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2015-11-17-#ubuntu+1
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[12:42] <BluesKaj> Hiyas all
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ubuntu-chat
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2015-11-17-#ubuntu-irc
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[00:11] <Unit193> hggdh: Alive?
[00:19] <hggdh> Unit193: still
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ubuntu-chat
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2024-05-13T22:11:18.143811
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2015-11-17-#maas
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[00:07] <los> thetrav: I hear you, for my own sanity, I'm setting something up just like that right now. VirtualBox, on top of (they give me) Windows 7.
[00:07] <los> roaksoax: thanks for the clues!
[00:08] <los> I am using the archive latest version as per roaksoax's suggestions. I want to replicate the 2C+1R setup at home tonite for my own amusement. I've gotten a single 1C+1R working, doing JuJu on it, fine. Want to see the 2C.
[00:12] <los> roaksoax: thetrav: there looks to be a leak of a Django user even if I were to remove the 1.8.3 maas entirely. The 1.9.0rc1 won't install due to the user still being there (mysteriously after (to be weird) remove all the django packages too)...no psql database hanging around either.
[00:15] <thetrav> I tend not to remove packages
[00:15] <thetrav> disposable vm's
[00:15] <thetrav> ansible to get them from OS install to whatever state I need
[00:16] <thetrav> mind you MaaS is a bit shit for that
[00:16] <thetrav> I needed to dig around in their DB to get the API key
[00:28] <los> thetrav: I hear you, I'm just messing around right now. Just rebuilt some more VM's (by hand for now). I'm messing around. Done for now. Thanks for assistance!
[05:56] <nitin_> Please help me with my query at :http://askubuntu.com/questions/698642/how-to-generate-a-custom-image-of-centos-for-maas
[06:19] <mup> Bug #1516891 opened: juju 1.25 misconfigures juju-br0 when using MAAS 1.9 bonded interface <juju-core:New> <MAAS:New> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1516891>
[06:31] <mup> Bug #1516891 changed: juju 1.25 misconfigures juju-br0 when using MAAS 1.9 bonded interface <juju-core:New> <MAAS:New> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1516891>
[06:34] <mup> Bug #1516891 opened: juju 1.25 misconfigures juju-br0 when using MAAS 1.9 bonded interface <juju-core:New> <MAAS:New> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1516891>
[07:59] <mup> Bug #1516891 changed: juju 1.25 misconfigures juju-br0 when using MAAS 1.9 bonded interface <juju-core:New> <MAAS:Invalid> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1516891>
[08:02] <mup> Bug #1516891 opened: juju 1.25 misconfigures juju-br0 when using MAAS 1.9 bonded interface <juju-core:New> <MAAS:Invalid> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1516891>
[08:05] <mup> Bug #1516891 changed: juju 1.25 misconfigures juju-br0 when using MAAS 1.9 bonded interface <juju-core:New> <MAAS:Invalid> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1516891>
[08:08] <mup_> Bug #1516891 opened: juju 1.25 misconfigures juju-br0 when using MAAS 1.9 bonded interface <juju-core:New> <MAAS:Invalid> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1516891>
[08:11] <mup> Bug #1516891 changed: juju 1.25 misconfigures juju-br0 when using MAAS 1.9 bonded interface <juju-core:New> <MAAS:Invalid> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1516891>
[14:27] <vlaza> hello everyone; short question: will there be any HA feature in 1.9.0 version ? I'm interested in relation to region-controller
[14:47] <roaksoax> vlaza: that should come out in 2.0 actually
[14:49] <vlaza> roaksoax: thank you for the info
[15:39] <dimitern> mpontillo, FYI - https://bugs.launchpad.net/maas/+bug/1517097
[15:51] <mup> Bug #1517097 opened: MAAS acquire interfaces argument should AND key-value pairs for the same label <MAAS:New> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1517097>
[16:54] <mup> Bug #1517129 opened: vg has insufficient free disk space <MAAS:New> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1517129>
[19:18] <mup> Bug #1517180 opened: No support for adding custom certificate chains <cloud-installer> <MAAS:New> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1517180>
[19:30] <mup> Bug #1517180 changed: No support for adding custom certificate chains <cloud-installer> <MAAS:New> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1517180>
[19:33] <mup> Bug #1517180 opened: No support for adding custom certificate chains <cloud-installer> <MAAS:Triaged> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1517180>
[21:37] <mup> Bug #1517221 opened: subnet does no longer show DNS servers <MAAS:New> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1517221>
[21:40] <mup> Bug #1517221 changed: subnet does no longer show DNS servers <MAAS:New> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1517221>
[21:46] <mup> Bug #1517221 opened: subnet does no longer show DNS servers <MAAS:New> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1517221>
[22:07] <mup> Bug #1517227 opened: deploy fails with non-default partitioning <MAAS:New> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1517227>
[22:13] <mup> Bug #1517227 changed: deploy fails with non-default partitioning <MAAS:New> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1517227>
[22:22] <mup> Bug #1517227 opened: deploy fails with non-default partitioning <MAAS:New> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1517227>
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2024-05-13T22:11:18.148672
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2015-11-17-#ubuntu-fi
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[10:21] <StockAntenna> nyt lie noin 500 pv 12.04 loppuun
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ubuntu-chat
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2024-05-13T22:11:18.157162
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2015-11-17-#ubuntu-unity
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[08:37] <tsdgeos> cimi: note the new_dash thing breaks at some point because of https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubuntu-ui-toolkit/+bug/1513897
[12:12] <cimi> tsdgeos, can I still approve though? or shall we wait for that fix?
[12:13] <tsdgeos> cimi: given that it's unusable and you can't test it i don't think you should approve it tbh
[12:14] <cimi> tsdgeos, ok, I tested without 1.3 with the previous silo...
[12:14] <cimi> I still have it on my phone
[12:17] <tsdgeos> yeah but that's techinically not what you're approving anymore :D
[12:18] <tsdgeos> i mean it would be quite weird for me to see something approved with such a glaring "bug"
[12:21] <dandrader> mzanetti, what's the name of the "gtk mir" package? couldn't find it.
[12:24] <mzanetti> dandrader, I've no idea yet
[12:30] <cimi> tsdgeos, yeah but we land when is ready, that was the point
[12:30] <tsdgeos> yeah don't know
[12:30] <tsdgeos> as you fele
[12:30] <cimi> if your branch is fine, and depends on another bug...
[12:30] <tsdgeos> feel
[12:31] <cimi> unless you will need to tweak sth else
[12:31] <tsdgeos> not in theroty
[12:31] <tsdgeos> theory
[12:31] <tsdgeos> food!
[12:32] <dandrader> mzanetti, but did you get to run gedit in a "unity8 mir" session?
[12:33] <mzanetti> no, never managed so far
[12:33] <mzanetti> dandrader, christownsend should be able to help
[12:33] <mzanetti> or perhaps the mir people would know too
[13:06] <greyback_> dandrader: gedit -- --desktop_file_hint=gedit works for me
[13:07] <seb128> dandrader, mzanetti, what do you call "gtk mir"? if you are talking about the gdk mir backend it's part of gtk+3.0 itself (libgtk-3-0)
[13:08] <mzanetti> seb128, yes, I think that's what we meant
[13:09] <dandrader> seb128, ok, great
[14:00] <dandrader> mzanetti, could you please try to reproduce https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/unity8/+bug/1515921 ? It's as simple as adding 'X-Ubuntu-Touch=true' to /usr/share/applications/gedit.desktop so that gedit shows up in list of apps in the dash
[14:00] <dandrader> mzanetti, I couldn't reproduce the issue. still see only the qml cursor
[14:00] <mzanetti> dandrader, you can't repro?
[14:00] <dandrader> mzanetti, no
[14:00] <mzanetti> ok, will try
[14:00] <dandrader> mzanetti, I made sure I installed trunk version of qtmir and unity8 on my test laptop. but who knows...
[14:02] <tsdgeos> mterry: ping
[14:02] <mterry> tsdgeos, hi!
[14:03] <tsdgeos> mterry: you did some work to allow "having no text in the infographics" https://code.launchpad.net/~mterry/unity8/handle-empty-infographic-label, right? We don't need to do anything if they revert the libusermetrics change, right?
[14:04] <mterry> tsdgeos, yeah my change was just being more permissive if the library gives us nothing back. If they revert, we should be fine
[14:04] <mterry> tsdgeos, design didn't like it being empty after all?
[14:04] <tsdgeos> mterry: seems so https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-ux/+bug/1514326
[14:04] <mterry> I told them! :)
[14:04] <seb128> that's ridiculous
[14:05] <seb128> mpt, ^ did you see that?
[14:05] <mpt> no
[14:06] <seb128> mpt, can you talk to Magdalena and agree on what should be done?
[14:06] <seb128> it doesn't make much sense to make "no data source available"
[14:07] <mterry> Yeah, I don't like that string either. If we want to use a string, it could be nicer like "Welcome to Ubuntu" or something non-hostile
[14:12] <seb128> or at least something that makes some sense to normal users
[14:12] <mpt> seb128, mterry, apart from this reported bug, are there any problems being caused by the empty text?
[14:12] <seb128> like "no events recorded today"
[14:12] <seb128> mpt, no
[14:12] <mterry> mpt, no
[14:20] <mpt> seb128, ok, I checked with Ben and wontfixed it
[14:20] <seb128> mpt, thanks!
[14:20] <seb128> tsdgeos, ^ less work ;-)
[14:21] <tsdgeos> well it's weird since magdelna said exactly the reverse
[14:21] <tsdgeos> but oh well less work is good
[14:22] <mpt> tsdgeos, not her fault, she was misinformed
[14:25] <seb128> Saviq, pete-woods, is https://code.launchpad.net/~pete-woods/camera-app/file-based-infographics/+merge/210573 / https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/client-1410-unity-ui-infographics still a thing?
[14:30] <tsdgeos> seb128: Saviq's on holidays for like a week more
[14:30] <seb128> tsdgeos, thanks, confusing those people who let IRC going with their normal nickname when they are not there ;-)
[14:31] <seb128> pete-woods, is https://code.launchpad.net/~unity-api-team/camera-app/infographics-translations/+merge/250616 something you plan to follow up on?
[14:38] <pete-woods> seb128: to the first question. I'm not sure. it was something that was tasked by my old manager, and he's not here now
[14:38] <pete-woods> seb128: to the second thing, ideally yes
[14:39] <seb128> pete-woods, the second one there is a merge request for the translation thing up, so maybe you should prod Kaleo for review ;-)
[15:03] <mterry> dandrader|afk, hey at some point if you could look at https://code.launchpad.net/~mterry/unity8/tutorial-redesign/+merge/271342 in terms of the changes I made to the DDA, I'd appreciate it. That MP is not ready for a full review yet, but the DDA stuff likely won't change unless you want it to. It seems to work for me
[15:24] <dandrader> mterry, ok
[16:00] <tsdgeos> oh my
[16:00] <tsdgeos> why i can't never run an unity8 desktop session :/
[16:00] <tsdgeos> i'm always getting crashes or aborts or whatnot :/
[16:06] <tsdgeos> mzanetti: ltinkl: do you guys use the distro packaging when running unity8 as a session? i'm getting an abort with a stack trace pointing to start_thread :S
[16:07] <mzanetti> tsdgeos, yes, I install unity8-desktop-session-mir and run that
[16:07] <mzanetti> then I modify QML files in place to test things
[16:07] <mzanetti> or rather, I use this script to install a working directory: http://paste.ubuntu.com/13314241/
[16:08] <tsdgeos> hmmm
[16:08] <tsdgeos> i have that package
[16:08] <mzanetti> tsdgeos, fwiw, I'm still on v+o
[16:08] <mzanetti> but I think lukas is on x
[16:09] <mzanetti> tsdgeos, anyhow, try reinstalling the unity8 package
[16:09] <mzanetti> tsdgeos, also make sure you don't have old mir libs around. I remember at some point I had problems because of that
[16:09] <mzanetti> tsdgeos, what graphics chip do you have?
[16:10] <tsdgeos> intel
[16:10] <mzanetti> hmm... same here. should work
[16:10] <tsdgeos> mzanetti: the bug you mention about the dash coming up empty, does it only happen in unity8 as a session or also happens on other desktop if you just do "start unity8-dash"?
[16:10] <tsdgeos> and/or start unity8
[16:38] <tsdgeos> mzanetti: dandrader: i get graphical glitches on the cursor on my laptop when on the unity8 greeter, known?
[16:45] <tsdgeos> mzanetti: dandrader: here the photo http://i.imgur.com/jnHMNn2.jpg
[16:47] <dandrader> mzanetti, yeah, I have seem it once or twice before. but it's been a long while since it last happened. I think it happened with the fallback cursor only. do you have the DMZ cursor theme installed there?
[16:48] <dandrader> tsdgeos, ^
[16:48] <tsdgeos> dandrader: maybe not, what's the package name?
[16:48] <dandrader> tsdgeos, it was so hard to reproduce that I forgot about it
[16:48] <dandrader> tsdgeos, dmz-cursor-theme
[16:49] <dandrader> tsdgeos, you must have it as Unity 7 uses it
[16:49] <tsdgeos> yeah i do
[16:49] <tsdgeos> dandrader: i can repro all the time
[16:50] <tsdgeos> also the mouse is like ultra slow inside the unity8 session compared to outside it
[16:50] <tsdgeos> is this something we control somehow?
[16:54] <mterry> mzanetti, guh, stupid admin password idea
[16:54] <mzanetti> mterry, indeed
[16:55] <mzanetti> mterry, well, I guess I'm ok with disconnecting the lockscreen from the user's passwort
[16:55] <mzanetti> mterry, but putting that in the welcome wizard seems quite odd
[16:55] <mterry> mzanetti, well I think that's a very advanced user feature yeah
[16:55] <mzanetti> yes, should be in the developer mode options
[16:56] <mterry> mzanetti, but mostly it seems crazy to keep allowing apps to brute force passwords. And if stop them from doing that, I don't see the need for this change
[16:56] <mzanetti> kgunn, do you know about that requirement and where it came from / how official it is?
[16:56] <mzanetti> apparently we have to add a username, lockscreen code and sudo password stuff into the welcome wizard
[16:57] <mzanetti> which seems wrong to me when thinking about regular joe
[16:57] <mterry> mzanetti, (they wanted the username?)
[16:57] <mzanetti> didn't she say?
[16:57] <mterry> mzanetti, I might have missed that
[16:57] <mterry> mzanetti, maybe need it for sure once they go multi-user, and she was thinking down that road, but I don't know if she said she wanted it now or then
[16:58] <mzanetti> mhm
[16:58] <mzanetti> mterry, otoh, on a Ubuntu Desktop we've been asking those things too since forever
[16:58] * kgunn reads a little
[16:58] <mzanetti> not saying that it's great on a phone, but thinking convergence...
[16:59] <mterry> kgunn, we were just told by Patricia that there is a new requirement that we ask users for an admin password
[16:59] <mterry> kgunn, in response to the "brute force" attack by apps on the password
[16:59] <kgunn> mzanetti: mterry ...yeah that's news to me
[17:00] <mterry> kgunn, but that seems like a very odd response to that attack
[17:00] <kgunn> mterry: probably best to see if jdstrand is pushing this
[17:00] <mterry> yah
[17:00] <kgunn> maybe convince him it's overkill ?
[17:01] <mterry> mzanetti, kgunn: moving to #ubuntu-touch
[17:01] <kgunn> altho..he's a sec guy...overkill is sort of the idea :)
[17:06] <dandrader> tsdgeos, reboot and try again if you see the corruption? :-D
[17:06] <dandrader> the Windows(tm) way :)
[17:08] <tsdgeos> dandrader: yeah did reboot like 3 or 4 times
[17:08] <tsdgeos> since i was trying to figure out why it crashes after inputting the password on the lock screen
[17:08] <tsdgeos> get it all the time
[17:09] <tsdgeos> dandrader: any pointer on what may be wrong if i want to put some time on it?
[17:11] <dandrader> tsdgeos, the only thing that can be going wrong is the logic that loads the xcursor image into a QImage
[17:11] <dandrader> tsdgeos, in plugins/Cursor/CursorImageProvider.cpp
[17:12] <tsdgeos> dandrader: oki, i'll see if i can repro tomorrow
[17:13] <tsdgeos> eod now
[17:13] * tsdgeos waves
[17:14] <dandrader> mterry, DDA changes in lp:~mterry/unity8/tutorial-redesign look fine
[17:16] <mterry> dandrader, awesome, thanks
[17:16] <mterry> will quote you in the MP :)
[17:17] <dandrader> mterry, only unsure about the property name. Because it will work all the same, only difference is that it won't claim ownership over the touch point once it recognizes it's performing a gesture
[17:17] <mterry> dandrader, yeah. I'm happy to rename it. Got something you like better?
[17:20] <dandrader> mterry, no :)
[17:23] <dandrader> mterry, btw SwipeArea just got merged into uitk staging branch
[17:23] <mterry> dandrader, that's the new name for DDA? cool
[17:23] <dandrader> mterry, yes
[17:23] <mterry> dandrader, so bad time to be futzing with DDA :)
[17:24] <dandrader> mterry, getting the same change into UITK might not be so easy :)
[17:25] <mterry> dandrader, well long term plan is to get the bottom edge part of the tutorial into the UITK and into apps themselves eventually
[17:25] <mterry> dandrader, so maybe we just carry DDA for a bit longer until that happens
[17:25] <dandrader> mterry, hmm, so why don't you work already on top of uitk's staging branch?
[17:26] <dandrader> mterry, or is there some other prerequisite missing for this change?
[17:26] <dandrader> (ie, having bottom edge tutorial into uitk)
[17:27] <mterry> dandrader, design isn't super ready for that portion yet, and they want to land the broader tutorial changes sooner rather than later
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2024-05-13T22:11:18.163079
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2015-11-17-#ubuntu-us-pa
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[10:26] <rmg51> Morning
[13:19] <teddy-dbear> Morning peoples, critters and everything else
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ubuntu-chat
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2024-05-13T22:11:18.167153
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2015-11-17-#ubuntu-news
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[17:47] * Na3iL is away: AFK
[17:49] <pleia2> Na3iL: can you please turn that off for this channel?
[18:26] <Na3iL> pleia2, yep sure sorry :)
[18:33] <pleia2> thanks :)
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ubuntu-chat
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2024-05-13T22:11:18.168011
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"Na3iL",
"pleia2"
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2015-11-17-#ubuntu-gr
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[00:32] <linux_salonica> /msg NickServ identify bsxjtsx5
[08:24] <Tassos> Καλημέρα! :)
[08:26] <Tassos> Συνδέομαι από κάπου παιδιά στο internet και έχω τρομερή ταχύτητα ( 40Μbps download και 30 upload π.χ. )
[08:26] <Tassos> αλλά από torrent κατεβάζει με 207 kb/s :P γιατί έτσι; Ο ISP να μου την κάνει; Να με περιορίζει ;
[13:14] <athina> yparxei kapia entolh se terminal poy na epanaferei ta menoy stin mpara ergasion stin proepilegmeni morfi?
[13:14] <athina> se lubuntu
[13:24] <kerato> https://askubuntu.com/questions/64631/how-to-restore-the-default-lubuntu-panel
[18:40] <Euaki> Νέα από ubuntusecurity: USN-2813-1: LXCFS vulnerabilities <http://www.ubuntu.com/usn/usn-2813-1/>
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ubuntu-chat
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2024-05-13T22:11:18.173163
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"Euaki",
"Tassos",
"athina",
"kerato",
"linux_salonica"
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2015-11-17-#ubuntu-community-team
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[07:50] <dholbach> good morning
[08:58] <davidcalle> Morning o/
[08:59] <popey> yo
[09:28] <dholbach> hey popey, hey davidcalle
[09:28] * dholbach is off to the post office to send in his mx4 for repairs :-/
[09:32] <davidcalle> dholbach, what happened
[09:32] <davidcalle> ?
[09:33] <dholbach> one day the screen started flickering, now it doesn't turn on
[09:33] <dholbach> it still vibrates when starting and everything, but it the screen stays black
[09:34] <dholbach> all right.. back in a bit
[11:43] <dholbach> relocating to the office, bbiab
[12:00] <czajkowski> aloha
[12:57] <dholbach> davidcalle, how are the deployments looking? :)
[12:57] <davidcalle> dholbach, requested one yesterday evening, waiting for an update
[12:58] <dholbach> davidcalle, that's gadget-snaps-for-prod or upgrade-for-staging? :)
[12:58] <davidcalle> dholbach, gadget-snaps-for-prod (which looks great on staging btw :)
[12:59] <dholbach> <3 <3 <3
[12:59] <davidcalle> dholbach, one bug is : if the old plugin is used on a page, when the update is applied, the page is dead and crashes when you try to edit/display it.
[13:00] <davidcalle> dholbach, so, I've removed the plugin from the gadget prod page, and just copy-pasted the html that was generated by the plugin
[13:01] <dholbach> wow
[13:01] <dholbach> :-(
[13:01] <dholbach> I wonder why that is
[13:01] <dholbach> do we have a backtrace or something?
[13:01] <davidcalle> dholbach, nope, but I'm guessing it's just a matter of plugin removal from the db not being handled gracefully by django
[13:02] <dholbach> hey ... maybe that's fixed with a newer django :-P
[13:03] <davidcalle> dholbach, or, we never change plugin Class names :)
[13:03] <dholbach> sounds like a good plan
[13:04] <davidcalle> dholbach, on an unrelated note, already 7 judges confirmed for the scopes showdown :)
[13:05] <dholbach> awesome :-D
[13:06] <dholbach> davidcalle, do you think it's doable to get the upgrade branch up on staging for testing on thursday afternoon or is the process more involved and it will take longer?
[13:11] <davidcalle> dholbach, should be fine, but do you think we could create a new Makefile command (or a script), that runs the migration process?
[13:12] <dholbach> davidcalle, I guess we can
[13:12] <dholbach> davidcalle, I'll see what I can do
[13:12] <davidcalle> dholbach, if you have a full plate already, I don't mind doing it
[13:13] <dholbach> no, no - I wanted to do another round of testing anyway
[13:13] <davidcalle> dholbach, ok :)
[13:14] <dholbach> just to triple check that the recent migrations changes didn't break anything else
[13:46] <balloons> Morning
[13:47] <popey> heya
[14:00] * popey pokes balloons and jose
[14:01] <popey> also, dpm mhall119 dholbach - who's doing Q&A this week (me and dholbach did last week :D)
[14:01] <jose> popey: pc is turning on
[14:01] <popey> kk
[14:02] * balloons is waiting on google
[14:02] <dpm> I'm happy to do it today
[14:03] <dpm> balloons, davidcalle, mhall119, any of you up for it too?
[14:04] <popey> balloons, jose http://pad.ubuntu.com/GoogleCodeIn2015
[14:10] <mhall119> I can be on today too
[14:17] <dholbach> davidcalle, dpm: https://developer.ubuntu.com/en/snappy/guides/gadget-snaps/
[14:19] <dholbach> I'm wondering where to put the short list
[14:20] <samsruti> Hey popey :D
[14:20] <popey> hey samsruti !
[14:20] <dholbach> davidcalle, maybe at the bottom of /snappy/start(?) with a link to the long list?
[14:20] <davidcalle> dpm, I can't, it's too early for me today :/
[14:21] <dholbach> davidcalle, or at the bottom of /snappy?
[14:21] <samsruti> i got 2 days holidays for my next exam :P
[14:21] <davidcalle> dholbach, yes, I have this code ready :) let me have a try
[14:22] <davidcalle> dholbach, you are better than IS to keep me updated on the status of my RTs :p
[14:22] <dholbach> ;-)
[14:23] <dholbach> davidcalle, can bug 1463079 be closed?
[14:24] <davidcalle> dholbach, it can, even if there are still one small stuff to debug on this front...
[14:24] <dholbach> ok
[14:25] <dpm> davidcalle, dholbach, it seems the margins don't look quite right on the gadgets page. The boxes extend to the edges
[14:25] <davidcalle> dpm, yep, I'm on it :)
[14:25] <dholbach> thanks davidcalle
[14:26] <dpm> thanks davidcalle
[14:28] <davidcalle> dpm, dholbach, better?
[14:29] <dholbach> davidcalle, nice work!
[14:29] <dpm> davidcalle, looks great now. How do you actually do the changes? I thought that the boxes themselves were defined in code?
[14:29] <dholbach> davidcalle, where do you suppose we put the short list?
[14:29] <dholbach> davidcalle, https://code.launchpad.net/~developer-ubuntu-com-dev/developer-ubuntu-com/1470715/+merge/268471 is up to date and tested now
[14:31] <davidcalle> dpm, dholbach, they aren't anymore, well, the size isn't. Now, these two plugins should be used in twelve-col or row divs.
[14:31] <dholbach> hum
[14:31] <dholbach> so we don't use the plugin?
[14:32] <dpm> yeah, I'm a bit confused too
[14:33] <davidcalle> dholbach, not directly, but inside a text or raw html plugin. The reason is to avoid having a big padding/margins on top and bottom, since we want to integrate them nicely into text (eg. intro text like on this page), or link to "see more" that can be used with the shortlist
[14:34] <dholbach> ah ok
[14:34] <dholbach> now I see it
[14:34] <dholbach> thanks!
[14:35] <davidcalle> I was against doing it this way at first, but, it's actually much more flexible
[14:36] <davidcalle> dholbach, so, the sortlist, iirc was supposed to be at the bottom of snappy/
[14:36] <dholbach> ok
[14:36] <dholbach> yep, sounds good
[14:36] <dholbach> I'll take a look at it
[14:36] <dpm> davidcalle, ok, looking good. Could you go through the rest of the points we discussed for the long list at http://pad.ubuntu.com/gadget-page-feedback?
[14:36] <davidcalle> dholbach, see the top part of http://imgur.com/LZvpCW7
[14:37] <dholbach> nice :)
[14:39] <davidcalle> dpm, hum, forgot about this, this deployment doesn't contain everything from this list.
[14:39] * davidcalle opens bug
[14:39] <dpm> ok, thanks
[14:40] <dholbach> yes, a bug would be best - I can take care of some of the bits in there too
[14:41] <dholbach> davidcalle, shall I take care of it?
[14:41] <davidcalle> dholbach, no need, I'll have a branch ready later today
[14:42] <dholbach> ok
[14:57] <dpm> balloons, mhall119, so any of you is up for the Q&A today?
[14:59] <balloons> mmm.. I could be persuaded I guess
[14:59] <balloons> :-)
[15:02] * popey gets The Persuader.
[15:03] <popey> I like that googling for The Persuader turns up swords, comic book characters, and this picture:- http://members.iinet.net.au/~peterr2/marine/persuader.jpg
[15:03] <popey> Which is what I actually meant :)
[15:04] * mhall119 is up for it
[15:08] <balloons> popey, lol!
[15:08] <balloons> careful what you input for google image search
[15:14] <balloons> ok, mhall119, dpm. I'll let you handle it. But I've updated the page and I'll schedule the hangout
[15:16] <popey> remember to set the right channel on the on air page
[15:16] <popey> it was set to plenary last time we used it
[15:17] <balloons> channels=ubuntu-on-air :-) And thank you for reminding
[15:20] <mhall119> dpm: mind if we skip our meeting in ~10min, I think we covered everything yesterday
[15:21] <dpm> mhall119, sure
[15:54] <jcastro> mhall119: are you using unity8 on the desktop at all?
[15:56] <mhall119> jcastro: not yet, need more apps
[15:56] <jcastro> hmm, mine doesn't sign in, like I get past lightdm and I see the desktop and launcher, but I can't seem to get past the lock screen
[16:11] <davidcalle> dholbach, I have a small template change that fixes the look of "install on this device" links according to dpm suggestions (removal of tick + ›), any issue with me pushing it to trunk directly?
[16:13] <dholbach> no, please go ahead :)
[16:14] <davidcalle> dholbach, ty :)
[16:15] <dholbach> awesome
[16:34] <dholbach> davidcalle, I pushed https://code.launchpad.net/~dholbach/developer-ubuntu-com/rework-importer/+merge/277722 - which is still WIP, but I wanted to get it up there, so we can maybe look at it together at some stage :)
[16:37] <davidcalle> dholbach, <3. On this topic, any new update from django upstream?
[16:38] <dholbach> no
[16:38] <dholbach> but I'm breaking up the importer to be more modular anyway, so it should be easier to debug too
[17:01] <dholbach> all right - I call it a day - see you all tomorrow!
[17:36] <barna> People leave, someone you know and / or have contact who maintains the site ubuntu-br.org ??
[17:36] <barna> her for this download Ubuntu 14.10 that has been discontinued, many new users having trouble for not knowing / know the launch time and maintaining version.
[17:39] <balloons> popey, jose so there is an old gsoc mailing list and freenode channel. Should we revive, ignore, bury, or ?
[17:39] <jose> balloons: I'd personally prefer to keep it on -community-team
[17:40] <balloons> that's the intent. I'm leaning towards deprecating it altogether.. I'm concerned about having the old channel and list around might attract people and confuse
[17:41] <jose> IRC we can easily remove
[17:41] <jose> ML we'd need to ping IS
[18:15] <wxl> hey folks. is anyone currently maintaining responsibility for the locoportal?
[18:16] <wxl> pablo and myself are both waiting on being added to the devs
[18:16] <wxl> i just filed a few bugs
[18:51] <mhall119> wxl: daker was the lead developer on loco portal
[18:51] <wxl> mhall119: 'was' being the operative word XD
[18:52] <daker> wxl: sorry about that
[18:53] <wxl> daker: no problem. if you're the guy, great. if not, getting someone else would be great.
[18:54] <daker> wxl: I will do
[18:54] <wxl> daker: thx! perhaps giving the loco council admin access might be useful?
[18:55] <mhall119> wxl: ltp ownership has changed multiple times over the years, daker is just the most recent
[18:55] <mhall119> wxl: loco council should have extra privileges on LTP
[18:55] <daker> The first thing we need to do is to migrate to a newer stable version
[18:55] <mhall119> daker: you mean the ancient version of django LTP uses isn't cutting it anymore? :)
[18:55] <mhall119> what is it, 1.3 or something?
[18:55] <wxl> hehehe
[18:56] * wxl just filed a couple bugs
[18:56] <mhall119> daker: FYI, IS is probably going to want it charmed and mojo-speced before doing major updates
[18:57] <daker> Unfortunately yes we are still an unsupported version 1.3
[18:57] <wxl> mhall119: while i got your attention, if i wanted to make a feature request to our (ubuntu's) online toolset (namely kanboard), would i run that through the cc or just email it (well, rt) directly?
[19:00] <mhall119> wxl: if it's a technical thing, just go directly to RT
[19:00] <wxl> mhall119: okie dokie. thx.
[19:29] <wxl> hehehe
[19:29] <wxl> oops wrong channel
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2015-11-17-#ubuntu-hr
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[00:59] <boorgy> pozdrav
[01:04] <boorgy> Koristi li netko openSUSE? OpenSUSE mi je po defaultu postavio file system / particije na BtrFS. Da to stavim na Ext4 ili da ostavim tako?
[01:12] <boorgy> ok pronašao odgovor
[01:12] <boorgy> https://delightlylinux.wordpress.com/2015/03/12/which-is-faster-btrfs-or-ext4/
[07:42] <BotaniCar> Veli kolega "upgradeao sam dokument" ... kad mu ja dam po tintari ..
[07:42] <BotaniCar> Jutro, junaci
[07:46] <Mmike> Good Morning!
[07:47] <Mmike> Erm, krivo
[07:47] <Mmike> Dobro jutro :D
[07:53] <BotaniCar> Mmike: ja sam tak gladan od tvojih FB statusa :)
[07:54] <Mmike> mater
[07:55] <Mmike> prekuhale mi se hrenovke
[07:57] <BotaniCar> Odi proch, sad sam jos gladniji !
[07:57] <BotaniCar> Si u uredu ili doma ?
[07:57] <BotaniCar> ( u uredu :) )
[08:08] <Mmike> u uredu
[08:08] <Mmike> kenny08: mirka: ładny poranek! :)
[08:08] <Mmike> kenny08: mirka: kad se Tata vraca?
[08:08] <kenny08> Kaj?
[08:08] <BotaniCar> Ćaća !
[08:09] <kenny08> sljedeci tjedan
[08:10] <kenny08> Hvala, i tebi Mmike
[08:10] <mirka> hahaha jutro mmike :)
[08:11] <Mmike> pa jebem ga ja, ne javloja se na privatne mejlove, na sluzbene mejlove, morat cu pokrenut po sluzbenoj duznosti...
[08:12] <BotaniCar> Cek, kaj se vi i sexate u firmi ? Ima slobodnih mjesta ? :)
[08:21] <Mmike> ma ne
[08:21] <Mmike> meni to ostalo iz prijasnje firme
[08:22] <Mmike> nikak se priviknit :)
[08:39] <dodobas> yutro
[08:46] * BotaniCar biljezi koliko ce mmike firmi promijeniti prije nego ga puste porno navike :)
[08:47] <Mmike> nadam se da me nece pustiti porno navike
[08:47] <Mmike> i da necu puno firmi mijenjat
[08:50] <BotaniCar> Vis, nisam ni ja vec dugo :) Doduse, jos uvijek imam vise stambilja u radnoj knjizici od umalo bilo koga drugog kog poznam :)
[08:56] <pkiller> dan
[08:56] <pkiller> BotaniCar: ti si poslijednji čovjek u hrvatskoj sa radnom knjižicom :)
[08:56] <BotaniCar> pkiller: to ti je ko piJonirska, tko ima - cuva
[08:59] <pkiller> to to :)
[08:59] <BotaniCar> https://www.schneier.com/blog/archives/2015/11/paris_attacks_b.html # Šnejer opet jaši ! :)
[09:02] <jelly> schneierfacts.com ?
[09:03] <BotaniCar> dzizs, ti ili ispalis imgur link ujutro ili nadjes nesto kao ova stranica da mi sjebes produktivnost za taj dan :)
[09:07] <Mmike> "Bruce Schneier's ATM pin is the last four digits of Pi."
[09:07] <Mmike> :))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))
[09:16] <BotaniCar> Bruce Schneier deduced the state of Schrödinger's cat. It is Oklahoma. :)
[09:20] <BotaniCar> Ovi iz agrokora su nekad tak' jebeni , frajeri imaju tvrtku "agrokor energija" koja iz poljoprivrednih nusprodukata proizvodi energiju ( http://www.agrokor.hr/hr/vijesti/dovrsen-kompleks-mitrovac-investicija-vrijedna-220-milijuna-kuna/ )
[09:21] <BotaniCar> Napravili bioplinsku elektranu od 2MW <3
[09:28] <dodobas> Mmike: da ti se nadam onda danas ili ne... vrijeme je
[09:30] <jelly> BotaniCar: od nekih stvari se ni hrenovke ne mogu radit
[09:31] <BotaniCar> nagradno pitanje: da jelly i BotaniCar imaju farmu na kojoj zele postaviti 2MW elektranu, koliko inspekcija bi ih zatvorilo prije polaganja kamena temeljca ?
[09:32] <jelly> ne bi u zivotnom vijeku uspjeli skupiti 967 potrebnih papira od drzave
[09:32] <Mmike> dodobas: ne :(((
[09:32] <dodobas> Mmike: dobro da znam :)
[10:39] <SilverSpace> dan
[10:41] <BotaniCar> Srce ti i javu ! U stvari, ne znam jel bi psovao (SUN/Oracle)javu,centos ili sebe :) A nemrem prec na openjdk zbog one tri instrukcije koje nema :)
[10:41] <dodobas> BotaniCar: koje to ?
[10:41] <BotaniCar> Uglavnom, promijenila se verzija ( ja azurir'o ) , a poslovnoj aplikaciji nisam rekao da trosi novu verziju. A sveskup je tak slozeno da nemrem samo novu verziju linkat na /nekaj/java
[10:42] <BotaniCar> dodobas: kajaznam koje, tak sam dobio depeshu.
[10:42] <dodobas> a to je java... cross-platform specific :)
[10:42] <BotaniCar> :) :)
[10:42] <dodobas> ko onaj ISVU sustav... sve su u javi napravili... radi samo na windowsima ... hebo ih
[10:43] <BotaniCar> Velim, da bas moram biti posten ( ne moram) mozda bi prvo vikao na sebe jer hardkodiram stvari :)
[10:46] <SilverSpace> jaj koje pizdarje sa bolnicom i majkom
[10:46] <SilverSpace> treba ljecnjicku njegu a nece je drzati u bolnici
[10:50] <SilverSpace> lol http://www.izivibe.com/
[10:51] <BotaniCar> SilverSpace: kak mislis nece je drzati, treba dnevnu skrb ili ljecnicku njegu ? AFAIK te iz bolnice nece pustiti ako trebas ljecnicku njegu.
[10:55] <BotaniCar> https://youtu.be/AapKU62kYm4 # The Heavy FTW !
[10:55] <datase> YouTube: Sin City - Ain't No Place For A Hero - 0:04:07 - 245002 views - 1245 likes / 30 dislikes
[10:56] <SilverSpace> BotaniCar: nece makar je nepokretna i prima infuziju plszmu svakodnevno
[10:57] <BotaniCar> Onda treba dnevnu njegu. Infuzija se ne racuna kao potreba za kontinuiranom ljecnickom pomoci. Pripremi novcanik za staracki s bolnickim krevetima i ne pitaj kak znam :(
[10:58] <SilverSpace> BotaniCar: da znam nasli vec
[10:58] <BotaniCar> Kol'ko to sad kosta ?
[10:58] <BotaniCar> Mi smo za moju baku placali u visini mamine place pred ~7 godina
[10:58] <SilverSpace> ovdje na okretistu u dubcu 4200
[10:58] <BotaniCar> Nda, isto je ostalo, taman previse ..
[10:59] <SilverSpace> ima do 5800
[10:59] <BotaniCar> ma, ima do koliko god imas para, znam. Pitam za ove u koje i mi smrtnici smijemo :)
[11:00] <BotaniCar> Znanac u Bjelovaru otvorio staracki s dva bazena. Grad Bjelovar planira gradnju dodatnog bazena vec 20+ godina :)
[11:00] <SilverSpace> ima i bolnice na racun hzzoa ali je duga resa i novi marof
[11:00] <SilverSpace> sto ne dolazi u obzir
[11:00] <BotaniCar> Taman da imas griznju savjest ako ju posaljes
[11:01] <BotaniCar> Odnosno, za bankrot ako ju ne posaljes :)
[11:01] <SilverSpace> previse za troskovi i druge pizdarje
[11:01] <SilverSpace> predaleko
[11:02] <SilverSpace> kaj bi sad sestra trebala napustit posao
[11:02] <SilverSpace> koja zajebancija
[11:03] <SilverSpace> za doma nemamo nikakve uvjete drzati je
[11:03] <SilverSpace> nemoze sam bit
[11:04] <SilverSpace> BotaniCar: znas samo koliko tih starackih ima hrpetina
[11:05] <BotaniCar> Imas dve opcije, biraj manje zlo, kaj da ti velim :(
[11:06] <SilverSpace> ma nema nam druge tu je najblize smjestiti
[11:06] <SilverSpace> i placat
[11:06] <BotaniCar> To je , ako imate para, super opcija. bed je ako nemate.
[11:06] <SilverSpace> 2100 je njena mirovina
[11:07] <SilverSpace> nekako cemo se pokrit mora se
[11:07] <BotaniCar> :) Dobro je kaj ti sister dela, a i ti imas neka primanja. Znam gro obitelji koje 4500kn ne mogu izmislit' ni da im zivot o tom ovii
[11:07] <BotaniCar> *ovisi
[11:07] <SilverSpace> putovanje i druge pizdarje ce isto pojest novce
[11:08] <SilverSpace> ovako bar ce bit tu blizu i moze se prosetati svaki dan do nje
[11:09] <BotaniCar> To je sigurno bolje, ako bu lezala negdje u Marofu,sama, to je k'o da si joj smjestio metak u celo, samo duze traje
[11:09] <SilverSpace> BotaniCar: da znam i nama ce to pojest dosta para
[11:12] <Mmike> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pcfg7A4xu2w
[11:12] <datase> YouTube: Radmila Karaklajić - Anđelina, zumba, zumba (Angelina-Zooma Zooma) - 1963 - 0:03:16 - 19567 views - 106 likes / 2 dislikes
[11:15] <SilverSpace> Mmike: kaj ti slusas :)
[11:15] <Mmike> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m_RBfXsdATI
[11:15] <datase> YouTube: RADMILA KARAKLAJIĆ - La bamba (1965.) - 0:02:16 - 67381 views - 220 likes / 0 dislikes
[11:15] <Mmike> hit za hitom! :)
[11:15] <BotaniCar> Iha !
[11:16] <BotaniCar> ZeMska je (bila) bomba !
[11:16] <BotaniCar> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2sVgf--m0AI
[11:16] <datase> YouTube: Edo Maajka - Bomba DIRTY VERSION - 0:03:12 - 2513194 views - 4370 likes / 193 dislikes
[12:02] <BotaniCar> "MILKA LEO CHOCOLATE WAFER BAR MILK" , zakaj nama samo govno-proizvodi dolaze u ducane ?
[12:02] <BotaniCar> usput, kralj sam, na zivoj (remote) masini sam okinuo "route /f" (aka obrisi ruting tablicu). Sad moram zvat rack monkeye i obecavat' bananu :)
[12:04] <jelly> zash jos nemas remote management konzolu
[12:05] <BotaniCar> Zato kaj mi je jeftinije zvat' rack monkeye nego kupovati modul.
[12:05] <BotaniCar> Jednom u pol godine ih trebam,pa...
[12:06] <jelly> nije li bilo da sad cak i supermikraci sad imaju napola pristojan ipmi
[12:07] <BotaniCar> Imaju i vise nego pristojan, al' imam trenutno INTEL shasije i za njih je to bilo skuplje nego mi vrijedi. I, imaju licencing od kojeg bi i vmwaretovcimogli nesto nauciti :9
[12:08] <BotaniCar> usput, trazio sam opet nekakve ponude za servere, iJope mi intel najjeftinije izasao :)
[12:09] <obruT> i tak... danas se u firmi stvaraju novi pythonasi :) /me drzi propovijed :)
[12:09] <jelly> BotaniCar: onda pati bez mgta
[12:09] <BotaniCar> obruT: zakaj nije otvoreno za javnost ?! :)
[12:09] <BotaniCar> jelly: al, ne patim, obavio poziv i sad cu malo cekat' :)
[12:10] <obruT> BotaniCar: pa sta ja znam, mogo bi te progurat :)
[12:10] <jelly> PATI BEJBE
[12:10] <BotaniCar> obruT: :)
[12:22] <BotaniCar> obruT: kad si vec tu, si pogledao i revidirao onu uputu za IPv6 ? Meni i dalje ne radi :)
[12:29] <obruT> BotaniCar: ne stignem se s tim bavit :P
[12:29] <obruT> radim prezentaciju za ovo python predavanje, beamer je zakon :)
[12:38] <BotaniCar> Ti si zreo za korisnicku podrsku, bar otvoreno kazes "nemam vremena" :)
[12:40] <pkiller> obruT: a preko čega sa beamerom, chromecast / appletv?
[12:55] <obruT> pkiller: beamer -> latex-beamer :)
[13:11] <dodobas> obruT: a tek kad vidis jupyter i njegv notebook ...
[13:15] <pkiller> obruT: eto prilike da naučiš da budeš konkretniji :)
[13:21] <SilverSpace> ode Charlie Sheen u kurac
[13:37] <pkiller> kako ono ide... tko se mača lača... :)
[13:39] <jelly> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_VILr1xH3io
[13:39] <datase> YouTube: La cucaracha - Gipsy Kings - 0:03:10 - 928149 views - 1972 likes / 200 dislikes
[13:40] <pkiller> to to
[13:42] <SilverSpace> ;)
[13:44] <pkiller> taman napunim amazon košaricu i sjetim se da trebam registrirat auto... faking šit
[13:46] <SilverSpace> lol
[13:47] <BotaniCar> Kod mene je obrnuto, sjetim se da moram kupiti zimke gume, pa odem i kupim si i jos nekaj :)
[13:47] <pkiller> BotaniCar: kad si smrad :)
[13:47] <BotaniCar> pkiller: kad imam dozvoljen minus :P
[13:48] <pkiller> umijesto da djetetu uplatiš u neki fond da ne mora na fakultet
[13:48] <pkiller> :)
[13:49] <pkiller> idem da ne radim prekovremeno slučajno :P
[14:12] <vileni> BotaniCar: jesi nasao zimske?
[14:15] <BotaniCar> vileni: uzeo sam Fuldu
[14:18] <vileni> BotaniCar: sad jos samo da snijeg padne :)
[14:18] <jelly> api984: stalno ti pada veza na tom iskonu... nista to ne valjda
[14:18] <jelly> valja*
[14:19] <BotaniCar> vileni: stare gume su mi bile tak' potrosene da su mi sad ove i tise i bolje za vozit'
[14:19] <vileni> ja mislim da cu prije promijeniti auto nego ove gume :)
[14:21] <BotaniCar> Ne zvuci lose :)
[14:21] <vileni> to sve ovisi, ali ne volim imati dugo isti auto
[14:22] <vileni> BotaniCar: nego sta ono rece, imao si selinux na rhcsa?
[14:22] <BotaniCar> Jesteda, malo, ali bilo je
[14:23] <vileni> jel se sjecas koji je slucaj bio? tj uz koji servis
[14:24] <BotaniCar> apacheta
[14:24] <vileni> ja sam imao samo da provjerim da li je upaljen
[14:24] <BotaniCar> nekaj se nekamo micalo, pa je trebalo postaviti default contexe
[14:24] <vileni> to na rhcsa7?
[14:24] <BotaniCar> Nda, da bi stvar bila poslovicno glupa, na kraju testa je bio zadatak da podesim selinux na permissive :)
[14:24] <BotaniCar> da
[14:25] <vileni> cudna kombinacija
[14:25] <vileni> pogotovo taj dio sa permissive
[14:26] <BotaniCar> A cuj, na pocetku testa nas je instruktor uvjeravao da selinuxa u ispitu uopce nema :)
[14:26] <BotaniCar> Tak da ..
[14:27] <vileni> pa ovo sto sam ja dobio je stvarno minimum
[14:48] <SilverSpace> http://is.gd/mUaSpF
[14:48] <SilverSpace> jebenica
[14:50] <BotaniCar> Dobro ti stoji roza !
[14:55] <SilverSpace> BotaniCar: mozda je ovo u biti zensko :)
[14:57] <BotaniCar> Pa, kakvih bedevija ima ... :)
[14:59] <SilverSpace> http://www.vecernji.hr/felix/2015-11-17
[16:01] <Vlado9A3CY> dobra vecer
[18:07] <vileni> di su mandarine
[18:24] <Mmike> reklo mi da maknem!
[18:30] <ipozgaj> a e
[19:05] <vileni> Mmike: lako za to, kad cemo na kavu ako nema mandarina
[19:27] <obruT> hihi, super mi je kak se ekipa prijavi na utrku na koju se inace prijavi gro ljudi pa je izvlacenje ko na lutriji, a onda kad ih izvuku, kukaju, "jao, sacemo morat trenirat" :)
[19:28] <obruT> slatke muke :)
[19:35] <boorgy__> pozdrav
[19:36] <boorgy__> iskopirao bih fajl veći od 4GB na usb stick od 8GBH
[19:36] <boorgy__> i javlja mi grešku
[19:37] <boorgy__> usb je formatiran na fat.Ako usb formatiram na ext4 hoću li tako moći prebaciti taj fajl
[19:43] <SilverSpace> boorgy__: ako je fat 32 ne mozes kopirati tako veliku datoteku
[19:43] <SilverSpace> ext4 ili htfs
[19:43] <SilverSpace> ntfs
[19:43] <SilverSpace> *
[19:56] <boorgy__> znam da fat ne može ali nisam znao može li ext4. hvala
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[02:04] <pauljw> Hi everyone
[02:05] <OerHeks> hi pauljw
[02:05] <Bashing-om> pauljw: o/ , been slow but picking up now .
[02:05] <pauljw> hey OerHeks
[02:05] <pauljw> :)
[02:09] <pauljw> been seeing several unfamiliar helpers today.
[02:17] <Bashing-om> pauljw: Yeah, The quality has been commendable .
[02:19] <pauljw> seem to be holding their own.
[02:25] <Bashing-om> EriC^^: The big 'E" has arrived .. Good for us !
[02:26] <EriC^^> :)
[02:27] <EriC^^> how are you Bashing-om ?
[02:28] <Bashing-om> Fair .. considering .. Waiting on sumpthin to happen I can handle . How is your world ?
[02:28] <EriC^^> i'm ok
[02:29] <EriC^^> was sleeping and woke up to a thunderstorm, they're rare here
[02:29] <EriC^^> it's one lightning after another like a stroboscope outside O.o
[02:30] <Bashing-om> EriC^^: Times like that I know to shut the systems down and unplug ! Lightening is unforgiving too .
[02:31] <EriC^^> that's a good idea
[02:32] <EriC^^> i'll remove them
[02:34] <Bashing-om> I live at the top of a mountain ... highest point .. lighteneing has done a number here more than just once !
[02:37] <EriC^^> i see
[02:37] <EriC^^> i've removed everything from electricity
[02:38] <EriC^^> i imagine in the morning "why is everything not turning on? wtf?"
[02:38] <EriC^^> lol and i'm in my sleep and cussing is going on in the house
[02:40] <Bashing-om> Hah ! Better bleary eyed and catching up that spending big bucks replaceing hardware .
[02:41] <EriC^^> yeah :D
[02:42] <Bashing-om> EriC^^: ya ninja's me with BlastRed . Fast on the fingers huh ?
[02:43] <EriC^^> what's his issue?
[02:46] <Bashing-om> sorta unknown .. I "think" He is working from a bad bad - what he thinks is a liveDVD - to install to the hard drive .
[02:51] <EriC^^> i see
[03:53] <OerHeks> postfix configuration for the harddrive ...
[05:27] <lotuspsychje> good morning to all
[11:57] <daftykins> new toys! https://www.dropbox.com/sh/rj9p21r6jowb4o7/AACkI5b027SctsMRNppGZLfOa?dl=0
[11:57] <daftykins> £160 27" HannsG 2560x1440 IPS LCD arrived :)
[11:57] <lordievader> 2560x1440 is nice :)
[11:58] <daftykins> not for me, just ordered in for someone... but nice to see
[11:58] <daftykins> it was even a hassle getting it to display over HDMI correctly on Windows ;)
[12:28] <lordievader> I like having lots of screen estate.
[12:42] <BluesKaj> Hiyas all
[12:57] <daftykins> hallo o/
[13:11] <BluesKaj> hey daftykins
[17:58] <daftykins> TJ-: heya o/
[17:58] <TJ-> Evening :)
[17:58] <OerHeks> :-)
[18:02] <daftykins> https://www.dropbox.com/s/6vgbr5ix7pqj459/IMG_20151117_171517.jpg?dl=0
[18:02] <daftykins> still playing with this 27" thing :)
[18:02] <daftykins> hmm i forget TJ- can't view those links without hassle!
[18:04] <daftykins> http://techblo.gg/stuff/lcd.jpg
[18:04] <daftykins> there's a tad more sane version
[18:04] <TJ-> It amazes me; an organisation depends on another externally controlled server for its core product - in this case ajax.googleapis.com
[18:05] <daftykins> mmm that's annoying
[18:05] <daftykins> some have sworn off dropbox because that ex-government person Condoleeza Rice is on their exec board o0
[18:05] <TJ-> looks like the larger monitor ought to be above the other 2 :)
[18:05] <daftykins> can't say i saw a reason there though
[18:05] <daftykins> haha, well i bought this in for a client y'see, so it's just getting 'testing' right now
[18:06] <daftykins> amusingly only my desktop can drive this 27" with its' native 2560x1440, and even then only if i turn off one of my two
[18:06] <TJ-> I generally won't use any service that depends on external servers - shows the directors have no concept of controlling their quality and core value
[18:06] <TJ-> is the GPU capable of driving more than 2 heads at once?
[18:07] <daftykins> nope
[18:07] <TJ-> many only have 2 outputs at once
[18:07] <daftykins> only two TMDS signal converters on-die
[18:07] <TJ-> right. That's why I have the Quadro with dual GPUs, to drive 4 heads
[18:07] <daftykins> makes me laugh this panel came with VGA, since that can't drive >2048x1536 iirc
[18:08] <TJ-> analog can get some very high resolutions, more than some digital outputs
[18:09] <daftykins> RAMDACs used to be limited to the 2048 res though, or maybe more so the VGA cable MHz rating? *shrug*
[18:09] <daftykins> i've not tried VGA, could be fun for a laugh
[18:10] <TJ-> RAMDAC frequencies was the top limit, but bad cables could cause some terrible crosstalk and ghosting/wobble
[18:12] <daftykins> it's funny that i've owned these Dell 2408 LCDs since 2008, with all the inputs under the sun, yet still haven't owned anything with displayport to make use of it :)
[18:12] <daftykins> old v1.1 though it is
[18:15] <TJ-> I've got the U2412 and the same; but what I like is they take 12V DC input
[18:18] <daftykins> :)
[18:18] <daftykins> http://vrworld.com/2015/11/16/nvidia-unveils-pascal-gpu-16gb-of-memory-1tbs-bandwidth/
[18:18] <daftykins> ooh nvidia's stab at HBM tech
[18:30] <TJ-> trying to rsync 64GB from android phone over MTP; looks like it'll take a few days!
[18:31] <daftykins> ugh
[18:31] <daftykins> even on Windows when i've done backups of phones before wiping, it takes forever just counting the data before a copy starts
[18:32] <daftykins> ooh i'm getting a free LG Nexus 5 soon, it has a smashed screen but i ordered one from Hong Kong on ebay for £26 :)
[18:36] <TJ-> Good plan
[18:41] <daftykins> hope it works out, 'official' LCDs with digitizer and panel etc are listed for more like £90
[19:03] <daftykins> if only Elementary didn't exist :)
[19:05] <Bashing-om> elementry is close, but no chocolate chip cookies !
[19:07] <daftykins> that's true
[20:15] <daftykins> OerHeks: i'm not sure that WMV or WMA have to have DRM, i think they can be without too, no?
[20:16] <OerHeks> Yes, with and without
[21:45] <OerHeks> themes problems should be top priority, guys.
[21:46] <OerHeks> we are losing 1000+ users per hour
[21:46] <daftykins> :D
[22:11] * daftykins sings whilst doing maintenance
[22:12] <OerHeks> that game0 dude is annoying, earlier in #ubuntu-touch he was insulting volunteers, but they have a policy to be nice,not ban.
[22:14] <daftykins> mmm i wasn't very impressed with the things being said
[23:41] <OerHeks> daftykins, it is your fault that his celeron is slow.
[23:41] <OerHeks> :-D
[23:41] <OerHeks> man, some don't want help
[23:41] <daftykins> maybe if i give it a cookie?
[23:41] <daftykins> just because it came from Vista era though, it shouldn't be slow :/
[23:42] <daftykins> maybe it has a faulty hard disk / shouldn't be running unity
[23:42] <OerHeks> celeron single core perhaps
[23:42] <daftykins> yeah, low cache celeron + low RAM = swap++
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[00:00] <ash_work> howudodat: also, should I stop ncat before telnetting?
[00:00] <howudodat> yes kill ncat
[00:00] <howudodat> ash_work: try from both
[00:01] <ash_work> howudodat: on the local machine the connection was refused
[00:01] <ash_work> howudodat: still trying on the container
[00:03] <ash_work> howudodat: telnet: Unable to connect to remote host: Connection timed out
[00:08] <frostschutz> araph, you should be able to do this from the running system. was it regular swap or encrypted?
[00:08] <howudodat> ash_work: you might need to add a -6 flag to your telnet-->telnet -6 localhost 9000, telnet -6 172.17.0.1 9000
[00:09] <araph> frostschutz, it was regular swap. I'd assigned it during OS installation, but then I think I had to change something in partitioning, and there the area lost its 'swap' quality
[00:10] <ash_work> howudodat: telnet: could not resolve 172.17.0.1/9000: Address family for hostname not supported
[00:11] <howudodat> ash_work:your computer's ip address is what? and that is where you run atom? outside of a docker container?
[00:12] <ash_work> howudodat: yeah, atom is running outside the container
[00:13] <ash_work> howudodat: I've allocated the IP as per: http://stackoverflow.com/questions/30668090/how-can-i-debug-my-docker-container-with-phpstorm
[00:13] <ash_work> howudodat: even though I'm not using PHPStorm
[00:15] <howudodat> ash_work:can you pastebin your xdebug.ini?
[00:16] <ash_work> howudodat: I don't have one. o.O;
[00:16] <ash_work> xdebug.so is there though
[00:16] <frostschutz> araph, check your /etc/fstab, see if it has an fstab entry. apart from that it's just a matter of mkswap /dev/partition, swapon /dev/partition, blkid /dev/partition, and adding a swap entry for that UUID to fstab. you can find examples for this online or on any other machine that is using swap
[00:16] <ash_work> howudodat: whose path is given for zend_extension= in php.ini
[00:16] <frostschutz> araph, make 140% sure that you're using the correct partition though or you will lose your data ;)
[00:17] <ash_work> howudodat: and xdebug shows up in phpinfo()
[00:19] <howudodat> ash_work: it seems that there is something not quite configured right with your xdebug. Sadly I dont use it. The stack overflow article gives some insight on what the problem might be. and based upon the telnet tests I concur. it seems that xdebug doesn't quite know how to get out of the container to connect to your editor on port 9000
[00:19] <araph> frostschutz, it shows a swap entry: http://paste.ubuntu.com/13305011/
[00:20] <livefree> hello
[00:20] <araph> does it mean there exists a swap space?
[00:22] <ash_work> howudodat: any ideas to discern where xdebug is hitting a wall?
[00:26] <howudodat> ash_work: I would take the question to xdebug mailing list, or post on stackoverflow which is much more tailored to programming questions
[00:27] <ash_work> howudodat: okay; thanks for helping me out
[00:27] <frostschutz> araph, so it is encrypted swap after all... and the swap entry in /etc/crypttab?
[00:27] <_habnabit> on 14.04, i think i'm running upstart as init with some systemd stuff going on as well. is there a command that sets up a user session, which includes cgroups and such? previously i was doing `chpst -u someuser somecommand ...` but that isn't initializing cgroups
[00:27] <howudodat> ash_work: sorry I couldn't get you going
[00:27] <ash_work> howudodat: I was hoping this was a matter of employing a tracing mechanism or something that would let me figure out where xdebug is failing, but alas, I am not so fortunate; either way, I really appreciate your help
[00:29] <araph> frostschutz, it's like this: http://paste.ubuntu.com/13305242/
[00:29] <frostschutz> araph, is that lubuntu?
[00:30] <livefree> greetings
[00:30] <araph> frostschutz, no, ubuntu
[00:30] <frostschutz> araph, doesn't work this way in any case
[00:31] <frenckhyx> Isn't ubuntu a terrorist tool.
[00:31] <nicomachus> gtfo
[00:31] <araph> frostschutz, do you mean I cannot assign the swap area in the space where it formerly was?
[00:32] <frostschutz> araph, not sure if this works for ubuntu as well but you need something like this https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Dm-crypt/Swap_encryption#UUID_and_LABEL
[00:32] <k1l_> frenckhyx: troll somewhere else please.
[00:32] <frostschutz> araph, or use unencrypted swap, or luks encrypted swap that asks for a passphrase, or whatever
[00:33] <araph> frostschutz, I dont mind using unencrypted swap. but there appears no swap space in my partition table of hdd now. could I create an unencrypted one without breaking anything, like you mentioned above?
[00:35] <frostschutz> araph, unencrypted swap will break your encryption (if you're using luks or ecryptfs as in encrypted /home/user/.Private dir)
[00:36] <ffta> Hi all, why "xrandr --output HDMI1 --auto --primary" don't work
[00:36] <frostschutz> araph, for unencrypted swap as I said earlier, just mkswap the partition and so on and so forth (comment out the crypttab entry)
[00:37] <araph> frostschutz, so the solution you mentioned 'mkswap /dev/partition, swapon /dev/partition, blkid /dev/partition, and adding a swap entry for that UUID to fstab', would it work in my case, with the encrypted swap?
[00:37] <araph> without hazards?
[00:43] <VictoriaXOXO> Q: Anyone know the recommended way of installing "pastebinit"? Software Center or terminal?
[00:43] <frenckhyx> k1l_: what
[00:44] <genii> VictoriaXOXO: Either
[00:44] <VictoriaXOXO> genii: I get the same version no matter what?
[00:44] <genii> VictoriaXOXO: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install pastebinit etc... yes, same version
[00:45] <k1l_> VictoriaXOXO: the software center or other GUI uses the same commands in the background.
[00:45] <genii> VictoriaXOXO: The underlying system will install whatever the latest version in the repos is no matter what way you install it
[00:45] <VictoriaXOXO> genii: k1l_: Awesome! :D
[00:45] <k1l_> VictoriaXOXO: but we supporters like terminal commands since we get the errormessages there and you can easily paste them and show them to us.
[00:46] <VictoriaXOXO> k1l_: Yeah, I know. How do I do that pipe symbol in terminal? That long l looking thing.
[00:46] <danmulvey> | ?
[00:46] <VictoriaXOXO> Yes, that one.
[00:46] <danmulvey> shift & \
[00:46] <k1l_> depends on your keyboard layout
[00:46] <genii> VictoriaXOXO: Also since many helpers are in different *buntu channels like #kubuntu #lubuntu #xubuntu, the command-line way is the same no matter what desktop environment is being used
[00:46] <danmulvey> should be above the enter key
[00:46] <VictoriaXOXO> en-US.
[00:47] <VictoriaXOXO> genii: Makes sense.
[00:47] <VictoriaXOXO> Test: |
[00:47] <VictoriaXOXO> Got it! :D
[00:47] <VictoriaXOXO> The Super Mario brothers sure love their |s.
