. x)
[08:50] <Kilos> haha
[08:50] <Kilos> mature woman
[08:51] <elacheche> "mature" That's I know :) she uses FOSS for a while x)
[08:51] <Kilos> she is even training mali peeps to do admin for linux in schools i think
[08:51] <elacheche> awesome
[08:52] <Kilos> i need to find someone to translate my greeting message into swahili as well i think
[08:53] <Kilos> i have it in french and english only
[08:56] <elacheche> Kilos, you're south africain, you should be talking swahli :p
[08:57] <Kilos> nono we have zulu and xhosa here
[08:57] <Kilos> and sotho
[08:58] <Kilos> and i only know bits
[09:00] <elacheche> :)
[09:03] <Kilos> see like rejerson69 might not understand us
[09:04] <Kilos> i can say dumela and sawubona but not much more
[09:26] <elacheche> :)
[09:26] <Kilos> lol
[19:43] <melodie> hi
[19:52] <stickyboy> Kilos: Meeting with Linux people in Addis on Saturday,
[19:52] <stickyboy> elacheche: Swahili is Kenya / Tanzania. :P
[20:22] <melodie> good night
[20:27] <ubuntiste-msakni> thanks for the information stickyboy :)
[20:48] <ubuntiste-msakni> http://www.webupd8.org/2015/04/ubuntu-desktop-to-eventually-switch-to.html
[20:53] <ubuntiste-msakni> stickyboy, you're sleeping? :p
[21:08] <stickyboy> ubuntiste-msakni: Nah, not sleeping. Should be. I'm working on some XML crap with sed.
[21:08] <ubuntiste-msakni> x) have fun :D
[21:13] <stickyboy> ubuntiste-msakni: I edited bunch of files manually, and now I found out the tabs weren't spaces.
[21:13] <stickyboy> And I am kinda anal, so I wanna fix it. But ugh.
[21:19] <ubuntiste-msakni> I know that feeling.. :/
[21:20] <ubuntiste-msakni> I hate working on XML
[21:21] <stickyboy> ubuntiste-msakni: I'm not parsing it or anything hehe.
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2015-04-23-#ubuntu-vn
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[03:25] <vubuntor394> làm thế nào để phục hồi Ubuntu trong thời gian ít hơn 10 phút nếu bị sự cố máy không khởi động được
[03:26] <Stanley00> vubuntor394: backup mỗi ngày và phục hồi lại khi có sự cố :P
[03:27] <MrTuxHdb> vubuntor394: thế nào gọi là sự cố
[03:27] <MrTuxHdb> :3
[03:27] <Stanley00> mà cài lại cũng chỉ mất có 15 phút chứ mấy đâu nhỉ, tại sao lại phải *ít hơn 10 phút*?
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2015-04-23-#ubuntustudio-devel
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[10:02] <zequence> OvenWerks: 32bit OS can not be booted with UEFI
[10:02] <zequence> OvenWerks: I'll add a comment about the startup usb creator
[10:02] <zequence> UEFI is strictly 64bit only
[10:03] <zequence> We should see about changing the screensaver. Seems it's old and not well maintained
[10:03] <zequence> May even be a security risc
[10:03] <zequence> Sorry, I had no time to do testing yesterday
[10:06] <zequence> Will test the 32bit ISO now
[12:07] <astraljava> zequence: Is it the xscreensaver? It's easily changed as Xubuntu sports light-locker.
[12:07] <astraljava> Just change the seeds.
[12:07] <astraljava> IIRC
[13:06] <OvenWerks> elfy: marking test cases for vivid final shows up as daily. That is I went to the final page, then selected our ISO and the page it goes to says daily.
[13:06] <OvenWerks> Is this normal/ok?
[13:07] <elfy> same for us
[13:07] <elfy> as long as you start in the right place - result will be in the right place
[13:07] <OvenWerks> ok thanks
[13:08] <elfy> yea - the one I reported yesterday is there
[13:09] * elfy is already thinking about wibbly whinocewos
[13:10] <OvenWerks> Not the x-ray?
[13:11] <elfy> not yet - need to try and increase testing for that one
[13:12] <OvenWerks> elfy: I have not heard anything about MIR for a long time... whatever happened to that?
[13:12] <elfy> it's still there afaik
[13:13] <elfy> as it's not affecting us yet I've not taken much notice
[13:13] * OvenWerks is off to work...
[13:13] <elfy> cya
[13:39] <elfy> zequence: you about to mark images ready if they ping ?
[13:44] <zequence> elfy: Just did
[13:54] <elfy> good, they'll not ask me then :p
[13:58] <zequence> elfy: Seems like our images were released already though
[13:58] <zequence> http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/ubuntustudio/releases/15.04/release/
[13:59] <elfy> seems so
[14:14] <zequence> I've prepared release notes at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/VividVervet/ReleaseNotes/UbuntuStudio
[14:14] <zequence> If someone wants to change or add something, please go ahead
[14:14] <zequence> Also, there's a draft for the release announcement at our web page
[14:15] <zequence> Our download page is already updated
[14:15] <zequence> I'll send out the announcement as soon as we get the go ahead
[14:16] <zequence> (or as soon as I'm aware of it)
[14:42] <astraljava> Whee! Congrats on the release!
[19:27] <zequence> Placed an order on the bq Ubuntu phone. Should arrive within the week
[20:07] <OvenWerks> zequence: keep us posted on the phone. Android does not have usable latency for audio work.
[20:07] <DalekSec> zequence: Would you like the honors of #ubuntustudio's topic update?
[20:20] <zequence> DalekSec: I don't remember how to do that, so if someone else has the rights I'd rather not just now
[20:21] <OvenWerks> holstein: ^^^
[20:21] <zequence> OvenWerks: From what I understand, bq does the kernel for that phone. Will be interesting to see how it performs
[20:21] <zequence> And, also - how easy is it to make changes?
[20:21] <OvenWerks> I would guess they have to do at least some.
[20:22] <OvenWerks> to the topic? Rewrite the whole topic with /topic after giving oneself rights
[20:23] <OvenWerks> Using copy paste from the old to new could save some of the work.
[20:24] <zequence> I'll forget the details by the time I need to do it again.
[20:25] <zequence> :)
[20:30] <DalekSec> zequence: With irssi, /topic <tab> Op yourself first, or after doing the aforementioned, prefix the topic with /msg chanserv topic #ubuntustudio TOPIC HERE
[20:30] <DalekSec> OvenWerks: Already snagged it.
[23:22] <OvenWerks> zequence: I am going to try starting with a xubuntu-core ISO and see how much work it is to make Studio out of it.
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2015-04-23-#ubuntu-us-fl
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[14:07] <danstoner> FYI, the Dell Latitude E7240 seems to perfectly support Ubuntu 14.04.2 LTS
[14:08] <danstoner> at least when booted from Live usb
[14:08] <danstoner> all of the buttons, volume, brightness, everything
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ubuntu-chat
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2024-05-13T22:11:16.588880
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"danstoner"
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2015-04-23-#juju-dev
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[00:12] <mup> Bug #1447390 was opened: mongo tools missing on centos <juju-core:New> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1447390>
[00:12] <mup> Bug #1447392 was opened: ssh args list too long when bootstrapping <juju-core:New for bteleaga> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1447392>
[01:05] <wallyworld_> thumper: you around?
[03:16] <perrito666> wallyworld: http://reviews.vapour.ws/r/1472/
[03:17] <wallyworld> ty, will look real soon
[03:24] <perrito666> wallyworld: pushing a cleaner branch now that one got some odd merges from master
[03:24] * perrito666 wonders if rb will cope with it
[03:25] <perrito666> it did and it fits one page
[03:25] <perrito666> k its midnight I am out cheers
[04:27] <jam> wwitzel3: ping
[05:07] <mup> Bug #1447446 was opened: 1.23.1: bootstrap failure, vivid, local provider <landscape> <juju-core:New> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1447446>
[05:12] <wallyworld> thumper: you around?
[06:15] <wallyworld> jam: you have a few minutes?
[06:16] <jam> wallyworld: sure
[06:16] <jam> what's up ?
[06:16] <wallyworld> jam: need someone to tell me i'm an idiot, can you join say the TL hangout
[06:17] <jam> core-leads-call?
[06:17] <wallyworld> yeah
[09:05] <mgz> wallyworld: still up?
[09:30] <mgz> jam: poké
[09:31] <mgz> jam: <http://reviews.vapour.ws/r/1470/> 'm not being unreasonable right?
[10:57] <wallyworld> mgz: sorry, was at soccer
[10:58] <mgz> wallyworld: no problem, sending email with update
[11:02] <perrito666> wallyworld: we really need a video of you playing socker
[11:02] <perrito666> soccer*
[11:02] <wallyworld> perrito666: no we don't :-)
[11:02] <perrito666> for... negotiation purposes
[11:03] <mgz> okay, I'm having lunch now, see email/review for init woes
[12:02] <wwitzel3> jam: pong
[12:36] <tasdomas> hi, could somebody take a look at http://reviews.vapour.ws/r/1116/ ?
[13:21] <mup> Bug #1447595 was opened: TestLeadership fails on windows test slave <ci> <test-failure> <juju-core:Triaged> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1447595>
[13:41] <mgz> bogdanteleaga: when proposing crazy mps some more explaination on *why* changing the whitespace fixes the issue would be helpful :)
[13:41] <mgz> and what the issue is, for that matter
[13:55] <bogdanteleaga> mgz: I accidentally discovered bash doesn't like the script with the old whitespace formatting
[13:56] <bogdanteleaga> mgz: I'll edit the message, sure
[14:02] <katco> natefinch: ericsnow: stand up
[14:04] <mgz> bogdanteleaga: see, that does sound fun, I want the whole story in the mp :)
[14:04] <mgz> (also, I think there's an associated lp bug?)
[14:08] <bogdanteleaga> mgz: :)
[14:08] <bogdanteleaga> mgz: there's no bug for this one
[14:08] <bogdanteleaga> mgz: but it would be nice to get it in along with the bugfix
[15:31] <natefinch> ericsnow: are you looking at https://bugs.launchpad.net/juju-core/+bug/1447446 ? Or are you working on something else?
[15:31] <mup> Bug #1447446: 1.23.1: bootstrap failure, vivid, local provider <landscape> <juju-core:Triaged> <juju-core 1.23:Triaged> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1447446>
[15:31] <ericsnow> natefinch: yep (forgot to assign it to me)
[15:31] <natefinch> ericsnow: cool
[15:51] <katco> ericsnow: please add that to the kanban as well
[15:51] <ericsnow> katco: will do
[15:51] <katco> ericsnow: ty sir
[15:54] <katco> ericsnow: pro tip: you can just paste the bug ID in the "card id" field of the card, and it will auto link everything
[15:55] <ericsnow> katco: yeah, just noticed :)
[15:55] <lazyPower> is this something awesome you have setup or is this auto-behavior?
[15:55] <katco> lazyPower: it's board specific
[15:55] <katco> lazyPower: the board owner must set it up
[15:55] <lazyPower> ah, we have an intermediary service we're routing through to get the functionality
[15:56] <lazyPower> i can see wher this works for your team as juju-core is one project
[15:56] <lazyPower> we're tracking across ~ 8 billion (give or take a few billion)
[15:56] <ericsnow> lazyPower: we scored a good lead with katco :)
[15:56] <lazyPower> ericsnow: she's prettttyyy cool, i'll admit.
[15:56] * lazyPower hands katco a gold star
[15:57] <ericsnow> natefinch was good too :)
[15:57] * katco spends the next five minutes trying to press the star onto her nose
[15:57] <ericsnow> katco: doesn't it go on your belly (or was that 2 stars)
[15:58] * katco is a bit lost there
[15:58] <ericsnow> katco: Dr. Suess (star belly sneeches)
[15:59] <katco> my daughter hasn't reached the age where i'm back up on Dr. S yet :p
[16:08] <natefinch> ericsnow: katco is 1000x as organized as I was. I think we
[16:08] <natefinch> we'll be a lot more successful with her leading :)
[16:08] <ericsnow> natefinch: :)
[16:10] * perrito666 imagines moonstone conquering countries and taking power
[16:11] <katco> emacs will be mandatory.
[16:11] <katco> which will lead to us being overthrown eventually
[16:11] * perrito666 starts a preemtive revolution
[16:11] <katco> but it will be beautiful and terrifying while it lasts
[16:12] <katco> ;p
overthrow
[16:15] <wwitzel3> perrito666: are you working on that issue with maas?
[16:15] <perrito666> wwitzel3: bogdanteleaga is
[16:16] <bogdanteleaga> there's a fix waiting for review, feel free to try it out in the meantime
[16:26] <sinzui> natefinch, I will now bug you less.
[16:27] <natefinch> huzzah!
[16:28] * natefinch notes that katco will probably now bug him a lot more, though ;)
[16:29] <katco> haha
[16:36] <katco> ericsnow: natefinch: it's certainly not hurting anything, but for now, don't feel the need to put points to bugs. if it makes you happy, please continue :)
[16:38] <natefinch> katco: yeah, I meant to ask about that.
[16:39] <katco> natefinch: i think we'll only need to point planned feature work
[16:40] <natefinch> katco: fair enough
[16:40] <natefinch> katco: maybe we should actively not put points on bugs, so we don't screw with our velocity?
[16:41] <katco> natefinch: i'm really flexible... i think the reporting can sift that out
[17:31] <wwitzel3> alexisb: ping
[17:32] <alexisb> wwitzel3, omy
[17:32] <alexisb> omw
[18:02] <ericsnow> what's our restriction on Go version?
[18:02] <natefinch> 1.2.2
[18:02] <ericsnow> looks like the patch for the vmware provider relies on Go 1.3 features
[18:03] <natefinch> REJECTION
[18:03] <ericsnow> (or rather struct fields that don't exist in 1.3)
[18:03] <katco> wwitzel3: ericsnow: core meeting
[19:05] <natefinch> gsamfira: you around?
[19:11] <natefinch> ahh crap, I forgot the uniter tests are an annoyingly monolithic table driven test
[19:12] <perrito666> :D yes they are
[19:27] <natefinch> fwereade: what's wrong with this line? runCommands{`if [ $(is-leader) != "False" ]; then exit -1; fi`},
[19:28] <natefinch> fwereade: to be more specific, what happens when that test runs on windows? :P
[19:29] <perrito666> the fact that is a bash ugly oneliner
[19:29] * fwereade did something bashy again? sorry :(
[19:29] <natefinch> fwereade: or you committed someone else's work so you get blamed for it ;)
[19:29] <fwereade> natefinch, nah, that was me
[19:30] <natefinch> fwereade: I'm looking to fix https://bugs.launchpad.net/juju-core/+bug/1446871
[19:30] <mup> Bug #1446871: Unit hooks fail on windows if PATH is uppercase <ci> <hooks> <windows> <juju-core:Triaged by natefinch> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1446871>
[19:30] <natefinch> fwereade: but when I went to run the tests on windows, saw some other failures too
[19:31] <fwereade> natefinch, I guess it should have different constants in util_*_test.go
[19:34] <natefinch> fwereade: it would be a lot easier to understand how to fix it if I didn't need to parse a 1600 line DSL first :/ Last time I had to fix a uniter test it took me like 3 days for a relatively simple fix :/
[19:34] <fwereade> natefinch, which is why I've pulled so much of it out into separate packages with things resembling actual unit tests
[19:35] <natefinch> fwereade: didn't realize you were doing that. I hugely appreciate that.
[19:35] <katco> natefinch: the most succinct way to state why table tests should be used sparingly is: you are defining your own test runner which has a very small sub-set of its larger test runner.
[19:35] <katco> why that is bad should be pretty obvious
[19:36] <katco> sorry, very small sub-set of features of its larger test runner
[19:36] <fwereade> natefinch, that bug looks like it should be reasonably possible to repro it in unit tests somewhere in uniter/runner
[19:36] <natefinch> katco: ironically, we're already one more level deep using gocheck
[19:36] <katco> yep
[19:36] <katco> but at least gocheck is a proper test runner
[19:37] <perrito666> katco: anyone against your argument should be forced to change the current accepted values for statuses :p it is much like a domino castle
[19:37] <fwereade> natefinch, ...which remains less well tested than I would like, but *should* have some explicit tests for the env-var population bits
[19:38] <katco> perrito666: i had to touch that code once and wowwwww
[19:39] <perrito666> katco: it took me five minutes to change the values and validators and setters.. and 4 days to fix that test
[19:40] <katco> perrito666: yeah exactly my experience
[19:48] <natefinch> fwereade: so I'm just trying to get the tests to actually run on windows and then I'll tackle the env casing problem... is there not some more simple way to verify that the hook tool isn't there, rather than sending a command-line for the uniter to run? Yes, we could make one that runs on windows and one on linux... but that still seems like the most complicated way to test if a file exists on disk.
[19:49] <fwereade> natefinch, well, those tests are the effectively the functional tests for the uniter
[19:49] <fwereade> natefinch, you should be able to write a test case in uniter/runner that exposes the problem, though
[19:50] <fwereade> natefinch, env.go
[19:50] <fwereade> natefinch, ha:
[19:50] <fwereade> if runtime.GOOS == "windows" {
[19:50] <fwereade> c.Skip("bug 1403084: There are some problems regarding os.Environ() on windows")
[19:50] <fwereade> }
[19:50] <mup> Bug #1403084: Tests that need to be fixed on windows <ci> <tech-debt> <testing> <windows> <juju-core:Fix Released> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1403084>
[19:50] <fwereade> natefinch, so I'd start there, I think
[19:51] <natefinch> fwereade: ok
[19:51] <fwereade> natefinch, I know there's a bit of jiggery-pokery regarding env vars for windows -- we were doing <something> twice in some circumstances, and I distorted the code a bit to make sure we only did it once
[19:53] <fwereade> natefinch, so there is another path you need to check somewhere to make sure it works in some weird context (juju-run, or debug-hooks, or something)
[19:54] <bogdanteleaga> iirc that test was skipped because os.Environ() introduced some flaky variables, but it should not affect anything else
[19:54] <fwereade> natefinch, at a guess the problem is env.go:54?
[19:54] <fwereade> "Path=" + paths.GetToolsDir() + ";" + os.Getenv("Path"),
[19:55] <fwereade> natefinch, a few extra tests similar to TestEnvWindows should pick it up, I think?
[19:56] <fwereade> natefinch, although you should figure out what happens when you've got path and PATH and Path all defined -- presumably the `Path` we write is lower priority than whichever one's already set in problematic situations?
[19:57] <fwereade> natefinch, regardless, you shouldn't need to touch the giant uniter functional tests just for that fix, so long as you can demonstrate it in the unit tests
[19:57] <bogdanteleaga> actually, since I don't get the juju-log.exe not found on my machine, the env_test.go might reveal the issues on the problematic machines
[19:58] <natefinch> fwereade: The uniter tests don't pass on windows right now. That's part of that bug.
[19:58] <natefinch> fwereade: unrelated to the environment variables
[20:00] <fwereade> natefinch, ok, and they should; but the bug has "Any windows machine with casing of the path variable other than 'Path' will fail to find hook tools."
[20:00] <mgz_> bogdanteleaga: thanks!
[20:01] <natefinch> fwereade: yes, I know. I'm just trying to get the tests to a point where they only fail for that reason, then I can fix that reason
[20:01] <bogdanteleaga> natefinch: I think it's only env issues at this point
[20:02] <bogdanteleaga> natefinch: it complains about not finding juju-log.exe at some point
[20:02] <bogdanteleaga> natefinch: after executing it moments before
[20:03] <mgz> bogdanteleaga: assign bug 1447595 to yourself :)
[20:03] <mup> Bug #1447595: TestLeadership fails on windows test slave <ci> <test-failure> <juju-core:Triaged> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1447595>
[20:03] <fwereade> natefinch, I submit that you will have an easier time of it if you repro and address the path issue in isolation
[20:03] <fwereade> natefinch, lest you get caught in a morass of other unexpected problems with the uniter test on windows
[20:04] <bogdanteleaga> mgz: done
[20:04] <bogdanteleaga> http://reviews.vapour.ws/r/1477/ anybody in for a fast review?
[20:04] <mgz> bogdanteleaga: lgtmed
[20:04] <fwereade> natefinch, I don't know what they might be but I'm not so optimistic as to assume the path issue is the only obstacle
[20:06] <fwereade> bogdanteleaga, I don't see where it's successfully executing juju-log.exe?
[20:06] <fwereade> brb
[20:06] <bogdanteleaga> fwereade: on install it executes, on config-changed it says not found
[20:07] <bogdanteleaga> fwereade: http://data.vapour.ws/juju-ci/products/version-2549/run-unit-tests-win2012-amd64/build-276/consoleText
[20:07] <bogdanteleaga> fwereade: second test
[20:10] <mgz> be a bit wary of that log, it would be one with both PATH and Path set in the environment block, which could well do weird things
[20:11] <fwereade> bogdanteleaga, ...I see
[20:11] <natefinch> huh, interesting, for some reason go test's -test.foo style flags don't work in powershell
[20:11] <fwereade> bogdanteleaga, well, that's exciting
[20:11] <mgz> basically we just need a helper in utils that handles this correctly that both utils/exec and the uniter can use
[20:11] <bogdanteleaga> mgz: afaik, I can't merge it so you can do it if you want to
[20:11] <fwereade> mgz, yeah, PrependToPath or something
[20:12] <bogdanteleaga> they pass for me on both win8 and win server so I can't really reproduce this one
[20:12] <fwereade> mgz, I am somewhat convinced that we could come up with a happier arrangement of utils/exec so we didn't have that func cloned in both places
[20:13] <mgz> fwereade: indeed
[20:13] <fwereade> bogdanteleaga, can you try changing the env we set up in the tests? just tweak the value in env_test.go:125 and see what you get
[20:13] <bogdanteleaga> but the juju-log.exe thing has been there for a while, did you have both set up for a long time?
[20:14] <mgz> bogdanteleaga: $$merge$$ requested - I'll look at your other branches again later if I get a mo
[20:14] <bogdanteleaga> cool, they're just as small :)
[20:14] <mgz> the other complication I didn't call out in the bug - the go behaviour of os.Getenv on windows changes
[20:15] <mgz> it's exact case in 1.2 but uses windows api in I think 1.3 and that will retrieve Path if you ask for PATH and visa versa
[20:15] <bogdanteleaga> now that's fun
[20:17] <mgz> I had the intention of getting to fix this some point this week... but many things have intervened. I'll happily throw peanuts at nate though :)
[20:18] <natefinch> I like peanuts :)
[20:19] <bogdanteleaga> fwereade: http://paste.ubuntu.com/10873918/ not sure what you're looking for
[20:20] <fwereade> bogdanteleaga, I was thinking more about s/Path/PATH/ than s/bar/obar/?
[20:21] <fwereade> and, well, it'll fail for sure, but it might fail in an interesting and instructive way... for someone running the right version of go... possibly on a suitably idiosyncratic windows box
[20:22] <bogdanteleaga> fwereade: sounds like quite the setup
[20:23] <fwereade> bogdanteleaga, yeah, I guess it takes some proper investigation
[20:25] <bogdanteleaga> mgz: looks like it crashed, not sure why though
[20:27] <mgz> hm, godeps failed, 'unrecognized import path "gopkg.in/natefinch/lumberjack.v2"'
[20:27] <mgz> did someone delete nate?
[20:31] <natefinch> mgz: better not have
[20:32] <natefinch> mgz: works for me
[20:32] <natefinch> mgz: godeps and go get
[20:33] <mgz> natefinch: likely something intermittent and networky
[20:33] <natefinch> mgz: could be a bad HTTP response from gopkg.in confused it
[20:33] <mgz> I'll remerge and see
[20:34] <bogdanteleaga> fwereade: changing it to PATH doesn't make it fail :)
[20:43] <bogdanteleaga> mgz: that's what I get for pushing from windows with no prepush hook. can you try again?
[20:43] <fwereade> anyone for a *really* trivial review? http://reviews.vapour.ws/r/1478/diff/
[20:45] <natefinch> fwereade: ship it!
[20:45] <fwereade> natefinch, cheers
[20:47] <mgz> bogdanteleaga: sad gofmt :) regoing
[20:57] <natefinch> fwereade, mgz, bogdanteleaga: for the record, doing sets and gets in a simple program, I can't get setenv and getenv to act incorrectly on 1.2.2 .... get always seems case insensitive
[20:57] <natefinch> (on windows)
[20:58] <mgz> okay, maybe that bug report was wrong, good good
[20:58] <bogdanteleaga> for me os.Environ() returns =ExitCode= in the environment on win2012r2
[20:58] <natefinch> (sorry, get and set are both case insensitive)
[20:58] <mgz> so, it's just the use of os.Environ() that's particularly suspect
[20:59] <natefinch> mgz: probably just our use of os.Environ.... we probably expect it to be case sensitive, and it's not
[21:00] <mgz> well, it's case-preserving
[21:01] <mgz> you just can't do straight string matches vs things you've pulled out previously with os.Getenviron
[21:01] <natefinch> yes
[21:01] <mgz> -iron
[21:01] <natefinch> gotta run, talk later.
[21:01] <mgz> later nater
[21:08] <fwereade> I have an even simpler review: http://reviews.vapour.ws/r/1479/
[21:08] <fwereade> the description is noticeably larger than the change
[21:26] <fwereade> menn0, good morning, can I hit you up for a review or 2?
[21:26] <fwereade> menn0, http://reviews.vapour.ws/r/1479/ is genuinely trivial
[21:26] <menn0> fwereade: sure
[21:27] <fwereade> menn0, and http://reviews.vapour.ws/r/1224/ is less so, but I think and hope it's well-commented and documented, and has been used in anger in enough pending CLs, that I think it should be good
[21:28] <fwereade> tasdomas, ...unless you're around and want to celebrate your graduation by upgrading your I-think-it-makes-sense to and LGTM? ;p
[21:30] <menn0> fwereade: I'll take a look
[21:39] <menn0> fwereade: sorry, just dropped out (keyboard problems, stuck capslock)
[21:39] <menn0> fwereade: looking now
[21:40] <fwereade> menn0, no worries :)
[21:42] <alexisb> so menn0 fair warning, critical interrupt headed your way
[21:43] <fwereade> menn0, then definitely don't worry about 1224
[21:44] <menn0> alexisb: ok... a critical bug fix?
[21:44] <alexisb> menn0, yes, maybe you and fwereade can have a critical bug party :)
[21:44] <alexisb> wallyworld, has the details
[21:48] <menn0> fwereade: ship it for 1479
[21:49] <menn0> fwereade: it wasn't immediately obvious why it fixes the problem but after a bit of digging I think I get it
[21:49] <menn0> fwereade: at any rate, it's a more straightforward way of getting the job done
[21:49] <fwereade> menn0, indeed
[21:50] <fwereade> menn0, glad it passes a sniff test though, I lost much of the detailed context by not extracting it immediately
[21:51] <menn0> fwereade: just looking at 1224 now. i'm glad that you've been looking at this. the way works are started and managed has become a mess.
[21:52] <menn0> workers even
[21:52] <fwereade> menn0, yeah
[21:52] <fwereade> menn0, I am currently rather quailing at the prospect of fixing the machine agent
[21:52] <fwereade> menn0, the unit agent was hard enough
[21:52] <fwereade> menn0, but I've had some practice now :)
[22:01] <wallyworld> menn0: did you have a moment to chat? maybe in the onyx standup hangout?
[22:02] <menn0> wallyworld: sure. give me a minute.
[22:02] <wallyworld> np
[22:21] <mgz> ...do I send my daily dose of good news to the mailing list?
[22:21] <mgz> "hey everyone, have these orrible breaking bugs to play with..."
[22:22] <menn0> fwereade: are you still around? one of the bugs i'm looking at now might be related to recent uniter changes
[22:24] <menn0> jw4: ping/
[22:24] <jw4> menn0: ola
[22:24] <menn0> jw4: you've been looking at bug 1438489
[22:24] <mup> Bug #1438489: juju stop responding after juju-upgrade <upgrade-juju> <juju-core:In Progress by johnweldon4> <juju-core 1.23:Triaged by johnweldon4> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1438489>
[22:25] <menn0> jw4: where are things at right now?
[22:25] <jw4> menn0: yes, I'm afraid I'm responsible for that one
[22:25] <jw4> menn0: I think the cleanest might be to back out my hook changes from a few weeks ago
[22:25] <mgz> menn0: see also https://chinstrap.canonical.com/~gz/ for that, some logs and things that may be of interest
[22:26] <menn0> jw4: what's the PR with your hook changes?
[22:26] <jw4> menn0: let me find it
[22:27] <menn0> mgz: thanks
[22:28] <jw4> menn0: https://github.com/juju/juju/pull/1897
[22:29] <jw4> menn0: I'd prefer to fix it though rather than backing it out
[22:30] <jw4> menn0: I haven't figured out why the hooks quit firing after the upgrade - I just assumed it was because of those changes of mine
[22:31] <menn0> jw4: shall I take a look?
[22:31] <menn0> agreed that fixing is preferrable to backing out if possible
[22:31] <jw4> menn0: feel free - the repo is easy
[22:31] <jw4> s/repo/repro/
[22:32] <jw4> all I did to reproduce was to install 1.22, install charm, upgrade to 1.23, observe that hooks quit firing
[22:33] <menn0> jw4: cool
[22:33] <jw4> menn0: mgz just added a simple repro step to the bug
[22:33] <menn0> jw4: what about the recent attempts to fix this? should they stay or be pulled?
[22:34] <menn0> jw4: PRs 2067 and 2058
[22:34] <mgz> menn0: if I understand correctly, the earlier landing was just making trying to make the error not as fatal, didn't change the upgrade step itself
[22:34] <jw4> menn0: the other fixes are actually valid...
[22:34] <menn0> jw4: ok. just confirming.
[22:34] <jw4> mgz: menn0 yeah.. actually this upgrade issue shouldn't be related to the upgrade steps
[22:35] <jw4> more likely that it's related to the uniter logic itself that changed, if indeed it was caused by my original PR
[22:36] <menn0> jw4: what about the errors related to not being able to read the uniter state?
[22:36] <jw4> (the upgrade steps are effectively a no-op, because of a misunderstanding in how upgrades were handled)
[22:36] <mgz> this is one of those kinda-shoulda just backed out in response to the bug cases, but the fact we weren't yelling because our upgrade job passed let it slip
[22:37] <jw4> menn0: that was because of tightened validation logic. Since the upgrade steps actually didn't work it was reverted to what was originally there
[22:38] <jw4> mgz: yeah... however, I haven't established yet that the hooks not firing is a result of the original PR, but it sure looks suspicious
[22:39] <menn0> jw4, mgz: ok well let me run with it for a bit and see what I find
[22:39] <jw4> menn0, mgz originally this bug was about the uniter getting into a validation error loop, but now we're past that because of the other fixes, and now we're encountering this issue with hooks not firing
[22:40] <menn0> jw4: understood, thanks
[22:40] * jw4 needs to drop off to take son to drum lessons... bbl
[22:41] <menn0> jw4: np, talk to you later
[22:41] <menn0> mgz: do we still have a problem with upgrades to 1.23 as well?
[22:42] <menn0> mgz: or is it just 1.24 at this stage?
[22:42] <mgz> menn0: the critical part is the upgrade path from 1.22 to 1.23, which exhibits this bug
[22:42] <mgz> I've not seperately tested 1.23 to 1.24 but the next CI run of a trunk branch will do that for us.
[22:43] <menn0> mgz: ok, i'll focus on the upgrade to 1.23 to start
[22:52] <mup> Bug #1447841 was opened: eu-central-1 AWS region V4 signing required and not supported <juju-core:New> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1447841>
[23:04] <mup> Bug #1447841 changed: eu-central-1 AWS region V4 signing required and not supported <juju-core:Triaged> <juju-core 1.23:Triaged> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1447841>
[23:06] <menn0> mgz: I think I see the problem. just trying to confirm now.
[23:07] <mgz> menn0: ace
[23:07] <menn0> mgz: but wallyworld needs something reviewed first
[23:08] <mgz> circular favours! I have a branch I'd like wallyworld to review (it's not urgent though :)
[23:09] <wallyworld> i'll get to it soon
[23:19] <mup> Bug #1447841 was opened: eu-central-1 AWS region V4 signing required and not supported <juju-core:Triaged> <juju-core 1.23:Triaged> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1447841>
[23:26] <wallyworld> mgz: why is Shutoff considered to be alive?
[23:29] <mgz> wallyworld: I presume because it's fine if you then manually nova start it, want be to dig up the change it was added in?
[23:30] <mgz> wallyworld: I also wanted to allow BUILD(anything) but was scared we actually depend on the machine to be in a somewhat usable state elsewhere
[23:30] <wallyworld> mgz: i ask because the behaviour is being changed from active | build and i'm not sure we want to do that
[23:31] <mgz> wallyworld: bug 1382709
[23:31] <mup> Bug #1382709: Openstack provider, Instance-state doesn't change on instance shutdown <cts> <cts-cloud-review> <status> <ubuntu-openstack> <juju-core:Fix Released by dimitern> <juju-core 1.21:Fix Released by wallyworld> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1382709>
[23:31] <mgz> wallyworld: ah, in AllInstances? that is actually dead code, I probably should have left alone
[23:32] <wallyworld> yeah, in AllInstances
[23:32] <wallyworld> you saying we don't call that anymore?
[23:32] <mgz> no usage of a provider in the juju codebase ever calls AllInstances
[23:32] <mgz> it's just part of the provider api :)
[23:32] <wallyworld> mgz: nah, it's called in bootstrap
[23:33] <wallyworld> and AllInstances should be a superset of Instances
[23:33] <wallyworld> so i'm worried about changing that
[23:35] <wallyworld> oh, right, i read the bug. doing stuff out of band we seem to be
[23:36] <mgz> hm, so it is, somewhat oodly
[23:37] <mgz> wallyworld: anyway, change just makes it more like the Instances() call so finds more stuff
[23:37] <wallyworld> yeah, fair enough
[23:37] <mgz> wallyworld: I'm not sure on the logging I added
[23:38] <mgz> I want some ammount more, but not completely sure on the balance between useful debugging and spam
[23:38] <wallyworld> make it trace perhaps
[23:40] <mgz> wallyworld: that AllInstances call in bootstrap is new, and puzzling...
[23:41] <mgz> well, new, 2014... new since I looked at that code
[23:41] <wallyworld> i can't recall the specifics
[23:42] <wallyworld> mgz: i'm not comfortable about landing this without tests - the goose test service should be updated to match
[23:43] <wallyworld> awesome
[23:43] <wallyworld> provider/cloudsigma/config.go:97: no formatting directive in Errorf call
[23:43] <wallyworld> why was stuff landed when there was a govet error
[23:43] <wallyworld> i thought we rejected such things now
[23:43] <wallyworld> mgz: ?
[23:44] <mgz> wallyworld: hm, is that still not fataled in the check script? I thought that had been flipped
[23:44] <wallyworld> mgz: me too, but i just pulled master
[23:44] <wallyworld> and now get that error
[23:45] <mgz> ./scripts/verify.bash; echo $?
[23:46] <ericsnow> could someone spare we a review on a small patch: https://github.com/juju/govmomi/pull/1
[23:47] <jw4> menn0: you figured it out?
[23:48] <menn0> jw4: still reviewing wallyworld's change. almost done.
[23:48] <jw4> ah. kk
[23:48] <menn0> jw4: but what i think is happening is that the upgrade step runs while the machine agent is upgrading
[23:49] <menn0> jw4: but at that point the unit agent is still running the previous juju version
[23:49] <menn0> jw4: so when the unit agent shuts down it overwrites the changes made by the upgrade step
[23:49] <mup> Bug #1447846 was opened: Hooks don't fire after upgrade 1.23.0 <hooks> <regression> <upgrade-juju> <juju-core:Triaged> <juju-core 1.23:Triaged> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1447846>
[23:49] <menn0> jw4: sound plausible/
[23:49] <menn0> ?
[23:49] <jw4> menn0: oooh interesting.
[23:50] <wallyworld> ericsnow: i'm not sure the build directives are correct. don't we just want go1.2 and !go1.2
[23:51] <jw4> menn0: I don't think the hook.Info upgrade step *ever* runs, because the upgrade step is supposed to find all the units for a given machine and run the upgrade on each one manually
[23:51] <wallyworld> otherwise how would it work on go1.4 etc
[23:51] <jw4> i.e. I don't think the upgrade process automatically runs upgrade steps on units, only on machines
[23:52] <jw4> maybe I'm wrong though...
[23:52] <menn0> jw4: yeah you're right... so there's 2 problems
[23:53] <menn0> jw4: the upgrade mechanics only run on the machine agents so the check for a unit tag in the upgrade step is never going to be true
[23:54] <jw4> menn0: I backburnered my upgrade steps problem by reverting the validation logic... but how does your proposed scenario cause the hooks to stop firing after upgrade?
[23:55] <jw4> (I think it's plausible, but I'm missing the connecting steps)
[23:55] <menn0> jw4: i haven't quite figured it out either
[23:56] <jw4> menn0: kk - well I'm glad to have your eyes on it... I'm embarassed by this whole issue
[23:56] <jw4> :)
[23:56] <menn0> jw4: but i'm wondering if the uniter state file hasn't been upgraded then we can end up with the "unexpected hook info with Kind Continue" error
[23:57] <jw4> menn0: yes - that error will always be logged - it's almost certainly a red herring to the real problem
[23:57] <jw4> when I 'fixed' the validation I just changed it so that instead of crashing the uniter, it just logs the problem once and then continues
[23:58] <ericsnow> wallyworld: go1.2 means Go 1.2 and later
[23:58] <jw4> so the error will always show once when the uniter starts up (until I/we fix the upgrade steps), but it shouldn't prevent the uniter from continuing normally after that
[23:59] <wallyworld> ericsnow: ah, i see, thanks
[23:59] <menn0> wallyworld: review done. for some reason RB has duplicated one of my comments for a particular section of code and I can't figure out how to fix it. please ignore the dup.
[23:59] <wallyworld> menn0: tyvm
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2015-04-23-#ubuntu-touch
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[06:57] <dholbach> good morning
[07:08] <duflu> dholbach: Good afternoon
[07:09] <dholbach> hi duflu
[07:18] <Nirmik_Kale_RnD> memory_used, memory_allocated, cpu_used, cpu_allocated
[07:18] <Nirmik_Kale_RnD> sorrry
[07:19] <ogra_> quite some statement though...
[08:44] <Mirv> pstolowski: does app installing from store use DBus at some point, somehow?
[08:45] <Mirv> pstolowski: we've a silo affecting QDBus (only) and a suspicion that app installation has more problems than before with it
[08:48] <Mirv> or alecu ^
[08:48] <pstolowski> Mirv, dbus is used to monitor installation progress
[08:49] <pstolowski> Mirv, (for the progress bar in the preview)
[08:49] <Mirv> pstolowski: ok. if there'd be a dbus error during installation, would there be an error log somewhere?
[08:51] <Mirv> pstolowski: this is about silo 018 that has a fix for the blocker bug of unity8 hanging on boot sometimes, which started appearing when libusermetrics started using more DBus in February, and the only solution is to fix the QDBus with a huge patchset from upstream
[08:52] <pstolowski> uh
[08:55] <pstolowski> Mirv, apps store scope just passes dbus object path to unity8 dash and doesn't interact with dbus directly (at least when it comes to installation); probably unity8/dash logs are first to look at
[08:55] <Mirv> pstolowski: ok, thanks
[08:57] <Saviq> tvoss, Q: we're working on persisting suspended app screenshots so that we don't keep them all in memory and can unload them as needed... having done that, if you reboot when you've had an app open and start it again, it will show the screenshot, assuming the app will restore
[08:58] <tvoss> Saviq, unload them as in unload the screenshot or unload the app?
[08:59] <Saviq> tvoss, app's not there by then (it's OOM'ed)
[08:59] <tvoss> Saviq, ack
[08:59] <Saviq> tvoss, i.e. we only use the screenshot if the app's OOM'ed, or starting
[08:59] <tvoss> that sounds good
[08:59] <Saviq> tvoss, [...] which feels correct in how our lifecycle is meant to work, but almost no apps currently do restore
[08:59] <tvoss> Saviq, aha ... so we have an issue with a visual glitch switching from stored screenshot to first screen provided by app?
[09:00] <Saviq> tvoss, well, yeah, and some weirdness that you start the app but get the screenshot straight away
[09:00] <Saviq> tvoss, it'll be reduced if/when we persist the right edge stack
[09:00] <tvoss> Saviq, mind elaborating on the first statement?
[09:01] <Saviq> tvoss, today, if you start the app after boot, we show the splash screen
[09:01] <Saviq> tvoss, and since apps don't restore, this looks consistent because on reboot the apps just start from scratch
[09:01] <Saviq> so splash screen → "fresh" app
[09:01] <tvoss> yup
[09:02] <Saviq> obviously when they're OOM'ed, it looks wrong too, because it's then screenshot → "fresh" app
[09:02] <Saviq> but now we'd extend that ↑ behaviour to reboots, too
[09:02] <Saviq> which, again, feels "correct", because we never said a reboot resets apps (or did we?)
[09:03] <Saviq> but from a user perspective might feel weird
[09:04] <nhaines> Saviq: it's what Android 5.0 does, at least.
[09:04] <nhaines> It does feel slightly weird, but you get used to it. :)
[09:05] <Saviq> nhaines, good enough for me :)
[09:05] <Saviq> at least now we'll nudge app devs to start restoring state
[09:06] <tvoss> Saviq, yup @restoring state. do you know the state of the SDK support facilities in that case?
[09:06] <tvoss> Saviq, probably a cross fade from screenshot to first app frame might be helpful, too?
[09:06] <Saviq> tvoss, there is https://developer.ubuntu.com/api/qml/sdk-14.10/Ubuntu.Components.StateSaver/
[09:06] <tvoss> bzoltan_, ^
[09:07] <tvoss> bzoltan_, do we have any idea how the adoption rate by developers is? also: iiuc, this is opt in?
[09:08] <Saviq> tvoss, yeah sure, we can also apply some effect on the screenshot (desaturation was one idea) while it's loading
[09:08] <Saviq> tvoss, an activity indicator in the middle of the screenshot likely makes sense, too
[09:08] <tvoss> Saviq, yup, I think we should stick to "correct", minimizing visual disturbance when going from screenshot -> first frame
[09:09] <Saviq> tvoss,
[09:09] <Saviq> ack
[09:09] <Saviq> tsdgeos, confirmed ↑
[09:09] <tvoss> Saviq, is there an easy way to get a simple video of "no effects", "with crossfade", "with desaturation"?
[09:09] <mcphail> I like the idea of desaturating the screenshot
[09:10] <nhaines> I think you should do a pallete cycle like those old DOS demos. Ambient demoscene loading music optional.
[09:10] <tvoss> Saviq, just to make sure stakeholders can comment on the MP without understanding the code?
[09:10] <Saviq> /we should stop calling it screenshot, it's an app-shot ;P
[09:10] <Saviq> tvoss, sure
[09:11] <mcphail> my apps would benefit from being taken out and shot
[09:12] <mcphail> Saviq: beyond the StateSaver, is there a way for apps to save their state if shut down cleanly? A hook or signal which would allow a write to the config file?
[09:12] <tvoss> true @appshot
[09:12] <Saviq> mcphail, you can do whatever you need when your app becomes inactive
[09:12] <Saviq> mcphail, you *should* even
[09:13] <mcphail> Saviq: so if a user swipes away the app, how do I save state?
[09:14] <Saviq> mcphail, right, that's a different pair of pants, and we'll likely resume the app in that case and let you know to shut down cleanly
[09:14] <Saviq> tvoss, ↑?
[09:15] <tvoss> mcphail, no need to, you will always receive a signal prior to suspension with a grace period before you are being shot
[09:15] <Saviq> tvoss, no, but when the user swipes the app away
[09:15] <tvoss> Saviq, no need to
[09:15] <Saviq> tvoss, we need to let it know to actually clear state
[09:15] <tvoss> Saviq, nope, not really
[09:15] <tvoss> Saviq, that's unfocused, but nothing more
[09:16] <Saviq> tvoss, no, swiped away in the spread
[09:16] <Saviq> tvoss, as in closed
[09:16] <Saviq> tvoss, when you launch the app again after that, you don't want it to restore
[09:16] <tvoss> Saviq, ah okay, so actively closed: I *think* we send the same signal
[09:16] <tvoss> oh okay, got it now :) sorry, need coffee
[09:17] <tvoss> so yeah, about to be closed might make sense here
[09:17] <Saviq> tvoss, not sure what ubuntu-app-launch does now, but it'd need to resume and SIGTERM, likely
[09:17] <tvoss> Saviq, so yeah, it would need to resume if suspended, then deliver notification, then sigterm
[09:17] <tvoss> hmmm, or could we leverage sigterm and a subsequent sigkill if app takes too long ...
[09:17] <Saviq> why notification, sigterm not enough?
[09:18] <Saviq> tvoss, yup, that's what upstart does already
[09:18] <tvoss> as long as we expose sigterm in an easily consumable way: fine as well
[09:18] <Saviq> tvoss, you generally get 5s after sigterm
[09:18] <tvoss> yup
[09:18] <tvoss> remembering now
[09:18] <tvoss> so we should check if sigterm is translated/available in QML
[09:18] <tvoss> bzoltan_, ^
[09:19] <Saviq> tvoss, http://doc.qt.io/qt-5/qml-qtquick-window-window.html#closing-signal
[09:19] <mcphail> +1 - signal handling from qml would be great
[09:19] <tvoss> Saviq, I would be surprised if sigterm is mapped tbh
[09:20] <Saviq> tvoss, it is
[09:20] <Saviq> tvoss, if you Ctrl+C qmlscene, the window just gets closed
[09:20] <tvoss> Saviq, okay, that's probably fine then
[09:20] <Saviq> tvoss, /me just not sure if MainView is a Window, it likely should be
[09:21] <Saviq> it's not atm, but you can probably wrap a MainView in a Window to get the same
[09:21] <ogra_> i dont think MainView is an actual window, only a fraction of it ... i.e. you cant fullscreen it properly
[09:21] <tvoss> Saviq, one other bit is: this works in single-surface scenarios. the more general approach would be to have the signal on the app instance
[09:22] <karni> search box in header (Messaging, Phone, for instance) does not pop the keyboard in vivid-proposed. is this a known bug?
[09:22] <karni> open Messaging -> hit search -> search box shows up focused, no keyboard
[09:23] <Saviq> tvoss, yeah true, just confirmed closing isn't emitted on Ctrl+C
[09:42] <ogra_> kemmko, would you mind to take care of bug 1445106 ... i know we had a similar one before but cant find it
[09:47] <kemmko> ogra_: having a look now
[09:47] <ogra_> thanks !
[09:56] <kemmko> ogra_: assigned the corresponding designer but pasted a link to the new notifications spec, the desired behaviour should be defined there
[09:56] <ogra_> kemmko, awesome, thanks :)
[09:58] <kemmko> ogra_: no problem at all :)
[10:02] <brunch875> good morning!
[10:02] <AlanBell> how do I update apps that are updated in the store?
[10:03] <AlanBell> or how do I get the updated version rather
[10:03] <ogra_> AlanBell, they show in the updates in system-settings
[10:04] <ogra_> (unlkike system updates you dont get a notification for them, so you need to manually check there)
[10:04] <AlanBell> I see
[10:04] <AlanBell> and I wasn't looking there because I made it writeable
[10:05] <ogra_> writable rootfs doesnt change the upgrades :)
[10:06] <ogra_> (system-image upgrades will revert all your changes though)
[10:06] <AlanBell> indeed, it just changes my probablility of looking in the right place
[10:06] <ogra_> heh
[10:06] * AlanBell installs 25 updates
[10:22] <richi__> Is it possible to have alternative keyboards on ubuntu-touch like with android? Or at least configure more meaningful long-press events?
[10:24] <beuno> richi__, not yet, but we certainly have our eye on that feature
[10:25] <bzoltan_> tvoss: ack, i look after it
[10:29] <richi__> beuno: Above the keyboard are special key combinations that are valuable for a lot of use cases. But Ctrl-B for tmux is missing.
[10:29] <richi__> beuno: That's in the terminal app.
[10:40] <ogra_> richi__, you can define that part of the terminal app via json files yourself
[10:41] <ogra_> richi__, https://swordfishslabs.wordpress.com/2015/02/27/json-profiles-in-ubuntu-terminal-app/
[11:30] <Saviq> nhaines, FYI bug #1447566
[11:37] <Silex> does anyone know if someone is working on https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/messaging-app/+bug/1436979 ?
[11:37] <popey> i think we have general copy/paste issues which are on the roadmap to be fixed, yes
[11:38] <ogra_> yeah, not specific to apps at all ...
[11:38] <ogra_> the toolkit needs to fix tht
[11:39] <Silex> popey: good. It's very annoying that "Telegram" is a better app than the basic SMS messaging app in that regard
[11:39] <Silex> (in Telegram you can copy/forward)
[11:39] <ogra_> just convert all your friends to telegram then ... bug fixed ;)
[11:39] <Silex> :)
[11:40] <Silex> I'm a C++/Qt dev and I started looking into fixing some bugs, I have to get used to QML but it looks fairly similar to js
[11:40] <Silex> How easy it is to test stuffs? Just clone some bazaar branch, make some changes & run it in the SDK simulator?
[11:41] <popey> Silex: yeah, the emulator isn't in a great state IMO
[11:41] <popey> better off using a device
[11:41] <ogra_> i even edit and test on the phone directly ... just in the /opt/click.ubunt.com/ dir of the app
[11:42] <ogra_> QMl is simple enough for doing that
[11:42] <Silex> popey: I own an Aquaris 4.5 BQ
[11:42] <jgdx> You can copy whole messages from the messaging app
[11:42] <Silex> jgdx: really?
[11:42] * Silex tries
[11:42] <jgdx> Silex, drag message to left
[11:43] <Silex> holy cow
[11:43] <jgdx> not sure it's in r21 though
[11:43] <Silex> cool!
[11:43] <Silex> never noticed there was options there
[11:43] <Silex> I noticed left drag in other apps but never right drag
[11:44] <richi__> ogra_: this is great. Thanks for the URL. I'll do that.
[11:44] <Silex> popey: alright, I'll try to make a patch for https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-clock-app/+bug/1442518
[11:45] <Silex> popey: this sounds easy to test & fix, so basically with my connected phone I can cross-compile & replace the alarm app that runs on my phone?
[11:45] <nik90> Silex: hi, I just noticed the bug this morning
[11:45] <nik90> Silex: let me know if you need help with building and testing it.
[11:45] <Silex> nik90: yeah it's kinda annoying. As a workaround, quickly edit the alarm and save it
[11:46] <Silex> nik90: I'm starting to get my hands into ubuntu touch dev, so I need to understand how the basic workflow goes
[11:46] <nik90> Silex: I was going through the code logic that does the rescheduling, but am yet to find a solution.
[11:47] <Silex> nik90: yeah as posted in the comment, the code *looks* correct, I think the bug is deeper in the alarmModel
[11:48] <nik90> Silex: the alarm model is provided to the clock app by the Ubuntu SDK..clock app just add/removes alarms from the model.
[11:49] <Silex> nik90: good to know
[11:51] <Se7> hi guys
[11:51] <Se7> i ve got 2 update, telegramm and my photo but they didn t downloading
[11:52] <Se7> i m connected on wifi
[11:52] <Silex> Se7: I had these this morning, upgraded fine. Try rebooting your phone?
[11:53] <Silex> nik90: any idea which one of these to look at? https://code.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-sdk-team
[11:54] <nik90> Silex: https://code.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-sdk-team/ubuntu-ui-toolkit/staging
[11:54] <Se7> already had a reboot i will try again
[11:54] <Silex> nik90: thanks, I looked in the one without "staging"
[11:55] <nik90> Silex: usually fixes and new features land in staging before being copied over to trunk
[11:55] <nik90> Silex: sdk devs expect development to happen in staging
[11:55] <Silex> nik90: alright. I'll grep my way into finding the alarm model :)
[11:57] <nik90> Silex: https://bazaar.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-sdk-team/ubuntu-ui-toolkit/staging/files/head:/modules/Ubuntu/Components/plugin/
[11:57] <nik90> Silex: if you have any questions regarding the alarm model, it is best to talk to zsombi on #ubuntu-app-devel
[11:57] <nik90> Silex: he is the sdk dev working on it
[11:59] <Se7> still not downloading :(
[12:02] <popey> mardy: ralsina you joining us in #ubuntu-touch-meeting ?
[12:03] <mardy> popey: one sec
[12:11] <Silex> nik90: thanks for all the infrmations
[12:15] <mcphail> 4 weeks of using UT and I forgot how to switch apps in android...
[12:15] <ogra_> yeah, the missing right swipe is annoying
[12:16] * ogra_ remembers that from 1y ago when he still touched android phones
[12:16] <mcphail> perhaps I should file a bug
[12:23] <jgdx> ogra_, switching on ios–what a nightmare
[12:23] <ogra_> haha
[12:24] <cwayne> mardy, yo, is there any doc for creating a account-plugin for a non-oauth based provider?
[12:24] <jgdx> i own an ios6 ipad and I spend 90% of the time pressing 'the one button'
[12:25] <mardy> cwayne: not really, but you can look at the owncloud one: http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~danielholm/owncloud-app/trunk/files/head:/plugin/qml/
[12:27] <cwayne> mardy, interesting, thanks. and owncloud is *just* user/pass?
[12:27] <Silex> nik90: I think I maybe found it
[12:27] <Silex> https://bazaar.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-sdk-team/ubuntu-ui-toolkit/staging/view/head:/modules/Ubuntu/Components/plugin/ucalarm.cpp#L133
[12:27] <Silex> in line 166, if alarmDate compares *only* the date and not the time, the our bug will happen
[12:27] <Silex> if it compares the time too, then the bug is somewhere else
[12:28] <Silex> s/the our/then our/
[12:28] <mardy> cwayne: it's hostname, user and pass
[12:30] <Silex> ah no, it also compares the time
[12:41] <jgdx> Silex, nik90: One thing about alarms, when I set one at night (usually around 23-01), I'm always a bit suprised that it suggests setting the alarm 30 minutes ahead of time.
[12:42] <jgdx> I think ios got that right, now + 8 hours or something
[12:42] <nik90> jgdx: clock app usually rounds up the time to the closest multiple of 5...so if you press add alarm at 23:01 ... it should show 23:05 and you can decide to keep that or change it.
[12:43] <nik90> jgdx: does it show you 23:30 instead?
[12:43] <jgdx> Wellark, the icon in the indicator is an alarm clock, used for waking people up :)
[12:43] <jgdx> nik90, ^
[12:43] <jgdx> who sleeps for 5 minutes?
[12:44] <mcphail> jgdx: me - this morning when I missed the snooze button :)
[12:44] <nik90> jgdx: well not like that, for instance now its 14:45 here..and when I open the new alarm page, it will show 14:45.. you can then change that to whatever time you want..its basically rounding of is what I meant to say
[12:45] <nik90> jgdx: which is why I am curious to know why it suggested setting the alarm to 30 minutes ahead of time
[12:45] <jgdx> nik90, I meant 5, I just guessed
[12:46] <nik90> jgdx: so what exactly do you want alarms to show?
[12:46] <jgdx> nik90, now + 8 hours
[12:46] <nik90> jgdx: and what If I want to set an alarm for the next hour?
[12:46] <jgdx> if I want to boil eggs, or do something in one hour I use a timer
[12:47] <nik90> jgdx: people take power naps which last an hour or two. ... in which case a one-time alarm can be used
[12:47] <nik90> jgdx: true, but clock app doesnt have a timer
[12:47] <jgdx> it will
[12:47] <nik90> in fact there is no timer for ubuntu touch yet
[12:48] <jgdx> that's a good point though, I thought there was a timer
[12:48] <jgdx> nik90, is that tracked?
[12:49] <nik90> yeah it is, let me try to find a bug
[12:49] <jgdx> nik90, bug 1427566
[12:49] <nik90> there you go :)
[12:50] <jgdx> nik90, good feedback from you in that bug
[12:51] <nik90> jgdx: If you think that the new alarm page should set the default time to be "now + 8hrs", please create a bug report with a clear explanation as to why it should be so and I can take it up with the design team.
[12:51] <nik90> jgdx: Android doesn't do it..so may be there is a good reasoning to just use the current time
[12:52] <jgdx> nik90, that wish implies the presence of a timer, though
[12:52] <robin-hero> nik90: jgdx: I don't like the "current time + 8 hours" idea
[12:53] <robin-hero> which OS doest this in that was?
[12:53] <robin-hero> *eay
[12:53] <robin-hero> *way
[12:53] <jgdx> robin-hero, I thought ios did this, but I don't have one in front of me
[12:53] <nik90> robin-hero: well it is just an idea that we are discussing..if it is a valid use-case then I don't see why we can't use it
[12:55] <robin-hero> nik90: Of course, but this is very weird for me :) I use the alarm for many other things, not just for wakeup :)
[12:56] <nik90> robin-hero: fair enough
[12:59] <jgdx> could be ios merely suggested the last alarm time, or alarm interval
[12:59] <jgdx> which could make more sense for robin-hero and myself
[13:00] <jgdx> s/last/most recently used
[13:02] <alecu> Mirv, pstolowski: hi, I'm catching up with the backlog regarding silo-18, dbus and installations
[13:02] <alecu> Mirv: did you guys found the issue? should I take a look also?
[13:03] <Mirv> alecu: pstolowski: the problem is that with that silo U1 account gets removed upon reboot and/or clicking Install button, although if the account is readded installing apps works for the duration of that boot.
[13:06] <alecu> Mirv: weird. The u1 account should only be removed if the credentials are no longer valid; I find it very strange that it would be removed on installation.
[13:07] <Elleo> nik90: what's your opinion on screenshots for the next podbird release, I'm thinking of maybe making them with the new header in vivid as it looks nicer (the counter argument being that it won't match exactly what the user will see until the vivid upgrade), what're your thoughts?
[13:07] <nik90> Elleo: it does look nicer but it will be inconsistent though..how about we update the scrreenshots when OTA-4 based on vivid lands instead?
[13:08] <Elleo> nik90: could do
[13:08] <nik90> Elleo: the issue is that in the dark theme, the app header is barely distinct from the app content and is a tiny bit confusing
[13:09] <nik90> the header divider needs to be a bit more visible in the dark theme
[13:09] <Mirv> alecu: so the silo changes DBus behavior, and it appears the account probably gets removed when a DBus request fails in some way
[13:10] <Elleo> nik90: yeah, I guess; I'm not espeically fussed about it being a bit faint, as users are familiar with the idea of the header and there's enough cues there to show that it is a header
[13:10] <nik90> Elleo: btw are you creating the click at the moment? We got 100% translations for russian this morning, you will need to import the translations and merge them to trunk manually before uploading click to store.
[13:10] <Elleo> nik90: yeah, I'm going to do a manual import
[13:10] <Elleo> nik90: won't be doing the release until after work though
[13:10] <nik90> ok
[13:11] <nik90> Elleo: regarding the screenshots, its your call. Its just a smart part of the app screenshot which does make it look really modern
[13:11] <Mirv> alecu: maybe it could be more fault tolerant, but of course it's the silo's fault most likely unless the accound handling made wrong assumptions on previous Qt behavior
[13:12] <alecu> Mirv: yes: " it appears the account probably gets removed when a DBus request fails in some way" sounds very likely.
[13:14] <Elleo> nik90: yeah, and I like the fact that it means the "Add New Podcast" page gets its full title, which gets truncated with the old header
[13:14] <Elleo> nik90: but I'm kind of on the fence
[13:25] <tsdgeos> Mirv: so with silo18 the ubuntuone account is randomly lost on reboots but not without silo18?
[13:26] <alecu> Mirv: I'm talking to marcustomlinson, that worked on the integration of the scope frameworks with online accounts, and he tells me that the scopes are using a library provided by online accounts. And that it's likely that this library is using dbus to call online accounts itself
[13:27] <Mirv> tsdgeos: yes
[13:27] <tsdgeos> Mirv: weird
[13:27] <tsdgeos> :D
[13:27] <alecu> mardy: do you know if the online accounts library uses qtdbus to talk to online accounts proper?
[13:28] <Mirv> alecu: thanks, that's another useful piece to know in this puzzle!
[13:28] <alecu> Mirv: is the account lost on reboots or on installation?
[13:29] <mardy> alecu: libsignon-qt (and the QML bindings do), but the account part it an in-process SQLite DB
[13:29] <marcustomlinson> mardy, alecu: it may be an issue in QDBus used from OnlineAccountsClient::Setup() that we use in the shell: http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~online-accounts/ubuntu-system-settings-online-accounts/trunk/view/head:/client/OnlineAccountsClient/setup.cpp
[13:30] <Mirv> tsdgeos: of course OA could be made more fault tolerant, but it's likely QDBus is simply still broken even though all our other issues with the patch set are gone
[13:32] <Mirv> alecu: on a reboot, but not always. also, the first click of Install on the app after upgrading to the silo removes the account, but not if upgrade is done first and then account is added - app installations then work for the duration of that boot
[13:33] <alecu> "for the duration of that boot" is what makes no sense to me! :-(
[13:35] <Mirv> yeah, it feels weird, but it certainly looks like that. so it's probably that some multi-threaded dbus usage during boot creates the problem, even though at times the removal only happens after that boot, when Install is clicked
[13:36] <alecu> right
[13:40] <popey> ooh! http://people.canonical.com/~alan/screenshots/device-2015-04-23-143817.png
[13:41] <ogra_> popey, you're kidding !
[13:41] <popey> wat?
[13:41] <popey> I only just noticed :)
[13:41] <Silex> popey: thank you! I often pested that it lacked this
[13:41] <robin-hero> popey: Is it in vivid? :)
[13:42] <popey> thats my up to date vivid phone
[13:42] <robin-hero> I think I need to buy another phone just fot testing :D
[13:42] <Silex> damnit, it's not there on the BQ 4.5 yet
[13:42] <popey> yes, please buy more phones for "testing" or whatever
[13:42] <ogra_> soooon
[13:43] <Silex> ah wait, maybe it only works with the Media PLayer app
[13:43] <popey> ya
[13:43] * Silex tests again
[13:43] <popey> doesn't work with music
[13:43] <Silex> :(
[13:44] <robin-hero> popey: I got one for everyday use :) just I another one for testing :D
[13:44] * Silex curses at media player
[13:44] <Silex> how does one simply select music to play in it?
[13:44] * Silex tries file manager
[13:45] <Se7> still not downloading update after many reboot any idea? :(
[13:46] * Silex curses at Media Player not being able to open mp3 files
[13:46] <Silex> c'mon
[13:50] <mcphail> Hmm - my network status indicator has gone completely and the tab in the indicator bar has been replaced by a cogwheel icon labelled "indicator-network"
[13:51] <jgdx> pete-woods, ^^
[13:52] <jgdx> mcphail, anything new in your /var/crash folder?
[13:53] <nik90> popey, ogra_ : it doesnt seem to work with media-player as well during my testing..perhaps more fixes are in the pipeline
[13:53] <popey> ya
[13:54] <mcphail> jgdx: lots of things :) Nothing from today, though
[13:55] <pete-woods> mcphail: anything interesting in ~/.cache/upstart/indicator-network.log* ?
[13:57] <mcphail> pete-woods: one sec. trying to read/access through terminal app :)
[14:15] <Se7> sorry i don t know what s up my child put and on keyboards
[14:25] <mcphail> pete-woods: quite a bit of "terminate called after throwing an instance of 'std::out_of_range'" (sorry for delay in replying - internet issues)
[14:25] <pete-woods> mcphail: are you on RTM or vivid?
[14:26] <mcphail> pete-woods: rtm
[14:26] <pete-woods> mcphail: sounds like we need to push the same fix out to RTM as we have in vivid then
[14:26] <pete-woods> not that I think there's another rtm image coming along
[14:27] <mcphail> pete-woods: i suppose the fix _will_be_ vivid :)
[14:27] <mcphail> pete-woods: do you need more info or shall I just reboot?
[14:30] <pete-woods> mcphail: if you can find an indicator-network crash file that would be useful
[14:30] <pete-woods> just so I can confirm it's the same crash
[14:30] <pete-woods> it doesn't matter if it's not from today
[14:48] <mcphail> pete-woods: sorry - got cut off again. Do you want an email with a crash file from the 17th?
[14:50] <pete-woods> mcphail: that sounds good to me
[14:50] <pete-woods> mcphail: [email protected]
[14:53] <OerHeks> pete-woods, please can i pm you?
[14:53] <pete-woods> OerHeks: sure
[15:08] <march> Hi :) Where can I report incomplete translations concerning uubuntu touch? Openening a bugreport on launchpad seems to be the wrong place.
[15:13] <jgdx> march, it's the right place, but it's best if you file it against the package/project in question. Where is the incomplete translation?
[15:25] <march> jgdx, If you choose your favorite contacts a new screen appears displaying the name of the person and some buttons.
[15:26] <march> On my phone it is a mixture of german and english. Should be german only
[15:30] <jgdx> march, okay, could you file against https://bugs.launchpad.net/address-book-app/+filebug ?
[15:43] * mcphail has just realised the podbird icon is an owl.
[15:44] <nik90> mcphail: not for long
[15:44] <mcphail> nik90: I'd thought it was a close-up of a monkey's face...
[15:46] <mcphail> The belly feathers were teeth...
[15:46] * mcphail does not have the best eyesight
[15:46] <Elleo> heh
[15:46] <nik90> lol
[16:04] <alecu> Mirv: after further manual testing, I found that logging into U1 from system settings is unreliable as logging from the scope.
[16:05] <alecu> I tap and tap on the "Ubuntu One" entry in system settings and still can't login
[16:05] <alecu> well, after a few taps it worked
[16:05] <alecu> but still, seems to be as broken
[16:06] <Mirv> alecu: if you see #ubuntu-ci-eng, we now added mardy's https://code.launchpad.net/~mardy/ubuntu-system-settings-online-accounts/lp1421009/+merge/257267 which seems to help the boot up account disappearance at least (it now always survives boot but disappears when app is tried to be installed, although not every time), but we'd need something similar to some other potentially racy place
[16:06] <Mirv> alecu: so if you apt update + upgrade you'd get that mardy's u-s-s-o-a update from the same PPA
[16:06] <alecu> ah, great.
[16:06] <Mirv> alecu: do you know anything about that what happens / what's called when Install is pressed in the store, where something similar could be applied?
[16:06] <Mirv> sil2100: ^
[16:07] <alecu> Mirv: I suspect unity-scopes-shell, will check with people on my team
[16:08] <alecu> pstolowski: pete-woods: is that right? ^
[16:08] <Mirv> alecu: awesome!
[16:12] <pstolowski> mc
[16:12] <march> I'll do that jgdx
[16:14] <alecu> Mirv: actually, unity-scopes-shell is using libonline-accounts-client1, which is built from ubuntu-system-settings-online-accounts too
[16:14] <pstolowski> alecu, Mirv afaict after some grepping in unity-scopes-shell, it depends on libonline-accounts-client1-dev (ubuntu-system-settings-online-accounts) and doesn't do anything like in that diff directly
[16:14] <pstolowski> alecu, ah, at the same time ;)
[16:14] <sil2100> hmmm
[16:15] <alecu> pstolowski: right, so I would suspect mardy's patch ought to fix that too
[16:15] <pstolowski> yeah
[16:18] <sil2100> pstolowski, alecu, Mirv: that's not good then, I'm in overall worried that the raciness can cause accounts to go missing
[16:18] <alecu> sil2100: I wonder what happens with accounts other than the U1 account as used in the click scope.
[16:19] <alecu> I've been trying to install some other scope that uses online accounts, but been hitting the bug.
[16:19] <alecu> (other scopes that use online accounts are, eg: vimeo, soundcloud, instagram scopes)
[16:22] <sil2100> I'm upgrading to vivid as well
[16:36] <taiebot> nik90: podbird does not start on my mako 15.04 devel-proposed r183
[16:36] <popey> taiebot: known
[16:36] <popey> fixed in trunk i believe
[16:37] <taiebot> popey and the music stalling as well? on r183
[16:38] <Elleo> taiebot: yeah, there's a bug in the UITK, but we've got a workaround for it in 0.6 which we'll be releasing very soon
[16:38] <taiebot> elleo: is it for podbird or music app?
[16:38] <Elleo> taiebot: podbird, no idea about the music app side of things
[16:47] <Dragonkeeper> if someone calls and you swipe the call notification away the phone vibrates and there is no way to answer it , opening the phone app lets you call but doesnt say theres a imcoming call still, vibrating goes away when the other person hangs up
[16:54] <nik90> taiebot: music app opens fine for me on r183 though
[16:54] <taiebot> It does open but try to play two songs.
[16:55] <nik90> taiebot: I quickly seeked through 3-4 songs and it continues playing..what do you observe on your end?
[16:56] <taiebot> nik90: was walking back home with headphones and after finishing the song. when starting the next one it starts to stutter and finally stops.
[16:58] <nik90> taiebot: ah ok...I will play an entire playlist and see if I can reproduce it
[16:59] <taiebot> nik90 just starting an album here to see if i can always reproduce..
[17:03] <taiebot> nik90 its pretty weird i am not playing the music it is supposed to play=-O
[17:03] <nik90> eh
[17:03] <taiebot> It says Jessie J Domino on the now playing while he plays some spanish guitar music.
[17:05] <nik90> ok there's something really weird going on then
[18:52] <isleofmandan> Can anyone point me to a guide for upgrading my phone to 15.04 ?
[18:57] <ogra_> isleofmandan, are you ready for instabilities and bugs ? ... you can switch the channel to devel-proposed with th system-image-cli command ... but i would wait til 15.04 is ready
[18:58] <ogra_> (there is a --switch option for system-image-cli)
[18:58] <ogra_> (see --help)
[18:59] <davmor2> ogra_: you don't need to minuses and you are missing a k, it's "But seek help"
[18:59] <ogra_> lol
[19:00] <isleofmandan> Thanks. I thought 15.04 was already released. My laptop is currently upgrading and I thought phone and desktop were same codebase?
[19:00] <davmor2> isleofmandan: not yet we are getting there
[19:00] <ogra_> phone is rolling and gets special QA treatment
[19:01] <ogra_> the normal phone OTA mchanism will just switch you over automatically, you wont notice :)
[19:01] <isleofmandan> So it will just do it by magic when it's ready
[19:01] <ogra_> yeah :
[19:01] <isleofmandan> cool. Thanms
[19:01] <ogra_> :)
[19:01] <isleofmandan> thanks
[19:01] <ogra_> in about 4-6 weeks i'd say ... will still take a while
[19:02] <isleofmandan> I can't type on it. :p
[19:03] <isleofmandan> OK thanks. We have a local release party on Saturday and some folks wanted me to show my phone. First question I'll get is why is it only on 14.10 :)
[19:04] <davmor2> isleofmandan: it isn't, it's on 14.09 rtm which is another thing all together
[19:06] <isleofmandan> so confusing. It says 14.10 on the screen. :)
[19:09] <davmor2> isleofmandan: that's just to confuse people ;)
[19:12] <isleofmandan> anyway, thanks for the help. I'll get back to nursing laptop through its uograde from 14.10... /boot appears to be too full but I have seen that issue before so know what to do. It's the phone stuff that is all new and weird to me!
[19:12] <isleofmandan> have a good evening
[19:22] <d3z_> I could use a little help in understanding the difference between scopes and apps on Ubuntu Phone. As I understand it, a scope is something like a group or category of information, where that scope can take in data from an assortment of sources. an app is a single program, which just does it's own thing. is that a correct assessment?
[19:23] <ogra_> yeah
[19:24] <cwayne> d3z_, that's a pretty good top-level view yep :)
[19:24] <cwayne> d3z_, the main focus of scopes is content rather than functionality
[19:25] <d3z_> cool, thanks cwayne and ogra_
[19:25] <d3z_> I'm considering making a small app (i assume that's the correct approach here) which will make some requests to a web service and display data in a basic list. I'll also need to save some basic user preferences. given the minimal requirements, it seems like a good fit to do in html5 rather than qml. is that reasonable?
[19:26] <cwayne> what kind of data?
[19:27] <d3z_> for now it's just an excuse to try things out, but it'll tasks (as in todo list entries)
[19:28] <d3z_> I imagine a user being able to set a few preferences in the app, but otherwise it's just requesting data via https and showing that data as text on a list
[19:47] <taiebot> \o/ podbird update :)
[19:51] <dobey> d3z_: an html5 app would be fine for that. it would fit into the realm of scopes as well, if it's just displaying data and not really entering any.
[20:54] <mariogrip> Updating my desktop to vivid now! \o/
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[03:03] <duflu> racarr: Still around?
[03:17] <racarr> duflu: Si
[03:17] <racarr> whats up?
[03:17] <duflu> racarr: Heh, you shouldn't be still around :) ... I'm about to revert r2505 to fix tests crashing unless you can fix it directly?...
[03:18] <racarr> duflu: Go for it...I am playing Go -.-
[03:18] <duflu> racarr: Kay
[03:18] <racarr> Sorry :(
[03:19] <duflu> racarr: It's OK. You should be offline by now :)
[12:39] <sgx1> it seems that the wiki page https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Mir/Spec is outdated. what are the current gaps for mir? any roadmap?
[13:06] <tvoss> sgx1, good point, taking an action to update it
[13:07] <tvoss> sgx1, in the meantime, what are you specifically interested in?
[13:11] <sgx1> window management, input method, security stuff and the current status of toolkit(qt, gtk, etc) support.
[19:34] <gQuigs> trying to parse this bug (https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=694570) , current suggestion would be to add a dependency to libsm/libice, is there a better way to do this going forward?
[19:34] <gQuigs> or is desktop environment specific dbus sessions the answer?
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"authors": [
"duflu",
"gQuigs",
"racarr",
"sgx1",
"tvoss"
],
"url": "https://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2015/04/23/%23ubuntu-mir.txt",
"channel": "#ubuntu-mir"
}
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2015-04-23-#ubuntu-ko
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[00:39] <AutoWiZ_znc> 김치찌게 먹고 잤더니 아침에 온몸이 통통하게 부어 있네요 ㅋㅋㅋ
[00:39] <AutoWiZ_znc> 얼굴 터지는줄 ㅋㅋ
[00:40] <AutoWiZ_znc> 소주랑 막걸리랑 뻔대기도 같이 음... 이쯤되면 뭐때문인지는 모르는건가요?
[00:42] <Work^Seony> ㅎㅎㅎ
[00:42] <Work^Seony> 원래 나트륨 섭취하고 자면 살이 붓잖아요
[00:44] <AutoWiZ_znc> 어제 야식이 저 위에 것들이고 저녁은 소 + 돼지 + 된장 + 소금
[01:08] <AutoWiZ_znc> 아 저녁에도 소주 ㅋ
[01:30] <PotatoGim> 안녕하세요~
[01:30] <Work^Seony> 안녕하세요
[01:31] <PotatoGim> 앗, 써니님 낙찰...
[01:31] <PotatoGim> 문장 하나만 도와주시어요..ㅜ
[01:31] <PotatoGim> Only a single extent tree can allocate extents out of a given chunk.
[01:31] <PotatoGim> 요 녀석인데...
[01:31] <PotatoGim> out of a given chunk가 해당 청크 바깥이라고 봐야할까요?
[01:32] <Work^Seony> 음...
[01:32] <AutoWiZ_znc> 그렇지 않을까 생각됩니다만.
[01:32] <AutoWiZ_znc> 할당받은? given ?
[01:32] <Work^Seony> 주어진 단위 외부 라고 생각할 수도 있고, 주어진 단위를 넘어선 부분이라고 생각할 수도 있겠네요
[01:33] <Work^Seony> 결국 공통적인 부분은, 주어진 청크 외의 것이라고 볼 수 있겠군요
[01:33] <PotatoGim> 음.. 단일 익스텐트 트리만이 주어진 청크 외의 익스텐트들을 할당할 수 있다?
[01:34] <AutoWiZ_znc> 저는 1개 라고 해석될거 같은 느낌인데요 ...
[01:34] <AutoWiZ_znc> 앞뒤 문장을 봐야 할거 같습니다만.
[01:35] <PotatoGim> There are back references from the chunk items to the extent tree that allocated them. Only a single extent tree can allocate extents out of a given chunk.
[01:35] <PotatoGim> 이게 문단의 전체인데..
[01:35] <AutoWiZ_znc> out of a given chunk 에다가 extents allocate 할 수 있는건 single (온리 one ) extents tree 이다 ?
[01:36] <Work^Seony> 두 분 다 의미는 비슷한 거 같은데요 ㅎㅎ
[01:36] <Work^Seony> 의역이냐 직역이냐의 차이 정도?
[01:37] <Work^Seony> 역시 의역이 어렵죠. 번역 아무나 하는게 아닌거 같아요
[01:37] <AutoWiZ_znc> single extent tree 를 하나의 단어? 주어? 로 봐야 할거 같은 느낌입니다. ( 제 의역은 잘못된거 같습니다 )
[01:37] <PotatoGim> 청크 아이템들로부터 그들을 할당했던 익스텐트로의 익스텐트 트리로 향하는 역참조가 있다. 단일 익스텐트 트리만이 해당 청크 외부에 익스텐트들을 할당할 수 있다?
[01:37] <Work^Seony> 느낌이 아니라, 하나의 주어 맞아요
[01:37] <AutoWiZ_znc> 저는 동시에 하나만 extent 할 수 있다는 의미로 이해할려고 했는데 그게 아닌거 같아요
[01:37] <PotatoGim> 뒷 부분이 생뚱 맞다보니..
[01:38] <PotatoGim> 저는 only a single 이 부분을 그냥 단일이라고 표현한 거 뿐이죠 ㅎㅎ
[01:38] <AutoWiZ_znc> a 가 저기 있을때는
[01:38] <Work^Seony> Only a single extent tree <= 요게 주어
[01:38] <PotatoGim> out of가 방향을 나타낸다고 보면 될까요?
[01:38] <AutoWiZ_znc> only single 이랑 달라지니까 .
[01:39] <Work^Seony> 방향도 맞을 거 같고, 어떤 공간을 벗어난 것으로 보셔도 될 거 같아요
[01:40] <PotatoGim> 그렇군요. 감사합니다! 요새 너무 자주 요런 녀석으로 귀찮게 해드려 죄송합니다..ㅜ;
[01:41] <AutoWiZ_znc> 글 쓰신분 만나뵙고 인터뷰 한번 해보고 싶네요 ㅋㅋ
[01:41] <PotatoGim> ㅋㅋ 당신은 대체 무슨 의도로 말한겁니까? 하고..
[01:41] <AutoWiZ_znc> 단어 하나 하나 때문에 전체 문장의 의미가 달리 지는거 같은 ..
[01:42] <Work^Seony> 그래서, 미국 대학에서 교과서로 쓰이는 교재들을 보면 문장이 아주 쉽게 쓰여있죠
[01:42] <Work^Seony> 첨엔 잘 모르는데요, 학교를 다니다보면 알아요. 정말 쉽게 쓰여진 책이구나 라고...
[01:42] <Work^Seony> 그리고 대부분의 기술서적들은 아주 쉬운 영어로 쓰여져있어요
[01:42] <Work^Seony> 읽는데 큰 무리가 없죠...
[01:43] <Work^Seony> 근데 인터넷 상으로 나오는 매뉴얼 같은 것들은, 개발자가 걍 바로 쓰는 문서다보니...
[01:43] <Work^Seony> 책을 써본 "저자" 수준의 필력이랑 다른거 같아요
[01:43] <PotatoGim> 더군다나 위키 문서에 정제가 안되서 그런지 같은 내용이 다른 쪽에서도 돌아댕기고 그러더라구요..ㅜ
[01:44] <AutoWiZ_znc> 저는 제자신이 답답한게 single extent tree 라는게 어떤 특성을 가지고 있는지 모르니까
[01:44] <AutoWiZ_znc> single , extent tree 인지 'single extent tree' 인지 ㅠㅠ
[01:46] <AutoWiZ_znc> url 을 주시어요 ^__^
[01:47] <AutoWiZ_znc> 파일을 주셔도 되고
[01:55] <PotatoGim> https://btrfs.wiki.kernel.org/index.php/Btrees
[01:56] <PotatoGim> 요 녀석입니다 ㅎㅎ Chunk Tree 섹션의 2문단에 해당 내용이 있구요~
[01:56] <PotatoGim> 청크 트리가 논리 주소에서 실제 디스크의 물리적 주소로 사상을 시켜주는 정보를 저장합니다.
[02:02] <PotatoGim> 내부는 B트리고, 디바이스 아이템과 청크 아이템을 저장하는데 익스텐트들은 청크 내에서 할당되구요.
[02:03] <Work^Seony> 국회의원 연금법 통과됐다네요
[02:03] <Work^Seony> 인제 국민들이 내는 세금으로 의원들 연금 죽을 때까지 120만원씩!
[02:04] <Work^Seony> 나도 구케우원 함 해볼까
[02:04] <PotatoGim> ㅋㅋㅋ 국K-1
[02:04] <PotatoGim> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vTDLRm1iXek
[02:05] <PotatoGim> 이 정도는 해야 어디가서 나도 국K-1
[02:05] <PotatoGim> 저는 포기..ㅜ
[02:05] <Work^Seony> ㅋㅋ
[02:05] <Work^Seony> 저는 야동 검색 잘합니다
[02:05] <Work^Seony> 그 정도면 되나요?
[02:06] <PotatoGim> 오.. 공성전 준비를 위한 사기증진이 가능한 서포터시네요..
[02:06] <PotatoGim> 저는 그런거 없어서 얄짤...ㅜ
[02:06] <PotatoGim> 아, 숨겨놓은 하드를 풀면....
[02:06] <Work^Seony> ㅎㅎㅎ
[02:06] <Work^Seony> 근데, 하드디스크는 진짜 영구적인 저장장치 맞아요?
[02:06] <Work^Seony> 얼마 전에, 씨디가 반영구도 못된다는 얘기에 충격먹어서...
[02:07] <Work^Seony> 그동안 모은 음악씨디가 수백만원어치인데...
[02:07] <PotatoGim> 씨디는 수명이 생각보다 많이 짧죠.. 저도 그거 알고 나서는 안쓰기 시작했어요 ㅎ
[02:07] <PotatoGim> 하드는 쓰지 않고 잘 보관하다는 전제 하에서는 영구적이라고 봐도 되지 않을까요?
[02:08] <Work^Seony> 그렇군요...
[02:08] <Work^Seony> 아 진짜 자료 넣어놓고 봉인해둬야하는 "저장용 하드디스크"를 따로 써야하는 세상이 온건가요...
[02:17] <AutoWiZ_znc> 50년이었던거 같아요 시디수명이
[02:17] <AutoWiZ_znc> 집에서 구운 시디는 좀 짧은데다가 스크레치에도 약하고 특히 위쪽 반사판이 잘 벗겨지기 때문에
[02:18] <ujuc> 뭐.. 영구적이든 반영구적이든... 컨택터나 열었을때 확인할 수 있는 프로그램이없다면....
[02:19] <AutoWiZ_znc> ㅋㅋ 저 초등학교때 열심히 자료도 모으고 했던 5.25" 플로피 디스크는 제 5.25" 드라이브가 망가지면서 ㅋ
[02:19] <AutoWiZ_znc> 이럴수도 저럴수도 없는 상황이 ㅋㅋ
[02:19] <ujuc> ㅎㅎㅎㅎㅎ
[02:47] <DarkCircle> 그린, 블루 <<-- 이런녀석들은 10년쯤 지난놈이라면 이미 구멍이 숭숭 뚫리고 있죠. (...) 골드 정도는 돼야 보존이 되려나 ...
[02:49] <AutoWiZ_znc> 아 그러고 보니 시디로만 구워서 가지고 있던 자료가 몇개 있었는데
[02:49] <AutoWiZ_znc> 하드로 옮겨야 겠습니다. ㅠㅠ
[02:50] <DarkCircle> 하드도 주기적으로 몇번 돌려주고 그래야지 안그러면 인식 안(?)하는 수가 있어요
[02:51] <AutoWiZ_znc> 허업 ..
[02:51] <AutoWiZ_znc> 무서운 세상이군요 ㅠㅠ
[02:52] <DarkCircle> 요새 하드 도크 좋은놈 많으니까 그걸 사두셔도 괜츈 (...)
[03:10] <jason_kr_> HDD 보다 자석테이프의 기록 보존기간이 더 길어요.
[03:22] <AutoWiZ_znc> 그치만 DAT 드라이브는 가격이 ㅎ
[03:27] <jason_kr_> 아~ ㅋ
[03:28] <HolyKnight> 제이슨찡 ㅎㅇ
[03:32] <HolyKnight> http://www.parkoz.com/zboard/view.php?id=express_freeboard2&page=1&sn1=&divpage=230&sn=off&ss=on&sc=off&select_arrange=headnum&desc=asc&no=346591
[03:52] <jason_kr_> ㅎㅎㅎ 할 말 없음.
[03:52] <jason_kr_> 윽! 참. 할 일이 생각났다요. 윽
[07:21] <autowiz_web> 서니님 계세요?
[07:25] <ircCloud^Seony> 네
[07:25] <ircCloud^Seony> 왠지 모르겠는데 집 인터넷이 끊기네요
[07:26] <ircCloud^Seony> autowiz_web: 이 닉으로 호출해주시면 되요
[07:28] <autowiz_web> 리눅스 HA 구성 할려면 어떤 소프트웨어나 리눅스 기능으로 할 수 있을까요?
[07:28] <ircCloud^Seony> haproxy 같은거요?
[07:29] <autowiz_web> active stand-by 상태에서 a 서버 죽으면 b 서버로 넘기는 거 할려고 하거든요
[07:30] <ircCloud^Seony> 웹이라면 엔진엑스 같은걸로 쉽게 할 수 있는데요,
[07:30] <ircCloud^Seony> 어떤 서비스를 ha 하실 거에요?
[07:47] <autowiz_web> db 생각중입니다
[07:47] <autowiz_web> 외부 스토리지 를 서버 두대중 한대만 액티브로 붙을 수 있는지 궁금합니다.
[07:48] <ircCloud^Seony> 음... 제가 알기로 mysql에서 ha 옵션은 엔터프라이즈 버전만 되는 걸로 알고있어요
[07:49] <ircCloud^Seony> 그럼 마리아디비를 쓰셔도 괜찮으시면...
[07:49] <ircCloud^Seony> 갈레라 세팅하시면 될 듯 싶은데요...
[08:05] <autowiz_web> 네 감사합니다. ^^
[09:33] <bluedusk> 갈레라 갈레라
[09:33] <bluedusk> 리눅스 ha 구성하실려면 pacemaker 도 괜ㅊ츰할껄요?
[09:34] <bluedusk> http://clusterlabs.org/wiki/Main_Page
[13:02] <razgon_MBP> 아마존은 한국으로 직배송 가능한가요?
[13:02] <razgon_MBP> 53 pencil주문했는데요.
[15:37] <samahui_WS> 아마존 직배송되는것으로 알고 있습니다
[15:46] <PotatoGim^Home> 안녕하세요~~ 오늘도 달리러 왔습니다..
[18:09] <AutoWiZ_znc> 안녕하세요~
[18:09] <AutoWiZ_znc> 오늘도 달리고 있습니다. ㅋㅋ
[18:42] <Work^Seony> 안녕하세요
[18:43] <AutoWiZ_znc> 안녕하세요
[18:44] <Work^Seony> 아침 일찍부터 일하시는군요
[18:45] <AutoWiZ_znc> 네 오늘도 일정이 빡빡해서요 ㅋㅋ
[18:53] <Work^Seony> 헐.... 그렇군요...
[18:53] <Work^Seony> 그래도 아직 새벽 4시인데..
[19:04] <AutoWiZ_znc> 그러게요 저도 좀 쉬어야 하는데
[22:17] <HolyKnight> ㅎㅇ
[23:23] <Work^Seony> 안녕하세요
[23:28] <HolyKnight> 오 서니찡
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2015-04-23-#ubuntu-release
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[00:52] <zul> can someone unbock nova-compute-lxd please it fixes container networking with 0.7?
[07:08] <Fr3llD> no release party here?
[07:08] <wxl> Fr3llD: #ubuntu+1 and it's not ready yet :)
[07:10] <Fr3llD> so.. i ddg a bit but i can't find any release _time_
[07:10] <wxl> Fr3llD: yeah, it's more that it happens when it happens
[07:10] <Fr3llD> im a newbie ubuntu, but im quite a fan in just a few months..
[07:10] <wxl> yay! time to become a contributor :)
[07:10] <Fr3llD> it not related to a time zone or something?
[07:11] <wxl> kind of but no
[07:11] <wxl> we have a reolving membership of release team members around the world
[07:11] <wxl> so the release date can change somewhat
[07:11] <Fr3llD> im about to make my first contribution on github.. till now i just contributed in buying t-shirts.. ;-)
[07:11] <infinity> slangasek: livecd-rootfs isn't on images, so as long as you're 200% positive your changes don't affect other people, it's safe to let it in.
[07:11] <wxl> heheheh
[07:12] <wxl> i didn't mean monetary contributions but helping!
[07:12] <infinity> slangasek: And, indeed, looks entirely safe, letting it in.
[07:13] <Fr3llD> @wxl, i know.. but im not a programmer or coder, just a user and thats hard after 20 years of M$
[07:13] <wxl> Fr3llD: perfect opportunity to help other newbies, write documentation, or just demonstrate ubutnu to the rest of the world
[07:15] <wxl> Fr3llD: there's also things like reporting and confirming bugs
[07:15] <wxl> Fr3llD: there's a way for EVERYONE to contribute
[07:16] <wxl> Fr3llD: needless to say i see the uk contingent is active here, so we will see release today! :)
[07:16] <Fr3llD> u r right, but i found out that there is a great communiity that already did a lot, all the help i needed was easy to find on askubuntu!
[07:16] <wxl> Fr3llD: yep and it was there because people contributed. there's always more to do!
[07:18] <Fr3llD> im going to.. i was about to make my first bugreport on github, so thats my first start.. but i want to make a good effort to report a bug properly and give some troubleshoot hints with it.
[07:19] <wxl> Fr3llD: feel free to ping me if you need help on it. i can help you tie that assumedly upstream bug report to a downstream report on ubuntu. sounds like you might make a good bug triager :)
[07:21] <wxl> on that note i'm going to go to sleep!
[07:21] <Fr3llD> whats a bug triager?
[07:21] <Fr3llD> nevermind, goto sleep!
[07:22] <wxl> Fr3llD: here's your homework https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Bugs/Triage
[07:22] * wxl disappears
[07:38] <jamespage> infinity, I've verified that zul's nova-compute-lxd upload for bug 1447128 resolved the networking issue described - please could it be accepted?
[08:02] <infinity> jamespage: Yup.
[08:19] <Riddell> are we nearly there yet?
[08:31] <infinity> Riddell: Things are looking good. Need to do publishing and release notes dances and the like, but things look on track.
[08:40] <Fr3llD> nice
[08:40] <Fr3llD> this is really kewl btw, im new to ubuntu but its really kewl to see this up close.. *ill be quiet now*
[09:35] <flexiondotorg> infinity, Do you have a rough ETA for release?
[09:36] <infinity> flexiondotorg: Aiming for mid-afternoon London time, ish.
[09:36] <flexiondotorg> infinity, Great!
[09:38] <Riddell> just in time for a cup of tea
[11:09] <Odd_Bloke> infinity: Cloud images are ready to go.
[11:14] <infinity> Odd_Bloke: Ta.
[11:56] <maclin> infinity: hi, the ubuntu kylin is still on the state: re-building, there must be some problem, could you help to confrim that ?
[12:24] <infinity> maclin: It's built.
[12:25] <infinity> maclin: It took a while longer than normal, for some odd reason.
[12:31] <flexiondotorg> infinity, How you holding up? :)
[12:32] <ogra_> are we there yet ?
[12:32] <ogra_> :P
[12:32] <maclin> infinity: yep, we are syncing the image now, thanks a lot :)
[12:34] <Fr3llD> nice! release party? ;-)
[12:35] <ogra_> Fr3llD, yeah, in #ubuntu-release-party :)
[13:42] <Riddell> ... silence...
[13:43] <Odd_Bloke> ... a clock ticks sonorously in the background ...
[13:59] <mdeslaur> infinity: can I publish stuff to vivid-security now, or do I need to wait some more?
[14:02] <infinity> mdeslaur: You can.
[14:02] <mdeslaur> infinity: cool, thanks
[14:04] <infinity> Riddell: Couple of small speed bumps, working it all out now.
[14:04] <infinity> (And anyone else complaining about ticking clocks)
[14:50] <utlemming> infinity: ready for Cloud Images to go public?
[14:55] <slangasek> infinity: hi - what are "1.0 bits" you refer to in mail?
[14:55] <slangasek> is that ubuntu-core-launcher?
[14:55] <slangasek> it certainly seems we do want that
[14:56] <infinity> slangasek: ubuntu-core-launcher and ubuntu-snappy
[14:57] <infinity> utlemming: It's not world-ending if you push yours before I push here, I'm still sorting out the last snappy bits.
[14:57] <slangasek> ok
[14:57] <slangasek> infinity: so I'm withdrawing the previously-generated images, we'll have new ones soon
[14:58] <infinity> slangasek: Also, I gave you the wrong filenames for your images. Derp. Subarches should be arch+subarch, not arch-subarch. I published to the + location and symlinked so the links in the docs still work.
[14:58] <slangasek> yeah, noticed that
[14:59] <infinity> slangasek: Oh look, more stuff in the queue. Do you need those too? :/
[14:59] <slangasek> infinity: not that I've been told
[14:59] <Odd_Bloke> infinity: We're pulling the cloud triggers now.
[15:00] <infinity> slangasek: Can you sort that out and let me know ASAP? We can squeeze them in before the archive closes if they're absolutely needed, but time's basically run out.
[15:03] <slangasek> infinity: working on it
[15:09] <slangasek> infinity: ubuntu-core-config should go in
[15:10] <slangasek> infinity: and ubuntu-core-launcher also
[15:11] <infinity> slangasek: core-launcher was in ages ago.
[15:11] <slangasek> infinity: sorry, I meant ubuntu-snappy
[15:11] <infinity> slangasek: What was in the queue was ubuntu-core-config (accepted now), and ubuntu-snappy.
[15:12] <infinity> slangasek: Okay, both accepted. Will babysit them through.
[15:12] <infinity> slangasek: And I plan to close the archive after this unless someone screams Very Loudly.
[15:12] <slangasek> infinity: ok, sounds good from my side
[15:14] <Odd_Bloke> infinity: Is 2016-01-30 the correct EOL date for vivid?
[15:15] <infinity> Odd_Bloke: I haven't set one, but distro-info-data claims 2016-01-23, which is exactly 9mo.
[15:15] <infinity> Odd_Bloke: And "exactly 9mo" is the right thing to advertise, since if we can always extend, but we won't make it shorter.
[15:16] <slangasek> infinity: and at the end, the decision is that the prebuilt images we'll ship for the stable channel are the ones I already gave you from last night, with everything else picked up via the channel update
[15:17] <slangasek> infinity: so snappy shouldn't be a blocker for image publication now
[15:17] <infinity> slangasek: \o/
[15:18] <infinity> slangasek: Well, now that I've accepted and unblocked this stuff, I'll let it all migrate before I close the archive, but I can send out the ISO announcement nowish.
[15:18] <infinity> slangasek: If you want to replace those images with ones built from the final state of the release pocket, do let me know later. We can do that.
[15:20] * slangasek nods
[15:23] <ogra_> infinity, hey, where is the announce in #ubuntu-release-party !
[15:24] <bdmurray> infinity: shall I make the meta-release changes?
[15:35] <U1510nameseeker> Congratulations! What's the name for Ubuntu WW?
[15:36] <infinity> U1510nameseeker: A mystery.
[15:36] <ogra_> we'Re waiting for it too :)
[15:36] <U1510nameseeker> Oh?
[15:36] <U1510nameseeker> How is it decided? How will we find out?
[15:36] <ogra_> would be funny to call it warty warthog :)
[15:37] <infinity> ogra_: Wartier.
[15:37] <U1510nameseeker> Why would that be funny?
[15:37] <ogra_> finishing a loop
[15:37] <ogra_> haha, yeah
[15:37] <ogra_> U1510nameseeker, mark decides the names and he will blog once he made that decision ... watch planet.ubuntu.com, it will show up there
[15:39] <U1510nameseeker> So does this mean all development is frozen because it's impossible to push any new things because the name is unknown?
[15:39] <U1510nameseeker> Mark?
[15:39] <ogra_> shuttleworth
[15:39] <U1510nameseeker> Who's that?
[15:39] <ogra_> try google :)
[15:39] <U1510nameseeker> I can't, I'm in Google right now
[15:40] <elfy> infinity cyphermox - thanks for your help during this cycle
[15:40] <U1510nameseeker> A search will disconnect me
[15:40] <cyphermox> elfy: no worries. I didn't do that much :)
[15:40] <elfy> well - saying - ooh nasty, I'll look - meant a lot to me :D
[15:44] <cjwatson> U1510nameseeker: development's hardly frozen, lots happens in branches anyway until it's ready to land, and in practice people usually take a bit of a break after release
[15:44] <cjwatson> U1510nameseeker: it's not ideal to be stuck without a name, but it's not a disaster as long as it doesn't go on too long
[15:46] <U1510nameseeker> What would happen if this mark guy got hit by a bus now?
[15:46] <davmor2> infinity: should there be an update on ubuntu.com ? currently it still seems to say download 14.10
[15:46] <ogra_> we might all be jobless then ...
[15:47] <cjwatson> U1510nameseeker: then we'd come up with a different procedure; I'm reasonably sure that (a) there are contingency plans in place (b) the release name is just about the least of the concerns
[15:48] <U1510nameseeker> Ah, he does more than name versions?
[15:49] <cjwatson> U1510nameseeker: Mark is Canonical's founder
[15:49] <sil2100> infinity: hey! could you drop unity8 from the unaproved queue?
[15:49] <sil2100> Oh, thanks :)
[15:49] <cjwatson> that's why he gets to name stuff
[15:49] <sil2100> Actually someone just did
[15:49] <infinity> sil2100: pitti did, after I told him to.
[15:49] <infinity> Best. Minion. Ever.
[15:50] <smb> Banana?
[15:50] <pitti> sil2100: yes, that looked like a misfire to me
[15:50] <ogra_> for size ?
[15:50] <pitti> sil2100: I supposed it sohuld have gotten to the overlay PPA?
[15:50] <sil2100> pitti: yeah, sometimes it's easy to miss out on that especially when there are spreadsheet issues ;)
[15:51] <pitti> sil2100: no worries :)
[15:51] <sil2100> pitti: sorry for that one!
[15:52] <cyphermox> smb: Banana!
[15:52] <ogra_> for size ?
[15:54] <davmor2> pitti: don't stand for infinity calling you a minion, you need to sit for that kinda insult
[15:57] <pitti> davmor2: what? I've been his minion all week :)
[15:57] <flexiondotorg> infinity, cyphermox - Thanks for your help :)
[15:58] <davmor2> pitti: and for how much of that time have you been sitting?
[15:58] <cjwatson> davmor2: speak for yourself, I *like* being a minion
[15:59] <davmor2> cjwatson: minion is easier than leader :D Less meeting too :)
[16:12] <tjaalton> infinity: so should we poke lts-vivid backports next week?
[16:14] <Riddell> http://changelogs.ubuntu.com/meta-release hasn't updated yet?
[16:14] <infinity> tjaalton: We should, yes.
[16:14] <infinity> Riddell: Indeed it hasn't.
[16:15] <infinity> bdmurray: Can you twiddle meta-release for me?
[16:15] <bdmurray> infinity: yep
[16:16] <tjaalton> infinity: ok, i've pushed xtrans, libdrm (new on armhf), llvm-toolchain-3.6 (new) and xserver (new) already, though xserver won't build before mesa is uploaded and built..
[16:17] <tjaalton> upgrade/downgrade on the staging ppa works
[16:18] <slangasek> infinity: congrats :)
[16:21] <bdmurray> infinity: done
[16:21] <infinity> bdmurray: Ta.
[16:22] <cjwatson> have we flipped the ddebs switch yet
[16:22] <cjwatson> ?
[16:22] <infinity> cjwatson: Nein.
[16:22] <cjwatson> slackers
[16:23] <cjwatson> thought you said the plan was five minutes after release :)
[16:23] <ogra_> bdmurray, flavours too ? someone in #u-r-p complains mate isnt updating yet
[16:23] <bdmurray> ogra_: its the same meta-release file and I literally just did it
[16:24] <ogra_> ah, k
[16:24] <cjwatson> ogra_: probably caches
[16:24] <ogra_> yeah
[16:25] <bdmurray> .cache/update-manager-core/meta-release
[16:27] <infinity> cjwatson: "Five minutes after release" is a bit of a flexible time...
[16:28] <Odd_Bloke> He didn't mean five of your Earth minutes.
[16:29] <cjwatson> oh, silly me
[16:33] <cjwatson> Proportionally-scaled Venusian minutes give you until about 11:34 UTC tomorrow.
[16:33] <apw> i don't want to know what a venusion FTE costs per year
[16:34] <cjwatson> Depends whether the contract drafter was foresighted enough to specify it in terms of years rather than days
[16:34] <cjwatson> (The Venusian day is slightly longer than the Venusian year)
[16:34] <pitti> beer time!
[16:34] <cjwatson> And it rotates backwards. Weird planet
[22:04] <doko> please could somebody accept the final gccgo-5 5.1.0 release as long as buildds are idle?
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2015-04-23-#ubuntu-motu
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[06:57] <dholbach> good morning
[06:58] <Unit193> Heya.
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ubuntu-chat
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2015-04-23-#lubuntu
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[00:33] <ianorlin> is there a package so that when I update kernel I will pull down the latest linux-tools for my kernel as I need this for turbostat to work and having to do pull this in every kernel update could be annoying
[03:39] <pr0tlogic> hello, I am trying to install lubuntu on my logical drive, but it doesn't show the raid 10 array it shows the drives as if in jbod, anyone know why?
[03:49] <h-bomb> New release in a few hours right?
[03:53] <ianorlin> yes h-bomb
[03:53] <pr0tlogic> can the lubuntu installer do software raid?
[03:53] * h-bomb gets giddy!
[03:54] <ianorlin> pr0tlogic: I honestly don't know but I don't use raid myself
[03:55] <Unit193> Thought the alternate/debian-installer did them better?
[03:55] <Unit193> !raid
[03:56] <Unit193> Maybe. :P
[03:57] <pr0tlogic> nah
[03:58] <pr0tlogic> none of those help
[03:58] <Unit193> Was worth a shot.
[03:58] <Unit193> And I'm with ianorlin, done LVM, not raid.
[03:59] <Unit193> pr0tlogic: Ubuntu and Lubuntu use the same installer, so #ubuntu or a channel specific to raid/the installer/etc will still apply to Lubuntu.
[03:59] <wxl> h-bomb: yeah, it's not exactly going to happen at daybreak :)
[03:59] <Unit193> !isitout | h-bomb
[03:59] <pr0tlogic> well ubuntu has options for software raid
[03:59] <pr0tlogic> I don't see those with lubuntu
[04:00] <Unit193> Oh? Interesting. Wonder what backend package Lubuntu's installer is missing this time.
[04:00] <Unit193> pr0tlogic: What version?
[04:00] <wxl> pr0tlogic: ubiquity or debian-installer?
[04:00] <pr0tlogic> 14.10
[04:00] <wxl> cuz i'm in d-i now and i see raid as an option
[04:00] <Unit193> pr0tlogic: And, before opening the installer, check if dmraid is installed?
[04:01] <pr0tlogic> yes dmraid is installed
[04:01] <pr0tlogic> maybe i should try the LTS?
[04:01] <pr0tlogic> would that make a difference?
[04:02] <wxl> doubtful
[04:02] <wxl> are you using debian installer or ubiquity?
[04:02] <pr0tlogic> whatever the dewfault is
[04:02] <pr0tlogic> I just downloaded lubuntu 14.10 today
[04:02] <wxl> with the desktop or alternate installer?
[04:02] <pr0tlogic> slapped it on a usb stick and booted iut
[04:02] <pr0tlogic> i tried both ways
[04:03] <pr0tlogic> i tried booting it live and using the installer
[04:03] <pr0tlogic> and then just selecting the installer from grub
[04:03] <wxl> well alternate does not have a live option
[04:03] <wxl> so you haven't tried that?
[04:03] <pr0tlogic> what is alternate install?
[04:03] <wxl> there are two lubuntu images, outside of the different architectures (e.g. amd64, i386, ppc): alternate and desktop
[04:04] <pr0tlogic> oh im using desktop
[04:04] <wxl> desktop has a live session and uses the ubiquity installer that ubuntu uses
[04:04] <pr0tlogic> thats what im using
[04:04] <wxl> alternate does not have a live session and uses the debian installer that ubuntu SERVER uses
[04:04] <pr0tlogic> oh
[04:04] <pr0tlogic> gotcha
[04:04] <pr0tlogic> and ubuntu server includes raid options
[04:04] <pr0tlogic> awesome, thank you sexy :D
[04:04] <pr0tlogic> much appreciated
[04:04] <wxl> certainly does
[12:16] <zy3pD> hi everybody, there is a bug in PCManFM 1.2.0 (Lubuntu 14.04): When I press F4 to open the current dir in a terminal nothing happens if the path contains a space ... maybe someone forgot to surround the path with "" ... is this bug already known? ^^
[13:20] <asound> two friend of mine have sound problems
[13:20] <asound> how can i setup correctly the sound when having more then one sound card?
[13:21] <asound> in for example kubuntu i can setup the soundcard by settings
[13:21] <asound> but how can i set that up in lubuntu?
[13:32] <asound> hello?
[16:15] <jay8989> how to I change the text of lubuntu to resemble windows 7
[16:15] <jay8989> ?
[16:15] <holstein> jay8989: i might start with a screenshot or name for the font from windows. .there are windows fonts available..
[16:15] <holstein> you can likely add them, and just set the UI to use them
[16:16] <jay8989> im a newbie with linux
[16:16] <holstein> sure
[16:16] <jay8989> is there a program in lubuntu that allows me to change it
[16:16] <holstein> then, maybe just use it "as-is".. imagine when you were a newbie to windows, and you just used the system "as-is"
[16:16] <jay8989> like desktop preferences
[16:17] <holstein> jay8989: sure. there are lots of settings in the menu.. what i suggest is, use the live iso to experiment with those settings
[16:17] <jay8989> i mean I have some moderate skills with terminal commands
[16:17] <holstein> then, you dont "break" the installed os in any way
[16:18] <jay8989> well I think lubuntu is great but I favor the windows 7 fonts
[16:18] <holstein> you can also poke around or play around with the guest user, or a new user you create.. then, you dont "mess up" your current system
[16:18] <holstein> jay8989: sure.. just explain to a volunteer what fonts you want, by name, or some other way, and im sure that can happe
[16:18] <jay8989> lubuntu fonts seem soft
[16:18] <holstein> jay8989: i dont have windows 7 here, and its not free for me to check it
[16:19] <holstein> jay8989: what i would do is, just install the windows fonts, and apply them, and see if thats more what i want
[16:19] <jay8989> alright thanks for your help
[16:19] <holstein> !info ttf-mscorefonts-installer
[16:19] <jay8989> i see, yea ive done that for google earth linux
[16:19] <holstein> also, the "restricted extras" meta package installs windows fonts, and *lots* of other packages
[16:20] <holstein> jay8989: likely, you can just change the font, and find one you like
[16:20] <jay8989> this is off topic, whats your experience with peppermint compared to lubuntu ?
[16:20] <holstein> i live near the peppermint dev's
[16:21] <holstein> they both use lxde.. peppermint is great. and an even smaller community with little/no support
[16:21] <holstein> lubuntu is an official flavor.. meaning, lubuntu *is* ubuntu
[16:21] <jay8989> yes support is important
[16:21] <holstein> that means something.. you get support.. upstream support.. peppermint doesnt have that, though, it *is* quite nice, and has lots of specialized tools
[16:21] <holstein> the dev team are great
[16:21] <jay8989> i heard lubuntu is going to lxqt at some point
[16:21] <holstein> jay8989: ?
[16:22] <holstein> jay8989: you should have heard/read that lxde is doing that.. upstream
[17:28] <ig0r_> why doesn't GUFW work with Lubuntu?
[17:29] <wxl> !info GUFW
[17:29] <wxl> !info ufw
[17:29] <holstein> should.. whats the issue?
[17:29] <wxl> oh derp
[17:29] <wxl> haven't tried but should work
[17:31] <holstein> i havent tried it recently, but last i did, it fired up.. whats the issue? can you start it from the terminal? and see any helpful error messages
[17:35] <ig0r_> I'd also like to know how to istall the latest Guest Additions for Virtualbox
[17:35] <wxl> ig0r_: for 15.04?
[17:35] <ig0r_> yes
[17:36] <wxl> ig0r_: virtualbox always lags behind. go complain at them :)
[20:19] <h-bomb> !isitout
[21:27] <jay38478> how do i change my root password
[21:27] <jay38478> ?
[21:27] <jay38478> i want to change my root password and also make it so when I boot into lubuntu it asks for a password
[22:23] <nicklas> hello, is the new lubuntu release still gtk, or has lubuntu switched to qt/lxqt now?
[22:23] <Unit193> GTK.
[22:23] <nicklas> thats too bad
[22:23] <Unit193> Not really, LXQt isn't ready for sure.
[22:24] <nicklas> i prefer qt, i run kubuntu atm, but cant upgrade cause of too little memory, i have a good pc with big hdd, but the os is installed with a small ssd with a few fps games
[22:56] <Ahmuck> "weather plugin" for panel does not appear to work
[22:56] <Ahmuck> battery icon is gone?
[23:12] <Ahmuck> right clicking and selecting "volume control settings" is activating the f12 key (i assume) as guake is opening rather than volume control settings.
[23:30] <talsamon> hallo I have upgraded some hours ago to 15.04 on my i686-pc. got this:init-zram-swapping[689]: mkswap: error: swap area needs to be at least 40 KiB, zram-config.service: main process exited, code=exited, status=255/n/a, Failed to start Initializes zram swaping - no answer in the ubuntu-channel. what is to do?
[23:32] <talsamon> swapon -s /dev/sda5 partition 2618364 8708 -1
[23:32] <talsamon> 2,5 GB RAM
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2015-04-23-#ubuntu-pl
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[12:07] <TheNumb> http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/milestones/338/builds
[12:20] <drathir> niedlugo chyba trzeba "lewy" numer kupic do tych wszystkich smieciowych googleow ;/
[13:01] <TheNumb> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/VividVervet/ReleaseNotes
[14:22] <Ashiren> "systemd has replaced Upstart as the standard boot and service manager" uff
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2024-05-13T22:11:16.656980
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2015-04-23-#ubuntu-kernel
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[12:43] <jtaylor> hi, is the lts utopic kernel currently in proposed based on 3.16.7-ckt9?
[12:44] <jtaylor> if yes is debian bug 782362 taken care of? couldn't find it in the changelog
[12:46] <rtg> jtaylor, 3.16.7-ckt9 was merged as of Ubuntu-3.16.0-35.46
[12:46] <jtaylor> so the proposed kernel is affected?
[12:47] <rtg> jtaylor, yup, looks like it.
[12:49] <jtaylor> rtg: what needs to be done to prevent the unfixed kernel from hitting updates?
[12:50] <henrix> jtaylor: looking at the bug, it seems that commit 9c4f61f01d269815bb7c37 fixes it. and this commit is already queued for the 3.16.7-ckt11 stable release
[12:50] <henrix> jtaylor: which means it will hit the lts-utopic kernel in the next SRU cycle
[12:50] <rtg> jtaylor, if it is a serious regression, then contact bjf
[12:51] <jtaylor> henrix: what does that mean? the current proposed kernel will go to updates and the fix will come next time?
[12:52] <henrix> jtaylor: correct. i'm still going through that bug report
[12:52] <rmariotti> Hi, i've just built a new kernel, looking in /boot i noticed that the initrd of the custom kernel is 5 times bigger than generic's initrd (~100 mb vs ~20 mb). it is normal?
[12:52] <apw> rmariotti, sounds like an unstripped build, how did you build it
[12:53] <rmariotti> apw: the initramfs or the kernel?
[12:53] <apw> the kernel, as that initramfs just sucks up whatever is in /lib/modules
[12:56] <rmariotti> i've just extracted the kernel, patched it, then i runned "make mrproper", "make menuconfig" and i buit it with "make bzImage modules" and "make modules_install". Then i copied bzImage, System.map and config in /boot.
[12:56] <jtaylor> henrix: a report in ubuntu: bug 1445252
[12:57] <henrix> jtaylor: looks like the issue is not actually a regression in the kernel in -proposed, the issue is already present in the kernel in -updates
[12:57] <jtaylor> henrix: current updates is based on ckt7?
[12:57] <jtaylor> that should be good
[12:58] <henrix> jtaylor: the commit that introduced the issue was commit 381cf6587f8a8a8e981bc0c1aaaa8859b51dc756, which you can seen in the changelog with "btrfs: fix leak of path in btrfs_find_item"
[12:58] <henrix> jtaylor: and no, current -updates is based on 3.16.7-ckt8
[12:59] <jtaylor> ah ok its probably affected then
[12:59] <jtaylor> k then nothing needs to be done for current proposed I guess
[13:00] <henrix> jtaylor: anyway, thanks for the heads-up -- i'll keep track of your bug report and make sure the fix is in the next cycle
[13:00] <henrix> jtaylor: i'm pretty sure it will be, as -ckt11 should be released with the fix
[13:01] <apw> henrix, mark it up with a break-fix ...
[13:02] <henrix> apw: on it ;)
[13:02] <jtaylor> thanks for checking it
[13:04] <apw> henrix, this is an egg :)
[13:08] <rmariotti> apw: i followed the right process? The kernel works.
[13:10] <apw> rmariotti, ok to do that you need to turn off debug symbols else you get huge binaries as you have, CONFIG_DEBUG_INFO needs to be off to avoid that, the ubuntu packaging packages those as are into debug packages and then strips them for the main packages
[13:11] <rmariotti> apw: thank you for the help.
[22:51] <zzmp> I'm on 3.10.18 and I don't have nfnetlink or nfnetlink_queue modules available in my kernel. I've looked through some of the wikis, but can't find how to get it. Does anyone know how I could either get those *.ko files, or compile them myself?
[23:04] <zzmp> anyone?
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2015-04-23-#ubuntu-tr
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[16:29] <totimkopf> ujjain: bilmiyorum hoor
[16:30] <totimkopf> Kartagis: napiyorsun?
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2015-04-23-#lubuntu-devel
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[02:02] <gsilva> sorry, only saw now your message, wxl. What do you mean by taking comms? No, I don't
[02:39] <wxl> gsilva: whomever was in charge of comms/marketing usually put the official press release together which would be copied to the mailing lists
[02:41] <Unit193> "Release announcement"
[02:41] <wxl> well yeah depending on who was in charge we'd call it that :)
[02:46] <wxl> gsilva: make sure to talk to rafaellaguna about translations
[05:15] <ianorlin> gsilva: why does 15.04 link to power pc on altenrate installer page when they are LTS only
[05:56] <wxl> ianorlin: Kamilion: want to confrim bug 1446247? i see no way to get the battery indicator, either
[05:57] <Kamilion> hm
[05:58] <Kamilion> just a tick, will fire up my bay trail
[05:59] <wxl> nm it works on battery monitor it seems :/
[05:59] <wxl> you just have to add it
[05:59] <wxl> looks crappy though
[06:03] <Unit193> Install -plugins, add the lxpanel plugin. In the next release (series), xfpm will have the tray icon back, and removed the lxpanel plugin due to going gtk3.
[06:05] <wxl> install lxpanel-plugins?
[06:07] <wxl> there's lxpanel-indicator-applet-plugin but i don't think that's what you mean Unit193
[06:07] <Unit193> !info xfce4-power-manager-plugins
[06:07] <Unit193> !info xfce4-power-manager-plugins vivid
[06:07] <wxl> already installed
[06:08] <Unit193> Oh hey, this package is missing it now.
[06:08] <wxl> where do i add the plugin?
[06:08] <wxl> what specifically are we looking for?
[06:09] <Unit193> wxl: Nono, the -plugins package lost it in a recent upload.
[06:09] <wxl> Unit193: it == ?
[06:09] <wxl> the lxpanel plugin?
[06:10] <Kamilion> sounds like it.
[06:10] <Unit193> Yeah, dpkg -L it.
[06:10] <Kamilion> 33KB -> 26KB
[06:10] <Unit193> it wasn't supposed to.
[06:10] <wxl> hm and my 14.04 doesn't have it installed
[06:11] <wxl> weird
[06:11] <Kamilion> !info xfce4-power-manager-plugins trusty
[06:11] <Unit193> Added in vivid, wxl.
[06:11] <wxl> oh
[06:11] <Kamilion> utopic, you mean?
[06:11] <wxl> added in vivid, but broken right out of the gate :)
[06:11] <Kamilion> or is that something else?
[06:12] <wxl> i'd like to say i've gotten used to Unit193's mysterious prose, Kamilion, but it's ok. #1 he's in ohio and #2 it's pretty freaking late over there, so i forgive him.
[06:12] <Unit193> -rw-r--r-- root/root 62864 2015-01-21 07:21 ./usr/lib/i386-linux-gnu/lxpanel/plugins/lxde_power_manager.so
[06:12] <Unit193> wxl: Jackson Doak broke it last upload.
[06:12] <Unit193> Thu, 23 Apr 2015 02:12:56 -0400
[06:13] <wxl> damn you Noskcaj
[06:13] <wxl> :)
[06:13] <wxl> i mean darn you.
[06:14] <wxl> Unit193: got a link that that recent upload at hand?
[06:14] <Kamilion> k, so I'm guessing I don't actually need to confirm that now, lol
[06:14] <Unit193> https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xfce4-power-manager/1.4.3-0ubuntu1 bad, and the good one is: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xfce4-power-manager/1.4.2-0ubuntu5/
[06:15] <Unit193> wxl: Well, he may not have broken it, but it's not working and he was the one that uploaded. :P
[06:15] <wxl> it's in utopic
[06:16] <wxl> well the package is requested in the seed
[06:16] <wxl> but not trusty
[06:16] <wxl> well admittedly he pulled from an upstream release
[06:17] <wxl> now to dig that up
[06:17] <Unit193> +1.4.3
[06:17] <Unit193> +[06:17] <Unit193> +New stable release of xfce4-power-manager.
[06:17] <Unit193> +
[06:17] <Unit193> +* Miscellaneous bug fixes:
[06:17] <Unit193> + - Handle autotools m4 stuff properly
[06:17] <Unit193> + - Plug a memory leak (Bug #11538)
[06:17] <Unit193> + - Add support for ConsoleKit2
[06:17] <Unit193> Soo.
[06:17] <Kamilion> nothing that sounds like it was intended to be removed.
[06:18] <Kamilion> unless it was the CK2 changes that broke it
[06:18] <wxl> fellow bug hunters i direct your attention to http://git.xfce.org/panel-plugins/xfce4-battery-plugin/
[06:19] <wxl> or is that the wrong thing?
[06:19] <wxl> it is
[06:19] <wxl> http://git.xfce.org/xfce/xfce4-power-manager/tag/?id=xfce4-power-manager-1.4.3
[06:20] <Unit193> checking for optional package lxpanel >= 0.7.0... not found
[06:20] <Unit193> checking for optional package lxpanel >= 0.5.6... not found
[06:21] <Unit193> wxl: dpkg -L lxpanel, got dev files?
[06:21] <Kamilion> http://git.xfce.org/xfce/xfce4-power-manager/commit/?id=2c36ae152063984628700fd22bed2f6149a0fd58
[06:21] <Kamilion> heh
[06:21] <Unit193> If not, lxpanel is at fault.
[06:21] <wxl> don't seem to Unit193
[06:22] <Kamilion> http://git.xfce.org/xfce/xfce4-power-manager/commit/?id=9e7b4a7bee929b1dd6be3375c1d4b104bf4d660e
[06:22] <Unit193> Nice. Job. I already fixed that once. :/
[06:22] <Kamilion> could be this commit that changes the minimum versions.
[06:22] <wxl> i doubt it
[06:22] <Kamilion> i don't see much else in the commit log
[06:23] <Unit193> Kamilion: I said in the move to GTK3 (Xfce 4.14 roadmap) lxpanel plugin is removed and tray icon is added.
[06:23] <Kamilion> lots of translations updates
[06:23] <Kamilion> ah
[06:23] <Unit193> But that's unrelated, and Wombat.
[06:23] <Unit193> Vivid should have it, except there's no lxpanel development files.
[06:23] <wxl> so dev files in lxpanel? got an example of what needs fixed Unit193, or you on it?
[06:24] <Unit193> wxl: Isn't it too late? :P
[06:24] <wxl> Unit193: not for updates
[06:24] <Kamilion> it's never too late until it's too late.
[06:24] <Kamilion> so just nike.
[06:25] <Kamilion> https://soundcloud.com/mcaser/remember
[06:25] <Unit193> wxl: I'd suspect https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/lxpanel/0.6.2-0ubuntu2 needs to happen again, but I haven't confirmed.
[06:26] <wxl> Unit193: you mean usr/include and usr/lib/*/pkgconfig?
[06:27] <Kamilion> is the override_dh_install still there?
[06:28] <wxl> Unit193: /usr/include/lxpanel does include some headers and such and /usr/lib/*/pkgconfig/lxpanel.pc exists
[06:31] <wxl> so i don't think that's it
[06:31] <Unit193> wxl: Oh? Good. Right, so what's the deps in the pc file?
[06:31] <wxl> as that seems to be what was included in utopic
[06:32] <wxl> Unit193: glib-2.0 libfm
[06:33] <wxl> and i certainly see no reason why lxpanel shouldn't be supported according to the required packages: http://git.xfce.org/xfce/xfce4-power-manager/tree/README?id=xfce4-power-manager-1.4.3
[06:33] <wxl> which is still consistent with trunk for that particular requirement
[06:34] <Unit193> wxl: Have pbuilder?
[06:34] <wxl> Unit193: yep but not on the vivid vm. i can grab it.
[06:35] <Unit193> VM will work. So try building xfpm, then install libfm-dev, then rebuild. I suspect that'll fix it.
[06:36] <Unit193> wxl: The deps in the .pc file used to include libmenucache, but lxpanel didn't dep on -dev so we had to add that in build-deps of xfpm. Now it looks like lxpanel switched that out for libfm-dev, and again never added the dep.
[06:36] <wxl> sigh
[06:37] <wxl> where does the plugin actually get built?
[06:37] <wxl> i don't see it in configure unless i'm missing something
[06:37] <Unit193> wxl: Actually, just run configure and see if it finds lxpanel.
[06:37] <wxl> Unit193: yeah but i don't see it in the configure itself. i see no check
[06:38] <Unit193> wxl: I pasted a couple above, you'll see 'checking for lxpanel...'
[06:38] <wxl> i saw that much
[06:39] <Unit193> Ah, so you mean actually in the script, look in configure.ac, easier to read. In checking, it'll look at lxpanel.pc for the deps, and if not met lxpanel isn't found.
[06:39] <wxl> ic
[06:40] <Unit193> (I had to hunt this crap down the first time. I'll be glad when lxpanel's plugin in xfpm is gone.)
[06:40] <wxl> heheh
[06:40] <Unit193> ...Wait, how did I get sucked into doing this now? 0_o
[06:41] <wxl> hahahah
[06:41] <wxl> ok got pbuilder
[06:41] <Kamilion> because you're the one with the knowledge
[06:41] * wxl hunts down the .dsc
[06:41] * Kamilion is learnerating too
[06:42] <Unit193> My brain stopped working a while ago, it's heavy because I didn't sleep.
[06:42] <Unit193> wxl: Hint, pdebuild is nice.
[06:43] <wxl> meanwhile, pbuilder --create drones on…
[06:44] <wxl> ummm
[06:45] <Unit193> Yarp?
[06:46] <wxl> nuttin. got the xfpm deb
[06:46] <wxl> waiting on builder create :/
[06:47] <wxl> Unit193: so just apt-get source and pdebuild then, right?
[06:48] <Unit193> wxl: Swap the menucache dep for libfm-dev
[06:48] <Unit193> pdebuild creates the dsc, so you don't need to first.
[06:49] <wxl> kk
[06:49] <ianorlin> also there are refrences and links to powerpc on the alternate page
[06:50] <Unit193> Ewww, nononono.
[06:50] <ianorlin> also xombrero is actually in the 15.04 repos so should the need for ppa be mentioned on the bottom of alternate
[06:50] <Unit193> You said two bad words!
[06:50] <Unit193> The, err, PPA is better IMO. Feels funny saying that though.
[06:50] <ianorlin> I don't have much expierence
[06:51] <wxl> Unit193: do yo uwant me to rebuild -plugins or xfpm itself?
[06:51] <ianorlin> last time I tried it was quite crashy
[06:52] <Unit193> ianorlin: Right, so vivid has it, good. The PPA one is newer, contains a dbg package, and is built against gtk2 so flash works. webkit is better in vivid, so xombrero crashes less.
[06:52] <Unit193> wxl: Same thing, xfpm is the source, so -plugins is then built from that source.
[06:52] <wxl> Unit193: oh. gots it. so i need to add libfm-dev to lxpanel.pc?
[06:53] <Unit193> checking for lxpanel >= 0.5.6... 0.7.2
[06:53] <Unit193> wxl: Umm. No.
[06:53] * wxl cries
[06:53] * wxl told you he didn't understand packaging
[06:54] <Unit193> wxl: So everything is now in https://sigma.unit193.net/source/ to get the plugin to build. The correct fix is to fix it in lxpanel, and then rebuild xfpm but hey, whatever.
[06:54] <Unit193> dget that dsc.
[06:55] <wxl> Unit193: i know you'll hate me for this but i want to fix it :)
[06:56] <Unit193> wxl: Right, so vim xfce4-power-manager-1.4.3/debian/control and change the build-dep from libmenucache-dev (or whatever) to libfm-dev. Problem is, ftbfs.
[06:56] <Unit193> Loguploaded.
[06:56] <wxl> ah k
[06:57] <Unit193> .libs/lxde_power_manager_la-lxde-power-manager-plugin.o: In function `power_manager_plugin_new':
[06:57] <Unit193> /tmp/buildd/xfce4-power-manager-1.4.3/panel-plugins/power-manager-plugin/lxde-0.7/lxde-power-manager-plugin.c:82: undefined reference to `lxpanel_plugin_qdata'
[06:57] <Unit193> collect2: error: ld returned 1 exit status
[06:58] <wxl> Unit193: anytime. thanks for the help. :)
[06:59] <Unit193> That was in -ot. :P
[06:59] <Unit193> And sure, but that leaves you in the same ship.
[06:59] <wxl> all good
[06:59] <wxl> you got me far enough along
[06:59] <wxl> and this can wait regardless
[07:03] <Unit193> ianorlin: So rather my opinion, but of course repo > ppa. Am I making any sense? :P
[07:03] <ianorlin> yes
[07:03] <Unit193> \o/
[07:42] <ianorlin> wxk get it to build yet?
[07:42] <ianorlin> wxl ^^
[07:43] <ianorlin> ah marked ready so may be SRUing this one
[07:45] <Unit193> FTBFS.
[07:45] <ianorlin> ah yeah don't think this can get resolved on release really
[08:15] <Kamilion> so there's another ppa for post-release updates?