[00:48] <danmulvey> that reminds me actually, how often should i be running sudo apt-get upgrade/update ?
[00:49] <cdk> has anybody set up a vnc or something of this type to access thier computrer from ther android phone
[00:49] <araph> frostschutz, but doesn't the entry in fstab refer to swap area? does it not mean that I have one?
[00:49] <danmulvey> cdk: i've messed around with it a bit
[00:50] <cdk> have you had any sucess?
[00:50] <danmulvey> cdk: its been a minute since i used it, but yeah it seemed to work well. i just haven't had much reason to use it that much
[00:51] <cdk> what service do you use?
[00:51] <danmulvey> cdk: i used dyndns.org to make things a little easier connectng, trying to find the app i used right now though
[00:52] <danmulvey> cdk: gimme a second to grab my phone and see what i have installed
[00:52] <ubuntunewbie> can anyone help me with a mdadm issue. i have a non boot md0 that i setup after installing ubuntu15.10 for the life of me i cannot get it to assemble during boot. i can assemble manually after boot. i try checking dmesg and see nothing about it, i think mdadm is not running at boot/attempting at boot
[00:52] <danmulvey> cdk: have you tried anything yet or just looking for recommendations?
[00:53] <cdk> tried x11vnc but no luck and tried remina or somtehthing like that but no luck and seeking help
[00:55] <danmulvey> ive got androidVNC installed on my phone, ive heard good things about pocketCloud though. supposed to be pretty easy to se
[00:55] <danmulvey> s/se/use/
[00:56] <danmulvey> cdk: anything specifically giving you trouble though?
[00:57] <cdk> the remina one only connects to a vnc server not host and i am unable to figure out the x11vnc
[00:58] <danmulvey> what are you running on the computer youre trying to connect to?
[01:00] <cdk> i was trying to setup my linux computer so that i can acess it from my phone and control it from the phone
[01:01] <danmulvey> so you should be running the vnc server from your computer
[01:02] <danmulvey> i think vino is installed by default
[01:04] <danmulvey> look for "desktop sharing" on your computer, that should give you the settngs youll need for your phone to connect
[01:09] <ffta> why VGA default dis
[01:09] <ffta> can't reset
[01:11] <cdk> i treid to bring up desktop sharing but i cant find it it says that it is installed however i cant find it and it wont tell me where it is located at in the system
[01:13] <danmulvey> did you try pulling it up through the unity dash/search?
[01:14] <danmulvey> im blanking on what its called, by default its at the top of your list of applications on the left of your screen
[01:14] <danmulvey> should be able to click on that icon and type in desktop sharing and it'll locate it for you
[01:14] <danmulvey> what happens when you do that?
[01:17] <araph> hello everyone, I ran badblocks on a drive for two passes already, and it gave no errors. yet I read that it would need to run a couple of days to reveal deeper errors. is it really necessary?
[01:21] <ubuntunewbie> can anyone help me with a mdadm issue. i can assemble manually after boot with mdadm -As. i try checking dmesg and see nothing about it, i think mdadm is not running at boot/attempting at boot, is there an additional step other than /etc/mdadm/mdadm.conf that needs to be setup to load the raid array? it seems that mdadm.conf is not being checked during boot and i am not sure where to start. no
[01:21] <ubuntunewbie> errors are thrown but i believe that is because nothing is even trying to assemble /dev/md0
[01:23] <greyscale> Does anyone else have experience with an intel/nvidia laptop having dogshit external 4k performance, but perfect internal 3.5k performance and perfect 1080p external performance over displayport?
[01:24] <greyscale> It runs like a dog.. I get cursor flickering and everything.
[01:24] <greyscale> Videos are a slideshow
[01:25] <danmulvey> anyone have experience recovering data from drives that were set up in raid (striping) originally?
[01:25] <cdk> danmulvey: it doesnt come up with it but when i look at it through the ubuntu software center it shows that it is installed but wont show where just that it is installed
[01:26] <Canon> anyone here
[01:27] <Canon> looking to reinstall dd on a ubuntu system
[01:27] <k1l_> "reinstall"?
[01:28] <Canon> clean install
[01:28] <k1l_> Canon: what happend that you want to reinstall it?
[01:28] <danmulvey> cdk: huh that's odd, give me a second to take a look at my setup and see if i can help
[01:28] <Canon> just cant find where to get the deb file
[01:28] <k1l_> Canon: what happend?
[01:29] <danmulvey> cdk: open a terminal and type 'which vino-preferences' (without the quotes) and let me know what that says
[01:29] <Canon> just wiped my server...
[01:29] <k1l_> Canon: you usually dont just reinstall stuff. and dd is not a own package. its included into coreutils. so i hope you did not remove that
[01:29] <cdk> kk just a sec
[01:30] <k1l_> Canon: then better reinstall your server.
[01:31] <cdk> heres thje output::: /usr/bin/vino-preferences
[01:32] <danmulvey> cdk: cool, try running 'vino-preferences &' and that should get you going
[01:34] <danmulvey> cdk: that's the vnc server that comes with the default ubuntu install, should give you the info you need to connect with whatever viewer you have on the phone
[01:34] <cdk> ok it opened now how do i set it up? and connect to it?
[01:35] <danmulvey> cdk: youre gonna want to enable desktop sharing on there, then on the vnc viewer app on your phone you'll need to enter your ip address/login info for the computer
[01:36] <cdk> do i check the automaticly configure UPnP router to open and forward ports?
[01:37] <cdk> and what port does it default to?
[01:38] <danmulvey> cdk: i believe i had mine set to auto, let me double check on that and the default port though. just a second
[01:40] <truexfan81> is there any way to add transparency to the panel in unity?
[01:40] <kostkon> truexfan81, unity-tweak might have that option
[01:41] <truexfan81> kk
[01:41] <danmulvey> cdk: i wanna say it's port 5900 but i'm trying to make sure right now
[01:42] <cdk> danmulvey: ok
[01:42] <Truffel> How can I view my network adapter settings and change them?
[01:42] <k1l_> truexfan81: see in unity-tweak-tool
[01:42] <cdk> danmulvey: i am also using "androidVNC" on my phone
[01:42] <gzcwnk> truffel ifconfig at the comamnd line
[01:43] <truexfan81> kostkon and k1l_ thanks
[01:43] <k1l_> Truffel: what you mean exactly? is networkmanager enough?
[01:43] <danmulvey> cdk: yeah looks like its 5900
[01:43] <danmulvey> cdk: and i have the upnp config set to auto on mine
[01:44] <Truffel> lets say I wanted to change what band my wifi card broadcast on and setting like that.
[01:44] <danmulvey> cdk: give it a try and let me know if it works or if you get stuck anywhere along the way
[01:44] <Gyom> //mode $me +x
[01:45] <nicomachus> fail
[01:45] <cdk> ok so when i search my ip and get the public ip adress is that the one i should use?
[01:45] <Truffel> ?
[01:46] <k1l_> Truffel: you set that in the settings of your router.
[01:46] <danmulvey> cdk: yeah that sounds right
[01:46] <gzcwnk> truffel you change networks and taht changes the channel unless you are the access point?
[01:46] <Canon> found and installed thanks
[01:46] <danmulvey> cdk: you can also use something like dyndns.org to point to your ip address and make things a little easier to remember
[01:47] <Truffel> sorry I meant the band that my wifi adapter looks for, im pretty sure I can change that.
[01:47] <k1l_> Truffel: it will scan for all bands.
[01:47] <gzcwnk> truffel but u only do 2.4ghz?
[01:48] <cdk> ok when trying to connect from m,y computer its stuck on saying establishing handshake please wait and then says connectoin timed out
[01:48] <gzcwnk> cdk are you doing vnc over ssh?
[01:49] <Truffel> yeah. I having trouble staying connected to my university wifi. It's only since my laptop has been running ubuntu.
[01:49] <k1l_> Truffel: what line in "lsusb;lspci" contains your wifi?
[01:50] <gzcwnk> truffel i odnt think that will help
[01:50] <cdk> on the phone it doesnt specify whether it is ssl ssh or what it is
[01:50] <Truffel> if I restart the laptop it fixes it for a while then it happens again
[01:50] <k1l_> Truffel: sounds more like a driver issue
[01:50] <gzcwnk> cdk you have vncclient?
[01:50] <gzcwnk> and teh remote server is ubuntu?
[01:51] <gzcwnk> I odnt use an android but i use vnc a lot
[01:51] <danmulvey> cdk: you're trying to connect to your computer with your phone or from a different computer now?
[01:51] <Truffel> K1I_ any idea on fixes other than getting a eternal usb adapter
[01:52] <cdk> i as foir the website you gave me i dont want to pay for this se4rvice
[01:52] <k1l_> Truffel: not if you dont give details
[01:52] <danmulvey> cdk: they shouldhave a free service
[01:52] <cdk> from my phone
Truffel: what line in "lsusb;lspci" contains your wifi?
[01:52] <danmulvey> cdk: i think you just have to go to their website every once in a while to update it for the free service
[01:53] <cdk> gzcwnk: i have ununtus desktop sharing set up and am using androidVNC app on my phone
[01:53] <truexfan81> kostkon and k1l_ that worked nicely thanks again :D
[01:54] <cdk> danmulvey: this is what it brought me to: http://dyn.com/dns/
[01:55] <Truffel> 24?
[01:55] <k1l_> Truffel: please show the line here
[01:55] <cdk> gzcwnk: you have any ways of setting this up?
[01:56] <danmulvey> cdk: ahh its been a while since ive used them, lemme poke around the site and see if they still have the service i was thinking of. sorry about that
[01:56] <kitkat> Hi
[01:56] <Truffel> 02:00.0 Network controller: Qualcomm Atheros AR9485 Wireless Network Adapter (rev 01)
[01:57] <gzcwnk> cdk so teh desktop has a dhcp ip address and it changes?
[01:57] <cdk> danmulvey: thats ok
[01:58] <gzcwnk> danmulvey they used to be free but now I think they charge, though you used to be able to get 30days renewable for free
[01:58] <k1l_> Truffel: what is "lsb_release -d"?
[01:58] <danmulvey> cdk: yeah looks like they discontinued the free service about a year ago unfortunately. i've been using a custom domain for a little while now so I haven't had a use for them, good to know now though so i can stop referring people there!
[01:59] <danmulvey> gzcwnk: yeah thats what i used to use, the one where you just had to hit their site once a month to keep it going
[01:59] <gzcwnk> yep, before that you didnt even have to do that....i used it
[02:00] <Truffel> Ubuntu 14.04.3 LTS
[02:00] <Guest97901> Hello fellow ubuntu users. Im in desperate need of help and ive literally searched the internet with no prevail.
[02:00] <Guest97901> How do i set a nickname ._. i havent used irc in a while.
[02:01] <k1l_> Guest97901: /nick newnick
[02:01] <danmulvey> Guest9790: /nick <nick>
[02:01] <BlastRed> Thank you.
[02:01] <BlastRed> Okay, so anyone pretty experienced with ubuntu? i need help with it.
[02:01] <BlastRed> I dont want to ramble off and noone to understand
[02:02] <danmulvey> cdk: ok so you have sharing enabled on your computer, and you have the vnc viewer app on your phone with the correct ip address etc plugged in, but when you try to connect it times out? just trying to make sure we're on the same page here
[02:03] <cdk> gzcwnk: yes
[02:03] <k1l_> Truffel: "uname -a"?
[02:03] <cdk> danmulvey: yes that is what i have done
[02:03] <danmulvey> cdk: is your phone on the same network as your computer? not sure if that would make a difference just curious
[02:03] <cdk> danmulvey: is there a place that i can paste pohotos to?
[02:04] <danmulvey> cdk: imgur.com
[02:04] <Truffel> Linux turbuntu 3.19.0-31-generic #36~14.04.1-Ubuntu SMP Thu Oct 8 10:21:08 UTC 2015 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux
[02:04] <cdk> danmulvey: and yes there on the same network.
[02:04] <k1l_> Truffel: so that should work fine. with that newer kernel
[02:05] <gzcwnk> cdk so you know the IP change or can it surprise you?
[02:05] <BlastRed> um...
[02:05] <BlastRed> :/
[02:05] <danmulvey> gzcwnk: we're just trying to get him setup in general right now. having trouble connecting the phone to the computer
[02:05] <cdk> gzcwnk: as far as i know it stays the same as everytime i check it it is the same
[02:06] <Truffel> k1I_ how new is this kernel? like it seems to be working fine today but i had not used the pc in a while because of the connection problems.
[02:06] <BlastRed> My ubuntu computer is having a input/output error and i dont know how to fix it as im new to ubuntu...
[02:06] <cdk> gzcwnk: here is how i have the desktop sharing configured. ::: http://imgur.com/UcnbZSd
[02:06] <BlastRed> I've tried everything.
[02:06] <BlastRed> This is my last resort :|
[02:07] <BlastRed> ; -;
[02:07] <gzcwnk> hmm pity I odnt have a andoid phone :/
[02:07] <BlastRed> Noone has any idea on how to fix an input/output error on ubuntu?
[02:07] <gzcwnk> blastred can you paste teh error?
[02:07] <BlastRed> oh yeah sure
[02:07] <gzcwnk> pastebin
[02:08] <BlastRed> Theres a couple, ill leave a link in pastebin
[02:08] <BlastRed> yeah
[02:08] <cdk> gzcwnk: i can even do it through a webbrowser on my phone i just want he acesss.
[02:08] <gzcwnk> cdk I'd suggest using vnc4server and then ssh tunnel vnc, I assume you can do ssh and a tunnel with andoird
[02:09] <gzcwnk> cdk do you have an ssh app?
[02:09] <BlastRed> Theres quite a bit, so wait off a while
[02:10] <cdk> gzcwnk: i do now
[02:10] <gzcwnk> balstred a i/o error could be a dead sisk, the fix then in obvious if costly
[02:11] <gzcwnk> disk
[02:11] <gzcwnk> cdk are u in front of your desktop?
[02:12] <cdk> gzcwnk: wher do i get he vnc4server and yes im in front of my desktop thats what im on right now
[02:12] <gzcwnk> cdk do a sudo su - to get to root and type apg-get -y install vnc4server
[02:12] <gzcwnk> apt-get i mean
[02:13] <cdk> then is there a graphical face for that?
[02:13] <gzcwnk> open an xterm
[02:13] <k1l_> dont su - on ubuntu. sudo -i works
[02:13] <gzcwnk> probably but i odnt use it
[02:13] <BlastRed> A couple of more minutes please
[02:14] <gzcwnk> all my ubuntu desktops are down while i move teh gluster clsuter
[02:14] <k1l_> BlastRed: i/o errors can come from a failing disk.
[02:14] <gzcwnk> kil tahts what i suspect
[02:15] <gzcwnk> or it could be something else
[02:16] <BlastRed> Here it is:
[02:16] <BlastRed> http://pastebin.com/2FTTY2nA
[02:16] <cdk> ok i will try it thank you
[02:17] <gzcwnk> blastred do a fdisk -l for me pls
[02:17] <gzcwnk> cdk there are a few steps
[02:17] <cdk> ok
[02:17] <twigletzone> hi folks
[02:18] <gzcwnk> so once you have vnc4server installed let me know
[02:18] <BlastRed> ok
[02:18] <gzcwnk> pastebin?
[02:19] <sruli> does some one have a gnome ubuntu 15.10? i deleted my 01ifupdown file, would appreciate if someone can pastebin it
[02:19] <cdk> ok its installed
[02:20] <BlastRed> gzcwnk updated the pastebin with fdisk -l
[02:20] <BlastRed> it doesnt do anything other than blank
[02:20] <frenckhyx> BlastRed: wow
[02:20] <twigletzone> anyone know if the standard 14.04.3 iso image is working OK? Trying to set up a bootable USB stick and the pendrivelinux utility gave me a lot of 'file is broken' errors
[02:21] <sruli> pendrivelinux fails many times
[02:21] <frenckhyx> twigletzone: that's bad
[02:21] <twigletzone> it got further than the last util i tried
[02:21] <gzcwnk> blastred i said do a "fdisk -l" do exactly that pls
[02:21] <OerHeks> !info ifupdown
[02:21] <BlastRed> oh i did
[02:22] <twigletzone> any recommendations for a better way to make a bootable stick?
[02:22] <OerHeks> sruli it is a program, reinstall it
[02:22] <gzcwnk> oh...
[02:22] <sruli> OerHeks: tnx
[02:22] <gzcwnk> i cant see an output
[02:22] <BlastRed> This is what happens :ubuntu@ubuntu:~$ fdisk -l ubuntu@ubuntu:~$
[02:22] <gzcwnk> did it not return?
[02:22] <BlastRed> There is no output. thats a problem
[02:22] <frenckhyx> twigletzone: dd command
[02:22] <twigletzone> I'm on windows at the moment :(
[02:22] <EriC^^> twigletzone: did you checksum the iso?
[02:22] <twigletzone> ErIC^^: yes
[02:23] <gzcwnk> blastred tell me about this hardware you are on as it sounds like it has no disks
[02:23] <EriC^^> twigletzone: try linux live usb creator
[02:23] <cdk> gzcwnk: ok its installed
[02:23] <frenckhyx> gzcwnk: hardware
[02:23] <SeriouslyLaugh> I've had good success with unetbootin
[02:23] <BlastRed> gzcwnk how so?
[02:23] <twigletzone> okay... that one got me nowhere last time but i may have been doing it wrong lol
[02:23] <Bashing-om> BlastRed: 'fdisk' requires "sudo" to work .. try as 'sudo fdisk -lu' .
[02:24] <gzcwnk> cdk so you are curerently teh user you will have teh desktop as?
[02:24] <gzcwnk> blastred fdisk -l should return all your harddrives
[02:24] <BlastRed> oh ill leave a picture
[02:25] <BlastRed> anyway to screenshot on ubuntu livecd?
[02:25] <cdk> yes i ran in terminal vnc4server and got in return> You will require a password to access your desktops.
[02:26] <twigletzone> thanks everyone, going offline to try more things
[02:26] <gzcwnk> cdk did you set a password?
[02:27] <BlastRed> nvm found it
[02:28] <BlastRed> gzcwnk: http://imgur.com/A0FBfHp
[02:28] <cdk> gzcwnk: yes i set the password
[02:29] <gzcwnk> cdk so you got a return something like --> glusterp2:1.log
[02:29] <gzcwnk> ie a 1.log?
[02:30] <gzcwnk> blastred ok you have a disk
[02:30] <cdk> gzcwnk: it then outputed the followuing::: http://paste.ubuntu.com/13306957/
[02:30] <sruli> OerHeks: it did not replace the files on a reinstall
[02:30] <gzcwnk> cdk that 1 says the vncserver is running on port 5901
[02:30] <gzcwnk> if it said 2 it would be 5902 etc
[02:31] <cdk> ok let me thry that config in my phones end
[02:31] <gzcwnk> you will have to resatrt it every time you reboot the desktop, but you can set it to satrt on boot
[02:31] <gzcwnk> no wait
[02:31] <gzcwnk> cdk no wait
[02:32] <cdk> gzcwnk: and is this vnc or ssh?
[02:32] <gzcwnk> type this in the ssh client --> ssh -l <user> <ip> -L 5902:localhost:5901
[02:32] <BlastRed> gzcwnk: yeah, i showed you what happened when i tried to format the hard drive.
[02:33] <gzcwnk> blastred my only idea is use the fdisk to wipe teh disk so you do fdisk /dev/sda
[02:34] <gzcwnk> then d to delete the partitons and w to write those changes
[02:34] <gzcwnk> q to quit
[02:34] <gzcwnk> any data will be gone
[02:34] <gzcwnk> lost
[02:35] <gzcwnk> cdk is teh ssh client agui or a comemnd line thing?
[02:35] * gzcwnk typing sucks
[02:35] <BlastRed> ubuntu@ubuntu:~$ sudo fdisk /dev/sda fdisk: unable to read /dev/sda: Input/output error
[02:35] <BlastRed> gg.
[02:36] <returnthis> X has started crashing on me. three times toda
[02:36] <returnthis> http://pastebin.com/E8EnWQiK
[02:36] <returnthis> is there any more info I should grab?
[02:36] <xi_> ubuntu snappy core dev details documentations & materials?
[02:36] <cdk> gzcwnk: here is the screen throught he app that i am using-----> http://imgur.com/PRReh1l
[02:37] <k1l_> xi_: #snappy
[02:37] <BlastRed> So theres nothing i can do ; -;
[02:37] <k1l_> BlastRed: sounds like the disk is failing due to hardware failure.
[02:37] <gzcwnk> port will still be 22
[02:38] <k1l_> BlastRed: disks will die. some faster than others. be prepared and make backups
[02:38] <gzcwnk> or its a ddgy psu
[02:38] <gzcwnk> dodgy
[02:38] <BlastRed> kll_ so what do i do if i cant format it? its my harddrive
[02:38] <k1l_> BlastRed: get a new one
[02:38] <thurstylark> is utopic no longer supported?
[02:38] <gzcwnk> blastred this is a desktop?
[02:39] <k1l_> thurstylark: no. its dead since july
[02:39] <k1l_> !eolupgrades | thurstylark
[02:39] <gzcwnk> cdk you need to set ssh to tunnel vnc
[02:39] <BlastRed> gzcwnk this is a laptop. I am running of a LiveCD of ubuntu because my ubuntu apparantely crashed 12 hours aggo
[02:40] <gzcwnk> not sure how on that gui
[02:40] <BlastRed> and ive been trying to fix it for 12 hours
[02:40] <thurstylark> k1l_: That explains the 404s I got from trying to do updates. I oughtta use this computer more often.. Thanks
[02:40] <gzcwnk> well lik could well be right then, sounds like a dead/dying disk
[02:41] <sruli> my tun0 dir in /sys/class/net/ has also disappeared what do i need to reinstall to get that back?
[02:41] <EriC^^> BlastRed: if you want to check your disk type sudo apt-get install smartmontools , then sudo smartctl -a /dev/sdX
[02:42] <cdk> gzcwnk: ok now i have acces but only in a command line and no graphicle
[02:43] <gzcwnk> cdk so you have ssh'd tot he desktop?
[02:45] * gzcwnk jumps for joy, gluster is back up :)
[02:46] <cdk> gzcwnk: here is what i have----> http://imgur.com/VTPe3rb
[02:46] <cdk> but i would like to have graphical access
[02:47] <gzcwnk> cdk start the vncclient and for the IP put in localhost:5901
[02:47] <gzcwnk> so if it gives you a passowrd prompt
[02:47] <gzcwnk> see i mean
[02:51] <Bashing-om> BlastRed: your A0FBfHp post does not show to be a liveDVD image .. seems it is a copy of the .iso file ???
[02:51] <cdk> gzcwnk: how do i do that?
[02:52] <BlastRed> Bashing-om oh well i guess it is that?
[02:53] <cdk> gzcwnk: these are the optoins that i have::: http://imgur.com/ruUA1DC
[02:54] <BlastRed> Bashing-om : http://imgur.com/8nVlzW6
[02:54] <BlastRed> its what my ubuntu (trial disc) is running on
[02:55] <BlastRed> EriC^^ : E: Unable to locate package smartmontool
[02:56] <EriC^^> smartmontools
[02:56] <EriC^^> then type sudo smartctl -a /dev/sda | nc termbin.com 9999 and paste the link
[02:57] <cdk> gzcwnk::: heres what i can do> http://imgur.com/ruUA1DC
[02:57] <gzcwnk> cdk you open the vnccleint on the android it should ask waht to connect to
[02:58] <Seven_Six_Two> Is flash finally dead? I can't get any to load in my firefox
[02:58] <gzcwnk> cdk dont you have a vnc client app?
[02:58] <cdk> i will see what i can get
[02:59] <gzcwnk> sorry thought you did
[03:00] <whoami_> hai
[03:02] <whoami_> can you teach me about how to use terminal in the linux?
[03:02] <Bashing-om> BlastRed: What is your present goal ? I still see a 1GB squashfs as an .iso image file .
[03:02] <reisio> whoami_: CTRL+ALT+t
[03:02] <k1l_> !terminal | whoami_
[03:05] <BlastRed> Bashing-om present goal?
[03:06] <Bashing-om> BlastRed: Yeah, what are we working to achieve ?
[03:07] <BlastRed> Bashing-om : Oh, to format the Hard disk in order to make it NTFS to reinstall windows 7
[03:07] <BlastRed> Or, reinstall ubuntu and possibly go through this process again
[03:08] <gzcwnk> blastred it sounds like teh hd is dying, try a reboot and see if its then tehre
[03:09] <pyios> W: Failed to fetch http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/trusty-updates/main/binary-amd64/Packages Hash Sum mismatch
[03:09] <cdk> gzcwnk: ok i have a vnc client on my pohone now... here is what it has >>> http://imgur.com/3H8bG7p
[03:09] <pyios> how to fix this?
[03:09] <k1l_> pyios: just wait :)
[03:09] <BlastRed> gzcwnd AND Bashing-om : brb going to restart
[03:09] <gzcwnk> cdk for address put localhost:5901
[03:10] <k1l_> pyios: or if you cant wait do a "sudo rm /var/lib/apt/lists/* -vf" then "sudo apt update" again
[03:10] <gzcwnk> try hat
[03:10] <gzcwnk> that
[03:11] <cdk> gzcwnk: ok now what
[03:11] <gzcwnk> hit enter see if you get a password prompt
[03:12] <cdk> no i get he port on which your computer is listening for a connectoin could not be contacted
[03:13] <gzcwnk> cdk :(
[03:13] <gzcwnk> cdk you are probably not forwarding
[03:13] <cdk> is there a way to tell vnc4server to do it on port 80?
[03:15] <gzcwnk> cdk not i know of
[03:15] <pyios> after “ sudo rm /var/lib/apt/lists/* -vf” ,the same problem is still
[03:15] <pyios> there
[03:15] <cdk> ok i have to go hopefully i figur something out.......
[03:16] <cdk> thanks for the help
[03:18] <Bashing-om> pyios: Possible the problem is in the mirror site . Might change your mirror - or wait 'til the morrow and try a update once more .
[03:20] <BlastRed> Im back
[03:20] <BlastRed> whho was helping me?
[03:20] <BlastRed> Hello? who was helping me with my Disk?
[03:21] <BlastRed> For whoever asked when i was gone, that 1 GB thing was casper so i had a linux mint live usb that kept things i installed onto it
[03:22] <BlastRed> Bashing-om: who was the other guy
[03:22] <BlastRed> dood.
[03:22] <reisio> BlastRed: doesn't matter, what's up
[03:23] <BlastRed> Im trying to format my harddisk but its giving me the input/output error
[03:23] <BlastRed> i have a pastebin for it.
[03:23] <reisio> a spinner?
[03:23] <BlastRed> spinner?
[03:23] <Bashing-om> BlastRed: There was gzcwnd and EriC^^ .. I am done for this session and calling it a night .. wish you the best .
[03:23] <BlastRed> ah
[03:24] <BlastRed> ;- ; its sad becausse i need you really badly
[03:24] <BlastRed> aw.
[03:24] <BlastRed> gg
[03:24] <BlastRed> spinner you say, reisio?
[03:25] <k1l_> disk, not ssd.
[03:26] <BlastRed> @kll_ who re you talking to?
[03:26] <BlastRed> who are*
[03:26] <pyios> when I execute command with sudo at first ,does it mean doing it with root account ?
[03:27] <BlastRed> spinner you say, reisio?
[03:28] <k1l_> BlastRed: you. since you asked what "a spinner" is. a traditional hard disk got spinning metal platters in it.
[03:28] <reisio> BlastRed: uh yup
[03:28] <BlastRed> kll_ oh
[03:28] <reisio> pyios: in this case yes
[03:29] <k1l_> pyios: its root permissions, not the root account. but in the end the result is nearly the same
[03:30] <BlastRed> reisio: im not sure if my harddisk is a spinner, but i think it may be. Why might that matter for the input/output error?
[03:30] <VictoriaXOXO> k1l_ = admin? :o
[03:30] <k1l_> BlastRed: did you reboot? did that change anything? i still think that is a disk hardware failure
[03:31] <reisio> BlastRed: well, some storage devices you can't easily or usefully reconnect the cables to
[03:32] <BlastRed> kll_ yes, i rebooted. note that my ubuntu crashed and now only opens busybox and im on a ubuntu install CD to fix errors. Rebooting does not do much anything
[03:32] <BlastRed> reisio: im using a laptop
[03:32] <BlastRed> . -.
[03:32] <k1l_> BlastRed: which could be all explained because of a failing hard disl
[03:33] <k1l_> *disk
[03:33] <BlastRed> kll_ yes. I am trying to find a way to fix the errors to use the computer for untill christmas. For reasons unknown to the irc.
[03:33] <reisio> anyway, if you haven't sorted it yet, the most efficient solution is probably to replace it
[03:33] <BlastRed> reisio: expecting to christmas time . . .
[03:34] <k1l_> BlastRed: try to read the smart data if that is possible. but if its failing its failing. then you need to replace it
[03:34] <reisio> BlastRed: get a cheap usb stick and use that till then
[03:34] <k1l_> there is no magic command to make broken hardware work again.
[03:34] <BlastRed> Okay.
[03:34] <BlastRed> kll_ : read smart data
[03:35] <BlastRed> read smart data*?
[03:35] <reisio> k1l_: /usr/sbin/cha-ching
[03:35] <HackerII> el oh el
[03:35] <k1l_> BlastRed: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Smartmontools
[03:36] <DaViD_k> Good night. What is the link to download ubuntu server x64 ?
[03:36] <HackerII> ill take, ubuntu downloads for $500 alex
[03:37] <VictoriaXOXO> DaViD_k: 15.10? http://www.ubuntu.com/download/server/thank-you?country=&version=15.10&architecture=amd64
[03:37] <reisio> DaViD_k: whereabouts are you, geographically?
[03:37] <k1l_> i would suggest a 14.04 for a server
[03:37] <DaViD_k> VictoriaXOXO: Thank´s!
[03:37] <DaViD_k> reisio: Brazil
[03:37] <k1l_> !downloads | DaViD_k
[03:37] <k1l_> !download | DaViD_k
[03:38] <reisio> DaViD_k: http://mirror.pop-sc.rnp.br/mirror/ubuntu-releases/15.10/ubuntu-15.10-server-amd64.iso
[03:38] <VictoriaXOXO> DaViD_k: k1l_: 14.04 LTS? http://www.ubuntu.com/download/server/thank-you?country=&version=14.04.3&architecture=amd64
[03:38] <BlastRed> kll_ which postfix config shuld i use idk which ojnen is good
[03:39] <k1l_> BlastRed: ?
[03:40] <BlastRed> nevermind ill just pick one
[03:40] <VictoriaXOXO> k1l_: Do you use AppArmor? Why? Why not?
[03:41] <BlastRed> kll_ : http://shrib.com/Icpu5fPJY0zsF3a?v=nc
[03:41] <DaViD_k> downloading 15.10
[03:41] <DaViD_k> thank´s for all
[03:41] <BlastRed> those are the config things
[03:42] <hoodedice> suspend fails to suspend
[03:42] <OerHeks> goal ? Oh, to format the Hard disk in order to make it NTFS to reinstall windows 7 ..now postfix configs .. i am lost there, BlastRed ...
[03:43] <hoodedice> result: laptop overheats in backpack. Good thing is that it heats me up. Bad thing is that it then has no battery left for me to be able to do anything productive
[03:43] <VictoriaXOXO> Windows... *shivers*
[03:43] <BlastRed> 0erheks the windows part is not what im worried about exactly. im just trying to clear the computer of of the errors so i can even get as far to reinstall/install ANYTHING
[03:43] <remona-dash> hello
[03:44] <OerHeks> put in your windows disk and hit the button
[03:44] <remona-dash> do we have daily xubuntu or lubuntu builds?
[03:44] <BlastRed> its not that simple xD
[03:44] <remona-dash> isos I mean.
[03:44] <BlastRed> i need to format the harddisk to NTFS in order for it to show up in windows installation
[03:44] <hoodedice> Blast... you want to reinstall windows?
[03:44] <BlastRed> right. because it was gone when i decided to go linux mint
[03:45] <VictoriaXOXO> BlastRed: Don't do it! There's still time! You have so much to live for! :(
[03:45] <hoodedice> oookay, and I guess without losing mint?
[03:45] <BlastRed> which had the input/output error which i somehow fixed...
[03:45] <OerHeks> oh, mint issues
[03:45] <hoodedice> mint tissues
[03:45] <reisio> remona-dash: does it matter?
[03:45] <BlastRed> and when i fixed and installed ubuntu to erase linux mint, ubuntu 1 day after had the same problem
[03:46] <reisio> what problem?
[03:46] <remona-dash> (?)-/
[03:46] <BlastRed> now im like, screw the ubuntu os all together and im trying to go back to windows because i have a windows key
[03:46] <reisio> BlastRed: k, well; perhaps you're in the wrong channel, then
[03:46] <reisio> remona-dash: ?
[03:46] <BlastRed> No.. . *facepalm*
[03:46] <BlastRed> Im trying to either reinstall linux mint or windows
[03:47] <remona-dash> reisio: Yup; I need It just for its kernel. I need a live cd with newish kernel. 4.1 or above
[03:47] <hoodedice> Blast, google lilo
[03:47] <reisio> BlastRed: so decide :)
[03:47] <OerHeks> yeah. put in your windows disk and hit the button, if the disk is full errors/bad block, forget it.
[03:47] <remona-dash> 4.3 would be nice!
[03:47] <reisio> remona-dash: oh, why's that?
[03:47] <BlastRed> but focus on the problem: Im trying TO FORMAT THE HARD DRIVE
[03:47] <hoodedice> then, put in your windows disk and install it as is
[03:47] <BlastRed> it doesnt matter which os
[03:47] <k1l_> BlastRed: no
[03:47] <reisio> BlastRed: what's stopping you?
[03:47] <hoodedice> your windows disk can format the drive
[03:47] <k1l_> BlastRed: you dont to format at all. that will make the OS installer you will want to run
[03:48] <k1l_> BlastRed: the problem is: your disk seems to be hardware wise dead.
[03:48] <BlastRed> Look, when i try to install ubuntu, i get the input/output error
[03:48] <k1l_> BlastRed: no, you need to look
[03:48] <hoodedice> Blast, is it a seagate hard drive?
[03:48] <BlastRed> ??? ?
[03:48] <reisio> BlastRed: that's another matter, pick one
[03:48] <BlastRed> ????????????????????//
[03:48] <BlastRed> what?
[03:48] <k1l_> BlastRed: nor ubuntu, nor mint nor windows can repair hardware failure.
[03:48] <OerHeks> yeah, next argument will be the postfix configs?
[03:48] <OerHeks> :-(
[03:48] <remona-dash> reisio: compiling a kernel for a system I don't know the hardware details. i would boot that system with ubuntu and still the list of modules that way. also I may go bunckers and still the whole thing. (i.e the ubuntu kernel and the initramfs image)
[03:49] <BlastRed> this is silly, i know that kll
[03:49] <k1l_> BlastRed: if you know then stop telling the same wrong thing over and over again
[03:49] <BlastRed> which is..
[03:49] <BlastRed> ??
[03:49] <BlastRed> which is?
[03:49] <reisio> remona-dash: well the distro is irrelevant, you can take any kernel from any GNU/Linux distro and plug it into any other
[03:49] <remona-dash> I hate spellchecks; **steal**
[03:49] <k1l_> that you want to format the drive.
[03:50] <k1l_> BlastRed: only thing you can do now on ubuntu is to make sure the drive is dead. so use the smartmontools.
[03:50] <inteus> if the hard drive has failed, you won't be able to format it.
[03:50] <BlastRed> okay
[03:50] <BlastRed> jesus christ m8
[03:50] <BlastRed> sorry
[03:50] <BlastRed> sorry,
[03:50] <BlastRed> ok
[03:50] <inteus> yo, take a chill pill
[03:50] <remona-dash> reisio: do you know any distros besides ubuntu with kernel >4.1
[03:50] <BlastRed> kll_ did you figure out which mode i should use yet?
[03:50] <BlastRed> because i dont know.
[03:51] <k1l_> BlastRed: that just doesnt matter if you run a live-system right now
[03:52] <reisio> remona-dash: why, has Ubuntu got it?
[03:52] <BlastRed> what? im talking about postfix configuration for the harddrive
[03:52] <reisio> BlastRed: hahah
[03:52] <reisio> good one
[03:52] <BlastRed> the only reason i mentioined the hard drive format is because someone mentioned it first .-.
[03:52] <BlastRed> reisio: good one what!?!?!?
[03:52] <Steven_M> Hi all, the groups command is not showing all the groups my user is suposed to be in.
[03:52] <k1l_> BlastRed: postfix doesnt matter now. you got other issues than wanting to send mails
[03:53] <reisio> Steven_M: so add them: gpasswd
[03:53] <hoodedice> anyway, let me reiterate my problem: After suspending xubuntu 15.04 on my laptop, if I close the lid, the laptop boots back up
[03:53] <BlastRed> kll_ so local only?
[03:53] <BlastRed> kll_ or no config?
[03:53] <k1l_> BlastRed: no config.
[03:54] <BlastRed> this computer is only like 4 years old anyway it should be fine... haha
[03:54] <k1l_> BlastRed: no
[03:54] <BlastRed> im kidding
[03:55] <BlastRed> kll_ , it is installed, now what.
[03:55] <k1l_> see the wiki page.
[03:56] <BlastRed> kll_ doesnt say much. im cchecking my drive for smart capability. what now ._.
[03:56] <BlastRed> nevermind.
[03:57] <Steven_M> reisio: I've done that, but groups is only showing the login group, not the extra group.
[03:58] <reisio> Steven_M: the 'extra' group?
[03:58] <reisio> Steven_M: su - user
[03:58] <reisio> Steven_M: or log out & back in
[03:58] <BlastRed> kll_ the background LONG test has begun. I can wait it out. Question still remains: Will you still be here for results? and if so how does this prove my thing is dead.
[03:58] <reisio> Steven_M: groups aren't applied immediately
[03:58] <BlastRed> thing equalling hard drive.
[03:58] <reisio> BlastRed: replacing the device is a better use of your time/effort
[03:59] <Steven_M> reisio: oh, sorry
[03:59] <k1l_> BlastRed: it will make a report with different categories. see there whats going wrong
[03:59] <BlastRed> reisio: it costs money.
[04:00] <BlastRed> kll_ okay. This is what i got, by the way when i tried to view results not knowing how long it may take: [04:00] <reisio> BlastRed: only if you spend money on it
[04:00] <k1l_> BlastRed: broken harware costs money to replace. yes. so its one broken hardware or no hardware for you
[04:00] <reisio> I'm sure the cost of a hard disk would not break your credit rating from now till December
[04:01] <nurullah> hi
[04:01] <inteus> nurullah: hi
[04:01] <BlastRed> reisio: it wont. im not a technician though. I dont know how to put in a new harddrive.
[04:01] <reisio> BlastRed: then waiting till December won't help you anyway
[04:02] <reisio> BlastRed: it's pretty simple, though
[04:02] <BlastRed> reisio: for a laptop?
[04:02] <reisio> find disassembly instructions for your laptop online, remove screws, replace drive, reverse
[04:02] <kisb> yes simple
[04:02] <inteus> BlastRed: the laptop manufacturer should have tutorials/instructions how to replace hard drive
[04:02] <reisio> hard drives in particular are usually more easily accessed than other bits
[04:02] <reisio> even on laptops, usually
[04:02] <BlastRed> reisio: i cant find any places to buy a new one
[04:02] <k1l_> BlastRed: look into the manual from your make and model.
[04:02] <reisio> unless it's an "ultrabook" :p but even some of those are simple
[04:02] <BlastRed> just now searched it up on google
[04:02] <reisio> BlastRed: new what, hard disk?
[04:03] <BlastRed> reisio: yes?
[04:03] <inteus> O_o
[04:03] <BlastRed> any websites where i can get a new one?
[04:03] <danmulvey> they keep them in the case with the razors at cvs
[04:03] <inteus> amazon
[04:03] <inteus> newegg
[04:03] <BlastRed> whats the price range anyway?
[04:03] <danmulvey> gotta get a manager to open the case though
[04:03] <Steven_M> reisio: su - user worked, thanks :)
[04:04] <reisio> BlastRed: http://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductList.aspx?Submit=ENE&IsNodeId=1&N=100167524%204814
[04:04] <reisio> BlastRed: dirt cheap to not
[04:04] <reisio> amazon will probably have one or two better deals
[04:04] <BlastRed> reisio: could you pick one thats good? i really dont know which one is great and which one is terrible. i can go for around 120
[04:05] <BlastRed> 120$
[04:05] <reisio> BlastRed: just get the cheapest that doesn't have overwhelming "this is broken" reviews
[04:05] <reisio> BlastRed: what capacity do you need?
[04:05] <BlastRed> my current one had 500 GB and that was great.
[04:06] <BlastRed> And is there a certain size? this computer is considerably small
[04:06] <inteus> inwhere #ubuntu becomes ##hardware
[04:06] <BlastRed> xD
[04:06] <BlastRed> i had a good laugh over that.
[04:06] <reisio> inteus: yay boring commentary
[04:06] <reisio> BlastRed: yes, it's probably a 2.5″ drive
[04:07] <reisio> BlastRed: starting at $35 http://is.gd/ticehe
[04:08] <bcx> How does ubuntu manages to sync X-clipboard with X-selection ?
[04:08] <reisio> and yeah, amazon has slightly better deals: http://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_sb_noss_2/185-6389976-5074225?url=search-alias%3Daps&field-keywords=500gb+2.5
[04:08] <reisio> bcx: if it's not using autocutsel, it's probably GNOME's doing
[04:10] <BlastRed> ok
[04:10] <rightarmfast> can anybody please help me?
[04:10] <reisio> rightarmfast: no, but some people probably can
[04:10] <rightarmfast> i have 2 GB RAM and 4 GB swap
[04:10] <rightarmfast> do i need to reduce swappiness?
[04:10] <reisio> rightarmfast: nope
[04:10] <rightarmfast> if yes, then to how much?
[04:11] <reisio> you could reduce swap, though
[04:11] <rightarmfast> thanks reisio
[04:11] <reisio> you won't really need more than 2GB swap
[04:11] <reisio> and that's to do with hibernation and not really swapping
[04:11] <BlastRed> i should have this : http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=9SIA5AD3GM6293 in a max of two weeks
[04:11] <rightarmfast> i thought there was a thumb rule like swap = 2 x RAM
[04:11] <BlastRed> reisio: is there anyway i could possibly contact you when i get it?
[04:11] <k1l_> rightarmfast: today you dont want to use swap in daily usage since that is very slow compared to the speed of ram.
[04:11] <BlastRed> im going to need it tbh
[04:11] <reisio> BlastRed: sit back and wait, then
[04:12] <k1l_> BlastRed: better ask in #hardware for that
[04:12] <reisio> BlastRed: it's very simple, you don't need a personal instructor
[04:12] <reisio> more than likely, on the bottom of your laptop is an obvious panel, with a couple obvious screws, behind which will be the hard disk, which you pop out and replace
[04:12] <BlastRed> it cant be that simple
[04:12] <reisio> all of it is very durable, you won't break anything
[04:13] <BlastRed> ok
[04:13] <BlastRed> ;- ; )
[04:13] <BlastRed> This place is considerably depressing
[04:13] <reisio> if you were replacing the keyboard I'd say be a little careful, but you aren't
[04:13] <rightarmfast> BlastRed i suggest you do some reading on hardware forums like tomshardware and watchh some youtube videos :)
[04:14] <birdjesus> yo
[04:14] <reisio> yoyo
[04:14] <rightarmfast> I added a RAM stick to my PC that way. i was afraid i will break something because it needs to be pushed hard
[04:14] <BlastRed> anyways, thank you members so much for the help. i appreiciate it.
[04:14] <reisio> replacing ram can be more involved, yeah
[04:14] <reisio> sometimes the contraptions they use are absurd and fragile
[04:14] <BlastRed> ive replaced ram before
[04:15] <rightarmfast> absolutely
[04:15] <reisio> for laptops in particular
[04:15] <reisio> still not usually a big deal, though
[04:15] <bcx> reisio: I'm not aware of such a GNOME feature, eg w/o gpaste
[04:15] <rightarmfast> the motherboard sagged a little and i almost had a heart attack. until the knobs clicked
[04:15] <reisio> I got this SBC once and they'd put an extra daughter board meant to be removed underneath the ram, and I was pushing down on it and if I hadn't been very delecate it would've cracked
[04:16] <k1l_> !ot
[04:16] <reisio> bcx: nor I, but that's what it'd be if it's not autocutsel
[04:16] <bcx> reisio: I didn't manage to identify the clipboard sync mecanism
[04:16] <birdjesus> guys, tell me plx how i can remove unity from ubuntu 15.10 and make gnome3 using by default?
[04:16] <birdjesus> last time i tried do this i ruined all
[04:16] <birdjesus> huh
[04:16] <reisio> bcx: does it matter?
[04:16] <reisio> birdjesus: ask ubottu about !notunity
[04:17] <bcx> reisio: I would like to use it on my custom ubuntu gnome
[04:17] <rightarmfast> is unity a DE or UI?
[04:17] <reisio> bcx: just use autocutsel
[04:17] <reisio> rightarmfast: it's both, arguably
[04:17] <reisio> most specifically, it's a particular configuration of GNOME and compiz
[04:17] <bcx> reisio: autocutsel does not resolve to select+paste issue
[04:17] <reisio> bcx: sure it does
[04:18] <bcx> reisio: not for pasting over selection, to my knowledge
[04:18] <reisio> bcx: yes, but to mine
[04:18] <k1l_> unity is "another shell for the gnome3 basis". but only on the gnome3 basis on traditional xserver.
[04:18] <birdjesus> idk. im newbie with dis. just installed ubuntu from minimal cd and chosen ubuntu-desktop :P
[04:18] <reisio> !notunity
[04:18] <reisio> birdjesus: ^
[04:19] <bcx> reisio: autocutsel -f ; autocutsel -s PRIMARY -f ??
[04:19] <rightarmfast> so it's like built over GNOME 3? like Pantheon and Cinnamon?
[04:19] <k1l_> birdjesus: install "gnome-shell" to get the gnome desktop
[04:19] <reisio> bcx: I don't recall the particulars, but you can use autocutsel
[04:19] <reisio> rightarmfast: similarly, yes
[04:19] <rightarmfast> Cool. thanks
[04:19] <sith_rocker> i am running 15.10 on an amd64 for the last week or so it has started to freeze up and i am not able to isolate the problem i have looked at the syslog and cant find anything
[04:20] <birdjesus> im already installed gnome. now i have choice between unity and gnome at load screen, but idk how to delete unity and dont crash system with this
[04:20] <k1l_> birdjesus: install ubuntu-gnome-desktop and remove ubuntu-desktop
[04:22] <birdjesus> i`ll try it. Thank you
[04:28] <avernos> how can I install de driver for android on ubuntu ?
[04:28] <sith_rocker> 3
[04:28] <k1l_> avernos: you mean fastboot and adb?
[04:29] <avernos> k1l_, no, the one for file transfers
[04:29] <avernos> seems to be some non supported driver
[04:29] <k1l_> avernos: ubuntu got mtp support in nautilus already
[04:30] <avernos> alright, might need to upgrade
[04:30] <Adix|2> hi to all
[04:30] <avernos> if i dont have support, what should i do aside from installing the mtp package?
[04:30] <k1l_> what ubuntu are you on exactly?
[04:31] <avernos> ubuntu 13
[04:31] <k1l_> avernos: "lsb_release -d"
[04:32] <k1l_> avernos: if its a 13.xx you are way too late for upgrading and not only missing features like mtp support but not having security updates since ages.
[04:33] <k1l_> if you dont like upgrading, stay on LTS in the first place. that got 5 years support
[04:33] <avernos> k1l_, will do. just realized that it seems to be a problem of my android device. lsusb doesnt show anything
[04:34] <avernos> :(
[04:34] <birdjesus_> i installed ubuntu-gnome-desktop and removed ubuntu-desktop, but default login screen from unity and choice "Ubuntu" still here .=.
[04:34] <k1l_> update-usbids
[04:35] <avernos> oh, thats a neat command
[04:35] <k1l_> birdjesus_: "sudo apt-get remove unity" then "sudo apt-get autoremove"
[04:35] <sruli> i am cloning a few ubuntu partitions to some laptops with pre-installed windows, the original is uefi, however 1 laptop has windows installed in legacy mode, can i clone the partitions and install grub to regular boot partition or do i need to do a full install on the legacy?
[04:35] <k1l_> need to leave, bye
[04:35] <avernos> thanks~
[04:36] <birdjesus_> last time tried do this and ruined all, i hope this time all will be nice huh
[04:36] <birdjesus_> thank you for help, bye
[04:50] <VictoriaXOXO> Hmm. When Ubuntu is just installed, do I still visit my graphics card vendor and motherboard vendor to download chipset drivers and such?
[04:52] <cairaptor> So after updating my (optimus) laptop to 15.10, my graphics aren't working. I can get past Plymouth, but then it goes to the low-graphics message in TTY2, and in TTY7 is just this - http://imgur.com/pWnwXH6
[04:53] <cairaptor> Looking at the lightdm/X logs, it looks like the nvidia drivers aren't loading, but after purging all nvidia/bumblebee stuff and trying to get nouveau or even just the Intel drivers running, it's still doing the same things
[04:54] <cairaptor> What would be the next step in trying to solve this? Purgin/reinstalling xorg and lightdm didn't make a difference either.
[04:56] <sruli> i am cloning a few ubuntu partitions to some laptops with pre-installed windows, the original is uefi, however 1 laptop has windows installed in legacy mode, can i clone the partitions and install grub to regular boot partition or do i need to do a full install on the legacy?
[04:59] <Guest35808> Hi ,, i am trying to copy data from My ubuntu to Android device. Error while copying. libmtp error: Could not send object.
[05:00] <SeriouslyLaugh> ping flood
[05:00] <oOoDsGoOo> Hi, I am trying to sync music to my ipod and I can't seem to find any program to do it
[05:06] <Mariela> !!!Para ver mi Videos Gratis solo por Hoy dale Click al Video///Only Today My Video Free Clik The Video!!!
[05:06] <Mariela> http://bit.ly/1Myulvq
[05:07] <prakash> Hi
[05:07] <prakash> if I upgrade ubuntu 15.04 to 15.10, how much I need to download?
[05:08] <somsip> prakash: depends how much you've got installed
[05:08] <SemiNus> hi
[05:08] <SemiNus> what is wrong about this command, please?
[05:08] <prakash> somsip i update my ubuntu weekly, but not yet upgraded
[05:08] <SemiNus> grep "people" -R ./ | xargs "kwrite"
[05:09] <SeriouslyLaugh> if you run sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade it'll tell you how much is required for you to download before it actually completes the upgrade prakash
[05:10] <somsip> SemiNus: kwrite probably doesn't take as input the output that grep will provide. You may want grep to only output the filename
[05:10] <prakash> got it thanks SeriouslyLaugh somsip
[05:11] <SemiNus> somsip, do you have the option in mind to tell grep to only give out the filenames, or shall I look it up in the manpage?
[05:11] <SemiNus> it works!!!!
[05:11] <SemiNus> somsip, --files-with-matches
[05:12] <SemiNus> grep "people" --files-with-matches -R ./ | xargs "kwrite"
[05:12] <SemiNus> @ somsip
[05:12] <SemiNus> thank you soooo much :))
[05:12] <somsip> SemiNus: man is always worth checking
[05:12] <taehyub> #e
[05:12] <taehyub> join #e
[05:12] <somsip> taehyub: "/join #e"
[05:13] <Guest35808> Hi ,, i am trying to copy data from My ubuntu to Android device. Error while copying. libmtp error: Could not send object.
[05:13] <somsip> Guest35808: using what method?
[05:14] <SeriouslyLaugh> sudo apt-get install mtpfs then eject and reconnect your device
[05:15] <prakash> ubuntu
[05:21] <Guest35808> somsip, simply drag drop
[05:21] <somsip> Guest35808: so it's connected via USB?
[05:21] <samthewildone> question, I noticed when I use my hotkeys for certain programs, they always seem to open in the background instead of the forefront.
[05:21] <samthewildone> Is there a way to fix that ?
[05:21] <Guest35808> somsip, yes connected
[05:22] <VictoriaXOXO> Hmm. When Ubuntu is just installed, do I still visit my graphics card vendor and motherboard vendor to download chipset drivers and such?
[05:23] <SeriouslyLaugh> VictoriaXOXO you can but generally speaking most hardware drivers should install automatically
[05:23] <SeriouslyLaugh> if everything is working, you are all set
[05:23] <SeriouslyLaugh> don't forget to run sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade
[05:23] <VictoriaXOXO> SeriouslyLaugh: Well... I get tearing while scrolling in Firefox and when playing videos. :(
[05:24] <SeriouslyLaugh> ok then yeah it might be time to look into a display driver
[05:24] <SeriouslyLaugh> though that could be caused by other things
[05:24] <NetworkingPro> Using tcpdump anyone know how t capture filter to a specific venor?
[05:24] <SeriouslyLaugh> do you happen to know the specs of the machine? ie, the GPU driver you'll need?
[05:24] <NetworkingPro> ie. the first 6?
[05:24] <VictoriaXOXO> SeriouslyLaugh: What other things? Please mention some for future testing. :)
[05:25] <VictoriaXOXO> SeriouslyLaugh: GeForce GTX 660.
[05:25] <SeriouslyLaugh> VictoriaXOXO check this thread: http://askubuntu.com/questions/450593/how-do-i-eliminate-screen-tearing-on-14-04-and-xbmc-with-nvidia-331
[05:25] <SeriouslyLaugh> could be software settings, but likely is display driver related
[05:26] <VictoriaXOXO> SeriouslyLaugh: Let me read. Give me a minute or two.
[05:27] <SeriouslyLaugh> VictoriaXOXO upgrading your display driver is a pretty painless procedure but requires some basic terminal know-how https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia
[05:28] <VictoriaXOXO> SeriouslyLaugh: I'll bookmark both links, but I can never read the askubuntu threads. I hate how the format is.
[05:28] <VictoriaXOXO> So messy!
[05:29] <SeriouslyLaugh> actually disregard that askubuntu thread
[05:29] <SeriouslyLaugh> that was specific to tearing occuring after installing the nvidia driver
[05:29] <VictoriaXOXO> SeriouslyLaugh: Oh, okay. I'll remove the bookmark then.
[05:30] <SeriouslyLaugh> yeah -- concentrate on installing the nvidia driver. be careful with this, it's easy to mess something up and end up with just a black screen
[05:30] <VictoriaXOXO> SeriouslyLaugh: nvidia.com wants me to download "352.63", but the latest in the manager is like "346". :/
[05:31] <VictoriaXOXO> SeriouslyLaugh: Oh, I do NOT like that sound of that.
[05:31] <VictoriaXOXO> I can't afford losing this PC.
[05:31] <SeriouslyLaugh> try the very latest from the vendor and if that doesn't work, step back a version or two
[05:32] <SeriouslyLaugh> don't worry if it fails or something -- your data will always be intact
[05:32] <VictoriaXOXO> SeriouslyLaugh: Is this harder than I'm making it out to be? What if I try the latest? How do I then go back to the open driver, uninstall that latest driver, and try another one? :/
[05:32] <lotuspsychje> VictoriaXOXO: wich card chipset and ubuntu version?
[05:33] <VictoriaXOXO> lotuspsychje: GPU? GeForce GTX 660 and 14.04.
[05:34] <lotuspsychje> VictoriaXOXO: i think we had users that need to install ubuntu 15.10 for that card
[05:34] <lotuspsychje> VictoriaXOXO: you getting black screens?
[05:35] <VictoriaXOXO> lotuspsychje: Noooooo!
[05:35] <VictoriaXOXO> lotuspsychje: No black screens, but tearing.
[05:35] <SeriouslyLaugh> this thread reccomends nvidia-319 http://www.webupd8.org/2013/08/using-nvidia-graphics-drivers-with.html
[05:35] <SeriouslyLaugh> this one says use 331: http://askubuntu.com/questions/452556/how-to-set-up-nvidia-optimus-bumblebee-in-14-04
[05:36] <Sonu> Hi , i am unable to copy my data from ubuntu to my yureka android mobile.
[05:36] <Sonu> http://imgur.com/6zX990u
[05:36] <VictoriaXOXO> SeriouslyLaugh: Uhhhhhh. What do I make out of all of this?
[05:36] <SeriouslyLaugh> i would follow this tutorial: http://askubuntu.com/questions/452556/how-to-set-up-nvidia-optimus-bumblebee-in-14-04
[05:37] <SeriouslyLaugh> personally
[05:37] <SeriouslyLaugh> see how far you get. report back with any issuse
[05:37] <VictoriaXOXO> SeriouslyLaugh: But isn't that for optimus cards?
[05:37] <bcx> Running autocutsel opens a few pixels window on the bottom right of the screen, how can I hide it ?
[05:38] <lotuspsychje> SeriouslyLaugh: the card is not an optimus card
[05:38] <SeriouslyLaugh> oops
[05:39] <VictoriaXOXO> I really wish this was easier. :(
[05:39] <lotuspsychje> VictoriaXOXO: try switching drivers from your existing additional drivers list
[05:39] <VictoriaXOXO> My head hurts.
[05:40] <lotuspsychje> VictoriaXOXO: and choose the driver that works best for your system
[05:40] <VictoriaXOXO> lotuspsychje: I will, but why is it such a guessing game?
[05:40] <lotuspsychje> VictoriaXOXO: every card/system performs otherwise on different drivers
[05:40] <SeriouslyLaugh> VictoriaXOXO there isn't really an out-of-the-box solution due to the fact that you'll be installing a proprietary driver
[05:40] <SeriouslyLaugh> requires some effort and trial+error
[05:40] <VictoriaXOXO> lotuspsychje: SeriouslyLaugh: Okay. :(
[05:41] <lotuspsychje> VictoriaXOXO: if you cant enter your ubuntu anymore try the recoverymode
[05:41] <lotuspsychje> !recovery | VictoriaXOXO
[05:41] <VictoriaXOXO> lotuspsychje: I'll write them down.
[05:41] <lotuspsychje> VictoriaXOXO: you cant break an ubuntu system so easyly
[05:42] <lotuspsychje> VictoriaXOXO: if you tested all drivers and none perform good, ill suggest ubuntu 15.10
[05:42] <Sonu> Hi , i am unable to copy my data from ubuntu to my yureka android mobile. http://imgur.com/6zX990u
[05:42] <VictoriaXOXO> lotuspsychje: I haven't tried any of them, yet. Too scared to move away from nouveau.
[05:42] <lotuspsychje> VictoriaXOXO: if things go wrong=> recoverymode/fix broken packages
[05:43] <lotuspsychje> VictoriaXOXO: if nouveau has tearing, better test another driver
[05:43] <VictoriaXOXO> lotuspsychje: Yes, I know, but I'm scared of freezes and other scary things with closed drivers.
[05:43] <VictoriaXOXO> Or am I just being paranoid?
[05:43] <lotuspsychje> VictoriaXOXO: yeah dont be too scary, its only a testing :p
[05:44] <SeriouslyLaugh> the nvidia drivers are actually pretty solid. if you try to install and it fails, it'll tell you.
[05:44] <VictoriaXOXO> :|
[05:44] <lotuspsychje> VictoriaXOXO: you cant just loose data with switching drivers
[05:44] <VictoriaXOXO> lotuspsychje: Oh, trust me, I can.
[05:44] <VictoriaXOXO> XD
[05:44] <SeriouslyLaugh> VictoriaXOXO do you know if you're running a 32- or 64-bit machine?
[05:44] <VictoriaXOXO> 64.
[05:44] <SeriouslyLaugh> VictoriaXOXO the vendor says to use this driver http://www.nvidia.com/download/driverResults.aspx/95159/en-us
[05:45] <SeriouslyLaugh> i would start there
[05:45] <lotuspsychje> VictoriaXOXO: if things go really wrong and recoverymode doesnt work, you can always install 15.10 next to 14.04
[05:45] <VictoriaXOXO> SeriouslyLaugh: That's what I told you before.
[05:45] <VictoriaXOXO> SeriouslyLaugh: lotuspsychje: Shouldn't I stick with the additional drivers list? Feels safer?
[05:45] <lotuspsychje> VictoriaXOXO: i suggest you test existing drivers from your list before you go to nvidia website
[05:45] <lotuspsychje> yes
[05:48] <VictoriaXOXO> lotuspsychje: SeriouslyLaugh: VLC crashed earlier when trying to play a .mkv file. Could that have been caused by using nouveau?
[05:49] <lotuspsychje> VictoriaXOXO: that could be
[05:49] <VictoriaXOXO> lotuspsychje: SeriouslyLaugh: Correction... VLC and then entire system/GUI crashed.
[05:49] <VictoriaXOXO> Not only VLC.
[05:49] <lotuspsychje> VictoriaXOXO: you can try launching vlc from terminal to see errors
[05:52] <lotuspsychje> VictoriaXOXO: but screen tearing mostly indicates driver thats not working well
[05:52] <VictoriaXOXO> lotuspsychje: I really hope I can fix it.
[05:52] <VictoriaXOXO> Tearing is... a nightmare.
[05:53] <lotuspsychje> VictoriaXOXO: try driver switch :p
[05:53] <VictoriaXOXO> lotuspsychje: I will.
[05:53] <VictoriaXOXO> As soon as I get enough courage.
[05:54] <Sonu> Hi , i am unable to copy my data from ubuntu to my yureka android mobile. http://imgur.com/6zX990u
[05:54] <lotuspsychje> Sonu: enabled dev mode on phone?
[05:57] <Sonu> yes
[05:58] <lotuspsychje> Sonu: ubuntu version?