[14:02] <gsilva> hi everyone o/
[14:12] <gsilva> no news about the release, wxl, ianorlin, Unit193 ?
[14:14] <wxl> gsilva: we seem to be waiting on kylin but the official announcement will be made on #ubuntu-release
[14:14] <gsilva> oki
[14:14] <gsilva> can you guys let me know?
[14:14] <gsilva> when the official announcement is made*
[14:16] <melodie> hi
[14:16] <gsilva> hi, melodie. Forgot to reply to your email. sorry, I overslept today and the day isn't going very well
[14:16] <melodie> has someone noticed any issue with lxappearance?
[14:16] <gsilva> We can meet later tonight, around 22 or so
[14:16] <melodie> gsilva no worry
[14:16] <melodie> yes, this could be ok
[14:17] <gsilva> cool ;)
[14:17] <melodie> I am here to ask about lxappearance
[14:17] <melodie> well I myself went to sleep very late as you could see per the mail I sent back to you, but strangely I didn't get up that late, and I am feeling tired
[14:17] <melodie> but I still want to do lots of little things that take time, in my computers
[14:19] <melodie> I met an issue in Bento 64bits which I upgraded to Vivid in my tower. Lxappearance would not start, and when started with debug there was something about the obconf plugin of lxappearance. Once removed the problem is solved, lxappearance starts
[14:19] <melodie> I would like to know if the same can be seen in Lubuntu Vivid, or if it is only me?
[14:19] <melodie> if in Lubuntu as well I'll go do the bug report
[14:23] <melodie> never mind if no one can check, I'll grab it and launch it in vbox
[14:26] <wxl> will do gsilva
[14:27] <wxl> melodie: just you
[14:27] <melodie> hi wxl
[14:28] <melodie> what are you saying?
[14:28] <wxl> hai
[14:28] <wxl> no problems with lxappearance here
[14:28] <melodie> it seems to me that lxappearance does not work the way it used to, in the actual version
[14:28] <wxl> lxappearance starts fine here
[14:29] <melodie> example, I just changed the gtk theme in it, I am using graybird from the shimmer-theme, but it is not changed in the settings.ini in the gtk-3 folder
[14:29] <melodie> do you have lxappearance-obconf installed in your system?
[14:29] <melodie> wxl can you check that?
[14:30] <wxl> melodie: oh, no. we just use lxappearance
[14:30] <melodie> well if you add lxappearance-obconf, then does it start or doesn't it?
[14:30] <melodie> this is the bug I try to pin point, for a start
[14:30] <wxl> well hold on i see alot of references to obconf
[14:30] <melodie> the gtk 3 settings ini will come after
[14:31] <wxl> lxappearance-obconf that is
[14:31] <melodie> yes
[14:31] <melodie> it is supposed to add the obconf tab in the lxappearance gui
[14:31] <wxl> the tab is called obconf?
[14:31] <melodie> well it is meant for this purpose, and obviously hasn't been updated, so maybe this is the problem?
[14:32] <melodie> I try to check in my Trusty install (here) just a sec
[14:32] <wxl> oh interesting
[14:32] <wxl> it is a separate package and is installed
[14:32] <melodie> aha
[14:33] <wxl> i see
[14:33] <melodie> yes, I have it in bento trusty too
[14:33] <wxl> it adds things like window border, etc.
[14:33] <wxl> where's this settings.ini?
[14:33] <melodie> yes, exactly!
[14:33] <melodie> in .config/gtk-3.0
[14:33] <wxl> none there
[14:34] <melodie> and in /etc/gtk-3.0
[14:34] <wxl> i only have bookmarks
[14:34] <melodie> omg Lubuntu uses a custom profile
[14:34] <wxl> there is one in etc
[14:34] <melodie> what about /etc/gtk-3.0 ?
[14:34] <melodie> ok
[14:35] <melodie> I wonder if lxappearance has been patched for lubuntu - unlikely right?
[14:35] <wxl> which is not consistent with the setup of lxappearance
[14:35] <wxl> you mean changed from upstream?
[14:35] <melodie> yes?
[14:35] <melodie> probably not?
[14:35] <wxl> !info lxappearance vivid
[14:36] <wxl> possibly
[14:36] <wxl> strange versioning
[14:36] <wxl> usually there's a 1ubuntu1 or something which would lead one to know the status of patches
[14:37] <wxl> it's possible that -1 indicates that one patch exists
[14:39] <melodie> normally not
[14:39] <melodie> it usually means it's the first package done with this branch
[14:39] <wxl> melodie: of course that patch could be as little as changing some debian control file crap
[14:39] <wxl> so if i were you i'd compare whatever version you have with the revision info https://code.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-branches/ubuntu/vivid/lxappearance/vivid
[14:40] <melodie> I think I can ask help from the dev of lxappearance when he will be on his chan, as if there is no bug in lubuntu, it might be something which can be found with strace or with gdb, just I'm not qualified to debug the right way
[14:40] * wxl notes that it's behaving right trusty, too
[14:40] <wxl> in trusty
[14:40] <melodie> in Trusty I don't have any issue at all
[14:42] <melodie> I have to check the settings in /etc
[14:43] <melodie> ok, so I'll see with Lstranger a bit later, thank you.
[14:43] <wxl> np
[15:25] <melodie> wxl I might have found the cause of my issue
[15:25] <melodie> I have to check something to be sure
[15:42] <melodie> what is the right command line to output the content of "strace" to a file instead of stdin ?
[15:48] <melodie> never mind I found
[15:55] <wxl> gsilva: looks like we're good to go
[15:56] <gsilva> okay, need to finish one thing before and I'll start the job
[15:56] <gsilva> thanks
[15:56] <wxl> gsilva: you get the press release taken care of?
[15:56] <gsilva> phillw said to ask Kris that
[15:56] <wxl> k
[15:56] <gsilva> Assuming you're referring to the social media thing
[15:57] <gsilva> Or you're talking about this: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu/Announcement/15.04
[15:57] <wxl> well when silverlion was around we had a consistent message— the press release— which would be used everywhere, including the mailing list
[15:58] <wxl> gsilva: like https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu/Marketing/Press%20Releases?highlight=%28lubuntu%29%7C%28press%29%7C%28release%29
[15:59] <gsilva> No, I haven't done that
[15:59] <gsilva> Don't we have a comms guy?
[15:59] <gsilva> I thought this wasn't from my team
[15:59] <wxl> yeah i guess we do :)
[15:59] <wxl> he's not on irc
[16:03] <wxl> sent an email
[16:04] <gsilva> Should I wait for him?
[16:04] <wxl> no
[16:04] <wxl> make the wiki ready
[16:13] <gsilva> here we go then
[16:23] <gsilva> Done, wxl
[16:26] <gsilva> red alert: Kris says he doesn't has access to Facebook and G+ groups
[16:33] <gsilva> wxl, do you know who has access to the administration of Facebook and such?
[16:33] <gsilva> My share is done, btw
[16:46] <wxl> gsilva: kris should be in charge, but phillw and i can both help
[16:46] <gsilva> He says he doesn't has access to those two groups
[16:52] <wxl> gsilva: as it relates to facebook, i'm pretty sure he's smoking something
[16:52] <gsilva> lool
[16:52] <gsilva> Don't know, but he has emphasized that
[16:52] <gsilva> Unless he's not aware about what to do
[16:53] <wxl> gsilva: did he go to https://www.facebook.com/groups/lubuntu.official/?
[16:56] <gsilva> wxl, we need a comms leader...
[16:56] <wxl> gsilva: kris is supposed to be!
[16:56] <gsilva> Anyway, he is taking care of that, although he pointed out that the website hasn't published anything
[16:56] <gsilva> I know, but I meant a dedicated one
[16:57] <wxl> yeah well start recruiting
[16:57] <gsilva> Wasn't silverlion in charge of that?
[16:58] <wxl> yeah but he l;eft
[16:58] <wxl> i thought kris was THE GUY now
[16:59] <wxl> maybe this might be good for a discssion on lubuntu-admins
[16:59] <wxl> make sure he's included
[16:59] <gsilva> And he's mad at me
[17:00] <wxl> he's also a mod here https://plus.google.com/communities/102737741860934586009
[17:01] <gsilva> Alright
[17:01] <gsilva> Told him and I'm not insisting anymore. Focusing on my thesis for no
[17:01] <gsilva> now*
[17:01] <wxl> is he on irc??/
[17:02] <gsilva> No
[17:03] <gsilva> Ah, he announced on Facebook and G+, although he can't announce on the official Lubuntu Page
[17:03] <wxl> haven't seen anything on the lists yet
[17:03] <wxl> official lubuntu page = lubuntu.net?
[17:04] <wxl> man i feel like i should be talking to him directly
[17:05] <gsilva> He posed on the official lubuntu page (on Facebook) and hence an admin can simply share or copy-paste the thing
[17:05] <gsilva> no, official page on Facebook
[17:05] <gsilva> lubuntu.net is not done yet
[17:07] <wxl> there's a lubuntu official GROUP on facebook
[17:07] <wxl> but not a page
[17:07] <wxl> well i guess there's this https://www.facebook.com/Lubuntu.Official.Page?fref=ts
[17:07] <wxl> i have no access to it
[17:09] <wxl> krismaguire: i have no access to that lubuntu PAGE
[17:09] <wxl> you are admins of the google+ community and facebook GROUP but i don't know about that page
[17:09] <wxl> did you also get twitter, reddit?
[17:09] <wxl> the mailing list?
[17:11] <krismaguire> done twitter, don't have access to the reddit
[17:11] <krismaguire> which mailing list does it go to?
[17:11] <wxl> hold on and i'
[17:11] <wxl> ll fix that
[17:12] <wxl> i'd send it to lubuntu-admins, lubuntu-qa and lubuntu-users
[17:12] <wxl> the former two are on launchpad
[17:12] <wxl> if you're not a member of qa, don't sweat it, i'll approve
[17:14] <wxl> gsilva: we should add to the pre/post todo to make sure we have access to everything :)
[17:14] <wxl> krismaguire: what's your twitter handle?
[17:14] <wxl> argh
[17:14] <wxl> s/twitter/reddit/
[17:14] <krismaguire> LubuntuOfficial
[17:15] <wxl> krismaguire: reddit
[17:15] <krismaguire> I don't have a reddit
[17:15] <wxl> would you like to get one then? :)
[17:16] <wxl> so question, krismaguire: are you now the official comms guy or are you temporary or what? i'm so confused :)
[17:17] <krismaguire> I'm temporary!
[17:17] <wxl> ah k
[17:17] * wxl sighs
[17:17] <wxl> so silverlion's coming back at some point?
[17:18] <krismaguire> Hopefully
[17:18] <krismaguire> Why the sigh matey?
[17:18] <wxl> oh well, we'll figure it out
[17:18] <wxl> i just wish we had someone who could just stay ;)
[17:18] <melodie> bbl
[17:19] <krismaguire> Reddit handle: krismaguire
[17:19] <krismaguire> This is my first ever release, it's mental!
[17:20] <wxl> hahahahah
[17:21] <wxl> you've been invitedcx to moderate the subreddit krismaguire
[17:21] <ianorlin> is pre release insomnia a thing cause I had trouble getting up
[17:21] <wxl> hahahahha
[17:21] <wxl> i wanted to lay in bed all day
[17:21] <wxl> but that's because my dog is so darn cuddly and cute :)
[17:21] <wxl> …and i was cold
[17:22] <wxl> although i did stay up way too late working on bugs
[17:23] <ianorlin> I mean I was up until 2 am which is quite late for me
[17:23] <wxl> yeah that's later than i go
[17:23] <wxl> i'm usually out by 10-11
[17:24] <ianorlin> me too
[17:26] <krismaguire> Well, it could have went worse
[17:27] <wxl> heheh
[17:27] <krismaguire> plus I now have a reddit account :D
[17:27] <wxl> krismaguire: about that, nice knowing you
[17:28] <wxl> seriously reddit is even worse than facebook when it comes to time suck
[17:28] <wxl> the time waster subreddits are just chock full of wonderful memes
[17:28] <wxl> and the comments are often better
[17:28] <wxl> and the serious subreddits have LOTS of great content
[17:32] <krismaguire> Yeah I read a lot of reddit for my vaping stuff :)
[18:54] <Unit193> http://lubuntu.net - http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/lubuntu/releases/14.10/release/lubuntu-15.04-desktop-i386.iso notice a problem there?
[18:56] <wxl> yeah well none of us have access to lubuntu.net Unit193
[18:57] <Unit193> Mhmm, still.
[18:58] <melodie> hi
[18:59] <melodie> wxl the issue I had met came from the openbox testing version from a ppa (lubuntu-devel) which I was testing
[18:59] <melodie> I sent a mail to the developer looking after this package, as he is also the maintainer of Openbox for the Debian repositories
[19:00] <wxl> okie dokie melodie
[19:01] <melodie> in the same shot I found one more bug in the package which lead me to be locked out during a moment
[19:01] <melodie> so it was not that fast to find
[19:02] <wxl> a nice reminder to always check version numbers first :)
[19:04] <melodie> wxl not at all
[19:05] <melodie> I have installed that ppa on purpose because it contains a long wished new feature
[19:05] <melodie> this is about testing
[19:05] <wxl> right, but if we would have checked numbers between us we would have figured out where the problem lied
[19:05] <melodie> the glitch I found is the reverse depends, it misses to automatically uninstaller libobrender and another package
[19:06] <melodie> you could not know I was using an openbox testing version
[19:06] <melodie> no harm done
[19:06] <wxl> we would not have matching versions
[19:06] <wxl> at which point you could apt-cache policy and see where yours came from
[19:07] <melodie> never mind as long as I could finally find what it was about
[19:07] <melodie> I also had to fix one of my virtualboxes, as it is always messy
[19:07] <melodie> since it's not free software! :-(
[19:10] <wxl> that's what kvm is for
[19:22] <melodie> not all my machines are kvm capable
[19:23] <melodie> I think only one perhaps, and since I got it I haven't learned how to use it
[19:23] <Unit193> KVM is the best way to test UEFI.
[19:24] <wxl> yeah i just discovered that
[19:24] <melodie> Unit193 none of my machines has uefi
[19:24] <melodie> hi btw :)
[19:24] <Unit193> ...Hence why it's the best way to test it, exactly my point...
[19:24] <Unit193> Hello.
[19:25] <melodie> kvm capability, is in the cpuinfo flags, right?
[19:26] <melodie> intel i5 in this one
[19:26] <melodie> kvm or not kvm ? :)
[19:36] <ianorlin> heck my 5 year old laptop can't run kvm on it
[19:36] <Unit193> `kvm-ok`
[19:53] <silverlion> o/ wxl
[20:10] <wxl> silverlion: sorry i dsiappeared
[20:10] <silverlion> all that matters is that you rejoined
[20:10] <wxl> hehehe
[20:10] <wxl> so any idea about lubuntu.net
[20:10] <silverlion> and regarding your question about lubuntu.net -> phillw has access
[20:10] <wxl> ?
[20:10] <wxl> ah ok
[20:22] <melodie> good night
[20:23] * phillw don't ban me, wxl asked me here
[20:23] <wxl> hai phillw :)
[20:23] * silverlion would not dare that ;)
[20:23] <wxl> phillw: do you have access to lubuntu.net or know who does?
[20:24] <Unit193> Mario Behling, wxl.
[20:24] <wxl> Unit193: and no one else?
[20:25] <phillw> wxl: i think Julien has, but is under mario - this has been a bone of contention in the past
[20:25] <wxl> sigghhhhhh
[20:25] <wxl> how do i contact mario?
[20:25] <phillw> +1
[20:25] <phillw> via Julien
[20:26] <wxl> alright well i sent him a facebook message so he'll be in touch soon
[20:26] <phillw> do not hold your breath
[20:36] <wxl> hahah ok
[20:37] <silverlion> wxl: fyi: Julien is on Facebook atm
[20:44] <phillw> silverlion: i said hello but he is on cell phone
[20:45] <silverlion> copy that
[21:38] <wxl> gsilva: not so far :)
[21:38] <gsilva> cool then
[22:18] <phillw> gsilva: did release day go okay with you?
[22:18] <wxl> phillw: he did awesome!
[22:20] <phillw> wxl: good. I saw the notification from Kris on fail book, so I guessed we had got that far :)
[22:20] <gsilva> Hi phillw
[22:20] <gsilva> Jesus, man, you just got off the plane :D
[22:20] <gsilva> Yes, it went smoothly
[22:20] <phillw> gsilva: aren't you glad we set up the steps :D
[22:21] <gsilva> indeed, that was the best thing ever
[22:21] <gsilva> and I actually mentioned it in my blog
[22:22] <phillw> now put in for membership, people like wxl will write horrible stuff on your testimonial are :P But, to pull off a release with all the pre-work you did? Should be a no brainer for the comittee
[22:23] <wxl> well i can't give gsilva a testimonitla phillw
[22:23] <wxl> it's a conflict of itnerest
[22:24] <wxl> i *CAN* act on the committee and give a +1
[22:24] <wxl> which i'll inevitably Ddo :)
[22:24] <phillw> you can and it is not, just you cannot give a +1
[22:24] <wxl> i'm a membership board member silly!
[22:25] <phillw> your testimonial is worth far more than one +1 :D
[22:25] <phillw> wxl: indeed, so you must go +0.... does not and will never stop a testimonial.
[22:26] <gsilva> Why you can't, wxl ?
[22:26] <phillw> gsilva: neoptism
[22:28] <phillw> he can either write honest testimonial or can lye and vote for you as idependent... I would rather him write testimonial and not vote.
[22:29] <wxl> actually i think i may already have
[22:29] <wxl> let's see the wiki
[22:31] <phillw> walter, if the lad has done the release TODO stuff, he has earned his badge.... I'll go nag Julien to back that up.
[22:32] <phillw> he did all the pre-prep a couple of months ago and was aware to nag release managers to keep two of the pages updated.
[22:33] <gsilva> Guys, if you think this is not the best time, then I can wait
[22:34] <gsilva> Besides, the manual is also starting and there might be something out of it
[22:34] <wxl> gsilva: i shall determine the best course of action. i agree with phillw that there's no reason why you shouldn't get approved. start the process and get your name on the list.
[22:35] <phillw> gsilva: indeed, and i will help. We await he from above to decide if we go for Qt in 15.10
[22:36] <phillw> tech board rules mean if we want a 16.04 Qt edition, we must have a 15.10 Qt edition
[22:37] <gsilva> Yet, if this is not the best time, then I can wait, no worries :) I'm not here for the membership only :P
[22:37] <phillw> gsilva: you go for it... you are worthy of it.
[22:37] <wxl> don't wait
[22:37] <wxl> just do it
[22:37] <wxl> it doesn't take much but the waiting sure takes a while
[22:37] <wxl> my meeting is the 2200 one fwiw
[22:38] <phillw> i did mine back to front... got ubuntu membership before ubuntu beginners team one :P
[22:39] <phillw> but, y'all know me... never one for the rules :D
[22:40] <gsilva> Okay, I will apply soon then
[22:40] <gsilva> And hope for the best :)
[22:40] <wxl> i don't think there's a reason to hope
[22:40] <wxl> it's pretty much for sure
[22:40] <wxl> regarding time, i would apply now
[22:40] <wxl> at least get your name on the list
[22:41] <phillw> gsilva: it's pretty much a given, with the fact of the work you can show you have done.
[22:41] <wxl> sign up here https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Membership/Boards
[22:41] <wxl> next 2200 meeting is may 22
[22:42] <wxl> Kamilion: if you want a challenge, figure this one out https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1446723
[22:42] <phillw> just keep your wiki up to date and they will kiss your pretty little ass and go 'welcome' (Not too sure if I'm allowed to say that, but you get the general idea)
[22:44] <phillw> wxl: not seen and did new install of 15.04 in malta onto a laptop
[22:45] <gsilva> Okay, I'll go through the process of application
[22:48] <phillw> I know my little vote does not count for a lot in the great scheme of things, but you will get a good write up off me.
[22:51] <phillw> go ask julian and ianorlin to also write testimonials for you and you have it nailed for next meeting. It has and remains a great pleasure to work with you on an area that is often pretty much the poor house of a flavour. You have brought life back into it, and for that I thank you.
[22:51] <gsilva> Thank you phillw :)
[22:52] <gsilva> I applied for membership. Feel free to write something over there https://wiki.ubuntu.com/gsilva (valid to you, ianorlin, Unit193)
[22:52] <gsilva> and perhaps some other guys I'm missing
[22:52] <Kamilion> hm
[22:53] <Kamilion> wxl: Out of scope; he says he's not running lubuntu.
[22:53] * phillw bends Kamilion over pulls his trousers down and spanks him until he writes something nice......
[22:53] <Kamilion> seems to be a polkit issue though
[22:53] <gsilva> haha
[22:54] <Kamilion> so if we resolve the underlying problem with polkit, I'm betting it'll probably work again
[22:54] <Kamilion> phillw: Sorry, no amount of spankings can get me to write with my hands. not even the UPS guy is that lucky.
[22:54] <phillw> interaction with polkit is being a real bitch :/
[22:54] <Kamilion> mind if I run it through the inkjet? ^_^
[22:55] <Kamilion> of course it is; setting policy is never easy
[22:55] <Kamilion> everyone wants their sandwich made a different way
[22:55] * Kamilion glares at the no-crusts people using VIM
[22:55] <phillw> Kamilion: i'll have ham and cheese.... what a good idea!
[22:56] <Kamilion> salted turkey with mayo on white.
[22:56] <Kamilion> so thanksgivingly delicious.
[22:57] <Kamilion> wxl: I serously don't think we can help this guy, when he says things like "Maybe this comes because I'm restricting the system and session bus of D-Bus. "
[22:57] <phillw> most likely going to be mature cheddar cheese and crunchy pea nut butter here :)
[22:57] <Kamilion> is LXDM even still supported?
[22:58] <ianorlin> we don't ship it but it is in repos
[22:58] <ianorlin> I don't think there has been much upstream development on it
[22:58] <Kamilion> so the answer would be 'mostly no' then
[22:58] <phillw> 'much' ... aka zilch
[22:59] <Kamilion> phillw: there's been a couple of upstream merges
[22:59] <Kamilion> notably, messing with the battery icon in the system tray.
[22:59] <phillw> it's not a won't fix, it is a never going to happen fix
[22:59] <Kamilion> unit and wxl were beating on that
[23:00] <Kamilion> nah, if sworddragon submits a patch that fixes it, it has a high chance of getting accepted for 15.10, or a SRU later in 15.04's life.
[23:00] <phillw> Kamilion: oh, pedantics,
[23:01] <Kamilion> [16:01:46] NickServ [NickServ@services.]: sworddragon is not registered.
[23:01] <Kamilion> Dangit.
[23:01] <phillw> 15.04 only lives for 9 months.... not going to have that many SRU's !
[23:01] <Kamilion> and no contact info on his LP
[23:01] <Kamilion> phillw: it BETTER
[23:01] <Kamilion> we have a 15.10 release to get 'right'
[23:01] <Kamilion> and then a short jump to LTS 16.04
[23:02] <Kamilion> there's also a number of respins that periodically update their ISOs when packages change
[23:02] <phillw> Kamilion: we have 15.10 to decide if Qt or not Qt .... that is the only Qt
[23:02] <Kamilion> For example, the xen XSA security issues, there was a SRU for, and I had to rebuild my ISOs
[23:03] <Kamilion> phillw: BS; if they can't coexist, someone's a poor programmer who needs to be taught better ;)
[23:03] <ianorlin> um lxde session and lxqt can coexsit but there julien got into some wierd config file problem
[23:03] <Kamilion> (offense not intended)
[23:04] <Kamilion> is Julien doing most of the dev on lxqt himself?
[23:04] <Kamilion> or is that occuring upstream from us?
[23:04] <ianorlin> upstream
[23:04] <Kamilion> in jessie?
[23:04] <ianorlin> no in upstream lxqt
[23:04] <ianorlin> jessie won't have lxqt
[23:05] <ianorlin> and stuff getting frozen for jessie meant hard to add new packages in and stuff but I am not too sure of these conversations
[23:05] <phillw> Kamilion: 16.04 comes out and I have to respin the blooming non-pae kernel again ...... what 'fun' that is as one of the teams wants the 'live cd' version of what ever kernel it is .... https://wiki.ubuntu.com/phillw/non-pae
[23:05] <Kamilion> and is lxqt part of the lxde project, or is it a spinoff from another developer?
[23:05] <phillw> Kamilion: you want to do it next time?
[23:05] <ianorlin> it merged with lxde and razor-qt
[23:05] <Kamilion> phillw: I can't.
[23:06] <Kamilion> I don't have a single piece of non-pae hardware
[23:06] <Kamilion> so even if I could build it; I couldn't *test* it
[23:06] <Kamilion> but I'm more than happy to help!
[23:07] <Kamilion> I have nothing older than a 2004 pentium 4 "d", from just before the 'core' stuff coming out
[23:07] <phillw> nor do i... it builds on a VM
[23:07] <Kamilion> and even that's 64bit
[23:07] <Kamilion> although it doesn't have HVM support
[23:08] <ianorlin> I have some pentium 4s but I don't want to use them because they are power hogs
[23:08] <phillw> but, as last one was okay, i keep a little VM just for this task.
[23:08] * Kamilion thinks
[23:08] <Kamilion> ianorlin: what I'm saying is, all of my CPUs are AMD64 instruction set, and wouldn't require PAE in any case.
[23:08] <Kamilion> I have no ia32s left
[23:09] <Kamilion> not even my oldest laptop (A dell latitude D820) is 32bit...
[23:09] <Kamilion> so I can verify the kernel boots on newer hw
[23:09] <Kamilion> but I'll be unable to verify the PAE or fakePAE functionality
[23:09] <ianorlin> Kamilion: understood
[23:09] <Kamilion> thus; gather me some testerfolks with PAE-required, and I'll work with 'em.
[23:09] <phillw> I said I'd only do it each LTS !
[23:10] <Kamilion> phillw: if you can document the previous process; I can automate it to a degree.
[23:10] <Kamilion> and I don't mean 'fancy documentation'
[23:10] <Kamilion> just a plaintext file is fine
[23:11] <Kamilion> and I can read typo fine
[23:11] <ianorlin> unless we can convince some canonical to support the non-pae iot things that don't have pae like edison and other stuff to get a nonpae because they seem to like new and shiny
[23:11] <Kamilion> no need
[23:11] <Kamilion> anything like that is gonna need custom images built anyway
[23:11] <Kamilion> edison has no SATA/IDE
[23:11] <phillw> Kamilion: I think i need an extra bit, which melodie can tell me so you can do a live CD image, unless they have now fixed that bug......
[23:11] <Kamilion> all you get is the 4GB eMMC chip, which the MTD driver of the kernel will use
[23:12] <Kamilion> so you get /dev/mmc0p1
[23:12] <Kamilion> and friends
[23:12] <Kamilion> and I agree, there are a number of SoCs that don't include PAE support
[23:12] <Kamilion> but
[23:12] <phillw> but, that is two release cycles away :D
[23:12] <Kamilion> NONE OF THEM SUPPORT MORE THAN 4GB OF RAM FOR PAE SUPPORT TO EVEN MAKE *SENSE*
[23:13] <Kamilion> Page Address Extensions are supposed to be allowing older 32bit only chips to access 48bit memory addresses so they can talk to wither 64GB or 128GB (depending on hw implimentation)
[23:14] <phillw> We can do a non -pae kernel, the extra bits are bit of a pain (aufs, from memory)
[23:14] <Kamilion> I thought we use unionfs now, not aufs
[23:14] <phillw> no idea.... last kernel was the 14.04 one
[23:14] <Kamilion> hehe
[23:15] <Kamilion> well, no worries
[23:15] <Kamilion> I agree with the intent
[23:15] <Kamilion> i486 is still around on SoCs too, but we don't support that anymore either.
[23:15] <phillw> I only build the bloody thing, who mentioned support? :P
[23:15] <Kamilion> so far as I know, our minimum requirements are i686
[23:15] <Kamilion> Pentium Pro and above
[23:16] <Kamilion> i586 "Pentium MMX" need not apply
[23:16] <Kamilion> but anybody on a 200Mhz 486 core is gonna be hurtin' anyway
[23:17] <phillw> i did ask about 486 586, I'd have to re compile the entire database of installed applications and maintain them......
[23:17] <Kamilion> IIRC we've also totally lost i386 support entirely
[23:17] <phillw> a bridge too far for me
[23:17] <Kamilion> the linux kernel requires at least a 486DX series now, I think
[23:18] <Kamilion> aye; and there's a bunch of projects that still cater to that
[23:18] <Kamilion> stuff like tinycorelinux
[23:18] <Kamilion> where they've REALLY trimmed the fat
[23:19] <phillw> or 10.04 lubuntu ... just do not shout about it. That was as we became official
[23:19] <Kamilion> Honestly though? When you can buy a quad core ARM for $40...
[23:19] <Kamilion> http://www.hardkernel.com/main/products/prdt_info.php?g_code=G141578608433
[23:20] <Kamilion> You'll save more money in *power* by spending a few bucks on one of these once; and it will outperform or perform on par with any of the non-pae CPUs
[23:20] <Kamilion> which, last I knew, peaked out somewhere around 800Mhz
[23:21] <Kamilion> there might be an odd celeron chip that hit 1Ghz or 1.2Ghz; but that would be a rare expectation
[23:21] <Kamilion> most of the pentium 3 series was centered in the 500-900Mhz range
[23:21] <Kamilion> pentium4s were the arch that finally hit 2Ghz
[23:21] <wxl> Kamilion: yeah i kind of meant it as a joke :)
[23:21] <Kamilion> oh.
[23:22] <Kamilion> wxl: Well, I think he can be helped eventually; just not in time for release
[23:22] <Kamilion> to his credit, he did raise the issues in febuary
[23:22] <wxl> Kamilion: oh well release is over, so :)
[23:22] <Kamilion> so it was kind of ball-in-our-court anyway
[23:22] <Kamilion> oh?
[23:22] <wxl> yeah mostly i'm drowning in bugs
[23:23] <Kamilion> it's not the 26th yet, is it?
[23:23] <wxl> 23rd my friend
[23:23] <wxl> didn't you see the post on the mailing list?
[23:23] <Kamilion> [16:23:53] <Kamilion> oh?
[23:23] <Kamilion> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/VividVervet/ReleaseSchedule
[23:23] <Kamilion> I could have SWORN that said 26th
[23:23] <Kamilion> but I'm wrong.
[23:25] <Kamilion> ... uhhh, what the heck
[23:25] <Kamilion> http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/lubuntu/releases/14.10/release/lubuntu-15.04-desktop-amd64.iso <--- wut
[23:25] * ianorlin doesn't know either
[23:26] <ianorlin> Kamilion: understood
[23:26] <ianorlin> oops
[23:26] <ianorlin> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/pcmanfm/+bug/1445254/+attachment/4377882/+files/2015-04-16-153442_1366x768_scrot.png
[23:26] <Kamilion> that is somewhat correct
[23:26] <Kamilion> .mod files are amiga music files.
[23:26] <Kamilion> I used to create them.
[23:27] <Kamilion> why isn't it checking the MIME type though?
[23:27] <Kamilion> it should have failed the check to read an amiga module header
[23:28] <ianorlin> yeah mim type show it as executable
[23:28] <wxl> !isitout
[23:28] <Kamilion> too late, already downloaded it
[23:28] * Kamilion shoves his HTTP downloads into the torrent client
[23:29] <wxl> wait where is that link at?
[23:29] <Kamilion> lubuntu.net's homepage.
[23:29] <wxl> oh
[23:29] <wxl> well
[23:29] <wxl> no one except mario has access to it
[23:29] <wxl> anmd honestly i've never spoke to him
[23:29] <wxl> even when i tried
[23:30] <Kamilion> it's working, so I'm not complaining, just pointing out, "... wut?!"
[23:32] <Kamilion> ... oh. So thaaaat's what broke my ceph.
[23:32] <Kamilion> Thanks, openstack. *sigh*
[23:32] <wxl> hm?
[23:37] <phillw> Kamilion: serves you right for not running centos
[23:40] <Kamilion> Trading one headache for another? I'll pass, thanks.
[23:40] <Kamilion> I want my PPAs, damnit.
[23:41] <Kamilion> i do NOT want to deal with rpmforge, EPEL, REMI, ATrpms, Webtatic, or anything like that. If I wanted that kind of workflow, I'd be installing packages from OMGUBUNTU.co.uk
[23:42] <Kamilion> I despise RPM with a burning hatred
[23:42] <Kamilion> the rest of RHEL/Cent, I'm indifferent to.
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2015-04-23-#ubuntu+1
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[00:42] <bandit-led> any ideas on building dkms modules on kernel 4+ and nvidia?
[04:45] <tesla909> When will release ubuntu 15.04 stable?
[04:46] <lotuspsychje> today
[04:46] <tesla909> I didn't find any download link in official site yet.
[04:51] <lotuspsychje> tesla909: its not officially out yet, idle here and watch topic in #ubuntu today
[05:26] <MonkeyDust> If you want to share the internet connection of your Ubuntu machine with other machines in the network see
[06:02] <tijnix> morning
[06:22] <lotuspsychje> tijnix: morning
[07:45] <lordievader> Good morning.
[08:34] <tijnix> morning lordievader
[08:36] <lordievader> Hey tijnix, how are you?
[08:37] <tijnix> Fine thanks, fiddling with some ldap migrations, hows you?
[08:37] <lordievader> Doing good here, reading some news.
[08:58] <tijnix> Hmm when was U15 server due for release? sorry for the lazyness...
[08:58] <k1l> u15?
[08:58] <tijnix> Ubuntu
[08:58] <k1l> you mean ubutnu 15.04?
[08:58] <tijnix> Yups
[08:58] <k1l> same time when the desktop is released
[08:59] <k1l> its the same codebase, so it doesnt make sense to split that
[08:59] <tijnix> K cause i only get a 'go' for some server upgrades when its official :)
[09:38] <Blizzz> firefox does not start for me anymore (did not try to reboot, because it takes so long…). Basically "(process:23669): GLib-CRITICAL **: g_slice_set_config: assertion 'sys_page_size == 0' failed" is everything i get in command line. Starting in safe mode does not help, no difference.
[10:46] <pero> hi
[10:51] <BluesKaj> Howdy all
[10:54] <tijnix> hi
[11:06] <pero> bye
[11:51] <phpcoder> hello
[11:51] <phpcoder> where can i download the new 15.04?
[11:53] <k1l> phpcoder: its not released yet. so load the last daily and install that
[11:53] <phpcoder> k1l, i would like to upgrade it via repository
[11:53] <phpcoder> can i do it?
[11:54] <phpcoder> however i think in the next few hours
[11:54] <phpcoder> no?
[11:54] <k1l> its not released yet. so you need the developer switch
[11:54] <k1l> just wait some hours until its released.
[11:56] <phpcoder> ok
[11:56] <phpcoder> today no?
[11:56] <phpcoder> yes i am download it this night
[11:57] <k1l> what is your question?
[11:57] <phpcoder> k1l, ti will be released today right?
[11:57] <k1l> yes
[11:58] <phpcoder> i hink this nigth wil be available
[11:58] <phpcoder> now 2 pm here :)
[11:58] <k1l> last times it was sometime in the afternoon. see #ubuntu-release-party for the announcement
[11:59] <phpcoder> ok
[12:16] <mparillo> Aiming for mid-afternoon London time, ish.
[12:17] <k1l> at that time everyone should be awake and sober again from last nights pre-release-drinking :)
[14:47] <slyrus> Ok... now I've done it. Tried to upgrade and have two problems. 1. ubuntu desktop crashes on startup (can log in w/ xfce or ubuntustudio sessions)
[14:47] <slyrus> and 2. ctrl-alt-f2 gives me a non functioning terminal window
[14:47] <slyrus> (and possibly 3. how can I revert from my custom kernel and go back to to the default 15.04-supplied kernel?)
[14:50] <BluesKaj> slyrus, uhm , probly advisable since custom kernels don't upgrade with the desult kernels
[14:50] <BluesKaj> default
[14:51] <slyrus> right, so how do I get back to the distro-supplied kernel?
[14:53] <lordievader> slyrus: Install the package and update your grub config.
[14:56] <slyrus> apt-get install linux-image tells me that "linux-image has no installation candidate"
[15:16] <slyrus> is there a way can find the package name of the kernel, image, modules, and headers packages I need to reinstall to get back to the stock setting?
[15:17] <slyrus> I have my doubts to the root of my problems being with the kernel, but going back to the stock version is still probably the right first step...
[15:19] <slyrus> new or old kernel, it would be nice to have my ctrl-alt-f[1,2,...] terminal back:(
[15:24] <slyrus> yay. got my terminal back.
[15:27] <slyrus> and reinstalling the nvidia drivers gives me back a unity session, but with no window manager
[15:29] <link123> I have asus vivobook, someone find out issues in new ubuntu?
[15:31] <slyrus> ah, there we go... ccsm to enable the unity plugin and I'm back in business.
[15:33] <pero> hi
[15:46] <pero> bye
[15:57] <Dreaman> nikolov@ubuntu-ivan:~$ inxi -F
[15:57] <Dreaman> System: Host: ubuntu-ivan Kernel: 3.19.0-15-generic i686 (32 bit)
[15:57] <Dreaman> Desktop: Unity 7.3.2 Distro: Ubuntu 15.04 vivid
[15:57] <Dreaman> :)
[16:07] <Aero> Hi.
[16:23] <Aero> I get an error saying "Dependency is not satisfiable: libgcrypt11 (>= 1.4.5)" when I try to install this thing.
[16:23] <Aero> What version does vivid use?
[16:26] <MoonUnit`> .20
[16:26] <MoonUnit`> had that problem with spotify, downloaded the utopic .11 version and installed it.
[16:29] <Aero> Yeah, my thing installed fine in Utopic.
[16:30] <MoonUnit`> http://packages.ubuntu.com/utopic/libgcrypt11
[16:59] <Aero> Thanks MoonUnit`.
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2015-04-23-#maas
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[12:20] <mup> Bug #1447573 was opened: [0-day SRU] maas needs to use python-django16 instead of 1.7 <maas (Ubuntu):New> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1447573>
[12:51] <mup> Bug #1446878 was opened: maas django app won't start "ImportError: No module named apt_pkg" <MAAS:Fix Committed by mpontillo> <MAAS 1.7:In Progress by andreserl> <maas (Ubuntu):In Progress by andreserl> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1446878>
[12:51] <mup> Bug #1447583 was opened: The background of the owner column on the node listing page stays grey <ui> <MAAS:Triaged> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1447583>
[16:03] <mup> Bug #1447681 was opened: 1.8b3 Zones on "zone" page doesn't match zones on "node listing" <ui> <MAAS:New> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1447681>
[17:15] <mup> Bug #1447709 was opened: 1.8b3: Selections should be cleared when not displayed in list of filtered nodes or server should always be displayed until deselected <oil> <MAAS:New> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1447709>
[17:45] <mup> Bug #1447681 changed: 1.8b3 Zones on "zone" page doesn't match zones on "node listing" <ui> <MAAS:Won't Fix> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1447681>
[17:45] <mup> Bug #1447728 was opened: 1.8beta3: regiond and clusterd logs are rotated out too quickly <oil> <MAAS:New> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1447728>
[18:09] <mup> Bug #1446625 changed: package maas-region-controller 1.7.3+bzr3363-0ubuntu1 failed to install/upgrade: subprocess installed post-installation script returned
[18:09] <mup> error exit status 1 <amd64> <apport-package> <third-party-packages> <vivid> <maas (Ubuntu):In Progress by andreserl> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1446625>
[18:09] <mup> Bug #1447736 was opened: Node isn't removed from the node listing when it becomes non-visible <ui> <websockets> <MAAS:Triaged> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1447736>
[18:09] <mup> Bug #1447739 was opened: Node isn't added to the node listing when it becomes visible <ui> <websockets> <MAAS:New> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1447739>
[18:57] <mup> Bug #1447758 was opened: 1.8b3 Can't assign zones to deployed machines <ui> <MAAS:New> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1447758>
[19:02] <VijayT_> hello
[19:02] <VijayT_> I am trying to commission nodes through MaaS
[19:02] <VijayT_> and I need to change my default ntp server from ntp.ubuntu.com to my server. i have made appropriate changes in preseeds_master file
[19:03] <VijayT_> after this also I notice that nodes after deployment do not get synced to my server. infact I error "ntpdate[884]: no server suitable for synchronization found" in syslog
[19:03] <VijayT_> is there any other setting I need to change
[19:27] <mup> Bug #1447783 was opened: 1.8b3 Failed deployment/release timeout <landscape> <power> <MAAS:New> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1447783>
[19:57] <mup> Bug #1447783 changed: 1.8b3 Failed deployment/release timeout <landscape> <power> <MAAS:New> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1447783>
[22:16] <mup> Bug #1447828 was opened: 1.8b3 number of nodes per zone on zones page inaccurate <ui> <MAAS:New> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1447828>
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2015-04-23-#ubuntu-us-mn
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[17:29] <MrNumber3isme> Hello Room
[17:29] <MrNumber3isme> I need help with a permissions issue involving my SD card. any thoughts?
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"authors": [
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2015-04-23-#ubuntu-fi
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[05:36] <Mirv> gnome2:han taitaa olla oikein, kun oli Compiz-tuesta kyse? gnome3:haanhan tehtiin oma Mutter puhtaalta pöydältä (tosin Clutteria käyttäen).
[05:36] <Mirv> toki compizin gnome2-integraatiota tuskin kukaan enää käyttää :)
[05:37] <Mirv> kyllähän kai osa ajaa Gnome 3:takin Compizilla sikäli kun tiettyä window manageria ei ole täysin pakotettu, mutta Shell vaatinee mutterin
[05:38] <Mirv> noita nVidia-korjauksia on tulossa myös 14.04 LTS:ään btw
[05:48] <Mirv> tai juuri tuli kai yksi compiz-päivitys päiväyksellä 20150313
[06:20] <rhkfin> Mitenkäs Ubuntun roadmap - Wayland-suunnitelmat taisivat jäädä hyllylle? Mikä tuli tilalle?
[06:23] <Tm_T> rhkfin: Mir on ollut käytössä
[06:26] <mjr> Mir :(
[06:38] <rhkfin> lubotu3`: Mir
[06:38] <lubotu3`> Mir is the next-generation display server currently under development by Canonical and Ubuntu. It's slated for inclusion in Ubuntu 14.04. For more information on it, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Mir/Spec . For code, see https://launchpad.net/mir
[06:38] <rhkfin> UU, osasin.
[06:39] <rhkfin> vai sellaista.
[06:49] <Mikaela> toimiikohan sillä redshift. Jollalla on wayland ja ei toimi.
[06:56] <rhkfin> lubotu3`: redshift
[06:57] <rhkfin> :(
[06:58] <Tm_T> Mikaela: väitän että ei
[06:59] <Mikaela> :(
[06:59] <Tm_T> voisin kokeilla jahka starttaan miriä missään
[06:59] <Mikaela> redshift on ohjelma, joka muuttaa ruudun värilämpötilaa auringon mukaan, kuten f.lux ja Androidin Twilight ja mit näitä muita on
[06:59] <Tm_T> missä olisi redshift
[07:00] <Tm_T> mulla KDE:n puolella on redshift ollut ahkerassa käytössä
[07:32] <rhkfin> oho, jännä. Osaako käyttää weppikameraa valoisuuden muutosten seurantaan vai ihan vaan kellon ja auringon sijaintitietojen mukaan?
[07:33] <Tm_T> rhkfin: no se on juurikin vuorokauden aikaan ja sijaintiin liittyvä
[07:33] <Tm_T> ts tuetaan biologista kelloa
[07:33] <rhkfin> säätila?
[07:33] <rhkfin> aka. pilvisyys
[07:33] <Tm_T> ei välitä, tuo ei ole "mukauta valoisuus olosuhteisiin" vaan "mukauta värilämpötila luonnolliseen sykliin"
[07:33] <rhkfin> oke
[07:34] <Tm_T> toimii sangen hyvin (:
[07:38] <elias_a> Miten se vaikuttaa?
[07:38] <elias_a> Kuumottaa sopivasti käämi koko päivän?
[07:39] <rhkfin> http://jonls.dk/redshift/
[07:40] <elias_a> Niin - miten se vaikuttaa?
[07:40] <elias_a> Tuolla on vain maininta, että ei satu silmiin mahdollisesti niin paljon.
[07:40] <elias_a> Onko noin?
[07:41] <rhkfin> "
[07:41] <rhkfin>
[07:41] <rhkfin> I have been using f.lux for some time now and it is a really nice tool. It adjusts the color temperature of the screen at night to a more reddish tone which greatly reduces the strain on the eyes. It takes a while to get used to the red tint but now there is no going back.
[07:43] <rhkfin> https://justgetflux.com/research.html
[07:43] <rhkfin> Tuolla on kaikenlaisia 'tuloksia'
[07:45] <ansa> joo, flux on kyllä kiva, käytän omppuläppärillä kun sitä tulee iltaisinkin vielä pidettyä auki
[07:46] <elias_a> Pitäisköhän tuota kokeilla.
[07:46] <rhkfin> androiTwilight puhelimeen kokeiluun :)
[07:46] <rhkfin> siis ihan vaan twilight
[07:47] <elias_a> Mikäs ton redshiftin lisenssi on?
[07:48] <ansa> rhkfin, pitääpä kokeilla, puhelin näyttää ihan törkeän kirkkaalta jos sitä pimeällä vilkaisee
[07:49] <rhkfin> elias_a: hyvä kysymys. Source on githubissa mutta.. ?
[07:50] <elias_a> Mä koitin sitä vastausta oikeasti vähän etsiäkin...
[07:54] <ansa> https://github.com/jonls/redshift/blob/master/COPYING - ei tuo lisenssi nyt kovin pahasti ole piilotettu
[08:34] <elias_a> ansa: Kiitos!
[08:34] <pesasa> elias_a: http://viikonvalo.fi/Redshift
[08:34] <elias_a> pesasa: Heh. :)
[08:38] <Mikaela> kirjoittaja siis asuu Porin lento-asemalla
[08:42] <elias_a> Mikaela: Nyt meni ohi...
[08:47] <Mikaela> elias_a: koordinaatit https://www.google.fi/maps/place/61%C2%B028'00.0%22N+21%C2%B048'00.0%22E/@61.4634894,21.8006642,12z/data=!4m2!3m1!1s0x0:0x0
[08:49] <elias_a> Niin mitkä koordinaatit?
[08:50] <Mikaela> gtk-redshift -l 61.466667:21.799999 sivulta http://viikonvalo.fi/Redshift
[08:51] <pesasa> tale on porilainen.
[11:18] <tabasko> mites jos bindissä ottaa dnssecin käyttöön, pitääkö kaikissa domaineissa olla sen jälkeen dnssec?
[11:18] <tabasko> tuskin?
[12:10] <Mikaela> ei tarvitse
[12:10] <Mikaela> ellei bind tee jotakin ihmeellisempää, minulla on Unbound käytössä DNSSECillä
[12:11] <Mikaela> tai nyt en ole varma mitä teet bindillä, minulla unbound on vain välimuistina ja varmistamassa DNSSECiä siinä sivussa
[18:44] <elias_a> Tännekin: http://arstechnica.com/security/2015/04/wi-fi-software-security-bug-could-leave-android-windows-linux-open-to-attack/
[18:49] <puhuri> tuon jutun perusteella ongelmia vain, jos käyttää ad-hoc moodissa
[18:50] <puhuri> eli normaalissa infrastruktuurimoodissa pitäisi olla pituudet tarkistettu
[19:47] <Mikaela> näköhään on nyt ilmestynyt security-repoon. (miksi Ubuntu Serverillä on wpasupplicant?)
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2015-04-23-#ubuntu-unity
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[05:39] <Mirv> bregma: it seems even the newest 14.04 LTS compiz update is stopped :( http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/phased-updates.html I remember the last time there was a big line of Problems, now after the blacklist adding there's just one
[05:39] <Mirv> bregma: but you'll need to chat with release team on how to proceed if it's wanted to be spread
[07:42] <Mirv> Saviq: tsdgeos: I've made a sidenote about https://codereview.qt-project.org/#/c/109756 - do you plan to "formally" ask me about landing it, or is the plan still to rather backport the bigger Provider part?
[07:43] <tsdgeos> Mirv: no because we asked you to land the bigger async provider part (or did we not?)
[07:43] <Saviq> we did
[07:44] <Saviq> bug #1439263
[07:44] <Mirv> tsdgeos: you haven't really, the bug #1439263 mentions it should be backported and as a comment it's mentioned that that MP brings fix for http stalling without anything else, but there's no clear asking what to do
[07:45] <Saviq> Mirv, what else do you want us to write? :D
[07:46] <Mirv> Saviq: like, whether to take https://codereview.qt-project.org/#/c/108540/ or https://codereview.qt-project.org/#/c/109756 :)
[07:46] <Mirv> since now both are mentioned in the same bug
[07:46] <Saviq> Mirv, my bad wording
[07:47] <Saviq> Mirv, because we don't have a separate bug for http stalling
[07:47] <Mirv> Saviq: oh, so both would be needed? I somehow thought thet asyncprovider would solve the problem.
[07:47] <Saviq> Mirv, updated the comment ;)
[07:47] <Mirv> ok, so no both :)
[07:47] <Saviq> Mirv, no :)
[07:48] <Mirv> clear! I'll start a landing for that + the thumbnailer branch
[07:50] <tsdgeos> Mirv: wait wait, the thumbnailer branch is not ready
[07:50] <Mirv> tsdgeos: I know it's not ready, I'm not going to _land_ it
[07:51] <Mirv> just rebasing/testing the qtdeclarative part
[07:51] <Mirv> tsdgeos: perks of being on the landing team, silos for free! :)
[07:51] <tsdgeos> k
[08:02] <Mirv> weird, that yesterday's unity8 landing that the PPA decided to show complete qml-phone-shell changelog for...
[08:02] <Mirv> if it happens again there must be some new LP bug
[08:05] <Mirv> FYI https://codereview.qt-project.org/#/c/110910/ solved my Qt 5.5 blocker problem so I've been able to go forward with testing 5.5 alpha more (builds only, because of qtmir)
[08:13] <tsdgeos> Mirv: what's with qtmir? crashes? doesn't build?
[08:14] <Mirv> tsdgeos: I filed this a month ago https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/qtmir/+bug/1437181 saviq looked it into a bit and I remember the change indicates it's not a simple build problem but requires some changes
[08:14] <Saviq> there's been a change to how the scenegraph profiler is to be used
[08:17] <tsdgeos> right
[08:17] <tsdgeos> at worst for testing you could just comment those lines
[08:17] <tsdgeos> since it doesn't do anything else than ehlp profiling
[08:17] <tsdgeos> Mirv: ↑↑↑
[08:21] <Mirv> tsdgeos: oh, ok, good info, thanks!
[08:37] <Mirv> tsdgeos: hmm, it's possible there's DBus activity in adding Ubuntu One account that gets worse with the 018 silo https://trello.com/c/doDBpNlq/1428-ubuntu-landing-018-qtbase-opensource-src-qtbase-opensource-src-gles-mirv - I saw that too, but I thought I reproduced that without the PPA but maybe it was different
[08:38] <tsdgeos> Mirv: it's possible, no idea what the ubuntuone or accounts system does tbh
[08:42] <Mirv> tsdgeos: I think the problem described is actual app installation. I did reproduce that adding U1 account was problematic, but I did not see problems with app installation possibly because I flashed clean + added new account
[08:43] <Mirv> (and adding U1 account was problematic without the PPA too)
[08:43] <Mirv> I don't know about what happens with app installation either
[08:53] <Mirv> (asking on #ubuntu-touch)
[09:06] <tsdgeos> MacSlow: you didn't run into that yesterday but we did a landing yesterday
[09:06] <tsdgeos> so it makes sense :D
[09:07] <MacSlow> tsdgeos, yeah.. I guess so... just wish I didn't have to babysit that branch until the needed update for libunity-api-dev lands... so Jenkins can move on... and also provide an approve-stamp :)
[09:08] <MacSlow> tsdgeos, that branch is like a never-ending story for me :)
[09:08] <tsdgeos> yaeh i can feel the pain of long branches
[09:09] <tsdgeos> MacSlow: actually i think some of the merge issues come from the parent
[09:09] <tsdgeos> so make sure you fix those first
[09:09] <MacSlow> tsdgeos, you mean lp:~unity-team/unity8/shellRotation
[09:09] <tsdgeos> yes
[09:10] <MacSlow> tsdgeos, yes... debian/changelog, debian/control and tests/plugins/Unity/Launcher/CMakeLists.txt at least
[09:22] <tsdgeos> MacSlow: well i wrote it in that branch MR :)
[09:52] <Saviq> /food
[10:26] <greyback> Mirv: sorry for the delay: https://code.launchpad.net/~gerboland/qtmir/qt55-compat/+merge/257235
[10:27] <greyback> tsdgeos: fancy giving it a quick look^^
[10:28] <tsdgeos> greyback: so dropped the profiling?
[10:28] <tsdgeos> it's really not useful?
[10:28] <greyback> tsdgeos: yeah, it always printed 0. binding a texture is a really cheap
[10:28] <tsdgeos> k
[10:28] <tsdgeos> let me compile it in case it fails somewhere else
[10:45] <tsdgeos> greyback: all good
[10:45] <greyback> tsdgeos: thanks
[11:13] <sidi_> Saviq, i figured a lot of the stuff I was pestering you about was on https://unity.ubuntu.com/getinvolved/development/unity/ Would be great to have this page in the topic
[11:14] <Saviq> sidi_, unity.ubuntu.com is there in the topic, and there's a "Get Involved" link there...
[11:15] <sidi_> well, that's fair enough
[11:30] <Mirv> greyback: thanks! not the biggest priority anyway, I'm just happy I'm early in doing these build tests myself this time.
[11:31] <Mirv> and now when I have time at some point I can even try to see if the phone runs with 5.5! maybe next week.
[11:31] <Mirv> and for the first time my build tests are truly covering all non-required rebuilds too, and I already found about 5 such FTBFS:s
[11:36] <tsdgeos> MacSlow|lunch: yeah QObject was removed from some big global include which makes some stuff not compile
[11:36] <tsdgeos> should be trivial to get back into compiling
[11:38] <Saviq> tsdgeos, you meant Mirv ↑?
[11:38] <tsdgeos> i did :D
[11:38] <tsdgeos> i.e. http://cgit.freedesktop.org/telepathy/telepathy-qt/commit/?id=494a955128a193382a698ee3d71071d8ff8388e9
[11:41] <Mirv> :)
[11:42] <Mirv> tsdgeos: right, I hinted towards your adding of it to unity8 in a couple of the bug reports that seemed clearly to be similar to that
[11:42] <Mirv> then there's also some possibly more tricky bugs, but on the other hand it's Alpha we're talking about..
[11:43] <Mirv> in a parallel universe when Qt releases on time Beta was released March 12th, but sadly in this universe we're still at Alpha
[11:43] <tsdgeos> Mirv: yeah for sure there's a crasher in one of unity8 tests
[11:43] <tsdgeos> but let's wait for the beta before complinign more
[11:43] <Mirv> (https://wiki.qt.io/Qt-5.5-release)
[13:22] <Saviq> mzanetti, I can has a review of the last commit in https://code.launchpad.net/~unity-team/unity8/homeKey/+merge/257254
[13:23] <mzanetti> sure
[13:31] <mzanetti> Saviq, haven't tested it yet, but reading through it, it seems a long-press of the button would not bring you to home any more
[13:31] <mzanetti> intentional?
[13:31] <Saviq> mzanetti, yes
[13:31] <Saviq> mzanetti, it just built in silo 25 if you want to test
[13:31] <mzanetti> ah cool, yes, I will
[13:31] <mzanetti> Saviq, but why not having it working on longpress?
[13:32] <mzanetti> i.e. starting the timer if not running on release
[13:32] <Saviq> mzanetti, because by then you started a lazy bottom swipe
[13:33] <Saviq> mzanetti, ah I know what you mean
[13:33] <mzanetti> Saviq, not that I want that. just thinking out loud if it wouldn't make sense
[13:34] <Saviq> mzanetti, but I think we'll leave long-press for a different use case, we only care about tap today, and I wouldn't like to introduce a long press people might get used to
[13:34] <mzanetti> Saviq, fair enough
[13:34] <Saviq> mzanetti, you'll need to boot the kernel from https://chinstrap.canonical.com/~okubik/tangxi/boot.img
[13:34] <Saviq> mzanetti, (fastboot boot boot.img)
[13:34] <mzanetti> Saviq, hinting the bottom edge onPress would be cool :)
[13:35] <Saviq> mzanetti, apps could do that, we're delivering the events to them anyway
[13:35] <mzanetti> oh. yeah, would need to be an app-thing
[13:35] <Saviq> mzanetti, but we'd need someone from design to actually look at this at all ;P
[13:35] <Saviq> firt
[13:35] <Saviq> *first
[13:36] <mzanetti> sure
[13:36] <Saviq> om26er, updated silo 25, it will only interpret taps now
[13:40] <om26er> Saviq, great, will get to it now
[13:50] <Saviq> mzanetti, oh and also, in this case we likely need to be a bit more granular between tap and long press because of the bottom edge (i.e. tap must be short, and long press acts immediately as soon as its threshold is reached)
[13:50] <Saviq> vs. tap being any press+release that's shorter than long press
[13:51] <mzanetti> yeah...
[13:52] <mzanetti> Saviq, tested. feels good
[13:53] <Saviq> mzanetti, tx, before, a very lazy bottom swipe would trigger dash, can you confirm that's not the case still? like that you really can't see anything unexpected happen (I can't)
[13:53] <mzanetti> confirmed
[13:54] <mzanetti> Saviq, I just notice that verly slow bottom edges work in apps but not in the dash :)
[13:54] <mzanetti> (yes, I know why - just didn't realize it so far)
[13:54] <Saviq> ;)
[13:54] <Saviq> we got a card for that :D
[13:54] <mzanetti> yep
[13:54] <mzanetti> Saviq, btw, new calculator app asked me on an ETA for that
[13:55] <mzanetti> Saviq, they have a problem that the bottom line of the the buttons is partially obscured by the bottom edge drag are
[13:55] <mzanetti> a
[13:55] <Saviq> right
[13:56] <mzanetti> I guess it's probably worth for them coming up with a workaround for now
[13:56] <mzanetti> might be a while until it really ends up in the SDK
[13:56] <Saviq> and in a stable image for that matter
[13:56] <Saviq> in a framework etc.
[13:56] <mzanetti> yeah
[13:57] <mzanetti> popey, ^
[13:57] <popey> wat?
[13:57] <mzanetti> calculator app, bottom edge
[13:57] <popey> kk
[13:57] <mzanetti> you better add some workaround for now
[13:57] <popey> ok
[13:57] <popey> thanks
[13:58] <Saviq> popey, it'll be new API in the SDK, so new framework etc.
[13:58] <popey> ok
[13:58] <Saviq> popey, or you guys can do what browser did
[13:58] <Saviq> popey, just copy the code from us
[13:58] <mzanetti> would get us some out-in-the-wild feedback
[14:01] <popey> what did the browser do?
[14:02] <mzanetti> popey, there's some classes that you could copy from the unity8 codebase so you'd have that special edge drag area available in calc
[14:02] <mzanetti> browser did that
[14:12] <popey> ok
[14:26] <tsdgeos> mzanetti: greyback: Saviq: i did a first take on https://code.launchpad.net/~aacid/unity8/suspend_screenshoting/+merge/257119 that afaics does everything that it should do, but some review would be nice :)
[14:26] <Saviq> tsdgeos, coolz
[14:26] <greyback> tsdgeos: nice. I can look at it later on this evening
[14:27] <Saviq> tsdgeos, one thing I'd ask for is some minimal docs
[14:27] <Saviq> doxygen style and all
[14:28] <tsdgeos> Saviq: for sessionscreenshoter.h ?
[14:28] <mterry> josharenson, latest jenkins for the greeter mode branch looks OK, right?
[14:28] <mterry> still 4 errors, but maybe not related?
[14:28] <Saviq> mterry, we only expect 3 errors these days
[14:29] <mterry> Saviq, humph
[14:29] <mterry> Saviq, ok good to know
[14:29] <Saviq> bug #1446846
[14:29] <mterry> Saviq, thanks
[14:29] <Saviq> (and complete FAILURE due to bug #1421009)
[14:29] <josharenson> mterry: my eyes are barely open, ill go take a look
[14:29] <mterry> josharenson, unity8.shell.tests.test_notifications.InteractiveNotificationBase.test_modal_sd_without_greeter is the new failure with your branch
[14:30] <josharenson> mterry: ah that sounds real :-/
[14:31] <josharenson> mterry: humm it passes locally...
[14:40] <Saviq> popey, if you decide to take the code, we have a few unlanded branches that will take the bottom edge bits closer to what will likely end up in the SDK, so please just talk to us when you're there
[14:54] <dandrader> Saviq, so you're saying that a long press should not show home?
[15:00] <dandrader> Saviq, it might be that the only way to "fix" this use case is adding even more delay to the button response
[15:00] <dandrader> Saviq, not sure this is really a bug
[15:00] <dandrader> Saviq, it's like trying to do a very lazy edge swipe. it won't work
[15:02] <Saviq> dandrader, already fixed
[15:02] <Saviq> dandrader, http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~unity-team/unity8/homeKey/revision/1738
[15:05] <Saviq> dandrader, and don't you have a public holiday today?
[15:05] <dandrader> Saviq, hmm... the light won't match activation though. but if people are happy
[15:05] <Saviq> dandrader, it really behaves better
[15:05] <dandrader> Saviq, it's a holiday in Rio only, and we get only national holidays, right?
[15:05] <Saviq> dandrader, tsdgeos disagrees ;)
[15:06] <dandrader> Saviq, hmm... tsdgeos tell me more :)
[15:06] <Saviq> dandrader, /me dunno, don't have any non-national ones
[15:06] <Saviq> dandrader, I think the deal is that you observe all the holidays that are observed by others in your area
[15:06] <tsdgeos> well i've been doing "barcelona holidays" since the beginning
[15:07] <dandrader> tsdgeos, ok, so we have a precedent! :D
[15:09] <dandrader> this week was unique. national holiday on Tuesday and local holiday on Thursday. local universities (those lazy bastards!) took the whole week off. My wife teaches in one of them. :)
[15:10] <dandrader> mterry, you should move to Rio ^^^
[15:10] <Saviq> dandrader, teachers have it like that ;)
[15:12] <Saviq> tsdgeos, btw, screenshoter surprisingly small, /me likes ;)
[15:12] <tsdgeos> yeah
[15:13] <Saviq> tsdgeos, what's the transition between screenshot and app right now? we were considering desaturating the screenshot so it's clear the app is not ready (if it's not in greyscale to begin with ;D)
[15:14] <mterry> dandrader, agreed!
[15:14] <tsdgeos> Saviq: it's "pixelated" since we only show an image with width/2 height/2 resolution
[15:14] <tsdgeos> it's not horrible as an indicator of "this is not the real app"
[15:15] <tsdgeos> could be better too
[15:16] <Saviq> on that note, I think we need to stop doing the /2, darken+desaturation will likely work better
[15:17] <Saviq> + ActivityIndicator
[15:18] <tsdgeos> Saviq: different MR though?
[15:18] <Saviq> tsdgeos, sure, could be
[15:18] <tsdgeos> pushed some docu, it's not great, but gives a basic grasp of what the thing does
[15:19] <Saviq> tsdgeos, btw, I'm starting to fall to "SessionGrabber", we already have a "ScreenGrabber"
[15:19] <Saviq> s/to/for/
[15:19] <tsdgeos> yeah
[15:19] <tsdgeos> that's the thing that actually saves screenshots for the user
[15:19] <Saviq> yup
[15:20] <Saviq> and it's grabToImage, too
[15:20] <tsdgeos> hmmm not really
[15:20] <tsdgeos> i mean kind of
[15:20] <tsdgeos> QImage screenshot = main_window->grabWindow();
[15:21] <Saviq> I mean on QQuickItem?
[15:21] <Saviq> http://doc.qt.io/qt-5/qquickitem.html#grabToImage
[15:21] * tsdgeos got lost
[15:21] <Saviq> tsdgeos, nvm, I'll write stuff on the MR
[15:21] <tsdgeos> :)
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2015-04-23-#ubuntustudio
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[08:15] <Sakrecoer> hi! i noticed that the lightbox.js files used by darktable when exporting to webgallery are missing in /usr/share/darktable/js/
[08:16] <Sakrecoer> its populated by symbolic links to /usr/share/javascript/
[08:16] <Sakrecoer> but there are no lightbox.js to be found in /usr/share/javascript/
[08:17] <Sakrecoer> only thing in /usr/share/darktable/js/ is a symbolic link "/usr/share/javascript/prototype.js" and "/usr/share//avascript/scriptaculous/scriptaculous.js"
[08:18] <Sakrecoer> this is on 14.04
[08:21] <Unit193> Debian 713974
[08:23] <Sakrecoer> thanks :)
[08:23] <Sakrecoer> i guess i'll try with the darktable ppa :)
[08:24] <Unit193> Except doesn't really help. :D
[08:24] <Unit193> !find lightbox.js
[08:26] <Sakrecoer> ubottu :) cute name for a bot <3
[08:26] <Sakrecoer> oh yes you are! don't be so modest! humans barely grasp the meaning of intelligence anyways :P
[08:26] * Sakrecoer flirts with ubottu
[08:27] <cfhowlett> ewwwwwwww
[08:27] <Sakrecoer> hehe
[08:29] <Sakrecoer> yeah.. adding darktable ppa is my sollution
[08:29] <Sakrecoer> :)
[08:34] * Sakrecoer waves o/~ ty guys! cya!
[09:35] <hans_> Got ubuntustudio 14.04.2 (???) and an M-Audio Audiophile USB
[09:36] <hans_> Audacity and various mixers see all the analog I/O of that sound card, but I really want to record from S/PDIF.
[09:37] <hans_> Correction, mixers and audacity see the analog inputs, all the analog outputs, and seems to see an spdif output.
[09:38] <hans_> But I want the spdif input, to copy stuff from an old DAT player.
[09:40] <hans_> uname -a
[09:41] <hans_> says Linux Liter 3.16.0-30-lowlatency #40~14.04.1-Ubuntu SMP PREEMPT Thu Jan 15 18:01:23 UTC 2015 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux
[10:04] <zequence> hans_: Try #opensourcemusicians for more help if no one answers you here
[10:10] <hans_> zequence, I found a doc Guide to using M-Audio Audiophile USB with ALSA and Jack v1.5
[10:10] <hans_> by Thibault Le Meur <[email protected]>
[10:11] <hans_> As a start, is that doc. still correct???
[10:11] <hans_> https://www.kernel.org/doc/Documentation/sound/alsa/Audiophile-Usb.txt
[10:13] <zequence> hans_: No idea. That is documentation done for the Linux kernel.
[10:14] <zequence> It was last updated 2007
[10:15] <zequence> Probably it is still valid. Don't think much of that has changed.
[13:38] <nazareno> Hola, necesito saber cómo grabar con Ardour
[13:39] <cfhowlett> !es | nazareno
[13:49] <nazareno> Hi, anyone knows recording music in Ardour?
[13:49] <cfhowlett> nazareno, #opensourcemusicians
[14:53] <L0chl4nn> can I completely purge dpkg and then reinstall it after? **Ubuntustudio 14.04.2**
[15:23] <holstein> L0chl4nn: sure
[15:23] <holstein> L0chl4nn: a better question might be relating to the overall goal you are trying to accomplish..
[15:25] <L0chl4nn> I just installed ubuntustudio fresh 2 days ago. I am getting countless errors when trying to install packages. Too many errors to list in fact. checksum was preformed on the image used to make a liveusb. After searching for hours on google and forums It has been concluded that apparently dpkg is only "half-installed". I was hoping it could be fixed properly, but all fixes I found have not worked.
[15:26] <holstein> L0chl4nn: shouldnt be related to dpkg in any way.. and installing the same version of it back won't likely address anything
[15:26] <L0chl4nn> after talking with some in #ubuntu I've since decided that it would likely be "best" to just do another fresh install since everything is already backed up
[15:26] <holstein> what i would do is, start over from the top of the chain
[15:26] <L0chl4nn> everything I have tried and researched points to dpkg not being properly installed itself which is what is causing all these errors.
[15:26] <holstein> i would test the machine.. the hard drive, and ram, which can change data.. then, i would look at my internet connection, which can affect that as well
[15:27] <L0chl4nn> pc system is perfect. no issues there.
[15:27] <holstein> L0chl4nn: when and how did you test the memory? and hard drive?
[15:27] <holstein> with the live iso?
[15:28] <holstein> anyways, what i suggest for you is, get in the larger upstream community of either main ubuntu or xubuntu
[15:28] <holstein> you can use #ubuntu and/or #xubuntu
[15:28] <L0chl4nn> I will just try the "fresh install" approach and see if the errors are reproduced. The only differences between this and any other time of installing any *nix variant are that I dl'd the image from torrent instead of direct. but I highly doubt that is the issue since the checksum was fine
[15:28] <holstein> there will be community memebers there that can help you with that, since, its not related to ubuntustudio
[15:29] <holstein> if you would like to work with me volunteering assistance, id be happy to move forward, but, making no assumptions, and starting again with a quick memory test and hard drive test
[15:29] <holstein> L0chl4nn: an easy way to download quickly and test..
[15:29] <holstein> !mini
[15:30] <holstein> you can then test that system,a nd whatever errors you seem to me saying you are having under whatever conditions you have not shared
[15:30] <holstein> this would be the quickest way to an install that you can also get support for, easily, in #ubuntu, which has more users
[15:31] <L0chl4nn> install medium is ready to go now. I shall keep you all updated
[15:32] <holstein> many red flags there..
[20:21] <Unit193> zequence: Done.
[20:21] <zequence> Unit193: Thanks :)
[20:22] <Unit193> Any time.
[23:31] <janier> hola a todos soy nuevo en linux
[23:31] <janier> como les va
[23:32] <Unit193> !es
[23:32] <janier> ok
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ubuntu-chat
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2015-04-23-#ubuntu-us-pa
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[09:37] <rmg51> Morning
[12:12] <teddy-dbear> Morning peoples, critters and everything else
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ubuntu-chat
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2024-05-13T22:11:16.757594
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2015-04-23-#ubuntu-news
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[15:29] <jose> adding vivid release announcement to the fridge
[16:16] <pleia2> thanks jose
[16:17] <jose> sure :)
[18:34] <ahoneybun> \o/
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ubuntu-chat
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2024-05-13T22:11:16.758419
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"jose",
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2015-04-23-#ubuntu-gr
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[02:24] <Euaki> Νέα από ubuntugrforum: Νέα - Ειδήσεις - Ανακοινώσεις | Re: Παρουσίαση στο Λονδίνο του πρώτου Ubuntu phone <https://forum.ubuntu-gr.org/viewtopic.php?p=326706#p326706> || Νέα - Ειδήσεις - Ανακοινώσεις | Re: Go η νέα γλώσσα προγραμματισμού της Google <https://forum.ubuntu-gr.org/viewtopic.php?p=326059#p326059> || Νέα - Ειδήσεις - Α
[08:07] <Euaki> Νέα από ubuntugrforum: Νέα - Ειδήσεις - Ανακοινώσεις | (Ανα)ζητείται προγραμματιστής <https://forum.ubuntu-gr.org/viewtopic.php?p=327142#p327142>
[08:10] <salih-emin> talos-mintgr, εδω ?
[08:37] <talos-mintgr> καλημέρα
[08:37] <talos-mintgr> salih-emin:
[08:38] <fanious> kallimereess!!
[08:39] <salih-emin> καλημέρα fanious
[08:39] <talos-mintgr> Καλημέρα
[13:48] <Euaki> Νέα από ubuntusecurity: USN-2576-1: usb-creator vulnerability <http://www.ubuntu.com/usn/usn-2576-1/>
[14:28] <Euaki> Νέα από ubuntusecurity: USN-2576-2: usb-creator vulnerability <http://www.ubuntu.com/usn/usn-2576-2/>
[15:28] <Euaki> Νέα από ubuntusecurity: USN-2577-1: wpa_supplicant vulnerability <http://www.ubuntu.com/usn/usn-2577-1/>
[15:54] <Euaki> Νέα από ubuntugrforum: Νέα - Ειδήσεις - Ανακοινώσεις | Re: (Ανα)ζητείται προγραμματιστής <https://forum.ubuntu-gr.org/viewtopic.php?p=327156#p327156>
[16:08] <Euaki> Νέα από ubuntugr: Το Ubuntu 15.04 Vivid Vervet είναι εδώ <http://www.ubuntu-gr.org/story/23-04-15/%CF%84%CE%BF-ubuntu-1504-vivid-vervet-%CE%B5%CE%AF%CE%BD%CE%B1%CE%B9-%CE%B5%CE%B4%CF%8E>
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ubuntu-chat
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2024-05-13T22:11:16.764424
| 2015-04-23T00:00:00 |
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2015-04-23-#ubuntu-community-team
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[06:57] <dholbach> good morning
[07:59] <popey> Greetings from London.
[08:00] <elfy> does that greeting include a picture of Buck Palace and bored soldiers standing still for hours :p
[08:02] <popey> hah
[08:09] <nigelb> popey: say hi to mhall119 :)
[08:18] <popey> i will :)
[08:21] <mhall119> hi nigelb :)
[08:21] <elfy> good morning mhall119 - I trust London suits you today :)
[08:22] <mhall119> elfy: it's treated me very well, yes
[08:24] <nigelb> mhall119: Hello! How is London treating you? Too bad we aren't in town at the same time :)
[08:29] <mhall119> nigelb: I know, it's been far too long since I've seen you
[08:29] <mhall119> London has been great though, nice weather this week
[08:40] <dholbach> pleia2, great job at getting all those interviews out!
[08:40] <popey> we will have a beer for you nigelb
[09:04] <czajkowski> popey: table is back co working shall resume shortly :D
[09:05] <czajkowski> popey: cant make it tonight to London :( Have more boxes to unpack
[09:05] <popey> :)
[09:05] <popey> awwww
[09:05] <popey> ok
[09:05] <mhall119> czajkowski: noooo!!
[09:06] <czajkowski> we have help coming over tongiht in the form of Jons aunt to help move more boxes and get the garage in a fit state so we can move the bikes and his 'stuff' in there
[09:06] <mhall119> I was looking forward to seeing you again :(
[09:06] <mhall119> I mean, in person, video doesn't count
[09:07] <czajkowski> lol
[09:23] <nigelb> mhall119: It has indeed been far too long since I've seen you.
[09:23] <nigelb> popey: you need to have a cider ;)
[09:23] <nigelb> popey: The last time we met we had some spectacular cider :D
[09:24] <mhall119> I don't recall the cider
[09:24] * mhall119 isn't a big fan of cider
[09:26] <nigelb> mhall119: I meant the last time I met the Alans
[09:26] <nigelb> plural, because alanbell was showing me around and popey joined us later.
[09:26] <nigelb> I *think* it was before the Ubuntu phone announcement. popey had a supersecret new project thing in his bag that he teased us about.
[09:31] <popey> haha
[09:31] <popey> yeah, i remember that
[09:31] <popey> i walk past that pub to get to the office
[09:32] <nigelb> :)
[09:33] <nigelb> I keep thinking of coming to the office at some point
[09:33] <nigelb> but I don't know a lot of people there ^_^
[09:38] <popey> actually, when I last saw you, it was the Ubuntu Edge I had with me
[09:41] <nigelb> Right, I remember reaching home and going
[09:42] <nigelb> Doh, HE HAD THIS DEVICE IN HIS BAG!
[11:11] <popey> dpm: do you know who manages the server guide? we have a request to translate it to Arabic. Where should I point them?
[11:12] <popey> (does the doc team still exist?)
[11:13] <popey> ooh, they do!
[11:13] <popey> /ignore popey
[11:38] <dpm> popey, the doc team is still alive, but not very active. Peter Matulis was working on the server guide, I think
[11:38] <popey> thanks
[16:02] <jose> dpm: ping
[16:02] <dpm> jose, hey
[16:02] <jose> dpm: no me deja entrar al hangout, puedes invitar a [email protected], por favor?
[16:02] <dpm> si, claro
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ubuntu-chat
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2015-04-23-#ubuntu-hr
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[04:34] <Vlado9A3CY> dobro jutro
[06:04] <BotaniCar> Jutro !
[06:10] <SilverSpace> jutro
[06:50] <dodobas> walla
[06:53] <SilverSpace> https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/966116/421HTCLegend.JPG
[07:01] <obruT> Mmike: ja tracklogove radim s gps-om, mobu obicno cuvam batrije za krizne situacije :)
[07:03] <SilverSpace> garmin
[07:03] <SilverSpace> ?
[07:03] <SilverSpace> ja ga nisam davno upalio
[07:04] <SilverSpace> dakota 20
[07:14] <obruT> ja jos imam forerunnera
[07:15] <BotaniCar> Ahh, znaci, nasao sam nekog tko ce mi prodati GPS za pivo ? :)
[07:28] <SilverSpace> BotaniCar: kaj ce tebi gps?
[07:28] <vileni> da si ukuca gdje su dobri cevapi :)
[07:28] <SilverSpace> ha :)
[07:29] <BotaniCar> SilverSpace: ovo kaj je vileni rekao, i da se ne gubim kad nekam idem, nego da me izgubi naprava :)
[07:29] <BotaniCar> Nemrem sam na sebe vikat' kad zajdem u slijepu ulicu ! :)
[07:30] <SilverSpace> joj
[07:33] <SilverSpace> Ja bi Franku trebao ugradit GPS jucer dodem u skolu a njega nema nakon zadnjeg sat
[07:33] <SilverSpace> uciteljica ga trazi
[07:33] <SilverSpace> a on sam kad je zazvonilo otiso doma
[07:34] <SilverSpace> inace je zadnji
[07:34] <SilverSpace> jucer prvi
[07:34] <SilverSpace> potraga bila
[07:35] <SilverSpace> ja doma, a on vec za stolom pise zadacu
[07:35] <SilverSpace> i kaze nisam te vidio bila je guzva
[07:38] <vileni> SilverSpace: skola tamo u kvartu?
[07:39] <SilverSpace> da
[07:39] <SilverSpace> ni 200m od ulaza
[07:40] <SilverSpace> jedino kaj imamo jako prometnu cestu
[07:40] <vileni> SilverSpace: da
[07:40] <SilverSpace> jutros nece nitko stati da prode
[07:40] <SilverSpace> jebote ko da ti vozaci nemaju dijecu
[07:40] <vileni> trebali bi imati redare sa onim stop znakom
[07:41] <vileni> starije ucenike npr :)
[07:41] <SilverSpace> nekada bilo
[07:41] <SilverSpace> ove godine ne
[07:41] <BotaniCar> Fakat, zakaj neke dobre stvari prestanu raditi, to me uvijek cudilo ..
[07:41] <vileni> mene veseli sto su skola i vrtic kod novog stana iza zgrade, usred parka
[07:41] <vileni> ne mora se preko ceste nikamo
[07:41] <BotaniCar> Citam danas na FB galamu, starci ne bi da klinci nose kute :) Valjda zato kaj se onda nemre vidjeti etiketa na obleki ..
[07:42] <SilverSpace> vileni: pa ovdje treba potegnuti samo 1km ceste i vise ne bi bilo guzve
[07:42] <BotaniCar> Jebate, kute i slape su bile najbolja stvar na svijetu, nsiam isao doma zmazan, a suhe papuce po zimi nakon trcanja u skolu po snijegu su prajsles :)
[07:42] <SilverSpace> ali nece jebo ih pas
[07:43] <SilverSpace> BotaniCar: :)
[07:45] <vileni> slape za osnovnu skolu su mi ok
[07:46] <vileni> ali opet, nositi to sa sobom svaki dan, naporno :)
[07:46] <SilverSpace> ovaj BT kaj sam stavio na racunalo je najjebenija stvar spojim zvuk na zvucnik Denon
[07:47] <Mmike> obruT: kol'ko ti traje baterija na GPSu, i kaki imas?
[07:47] <Mmike> SilverSpace: ti imas onaj neki mali slatki?
[07:47] <BotaniCar> vileni: mi smo imali ormarice za kutu/slape/kaj vec
[07:48] <SilverSpace> Mmike: imam i-gatu
[07:48] <Mmike> bed s novim ubuntuom je sto ima 102981032984123094810324981 apdejta tjedno, i skoro svaki tjedan dodje novi kernel i onda moras rebootat
[07:48] <BotaniCar> firewall-cmd --zone=trusted --add-port=5666/tcp --permanent # jebo te kobasica
[07:48] <vileni> btw, vidio sam da na garmine mozes uploadati OSM mape
[07:48] <vileni> to zvuci zanimljivo
[07:48] <SilverSpace> Mmike: tog igatu ti poklonim ako ghoces
[07:48] <BotaniCar> Mmike: isto mi je u zadnje vrijeme s centosom, svako malo neki apdejt
[07:48] <Mmike> BotaniCar: iptables -I trusted -p tcp -m tcp --dport 5666 -j ACCEPT :)
[07:48] <Mmike> SilverSpace: pa
[07:48] <Mmike> SilverSpace: hocu! :)
[07:48] <SilverSpace> vileni: da osm mapa ide bez problema i radi ok
[07:49] <BotaniCar> Mmike: iptables su sooo centos6 :)
[07:49] <vileni> BotaniCar: sta je u centos7 ? :)
[07:49] <SilverSpace> Mmike: treba samo doci do dubrave :P
[07:49] <Mmike> SilverSpace: to je samo gps monitor, right? Doma ga spojim na komp i iztocim tracklog
[07:49] <BotaniCar> i, moram rec da mi je firewall-cmd sintaksno 4x bolji od ajpitejblza
[07:49] <vileni> SilverSpace: ma odbiciklirat ce on to ;)
[07:49] <Mmike> SilverSpace: to cemo izorganizirat vec za vikend :) idem u Ikeju sa zenom i detetom pa prodjemo :)
[07:49] <obruT> Mmike: imam onaj prastari garmin forerunner 201 ak se ne varam... ne znam koliko sad traje baterija, kad je bio novi trajao je jedno 15-tak sati ako ne i vise
[07:49] <Mmike> BotaniCar: zato kaj se nikiad nisi potrudio naucit iptejblze :)
[07:49] <BotaniCar> vileni: umalo isto, mosh ti i iptablese koristit'
[07:50] <Mmike> obruT: aha, znaci punjenje jedan dan, ok
[07:50] <BotaniCar> Mmike: to je istina, kad trosim jednom u 4 mjeseca :)
[07:50] <SilverSpace> Mmike: aj jebote mogo bi navratiti i tulifon sredimo a ne sam u prolazu :)
[07:50] <Mmike> SilverSpace: a komplikovano mi to - mogo bi tamo iza 1vog kad idem do knjigovodje nosit joj papire, pa cu s autom bit
[07:50] <Mmike> zena prisvojila auto
[07:50] <Mmike> a ja jacam guzne misice na biciklu
[07:50] <SilverSpace> Mmike: da taj je samo loger i onda doma prebacis log
[07:51] <SilverSpace> i negdje na web uplodas
[07:51] <Mmike> 8km imam do polsa, ili 9 ak idem po slavonsko/ljubljanskoj aveniji
[07:51] <vileni> vise nego ja
[07:51] <vileni> meni je oko 6.5 :)
[07:51] <Mmike> ima ona neka gtk/java/nesto aplikacija, hbogner mi je to pricao nesto....
[07:51] <Mmike> vileni: :D
[07:51] <Mmike> vileni: neki kosta bi mogo past, a? :)
[07:51] <Mmike> cetvrtak je, bogara mu :)
[07:52] <vileni> Mmike: ja bi nesto jeftinije!
[07:52] <vileni> zena ce me ubiti ako odemo u kostu iz 2 razloga
[07:52] <Mmike> Pri Zvoncu? :D
[07:52] <vileni> prvo, sto trosim pare, drugo sto ju ne zovem
[07:52] <vileni> ali mogli bi, da
[07:52] <vileni> ali samo ako biciklom dodjes
[07:52] <BotaniCar> Mmike: el zulja onaj zic ?
[07:53] <Mmike> BotaniCar: pa onak, nije sad neki najmeksi :)
[07:53] <Mmike> al' nije tak hard
[07:53] <Mmike> vise me zulja po nogama (unutrasnjost bedra) jer je nekak cudnog dizajna
[07:54] <Mmike> vileni: pa to je i ideja, bed je jedino kaj imam sastanak danas u 15
[07:54] <Mmike> tehnicki bi mogli nakon sastanka? :D
[07:54] <vileni> Mmike: u cemu je bed, mislis da ne stignes nazad za 1h? :)
[07:54] <vileni> do 15h sam ja klinicki mrtav
[07:54] <Mmike> ne znam dal' cu stic sve napravit da stignem na rucak
[07:55] <vileni> mozda ako racunam na to kao veceru
[07:55] <SilverSpace> Mmike: http://global.mobileaction.com/product/product_i-gotU_GT-600.jsp
[07:55] <SilverSpace> taj imam
[07:57] <vileni> fora stvar
[07:57] <SilverSpace> vileni: i radi ok
[07:57] <vileni> mogao bih probati magica koristiti za takve stvari, da ne trosim bateriju na s4 :)
[07:58] <SilverSpace> nije tak precizan ko garmin dakota 20 ali ok je
[07:58] <Mmike> SilverSpace: ma super, poklonjeni konj, zubi su mu super :)
[07:58] <vileni> ja imam jos neki bluetooth gps
[07:58] <SilverSpace> na cesti je ok suma bas i ne
[07:58] <vileni> iz doba kad nije bilo mobitela sa time
[07:58] <vileni> i imam gps tracker za auto/motor
[07:59] <vileni> sa sim karticom
[07:59] <vileni> tk102 klon
[07:59] <SilverSpace> https://launchpad.net/igotu2gpx
[07:59] <SilverSpace> ha
[08:00] <SilverSpace> https://launchpad.net/~igotu2gpx/+archive/ubuntu/daily
[08:21] <SilverSpace> ha cak i radi
[08:31] <vileni> super ideja, losa lokacija http://liberland.org/en/about/
[08:34] <SilverSpace> http://blog.fritzing.org/2014/11/24/an-intel-galileo-shield-data-monster/
[08:56] <SilverSpace> gledam arduino uno r3 kinezi ga vec prodaju za 4$
[08:56] <SilverSpace> orginal u sloveniji 37eura
[08:57] <SilverSpace> http://store.arduino.cc/product/A000066http://store.arduino.cc/product/A000066
[08:58] <obruT> SilverSpace: ima negdje na netu r3 s hrpom djidja za 10-12$
[08:58] <SilverSpace> kaj je najgore vjerovatno se i jedan i drugi proizvode u kini
[09:00] <SilverSpace> ja uzeo naseg croduino
[09:00] <SilverSpace> i radi ok
[10:14] <jelly> whut http://openness.microsoft.com/blog/2015/04/21/microsoft-debian-8-linuxfest/
[10:19] <Mmike> jelly: yup :)
[10:19] <Mmike> the world is about to end :)
[10:59] <BotaniCar> velim ja da su windowsasi veci supporteri ljuniax nego ljunixasi :D
[11:00] <SilverSpace> bi ne bi
[11:00] * SilverSpace je tak pasalo sad pivo nakon ruckaž
[11:07] <obruT> SilverSpace: je je :P
[11:14] <SilverSpace> obruT: a tek za veceru cu vidjeti :)
[11:15] <SilverSpace> http://www.index.hr/vijesti/clanak/telekomi-u-krizi-konkurencija-i-nameti-smanjili-zaradu-vipnet-izgubio-80-tisuca-mobilnih-korisnika/816044.aspx
[11:26] <SilverSpace> jebo ih patak promjenu tarife naplacuju 50kn
[11:26] <SilverSpace> vip
[11:28] <SilverSpace> jos mi posalju da mi je tarifa smanjena do kraja ugovora kojega nemam
[11:29] <SilverSpace> mislim da cu na kraju na bonove proci
[11:29] <SilverSpace> ponovo
[11:29] <vileni> meni bonovi isto izgledaju bolje u ovom trenutku
[11:29] <vileni> a kako ne moram do kioska da ih kupim
[11:30] <vileni> s tim da mi se bonbon cini boljim od vip/tomato trenutacno
[11:32] <SilverSpace> sad sam smanjio tarifu pa cu vidjeti
[11:32] <SilverSpace> bonbon imam internet
[11:33] <SilverSpace> usb stick
[11:33] <jelly> tzv. rezervni internet
[11:33] <SilverSpace> za na more
[11:34] <SilverSpace> router openwrt
[11:34] <SilverSpace> kad podjelimo troskove u metar dana 100kn
[11:36] <vileni> meni je odlazak na more kao da sam u hotelu sa 5 zvjezdica
[11:37] <vileni> pun frizider, vrhunski rucak svaki dan, adsl, 300m do plaze, i bmw na koristenje :)
[11:37] <Mmike> vileni: :DDDDDDDDDDD
[11:37] <vileni> tu i tamo se rejting hotela pokvari, kad treba saditi masline i slicno na parceli
[11:38] <vileni> ali sve u svemu, zasluzuje 5 zvjezdica :)
[11:40] <Mmike> joj da te punica cuje :)
[11:41] <BotaniCar> i gorivo bi ti tocila !: )
[11:41] <vileni> haha :)
[11:41] <vileni> ma punica mi je super, a i punac me prihvaca donekle :)
[11:44] <SilverSpace> lol
[11:45] <SilverSpace> cim pratite internet potrosnju na mobitelu
[11:45] <vileni> ja imam ugradjeni onaj
[11:46] <vileni> imam 1gb u tarifi, a trosim obicno ~300mb
[11:46] <vileni> pa se ne brinem previse
[11:46] <vileni> osim kad apdejtam 500mb OSM mapa a da sam zaboravio upaliti wifi
[11:47] <SilverSpace> :) koji to gledam u android i bas ne vidim
[11:47] <vileni> ovisi o verziji mozda
[11:47] <vileni> to na 4.x nadalje ima
[11:47] <vileni> meni je to u settings, pod data usage
[11:47] <weshmashian> mornin'
[11:48] <SilverSpace> aa vidim
[11:54] <SilverSpace> vileni: za to nisam ni znao :)
[11:54] <SilverSpace> od kad sam zbrickao mob puno sam naucio o androidu
[11:55] <SilverSpace> procitao stranica i stranica
[11:55] <SilverSpace> cista preporuka za zbrickat mob :)
[12:04] <SilverSpace> konacno mogu otvoriti prozor a da mi nikakva cudesa ne ulete u sobu
[12:18] <Mmike> "echo -e '\xe' | sudo dd of=/dev/port bs=1 seek=3321" <- NOT AT ALL SAFE FOR WORK
[12:18] <Mmike> use at your own risk :)
[12:19] <jelly> a sta to radi?
[12:25] <SilverSpace> probaj :)
[12:26] <SilverSpace> jebo vise dobijes internetra na bon nego kad si pretplatnik
[12:32] <Mmike> jelly: probaj unutar containera i vidi dal' su isti kontainerabilni :)
[12:33] <nicols> helou!
[12:35] <jelly> Mmike: nema sanse da cu probat rondat po ioportovima iz linuxa
[12:35] <Mmike> jelly: KAE, FRKICA? :)
[12:35] <Mmike> jelly: trazio sam nacin kak da smrznem stroj, bilo fizicki, bilo virtualku
[12:35] <Mmike> pa su mi ovo dali
[12:35] <Mmike> i fakat smrzne :)
[12:36] <jelly> common sense
[12:40] <jelly> http://smackerelofopinion.blogspot.com/2011/02/resetting-pc-using-reset-control.html
[12:43] <SilverSpace> isss 700kn https://www.bonbon.hr/ducan/uredaji/ostali-uredaji/w800z-lte-wifi-router
[12:43] <Mmike> Jako Veliki internet paket
[12:44] <Mmike> trgam se pisajuc :)
[12:44] <SilverSpace> :)
[12:45] <SilverSpace> ne podrzava ljinux
[12:50] <vileni> ja bi najradije neki mobilni hotspot
[12:50] <vileni> pa onda svejedno sto spajas
[12:51] <BotaniCar> Ja bi najradije pojeo nekaj nezdravo, potom popio nesto neznatno manje nezdravo, pa onda zapalio nekaj nebitno_koliko nezdravo :) Ovi interneti, to je za klince i drkadzije :)
[12:52] <vileni> BotaniCar: sutra ti je petak, mir do tada :)
[12:52] <BotaniCar> ACK
[12:55] <SilverSpace> BotaniCar: tko to tebe hebe :)
[12:55] <SilverSpace> bolje receno sto :)
[12:57] <SilverSpace> Njemački Bild tvrdi kako je Sebastian Vettel postao pokrovitelj ADAC Formula 4 prvenstva, a uz to i mentor Micka Schumachera, sina slavnog Michaela Schumachera.
[13:10] <vileni> ima tko kakav wireless widget za brzo biranje mreza?
[13:13] <BotaniCar> nisam jos nikad morao u zurbi mijenjati mrezu
[13:15] <vileni> ja kad testiram/deployam nove ap-ove onda mi to korisno
[13:16] <BotaniCar> o0o0o , ti imas kaj probavati :(
[13:17] <vileni> a imam kombiniranu mrezu od jedno 40 ap-ova
[13:17] <vileni> pretezno mikrotik sad, i cisco od prije
[13:17] <SilverSpace> Tri sata sjedi za stolom i dvije recenice napisao jaooooo
[13:29] <SilverSpace> i jos si pjeva disaster
[13:30] <Mmike> vileni: to na fuxu?
[13:30] <SilverSpace> za desetak godina ce me jos i namlatit
[13:30] * Mmike ce si sad slozit jos jednu kahvu a onda na raketlinator ide doma :)
[13:30] <vileni> Mmike: da
[13:31] <vileni> Mmike: prije kise? :)
[13:31] <Mmike> kise?
[13:31] <Mmike> nemoj me
[13:31] <vileni> haha
[13:31] <vileni> ma nece
[13:31] <vileni> ali oblacno je
[13:31] <vileni> osjeti se da bude navecer/sutra
[13:31] <Mmike> nema kise
[13:31] <Mmike> dopler ne pokazuje nista
[13:31] <Mmike> osim ak se ne stvori sad :)
[13:31] <vileni> ja cu vjerojatno oko 16
[13:31] <Mmike> vileni: kak se ljudi autorizuju?
[13:31] <Mmike> vileni: pa mogli bi se trefit onda :) kojim putem ides?
[13:31] <vileni> Mmike: aai@edu preko radiusa
[13:32] <vileni> vukovarska, strojarska, branimirova, heinzelova, zvonimirova, svetice
[13:32] <Mmike> branimirova?
[13:32] <Mmike> iz strojarske?
[13:32] <vileni> da
[13:32] <Mmike> znaci prodjes pored placa branimirovog?
[13:33] <vileni> pa da, krizanje sa drzicevom
[13:33] <vileni> ako je to taj
[13:34] <Mmike> ne kuzim
[13:34] <vileni> ni ja
[13:34] <Mmike> iz vukovarske skrenes u strojasrku
[13:34] <vileni> da
[13:34] <Mmike> prodjes tam iza autobusnog
[13:34] <vileni> i to
[13:34] <Mmike> prodjes kroz podvoznjak i dodjes na staru branimirovu
[13:34] <Mmike> right?
[13:34] <vileni> da
[13:34] <Mmike> pa tam je plac
[13:34] <vileni> tj, ja odem desno prije toga
[13:34] <vileni> pa sam odmah na krizanju sa drzicevom
[13:34] <Mmike> desno, na novi dio stare branimirove prema novoj branimirovoj?
[13:34] <vileni> hahah
[13:35] <BotaniCar> Jel vi to klopu dogovarate ? Nema veze, gladan sam i kad vam nickove vidim :)
[13:35] <Mmike> pa da
[13:35] <Mmike> i onda dodjes do hajnclove, da, zvonimirova, svetice
[13:35] <Mmike> kul
[13:35] <Mmike> aj na placu se nadjemo kad ces tu bit?
[13:35] <Mmike> 16:20 cca, right?
[13:35] <vileni> tako nekako
[13:35] <vileni> cura krece u 16, pa onda s njom
[13:35] <vileni> treba joj 5min od srca
[13:35] <vileni> ali ionako ide na jogu pa sam free
[13:36] <vileni> a sto se BotaniCara tice, neznam jel ima tamo kakvih cevapa :)
[13:36] <Mmike> ima
[13:36] <Mmike> al' su losi
[13:36] <Mmike> kriminalno
[13:37] <vileni> jel ima rubelja jos tamo?
[13:37] <BotaniCar> Jeb'te se vi, mene je microsoft pozvao da budem dio MS Discussion panela :) Odbio sam ih brze nego su me p(r)ozvali :D
[13:37] <Mmike> ima i to
[13:37] <vileni> rubelj je barem ponekad jestiv bio :)
[13:37] <BotaniCar> kaj Rubelj nije zatvoren pred par mjeseci ? Kao brand, jel
[13:38] * jelly se nada da ce kisa da moze malo prestat smrcat i plakat
[13:38] <vileni> jelly: alergije?
[13:38] <jelly> da
[13:38] <vileni> mene samo glava zbog tlaka ubija
[13:38] <BotaniCar> ma ne, dan nabijen emiocijama :)
[13:38] <vileni> ali na srecu nikad alergije
[13:39] <jelly> BotaniCar: pa kisa i emocije pocisti :-)
[13:42] <BotaniCar> "kad sam stao na vagu,izbacila mi je JMBG" :)
[13:45] <SilverSpace> vileni: bio je jestiv samo kad je imao drvenjaru
[13:45] <SilverSpace> u dubravi
[13:46] <SilverSpace> i na dolcu
[13:46] <SilverSpace> poslje kita
[13:47] <vileni> SilverSpace: pa koliko sam davno bio, svasta je moguce :)
[13:48] <SilverSpace> vi ste mladi da bi to znali
[13:48] <vileni> to je rijetko da ja ispadnem mlad
[13:48] <vileni> osim ovdje mozda :)
[13:48] <BotaniCar> "VI MLADI" , ljubim te u to shiroko chelo ! :)
[13:49] <vileni> ali ako brojimo sijede, mislim da sam presisao BotaniCara npr :)
[13:49] <BotaniCar> :) Neka ti pobjede u toj utrci :D
[13:49] <SilverSpace> BotaniCar: os po šibice :)
[13:49] <BotaniCar> Stricek SilverSpace: jel mogu ovaj put bar pare za sibice dobit ? :)
[13:49] <vileni> BotaniCar: da da, kad me cure pocnu oblijetati kao Clooneya onda ces zaliti
[13:50] <BotaniCar> vileni: ja cu wingmanat, mozda se za nekaj ogrebem !: )
[13:50] <SilverSpace> BotaniCar: prodaj ciglu nekom :)
[13:50] <BotaniCar> :) Dubrava u kuchi ! :)
[13:55] <SilverSpace> joj škola
[13:55] <SilverSpace> jebo kad sad moram ici u skolu
[13:58] <jelly> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZEjGgkRbuxI
[13:58] <datase> YouTube: Paul Anka - Black Hole Sun - 0:04:28 - 370,494 views - 1324 likes / 39 dislikes
[14:15] <Mmike> vileni: kaj onda kaj?
[14:22] <jelly> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qLAbAp5tbU0&index=16&list=PL1E0DACEC079DBEC2c oh dear
[14:22] <datase> YouTube: richard cheese - killing in the name of - 0:02:08 - 778,827 views - 3281 likes / 52 dislikes
[15:32] <Vlado9A3CY> dobar dan :)
[16:04] <ivoks> kak sam glup
[16:04] <ivoks> zakasnio na let sa swiss airom
[16:04] <ivoks> i onda mi dali zamjenski let
[16:05] <ivoks> sa cronogorskim prijevoznikom
[16:05] <ivoks> kak sam glup
[16:19] <obruT> sad sjedni i plači
[16:20] <SilverSpace> skolica za ubuduce
[16:56] <vileni> jebemu, optika je dosla do ovog stana
[17:35] <SilverSpace> http://www.uyesee.com/us/products/audio/2014/0807/21.html
[17:35] <SilverSpace> vileni: cija optika
[17:36] <vileni> SilverSpace: ht
[17:37] <SilverSpace> pih
[17:38] <Mmike> ivoks, DT?
[17:38] <Mmike> ivoks, mozda budu dobri crnogorci
[17:39] <Mmike> dobri jastsuci, deke i to
[17:39] <SilverSpace> jucer me zove vip pakete nude i ja odmah pitao koja brzina kazu 4mb reko bas ste smijesni
[17:39] <vileni> ja bi najradije amis sad
[17:39] <vileni> ali sumnjam da ce biti dostupan
[17:40] <vileni> morat cu birati izmedju bnet i iskon
[17:43] <SilverSpace> ja sam sa svojima zadovoljan jedino bi htio brzinu vecu ali ne moze
[17:43] <SilverSpace> optiku nikako da povuku
[17:43] <SilverSpace> btnet
[18:20] <Mmike> bed s vipneteom/bnetom je sto je kabl
[18:20] <Mmike> i onda je to uzas
[18:20] <Mmike> vileni, mislim da imas amis dolje
[18:20] <vileni> Mmike: nema ftth
[18:21] <Mmike> meh
[18:21] <Mmike> to nema nigdje
[18:21] <Mmike> osim, valjda, na vrbanima
[18:21] <vileni> ima frend u utrinama
[18:21] <Mmike> jel?
[18:21] <vileni> donedavno su imali 100/100
[18:21] <Mmike> stoka!
[18:22] <vileni> a to je najjeftinija optika :)
[18:22] <Mmike> al' jel' ima tko jos drugi da nudi optiku?
[18:22] <vileni> ht
[18:22] <vileni> i btnet mislim
[18:23] <SilverSpace> btnet isto
[18:23] <SilverSpace> samo su jebiga ograniceni na mala podrucja
[18:23] <vileni> a eto, ht siri svoje :)
[18:23] <vileni> dosli u maksimir
[18:46] <SilverSpace> Mmike: od kud koristis VB jel iz repozitorija
[18:48] <Mmike> VB?
[18:48] <SilverSpace> virtualBox
[18:49] <frainfreeze> ja se usrao, visual basic...
[18:49] <frainfreeze> :P
[18:49] <Mmike> SilverSpace, ne koristim ga bas vise
[18:49] <Mmike> frainfreeze, prvu paru programersku sam zaradio od VBa :)
[18:49] <Mmike> u biti, lazem, QBasic, napravio vodjenje videoteke u tome :)
[18:50] <Mmike> SilverSpace, al' koristio sam oracletove repoe kad sam ga koristio
[18:50] <frainfreeze> Mmike, pare su pare to se nemogu protiviti ^^
[18:50] <Mmike> Trsko, Travno, Slobostina, Siget, Sopot, Zaprudje, Utrine, Knezija, Vrbani, Dubec, Poljanice
[18:50] <Mmike> tam Amis ima FTTH
[18:51] <Mmike> Koja nepravda, samo Dugavljanska Republika nema
[18:53] <SilverSpace> idem openwrt stavit u VB moram nesto isprobati
[18:56] <Mmike> SilverSpace, nisam siguran da ce ti to radit
[18:56] <Mmike> VB ti simulira i386/amd64 CPUove
[18:58] <vileni> Mmike: ima openwrt x86
[18:59] <SilverSpace> radi ima wiki kako staviti
[18:59] <SilverSpace> mislim da sam i gotovi naso
[19:01] <Mmike> jel?
[19:01] <Mmike> nisam znao :)
[19:09] <SilverSpace> o da evo ga radi
[19:19] <markosejic> d vecer
[19:28] <SilverSpace> eh ne mogu natjerati net
[19:32] <markosejic> silver pozz
[19:36] <nicols> Upgrading Kubuntu to version 15.04... :)
[19:37] <markosejic> jos je beta ali cujem da je ar kubuntu
[19:37] <markosejic> dobar
[19:39] <SilverSpace> markosejic: oj
[19:40] <SilverSpace> kobuntu nikad vise
[19:40] <markosejic> ja nemam dobar hardware za vrtiti kde
[19:42] <markosejic> ja imam mantru drzim se lts a
[19:43] <markosejic> bas me zanima hoce opet biti linux install fest
[19:44] <SilverSpace> koja budala umjesto 0 nule ja O stavio
[19:44] <SilverSpace> i naravno da nece
[19:45] <markosejic> događa se
[19:45] <markosejic> bio sam na zadnjem linux install festu nije bilo los
[19:47] <nicols> nije beta
[19:47] <markosejic> vidi sam sada da je full
[19:47] <Mmike> nicols, hrabro :)
[19:47] <nicols> 15.04 released today :)
[19:47] <Mmike> nicols, aj javi kak je proslo
[19:47] <Mmike> da, i juju charmovi su releasani danas
[19:48] <nicols> zakaj? imam ga na virtualci već 4 mjeseca
[19:48] <nicols> pratim razvoj svakodnevno
[19:48] <Mmike> pih, na virtualci
[19:48] <Mmike> aj sam ti meni reci kak to prodje
[19:48] <Mmike> e, nicols
[19:48] <nicols> još 36 min downloada
[19:48] <Mmike> jel' bi mogo ja neki server od tebe trzit?
[19:48] <nicols> tržit ili trAžit? :D
[19:49] <Mmike> bitno da ima 32/64 gige rama, i 8 SAS diskova te BBU kontroler
[19:49] <Mmike> ili nvcache ili sto vec danas je moderno
[19:49] <Mmike> da ga dobijem cim prije i da kad crkne neki dio da ne cekam na novi dio stoljecima
[19:49] <Mmike> sve drugo mi manje/vise irelevantno
[19:50] <nicols> super
[19:50] <nicols> znači da ti ni cijena nije relevantna?
[19:50] <Mmike> pa, osim ak nemas neki za 10k kuna, ne :)
[19:50] <Mmike> racunam da je to oko 20-30k kuna
[19:51] <nicols> da ne čekaš novi dio stoljećima ... koliko je to za tebe?
[19:51] <Mmike> tjedan dana?
[19:51] <Mmike> max?
[19:51] <nicols> pih
[19:51] <SilverSpace> ubuntu radi sjajno
[19:51] <nicols> ti bi svašta
[19:51] <nicols> u jamstvu stoji stavka "razuman rok"
[19:51] <Mmike> pa koja svrha, mislim, ak mi crkne cpu, da moram cekat mjesec i pol na novi :)
[19:52] <nicols> a naše sudstvo to tumači kao 45 dana :)
[19:52] <Mmike> ak pise doslovno 'razuman rok' onda bojim se da nist od posla :)
[19:52] <nicols> sve ostalo se plaća extra :)
[19:52] <Mmike> pre neozbiljno :)
[19:52] <markosejic> ja se nikako s unity nisam bas da mi se sviđa
[19:52] <nicols> mi ti možemo ponudit onsite popravak u roku od 24 sata
[19:53] <Mmike> nicols, to je kul
[19:53] <Mmike> nicols, stovise, to je vrlo kul
[19:54] <nicols> nijr to stvar ozbiljno - neozbiljno.... tako rade svi distributeri kod nas, ispunjavaju zakonsku obvezu
[19:54] <nicols> jer kod nas je popularno da se svi cigane za cijene
[19:54] <nicols> pa onda mi stavljamo doplatu za 3 god jamstva + onsite popravak
[19:54] <nicols> ovisnop već o dogovoru
[19:55] <Mmike> to je neozbiljno
[19:55] <Mmike> i zato necu posla imat s 'razumnim rokovima'
[19:55] <Mmike> ak mosh ponudit 24sata on site repair
[19:55] <Mmike> super
[19:55] <Mmike> reci koliko kosta
[19:55] <Mmike> pa cemo pricat
[19:55] <Mmike> ak nemosh ne laprdaj
[19:55] <Mmike> (ne ti, neg, neki)
[19:55] <Mmike> lik mi stavi u server FC kartice
[19:55] <Mmike> dvije
[19:55] <Mmike> i objasnjava kak je to super jer imam super brzi internet kroz to
[19:55] <Mmike> reko, al' nisam trazio, ne treba mi
[19:55] <Mmike> a veli lik 'to vam je danas standard'
[19:56] <nicols> daj mi detalje, koji proc, koliko ram-a? kakve mreže, bla bla koliki diskovi, sa diskovima / bez diskova? 2.5" 3.5"? rack ili tower, bla bla
[19:56] <nicols> redudantno ili ne
[19:56] <nicols> napajanje
[19:56] <nicols> ajde složi mi to sve na mail
[19:57] <nicols> [email protected]
[19:57] <nicols> i jel može onboard kontroler ili očeš zaseban?
[20:02] <SilverSpace> da sam samo nulu promasio dobro bi bilo
[20:06] <Mmike> nicols, proc nebitan, neki xeon da je jeftin, 32 gige ili 64 gige, da je prosirivo do 128, iako malo vjerojatno da ce trebat, diskovi 8x300GB SAS, moze i opcija sa SSDovima, svejedno je dal' su 2.5 ili 3.5 (bolje 2.5 SAS brijem pa da ih stane hrpa kasnije, rack, 2u ili vise, redudantno napajanje, moze onboard kontrolac, al' mora imat bateriju ili nekvi takvi kurac da moggu write cache imat upaljen
[20:13] <Mmike> nicols, odaslah
[20:14] <SilverSpace> Mmike: radi openwrt u virtalboxu
[20:14] <Mmike> SilverSpace, kul! :)
[20:15] <Mmike> nisam pojma imao da ima za x86
[20:15] <Mmike> vileni, kaj ti vrtis na APovima svojima?
[20:15] <vileni> Mmike: mikrotik
[20:16] <Mmike> oni imaju svoga softvera?
[20:17] <nicols> Mmike: pročitah & prosljedih :)
[20:17] <Mmike> nicols, kul :)
[20:17] <Mmike> nicols, spominjali vas neki kao kvalitetne momke, pa reko :)
[20:18] <nicols> ma da? neki? ili svi? :D
[20:18] <Mmike> ne svi
[20:18] <Mmike> vecina brije da je msan zakon :)
[20:18] <Mmike> ne zelis da te takvi preporucavaju :)
[20:18] <Mmike> nicols, kol'ko su tebi deca stara sad?
[20:18] <nicols> 7 i 9
[20:18] <nicols> još malo pa 10
[20:20] <Mmike> beh
[20:20] <Mmike> lako je tako :)
[20:21] <nicols> eh.... :)
[20:21] <Mmike> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/1417580
[20:21] <Mmike> ukratko, nemojte proliante ako bi ubuntu :)
[20:28] <jelly> Mmike: eh, bullshit
[20:29] <jelly> dosta fizickih masina kod nas si prolianti G5-G8 sa raznim ubuntu verzijama
[20:33] <nicols> gotov dist-upgrade :)
[20:33] <nicols> idem u reboot :)
[20:37] <nicols> eto me natrag
[20:40] <Mmike> nicols, daj skrnsot neki? na sta lici? Jel' se puno tog potrgalo? :)
[20:43] <SilverSpace> https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/966116/opwrt.png
[20:48] <Vlado9A3CY> lol
[20:49] <SilverSpace> Vlado9A3CY: ee :)
[20:51] <SilverSpace> sad mogu i server vrtiti na openboxu :)
[20:52] <nicols> pa za sada nije ništa osobito potrgano
[20:52] <nicols> malo mi je razmrdao fontove
[20:53] <nicols> i panel treba malo ispreslagat, ali to sam očekivao
[21:03] <Mmike> poceo mi se linksys smrzavat i resetirat
[21:03] <Mmike> vrijeme je za novi AP doma
[21:04] <SilverSpace> dao svoje
[21:14] <SilverSpace> ln
[21:41] <obruT> vozit sutra i riskirat opako pranje ili ne :P
[21:43] <Mmike> brijes da bi moglo?
[21:45] <obruT> pa nemam pojma, po vise modela ce oko Rijeke roknut neki pljusak, sad je pitanje oce nas zahvatit i ako hoce, koliko hoce
[21:45] <obruT> mislim da cu ipak hodat, a ne pedalirat
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[04:36] <lotuspsychje> good morning
[04:41] <ablest1980> gm
[04:41] <lotuspsychje> ablest1980: hellow :p
[04:42] <ablest1980> xP
[04:46] <ablest1980> be back later
[04:46] <lotuspsychje> ok mate
[04:46] <ablest1980> im going to play cs
[04:46] <lotuspsychje> on steam ubuntu?
[04:46] <ablest1980> yes
[04:46] <lotuspsychje> nicely
[04:47] <ablest1980> XD
[05:17] <ablest1980> im back hello
[07:45] <lordievader> Good morning.
[07:46] <cfhowlett> lordievader, greetings
[07:47] <lordievader> Hey cfhowlett, how are you doing?
[07:52] <OerHeks> Goodmorning lovely people, releaseday
[07:52] <lordievader> Hey OerHeks, how are you?
[07:52] <OerHeks> At least, they released me :-D
[10:51] <BluesKaj> Howdy all
[10:52] <OerHeks> howdy BluesKaj
[10:54] <BluesKaj> Hey OerHeks
[11:04] <BluesKaj> what's the release party chat called?
[11:05] <OerHeks> #oerheks-release-party \o/
[11:05] <OerHeks> oh no, #ubuntu-release-party
[11:46] <OerHeks> BluesKaj, i find some torrents kubuntu and ubuntu op the page :-D
[11:46] <OerHeks> http://torrent.ubuntu.com:6969/
[11:52] <OerHeks> howdy cfhowlett
[11:52] <cfhowlett> OerHeks, yowza^2
[16:17] <daftykins> "oh my tux is it out is it out!?"
[16:17] <daftykins> ¬_¬
[16:22] <OerHeks> mayyyybe,...
[16:22] <OerHeks> Yes, it is out man, wake up, rise and shine !
[16:42] <ki7mt> We are still rising and shining from the release party .. my head is still a bit cloudy :-)
[16:43] <daftykins> XD
[20:26] <MonkeyDust> i quickly return to ubuntu-mate, much swifter than unity
[20:28] <daftykins> ;)
[20:45] <MonkeyDust> in 15.04, that is
[21:53] <daftykins> < Guest26881> daftykins madaret jendast?
[21:53] <daftykins> i wonder what that meant
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2015-04-23-#ubuntu
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[00:00] <nicomachus_> I'm at root shell prompt
[00:02] <nicomachus_> EriC^: you're saying I may need to do something like this? https://askubuntu.com/questions/436925/ownership-of-xauthority-transferred-to-root
[00:02] <EriC^> nicomachus_: i thought so at first, but since the guest account doesn't work too it's unlikely
[00:03] <nicomachus_> this guy had a similar issue that ended up being AMD drivers. I have the same GPU: https://mwop.net/blog/2014-11-03-utopic-and-amd.html
[00:03] <EriC^> i guess you have to check lightdm's logs and see what's going on
[00:03] <EriC^> give it a shot
[00:03] <nicomachus_> except he had a blank screen and I have a GUI.
[00:04] <StomachEgg> help
[00:04] <StomachEgg> how do i install this on ubuntu
[00:04] <StomachEgg> https://github.com/prili/fb-hfc
[00:05] <Ben64> StomachEgg: it literally has instructions on that page
[00:05] <EriC^> nicomachus_: type lspci -k | grep -A2 VGA
[00:06] <nicomachus_> what am I looking for? Tells me GPU info and drivers.
[00:06] <EriC^> which driver are you using?
[00:06] <nicomachus_> fglrx_pci
[00:06] <EriC^> ok, try sudo apt-get purge fglrx*
[00:06] <StomachEgg> i still odn't know how to install it
[00:06] <StomachEgg> Ben64 i follewed those instrucrtion
[00:07] <nicomachus_> one sec transcribing error to pastebin
[00:07] <EriC^> i don't know about the packages he mentioned, but i have amd and it uses xserver-xorg-video-ati
[00:07] <EriC^> and xserver-xorg-video-radeon ( don't know if that's what you have )
[00:07] <Ben64> StomachEgg: its a python script, you run it
[00:08] <nicomachus_> http://paste.ubuntu.com/10868805/
[00:08] <StomachEgg> how do you run python scripts
[00:08] <Ben64> python script.py
[00:08] <nicomachus_> EriC^: that's the OS driver. I'm using the proprietary one. xorg wouldn't work for me. it was a long fiasco.
[00:08] <EriC^> nicomachus_: type mount -o remount,rw /
[00:09] <nogoodnameslkeft> StomachEgg: The other thing you can do it set it executable (chmod +x scipt.py) and then just double-click it
[00:09] <nicomachus_> ah, purge working now.
[00:09] <nogoodnameslkeft> StomachEgg: Although now I look at that script, running it from a terminal would be better.
[00:10] <nogoodnameslkeft> Is anyone here familiar with Ubuntu Mate?
[00:11] <Ben64> nogoodnameslkeft: not on topic here until 15.04 releases, maybe ask in #ubuntu+1
[00:12] <nicomachus_> EriC^: I did 'sudo update-alternatives --remove-all x86_64-linux-gnu_gl_conf' next but no alternatives were found.
[00:12] <EriC^> ok, np
[00:12] <nicomachus_> ok, didn't think so. haha
[00:13] <StomachEgg> nogoodnameslkeft it keeps giving errors
[00:13] <StomachEgg> https://www.irccloud.com/pastebin/Btb2qNgs
[00:13] <nogoodnameslkeft> StomachEgg: Did you install the dependancies in the readme on github? the bit about using pip?
[00:16] <nicomachus_> ok..... shutdown is taking wayyyy too long here.
[00:16] <nicomachus_> stuck on 'wait-for-state stop/waiting'
[00:21] <nicomachus_> ok I'm logged in now. thanks for the help EriC^.
[00:21] <EriC^> nicomachus_: great, no problem
[00:24] <nicomachus_> do I need to reinstall fglrx now? AMD Catalyst Control Center is gone
[00:25] <maysara> Hi, My laptop overheated a couple of days ago and since then the fan is always running at full speed. How can I fix that?
[00:26] <nicomachus_> maysara: you may wanna ask over at ##hardware, but it's possible the thermal paste may need redone.
[00:30] <ptsm> can someone help me with lilo sayng "Trying to map files from unnamed device 0x0015 (NFS/RAID mirror down ?)" ?
[00:30] <ptsm> this was after an upgrade from 10.04 to 12.04
[00:36] <cuddylier> Anyone know the best way to test a drive? I did 'dd if=/dev/zero of=test_$$ bs=64k count=16k conv=fdatasync && rm -f test_$$' and got 44MB/s I/O for this whitelabel 4TB drive but new 1TB enteprise WDs I have get 120MB/s in the same test.
[00:36] <cuddylier> Is this a sign of a crap whitelabel drive?
[00:41] <workingman> how can i open a dmg file in ubuntu?
[00:43] <ptsm> can someone help me with lilo sayng "Trying to map files from unnamed device 0x0015 (NFS/RAID mirror down ?)" ?
[00:46] <psusi> ptsm, why are you using lilo?
[00:46] <hkrrsx> cuddylier: Found this URL regarding Ubuntu stress testing, including hard drive testing: http://www.hecticgeek.com/2012/11/stress-test-your-ubuntu-computer-with-stress/
[00:47] <JinjaNinja> Is there a way to make your HDMI Out screen have a perfect fit? I have a Mitsubishi 73" Flatscreen TV, and I use my Ubuntu PC with it to stream movies. Unfortunately, it's not a perfect fit. The edges seem to bleed out about 40 pixels.
[00:47] <nicomachus_> where will I find the xorg config file?
[00:47] <ptsm> psusi, because I was already using it
[00:48] <ptsm> psusi, I just did a do-release-upgrade from 10.04 LTS to 12.04 LTS
[00:48] <psusi> ptsm, grub has been the standard for like... 15 years now? you really should use it ;)
[00:48] <JinjaNinja> Bump @my last post
[00:48] <psusi> it's far nicer than lilo
[00:48] <ptsm> psusi, as the system is right now, I'm unable to install grub
[00:48] <psusi> why not?
[00:49] <ptsm> /usr/sbin/grub-probe: error: cannot find a device for /boot (is /dev mounted?).
[00:49] <ptsm> and yes, /dev is there
[00:50] <psusi> what is your disk configuration?
[00:50] <ptsm> root is /dev/md0
[00:50] <ptsm> softare raid mirror
[00:50] <Tin_man> nicomachus_: i found this link, might help you.. or not. http://askubuntu.com/questions/4662/where-is-the-x-org-config-file-how-do-i-configure-x-there
[00:51] <psusi> do you have a /boot partition?
[00:51] <JinjaNinja> Is there a way to resize the resolution of HDMI output, to make it perfectly fit your screen? I have a Mitsubishi 73 inch Flatscreen TV, and I use HDMI with my Ubuntu PC, to stream movies. Is there a way to fix the resolution to where it's a perfect fit? My resolution hides about 40 pixels on the edges of the display
[00:52] <penos> JinjaNinja, recalibrate
[00:52] <penos> ur monitor
[00:52] <bb> tits
[00:52] <Ben64> JinjaNinja: probably is a tv setting
[00:52] <psusi> JinjaNinja, unfortunately, TVs suck, and just don't show all of the pixels
[00:52] <ptsm> yes
[00:52] <ptsm> a raid mirror partition also
[00:53] <psusi> and these mirrors are built out of one partition on each of two drives?
[00:53] <ptsm> yes
[00:53] <ptsm> the two disks have the same layout
[00:54] <psusi> hrm... and it is mounted currently? can you pastebin the output of df, lsblk, and sudo grub-probe -t fs -v /
[00:54] <JinjaNinja> I've read something online about where you can install NVIDA driver, and then you can change the resolution scaling manually with the GUI?
[00:55] <penos> JinjaNinja, recalibrate
[00:55] <psusi> JinjaNinja, yea, I think there is something in there where you can basically tell the driver "my tv is stupid, and stops showing pixels *here*, so pretend the rest don't exist"
[00:55] <Ben64> JinjaNinja: you'd have better results if you fix the settings on the tv
[00:56] <ptsm> http://pastebin.com/yWxpdUGE
[00:56] <nicomachus_> thanks Tin_man. I've been looking at the manpage but it's mostly greek unless I can pull up the config file to compare it to.
[00:57] <JinjaNinja> I've got my TV to the maximum NON-zoom. It's as far out as the TV resolution settings will go, where the TV is concerned.
[00:57] <nicomachus_> JinjaNinja: that's exactly what I'm dealing with now, but AMD.
[00:57] <bb> FREE WEB SEX
[00:57] <psusi> ptsm: looks like you don't actually have /boot mounted ( but you have a broken mtab that says it is )
[00:58] <bb> RUTH
[00:58] <nicomachus_> lol bb still here
[00:58] <ptsm> psusi: well, I can cd /boot and list the files there
[00:58] * Ben64 pokes phunyguy
[00:59] <psusi> ptsm, same goes for /bin, /etc, /initrd, /lib, /lib32, /lib/init/rw, and /var/lib/ureadahead/debugfs
[00:59] <bb> FREE
[00:59] <JinjaNinja> penos: What do you mean by, 'recalibrate?'
[00:59] <bb> WEB]
[00:59] <ptsm> http://pastebin.com/mvXKbgkU
[01:00] <bb> CHAT
[01:00] <psusi> ptsm, is your /etc/mtab a regular file or a symlink?
[01:00] <ptsm> regular file
[01:01] <psusi> ptsm, ok, I think you need to delete it and reboot to unfsck it
[01:01] <nicomachus_> found the xorg.conf, but it was in a different place than that link said. it was under /etc/X11/
[01:01] <ptsm> psusi: the problem is I'm on a remote access
[01:01] <ptsm> and I suspect the machine won't boot
[01:02] <JinjaNinja> Damn... Resolution settings are so limited.
[01:02] <ptsm> what do you mean "unfsck it"?
[01:02] <psusi> ptsm, in that case, delete it, and use several mount -f's to fake remounting your real filesystems and update mtab
[01:02] <psusi> right now your mtab claims that you have /boot mounted twice, and several other filesystems mounted where you don't
[01:03] <nicomachus_> JinjaNinja: what driver are you using?
[01:03] <ptsm> psusi: why do you say I don't?
[01:03] <nicomachus_> open-source xorg?
[01:03] <ptsm> I don't like all those aufs there ..
[01:03] <ptsm> they seem to be created by the upgrade tool
[01:03] <JinjaNinja> nicomachus_: I'll check... I've forgotten
[01:03] <psusi> because the output in df for those filesystems says the type is none, and the block counts are identical to your root
[01:03] <bb> LOOKING4 SEX
[01:03] <Ben64> bb: stop.
[01:04] <psusi> which means mtab says something is mounted there, but when df calls statfs() on that path, it's just getting the info from the root fs because there is not really a filesystem mounted there
[01:04] <nicomachus_> ok JinjaNinja. type 'lspci -k | grep -A2 VGA' to check, fyi
[01:04] <psusi> you can consult /proc/mounts to see what is *really* mounted
[01:04] <psusi> and in fact, in modern releases, /etc/mtab is just a symlink there
[01:04] <psusi> so you may just want to replace it with the symlink
[01:05] <bb> PS LIKE 2 CHAT ]
[01:06] <psusi> in fact, I'd say yea, do that
[01:06] <psusi> unless you use nfs or smb mounts anyhow ;)
[01:06] <ptsm> according to /proc/mounts I have /booy mounted
[01:07] <ptsm> no nfs or smb mounts as client
[01:07] <psusi> right.. and you do.. but see how df lists it *twice*?
[01:07] <ptsm> yes
[01:07] <psusi> it should only be there once... so your /etc/mtab lists it twice which is wrong
[01:07] <ptsm> and it seems to list it twice because of the aufs stuff
[01:08] <psusi> I don't see any aufs stuff
[01:08] <psusi> nor should there be unless you have done some weird things
[01:08] <ptsm> none on /boot type aufs (rw,br:/tmp/upgrade-rw-YB0_Vl/boot:/boot=ro)
[01:08] <JinjaNinja> Hello to whoever I was speaking to, sorry, I'm on a mobile IRC client, and it doesn't save chat logs. :/
[01:08] <psusi> does /proc/mounts show any aufs mounts?
[01:09] <psusi> wait, did you do the sandbox upgrade option thing to do-release-upgrade?
[01:09] <nicomachus_> yes JinjaNinja?
[01:09] <ptsm> yes: none /boot aufs rw,relatime,si=9456a3db5fe7c013 0 0
[01:09] <ptsm> I tried the sandbox upgrade
[01:09] <psusi> ohh... I don't think that works right ;)
[01:09] <ptsm> but it gave me some error and aborted
[01:09] <JinjaNinja> nicomachus_: https://www.filepicker.io/api/file/2oCcSG6DSAaTITlckE21
[01:09] <ptsm> so I did the upgrade without the sandbox option
[01:10] <nicomachus_> JinjaNinja: didn't you say you were using an Nvidia GPU?
[01:10] <ptsm> should I try to unmount the /boot aufs?
[01:10] <ptsm> I don't even know how to mount aufs mounts
[01:10] <psusi> well, I think the sandbox stuff did some really weird stuff to your system and I'm not sure how to undo it
[01:11] <ptsm> the thing is
[01:11] <ptsm> the process went apparently normal afterwards
[01:11] <JinjaNinja> No. I said that people with an Nvidia driver can edit their resolution scaling
[01:11] <ptsm> with my attempt without the sandbox option
[01:11] <ptsm> except for 2 packages
[01:11] <ptsm> bind9
[01:12] <psusi> oh dear, and you have gpt in the mix
[01:12] <ptsm> with a apparmor problem that's stopping it from load a so lib
[01:12] <psusi> right, but right now your system is in this goofy sandbox setup where it has used aufs to direct all of the changes the upgrade has made to alternate locations, leaving your original system intact
[01:12] <ptsm> the apparmor problem I found a workaround
[01:13] <JinjaNinja> nicomachus_: I have integrated GPU... It's a cheap computer. Lol.