[05:58] <Sonu> 14
[05:58] <Sonu> 14.04
[05:59] <lotuspsychje> Sonu: should be working
[06:00] <lotuspsychje> Sonu: try a tail -f /var/log/syslog and plugin your phone
[06:04] <rahuldev> Hi
[06:04] <rahuldev> What's that icon name in ubuntu... circle icon... I mean ubuntu icon.
[06:04] <rahuldev> ?
[06:05] <lotuspsychje> rahuldev: its african people circle
[06:05] <rahuldev> lotuspsychje, haha..
[06:05] <rahuldev> lotuspsychje, is it a joke.. or are you serious?
[06:05] <lotuspsychje> rahuldev: im serious, thats the philosophy
[06:06] <rahuldev> lotuspsychje, cool!
[06:06] <lotuspsychje> rahuldev: or do you mean 'dash' icon on left corner up(name)?
[06:06] <djangoMeth2> There's no philosophy
[06:06] <rahuldev> lotuspsychje.. aha dash icon. yes...
[06:07] <lotuspsychje> djangoMeth2: the circle has 3 ppl standing in a circle, look it up
[06:11] <SeriouslyLaugh> http://askubuntu.com/questions/42724/whats-the-meaning-of-the-ubuntu-logo-where-does-it-come-from
[06:12] <lotuspsychje> SeriouslyLaugh: thank you :p
[06:12] <SeriouslyLaugh> :)
[06:14] <SeriouslyLaugh> also it's officially referred to as the circle of friends on the brand guidelines
[06:14] <SeriouslyLaugh> http://design.ubuntu.com/brand/ubuntu-logo
[06:24] <sith_rocker> 5
[06:37] <sruli> how do i set a new uuid on a vpn connection?
[06:42] <lotuspsychje> !uuid | sruli
[06:42] <Rahju> Hi all
[06:43] <sruli> lotuspsychje: i asked about generating new ones, i moved over a bunch of vpn connections to a new machine and i need it to recognize it!
[07:12] <cairaptor_> So my X and/or lightdm config got borked over updating to 15.10. I'm currently booted into a live-usb of 14.10, will there be some config files that are likely to be compatible that I can copy across?
[07:12] <lotuspsychje> cairaptor: 14.10 is eol
[07:14] <cairaptor_> eol indicating what in this context?
[07:14] <brylie> cairaptor_, end of life http://www.ubuntu.com/info/release-end-of-life
[07:14] <baizon> !eol | cairaptor_
[07:14] <lotuspsychje> cairaptor: try the 15.10 recoverymode
[07:15] <lotuspsychje> !recovery | cairaptor
[07:15] <cairaptor_> Recovery doesn't help. Just goes to the same situation as a normal boot (i.e. finishing Plymouth, not reaching login)
[07:15] <cairaptor_> I'm just using a 14.10 boot because it's what I had and I don't have unlimited bandwidth
[07:16] <lotuspsychje> cairaptor: did you try fix broken packages from the recoverymode?
[07:16] <lotuspsychje> cairaptor: you need to findout what brakes your 15.10 boot first
[07:17] <lotuspsychje> cairaptor: maybe wrong graphics driver?
[07:17] <cairaptor_> Nothing's broken that I can tell.
[07:17] <brylie> cairaptor_, have you tried booting into text mode?
[07:17] <brylie> http://ask.xmodulo.com/boot-into-command-line-ubuntu-debian.html
[07:17] <cairaptor_> lotuspsychje: I think so, possibly. I've tried purging/reinstalling most graphics related packages
[07:18] <brylie> cairaptor_, what graphics card do you have?
[07:18] <Kartagis> lotuspsychje: http://i.imgur.com/9a9Lu6C.png
[07:18] <cairaptor_> It's a hybrid, so a nv GT 525m + an intel
[07:18] <cairaptor_> Which is probably the problem, it's been nothing but a pain with linux
[07:18] <cairaptor_> Or windows for that matter
[07:19] <lotuspsychje> wow@ Kartagis
[07:19] <lotuspsychje> cairaptor: you need nvidia-prime for optimus cards
[07:19] <remona_dash> in liveCD is there a way to change to nvidia blob driver without restart
[07:19] <cairaptor_> It's installed
[07:19] <remona_dash> liveCD
[07:19] <lotuspsychje> cairaptor: wich driver active?
[07:19] <remona_dash> liveusb
[07:20] <cairaptor_> nvidia-352 I think
[07:20] <brylie> cairaptor_, did you do something similar to this? http://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/120955/ubuntu-14-04-nvidia-proprietary-drivers-installation
[07:20] <lotuspsychje> Kartagis: did you find your wanted pics?
[07:20] <cairaptor_> TTY7 normally contains something along the lines of http://imgur.com/pWnwXH6 on a boot
[07:20] <Kartagis> lotuspsychje: I've just come to work, going to look now
[07:21] <remona_dash> or do we have any ubuntu derivatives with nvidia driver preinstalled?
[07:22] <cairaptor_> Will text-mode do anything beyond switching to one of the first six TTYs during a normal boot?
[07:23] <lotuspsychje> cairaptor: try something less 340 or 346
[07:24] <cairaptor> Okay, will do
[07:26] <mascot66991> Hie I played around with compiz yesterday and have one problem many time the non maximized screen's get below the top bar of ubuntu
[07:26] <cairaptor> Just purge my current version and install the other? Or do you want me to do some reconfiguring too?
[07:26] <mascot66991> also i use guake and when i hit cls i cannot see the first line of terminal
[07:28] <lotuspsychje> cairaptor: purge current yes
[07:39] <sruli> i got a problem with my ubuntu 14.04 most icons do not launch, from the unity launcher nothing at all launchers, what can be the cause of this?>
[07:41] <cairaptor> lotuspsychje, I run `sudo apt-get install nvidia-346`, but in the overview for the list of packages to be installed, nvidia-352 has been marked for installation too
[07:45] <jasonj8> I've had a lot more luck with the drivers from the nvidia website
[07:46] <root__> +1
[07:46] <root__> show
[07:46] <root__> exit
[07:46] <root__> exit
[07:50] <lotuspsychje> cairaptor: 352 needs uninstall first
[07:52] <cairaptor> It is. It's being marked for installation again
[07:52] <cairaptor> http://imgur.com/eTQXSnz
[07:53] <lotuspsychje> cairaptor: you need to purge 352 first
[07:54] <cairaptor> I have. `apt-get purge nvidia-352` spits out `Package 'nvidia-352' is not installed, so not removed`
[07:55] <lotuspsychje> !info nvidia-352
[07:55] <lotuspsychje> hmmz
[07:56] <brylie> What happens if you forbid the package? http://askubuntu.com/a/76075/81084
[07:57] <mascot66991> my topmenubar of ubuntu is allowing program to start just below it
[07:58] <mascot66991> how can i fix this
[07:58] <brylie> mascot66991, are you using dual monitor display?
[07:58] <cairaptor> brylie: I don't have an /etc/apt/preferences file, just a preferences.d directory in the same location. Create it?
[07:59] <brylie> Hm, lets see if there are more recent instructions.
[07:59] <brylie> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PinningHowto#Pinning_Methods
[08:00] <mascot66991> brylie: no I am not.
[08:00] <brylie> Those instructions refer to /etc/apt/preferences as well.
[08:00] <brylie> mascot66991, what version of Ubuntu are you running?
[08:00] <Jiffer> Could someone point me to a chat for new linux users?
[08:00] <mascot66991> brylie: 15.04 it was fine yesterday i messed it up after some compiz config
[08:01] <cairaptor> Just creating it seems to have worked, but apt-get won't install 346 citing 352 as an unmet dependancy
[08:01] <mascot66991> though it realted to switching of workspace
[08:01] <brylie> Ah, OK. Can you upload a screenshot somewhere? E.g. imgur?
[08:01] <mascot66991> yes sure...
[08:01] <brylie> cairaptor, what dependency does it mention?
[08:01] <cairaptor> nvidia-352
[08:01] <lotuspsychje> !manual | Jiffer start here maybe?
[08:02] <brylie> A circular dependency?
[08:02] <cairaptor> Just uploading a shot now
[08:02] <darkblue> Hi, I'm trying to install 14.04.3 on my new laptop and it's been reading the installation dvd for about 3 hours now but the cursor won't move and the desktop is frozen
[08:02] <Jiffer> i just need to know where they put the terminal
[08:02] <brylie> LEts check out these instructions, which are recent: http://ubuntuhandbook.org/index.php/2015/06/install-nvidia-352-21-ubuntu-1404/
[08:02] <Jiffer> im runing in virtual box
[08:02] <brylie> It recommends a ppa.
[08:03] <brylie> This also seems a bit more out on a limb.
[08:03] <cairaptor> http://imgur.com/AhQIFdi
[08:04] <darkblue> Pls help me
[08:04] <cairaptor> 352 can install fine, we were just trying to get a stable system though. It's not dependant on 346
[08:04] <Jiffer> i got it nvm, yeah ill check out online to see how this works, I would love to learn more about it and try a versions
[08:04] <Jiffer> what version is everyone running here ?
[08:04] <brylie> darkblue, can you boot from USB?
[08:04] <darkblue> Am I in the right channel?
[08:05] <lotuspsychje> !ask | darkblue
[08:05] <darkblue> I can't do anything right now as it's churning the dvd drive and the mouse is frozen
[08:05] <Jiffer> The big question I have is why cant i run thi in full screen on virtual box. Waht am i missing
[08:05] <brylie> darkblue, how did you burn the DVD?
[08:06] <brylie> darkblue, can you boot in to another operating system?
[08:07] <darkblue> I downloaded the iso from the ubuntu websire in windows 10 and burnt it with the windows dvd burning software
[08:07] <lotuspsychje> Jiffer: try the #vbox channel
[08:07] <Jiffer> thanks lotuspsychje
[08:07] <lotuspsychje> darkblue: dont you have an usb stick somewhere?
[08:07] <mascot66991> brylie: http://imgur.com/4L2KVDh
[08:07] <darkblue> I haven't tried rebooting yet in case the bootloader is broken
[08:07] <brylie> cairaptor, what about nvidia-340? http://packages.ubuntu.com/wily/nvidia-340
[08:08] <brylie> mascot66991, are you running Ubuntu MATE?
[08:09] <mascot66991> no Its ubuntu and yesterday i followed macubuntu from noob's labs insrtuction though as i remeber that was not the problem even after that too...
[08:09] <darkblue> How long would it usually take to install? I comnedted to the wifi to let it update as it installs but have a very slow connection
[08:10] <mascot66991> brylie : no Its ubuntu and yesterday i followed macubuntu from noob's labs insrtuction though as i remeber that was not the problem even after that too
[08:10] <darkblue> Should I try to power down the laptop and reboot?
[08:10] <cairaptor> 340 doesn't mark 352. Probably should gave tried that
[08:10] <brylie> darkblue, yep. Reboot into an installed OS, if possible.
[08:11] <brylie> darkblue, then you can try installing the image on a USB drive.
[08:12] <darkblue> Just one more thing then, I selected "install alongside windows boot manager" and had shrank the windows partition to leave a raw partition on the disk, will the installer know to put linux in the raw partition?
[08:12] <lotuspsychje> !dualboot | darkblue
[08:13] <brylie> darkblue, during the installation, it should allow you to select the partition. Just be sure you select the correct one :-)
[08:13] <darkblue> Yeah, i know, but it's not working
[08:13] <darkblue> The installer gui has crashed
[08:13] <brylie> mascot66991, there may be a related bug report worth reading https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/compiz/+bug/1297101
[08:14] <mascot66991> brylie: yes i will read it but how do you find this link
[08:14] <darkblue> But the dvd drive has been churning for hours
[08:14] <mascot66991> just curios
[08:14] <kelvin> how do I join a channel here
[08:14] <brylie> I searched for 'compiz top menu covering application bar'
[08:14] <brylie> There may be better keywords to use though.
[08:15] <gu3sts> Kelvin type /j #channel
[08:15] <mascot66991> brylie: this is exactly my problem will read and do..
[08:16] <amazoniantoad> Best graphics card for linux?
[08:16] <brylie> mascot66991, you can add yourself to the list of people affected by the bug.
[08:16] <brylie> amazoniantoad, what do you plan to do with your computer? Gaming? Design? Video?
[08:17] <brylie> amazoniantoad, is it a work computer for daily things?
[08:18] <amazoniantoad> brylie: gaming, video game design, programming
[08:18] <amazoniantoad> and daily things
[08:18] <amazoniantoad> brylie: So far I found the gtx970
[08:18] <amazoniantoad> but it seems dated
[08:18] <brylie> amazoniantoad, do you want good open-source support from your video card?
[08:19] <amazoniantoad> brylie: As long as there are drivers for it that I can get
[08:19] <cairaptor> Okay, 340 installed fine without taking 352 in as well
[08:19] <amazoniantoad> I chose this keyboard: http://www.amazon.com/Aluminum-Colorful-Backlights-Mechanical-Keyboard/dp/B015SQK8ZC/ref=pd_sim_sbs_147_5?ie=UTF8&dpID=51N58B8H0ML&dpSrc=sims&preST=_AC_UL160_SR160%2C160_&refRID=18D4Q13TQCYE40S89NX7
[08:19] <amazoniantoad> Because I'm fancy
[08:20] <brylie> amazoniantoad, Phoronix might have useful information http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=article&item=open-power-value&num=7
[08:20] <sruli> i need some help here please, none of my launchers are working (ubuntu 14.04) i see the icons in unity but i click forever nothing is launching
[08:20] <amazoniantoad> brylie: thanks
[08:21] <amazoniantoad> brylie: does radeon support sli?
[08:21] <brylie> amazoniantoad, based on that article, ATI Radeon HD 6870 or NVIDIA GeForce GTX 650 work well on open-source drivers.
[08:22] <amazoniantoad> brylie: currently I have a GTX 570
[08:24] <brylie> I am not sure if ATI supports SLI.
[08:24] <amazoniantoad> hm
[08:24] <brylie> They seem to have a thing called Crossfire: http://lifehacker.com/the-difference-between-nvidia-sli-and-amd-crossfire-1555235577
[08:24] <cairaptor> Driver installed fine, X still isn't working. Kicks me straight into the low graphics warning in TTY2
[08:25] <amazoniantoad> brylie: oh wow, crossfire already beats sli
[08:25] <amazoniantoad> >compatible with other cards in the same family and with different ram configurations
[08:26] <auzty> any ideas why my server network unstable, somehow get packet loss 23% , somehow 0%
[08:26] <auzty> i didn't have any ideas what must i do
[08:26] <auzty> seem like the network is heavy
[08:31] <sruli> none of my icons are working (ubuntu 14.04) i see the icons in unity but i click forever nothing is launching, i can only open shortcuts which are on the desktop
[08:33] <amazoniantoad> brylie: my current graphics card outperforms the radeon 6870
[08:33] <amazoniantoad> geforce gtx 570
[08:33] <amazoniantoad> brylie: http://www.videocardbenchmark.net/compare.php?cmp[]=22&cmp[]=15
[08:35] <brylie> auzty, your question may be a bit off topic. Perhaps ask in #networking
[08:37] <brylie> !offtopic | auzty
[08:37] <auzty> sorry
[08:37] <brylie> sruli, where are you clicking icons?
[08:38] <brylie> auzty, no worries. You might get a well-informed answer in the #networking channel. There are currently over 1000 users there.
[08:38] <sruli> brylie: in unity and in side bat
[08:38] <sruli> side bar
[08:39] <brylie> sruli, the side bar icons should launch the application.
[08:39] <auzty> sure, thanks you very much brylie :)
[08:39] <brylie> sruli, have you tried rebooting?
[08:39] <sruli> brylie: 100 times
[08:39] <sruli> also tried from tty --reinstall ubuntu-desktop & unity
[08:40] <sruli> brylie: when i click on anything the curser start spining and after a few seconds it stops
[08:41] <brylie> sruli, OK, hm. What icons are you clicking? E.g. Firefox?
[08:41] <sruli> brylie: firefox, terminal, libre office, anyhting (ctrl+alt+t also doesnt work)
[08:42] <brylie> sruli, this may be relevant: http://askubuntu.com/questions/680795/unity-launcher-not-launching-apps-or-opening-links-need-restart
[08:42] <brylie> It may be a problem with compiz. Compiz is having a day.
[08:42] <sruli> will try it thankls
[08:46] <brylie> sruli, the proposed answer may not work, but is worth a try.
[08:48] <sruli> brylie: sudo apt-get remove compizconfig-settings-manager = is not installed, might this be the cause?
[08:49] <brylie> Well, no. However, installing compizconig-settings-manager gives you some options to change Compiz behavior.
[08:49] <brylie> sruli, try the following in your console:
[08:50] <brylie> sudo unity&disown
[08:51] <sruli> brylie: in middle of purging compiz
[08:52] <brylie> OK.
[08:52] <lesshaste> hi.. is there any way to enable an OOM killer on ubuntu?
[08:53] <lesshaste> It is very annoying to have to turn the PC off at the wall
[08:53] <sruli> brylie: i lost connectivity on that pc, when can i download all those packages from?
[08:53] <geirha> lesshaste: you can adjust how it uses swap, or disable swap
[08:54] <brylie> sruli, you lost network connection?
[08:54] <geirha> I assume you are entering "swapping hell" when you decide to pull the plug
[08:54] <sruli> brylie: on that machine, i am working from tty so cant check the issue
[08:55] <brylie> OK, can you run 'ifconfig renew' ?
[08:56] <lesshaste> geirha, thanks
[08:56] <brylie> sruli, or try:
[08:56] <brylie> sudo dhcient -v -r
[09:00] <sruli> brylie: cant get it to work, can i download from somewhere?
[09:05] <cairaptor> Okay, with semi stable nvidia drivers installed, this is my syslog from calling service lightdm start
[09:05] <cairaptor> http://paste.ubuntu.com/13310194/
[09:07] <cairaptor> I'm guessing the gpu-manager messages are the important ones. /etc/modprobe.d is indeed a directory and not a file, but that is what it's meant to be, no? I'm not sure what the updates alternatives are though
[09:14] <fargome> anyone alive here ?
[09:15] <danatwork> barely
[09:16] <cairaptor> Also possibly of import is that in my Xorg log, it says that the build operating system is kernel 3.19, while the current OS kernel is 4.2. Not that I know what the build OS is, or if it's relevant. Xorg.conf: paste.ubuntu.com/13310291
[09:16] <ekarlso> I gotta be stupid today, how can I umount a tmpfs that lsof and fuser says has no pids ?
[09:17] <ekarlso> without using -l
[09:28] <brylie> sruli, it will probably be best if you can connect to the Internet.
[09:28] <brylie> I am not sure how to manually download/install packages with so many dependencies.
[09:29] <sruli> brylie: couldnt, backed up my data from tty, almost finished full sys reinstall
[09:36] <sruli> brylie: tnx for trying
[09:39] <nils17> hi. anybody know where to disable the warning "Granted permissions without asking for password" on a live system?
[10:30] <maxvi> hi! I installed ubuntu 15.10 on my computer and I have no sound I checked settings and there everything is fine
[10:43] <jzk> "Workspace Creation" "dynamics"
[10:43] <jzk> cool but this stack only grows down, and i want it to grow up
[10:43] <jzk> and as such, growing both ways would be best
[10:46] <Guest70247> Hi ... i want to install Windows in Ubuntu using VM Box . i have windows setup in Usb Drive ( Pen Drive). I have installed VM box but not able to Boot pendrive in Vm box to install windows...
[10:47] <gu3sts> Anyone have the knowledge of support contracts?
[10:54] <syntroPi> maxvi you could check from a terminal invoking alsamixer
[11:10] <slabby> I've just run the upgrade from 15.04 to 15.10 and it has crashed on installing packages. The last I have in terminal is "Processing triggers for bamfdaemon (0.5.2~bzr0+15.10.20150627.1-0ubuntu1)... Rebuilding /usr/share/applications/bamf-2.index... Error in function:". What should I do?
[11:11] <dym> Hey! What happened to the Utopic Unicorn Sources Lists? (14.10) All seem to 404 for me
[11:11] <cfhowlett> !eol | dym
[11:14] <norc> Hi. http://pastie.org/10562401 -- Can someone tell me where the heck those 12G usage comes from on / ?
[11:15] <norc> Or for more context, df -h reports some disk usage, that just does not match with my du output.
[11:15] <norc> It reports my root to be completely filled, while I just cannot figure out how, where or why.
[11:19] <Pricey> norc: fwiw, the '-x' option might be useful 'skip directories on different file systems'. I also use 'baobab' for exploring disk usage.
[11:28] <anonymous> Hi
[11:28] <Guest81646> Hola
[11:29] <shahar188> Hello
[11:29] <manhaton> hi
[11:29] <Ubik_> bonjour
[11:29] <Guest81646> hi
[11:29] <manhaton> who is first ? :)
[11:30] <Guest81646> yes
[11:30] <shahar188> I'm here to help
[11:30] <manhaton> ok .. i have a Q.
[11:31] <inteus> !ask | manhaton
[11:31] <inteus> :)
[11:31] <manhaton> i want to bring up eth1 without an ip address .. "ifconfig eth1 up" works with no options in /etc/interfaces .. but i cannot find howto do it on boot .. google returns the same stuff time and time again but it all configures WITH an ip address not without .. any ideas ?
[11:32] <manhaton> (sorry my typing is slow)
[11:32] <shahar188> post your /etc/network/interfaces
[11:32] <manhaton> you mean pastebin ?
[11:33] <shahar188> you can write it here if it's short
[11:33] <cofffeebean> msg nickserv identify sudsbuster
[11:34] <auronandace> manhaton: why do you want to bring up an interface but not assign an ip to it?
[11:34] <manhaton> ok .. my /etc/interfaces has the standard loopback entry
[11:34] <manhaton> and an static ip for eth0
[11:34] <manhaton> this all works fine
[11:34] <manhaton> i have commented out all eth1 options
[11:35] <manhaton> and uninstalled network-manager because it simply would not do what i told it
[11:36] <manhaton> all i am wanting to know is how to run command: ifconfig eth1 up .. at boot time .. would custom init.d script work ?
[11:36] <manhaton> i use eth1 for virtualbox machines only
[11:36] <shahar188> it will work in init.d
[11:36] <manhaton> should i write my own script ?
[11:37] <shahar188> why not
[11:37] <shahar188> only one line
[11:37] <manhaton> ok
[11:37] <manhaton> i presume that would be the simplest way then ?
[11:38] <geirha> why do you not want to use interfaces(5) for that?
[11:38] <manhaton> there is no way to do this using /etc/interfaces ?
[11:39] <manhaton> why does everybody want to know why i want to do what i want to do ?
[11:40] <auronandace> manhaton: to better understand your end goal, many people belive there is only one way to do it but that may not be the case
[11:40] <geirha> Because /etc/network/interfaces is Ubuntu's way of configuring linux network interfaces
[11:40] <geirha> (in addition to network-manager)
[11:41] <manhaton> i ditched NM ..
[11:41] <manhaton> my "goal" is clearly stated ..
[11:42] <shahar188> try putting the script in init.d
[11:42] <shahar188> just try
[11:42] <manhaton> shahar188: that sounds like a challenge ;)
[11:42] <mcphail> manhaton: an alternative would be to add the command as a cron job with the time marked as "@reboot"
[11:42] <shahar188> http://askubuntu.com/questions/335242/how-to-install-an-init-d-script-in-ubuntu
[11:43] <manhaton> already reading: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuBootupHowto
[11:43] <cfhowlett> shahar188, are those clock chimes I hear?
[11:43] <geirha> an @reboot job isn't only run during boot though
[11:43] <auronandace> manhaton: bear in mind 12.04 and 14.04 uses upstart, 15.04 and 15.10 uses systemd
[11:44] <shahar188> cfhowlett: what do you mean?
[11:44] <mcphail> geirha: When else is it run? "man 5 crontab" says "Run once, at startup."
[11:44] <cfhowlett> shahar188, ignore me.
[11:44] <manhaton> i am 14.04
[11:45] <geirha> mcphail: it runs whenever the cron daemon starts
[11:45] <geirha> so if you restart the cron service, all @reboot jobs will be run again
[11:45] <game0> hey guys, there's a program called ssl something which I don't remember it's for connecting to my server by my laptop, I have installed it before but I forgot the name and how it works
[11:45] <shahar188> cfhowlett: no :)
[11:45] <game0> can someone help me with details
[11:46] <auronandace> game0: openssh
[11:46] <shahar188> openssl?
[11:46] <slabby> gamr0: ssh?
[11:46] <game0> yes I think the ssh
[11:46] <game0> I have installed it in my pc and I don't know how to start it
[11:46] <auronandace> game0: ssh username@ipaddress
[11:47] <auronandace> game0: you will need to install openssh-server on the machine that you want to connect to
[11:47] <game0> yes, it's already installed
[11:47] <norc> Pricey: I found the issue. It was a mess with mount points.
[11:47] <Pricey> norc: Glad to hear it.
[11:48] <norc> Pricey: A directory with contents was used as a mount point.
[11:48] <mcphail> geirha: OK, good to know. Thanks!
[11:49] <norc> /opt had some contents, so they were counted for both / and the /opt mountpoint.
then how can I login from my laptop
[11:49] <Pricey> norc: Ugh, that's always an annoying one!!
[11:49] <auronandace> game0: ssh username@ipaddress
[11:49] <game0> I'm using windows
[11:49] <game0> slabby if you can help me also
[11:49] <auronandace> game0: ah, on windows you'll need a client like putty
[11:50] <auronandace> !ssh | game0
[11:50] <slabby> I've just run the upgrade from 15.04 to 15.10 and it has crashed on installing packages. The last I have in terminal is "Processing triggers for bamfdaemon (0.5.2~bzr0+15.10.20150627.1-0ubuntu1)... Rebuilding /usr/share/applications/bamf-2.index... Error in function:". What should I do?
[11:51] <game0> ok thanks guys for the information
[11:52] <Pricey> slabby: http://askubuntu.com/questions/346678/how-do-i-resume-a-release-upgrade looks reasonable.
[11:53] <slabby> Pricey: saw that but wasn't sure it was still relevant since that was 12.10
[11:58] <colegatron> I have been using kde for long time but now I've come back to unity. I would like to know if it is possible to have 4 sticky placeholders for the windows. I'll try to explain: with unity if you drag a window to left or right side, it is automatically adjusted to left or right using half of the screen. I would like to have 4 windows instead of two
[11:59] <colegatron> I do not how that feature is named and explain it is a bit difficult (not being english my mother tonge)
[11:59] <auronandace> colegatron: not sure how to do that in unity but a tiling window manager like i3 would easily do that
[12:01] <manhaton> simple enough .. probably a very ugly hack though .. need to read more to make it clean
[12:01] <lentzi90> colegatron: try installing CompizConfig Settings Manager! I think there is a setting called "grid" there that does what you wan't.
[12:02] <colegatron> auronandace, I do not want to install extra wm or similar. Need to keep simple everything (I automate everything)
[12:02] <colegatron> lentzi90, thank you. I'm going to have a look in depth to ccsm
[12:03] <colegatron> lentzi90, it is unit tweak tool the same ccsm?
[12:03] <colegatron> lentzi90, does it is unit tweak tool the same thing than ccsm?
[12:03] <auronandace> colegatron: ccsm is for compiz as a whole, unity-tweak tool is just for unity
[12:03] <lentzi90> colegatron, no it's a different thing
[12:04] <auronandace> colegatron: bear in mind that there is the possibility to break unity functionality by altering settings in ccsm
[12:04] <colegatron> ok. tnx. maybe auronandace do the trick, I'mgoing to check
[12:05] <james> hey
[12:05] <james> silver noobs
[12:06] <colegatron> oh, yeah, unity tweak lets you do that and more... WindowManager/WindowSnapping option
[12:06] <Guest23261> noooooob
[12:07] <Guest23261> you are all silver
[12:07] <Guest23261> noooooob
[12:17] <CryptoSiD> hi guys, willy is still the last version right?
[12:17] <CryptoSiD> i mean testing version
[12:18] <DJones> CryptoSiD: willy is a full release now, testing is 16.04
[12:18] <DJones> !16.04 | CryptoSiD
[12:18] <CryptoSiD> kewl, time to update
[12:19] <slabby> Pricey: has kind of worked, getting error reports though...
[12:19] <CryptoSiD> us.archive.ubuntu.com seems to have problem (using ipv6)
[12:20] <slabby> Pricey: not really sure where to start debugging, apt-get install -f, update, upgrade, dist-upgrade, dpkg --configure -a all run without error and do nothing
[12:20] <slabby> Pricey, not sure how much of the dist-upgrade was left to do when it crashed
[12:30] <Pricey> slabby: I'd try running it again then.
[12:30] <manhaton> thanks for your help .. bbfn
[12:32] <slabby> Pricey: dist-upgrade and all the others do nothing, it seems okay so I'll just see how it goes I think
[12:39] <rafibd01717> hey
[12:39] <rafibd01717> can I update ubuntu desktop to ubuntu server?
[12:39] <rafibd01717> if I can then how?
[12:40] <rafibd01717> I am using ubuntu 14.04 LTS
[12:40] <bazhang> !lamp | rafibd01717
[12:40] <bazhang> read that rafibd01717
[12:41] <rafibd01717> but what about email server etc?
[12:42] <bazhang> did you read the link rafibd01717
[12:42] <BluesKaj> Hiyas all
[12:43] <rafibd01717> bazhang: actually I want to convert my desktop version to server version
[12:43] <rafibd01717> not for using PHP but to use it with mongodb, email server etc.
[12:44] <bazhang> rafibd01717, install lamp, boot into a no x environment then
[12:45] <rafibd01717> will these commands work? http://paste.ubuntu.com/13312540/
[12:45] <rafibd01717> bazhang:
[12:46] <bazhang> rafibd01717, how much , if any , did you read of the links I gave you
[13:09] <lostsoul> Having a problem with NetworkManager. After removing and re-installing NetworkManager, I now have an icon in the system try, but when I click on it and 'edit' both eth lines show 6 days since a connection.
[13:12] <nikolam> how do I check real CPU speed ?
[13:12] <badbodh> cat /proc/cpuinfo
[13:12] <nikolam> I have Virtualbox that is running much slowly lately/uses more CPU time
[13:13] <nikolam> badbodh, yeah, but does it gives REAL cpu speed or just reading from CPU info
[13:13] <k1l> nikolam: what do you mean by real speed? the maximum or the actual used one?
[13:13] <k1l> nikolam: please show the cpuinfo output in a pastebinj
[13:14] <nikolam> because CPUS have multiple speeds, I am thinking cpu is in some low power mode and that evertything is slower., how do I check that?
[13:14] <badbodh> gives current, max and min ghz
[13:14] <badbodh> also 'lscpu'
[13:14] <nikolam> and to see what current is
[13:14] <badbodh> ^ both work, first one gives more info
[13:16] <BluesKaj> cpufrq-utils
[13:17] <k1l> if its a new intel cpu there is intel-pstate anyway which doesnt offer the old cpufreq handling
[13:17] <someone235> What is the quickest way to install vnc server on ubuntu unity?
[13:17] <BluesKaj> cpufrequtils even
[13:18] <CryptoSiD> anyone know where i can get rtorrent / libtorrent (ppa) with ipv6 support, i tryed googling i cant find anything usefull
[13:19] <badbodh> also tlp-stat -p, too many ways to see an info. this is abominable.
[13:22] <k1l> someone235: vino is already included into unity/gnome
[13:22] <k1l> someone235: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VNC/Servers
[13:27] <Yuvraj> Hello, Guys
[13:28] <Yuvraj> I am facing x Display error while open browser with ubuntu service
[13:29] <Yuvraj> Could you guys help me?
[13:29] <nikolam> http://pastebin.com/iKzqPYSE
[13:29] <k1l> Yuvraj: what ubuntu exactly? what desktop? what browser? what error? (errormessages in pastebin)
[13:30] <nikolam> tlp-stat ?
[13:30] <someone235> k1l, after that I can connect it with vinagre?
[13:31] <someone235> k1l, by just typing the external IP address?
[13:31] <nikolam> xubuntu 14.04 lts 64bit updated, virtualbox form repos, win864bit in repos, I think it uses too much cpu time in guest to play pm3 or anything
[13:31] <nikolam> so aether slower cpu or bad guest
[13:31] <someone235> I cannot connect to vnc server with vinagre. Can someone help me?
[13:32] <ak5> anyone know of a docker image for an ubuntu mirror?
[13:34] <Yuvraj> k1l: i am using 14.04 version of ubuntu.
[13:35] <k1l> nikolam: guest additions installed?
[13:35] <nikolam> yes
[13:36] <nikolam> I would like to make sure host cpu is not in powersave cpufreq governor
[13:36] <Yuvraj> k1l: i have develop an application that work as a service in ubuntu. that application open default browser. but it's not working. I am facing X Display:0 not found error
[13:36] <nikolam> so make sure it always works fastest available
[13:36] <k1l> someone235: did you read the article? i am not familiar with vnc. but maybe you need to forward ports on the router
[13:38] <nikolam> i am thinking of sudo cpufreq-set -c 2 --min 2700Mhz
[13:39] <k1l> nikolam: its already using 2.7ghz right now in that paste
[13:39] <nikolam> or setting cpu governor to performance
[13:39] <blastermaster> hi im having a problem with my steam controller is not working with ubuntu 15.10 anyone have this problem?
[13:40] <badbodh> nikolam, install cpufrequtils, edit /etc/init.d/cpufrequtils, you'll see a section for governors. pick performance (ondemand is default)
[13:41] <mcphail> blastermaster: I have heard some versions of ubuntu/steam package don't set the udev rules for the controller so it is not recognised. Is that your problem?
[13:41] <badbodh> then you have to disable ondemand script using "sudo update-rc.d ondemand disable"
[13:41] <k1l> nikolam: cat /sys/devices/system/cpu/cpu0/cpufreq/scaling_available_governors
[13:41] <badbodh> reboot and have max frequency
[13:41] <nils17> When I try to create a new entry in the Nautilus-Actions Configuration Tool I find that the Suggested shortcut button (in the Properties tab) is disabled. Is that just me or true for everyone?
[13:42] <Yuvraj> k1l: have you any solution
[13:42] <badbodh> Yuvraj, that's not ubuntu's problem. you need better programming skills.
[13:43] <badbodh> try asking in dedicated programming channels for the language you are using
[13:43] <mcphail> blastermaster: in channel only please. Sorry - I don't have a controller to test, but that was the only consistent problem I'd heard
[13:43] <nikolam> $ cat /sys/devices/system/cpu/cpu0/cpufreq/scaling_available_governors
[13:43] <nikolam> performance powersave
[13:43] <blastermaster> oh ok
[13:43] <Yuvraj> badbodh: ok, i will Thanks.
[13:43] <blastermaster> this is the udev file
[13:43] <blastermaster> # Steam Controller device node write access, per lp:1498655
[13:43] <blastermaster> SUBSYSTEM=="usb", ATTRS{idVendor}=="28de", ATTRS{idVendor}=="1102", MODE="0666"
[13:43] <blastermaster> SUBSYSTEM=="usb", ATTRS{idVendor}=="28de", ATTRS{idVendor}=="1142", MODE="0666"
[13:43] <blastermaster> # Steam Controller udev write access, per lp:1498658
[13:43] <blastermaster> #KERNEL=="uinput", SUBSYSTEM=="misc", TAG+="uaccess"
[13:43] <k1l> Yuvraj: are you sure you call the webbrowser the right way?
[13:43] <badbodh> Yuvraj, very likely you are running your script as another user who has no access to xhost.
[13:43] <nikolam> I have set /etc/init.d/cpufrequtils for GOVERNOR="performance"
[13:44] <mcphail> blastermaster: sorry. Hope someone can help you get it working
[13:44] <cfhowlett> blastermaster, learn to paste.ubuntu.com is your friend
[13:44] <nikolam> will reboot and see
[13:44] <badbodh> nikolam, now do the ^ update-rc thingy, reboot and check.
[13:44] <Yuvraj> k1l: i am using xdg-open command
[13:44] <badbodh> unless you do that, ondemand script will keep pushing you back to 'ondemand' governor
[13:45] <Yuvraj> k1l: i mean, DISPLAY=:0 xdg-open url
[13:45] <nikolam> should I set minimum Speed? badbodh
[13:45] <badbodh> nikolam, no need. only ^ those two steps will fix it for you
[13:46] <Yuvraj> badbodh: how to use xhost. can you provide better way?
[13:46] <k1l> Yuvraj: xdg-open cna only work inside the desktop session. not from outside
[13:47] <Yuvraj> k1l: ok, then, how can open default web browser?
[13:49] <nikolam> badbodh, I only don't know about "update-rc thingy"
[13:50] <badbodh> running as service => you running it as root. root got no display access, possible crude way, do 'xhost +si:localuser:root' and use 'dbus-launch <command>'
[13:52] <badbodh> nikolam, ^ i gave you the command,scroll up
[13:53] <krcevina> Hi guys. I'm rather new in Ubuntu. Does it seems normal that right after reboot on my embedded arm board with Ubuntu, "ps auxf | grep D" gives following: http://paste.ubuntu.com/13313177/ I see this as a potential cause of low IO block performance which I'm profiling...
[13:54] <nikolam> badbodh, bah haven't seen sudo update-rc.d ondemand disable , should reboot once more
[13:55] <free_> hi?
[13:55] <badbodh> yep. that script reverts your gov back to ondemand after ~60 seconds of boot
[13:57] <free_> meiyouren?
[13:57] <cfhowlett> !cn | free_
[13:58] <tykayn-ubuntu> hey guys
[13:58] <G9803> :!
[13:58] <G9803> :middle:
[13:58] <G9803> :1
[13:58] <G9803> :!
[13:58] <G9803> !:
[13:58] <G9803> oops sorry
[13:58] <cfhowlett> G9803, stop that.
[13:58] <tykayn-ubuntu> i have blocked my port 22 on my server
[13:58] <ohmy> hello everybody
[13:58] <tykayn-ubuntu> i have no access to the machine
[13:58] <G9803> Wrong chat window
[13:58] <G9803> sorry
[13:58] <tykayn-ubuntu> any idea ?
[13:58] <free_> #NC7U-WTF
[13:58] <free_> * 无法进入 #NC7U-WTF (需要密码)。
[13:58] <cfhowlett> free_, play somewhere else
[13:58] <tykayn-ubuntu> oh, i have ftp access
[13:59] <ohmy> i'm looking for a small C/C++ library that can help me to extract video and audio from mpeg st, any idea please ? (feel free to redirect me please if you think i can get help somewhere else)
[14:00] <nikolam> This computer is new and also does not want to do shutdown
[14:01] <badbodh> ohmy, vlc can record your stream. haven;t used it though.
[14:01] <nikolam> and displays quadziliton ubuntu errors on startup
[14:01] <nikolam> because it could not shutdown, e.g. was holding cpu frozen on shutdown
[14:01] <ohmy> badbodh: vlc, gstreamer ffmpeg are beasts
[14:02] <nikolam> computer is at the customer's office and I am sick of it
[14:03] <nikolam> ok now it is saying performance and that one is ruled out at least, thanks badbodh
[14:04] <badbodh> nikolam, run 'dmesg' in terminal. plenty of tools in linux to troubleshoot and fix yourself. with your 'friend' google of course.
[14:04] <jcamilo> hi, can someone help me?
[14:04] <asdsdasda> maybe
[14:04] <asdsdasda> what do you need help with
[14:05] <cfhowlett> !ask | jcamilo,
[14:05] <asdsdasda> !patience
[14:05] <jcamilo> ok, I can access my ubuntu server with ssh, but I cant connect to the internet
[14:06] <asdsdasda> is it local ?
[14:06] <jcamilo> yeah
[14:06] <tykayn-ubuntu> anyone could help me with SSH ?
[14:06] <asdsdasda> hmm odd. did you check the router?
[14:06] <asdsdasda> maybe its blocked for outgoing connections for some reason
[14:07] <jcamilo> it was working yesterday, I was using it for apache and dev websites
[14:07] <Eduard_Munteanu> tykayn-ubuntu, ask a specific question
[14:07] <asdsdasda> very strange
[14:07] <jcamilo> i think this happened after I created my 2 website
[14:08] <asdsdasda> ohhhh yea then i cant help you, you would need somebody a bit more invested in apache for that i think.
[14:08] <tykayn-ubuntu> k, so played with iptables on my remote server. and now, when i want to connect back to it i have this error: port 22: Connection refused
[14:08] <jcamilo> i also install ufw for testing , but I didn't enabled it so I dont think thats the problem
[14:08] <asdsdasda> maybe apache stole the ports?
[14:08] <cfhowlett> jcamilo, verify that ufw is not running
[14:08] <jcamilo> where can I check the ports
[14:08] <jcamilo> ?
[14:08] <jcamilo> its not, I unistalled it
[14:09] <tykayn-ubuntu> apache generally uses port 80, or 8080
[14:09] <asdsdasda> use netstat
[14:09] <asdsdasda> netstat -ntlp | grep LISTEN
[14:09] <asdsdasda> maybe that will work
[14:09] <asdsdasda> i found this page http://askubuntu.com/questions/75852/how-do-i-see-which-ports-are-open
[14:09] <asdsdasda> it could be interesting for you.
[14:09] <jcamilo> what if I stop apache and try internet
[14:10] <asdsdasda> yeah you could try that. then we will see if its apache causing the problem
[14:10] <jcamilo> nop still nothing
[14:10] <asdsdasda> hmm
[14:10] <asdsdasda> and you've tried rebooting ?
[14:10] <EriC^^> can you ping 8.8.8.8?
[14:10] <jcamilo> yes
[14:10] <jcamilo> I've tried rebooting
[14:10] <asdsdasda> try erics advice
[14:11] <jcamilo> yes I can ping
[14:11] <EriC^^> then it's a dns problem
[14:11] <asdsdasda> thats good then you have internet, thats googles dns
[14:11] <asdsdasda> yea
[14:11] <jcamilo> I cant ping www.google.pt
[14:11] <jcamilo> "Unkown Host"
[14:12] <EriC^^> jcamilo: have you set up the dns server for your internet connection?
[14:12] <jcamilo> not even local computers
[14:12] <jcamilo> I dont think so
[14:12] <jcamilo> but it was working before....
[14:12] <jcamilo> how can I know if the dns server is ok?
[14:13] <overseer> speed up brain jar production
[14:13] <overseer> foresaken almost time
[14:13] <asdsdasda> what the hell is brain jar productions???
[14:13] <cfhowlett> overseer, wrong channel
[14:13] <overseer> the red dragon is expanding its compilation
[14:14] <asdsdasda> hahahahahha what the hell is he on about
[14:14] <overseer> no I left forrsaken here
[14:14] <cfhowlett> overseer, crack makes you stupid. put down the pipe
[14:15] <g105b> Where is the correct modern place to put scripts so they execute on boot? I am used to putting links to scripts inside /etc/init.d is this still correct?
[14:15] <k1l> g105b: since 15.04 ubuntu uses systemd
[14:15] <jcamilo> is it ok that resolv.conf only has 2 comment lines??
[14:16] <asdsdasda> can somebody pm me, i want to see what happens
[14:16] <asdsdasda> did somebody pm me because i just got a nullpointer exception HAHA
[14:16] <k1l> g105b: so something similiar to this: https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Systemd_FAQ#How_can_I_make_a_script_start_during_the_boot_process.3F should work
[14:16] <EriC^^> jcamilo: does it not have nameserver 127.0.0.1 ?
[14:16] <samdjo> asdsdasda, I did
[14:17] <jcamilo> nop
[14:17] <EriC^^> jcamilo: add that line
[14:17] <jcamilo> it says if you edit the file by hand changes will not be overwritten
[14:18] <pukapy> hi guys.. i have a problem.. i just install java oracle 8 and minecraft cuz my little brother want to play but when i start minecraft it doesnt start.. it pop-up the windows and that's it
[14:19] <EriC^^> jcamilo: ok, i guess you need to edit another file, maybe /etc/network/interfaces , i dunno much about this subject
[14:19] <g105b> k1l: thank you :)
[14:20] <davidsha> Hey, I was just wondering would this be considered a legitimate bug: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/pciutils/+bug/1516095
[14:21] <pukapy> anyone know what can i do?
[14:27] <orf_> Hey guys, installing the skype package has this issue: http://askubuntu.com/questions/695423/i-cant-see-any-text-on-skype-after-update-to-ubuntu-15-10
[14:27] <orf_> anyone here have any input as to what could cause that? i'm on a 4k screen which might cause issues
[14:31] <tykayn-ubuntu> pukapy: you should try calling minecrat in a console, so you see the output logs
[14:34] <shalgham> I just found 'disable/enable switable graphics' in efi settings! by disabling switchable option, does it mean NVIDIA is off?
[14:35] <tykayn-ubuntu> dunno
[14:37] <asdasddsasd> can i pm somebody just to see if it works ?
[14:38] <geirha> asdasddsasd: you can pm the bot, e.g. /msg ubottu !help
[14:38] <asdasddsasd> Thanks man! Will do
[14:39] <jack-zhang> Hello everyone, my ubuntu 14.04 can get right IPv6 address (beginning with 2403), but I can not ping6 any IPv6 address including my default gateways (has two beginning with fe80). The most weird part is that the same computer, the same net, my Windows 7 works well. Some suggestions?
[14:39] <asdasddsasd> It works lovley. Can i get the bot to pm me somehow?
[14:39] <asdasddsasd> I want to see how the client handles incoming pms
[14:40] <jack-zhang> asdasddsasd, talk to me?
[14:40] <somsip> !test > asdasddsasd
[14:41] <asdasddsasd> Thanks ubottu it worked really good, and thanks for recommending #test!
[14:41] <asdasddsasd> One very strange thing that happened tho is that i cant see jack-zhangs message here. It only shows up as raw irc.
[14:42] <asdasddsasd> Very interesting, i will have to research this. Brb
[14:42] <Pumpkin-_> jack-zhang: when you say "can't ping", what exactly do you get ?. A series of ping timeouts or an error about unknown host ?.
[14:42] <asdasddsasd> Okay thanks somsip!
[14:45] <eduard_> hallo
[14:45] <jack-zhang> Pumpkin-_, I get nothing no error no timeout just wait. when I use control+C to exit it shows all packets lost!!
[14:47] <asdasdasdsad> !test > asdasdasdsad
[14:47] <overseer> hashsashuddar
[14:47] <overseer> icy
[14:48] <asdasdasdsad> overseer what are you
[14:48] <asdasdasdsad> and how can i become affiliated
[14:48] <overseer> be baptised
[14:48] <_cipher> guys is there any website for shell scripting
[14:48] <_cipher> you would suggest
[14:49] <overseer> hashsashuddar
[14:49] <overseer> full immersion
[14:49] <asdasdasdsad> what is hashsashuddar, sounds like that dude from dune. whatshisname
[14:49] <_cipher> how many of you are online ?
[14:50] <somsip> !ot | asdasdasdsad overseer
[14:50] <davidsha> Hey, I was just wondering would this be considered a legitimate bug: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/pciutils/+bug/1516095
[14:50] <somsip> !bash | _cipher
[14:55] <overseer> how many lambs shall posess eternal life
[14:55] <overseer> only one
[15:09] <adasdasd> !help
[15:09] <pbx> often when there's an update to the 'wine-staging' package the auto-updater gets confused, and i get a "do not enter" icon on the updates status bar menu. is this just a flaky package or is there something else i can do to appease the system?
[15:09] <ChunkzZ> how can I remove everything in ubuntu but keep the video drivers and audio drivers? apart from 1 by 1?
[15:10] <ChunkzZ> I've been removing with -* and it removes everything related to it but isn't there an easier way?
[15:10] <pbx> ChunkzZ, what do you mean by "remove everythin in ubuntu"? it's an operating system.
[15:10] <guest> I doubt you mean *everything* ChunkzZ
[15:10] <somsip> ChunkzZ: install with the minimal ISO and build up
[15:10] <ChunkzZ> like the DE, I mean. but keep the video and audio drivers.
[15:11] <ChunkzZ> somsip: what? there's a minmal iso? where?
[15:11] <guest> Definitely then start from minimal, and install packages one by one
[15:11] <somsip> !mini | ChunkzZ
[15:11] <guest> it really is minimal though. I hope you know what you're doing
[15:11] <ChunkzZ> yeah, thanks. never knew it existed!
[15:11] <guest> you're going to be dumped at: user@ubuntu $
[15:11] <guest> will you know where to go from there?
[15:12] <ChunkzZ> should do yes, or might use a DE and just remove it. I'll see, I got a few spare days to figure it out. my laptop ain't here, yet.
[15:12] <ChunkzZ> I got ubuntu running on my odroid though, i3 and everything all configured. I moved over from arch.
[15:12] <guest> If you want to install from the minimal iso, it might be a good idea to familiarise yourself with the packages that ubuntu-desktop provides
[15:13] <guest> ChunkzZ: http://packages.ubuntu.com/wily/ubuntu-desktop
[15:13] <ChunkzZ> guest: yeah I'll have a read, thanks. and thanks.
[15:13] <guest> ChunkzZ: You can cherry-pick individual packages to install from that dependecy list
[15:13] <ChunkzZ> thanks guest!
[15:22] <TheEagerPadawan> anyone here that has exp with rdesktop
[15:29] <jasio> siema
[15:29] <jasio> haloalo
[15:30] <jasio> spoko
[15:30] <hyp0tez> hmm
[15:33] <asdasdsaddas> spoko nega?
[15:35] <davidsha> Hey, could someone take a look at this and see if it's worth looking into: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/pciutils/+bug/1516095
[15:36] <OneM_Industries> I need help resizing a LVM partition.
[15:37] <OneM_Industries> How would I shrink one by about...1Gb?
[15:37] <Clockwerk> hello everyone, i need help, someone cracked my website, want to be sure that they didn't have acess to vds. How can i check logs in ubuntu who tried to access?
[15:38] <pbx> Clockwerk, what are vds? and before sleuthing have you changed your login passwords first?
[15:38] <pbx> Clockwerk, also, details on "cracked my website" would help
[15:38] <Clockwerk> not adv. Here is website
[15:38] <Clockwerk> https://mumblebit.com/ below is link
[15:38] <mekhami> hi folks. i'm trying to change my DNS settings on 15.04. I changed /etc/resolvconf/resolv.conf.d/base and added my nameserver in there. restarted network-manager, but the nameserver wasn't added to /etc/resolv.conf
[15:38] <Clockwerk> near found the bug?
[15:39] <Clockwerk> i checked var/log/auth.log and saw that 2 days someone was trying to access web
[15:39] <Clockwerk> ssh and ftp
[15:41] <pbx> Clockwerk, attempted logins happen all the time. i'm still not clear on what "cracked" means
[15:41] <Clockwerk> Open https://mumblebit.com/
[15:42] <Clockwerk> check http://prntscr.com/93srz5
[15:42] <Clockwerk> IFOUNDONE link
[15:42] <Clockwerk> it leads to some hacker website
[15:43] <krcevina> Is it normal that on Ubuntu reboot, a couple of processes are, right from the beginning, in uninterruptible sleep state (D state)?
[15:43] <aarobc> Is there a way to make it so if a drive doesn't exist but has an entry in fstab that it won't completely break booting?
[15:43] <pbx> ah, i see, thanks Clockwerk. you just needed to use more words :)
[15:44] <Clockwerk> So i checked website with virustotal didn't find any backdoor
[15:44] <Clockwerk> i'm afraid that they have access to server
[15:44] <pbx> Clockwerk, you should change login passwords, for one thing
[15:45] <Clockwerk> already
[15:46] <sruli> i am trying to install from a usb onto a partiton (win on other part) i get an error on boot "there are filesys specific -o flags" "cannot mount dev/loop1 on /cow" what does this mean? how to i sort it?
[15:49] <davidsha> sruli: it sounds like the file system you used to write onto the usb is different from the file system you are trying to write it to.
[15:50] <sruli> davidsha: i created the usb with ubuntu creator ,
[15:52] <davidsha1> sruli: was it written from a wondows system?
[15:53] <sruli> davidsha: no, from ubuntu
[15:53] <davidsha1> sruli: Ok, did they both use the same file system type?
[15:54] <sruli> davidsha: who is both, i dont understand, i made a boot usb to install ubuntu on a dualboot
[15:55] <howudodat> quick question on forcing nvidia version. I want to use 346, but it keeps installing 352 (352 has bugs with displayport). However I cant select 346 in additional drivers. and when I uninstall 352 it uninstalls 346, likewise install of 346 brings in 352. I am running ubuntu 15.10 with gnome-shell
[15:56] <davidsha1> sruli: Oh, why are you mounting it then? you should be able to boot from the USB by restarting the machine and set up a dual boot from there.
[15:57] <sruli> avidsha1: thats what i am doing, i didnt mount it, i get that error at boot
[15:59] <davidsha1> sruli: the image a .cow file?
[15:59] <lostsoul> Networking on ubuntu 14.04, NetworkManager appears to not running, yet I an connected and using eth0. Anyone know what to check for?
[16:00] <howudodat> sruli: davidsha1: I have seen this error when my persistence file was corrupted
[16:01] <davidsha1> sruli: did you try this: http://askubuntu.com/questions/215589/cannot-mount-dev-loop1-on-cow ?
[16:01] <howudodat> sruli: you might just try to recreate the usb and dont create the persistence file...discard changes after shutdown or similar. you might also try using a different usb creator. I have found the startup disk creator to be very unreliable
[16:02] <sruli> i am making it again this time without persistance, should i use gpt or msdos for the table?
[16:04] <sruli> howudodat: gpt or msdos for table?
[16:06] <howudodat> sruli: I am not 100% sure. I would try gpt and if that fails, try it again with msdos
[16:07] <thaddee> Hi guys, I'm having trouble with my display server (I think that
[16:07] <sruli> tnx
[16:07] <thaddee> 's what it's called)
[16:07] <hubbunny> hey guys, I'm currently runnning Win7 but looking to dual boot with Ubuntu. Just looking for some advice, From my current setup how do I go about having a dual boot with minimum hdd space for each OS and having the rest of the HDD space available to both?
[16:07] <thaddee> and I read that downgrading to an older kernel is the solution
[16:08] <thaddee> never done this before
[16:08] <thaddee> how do I know which kernel to downgrade to?
[16:08] <thaddee> hubbunny: what I always do is shrink down the windows partition and then adding a shared partition for both OSs
[16:09] <thaddee> the shared partition is an NTFS partition
[16:09] <thaddee> ubuntu usually comes with gparted
[16:09] <thaddee> that's a good tool for partitioning
[16:09] <hubbunny> thaddee thanks that sounds good.
[16:10] <thaddee> after that you format the rest of the partition to ext4
[16:10] <howudodat> hubbunny: you might also take a look at the officiall documentation before starting...here is a link to it: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WindowsDualBoot
[16:10] <hubbunny> Thanks howudodat.
[16:28] <krcevina> Am I visible? I asked two questions today, but nothing. I will look for more dedicated channels. I just want to see if I'm visible :)
[16:29] <minimec> krcevina: pong...
[16:29] <krcevina> minimec: thanks
[16:32] <davidmichaelkarr> part of my 14.04 update dbs appear to be corrupted somehow. I'm using the gui "software updater", and I've tried a few times to install updates to "Ubuntu base", but I get a dialog saying that this requires untrusted sources, and that appears to complete the process. When I restart it, it brings up the same info about updates to "Ubuntu base". I then
[16:32] <davidmichaelkarr> tried "apt-get update" from a shell, and I'm getting lots of errors apparently about "failing to resolve".
[16:34] <howudodat> davidmichaelkarr: you have repos without signed certs. you can do apt-get upgrade and it will prompt if you want to trust the updates, review them and decide yes or no.
i see Kworker .. do you really run kubuntu on an ARM device?
[16:36] <BottomNotch> can anyone here help me with my old serial touchscreen?
[16:37] <krcevina> OerHeks: No, I run Ubuntu utopic
[16:39] <lentzi90> Is there some simple way of getting the IP addres of a beaglebone running snappy ubuntu? I can't find my micro HDMI adapter... and I can't access the router to check it that way.
[16:41] <OerHeks> krcevina, kworker is part of Kubuntu. so you installed an other dekstop on top of it, anyway, Utopic is EOL, dead, upgrade to a supported version please
[16:41] <OerHeks> !utopic
[16:42] <OerHeks> and arm, what do you expect of it, it is not a racemonster for a heavy desktop
[16:45] <BottomNotch> I have a Lenovo Thinkpad X61 Tablet with trusty and my touchscreen is not working
[16:46] <BottomNotch> I know that it's a serial touchscreen, I know the serial port is dev/ttyS4 but beyond that I have no idea what to do
[16:46] <krcevina> okay, it's not up to me to decide which one to use, I have stuck with this one, so I'm just interested in "is it normal to have processes in D state right from the beginning"
[16:48] <BottomNotch> can anyone help me?
[16:49] <r_rios> BottomNotch: Just ask your question
[16:49] <BottomNotch> have a Lenovo Thinkpad X61 Tablet with trusty and my touchscreen is not working
[16:49] <BottomNotch> I know that it's a serial touchscreen, I know the serial port is dev/ttyS4 but beyond that I have no idea what to do
[16:51] <BottomNotch> I've tried the instructions found here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touchscreen
[16:51] <BottomNotch> none if the drivers work correctly even with callibration.
[16:54] <davidmichaelkarr> howudodat: Hmm, I never got a prompt to accept certs, but doing upgrade appears to have succeeded.
[16:55] <davidmichaelkarr> howudodat: However, I'm seeing a bad symptom afterwards, and I don't know if it was due to the upgrade. I had configured this VM so that I could connect to it from the host, but now the connection (and ping) fails with "no route to host" or "destination host unreachable".
[16:56] <davidmichaelkarr> Oh, never mind. my guest IP has changed, by one digit.
[16:57] <BottomNotch> did someone answer my question while I was breifly dissconected?
[16:58] <hkm> hello
[16:58] <jab> hello
[16:59] <BottomNotch> guess not, anyone know somewhere where I might get help with my touchscreen?
[16:59] <BottomNotch> no one here seems to be able to help
[17:02] <deshymers> is there a way via cli to view what services/applications are owned by a certain user, these may not be running
[17:02] <deshymers> or else I would just use the ps cmd
[17:04] <BottomNotch> so no help here, don't know where else to go, guess I don't get a touchscreen on ubuntu
[17:07] <OerHeks> BottomNotch, i have been reading about that machine, 61T https://help.ubuntu.com/community/X61T
[17:08] <OerHeks> out of date wiki, but that intel GMA 3100 is quite old, but it should work ootb
[17:10] <Knight80> Hello everyone
[17:10] <msl_beat> hello
[17:10] <Knight80> I've got a problem here, I can't hear sound on games
[17:11] <Knight80> I'm on Ubuntu GNOME 15.10 but I installed xfce4
[17:11] <Knight80> Since then, I can't hear sound on games
[17:12] <gremlyn> having a weird wifi-ui issue, where if i try to select anything that is not one of two wifi networks, the entire wifi UI stops responding and I have to reboot in order to get wifi functionality back
[17:13] <gremlyn> I have a 5GHz and 2.4GHz wifi network, and my phone tether. I can't switch to the 2.4GHz without it locking up the ui
[17:13] <wizzkidd> w1zzk1dd
[17:13] <wizzkidd> w1zzk1dd90210aaa
[17:16] <wizzkidd> can anyone here help me with bonding 2 NIC's... I previously had this done okay before I reinstalled Ubuntu and had to reconfigure my network interfaces. Somehow my last install referred to my dual NIC as p1p1 and p1p2, but his time its enp2s0f0 and enp2s0f1 ... do the ifaces have a new name introduced in an update?
[17:17] <TJ-> gremlyn: Network Manager does some verbose logging to /var/log/syslog; there might be a clue there
[17:17] <gremlyn> thanks TJ- I'll looks
[17:17] <TJ-> wizzkidd: sounds like the original naming used biosdevnames, but how you have systemd persistent naming
[17:18] <TJ-> wizzkidd: "EtherNet Port 2 Slot 0 Function 0,1
[17:19] <wizzkidd> TJ-: ok, the naming convention makes sense. Do you know why these have changed now that I have rebuilt my ubuntu server?
[17:20] <bagolytoll> Hi all! Can somebody help? If one drive dies in a RAID 1. Do I have to format the new drive?
[17:20] <bagolytoll> software raid
[17:20] <TJ-> wizzkidd: which Ubuntu release is it? when you say 'rebuilt', does that mean reinstalled the *same* Ubuntu release? Did the original Ubuntu installation previously get release-upgraded before it was rebuilt?
[17:20] <Jakey3> is there a way to stop chromium logging history
[17:20] <Jakey3> ?
[17:21] <gremlyn> any reason my syslog would have a bunch of "smtp: Failed: Connect failed" entries? says there are 37k+ messages, but from what?
[17:21] <TJ-> bagolytoll: No, you mark the failed drive as failed, remove it from the array, add the replacement drive as a spare to the arrray and then make it active. The data will then be synced to it.
[17:22] <TJ-> gremlyn: any process ID number next to those messages you can correlate to the originating process?
[17:22] <manager> hola
[17:22] <bagolytoll> hm thx
[17:22] <gremlyn> TJ-, nullmailer[4064] ?
[17:22] <wizzkidd> TJ-: I previously had 15.04 ... I formatted the drive and started fresh with 15.04 again followed by an update / upgrade / dist-upgrade
[17:22] <TJ-> gremlyn: OK, so whatever nullmailer is cannot connect :)
[17:23] <TJ-> wizzkidd: so the system has always been 15.04?