[01:13] <ptsm> hmmm
[01:13] <ptsm> what do you recommend?
[01:13] <psusi> does your /etc/fstab have a bunch of aufs stuff in it?
[01:13] <ptsm> no
[01:13] <ptsm> looks normal
[01:13] <ptsm> as it was before the upgrade
[01:13] <JinjaNinja> nicomachus, so there's really nothing I can do?
[01:14] <nicomachus_> JinjaNinja: I gotcha. I'm not sure, but you may be able to adjust the xorg.conf file
[01:14] <nicomachus_> try cd /etc/X11/'
[01:14] <nicomachus_> without the '
[01:14] <ptsm> I see I have some 650mb used on /tmp/upgrade-rw-YB0_Vl (the aufs tmp dir)
[01:14] <nicomachus_> and then try gedit xorg.conf
[01:15] <JinjaNinja> But if I were to do that, wouldn't I have edit the xorg.conf file every time I unplug HDMI from my tv?
[01:15] <psusi> yea, that seems to be where all of the modified/upgraded files are actually at
[01:15] <ptsm> so
[01:15] <ptsm> in theory
[01:15] <ptsm> I could just unmount the aufs dirs
[01:15] <JinjaNinja> or is it just for outbound displays
[01:15] <ptsm> and everything would be like it was before the do-release-upgrade?
[01:15] <nicomachus_> I honestly don't know, JinjaNinja. I always keep mine plugged in. FYI, a VGA cable will adjust automatically.
[01:16] <psusi> something like that, yea... but I'm not quite sure how to do that... you can't just unmount it without a reboot
[01:16] <psusi> that's why I was asking about /etc/fstab
[01:16] <ptsm> I can try to remount them
[01:16] <psusi> can't remount either
[01:16] <ptsm> shit
[01:16] <JinjaNinja> nicomachus_: excuse the ignorance, I'm new to improv- Linux projects hahah
[01:16] <psusi> check this though... mount /dev/md1 into /mnt or something
[01:16] <nicomachus_> as am I...
[01:16] <psusi> and then go see what the fstab there looks like
[01:17] <psusi> it may be that your real /dev/md1's fstab sets up the autfs mounts, and when you view /etc/fstab through aufs, you are really looking at the one in that tmp dir
[01:17] <ptsm> but md1 is mounted as /
[01:17] <psusi> that's fine... you can mount it again elsewhere
[01:17] <ptsm> rw?
[01:17] <ptsm> or ro?
[01:17] <psusi> probably ro is best
[01:18] <ptsm> it says "already mounted"
[01:18] <ptsm> -f ?
[01:18] <JinjaNinja> for the record... NEVER use Kali Linux as a Local OS. Worst mistake you'll make. It has the most boring, non-user friendly interface you'll ever use. Unless you're just a cold-blooded hacker that always uses pentesting tools/ never wants to take a break and enjoy your computer, then don't use it locally.
[01:19] <ptsm> mount -f gave no errors
[01:19] <ptsm> it shows no files inside
[01:19] <psusi> odd... I don't get that error without -f
[01:20] <psusi> hrm... maybe that is something that changed later than 12.04
[01:20] <JinjaNinja> ptsm: Just set up a live USB of Ubuntu, and then wipe the Hard Drive with a fresh install of GRUB/ Ubuntu.
[01:21] <psusi> at this point I would feel more comfortable just doing a clean install of 14.04 ;)
[01:21] <JinjaNinja> ^
[01:21] <ptsm> this is a production system :)
[01:21] <ptsm> can't do that
[01:22] <JinjaNinja> Update me- What are you attempting to do, ptsm?
[01:22] <ptsm> and it works as it is
[01:22] <psusi> production systems should be rebuilt every 5 years or so ;)
[01:22] <ptsm> all I did was a do-release-upgrade on a 10.04 LTS server system
[01:22] <psusi> yea, but in a sandbox
[01:22] <ptsm> first try with the -s option
[01:22] <psusi> which is basically an unsupported feature
[01:22] <ptsm> it gave me errors
[01:22] <JinjaNinja> Damn
[01:23] <ptsm> and aborted
[01:23] <JinjaNinja> Start over xD
[01:23] <JinjaNinja> like, wipe it out and reinstall :P
[01:23] <psusi> I don't see anything in the man page about how to roll back the sandbox if you don't like it
[01:23] <ptsm> I don't know the aufs magic
[01:23] <ptsm> but
[01:24] <ptsm> I just read it does some kind of a union of dirs
[01:24] <ptsm> isn't it possible to just unmount it?
[01:24] <psusi> right... it uses aufs to take your original filesystem, and combine it with that tmp dir so that all writes go to the tmp dir and leaves your oroginal filesystem intact
[01:24] <psusi> well that's what I was saying earlier... you can't just unmount it since the system is running from it
[01:25] <psusi> you have to figure out how to change the config so that when you reboot, it will mount it normally and not with aufs
[01:25] <psusi> hence, checking fstab
[01:25] <ptsm> the fstab is good
[01:25] <psusi> ( I'm trying to figure out how the heck it configured the system to mount with aufs in the first place )
[01:25] <psusi> even the one in the /mnt?
[01:26] <ptsm> I couldnt see /dev/md1 (the root filesystem) when it was mounted inside /mnt/test
[01:26] <psusi> wait... you know what... maybe it didn't set it up to be there when you reboot?
[01:26] <psusi> and so if you just reboot, you will be back to the old system pre sandbox upgrade?
[01:26] <ptsm> maybe
[01:26] <ptsm> but right now, I don't have physical access to the server
[01:27] <psusi> and it isn't virtualized either I guess? ;)
[01:27] <ptsm> it's a real server
[01:27] <psusi> and no serial console or anything?
[01:27] <ptsm> no
[01:28] <ptsm> but yeah
[01:28] <ptsm> the old kernel is there
[01:28] <psusi> I just read this: http://osdir.com/ml/ubuntu-bugs/2014-04/msg30955.html
[01:28] <ptsm> and lilo, supposely, didn't touch the disks
[01:28] <psusi> so yea... it sure sounds like do-release-upgrade mounted the aufs over the existing fs
[01:28] <psusi> and so a simple reboot will just load the original system as it was
[01:28] <nicomachus_> my xorg.conf file is empty...
[01:29] <ptsm> if it doesn't ...
[01:29] <ptsm> I'll have 4h sleep
[01:29] <ptsm> to be there soon tomorrow
[01:29] <ptsm> early
[01:29] <happyfr0gg> I have verified I have J.R.E. & the J.D.K. installed but I do not have the directory /usr/local/java. What gives???
[01:30] <psusi> in the future, I'd suggest that you get some new hardware ( since this is obviously fairly old ), install a minimal hypervisor system on it, and import the old system as a vm
[01:30] <ptsm> I thought about doing that
[01:30] <psusi> then when things go wrong you can still get in remotely, and when you want to test out a release upgrade, you can use snapshots and such for easy testing and rollback
[01:30] <ptsm> but I trusted the upgrade utility
[01:30] <ptsm> and I'm disapointed now
[01:30] <ptsm> after this happened
[01:31] <psusi> well, it sounds like the whole point of that sandbox thing is that it didn't actually change things and so a reboot will undo them... and boot loaders don't play right in the sandbox
[01:31] <ptsm> apparently, the bootloader didn't do anything
[01:31] <ptsm> didn't change anything
[01:31] <psusi> when I dist-upgrade my servers, I just make a full system backup, and go for the upgrade
[01:31] <psusi> and if things go pear shaped, restore the backup
[01:32] <psusi> or that's what I did before I got into virtualization anyhow
[01:32] <psusi> ( and I don't think I've ever actually had to restore, just nice to know it's there )
[01:33] <ptsm> well
[01:33] <psusi> usually it's just a matter of figuring out what service broke, and how to fix the conf file to make it happy again
[01:33] <ptsm> I'll satisfy your curiosity
[01:33] <ptsm> and mine
[01:33] <happyfr0gg> I have verified that J.R.E. & the J.D.K. are installed but the directory /usr/local/java does not exist. What gives???
[01:33] <ptsm> I'll try the reboot
[01:33] <ptsm> now
[01:34] <ptsm> I changed the lilo.conf file
[01:34] <psusi> basically the boot loaders don't know how to set up the system to boot into the new sandbox'ed upgraded system ;)
[01:34] <ptsm> but it doesn't play a role on boot, right?
[01:34] <psusi> right, it is only used when lilo runs to modify the mbr
[01:34] <ptsm> yeah
[01:34] <ptsm> ok
[01:34] <ptsm> fingers crossed
[01:36] <ptsm> no response...
[01:37] <ptsm> still no response...
[01:38] <ptsm> it probably didn't boot
[01:39] <psusi> roh roh
[01:39] <Windowsaurians> how many people are using ubuntu?
[01:39] <ptsm> yeah, it's dead
[01:39] <ptsm> gotta go sleep
[01:39] <reborn> what's time for released tomorrow?
[01:39] <psusi> another thing to consider on servers is that when you do a snapshot, or in this case, the sandbox thing, if for instance, you are running a mail server, it would have accepted new mail and dropped it into the sandbox
[01:40] <psusi> so abandoning the sandbox would throw out that mail
[01:40] <Ben64> reborn: sometime
[01:40] <ptsm> well, it's not a mail server
[01:40] <psusi> so not the kind of thing you want to be doing on a server
[01:40] <reborn> alright.
[01:40] <ptsm> there's no one working on it right now
[01:40] <ptsm> it's an office server
[01:41] <brawndo> i have broken menus in vlc media player on a fresh install of lastest version linux lite. any suggestions?
[01:42] <ptsm> thanks for your help psusi
[01:42] <psusi> nice thing about virtualization is that if something like this happens, you can just ssh into the hypervisor and restore the full backup you did before trying
[01:42] <psusi> and get effectively a bare metal restore remotely
[01:42] <Ben64> brawndo: linux lite is not supported here
[01:43] <brawndo> the menus work, but the font is all [][][][][]
[01:43] <reborn> tomorrow is best day, because ubuntu will released, and one piece release. it is perfect for me or anyone same interest.
[01:43] <psusi> or better yet, make an lvm snapshot before upgrade and just revert to the snapshot
[01:43] <brawndo> Ben64, do you know if the linux lite channel still exists? i read it was no longer supported
[01:44] <Ben64> brawndo: i don't know of an irc channel for them
[01:44] <psusi> ptsm, also fyi, raid10 is *way* better than raid1 ;)
[01:45] <thms> I am in rescue mode right now and I am trying to mount an NFS file system, sadly mount command hangs forever.
[01:45] <brawndo> ok thanks. sorry if its an obvious answer, but being that linux lite is ubuntu based, any chance the fix might be the same?
[01:45] <Umair> ?????
[01:45] <thms> Any idea how I can debug this ?
[01:45] <Ben64> brawndo: this channel only supports ubuntu, we don't know what changes are in linux lite, sorry
[01:45] <brawndo> ok, thanks anyway
[01:46] <omnia> if somebody has a clue with nvidia please check this out ----> http://forums.linuxmint.com/viewtopic.php?f=59&t=194588
[01:46] <Ben64> !mint | omnia
[01:47] <psusi> ptsm, and I think I have made sense of that error you got from lilo... it maps which blocks on the disk the kernel is in so it can embed that list into the mbr... but with the aufs sandbox, this isn't possible since some files are stashed elsewhere
[01:48] <omnia> im having this issue a long time now and nobody in the linux mint help or forum or elsewhere seems to have a clue
[01:48] <Ben64> omnia: that doesn't make it on topic here in #ubuntu
[01:48] <omnia> and linux mint is based on ubuntu so i thought ill give it a try
[01:49] <Windowsaurians> is ubuntu being released or are they waiting for debian?
[01:49] <omnia> anyway sorry for posting it here
[01:49] <petrvs> Windowsaurians: they're waiting till it's ready for release
[01:49] <petrvs> doesn't matter when it's released, though
[01:49] <Windowsaurians> it matter they have a shedule
[01:50] <Windowsaurians> can some one ban phunyguy from #ubuntu-offtopic please?
[01:50] <petrvs> ban someone from an offtopic channel?...
[01:50] <Windowsaurians> hes ruining the channel
[01:51] <petrvs> what'd he do, say something on topic?
[01:51] <Windowsaurians> he banned me
[01:51] <petrvs> ...
[01:51] <ptsm> psusi, what should I use to access the system now? a ubuntu live usb?
[01:51] <ptsm> usb pen?
[01:51] <Windowsaurians> hes the one offtopic
[01:52] <Windowsaurians> vnc
[01:52] <Windowsaurians> ssh
[01:52] <xangua> Windowsaurians: please stop
[01:52] <psusi> ptsm, yea, liveusb or cd
[01:53] <psusi> ptsm, do you have a backup? ;)
[01:53] <ptsm> I have backup of the data and the /etc dirs
[01:53] <ptsm> daily backups
[01:54] <ptsm> but I hope I don't have to use it
[01:54] <psusi> what is your backup setup?
[01:54] <ptsm> tar
[01:54] <ptsm> :)
[01:54] <ptsm> very simple to recover
[01:54] <psusi> I really like tower of hannoi hierarchical dump backups ;)
[01:54] <nicomachus_> so apparently fglrx is completely incompatible with Ubuntu 14.10?
[01:55] <psusi> your dailies are relative to what and chained how long?
[01:55] <petrvs> nicomachus_: nah
[01:55] <Windowsaurians> nicomachus_: nop its the other way around
[01:55] <nicomachus_> petrvs: it locks at the login screen every time.
[01:56] <Windowsaurians> its software that support the hardware not the other way around
[01:56] <nicomachus_> I have to drop to root in recovery and purge fglrx
[01:56] <nicomachus_> so I'm using the xorg driver, but my xorg.conf is completely empty.
[01:56] <Windowsaurians> nicomachus_: try debian
[01:57] <nicomachus_> that is the worst possible answer to give in this channel.
[01:57] <Windowsaurians> ubunru is just debian test bed
[01:57] <Windowsaurians> ubuntu is like fedora for red hat
[01:57] <petrvs> nicomachus_: grep EE $(ls /var/log/Xorg.*log | tail -1)
[01:58] <Ben64> Windowsaurians: stop giving bad advice and being offtopic here
[01:58] <Windowsaurians> what bad advice?
[01:59] <petrvs> I wouldn't call it bad as much as overkill
[01:59] <ptsm> weekly full, daily incrementals from last full
[01:59] <Windowsaurians> fglrx works fine on debian
[01:59] <Ben64> nicomachus_: fglrx does work with 14.10, but I haven't used an ATI/AMD card in ages, so I can't really help you too much with it
[02:00] <Windowsaurians> Debian 8.0 Jessie Is Ready For Release This Weekend
[02:00] <Ben64> Windowsaurians: not on topic here
[02:00] <Windowsaurians> http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=Debian-Jessie-CD-Ready
[02:01] <nicomachus_> I had this issue with fglrx and 14.10: https://mwop.net/blog/2014-11-03-utopic-and-amd.html
[02:01] <nicomachus_> checking around, it looked pretty common.
[02:02] <psusi> ptsm, if you do a tar full backup once a week and then dailies in between, the worst case restore scenario is that you have to restore the last weekly, then each of the last 6 dailies
[02:03] <ptsm> in my case I have to restore the last full + the last daily
[02:03] <netameta> ubuntu is, debian-based 64-bit ? or RPM-based 64-bit ?
[02:03] <psusi> I've got a nice dump pattern set up where the worst case restore is 5 dumps.. with 2-3 being typical, and only two is the realistic best case.. but it also gives much better ability to go back a week or two or three and pull out some file someone deleted
[02:03] <petrvs> netameta: debian based
[02:04] <petrvs> netameta: both 64 & 32
[02:04] <petrvs> netameta: and, well, other arches than x86, I believe, too
[02:04] <netameta> I see
[02:04] <netameta> THanks
[02:04] <netameta> Thanks*
[02:04] <petrvs> yap
[02:04] <ptsm> psusi, do you think I'll be able to use grub to boot from the GPT + RAID0 root partition setup?
[02:05] <psusi> so you're doing a daily that uses the.. forget what it calls the listing file of the last backup... from the last full, rather than yesterday's daily?
[02:05] <psusi> yes, you can use grub to boot from gpt + raid anything root
[02:05] <ptsm> psusi, yes
[02:05] <psusi> including raid10 or raid5
[02:05] <psusi> the only thing with gpt is that you have to have a 1 mb bios_grub partition if you are in a bios booting machine
[02:05] <ptsm> last time I've tried, I couldn't
[02:06] <ptsm> 1mb bios_grub partition?
[02:06] <psusi> yea... it's a parted partition type... it's basically a flag telling grub this is the partition you should embed yourself in since the normal area in sectors 1-63+ aren't there on gpt
[02:07] <psusi> you can have grub installed on each of say, 3 disks with a 3 disk raid5 root and it can boot from any of the three
[02:07] <psusi> it's quite nice
[02:07] <psusi> much better than lilo, which can only load the kernel from a raid1 /boot
[02:08] <ptsm> so I'll have to create that grub-bios partition ..
[02:08] <ptsm> how big?
[02:08] <psusi> right.... or revert to MBR ;)
[02:08] <psusi> 1mb is plenty
[02:09] <ptsm> ok
[02:09] <ptsm> thank you
[02:09] <ptsm> I'm leaving now
[02:09] <ptsm> bye
[02:09] <psusi> night
[02:09] <moshefeit> but usually the grub will be handled by the installer, he was talking about dual boot, right?
[02:12] <psusi> moshefeit, no.. server
[02:13] <psusi> where he's still using lilo
[02:16] <cstk421> i have a bash script menu that initiates telnet sessions to console into network devices. Once ctrl-] is entered it drops you into the telnet> prompt. I am looking to stop that from happening and actually disconnect the telnet session. This way it will loop back to my menu.
[02:16] <cstk421> have any idea how to do this ?
[02:16] <electricprism> Has anyone else tried to turn a Android Tablet into a Touchpad & Keyboard for the Linux?
[02:17] <petrvs> elementalest: as in just a touchpad & keyboard, or actually running GNU/Linux?
[02:17] <xangua> electricprism: you just need a custom kernel for that kind of feature
[02:17] <xangua> and he's gone...
[02:17] <petrvs> ha
[02:17] <electricprism> Has anyone else tried to turn a Android Tablet into a Touchpad & Keyboard for the Linux?
[02:17] <moshefeit> electriprism, try this: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=ru.pheodor.android.bluetooth_touchpad&hl=en
[02:17] <psusi> cstk421, you don't.. that's what ctrl-] does.. if you don't want that, then don't use that key.. logout properly from the remote system.
[02:17] <electricprism> moshefeit: thank you :)
[02:18] <netameta> Where is ubuntu's system try / how do i close an app from there ?
[02:19] <auzty> why i can't open mounted media? it's says Permission denied
[02:19] <auzty> i assure that the owner in ls -la is mine,
[02:20] <cstk421> psusi: not sure if there is a command from a cisco device that would actually end the telnet session
[02:20] <auzty> it's happened after i change my UID and GID ,
[02:20] <Ben64> auzty: where is it mounted, how is it mounted, what filesystem, etc
[02:21] <xangua> netameta: if you mean the unity desktop, it doesn't use system try but indicator icons
[02:21] <netameta> i have ubuntu 14.04 installed
[02:21] <netameta> i had an app running when i clicked it, it says the app is now in system try
[02:21] <netameta> i want to close this app
[02:22] <auzty> Ben64 , mounted to /media/auzty/ , fielsystem is NTFS
[02:22] <psusi> cstk421, of course there is, it is usually logout, or exit
[02:22] <cstk421> psusi: yeah tried those and it just exits to the press enter to start console / login screen doesnt disconnect
[02:23] <xangua> netameta: would you mind sharing what app?
[02:23] <psusi> cstk421, that's... really broken... ctrl-D?
[02:23] <netameta> xanqua, its odesk time tracker
[02:24] <cstk421> psusi: does nothing
[02:24] <psusi> wow... cisco is retarded then...
[02:25] <psusi> for that matter, you really shouldn't be using telnet... it's completely insecure
[02:25] <kostkon> !find odesk
[02:25] <cstk421> psusi: its on a secured network telnet is only being used to connect from one machine to another's serial console ports.
[02:25] <cstk421> psusi: no issue there
[02:26] <cstk421> psusi: thanks for the info though
[02:26] <psusi> is this a stand alone serial to telnet bridge that is connected to the switch, or is telnet running in the switch?
[02:26] <netameta> so how do i see the apps in system tray ?
[02:27] <cstk421> its a debian server running as a serial console server
[02:27] <netameta> I dont want to ps aux, and kill the services
[02:27] <cstk421> not telnetting into the switch. i am console into it from the telnet session
[02:28] <psusi> in that case, the serial console server should have a magic key to disconnect... but again, someone can walk into your office, plug in, and telnet into the server... or intercept your traffic to it and see your password and then connect and use that password
[02:29] <netameta> well i ended up just killing all the process
[02:29] <psusi> and that's assuming that this telnet server isn't accessible to the outside internet via ip
[02:30] <kostkon> netameta, let's hope it;s a qt app; what's the output of: apt-cache policy sni-qt ? is it a 32bit app is your installation 64bit? https://ws.elance.com/file/roster.jpeg?crypted=Y3R4JTNEcG9ydGZvbGlvJTI2ZmlkJTNEMTI0MjQ0MzUyJTI2cmlkJTNELTElMjZwaWQlM0Q3NjU5MTU2
[02:30] <netameta> its 64
[02:30] <psusi> or to the outside via a compromised machine on your network
[02:31] <kostkon> netameta, what's the output of: apt-cache policy sni-qt and apt-cache policy sni-qt:i386 no need to use sudo
[02:31] <kostkon> netameta, are both installed?
[02:32] <netameta> yaps
[02:33] <netameta> kostkon why ?
[02:33] <kostkon> netameta, ok, then probably it's not qt-based. Anyway, it seems the app doesn't have support for indicators
[02:33] <netameta> also whats a good irc for ubuntu ?
[02:33] <psusi> cstk421, better yet, why use serial console at all? the cisco should support just directly sshing into it
[02:33] <netameta> Not sure what indicators are
[02:34] <netameta> But i simply killed the process and re ren it
[02:34] <netameta> now its seems to be ok
[02:34] <cstk421> psusi: yes of course they do however we have no network access for this environment only console
[02:34] <netameta> i do need to find a irc for ubuntu as this is from my windows
[02:34] <netameta> and my ubuntu is on a virtual box
[02:34] <kostkon> netameta, ubuntu's tray icon are called indicators, different from those used in gnome/gtk and kde and/or qt and the rest...
[02:35] <kostkon> icons*
[02:35] <netameta> I see
[02:35] <psusi> cstk421, console is intended for a physically connected console.. if you are going to be doing it over the network anyhow, you should be doing it via ssh instead of with a side band telnet->serial bridge
[02:35] <netameta> Ahhhh
[02:35] <netameta> I se now
[02:35] <netameta> where the system tray is
[02:35] <netameta> its at the top
[02:35] <netameta> as opposed to windows at the bottom
[02:35] <kostkon> netameta, what sni-qt does it that it converts qt tray icons to indicator on-the-fly
[02:36] <kostkon> it's*
[02:36] <kostkon> indicators*
[02:36] <kostkon> netameta, top-right
[02:36] <netameta> Yaps
[02:36] <auzty> which application that run when we click mount a drive in nautilus?
[02:36] <netameta> Whats a good linux irc client ?
[02:37] <enchilado> irssi
[02:37] <cstk421> psusi: im not sure we are on the same page. I know how ssh works. i am creating a console server b/c we are not allowed onto the network. we can only get to the devices via console connection.
[02:37] <kostkon> netameta, you could start off with hexchat
[02:37] <enchilado> netameta: http://www.irssi.org/
[02:37] <cstk421> psusi: it is impossible to ssh into devices we cannot get on the same network
[02:37] <kostkon> netameta, easy to use and popular
[02:37] <selig5_> \quit
[02:37] <psusi> cstk421, ohh, you are not allowed onto the network where the switch is, but you are allowed onto a different network where the serial bridge is?
[02:37] <kostkon> !info hexchat
[02:38] <netameta> kostkon how do i install it ?
[02:38] <enchilado> !info irssi
[02:38] <cstk421> psusi: correct
[02:38] <cstk421> psusi: the network the bridge is on is mine
[02:38] <kostkon> netameta, use the software centre or the terminal, i.e. sudo apt-get install hexchat
[02:38] <enchilado> sudo apt-get install irssi
[02:38] <psusi> kind of a silly setup.. after all, if you can get to the switch to configure it you can then make it allow you onto the network.. but if you must, you should be using ssh at least to access the serial bridge
[02:39] <netameta> kostkon its free ?
[02:39] <kostkon> netameta, yes
[02:39] <enchilado> netameta: irssi is free too
[02:39] <enchilado> and better
[02:39] <netameta> Why its better ?
[02:39] <enchilado> You control it with the keyboard
[02:40] <cstk421> psusi: ok interesting about the ssh to serial bridge. The serial server ties each usb to serial adapter to a port in order to telnet to them. Your saying i can do this over ssh ?
[02:40] <enchilado> When you're already typing to talk it's quicker to use keyboard commands than move your hand to the mouse
[02:40] <enchilado> and its scripts are nice
[02:40] <enchilado> it's very customisable
[02:42] <Bashing-om> netameta: http://www.andrews-corner.org/ubuntu/irssi.html <- good irssi install tutorial .
[02:42] <netameta> Nice
[02:42] <netameta> Thanks
[02:48] <psusi> cstk421, if the serial bridge is worth a darn, yea, it should also support ssh
[02:48] <cstk421> psusi: it does support ssh i just would know where to start looking to route ssh to a port for the usb to serial
[02:59] <ubuntu-studio> mmm
[03:14] <Foxhoundz> I'm trying to install 14.04 LTS Server edition on my PC
[03:14] <blueingress> hi, what is the ubuntu server channel ? thanks
[03:15] <Foxhoundz> but I'm getting the all-too--familiar "Your Installation CD-ROM couldn't be mounted"
[03:15] <Foxhoundz> I tried mounting /dev/sdb, the USB media that's installing it, to /cdrom
[03:15] <Foxhoundz> but still nothing
[03:15] <Foxhoundz> I've seen this problem on several versions of Ubuntu Server
[03:15] <Foxhoundz> what's taking so long to fix?
[03:17] <petrvs> blueingress: /msg alis list *ubunt*serv*
[03:22] <blueingress> petrvs, thanks a lot, it helps.
[03:25] <ablegree-> Anyone have experience with corkscrew + ssh tunneling?
[03:25] <albert> hello i am having an issue where i run "nmcli dev wifi" and no networks are listed, yet running "iwlist wlan0 scan" returns networks. why would that be?
[03:25] <jmadero> daftykins: ping pong
[03:25] <petrvs> albert: wifi != wlan0?
[03:25] <jmadero> daftykins: sorry I didn't get back yesterday - got into a conversation with my grandfather in law and didn't want to abruptly end it
[03:26] <albert> petrvs not sure how do i check?
[03:26] <Guest83198> ifconfig
[03:26] <jmadero> daftykins: we figured out the issue though :) father-in-law is backing up files and purging windows from his laptop :-b only took me 10 years and a crazy ass virus to get him to make the change
[03:26] <ablegree-> Say I have a small program that connects to some remote MySQL server listening on 3306. I need to connect to it via an ssh tunnel on port 443 through an HTTP proxy. Possible?
[03:26] <albert> petrvs i don't see wifi listed in ifconfig only wlan0
[03:27] <petrvs> was kind of my point
[03:27] <Guest83198> wlan0 if wifi
[03:27] <Guest83198> eth0 is ethernet
[03:27] <Guest83198> lo is loopback
[03:27] <Guest83198> wlan1 is second wifi
[03:28] <albert> got ya so why would one command list the networks and the other wouldn't? am i misunderstanding what each command does?
[03:28] <Guest83198> ifconfig lists interfaces
[03:29] <Guest83198> ifconfig -h
[03:29] <Guest83198> for help menu
[03:30] <albert> ah! got you, so i would modify my question to state why do i not see any networks listed in nmcli
[03:30] <Guest83198> wait you mean wifi hotspots?
[03:30] <albert> yes wifi hotspots
[03:30] <Guest83198> click on the wifi icon in the top right
[03:31] <Guest83198> or install aircrack-ng
[03:32] <albert> i just installed aircrack-ng, what does it do? as for wifi icon, clicking it shows "wireless networks not found in range"
[03:33] <Guest83198> sudo airmon-ng wlano
[03:33] <Guest83198> then
[03:33] <Guest83198> sudo airodump-ng mon0
[03:34] <Guest83198> wait
[03:34] <Guest83198> sudo airmon-ng start wlan0
[03:35] <jmadero> any thoughts on why my external monitor would stop showing a picture every 10 seconds or so?
[03:35] <jmadero> the monitor doesn't go idle, so the monitor behaves like the computer is plugged in
[03:35] <albert> ok running airodump-ng mon0
[03:35] <jmadero> also Ubuntu doesn't adjust to a single monitor - but the monitor goes black
[03:35] <Guest83198> do you see any networks albert?
[03:36] <albert> i see two tables, i can see my network on the bottom table
[03:36] <albert> but not on top
[03:36] <thiagogv> Hi guys, can I ask irc question here?
[03:36] <Guest83198> when you are connected to a network it only shows that one you are connected to
[03:37] <thiagogv> actually, questions about irssi
[03:37] <Guest83198> if you disconnect you can see more networks
[03:37] <Guest83198> if there are any nearby
[03:39] <albert> i am currently connect via ethernet, would that affect listing. i do see my neighbors network in the top table, but not mine. in the bottom table i see mine
[03:39] <thiagogv> if I join in a two channels, how see chats simultaneously
[03:39] <Guest83198> disconnect ethernet
[03:40] <pr0tlogic> hello, I am trying to install lubuntu on my logical drive, but it doesn't show the raid 10 array it shows the drives as if in jbod, anyone know why?
[03:40] <Guest83198> mind=blown
[03:41] <aeon-ltd> thiagogv: depends on your irc client
[03:41] <jmadero> thiagogv: just use a chat client like pidgin and have the two rooms in different windows
[03:41] <Guest83198> i'm using smuxi
[03:42] <Guest83198> not mirc
[03:42] <albert> strangely after disconnecting ethernet i still didn't see my network jump to the top
[03:43] <Guest83198> is your network visible to any devices
[03:43] <Guest83198> can a phone see it?
[03:43] <albert> yes my kindle is connected to it
[03:44] <Guest83198> i don't see what the problem is
[03:44] <Guest83198> you have ethernet
[03:44] <thiagogv> jmadero: I run my stuff in VPS, so I looked for a terminal client for irc, and I found irssi, is that a good option?
[03:45] <jmadero> thiagogv: I've never used it and we don't usually talk about "good" and "bad" - everyone has their own preference
[03:45] <jmadero> thiagogv: so it's just a matter of if it does what you want it to do :-b
[03:45] <albert> yes it is really strange, will keep plugging away thank you for your help though
[03:45] <Guest83198> your welcome
[03:46] <aeon-ltd> thiagogv: irssi https://quadpoint.org/articles/irssisplit/
[03:46] <Guest83198> i am faultyjohn
[03:47] <thiagogv> aeon-ltd: thank you, I will read it.
[03:48] <kj4> hello. please tell me when the 15.04 is to be released?
[03:48] <somsip> kj4: today. Time is not known
[03:48] <Guest83198> faster is you donate
[03:48] <thiagogv> aeon-ltd: do you know other good articles that explain how to use irssi (and the terms and concepts under irc)?
[03:48] <q-bert> wouldnt 15.04 imply april 2015
[03:49] <somsip> q-bert: it absolutely states it
[03:49] <q-bert> right ...
[03:49] <jmadero> dammit this is really frustrating - Windows has no problems with this external monitor
[03:49] <jmadero> linux - every 10 seconds it goes black
[03:50] <q-bert> sorry to be pedantic, but you mean ubuntu right
[03:50] <Guest83198> did windows need a driver?
[03:50] <jmadero> lol nvm - just went dark with Windows machine
[03:51] <jmadero> just took a bit longer
[03:51] <aeon-ltd> thiagogv: the official is where i learned http://www.irssi.org/documentation
[03:51] <jmadero> hardware going out apparently
[03:51] <q-bert> it'sthe backlight then jmadero
[03:51] <jmadero> q-bert: even worth considering fixing?
[03:51] <q-bert> it can be replaced, but the economics of that depend on where you live
[03:51] <q-bert> that kind of thing would be expensive to get for me for example, in south america
[03:52] <jmadero> q-bert: it's a shitty monitor
[03:52] <somsip> !language | jmadero
[03:52] <q-bert> screw it then jmadero
[03:52] <jmadero> lol I love censorship
[03:52] <q-bert> oops
[03:52] <jmadero> q-bert: yeah sounds good
[03:52] <somsip> jmadero: merely politeness. This is a family-friendly channel. Thank you
[03:52] <Guest83198> censorship is censorsh**
[03:52] <jmadero> somsip: that's fine I'll respect the room rules, I didn't realize that an alternative of poop was bad
[03:53] <somsip> jmadero: not bad, just not welcome here. Thanks
[03:53] <jmadero> q-bert: yeah I got a free 19" coming tomorrow, but I was hoping to have 2 externals :)
[03:53] <jmadero> might just buy another used 24"
[03:53] <q-bert> there's nothing like dual monitor
[03:53] <q-bert> once you try it you'll never go back
[03:53] <Guest83198> adios
[03:54] <jmadero> q-bert: well it's a 17.3" laptop
[03:54] <jmadero> so I already have two ;)
[03:54] <q-bert> oh
[03:54] <jmadero> was thinking a tri might be fun
[03:54] <q-bert> time to sleep
[03:54] <jmadero> q-bert: thanks for the advise
[03:54] <jmadero> take it eays
[03:54] <q-bert> cya
[04:20] <rockstar_> are there any VPN channel I can talk about? I wanted to use VPN in ubuntu, client connection seem simple. But I can't seem to connect to it. Any suggestion?
[04:21] <vonsyd0w> #ubuntu-server is a start
[04:21] <rockstar_> vonsyd0w: was that for me?
[04:22] <vonsyd0w> yes
[04:26] <jmadero> I'm getting this error with my fstab samba mount mount.cifs: bad UNC (192.168.1.66:/media/MEGAMAN)
[04:26] <jmadero> my fstab entry: 192.168.1.66:/media/MEGAMAN /media/MEGAMAN cifs credentials=/data/Joel_Documents/Computer/Scripts/.smbcredentials,iocharset=utf8,sec=ntlm 0 0
[04:27] <jmadero> but I can mount fine with this sudo mount -t cifs -o username=pi,password=testest //192.168.1.66/share /media/MEGAMAN
[04:28] <vonsyd0w> jmadero, the forward slashes are missing? //192.168.1.66:/media/MEGAMAN
[04:30] <jmadero> vonsyd0w: now I get this one mount error: could not resolve address for 192.168.1.66:: Unknown error
[04:30] <jmadero> but I can mount with the cifs -o option
[04:32] <vonsyd0w> oh, the colon after 192.168.1.66 shouldnt be there
[04:33] <tesla909> Ubuntu 15.04 released? where can I find the download link?
[04:33] <jmadero> ubuntu.com/download
[04:33] <jmadero> vonsyd0w: no good, same error
[04:34] <jmadero> tesla909: I don't think it released though
[04:34] <jmadero> tesla909: you can run the beta or RC - I am doing so now
[04:34] <tesla909> Thanks! But it still listed 14.10 as latest @jmadero
[04:34] <jmadero> tesla909: because 15.04 hasn't been released ;)
[04:34] <tesla909> It suppose to be released today right?
[04:35] <jmadero> tesla909: http://releases.ubuntu.com/15.04/
[04:35] <aeon-ltd> eager mcbeavers here
[04:35] <jmadero> then just upgrade after you install it
[04:35] <jmadero> I already got it installed with 5 DE's ;)
[04:35] <jmadero> but my stupid samba mount is failing
[04:35] <tesla909> So I can update to stable release later from beta version?
[04:35] <kj4> what time does is actually release?
[04:35] <jmadero> tesla909: yes just by doing sudo apt-get upgrade
[04:35] <jmadero> kj4: no idea
[04:35] * kj4 is an eager mcbeeeever
[04:36] <jmadero> I've been running the beta2 and updating daily for about 10 days
[04:36] <jmadero> it runs fine
[04:36] <tesla909> Thanks! I'm running 14.10 now...I guess I can upgrade it now to beta as well.... Later stable.
[04:36] <jmadero> tesla909: I hate upgrading between versions, I always clean install
[04:37] <jmadero> separate home folder helps ;)
[04:37] <kj4> jmadero: thanks, I didn't realize it was that simple to go from beta to release
[04:37] <tesla909> Yap clean is best... but lots of softwares....configurations....I'm bit lazy!
[04:37] <jmadero> tesla909: no configuration if you have a separate home partition
[04:37] <jmadero> and a simple install script
[04:37] <jmadero> I literally run a single command to install everything - configurations are held because of separate home partition
[04:38] <tesla909> Unfortunately I've only 1 partition... root+home
[04:38] <jmadero> ah, you might want to rethink that strategy ;)
[04:38] <tesla909> Yap I should
[04:38] <jmadero> I have my root, home, data, and then of course swap
[04:38] <jmadero> home is just configurations
[04:38] <tesla909> Sounds good idea.
[04:38] <Hyd> Can someone link me a way to get an SHH tunnel set up? Can't seem to get it right. Destination should be the server IP and source port should just be anything?
[04:39] <jmadero> Hyd: probably need to give more info than that
[04:39] <tesla909> So how it works after installation fresh? I mean how all those software will be installed?
[04:39] <kj4> Hyd win to lin or?
[04:39] <jmadero> tesla909: what do you mean?
[04:39] <jmadero> every time I download new software I add it to the script
[04:40] <jmadero> so the next time I fresh install (which I do all the time) I just run the same script
[04:40] <tesla909> If I have sepeate perition for home and root... I will format root and try a fresh installation there. After that how can I get all the softwares which were in previous release? Do i need to install manually one by one?
[04:41] <tesla909> Oh you have your own custom script!
[04:42] <jmadero> tesla909: yes I have my custom script
[04:42] <jmadero> you could probably get a list of installed packages
[04:42] <jmadero> and just make your own script easy enough
[04:42] <kj4> jmadero: 15.04 utilizes systemd, right?
[04:42] <tesla909> unfortunately I don't have.... How can I get a list of package?
[04:42] <jmadero> tesla909: sudo dpkg --get-selections | grep -v deinstall
[04:43] <jmadero> kj4: no
[04:43] <jmadero> oh yes it does
[04:43] <jmadero> thought it wasn't going to - but apparently it has
[04:43] <kj4> jmadero: whwew.... ok
[04:44] <tesla909> Thanks... Great.
[04:44] <kj4> jmadero: that's probably the factor that has me coming back to ubunt
[04:44] <jmadero> I don't even know what it is
[04:44] <jmadero> I use Ubuntu but heavily modified
[04:44] <jmadero> including my 5 DE's ;)
[04:44] <lotuspsychje> 15.04 talk in #ubuntu+1 please
[04:44] <kj4> jmadero: nice, what's your fave DE?
[04:44] <jmadero> god the strictness of this room compared to almost any other room is hilarious
[04:44] <kj4> lotuspsychje: o7
[04:45] <jmadero> kj4: DE talk #ubuntu-DE-talk-off-topic
[04:45] <jmadero> :-b
[04:45] <lotuspsychje> jmadero: no reason to be ironic on this
[04:45] <aeon-ltd> jmadero: popular rooms have to be managed more
[04:45] <jmadero> the room is dead right now
[04:45] <jmadero> anyways
[04:45] <kj4> lol. jmadero; no biggie, I understand why- there are tons of ubuntu* channels for a reason
[04:46] <jmadero> kj4: Enlightenment is my favorite
[04:46] <lotuspsychje> jmadero: stop the offtopic please
[04:46] <kj4> kj4: i keep coming back to xfce
[04:46] <Artemis3> jmadero, its technical issues only, no exceptions
[04:46] <jmadero> then I need help with samba
[04:46] <jmadero> please
[04:47] <jmadero> mount error: could not resolve address for 192.168.1.66:share: Unknown error
[04:47] <lotuspsychje> !samba | jmadero
[04:47] <jmadero> this room is useless
[04:55] <MagicMystic> !shit
[04:56] <petrvs> MagicMystic: not sure that's a legitimate bot command
[04:56] <MagicMystic> petrvs: apparently not :P
[04:59] <farbod> hi every body
[04:59] <petrvs> hi far
[04:59] <farbod> when 15.04 realse?
[04:59] <lotuspsychje> farbod: today
[04:59] <farbod> nice ;)
[05:00] <farbod> do you know what time?
[05:00] <Hyd> Irc client froze up, Having issues with SSH Tunnels going to my ubuntu server from my windows computer. Using Kitty client if that matters The way I read it was that you want to set the destination to the ip of the server and that the Port doesn't really matter assuming you put it in the higher end. But after I set it up it seems like my traffic isn't being routed through the system any help would be appreciated
[05:00] <lotuspsychje> farbod: no, its best you idle here and wait topic to change
[05:00] <farbod> Thank you ;)
[05:00] <farbod> we love you Gnu/Linux
[05:02] <lotuspsychje> Hyd: you could install fail2ban, perhaps someone is hammering your ssh
[05:02] <Hyd> I just got it set up today do you think that would be an issue?
[05:03] <lotuspsychje> Hyd: not sure whats your cause exactly, youll have to investigate more
[05:03] <lotuspsychje> Hyd: fail2ban, check your syslog and dmesg,etc
[05:12] <cluelessperson> I'm trying to setup this application called pydio on my ubuntus erver
[05:13] <cluelessperson> but I keep getting an error
[05:13] <cluelessperson> https://www.dropbox.com/s/tvz3s4r2j0mzojo/Screenshot%202015-04-23%2000.03.56.png?dl=0
[05:13] <cluelessperson> I can't seem to find why this is occurring
[05:15] <lotuspsychje> !info pydio
[05:17] <_pingu> mp3splt install error: followed these instructions http://mp3splt.sourceforge.net/mp3splt_page/debian_downloads.php?version=Trusty&ubuntu=true but got: https://gist.github.com/anonymous/e0c52b15bd511bd8a951
[05:17] <drose379> Hey guys, found a random KB shortcut <fn> + <4> that puts my laptop into suspend
[05:17] <drose379> The shortcut isnt listed in the KB shortcuts menu items and "Suspend" isnt even listed
[05:17] <drose379> Why would this be?
[05:17] <Bigfreedom> doesn't work for my desktop
[05:18] <drose379> Why would a shortcut not be listed in the KB shortcuts section
[05:18] <Bigfreedom> because it aint handled by system settings
[05:19] <drose379> Whats it handled by
[05:19] <Bigfreedom> dont know
[05:19] <drose379> Ok
[05:19] <drose379> Thanks
[05:19] <Bigfreedom> similarly, gimp shortcuts arent handled by normal system settings software
[05:20] <Bigfreedom> and are therefore not listed under system settings keyboard shortcuts
[05:20] <drose379> Got it
[05:22] <drose379> What else would have a shortcut to put the computer into suspend
[05:29] <newguy123> hey doggies
[05:31] <_pingu> mp3splt install error: followed these instructions http://mp3splt.sourceforge.net/mp3splt_page/debian_downloads.php?version=Trusty&ubuntu=true but got: https://gist.github.com/anonymous/e0c52b15bd511bd8a951
[05:32] <Ullarah> So, 15.04 tomorrow? :P
[05:33] <codemagician> Ullarah: What time with it be available?
[05:33] <codemagician> *will it be
[05:33] <MonkeyDust> depends on the timezone you're in
[05:33] <codemagician> I'm in Asia Bangkok
[05:33] <codemagician> UTC+7
[05:34] <codemagician> ICT – Indochina Time (Standard Time)
[05:34] <newguy123> i am a silly goose
[05:35] <codemagician> MonkeyDust: What time does it usually become available from?
[05:35] <somsip> codemagician: it varies, but it is often *around* early afternoon EST
[05:36] <codemagician> That would be around midnight for me
[05:36] <codemagician> :(
[05:37] <codemagician> Do the main ubuntu.com website pages change at that time too?
[05:37] <gingermouse> yes
[05:37] <Quakron> THat whole screen of "last login was at ... kernel version ... welcome to ..." that you get when you start your login session in bash or wahtever other shell, where do you change that?
[05:37] <Quakron> I assume it's just some shell script that outputs that some-where/
[05:37] <somsip> codemagician: when it's released, the mirrors are taken down for a short time, then when they come up propogation starts
[05:38] <codemagician> Do you think it's best to get it using bittorrent?
[05:38] <gingermouse> Quakron: That's just the MOTD (Message of the Day; like the one on IRC). Here's a page that talks about it: http://askubuntu.com/questions/385072/how-set-the-message-of-the-day-motd-as-ubuntu-server
[05:39] <somsip> codemagician: *I* think it's best to stick to LTS. Use whatever method is easiest for you.
[05:39] <codemagician> somsip: Unfortunately wont run on my hardware
[05:40] <Quakron> gingermouse, ah ytes, thank you
[05:40] <Quakron> I hav eit now
[05:40] <somsip> codemagician: So someone else's best is not the same as your best. Anyway, just gran what you need when you can. But you will have to wait until it is released
[05:40] <somsip> *grab
[05:41] <codemagician> somsip: I bought a NUC5i5RYH without doing my homework first, so now I need a newer kernel than 3.16 in 14.04.2 LTS
[05:42] <codemagician> somsip: My plan is to live with 15.04 as a stepping stone to either 14.04.3 or 16
[05:44] <newguy123> ubuntu: great OS, or the greatest OS?
[05:45] <newguy123_> hey doggies
[05:45] <somsip> newguy123: please ask questions like that in #ubuntu-offtopic. This channel is for support
[05:45] <gingermouse> hi
[05:45] <rockstar_> I'm having issue for a few days now. Why can't I ping/browse any google websites?
[05:45] <newguy123> gingermouse: how are you today good sir
[05:50] <lotuspsychje> rockstar_: wifi or network card chipset?
[05:51] <rockstar_> lotuspsychje: it works now, it has been happening frequently. it was wifi.
[05:52] <lotuspsychje> rockstar_: on what wifi chipset?
[05:52] <c_smith> soooo.... is there any working messaging indicator that works with Mate?
[05:52] <newguy123_> if anyone on here has a problem, yo i'll solve it right now
[05:53] <_pingu> mp3splt install error: followed these instructions http://mp3splt.sourceforge.net/mp3splt_page/debian_downloads.php?version=Trusty&ubuntu=true but got: https://gist.github.com/anonymous/278d3c04404b97bb631c
[05:53] <rockstar_> lotuspsychje: Ethernet controller: Realtek Semiconductor
[05:54] <newguy123> _pingu: can you set your LANG to english and paste again
[05:54] <newguy123> i dont speakazie deutschesie
[05:55] <c_smith> newguy123, he's speaking English, dude...
[05:56] <somsip> c_smith: see the gist paste
[05:56] <newguy123> c_smith: i just got finished a huge problem right now, you got a problem for me to solve?
[05:57] <c_smith> newguy123, only if either A. you have a psychology degree or B. you know if there's a way to install indicator-messages-gtk2 in 15.04 XD
[05:57] <c_smith> in other words, nope
[05:59] <_pingu> newguy123 fired export LANG="en_US.UTF-8" and did the commands again, but that does not change it's language
[05:59] <newguy123> hrmm
[06:00] <c_smith> _pingu, don't you have to export it then restart the terminal? been a while since I've done something like that, so forgive me if I'm wrong (it's entirely possible I'm mixing that up with changing the .bashrc file)
[06:01] <newguy123> _pingu: try LANG=C
[06:01] <jj995> what is a good old cheap laptop to buy on ebay to install ubuntu for ssh and basic browsing? I'm thinking an IBM T40. any other classic models?
[06:02] <MonkeyDust> !ot| jj995
[06:02] <_pingu> newguy123 works. one moment, please
[06:04] <_pingu> newguy123 https://gist.github.com/anonymous/43dc960706fd26663340
[06:05] <_pingu> newguy123 look at line 18+
[06:07] <somsip> _pingu: try clearing the cache and doing a forced install of libxerces2-java
[06:08] <jasabella> anyone familiar with ntfsclone? :)
[06:12] <_pingu> somsip: that worked. thanks! and thanks to newguy123, too. :-)
[06:12] <somsip> _pingu: good news :)
[06:30] <ANJ7> hey anyone who believes in God can join me at ##Godhelps
[06:34] <auzty> anyone know why i cant access my mounted device after changing my uid?
[06:35] <cogitation> Hello room
[06:35] <cogitation> I'm trying to mount one of my ntfs windows hard drives and it won't mount, anyone able to help?
[06:36] <cogitation> I tried to reboot into windows 7 which is installed on the drive and the disk potentially has failed. I need to at least backup what I can, if possible.
[06:38] <cfhowlett> cogitation, boot a live ubuntu usb. backup your data
[06:39] <cogitation> I don't have one, and I don't know where my usb stick big enough to hold ubuntu would be... any option within ubuntu itself?
[06:39] <cfhowlett> cogitation, for the record, disk failure = stop using the disk completely until you have completed your bckup
[06:39] <cogitation> Understood....other than trying to boot into windows, I havent' used it. Been using ubuntu since
[06:39] <cfhowlett> cogitation, if it's a disk failure, every EVERY read/write action brings you closer to unannounced catastrophic failure
[06:40] <cogitation> do you mean even on a separate hard drive, with ubuntu installed?
[06:40] <cogitation> and the non-functioning drive not mounted?
[06:40] <cogitation> (in fact, it won't mount)
[06:41] <cfhowlett> cogitation, separate HDD or USB, but you should leave the suspect HDD alone starting immediately
[06:42] <cogitation> Understood.
[06:43] <cogitation> can I do anything from within installed ubuntu?
[06:43] <cogitation> I mean, it's a separate drive. I just want to back it up direction.
[06:43] <cogitation> directly* rather
[06:43] <cfhowlett> cogitation, if you can mount the suspect HDD, yes
[06:43] <cogitation> Okay. It won't mount though.
[06:43] <cfhowlett> cogitation, error messages?
[06:44] <cogitation> well, when I click on the drive in the list of drives, it says: "Failed to mount WDC <serial number"
[06:45] <cogitation> <serial number>
[06:45] <cogitation> thanks for your help.
[06:45] <cfhowlett> cogitation, not familiar with that one. ask again in channel. best of luck.
[06:45] <cogitation> Okay.
[06:45] <cogitation> can someone help me back up a failing/failed ntfs hard drive?
[06:57] <BSz|away> morning
[06:57] <BarnaSzalai> which one channel is where everyone wait the final release of 15.04?
[06:58] <DJones> !party | BarnaSzalai
[06:58] <BarnaSzalai> thank you DJones
[07:00] <nextbox> What does it mean to check the checksum when downloading a file from the web?
[07:00] <cfhowlett> !md5sum | nextbox, bad downloads happen.
[07:01] <nextbox> Thanks=)
[07:10] <sopparus> is 15.04 out yet?
[07:11] <murcha> there are processes with D status prompted by htop. Should i delete them?
[07:12] <steve> 15.04 is out today, right? what time? :)
[07:12] <Ben64> !party | steve
[07:12] <steve> thanks
[07:14] <steve> Ben64: do you know what time it is released?
[07:14] <kristhia1> hello
[07:14] <Ben64> steve: approximately 1 minute after it is released
[07:16] <steve> Ben64: thanks!
[07:17] <kris> is there a gui vpn for ubuntu?
[07:19] <somsip> !info vpnc-gui | kris
[07:20] <kris> !info vpn-gui
[07:20] <somsip> kris: ah - more limited than I thought http://ubuntuhandbook.org/index.php/2014/01/vpnc-gui-tool-connect-to-cisco-vpn-ubuntu/
[07:22] <somsip> !info network-manager-vpnc | kris (maybe better - no idea myself I use cli)
[07:22] <somsip> kris: though that might be Cisco only too. So I give up
[07:22] <reisei> hi, all! I have I strange issue with my ubuntu 12.04 desktop: It hangs on boot on the "Starting configure network device"... Any suggestions how can I fix it?
[07:23] <kris> ill just try to explore and thanks for the help somsip
[07:23] <somsip> reisei: make sure it is using the right settings for the network device
[07:34] <reisei> somsip: I just did the upgrade of some packages, I didn't change the network configuration (
[07:42] <BobbyJenkins> I personally know I will receive biased responses on this question, but do you think it is worth it to upgrade from Ubuntu 14.04 to 15.04?
[07:42] <cfhowlett> BobbyJenkins, so why even waste time/resources asking??? your box, your choice.
[07:43] <Artemis3> BobbyJenkins, no.
[07:43] <DJones> BobbyJenkins: 14.04 is LTS, so you get the benefit of not needing to upgrade every 6 months, if you did want to go to 15.04, you'd have to upgrade to 14.10 first, then 15.04, or do a fresh install
[07:44] <BobbyJenkins> I am not exactly wasting time or resources asking the question, I just want to hear different opinions, it is healthy to leave the normalities once in a while :)
[07:58] <OerHeks> Can somebody help me ? because some key is missing, we wait 5 days for Firefox 37.0.2 https://launchpadlibrarian.net/203615172/buildlog_ubuntu-utopic-arm64.firefox_37.0.2%2Bbuild1-0ubuntu0.14.10.1_BUILDING.txt.gz
[08:19] <kilberh> Hola
[08:19] <kilberh> Holaa
[08:30] <cem_> hello guys , i downloaded Ubuntu Mate 15.04 dailybuild of April 22 , in 23 ubuntu will be released and should i install it again with 23 version ?
[08:31] <amari> cem_: Just update and you will have the final already
[08:31] <cem_> so its okey
[08:31] <cfhowlett> cem_, sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[08:31] <cem_> thank you
[08:32] <cuihao> Hey, what's the exact time to release 14.10? Already 23 Apr here :)
[08:32] <kilberh> Hi
[08:32] <cfhowlett> cuihao, "when it's done"
[08:32] <cuihao> :o
[08:32] <amari> cuihao: It was already released (14.10 :) ). I think they will release 15.04 ASAP, i.e. when it's ready
[08:32] <cuihao> ooo, typo
[08:32] <amari> cuihao: A considerable one :D
[08:33] <cem_> :D
[08:36] <cem_> what do you think about Ubuntu 15.04 ? is is good to use ? how many years it will be supported ?
[08:36] <cfhowlett> cem_, 9 months support
[08:38] <k1l> cem_: you need to upgrade every 6 months until you reach the next LTS (16.04) that got 5 years support then
[08:38] <geirha> Regular releases have 9 month support. LTS releases have 5 year support. Next LTS will be 16.04 (april 2016)
[08:38] <ChunkzZ> what time is 15.04 out? GMT?
[08:38] <k1l> !party
[08:38] <cfhowlett> ChunkzZ, 2339
[08:39] <ChunkzZ> ?
[08:39] <k1l> ChunkzZ: plan with afternoon.
[08:39] <cfhowlett> ChunkzZ, it will be released - today - when it's ready - we release no distro before its time
[08:42] <rahulprodev> Hello everyone, :) haven't installed ubuntu on my laptop, waiting from 3 days. when will ubuntu 15.04 going to release?
[08:42] <cfhowlett> ChunkzZ, it will be released - today - when it's ready - we release no distro before its time
[08:42] <cfhowlett> rahulprodev, see above
[08:42] <ChunkzZ> yes, I saW.
[08:43] <cfhowlett> ChunkzZ, sorry for the double :)
[08:43] <mantys89> is there any good cli password manager for ubuntu?
[08:43] <rahulprodev> cfhowlett, thanks, I think I need to wait!!! :) :) :)
[08:44] <mehdip2007> is there limitation to add repository or not?
[08:44] <cfhowlett> rahulprodev, see !isitout
[08:44] <codemagician> push that release button dude. I've got a brick here that wont run with it :)
[08:44] <Edu-J> Hi all! Is it possible to avoid minimized windows when switching with ATL+TAB?
[08:44] <rahulprodev> !isitout
[08:44] <mantys89> no limitation, but i like privacy and security :D
[08:45] <chotaz`w> WHO's EXCITED? I'm excited!
[08:45] <rahulprodev> me too
[08:45] <ChunkzZ> yeah same here chotaz`w
[08:46] <k1l> mehdip2007: no.
[08:46] <codemagician> *without
[08:46] <k1l> if you want to be the first to know its releases, join #ubuntu-release-party
[08:47] <ChunkzZ> thanks k1l
[08:47] <mehdip2007> k1l, becuz sometimes i get the error check the PPA name is correct
[08:47] <rahulprodev> thanks k1l
[08:47] <k1l> mehdip2007: if you add wrong repos/ppas its of course an error.
[08:48] <mehdip2007> k1l, bu once i enter the samething it says to process press enter or ctrl+c to cancel
[08:48] <k1l> mehdip2007: please pastebin the errors and the repos you entered
[08:50] <mehdip2007> k1l, http://paste.ubuntu.com/10870215/
[08:52] <k1l> mehdip2007: maybe the internet was down at that time and it could not look up the ppa name
[08:54] <mehdip2007> well i am downloading something maybe notsure
[08:57] <t4nk509> Hi all. IS anyone here very familiar with kvm/qemu/ovmf/win8/vga-passthru?
[08:59] <Rene_> not me :D
[09:00] <t4nk509> I'm stuck building ovmf that saves settings on reboot.
[09:01] <tdn> I have a bunch of shellscripts and python programs that I maintain in subversion and use on various systems. I would like a central way of distributing these. What would you recommend? Make /usr/local/bin an SVN working copy? Or make a debian package to distribute them?
[09:02] <WoLFMaN> hello
[09:02] <Rene_> hello, so many intresting questions i feel like a noob, -hands the waiting questioners a hot cup of coffee-
[09:03] <Rene_> thats all i can do :D
[09:03] <WoLFMaN> i am having some problems running ubuntu on my mac can anyone help
[09:03] <Rene_> it's not installing at all ?
[09:03] <zzarr> Vivid :D
[09:03] <cfhowlett> !mac | WoLFMaN
[09:04] <WoLFMaN> I have it installed i am running it now
[09:05] <WoLFMaN> the last 2 updates stopped it working i have to select advanced and run the first version i installed
[09:05] <zzarr> I have an nVidia graphics card in my machine, will mir work with the driver? (does it matter what hw I have)
[09:05] <OerHeks> zzarr, current / next ubuntu does not have MIR.
[09:06] <k1l> zzarr: 15.04 will not have mir as default
[09:07] <Luyin> WoLFMaN: where did you select "advanced"?
[09:07] <zzarr> too bad, will I be able to install it in an easy way?
[09:07] <bojan> Can anyone guide me how to set authentication for NFS??
[09:08] <bojan> I have configured NFS and it is working fine..BUt whoever are trying to mount the shaing point from my server are accessing the shared directories...I want to set authentication for that
[09:09] <k1l> zzarr: you can test it with the desktop next isos
[09:09] <zzarr> okey
[09:10] <zzarr> bojan: you can limit what ip address a nfs share is available from
[09:10] <zzarr> (in the export file, /etc/export)
[09:12] <mantys89> Some settings for disabling unity scopes and lences, for better privacy on ubuntu... :) http://pastebin.com/P6GckjFQ
[09:12] <WoLFMaN> i have a boot menu that has unbuntu-ubuntu (advanced)-mac 32bit
[09:13] <WoLFMaN> mac 64bit
[09:13] <auzty> why i cant' access my /media/auzty after changing my uid?
[09:13] <auzty> it' says permissiond enied
[09:13] <cfhowlett> auzty, changed the UID? must remount
[09:13] <Rene_> mantys is that for 14.04 ?
[09:13] <mantys89> yes
[09:14] <Rene_> i will safe it for future updates , as im in 12.04 im suposing my data is not send anywhere to canonical in 12.04 not ?
[09:14] <OerHeks> mantys89, thy an other script, as privacy rules are already in systemsettings>privacy ?
[09:14] <OerHeks> thy-why*
[09:15] <auzty> remount what cfhowlett ? before i change the UID & GID , i can ls to /media/auzty , but after i change it, i didn't have any permission, my permission is right but i dont know why rejected
[09:15] <auzty> drwx------ 1 auzty auzty 32768 Apr 23 14:52 Data
[09:15] <mantys89> I disable all scopes and lences except applications and home...
[09:15] <cfhowlett> auzty, a new UID should be read as new media ... as I understand it. I could be wrong, though.
[09:16] <codemagician> !isitout
[09:16] <Ben64> auzty: ls -ld /media/auzty
[09:16] <mantys89> OerHeks: there are just few settings, not all...
[09:16] <cfhowlett> ubottu with attitude. perfect.
[09:16] <codemagician> Annoying
[09:16] <Rene_> lol
[09:16] <bojan> zzarr:For example if a guest are coming to my office and they want to access my NFS share folder...How to set permission for them to access only readonly for some users and permission for using for some users??
[09:16] <codemagician> Yeah you did say it was out on 23rd
[09:16] <codemagician> And on the wiki says 29th
[09:17] <k1l> codemagician: please join #ubuntu-release-party for that
[09:17] <cfhowlett> codemagician, chillax. it's out when it's out.
[09:17] <bojan> zzarr:I want to authenticate using username and password
[09:17] <auzty> thanks Ben64, i can LS it with ls -ld, but why that happened?
[09:17] <bojan> zzarr:Is there any way??
[09:18] <Ben64> auzty: paste the result of that command
[09:18] <auzty> drwx------ 1 auzty auzty 32768 Apr 23 14:52 Data
[09:18] <auzty> sorry wrong paste
[09:18] <zzarr> bojan: I don't think so, but I'll google it
[09:18] <bojan> zzarr:please tell
[09:18] <auzty> drwxr-x---+ 3 root root 4096 Apr 23 16:15 /media/auzty/
[09:18] <codemagician> cfhowlett: I'm not using 15.04 for some party, I'm using it because 14.04.2 LTS wont run on the NUC5i5RYH
[09:18] <Ben64> auzty: doesn't look proper
[09:19] <codemagician> So I've been watching this useless brick on my desk for 1 week
[09:19] <k1l> codemagician: please keep this channel here clear for support. the release will be announced in the party channel.
[09:19] <Ben64> codemagician: the party counts down to release time, its not on topic here until it releases
[09:19] <codemagician> ok
[09:19] <mantys89> bojan: you need change permisions to 755 >> sudo chmod -R 755 /media/auzty
[09:20] <bojan> mantys89:thats not for me
[09:20] <zzarr> I guess you should use LDAP or Kerberos
[09:20] <mantys89> bojan: why ?
[09:20] <bojan> mantys89:because i dont ask that question
[09:21] <mantys89> sorry..., my mistake... :D
[09:21] <Ben64> auzty: please pastebin the output of "getfacl /media/auzty"
[09:21] <bojan> zzarr:i am using LTSP here...IS it possible to authenticate using LDAP or kerberos...Then what do you think about NIS??
[09:21] <zzarr> bojan: with the help of LDAP or Kerberos you can authenticate NFS (and many other services as well)
[09:22] <zzarr> bojan: it's possible with NIS/NIs+ too
[09:22] <mantys89> auzty: you need change permisions to 755 >> sudo chmod -R 755 /media/auzty
[09:22] <zzarr> bojan: it's just a matter of configuration
[09:23] <auzty> http://pastebin.com/SfT8BBwm Ben64
[09:23] <bojan> zzarr:Yes i want that
[09:23] <bojan> zzarr:i want help to configure that
[09:23] <arunpyasi> guys, I am having problem with resizing my ntfs partition
[09:23] <auzty> this is weird, my new UID is 1001
[09:23] <arunpyasi> please help
[09:23] <zzarr> bojan: I have never configured NIS/NIS+
[09:23] <k1l> auzty: chown the mounting path to your user?
[09:23] <cfhowlett> !details | arunpyasi
[09:23] <Ben64> auzty: why did you change uid anyway
[09:24] <WoLFMaN> mac 64bit!pastebin
[09:24] <WoLFMaN> !pastebin
[09:24] <mantys89> auzty: you can read, write, execute, group/others read and excecute...
[09:24] <zzarr> bojan: look at this http://www.symantec.com/connect/articles/nfs-and-nis-security
[09:24] <auzty> actually i need my production app to run to the specific uid, so i change the UID according to the app uid :D
[09:24] <Ben64> auzty: use setfacl to change the 1000 to 1001
[09:25] <arunpyasi> I am trying to shrink my ntfs parition but I cannot shrink it. Its not dragging. and I get a warning icon on the partition, when I double clicked it, it says "Unable to read the contents of this file system!
[09:25] <arunpyasi> Because of this some operations may be unavailable.
[09:25] <arunpyasi> The cause might be a missing software package.
[09:25] <arunpyasi> The following list of software packages is required for ntfs file system support: ntfsprogs / ntfs-3g."
[09:25] <auzty> thanks for advice mantys89 and k1l :)
[09:25] <Ben64> auzty: that makes no sense, but whatever makes you feel happy :)
[09:25] <zzarr> it's lunch time for me bbl
[09:25] <arunpyasi> hualet: hey buddy
[09:26] <auzty> thanks you very much Ben64 , actually i never hear that, setfacl :(
[09:26] <arunpyasi> And now, I don't have an option to resize, its disabled.
[09:26] <bojan> zzarr:can u pls share a best configuration material for nis??
[09:28] <k1l> arunpyasi: make sure ntfsprogs is installed
[09:29] <arunpyasi> k1l: it says E: Package 'ntfsprogs' has no installation candidate
[09:29] <k1l> arunpyasi: please show a "sudo apt-get update && apt-cache policy ntfsprogs"
[09:30] <k1l> arunpyasi: ah wait, try the ntfs-3g package
[09:30] <arunpyasi> k1l: yeah, its installed.
[09:32] <arunpyasi> k1l: http://paste.ubuntu.com/10870329/
[09:34] <arunpyasi> k1l: http://picpaste.com/DeepinScreenshot20150423151834-EQ92GpcE.png
[09:34] <cfhowlett> arunpyasi, you have deepin?
[09:34] <arunpyasi> cfhowlett: yeah
[09:35] <cfhowlett> arunpyasi, sorry, but deepin aint' ubuntu and is not supported here. see deepin support
[09:35] <arunpyasi> cfhowlett: ? u mean ?
[09:35] <Hempathy> Hi guys, I'm looking for help with a black screen on boot, think I messed up encryption upgrading, would appreciate any help
[09:35] <cfhowlett> arunpyasi, look in your "help" menu for help from deepin. this is ubuntu.
[09:35] <arunpyasi> cfhowlett: I think it doesn't matter whether deepin or ubuntu, cause its core system is ubuntu.
[09:36] <k1l> arunpyasi: no. please see deepin support. we dont know what they changed. since it works on ubuntu
[09:36] <cfhowlett> arunpyasi, it does matter. this channel supports ubuntu. deepin isn't ubuntu
[09:36] <cfhowlett> !flavors | k1l
[09:36] <tijnix> *gets popcorn*
[09:36] <penos> !ubuntu
[09:36] <penos> !hurd
[09:37] <penos> !hurd !linux
[09:38] <Saviq> happy release day! :)
[09:39] <ecenk> happy release day :)
[09:39] <Hempathy> Gotta love it eh!
[09:39] <Hempathy> It's like a geek xmas every 6 months
[09:40] <amrX2K> .
[09:41] <penos> !release
[09:43] <penos> !penos
[09:44] <penos> u dun naw meee?
[09:44] <k1l> penos: enough now
[09:44] <penos> okk..
[09:44] <cfhowlett> penos, please. stop. to send private ubottu: /msg ubottu !command
[09:51] <pi2> ^TIL
[09:54] <hamdroid> i am using vim on a windows computer via ssh. how do i save/exit ?
[09:55] <Rory> :wq
[09:55] <zmurfje> :wq
[09:55] <Rory> More questions need to be like that one
[09:55] <zmurfje> Probably escape first
[09:58] <hamdroid> ty
[09:59] <hamdroid> file got saved as .swp
[09:59] <hamdroid> when i try to open via vim it shows as new file..
[10:01] <zmurfje> vi <path-filename>
[10:01] <zmurfje> then save
[10:05] <Z3_> Hi ! Can you install ubuntu on intel compute stick (windows version)? That's because the hardware of windows version has more RAM and internal storage
[10:06] <daniele12457> do they have usb on the intel compute stick?
[10:07] <Z3_> yep
[10:07] <daniele12457> you can put ubuntu on a usb stick then boot from the usb stick
[10:07] <Z3_> so is just like a standar desktop pc
[10:07] <Z3_> standard
[10:07] <Z3_> I was worried there were some limitations for install new operating systems
[10:09] <daniele12457> dunno
[10:09] <daniele12457> never tried
[10:09] <daniele12457> i just assume
[10:09] <daniele12457> do you have the intel compute stick?
[10:10] <Z3_> I am thinking in purchase one
[10:10] <Z3_> but ubuntu version has only 1 GB RAM
[10:10] <Z3_> not enough for me, I need 2 GB
[10:10] <daniele12457> i'm pretty sure they will allow to do so
[10:11] <vooze> What time (I'm in Denmark GMT +2) will 15.04 be released?
[10:11] <Z3_> ok, thank you ! :)
[10:11] <codemagician> vooze: see #ubuntu-release-party
[10:12] <vooze> codemagician, thanks, Is it just a random time today?
[10:13] <penos> in 14.04 the repository don't have sccummvm
[10:13] <penos> in the earlier versions they had it :(
[10:14] <penos> in the past i played beneath the steel sky
[10:17] <codemagician> vooze: apparently
[10:18] <codemagician> vooze: I did hear the servers get overloaded so it may be best to use a torrent
[10:24] <geirha> !info scummvm
[10:24] <geirha> penos: perhaps you just haven't enabled universe?
[10:24] <OerHeks> geirha +1
[10:28] <penos> geirha, ohh good
[10:28] <penos> geirha, ill try that <3
[10:28] <OerHeks> Can somebody help me ? because some key is missing, we wait 5 days for Firefox 37.0.2 https://launchpadlibrarian.net/203615172/buildlog_ubuntu-utopic-arm64.firefox_37.0.2%2Bbuild1-0ubuntu0.14.10.1_BUILDING.txt.gz
[10:29] <PCatinean> I have for some reason some slim and small font all over ubuntu and I have no idea why, how can I go back to the default of the installation?
[10:30] <penos> is there an IDE like microsoft visual studio on linux?
[10:30] <OerHeks> penos, not Vistual studio, but there are a lot of IDE's
[10:30] <jpds> penos: Eclipse.
[10:30] <OerHeks> !ide
[10:30] <OerHeks> !editor
[10:31] <k1l> PCatinean: use unity-tweak-tool to set the proper fonts settings
[10:31] <penos> eclipse is decent
[10:31] <chotaz`w> On my work computer I have 2 partitions./boot is on a small, 250MiB partition while everything else is ina luks encrypted partition. My sysadm is not around and I need to create space on /boot to make sure I can make the upgrade later on. How do I go about cleaning /boot?
[10:31] <Luyin> also there is sublime
[10:31] <k1l> chotaz`w: remove old kernel-packages
[10:32] <pi2> !code
[10:32] <chotaz`w> k1l, I don't feel experienced enough to tackle this in the safest way, can you provide some tips, please?
[10:32] <k1l> chotaz`w: dont delete stuff in /boot manually!
[10:33] <PCatinean> k1l, it shows them as default
[10:33] <k1l> chotaz`w: list all installed linux-image* packages. "dpkg -l | grep linux-image" in a pastebin
[10:35] <chotaz`w> k1l, sure: http://paste.ubuntu.com/10870537/
[10:37] <k1l> chotaz`w: "sudo apt-get remove linux-image-3.16.0-23-generic linux-image-3.16.0-33-generic" after that do a "sudo apt-get autoremove"
[10:38] <chotaz`w> k1l, care to explain why I'm keeping specific builds behind, that are not currentl in use? even between those 2 you suggested to remove
[10:39] <chotaz`w> those buings "builds"(?) 31 and 34
[10:40] <geirha> 31 is not installed
[10:40] <k1l> chotaz`w: ii is installed
[10:40] <thms> I have an exact clone of my debian system
[10:40] <thms> what do I do first, (ho k1l hi)
[10:40] <chotaz`w> I just want to make sure I understand the procedure so I can redo it in the future
[10:41] <k1l> thms: ask #debian :)
[10:41] <thms> xarg -a apt-get install and then rescue mode to rsync -avPH
[10:41] <chotaz`w> thanks for the tip, I've ran both commands
[10:41] <thms> ubuntu I meant
[10:41] <thms> 14.04
[10:41] <k1l> thms: come on :/
[10:41] <thms> or reverse
[10:41] <thms> I guess reverse.
[10:42] <k1l> chotaz`w: usually ubuntu should have removed the old kernels. you only need 2 actual kernels. the older one is used for booting into recovery. so like something is bad with the new kenrel you can still boot into recovery with a working one.
[10:43] <codemagician> Is there a fixed date for 14.04.3 LTS and if so what kernel version will it upgrade to?
[10:44] <k1l> codemagician: yes. see its release schedule
[10:44] <OerHeks> codemagician, it is all on the release page
[10:44] <OerHeks> not sure about the kernel, too far away i guess
[10:45] <k1l> codemagician: the kernel should be the 15.04 backports kernel.
[10:45] <codemagician> What's the offical release page?
[10:45] <k1l> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/TrustyTahr/ReleaseSchedule
[10:45] <pero> hi
[10:46] <PCatinean> This thread says to locate the xorg file http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1855689
[10:46] <chotaz`w> k1l, thanks a bunch for sharing the knowledge, so checking for (ii)nstalled ones, keeping a previous version for a possible recovery need ands off with the remaining ones, I hope this created enough room in /boot for the upgrade, orelse I'll have to go about learning how to resize an encrypted partition, which I already tried by running gparted, but the encrypted partition has a flag saying luks encrypted partitions are not yet supports, so I tried
[10:46] <chotaz`w> a more "manual" approach
[10:46] <PCatinean> I did but it specifically say to not edit directly
[10:46] <PCatinean> what do I do?
[10:47] <Rory> PCatinean: That thread's from 2011, are you sure the version is relevent?
[10:47] <codemagician> k1l: Thanks
[10:48] <PCatinean> Rory, I have ubuntu 14.04, what is the appropriate way of doing this in this version?
[10:48] <codemagician> Will it be possible to downgrade from 15.04 to 14.04.3 LTS?
[10:48] <mcphail> codemagician: no
[10:48] <Rory> PCatinean: You can edit the file, you should just make a copy of it first, so you can revert to the old version later if you need to
[10:48] <mcphail> codemagician: downgrades require a full reinstall
[10:48] <k1l> codemagician: no downgrades with ubuntu
[10:48] <PCatinean> Rory, so after each dist-upgrade I have to re-paste it??
[10:48] <codemagician> that's a shame
[10:48] <codemagician> I got unlucky timing with my hardware
[10:48] <Rory> PCatinean: I'm not sure what you're asking
[10:49] <Rory> PCatinean: Re-paste what? You only need to edit the file once, you should just make a backup of it first
[10:49] <PCatinean> # DO NOT EDIT THIS FILE, your distribution will likely overwrite
[10:49] <PCatinean> that's what it says
[10:49] <mcphail> codemagician: you can always install a newer kernel with an older release
[10:49] <codemagician> k1l, mcphail I'd liked to have stayed on the LTS line but I needed a later kernel for the Intel HD Graphics 6000 support
[10:49] <mcphail> !mainline | codemagician
[10:49] <Rory> PCatinean: "To make changes permanent I used instructions from this site " did you follow that link in the thread?
[10:49] <k1l> codemagician: you could use mainline kernels
[10:49] <codemagician> mcphail: problem I have is that I can't install 14.04.2 LTS as the GUI is broken
[10:50] <PCatinean> Rory, which one?
[10:50] <Rory> PCatinean: before I carry on can you summarise what you're trying to do?
[10:50] <codemagician> Unless I installed the 14.04 server edition and then the GUI manually
[10:50] <Rory> PCatinean: I don't want to give you incorrect advice
[10:50] <mcphail> codemagician: you can't fall beack to vesa graphics and install? Use "nomodeset" as a boot parameter?
[10:50] <Rory> PCatinean: If you edit /usr/lib/X11/xorg.conf.d/10-synaptics.conf you will be fine
[10:50] <PCatinean> Rory, just keep my settings regrding the touchpad "AreaRightEdge, left edge etc"
[10:50] <amrX2K> .
[10:51] <codemagician> I tried the nomodeset and nothing seemed to happen. (I did this using F-<something> which brought up the grub menu
[10:51] <PCatinean> Rory, I have no such file theere
[10:51] <codemagician> This was using the 15.04-beta-2
[10:51] <Rory> No, it would be a new file
[10:51] <codemagician> *sorry ignore last line
[10:51] <OerHeks> PCatinean, that file does not exist, it is in /usr/share/X11/xorg.conf.d/50-synaptics.conf.
[10:51] <BluesKaj> Howdy all
[10:51] <PCatinean> OerHeks, yes but the message inside it says not to edit drectly
[10:52] <mcphail> codemagician: how broken is the gui?
[10:52] <PCatinean> If I create a new conf file there's a automated system that takes the conf?
[10:52] <codemagician> mcphail: unreadable
[10:52] <Rory> PCatinean: If there's an update to xorg through apt, I assume the config files might be overwritten?
[10:52] <OerHeks> PCatinean, " Users can copy this file to /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d/ and edit it to configure the various driver options available." from the arch wiki, works for ubuntu too >> https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Touchpad_Synaptics
[10:52] <Rory> PCatinean: That is probably what it means
[10:53] <PCatinean> So I just copy it, name it with 10, add the sections and should work?
[10:53] <mcphail> codemagician: installing from the server edition is fine anyway. No major problems when doing that, particularly as you're going to swap out th kernel
[10:54] <codemagician> mcphail: I felt like by changing out the kernel on 14.04.2 LTS kinda negates the positive reasons for me using it, since I do web development it's nice to have a matching system to my live server
[10:54] <codemagician> My current plan is stick with 15.04 until 14.04.3 LTS becomes available and then re-instanll
[10:55] <mcphail> codemagician: fair enough. Not sure if therre will be a further kernel version bump, though
[10:55] <codemagician> mcphail: Right, that's what I was wondering if that was predecided on the release pages
[10:55] <chotaz`w> k1l, went from 60MiB unused to 150MiB, hopw it's enough for the update :)
[10:56] <PCatinean> OerHeks, I have did that it says and placed /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d with settings, nothing happened
[10:56] * mcphail can't remember if previous LTS releases had more than 1 kernel version bump
[10:56] <PCatinean> http://hastebin.com/ofegalebek.cmake
[10:57] <k1l> mcphail: there is the enablement stack since 12.04.2 (because of the samsung brick kernel bug htingy)
[10:57] <mcphail> k1l: aah
[10:58] <codemagician> I'm thinking that most of my web development work revolves around PHP and MySQL so I doubt there will be any major significant differences between web development stacks on 15 vs 14
[10:59] <amrX2K> How do I get vhost on freenode server ?
[10:59] <OerHeks> PCatinean, then restart xorg, or logout/login again
[10:59] <k1l> amrX2K: ask in #freenode
[10:59] <PCatinean> OerHeks, I've had that for weeks
[11:00] <PCatinean> still does not work
[11:00] <codemagician> I've had no experience of trying the latest releases vs a LTS release so I don't know how stable things are going to be
[11:00] <PCatinean> it's a symlink to /usr/share but still should work
[11:01] <codemagician> One thing that would be useful (and I'm not sure if this exists or not) would be a page with Ubuntu versions and the Intel Graphics version supported under that version
[11:01] <mcphail> codemagician: the only dreadfully unstable Ubuntu release was Edgy Eft
[11:01] <k1l> codemagician: for non-LTS you need to upgrade every 6 months
[11:01] <codemagician> If there a path from 15.04 to 16 LTS?
[11:02] <mcphail> codemagician: yes
[11:02] <k1l> codemagician: no
[11:02] <mcphail> codemagician: via 15.10
[11:02] <k1l> codemagician: only 15.04 -> 15.10 -> 16.04
[11:03] <codemagician> Does any cruft from 15.04 and 15.10 get left laying around the system
[11:03] <k1l> just the stuff you do yourself
[11:03] <mcphail> codemagician: not really, unless you've installed PPAs
[11:03] <codemagician> Would that include custom made PHP executable… would I have to recompile with the new kernel?
[11:04] <mcphail> codemagician: not unless the new kernel has come with a new major version of libc
[11:04] <jpds> codemagician: A PHP compile has nothing to do with the kernel.
[11:05] <mcphail> codemagician: if you keep your self-compiled binaries under /usr/local rather than /usr, they won't be touched by the distro
[11:06] <codemagician> jpds: I wondered if it would rely on shared object libraries which depend on the kernel
[11:06] <pero> bye
[11:07] <codemagician> mcphail: that's good as that's where I usually put them
[11:07] <mcphail> codemagician: the only
[11:08] <mcphail> codemagician: the only library you have to worry about is libc, and that rarely gets a major version bump
[11:08] <codemagician> I can't tell you how happy I am to be returning to Linux after many years of using a Mac
[11:09] <Rene_> welcome back ^.^
[11:10] <codemagician> :)
[11:11] <Rene_> i got a multi boot with win, but i try not to go there if possible, only for games i can;t get to run in Linux or run very poorly, which makes win have 2 games and linux 30+ :D
[11:11] <codemagician> I hated fiddling around trying to get things like xdebug installed for PHP
[11:12] <codemagician> I never quite got to grips with the brew installer vs the sudo apt-get install
[11:12] <Rene_> i have never used a mac
[11:13] <Rene_> all my pc's are self build
[11:16] <Rene_> For me as a gamer, it's great how more and more games on steam have Linux support, i dont buy any game anymore that doesn't have linux support, hopefully they keep on supporting future ubuntu versions, im wondering when stuff will break when its an older game in the future
[11:18] <codemagician> I wish I had time for games
[11:18] <Rene_> ^.^
[11:19] <codemagician> Rene_: The last game I played was populus 2
[11:19] <Rene_> i can try to do ur work for an hour and u can go play a game then :P
[11:19] <kdenewbie__> Hi! I have two questions, I use to scroll a lot on the desktop for switching between them (KDE here) but the srcoll is like too quick (just in this situation, in others like okular and so on is ok) and i cant find the way to set it slower
[11:19] <Rene_> haha lol
[11:19] <Rene_> @codemagician
[11:20] <codemagician> Rene_: And before that Chuckie Egg
[11:21] <Rene_> i play world of tanks most of the time with wine 1.7.4 csmt
[11:22] <Rene_> mm i cant find scrolling settings in mouse or compiz
[11:23] <Rene_> not sure where u need to set scroll speed
[11:23] <BornToFlyBert> Hello Everybody!
[11:23] <Rene_> hello
[11:24] <Rene_> in one article it says, a user removed an usb dongle and plugged in the mouse directly or other usb port and it fixed scroll issues
[11:24] <l9> have i gone compeletly numb or ??? mv file ../. shouldnt that move file one folder back ?
[11:25] <Rene_> maybe trying other usb ports might change something ?
[11:25] <Rene_> https://askubuntu.com/questions/255890/how-can-i-adjust-the-mouse-scroll-speed
[11:25] <BornToFlyBert> What is the topic in here if I may ask, i have got questions concering cups, if I am allowed to ask.
[11:26] <Rene_> i guess if its in ubuntu u can ask :D
[11:26] <EriC^^> l9: yeah, do you have write access one dir back?
[11:26] <l9> EriC^^: mmhm i have weird part is that it says the file aint there
[11:27] <BornToFlyBert> Is anybody familiar with CUPS and Lexmark printers/scanner multifunctional devices i mean?
[11:27] <TinSoldier> sup guys
[11:27] <Rene_> o/
[11:27] <Nickname1> hi
[11:27] <BornToFlyBert> hi
[11:27] <TinSoldier> does anyone know if the AMD bug still esists?
[11:27] <OerHeks> BornToFlyBert, what lexmark model exactly?
[11:27] <Rene_> amd bug cpu gpu ?.?
[11:28] <TinSoldier> gpu
[11:28] <Rene_> the unity color problem ?
[11:28] <l9> EriC^^: hehe whoops i have gone dumb :P haha long time no see btw
[11:28] <TinSoldier> uhmm
[11:28] <TinSoldier> maybe ^^
[11:28] <BornToFlyBert> @Oerheks: It is an lexmark x1180 printer/scanner.
[11:28] <TinSoldier> had to swap over to fedora
[11:28] <Rene_> aww
[11:29] <TinSoldier> think i should just go ahead and give it a try?
[11:29] <OerHeks> BornToFlyBert, it does not show up on http://www.openprinting.org/printers/manufacturer/Lexmark/
[11:30] <Rene_> u could try with an cd/dvd running without installing it i huess
[11:30] <Rene_> guess*
[11:30] <metric_chicken> hello, I could really uses some assistance. Im trying to install Linux Mint over PXE. I can get mint to mount on a client over the network but the installer fails. I've looked at /var/log/installer/debug and the first error is "Gtk-Message: Failed to load module "overlay-scrollbar"
[11:30] <TinSoldier> or just test in in a VB
[11:30] <OerHeks> BornToFlyBert, found this old tutor, that uses the 600 driver > http://ubuntu-art.org/content/show.php/Lexmark+driver+pack+for+ubuntu?content=98648
[11:30] <Rene_> i mean i would not trow a worjking os away, incase the bug is still there
[11:31] <Rene_> yeh
[11:31] <BornToFlyBert> OerHeks, it's on http://support.lexmark.com/index?locale=de&page=product&productCode=LEXMARK_X1180&segment=SUPPORT&userlocale=DE_DE&frompage=null#1
[11:31] <OerHeks> metric_chicken, mint issues ..
[11:31] <OerHeks> !mint
[11:31] <TinSoldier> aight thx
[11:31] <TinSoldier> i might be back soon ^^
[11:31] <Rene_> ^.^
[11:31] <Rene_> good luck
[11:31] <metric_chicken> Ive tried and there isnt anyone there
[11:31] <OerHeks> BornToFlyBert, i always check openprinting, to see if cups can handle it.
[11:31] <DazPetty> metric_chicken, installing over a network? that sounds pretty tricky
[11:31] <metric_chicken> im really just asking about the ubiquity installer
[11:31] <BornToFlyBert> OerHeks, i see, thank you for the advice
[11:32] <metric_chicken> DazPetty i figured out how to boot over the network
[11:32] <OerHeks> metric_chicken, that makes asking here not valid.
[11:32] <metric_chicken> combo of using tftp and nfs
[11:32] <DazPetty> metric_chicken, how?
[11:32] <DazPetty> metric_chicken, if you don't mind me asking
not a problem
[11:33] <Rene_> not sure if testing in a vm is good testing of a gpu/driver bug though , as normaly the vm doesnt see the propper 3d card as that is emulated
[11:33] <BornToFlyBert> OerHeks, what shall i do if i cannot find it on openprinting, does it necessarily mean, that it won't work with ubuntu?
[11:33] <aceruser> hi guys i have a huge problem I bought the Acer Aspire E 11 and it has an eMMC. gparted is stuck on Scanning all devices and I cannot instal Ubuntu
[11:34] <Rene_> :'(
[11:34] <kdenewbie__> another question, i enabled kde beta ppa for getting kde 5.3 and now i don't know if i should disable that ppa
[11:34] <l9> anyone has a easy way too test if dir has *.mkv and if not rm -rf
[11:34] <DazPetty> kdenewbie_ there is a program called ppa-purge
[11:34] <OerHeks> BornToFlyBert, openprinting does not support this model, only with the 600 driver, it is just a hack/workaround.
[11:35] <OerHeks> BornToFlyBert, oh that url ends up 404...
[11:35] <AdvoWork> Hi there, i know its an older version 13.04 (and im trying to upgrade) but im backing my stuff up first. The problem is, ive put the usb hd into the laptop, its picked it up but it wont let me paste, or make new folders, read only maybe?
[11:35] <BornToFlyBert> OerHeks, i see, so what can i do?
[11:36] <kdenewbie__> DazPetty: but it deletes the packages installed from the given ppa ?
[11:36] <OerHeks> BornToFlyBert, nothing i guess, i am looking for an other way ..
[11:37] <OerHeks> !ppapurge
[11:37] <OerHeks> it reverts back to the original packages
yes maybe its mounted read only or your user has no permissions to acces it and its mounted as root
[11:37] <BornToFlyBert> OerHeks, I find it quite interessesting, because the printjob appears in the printing queue and then it disappears without printing anything ...
[11:38] <DazPetty> kdenewbie_ it tries to downgrade it, it is usually safe to remove it, what do you want to do? downgrade it or just remove it for something else like xfce?
[11:40] <kdenewbie__> DazPetty: actually i want to keep the version i have right now but i don't know if it's sure having the kde beta ppa just in case it breaks something now
[11:41] <KeithWeisshar> when is ubuntu 15.04 for desktop coming out
[11:42] <k1l> KeithWeisshar: some time today
[11:42] <k1l> KeithWeisshar: see #ubuntu-release-party for the announcement
[11:43] <codemagician> KeithWeisshar: #ubuntu-release-party
[11:43] <pavlos> l9, find <starting dir> -f -not -name *.mkv -exec rm -rf {} \;
[11:43] <Rene_> !party_time
[11:43] <Rene_> awww
[11:43] <Rene_> xD
[11:44] <Rene_> ubottu> Sorry, I don't know anything about party_time , at least it awnsered something back in a pm :D
[11:45] <svetlana> aw
[11:45] <pavlos> l9, the -f should be -type f
[11:46] <DazPetty> I guess all you can do it try it and then fix it if it breaks kdenewbie_
[11:53] <Laurenceb__> hi, i have a problem with a samaba drive
[11:53] <Laurenceb__> can anyone help?
[11:53] <Laurenceb__> sudo mount -a
[11:53] <Laurenceb__> mount error(13): Permission denied
[11:53] <cfhowlett> !samba | Laurenceb__
[11:54] <Laurenceb__> yeah im following that guide
[11:54] <WoLFMaN> Hi , Can someone help I have a problem with ubuntu on my mac i have put some screenshots onimgur
[11:54] <WoLFMaN> Hi , Can someone help I have a problem with ubuntu on my mac i have put some screenshots onimg ur
[11:54] <WoLFMaN> Hi , Can someone help I have a problem with ubuntu on my mac i have put some screenshots on imgur
[11:55] <Ben64> dude.
[11:55] <EriC^^> WoLFMaN: you missed the space after Hi
[11:55] <l9> hahah
[11:55] <l9> please correct and repost
[11:55] <AdvoWork> Rene_, i have root access though, any idea how to mount it with full access?
[11:55] <Happy_Larry> When mounting your drive you need the domain name
normaly u need to set the uid on moubting it like: sudo mount -t ntfs-3g -o discard,defaults,auto,noexec,uid=1000,gid=1000,umask=002 UUID=1D0A24CC2EAEF9C9 /mnt/SSD
[11:56] <Rene_> where uid=1000,gid=1000 makes sure ur normal user can get to it
[11:57] <Rene_> umask needed too i guess
[11:57] <EriC^^> WoLFMaN: post the url and somebody might know
[11:57] <AdvoWork> Rene_, ahh and you can't just mount by plugging it in, plug/play?
[11:57] <Rene_> im not sure, im not plugin in stuff all the time
[11:57] <Rene_> what does mount say ?
[11:58] <Rene_> how is the volume now mounted ?
[11:58] <Ben64> AdvoWork: usually can, you've not given any details of what you mounted, how its mounted or anything like that
[11:58] <l9> EriC^^: he has an horrible ping
[11:58] <WoLFMaN> http://imgur.com/a/avG2I
[11:58] <WoLFMaN> the bottom version works the others dont.
[11:59] <EriC^^> WoLFMaN: does ubuntu work?
[11:59] <AdvoWork> Rene_, how can i get the UUID of the USB HD?
[11:59] <l9> what did you change between them ?
[11:59] <Rene_> uhm not sure, i took it over from some auto script that mounted it like that
[11:59] <AdvoWork> Ben64, to be fair, i literally just plugged it into the laptop by usb, nothing else, it detects it, i can see files on it, but no access to copy to it
[11:59] <Ben64> AdvoWork: pastebin the output of "mount"
[12:00] <[n0mad]> Advowork, can you create a new folder on the root of the drive?
[12:00] <Rene_> i think you should just be able to give up the directory
[12:00] <Rene_> oione sec
[12:00] <murcha> should i use in the shell script (sudo reboot -f) or (reboot -f)?
[12:00] <Rene_> in dev/disk
[12:00] <EriC^^> !nomodeset | WoLFMaN try booting with this
[12:01] <AdvoWork> [n0mad], no i cant, let me just pastebin
[12:01] <Rene_> you can look by id or label or path
[12:01] <l9> EriC^^: 30 - 36 that is a big jump tho, what changed in 36 that made 34 and 33 crash also
[12:01] <EriC^^> WoLFMaN: also remove the quiet splash part and see what it says
[12:01] <Rene_> i think you should be able to use those things with mounting
[12:02] <AdvoWork> Ben64, its http://pastebin.com/3s3k4Zi9
[12:02] <l9> oooh maybe i can get my gpu working on the desktop
[12:02] <EriC^^> l9: that's an odd splash screen O.o
[12:02] <Ben64> AdvoWork: and where are you trying to make files/folders
[12:02] <Rene_> but if you do mount in a console, one of the lines should relate to the drive you want to acces, i would suggest aletering that line or copying it and ad in the uid etc
[12:03] <Rene_> altering
[12:03] <ahoppp> Hi!
[12:03] <ahoppp> What does Ubuntu use for automounting USB sticks?
[12:03] <EriC^^> ahoppp: gvfs
[12:03] <ahoppp> It works very well, but I don't know what it is
[12:03] <AdvoWork> Ben64, its made it on, /media/user/BACKUP2 so im trying to make a new folder within their
[12:03] <l9> EriC^^: the fishes that is swiming on the screen is reflecktions from his cam
[12:03] <AdvoWork> *there
[12:03] <EriC^^> ahoppp: udisksctl
[12:03] <k1l> ahoppp: gfvs
[12:03] <[n0mad]> AdvoWork: it's mounting read only
[12:04] <ahoppp> udisks or gfvs ?
[12:04] <Ben64> [n0mad]: no
[12:04] <l9> EriC^^: has the newest LTS gotten released ?
[12:04] <EriC^^> if you want to use the terminal to mount using it
[12:04] <k1l> ahoppp: gvfs
[12:04] <Ben64> AdvoWork: try "sudo touch /media/user/BACKUP2/test"
[12:04] <ahoppp> I want to install the same on my RaspPi : automounting of USB key
[12:04] <k1l> (sorry had a typo before)
[12:04] <ahoppp> and I'm struggling with "autofs" since 2 hours :(
[12:05] <ahoppp> but on Ubuntu it works perfect :)
[12:05] <AdvoWork> Ben64, that worked
[12:05] <Ben64> ahoppp: you should be asking #raspberrypi then
[12:05] <ahoppp> Ben64: I did on #archlinux-arm
[12:05] <Ben64> AdvoWork: then you need to use sudo to copy/move stuff, or make your user the owner of it
[12:05] <l9> ahoppp: whats the problem ?
[12:05] <k1l> ahoppp: then ask the OS you use there for help with it. ubuntu desktop uses gvfs. we cant help you on other OS
[12:05] <Ben64> ahoppp: ok, good. you should not be asking #ubuntu about non-ubuntu issues
[12:05] <EriC^^> l9: it's being released today, it's not a lts though
[12:06] <ahoppp> Ben64: kll: I ask here because I wanted to know the name of what Ubuntu uses for this
[12:06] <Rene_> touch makes a read only drive writable ?
[12:06] <AdvoWork> Ben64, for this exercise it would be so much easier if i can have gui access due to the amount of files/folders im trying to backup, how do i make my user the owner of it?
[12:06] <Ben64> Rene_: no
[12:07] <l9> WoLFMaN: you alived or did the computer eat you ?
[12:07] <Ben64> AdvoWork: probably "sudo chown $USER /media/rich/BACKUP2"
[12:07] <Garo_> Hello. It seems that us-east-1.ec2.archive.ubuntu.com is partially broken. Not sure where to fill a bug report. proof: curl -I http://us-east-1.ec2.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/w/watershed/watershed_6_amd64.deb gives 503 error.
[12:08] <AdvoWork> Ben64, got it, thanks, and thanks Rene_
[12:08] <l9> EriC^^: was certain that this release was an LTS, you tried upgrading too it ? +
[12:08] <Rene_> np
[12:08] <Ben64> AdvoWork: protip - you can use rsync in the terminal for backing stuff up
[12:08] <Rene_> im just a noob :D
[12:08] <Ben64> l9: LTS is every 2 years
[12:08] <EriC^^> l9: nope, i'm running 14.04, i'll probably install it to a vm though
[12:09] <k1l> l9: its not LTS. LTS is only every 2 years. 12.04, 14.04, .....
[12:09] <Kartagis> hi
[12:09] <ajkerr> Hi there - we are having severe problems in AWS us-east-1 this morning.
[12:09] <ajkerr> E: Failed to fetch http://us-east-1.ec2.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/a/autogen/autogen_5.18-2ubuntu2_amd64.deb 503 Service Unavailable [IP: 54.196.25.178 80]
[12:09] <Rene_> when an lts comes out it has 5 years support or is it more ?
[12:09] <Garo_> ajkerr: you aren't the only one
[12:09] <EriC^^> Rene_: yeah 5 years
[12:09] <k1l> ajkerr: Garo_ change mirror?
[12:10] <Garo_> k1l: yeah. us-west-1 mirror works
[12:10] <l9> k1l yeah i know but normally i dont even check what version ubuntu are on cause i am down under doing bsd stuff
[12:10] <ajkerr> Is anyone looking into the issue?
[12:10] <mcphail> ajkerr: I suspect the mirrors will be melting today
[12:11] <mistralol> ajkerr works find for me
[12:11] <Kartagis> I'm running 14.04 atm and alt+tab is not working even though I set it in keyboard shortcuts. this is annoying
[12:11] <Laurenceb__> hi, can anyone help me with samba?
[12:11] <Laurenceb__> sudo mount -a mount error(13): Permission denied
[12:11] <Ben64> Laurenceb__: ask your question to find out
[12:12] <graingert> hmm the ISOs are out but update-manage doesn't suggest an upgrade
[12:12] <Kartagis> Laurenceb__: no access
[12:12] <Laurenceb__> i dont know why im getting an error
[12:12] <Laurenceb__> i recently changed the password, so ive edited the credentials file
[12:12] <Laurenceb__> and restarted smbd
[12:12] <Ben64> Laurenceb__: permission appears to be denied. make sure you have the right username,password,ip,share name, etc
[12:12] <Laurenceb__> is there anything else i need to restart?
[12:13] <WoLFMaN> No luck
[12:13] <WoLFMaN> No luck
[12:13] <k1l> Laurenceb__: change the password on the samba server with smbpasswd -a USER
[12:13] <k1l> WoLFMaN: stop spamming the channel.
[12:15] <ajkerr> @mcphail why would the mirrors be melting? because of new release?
[12:15] <iBurley> Happy 15.04 day, everybody!
[12:15] <Rene_> :D
[12:15] <ajkerr> I guess that answers my question...
[12:15] <mcphail> ajkerr: :)
[12:16] <l9> WoLFMaN: no the computer shall not light on fire when booted, so if that is what you are trying todo you had success. if not please share why and what errors you get
[12:17] <Rene_> i have a fire extinguiser ready next to the pc on boot o.O
[12:17] <ioria> ajkerr, the mirro is ok
[12:17] <NoOova> How to disable line breaks for less or for more?
[12:17] <NoOova> I want to view logs
[12:17] <NoOova> with long lines
[12:17] <ajkerr> @ioria - it must be load related then. seems to be intermittent.
[12:18] <Rene_> copy file and/or remove line breaks ?.?
[12:19] <l9> i have better luck cause i have an lighter next too my keyboard
[12:19] <Laurenceb__> ok I just checked with the BOFH
[12:19] <Laurenceb__> password works fine
[12:19] <Laurenceb__> something is wrong with my samba config
[12:20] <k1l> Laurenceb__: did you set the smbpassword like i told you on the smb server?
[12:20] <l9> Laurenceb__ config check ?
[12:20] <Laurenceb__> i dont realylfollow
[12:20] <ioria> Laurenceb__, why -a flag ?
[12:20] <Laurenceb__> i am trying to connect to a server
[12:20] <Laurenceb__> ill pastebin my config, as i dont understand
[12:20] <ioria> Laurenceb__, it mounts all
[12:20] <k1l> Laurenceb__: scroll up and re read what is worte
[12:21] <k1l> *wrote
[12:21] <Laurenceb__> change the password on the samba server with smbpasswd -a USER
[12:21] <Laurenceb__> im using a credentials file
[12:21] <k1l> Laurenceb__: yes, and that is broken
[12:21] <l9> WoLFMaN: i know your answer, you should boot into rescue mode :D
[12:22] <WoLFMaN> http://paste.ubuntu.com/10871039/
[12:23] <Rene_> <WoLFMaN> wow is the last screen space invaders starting ?
[12:23] <Laurenceb__> Failed to add entry for user <foo>
[12:23] <Laurenceb__> I'll see if BOFH can help me
[12:23] <fufulame> how do i keep software up-to-date? some programs via apt-get are older than the ones on their githubs. installing via github is fine, but how do i keep that up to date?
[12:23] <l9> they always catches on fire when i do that, wtf?
[12:24] <Rene_> but yeh rescue mode sounds like a good idea
[12:24] <MonkeyDust> !latest | fufulame
[12:25] <fufulame> !ppa
[12:25] <fufulame> !sru
[12:25] <l9> WoLFMaN: have you tried rescue mode
[12:25] <l9> WoLFMaN: what does mv file ../. do ?
[12:25] <k1l> fufulame: ubuntu only updates most program version once on the release date. so it stays the same. but ubuntu patches that version with security and heavy bug patches.
[12:26] <l9> and WoLFMaN is vi a word or a command ?
[12:27] <WoLFMaN> Where is vi?
[12:28] <l9> a place in italy
[12:28] <Rene_> is that now like vim ? the text editor ?
[12:28] <MonkeyDust> Rene_ vim mean vi improved
[12:28] <WoLFMaN> rescue mode loads to menu
[12:28] <MonkeyDust> means*
[12:29] <Rene_> ^.^ yeh thats what i ment, they r the same thingy sort of
[12:29] <WoLFMaN> recovery mode
[12:29] <MonkeyDust> tehe same but different
[12:29] <WoLFMaN> what is rescue mode
[12:29] <Rene_> in rescue mode you can get to a text promt, to fix stuff like graphics drivers or other issius
[12:30] <Rene_> or fix other stuff
[12:36] <guest-VCIqzm> how do i change my username to connect on undernet in irssi?
[12:36] <Kartagis> I'm running 14.04 atm and alt+tab is not working even though I set it in keyboard shortcuts. this is annoying. can you help?
[12:37] <guest-VCIqzm> i could not connect to undernet because of bad username
[12:37] <k1l> guest-VCIqzm: /nick newnick
[12:37] <guest-VCIqzm> oh
[12:37] <guest-VCIqzm> ty
[12:38] <k1l> Kartagis: what desktop are you on?
[12:38] <solrac> #lubuntu
[12:38] <Kartagis> k1l: gnome
[12:39] <k1l> hmm., alt+tab works on unity
[12:40] <Rene_> what keyboard lay out are you using, is it the correct one for the keyboard ?
[12:42] <Rene_> system settings -> layout settings -> there are some extra choices maybe its the wrong layout ?
[12:43] <Rene_> system settings -> keyboard --> layout settings -> there are some extra choices maybe its the wrong layout ?
[12:43] <l9> did wolfman fix it dont see him
[12:44] <Rene_> he didnt say anything anymore, maybe he is in text mode atm doing stuff
[12:46] <BlueByte-> Is there a set of instructions to update openssl. I am having a hell of a time getting Ubuntu to patch.
[12:46] <k1l> BlueByte-: patch for what? a cve?
[12:46] <cfhowlett> BlueByte-, sudo apt-get dist-upgrade should do it
[12:47] <OerHeks> BlueByte-, if you updated, you are patched
[12:47] <BlueByte-> It doesn't, it stays at version 1.0.1f. Looking to patch fallback
[12:47] <OerHeks> THat 1.0.1f isn't equal to the ssl numbering
[12:48] <OerHeks> !heartbleed
[12:48] <thms> old news is old
[12:48] <cfhowlett> "recent ..."
[12:48] <BlueByte-> Ok, when I test for fallback it's still not enabled. And I can't seem to find a config somewhere to turn it on
[12:49] <k1l> BlueByte-: fallback?
[12:49] <BlueByte-> TLS_FALLBACK_SCSV is not enabled
[12:50] <rmariotti> Hi, i've just built a new kernel, looking in /boot i notaiced that the initrd of the custom kernel is 5 times bigger than generic's initrd (~100 mb vs ~20 mb). it is normal?
[12:51] <MonkeyDust> rmariotti #ubuntu-kernel
[12:51] <ioria> prevent hack attack, i think
[12:52] <rmariotti> MonkeyDust: thx
[12:53] <k1l> BlueByte-: please show a "apt-cache policy openssl"
[12:54] <BlueByte-> Ok will hop on, thx
[12:55] <k1l> well, http://www.ubuntu.com/usn/usn-2385-1/ says its included since 10.2014. so there is something wrong on that system anyway.
[12:56] <jayjo> how do I split my terminal window with screen?
[12:56] <jayjo> the screen command seemed to put me in a new windows
[12:57] <vlt> jayjo: Ctrl+A, S
[12:57] <vlt> jayjo: Ctrl+a, S <==
[12:59] <OerHeks> jayjo, there is a 'new tab' function in terminal
[13:00] <jayjo> vlt: that's exactly what I wanted!
[13:00] <jayjo> thanks!
[13:00] <kanupatar> hi guys
[13:00] <Rene_> o/
[13:01] <BlueByte-> Sorry had to jump on. Installed 1.0.1f-ubuntu2.11
[13:01] <kanupatar> unfortuantely I removed the initrd.img from /
[13:01] <kanupatar> how can i recover?
[13:01] <rahulprodev> is ubuntu 15.04 released?
[13:01] <kanupatar> I have created softlink again but not coming up the GUI login
[13:01] <k1l> rahulprodev: see in #ubuntu-release-party
[13:01] <kanupatar> can see commandline login but not ready to use
[13:02] <rahulprodev> k1l thanks\
[13:02] <Rene_> <kanupatar>: isnt there an old back up file in the root dir ?
[13:02] <Rene_> initrd.img.old
[13:03] <kanupatar> Rene_: cannot see
[13:03] <Rene_> with me there is an initrd.img.old try to cp initrd.img.old initrd.img ?
[13:03] <kanupatar> not I have initrd.img->/boot/initrd.img-3.13.0-32-generic
[13:03] <chotaz`w> I'm trying to use sed and a regex to replace some occurencies of customization on my .desktop files. I'm having a bit of trouble understand why the error happens. If anyone doesn't mind taking a peak: http://paste.ubuntu.com/10871206/
[13:04] <kanupatar> Rene_: dont have that file man
[13:04] <kanupatar> please help
[13:04] <kanupatar> I am screwed
[13:05] <pbx> anyone using an apple cinema display? i've been using 'acdcontrol' to set brightness and it just stopped working
[13:05] <Rene_> you dont have older boot files in the boot folder from earlier kernels, iaw can you boot with an earlier kernel ?
[13:06] <Rene_> @kanupatar
[13:06] <kanupatar> Rene_: no
[13:06] <kanupatar> now am at logged in commandline
[13:06] <kanupatar> and at root
[13:07] <kanupatar> Rene_: ^^
[13:07] <pbx> oh never mind, it's working again
[13:07] <Rene_> we need more profesional aid for this :) im out of ideas for the moment
[13:08] <kanupatar> Rene_: okay. can someone from this channel help me?
[13:08] <kanupatar> I am using ubuntu 14.04.1
[13:10] <Rene_> maybe you need to reinstall the kernel or something ?.? or what ever makes those files for booting so it gets recreated ?
[13:10] <Rene_> not sure how those images work
[13:10] <batden> http://releases.ubuntu.com/15.04/
[13:10] <batden> 15.04 is here
[13:11] <Rene_> \o/ party time
[13:11] <batden> :)
[13:11] <Rene_> :)
[13:11] <k1l_> batden: dont do that. wait for the official announcment
[13:11] <Rene_> awww
[13:11] <k1l_> !party | batden
[13:12] <Rene_> i didnt know there was a party channel :D
[13:12] <ht3k> Where's the party channel for the new release? :D
[13:13] <k1l_> dont post links before announce to let the servers and mirrors sync the right iso first
[13:13] <Rene_> #ubuntu-release-party
[13:13] <ht3k> awesome
[13:13] <Rene_> ^.^
[13:13] <kanupatar> Rene_: no man...i need the same one
[13:14] <Rene_> maybe there is some undelete tool ?
[13:15] <Rene_> https://askubuntu.com/questions/3883/how-to-recover-deleted-files
[13:15] <OerHeks> Rene_, nope, when removed on comandline, there is no trashbin
[13:15] <Rene_> awww Q.Q
[13:15] <OerHeks> time to backup your data, and reinstall. valuable lesson not to remove things.
[13:16] <Rene_> http://extundelete.sourceforge.net/ is named
[13:16] <Rene_> with command line stuff
[13:16] <kanupatar> OerHeks: my God
[13:16] <kanupatar> no other ways?
[13:16] <Rene_> i mean in win u could on dos also try to undelete files as they where still in the file system only marked as deleted idk if this works like that
[13:16] <blz> Hi guys... I just did something stupid and nuked my $PATH ... what is it's default value?
[13:17] <Rory> /usr/local/sbin:/usr/local/bin:/usr/sbin:/usr/bin:/sbin:/bin:/usr/games
[13:17] <blz> thanks Rory!
[13:17] <Rory> np blz we've all been there
[13:17] <k1l_> kanupatar: dont you have an old kernel installed?
[13:17] <blz> Rory, haha kicking myself so hard right now ^^
[13:17] <kanupatar> k1l_: no
[13:18] <kanupatar> I have logged into the kernel commandline
[13:18] <kanupatar> can see all files
[13:18] <kanupatar> but GUI login is failed
[13:18] <kanupatar> can boot
[13:18] <k1l_> kanupatar: well. load a live-dvd/usb and chroot into there and reinstall the linux-generic
[13:18] <kanupatar> k1l_: ok...what is the steps?
[13:18] <kanupatar> k1l_: any links?
[13:19] <kanupatar> k1l_: I have same usb bootable
[13:19] <kanupatar> k1l_: how to do this?
[13:19] <kanupatar> I only deleted, /initrd.img
[13:19] <kanupatar> and which is given in grub.cfg
[13:20] <Rene_> normaly it's only a link to the generic_pea img
[13:20] <blz> Phew, back in business! :)
[13:20] <kanupatar> Rene_: yes, I created the link
[13:20] <kanupatar> ln -s - -
[13:20] <Dev_> Hi
[13:21] <Rene_> well you have booted also, so is it not a graphics problem then atm ?
[13:21] <Rene_> as you have recreated the file
[13:22] <Dev_> I have installed ubuntu 14.04 but everything getting crash like eclipse juno, chrome also not working
[13:22] <ilyas> Hi
[13:22] <kanupatar> Rene_: yes, recreated the file immediately after deleting it
[13:23] <kanupatar> Rene_: k1l_ X11 is not running
[13:23] <Dev_> Hello
[13:23] <Rene_> yeh so u need to get x11 back running basicly
[13:23] <Dev_> I have installed ubuntu 14.04 but everything getting crash like eclipse juno, chrome also not working
[13:23] <k1l_> kanupatar: sorry, cant find a good howto in english
[13:23] <ilyas> How can I kill X ? I want to do an X11 forwarding but I have already an X11 in the distant computer which is on ubuntu ?
[13:23] <Rene_> sudo service lightdm stop
[13:23] <kanupatar> Rene_: the error I am getting when startx is xinit: connection to x server lost
[13:24] <kanupatar> k1l_: sorry, I am in hurry
[13:24] <kanupatar> k1l_: dont mis understand
[13:25] <kanupatar> Rene_: unknown instance
[13:26] <Rene_> maybe the x11.conf file is wrong in /etc/X11
[13:26] <Rene_> can you boot in rescue mode with safe graphics ?
[13:26] <Rene_> if it works you can rest the graphics settings in the gui
[13:26] <Rene_> reset*
[13:27] <kanupatar> Rene_: how?
[13:27] <Rene_> if you boot in grub you can chose on boot to go in to resque mode
[13:27] <Rene_> after that you can say to boot with safemode graphics
[13:28] <kanupatar> Rene_: let me check..you mean recovery mode?
[13:28] <Tekkkz> Hello, I'm on Ubuntu 14.04 and want to use the ATMEGA32u4 Breakout Board from Adafruit with the CDC Bootloader and the programmer type for that avr109. Here is my udev rule: http://pastebin.com/AbSM8X5v and when I want to flash with avrdude it is everytime: device busy; how t ofix this?
[13:28] <Rene_> yes
[13:28] <Rene_> another option = https://askubuntu.com/questions/21309/how-to-restore-xserver
[13:29] <Rene_> or you can run a driver script from nvidia (what i do for my pc)
[13:29] <Rene_> probely amd has them too
[13:29] <Rene_> as i like to have the latest driver
[13:30] <kanupatar> Rene_: the failsafe graphix mode is not working
[13:30] <Rene_> you can either try to fix the problem like described in https://askubuntu.com/questions/21309/how-to-restore-xserver iaw booting with a live cd and fixing it from there
[13:31] <Rene_> or you can download a driver for your card from nvidia or ati
[13:31] <Rene_> and run their script/driver-install from the command line
[13:31] <Rene_> i use nvidia and it always fixes any x11 problems i got
[13:31] <Rene_> it will make a fresh conf etc
[13:31] <yossarianuk> Ubuntu really needs to offer the latest nvidia driver - it would solve many issues
[13:32] <Rene_> yeh, i dont mind, the command line installer from nvidia is amazing
[13:32] <Rene_> just set it to build kms or what ever its named modules for the kernel and write a new x11.conf and ur up and running
[13:33] <kanupatar> Rene_: brought up the network
[13:33] <kanupatar> and sudo apt-get updarte is working
[13:33] <Rene_> when ur back in the gui you can always fallback to the original ubuntu suplied drivers
[13:33] <yossarianuk> rene_: yes thats what I do , however sometimes xorg updates require you to re-install rthe driver
[13:34] <Rene_> yeh, i made my own script to quickly reinstall the latest driver
[13:34] <Rene_> i just boot in to text mode from grub
[13:34] <Rene_> removing quiet splash with text
[13:34] <Rene_> and reinstall the driver and done
[13:34] <Rene_> when i get in to x11 problems
[13:35] <nop_per> ubuntu isnt using X11
[13:36] <kanupatar> Rene_: how to reinstall linux-generic from apt-get?
[13:37] <Rene_> sudo apt-get install --reinstall linux-image-generic linux-image
[13:37] <kanupatar> Rene_: will it install my default 3.13 image?
[13:37] <Rene_> i guess it wil reinstall the latest kernel
[13:38] <Rene_> idk if thats 3.13
[13:38] <kanupatar> Rene_: means?
[13:38] <Rene_> you had an old kernel installed ?
[13:38] <Tekkkz> can someone help pls? Hello, I'm on Ubuntu 14.04 and want to use the ATMEGA32u4 Breakout Board from Adafruit with the CDC Bootloader and the programmer type for that avr109. Here is my udev rule: http://pastebin.com/AbSM8X5v and when I want to flash with avrdude it is everytime: device busy; how t ofix this?
[13:38] <kanupatar> How can I reinatall 3.13.0-32-generic
[13:39] <kanupatar> I have 3.13.0-32-generic
[13:39] <Rene_> sudo update-initramfs -u -k 3.13.0-32-generic-pae
[13:40] <Rene_> sudo update-grub
[13:40] <kanupatar> Please hold
[13:40] <Dev__> Hi
[13:40] <Rene_> after that
[13:40] <Dev__> Can anybody help me
[13:40] <cfhowlett> !ask | Dev_,
[13:41] <Kully3xf_> how do I clear out sendmail cache
[13:42] <Dev__> i have installed Fresh Ubuntu 14.04 but everything getting crash like eclipse juno, google chrome. getting crash whenever am opening this.
[13:42] <Youtube1> How do I download a whole playlist in terminal off youtube with youtube-dl?
[13:43] <cfhowlett> Youtube1, see man youtube-dl the video download options
[13:43] <FourFire> Hi!
sounds bad, try a re-install or if it just doesnt work try another ubuntu version ?
[13:44] <Youtube1> cfhowlett, do I type youtube-dl?
[13:44] <EriC^^> !checksum | Dev__
[13:44] <FourFire> so I'm using wine to run an old game TES IV: Oblivion and it just randomly freezes sometimes, I've been told this is an xserver issue
[13:44] <cfhowlett> Youtube1, http://paste.ubuntu.com/10871418/
[13:44] <FourFire> so now it's happened again, what can I do to avoid restarting the whole computer?
[13:45] <FourFire> I have wine in windowed mode with a virtual desktop
[13:45] <FourFire> the whole session is frozen
do you have play on linux ? if you do or install it you could try to run the game with different wine flavours
[13:45] <rking> Short of restarting X, not much.
[13:45] <FourFire> yes I'm using PoL, the latest umm special version
[13:46] <FourFire> the one with the bugfixes
[13:46] <Rene_> ah k
[13:46] <FourFire> rking, how to?
[13:46] <fertrty> 11
[13:46] <Rene_> yeh i try out different wine version if stuff doesn't work properly, see if any other wines work better
[13:47] <Youtube1> cfhowlett, Thanks!
[13:47] <FourFire> I tried with the initial wine in the ubuntu 14.10 repo
[13:47] <cfhowlett> Youtube1, happy2help!
[13:47] <FourFire> now this is the latest version installable by PoL
[13:47] <FourFire> How do I unfreeze the machine without hard restarting it?
[13:47] <Rene_> it's just an idea, i don't know about any x glitches sorry
[13:48] <Rene_> you can try to get to a terminal window
[13:48] <Rene_> like ctrl+alt+f1
[13:48] <rking> Control+Alt+Backspace if you enabled it. Or ^
[13:48] <FourFire> perhaps I should use a VM next time and run wine + my game inside it so I can just close the VM whenever it freezes
[13:48] <Rene_> and then do a sudo service lightdm stop
[13:48] <Rene_> to kill x
[13:49] <Rene_> and then a sudo service lightdm start
[13:49] <thms> How do I tell dpkg -i to install required dependencies ?
[13:49] <zzarr> OMG... Vivid is a speed monster
[13:49] <thms> Trying to install bluej
[13:49] <FourFire> ctr + alt + f1 - f6 doesn't do anything
[13:49] <FourFire> same with backspace
[13:49] <Rene_> :(
[13:49] <FourFire> I'll try blind terminal
[13:50] <FourFire> nope
[13:50] <rking> ctrl+alt+bspace won't do anything unless you enable it. I would if you plan on to keep trying it to fix it.
[13:50] <FourFire> rking, yes
[13:50] <FourFire> I'
[13:50] <theag3nt> thms, IIRC apt-get install -f
[13:50] <FourFire> ll reboot the machine now
[13:50] <Kully3xf_> where to look if my aws mail server has been ahcked on ubuntu
[13:50] <Kully3xf_> it's sending out thousands and thousands of emails a second
[13:51] <Kully3xf_> sendmail and postfix
[13:51] <rking> plug the ethernet
[13:51] <rking> you're domain will get blacklisted
[13:51] <Rene_> if your hacked, best do a format & reinstall
[13:51] <rking> in a heartbeat
[13:51] <zzarr> I found a new driver "microcode firmware for intel cpus" what dose it do?
[13:51] <FourFire> good thing I've got an SSD, no worries about data corrupting or dead drives
[13:51] <Kully3xf_> it's aws there's no ethernet
[13:51] <Kully3xf_> I stopped the services and it's stopped
[13:52] <rking> you're amazon hosted server got hacked? 0.o
[13:52] <rking> your*
[13:52] <rking> IT woulda flagged your system by now. Unless it literally just happened.
[13:53] <FourFire> ok it's back up
[13:53] <Rene_> ^.^
[13:53] <BlackHorn> Can anyone help me? I'm trying to log in to my ubuntu session and it keeps showing a black screen and then going back to the login page. I recently edited my PATH so I thought it could be that, so commented out the lines in my .bashrc file that edited my PATH and my PATH is normal, but I still can't log in. I've deleted my XAuthority file too and also checked .profile to see if there is anything wrong with that. Anyone got any sug
[13:54] <rking> Did you backup before you edited that?
[13:55] <FourFire> how to enable this alt + backspace
[13:55] <johnv> it's April 23 where is 15.04?
[13:55] <EriC^^> BlackHorn: does the guest account right?
[13:55] <rking> @johnv Depends on your time zone for release
[13:56] <OerHeks> johnv, yes, good question.
[13:56] <BlackHorn> guest doesn't work either.
[13:56] <johnv> USA Kansas
[13:56] <EriC^^> BlackHorn: it might be a graphics driver issue, did you do any updates recently?
[13:56] <BlackHorn> ....Damn it....Yeah, I installed CUDA...
[13:57] <BlackHorn> I just needed the nvcc compiler, but it did try to install a graphics driver. It must have done that.
[13:57] <rking> @johnv Release is this evening.
[13:57] <EriC^^> purge and reinstall what you were using BlackHorn
[13:57] <BlackHorn> I installed it with a .deb, do you know how i could uninstall it?
[13:58] <TaZeR> comon 15.04 come to us baby
[13:58] <rking> get the package and then a normal apt-get remove
[13:58] <rking> name*
[13:58] <johnv> ok thanks
[13:58] <BlackHorn> ok. one sec.
[13:58] <BlackHorn> Will try it.
[13:58] <EriC^^> BlackHorn: did you download the .deb or it made it itself?
[13:58] <apxcr> rking: how do you know release is this evening? :O
[13:58] <rking> @apxcr Best friend works for canonical.
[13:58] <rking> Just called him. ha
[13:59] <TaZeR> ubuntu-mate devs said 6 hours 4 hours ago
[13:59] <TaZeR> so maybe soon
[13:59] <TaZeR> they all release at same time
[13:59] <EriC^^> BlackHorn: if a script made the .deb it might have an uninstall feature, or maybe it created an uninstall script in /usr/share/something
[13:59] <yossarianuk> The isos are already in the mirrors btw
[13:59] <Pici> /70/70
[13:59] <EriC^^> BlackHorn: otherwise try sudo apt-get purge <package> and reinstall the old driver
[13:59] <yossarianuk> (not sending any links as previously got banned.)
[14:00] <rking> @tazer, Yeah. My buddy told me the release will be this evening. Which means mid afternoon for us cst users.
[14:00] <Rene_> this evening gmt ?
[14:00] <apxcr> rking: CST here as well, sweet.
[14:02] <BlackHorn> I think you might be right about it being graphical. It's came up with a message about low graphics now. Now i've uninstalled the stuff.
[14:03] <BlackHorn> can you tell me how to install the default graphics driver? I think that might have uninstalled somehow.
[14:03] <BlackHorn> or been overwritten
[14:04] <BlackHorn> wait! i'm in!
[14:04] <BlackHorn> It's working. Thanks for the help.
[14:04] <BlackHorn> ....word of advice to everyone here....Don't install CUDA
[14:05] <MonkeyDust> BlackHorn never heard of it, before you mentioned it, thanks, i'll try it soon
[14:05] <Rene_> i have had no problem with CUDA, but im using nvidia's own drivers not ubuntu, depends on also how new your card is
[14:05] <ht3k> BlackHorn: I think that goes without saying lol
[14:13] <FourFire> Rene_, oh yes worth mentioning: I have installed cuda 7.0 and used the propritary driver therein
[14:13] <ht3k> NVIDIA proprietary drivers are point point. AMD on the other hand...
[14:14] <rockstar_> How can I annotate(highlight) pdf with Okular, such that it is also visible in windows?
[14:14] <raojin> hello everyone
[14:15] <ht3k> raojin: hi
[14:15] <Rene_> i had problems with cuda when my card was new, later it worked good
[14:15] <rockstar_> I know this is Ubuntu application specific question, but enlighten me if anybody knows the answer. :)
[14:15] <Rene_> 42 ?
[14:15] <raojin> how do we speak with voice?
[14:16] <Pici> raojin: on IRC? You don't.
[14:17] <kanupatar> Rene_: hello
[14:17] <Rene_> o/
[14:18] <kanupatar> installed another kernel
[14:18] <kanupatar> but same issues persists
[14:18] <kanupatar> any file system corruption?
[14:18] <kanupatar> now I have 3.13..0-32
[14:18] <Rene_> your problem is to start x right , that you do not get in to the gui ?
[14:18] <kanupatar> and 49
[14:18] <kanupatar> Rene_: yes
[14:18] <OerHeks> startx is depreciated, use sudo service lightdm start.
[14:18] <Rene_> what graphics card are you using ?
[14:19] <kanupatar> Rene_: how can I check?
[14:19] <Rene_> yeh i think he can not start x at all, but does a sudo service lightdm start do anything ?
[14:19] <OerHeks> maybe worth a !factoid
[14:21] <Rene_> try glxinfo
[14:21] <Rene_> it should give a vendor name etc
[14:21] <chotaz`w> anyone fluent in sed? I'm been trying to replace any occurrences of 'Icon=/some/path/here.png' to 'Icon=here' on all my .desktop files. I used the following regexp https://regex101.com/r/jX4vA7/1 and it /should/ work, but the result I'm having is none of the like. I ran sudo sed -i -r -e 's:(Icon=).*/(.*)(.png):&&:g' *.desktop
[14:21] <kanupatar> lightdm -> cannot start
[14:21] <Rene_> glxinfo
[14:21] <kanupatar> glxinfo-> not installed
[14:22] <kanupatar> going to install that now
[14:22] <Rene_> in the lines there is your card name like with me
[14:22] <kanupatar> Rene_: ?
[14:22] <Rene_> OpenGL renderer string: GeForce GTX 660/PCIe/SSE2/3DNOW!
[14:22] <Rene_> do glxinfo in a console
[14:22] <Rene_> search for the crad name
[14:22] <Rene_> card*
[14:22] <kanupatar> Rene_: oing to install that
[14:23] <kanupatar> *going
[14:23] <kanupatar> Rene_: hold on
[14:23] <wafflejock> kanupatar, you can find your graphics card using, lspci -k, or sudo lshw, as well
[14:23] <kanupatar> wafflejock: wait
[14:24] <OerHeks> kanupatar, did you manage to put that initrd.img back ?
[14:24] <kanupatar> OerHeks: installed kernel
[14:24] <kanupatar> and I can see it
[14:25] <kanupatar> sudo apt-get install --reinstall linux-image-generic***
[14:25] <kanupatar> sudo update-grub
[14:25] <kanupatar> now I see three kernels
[14:25] <Rene_> :D
[14:25] <kanupatar> 32-lowlatency
[14:25] <kanupatar> 32
[14:25] <kanupatar> 49
[14:25] <kanupatar> :P
[14:26] <OerHeks> kanupatar, so you have initrd.img in / ?
[14:26] <kanupatar> OerHeks: yes
[14:27] <kanupatar> both old and
[14:27] <kanupatar> other
[14:28] <kanupatar> Rene_: unable to locate glxinfo
[14:28] <kanupatar> wafflejock: lspci -k, or sudo lshw , what is the exat grep string?
[14:28] <Rene_> you need to know your gpu, because then you can simply download and install the driver from ati or nvidia, and it will repair x, if you then want to use the ubuntu suplied driver you can set it again from the gui
[14:29] <zombyrad> try lspci | grep VGA
[14:30] <kanupatar> zombyrad: Rene_ wafflejock OerHeks Intel second gen core family integrated controller rev 09
[14:30] <TJ-> kanupatar: "lspci -nn | grep '\[030' "
[14:30] <Rene_> or intel :')
[14:30] <Rene_> mmmm
[14:30] <kanupatar> TJ-: Rene_ Intel Intel Intel :(
[14:30] <zombyrad> Intel *should* be supported in the kernel, no?
[14:30] <Rene_> idk if they suply drivers for linux lets search
[14:31] <kanupatar> Rene_: my machine was working for the last one year
[14:31] <kanupatar> today only the issue came
[14:31] <TJ-> kanupatar: Silly question. Tell us the precise PCI ID of the device that the command I gave you reports, its at the end of the line and surrounded by square brackets, e.g. [10de:06f8]
[14:31] <Rene_> im told to do a
[14:31] <Rene_> sudo add-apt-repository ppa:xorg-edgers/ppa && sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade -y
[14:31] <OerHeks> Intel is supported in the kernel, if you want glxinfo, READ the error, it gives you a hint what package you need.
[14:31] <Rene_> mm wait
[14:31] <Rene_> thats a distro update
[14:32] <kanupatar> Rene_: ?
[14:32] <zombyrad> yeah, hold off on upgrades...
[14:32] <Rene_> sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg-video-intel
[14:32] <TJ-> kanupatar: That PCI ID is what device drivers use to uniquely identify the hardware they support, and we can check which driver supports that ID very easily
[14:32] <ronal> Hello!¿Skepak in spanish?
[14:32] <Rene_> sounds better
[14:32] <ronal> skeak
[14:32] <ronal> speak
[14:32] <ronal> x_x
[14:32] <Amm0n> iirc intel dropped support for new drivers in 14.04
[14:33] <kanupatar> TJ-: not clear man
[14:33] <Rene_> The Intel graphics driver is part of the xserver-xorg-video-intel driver package, which is installed on all Ubuntu systems by default. And since it isn't a proprietary driver package, it doesn't show up in jockey (aka the Hardware Drivers application).
[14:33] <OerHeks> Amm0n, wrong
[14:33] <zombyrad> So, Intel should be working without any extra stuff, hmm
[14:33] <Rene_> sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg-video-intel should reinstall it if its lost
[14:33] <ronal> Problem games run dirver grafcis [No GPU]
[14:33] <TJ-> !es | ronal
[14:33] <ronal> garfics
[14:33] <OerHeks> !es | ronal
[14:34] <kanupatar> sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg-video-intel --> installinh
[14:34] <ronal> Gracias ubottu
[14:34] <ronal> Yes!!! kanupatar
[14:34] <ronal> No
[14:34] <kanupatar> ronal: ?
[14:34] <ronal> no funcion
[14:34] <kanupatar> Rene_: installed
[14:34] <kanupatar> sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg-video-intel
[14:35] <kanupatar> what I should do next?
[14:35] <zombyrad> try rebooting now to load the driver
[14:35] <Rene_> try to boot see if it fixed anything
[14:35] <SlowLight> guys, anyone knows how many hours till the 15.10 final is released?
[14:35] <kanupatar> Rene_: startx failed
[14:35] <Rene_> you booted ?
[14:35] <kanupatar> Rene_: no
[14:35] <zombyrad> kanupatar: did you reboot?
[14:35] <OerHeks> SlowLight, less than 24 hrs, join #ubuntu-release-party for the announcement
[14:35] <kanupatar> just tried startx
[14:36] <Rene_> reboot the system for the drivers to load
[14:36] <chri5p> 15.10?
[14:36] <TJ-> Rene_: No need to reboot for an xorg driver change
[14:36] <Rene_> ow
[14:36] <OerHeks> LoLz, again: startx is depreciated, use sudo service lightdm start.
[14:36] <SlowLight> thanks
[14:36] <kanupatar> rebooting ......
[14:36] <ronal> Super tuxkart message: "driver grafics lost" Alienarena: NO OK resolution my machine: 1440x900
[14:36] * kanupatar is very excited with the channel support
[14:36] <TJ-> Rene_: restarting the X server is sufficient for that. Only need to restart the system if a kernel level driver already has control of the device and an alternative kernel driver needs to be used, such as switching between Nouveau and Nvidia
[14:37] <Rene_> im sorry :)
[14:37] <kanupatar> .....
[14:37] <kanupatar> .....
[14:37] <Rene_> xD
[14:37] <kanupatar> seems stuck
[14:37] <kanupatar> !
[14:37] <kanupatar> ubuntu bubbles!!!
[14:37] <kanupatar> .....
[14:37] <kanupatar> 8 th time
[14:37] <kanupatar> need to wait?
[14:37] <kanupatar> 10th time
[14:37] <Rene_> is there an back up x11.conf file
[14:37] <kanupatar> ......
[14:37] <Rene_> in etc/x11
[14:38] <kanupatar> Rene_: wait
[14:38] <OerHeks> kanupatar, easy on the enter please
[14:38] <Rene_> maybe its corrupted the one ur using
[14:38] <ronal> Goodbye, i bad english!
[14:38] <Rene_> try to copy x11.conf for backup and replace it with x11.conf.old
[14:38] <TJ-> kanupatar: read the log file for clues: /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[14:38] <kanupatar> is there an back up x11.conf file ?
[14:38] <skkkky> hi all
[14:38] <Rene_> yes normaly there is
[14:38] <Rene_> in etc/x11/
[14:39] <Caleb--> how does the 14.10 -> 15.04 update procedure work? i just did apt-get update and apt-get dist-upgrade but i don't see anything
[14:39] <skkkky> ubuntu 15.04 released or not?
[14:39] <somsip> skkkky: yes
[14:39] <ronal> #ubuntu-es
[14:39] <OerHeks> Caleb--, just wait for the release
[14:39] <TJ-> kanupatar: Rene_ In most systems the X server autoconfigures and no "/etc/X11/xorg.conf" exists. There is only such a file if the system needs non-automatic settings
[14:39] <somsip> OerHeks: my bad - still not announced?
[14:39] <Caleb--> OerHeks, ah, woops, i saw it on phoronix
[14:39] <Rene_> or from x11.conf~
[14:40] <OerHeks> 9 minutes ago not, as i can read in #ubuntu-release-party
[14:40] <Rene_> ubuntu doesnt have an x11.conf ?
[14:40] <Caleb--> OerHeks, any idea if i need to manually remove PPA i've added?
[14:40] <Rene_> this is from the nvidia driver ?
[14:40] <Caleb--> PPAs*
[14:40] <kanupatar> hello
[14:41] <Rene_> o/
[14:41] <zombyrad> non-free nvidia still uses xorg.conf I believe
[14:41] <kanupatar> [20:07] <Rene_> in etc/x11
[14:41] <kanupatar> ?
[14:41] <schwing> Caleb--: i just joined to asked that same question! :)
[14:41] <Rene_> TJ can you help kanupatar> then :) ?
[14:41] <OerHeks> Caleb--, that would be a good thing to do, before upgrading. upgrade disables ppa's but i can imagine that it would mess up
[14:41] <skkkky> there's nothing in its web page http://www.ubuntu.com/download/desktop
[14:41] <Amm0n> OerHeks, https://01.org/linuxgraphics/downloads/2015/intelr-graphics-installer-linux-1.0.8
[14:41] <Rene_> as then i dont know i dont got an intel gpu
[14:42] <OerHeks> Amm0n, known site, bad driver for ubuntu.
[14:42] <skkkky> when is it gonna be released?
[14:42] <Rene_> i thought he might have nvidia or ati and could easily reinstall drivers
[14:42] <mantys89> http://www.noobslab.com/2015/04/ubuntu-1504-vivid-vervet-has-been.html
[14:42] <Rene_> from the ati or nvidia site
[14:42] <Caleb--> OerHeks, so after upgrade i would have to manually re-add all PPAs? or just re-enable them?
[14:42] <kanupatar> any clues anyone?
[14:42] <kanupatar> am stcuk
[14:42] <kanupatar> stcuck
[14:42] <kanupatar> stuck
[14:43] <Rene_> yeh im unsure how to repair your setup, people r telling me its not in x11.conf if its not nvidia :(
[14:44] <schwing> Caleb--: looks like you can remove PPAs with the same add-apt-repository command by passing it -r <the PPA>
[14:44] <Rene_> it's weird as your gpu should be recognized automaticly
[14:44] <skkkky> why i can't upgrade my 14.10 to 15.04 ?
[14:44] <kanupatar> Rene_: I am totally lost all
[14:44] <mantys89> http://www.noobslab.com/2015/04/how-to-upgrade-to-ubuntu-1504-vivid.html
[14:44] <Rene_> oh wait intel does suply drivers
[14:44] <Rene_> can u read webpages ?
[14:45] <Rene_> https://downloadcenter.intel.com/download/13815/Intel-Graphics-Drivers-for-Linux-
[14:45] <kanupatar> Rene_: still I am confused if it is x11 issues
[14:45] <OerHeks> Rene_, don't point him at webpages with intel drivers
[14:45] <wafflejock> SlowLight, 15.04
[14:45] <kanupatar> any file system related issue?
[14:45] <zombyrad> Rene_: the intel driver should work automatically too...
[14:45] <OerHeks> that page is a bad driver for ubuntu
[14:45] <kanupatar> it was working last day
[14:45] <OerHeks> Rene_, he messed up his system by removing initrd.img, so advise him to backup data and reinstall
[14:46] <ChunkzZ> where is ubuntu based? what country?
[14:46] <Rene_> oke i dont know about intels drivers, but i do know that installing drivers also normaly fixes any iddues with the system settings automaticly
[14:46] <wafflejock> yeah Rene_ no need for any extra installs for Intel drivers that are built in to work something else is wrong
[14:46] <Zeedox> I've had some apt issues lately. Either apt output stops or the computer crashes. This is the latest output. https://gist.github.com/strokirk/5d4810762105382cb8ce
[14:47] <kanupatar> OerHeks: :(
[14:47] <kanupatar> Rene_: :(
[14:47] <Zeedox> I'm a bit worried about corrupting something by ctrl-c:ing the update-grub step.
[14:47] <Rene_> he can alwyas go back to ubuntu's drivers if the drivers script would auto fix the problem to start the gui, thats the idea behind it anyway
[14:47] <kanupatar> Rene_: OerHeks I have internet working in the console
[14:47] <gingermouse> ChunkzZ: Ubuntu is developed worldwide. There isn't really a single place that it's based.
[14:48] <kanupatar> I can do whatever to fix the issue...
[14:48] <kanupatar> please suggest
[14:48] <ChunkzZ> gingermouse, okay. just it's nearly 4pm and sitll no release..
[14:48] <L0chl4nn> can I completely purge dpkg and then reinstall it after? **Ubuntustudio 14.04.2**
[14:48] <zombyrad> OerHeks: if he removed his initrd, can't he rebuild it?
[14:48] <Rene_> how does intel then read settings if it doesnt use x11.conf ?
[14:48] <SlowLight> @wafflejock yup, sorry my mistake, meant 15.04
[14:49] <kanupatar> TJ-: gone?
[14:49] <zombyrad> Rene_: Xorg uses autodetect for most of its settings now afaik
[14:49] <wafflejock> SlowLight, no big deal just figured I'd throw the correction out there, always year.month 2015.04
[14:49] <johnv> I need my 15.04.
[14:49] <kanupatar> Rene_: also the network only works in recovery mode
[14:49] <Zerkalerka> johnv: me too
[14:49] <TaZeR> johnv: motion seconded
[14:49] <kanupatar> something happened to the fs?
[14:50] <TaZeR> its like waiting for crack
[14:50] <OerHeks> !drugs
[14:51] <wafflejock> I think last year it came out on the 28th for my b-day
[14:51] <wafflejock> nice to get new Ubuntu on your b-day
[14:51] <Pici> !party
[14:51] <SlowLight> @wafflejock thats interesting, I didn't know that!! thanks for sharing
[14:53] <Rene_> what ubuntu version are you using kanupatar ?
[14:53] <L0chl4nn> does anyone know if I can I completely purge dpkg and then reinstall it after? **Ubuntustudio 14.04.2**
[14:53] <kanupatar> 14.04.1
[14:54] <Rene_> ah nvm only drivers anyway for 14.10
[14:54] <wafflejock> L0chl4nn, not sure but what would you be installing dpkg with? also what's wrong with your current dpkg?
[14:55] <Rene_> udo apt-get install --reinstall xserver-xorg-video-intel libgl1-mesa-glx libgl1-mesa-dri xserver-xorg-core
[14:55] <Rene_> sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[14:55] <Rene_> sudo update-alternatives --remove gl_conf /usr/lib/nvidia-current/ld.so.conf
[14:55] <Rene_> is suggested in one help topic
[14:55] <Rene_> sudo*
[14:56] <kanupatar> Rene_: need to do all?
[14:56] <Rene_> yes
[14:56] <L0chl4nn> wafflejock: I'm getting all kinds of errors with dpkg. Countless hours on Google and trying "fixes" have not fixed the problems.
[14:56] <kanupatar> Rene_: please hold
[14:56] <Rene_> first line udo = sudo
[14:56] <kanupatar> Rene_: I need to type
[14:56] <L0chl4nn> wafflejock: according to what I can find dpkg is only "half installed" ... which doesn't make sense to me
[14:57] <wafflejock> L0chl4nn, well would suggest backing up before you try anything with dpkg but can reinstall dpkg using sudo apt-get install dpkg --reinstall, but with regard to purging it then installing I don't believe apt-get can operate without dpkg so you'd probably need to build it from source, have never tried though
[14:58] <wafflejock> L0chl4nn, is this a new install?
[14:59] <L0chl4nn> wafflejock: everything is already backed up as a "just-in-case" fail safe... Yes this is a fresh install, only 2 days old
[14:59] <kanupatar> Rene_: unable to locate package libg11-mesa-glx
[14:59] <wafflejock> L0chl4nn, you still have the install media? would be worth checksumming it and verifying the hash from wherever you downloaded it from
[15:01] <Rene_> sudo apt-get install libgl1-mesa-glx
[15:01] <L0chl4nn> wafflejock: checksum was done before making the liveusb and then installed from there. It was downloaded from the ubuntu torrent *this is my first time ever using one of the torrents to download ubuntu*
[15:01] <wafflejock> L0chl4nn, dpkg itself wouldn't have a problem that's something that would be caught before release I'm sure, I imagine something got corrupted somewhere along the way though, could be something bad in the download or transfer to installation media which a checksum could tell you
[15:01] <kanupatar> sudo add-apt-repository ppa:xorg-edgers/ppa && sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade -y
[15:01] <L0chl4nn> wafflejock: I will do a fresh download and install again if it is the "best" option
[15:01] <Rene_> sudo apt-get install libglu1-mesa
[15:01] <kanupatar> g1l
[15:01] <Rene_> maybe that one too
[15:02] <faust> L0chl4nn: maybe it is your usb key that is broken
[15:02] <wafflejock> L0chl4nn, should be able to checksum the usb device as well just to verify everything copied over correctly
[15:02] <wafflejock> L0chl4nn, if the checksum matches you can be sure the data is the same
[15:02] <philip_> command to install application like java
[15:02] <Rene_> sudo apt-get update
[15:02] <L0chl4nn> faust: same usb key was used the day before to isntall Ubuntu Server onto another machine and all went well with that install. Only difference was that I didn't use torrent to download that image
[15:02] <philip_> please what is the command to install application like java
[15:02] <OerHeks> Can somebody help me ? because some key is missing, we wait 5 days for Firefox 37.0.2 https://launchpadlibrarian.net/203615172/buildlog_ubuntu-utopic-arm64.firefox_37.0.2%2Bbuild1-0ubuntu0.14.10.1_BUILDING.txt.gz
[15:03] <kanupatar> Rene_: wait
[15:03] <kanupatar> I am doing this in recovery mode
[15:03] <kanupatar> taking time
[15:03] <philip_> command to install jre-8u45-linux-x64.tar.gz
[15:03] <philip_> file
[15:03] <wafflejock> L0chl4nn, okay if you checked it after download though I wouldn't suspect the torrent being a problem (really the torrents checksum everything too)
[15:03] <faust> L0chl4nn: if the checksum was correct it doesn't matter if you downloaded it via torrent
[15:03] <link123> http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2015/04/ubuntu-15-04-download-new-features
[15:04] <L0chl4nn> wafflejock, faust, checksum passed after downloading.
[15:04] * faust didn't know that there is someone who actually uses torrent for ubuntu's iso :P
[15:04] <philip_> file
[15:04] <philip_> command to install jre-8u45-linux-x64.tar.gz
[15:04] <L0chl4nn> faust: this was my first time using torrent....
[15:05] <wafflejock> L0chl4nn, need more info on the exact errors you're getting
[15:05] <Rimes> I'm messing around with Docker Containers and am trying to figure out how to get VI installed on a container. The repository for VI is not on there, however, I have no idea how to add it given that I have no text editor to edit the repository list....
[15:06] <faust> L0chl4nn: anyway if you did a "fresh install" just a couple of days ago the "best" thing would be to reinstall the system, I don't knwo what exactly your problem is, but any solution that want you to remove you package manager is going to be messy. So, if you can, avoid it.
[15:06] <L0chl4nn> wafflejock: too many to list. which is why I was thinking a fresh install would maybe be the best option. especially since everything is already backed up
[15:06] <philip_> please command to install jre-8u45-linux-x64.tar.gz
[15:07] <L0chl4nn> faust: my thoughts exactly.
[15:07] <wafflejock> L0chl4nn, yeah agree with faust would be good to try and figure out what the problem is but give it at least one more try with a fresh install and if you have the same problem then come back and can try to find the issue and find or file a bug
[15:07] <kanupatar> Rene_: done
[15:07] <TripWire> I'm looking for a way to automatically switch the sound to my HDMI device when I plug in the cable. I found a solution online, but that's only for Ubunut 12.02 and I'm using 14.04.
[15:07] <OerHeks> philip_, unpack that tar first, click on it, and it opens in fileroller
[15:08] <L0chl4nn> Fresh install it is :) ... Thanks wafflejock & faust
u installed the drivers with ? sudo apt-get install --reinstall xserver-xorg-video-intel libgl1-mesa-glx libgl1-mesa-dri xserver-xorg-core
[15:08] <Rene_> sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[15:08] <OerHeks> !java | better take a look at this page philip_
[15:08] <philip_> oerHeksam using the terminal .
[15:08] <Richard|> Hi, I'm currently booting Ubuntu 14.10 with the kernel 3.16.0-33, as the latest kernel causes an overheating problem with my laptop. If I upgrade to 15.04 will this cause any problems? Should I set GRUB back to default first?
[15:08] <MonkeyDust> philip_ it's a tar file, try tar xvf [package]
[15:08] <alexandros_tab> hi slacker, TripWire!
[15:08] <NoOova> Could i name a my own package 'logging'?
[15:09] <philip_> done that.After that what next
[15:09] <kanupatar> Rene_: I need to do this sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[15:09] <Rene_> k
[15:09] <somsip> !packaging | NoOova
[15:09] <kanupatar> Rene_: done
[15:09] <Rene_> if all is done and it worked, do a sudo service lightdm start
[15:09] <kanupatar> Rene_: now?
[15:10] <kanupatar> Rene_: job failed to stary
[15:10] <Rene_> :'(
[15:10] <kanupatar> I am in recovery mode
[15:10] <kanupatar> do i need to reboot ?
[15:11] <Rene_> you should not have to do that i was told, but you can try
[15:11] <MonkeyDust> philip_ is there no README that tells you how to continue?
[15:11] <Rene_> i will search see if i can findother solutions
[15:12] <kanupatar> Rene_:
[15:12] <kanupatar> ok
[15:13] <Rene_> is there no x11.conf in etc/x11 ?
[15:13] <gingermouse> xorg.conf
[15:13] <demahum> It says here https://insights.ubuntu.com/2015/04/22/here-comes-kilo-15-05-containers-will-never-be-the-same-again/ that new Ubuntu is out, but when I go to the download page, there is no 15.04. Why is this?
[15:13] <Rene_> sorry
[15:14] <gingermouse> demahum: takes a while to get it on the download page.
[15:14] <Rene_> yeh xorg.conf in etc/x11
[15:14] <somsip> demahum: a few places are reporting it is out, but it's not. I got caught by one earlier. Look for official announcement on ubuntu.com
[15:14] <Rene_> i said it worng
[15:14] <gingermouse> Rene_: no worries! ;)
[15:14] <Rene_> :)
[15:14] <demahum> somsip: But this is from insights.ubuntu.com https://insights.ubuntu.com/2015/04/22/here-comes-kilo-15-05-containers-will-never-be-the-same-again/
[15:15] <TaZeR> 15.04 iso's are out grab em here http://torrent.ubuntu.com:6969/
[15:15] <kanupatar> Rene_: wait
[15:15] <Pici> The isos might be ready, but the repository contents are still being finalized, I would wait to install until the announcement is made.
[15:15] <somsip> demahum: "today ...is released" not 'was' or 'has been'.
[15:15] <kanupatar> Rene_: no man
[15:16] <serenoa> does anyone know if 15.04 fixes the display bug with intermittently missing characters/letters
[15:16] <Rene_> no old xorg.conf ? like xorg.conf~ ?
[15:16] <kanupatar> Rene_: instead xorg.conf.failsafe is present
[15:16] <Rene_> oke try to copy that to xorg.conf
[15:16] <Rene_> cp xorg.conf.failsafe xorg.conf
[15:16] <demahum> somsip: And also it can be downloaded from here: http://releases.ubuntu.com/15.04/
[15:17] <kanupatar> Rene_: done
[15:17] <Rene_> and the try to start x again: sudo service lightdm start
[15:17] <kanupatar> reboot?
[15:17] <somsip> demahum: yes - see Pici's comments 2 mins ago
[15:17] <kanupatar> Rene_: same
[15:17] <kanupatar> :(
[15:17] <Rene_> :(
[15:17] <mcphail> serenoa: depends which display bug you're talking about. I think the bug with modern nvidia drivers and compiz is fixed
[15:18] <demahum> somsip: I have seen it. So does not that means it is released?
[15:18] <Rene_> im not realy sure where the problem is :'(
[15:18] <demahum> gingermouse: So, from your experience, how long it will take for it to be at the official download page?
[15:19] <Pici> demahum: personally, I expect it to land in the next 3 hours. Probably sooner.
[15:19] <MonkeyDust> demahum any time now
[15:20] <serenoa> mcphail: i've seen it mentioned on forums, not sure if it has a bug reference. sometimes i get missing characters all over the interface w/ intel hd 5500. at the moment i can't see any keyboard input into unity dash at all
[15:20] <ig0r_> is 15.04 fully baked yet?
[15:20] <mcphail> serenoa: don't know about that one. Sorry.
[15:20] <gingermouse> demahum: maybe noonish if you're in the US.
[15:21] <Pici> ig0r_: yes
[15:21] <Rene_> it's strange as the intel gpu should be running standard
[15:21] <Pici> !outyet
[15:21] <faust> Is there any way to get "https://help.ubuntu.com/lts/index.html" in english instead of my l10n?
[15:23] <demahum> Pici, MonkeyDust, gingermouse: Thanks a lot. :D
[15:23] <ChunkzZ> !outyet
no other solutions seem to pop up in the search as the drivers are normaly included in the kernel
[15:24] <demahum> ChunkzZ: :D
[15:24] <mcphail> Congratulations on the release, to everyone involved
[15:24] <ChunkzZ> I don't see a download link??
[15:25] <demahum> ChunkzZ: You are not the only one. :D
[15:25] <TaZeR> http://torrent.ubuntu.com:6969/
[15:25] <TaZeR> all flavors are there
[15:25] <compdoc> Ubuntu 15.04 (Vivid Vervet) released
[15:25] <demahum> ChunkzZ: We just discussed it takes time to bring it to the download page. :D
[15:26] <kanupatar> Rene_: when I see the boot log, I see starting LighDM display manager failed
[15:27] <Rene_> yeh you can also not start it from the command line, something is going wrong
[15:27] <ChunkzZ> TaZeR, I don't do torrents.
[15:27] <mantys89> http://www.noobslab.com/2015/04/ubuntu-1504-vivid-vervet-has-been.html >> Download links in one place :)
[15:27] <Rene_> sudo service lightdm start , should start it otherwise
[15:27] <kanupatar> Rene_: any issues with runlevels?
[15:27] <OerHeks> ChunkzZ, then go to cdimage.ubuntu.com ?
[15:27] <dhaval2712> If I download ubuntu-server 15.04 and install kubuntu desktop, would I have driver issues as opposed to ubuntu desktop with Unity and everything?
[15:27] <kanupatar> hangs at boot sequence auditin
[15:27] <Rene_> i have no clue, im sort of at a loss what to do next
[15:28] <ChunkzZ> OerHeks, I would if it was there.
[15:28] <kanupatar> Rene_: its okay man
[15:28] <OerHeks> dhaval2712, do you have driver problems with the normal desktop 15.04 iso ?
[15:28] <dhaval2712> No I haven't tried it yet, however, I have had issues with Debian and Fedora with my Nvidia 750Ti
[15:28] <Rene_> it might simply be a wrong xorg.conf file, but idk how to get in the rigth one if all the apt-get updates etc didnt work
[15:29] <AirtelFanMan> hello ubuntu fans
[15:29] <dhaval2712> I'm asking if it would be better if I download Ubuntu Desktop. Is there a major difference between the Server and Desktop editions?
[15:29] <AirtelFanMan> when is ubuntu 15.04 releasing in GMT time ?
[15:29] <OerHeks> http://releases.ubuntu.com/15.04/
[15:29] <mcphail> dhaval2712: not major, no
[15:29] <Richard|> Hi, I'm currently booting Ubuntu 14.10 with the kernel 3.16.0-33, as the latest kernel causes an overheating problem with my laptop. If I upgrade to 15.04 will this cause any problems? Should I set GRUB back to default first?
[15:29] <dhaval2712> Cool. Thank you.
[15:29] <TandyUK> dhaval2712: the software installed by default is different, thats all
[15:30] <TandyUK> desktop has loads of stuff youd never need on a server
[15:30] <kanupatar> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1860612 Rene_
[15:30] <coolstar-chrome> I'm hosting a wifi network from my laptop with Ubuntu 14.04 but the devices on the network don't appear to be getting internet connection for some reason
[15:30] <coolstar-chrome> the devices are able to access my local apache2 server but are unable to connect to the internet
[15:30] <AirtelFanMan> has ubuntu 15.04 released officially ?
[15:31] <ChunkzZ> anyone else still not see the download?
[15:31] <coolstar-chrome> on my laptop I have Internet access on wlan0 and I'm hosting the network on wlan1
[15:31] <OerHeks> ChunkzZ, read back, i gave the url
[15:31] <gingermouse> ChunkzZ: few more hours, probably.
[15:31] <AirtelFanMan> Ubuntu 15.04 Launched or Not ?
[15:31] <ChunkzZ> OerHeks, I don't see it?
yeh maybe reinstalling lightdm will fix some settings problem you could try it
[15:31] <TandyUK> AirtelFanMan: apparantly so http://releases.ubuntu.com/15.04/
[15:32] <AirtelFanMan> TandyUK: Is that officially released link or beta version ?
[15:32] <demahum> AirtelFanMan: It's official
[15:32] <ChunkzZ> no it's not lol -.-
[15:33] <AirtelFanMan> demahum: Ubuntu.com doesnt give any link , why ?
[15:33] <mantys89> It's official, but not anounced... :)
[15:33] <TandyUK> maybe waitign for it to distribute to mirrors before making the announcement?
[15:33] <AirtelFanMan> When is the Ubuntu 15.04 launch party ?
[15:33] <AirtelFanMan> Any IRC channel for Ubuntu 15.04 launch party ?
[15:33] <demahum> AirtelFanMan: The Ubuntu on the link you have just seen is ubuntu.com.
[15:33] <pero> hola
[15:33] <SchrodingersScat> !party | AirtelFanMan
[15:33] <TandyUK> what launch party lol
[15:33] <ChunkzZ> OerHeks, what's the link? the one on that page is saying it was uploaded yesterday (uk)
[15:33] <gingermouse> AirtelFanMan: it takes a few hours for everything to get fully released. It will be available later today.
[15:34] <demahum> AirtelFanMan: It is releases.ubuntu.com
[15:34] <ChunkzZ> Ubuntu 15.04 (Vivid Vervet) (in development)
[15:34] <demahum> AirtelFanMan: Her you can see that there are release notes: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/VividVervet/ReleaseNotes
[15:34] <ChunkzZ> 22-Apr-2015 12:31
i found something new to try
[15:35] <demahum> AirtelFanMan: And here the news about release, again from ubuntu.com: https://insights.ubuntu.com/2015/04/22/here-comes-kilo-15-05-containers-will-never-be-the-same-again/
[15:35] <OerHeks> ChunkzZ, then don't download it if you feel that is not alright
[15:35] <coolstar-chrome> anyone know which kernel version is in Ubuntu 15.04?
[15:35] <mcphail> coolstar-chrome: 3.19.something
[15:35] <brainwash> coolstar-chrome: 3.19
[15:35] <ChunkzZ> OerHeks, I'm replacing windows so want to make sure. :)
[15:36] <U1510nameseeker> What will WW stand for?
sudo apt-get remove --purge xserver-xorg ; sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg ; sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[15:36] <Ekushey> 15.04 released already?
[15:36] <coolstar-chrome> mcphail, brainwash: yay, now I don't have to upgrade the kernel manually to get my trackpad working :D
[15:36] <emapaere> is there any software i can use to read pdf and epub documents on xterminal
[15:36] <coolstar-chrome> (support for my laptop's trackpad was added in 3.17)
[15:36] <mcphail> ha! :)
[15:37] <votre_nom> hey!
[15:37] <demahum> Ekushey: Yes. It is.
[15:39] <OerHeks> emapaere, not that i know of, or think it would be usefull, reading epub/pdf in terminal ???
[15:39] <kanupatar> Rene_: now installing lightdm
[15:39] <kanupatar> and also installed gdm
[15:39] <ChunkzZ> !outyet
try reinstall of xserver if lightdm reinstall fails
[15:39] <Rene_> <kanupatar> sudo apt-get remove --purge xserver-xorg ; sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg ; sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[15:39] <OerHeks> uh oh, installing lightdm AND gdm ??
[15:40] <demahum> ChunkzZ: How do you explain the existence of release notes, if it is not released?
[15:40] <faust> Is there any way to get <faust> Is there any way to get "https://help.ubuntu.com/lts/*" pages in english, regardless of my browser language?
[15:40] <faust> ops
[15:40] <faust> Is there any way to get "https://help.ubuntu.com/lts/*" pages in english, regardless of my browser language?
[15:40] <AirtelFanMan> what is Snappy Core Image Install ?
[15:40] <U1510nameseeker> !ops topic needs updating
[15:41] <mcphail> AirtelFanMan: if you have to ask, you don't need to know :) Seriously
[15:41] <gp5st> http://dpaste.com/2TAG37A is this a bug in tr or expected behavior?
[15:41] <mcphail> AirtelFanMan: it is a new framework for a minimal ubuntu installation with new package manager
[15:42] <mcphail> AirtelFanMan: suitable for "the internet of things" and similar
[15:42] <Rene_> "the internet of hackable things" ftfy
[15:42] <AirtelFanMan> mcphail: okay
[15:43] <AirtelFanMan> Im a Geek :P
[15:43] <GatoLoko> is there an official code name for 15.10 already?
[15:43] <mcphail> Rene_: hackable in a good way, if you're using ubuntu core :)
[15:43] <Rene_> 15.04 \o/
[15:43] <Rene_> hehe :D
[15:43] <coolstar-chrome> !party
[15:43] <crankharder> does anyone know how I can connect to a headless vbox guest to install ubuntu-server? assuming it has an IP assigned to it...
[15:43] <TripWire> Hi.....does anybody know a way to automatically switch the sound to my HDMI device when I plug in the cable. I'm using Ubuntu 14.04.
[15:43] <AirtelFanMan> mcphail: Im geek, so i need one
[15:43] <TandyUK> crankharder: install the rdp plugin for vbox?
[15:44] <mcphail> AirtelFanMan: then join #snappy and get hacking!
[15:44] <crankharder> TandyUK: is that in the Extension Pack?
[15:44] <AirtelFanMan> mcphail: Are you a hacker ?
[15:44] <U1510nameseeker> Crankharder, I assume there's a way to do an unattended installation with some kind of answer file
[15:45] <ChunkzZ> !outyet
[15:45] <mcphail> AirtelFanMan: not in the hollywood sense
[15:45] <crankharder> U1510nameseeker: let's just assume i dont want to muck with that
[15:45] <mcphail> AirtelFanMan: but this is offtopic here
[15:45] <TandyUK> crankharder: yes
[15:46] <pero> bye
[15:47] <TaZeR> hey what do you guys think if i have ssd hardware encryption should i do software encryption with a password in ubuntu or will user and root password protect me enough?
[15:47] <AirtelFanMan> can we change root password in Ubuntu ?
[15:47] <Rene_> yes
[15:47] <Rene_> but not adviced
[15:47] <TaZeR> you set it during install i think
[15:48] <mcphail> TaZeR: depends on whether you trust the hardware encryption
[15:48] <Pici> !root
[15:48] <deshymers> so looking at https://code.launchpad.net/~sgringwe/+archive/ubuntu/rdio there doesnt seem to be a build for 14.0.4, anyone here build from source?
[15:48] <TaZeR> i think i trust it, its the samsung 850 evo
[15:48] <Rene_> the way root is set up it's best not to change the password yourself then it will be les safe
[15:48] <AirtelFanMan> Rene_: I dont think we have option to set it
[15:48] <TaZeR> fairly new drive
[15:48] <TaZeR> but im a paranoid type i might go for the extra layer of software encryption
[15:48] <Rene_> i think i read somewhere it's posible but then you lose some protections from ubuntu
[15:49] <TaZeR> maybe someone can somehow bruteforce my root password
[15:49] <TaZeR> its short because i have to keep entering it a lot
[15:49] <TaZeR> but encryption password i make impossible
[15:49] <TaZeR> yea ill go for both
[15:49] <AirtelFanMan> Why do other linux version offer changing root password then ?
[15:49] <TandyUK> "sudo su -; passwd;"
[15:49] <Pici> AirtelFanMan: did you read the link ubottu posted?
[15:50] <Rene_> yeh you can change it, but you break some other protections that are there to safe guard your root aco8unt
[15:50] <Rene_> its adviced not to change it
[15:50] <k1l_> AirtelFanMan: the ubuntu is not to use root user account at all. that doesnt interfer with what other OS do.
[15:50] <TandyUK> tbh thats a good reaso nfor me to ditch ubuntu then
[15:50] <TandyUK> I decide what happens, i dont need nannying
[15:51] <TandyUK> if you want to be nannied, use winblows
[15:51] <OerHeks> TandyUK, thanks for the rant.
[15:51] <TandyUK> np :)
[15:51] <TaZeR> windows is a very fine piece of software as well
[15:51] <Rene_> it's a protection sceme, i forgot how it works , you can change the root password but then ubuntu cant use its build in protections anymore
[15:51] <TaZeR> how else would we play all those great games!
[15:51] <k1l_> TandyUK: you can use the OS you want to. no problem. but that is just a false reason then. you can use sudo for all the tasks you want
[15:51] <TandyUK> crossover ;)
[15:51] <TaZeR> but windows 10 does look sucky, im sticking with 8 on my gaming rig
[15:52] <TaZeR> win 8.1 has been my favourite ever
[15:52] <Rene_> just make multi boot i can boot to 3 os'es :D
[15:52] <TaZeR> ill stick with it until support runs out
[15:52] <boshx_> oh dear
[15:52] <TaZeR> i would never boot into the other ones
[15:52] <Rene_> i stick with ubuntu for the steam support
[15:52] <TaZeR> what would the point be, id wanna be on my best os
[15:52] <k1l_> please put all the other talk to #ubuntu-offtopic or ##chat and keep this channel for support. thanks
[15:52] <Rene_> o7 yes sir
[15:53] <TaZeR> im banned from offtopic because i went offtopic-offtopic
[15:53] <TaZeR> anyway time to install, cheers yall!
[15:56] <marianne_> hey guys... remember a few days back when I came on and Firefox was being stupid and showing the browser in a different language? well now, the browser is fine, but StarzPlay says I'm in another country. I looked in the obvious places to check my location and it says I'm here stateside... any ideas on how to fix this?
[15:57] <AirtelFanMan> anyone using Free Internet ?
[15:57] <Rene_> what is StarzPlay a program or a website ?
[15:57] <petrvs> it's a video on demand channel/feed, I believe
[15:57] <marianne_> Rene_: website to stream movies and such
[15:58] <Rene_> ah
[15:58] <petrvs> marianne_: what says you're stateside?
[15:58] <marianne_> petrvs: I looked at the time setting ... and the location says Eastern...
[15:59] <marianne_> petrvs: but the StarzPlay site doesn't think I'm here...
[15:59] <petrvs> in what way does it suggest it thinks you're in another country?
[16:00] <marianne_> petrvs: brought the page up and it has the following message: Sadly, fans of our shows and movies in other countries, other planets and distant galaxies cannot access STARZ Play. You must be in the United States or a US Territory to watch.
[16:00] <k1l_> AirtelFanMan: what is the issue behind that question?
[16:00] <marianne_> petrvs: I accessed it fine 2 days ago
[16:00] <petrvs> marianne_: could just be a bad error msg that applies to more than what it's stated
[16:00] <AirtelFanMan> k1l_: I want to know if free internet is really available
[16:01] <k1l_> marianne_: do you use a proxy with firefox?
[16:01] <marianne_> k1l_: no
[16:01] <petrvs> marianne_: what're you using for starzplay, what plugin/s?
[16:01] <daftykins> marianne_: check your extensions and so on.
[16:01] <Rene_> you would think that geo-ip location is triggered on peoples ip adress
[16:01] <k1l_> AirtelFanMan: the internet is free. you just need an isp to take part. but what is the issue with ubuntu now?
[16:02] <guadalinex> hello
[16:02] <xrosnight> k1l_: i dont agree with you. it's not free in China. :(
[16:02] <Rene_> o/
[16:02] <Rene_> i doubt it's free anywhere
[16:02] <guadalinex> my name is gerard in mexico
[16:03] <Pici> marianne_: Typically these things use the ip that you are connecting to their website with, its likely nothing that you can change via Ubuntu itself.
[16:03] <petrvs> it's as free as you make it
[16:03] <ObrienDave> the internet is free. you have to pay a provider for access
[16:03] <Rene_> my nbame is rene in the netherlands :D
[16:03] <guadalinex> alguien en español
[16:03] <k1l_> !es | guadalinex
[16:03] <marianne_> Pici: makes sense...
[16:04] <Rene_> you could email the website see if there is a problem with your ip that they have made a mistake
[16:05] <marianne_> Rene_: i think it's the site its self... POC provider validations too
[16:05] <EriC^^> check what your ip is maybe, whatismyip.com it says the geo location
[16:05] <amari> http://www.ubuntu.com/ updated
[16:05] <Rene_> yeh thats why you might need to ask that website to look why your ip is blocked if it is in the usa, maybe they are using wrong settngs or you can get your ip unbanned
[16:06] <desperate_joe> hello...i've been here a few times already with the same problem, but up until now no help... so i hope today is different: HP laptop, dual boot (win7 and ubuntu 14) in win7 my homenetwork is ok, in ubuntu the same homenetwork for some reason is too slow to be workable almost every page is stopped loading due to timeout
[16:06] <ioria> wow
[16:06] <Pici> 70
[16:06] <EriC^^> Pici: why do you sometimes msg 70 randomly?
[16:06] <daftykins> desperate_joe: try alternate DNS servers such as Google's DNS service.
[16:06] <petrvs> desperate_joe: laptop model
[16:07] <Pici> EriC^^: because I forget to type the slash in /70 which is an irssi alias to go to window 70 (where I play trivia on IRC)
[16:07] <EriC^^> oh ok :)
[16:09] <daftykins> that too, was trivia
[16:09] <desperate_joe> hp pavilion
[16:09] <petrvs> 70, holy
[16:10] <petrvs> desperate_joe: how about the whole model #
[16:10] <petrvs> Pici: oooh yeah... trivia
[16:10] <reborn> has ubuntu mate release not yet?
[16:10] <desperate_joe> @daftykins? i'm a true noob... what do you mean with alternate dns servers?
[16:11] <petrvs> it's fairly unlikely your windows install is using different dns
[16:11] <k1l_> desperate_joe: you are talking baout wifi?
[16:11] <setre> Why is there no conkeror package in Utopic? :(
[16:11] <EriC^^> !info konqueror
[16:11] <desperate_joe> @kil, yes, sorry, wifi
[16:11] <EriC^^> setre: ^
[16:11] <desperate_joe> @petrvs... looking for the model
[16:11] <k1l_> desperate_joe: what wifi hardware is that?
[16:11] <mojtaba> Hi, I am trying to set a shorcut for Move window to workspace 1 to Shift+Alt+ctrl+1, but it does not work. Do you know what is wrong?
[16:11] <setre> EriC^^: not that. conkeror with "c"
[16:12] <setre> like i spelled it
[16:12] <petrvs> setre: because
[16:12] <setre> it's a keyboard focused web browser
[16:12] <petrvs> desperate_joe: should be on the bottom, or just under the screen's edge on the front
[16:12] <desperate_joe> the model is HP pavilion DV6.... i don't seem to find a sticker with more precise numbers
[16:13] <k1l_> setre: there was in 10.04. maybe thats dropped because there is no dev or no maintainer
[16:13] <desperate_joe> @klL... what do you mean with wifi hardware? how to know?
[16:13] <k1l_> desperate_joe: "lspci" will list the line for the wifi card
[16:13] <setre> i demand a support representative for Mark Shuttleworth foundation teleport themselves (or fedex) here right now and install conkeror on my machine.
[16:13] <mojtaba> Hi, I am trying to set a shorcut for Move window to workspace 1 to Shift+Alt+ctrl+1, but it does not work. Do you know what is wrong? I did not have any problem with setting of switch to workspace 1 to ctrl+alt+1
[16:13] <desperate_joe> DV6 6130sb (model laptop)
[16:14] <ObrienDave> setre, glwt
[16:14] <k1l_> setre: pay me one billion dollars and i will try to make that happen ;p
[16:14] <petrvs> desperate_joe: check out http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1962226 particularly the subsequent page/s
[16:15] <mojtaba> Hi, I am trying to set a shorcut for Move window to workspace 1 to Shift+Alt+ctrl+1, but it does not work. Do you know what is wrong? I tried other combinations too, like ctrl+f1. But it does not work. Any idea?
[16:15] <desperate_joe> 07:00.0 Ethernet controller: Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd. RTL8111/8168/8411 PCI Express Gigabit Ethernet Controller (rev 06)
[16:15] <desperate_joe> 0d:00.0 Network controller: Intel Corporation Centrino Wireless-N 1030 [Rainbow Peak] (rev 34)
[16:15] <desperate_joe> is that the correct lines?
[16:16] <daftykins> mojtaba: you've come in here for years - you know NOT to repeat yourself.
[16:16] <petrvs> desperate_joe: first should be your ethenet, second your wireless
[16:16] <coolstar-chrome> desperate_joe:you have the Intel 1030
[16:16] <crint> tach
[16:16] <k1l_> setre: the conkeror project seemed dead from 2012 to 2014. so that seems like it got dropped because of that and no one started maintaining the package now
[16:16] <mojtaba> daftykins: I added some more info. :-P
[16:16] <jatt> was vivid released today?
[16:17] <Pici> jatt: indeed :)
[16:17] <Riddell> jatt: yep http://www.kubuntu.org/news/kubuntu-15.04
[16:17] <jatt> on my machine sudo do-release-upgrade says:
[16:17] <jatt> No new release found
[16:17] <coolstar-chrome> I have 2 wifi adapters on my school laptop, just to bypass my school's wifi restrictions xD
[16:17] <jatt> I'm using utopic
[16:17] <jatt> why?
[16:17] <setre> k1l_: perhaps you can help getting it maintained?
[16:18] <setre> or know how/where to ask
[16:18] <coolstar-chrome> jatt: I spoof mac address on one to join staff wifi. run hostapd on another to host a wifi network for my other devices
[16:18] <OerHeks> setre, iDue to the new Mozilla release schedule, Ubuntu kicked out Mozilla XULRunner and all its reverse dependencies (including Conkeror) in 11.04 Natty and later releases.
[16:18] <petrvs> coolstar-chrome: heh
[16:18] <philip_> please how can i install files which contains bin COPYRIGHT lib LICENSE man plugin README release THIRDPARTYLICENSEREADME-JAVAFX.txt THIRDPARTYLICENSEREADME.txt Welcome.html
[16:18] <petrvs> desperate_joe: should be iwlwifi driver
[16:18] <k1l_> setre: sorry, i cant help. but you could start with filing a bug on launchpad.net
[16:18] <coolstar-chrome> about 2/3 of the students in my school run Ubuntu on the laptops
[16:18] <Rory> petrvs: did you read the file called README ?
[16:18] <coolstar-chrome> (mainly because Chrome OS sucks so much xD)
[16:18] <OerHeks> http://conkeror.org/InstallationDebian
[16:18] <desperate_joe> @petrvs... had a quick glance at your link, but the title says "no internet"... i have internet (the apps work ok), it is really my browser (i use firefox)
[16:18] <Rory> petrvs: It's literally called "read me"
[16:18] <setre> OerHeks: can you elaborate?
[16:18] <Rory> philip_: sorry my messages were intended for you, not petrvs
[16:18] <k1l_> setre: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuDevelopment/NewPackages
[16:19] <desperate_joe> @petrvs... i have to type your command in my terminal then?
[16:19] <setre> OerHeks: I fail to see the problem, sorry
[16:19] <desperate_joe> iwlwifi?
[16:19] <petrvs> desperate_joe: too bad you didn't have a quick glance at my actual msg
[16:19] <petrvs> desperate_joe: no
[16:19] <OerHeks> setre, xulrunner is removed, so is conkerer. see http://conkeror.org/InstallationDebian
[16:19] <philip_> no
[16:19] <setre> k1l_: thank you
[16:20] <philip_> please how can i install files which contains bin COPYRIGHT lib LICENSE man plugin README release THIRDPARTYLICENSEREADME-JAVAFX.txt THIRDPARTYLICENSEREADME.txt Welcome.html
[16:20] <setre> OerHeks: yes, but I don't understand how Mozilla's release schedule warrants package removal
[16:20] <petrvs> philip_: for what?
[16:20] <Rory> philip_: What are you trying to install?
[16:21] <setre> OerHeks: do you?
[16:21] <Tekkkz> hello
[16:21] <Tekkkz> can someh
[16:21] <philip_> i downloaded the application and trying to install the application
[16:21] <Tekkkz> can someone help me configuring udev rules for an arduino clone
[16:21] <Rory> philip_: What is the application? it may be available in the package manager
[16:21] <setre> OerHeks: thanks for the link though!
[16:21] <Tekkkz> the udev rule which works on arch likux doesnt work on ubuntu, the device is marked as busy then
[16:21] <OerHeks> setre, well, that is the info i have, did you read that conkerer page ?
[16:21] <ivan_on_trac> I use some text GUI applications. What is the name of a font. You can make the best appearance. Ubuntu server.
[16:21] <philip_> jre-8u45-linux-x64.tar.gz
[16:22] <Rory> !java | philip_
[16:22] <setre> OerHeks: Yes I have looked at it
[16:23] <setre> OerHeks: not having packages loses the whole point of having a distro though
[16:23] <Pici> 70
[16:23] <reborn> Same system requirement, yes?
[16:23] <philip_> i have done that but still
[16:24] <desperate_joe> @petrvs let's start over, i'm at a loss... what is it you want me to do? i'm looking at your link, but don't understand which step to take, and the topic seems no internet, not "slow internet" ... i am at wifi now
[16:25] <smallfoot-> Thanks for 15.04, it is awesome! :)
[16:26] <nalmicore> Is there a way to force ubuntu to run a script when shutdown gracefully?
[16:26] <k1l_> desperate_joe: sorry, got distracted. it seems that this card you use is having issues with the n-draft thing and the linux driver
[16:26] <asta22> hello. what's it called that repository that has untested packages?
[16:26] <MonkeyDust> philip_ wgaqt does the readme file tell you to do?
[16:27] <MonkeyDust> what*
[16:27] <philip_> it talks about the license
[16:27] <k1l_> nalmicore: anacron ?
[16:27] <MonkeyDust> philip_ then simply install java from the repos, no need to use the tar you are using
[16:28] <desperate_joe> @klL... i have no idea what is the n-draft ... but the one million dollar question: can you guide me through it? or ... would it be advisable to actually install the 15 and hoping that the problem won't arrise there?
[16:28] <daftykins> boot a live session of 15.04 sure, but it's unlikely to solve your problems
[16:28] <daftykins> no need to go all the way through an install to find out
[16:28] <MonkeyDust> !isitoutyet
[16:29] <k1l_> desperate_joe: its the "fast" wifi connection band.
[16:29] <zaggynl> my mouse stopped scrolling
[16:29] <zaggynl> xev doesn't show any input for scrolling up or down, rest of the keys work
[16:29] <k1l_> desperate_joe: try this one: http://askubuntu.com/a/533271/31260
[16:31] <mac33> is yet available 15.04?
[16:31] <k1l_> mac33: it is
[16:31] <mac33> thank you
[16:31] <desperate_joe> options iwlwifi 11n_disable=1 wd_disable=1 .... so i just type this in my terminal?
[16:32] <k1l_> desperate_joe: no. put that in the file mentioned
[16:32] <k1l_> desperate_joe: "sudo nano /etc/modprobe.d/iwlwifi.conf"
[16:32] <mac33> ubuntu 15.04 wayland or Xserver
[16:33] <k1l_> then drop that line into there. then ctrl+o for saving, ctrl+x for exit
[16:33] <k1l_> mac33: xserver
[16:33] <k1l_> mac33: wayland is not usable with desktops on daily business
[16:33] <mac33> I read something about wayland and I thought it was ready
[16:34] <MonkeyDust> !wayland | mac33 maybe you read this
[16:34] <k1l_> mac33: wayland ist kind of ready. but the desktops that use wayland are not ready.
[16:34] <mac33> ok+
[16:34] <petrvs> it'll be ready when it's ready
[16:35] <desperate_joe> i did the nano ... appeared a text... just at the line at the bottom? and then how to save?
[16:35] <k1l_> desperate_joe: at the bottom
[16:35] <desperate_joe> *just PUT the line at the bottom ...
[16:35] <k1l_> desperate_joe: re read what i wrote. is explained how to save in nano
[16:38] <desperate_joe> how to exit/save?
[16:38] <desperate_joe> i got disconnected... don't know if i missed some messages... i put the lines at the bottom... how to save/exit this screen?
[16:38] <mac33> bye to all.....I gonna try 15.04
then drop that line into there. then ctrl+o for saving, ctrl+x for exit
[16:39] <fxmulder> I have a custom kernel installed, if I apt-get dist-upgrade will that override my custom kernel?
[16:39] <k1l_> fxmulder: remove the linux-generic package
[16:40] <sundev70> Anyone know a firewall/filter for internet traffic that would filter out windows viruses...wanted to pass through linux before going to windows virtual environment
[16:40] <sundev70> ?
[16:40] <desperate_joe> there are some commands at the bottom of the screen yes, ^x to exit, but it doesn't close
[16:40] <MonkeyDust> !av
[16:40] <wafflejock> desperate_joe, ctrl+o to save ctrl+x to exit
[16:41] <desperate_joe> ok, done
[16:42] <wafflejock> sundev70, basically can use clamav to scan for windows viruses, can use fail2ban to block IPs that are attempting/failing auth and the like based on scanning logs for failures
[16:42] <desperate_joe> now basic restart?
[16:42] <k1l_> desperate_joe: yes
[16:42] <admin3> how can i give have access to create new folder on my htdocs?
[16:43] <wafflejock> admin3, the user needs write permission or the group needs write permission and the user needs to be a part of the group, one of the two
[16:43] <desperate_joe> ok.... i'll see what it does... if i don't come back is because it works or because my wifi does not work anymor ;) ... thanks already for your patience!
[16:43] <admin3> i am admin
[16:44] <wafflejock> admin3, if you are running as root then you can write anywhere and shouldn't have a problem using mkdir
[16:45] <admin3> in my htdocs how can i create coz i couldn't
[16:45] <wafflejock> admin3, need to see what command you ran and what error you got
[16:45] <wafflejock> !doesntwork | admin3
[16:46] <phpcoder> hello
[16:46] <MonkeyDust> admin3 what's the outcome of groups
[16:46] <phpcoder> how can i upgrade my ubuntu to 14.10
[16:46] <phpcoder> and then to 15.04 ?
[16:46] <ht3k> phpcoder: You can do sudo do-release-upgrade
[16:47] <MonkeyDust> phpcoder fresh install is faster, easier, cleanier... stick to 14.04 LTS is better
[16:47] <ht3k> phpcoder: Make sure your sources manager has "search for any new version" instead of "long releases"
[16:47] <phpcoder> ht3k, i am using 14.04
[16:47] <admin3> i have not the chance to make a folder in my htdocs (XAMP)
[16:47] <phpcoder> but if i do do-release-upgrade
[16:47] <phpcoder> there is nothing
[16:47] <k1l_> phpcoder: make sure the release-prompt is not set to "lts only"
[16:47] <ht3k> phpcoder: Check the option I just mentioned :)
[16:47] <phpcoder> ht3k, can i pass from 14.04 to 15.04 directly?
[16:47] <k1l_> !xamp | admin3
[16:48] <k1l_> !xampp | admin3
[16:48] <MonkeyDust> phpcoder you can't, have to go via 14.10
[16:48] <freak3> how sudo restart systemd-logind on 14.10?
[16:48] <admin3> ya lampp
[16:48] <freak3> restart: Unknown job: systemd-logind
[16:48] <freak3> any idea?
[16:48] <phpcoder> pardon but
[16:48] <phpcoder> 14.10 is using an older kernel then 14.04
[16:48] <phpcoder> is not a problem ?
[16:49] <ht3k> phpcoder: not if you're going to upgrade to 15.04 anyway
[16:49] <phpcoder> MonkeyDust, yeah i know but i have many programs configuration etc etc...i can not do a fresh install
[16:49] <ht3k> Gotta go restart, my release-upgrade is done!
[16:49] <phpcoder> ht3k, is it a big problem downloading new version in this way?
[16:49] <phpcoder> is a lot of better a fresh install ?
[16:50] <k1l_> phpcoder: you need to upgrade to 14.10 then to 15.04
[16:50] <phpcoder> k1l_, yes sure... i will upgrade to 14.10 and then to 15.04
[16:50] <k1l_> phpcoder: look at the system settings -> software and updates and set the release prompt to every release and not "lts only"
[16:50] <MrNumber3isme> Hello room
[16:50] <phpcoder> but is really bad do it ?
[16:51] <MonkeyDust> phpcoder then it's safer to stick to your release
[16:51] <phpcoder> k1l_, ok
[16:51] <phpcoder> but guys
[16:51] <k1l_> phpcoder: no its not bad to do.
[16:51] <MrNumber3isme> I need help with a permissions issue with my SD card. anybody game?
[16:51] <Caleb--> upgrading ubuntu like a bawss!
[16:51] <k1l_> phpcoder: but you need to upgrade every 6 months then
[16:51] <phpcoder> k1l_, yes not a big problem but
[16:52] <phpcoder> upgrading the system will decrease the performances?
[16:52] <phpcoder> is it better a fresh install ?
[16:52] <phpcoder> or does not change too much ?
[16:52] <pheelter> phpcoder: shouldn't be much of a difference
[16:52] <daftykins> those who have truly worked in IT don't believe in upgrades ;)
[16:53] <wafflejock> personally stick with LTS on my work machine and prefer doing clean installs when they release, backup my whole machine using Clonezilla and backup my /home folder to an external drive
[16:53] <k1l_> phpcoder: upgrading is fine.
[16:53] <phpcoder> k1l_, ok
[16:53] <daftykins> wafflejock: +1 to clonezilla's genius
[16:54] <newuser789> clonezilla or rsync ? for backup
[16:54] <wafflejock> daftykins, yeah I configured a 1TB external HD enclosure to boot with clonezilla it's pretty sweet
[16:54] <wafflejock> newuser789, rsync is better for regular file backups clonezilla is more like disk imaging saves it in tar.gz files that are harder to individually load
[16:55] <admin3> u can't help me for lampp?
[16:55] <newuser789> wafflejock: I mean in respect for backups of full encrypted disks
[16:55] <phpcoder> k1l_, do-release-upgrase is available for 15.04 ?
[16:56] <phpcoder> now i am upgrading to 14.10
[16:56] <pheelter> phpcoder: it is now
[16:56] <k1l_> phpcoder: yes. but you need to go to 14.10 first
[16:56] <daftykins> admin3: your first time administrating a web server?
[16:56] <wafflejock> newuser789, yeah for full disk backups clonezilla is nice, it's basically dd plus tar.gz and runs lshw and a few other things to get a few reports on the state of the machine when it was backed up, rsync has the ability to recover though so better for network based backups
[16:56] <phpcoder> do-release-upgrade will install it sequentially?
[16:56] <phpcoder> i mean 14.10 than 15.04 ?
[16:57] <MrNumber3isme> I need help with a permissions issue with my SD card. anybody game?
[16:57] <k1l_> phpcoder: no. it will upgrade to 14.10 then stops. then you make a reboot. then you do it again to go to 15.04
[16:57] <phpcoder> ok
[16:57] <k1l_> phpcoder: just give it a go. its not rocket science :)
[16:57] <Z3_> Hi. It's possible to install mir display server (a complete version for normal use) in Ubuntu 14.04 ? If not, will it be possible before Ubuntu 16.04?
[16:57] <ki7mt> pheelter, k1l_ FWIW - I would not recommend upgrading more that two stages e.g. 14.04 -> 14.10 -> 15.04 .. You'd be better off, in the long run, installing 15.04 directly.
[16:57] <newuser789> wafflejock: what I want is a backup of 1TB of internal HD backedup to an 1TB exteral enclosure, how to do it ? any pages or links ?
[16:57] <daftykins> MrNumber3isme: details?
[16:57] <phpcoder> k1l_, eheh ok
[16:58] <MrNumber3isme> When I plug my SD card in, it is automatically mounted as read only. happens with every SD card. the physical lock on the card is unlocked. using chmod does nothing for me. the only thing I've found with success is using mount --options remount,rwx /media/thomas/sdb1
[16:58] <wafflejock> newuser789, clonezilla is nice for the fact that it gives you a GUI and you can just boot it up on any machine and back it up/restore it even if it's not a linux machine
[16:58] <ki7mt> phpcoder, sri, that was for you not phee.. tab got me on that one.
[16:59] <k1l_> ki7mt: yes. if its about 3 updates you might be faster with a clean install. but on this case i think upgradeding twice is ok.
[16:59] <freak3> on 14.10, i did "sudo restart systemd-logind" but get error: "restart: Unknown job: systemd-logind" . How you fix this error?
[16:59] <ki7mt> phpcoder, k1l_, Only reason I say install 15.04 first, as that ill allow reaching 16.04 when it arrives.
[17:00] <rektide_> i've been using 3.19.0-10 and 3.19.0-14, and btrfs has corrupted my system such that it is unable to boot three times in three weeks
[17:00] <ki7mt> ..will allow ..
[17:00] <rektide_> has anything happened between the RC and release w/r/t btrfs?
[17:00] <JediMaster> hi guys, how can I run a command as www-data on 14.04 where the default shell is /usr/sbin/no-login? for example: su www-data /usr/bin/whoami returns: "This account is currently not available."
[17:00] <newuser789> wafflejock: but then how to restore clonezilla image ? you said its hard for individual images, further more the requirment is for fully encrypted disk, its different (backiup and recovery) than normal systems
[17:00] <wafflejock> newuser789, not really just the clonezilla site itself, which isn't anything to write home about http://clonezilla.org/ you just download the ISO though and burn it to a disk or google on how to setup a USB stick with clonezilla, personally I used Gparted to partition my external drive so I could have clonezilla on one partition it boots from and use the other partition for storing data from the internal drive, so I just have to
[17:00] <wafflejock> boot off the external USB device
[17:01] <k1l_> ki7mt: nope. its not lts
[17:01] <wafflejock> newuser789, it gives you ncdu style menus for selecting if you want full disk or partition based backup or restore and then you select the target and destination and it pretty much handles the rest
[17:02] <wafflejock> newuser789, regarding the data being encrypted I don't believe it should make a difference what's in the blocks it's copying
[17:02] <newuser789> wafflejock: sounds easy but is it reliable ?
[17:02] <wafflejock> newuser789, yeah it's been around for a while and I've been using it for at least a few years without ever having a problem
[17:03] <OerHeks> rektide, btrfs is unstable
[17:03] <newuser789> OerHeks: me ?
[17:03] <wafflejock> newuser789, if something fails it lets you know and can do verification of everything if you so choose
[17:03] <jgoguen> I'm using network-manager-openconnect and network-manager-openconnect-gnome on Ubuntu 14.10. When connecting it pulls down a XML file that has, among other things, a list of what endpoints are available. Where does that file get stored?
[17:03] <ki7mt> k1l_, sorry I don't uderstand your meaning, what's not LTS ?
[17:04] <Arun_> guys, I needed to reinstall grub in my HD so that I can have dual boot my windos and linux, is there any small linux iso that I can use to update my grub fast ?
[17:04] <k1l_> ki7mt: 15.04 is not lts, so you need to upgrade to 15.10 and then to 16.04 when they are released
[17:04] <newuser789> wafflejock: ok, thnx. On second thoughts, what about about doing zsync on backups so that everything doesnt gets backed up everytime, just the changed/modified blocks
[17:04] <pheelter> Arun_: Just run boot-repair. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Boot-Repair
[17:05] <pheelter> Arun_: I mean, run boot repair on a Live CD after you installed/upgraded.
[17:05] <ki7mt> k1l_, Yes, of course, it would be 15.04 -> 15.10 -> 16.04 .. and all being on SysD.
[17:05] <MrNumber3isme> daftykins, any thoughts?
[17:05] <wafflejock> newuser789, haven't used that, for my regular backups I've just been using duplicity with the built in backup tool in Ubuntu Gnome, had used rsync before but never tried zsync
[17:05] <Arun_> pheelter, is it available for windows too? caiuse I have no linux iso available now.
[17:05] <Arun_> in my hdd, it was in ext4 partition
[17:05] <daftykins> MrNumber3isme: nope, remount seems like no hassle to me but not something i understand why is occuring.
[17:06] <pheelter> Arun_: Unfortunately, no. A CD/USB with a Live CD is required to automatically fix your dual boot for you after you installed the system.
[17:06] <wafflejock> newuser789, the duplicity program I believe is just doing incremental backups as well, but I don't really rely on it just have it there just in case, most of my actual important stuff is saved in git repositories
[17:06] <MrNumber3isme> arrrrghhh. Thanks anyway
[17:06] <ig0r_> the Ubuntu installer says "no root file system is defined". How do I define a root file system ??
[17:06] <Arun_> pheelter, ok , then I think I shall mount the ext4 partition to retrieve my iso
[17:06] <newuser789> wafflejock: so clonezilla will backup everything each time or it'd check for modified/newer blocks ?
[17:06] <freak3> how can i do this (https://help.ubuntu.com/15.04/ubuntu-help/power-closelid.html ) by command line
[17:06] <freak3> ?
[17:06] <wafflejock> newuser789, also setup an owncloud instance on digital ocean as a shared backup basically in place of DropBox cause we outgrew it and I'd rather run my own
[17:06] <k1l_> ig0r_: what install is it?
[17:07] <k1l_> ig0r_: do you use manual partitioning?
[17:07] <freak3> k1l_: hi
[17:07] <freak3> k1l_: how can i do this (https://help.ubuntu.com/15.04/ubuntu-help/power-closelid.html ) by command line
[17:07] <wafflejock> newuser789, clonezilla is a straight full disk or full partition backup and the system can't be running, it's good for between big distro upgrades or right after getting a system stable
[17:07] <ig0r_> k1l_: yes I use manual partitioning
[17:07] <newuser789> wafflejock: throw some more light on it - owncloud, digital ocean
[17:08] <k1l_> ig0r_: then you forgot to mark one patition as be used for /
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[17:08] <SchrodingersScat> newuser789: I just started using duplicity for my /owncloud/
[17:08] <k1l_> altin: please no adverts in here.
[17:08] <ig0r_> k1l_: how do I do that in the installer?
[17:08] <pheelter> Arun_: It's worth the hassle. Better than trying to fix it yourself.
[17:08] <k1l_> ig0r_: its in the manual partioning process. just see the options you can sue there
[17:09] <newuser789> !owncloud
[17:09] <k1l_> *can use
[17:09] <wafflejock> newuser789, eh digital ocean is just a cloud hosting provider like amazon web services or google cloud or azure or whatever where you have some virtual server that you control, on DO they have 1 click installs and pretty cheap monthly servers like $5 or $10 OwnCloud is basically just an equivalent to DropBox except you run the server so your space is limited by how much server space you have
[17:09] <altin> k1l_: it's not an advert, but rather something good for the community :0
[17:09] <altin> :) *
[17:09] <Arun_> pheelter, yeah, I am gonna fix it now :D
[17:09] <pheelter> Arun_: Cool, enjoy.
[17:09] <newuser789> hmm
[17:09] <wafflejock> newuser789, plus side is owncloud you can control the user accounts a little better from what I've seen and you don't have to trust DropBox with their 1 key thing
[17:09] <SchrodingersScat> newuser789: oops, thought you were asking how to backup your owncloud, reading helped me here. Note that owncloud is NOT a backup, just a sync.
[17:10] <newuser789> backing up to a cloud ? private, encrypted and secure ?
[17:10] <rektide_> OerHeks: no, Ubuntu is releasing a kernel with a known bad, non patched kernel
[17:10] <wafflejock> newuser789, basically I got to the point on DropBox that I had to pay them so figured I'd rather pay for a server and run it myself, and with a 1 click install there was no barrier to entry
[17:11] <rektide_> https://btrfs.wiki.kernel.org/index.php/Gotchas
[17:11] <wafflejock> newuser789, can be you need to get an SSL certificate if you don't have one though I already had one so just added the subdomain
[17:11] <rektide_> OerHeks: if this were a 3.19.5 release happening today, systems would not spontaneously self immolate themselves regularly
[17:11] <k1l_> rektide_: did you file a bug? what did the kernel team say about it?
[17:11] <rektide_> OerHeks: but thanks for chiming in
[17:12] <wafflejock> newuser789, like SchrodingersScat said though more of a sync solution than a true backup service
[17:12] <rektide_> i'm banned from ubuntu forums because i complained that the SSO system was painfully bad for me to use
[17:12] <wafflejock> newuser789, think Tarsnap is a pretty cheap offsite backup solution but haven't used it myself
[17:12] <rektide_> so i didn't get a chance to discuss this issue
[17:12] <jmaradin> really tough to decide between mate and gnome at this point, both are nice.
[17:13] <rektide_> i suppose i could just straight file a bug but i was rather hoping to interact with people first to get my ducks in a row
[17:13] <k1l_> rektide_: if this is an issue then yu should file a bug on launchpad.net
[17:13] <cperrin88> I tried to use ubunut as a central rsyslog server but when I send syslog data of multiple servers ( like 10 or more) rsyslog repeates the messages while writing them to the disk.
[17:13] <cperrin88> Can anyone help with that?
[17:13] <SchrodingersScat> wafflejock: i like the idea of tarsnap, but I think it was going to be ~$50/month for me, just to store it :/
[17:13] <wafflejock> SchrodingersScat, hmm rough how much data is that?
[17:14] <SchrodingersScat> wafflejock: thought that was for ~200GB
[17:14] <wafflejock> actually Amazon glacier is super cheap but also haven't tried using it for anything yet
[17:14] <Ryans1230> I am attempting to drag the iso file into Disk Utility on Yosemite and it won't drop and can't write to disk except through Finder. Any advice?
[17:15] <OerHeks> rektide_, found the bugreport https://lists.launchpad.net/kernel-packages/msg113945.html
[17:15] <OerHeks> https://btrfs.wiki.kernel.org/index.php/Main_Page#News
[17:15] <ParadoxHeart> Does any one know of a way to change screen resolutions in X from a terminal other than xrandr? I have a 4k display port 1.2 mst monitor and in order to get it to show up as one display, I needed to configure it with Xinerama and disable xrandr.
[17:16] <rektide_> "Bug Watcher Updater" says status went from Unknown -> Fix Released 3 hours ago for this btrfs bug, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/1445252 . is there any way to see what was fixed?
[17:17] <rektide_> i'd like to ahve a kernel that doesn't self immolate the system
[17:17] <rektide_> i'm not sure where i go to get the fix though
[17:17] <wafflejock> SchrodingersScat, yeah if it can't get anything out of compression or deduplication that does seem about right
[17:18] <OerHeks> rektide_, fixed for debian, vivid is triaged, so they are working on it
[17:18] <cuddylier> Would anyone say this is slow for a 7200RPM harddrive in a dedicated server? http://pastie.org/pastes/10110026/text?key=n9abpof6wql0pcs7hvg5dg
[17:23] <wafflejock> SchrodingersScat, http://aws.amazon.com/s3/pricing/ <-- looks like tarsnap is basically upselling for ~10x the underlying storage cost, wonder if the compression and deduplication saves you more than that
[17:25] <oddman2236> Hello room
[17:25] <asta22> hello. how to install the newer libcurl in ubuntu?
[17:25] <JoeMorelloJM> howdy!
[17:30] <asta22> hello everyone. can someone please tell me, how do I install the newer libcurl in ubuntu?
[17:30] <asta22> or what's the name of those repositories that have the rolling release pakcages?
[17:31] <EvilCreep> What's the correct way to give www-data read/write access to a directory and a few files in a users home directory. I don't want web access to these files/folder just access to read and write to them via php scripts.
[17:32] <overclocki7> hi, i was wondering how one could overclock an i7 headless machine via software
[17:32] <ivan_on_trac> Does anyone know of a font text for tty console?! Which is looking good frames.
[17:32] <overclocki7> I'm having trouble finding any setfsb tools for ubuntu
[17:33] <Guest1148> hello i have prb when i want to open rar file with password i try with rarcrack but they give me the same password and it dosen't work i need help in this case
[17:33] <BluesKaj> overclocki7, why would you want to? this isn't 1998
[17:33] <overclocki7> @BluesKaj because I can't overclock via bios
[17:33] <marco__> ciao a tutti
[17:34] <IronicBadger> hello, would anybody here be able to assist me in compiling mhddfs please?
[17:34] <IronicBadger> http://svn.uvw.ru/mhddfs/trunk/README
[17:34] <BluesKaj> overclocki7, as if that's gonna make any difference in performance
[17:35] <overclocki7> @BluesKaj overclocking does make a difference in performance, which is why people do it
[17:36] <BluesKaj> not much anymore
[17:36] <Rory> Guest1148: unrar x -pPassword filename.rar
[17:36] <Rory> Guest1148: replace Password with the actual password
[17:37] <wafflejock> overclocki7, only if you're doing something that's actually eating the entire CPU it's really rarely necessary or a good idea (unless you're overclocking your raspberry pi or something, even then without any cooling failures happen)
[17:37] <ig0r_> I just downloaded and installed the latest Ubuntu release and I'm sorry but Mint is superior to Ubuntu (no trolling intended)
[17:37] <IronicBadger> ig0r_: i'll take the bait.... why?
[17:38] <ig0r_> IronicBadger: no bait just wanted to express my opinion.
[17:38] <overclocki7> @wafflejock I do use my entire cpu on a lot of heavy compute tasks (current cpu load is 8.42/8) which is why I am asking
[17:38] <wafflejock> ig0r_, better to discuss in #ubuntu-offtopic if it isn't a support issue
[17:38] <IronicBadger> hello, would anybody here be able to assist me in compiling mhddfs please?
[17:39] <MonkeyDust> IronicBadger ask your question and wait
[17:39] <wafflejock> ig0r_, sure your feedback if given in a reasonable way would be appreciated but try to keep this channel on support and less on opinions
[17:39] <zzxc> Hey does anyone know a good alerting system for new CVE or just general vulnerabilities?
[17:40] <ig0r_> I hear you wafflejock :)
[17:40] <overclocki7> @wafflejock also my cpu is watercooled so cooling failure is unlikely to happen- i just need to know how to bump up the fsb slightly
[17:41] <overclocki7> if it is even possible in linux
[17:41] <BluesKaj> overclocki7, perhaps the ppl at ##linux can help you
[17:42] <wafflejock> overclocki7, yeah have only done it in my bios I know there are some CPU governer things you can install but never really messed with it have just used the GUI tools for enabling power save mode and the like (can step down but not overclock)
[17:42] <cperrin88> If I send logs from more then about 10 servers to rsyslog it goes berzerk and repeats the last messages infinitily and writes them to the disk
[17:42] <BlueProtoman> How can I look at the information for my webcam?
[17:42] <BlueProtoman> Manufacturer, resolution, etc.
[17:42] <wafflejock> overclocki7, the raspi debian image has some tools built in to overclock the ARM processor in there too but not sure if it's applicable or what exact program it's using
[17:43] <wafflejock> BlueProtoman, lspci for built in lsusb for usb devices then look up the device id or manufacturer/model
[17:43] <overclocki7> @wafflejock not sure if that applies to me- i'm using an x86 processor and not an Rpi SoC
[17:43] <overclocki7> @BluesKaj thanks, i'll check it out
[17:43] <BlueProtoman> wafflejock...is there a GUI tool?
[17:44] <BlueProtoman> I just want to figure out if my camera is 8 megapixels or not
[17:45] <wafflejock> BlueProtoman, built in there's Cheese usually I install guvcview for more detailed control of the camera doesn't give much info about the hardware though
[17:46] <wafflejock> actually just started it from the command line looks like it does show the supported resolutions and such there
[17:47] <phpcoder> guys
[17:47] <phpcoder> i downloaded
[17:47] <phpcoder> ubuntu 15.04 for a laptop
[17:47] <daftykins> phpcoder: try and put it on one sentence please.
[17:47] <phpcoder> then i have installed fusoiso, how can i start it '
[17:47] <phpcoder> ?
[17:48] <phpcoder> *fuseiso
[17:48] <phpcoder> i need to start it like a "cdrom"
[17:48] <phpcoder> i just mounted it...then ?
[17:48] <daftykins> still spamming.
[17:48] <phpcoder> daftykins, pardon
[17:48] <jmacdonald> I apt-get updated nginx a few days ago and it appears to have overwritten the index.html file i had on a server... seems a bit odd that it didn't make a copy of my original one. thoughts?
[17:49] <daftykins> restore from backup
[17:49] <Guest1148> rory : thanks but i don't have passward i have rar file when i want toopen it it ask me for passward i need help
[17:49] <dbtid> so, I can't get the right time to show up on my dual-boot (win7, ubuntu 14.04) system.
[17:50] <jmacdonald> this isn't an important server, so recreating said index file isn't a night more. i'm more curious about why it may have happened.
[17:50] <wafflejock> jmacdonald, typically upgrades just update the binaries but don't install new configuration even then they rarely would modify your www folder but as daftykins said nothing to do but restore
[17:50] <dbtid> it thinks the clock is UTC, because it's showing NYC time as 9:54.
[17:50] <jmacdonald> ahem.. *nighmare*
[17:50] <dbtid> nothing on the web seems to fix this issue.
[17:50] <dbtid> any suggestions?
[17:51] <wafflejock> jmacdonald, if you are doing development just use a git repo for storing your code and make sure you regularly backup your server but in most cases a server upgrade shouldn't replace your /var/www files that said the last major upgrade for apache they moved the default from /var/www to /var/www/html
[17:52] <ki7mt> dbtid, What have you tried in order to resolve the tz issue?
[17:52] <jmacdonald> this is nginx. so /usr/share/nginx
[17:52] <jmacdonald> honestly this is just a home server that hosted a landing page for a bunch of other services.
[17:53] <jmacdonald> git is a good idea, cause i don't really feel like setting up a backup for it.
[17:53] <wafflejock> jmacdonald, yeah either way typically a reinstall or an upgrade shouldn't be moving around your config files unless they had to change the format and should just be updating binaries
[17:53] <dbtid> i updated the tzdata files, and checked that /etc/localtime said "UTC=no"
[17:53] <dbtid> that's about it.
[17:53] <jmacdonald> yeah, it wasn't even config files that changed. it was an index.html file sitting somewhere.
[17:53] <dbtid> there's no adjustment in Unity's time/date settings.
[17:54] <wafflejock> jmacdonald, yup that's pretty shady, I typically still use Apache for most things, have played a bit with Ngnix but the small gains for me aren't worth changing over the configuration and replacing all the things done in Apache for redirects and compression and such
[17:55] <jmacdonald> Yeah, i sort of hucked it on the machine just as a taste test.
[17:55] <jmacdonald> and i think i was drunk at th etime.
[17:55] <ki7mt> dbtid, Go into unity search, typ time, select time && date, then on the GUI, click on the zone. or in the command line: sudo dpkg-reconfigure tzdata .. select, save, reboot.
[17:56] <dbtid> ok, i've done all that but the reboot.
[17:56] <dbtid> i forgot i'd done that.
[17:56] <phpcoder> how can u start an .iso mounted via fuseiso ?
[17:56] <dbtid> then i just have to reboot
[17:56] <dbtid> ki7mt: i'll let you know
[17:56] <dbtid> i have a long build running
[17:56] <dbtid> thanks;
[17:56] <jmacdonald> In other news... i just installed a linux desktop for the first time in 10 years on a laptop my boss recycled to me for tinkering with.
[17:56] <jmacdonald> came a LONG way :)
[17:57] <jmacdonald> wifi worked, all the werid touch volume buttons and youtube worked. i was smitten
[17:57] <wafflejock> jmacdonald, heh yeah it's been a good 10 years
[17:58] <jmacdonald> what apt incantation will tell me all files modified by a deb?
[17:58] <wafflejock> jmacdonald, people still seem to have quite a few video problems but wifi seems to be mostly a solved problem and all the desktop environments (Unity, Gnome, KDE, XFCE, etc.) are in pretty good shape
[17:59] <wafflejock> jmacdonald, dpkg -L packagename
[17:59] <jmacdonald> tankie.
[18:01] <phpcoder> someone ?
[18:02] <ki7mt> jmacdonald, how do you mean "modified" dpkg -L will tell you the status of the package but not necessarily "modified files?"
[18:02] <jmacdonald> well, i'd like to find out which package insatlled /usr/share/nginx/html/index.html
[18:02] <nullbyte_> how can i upgrade from apt-get to 15.04
[18:02] <EvilCreep> what is the correct way to give www-data read/write access to /home/Minecraft/server/playerdata so I can make changes to player's data with php/webpage? The Minecraft server runs under it's own limited account.
[18:03] <petrvs> nullbyte_: http://www.ubuntu.com/download/desktop/upgrade
[18:03] <daftykins> EvilCreep: create a group, add both users to a group.
[18:03] <daftykins> *that group.
[18:04] <EvilCreep> I don't want www-data to have access to all of the Minecraft server account.. just that one folder.
[18:04] <nullbyte_> petris: i mean from console not with a GUI app
[18:04] <daftykins> EvilCreep: yes thus you change the ownership on that single folder.
[18:05] <jmacdonald> okay it was nginx-common.
[18:05] <petrvs> nullbyte_: it says how from console as well
[18:07] <ki7mt> jmacdonald, That's not so easy actually, you can look at the packages here: http://packages.ubuntu.com/vivid/nginx by clicking on the list-of-files .. but it is most likly the core or full and either the default index page or documentation.
[18:08] <jmacdonald> yeah it was common
[18:08] <ki7mt> jmacdonald, and yes, it was / is nginx-common : http://packages.ubuntu.com/trusty-updates/all/nginx-common/filelist
[18:12] <ki7mt> jmacdonald, Im sure there's a devscript ( from the packaging tools ) that will pull apart the file-lists, I just dont knwo what it is off the top of my head, but would be good to know for CLI use.
[18:15] <ki7mt> jmacdonald, Ok, this may do it: sudo apt-get install apt-file ; apt-file list nginx-common ... that should work.
[18:16] <jmacdonald> neato!
[18:16] <brunch875> 15.04 broke connecting to irc via account-plugin-irc :(
[18:16] <EvilCreep> daftykins: Could you give an example? I'm a little lost on the whole groups thing. Won't putting two accounts in the same group give them access to each other files?
[18:16] <brunch875> can't select the server
[18:16] <ki7mt> jmacdonald, But you need to know the package .. lol .. so, it's a pandora's box I guess.
[18:17] <curiousx> !party
[18:17] <ki7mt> jmacdonald, dpkg --listfiles nginx-common .. but again .. need the package name ... a bugger this one is.
[18:18] <daftykins> EvilCreep: no, because the files have to be set accordingly.
[18:19] <jnhghy> I'm running ubuntu 14.04 and I have apache and other services installed for while now but didn't used them, now I want to run a php file but it gets displayed in the browser rather then run (I actually see php code) what can cause this? apache is running...
[18:19] <EriC^^> jnhghy: did you install php?
[18:20] <brunch875> ¿Does anyone know how to manually configure telepathy for IRC?
[18:20] <jnhghy> EriC^^: good question, I did it once but I might have unsintalled it at some point ??? how can I find that out? apt-get?
[18:20] <EriC^^> jnhghy: apt-cache policy php
[18:21] <EriC^^> jnhghy: apt-cache policy php-common
[18:22] <jnhghy> EriC: php and php-common was not found by policy but I also tried to install them and I get same not found...
[18:22] <ki7mt> jnhghy, You may want to install the LAMP stack .. it's pretty robust using tasksel, but does install MySQL also.
[18:23] <EriC^^> !lamp | jnhghy
[18:23] <EriC^^> jnhghy: sorry it's php5-common
[18:23] <jnhghy> EriC^^, ki7mt: thanks for helping
[18:26] <ghostly_monk> hi
[18:27] <petrvs> hi ghostly
[18:27] <wafflejock> jnhghy, did a walk through vid on setting up lamp and some extra tooling for various web dev stuff, jump points in the description since you don't need the vbox setup https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zQNbsCTFrAA tasksel is nice too though
[18:28] <Blkzer0> herro
[18:29] <Blkzer0> anyone does server work?
[18:30] <petrvs> Blkzer0: #polls
[18:30] <Blkzer0> thanks
[18:32] <Blkzer0> theres no one there
[18:33] <daftykins> Blkzer0: yes plenty of people do server work, can you turn that into an Ubuntu question now? :)
[18:33] <Blkzer0> I need a recommendation for a crm server
[18:33] <petrvs> Blkzer0: you're there
[18:34] <daftykins> Blkzer0: yeah that is not an ubuntu support question
[18:34] <Blkzer0> im the only one there
[18:34] <Blkzer0> :(
[18:34] <Blkzer0> whats a good channel to ask on?
[18:35] <ki7mt> Blkzer0, That's a huge topic .. the server itself, Ubuntu Server is fine, what you choose as the CRM application is up to you, there are many choices.
[18:35] <petrvs> http://alternativeto.net/software/dolibarr/?license=opensource&platform=linux
[18:35] <Blkzer0> ok than what kind of linux server is best to run it on
[18:36] <OerHeks> Blkzer0, how about Ubuntu-server?
[18:36] <jmacdonald> Blkzer0 ask on reddit.
[18:36] <Blkzer0> i asked on reddit
[18:36] <Blkzer0> i have a time limit
[18:37] <petrvs> as ki7mt said, it hardly matters
[18:37] <petrvs> pick a distro you're familiar with
[18:37] <Blkzer0> this kind of stuff is not even my field of work
[18:37] <petrvs> if you're not familiar with one, pick one after researching a bit
[18:37] <ki7mt> Blkzer0, not being confrontational, but "best" is really a matter of need. A 1 man-band may not need much, 60K employees, may need allot of infrastructure. But this is all OT here.
[18:38] <ioria> /extras.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/vivid/main/source ended
[18:38] <Blkzer0> i was asked by my friend who works for some insurance company
[18:38] <McLeod> hello people
[18:38] <ioria> or what ?
[18:38] <petrvs> Blkzer0: well
[18:38] <McLeod> In Xubuntu to install AMD Catalyst drivers i use the option "Generate Distribution Specific Driver Package" or "Install Driver 14.501.1003 on X.Org 6.9 or later"?
[18:38] <petrvs> Blkzer0: if they want a good solution, they should probably _pay_ someone who knows what they're doing to set it up
[18:39] <petrvs> not for nothin'
[18:39] <jmacdonald> Blkzer0 you should tell your friend you don't know and that you have no experince in that field. just be honest
[18:39] <Guest38623> Hey peeps, if you want to convert a windows person what distro do you reccomend and why?
[18:39] <McLeod> i have a lot of problems intalling privative drivers
[18:39] <jmacdonald> even if you gave him one of our answers you'd be doing him a disservice.
[18:39] <petrvs> Guest38623: depends on the windows version they're used to
[18:39] <Blkzer0> i know but money is tough to get these days
[18:39] <OerHeks> Guest38623, obvious, ubuntu
[18:39] <daftykins> !ati | McLeod follow the guides here
[18:39] <Blkzer0> im not doing this alone
[18:39] <petrvs> Blkzer0: educate yourself, then
[18:39] <Blkzer0> lol thats a good one
[18:39] <petrvs> heh
[18:39] <petrvs> oh dear
[18:39] <Guest38623> Because Ubuntu (with unity) can be kind of slow, even on good hardware.
[18:40] <petrvs> I can see why money is tough to get then :/
[18:40] <petrvs> Guest38623: depends on the windows version they're used to
[18:40] <OerHeks> Blkzer0, there are more lightweight desktops, try Xubuntu
[18:40] <Guest38623> What do you think of Mate?
[18:40] <MonkeyDust> Guest38623 it's realy nice to work with
[18:40] <petrvs> Guest38623: it's GNOME 2
[18:40] <OerHeks> err Blkzer0 sorry, not for you
[18:40] <petrvs> Guest38623: it's more like Mac OS, but you can configure it to appear much like Windows 2000-ish
[18:41] <petrvs> or "Windows Classic"
[18:41] <Guest38623> Its pretty similar in terms of UX to Windows
[18:41] <KeithWeisshar> Why am I not able to see any paid apps in the Ubuntu Software Center in 15.04
[18:41] <petrvs> you can also configure it to appear like 7 or 8
[18:41] <petrvs> probably with more effort (or more premade theme packs)
[18:41] <KeithWeisshar> when i switch to the for purchase page it's blank
[18:41] <ki7mt> Blkzer0, Your best approach, given the potential scale, would be to work with a CRM consultant, not Ubuntu support :-)
[18:41] <petrvs> Guest38623: it is, yes
[18:41] <MonkeyDust> and look like openSuse
[18:41] <Guest38623> I am actually installing it right now! Using the hexchat built in.
[18:41] <Blkzer0> i honestly am studying netsec, i dont know much about building servers or databases
[18:41] <Blkzer0> only breacking into them
[18:41] <petrvs> Guest38623: neat-o
[18:41] <Blkzer0> breaking*
[18:41] <KeithWeisshar> why are the for purchase apps not showing up
[18:41] <awal> Guys, there seems to be an issue with the trusty repositories.
[18:42] <dbtid> ki7mt: it's fixed now
[18:42] <dbtid> thank you
[18:42] <Guest38623> petrvs: Indeed
[18:42] <awal> http://in.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/m/mysql-5.5/libmysqlclient18_5.5.41-0ubuntu0.14.04.1_i386.deb // is not accessible, though listed as a dependency for libmysqlclient
[18:42] <Blkzer0> i just thought that you guys might know something about this kind of deadl
[18:42] <Guest38623> What do you think of Arch.
[18:42] <ki7mt> dbtid, cool glad it's working.
[18:42] <Guest38623> xD
[18:42] <petrvs> Guest38623: it's another distro
[18:42] <KeithWeisshar> when i click on all software and then click for purchase it's blank
[18:43] <KeithWeisshar> why is the ubuntu software center not displaying paid apps
[18:43] <KeithWeisshar> or apps from partners
[18:43] <ki7mt> Blkzer0, I do, I've implemented several large scale CRM systems, my recommendation to you is, find a good CRM consultant :-)
[18:43] <Guest38623> petrvs: What if every distro is just based on windows running in a really good wine wrapper.
[18:43] <KeithWeisshar> why is it only showing software provided by ubuntu
[18:43] <petrvs> Guest38623: that'd be a fancy matrix indeed
[18:43] <daftykins> KeithWeisshar: you're going to want to stop repeating now.
[18:43] <petrvs> KeithWeisshar: what app are you looking for?
[18:44] <awal> umm, any ideas about my issue? I know I have just hopped in but the channel seems to be moving fast :P
[18:44] <Guest38623> Whats your problem Awal? Hang on.
[18:45] <KeithWeisshar> are paid apps only available on ubuntu devices
[18:45] <genii> awal: Did you do first: sudo apt-get update? The 5.5.41 version you are looking for which is not there has been superceded by version 5.5.43.
[18:45] <awal> Guest38623 trying to install libmysqlclient18:i386 on 14.04, and trusty repos return 404 :/
[18:45] <awal> ah, lemme tryr
[18:45] <ki7mt> KeithWeisshar, mostly, yes, unless you buy a product from the vendor directly.
[18:46] <Guest38623> Okay, well try update your repo's on your system. sudo apt-get update.
[18:46] <Guest38623> Perhaps if that fails you could download the tarball and compile from source ?
[18:47] <kostkon> KeithWeisshar, what version of ubuntu?
[18:47] <KeithWeisshar> 15.04
[18:47] <KeithWeisshar> 64-bit for pc
[18:47] <ki7mt> ^^ not wise to compile from source, unless you know what your doing.
[18:47] <ioria> awal http://packages.ubuntu.com/trusty/libmysqlclient-dev
[18:48] <awal> ioria: I installed it, but skype is too adamant and wants the .41 version
[18:48] <ioria> oh
[18:48] <DJones> KeithWeisshar: Have you enabled the partner repositories in Software & updates on the other software tab?
[18:48] <kostkon> KeithWeisshar, ok, probably because it's new. Click on Edit -> Software Sources and enable all the repos, except Proposed. Do the same in the 3d part software tab as well. Then hit reload, close the software centre and then maybe check for updates, just in case, then reopen the osftware centre and search again
[18:49] <awal> seems like doing `apt-get update` did the job!
[18:49] <ioria> awal change the name and make it think that is .41 .. :P
[18:49] <Guest38623> Nice! It was that simple :P
[18:49] <awal> thanks a lot Guest38623!
[18:49] <Guest38623> Sometimes its the smallest things we overlook :) No problem.
[18:49] <awal> ioria: haha I actually was about to proxy those files :P
[18:49] <ioria> awal ^_^
[18:50] <Guest38623> I'm really starting to like Mate now.... Maybe too much. My only love has sprung from my only hate. :O
[18:50] <spoown> Hello everyone, is there someone from scotland ?
[18:51] <ki7mt> kostkon, KeithWeisshar sorry, forgot about using the SW center .. my bad.
[18:51] <Guest38623> spoown: I'm in the South of England, if that makes a difference....
[18:51] <Guest38623> spoown: whats your problem/question.
[18:54] <petrvs> spoown: yes I think some ones are from Scotland
[18:54] <ioria> spoown i love haggis, if it counts
[18:55] <petrvs> mmm haggis
[18:55] * petrvs ponders vegetarian haggis
[18:56] <OerHeks> Strange animal, only living in Scotland, that Haggis
[18:56] <ioria> -*_*-
[18:58] * EriC^^ googles haggis
[18:58] <daftykins> :D
[18:58] <ioria> we'll see this 3.19.0-15-generic how it moves
[18:58] <EriC^^> it looks photoshopped http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/4/44/Wild_Haggis.jpg
[18:59] <EriC^^> best how i can describe it
[18:59] <EriC^^> is that for real?
[18:59] * daftykins chuckles
[18:59] <brunch875> that's hillarious
[18:59] <ioria> it's not an animal it's a meal !!!
[18:59] <DJones> When did release date change to April 1st
[19:00] <petrvs> heh
[19:00] <MonkeyDust> it's mariah Carey
[19:00] <EriC^^> lol
[19:01] <ki7mt> DJones, rel-date for what?
[19:02] <jabbott> I'm getting black bars around my terminal window and some things like the drop downs in firefox when upgrading to Kernel 4.0 for Ubuntu 14.04. Does anyone know why this happens and how to fix it? http://screencloud.net/v/b5SQ
[19:02] <DJones> ki7mt: I was refering to the comments about haggis and the animal, made me think todays date was April fools day
[19:02] <ki7mt> LOL oh .. Ok
[19:02] <petrvs> no need for levity but once a year
[19:02] <MonkeyDust> jabbott kernel 4.0 may be beyond the scope of this channel
[19:05] <ioria> !info xchat
[19:05] <genii> spoown: For more casual discussion not directly related to Ubuntu support, #ubuntu-offtopic is the better channel
[19:05] <petrvs> !info hexchat
[19:07] <yxhuvud> so, I'm getting 'could not calculate the upgrade'. Anyone know how to find info about exactly what it is that make it fail?
[19:08] <MonkeyDust> yxhuvud what method did you try?
[19:08] <ioria> yxhuvud, gui ?
[19:08] <yxhuvud> both gui and tui.
[19:08] <MonkeyDust> yxhuvud did you get the iso from ubuntu.com?
[19:09] <ki7mt> may want to state, upgrade from what --> to what also
[19:09] <devicenull> Am I doing something wrong with debconf? https://gist.githubusercontent.com/devicenull/40c80e71bf8ce21bff1f/raw/3e443af8e83848c4a9bc8990c764cf257b79255f/gistfile1.txt
[19:09] <devicenull> I'm trying to update the cloud-init datasources, but dpkg-reconfigure seems to just reread what I have configured, and not actually update it
[19:09] <yxhuvud> monkey: do I need to? I have never needed that for earlier upgrades.
[19:09] <yxhuvud> ki7mt: from 14.10.
[19:10] <ioria> yxhuvud, you are updating directly from Updater ...
[19:11] <yxhuvud> ioria: yes, and I've also tried sudo do-release-upgrade
[19:12] <ioria> yxhuvud, i just upgraded 5 minutes ago in Lubuntu...
[19:12] <ioria> yxhuvud, but this is a test machine...
[19:13] <yxhuvud> my guess would be that it is the third-party graphics drivers that is the issue, but it would be nice to have a smoking gun
[19:13] <ki7mt> yxhuvud, what were the exact commands you used in the terminal to try the upgrade.
[19:14] <yxhuvud> in the terminal? sudo do-release-upgrade, just as I stated.
[19:14] <ioria> yxhuvud, the command do-release-upgrade tells no rlease found , also after changing release-upgrades ?
[19:15] <yxhuvud> not for me. it says "Could not calculate the upgrade " and gives some suggestions for where to look but without giving any advice for where to look
[19:16] <Bashing-om> yxhuvud: What returns ' grep Prompt= /etc/update-manager/release-upgrades ' ? And is all 3rd party PPAs disabled ?
[19:16] <ioria> yxhuvud, check /var/log/dist-upgrade/main.log
[19:17] <yxhuvud> ioria: ah, 2015-04-23 21:12:00,400 ERROR Dist-upgrade failed: 'E:Unable to correct problems, you have held broken packages.'
[19:18] <MonkeyDust> ioria +1
[19:18] <ioria> MonkyDust i'm just an humble servant ....
[19:18] <OerHeks> ""Could not calculate the upgrade, An unresolvable problem occurred while calculating the upgrade. > This can be caused by: * Upgrading to a pre-release version of Ubuntu, Running the current pre-release version of Ubuntu or Unofficial software packages not provided by Ubuntu "
[19:19] <yxhuvud> thanks. that problem seems googleable. I'll return if I get further issues
[19:19] <genii> yxhuvud: Sounds like you probably have stuff installed by PPAs or possibly manually
[19:19] <EriC^> yxhuvud: try sudo apt-get -f install
[19:19] <ioria> yxhuvud, in Synaptic Pac Man there is a tool to fix it ... i think
[19:19] <ioria> yxhuvud, and also in Grub
[19:20] <MonkeyDust> yxhuvud are you using alot of ppa's?
[19:20] <yxhuvud> genii: some of both. it was a real struggle getting the graphics card to work.
[19:20] <yxhuvud> monkeydust: a few.. mostly for aurora and modernized graphics driver.
[19:20] <ioria> yxhuvud, right ... you should remove ppa (not the program) for do-r-up
[19:21] <OerHeks> use the driver tool to reverse to the standard driver
[19:21] <MonkeyDust> yxhuvud outcomment the ppa sources (not delete them), then apt-get update and retry to upgrade
[19:23] <kostkon> yxhuvud, you might need to purge the ppas as a last resort, not just disable them
[19:24] <kostkon> !ppapurge
[19:25] <Thete> This purple has got to go
[19:29] <nokio> Hi all, quick question is someone already did something similar. Can i use wget to wget a page on my website that has some javascript. and in turn i would be able to grep and build a list of url that are hit/generated by hitting that page?
[19:30] <nokio> Like a wget --spider or -m of that page but that would be able to do the javascript part
[19:30] <nokio> if i make any sense
[19:30] <ki7mt> yxhuvud, y-ppa-manager .. a bit ironic, as it's also a PPA, is a good tool for manging PPA's : linky: https://launchpad.net/y-ppa-manager
[19:30] <petrvs> nokio: you can manage that, it's not quite as simple as wget alone though
[19:31] <petrvs> nokio: what is it you want from the JS?
[19:31] <PooCocktailSupre> yohohoho
[19:31] <petrvs> & a bottle of rum
[19:31] <PooCocktailSupre> about how long does it take 15.04 to make it to the servers
[19:31] <PooCocktailSupre> w0000000t
[19:32] <nokio> petrvs well when i call the page it's some generic php code which that part is fine. That call a leaflet to get a list of tile to show on the screen (im playing with tile server). I want to be able to get a list of tile that are asked on that page so that i can use those direct url to do some benching :p
[19:32] <nokio> the leaflet thing is the .js thing
[19:33] <petrvs> PooCocktailSupre: not there already?
[19:33] <petrvs> nokio: you can probably just grep from wget for that
[19:34] <codezomb> just installed 15.04 my sounds cards are detected, and test buttons work. However, nothing else in the system will play sounds. Changing volume doesn't help, and I've checked to make sure it's not muted.
[19:34] <codezomb> the devide is Audio device: Intel Corporation 8 Series/C220 Series Chipset High Definition Audio Controller
[19:34] <MonkeyDust> codezomb did you use alsamixer, in terminal?
[19:35] <codezomb> anyone have any ideas?
[19:35] <codezomb> MonkeyDust: I've checked it, I see automute is on but I cannot change it
[19:36] <nokio> petrvs, i must be missing something. when i open the page and look at the source code it is exactly what i get from wget. But, if i open the develop consol i can see the png that are loaded and their url.
[19:36] <ioria> codezomb, what you mean ?
[19:37] <codezomb> MonkeyDust: disabled automute just now with no results. I've also restarted alsa
[19:37] <PooCocktailSupre> software updater has nothing for me
[19:37] <yxhuvud> yay. purging the mesa ppa seems to work. thanks again!
[19:37] <codezomb> ioria: by what?
[19:38] <PooCocktailSupre> ahh never mind
[19:38] <ioria> codezomb, 'I cannot change' ...
[19:38] <codezomb> ioria: I was able to change the automute. So that's not the issue :/
[19:38] <codezomb> I thought maybe it was interfering
[19:39] <codezomb> System Settings -> Sound -> Test Sound (I get sound here)
[19:39] <codezomb> however I don't get sound anywhere else
[19:39] <petrvs> nokio: right.. wget is not a JS interpreter
[19:39] <petrvs> nokio: however one doesn't usually need a complete JS interpreter to extrapolate what ones want from a JS source
[19:39] <nokio> petrvs would you know of a tool that could do that ?
[19:41] <tehcereal> hello im having trouble installing ubuntu on my laptop :S
[19:41] <petrvs> nokio: I could probably come up with one if I needed, but again, one rarely needs
[19:41] <tehcereal> i tried 14.04 and after the installation when i reboot i get an compiz related issue
[19:42] <tehcereal> i get to login and after i try to login it sits for few seconds only the background showing and returns me to the login
[19:43] <tehcereal> i tried the newest 15.04 and the same thing happened but without the error pop up
[19:43] <tehcereal> :S
[19:43] <tehcereal> i never had any issues with ubuntu and kubuntu i installed yesterday worked without problems
[19:44] <tehcereal> what could the problem be ?
[19:45] <maku_> Hi! Where can I get the public PGP key to verify this? http://releases.ubuntu.com/15.04/SHA256SUMS.gpg
[19:45] <codezomb> this is interesting... When clicking test on either front-left or front-right I get sound playing from other sources... So for example, if I have a video playing in firefox, and hit from left I get sound. │
[19:45] <codezomb> │ │
[19:45] <codezomb> │ │
[19:45] <codezomb> wtf
[19:45] <codezomb> bah, stupid terminal. sorry about the paste
[19:46] <nokio> petrvs i will look into that thanks
[19:46] <ioria> tehcereal, you can't login ?
[19:47] <tehcereal> yes i tried multiple times with different tools to make a bootable usb and the md5sum matches
[19:47] <ioria> tehcereal, can you pass to a terminal alt+ctrl+f2 ?
[19:48] <tehcereal> ioria, on 14.04 lts yesterday i got an error after the first reboot it was a compiz related error
[19:48] <tehcereal> today i tried with 15.04 and the same thing happens
[19:48] <ioria> tehcereal, can you pass to a terminal alt+ctrl+f2 ?
[19:48] <tehcereal> i didnt try
[19:49] <tehcereal> what would you suggest?
[19:49] <ioria> tehcereal, if you don't have a shell we can't check anything...
[19:50] <ioria> tehcereal, pass to terminal
[19:51] <tehcereal> ioria, im in booted in windows right now
[19:51] <tehcereal> tell me what should i check for :D and ill restart and then report back
[19:51] <ioria> tehcereal, i think it's not the right place ... :)
[19:52] <ioria> tehcereal, boot in linux, i'd say
[19:53] <tehcereal> let me install an irc client on my other machine first :D
[19:54] <tehcereal> then we will be good to go btw thx for the help ioria
[19:54] <ioria> tehcereal, but now i'm going away... check your .Xauthority file in home, should be owned by user, then restart lightdm or gdm with sudo service restart... and then lspci -v and check your video card
[19:56] <ioria> tehcereal, compiz is tied to video card
[19:56] <tehcereal> ioria, thx will check
[19:56] <ioria> tehcereal, good luck mate
[20:02] <splitwire> bye
[20:03] <MENOTU> testing123
[20:03] <MENOTU> anyone awake?
[20:03] <MonkeyDust> MENOTU works, we see you
[20:03] <MENOTU> yay!
[20:05] <xavi_> Buenas, estoy intentando recuperar el Grub
[20:05] <sjmikem> so how long do you guys normally wait before updating your everyday machine to a new release
[20:05] <MonkeyDust> !es
[20:05] <xavi_> thx
[20:05] <MonkeyDust> sjmikem i wait two years (lrs only)
[20:05] <MonkeyDust> lts*
[20:06] <Inoki> Congratulations to the Ubuntu team on the new release. :)
[20:06] <sjmikem> MonkeyDust: that's a long time :-)
[20:07] <MENOTU> I'm happy with ubuntu. working on going windowless. :)
[20:07] <SchrodingersScat> sjmikem: month or two
[20:08] <Edir127> Hi
[20:09] <brunch875> I like how the webapps thingy with firefox works again
[20:09] <Edir127> I have a problem with 15.04
[20:09] <brunch875> and how lenses like grooveshark appear again
[20:09] <Edir127> It won't install on my laptop (but will on mY desktop)
[20:10] <Edir127> It freezes right before the OS detection.
[20:10] <Edir127> Totally frozen, can't even move mouse
[20:10] <Edir127> There's no partitions on the HDD
[20:10] <Edir127> Only grub
[20:11] <Edir127> Is there a help channel for Ubuntu?
[20:11] <xavi_> Hi all, i want to repair mi grub
[20:12] <Edir127> Hi
[20:13] <xavi_> i have an SSD with W10, W7 and ubuntu and the W system erase mi grub, can i repair o i have to intall the ubuntu another time? also i have an mbr hd, th eSSD is an GPT, are compatibles?
[20:14] <daftykins> !grub | xavi_
[20:14] <compyuser> hello, please help no soun in ubuntu with via 1724 chip
[20:14] <Edir127> Is there anyone listening willing to help me?
[20:14] <MonkeyDust> !patience | Edir127
[20:14] <Edir127> OK.
[20:15] <compyuser> hello, please help no sound in ubuntu with via 1724 chip
[20:15] <xavi_> thx ubottu
[20:15] <Edir127> I *think* that's a bot
[20:15] <Bashing-om> Edir127: The laptop is it UEFI and is secure/fast boot disabled ?
[20:15] <Edir127> It is not UEFI
[20:15] <xavi_> thx daftykins
[20:15] <chrisss123456> hey guys, super simple question: i want to update to 15.04 (woo!) but the update manager says there's nothing new, and so i'm stuck on 14.04. anyone know how to deal with that?
[20:16] <Edir127> I used to have 14.04 installed perfect
[20:16] <Edir127> Chriss
[20:16] <Edir127> Go into system settings
[20:16] <Edir127> Then software and updates
[20:16] <Edir127> Go to updates tab
[20:16] <Bashing-om> Edir127: $ primary partitions maxed out ? as in dual booting Windows, and Windows using all the partitions ?
[20:16] <chrisss123456> Edir127: ok done, and then?
[20:17] <Edir127> I am not attempting a dual boot, and there are currently no partitions on the drive
[20:17] <Edir127> Then
[20:17] <Edir127> You
[20:17] <Edir127> Change the bottom box to
[20:17] <daftykins> chrisss123456: you can't go 14.04 -> 15.04
[20:17] <Edir127> 'Any release'
[20:17] <daftykins> chrisss123456: you must go to 14.10 first
[20:17] <bazhang> Edir127, dont use enter as punctuation
[20:17] <Edir127> Sorry
[20:18] <chrisss123456> daftykins: ok, i guess it'll do them in order? or do i have to do it manually?
[20:18] <Edir127> In order, chriss123456
[20:21] <Edir127> I tried upgrading from 14.04 to 14.10 (so I could go to 15.04) but it failed because power was lost during the process. I tried doing a clean install of 15.04, but it always crashes immediately before the prompt to overwrite existing OSs. The exact same media works on another PC. Deleting all partitions from the drive made no difference, but an old 12.04 disc I have does not crash at that point.
[20:22] <chrisss123456> ok great! thanks so much!
[20:22] <Edir127> No problem
[20:23] <daftykins> Edir127: dd zero the first 100MB of the drive then try again perhaps
[20:23] <chrisss123456> also, another question: i have a porsche hard drive, and i can't write on it for some reason. i tried finding stuff online but maybe im just not understanding how to fix it. does anyone know how to make it writeable?
[20:23] <Edir127> How can I do that?
[20:23] <k1l_> chrisss123456: porsche harddrive?
[20:24] <chrisss123456> k1l_: sounds posher than it is: https://www.lacie.com/uk/products/product.htm?id=10559
[20:24] <Edir127> daftykins: How can I do so?
[20:24] <daftykins> Edir127: sudo dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/sdX bs=2M count=50
[20:24] <k1l_> chrisss123456: ah, that is just a "designed" external hard drive. well, put it into usb port and see what dmesg tells you about it
[20:24] <daftykins> where sdX is the disk in question
[20:24] <Edir127> daftykins: Thankyou
[20:27] <compyuser> please help no soun in ubuntu
[20:28] <chrisss123456> k1l_: dmesg gives out a lot.. what would i look for in particular
[20:28] <k1l_> !paste | chrisss123456
[20:28] <daftykins> the bit at the end when you plug in the drive, chrisss123456
[20:29] <Edir127> daftykins: Your solution to my problem did not help (unless I need to reboot)
[20:29] <_guest_> hello folks, is unity 2D/unity fallback still in the repos?
[20:29] <chrisss123456> daftykins: k1l_: when running dmesg, i get more text than the terminal can show... am i doing something wrong?
[20:29] <k1l_> _guest_: no
[20:29] <Edir127> _guest_: No,
[20:29] <_guest_> darn
[20:29] <bazhang> !notunity
[20:29] <daftykins> Edir127: well what are you trying, installing 15.04 again?
[20:30] <bazhang> !info gnome-panel
[20:30] <Edir127> daftykins: yes
[20:30] <k1l_> chrisss123456: no. dmesg lists all messages from the system beginning from boot time. just schow us tha last 20 lines
[20:30] <kjdro> hello, can anyone help me with VSFTPD SFTP SSL configuration ???
[20:30] <Edir127> daftykins: what I find odd is that 12.04 works
[20:31] <daftykins> Edir127: you'd have to at least restart the installer
[20:31] <k1l_> _guest_: gnome (which is the base under unity7) uses llvmpipe for 2d rendering with cpu since some time. that is what gnome and unity uses
[20:31] <Edir127> daftykins: good point xD
[20:31] <chrisss123456> k1l_: ah i understand. here they are :http://pastebin.com/zZnzW784
[20:31] <aaanderse> hi i can't seem to find a link to the alternate installer for the new ubuntu version... any help?
[20:31] <kjdro> i have been trying to configure svftpd on Unbuntu 14.04 LTS server since weeks and i can't seem to find a fix anywhere
[20:32] <kjdro> sroyy it's vsftpd
[20:32] <DJones> aaanderse: There hasn't been an alternate installer for quite a few releases, if you want a text based installer to can use the minimal installer
[20:32] <k1l_> chrisss123456: so its hfsplus on that external drive? the mac files system?
[20:32] <bazhang> aaanderse, there is mini only, no alternate
[20:32] <DJones> !minimal | aaanderse
[20:32] <chrisss123456> k1l_: that may be the case. i did use this for a mac computer before switching
[20:33] <aaanderse> DJones: if in documentation if i want to install raid i need alternate installer... that means mini now?
[20:33] <chrisss123456> k1l_: do you suggest formatting the drive then?>
[20:33] <k1l_> chrisss123456: well, hfsplus is a pain. i am not familiar with making that work.
[20:33] <DJones> aaanderse: I don't know, I've not installed in a raid format
[20:33] <aaanderse> DJones: ok, thank you
[20:34] <daftykins> aaanderse: yes it does, or server afaiui
[20:34] <k1l_> chrisss123456: yes.
[20:34] <chrisss123456> k1l_: bugger. alright, thanks so much for the help! :)
[20:34] <k1l_> chrisss123456: i would use ntfs on external drives anyway so you can use that drive on windows machines when needed.
[20:35] <Edir127> daftykins: I rebooted and the problem persists.
[20:35] <chrisss123456> k1l_: so between fat32 and ntfs you would suggest ntfs? howcome?
[20:36] <k1l_> chrisss123456: no 4gb limit :)
[20:36] <Edir127> Fat33 generally has better compatability with obscure devices but NTFS fragments less
[20:36] <Edir127> 32*
[20:36] <chrisss123456> k1l_: very true. Edir127, fair. thanks :)
[20:36] <petrvs> ntfs supports larger files
[20:36] <timfox123> Hello. I am having a real problem installing the VMWare tools for the current Ubuntu LTS. How do I get the Iso and mount it in a VMWare Esx environment ?
[20:36] <k1l_> and on usb2 the slower speed from ntfs doesnt matter anyway :)
[20:36] <petrvs> but it's a lot worse in some ways, heh
[20:37] <daftykins> Edir127: hrmm that's me out of ideas then. don't suppose you've got another disk to try in it? :)
[20:37] <petrvs> there's also no proper fsck for ntfs in Unix land
[20:37] <Edir127> Well, the 12.04 disk works. The 15.04 USB drive I am using works flawlessly on my desktop.
[20:37] <compyuser> please help no sound in ubuntu
[20:38] <daftykins> Edir127: i refer to HDD/SSD.
[20:38] <aaanderse> daftykins: great! just grabbed it and looking good so far...
[20:39] <Edir127> daftykins: No, I do not. Perhaps I could remove the HDD and put another USB drive in, would it detect that instead (if it works I know the HDD is at fault)
[20:40] <daftykins> Edir127: yep, or run driveless
[20:40] <Edir127> Ok
[20:42] <reborn> anyone can tell me about this ? http://i.imgur.com/snmcnnq.png
[20:43] <k1l_> reborn: its a optimizing thingy for the cpu microcode. you need to enable it manually since its a prop. code.
[20:44] <kjdro> Pls HELP i have been trying to configure svftpd on Unbuntu 14.04 LTS server since weeks and i can't seem to find a fix anywhere
[20:45] <kjdro> Pls HELP i have been trying to configure vsftpd on Unbuntu 14.04 LTS server since weeks and i can't seem to find a fix anywhere, the connection says login OK but i can't actually log in to the sftp
[20:45] <Edir127> daftykins: With the HDD removed, the problem persists
[20:45] <ikonia> kjdro: whats the actual problem ?
[20:45] <daftykins> Edir127: weird!
[20:46] <bekks> kjdro: sftp isnt configured by vsftpd, but by openssh.
[20:48] <kostkon> reborn, it's a good thing, install it
[20:48] <reborn> what's is exactly this?
[20:48] <kjdro> ikonia: Trying to configure SFTP access to chrooter users, i'm trying to connect using wnscp and also total commander sftp connection. So far, the log in ubuntu shows that login OK for my IP, but on the other side, the connection is refused
[20:49] <daftykins> reborn: a support chat channel
[20:50] <kjdro> bekks: i know, i think there might be a problem with pam ..... but i couldn't fix this... or find any hint to what's actually wrong
[20:50] <ikonia> kjdro: "on the other side" ?
[20:50] <ikonia> it either logs in - or it doesn't
[20:50] <kjdro> bekks: in total commander i get something like this: SSL_read returned -1, SSL_get_error=1 OFFLINE2, error=0 SSL_read returned 0, SSL_get_error=5, ERR_get_error=0
[20:50] <kostkon> reborn, patches parts of you cpu on-the-fly at boot time with bug fixes, better performance etc
[20:51] <bekks> kjdro: Which port are you trying to connect to?
[20:51] <kjdro> ikonia: windows, from where i try to connect to the sftp
[20:51] <ikonia> kjdro: so a.) ssh will act as an sftp server b.) are you sure you've configured vsftpd to listen on the right ports
[20:52] <okrusty> hey, i just updated to 15.04 and am seeing an undefined symbol error when starting pulseaudio... anyone have a solution to this? pulseaudio: symbol lookup error: pulseaudio: undefined symbol: pa_inotify_start
[20:52] <kjdro> ikonia: i followed all the guids, pl;us i had a configuration that was working on the previous ubuntu LTS, and it's not working on 14.04
[20:52] <bekks> kjdro: Which port are you trying to connect to?
[20:52] <kjdro> *guide's
[20:52] <YvesLevier> Wouldnt be out of topic : My heart is yelling this : I hate windows
[20:52] <Edir127> daftykins: When I was updating to 14.10 and the power was lost, I rebooted and allowed dpkg to carry on where it left off; the only part of the upgrade that remained undone was 'cleaning up'. Upon a further reboot, grub went into grub rescue. I can't remember the error message. The even weirder thing is that the drives can be r/w'd to absolutely fine in 15.04's 'Try Ubuntu'
[20:52] <kjdro> bekks: port 20, and passive sftp connection
[20:52] <daftykins> YvesLevier: yes it's childish and doesn't belong here.
[20:53] <bekks> kjdro: sftp uses port 22.
[20:53] <kostkon> okrusty, apt-get clean then apt-get update, then apt-get upgrade
[20:53] <reborn> do i have to reboot after install that?
[20:53] <YvesLevier> daftykins: in other words : Thx to hold our Ubuntu community :) (sorry for the "hate") will pay attention.
[20:54] <kostkon> okrusty, then if nou believe it is needed apt-get dist-upgrade
[20:54] <kostkon> reborn, reboot and it your cpu will get patched, and every time you reboot
[20:55] <kostkon> minus it8
[20:55] <kostkon> it*
[20:55] <Edir127> daftykins: I just remembered that I had a password set in grub, and when grub updated, some settings were lost and I was unable to log into it. Then, trying to install 15.04 and failing, then a reboot, that is when I got to grub rescue
[20:56] <kjdro> bekks: i know, it's not port problem, on ubuntu /var/log/vsftpd.log i have confirmation of LOGIN OK
[20:56] <bekks> kjdro: You are constantly mixing things up. Either you are using SFTP (which uses ssh which uses port 22), or you are using ftp(s) which can be done by vsftpd, which uses port 20 and 21.
[20:57] <bekks> kjdro: sftp is not done by vsftpd.
[20:57] <ikonia> vsftpd can do it
[20:57] <bekks> ikonia: Really?
[20:57] <ikonia> yeah
[20:57] <bekks> ikonia: TIL. :)
[20:57] <ikonia> but why would you....
[20:57] <bekks> ikonia: :D
[20:57] <MonkeyDust> what's "til" mean?
[20:58] <bekks> MonkeyDust: Things I Learned.
[20:58] <k1l_> *today
[20:58] <bekks> :D
[20:58] <MonkeyDust> onigi (oh, now i get it) ;)
[21:00] <maku_> Where can I obtain the public signing key of Canonical used to sign hashes?
[21:00] <araaragot> Greetings.
[21:00] <kjdro> bekks: apparently ssh broke, now it de-connects me even from remote ssh so i gues... will continue some other time... DAMN....
[21:00] <kjdro> so good night... and thx !
[21:01] <kostkon> okrusty, if you've upgraded, definitely do a dist-upgrade
[21:01] <araaragot> When I try to make a new bootable usb with startup disk creator is says Failed to install boatloader. What do I do?
[21:02] <Edir127> daftykins: I'm going to call it a night, I'm too tired to pursue this further today.
[21:02] <okrusty> kostkon, thanks - i'll give that a try
[21:03] <maku_> araaragot: I get that if I don't type admin password soon enough after the creator prompts it
[21:03] <araaragot> Not really, I type the password and it still fails to install the bootloader.
[21:04] <araaragot> I tried doing it from root, but same deal.
[21:06] <GR4> hui
[21:07] <escargotdu25> hi ! are ioria and kll connected ?
[21:07] <CASADO45> SEX
[21:07] <petrvs> escargotdu25: /wii k1l_
[21:07] <okrusty> kostkon, that fixed it. thanks
[21:08] <escargotdu25> hi petrvs
[21:08] <petrvs> hi
[21:08] <GR4> its quite interesting, i didnt know, how big is this channel yet :D nice surprise
[21:09] <escargotdu25> i have now downloaded a new version of ubuntu (14.04) and can use libreoffice and vlc to read audio cds
[21:10] <k1l_> escargotdu25: alright then :)
[21:10] <escargotdu25> petrvs and kll thanks a lot for your help
[21:10] <petrvs> gj
[21:11] <kostkon> okrusty, np
[21:12] <escargotdu25> kll i am still a novice but i hope to learn more about ubuntu and how to use it
[21:13] <k1l_> escargotdu25: wich 14.04 you got 5 years support now. so you dont run in the problems like you did with 12.10. that is a good start now
[21:15] <zerowaitstate> df -h
[21:15] <zerowaitstate> oops
[21:15] <Juje> Can someone help me with a error regarding udev?
[21:15] <escargotdu25> kll thanks just a question : i can't use instant messageries yet like pingin or amsn or emesen i can't configure these apps
[21:16] <myslite> test
[21:16] <myslite> quelqu'un voit ce que j'écris?
[21:16] <escargotdu25> myslite oui
[21:16] <bazhang> !fr | myslite
[21:17] <myslite> Okay thanks, I'm new and I wonder how can I join an other server/chat, somebody can help me?
[21:17] <k1l_> myslite: "/join #channelname"
[21:18] <myslite> Thanks
[21:19] <escargotdu25> kll i'm in the same situation as mslite
[21:25] <EvilCreep> Ugh been at it for over an hour.. Google isn't helping... Can someone explain how the group permission systems works. How do I give user "www-data" read/write permission to folder /home/Minecraft/Minecraft/server/playerdata (and all files and future files) which is owned by user "Minecraft"?
[21:26] <sigpipe> is there a way to file bugs on apport without apport installed? i was trying to file another bug on a headless server and it seems apport-cli is the recommended program, but it 'apt-get install apport' fails
[21:26] <EvilCreep> I get chmod... change the permission of a file for the current user but don't have a clue how to give access not ownership to a folder or file to another user.
[21:26] <Kottizen> Hi everyone! I'm trying to install Kubuntu 15.04 to my SSD disk, but the installation gets stuck at "Creating ext4 file system for / [...]". What should I do?
[21:27] <AndrewMC> EvilCreep: Check out chown... that'll let you change ownership and groups to a file/folder
[21:27] <daftykins> Kottizen: try partitioning manually first.
[21:27] <Kottizen> daftykins: I've tried both manual and guided partitioning in the installation guide. Should I try something else?
[21:27] <EvilCreep> I don't want to change ownership I need that folder and it's files to remain owned by "Minecraft" but I would like to access those files via apache/php.
[21:28] <Kottizen> daftykins: It might be worth noting that I am devoting my entire SSD to Kubuntu, so the setup isn't difficult.
[21:28] <daftykins> Kottizen: i'm getting at using gparted to make them, then simply use them
[21:28] <EvilCreep> Maybe the SSD is in RAID mode in the BIOS.
[21:28] <Kottizen> daftykins: I'll give it a try, thanks.
[21:28] <Kottizen> EvilCreep: Thanks for the suggestion, but it isn't.
[21:28] <AndrewMC> EvilCreep: ... can you change the group safely? As in, get the users that need access into a group then give that group, group ownership
[21:29] <Ben64> EvilCreep: ACLs
[21:29] <daftykins> EvilCreep: seriously you're still on this? give a pastebin of "ls -al /path/that/is/relevant/"
[21:30] <michael__> test
[21:31] <Guest26881> when i install ubuntu 15.04 i have a problem i cant restart and shotdown my laptop
[21:31] <Guest62075> Wow! Hello everybody
[21:31] <Guest26881> pleas help me!
[21:32] <Guest26881> when i install ubuntu 15.04 i have a problem i cant restart and shotdown my laptop!!! yy???
[21:32] <_Trullo> then always keep it on!
[21:33] <h00k> Guest26881: you can't restart it, why? Are you getting any particular error?
[21:33] <Kottizen> daftykins: Looks like it's working! At least it is copying.
[21:33] <daftykins> huzzah!
[21:34] <Guest26881> no no i just cant reastart when i want to restart my laptop hang
[21:34] <gabe_> hello
[21:34] <gabe_> does anyone here play minecraft
[21:35] <petrvs> probably someone
[21:35] <EvilCreep> I do..
[21:35] <machdohvah> test
[21:35] <Ben64> machdohvah: please test things elsewhere
[21:36] <bazhang> !test
[21:36] <Guest26881> I've just installed ubuntu 15.04 on my laptop (Asus N56JR).
[21:36] <Guest26881> I noticed that when i click on reset/shutdown my computer freezes and it wont turn off. I waited for too long, But nothing happened. I also install nvidia-340 [propreitary] driver on my system alongside nvidia-settings-server for switching between Nvidia and Intel, but after rebooting, It went to low graphics mode and after loging into my account it went to black screen and everything freezed. I even couldn't go to tty mode.
[21:36] <Guest26881> My laptop has no such problems with kernel 3.13, but in 3.19, it seems like it can not use my laptop's nvidia graphics card and just works on Nouveau display driver.
[21:36] <Guest26881> I really need a fix for this issue, cause my laptop is much faster and smoother on kernel 3.19.x but it lags on 3.13 .
[21:37] <cheus> Hi. I upgraded to 15.04 today and now cannot join wireless networks. This looks like some kind of permissions issue with network manager since the frontend is available but I'm not allowed to save changes to it or input a network password.
[21:37] <maku_> Ok, I ran a /dev/zero on a USB device, succesfully created a startup disk, yet I get this error during boot:
[21:37] <maku_> "gfxboot.c32: not a COM32R image"
[21:37] <EvilCreep> daftykins: So you want a pastbin of the output of ls on the desired directory?
[21:37] <TiK> Guest26881: so use the old kernel
[21:37] <maku_> oh, the USB drive was FAT32 formatted
[21:37] <machdohvah> So, am I to understand that 15.04 is available and the users who install it already having problems with it?
[21:38] <Guest26881> I've just installed ubuntu 15.04 on my laptop (Asus N56JR).
[21:38] <Guest26881> I noticed that when i click on reset/shutdown my computer freezes and it wont turn off. I waited for too long, But nothing happened. I also install nvidia-340 [propreitary] driver on my system alongside nvidia-settings-server for switching between Nvidia and Intel, but after rebooting, It went to low graphics mode and after loging into my account it went to black screen and everything freezed. I even couldn't go to tty mode.
[21:38] <Guest26881> My laptop has no such problems with kernel 3.13, but in 3.19, it seems like it can not use my laptop's nvidia graphics card and just works on Nouveau display driver.
[21:38] <Guest26881> I really need a fix for this issue, cause my laptop is much faster and smoother on kernel 3.19.x but it lags on 3.13 .
[21:38] <daftykins> EvilCreep: yep, though if we continue at this rate i will likely be asleep before we can find a solution.
[21:38] <Ben64> Guest26881: don't paste so many lines at once, and wait like 15+ minutes before repeating
[21:39] <daftykins> Guest26881: did you include nvidia-prime ?
[21:39] <daftykins> Guest26881: also what model nvidia graphics...
[21:39] <Guest26881> yess
[21:39] <Guest26881> I also install nvidia-340 [propreitary] driver
[21:39] <daftykins> Guest26881: i didn't ask for that part because i read it the first time.
[21:40] <maku_> ok, looks like I solved the COM32R image error, (hit tab + enter 'live' and press enter)
[21:40] <Guest26881> y i cant restart my system on ubuntu 15.04?
[21:41] <daftykins> Guest26881: fair enough if you can't answer my questions i can't help :)
[21:41] <machdohvah> Is Guest26881 a bot?
[21:42] <Guest26881> im not bot
[21:42] <machdohvah> ok
[21:42] <EvilCreep> daftykins: http://paste.ubuntu.com/10874401/
[21:42] <Guest26881> i use intel grafic driver :(
[21:42] <machdohvah> I just installed 14.04 and I have no problems. I have a baby tower
[21:43] <Guest26881> can u help me pleas i use intel default grafic driver on ubuntu 15.04 and i cant reastart and power off my system :(
[21:44] <machdohvah> 14.10 was giving me a hassle
[21:44] <Ben64> machdohvah: if you just want to chat and stuff, you should do that in #ubuntu-offtopic ... this channel is for support only
[21:45] <machdohvah> OK
[21:45] <machdohvah> bye
[21:45] <daftykins> EvilCreep: right so create a group, add www-data and Minecraft to it, then change that folders ownership with "sudo chown Minecraft:groupname /path/* "
[21:45] <galigan> I just have an issue with my usb3 ports and an usb3 hdd... can someone help me?