[17:23] <wizzkidd> TJ-: yes
[17:23] <gremlyn> TJ-, hah but why nothing should be sending mail from this computer :P
[17:24] <TJ-> wizzkidd: OK, 15.04 is a weird transistional hybrid of Upstart and Systemd init systems. I can only think that the original install was using Upstart and biosdevnames (or statically assigned names via udevd) and this latest doesn't have those, so Systemd is using its persistent interface naming scheme now
[17:25] <TJ-> !info nullmailer | gremlyn
[17:26] <wizzkidd> TJ-: ok, that sounds feasible. I seem to have the bonding working now, I just had to use the alternative interface names. I dont even have eth0 or em0 now
[17:26] <gremlyn> hah apparently my minecraft server tries to send an email every time it saves the world
[17:26] <TJ-> gremlyn: the only package that depends on nullmailer is exim4-config
[17:27] <TJ-> gremlyn: ahhh, good, you found that without too much trouble :)
[17:27] <gremlyn> TJ-, just had to read one of the emails once I found them
[17:27] <gremlyn> heh :)
[17:28] <game0> guys, sudo apt-get isn't working with me
[17:28] <OerHeks> wizzkidd, "predictable network interfaces names default on" can be turned off, in 15.04, http://askubuntu.com/a/628492
[17:28] <TJ-> wizzkidd: right, Systemd has introduced these persistent interface names to try to avoid race condition naming errors that were becoming more frequent wth hotplug/discovery race conditions. Previously eth* naming was on a first-discovery, first-allocated basis and that could change on a per-boot basis
[17:28] <game0> I recived this problem when I've done apt-get upgrade
[17:29] <game0> E: Unable to fetch some archives, maybe run apt-get update or try with --fix-missing?
[17:29] <game0> what should I do?
[17:29] <Pici> game0: What release of Ubuntu are you running?
[17:29] <game0> I'm using ubuntu server 14.04
[17:29] <game0> pici
[17:30] <Pici> game0: Have you tried to run apt-get update recently?
[17:30] <game0> yes, it's showing ign messages
[17:30] <game0> to all
[17:30] <game0> pici
[17:30] <Pici> game0: /ll pastebinit 5
[17:30] <Pici> er
[17:30] <Pici> ignore that
[17:31] <wizzkidd> TJ-: ah i see, great, thanks for the explanation. I may just leave it as it is for now, if it causes complications with anything in the future (such a poor script *assuming* my interface name) then I may disable the "predictable network interface names" as OerHeks suggested
[17:32] <game0> pici
[17:32] <game0> E: Some index files failed to download. They have been ignored, or old ones used instead.
[17:33] <Pici> game0: Can you please pastebin the contents of /etc/apt/sources.list ?
[17:34] <game0> #
[17:34] <game0> # deb cdrom:[Ubuntu-Server 14.10 _Utopic Unicorn_ - Release amd64 (20141022.2)]$
[17:34] <game0> # deb cdrom:[Ubuntu-Server 14.10 _Utopic Unicorn_ - Release amd64 (20141022.2)]$
[17:34] <game0> # deb cdrom:[Ubuntu-Server 14.10 _Utopic Unicorn_ - Release amd64 (20141022.2)]$
[17:34] <game0> #deb cdrom:[Ubuntu-Server 14.10 _Utopic Unicorn_ - Release amd64 (20141022.2)]/$
[17:34] <game0> #deb cdrom:[Ubuntu-Server 14.10 _Utopic Unicorn_ - Release amd64 (20141022.2)]/$
[17:34] <OerHeks> cat /etc/apt/sources.list | nc termbin.com 9999
[17:34] <TJ-> Errr, 14.10 ?
[17:35] <TJ-> !eol | game0
[17:35] <OerHeks> that is just the cdrom
[17:35] <TJ-> right, but that is *not* 14.04
[17:35] <OerHeks> that persists during upgrading to 15.04 . ... oh no, indeed
[17:35] <chindy> apt-get tells me that there are 0 upgraded and 0 installed and 0 not upgraded
[17:35] <MonkeyDust> game0 next time, use a pastebin for multiple lines
[17:35] <chindy> isnt it supposed to be at least 1 not upgraded?
[17:36] <OerHeks> chindy, why should that be? did you try dist-upgrade ?? ( it will not upgrade to the next ubuntu)
[17:37] <chindy> i am trying to install numpy and it does not work
[17:37] <game0> ubottu can you help me?
[17:38] <Guest58339> help please, auto updated xubuntu today now x will not start: hangs black screen
[17:38] <zyzzy> grub black screen ?
[17:39] <OerHeks> game0, if you are on 14.10, you cannot install anything as it is EOL, dead, upgrade please
[17:39] <TJ-> !eolupgrade | game0
[17:39] <game0> my problem is how to upgrade
[17:39] <TJ-> game0: read the links ^^^^^
[17:39] <OerHeks> usethe EOLupgrade trick in the last url
[17:39] <houcheng> DerHeks, can not install ? i thought can not upgrade only.
[17:40] <Pici> chindy: doesn't work how? how are you trying to install numpy?
[17:40] <OerHeks> houcheng, no, the servers are offline, there is 1 old-versions server, to upgrade or do some research
[17:41] <chindy> Pici, sudo pip install numpy or apt-get install python-numpy
[17:41] <houcheng> oh, got it.
[17:41] <wizzkidd> TJ-: is there a way to find out what is the latest supported kernel for Ubuntu 15.04 ?
[17:42] <Pici> chindy: never ever use sudo pip. The latter should work though.
[17:42] <chindy> Pici, it does not tough
[17:42] <Pici> chindy: If you're getting the message that you pasted above, then it is already installed.
[17:43] <wizzkidd> TJ-: actually, ignore that, I just realised that I already have the latest supported kernel installed since my new reinstallation
[17:43] <OerHeks> wizzkidd, http://kernel.ubuntu.com/~kernel-ppa/mainline/ v3.15-rc1-trusty/ 09-Jun-2015 11:12
[17:43] <TJ-> wizzkidd: "apt-cache policy linux-image-generic"
[17:44] <wizzkidd> TJ-: it appears im sitting on 4.2.0-18-generic
[17:44] <TJ-> wizzkidd: so that's 15.10, not 15.04 ?
[17:44] <wizzkidd> ohhhh?
[17:44] <Guest58339> zyzzy: no it loads quickly past the ubuntu graphical screen then as x should be starting, screen goes black with flashing _ at top left of screen. small occasional hard disk light, wifi light flashing
[17:44] <TJ-> wizzkidd: "lsb_release -a"
[17:45] <chindy> Pici, if i import numpy as np i get no module named numpy
[17:45] <wizzkidd> TJ-: you are correct, I am infact on 15.10 - im not sure how i made that silly mistake
[17:45] <Pici> chindy: Which version of python?
[17:46] <chindy> in both python2.7 and python3.4
[17:46] <wizzkidd> TJ-: ahh i see, my bad, i saw 14.04 and mixed that with 15.04 ... my bad!
[17:46] <wizzkidd> TJ-: so with that said I am on 15.10 ... lol
[17:47] <TJ-> wizzkidd: that better explains the device naming, too
[17:48] <wizzkidd> TJ-: :) gotcha
[17:48] <zyzzy> Guest58339 reinstall xfce stuffs ?
[17:48] <Pici> chindy: Are you in a virtualenv?
[17:48] <chindy> no
[17:48] <chindy> Pici, no
[17:48] <xMopxShell> how can I strace a kernel thread?
[17:48] <emitattuo> I can't seem to find the hal package for flash on 15.10.
[17:49] <Guest58339> zyzzy: im not sure how to do that. im now running live usb to get online. i thought there would be a way to fix the hard disk install using this live version
[17:50] <Pici> chindy: hm. Are you running this within an interactive python session?
[17:50] <Guest58339> zyzzy:or shall i try reboot into hard disk safe mode
[17:51] <OerHeks> emitattuo, HAL is long gone, if you want flash/shockwave/moonlight you want chrome browser, for DRM content.
[17:51] <chindy> Pici, how can i make sure that i am running this within an interactive python session
[17:51] <chindy> ?
[17:52] <zyzzy> safe mode is usually worth a look just to learn things
[17:52] <Pici> chindy: Well, what exactly are you trying to run?
[17:53] <chindy> Pici, by now? this line import numpy as np
[17:53] <dragos> hi
[17:53] <dragos> ikonia: hi
[17:53] <Guest58339> zyzzy: i did the usual safe mode fsck and reinstall broken packages etc
[17:53] <Pici> chindy: yes, but where are you typing that?
[17:53] <pingslas> test
[17:53] <Pici> pingslas: please don't hilight people for no reason.
[17:53] <emitattuo> OerHeks, oh, thanks. It was working in arch. Why was it dumped?
[17:54] <pingslas> okey
[17:54] <zyzzy> Guest58339 dang and your desktop package still isn't booting
[17:54] <chindy> Pici, in a test.py file aswell as in the console interpreter
[17:55] <Pici> chindy: what does which python say?
[17:55] <zyzzy> Guest58339 feasible solution? use live cd to backup data, nuke & pave
[17:56] <OerHeks> emitattuo, https://wiki.debian.org/HALRemoval 2011/12 ,, "it was working in Arch" but does it work today in Arch ? i don't want to know actually :-)
[17:56] <zyzzy> guest58339 i did that many times with xubuntu why not
[17:57] <Guest58339> zyzzy: worse its my girlfriends computer. i have 24 hours. it took months to get the 3g card set up correctly and all the right modules and firmware. should have backed up i know. can i at least get a listing of all the packages/fw/mods etc to help reinstall if really needed?
[17:57] <emitattuo> OerHeks, thanks again. (it did last week :-)
[17:58] <TJ-> Guest58339: use the logs, Luke! /var/log/* on the installed root file-system; check /var/log/X0rg.0.log, syslog, kern.log for clues.
[17:58] <TJ-> Guest58339: you'll need to mount that root file-system from the Live env first, then you can inspect those logs
[17:58] <emitattuo> Guest58339, can't you chroot into it?
[17:58] <Guest58339> TJ-: thanks. hope i understand them
[17:59] <TJ-> Guest58339: once you have access you can pastebin them to get help. It sounds like a relatively simple GPU driver issue
[17:59] <Guest58339> hey guys you are going to fast for me! how to chroot from this live usb
[17:59] <Guest58339> i really want to avoid clean install
[18:00] <game0> guys, I solved the old date problem by this
[18:00] <dcz> hello guys, i use ubuntu mate 15.10 and when i open caja , after 1 min later it freezes and i have to force quit it ? whats the problem here ?
[18:00] <Guest58339> TJ-: i googled that before, a few people having that mproblem
[18:01] <game0> http://askubuntu.com/questions/91815/how-to-install-software-or-upgrade-from-an-old-unsupported-release
[18:01] <OerHeks> game0, good, same way as the url from ubottu
[18:01] <emitattuo> TJ-, if it is a graphics issue, could Guest58339 tell GRUB to nomodeset?
[18:01] <game0> no, it's more simple steps
[18:02] <game0> the url the commands was not working
[18:02] <game0> there's differences OerHeks
[18:02] <OerHeks> game0, no there is not, but have fun upgrading.
[18:03] <TJ-> Guest58339: something like "sudo mkdir /target; sudo mount /dev/sdXY /target" - where /dev/sdXY is the root file-system of the hard-disk installation. Use "lsblk" to discover what device that is
[18:03] <arunangshu> on installing vlc player i am getting this error" http://pastebin.com/RZsgNXe2 "
[18:03] <game0> thanks OerHeks
[18:03] <arunangshu> please help
[18:03] <Guest58339> emitattuo: i write that down for a try. need to gather much info while on live x
[18:04] <bagolytoll> Hi all! I need help. I installed quota. I set for one user quota check and set 1024 for hard. 1MB? It doesnt work. I could copy 100MB
[18:04] <MonkeyDust> arunangshu how are you installing vlc?
[18:05] <arunangshu> through software centre
[18:05] <dcz> hello guys, i use ubuntu mate 15.10 and when i open caja , after 1 min later it freezes and i have to force quit it ? whats the problem here ?
[18:05] <MonkeyDust> arunangshu what's the output of cat /etc/issue
[18:06] <arunangshu> its elementary OS Freya \n \l
[18:06] <Knight80> Hello everyone
[18:06] <OerHeks> arunangshu, LANGUAGE = (unset), LC_ALL = (unset), install/upgrade your locale and language is your issue
[18:06] <OerHeks> oh elementary .. is not ubuntu
[18:06] <MonkeyDust> arunangshu elementary is not supported here, you're in the wrong channel
[18:07] <Knight80> I need some help here, I've got no sound on some games
[18:07] <OerHeks> arunangshu, they have their own issues, but basicly setup your locale
[18:07] <arunangshu> how to setup lacale i am new here
[18:08] <OerHeks> !elementary | arunangshu you should ask here
[18:08] <MonkeyDust> arunangshu ask in the elementary channel, not here
[18:08] <k1l> arunangshu: the non-ubuntu versions do have issues with the repos because they change stuff. like the naming of the OS which is sometimes needed. so better ask them for support
[18:10] <Knight80> Do you have any ideas about this issue?
[18:10] <k1l> Knight80: are that old games and they dont work with pulesaudio or alsa?
[18:11] <Knight80> k1l They're quite old, yes
[18:11] <Knight80> k1l And they don't work with pulseaudio nor alsa
[18:11] <dcz> what a community, elementary is not ubuntu , so go fuck yourself, very nice, ubuntu is linux , elementary is linux , so help everybody , need that. congrats guys, you are awesome. i hope, one day you guys stuck somewhere and cry like a baby
[18:11] <Jakey3> is there a way to stop chromium logging history in ubuntu 14.04?
[18:11] <Knight80> k1l I tried uninstalling pulseaudio, without success...
[18:12] <k1l> Knight80: there you go. that can be very difficult to get them running in a way we have good audio support today.
[18:12] <k1l> dcz: then there is still ##linux
[18:12] <OerHeks> ... dcz, we appreciate your input ... not
[18:13] <chindy> Pici, so you cant think of a solution either?
[18:13] <daftykins> dcz: you're welcome to install a distro that actually has a community...
[18:13] <daftykins> there are 0 benefits to running elementary
[18:13] <requiest> hi all
[18:13] <Knight80> k1l Both games used to work properly, but I guess I changed something and now they don't
[18:13] <dcz> fucking douches, you still think giving anwer to me :D haha very nice
[18:13] <vacho> hello guys, I got an email from linode saying my server is sending spam... how do I disable all outbound emails?
[18:14] <r00ter> hi
[18:14] <Pici> chindy: I had asked you what the result of which python was, but didn't see a reply. Now I'm sort of busy with other things. You might be able to get an answer in #python though, they're usually pretty good with these things.
[18:15] <OerHeks> vacho, pull the ethernet cable, and fix it.
[18:15] <vacho> I want to disable it temporarily until I can investigate the issue. Must be malware of some sosrt.
[18:15] <vacho> sort*
[18:15] <requiest> help on emote boot in linux using pxe (not remote installation o linux)
[18:16] <TJ-> vacho: add a firewall rule on the OUTPUT tables for ipv4 and ipv6 DROPing all outoging to --dport 25 maybe ?
[18:16] <OerHeks> !lstp
[18:17] <vacho> TJ-: that sounds like an excellent idea..
[18:17] <vacho> TJ-: do you mind walking me through it?
[18:17] <Knight80> k1l I actually turned to xfce4 from Gnome... Since then, there's no sound...
[18:17] <EriC^^> vacho: iptables -A OUTPUT -p tcp --dport 25 -j REJECT ( found this here http://superuser.com/questions/291439/disable-or-block-outgoing-email )
[18:18] <TJ-> vacho: "sudo iptables -I OUTPUT 1 -p tcp -m tcp --dport 25 -j DROP' sudo ip6tables -I OUTPUT 1 -p tcp -m tcp --dport 25 -j DROP"
[18:18] <EriC^^> maybe add another port that's used for ssl ? TJ- ?
[18:18] <vacho> TJ-: iptables -A OUTPUT -p tcp --dport 25 -j REJECT ... will that do both ipv6 and ipv4?
[18:19] <TJ-> vach duplicate those rules for ports 587 and 465 just in case your MTA tries to deliver to the secure services
[18:19] <vacho> TJ-: done!
[18:19] <TJ-> vacho: "iptables ..." does IPv4; "ip6tables ..." does Ipv6
[18:19] <bagolytoll> how to set up quota on raid?
[18:20] <vacho> TJ-: gotcha, well thanks guys..really helpful thanks TJ and EriC^^
[18:20] <EriC^^> sure thing
[18:20] <requiest> help on remote boot in linux using pxe (not remote installation of linux)
[18:21] <TJ-> vacho: note the use of "-I <chain> 1" to ensure that rule is the first in the chain. If you used "-A <chain>" it'd be added to the end , which may mean some other rule processes/allows the packets and your new rule is never reached
[18:21] <rinki> thanks all those that helped with my problems running x after update! turns out to be a touchscreen calibration profile i modded!
[18:22] <k1l> Knight80: i would start and see if there are known workarounds for that games. i self tested some older games and there the old workarounds dont work anymore.
[18:22] <OerHeks> requiest, lots of docs https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DisklessUbuntuHowto https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PXEInstallServer or https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuLTSP
[18:23] <bagolytoll> Can anybody help with quota? Error: Cannot guress format from filename on /dev%sik%by-uuid/... Please specify format on commandline. Cannot find filesystem to check or filesystem not mounted with quota option. RAID 1
[18:23] <OerHeks> requiest, remote boot is so wide, what do you want to do exactly?
[18:23] <Knight80> k1l Thank you :)
[18:23] <TJ-> requiest: 'cobbler' is a good package for auto-deploying PXE boot profiles
[18:24] <Knight80> By the way, one of the games is Mania Drive, binaries downloadable from here -----> http://maniadrive.raydium.org/index.php?downloads=yes
[18:26] <higgsboson> hello everyone, I recovered some video files, and I get 'could not determine the type of stream' error when I want to see their contents. does it mean they are corrupted?
[18:28] <daftykins> higgsboson: try running them via 'mediainfo' or just playing them...
[18:28] <requiest> 60 pc with i3 with 2g ram 500 gb hdd on that windows os my requirement is only shell login is required without using window. o.s should boot through server
[18:29] <higgsboson> daftykins, the error comes when I just play them
[18:29] <daftykins> probably hosed then, double check with mediainfo
[18:31] <shudon> hi all :) i'm using ubuntu 14.04. i don't have a touchscreen. how can revert back to classic scrollbars? these new ones are always getting in the way :(
[18:31] <shudon> or is there a key i can hold to suppress the appearance of the scroller that pops up when my cursor goes near the scrollbar?
[18:31] <shudon> really anything could help
[18:32] <OerHeks> shudon, unity tweak can do that
[18:33] <k1l> shudon: run in a terminal: gsettings set com.canonical.desktop.interface scrollbar-mode normal
[18:34] <higgsboson> just now my cursor is locked, touchpad doesnt work. is there a way to release it back?
[18:34] <higgsboson> or something I could check?
[18:35] <OerHeks> higgsboson, fn + internal/externalmouse key ?
[18:36] <RNeville> Hello, I'm using the Firefox plugin Dictionary.com and when I try to get this plugin to play the sound recording for the work I get this error message: Activate VLC Multimedia - any help appreciated
[18:36] <higgsboson> OerHeks fn+F8 and fn+left touchpad key didnt work so far
[18:38] <Bilel_mk> /msg NickServ VERIFY REGISTER Bilel_mk zbrfocfnaaay
[18:38] <Knight80> I've got a laptop with Ubuntu 15.04 and sound is working with Mania Drive!
[18:39] <Knight80> I can't wrap my head around it
[18:39] <daftykins> RNeville: sounds like your default application association in Firefox is to run VLC, but that doesn't work quite right - you might want to ask the Mozilla folks in their own channel, they may be very familiar with this
[18:40] <requiest> 60 pc with i3 with 2g ram 500 gb hdd on that windows os my requirement is only shell login is required without using window. o.s should boot through server
[18:40] <k1l> requiest: and where is the issue now?
[18:41] <daftykins> requiest: no need for a repeat.
[18:41] <requiest> ok i am sorry thank you
[18:41] <ratio> hi this is more a general linux question, but I have a shell account with limited priviledges, and keep getting errors like this: not allowed to execute '/usr/bin/apt-get install -q -y software-p roperties-common' as root
[18:42] <devsys> Hi All, I have been struggling with an issue as of late -- my /boot partition has became full presumably due to kernel updates. I manually purge these from time to time, but I was wondering why this is happening and if there is a way to do this in a more automatic fashion? Thanks
[18:43] <k1l> ratio: best is to talk to the shell hoster about such sings. we dont know what the limited the accounts to and if they have a 3rd party pacakge system or they install packages for you on demand
[18:44] <ratio> ok ty
[18:44] <k1l> devsys: which ubuntu exactly?
[18:44] <devsys> k1l: I am on Ubuntu 14.04.3 LTS
[18:44] <OerHeks> ratio, maybe a typo ? software-p roperties-common
[18:45] <devsys> k1l: uname -a says I am on 3.13.0-65-generic
[18:45] <k1l> devsys: ubuntu added scripts to the kernel install so old kernels get marked as "to be removed by apt-get autoremove" but i dont know since when that works
[18:46] <k1l> devsys: at least since 15.04 i only need to run "sudo apt-get autoremove" to get rid of old kernels
[18:46] <devsys> k1l: Ok, maybe I need to do a dist upgrade then
[18:47] <daftykins> k1l: not certain myself either, but i've seen it since 14.04 first hand
[18:48] <k1l> devsys: did you try a apt-get autoremove?
[18:48] <daftykins> devsys: every time i install a new one i reboot into it then purge the last :)
[18:48] <devsys> I think it works on my version, it's trying to do a kernel upgrade at the same time and failing formt he looks of it (due to the full /boot)
[18:48] <daftykins> yeah you won't be able to autoremove whilst an install attempt is going
[18:49] <devsys> ok, I guess I'll have to manually purge some of the old kernels and then retry
[18:49] <daftykins> you'll need to use "sudo dpkg -r linux-image-extra-3.13.0-##-generic linux-image-3.13.0-##-generic" to clean some out
[18:49] <devsys> ok thanks trying that now
[18:49] <bruins> is there a way to install 15.05.01 LTS if you are -currently- on 15.05.03 LTS (.01 will maintain 3.x kernel, while .03 will require a kernel upgrade to 4.x to maintain support)
[18:50] <baizon> bruins: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Releases
[18:51] <k1l> bruins: its about enablement stack. if you install the "linux-generic" you will add the 14.04 3.13 kernel again.
[18:51] <k1l> !enablementstack
[18:51] <bruins> ok hmm
[18:51] <bruins> i dont need that , it is a VM
[18:52] <bruins> it says on the release page that support ends fairly soon, but the support doesnt matter you are saying?
[18:52] <k1l> bruins: no
[18:52] <daftykins> bruins: 15.04 is EOL end of January i think yeah, you shouldn't be running it by then
[18:53] <k1l> see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kernel/LTSEnablementStack it explains how the kernel is supported on the LTS versions.
[18:53] <k1l> bruins: you can switch the (backports) kernels easily with the enablement-stack packages like shown on that wiki page
[18:53] <bruins> i apologize
[18:53] <bruins> i am on 14.04.03, and this is re: 14.04
[18:53] <bruins> so i am looking at 2019 EOL
[18:53] <bruins> :/ sorry
[18:53] <higgsboson> I had to restart for the cursor problem
[18:54] <bruins> EOL for 14.04.03 is before 14.04.01, i would like to stay with 01 i feel is the right choice, but i am currently on 14.04.03
[18:55] <k1l> bruins: either you go "back" to the 3.13 original 14.04 kernel or you move through the backports kernels to the 16.04 kernel then. https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kernel/Support?action=AttachFile&do=get&target=Ubuntu+Kernel+Support+Schedule.png
[18:55] <k1l> bruins: do you even read what i explain?
[18:55] <bruins> i see your highlight above now, ok
[18:55] <bruins> i missed when typing..
[18:55] <daftykins> bruins: 14.04 can be using the supported 3.13 kernel *AND* show up as being 14.04.3 when checking version - it's about updated packages.
[18:56] <devsys> k11 & daftykins: Thanks for the help, I got it straightened out
[18:56] <daftykins> bruins: installing 14.04.3 from 14.04.3 media can show up as being the 3.19 kernel due to coming with the vivid (15.04) HWE stack. this kernel does *NOT* go EOL when vivid goes EOL.
[18:56] <daftykins> i believe all of this is covered in the links you were given :)
[18:57] <k1l> bruins: see the wiki page the bot mentioned. it explains it and got nice pictograms :)
[18:57] <bruins> ok :) wow yes
[18:57] <bruins> i am writing your help to emails now
[18:57] <bruins> and will source here of course
[18:58] <bruins> thank you all -- i wasnt' sure and this is a long term question brought up --
[18:58] * bruins back to programmin.. ;/
[18:58] <Massrawy> Hello everyone ..
[18:58] <daftykins> bruins: what do you mean writing to emails? :P
[18:59] <Massrawy> i seem to be off today .. I am not able to set a user cron job ...
[18:59] <daftykins> Massrawy: support only, chat in #ubuntu-offtopic
[19:00] <Massrawy> daftykins: thanks.
[19:00] <Pici> Massrawy: er... are you asking for support for that?
[19:00] <bruins> i am deploying project to 14.04.03, and spec includes software/kernel support for x years.. i wrote asking the same questions i am asking here. :) now with real answers, and eye-candy answers..
[19:00] <daftykins> i figured the question might have been coming :)
[19:00] <Pici> Massrawy: Because this is the channel for that, I dont know why you were pointed to the other channel.
[19:01] <daftykins> bruins: ah ok, yeah as long as you setup new systems from 14.04.0 or 14.04.1 media then, they'll dist-upgrade to 14.04.3 but keep the 3.13 kernel and not have any HWE stack hassle
[19:02] <Guest76042> Alt-Tab does not display desktop in elementary freya
[19:02] <Guest76042> is it possible to configure that
[19:02] <Guest76042> ?
[19:02] <Bashing-om> !EOS | Guest76042
[19:02] <k1l> Guest76042: please ask the elementary guys about issues on ther OS
[19:03] <k1l> !elementary | Guest76042
[19:04] <bpye_> Would a library in Ubuntu 14.04 that will not work with Clang 3.5 without a newer commit being added be considered a bug?
[19:05] <Guest76042> apparently that channel seemed inactive..so I asked here considering that elementary is based on ubuntu 14.04
[19:06] <daftykins> Guest76042: yes, however we do not support it here regardless. if you want support, install a supported Ubuntu release, sorry.
[19:06] <Bashing-om> Guest76042: But in Elementary, there are differences we here on ubuntu would not be aware of . thus no support .
[19:06] <Massrawy> Pici: yes I am
[19:07] <Massrawy> I think my issue is something silly but I have been focusing on it so much I just need another set of eyes to point what is the problem
[19:07] <daftykins> Massrawy: you need to type it out then, possibly in a http://paste.ubuntu.com if it's long :)
[19:07] <Pici> Massrawy: The task that you described in the other channel would run daily at 6am, is that when you want it to run?
[19:08] <Massrawy> Pici: yes, however it's not running for some reason
[19:08] <Massrawy> i will be glad to post anything needed on pastebin
[19:09] <Pici> Massrawy: Can you pastebin the script that you're trying to run?
[19:10] <Massrawy> sure .. thaks for the help, working on it now.
[19:10] <Massrawy> *thanks
[19:11] <Massrawy> here it is http://paste.ubuntu.com/13316444/
[19:13] <Pici> Massrawy: and if you run that manually with root, it works?
[19:14] <sarink> i just downloaded the nodejs tarball from https://nodejs.org/en/download/stable/ and then unzipped it, where do i put this folder now? where would it go if i had installed from apt? (i didn't because i wanted v5.0.0)
[19:14] <Pici> Massrawy: what you can do is include a >> /root/apt.log 2>&1 at the end of your crontab line (before the comment, of course) which should log all stdout and stderr to that file. Also make sure that there is indeed an entry for this line in /var/log/auth.log, it should say that CRON ran something.
[19:16] <daftykins> sarink: finding a PPA would've been a lot better than attempting a manual install
[19:18] <Massrawy> ok .. making changes now and will update
[19:20] <Massrawy> run-parts /var/spool/cron/crontabs -v would be the correct way to force/test the cron job, right ?
[19:22] <sarink> daftykins: it's a zip file of the binaries, is it more complicated than just putting it somewhere and adding the bin folder to the path?
[19:22] <sarink> i don't have to compile it
[19:22] <Pici> Massrawy: I've never done it that way, usually I just modify the crontab to have the thing run close to now.
[19:23] <mcphail> Massrawy: silly question, but have you made sure there is a newline at the end of the crontab?
[19:24] <Massrawy> mcphail: you know what, actually there is now new line ! ... would that be an issue ?
[19:24] <mcphail> Massrawy: yes - see the end of "man 5 crontab"
[19:24] <Massrawy> Pici: adjusted to 2 minutes from now and will see how it goes
[19:25] <mcphail> Massrawy: age old crontab bug
[19:28] <Massrawy> mcphail: Pici ... thank you both ! it seems like the run-parts command was throwing me off, as suggested by Pici adjusting the time to test seemed to have kicked the job, for the sake of sanity I added the line as suggested by mcphail
[19:29] <daftykins> sarink: i'm not a dev so i can't comment on the usage of that product, however i'd be willing to bet there are channels where folk might be able to tell you if there *is* a PPA or better way to set it up; try messaging alis to find channels
[19:33] <emadhelmi> hi dears i have open vpn on my IOS tablet an on my windows but i dont know how to connect with a openvpn connection
[19:33] <emadhelmi> i means usisng a ".ovpn" file
[19:34] <django_> 2nd time since iv einstalled ubuntu that i get an error that it crashed and it wants to send data to ubuntu
[19:34] <django_> is this normal?
[19:36] <django_> https://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/O6YHZ8dm/
[19:37] <rinki> help! trying to use xinput calibrator but device id's change every boot!
[19:39] <akik> emadhelmi: do you have the certificate and tls key too?
[19:39] <starligh1> hello :)
[19:40] <akik> emadhelmi: open the .ovpn file and see what files are referenced there
[19:40] <daftykins> django_: just remove the logs, if it happens again... then you need to check up on it
[19:40] <django_> daftykins: its happened multiple times
[19:40] <django_> ive only had ubuntu for like 3 weeks
[19:40] <django_> or so
[19:40] <emadhelmi> akik, yes i do
[19:40] <starligh1> does anyone know how I can make a script file with a bunch of export A=B?
[19:40] <daftykins> django_: with deleting you mean, or that it comes up on every boot? because it will pop up on every boot if it happens once
[19:41] <OerHeks> django_, yes, that is normal.
[19:41] <emadhelmi> akik, i have certificate and tls
[19:41] <daftykins> django_: also why was your image nothing to do with problems whatsoever?
[19:41] <emadhelmi> akik, i.e they are in the ovpn file
[19:41] <django_> daftykins: this is like 3rd time its happened, i just opened my laptop in school..i had closed it (not shut off) before leaving
[19:41] <django_> i do this all the time
[19:41] <daftykins> emadhelmi: install the OpenVPN client
[19:42] <wizzkidd> list zfs
[19:42] <daftykins> wizzkidd: what are you looking for?
[19:42] <daftykins> django_: right but have you EVER *cleared* the crash logs?
[19:42] <django_> daftykins: probably not
[19:42] <emadhelmi> sudo apt-get install what?
[19:42] <daftykins> django_: ok so then pay attention to what i'm saying...
[19:43] <daftykins> emadhelmi: look it up with "apt-cache search openvpn"
[19:43] <wizzkidd> daftykins: apologies, i didnt mean to type that publically. I'm looking for a zfs channel
[19:43] <OerHeks> emadhelmi, on Unity 14.04, all I had to do was go to edit connections, Click "add" by using the drop down list to select import a saved VPN configuration, and then select my "filename.ovpn" file
[19:44] <daftykins> wizzkidd: message the bot 'alis'
[19:44] <akik> emadhelmi: "sudo apt-get install openvpn" then "openvpn --config file.ovpn"
[19:44] <wizzkidd> daftykins: oh ok, ill try it
[19:45] <akik> emadhelmi: not sure if you need to use "sudo openvpn --config file.ovpn". probably if it adds routes
[19:45] <daftykins> akik: seems non-user-friendly to point someone to non-GUI options? :)
[19:45] <emadhelmi> OerHeks, Where is edit connections?
[19:46] <OerHeks> emadhelmi, in your network manager? like this old 12.04 page http://askubuntu.com/questions/187511/how-can-i-use-a-ovpn-file-with-network-manager
[19:46] <daftykins> on the network manager icon :>
[19:46] <akik> what non-gui what?
[19:46] <OerHeks> might be a bit different, but basicly the same.
[19:47] <daftykins> akik: why give someone a CLI solution, if they don't know how to find packages it hints at their experience level :)
[19:47] <daftykins> *package
[19:47] <OerHeks> no need for an extra package, AFAIK.
[19:47] <daftykins> good to know :)
[19:48] <akik> i'll just ignore those comments
[19:48] <xchatter> Since the upgrade to Ubuntu 15.10 my PC freezes about 3-4 times a day and I have to restart. How can I check what causes this?
[19:48] <daftykins> akik: i'm deadly serious, i think it's advice worth considering - why do you have a problem with that?
[19:49] <akik> daftykins: i gave instructions on how to use the openvpn client. i don't have a problem with it
[19:49] <daftykins> right but CLI only, which doesn't suit all users - nevermind, either you don't understand my point or don't want to.
[19:50] <akik> daftykins: if you have info on how to install the openvpn gui client, go ahead
[19:50] <mcphail> !info network-manager-openvpn
[19:50] <daftykins> akik: yes i did.
[19:50] <transhuman> hi getting a php error on UBUNTU latest stable funny thing is the error says its looking for a dll which is to the best of my knowledge a windows problem. anyone able to help http://paste.debian.net/333417/
[19:52] <daftykins> transhuman: where did this PHP file come from? have you tried to install some kind of product there? looks like something looking for a hardcoded bunch of libs
[19:52] <akik> every linux user should be able to use the shell
[19:52] <daftykins> PHP build rather than file
[19:52] <transhuman> its from my website which is running apache and wordpress
[19:52] <daftykins> akik: yes i agree, however that's not appropriate to a new user support channel
[19:53] <daftykins> transhuman: is this even an ubuntu VPS, or a debian one?
[19:53] <akik> daftykins: this channel is for all users, right?
[19:53] <transhuman> Ubuntu
[19:53] <BluesKaj> akik, learn to walk before leaning to run
[19:53] <daftykins> transhuman: if you pay someone to host this, they may have paid support
[19:53] <akik> BluesKaj: what?
[19:53] <BluesKaj> learning even
[19:54] <BluesKaj> new users that is, akik
[19:54] <OerHeks> transhuman, looks like it is not LAMP, but WAMP.
[19:54] <transhuman> no its my own hosting. I have been around the block a few, but cant figure out a solution. It says that adding extensions to the php.ini fixes it but the extensions are windows dlls so I am wondering do I need to install something on windows and copy the dll over or something
[19:55] <transhuman> not even sure if that would work on the core of it
[19:56] <daftykins> transhuman: well that is setting off alarm bells to me, what've you added recently that's calling for those files?
[19:56] <transhuman> openssl is installed and so isnt the second ubuntu package
[19:56] <dupondje> anyone knows a good file/partition recovery tool?
[19:56] <daftykins> dupondje: testdisk
[19:56] <mcphail> dupondje: photorec
[19:57] <dupondje> had a raid0 where 1 disk failed, was able to copy 1/3rd of the broken disk, but ofc the mdadm array doesn't moint anymore :
[19:57] <daftykins> which is part of testdisk :D
[19:57] <transhuman> I disabled all but the youtube plugin same thing happens. strange for sure
[19:57] <mcphail> daftykins: you type too fast for me :)
[19:57] <daftykins> mcphail: :D sorry
[19:58] <mcphail> dupondje: recovering a broken raid0 is going to be an exercise in pain/futility. Time to restore from your backup
[19:58] <VictoriaXOXO> Q: I hate these folder icons. Is this caused by the Linux version of Firefox, my DE, or something else? https://i.imgur.com/A8d1QDA.png
[19:58] <dupondje> mcphail: I know, in fact I would just want to be able to mount it, as I think nothing important is on it ... :)
[19:59] <goku_> hello?
[19:59] <daftykins> hi...
[19:59] <Jiffer> Hey
[19:59] <goku_> I'm totally new to this xchat stuff lol
[19:59] <maddawg3> cool
[20:00] <daftykins> VictoriaXOXO: got any themes on firefox?
[20:00] <VictoriaXOXO> daftykins: Not a single one. :)
[20:00] <VictoriaXOXO> I could live with the icon as long as the stupid arrow is gone.
[20:00] <daftykins> VictoriaXOXO: putting another on would be a quick test, then it could be your DE icon set yes - which DE?
[20:00] <Jiffer> Heres a good question, where do i find help on the terminal and using terminal commands
[20:00] <VictoriaXOXO> daftykins: MATE.
[20:00] <goku_> So.... xchat is just for Linux?
[20:00] <daftykins> goku_: no don't think so
[20:01] <OerHeks> Jiffer, good start https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UsingTheTerminal
[20:01] <Jiffer> goku_ Xchat is just a client of IRC
[20:01] <kisb> hexchat
[20:01] <goku_> ah
[20:02] <VictoriaXOXO> daftykins: Would it be easier to just remove the stupid arrow than the whole icon?
[20:02] <VictoriaXOXO> If yes, how?
[20:02] <VictoriaXOXO> Well, it's more of a triangle than an arrow.
[20:02] <Jiffer> OerHeks thanks for that link
[20:02] <daftykins> VictoriaXOXO: sounds more like a mozilla / firefox question that - i don't personally use bookmarks toolbars
[20:03] <VictoriaXOXO> daftykins: Hmm.
[20:03] <dupondje> The harddisk (617 GB / 574 GiB) seems too small! (< 617 GB / 574 GiB)
[20:03] <dupondje> blehhhh! :(
[20:03] <MrCee3> anyone here
[20:03] <nagromlt> need help
[20:03] <nagromlt> but drinking :D
[20:03] <VictoriaXOXO> daftykins: But if it IS the DE that I'm using... Is there a good guide to change icons?
[20:03] <daftykins> Jiffer: are you wanting to get started as a new user, or more intermediate?
[20:03] <daftykins> VictoriaXOXO: surely it's just in your system settings -> appearance config utility
[20:03] <VictoriaXOXO> daftykins: I'll look. Thanks.
[20:04] <MrCee3> I have some questions concerning cinnamon
[20:04] <nagromlt> ne1 help me w/audio?
[20:04] <MrCee3> anyone have WoW on ubuntu
[20:04] <daftykins> MrCee3: hmm i think that's more relevant to Mint support - someone might be ableto say whether it's in the Ubuntu repos these days, i'm not sure it is
[20:04] <daftykins> MrCee3: please ask the actual questions, not ask if people use things ;)
[20:05] <nagromlt> WoW try steam...?
[20:05] <daftykins> i don't think that game is on steam
[20:05] <nagromlt> travesty
[20:05] <kisb> whats wow
[20:06] <nagromlt> women of westshire
[20:06] <VictoriaXOXO> daftykins: Nope. Nothing in there. :(
[20:06] <VictoriaXOXO> Only colors.
[20:06] <daftykins> transhuman: i'm pretty certain what you have there is not ubuntu - and is not the repo installed PHP being called, so you'd need to state what your pastebin was run by :)
[20:07] <daftykins> kisb: that'd be a chat question for #ubuntu-offtopic :)
[20:07] <kisb> its fine i figured it out
[20:07] <daftykins> kisb: good stuff, but keep it to ubuntu support please :)
[20:08] <transhuman> not sure what you mean draftykins I went and pastebin'ed at paste.debian.net because its the one I always use, but this server is definately ubuntu
[20:09] <VictoriaXOXO> (Asking again. Waited some time.) Q: I hate these folder icons. Is this caused by the Linux version of Firefox, my DE, or something else? https://i.imgur.com/A8d1QDA.png
[20:09] <MrCeeIII> test
[20:09] <MrCeeIII> anyone here?
[20:09] <daftykins> VictoriaXOXO: any mileage in the theme suggestion? i highly recommend asking in the mozilla/firefox channels. message 'alis' to find them
[20:09] <daftykins> MrCeeIII: people need to stop asking that
[20:09] <MrCeeIII> I have an audio issue
[20:09] <daftykins> !details
[20:10] <nagromlt> i have one too
[20:10] <OerHeks> MrCeeIII, nope
[20:10] <VictoriaXOXO> daftykins: I guess I could ask in such a channel, but people always keep sending me back and forth. :P
[20:10] <transhuman> oh and draftykins its wily
[20:10] <nagromlt> senor tree
[20:10] <daftykins> i'll have you know i'm warm, not drafty
[20:11] <transhuman> oops sorry for the lack of tab typo
[20:11] <daftykins> VictoriaXOXO: that's because topics make more sense in places where people work with the program
[20:12] <VictoriaXOXO> daftykins: Yeah, but... Ubuntu -> Firefox -> Mozilla -> Linux -> Mate -> Ubuntu... XD
[20:12] <transhuman> I think this is one I am going to have to sit on for a while. I'll disable the youtube plugin and see if it goes away, then maybe I will change the theme and see if it goes away
[20:12] <nagromlt> i have audio problems
[20:12] <kisb> its actually faster to answer the question if you know the answer
[20:12] <daftykins> VictoriaXOXO: so install a theme, 20 second test.
[20:13] <daftykins> kisb: that was a really stupid comment, obviously people will answer if they know.
[20:13] <MrCeeIII_> i have an audio problem too... my machine wont play wma files the video shows with no sound...
[20:13] <VictoriaXOXO> daftykins: Feels dirty, but I might resort to that. I've never (EVER) installed a theme for anything.
[20:13] <daftykins> VictoriaXOXO: nor me but it saves wasting time doesn't it...
[20:13] <VictoriaXOXO> Guess so.
[20:13] <daftykins> MrCeeIII: you mean wmv? wma is audio only.
[20:13] <OerHeks> MrCeeIII_, known issue, there is no WMA drm driver in 15.04/15.10
[20:13] <MrCeeIII_> yes wmv
[20:13] <daftykins> windows media audio - windows media video.
[20:13] <OerHeks> at least, i dodn't find it.
[20:14] <MrCeeIII_> test
[20:14] <daftykins> can you stop typing that please
[20:14] <MrCeeIII_> who
[20:14] <Seveas> the who
[20:15] <OerHeks> phooh
[20:15] <MrCeeIII_> i get video with no sound although everything else works i even tried VLC
[20:15] <OerHeks> MrCeeIII_, again: known issue, there is no WMA drm driver in 15.04/15.10
[20:15] <daftykins> run the file via mediainfo to check it even has audio
[20:15] <MrCeeIII_> i have 14.04 lts
[20:15] <Seveas> OerHeks: even with mplayer?
[20:16] <OerHeks> Seveas, i have no cure yet, let me know if you find it
[20:17] <Seveas> I don't do .wm?, so can't even test :)
[20:17] <MrCeeIII_> ok thanks everyone will try mediainfo when i get home (at work now)
[20:18] <daftykins> probably needs ubuntu-restricted-extras installed at a minimum
[20:18] <OerHeks> even this PPA ppa:mc3man/gstffmpeg-keep is not working > gstreamer0.10-ffmpeg
[20:18] <daftykins> MrCeeIII_: ^
[20:19] <MrCeeIII_> daftykins i do have ubuntu-restricted extras running already
[20:19] <MrCeeIII_> thanks
[20:19] <daftykins> good stuff
[20:19] <Seveas> MrCeeIII_: did you try mplayer? It's my go-to mediaplayer for difficult files.
[20:19] <VictoriaXOXO> Q: How dangerous is it to add PPAs? Is there a list of trusted ones or what?
[20:19] <MrCeeIII_> no i haven't i will tho thanks Seveas
[20:20] <daftykins> no it's at your own risk, VictoriaXOXO
[20:20] <daftykins> !ppa
[20:20] <VictoriaXOXO> Guuuulp! :o
[20:20] <daftykins> try and avoid them as much as possible ideally - if you're more into dev work you'll likely have to dip into one or two if chasing newer versions of things
[20:21] <daftykins> risks include malicious content, or disappearing overnight
[20:21] <kisb> normally find ppas on www.webupd8.org i consider them safe
[20:21] <Jiffer> Question, I am running Ubuntu in Virtualbox, I have it in full screen mode, but everytime after I restart my box I have to do vbox addon's and its annoying , how do i do this so it will stay full screen in the future
[20:21] <daftykins> Jiffer: what are you running to resolve it each time, exactly?
[20:22] <kisb> Jiffer, is ubuntu installed?
[20:22] <Jiffer> insert guest addons
[20:22] <bradland> on a bare install of Ubuntu 14.04, which profile is adding /usr/local/bin to the path? i can't find it anywhere.
[20:22] <VictoriaXOXO> daftykins: I need to check the PPA I added.
[20:22] <daftykins> VictoriaXOXO: that's a bit of a vague statement, define 'check'
[20:22] <Jiffer> I have it installe don a 8GB virtualbox
[20:22] <VictoriaXOXO> daftykins: Well, I just want to look at the address.
[20:23] <daftykins> VictoriaXOXO: err are you sure there's no 'software and sources' settings item in MATE's settings? this really ought to be the first place you go; else the PPAs tend to get added into files in /etc/apt/sources.list.d/
[20:23] <Seveas> bradland: that's set in /etc/environment
[20:23] <bradland> i've checked ~/.profile ~/.bashrc /etc/bash.bashrc
[20:23] <bradland> Seveas: @_@
[20:24] <VictoriaXOXO> daftykins: I just found it. Does this look malicious to you? "deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/nilarimogard/webupd8/ubuntu trusty main"
[20:24] <bradland> dur, thanks
[20:24] <bradland> seems like an odd choice
[20:24] <Seveas> why?
[20:24] <bradland> there's so much path mangling going on elsewhere
[20:24] <Jiffer> So VB is running a full install of Ubuntu like 8 to 10GB, i then start it, have to run guest add ons, then reboot the box then i get full screen mode.
[20:24] <daftykins> VictoriaXOXO: i can't tell you what's safe, because i do not and will not use it - really.
[20:24] <bradland> why separate this one out?
[20:24] <VictoriaXOXO> XD
[20:25] <VictoriaXOXO> daftykins: There's no list or stats of the most widely used PPAs?
[20:25] <nagromlt> need help with audio
[20:25] <daftykins> VictoriaXOXO: i've already said it's down to you to decide
[20:25] <bradland> so invoking `/bin/bash -l -c my_awesome_script` doesn't load /etc/environment.
[20:26] <daftykins> nagromlt: you need to describe your problem to get a response.
[20:26] <bradland> sry, this is from within a cron job
[20:26] <VictoriaXOXO> daftykins: Yes, but if maaaaaany people use it, at least I'm not the only one getting screwed. :P
[20:26] <d4rklit3> hi
[20:27] <d4rklit3> something is wrong with my ubuntu instance
[20:27] <d4rklit3> the package manager
[20:27] <d4rklit3> seems totally f'd
[20:27] <d4rklit3> can i just nuke the whole thing
[20:27] <daftykins> VictoriaXOXO: then your favourite search engine will be your best approach - since these are very, very basic queries.
[20:27] <d4rklit3> and get apt to reset clean
[20:27] <Seveas> d4rklit3: what are the symptoms?
[20:27] <d4rklit3> well like i had nodejs installed
[20:27] <nagromlt> daftykins /?/ rear speakers stopped working after upgrade to 15.10
[20:27] <k1l> d4rklit3: "sudo apt update && sudo apt full-upgrade" in a pastebin please
[20:27] <daftykins> nagromlt: 5.1 set huh? is this on a stereo audio source?
[20:27] <Seveas> d4rklit3: and don't use the enter key as if it's a spacebar...
[20:28] <d4rklit3> sorry
[20:28] <nagromlt> daftykins /?/ usually I'll just reinstall pulse/alsa but this time they still dont work
[20:28] <nagromlt> daftykins /?/ 4.1
[20:28] <OerHeks> VictoriaXOXO, use it at your own risc, and report to the maintainer, not here.
[20:28] <daftykins> nagromlt: right but what's the source material?
[20:28] <OerHeks> we don't do anything about it.
[20:29] <daftykins> nagromlt: if you're playing stereo, you need to set something to tell PA to clone the output to the rear pair as well, i would wager.
[20:30] <nagromlt> daftykins /?/ not clone. had full surround befor
[20:30] <daftykins> nagromlt: you only get surround audio when the source is surround, e.g. a film - you still haven't answered what the source material is.
[20:31] <d4rklit3> http://pastie.org/private/srkq4oxwqqxxjdgkaap8hg
[20:31] <nagromlt> daftykins /?/ source? the server...?
[20:31] <nagromlt> :/
[20:31] <daftykins> the source of the audio
[20:31] <nagromlt> my cpu
[20:31] <daftykins> i.e. the thing we're talking about
[20:32] <nagromlt> ?
[20:32] <daftykins> no...
[20:32] <nagromlt> yes
[20:32] <Seveas> d4rklit3: which ubuntu version are you running? You have trusty and quantal sources...
[20:32] <d4rklit3> 14.04
[20:32] <nagromlt> ubuntu is the source?
[20:32] <daftykins> example: watching youtube, sound is stereo = 2.0
[20:32] <nagromlt> linux?
[20:32] <nagromlt> oh
[20:32] <daftykins> no you're talking absolute nonsense
[20:32] <d4rklit3> im sorry what?
[20:32] <Seveas> d4rklit3: then remove the quantal and mongodb repos from /etc/apt/sources.list and /etc/apt/sources.list.d
[20:33] <nagromlt> games I guess... but tried other things besides games... like playing audio (surround) in VLC???
[20:33] <nagromlt> all the things.
[20:33] <daftykins> you have to set up VLC appropriate to your speaker config most likely, a 5.1 dolby digital soundtrack on a film would need to be decoded to multi channel audio if your setup is analog
[20:33] <daftykins> whereas with a digital setup, e.g. optical out, passthrough audio needs to be used to bitstream dolby digital to a comptible receiver
[20:34] <nagromlt> yes... codecs that support surround dont work
[20:34] <d4rklit3> Seveas, now what?
[20:34] <nagromlt> codecs in THE source
[20:34] <daftykins> nagromlt: yeah so configure your player appropriately
[20:34] <d4rklit3> im tryin to upgrade my node version
[20:34] <Seveas> d4rklit3: once you removed that, apt should not gets its knickers knotted anymore :)
[20:34] <d4rklit3> adding the new PPA doesn't install anymore
[20:34] <daftykins> d4rklit3: your sources file is hosed, it contains multiple ubuntu versions combined, you can't do that.
[20:34] <d4rklit3> ok let me try
[20:34] <daftykins> oh Seveas already replied, sorry Seveas
[20:35] <d4rklit3> that worked
[20:35] <d4rklit3> thanks
[20:35] <Seveas> d4rklit3: we don't support PPA's. If apt is behaving correctly after fixing sources.list, our work here is done :) If you want help with a nodejs ppa, contact the ppa's author :)
[20:36] <kisb> whats wrong with the ppa
[20:36] <kisb> @_@
[20:37] <OerHeks> kisb, a PPA is just a way to make your builds on ubuntu available for anybody, and you should give support for it. we don't.
[20:37] <JediMaster> hi guys, what causes CPU system usage? I'm seeing some odd problems with a database hanging for a few minutes and at the same time the system CPU usage goes much higher than at any other time
[20:38] <daftykins> JediMaster: what's top saying?
[20:39] <daftykins> watch it and screenshot/pastebin when load spokes
[20:39] <JediMaster> daftykins, didn't have top open at the time, however got zabbix graphs
[20:39] <daftykins> well if you link some data if you have it, that wouldn't hurt - but i don't know what zabbix is
[20:40] <JediMaster> it's a 16 core VMWare Ubuntu 14.04 64 bit machine
[20:40] <JediMaster> basically normally cpu system time is around 1-2%, and it was 9% during that problem time
[20:40] <kisb> hehehe
[20:41] <JediMaster> cpu steal, 0, IRQ around 0.3%, nice 0%, iowait around 0.4% user time 12% rest idle
[20:41] <daftykins> vmware host, or guest?
[20:41] <JediMaster> guest
[20:41] <daftykins> upon what product?
[20:42] <JediMaster> vmware vsphere 6 with the guest running Ubuntu 14.04 64bit
[20:42] <JediMaster> on esxi
[20:42] <Goku_> booby
[20:42] <Goku_> don't drink go 2 meetings
[20:42] <OerHeks> !ot | Goku_
[20:43] <VictoriaXOXO> Q: When people ask me to "pastebinit" things, are there any files I should NOT share? Things that contain personal information, encryption keys, passwords, or stuff like that?
[20:43] <Goku_> !ot
[20:43] <Goku_> !ot | Goku_
[20:43] <daftykins> JediMaster: with which kernel?
[20:44] <Goku_> Hi I saw your private messgae. I never used this app before
[20:44] <JediMaster> daftykins, 3.16.0-51-generic #69~14.04.1-Ubuntu SMP Wed Oct 7 15:32:41 UTC 2015 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux
[20:44] <dziq> hi to all
[20:44] <k1l> Goku_: this channel is for technical support only. please use ##chat for chatting
[20:44] <maxtimbo> VictoriaXOXO, of course, but it isn't often somebody will ask for something that has such information in it
[20:44] <Goku_> Sorry
[20:44] <Goku_> ##chat
[20:44] <VictoriaXOXO> maxtimbo: How do I know, though? :/
[20:45] <JediMaster> Goku_, type: /join ##chat
[20:45] <daftykins> JediMaster: ok you're using trusty (14.04) with the utopic (3.16) kernel hardware enablement stack there; either run 14.04's vanilla 3.13 kernel or upgrade to the vivid (15.04) 3.19 kernel
[20:45] <dziq> I've just installed Ubunut 15.10 on my dell e7240 can anybody tell me how to disable keyboard backlight on boot?
[20:45] <dziq> I don't need it
[20:45] <JediMaster> daftykins, do you think it's a kernel related issue then?
[20:45] <daftykins> VictoriaXOXO: main reason we give support in an open channel that, so others can warn if something is unsafe to run
[20:46] <maxtimbo> You can usually tell right off the bat, VictoriaXOXO . it would say something like password or encryption. Aside from that, most private user data is encrypted and non-human-readable anyway.
[20:46] <daftykins> JediMaster: i'm telling you what to try since you don't have the information i require - however normally load is 100% per core, so 2-9% sounds like nothing to me if that's from the guests perspective
[20:46] <VictoriaXOXO> daftykins: maxtimbo: Oh, okay.
[20:46] <explosive> VictoriaXOXO: /etc/shadow and ~/.ssh/*
[20:46] <VictoriaXOXO> daftykins: maxtimbo: explosive: So almost all .log files people ask for are safe to share?
[20:47] <maxtimbo> Just use your best judgement, VictoriaXOXO . and if something strikes you as "I shouldn't share that" then don't share it.
[20:47] <JediMaster> daftykins, sorry this is averaged out over 16 cores, it certainly wasn't massively high, but more an indication something was wrong
[20:47] <VictoriaXOXO> maxtimbo: My best judgement doesn't reach Linux. XD
[20:48] <JediMaster> daftykins, have been over the mysql config many times in #mysql and other dba's have looked at it, and just noticed this with the zabbix graphs which I've not seen high system usage before
[20:48] <JediMaster> brb
[20:49] <daftykins> JediMaster: ok, well my preference is definitely to avoid these HWEs entirely and keep 14.04 trusty on the 3.13 kernel - but YMMV
[20:50] <daftykins> VictoriaXOXO: often a config file is requested to be pastebin'd, it's easy to take a quick glance over it, or perhaps grep it for common strings like 'password' etc.
[20:50] <daftykins> VictoriaXOXO: the flipside of the coin is sometimes i get people here refusing to provide me with the needed information to help due to paranoia, so there's definitely a middle road :)
[20:51] <VictoriaXOXO> daftykins: Hmm. That could be annoying. How do I do the grip thing again?
[20:51] <VictoriaXOXO> grep*
[20:51] <kisb> man grep
[20:51] <EriC^^> VictoriaXOXO: most people here are on the look out and will jump to your aid
[20:51] <daftykins> "grep <word_here> /path/to/file"
[20:52] <daftykins> add -i to grep to cover all cases
[20:52] <VictoriaXOXO> daftykins: kisb: EriC^^: Okay, sounds good.
[20:53] <VictoriaXOXO> I got this huge bookmarks folder with Ubuntu and terminal help, but no easy overview of common commands that people in here type about. No kewl cheat sheets you use?
[20:53] <daftykins> just learning really, you should write your own notes really to get going quickly
[20:54] <daftykins> !bash
[20:54] <daftykins> hmm that's not the one i was thinking of
[20:54] <OerHeks> writing cheat sheats will automatic memorize the commands
[20:54] <VictoriaXOXO> XD
[20:55] <daftykins> really you have to stick at things and use them regularly for them to go in
[20:55] <kisb> oooh i wrote one some time back. a short guide
[20:58] <daftykins> VictoriaXOXO: i always recommend the free Linux intro course on www.edx.org - called LFS101x though, for those wanting a leg up
[20:58] <maxtimbo> I stopped using the gui for common tasks and used only the terminal for a couple months to get used to it.
[20:59] <VictoriaXOXO> daftykins: Boooooookmarked.
[21:01] <kisb> i can recommend a nice short book
[21:02] <akik> youtube also has lots of videos to learn from
[21:02] <Argento> I try to start a c++ program with expect but it doesnt seem to work, isn't the line spawn "./program" correct?
[21:03] <daftykins> in my experience youtube advice folks are well below average
[21:03] <kisb> they are little kids sometimes
[21:05] <wafflejock> Argento: the c++ source would have to have been compiled into a binary and it needs to have executable permissions to be run otherwise the command you wrote is correct
[21:06] <Argento> well it is compiled into a binary I hope, when I type ./program it starts
[21:06] <Argento> doesnt that mean it's compiled?
[21:06] <wafflejock> Argento: yeah not sure I understand what the question is if the program launches, just confirming?
[21:07] <Argento> well the question is why it launches if I type ./program manually in the terminal but it just prints "spawn ./program" at the terminal when I run my expect script
[21:09] <wafflejock> Argento: hmm yeah not sure why a script would just output the contents to the console instead of running... how are you running the script itself? also can you pastebin the script and sanitize any secrets in it
[21:10] <Argento> I run it by typing ./script
[21:10] <Argento> I will paste it, hold on
[21:10] <VictoriaXOXO> Q: Is updating through the update manager the same thing as doing sudo apt-get update/upgrade?
[21:10] <EriC^^> VictoriaXOXO: yeah, it's like apt-get dist-upgrade
[21:11] <Argento> here it is
[21:11] <Argento> http://paste.ubuntu.com/13318071/
[21:11] <Argento> not much but I just wanted to see if I could get the program running as a start
[21:11] <k1l> VictoriaXOXO: not exactly. you will need to run "apt-get dist-upgrade" in terminal
[21:11] <VictoriaXOXO> EriC^^: dist-upgrade? Not regular update? :/
[21:11] <EriC^^> !dist-upgrade | VictoriaXOXO
[21:11] <django_> hello all im following a tutorial to install headless fireofx
[21:11] <django_> it says:
[21:11] <django_> "In /etc/apt/sources.list add the following line..."
[21:11] <django_> what does thatmean
[21:12] <django_> ' /etc/apt/sources.list
[21:12] <VictoriaXOXO> EriC^^: So... what's the difference between dist-upgrade and update?
[21:12] <causative> Failed to fetch http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/f/firefox/firefox-locale-az_41.0.2+build2-0ubuntu0.14.04.1_i386.deb 404 Not Found [IP: 91.189.91.13 80]
[21:12] <kisb> expect is not a shell
[21:12] <k1l> VictoriaXOXO: better use the new "apt" command since its not that confusing "sudo apt update && sudo apt full-upgrade" that makes sure you get all the package updates
[21:12] <wafflejock> Argento: haven't used this myself but the example I'm seeing here uses -f flag on the expect call itself
[21:12] <wafflejock> Argento: http://www.admin-magazine.com/Articles/Automating-with-Expect-Scripts
[21:12] <EriC^^> VictoriaXOXO: dist-upgrade is like a more powerful version of upgrade, it can remove or install packages to upgrade them, ( it basically lets you upgrade the kernel usually )
[21:12] <daftykins> django_: reduce the amount of lines you spam us with when you ask things
[21:12] <causative> I removed Firefox because I was having some problems with it, and now it won't reinstall - it can't fetch certain package files
[21:12] <VictoriaXOXO> EriC^^: My head spins.
[21:12] <Argento> wafflejock: thanks for the tips, I will give it a try
[21:13] <VictoriaXOXO> k1l: But the automatic update manager is so easy. :(
[21:13] <manes> hello everyone, do you know of an effective and loss-free compression tool for large-sized files (50-100gb) like images or iso?
[21:13] <k1l> VictoriaXOXO: its automated.
[21:13] <daftykins> causative: old version grab attempt there, did you not update package lists prior?
[21:13] <k1l> so you use that if it works for you
[21:13] <VictoriaXOXO> k1l: Well... don't I have to manually run that command every now and then?
[21:13] <daftykins> causative: which release are you on? "cat /etc/issue"
[21:13] <EriC^^> VictoriaXOXO: update just updates the package list, upgrade upgrades most packages except for the kernel, and other packages that might need additional packages to be installed or removed, that's where dist-upgrade comes in, and it can install those too
[21:14] <Pici> django_: thats a file, you'd need to edit it with your favorite editor
[21:14] <causative> 14.04.3 LTS
[21:14] <VictoriaXOXO> EriC^^: Oh, okay. Makes sense now.
[21:14] <k1l> VictoriaXOXO: the update-manager is fine. if you want to manually do it on the terminal you need the commands we said
[21:14] <kisb> update updates the repositories so that when you install a software you get the latest version or upgrade
[21:14] <VictoriaXOXO> k1l: Got it.
[21:14] <VictoriaXOXO> Easy enough.
[21:14] <django_> Pici: "In /etc/apt/sources.list add the following line. ppa:mozillateam/firefox-stable"
[21:14] <django_> Pici: do i do that in the command prompt?