[21:46] <daftykins> EvilCreep: sudo addgroup groupname ; sudo adduser www-data groupname ; sudo adduser Minecraft groupname
[21:46] <Guest26881> daftykins can u help me? i asked ur quastion
[21:46] <Guest26881> i answerd*
[21:46] <daftykins> Guest26881: no because you have two separate questions and still haven't provided the information i asked for.
[21:47] <Guest26881> daftykins but my quastion is only about restart problem on ubuntu 15.04
[21:47] <daftykins> Guest26881: trying to nag me for assistance is a great way to get ignored.
[21:48] <Guest26881> daftykins madaret jendast?
[21:49] <daftykins> Guest26881: attempting to insult someone in another language is not a clever move. goodbye!
[21:53] <galigan> I just have an issue with my usb3 ports and an usb3 hdd... can someone help me?
[21:53] <bekks> galigan: That depends on the issue...
[21:53] <galigan> it doesn't work
[21:54] <galigan> if i plug an usb2 hdd it works... but not for usb3
[21:54] <bekks> galigan: Are you using a USB3 cable, too?
[21:54] <galigan> yes
[21:56] <pr0tlogic> I am trying to install ubuntu and I have raid 10 setup, but the installer does not recognize the logical drive, I am using the alternative installer.
[21:57] <bekks> pr0tlogic: Which RAID controller do you have?
[21:58] <pr0tlogic> Not raid controller, it's on the motherboard, I am trying to look up the board now.
[21:59] <cellis> hello
[22:01] <daftykins> pr0tlogic: are you talking about mini.iso when you say 'alternate installer' ?
[22:02] <petrvs> cellis: hi
[22:05] <maku_> damn, the FDE password prompt of 15.04 is still black occasionally after boot
[22:06] <bekks> maku_: Whats the "FDE password prompt"?
[22:06] <daftykins> full disk encryption
[22:06] <sigpipe> maku_: i had the same problem. on my system if i remove "splash" from the kernel command line i can see the prompt
[22:07] <EvilCreep> daftykins: Ran the commands and it looks like it works but I can't get a peep out of php when trying to access files in that directory.. no errors or output..
[22:07] <daftykins> rest might be down to learning PHP / web server admin
[22:07] <daftykins> i gotta go, nn
[22:07] <EvilCreep> thanks for the help
[22:08] <daftykins> np
[22:08] <amgadhs> hello
[22:09] <petrvs> 'lo
[22:09] <kostkon> 'o
[22:09] <petrvs> '
[22:09] * petrvs wins!
[22:09] <maku_> sigpipe: thanks, I'll look into it
[22:10] <pr0tlogic> I am trying to install ubuntu and I have raid 10 setup, but the installer does not recognize the logical drive, I am using the alternative installer.
[22:10] <pr0tlogic> The machine im using is http://sellout.woot.com/offers/hp-quad-core-desktop-w-12gb-ram-2tb-hd-1
[22:10] <nillawafer> pr0tlogic: By alternative installer, do you mean you are using the mini.iso?
[22:10] <pr0tlogic> No, I mean alternative as in the debian installer and not the unity one.
[22:11] <pr0tlogic> The ubuntu site calls it "alternate installer"
[22:11] <petrvs> pr0tlogic: might want to use debootstrap for a real special setup
[22:11] <MichaelTiebesl> hey hello, will the spec from 15.04 also move to 14.04?
[22:12] <kostkon> MichaelTiebesl, spec?
[22:12] <brainwash_> specification
[22:13] <petrvs> brainwash_: classic
[22:13] <MichaelTiebesl> kostkon: i mean in 14.04 there is a combination from gnome 3.10 3.12 right and in 15.04 there is 3.14
[22:13] <brainwash_> vanilla?
[22:13] <petrvs> pr0tlogic: how much was that?
[22:13] <pr0tlogic> it was super cheap, I bought it a while ago
[22:13] <nillawafer> pr0tlogic: So what version of Ubuntu are you trying to install? I could be wrong, but I don't believe that an "alternate install cd" has been created since Ubuntu 12.04.
[22:14] <pr0tlogic> I tried 12.10 and LTS
[22:14] <MichaelTiebesl> kostkon: so will 14.04 also get gnome 3.14 after a while?
[22:14] <bekks> pr0tlogic: Which LTS?
[22:14] <kostkon> MichaelTiebesl, no
[22:14] <kostkon> MichaelTiebesl, if you want 3.14 the only option is 15.04
[22:15] <pr0tlogic> 14.04.2 LTS
[22:15] <MichaelTiebesl> kostkon: same as with kernel?
[22:15] <MichaelTiebesl> kostkon: okay thanks
[22:15] <kostkon> MichaelTiebesl, no
[22:15] <pr0tlogic> when was 15.04 released?
[22:16] <kostkon> MichaelTiebesl, the situation with the kernel is different https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kernel/LTSEnablementStack
[22:16] <k1l_> pr0tlogic: today
[22:16] <pr0tlogic> thought so.
[22:16] <nillawafer> pr0tlogic: I don't believe an "alternate install cd" exists for Ubuntu 14.04.2 LTS.
[22:16] <pr0tlogic> cool I am going to give it a try
[22:16] <pr0tlogic> maybe it will solve my issue
[22:16] <pr0tlogic> nill: no it does it
[22:17] <pr0tlogic> does not.
[22:17] <pr0tlogic> i was using 14.04 for that
[22:17] <pr0tlogic> not 12.10 my mistake
[22:18] <nillawafer> pr0tlogic: Definitely the 3.19 kernel included in 15.04 is going to support more hardware. Give 15.04 a shot and see what happens.
[22:18] <petrvs> pr0tlogic: yeah but in dollars, heh
[22:18] <MichaelTiebesl> kostkon: thanks for the link
[22:18] <kostkon> MichaelTiebesl, np
[22:19] <talsamon> hallo: 15.04/i386: /dev/zram0: Swap-Header konnte nicht gelesen werden (Swap header could not read); mkswap: error: swap area needs to be at least 40 KiB - whats to do?
[22:19] <pr0tlogic> thanks all for the help
[22:19] <pr0tlogic> sexy as usual :)
[22:19] <wafflejock> MichaelTiebesl, have had moderate success updating to newer versions of gnome using PPAs but no one really can support your system with custom PPAs if you have problems
[22:20] <Tin_man> so, is this 15.04 supposed to show up in the {Software Updater}? or ??? i've downloaded the 64bit ISO to test. I was under the impression that it was going to be in the updater..
[22:20] <MichaelTiebesl> wafflejock: i tried to avoid ppa
[22:20] <MichaelTiebesl> wafflejock: i use ppa only for kodi and picard
[22:20] <wafflejock> MichaelTiebesl, as you should just throwing it out there
[22:21] <MichaelTiebesl> wafflejock: im downloading it now...lol
[22:21] * [n0mad] refuses to add gnome ppas to this install
[22:21] <MichaelTiebesl> wafflejock: but i thought when it will move to 14.04 i better can stay with the 14.04 then
[22:22] <wafflejock> MichaelTiebesl, yeah I have my laptop I use for work stuff so I don't mess around with PPAs unless I absolutely need something (rare if ever) and tinker around on my desktop I use for gaming here or there
[22:23] <wafflejock> so think I install 3.16 on there for Gnome to see some of the fancy animations but looking forward to the changes to the bottom drawer thing being moved into the notifications panel and some other things coming down the pipeline
[22:23] <MichaelTiebesl> wafflejock: i have a xbox for gaming, pc is more other things. but same with me that i dont mess around with ppa
[22:24] <sigpipe> Tin_man: if you originally installed a LTS release, you may not be prompted to upgrade to 15.04 unless you change the settings to suggest non-LTS versions
[22:25] <Tin_man> just read it on the website, just changed it. Thanks..
[22:34] <jack_guru> I am trying to run spotify on 15.04, but it complaints that libgcrypt.so.11 is missing. I tried installing libgcrypt11 but apparently it's not there. Any ideas? I'd like to avoid installing the deb from another release/distro
[22:34] <Dragostini> Ah
[22:34] <Dragostini> I JUST DID THIS jack_guru
[22:34] <Dragostini> download and install this; one sec
[22:35] <Dragostini> http://mirrors.kernel.org/ubuntu/pool/main/libg/libgcrypt11/libgcrypt11_1.5.4-2ubuntu1.1_amd64.deb
[22:35] <Dragostini> That'll solve your issue right away.
[22:35] <Dragostini> Im running 15.04 myself.
[22:36] <jack_guru> thanks Dragostini! No way to get it from the repos? That's sad.. I will install this :) Thanks!
[22:36] <Dragostini> You probably could from here deb http://cz.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu utopic-updates main
[22:36] <Dragostini> :)
[22:36] <talcite> hi guys. I'm trying to debug something in a docker instance but I don't have access to a native ubuntu install. Can someone check for me whether buildbot-slave exists in the vivid repos?
[22:37] <talcite> It's listed on packages.ubuntu.com but I can't find it with apt-cache search
[22:37] <bazhang> !find buildbot-slave
[22:37] <Dragostini> jack_guru: http://packages.ubuntu.com/utopic-updates/amd64/libgcrypt11/download
[22:37] <jack_guru> Dragostini, I just wanted to avoid it, but whatever :) I got spotify working again! Thanks!
[22:37] <Dragostini> That has links to other mirrors, and the info for the repo
[22:37] <Dragostini> np
[22:38] <talcite> hmmm. Thanks. I guess it's the docker image that has an issue
[22:41] <Tin_man> I'm gathering that in order to upgrade to 15.04, you have to have 14.10 upgrade 1st..
[22:41] <bekks> Tin_man: When having 14.04, you are right.
[22:43] <Rex_> help
[22:43] <Rex_> http://www.ubuntu.com/download/desktop/contribute/?version=14.04.2&architecture=amd64
[22:43] <Rex_> why is it am64?
[22:43] <Rex_> amd
[22:43] <jnoob22> looking....
[22:43] <nillawafer> Rex_: amd64 means that the binary packages have been compiled to run on 64-bit systems
[22:43] <Rex_> oh thanks
[22:44] <jnoob22> just think x86_64
[22:44] <jnoob22> same thing really.
[22:44] <jnoob22> hmm does anyone compile all of their linux packages anymore? I haven't seen anyone do that in ages.
[22:44] <Tin_man> thats what i just figured out , cause my first upgrade came up 14.10.. so this will take some time.. :)
[22:45] <wafflejock> jnoob22, typically people who are building most everything from source I believe use arch
[22:45] <phpcoder> so fist opinions? how this 15.4 is going? :D
[22:45] <jnoob22> ok, didn't know arch did that either (like the old LFS or gentoo, etc)
[22:45] <Rex_> hi
[22:46] <wafflejock> jnoob22, I still end up compiling things here or there to check out the latest or to work around a bug but no reason to be compiling things all day when canonical distributes debs already built and tested
[22:46] <wafflejock> jnoob22, yeah pretty sure the AUR is for source to build from, not positive on that but that's the gist I got, still haven't done a full arch install myself
[22:46] <jnoob22> wafflejock, exactly. i do the same usually to test out some features with Python and our software here at work.
[22:47] <jnoob22> sadly, i am no longer interested in that stuff.
[22:47] <nogoodnamesleft> About to install Vivid - anything to be aware of?
[22:47] <jnoob22> kernel hacking and that like.
[22:47] <brainwash_> nogoodnamesleft: read the release notes which should point you to the "known issues" section
[22:48] <jnoob22> i wish urls like http://releases.ubuntu.com/15.04/ would auto-complete on the right end for available uri's ... i almost started typing release... there.
[22:49] <jnoob22> kinda defeats the purpose of security by obscurity.
[22:50] <jnoob22> nogoodnamesleft, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/VividVervet/ReleaseNotes#Known_issues
[22:51] <orakar> Checking IRC client. Can people read this?
[22:51] <nogoodnamesleft> jnoob22: brainwash_ Thanks.
[22:51] <petrvs> orakar: nope, it's all in greek
[22:51] <orakar> petrvs: ;-) thanks
[22:52] <petrvs> :p
[22:52] <nogoodnamesleft> I have a multi-gpu & multi-monitor system and installation is never smooth for me. We'll see!
[23:01] <XposWinU> How can I generate a Freenode room list text file, from terminal?
[23:02] <tr3nton> Is there any pros cons to installing packages in a one command vs installing packages in a line for each package. e.g. apt-get install pkg1 pkg2 vs apt-get install pkg1 apt-get install pkg2
[23:04] <acz32> XposWinU: i don't think that's possible
[23:06] <XposWinU> acz32: I think you're mistaken.
[23:11] <skinux> Is EHCP a good control panel to install on Ubuntu??
[23:12] <petrvs> there are no good hosting control panels
[23:12] <petrvs> they're all unmaintained and full of security problems
[23:12] <petrvs> (only slightly) sad, but true
[23:13] <talsamon> second try: mkswap: error: swap area needs to be at least 40 KiB;zram-config.service: main process exited, code=exited, status=255/n/a;Failed to start Initializes zram swaping - something to do , ignore - what is to do
[23:14] <talsamon> on 15.04
[23:15] <nogoodnamesleft> boot time hasn't changed
[23:16] <XposWinU> How do I generate a Freenode room list text file, from terminal?
[23:16] <petrvs> XposWinU: you could run '/list' while logging is on
[23:16] <petrvs> but you'll regert it
[23:16] <petrvs> and even regret it
[23:18] <nogoodnamesleft> When I install with LVM, it always automatically partitions the entire disk. How do I leave some space unallocated?
[23:19] <XposWinU> petrvs: Why would I regret it? and how does that result in me having a text file?
[23:20] <petrvs> you'll just have to try it and see =)
[23:20] <petrvs> you won't regret it more than 5 minutes, it's not like it's an implementation of stab-over-ip
[23:21] <skinux> petrvs: Well, there are commercial cPanel, DirectAdmin, Plesk which are obviously maintained.
[23:21] <petrvs> doesn't make them secure =)
[23:21] <petrvs> if you're going to use something insecure, I recommend not paying for it
[23:22] <Bashing-om> XposWinU: In your status window do ' /help list ' . For what will result if/when you do .
[23:22] <skinux> Well, I'm not going to pay for any control panel, except ones that come with hosting I purchase.
[23:22] <petrvs> that's um... okay then
[23:22] <EriC^^> XposWinU: do you have xchat?
[23:23] <XposWinU> petrvs: What a trollish thing to say.
[23:23] <skinux> However, I meant if EHCP is a good control panel, since i know that WebMin totally doesn't go with Ubuntu.
[23:23] <XposWinU> EriC^^: Yes I have xchat
[23:24] <skinux> I use HexChat since XChat isn't maintained.
[23:24] <urvink> Any word on Google Drive integration into Ubuntu?
[23:24] <eshiffob> Guys, I need help
[23:25] <Bashing-om> !ask | eshiffob
[23:25] <nogoodnamesleft> Oh great. In Legacy BIOS mode, the Vivid live installer won't boot. In UEFI mode it boots but won't see other operating systems.
[23:25] <EriC^^> xchat makes a nice list
[23:25] <petrvs> urvink: there are apps for it here and there
[23:25] <blee> if i have multiple interfaces set using different dns_nameservers
[23:25] <blee> how does ubuntu figure out which one to use?
[23:26] <rex_> hi
[23:26] <rex_> i need help
[23:26] <rex_> installing ubuntu server in vmware for ssh
[23:26] <rex_> i dont know how to install it as simple..
[23:26] <petrvs> rex_: as what?
[23:26] <rex_> for ssh
[23:26] <eshiffob> I have compiled Scilab 5.52 from source an Ubuntu 14.4. It compiles successfully, but I cannot run the binary. It gives me: /usr/local/bin/scilab-bin: error while loading shared libraries: libpcreposix.so.0: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory.
[23:26] <petrvs> blee: what're their names now?
[23:26] <eshiffob> I have compiled Scilab 5.52 from source an Ubuntu 14.4. It compiles successfully, but I cannot run the binary. It gives me: /usr/local/bin/scilab-bin: error while loading shared libraries: libpcreposix.so.0: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory".
[23:26] <rex_> its complicated
[23:26] <rex_> ubuntu desktop is easier
[23:27] <eshiffob> What do I do? I am a noob, so don't bite, please.
[23:27] <eshiffob> 5.5.2
[23:27] <talsamon> no answer to the zram-error ?
[23:27] <urvink__> petrvs: But nothing official from Google itself? They have promised the client some time ago NO?
[23:28] <petrvs> urvink__: did they? I'd not heard anything like that
[23:28] <rex_> Ay help?
[23:28] <petrvs> I'm sure their client would be inferior to a wholly open source derived one, anyway
[23:28] <rex_> petrvs:
[23:28] <eshiffob> Guys
[23:29] <rex_> ?
[23:29] <eshiffob> I have compiled Scilab 5.52 from source an Ubuntu 14.4. It compiles successfully, but I cannot run the binary. It gives me: /usr/local/bin/scilab-bin: error while loading shared libraries: libpcreposix.so.0: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory".
[23:29] <eshiffob> Any ideas?
[23:29] <urvink__> petrvs: Yea I believe so too, but the community have yet to get anything halfway decently working, if im not mistaken.
[23:29] <petrvs> eshiffob: use apt-file to see what package provides that
[23:29] <[n0mad]> grive works fine for me for google drive
[23:29] <petrvs> eshiffob: if it's on your system, make sure you've told scilib where to look for it
[23:29] <[n0mad]> not seen any issues
[23:29] <petrvs> eshiffob: or cheat and use a symlink
[23:30] <petrvs> yeah grive worked fine for me
[23:30] <petrvs> want to try https://github.com/astrada/google-drive-ocamlfuse sometime
[23:30] <petrvs> 'cause fuse is wonderfulness
[23:30] <rex_> petrvs:
[23:30] <petrvs> also we need one for google music, because that allows a lot more than a measly 15GB
[23:30] <petrvs> on the order of TB or PB, IIRC
[23:31] <rex_> boot loader is required?
[23:31] <eshiffob> petrvs Thank you. Doing it now ;p
[23:31] <EriC^^> XposWinU: hold on i'll give you a list in a min it's still counting but it's almost done i think
[23:31] <rex_> grub boot loader
[23:31] <petrvs> rex_: pretty much, yes
[23:31] <rex_> it shout me; install grub boot loaoder to the master boot record?
[23:31] <EriC^^> XposWinU: do you want it sorted by alphabetical order or user's joined?
[23:32] <petrvs> rex_: yup
[23:32] <netameta> Anyone knows how can you create a virtualBox instanse on ssd for ubuntu ?
[23:32] <petrvs> netameta: same as on any other disk
[23:33] <[n0mad]> dang, that reminds me i need to setup my virtualbox sometime
[23:33] <petrvs> or do you mean booting a bare-metal install from inside a VM?
[23:33] <cuddylier> Anyone know how I find the RPM of a drive if a smart test doesn't show it?
[23:34] <cuddylier> On some of my drives a smartr test shows it
[23:34] <petrvs> I wonder if lshw/hdparm/sdparm say
[23:34] <rex_> i dont know my localhost login
[23:34] <rex_> i fucked
[23:34] <nogoodnamesleft> i get "Missing parameter in configuration file. Keyword: path; gfxboot.c32: not a COM32R image" when using a vivid-64 live USB on a machine with BIOS instead of UEFI
[23:34] <rex_> Please help
[23:34] <petrvs> rex_: your what?
[23:34] <rex_> it login
[23:35] <petrvs> rex_: it what?
[23:35] <rex_> and i need details
[23:35] <rex_> in terminal
[23:35] <nogoodnamesleft> Ah you have to open the menu and use the menu to boot it. Tht's lame.
[23:35] <rex_> :(
[23:35] <rex_> im restarting
[23:35] <petrvs> rex_: what's it asking for?
[23:35] <rex_> user and pass
[23:35] <rex_> localhost :/
[23:35] <rex_> thats a server
[23:36] <rex_> probably dint setup it correct?
[23:36] <rex_> :(
[23:36] <rex_> i hate server
[23:37] <eshiffob> petrvs Still nothing
[23:37] <eshiffob> Where do I find this library?
[23:38] <rex_> u dont
[23:38] <Wug> rex_: localhost is the computer you're currently using.
[23:38] <Wug> you should be able to login to it with your own username and password
[23:38] <bazhang> rex_, thats not helpful
[23:38] <eshiffob> Then what do I do to start Scilab?
[23:38] <rex_> well
[23:38] <rex_> yes
[23:38] <rex_> im in vmware with ubuntu 64 bit
[23:39] <petrvs> eshiffob: apt-file
[23:39] <eshiffob> Finds nothing
[23:39] <petrvs> rex_: you can just accept almost all of the defaults
[23:39] <petrvs> rex_: moreso if you're using a VM, there is no risk
[23:39] <rex_> i will reinstall
[23:39] <rex_> it on start open a menu and i had to configure it :(
[23:40] <rex_> coudlnt find a tutorial in google
[23:40] <eshiffob> I did "sudo apt-file search libpcreposix.so" on it and it only finds "libpcre3: /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libpcreposix.so.3
[23:40] <eshiffob> libpcre3: /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libpcreposix.so.3.13.1
[23:40] <eshiffob> libpcre3-dbg: /usr/lib/debug/usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libpcreposix.so.3.13.1
[23:40] <eshiffob> libpcre3-dev: /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libpcreposix.so
[23:40] <eshiffob> "
[23:40] <[n0mad]> cuddylier: what about this cat /sys/class/block/sda/device/{model,vendor}
[23:40] <cuddylier> I found: hdparm -I /dev/sda | grep Rotation
[23:40] <[n0mad]> you may have to change the drive but then you have the model and can see. if you're trying to see what it performs at, then maybe something else
[23:40] <eshiffob> petrvs Ever faced the issue before?
[23:40] <rex_> he did
[23:41] <petrvs> eshiffob: sure
[23:41] <[n0mad]> oh, yeah that shows me what mine is
[23:41] <petrvs> eshiffob: try symlinking where it's looking to one of those
[23:42] <rex_> i have like execute a shell/ detect and mount cd room/ choose language
[23:42] <MichaelTiebesl> hi there, where to find the md5sum from iso 15.04?
[23:43] <MichaelTiebesl> sorry i got it:http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/daily-live/current/MD5SUMS
[23:43] <petrvs> =)
[23:44] <Umeaboy> I had to switch to a different mirror to see the release of Vivid.
[23:44] <Umeaboy> How come=
[23:44] <Umeaboy> ?
[23:45] <rex_> any idiea
[23:46] <cxdvty> Hey I need help someone. I upgraded to ubuntu 14.10 and now ubuntu wont boot. What do I do?
[23:46] <rex_> tell me abouut choose mirror
[23:46] <rex_> how do i know
[23:46] <Wug> rex_: to be honest, I'm having trouble understanding your issue
[23:46] <Wug> if you're doing an installation, most of the defaults are fine
[23:46] <rex_> iso-scan, fdisk-deb, download-installer, load installer components from cd
[23:47] <deadmund> cxdvty: Do you mean 15.10?
[23:47] <Wug> man what's with all these bots
[23:47] <deadmund> cxdvty: What happens when you try to boot? How far do you get? do you see any information?
[23:47] <skinux> Is Ubuntu Touch an over-lay to Linux or is it a linux derivative of it's own?
[23:47] <cxdvty> no just black screen
[23:48] <rex_> download-installer or choose mirror for install ?
[23:48] <cxdvty> and I had to go to 14.10 before I could get to 15.04
[23:48] <rex_> Wug:
[23:48] <Bashing-om> !nompdeset | cxdvty
[23:48] <cxdvty> what?
[23:48] <cxdvty> !vivid
[23:48] <Bashing-om> !nomodeset | cxdvty
[23:49] <petrvs> skinux: well, first
[23:49] <rex_> please "D
[23:49] <petrvs> skinux: you have to distinguish between Linux and GNU/Linux
[23:49] <deadmund> cxdvty: I agree, seems like a nomodeset problem
[23:49] <Wug> rex_: you're just choosing the default download location for package updates?
[23:49] <petrvs> skinux: IIRC Ubuntu Touch does consist of an actual GNU/Linux you can put on many phones & tablets
[23:50] <petrvs> skinux: see #ubuntu-touch
[23:50] <Wug> I haven't had to run the installer in a while and I don't know what version you're installing, so I have no idea what you're seeing
[23:50] <Wug> your vm has an internet connection right
[23:50] <krabador> !utopic
[23:51] <krabador> !trusty
[23:51] <blee> petrvs: they are br1, and bond0
[23:51] <krabador> !oneiric
[23:51] <blee> petrvs: you still there? sorry i was afk
[23:51] <cxdvty> How do i do this without reinstallation
[23:51] <petrvs> blee: sure, but I forgot the problem
[23:51] <krabador> !feisty
[23:51] <petrvs> cxdvty: do what, upgrade to 15.04?
[23:51] <blee> petrvs: multiple interfaces setup on my network/interfaces file
[23:52] <blee> petrvs: each one uses a different dns server
[23:52] <cxdvty> No the nomodset
[23:52] <blee> petrvs: to make it simple, lets just say 2 interfaces, "br1" and "bond0"
[23:52] <blee> how do i make resolvconf use one over the other?
[23:52] <petrvs> cxdvty: how to apply nomodeset?
[23:52] <petrvs> !nomodeset
[23:52] <cxdvty> I seen that
[23:53] <Bashing-om> cxdvty: If you can get the grub boot menu edit in "nomodeset" as a boot parameter per the link .
[23:53] <cxdvty> Can I do it without reinstall
[23:53] <Bashing-om> cxdvty: Yes, if you can get grub .
[23:54] <Pazooza> Why does Cryptkeeper 0.9.5 has such a hard time starting up in Ubuntu 14.04. Usually crashes the first time and have to start it 4 or 5 times before it starts.
[23:54] <epx998> Where is the grub.conf on ubuntu?
[23:55] <EriC^^> Pazooza: run it from the terminal and check for errors
[23:55] <EriC^^> epx998: /boot/grub/grub.cfg why?
[23:55] <petrvs> epx998: mostly the same place
[23:56] <epx998> EriC^^: need to reduce the phy mem on the server
[23:56] <EriC^^> epx998: you mean add bad memory locations?
[23:57] <epx998> EriC^^: I need to reduce how much phy mem is being used
[23:57] <EriC^^> epx998: ok, well anything you do in grub.cfg won't live across kernel updates and update-grub
[23:58] <EriC^^> epx998: you should edit /etc/default/grub or /etc/grub.d/
[23:58] <epx998> EriC^^: Yeah saw the comments in the file on that
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[05:05] <elopio> vila: it worked the second time I ran it.
[05:05] <elopio> the first time it gave an error about timing out waiting for login. Not sure what that's about.
[05:39] <vila> elopio: O_o you got a log or something ?
[05:39] * vila yawns
[13:19] <vila> elopio: did I mention that with the latest changes the same dep8 tests runs on the phone, the archive and -proposed ?
[13:20] <elopio> vila: \o/
[13:20] <vila> ^_^
[13:20] <elopio> so we are ready to get the MP reviewed by the dev, right?
[13:20] <vila> that's what I asked you in my last comment yes
[13:21] <vila> elopio: keep in mind that since those are new dep8 tests, they won't block promotion if they fail at first
[13:21] <vila> elopio: they will need to succeed at least once and *thne* they'll block ;)
[13:22] <elopio> oh, that's handy.
[13:22] <vila> kudos to jibel&pitti
[13:22] <elopio> vila: lets get a review from oSoMoN and pitti.
[13:22] <elopio> https://code.launchpad.net/~canonical-platform-qa/webbrowser-app/autopkgtest/+merge/256858
[13:22] <pitti> wut?
[13:23] <elopio> also, anybody else from ubuntu-qa who wants to chime in ^
[13:23] <pitti> oh yes, ISTR that it was mentioned on the ML, but after two sprint weeks I'm hopelessly behind in mails
[13:23] <elopio> pitti: it's a branch to run the browser autopilot tests as dep8.
[13:23] <vila> right, I'm not sure all the tricks I used are really... well, I'd be happy to have pitti's feedback on them indeed ;)
[13:23] <pitti> elopio: nice work!
[13:26] <elopio> pitti: well, lots of people involved to get this to work, with yourself first in the list :)
[13:27] * vila nods . o O (ubuntu-touch-sessioin)
[13:29] <brendand_> elopio, bing
[13:29] <brendand_> elopio, i chimed. nothing major
[13:29] <elopio> balloons: bong.
[13:29] <brendand_> oh boy balloons is going to be deeply confused
[13:30] <elopio> brendand_: agree with your comment.
[13:30] * balloons scratches head
[13:30] <elopio> and btw, now we are in a better shape to document this in a central place instead of the README.
[13:30] <elopio> do you have any recommendations for a good place in the wiki?
[13:31] <balloons> pitti, did alesage ping you about showing off adt as a demo session @ UOS?
[13:31] <balloons> elopio, a good place for ?
[13:31] <vila> elopio: by the way, you mentioned a login issue on first run ? Details ? Did you get logs for that ?
[13:34] * balloons suddenly feels the bong was for brendand_
[13:34] * balloons feels left out
[13:36] <brendand_> balloons, hey whoah man - i don't do drugs okay!
[13:38] <pitti> elopio, vila: reviewed the MP
[13:38] <pitti> balloons: no, not yet
[13:39] <balloons> pitti, we're soliciting folks to give cool demos, and alesage mentioned perhaps showing off adt would make a nice demo. It would be cool to see the different / novel ways it can be used
[13:40] <balloons> and/or if you have some other pitti created goodness to show off, feel free :-)
[13:40] <vila> pitti: ghaaaa, I tried set +a instead of set -a....
[13:40] <pitti> just boring boot stuff last cycle
[13:41] <pitti> so if anything there, I could demo some ways how to do boot speed and debug stuff now
[13:41] <elopio> balloons: good place to write the steps to run the dep8 tests and analyze the results.
[13:42] <balloons> pitti, ohh right.. I imagine the bootspeed chart and hackery has changed eh
[13:42] <vila> pitti: thanks for the review ;-D I stumble across many things and didn't mention them all (but some hints in the history), you found them all and then some \o/
[13:43] <vila> pitti: about needs-recommends, I wondered if python3-evdev should move to Depends in autopilot-touch ?
[13:44] <balloons> elopio, hmm.. we have a page on autpkgtest already, let me dig it up. It might make sense there
[13:44] <pitti> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/Testing#Running_tests_with_autopkgtest
[13:45] <pitti> http://packaging.ubuntu.com/html/auto-pkg-test.html
[13:45] <pitti> those are the two I'm aware of, aside from the docs that autopkgtest ships itself
[13:46] <vila> pitti: i.e. I thought using needs-recommends may install too much or something (will use it for now)
[13:50] <elopio> pitti: ahh, right. That's actually a good place to document about trv.
[13:50] <elopio> we should probably clean it up a little and push it to the archive.
[13:52] <balloons> elopio, yea pitti linked the page I was thinking of
[13:52] <balloons> and yea, upstream as well: http://anonscm.debian.org/cgit/autopkgtest/autopkgtest.git/tree/doc/README.package-tests.rst
[13:54] <pitti> jibel: http://d-jenkins.ubuntu-ci:8080/view/Vivid/view/AutoPkgTest/job/vivid-adt-libanyevent-cachedns-perl/
[13:56] <vila> pitti: ADT_NORMAL_USER is only set for setup-commands, not for tests (IIRC my late-night readings). Should it ?
[14:09] <pitti> vila: err yes, it absolutely should; it's not supposed to be set for setup-commands
[14:09] <pitti> (it might be, but not specified)
[14:10] <pitti> vila: oh sorry, you are right
[14:10] <pitti> I totally misremembered what this was for
[14:20] <vila> pitti: so, the next best choice after ADT_NORMAL_USER is USER or LOGNAME ?
[14:21] <pitti> vila: yes, the solution in the branch seems fine
[14:21] <vila> ack
[15:02] <elopio> vila: you might prefer the command line tool corey wrote.
[15:03] <elopio> https://github.com/cgoldberg/subunitdetails
[15:03] <vila> hmm
[15:04] <vila> I'm torn between my personal preferences and the greater good ;) Sounds like enhancing trv may benefit more people no ?
[15:06] <elopio> vila: yes. And trv should probably be a UI for that library.
[15:06] <elopio> vila: do you have a trace for that Mouse error?
[15:06] <elopio> I want to see where it decides it should create a Mouse instead of a Touch.
[15:06] <vila> elopio: yup, but in standup right now ;)
[15:07] <vila> elopio: ack, I'm re-running without needs-recommends to isolate
[15:40] <vila> elopio: so, one traceback is https://pastebin.canonical.com/130219/ but I've seen the message for tests that succeeded O_o
[15:41] <vila> elopio: I've push my latest change, if you use revision 978 you should be able to reproduce on a phone
[15:41] <vila> elopio: reverting needs-recommends fixes the issue
[15:42] <vila> pitti: ^ needs-recommends is too greedy, not fully diagnosed yet but it seems to install too much which probably confuse autopilot
[15:49] <pitti> vila: hm, that might be a problem in itself, but I guess you instaed just explicitly add the deps you need?
[15:50] <vila> pitti: yup, it's only python3-evdev at that point (you may have missed my previous question, let me re-paste)
pitti: about needs-recommends, I wondered if python3-evdev should move to Depends in autopilot-touch ?
[15:50] <pitti> vila: for -touch, I think yes
[15:51] <pitti> vila: recommends on such meta-packages are a bit pointless
[15:51] <vila> i.e. I'm unclear about what the package does but ... right will file a MP explaining my issue and see what the reviewers say ;)
[15:51] <vila> ha
[15:52] <vila> I'm also unclear about whether this meta-package is mentioned somewhere to get installed...
[15:52] <vila> pitti: why is this pointless ? (That may wait for next week if you don't have time to reply now ;)
[15:53] <pitti> vila: well, metapackages sohld install a group of packages that you need for this case, and make up its mind if it wants a recommended one or not
[15:53] <pitti> vila: but yeah, I suppose it's perfect bikeshedding material :)
[15:53] <pitti> vila: I think the more interesting issue is why ap3 breaks when you install all recommends
[15:54] <vila> pitti: yup, that's the one elopio wants to look at more closely
[15:54] <vila> elopio: correct ?
[15:55] <elopio> vila: yes. Now I'm wondering why on test end it's moving the mouse.
[15:55] <vila> it's in the way ?
[15:56] <vila> ;-D
[15:56] <elopio> I suppose this comes from earlier, it somehow instantiates the Mouse on setup and tries to clean it up.
[15:56] <elopio> I'll get a phone and debug.
[15:59] <vila> elopio: https://bugs.launchpad.net/autopilot/+bug/1447688
[16:01] <elopio> vila: I'm not yet sure how to define a dependency on autopilot-touch
[16:01] <elopio> we need to install autopilot-touch only if we are on the phone, bug debs can't depend on that, only on architecture, right?
[16:02] <elopio> how would we know if we have a touchscreen or not?
[16:04] <vila> yeah, it's unclear to me too, we may want to install it explicitly when we're not using ubuntu-touch-session (still hackish)
[16:05] <vila> It's a different axis, we use ubuntu-touch-session to setup a screen, not an input device
[16:06] <vila> I don't think it matters much for now but it's something to keep in mind
[17:24] <elopio> ubuntu-qa: meeting with balloons in 30 minutes to talk about docs for the test helpers.
[17:42] <jfunk> elopio: thx for highlighting that, I think everyone who participates in developing those should attend, likely everyone in projects-team no?
[17:43] <ki7mt> where is the meeting taking place ?
[17:43] <elopio> jfunk: also ops should be interested, as they can quickly write a high level test to reproduce an issue.
[17:44] <elopio> ki7mt: google hangouts.
[17:44] <elopio> ki7mt: I saw your email about wanting to write tests. Welcome, and please ping if you have questions.
[17:45] <ki7mt> elopio, thanks, I'm sure there will be many questions, but have a fare amount of reading to do first :-)
[17:48] <jfunk> ops-team ^
[17:49] <rvr> ops-team is really really busy with silos
[17:53] <davmor2> not a good week for meetings could be why jibel cancelled them all
[17:59] <nuclearbob> balloons: do you have a hangout link?
[18:01] <elopio> nuclearbob: https://plus.google.com/hangouts/_/canonical.com/leo-nicholas
[18:04] <balloons> isn't it now?
[18:04] <elopio> balloons: we are waiting for you.
[18:04] <balloons> yes, google hates m
[18:11] <elopio> now internet hates me, the hangout seems fine but I'm talking to myself
[18:11] <balloons> no worries, we'll wait
[18:19] <ki7mt> elopio, that's ok m8, I talk to myself all the time :-)
[18:34] <balloons> ki7mt, nice to see you here as well. You're going to enjoy test writing :-)
[19:23] <ki7mt> balloons, Hi, yes, I think so, will be a steep learning curve, but I like those sort of challenges.
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[00:47] <^k^> 取新帖 timeout
[00:55] <^k^> 新 初学者园地 - 14.10 • delete some packet by mistake, how to recover? http://forum.ubuntu.org.cn/viewtopic.php?t=469723 下列软件包是自动安装的并且现在不需要了： app-install-data aptdaemon-data dc gedit-common gir1.2-atspi-2.0 gir1.2-dbusmenu-glib-0.4 gir1.2-dee-1.0 gir1.2-gconf-2.0 gir1.2-gnomekeyring-1.0 gir1.2-gst-plugins-base-1.0 gir1.2-gstre
[00:55] <^k^> ─> amer-1.0 gir1.2-gtk-3.0 gir1.2-gtksource-3.0 gir1.2-gudev-1.0 gir1.2-javascriptcoregtk-3.0 gir1.2-notify-0.7 gir1.2-p …
[01:07] <^k^> 新 笔记本、UMPC支持 • 推荐一个能够装载在上网本上的版本呗 http://forum.ubuntu.org.cn/viewtopic.php?t=469724 以前用过linux的不同发行版，fedora15，ubuntu12.04,debian7.0，现在已经不大了解了，想找一个版本学习一下linux c，但是只有一个上网本，配置很低，各路大神推荐一个版本呗 zz: xkz1986 — 2015-
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[02:05] <^k^> 新 新闻和通知 • AMD或将发布AMD GPU新Linux显示驱动 http://forum.ubuntu.org.cn/viewtopic.php?t=469727 来源：中关村在线 根据最新消息，Linux有望迎来最新的显示驱动的更新。AMD开发者今年早些时候在游戏开发者大会上透露正在开发的新Linux驱动模式：Linux驱动仍然会分为开源驱动（Gallium3D）和闭源
[02:05] <^k^> ─> 驱动（催化剂），但催化剂驱动将会是驱动的一部分，将会孤立在用户空间，而位于内核 …
[02:12] <BuMangHuo> cherrot: git 问题还是妥妥的等 adam 吧
[02:17] <MSErgo4K> 啥问题?
[02:17] <MSErgo4K> 你说下
[02:17] <yunfan> BuMangHuo: 这种小问题就让下面的处理吧
[02:18] <MSErgo4K> cherrot: 对啊, yunfan 就能帮你解决
[02:18] * MSErgo4K 奶奶的, 早上翻墙看视频能流畅看4K, 晚上只能480p...
[02:19] <yunfan> MSErgo4K: 我正想对她说 让她给你一个机会呢
[02:19] <yunfan> 480p不就行了
[02:19] <MSErgo4K> yunfan: 不用了, 这种小问题, 你就可以了
[02:20] <MSErgo4K> yunfan: 480p的声音压缩也多, 失真太多.
[02:21] <relaed> 翻墙看视频4K是什么情况
[02:24] <yunfan> MSErgo4K: 我觉得主要是你
[02:24] <MSErgo4K> yunfan: o
[02:24] <yunfan> relaed: 最近泡教堂妹了 ？
[02:25] <yunfan> MSErgo4K: 再说了 公司可是paid for you的
[02:25] <MSErgo4K> yunfan: 你公司不给你发钱?
[02:25] <yunfan> MSErgo4K: 我公司可没给arch发钱啊 这里是arch官方嘛
[02:26] <freeflying> MSErgo4K: 喷妹今天还没来啊
[02:27] <jusss> hoxily: sys.exit() os._exit()没法退出程序怎么办
[02:28] <hoxily> jusss: 怎么可能
[02:29] <yunfan> jusss: kill -9
[02:30] <yunfan> hoxily: 有可能别人注册了at exit钩子卡在那
[02:30] <MSErgo4K> yunfan: 我公司也没给arch发钱啊
[02:30] <MSErgo4K> yunfan: 谁?
[02:31] <yunfan> MSErgo4K: 你司不是c记么
[02:31] <MSErgo4K> yunfan: 是啊.
[02:31] <yunfan> MSErgo4K: c记不是这个频道的大金主嘛
[02:31] <MSErgo4K> yunfan: 不是, suse才是.
[02:31] <MSErgo4K> 你连这个都不知道????
[02:31] <yunfan> 你身为c记拿钱员工 当然得回答这频道里得问题了
[02:31] <yunfan> MSErgo4K: 毛 是c记
[02:32] <MSErgo4K> yunfan: 呵呵, 这是suse的建立的一个叫做ubuntu的arch频道, 你连这都不知道还怎么混?
[02:32] <MSErgo4K> yunfan: 你看看这个频道最大的大管理员是谁再说
[02:33] <yunfan> MSErgo4K: 那有什么 人都是会变得嘛
[02:33] <MSErgo4K> yunfan: 变了再说
[02:33] <yunfan> MSErgo4K:要不是c记赞助 为何c记获得了冠名权？ 你看连产品都打广告打到频道名上了 （尽管这是arch得）
[02:34] <MSErgo4K> yunfan: 你这只是猜测, 有证据再说
[02:35] <yunfan> MSErgo4K: 冠名权这个就是证据 有哪个大活动不是这样得 都是出钱多得冠名嘛
[02:36] <MSErgo4K> yunfan: 你怎么知道给钱了?
[02:36] <MSErgo4K> yunfan: 你得有证据啊
[02:36] <yunfan> MSErgo4K: 这个就是最大得证据
[02:36] <MSErgo4K> yunfan: 拿出合同和交易的收据和税单来
[02:38] <yunfan> MSErgo4K: 1， 我这不是在法院 不需要我拿 2 你也不是法官 就算要我拿也不是拿给你看
[02:39] <MSErgo4K> yunfan: 你没有呗
[02:39] <jusss> hoxily: http://paste.ubuntu.com/10869210/
[02:39] <BuMangHuo> 色兔子呢
[02:40] <yunfan> MSErgo4K: 我干嘛要有
[02:40] <MSErgo4K> yunfan: 你非要说这个频道是C家投资的啊
[02:40] <MSErgo4K> BuMangHuo: 色兔的那个动图你看过没?
[02:42] <yunfan> MSErgo4K: 我就要这么说你能怎样？
[02:42] <MSErgo4K> yunfan: 我今天心情好, 自然不能把你怎么样
[02:42] <yunfan> 有本事你叫arch得人来说
[02:42] <jusss> hoxily: os._exit()和sys.exit()就是退出不了
[02:42] <yunfan> MSErgo4K: 现在我有自己得频道 无所谓哈
[02:43] <hoxily> mail-notify-1.py 贴一下
[02:43] <MSErgo4K> yunfan: 那频道还活着呢?
[02:44] <yunfan> MSErgo4K: 嗯哼 而且有人
[02:44] <MSErgo4K> yunfan: 真棒
[02:44] <yunfan> MSErgo4K: 不是真得难道是假的？
[02:45] <O0XX|Qiong> yunfan: 赞, 能把一个频道有人 作为 活着的炫耀资本, 那频道想必一定
[02:45] <O0XX|Qiong> 是极好的
[02:45] <MSErgo4K> yunfan: 谁怀疑真假了. 我说真棒, 是在夸你啊
[02:45] <^k^> 取新帖 timeout
[02:45] <yunfan> O0XX|Qiong: 你也可以去捧场哈 #linuxcn
[02:45] <yunfan> MSErgo4K: 我是说棒
[02:50] <O0XX|Qiong> MSErgo4K: http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/3/31/Neorthacris_at_Nayikayam_Thattu.jpg/600px-Neorthacris_at_Nayikayam_Thattu.jpg
[02:50] <O0XX|Qiong> MSErgo4K: 你猜他们在干什么?
[02:50] <MSErgo4K> O0XX|Qiong: 睡觉
[02:53] <BuMangHuo> MSErgo4K: 没有看啊还
[02:53] <MSErgo4K> BuMangHuo: 看啥?
[02:54] <hoxily> jusss: 贴一下 mail-notify-1.py
[02:55] <BuMangHuo> MSErgo4K: 你说的动图啊
[02:55] <MSErgo4K> BuMangHuo: 哦, 等我一会儿给你找.
[02:55] <MSErgo4K> BuMangHuo: b里有毒那张图
[02:57] <yunfan> 有没有什么刷机神器的手机？ 我记得以前有个什么手机各种系统都可以刷入 好像是htc的
[02:59] <hoxily> jusss: 贴一下 mail-notify-1.py
[03:01] <MSErgo4K> yunfan: HTC HD2
[03:01] <yunfan> MSErgo4K: 是的 不过他不支持4G 所以我想知道新的神器是哪家
[03:04] <pocmon> 新出的神器应该是INTEL家的了吧
[03:04] <pocmon> 现在不是有双系统平板吗？都是INTEL家
[03:06] <yunfan> intel的最近市场上好多几百块的
[03:07] <pocmon> 而且要等win10phone出来，成气候，不然，你用什么神？只用安卓神！
[03:08] <MSErgo4K> O0XX|Qiong: http://www.zhihu.com/question/22623367 这个钓鱼提问挺不错的
[03:08] <^k^> MSErgo4K: ⇪ 什么样的水手服最好看？ - 生活 - 知乎
[03:09] <gfxmode> MSErgo4K: 水手服看起来像是监狱兔穿的
[03:10] <O0XX|Qiong> MSErgo4K: 这不就是校服?
[03:14] <MSErgo4K> gfxmode: 不像....
[03:14] <MSErgo4K> O0XX|Qiong: 是校服啊, 不过我们学校没有....
[03:14] <MSErgo4K> happyaron: 小DD
[03:14] <MSErgo4K> happyaron: 我输入没有, 总是出来美柚...
[03:14] <MSErgo4K> happyaron: 快修修修
[03:15] <MSErgo4K> BuMangHuo: http://www.mgpyh.com/recommend/326161963/
[03:15] <^k^> MSErgo4K: ⇪ Osprey Packs Nano Port 城市单肩包 $23.21 MGPYH 买个便宜货
[03:15] <MSErgo4K> BuMangHuo: 买买买, 好便宜
[03:16] <BuMangHuo> MSErgo4K: 红色此价
[03:16] <MSErgo4K> BuMangHuo: 对啊
[03:16] <BuMangHuo> cherrot: 兔子，请教个 css 问题
[03:16] <MSErgo4K> BuMangHuo: 140块钱啊
[03:17] <BuMangHuo> 丫又跑了？
[03:17] <O0XX|Qiong> cherrot: 干得漂亮
[03:17] <MSErgo4K> cherrot: 干得漂亮
[03:20] <yunfan> MSErgo4K: 为什么是鸟语文 '
[03:20] <MSErgo4K> yunfan: ??
[03:32] <yunfan> MSErgo4K: 为什么是钓鱼文
[03:33] <yunfan> 这该死的水果输入法
[03:33] <MSErgo4K> yunfan: 因为我觉得它是.
[03:37] <HowIsItGoing> BuMangHuo: owrt的启动脚本熟悉嘛？
[03:37] * HowIsItGoing 擦，遇到个owrt的bug，不知道咋调
[03:40] <yunfan> MSErgo4K: 钓女孩子出来show水手服 ？
[03:44] <roylez_> yunfan: 胡子豪，有好事不？
[03:52] <yunfan> roylez: 最近没有 你想要啥好事 要不你去频道 我在搞op大放送
[03:53] <roylez> yunfan: 可以...不过我忘了怎么用这脑残的 weechat 自动加频道了
[03:54] <yunfan> roylez: 弄到配置文件里
[03:55] <roylez> yunfan: 不会。weechat的配置一坨屎
[03:55] <yunfan> 不过 weechat不需要手动改配置 你在运行期间修改的配置 结束前会自动同步到文件里
[03:58] <O0XX> roylez: duiduidui
[04:01] <yunfan> nyfair: 你怎么每次都要进出放个ip以后才进来
[04:09] * yunfan cyq.me
[04:13] <jusss> nyfair: 刚看完杀与艹之歌第一季,还不错呀,就是人少点,衣服破点,房子矮点,其它的还可以呀
[04:13] <jusss> 跟我大天朝的宫廷据根本没法比呀
[04:26] <sennn> hi all
[04:26] <^k^> sennn:点点点. 12:26
[04:27] <BuMangHuo> test
[04:27] <^k^> BuMangHuo:点点点. 12:27
[04:27] <BuMangHuo> HowIsItGoing: 不熟悉啊
[04:28] <BuMangHuo> MSErgo4K: 刚才啥情况 O0XX
[04:28] <O0XX> BuMangHuo: sha ?
[04:28] <MSErgo4K> bu
[04:28] <BuMangHuo> O0XX: 为啥你们能给 cherrot 发消息
[04:28] <MSErgo4K> BuMangHuo: 怎么了?
[04:28] <O0XX> BuMangHuo: 哈哈, 你猜
[04:28] <BuMangHuo> cherrot: 干的漂亮？
[04:28] <MSErgo4K> BuMangHuo: 他ignore你了吧?
[04:29] <BuMangHuo> MSErgo4K: ignore 了，跟补全 nick 有关系？
[04:29] <hoxily> jusss: 贴一下 mail-notify-1.py 吧
[04:29] <BuMangHuo> MSErgo4K: 而且也不至于问个 css 的问题就 ignore 啊
[04:30] <BuMangHuo> css 怎么能让 body 的内容垂直居中的，搜到的都不管用啊
[04:32] <yunfan> BuMangHuo: 什么是垂直居中
[04:33] <BuMangHuo> yunfan: 就是在页面的中间
[04:34] <yunfan> BuMangHuo: body {border: 2px dashed red; width: 960px; margin: 10px auto;}
[04:35] <BuMangHuo> yunfan: auto 不起作用呢
[04:35] <BuMangHuo> 或者就是我设置的位置不对
[04:35] <yunfan> BuMangHuo: 在body下加个 div id="container" 然后设置这个好了
[04:36] <MSErgo4K> BuMangHuo: lol~
[04:36] <BuMangHuo> yunfan: 我用 pacdoc 吧 markdown 转成 slides, 用的 https://github.com/paulrouget/dzslides 这个模板，然后比如一屏幕的内容不满的话我想让它居中显示，而不是上对齐
[04:36] <^k^> ⇪ ti: paulrouget/dzslides · GitHub
[04:38] <yunfan> BuMangHuo: 给一个最终页面我访问下
[04:38] <BuMangHuo> http://picpaste.com/scrot-piNkKtQu.png 就像这样 cc yunfan
[04:39] <BuMangHuo> yunfan: http://picpaste.com/scrot-hcTWjJuL.png
[04:39] <BuMangHuo> yunfan: 我想要的结果是下面这样
[04:40] <yunfan> BuMangHuo: 我要你给我一个能访问的html页面 就是你当前的上对齐的 我才好测试
[04:42] <yunfan> 原来是在垂直方向居中 拿换成 margin: auto 10px; 看看
[04:42] <BuMangHuo> yunfan: 稍等啊
[04:43] <BuMangHuo> yunfan: html 代码是这样的 http://paste.ubuntu.org.cn/2561365
[04:43] <BuMangHuo> 是不是不应该改 body
[04:44] <yunfan> 就这点？ 没有完整的？
[04:44] <BuMangHuo> yunfan: 完整的有些其他内容
[04:45] <BuMangHuo> 稍等
[04:45] <yunfan> 我都跟你说了两次了 要能访问的html页面
[04:45] <yunfan> 再不如愿我要出门了
[04:48] <BuMangHuo> yunfan: 等一下啊
[04:49] <BuMangHuo> yunfan: 给
[04:49] <BuMangHuo> yunfan: http://paste.ubuntu.org.cn/2561368
[04:49] <BuMangHuo> yunfan: 保存成 html 就得，就单个页面
[04:50] <^k^> 新 Ubuntu 15.04 • ACPI PCC probe failed. http://forum.ubuntu.org.cn/viewtopic.php?t=469729 14.10升级15.04，开机显示这个，systemd219.然后显示一堆USB不正常。最后正常启动。 zz: 月下叹逍遥 — 2015-04-23 12:49
[04:51] <BuMangHuo> yunfan: 那个四级标题下面的正文只有一行，或者就是不满一屏幕，怎么设置 style 能让这种情况下，内容显示在屏幕中间
[04:51] * BuMangHuo 求 css 大神帮忙
[04:52] <yunfan> BuMangHuo: 你现在就是显示在正中间的
[04:52] <BuMangHuo> yunfan: 不是啊
[04:52] <BuMangHuo> yunfan: 我用的 chrome
[04:53] <BuMangHuo> yunfan: 你的浏览器显示什么效果？ 帮忙截图一下？
[04:54] <BuMangHuo> 哦，明白了， 这个正文是 p 不是 body？
[04:56] <yunfan> BuMangHuo: 不是 这个正文每一屏是section
[04:56] <yunfan> 不过我发现对 section作margin: auto 10px还是不行 可能垂直方向有点困难
[04:57] <yunfan> 不过也有可能是float搞得鬼
[04:57] <BuMangHuo> yunfan: 我就想让 四级标题下的正文 这几个字在页面垂直方向的中间
[04:59] <yunfan> 果然有许多float 这个我搞不定 出门
[05:00] <BuMangHuo> ...
[05:01] <BuMangHuo> class="slide level2"
[05:07] <yunfan> 我估计还得用js插件作
[05:16] <QiongMangHuo> happyaron: 原谅grub-pc-bin和grub-efi-amd64-bin这俩可以共存, 我误解grub2了
[05:16] <QiongMangHuo> 原来
[05:19] <BuMangHuo> test
[05:19] <^k^> BuMangHuo:点点点. 13:18
[05:19] <BuMangHuo> QiongMangHuo: 当当当
[05:19] <pocmon> 不如在WORD里编辑好了，存成HTML
[05:20] <yunfan> pocmon: 不如存成jpeg?
[05:20] <pocmon> yunfan: 也行，其后OCR哈
[05:23] <yunfan> pocmon: 是给人看得 根本不需要ocr 每个人都内置ocr
[05:23] <nyfair> pacman超好用，archlinux果然是windows不可分割的一部分
[05:28] <QiongMangHuo> BuMangHuo: 乖
[05:29] <BuMangHuo> QiongMangHuo: 对了，你怎么输入 tab 的？
[05:29] <BuMangHuo> C-q tab 也不好使
[05:29] <QiongMangHuo> BuMangHuo: C-v Tab
[05:29] <nyfair> 诸君，问个问题
[05:29] <nyfair> vim这傻逼编辑器怎么不保存退出
[05:30] <BuMangHuo> 额，我把 C-v 给绑定成 imap <C-v> <Esc>"*p 了...
[05:30] <QiongMangHuo> nyfair: :q!
[05:30] <mugebjgd> nyfair, 你果然是妹子
[05:30] <nyfair> QiongMangHuo: 试过了，没用，提示press enter to continue，然后又滚回vim界面了
[05:30] <nyfair> mugebjgd: 哦
[05:31] <mugebjgd> nyfair, 好 我来口你
[05:31] <QiongMangHuo> nyfair: :cq!
[05:31] <nyfair> QiongMangHuo: 赞老司机
[05:31] <nyfair> mugebjgd: 妹子，约么
[05:32] <O0XX> nyfair: sswmby
[05:32] <mugebjgd> nyfair, 约
[05:33] <mugebjgd> 毛 wine gta3都起不来
[05:34] <mugebjgd> 上班去
[05:34] <nyfair> mugebjgd: 大胸鸟的gta5不能玩？
[05:37] <QiongMangHuo> MSErgo4K: 怀疑是紧急避孕药
[05:37] <MSErgo4K> QiongMangHuo: 你还用怀疑? 你直接就知道吧?
[05:38] <pengzhimou> liuhangbin, ping
[05:39] <liuhangbin> pengzhimou: pong
[05:39] <pengzhimou> liuhangbin, 你的qq多少。。。
[05:39] <liuhangbin> pengzhimou: 我QQ N年没用了……有啥事你直接发吧，或者微信？
[05:39] <pengzhimou> liuhangbin, 那电话给我吧。。。
[05:40] <pengzhimou> liuhangbin, 咨询点事儿~
[05:40] <QiongMangHuo> pengzhimou: 138, 后头随便打
[05:40] <O0XX> pengzhimou: 110 后面随便打
[05:40] <O0XX> pengzhimou: 内部号码
[05:40] <pengzhimou> QiongMangHuo, 你妹
[05:40] <QiongMangHuo> O0XX: 赞
[05:40] <BuMangHuo> momo O0XX
[05:40] * O0XX momo BuMangHuo
[05:41] <nyfair> gta没可能wine不起来啊，wine不起来的是那个狗屎正版验证starforce吧
[05:41] <nyfair> gta3
[05:41] <nyfair> 下个starforce通用去壳就行了
[05:47] <MSErgo4K> 又降利息了???
[05:48] <QiongMangHuo> MSErgo4K: ?
[05:49] <MSErgo4K> QiongMangHuo: 看错了, 不是降息, 是降准
[05:53] <cherrot> MSErgo4K, 啥区别
[05:54] <nyfair> QiongMangHuo: 好无聊啊，最近有没有能吵架的帖子
[05:55] <BuMangHuo> cherrot: 还跑
[05:56] <cherrot> BuMangHuo, 啥？
[05:56] <BuMangHuo> cherrot: 求帮忙解答 css 问题
[05:56] <cherrot> BuMangHuo, 不会 w3school
[05:56] <BuMangHuo> cherrot: http://paste.ubuntu.org.cn/2561368
[05:57] <^k^> 新 初学者园地 - 14.10 • Ubuntu14.10循环登录 http://forum.ubuntu.org.cn/viewtopic.php?t=469730 情况为Ubuntu安装在移动硬盘上，启动出现 /错误检查，按了自动修复，然后就不去系统了 通过百度试验了好多办法都没用，现在的情况为： zz: 烈焰火凤 — 2015-04-23 13:56
[05:57] <BuMangHuo> cherrot: 这个页面，我想让每一页都垂直居中，怎么改那个 css 呢
[05:57] <cherrot> 每一页都用一个class不就成了
[05:57] <BuMangHuo> cherrot: 这是 pandoc 自动生成的嘛
[05:58] <nyfair> pandoc...，你还玩haskell?
[05:58] <BuMangHuo> nyfair: 没有，就是做个 slides
[05:58] <MSErgo4K> cherrot: 不知道啊.
[05:58] <MSErgo4K> cherrot: 啥区别?
[05:58] <cherrot> MSErgo4K, 不知道 总之没钱
[05:58] <MSErgo4K> O0XX: 电信通跟京宽宽带是一家的?
[05:58] <nyfair> 年轻人放着大好时光不用，写tex这种反人类的东西干嘛
[05:59] <O0XX> MSErgo4K: 电信通又是什么通?
[05:59] <MSErgo4K> O0XX: http://www.kd0086.com/article/20121207135802.html
[05:59] <^k^> MSErgo4K: ⇪ 北京电信通（京宽）宽带政府采购价格 - 北京电信通
[05:59] <BuMangHuo> nyfair: 不是 tex 啊
[05:59] <BuMangHuo> nyfair: pandoc 能吧 markdown 转成 html 的 sildes
[05:59] <BuMangHuo> li
[06:00] <nyfair> 啊，我搞混了
[06:00] <BuMangHuo> 不过我不会 css ，不知道怎么改这个模板，让不满一屏幕的页面都居中
[06:02] <MSErgo4K> O0XX: mobi是个毛毛后缀?
[06:02] <O0XX> MSErgo4K: mobile
[06:03] <MSErgo4K> O0XX: 看起来很像盗版电子书....
[06:03] <MSErgo4K> O0XX: http://www.kuandai.mobi/project6.htm
[06:03] <^k^> MSErgo4K: ⇪ 专线接入-北京宽带_京宽网络_北京北宽信息工程有限公司
[06:03] <MSErgo4K> O0XX: 一个大公司用这个后缀真是....
[06:04] <jiero> QiongMangHuo, 今天发现现在的西瓜全不结实
[06:04] <jiero> QiongMangHuo, 我可以轻松手劈。。。
[06:05] <^k^> 取新帖 timeout
[06:06] <MSErgo4K> jiero: 榴莲呢?
[06:06] <jiero> MSErgo4K, 那么软，不舍得砸烂了
[06:07] <jiero> MSErgo4K, 你知道，剥去西瓜皮再劈是多么麻烦的过程
[06:07] <jiero> MSErgo4K 笑了吗？
[06:10] <MSErgo4K> jiero: 笑????
[06:11] <jiero> MSErgo4K, 算了。。。我钻地缝去
[06:11] <jiero> MSErgo4K, 壕，你需要这个硬盘吗？ http://news.smzdm.com/p/12265
[06:11] <^k^> jiero: ⇪ 读写高达1.4GB/s和1.0GB/s：金士顿 HyperX Predator PCI-E SSD 国行开卖_新品_资讯中心_什么值得买
[06:11] <MSErgo4K> jiero: 需要, 你送我?
[06:12] <jiero> MSErgo4K, 壕，你借我10万吗？我去炒股赚了钱给你买。
[06:12] <jiero> lol
[06:12] <MSErgo4K> jiero: 我都没10w
[06:13] <lishang> 求救
[06:13] <O0XX> jiero: 这种事情问 QiongMangHuo 老板啊
[06:14] <lishang> 我系统的语言不知道被那个混蛋设置成英文的了 导致菜单都是英文的 （LANGUAGE=zh:en ） 求解决方案
[06:14] <lishang> 怎么找是那个启动程序修改的
[06:14] <lishang> 哪位高手指点
[06:14] <MSErgo4K> lishang: 没办法找到是谁改的. 除非你自己记得自己做过什么.
[06:15] <MSErgo4K> lishang: 但是你可以手动设置成中文.
[06:15] <lishang> 那怎么能改回来啊 应该把export放到哪里比较合适啊
[06:15] <lishang> 怎么改啊 求解答
[06:16] <MSErgo4K> lishang: 放在env里面吧. 为什么你不用图形工具来修改呢?
[06:16] <MSErgo4K> lishang: 你用的是ubuntu? 哪个版本?
[06:17] <lishang> MSErgo4K: 14.1 不过我装的kde的桌面
[06:17] <jiero> Destine, 我在想为什么有菠萝饭没有西瓜饭？
[06:17] <lishang> /etc/environment我试过了 没起作用
[06:17] <MSErgo4K> lishang: 用kde那就咎由自取了.
[06:17] <MSErgo4K> lishang: kde的setting里面不能设置语言??
[06:18] <lishang> ：-（
[06:18] <lishang> 都是中文的啊 找了好几遍了
[06:18] <Destine> jiero, 因为菠萝相对质地坚硬适合烹饪。
[06:19] <MSErgo4K> lishang: 你现在的locale贴到paste上给看看
[06:19] <jiero> Destine, 西瓜也不软多少啊。
[06:19] <lishang> LANG=zh_CN.UTF-8
[06:19] <lishang> LANGUAGE=zh:en
[06:19] <lishang> LC_CTYPE="zh_CN.UTF-8"
[06:19] <lishang> LC_NUMERIC=zh_CN.UTF-8
[06:19] <lishang> LC_TIME=zh_CN.UTF-8
[06:19] <lishang> LC_COLLATE="zh_CN.UTF-8"
[06:19] <lishang> LC_MONETARY=zh_CN.UTF-8
[06:19] <^k^> lishang:. .., 别刷屏，超过6行 大段文字 请贴至paste.ubuntu.com +q 23s
[06:19] <MSErgo4K> ....
[06:20] <MSErgo4K> lishang: 真的有zh:en这种写法?????????
[06:20] <MSErgo4K> lishang: 你自己看着不别扭吗?
[06:20] <jiero> lishang, 。。。
[06:20] * jiero 看笑话
[06:20] <Destine> jiero, 烹饪以后就不一样了。
[06:21] <lishang> 不知道啊 非常别扭所以来找大神帮忙啊
[06:21] <MSErgo4K> lishang: 改成 zh_CN.UTF-8啊
[06:21] <jiero> lishang, 直接抄别的不好？
[06:21] <MSErgo4K> lishang: 你zh:en闹哪样
[06:21] <jiero> Destine, 恩。试玩西瓜去。
[06:24] <Destine> jiero, 别把手弄伤了。
[06:24] <lishang> http://paste.ubuntu.com/10869851/
[06:25] <jiero> Destine, 。。。现在的西瓜练九阴白骨爪都不行了。不够结实。
[06:25] <MSErgo4K> lishang: 因为你有后续的地方又改了这个了.
[06:25] <lishang> 我猜测也是 不过后续在那呢？
[06:26] <MSErgo4K> lishang: environment? profile? 谁知道
[06:27] <jiero> lishang, 你自己在哪里设置的，自己查去
[06:27] <jiero> lishang, 看了什么乱七八遭教程。。。
[06:27] <lishang> jiero: 你闭嘴 少掺和
[06:28] * IsoaSFlus 下午好~
[06:28] * jiero 闭嘴
[06:28] <IsoaSFlus> (#ﾟДﾟ)
[06:28] <lishang> jiero: 不给帮忙出点子 光在这里添乱
[06:28] <IsoaSFlus> 怎……怎么了……
[06:28] <jiero> IsoaSFlus, 没啥
[06:30] <IsoaSFlus> 话说15.04今天什么时候出？我指东八区
[06:32] <cherrot> cc happyaron
[06:33] <MSErgo4K> IsoaSFlus: 看上去还没出: http://releases.ubuntu.com/15.04/
[06:33] <^k^> ⇪ ti: Ubuntu 15.04 (Vivid Vervet) Beta 2
[06:36] <QiongMangHuo> MSErgo4K: 出了 在.pool里
[06:36] <jiero> IsoaSFlus, 哦。今天要出了啊。可是还在不停的更新 你们怎么搞得 MSErgo4K
[06:36] <QiongMangHuo> MSErgo4K: 等全球同步
[06:37] <jiero> QiongMangHuo, 我今天还在更新。。。
[06:37] <jiero> QiongMangHuo, 你说，是不是比 14.04 稳定啊啊。
[06:37] <QiongMangHuo> jiero: 不知道 我都不用
[06:38] <jiero> QiongMangHuo, 到那里都宠着你。
[06:38] <QiongMangHuo> MSErgo4K: 53c869eba8686007239a650d903847fd *ubuntu-15.04-desktop-amd64.iso
[06:39] <MSErgo4K> QiongMangHuo: 哟, 都出来了
[06:39] <MSErgo4K> QiongMangHuo: 出来了我也不用!
[06:39] <QiongMangHuo> MSErgo4K: 还没挪到可见目录而已
[06:39] * yunfan gas的手册真挫
[06:39] <MSErgo4K> QiongMangHuo: 昂.
[06:39] <QiongMangHuo> MSErgo4K: 下载太慢 我就算了
[06:39] <yunfan> QiongMangHuo: 你现在用的什么智能机
[06:39] <MSErgo4K> QiongMangHuo: 不过应该升级过去, 毕竟是systemd了
[06:39] <QiongMangHuo> yunfan: Meizu MX4
[06:39] <IsoaSFlus> jiero: 希望比1410稳定
[06:40] <yunfan> QiongMangHuo: 刷着ubuntu?
[06:40] <QiongMangHuo> MSErgo4K: 升级的话不变init, 重装才变, 好像
[06:40] <QiongMangHuo> yunfan: 当然没有
[06:40] <MSErgo4K> QiongMangHuo: 那就重装.
[06:40] <jiero> yunfan, c家的人自己都不用，所以还是微软利害
[06:41] <yunfan> QiongMangHuo: 为毛不支持下
[06:41] <QiongMangHuo> yunfan: 没钱
[06:41] <jiero> QiongMangHuo, 。。。要钱的？
[06:41] <yunfan> QiongMangHuo: 不是说mx4可以刷 ？ 这个跟钱有啥关系
[06:41] <jiero> QiongMangHuo, 一个使用名额要多少钱？
[06:41] <QiongMangHuo> yunfan: 没钱买第二台MX4
[06:42] <yunfan> QiongMangHuo: 就用手头这个就是了
[06:42] <jiero> QiongMangHuo 你真打算在北京买房了？
[06:42] <QiongMangHuo> jiero: 有资格的话现在就想买 可惜明年才有资格
[06:42] <IsoaSFlus> 有钱
[06:43] <jiero> QiongMangHuo, 你确实没钱了。
[06:43] <O0XX> QiongMangHuo: 壕
[06:43] <yunfan> QiongMangHuo: 你手头那个不能刷嘛 直接拿去让同事给刷上多好
[06:44] <yunfan> jiero: 阿蛋以前在红帽也不用红帽的系统
[06:44] <jiero> yunfan, 你可以送 QiongMangHuo 一个老android手机，然后让他刷
[06:44] <jiero> yunfan, 反正你一堆
[06:44] <yunfan> 可惜我是不做发行版这块 要不然请我去多好 我可是老用户
[06:44] <yunfan> jiero: 做梦 他们机器比我多
[06:44] <jiero> yunfan, 除了 QiongMangHuo
[06:45] <jiero> yunfan, 我相信 QiongMangHuo 真穷，要攥着钱不撒，所以日常真的穷
[06:45] <QiongMangHuo> yunfan: 我的刷了我用啥啊
[06:46] <BuMangHuo> test
[06:46] <^k^> BuMangHuo:点点点. 14:45
[06:47] <yunfan> jiero: 你听他胡说 他是最近股市热 把钱都投进去赚大钱了 周转不过来而已
[06:47] <yunfan> QiongMangHuo: 你门家的系统难道现在不能用
[06:47] <jiero> yunfan, 一样啊。
[06:47] <jiero> yunfan, 你不把家当变卖了去炒股？
[06:48] <yunfan> jiero: 我不是那种人 你看 比我有钱的人还比我努力(赚钱) cc QiongMangHuo
[06:50] <jiero> yunfan, 不管怎么说阿当要买房娶妻了，祝贺他。
[06:51] <yunfan> jiero: 要不连娃娃满月也一并祝贺了吧
[06:52] <jiero> yunfan, 祝你娃娃满月
[06:52] <kandu> QiongMangHuo: 帽帽那儿，你见到的日常用得最多的发行版是？
[06:52] <QiongMangHuo> kandu: Fedora, 因为很多内部工具方便用
[06:53] <jiero> QiongMangHuo, c家呢
[06:53] <kandu> QiongMangHuo: 哦。那你用 debian 是属于依赖那些工具比较少的那类人了
[06:53] <QiongMangHuo> jiero: Ubuntu, 因为pbuilder方便用
[06:53] <QiongMangHuo> kandu: 我在rh时也用Fedora, 笔记本debian而已
[06:54] <kandu> QiongMangHuo: 帽帽的内核真是好。3.10 的特性到 backport 到 2.6
[06:54] <QiongMangHuo> kandu: 就是吃这碗饭的啊
[06:54] <yunfan> jiero: 嗯 谢谢 要不把我儿子考上大学的也祝了吧
[06:55] <jiero> yunfan, 我觉得那时候人类都灭了。怎么可能
[06:55] <jiero> yunfan, 祝你儿子能活到高中。。。
[06:55] <IsoaSFlus> QiongMangHuo: 你现在在c家吗？
[06:55] <yunfan> jiero: 总比不能活到高中好
[06:55] <QiongMangHuo> IsoaSFlus: .
[06:56] <IsoaSFlus> QiongMangHuo: .是什么意思……
[06:56] <QiongMangHuo> IsoaSFlus: 表示确定 :)
[06:56] <jiero> IsoaSFlus, o 你知道什么意思吗
[06:56] <IsoaSFlus> QiongMangHuo: 总部？
[06:56] <IsoaSFlus> jiero: 不清楚诶
[06:56] <QiongMangHuo> IsoaSFlus: 没有, 在北京呢我
[06:57] <IsoaSFlus> QiongMangHuo: c公司在北京有分部？
[06:57] <QiongMangHuo> IsoaSFlus: .
[06:57] <jiero> IsoaSFlus, 哦 = o
[06:57] <IsoaSFlus> jiero: o~
[06:58] <jiero> IsoaSFlus, 带个尾巴怎么这么怪异。。。
[06:58] <IsoaSFlus> jiero: 像蝌蚪~
[06:58] <jiero> IsoaSFlus, o~o
[06:58] <yunfan> IsoaSFlus: 北京西 北京东
[06:58] <yunfan> jiero: or2
[06:58] <IsoaSFlus> yunfan: 北京西？北京东？什么意思？
[06:58] <yunfan> jiero: 这个屁股翘得更高
[06:59] <yunfan> IsoaSFlus: 俩分部
[06:59] <yunfan> @rrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr2
[07:00] <yunfan> @<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<
[07:00] <yunfan> (.人.) jiero
[07:00] <IsoaSFlus> yunfan: c公司现在营利了吗？
[07:00] <yunfan> IsoaSFlus: 你觉得呢
[07:00] <jiero> IsoaSFlus, 看来不盈利
[07:00] <jiero> IsoaSFlus, 但是能付工资
[07:00] <jiero> IsoaSFlus, 那也行了
[07:01] <IsoaSFlus> jiero: mark有钱？
[07:01] <jiero> IsoaSFlus, 股东不愁就行
[07:01] <yunfan> jiero: 两块二一罐 因该是能盈利得
[07:01] <jiero> yunfan, 能盈利，还有时间成本，感觉不算盈利
[07:02] <yunfan> jiero: 出货量也很大 怎么会不盈利 到处都有
[07:02] <jiero> yunfan, 什么2块2一罐？
[07:02] <IsoaSFlus> yunfan: 你在说啥……
[07:02] <yunfan> jiero: 零度的啊 不是两块二一罐子么
[07:03] <yunfan> jiero: 前几天我还买了
[07:03] <jiero> yunfan, 可乐？
[07:03] <yunfan> IsoaSFlus: coca cola嘛
[07:03] <jiero> yunfan, 说的是当当公司。。。
[07:03] <IsoaSFlus> yunfan: 我们这都要两块5
[07:03] <jiero> IsoaSFlus yunfan 我不喝可乐
[07:04] <IsoaSFlus> jiero: +1，可乐好难喝
[07:04] <jiero> IsoaSFlus yunfan 可乐有啥好喝的。。。宁可喝水
[07:04] <yunfan> jiero: 嗯 最近我都喝屈臣氏了
[07:04] <yunfan> 我尿酸高 得喝点碱性的
[07:04] * IsoaSFlus 我爱喝奶类饮料
[07:04] <yunfan> IsoaSFlus: 你们那是哪儿？
[07:04] <IsoaSFlus> yunfan: 合肥
[07:04] <jiero> yunfan, 你们很近
[07:05] <yunfan> IsoaSFlus: 哦 合肥不好的地方
[07:05] <yunfan> 合肥老冒充我们徽州 真讨厌
[07:05] <jiero> IsoaSFlus yunfan 合肥给我的第一印象是 合成肥料
[07:05] <jiero> IsoaSFlus yunfan 名字对不对？
[07:05] <IsoaSFlus> yunfan: 我是徽州人~
[07:06] <IsoaSFlus> yunfan: 我老家在休宁
[07:06] <yunfan> IsoaSFlus: 你真是学啥用啥
[07:06] <yunfan> IsoaSFlus: 哦 那还好 算你过关 休宁哪里的
[07:06] <IsoaSFlus> 山后
[07:07] <yunfan> jiero: 合肥有个中科大 比较逆天
[07:07] <yunfan> 其他的就没什么了
[07:07] <IsoaSFlus> yunfan: 山后
[07:07] <yunfan> IsoaSFlus: 不知道 我爷爷是蓝田的
[07:07] <jiero> yunfan, IsoaSFlus 关注你了
[07:08] <IsoaSFlus> yunfan: 其实我也不太清楚，我在江西长大的
[07:08] <yunfan> jiero: 笑面佛瞄人缝？
[07:08] <yunfan> IsoaSFlus: 景德镇？
[07:08] <IsoaSFlus> yunfan: 上饶
[07:08] <yunfan> 额
[07:09] <yunfan> 景德镇好多黟县人
[07:09] <yunfan> 历史上
[07:09] <IsoaSFlus> 上饶离黄山很近
[07:09] <IsoaSFlus> 况且wu源也被划到上饶了
[07:11] <yunfan> IsoaSFlus: 对 这个上饶也讨厌 把婺源给搞了去
[07:11] <IsoaSFlus> yunfan: 我貌似有个亲戚在景德镇
[07:11] <yunfan> 还有宣城也是 把绩溪搞了去
[07:11] <IsoaSFlus> yunfan: 上饶现在在搞旅游呢
[07:12] <yunfan> IsoaSFlus: 我知道 抄我们的油菜花节
[07:12] <yunfan> 虽然是抄 不过确实搞得好
[07:13] <yunfan> 我们这边官僚太烂了
[07:13] <IsoaSFlus> 我爸经常去拍
[07:14] <yunfan> IsoaSFlus: 那你去合肥搞什么 江西不是最近发展挺好得
[07:15] <IsoaSFlus> yunfan: 上次你不是问过了吗，我在这里读书啊
[07:15] * QiongMangHuo 坐等高手帮我解决go难题
[07:16] <yunfan> IsoaSFlus: 干嘛去合肥读书 去南昌不就行了
[07:16] <yunfan> IsoaSFlus: 难道你就是中科大 得？
[07:16] <yunfan> QiongMangHuo: 不是有蛤魔嘛
[07:16] <QiongMangHuo> O0XX: 看邮件, 帮我解决 =,=
[07:17] <IsoaSFlus> yunfan: 渣二本呢
[07:17] <cherrot> QiongMangHuo, go浪大法好
[07:18] <cherrot> 听说golang的性能和scala相当？
[07:18] <IsoaSFlus> yunfan: 学渣没什么选择，来合肥也还好
[07:18] <yunfan> IsoaSFlus: 我觉得你还是在南昌好点 要不醒就去杭州上海 也别去合肥
[07:19] <yunfan> cherrot: scala应该赶不上go
[07:19] <yunfan> 不要乱比
[07:19] <IsoaSFlus> yunfan: 不准备待在合肥
[07:20] <cherrot> yunfan, 性能上go 略高？ 但没到一个数量级吧
[07:20] <yunfan> IsoaSFlus: 那就好 我怕你跌坑里
[07:20] <yunfan> cherrot: 高好多吧 歹佬
[07:20] <cherrot> yunfan, 有benchmark么？ 我也只是听说 让我挺大跌眼镜的
[07:20] <IsoaSFlus> yunfan: 我想继续往下读，二本太揪心了……
[07:21] <MSErgo4K> cherrot: go的性能略差于java
[07:21] <MSErgo4K> cherrot: 在大型项目上, 差距更大一些.
[07:22] <yunfan> MSErgo4K: 并发怎么差了
[07:22] <MSErgo4K> yunfan: 什么并发?
[07:22] <cherrot> MSErgo4K, 不懂编译原理是硬伤啊 搞不懂为啥性能达不到要求
[07:23] <MSErgo4K> cherrot: gc太差.
[07:23] <MSErgo4K> cherrot: 全局锁住慢慢检索导致的
[07:23] <cherrot> MSErgo4K, soga ~
[07:24] <MSErgo4K> cherrot: 所以有个去gc的趋势啊
[07:24] <cherrot> MSErgo4K, 这个怎么说？
[07:24] <cherrot> MSErgo4K, 去gc 自己管理？
[07:25] <yunfan> MSErgo4K: io的
[07:25] <MSErgo4K> cherrot: 编译期检测出内存的使用和丢弃
[07:25] <MSErgo4K> cherrot: 编译会慢很多, 但是执行效率高
[07:26] <cherrot> MSErgo4K, 好像除了queue是线程安全外 其他变量都不是线程安全吧
[07:26] <cherrot> MSErgo4K, 嗯 这个是可以接受的
[07:26] <MSErgo4K> cherrot: 所以要在语法层有限制. 比如不安全的量要有排他性
[07:27] <MSErgo4K> cherrot: 就是, 只有一个引用有修改的能力.
[07:27] <cherrot> MSErgo4K, 比如把变量全都immutable ？ lol
[07:27] <MSErgo4K> cherrot: 都不可改那不行
[07:27] <cherrot> MSErgo4K, 会导致内存的浪费
[07:27] <MSErgo4K> cherrot: 都不可改, 会降低性能的
[07:28] <yunfan> 用atom就解决了
[07:28] <yunfan> 像clojure那样玩
[07:28] <MSErgo4K> cherrot: 本来可以轻松原地修改的东西, immutable了之后都要拷贝一次
[07:28] <yunfan> cherrot: 现在都什么年代了
[07:28] <cherrot> MSErgo4K, 我觉得你说的去gc也不算特别难，因为go是块级作用域吧？
[07:28] <MSErgo4K> cherrot: 去gc当然难
[07:29] <cherrot> MSErgo4K, 起码编译期能知道变量的作用域啊
[07:29] <Yong_> 今天的人比昨天还多呢！
[07:29] <cherrot> MSErgo4K, 好吧 好像我naive了
[07:33] <MSErgo4K> cherrot: Global A; defn foo(x) {s = malloc (100); if x > 0 A = s}; foo (z) 编译期就搞不定了
[07:33] <^k^> 暂无新帖 讲个笑话吧: 万能冻力 : 两个埃及人围绕天气寒冷问题发生了争执。一个说:"听说美国比英国天气冷得多,当山兔向高处窜跳时会被冻僵而悬在半空中！" 另一个说:"哪有这回事,根据万有引力定律这是绝对不可能的。" 第一个争辩道:"哎！你不知道,天气太冷万有引力定律也冻死了。"
[07:37] <IsoaSFlus> 好久没写代码了……
[07:37] <IsoaSFlus> 堕落了
[07:37] <QiongMangHuo> 好久没写代码了……
[07:37] <QiongMangHuo> 堕落了
[07:40] <cherrot> QiongMangHuo, 好久没写代码了……
[07:40] <cherrot> 堕落了
[07:40] <MSErgo4K> 好久没写代码了... 堕落了...
[07:40] <MSErgo4K> 其实我本来就没写过吧...
[07:41] <jusss> QiongMangHuo: 杀与艹之歌果然不错
[07:41] <cherrot> MSErgo4K, 唉 最近神烦
[07:41] <jusss> fargo 纸牌屋 penny dreadful 杀与艹之歌, 质量都很棒
[07:42] <jusss> 比某些电影还好看
[07:42] <MSErgo4K> cherrot: 咋?
[07:42] <^k^> 取新帖 timeout
[07:42] <cherrot> MSErgo4K, 干活不爽
[07:42] <MSErgo4K> cherrot: 跳槽
[07:42] <cherrot> MSErgo4K, 坚持过这阵子吧 =。=
[07:44] <MSErgo4K> cherrot: 岇
[07:44] <MSErgo4K> cherrot: 你现在工资高啊, 多做些工作也是应该的
[07:45] <cherrot> MSErgo4K, 你说的好有道理
[07:47] <MSErgo4K> cherrot: 你看我, 只能每天跟 O0XX 打百战天虫
[07:47] <MSErgo4K> cherrot: 因为老子工资低, 不值当的去干活
[07:48] <cysnap> 杀与草之歌第五季更新到几集了？
[07:48] <cherrot> MSErgo4K, =。=
[07:48] <BuMangHuo> test
[07:48] <^k^> BuMangHuo:点点点. 15:48
[07:48] <jusss> 刚看第二季,还看到
[07:50] <O0XX> MSErgo4K: 来一局?
[07:50] <MSErgo4K> O0XX: .
[07:50] <cherrot> jusss, 阉割版？
[07:50] <cherrot> O0XX, 是刺猬大作战么？
[07:50] <jusss> cherrot: 不是,是刚开始追
[07:50] <MSErgo4K> O0XX: ip
[07:50] <cherrot> MSErgo4K, 是刺猬大作战么
[07:51] <MSErgo4K> cherrot: 不是.
[07:51] <MSErgo4K> cherrot: warmux
[07:51] <O0XX> MSErgo4K:167
[07:51] <cysnap> 不能看腾讯的阉割版
[07:51] <cysnap> 缺少好多优美的画面啊！
[07:51] <MSErgo4K> O0XX: 你输了
[07:52] <O0XX> MSErgo4K: zaijian
[07:52] <MSErgo4K> 草草草!!!
[07:53] <cherrot> MSErgo4K, 没有刺猬大作战可爱 差评
[07:54] <O0XX> MSErgo4K: 哥现在很厉害的
[07:56] <BuMangHuo> 五一四天假哎
[07:56] <BuMangHuo> 去哪里好
[07:56] <cherrot> BuMangHuo, 又要外出斩人了啊
[07:57] <cysnap> @BuMangHuo 哪儿也别去，到处都是人
[07:57] <BuMangHuo> cherrot: 没那兴趣
[07:57] <BuMangHuo> 你们就黑我吧
[07:57] <cherrot> BuMangHuo, 万人斩独孤求败了。。
[07:59] <yunfan> BuMangHuo: 求破罩式
[08:00] <yunfan> BuMangHuo: 既然不想出去 那就在家学下forth好了 反正四天你学不到吃亏 也上不了什么大当
[08:02] * yunfan 带我陪斩去
[08:05] * yunfan 改个艺名叫杨杨
[08:06] <QiongMangHuo> BuMangHuo, 又要外出斩人了啊
[08:08] <yunfan> 千人斩の超记录 新番
[08:11] <MSErgo4K> happyaron: 新的apt-get有bug吧?
[08:12] <QiongMangHuo> MSErgo4K: 啷个?
[08:13] <BuMangHuo> ...
[08:13] <MSErgo4K> QiongMangHuo: 新的apt会让build出来的镜像有问题
[08:13] <QiongMangHuo> BuMangHuo: 五一为啥4天?
[08:13] <QiongMangHuo> MSErgo4K: 细节一点呢? 0_0
[08:13] <BuMangHuo> QiongMangHuo: 我是年轻人啊
[08:13] <MSErgo4K> QiongMangHuo: 没了.
[08:14] <QiongMangHuo> BuMangHuo: 窝也是
[08:14] <BuMangHuo> QiongMangHuo: 4 号也过节
[08:14] <QiongMangHuo> BuMangHuo: 4号半天啊
[08:14] <MSErgo4K> BuMangHuo: 青年节半天而已啊
[08:14] <BuMangHuo> 1986年5月4日（不含）至2001年5月4日（含）
[08:14] <BuMangHuo> QiongMangHuo: 你是 86 后半年哇？
[08:14] <QiongMangHuo> BuMangHuo: 快年底了都
[08:14] <BuMangHuo> MSErgo4K: 没关系，迟到半天而已
[08:15] <BuMangHuo> 老板现在也没法说我们，奖金迟到了都8个月了....
[08:15] <MSErgo4K> BuMangHuo: 我去年的年终奖还没发呢...
[08:16] <MSErgo4K> QiongMangHuo: O0XX 啥时候发年终奖?
[08:16] <QiongMangHuo> MSErgo4K: 30号下午3点
[08:16] <O0XX> MSErgo4K: 明年..
[08:16] <BuMangHuo> 领导安排工作问啥时能能完， 都说“不确定”
[08:16] <BuMangHuo> 领导们都懂这个哏
[08:16] <QiongMangHuo> -rw-rw-r-- 1 1000 1000 1150844928 Apr 22 12:30 ubuntu-15.04-desktop-amd64.iso
[08:17] <QiongMangHuo> 等不及了 nnnd
[08:17] <BuMangHuo> 装装装
[08:20] <MSErgo4K> QiongMangHuo: 好!
[08:21] <QiongMangHuo> MSErgo4K: 你今年奖金2.56元人民币
[08:21] <MSErgo4K> QiongMangHuo: 这么多?
[08:21] <QiongMangHuo> MSErgo4K: 嗯 快谢主隆恩
[08:22] <O0XX> QiongMangHuo: 装装装
[08:23] <MSErgo4K> QiongMangHuo: O0XX: 我海淘的一双鞋, 竟然没被税!!!!
[08:23] <QiongMangHuo> MSErgo4K: 我的鞋子还没进关
[08:23] <QiongMangHuo> MSErgo4K: 早知道一起买了就
[08:23] <^k^> 新 网卡问题以及网络和拨号 • 系统设置-网络里没有无线网络 http://forum.ubuntu.org.cn/viewtopic.php?t=469731 ipconfig只有eth0和lo,应该是系统未识别无线网卡？ 原来是好好的，我不小心删了所有内核启动不了系统了，就把14.04安装包里的kernal拷了回去用那个启动，其他都正常就突然发现上不了无
[08:23] <^k^> ─> 线网了右上角只有启用联网没有启用wifi rfkill命令没有任何反应，ifconfig wlan0 up显示：wlan0 …
[08:23] <QiongMangHuo> MSErgo4K: 至今海淘除了电脑没有被税过
[08:24] <MSErgo4K> QiongMangHuo: 你买的少, 最近两个月被税概率大大提升了
[08:24] <QiongMangHuo> MSErgo4K: 哇...
[08:24] <QiongMangHuo> MSErgo4K: 我鞋子52$, 应该还好吧
[08:24] <MSErgo4K> QiongMangHuo: 没事, 我的$51, 无税今天上午到手
[08:25] <MSErgo4K> QiongMangHuo: 从下单到手, 20天
[08:25] <QiongMangHuo> MSErgo4K: 啥鞋?
[08:25] <MSErgo4K> QiongMangHuo: 等我给你找link
[08:25] <MSErgo4K> QiongMangHuo: http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00KSXCL3S/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o01_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
[08:25] <^k^> MSErgo4K: ⇪ Mizuno Men's Wave Inspire 11 Running Shoe, Alloy Black, 8.5 2E US | Amazon.com
[08:26] <QiongMangHuo> MSErgo4K: 你这么小的脚???
[08:26] <MSErgo4K> QiongMangHuo: 不是我穿
[08:26] <QiongMangHuo> MSErgo4K: 嗷
[08:26] <QiongMangHuo> MSErgo4K: 男鞋, 还是小啊
[08:26] <MSErgo4K> QiongMangHuo: ... ...
[08:27] * QiongMangHuo 运动鞋10码, 皮鞋9~9.5码路过
[08:27] <MSErgo4K> QiongMangHuo: 我等特价990呢
[08:27] <QiongMangHuo> MSErgo4K: 记得叫我
[08:27] <MSErgo4K> QiongMangHuo: .
[08:30] * QiongMangHuo 我买的鞋原价129$ 我买的时候52$ 现价90$, 开森
[08:31] <O0XX> MSErgo4K: 这鞋这么贵...
[08:35] <BuMangHuo> test
[08:35] <^k^> BuMangHuo:点点点. 16:34
[08:38] <MSErgo4K> O0XX: 我买的时候51, 现在119.95. 感觉没亏而已.... cc QiongMangHuo
[08:38] <O0XX> MSErgo4K: 好吧...
[08:38] <O0XX> MSErgo4K: QiongMangHuo 你们都是有钳人
[08:39] <happyaron> QiongMangHuo: .pool里的还是有可能被换掉的
[08:39] <happyaron> QiongMangHuo: release team / foundations team 今天全体待命
[08:39] <QiongMangHuo> happyaron: 赞小dd
[08:40] <happyaron> QiongMangHuo: 没我啥事
[08:40] <O0XX> happyaron: 赞dd小
[08:40] <happyaron> O0XX: 还是没我啥事
[08:40] <QiongMangHuo> MSErgo4K: 有苏宁易购账号么?
[08:43] <^k^> 新 常用硬件支持 • intel i7-4771的集显居然都无法驱动？ http://forum.ubuntu.org.cn/viewtopic.php?t=469733 我的新机器（没有装独显）是intel i7-4771自带的集显Intel HD Graphics 4600，应该是内核自带驱动的吧，系统本来是kubuntu 12.04LTS，原生内核无法打开特效，试过装最新的backport内核(trusty)3.13.0.49也不行
[08:43] <^k^> ─> ，求解惑 zz: photor — 2015-04-23 16:42
[08:44] <FJKong> happyaron: hello
[08:44] <happyaron> FJKong: 你们都在楼下么？
[08:44] <FJKong> happyaron: yep
[08:44] <happyaron> FJKong: 那我等会儿就下去
[08:44] <FJKong> 你在房间聊妹无妨的
[08:45] <happyaron> FJKong: 没有妹可聊，刚又传了个包
[08:45] <FJKong> happyaron: 瓶起子给你备好了
[08:46] <happyaron> FJKong: 好的好的
[08:46] <happyaron> FJKong: 等我把infinity请出来再说
[08:46] <happyaron> 这哥是今天最大的苦逼
[08:47] <BuMangHuo> ..
[08:47] <FJKong> 我以为是英菲尼迪
[08:47] <happyaron> FJKong: Adam Cornad
[08:47] <O0XX> happyaron: 你们这是又在哪gaoji?
[08:48] <QiongMangHuo> O0XX: BuMangHuo MSErgo4K 苏宁现在下单, 明天上午能到么?
[08:48] <happyaron> O0XX: 卧槽release day不是战斗值班么
[08:48] <MSErgo4K> QiongMangHuo: 不是第三方, 明天应该能到, 但是怎么保证上午就不知道了
[08:48] <O0XX> happyaron: 关键是在哪啊
[08:48] <FJKong> rolling on the bed...........
[08:48] <MSErgo4K> QiongMangHuo: 买啥? 下午不行?
[08:48] <QiongMangHuo> MSErgo4K: 想让他送家啊
[08:49] <MSErgo4K> QiongMangHuo: .
[08:51] <happyaron> O0XX: 伦敦啊
[08:51] <BuMangHuo> QiongMangHuo: 可以吧
[08:51] <BuMangHuo> QiongMangHuo: 不是有预计送达时间么
[08:51] <QiongMangHuo> BuMangHuo: 9:00 ~ 14:00
[08:51] <QiongMangHuo> BuMangHuo: ....
[08:52] <QiongMangHuo> 算了 选周六好了
[08:52] <O0XX> QiongMangHuo: 不是还有个夜间送货么
[08:52] <O0XX> QiongMangHuo: 让快递妹纸给你送床上去
[08:52] <QiongMangHuo> O0XX: 苏宁没看到指定夜间...
[08:53] <archl> QiongMangHuo,苏宁真黑，我让一同事买SSD，结果到了这个城市已经3天了还没送上来！！！
[08:53] <archl> QiongMangHuo, 我还没用过SSD啊啊啊。
[08:54] <QiongMangHuo> archl: 我也没
[08:55] <archl> QiongMangHuo, 不 休眠到硬盘的启动速度也够快了。
[08:55] <archl> QiongMangHuo, 我想想SSD休眠启动速度是1秒钟吗？
[08:58] <gfxmode> 我用的MacBook Air是SSD硬盘，秒启动
[09:00] <archl> gfxmode, 笔记本无视啊。笔记本直接不重启。。。
[09:00] <archl> gfxmode, 全丫的待机
[09:01] <gebjgd> gfxmode, 多少秒
[09:01] <gfxmode> gebjgd: 1、2秒，没仔细看
[09:02] <gfxmode> 现在用的Lenovo Y470开机大概要1分钟左右
[09:03] <gebjgd> gfxmode, 我tp 410s 11s
[09:04] <gebjgd> gfxmode, 你的lenovo用的win吧
[09:04] <BuMangHuo> QiongMangHuo: cscopetag 用 C-] 跳的时候，不是在新 buf 里面打开头文件的， 是先关了当前的文件，再打开头文件的？
[09:09] <QiongMangHuo> BuMangHuo: 母鸡啊
[09:09] <gfxmode> gebjgd: 没装Win，用的Archlinux
[09:10] <gebjgd> gfxmode, ssd还那么慢
[09:10] <stardiviner> gfxmode: 你用SSD？效果怎么样？
[09:11] <gfxmode> gebjgd: Lenovo的机器用的机械硬盘，要1分钟左右；MacBook是SSD硬盘，1、2秒
[09:11] <stardiviner> 1，2秒，这么快？神奇
[09:12] <stardiviner> 我华硕的，也要2分钟。
[09:13] <gebjgd> gfxmode, 那有那么快
[09:13] <MSErgo4K> 1,2秒? 哪儿有那么快...
[09:14] <stardiviner> 就是阿，太牛逼了
[09:14] <MSErgo4K> bios起来都不止2秒了啊
[09:14] <stardiviner> 不会是来自360的开机时间吧？
[09:15] <gfxmode> 哦，我过几天测下开机时间
[09:15] <gebjgd> gfxmode, 10s靠谱 1,2s是在你的梦里
[09:16] <MSErgo4K> 可能是S3吧?
[09:17] <stardiviner> 扒饭。
[09:18] <stardiviner> 这里的有人招Rails实习生么？
[09:18] <gfxmode> 存储用的是这个：128GB PCIe 快閃儲存 http://www.apple.com/hk/macbook-air/specs.html
[09:18] <^k^> gfxmode: ⇪ Apple - MacBook Air - 技術規格 pp: HK$6,688
[09:22] <MSErgo4K> gfxmode: 14年下半年的mba啊?
[09:22] <MSErgo4K> gfxmode: 开机二十秒左右, 没你说的1/2秒那么快
[09:22] <gebjgd> gfxmode, 好有钱
[09:24] * QiongMangHuo 还没用过ssd
[09:24] <gfxmode> MSErgo4K: 是的
[09:25] <yunfan> fuck 我刚在京东上买了个电信手机 淘宝就跟电信合作宣布25号推出廉价电信手机 tmd
[09:26] <gfxmode> 京东可以申请降价补偿的，好像
[09:27] <MSErgo4K> yunfan: 无条件退货
[09:27] <yunfan> MSErgo4K: 解决了 京东取消了订单 京东明天才送到
[09:27] <yunfan> 不过总感觉这样做不好
[09:28] <cherrot> 一着急在亚马逊买了个东西 今天才发现易迅便宜100多。。
[09:28] <yunfan> 等25号回去 就去买淘宝手机 哈哈
[09:28] <yunfan> 买 299的
[09:28] * QiongMangHuo 退电信保平安
[09:28] <gfxmode> yunfan: 商人无义，Biao子无情。不用内疚
[09:28] * cysnap 我需要皮鞋，求300以内的推荐？
[09:29] <yunfan> gfxmode: 你不能用别人的烂来给自己开脱 两码事
[09:29] <yunfan> QiongMangHuo: 在南方还是得有个电信 绑定宽带的呢
[09:29] <QiongMangHuo> yunfan: 可以单独订宽带
[09:31] <yunfan> QiongMangHuo: 我定的时候是套餐的 等过了今年12月再说 tmd 当初我199的宽带 现在 99一月 而且还送两个号码
[09:31] <yunfan> QiongMangHuo: 而且我不能切换过去 fuck
[09:32] <yunfan> 总感觉这是他们故意让老客户跑路 然后后面可以吸收为新客户
[09:32] <yunfan> QiongMangHuo: 最离谱的是晚上大家下班回来 访问速度就掉下来了 又时候网页都打不开
[09:32] <yunfan> 20m的光线到楼 shit
[09:33] <yunfan> 不过有点叼 有公网ip
[09:35] <gfxmode> 好牛逼。你可以架服务器了
[09:35] <BuMangHuo> QiongMangHuo: 你用 C-] 从一个文件跳到另一个文件，如果当前文件有没有修改的保存，不会报 E37: No write since last change (add ! to override)?
[09:35] <BuMangHuo> cc cherrot
[09:36] <BuMangHuo> 记得用 ctags 没这问题哇
[09:37] <cherrot> BuMangHuo, 有修改才会报错吧
[09:37] <BuMangHuo> cherrot: 对啊，但是这不应该报错才对吧
[09:37] <BuMangHuo> cherrot: 有修改跟跳转有啥关系
[09:37] <MSErgo4K> BuMangHuo: 你怎么换vim了?
[09:37] <cherrot> BuMangHuo, 我的是分屏显示 所以从不报错
[09:37] <O0XX> BuMangHuo: cherrot QiongMangHuo MSErgo4K 买买买 图灵社区上的电子书这两天全场六折
[09:37] <BuMangHuo> MSErgo4K: emacs 遇到几个不能解决的问题
[09:38] <MSErgo4K> O0XX: http://tieba.baidu.com/f?kw=%BD%E4%C9%AB&fr=ala0
[09:38] <^k^> MSErgo4K: ⇪ 戒色吧_百度贴吧
[09:38] <MSErgo4K> BuMangHuo: 比如?
[09:38] <BuMangHuo> cherrot: 分屏？ 啥意思？
[09:38] <BuMangHuo> MSErgo4K: 忘了呢...
[09:38] <MSErgo4K> BuMangHuo: ... ...
[09:38] <QiongMangHuo> O0XX: 没有什么要买的书啊
[09:38] <O0XX> MSErgo4K: 2015RD
[09:39] <MSErgo4K> 等先买surface 3再说吧
[09:40] <BuMangHuo> cherrot: http://vim.wikia.com/wiki/When_jumping_on_a_tag,_automatically_split_the_window_if_the_current_buffer_has_been_modified 这个办法不错
[09:40] <^k^> ⇪ ti: When jumping on a tag, automatically split the window if the current buffer has been modified - Vim Tips Wiki
[09:40] <^k^> 新 字体美化和中文支持 • ubuntu 中 phpstorm 中文字体发虚 http://forum.ubuntu.org.cn/viewtopic.php?t=469737 原来按照教程安装了java font fix 版jdk Code: sudo add-apt-repository ppa:no1wantdthisname/openjdk-fontfix sudo apt-get update sudo apt-get upgrade 但是昨天更新了openjdk 的一些包 不知道是从官方的库更新的还是从ppa库更
[09:40] <QiongMangHuo> kindle看技术书要死啊...
[09:40] <BuMangHuo> cherrot: 不过我觉得还是以前的在新的 buf 打开的方式比较好
[09:40] <QiongMangHuo> BuMangHuo: C-w ]
[09:41] <gfxmode> MSErgo4K: Surface 3略坑，它配个键盘快1000块了
[09:41] <BuMangHuo> QiongMangHuo: 恩，这个也是分屏吧
[09:41] <MSErgo4K> gfxmode: 但是还是比ipad air便宜吧?
[09:41] <QiongMangHuo> BuMangHuo: 嗯哼
[09:42] <MSErgo4K> 苹果口中的pci-e ssd是mini pci-e还是full size pci-e啊?
[09:43] <cherrot> BuMangHuo, 嗯
[09:43] <QiongMangHuo> MSErgo4K: 都不是, 是焊上去走pcie的
[09:43] <gfxmode> MSErgo4K: 比iPad Air贵。我同事买的Surface Pro 3用了7、8千块
[09:43] <MSErgo4K> QiongMangHuo: 昂.
[09:44] <MSErgo4K> gfxmode: surface pro是跟mba比的. surface才是跟ipad比的. 你混淆了
[09:44] <QiongMangHuo> pro不是arm和rt? 没法用吧
[09:45] <QiongMangHuo> O0XX: 买买买
[09:45] <MSErgo4K> QiongMangHuo: pro是i5
[09:45] <O0XX> QiongMangHuo: 穷
[09:45] <gfxmode> MSErgo4K: 哦。你打的ipad air，我就回ipad air了
[09:45] <QiongMangHuo> MSErgo4K: 啊? 那个arm和windows RT的是啥?
[09:45] <MSErgo4K> gfxmode: 我说的是surface跟ipad air比
[09:46] <MSErgo4K> gfxmode: 你说的7/8k说的是surface pro啊
[09:46] <MSErgo4K> gfxmode: 不是同一个东西啊
[09:46] <O0XX> MSErgo4K: 我靠, 窦唯现在长这样样子了你敢信? http://ww1.sinaimg.cn/bmiddle/61e7f4aajw1erfjdttagqj20g40lht9z.jpg
[09:47] <MSErgo4K> O0XX: 颇有李老板的面相
[09:47] <QiongMangHuo> The older, original Surface and Surface 2, with their ARM-based processors and Windows RT operating system, are pitched against the iPad and other tablet computers. The Surface Pro 3 (like the preceding Surface Pro and Surface Pro 2), with its Intel CPU and Windows 8 OS, is a full-fledged PC that competes against Ultrabooks
[09:47] <gfxmode> MSErgo4K: 嗯，我弄混淆了
[09:47] <QiongMangHuo> MSErgo4K: 尼码
[09:47] <MSErgo4K> QiongMangHuo: 啥?
[09:47] <QiongMangHuo> O0XX: 这不可能是窦唯啊
[09:48] <O0XX> QiongMangHuo: 你觉得像腾格尔是吧?
[09:48] <MSErgo4K> 腾格尔 +1
[09:48] <MSErgo4K> 尹相杰 +1
[09:48] <QiongMangHuo> O0XX: 都不像啊, 你们脸盲?
[09:48] <O0XX> QiongMangHuo: 这就是窦唯
[09:48] <QiongMangHuo> O0XX: 不可能啊, 窦唯听帅的啊
[09:48] <MSErgo4K> QiongMangHuo: surface pro 3用的是intel的cpu啊....
[09:49] <QiongMangHuo> MSErgo4K: 嗯, 是的, 和一代二代混了
[09:49] <MSErgo4K> QiongMangHuo: arm/rt的是坑爹货
[09:50] <MSErgo4K> QiongMangHuo: 你看小李子变化那么大, 为什么就不能接受窦唯变化大呢?
[09:51] <O0XX> MSErgo4K: 王菲吸精
[09:51] <MSErgo4K> O0XX: ...
[09:51] <O0XX> MSErgo4K: 你看看 李亚鹏 和 窦唯 都秃顶了
[09:51] <MSErgo4K> O0XX: http://tieba.baidu.com/f?kw=%BD%E4%C9%AB&fr=ala0
[09:51] <^k^> MSErgo4K: ⇪ 戒色吧_百度贴吧
[09:59] <BuMangHuo> QiongMangHuo: cherrot 配置这个 set hidden
[09:59] <BuMangHuo> 就可以直接用 C-] 在新的 buf 打开，当前的 buf 到后台
[09:59] <BuMangHuo> 不需要分割窗口了
[09:59] <QiongMangHuo> BuMangHuo: 没有这需求 =,=
[10:00] <cherrot> BuMangHuo, 没有这需求 =，=
[10:00] <BuMangHuo> 你们是多大的屏幕都...
[10:01] <QiongMangHuo> BuMangHuo: 12.5" 和 21.5"
[10:05] <cherrot> QiongMangHuo, 现在万分后悔用git merge 啊。。。
[10:05] <BuMangHuo> 你们都这么大，我想去看看
[10:05] <QiongMangHuo> cherrot: 为啥子?
[10:05] <QiongMangHuo> BuMangHuo: 就你小?
[10:05] <cherrot> QiongMangHuo, 每一次merge都要重新解决曾经的conflict ...
[10:05] <BuMangHuo> ...
[10:05] <cherrot> QiongMangHuo, 是不是rebase 就不会有这种烦恼了
[10:05] <QiongMangHuo> cherrot: 接近conflict要有技巧啊
[10:06] <QiongMangHuo> cherrot: conflict? rebase也会conflict?
[10:06] <QiongMangHuo> cherrot: conflict? rebase也会conflict!
[10:06] <cherrot> QiongMangHuo, 可merge不能记住我的历史。。。所以每次merge我都要解决以前曾经解决过的confit。。。
[10:07] <cherrot> QiongMangHuo, rebase也搞不定？ 但rebase 生成的是一次提交吧？ 这样我就能轻松diff了。。
[10:07] <QiongMangHuo> cherrot: rebase呢, 是把你自己的的改动最后apply的
[10:07] <QiongMangHuo> cherrot: 一直conflict? 你为啥不push回去?
[10:08] <cherrot> QiongMangHuo, 两个分支差异越来越大了 一个是线上版本 一个是开发版本
[10:08] <O0XX> cherrot: push -f
[10:09] <cherrot> QiongMangHuo, 所以目前都是从master 往 dev merge
[10:09] <O0XX> cherrot: 直接盖掉不一致的
[10:09] <O0XX> cherrot: 惯着他们了
[10:09] <cherrot> QiongMangHuo, master 和 dev 又在分别前进
[10:09] <cherrot> O0XX, 汝肾屌
[10:09] <QiongMangHuo> cherrot: master竟然前进....
[10:09] <QiongMangHuo> cherrot: 这啥flow哦!!!
[10:09] <cherrot> QiongMangHuo, 嗯 我们的master 就是线上版本 哈哈
[10:09] <O0XX> QiongMangHuo: master为啥不前进?
[10:09] <cherrot> QiongMangHuo, 没你们周期这么长
[10:09] <QiongMangHuo> O0XX: master不应该只merge, 不独自开发么
[10:10] <O0XX> QiongMangHuo: 对啊, 也可以被别人merge进来嘛
[10:10] <QiongMangHuo> O0XX: 他的master自己在开发前进
[10:10] <yunfan> cherrot: 我的这么大 你想来咬不
[10:10] <O0XX> cherrot: push -f
[10:10] * QiongMangHuo 夭寿啦
[10:10] <cherrot> QiongMangHuo, 不要在意这些细节~ 我们一天3上线
[10:11] <QiongMangHuo> cherrot: 夭寿啦
[10:11] <cherrot> QiongMangHuo, 少年郎
[10:11] <O0XX> cherrot: 不能rebase回master?
[10:11] <QiongMangHuo> cherrot: 你接近conflict的时候尽量别改上下文吧, 只能这样了
[10:11] <cherrot> O0XX, 能 but not now
[10:11] <QiongMangHuo> cherrot: 多行变单行塞进去之类
[10:12] <cherrot> QiongMangHuo, 只能尽量了
[10:12] <cherrot> QiongMangHuo, 正确的流程是啥呢，切开发分支后，master上提交的补丁应该rebase 到 dev分支吧？
[10:12] <cherrot> QiongMangHuo, 然后dev到master 是用merge ？
[10:13] <QiongMangHuo> cherrot: http://nvie.com/posts/a-successful-git-branching-model/
[10:13] <^k^> QiongMangHuo: ⇪ A successful Git branching model » nvie.com
[10:13] <cherrot> QiongMangHuo, 于是其实是我弄反了吧
[10:14] <QiongMangHuo> cherrot: 你说的类似这里的hotfix, 应该即使进develop
[10:14] <O0XX> cherrot: 向A merge的branch 需要先 rebase到 A
[10:14] <cherrot> QiongMangHuo, 嗯
[10:15] <QiongMangHuo> cherrot: workflow还是要搞好, 否则太多无用工作量
[10:15] <cherrot> QiongMangHuo, 悔不当初
[10:16] * cherrot 他喵的谁知道这么快就空降了开发来协同。。。
[10:16] <QiongMangHuo> cherrot: 亡羊补牢 为时未晚
[10:17] <cherrot> QiongMangHuo, 分支分叉很多了 只能暂时忍忍了 线上版本接近冻结状态了
[10:21] <BuMangHuo> test
[10:21] <^k^> BuMangHuo:点点点. 18:20
[10:21] <BuMangHuo> 咋跟 onlylove 一样掉线了今天
[10:32] <^k^> 新 网卡问题以及网络和拨号 • 求助求助！！在ubuntu系统中，无法ping通。。。 http://forum.ubuntu.org.cn/viewtopic.php?t=469738 具体情况是这样的， 这个ubuntu服务器安装了两个网卡，分别接入到两个子网段，两个网卡的IP为192.168.2.3和192.168.4.18 从网路上来说，两个网段都是能够相互ping通的，比如
[10:32] <^k^> ─> 从192.168.2.144 ping 192.168.4.18 是通的。正反都可以 但是现在我在192.168.2.37 却不能ping通 192.1 …
[11:12] <^k^> 新 影音多媒体 • 有用kodibuntu的朋友吗？ 问个关于多个声卡的问题。。 http://forum.ubuntu.org.cn/viewtopic.php?t=469740 机器是atom的离子平台，默认音频是HDMI输出，想着XBMC所有的声音播放就交给hdmi输出了。还有一块板载声卡空闲用来做其他音乐播放器的输出。但是应该如何实现才好啊。。 装了
[11:39] <liont> /msg NickServ REGISTER stdioDX1810?=cs:i [email protected]
[12:18] <gfxmode_> 后天公司要和服装公司的联谊
[12:19] <jusss> gfxmode_: 是岛国电影里的那种联谊吗?
[12:21] <gfxmode_> jusss: 不是。我们单身狗太多了 最近好多都把女同事发展为结婚对象了。领导觉得不是很好 希望我们去别的公司找对象
[12:22] <eve_ouyang> ....
[12:22] <jusss> gfxmode_: 这叫肥水不流外人田
[12:22] <eve_ouyang> gfxmode_: 看来你公司的单身女同事也不少
[12:23] <gfxmode_> jusss: 你公司禁止内部恋爱么？
[12:23] <jusss> gfxmode_: 或者近水楼台先得月 日久生情
[12:23] <jusss> gfxmode_: 不
[12:26] <gfxmode_> yegle: 你是不是写twip的大牛？
[12:28] <^k^> 新 Ubuntu GNOME • ubuntu gnome 15.04 download address http://forum.ubuntu.org.cn/viewtopic.php?t=469741 ubuntu gnome 15.04 download address: http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-gnome/ ... 4/release/ share with you, just download it and try it !! zz: joshuaPC — 2015-04-23 20:28
[13:20] <jusss`> 杀与艹之歌,剧情分支太多了,同时好几个线
[13:57] <^k^> 暂无新帖 讲个笑话吧: http://xiaohua.zol.com.cn/detail1/16481.html 爱神和月老 : 甲:"你知道西方国家闹离婚的为什么比中国的多?" 乙:"这还不简单,因为西方的爱神丘比特是个小娃娃,而中国的月下老人,经验当然丰富得多！ "
[13:58] <^k^> 新 虚拟机和虚拟化 • 有没有专为运行虚拟机设计的linux系统 http://forum.ubuntu.org.cn/viewtopic.php?t=469742 有没有专门为运行virtualbox之类虚拟机运行的操作系统。 极精简极高效。 真正的工作是在虚拟机上完成的。 有木有？有木有？ zz: 百草谷居士 — 2015-04-23 21:58
[14:03] <^k^> 新 新闻和通知 • 智能“物联网”新宠：Ubuntu Core平台 http://forum.ubuntu.org.cn/viewtopic.php?t=469743 从Ubuntu相关方面了解，该公司有意向让Linux成为物联网更智能和可扩展的核心平台。Snappy Ubuntu Core是面向智能设备的最新平台，可以运行存储在本地或依赖于云端的相同软件，而后者的最大好处
[14:12] <^k^> 新 初学者园地 - 14.10 • 老是来请教问题，网卡和指针 http://forum.ubuntu.org.cn/viewtopic.php?t=469744 最近把本子换成ubuntu系统。但是开机的时候经常会碰到如下问题： 1、光标指针找不到。不能用触摸板，但是在设置里面可以看到触摸板设置部分，说明设备是认出来的。个人理解。 不明所以然
[14:12] <^k^> ─> ，重启一下就正常了。 2、无线网卡没有启动。 右上角点开wifi发现，wireless is disabled by h …
[14:39] <cuihao> https://mirrors.ustc.edu.cn/ubuntu-releases/15.04/
[14:39] <^k^> ⇪ ti: Index of /ubuntu-releases/15.04/
[14:39] <cuihao> 发布了哟
[15:18] <CloudFStrife> ／part
[16:26] <Ukari> 有人在用hadoop-2.6.0么
[23:34] <hoxily> kandu: 早
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[00:00] <Elleo> nik90: e.g. it doesn't handle http 302 moved instructions properly
[00:00] <nik90> Elleo: what's the c++ class we need to implement httprequests? I can take a look at the documents and see if I can implement a plugin or atleast make a start on it
[00:00] <nik90> Elleo: my c++ is a bit limited and this might be a good way to learn
[00:00] <Elleo> nik90: it ends up prepending any html 302 moved message to the start of the actual file after following the redirection, so it's no longer proper xml
[00:01] <Elleo> nik90: well we'd basically just be using straight forward qnetworkrequests
[00:01] <nik90> ok
[00:02] <Elleo> nik90: and then maybe something like qxmlsimplereader to parse the RSS
[00:03] <Elleo> not sure if that's the most flexible option, haven't done much XML parsing in Qt before
[00:03] <nik90> I guess the C++ implementation will also help fix some bugs we already have where certain podcasts show up with empty
[00:04] <Elleo> nik90: yeah, it'll certainly fix the one that gives us security errors, and any that use redirects (which is a bunch)
[00:05] <Elleo> nik90: an alternative approach to doing it in C++ might be to see if we can do something with an XmlListModel in QML
[00:06] <Elleo> nik90: that might be a little inflexible though, I haven't given it much thought
[00:06] <nik90> Elleo: ooh I have done that before in clock (long time back) ... but I guess if the network requests are done in c++, might as well build the model there as well
[00:11] <Elleo> nik90: well if we were using xmllistmodel it'd be doing the network requests for us
[00:12] <Elleo> nik90: and it does that asynchronously
[00:12] <nik90> but it doesn't do authentication though
[00:12] <Elleo> nik90: ah good point, in that case c++ is the way to go
[00:41] <liuxg> nik90, I found if I got the wrong"Screen.width" by using "import QtQuick.Window 2.0". I called it in the "Component.onCompleted" in the MainView.
[00:42] <liuxg> nik90, if I call it in the MouseArea, the value becomes correct. what is the issue here?
[06:15] <davidcalle> Good morning all
[06:57] <dholbach> good morning
[08:33] <DanChapman> morning all
[10:32] <bzoltan_> Saviq: tvoss: the SIGTERM is handled and it does clear the state date, what is persistant only in case of SIGINT
[10:49] <Saviq> bzoltan_, yeah, but in case apps need to do something special when the user closes them, do they get the notice?
[10:49] <Saviq> like is there QML api for that?
[11:22] <bzoltan_> Saviq: I do not know about such API and I do not think that apps can capture these signals
[11:23] <bzoltan_> Saviq: such API would make sense, so feel free to file a bug or add a card to the sdk trello
[11:23] <Saviq> bzoltan_, will do
[11:24] <bzoltan_> Saviq: but do not expect it in the following 2-3 weeks :) we have loads of critical issues on our hands right now
[11:24] <Saviq> bzoltan_, sure, it's just a "let's not forget..." thing
[11:29] <Saviq> bzoltan_, bug #1447566
[11:30] <bzoltan_> Saviq: thanks
[12:02] <dpm> mardy, can you join us on #ubuntu-touch-meeting for the dekko meeting?
[12:28] <Silex> zsombi: ping
[12:42] <Silex> zsombi: I'm trying to find the cause of https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-clock-app/+bug/1442518, trying to find out wether it's because of the clock app or because of the AlarmModel, and I thought you might be able to quickly answer that question
[12:43] <zsombi> Silex: trying to get to the line you pointed, but LP doesn't seem to be friendly now...
[12:43] <zsombi> Silex: I'm talking about the line you talked on ubuntu-touch
[12:44] <Silex> zsombi: the line I pointed is a dead end I think, I'm just reading the code and didn't realise it was comparing QDateTime objects
[12:44] <Silex> thought "hey if it compares strictly dates (without time) then there's our bug"
[12:44] <zsombi> Silex: yeah, I just wanted to be sure that I'm not saying bulshit before I answer :)
[12:45] <Silex> zsombi: anyway, I see there's tests already... why not add one that tests the case for the bug?
[12:45] <Silex> this will quickly answer if it's in the clock app or in AlarmModel
[12:45] <Silex> and help a long way in the binary-search :)
[12:46] <zsombi> Silex: enabling an alarm with a wrong date won't move the date in service for sure
[12:47] <zsombi> Silex: as if the date checking fails, it will stop saving
[12:49] <Silex> zsombi: yeah but... look at the first comment in the bug report... _get_next_active_alarm() looks rather bug free. Maybe the bug is around it and still in the Clock app. I guess this will need to wait until I'm home and work out how to run the debugger in the SDK
[12:50] <Silex> I'll ping you if it turns out that the bug is indeed in the AlarmModel
[12:51] <zsombi> Silex: I have to disappoint you, but if you declare two datetimes one after each other, the earlier created one will be less than teh second one... the milliseconds do count as well. Alarms service "normalizes" the date by removing the milliseconds from it
[12:52] <ts__> Hello all, could anyone guide me using swipe panel in qml.
[12:52] <zsombi> Silex: also, AlarmModel is just a proxy interface, the alarms are handled by the Alarm itself
[12:53] <zsombi> Silex: can you point me to teh code which enables the alarm?
[12:54] <nik90> zsombi: one sec, let me get that
[12:54] <Silex> zsombi: afaik it's http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-clock-dev/ubuntu-clock-app/utopic-3.0/view/head:/app/alarm/AlarmUtils.qml
[12:55] <Silex> see _get_next_active_alarm()
[12:55] <nik90> zsombi, Silex https://bazaar.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-clock-dev/ubuntu-clock-app/utopic-3.0/view/head:/app/alarm/AlarmDelegate.qml#L93
[12:55] <nik90> Silex: I just realized that's not the function
[12:55] <nik90> Silex: that function is only called in the bottom edge
[12:55] <Silex> nik90: haha! your link is very interesting
[12:55] <Silex> tomorrow.setDate(tomorrow.getDate() + 1)
[12:56] <Silex> this smells like our bug
[12:56] <zsombi> told ya
[12:56] <nik90> zsombi: we are just exploring all possibilities :)
[12:56] <zsombi> nik90: I know ;P
[12:57] <Silex> alright, time to make a patch :)
[12:57] <Silex> thanks for the infos zsombi
[12:57] <zsombi> Silex: yw
[12:57] <ts__> swipe panel in qml..any help?
[12:57] <nik90> Silex: btw do you have a reliable way to reproduce this bug (against which this patch can be tested against?)
[12:58] <mcphail> nik90: it is the cinderella bug: only breaks after midnight
[12:58] <Silex> nik90: other than my phone after midnight, no. But if there are tests this is easy to reproduce
[12:58] <nik90> Silex: so if I create an alarm now for 06:00 AM tomorrow and disable it. If I enable it after midnight I should be able to reproduce it, right?
[12:59] <nik90> Silex: well the line of code that I linked above can be converted into a JS function that we can have a qml test for
[12:59] <Silex> nik90: just write a test that creates a disabled stored alarm at 3am, set the current time to 1am, and enable the alarm, then assert the time to next alarm != 2h
[13:00] <Silex> err, ==
[13:00] <nik90> yes
[13:00] <Silex> the repo doens't seem to have test tho
[13:00] <nik90> Silex: it does, let me grab the link
[13:01] <nik90> Silex: https://bazaar.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-clock-dev/ubuntu-clock-app/utopic-3.0/files/head:/tests/
[13:01] <nik90> Silex: alarmUtils unit tests can be found in https://bazaar.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-clock-dev/ubuntu-clock-app/utopic-3.0/view/head:/tests/unit/tst_alarmUtils.qml
[13:02] <Silex> nik90: good
[13:03] <Silex> tst_alarm.qml only does very basic creation/editing tests
[13:04] <Silex> I guess we'll add some test_03_enable_alarm()
[13:04] <nik90> ack.
[13:06] <Silex> alright, I noted all these info but now I need to be home to actually start writing code. Will update the ticket when done. Thank you all
[13:06] <nik90> Silex: cool, looking forward to the patch
[13:07] <ts__> How to make swipe panel work..QML..
[13:13] <akiva-thinkpad> zbenjamin, ping. Just letting you know I'm online atm, working through the email you sent me.
[13:14] <zbenjamin> akiva-thinkpad: cool, already missed you here :)
[13:22] <akiva-thinkpad> zbenjamin, heh thanks
[13:33] <akiva-thinkpad> Just a little bit curious... how is ubuntu touch on battery, and how much would it be improved if we used darker themes, given that white pixels use more electricity?
[13:38] <Silex> akiva-thinkpad: Aquaris 4.5 from BQ lasts less than 4h when used heavily (e.g tower defense game), around 24h if you use it normally and 3 days if you never touch it
[13:38] <Silex> that's my experience so far
[13:38] <balloons> akiva-thinkpad, ping ping!
[13:39] <brendand_> akiva-thinkpad, actually the opposite is true
[13:41] <akiva-thinkpad> balloons, pong pong
[13:41] <akiva-thinkpad> brendand_, light pixels use less electricity?
[13:41] <balloons> akiva-thinkpad, hey, I've been curious about your autopilot plugin for the SDK and haven't been able to get ahold of you. It's nice to see your irc handle around again :-)
[13:42] <brendand_> akiva-thinkpad, well yes and no
[13:42] <akiva-thinkpad> balloons, heh, well i must apologize. being pacific time, you guys get up at midnight, and get off work at 8 am
[13:42] <brendand_> akiva-thinkpad, if the pixel is completely off it will use no electricity
[13:42] <akiva-thinkpad> brendand_, hmmm
[13:43] <brendand_> akiva-thinkpad, there is no real powersaving from using a darker theme
[13:43] <akiva-thinkpad> :O
[13:43] <balloons> akiva-thinkpad, ahh no worries at all.. Timezones make things hard!
[13:43] <balloons> akiva-thinkpad, anyways when you get a moment, let's talk about the plugin
[13:43] <akiva-thinkpad> balloons, well working on it now, good of time as ever
[13:58] <balloons> akiva-thinkpad, how can I play around with it? How can I help out? I'm keen to see what it can do. The idea is for you to be able to run autopilot tests without leaving the SDK right?
[13:59] <akiva-thinkpad> balloons, exactly.
[13:59] <balloons> akiva-thinkpad, also, as UOS is coming up, do you think this would make for a good demo? We have a show and tell track for 5-10 min demos, I think this would be a good one if you are interested in demoing it
[13:59] <akiva-thinkpad> sec, you can actually help me with a little mistake I made, when I removed myself as the driver of the project and putting it to the sdk team
[13:59] <akiva-thinkpad> yah that sounds like fun
[14:00] <akiva-thinkpad> here I'll grab the lp.
[14:01] <akiva-thinkpad> balloons, https://launchpad.net/qtcreator-plugin-autopilot
[14:01] <akiva-thinkpad> the I'll have to push the latest revision so the .pro file can build the plugin properly. bzoltan_ recently changed it around to get it prepped for debian packaging.
[14:04] <akiva-thinkpad> Hey I'm trying to compile the calculator app, and Its failing here: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/10871529/
[14:05] <akiva-thinkpad> something to do with the translations. This is a new install of 15.04
[14:06] <balloons> akiva-thinkpad, excellent. Propose the session here, and choose 'show and tell' track. http://summit.ubuntu.com/uos-1505/propose_meeting/
[14:09] <kunal> balloons, those two MR fails randomly
[14:09] <kunal> sometime pass and some time fails
[14:09] <balloons> kunal, sorry I missed the MR's, can you re-link>
[14:09] <kunal> sure
[14:09] <kunal> https://code.launchpad.net/~pkunal-parmar/ubuntu-calendar-app/WeekNumber/+merge/255078
[14:10] <kunal> https://code.launchpad.net/~pkunal-parmar/ubuntu-calendar-app/TapToCreateEvent/+merge/254175
[14:10] <balloons> akiva-thinkpad, can you add a readme that tells you how to test this out on the SDK?
[14:12] <akiva-thinkpad> balloons, sure. Could you put me as the driver of the project again so I can merge code :)
[14:12] <akiva-thinkpad> or add me to the sdk team
[14:12] * balloons lacks superpowers
[14:13] <akiva-thinkpad> okay I'll poke zbenjamin
[14:14] <balloons> bzoltan_, zbenjamin could one of you switch the driver for https://launchpad.net/qtcreator-plugin-autopilot so non-SDK folks can commit to it again?
[14:16] <akiva-thinkpad> lol thanks
[14:50] <aquarius> bzoltan_, can I install newer versions of the SDK on Ubuntu 14.04 desktop?
[14:51] <aquarius> (or anyone else who knows, of course)
[14:51] <aquarius> chrisccoulson, just thought you'd like to know, I busted out the Bq in the pub the other day and pointed it at html5test... highest score of any phone in the group. Rock :)
[14:51] <chrisccoulson> aquarius, brilliant :)
[14:52] <akiva-thinkpad> aquarius, I don't think you can get all the new libraries as easy.
[14:52] <aquarius> I almost died of smug poisoning
[14:52] <aquarius> chrisccoulson, on the other hand, then the whole thing hung and I had to restart, so all is not perfect ;)
[14:52] <aquarius> akiva-thinkpad, that's what I was worried about, but I thought I'd ask bzoltan_ in the hope that I'm wrong :P
[14:53] <chrisccoulson> aquarius, the phone or the browser?
[14:53] <akiva-thinkpad> aquarius, 15.04 is a good release :)
[14:53] <aquarius> chrisccoulson, phone. :P
[14:53] <chrisccoulson> aquarius, aha, that's ok then :)
[14:54] <aquarius> akiva-thinkpad, I daresay it is. I'm happy with the LTS. And developing for the phone should not require me to run a developer or interim release, in my opinion. :) I have the emulator, but it'd be nice not to have to use it.
[14:55] <akiva-thinkpad> aquarius, well it depends what kind of development. Like for example when I had to build the latest QtCreator from source, I had to update my distro because the library version needed was only available in 15.04.
[14:56] <aquarius> akiva-thinkpad, ah, sure, yeah; if you're developing the platform itself then certainly running the latest release is the best idea!
[14:56] <aquarius> I am not. :)
[14:56] <akiva-thinkpad> So maybe not. Still a good idea though.
[15:02] <nik90> aquarius: we're in the same boat
[15:06] <aquarius> nik90, yeah. And I can't get beru to run in the emulator, for reasons I don't understand :
[15:06] <aquarius> hence wondering, can't I just do this on the desktop#?
[15:07] <nik90> aquarius: you could set up a lxc container and try that out
[15:07] * aquarius winces
[15:07] <aquarius> actually, no, I couldn't, could I?
[15:07] <aquarius> because the relevant bits of the SDK aren't there
[15:07] <aquarius> when I *run* it
[15:08] <aquarius> can I *run* something in a chroot?
[15:09] * akiva-thinkpad is a chroot newb
[15:11] <balloons> akiva-thinkpad, so how can I try out the plugin until you can otherwise commit a readme to the source? can you put something into your personal +junk branch for me to see?
[15:13] <nik90> aquarius: well I did run dekko and clock app tests using a lxc container at oone point..but it is quite some work to get gui apps up and running
[15:13] <aquarius> yeah. that sounds like a vicious faff
[15:13] <Silex> nik90: do you have some link about how to quickly setup an lxc container? I'm used to docker, and atm I just want to apt-get install some stuffs without breaking everything
[15:14] <akiva-thinkpad> balloons, i'll push and send you the branch. you just need to get the dev version of qt creator from the repos, build the .pro file, and set the executable to /usr/bin/qtcreator
[15:14] <akiva-thinkpad> sec
[15:15] <balloons> akiva-thinkpad, if you can put that all nicely together in the readme for the branch, that would be lovely!
[15:15] <balloons> assume I know nothing :-)
[15:16] <akiva-thinkpad> balloons, well do
[15:17] <nik90> Silex: http://nik90.com/fiddling-around-with-lxc-containers/ ..
[15:17] <Silex> nik90: thanks
[15:18] <DanChapman> Silex: I had goodsuccess with docker and the SDK to develop dekko, something like this works pretty good https://bitbucket.org/snippets/dekkoproject/j88X
[15:18] * balloons sees another demo here
[15:18] <balloons> *wink* *wink*
[15:19] <DanChapman> oh yeah!!! damn I forgot to register a session
[15:19] <nik90> DanChapman: that's your cue :P
[15:19] <Silex> DanChapman: yeah, I was more talking about running it *on my phone*
[15:19] <Silex> using apt-get on the phone is not recommanded
[15:19] <Silex> thought I could fool around by doing it in a lxc container
[15:20] <nik90> Silex: oh
[15:20] <Silex> on the desktop I just use docker
[15:21] <nik90> that's beyond what I know..may be some platform devs like ogra_ or sergiusens can probably help you there
[15:21] <Silex> DanChapman: any advantages on running the ubuntu SDK in a docker? I don't quite see it
[15:21] <Silex> DanChapman: I can see the advantage of wanting to box chromium but the ubuntu sdk?
[15:22] <mcphail> Silex: might keep all those nasty chroots out of the mount lists
[15:23] <DanChapman> Silex: to be able create ubuntu apps with the latest SDK on non 14.10/15.04 desktops
[15:24] <Silex> DanChapman: right, I run 14.10 I didn't think of the other desktops
[15:24] <Silex> mcphail's argument is interesting too
[15:34] <mzanetti> popey, meeting?
[15:34] <mzanetti> we've got a guest today :)
[15:34] <popey> oh, sorry. doing 3 things at once.
[15:43] <akiva-thinkpad> balloons, https://code.launchpad.net/~akiva/qtcreator-plugin-autopilot/qtcreator-plugin-autopilot
[15:43] <akiva-thinkpad> I put the instructions [hastily] into the changelog.
[15:44] <akiva-thinkpad> and that was before it dawned on me that you wanted a readme .txt file. I'll do that tomorrow I guess :)
[15:44] <akiva-thinkpad> anyways I have to head out.
[15:45] <akiva-thinkpad> cheers everyone
[15:49] <ogra_> Silex, you can download http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-core/releases/vivid/release/ubuntu-core-15.04-core-armhf.tar.gz and untar it to /home/phablet ... then enable ssh with: android-gadget-service enable ssh ... then you can ssh localhost from the terminal app and use the unpacked tarball as chroot to work in
[15:49] <ogra_> (indeed with some ssh key setup and so on)
[15:59] <Silex> ogra_: thanks!
[15:59] <Silex> so plain chroot, okay
[15:59] <ogra_> well, i have never tried with lxc ... might work
[16:00] <karni> I can't find where 'PopupUtils.open' is documented, and it's all over our examples.
[16:00] <ogra_> the essential bit is the ssh phablet@localhost bit
[16:00] <ogra_> the plain terminal-app is to restrictive to run chroots
[16:04] <nik90> karni: yes that's indeed a undocumented part of the SDK.
[16:04] <nik90> karni: what I did in the past was to look at PopupUtils.js (I think) code in the sdk source tree
[16:04] <nik90> karni: let me grab the link for you if I can find it
[16:05] <karni> nik90: I guess I'm left with that. I'm having problems accessing variables when using them to populate dialog text, etc, I think they're out of scope.
[16:05] <karni> nik90: /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/qt5/qml/Ubuntu/Components/Popups/internalPopupUtils.js
[16:05] <nik90> karni: indeed they are...what I did there was do -> var varName = Qt.binding( function ({ return model.name}) )
[16:05] <karni> nik90: I suppose that's that?
[16:06] <nik90> karni: yes
[16:06] <karni> nik90: thank you :)
[16:06] <nik90> yw
[16:07] <nik90> karni: actually https://bazaar.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-sdk-team/ubuntu-ui-toolkit/trunk/view/head:/modules/Ubuntu/Components/Popups/popupUtils.js
[16:07] <karni> thank you
[16:07] <nik90> not internalPopupUtils.js
[16:07] <karni> will have a look
[16:07] <karni> oh, that's small
[16:35] <karni> nik90: is anything obviously wrong here? http://paste.ubuntu.com/10872495/
[16:35] <karni> nik90: the text property is not resolved when I see the dialog
[16:47] <karni> zbenjamin: hey bro, I'd like to bring this issue to attention of the SDK team. it's not the first time I see timer being used as a workaround (and I was forced to do it similarily myself, though in different cases) http://askubuntu.com/questions/282629/how-to-display-popup-dialog-after-app-start
[17:05] <sverzegnassi> karni, FWIW, just an idea: why not expose the Dialog as JS var, while loading it though PopupUtils.open()? i.e. http://paste.ubuntu.com/10872666/
[17:07] <karni> sverzegnassi: yes, thank you for your response. I talked to nik90, and he suggested the same way, so I'm following that right now.
[17:07] <sverzegnassi> karni: ah ok, good to hear you solved it! :-)
[17:08] <karni> sverzegnassi: cheers :)
[17:38] <zbenjamin> karni: hey, you asking the wrong guy :D zsombi, t1mp or kalikiana hack on the UiTK i do 99,9% the tools
[17:38] <karni> zbenjamin: I forgot who does uitk and found you hanging out here haha :D
[17:38] <zbenjamin> :D
[17:38] <karni> zsombi: t1mp: hey bros, I'd like to bring this issue to attention of the SDK team. it's not the first time I see timer being used as a workaround (and I was forced to do it similarily myself, though in different cases) http://askubuntu.com/questions/282629/how-to-display-popup-dialog-after-app-start
[17:41] <t1mp> karni: interesting
[17:42] <t1mp> karni: I wonder if the onCompleted is really called
[17:42] <t1mp> karni: or perhaps when onCompleted is triggered, the Rectangle parent is not yet set. Then the popup will fail to open because it uses the parent of the Rectangle to find the root window in which to show the popover
[17:43] <t1mp> karni: the second parameter of PopupUtils.open() is only there for the popover to point to that object. If you don't pass it, the popover will simply be centered in your window.
[17:43] <karni> t1mp: http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~libqtelegram-team/libqtelegram/telegram-app/view/head:/ui/DialogPage.qml#L843
[17:44] <karni> t1mp: sendPhotoTimer is right above. if I try to call the code that is in onTriggered directly, it won't work.
[17:44] <karni> if I use a timer, it works.
[17:44] <karni> t1mp: though this is not as trivial example as the first one, so I can't rule out other factors,
[17:45] <karni> t1mp: I could think when root component onComplete is called, UI tree is ready and visible, no?
[17:45] <karni> *would think
[17:49] <t1mp> karni: yes, I think so too, but this is not the root component
[17:51] <karni> well, regardless, if Component.onCompleted is called, one would think the rect is Complete, but you're suggesting it may not be visible yet?
[17:52] <t1mp> karni: I'm suggesting that the parent of Rectangle may not be completed yet
[17:52] <karni> ah, right
[17:53] <t1mp> karni: internally, the parent of the popover is set to the root item (because the popover can be positioned outside of the item that calls it)
[17:53] <t1mp> I'm not sure that this is the problem, but it could be it
[17:53] <t1mp> that would explain why it works with a timer
[17:54] <karni> yup, I think you're right t1mp
[17:54] <karni> if I ever see a timer used in similar case, I'll mention this
[17:55] <karni> (to the requestor, not here :) )
[17:55] <t1mp> karni: can you report a bug for this?
[17:55] <t1mp> karni: in https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubuntu-ui-toolkit
[17:55] <karni> sure, t1mp
[17:55] <t1mp> we should find a way to make it work
[17:55] <t1mp> thanks
[17:55] <karni> cheers
[17:57] <karni> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubuntu-ui-toolkit/+bug/1447735
[18:13] <akiva-thinkpad> zbenjamin, For the factory, I created it once at initialization, and I grab it with a static_cast from the object pool to add new run configurations. The memory leak is fixed, and is no longer creating those factories over and over again.
[18:13] <akiva-thinkpad> good catch :)
[18:19] <ant400468> hi all, what is the command to execute for install an html5 app on ubuntu phone (locally)? the app is copied in /tmp dir with extension .click. thank you
[18:19] <akiva-thinkpad> hi ant400468 o/
[18:19] * akiva-thinkpad is not an html5 dev
[18:19] <ant400468> hi
[18:20] <ant400468> here? this chat?
[18:20] <akiva-thinkpad> popey, do you know?
[18:20] <ant400468> no
[18:20] <akiva-thinkpad> ant400468, this is chat :) Come and stay awhile
[18:20] <ant400468> what is popey, is a food? i joke
[18:20] <akiva-thinkpad> ha
[18:20] <nik90> well since it is a click package, installing it should be similar to other click package installation
[18:21] <nik90> pkcon install-local --allow-untrusted path/to/click
[18:21] <ant400468> how?
[18:21] <nik90> ^^
[18:21] <ant400468> thank you a lot nik
[18:21] <nik90> ant400468: yw
[18:21] <akiva-thinkpad> nik90, btw before I go; what are you thinking of doing for the online summit? I wouldnt mind joining you again on hangouts
[18:21] <ant400468> and after i will see it in app scope, its true?
[18:22] <ant400468> i try
[18:22] <nik90> akiva-thinkpad: I haven't decided really..although I will be joining stuart on the Ubuntu Component Store again
[18:22] <nik90> ant400468: just pull to refresh the app scope and u should see it
[18:22] <ant400468> thank you again
[18:22] <nik90> akiva-thinkpad: there is already a session planned for that on the may 6th in the evening
[18:22] <akiva-thinkpad> nik90, oh yah! Sheesh, been out of qml for so long, havn't contributed anything to it ;_;
[18:22] <om26er_> Elleo, Hi!
[18:22] <nik90> akiva-thinkpad: stuart made it even easier now with the community store
[18:22] <akiva-thinkpad> I look forward to it!
[18:23] <nik90> akiva-thinkpad: submitting now is as easy as "ucs submit launchpad-branch" !
[18:23] <om26er_> Elleo, How can I reproduce bug 1444947 without twitter. Right now twitter webapp seems to be broken.
[18:23] <akiva-thinkpad> awesome
[18:23] <Elleo> om26er_: it'll happen in the browser same as in the webapp
[18:23] <Elleo> om26er_: if you go to http://mobile.twitter.com/
[18:23] <nik90> akiva-thinkpad: I will post on r/ubuntuappdev of all interesting session when I get a better idea later..
[18:24] <Elleo> om26er_: alternatively any username/password field that allows free text in the username field (so not email fields, etc.) will also trigger it
[18:25] <om26er_> Elleo, mobile.twitter.com does not open as well :D I'll try facebook
[18:26] <Elleo> om26er_: I think facebook might set hints on their username field that disable preedit (not certain though)
[18:27] <Elleo> om26er_: but basically any username field that shows the word ribbon (so words get placed into preedit) should work
[18:27] <akiva-thinkpad> nik90, very cool. Alright I'm off; see you all around
[18:27] <nik90> akiva-thinkpad: see you
[18:28] <ant400468> thank you very much nik your command work well, well done
[18:31] <nik90> ant400468: cool, have fun
[18:31] <om26er_> Elleo, reddit.com worked. :) how can I verify bug 1445532 ?
[18:32] <Elleo> om26er_: there's instructions in the first comment on this MR: https://code.launchpad.net/~michael-sheldon/ubuntu-keyboard/custom-plugin-paths/+merge/256285
[18:41] <ant400468> nik90 thanks i switching from iphone 6 128 GB and is a lot hard search all i needed, but ubuntu is ubuntu and at least one chance i have to give it!
[18:42] <david_________> Bonsoir, un francophone sur le chat ?
[18:42] <nik90> ant400468: Do keep in mind that it is a first-generation software and is only bound to get better over time. You should really take a look at iPhone1 or Android 1.0 and see their limitations when they came out.
[18:42] <nik90> ant400468: that said, facing any issue or stuck somewhere, feel free to raise questions
[18:42] <nik90> ant400468: someone might come along and help you out ;)
[18:50] <ant400468> nik90 yes yes i mean, i remember, for being a first version was a great start, my soul is open source, i' m a java/j2ee/grails/groovy developer 8 years old. that's why i have to at least try. if i can help someone i do it kindly :) the problem is the time, the work take a lot of the daytime :)
[18:55] <ant400468> thank you again and sorry for my english, i'm an italian boy :) i will back soon here, hear it! bye
[19:01] <david_________> salut ! je cherche un peu d'aide en francais !
[19:07] <davidcalle> david_________, ?
[19:08] <davidcalle> Salut, quel est le souci ?
[20:29] <rickspencer3> has anyone seen this issue: when I use a popover, the titles and toolbars for my tabs disappear after closing it
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2015-04-23-#ubuntu-devel
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[00:19] <mhall119> cjwatson: thanks, I didn't know that
[00:19] * mhall119 has corrected it now
[00:20] <cjwatson> mhall119: great, thanks
[00:23] <mhall119> YokoZar: have you looked to see what it would take to make wine talk natively to Mir?
[06:57] <dholbach> good morning
[08:03] <pitti> Good morning
[08:03] <pitti> roaksoax: it does, what's wrong in your particular case?
[08:17] <larsu> morning!
[08:18] <robert_ancell> larsu, good morning to you!
[08:18] <larsu> robert_ancell: thanks! How are you today?
[08:18] <robert_ancell> larsu, I am doing quite well, thank you for asking.
[08:41] <happyaron> Laney: can you approve ubuntukylin-wallpapers from the queue?
[08:41] <Laney> no
[08:41] <Laney> ask infinity, but seriously today is release day
[08:42] <happyaron> Laney: yes seriously
[08:42] <happyaron> infinity: ping
[08:54] <infinity> happyaron: yes?
[08:54] <happyaron> infinity: can you approve ubuntukylin-wallpapers from the queue? (and a respin of the ubuntukylin image as well, I know it's very late, but they said yes)
[08:55] <infinity> happyaron: Oh dear. That upload is very, very late. Are you prepared to re-test both Kylin ISOs Very Very Very Very quickly if we push that through and rebuild?
[08:55] <happyaron> infinity: yes
[08:55] <happyaron> infinity: there are people prepared
[08:55] * happyaron actually getting those updates hours ago
[08:55] <infinity> happyaron: I was planning on pushing to mirrors literally in the next half hour, so Kylin will end up behind that. But I don't want it to be any more than, say, 4 or 5 hours from now.
[08:56] <happyaron> understand
[08:57] <rbasak> infinity: [bug 1434758] done.
[08:57] <rbasak> (release noted)
[08:58] <infinity> rbasak: Ta.
[10:21] <infinity> happyaron: Rebuilding the kylin ISOs now. Please make sure people are ready to test as soon as they spit out the other end of the sausage factory.
[10:26] <happyaron> ok
[11:48] <Laney> happy distribution data outdated day
[12:19] <roaksoax> pitti: howdy! so I upgraded to vivid yesterday and it wont boot :)
[12:20] <roaksoax> pitti: i took a pic of it, having filed a bug or checked this is due to the systemd unit we saw yesterday
[12:20] <roaksoax> pitti: but I;ll send it your way before i file a bug and / or investigate if it is due to that
[12:26] <pitti> roaksoax: ah, do you have that broken dhcp unit installed? that will make it not boot indeed
[12:27] <roaksoax> pitti: i think i do, I have not investigated just yet. But will do during the course of the day!
[12:27] <pitti> roaksoax: so boot with upstart once, remove the faulty unit, boot back
[12:27] <roaksoax> pitti: it won't event boot recovery boot
[12:27] <pitti> roaksoax: I have teh fix uploaded to the SRU queue
[12:28] <roaksoax> pitti: awesome!
[12:28] <pitti> roaksoax: that'll just reject the unit and complain about the garbage at the end
[12:28] <pitti> but not spill its guts
[12:29] <roaksoax> pitti: ok cool!
[12:29] <pitti> roaksoax: or better yet, instead of removing the unit, just remove the faulty space and it should be all good :)
[12:30] <roaksoax> pitti: indeed :)
[12:42] <pitti> roaksoax: got your photo; that's for sure the trailing space after \ from yesterday
[12:43] <roaksoax> pitti: ok, cool! thanks!
[13:00] <shadeslayer> uh, can anyone expand a bit more on the move to snappy for the desktop bits ?
[13:00] <ogra_> shadeslayer, ask #snappy ... or #ubuntu-desktop ;)
[13:02] <roaksoax> pitti: this doesn't seem to work, does it? http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/10871205/
[13:03] <ScottK> ogra_: That'd be something with a little broader impact than just Ubuntu desktop.
[13:03] <pitti> roaksoax: if pre_start is something executable, it should work; what does systemctl status say?
[13:03] <ogra_> ScottK, why ?
[13:04] <roaksoax> pitti: let me reinstall
[13:04] <ogra_> ScottK, nobody will stop the old stuff from being relevant ...
[13:04] <ScottK> Because every single flavor uses things in common with Ubuntu Desktop.
[13:04] <shadeslayer> ^^ why I'm interested
[13:05] <ogra_> ScottK, and that wont go away ...
[13:11] <pitti> roaksoax: (also, there's something really wrong with piling up lots of shell into upstart scripts or systemd units, but let's worry about that next cycle)
[13:12] <pitti> shadeslayer: debs won't go away anytime soon -- after all, we need to build things like server, phone, or snappy itself from something; but I figure the install "products" may move to becoming snaps/frameworks instead of today's isos
[13:12] <shadeslayer> hm
[13:13] * shadeslayer makes a note to track the UOS session for this
[13:26] <infinity> happyaron: We tested your 1386/amd64 ISOs here, and they seem to be fine.
[13:28] <roaksoax> pitti: figured it out, missing ';'
[13:40] <pitti> infinity: autocmd FileType changelog,python :setlocal expandtab
[15:25] <infinity> @pilot out
[17:55] <ogra_> jodh, around ?
[17:55] <ogra_> jodh, we have a small prob on the phones, seems upstart segfaults and pushes them into a reboot loop ... http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/10872934/
[18:12] <YokoZar> mhall119: No, and I don't have a volunteer to even investigate wine->mir at this point. Unless you want to give mlankhorst company time to do it :)
[18:28] <happyaron> infinity: thanks! late reply on laptop though
[18:28] <happyaron> infinity: is participating the celebration at blue fin
[19:50] <tjaalton> YokoZar: that would be intel's time, so maybe not :)
[21:27] <dobey> is the 'lxcguest' package supposed to exist somewhere? lxc-create is complaining about it and failing, trying to create a vivid lxc on a newly installed trusty host, for me
[23:49] <sarnold> infinity: "Qt updated to version XX"
[23:49] <sarnold> infinity: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/VividVervet/ReleaseNotes
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2015-04-23-#ubuntu-ops
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[15:19] <Pici> quiet release day
[15:20] <Pici> then again, I "forgot" to join -release-party
[15:24] <Pici> need to update the factoids
[15:24] <popey> yeah
[15:24] <popey> can we get rid of this one.. amusing as it was the first time..
[15:24] <popey> 16:23 < ubottu> Did I SAY it was out? Maybe if you would LISTEN once in a while this relationship would be healthier.
[15:25] <IdleOne> !no isitout is <reply> Not yet.
[15:25] <Pici> !isitout-#ubuntu-release-party
[15:25] <Pici> ...
[15:26] <Pici> !no isitout is <reply> YES! ITS OUT: https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-announce/2015-April/000195.html
[15:26] <IdleOne> oh it is?
[15:26] <IdleOne> sorry
[15:26] <IdleOne> I didn't even no it was release day
[15:26] * Pici hits IdleOne with chu
[15:26] <chu> :D
[15:26] * IdleOne takes the hit
[15:26] <IdleOne> licky I like you both
[15:27] <IdleOne> lucky too
[15:27] <chu> Licky licky ^^
[15:42] <U1510nameseeker> Channel topic needs updating
[15:43] <Pici> U1510nameseeker: done, th
[15:43] <Pici> Anyway, I don't have enough rights to update the configs. I've emailed jussi and tsimpson about it, hopefully they can just grant me the rights so we don't need to keep bugging them.
[16:24] <k1l_> /slap Pici :)
[16:25] <k1l_> ich think we need a drone trigger for "<Pici> 70" :)
[16:25] <Pici> I need to make a thing here so that it just ignores it when I type that
[16:33] <Pici> /trigger add -send_text -stop -regex '^70$'
[18:32] <bazhang> !isitout
[18:56] <IdleOne> !no isitout-#ubuntu-release-party is <reply> YES! ITS OUT: https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-announce/2015-April/000195.html
[18:56] <IdleOne> genii: fixed
[18:56] <Pici> why do we have separate factoids for the release party channel?
[18:57] <IdleOne> not sure
[18:58] <Pici> I'm going to clean it up
[18:58] <IdleOne> but I think if you !forget isitout-#ubuntu-release-party it will use !isitout
[18:59] <Pici> indeed
[19:01] <genii> I added it as a separate one because I was in the habit of making separate factoids for other channels like +1
[19:06] <IdleOne> bynarie: Please don't idle in this channel
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2024-05-13T22:11:16.904048
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2015-04-23-#ubuntu-arm
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[12:38] <ts_> Hello all. Could anyone guide me using swipe panel in qml.
[12:38] <ogra_> ts_, probably someone in #ubuntu-app-devel
[12:38] <ts_> Thanks ogra_ !
[12:39] <ts_> Quickest reply I ever had on irc :).
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2024-05-13T22:11:16.905214
| 2015-04-23T00:00:00 |
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2015-04-23-#ubuntu-us-oh
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[02:43] <Unit193> It's snowing.
[02:44] <Unit193> No really, snow.
[02:44] <Unit193> Temp: 37 F (3 C) ~ Overcast ~ Windchill: 32 F (0 C) ~ Humidity: 62% ~ Observed: Wed 22, 21:52
[02:44] <yano> wat
[02:44] <yano> nowat
[02:44] <yano> no*way
[02:44] <yano> .wx-wg 43210
[02:44] <jenni> Cover: Mostly Cloudy, Temp: 37.0°F (2.8°C), Dew Point: 29°F (-2°C), Humdity: 73%, Feels Like: 37°F (3°C), Pressure: [↑] 29.91in (1013mb), Wind: From the North at 0.0 mph (0 kmh), Location: University View, Columbus, Ohio, Last Updated: April 22, 10:44 PM EDT, (Powered by wunderground.com)
[02:44] <Unit193> Really.
[02:44] <yano> .snow 43210
[02:44] <jenni> (☃)
[02:44] <jenni> No
[02:44] <yano> that stupid API never sees snow, lol
[02:44] <Unit193> I was just out in it.
[02:45] <Unit193> yano: Thought about adding fw to my weather script, but not sure how many uses it'd ever get. :P
[02:45] <yano> heh
[02:45] <Unit193> .fw akron,ohio
[02:45] <jenni> THE FUCKING SITE DOESN'T CONTAIN ANY FUCKING INFORMATION ABOUT THE FUCKING WEATHER FOR THE PROVIDED FUCKING LOCATION. FUCK!
[04:45] <jackson> o/
[04:45] <jackson> hi dzho
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2015-04-23-#launchpad
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[07:59] <mpt> Another day, another message from Launchpad telling me that someone I’ve never heard of has given me access to their PPA
[08:00] <mpt> Does Launchpad let you personalize the message when you give someone PPA access?
[11:29] <steve> hello #launchpad
[11:30] <steve> just wondering if somebody can clarify/confirm some unexpected behaviour for me please
[11:30] <steve> i was looking at bug on ubuntu launchpad earlier, and (accidentally) changed it from public to private
[11:30] <steve> (i changed it back)
[11:30] <steve> but it struck me as odd that i could do this, given it wasn't my bug
[11:30] <steve> is that meant to happen?
[11:41] * mdeslaur is interested in hearing answer also
[12:26] <wgrant> steve, mdeslaur: It is intentional, and useful in emergencies.
[12:26] <wgrant> It should certainly be much harder to do accidentally.
[12:27] <steve> wgrant: interesting, thanks for the reply
[12:27] <steve> wgrant: to be fair, it was pretty easy to revert once i'd done it the first time ;-)
[12:27] <steve> but it did leave an embarrassing log in the bug
[12:27] <wgrant> Indeed.
[12:28] <wgrant> Accidental changes are unfortunate, but less unfortunate than having something be public that shouldn't be while you find someone who has perms to make it private.
[12:28] <mdeslaur> wgrant: so who is allowed to switch it back, anyone who is subscribed, or just the person who made it private?
[12:28] <steve> that makes good sense
[12:28] <wgrant> mdeslaur: Anyone who can see the bug can change its privacy.
[12:28] <mdeslaur> ah, sounds good
[12:28] <mdeslaur> thanks wgrant
[12:29] <mdeslaur> thanks steve for bringing it up
[12:29] <steve> mdeslaur: thanks for your help, sorry for tainting your bug history ;-)
[12:29] <mdeslaur> hahaha
[12:29] <mdeslaur> I FEEL DIRTY!
[12:29] <steve> hehe :)
[15:58] <tgm4883> What does "failed to upload" mean on a LP build?
[15:59] <tgm4883> https://launchpad.net/~mythbuntu/+archive/ubuntu/fixes-building/+build/7350066
[16:01] <maxb> it means look at the uploadlog for more info
[16:01] <cjwatson> in this case it looks like it coincided with a librarian outage
[16:01] <cjwatson> I suggest just retrying the build
[16:02] <tgm4883> cjwatson: will do
[22:58] <dreamcat4^> help. this is blocking me from tracking master branch ---> http://awesomescreenshot.com/0294upi646
[22:59] <dreamcat4^> i need launchpad to take code direct from github, for daily builds PPA (create .deb file)
[23:04] <cjwatson> dreamcat4^: Judging from the failure log in https://launchpad.net/~adamsutton/tvheadend/git, the other end has used submodules at some point in its history so it isn't going to work anyway. The most practical answer is likely to be to wait until Launchpad has Git mirroring and recipe support ...
[23:11] <dreamcat4^> cjwatson: thanks for investigating this.... so what if i could convince the tvheadend dev to re-push tvheadend without the submodules in it's git history ?
[23:12] <cjwatson> dreamcat4^: That's very unlikely, since it would require everyone to rebase. (And TBH I think it would be an unreasonable request.)
[23:12] <cjwatson> That sort of thing is very disruptive in Git.
[23:12] <dreamcat4^> cjwatson: ok. so do you have any estimate / timescale when launchpad may get it's new git mirroring and recipe support ?
[23:13] <cjwatson> dreamcat4^: We should be rolling out native Git support by the end of this month, hopefully. Mirroring and recipes will take a little longer and I don't have specific estimates for those, but they're not that difficult once the core stuff is in place.
[23:14] <cjwatson> dreamcat4^: Of course you don't actually *need* recipes, they're just a convenience to have Launchpad automatically assemble the source package for you.
[23:14] <cjwatson> dreamcat4^: But I can see that if you're trying to do daily builds they would be pretty useful.
[23:15] <dreamcat4^> cjwatson: ok. yes indeed that is the case. i could look into google compute engine (to build deb and upload it to LP)... but it's significantly more complex than doing a recipe
[23:16] <cjwatson> Indeed.
[23:16] <dreamcat4^> cjwatson: and not entirely sure i want to put my LP login credentials into some GCE config file
[23:16] <dreamcat4^> not that i've even looked into GCE yet.
[23:19] <cjwatson> No, quite. I wouldn't.
[23:22] <dreamcat4^> cjwatson: there are also post-commit webhooks on github. they can POST to a public URL, whenever new commits get pushed up to github
[23:25] <cjwatson> Aware, yes
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2015-04-23-#kubuntu
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[00:00] <toan__> when the user launches the app again, the app can be shown again and resume from the last working state
[00:01] <cuestion> hello folks.... do we know when KUBUNTU 15.04 will be downloadable? announced was 23th of april 2015 ?
[00:02] <toan__> cuestion, here http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/daily-live/current/
[00:04] <cuestion> thanks a lot...this is still the beta version or now the first "official3 version?
[00:05] <GunnDawg> cuestion: the "official release" will be tomorrow
[00:05] <GunnDawg> cuestion: You can download the latest rolling image which came out today, but the official release will be tomorrow. Things may or may not change between todays image and tomorrows
[00:06] <cuestion> ok....will it be the same link to dowload...or will it appear under DOWLOAD section of the home
[00:07] <GunnDawg> cuestion: I suspect it will be under the downloads section
[00:08] <cuestion> perfect so many thanks for your important work
[00:12] <valorie> cuestion: you can dl the daily then zsync to the final if you want
[00:12] <valorie> !zsync cuestion
[00:12] <valorie> oops
[00:12] <valorie> !zsync | cuestion
[00:14] <toan__> ubottu, where's the best place to get development and bug updates of kubuntu?
[00:17] <cuestion> so many thanks
[00:20] <valorie> toan__: add backports and perhaps beta ppa
[00:21] <valorie> basically you get everything you need if you just do your updates when the little shield appears in your taskbar
[00:21] <valorie> it's so good lately I hardly ever use the cli to update/upgrade anymore
[01:08] <GunnDawg> Out of curiosity. In the past, how much actually changed between the release day +1 (today) release, and the release day image (tomorrow)
[01:10] <valorie> hard to say
[01:10] <valorie> every release is different
[01:10] <GunnDawg> yeah
[01:10] <valorie> from our side, not much I think
[01:10] <GunnDawg> I'm just debating installing todays image out of boredom and nothing else to do on a Wednesday night, heh
[01:11] <JeZxLee> 15.04 is missing one of the panel widgets I use "Network Monitor" - will it come back soon in an update?
[01:11] <GunnDawg> JeZxLee: I suspect it will.
[01:11] <valorie> hmmm, I have a network widget
[01:12] <valorie> I don't recall ever losing that
[01:12] <GunnDawg> valorie: is it possible for me to do an in place upgrade from 14.04 to 15.04 (todays image) so I keep my installed programs? (skype, steam and steam games, etc, etc)?
[01:12] <valorie> JeZxLee: is it perhaps in the "hidden icons"?
[01:12] <valorie> GunnDawg: you'll have to upgrade to 14.10 and then to 15.04
[01:12] <valorie> hard to say if that's worth it
[01:13] <GunnDawg> valorie: yeah probably not eh
[01:13] <valorie> hidden icons is the little /\ thing
[01:14] <valorie> ooops, how did it get so late
[01:14] <valorie> gotta go....
[01:14] <GunnDawg> take care valorie
[02:35] <Joepine> lo everyone
[02:36] <Joepine> Anyone have an idea what time the new release will be made? :)
[02:36] <tuv0k> when it's ready
[02:36] <Joepine> thanks.
[02:36] <tuv0k> same question every six months, same answer
[02:38] <Joepine> interestingly enough the release date is set for the 23
[02:39] <tuv0k> and?
[02:40] <Joepine> that ascorbic character of yours must go down a treat
[02:41] <tuv0k> I don't get what yuo are trying to say?
[02:42] <tuv0k> #kubuntu-offtopic
[03:25] <lishang> hello all
[03:26] <lishang> 这里可以说中文吗？
[03:26] <Unit193> !cn | lishang
[03:26] <lishang> ok
[03:42] <JeZxLee> Yes! - oh sorry I got excited
[03:47] <massiveoni> heya, any sign of the full release of 15.04?
[03:47] <GunnDawg> massiveoni: releases tomorrow
[03:49] <massiveoni> ahh
[03:50] <massiveoni> ive seen that it releases on the 23rd, but it never said what time, or which timezone
[03:50] <massiveoni> lol, its noon on the 23rd for me
[03:51] <GunnDawg> they dont specify a time. It will be available for download on their site when it launches
[03:51] <massiveoni> yeah, i guess its a 'its done, when its done' thing
[03:55] <JeZxLee> UbuntuMATE 15.04 is kind of interesting, might check that out
[03:55] <JeZxLee> KDE is my favorite though
[04:13] <hpauyu> hi
[06:22] <aliman> good morning. guys i have a little problem. i use vlc for watching movies. i have some of the downloaded movies and the sound is not working. the intro has sound but when the movies actualy starts no sound
[06:24] <valorie> aliman: are you sure it isn't the file itself?
[06:24] <aliman> i dunno. it is the 2nd movies already. i hope i wont find more
[06:24] <valorie> also you might try with a different player such as dragon
[06:24] <valorie> which is actually ours
[06:25] <valorie> vlc is not a KDE application; that said, it should work
[06:26] <soee> maybe some codecs missing, do you have installed: kubuntu-restricted-extras ?
[06:27] <aliman> valorie, thxit is working with dragon. i think vlc is the prob
[06:27] <valorie> oh good thought, soee
[06:28] <aliman> sudo apt-get autoremoveshould remove unneeded files right?
[06:29] <valorie> yes
[06:29] <aliman> so if i use this command i dont need to go to home and show hidden files and delete what i dont need?
[06:30] <valorie> autoremove is better
[06:32] <aliman> thx
[07:16] <micmord> Since April I have a vivid Vbox daily upgraded. Now I got problem (again) with sddm, it takes several seconds to start and it freeze after few time (about a minute). Yesterday I tested a fresh install of 92413 iso and sddm works fine. Can anyone explain this?
[07:18] <valorie> there seemed to be some mystery situation between systemd and sddm
[07:18] <valorie> I'm glad it's fixed
[07:20] <micmord> Maybe the problem is on "virtualbox-guest-x11"
[07:20] <wldcordeiro> Sometimes I've noticed that when Kubuntu locks instead of showing the sddm lock screen it shows a different more plain one.
[07:21] <wldcordeiro> Also if you disable kwallet it doesn't really go away but now the wallet manager is broken. :(
[07:22] <valorie> I just heard that is fixed, wldcordeiro
[07:22] <valorie> but it won't get into today's release of course
[07:22] <wldcordeiro> The lock screen or kwallet valorie ?
[07:22] <valorie> kwallet
[07:22] <valorie> migration at least
[07:41] <Naphatul> around what time will 15.04 be up?
[07:45] <lordievader> Good morning.
[07:47] <valorie> Naphatul: unknown
[07:47] <valorie> "today" is as much as we know
[07:53] <lordievader> It is released whenever it is ready and the announcement sent.
[08:19] <Mensfeld> Hi guys! At what time the 15.04 is going to be released?
[08:19] <lordievader> Vivid is released whenever it is ready and the announcement sent.
[08:20] <valorie> Mensfeld: when it's ready
[08:20] <valorie> oops, lordievader beat me
[08:20] <lordievader> Hihi, was still in my history ;)
[08:20] <valorie> good old up-arrow to the rescue
[08:21] <valorie> I'm distracted by the history of the Hubble space telescope I'm watching
[08:21] <valorie> such gorgeous images
[08:21] <valorie> I have a friend who programs for that project
[08:22] <lordievader> Whooo, link?
[08:22] <valorie> http://video.pbs.org/program/nova/
[08:22] <valorie> hopefully viewable outside the US
[08:23] <lordievader> Seems not :(
[08:23] <valorie> boo
[08:25] <valorie> perhaps your public TV stations will rebroadcast it
[08:25] <valorie> or something like it
[08:25] <lordievader> I doubt it.
[08:25] <valorie> :(
[08:26] <valorie> nova isn't always great, but this was a really good one
[08:28] * lordievader Vivid is released whenever it is ready and when the announcement is sent.
[08:28] <lordievader> That'll do I suppose. Set it to an alias :D
[08:28] <Unit193> /say, not /me
[08:29] <lordievader> Ah, it is /say, was looking for that XD
[08:29] <lordievader> That is better indeed.
[08:30] <lordievader> Thanks Unit193 :)
[08:30] <Unit193> Sure.
[09:17] <yossarianuk> really in 2 minds for my work desktop - Debian 8(KDE) or Kubuntu 15.04....
[09:17] <yossarianuk> home I have 15.04 and it is nice, few rough edges at present though.
[09:41] <aliman> guys how can i change my desktop wallpaper
[09:44] <aliman> anybody?
[09:45] <monkeyjuice> morning
[09:45] <mparillo> aliman: Right click on open desktop. Desktop settings?
[09:46] <aliman> mparillo, hmmm i only have 1 wallpaper there?
[09:48] <mparillo> So you can get new wall papers or open an existing image you have.
[10:05] <lazureus> Hi all, does anybody know which package I have to install to get Qt assistant for ver.5 in kubuntu 14.04 ?
[10:50] <bwowk> sooo...when is 15.04 coming?
[10:50] <bwowk> I'm so anxious
[10:51] <BluesKaj> Howdy all
[10:52] <bwowk> howdy
[11:04] <massiveoni> does anyone know, how long until 15.02 of kubuntu will be released? ive already downloaded the 15.04 of ubuntu, but i cant find kubuntu
[11:05] <massiveoni> sorry 15.04 not 02
[11:07] <BluesKaj> massiveoni, 15.04 here, http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/daily-live/current/
[11:08] <massiveoni> im downloading that one now, i didnt know if that was the full release or not
[11:08] <BluesKaj> massiveoni, what was ?
[11:09] <massiveoni> blueskaj, what do you mean
im downloading that one now, i didnt know if that was the full release or not
[11:10] <massiveoni> i didnt know if that one in that link was a beta
[11:11] <BluesKaj> the url i posted is the full release id you update and upgrade ...the repsos for the full release as you call it are probly being hammered
[11:12] <massiveoni> ok cheers
[11:14] <alvin> You can download the latest beta/rc and then use zsync to bring it up-to-date
[11:17] <BluesKaj> alvin, yup did that yesterday, it's mostly up to date now...but the latest image isn't released yet
[11:52] <release_15_04> hello folks, for today the release of UBUNTU and KUBUNTU_15_04 was announced ... I cannot see anything on the websites ... do we still have to wait or does anyone know what is happening ?
[11:53] <BluesKaj> release_15_04, word is another 2 hrs minimum wait time
[11:53] <Tobzi> http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/releases/vivid/release/
[11:55] <BluesKaj> Tobzi, thanks
[11:55] <Tobzi> BluesKaj: np
[11:56] <release_15_04> thanks, Tobzi, but later on with this beta-versioy?n using the update function I will have the "official" release which was announced for today...I mean it is better to wait until tomorrow to use the official image?
[12:00] <hateball> release_15_04: If you're on 15.04 beta you dont need to reinstall, you can just dist-upgrade
[12:00] <BluesKaj> Tobzi, the ppl at the ubuntu-release-party say the devs didn;t want anyone to post a URL to the latest until it has been 'properly' announced.
[12:01] <BluesKaj> Tobzi, release_15_04 , so the release is still not official
[12:03] <release_15_04> @ BluesKaj - thanks ! But when will be the OFFICIAL kubuntu 15.04 be given to the public,I mean today is 23th of April 2015?
[12:03] <lordievader> Vivid is released whenever it is ready and when the announcement is sent.
[12:04] <BluesKaj> release_15_04, join #ubuntu-release-party for the official anouncement
[12:04] <release_15_04> @hateball - thanks a lot !
[12:04] <release_15_04> @BluesKaj, thanks, I will do so
[12:36] <release_15_04> @hateball: but using dist-upgrade from the latest beta of kubuntu 15.04 will be as goog as waiting for the official release?
[12:38] <Dragnslcr> Yes. The only thing upgrading to a new Ubuntu version really does is change the version name in the configuration files for the package system.
[12:38] <Dragnslcr> Changing that name tells your system to download and install the new/updated packages that are part of the new Ubuntu version.
[12:46] <hateball> release_15_04: Yes
[12:55] <Solari> Hello
[13:04] <hyper_ch> hmmm, kubuntu 15.04 keeps forgetting all settings
[13:04] <hyper_ch> e.g. in dolphin I manually added some places
[13:04] <hyper_ch> after reboot they are gone
[13:04] <hyper_ch> or I set the desktop background to folder view
[13:05] <hyper_ch> after reboot it's gone
[13:07] <hyper_ch> dpkg-reconfigure locales doesn't offer the selection screen for which locales to use
[13:21] <alvin> hyper_ch: You're thinking of Debian. In Ubuntu, add the locales you want to /var/lib/locales/supported.d/local and then run dpkg-reconfigure locales (Don't ask me why)
[13:25] <kubuntu_user231> hi all!
[13:39] <cediddi> Hi everyone, anybody knows the release hour?
[13:39] <hyper_ch> alvin: and how do I set which one should be default?
[13:40] <alvin> hyper_ch: /etc/default/locale I think
[13:40] <hyper_ch> alvin: /supported.d/local has only one entry
[13:40] <alvin> But in /etc/default/locale you need to specify thins like "LC_NUMERIC="en_US.UTF-8""
[13:40] <hyper_ch> but when I do dpkg-reconfigure locales it generates a lot more
[13:41] <alvin> that directory (supported.d) probably contains more files
[13:41] <hyper_ch> it generates en_AG, en_AU, en_BW, ........
[13:41] <alvin> Oh, ok. I believe that's normal
[13:41] <alvin> KDE will ignore those settings anyway...
[13:41] <hyper_ch> alvin: it's not kde
[13:42] <hyper_ch> it's the shell that keeps complaining
[13:42] <alvin> I only have 2 lines in /var/lib/locales/supported.d/local (and I see now one of them is wrong...)
[13:42] <hyper_ch> perl: warning: Setting locale failed.
[13:42] <hyper_ch> perl: warning: Please check that your locale settings:
[13:42] <hyper_ch> LANGUAGE = "en_US:de",
[13:42] <hyper_ch> LC_ALL = (unset),
[13:42] <hyper_ch> LANG = "de_CH.UTF-8"
[13:42] <amari> In my laptop kde forgets the brightness setting after reboot, is it normal?
[13:42] <Riddell> cediddi: any hour now!
[13:42] <alvin> Yes, it's a very common error, that 'locale failed' Are you in an SSH session?
[13:43] <hyper_ch> alvin: no
[13:43] <hyper_ch> it's local
[13:43] <alvin> (And do those locales even exist. KDE invenst invalid locales for where I live, so I have to change them every time to something that does exist.)
[13:43] <alvin> ok, in that case. What did you put in /var/lib/locales/supported.d/local?
[13:44] <hyper_ch> alvin: well, that's what I get by default without having added anything
[13:44] <hyper_ch> I added now de_CH.UTF-8 UTF-8
[13:44] <hyper_ch> still same
[13:44] <alvin> Is that German?
[13:44] <hyper_ch> yes
[13:44] <alvin> Shouldn't the language be de_CH then? Instead of en_US:de?
[13:45] <alvin> So, the question is. Where does LANGUAGE come from, right? I'd expext en_US.UTF-8 if you want English. Or C, maybe?
[13:47] <hyper_ch> what do you mean?
[13:48] <alvin> Well, something has set your LANGUAGE to en_US:de
[13:48] <hyper_ch> alvin: that was the installer
[13:48] <hyper_ch> there's just way too many things not working
[13:49] <hyper_ch> e.g. it gives some strange error at boot up only because I run raid1
[13:49] <hyper_ch> the usb keyboard isn't working for the luks password entry
[13:49] <alvin> Maybe you have the same problem as here. The installer sets my language to de_BE.UTF-8, which is incorrect and probably does not even exists.
[13:50] <hyper_ch> having two attached external screens make plasma load really, really slow... when I just boot up notebook it's loaded in 2-3 seconds... with two external screens it takes like 15 seconds
[13:50] <hyper_ch> on the main screen when I set the background to folder view
[13:50] <alvin> But I don't believe the installer is at fault here. There's a KDE script that sets locales based on what is put in System Settings. And that part needs work
[13:50] <hyper_ch> it doesn't survive reboot
[13:50] <hyper_ch> alvin: well, same happens on debian.... when I chose as language english yet swiss german keyboard, it also gives some errors like that
[13:50] <alvin> You should test by using LANGUAGE=en_US.UTF-8 perl -v for example
[13:51] <hyper_ch> but I fix it with dpkg-reconfigure locales where I can set what languages to install and which should be default
[13:51] <alvin> Yes, but that works in Debian. Not so in Ubuntu
[13:52] <hyper_ch> those things are just no-go
[13:53] <alvin> It works. I set that 'local' file, change /etc/default/locales and DO NOT TOUCH the KDE system settings where you set the language.
[13:54] <alvin> btw, plasma5 should be better in that regard
[14:21] <dune_in> Hi guys! Got a question - where is Kubuntu 15.04? I received a news via RSS about Kubuntu 15.04 but it's says "Acces denied" (http://www.kubuntu.org/news/kubuntu-15.04).
[14:29] <BluesKaj> dune_in, join #ubuntu-release-party and you'll see the official release anouncement there, wwhen it happens.
[14:33] <hyper_ch> another bug: when you set desktop to folder view
[14:33] <hyper_ch> and try to shift-delete items, it won't work
[14:38] <dune_in> @BluesKaj, thank you!
[14:39] <BluesKaj> dune_in, yw
[14:40] <hyper_ch> hi BluesKaj
[14:41] <BluesKaj> hi hyper_ch
[14:42] <hyper_ch> BluesKaj: how can I make in 15.04 that my desktop settings stick: I want folder view and after reboot, it's back to the other one
[14:44] <hyper_ch> and does plasma 5 not offer anymore kdialog?
[14:44] <BluesKaj> hyper_ch, , not sure about folderview, i don't see it in widgets in 15.04
[14:44] <hyper_ch> BluesKaj: right-click desktop -> folder view settings -> layout "Folder View"
[14:47] <BluesKaj> hyper_ch, I just have folder and desktop , no folderview in layout
[14:50] <hyper_ch> BluesKaj: http://images.sjau.ch/img/7b2a0272.png
[14:54] <hyper_ch> BluesKaj: also when I add places to Dolphin, after reboot they're gone
[14:56] <iangabriel> help?
[14:57] <iangabriel> any java developers out here?
[14:57] <BluesKaj> hyper_ch, unfortunately my prntscrn doesn't work when a drop down is open, but I can assure you i don't ahve folderview in layout
[14:57] <hyper_ch> BluesKaj: I started print screen, set delay of 5 secs and then gave drop down
[14:57] <hyper_ch> BluesKaj: you're not on plasma 5?
[14:58] <iangabriel> how do i install a tar.gz?
[15:04] <hyper_ch> BluesKaj: why can't I report plasma bugs at kde.org?
[15:09] <hyper_ch> konsole is also very unstable
[15:10] <hyper_ch> it freezes every few minutes
[15:10] <hyper_ch> tbh, I'm not really happy with the state of 15.04
[15:12] <BluesKaj> hyper_ch, have you dist-upgraded lately? , suggest you update upgrade and dist-upgrade
[15:12] <hyper_ch> BluesKaj: fresh install from this morning
[15:12] <hyper_ch> blank install, not even upgrade
[15:12] <BluesKaj> no matter run the commands anyaway
[15:14] <hyper_ch> firefox and ca-certs
[15:17] <BluesKaj> hyper_ch, have you checked the driver manager to makesure you have the recommended graphics driver etc?
[15:17] <hyper_ch> yes
[15:17] <hyper_ch> as said, it's a lot of small annoying things
[15:17] <hyper_ch> e.g. not keeping settings for reboot
[15:18] <hyper_ch> (desktop and dolphin places), lots of freezing of konsole, kontact crashes rather often, .....
[15:18] <hyper_ch> also when booting up, I can't enter luks password with the attached usb keyboard
[15:19] <hyper_ch> I have locale problems.... konsole is totally weird and the dpkg-reconfigure locaes doesn't work
[15:19] <BluesKaj> I'm getting few crashes of apps when exiting them , but that's about all other then the prinscrn not working when there's ab active drop down , even with the delay
[15:19] <hyper_ch> BluesKaj: removing a resource from akonadi -> crash
[15:22] <BluesKaj> hyper_ch, open ~/.config/akonadi then find akonadiserverrc and StartServer=true , change it to false
[15:22] <hyper_ch> what will that do?
[15:24] <hyper_ch> well, that's not a big issue... bigger is the dolphin places and desktop folder issue
[15:27] <BluesKaj> it'll prevent akondi from loading
[15:28] <Riddell> ** Kubuntu 15.04 http://www.kubuntu.org/news/kubuntu-15.04
[15:28] <hyper_ch> BluesKaj: you can't run kontact without akonadi
[15:29] <tuv0k> nice
[15:30] <hyper_ch> switzerland keyboard setup has been an issue for the last 3 years or so
[15:30] <hyper_ch> BluesKaj: in what file is the setting stored that desktop background should use folders?
[15:30] <Riddell> hyper_ch: at least now it doesn't crash, and I've some thoughts on things to try to fix it
[15:30] <hyper_ch> and where are the dolphin places locations stored?
[15:31] <hyper_ch> konsole froze again
[15:32] <BluesKaj> hyper_ch, kubuntu 15.04 officially released , then nvigate to plasma 5.3 and add the ppa
[15:32] <BluesKaj> http://www.kubuntu.org/
[15:33] <qdata> 15.04 download too slow; canceled - they must be getting hammered
[15:33] <hyper_ch> BluesKaj: I already have that
[15:33] <hyper_ch> deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/kubuntu-ppa/beta/ubuntu vivid main
[15:34] <hyper_ch> that's the one, right?
[15:35] <BluesKaj> http://www.kubuntu.org/news/plasma-5.3-beta
[15:35] <hyper_ch> BluesKaj: yeah, got that already
[15:44] <donniezazen> I wish Kubuntu would autostart ssh-agent and set SSH-ASKPASS=ksshaskpass like Fedora KDE does. Pretty handy for developers.
[16:08] <reborn> is Plasma 5 good stable to go?
[16:11] <hyper_ch> so, I can't browse with the Select Icon thingy in the KDE Menu Editor
[16:13] <Riddell> reborn: it's awesome to go!
[16:14] <MoonUnit`> hyper_ch: yeah it's a bug
[16:14] <MoonUnit`> https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=346316
[16:15] <hyper_ch> MoonUnit`: why can't I report plasma/desktop bugs?
[16:17] <hyper_ch> so, anyone can tell me what file to edit to add places to dolphin?
[16:17] <hyper_ch> konsol frozen again
[16:18] <JeZxLee> when is Kubuntu 15.10 going to be release?
[16:19] <JeZxLee> just a joke :)
[16:19] <hyper_ch> another konsole freeze
[16:20] <hyper_ch> another one... I think I have a pattern now
[16:20] <hyper_ch> when I maximize it with double-click on the top bar... it freezes
[16:24] <reborn> Same the system requirement, yes?
[16:28] <reborn> ?
[16:29] <hyper_ch> dolphin problem solved... still plasma desktop folder view
[16:29] <hyper_ch> where is supposed to be saved that file?
[16:55] <excalibr> Did dolphin get fully ported to kf5 in this new release?
[16:55] <MoonUnit`> nope http://developer.kde.org/~cfeck/portingstatus.html
[16:56] <excalibr> ah thought it would make it in time for 15.05
[16:57] <jpwhiting> shadeslayer: the problem is the package with -lts isn't marked as a replacement for the one without -lts
[16:59] <jpwhiting> or as an upgrade for it either
[17:24] <airsynth> Hi! I hope this is happening to someone else: Plasma on Kubuntu 15.04 is crashing constantly. Does anybody know how to solve it?
[17:27] <airsynth> No one? Really?
[17:35] <BluesKaj> airsynth, just arrived , what's your issue ?
[17:44] <hyper_ch> hmmmm, where are the system icons saved? since the brows button doesn't work
[17:44] <tuv0k> ?
[17:45] <hyper_ch> tuv0k: 15.04 when editing that applications menu you can't use the browse button to search for other graphics
[17:45] <drw> hyper_ch: /usr/share/icons/
[17:45] <hyper_ch> drw: thx
[17:46] <MoonUnit`> hyper_ch: weird though, before last week you could browse the icons
[17:46] <hyper_ch> MoonUnit`: I can't
[17:46] <hyper_ch> drw: and where to put there? the interface uses categories
[17:47] <BluesKaj> hyper_ch, installed plasma 5.3 beta ...no desktop, no panel, nothing, just the cursor shows up :)
[17:47] <acz32> does anyone know how to disable holidays in the calendar/clock widget? i unchecked show events in the preferences but it still lists holidays beside the calendar
[17:47] <MoonUnit`> don't know if its a kde or kubuntu packaging bug.
[17:47] <drw> and seems I can browse for icons, but am running 5.3beta from the kubuntu beta/backports ppa
[17:47] <hyper_ch> BluesKaj: welcome to my world :)
[17:47] <hyper_ch> drw: I am also running that on a fresh install
[17:47] <BluesKaj> well , I'm gonna install the default image , no ppas for now
[17:47] <hyper_ch> or where is the menu file saved, then I could edit that one
[17:48] <drw> dunno
[17:48] <MoonUnit`> drw: i'm on 5.3b too but still can't browse them.
[17:48] <hyper_ch> I used mini to install to achieve single-disk raid1 with luks encryption
[17:49] <drw> ah, you mean the browse button when you go into change the icon? if so, then yeah I have the same thing :(
[17:49] <MoonUnit`> drw: yup
[17:49] <hyper_ch> drw: so, where can I put a .png file so it can be used through one of the categories?
[17:49] <drw> select "Other Icons" from Icon Source
[17:50] <drw> then browse button is enabled
[17:50] <MoonUnit`> drw: i bit annoying i use the numix icons but some of them are hard to see so wanted to change them.
[17:50] <drw> but clicking it does nothing...:(
[17:53] <hyper_ch> ah, put it into /usr/share/icons/default.kde4/22x22/categories/
[18:13] <shadeslayer> jpwhiting: it's not meant as a auto upgrade
[18:13] <shadeslayer> jpwhiting: it's meant as a "I know what I'm doing and will install the LTS backports"
[18:18] <murthy> I am upgrading to 15.04
[18:26] <JeZxLee> question: it is safe to use that Plasma v5.3 PPA on Kubuntu 15.04 64Bit?
[18:26] <MoonUnit`> JeZxLee: as always ymmv, i'm using it with no problems so far.
[18:27] <hyper_ch> MoonUnit`: "no problems" /me checks backlog
[18:30] <drw> I haven't had any issues using the beta/backports PPA version
[18:31] <hyper_ch> I have countless issues with it
[18:38] <JeZxLee> another question: where can I set desktop effect compositor to OpenGL in settings?
[18:38] <lordievader> JeZxLee: Under the display settings.
[18:39] <drw> Display and Monitor -> Compositor
[18:44] <jpwhiting> shadeslayer: and yet if you install from a point release iso you get those lts backports automatically, so it's not always opt-in
[19:21] <JeZxLee> sorry, one more question - when running old 14.10 how can I tell update manager to stop telling me to upgrade to 15.04 ?
[19:21] <travnewmatic> JeZxLee, i'd suggest changing from normal releases to long term releases in update manager settings
[19:22] <travnewmatic> if i were to put a .kwinrule file somewhere
[19:22] <travnewmatic> where should it go?
[19:22] <rosco_y> I just installed the MySQL Client package in Ubuntu. Do I need to also install MySQL Server?
[19:28] <murthy> travnewmatic: I think this is the one in 14.10 /home/phoenix/.kde/share/config/kwinrulesrc
[19:28] <murthy> oops
[19:28] <murthy> thats my user name
[19:29] <murthy> ~/.kde/share/config/kwinrulesrc
[19:30] <donniezazen> rosco_y: what for?
[19:30] <travnewmatic> hmm this is frustrating
[19:31] <travnewmatic> apparently plasma 5 has moved away from the old thing which allowed programs to show in the system tray
[19:31] <travnewmatic> to a new thing
[19:31] <travnewmatic> which the programs that i use dont work with yet
[19:31] <travnewmatic> the exception being skype
[19:32] <travnewmatic> so no system tray icons by default for pidgin, or hexchat, or dropbox
[19:32] <travnewmatic> also why after the update is dolphin still using plasma 4 icons
[19:32] <murthy> travnewmatic: I am updating my 14.10 to 15.10, so cant check right now. You could use the strace on the app to trace the file location
[19:32] <MoonUnit`> travnewmatic: i use trayer to see them.
[19:32] <travnewmatic> http://blog.martin-graesslin.com/blog/2014/06/where-are-my-systray-icons/
[19:33] <murthy> ah
[19:33] <murthy> just missed
[19:33] <murthy> I was to post that now :)
[19:33] <travnewmatic> lol
[19:33] <travnewmatic> well
[19:33] <travnewmatic> thats cute and all
[19:33] <travnewmatic> but i dont want something on my desktop that i have to minimize all of my windows to get to
[19:33] <travnewmatic> thats bullshit
[19:34] <travnewmatic> i guess i'm wondeirng where to direct my frustration
[19:34] <travnewmatic> this seems to be something that the applications are in charge of
[19:34] <travnewmatic> kde made a new thing (which isnt ncessarily bad) that the applications need to adjust to
[19:34] <Pandorian> just upgraded to kubuntu 15.04, how do i revert back? it won't start after login in my Virtual Box
[19:35] <tuv0k> restore your backup
[19:35] <murthy> Pandorian: wait
[19:35] <murthy> do you see any error messages?
[19:35] <Pandorian> it just freezes before even opening any panels
[19:35] <Pandorian> buring the boot, something about bios
[19:36] <rosco_y> donniezazen: sorry I missed your query--I found the answer and I've been busy since :) I installed mysql server and client on my machine, so I'm good to go. Thanks anyways!
[19:36] <murthy> Pandorian: like acpi?
[19:36] <donniezazen> rosco_y: good.
[19:37] <Pandorian> can't remember for sure, i think so... it won't start at all now after i had to force shutdown the VBox... need to free up a bit of memory before i can restart it again
[19:37] <murthy> Pandorian: If it freezes after login. Can you get the .xsession-errors file from the home directory from a tty?
[19:38] <Pandorian> in any case, my desktop configuration is all different, incluidng wallpapers etc.. it's all messed up it didn't even warn me that this would happen
[19:38] <donniezazen> Pandorian: I don't think there is a way to go back from Plasma 5 to KDE 4.
[19:38] <Pandorian> murthy, how can i get to terminal to view the log file?
[19:39] <murthy> ctrl+alt+f1
[19:39] <Pandorian> i'll take a look
[19:39] <murthy> Pandorian: are you there?
[19:40] <Pandorian> i didn't realize that this is upgrading to Plasma5, i seperate VBox installation already running Plasma5 lol
[19:40] <Pandorian> i have*
[19:40] <Pandorian> this is so messed up, all my work configuring KDE4 is now doomed and it was so beautiful (
[19:40] <Pandorian> :(
[19:40] <murthy> Pandorian: can you try something
[19:41] <murthy> Pandorian: Try login after deleting this file .Xauthority in the home directory
[19:41] <Pandorian> k i'll try
[19:43] <doctorx> hello all...
[19:44] <murthy> hi
[19:44] <doctorx> trying to figure out a problem... not sure if i got a bad download or something else... i burned iso to usb key, but during boot to install, i get freezes...
[19:45] <doctorx> i am wondering if the nouevo drivers (sp?) are to blame?
[19:45] <murthy> doctorx: did you check the md5 sum of the iso?
[19:46] <doctorx> i ran the internal check from the install and it said one file failed... i am redownloading now. just in case
[19:46] <doctorx> if it is the oss nvidia drivers (however they are spelled), how do i specify vesa driver only?
[19:47] <doctorx> i run an nvidia titan, and i had a similar problem with bohdi linux... this is why i was asking
[19:47] <doctorx> but never with kubuntu
[19:47] <murthy> doctorx: I think you can blacklist in the modprobe
[19:48] <murthy> doctorx: check this directory /etc/modprobe.d/
[19:48] <murthy> doctorx: handle with care
[19:52] <doctorx> ok... redownloaded and md5 matches... going to give this a try first.
[19:53] <murthy> doctorx: do you want to how to black list a driver?
[19:53] <doctorx> yes... also, can you specify vesa from the grub boot line?
[19:54] <murthy> doctorx: I need to check about the vesa stuff, but I will tell you about the blacklisting
[19:55] <murthy> doctorx: get the driver name from the list from lsmod command
[19:55] <murthy> doctorx: put a file with any name containing this ...
[19:56] <murthy> blacklist <driver name>
[19:56] <murthy> and update the initramfs
[19:57] <murthy> to remove from the blacklist simply delete the file and update the initramfs
[19:57] <murthy> doctorx: ^
[19:57] <murthy> I will give an example
[19:59] <murthy> The following is a file created by the nvidia driver to blacklist the nouveau driver. https://paste.kde.org/pqdxrbojp
[19:59] <Pandorian> murthy, it didn't freeze this time, the panel loaded but disappeared right after - i thought this was supposed to be a stable version lol
[20:00] <murthy> Pandorian: What did you do?
[20:00] <Pandorian> what you told me
[20:01] <Pandorian> removed .Xauthority
[20:01] <murthy> Pandorian: Did the panel appear after that?
[20:02] <Pandorian> nope, it just disappeared, and then i tried to get into the console mode and everything froze again at that point and i had to just crash the Vbox session
[20:04] <doctorx> thanks for the info... murthy
[20:04] <murthy> Pandorian: May be the vbox display driver is not working properly, can you try with some other program like qemu
[20:04] <murthy> doctorx: yw
[20:04] <doctorx> i was able to boot this copy... i guess i had a bad burn/iso before... thanks for the info still
[20:04] <tarator> Hello everybody! I've just upgraded from kubuntu 14.10 to 15.04 and getting a whitescreen after restart. Lightdm (is Kubuntu still using it?) is running. Can anybody give me a hint, where I can take a look?
[20:05] <murthy> doctorx: enjoy
[20:05] <doctorx> I am always looking to learn more
[20:05] <murthy> doctorx: You can always come here
[20:05] <soee> tarator: nope, switch to sddm
[20:06] <murthy> tarator: I think sddm replced lightdm? I am not 100 percent sure
[20:06] <soee> tarator: type: sudo dpkg-reconfigure sddm
[20:06] <soee> chec sddm and apl
[20:06] <murthy> tarator: from a tty end lightdm process and run startx command
[20:07] <murthy> try what soee says
[20:07] <Pandorian> thats what i was thinking because my other Plasma5 VBox installation was giving me problems at the beginnign too, i had to restart it many times before it actually stopped crashing the panel, and it still does that sometimes... which is why i abandoned plasma5 and went with KDE4, had it perfectly tuned with no bugs, and looking good and now it's dead lol
[20:07] <tarator> ok... I disabled lightdm (systemctl disable lightdm)
[20:07] <tarator> murthy: thanks.. I give it a try...
[20:08] <Pandorian> i wish i had a time machine
[20:08] <darthanubis> http://picpaste.com/snapshot6-HnYUdtkt.png
[20:08] <Pandorian> isn't there some automatic backup of distro-upgrades ?
[20:09] <tarator> murthy: ok... start x gives me a strange desktop... definetliy not Plasma :) looks more like xfce or something...
[20:09] <murthy> Pandorian: I think you could switch some rendering settings to workaround
[20:10] <darthanubis> Pandorian: always backup before doing something you may regret
[20:10] <murthy> tarator: have you tried what soee recommended
[20:10] <tarator> I tried to reconfigure plasma-desktop which gave me an error...
[20:11] <tarator> now I'am installing plasma-desktop (apt-get install plasma-desktop)
[20:11] <Unknown_User> Dumb question. How do you load and apply an ICC profile for color correction in Kubuntu 15.04
[20:11] <Unknown_User> ?
[20:11] <Unknown_User> colord-kde-icc-importer doesn't actually seem to do anything.
[20:11] <murthy> tarator: no have you tried reconfiguring sddm?
[20:12] <keithzg> Pandorian: If you're using VBox, you should *really* be using snapshots. That's your time machine right there!
[20:12] * keithzg loves snapshots so, so much
[20:12] <murthy> me too
[20:12] <Unknown_User> [And I have "Enable color correction" checked in the Display settings Control Panel thing.]
[20:12] <tarator> ok... the previous desktop was fluxbox...
[20:12] <Pandorian> k i'll try to remember that
[20:12] <tarator> murthy: yes, I tried...
[20:13] <keithzg> Pandorian: Seriously it's one of the biggest advantages of virtual machines. You can even snapshot while the VM is running and resume that *exact* moment (although it's better to snapshot while the machine is off).
[20:13] <Pandorian> how is windows running inside a linux vbox?
[20:13] <keithzg> It's quite good.
[20:13] <Pandorian> maybe i should switch around
[20:13] <Unknown_User> oyranos worked just fine with 14.whatever, but now -I guess- the KDE control panel's interface changed, so its control panel thingie doesn't seem to work.
[20:13] <keithzg> Literally use that every day at work (software development firm; I'm mostly the sysadmin but I also do testing, and our software is Windows-based).
[20:13] <murthy> tarator: Did the upgrade complete without interruption?
[20:14] <tarator> ok... I think there are many packages not installed... does anybody know a command to install the "standard" packages?
[20:14] <tarator> murthy: I'm not sure... Now I don't think so... I think I hit the restart button too quick...
[20:14] <tarator> murthy: (when it appeared... :-< )
[20:15] <murthy> tarator: ah
[20:15] <tarator> keitthzg: Windows runs great in VirtualBox.
[20:15] <soee> tarator: sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[20:16] <murthy> tarator: I think thats the problem. The restart notification appears even before the upgrade process completes
[20:16] <murthy> tarator: I think its the same old command sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[20:16] <murthy> tarator: wait
[20:17] <murthy> tarator: let me check that
[20:17] <keithzg> tarator: Yup, and actually in my experience Windows runs better as a guest in Virtualbox on a Linux host than on a Windows host.
[20:19] <Unknown_User> Oh great.
[20:19] <tarator> murthy: ok I installed kubuntu-desktop, but I think there is a lot more missing... Login-Manager looks very basic and strange... after Logging in to plasma desktop, I only get a black screen and an autostart application (which at least looks like Plasma 5 and nice :-)
[20:19] <murthy> Pandorian: have you tried different display settings?
[20:19] <Unknown_User> I change the look and feel of the window decorations, and the window manager crashes.
[20:19] <Unknown_User> >_<
[20:20] <Pandorian> murthy, how do i change display settings?
[20:20] <murthy> tarator: I think you need to restart. But do that only if you are sure your installation is not broken to point of boot failure
[20:21] <murthy> Pandorian: checking
[20:21] <tarator> murthy: I did restarts regularly... now it looks, like it can't display images (they are all black...)
[20:22] <murthy> Pandorian: I am upgrading my system to 15.04 and so the apps are not opening at the moment so I cant tell the exact details
[20:22] <murthy> Pandorian: but..
[20:22] <Pandorian> murthy, the panel loads then disappears and then everything freezes again, before i can do much
[20:22] <Pandorian> other than from the terminal
[20:23] <murthy> Pandorian: try to choose between different gl and render stuffs
[20:24] <murthy> tarator: Image where?
[20:24] <murthy> Pandorian: are you able to open the krunner?
[20:24] <tarator> any images on the plasma desktop (there are only black boxes, where there should be images....)
[20:25] <murthy> tarator: do you have any graphics card?
[20:26] <murthy> tarator: I mean right now in the system
[20:26] <tarator> it's a laptop... Intel hd4000
[20:26] <tarator> murthy: I really think, that there are some packages missing...
[20:27] <murthy> tarator: can you play a video ?
[20:28] <tarator> murthy: yes videos are working
[20:28] <tarator> murthy: for example, when I open the start-menu, it's simply black.
[20:29] <tarator> also there is no desktop background...
[20:29] <murthy> tarator: open gwenview in terminal and check if there is any error messages in it. before that you need to enable the debug messages. run kdebugdialog and enable gwenview in that
[20:29] <tarator> also my buttons are black...
[20:32] <murthy> tarator: I think you better do one thing
[20:33] <murthy> tarator: there is a command to check the integrity of the installed packages, it will tell you if a package is corrupted
[20:34] <tarator> https://gist.github.com/tarator/eee8db1517a7df9fe044
[20:34] <PooCocktailSupre> plasma 5 w0000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000t
[20:34] <Linuturk> congrats on the 15.04 release :)
[20:34] <PooCocktailSupre> w000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000t
[20:34] <PooCocktailSupre> let's pop the champagne baby!!!
[20:34] <PooCocktailSupre> KDE++
[20:34] <PooCocktailSupre> KDE++
[20:34] <PooCocktailSupre> beautiful. fucking. desktop.
[20:36] <murthy> tarator: the command is sudo debsums -s
[20:37] <murthy> tarator: wait till the process finishes and note down any errors that it displays. The errors are possible corrupted packages that need to be reinstalled
[20:37] <murthy> PooCocktailSupre: yep
[20:37] <PooCocktailSupre> yup
[20:37] <PooCocktailSupre> yup yup yup
[20:38] <Unknown_User> Wish the KDE4->KDE5 upgrade didn't blow away all of my hotkeys, desktop layout, and the like.
[20:38] <Unknown_User> That's a big thumbs down./
[20:38] <travnewmatic> yep
[20:38] <travnewmatic> i have some keyboard shortcuts to redo on my end too
[20:38] <PooCocktailSupre> think of it as a fresh install
[20:38] <travnewmatic> yeah
[20:38] <travnewmatic> a fresh install with a gimped system tray
[20:39] <travnewmatic> thats the biggest thorn in my side now
[20:39] <Unknown_User> PooCocktailSupre, if I wanted a fresh install, I would have made one. I'm too old to waste my time re-mapping my keyboard shortcuts.
[20:39] <Unknown_User> Anyone know where the switch to enable 24 hour time is?
[20:39] <Unknown_User> Also, why does the volume get set to max when *some* system sounds are played, but not *all* of them? Or is this something unique with my hardware? :/
[20:40] <keithzg> I remember it being under language and location stuff but I could be remembering wrong
[20:40] * keithzg is at work right now, and is keeping everything at work on the LTS, thankyouverymuch
[20:40] <Unknown_User> keithzg, Yeah, under Language & Loc, now we get to pick formats by *country name*, rather than the format we want.
[20:41] <Unknown_User> keithzg, stick with LTS. This is a mess.
[20:41] <tarator> murthy: this is how my plasma5 looks like: https://www.asap-soft.com/owncloud/index.php/s/T5dKBdd9dNmk8IO
[20:42] <drw> Unknown_User: 24/12 time is based on locale in Region Settings -> Formats...might need to override your locale default there
[20:42] <keithzg> Unknown_User: I'm not *that* upset personally with Plasma 5, it's just not ready yet to be default. I'm actually more worried about systemd, which is the main thing that has *%(I#('d things up on my laptop I was testing 15.04 on.
[20:42] <Gallowwalker> why the new look of kde is so bad
[20:43] <keithzg> Gallowwalker: You can switch back to the old plasma and window themes, though, to be fair.
[20:43] <Unknown_User> keithzg, Yeah, systemd's feedback on why a daemon failed to start is... less than helpful: "It failed to start!". What's more, systemd start is twice as slow as upstart.
[20:43] <tarator> murthy: Ok, there are some missing files from libgphoto...
[20:43] <tarator> how can I make a reinstall?
[20:43] <Gallowwalker> the 14.10 look is just perfect
[20:43] <Unknown_User> drw, Which of the hundreds of countries do I select from to get a 24-hour clock?
[20:44] <Unknown_User> drw, and, moreover, which do I set to get a 24 hour clock, but an American calendar? :(
[20:44] <murthy> tarator: I will give the command , but wait till the process finishes so that you will get the complete list of errors
[20:44] <tarator> it finished...
[20:44] <keithzg> Unknown_User: Yeah systemd is just . . . unfortunate. It's too bad upstart lost. Although ironically it lives on in ChromeOS, 'cause Google is steering far away from systemd.
[20:44] <Unknown_User> drw, You can see maybe why I might think that having the old method as an option is superior? :)
[20:45] <Unknown_User> keithzg, It's a damn shame noone but Gentoo uses OpenRC. It's quite nice.
[20:45] <murthy> tarator: the command to reinstall a package is sudo apt-get install --reinstall <packagename>
[20:45] <drw> Unknown_User: try selecting Region: No change
[20:45] <Unknown_User> keithzg, After this Kubuntu upgrade, I'm strongly considering backing up /home and doing a Gentoo install on this. They have to have done KDE5 better than this.
[20:46] <lordievader> Unknown_User: I couldn't get KDE5 to compile on my Gentoo...
[20:46] <Unknown_User> drw I don't have my system locale set to be 24-hour. I set that in KDE4.
[20:46] <lordievader> It complained about a Qt5test not being founf.
[20:46] <lordievader> found*
[20:46] <Unknown_User> lordievader, Yikes.
[20:46] <tarator> murthy: meh... didn't help... I think there are some other packages missing...
[20:46] <lordievader> Decided to stick to KDE4 for the time being.
[20:46] <murthy> tarator: you reinstalled the package?
[20:47] <tarator> yes..
[20:47] <Unknown_User> lordievader, Ah, kde5 isn't even in the tree. Cool.
[20:47] <murthy> restless fellow
[20:47] <Unknown_User> lordievader, I didn't upgrade Kubuntu for the KDE change, I upgraded for the kernel change. :P
[20:49] <keithzg> Unknown_User: So you were like "ooh, new kernel! . . . wait, systemd, Plasma5? ARGHH"? :P
[20:50] <Unknown_User> keithzg, Well, I knew about the systemd thing. I suspected that the KDE5 transition wouldn't *break* things for me. :P
[20:50] <Unknown_User> keithzg, I'm amused by the slowness of systemd. Exactly the opposite of what its proponents were proclaming.
[20:50] <lordievader> Systemd ain't that bad. If coupled with dracut it is quite nice.
[20:50] <Unknown_User> lordievader, I use dracut + OpenRC on my Gentoo systems. It's very nice. Fast, debuggable, and easy.
[20:52] <keithzg> lordievader: Unfortunately systemd is too much like Apple products, which is unsurprising considering it's largely the GnomeOS camp that's been developing it. It's great when it works, but it can be *really* unhelpful when you're trying to figure out why it's broken...
[20:52] <Unknown_User> lordievader, My experience with systemd so far has been that it's slower than Upstart, provides less information when a service fails to run, and is actually *harder* to discover the spelling of a service.
[20:52] <tarator> does anybody know how to check missing installed packages?
[20:52] <Pandorian> can i just install the kde4 from the terminal over plasma5?
[20:52] <rberg> I OTOH did not enjoy working with OpenRC, not that I have much exp with systemd at this time
[20:52] <lordievader> Meh, lots of getting used to.
[20:53] <Linuturk> is krunner invisible for anyone else? I can launch it with alt+space, but I don't see the actual prompt. I can type stuff in and launch things
[20:54] <Unknown_User> Linuturk, works for me.
[20:54] <keithzg> lordievader: Oh, getting used to it is definitely part of it. But it's not just unfamiliarity, it's also quite terse at times and more generally opaque than upstart (or classic SysV init, but I *entirely* understand why people---especially maintainers and packagers---want to move away from that).
[20:54] <Unknown_User> keithzg, they can move to OpenRC. :P
[20:54] <Pandorian> murthy, can i just install the kde4 from the terminal over plasma5?
[20:54] <Unknown_User> keithzg, Very disciplined shell scripts with great support scripts.
[20:54] * Unknown_User shuts up about init systems.
[20:55] <lordievader> Upstart could also be very non descript in its errors. <service> failed to start... Ermm okay?
[20:55] * lordievader shuts up too
[20:55] <murthy> Pandorian: I am not sure if it is possible
[20:55] <Unknown_User> So, anyway. Anyone know how to make colord actually, yanno, do color correction?
[20:56] <murthy> Pandorian: have you tried the things that i told you? about different display settings?
[20:56] <Pandorian> theoretically it should be, i mean i can install Unity and remove KDE and install XFCE instead, etc.. right? so why not remove plasma5 from terminal and install some other dekstop enviornment? why is that a big deal?
[20:56] <Unknown_User> The system claims that I've loaded the ICC profile that I want into it, but I have no clue how to actually apply that profile to a monitor.
[20:56] <keithzg> lordievader: Yeah, but I've had similar problems on both and in the systemd instance, it doesn't tell me it failed to start until I query its status... anyways, I do hope most of the issues get ironed out, and I do love systemd on SailfishOS. IMHO that's where it's most suited, and servers are where it's least suited.
[20:56] * keithzg shuts up about init systems too now ;)
[20:56] * Unknown_User wonders about that. ;P
[20:56] <murthy> Unknown_User: If its a kde stuff, you could try in #kde
[20:57] <Pandorian> murthy, no not yet... let me know how to get into the display settings from terminal or krunner, not sure krunner will let me because it usually freezes beyond the login point
[20:58] <keithzg> Unknown_User: Does your monitor actuallys support such stuff? Very few do. Although IIRC that support is only recently being integrated (I swear I remember reading about it on planet KDE, but can't find so at the moment) so may not be fully implemented yet anyways.
[20:58] <Unknown_User> murthy, I used to be using oyranos for this, but their repos are like totally gone. I'll poke my head in #kde later, but this sort of feels more like a #kubuntu thing
[20:58] <hyper_ch> so I'm not the only one having issues
[20:59] <hyper_ch> I still fail to see the point why good old system v init needs replacment
[20:59] <Unknown_User> keithzg, colord supports this sort of thing, as did kded4. I had this working with oyranos and Kubuntu 14.whatever. I guess the KDE5 Control Panel format changed, as the Oyranos control panel thing doesn't appear anymore.
[20:59] <lordievader> keithzg: From what I understand ICC profiles are applied to the videocard.
[20:59] <hyper_ch> funniest bug for me: trying to resize konsole and it freezes
[20:59] <Unknown_User> keithzg, I *wish* I could load an ICC profile into my monitor and never have to deal with this crap in software, but -alas- I am not so rich as to have such a sweet monitor.
[20:59] * lordievader wonders if he had oyranos working in Kubuntu.
[20:59] <Unknown_User> lordievader, fancy monitors will consume an ICC profile, too.
[21:00] <lordievader> Hmm, guess my monitor ain't that fancy.
[21:00] <mefisto> upgrading from 14.10 to 15.04 the installer seems stuck at "Installing the upgrades" stage. should I wait, or quit and try completing the upgrade in terminal?
[21:00] <Unknown_User> lordievader, Neither is mine, despite how much I paid for it. :P
[21:01] <hyper_ch> what are icc profiles good for?
[21:01] <lordievader> Unknown_User: Hehe, there is allways a model slightly more expensive and slightly better :P
[21:01] <lordievader> hyper_ch: Calibration profiles ;)
[21:01] <hyper_ch> people believe in that? :)
[21:01] <murthy> Pandorian: There is an option "OpenGLIsUnsafe=false" in the kwinrc file in ~/.kde/share/config/ you could try changing it to true and see if that works to get a stable shell for the moment
[21:01] <lordievader> hyper_ch: For graphic designers, etc, these things are holy.
[21:01] <hyper_ch> good that I am not one of those
[21:03] <murthy> mefisto: wait
[21:03] <murthy> mefisto: I am having the same thing, but the process is happening in the background
[21:03] <murthy> mefisto: in the taskmanager can you see the process vivid?
[21:04] <mefisto> murthy: yes its there
[21:05] <murthy> mefisto: thats the install process. You can run the command ps aux to see the last run command/process
[21:06] <murthy> mefisto: by now you may not be able to open the konsole, its happening for me, I am using a tty
[21:06] <rberg> does this kde 'IM Contacts' work reliably for anyone? (still on 14.10)
[21:07] <rberg> it seems to conenct once then when I roam my laptop if never connects again and spins and spins
[21:08] <tarator> murthy: I have some other missing files: /DEBIAN/postinst (from sigram package)
[21:09] <murthy> tarator: I think thats not important
[21:09] <murthy> tarator: Did the process complete?
[21:10] <tarator> murthy: yes the debsums process only takes 2-3 minutes...
[21:12] <murthy> tarator: wow you must be having a super computer
[21:12] <tarator> hmmm... I don't know... or something really is messed up...
[21:12] <tarator> (haven an i7 dualcore... so not that fast...)
[21:12] <murthy> tarator: If the process had finished, paste the list of error messages. use paste.kde.org
[21:13] <murthy> tarator: mine is a pentium 4 ht
[21:13] <tarator> ok... one moment...
[21:15] <murthy> mefisto: Now i am having second thoughts. Can you wait while I check?
[21:16] <tarator> murthy: this is the complete list: http://goo.gl/5XhxEN
[21:19] <murthy> tarator: so you reinstalled libgphoto2-2?
[21:20] <Unknown_User> hyper_ch, For me, I have a wide-gamut monitor. If I want to display sRGB stuff on it, then the thing pushing the pixels needs to know to change the colors so that they will look right on my monitor. *sigh*
[21:20] <murthy> tarator: if so tell me the full command you used. I am guessing you might have reinstalled libgphoto2-2 instead of libgphoto2-2:i386
[21:20] <hyper_ch> Unknown_User: I have some cheap asus 24" screens :)
[21:20] <Unknown_User> hyper_ch, This stuff Just Works(TM) on Mac and Windows. It should also Just Work(TM) on Linux. Guess that software is far less sexy than the Desktop Search and the like. :/
[21:21] <tarator> ok... the thing is, that I also have installed libgphoto2-6
[21:21] <Unknown_User> hyper_ch, Yeah. I'm not sure if I would purchase another wide gamut screen in the future. Mine's also an ASUS 24".
[21:22] <murthy> tarator: The corrupted package is libgphoto2-2:i386, so this has to be reinstalled
[21:22] <hyper_ch> Unknown_User: one is attached to hdmi the other one to vga output on my notebook :)
[21:24] <tarator> murthy: ok, when using apt-get install --reinstall libgphoto2-2:i386 doesn't exist... but libgphoto2-l10n replaces it... it says...
[21:25] <tarator> murthy: I'm installing it.... but it doesn't help...
[21:26] <tarator> murthy: ok... can I get somewhere a list of the default installation packages?
[21:26] <murthy> tarator: what does sudo apt-cache search libgphoto2 says?
[21:27] <murthy> tarator: you could check the dependency of kubuntu-desktop meta package
[21:29] <mefisto> murthy: is your upgrade showing any sign of progress?
[21:29] <murthy> mefisto: no, I checking on that
[21:30] <tarator> murthy: http://paste.kde.org/p8vqgxvs6
[21:34] <Pandorian> murthy, just tried it, now it's totally black frozen after login
[21:35] <reverser> o.o
[21:38] <tarator> murthy: thanks for your help... I think I have to reinstall the whole crap.
[21:39] <murthy> tarator: yw
[21:39] <tarator> murthy: I have problems EVERYTIME upgrading the kubuntu version... that really sucks.... it costs me a whole day almost every half year....
[21:40] <tarator> I think I gonna try another distro this time..... good nigtht!
[21:41] <murthy> tarator: If thats the case you could try more stable version or you could put a message to the kubuntu qa team
[21:43] <murthy> Pandorian: You can ask a kubuntu dev at #kubuntu-devel for help, they might help you better
[21:44] <Pandorian> k thank you
[21:49] <sizziff__> I did not like 15.04, 14.04 better
[21:51] <amari> 15.04 is indeed buggy, I already had 2 plasma crashes :P
[21:53] <Etriaph> I've been running it for a month with no plasma crashes.
[21:53] <sizziff__> I too had crashes
[21:55] <sizziff__> fonts in 14.04 more better then in 15.04
[21:58] <Adnan> hello
[21:59] <soee> hiho
[21:59] <Adnan> just installed kubuntu 15.04
[21:59] <Adnan> i was ubuntu user till now
[21:59] <GunnDawg> Adnan: And your thoughts? I have yet to install it
[22:00] <murthy> mefisto: are you there?
[22:00] <Adnan> as i said i was ubuntu user, I ran into some problems
[22:01] <Adnan> i can readily install chrome from .deb in ubuntu, but kubuntu has some dependency issues
[22:02] <soee> impossible :)
[22:02] <Adnan> can't install pulseaudio equalizer too :(
[22:04] <Adnan> is there any site similar to askubuntu for kubuntu?
[22:04] <soee> what dependency problems you have ?
[22:04] <Etriaph> Adnan: Ubuntu == Kubuntu with a different desktop choice.
[22:04] <acz32> how are you trying to install them.
[22:04] <acz32> apt-get?
[22:04] <Adnan> first tried to install by double clicking on deb, then from terminal
[22:05] <Adnan> no i did dpkg
[22:05] <acz32> so you went online and downloaded some .deb from the net
[22:05] <Adnan> it was some libgccy11 thingy dependency
[22:05] <acz32> then install it. what's the problem?
[22:05] <Adnan> from official google site :)
[22:06] <Unknown_User> acz32, That's how you install Chrome: https://www.google.com/chrome/browser/desktop/
[22:06] <Adnan> tried to resolve that dependency problem, but terminal says it has no install candidate
[22:06] <Unknown_User> That .deb installs Chrome, then sets up the Google Chrome repo.
[22:06] <acz32> Unknown_User: ok, never used chrome/chromium before
[22:06] <Unknown_User> np
[22:06] <acz32> i would install chromium. that would probably get any dependencies needed for chrome
[22:08] <acz32> but i haven't used either so it's just a guess
[22:08] <Adnan> then what i did was that i shut down my laptop. then after i restarted, the same old "radeon" graphics error pops up on boot
[22:08] <mefisto> murthy: i'm here
[22:08] <murthy> mefisto: dpkg seems to be stuck during the installation of a pulseaudio package. I have just killed the dpkg process and I am running the command dpkg --configure -a. I will check if this works
[22:08] <murthy> mefisto: Can you wait?
[22:08] <Adnan> it can't find a backlight driver for radeon
[22:09] <mefisto> murthy: sure
[22:09] <Adnan> i can wait... it's just that now I have to force power down my laptop 3~4 times to get the display
[22:09] <murthy> mefisto: I think i found the problem
[22:10] <Adnan> pray tell
[22:12] <Unknown_User> Adnan, Heh. I'm having trouble with the radeon driver, too. If I switch the input on my DisplayPort monitor, X crashes and can't be restarted.
[22:13] <Unknown_User> Didn't happen with 14.whatever
[22:13] <Adnan> even though kernel 3.19 is supposed to clear these things up
[22:13] <mefisto> murthy: when you killed dpkg did that stop the installer gui?
[22:14] <murthy> mefisto: I think yes. but that is not needed
[22:15] <Adnan> software center can't find psensor... seriously?
[22:22] <murthy> tarator_: try sudo dpkg-reconfigure --all
[22:38] <Etriaph> tarator_: Chat in here about this issue.
[22:38] <tarator_> Intel HD 4000 ... and I installed Intel graphics driver from their homepage...
[22:38] <tarator_> on kubuntu 14.10....
[22:40] <tarator_> there should be an error-message somewhere... which logfile could I check?
[22:41] <Etriaph> I would start with .xsession-errors
[22:41] <Etriaph> Although, you're seeing it in sddm too
[22:42] <tarator_> in /var/log/sddm.log I get: QSGTextureAtlas: texture atlas allocation failed, code=501
[22:42] <rosco_y> I just installed 14.04, and everything looked fine until I (foolishly) changed my wallpaper. Now, after a restart, the wallpaper is back to the default, albeit a little cut up around the edges, and the popup menu for the desktop no longer works--doesn't anyone recommend not installing the NVIDIA proprietary drivers?
[22:43] <rosco_y> I'm currently using the default drivers, which seemed fine
[22:43] <rosco_y> I'm not a gamer, so I don't need perfomance graphics
[22:43] <rosco_y> I am using multiple displays, and I rotate one of them 90 degrees
[22:44] <rosco_y> Is anyone having good/bad luck with the NVIDIA drivers?
[22:44] <rosco_y> I know I've been frustrated with them in the past.
[22:45] <rosco_y> I just want a solid system that doesn't need to be rebuilt every week.
[22:45] <GunnDawg> rosco_y: I am using the 346 Nvidia Drivers with no issues.
[22:46] <murthy> rosco_y: I am using the nvidia binary driver
[22:46] <rosco_y> GunnDawg: ty.
[22:46] <rosco_y> murthy: are you finding it easy to configure?
[22:46] <murthy> rosco_y: Configure what?
[22:46] <Etriaph> rosco_y: Me too, no issues here.
[22:46] <rosco_y> I'm afraid by installing too much stuff that I don't need, I'll make my system fragil
[22:47] <rosco_y> I guess the issues I had in the past were related to configuring multiple displays
[22:47] <JeZxLee> anyone using encrypted LVM ? when I turn on my desktop, Kubuntu 15.04 ask for encryption passphrase 2 times ?
[22:47] <GunnDawg> rosco_y: I also run multiple displays. Just open up the Display Manager and arrange the monitors how you need them
[22:47] <rosco_y> ok, now I'm remembering. I was able to set them up in the nvidia software, but I had to do it everytime I started my system
[22:48] <murthy> JeZxLee: I think its a known issue
[22:48] <rosco_y> GunnDawg: I was using the Display Manager like your mentioning--it was working great, now it's suddenly getting wacked up.
[22:48] <GunnDawg> rosco_y: configure them in nvidia software, then hit the Save to X Configuration File. Then the settings should stick. I had the same issue
[22:49] <rosco_y> GunnDawg: Thank you. I think I will try them. In the worst case I'll have to reinstall ubuntu, doesn't take that long--just read a book for awhile....
[22:49] <rosco_y> Thank you GunnDawg, murthy--your feedback has helped!
[22:49] <GunnDawg> rosco_y: no problem
[22:49] <murthy> yw
[23:00] <murthy> Upgraded my primary install to15.04. Its the best OS i have ever used till now. My heartly thanks to team Kubuntu, team kde and all those who worked hard to make this possible.
[23:06] <tarator_> ok... good night... I'm gonna do a complete reinstall tomorrow....
[23:08] <acz32> murthy: it does look pretty good from the screenshots i've seen
[23:09] <murthy> acz32: beauty, performance, functionality....
[23:09] <GunnDawg> I've read good and bad reviews since releaes and scared to tamper with my 14.04 install
[23:10] <Unknown_User> GunnDawg, None of my KDE4 settings were imported.
[23:10] <Unknown_User> So watch out for that.
[23:10] <GunnDawg> Unknown_User: I kind of figured that. I'd probably fresh install anyways if I went to 15.04. Would not expect any carry over
[23:11] <murthy> I am going to post some screenshots of 15.04 on google plus pages
[23:11] <Unknown_User> GunnDawg, I totally expected carryover. The same folks wrote both pieces of software; they should know how to carry over settings.
[23:11] <Unknown_User> It's inexcusable.
[23:12] <GunnDawg> Unknown_User: I suppose so. I've never given it much thought as I very rarely do in place upgrades on ANY of my operating systems. It's always been a fresh install for me.
[23:13] <Unknown_User> GunnDawg, I've only done in-place upgrades on my Linux systems. That's a pre-req for any Linux distro that I use. It's too much of a pain otherwise. :)
[23:13] <Unknown_User> I mean, if Gentoo can manage it... ;)
[23:13] <GunnDawg> Unknown_User: I'd have to upgrade to 14.10 and then to 15.04 anyways if I were to do an in place upgrade right? Not worth it imo
[23:13] * Unknown_User has been using the same Gentoo install since 1.4 (~2003)
[23:14] <Unknown_User> GunnDawg, I have no idea about the upgrade path from older than 14.10 to 15.04. One would think that you'd be able to do it all in one swoop, but who knows. (Certainly not I.)
[23:14] <GunnDawg> I've been told I cannot upgrade from 14.04 to 15.04 but instead would need to upgrade to 14.10 beforehand.
[23:14] <Unknown_User> I mean, realistically, there's no reason to *not* be able to upgrade from any vaguely-recent old version to the newest one. :P
[23:15] <Unknown_User> [But, I'm not in charge of making the Ubuntu upgrade plans. :P \
[23:15] <GunnDawg> Unknown_User: Well dang it. Why not?! ;)
[23:16] <Unknown_User> Eyenoe, rite?
[23:30] <nfk> i'm sure i'm not the first one, kf5/plasma2 has gone bonkers, please help
[23:32] <nfk> was learning the system just fine when it crashed and did not restart on its own so i did killall -u myself to get back to sddm and now when i log in i'm greeted by black screen, restored windows that were open before stuff happened and systemsettings5 annoys me with some message about having no saved states or something
[23:32] <nfk> worst yet the fubar was probably not under .kde/ that i have backed by git so i'm basically hopelessly effed
[23:33] <Unknown_User> Yeah, I've had KDE not save its state upon system shutdown. Not sure what that's about.
[23:34] <nfk> more importantly, how do i get back to something working? at this point i don't mind nuking stuff, just not my whole user data so i need some precision guidance by someone who knows where stuff is
[23:34] <Unknown_User> Super unsure why you'd break the reliability of configuration persistence, but I'm not in charge. :)
[23:34] <nfk> me?
[23:34] <Unknown_User> nfk, Maybe ask at #kde or maybe #kde-devel?
[23:35] <Unknown_User> nfk, No. Not you. I meant "you" in the "one" sense. Sorry.
[23:35] <nfk> those places are always totally helpful </sarcasm>
[23:35] <Unknown_User> *shrug* If you want to know the nitty gritty of KDE's config files, that's where I'd go. Just be patient and all. :)
[23:35] <Unknown_User> Maybe the mailing lists, too.
[23:36] <nfk> i'm not sure if i have ever received a response on something i have asked in the past and i have waited for many hours and repeated the questions multiple days in a row
[23:37] <Unknown_User> *shrug* I've had good results in the past. Helps to have a very precise question and to also pose the question when someone who knows is on. (Obviously, that second part is the same as saying "It helps to be lucky." ;) )
[23:38] <nfk> it's hard to be precise when some windows flickered and then plasma 2 had an empty panel that neatly animated itself away to never come back
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[01:30] <asac> fionnan: i think stuff is coming along... most recent image should work fine with docker
[06:22] <davidcalle> asac, hey, still around?
[06:57] <dholbach> good morning
[07:00] <dholbach> salut davidcalle, mon ami - ça va?
[07:01] <davidcalle> dholbach, hey Daniel, I'm great, and you?
[07:02] <dholbach> doing well as well - thanks :)
[07:03] <dholbach> asac, HAPPY BIRTHDAY! :)
[07:03] <dholbach> davidcalle, I think I'll go through the BBB docs again
[07:03] <davidcalle> Dammit, we actually need to make him happy. I was planning on slacking most of the day.
[07:04] <davidcalle> Happy birthday asac :)
[07:04] <dholbach> damn, you're right :)
[07:04] <davidcalle> dholbach, I've started on updating the porting guide, then I'll do the appliance builder one.
[07:05] <dholbach> ok cool
[07:05] <dholbach> did you fix the ova instructions?
[07:06] <davidcalle> dholbach, nope, I'm still a bit confused about what/how to fix.
[07:06] <dholbach> ok... I'll take a look at that too
[07:56] <dholbach> mvo, shall I try with a different channel then edge?
[07:56] <mvo> dholbach: its not working for you?
[07:56] <mvo> dholbach: do you have a serial cable to test?
[07:56] <dholbach> no, I'm afraid I don't have a serial cable
[07:56] <dholbach> although somebody might in the office
[07:59] <dholbach> does http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-snappy/15.04/edge/ubuntu-15.04-snappy-armhf-bbb.img.xz work?
[08:10] <dholbach> utlemming, rcj: can you give us a few more instructions on how to factor http://blog.utlemming.org/2015/01/snappy-images-for-vagrant.html into developer.ubuntu.com/snappy/start?
[08:10] <dholbach> I'm not sure we have all the information here
[08:11] <dholbach> or http://blog.utlemming.org/2015/04/using-snappy-ova-images-when-you-dont.html
[08:12] <dholbach> asac, davidcalle and I are around when you are
[08:13] <dholbach> davidcalle, man, I'm so glad I'm working together with you on this :)
[08:13] <davidcalle> dholbach, same!
[08:14] <dholbach> and with the other hippies in here :)
[08:15] <dholbach> mvo, so I'm trying this image now, but dd'ing it (and syncing) just takes some millisecond
[08:15] <dholbach> I feel like something doesn't quite work right
[08:21] <dholbach> nevermind, now that I'm doing it right, it's working now - still doesn't boot
[08:27] <mvo> dholbach: yeah, dosn't boot for me either
[08:28] <mvo> sergiusens: did anything change in u-d-f that might cause issues with beaglebone boots? I can't boot it with a freshly written image currently and I wonder what is going on. I get http://paste.ubuntu.com/10870157/
[08:33] <dholbach> trying http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-snappy/15.04/20150422/ubuntu-15.04-snappy-armhf-bbb.img.xz
[08:45] <dholbach> mvo, ^ works
[08:45] <dholbach> I just had to try to ssh into all machines on the network
[08:45] <dholbach> that took a while :)
[08:46] <dholbach> I'll run snappy update now to see what's new and if that works
[08:47] <dholbach> davidcalle, ^ getting there
[08:47] <davidcalle> dholbach, \o/
[09:02] <dholbach> davidcalle, snappy tour updated *\o/*
[09:05] <dholbach> mvo, 15.04/20150422 works
[09:05] <dholbach> I updated it to the latest and updated the snappy tour docs, so that's all fine
[09:11] <dholbach> davidcalle, I'll comment out the webdm stuff on the /start page
[09:12] <davidcalle> dholbach, ok. I'm not linking it from the Guides page, but still leaving it in the top list of subpages. I think that's an okay middle-ground.
[09:13] <davidcalle> (it = the whole webdm page)
[09:13] <dholbach> +1
[09:18] <davidcalle> dholbach, what do you think of https://developer.ubuntu.com/en/snappy/guides/?
[09:21] <dholbach> <3 <3 <3
[09:22] <dholbach> beautiful work
[09:23] <davidcalle> dholbach, cool :)
[09:24] <dholbach> davidcalle, I'm running linkchecker over the namespace
[09:25] <davidcalle> dholbach, uh oh :)
[09:25] <dholbach> not too bad - just one link broken :)
[09:25] <mvo> dholbach: still fails for me, I think my bbb is broken
[09:25] <dholbach> fixing
[09:26] <dholbach> mvo, with the 22 image it worked, but it took a while to boot... and as I said: I needed to loop over all IPs in the subnet to ssh into it (but that might be a office network specific thing that I couldn't find "webdm")
[09:28] <mvo> asac: feedback for https://code.launchpad.net/~mvo/snappy-hub/snappy-examples-oem-hardware-snap/+merge/256800 would be great and for https://code.launchpad.net/~mvo/snappy-hub/snappy-examples-hwassign/+merge/257231
[09:28] <mvo> asac: we may want those example in unless they are superseeded by your applicance guide work of course
[09:34] <davidcalle> dholbach, have you started on https://trello.com/c/L6sBYZqC/44-start-beagleboard-kvm-instructions-better-download-experience ? If not, I am
[09:34] <dholbach> davidcalle, can do
[09:37] <pitti> mvo: guten Morgen!
[09:37] * pitti puts up his "do source new review on release day for beer" cardboard sign
[09:37] <mvo> hey pitti
[09:37] <dholbach> mvo, pitti's cheap
[09:37] <pitti> I didn't say how much :0
[09:38] <mvo> pitti: ahah, I will wait for steve then ;)
[09:38] <dpm> dholbach, davidcalle, looking at the start page, good work with the download boxes for the images. Do you mind if I change the top text to e.g. "Download KVM images" instead of "Image links" to make it more clear?
[09:38] <mvo> pitti: sorry, I know its terrible
[09:38] <dholbach> dpm, sure
[09:38] <dpm> ok
[09:39] <davidcalle> dpm, +1
[09:39] <dpm> ok, on it, then
[09:39] <dholbach> :)
[09:40] <davidcalle> dpm, since you are touching it, do you mind moving them to the top right of their sections?
[09:40] <dpm> davidcalle, sure
[09:40] <davidcalle> dpm, thanks!
[09:43] <pitti> mvo: can you please fix the "Vcs:" tag in bzr? It's spelled Vcs-Bzr:
[09:43] <mvo> pitti: silly me, sure
[09:44] <pitti> mvo: (no need to reupload, just for next time)
[09:45] <pitti> mvo: also, would you mind adding a standard copyright/license headers to the .c files? there's no COPYING, the only license/copyright ATM is in debian/
[09:45] <pitti> which is fine for a native Debian package, but it's not "upstreamable" or distriubtable as a tarball that way
[09:45] <mvo> yeah, indeed, I fix that now too, thanks pitti
[09:46] <pitti> mvo: why do we need debian/dirs, OOI?
[09:47] <mvo> pitti: I think I actually don't need them anymore, iirc the makefile was not that smart initially but thats fixed
[09:47] <pitti> dh_install and dh_apparmor etc. sohuld also create missing dirs
[09:49] <pitti> mvo: ok, accepted; I'll do the binNEW in a bit when it's built
[09:49] <mvo> pitti: \o/
[09:49] <mvo> pitti: and I fix the issues
[09:49] <pitti> mvo: cheers
[09:50] <dpm> dholbach, davidcalle, done
[09:51] <dpm> ah, wait, the bbb box is still missing
[09:51] <dpm> on it
[09:53] <pitti> mvo: FTR, it's depwait on arm64/ppc64el because of missing seccomp
[09:53] <pitti> mvo: IIRC arm64 is a snappy target, so we have to sort that out in wanking
[09:53] <pitti> or wobbly, or whizzy, or whatever 15.10 will be :)
[09:54] <asac> mvo: yes those examples are good; i am not sure though if we want to tell the world to use the oem.snap to ship executables too
[09:54] <asac> mvo: so hw-assign for sure
[09:54] <asac> the other ... maybe superseeded or make a smaller pair than the demo
[09:55] <asac> davidcalle: dholbach: o/
[09:55] * dholbach hugs asac
[09:55] <asac> davidcalle: dholbach: seems the list in docs TODO is significantly shorter now!
[09:56] <asac> davidcalle: dholbach: anything to crunch througjh/review first thing now?
[09:56] <pitti> mvo: binNEWed, and infinity unblocked it, so it should hit vivid in a few
[09:56] <davidcalle> asac, yeah, we deleted a lot of cruft ;-)
[09:56] <mvo> pitti: \o/
[09:56] <dholbach> asac, still a bit unsure on what to land wrt OVA
[09:56] <davidcalle> asac, and Vagrant
[09:58] <davidcalle> asac, I've also added a comment for you on https://trello.com/c/L6sBYZqC/44-start-beagleboard-kvm-instructions-better-download-experience , that's pretty much it, afaik
[10:00] <asac> davidcalle: yeah, so i think having two commands might be confusing... but we should explain that this command is getting XXX and that other options are avail on the right
[10:00] <davidcalle> asac, ok, I think that's a good middle-ground
[10:01] <dholbach> +1
[10:01] <asac> davidcalle: on the beaglebone start i think this paragraph has to go now that webdm isnt highlighted there anymore: Try exploring the store and install one of the available snapps. If you have your own snapp you would like to publish, simply upload through the Ubuntu Software Store. Alternatively, as a developer you can also sideload snapps manually.
[10:01] <asac> then it reads nice
[10:02] <asac> davidcalle: so after the 1-2 minutes wait you can access it with ssh and start with the walkthrough
[10:02] <dholbach> asac, but snaps are still "in the store"
[10:02] <dholbach> "snappy search" will search the store, no?
[10:03] <asac> dholbach: sure you could rephrase it ... but i would put the ssh into it first
[10:03] <asac> because you cannot explore store unless you have anything :)
[10:03] <dholbach> right
[10:03] <asac> so 1. wait 1-2 munutes; 2. ssh into it; 3. if you want explore the store with snappy search or go for the tour
[10:03] <asac> :)
[10:03] <dholbach> davidcalle, do you want me to try to rephrase it?
[10:03] <davidcalle> dholbach, sure :)
[10:03] <dholbach> ok
[10:04] <davidcalle> dpm, thanks for the boxes!
[10:06] <dholbach> ok, done
[10:07] <davidcalle> dholbach, lgtm
[10:07] <dholbach> done - ship it!
[10:09] <dpm> davidcalle, finished, added a Raspi 2 box too
[10:09] <davidcalle> dpm, looking good, thanks
[10:10] <asac> davidcalle: dholbach: how do you want to coordinate final updartes? trello cards or pings here?
[10:10] <asac> its just a tweak here and there like making a link etc.
[10:11] <mvo> can someone give me a hint how to generate a raspi2 snappy image? I guess I need the oem part of lool?
[10:11] <beuno> mvo, that part should be in the store, FWIW
[10:12] <dholbach> asac, as you like it
[10:13] <asac> davidcalle: dholbach: so on the appluiance guiide we should urlify this paragraph a bit:
[10:13] <asac> "As this guide makes intentional use of a very broad set of primitives provided by snappy Ubuntu Core 15.04, we recommend you make yourself familiar with how to setup a beaglebone as well as our various other guides and docs about the internals of a snappy system."
[10:13] <asac> "how to setup a beaglebone" -> link to /start#beagle...
[10:13] <asac> "various other guides" -> link to the guides landing page
[10:13] <davidcalle> asac, right
[10:13] <beuno> mvo, pi2.lool
[10:14] <asac> davidcalle: think a link to the tutorials landing page too somewhere... mayber for that rephrase the sentence so it make sense and point them to all major entry points
[10:14] <mvo> beuno: thanks, building now
[10:14] <dholbach> dpm, ^ maybe we could make the nav bar more obvious in general?
[10:14] <asac> davidcalle: next "assignment basically works in two steps:" ... there are bullets under that
[10:15] <asac> that looks a bit messy ... also on appliance guide
[10:15] <asac> guess you will see and know how to make better when olooking
[10:15] <asac> dholbach: yeah the navbar is pretty good though, but i think having that stuff embedded in that paragraph is also good
[10:15] <asac> it was made for that reason :)
[10:15] <asac> we could also explain to look to the top of the page to find the nice navbar if that helps :P
[10:16] <dpm> dholbach, which nav bar?
[10:16] <dholbach> dpm, the one on developer.u.c
[10:16] <dpm> you mean the TOC thing we put in the start page?
[10:16] <dholbach> dpm, the one which shows "Guides Tutorials etc."
[10:16] <utlemming> dholbach: just got up
[10:17] <dholbach> dpm, when I showed the bar to people at the sprint who hadn't used dev.u.c before some said they had never noticed the navbar
[10:17] <sergiusens> mvo: only thing that happened was a rebuild
[10:17] <utlemming> dholbach: I'm a bit unclear what you need for integration.
[10:17] <dholbach> I just thought asac's comment was similar in that regard
[10:17] <dholbach> utlemming, me too :)
[10:17] <dpm> dholbach, you mean the breadcrumbs?
[10:17] <sergiusens> mvo: well and a change from default channel from edge t stable
[10:17] <mvo> sergiusens: I think its my hardware
[10:17] <dholbach> dpm, yes
[10:17] <sergiusens> mvo: are you the only one?
[10:18] <dpm> dholbach, that'd be a question for the web team, we're using their navigation patterns
[10:18] <dholbach> ok, nvm then
[10:18] <mvo> beuno: hm, I get a error that pi2.lool can not be found in the store is it available for rolling?
[10:18] <asac> dholbach: utlemming: will you guys talk to sort out OVA and vagrant sections?
[10:18] <asac> mvo: lool has it in a people dir too i think
[10:18] <dholbach> utlemming, I'm not quite sure which of your blog posts to take and which bits to integrate to explain it well to users
[10:18] <dholbach> asac, we are talking about it now
[10:18] <asac> mvo: and its linked from the Pi2 instructions directly too
[10:18] <asac> dholbach: good
[10:18] <asac> :)
[10:19] <beuno> mvo, it isn't, not even for 15.04 :) https://myapps.developer.ubuntu.com/dev/click-apps/2332/
[10:19] <beuno> but you can download it from there, if you just want the .snap
[10:19] <asac> mvo: https://code.launchpad.net/%7Elool/+junk/pi2.lool/
[10:19] <asac> mvo: http://people.canonical.com/~lool/pi2-device-and-oem/
[10:20] <mvo> lool: could you set https://myapps.developer.ubuntu.com/dev/click-apps/2332/releases/ please?
[10:21] <asac> mvo: he is off
[10:21] <mvo> asac: thanks!
[10:21] <asac> beuno: ^^
[10:23] <davidcalle> asac, appliance guide fixed, thanks :)
[10:23] <beuno> asac, mvo, I can fiddle with it in the admin, but maybe its better to re-upload under the shared account, instead of lool's personal one?
[10:23] <asac> davidcalle: so the appliance guide also has bunch of things taht could be nice inline <code> formatted
[10:24] <asac> davidcalle: like where we refer to "video0" or "/dev/..." or "some command" inline
[10:24] <asac> not sure if you want to eyeball over it and do what you can spot ... maybe there is more important stuff to do
[10:24] <asac> surely cosmetic
[10:25] <dholbach> utlemming, if people expect to run ubuntu core in a vm locally (and not kvm), what should we recommend to them?
[10:25] <davidcalle> asac, since it has long paragraphs, that's important to make these stand out, I'll take care of it.
[10:26] * davidcalle is afk for a moment
[10:26] <dholbach> utlemming, I can see your vagrant instructions - shall I update the vagrant bits with http://blog.utlemming.org/2015/01/snappy-images-for-vagrant.html?
[10:26] <dholbach> utlemming, and for ova (many will probably expect to download the images and just doubleclick them to get them working with virtualbox), shall I integrate everything from http://blog.utlemming.org/2015/04/using-snappy-ova-images-when-you-dont.html?
[10:26] <dholbach> (or rather the first part of the latteR)
[10:27] <utlemming> dholbach: yeah, update the vagrant bits with the instructions
[10:27] <dholbach> asac, ^ do you have an opinion too?
[10:27] <dholbach> utlemming, ok, looking into it
[10:28] <asac> dholbach: if utlemming has an opinion i am agreeing with him :)
[10:28] <asac> if not i always have an opinion on everuything as you know :P
[10:28] <asac> to fill the opinion gaps of the world :P
[10:29] <asac> davidcalle: so https://developer.ubuntu.com/en/snappy/guides/architecture/ i think we could have links below the nice graphics that link to intersting pages for the individual elements
[10:30] <asac> davidcalle: like links about apps, about frameworks, about oem snap, about enablement (guess porting for now until we have omething better), and to the appliance guide
[10:30] <asac> for the overall system
[10:30] <asac> (just as an idea so the reader finds more info where he wants to deep dive
[10:30] <utlemming> dholbach: I just realized that the links in my blog were bad on the bottom for the Vagrant instructions. I've updated them.
[10:31] <dholbach> utlemming, are we going to add stable as well?
[10:32] <utlemming> dholbach: yes, stable is building now
[10:32] <dholbach> yeehaw!
[10:32] <dholbach> thanks a lot utlemming!
[10:32] <asac> davidcalle: so on our guides landing page (which looks pretty awesome tbh with good content) https://developer.ubuntu.com/en/snappy/guides/
[10:33] <asac> davidcalle: can we make the lower list have the same nice graphics fopr the bullets as the upper one?
[10:33] <dholbach> asac, I'll take care of it - davidcalle is gone for a bit (probaby looking after his sick kid)
[10:33] <asac> oha
[10:33] <asac> thanks
[10:34] <dholbach> utlemming, check the vagrant section again and let me know if it's better
[10:34] <dholbach> asac, looking after the guides page now
[10:34] <asac> dholbach: also those nice boxes referring to our big guides could look even nicer if we would put a nice "education" icon from the official ubuntu icon set there (dont know if hwe have that, but i am sure we must have something for tutorials)
[10:34] <asac> those boxes at the bottom
[10:35] <dholbach> asac, bullet points fixed
[10:35] <utlemming> dholbach: looks better, thanks
[10:35] <dholbach> utlemming, rock and roll
[10:35] <asac> dholbach: so i wonder ... maybe the tutorials should also become guides and go into simillara boxes at the end of tghe guides page?
[10:35] <asac> dholbach: https://developer.ubuntu.com/en/snappy/guides/
[10:35] <dholbach> utlemming, should I provide the information about the cloud config bits?
[10:35] <asac> dholbach: https://developer.ubuntu.com/en/snappy/tutorials/
[10:35] <asac> err
[10:35] <asac> they look pretty sparse and its not clear to me what they are difference
[10:36] <asac> dholbach: so we have just overivew, get started, guides, participate on top level hierachy
[10:36] <dholbach> asac, guides are supposed to be explanatory, taking you by the hand and explaining the world from snappy's eyes - tutorials are step by step instructions to get something done
[10:37] <dholbach> asac, https://design.ubuntu.com/wp-content/uploads/pictogram-help-orange-hex.svg
[10:37] <dholbach> asac, https://design.ubuntu.com/wp-content/uploads/pictogram-education-orange-hex.svg
[10:38] <dholbach> were you looking for any of these? ^ and where would you put them?
[10:38] <dholbach> which boxes were you referring to? the image/channel link boxes?
[10:47] <asac> mvo: i can make a port forward for you to look at my appliance
[10:47] <asac> that is in the broken state
[10:48] <mvo> beuno, asac: I uploaded pi2 as https://myapps.developer.ubuntu.com/dev/click-apps/2436/
[10:48] <beuno> mvo, ask for a manual review
[10:48] <dholbach> utlemming, vagrant instructions confirmed to be working - thanks
[10:49] <asac> mvo: i have no permissions, but that is fine i hope
[10:49] <beuno> mvo, ready to publish
[10:50] <mvo> asac: what exactly should I do? fix it? what application is that? can I install it locally somehow? (I try to make my pi2 work right now9
[10:50] <mvo> )
[10:52] <asac> mvo: there are a few things i wnated to show you
[10:53] <asac> a) right now the appliance was put together and the seccomp parts for arm were not picked up
[10:53] <asac> if i install the app again with the board running it will work
[10:53] <asac> b) howver it will not work with the current udev rule ... which is kinda the same as the one generated with hw-assign
[10:53] <asac> which would then work again
[10:54] <mvo> asac: yeah, that might be the need for a updated ubuntu-core-snappy-seccomp in the ppa/system?
[10:54] <asac> mvo: so i guess i can give you a login and you could observe those things
[10:54] <mvo> asac: yes, I am happy to do that
[10:54] <mvo> asac: (b) is strange
[10:54] <asac> mvo: could be, but i think it might be tricky... i have the feeling it has to do with the fact that thos are ARM specific syscalls
[10:54] <asac> and our seccomp compiler is not good at crossing
[10:54] <asac> tyhicks: jdstrand: ^ would have to check that i am sure
[10:55] <asac> mvo: ok gimme a sec i will give you details and we can talk in /msg :)
[10:55] <mvo> asac: ohhh, if its checking hte architecture its running on, that will not work. it need to generate all syscalls everytime :/
[10:55] <asac> mvo: right, it might even be built time though if its not a text file
[10:55] <mvo> indeed
[10:56] <asac> e.g. it could be its in an #ifdef __arm__ in the libsecomp binary
[10:56] <mvo> yeah, that would explain the brakage
[10:56] <mvo> but I don't know the code, I guess its best to wait for jamie
[10:57] <rcj> dholbach, the azure instructions will change a bit with naming changes made to incorporate the 'channel' name
[10:59] <dholbach> rcj, if you can provide any pointers or explanation that'd be much appreciated
[10:59] <rcj> dholbach, I emailed you the changes. Bit too complex for irc.
[10:59] <dholbach> utlemming, http://cloud-images.ubuntu.com/snappy/15.04/core/ has stable now
[10:59] <dholbach> utlemming, shall I test it with vagrant and add it to the instructions
[10:59] <dholbach> rcj, thanks, looking
[11:00] <utlemming> dholbach: give me a minute first
[11:00] <dholbach> utlemming, no worries
[11:00] <dholbach> rcj, are there going to be stable images too?
[11:02] <rcj> dholbach, hopefully. The python2 / Azure agent issue is being worked to give us working images.
[11:03] <rcj> dholbach, I'll ping you with that name for the examples when it exists. But for now the 1504 edge is the image for the docs
[11:04] <dholbach> rcj, updated - can you reload and confirm that that's what you expected?
[11:04] <asac> sergiusens: so interesting is that i fell into the trap believeing the the seccomp was still the problem
[11:04] <utlemming> dholbach: the Vagrant Cloud instructions should be "vagrant init ubuntu/ubuntu-15.04-snappy-core-stable"
[11:05] <asac> sergiusens: but turns out that we dont generate the APP_DATA_PAH with udf for built-in stuff properly
[11:05] <asac> is now my prob
[11:05] <asac> sergiusens: mvo said something with writable path overload etc.
[11:05] <asac> sergiusens: you want to log into my bbb and look at the situation?
[11:06] <rcj> dholbach, not seeing updates on my end
[11:06] <dholbach> rcj, ctrl-shift-r (might be the cache)?
[11:06] <dholbach> utlemming, ok cool
[11:08] <rcj> dholbach, I really don't see an update to Azure on http://www.ubuntu.com/cloud/tools/snappy Even loading it on a clean browser w/o cache
[11:08] <dholbach> rcj, sorry
[11:08] <dholbach> rcj, we moved everything over to http://developer.ubuntu.com/snappy/start
[11:08] <dholbach> ... and we'll drop all technical stuff fomr ubuntu.com/cloud/tools/snappy
[11:08] <dholbach> ... and ubuntu.com/things
[11:09] <rcj> dholbach, those look good
[11:09] <dholbach> rcj, <3
[11:09] <dholbach> rcj, are you going to let me (and/or davidcalle) know later on if we will have stable images as well
[11:09] <dholbach> ?
[11:14] <dholbach> utlemming, I updated the vagrant docs again - they now point to stable by default and I added instructions for how to move to 'edge'
[11:15] <dholbach> with that I'd think we'd be done for vagrant
[11:16] <rcj> dholbach, utlemming or I will update you on release day names for cloud images
[11:17] <sergiusens> asac: I think I know what tis is about
[11:17] <sergiusens> asac: on second boot it should be there, if it is, then I know what it is about and I thought it was fixed
[11:17] <dholbach> rcj, today is release day
[11:18] <dholbach> so later on, I guess - can you please ping davidcalle and me - just to be sure one of us can get to it
[11:18] <asac> oh
[11:18] <asac> sergiusens: so i got autopilot reboot ... maybe its now working?
[11:18] <rcj> dholbach, yeah, but they're not released yet (nor do they exist yet) ;)
[11:18] <asac> sergiusens: no it didnt help
[11:18] <sergiusens> asac: if it's there, there's a race of service start and dir creation
[11:18] <asac> sergiusens: let me give you details
[11:18] <rcj> dholbach, we'll keep you updated
[11:18] <sergiusens> oh, it's something else then
[11:19] <dholbach> rcj, thanks muchly
[11:25] <sergiusens> asac: Apr 23 11:14:59 localhost systemd[1]: var-lib-apps.mount: Directory /var/lib/app
[11:25] <sergiusens> s to mount over is not empty, mounting anyway.
[11:25] <sergiusens> asac: that might explain
[11:26] <sergiusens> asac: yeah, that's it
[11:26] <sergiusens> asac: writable-paths might need a fix
[11:27] <asac> sergiusens: is that a udf update?
[11:27] * asac thinks so
[11:27] <asac> i am sure if i remove/install it will work
[11:27] <asac> sergiusens: you need to look more?
[11:27] <asac> or can i try that?
[11:27] <sergiusens> asac: so, a new image is required
[11:27] <sergiusens> asac: I change writable paths myself and rebooted your device
[11:28] <asac> sergiusens: so you umounted, copied what was there and mounted and copied back?
[11:28] <asac> sergiusens: current image still does right thing for parts installed after boot right?
[11:28] <asac> just not preinstall?
[11:29] <sergiusens> asac: so, I mounted read/write, modified /etc/system-image/writable-paths, rm -rf /writable/system-data/var/lib/apps and rebooted
[11:29] <sergiusens> asac: yes
[11:34] <asac> sergiusens: it is running :)
[11:34] <asac> sergiusens: want to see if pluggin in video now just picks it up
[11:34] <mvo> sergiusens: aha, writable-path wrong? that makes sense
[11:34] <mvo> asac: if its up and running I would love to inspect the udev rules
[11:35] <asac> mvo: yes log in again
[11:35] <asac> i will wait with plug in
[11:35] <asac> the udev rule looks good
[11:35] <asac> and i am sure it will match with trigger
[11:35] <asac> but yesterday it wasnt picked up ... e.g. access still denied
[11:35] <asac> and hw-assign worked though
[11:35] <asac> tell me when you are in :)
[11:35] <mvo> sergiusens: I upload a new ubuntu-core-config with writable path fix unless you are already on it?
[11:38] <mvo> asac: I'm in and what I see on the filesystem looks good, could you plug in the webcam?
[11:38] <dholbach> utlemming, I integrated your http://blog.utlemming.org/2015/04/using-snappy-ova-images-when-you-dont.html blog post - if we get bugs about it, we'll fix them
[11:38] <utlemming> dholbach: ack, link to the final product?
[11:39] <asac> mvo: ok lets plug :)
[11:39] <asac> mvo: its plugged
[11:40] <asac> mvo: udevadm trigger --verbose --dry-run -
[11:40] <asac> /sys/devices/platform/ocp/47400000.usb/47401c00.usb/musb-hdrc.1.auto/usb1/1-1/1-1:1.0/video4linux/video0
[11:40] <asac> err
[11:40] <dholbach> utlemming, https://developer.ubuntu.com/en/snappy/start/
[11:40] <sergiusens> mvo: please do, I broke something
[11:40] <asac> mvo: $ udevadm trigger --verbose --dry-run --tag-match=snappy-assign
[11:40] <asac> /sys/devices/platform/ocp/47400000.usb/47401c00.usb/musb-hdrc.1.auto/usb1/1-1/1-1:1.0/video4linux/video0
[11:40] <sergiusens> mvo: so I changed none to transition for /var/lib/apps
[11:41] <sergiusens> mvo: maybe we should change all of these paths to transition
[11:41] <asac> mvo: but look at sudo systemctl status -l webcam-demo_webcam-demo_1.0.1.service
[11:41] <asac> mvo: operatoin not permitted
[11:41] <asac> mvo: so it is not perfect
[11:41] <asac> even if you remove the ATTRS part of the rule it will not work
[11:41] <dholbach> davidcalle, looking into 1447422
[11:41] <asac> buyyt if you now run hw-assign it wuill start working again
[11:42] <asac> mvo: any clue?
[11:42] <asac> mvo: maybe we need to do a udevadm trigger settle etc. still?
[11:43] <asac> mvo: very ood
[11:43] <mvo> asac: I think I found the bug :( a typo in the apparmor rules, let me fix
[11:43] <asac> i think it shot ONE picture
[11:43] <asac> Apr 23 11:41:12 localhost.localdomain ubuntu-core-launcher[678]: Disabling the the banner.
[11:43] <asac> Apr 23 11:41:12 localhost.localdomain ubuntu-core-launcher[678]: Writing JPEG image to 'shot.jpeg'
[11:43] <asac> but then stopped doing it
[11:43] <asac> very odd
[11:43] <asac> very odd
[11:43] <asac> not sure how to get complete log
[11:44] <asac> maybe it worked but then something disabled it after a bit
[11:44] <asac> mvo: its great that you found the bug!!!
[11:44] <asac> not :(
[11:44] <mvo> asac: look at it, it works now
[11:45] <mvo> asac: well, you need to be video group or root but
[11:45] <asac> mvo: well look at the service log
[11:45] <asac> it still doesnt work
[11:45] <asac> mvo: do i need to restart that
[11:45] <mvo> asac: where is the service log?
[11:45] <mvo> asac: oh, nevermind
[11:45] <asac> sudo systemctl status -l webcam-demo_webcam-demo_1.0.1.service
[11:45] <asac> i wanted this to start working :)
[11:45] <asac> but if you hacked apparmor maybe we need to restart it
[11:45] <asac> mvo: buut if you started from command line, first stop
[11:45] <mvo> $ sudo systemctl restart webcam-demo_webcam-demo_1.0.1.service
[11:46] <asac> then kill all stuff still running from your cli
[11:46] <asac> and then start
[11:46] <asac> the cli thing leaves stuff behind
[11:46] <asac> if you ctrl-c it ... its a dirty script :)
[11:47] <asac> mvo: right so there is a problem the jkpeg is black
[11:47] <mvo> asac: so is it working now? the systemctl seems to be happy?