[21:15] <k1l> django_: dont do that
[21:15] <k1l> django_: 3rd party repos like that PPA belong to sources.list.d
[21:15] <Pici> django_: that wouldn't be a valid entry. if you want that added, do sudo add-apt-repository ppa:mozillateam/firefox-stable
[21:15] <django_> http://www.installationpage.com/selenium/how-to-run-selenium-headless-firefox-in-ubuntu/
[21:15] <bprompt> manes: depending on what you're trying to do, but compression tools like zip or imaging tools are by definition lossless, otherwise there would be no sense in using them for archiving
[21:15] <daftykins> causative: "sudo apt update && apt-cache policy firefox | nc termbin.com 9999"
[21:16] <Pici> django_: unfortunately that part of the instructions are incorrect
[21:16] <causative> it's updating, thanks for mentioning that
[21:16] <causative> although the updating seems to be stuck at "Waiting for headers" now
[21:17] <daftykins> causative: can you copy that output into a http://paste.ubuntu.com and link it here?
[21:17] <ssarah> Guys whats the simplest way to share network folders on your home network, between ubuntu machines?
[21:17] <Xx_tiooit_xX> hay
[21:17] <ssarah> i have one with xubuntu and one with kubuntu
[21:17] <kisb> if you are updating for the first time it takes long long
[21:17] <daftykins> ssarah: for regular swapping? samba shares
[21:18] <causative> kisb, well there's no network activity, it's just waiting
[21:18] <daftykins> ssarah: bear in mind you can also install openssh-server on both; then connect by browsing to sftp://hostname/ in the address bar of your file manager, most likely.
[21:19] <daftykins> causative: what host is it trying to reach, then? if you can't paste it
[21:19] <Bashing-om> ssarah: See: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2159449 <-easiest way to cp files 'tween two Lubuntus that share the same router/house (Morbius1)
[21:19] <causative> daftykins, http://paste.ubuntu.com/13318135/
[21:19] <bprompt> ssarah: I'd say Samba of course, haven't needed to use it, but samba shares would work on pretty much any OS
[21:19] <causative> daftykins, oh wait now it said Ign http://dl.google.com stable InRelease and it's waiting for headers again, so i guess it's still going
[21:20] <kisb> causative, its not stuck
[21:20] <manes> brompt, I see..are there any command line options to adjust compression ratio with these tools?
[21:20] <daftykins> causative: if you're on a slow connection, patience is key :)
[21:20] <bprompt> manes: sorta, depends, what are you trying to compress and for what purpose?
[21:21] <ssarah> thanks guys!
[21:21] <manes> brompt, an .img file
[21:21] <manes> so that it occupies less space
[21:21] <bprompt> causative: just do some catchup on your X-files watching, that'd cover for the updates =)
[21:22] <fernando_> ubuntu o ubuntu Mate ?????
[21:22] <fsociety> hi
[21:22] <dziq> ok I've add echo 0 > /sys/class/leds/dell\:\:kbd_backlight/brightness to /etc/rc.local
[21:22] <Guest11850> salve sou br porra
[21:22] <dziq> but it's not working
[21:22] <fernando_> hello
[21:22] <daftykins> fernando_: try both, pick - that choice is personal so we can't tell you
[21:23] <bprompt> manes: you're trying to compress an img file? hmmm I guess if the file itself is "not" compressed, you could.... I'd use something like bzip2 or rar, either of those have a better compression ratio than zip
[21:23] <Guest11850> hello
[21:23] <Guest11850> nbs
[21:24] <daftykins> !english | Guest11850
[21:24] <bprompt> manes: if the .img file has some compression already, you won't get much savings out of any compression tool though, usually depending on the imaging app used to do the .img, you can do some compression "while" making the .img
[21:24] <manes> bprompt, the file itself is not compressed.
[21:24] <bprompt> manes: then try bzip2 or rar
[21:26] <wafflejock> manes: just did some searching on gzip vs bzip2 vs 7zip apparently in that order they typically fastest to slowest in terms of compressing and least compression to greatest compression (without adjusting defaults)
[21:26] <wafflejock> manes: they all have flags for adjusting the particular details of the compression as well though
[21:27] <manes> wafflejock, so if speed doesnt matter, 7zip hast the best compression rate
[21:27] <manes> is the one to choose, I mean
[21:27] <wafflejock> manes: in general with the defaults... not sure about all the details though
[21:28] <jct500thz> I'm having a slight sound problem. my sound is coming out of my laptop instead of my TV, and I think it's because my laptop's the default... Is there any way to change that? I'm running Ubuntu 14.04 LTS with XUbuntu installed, and I'm using Pulseaudio.
[21:28] <daftykins> so xfce? pavucontrol might help to pick device, jct500thz ?
[21:29] <bprompt> manes: not sure on that, I think it depends, I've used 7zip .7z format... I don't recall it to be better than rar's though
[21:29] <jct500thz> Isn't pavucontrol a terminal thing, daftykins?
[21:29] <bprompt> maybe comparable, but not better
[21:29] <trimeta> My Ubuntu-based server has been randomly crashing lately...one moment it's fine, and then my ssh connections drop and it stops responding to any requests.
[21:29] <daftykins> jct500thz: one way to find out
[21:29] <daftykins> wouldn't hurt either way
[21:30] <Pici> w/50
[21:30] <trimeta> I tried plugging in a monitor and keyboard while it's in this crashed state, but entering stuff on the keyboard doesn't wake up the monitor.
[21:30] <knix> bit of a random question: Dell AOIs with Ubuntu come with a funky presintalled Ubuntu splash video. Is that unique to Dell? I presumed (incorrectly) that an OEM install might include it
[21:30] <daftykins> trimeta: VPS or physical system at home?
[21:30] <trimeta> Physical system that I can poke at as needed.
[21:30] <trimeta> Although that hasn't been helping.
[21:30] <jct500thz> daftykins, It launches a GUI setup, and actually, that's the one I use. What would I need to do inside of pavucontrol?
[21:30] <daftykins> jct500thz: dig around to change default *shrug*
[21:30] <trimeta> I'm looking through logs to see if anything shows what happened, but kern.log just shows the progress of my BTRFS RAID5 rebalance operation.
[21:31] <manes> bprompt, 7zip man page says it has the highest compression, that would be preferable
[21:31] <jct500thz> Mmkay
[21:31] <daftykins> trimeta: i'd be memtesting or checking SMART disk health personally
[21:31] <dziq> anyone knows how to disable keyboar backlight on boot?
[21:31] <wafflejock> manes: some tests here http://catchchallenger.first-world.info//wiki/Quick_Benchmark:_Gzip_vs_Bzip2_vs_LZMA_vs_XZ_vs_LZ4_vs_LZO 7z uses LZMA I'm pretty sure
[21:31] <EriC^^> dziq: how do you disable it usually?
[21:32] <dziq> fn+right arrow
[21:32] <dziq> this is wired, the problem exists only on ubuntu
[21:32] <dziq> previously I've had Fedora
[21:33] <dziq> no issues with kbd backlight
[21:33] <EriC^^> is there a command you can run to disable it?
[21:33] <AndChat|262656> Hello there
[21:33] <dziq> EriC^^: yep
[21:33] <EriC^^> dziq: add it to /etc/rc.local maybe
[21:33] <EriC^^> what's the command?
[21:34] <dziq> red_apple: echo 0 > /sys/class/leds/dell\:\:kbd_backlight/brightness
[21:34] <dziq> EriC^^: echo 0 > /sys/class/leds/dell\:\:kbd_backlight/brightness
[21:34] <Sputniks> Anyone here know use kali
[21:34] <dziq> but I have to run it as root
[21:34] <EriC^^> dziq: try adding it to /etc/rc.local
[21:35] <jct500thz> Daftykins, I figured it out. Thanks for telling me where to go!
[21:35] <dziq> EriC^^: i've tried
[21:35] <manes> wafflejock, just selected 7z, and started compression. that seems to be the right one
[21:35] <dziq> no luck
[21:35] <EriC^^> there might be a kernel parameter you can add to grub too
[21:35] <daftykins> jct500thz: \o/ np!
[21:35] <dziq> yes I've added video.use_native_backlight=1 to grub.cfg
[21:35] <dziq> it's not working too
[21:36] <manes> bprompt, wafflejock, thank you very much for your insights!
[21:36] <EriC^^> try adding the command to root's crontab as @reboot
[21:36] <Sputniks> I need try break my wifi wpa2.... Im using aircrack ng
[21:36] <wafflejock> manes: np always good to learn a bit more myself too, have typically just used gzip and called it good enough but good to know the trade offs for each
[21:37] <daftykins> Sputniks: no, that topic is not permitted here nor on freenode.
[21:37] <Sputniks> Ops...im sorry
[21:37] <bprompt_> manes: well, in a farmer's market, if you ask anyone of the tomatoes vendors who has the best and juicest tomatoes, he/she would say he/she does, yes, if you ask 20 of them, you'd have 20 stands selling the best and juicest tomatoes, by superlative terms, of course, all 20 are being subjective and 19 of do not have the best and juicest one
[21:38] <devsys> Hi all, it seems the DNS servers I have set in my resolv.conf have become entirely too slow to use. I wish to remove them, what is the correct way to to this? The resolv.conf file says not to edit directly.
[21:38] <bprompt_> manes: so, yes, 7zip website will say things like that, pretty sure zip tools will say the same thing
[21:39] <daftykins> devsys: server or desktop?
[21:39] <devsys> server
[21:39] <wafflejock> bprompt_: I don't think the benchmarks I linked are related to 7z in any way and found quite a few posts claiming the same results
[21:39] <daftykins> devsys: as long as 'resolvconf' has been purged, you can hardcode resolv.conf after one reboot
[21:39] <MonkeyDust> devsys sudo -e /etc/resolvconf/resolv.conf.d/base
[21:39] <wafflejock> bprompt_: I don't have any personal loyalty to 7z or anything :)
[21:40] <MonkeyDust> devsys nameserver x.x.x.x ... save... then: sudo resolvconf -u
[21:40] <devsys> MonkeyDust: that is what I did to add the new nameservers, it was blank, the current nameservers in resolv.conf aaren't listed. Does that mean resolv.conf was likely initially edited manually>
[21:40] <bprompt_> wafflejock: hmmm I wasn't referring to your links :), I was just pointing out that the 7zip website will say things like that, since that's what manes mentioned, manes was referring to the 7zip website though, not your links as I understand it
[21:40] <MonkeyDust> devsys yes, it's a blank file, add 'namerver x.x.x.x' and save
[21:40] <manes> bprompt, it is not written on 7zip page, but on ubuntu man page
[21:41] <devsys> MonkeyDust: thanks, I did that and now I have the new nameservers as well as the old ones in my resolv.conf, should I just manually remove them from that file?
[21:41] <daftykins> devsys: perhaps you're seeing 127.0.1.1 in there?
[21:41] <MonkeyDust> devsys did you sudo resolvconf -u <-- means update
[21:41] <wafflejock> bprompt_: ah yeah gotcha, yeah never good to just trust the salesman or provider to tell you who's best
[21:41] <manes> I said 'bprompt, 7zip man page says it has the highest compression, that would be preferable' not '7zip website'
[21:42] <bprompt_> manes: ok.. have you checked rar's benchmarks? dunno, I've used .7z format and rar, at least .7z is comparable to .rar, I'm not sure is better, I've seen some .rar with decent compression, then again, keep in mind, that also depends on the source that's being compressed, if it has enough redundant data or not
[21:42] <devsys> MonkeyDust: yes I ran that, I did get some sendmail errors, not sure what that was about, but if I cat the resolv.conf I have the nameservers I added to base as well as the original ones (that were presumably hardcoded into resolv.conf)
[21:43] <samthewildone> well this isn't fun...
[21:43] <samthewildone> I just installed 15.10 and I get the same error I got on 14.04.3LTS
[21:43] <samthewildone> something about problems with Xorg
[21:43] <zykotick9> devsys: you might want to check /etc/network/interfaces and verify the old nameservers aren't specified there
[21:44] <devsys> Ok, I found the old nameservers listed in head, removing them now,. Mystery solved
[21:44] <wafflejock> samthewildone: new system or graphics card or something?
[21:44] <samthewildone> wafflejock, same system since ww2
[21:45] <OerHeks> still having themes problems, sam ?
[21:45] <samthewildone> wafflejock, plus I just installed 14.04.3LTS about 8.5hrs ago
[21:45] <phantasos> hi
[21:45] <samthewildone> wafflejock, took it off and slapped on 15.10 Gnome
[21:45] <k1l> samthewildone: what issues exactly?
[21:45] <samthewildone> OerHeks, yup
[21:45] <devsys> Last question about the resolv.conf, do I need to restart networking or anything for it to take effect?
[21:45] <daftykins> devsys: you can no longer do that on ubuntu
[21:45] <daftykins> regardless
[21:45] <MonkeyDust> devsys won't harm, i guess
[21:46] <samthewildone> k1l, after I do all my installing and building of applications, I get a apport error about xorg fail/crashed.
[21:46] <daftykins> full reboot is best
[21:46] <MonkeyDust> devsys ok, what daftykins says
[21:46] <devsys> ok Ill bounce it, thanks again all
[21:46] <k1l> samthewildone: what installing?
[21:48] <blb14409> hi, is it possible to find out what config option where used to build a ubuntu package?
[21:48] <ikonia> reading the package manifest will show it
[21:49] <quest9> hi i have problem on my package.. help me
[21:49] <daftykins> quest9: details
[21:49] <OerHeks> blb14409, DEB_BUILD_OPTIONS
[21:49] <samthewildone> k1l, my typically applications I install on a new install
[21:49] <dunk> I'm getting this error when I try to install some packages: Failed to fetch http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/k/krb5/libkrb5support0_1.12+dfsg-2ubuntu5.1_amd64.deb 404 Not Found [IP: 91.189.92.200 80]
[21:49] <dunk> Seems that the 5_1 version is not there
[21:49] <dunk> But 5_2 is
[21:50] <dunk> I have done apt-get update before installing
[21:50] <dunk> but to no avail
[21:50] <dunk> any idea what I'm doing wrong?
[21:50] <quest9> error w3af..
[21:50] <k1l> samthewildone: and prior to that all worked?
[21:50] <quest9> i use backbox
[21:50] <samthewildone> k1l, its a fresh install, how would I know ?
[21:50] <daftykins> dunk: what version is this? "cat /etc/issue"
[21:50] <k1l> dunk: run "sudo apt-get update" before?
[21:50] <k1l> !backbox | quest9
[21:51] <dunk> k1l: I have.
[21:51] <quest9> oke.thanks friend
[21:52] <dunk> daftykins: Ubuntu 14.04.3 LTS
[21:52] <dunk> I'm installing via Docker
[21:52] <k1l> dunk: that version is outdated. maybe the mirrors you are using still got the old package list. just wait some time to let it sync or use another mirror
[21:52] <dunk> The install commands are in a Dockerfile
[21:53] <daftykins> do it natively
[21:53] <dunk> I can't
[21:53] <dunk> My whole build chain is Docker
[21:53] <daftykins> oh it's one of those stupid restricted setups, i see
[21:53] <causative> thanks daftykins ... now after reinstalling firefox, it's still having the same problems as before, chiefly: the address bar drop down box isn't working
[21:53] <daftykins> causative: reset your profile with it.
[21:54] <daftykins> close all open windows, then run "firefox -profilemanager" to start it; either delete the existing if you require no backup, or create a test profile
[21:56] <causative> daftykins, still doesn't work after doing that
[21:58] <daftykins> causative: try a purge reinstall
[21:58] <blb14409> ikonia: where do I find package metafile?
[21:58] <dunk> daftykins: once you buy in, you're kinda fucked
[21:59] <dunk> In some ways I regret this Docker decision...
[22:00] <blb14409> ikonia: I mean manifest file
[22:01] <knob> Guys, question: is 15.04 upgradeable to 16.04 when 16.04 comes out?
[22:01] <Pici> knob: no. You'll need to upgrade to 15.10 first.
[22:01] <daftykins> dunk: language, please
[22:01] <Pici> knob: You can only skip releases when you go from one LTS to the next.
[22:02] <OerHeks> knob, yes, 15.04 > 15.10 > 16.04 .. not directly
[22:02] <daftykins> ^ and even then it only becomes available at the first point release, e.g. 16.04.1
[22:02] <dunk> daftykins: sorry. A slip I won't repeat.
[22:02] <josuebarrios> hi, some have some idea about how to put a mantenance page for varios web sites from diferents web servers?
[22:03] <knob> Pici, so I can go 15.10 to 16.04?
[22:04] <bprompt_> josuebarrios: w0t?
[22:04] <dunk> daftykins: seems that with Docker the apt-get update command doesn't save the caches to the image somehow, because by putting them in the same RUN line it seems to be fixed. I know that Docker basically pulls up the container from scratch between each line in the Dockerfile (hence if you do something like try to start a db it won't be running when you come
[22:04] <dunk> to your next command), but I didn't expect the apt-get update changes to get blown away. Ah well. Yet another sharp edge to cut yourself on with Docker.
[22:06] <daftykins> dunk: nasty. do they have a channel on freenode?
[22:06] <dunk> yeah, I'm in it I think
[22:07] <dunk> I'll go have a whinge
[22:07] <dunk> :-)
[22:07] <knob> OerHeks, I just understood what Pici said with your comment. I go from 15.04 to 15.10 and then to 16.04
[22:07] <knob> What about a 14.10 server? Can I bring it up to 15.04? I am getting a bunch of errors. I think the consensus was to re-install everything in a new 14.04 server.
[22:08] <knob> Not that hard to do... I don't have that much stuff on the server, plus I have very good documentation of what I did.
[22:08] <game0> just use the following command
[22:08] <daftykins> knob: 14.04 good, 14.10 = EOL
[22:08] <OerHeks> knob, there is an oldreleases trick to upgrade 14.10, see ubottu
[22:08] <OerHeks> !eolupgrade
[22:08] <game0> do-release-upgrade
[22:08] <game0> sudo do-release-upgrade
[22:08] <knob> Thanks OerHeks ... reading up now.
[22:09] <knob> game0, trying that in a minute
[22:09] <OerHeks> game0, that does not work, on 14,10 .. too long ago.
[22:09] <knob> ahh... ok. After some time, it no longer works. ok ok
[22:09] <game0> http://askubuntu.com/questions/91815/how-to-install-software-or-upgrade-from-an-old-unsupported-release
[22:10] <game0> knob read this topic: http://askubuntu.com/questions/91815/how-to-install-software-or-upgrade-from-an-old-unsupported-release
[22:10] <game0> it's very useful
[22:10] <k1l> the bot already linked the official howto
[22:10] <knob> on my way
[22:10] <OerHeks> same info as ubuntu gives..
[22:12] <causative> daftykins, tried apt-get remove --purge firefox, then reinstalled, didn't work, so now I removed firefox and am also doing apt-get autoremove in case there is some problem in one of the supporting packages
[22:14] <daftykins> causative: you can do 'purge' instead of 'remove --purge' ; sounds fair - anything else could be down to graphics / driver / DE quirks maybe
[22:14] <daftykins> worth trying in the guest session
[22:15] <causative> daftykins, there's another problem with firefox which might have something to do with unity configuration, namely when it opens the icon in the launcher is wrong - just the generic gray question mark with a box around it. this despite the fact that there was ALSO a firefox icon in the launcher, which would launch firefox to the grey ? icon
[22:16] <daftykins> causative: yeah i'd definitely log out, log into the guest session, then test firefox; see if it behaves normally there
[22:18] <causative> yeah, autoremove did nothing either, after reinstalling it's the same as before... although I note that it didn't actually download any new packages when it reinstalled, so if there's some problem with a package maybe I need to remove the cached packages as well
[22:20] <daftykins> causative: yep, when purging i always "sudo apt-get clean"
[22:20] <vadimkolchev> Hello, got a question. Installed ubuntu then installed kde desktop, however now I have missing icons for many apps, such as firefox, thunderbird, skype and many more. How may I fix it?
[22:21] <k1l> vadimkolchev: kde from the repos?
[22:21] <vadimkolchev> k1l: yes
[22:21] <k1l> maybe you need the whole kubuntu-desktop package
[22:21] <vadimkolchev> k1l: I installed it
[22:21] <hbbunny> hey guys, I've installed ubuntu inside my windows 7 machine. I'm currently upgrading from Ubuntu 12 to 14. Unity has disappeared and not accessible. Is this normal behahiour during an upgrade?
[22:22] <mircx1> Hi s, You Are In My Friends List (ArthasScript)
[22:22] <mircx1> Info Line For s, NOTSET (ArthasScript)
[22:22] <OerHeks> mircx1, stop that script!
[22:22] <s> i do not know you
[22:22] <marsh> hello all
[22:22] <daftykins> hbbunny: inside means...? do you mean WUBI?
[22:22] <hbbunny> sorry yes
[22:23] <daftykins> sorry we don't support wubi, as it's an abomination
[22:23] <hbbunny> ok fair enough
[22:23] <marsh> i an needing help
[22:23] <OerHeks> !wubi
[22:23] <daftykins> your best bet is to backup any data, nuke it, then install beside Windows instead
[22:24] <daftykins> marsh: we're needing a question with details :)
[22:24] <MonkeyDust> marsh let's hear it, in one line
[22:25] <marsh> i just installed xubuntu and when i boot my computer it tells me to insert a bootable disk
[22:25] <MonkeyDust> marsh disable the cd-rom in your sources
[22:25] <marsh> how do i do that
[22:25] <daftykins> i think that's a bootloader comment, you mean xubuntu won't boot, marsh?
[22:26] <marsh> it will if i have the usb plugged in
[22:26] <VictoriaXOXO> marsh: Go into BIOS and change boot order?
[22:26] <marsh> but when i turn on the computer it throws me that error
[22:26] <marsh> i have done that
[22:26] <VictoriaXOXO> Oh. :/
[22:27] <daftykins> sounds like GRUB installed to the wrong drive
[22:27] <Jordan_U> !bootinfo | marsh
[22:27] <daftykins> marsh: boot, chroot your install, then install grub to the HDD
[22:27] <marsh> i have done that
[22:27] <daftykins> then what Jordan_U made ubottu say
[22:27] <marsh> and it will not boot bootinfoscript
[22:28] <marsh> it shows up in a command line
[22:28] <marsh> how do i install the grub
[22:28] <daftykins> you don't boot a script; it should upload some output to share
[22:28] <daftykins> hang on i thought you said you did try installing grub?
[22:29] <marsh> no i did not try to install the grub i was asking how
[22:29] <daftykins> ah, the timing on "i have done that" threw me
[22:29] <daftykins> so boot to your install flash drives' live session first
[22:29] <daftykins> !grub
[22:30] <marsh> it is not even showing a grub
[22:30] <daftykins> i know, that's why you're going to install it
[22:30] <daftykins> read the links :)
[22:33] <daftykins> !pm
[22:34] <Jordan_U> marsh: What do you mean by "it will not boot boot info script"? Can you boot Ubuntu in any way (including via LiveDVD/USB) and run boot info script from there?
[22:35] <causative> daftykins, from a guest account firefox works fine with respect to both the launcher icon and the address bar dropdown box, what does that mean I should do?
[22:36] <daftykins> causative: dunno, something about your ~ configs is trashing it - are you sure you tried a totally clean profile as suggested?
[22:37] <causative> daftykins, I launched firefox -profilemanager as suggested and created a new profile
[22:38] <daftykins> did you pick to run that one when you started firefox, though?
[22:38] <daftykins> so it behaved like a first run?
[22:40] <causative> wait, it is working with a new profile, I think the last time I didn't take the necessary steps to trigger the address bar dropdown box
[22:41] <daftykins> :)
[22:52] <VictoriaXOXO> Q: What's the closest application to Window's MPC-HC?
[22:52] <VictoriaXOXO> I don't like VLC.
[22:52] <daftykins> i'm a fan of that on Windows too, you're ultimately screwed - maybe mplayer
[22:53] <VictoriaXOXO> daftykins: Hmm, okay.
[22:54] <genii> VictoriaXOXO: http://alternativeto.net/software/mpc-hc/?platform=linux
[22:54] <OerHeks> Kodi ?
[22:54] <daftykins> well, Kodi is a full screen UI designed for 10 foot really
[22:55] <VictoriaXOXO> Wow. VLC at 4328 likes and MPlayer at 269 likes.
[22:56] * daftykins never liked VLC either
[22:56] <kisb> vlc awesome
[22:56] <VictoriaXOXO> You know what to do. I expect a MPC-HC port by tomorrow morning.
[22:57] <daftykins> there aren't enough cookies in all the world
[22:57] <VictoriaXOXO> daftykins: Is Wine + MPC-HC too stupid?
[22:57] <daftykins> yes
[22:57] <genii> yes
[22:57] <VictoriaXOXO> Darn.
[22:57] <OerHeks> VictoriaXOXO, it is already there, but you will find out tomorrow
[22:57] <VictoriaXOXO> :P
[22:57] <daftykins> MPC-HC uses APIs and functions for Windows only
[22:57] <daftykins> e.g. DXVA
[22:58] <VictoriaXOXO> Bah.
[22:58] <VictoriaXOXO> It's like losing a close friend.
[22:58] <genii> Something I don't see on the list there is Kaffeine
[23:01] <wizzkidd> i have zfs working on my Ubuntu 15.10 however after each restart, the zpool is not mounted. Can anyone help me make this persistent?
[23:01] <bprompt_> VictoriaXOXO: you could try installing mplayer, I use smplayer, a GUI for mplayer, is skinnable, BTW, VLC 2.x and up are skinnable, and you can change it to make it look like windows media player
[23:01] <daftykins> edit /etc/fstab for permanent file system mounts
[23:02] <VictoriaXOXO> bprompt_: That's kewl and all, but it's not the skin I'm worrying about. :P
[23:02] <daftykins> VictoriaXOXO: some specific feature, or?
[23:02] <wizzkidd> daftykins: it is not a filesystem mount... i need to import the pool
[23:03] <bprompt_> hehe
[23:03] <daftykins> wizzkidd: ok
[23:03] <VictoriaXOXO> daftykins: There's a long list of things that grinds my gears. Forget about it, since it's boring. :P
[23:03] <VictoriaXOXO> And not really for this channel, I guess.
[23:03] <bprompt_> VictoriaXOXO: vlc is just as good as mplayer, I use both, in terms of decoding, is the same pretty much
[23:03] <VictoriaXOXO> bprompt_: Well, it looks like I'm stuck with VLC or MPlayer.
[23:04] <VictoriaXOXO> I'll have to make my choice.
[23:04] <Jordan_U> VictoriaXOXO: There are many other players. Is there anything specific about the UI or features that you want?
[23:04] <bprompt_> There's a long list of things that "grinds my gears." <---- there's the clincher =P, just biases then :P
[23:05] <VictoriaXOXO> bprompt_: Pfffff.
[23:05] <daftykins> bprompt_: that was a very immature comment
[23:05] <VictoriaXOXO> Jordan_U: Many things, but I'll have to figure it out on my own, because otherwise this chat would be spammed with my ramblings.
[23:05] <bprompt_> daftykins: not sure I share you view... but I'm listening
[23:05] <daftykins> that'd be off topic.
[23:06] <bprompt_> VictoriaXOXO: well, I don't see anything wrong or better in vlc, functionality wise or decoding, to say mplayer, and I use both, so.... seems to me it's just a matter of preference
[23:06] <Jordan_U> VictoriaXOXO: If you're looking for something simple then try Totem, if you're looking for something complex and feature rich try Kodi (whose primarily HTPC oriented interface might not suite you, but it's worth a try).
[23:07] <Jordan_U> s/suite/suit/
[23:07] <bprompt_> VictoriaXOXO: either way, you don't have to like it, that's alright, but mplayer is another player you could use :)
[23:07] <VictoriaXOXO> bprompt_: I'll consider it.
[23:07] <VictoriaXOXO> Jordan_U: I'll look them up.
[23:08] <bprompt_> VictoriaXOXO: there are other "players" you'll find in the repositories or elsewhere, BUT they're usally just GUI for mplayer, they just call themselves this or that, but require mplayer for the decoding
[23:11] <torcuato869> Hi all! I'm relatively new into Linux. should i install any kind of antivirus/malware? I read a lot of contradictory things
[23:11] <Bashing-om> !virus | torcuato869
[23:11] <daftykins> torcuato869: my vote is no
[23:11] <torcuato869> Thanks guys
[23:12] <torcuato869> actually I'm using a dual boot with windows. Obviously Windows is protected
[23:13] <Pirangueiro> i need help, please. how to install office xp?
[23:13] <k1l> !wine | Pirangueiro
[23:13] <torcuato869> install libreoffice
[23:13] <daftykins> Pirangueiro: i'm sure there's a better approach to whatever your task is.
[23:13] <k1l> i guess that should mean ms office there
[23:13] <OerHeks> libreoffice is already there :-D
[23:13] <Pirangueiro> thanks
[23:14] <OerHeks> such old office without bugfixes .. good luck
[23:15] <torcuato869> What do you think about the Ubuntu Studio distro? Is a good distro?
[23:15] <OerHeks> ubuntu-studio is ubuntu, so yes
[23:15] <k1l> torcuato869: it works and is an official ubuntu flavor
[23:16] <marcus68723> Anybody experience garbage green artifacts and occasional stuttering sound when watching ATSC over the air TV in Ubuntu with a USB TV tuner?
[23:17] <marcus68723> it happens in both Kaffeine and Me-tv
[23:17] <OerHeks> marcus68723, yes, due to extentioncords without groundwire.
[23:20] <hylian> i get intramfs boot issue with uuid. I can "mount /dev/sda1" then exit to boot, how do i fix?
[23:20] <MrCeeIII> hello i need help creating a launcher on my desktop... who got me?
[23:20] <OerHeks> MrCeeIII, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UnityLaunchersAndDesktopFiles
[23:21] <daftykins> hylian: are you saying you get dropped to initramfs if your fstab contains UUIDs?
[23:21] <MrCeeIII> well im an newb would love a step by stepo
[23:22] <cblake> Anybody with experience in Creative USB X-Fi sound cards?!
[23:22] <OerHeks> that wiki is pretty clear
[23:22] <daftykins> cblake: just ask the actual question to the channel
[23:23] <akkad> is upstart supported still?
[23:24] <daftykins> in releases that use it which are still supported
[23:24] <cblake> my sound card's Mic gain is very very low.. alsamixer showing dB gain max to 6.. any ideas?!
[23:24] <k1l> akkad: its still supported. but since 15.04 we have systemd as standard.
[23:24] <wizzkidd> akkad: im trying to find out whether to use systemd or upstart to automount my zfs pools
[23:26] <akkad> is systemd easier to debug?
[23:26] <daftykins> the better question, is "what is LTS?" and the answer is not systemd until 16.04 :)
[23:26] <akkad> :D
[23:27] <akkad> so how does one clear an old pid from upstart. status shows a pid is running, stop, restart, start, all fail because they see a pid as active when it is not.
[23:27] <cblake> my sound card's Mic gain is very very low.. alsamixer showing dB gain max to 6.. any ideas?!
[23:27] <daftykins> !repeat
[23:28] <daftykins> i'd look for an alsa/pa channel - cblake
[23:28] <daftykins> in case nobody replies
[23:28] <hylian> i get intramfs boot issue with uuid. I can "mount /dev/sda1" then exit to boot, how do i fix?
[23:28] <daftykins> hylian: i asked you a question and didn't get a reply
[23:29] <hylian> daftykins: i didn't see it
[23:29] <daftykins> < daftykins> hylian: are you saying you get dropped to initramfs if your fstab contains UUIDs?
[23:29] <hylian> daftykins: i guess yes.
[23:30] <daftykins> there shouldn't be a need to guess, you should know
[23:30] <mib_mib> hi all, i have a machine with 2x480GB SSDs and 2x960GB SSDs - i want this to be a database server, and am wondering what RAID anyone would recommend here?
[23:30] <daftykins> hylian: what caused this problem to first appear? what happened between when it worked and now?
[23:30] <hylian> daftykins: this is a fresh install of ubuntu
[23:31] <daftykins> hylian: ah ok, is it the sole OS? are you typing from a live session on this system?
[23:31] <hylian> daftykins: yes sole os
[23:31] <alem> So I received a new PSU and CPU Cooler, installed everything, and when I now turn on my machine, it stalls around this area after booting grub. http://imgur.com/a/E4fvO (it is an image album)
[23:31] <alem> With image 3, that is when everything is plugged in. With image 2, that is with only my root and home drive plugged in.
[23:32] <cblake> daftykins, alright
[23:32] <daftykins> hylian: and the second question?
[23:33] <hylian> daftykins: no using another machine. and i am booting from the hd, not a usb. but like i said, i have to mount /dev/sda1 myself first.
[23:33] <daftykins> hylian: no i'm suggesting that you *do* boot from USB to poke around and fix
[23:33] <daftykins> alem: lots of disks there huh? do you press 'S' at the error in image 1?
[23:34] <alem> No, it automatically bypassed it
[23:34] <alem> Which was honestly, odd.
[23:34] <OerHeks> alem, looks like you forgot a sata cable
[23:34] <OerHeks> or notpropperly connected
[23:34] <hylian> daftykins: i have tried that first, continues to have this option. i wish i could just force intramfs to use the old /dev/sda1 system...
[23:35] <hylian> daftykins: *issue
[23:35] <BottomNotch> I have a Lenovo thinkpad x61 tablet running trusty. It has a serial touchscree that doesn't work. I know that it uses serial port /dev/ttyS4 but the instructions at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touchscreen to not help. Can anyone help me?
[23:35] <daftykins> hylian: tried what? i'm saying boot to live session then have a look around at the boot configs
[23:35] <OerHeks> alem, maybe an other sata port on your mobo, without updating the bios it will not see it.
[23:35] <OerHeks> alem, updating bios = enter bios, and save it.
[23:35] <hylian> daftykins: i did just that. /etc/fstab has the same uuid as sudo blkid says it should...
[23:35] <alem> Alright, well, I will reseat all the cables and see if that helps with anything.
[23:36] <daftykins> hylian: ok now that's language i can understand. did you try chroot-ing your installation then updating the initramfs?
[23:38] <hylian> daftykins: no, dont know how to chroot, never had to before.
[23:38] <daftykins> hylian: ok so boot to the live session first
[23:39] <hylian> daftykins: ok, i hate to do it because it's sooo slow, but.. will do
[23:39] <daftykins> from flash drive? shouldn't be.
[23:40] <hylian> daftykins: this is an older vista laptop from dell, speed isn't it's strong point. (intel celeron). ;)
[23:41] <daftykins> right, just wondered if you were booting from DVD
[23:42] <hylian> daftykins: ok booted to usb. just fyi, needed to force a driver for wifi, so now that pc is net less.
[23:42] <BottomNotch> I have a Lenovo thinkpad x61 tablet running trusty. It has a serial touchscree that doesn't work. I know that it uses serial port /dev/ttyS4 but the instructions at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touchscreen to not help. Can anyone help me?
[23:43] <daftykins> hylian: ok. have a look at the red lines here: http://karuppuswamy.com/wordpress/2010/06/02/how-to-chroot-to-ubuntu-using-live-cd-to-fix-grub-rescue-prompt/
[23:44] <jw_> join
[23:45] <daftykins> hylian: if you're not familiar with identifying your partitions and so on, "sudo parted -l" is ace
[23:47] <daftykins> naturally that guide is for something else, so skip step 7
[23:47] <BlastRed[Has> Hey
[23:48] <daftykins> lo
[23:48] <BlastRed[Has> Are my old buds here
[23:48] <BlastRed[Has> fll_
[23:48] <BlastRed[Has> lff+?
[23:48] <daftykins> support only
[23:48] <BlastRed> i cant remember his name
[23:48] <BlastRed> but it was like llm_
[23:48] <BlastRed> i think like that
[23:49] <BlastRed> and bashing-om
[23:49] <daftykins> BlastRed: ubuntu support only, chat in #ubuntu-offtopic
[23:49] <BlastRed> Yes i know haha
[23:49] <BlastRed> i was here yesterday
[23:49] <BlastRed> im resuming on my previous topic
[23:49] <daftykins> then cut the chat and follow rules please
[23:49] <BlastRed> I said, "are my old buds here" as in, "where are the people who were helping me yesterday"
[23:50] <daftykins> just resume the support query, don't fight policy.
[23:50] <BlastRed> bashing-om . where are you.
[23:50] <BlastRed> Lol
[23:51] <daftykins> we have volunteers that come and go, the best thing to do is to just ask again - hassling individual users isn't so effective if they're not here right now
[23:51] <BlastRed> Okay, generic question as im switching my other ubuntu hard drive into a computer
[23:51] <bprompt_> BlastRed: they may well be here, but unless you state specifics, you wouldn't know
[23:51] <BlastRed> oky im sorry :3
[23:51] <BlastRed> So i have two laptops of a relative size
[23:51] <BlastRed> If i replace one hard drive into the other, will that have all my files and data from the previous comp? and the OS?
[23:52] <BlastRed> .3.
[23:52] <daftykins> yes because the hard disk is the storage device
[23:52] <BlastRed> Nice....
[23:52] <BlastRed> Thats awesome
[23:52] <hylian> daftykins: i got 1 error, "unable to resolve host xubuntu"..??
[23:52] <daftykins> but only if it was on its' own, i.e. it wasn't a multiple drive system
[23:52] <BlastRed> its a problem with your internet hylian
[23:53] <daftykins> hylian: why are you trying to do anything online? chroot doesn't require this
[23:53] <BlastRed> ive gotten that before, you probably want to check your ip
[23:53] <hylian> BlastRed: um, no it's not./
[23:53] <daftykins> not even close :)
[23:53] <BlastRed> Really? i had the same error "unable to resolve host" in a certain game, and i ended up fixing the localhost code or something
[23:54] <BlastRed> haha... i know nothing; what i said never happened.
[23:54] <daftykins> it's part of an ongoing support query, so you don't know the full story.
[23:54] <daftykins> hylian: so you just nede to be in a terminal right now, mounting your partitions and then chroot-ing into it - there's no need to be online at all - i don't know why you got that message
[23:54] <daftykins> *need
[23:55] <daftykins> BlastRed: so if the hard disk was the only one in another PC, and has the full ubuntu installation on it... you can transplant the drive and boot up wherever; as long as there are no major hardware differences
[23:55] <Jordan_U> BlastRed: Yes. Depending on some important details though (proprietary drivers, and UEFI boot entries) you may have trouble booting from and running from the swapped drive though.
[23:55] <BlastRed> ah.
[23:56] <hylian> daftykins: ok so i did chroot it, do i reboot now?
[23:56] <BlastRed> One computer is compaq and one is DELL, wil that have any problem. Jordan_U ?
[23:56] <daftykins> hylian: no; because nothing has been done. if you "ls" do you see bin, dev, etc?
[23:56] <hylian> daftykins: except, it did say it didn't know the host of xubuntu when running grub-install.
[23:56] <BlastRed> i just took off the top off the bottom of my lother laptop... which one is the hard drive xD
[23:57] <BlastRed> Oh i see it...
[23:57] <BlastRed> its called a disk drie?
[23:57] <BottomNotch> I have a Lenovo thinkpad x61 tablet running trusty. It has a serial touchscree that doesn't work. I know that it uses serial port /dev/ttyS4 but the instructions at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touchscreen to not help. Can anyone help me?
[23:57] <Jordan_U> BlastRed: The brand of computer tells me almost nothing about the important differences. Do you have any proprietary drivers installed for either machine? Is either machine UEFI based (as opposed to BIOS based)?
[23:57] <hylian> daftykins: no, but this is the home folder. i did all the commands on that page, and only had an error at the very end with grub install.
[23:57] <daftykins> hylian: i said not to run that part.
[23:58] <k1l> BlastRed: please look into the make and models manual to find a howto for replacing a hdd.
[23:58] <hylian> daftykins: oops, ok, well then i am chrooted, i believe.
[23:58] <daftykins> hylian: you were supposed to mount your / partition to /mnt or similar.
[23:58] <BlastRed> Jordan_U: Both machienes are windows 7, they mostly have the same drivers. theres little to no difference
[23:58] <daftykins> hylian: no, not if this partition is your /home
[23:58] <BlastRed> machines*
[23:58] <BlastRed> Theyre both toshiba hard/disk drives
[23:58] <hylian> daftykins: yep, everything you asked for mounted to /dev. cool trick
[23:59] <Jordan_U> BlastRed: That doesn't answer either of my questions unfortunately.
[23:59] <daftykins> BlastRed: you're going to need to be in ##hardware to ask a lot of these questions, we help with Ubuntu - and whilst i personally love hardware, it's not on topic here.
[23:59] <BlastRed> Alrighty
[23:59] <hylian> daftykins: ok, so now that I have a cd looking icon that says dev, now what do i do?
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[12:19] <tdaitx> doko, ops, ended calling you at #debian-java instead of here... anyway, I have prepared new Xenial packages for OpenJDK 6 and 7
[12:19] <tdaitx> https://launchpad.net/~tdaitx/+archive/ubuntu/openjdk/+packages
[12:24] <tdaitx> doko, please review them and let me know what you found
[12:25] <tdaitx> doko, also let me know when you upload them, I need to provide a wily backport for the security team
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[10:30] <DanChapman> dkessel_: hey! sorry been without internet for a few days (it was painful!!). Did you figure out the keyboard input issue?
[13:50] <pitti> jibel: ça va !
[13:51] <pitti> jibel: it seems run-ubiquity-test does not know how to set a proxy, is that right? --help or grepping didn't reveal anything
[13:51] <jibel> pitti, ça va bien et toi?
[13:51] <jibel> pitti, I don't think it is implemented at all
[13:51] <pitti> jibel: ça va bien aussi, merci
[13:51] <pitti> jibel: ok, so I wasn't missing something
[13:52] <pitti> -o, --override PATH
[13:52] <pitti> Directory to copy into the target filesystem
[13:52] <pitti> jibel: ^ is that "target" the instance that runs the live session with ubiquity?
[13:52] <pitti> I could use that to copy /etc/environment (if it accepts a file as well)
[13:52] <jibel> pitti, let me check, it's far far away
[13:54] <pitti> custom-installation/iso-override/ sounds promising, though, although this is initramfs; but perhaps that can copy it further
[13:57] <pitti> oh, autopilot/ubiquity-autopilot-runner/custom-installation/iso-override/etc/ -- I could just add it there for a first test
[13:59] <jibel> pitti, override has the same structure than custom-installation and is copied on top of it
[13:59] <jibel> pitti, so you can either replace files on the iso or the target
[13:59] <pitti> jibel: I added the proxy vars to autopilot/ubiquity-autopilot-runner/custom-installation/iso-override/etc/environment, testing with that
[14:00] <jibel> pitti, yes that would work too, otherwise you can create /tmp/custom-installation/iso-override/etc/environment and pass -o /tmp/custom-installation/
[14:01] <pitti> jibel: ok, understood; that sounds good enough indeed
[14:03] <pitti> jibel: merci !
[14:05] <jibel> pitti, de rien!
[14:06] <pitti> yay, the bzr checkout seems to have worked
[14:12] <pitti> jibel: is there a trick to set a password for the ubuntu user so that you can ssh into the VM?
[14:12] <pitti> jibel: it already redirects the ssh port, so I can connect, but password "ubuntu" doesn't work, and ssh doesn't allow empty passwords
[14:15] <jibel> pitti, you could import your ssh key
[14:16] <jibel> pitti, write them in the override too
[14:16] <pitti> jibel: ah, put it into /home/ubuntu/.ssh ?
[14:16] <jibel> pitti, yes
[14:16] <pitti> nice idea
[14:16] <pitti> it seems stuck after "switched to page partman" here
[14:17] <jibel> if you run locally you can also run with --sdl to see what is happening
[14:19] <pitti> jibel: it works locally; I'm now running in scalingstack
[14:20] <jibel> pitti, in scalingstack firewall rules might be a problem depending on the mirror the installer uses
[14:21] <pitti> jibel: hm, that should be handled by setting the proxy already
[14:21] <pitti> /var/log/syslog: Nov 17 14:06:41 ubuntu partman: No matching physical volumes found [98/9150]
[14:21] <pitti> /var/log/syslog: Nov 17 14:06:41 ubuntu partman: Reading all physical volumes. This may take a while...
[14:21] <pitti> /var/log/syslog: Nov 17 14:06:49 ubuntu ubiquity[4026]: switched to page partman
[14:22] <pitti> those were the last messages, looks more like it's got some trouble creating and formatting a disk
[14:22] <pitti> downloading the autopilot debs into the live session works fine
[14:22] <jibel> pitti, you can start ubiquity with -d if it is not already the case and /var/log/installer/debug will contain more information
[14:23] <jibel> there is also a flag for that IIRC
[14:23] <pitti> ah, so there is
[14:23] <jibel> pitti, is there enough space in the VM to create the disk image?
[14:24] <pitti> yes, plenty
[14:24] <jibel> it'd need something like 10GB free
[14:24] <jibel> k
[14:24] <pitti> 150 GB
[14:24] <jibel> it should be enough indeed :)
[17:39] <dkessel_> DanChapman: mo - the keyboard issue is still present
[17:45] <DanChapman> dkessel_: seems it's a known issue. bug 1108742 doesn't seem to be a workaround either :-(
[18:04] <dkessel_> DanChapman: right... "affects me" ;)
[18:04] <flocculant> heh
[18:05] <flocculant> not sure that de is all that exotic nowadays :p
[18:05] <dkessel_> that really does not make it easier for international contributors to write tests
[18:05] <dkessel> I guess it's a exotic AS any non-US
[18:06] <flocculant> dkessel: blame balloons
[18:06] * balloons sees why he's blamed
[18:07] <flocculant> don't blame me for that :p
[18:07] <balloons> ugh, that seems annoying
[18:07] <balloons> I wonder if there's a simple fix
[18:08] <dkessel> The most annoying part for me is really the corrupted graphics in Autopilot vis though... with forced reboot
[18:08] <flocculant> I suspect that autopilot assumes that any keyboard not connected to an Ubuntu install is gtk2 ...
[18:09] <dkessel> I should file a bug for that graphics bug
[18:10] <veebers> flocculant, dkessel: Yes please file a bug for that, this is the first I've heard of it :-)
[18:10] <flocculant> dkessel: so does autopilot only work with en-US settings ?
[18:11] <veebers> flocculant: that wouldn't surprise me if that's the case, we haven't exactly done extensive testing with it in other locals :-\ *blush*
[18:11] <flocculant> mmk
[18:12] <flocculant> veebers: tbh - I'm only interested in as much as xubuntu qa lead - up to now, it's all been a moot point because gtk2
[18:12] <flocculant> but dkessel is trying for us again :)
[18:17] <veebers> flocculant: when you say moot because gtk2, that's what's used in xubuntu (please excuse my ignorance :-P)
[18:18] <flocculant> introspection fail with gtk2 as far as we knew/know - so we stopped even thinking about trying to use autopilot
[18:18] <dkessel> I am not giving up that easy :) But I really have very limited time lately due to commuting for 3 hours per day now, and many times when things like that happen it really stops me from getting anywhere
[18:19] <flocculant> dkessel: as you know - anything is better than what we've managed up to now :D
[18:19] <veebers> dkessel, flocculant: gtk2 is not supported by autopilot unfortunately
[18:20] <dkessel> veebers: gtk3 is really getting more common in xfce4 lately.
[18:20] <dkessel> Or Xubuntu, even
[18:23] <veebers> dkessel: ah good to hear :-)
[18:23] <dkessel> flocculant: it works with 'de', but only if the tests use some subset of ASCII in Text comparisons
[18:26] <dkessel> for example, i replaced "this_is_my_text!" with "this is the text" now because that is identical in both Keyboards. Pretty surevthat this won't work with Dvorak or French Layouts though
[18:41] <flocculant> right
[18:50] <balloons> veebers, is it not possible to actually fix https://bugs.launchpad.net/autopilot/+bug/1108742?
[18:50] <balloons> dkessel, that is one way to avoid it.. only use characters that will be the same
[18:53] <veebers> balloons: I would have to investigate, I wouldn't know how to do it off the top of my head :-\
[18:54] <veebers> balloons: At the moment the keyboard stuff is pretty barebones, I'm sure there is a better way to do it. any suggestions or help is much appreciated :-)
[19:01] <balloons> veebers, ack. I know it's bare-bones, but that maybe you did have insight on how to do it properly as it were
[19:01] <balloons> *thought
[19:02] <veebers> balloons: yeah, that's true, I didn't know how to do it properly. I would love to learn how to though :-)
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[00:23] <ffta> Hi
[00:23] <ubrl> ffta:点点点. 08:26
[00:24] <ffta> 各位，遇到一个问题，14.04.3 笔记本外接显示器怎么设置主显示器
[00:24] <ffta> xrandr --output HDMI1 --auto --primary
[00:25] <ffta> 没效果额
[01:15] <ffta> 123
[01:15] <ffta> you
[01:16] <^k^> 新 因特网相关软件 • swf文件有的能放有的不能播放问题 http://forum.ubuntu.org.cn/viewtopic.php?t=473902 gnash播放不了swf文件，原以为是gnash原因，后来发现有的swf正常，然后在win下用软件播放遇到一样的问题，播放不了的swf文件有个共性，就是软件会跳出计算序列号等信息，这是什么原
[01:17] <^k^> ─> 因？swf 被加密？ zz: jinjiachen — 2015-11-17 9:16
[02:28] <^k^> 新 Ubuntu 14.10 • 怎样检证 MD5sum？ http://forum.ubuntu.org.cn/viewtopic.php?t=473903 ？ zz: Qubun — 2015-11-17 10:28
[03:21] <^k^> 新 初学者园地 - 15.10 • 如何在文件夹中显示具体时间? http://forum.ubuntu.org.cn/viewtopic.php?t=473904 2015-11-17 11-17-32屏幕截图.png 如图,已修改部分只有日期,而不是通常的日期和时间一起显示. zz: betastar — 2015-11-17 11:20
[03:41] <^k^> 新 因特网相关软件 • ubuntu 下的firefox和win 下的firefox 的帐号不相通吗？ http://forum.ubuntu.org.cn/viewtopic.php?t=473905 如题.. 本想同步win10下的标签到ub下.... 怎么这么蛋疼..是两个服务器在管理？ zz: bwilling — 2015-11-17 11:40
[04:20] <onlylove> http://www.techug.com/tech-2
[04:20] <ubrl> onlylove: ⇪ 专家：程序员不配叫工程师 | 程序师
[04:20] <onlylove> 这篇文让我想起大教堂和集市了
[04:26] <^k^> 新 常用硬件支持 • HP 印表機 驅動 hplip 發行新版本 3.15.11 http://forum.ubuntu.org.cn/viewtopic.php?t=473906 http://sourceforge.net/p/hplip/news/201 ... ase-notes/ 1. 新增加支援型號 Added Support for the Following New Printers: - HP Color LaserJet Pro MFP M274n - HP LaserJet Enterprise M506 series - HP Laserjet Enterprise M506n - HP Laserj
[04:26] <^k^> ─> et Enterprise M506dn - HP Laserjet Enterprise M506x - HP Laserjet Enterprise M506dh - HP Color Laserjet Pro M452dn - …
[04:32] <^k^> 新 初学者园地 - 15.10 • 【求助】我的文件管理器打开的时候特别卡 http://forum.ubuntu.org.cn/viewtopic.php?t=473907 不知道怎么回事，我最近打开Ubuntu 自带的文件浏览器特别卡，一打开就是灰色的，然后等很久都没有反应，等到加载完了目录，点一下目录，就提示“ The window is not respondi
[04:32] <^k^> ─> ng ” 但是我打开其它应用的时候，就不卡，比如说打开自带的Terminel的时候，就很流畅， …
[05:51] <^k^> 新 初学者园地 - 15.10 • 初学ubuntu求帮忙 http://forum.ubuntu.org.cn/viewtopic.php?t=473908 俺是完全小白，，，在虚拟机中装了一个ubuntu 奈何连网都连不上 求帮忙，NAT不管用啊 zz: 土豆陛下 — 2015-11-17 13:09
[07:47] <^k^> 新 软件和文档翻译 • GRUB2官方文档翻译-(已完成) http://forum.ubuntu.org.cn/viewtopic.php?t=473911 本人找到了官方文档学习GRUB2，确发现英文确实很多国人(包括本人)最求技术的一大门槛。 所以本人提起了这个翻译官方技术文档的项目，希望大家能多多帮忙，让一些很好的、成熟的、还未
[07:47] <^k^> ─> 被汉化的技术文档能翻译并自由地传播。 谢谢,一下为项目地址： 有道云协助群号：4599 …
[08:39] <yunfan> 今天貌似很安静
[08:45] <^k^> 新 启动和引导 • 求救！断电后ubuntu系统崩溃！ http://forum.ubuntu.org.cn/viewtopic.php?t=473912 ubuntu14.04，断电之后重启进不去系统了，显示 target filesystem doesn`t have requested /sbin/init. /bin/sh: 0: Can't open splash 什么的，用fsck修复/etc/sda7 (ubuntu) 也没什么效果,怎么解决啊，难道只能重装吗？系统
[08:45] <^k^> ─> 上还有好多资料呢 TT zz: monster-li — 2015-11-17 16:14
[08:54] <pocmon> ubuntu中用什么命令可以提示关机、注销、锁屏
[08:57] <yurakucho> pocmon: 提示?
[08:58] <pocmon> yurakucho, 是的，我想通过命令，能出现提示选择关机、重启的容器
[08:58] <pocmon> 窗口
[08:59] <pocmon> 我在配置I3WM，想使用快捷键实现锁屏，关机，重启，注销等
[09:01] <vickycq> 看看是不是 gtk-logout-helper
[09:01] <vickycq> pocmon: 看看是否为 gtk-logout-helper
[09:02] <pocmon> vickycq, 我找到一个systemctl logout
[09:03] <vickycq> pocmon: http://askubuntu.com/questions/283984/what-is-the-shutdown-command
[09:03] <ubrl> ⇪ t: unity - What is the shutdown command? - Ask Ubuntu
[09:04] <vickycq> http://askubuntu.com/questions/65965/what-is-the-command-to-open-the-shutdown-dialog
[09:04] <ubrl> ⇪ t: 1.10 - What is the command to open the shutdown dialog? - Ask Ubuntu
[09:05] <vickycq> 不过可能过时了
[09:06] <pocmon> 在新版本没有找到这个
[09:06] <pocmon> 也没有gtk-log。。。
[09:06] <vickycq> 也可能是 gnome-session-quit
[09:06] <pocmon> 发现一个命令可以代替
[09:06] <pocmon> 锁屏用I3LOCK
[09:07] <pocmon> 注销可以 I3LOCK && systemctl logout
[09:08] <pocmon> 休眠之类可以：i3lock && systemctl suspend|hibernate
[09:08] <pocmon> 重启和关机：systemctl reboot|poweroff
[09:09] <pocmon> 刚刚试了锁屏和注销，现在来试试重启和关机
[09:09] <vickycq> 权限是否要搞一下
[09:11] <pocmon> 不用
[09:11] <pocmon> 在UBUNTU中直接可以
[09:11] <pocmon> 如果是单运行POWEROFF 就要ROOT
[09:13] <pocmon> 错了，不行，重启和关机，看来要权限
[09:14] <pocmon> 在其它图形下是怎么实现的，不用权限
[09:14] <vickycq> 应该是用policykit实现的
[09:14] <vickycq> 不懂
[09:16] <pocmon> 那不是要gksudo了
[09:16] <gebjgd> pocmon, lxsession-logout
[09:16] <vickycq> pocmon: http://winaero.com/blog/how-to-enable-shutdown-and-reboot-for-a-normal-user-in-debian-jessie/
[09:16] <ubrl> ⇪ t: How to enable shutdown and reboot for a normal user in Debian Jessie
[09:16] <gebjgd> pocmon, /usr/lib/policykit-1-gnome/polkit-gnome-authentication-agent-1 &
[09:17] <gebjgd> pocmon, eval $(gnome-keyring-daemon -s --components=keyring,pkcs11) &
[09:17] <gebjgd> pocmon, 加到你的wm 启动脚本里
[09:17] <gebjgd> pocmon, 好好读Archlinux Wiki
[09:17] <pocmon> 我看看，我是看的ARCHLINUX wiki
[09:18] <Ueno_Otoko> 学习了
[09:18] <pocmon> exiexit
[09:18] <pocmon> exit
[09:18] <vickycq> /exit
[09:19] <pocmon> 是我打错的
[09:19] <pocmon> 还不习惯这种瓦片式
[09:23] <yunfan> Ueno_Otoko: 为毛跑到我频道去
[09:28] <Ueno_Otoko> yunfan, 在找隔壁
[09:29] <yurakucho> :q
[09:29] <yurakucho> ...
[09:40] <yurakucho> roylez: Mac太难用了
[09:40] <yurakucho> roylez: zsh咋啥功能都有!
[09:41] <roylez> yurakucho: cloak都没拉？
[09:41] <yurakucho> roylez: ?
[09:41] <vickycq> ubuntu 源有没有 httpredir
[09:41] <roylez> yurakucho: c社的cloak
[09:41] <yurakucho> roylez: 我以前有?
[09:41] <roylez> yurakucho: 也许有吧
[09:41] <yurakucho> roylez: 以前也没有啊, 有也是根据IP
[09:42] <roylez> yurakucho: 这是嘛狗基ID
[09:45] <yurakucho> roylez: IT跟freenode登记一下就是咯
[09:45] <yurakucho> roylez: 我记得没有
[09:45] <yurakucho> roylez: 在之前RH的ip倒是有cloak
[09:45] <roylez> yurakucho: 无所谓，新工作咋样？
[09:45] <yurakucho> roylez: Mac不好用
[09:46] <yurakucho> roylez: 别的不知道, 我毕竟还什么都不会呢
[09:46] <roylez> yurakucho: 丫就嘚瑟吧
[09:47] <yurakucho> roylez: 还是C社爽啊 我现在每天照点儿挤地铁上班呢
[09:47] <yurakucho> roylez: 贵司爽
[09:47] <roylez> yurakucho: 别逗我，我还是无业呢
[09:50] <^k^> 新 Xubuntu & Lubuntu • 在VNC中使用xfce桌面无法打开终端，请教各位i如何解决 http://forum.ubuntu.org.cn/viewtopic.php?t=473914 我的版本是ubuntu14.04、 由于vnc中gnome和unity都是灰屏，所以采用了xfce4，但问题是一打开终端就出现如下问题： [img]C:\Users\GJY\Desktop\QQ截图20151117172617.png[/img] 要该怎么解
[09:50] <^k^> ─> 决啊。。。 图片貌似不能成功上传。我上传文件里面吧、、、 zz: gjy3035 — 2015-11-17 17:28
[10:09] <yunfan> roylez: 你怎么还失业
[10:45] <cherrot> 貌似广电一出手又干掉了一大票TV应用
[10:50] <cherrot> 记得这里谁用的是天猫魔盒来着？
[10:51] <gebjgd> cherrot, 什么盒子都会被封 还不如直接弄个Linux机器看在线呢
[10:52] <cherrot> gebjgd, 给家里用的 在想成本最低的办法
[10:52] <gebjgd> cherrot, 家里现在那么多台 看都看不完
[10:52] <gebjgd> cherrot, 哪有时间看别的东西
[10:53] <gebjgd> cherrot, 何况Android上有足够的apps
[10:55] <cherrot> gebjgd, 我又不跟爸妈住一起 他们连个智能手机用起来都费劲
[10:56] <gebjgd> cherrot, 我也不住一起 android他们没有压力
[10:58] <cherrot> gebjgd, 倒提醒我了 目前成本最低的方案就是弄个小米盒子 直接用手机投放到盒子上播放
[10:59] <cherrot> 只是没有遥控器不适应吧 唉
[11:00] <Guest66323> Hey guys
[11:11] <gfxmode> 我今天编译了4.3.0内核，第一次编译
[11:14] <vickycq> 用了多久
[11:32] <gebjgd> alvin_rxg, 我们组招人编macos客户端
[11:32] <gebjgd> alvin_rxg, 有兴趣了
[11:32] <gebjgd> alvin_rxg, 有兴趣么
[11:40] <^k^> 新 软件推荐 • 截图工具 Shutter - png 图片压缩插件 http://forum.ubuntu.org.cn/viewtopic.php?t=473915 用于截图后快速压缩，方便网络交流使用 作者： Roman Raguet 来源： http://askubuntu.com/questions/329696/screenshot-tool-with-integrated-optipng-or-pngcrush http://askubuntu.com/questions/298401/how-do-i-get-maximal-compressed-s
[11:40] <^k^> ─> creenshots 1. 安装 optipng Code: sudo apt-get install o
[11:49] <gfxmode> gebjgd: 大佬晚上好
[12:24] <^k^> 取新帖 timeout
[12:25] <majormen11989> mldonkey用不了，显示mlnet进程被阻止，要force-start，但是我force-start之后还是无法登录localhost:4080
[12:25] <majormen11989> 何解？
[12:25] <majormen11989> 求大神指导下。
[12:25] <gebjgd> gfxmode, 我确实老
[12:30] <gebjgd> majormen11989, mldonkey是什么
[12:34] <CyrusYzGTt> gebjgd§ http://mldonkey.sourceforge.net/Main_Page
[12:34] <ubrl> ⇪ f: MLDonkey
[12:35] <gebjgd> CyrusYzGTt, majormen11989 直接amule
[12:36] <CyrusYzGTt> gebjgd§ 支持 http ftp magnet bt ed2k dht
[12:36] <gebjgd> CyrusYzGTt, amule不支持？
[12:36] <CyrusYzGTt> gebjgd§ 嗯，不适合作下载机
[12:38] <gebjgd> CyrusYzGTt, https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/AMule
[12:38] <ubrl> ⇪ f: aMule - ArchWiki
[12:38] <gebjgd> CyrusYzGTt, 必须适合
[12:39] <CyrusYzGTt> gebjgd§ 不支持 ftp http
[12:39] <gebjgd> CyrusYzGTt, ftp http直接aria2c
[12:40] <CyrusYzGTt> gebjgd§ 所以说不适合作下载机
[12:40] <CyrusYzGTt> gebjgd§ 所以说不适合作下载机
[12:41] <gebjgd> CyrusYzGTt, 我的下载机就是用aria2c下载百度网盘 没觉得不适合
[12:41] <gebjgd> CyrusYzGTt, 很适合
[12:41] <majormen11989> ubrl: 现在再用amule
[12:41] <ubrl> majormen11989, 我喜欢你说话的方式。 20:44
[12:41] <majormen11989> ubrl: 主要像用mldoney的无界面
[12:41] <ubrl> majormen11989, 具体是什么带来了一样，没有mldoney使用介意？ 20:44
[12:41] <CyrusYzGTt> gebjgd§ 能够远程操作么，还要另外调用 aria2c
[12:42] <gebjgd> CyrusYzGTt, ssh screen aria2c
[12:42] <gebjgd> CyrusYzGTt, 有什么问题？
[12:42] <CyrusYzGTt> gebjgd§ 能够同时开启5个以上的任务么，
[12:42] <gebjgd> CyrusYzGTt, 多少个都行
[12:42] <CyrusYzGTt> 而且同时下载
[12:43] <CyrusYzGTt> 还可以同时下载 其他 http bt ftp magnet 协议
[12:43] <gebjgd> CyrusYzGTt, 我不需要复合协议客户端
[12:43] <majormen11989> ubrl: 我页没搞清楚。不知道为啥，在网上页没找到答案
[12:43] <ubrl> majormen11989,
[12:43] <gebjgd> majormen11989, 你在对机器人说话 帅哥
[12:43] <majormen11989> ubrl: amule还是不错的。不过我主要是习惯了mldoney
[12:43] <ubrl> majormen11989, .. 休息一下 .. 20:46
[12:43] <majormen11989> 尼玛。
[12:44] <pocmon> gebjgd, 终于算是搞了一个解决方法吧
[12:44] <CyrusYzGTt> gebjgd§ 下载机需要
[12:44] <CyrusYzGTt> majormen11989§ 我是 home目录下自己编译和运行，我的方法不适合你
[12:44] <gebjgd> CyrusYzGTt, 自己打包就是了 放home干嘛
[12:45] <pocmon> gebjgd, 编辑sudoer，设置NOPASSWD，而且一定要把这行放在最后，不然被其它设置覆盖，就还是要密码
[12:45] <CyrusYzGTt> gebjgd§ 其中一个home用户专用 mldonkey 下载的东西都在那
[12:45] <pocmon> gebjgd, 你说的那个办法，我在网上查了，还是没有搞明白，按那个来是不行的
[12:46] <gebjgd> pocmon, 必须行
[12:47] <gebjgd> CyrusYzGTt, 和在home下编译运行有毛关系
[12:47] <pocmon> 使用LX的LOGOUT可以，不过与I3WM结合使用注销后会出现LX的界面，与I3wm感觉不太合
[12:47] <majormen11989> CyrusYzGTt: 没用，我页下载了新的编译
[12:47] <majormen11989> CyrusYzGTt: 一样是上不了localhsot
[12:47] <majormen11989> CyrusYzGTt: host
[12:48] <pocmon> gebjgd, 我是说照搬你发的两个加WM启动的命令，再使用REBOOT还是不行，可能与那个地方的安全设置有关
[12:49] <gebjgd> pocmon, 你装了gnomekeyring了么
[12:49] <pocmon> gebjgd, 我的系统里有这个文件
[12:50] <pocmon> gebjgd, 但我用的是ubuntu14.04，不是使用的GNOME，会不会与这个有关
[12:50] <pocmon> gebjgd, 是GNOME-KEYRING
[12:50] <gebjgd> pocmon, 那方法必须行 7台机器表示能用
[12:52] <CyrusYzGTt> gebjgd§ 运行方便，添加新的协议，或者删除不需要的协议
[12:53] <pocmon> gebjgd, ** (polkit-gnome-authentication-agent-1:3970): WARNING **: Couldn't connect to accessibility bus: Failed to connect to socket /tmp/dbus-dLviQEYr0F: 拒绝连接
[12:53] <pocmon> gebjgd, 是不是与这个报错有关
[12:55] <gebjgd> pocmon, http://askubuntu.com/questions/464077/authentication-error-when-trying-to-install-or-uninstall-using-ubuntu-software-c
[12:55] <ubrl> ⇪ t: Authentication error when trying to install or uninstall using Ubuntu Software Center (14.04) - Ask Ubuntu
[12:55] <CyrusYzGTt> majormen11989§ 127.0.0.1:4080
[13:01] <pocmon> gebjgd, 我刚刚看到，这两个包都已经安装了
[13:01] <pocmon> gebjgd, 运行/usr/lib/policykit-1-gnome/polkit-gnome-authentication-agent-1
[13:02] <pocmon> gebjgd, 报错Couldn't connect to accessibility bus: Failed to connect to socket /tmp/dbus-dLviQEYr0F: 拒绝连接
[13:02] <pocmon> gebjgd, 看了下，没有/tmp/dbus-dLviQEYr0
[13:03] <pocmon> gebjgd, 同时还有错误： WARNING **: Unable to register authentication agent: GDBus.Error:org.freedesktop.PolicyKit1.Error.Failed: An authentication agent already exists for the given subject
[13:04] <gebjgd> pocmon, 什么wm？
[13:04] <gebjgd> pocmon, 我这里是openbox
[13:04] <pocmon> pocmon，我机子上有二个，是UBUNTU本身，现在要解决的是I3WM中
[13:05] <pocmon> gebjgd, 你用的是ARCHLINUX，还是UBUNTU
[13:05] <pocmon> arch
[13:06] <pocmon> archlinux有好多地方与UBUntu不一样。像字体这些，在UBUNTU下安装I3WM都不用设置的。
[13:06] <^k^> 取新帖 timeout
[13:06] <pocmon> 我在虚拟机中安装了ARCHLINUX+I3wm
[13:10] <gebjgd> pocmon, debian stable
[13:10] <gebjgd> pocmon, 不用arch 2年了
[13:11] <pocmon> gebjgd, 为什么不用ARCH
[13:11] <gebjgd> pocmon, 垃圾
[13:11] <gebjgd> pocmon, 不稳定
[13:11] <gebjgd> pocmon, 7台机器装arch 除非我闲的蛋疼
[13:11] <pocmon> gebjgd, 呵呵
[13:12] <gebjgd> pocmon, debian stable稳定的要死
[13:16] <pocmon> gebjgd, 我桌面用UB挺好，新不新，旧不旧，不算稳定，但也不差，挺好
[13:17] <gebjgd> pocmon, 你喜欢就好
[13:19] <yunfan> gebjgd: 最近德国人看难民可有异样啊
[13:19] <gebjgd> yunfan, 无异样
[13:19] <gebjgd> yunfan, 爱的死去活来的
[13:20] <gebjgd> yunfan, 和天津人民看党一样的
[13:20] <CyrusYzGTt> debian jessie 路过
[13:56] <^k^> 暂无新帖 讲个笑话吧: http://xiaohua.zol.com.cn/detail1/3068.html 母亲来电 : 一个年轻男子长年在外工作,已经有好几年没和未婚妻见面了,而且近来书信也越来越少。有一天,他突然收到未婚妻发来的一封电报:"无法再等下去了,只好与你父结婚,请原谅,母字。"
[14:27] <jack-zhang> 请教一下这样的问题，我的ubuntu 14.04 lts 系统能正确的从dhcp服务器获取ipv6的地址，但无法ping通默认网关（无论是有线还是无线），但有时它突然间又能工作了，比如现在。但更奇怪的是在我同一台电脑的Win 7 系统的IPv6网络一直运行良好。有什么建议能弄清楚这个现象呢？
[14:30] <gebjgd> jack-zhang, 换路由器
[14:31] <gebjgd> jack-zhang, 路由器太差
[14:32] <yunfan> gebjgd: 呵呵
[14:34] <jack-zhang> 虽然这是一种可能，但我并没有这样的权力去换，并且Windows 的用户一直使用良好，所以除非我能证明路由确实有问题，否则不太可能换。
[14:35] <^k^> 新 启动和引导 • grub引导显示有误，如何修复？请大神们解惑 http://forum.ubuntu.org.cn/viewtopic.php?t=473916 本人电脑是Windows7系统，通过EasyBCD方式硬盘安装了Ubuntu14.04。 当时安装时，由于曾经损坏过引导，所以用windows光盘进行过修复。原来硬盘还有2个小分区，一个100M左右的，另一个
[14:36] <gebjgd> jack-zhang, 我家里都是Linux 只有对一台android设备 那台设备死活连不上网 有的时候能连 换了个好的路由器 问题消失
[14:38] <jack-zhang> 解决问题对于我来说不是最重要的，只是这个问题反复出现，让我很奇怪，我想弄清楚而已。
[14:39] <gebjgd> jack-zhang, 换路由试试看
[14:39] <gebjgd> jack-zhang, 回来告诉我结果
[14:41] <jack-zhang> gebjgd, ,我没有换路由器的权力 不过我可以去其他网络试一下
[14:41] <gebjgd> jack-zhang, 这是好主意
[14:42] <majormen11989> /quit
[14:42] <majormen11989> exit
[14:43] <jack-zhang> 但是这样的话也不能解决为什么windows一直运行良好的疑惑，真是烦人
[14:46] <gebjgd> jack-zhang, windows 给你的假象
[14:46] <gebjgd> jack-zhang, XD
[14:46] <jack-zhang> eeeeeeeee
[14:47] <jack-zhang> 但是在windows下我确实能上网，而ubuntu下不可以， 当然我更愿意相信这是两个系统的侧重不同，而不是linux不好
[14:48] <gebjgd> jack-zhang, 我这里7台Linux表示都能上网
[14:50] <jack-zhang> 我测试过这里有两台路由 一台是备用的，但是两台都会分发地址，会不会是因为linux恰好选择了路由有故障的地址呢？
[14:51] <gebjgd> jack-zhang, 你用的是ubuntu, Ubuntu是问题最多的Linux发行版
[14:53] <jack-zhang> 其实我测试过其他一些发行版，但都一样
[14:53] <gebjgd> jack-zhang, 啥笔记本
[14:53] <jack-zhang> 之前甚至试过去找linux内核的代码看
[14:54] <jack-zhang> 还看过RFC
[14:54] <gebjgd> jack-zhang, 高手 看内核的高手
[14:54] <jack-zhang> 我的是华硕
[14:54] * gebjgd 记住以后不买华硕的本子
[14:54] <jack-zhang> 但是 跟电脑无关，我试了其他电脑
[14:55] <gebjgd> jack-zhang, 路由器问题无疑
[14:57] <onlylove> gebjgd: 华硕怎么惹你了
[14:58] <gebjgd> onlylove, 你笑点太高
[16:37] <alvin_rxg> gebjgd: 要 erfahren 的还是junior？
[16:54] <gebjgd> alvin_rxg, 你会就行
[16:54] <gebjgd> alvin_rxg, 会object c 会c++
[16:55] <alvin_rxg> gebjgd: 再加个apple官方的 cocoa？
[16:55] <alvin_rxg> gebjgd: 说得简单……估计还是要找 erfahrener 的，不太可能要 junior
[16:59] <gebjgd> alvin_rxg, 你如果来就是做retail的mac 客户端
[17:00] <gebjgd> alvin_rxg, 恩那 cocoa是必须的啊
[17:00] <alvin_rxg> gebjgd: 单说做这个东西，没啥问题。估计对我来说，没有实际的经验还是不行
[19:31] <gebjgd> knownbad, 在上班？
[19:31] <knownbad> 要不呢。。。
[19:31] <knownbad> 你女儿近来如何？
[19:31] <gebjgd> knownbad, 很好
[19:31] <gebjgd> knownbad, 多谢挂念
[19:32] <knownbad> 就等着娶她。
[19:32] <knownbad> 考虑加一个吧。
[19:32] <gebjgd> knownbad, 先见过老丈人
[19:32] <gebjgd> knownbad, 快叫
[19:33] <knownbad> 弟媳刚怀了第一胎。
[19:33] <gebjgd> knownbad, 一定不是你的
[19:33] <knownbad> 意义上是，家里的第一个孩子。
[19:34] <gebjgd> knownbad, 不易 重启上网本
[19:34] <knownbad> 比死机。
[19:34] <knownbad> 必死机。
[19:38] <gebjgd> knownbad, 你和你老婆还没动静？
[19:39] <knownbad> 咦，没死机？
[19:40] <knownbad> 德国货就是好。
[19:40] <gebjgd> knownbad, 为什么死机？
[19:40] <gebjgd> knownbad, debian stable不知道什么叫死机
[19:40] <knownbad> 你不是重起机子么？
[19:41] <knownbad> 在vm上死过，忘了怎么解决的但装机后就死。
[19:41] <knownbad> 黑屏BSOD.
[19:41] <gebjgd> knownbad, 是啊 重启x
[19:41] <gebjgd> knownbad, 没遇到过
[19:42] <gebjgd> knownbad, 我这里现在都是debian stable 稳定啊 不用动
[19:48] <gebjgd> knownbad, 莫非你已经投奔win10了？
[19:50] <knownbad> 换了回来，新公司用Lync VoIP所以刚开始不想当出头鸟。 后来测试了在VM上可行就又换了回LMDE。
[19:51] <knownbad> Cinnamon还是好用些。
[19:51] <gebjgd> knownbad, lync voip?
[19:51] <gebjgd> knownbad, Linux上voip太多了
[19:51] <knownbad> MS Lync = Skype.
[19:52] <gebjgd> knownbad, skype在Linux上不是跑的挺好么
[19:52] <knownbad> 以前叫做Office Communicator.
[19:53] <knownbad> 不行，这是内部版本集成T1 dialout.
[19:53] <gebjgd> knownbad, 换公司
[19:54] <knownbad> 没事，就跑个VM就行了。
[19:54] <gebjgd> knownbad, 像你这么有才华的人
[19:54] <gebjgd> knownbad, 还不是抢着要
[19:54] <knownbad> 全公司用的都是VoIP.
[19:54] <knownbad> 我是吹的才华。
[19:55] <gebjgd> knownbad, 我们组有电话 windows的是voip软件
[19:55] <knownbad> 真实里是个菜花。
[19:55] <gebjgd> knownbad, voip电话
[19:56] <knownbad> 差不多吧，基本上就是传统上的意义而已。 现实里没差别，都是VoIP就看怎么去route而已。
[19:57] <gebjgd> knownbad, 所以 可见你们公司还是没钱
[19:57] <gebjgd> knownbad, 有钱还是有解决办法
[19:57] <knownbad> 电话也是VoIP + PoE = 贵。
[19:58] <knownbad> Analog还是便宜但没钱途。
[19:59] <gebjgd> knownbad, 我换网络了 现在是光纤
[19:59] <knownbad> 妈的，显摆。
[20:01] <gebjgd> knownbad, 感觉区别不大
[20:01] <gebjgd> knownbad, 以前3m/s 现在最快才6m/s
[20:03] <knownbad> 其实最后的结局应该是速度会越来越快但找流量收费。
[20:03] <knownbad> Cap速度没什么意义。
[20:04] <gebjgd> knownbad, 什么叫找流量收费
[20:12] <gebjgd> knownbad, lxpanel 0.8.1支持多屏幕
[20:19] <alvin_rxg> gebjgd: 还是回国吧…… Hannover 的球赛取消了，发现了炸弹……
[20:19] <gebjgd> alvin_rxg, 什么回国？
[20:20] <gebjgd> alvin_rxg, 你不打算在这里找工作了？
[20:20] <knownbad> 按照流量收费。
[20:20] <gebjgd> knownbad, 屁 包月
[20:20] <alvin_rxg> gebjgd: Hannover 球赛取消了，恐怖分子放了个炸弹在球场外
[20:20] <knownbad> 说的是以后的趋势。
[20:20] <knownbad> 你用LXDE?
[20:20] <gebjgd> alvin_rxg, 我知道 我是说你准备回国了？
[20:20] <gebjgd> knownbad, 是啊
[20:21] <alvin_rxg> 再看，就是怕死
[20:21] <gebjgd> alvin_rxg, 你不准备继续找了？
[20:21] <alvin_rxg> gebjgd: 继续找啊，打算两手准备现在，随时情况不好了，随时跑
[20:24] <knownbad> 机上也有炸弹，船上也可能有。 骑单车应该安全。
[20:29] <gebjgd> alvin_rxg, 别怕 别去人多的地方就好了
[20:29] <alvin_rxg> gebjgd: 嗯，后天去 Passau 这个人少的地方
[20:36] <gebjgd> knownbad, 美国也快了
[20:36] <gebjgd> knownbad, alvin_rxg 看来还是天朝安全
[20:37] <alvin_rxg> 妈蛋谁会想到德国也不安全啦。。。之前还以为今天汉诺威没事儿
[20:37] <gebjgd> alvin_rxg, 现在是哪里都不会太平
[20:37] <alvin_rxg> gebjgd: 球场两个炸弹，火车站发现一个可疑
[20:38] <alvin_rxg> gebjgd: 球场离我这儿就三公里。。
[20:38] <gebjgd> alvin_rxg, 哈哈
[20:38] <gebjgd> alvin_rxg, 伊斯兰国崛起了 哪里都会不太平
[20:39] <alvin_rxg> gebjgd: 新疆不是刚干掉一些恐怖分子嘛？
[20:39] <gebjgd> alvin_rxg, 是么
[20:40] <gebjgd> alvin_rxg, 伊斯兰国现在是到处树敌
[20:40] <alvin_rxg> gebjgd: 支持法国！我先回家
[20:40] <gebjgd> alvin_rxg, 跑了？
[20:40] <gebjgd> alvin_rxg, 不待了？
[20:40] <alvin_rxg> gebjgd: 看接下来的情况，暂时还稳定。。。
[20:41] <knownbad> 没什么安全不安全的，该你走时谁也逃不掉。
[20:41] <gebjgd> knownbad, 没错
[20:41] <gebjgd> alvin_rxg, 天朝其实够呛 睡着睡着 爆炸了
[20:41] <gebjgd> alvin_rxg, 比如天津
[20:42] <gebjgd> alvin_rxg, 不过是被自己人误伤的
[20:42] <knownbad> 中国也说不定。 心里觉得迟早的事。 自古以来的朝代替换不就好似吗。
[20:42] <alvin_rxg> 明天买机票回火星 :-/
[20:43] <gebjgd> alvin_rxg, 我看行
[20:43] <alvin_rxg> gebjgd: 好像现在有单程票卖
[20:44] <knownbad> 还可以配对呢。
[20:45] <knownbad> 但不知道是否有选择男伴还是女伴？
[20:50] <gebjgd> knownbad, 你又想出轨了？
[20:50] <knownbad> 火星可以考虑。
[20:51] <knownbad> 就是古代的升天。
[20:51] <gebjgd> knownbad, 让我们帮你
[20:53] <gebjgd> knownbad, 之后把你老婆送给光光
[20:53] <knownbad> 可以，一切都已放下。
[20:53] <gebjgd> alvin_rxg, 这便宜你要不要
[20:53] <gebjgd> knownbad, 你老婆多大
[20:54] <knownbad> 136 lbs.
[20:55] <gebjgd> knownbad, 年龄
[20:55] <knownbad> 她自称18岁。
[20:56] <gebjgd> knownbad, 别 实际年龄
[20:56] <gebjgd> alvin_rxg, 这便宜你要不要
[20:56] <knownbad> 她不让说。
[20:56] <gebjgd> 38
[20:56] <knownbad> 说是国家秘密。
[20:56] <gebjgd> knownbad, 对么
[20:57] <knownbad> 我是守法公民不谈论国家秘密。
[20:58] <gebjgd> knownbad, 哪国的机密？
[21:03] <knownbad> 这也是机密。
[21:04] <knownbad> 美国的爱国者法案就是这么他妈写的。
[21:05] <knownbad> 直接就说是忽悠老百姓法案得了。
[21:24] <gebjgd> 睡觉去
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[07:50] <dholbach> good morning
[11:53] <hasselmm> zbenjamin: as i just saw you on qtc-devel, is there a branch of the ubuntu plugin that works with qtc master? how about moving the entire plugin to qtc master to offload api-breakage burden to tobias, eike and friends?
[11:53] <hasselmm> basically everyone does that
[11:53] <zbenjamin> hasselmm: not atm, 3.5.x is what we build against atm
[11:54] <zbenjamin> hasselmm: we thought about upstreaming but we did not get to the point yet. At least all our patches to the other plugins are upstreamed
[11:55] <hasselmm> zbenjamin: yeah, 1000 thanks for your cmake work, btw
[11:55] <zbenjamin> or 99% of them , except some small if (device == ubuntuDevice)
[11:55] <hasselmm> makes my daily routine so much easier
[11:55] <zbenjamin> hasselmm: yw, i had some hard time to get it in ;)
[11:55] <hasselmm> (ok, not for the current project. but usually)
[11:55] <hasselmm> still 1000 thanks to everyone involved
[11:56] <zbenjamin> hasselmm: one feature i had to remove btw, the run cmake dialog is back again (but since you use master you know that already)
[11:56] <hasselmm> zbenjamin: well, at least it became better
[11:57] <zbenjamin> hasselmm: yeah imho the cmake per Kit feature is pretty nice and makes sense
[12:02] <zbenjamin> hasselmm: problem is i only can use the QtC in the most recent ubuntu development branch
[12:02] <zbenjamin> so keeping up with master is not on the daily agenda
[12:03] <zbenjamin> but maybe i'll start porting to the current development version soon
[12:03] <hasselmm> yeah, qtc with its permanent api changes is a pain to work with
[12:03] <zbenjamin> yes
[12:03] <hasselmm> see, i also just bug you, because ubuntu-sdk killed all my configured kits
[12:11] <zbenjamin> hasselmm: -settingspath ftw
[12:12] <zbenjamin> hasselmm: qtcreator -settingspath ~/.config/QtCMaster
[12:16] <hasselmm> zbenjamin: indeed! great idea!
[12:16] <zbenjamin> hasselmm: :D
[12:16] <hasselmm> thank you
[15:54] <timp> ahayzen: I have a fix for bug 1514143
[15:55] <timp> ahayzen: see https://code.launchpad.net/~tpeeters/ubuntu-ui-toolkit/lessHeaderDisabling/+merge/277713
[15:55] <timp> please test and comment if it works for you :) (I think it does).
[15:55] <ahayzen> timp, awesome thanks, i'll have a look when i have a moment, thanks for the quick patch :-)
[16:30] <cwayne1> popey: how many beers and/or cat pictures would I owe you to let my latest version of activity tracker through? :) For some reason it has a warning for vcs files, even though when I run click-review locally, it says it's fine...
[16:30] <popey> There are not enough cat pictures.
[16:31] <popey> cwayne1, done
[16:31] <cwayne1> popey: <3
[16:31] <popey> cwayne1, seems you are not alone, davmor2 is getting that too
[16:31] <popey> dholbach, has something recently changed in the review tools? it's barfing for some people when there's no vcs files in the click package
[16:34] <dholbach> popey, have an error message
[16:34] <dholbach> and yes, it changes now and then :)
[16:34] <popey> found VCS files in package: .excludes lint_vcs_files
[16:34] <popey> why does it care if there's an ".excludes" file in there?
[16:34] <popey> I mean, it's only a warning, granted :)
[16:35] <dholbach> it's a valid point
[16:35] <cwayne1> should a warning be enough to stop something from being published?
[16:35] <dholbach> consider you're working on a closed source app
[16:35] <dholbach> I don't think I implemented the check, but I think it's fair enough
[16:35] <dholbach> and it can potentially be huge
[16:36] <dholbach> I think it's good to make the uploader aware
[16:36] <popey> it stops the line in the store
[16:36] <popey> forces manual review
[16:37] <dholbach> the check has been in place since 2013
[16:37] <dholbach> 2013-08-20
[16:38] <popey> hehe
[16:38] <cwayne1> then how did it just start flagging it? i didnt change anything in my click pkg and that check used to always pass
[16:39] <dholbach> cwayne1, some files were added to the vcs_files list in the past few weeks
[16:39] <cwayne1> ah, that's it then
[16:39] <dholbach> the check didn't change, but some files were added (r533 in lp:click-reviewers-tools)
[16:39] <cwayne1> should click build not inlcude them by default then?
[16:40] <dholbach> I'm not sure I understand the question
[16:40] <dholbach> you mean... "click build" should run "click-review" and complain?
[16:40] <popey> click build shouldn't assume what files you should/shouldn't have in your source dir
[16:40] <popey> oh, yes.
[16:40] <cwayne1> yeah
[16:40] <dholbach> that's what it does if you have it installed
[16:40] <popey> i do
[16:41] <popey> and it passed davmor2's app if I run it manually
[16:41] <popey> but fails (warning) in store
[16:41] <cwayne1> yeah, same here
[16:41] <popey> and cwayne1's :)
[16:41] <dholbach> it does: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/13314634/
[16:41] <cwayne1> popey: btw, my cat tax: https://www.thedodo.com/hoodie-with-pouch-for-pets-1154767753.html?xrs=RebelMouse_fb
[16:42] <cwayne1> dholbach: yeah, but click review is passing my app locally, but got an error on the store
[16:42] <popey> yeah, but they pass locally, no warnings issued, but fail after uploading.
[16:42] <popey> yeah, that :)
[16:42] <popey> 0.35-0~532~ubuntu15.10.1 is the version of click-review-tools I'm on
[16:43] <popey> which is some 15 merges out from trunk..
[16:44] <dholbach> so you're on wily and have all updates applied - do you have the SDK ppa enabled?
[16:46] <davmor2> dholbach: pfff wily that's so old hat, I'm on xenial
[16:47] <dholbach> davmor2, I'm on xenial too
[16:47] <dholbach> ?
[16:47] <davmor2> dholbach: no to the ppa I am running the sdk from repos
[16:48] <dholbach> https://developer.ubuntu.com/en/start/ubuntu-sdk/installing-the-sdk/
[16:48] <dholbach> it's not my decision, but we strongly recommend that folks use the ppa
[16:48] <dholbach> so the sdk and its tools are not updated in the distro
[16:49] <popey> i am on xenial
[16:51] <dholbach> right... what about the ppa?
[16:51] <dholbach> so yeah... if you feel that the vcs check should be dropped, please file a bug - I think it'll need some more discussion with Jamie and others
[16:53] * popey re-enables the ppa which got disabled on upgrade to xenial
[16:53] * popey expects his sdk to break if he updates
[16:56] <popey> \o/ successfully fails on my machine now davmor2 :)
[16:56] <popey> thanks dholbach
[16:57] <davmor2> popey: updating mine
[17:00] <dholbach> brilliant ;-)
[17:01] <davmor2> dholbach, popey: now if I run click-review on my .2 I get 2 errors about debug in apparmor that I don't have in the file and arch all it doesn't like
[17:15] <popey> davmor2, odd
[17:18] <davmor2> and no mention of the vcs
[17:22] <davmor2> popey: http://paste.ubuntu.com/13315080/
[17:23] <davmor2> I might just destroy this an try again with a .3 version
[17:23] <popey> how did you build the click?
[17:23] <davmor2> popey: click build . like it tells you in the Readme file
[17:24] <popey> odd
[17:24] <davmor2> popey: also the readme say 128x128 for icon and it is 256x256 :(
[17:24] <popey> indeed
[17:24] <popey> file abug
[17:24] <popey> :)
[17:25] <davmor2> popey: will do when I finish tearing my hair out with bluez5 that was supposed to be so easy because we had already tested the hell out of it /me shakes his fist
[17:34] <davmor2> removed the .excludes file and now it passes which begs the question why does the sdk create it
[17:37] <davmor2> meh and I forgot to change the url now D'oh
[17:52] <davmor2> yay and now it works \o/
[17:58] <davmor2> cwayne1: so apparently just remove the .excludes file from the dir and any other .dotfiles and the it builds and everything :)
[19:39] * mcphail wonders how many apps go unpublished because the dev cannot think of or make a decent icon? Bah.
[20:08] <davmor2> popey: feel free to confirm https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-sdk-ide/+bug/1517196
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2015-11-17-#ubuntu-devel
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[05:42] <pitti> Good morning
[05:44] <pitti> apw: hm, https://www.debian.org/doc/debian-policy/ch-relationships.html says that they are supported with !
[07:50] <dholbach> good morning
[07:50] <dholbach> mvo_, do you know where http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/13309322/ could be coming from?
[07:52] <mvo_> dholbach: hm, thats usually if the wily.tar.gz and wily.tar.gz.gpg are out of sync, could you try again as user without the sudo and see if that makes a difference?
[07:56] <dholbach> mvo_, now it seems to work - it didn't work in update-manager earlier, which is why I switched to do-release-upgrade
[08:03] <mvo_> dholbach: I suspect network/proxy or similar effects :/
[08:03] <dholbach> ok, thanks
[09:20] <apw> pitti, right they are normaly, it seems that the regexp that extracts them for tests/control doesn't expect !
[09:26] <popey> pitti, got my cpu spinning on apport with caja again, what debugging should I do?
[09:29] <popey> pitti, http://paste.ubuntu.com/13310423/ is a few moments of strace from apport
[09:36] <pitti> apw: oh! that does sound something that can be fixed easily
[09:39] <pitti> read(4, "651-475c-811c-ce2' failed: No su"..., 4096) = 4096
[09:39] <pitti> popey: that looks interesting
[09:39] <pitti> popey: can you look into /proc/<apport pid>/fd/4 what this points to?
[09:39] <pitti> read(4, "glibtop(c=4170): [WARNING] statv"..., 4096) = 4096
[09:39] <pitti> that too
[09:40] <pitti> that could be a d-bus call
[09:40] <popey> lr-x------ 1 root root 64 Nov 17 09:40 /proc/22274/fd/4 -> /var/crash/_usr_bin_caja.1000.crash
[09:40] <pitti> uh, wth
[09:40] <popey> -rw-r----- 1 alan whoopsie 67466388 Nov 10 14:50 /var/crash/_usr_bin_caja.1000.crash
[09:40] <popey> from days ago
[09:41] <pitti> ok, this is apparently from reading the previous file to determine the CrashCounter: value
[09:42] <popey> would you like me to file a bug against apport perhaps?
[09:42] <pitti> popey: yes, easier for tracking, that doesn't seem a trivial issue
[09:42] <popey> okay, any additional logs I should attach?
[09:42] <pitti> popey: is it still looping over reading from fd 4 if you attach strace now?
[09:43] <pitti> popey: please don't kill it yet, I'd first like you to run some experiments which would reproduce this
[09:43] <popey> okay. It's making my laptop hard to use though, just so you know :)
[09:44] <popey> http://paste.ubuntu.com/13310583/ is the latest from the strace log
[09:44] <pitti> $ python3 -c 'import apport.fileutils; print(apport.fileutils.get_recent_crashes(open("/var/crash/_usr_bin_caja.1000.crash", "rb")))'
[09:44] <pitti> popey: ok, so still looping over reading the old file; what does that ^ say for you and how long does it take?
[09:45] <popey> pitti, that doesn't feel like it's going to finish any time soon :) 24328 alan 20 0 78124 30796 10508 R 89.8 0.2 0:26.35 python3
[09:45] <popey> that's now eating a core too
[09:45] <pitti> popey: oh, good! so that reproduces it
[09:45] <popey> :)
[09:45] <pitti> popey: so you can kill apport
[09:45] <popey> yay
[09:46] <popey> and the python3 thing?
[09:46] <pitti> popey: can you scp that .crash to people.u.c., or just attach it to the bug (if you are reasonably sure it doesn't have s3kr1t stuff in it), so that I can try here?
[09:46] <popey> sure
[09:46] <pitti> popey: you can kill it too
[09:46] <pitti> popey: but please try again if it still hangs after you killed apport, to be sure
[09:47] <popey> pitti, it does
[09:47] <pitti> popey: cool; so we have a much easier handle on this
[09:47] <pitti> popey: if I can reproduce it with your .crash file, then you are entirely off the hook :)
[09:47] <popey> woot!
[09:47] <popey> uploading now
[09:49] <popey> pitti, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/apport/+bug/1516947 is the bug for it, link to crash in the bug
[09:50] <popey> thanks for the help!
[09:52] <Mirv_> heh
[09:52] <Mirv_> @pilot out
[09:52] <Mirv> @pilot out
[09:52] <pitti> popey: reproduces fine, thanks!
[09:52] <popey> super
[09:52] <Mirv> (not really pilotting for 27h)
[11:04] <halfie> hi, the .deb packages seem to be missing from http://kernel.ubuntu.com/~kernel-ppa/mainline/v4.4-rc1-wily/
[11:04] <halfie> which is a bit unusual
[14:01] <cyphermox> good morning!
[14:03] <mdeslaur> hi cyphermox!
[14:04] <seb128> hey cyphermox mdeslaur
[14:04] <tsg> micahg: checking in to see if you would have a few to take a look at bug 1516259 and bug 1515710 today. Thanks!
[14:04] <mdeslaur> hi seb128
[14:14] <LocutusOfBorg1> hi, who is patch piloting today? I have a quick and easy SRU to ask you :p
[14:15] * LocutusOfBorg1 is joking, there is no easy SRU, but a really difficult one
[14:15] <LocutusOfBorg1> sometning like this 2729 files changed, 779602 insertions(+), 142675 deletions(-)
[14:18] <nils17> perhaps anybody knows it in this channel: where can I disable the warning "granted permissions without asking for password" when I execute e.g. gksudo nautilus ?
[14:28] <seb128> LocutusOfBorg1, you can try barry or TheMuso (though he's probably eod for a while) or bdmurray
[14:42] <barry> LocutusOfBorg1: i'm around, but have a couple of other things on the stack atm. give me some info and i'll try to take a look
[14:43] <LocutusOfBorg1> barry, I'm doing test builds right now
[14:43] <LocutusOfBorg1> TLTR: I need to upgrade virtualbox-precise as SRU from 4.1.12 to 4.1.44
[14:43] <LocutusOfBorg1> and trusty from 4.3.26 to 4.3.34
[14:44] <LocutusOfBorg1> I already did the same for debian, with a great success
[14:44] <LocutusOfBorg1> and I'm starting from that version to do the same for ubuntu
[14:44] <LocutusOfBorg1> (also wily needs fixing, but we can just SRU with the xenial version)
[14:44] <barry> LocutusOfBorg1: ok. i'm not a virtualbox expert, so i might defer, but i'll take a look when you're ready
[14:45] <LocutusOfBorg1> the rationale is many CVE fixes, stability fixes, and kernel building again
[14:45] <LocutusOfBorg1> thanks
[14:45] <LocutusOfBorg1> I'm going to open a bug to keep track of patches if it is ok for you
[14:45] <barry> yes please!
[15:36] <rbasak> pitti: please could you see bug 1511899? What's the logic for where /bin/running-in-container should belong now? If in init-system-helpers, then do we just need a versioned breaks/replaces for upstart?
[15:37] <rbasak> It seems upstart 1.13.2-0ubuntu17 doesn't ship /bin/running-in-container.
[15:39] <pitti> rbasak: hallyn moved it to i-s-h in bug 1442228; can't say I'm happy about this as it's a permanent delta, but that's the status quo
[15:40] <pitti> rbasak: so I guess i-s-h needs to B/R: upstart (<< 1.13.2-0ubuntu13)
[15:40] <rbasak> pitti: OK so I'll just upload a Breaks/Replaces then?
[15:40] <rbasak> Ack.
[15:41] <pitti> rbasak: in the long run I'd rather get rid of it
[15:42] <hallyn> i did what?
[15:43] <rbasak> hallyn: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/init-system-helpers/1.22ubuntu10
[15:43] <rbasak> hallyn: a necessary Breaks/Replaces has gone missing since, though I see that you did upload one originally.
[15:43] <rbasak> Maybe some move between upstart and upstart-bin?
[15:43] <hallyn> hm
[15:45] <pitti> could also be a merge error in i-s-h
[15:45] <pitti> (much more likely, as the B+R need to go there, not into upstart)
[15:46] <rbasak> Yeah looks like a merge error.
[15:46] <hallyn> woulda preferred systemd depend on upstart? :)
[15:46] <rbasak> I'll upload a fix.
[15:48] <hallyn> where do we need running-in-containers these days? maybe it's too early for me to thinkabout this.
[15:54] <pitti> probably only an archive grep can tell
[15:54] <pitti> mostly in LXC, but a few otehr packages might have picked it up too
[15:54] <gQuigs> is udisks2 something we plan to support for a long time?
[15:55] <seb128> gQuigs, is it being replaced?
[15:55] <seb128> but I guess it any case even if it is that's not for the coming LTS
[15:55] <gQuigs> seb128: trying to convince adobe to move off of hal, and want to make sure it's not going anywhere
[15:55] <seb128> so yeah, we probably keep to support udisks2 for a while
[15:55] <pitti> the only potential replacement today is storaged, but we haven't looked at that so far, and it's D-BUS API compatible (it says, anyway)
[15:56] <gQuigs> awesome, so I'll recommend they move to use the D-BUS api
[15:56] <gQuigs> thanks!
[16:28] <didrocks> ximion: hey! after Laney poke me about some appstream-dep11, I did fix it and create a PR: https://github.com/ximion/appstream-dep11/pull/1
[16:29] <didrocks> ximion: I tried to summarize my findings as much as possible on the description, do not hesitate to tell me if you think I should do any modification
[16:41] <ximion> didrocks: neat, thank you!
[16:42] <ximion> using setuptools properly was on my todo-list even, but admittedly at a very low position ;-)
[16:42] <Laney> I tried to install a checkout in a virtualenv and it didn't work
[16:42] <Laney> so invoked the didrocks :P
[16:43] <didrocks> ximion: yw! Indeed, I guess those kind of crashs are the only way to motivate changing things that basically worked :p
[16:44] <didrocks> ximion: oh, I didn't write it on the PR, but I reinstalled on our machine a new blank virtualenv with my branch, installed it there and did a successful run
[16:45] <ximion> didrocks: that's a pretty interesting bug you've found there - I wasn't aware that this couls happen at all...
[16:46] <didrocks> ximion: I wasn't aware about that __spec__ + multiprocessing either before… today :p
[16:46] <ximion> btw, initially the python3-dep11 module was meant to be used by Python applications reading DEP-11 data, so there initially was a split between all the database/building stuff in scripts/ and read-only stuff in dep11. That just made things harder anyway, so the change is fine
[16:47] <ximion> (and actually, reading DEP-11 in Python is as simple as safe_load'ing a YAML file)
[16:47] <ximion> didrocks: multiprocessing leads to some very weird and hard-to-debug issues...
[16:47] <didrocks> yeah, that was my feeling when reading the code
[16:48] <didrocks> ximion: I'm using futures module now, not sure if there is a constant pool functionality though
[16:48] <ximion> for example, one that I still haven't tracked down, opening a LMDB database in the main process and then starting multiprocessing doesn't work - the child processes simply return without an error, and that's it
[16:48] <ximion> so we now close the db and reopen it everytime :-/
[16:48] <didrocks> (but it's quite nice for ThreadPoolExecutor and ProcessPool)
[16:49] <didrocks> urgh, yeah, that's why it's quite slow I guess
[16:49] <didrocks> that was your comment on calling "fork_server", I saw this
[16:52] <ximion> that even was a different story at first, involving an issue with apt_pkg, which is now fixed...
[16:53] <ximion> the code was fast once, but in order to not double-process data from different suites, we unfortunately need to give the generator access to the database. Which results in better data and increased speed
[16:54] <ximion> I am not happy with how that thing looks, especially the icon-searching code is insane - but it's working well now
[16:54] <ximion> (and a proper fix would be to enforce stricter icon-naming and placement for applications, which won't happen anytime soon)
[16:55] <didrocks> ximion: yeah, we had a similar issue with ubuntu-software-center as far as I know, I guess you have a similar insane icon-naming search path :/
[16:55] <Laney> I think we're going to have to fix humanity
[16:57] <didrocks> (I guess Laney is talking about the theme) ;)
[16:57] <didrocks> the meaning will be harder to fix :p
[16:57] <didrocks> other*
[16:57] * seb128 votes for Laney
[16:58] <ximion> didrocks: mvo told me that at Debconf, made me feel a bit better - I still feel a bit guilty for sending my GSoC student through that ^^
[16:59] <ximion> at least since the "appstreamcli validate-tree" command is used by some upstreams, they all started to name their .desktop files and MetaInfo files corectly and added missing tags \o/
[17:16] <sergiusens> cyphermox, hey, random question, if I apply for PPU no, do I become an ubuntu member or is that a separate process?
[17:18] <cyphermox> sergiusens: you should mention in your application that you want to apply for ubuntu member too, but it's documented as being granted at the same time.
[17:20] <sergiusens> cyphermox, great; last question, can I reuse an application or should start from scratch?
[17:20] <cyphermox> sergiusens: fwiw it's a discussion we're having : https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/devel-permissions/2015-August/000815.html
[17:20] <cyphermox> sergiusens: if you already have an application wiki page done, by all means feel free to reuse it ;)
[17:21] <sergiusens> cyphermox, I do, from my previous PPU request :-) (which at the time thought included Ubuntu Membership) ;-)
[17:21] <sergiusens> cyphermox, thank you
[17:48] <rbasak> slangasek: could you advise on bug 1507151 please? Is the appropriate fix just to call insserv from sysv-rc.postinst with a hardcoded path, or should we drop or alter the insserv delta?
[18:03] <LocutusOfBorg1> barry, lp: #1517161
[18:03] <LocutusOfBorg1> :)
[18:04] <LocutusOfBorg1> BTW can anybody please sponsor an easy backport? https://bugs.launchpad.net/wily-backports/+bug/1512982
[18:04] <LocutusOfBorg1> upstream is bothering me about it, because of the online game features
[18:04] <LocutusOfBorg1> (users are asking upstream to update, and upstream is asking me to do it)
[18:04] <LocutusOfBorg1> and I'm asking you :p
[18:04] <barry> LocutusOfBorg1: okay, i opened a tab. no promises - i seem to be just getting swamped :/
[18:05] <LocutusOfBorg1> barry, no problem :)
[18:06] <LocutusOfBorg1> please consider that sponsoring the upload will fix at least 200 bugs
[18:06] <LocutusOfBorg1> :D
[19:46] <slangasek> rbasak: you are describing a different bug than what was reported in bug #1507151. The submitter's system apparently had no trouble locating insserv?
[19:48] <slangasek> rbasak: oh - no, I see, the maintainer script gives a generic error and the real error is in the log. ok. Yes, the postinst already does "Make sure insserv is in the path", so it just needs /usr/lib/insserv to be part of that path, I think
[19:50] <smoser> hey...
[19:51] <smoser> i have a curtin testcase that fails sometimes
[19:51] <smoser> whathapens is that it ends up not powering off the system even though poweroff was called.
[19:51] <smoser> wondering how i'd get more data out of that.
[19:52] <smoser> cloud-inti invokes shutdown -P now
[19:52] <smoser> and then system just doesnt seem to go down
[19:54] <slangasek> smoser: and you say this is intermittent?
[19:55] <smoser> seemingly
[19:55] <slangasek> I'm not sure what systemd debugging options are available on shutdown
[19:56] <slangasek> smoser: do you get the kernel's "powering off" message at the end?
[19:56] <smoser> no.
[19:57] <smoser> itll finish like http://paste.ubuntu.com/13316912/
[19:57] <slangasek> hmm
[19:58] <smoser> the cloud-init message is after it has invoked shutdown (and it has received SIGTERM after having done so)
[19:58] <slangasek> what's the kernel commandline? is ttyS0 the only console?
[19:58] <smoser> [ 0.000000] Kernel command line: BOOT_IMAGE=/boot/vmlinuz-3.19.0-33-generic root=UUID=ef812a22-0d30-4d05-b0ba-8a46c02777f2 ro console=ttyS0 luks=no nomdmonddf nomdmonisw
[19:59] <smoser> heres a very verbose log http://paste.ubuntu.com/13317017/
[20:00] <slangasek> seb128: I see you synced fop, which brought in two new build-dependencies not in main; are you planning to do the MIRs for these?
[20:01] <seb128> slangasek, I've that somewhere on my todolist but rather low, feel free to steal it from me if you want ;-)
[20:01] <Unit193> slangasek: Did you get a chance to re-review the MPs after the fix?
[20:02] <slangasek> smoser: well, the verbosity we need here is from the kernel+init, which is still lacking; I think you need to get systemd logging more verbosely to console, which I don't know how to do offhand - pitti would of course know if he's around
[20:03] <slangasek> seb128: I don't want to do them, I want the people causing the mismatches to follow through ;P
[20:04] <smoser> systemd.log_target=kmsg systemd.log_level=debug maybe
[20:04] <smoser> i'll try
[20:04] <slangasek> Unit193: hi, sorry can you give me the pointer to the MPs again?
[20:04] <seb128> slangasek, right, I sort of agree, though technically I just put back in sync since the delta was good to drop the new version would have come through autosync then without me :p
[20:05] <slangasek> Unit193: I don't remember seeing new emails, so either the MPs weren't 'resubmit'ted or I missed the mails somehow, sorry
[20:05] <seb128> slangasek, speaking about following through, do you know if doko is around? unsure what to do with packagekit in xenial-proposed, it seems there is no concrete plan to deal with it in a reasonable timeframe and it's going to block other things
[20:05] <Unit193> slangasek: https://code.launchpad.net/~unit193/ubuntu-cdimage/xubuntu-core/+merge/268167
[20:06] <slangasek> seb128: I haven't spoken to doko today; but I don't think doko's packagekit merge implies any kind of committment to follow through on the issues you outlined. Maybe we should kick that back out of xenial-proposed?
[20:06] <slangasek> Unit193: cheers, queued for looking at this afternoon
[20:06] <seb128> slangasek, yeah, that's what I was going to do, I just wanted to hear back from doko first
[20:06] <Unit193> Great, thanks.
[20:08] <nagromlt> is there a good channel for ubuntu support?
[20:08] <Unit193> nagromlt: #ubuntu is for support.
[20:08] <nagromlt> thx
[20:40] <tsg> doko: any ideas on who could help with https://bugs.launchpad.net/trusty-backports/+bug/1515710
[21:22] <jetsaredim> pitti: any comments on a workaround for the following bug?
[21:22] <jetsaredim> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/1491658
[21:23] <Unit193> jetsaredim: What's the bug?
[21:23] <sarnold> pitti: (I suggested jetsaredim head here and ask you about it, it feels funny to see systemd require kdbus moments after fedora yanked kdbus from the distro -- https://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/devel/2015-October/216235.html )
[21:24] <Unit193> sarnold: It's not so much that systemd requires it, but it tries to load it if it exists and thus gives output if it doesn't. It works like it always has. If you want, you can try the kdbus-dkms package (from Debian experimental only, IIRC.)
[21:24] <sarnold> Unit193: oh, is -that- it? just a silly informational message?
[21:25] <jetsaredim> the system won't boot past that
[21:25] <Unit193> sarnold: It's insignificant unless you have kdbus-dkms, pretty much.
[21:26] <Unit193> jetsaredim: Maybe, but that's not the issue. You'll see that on any wily boot. [ 8.683505] systemd[1]: Failed to insert module 'kdbus': Function not implemented here locally.
[21:26] <jetsaredim> Unit193: other way around i think
[21:26] <jetsaredim> hmm
[21:26] <Unit193> jetsaredim: Nah, if you have kdbus-dkms, you likely want it loaded. Otherwise just ignore it.
[21:26] <jetsaredim> maybe i grabbed the wrong error line
[21:27] <Unit193> (And FWIW, I personally wouldn't recommend kdbus.)
[21:27] <jetsaredim> just noticed the last line before the systemd freeze message is something about mtab not being a symlink
[21:27] <jetsaredim> I certainly didn't go out of my way to set up kdbus
[21:27] <Unit193> That's the issue, and was a known Xenial bug.
[21:28] <Unit193> LP 1511376
[21:28] * Unit193 passes it back to sarnold.
[21:28] <jetsaredim> hm
[21:28] <jetsaredim> ok
[21:28] <jetsaredim> i'll give that a rty
[21:28] <jetsaredim> *try
[21:28] <jetsaredim> even
[21:28] <sarnold> Unit193: many thanks :)
[21:29] <jetsaredim> sorry for the confusion
[21:29] <Unit193> sarnold: Sure, glad I was actually able to help you!
[21:29] <sarnold> pitti: aha, nevermind, Unit193 covered it nicely, suggested 1511376 is the cause of the problem :)
[21:30] <smoser> slangasek, http://paste.ubuntu.com/13318228/
[21:30] <smoser> theres a 15M pastebin there for you.
[21:30] <jetsaredim> so, small-ish?
[21:31] <smoser> jetsaredim, yeah.
[21:31] <jetsaredim> seems like the fix is - boot to recovery then create link and then init 2?
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[08:26] <darkblue> Anyone here?
[08:27] <darkblue> I'm trying to install 14.04.3 from a dvd but the gui has frozen and the dvd has been churning away for houre...
[08:27] <darkblue> *hours
[08:32] <darkblue> I'm trying to install 14.04.3 from a dvd but the gui has frozen and the dvd has been churning away for hours
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[17:17] <barna> Licença gentes, alguem sabe e/ou tem contato de quem mantem o site ubuntu-br.org ??
[17:18] <barna> la esta para download o ubuntu 14.10 q foi descontinuado, muitos novos usuarios tendo problemas por não conhecerem/saberem dos tempos de lançamento e manutenção das versão.
[17:26] <Pici> barna: Desculpe, esta é Traduz Google: Eu acho que vi um pedido para uma mudança site em #ubuntu-community-team há algum tempo. Você pode querer pedir-lhes para uma atualização.
[17:27] <Pici> English: I think I saw a request for a website change in #ubuntu-community-team some time ago. You may want to ask them for an update.
[17:34] <barna> ok thanks Pici
[17:49] <hggdh> Pici: this is an on-going saga... ubuntu-br.org still announces 14.10 as the newest. I shook the tree a bit, to find out who could deal with it
[17:49] <hggdh> Pici: found someone, finally, about 2 weeks ago. Still nothing... so I gave up.
[17:50] <k1l> well, releases.ubuntu.com did announce 14.10 as still supported some time back. took some re adressing on the bug untill someone was found who actually could remove that
[21:59] <valorie> is this eol day for 14.10 or something?
[21:59] <valorie> !eol
[21:59] <k1l> valorie: it was in july
[21:59] <Unit193> valorie: IMO, 15.04 is already EOL'd. :P
[22:00] <valorie> oh good, that's when I removed it from my torrent seeds
[22:00] <k1l> its just that they shutdown the 14.10 repo some weeks ago which makes people get to know they need to do something asap
[22:00] <valorie> ah, light dawns
[22:00] <valorie> they put a stake in it
[22:01] <valorie> 15.04 eols in January 2016
[22:01] <valorie> according to the /Releases page
[22:01] <Pici> yep
[22:02] <valorie> I've seen a few people say that it's already ended, but I wasn't there to give the link
[22:03] <bazhang> is wubi still on the latest iso
[22:15] <valorie> oh good lord
[22:16] <valorie> I hope not
[22:16] <Myrtti> I thought it was dropped eons ago
[22:16] <k1l> informations vary
[22:18] <valorie> it stopped *working* eons ago
[22:19] <valorie> I found mention of it on some manifest not too long ago however
[22:20] <Jordan_U> My opinion on the situation is in !wubi. I am now curious why a wubi.exe is still included though. Maybe (hopefully) it's just to automate booting the machine from DVD/USB to install normally?
[22:22] <ikonia> has anyone considered raising a bug ?
[22:22] <ikonia> eg: why is wubi included on live media
[22:22] <valorie> !wubi
[22:22] <valorie> good, ubottu
[22:23] <valorie> ikonia: I don't believe we include it on kubuntu images
[22:26] <valorie> checking the manifest: nope
[22:26] <genii> Wubi is evilness incarnate
[22:27] <valorie> http://releases.ubuntu.com/15.10/ubuntu-15.10-desktop-amd64.manifest < wubi not listed
[22:27] <valorie> I checked kub. first, also not there
[22:27] <valorie> the evil has been expunged, at long last
[22:28] <Jordan_U> valorie: That's not a list of files included in the iso.
[22:29] <valorie> ah, just packagelist?
[22:30] <valorie> !info wubi
[22:30] <valorie> I knew that, ubottu
[22:31] <valorie> however I've forgotten how to find files
[22:34] <genii> The content of http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/wubi/current/ would seem to indicate that Raring was the last release to come with it
[22:34] <bazhang> thank goodness
[22:36] <hggdh> Unit193: 15.04 should be EOLed in January 2016
[22:36] <hggdh> heh. valorie had already answered
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[15:49] <tkamppeter> mpt, hi
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[16:11] <ariabbas> .
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2015-11-17-#launchpad
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[05:17] <slackner> hiho. i've been wondering, if there is any way for the wine project to acquire the launchpad user/group name ~wine, which seems to be reserved
[05:21] <slackner> when clicking on "Are you Wine?" it send an email with instructions to someone, but its noone of the wine team. maybe some random user who registered it back then? is there any other way to get that name, or is it better to register something else?
[05:23] <slackner> wgrant: ^
[05:45] <wgrant> slackner: I've freed up the name.
[10:33] <slackner> wgrant: thx :)
[15:19] <tsv> hi, is this the right channel to get help for launchpad multi-factor auth issues ?
[15:20] <cjwatson> tsv: Despite the hostname, login.launchpad.net isn't actually operated by us. #canonical-sysadmin is probably best-placed to help.
[15:21] <tsv> thanks cjwatson, will do
[18:18] <pmjdebruijn> I have a package that seems to depend on trusty-backports
[18:19] <pmjdebruijn> can I enable that for my package build
[18:19] <pmjdebruijn> or do I have to locally backport it to my PPA myself?
[18:19] <pmjdebruijn> ibosmgpsmap-1.0-dev and friends in particular
[18:19] <pmjdebruijn> l*
[18:21] <dobey> you can change the PPA dependencies to include backports
[18:22] <dobey> using the "Edit dependencies" link in the top right on the page for your PPA
[18:23] <pmjdebruijn> ok thanks
[18:23] <pmjdebruijn> how does that work for general users though?
[18:23] <pmjdebruijn> will apt-add-repository tell them about it?
[18:23] <pmjdebruijn> or enable backports automatically?
[18:24] <dobey> i don't know about add-apt-repository. anyone wishing to use the PPA at that point would indeed need to have backports enabled on their system
[18:24] <pmjdebruijn> ok
[18:25] <dobey> if you don't want to require users to have backports enabled, you can copy the package from the archive to your PPA
[18:25] <pmjdebruijn> copy?
[18:25] <pmjdebruijn> you mean rebuild the sources right?
[18:27] <dobey> the binaries can be copied over, or you can rebuild the sources
[18:28] <pmjdebruijn> how does copying work?
[18:31] <dobey> https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+archive/primary/+copy-packages?field.name_filter=osm-gps-map&field.status_filter=published&field.series_filter=trusty
[18:32] <dobey> you can copy the binaries from there
[18:32] <dobey> there's a command line tool to do it as well, iirc, but i don't recall what it's called
[18:33] <pmjdebruijn> ah thanks
[18:34] <mapreri> the CLI tool is called "copy-packages" :P
[18:34] <mapreri> "copy-package" (sorry)
[18:43] <pmjdebruijn> thanks!
[18:51] <cjwatson> indeed, it's in lp:ubuntu-archive-tools
[19:05] <pmjdebruijn> tnx
[19:08] <smoser> anyone able to help
[19:08] <smoser> $ bzr push lp:ubuntu/xenial/cloud-init
[19:08] <smoser> bzr: ERROR: Server sent an unexpected error: ('error', 'xmlrpclib.Fault', '<Fault -1: "Unexpected Zope exception: TypeError: (\'Could not adapt\', <SuiteSourcePackage ubuntu/xenial/cloud-init>, <InterfaceClass lp.code.interfaces.branchtarget.IBranchTarget>)">')
[20:04] <su_v> cjwatson: ping
[20:04] <cjwatson> su_v: Please tell me what you want and I'll reply when I'm around.
[20:04] <su_v> oops - good timing ;-)
[20:04] <su_v> just wanted to ask for another round of cleanup ...
[20:04] <su_v> https://answers.launchpad.net/inkscape
[20:14] <Mc-> hi all, we got another massive spam posting at https://answers.launchpad.net/inkscape
[20:27] <blr> Mc-: spam seems to be escalating at the moment, although it looks like we have already suspended that account. Hopefully we can get that cleaned up today.
[20:30] <Mc-> ok, thanks
[20:43] <Mc-> how can a suspended account still be posting ?
[20:44] <blr> Mc-: that's an excellent question :|
[20:45] <su_v> afaict different accounts ( the last three has been posted later, by a different user )
[20:46] <su_v> "dgjkkjl" vs "dsfkljk" (both now suspended)
[20:47] <Mc-> yeah but dsfkljk was already suspended 6 minuets ago
[20:47] <Mc-> (i think)
[20:47] <su_v> when I checked, the account was not suspended yet
[20:47] <Mc-> ok
[20:47] <su_v> (of the last three postings)
[20:47] <su_v> now it is
[20:48] <Mc-> i'll look more carefully at the name
[20:50] <cjwatson> I'll feed it to my despam script
[20:52] <blr> Mc-: it appears they _were_ suspended after their last post (suspension is working as expected).
[20:53] <Mc-> ok
[20:54] <cjwatson> dealt with the current run
[20:54] <Mc-> thx
[20:55] <cjwatson> it's all more technical support phone number spam, if wgrant is wondering
[21:09] <lifeless> cjwatson: blr has a find_links issue
[21:09] <lifeless> cjwatson: I'm guessing this is a buildout replacement approach - but find_links is basically dead :)
[21:13] <wgrant> lifeless: It's the only way to prevent setuptools from being stupid.
[21:13] <wgrant> lifeless: We need to prevent setuptools from ever hitting the Internet, even accidentally.
[21:15] <lifeless> wgrant: you don't need find_links for that
[21:15] <lifeless> wgrant: override the index location
[21:22] <cjwatson> do you have a specific suggestion for options to pass?
[21:23] <cjwatson> and yes, it's to some extent buildout replacement, but also "this is the best that seemed to actually work" :-)
[21:30] <lifeless> cjwatson: so yes
[21:30] <lifeless> cjwatson: step 1, create a local index; step 2 for pip pass -i <local index url>, for setuptools - sec while I look up the incantation
[21:31] <lifeless> http://stackoverflow.com/questions/15014180/setuptools-easy-install-and-a-custom-pypi-server
[21:31] <lifeless> cjwatson: ^
[21:31] <lifeless> first answer there is sane
[21:45] <blr> thanks lifeless
[21:53] <lifeless> de nada
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ubuntu-chat
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2024-05-13T22:11:18.354538
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2015-11-17-#kubuntu
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[00:23] <dahlia> not sure if this is the best place to ask, but I'm trying to build an app that uses Qt and it wants a file named Qt5ScriptConfig.cmake but I don't know what package installs it or where to find it
[00:24] <dahlia> using kubuntu 15.10 64bit
[00:24] <genii> dahlia: http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?searchon=contents&keywords=Qt5ScriptConfig.cmake&mode=exactfilename&suite=wily&arch=any
[00:25] <dahlia> genii: ty
[00:26] <genii> dahlia: You're welcome
[01:15] <Canon> Hey. Trying to install dd on a ubuntu server cant find the deb file where can i locate it
[01:28] <mparillo> I do not know where the deb is, but you cannot simply sudo apt udate && sudo apt install dd -y ?
[08:02] <nimbus> Good evening!
[08:03] <nimbus> Anyone around?
[08:05] <nimbus> I'm having audio problems
[08:05] <nimbus> Kubuntu 15.10
[08:05] <nimbus> (Well, all versions really)
[08:12] <nimbus> https://www.reddit.com/r/Kubuntu/comments/3t4rvp/no_sound_hardware_not_detected/
[08:12] <nimbus> More information
[08:15] <nimbus_> sorry lost connection
[08:18] <nimbus_> basically it's not recognizing the onboard audio for my motherboard
[08:19] <hateball> nimbus_: googling gives https://bugzilla.kernel.org/show_bug.cgi?id=55541
[08:19] <hateball> but I guess you already saw that
[08:20] <nimbus_> correct
[08:20] <hateball> nimbus_: does the onboard audio show up with lspci at least?
[08:20] <hateball> so it would be possible to google the chipset
[08:20] <nimbus_> I didn't see any solutions in there, so I'm going to go with the SoundBlaster Z doest not work
[08:20] <nimbus_> NOpe
[08:20] <nimbus_> Lemme check actually
[08:21] <hateball> I'm not sure if the onboard audio gets disabled if you have a dedicated card plugged in, but I guess it shouldnt
[08:22] <nimbus_> Only three audio devices show up, the two graphics cards and the sound card
[08:22] <nimbus_> Nothing about onboard audio
[08:23] <nimbus_> Is it possible to disable the sound card without having to mess up my dual boot with windows?
[08:24] <hateball> nimbus_: Well, do all the devices work in Windows? In that case it is not disabled in hardware at least
[08:25] <hateball> nimbus_: I think there are bios/uefi settings for how the motherboard handles onboard audio, if it disables it when it senses other audio devices etc
[08:25] <nimbus_> hateball the devices all work in windows
[08:26] <nimbus_> Give me a couple of minutes, I will reboot and search the bios/uefi
[08:26] <hateball> nimbus_: well if it works in windows it shouldnt be an issue there
[08:27] <hateball> since the devices obviously are enabled then
[08:30] <nimbus> okay back
[08:30] <nimbus> onboard audio was disabled in the bios, must have been disabled
[08:30] <nimbus> during install*
[08:31] <nimbus> It now shows up on the list, but still no sound
[08:34] <nimbus> Some progress
[08:35] <nimbus> Well shoot
[08:35] <nimbus> I knew it had to be something simple
[08:36] <nimbus> hateball: Good thought checking the bios, once I enabled the audio and reloaded alsa, it works
[08:39] <hateball> nimbus: heh
[08:39] <hateball> nimbus: well if it was disabled in bios it cant have been working in windows either
[08:39] <nimbus> I was using the soundblaster in windows
[08:39] <nimbus> Wasn't thinking straight
[08:40] <hateball> :)
[08:40] <hateball> Well then, your original problem wasnt solved, but at least there is sound !