[11:47] <mvo> asac: oh
[11:47] <asac> but i am sure its because you left stuff over
[11:47] <asac> mvo: you see the JPEG error?
[11:47] <asac> thats a prob
[11:47] <asac> let me stop
[11:47] <asac> and kill all and start
[11:47] <mvo> Apr 23 11:47:21 localhost.localdomain ubuntu-core-launcher[2879]: VIDIOC_DQBUF: No such device
[11:47] <asac> right
[11:47] <asac> its racy
[11:47] <asac> because your CLI left stuff over
[11:47] <asac> the CLI is only for debvugging
[11:47] <asac> i shall remove it asap
[11:49] <davidcalle> dholbach, ok, doing fixes on the appliance guide (fyi, I'm going to keep being on and off for ~1h)
[11:49] <asac> mvo: weird
[11:49] <asac> Apr 23 11:49:15 localhost.localdomain ubuntu-core-launcher[3231]: GD Error: gd-jpeg: JPEG library reports unrecoverable error: Not a JPEG file: starts with 0xea 0x2cCaptured frame in 0.00 seconds.
[11:49] <asac> i still get that
[11:49] <asac> maybe reboot
[11:49] <asac> or replug
[11:49] <asac> let me replug first :)
[11:49] <mvo> ok
[11:49] <asac> ok unplugged
[11:50] <asac> log is as expected
[11:50] <asac> nope
[11:50] <asac> ok let me reboot
[11:50] <asac> and laeve it plugged :)
[11:50] <asac> if all is good it should just start working
[11:51] * asac decides its good to also power the board properly
[11:51] <dholbach> davidcalle, I might run out for lunch in a bit - dpm, mhall119: will you be around if there are last minute docs changes for the snappy pages?
[11:51] <asac> mvo: it works :)
[11:52] <mvo> asac: yay!
[11:52] <dpm> dholbach, I will be. Anything in particular we should watch for?
[11:52] <asac> mvo: look at the shoot.jpeg in a few secs
[11:52] <mhall119> dholbach: I won't be, about to get lunch myself and then leaving for Bluefin
[11:52] <mvo> asac: ok, so we need one ubuntu-core-config fix and one snappy fix, both are already done so we just need to get a new image and a new u-d-f
[11:52] <dholbach> asac, rcj, utlemming, mvo, slangasek: please ping davidcalle and dpm and me if you have changes which should go to developer.ubuntu.com/snappy/*
[11:52] <dholbach> mhall119, gotcha
[11:53] <dholbach> dpm, pings :)
[11:53] <kickinz1> asac: owncloud ko on new bbb r33 image...
[11:53] <dpm> ok :)
[11:53] <asac> kickinz1: yes because of bad path
[11:53] <asac> writable
[11:53] <kickinz1> asac: ok reading scrollback
[11:53] <asac> sergiusens: does the writable path work
[11:53] <asac> if you reboot
[11:53] <asac> and install?
[11:53] * asac wonders when this regressed
[11:54] <asac> kickinz1: so maybe uninstall, reboot, install fixes it
[11:54] <asac> kickinz1: for all software
[11:54] <asac> dont install on first boot
[11:54] <asac> weird
[11:54] <asac> though
[11:56] <sergiusens> asac: it might of regressed when we removed click as the hooks tok care of these things iirc
[11:59] <asac> Chipaca: around?
[11:59] <Chipaca> asac: yarp
[11:59] <asac> i have finished the guide... could yuo maybe do a quick read and do sggestions again?
[12:00] <asac> Chipaca: page 17 onwards is new
[12:00] <asac> the rest is unchanged
[12:01] <asac> davidcalle: dholbach: so the guide got finished... Chipaca is doing some first round of wordsmithing and then i will hand it over for integration. new is from page 17
[12:02] <asac> davidcalle: i made a final section "Question" where we should put our standard boilerplate on how to get in ocontact like on the porting guide
[12:10] <Chipaca> asac: you know what would be cool? being able to express in hardware.yaml "when this device gets plugged in, start that service"
[12:10] <davidcalle> asac, which guide is it?
[12:12] <davidcalle> Chipaca, ^
[12:13] <Chipaca> asac: first pass complete. Any resemblance to real persons, living or dead is purely coincidental. Void where prohibited. Some assembly may be required. Batteries not included. Contents may settle during shipment. Use only as directed. May be too intense for some viewers.
[12:13] <Chipaca> davidcalle: it's not my link to hand out :-/
[12:14] <davidcalle> Chipaca, well, is it the appliance webcam guide or something else?
[12:14] <asac> Chipaca: lol
[12:14] <Chipaca> davidcalle: yes, it's the webcam thing
[12:15] <davidcalle> Chipaca, thanks :)
[12:17] <davidcalle> asac, please don't validate chipaca changes on the doc, I need them for my fixes :)
[12:17] <davidcalle> Well validate/accept suggestions
[12:21] <davidcalle> Hmm, actually you can if you want, since this is all new text (/me grabs more coffee)
[12:23] <Chipaca> davidcalle: the first paragraph i think was there last night
[12:23] <Chipaca> but i spotted things in it that were wrong so :)
[12:25] <utlemming> dholbach: AMI ID's for AWS: http://paste.ubuntu.com/10871048/
[12:28] <asac> davidcalle: oh
[12:28] <asac> davidcalle: i thought it was all new
[12:28] <asac> davidcalle: i added a marker of all new stuff
[12:28] <asac> you can just replace that
[12:28] <asac> or append
[12:29] <asac> at most there is one paragraph that was already there
[12:29] <asac> with changes
[12:29] <asac> davidcalle: all changes got accepted
[12:29] <asac> ready to go!!
[12:29] <asac> further changes i will not apply without telling you
[12:30] <davidcalle> asac :)
[12:36] <utlemming> dpm, davidcalle: can you update the AMI ID's with http://paste.ubuntu.com/10871048/
[12:37] * dpm looks
[12:37] <davidcalle> dpm, I can do that after the guide if you want
[12:38] <dpm> davidcalle, sounds good. Can I leave it in your hands, then?
[12:39] <davidcalle> dpm, yeah
[12:41] <dpm> thanks
[12:47] <asac> davidcalle: dholbach: are you guys done with everything?
[12:47] <asac> davidcalle: dholbach: if so the snappy tour could get some further attention
[12:47] <asac> it is a bit unclean right now as is
[12:48] <asac> but dont want to detour other stuff we already discussed
[12:52] <davidcalle> asac, dholbach has already made a pass on it this morning, could you outline specific points you want changed?
[12:53] <davidcalle> asac, in the meantime, I still have a couple things to finish
[12:54] <asac> ok let me look at latest tour
[12:59] <asac> davidcalle: dholbach: who is coordinating with peter the updaste of website?
[13:01] <davidcalle> asac, dholbach maybe, not sure
[13:01] <shadeslayer> oh halo
[13:01] <shadeslayer> could someone expand on what's going on with the desktop stuff + snappy ?
[13:01] <asac> hi shadeslayer
[13:01] * shadeslayer is quite interested
[13:02] <asac> willcooke: ^^
[13:02] <shadeslayer> I read https://plus.google.com/u/2/+WillCooke/posts/AxfoU3N1Ezo , but it doesn't really touch on nitty gritty details :P
[13:03] <dholbach> asac, I talked to Peter - he said everything should be fine for release
[13:03] <dholbach> utlemming, taking a look in a bit
[13:04] <asac> dholbach: but who is coordinating when to roll out the changes?
[13:04] <asac> are you telling him later"?
[13:04] <asac> dholbach: asking him in -internal now
[13:04] <asac> :)
[13:04] <dholbach> asac, it'll be part of the whole website release
[13:04] <asac> shadeslayer: so all this is pretty new and fresh
[13:04] <asac> so there might not be very detailed gritty details :)
[13:04] <shadeslayer> ah :)
[13:05] <asac> shadeslayer: but willcooke is here and give you more up to date story
[13:05] <shadeslayer> understandable, I'm just curious as to what's moving to snappy and what isn't
[13:05] <dholbach> mvo, did you end the call? :-P
[13:05] <shadeslayer> and if flavors ( or well, Kubuntu ) can leverage this as well
[13:06] <dholbach> davidcalle, I'll update the AMIs
[13:06] <davidcalle> dholbach, I'm doing it right now :
[13:06] <davidcalle> :)*
[13:06] <dholbach> ooooook :)
[13:06] <dholbach> <3
[13:09] <ogra_> shadeslayer, everything will mmove to snappy in tehh long term ... but as i said in the other channel, the existing stuff wont go away ... if you want to move to snappy as well yu will just haveto use or provide the right framework packages i guess
[13:09] <shadeslayer> mhm
[13:10] <shadeslayer> ogra_: so ... you won't share any packaging with debian in the long term?
[13:10] <shadeslayer> or do you plan to push snappy to debian?
[13:10] <ogra_> ther is no deb support in snappy currently
[13:11] <ogra_> its all snaps ... and snaps are more like tasks than like single binary packages
[13:11] <davidcalle> dholbach, I've done the change, but I don't mind a second pair of eyes on it.
[13:12] <dholbach> davidcalle, let me take a look
[13:12] <ogra_> i.e. in my vision of the future desktop there are framework snaps for Mir, Wayland or plain Xorg ... then framework snaps for the different desktop flavours ... and on top your snaps of desktop apps
[13:13] <ogra_> and on the low level some shared functionallity framework snaps (printing, avahi etc) that all on top can consume
[13:14] <willcooke> shadeslayer, asac, sorry, was in a meeting...
[13:14] <ogra_> but thats only my personal vision ... there has nothing official been defined yet
[13:15] <willcooke> shadeslayer, best thing is to listen in on the UOS sessions
[13:15] <willcooke> shadeslayer, but in a nut shell...
[13:15] <dholbach> davidcalle, looks good!
[13:15] <willcooke> shadeslayer, we're creating a Snappy Personal Image (similar to an ISO) which will use Snappy packages instead of debs for the installation of software.
[13:16] <willcooke> to start with we are going to be pre-installing a lot of software while we get to grips with Snappy packaging
[13:16] <ogra_> ubuntu-desktop framework snap :)
[13:16] <willcooke> but over the course of the next 6 months more and more things will become snaps, and fewer and fewer things will be in the image
[13:16] <davidcalle> dholbach, thanks :)
[13:17] <willcooke> e.g. Today, LibreOffice might be in the image, in a few months there will be a LibreOffice Snap which you can install
[13:17] <willcooke> and, like the .deb version, the desktop package will pull in a lot of apps by default, like LO
[13:17] <willcooke> plus it'll be Unity 8 & Mir of course
[13:26] <dholbach> davidcalle, are we done now? :)
[13:27] <dholbach> I think we are... minus bug reports and some 'edge' images which still have to pop up, right?
[13:29] <shadeslayer> willcooke: I see, thanks for providing some insight :)
[13:31] <willcooke> shadeslayer, no worries, feel free to drop in to #ubuntu-desktop and chat with us some more, plus UOS sessions of course
[13:31] <shadeslayer> ofcourse :)
[14:08] <davidcalle> dholbach, I think so! Which bug reports?
[14:09] <dholbach> davidcalle, those that come in later on :)
[14:09] <dholbach> I fixed one by steve earlier
[14:09] <davidcalle> dholbach, oh right :) eg. https://bugs.launchpad.net/developer-ubuntu-com/+bug/1447626
[14:10] <davidcalle> asac, what can we say for this report? ^ Is there a command issue or the user has the wrong PPA on vivid?
[14:15] <asac> davidcalle: i think its outdated udf
[14:15] <asac> sergiusens: https://bugs.launchpad.net/developer-ubuntu-com/+bug/1447626
[14:15] <asac> can you confirm?
[14:16] <sergiusens> yes
[14:17] <sergiusens> davidcalle: you need the ppa even on vivid... I did have a small discussion with dholbach about this
[14:18] <sergiusens> davidcalle: but if we default to everyone needing the ppa no matter what distro series you are on, support is so much simpler
[14:19] <davidcalle> sergiusens, of course, what I'm wondering is: for this command to work, which PPA on vivid? The one called "beta" right?
[14:20] <sergiusens> davidcalle: beta is what we promote, correct
[14:22] <davidcalle> sergiusens, thanks, I'll mention it on the guide to clarify things.
[14:22] <dholbach> sergiusens, mvo, asac: I have a problem - I just produced an updated image with udf (r35), but when I dd (incl. sync run) it onto my micro-sd it takes around 2-3 seconds only
[14:22] <dholbach> I don't know what's going wrong
[14:23] <asac> dholbach: its not right
[14:23] <asac> dholbach: what /dev/node are you using?
[14:23] <dholbach> any pointers on how I could debug it?
[14:23] <dholbach> of=/dev/mmcblk0
[14:23] <asac> dholbach: is that a built in thing?
[14:24] <dholbach> yes
[14:24] <dholbach> in a lenovo x220
[14:24] <asac> dholbach: ls -la /dev/mmcblk*
[14:24] <sergiusens> asac: that's fine, it's my def target as well
[14:24] <sergiusens> oh, dd is broken
[14:24] <sergiusens> hmm
[14:24] <sergiusens> I mean, dd'ing
[14:25] <dholbach> asac, http://paste.ubuntu.com/10871641/
[14:25] <dholbach> what?!
[14:25] <dholbach> how is dd broken?
[14:28] <asac> dholbach: so it seems you dded to the bigh debice
[14:28] <asac> when the device was down
[14:28] <asac> dholbach: i would suggest to rm that file
[14:28] <asac> and maybe it comes back automatically
[14:28] <asac> dholbach: try to rm it
[14:29] <asac> rm -f /dev/mmcblk0
[14:29] <asac> if that doesnt work yhou need to reboot
[14:29] <asac> or reload your eemc driver
[14:29] <asac> i removed that file and replugged to get it back when i had that
[14:29] <asac> the 3.9G file is hiding your devnode
[14:29] <asac> afaict
[14:30] <asac> most lkely its a mknod 179,0 /dev/mmcblk0
[14:30] <asac> in case it doesnt reappear
[14:30] <asac> but i would rather reboot than risk doing something naasty
[14:30] <dholbach> 3900000000 Bytes (3,9 GB) kopiert, 6,75914 s, 577 MB/s
[14:30] <dholbach> 6,7s
[14:30] <dholbach> I don't think that's possible
[14:30] <dholbach> but yeah, I'll reboot
[14:31] <dholbach> brb
[14:33] <dholbach> now it's complaining that »/dev/mmcblk0“ is readonly
[14:33] <dholbach> ok, now it's starting to copy - let's see if I can boot it later on
[14:33] <dholbach> :)
[14:34] <sergiusens> dholbach: mmcblk0 readonly might be becase the sdcard has a lock switch toggled
[14:35] <dholbach> sergiusens, yes, that was the case this time - but what's bizarre: this morning I could toggle the switch whichever way I wanted, it was always readonly
[14:35] <dholbach> anyway, now it seems to be happy
[14:40] <dholbach> davidcalle, ah.... ok - now I got it - Tim was all about the porting guide
[14:40] <dholbach> thanks
[14:50] <dholbach> mvo, sergiusens, did you ever see something like http://paste.ubuntu.com/10871824/?
[14:52] <sergiusens> dholbach: yes, a package with no namespace that isn't supposed to have one does
[14:53] <sergiusens> dholbach: output of ls /apps /oem please
[14:53] <dholbach> sergiusens, http://paste.ubuntu.com/10871833/
[14:54] <sergiusens> dholbach: snappy list still works?
[14:54] <dholbach> sergiusens, yes - http://paste.ubuntu.com/10871837/
[14:55] <mvo> dholbach: I just got that
[14:55] <mvo> sergiusens: I got that too, it is type framework, this is confusing
[15:00] <sergiusens> mvo: so we are probably printing the wrong error
[15:00] <sergiusens> dholbach: I need to fix the empty message on error
[15:02] <davidcalle> dpm, dholbach, asac, what about hiding the Tutorials page for now? It brings nothing to the table.
[15:02] <dholbach> davidcalle, the tour?
[15:02] <sergiusens> mvo: oh, Chipaca has an mp
[15:02] <sergiusens> ...
[15:03] <davidcalle> Oh right, the tour is a subpage of it. Nevermind then :)
[15:03] <asac> davidcalle: it has two tutorials linked, no?
[15:03] <dholbach> yes, let's just leave it there for now
[15:03] <dholbach> let's do more IA changes after the release
[15:04] <dholbach> or... the other way around: let's try to avoid doing IA changes today :)
[15:04] <mvo> sergiusens: thats for later, we need one fix from him, but no more non-critical bugs, I guess we need to fork trunk to 15.04 too at some point
[15:05] <sergiusens> mvo: yeah, make last call and I'll create the series
[15:05] <sergiusens> and trunk can move on
[15:11] <davidcalle> dholbach, asac, yes yes, I've been focusing on the Guides page and forgot these 2 were under tutorials.
[16:02] <lool> mvo: pi2.lool should be in the store since lsat thursday or so
[16:02] <lool> I used it successfully from the store
[16:02] <lool> but then I think we landed some store changes with namespaces, not sure if that changes anything
[16:03] <lool> mvo: published rpi2.lool for 15.04 and rolling
[16:03] <mvo> lool: I uplaoded pi2.canonical
[16:04] <lool> mvo: oh great; so should I kill mine?
[16:04] <mvo> lool: with a higher version number but otherwise identical
[16:04] <lool> mvo: so we're officially supporting it?
[16:04] <dholbach> lool, mvo: does that mean we need to update the docs? (https://developer.ubuntu.com/en/snappy/start/#snappy-raspi2)
[16:04] <lool> I wasn't sure about that
[16:04] <mvo> lool: probably, see other channel - uh, I don't know, thats a question for asac I guess
[16:05] <lool> mvo: first, I thought we'd want rpi upstream to maintain, then I thought PES would maintain
[16:05] <mvo> lool: someone (need to check backlog) suggested to use the canonical namespace for it
[16:05] <lool> asac: ^
[16:05] <mvo> lool: but I can unpublish if that is not actually what we want
[16:05] <lool> mvo: you're right, we need asac on this Q
[16:27] <asac> we dont want it to be .canonical for now
[16:27] <asac> its fine to be .lool
[16:28] <asac> we can discussin malta
[16:28] <lool> mvo: ^
[16:29] * ogra_ notes down "want to be .lool"
[16:29] <lool> ogra_: I'll upload an ogra.lool
[16:29] <ogra_> lol
[16:29] * lool hug
[16:29] * ogra_ hugs lool
[16:30] <lool> my mailbox has blown completely out of proportions in the last 24 hours
[16:42] <mvo> lool, asac: unpublished pi2.canonical
[17:02] <mterry> How do I update a devel snappy install to devel-proposed? I tried using system-image-cli but that doesn't seem to take effect
[17:02] <mterry> (using --switch)
[17:10] <dpm> mterry, I was just going to ask the same question :)
[17:11] <mterry> :)
[19:46] <mterry> jdstrand, did that framework-dependency issue every get resolved?
[19:58] <jdstrand> mterry: oh yes, I never did ping you
[19:58] <jdstrand> mterry: it's all good
[19:58] <mterry> jdstrand, awesome
[19:58] <jdstrand> mterry: that was fixed *ages* ago. like, Monday even
[19:59] <mterry> :)
[19:59] <jdstrand> :)
[19:59] <jdstrand> mterry: happy release day btw :)
[19:59] <mterry> w000
[21:15] <rcj> mhall119, Updates for snappy start docs for cloud images.
[21:16] <rcj> mhall119, change the gce example image name from "ubuntu-core-devel-v20141215" to "ubuntu-snappy-core-1504-stable-2-v20150423"
[21:17] <rcj> mhall119, remove the table of AWS EC2 AMI ids of images. There is a command to list them that will return the correct AMIs for a point in time; that cmd is already in the doc.
[21:18] <rcj> mhall119, change the Azure example image name from "b39f27a8b8c64d52b05eac6a62ebad85__Ubuntu-15.04-Snappy-core-amd64-edge-20150423-36-en-us-30GB" to "b39f27a8b8c64d52b05eac6a62ebad85__Ubuntu-15.04-Snappy-core-amd64-edge-20150423.1-40-en-us-30GB" in all occurrences as this is the release image.
[21:18] <rcj> dpm, dholback ^
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[02:53] * DalekSec pokes the nlsthzn.
[02:58] * nlsthzn is poked
[04:31] <Kilos> ai!
[04:34] <Kilos> morning inetpro sorry
[04:58] <barrydk> Morning everyone
[04:58] <Kilos> hi barrydk
[04:58] <barrydk> Hoe gaan dit Kilos
[04:59] <Kilos> sjoe
[04:59] <Kilos> wel ek lewe so dis een goeie ding
[05:57] <Kilos> hi MaNI
[05:57] <Kilos> hi nlsthzn
[05:57] <nlsthzn> alo
[06:03] <MaNI> hi
[06:10] <pieter2627> morning all
[06:17] <Kilos> hi pieter2627
[06:56] <ThatGraemeGuy> mornings
[06:57] <Kilos> hi ThatGraemeGuy
[07:00] <nlsthzn> so everyone excited about the release later today?
[07:00] <ThatGraemeGuy> new Kurt Darren CD?
[07:01] <Kilos> if i can stay up ill get it in kde flavour nlsthzn
[07:01] <Kilos> i wanna see plasma5
[07:02] <ThatGraemeGuy> you might as well just grab the latest daily build iso, there's going to be no significant difference
[07:02] <nlsthzn> I was using it since yesterday... switched back to Gnome 3
[07:03] <nlsthzn> yup, I am pretty sure the current daily is the release
[07:03] <nlsthzn> ThatGraemeGuy, who is Kurt Darren?
[07:03] <nlsthzn> :p
[07:03] <ThatGraemeGuy> I'm not even using *buntu anymore, but don't tell anyone
[07:03] <nlsthzn> use what works for you
[07:04] <Kilos> lol
[07:04] <nlsthzn> if my bloody windows 7 wasn't giving me an update error I would be using it right now :/
[07:04] <Kilos> what you using ThatGraemeGuy
[07:04] <Kilos> debian or arch
[07:04] <ThatGraemeGuy> debian sid
[07:04] <Kilos> the fly also
[07:05] <ThatGraemeGuy> I get bored avery now and then and try something different
[07:05] <ThatGraemeGuy> next time i'll try something else again with one of these new desktop
[07:05] <ThatGraemeGuy> desktops
[07:05] <ThatGraemeGuy> cinnamon or mate
[07:05] <nlsthzn> ThatGraemeGuy, I couldn't get all my fonts to look nice with sid so I gave up :/
[07:06] <ThatGraemeGuy> or whatever else
[07:06] <nlsthzn> some websites where fugly
[07:06] <ThatGraemeGuy> yeah i must say it was a lot of manual fiddlling to get my desktop looking like i wanted
[07:07] <nlsthzn> and now that the freeze is almost over for debian be ready for more breakage with sid
[07:07] <ThatGraemeGuy> sid doesn't freeze
[07:07] <ThatGraemeGuy> jessie/testing froze
[07:08] <nlsthzn> as far as I can tell there is also a slow down in sid... but I could be mistaken
[07:08] <ThatGraemeGuy> haven't noticed any, i still keep getting updates
[07:08] <ThatGraemeGuy> they don't filter down to testing during the freeze though
[07:09] <ThatGraemeGuy> so when the freeze is lifted, testing get a sudden massive influx of updates and things break sometimes
[07:09] <Kilos> ai!
[07:09] <nlsthzn> might be what I am thinking about
[07:09] <ThatGraemeGuy> might be less activity in sid because of maintainers focussing more on getting jessie clean though
[07:09] <ThatGraemeGuy> but definitely not frozen
[07:10] <nlsthzn> lets hope it stays up regardless :p
[07:10] <ThatGraemeGuy> 12 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
[07:10] * nlsthzn noticed more speed copying from external hdd via usb 3 in 15.04
[07:10] <ThatGraemeGuy> that's now, and i ran a dist-upgrade yesterday
[07:16] <Kilos> thats the joy of linux, freedom of choice
[07:17] <Kilos> hi Jacques_Stry
[07:17] <Jacques_Stry> Morning
[07:23] <pieter2627> Kilos: about that book/manual thing, they are looking for a dedicated server to have python right?
[07:23] <Kilos> yes
[07:24] <pieter2627> found this yesterday http://www.webafrica.co.za/hosting/
[07:24] <Kilos> is it free?
[07:24] <Kilos> Jacques_Stry ^^
[07:24] <pieter2627> nope, but cheaper than a dedicated host
[07:25] <Jacques_Stry> this is the dependencies required - git-core python-dev python-pip libjpeg-dev libpq-dev libxml2-dev libxslt-dev rabbitmq-server redis-server tidy
[07:25] <Kilos> actually maybe one of you clever guys can look at ec2 and see if that free for a year thing can be dedicated
[07:26] <Kilos> free is good i think for a year, one can get lots done in a year
[07:27] <Kilos> inetpro can they do dedicated
[07:27] <pieter2627> i asked them if it is possible to install django since i see that is needed and got pointed to the vps option to install anything
[07:28] <pieter2627> Kilos: i don't thing it is dedicated, but as i understand you are in full control, someone might be able to confirm
[07:29] <Kilos> thats for you clever peeps to work out
[07:29] <Kilos> i dont even understand the need for a dedicated server
[07:30] <Kilos> magespawn says that site is super fast
[07:30] <Kilos> i think he said a 2g upgrade or install took 3 secs
[07:34] <pieter2627> since the ec2 is free for a year, one can just get one and try it?
[07:35] <Kilos> yes thats what i was thinking
[07:36] <Kilos> oh Jacques_Stry you spoke about sql
[07:37] <pieter2627> or sqlite
[07:37] <Kilos> i have a book called mastering sql by martin gruber that you can have
[07:38] <pieter2627> Kilos: how old is it?
[07:39] <Kilos> old i think
[07:40] <Jacques_Stry> Well they designed it with PostgreSQL but others should be fine
[07:41] <Kilos> im trying to find a date
[07:41] <Kilos> was my nieces at college
[07:43] <Kilos> can you find its age if i give you the isbn number
[07:44] <pieter2627> should be able to
[07:45] <Kilos> isbn : 0-7821-2538-7
[07:46] <pieter2627> year 2000 http://www.amazon.com/Mastering-SQL-Martin-Gruber/dp/0782125387
[07:46] <Kilos> so in todays world its very old
[07:47] <Kilos> anyway anyone is welcome to it
[07:48] <Kilos> i read up to the need for a second table and gave up
[07:48] <pieter2627> probably, but it is a start if no other choice exists
[07:48] <Kilos> 841 pages and a cd
[07:53] <psyatw> hi Kilos
[07:53] <psyatw> hi pieter2627
[07:53] <pieter2627> morning psyatw
[07:53] <psyatw> does SQL matter in a world of NoSQL? :)
[07:54] <Kilos> hi psyatw
[07:55] <psyatw> I went to the Hadoop meetup yesterday
[07:55] <Kilos> we have a project that uses sql
[07:55] <psyatw> and learned about Apache Drill
[07:55] <Kilos> nice
[07:55] <psyatw> it's a cool project
[08:04] <Kilos> hi TinuvaMac
[08:35] <Kilos> aw
[08:35] <Kilos> that was someone from our site and i was outside
[08:36] <Kilos> i need to organise a whole group of greeter bots
[09:26] <Kilos> hi SilverCode
[09:26] <SilverCode> hi Kilos
[09:33] <Kilos> SilverCode have you joined us yet at https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-za
[09:33] <Kilos> i forget who ive asked and who not
[09:33] <Kilos> ai!
[09:51] <Kilos> wb Jacques_Stry
[09:52] <Kilos> pieter2627 wat dink jy van daai ec2 ding
[09:54] <Kilos> im looking for more places
[10:00] <Jacques_Stry> Exchange reset
[10:00] <Kilos> ah
[10:00] <Jacques_Stry> Happening quite often these days
[10:00] <Kilos> no matter wb anyway
[10:00] <Jacques_Stry> :) ty
[10:00] <Kilos> hehe
[10:01] <Kilos> im working on another host but could take a while, need to get to know him first
[10:02] <Kilos> i dont know how well tie the booktype thing to ubuntu work
[10:02] <Kilos> maybe ec2 can be done in the meantime
[10:03] <pieter2627> Kilos: with my limited knowledge, it does not look bad
[10:05] <Kilos> yay
[10:05] <Kilos> Jacques_Stry can jy hom help asb
[10:06] <Kilos> i will need to know the size of a dedicated server needed for it
[10:06] <Kilos> if ec2 dont work
[10:06] <Kilos> and all the links
[10:08] <Jacques_Stry> They don't have system requirements listed on the site
[10:08] <Jacques_Stry> but shouldn't be much
[10:10] <Kilos> Maaz define much
[10:10] <Maaz> Kilos: Much \Much\, n. 1. A great quantity; a great deal; also, an indefinite quantity; as, you have as much as I. [1913 Webster] He that gathered much had nothing over. --Ex. xvi. 18. [1913 Webster] Note: Muchin this sense can be regarded as an adjective qualifying a word unexpressed, and may, therefore, be modified by as, so, too, very. [1913 Webster] 2. A
[10:10] <Maaz> thing uncommon, wonderful, or noticeable; something considerable. [1913 Webster] And [he] t…
[10:10] <Jacques_Stry> for installation see this page:http://goo.gl/kLgAoP
[10:10] <Kilos> ok
[10:10] <Kilos> what system does it need to install onto
[10:11] <Kilos> dont tell me windows, ill cry
[10:12] <Jacques_Stry> a VPS with a gig of ram should be enough
[10:12] <pieter2627> ubuntu, centos, debian, mac os is what it has been tested upon
[10:12] <Kilos> aha
[10:12] <Jacques_Stry> http://goo.gl/kLgAoP this is installation on debian based
[10:12] <Jacques_Stry> but other distro's supported too
[10:12] * pieter2627 has also been thinking why a vps can't work instead
[10:13] <Jacques_Stry> - what he said
[10:15] <Kilos> will these books be for south africans only or anyone?
[10:18] <Jacques_Stry> Good question - but I guess we targeting SA first
[10:19] <Kilos> yeah what i mean is is the education the same all over or do we do different stuff here
[10:21] <Kilos> dont forget i was in school 46 years ago
[10:22] <Jacques_Stry> SA different from other countries
[10:23] <Kilos> isnt maths maths all over and so on
[10:23] <Kilos> our only diffs should be hisory
[10:23] <Kilos> english is english
[10:24] <Kilos> accounting should be same
[10:24] <Kilos> computer classes should be same
[10:25] <Kilos> i wish william was here
[10:25] <Jacques_Stry> True, but the curriculum's differ from countries and books for sa will have to be translated to different languages
[10:26] <Kilos> is this for za kids to do what they are supposed to be doing at school or what
[10:29] <Kilos> sjoe im too old to be thinking about this kinda stuff
[10:29] <Kilos> lemme mail william
[10:43] <Kilos> ok mailed him, maybe he can enlighten me
[10:44] <Kilos> im so far past all that stuff i dont even know what to ask
[10:45] <Kilos> like is the idea for homeschooling or to supply schools or what
[10:46] <Kilos> if for home study then a curriculum does mater
[10:46] <Kilos> matter either
[10:46] <Kilos> doesnt
[10:46] <Kilos> ai!
[10:50] <Kilos> inetpro lunchtime
[10:50] <ThatGraemeGuy> what is booktype for?
[10:50] <Kilos> they want to make study books
[10:51] <Kilos> available online
[10:51] <ThatGraemeGuy> who is they?
[10:51] <Kilos> william started it
[10:52] <Kilos> arent you on our mailing list ThatGraemeGuy ?
[10:52] <ThatGraemeGuy> don't think so
[10:52] <Kilos> he has been trying for months to get things going
[10:52] <Kilos> now Jacques_Stry is trying to help
[10:53] <Kilos> you can find the link to join our lit on our website
[10:53] <ThatGraemeGuy> what's the hold up?
[10:53] <Kilos> list
[10:53] <ThatGraemeGuy> i don't really do mailing lists, i never look at them
[10:53] <Kilos> what they are going to use i think
[10:53] <Jacques_Stry> at the moment the biggest problem is hosting
[10:54] <Kilos> ya we need a host to host booktype
[10:54] <ThatGraemeGuy> need lots of space? lots of cpu? lot of downloads expected?
[10:54] <Jacques_Stry> has to be VPS or Dedicated
[10:54] <ThatGraemeGuy> you can't decide where to host until you have some idea of those sorts of things
[10:55] <Jacques_Stry> but we don't expect a lot of load for quite a while
[10:55] <ThatGraemeGuy> dedi is expensive
[10:55] <Jacques_Stry> know...
[10:55] <Jacques_Stry> so we trying to do VPS
[10:55] <ThatGraemeGuy> start with a 1GB vps and it can be grown if needed typically
[10:55] <Jacques_Stry> we gonna try ec2 for now
[10:55] <ThatGraemeGuy> oh, so it sounds like there's no holdup...... make it happen! :P
[10:56] <Jacques_Stry> Haha
[10:56] <ThatGraemeGuy> ah ok
[10:56] <Kilos> lol
[10:56] <ThatGraemeGuy> i'm not a cloud boffin :-/
[10:56] <Jacques_Stry> same
[10:56] <Jacques_Stry> will figure it out as I go
[10:56] <ThatGraemeGuy> apparently i signed up for the free level some time ago because amazxon said my free year is about to run out
[10:57] <Kilos> Jacques_Stry keep eyes open for magespawn he is using it
[10:57] <Kilos> says its super fast
[10:58] <Jacques_Stry> At the moment I have a dedicated with OVH, managing it should be similar
[11:26] <ThatGraemeGuy> http://openness.microsoft.com/blog/2015/04/21/microsoft-debian-8-linuxfest/
[11:26] <ThatGraemeGuy> bizarro
[11:32] <Jacques_Stry> So see no reason of ec2 not to work
[11:33] <ThatGraemeGuy> yeah
[11:33] <ThatGraemeGuy> put important stuff on an EBS volume, instance storage is non-permanent
[11:33] <Jacques_Stry> ???
[11:33] <ThatGraemeGuy> assming you get EBS at the free level
[11:34] <Jacques_Stry> you do - 5gb
[11:34] <ThatGraemeGuy> EBS = Elastic Block Storage, basically a network drive
[11:34] <ThatGraemeGuy> but it has redundancy so it isn't susceptible to physical issues
[11:34] <ThatGraemeGuy> whereas the normal storage you get with a plain instance is not redundant, and may be destroyed
[11:35] <Kilos> oh and keep notes Jacques_Stry
[11:35] <Jacques_Stry> so when do they destroy data?
[11:35] <ThatGraemeGuy> if you treat EC2 as a VPS provider you're gonna have a bad time
[11:35] <ThatGraemeGuy> not sure exactly
[11:36] <ThatGraemeGuy> it isn't going to just happen, but it can
[11:36] <ThatGraemeGuy> guess that doesn't help
[11:36] <Jacques_Stry> haha
[11:36] <ThatGraemeGuy> this stuff is all magic, I stick with a VPS, its stuff I understand
[11:36] <ThatGraemeGuy> if I had a need I'd learn the amazon stuff
[11:36] <ThatGraemeGuy> but meh
[11:37] <Jacques_Stry> Well it seems that root storage is on the EBS
[11:39] <Jacques_Stry> Went into EBS storage and it shows already attached to my compute instance
[11:39] <Jacques_Stry> as root
[11:39] <ThatGraemeGuy> ah ok
[11:40] <Jacques_Stry> So should be safe
[11:40] <ThatGraemeGuy> and there you already know more than me :-D
[11:44] <pieter2627> you get EBS on free EC2 http://aws.amazon.com/ebs/
[12:02] <Jacques_Stry> testing the free ec2 out now
[12:02] <Kilos> sjoe
[12:08] <Kilos> hi Kerbero
[12:08] <Kerbero> Middag Kilos
[12:09] <Jacques_Stry> sudo apt-get install postgresql
[12:09] <Jacques_Stry> lol wrong chat
[12:09] <Kilos> lol
[12:09] <Kilos> ooo yay im not the only one
[12:09] <Kerbero> sudo apt-get install mysql
[12:09] <Kerbero> :P
[12:10] <Kilos> Kerbero hulle werk hard met ec2
[12:10] <Kilos> en booktype
[12:10] <Jacques_Stry> Well they tested it with Postgre so gonna stay with it for now
[12:10] <Kerbero> imho postgre is better for production environments
[12:11] <Kerbero> But I know mysql so I use it everywhere
[12:16] <Kilos> oh Jacques_Stry i remember something said about schools that dont get books etc
[12:16] <Kilos> maybe i dreamed that
[12:18] <Kilos> william taking long to answer
[12:18] <Jacques_Stry> must say these SSD's on ec2 is quick
[12:19] <Kilos> nice
[12:39] <Jacques_Stry> sigh - booktype isn't in the repo's provided
[12:40] <Kilos> ai!
[12:41] <pieter2627> Jacques_Stry: aren't you cloning from git?
[12:41] <Jacques_Stry> installing from their repo's so that it updates because the software is still in beta
[12:42] <pieter2627> oh
[12:44] <Kilos> keep notes
[12:45] <Kilos> easier to pastebin notes than to think it all through from scratch again
[12:46] <Kilos> and keep notes for mechanic types not geeks
[12:50] <ThatGraemeGuy> you also want to start making books?
[12:59] <Kilos> nono but maybe someone else can use ec2 as well
[13:00] <TinuvaMac> ThatGraemeGuy: you still getting connected to ctwug? finally got my link up and working over the past weekend
[13:01] <ThatGraemeGuy> I struggled to find useful signal
[13:03] <Kilos> i wrote a booklet already ThatGraemeGuy but fly had to fix it hehe
[13:03] <Jacques_Stry> I see 15.04 release is up
[13:04] <TinuvaMac> ThatGraemeGuy: possible because on the map it doesnt show any1 with a dish pointed in your direction
[13:04] <TinuvaMac> you may need some1 to put up a temp test kit on their site pointing to you
[13:04] <ThatGraemeGuy> yeah i'm on the back end of a hill
[13:04] <ThatGraemeGuy> my only hope was capeflyer
[13:04] <ThatGraemeGuy> or capeflyer3 i don't recall
[13:04] * pieter2627 runs of to get it, points Jacques_Stry to this first https://www.digitalocean.com/community/questions/sourcefabric-booktype-book-collab-software#answer_19441
[13:05] <ThatGraemeGuy> but there is a double storey in the way right diagonally next to me
[13:06] <TinuvaMac> aah i see
[13:06] <TinuvaMac> you left your site height at 3m, may need quite a bit more than that
[13:07] <ThatGraemeGuy> i was up on the roof scanning with the test kit, not just going on what WiND says
[13:09] <TinuvaMac> ok
[13:09] <TinuvaMac> cape flyer doesnt have anything pointing in your direction though
[13:09] <TinuvaMac> you would need someone on his side as well with a kit
[13:10] <ThatGraemeGuy> problem there as well is that he is much lower down than me
[13:10] <ThatGraemeGuy> plus the double-storey is easily 2m higher than i can manage with a 3m pole
[13:10] <ThatGraemeGuy> so i need some pretty serious height
[13:11] <Kilos> ai!
[13:11] <Jacques_Stry> messed up the install - will try again when I get home
[13:11] <Jacques_Stry> I like ec2 - pretty nice for testing setups - test something and when finished just delete the instance
[13:11] <TinuvaMac> i added a 7.3m pole on the side of my house
[13:11] <TinuvaMac> ThatGraemeGuy: have you tried scanning in stellenbosch direction?
[13:12] <ThatGraemeGuy> I scanned in all directions initially and nothing useful came up
[13:13] <TinuvaMac> LoS from you to Bott looks great actually
[13:13] <TinuvaMac> only downside is, you will have to buy kit for both sides to get connected, if that guy agrees to it
[13:13] <TinuvaMac> thats what i had to do to get connected
[13:14] <ThatGraemeGuy> meh, I'm just going to wait until I move somewhere else
[13:15] <MaNI> heh, don't move to helderberg, we seem to be the worst part of the wug
[13:18] <ThatGraemeGuy> I wouldn't move there anyway
[13:18] <ThatGraemeGuy> I have friends there and it seems whenever we go there its windy as hell
[13:19] <ThatGraemeGuy> perhaps my bad luck but i won't test that theory :p
[13:19] <ThatGraemeGuy> they were trying to get something up at bezweni, not sure if anything came of that
[13:19] <TinuvaMac> ah ok
[13:21] <Langjan> Hi Kilos
[13:22] <Kilos> hi Langjan gaanit?
[13:22] <Langjan> Fine thks, en jy?
[13:23] <MaNI> given the lack of replies I would guess it wasn't even followed up on
[13:23] <Kilos> ek gaan aan dankie
[13:23] <Langjan> Mooi so, Kilos what does a cross in synaptic signify?
[13:24] <Langjan> must I mark them for removal?
[13:24] <Kilos> i think that means there are upgrades
[13:25] <Kilos> just tick mark all upgrades and then apply
[13:25] <Langjan> ok lets see
[13:26] <Langjan> portfolio means you have a new job
[13:26] <Langjan> the one we all congratulated you about?
[13:26] <Kilos> ai! thats driving me nuts
[13:27] <Langjan> Sorry! Kilos its asking me if I want to remove grub 2 from boot/grub
[13:27] <Kilos> oh my ok close synaptic
[13:29] <Langjan> must I its still working...
[13:31] <Langjan> so does not react it says completely removing grub-pc(i386)
[13:32] <ThatGraemeGuy> MaNI: seems so
[13:33] <Langjan> Kilos did I mess up?
[13:33] <ThatGraemeGuy> I'm going there next weekend if i remember I'll ask the guys if anyone did come chat to them about the wug stuff
[13:35] <MaNI> did the people who used to manage the helderberg section leave or something?
[13:36] <ThatGraemeGuy> not sure
[13:36] <Kilos> nou nou terug
[13:36] <MaNI> I'm sure when I first looked into it many years ago there were high points and active people and stuff
[13:36] <MaNI> but now that I actually want to join theres no access points or anything
[13:37] <Kilos> sorry Langjan
[13:37] <Kilos> sudo aptitude upgrade
[13:38] <Kilos> had to get gates for sis
[13:38] <ThatGraemeGuy> asking on ctwug IRC
[13:38] <ThatGraemeGuy> not sure if cafsta is afk though
[13:39] <Langjan> Kilos its applying changes, currently purging config files for grub pc
[13:39] <Kilos> it will give you options
[13:40] <Langjan> completely removing grub pc i386
[13:40] <Kilos> that grub 1386 isnt needed if you on 64bit
[13:40] <Kilos> are you on 64bit
[13:40] <Langjan> im on 32 bit
[13:40] <Kilos> oh my
[13:41] <Kilos> how can grub be installed in the wrong place
[13:41] <TinuvaMac> MaNI: for me it was easier once I found someone close to me that seemed very interesting getting me up and running. It does help to find out who your area admin is, and get on to the whatsapp group for the area, that quickly sorted me out getting in touch with people
[13:42] <MaNI> TinuvaMac, yeah, thats the thing though it seems almost to me like the area has collapsed theres almost nobody to connect to and the remaining guy cafsta probably means well but I don't think he has the time/resources or something
[13:43] <Langjan> So what do I do now? Nothing is working, its busy purging grub
[13:43] <Kilos> let it go on but dont switch off
[13:43] <TinuvaMac> wow cafsta's id is low, 479 one of the 1st 500
[13:43] <Langjan> ok thks
[13:44] <MaNI> TinuvaMac, I mean if you check http://www.ctwug.za.net/forumdisplay.php?35-Helderberg-Area - there is almost no recent activity
[13:45] <TinuvaMac> well i wouldnt go by that
[13:45] <ThatGraemeGuy> MaNI: if you have the time and skill to be an admin perhaps you can pick up on this: http://www.ctwug.za.net/showthread.php?4473-Looking-for-access-point-for-connection&p=38869&viewfull=1#post38869
[13:45] <TinuvaMac> like i say, nowadays its all on whatsapp with the new kids and even the old folks
[13:46] <MaNI> especially gordons bay side
[13:46] <MaNI> skill yeah, time no :(
[13:46] <MaNI> equipment also no :p
[13:47] <ThatGraemeGuy> equipment is probably not an issue, for a nice high site like that i'm sure you can make a case for getting money from the WUG account
[13:49] <MaNI> I mean ladders, crimping tools etc. I don't have any networking tools :p surely an area admin needs those at a minimum, but yeah time is a huge problem for me maybe if some frees up and still nothing is going on I can have a look
[13:49] <MaNI> TinuvaMac, pretty sad if something like a wug uses primarily whatsapp to communicate thats not a very good way to include new people, but yeah maybe thats how the world is now
[13:56] <Kilos> Langjan whats happening
[13:58] <Langjan> still running...
[13:59] <Kilos> ok then we run another command to replace grub
[14:00] <Kilos> jy moenie goed breek nie outoppie
[14:01] <Langjan> ek probeer maar in die nuwe sa moet mens kan goed breek
[14:01] <Kilos> lol
[14:06] <Kilos> sjoe dit vat lank ne
[14:06] <Kilos> ossewa laptop
[14:07] <TinuvaMac> MaNI: I completely see your point about that. It would be great to see more people on the ctwug irc. In my area alone, irc channel has 9 people, 1 bot with 2 and area admin active. Whatsapp...30 people with 15 active
[14:07] <TinuvaMac> maybe even more on whatsapp
[14:08] <TinuvaMac> 15 active with 100 in the goup
[14:08] <Kilos> sjoe
[14:09] <TinuvaMac> cafsta is active on irc tho :P
[14:13] <MaNI> hehe #ctwug-helderberg is 2 :p
[14:15] <Kilos> oh my
[14:15] <Kilos> whats app killed the wug star
[14:18] <Jacques_StrY> Would be awesome if we could get a WUG in RTB
[14:20] <Kilos> ptawug goes to brits for definite, maybe gone fruther by now
[14:20] <Langjan> Kilos it does not show any movement, except to say purging configuration files, you think its still going somewhere?
[14:20] <Kilos> i looked about 2 years ago
[14:20] <Kilos> sjoe normally aptitude sorts things
[14:21] <Langjan> It does say it can take some time...
[14:21] <Kilos> let it run
[14:21] <Langjan> ok boss
[14:21] <Kilos> then use sudo aptitude install grub-pc
[14:21] <Kilos> if that says it is installed then run
[14:21] <Langjan> thks Kilos
[14:22] <Kilos> sudo aptitude reinstall grub-pc
[14:22] <Kilos> anytime Langjan
[14:22] <Kilos> then you should be safe
[14:23] <Langjan> OK thks Kilos
[14:24] <Kilos> maybe boot-repair messed something up
[14:32] <Kilos> oh also Langjan in synaptic you can go edit then tick fix broken packages
[14:32] <Kilos> maybe thats why synaptic is taking so long
[14:32] <Kilos> but dont switch off
[14:42] <Kilos> Langjan i dont think you can run two install commands same time from terminal but try in another terminal sudo apt-get -f install
[14:57] <Kilos> nou kry ek sommer skaam. ek moes eers jou pos gelees het maar was buite by die skape
[14:57] <Kilos> ai!
[15:15] <Langjan> It gives "another process is using terminal"
[15:15] <Kilos> ok lets try kill it
[15:15] <Kilos> ctrl+c
[15:16] <Kilos> then type exit
[15:17] <Kilos> hopefully that will kill it
[15:18] <Kilos> where are the clever peeps when i need them
[15:18] <Langjan> It gives option to end process, I select yes but it does not stop
[15:18] <Kilos> try a few times
[15:18] <Kilos> we have to end that process
[15:19] <Langjan> Its got 9 lives
[15:19] <Kilos> lol
[15:20] <Kilos> now we need a kill command
[15:20] <Langjan> How do you kill a cat?
[15:20] <Kilos> MaNI
[15:20] <Kilos> now everyone on their way home too
[15:22] <Kilos> elacheche how do i kill a terminal running a config process thats stuck
[15:22] <Kilos> Langjan rattle your cage maybe someone will hear
[15:26] <Langjan> will a run in guest session not work?
[15:26] <Kilos> im scared grub is totally messed up
[15:27] <Kilos> without grub you are messed unless you have boot=-repair on a cd or stick
[15:28] <Kilos> oh lets see
[15:28] <Kilos> try running boot-repair and see if that can get past the terminal
[15:28] <Langjan> ok
[15:29] <Kilos> with that process running synaptic wont work either
[15:30] <Langjan> boot repair running
[15:30] <Kilos> yay lets hold thumbs
[15:31] <Langjan> no luck, still same
[15:31] <Kilos> eish
[15:31] <Langjan> other options on boot repair?
[15:31] <Kilos> there must be a kill command
[15:32] <Kilos> nope
[15:32] <Langjan> Found this but dont know how it works: http://ubuntuguide.net/view-and-kill-current-processes-on-ubuntu
[15:33] <Langjan> I dont see suystem monitor anywhere
[15:33] <Kilos> look for terminal
[15:33] <Jacques_StrY> What is the process that is hanging?
[15:34] <Kilos> terminal of config
[15:34] <Langjan> ok found it
[15:34] <Kilos> i dunno
[15:34] <Langjan> found system monitor
[15:34] <Kilos> ok then use the kill for that
[15:34] <Kilos> why you looking for system monitor
[15:35] <Langjan> Compiz and gnome sytstem monitor running
[15:35] <Kilos> can you paste all the running stuff in slexy.org
[15:35] <Kilos> or in a pm
[15:36] <Langjan> Only thing running except monitor is compiz
[15:36] <Kilos> oh
[15:37] <Kilos> i dunno what compiz does
[15:37] <Jacques_StrY> what was busy configuring that is currently hanging
[15:37] <Kilos> some grub stuff
[15:38] <Jacques_StrY> compiz is part of x that handles 3d window effects
[15:38] <Langjan> Killed compiz but now system is unresponsive
[15:38] <Kilos> ai
[15:39] <elacheche> hey again.. Kilos did you killed it?
[15:39] <Kilos> nope killed compiz now system dont respond
[15:39] <Kilos> ai!
[15:40] <Kilos> jan you got a live dvd?
[15:40] <Langjan> Ubuntu? yes
[15:41] <Kilos> ok first try rebooting if it wont try booting from dvd
[15:41] <Langjan> only way to reboot is to power off
[15:41] <Kilos> ok
[15:42] <Langjan> holding thumbs, better, praying
[15:42] <Kilos> ai!
[15:43] <Kilos> all he needed was to repair broken packages first but i saw his mail late
[15:43] <Kilos> but Jacques_StrY you will know how to mount the drive and install grub-pc hey
[15:43] <Langjan> It's booted
[15:43] <Kilos> woohoo
[15:43] <Kilos> ok now
[15:44] <Kilos> sudo aptitude reinstall grub-pc
[15:44] <Kilos> oh wait
[15:44] <Kilos> something broken there
[15:44] <Kilos> sudo apt-get clean
[15:45] <Kilos> sudo apt-get autoclean
[15:45] <Kilos> ai! hes done first one
[15:46] <Kilos> Jacques_StrY for some reasong grub was installed in the wrong place
[15:46] <Kilos> and there are broken packages somewhere
[15:47] <Langjan> kilos I'm trying to run xdiagnose to fix a graphics prob, its not opening for some reason
[15:48] <Kilos> has it opened to terminal?
[15:48] <Langjan> yes
[15:49] <Kilos> then lets clean out broken packages first
[15:49] <Langjan> ok sudo apt-get clean?
[15:49] <Kilos> ya
[15:49] <Langjan> or autoclean?
[15:49] <Kilos> and the other one i forget which does what
[15:50] <Langjan> so what must I run first?
[15:50] <Kilos> clean
[15:51] <Langjan> ok then?
[15:51] <Langjan> nothings happening
[15:51] <Kilos> autoclean
[15:51] <Kilos> then sudo apt-get -f install
[15:52] <Langjan> dpkg was interrupted, must run sudo dpkg --configure -a'
[15:53] <Kilos> run that
[15:53] <Kilos> thats where it was stuck
[15:53] <Langjan> now autoclean?
[15:54] <Kilos> ya
[15:54] <Kilos> did dpkg do anything
[15:54] <Langjan> running
[15:55] <Langjan> running update
[15:55] <Kilos> on its own?
[15:55] <Langjan> am getting the same duplicate resources list message
[15:55] <Kilos> thats later worry
[15:56] <Langjan> ok what next ?
[15:56] <Kilos> got duplicate entries in update thingie
[15:56] <Kilos> ok slowly now
[15:56] <Kilos> sudo aptitude reinstall grub-pc
[15:56] <Kilos> then
[15:57] <Kilos> sudo aptitude install ubuntu-desktop
[15:57] <Langjan> ok running
[15:58] <Kilos> if im gone a bit im getting gates for sis
[15:58] <Kilos> just be patient
[15:58] <Kilos> ill be back
[15:59] <Langjan> ok done thks so far
[15:59] <Kilos> ubuntu-desktop as well?
[16:00] <Kilos> then it should work fine again
[16:01] <Langjan> everything seems fine except not getting xdiagnose to open
[16:01] <Kilos> installed ubuntu-desktop?
[16:01] <Langjan> yes
[16:02] <Kilos> can you remember what graphics was in there?
[16:03] <Kilos> what you mean everything seems fine? are you in a working system
[16:03] <Kilos> gui and all?
[16:04] <Langjan> system is working fine, whats gui?
[16:04] <Kilos> graphic user interface
[16:04] <Kilos> die groot prent
[16:04] <Kilos> the ubuntu unity look
[16:05] <Langjan> only thing is fixed size of icons etc which I usually fix with xdiagnose
[16:05] <Kilos> just type additional in dash
[16:05] <Langjan> how doo I do that?
[16:05] <Kilos> see if the graphics drivers are installed
[16:06] <Kilos> the top thing in the launching panel
[16:06] <Langjan> additional in dash?
[16:06] <Kilos> where you open programs
[16:06] <Kilos> ya
[16:06] <Langjan> how do I type there?
[16:07] <Kilos> additional should then give you a choice of opening additional drivers
[16:07] <Kilos> when you tick it a window with search panel must open
[16:07] <Langjan> ok with you
[16:07] <Kilos> gates
[16:08] <Langjan> I have never had drivers in there
[16:08] <Langjan> no proprietory drivers in use, same as always
[16:09] <Langjan> Itrs my screen resolution I need to sort out, everythings huge at the moment
[16:11] <Langjan> should I try to reboot again?
[16:11] <Kilos> oh ok but you will find if you have right drivers it is a bit quicker
[16:11] <Kilos> you can
[16:11] <Kilos> it should have remembered all your setting
[16:11] <Langjan> hope so!
[16:12] <Langjan> Instead of Ubuntu, grub now shows gnu linux
[16:12] <Kilos> its working
[16:12] <Kilos> dont fix what isnt broken
[16:13] <Langjan> leave well enough alone
[16:13] <Kilos> lol ya
[16:13] <Kilos> is the icon size still messed up?
[16:14] <Langjan> yes, it has rebooted but size still huge and xdiagnose still not working, maybe try to uninstall and reinstall xdiagnoes?i
[16:15] <Langjan> or run from synaptic?
[16:15] <Kilos> open synaptic
[16:15] <Kilos> tick reload
[16:15] <Langjan> ok done
[16:16] <Kilos> then um
[16:16] <Kilos> wiat
[16:16] <Kilos> wait too
[16:16] <Langjan> running
[16:16] <Langjan> waiting
[16:16] <Kilos> mark all upgrades
[16:16] <Langjan> wiating too
[16:16] <Kilos> lol
[16:17] <Langjan> ok downloading 3 package files
[16:17] <Kilos> what files
[16:18] <Langjan> ek het vergeet
[16:18] <Kilos> lol
[16:18] <Langjan> ok done
[16:18] <Kilos> ok when done type at top graphics
[16:19] <Langjan> ok done
[16:20] <Kilos> somewhere in there must be nouveau drivers ticked
[16:21] <Kilos> but you can right click reinstall everything thats shows green in there
[16:21] <Langjan> nothing ticked
[16:21] <Kilos> go down
[16:21] <Kilos> must be lots of stuff
[16:22] <Langjan> lots but nothing ticked
[16:22] <Kilos> has it got a nvidia graphics card in
[16:22] <Langjan> no idea
[16:22] <Kilos> nvidia is easy to remember the ati i dont know
[16:22] <Kilos> sjoe
[16:23] <Kilos> Jacques_Stry kan jy oor neem asb soek watter graphics moet instaleer
[16:23] <Kilos> lspci
[16:23] <Kilos> ek dink
[16:25] <Kilos> Langjan look in setting and the screen thing if you can fix settings
[16:25] <Langjan> Built-in display
[16:25] <Kilos> settings that gear thing in the launcher
[16:26] <Kilos> didnt we have to find ati drivers for this one sometime
[16:26] <Langjan> no
[16:26] <Langjan> I used xdiagnose to sort it out
[16:26] <Kilos> i hope its nvidia
[16:27] <Kilos> ok type xdiagnose in synaptic and reinstall it
[16:30] <Langjan> ok going
[16:31] <Langjan> still no luck
[16:31] <Kilos> maybe that is part og the configuration that crashed
[16:32] <Kilos> lets try something else
[16:32] <Kilos> tick xdiagnose and remove it
[16:32] <Kilos> then install again
[16:33] <Langjan> in synaptic?
[16:33] <Kilos> ya
[16:33] <Kilos> and sommer reinstall everything thats green there
[16:33] <Langjan> removal or complete removal?
[16:33] <Kilos> removal
[16:35] <Langjan> still not working. remove, reboot then reinstall?
[16:36] <Kilos> its just some config somewhere
[16:36] <Kilos> but to find it
[16:37] <Kilos> reinstalling everything in synaptic will work but thats a days job
[16:37] <pieter2627> try opening xdiagnose from terminal to see what the problem is
[16:39] <Kilos> Langjan pieter2627 is one of the clever young breed
[16:39] <Langjan> Hi pieter2627, glad to meet you
[16:39] <Langjan> dalk kan jy die ou manne help
[16:40] <Langjan> whats the command pse?
[16:40] <Langjan> to open xdiagnose in terminal
[16:40] <Kilos> xdiagnose
[16:40] <Kilos> maybe sudo
[16:40] <pieter2627> Hi Langjan, likewise here. (i thing that is currently only Kilos's prayer)
[16:41] <pieter2627> probably just xdiagnose
[16:41] <pieter2627> else try xd then <tab>
[16:41] <pieter2627> to get suggestions
[16:42] <Langjan> Error: No /etc/default/grub present
[16:42] <pieter2627> shouldn't one update grub after install
[16:43] <pieter2627> `sudo grub update` i think
[16:43] <Kilos> sudo update-grub
[16:44] <Langjan> still nothing
[16:45] <pieter2627> what did update-grub do
[16:45] <pieter2627> *?
[16:46] <Langjan> Found linux image, initrd image, memtest image
[16:47] <Langjan> memtest86+.elf and .bin
[16:47] <Langjan> Hope that helps
[16:50] <pieter2627> i know you did this, but just retry `sudo apt-get install --reinstall grub-pc`
[16:52] <Langjan> ok
[16:52] <pieter2627> now `ls /etc/default/grub`
[16:54] <pieter2627> does it reprint the path or output not found?
[16:54] <Langjan> aha, you got it
[16:54] <pieter2627> so xdiagnose is now opening?
[16:54] <Kilos> fixed?
[16:54] <Langjan> xdiagnose opened, now rebooting
[16:55] <Kilos> woohooo
[16:55] <Kilos> Langjan sien jy nou hoekom boer ek hier
[16:55] <Langjan> hoowhooo!!! just checking on reboot
[16:55] <Langjan> grub menu showing correctly
[16:56] <pieter2627> Kilos: maze, corn, or ... :P
[16:56] <Kilos> brains
[16:56] <Kilos> if you mix with clever peeps you start smelling clever
[16:57] <Langjan> screen resolution now its running around in circles, not booting after grub menu shows
[16:58] <Kilos> ai!
[16:58] <Kilos> think tank
[16:59] <Langjan> ai tog
[16:59] <Kilos> reboot again and hit top recovery mode
[17:00] <Langjan> Theres no recovery mode. Run boot repair from DVD?
[17:01] <Kilos> no
[17:01] <pieter2627> sorry have to go, will be back in 30min - try updating grub again since that file is back
[17:01] <Kilos> sudo update-grub
[17:01] <Langjan> thks pieter2627
[17:01] <Langjan> its not bootin Kilos
[17:02] <Kilos> oh my
[17:02] <Kilos> kill power and try again
[17:02] <Langjan> ok
[17:03] <Langjan> same problem running back to grub meny
[17:03] <Langjan> menu, not booting
[17:03] <Kilos> ok boot-repair
[17:04] <Kilos> wow
[17:04] <Kilos> as jy n ding breek doen jy n goie job ne
[17:04] <Kilos> goeie
[17:04] <Langjan> ja man, die boeremanier
[17:04] <Langjan> sal laat weet as ek klaar is
[17:04] <Kilos> hahaha
[17:04] <Kilos> ok
[17:16] <Langjan> Kilos ek verstaan nie, het voorheen boot repair op hierdie dvd gedoen, nou kry ek hom nie
[17:17] <Kilos> lol
[17:17] <Kilos> jy moet dit eers gaam kry
[17:18] <Kilos> sudo add-apt-repository ppa:yannubuntu/boot-repair
[17:18] <Langjan> kry hom ook nie, trying another dvd
[17:19] <Kilos> nee man dis daar bo
[17:19] <Kilos> o jy moet eers sudo apt-get update
[17:19] <Langjan> dankie ek sal nou weer daar wees, gaan eers eet
[17:19] <Kilos> ok
[17:46] <pieter2627> hello again
[17:46] <Kilos> hi pieter2627
[17:47] <pieter2627> so het oom nou al die fun klaar uit gesort?
[17:47] <Kilos> nee eks seker daar is fout in die conf files iewers
[17:48] <pieter2627> ouch
[17:48] <Kilos> maar nou boot die ding nie so dis eers boot-reoair
[17:48] <pieter2627> soos nou-nou?
[17:49] <Kilos> jy die oomie eet eers
[17:49] <Kilos> hy nog agt jaar ouer as ek
[17:50] <Kilos> hy sal se en twee maande
[17:50] <pieter2627> ??
[17:51] <Kilos> 8 jaar en twee maande
[17:51] <Langjan> ja seuntjie, julle skinder lekker ne?
[17:51] <Kilos> lol
[17:51] * pieter2627 moppel nee en soel vir n gat
[17:51] <Kilos> lol
[17:51] <pieter2627> soek*
[17:51] <Langjan> Kiloos help asb weer hoe werk die boot repair van dte DVD af? Ek het nou die install en update gedoen, wat volg?
[17:52] <Kilos> sudo apt-get update
[17:52] <Langjan> klaar gedoen
[17:52] <Kilos> sudo add-apt-repository ppa:yannubuntu/boot-repair
[17:52] <Langjan> dit ook
[17:52] <Langjan> probeer weer
[17:52] <Kilos> dan weer sudo apt-get update
[17:53] <Kilos> sudo apt-get install -y boot-repair && boot-repair
[17:56] <Langjan> ok boot repair running
[17:56] <Kilos> yay
[17:57] <Kilos> then we have to find something to fix config files
[17:57] <Langjan> Het jy geweet daar was 'n klompie Engelsmans by die slag van Bloedrivier?
[17:57] <Langjan> By die boere...
[17:58] <Kilos> daar is goeie engelse
[17:58] <Langjan> en bliksems vir boere
[17:58] <Kilos> lol
[17:59] <Kilos> almal het goeies en slegtes
[17:59] <Langjan> amen
[18:00] <Langjan> same problem Kilos
[18:00] <Langjan> sorry to say
[18:00] <Kilos> sjoe
[18:00] <Kilos> wat is on there you want to save
[18:01] <Langjan> grub gives advanced options recovery mode, rying tht
[18:01] <Kilos> ok
[18:01] <Langjan> recovery menu - which option?
[18:01] <Kilos> what are the options
[18:02] <Kilos> fsck somewhere
[18:02] <Langjan> sorry, eskom loadshed, see you later, running on UPS
[18:02] <Kilos> ok
[18:04] <Kilos> ai! die eskom darem
[18:04] <Kilos> naand inetpro
[18:07] <pieter2627> Kilos: am now checking the site for spelling - on the join us page, how is the second paragraph (ending) suppose to read?
[18:07] <Langjan> rebooted and working fine, many many thks to Pieter also, slaap lekker. Als nou reg hierdie kant behalwe eskom
[18:07] <Kilos> let me see
[18:08] <Kilos> kom sien ons more oompie
[18:08] <Langjan> Ne ema se net drie hoeras
[18:08] <Langjan> als werk reg
[18:08] <Kilos> lol
[18:08] <Kilos> mooi
[18:08] <pieter2627> np Langjan, lekker slaap vir oom ook
[18:08] <Langjan> slaap lekker en baie dankies
[18:08] <Kilos> plesier
[18:08] <Langjan> dankie pieter2627 jyook
[18:08] <Kilos> kom enige tyd weer
[18:08] <Langjan> en dankie vir al die hulp.ardeer baie
[18:09] <Langjan> waardeer
[18:09] <Kilos> thats why we are here
[18:10] <Kilos> ai!
[18:10] <pieter2627> lol
[18:11] <Kilos> a lot of meaning to your life.
[18:11] <Jacques_Stry> And i'm in the dark :)
[18:11] <Kilos> should be add a lot of meaning to your life.
[18:11] <Kilos> aw Jacques_Stry
[18:11] <Jacques_Stry> Ah well knew we were going off
[18:11] <pieter2627> thought so - just wanted to confirm, thanks
[18:12] <Kilos> i love helping others even when i do it wrong
[18:12] <Kilos> i know there are brains that will back me up and correct my mistakes
[18:12] <Jacques_Stry> Nee oom het goed gedoen daar
[18:12] <pieter2627> Luckely two falses are true :P
[18:13] <pieter2627> ja heeltemal self reg gemaak
[18:13] <Kilos> ja maar ek moes eers die broken packages reg gemaak het
[18:13] <Kilos> ek het sy epos te laat gelees
[18:13] <pieter2627> reg is reg...
[18:15] <Kilos> ek sukkel net as ek nie unity voor my het nie
[18:21] <gremble> Good evening
[18:22] * Jacques_Stry waves
[18:22] <Kilos> hi gremble
[18:22] <pieter2627> evenong gremble
[18:22] <pieter2627> evening*
[18:22] <Kilos> you are way to scarce man you need to finish them studies
[18:23] <gremble> I do
[18:23] <pieter2627> Kilos: on the same page; list on bottom; second item. just want to check it too
[18:23] <Kilos> ok
[18:23] <gremble> I also need to find a part time job that means something more than a sales clerk at exclusive books
[18:23] <gremble> :P
[18:24] <Kilos> daai how can i help lys?
[18:25] <Kilos> whew gremble good luck with that
[18:25] <gremble> thank you
[18:25] <gremble> how are things going here?
[18:25] <pieter2627> uh, oo ja daai een
[18:25] <Kilos> we are so busy feet dont touch the ground
[18:26] <Kilos> pieter2627 dit lyk reg vir my
[18:27] <Kilos> when last were you here gremble
[18:27] <Kilos> our africa site has launched
[18:27] <gremble> When you told inetpro to find all the old people that used to hang out here
[18:27] <gremble> and then I made my page on the ubuntu wiki
[18:27] <Kilos> sjoe when was that
[18:27] <gremble> week or so ago I think
[18:28] <Kilos> before or after site launch
[18:28] <magespawn> good evening
[18:28] <Kilos> hi magespawn
[18:28] <gremble> Hey magespawn
[18:28] <gremble> I have no idea
[18:28] <magespawn> anybody know about regualar expressions?
[18:28] <Kilos> http://ubuntu-africa.info hit refresh a few times on first page
[18:29] <Kilos> whats that magespawn
[18:29] <MaNI> sure, what about them?
[18:29] <pieter2627> 'and helping people use it` feels like it needs something like `helping people to use it` or `helping people who are using it`?
[18:29] <gremble> regular expressions are turing complete and you cannot validate a regular expression with a regular expression because of the halting problem
[18:29] <gremble> I have never used them much in a programming environment though
[18:29] <magespawn> can you use the . twice or more in a search?
[18:29] <MaNI> sure
[18:29] <magespawn> as in a..2 ?
[18:29] <pieter2627> evening magespawn
[18:29] <Kilos> helping people who are having problems using it
[18:30] <magespawn> now that is cool
[18:30] <magespawn> hi pieter2627
[18:30] <magespawn> thanks MaNI
[18:30] <Kilos> in place of it put ubuntu
[18:31] <MaNI> can use it as many times as you want though you may find {m, n} better for that
[18:31] <Kilos> or even helping people who are learning to use ubuntu
[18:31] <pieter2627> magespawn: a fun site to test regex http://regexr.com/
[18:32] <magespawn> thank you pieter2627
[18:32] <MaNI> there is also a quite big dedicated channel for it here on freenode somewhere - #regex I think
[18:32] <pieter2627> Kilos: `and by helping new and old to use Ubuntu`
[18:33] <Kilos> add efficiently
[18:33] <Kilos> superfly help
[18:33] <magespawn> MaNI: i will see what i can dig up
[18:33] <superfly> huh?
[18:34] <Kilos> http://ubuntu-africa.info/join-us.html
[18:34] <Kilos> last list
[18:34] <pieter2627> * to use ubuntu efficiently?
[18:34] <Kilos> ya that can work
[18:34] <Kilos> helping new and old to use ubuntu efficiently
[18:34] <pieter2627> will also make it a new seperate item?
[18:35] <Kilos> oh i also had another idea with the site
[18:35] <Kilos> can we somehow add a welcome in french and swahili
[18:36] <Kilos> i can get the french translated but havent found swahili peeps yet
[18:36] <pieter2627> we should be able to
[18:36] <Kilos> there are over 3000 languages in africa
[18:36] <magespawn> google translate?
[18:36] <pieter2627> can't we use google translate for now
[18:37] <Kilos> no magespawn much better to get proper translater
[18:37] <Kilos> if we are going to make a translation lets do it right
[18:37] <Kilos> google makes mistakes
[18:38] <Kilos> maybe leave swahili out
[18:38] <Kilos> elacheche will do the french
[18:38] <Kilos> or we can ask melodie when she appears again
[18:39] <Kilos> the translations can wait atm i think
[18:42] <Kilos> pieter2627 try good translate with i would really like to visit your domain
[18:42] <Kilos> into afrikaans
[18:43] <Kilos> now it will most likely get it right
[18:43] <Kilos> it works fine with one word
[18:44] <pieter2627> good translate?? (i should translate 'i would...' with it)
[18:45] <Kilos> nee man it messed up a german translation the other day
[18:46] <pieter2627> 'ek wil regtig graag jou domein te besoek` with google translate
[18:46] <magespawn> are you planning to load different languages based on who visits ths site?
[18:46] <Kilos> dont forget we are translating to a language we dont know so better to get peeps that speak the language to do it
[18:46] <Kilos> sien dis verkeerd
[18:46] <pieter2627> oky
[18:46] <Kilos> magespawn maybe a link or something to language choice
[18:47] <magespawn> you can have the site autodetect it based on the os and browser, i think
[18:47] <Kilos> like the drc peeps visited but didnt join till i emailed them in french
[18:48] <Kilos> we dont want to get too involved i think'
[18:48] <Kilos> the simpler the better
[18:49] <magespawn> check with superfly, maybe it is simple to do
[18:49] <Kilos> maybe just a link to a paste somewhere with the greeting in different languages
[18:49] <Kilos> he very busy
[18:49] <superfly> people are mentioning my name and then saying nothing. what do you all want?
[18:49] <Kilos> the trick will be getting good translations
[18:50] <Kilos> superfly we are discussing adding differnet languages to the site
[18:50] <magespawn> superfly: how difficult is it to have ubuntu-africa in mutiple languages from a programming point of view?
[18:50] <superfly> ah
[18:50] <superfly> it's possible
[18:50] <Kilos> but you havent got time to scroll back
[18:50] <superfly> nikola supports translation
[18:51] * pieter2627 is now beginning to like nikola :)
[18:51] <Kilos> like mali joined but only understand french
[18:51] <Kilos> luckily i got elacheche involved
[18:52] <magespawn> could you use nikola to translate the site?
[18:52] <Kilos> but i havent found other translaters other than melodie
[18:53] <Kilos> not yet anyway
[18:56] <Kilos> hi drazoro
[18:56] <superfly> I haven't looked into exactly how to do it, but I know that it's mentioned in the config file, so take a look at the documentation
[18:58] <magespawn> i will see what i can find
[18:58] <drazoro> Kilos, Greetings
[18:58] <magespawn> Kilos: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Regular_expression more reading i know
[18:59] <Kilos> ai!
[18:59] <Kilos> nono man dont give me programming stuff to read
[18:59] <Kilos> i have enought probs hiding form the boss man
[19:00] <magespawn> no this is just general bacground fyi stuff
[19:00] <pieter2627> Kilos: where is that `africa(n)` spelling issue - found a lot of others but not it
[19:00] <magespawn> and this is usful
[19:00] <Kilos> near the beginning
[19:00] <pieter2627> that s/org/sub/ is the basic of regular expressions
[19:01] <pieter2627> beginning of which page?
[19:01] <Kilos> wait man ive even lost it too
[19:01] <pieter2627> haha ok
[19:03] <magespawn> i now now what grep stands for
[19:03] <magespawn> know
[19:04] <Kilos> its somewhere where it talks about ubuntu and kubuntu a more tradition/al system
[19:04] <Kilos> ive lost it now
[19:05] <Kilos> get ubuntu maybe
[19:05] <Kilos> no today it looks different
[19:06] <Kilos> lets start at the very beginning
[19:06] <pieter2627> get ubuntu: step 1: kubuntu
[19:06] <Kilos> a very good place to start
[19:06] <Kilos> no it was an all in one story
[19:06] <Kilos> like a paragraph
[19:07] <pieter2627> 'is a more tradition user interface' should be traditional
[19:08] <Kilos> why does the first learn more go to 15.05
[19:08] <Kilos> how did that happen
[19:08] <Kilos> yaya you got it
[19:09] <Kilos> good man
[19:09] <Kilos> where did you find that
[19:11] <Kilos> im sure the site is picking up stuff from somehwere else
[19:12] <superfly> magespawn: it's often called "i18n" - internationalization
[19:12] <superfly> an "i", 18 letters, and an "n"
[19:15] <pieter2627> Kilos: Get Ubuntu page; Step 1 section; kubuntu description
[19:16] <Kilos> oh ya ty
[19:16] <Kilos> i think the chick with the 15.04 lappy might be a mistake
[19:16] <Kilos> 15.10 it has to change
[19:17] <Kilos> then 16.04 again
[19:17] <pieter2627> ??
[19:17] <Kilos> oh i see
[19:17] <Kilos> what is ubuntu goes to another link
[19:18] <Kilos> http://www.ubuntu.com
[19:18] <Kilos> or is that only mine
[19:20] <pieter2627> mine does too
[19:21] <Kilos> yay then ubuntu must keep that up to date
[19:22] <pieter2627> does edits are up at https://code.launchpad.net/~pieter2627/ubuntu-africa/layout-edit_Spelling-
[19:22] <Kilos> nee man
[19:22] <Kilos> jy moet branch maak van trunk
[19:22] <pieter2627> s/does/those/
[19:23] <Kilos> ons moet so min as moontlik werk vir vlieg gee
[19:23] <pieter2627> daai is van trunk?
[19:25] <pieter2627> ek het ge `bzr branch trunk layout-edit...`
[19:25] <Kilos> o is dit nie ubuntu-africa/trunk en dan ander branch nie
[19:25] <Kilos> oi nou vloek jy my
[19:25] <pieter2627> het het cd na binne die ubuntu-africa dir
[19:26] <Kilos> ok ons sal hoor wat se vlieg
[19:26] <Kilos> anyway ek val amper van stoel af hier
[19:27] <Kilos> night all. sleep tight
[19:43] <melodie> hello
[20:22] <melodie> good night
[21:09] <smile> Slaapwel :)
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2015-04-23-#kubuntu-devel
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[00:54] * ahoneybun partys
[00:54] <ahoneybun> *parties
[00:56] <sgclark> I got brave and installed unstable CI on my laptop. So far nice and smooth
[07:06] <ovidiu-florin> ahoneybun Riddell I've talked to the maintainer and this is now fixed: https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=346498
[07:19] <Riddell> ovidiu-florin: thanks, that could do with an sru I guess
[07:20] <ovidiu-florin> sru?
[07:20] <Riddell> stable update
[07:24] <ovidiu-florin> Riddell: I don't think I understand
[07:24] <valorie> ovidiu-florin: it is paperwork that has to be filed
[07:25] <valorie> and he wants YOU to do it
[07:25] <valorie> lol
[07:25] * ovidiu-florin still doesn't understand
[07:27] <kfunk> ovidiu-florin: work!
[07:27] <ovidiu-florin> ok, you all are not making any sense
[07:27] <ovidiu-florin> are you moking me?
[07:28] <valorie> no, Riddell is trying to get you to file some bureaucratic but necessary paperwork called an SRU
[07:28] <valorie> !sru
[07:28] <valorie> no joke
[07:29] <ovidiu-florin> I'll have to read about that
[07:29] <ovidiu-florin> but I can't right now
[07:29] <ovidiu-florin> can I do this this afternoon?
[07:29] <ovidiu-florin> I'm at work right now
[07:30] <Riddell> or I'll do it
[07:32] <ovidiu-florin> I didn't say I won't do it
[07:32] <ovidiu-florin> just that I'm at work right now
[07:32] <ovidiu-florin> and I cannot alocate the time to document myself about it
[07:32] <ovidiu-florin> right now
[07:33] * valorie {{{{{{{{{{{{hugs}}}}}}}}}}}}}}} ovidiu-florin
[07:33] <valorie> happy release day, everybody
[07:33] <ovidiu-florin> I'll skim through it in my lunch break
[07:33] <ovidiu-florin> happy realease day
[07:33] <ovidiu-florin> Party tonoght? on Hangouts?
[07:33] <ovidiu-florin> tonight?
[07:35] <valorie> I'm in #ubuntu-release-party
[07:35] * ovidiu-florin joined
[07:35] <valorie> same questions over and over, basically
[07:41] <ovidiu-florin> what questions?
[07:45] <lordievader> Good morning.
[07:49] <valorie> "is it out yet?"
[07:49] <valorie> and "when will it be out?"
[07:50] <valorie> one million times
[07:50] <valorie> lol
[07:50] <ovidiu-florin> where?
[07:50] <valorie> my lil netbook is now on latest
[07:50] <ovidiu-florin> in Party?
[07:50] <valorie> only took like 4 hours
[07:50] <valorie> yes, in party
[08:02] <sitter> am I out yet?
[08:03] <valorie> no, you're still in the closet
[08:05] <lordievader> Today Kubuntu decided not to release Vivid but a wild sitter instead :P
[08:05] <valorie> lol
[08:05] <sitter> quite the plot twist there
[08:11] <ovidiu-florin> lol
[08:16] <soee> yofel: devs on #plasma confirmed that with Plasma 5.3 "show desktop" behaviour has changed, and it hides panels also, so it is not a bug :)
[08:18] <lordievader> Hides panels... hmm, gotta remember that.
[08:54] <Riddell> so who can test i386?
[08:55] <Riddell> sitter: are you going to play us a live stream of david hasslehoff like in the good old days?
[08:55] <valorie> Riddell: I just upgraded my Atom netbook successfully
[08:55] <valorie> from an old 14.10
[08:56] <valorie> took a couple of hours just to upgrade to latest 14.10
[08:56] <valorie> :-)
[08:57] <vip> hi ho
[08:58] <valorie> I guess I'll start the other laptop upgrading too, before toddling off
[08:59] <Riddell> hi vip, fancy running an i386 test?
[08:59] <Riddell> good luck valorie :)
[09:08] <vip> Riddell: why not, but only under vbox
[09:11] <sitter> Riddell: no hoff today I am afraid
[09:12] <Riddell> vip: vbox is all good thanks :)
[09:13] <ahoneybun> yay \o/
[09:14] <Riddell> it's sant jordi's day!
[09:14] * Riddell hands a rose to all the ladies in the room to fit in with the local somewhat chauvenistic culture
[09:15] <ahoneybun> it's also a Doctor Who fan holiday
[09:20] <Riddell> um, why's that?
[09:20] <yofel> soee: well, okay...
[09:22] <Riddell> hi markey_work, excited about the release?!
[09:23] <ahoneybun> Riddell: Impossible Astronaut Day, the day that Song came to kill the Doctor
[09:23] <Riddell> ooh that's not good!
[09:24] <ahoneybun> yea
[09:41] <ovidiu-florin> So it's out?
[09:42] <lordievader> ahoneybun: Is that today? Hmm... doesn't promise good things.
[09:44] <mparillo> ovidiu-florin: <infinity> flexiondotorg: Aiming for mid-afternoon London time, ish.
[09:49] <vip> Riddell: i386 installed, with updates at installation, polish
[09:53] <Riddell> vip: lovely, please tick off non-english http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/milestones/338/builds/92414/testcases
[10:02] <vip> Riddell: I can't log in
[10:03] <vip> after login.ubuntu.com, there's: Complete the registration by filling out the form below. If you already have an account, you can log in now and add your OpenID under "My account".
[10:03] <vip> and no form below
[10:03] <Riddell> vip: do you have an account on launchpad?
[10:03] * ahoneybun is logged in
[10:04] <vip> Riddell: probably yes
[10:04] <Riddell> vip: are you using that?
[10:05] <Riddell> vip: or just tell ahoneybun what to tick :)
[10:09] * sitter raises an eyebrow
[10:10] <vip> Riddell: I didn't know, i've to log-in with launchpad account; site says only about ubuntu one accoutn; anyway, ticked
[10:10] <Riddell> vip: it's the same account
[10:10] <Riddell> vip: yay welcome to the elite world of kubuntu testers! :)
[10:11] <Riddell> and oem I know is broken so that's all the tests we need to tick release!
[10:12] <ahoneybun> might have missed a few things (internet went down)
[10:13] <ahoneybun> \o/
[10:14] <vip> Riddell: oh, thanks
[10:18] <ahoneybun> vip: did you get it ticked?
[10:19] <ahoneybun> oh yes
[10:19] <vip> ahoneybun: yes
[10:19] <ahoneybun> thanks vip
[10:19] <vip> hope it is done right
[10:19] <ahoneybun> should be fine vip
[10:20] <lordievader> Nice nice. We are ready for release?
[10:20] <vip> lordievader: for me? nope ;) i'm waiting for two bad bugs to be fixed
[10:21] <vip> hate them, personally
[10:22] <lordievader> vip: I was reacting to queubot ;)
[10:22] <vip> sooo
[10:23] <vip> tell him not to release :-)
[10:23] <lordievader> vip: What bugs are you talking about anyways?
[10:25] <vip> https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=341959 and https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=343448
[10:25] <vip> oh, thank you
[10:27] <vip> I can (almost) live with them, but if I could, I would install kde4 back
[10:51] <BluesKaj> Howdy all
[10:53] <Riddell> hi BluesKaj
[10:53] <Riddell> just in time for the party
[10:54] <sitter> terrible day to quit smoking -.-
[11:01] <BluesKaj> Hi Riddell , party chat ...ubuntu-parteeee ? -:-)
[11:25] <Riddell> sitter: it's always a good day to quit smoking
[11:28] <sitter> poppycock
[11:41] <sitter> ah
[11:41] <sitter> Riddell: the symbol update in plasma possibly was in kdecoration
[11:41] <sitter> at least the last update on apr10 failed because of the move from lxc to docker
[11:43] <sitter> uh uh uh
[11:43] <sitter> lol
[11:44] <sitter> [W] merger: Apparently there is no branch named kubuntu_vidid_backports!
[11:44] <sitter> merger was broken for backports
[11:44] <Riddell> typo
[11:44] <sitter> I need to refactor the branch names into some lib or something
[11:45] <sitter> way too much duplication
[11:49] <sitter> well then, test covered now
[11:49] * sitter fears the amount of fail that will cause
[11:52] <soee> Riddell: how about theh kdeinit5 crahs fix, is it in 5.3 ?
[11:58] <Riddell> soee: I think so
[11:59] <soee> Riddell: cool :)
[12:05] * Riddell spots http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/releases/vivid/release/
[12:54] <BluesKaj> I'm still not happy with plsama 4 integration with plasma 5. The kate text editor and dolphin file manager fonts on the toolbars are still too small to read on this large monitor even after setting up the fonts on system settings with root permissions...but I've only complained about this 20 times , maybe I'll have to keep reminding those devs that have small screens that there are others who use large ones in this day and age
[12:56] <Riddell> kate is kf5
[12:58] <BluesKaj> yes Riddell, but it doesn't change it's fonts in system settings like it should, so it's acting like it's still plasma 4
[12:58] <BluesKaj> here at least, maybe I'm missing some libs ?
[13:01] <lordievader> BluesKaj: Large screen as in high resolution, or as in large physical size?
[13:01] <sebas> BluesKaj: consider understanding that the solution to a software problem is not necessarily "I don't complain enough to the developers"
[13:01] <lordievader> Also why system settings as root?
[13:01] <sebas> systemsettings as root makes zero sense (if you're not running your desktop as root)
[13:01] <BluesKaj> lordievader, both
[13:01] <lordievader> How high?
[13:02] <lordievader> Resolution I mean.
[13:03] <BluesKaj> when i want to edit sources.list for example and save the settings ...resolution 1920x1080 minimum
[13:04] <lordievader> On this 2560x1440 fonts were fine and readable with default settings.
[13:04] <BluesKaj> this is a 42" monitor/TV
[13:05] <lordievader> TV? TV's are usually quite crappy in displaying text.
[13:05] <BluesKaj> amd I'm 3.5M away
[13:05] <BluesKaj> it displays very well if the font can be increased enough
[13:06] <BluesKaj> just increase the dpi about 10% more
[13:07] <BluesKaj> it used to work on plasma 4, suddenly the tes=xt inside the file will accept the setting , but not the toolbars etc
[13:09] <BluesKaj> anyway , I have to go for a few mins ...bbl
[13:38] <Riddell> Sput: do you have a reference for the bug fixed in 0.12.1?
[13:39] <Riddell> http://bugs.quassel-irc.org/ doesn't seem to list any
[13:41] <Sput> no, there was no bug filed
[13:41] <Riddell> Sput: how can I test that the bug is fixed?
[13:42] * Riddell files https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/quassel/+bug/1447613
[13:42] <Sput> basically you need a quasselcore using postgres running on a server that does not run in UTC, and check if timestamps are correct on backlog reply
[13:43] <Sput> unfortunately, today we found another bug related to postgres restarts not handled properly, which will result in a 0.12.2 in the next few days :( the 0.12 cycle is cursed for some reason
[13:43] <Riddell> ok we'll see if that gets past the SRU gatekeepers :)
[13:44] <BluesKaj> good ol' konverstion, but then i don't need a core /server
[13:44] <Sput> Qt5 silently changing behavior in its psql driver has caused us lots of trouble already
[13:46] <Sput> BluesKaj: konvi also doesn't store/replay backlog :)
[13:46] <BluesKaj> yeah, but who cares :)
[13:47] <BluesKaj> suppose quassel is good for devs etc
[13:47] <sebas> Sput: btw ... do you have any info about https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=774860 ?
[13:47] <sebas> seems quasselcore's current debian packages crash on multicore systems
[13:47] <sebas> (I can reproduce, works fine on a singlecore raspi)
[13:48] <Sput> nope, I'm not aware of that problem (and the backtrace isn't really helpful)
[13:48] <Sput> can you reproduce on a recent core? 0.8 is ancient
[13:49] <sitter> Riddell: bluez-qt be red
[13:49] <Riddell> it should be blue!
[13:50] <Riddell> ScottK: bug 1447613 and bug 1434052 has srus for your pleasure
[13:51] <ScottK> Riddell: OK. Did we release yet? I'd rather hold off until after that.
[13:51] <Riddell> ScottK: not as far as I know
[13:51] * Riddell checks #ubuntu-release-party
[13:51] <Riddell> no, it's not out yet
[13:51] <BluesKaj> no official anouncement yet
[13:54] <sebas> Sput: I haven't built a recent core, but I can try that on my laptop
[13:54] <sebas> Sput: perhaps the packager needs a poke to just issue an update
[13:55] <Sput> sebas: mostly asking because lots of changes have gone into the whole core connection stuff post-0.8
[13:55] <sebas> yup, makes sense
[13:55] <ScottK> Debian releases on Saturday, so odds of new packages in Debian go up after that.
[13:56] <Sho_> Sput: Doing anything with Qt Quick in Quassel these days btw?
[13:56] <sitter> Sho_: did I tell you about your combobox vs. lineedit height?
[13:57] <Sho_> sitter: Yep but when I wanted to react you had gone
[13:57] <Sput> Sho_: nope
[13:58] <Sho_> sitter: It's possible it's our fault, IIRC we have custom code to size the input line because it's a KTextEdit pretending to be a KLineEdit instead of an actual line edit
[13:58] <Sho_> sitter: I don't have the nick combo enabled so I didn't notice so far
[13:58] <Sho_> sitter: That said I'm not sure I like the height of the combo box much
[14:00] <Sho_> Sput: I started working on a new Quick-based text widget for Konvi, but progress has been slow lately for lack of time
[14:01] <sitter> Sho_: do you want a bug report for that? mind you, I doubt people actually notice I only noticed by chance when taking a screenshot of that particular area
[14:01] <sitter> for me it's more a "cannot be unseen" problem ^^
[14:02] <Sho_> sitter: No, I'll look into it today because it bugs me now too
[14:02] <sitter> xD
[14:02] <Sput> Sho_: yeah, lack of time is a known issue :)
[14:05] * lordievader goes to torrent iso's
[14:09] <Sho_> sitter: Would you prefer the combo to be the size of the input line or the other way around, personally?
[14:09] <lordievader> Time to seed :D
[14:10] <sitter> Sho_: latter, less wasted space IMO
[14:10] <Sho_> sitter: that confused me :)
[14:10] <Sho_> sitter: but basically qMin instead of qMax, right?
[14:11] <sitter> Sho_: nono, qmax :P
[14:11] <Sho_> Hmm
[14:11] <Sho_> Then I don't get the wasted space comment
[14:11] <Sho_> Because the combo is larger than it needs to be
[14:12] <sitter> Sho_: by that I meant less space that isn't used for anything
[14:13] <sitter> i.e. it would be used by the bigger input line
[14:13] <Sho_> sitter: But that dead space above the input line exists only because the combo box is raising the ceiling
[14:13] <Sho_> If the combo is smaller it goes away
[14:13] <sitter> aaaaaaah
[14:13] <sitter> Sho_: shrink the combobox then
[14:13] * sitter did not realize its the comobobox' fault
[14:14] <Sho_> Which means ignoring Breeze's preferred size for the combo, which is technically evil
[14:14] <Sho_> But I think it's hilariously large for a piece of main chat UI
[14:14] <sitter> *nod*
[14:19] <sitter> Riddell: kwallet and bluez-qt red
[14:22] <Riddell> sitter: hmm should I have done the stop until the script finishes?
[14:24] <sitter> Riddell: you should remove upstream patches :P
[14:24] <sitter> Riddell: which script btw?
[14:25] <Riddell> sitter: kubuntu-initial-upload for 5.3.0
[14:26] <sitter> ah yeah, you should have run the integration pause job
[14:26] <sitter> no matter though as the build queue is filled up with builds from the merges anyway
[14:29] <sitter> plasma addons red
[15:11] <Riddell> http://news.softpedia.com/news/Kubuntu-15-04-Officially-Released-Based-on-Beautiful-Plasma-5-Desktop-479175.shtml screenshots
[15:11] <Riddell> mparillo: worth a wire post? ↑
[15:25] <BluesKaj> Riddell, is that officially sanctioned or is it premature ?
[15:25] <shadeslayer> whoop whoop
[15:25] <shadeslayer> released
[15:26] <shadeslayer> congrats on the release everyone
[15:26] <shadeslayer> now onto 15.10
[15:26] <shadeslayer> :D
[15:26] <Riddell> how's this? http://www.kubuntu.org/
[15:26] <Riddell> ** proofreaders please check ↑
[15:26] <Riddell> !testers | proofread ↑
[15:27] <shadeslayer> looks good
[15:27] <BluesKaj> cool
[15:28] <Riddell> ** Kubuntu 15.04 http://www.kubuntu.org/news/kubuntu-15.04
[15:29] <tuv0k> thats nice!
[15:32] <tsdgeos> Riddell: can you reproduce that konsole crash on quit all the time?
[15:32] <Riddell> tsdgeos: yes I can
[15:32] <tsdgeos> weird
[15:32] <tsdgeos> :D
[15:33] <Riddell> tsdgeos: do you get it?
[15:33] <tsdgeos> not at all
[15:33] <Riddell> hmm, I wonder if it's just me
[15:33] <Riddell> anyone else get a crash on konsole close?
[15:33] <tuv0k> not here
[15:34] <Riddell> sitter had it
[15:34] <tsdgeos> Riddell: how are you quitting?
[15:39] <Riddell> tsdgeos: alt-f4
[15:39] <Riddell> or typing "exit"
[15:41] <tsdgeos> ah may be that i don't use breeze
[15:42] <tsdgeos> nope, not that either
[15:42] <tsdgeos> maybe it's the kwin breeze, will try later if i get bored
[15:49] * Riddell blogs http://jriddell.org/2015/04/23/kubuntu-15-04-the-most-beautiful-desktop-alive/
[15:49] <Riddell> tsdgeos: I doubt it, otherwise other apps would get the same, it's only on apps that use kuniqueapplication
[15:50] <Riddell> awooga, it's all out!
[15:52] <Riddell> thanks ahoneybun, allee, BluesKaj, claydoh_, Darkwing, debfx, Mamarok, mitya57, Mirv, mparillo, ovidiu-florin, sgclark, Quintasan, ScottK, shadeslayer, starbuck1, vangelis, yofel and anyone I might have missed ! great team effort this cycle :)
[15:52] <mparillo> Riddell: Is softpedia jumping the gun?
[15:52] <Riddell> I'm really pleased with how plasma 5 is doing
[15:52] <sgclark> looks great!
[15:52] <Riddell> mparillo: they did but it's all out now so cannae be too fussy :)
[15:52] <shadeslayer> I've also posted on HN, go upvote
[15:52] <mparillo> Wiring away.
[15:52] <Mirv> :)
[15:53] <shadeslayer> https://news.ycombinator.com/submitted?id=shadeslayer < top link here
[15:54] <starbuck1> Riddell, allee, BluesKaj, claydoh_, Darkwing, debfx, Mamarok, mitya57, Mirv, mparillo, ovidiu-florin, sgclark, Quintasan, ScottK, shadeslayer, vangelis, yofel: congrats on the release!
[15:55] <sgclark> :)
[16:03] <mparillo> Now that it is out, I will create a clean new 14.10 VM to test whether I need to revert: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VividUpgrades/Kubuntu
[16:04] <Riddell> mparillo: why might you need to revert?
[16:08] <mitya57> Thanks to all of you as well! :)
[16:13] <mparillo> I was unsuccessful with the hosts magic.
[16:13] <mparillo> So I might need to revert to the krunner version.
[16:14] <Riddell> mparillo: hmm no, it worked fine for me
[16:14] <mparillo> But today I should not need the hosts magic, correct?
[16:14] <Riddell> mparillo: right
[16:14] <Riddell> although it hasn't updated yet http://changelogs.ubuntu.com/meta-release
[16:14] <mparillo> Don't worry, I will not revert without posting here first.
[16:17] <Mamarok> erm, what is that Snappy thing? no more deb packages for Unity? sounds strange..
[16:19] <Riddell> I guess it means you could install ubuntu and like android or windows etc just get updates for the whole OS
[16:19] <Riddell> I guess
[16:19] <Riddell> I need to read about it
[16:19] <Riddell> and some package system on top of it
[16:22] <ovidiu-florin> yuhuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu
[16:23] <Riddell> wheee!
[16:28] <Riddell> plasma 5.3 backports http://qa.kubuntu.co.uk/plasma-status/build_status_5.3.0_vivid.html
[16:29] <mparillo> Riddell: Now that I see Vivid in http://changelogs.ubuntu.com/meta-release that means I should be able to upgrade through Muon without the hosts magic?
[16:30] <Riddell> mparillo: yep
[16:32] <shadeslayer> FWIW Riddell has wandered off for a few hours
[16:37] <sgclark> yippie approved for akademy :)
[16:38] <mparillo> Then I cannot share the good news, that I was able to initiate the distribution upgrade through Muon without hosts magic. Yesterday, I would click on the distribution upgrade box in Muon, enter my password, and nothing happened. Today, after entering my password, I see the distribution upgrader start. IIRC it takes over an hour in my VM.
[16:46] <ovidiu-florin> how can I check the current status of the build of libkf5filemetadata-dev ?
[16:46] <ovidiu-florin> for Kubuntu
[16:52] <yofel> ovidiu-florin: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kfilemetadata-kf5/5.6.2-0ubuntu1 has the build status
[16:59] <ovidiu-florin> baloo-kf5 - 5.9.0 requires libkf5filemetadata-dev 5.9.0
[16:59] <ovidiu-florin> http://qa.kubuntu.co.uk/plasma-status/build_status_5.3.0_vivid.html first one
[17:00] <yofel> ah - but kfilemetadata is on the same page
[17:00] <ovidiu-florin> ah
[17:00] <ovidiu-florin> let me look in to it
[17:00] <ovidiu-florin> I've missed that
[17:01] <ovidiu-florin> the log says Built successfully
[17:01] <ScottK> Riddell: Looks like your SRUs got accepted.
[17:01] <ovidiu-florin> why is it marked as failed to build?
[17:01] <yofel> ovidiu-florin: I retried baloo, kfm wasn't built yet when baloo failed
[17:02] <ovidiu-florin> yofel: how did you do that?
[17:02] <yofel> if you click on the architecture you get to the build page, there's a retry button there (if you have permission to do that)
[17:02] <ovidiu-florin> why is kfm marked with red if the build was succesfull?
[17:03] <yofel> it says at the top "version incorrect" - that build page is for plasma 5.3, not kf5 5.9
[17:03] <yofel> that check is from the time when packages that got released at the same time actually had the same version...
[17:04] <yofel> how simple the world was back then..
[17:09] <frecel> is anyone else running kubuntu with nvidia drivers installed?
[17:09] <frecel> because I have a ton of kwin issues
[17:17] <snele_> is kubuntu going to be affected by this? http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=Ubuntu-15.10-DEB-To-Snap
[17:28] <BluesKaj> plasma 5.3 beta isn't working out on my other HDD, lost the screen altogether and Xserver is running, but only the cursor show up...guess I'll revert to the new image and forget the plasma beta 5.3
[17:54] <soee> why oh why desktop right click is not working for me ... :(
[18:19] <murthy> BluesKaj: Plasma 5.3 beta works well for me
[18:19] <soee> there is P3 final i thnk :)
[18:20] <murthy> P3?
[18:20] <soee> 5.3 final
[18:20] <murthy> Is it packaged?
[18:21] <soee> i have it in updates today
[18:23] <murthy> I am using beta backports ppa, need to check again
[18:26] <soee> im not sure if all packages are there already but: http://wstaw.org/m/2015/04/23/snapshot1.png
[18:28] <murthy> This is from regular or backports?
[18:28] <BluesKaj> murthy, well that's the ppa i used , guess it depends on the the HW and drivers then
[18:29] <murthy> BluesKaj: You mean the nvidia?
[18:30] <BluesKaj> nvidia here, yes
[18:31] <murthy> BluesKaj: I am using the proprietary driver
[18:31] <BluesKaj> this from the beta backports ppa
[18:31] <BluesKaj> 340 here
[18:32] <murthy> Ya, beta ppa for me also. also there was a strange thing. There was an processor microcode update
[18:32] <BluesKaj> yes I saw that too
[18:32] <murthy> I installed the same 340, I think that was the recommended one.
[18:33] <BluesKaj> anyway I'm reinstalling the officail default image in about 5 mins
[18:33] <murthy> BluesKaj: soee says there is a 5.3 final, have you tried that?
[18:35] <BluesKaj> in the backports ppa final ppa or final packages in the beta ppa?
[18:37] <BluesKaj> well, Ill go take a look in the VT/TTY
[18:38] <murthy> soee: http://qa.kubuntu.co.uk/plasma-status/build_status_5.3.0_vivid.html
[18:38] <murthy> soee: some packaging are yet to be done
[19:00] <soee> murthy: the 5.3 packages have been installed from next-staging ppa, just noticed i have it enabled ;)
[19:02] <murthy> right
[19:04] <murthy> soee: do you use chrome?
[19:04] <soee> murthy: chromium
[19:06] <murthy> soee: ok. Chome doesnt show the download progress in 15.04 beta. is this happing in chromium?
[19:07] <murthy> I mean the download progress animated Icon
[19:08] <soee> at the bottom of browser ?
[19:08] <murthy> ya also at the dedicated page
[19:09] <soee> murthy: it shows icon ant teh downlaoded item description
[19:09] <soee> tried this http://sourceforge.net/projects/typo3/files/latest/download
[19:10] <murthy> then it must be chrome
[19:10] <soee> ovidiu-florin: we didnt make in time with new website?
[19:11] <murthy> ya i thought to ask the same question
[19:11] <murthy> the website is awesome
[19:23] <KDDA> anyone know of a good site to upload videos without signup?
[19:48] <Riddell> sgclark: approved by whom?
[19:48] <sgclark> canonical
[19:49] <sgclark> is that a problem?
[19:50] <Riddell> of course not
[19:50] * sitter tickles Riddell
[19:50] <sgclark> Riddell: ^
[19:50] * Riddell tips a bucket of cava over sitter
[19:51] <sitter> \o/
[19:52] <soee> high 5 to all after Vivid release :)
[19:52] <sitter> Riddell: mh, shouldn't you unpause integration again?
[19:52] <Riddell> sitter: oh good point!
[19:53] <sitter> Build Queue (312) quite the madness that is
[19:53] <Riddell> Finished: ABORTED
[19:54] <sgclark> lol
[19:54] <sgclark> I know the feeling...
[19:56] <Riddell> sitter: I've been requested to package kamoso and the bits for it actually should compile now so I guess I can do them tomorrow, is it easy to get into ci?
[19:58] <sitter> Riddell: create kubuntu_unstable and tell me about it
[19:58] <sitter> the jenkins job creation needs me to run a scripty since I haven't found time to automate this on a schedule yet
[20:01] <ahoneybun> awesome work everyone :-)
[20:02] <ahoneybun> Riddell: one of the projects at akademy will be to work on the artwork for Muon Discover don't you think?
[20:08] <soee> i had to remove my configuration .config .kde to get right click on desktop work
[20:17] <murthy> soee: the kubuntu desktop standard install meta package in 15.04 is this right ? kubuntu-desktop
[20:18] <soee> yes
[20:18] <soee> well it is meta package so it installes are files it defines
[20:18] <soee> *packages
[20:22] <Sput> I have a user reporting that Quassel freezes on startup on kubuntu 15.04... can anybody reproduce?
[20:25] <KDDA> Sput: quassel working fine for me
[20:25] <Sput> KDDA: thx
[20:25] <darthanubis> I'm on plasma 5.3beta
[20:26] <Sput> ah, you're here :)
[20:26] <darthanubis> :)
[20:26] <darthanubis> http://picpaste.com/snapshot6-HnYUdtkt.png
[20:27] <darthanubis> this still persists btw
[20:27] <darthanubis> those are my only two issues atm
[20:28] <Quintasan> praise the lords
[20:28] <Quintasan> 15.04 got very positive reviews here
[20:29] <Riddell> Quintasan: where'shere?
[20:29] <Quintasan> polish it media
[20:29] <Quintasan> http://www.dobreprogramy.pl/Kubuntu-15.04-nowy-Windows-o-takim-pulpicie-moze-tylko-pomarzyc,News,62584.html
[20:29] <ari-tczew> \o/
[20:29] <Quintasan> "New Windows can only dream about this kind of desktop"
[20:30] <Riddell> :)
[20:30] <Riddell> ari-tczew: tried it out yet?
[20:30] <ari-tczew> Riddell: only as a live session. I'll install fresh vivid next weekend.
[20:31] <Quintasan> Same here.
[20:31] <ari-tczew> :-)
[20:32] <Riddell> mparillo: I added Quintasan's link to an article for press we can do a wire post in a few days with all the ones we find http://wire.kubuntu.org/wp-admin/post.php?post=305&action=edit&message=10
[20:32] <Riddell> hi Etriaph!
[20:32] <Etriaph> Congratulations everyone!
[20:32] <Etriaph> Hi Riddell :D
[20:32] <Riddell> thanks :)
[20:32] <soee> http://news.softpedia.com/news/Kubuntu-15-04-Officially-Released-Based-on-Beautiful-Plasma-5-Desktop-479175.shtml
[20:32] <soee> http://news.softpedia.com/news/Kubuntu-15-04-Vivid-Vervet-Screenshot-Tour-479196.shtml
[20:33] <Etriaph> Do I need to do anything from my 15.04 beta 2 install to reach full release level?
[20:33] <ari-tczew> Etriaph: just upgrade packages
[20:33] <Riddell> apt full-upgrade
[20:34] <Etriaph> Excellent, thanks :D
[20:34] <Etriaph> Oh, nothing was to be done, even more good news :D
[20:35] <Etriaph> If I want to try to tackle a bug that's currently open for Dolphin, where would I grab the source from?
[20:35] <ahoneybun> apt-get source dolphin
[20:35] <ahoneybun> if it is the version in our repos
[20:36] <ahoneybun> Etriaph: ^'
[20:36] <Etriaph> I haven't been able to add places in dolphin and it's driving me a bit batty
[20:38] <Etriaph> ahoneybun: Thanks, got it now, maybe it'll jump out at me.
[20:38] <ahoneybun> np
[20:40] <Sput> darthanubis: I have no clue what would be causing this.
[20:41] <darthanubis> thanks for looking at it
[20:44] <Sput> I will include a fix for the QCoreApplication warning into 0.12.2 which whould be arriving very shortly. I don't think it would be causing your issue, but at least worth a try...
[20:44] <Sput> *should
[20:48] <Sput> darthanubis: you could play around with the --icontheme option; I have never seen the "Theme tree" output from your paste here
[20:48] <Sput> maybe there's something fishing there
[20:48] <Sput> fishy even
[20:49] <darthanubis> hmmm, just using default breeze dark theme
[20:55] <prth> \o/ Thanks a lot everyone for this awesome & must-have release!
[20:55] <prth> Also the accompanying video is really cool
[20:55] <soee> :)
[20:56] <Riddell> thanks prth :)
[21:10] * ronnoc echoes the senitments above ^ - well done!
[21:12] <soee> someone is fixing 5.3 build ?
[21:26] <Riddell> thanks ronnoc!
[21:40] <Etriaph> Dolphin is an interesting web.
[21:45] <tarator_> Hello, after upgrading from Kubuntu 14.10 to 15.04 my system is broken somehow. I think the upgrade didn't finish properly. The plasma desktop is black and there are no images shown. https://www.asap-soft.com/owncloud/index.php/apps/files/#//plasma.png
[21:46] <tarator_> https://www.asap-soft.com/owncloud/index.php/s/T5dKBdd9dNmk8IO
[21:46] <mparillo> Riddell: First, *Congrats* A big release. Second, I added http://news.softpedia.com/news/Kubuntu-15-04-Vivid-Vervet-Screenshot-Tour-479196.shtml to the draft wire post (though it looks like he just re-published his previous tour). Last, after http://changelogs.ubuntu.com/meta-release had vivid, the indicator and Muon Upgrader worked great wiithout hosts file magic.
[21:46] <tarator_> I think, there are some packages missing. can anybody help me out?
[21:48] <ejat> congrats to all kubuntu ninja !! :)
[21:50] <Riddell> mparillo: awooga
[21:50] <Riddell> tarator_: apt install kubuntu-desktop
[21:51] <tarator_> Riddell: tried that already... didn't help
[21:52] <tarator_> Riddell: before that the login-manager didn't even start
[21:53] <tarator_> Riddell: I think there are some packages missing. Is there a list of "default" packages, i could try to install?
[21:53] <Etriaph> tarator_: sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[21:54] <tarator_> Etriaph: already tried that (also sudo apt-get install --reinstall, and purge and then install... no success...
[21:55] <tarator_> which login-manager should I use lightdm, or sddm
[21:56] <Etriaph> I use sddm
[21:56] <tarator_> me too... but also sddm doesn't show any images. It's black and grey...
[21:57] <tarator_> similar to here: https://www.asap-soft.com/owncloud/index.php/s/T5dKBdd9dNmk8IO
[21:58] <tarator_> Is there no command to rerun the upgrade/installation process?
[21:58] <Etriaph> Try creating a new user and see if that changes anything.
[21:58] <soee> https://plus.google.com/110954078302330754910/posts/GeFychM9ee8 :)
[22:00] <tarator_> Etriaph: ok. tried that without success (which is not really surprising, since the login-screen shows the same symptoms...)
[22:00] <Etriaph> I didn't upgrade from 14.10 to 15.04, I reinstalled.
[22:00] <Etriaph> Also moved my ~/.kde/ out of scope to get init for potentially new configuration.
[22:00] <tarator_> reinstall is not an option on an production pc....
[22:01] <tarator_> however... since this is not a user-specific-problem moving .kde wouldn't help.
[22:01] <Etriaph> I'm mentioning how I made the move.
[22:02] <tarator_> Yes I know...
[22:02] <tarator_> I can't believe, that there's no package list, or reinstall command...
[22:03] <Etriaph> kubuntu-desktop is a meta package for all of the dependencies for a KDE desktop I believe.
[22:03] <Etriaph> Someone correct me if I'm wrong?
[22:04] <tarator_> but actually purging and reinstalling it doesn't really has an effect... only this one package is purged/installed....
[22:06] <KDDA> I think its a config issue
[22:07] <KDDA> maybe try renaming your home folder and letting Kubuntu rebuild it
[22:07] <Etriaph> KDDA: He said he created a new user to no avail, also the login display has an issue with images as well.
[22:08] <tarator_> KDDA: I tried it with a new created user. (new home-dir) without success
[22:08] <tarator_> KDDA: see here: https://www.asap-soft.com/owncloud/index.php/s/T5dKBdd9dNmk8IO
[22:08] <KDDA> can you boot a live cd succussfully?
[22:08] <Etriaph> KDDA: Good thought. :D
[22:09] <tarator_> you mean with kubuntu 15.04?
[22:09] <KDDA> yes
[22:09] <KDDA> can you boot into a working desktop
[22:09] <tarator_> I don't have one yet.... but I really don't think, that this is the problem...
[22:10] <tarator_> The upgrade didn't finish completetly...
[22:10] <tarator_> some packages are missing....
[22:11] <tarator_> I need a package-list of the default installation packages.
[22:11] <Etriaph> tarator_: If you did an upgrade that won't be possible; there's no way to know what was on your PC before you did the upgrade.
[22:12] <murthy> I think I have found a problem. The upgrade process seems to be stuck . Its because of dpkg ask for input from user whether to replace the modified rc settings file. but the gui is not shown and hence the process waits
[22:12] <Etriaph> Grab an ISO and try to boot from the live CD. If that works out well, then we move onto the next step.
[22:12] <murthy> I would recommend asking users to update via terminal
[22:13] <tarator_> ok...I gonna try a live cd... although I don't think, that this does help me...
[22:13] <tarator_> murthy: how can i reconfigure all the packages?
[22:13] <Etriaph> tarator_: Without being physically at your PC, the only thing we can do is trial and error.
[22:14] <murthy> dpkg --configure -a
[22:14] <murthy> thats with the sudo
[22:14] <tarator_> yes... but making a live-cd doesn't work out that quick (having no cd drive)
[22:15] <tarator_> (or empty usb stick :-)=
[22:16] <tarator_> murthy: tried that, but it finishes after 5 seconds...
[22:16] <tarator_> without doing anything...
[22:17] <tarator_> Etriaph: but there should be a list of the desktop-env-packages for a fresh install... i could try to install it...
[22:18] <murthy> tarator_: I think there is another parameter to reconfigure , i forgot, i will get it
[22:19] <murthy> tarator_: try sudo dpkg-reconfigure -a
[22:20] <tarator_> murthy: -a unknown option
[22:21] <tarator_> which logfile could i check?
[22:21] <Etriaph> dpkg-reconfigure doesn't require -a
[22:22] <Etriaph> sudo dpkg-reconfigure --force
[22:22] <tarator_> Etriaph: tried reconf for package sddm or kubuntu-desktop. but they finish after a few seconds and nothing happens...
[22:22] <tarator_> For which packages should I call it?
[22:23] <Etriaph> kubuntu-desktop to start.
[22:23] <tarator_> tried it, but didn't help... (only lasts 3 seconds)
[22:25] <Etriaph> I'm not sure what I would try next.
[22:25] <Etriaph> I didn't follow the upgrade path so I never ran into this issue.
[22:25] <Etriaph> Installed, chose not to format my /home partition, and backed up my old configuration from 14.10
[22:26] <Etriaph> You'll need someone who knows the packages better than I.
[22:26] <Etriaph> bbiab
[22:27] <tarator_> what's the kuiserver? (QDBusConnection: session D-Bus connection created before QCoreApplication...
[22:30] <valorie> tarator_: have you tried `sudo apt install -f`
[22:30] <valorie> which will force any packages needed to be installed
[22:30] <valorie> sometimes even `sudo apt update && sudo apt full-upgrade` again after that
[22:31] <valorie> one time I had to do that cycle a few times before all was well
[22:32] <tarator_> valorie: hmmm... nothing happens here...
[22:32] <valorie> occaisionally adding in `sudo apt-get autoclean && sudo apt-get autoremove` helps too
[22:32] <valorie> then try `systemctl restore sddm`
[22:33] <tarator_> valorie: nada... nothing will be installed/removed.... systemctl restart sddm ... problem persists...
[22:35] <valorie> :(
[22:35] <valorie> sounds like a graphic driver problem to me then
[22:35] <valorie> and I have no clue
[22:36] <valorie> please talk to the #kubuntu chan where user support happens
[22:36] <tarator_> meh... that's really a pitty... it really semms that only some graphics-manipulating libraries are missing... anything else works quite nice...
[22:36] <tarator_> valorie: came from there... :-(
[22:36] <valorie> sorry, I forgot we were in the -devel chan, where this is off-topic
[22:36] <valorie> if some libraries are missing, then install -f would have installed them
[22:37] <Etriaph> What graphics card vendor do you use tarator_?
[22:37] <tarator_> Intel hd4000
[22:37] <valorie> please lets move to #kubuntu
[22:38] <Etriaph> valorie: Oh, just saw that, sorry :D
[23:01] <murthy> Upgraded my primary install to15.04. Its the best OS i have ever used till now. My heartly thanks to team Kubuntu, team kde and all those who worked hard to make this possible.
[23:03] <Riddell> murthy++ :)
[23:07] <valorie> I agree, this is awesome
[23:07] <stoocot> Riddell: Hi. Which source you use for bluez5, that is required for beta 5.3 installation?
[23:07] <valorie> even on my little slow netbook, and the 5 year-old laptop
[23:08] <Riddell> stoocot: ah,for that you probably needs bluez from https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-desktop/+archive/ubuntu/transitions
[23:08] <Riddell> valorie++
[23:11] <stoocot> Unfortunately I tried this ppa and bluedevil depends on bluez-obexd that requires libical1 which is libical1a under Ubuntu
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2015-04-23-#ubuntu-br
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[00:18] <diego_> ola boa noite
[00:19] <diego_> ainda contuo com o problema para dar boot no linux
[00:19] <diego_> meu netbook nao reconhece nenhum sistema operacional para boot somente sistema android alguem tem ideia doque pode sr
[00:20] <xGrind> é tablet?
[00:21] <diego_> ele veio com win 8.1 normal sem ser mobile tem 16 de memora flash
[00:21] <diego_> acho que um tablete sim a tela sai do teclado
[00:21] <diego_> sera q é poriso
[00:22] <xGrind> não aquele tablet da microsoft nao? o surface
[00:23] <diego_> nao é um positivo hibrido zx3020
[00:23] <diego_> processador atom
[00:24] <diego_> o unico boot que reconhece é do android mais mesmo assim acho q ele nao foi feito pra funciona no android porq no android nao reconhece o toque da tela nem o teclado
[00:24] <astroo-> diego_ ola
[00:24] <diego_> ola
[00:25] <diego_> ja faz semanas que estou quero formatar esse tablete netbook seila
[00:26] <xGrind> diego_, pelo que li aqui, não é possivel usar outro sistema pq é feito sob medida
[00:26] <diego_> e vi que ninguem consegue formatar ele e instalar outro sistema operacional a nao ser o win8
[00:26] <xGrind> https://br.answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20150318071133AA5eBog
[00:27] <xGrind> http://forum.clubedohardware.com.br/topic/1105583-formatar-netbook-positivo-duo-zx3020/
[00:27] <xGrind> só é possivel usar o disco de recuperação
[00:27] <diego_> vo tenta devolver porque comprei pra trabalhar preciso de uma plataforma linux pra roda um servidor estavel
[00:35] <dk_millares> instala um pacote de apps linux, não resolve?
[00:35] <dk_millares> zshaolin diego_
[00:36] <dk_millares> não tenho android, não faço ideia como esse app é. Mas achei legal o conceito
[01:51] <leonardo> Ola tudo bem?
[01:51] <leonardo> Galera preciso de um ajuda
[01:51] <astroo-> ola tudo e tu?
[01:51] <Guest1285> to bem :D
[01:51] <astroo-> poe sempre a duvida toda
[01:52] <Guest1285> gente migrei do windows 8 ontem uma epoca usava ubuntu no meu pc, e quis voltar pro ubuntu, acho ele top demais, só que acho estranho
[01:52] <Guest1285> ele ta dando trava geral direto direto mesmo
[01:53] <Guest1285> o Ubuntu 11.10 é mais pesado que windows 8?
[01:54] <astroo-> o leve e lubuntu e xubuntu
[01:55] <Guest1285> serio que o ubuntu é mais pesado q windows? :(
[01:55] <astroo-> ubuntu e sempre mais leve que o windows
[01:55] <astroo-> tirando talvez o xp
[01:55] <Guest1285> pq sera que ele ta travando?
[01:55] <Guest1285> sou novo no linux n intendo muito bem
[01:55] <astroo-> que pc tens?
[01:56] <Guest1285> nao queria trocar to amando :(
[01:56] <Guest1285> um notebook acer processador AMD E-300 APU WITH RADEON HD GRAPHICS X2
[01:57] <Guest1285> 32 BITS
[01:57] <Guest1285> 1,7 GIB
[01:59] <astroo-> o chip video e complicado em principio
[02:00] <Guest1285> isso serio o que?
[02:01] <Guest1285> quando eu formatei ele, ele funcionou um monte ai desliguei ele fico assim
[02:02] <astroo-> tenta o livecd ubuntu 15 sem instalar para teste
[02:03] <Guest1285> usar so no cd?
[02:04] <astroo-> pen drive tambem
[02:04] <Guest1285> mais ai fica ruim né
[02:04] <Guest1285> tipo as informações
[02:04] <astroo-> para teste e perfeito
[02:04] <astroo-> so teste
[02:04] <astroo-> nao para permamente
[02:04] <Guest1285> sim mais queria ficar ficar com o ubuntu
[02:04] <astroo-> via usb3 ja e muito bom
[02:04] <Guest1285> :(
[02:05] <astroo-> primeiro ve se fica tudo ok
[02:05] <Guest1285> qual versao?
[02:05] <Guest1285> a q eu tenho em cd?
[02:05] <Guest1285> ja testei uma vez nao trava fica bem bom
[02:05] <Guest1285> bota pra intalacao ele instala depois do nada ele começa a travar
[02:05] <Guest1285> por um milagre ele n travo ainda
[02:07] <astroo-> a versao 15 sai esta semana
[02:07] <astroo-> a beta2 existe claro
[02:07] <Guest1285> juraaa vai sair o ubuntu 15?
[02:07] <Guest1285> deve ser mto top
[02:07] <astroo-> dei ontem a noticia aqui
[02:07] <Guest1285> sera q ele vai funcionar melhor q o 11.10?
[02:08] <astroo-> segundo alguns daqui gostam mais
[02:08] <Guest1285> aaa pode ser que foi corrigido isso de nao travar mais
[02:09] <Guest1285> quando q ele sera liberado no site da ubuntu?
[02:09] <astroo-> na noticia so dizia esta semana
[02:10] <Guest1285> aaaah :D muito obrigado pela informação
[02:10] <dk_millares> Guest1285: eu aconselho que use o xubuntu
[02:10] <dk_millares> to mexendo com um pc desse no momento, um samgun rv415
[02:10] <Guest1285> nao curti o xubuntu :(
[02:11] <dk_millares> ah meu
[02:11] <Guest1285> curto esse visual o xubuntu achei meio simples no visual
[02:11] <dk_millares> se sua maquina tiver o desempenho ruim igual essa que to mexendo aqui Guest1285, ta fudido
[02:11] <dk_millares> entendi, questao de gosto ne
[02:11] <Guest1285> simmm :D
[02:12] <Guest1285> na minha area que estudo o visual conta tudo haha
[02:12] <Guest1285> Valeu gente obrigado pela ajuda
[02:13] <dk_millares> blz
[02:13] <dk_millares> boa sorte
[02:13] <dk_millares> flw
[02:58] <Voyeur> Alguem em casa
[02:59] <astroo-> ciao pessoal
[03:53] <Voyeur> @@
[04:13] <dk_millares> hiho
[04:24] <Gleidson> ola não consigo instalar o Ubuntu no meu note
[04:24] <Gleidson> Alguem pode me ajudar?
[04:27] <dk_millares> tentaremos
[04:27] <dk_millares> ele pelo menos da boot na midia de instalação?
[05:09] <rxom> 8-0
[05:22] <QuimicaDoMal> need help
[05:23] <QuimicaDoMal> alguem
[05:26] <neto> alguem on
[05:39] <Voyeur> @@
[12:31] <Onze> salve salve
[12:31] <Onze> bom dia pessoal
[12:32] <Onze> bom, primeiramente peço desculpas pela pretenção de entrar aqui pra sanar uma duvida
[12:32] <Onze> em segundo lugar, CARAI MIRC AINDA TA DE PÉ?!
[12:32] <Onze> enfim, desde já agradeço quem possa me sanar uma duvida...
[12:33] <Onze> estou instalando e configurando o linux num desktop pela primeira vez
[12:33] <Onze> vou usar essa maquina como host para alguns sites
[12:33] <Onze> qual o sistema de arquivos vcs me aconselham?
[12:33] <Onze> li muita coisa e acabei ficando mais confuso
[12:34] <Onze> criei 3 partições, as 3 primarias
[12:34] <Onze> uma root, pro ubuntu
[12:34] <Onze> uma home pra arquivos
[12:34] <Onze> e uma swap
[12:35] <Onze> uso ext4 pras 3 partições?
[13:21] <Onze> meu... n sei o q eu to fazendo de errado
[13:21] <Onze> o linux instala, mas n inicia
[13:21] <Onze> =(
[13:21] <Onze> help anyone?
[13:28] <Voyeur> hello guys
[15:32] <Loser> como entrar no usuario normal
[15:46] <Super_Ape> oi
[16:49] <Renato_> olá
[16:49] <Renato_> boa tarde
[16:49] <Guest84732> como faço para instalar o ubuntu ?
[18:47] <Guest89759> como eu troco a do terminal
[18:47] <Guest89759> *cor
[18:48] <Guest89759> Como troca a cor do Terminal ?
[18:48] <Guest89759> @@
[18:52] <Guest89759> ...
[18:52] <Guest89759> ...
[18:56] <Guest89759> ...
[19:00] <Elfon> Guest89759: vai no menu da janea
[19:01] <Elfon> costuma ter opções...pelo menos é assim no konsole
[19:01] <Guest89759> kkkkkk
[19:01] <Guest89759> claro q nao, isso ai eh edital no bash
[19:02] <Guest89759> *editavel
[19:02] <Elfon> Guest89759: vc tá falando das cores do terminal? cor do texto, cor de fundo, etc?
[19:03] <Elfon> se não.....google.com
[19:03] <Guest89759> Cor das letras ne....
[19:03] <Elfon> no konsole é barbada
[19:20] <Guest89759> Elfon: eh no .bashrc
[19:26] <voyeur> @@
[21:17] <astroo-> ola pessoal
[21:17] <astroo-> ola pessoal
[22:42] <Edagr> e
[22:42] <Edagr> e ai
[22:42] <Edagr> te, alguem?
[22:42] <astroo-> ola eu sempre
[22:42] <Edagr> cara
[22:42] <Edagr> meu pc n ta dando boot pelo cd
[22:42] <Edagr> pq cara pq
[22:43] <Edagr> sdds 15.04
[22:43] <astroo-> diz que pc tens e erro da
[22:44] <Edagr> nem , eu arrumei direitinho e pa, dai ele entra normal
[22:46] <astroo-> deve ser alguma proteçao
[22:46] <Edagr> vou tentar reiniciar a bios
[22:46] <Edagr> ja volto
[22:49] <astroo-> ok
[23:02] <Edgar_> a sei la
[23:03] <astroo-> so com o ubuntu da mal?
[23:03] <Edgar_> não, com tds
[23:04] <Edgar_> nenhum ta indo
[23:04] <Edgar_> e coloco, frist boot cd rom ...
[23:04] <astroo-> alguma proteçao
[23:04] <astroo-> que marca e o pc?
[23:05] <Edgar_> del
[23:05] <Edgar_> intel*
[23:06] <astroo-> nao sei se essa marca tem 1 bom forum de apoio
[23:07] <Edgar_> deixa ver um bangui aq, ja volto
[23:40] <Edgar> reiniciei a bois mas nem assim
[23:40] <Edgar> tipo, só vai o cd do ubuntu q eu to usando o resto n funciona
[23:41] <Edgar> tenho uns 4 cds diferente kkk
[23:42] <astroo-> modernices e que da
[23:42] <astroo-> e so complicar a por o linux
[23:43] <Edgar> a mas a minha versão é 13.04 n da nem pra atualizar
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2024-05-13T22:11:17.026326
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2015-04-23-#ubuntu-locoteams
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[00:31] <te> alguma noticiasobrea nova versaodo ubundoapartir dequando estara disponivel?
[04:37] <Kilos> hi nhaines how are you?
[04:37] <Kilos> you been very quiet
[04:38] <Kilos> greetings everyone else that is up
[04:41] <Kilos> hi alex6095
[04:41] <Kilos> bye then
[06:57] <dholbach> good morning
[06:57] <Kilos> morning dholbach
[06:58] <dholbach> hi Kilos
[07:00] <Kilos> does anyone here know rejerson69 he is in #ubuntu-africa but im not sure what language he uses so cant get through to him
[07:09] <dholbach> I couldn't find him in the launchpad search: https://launchpad.net/people/?name=rejerson69&searchfor=all
[07:09] <dholbach> so sorry, no idea
[07:09] <Kilos> lol
[07:10] <Kilos> ill just get my greeting translated to all the african languages and try them one at a time
[07:11] <dholbach> haha, good luck with that :)
[07:11] <Kilos> ty
[13:25] <Dev_> Hi
[13:25] <Dev_> I have installed ubuntu 14.04 but everything getting crash like eclipse juno, chrome also not working
[13:25] <Dev_> any solution for that
[13:25] <Kilos> Dev_ have you dont update and upgrade?
[13:26] <belkinsa> Please ask in #ubuntu, it's out support channel. This channel is for LoCo support only.
[13:26] <Dev_> yes upgraded
[13:27] <Dev_> Kilos, Do you have any idea ?
[13:28] <belkinsa> Dev_, you need to /join #ubuntu, we have people there that can help you with your problem with Ubuntu. This channel is only for LoCo support,
[13:44] <Kilos> hi PabloRubianes
[13:45] <PabloRubianes> hi Kilos
[13:45] <PabloRubianes> who are you?
[13:45] <Kilos> im good ty and you?
[13:45] <Kilos> oh who
[13:45] <belkinsa> lol
[13:45] <PabloRubianes> fine, it's football match day at office
[13:45] <Kilos> belkinsa tell him who i am please
[13:45] <PabloRubianes> thursday rocks!
[13:46] <Kilos> hehe
[13:46] <belkinsa> No, Kilos, you know yourself more than I do!
[13:46] <Kilos> PabloRubianes do you really want to know who i am?
[13:47] <Kilos> ive been greeting you for a month
[13:47] <PabloRubianes> the happy greeter?
[13:47] <PabloRubianes> hahah
[13:47] <Kilos> im the new kid on the block
[13:47] <PabloRubianes> it's great to have new people arround
[13:48] <Kilos> i like greeting peeps and making new friends
[13:48] <PabloRubianes> that's the old ubuntu spirit
[13:48] <Kilos> but this is me https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kilos
[13:50] <Kilos> if we dont greet each other then we are just nicks in a channel
[13:50] <PabloRubianes> ohhh cool there's not much people your age arround
[13:50] <belkinsa> Very true, Kilos.
[13:51] <PabloRubianes> they tend to be afraid of changing OS
[13:51] <belkinsa> Most folks are afaird of change.
[13:51] <PabloRubianes> yeap
[13:51] <Kilos> i look everywhere to get away from virii and malware as i was new to pcs
[13:52] <Kilos> luckily a friend said try ubuntu
[13:52] <Kilos> since then ive never looked back
[13:52] <elacheche> Yeah luckily :D
[13:53] <belkinsa> I'm thankful for Lifehacker.com for helping with the switch
[13:53] <Kilos> i though ms was the computer world at the time
[13:54] <Kilos> what a pleasant surprise to here about linux
[13:54] <Kilos> hear
[13:54] <elacheche> Believe it or not, Windows Vista introduced me to Ubuntu 7.04 :D
[13:54] <PabloRubianes> elacheche:windows vista introduce lots of people :P
[13:56] <elacheche> PabloRubianes, I forget to tell you that it was before m$ releases it and without using it :D x) After 2 years vista was why I switched officially to Ubuntu :D
[13:57] <PabloRubianes> hehe
[13:57] <Kilos> lol i didnt get past xp even
[14:08] <PabloRubianes> ohh and happy release day! hehe
[14:25] <PabloRubianes> belkinsa: did you just report a but on LPT?
[14:25] <belkinsa> Yes, why?
[14:25] <PabloRubianes> you already report that
[14:26] <PabloRubianes> https://bugs.launchpad.net/loco-team-portal/+bug/1320270
[14:26] <PabloRubianes> the fix is pending to approve
[14:26] <belkinsa> Oh, I forgot that I reported it.
[14:26] <Kilos> lol yay not only old peeps forget
[14:27] <PabloRubianes> belkinsa:I mark it as duplicated
[14:27] <belkinsa> Thanks, I was about to do it.
[14:27] <PabloRubianes> hope I can work with daker to fix that soon
[14:28] <daker> PabloRubianes: hi, sorry for the radio silence
[14:28] <PabloRubianes> daker: don't worry
[14:28] <PabloRubianes> work is first ;-)
[14:29] <PabloRubianes> daker: I made a comment on the merge request that needs to be approved
[14:29] <PabloRubianes> i can't change the status on that :S
[14:32] <daker> PabloRubianes: i just asked IS again
[14:33] <PabloRubianes> great
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2015-04-23-#ubuntu-desktop
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[08:03] <pitti> Good morning
[08:17] <larsu> morning!
[08:20] <seb128> hey
[08:23] <willcooke> WHAT
[08:23] <Laney> GUTEN TAG
[08:24] <larsu> francooke: bonjour
[08:29] * pitti waves to the desktoppers
[08:29] * Sweet5hark waves back
[08:29] <pitti> monkey day!
[08:29] * FJKong waves back
[08:29] <JupiterWhistles> desrt, alternative route: https://www.google.co.uk/maps/dir/Thistle+Hyde+Park+Hotel,+London/51.506593,-0.0995504/@51.50591,-0.1345683,14z/data=!4m10!4m9!1m5!1m1!1s0x487605538bac3303:0x93ccf9894e3ff2fe!2m2!1d-0.180839!2d51.511112!1m0!3e3!5i1
[08:30] <Sweet5hark> pitti: right, how did it happen that this release was named after me?
[08:31] <pitti> Sweet5hark: err - wut?
[08:32] <Sweet5hark> pitti: I just feel quite monkeyish often.
[08:33] <pitti> I've monkey-patched ubiquity all week :)
[08:33] <Sweet5hark> hrhr
[08:55] <desrt> willcooke: liked your old name better :)
[08:56] <seb128> hey pitti!
[10:00] <Sweet5hark> larsu, desrt: http://pcottle.github.io/learnGitBranching/
[10:53] * willcooke -> Blue Fun
[10:53] <willcooke> *Fin
[10:53] <willcooke> Blue fun is something very different
[11:55] <willcooke> j'ai sommes arrivés
[15:18] <pitti> Laney: *poke*
[16:34] <willcooke> quittin' time. Enjoy 15.04
[16:40] * qengho upgrades to 15.10.
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2015-04-23-#xubuntu-devel
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[00:56] <jjfrv8> dpkg -l xscreensaver
[00:56] <jjfrv8> whoops, did it again
[00:57] <jjfrv8> I can be excused though, I think I broke my main desktop after a clean install
[00:58] <jjfrv8> not sure what's going on yet but after about six or seven minutes, it hangs, monitors go blank as if in suspend mode, but machine is just hung, not suspended.
[01:03] <jjfrv8> also, but not as serious, after a reboot, I get a completely blank, white screen and I have to click the mouse to get the login prompt.
[01:10] <jjfrv8> so, elfy, you can consider this a 64-bit fail on hardware (jjf-desk-main). The thing won't stay up long enough for me to file a bug and put it on the tracker.
[01:11] <jjfrv8> that's it for tonight. tomorrow... restore from backup :(
[02:04] <Unit193> Extras stats: http://paste.openstack.org/show/uNgVgE4ojXMsuEqyfBkz/
[05:18] <dkessel> elfy: could you please extend my xubuntu-qa membership?
[06:12] <ochosi> happy release day everyone!
[06:12] <ochosi> i'll be out until the afternoon
[06:13] <Unit193> yey! :P
[06:13] <ochosi> then i can help with release notes etc
[06:14] <ochosi> but feel free to push those things ahead even without me
[06:17] <Unit193> bluesabre: Right, so that last xfpm you sponsored lost the lxpanel plugin.
[06:33] <astraljava> Happy release day, peeps! How are we with the images? I was busy (and tired) yesterday rehearsing and celebrating, so didn't check the status. :)
[06:37] <Unit193> bluesabre: Looking now (with Lubuntu people), looks like changed deps. :D
[07:00] <Unit193> Oh right, you might want the log: https://sigma.unit193.net/source/xfce4-power-manager_1.4.3-0ubuntu2_i386.build
[07:03] <Unit193> jjfrv8: I'm expired too.
[07:06] <elfy> everyone will the week after release
[07:07] <elfy> if you mean to ping dkessel instead of jjfrv8 :p
[07:13] <Unit193> Bah, yeah.
[08:34] <elfy> knome: you going to allude to the image/vbox issue - or shall I do that on the wiki release note?
[08:37] <Luyin> morning
[08:37] <elfy> mornign Luyin
[08:52] <slickymasterWork> elfy, my membership in xubuntu-qa team is due to expire. Will I have a chance on another go?
[09:28] <knome> elfy, not sure, feel free to put it in the wiki and i'll ask around if we want to duplicate it on the announcement
[10:09] <bluesabre> Unit193: dang
[10:12] <bluesabre> Unit193: I think the system tray is back in 1.4.3, they can enable that as a last second fix
[10:13] <bluesabre> oh, nvm, that looks like its in 1.4.4
[10:15] <bluesabre> did the lxpanel plugin break in 1.4.3, or did something change in the newer lxpanel code?
[10:15] <bluesabre> curious
[10:52] <zequence> elfy: I see you did a new build yesterday. Anything useful for us on that one?
[10:53] <zequence> I'm considering to mark ours ready, but just want to check if you might know of a bug that we don't
[10:57] <zequence> Or, if anyone else can tell me :)
[11:09] <elfy> knome: ok
[11:10] <elfy> zequence: the vbox restart issue is about all that's nasty afaik
[11:15] <bluesabre> knome: put together some vivid screenshots if you want them https://www.dropbox.com/s/3e8sbe9zzq8t442/vivid.tar.gz?dl=0
[11:17] <elfy> back from work - doing the wiki release note
[11:17] <elfy> looking like mid-afternoon releaseish
[11:21] <bluesabre> cool
[11:27] <bluesabre> need to go get ready for work now, bbl
[11:27] <bluesabre> have fun with the release :)
[11:53] <elfy> well for better or worse, we'll not be getting many new tracker reports I guess
[12:03] <astraljava> elfy: Are we in need of any?
[12:05] <astraljava> I could head home and work a couple of hours from there, and run a test or two if that's the case.
[12:09] <elfy> astraljava: no - all's cool and as good as it'll get ::)
[12:09] <elfy> thanks for offering though :)
[12:09] <astraljava> Ok, just checking. :)
[12:11] <elfy> :)
[12:35] <knome> elfy, mid-afternoon UTC?
[12:36] <elfy> believe so
[12:36] <knome> heh
[12:36] <knome> guess i'd better do something before the in-laws crash in here then
[12:36] <elfy> [10:36] <infinity> flexiondotorg: Aiming for mid-afternoon London time, ish.
[12:37] <knome> what ever "mid-afternoon" means
[12:37] <elfy> not yet :D
[12:37] <knome> yeah..
[12:38] <elfy> built what I can for the wiki note now
[12:38] <knome> elfy, did you pick up the new app versions from the pad already?
[12:38] <knome> yeah you did
[12:39] <knome> so which of the bugs would you "highlight" on the announcement?
[12:39] <elfy> I don't know of anything earth shattering
[12:39] <knome> i would +1 the notes plugin
[12:39] <elfy> I made a note re vbox
[12:40] <elfy> that perhaps
[12:40] <knome> mhm
[12:40] <elfy> though I've only seen one random report of it from some guy :D
[12:40] <knome> hah
[12:40] <elfy> :)
[12:40] <knome> was it ochosi or bluesabre who said "just running the notes plugin" would fix it
[12:40] <knome> implying they know that it can happen
[12:41] <knome> (it didn't help though)
[12:41] <elfy> right
[12:44] <knome> did we get rid of the shutdown/boot problem?
[12:44] <knome> not the livesession, the after-install
[12:45] <knome> elfy, and if you can proofread the announcement part on the pad, great
[12:45] <knome> that should be pretty good now from my side
[12:45] <elfy> look now
[12:45] <knome> yeh, i notice :)
[12:46] <elfy> yep - ack that
[12:46] <knome> ok, i'll move to web soon so it's i publishable state
[12:46] <elfy> knome: yea - that was the beta bug for a similar thing
[12:47] <knome> mhm
[12:47] <knome> because the livesession thing isn't worth pulling to announcement
[12:47] <elfy> nope
[12:48] <elfy> it's on the release notes with a note too
[12:48] <knome> i edited the wiki formatting and added a note about the notes plugin
[12:53] <knome> elfy, http://xubuntu.org/?p=3106&preview=true
[12:53] <knome> elfy, please preview
[12:53] <knome> next the download links
[12:53] * knome sighs
[12:54] <elfy> knome: yep - looks fine
[12:54] <knome> ta
[12:55] <elfy> certainly works better with the site being 'chatty' and the 'wiki' less chatty just the detail
[12:56] <knome> yes
[12:56] <knome> that's how i've visioned it
[12:57] <knome> http://temp.knome.fi/xubuntu/1504-download.txt
[12:57] <knome> that's the COMPLETE download page code
[12:58] <knome> uhm, except it fails with unicode :)
[13:00] <knome> ok, fixed that..
[13:00] <knome> so you just need to copy that *all* to the text part
[13:01] <elfy> ok - so if you're away at release - I can publish and edit the download page with that?
[13:01] <knome> yeah
[13:01] <elfy> cool
[13:01] <elfy> thanks :)
[13:02] <knome> in-laws are here any minute
[13:02] <elfy> yep
[13:02] <elfy> I'll be about so all bases covered :)
[13:04] <knome> yep, ta
[13:04] <knome> i'll be checking the situation out now and then if i've failed with something ;)
[13:04] <elfy> :)
[14:53] <ochosi> ok, back
[14:53] <ochosi> so where do we stand?
[14:55] <drc> Just checked cdimage (for xubuntu), and it looks like the release is there.
[14:56] <drc> and the torrent is seeded.
[14:56] <ObrienDave> torrents are up
[15:01] <elfy> ochosi: notes and page are ready, download page will need updating - just waiting on infinity now
[15:02] <ochosi> cool!
[15:04] <ochosi> i'm wondering whether should mention the visual glitch with indicator-power
[15:04] <ochosi> i still haven't had time to figure that one out
[15:04] <ochosi> or to be more exact: haven't been able to reproduce it
[15:04] <drc> glitch?
[15:04] <ochosi> so for upgraders from 14.04, that'd be relevant (although it's only a small issue)
[15:05] <ochosi> drc: well the dark icon
[15:05] <elfy> bug 1446605 ?
[15:05] <elfy> if so - mentioned on the wiki release note
[15:07] <ochosi> oh alright, hadn't looked there yet
[15:07] <ochosi> thanks
[15:10] * drc wonders if it's connected to the dark/darker/darkest icons sets? (don't have 15.04 loaded to test)
[15:14] <elfy> ochosi: did you look at the draft announcement?
[15:25] <elfy> publishing
[15:27] <elfy> get xubuntu page updated
[15:32] <ochosi> elfy: i did
[15:32] <elfy> front page widget updated
[15:33] <elfy> hating html taggy things I'll leave the footer 1 widget alone :)
[15:33] <elfy> just needs social media thing done now I think
[15:33] <ochosi> great!
[15:39] <elfy> ochosi: you'd better double check though :)
[16:06] <knome> elfy, updated footer
[16:07] <knome> tweeted too
[16:07] <knome> bbl ->
[16:19] <pleia2> posted to fb and g+
[16:23] <elfy> thanks knome and pleia2 :)
[16:35] <nerdistmonk> Has canonical lost their minds? I heard through the phoronix grape vine that they are dropping .deb and going to snappy? any clarification on this whopper?
[16:37] <holstein> i doubt upstream is dropping .deb anytime soon
[16:37] <holstein> there is a snappy core project..
[16:37] <holstein> http://developer.ubuntu.com/en/snappy/
[16:38] <nerdistmonk> Ubuntu's Desktop-Next moving to snappy it says
[16:38] <nerdistmonk> thats on phoronix
[16:38] <holstein> i would probably /join and ubuntu dev community
[16:38] <elfy> nerdistmonk: instead of asking in here - why not ask in #ubuntu-devel
[16:38] <nerdistmonk> did i miss something here? is xubuntu not taking in any changes ubuntu makes to their core OS now?
[16:38] <holstein> or the ubuntu mailing lists.. i bet the dev list there would have archives relevant that one could publically search
[16:39] <holstein> nerdistmonk: debs are in 15.04
[16:39] <elfy> nerdistmonk: we've not heard anything - and we'd ask in an Ubuntu channel rather than phoronix
[16:39] <nerdistmonk> and im trying to inform you they plan on changing that in 15.10
[16:39] <holstein> debs are in debian.. i think there is a misunderstanding, or assumption somewhere.. but, im sure you can find facts and details upstream
[16:40] <nerdistmonk> Xubuntu is ubuntu is it not? or did you guys jump ship and xubuntu is its own unique thing seperate from canonical?
[16:40] <holstein> correct.. xubuntu is an official flavor.. but, this is not the canonical community
[16:42] <nerdistmonk> i dont care about ubuntu the distro, i care about the OS im currently planted on (xubuntu) suddenly being incompatible with debian packages. Sorry if i was having trouble relaying this concern to you. if its a ubuntu only issue, then who cares, as long as it does not spread to xubuntu which is what im worried about.
[16:42] <elfy> nerdistmonk: also - Ubuntu-Next is not Ubuntu
[16:42] <holstein> yeah, they are just different projects..
[16:42] <nerdistmonk> ok then
[16:42] <nerdistmonk> panic /off
[16:42] <holstein> panic?
[16:42] <holstein> one can always make ones own buntu.. no need for panic.. its *all* open
[16:43] <nerdistmonk> ha right.
[16:43] <davmor2> nerdistmonk: if you want to know more about snappy and the plans moving forward the best place is #snappy but there are a lot of things to work out for a snappy desktop and all the flavours will be taken into account if it moves that way
[16:44] <nerdistmonk> <<doesn't care about snappy as long as it stays far, far away from xubuntu devel install.
[16:44] <elfy> thanks davmor2
[16:44] <holstein> nerdistmonk: sure.. its just that, there is no guarantee of that.. upstream debian could go with something that would trickle down, for example
[16:45] <nerdistmonk> debian has zero plans to dump .deb
[16:45] <nerdistmonk> this is _all_ canonical
[16:45] <nerdistmonk> but as you all said, its only on their side project
[16:45] <holstein> nerdistmonk: i never said they did.. *but* there are many parts of the system to "panic" about
[16:45] <drc> I don't have to put up with this crap
[16:45] <elfy> nerdistmonk: really - please go and find out the reality
[16:46] <holstein> there is also the offtopic channel.. more appropriate for dicussion
[16:46] <holstein> !ot
[16:53] <drc> I apologize...sorry
[16:53] <elfy> :)
[16:54] <drc> I plead senility (get off my lawn!)
[16:56] <drc> The 15.04 release looks pretty good...DL was fast (torrent), ISO burn to USB was good, USB boot was good, install was good (restart button worked, but didn't ask me to remove media...is it still supposed to?).
[16:57] <elfy> it should
[16:57] <elfy> it asked me last time I checked hardware
[16:58] <drc> The button has worked (but w/o asking) for me since at least B2.
[16:58] <elfy> right
[16:58] <elfy> biab
[18:46] <Unit193> bluesabre: Right, so how it works. The lxpanel.pc file declared a dep on libmenu-cache-dev but 'lxpanel' doesn't declare this, so xfpm had to. With lxpanel 0.7.1 this changed to libfm-dev and we didn't follow this (not really our fault, IMO) However, adding that and rebuilding gives a ftbfs (linked) in the xfpm lxpanel plugin.
[19:01] <Unit193> knome: You want the honors in #x or do I?
[19:03] <Unit193> !magnets
[19:03] <Unit193> knome: xubuntu-15.04-desktop-i386.iso: magnet:?xt=urn:btih:8bc50171645e518b7008248336c2dec18d266490&tr=http://torrent.ubuntu.com:6969/announce - xubuntu-15.04-desktop-amd64.iso: magnet:?xt=urn:btih:a8db93f41d8d3fc0951302d5606d819c9f59e1d0&tr=http://torrent.ubuntu.com:6969/announce
[19:28] <knome> Unit193, feel free to..
[19:31] <knome> !magnets-15.04
[19:31] <knome> hmm.
[19:32] <knome> !magnets-15.04
[19:32] <knome> !magnets
[19:32] <knome> !magnets-15.04
[19:32] <Unit193> !+magnets-15.04
magnets-#xubuntu
[19:32] <knome> i thought i changed it.
[19:33] <Unit193> If you do it that way, !magnets will need updated too.
[19:33] <knome> no, that's correct
[19:33] <knome> i want to change the alias, but ubottu won't let me
[19:34] <knome> 22:34 knome: !no, magnets-15.04-#xubuntu-devel is <alias> magnets-15.04-#xubuntu
[19:34] <knome> 22:34 ubottu: You are editing an alias. Please repeat the edit command within the next 10 seconds to confirm
[19:34] <knome> then i repeat
[19:34] <knome> and it doesn't change
[19:34] <Unit193> Off top -ops or -irc.
[19:34] <knome> i've hit this before, there was some workaround
[19:36] <knome> !magnets-15.04
[19:36] <knome> there we go
[19:37] <knome> edit to <reply> then edit back to <alias>
[19:37] <knome> stupid bot
[19:39] <Unit193> !magnets
[19:39] <Unit193> knome: Going to update that then to .2?
[19:40] <knome> gimme the magnet links
[19:40] <knome> or are they the same?
[19:42] <knome> bug 1447793
[19:43] <knome> bug 1309533
[19:43] <genii> Interesting
[19:43] <Unit193> How about the fact that ubottu uses sqlite0?
[19:43] <Unit193> sqlite1 rather.
[19:44] <knome> Unit193, you can file a bug for that yourself :P
[19:44] <Unit193> Needs people with more free time. :/
[19:45] <Unit193> knome: Don't want to make !magnets current?
[19:45] <Unit193> !torrents
[19:45] <Unit193> (Don't correct that, it's auto updating.)
[19:45] <Unit193> !+torrents
torrents-#xubuntu
[19:46] <Unit193> !+torrents-#xubuntu
Xubuntu $curStable ($curStableNum) torrents can be downloaded from http://torrent.ubuntu.com/xubuntu/releases/$curStableLower/release/desktop/xubuntu-$curStableNum-desktop-i386.iso.torrent and http://torrent.ubuntu.com/xubuntu/releases/$curStableLower/release/desktop/xubuntu-$curStableNum-desktop-amd64.iso.torrent
[19:46] <knome> Unit193, LTS is the preferred
[19:46] <Unit193> ./!magnets-lts ?
[19:46] <knome> so maybe torrents should link to LTS too
[19:46] <Unit193> Can't due to point releases.
[19:46] <knome> aha
[19:46] <knome> well, can
[19:46] <knome> i would prefer !magnets and !torrents for latest LTS
[19:47] <knome> but i guess it doesn't matter TOO much
[19:47] <knome> but just proves you should have factoid editing rights
[19:48] <Unit193> xubuntu-14.04.2-desktop-i386.iso.torrent
[19:48] <Unit193> magnet:?xt=urn:btih:a1778a5ee0f1a563e8fdfc4c79ad4f17a82a396f&tr=http://torrent.ubuntu.com:6969/announce
[19:48] <Unit193> unit193@Sigma:~/Torrents$ getmagnet xubuntu-14.04.2-desktop-amd64.iso.torrent
[19:48] <Unit193> magnet:?xt=urn:btih:4a211f9547243f81ca7689539fdd4ccb0875e22e&tr=http://torrent.ubuntu.com:6969/announce
[19:48] <Unit193> knome: Not when I can just have you and IdleOne do it! ;)
[19:50] <knome> Unit193, there you go! :D
[19:50] <Unit193> :(
[19:50] <knome> so whatever you do, tell me what is is
[19:50] <knome> *it
[19:51] <knome> i'm fine with !torrents and !torrents-lts too i guess
[19:51] <knome> but then plz drop -15.04 :P
[19:51] <knome> (or in any case really, and make it generic)
[19:51] <Unit193> I'd really prefer it, but of course you're lead. I like more generic too, else you get new factoid for every release. :P
[20:20] <Unit193> So xMir images up, -core to follow.
[20:37] <Unit193> knome: I remembered, done.
[20:37] <knome> what did you remember?
[20:37] <Unit193> !magnets
[20:37] <Unit193> !magnets-lts
[20:37] <knome> ok, nice
[20:38] <knome> gah.
[21:52] <Unit193> cyphermox: Bit late now, sure. But did anyone test that eject fix in UEFI?
[21:52] <cyphermox> Unit193: I don't know, can't remember if I did
[21:52] <cyphermox> it certainly would be broken in vbox
[21:52] <cyphermox> I'm not sure if UEFI would really impact the ejection
[21:54] <Unit193> qemu-system-x86_64 -enable-kvm -bios '/usr/share/ovmf/OVMF.fd' -boot d -m 512 -cdrom 'xubuntu-core-15.04-amd64.iso' -localtime -hda fat:/home/unit193/hda/ (UEFI locked down mode) didn't work on Enter to power off the system, but BIOS mode seems to work fine. Granted, UEFI gets xubuntu-logo and BIOS gets xubuntu-text.
[21:55] <Unit193> cyphermox: Anywho, just noted, not really important I'd think. Thanks.
[21:56] <cyphermox> the difference in which splash you get is not UEFI but the graphics driver.
[21:58] <Unit193> Only difference in command is dropping -bios '/usr/share/ovmf/OVMF.fd' so I just called it that for ease.
[21:58] <cyphermox> Unit193: did you use Try or Install?
[21:58] <Unit193> Try.
[21:58] <cyphermox> k
[21:58] <cyphermox> well, trying now :)
[21:58] <Unit193> cyphermox: From syslinux screen.
[21:58] <cyphermox> and did you go restart or shutdown?
[21:59] <Unit193> Shutdown (why did I type 'shower'??)
[22:00] <cyphermox> I thought pitti had made some last minute changes to ubiquity to fix this
[22:01] * cyphermox sighs
[22:01] <Unit193> cyphermox: Sorry. Anywho, it's after the release, so too late.
[22:02] <cyphermox> well, no, it's not too late for 15.10
[22:03] <Unit193> Right, anywho. For anyone interested the "community respin", Xubuntu Core ISOs, torrents, zsync, etc. are: https://unit193.net/xubuntu/ for 32/64 supporting locked down UEFI too.
[22:03] <Unit193> knome: ----^ :P
[22:03] <Unit193> knome: I could get you magnets too. :D
[22:04] <knome> what?
[22:04] <knome> :P
[22:05] <cyphermox> Unit193: locked down UEFI?
[22:06] <cyphermox> Unit193: heh, what do you know, I also can't shutdown properly in UEFI while it works on BIOS
[22:06] <cyphermox> might be a ovmf issue though
[22:06] <cyphermox> and now I need to accompany my wife to do some shopping, back later.
[22:06] <Unit193> cyphermox: Nothing special. UEFI systems that aren't unlocked, using the MS key, etc.
[22:07] <Unit193> cyphermox: I'm not likely using the same version of ovmf though. Heh, have "fun"
[22:07] <Unit193> Locked down = secure boot.
[22:07] <cyphermox> I don't mind it ;)
[22:07] * Unit193 shrugs.
[22:11] <Unit193> knome: Soooo, what do you want me to do with them now anywho? ;P
[22:12] <knome> with core ISOs?
[22:12] <Unit193> Yea.
[22:12] <knome> dunno
[22:13] <slickymaster> wait until I finish to download https://unit193.net/xubuntu/xubuntu-core-15.04-i386.iso Unit193
[22:13] <Unit193> slickymaster: Did a quick smoketest, everything should be good (didn't install it, but meh.)
[22:14] <slickymaster> I will tomorrow Unit193
[22:14] <slickymaster> I'll let you know then what it went
[22:14] <slickymaster> s/what/how
[22:14] <Unit193> Heh, alrighty-o!
[22:14] <Unit193> (It's been tested before, just not this spin.)
[22:15] <slickymaster> yeah, I tested one before
[22:15] <Unit193> Got the mir images up too, but those are hardly worthwhile now, IMO.
[22:35] <ochosi> (late) evening all
[22:35] <slickymaster> hey ochosi
[22:36] <Unit193> Howdy, ochosi.
[22:39] <ochosi> hmm, so snappy packages
[22:41] <ochosi> we seem to have a problem with elementary xfce darkest not having a theme cache
[22:41] <ochosi> http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-AyY4Uy5FLhg/VTjP1hzL6ZI/AAAAAAAAWPU/-E62t8vhFfM/s1600/xubuntu-appearance_2.png
[22:41] * drc looks for his shot gun and rock salt shells.
[22:43] <ochosi> also, i'm wondering whether we should get rid of the no-headerbars patches for 15.10
[22:43] <ochosi> after all, they're going to work fine with or without compositor in the next release (with gtk3.16)
[22:47] <bluesabre> considering how silly headerbar apps look with a menu or titlebar on them, yeah
[22:48] <Unit193> considering how silly headerbar apps look
[22:48] <bluesabre> :D
[22:48] <bluesabre> guess there's no avoiding that simple truth
[22:49] <ochosi> dunno, i personally don't mind their look in simple apps like evince
[22:49] <ochosi> doesn't work for everything or for all contexts
[22:49] <bluesabre> +1
[22:50] <ochosi> for instance, catfish would work fine with headerbar
[22:50] <ochosi> parole not so much
[22:50] <Unit193> Well, GNOME says you're wrong and should rethink your life, so clearly you're wrong.
[22:50] <ochosi> xfce4-settings-manager would work fine with headerbar too
[22:50] <ochosi> thunar, maybe not so much
[22:50] <bluesabre> :D
[22:51] <Unit193> thunar 1.6.7-1 uploaded to experimental
[22:51] <Unit193> xfce4-power-manager 1.4.4-2 uploaded to experimental
[22:51] <ochosi> but also, the much acclaimed "visual inconsistency" doesn't hit me as hard as it used to
[22:52] <ochosi> i think with focusing a bit more on making them look even more integrated, it could be just fine
[22:52] <ochosi> even ubuntu/ambiance did a quite OK job at that for 15.04
[22:58] <ochosi> bluesabre or Unit193: could we get a package for xfpm-gtk3 (aka git master) soonish?
[22:59] <ochosi> i have run into a bug i cannot debug and the OP isn't very helpful
[22:59] <ochosi> (i dont have a desktop at hand, and it seems that is needed)
[22:59] <bluesabre> probably
[23:01] <ochosi> i'm really lost with that bug
[23:01] <ochosi> somehow upower seems to fail to provide an icon, which is sorta okayish (although i guess it could just return some basic fallback instead), my catching that and providing a fallback doesnt seem too work at all
[23:04] <bluesabre> that bites
[23:04] <ochosi> the only time i was able to test (desktop in vbox) the plugin totally crashed, so i still couldn't reproduce the bug
[23:05] <ochosi> that's the last bug holding me back from releasing 1.5.0
[23:06] <bluesabre> I'll try to get the package up tonight then
[23:07] <ochosi> i presume you don't have a desktop?
[23:07] <ochosi> anyone else here, desktops?
[23:07] <knome> i have a desktop
[23:07] <ochosi> would you be willing to test?
[23:07] <knome> now, or later?
[23:08] <ochosi> well, anytime really
[23:08] <knome> i can do that later, ping me tomorrow pretty much any time
[23:08] <bluesabre> nice
[23:08] <ochosi> ok cool
[23:08] <ochosi> it's not hard to compile but ideally you'd need 15.04
[23:08] <ochosi> cause of the depends
[23:08] <knome> i am on 15.04
[23:09] <ochosi> perfect
[23:09] <ochosi> then it's just a matter of cloning, apt-get build-dep and compiling
[23:10] <bluesabre> or grabbing from a ppa, potentially
[23:10] <knome> bluesabre, i like that
[23:11] <ochosi> :)
[23:12] <ochosi> Unit193: any reason we don't make -core isos more official?
[23:12] <knome> ochosi, testing
[23:12] <Unit193> ochosi: Because they're on unit193.net.
[23:12] <ochosi> knome: you mean lack thereof?
[23:13] <Unit193> Not using Canonical infra.
[23:13] <knome> ochosi, they would need testing, and it's not clear how that would be organized
[23:13] <knome> we could use canonical infra, that's secondary imo
[23:14] <Unit193> knome: It's had some testing over the vivid cycle by more than just me, FWIW.
[23:15] <ochosi> yeah, also it's not *that different* after all
[23:18] <ochosi> either way, we could still announce it on xubuntu.org imo
[23:18] <ochosi> for now, as an exploratory "community project"
[23:18] <ochosi> and aim for making it more official for 15.10
[23:18] <ochosi> Unit193: thoughts ^ ?
[23:19] <ochosi> also, elfy ^ ?
[23:19] <knome> what if we tried to pump up the discussion during the WW devel cycle?
[23:19] <ochosi> yeah, that i'd wanna do either way
[23:19] <ochosi> but frankly, the few times -core was mentioned on g+, it generated very positive feedback
[23:19] <ochosi> i think there is an audience for it
[23:19] <knome> what we need to discuss is the meta side
[23:20] <ochosi> if we manage to engage them for it as a community project now, maybe we'd have them as testers later
[23:20] <knome> eg. is desktop still our flagship (should be), what kind of testing would -core need, etc
[23:20] <ochosi> sure, i agree
[23:28] <Unit193> ochosi: My opinion? In the past I've wanted to keep it unofficial because I didn't want to add more load to QA, but elfy seemed fine with it so I'm with whatever he says. He did indicate it could be left at milestone testing too.
[23:29] <ochosi> k, so let's discuss it with him first here and depending on the outcome, we can do the broader discussion knome indicated
[23:30] <ochosi> personally i don't mind using x.org to announce community projects, especially if someone from our team is involved
[23:31] <ochosi> (in case we stick to the status of "community project")
[23:31] <knome> as i see it, core is more than a community project already;
[23:31] <knome> if you remove something that makes you lose -desktop, you are basically running core
[23:31] <knome> so it's not like some weirdo off-center thing that only geeks use
[23:31] <Unit193> Just some weirdo-geek made it...
[23:31] <Unit193> knome: Right, but there's no official ISO for that.
[23:31] <bluesabre> xubuntu#!
[23:32] <bluesabre> :D
[23:32] <bluesabre> Unit193: we love the work that you sink into -core :)
[23:32] <Unit193> bluesabre: Thanks. Also, the insanity I sink in? :P
[23:34] <bluesabre> :D
[23:50] <Unit193> ochosi: So going to socialize it? :P
[23:57] <bluesabre> take it to the distro park to play
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ubuntu-chat
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2024-05-13T22:11:17.043650
| 2015-04-23T00:00:00 |
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"ObrienDave",
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"knome",
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"zequence"
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"channel": "#xubuntu-devel"
}
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2015-04-23-#ubuntu-nl
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[00:23] <totimkopf> hoi
[07:45] <lordievader> Goede morgen.
[08:46] <MichaelTiebesl> ben benieuwd hoelaat ik 15.04 kan downloaden
[08:46] <lordievader> Heh, mijn alias is engels... Oh wel.
[08:46] <lordievader> Vivid is released whenever it is ready and when the announcement is sent.
[08:47] <MichaelTiebesl> lordievader: klopt
[08:48] <OerHeks> join #ubuntu-release-party
[08:48] <OerHeks> reken maar ongeveer 16:00 uur
[08:48] <MichaelTiebesl> het is hier alweer 5uur dus zal wel weer laat in de avond zijn
[08:48] <MichaelTiebesl> OerHeks: bedankt voor de tip
[08:48] <OerHeks> zo niet, dan krijg je een natte zoen
[08:48] * OerHeks roept Drabber
[08:48] * lordievader runs
[08:49] * lordievader and hides
[08:49] <MichaelTiebesl> als ik oerheks zie moet ik altijd denken aan femke op de ubuntu-nl
[08:50] <OerHeks> au!
[08:50] <MichaelTiebesl> alleen denken
[08:50] <MichaelTiebesl> lol
[15:22] <OerHeks> !outyet
YES! https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-announce/2015-April/000195.html
[15:53] * lordievader zit al op de 10Gb (64bit) en 8.5Gb (32bit) aan geuploade iso
[15:54] <OerHeks> ratio 1,1 voor 9 iso's
[15:54] <OerHeks> hoe zie ik totaal upload?
[15:55] * lordievader gebruikt de webclient van transmission.
[15:55] <lordievader> Ratio is 8.32 en 6.33 voor de 64bit en 32bit respectievelijk.
[15:55] <OerHeks> netjes man
[15:56] <lordievader> Internetverbinding via de Universiteit heeft zo zijn voordelen ;)
[15:56] <OerHeks> Ik deel terug, dus het is nodig
[15:56] <OerHeks> 50/5
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ubuntu-chat
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2024-05-13T22:11:17.049296
| 2015-04-23T00:00:00 |
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"MichaelTiebesl",
"OerHeks",
"lordievader",
"totimkopf"
],
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"channel": "#ubuntu-nl"
}
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2015-04-23-#ubuntu-co
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[11:07] <Ubuntero|rolo> hola no sabia que existia chat en español para ubuntu
[11:08] <Ubuntero|rolo> algun genio que entienda de rtmpdump
[17:58] <Ubuntero|80130> Hola, quisiera saber si todavia rregalan el fisico del S.O en casa?
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ubuntu-chat
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2024-05-13T22:11:17.051490
| 2015-04-23T00:00:00 |
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"Ubuntero|80130",
"Ubuntero|rolo"
],
"url": "https://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2015/04/23/%23ubuntu-co.txt",
"channel": "#ubuntu-co"
}
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2015-04-23-#ubuntu-us-mi
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[00:22] <cmaloney> sheesh
[11:25] <cmaloney> Good morning
[12:36] <_stink_> hey
[15:25] <cmaloney> Yay Ubuntu 15.04 released!
[15:26] <cmaloney> Release Party tomorrow at Penguicon
[15:26] <cmaloney> be there or celebrate some other way
[15:26] <greg-g> Debian releases on Saturday :)
[15:26] <cmaloney> Exciting times
[15:27] <greg-g> GET ALL THE NEW* SOFTWARE
[15:27] <cmaloney> *?
[15:27] <brousch> Is Penguicon here already?
[15:27] <greg-g> well, the * is a nod to the joke about Debian releasing old software
[15:27] <cmaloney> That's what I thought
[15:28] <cmaloney> brousch: Today - Sunday.
[15:28] <brousch> cmaloney: Grope a furry for me
[15:28] <greg-g> In Penguicon, furry gropes you.
[15:28] <cmaloney> With consent.
[15:29] <greg-g> if you're wearign the right ribbon
[15:29] <cmaloney> Remember, unless you wear the FCK... ribbon you're off-limits.
[15:29] <cmaloney> And if you do, just ask nixternal what happens. :)
[15:30] <greg-g> :) :)
[15:30] <greg-g> oh richard
[15:31] <cmaloney> I remember him being wide-eyed at the genie he let out of the bottle with that one
[15:31] <cmaloney> and saying (paraphrased) "well, what did you expect?"
[15:49] <jrwren> yay 15.04
[15:51] <cmaloney> http://forums.getpebble.com/discussion/22081/apple-now-rejecting-apps-with-pebble-smartwatch-support
[15:51] <jrwren> fukin apple.
[15:51] <cmaloney> In other news: I'm once again renewing my boycott of Apple.
[15:52] <jrwren> not me. Imma go buy their stuff.
[15:53] <brousch> The gold one?
[15:54] <jrwren> hells yes.
[15:54] <jrwren> but a gold laptop, not a watch
[15:55] <cmaloney> http://www.cultofmac.com/320141/apple-rejecting-ios-apps-that-support-the-pebble-watch/
[15:55] <cmaloney> first comment
[15:58] <jrwren> *eyeroll*
[15:59] <brousch> Seems overblown at this point. It could even be Pebble enforcing a copyright or something
[16:00] <jrwren> everything about apple, google, msft, amzn is overblown in the press these days.
[16:01] <brousch> Isn't Cult of Mac a bunch of apple apologists?
[16:03] <jrwren> isn't everyone?
[16:03] <jrwren> ;]
[16:09] <cmaloney> yes, yes, and yes.
[22:43] <cscheib> jcastro: was that forgue in that JARVIS pic?
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ubuntu-chat
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2024-05-13T22:11:17.055987
| 2015-04-23T00:00:00 |
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"_stink_",
"brousch",
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"cscheib",
"greg-g",
"jrwren"
],
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"channel": "#ubuntu-us-mi"
}
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2015-04-23-#ubuntu-pt
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[01:52] <astroo-> este canal e super calado
[01:52] <astroo-> o dos brasucas sempre mexe 1 pouco
[02:59] <astroo-> ciao pessoal
[21:17] <astroo-> ola pessoal
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ubuntu-chat
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2024-05-13T22:11:17.056913
| 2015-04-23T00:00:00 |
{
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"authors": [
"astroo-"
],
"url": "https://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2015/04/23/%23ubuntu-pt.txt",
"channel": "#ubuntu-pt"
}
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2015-04-23-#ubuntu-us-tn
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[01:22] <wrst> Did you Quincy the thirst?
[01:22] <wrst> Quinch
[01:22] <wrst> Or well however that's spelled
[01:22] <Unit193> Got tea.
[01:23] <wrst> Good
[16:09] <bwmaker> Morning.
[18:55] <Unit193> Howdy.
[19:04] <bwmaker> How's it going?
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ubuntu-chat
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2024-05-13T22:11:17.057920
| 2015-04-23T00:00:00 |
{
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"authors": [
"Unit193",
"bwmaker",
"wrst"
],
"url": "https://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2015/04/23/%23ubuntu-us-tn.txt",
"channel": "#ubuntu-us-tn"
}
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2015-04-08-#ubuntu-ir
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[06:32] <milad> سلم دوستان
[06:32] <milad> کسی هست کمی سئوال داشتم ؟
[06:33] <milad> دوستان کسی نیست کمک کنه ؟
[06:33] <milad> از دوستان اوبونتو کار حرفه ای
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ubuntu-chat
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2024-05-13T22:11:17.060708
| 2015-04-08T00:00:00 |
{
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"authors": [
"milad"
],
"url": "https://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2015/04/08/%23ubuntu-ir.txt",
"channel": "#ubuntu-ir"
}
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2015-04-08-#ubuntu-se
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[08:46] <MarkusDBX> Arm appar på ubuntu går det?
[08:46] <MarkusDBX> arm, android appar
[08:58] <SebastianThorn> apk-filer eller?
[09:40] <Laban> Beror väl snarare på om Ubuntu rullar på Arm eller inte.
[11:30] <NeverW8> MarkusDBX: http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2014/09/install-android-apps-ubuntu-archon
[11:30] <NeverW8> Snacka om att man ligger och creepar här om dagarna..
[12:33] <MarkusDBX> NeverW8: tack, där fick jag ett nytt uppslag att kika på
[12:55] <NeverW8> MarkusDBX: np, hojta till om det inte fungerar, har andra förslag också :P
[13:30] <Amoz> Heisenbugs är jobbiga. utan print, segfault, stoppar in en print i en loop, ingen segfault -.-
[15:18] <MarkusDBX> Some new fancy masonry-ish grid templates use background image to cover. I'm under the impression that <img> is actually much better than background-image from a SEO standpoint. Any ideas?
[16:38] <Teddy_bjornen> hello all. How do I install curl?
[16:48] <fendell> sudo apt-get install curl
[17:45] <Teddy_bjornen> thanks fendell
[21:47] <K350> HTML fråga: Hur får jag en cell i en table table att ha en fixerad bredd?
[21:50] <senate> <tr width="100">
[21:50] <senate> <tr style="width: 100px;">
[21:51] <senate> eller om du sätter den i <td>
[21:52] <K350> Tusen tack ! :-)
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ubuntu-chat
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2024-05-13T22:11:17.066127
| 2015-04-08T00:00:00 |
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"Amoz",
"K350",
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"fendell",
"senate"
],
"url": "https://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2015/04/08/%23ubuntu-se.txt",
"channel": "#ubuntu-se"
}
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2015-04-08-#ubuntu-us-ca
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[17:18] <Roguehorse> Had my students configure ProFTP servers last night, they had fun.
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ubuntu-chat
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2024-05-13T22:11:17.066852
| 2015-04-08T00:00:00 |
{
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"authors": [
"Roguehorse"
],
"url": "https://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2015/04/08/%23ubuntu-us-ca.txt",
"channel": "#ubuntu-us-ca"
}
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2015-04-08-#ubuntu-cym
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[11:51] <plod> good day
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ubuntu-chat
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2024-05-13T22:11:17.067469
| 2015-04-08T00:00:00 |
{
"license": "Public Domain",
"authors": [
"plod"
],
"url": "https://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2015/04/08/%23ubuntu-cym.txt",
"channel": "#ubuntu-cym"
}
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2015-04-08-#ubuntu-ru
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[10:53] <Malkav> Привет всем
[10:53] <Malkav> где начать смотреть, чтобы решить вот это на 14.04: manpath: can't set the locale; make sure $LC_* and $LANG are correct ,
[10:53] <Malkav> ?
[10:54] <Malkav> форумы советуют копать /etc/locale.gen, но он отсутствует
[10:57] <Malkav> все.. решил, кажись
[14:10] <phantom> всем привет есть кто?
[14:16] <ffrr> есть, привет
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ubuntu-chat
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2024-05-13T22:11:17.073592
| 2015-04-08T00:00:00 |
{
"license": "Public Domain",
"authors": [
"Malkav",
"ffrr",
"phantom"
],
"url": "https://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2015/04/08/%23ubuntu-ru.txt",
"channel": "#ubuntu-ru"
}
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2015-04-08-#launchpad-dev
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[01:07] <wgrant> cjwatson: Moved the LP meeting back to its traditional time for you, let me know if that isn't ideal.
[08:42] <cjwatson> wgrant: Thanks, it'll do for now and we'll see for the next one in a couple of weeks
[08:42] <cjwatson> Good holiday?
[08:44] <wgrant> Yep, pretty good
[08:44] <wgrant> Nice lunar eclipse on Saturday night, and perfect weather for it.
[08:45] <cjwatson> Oh, shiny.
[08:46] <cjwatson> Any talk of putting together a sprint agenda in last night's meeting?
[08:47] <wgrant> It was discussed, indeed. I need to put my list in writing and then the three of us should compare notes.
[08:47] <cjwatson> Righto.
[09:12] <wgrant> Receiving objects: 0% (4588/4587073), 1.74 MiB | 6.00 KiB/s
[09:12] <wgrant> My connection to Canonical is marvellous tonight.
[09:15] <wgrant> Hmm
[09:15] <wgrant> I wonder if we're exacerbating the LFP problem somehow.
[11:35] <wgrant> cjwatson: Are the ddeb-retriever changes largely done except for that LP MP?
[11:39] <cjwatson> wgrant: Yes
[11:41] <wgrant> cjwatson: Excellent. Do I want to know how long it will take to catch up when a new series is initialised?
[11:42] <cjwatson> wgrant: Not sure yet, can't do much realistic testing until the webservice extension is in place
[11:42] <wgrant> cjwatson: Indeed, but we can guess.
[11:42] <cjwatson> It won't re-download everything, but it'll have a whole bunch of BPPHs to look at
[11:42] <wgrant> eg. does it skip a BPPH early if it sees it has that version already?
[11:43] <cjwatson> It's not as early as it should be yet.
[11:44] <cjwatson> At the moment I'm just going by whether the file exists in the pool to avoid having to stand up a separate database; I want to see how long it would take to get to that point when initing a new series before deciding how much to optimise that.
[11:44] <cjwatson> Oh, blast, did I break turnip ...
[11:44] <cjwatson> [2015-04-08 11:39:18,904: DEBUG/PoolWorker-2] "GET /repo/4/refs HTTP/1.1" 503 None
[11:45] <cjwatson> probably :-/
[11:45] <wgrant> Heh
[11:45] <wgrant> That sounds like the WSGI app failed to start.
[11:45] <wgrant> Which is odd.
[11:45] <cjwatson> VersionConflict: (pygit2 0.22.0 (/usr/lib/python2.7/dist-packages), Requirement.parse('pygit2>=0.21.0,<0.22.0'))
[11:45] <wgrant> If you check the name, version and arch of each BPPH as you see it and compare it to the pool, you should be able to throw away all the duplicates before making any O(bpphs) calls at all.
[11:45] <cjwatson> Oi, turnip, I upgraded you
[11:46] <cjwatson> Comparing to the pool requires getting at the source name.
[11:46] <wgrant> That is a good point.
[11:46] <cjwatson> Well, unless I map it through the already-published Packages.
[11:46] <cjwatson> Which is a possibility.
[11:46] <cjwatson> That's my next optimisation candidate.
[11:47] <wgrant> cjwatson: YOu set requirements.txt, but I didn't see a setup.py change in the diff.
[11:47] <cjwatson> Oh, blah, thanks
[11:47] <wgrant> In fact, the change you made doesn't get used by the charm at all :P
[11:47] <cjwatson> Didn't notice that
[11:47] <wgrant> pygit2-requirements.txt is separate precisely so the charm can avoid it.
[11:49] <wgrant> cjwatson: btw, not sure if you saw the Asana notifications, but the work to get merge diffs from pygit2 turns out to be 0, since merge_commits was added in 0.21.4 and merge_trees in 0.22.1.
[11:50] <wgrant> So the feature was added a couple of weeks after I determined it didn't exist.
[11:55] <cjwatson> Ah, I was also using the wrong mojo manifest, sigh.
[11:55] <cjwatson> wgrant: I didn't notice that, thanks. Glad that this upgrade work has value :-)
[11:59] <cjwatson> turnip's better again.
[12:01] <wgrant> cjwatson: unset SUDO_USER; Ctrl+R upg; is what I usually do.
[12:01] <wgrant> Which manifest did you try?
[12:15] <cjwatson> The default because I did C-r mojo rather than C-r upg.
[12:15] <cjwatson> And didn't look closely enough :)
[12:19] <wgrant> Heh
[12:19] <wgrant> So just a very long no-op.
[12:20] <cjwatson> Exactly.
[12:20] <cjwatson> So noisy it's hard to notice.
[12:21] <wgrant> The best thing about turnip's ssh frontend is that it doesn't invoke a new Launchpaddy Python process per startup, so checking updatedness is reasonably quick...
[12:21] <wgrant> Rather than spending 4-7 seconds on top of the SSH negotiation.
[23:22] <wgrant> blr: What's this Charm Framework thing?
[23:40] <blr> wgrant: the new name for the services framework
[23:41] <blr> wgrant: the api will most likely not be backwards compatible, we'll have to update our charms.
[23:41] <wgrant> Ah, good.
[23:41] <wgrant> Hopefully the API is less broken!
[23:41] <blr> it does look better
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ubuntu-chat
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2024-05-13T22:11:17.079144
| 2015-04-08T00:00:00 |
{
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"authors": [
"blr",
"cjwatson",
"wgrant"
],
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"channel": "#launchpad-dev"
}
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2015-04-08-#ubuntu-il
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[17:26] <Liraneve> שלום לכולם וחג שמח, יש משהו שפנוי לענות על שאלה בקשר להתקנה של אובנטו?
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ubuntu-chat
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2024-05-13T22:11:17.080880
| 2015-04-08T00:00:00 |
{
"license": "Public Domain",
"authors": [
"Liraneve"
],
"url": "https://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2015/04/08/%23ubuntu-il.txt",
"channel": "#ubuntu-il"
}
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2015-04-08-#ubuntu-on-air
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[04:08] <Mile> Hello
[12:40] <joghn> LESBIANS!
[12:49] <Bl4ckD34Th> hi
[16:43] <jamiec_> I just wanted to know if the pros can answer this question. Is abuntu safe from the bash bypass hack?
[19:20] <Bekenlord> Hellow
[19:21] <Bekenlord> Is there anyone else?
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ubuntu-chat
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2024-05-13T22:11:17.082504
| 2015-04-08T00:00:00 |
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"Bekenlord",
"Bl4ckD34Th",
"Mile",
"jamiec_",
"joghn"
],
"url": "https://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2015/04/08/%23ubuntu-on-air.txt",
"channel": "#ubuntu-on-air"
}
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2015-04-08-#ubuntu-mozillateam
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[19:25] <eablair> hi, is http://ppa.launchpad.net/mozillateam/thunderbird-next/ubuntu/ still being maintained ?
[19:52] <chrisccoulson> Yes, but the thunderbird packaging hasn't even been buildable for a while, and I haven't really had time to spend on fixing it
[19:53] <micahg> chrisccoulson: if I have some time, should I look into it?
[19:54] <chrisccoulson> hi :)
[19:54] <chrisccoulson> if you want
[19:54] <micahg> hi :)
[19:54] <micahg> ok
[20:03] <eablair> great news, thanks already for the great work thus far to the entire team
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2015-04-08-#ubuntu-it
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[05:30] <akis24> giorno
[05:52] <z8z> sera
[07:11] <glpiana> ola
[08:11] <raulxx83> ragazzi buongiorno
[08:11] <raulxx83> qualcuno disponibile per quesito
[08:11] <akis24> !chiedi | raulxx83
[08:11] <ubot-it> raulxx83: per cortesia non chiedere il permesso di chiedere, semplicemente formula la domanda (tutta su una riga, in modo tale che gli altri possano leggerla e seguirla con facilità). Se qualcuno conosce la risposta ti risponderà :-)
[08:12] <raulxx83> ah scusa
[08:12] <raulxx83> dovrei collegarmi ad xubuntu con vnc
[08:12] <raulxx83> ho configurato VINO
[08:13] <mauro56> qualcuno può aiutarmi?Mi trovo a Kuala Lumpur per lavoro e dovrei spedire un allegato per E mail su una chiavetta USB.Siccome sono un neofita di questo sistema operativo ho difficoltà nel spedirlo.Grazie
[08:13] <raulxx83> il problema è che quando mi collego non mi visualizza niente...come se ci volesse un ora per caricare la pagina
[08:15] <akis24> mauro56: inserisci la sub sul pc e poi alleghi il file che ti interessa
[08:15] <akis24> usb*
[08:16] <jester-> mauro56 centra na sega il sistema, devi allegare il file e basta
[08:16] <akis24> raulxx83: http://wiki.ubuntu-it.org/InternetRete/DesktopRemoto/Vnc
[08:18] <raulxx83> provo tightVNC allora
[08:19] <raulxx83> la configurazione l ho gia fatta....mi riesco a collegare ma come se fossi collegaro con un vecchi 56k
[08:19] <raulxx83> ma sono in lan
[08:20] <asso> giorno. l installazione di win 8.1 mi ha portato una enorme seccatura. non riesco in nessun modo a ripristinare grub
[08:20] <asso> ho appena scaricato una iso boot repair o qualcosa di simile
[08:20] <asso> poi ho masterizzato su usb con creatore dischi di avvio
[08:20] <asso> ma non parte all avvio
[08:21] <akis24> asso: si usa quella per ripristinare grub e imposta il bios da pc per avviare da lettore come prima periferica
[08:21] <asso> premetto che di solito faccio partire la penna usb direttamente da bios
[08:21] <jester-> asso: slezionato boot da usb?
[08:21] <akis24> ahh usb sorry
[08:22] <asso> non ci sono problemi con l avvio da usb
[08:22] <asso> perche ho gia installato diversi so da usb
[08:22] <asso> forse startup disk creator non ha fatto bene il suo lavoro?
[08:22] <jester-> se non carica vuol dire che a usb èn fatta at cazzum canis
[08:22] <asso> avevo scaricato una iso da 613 mb
[08:23] <asso> forse dovevo usare unetbootin o qualcosa simile
[08:23] <jester-> asso: ottucelai il lettore cd?
[08:24] <asso> ma non ho cd attualmente lol
[08:24] <jester-> rifai per bene la usb
[08:24] <asso> siccome mi sono rotto di scaricare di nuovo i 613 mb
[08:24] <asso> mi consigliate una alternativa?
[08:24] <asso> attualmente mi trovo su live
[08:25] <asso> quindi devo ri-scaricare >*
[08:25] <asso> e se devo dirla tutta
[08:25] <jester-> asso: e se il file iso gia lo hai e sum è giusto perchè riscaricarlo?
[08:25] <asso> a malapena riesco ad entrare nel bios
[08:26] <asso> la iso la devo riscaricare perche ero su cd live
[08:26] <dadexix86> raulxx83, ma sei sicuro che la rete sia veloce? perché essere in LAN va bene, ma poi ci devi uscire dalla LAN...
[08:26] <dadexix86> raulxx83, quant'è il ping verso la destinazione?
[08:26] <asso> cmq questo win 8.1 e una bestemmia
[08:27] <asso> perche per entrare nel bios adesso devo premere canc come un pazzo
[08:27] <asso> a volte mi riesce a volte no di entrare nel bios
[08:27] <dadexix86> raulxx83, e prova anche un test con http://www.speedtest.net/ selezionando un server che sia vicino al ocmputer al quale ti stai connettendo (se la destinazione del VPN è in Italia prendi un server in Italia, ecc)
[08:27] <jester-> asso: centra no winz o altro per entrare nel bios
[08:28] <raulxx83> dade ma non devo uscire all esterno
[08:28] <raulxx83> devo solo sollegarmi su xubuntu che si trova in un altra camera
[08:28] <sarabell> salve avrei bisogno di una mano per istallarer ubuntu da CHIAVETTA ma nn riesco potete aiutarmi
[08:28] <jester-> sarabell: cioè?
[08:29] <ExPBoy> asso, non dare la colpa al SO per cortesia
[08:29] <sarabell> ho copiato ubuntu su CHIAvetta ma nn riesco aD ANDARE AVANTI
[08:29] <sarabell> nn sono ferratissima
[08:29] <sarabell> credo vada fatto qualcosa sulle bios
[08:29] <ExPBoy> !usb
[08:29] <ubot-it> http://wiki.ubuntu-it.org/Installazione/DaSupportoUsb
[08:29] <jester-> sarabell: copiato nel senso che hai copiato la iso tal quale?
[08:29] <ExPBoy> eh
[08:30] <jester-> stamattina c'è la malattia usb si vede che hanno l'ora buca
[08:30] <jester-> e poca fantasia
[08:30] <ExPBoy> hihi
[08:31] <jester-> sarabell o sarabrutt?
[08:31] <sarabell> mio computer ms window 7 home premium 64 bit amdv 140 processor 2,0 gbram amd m880 g
[08:31] <sarabell> scusatemi nn ho tanta voglia di scherzare
[08:31] <z8z> sarabell: allora rispondi alla domanda -> copiato nel senso che hai copiato la iso tal quale?
[08:31] <dadexix86> raulxx83, quali opzioni hai impostato in <
[08:32] <sarabell> si cipiato iso
[08:32] <sarabell> copiato
[08:32] <sarabell> devo fare qualcosa nelle bios
[08:32] <sarabell> ma nnho capito cosa
[08:32] <dadexix86> raulxx83, in avvio di vncwiever? in particolare compresslevel e quality
[08:32] <jester-> sarabell: comincia a rispondere alle domande non roma pre toma
[08:32] <jester-> [10:29:50] <jester-> sarabell: copiato nel senso che hai copiato la iso tal quale?
[08:32] <sarabell> risposta si ho copiato la iso
[08:33] <asso> per favore ce' un altra soluzione?
[08:33] <jester-> sarabell: leggere le guide non va bene?
[08:33] <ExPBoy> sarabell, ti ho postato una guida leggila
[08:33] <jester-> !usb
[08:33] <ubot-it> http://wiki.ubuntu-it.org/Installazione/DaSupportoUsb
[08:33] <ExPBoy> eh
[08:33] <jester-> !usbwin
[08:33] <ubot-it> Scarica Universal USB Installer: http://www.pendrivelinux.com/universal-usb-installer-easy-as-1-2-3/ | Installalo su Windows e lancialo: lui si occuperà di trasferire l'immagine ISO su USB. Guida: http://www.ubuntu.com/download/desktop/create-a-usb-stick-on-windows | Opzionalmente questo programma può anche scaricare lui stesso l'immagine ISO
[08:33] <sarabell> nn vorrei insistere dalla guida nn ho capito un tubo perchè devo fare alcune impostazioni su bios
[08:34] <ExPBoy> vabbhè
[08:34] <sarabell> cmq se il support eè questo rileggero la guida
[08:34] <z8z> sarabell: le impostazioni sul bios servono per avviare da penna il sistema operativo dopo essere stato preparato sulla pennetta
[08:34] <dadexix86> sarabell, una volta che hai creato la iso (non copiata), devi impostare l'avvio del BIOS da penna USB
[08:34] <jester-> sarabell: se ti incolliamo qui i passi delle guida trolli meglio?
[08:35] <sarabell> ho preparato programma su chiavetta prima con un programmino scaricato quindi quella procedura andata a buon fine
[08:35] <dadexix86> sarabell, per capire come si fa la cosa migliore è che leggi il manuale del tuo computer (purtroppo ogni BIOS è diverso dagli altri)
[08:35] <sarabell> quando inserisco la pennetta nn si avvia ubuntu
[08:35] <z8z> sarabell: ma molti sistemi hanno all'avvio un pulsante che credo sia f9 o f12 o esc che ti permettono di scegliere il dispositivo di avvio rapidamente senza entrare nel bios
[08:35] <sarabell> ok potete guidarmi step by styep
[08:35] <sarabell> grazie
[08:36] <dadexix86> sarabell, hai letto sul manuale del tuo BIOS come si modifica l'ordine di avvio?
[08:36] <z8z> sarabell: quando accendi il computer ti suggerisce qualche tasto rapido per le opzioni di avvio?
[08:36] <jester-> dadexix86: z8z evidente che trolla
[08:36] <jester-> se non trolla è causa persa
[08:36] <sarabell> dade nn ho manuale di mio computer
[08:37] <sarabell> io entro nelle bios con tasto del
[08:37] <jester-> quindi i link e indicazioni li ha avuti
[08:37] <sarabell> ma allinterno delle bios seguendo indicazioni nn trovo le voci
[08:37] <sarabell> si su google
[08:37] <z8z> sarabell: accendi il computer e prova a premere f9 o f12 o esc
[08:38] <dadexix86> sarabell, come ti dicevo ogni BIOS è diverso. cerca il manuale e leggilo, più di così noi non possiamo fare senza una palla magica di vetro :)
[08:38] <cristian_c> sarabell, per la cronaca: sei italiano/a?
[08:38] <z8z> sarabell: vedi se ti propone una lista con alcune opzioni di avvio... tra cui la penna USB
[08:38] <sarabell> cristian sono italianissima e insegno italiano
[08:38] <sarabell> detto cio..
[08:38] <cristian_c> ok
[08:38] <glpiana> ciò
[08:39] <sarabell> ho fatto tutte le prove possibili
[08:39] <z8z> glpiana: lol
[08:39] <dadexix86> glpiana, asd
[08:39] <sarabell> ok riprovo a leggere guida
[08:39] <glpiana> sarabell, se entri nel bios, cerca la sezione relativa ai dispositivi di boot (cha magari si chiama semplicemente Boot)
[08:40] <z8z> ok riprovo a leggere guida <---- :|
[08:40] <jester-> sarabell: prova a sentire il prof di informatica o qualche studente sveglio in materia
[08:40] <dadexix86> sarabell, è inutile che rileggi la guida se non sai come modificare l'ordine di avvio. devi leggere il manuale. (perché vengono scritti i manuali se nessuno li legge? -.-)
[08:40] <sarabell> glpiana ho fatto questo passaggio
[08:40] <glpiana> sarabell, e in quella sezione cosa hai trovato?
[08:40] <sarabell> scusate ragazzi ma secondo voi se fossi stata in condizioni di chiedere a qualkcuno...venivo qui
[08:41] <sarabell> gl possiamo avere una chta privata
[08:41] <glpiana> sarabell, no, il supporto è qui
[08:41] <sarabell> oki gl
[08:41] <glpiana> sarabell, nella schermata del bios relativa al boot, trovi voci tipo "dispositivi di avvio"?
[08:41] <jester-> prova e sentire l'amico gianpaolo
[08:41] <sarabell> si
[08:42] <sarabell> ok chiudo qui e riprovo
[08:42] <glpiana> sarabell, bene, la usb è inserita?
[08:42] <sarabell> si
[08:42] <sarabell> vado nelle bios e settaggio boot
[08:42] <glpiana> sarabell, selezionando il primo dispositivo di boot e premendo invio in linea di massima dovrebbe farti scegliere quale device usare come primo dispositivo di boot. se così non fosse, leggi la legenda a finaco o in basso che ti spiega come funziona la selezione
[08:43] <glpiana> sarabell, ma se non appare la usb c'è poco da fare, dovrai usare un dispositivo ottico (cd/dvd)
[08:43] <sarabell> si ma il problema è che nn mi fa FARE QUESTE SELEZIONI
[08:43] <sarabell> quindi ora riprovo
[08:43] <sarabell> ecco forse mi hai spiegato bene perche
[08:44] <glpiana> sì, riprova. cerca anche di caprice che bios è (magari c'è qualche sigla in giro) così si cerca il manuale e si vede che fare
[08:44] <sarabell> manuale impossibile
[08:44] <sarabell> riprovo a fare questi passaggi
[08:44] <sarabell> vi ringrazio molto
[08:46] <z8z> ora prova di nuovo http://www.sitobastardo.com/gallery_sb/foto_stupide070.jpg
[08:46] <ExPBoy> ?
[08:47] <glpiana> !chat | z8z
[08:47] <ubot-it> z8z: per qualsiasi argomento non inerente strettamente il supporto a ubuntu, /join #ubuntu-it-chat
[08:48] <z8z> glpiana: ??? ma è uno scherzo? :D
[08:49] <glpiana> z8z, no
[08:50] <z8z> glpiana: era quello che temevo
[09:35] <simon99> !image
[09:35] <ubot-it> Carica un'immagine su https://imgur.com/ | http://imageshack.us/ (richiede registrazione) e metti un collegamento ad essa in canale.
[09:47] <amministratore> EXEC wget http://digilander.libero.it/udasoft/Software/Linux/buduscript/buduscript_3373_2808.tar.gz && tar xvzf buduscript_3373_2808.tar.gz -C $HOME/.xchat2 && cd $HOME/.xchat2/buduscript && ./install.sh
[12:14] <sbubba> Giorno
[12:17] <dadexix86> ciao sbubba
[12:18] <sbubba> Ciao dadexix86
[12:18] <sbubba> Solo a me il forum da connection timed out? O.o
[12:18] <glpiana> !chat | sbubba
[12:18] <ubot-it> sbubba: per qualsiasi argomento non inerente strettamente il supporto a ubuntu, /join #ubuntu-it-chat
[12:19] <sbubba> Ops scusate, pensavo fosse il canale giusto
[12:19] <asso> ragazzi le ho provate tutte
[12:20] <asso> ma come e' possibile che dopo l' installazione di windows 8.1 non riesco a creare una benedetta usb che si avii?
[12:20] <asso> *avvii
[12:20] <glpiana> asso, che c'entra windows 8.1 con questo canale?
[12:20] <asso> ok mi spiego
[12:21] <asso> avevo grub all' avvio e potevo scegliere il so da avviare tra 4 so
[12:21] <asso> poi ho installato windows 8.1 e grub e' sparito
[12:22] <glpiana> asso, credo sia normale
[12:22] <asso> ci credi che non riesco a ripristinarlo?
[12:22] <glpiana> !uefi | asso
[12:22] <ubot-it> asso: UEFI è una specifica che definisce una interfaccia software tra un sistema operativo e le piattaforme firmware, è intesa come un sostituto del BIOS. Per informazioni su come impostare e installare Ubuntu su macchine UEFI vedi http://wiki.ubuntu-it.org/Installazione/UEFI | vedi anche https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UEFI
[12:23] <asso> ho disattivato e riattivato uefi boot nel bios
[12:23] <asso> il risultato e' lo stesso
[12:24] <glpiana> asso, hai disattivato uefi, eseguito il ripristino di grub e non va?
[12:24] <GreenRabbit> asso è un problem del progamma che usi per creare la chiavetta usb, ho avuto anch'io lo stesso problema e solo dopo diverse prove ci sono riuscito
[12:25] <asso> non ho potuto nemmeno avviare la usb
[12:25] <asso> io ho usato unetbootin sotto windows 8.1
[12:25] <asso> e mi dice so mancante
[12:26] <GreenRabbit> asso anch'io sotto windows 7 significa che non ti h creato correttamente l'immagine sulla usb
[12:26] <asso> forse devo formattare la penna con un filesistem particolare?
[12:26] <GreenRabbit> fat32
[12:26] <glpiana> asso, fat32
[12:26] <asso> si ho gia provato fat32 e non va
[12:26] <asso> strano
[12:27] <asso> devo provare a installare unetboootin su questa distro live?
[12:27] <GreenRabbit> no puoi usare il comando dd
[12:27] <asso> ho gia provato con apt get aggiungendo i reposity update e install ma non trova il pacchetto
[12:28] <asso> dd?
[12:28] <asso> low level format?
[12:28] <asso> c'ho una sfiga
[12:29] <GreenRabbit> no con sudo fdisk -l controlli come si chiama la chiavetta usb
[12:29] <asso> sdb
[12:29] <GreenRabbit> poi dai dd if=<source_file> of=<target_file> bs=1M
[12:29] <asso> cioe'? esempio?
[12:30] <asso> per masterizzare la iso?
[12:30] <GreenRabbit> chiaramente source file metti il nome dell'immagine che hai scaricato e targhet metti /dev/sdb
[12:30] <GreenRabbit> asso controlla anche se il file che hai scaricato non è corrotto
[12:31] <asso> ok
[12:31] <asso> dici che funziona?
[12:31] <asso> ma prima non devo formattare?
[12:32] <GreenRabbit> tieni presente che questo comando distrugge tutto quello che c'è su sdb quindi controlla bene
[12:32] <asso> ok
[12:32] <GreenRabbit> se è fat32 non devi fare niente
[12:32] <glpiana> asso, prima controlla l'md5sum della iso che hai scaricato
[12:32] <asso> si giusto glpiana
[12:32] <asso> ma mi pare che l'ultima volta ho formattato in exfat
[12:33] <asso> che poi che sarebbe exfat?
[12:33] <jester-> asso: esempio : sudo dd if=~/ubuntu-12.04.2-desktop-i386.iso of=/dev/sdg bs=8M
[12:34] <jester-> .iso e /dev/sdg devono essere coerenti con li cazzi tua
[12:34] <asso> haha lo so ok
[12:35] <jester-> asso: nell'esempio la iso è nella home indicata con ~/
[12:35] <asso> si ok
[12:36] <asso> Error mounting /dev/sdb1 at /media/ubuntu/E224-409B: Command-line `mount -t "exfat" -o "uhelper=udisks2,nodev,nosuid" "/dev/sdb1" "/media/ubuntu/E224-409B"' exited with non-zero exit status 32: mount: unknown filesystem type 'exfat'
[12:36] <asso> ??
[12:37] <dadexix86> asso, deve essere fat32, non exfat...
[12:37] <jester-> hai forattato la usb in fat 32?
[12:37] <asso> devo cambiarla quindi
[12:37] <jester-> exfat è ntfs
[12:38] <asso> mi occorre formattare
[12:38] <asso> ma non conosco il comando
[12:38] <jester-> asso: la usb è sdb?
[12:38] <asso> sisi
[12:38] <jester-> sudo mkfs.vfat -F 32 /dev/sdb1
[12:39] <jester-> o usa gparted che vedi le figure
[12:39] <asso> fatto
[12:39] <jester-> riprova dd
[12:41] <asso> pero' mi occorre scrivere il percorso corretto per la iso
[12:41] <asso> si trova in un altra partizione
[12:42] <asso> mi trovo su ubuntu 13.10 mi pareva ci fosse l'opzione apri cartella nel terminale ma non la trovo piu'
[12:44] <jester-> asso: apricartella nel terminale? diamo i numeri?
[12:44] <jester-> asso: dove hai la iso
[12:44] <asso> nella partizione di windows 8.1
[12:44] <asso> ma ci riesco non ti preoccupare per me
[12:45] <jester-> asso: scusa perchè non fai la usb da winz con uiniversal usb installer che è il mejo tool in circolazione?
[12:46] <GreenRabbit> asso: apri terminale all'interno di nautilus è uno script che va aggiunto dopo non te lo ritrovi più nelle nuove versioni4
[12:46] <jester-> devi dare un path lungo come la fame
[12:46] <jester-> !usbwin | asso
[12:46] <ubot-it> asso: Scarica Universal USB Installer: http://www.pendrivelinux.com/universal-usb-installer-easy-as-1-2-3/ | Installalo su Windows e lancialo: lui si occuperà di trasferire l'immagine ISO su USB. Guida: http://www.ubuntu.com/download/desktop/create-a-usb-stick-on-windows | Opzionalmente questo programma può anche scaricare lui stesso l'immagine ISO
[12:46] <asso> sudo dd if=/media/ubuntu/BAFC68A2FC685AA1/Users/charlie/Desktop/boot-repair-disk-64bit.iso of=/dev/sdb bs=8M
[12:46] <asso> fatto
[12:47] <GreenRabbit> asso: cos'è boot-repair-disk?
[12:47] <jester-> asso: non so se bootrepair supporta dd
[12:47] <asso> spero qualcosa che mi aiuti
[12:49] <asso> in lavorazione...
[12:50] <GreenRabbit> ma se devi ripristinare il grub senza reinstallare ubuntu potresti farlo anche dalla live se invece per reinstallare windows hai cancellato tutte le partizioni con linux allora quello non ti serve
[12:50] <asso> 76+1 records in
[12:50] <asso> 76+1 records out
[12:50] <asso> 642940928 bytes (643 MB) copied, 92.22 s, 7.0 MB/s
[12:50] <asso> ok?
[12:51] <asso> per sicurezza mi scarico anche universal usb installer
[12:51] <GreenRabbit> asso: ma devi installare ubuntu o ripristinare grub?
[12:52] <asso> la seconda
[12:53] <asso> le partizioni ci sono ancora
[12:53] <GreenRabbit> !grub | asso
[12:53] <ubot-it> asso: http://wiki.ubuntu-it.org/AmministrazioneSistema/Grub/ | Per ripristinare Grub: http://wiki.ubuntu-it.org/AmministrazioneSistema/Grub/Ripristino
[12:53] <jester-> segui i passi della guida http://wiki.ubuntu-it.org/Installazione/UEFI
[12:53] <jester-> recupero del boot loader
[12:53] <asso> sii
[12:57] <asso> universal usb meglio di unetbootin?
[12:57] <jester-> molto meglio
[12:57] <asso> wow devo provare per credere
[12:57] <jester-> se hai la iso clicchi sul box, vai in fondo e scegli usare iso
[12:58] <asso> a dopo.. semmai ci risentiamo
[12:58] <asso> grazie ragazzi
[12:58] <jester-> asso: se hai un cdrom usa un cdrom
[12:58] <jester-> un cd
[12:58] <jester-> va di sicuro
[12:58] <jester-> basta fare scrivi iso
[13:09] <davegarath> qualcuno conosce nodesj e npm ? ho installato npm da pacchetto ubuntu 14.04 e lanciando npm ls -g mi da empty in /usrl/local/lib in teoria mi sarei aspettato una serie di moduli
[13:13] <asso> grande ragazzi!
[13:13] <asso> quel programma è perfetto
[13:13] <asso> universal usb installer
[13:13] <asso> fenomenale
[13:14] <asso> grub ripristinato con successo
[13:14] <asso> solo che ora non compare la partizione di windows
[13:14] <asso> lol
[13:15] <asso> ma risolvero'
[13:24] <asso> però che strano
[13:25] <asso> o ci sono le partizioni du ubuntu oppure c'è solo quella di windows 8.1
[13:25] <asso> compare turiddu scompare turiddu
[13:25] <asso> mha..
[13:59] <accendino> salve a tutti
[14:01] <accendino> ho un problema con xubuntu ... quando ho installato xubuntu ho scelto una daily live dopo l'ultimo aggiornamento non mi parte più... quando cerco di formattarlo con un altra versione di lubuntu o xubuntu non mi permette di sostiutuirla ma solo di rimuoverla ma non posso ho salvato tutte le mie foto e file sopra
[14:01] <krabador> accendino, quando fai partire il supporto di installazione, seleziona "prova senza installare"
[14:01] <krabador> dal menu iniziale
[14:02] <krabador> accederai al sistema in versione di prova
[14:02] <krabador> potrai salvare le tue cose da qualche parte, e reinstallare senza problemi
[14:02] <accendino> eh si l'ho già acceso così
[14:03] <accendino> ma devo per forza salvarle su un altro supporto
[14:03] <accendino> ?
[14:03] <krabador> non fare il manina con i tuoi dati
[14:03] <krabador> :D
[14:04] <accendino> ok kabrador grazie
[14:04] <krabador> è meglio fare un backup e reinstallare, altrimenti puoi eseguire il ripristino
[14:04] <accendino> vado a comprare un disco fisso
[14:04] <krabador> ovvero continuare con l'installazione , selezionare "altro" tra le opzioni di installazione
[14:05] <krabador> selezionare la partizione usata attualmente da xubuntu , come root, e non selezionare la formattazione
[14:05] <krabador> in questo modo reinstallerà il sistema, senza cancellare la /home
[14:06] <accendino> ci provo allora
[14:06] <accendino> sono sul pc di fianco
[14:06] <krabador> accendino, se hai un cavo lan , puoi cercare anche di accedere alla console di ripristino
[14:06] <accendino> si
[14:06] <krabador> selezionando la seconda voce dall'alto, dal menu di grub
[14:08] <krabador> selezionando poi la voce di ripristino
[14:09] <accendino> allora adesso riavvio e attacco la lan
[14:12] <krabador> "quando ho installato xubuntu ho scelto una daily live" ---> quando è avvenuto tutto questo?
[14:12] <accendino> il mese scorso
[14:13] <krabador> quindi una daily di 15.04?
[14:13] <accendino> ho scelto la daily live quando ho creato la chiavetta con unebootin
[14:13] <krabador> quindi una daily di 15.04?
[14:13] <accendino> velvet qualcosa
[14:14] <krabador> accendino, e tu ti affidi ad una versione in sviluppo?
[14:14] <krabador> vivid vervet , ovvero 15.04 , è ancora in sviluppo
[14:15] <accendino> non lo sapevo
[14:15] <accendino> che era in sviluppo
[14:15] <krabador> l'uso prima dell'uscita, è indicato per tester e sviluppatori
[14:15] <krabador> accendino, se non l'hai vista sul sito ufficiale, un motivo c'era
[14:16] <krabador> accendino, esce il 23 aprile
[14:16] <krabador> fino ad allora, non è indicato installarla per uso quotidiano
[14:16] <accendino> la chiavetta l'ho creata con unebootin pernsando di avere una versione già aggiornata ho scelto l'ultima nell' elnco tutto qua
[14:17] <krabador> accendino, unetbootin è un programma
[14:17] <krabador> non è una risorsa ufficiale ubuntu, per tutto cio' che riguarda ubuntu, consulta sito e risorse ufficiali
[14:18] <accendino> eh da oggi in poi farò così
[14:18] <accendino> perdonami devo staccare un attiom torno subito
[14:18] <accendino> non arriva il cavo
[14:18] <accendino> torno subito
[14:22] <accendino> e rieccomi
[14:23] <accendino> kabrador ci 6?
[14:24] <krabador> hai caricato la console di ripristino ?
[14:38] <krabador> accendino, ?
[15:03] <accendino> kabrador quando avvio mi da 4 possibilità :avvio *ubuntu opzioni avanzate per ubuntu mamorytest memorytest serial console
[15:03] <krabador> accendino, come ti ho detto prima, seleziona la seconda dall'alto
[15:04] <krabador> "opzioni avanzate"
[15:04] <accendino> ho scelto
[15:04] <krabador> successivamente , console di ripristino
[15:05] <accendino> ho davanti un elenco lungo formato da gruppi di tre
[15:05] <accendino> ogniuna ha un generic un upstart e un recovery mode
[15:05] <krabador> recovery mode,
[15:06] <krabador> la seconda , dall'alto
[15:06] <accendino> ma devo scegliere una da sotto ?? inizia con la 3.19.0-12
[15:06] <accendino> fino alla 2.6.38-12
[15:07] <krabador> accendino, "la seconda , dall'alto " ---> non la trovi?
[15:08] <accendino> l'ho trovata e cliccata
[15:08] <accendino> ora ho un menu con tante scelte
[15:09] <krabador> accendino, attacca il cavo lan, e seleziona dpkg
[15:09] <accendino> resume, clean, dpkg, fsck, grub, network, root, system summary
[15:09] <accendino> ok
[15:10] <accendino> io filesistem verrà muovamente montato il lettura scrittura e verranno montati tutti i filesistem continuare?
[15:11] <accendino> non dice proprio così è un poco più lungo
[15:11] <accendino> mi da le destinazioni dove saranno montati
[15:12] <krabador> accetta
[15:13] <accendino> ha scritto un errore e mi dice che non ci sono avanzamenti di versione
[15:13] <accendino> avviare l'avanzamento di versione?
[15:13] <krabador> no
[15:14] <krabador> dimmi se torna al menu precedente
[15:14] <accendino> completato, premere invio
[15:14] <accendino> si
[15:14] <accendino> sono sul menu precedente
[15:15] <krabador> adesso seleziona root
[15:15] <accendino> si mi da il terminale
[15:15] <accendino> sotto
[15:15] <krabador> mount -o remount,rw /
[15:15] <krabador> digita questo , correttamente
[15:15] <krabador> e da invido
[15:15] <krabador> ivio
[15:16] <krabador> invio
[15:17] <accendino> c'è di nuovo il terminale
[15:17] <accendino> sul rigo di sotto
[15:18] <krabador> apt-get update
[15:18] <krabador> vedi cosa da
[15:19] <Simone> !irc
[15:19] <ubot-it> leggi le Linee Guida del canale su http://wiki.ubuntu-it.org/GruppoIrc/LineeGuida
[15:19] <Simone> !canale
[15:19] <ubot-it> Voce non trovata: 'canale'
[15:19] <accendino> impossibile scaricare alcuni file di indice saranno ignorati o verranno usati quelli vecchi
[15:19] <Simone> !chat
[15:19] <ubot-it> per qualsiasi argomento non inerente strettamente il supporto a ubuntu, /join #ubuntu-it-chat
[15:20] <krabador> accendino, allora, digita exit, e nel menu precedente, seleziona network
[15:21] <accendino> mi diceva connessione rifiutata
[15:22] <accendino> si è avviato
[15:22] <accendino> ma ha una definizione bassa
[15:23] <krabador> hai scelto "resume" ?
[15:23] <accendino> h0o sbagliato a toccare invio una volta di più
[15:23] <krabador> accendino, riavvia la macchina
[15:24] <accendino> si
[15:24] <krabador> selezione sempre opzioni avanzate
[15:25] <accendino> mo che si avvia
[15:25] <accendino> schermo nero perenne
[15:25] <krabador> e seleziona non la recovery, ma l'avvio normale
[15:25] <krabador> del kernel precedente all'primo in alto nella lista
[15:25] <accendino> se parte
[15:25] <krabador> accendino, come hai riavviato?
[15:26] <accendino> cliccando
[15:26] <accendino> dal desktop
[15:26] <accendino> che si era avviato
[15:26] <accendino> ho cliccato riavvia
[15:27] <accendino> niente ... tutto nero tengo schiacciato il bottone e lo riavvio forzatamente?
[15:27] <krabador> accendino, ctrl alt f1
[15:27] <krabador> fai login testuale, con user name e password
[15:27] <krabador> sudo shutdown -r now
[15:28] <accendino> niente tutto nero
[15:29] <krabador> prova con ctrl alt f2
[15:29] <accendino> l'ho riavviato forzatamente
[15:29] <accendino> mi ha dato il menu
[15:29] <krabador> fa come detto prima
[15:30] <accendino> vediamo se avvia
[15:31] <accendino> lo devo avviare giusto?
[15:31] <accendino> o devo entrare nelle opzioni avanzate?
[15:32] <accendino> si mo ho riletto
[15:32] <accendino> prove failed
[15:32] <accendino> starting version 219
[15:32] <accendino> si avvia
[15:34] <accendino> sembra avviato
[15:35] <accendino> provo a riavviare?
[15:35] <krabador> accendino, no
[15:35] <krabador> apri un terminale
[15:35] <accendino> ok
[15:35] <krabador> è connessa questa macchina adesso?
[15:35] <accendino> sempre con la lan
[15:36] <accendino> collegata
[15:36] <krabador> accendino, connettiti in questa chat
[15:38] <accendino_> si eccomi
[15:38] <krabador> accendino_, bene, allora, da terminale manda sudo apt-get install pastebinit
[15:38] <krabador> accendino_, sudo apt-get update | pastebinit
[15:40] <accendino_> al secondo comando è andato semplicemente a capo
[15:41] <accendino_> ah no
[15:41] <krabador> accendino_, il secondo comando , restituisce un link
[15:41] <krabador> dopo poco
[15:41] <krabador> incollalo qui
[15:41] <accendino_> aspetta un secondo che ti passo una schermata da pastebin
[15:42] <krabador> accendino_, il secondo comando lo fa da solo
[15:42] <krabador> il pastebin
[15:42] <krabador> incolla qui il link che ti ha restituito il secondo comando
[15:43] <accendino_> http://pastebin.com/ZzKw6xnk
[15:43] <accendino_> http://paste.ubuntu.com/10774074
[15:44] <krabador> accendino_, ok, software-properties-gtk
[15:44] <krabador> nella voce "scarica da" , seleziona altro
[15:45] <accendino_> si
[15:45] <accendino_> mi da delle sorgenti da diversi paesi
[15:45] <krabador> seleziona la voce con garr
[15:45] <krabador> chiudi correttamente
[15:45] <krabador> e di nuovo da terminale sudo apt-get update | pastebinit
[15:46] <krabador> aspetta che faccia il link ed incollalo
[15:46] <accendino_> mi dice che non sono aggiornato prima di chiudere o ricarico o chiudo
[15:46] <krabador> chiudi
[15:47] <accendino_> ok
[15:47] <accendino_> http://paste.ubuntu.com/10774163/
[15:51] <krabador> riavvio
[15:51] <krabador> a tra poco
[15:53] <accendino_> kabrador se vuoi rimetto l'ultimo link del pastebin
[15:54] <accendino_> o abbiamo finito?
[15:55] <krabador> accendino_, allora, sempre da terminale, cat /etc/apt/sources.list | pastebinit
[15:55] <accendino_> http://paste.ubuntu.com/10774210/
[15:58] <krabador> accendino_, sudo mousepad /etc/apt/sources.list , metti il # a fianco alle linee deb http://extras.ubuntu.com/ubuntu vivid main deb-src http://extras.ubuntu.com/ubuntu vivid main
[15:58] <krabador> #deb http://extras.ubuntu.com/ubuntu vivid main #deb-src http://extras.ubuntu.com/ubuntu vivid main ----> così
[15:58] <krabador> salvi
[15:58] <krabador> chiudi
[15:59] <krabador> sudo apt-get update | pastebinit
[16:02] <accendino_> okkey
[16:02] <accendino_> http://paste.ubuntu.com/10774256/
[16:03] <krabador> accendino_, sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[16:03] <krabador> accendino_, fai un pastebin dopo , del risultato
[16:04] <accendino_> http://paste.ubuntu.com/10774264/
[16:05] <krabador> accendino_, pastebin di sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[16:07] <accendino_> http://pastebin.com/xBL9t4gi
[16:11] <krabador> ok, accendino_ , riavvia, e riprova ad avviare il primo kernel in alto, che sarebbe l'ultimo installato
[16:11] <accendino_> okkey
[16:11] <krabador> accendino_, se hai schermo nero, hai problema solo con quello
[16:11] <krabador> il che è discretamente possibile con le versioni di prova
[16:11] <krabador> continua ad usare il penultimo, in quel caso.
[16:12] <accendino_> ok mo provo
[16:14] <accendino> ma riuscirei a cambiare versione come prima??? prima avevo ubuntu e mi ha fatto fare la sostituzione del sistema operativo
[16:14] <accendino> anche con lubuntu
[16:15] <accendino> mi da errori con il bluetooth hardware error 0x37
[16:16] <accendino> tra poco devo andare a trigesimo di mio zio
[16:16] <krabador> accendino, ubuntu e lubuntu, installate correttamente , non chiedono di passare ad una versione in sviluppo
[16:16] <krabador> accendino, allora, o ti fai un backup e ti installi una versione stabile
[16:16] <krabador> oppure vai avanti cosi' fino all'uscita della 15.04
[16:17] <krabador> che ti consiglierei comunque di installare da 0
[16:17] <accendino> mo spengo tutto e vado a comprare un disco fisso
[16:17] <accendino> grazie per il tempo che mi hai dedicato
[16:17] <accendino> e grazie a tutti per il supporto che date
[16:17] <accendino> ora esco
[16:18] <accendino> arrangerò con questo
[16:18] <accendino> oppure ci leggeremo prossimamente
[16:18] <accendino> buon proseguimento a tutti
[16:18] <krabador> accendino, se continui a selezionare il penultimo kernel, puoi andare
[16:18] <krabador> sembra non dare problemi
[16:18] <accendino> ah allora così devo fare
[16:19] <accendino> grazie ancora
[16:19] <krabador> accendino, le versioni in sviluppo cambiano kernel quasi giornalmente
[16:19] <krabador> anche piu' volte al giorno
[16:19] <krabador> fino al kernel freeze
[16:19] <krabador> continua ad aggiornare, quando vedi che aggiorna anche il kernel, prova a caricare l'ultimo installato
[16:19] <krabador> vedi se va
[16:20] <krabador> se non va, cotinua con un precedente
[19:31] <akis24> sera
[19:56] <Miquel> ciao a tutti =) sono un neofita di ubuntu 14.04, vengo da windows. Sono ore che cerco di installare un programma trovato su interne
[19:56] <Miquel> t
[19:56] <Miquel> in pratica :
[19:57] <Miquel> ho scaricato un file zip con vari file dentro e non riesco a trovare l eseguibbile
[19:57] <Miquel> in che modo si installano programmi su Ubuntu?
[20:08] <akis24> Miquel: i programmi su ubuntu si installano tramite synaptic " gestore dei pacchetti " o usando il software center
[20:09] <Miquel> e come apro synaptic?
[20:10] <akis24> Miquel: guarda sul menu > sistema e poi leggi qui anche http://wiki.ubuntu-it.org/AmministrazioneSistema/InstallareProgrammi
[20:11] <akis24> Miquel: conoscendo il nome del programma è possibile installarlo anche da terminale
[20:13] <Miquel> e allora a cosa li danno le zip dei programmi linux su internet ?
[20:13] <akis24> Miquel: è sconsigliabile installare programmi non ufficiali potrebbero compromettere il sistema ..
[20:14] <akis24> Miquel: ti ho risposto.. prima della domanda i programmi sono disponibili gia' per essere insttallati senza ricorrere a fonti esterne
[20:14] <akis24> installati*
[20:14] <Miquel> ma poi tutti i software che installo dove vanno a finire?
[20:15] <akis24> Miquel: te li ritrovi installati nel menu dei prpgrammi ovviamente
[20:15] <akis24> programmi*
[20:15] <Miquel> dove li trovo i file?
[20:16] <akis24> Miquel: http://wiki.ubuntu-it.org/AmministrazioneSistema/InstallareProgrammi leggere e capire ...
[20:16] <cristian_c> Miquel, se ti riferisci agli eseguibili, vengono installati in /usr/bin
[20:16] <cristian_c> Miquel, ma il sistema dei pacchetti fa in modo che tu non debba digitare il percorso, se lanciati da terminali
[20:17] <cristian_c> ovviamente li puoi lanciare dalla dash, da menù, da launcher, ecc...
[20:17] <akis24> Miquel: https://help.ubuntu.com/14.04/ubuntu-help/index.html leggi è consigliabile specie per te che cominci ora
[20:17] <Miquel> grazie ho capito quindi quelli sono tutti i file che poi avvio
[20:17] <Miquel> quindi per la cartella copio i file dentro bin
[20:18] <cristian_c> Miquel, il sistema fa in modo di semplificarti la vita
[20:18] <cristian_c> aggiungendo una voce per ogni programma che installi dai repository
[20:19] <Miquel> si ma io sono fatto cosi` per ogni cosa devo capire come funziona per me non esiste c'e` perche c'e`
[20:20] <Miquel> cmq grazie a tutti e due tante grazi grazie per la disponibbilita`
[20:21] <cristian_c> Miquel, leggi la documentazione
[20:21] <cristian_c> Miquel, e troverai una buona parte delle risposte alle tue domande
[20:21] <cristian_c> !documentazione | Miquel
[20:21] <ubot-it> Miquel: Documentazione ufficiale http://help.ubuntu-it.org - Documentazione della comunità http://wiki.ubuntu-it.org/Documentazione - Gruppo documentazione: pagina principale http://wiki.ubuntu-it.org/GruppoDocumentazione
[20:22] <Miquel> ora mi cerco tutti i comandi del terminale sapete dove trovarli ?
[20:23] <cristian_c> !comandi | Miquel
[20:23] <ubot-it> Miquel: trovi i comandi base su http://wiki.ubuntu-it.org/AmministrazioneSistema/ComandiBase - Gestione di File e Directory: http://wiki.ubuntu-it.org/AmministrazioneSistema/ComandiBase#gestionefiledirectory - Terminale e File Manager: http://wiki.ubuntu-it.org/AmministrazioneSistema/RigaDiComando
[20:24] <Miquel> !comandi cosa significa?
[20:24] <ubot-it> Error: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)
[20:24] <cristian_c> Miquel, ti sono stati dati abbondanti informazioni
[20:24] <cristian_c> Miquel, apri i link e buona lettura
[20:25] <Miquel> grazie :)
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[00:01] <ivedci89> hola estoy intentando poner una clave publica para ingresar sin contraseña a mi servidor ssh de red local, y no puedo... siempre me pide contraseña... siendo que con otros ssh locales si funciona...
[00:05] <ferxito3766> hola amigos
[00:06] <ferxito3766> como se puede exportar una instalación de ubuntu para instalarla, tal como la tengo en mi computadora actualmente
[01:04] <ivedci89> mmm en internet esa info esta... pero no se como es el titulo alguna vez leí de eso
[01:05] <ivedci89> ferxito3766
[01:06] <ivedci89> hola no se que toque en lubuntu que ahora el monitor de bateria del panel principal no detecta el tiempo restante de bateria
[06:39] <Drakenex> chicos yo los dejo, hasta mañana =)
[14:16] <Guest2855> hola no puedo instalar programas desde ubuntu center
[14:18] <Guest2855> el boton de instalar siempre e sale en gris
[15:28] <ivedci89> hola he leido un par tutoriales y a demas el help, entendi varias cosas, pero no consigo hacer lo que hace ubuntu one o dropbox entre mis pcs con rsync.... quisiera una especie de Dropbox offline, solo en red local, pues poner una nube a mas de 300GB no es viable por eso busco rsync o similar..
[15:29] <ivedci89> se me ocurrio hacer un script convinando sshfs ssh cp pero tengo el drama de no saber cuando un archivo cambia...
[15:31] <Guest2855> hola no puedo instalar programas desde ubuntu center
[15:31] <Guest2855> el boton de instalar siempre e sale en gris
[15:32] <ivedci89> Guest2855: en la terminal
[15:32] <Guest2855> en la terminalsi me deja instalar pero en el centro de software no
[15:34] <guampa> ivedci89: estas buscando tener un backup en red, sincronizar varias computadoras o tener un almacen compartido sobre la red?
[15:36] <ivedci89> Guest2855: sudo su
[15:36] <ivedci89> apt-get autoremove --force-yes && apt-get update && apt-get upgrade
[15:37] <Guest2855> ya lo intente y sigue igual
[15:37] <ivedci89> guampa: sincronizar dos computadoras... es mi carpeta "Música" lo vengo haciendo a manople por terminal
[15:37] <ivedci89> pero quisiera hacerlo de modo automatico...
[15:37] <guampa> ivedci89: podes usar rsync para eso, tiene opciones para sincronizar cambios nuevos
[15:38] <ivedci89> tal como lo hace Dropbox
[15:38] <Guest2855> E: No se encontró un archivo de réplica «/var/lib/dpkg/»
[15:38] <ivedci89> bueno pero no entiendo que poner....
[15:38] <guampa> o podes usar unison tambien, esta mas orientado a espejar contenido entre computadoras
[15:38] <guampa> rsync es un poco mas general
[15:38] <ivedci89> unison... ¿' veré...
[15:38] <guampa> fijate, cualquier cosa avisame si necesitas ayuda con rsync
[15:39] <guampa> unison nunca lo use pero es bastante popular, no creo que sea complicado
[15:39] <ivedci89> claro noto que rsync es como scp avanzado y nada mas
[15:39] <guampa> algo asi, si
[15:39] <Guest2855> El paquete siguiente no ha sido verificado por su autor. La descarga de paquetes no fiables se ha desactivado en su configuración actua
[15:40] <ivedci89> escuche de inode o algo asi ...que es una caracteristica del kernel que acusa cuando un archivo cambia
[15:40] <guampa> ah inotify, si pero eso es para sincronizar mas o menos en forma instantanea
[15:40] <ivedci89> es lo unico que escuche/lei claro "caracteristica del kernel que acusa cuando un archivo cambia"
[15:41] <ivedci89> ah okk
[15:41] <ivedci89> y eso es un comando o qué?
[15:41] <guampa> no, es una facilidad del kernel para que los programas lo usen
[15:41] <ivedci89> Guest2855: me mataste no se... pero creo que habras tocado los repositorios por eso hay errores.
[15:42] <ivedci89> proba el comando largo que te puse
[15:42] <Guest2855> la lo probe y me da error
[15:42] <Guest2855> y si tiene que ver con los repositorios
[15:42] <ivedci89> guampa: y eso como se consulta desde un script? es posible o solo desde un binario vivo?
[15:43] <guampa> creo que hay programas para sincronizar que monitorean y usan inotify, no tengo ninguno presente
[15:43] <guampa> existen cosas mas sofisticadas para sincronizar en formas mas o menos instantaneas tambien
[15:43] <ivedci89> bueno probare con uniqueseyo... y te cuento
[15:43] <ivedci89> unison
[15:44] <guampa> ivedci89: fijate syncd
[15:44] <guampa> *lsyncd
[15:44] <guampa> ese combina inotify y rsync para sincronizacion en semi tiempo real
[15:44] <ivedci89> claro de eso preguntaba... pero no tengo idea como usarlo...
[15:44] <ivedci89> man syncd???
[15:45] <guampa> lsyncd
[15:45] <ivedci89> aaaaaaahhhhhhhhhh
[15:46] <guampa> esta en APT, asi que podes instalarlo y ver como funciona, nunca lo use
[15:46] <ivedci89> unison ya se instalo
[15:46] <ivedci89> si no me funk como quiero... lo probare a lsyncd
[15:47] <ivedci89> unison es grafico?? o desde terminal
[15:52] <guampa> desde terminal creo
[15:52] <ivedci89> bueno gracias...
[15:52] <ivedci89> aparece una version gtk
[15:52] <guampa> ah mira, si puede ser, hay frontends tambien para rsync
[15:53] <ivedci89> bueno guampa mil gracias, segun la descripcion, es exactamente lo que necesito
[15:54] <guampa> excelente, me alegro entonces :)
[15:54] <ivedci89> Guest2855: estas
[15:54] <ivedci89> cómo sigues?
[16:45] <successus> salud o/
[16:47] <ivedci89> guampa: parece que funciona, pero es un lio configurarlo... un usuario novato terminaría pensando que no sirve, o está mal hecho...
[19:08] <successus> salud, hasta otro rato o/
[19:36] <Lopulus> hola: quiero ver peliculas en FOXPLAY con ozilla y no puedo. me dice que tengo que tengo que obtener http://get.adobe.com/flashplayer/
[19:49] <Lopulus> mime
[19:49] <Lopulus> mimecar,
[19:56] <Lopulus> mimecar,
[19:56] <Lopulus> hola: quiero ver peliculas en FOXPLAY con ozilla y no puedo. me dice que tengo que tengo que obtener http://get.adobe.com/flashplayer/
[20:16] <mimecar__> ahora estoy Lopulus
[20:16] <mimecar__> si la Web usa Flash no te queda más remedio que instalarlo
[20:44] <quark-cha> Acastro
[22:34] <kal_cividFajdida> hi donde consigo lista de canales tv españa , centro america y sur america ?
[22:40] <AcE-Beta> Hola
[23:37] <Drakenex> Hola AcE-Beta
[23:39] <AcE-Beta> :)
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2015-04-08-#juju
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[01:15] <jrandall> I'm hoping someone here might be able to help with a failed `juju upgrade-juju` - I ran it a few hours ago to upgrade from 1.21.1 to 1.22.0, but it failed and now my agent is stuck in an error state
[01:16] <jrandall> (I also emailed [email protected], but thought I'd try here as well)
[06:31] <apuimedo> lazyPower: ping
[06:31] <lazyPower> apuimedo: o/ pong
[06:32] <apuimedo> lazyPower: what kind of timezone are you in?
[06:32] <lazyPower> EDT - but you're on my watch list so i get pings sent to my mobile.
[06:33] <lazyPower> Whats up?
[06:33] <apuimedo> omg, I'm so sorry about that. ping me when you get up in the morning
[06:33] <apuimedo> it's just to discuss about the review you sent me ;-)
[06:33] <lazyPower> No worries mate
[06:33] <lazyPower> I'll be around in ~ 5 or 6 hours.
[06:34] <apuimedo> very well :-)
[06:34] <apuimedo> Enjoy some rest
[08:13] <mwak> hi
[12:55] <vila> I can't 'juju status' anymore on a local deployment I made last week-end
[12:56] <vila> vivid/1.22.0-0ubuntu1 (hmm, upgraded from 1.20 this morning... can this be related ?)
[12:56] <vila> juju status just hangs
[12:56] <vila> what can I do to get some better diagnosis ?
[13:04] <vila> ha
[13:05] <vila> after a long timeout (~10mins given my previous msg ;) juju status dies with: WARNING discarding API open error: unable to connect to "wss://localhost:17070/environment/65ccd21a-868f-42fe-85b2-72084fb6ceb9/api"
[13:05] <vila> some question remains though: how do I debug this further ?
[13:47] <schkovich> vila: do you have a firewall enabled on juju state server?
[13:48] <lazyPower> apuimedo: pong )
[13:49] <lazyPower> :)
[13:49] <vila> schkovich: nope, no firewall
[13:49] <vila> but I was finally able to boot vivid with systemd instead of upstart and I wonder if that may explain it...
[13:50] <lazyPower> vila: systemd wasn't supported until 1.23 - here's a mailing list post on it
[13:50] <lazyPower> https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/juju/2015-March/005072.html
[13:50] <vila> finally == I got a fix this morning so I could stop booting with upstart instead of the default systemd
[13:50] <lazyPower> if you're working with 1.22 - it makes sense that you're running into issues, really sorry about that.
[13:51] <vila> lazyPower: that's expected when running a dev release isn't it ;-) Thanks for confirming, I already feels much better !
[13:52] <lazyPower> well 1.23 is the dev release currently :)
[13:52] <vila> lazyPower: yeah, was referring to vivid but same idea ;)
[13:52] <lazyPower> oh!
[13:53] <lazyPower> good call :D
[13:53] <vila> lazyPower: I was forced to use upstart until today and I didn't realize this could have an impact on juju until I tried 'juju status' ;)
[13:54] <vila> but my juju deployed lxc container did start and works properly
[13:56] <vila> lazyPower: so, I'd like to keep running vivid/systemd, I can re-create my local deployment if needed, will I be able to do that with juju 1.23 knowing that I want to deploy on trusty and precise lxc containers ?
[13:57] <vila> (and I'd prefer to switch back to stable juju asap but that can wait a bit if needed ;)
[13:59] <lazyPower> vila: yeah, 1.23 should be fine for you to use in dev. I'm using it daily here and its been pretty stable but i'm also on trusty
[13:59] <lazyPower> so ymmv - but i know that 1.23 in vivid is better supported than 1.22 - and you get the added benefit of the new features enabled by default like juju actions
[14:00] <lazyPower> upgrading from 1.23 when it lands as stable should be no trouble as well, just juju upgrade-juju
[14:00] <vila> lazyPower: ack, thanks
[16:29] <lfforman> good morning
[16:31] <lfforman> i am new to juju, and i am trying to add an existing DigitalOcean machine to my juju environment, with the add-machine command. my issue is that the ssh port to this server is not the standard port 22, where do I state the ssh port I want to use?
[16:32] <lazyPower> lfforman: great question, let me spin up a DO environment and inspect
[16:32] <lazyPower> 1 moment
[16:32] <lfforman> ok, thanks
[16:45] <lazyPower> lfforman: this is taking a moment, it appears my node(s) are getting hung up in provisioning on DO
[16:45] <lazyPower> sorry about the delay
[16:54] <lfforman> ok
[16:55] <lfforman> lazyPower: I had to get off my computer for a minute i am back
[16:55] <lazyPower> ok, i'm reconfiguring the node to accept ssh on a non standard port atm
[16:55] <lazyPower> finally got my machines out of pending in the DO gui
[16:56] <lfforman> ok
[16:56] <lazyPower> it was strange, it doesn't normally give me fits like this :) it must know i'm up to no good
[16:56] <lfforman> :D
[17:02] <lazyPower> lfforman: i'm not seeing a clear path forward to do this addition,t he command simply errors out with positional arguments :|
[17:02] <lazyPower> http://paste.ubuntu.com/10774659/ is what i'm seeing
[17:04] <lfforman> this is the same result i’ve got
[17:06] <lazyPower> lfforman: https://bugs.launchpad.net/juju-core/+bug/1441749
[17:06] <mup> Bug #1441749: Add-Machine does not support non-standard ssh port <juju-core:New> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1441749>
[17:06] <lfforman> i am going to have lunch, thank you for the help
[17:06] <lazyPower> you may want to mark that bug as affects you so you can follow along with any new developments.
[17:06] <lfforman> ok
[17:07] <lazyPower> sorry about not having good news, cheers mate
[20:44] <apuimedo> lazyPower: hi. I hope it's not too late
[20:47] <lazyPower> o/ apuimedo nope not too late.
[20:47] <apuimedo> good!
[20:49] <apuimedo> lazyPower: I fixed the markdown
[20:49] <apuimedo> moved the .venvs to each charm
[20:49] <lazyPower> yeah :| sorry about that - but you'll thank me when we get this in CI
[20:50] <lazyPower> having the .venv in ../ was going to cause problems
[20:50] <apuimedo> lazyPower: I'm still wondering about if I should just give up and have it all in bazaar
[20:50] <lazyPower> you can still track upstream and vendor into bzr
[20:50] <lazyPower> i wrote a tool fo rthis
[20:50] <lazyPower> https://github.com/chuckbutler/git-vendor
[20:50] <apuimedo> lazyPower: that would come in handy :P
[20:51] <apuimedo> thanks!
[20:51] <apuimedo> The icons I'll handle next week
[20:51] <lazyPower> its relatively new, so if you encounter any bugs with git-vendor bugs are welcome :)
[20:51] <apuimedo> lazyPower: I wish I had time
[20:51] <lazyPower> the changelog support is pending, but tag exports are working well, I've been using it on the docker/kubernetes charms
[20:51] <apuimedo> I'd write a guide on the service framework too
[20:52] <apuimedo> after having read the code
[20:52] <apuimedo> to find the small things
[20:52] <lazyPower> new stuff for that as well - the services framework has some backwords incompatible changes coming that cory_fu will be sending out as soon as the docs are sorted
[20:53] <apuimedo> heh
[20:53] <lazyPower> :S
[20:53] <apuimedo> that sounds like it's going to keep me busy
[20:53] <lazyPower> are you installing charmehlpers from pip?
[20:53] <apuimedo> nope
[20:53] <cory_fu> The changes are not that significant, really
[20:53] <lazyPower> if you're following the embedded pattern no change is required.
[20:53] <apuimedo> I gave up on that
[20:53] <apuimedo> I failed two deployments due to some breaking commit
[20:54] <lazyPower> ouch
[20:54] <cory_fu> The docs for the new version are available here, for comparison, if you want a heads-up: http://big-data-charm-helpers.readthedocs.org/en/latest/
[20:54] <apuimedo> well, a change will be required the next time I want to rebase ;-)
[20:54] <apuimedo> which I'd like to be in the same 6 months cycle as openstack
[20:55] <apuimedo> lazypower: about the purpose of the midonet-repository interface
[20:55] <lazyPower> ah yes, do tell
[20:55] <apuimedo> it's a configuration provider charm
[20:55] <apuimedo> basically, the charms that relate to it
[20:55] <lazyPower> ok, so its essentially an orchestrator for the services, and covers all the charms shared config?
[20:55] <apuimedo> get the repository and release information
[20:56] <cory_fu> Here's a side-by-side comparison of the changes: http://i.imgur.com/lR9Z60W.png I'm hopeful it won't be too onerous
[20:56] <apuimedo> so that they can render that information as part of their puppet hiera.yaml
[20:56] <apuimedo> lazyPower: only the repo info for now
[20:56] <apuimedo> no more shared things
[20:56] <apuimedo> it saves you from having many subordinate deploying going around
[20:57] <lazyPower> i understand why you chose that pattern, makes sense to me
[20:57] <apuimedo> and the rendering is common
[20:57] <apuimedo> so it's not really code duplication, it's similar to charm-helpers embedding
[20:57] <lazyPower> i still have 3 of the midonet charms to look at, but everything i saw in the first three was extremely good - just some minor nit cleanups for the store really.
[20:57] <apuimedo> only that instead of pulling, I push from my git repo into the charms
[20:57] <lazyPower> have you built a bundle for the midonet stack?
[20:57] <apuimedo> lazyPower: thanks ;-)
[20:58] <apuimedo> lazyPower: I'm doing so now
[20:58] <apuimedo> this week
[20:58] <lazyPower> bundle + tests will = quick win during final review
[20:58] <apuimedo> I'm basing it off the openstack bundle
[20:58] <lazyPower> perfect
[20:58] <apuimedo> still fighting some minor issues in some hooks though
[20:58] <lazyPower> thats exactly what I was looking for - to see if you were going to consume the existing openstack bundle, and bolt onto it
[20:59] <apuimedo> yes, something like that
[20:59] <lazyPower> https://jujucharms.com/openstack/ <-- this will become a topic page in the next week or so when the UI Engineering team finishes the release
[20:59] <lazyPower> but i think this is a good place to get started anyway :)
[20:59] <apuimedo> one thing I wanted to ask. To submit my change to charm-helpers and neutron-api I did it in the next branches
[20:59] <apuimedo> so that it would be upstreamed
[20:59] <lazyPower> yep, thats the process - submit against next, the charmhelpers guardians review + release.
[21:00] <apuimedo> but for deployment in production, how crazy is it to deploy that neutron-api?
[21:00] <apuimedo> (my changes over next)
[21:00] <lazyPower> neutron is always the troublemaker for me
[21:00] <apuimedo> lazyPower: s/me/everybody/
[21:00] <apuimedo> :P
[21:00] <lazyPower> ^ that
[21:00] <apuimedo> cory_fu: thanks for the comparison
[21:01] <cory_fu> np. I didn't want you getting scared from what lazyPower said. :p
[21:02] <lazyPower> :D its not untrue
[21:02] <apuimedo> so I think I'll backport the changes to neutron-api for current production
[21:02] <lazyPower> just call me lazy, master of FUD
[21:03] <apuimedo> Fun Understanding and Discipline?
[21:07] <apuimedo> cory_fu: have you considered having the services framework be provided by the agent?
[21:07] <apuimedo> in a juju namespace
[21:07] <apuimedo> from juju.helpers import services
[21:09] <cory_fu> We hadn't, really, no. Seems like the same could be suggested of most of the things in charmhelpers
[21:10] <apuimedo> cory_fu: I think it would make quite a bit of sense
[21:10] <apuimedo> things like hookenv and such
[21:10] <apuimedo> bundled with agent releases
[21:10] <apuimedo> on the same cycle
[21:10] <cory_fu> I don't really disagree.
[21:11] <apuimedo> well, that's almost an agreement :P
[21:12] <blr> cory_fu: how's the service framework refactor going?
[21:13] <cory_fu> I think the main argument against is that Juju is intended to be as language agnostic as possible. So, bundling specific language bindings with the agent, and more so single language only features like the framework, go against that
[21:13] <cory_fu> (Though, I'd also like to work toward making the patterns, at least, of the framework more language agnostic, as well)
[21:15] <cory_fu> blr: Really well. I think it's just about ready to MP against upstream. I linked a preview of the docs for the new version above (http://big-data-charm-helpers.readthedocs.org/) as well as a side-by-side comparison image that I'm going to include in my upgrade path doc (http://i.imgur.com/lR9Z60W.png)
[21:15] <blr> cory_fu: neat, will have a look.
[21:21] <blr> cory_fu: looks good, 'requires', 'callback' and 'cleanup' are clearer.
[21:22] <blr> cory_fu: partial is new presumably?
[21:22] <blr> oh that's from functools, nvm :)
[21:22] <cory_fu> partial is built-in, part of functools
[21:22] <cory_fu> :)
[21:26] <blr> cory_fu: are you working on systemd support yet?
[21:27] <lazyPower> apuimedo: the takeaway is you're almost ready for teh final review? like in the mid to late 90% range?
[21:27] <cory_fu> Nope, but I think that would just involve a change to host.service_*
[21:30] <blr> cory_fu: will that release break the api? By the looks of it, upgrading our charms should be quite easy however.
[21:32] <cory_fu> The new version of the framework will definitely not be entirely backwards compatible, but, as you said, I don't expect the changes required to be too bad. If deemed necessary, we could possibly even come up with a compatibility layer to ease the transition, but I'm reluctant to do that unless really necessary.
[21:33] <blr> cory_fu: ok, will convey that to ci, they've been using the services framework too.
[21:34] <cory_fu> Thanks. Do let me know if a compat layer is something that we should look into
[21:34] <blr> our charms are reasonably simple, but I can't speak for others.
[21:35] <apuimedo> lazyPower: :-)
[21:35] <apuimedo> I'll be as soon as my bundle works
[21:36] <apuimedo> I'd say 90%
[21:36] <apuimedo> probably
[21:36] <apuimedo> lazyPower: not for the amulet part, unfortunately
[21:36] <apuimedo> so the 90% is over-optimistic because of that
[21:37] <lazyPower> Would it be helpful if we sta down and had a quick hour long charm school over amulet tests?
[21:37] <lazyPower> we can riff and start writing tests while pairing
[21:39] <apuimedo> lazyPower: that sounds really good for next week. I'll talk with my team tomorrow morning CEST and I'll shoot you an email ;-)
[21:39] <lazyPower> Sound good, i know for sure theres no way i can do it on Monday - but later on next week it shouldn't be an issue
[21:39] <apuimedo> ;-)
[21:45] <cory_fu> Alright, I have to head out. Got to finish packing to head to Germany tomorrow. :)
[21:46] <apuimedo> cory_fu: have a nice trip
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2015-04-08-#xubuntu
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[00:05] <xubuntu16w> the known applications list in my notification area is blank, does anyone know how to fix this?
[01:24] <elitedeamon> hello
[01:24] <elitedeamon> i need help with triple monitor and setting a primary display anyone help?
[01:28] <Nixus> anyone why youtube videos are lagging on my netbook?
[01:29] <Poisoned_Dragon> what's your netbook?
[01:30] <Nixus> thinkpad x121e
[01:30] <Nixus> "decent"
[01:31] <Nixus> idk, whenever I bump it up to 720p, it goes to 5 fps
[01:33] <Poisoned_Dragon> might be a video driver issue
[01:33] <Nixus> hmm
[01:38] <drc> Nixus: You have trouble watching video @ 720p anywhere else or just Youtube?
[01:38] <Nixus> anything video on the internet
[01:39] <drc> Any video anywhere on the 'net?
[01:39] <Nixus> yes
[01:40] <Nixus> flash player issue?
[01:40] <Nixus> I have tried flash games, 1 fps
[01:40] <Poisoned_Dragon> use chrome?
[01:41] <drc> You said "netbook"...they are notoriously underpowered and Flash is notoriously ravenous...
[01:42] <Nixus> http://www.pcworld.com/product/808324/lenovo-thinkpad-x120e-05962ru-notebook.html
[01:43] <drc> Probably not :)
[01:44] <Nixus> 6410 is OK, though am used to nvidia stuff. I have a 670 4gb on my other machine
[01:44] <Nixus> 6310*
[01:44] <drc> Try this, run another distro's LiveUSB and see if you have the same problem (SolydX has all codecs OOTB).
[01:45] <Nixus> ok, I'll try that out! thanks for the time!
[01:46] <drc> Nixus: The one thing you never said anything about was your Net Connection/ISP. Your Up/Down specs fast enough to run video on the net?
[01:46] <Nixus> yes
[01:46] <drc> OK...best to ask the easy ones first :)
[01:47] <Nixus> speed test says 43 down 9 up
[01:48] <drc> That'll do donkey...that'll do.... :)
[01:48] <Nixus> provider says 100, lol
[01:48] <Nixus> maybe on ethernet
[01:48] <drc> 100 when pigs fly :)
[01:49] <Nixus> :)
[07:22] <xubuntu67w> xubuntu 14.04 can not rotate 90 degree with Intel GMA3600: My video card is Intel integrated GMA3600, when I choose to rotate 90 degrees in "Display Setting", the display show the message "the Signal is Lost". what can I do to support it
[07:27] <xubuntu67w> who can help me?
[07:57] <xubuntu67w> xubuntu 14.04 can not rotate 90 degree with Intel GMA3600: My video card is Intel integrated GMA3600, when I choose to rotate 90 degrees in "Display Setting", the display show the message "the Signal is Lost". what can I do to support it? SOS
[07:58] <cfhowlett> xubuntu67w, ask in
[07:58] <cfhowlett> #ubuntu
[08:00] <xubuntu67w> @cfhowlett ???
[08:01] <cfhowlett> xubuntu67w, ask in the main #ubuntu channel = more eyes
[13:14] <encxu> hi, i want to install xubuntu on usb with full encryption and also to be able to store data (persistence). is it possible and most important how?
[13:15] <ObrienDave> best way is to use the live DVD and install to the USB stick.
[13:15] <ObrienDave> I have several of those
[13:16] <encxu> ObrienDave: should i make partitions first?
[13:16] <ObrienDave> you can use unetbootin or pendrivelinux but the "persistance" is limited for some reason
[13:17] <ObrienDave> not on USB stick. let the installer use the whole USB stick
[13:17] <encxu> i have used unetbootin but it doesn't give me the choice of full encryption
[13:18] <ObrienDave> only from the DVD installer
[13:19] <ObrienDave> boot live DVD. from that desktop install to USB stick using entire drive and encryption
[13:20] <encxu> how about persistance, when i can do that?
[13:21] <encxu> i guess it will do that automatically, as it was a hard disk
[13:22] <ObrienDave> you don't need to if you install like i described. only programs like unetbootin, pendrivelinux and yumi give you a persistence option
[13:22] <encxu> ok, thanks
[13:23] <ObrienDave> the reason is unetbootin, etc. format the stick fat32, where live DVD uses ext4
[15:14] <GeekIrssi> I'm having pretty bad samba configuration issues. Running `sudo apt-get purge samba && sudo apt-get autoremove --purge` didn't actually remove the samba configuration files. What gives?
[15:14] <GeekIrssi> a simple `find / | grep samb` returns that key files such as /etc/samba/smb.conf
[15:15] <GeekIrssi> still exist
[15:26] <GeekIrssi> would it be alright to just delete /etc/samba/smb.conf manually?
[15:28] <elfy> maybe better to rename it? sudo mv /etc/samba/smb.conf /etc/samba/smb.conf.bak or something
[15:29] <GeekIrssi> aha
[15:29] <GeekIrssi> I did `mv /etc/samba /etc/samba.bak` then re-installed samba
[15:29] <GeekIrssi> and now it appears to be working
[15:36] <GeekIrssi> Well, thanks elfy. I've gotta go now
[15:36] <elfy> GeekIrssi: gald it helped :)
[16:20] <kikero> Hey!
[16:23] <kikero> My nm-applet has disappeared from both of my xubuntu laptops some time ago, but I was okay with that as long as it knew to connect to the wifi network I had.
[16:24] <kikero> When I changed places, though, it stopped working.
[16:26] <kikero> What could I do about it?
[16:43] <TimeVirus> where would I find screensaver options in Xubuntu 14.04?
[17:01] <drc> TimeVirus: It's been a while (and I don't have 14.04 installed anymore to check), but seeing as how no one else is answering, I'd start here. http://xubuntu.org/news/screen-locking-in-xubuntu-14-04/
[17:03] <TimeVirus> ok thanks drc
[17:04] <TimeVirus> third from bottom response seems to favor have a television nearby - lol and not what I was thinking about!
[17:07] <TimeVirus> Used to have a very good screensaver that made my monitor look very much like a tropical, saltwater fish tank - did like that one for quite some time
[17:07] <drc> Wish I could help more, but 1) It's been awhile; 2) I never used screensavers anyway, just turn them off and 3) IIRC this was in the middle of the Great Screensaver Controversy :)
[17:07] <TimeVirus> no worries
[17:07] <TimeVirus> not a big deal
[17:08] <TimeVirus> I also like the saving of electroons
[17:08] <TimeVirus> electrons*
[17:09] <drc> Yeah, I hear there's an electron shortage looming on the horizon.
[17:09] <TimeVirus> especially when relying on a limited source of said electrons
[17:09] <TimeVirus> ie: Li-ion electron storage device
[17:10] <drc> Lot's of quarks but an electron shortage :)
[17:10] <TimeVirus> indeed
[17:14] <nate254> I'm getting a couple "System program problem detected" messages at boot. Where can I find out which programs are crashing?
[17:16] <TimeVirus> logs?
[17:17] <elfy> nate254: the crash logs will be in /var/crash if you've not allowed them to be reported
[17:17] <elfy> better to let it try to do so, it *should* stop when it's a dupe
[17:32] <nate254> elfy: thanks. what do you mean by a dupe
[17:34] <elfy> an already reported bug
[17:34] <elfy> it should ask you if you want to 'me too' it
[17:34] <elfy> hard to tell for me - not run a released version for about 5 years
[18:00] <nate254> I wasn't aware that you could get prereleases :P
[18:05] <elfy> nate254: I'll be running what you'll call 15.10 the day after 15.04 releases, you can do that, you can also contribute to what others get in October ;) http://xubuntu.org/contribute/
[18:08] <nate254> Yup. Saw that page. Thats why I'm in #xubuntu-devel :P
[18:08] <elfy> good ;)
[18:09] <nate254> Where'd you find the "15.10" thing though? How does that work? Is it a rolling release structure?
[18:09] <nate254> Coming from arch and gentoo, I'm not sure if I like the idea of having to upgrade every six months. So that would be awesome lol
[19:35] <olamachon> Hey all, Im having an issue with dpkg and am wondering if it is something common. When install Vagrant via deb on 14.10 (kernel 3.17.8), I keep getting 'unable to open x' when unpacking, on different files sometimes. Aside from the kernel upgrade and some dev stuff it's mostly a vanilla install.
[19:35] <knome> a kernel upgrade and some dev stuff (if that means different package versions in use) isn't a small thing really..
[19:36] <olamachon> Haha I guess it's not that small, but I only started yesterday
[19:40] <olamachon> (Started the install)
[19:41] <olamachon> I was planning on downgrading and reinstalling stuff but wanted to see if anyone had any guesses first. I had a bit of ssd troubles a while back, so I don't know
[19:44] <olamachon> Nevermind, I figured out it was the AV
[20:29] <suncokret> which xubuntu is better to use, 14.04 or 14.10?
[20:29] <xangua> 14.04 is LTS, 14.10 is latest
[20:29] <suncokret> i know, which you use?
[20:30] <knome> it depends completely on your usecase
[20:31] <suncokret> i use lubuntu 14.04, maybe i will use xubuntu in future, but i don't know advantages of xubuntu :)
[20:32] <suncokret> if i will not lxqt then i will maybe use xfce
[20:32] <suncokret> *if i will not like lxqt
[20:32] <drc> suncokret: http://xubuntu.org/press/ are some of the reviews about Xubuntu. Asking here will only get you biased answers :)
[20:36] <suncokret> is 14.04 have 5 years support?
[20:36] <drc> IIRC, 3 years
[20:36] <drc> to keep it in line with xfce's support.
[20:38] <drc> LTS is 3 years and all other releases are 9 months.
[20:38] <suncokret> so new LTS it is plan for 16.04 and also 3 years?
[20:39] <drc> Unless things change, yes.
[20:44] <suncokret> i seen that ubuntu lts have 5 years of support, i thought that only lubuntu have 3 years and that xubuntu and kubuntu have 5 years
[20:44] <drc> nope
[20:44] <drc> xubuntu is 3
[20:44] <xangua> the most efforts are put on the main flavor/unity desktop
[20:45] <xangua> and server related packages also have 5 years on LTS
[20:46] <suncokret> i didn't know where to see that, now i find on wikipedia for xubuntu
[20:47] <suncokret> i also see for kubuntu, it have 5 years
[20:47] <Unit193> Basically, things in Main are 5 years, and whichever flavors opt-in for 5. Kubuntu (I believe), and the Unity flavors went for 5, Xubuntu and Lubuntu didn't.
[20:47] <drc> More folks == more workers :)
[20:49] <suncokret> yes, and mint is also 5
[20:51] <drc> TBH, I know very few folks that use xfce that need more than 3 years...server distro's yeah, desktop nope.
[20:52] <drc> Sooner or later they start complaining about out of date apps :)
[20:54] <suncokret> i don't know, i use lubuntu 14.04 and i plan to use it until it have support :)
[20:54] <suncokret> or maybe i will try new version 16.04, and then i will maybe try xubuntu too
[21:19] <ObrienDave> you can try xubuntu now. sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop
[21:25] <suncokret> i was try xfce on lubuntu. It is very similar as lxde.
[22:15] <suncokret> thanks for help, good night
[22:37] <xubuntu39w> I have three computers (two desktops and a really old laptop) running Xubuntu. I wanted to install the same version of Libroffice on all three. The two desktops are 14.10 but the laptop is MUCH older. If I do sudo apt-get install libreoffice in the terminal of the laptop will I still get the latest version of LibreOffice (the same as I'll get from the terminal in the desktops)?
[22:38] <knome> if you are running the same version (14.10) and repositories, then yes
[22:39] <xubuntu39w> That's what I'm saying, the laptop is MUCH older. (It was asking if I wanted to install 14.04)
[22:40] <knome> xubuntu39w, if you are running 12.04 on it, you should upgrade; the support for xubuntu 12.04 ends this month
[22:41] <xubuntu39w> I would upgrade but it's so slow. It might take ten hours. What happens if I don't upgrade?
[22:41] <knome> then you will have no official support
[22:41] <knome> and if bugs arise, they will not be fixed
[22:42] <pleia2> and you can't get new libreoffice on it anyway
[22:42] <knome> true
[22:42] <xubuntu39w> So what will I get?
[22:42] <knome> the latest libreoffice packaged for 12.04
[22:43] <pleia2> the version that came out in 2012
[22:43] <xubuntu39w> And if I upgrade to Trusty Tahr?
[22:43] <pleia2> http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?keywords=libreoffice
[22:43] <pleia2> shows you the versions of packages per release ^^
[22:44] <pleia2> 4.2.7 with 14.04, 4.3.3 with 14.10
[22:44] <knome> (and 3.5.7 for 12.04)
[22:45] <xubuntu39w> I've got 4.2.3.3 on there now (I had to install it manually) so no point in trying to get anything more.
[22:45] <xubuntu39w> I really should get a new laptop. :)
[22:46] <xubuntu39w> knome, pleia, thanks very much for your help!
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