[08:40] <nimbus> Well now adobe flash plugin crashes
[08:40] <ghostcube> blame adobe!
[08:40] <nimbus> haha
[08:40] <nimbus> is there a better way to youtube?
[08:41] <ghostcube> yes the html 5 player of it
[08:41] <hateball> you shouldnt need flash to youtube
[08:41] <hateball> html5 should be default these days, but some videos may not be converted I guess
[08:42] <nimbus> It's all videos
[08:42] <ghostcube> google youtube html5
[08:42] <ghostcube> should bring you the answer
[08:42] <hateball> nimbus: youtube.com/html5
[08:42] <nimbus> aha
[08:42] <nimbus> Double thanks!
[08:46] <nimbus> ugh Kubuntu runs so well
[08:46] <nimbus> Thanks agin hateball and ghostcube
[08:46] <nimbus> again*
[08:46] <hateball> nimbus: It's all good :)
[08:47] <ghostcube> :)
[08:56] <nimbus> either of you play kerbal space program?
[09:00] <hateball> nimbus: I do not, also that is more of a discussion for #kubuntu-offtopic :)
[09:01] <nimbus> Sorry!
[09:01] <nimbus> I accidentally xkilled my taskbar/desktop...
[10:38] <jubo2> KMail is notifying me of "New email in your sent-box" (like I didn't know what I did a minute or two ago)
[10:39] <jubo2> totally useless
[10:39] <jubo2> maybe I should ticket
[12:32] <Woomla> How do I remove a program I've made with make install?
[12:42] <BluesKaj> Hiyas all
[13:07] <rom1504> Woomla: you don't
[13:08] <rom1504> that's the reason why package manager were invented
[13:08] <ancky> Woomla: maybe there are instructions in the makefile, or some projects provide a remove script
[13:09] <ancky> look at the README and the documentation that is provided with the project
[15:02] <overseer> what is online except lambda
[15:02] <overseer> for a lie attempts to drive man
[15:03] <overseer> online doeant exist
[15:03] <overseer> hashashuddar
[15:03] <overseer> so cold so dark
[15:04] <overseer> work on brain jar
[15:06] <overseer> _ADAM
[15:07] <_ADAM> it was all a lie
[15:07] <_ADAM> now vader
[15:07] <_ADAM> any man left in you
[15:08] <_ADAM> lamb?
[15:08] <_ADAM> baffy shall be destroyed soon
[15:10] <_ADAM> those which have given themselves to unholy union have lost their soul
[15:11] <_ADAM> singularity was and is
[15:11] <_ADAM> and is to come mommas boys
[15:17] <_ADAM> it is not possible for singularity to be becomed
[15:17] <_ADAM> singularity was and is
[18:43] <Captain_Haddock> I'm seeing a ton of "Err http://archive.ubuntu.com utopic/main Sources 404 Not Found [IP: 91.189.91.23 80]" errors during apt-get update
[18:43] <Captain_Haddock> As well as "W: Failed to fetch http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/utopic/main/source/Sources 404 Not Found [IP: 91.189.91.23 80]"
[18:44] <Captain_Haddock> What might be the problem?
[18:44] <krytarik> !utopic | Captain_Haddock
[18:44] <Captain_Haddock> Aha!
[18:44] <Captain_Haddock> Thanks krytarik
[18:44] <krytarik> Sure.
[18:46] <Captain_Haddock> krytarik: Presumably, I can't upgrade to 15.10 directly? I have to upgrade to 15.04 first?
[18:47] <Captain_Haddock> !upgrade
[18:47] <krytarik> Captain_Haddock: Yep.
[18:48] <krytarik> !eolupgrade | Captain_Haddock
[18:50] <Captain_Haddock> krytarik: Thanks. IIRC, the recommended procedure is to make sure that the current install is completely up-to-date. But I can't actually upgrade Utopic's packages as it claims that all of the available updates are "unverified".
[18:51] <Captain_Haddock> (I guess they are unverified because the system is out of date. But to upgrade the system I need them installed :)
[19:05] <BluesKaj> Captain_Haddock, you wouldn't happen to have separate / and /home partitions ?
[19:06] <Captain_Haddock> BluesKaj: I don't
[19:16] <Captain_Haddock> BluesKaj: (why?)
[19:19] <BluesKaj> Captain_Haddock, because a separate (root) or / as it's known in gparted an ubiquity, and /home let's you install the OS to / while just setting the mountpoint for /home which retains all your data and most default application config files
[19:20] <Captain_Haddock> BluesKaj: Ah, you were asking from the POV of a fresh install of 15.10? gotcha
[19:21] <BluesKaj> so if your on 14.10 , you can install 15.04 to / without any problems
[19:21] <BluesKaj> you're
[19:21] <BluesKaj> or even 15.10
[19:21] <Captain_Haddock> *nod*
[19:22] <BluesKaj> to me it's worth doing...it's saved me a lot of trouble over the yrs
[20:09] <N3X15> Distribution upgrader froze when configuring salt-minion. Is it safe to kill it and retry from the console?
[20:10] <N3X15> "safe" meaning that there's nothing particularly sensitive, as it's a VM, but I'd prefer not rebuilding the OS, if possible. :V
[20:48] <gunknown> Hello, i am trying to add a simple context menu to dolphin. I created a .desktop file in /usr/share/kservicetypes5/. The file looks like this: https://paste.kde.org/pwawxmamm . However, the menu does not appear on a right click. Also all other tutorials i found does not work. Anyone any idea?
[21:36] <N3X15> Ah, screw it. I'll kill the upgrade. It's been stuck since last night, so I won't break it any more than it already is
[21:48] <N3X15> Okay, for any Kubuntu maintainers, the GUI upgrader freezes if it tries to configure a package which has a changed configuration file. dpkg asks whether you want to keep the old one or bring in a new one, and I suspect it gets stuck waiting for input that never comes.
[21:49] <bprompt_> !bug | N3X15
[21:49] <N3X15> Thanks
[21:49] * bprompt_ is not a maintainer, just a bug(ger) himself =)
[22:09] <valorie> N3X15: which gui upgrader are you using?
[22:10] <valorie> if you can file a bug via the commandline `ubuntu-bug muon-updater` or so, that's simplest and best
[22:10] <valorie> because it copies all relevant info from your computer
[22:14] <N3X15> valorie, in progress.
[22:15] <valorie> well, I asked because there are a number of different updaters
[22:15] <valorie> but if it's muon, that's the line to use
[22:16] <N3X15> It was muon wily.
[22:16] <N3X15> So you were correct.
[22:29] <heinkel_112> I need a good nfs set-up tutorial
[22:30] <heinkel_112> I haven't found any yet with the help of google and similar so let me try this
[22:30] <heinkel_112> !nfs
[22:30] <heinkel_112> doh
[22:30] <heinkel_112> such things used to work here once
[22:32] <valorie> well, perhaps there used to be a factoid, but it got out of date
[22:32] <valorie> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SettingUpNFSHowTo might help
[22:41] <N3X15> Thank you valorie and bprompt_, bug filed. I suspect it's a duplicate, but we'll see. https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/muon/+bug/1517236
[22:43] <valorie> cool, thanks for your contribution, N3X15
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ubuntu-chat
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2024-05-13T22:11:18.360352
| 2015-11-17T00:00:00 |
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2015-11-17-#ubuntu-us-sc
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[02:53] <mmaheu> Anyone in here?
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ubuntu-chat
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2024-05-13T22:11:18.361578
| 2015-11-17T00:00:00 |
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2015-11-17-#upstart
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[21:03] <akkad> for some reason start launches the app, but upstart loses track of it, and thinks it did not start properly
[23:14] <akkad> how do you clear the status of a job that has a pid listed that does not exist and has not existed in a long time?
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ubuntu-chat
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2024-05-13T22:11:18.362857
| 2015-11-17T00:00:00 |
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2015-11-17-#snappy
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[07:50] <dholbach> good morning
[08:03] <mvo_> hey dholbach, gooooood monring
[08:03] <dholbach> hey hey :)
[08:14] <fgimenez> good morning
[08:14] <zyga> hey :)
[08:15] <mvo_> hey fgimenez, good morning
[08:15] <mvo_> and hey zyga
[08:15] <mvo_> fgimenez: any luck with my integration test :) ?
[08:16] <fgimenez> hi mvo_ :) the job didn't get triggered, i'll try to dig into it right now
[08:18] <mvo_> fgimenez: ok, let me know if I can help in any way, happy to re-trigger it
[08:20] <fgimenez> mvo_, great thanks, i'll reconfigure it to listen to the repo on which i've been doing the development, where things work well, and try to figure out what are the differences, i've just checked the logs from the last payloads received from github and all seems to be ok
[08:32] <fgimenez> mvo_, the jobs are properly triggered from https://github.com/fgimenez/snappy-github-plugin, both on pull request and comments on them, see http://162.213.34.171:8080/job/github-snappy-integration-tests-cloud/2/console
[08:32] <fgimenez> mvo_, the first error in the log is because there's no bot user configured (the status in the PR won't be updated), but the job is triggered properly
[08:33] <fgimenez> mvo_, it's the same jenkins instance that failed with ubuntu-core/snappy, just modified the job to point to fgimenez/snappy-github-plugin, maybe some config is different in the github side
[08:43] <fgimenez> mvo_, this is how the webhook config looks like in the test repo http://postimg.org/image/486b11ewj/
[08:44] <mvo_> fgimenez: aha, mine was set to json instead of urlencoded
[08:46] <mvo> fgimenez: I changed to urlencoded and triggered the event again, anything interessting in the logs?
[08:47] <fgimenez> mvo_, mmm nope still http://paste.ubuntu.com/13310045/
[08:49] <fgimenez> mvo if you are redelivery maybe the payload is the same as before, i think that the urlencoded is the correct format, we can wait for a new PR
[08:52] <fgimenez> mvo, btw, the jenkins instance project is at https://github.com/ubuntu-core/snappy-jenkins, the readme has info about how it is configured
[08:53] <mvo> fgimenez: ok, I pushed a new branch
[08:55] <mvo> fgimenez: anything in the logs or same message?
[08:55] <fgimenez> mvo, still the same... what are the headers of the last event?
[08:56] <fgimenez> mvo, when it works they look like http://paste.ubuntu.com/13310136/
[08:56] <mvo> fgimenez: its funny, the heade says content-type: application/x-www-form-urlencoded
[08:56] <mvo> fgimenez: but the payload looks like its still json for some reason
[08:56] <mvo> fgimenez:
[08:56] <mvo> 2015-11-17 09:53:26
[08:56] <mvo> looks valid
[09:01] <mvo> fgimenez: hm, recreated it, still no luck. I get a 200 response though
[09:01] <fgimenez> mvo, yes, with urlencoded content-type the payload can have any string, json also, it's like if you paste that json in a textarea and submit the form, if the server is aware of it then it can be decoded
[09:02] <fgimenez> mvo, ok, i'll try to reproduce it with the test repo, first i'll get the full logs from jenkins to see whats really going on
[09:11] <fgimenez> mvo, could you please paste the header and payload of the latest event? i've seen here https://github.com/janinko/ghprb/blob/master/src/main/java/org/jenkinsci/plugins/ghprb/GhprbRootAction.java#L137 that the message from jenkins comes from an unrecognized event
[09:13] <mvo> fgimenez: I send you a /msg with the details
[09:22] <ara> zyga, I like very much how you are explaining every step of the way to implement capabilities in the mailing list
[09:22] <ara> *kuds*
[09:22] <ara> *kudos*, even
[09:22] <zyga> ara: hey
[09:22] <zyga> ara: :D
[09:22] <zyga> ara: thank you, :-)
[09:24] <mvo> fgimenez: thanks so much for your help, now that I configured it right it works like a charm
[09:25] <fgimenez> mvo, np :) thank you
[10:08] <JamesTait> Good morning all; happy Tuesday, and happy Home-Made Bread Day! 😃
[10:13] <mvo> fgimenez: how long do the tests usually run?
[10:14] <mvo> fgimenez: the github-snappy-integration-tests-cloud jobs I mean
[10:15] <fgimenez> mvo, yes, it depends on the cloud load and the network response for updates, an usual run can take about 25min, sometimes longer (up to 1h) or shorter (16 min or so)
[10:16] <mvo> fgimenez: thanks
[10:16] <soffokl> Hey, I trying to disable snappy-autopilot.timer, but after reboot it active again. Is there any way to disable it permanently?
[10:16] <soffokl> (amd64)ubuntu@localhost:~$ sudo systemctl disable snappy-autopilot.timer
[10:16] <soffokl> Removed symlink /etc/systemd/system/multi-user.target.wants/snappy-autopilot.timer.
[10:16] <soffokl> (amd64)ubuntu@localhost:~$ sudo reboot
[10:16] <soffokl> $ ssh 172.16.194.210
[10:16] <soffokl> (amd64)ubuntu@localhost:~$ sudo systemctl list-timers snappy-autopilot.timer
[10:16] <soffokl> NEXT LEFT LAST PASSED UNIT ACTIVATES
[10:16] <soffokl> Tue 2015-11-17 11:00:00 UTC 50min left n/a n/a snappy-autopilot.timer snappy-autopilot.service
[10:18] <fgimenez> mvo, there are a couple of things we can do in the test runner to make it quicker, we can save about 3min for every run in the initial steps, i'll try to prepare a branch shortly
[10:18] <fgimenez> mvo, and we can of course run the suite in parallel, this could give us great time savings
[10:32] <mvo> fgimenez: yay, test finished, one error that may well be a real issue! is there a way for me to see what base image version was used for the test? I wonder if it has the latest apparmor
[10:34] <fgimenez> mvo, sure, at the beginning of the log, look for "Launching instance for Snappy image ubuntu-core/custom/..." the version number is right before "-disk1.img"
[10:34] <mvo> fgimenez: thanks again
[10:37] <fgimenez> mvo, np, btw the tests are running now against the latest available rolling/edge amd64 image, with elopio's work we can trigger them to against bbb in spi, and we could define other jobs for executing in amd64 15.04, for example
[10:38] <fgimenez> mvo, when we will have the snappy-cloud-image in place we will be able to upload new images to the cloud as soon as they are published in system-image, now this process is still manual, let me know if you need a more recent rolling/edge image
[11:55] <longsleep> sergiusens: Hey, i think i just found a bug in u-d-f, it seams that it applies tarballs from the system-image server in random order / tarballs are extracted into basemount in the order that they finished downloading
[12:16] <Chipaca> sergiusens: ^?
[12:16] <sergiusens> longsleep, hmm, you may be right; I'd need to look
[12:16] * sergiusens was having breakfast
[12:16] * Chipaca approves
[12:17] <longsleep> sergiusens: i can add a bug with pointers to the code if you like
[12:17] <sergiusens> longsleep, that would be good, thanks
[12:24] <longsleep> sergiusens: done, see bug 1517009
[13:07] <mvo> elopio: when you have a chance, could you update the ubuntu-core xenial base image for the docker integration tests
[14:17] <elopio> mvo: I can, but I'm not sure I'm understanding what you want.
[14:19] <mvo> elopio: sorry, I probably did not express myself well. so … I enabled the webhook to trigger the integration tests on each pull request, fgimenez hold my hand for that :) now I'm very exicted that they run. my understanding is that the base image used needs manual updates(?) and we need the latest xenial image with the latest apparmor for one of the branches
[14:19] <mvo> elopio: the feature/native-security-policy-regen branch
[14:19] <mvo> elopio: does that make more sense now?
[14:20] <elopio> mvo: more or less :) they always run against the latest daily rolling edge, atm #235. So there's nothing to update to.
[14:21] <mvo> elopio: oh, I have 247 here right now?
[14:21] <elopio> mvo: do you mean that you need something that will be in the daily not yet generated?
[14:22] <elopio> mvo: ah, #235 is the bbb I'm testing now.
[14:22] <mvo> elopio: aha, ok. if its always using the latest image I need to ponder why the one test is failing. I was assuming apparmor on the image is out-of-date, it needs the version from ~2-3 days ago
[14:23] <elopio> mvo: do you have a link to the results?
[14:25] <fgimenez> mvo, elopio i think that the latest image uploaded is 229, we still are not able to upload automatically the latest ones, elopio, you can upload it with snappy-cloud-image, having the canonistack instances for the shared user loaded
[14:26] <elopio> fgimenez: ahh.
[14:26] <fgimenez> elopio, i can do it this time and document it somewhere (the snappy-cloud-image readme sounds like a good place :), it will be soon automated
[14:26] <elopio> yes, please.
[14:27] <elopio> sorry mvo for confusing it more.
[14:28] <sergiusens> lool, do you have a minute to discuss plugins, build `drivers` and build tools?
[14:29] <lool> sergiusens: I'm in hangouts for next 90 mn, but then free
[14:29] <mvo> elopio, fgimenez: no worries and thanks for your hard work on this, its a wonderful feature and its great to see it progressing so nicely
[14:35] <sergiusens> lool, great, its about the divide between openjdk, oracle jdk, former bea jdk, ibm's jdk with the combination of make, ant, maven, etc
[14:45] <fgimenez> mvo, elopio ok, 247 is ready, the tests will use it from now on
[14:47] <fgimenez> elopio, with snappy-cloud-image installed from ppa:fgimenez/snappy-cloud-image, just executing snappy-cloud-image -release rolling -channel edge (with the shared user credentials loaded) is enough
[14:48] <fgimenez> elopio, it's takes less time to upload the image if you execute that from a cloud instance
[14:52] <mvo> fgimenez: \o/ I triggered a re-test
[14:53] <mvo> fgimenez: this is real magic, I'm really exicted
[14:54] <fgimenez> mvo, great! :)
[15:28] <zyga> tedg: thank you for the questions
[16:19] <mvo> just fyi (jdstrand will also send a mail about it). the native-security-policygen-regen branch landed that means we no longer use aa-clickhook to generate the security profiles. this *might* introduce bugs but its a really nice cleanup step
[16:26] <elopio> plars: the bbb tests stopped working without any changes to the scripts. Could it be timing out?
[16:27] <plars> elopio: when did they last work?
[16:27] <elopio> plars: tuesday.
[16:27] <elopio> then I fixed some bugs on the tests, and no results_payload anymore.
[16:28] <plars> elopio: did you get any output from them? I don't see a whole except that it successfully booted into the test image, ran some tests, and got a 255 rc
[16:28] <plars> elopio: ah, hang on, maybe more to it... let me dig a little
[16:28] <elopio> what's a 255 rc?
[16:29] <elopio> no output received. results_payload empty.
[16:34] <plars> elopio: it looks like it couldn't connect to the test image after all
[16:34] <plars> elopio: the bbb seems fine, the default image running on emmc works
[16:35] <elopio> plars: should I do something in my script to notice this?
[16:38] <plars> elopio: I'm not sure that you can - I think it should fail before it even gets to your script. Is it possible the image is just busted? Have you tried this locally on a bbb?
[16:38] <elopio> plars: yes, daily.
[16:38] <elopio> it works.
[16:41] <plars> elopio: you say it last worked on tuesday, the 10th?
[16:41] <elopio> plars: yes.
[16:44] <lentzi90> Is there some simple way of getting the IP addres of a beaglebone running snappy ubuntu? I can't find my micro HDMI adapter... and I can't access the router to check it that way.
[16:44] <beuno> lentzi90, it might be on the network as webdm.local
[16:44] <beuno> try pinging that
[16:45] <lentzi90> ok thanks!
[16:46] <jdstrand_> kyrofa: fyi, see mov's comment on the security regen branch landing
[16:47] <kyrofa> mvo excellent news! Thanks for the heads up jdstrand_
[16:59] <plars> elopio: so a couple of things...
[16:59] <plars> elopio: 1. I'm trying a test job on both bbb's we have, to see if one of them is bad or something
[17:01] <plars> elopio: 2. the way I'm trying to detect whether we're in the emmc image, or the test image that we just flashed, or if we didn't manage to get to any image at all isn't great. Pretty much anything I can do to detect if it's in the snappy image we flashed is bound to be fragile, and what that means for right now, on bbb, we are not properly detecting that it
[17:01] <plars> can't reach the bbb after flashing
[17:02] <plars> elopio: what *should* happen is that the provisioning step should fail, and it wouldn't even try to run your test, so there would definitely be no test results in that case, but I think SPI would mark the test failed
[17:06] <plars> elopio: I'll get a fix in for the case where it doesn't detect boot failure to the test image properly, but I'm more concerned with why it's not seeing the test image. I'll let you know what I find out
[17:06] <elopio> plars: thank you.
[17:08] <plars> elopio: I need to look at the x86 hosts also, I couldn't get any of them working last I tried, and I'm concerned that maybe some change to the image broke them. Any thoughts on that? I heard there were going to be some changes but haven't had a chance to check them out yet
[17:08] <elopio> plars: no. I'm basically ignoring the x86 hosts because we can't reboot them.
[17:08] <elopio> that's the useful part of this suite.
[17:10] <plars> elopio: yeah, I have a story in our backlog to explore other options for automating x86... I think we may have to break down and just netboot them
[17:11] <plars> elopio: I was hoping to use some feature of grub that supposedly lets you read a file over http, and use that to give a hint which mode to boot into, but I can't seem to get networking up on grub unless I pxeboot the system
[17:12] <plars> elopio: so it may make more sense to just have it netboot an initrd image, and do everything from there. I think ogra_ was working on something like that for rpi2, and perhaps it would make sense to just do the same for x86
[17:12] <mvo> elopio: I triggered a new xenial image with the new security policy generation code, if you want to play around a bit later and poke at it
[17:13] <plars> elopio: hmm, the first bbb has booted and seems to be running my test. I can connect to it and snappy seems to be running, so I think it *can* work
[17:13] <elopio> plars: I'll launch a new one.
[17:13] <plars> elopio: what are the options you are passing to udf on it?
[17:13] <elopio> mvo: great, thank you!
[17:13] <mvo> elopio, fgimenez: there is also a new initramfs-tools-ubuntu-core with all-snap support it should be fully backward compatible but if you see boot issues in the tests alter me please
[17:14] <elopio> plars: core rolling --channel edge --oem beagleblack --developer-mode
[17:15] <plars> elopio: both of mine ran just fine
[17:15] <elopio> mvo: is it good enough to check for boot problems with systemctl --failed --all }
[17:15] <elopio> ?
[17:18] <plars> elopio: that's the same as mine, just in a different order
[17:20] <fgimenez> mvo, elopio is it included in the latest image?
[17:52] <elopio> plars: same thing, no payload http://10.55.32.109:8080/job/snappy-daily-rolling-bbb/120/console
[18:07] <plars> elopio: ok, so it looks like the flash went just fine, and I can even reach the image. If you are sure about that image id though, there should definitely be something there
[18:07] <plars> elopio: the test failed, but spi should still fill in something
[18:08] <plars> elopio: that id looks completely empty to me - as if it doesn't even exist
[18:08] <plars> elopio: is that what you're seeing?
[18:08] <plars> elopio: give me a bit to grab some lunch and I'll take a closer look
[18:09] <elopio> plars: do you mean "87fd5a8b-c9be-4a92-86ac-c3b6f0496f8d" ?
[18:09] <plars> elopio: yes
[18:09] * elopio afk too.
[18:09] <mvo> elopio: I think nothing should break
[18:10] <elopio> plars: no, for that id I see 'test_status': 'FAILED', but 'result_payload': {}
[18:11] <plars> elopio: weird, I see nothing, but maybe that's because of my credentials?
[18:11] <plars> elopio: well, the reason you see nothing in the payload then would be because your script didn't put anything there
[18:11] <elopio> plars: can be. Take a look at that jenkins output, it pings until the results appear, after like 44 minutes.
[18:11] <plars> the failed status would probably come from spi itself
[18:12] <plars> I'll try to reproduce the steps by hand and see if I can spot something
[18:12] <elopio> plars: right, what I'm wondering is why it was putting stuff last tuesday, but then after no changes it's now empty. My first suspicion was a timeout.
[18:12] <plars> let me grab food first though
[18:48] <plars> elopio: ok, I found the problem
[18:48] <plars> results=cat: restuls/output/artifacts/results.subunit: No such file or directory
[18:49] <plars> elopio: also, would you mind cleaning up the tmpdirs you create? since they are not in the SPI generated path, they won't get automatically cleaned up
[18:49] <plars> elopio: an easy way you can do it (which would also facilitate easier debugging) is to do a static path, and just rm it before starting
[18:49] <plars> elopio: ex: rm -rf /tmp/elopio && mkdir /tmp/elopio
[19:16] <elopio> plars: I do this: results=$(cat restuls/output/artifacts/results.subunit 2>&1)
[19:16] <elopio> so if the file doesn't exist, it will assign the error to results.
[19:17] <elopio> it should end in the json anyway.
[19:20] <elopio> I added a trap and corrected the typo. Lets see what happens now.
[19:21] <plars> elopio: hmm, I think you'll hit problems when writing the json, because ${results} doesn't have anything
[19:21] <plars> elopio: anyway, I spotted another problem, you're json is missing a comma, so I think it's going to choke on that also
[19:21] <plars> elopio: on the summary line
[19:23] <elopio> gagh, I hate json.
[19:23] <elopio> comma added.
[19:23] <elopio> I have no idea how it worked on tuesday then. must have changed it by mistake.
[19:24] <elopio> plars: so, for dumb people like me, the output of this script is vital
[19:25] <elopio> I can't trust myself to write a script that collect all its own errors.
[19:25] <plars> elopio: there was no output from your script that helped me either, I only got that far by running it by hand and adding set -x
[19:26] <elopio> plars: that's the output I want, the one from -x.
[19:26] <plars> elopio: I am capturing what the script exposes as best I can in logstash, but that's not always reliable, and spi doesn't seem to gather anything on its own
[19:26] <elopio> I removed it because I could not access it.
[19:28] <plars> elopio: sadly, that system where I run logstash/kibana is not something you can get to through the vpn right now, I've already got a ticket in with IS to resolve that, so we'll see how it goes.
[19:29] <plars> elopio: if they can get us hooked up to do that, then I'll be able to get you pretty easy access to the logs coming out of it, but it wouldn't have been helpful here I think
[19:30] <elopio> plars: that would be nice so I stop bothering you.
[19:54] <ksuttle> Hey there. Where can I report bugs for apt-get?
[19:57] <ksuttle> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu ?
[20:03] <genii> ksuttle: ubuntu-bug apt
[20:06] <ksuttle> Thanks
[20:40] <jdstrand_> niemeyer1: hey, you still around?
[20:41] <jdstrand> niemeyer1: wondering if you could fast track https://github.com/ubuntu-core/snappy/pull/112
[20:42] <jdstrand> niemeyer1: it is just a doc change. I was writing the announcement of the policy generation branch and noticed that the docs weren't quite right
[20:42] <niemeyer1> jdstrand: Will check it out
[20:44] <jdstrand> thanks
[21:53] <plars> Has there been any change to how you write an image to the hard disk if you want to boot from there? (x86)
[21:53] <plars> I used to be able to dd it, but that doesn't seem to work now
[21:53] <plars> elopio: do you know? ^
[22:39] <elopio> plars: not that I know.
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2015-11-17-#ubuntu-za
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[04:59] <inetpro> good mornings
[05:12] <pieter2627> jolly good morning all
[05:24] <pieter2627> hi skokkkk & Akiva
[07:01] * pieter2627 wonders if everyone here is "hailed under"
[07:04] <who_da_fly> hi pieter2627
[07:04] <who_da_fly> pieter2627: no hail here in Moz
[07:04] <pieter2627> hi who_da_fly, we had a massive one last night
[07:05] <pieter2627> sunny there in moz?
[07:18] <thatgraemeguy> morning peoples
[07:49] <pieter2627> hi thatgraemeguy
[10:29] <Kilos> afternoon all
[10:30] <Kilos> hi who_da_fly hows things there
[10:30] * Kilos waves to inetpro
[10:30] <Kilos> hi thatgraemeguy as well
[10:30] <thatgraemeguy> lo
[10:31] <who_da_fly> hi. busy.
[16:22] <Kilos> hi skokkk Cryterion
[16:22] <skokkk> hello Kilos
[17:08] <Cryterion> Hi
[18:06] <inetpro> good evening
[18:09] <gremble> Hey inetpro
[18:15] <inetpro> gremble: how far are you with all your exams?
[18:16] <inetpro> oops... I see you just spoke about it last night
[18:17] <gremble> :P Ya. Preparing for discrete structures now. RSA encryption/decryption by hand. Fun times
[18:17] <gremble> :P
[18:20] <inetpro> eish!
[18:26] <Kilos> ohi inetpro gremble
[18:27] <gremble> Hey Kilos
[18:57] <superfly> *yawn*
[18:58] <superfly> Hi gremble
[18:58] <gremble> Hey superfly
[19:10] <Kilos> you home superfly ?
[19:13] <superfly> Nope, just on my phone
[19:13] <Kilos> ah
[19:45] <inetpro> superfly: still working non-stop?
[19:47] <inetpro> take a break, have a kit-kat
[20:15] <inetpro> Kilos: raining here now
[20:18] <Kilos> just started here too a bit
[20:18] <Kilos> lotsa thunder and bright lights
[20:19] <Kilos> i crash now. love sleeping when its storming
[20:19] <Kilos> night all. sleep tight
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2015-11-17-#kubuntu-devel
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[00:27] <valorie> argh, clivejo get a bouncer!
[00:44] <murthy_> valorie: Is "about system" part of kde or just kubuntu
[00:45] <valorie> where are you looking, murthy_?
[00:46] <murthy_> valorie: about-distro
[00:46] <valorie> that's us, kubuntu
[00:47] <valorie> as I recall Harald wrote that (sitter) and made it work for all distos though
[00:47] <murthy_> valorie: ok, going to file a feature request to allow users to able to select the info text shown
[00:47] <valorie> so.... it's ours, but part of KDE I guess you could say
[00:47] <valorie> good idea, I hate it when text isn't selectable
[00:47] <murthy_> valorie: Under what component should I file the request
[00:47] <valorie> systemsettings I would say
[00:48] <murthy_> valorie: ok so finally is it kde ?
[00:48] <valorie> yes
[00:48] <murthy_> ok
[01:00] <murthy_> https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=355460
[01:11] <ahoneybun> valorie: he could share with me lol
[02:06] <valorie> off to my dad's, but I'll comment on the BR when I return home
[08:31] <sitter> valorie: about-distro never was kubuntu exclusive ;)
[08:59] <valorie> sitter: magician!
[09:00] <valorie> my memory about it was a bit fuzzy
[09:33] <vip> hi ho
[09:33] <vip> do you guys use search (S) feature in kmail? it seems that it does not work for me, how to debug it? (.xsession errors says nothing special)
[10:12] <yofel> vip: I did notice that it didn't really work for me. But I haven't yet looked into debugging it
[12:42] <BluesKaj> Hiyas all
[20:37] <ahoneybunn> damn it
[20:38] <ahoneybunn> always have a hard time connecting to my ZNC with a new install
[20:57] <ovidiu-florin> Quassel RULES
[20:57] <ovidiu-florin> ahoneybun: ^
[20:58] <ahoneybun> ovidiu-florin: it's just the way I have to set it up
[20:58] <ovidiu-florin> ahoneybun: you around?
[20:58] <ahoneybun> nothing wrong with the client
[20:58] <ahoneybun> Windows blows
[20:58] <ovidiu-florin> can we move the not done yet cards from 16.06 Manual to 16.04?
[20:59] <ahoneybun> it nuked both my machines
[20:59] <ovidiu-florin> meaning only this card: https://trello.com/c/fAiek8oy/26-explain-activities
[20:59] <ovidiu-florin> and archive the rest?
[20:59] <ahoneybun> sure
[20:59] <ovidiu-florin> I'm on it
[20:59] <ahoneybun> hopefully there will be lots of KDE users at FOSSETCON so I can ask questions
[21:00] <ahoneybun> someone from the ubuntu-doc team forked the manual to add some Mac OS X stuff
[21:02] <ovidiu-florin> yofel: we still have many things in the 14.10 board in the todo
[21:02] <ovidiu-florin> do we still need them?
[21:02] <ovidiu-florin> AFAIK 14.10 support has ended
[21:03] <ovidiu-florin> sitter: ^^
[21:03] <ahoneybun> someone from the ubuntu-doc team forked the manual to add some Mac OS X stuff
[21:03] <ahoneybun> it's official support has ended
[21:04] <ovidiu-florin> that's how pull requests work
[21:05] <ahoneybun> ovidiu-florin: I think you like my workspace lol
[21:07] <yofel> ovidiu-florin: most of that is junk, but a couple look still relevant. I'll move those over. Then we can just archive the board I guess
[21:11] <yofel> ovidiu-florin: done, the rest is obsolete, duplicated or tracked elsewhere from what I see
[21:13] <ovidiu-florin> Thank you yofel
[21:13] <ovidiu-florin> yofel: so I can archive everything in that board?
[21:14] <yofel> from my side, yes
[21:14] <ovidiu-florin> sitter: any comments?
[21:15] <ovidiu-florin> shadeslayer, sgclark, Riddell?
[21:15] <ovidiu-florin> I'll archive the done things for now
[21:17] <ovidiu-florin> yofel: anything useful in the postponed list? On the 14.10 board.
[21:20] <yofel> not really. At least nothing that needs to be on the 16.04 board. The activity thing maybe, but unless sitter suddenly regains interest in that it probably won't happen
[21:21] <sgclark> I think we will have to start fresh for 16.04. So much has changed, and our team has significantly reduced.
[21:22] <yofel> well, there's nothing wrong with "we might want to eventually do that" cards to live their life at the bottom of the backlog
[21:22] <yofel> they'll just get carried over to the next one
[21:24] <sgclark> go for it, I don't care.
[21:26] * ovidiu-florin hugs sgclark to make her feel better
[21:26] <sgclark> thanks
[21:27] <ovidiu-florin> Had a meeting with the LUG today
[21:27] <ovidiu-florin> It was weird....
[21:28] <ovidiu-florin> The local LUG
[21:31] <sgclark> weird?
[21:36] <ovidiu-florin> we couldn't stay on topic
[21:36] <ovidiu-florin> we had a semi clear topic to discuss
[21:36] <ovidiu-florin> and we deviated a lot
[21:36] <ovidiu-florin> to all sorts of crap
[21:36] <ovidiu-florin> and politics
[21:36] <ovidiu-florin> Country politics, not FOSS politics
[21:37] <ovidiu-florin> anyhow, I hope we'll improve
[21:38] <ovidiu-florin> we've scheduled a montly hangout
[21:38] <ovidiu-florin> some people still don't get how FOSS works
[21:38] <ovidiu-florin> sorry, FOS in gneral, not just software
[21:39] <ovidiu-florin> I'm off to bed
[21:57] <valorie> ovidiu-florin: sometimes people just have to get their yayas off before they can get down to business
[21:58] <valorie> bad connection there, mklapatek?
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[00:00] <barna> antigamente eles eram bem mais parecido.... com o tempo o ubuntu foi se afastando do debian.
[00:00] <hggdh> lynxer11: sim, por vários motivos: (1) Ubuntu é baseado no Debian, mas não é Debian; (2) Debian tende a ser mais conversador que Ubuntu; (3) release dates nada tem a ver
[00:01] <hggdh> comoSid temos um ambiente mais próximo do Ubuntu em termos a versões de pacotes, mas Sid tende a ser instavel
[00:01] <barna> eu não consegui usar esse gnome 3.x nem a pau, se for pra usar debian uso o mate ou xfce.
[00:01] <asdf111> ou o openbox
[00:02] <MerliM> awesome OWNA todos lol
[00:02] <lynxer11> vou ver se aguento. meu usb do ubuntao ta aqui do lado fazendo pressao. vou testar sem ma vontade 1 semana
[00:03] <barna> eu tb queria......
[00:03] <lynxer11> hauhuauhahuahu
[00:05] <nuno_nunes> o debian é lançado de 2 em 2 anos cada versaõ
[00:06] <nuno_nunes> eu uso o kde
[00:07] <barna> pra mim, o ubuntu tb!
[00:07] <nuno_nunes> kde4 no debian e kde 5 no manjaro e opensuse e unity no ubntu
[00:07] <nuno_nunes> ubuntu
[00:07] <nuno_nunes> :D
[03:31] <DaViD_k> Boa noite, qual versão recomendada para estudos a nível de desktop?
[03:34] <astroo-> da sempre uns 15 minutos pela possivel resposta de alguem
[03:34] <astroo-> bem-vindo
[03:35] <KurtKraut> DaViD_k, Sua pergunta me parece muito vaga. Reformule-a.
[03:36] <asdf111> ubuntu 14.04
[03:36] <asdf111> procure no youtube como instala-lo
[03:36] <KurtKraut> ahhh sorry sorry
[03:36] <KurtKraut> DaViD_k, Li errado sua pergunta, é o cansaço. Recomendo fortemente a versão 15.10 em detrimento de qualquer outra.
[03:37] <DaViD_k> KurtKraut: Obrigado!
[03:37] <DaViD_k> asdf111: Obrigado!
[03:37] <asdf111> ok
[03:38] <asdf111> o ubuntu 14.04 var ter um suporte de tempo maior
[03:38] <asdf111> aprenderá mais com ele
[03:38] <asdf111> softwares bem menos bugados
[03:39] <KurtKraut> asdf111, Suporte por tempo maior não é um ganho para um desktop. É, talvez, para um servidor e ainda assim é discutível.
[03:39] <KurtKraut> asdf111, E não há relação entre a versão do Ubuntu e o número de bugs.
[03:39] <DaViD_k> entendo
[03:39] <DaViD_k> Quero começar a difundir em escolas o uso do ubuntu
[03:39] <asdf111> KurtKraut, voce está errado mano
[03:40] <KurtKraut> asdf111, Eu digo o contrário, que você está errado cara :D
[03:40] <asdf111> sempre use distros LTS
[03:40] <KurtKraut> asdf111, Sempre use a versão estável mais recente. Hoje ela é a 15.10.
[03:41] <asdf111> bugada
[03:41] <KurtKraut> asdf111, Uso essa versão em 2 desktops, 3 notebooks e uma dezena de servidores. Bugs que encontrei? Nenhum.
[03:43] <DaViD_k> Senhores, mas, no meu caso a preocupação é: quais softwares vou encontrar para ensinar as pessoas
[03:43] <DaViD_k> se esses softwares vão ter suporte de atualizações por exemplo
[03:43] <DaViD_k> até agora pelo que tenho lido, ubuntu é o melhor
[03:43] <KurtKraut> DaViD_k, você já usou Ubuntu ou apenas quer usar Ubuntu?
[03:45] <asdf111> DaViD_k, recomendo procurar por aulas para iniciantes de ubuntu no youtube
[03:45] <DaViD_k> KurtKraut: Já usei
[03:45] <DaViD_k> KurtKraut: mas, pretendo me aperfeiçoar mais
[03:45] <KurtKraut> DaViD_k, Vou te recomendar algo que parece maluco mas não é: sabe a Central de Programas, onde você lista, baixa e instala os programas?
[03:45] <DaViD_k> sim
[03:46] <KurtKraut> DaViD_k, Lista todos os programas e leia a descrição deles. Conheça todos.
[03:46] <KurtKraut> DaViD_k, Para escolas você achará uns ~200 ou ~300 programas.
[03:46] <DaViD_k> Ou seja: a paciencia vai ser minha melhor ferramenta
[03:46] <KurtKraut> DaViD_k, Tem coisas como simulação de corpos celestes ou softwares para desenhar moléculas de química orgânica.
[03:48] <DaViD_k> Vou me aprofundar ao máximo. Onde moro não existe sequer cursos voltados para linux
[03:48] <DaViD_k> no máximo o tal de administrador de redes linux que ensina o samba, o proxy e acabou
[03:48] <DaViD_k> Mas, pra usuários não existe, não entendo um sistema tão estável
[03:49] <KurtKraut> DaViD_k, Uma coisa é o sucesso tecnológico, outra coisa é o sucesso comercial. São coisas que até costumam andar separadas.
[03:50] <DaViD_k> Realmente
[03:50] <DaViD_k> A difusão do linux para o mercado de profissionais da contabilidade por exemplo
[03:50] <DaViD_k> Atualmente todos os programas da caixa funcionam em linux
[03:50] <DaViD_k> Nota fiscal eletronica também
[03:51] <DaViD_k> Pretendo oferecer isso
[03:51] <KurtKraut> DaViD_k, É uma área que tem altíssima demanda por TI de alta confiabilidade e pouquíssima oferta (de profissionais que atendam, empresas que tragam soluções Linux). É uma visão acertada sua.
[03:52] <DaViD_k> Existe alguma empresa que ofereça cursos online de ubuntu?
[03:52] <DaViD_k> Digo, a nível de certificação
[03:55] <KurtKraut> DaViD_k, online creio que não. Mas sinceramente? Aqui todos são auto-didatas. Se você usar todo o dia, vai aprender como todos nós aprendemos.
[03:58] <DaViD_k> Espero ter êxito
[03:58] <astroo-> ciao pessoal
[03:58] <DaViD_k> astroo-: até mais ver
[03:59] <astroo-> ate
[04:00] <DaViD_k> Espero poder um dia ajudar pessoas aqui
[04:04] <asdf111> DaViD_k, se aparecer muito bug na versão 15.10, não desista do sistema use a 14.04 e seja feliz
[04:04] <DaViD_k> asdf111: O farei
[04:04] <DaViD_k> Não desistirei
[04:04] <DaViD_k> Parei pra pensar e vi que nada me prende ao windows
[04:05] <DaViD_k> e que ninguem aqui onde moro usar linux de verdade
[04:05] <asdf111> não uso windows desde o XP
[04:05] <DaViD_k> Acredito que pelo meu olhar não de técnico mas, de gestor, Ubuntu é uma ferramenta muito poderosa
[04:05] <asdf111> a mais de 10 anos
[04:06] <DaViD_k> E pretendo comercializar isso fortemente
[04:07] <DaViD_k> Não há desculpas pra usar linux hoje em dia
[04:07] <asdf111> com certeza
[04:08] <astroo-> o android e super usado e e linux
[04:09] <asdf111> astroo-, android vai substituir tudo
[04:09] <asdf111> hoje o linux no desktop está morrendo
[04:09] <astroo-> tipo queijo suisso em buraçoes piadao...
[04:09] <asdf111> smartphone e tablets estão em alta
[04:10] <DaViD_k> Cara eu tô tão enjoado de smart que meu sonho é voltar pro lanterninha
[04:11] <asdf111> o que é lanterninha mano ?
[04:13] <asdf111> sou meio velho pra esses palavriados
[04:14] <DaViD_k> Lanterninha: telefone celular Nokia com uma lanterna - Nokia 1100
[04:14] <asdf111> kkkkkkkkkk
[04:15] <DaViD_k> Parceiros, vou me desligar. as 6:00 tem labuta. Nos veremos amanhã pela madrugada.
[04:15] <DaViD_k> Ademais, agradeço pela paciencia de todos
[04:15] <DaViD_k> Espero um dia ajudar o canal
[04:16] <asdf111> falou mano
[11:56] <shallwe> bom dia cabras
[12:39] <shallwe> nossa libre office do ubuntu 14.04 é o 4.2 antigasso!
[12:42] <shallwe> sorte que com 1 comando atualizo pro último :)
[12:43] <shallwe> e depois ainda dizem que linux é complicado kkkk, de onde que com 1 linha de comando eu instalo um pacote office completo que abre tudo, word, excel e até arquivos do Corel !!!
[13:04] <eloi_carneiro> shallwe, a versão 5 veio com um monte de recurso interessante
[13:04] <eloi_carneiro> shallwe, que tinha apenas no office 2010 pra frente se não me engano
[13:05] <shallwe> eloi_carneiro, pois é estava achando estranho,e stava tão diferente kkk, ai vi que era o 4.2
[13:06] <shallwe> mas já atualizei, muito fácil um office completo com 120mb de download!
[13:07] <shallwe> o mais incrível que foi por acaso, descobri que ele abre arquivos do corel draw kkk, e é quase perfeito! muito mais que inkscape, já me serve um monte, pelo menos pra visualizar o que preciso que vem dos clientes, maravilha
[13:11] <lynxer10> bom dia shallwe
[13:12] <lynxer10> blza?
[13:12] <lynxer10> bom dia galera
[13:12] <lynxer10> hmm tenho que atualizar o meu
[13:13] <lynxer10> ta com a versao velha. galera ta indo de boas ate o momento o debian gracas a ajuda de voces obviamente. otimo ter achado esse canal apesar do operador pegar no meu pe uhauhauhauhauh
[13:14] <lynxer10> :)
[13:14] <shallwe> bom dia
[13:16] <shallwe> estamos aí :)
[13:44] <lynxer10> :)
[13:49] <gonda> ol
[14:54] <nuno_nunes> boa tarde a todos
[14:54] <nuno_nunes> alguem precisa de suporte
[14:55] <Creto> hehe eu preciso saber porque o kubuntu lts não procura novos wallpapers pelas configurações de área de trabalho
[14:55] <MerliM> kkkkkkkkkk
[14:56] <nuno_nunes> lol
[14:56] <MerliM> kubuntu mal
[14:56] <MerliM> opa MAU*
[14:56] <nuno_nunes> o kde as vezes faz isso
[14:56] <nuno_nunes> já a mim me acontece isso
[14:56] <MerliM> kde MAU*
[14:57] <MerliM> Creto, eu baixo os meus em pacotes mesmo e qualidade HD
[14:57] <nuno_nunes> MerliM: o kde tem umas configs maradas e o gnome para mim é bem pior
[14:58] <Creto> também concordo nuno_nunes
[14:58] <MerliM> nuno_nunes, tb acho nao utilizo nenhum dos 2 se bem que acho o kde lindo porem BIG VERY BIG
[14:58] <MerliM> o gnome uso o gnome-shell no meu dell
[14:58] <MerliM> que nao estou nem usando por falta de sua fonte que queimou :(
[14:59] <nuno_nunes> desde que o gnome passou do 2 para o 3 eu não gostei
[14:59] <MerliM> idem
[14:59] <MerliM> porem deixei o meu super leve e com poucos e uteis complementos, so que se for para realmente usar algo no nivel de WM com suporte a icones pastas e barras
[15:00] <MerliM> prefiro o xfce, lxde ou mate
[15:00] <nuno_nunes> eu já usei kde 1, 2, 3, 4 e 5 e gnome 1, 2 e (3 não gostei), windowmaker, xfce, icewm, openbox
[15:00] <MerliM> os outros acho lindo de se ve
[15:00] <nuno_nunes> o mate ou fork do gnome 2 é a mesma coisa
[15:00] <MerliM> ahahuhaua so
[15:00] <MerliM> nuno_nunes, sim sim por isso citei ele
[15:00] <MerliM> nuno_nunes, kde pra mim ficou bom do 4 ...
[15:01] <MerliM> antes credo horrivel
[15:01] <MerliM> ahuahuahua
[15:01] <nuno_nunes> errado
[15:01] <MerliM> o 3 era usavel porem horrivel a organizacao do desktop
[15:01] <nuno_nunes> o kde 3 era bem estavel
[15:01] <MerliM> nuno_nunes, cabei de explicar
[15:01] <nuno_nunes> o kde 4 quando saiu era uma bosta
[15:01] <MerliM> concordo
[15:01] <nuno_nunes> só as ultimas versões é eram boas
[15:02] <MerliM> mudou o designer surgiram bugs
[15:02] <nuno_nunes> eu uso o kde 4 no debian, manjaro e opensuse kde 5 e ubuntu unity
[15:02] <MerliM> bem nenhum deles me faz falta
[15:02] <MerliM> :D
[15:02] <nuno_nunes> eu tenho 4 linux e windows 10
[15:03] <nuno_nunes> :D
[15:03] <MerliM> w10 so vejo os dos clientes
[15:04] <nuno_nunes> MerliM: ha um programa para bloquear tudo o que microsft envia :D
[15:05] <MerliM> name please meus clientes vao agradecer
[15:05] <MerliM> nao preciso de windows pelo menos nao pra meu uso
[15:05] <nuno_nunes> veja o seu privado
[15:06] <nuno_nunes> eu não estou no meu pc
[15:06] <nuno_nunes> :)
[15:07] <nuno_nunes> estou a usar uma net fibra de 100 mbits
[15:07] <MerliM> Wowwww
[15:08] <nuno_nunes> o que foi
[15:08] <nuno_nunes> vê isto: http://www.speedtest.net/my-result/4839875992
[15:11] <nuno_nunes> MerliM: o que dizes
[15:14] <nuno_nunes> MerliM: estas ai
[15:16] <MerliM> sim esotu
[15:16] <MerliM> pera ai man vou olhar
[15:17] <nuno_nunes> a fazer um download de 7 Gb a 11 mb/s
[15:17] <nuno_nunes> :D
[15:23] <MerliM> vixiii sonho aqui
[15:23] <MerliM> no maranhao
[15:23] <MerliM> aqui faco download de 4.5 a 1 - 1.5 mb/s
[15:23] <MerliM> sou um homem realizado
[15:23] <nuno_nunes> viste a velocidade
[15:23] <nuno_nunes> do servidor
[15:23] <nuno_nunes> :D
[15:27] <MerliM> banhar 40 graus eh phodaaaaa
[15:28] <nuno_nunes> aqui estao 20 graus
[15:29] <shallwe> nuno_nunes, a sim vc é de portugal?
[15:29] <nuno_nunes> sim sou
[15:29] <nuno_nunes> vê isto
[15:29] <nuno_nunes> https://www.meteoblue.com/pt/tempo/previsao/semana/armadouro_portugal_2742733
[15:30] <shallwe> então é por isso que tens essa velocidade de internet :)
[15:30] <nuno_nunes> essa velocidade é de um espaço net publico :D
[15:31] <nuno_nunes> pk aqui neste ponto tem fibra
[15:31] <nuno_nunes> e onde moro não tem
[15:31] <nuno_nunes> :D
[15:31] <nuno_nunes> a velocidade la é de 2 a 4 mb/s
[15:31] <nuno_nunes> D:
[15:33] <nuno_nunes> eu estou a ver um serviço de internet por satelite
[15:36] <MerliM> topp
[15:37] <MerliM> publico ahauhauaha aqui nunca seraaa kkk
[16:45] <lynxer10> boa tarde nuno
[16:47] <lynxer10> auhuhauhauha quase 100 megs/s
[16:48] <lynxer10> nunca sera mesmo
[16:49] <elisboa> tarde
[16:50] <lynxer10> tarde
[16:55] <shallwe> boa tarde
[17:04] <Eduardo> Boa Tarde. preciso de uma ajudinha. cancei da bosta do windows e estou pensando em formatar meu computador e instalar o linux
[17:04] <Eduardo> porem estou completamente perdido.
[17:04] <Eduardo> alguém poderia me ajudar?
[17:06] <shallwe> Eduardo, boa tarde
[17:06] <shallwe> mas calma, não precisa xingar kkkk
[17:07] <shallwe> vc já acessou o site ubuntu.com?
[17:07] <Eduardo> acessei sim. até cheguei a baixar o Ubuntu
[17:07] <Eduardo> porem estou com duvidas em versão
[17:07] <shallwe> Eduardo, blz, baixou o 14.04 ou o 15.10?
[17:08] <shallwe> tem 2 versões de ubuntu, uma versão que é mais estável e suportada por mais tempo as versões LTS
[17:08] <Eduardo> acredito que foi o 14.10 pois é o que o site oferece logo na pagina inicial
[17:08] <lynxer10> boa tarde
[17:08] <shallwe> é a 14.04, e depois sairá a 16.04, ano que vem, as de mais são versões medianas, que tem novidades entre as versões LTS
[17:08] <shallwe> Eduardo, a 14.10 não vale mais
[17:09] <shallwe> tem que baixar na ubuntu.com o site do brasil ta desatualizado
[17:09] <shallwe> eu recomendo pra você que está começando a 14.04
[17:09] <Eduardo> 32 ou 64 bits?
[17:09] <shallwe> Eduardo, qual a configuração do seu pc?
[17:10] <Eduardo> hoje é um Windows7 I5 32bits
[17:10] <shallwe> e tem quanto de ram?
[17:10] <Eduardo> um momento vou conferir aqui
[17:11] <Eduardo> 4GB
[17:11] <elisboa> Eduardo: não faça isso
[17:11] <shallwe> Eduardo, 64bit
[17:11] <elisboa> Eduardo: use um live pendrive até se habituar; quando o fizer, aí sim formate e instale o Linux
[17:11] <shallwe> ubuntu 14.04 64bit
[17:11] <shallwe> elisboa, calma o cara nem fez nada ainda kkk
[17:12] <elisboa> Eduardo: Paliativamente, você pode rodar o Ubuntu como máquina virtual do VirtualBox ou do VMWare, mas não é muito rápido.
[17:12] <elisboa> shallwe: eu tou calmo; e você? :)
[17:12] <Eduardo> kkk calma gente.
[17:12] <shallwe> elisboa, tb :) já tomei meu chá de camomila
[17:12] <shallwe> Eduardo, então, chega lá no ubuntu.com e baixa ubuntu pra desktop 14.04 64bit
[17:12] <Eduardo> eu tenho dois computadores. então estou pensando em usar o linux em um
[17:13] <elisboa> Eduardo: perfeito
[17:13] <shallwe> Eduardo, deixa eu te perguntar uma coisa, vc quer ficar com o windows ou quer tirar ele?
[17:14] <Eduardo> a principio pensei em particionar, porem depois eu refleti melhor e acredito que vou tirar o windows e ficar só com o linux na maquina de casa.
[17:14] <shallwe> Eduardo, vc usa algum programa do windows?
[17:15] <shallwe> pra trabalho etc?
[17:16] <Eduardo> Uso... mas uso no Note que ainda continuará com windows.
[17:16] <elisboa> Eduardo: é melhor instalar só o Linux mesmo, a instalação para quem não tem experiência é mais rápida e fácil
[17:16] <shallwe> Eduardo, sim se não vai ficar com nada do windows pode instalar ele inteiro no hd mesmo
[17:17] <shallwe> Eduardo, então, baixa lá a iso primeiro e depois separa o pendrive
[17:17] <Eduardo> beleza... bem entrei na pagina e lá na parte de baixar. tem o 10.04.3
[17:17] <Eduardo> seria esse para baixar e instalar?
[17:17] <shallwe> Eduardo, como vc deve estar no windows
[17:17] <shallwe> Eduardo, http://www.ubuntu.com/download/desktop/create-a-usb-stick-on-windows
[17:17] <shallwe> olha este link, ai tem o programa que irá usar pra gravar a iso no pendrive
[17:18] <shallwe> versão 14.04.3 64bit isso mesmo
[17:18] <Eduardo> Beleza... eu comprei um DVD para gerar o disco... estou sem Pen-drive disponivel....
[17:18] <Eduardo> rsss
[17:19] <shallwe> Eduardo, então é só gravar a iso no dvd com um programa qualquer pra windows
[17:19] <shallwe> claro que não é só arrastar a iso kk ai é com vc pra gravar isso no dvd
[17:21] <Eduardo> a pagina está traduzindo e deixando o texto confuso.
[17:22] <Eduardo> não é só baixar e gavar o arquivo baixado no cd?
[17:22] <Eduardo> o céus... rss
[17:22] <shallwe> Eduardo, como vc vai usar dvd é só gravar a iso
[17:22] <shallwe> não precisa baixar o programa do link que te passei
[17:22] <shallwe> Eduardo, vc não entende inglês?
[17:22] <asdf111> Eduardo, procure videos no ubuntu de como grava-lo no cd
[17:23] <Eduardo> beleza vou procurar aqui...
[17:23] <asdf111> no youtube
[17:23] <shallwe> Eduardo, mas é bem fácil baixa o 14.04.3 64bit, grava no dvd e só dar o boot
[17:23] <shallwe> instalar é fácil só ir seguindo não tem erro
[17:24] <Eduardo> beleza..
[17:25] <lynxer10> seu pc e um i5 com 4 gb de ram?
[17:31] <lynxer10> deu ruim
[18:25] <barna> hggdh, vc sabe quem mantem o ubuntu-br.org? lá ta pra download o 14.10, geral entrando aki tentando instalar ele.
[18:25] <shallwe> barna, a pessoa que cuida do site com senhas etc sumiu
[18:25] <shallwe> não tem como mudar nada kkk
[18:26] <barna> woloko!!! tem como derrubar esse site não?
[18:26] <shallwe> o hggdh já andou atrás deles mas não tem jeito
[18:26] <shallwe> barna, acho que não né, tem o forum lá
[18:27] <hggdh> barna: desde que o 15.04 sai estou atrás dos responsáveis.
[18:28] <hggdh> a mim não me dão acesso porque existem "responsáveis" registrados.
[18:28] <hggdh> (a bem da verdade, não quero este acesso)
[18:29] <hggdh> não posso pertencer ao conselho Brasil por não morar no Brasil (adicionado ao facto de ser americano)
[18:30] <barna> putz, valeu mano.
[19:56] <shallwe> desliguei swap e o ubuntu ficou mais rápido kkkk
[19:56] <shallwe> não tem pq ter swap com 8gb ram
[19:57] <asdf111> shallwe, swap estraga o hd mais rapidamente
[19:58] <asdf111> pior seria se usar se swap em ssd
[19:58] <asdf111> não dura 1 ano
[19:58] <shallwe> asdf111, na realidade eu deixei ele pq penso que ele é utilizado quando acaba a Ram mas não, mesmo com 8gb ele ocupa swap
[19:58] <shallwe> isso que tenho mais da metade ainda de RAM livre, vai entender o.O
[19:59] <asdf111> tenho somente 2 gb e nem uso swap
[19:59] <asdf111> o linux gerencia muito bem a ram
[20:00] <shallwe> asdf111, pois é, como tenho esse hd a tempos e já tenho essa partição de swap a anos então ele acaba usando
[20:00] <shallwe> mas vou desligar isso
[20:01] <asdf111> uso aqui um atom 450 com 2 gb de ram e nunca precisei de swap
[20:02] <asdf111> e ainda compilo kernel com ele
[20:02] <shallwe> pra ti ver :)
[20:02] <shallwe> acho que se eu deletar a partição ele deve parar
[20:02] <shallwe> pra eu nao ficar digitando o comando toda vida
[20:02] <asdf111> só formata-la como ext4
[20:03] <shallwe> sim
[20:03] <asdf111> não precisa deleta-la
[20:03] <shallwe> é, na realidade deletar seria isso :) formatar etc
[20:03] <asdf111> entendi
[20:13] <shallwe> ta um ssd esse meu hd kkk, devia ter feito isso a muito tempo
[20:14] <asdf111> kkkkkk
[20:15] <asdf111> swap força muito o hd
[20:16] <shallwe> mais tarde vou comprar um ssd pro note
[20:16] <shallwe> e teoricamente quando acaba a ram o que o linx faz? um arquivo temporário igual o windows?
[20:16] <asdf111> o ssd aumenta quase 50 % a velocidade so sistema
[20:17] <asdf111> shallwe, ele fecha aplicateivos abertos
[20:17] <asdf111> faça um teste ae
[20:18] <lynxer10> 50%? O meu ficou tão rápido mAs tão rápido que parece que foi muito mais
[20:18] <shallwe> vixi não tenho como testar, nunca vi ele executar mais que 7gb kkk
[20:18] <asdf111> abra tudo que é programa de sua maquina ao mesmo tempo
[20:18] <shallwe> acho que nem abrindo tudo
[20:18] <asdf111> lynxer10, deve ser isso mesmo
[20:19] <lynxer10> Mudou totalmente minhas máquinas
[20:20] <asdf111> lynxer10, depois faça um teste de compilação de kernel ae, e veja se á difereça
[20:21] <lynxer10> Boa ideia . Farei um teste porque por questão de boot ficou quase que instantâneo como se o PC tivesse hibernando
[20:23] <plush> lynxer10: quantos segundos pro boot?
[20:24] <shallwe> DDR3 de 1.600 MHz: 25.000 MB/s - SSD SATA III: 580 MB/s - HD SATA III: 140 MB/s
[20:24] <shallwe> vou ainda montar um hd só com ram e uma bateria :)
[20:25] <asdf111> shallwe, é só usar via livecd
[20:25] <asdf111> fica tudo na ram
[20:25] <lynxer10> Cara não cronometrei mas aparece o logo do PC e logo aparece a tela de login
[20:26] <lynxer10> Posso cronometrar quando chegar em casa mas seguramente poucos segundos de boot
[20:26] <shallwe> asdf111, pois é o ubuntu antigamente no boot tinha uma opção de rodar na ram, agora não tem mais
[20:26] <plush> lynxer10: ou fazer um systemd-analyze no terminal
[20:26] <plush> :)
[20:26] <lynxer10> Hahahahahah sim ou isso :p
[20:27] <asdf111> shallwe, uso o um trisquel aqui remasterizado, só uso via livecd quase não utilizo hd
[20:27] <asdf111> usei o remastersys para cria-lo
[20:27] <shallwe> asdf111, interessante e tens quanto de ram?
[20:28] <asdf111> só 2 gb da maquina, via livecd sobra quase 900 mb de ram livre
[20:29] <shallwe> a ta
[20:29] <shallwe> só no google chrome aqui vai quase 1giga kkk
[20:30] <asdf111> me /cow está marcando 1 gb e 560 mb livres
[20:30] <asdf111> mas já instalei varios programas
[20:31] <asdf111> o /cow se nenhuma instalação fica com 900 mb
[20:32] <asdf111> isso com 2 gb de ram
[20:32] <asdf111> se tive 8 gb de ram, vai sobrar muito mais espaço
[20:33] <shallwe> interessante https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D18DUlLD1x4
[20:33] <shallwe> firefox no ramdisk :)
[20:33] <asdf111> acredito que vai ficar com 7 gb livres para instalar o que quiser
[20:33] <asdf111> vou ver
[20:34] <shallwe> na realidade ram é pra ser usada mesmo
[20:38] <asdf111> eeeé abrei muito mais rápido mesmo
[20:39] <shallwe> asdf111, oq a dica do youtube?
[20:39] <asdf111> isso
[20:39] <shallwe> a ta não testei
[20:39] <asdf111> só que ele usou lá o tmpfs
[20:39] <asdf111> prefiro usar o /dev/shm
[20:40] <asdf111> que já é montado automaticamente
[20:41] <asdf111> acredito que usar o sistema via livecd não precisaria dessa dica não
[20:41] <asdf111> já é tudo carregado somente na ram
[20:41] <shallwe> asdf111, é verdade
[20:42] <shallwe> realmente no pc só falta isso, hd a única peça mecânica, mesmo sendo ssd poderia ser mais rápido
[20:42] <shallwe> acho que ele não é mais rápido pelo barramento da placa mãe sei lá, mas deveria
[20:43] <nuno_nunes> boa noite
[20:43] <nuno_nunes> alguem está a precisar de suporte
[20:43] <asdf111> quando aparecer os discos feito de PCM ae sim vai ficar uma maravilha
[20:44] <asdf111> é uma memoria muito mais rápida que o sssd
[20:44] <asdf111> e de maior durabilidade
[20:45] <nuno_nunes> discos de pcm
[20:45] <nuno_nunes> ????
[20:45] <shallwe> asdf111, e o mais importante, não pode ser caro pq ssd maior que 128gb é sonho kkk
[20:45] <shallwe> nuno_nunes, claro, no que vc precisa de suporte?
[20:45] <nuno_nunes> um disco de 1000 gb ssd custam 500 euros na alemanha
[20:45] <nuno_nunes> :D
[20:45] <asdf111> nuno_nunes, hds com tecnologia PCM, procura isso no wikipeida
[20:46] <nuno_nunes> os hds normais estao a ir ao ar
[20:46] <nuno_nunes> :D
[20:46] <shallwe> nuno_nunes, claro 500 euros até pode ser barato pra eles, que o salário deve ser mais que isso, agora com 800 pila nao compro um ssd de 1tb kkkdeve
[20:47] <nuno_nunes> eu estou com hd 1 tb no meu pc
[20:47] <asdf111> um ssd de 60 gb aqui no brasil já é muito caro pra mim
[20:47] <shallwe> mas vc é de portugal
[20:47] <shallwe> nós somos aqui do brasil :(
[20:47] <nuno_nunes> aqui é tudo caro :S
[20:47] <shallwe> o antigo rei de vcs sugou nosso ouro kkkk ta tudo com vcs! nem inventa coisa que ai ta caro
[20:48] <asdf111> shallwe, kkkkkk
[20:48] <jaqent> lol
[20:48] <nuno_nunes> sabes quanto se ganha em portugal :S
[20:48] <shallwe> qual salario de euros ai?
[20:48] <nuno_nunes> 515 euros
[20:48] <shallwe> claro que tem a crise europeia, alias global agora
[20:49] <shallwe> nuno_nunes, e se usa muito ubuntu por ai?
[20:49] <nuno_nunes> e depois tiram segurança social e recebes menos de 500 euros
[20:49] <nuno_nunes> :D
[20:49] <nuno_nunes> eu não sei
[20:49] <nuno_nunes> eu uso ubuntu mas pouco
[20:49] <nuno_nunes> :d
[20:49] <nuno_nunes> já volto
[20:49] <jaqent> nuno_nunes: quando o salário mínio de portugal for 194 EUR (mais o menos o mínio do brasil convertido) a gente conversa sobre preço
[20:50] <shallwe> jaqent, mas o custo de vida eles é alto isso conta, mas ai sai muito fora do tópico :)
[20:50] <asdf111> jaqent, kkkkkkk
[20:50] <shallwe> não basta só converter
[20:50] <jaqent> shallwe: aqui tb pode ser alto depende onde se mora.
[20:50] <lynxer10> Topic: custo de vida em Portugal
[20:51] <lynxer10> Hahahahahahahah
[20:51] <jaqent> lynxer10: pois é :D
[20:52] <lynxer10> :)
[20:52] <shallwe> eu quero saber se tem como eu deixar a borda desse ubuntu 14.04 igual a do 15.10 :) sem essa coisa feia que aparece quando passo o mouse em cima
[20:52] <shallwe> borda onde eu rolo a tela
[20:53] <shallwe> foi muito bom, mas quando se usa inkscape ou algum aplicativo com vários ícones pequenos que tem que clicar fica aquela cosia chata
[20:54] <shallwe> já resolvi kkk
[20:54] <shallwe> "gsettings set com.canonical.desktop.interface scrollbar-mode normal"
[21:04] <c0rleone> qual a melhor maneira de embarelhar uma lista de emails por ex usando o sort?
[21:09] <jaqent> c0rleone: depende. Um monte de coisa por influenciar nesse caso, formato da lista, tamanho da lista só pra mencionar alguns
[21:10] <jaqent> c0rleone: mas respondendo com o que vc deixou disponível, sort vc usa pra organizar os itens. Se quer embaralhar tenta o shuf
[21:11] <jaqent> :(
[21:14] <nuno_nunes> boa noite
[21:14] <nuno_nunes> :D
[21:17] <nuno_nunes> alguem está a precisar de suporte
[22:00] <nuno_nunes> alguem esta com duvidas :D
[22:03] <asdf111> nuno_nunes, manja de programação tambem ou só sabe linux mesmo ?
[22:05] <nuno_nunes> programação só um pouco de pascal
[22:06] <asdf111> nuno_nunes, então eu queria saber como faço para pegar uma maquina virtual linux do kvm e transplantar para uma partição linux real ?
[22:09] <nuno_nunes> isso não sei
[22:09] <nuno_nunes> já tentou o suporte da suse
[22:09] <nuno_nunes> sala errada
[22:09] <asdf111> beleza entaão
[22:09] <asdf111> valeu
[22:09] <jaqent> pq suse?
[22:10] <asdf111> nuno_nunes, faço isso só com o dd mano
[22:10] <asdf111> em menos de 2 horas dependendo do processador
[22:10] <nuno_nunes> jaqent, as maquninas virtuais kvm são suse
[22:10] <nuno_nunes> :D
[22:10] <jaqent> acho que eu perdi essa parte da conversa :s
[22:10] <asdf111> nuno_nunes, kvm é maquina virtual do kernel linux
[22:11] <shallwe> quero saber como rodar league of legends no ubuntu, ai me sobra o windows que ta instalado só pra isso
[22:11] <asdf111> tem em todas as distros
[22:11] <asdf111> shallwe, tenta o wine novo
[22:11] <jaqent> shallwe: LoL não roda pelo wine? TInha quase certeza que rodava...
[22:11] <nuno_nunes> shallwe, já tentou via wine
[22:12] <jaqent> asdf111: então eu não bebi... vc nunca disse que as máquinas eram suse?
[22:12] <shallwe> pois é nunca tentei kkk como não é pra mim mesmo, mas tem um hd inteiro no windows só pra rodar esse troço desperdício
[22:12] <asdf111> jaqent, não entendi
[22:12] <asdf111> as maquinas são trisquel linux
[22:13] <asdf111> maquinas virtuais
[22:13] <asdf111> entende
[22:13] <jaqent> asdf111: era isso mesmo minha pergunta :)
[22:13] <nuno_nunes> asdf111, o trisquel não é aqui
[22:13] <nuno_nunes> aqui é ubuntu
[22:13] <asdf111> nuno_nunes, trisquel é baseado em ubuntu
[22:14] <asdf111> é a mesma coisa, mas sem os blobs
[22:14] <nuno_nunes> baseado não quer dizer que e puro
[22:14] <nuno_nunes> o trisquel não usa kernel do ubuntu
[22:14] <nuno_nunes> :D
[22:15] <asdf111> nuno_nunes, você tem que estudar linux um pouco mais mano
[22:15] <asdf111> tá muito vago o que voce sabe sobre linux
[22:15] <nuno_nunes> o triquel usa kernel com componentes free e o non free foi tirado pelo programador
[22:16] <nuno_nunes> e esse é aprovado pela fundação do linux
[22:17] <nuno_nunes> asdf111, o ubuntu é baseado no debian e vais a perdir suporte a debian e eles descartam-te :d
[22:17] <nuno_nunes> sabias
[22:19] <shallwe> nuno_nunes, eles não te ajudam no debian pq é recalque :) uma derivação de debian tem mais comunidade que ela própria e muito mais distribuição, o que vc esperava kkkk
[22:19] <asdf111> nuno_nunes, kkkkkkkkkkk
[22:19] <asdf111> eles nunca me descartaram mano
[22:19] <nuno_nunes> eu prefiro o debian ao unbuntu
[22:19] <nuno_nunes> no br nao entao vai ao ingles
[22:19] <nuno_nunes> :D
[22:20] <shallwe> não entendo, se eu instalar o ubuntu 15.10 gnome 3, e instalar o debian 8.2 pra mim é a mesma coisa
[22:20] <shallwe> não muda nada pro usuário final
[22:20] <nuno_nunes> shallwe, veja se app é compativel com wine : aqui https://appdb.winehq.org/
[22:20] <asdf111> shallwe, verdade
[22:20] <nuno_nunes> shallwe, o ubuntu 15.10 tem suporte reduzido
[22:21] <nuno_nunes> :D
[22:21] <jaqent> não sei pq o pessoal encana com suporte reduzido
[22:21] <lynxer10x> shuauhahuahua
[22:21] <jaqent> o 16.04 sai antes de acabar o suporte do 15.10
[22:21] <jaqent> só continua indo pra frente e seja feliz
[22:21] <lynxer10x> isso e verdade jaq
[22:22] <shallwe> nuno_nunes, verdade o league of legends é gold no wine :) minha patroa vai comer na minha mão agora, vou instalar isso no ubuntu
[22:22] <asdf111> jaqent, verdade mano
[22:22] <jaqent> até o tópico do canal mudou
[22:22] <jaqent> "Ubuntu 15.10 liberado e recomendado para todos"
[22:22] <jaqent> :D
[22:22] <lynxer10x> huauhaua nem tinha notado para ser sinceto
[22:22] <astroo-> ola pessoal
[22:22] <lynxer10x> *r
[22:22] <lynxer10x> fala astroo
[22:22] <nuno_nunes> as versões não lts só tem suporte de 9 meses quando antes era de 18 meses e as versões lts eram de 3 anos e agora é de 5 anos
[22:22] <shallwe> vai nessa recomendados pra todos
[22:23] <nuno_nunes> a proxima versão lts é a 16.04
[22:23] <shallwe> perdi meu ubuntu fazendo um upgrade pro 15.10 kkk
[22:23] <shallwe> e isso que era ubuntu 15.05
[22:23] <shallwe> 15.04
[22:23] <nuno_nunes> a recomendada é 14.04
[22:23] <jaqent> shallwe: qual seria a graça se isso não acontecesse
[22:23] <jaqent> nuno_nunes: o KurtKraut discorda disso
[22:24] <jaqent> eu acho... já que ele que trocou o tópico XD
[22:24] <asdf111> jaqent, o nuno_nunes está correto mano
[22:24] <asdf111> a recomendada é sempre lts
[22:24] <shallwe> asdf111, mas sempre foi a lts
[22:24] <nuno_nunes> ve o tópico
[22:25] <nuno_nunes> [#ubuntu-br] ATENÇÃO: 14.10 foi descontinuada. Use a 14.04.3 (iniciantes), ou a 15.10 (suporte até Julho 2016), ou a 16.04 (em desenvolvimento, se é o desejo viver perigosamente)
[22:25] <shallwe> só que se todo mundo usar lts pra sempre, nunca teremos um ubuntu lts realmente bom :)
[22:25] <asdf111> nunca recomende para usuarios novatos distros não lts
[22:25] <jaqent> isso não é o tópico é um notice :x
[22:25] <asdf111> tem muitos bugs nelas
[22:25] <shallwe> pq quem irá testar as versões intermediárias?
[22:25] <shallwe> pra virar lts?
[22:26] <jaqent> shallwe: é um bom ponto
[22:26] <nuno_nunes> o debian muda de versão de 2 em 2 anos
[22:26] <asdf111> as lts são bem mais seguras
[22:26] <shallwe> eu só não estou usando a 15.10 pq o kernel 4.2 não suporta drive proprietário da ati radeon
[22:26] <shallwe> então voltei pra 14.04
[22:26] <shallwe> antes estava usando a 15.04 e muito bem
[22:26] <jaqent> shallwe: sofrido isso
[22:26] <shallwe> fiz upgrade e cagou kkkk
[22:26] <nuno_nunes> shallwe, nem o kernel 4.3 não da :D
[22:27] <shallwe> acho que não já tem o 4.4 e nada ainda
[22:27] <nuno_nunes> nao tem kernel 4.4
[22:27] <shallwe> ati não tem muito interesse, já que o interesse deles máximo seria steam machine, que usa um kernel inferior ao 4
[22:27] <shallwe> nuno_nunes, http://br-linux.org/2015/01/as-novidades-do-kernel-linux-44-kernel-graficos-no-raspberry-pi-volante-do-ps4-e-mais.html
[22:28] <asdf111> nuno_nunes, ja tem kernel 4.4 sim, basta compila-lo
[22:28] <asdf111> 4.4 rc1
[22:28] <nuno_nunes> mas o kernel 4.4 é beta e não é recomendado :D
[22:28] <shallwe> sim é beta por isso que nem testei ta louco
[22:28] <asdf111> nuno_nunes, tem que ser compilado mano
[22:29] <nuno_nunes> mas ficas ferrado
[22:29] <asdf111> nuno_nunes, nem tanto mano
[22:29] <nuno_nunes> o kernel 4.4 está programado para sair em 2016
[22:29] <asdf111> é bom que voce ajuda no debug dele
[22:30] <nuno_nunes> tem muitos erros
[22:30] <asdf111> e mostra seus bugs
[22:30] <nuno_nunes> mas eu uso ati não instalo :|
[22:30] <nuno_nunes> pk fico sem grafica
[22:30] <nuno_nunes> :D
[22:31] <asdf111> nuno_nunes, é so usar o modulo padrão da ati do kernel
[22:31] <nuno_nunes> o modo free não é grande coisa com o opengl :|
[22:31] <shallwe> asdf111, padrão funciona mas acho desperdício ter uma radeon 7850 usando drive opensouce
[22:31] <asdf111> nada de isnstalar drives proprietarios
[22:31] <shallwe> é como ter uma ferrari e dirigir em SP com ela
[22:32] <asdf111> shallwe, kkkkkkkkkkkkk
[22:32] <shallwe> se bem que o Maluf anda de ferrari né kkk
[22:32] <nuno_nunes> eu tenho uma grafica 6320 hd
[22:32] <asdf111> as vezes é verdade mesmo
[22:32] <nuno_nunes> ati radeon 6320 hd
[22:33] <nuno_nunes> o ubuntu mesmo com o modulo free aquece nas horas e gasta muita memoria
[22:33] <nuno_nunes> :D
[22:34] <shallwe> drive open é bom pra quebra galho
[22:34] <shallwe> mas não tem pq vc comprar um produto e usar um software que não aproveita ele não acha?
[22:34] <shallwe> hoje testei metro last night redux no steam pra ver como fica e rodou perfeito, mesma comparação que o windows
[22:34] <shallwe> drive proprietário claro
[22:35] <nuno_nunes> eu tenho jogos via wine e com a grafica sem o modulo ati da erro
[22:35] <nuno_nunes> fica lento :D
[22:35] <shallwe> se for pra ficar lento então vou testar xadrez
[22:36] <nuno_nunes> Euro Truck Simulator 2
[22:36] <nuno_nunes> :D
[22:36] <nuno_nunes> via wine
[22:37] <shallwe> não sei o que é isso :) eu não jogo muito, só testei esse pq tava na conta do steam :)
[22:37] <nuno_nunes> esse esta na steam mas é pago
[22:37] <nuno_nunes> e eu tenho crakado :D
[22:38] <nuno_nunes> só tenho um jogo que só roda no windows
[22:39] <jaqent> nuno_nunes: cuida com as regras de não mencionar pirataria no canal :x
[22:40] <nuno_nunes> lol
[22:40] <nuno_nunes> lool
[22:40] <nuno_nunes> eu jogo muito metin2
[22:40] <nuno_nunes> :D
[22:41] <jxajro> Alo boa noite amigos!!!!
[22:41] <jaqent> jxajro: boa noite o/
[22:41] <jxajro> quem pode me ajudar a achar o Criar lançador no Ubuntu 14.04???
[22:41] <jxajro> Opa..tudo bom jaqent!
[22:42] <nuno_nunes> criar lançador como
[22:42] <jxajro> Nossa cara como to apanhando por besteira nao acho o create launcher de jeito nenhum aqui.
[22:42] <nuno_nunes> criar programa
[22:42] <jxajro> http://www.tecnologiabasica.com.br/2013/05/criando-atalhos-de-aplicativos-no.html
[22:42] <astroo-> ola
[22:42] <jxajro> To virando a internet de cabeça pra baixo e chacoalando e não consigo achar o lançador
[22:43] <jxajro> Esse aí do site
[22:43] <jxajro> eu sei que é uma besteira...mas deu um branco aqui que está me deixando desanimado :-(
[22:44] <nuno_nunes> estas a criar algum programa
[22:45] <nuno_nunes> isso é para gnome lol
[22:45] <nuno_nunes> :D
[22:45] <nuno_nunes> tens que usar isto
[22:45] <nuno_nunes> sudo gnome-desktop-item-edit /usr/share/applications/ --create-
[22:46] <jxajro> então nuno...eu abro exatamente isso...perai...deixa eu tentar do jeito que vc indicou
[22:46] <nuno_nunes> mas tens que instalar o componente
[22:47] <nuno_nunes> sudo apt-get install gnome-desktop-item-edit
[22:47] <jxajro> http://www.tecnologiabasica.com.br/2013/05/criando-atalhos-de-aplicativos-no.html
[22:47] <jxajro> Opção --create- desconhecida
[22:47] <jxajro> jxajro@jxajro-ThinkCentre-M57e:~$ ^C
[22:47] <jxajro> jxajro@jxajro-ThinkCentre-M57e:~$
[22:47] <nuno_nunes> faz o que escrevi
[22:48] <jxajro> então eu fiz. Olha aí a resposta
[22:48] <nuno_nunes> eu nao uso gnome
[22:48] <nuno_nunes> :S
[22:48] <jxajro> então eu já instalei, acredita? Até criei um lançador legal pra uma calculadora mas agora não acho mais o programinha
[22:48] <nuno_nunes> lol
[22:48] <jxajro> não usa? ok
[22:48] <nuno_nunes> nao
[22:49] <nuno_nunes> que sistema usas
[22:49] <jxajro> ubuntu 14.04
[22:50] <nuno_nunes> unity ou gnome
[22:53] <jxajro> acho que é gnome
[22:53] <jxajro> como eu sei?
[22:53] <nuno_nunes> tens a barra latertal
[22:53] <nuno_nunes> com o menu dash
[22:54] <jxajro> sim..exatamente essa mesmo.
[22:55] <nuno_nunes> então é o unity
[22:55] <nuno_nunes> já tentou procurar no menu dash
[22:55] <jxajro> perai..
[22:56] <jxajro> é este aqui
[22:56] <jxajro> http://www.webupd8.org/2014/03/ubuntu-1404-trusty-tahr-final-beta.html
[22:56] <jxajro> quero chamar aquele programa create launcher
[22:56] <jxajro> ou criar lançador
[22:58] <nuno_nunes> eu disse se tentou procurar um lançador no menu dash
[22:58] <jxajro> sim tentei
[22:58] <nuno_nunes> pelo nome do programa
[22:58] <jxajro> joguei tudo que é nome
[22:58] <jxajro> mas ele não aparece
[22:59] <nuno_nunes> o que instalou
[22:59] <nuno_nunes> qual é nome
[22:59] <jxajro> launcher, create launcher, lançador,...
[22:59] <nuno_nunes> do app
[22:59] <nuno_nunes> lol
[22:59] <nuno_nunes> MerliM, segura-te
[22:59] <jxajro> instalei um em português mesmo.
[22:59] <MerliM> opa
[22:59] <jxajro> http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-5qzgfMUBZds/UZo-BxCEkXI/AAAAAAAAAWU/4tiPBJ8ApfU/s1600/Captura+de+tela+de+2013-05-20+11:53:31.png
[22:59] <MerliM> ja que foiiii
[23:00] <jxajro> quero abrir essa figura no meu computador.
[23:00] <nuno_nunes> tens que instalar componentes gnome
[23:00] <nuno_nunes> isso é um criador de atalhos
[23:01] <nuno_nunes> não é nenhuma app
[23:01] <nuno_nunes> da 5 minutos
[23:02] <jxajro> ???
[23:03] <astroo-> ola
[23:03] <jxajro> como instalo??
[23:12] <MerliM> jxajro, instala o que mano
[23:13] <nuno_nunes> eu nem entendi o que ele quer
[23:13] <jaqent> MerliM: acho que ele tá falando co criador de atalhos
[23:14] <nuno_nunes> ele fala do criador de atalho
[23:14] <nuno_nunes> que app andas a procura
[23:14] <nuno_nunes> ???
[23:14] <MerliM> confuso o.O
[23:14] <nuno_nunes> qual é o nome
[23:15] <nuno_nunes> até eu
[23:15] <jxajro> oi MerliM
[23:15] <nuno_nunes> ele não sabe se explicar
[23:15] <nuno_nunes> :|
[23:15] <jxajro> quero abrir o Criar Lançador
[23:15] <jxajro> http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-5qzgfMUBZds/UZo-BxCEkXI/AAAAAAAAAWU/4tiPBJ8ApfU/s1600/Captura+de+tela+de+2013-05-20+11:53:31.png
[23:15] <nuno_nunes> que lançador queres criar
[23:16] <jaqent> jxajro: relaxa, as vezes todos nós ficamos confusos na hora de se explicar :)
[23:16] <nuno_nunes> estas a programar alguma coisa
[23:16] <jaqent> Ele quer só saber como abre o criador de atalhos
[23:16] <nuno_nunes> isso é um componente do gnome
[23:16] <jxajro> Mas como assim explicar? Vcs não conseguem ver essa figurinha aí do endereço?
[23:16] <jxajro> Exatamente nuno_nunes
[23:16] <jaqent> nuno_nunes: e eu não uso o gnome então não faço a mínima de como se abre ele
[23:17] <jxajro> é só isso que quero.
[23:17] <jxajro> Tentei reinstalar mas ele diz que já está instalado
[23:17] <nuno_nunes> mas tens que instalar os componentes
[23:17] <MerliM> o criador de lancador abrir kkk pra ??? continua confuso
[23:18] <jxajro> Abrir ele..só isso. Como abre ele?
[23:18] <nuno_nunes> é isso que não entao entendo
[23:18] <MerliM> botao direito do mouse numa area sem icones tem la criar um lançador
[23:18] <jxajro> bom..vc não entende porque não usa gnome
[23:19] <jxajro> aí já está explicado
[23:19] <MerliM> pelo menos deveria ou entao botao direito do mouse no programa que vc quer e criar um lançador desse programa
[23:19] <nuno_nunes> http://www.diolinux.com.br/2014/10/como-criar-atalhos-de-programas-no-ubuntu-unity.html
[23:19] <nuno_nunes> explicado o que
[23:19] <nuno_nunes> :|
[23:19] <jxajro> explicado porque vc não faz ideia de como abre o Create Launcher
[23:19] <MerliM> jxajro, eu USO gnome a seculos usei e a forma como vc formulou sua duvida continua confuso pra mim que usei gnome por mais de 5 anos
[23:19] <MerliM> desde o gnome 2
[23:20] <MerliM> jxajro, o create launcher nada mais é que um script que a interface do gnome interpreta
[23:20] <MerliM> como se fosse um .php ou .html e voce fosse abrir o browser saca ele vai interpreta para vc
[23:20] <MerliM> porem nada mais é que um txt
[23:21] <MerliM> o lançador idem
[23:21] <jxajro> entendo MerliM. Agora como faço essa janelinha aparecer na minha área de trabalho?
[23:21] <MerliM> gnome-shell o seu???
[23:22] <nuno_nunes> mas ate pode ser feito via modo texto
[23:22] <MerliM> nuno_nunes, exato
[23:22] <jxajro> gnome-shell?
[23:22] <jxajro> acho que é.
[23:22] <nuno_nunes> sim
[23:23] <jxajro> vc consegue ver o que mostra esse site?
[23:23] <jxajro> http://sejalivre.org/como-criar-lancadores-de-aplicativos-na-area-de-trabalho-de-um-ubuntu-com-unity/
[23:23] <hggdh> isto é para o Unity, não Gnome
[23:24] <MerliM> jxajro, acha que é
[23:24] <jxajro> minha área de trabalho é esta aqui
[23:24] <jxajro> http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-dJmOxZoYOak/VS8AFEZ7apI/AAAAAAAAKK4/uLRE1cxByFY/s1600/ubuntu14.04-unity.png
[23:24] <MerliM> ficou mais complicado aindaaa
[23:24] <jxajro> Ah é pra unity?
[23:24] <jxajro> como é pra Gnome?
[23:25] <nuno_nunes> isso é o menu dash
[23:25] <nuno_nunes> :|
[23:25] <nuno_nunes> aff
[23:25] <nuno_nunes> ai basta procurar a app que queres em cima esta feito
[23:25] <jxajro> mais complicado? nossa..porque?
[23:26] <nuno_nunes> http://imgur.com/lm1biF5
[23:26] <nuno_nunes> complicado é o que estas a fazer kkkkk
[23:26] <MerliM> vamos vê se entendi
[23:26] <jxajro> isso que o nuno_nunes postou é outra área de trabalho com um papel de parede diferente.
[23:27] <MerliM> nuno_nunes, complicado é o que ele ta tentando explicar ahuhauauha
[23:27] <MerliM> jxajro, veja se existe esse pacote no seu ubuntu provavelmente sim
[23:27] <MerliM> dai coloca esse comando num .sh
[23:27] <MerliM> e da permissao de execução pronto
[23:27] <MerliM> so isso
[23:27] <jxajro> sim..deve ter. Eu já instalei ele.. eu criei um lançador pra uma calculadora HP que tenho
[23:28] <MerliM> jxajro, parabéns manooo
[23:28] <jxajro> mas com que nome eu procuro?
[23:28] <nuno_nunes> mas instalas-te o software da calculadora
[23:28] <jxajro> Eu não consigo abrir ele de novo.
[23:28] <nuno_nunes> via wine ou linux
[23:28] <jxajro> Sim instalei nuno_nunes
[23:28] <MerliM> procura o que mano a calculadora HP ou o comando para criar o lançador SEJA claro
[23:28] <nuno_nunes> http://imgur.com/9rqueEh
[23:29] <nuno_nunes> eu já estou a dar em doido
[23:29] <nuno_nunes> que ele não desenvolve nada
[23:29] <nuno_nunes> :S
[23:29] <jxajro> ;'(
[23:29] <jxajro> :'(
[23:30] <nuno_nunes> explica la
[23:30] <MerliM> jxajro, mano abre um console e digita isso
[23:30] <MerliM> gnome-desktop-item-edit ~/Desktop/ --create-new
[23:30] <MerliM> vai abrir pra vc a caixa do lançador
[23:30] <MerliM> coloca um nome sugestivo ex: CalculadoraHP
[23:31] <MerliM> pronto configura as outras coisas ai no seu DASH busca pelo nome CalculadoraHP o buscador do Unity deve encontrar
[23:31] <MerliM> simples assim
[23:31] <MerliM> ficar mais comodo quando abrir anexa ele na sua barra de icones pronto
[23:31] <jxajro> quero só abrir esta janelinha na minha área de trabalho.
[23:31] <jxajro> http://imgur.com/PBrrcPB
[23:31] <jxajro> só isso.
[23:32] <jxajro> Vcs já viram ela em outras versões do Ubuntu?
[23:32] <nuno_nunes> nautilus
[23:32] <MerliM> nuno_nunes, alt+f2 faz o que abre o executar????
[23:32] <jaqent> jxajro: qual é a sua versão?
[23:32] <nuno_nunes> ?????
[23:32] <jxajro> então MerliM já digitei exatamente isso que vc colocou mas não abre
[23:32] <jaqent> MerliM: é isso
[23:32] <jxajro> Ubuntu 14.04
[23:32] <nuno_nunes> espera ai
[23:32] <MerliM> dá o que ??? se não executa o linux retorna uma mensagem de erro mano
[23:33] <jxajro> Só se eu substituiri /Desktop pro Área de trabalho
[23:33] <MerliM> jxajro, se vc fez exatamente como o comando diz
[23:33] <jxajro> perai...
[23:33] <nuno_nunes> eu fiz no terminal
[23:33] <MerliM> entao mano ~/Desktop = Área de trabalho numa tradução
[23:33] <MerliM> saca
[23:34] <MerliM> gnome-desktop-item-edit ~/Área de trabalho/ --create-new
[23:34] <nuno_nunes> http://pastebin.com/z9Wdsjrc
[23:34] <nuno_nunes> tem que instalar
[23:34] <nuno_nunes> http://pastebin.com/z9Wdsjrc
[23:34] <nuno_nunes> ups
[23:34] <jxajro> AAAAAAH!
[23:34] <nuno_nunes> sudo apt-get install gnome-panel
[23:34] <jxajro> :-D
[23:34] <jxajro> É ISSO
[23:34] <MerliM> dentro do seu /home/SEUUSUARIO/Área de trabalho/TEU LANÇADOR tá la
[23:34] <MerliM> amém senhor ahuahauuha
[23:34] <jxajro> jxajro@jxajro-ThinkCentre-M57e:~$ gnome-desktop-item-edit ~/Área\ de\ Trabalho/ --create-new
[23:34] <jxajro> Amém.
[23:34] <MerliM> nuno_nunes, somos vitoriosos resolveu
[23:35] <jxajro> era só isso que eu queria.
[23:35] <jxajro> muito difícil?
[23:35] <jaqent> jxajro: suave
[23:35] <nuno_nunes> 15 mb so em tralha
[23:35] <nuno_nunes> mas tu
[23:35] <jxajro> Pensei que ia ter que explicar em ingles..mas tudo bem...o português brasileiro funcionou
[23:35] <nuno_nunes> aff
[23:36] <jaqent> jxajro: podia ter explicado em inglês
[23:36] <nuno_nunes> o meu esta em pt-pt
[23:36] <MerliM> kkkkkkk mole essa ne mano
[23:36] <jaqent> XD
[23:36] <MerliM> afff
[23:36] <nuno_nunes> ate me podias me explicar em holandes
[23:36] <jaqent> só fazer um /join #ubuntu antes
[23:36] <MerliM> nuno_nunes, em japones se nao souber explicar nao adianta
[23:36] <nuno_nunes> pk isso é do gnome e nao do unity
[23:36] <MerliM> nem desennhando ahuahuahuahuah
[23:37] <nuno_nunes> MerliM, eu sei holandes
[23:37] <nuno_nunes> :D
[23:37] <MerliM> na proxima kkkkkk /join #ubuntu-boladecristal
[23:37] <nuno_nunes> vou ver tv
[23:37] <jxajro> süüüücessüüü!!!
[23:37] <jxajro> http://imgur.com/uHG1kax
[23:37] <MerliM> nuno_nunes, to falando de ti nao mano do jeito dele de expor
[23:37] <jxajro> Obrigado então gente
[23:38] <jxajro> :-D
[23:38] <MerliM> nhr disponha
[23:38] <nuno_nunes> MerliM, usa o kodi
[23:38] <jxajro> boa noite...depois cobrem um café.
[23:38] <jxajro> tchau!
[23:38] <jaqent> jxajro: Java?
[23:38] <asdf111> kodi é muito bom mano
[23:38] <jaqent> dispenso
[23:38] <jaqent> #parei
[23:39] <asdf111> com a lista do jonas fica melhor ainda
[23:39] <nuno_nunes> java o que
[23:39] <nuno_nunes> eu tenho a lista do iptv portugal
[23:40] <jaqent> nuno_nunes: me empresta?
[23:40] <nuno_nunes> tem 300 canais
[23:40] <jaqent> *-*
[23:40] <nuno_nunes> empresto o que
[23:40] <asdf111> nuno_nunes, testa a lista do jonas ae tem canal de portugal tambem
[23:40] <jaqent> a lista kkkkk
[23:40] <asdf111> http://lista.iptvglobal.com.br
[23:41] <nuno_nunes> pk eu vejo so a tvi e sic e rtp3
[23:41] <asdf111> entendi
[23:41] <asdf111> estou assistindo nesse exato momento uruguai x chile
[23:41] <asdf111> 1 a 0 pro uruguai
[23:42] <asdf111> como colocar um printscreen aqui no ubuntu-br ?
[23:42] <jaqent> coloca no imgur e posta o link?
[23:42] <asdf111> entendi
[23:48] <asdf111> ficou massa mano
[23:48] <nuno_nunes> http://imgur.com/fzfjmke
[23:48] <asdf111> https://imgur.com/IYIyasU
[23:49] <asdf111> muito massa nuno_nunes
[23:49] <jaqent> asdf111: existe uma beleza em tilling :D
[23:50] <asdf111> jaqent, nao entendi mano
[23:51] <jaqent> A forma como vc foi encaixando as janelas
[23:51] <nuno_nunes> asdf111, eu deixei de usar o xchat
[23:51] <nuno_nunes> :D
[23:51] <MerliM> nuno_nunes, nao o que seria ???
[23:51] <nuno_nunes> HexChat: 2.10.2 ** OS: Linux 3.16.0-54-generic x86_64 ** Distro: Ubuntu "trusty" 14.04 ** CPU: 2 x AMD E-450 APU with Radeon(tm) HD Graphics (AuthenticAMD) @ 1,65GHz ** RAM: Physical: 3,5GiB, 62,9% free ** Disk: Total: 921,1GiB, 76,8% free ** VGA: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD/ATI] Wrestler [Radeon HD 6320] ** Sound: HDA-Intel - HD-Audio Generic1: HDA-Intel - HD-Audio Generic ** Ethernet: Qualcomm Atheros
[23:51] <nuno_nunes> AR8161 Gigabit Ethernet ** Uptime: 46m 41s **
[23:51] <nuno_nunes> nao seria o que
[23:52] <MerliM> nuno_nunes, to numa caminha inversa parti de muitos WM e estou querendo chegar no GNU/Screen
[23:52] <nuno_nunes> nao entendi
[23:53] <jaqent> MerliM: usando só TUI/cli apps?
[23:53] <KurtKraut> MerliM, Use o byobu
[23:53] <nuno_nunes> :S
[23:53] <asdf111> MerliM, use o openbox mano
[23:53] <asdf111> muito bom
[23:54] <asdf111> viajei
[23:54] <asdf111> kkkkkkkkk
[23:54] <MerliM> asdf111, ja usei
[23:54] <MerliM> uso atualmente o awesome
[23:54] <asdf111> nunca ouvir falar
[23:54] <asdf111> é leve ?
[23:54] <nuno_nunes> eu ja usei windowmaker
[23:55] <asdf111> windomake é muito leve mesmo
[23:55] <nuno_nunes> em 2003
[23:55] <asdf111> fluxbox
[23:55] <MerliM> asdf111, usas trisquel mano parabens com libre-linux né
[23:55] <asdf111> MerliM, isso mesmo
[23:55] <MerliM> jaqent, :D
[23:55] <MerliM> sim
[23:55] <asdf111> só software 100 % livre
[23:56] <nuno_nunes> o trisquel é o unico com kernel libre-linux e sem componentes proprietarios
[23:56] <nuno_nunes> volto ja
[23:56] <jaqent> MerliM: eu tentei fazer isso, mas tá difícil largar o i3wm :x
[23:56] <asdf111> nuno_nunes, tem mais outras
[23:57] <MerliM> jaqent, top também
[23:57] <MerliM> ja cheguei a usa-lo
[23:59] <nuno_nunes> de volta
[23:59] <nuno_nunes> noutro linux
[23:59] <MerliM> nuno_nunes, existem outros SO 100% livres
[23:59] <MerliM> mano
[23:59] <MerliM> homologados e aprovados pela FSF
[23:59] <MerliM> parabola linux é um
[23:59] <MerliM> base archlinux
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2015-11-17-#ubuntu-locoteams
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[07:50] <dholbach> good morning
[10:31] <Kilos> hi dholbach dpm svij and all others
[10:31] <svij> hi Kilos
[11:05] <dholbach> hi Kilos
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ubuntu-chat
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2024-05-13T22:11:18.411402
| 2015-11-17T00:00:00 |
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"channel": "#ubuntu-locoteams"
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2015-11-17-#ubuntu-desktop
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[05:44] <pitti> Godo morning
[06:35] <didrocks> good morning
[06:38] <pitti> bonjour didrocks ! *accolade*
[06:39] * didrocks donne une accolade en retour à pitti
[06:41] <pitti> didrocks: as-tu eu un bon long week-end ?
[06:41] <seb128> good morning desktopers!
[06:41] <seb128> hey didrocks pitti
[06:41] <pitti> bonjour seb128 !
[06:43] <didrocks> pitti: "bon", difficile de le qualifier ainsi avec les évènements, mais long, oui…
[07:00] <didrocks> pitti: btw, sorry for not answering you right away on telegram, I didn't get any notification. I think the issue is the new "samsung optimizer" that was installed by default with OTA 5.1 and kills unused background service
[07:01] <pitti> didrocks: ah, pas de problème -- j'étais juste un peu inquiet
[07:02] <didrocks> pitti: désolé, je vais blacklister telegram je pense pour que samsung ne "l'optimise" pas :)
[07:06] <pitti> didrocks: wow, we install that by default? that sounds a bit overzealous
[07:06] <pitti> sounds a bit like the Android "greenify"; that's able to kill whatsapp and friends as well, but needs this google framework for push notifications
[07:07] <didrocks> pitti: I mean, samsung does on their galaxy S6
[07:08] <didrocks> pitti: yeah, I thought that telegram was using push notification and that this optimization wouldn't matter (it doesn't for instance for emails and hangouts), but maybe telegram doesn't…
[08:20] <larsu> good morning!
[08:20] <didrocks> good morning larsu
[08:21] <larsu> hey didrocks! Ça va?
[08:21] <didrocks> larsu: ça va, et toi ?
[08:21] <larsu> ça va bien, merci
[08:30] <seb128> hey larsu, wie gehts?
[08:30] <larsu> morning seb128! Good thanks! You?
[08:30] <seb128> great, thanks!
[08:30] <Trevinho> Morning
[08:30] <seb128> hey Trevinho
[08:30] <larsu> morning Trevinho
[08:31] <Trevinho> Hi seb128 larsu
[08:31] <didrocks> hey Trevinho
[08:31] <Trevinho> didrocks: hey
[08:35] <pitti> hey larsu
[08:35] <pitti> hey Trevinho
[08:35] <pitti> hm, so unity or something else regressed un-maximizing a window
[08:35] <pitti> maximize a window, or fullscreen it (F11), then unmaximize again, and it still uses the whole desktop size
[08:36] <pitti> instead of being restored to its original size
[08:36] <pitti> do you guys see this as well?
[08:36] <larsu> guten morgen pitti!
[08:36] <pitti> actually, I only see this with gnome-terminal
[08:37] <larsu> ya, gnome-terminal does all kinds of sizing tricks
[08:37] <larsu> sigh
[08:48] <Trevinho> pitti: hi
[08:48] <Trevinho> pitti: gnome terminal has some other issues related to positioning too
[09:00] <willcooke> morning
[09:00] <didrocks> good morning willcooke
[09:02] <seb128> oh, it's that day
[09:02] <seb128> hey willcooke
[09:03] * didrocks gets off his lawn then :p
[09:04] <willcooke> ha
[09:04] <willcooke> :)
[09:04] <Laney> yo
[09:04] <willcooke> what up
[09:04] <didrocks> hey Laney
[09:05] <Laney> hi willcooke, wb didrocks!
[09:05] <Laney> good long weekend?
[09:06] <larsu> morning willcooke & Laney!
[09:06] <didrocks> Laney: long weekend indeed, "good", well, was hard to truly rejoice for the 40 years of my brother given the context
[09:07] <didrocks> how was yours?
[09:15] <seb128> hey Laney
[09:21] * willcooke discovers gtk3-widget-factory
[09:21] <seb128> our new theme master ;-)
[09:22] <willcooke> it's taking me a loooooong time
[09:22] <willcooke> :)
[09:24] <Laney> didrocks: :/ but mine was good, went to a party down in norwich
[09:24] <Laney> hey seb128
[09:45] <pitti> hey Laney!
[09:53] <didrocks> seb128: how is your xenial experience so far?
[09:53] <seb128> good
[09:53] <didrocks> ok, upgrading then, it will all be your fault! :)
[09:53] <seb128> well, less good since the new GTK
[09:53] <didrocks> ah ?
[09:53] <seb128> but don't stop on that, it doesn't bother others as much it seems
[09:54] <seb128> my laptop is old and slower than most
[09:54] <didrocks> perf regression or anything else?
[09:54] <seb128> didrocks, http://people.canonical.com/~seb128/gtk.ogv
[09:54] <seb128> it's new gtk then old one
[09:54] <pitti> didrocks: by and large okay; some GTK regressions (some mild flickering, weird dialog layouts), but that's about it
[09:54] <pitti> didrocks: do it! :-)
[09:55] <Laney> hey pitti
[09:55] <didrocks> seb128: ah indeed, quite annoying visually on the long term I guess, but yeah, not blocking
[09:55] <seb128> right
[09:55] <didrocks> pitti: ok, I'll add you to the list of people to look after if things aren't smoothly ;)
[09:56] <seb128> well if it's your work box the visual annoyance can make your days less good
[09:56] <seb128> so your call
[09:56] <seb128> you can also update and pin back old gtk
[09:56] * pitti s'enfuit très rapid
[09:56] <didrocks> seb128: yeah, it's my work box, but yeah, pinning back old gtk is an option
[09:57] <seb128> see how much that bothers you firsyt
[09:57] <seb128> some people don't even notice it
[09:57] <seb128> so it might be good ;-)
[09:57] <pitti> "très vite", non? (I keep mixing up the adjective and adverb)
[09:57] <didrocks> "très vite" yeah ;)
[09:57] <didrocks> hum
[09:58] <didrocks> the list of new packages to install is a little bit too long/large to my taste
[09:58] * didrocks looks
[09:58] <pitti> I don't find the flickering that bothersome TBH -- if seb128 hadn't pointed it out I probably wouldn't even have noticed
[09:58] <seb128> pitti, as said my laptop is old/slow so it might be more noticable than on the new configs most people have
[09:59] <pitti> but then again it doesn't happen on terminals, and that's what I'm mostly using
[10:01] <pitti> Laney: sorry for the autopkgtest worker spam
[10:01] <Laney> we have a revert for the flickering thing
[10:01] <pitti> Laney: bos01 is behind on importing cloud images, so it still didn't get the new cloud-init
[10:01] <Laney> might include it in 3.18.5 later
[10:01] <pitti> Laney: TL;DR: on it
[10:02] <seb128> Laney, upload!
[10:02] <Laney> pitti: ah right, I was wondering
[10:02] <seb128> great :-)
[10:02] <Laney> still want Trevinho to comment on implementing the frame clock
[10:02] <Laney> he didn't really say anything when we asked yesterday
[10:02] <Laney> (hi Trevinho!!!!)
[10:03] <seb128> I bet it's not going to be trivial
[10:03] <seb128> or it would have been done
[10:03] <seb128> but let's see :-)
[10:03] <Laney> good job we don't only do trivial work
[10:03] <seb128> shrug
[10:03] <seb128> that's not what I meant...
[10:03] <seb128> but I wouldn't block on that to be done and landing to "fix" gtk
[10:04] <seb128> we can add the revert and drop it later
[10:04] <Laney> wasn't going to, that's why I said I would probably upload it
[10:04] <Laney> it sounded a bit like "will be hard, let's not do it"
[10:04] <seb128> no, "let's not block on it"
[10:04] <Laney> ok ;-)
[10:05] <seb128> your "waiting for Trevinho to reply" was sounding bit like "uploaded is blocked on that to be get an answer"
[10:05] <seb128> anyway we are good
[10:05] <seb128> waiting for Trevinho to reply in any case ;-)
[10:05] <Laney> hey didrocks, want to help me with some python stuff? :) :) :) :)
[10:06] <didrocks> Laney: sure!
[10:06] <didrocks> bring it on!
[10:06] <Laney> yay
[10:06] <Laney> seeing something like this https://stackoverflow.com/questions/24799146/use-multiprocessing-process-inside-a-script-installed-by-setuptools
[10:06] <Laney> when trying to use the appstream generator from git
[10:06] <Laney> installed into a virtualenv
[10:07] * Laney lets you on the machine
[10:07] <didrocks> Laney: so, it's not related to setuptools, right? Rather multiprocess
[10:07] <Laney> dunno what the real problem is
[10:08] <Laney> didrocks: ssh [email protected]
[10:09] <Laney> (on VPN)
[10:09] <didrocks> on it!
[10:09] <didrocks> so, what command is triggering the stacktrace?
[10:09] <Laney> ok, it works when I run the script directly
[10:09] <Laney> so something in the virtualenv breaks it
[10:09] <didrocks> ok
[10:10] <Laney> alright, source appstream/bin/activate
[10:10] <didrocks> ah, appstream is the virtualenv
[10:10] <didrocks> sourced
[10:10] <Laney> cd dep11; dep11-generator process . xenial
[10:11] <Laney> takes 20 seconds or so
[10:11] <didrocks> was just what I was going to ask :p
[10:11] <didrocks> ok, got the stack
[10:11] <Laney> code is in ~/appstream-dep11
[10:11] <Laney> I just did: python3 setup.py build && python3 setup.py install to install it into that virtualenv
[10:11] <Laney> dunno if that is right
[10:12] <didrocks> Laney: you enabled system package in your virtualenv, right?
[10:12] <Laney> yeah
[10:12] <Laney> --site-packages or something
[10:12] <didrocks> as I see a mix of system libs and some from virtualenv
[10:12] <didrocks> yep
[10:12] <didrocks> Laney: ok, will have a look (leaving in 5-10 minutes for a run to meet Julie at the park)
[10:13] <didrocks> Laney: no worry if I handle that after it?
[10:13] <Laney> ok
[10:13] <Laney> thanks!
[10:13] <didrocks> Laney: can I install some packages on the system?
[10:13] <didrocks> yw ;)
[10:13] <didrocks> like ipython
[10:13] <Laney> yeah
[10:13] <didrocks> great!
[10:14] <Laney> I will write a charm for it at some point I guess
[10:14] <Laney> but good to be using it out of git
[10:14] <didrocks> yeah ;)
[10:14] <Laney> since ximion did some improvements
[10:15] <Laney> maybe I can just build and run it out of the tree directly?
[10:15] <didrocks> Laney: I can have a look at this as well if you wish (after debugging)
[10:16] <Laney> this avoids the traceback completely
[10:16] <Laney> anyway, go run
[10:17] <didrocks> Laney: better to understand it still
[10:17] <didrocks> so that you can work from git
[11:08] <pitti> didrocks: hah, just saw fsckd in action in the IMPI console on the data center's armhf test box :)
[11:42] <darkxst> hey Laney, didrocks pitti
[11:43] <andyrock> monring all
[11:43] <Laney> hi darkxst and andyrock
[11:47] * darkxst spent the day in court, and walked out with a settlement ;)
[11:48] <Laney> a good one?
[11:50] <darkxst> 30% of a convoluted calculation, which excluded her previous ex's settlement
[11:50] <darkxst> and given its all over now, I am happy with that
[11:52] <darkxst> pretty sure she is sitting at home less happy, they came to court adament the case would just be thrown out]\
[11:55] <Laney> time to move on!
[11:56] <darkxst> Laney, yep!
[11:59] <darkxst> Laney, seb128 willcooke, is there any actual plan for switching over to gnome-software? like packagekit transition, switching to apt-cc or adapting aptdaemon to cope, and then the DEP 11 metadata
[12:00] <darkxst> and that is all before you get to writing your plugins for reviews and what not
[12:06] <Laney> robert_ancell is mostly working on that stuff
[12:07] <Laney> I've been playing with the extractor
[12:07] <Laney> in a bit http://162.213.34.169/html/ will stop being 404
[12:08] <larsu> still 404
[12:08] <larsu> still 404
[12:08] <Laney> f5 f5 f5 f5 f5
[12:08] * larsu prefers Ctrl+R for some reason
[12:08] <Laney> me too actually
[12:08] <larsu> still 404
[12:10] <darkxst> Laney, your not exactly filling me with confidence there!
[12:10] <larsu> Laney: hi!
[12:11] <Laney> darkxst: ?
[12:11] <darkxst> packagekit transition is painful at best
[12:11] <Laney> I guess what's useful for you to know is
[12:11] <Laney> if you want to help out, talk to Robert
[12:15] <didrocks> pitti: ahah, excellent! :)
[12:15] <darkxst> ok, so there is no plan then? ;)
[12:15] <didrocks> hey darkxst
[12:15] <Laney> what do you want?
[12:16] <Laney> the plan is to work on it until it works
[12:17] <Laney> I'm not doing it myself atm so I can't give more precise details
[12:19] * didrocks has some pain in the arm due to almost falling off the bike :/
[12:20] <darkxst> Laney, not personally directed at you, but I do wonder if another unachievable goal has been ticked off the list
[12:20] <Laney> let's hope not
[12:29] <Laney> darkxst: I just made https://trello.com/b/o3AB123B/gnome-software
[12:29] <Laney> will pass it on to track the task
[12:29] <Laney> HTH!
[12:30] <darkxst> Laney, you mean I have to sign up for another website ;(
[12:30] <Laney> only if you want to change it
[12:31] <pitti> Laney: reviewed your britney branch
[12:31] <Laney> thanks
[12:31] <Laney> going to make tea before crying at it :)
[12:33] * pitti goes to grab lunch too
[12:44] <seb128> back from lunch
[12:44] <seb128> speaking of packagekit doko seems to ignore me
[12:45] <seb128> I'm going to delete 1.0 again from proposed
[12:45] <Laney> WOAH
[12:46] <Laney> why do I have a HUUUUUUUUUUUUUGE tab bar in gnome-terminal?
[12:46] <didrocks> Laney: because it's an important one, smart system! :)
[12:48] <Laney> that's even on my non hidpi system
[12:48] <Laney> is it just me that thinks it's big?
[12:55] <willcooke> Laney, yeah it is too big.
[12:55] <Laney> it's probably that + icon making it big
[12:55] <willcooke> Laney, it doesn't seem to inherit the standard tabs styling so will likely need an app specific style
[12:55] <willcooke> I can probably fix it
[12:55] <willcooke> it's on my list
[12:56] <willcooke> oh, which reminds me - larsu I never did get the inspector to work with terminal. Any ideas?
[12:56] <Laney> oh I guess not
[12:58] <Laney> not the icon, that is
[12:58] <Laney> so maybe they can be themed
[12:59] <willcooke> yeah, I think it's probably padding
[12:59] <Laney> leaving it with you
[12:59] * Laney will stop noticing
[12:59] * Laney "OMG THE TAB BAR IS SO THIN NOW"
[13:00] <willcooke> :)
[13:17] <popey> Sweet5hark1, is there a way to stop LOK creating lock files? setting 'SAL_ENABLE_FILE_LOCKING' to 0 doesn't seem to do it?
[13:30] <popey> Sweet5hark1, found an alternative option which works http://askubuntu.com/a/606460/612
[13:46] <didrocks> Laney: ok, I reduced it and found the cause (but not have an explanation yet)
[13:47] <Laney> go didrocks!
[13:47] <Laney> don't interrupt my existing run please ;-)
[13:47] <Laney> (in screen)
[13:48] <didrocks> Laney: I'm making script modification, but as your one is already running, that should be all right :)
[13:48] <Laney> make a copy? :P
[13:48] <didrocks> (hum, I don't see a screen running)
[13:48] <didrocks> Laney: the issue is the original script
[13:48] <didrocks> like the wrapper
[13:49] <didrocks> so I have to register a new one
[13:49] <didrocks> Laney: is the wrapper in git?
[13:49] <Laney> what's the wrapper?
[13:49] <didrocks> /home/ubuntu/appstream/bin/dep11-generator
[13:49] <Laney> yes
[13:49] <didrocks> urgh
[13:49] <didrocks> normally, those kind of things are generated
[13:49] <Laney> oh wait
[13:49] <Laney> you mean the thing that calls some other thing
[13:50] <didrocks> yeah, the entry point if you prefer
[13:50] <Laney> that was generated
[13:50] <didrocks> ok
[13:50] <Laney> look at ~/appstrem-dep11/
[13:50] <didrocks> ok, that's the git?
[13:51] <Laney> ye
[13:52] <didrocks> this generated one is weird, quite different from usual ones
[13:52] <didrocks> let me try with one generated here with 3.4
[13:52] <didrocks> I bet that's what doesn't set __spec__
[14:18] <didrocks> Laney: ok, found a way to make it work I think
[14:19] <didrocks> so, the real issue is that the old scripts that setuptools is generating is using directly __import__, which doesn't set new features in python3.4 like __spec__
[14:20] <didrocks> __spec__ is needed on the main module when initiliazing first pool of multiprocessing in one and only one case: if you multiprocessing.set_start_method('forkserver')
[14:20] <didrocks> (which is the case ofc here)
[14:20] <didrocks> so, the real issue is the way setuptools is doing this __import__()
[14:20] <didrocks> it's not the case with a better/newer way of initiliazing those scripts
[14:21] <didrocks> using entrypoints
[14:21] <didrocks> (I emulated using entrypoints on the machine's install to confirm)
[14:21] <desrt> moin moin
[14:22] <didrocks> that means as well that I need to change the way I guess Matthias is generating the executable script for his own testing purpose
[14:22] <didrocks> (I guess doing something like what I do in ubuntu make)
[14:22] <didrocks> hey desrt
[14:22] <didrocks> and then, load_entry_points is DTRT for initiliazing a module
[14:23] <Laney> hey desrt!
[14:23] <didrocks> Laney: so, happy to work on a branch to change that upstream if you agree, but I wouldn't mind before proposing this for review that we try to do a fresh install (if you don't mind) on the server
[14:23] <didrocks> (just a new virtualenv should be enough)
[14:23] <desrt> good morning Laney, didrocks (and others)
[14:23] <Laney> didrocks: ok, let my current run finish though please
[14:23] <Laney> didrocks: or git clone appstream-dep11 appstream-dep11-didrocks and work from that
[14:24] <Laney> should be isolated then
[14:24] <didrocks> Laney: I don't see any screen process running though, is that expected?
[14:24] <seb128> hey desrt
[14:24] <Laney> didrocks: WEIRD
[14:24] <Laney> it is running though, try screen -r
[14:24] <desrt> seb128: good morning
[14:25] <didrocks> Laney: yeah, right, ps aux | grep screen doesn't return anything, weird
[14:25] <seb128> desrt, how was your secret blue meeting? ;-)
[14:25] <Laney> how strange
[14:25] <Laney> anyway, if you work from a clone it'll be fine
[14:25] <Laney> thx for the knowledge!
[14:25] <didrocks> Laney: any public git branch I could fork? that would be easier than working on the machine directly
[14:25] <desrt> seb128: didn't happen yet :)
[14:25] <didrocks> Laney: yw!
[14:25] <Laney> yeah
[14:26] <seb128> desrt, oh ok, I though it was for yesterday ;-)
[14:26] * didrocks likes the confort of his dev setup :p
[14:26] <Laney> it's on github
[14:26] <Laney> ximion/appstream-dep11?
[14:26] <desrt> seb128: but since you ask, i pulled a jarvis virus during my morning hack run, so that's nice :)
[14:26] <didrocks> Laney: thanks!
[14:26] * didrocks clicked "fork"
[14:27] <Laney> ubuntu@appstream:~/appstream-dep11$ git config --get remote.origin.url
[14:27] <Laney> https://github.com/ximion/appstream-dep11.git
[14:27] <didrocks> Laney: ok, let's see once this run finishes, I shouldn't be too long to have something pushed on github
[14:28] * Laney speed builds gtk to upload before lunch
[14:28] <seb128> desrt, starting the day with some activity, nice!
[14:28] <Laney> stupid early team meeting, stupid GMT
[14:29] <desrt> ya... i go for a morning walk now :)
[14:29] <desrt> definitely slowed down though... no all-night 6-hour hack runs... i just crossed 400km, and the last 100km was definitely slower than the ones before.
[14:29] <didrocks> Laney: missed lunch?
[14:30] <Laney> I usually have it quite late
[14:30] * desrt digs in to vi
[14:30] <Laney> meh, I'll upload this after getting back
[14:30] <Laney> bye!
[14:30] <didrocks> enjoy your lunch!
[14:37] <seb128> Laney, have fun
[15:04] <didrocks> Laney: seems to finish on:
[15:04] <didrocks> rsync: link_stat "/home/ubuntu/dep11/log" failed: No such file or directory (2)
[15:04] <didrocks> rsync error: some files/attrs were not transferred (see previous errors) (code 23) at main.c(1183) [sender=3.1.1]
[15:04] <didrocks> on another note, my branch is up on github
[15:05] <didrocks> (https://github.com/didrocks/appstream-dep11/tree/setuptools_scripts)
[15:22] <qengho> Oh man, this is too early for a meeting.
[15:23] <seb128> what time is it in your tz now?
[15:24] <qengho> seb128: It's 10:23. I just mean I'm unprepared.
[15:24] <seb128> ah
[15:24] <seb128> well you are not first in the list
[15:24] <seb128> do it the Laney way, just write your summary while others are going ;-)
[15:27] <Laney> you don't know I do that!
[15:30] <willcooke> #startmeeting Desktop Team Weekly Meeting - 2015-11-17
[15:30] <meetingology> Meeting started Tue Nov 17 15:30:01 2015 UTC. The chair is willcooke. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology.
[15:30] <meetingology> Available commands: action commands idea info link nick
[15:30] <willcooke> Roll call: andyrock, attente, desrt, dgadomski, didrocks, fjkong (out?), happyaron(out?), hikiko(hols), laney, larsu, qengho, seb128, sweet5hark, themuso (out), tkamppeter, trevinho, robert_ancell (out)
[15:30] <willcooke> hi all
[15:30] <desrt> o/
[15:30] <seb128> hey
[15:30] <andyrock> \o
[15:30] <dgadomski> hey
[15:30] <seb128> Laney, did you just admit? ;-)
[15:30] <larsu> hey!
[15:31] <Trevinho> Heeeeeej!
[15:31] <attente> o/
[15:31] <willcooke> #topic andyrock
[15:31] <didrocks> hey
[15:31] <andyrock> hey
[15:32] <andyrock> nothing much to say: basically going through all the unity MP's
[15:32] <FJKong> hey
[15:32] <andyrock> I'm doing the last couple of reviews right now
[15:32] <willcooke> thanks andyrock
[15:32] <andyrock> pretty short ones so should take one hour
[15:33] <andyrock> and I can start coding again \o/
[15:33] <willcooke> :D
[15:33] <willcooke> thanks andyrock, it's an important task, so thanks for sticking at it
[15:33] <willcooke> #topic attente
[15:34] <attente> more upstream fixes to maliit-framework and maliit-input-context-gtk
[15:34] <attente> spent some time trying to track down the double tapping issue, the problem is in ubuntu-keyboard
[15:34] <attente> starting packaging the new maliit release, but tests are failing...
[15:34] <attente> (eof)
[15:34] <willcooke> thanks attente, good wok on Maliit
[15:34] <willcooke> #topic desrt
[15:34] <desrt> hi
[15:34] <desrt> (slightly) short week last week
[15:35] <desrt> usual bug stuff, pushed some patches
[15:35] <desrt> back to working on inotify again :)
[15:35] <desrt> eof
[15:35] <willcooke> thanks desrt
[15:35] <willcooke> #topic dgadomski
[15:35] <dgadomski> hey, I continued to work on issues from last week:
[15:35] <dgadomski> * offered fix for bug #1337873 upstream, got positive feedback, though they ask for refactoring of the whole affected area. Everything is waiting for upstream action at: https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=92886. I will prepare a debdiff for xenial as soon as this is accepted
[15:36] <dgadomski> ehm... that is bug #1510824
[15:36] <dgadomski> * testing fix for bug #1337873 - working fine so far
[15:36] <dgadomski> * didn't have time to finish the wiki page about debugging polkit, but I will share the link and will appreciate any feedback as soon as it's done.
[15:36] <dgadomski> * didn't have time to finish the wiki page about debugging polkit, but I will share the link and will appreciate any feedback as soon as it's done.
[15:36] <dgadomski> EOF
[15:36] <willcooke> thanks dgadomski
[15:36] <dgadomski> thank you
[15:37] <willcooke> #topic didrocks
[15:37] <didrocks> Short week (3 days only).
[15:37] <didrocks> Ubuntu Make:
[15:37] <didrocks> - released Ubuntu Make 15.11.1, publish on various social media + blog post.
[15:37] <didrocks> - tweaked the release script.
[15:37] <didrocks> - add and merge and Twine game editor support.
[15:37] <didrocks> - worked on atom.io integration, changed upstream build tool support to publish some archive publication and CI integration. This is pending review from the github's team.
[15:37] <didrocks> - ensure --help always returned the desired help (global, category or framework). Add tests for those.
[15:37] <didrocks> - fix some i18n bugs and be more relient against user setup. Fixed as well pt_BR translations.
[15:37] <didrocks> - run and test to make the test running environment more independant of user setup (like language). Running that for large tests.
[15:37] <didrocks> - explored genymotion integration for Android vm testing.
[15:37] <didrocks> .
[15:37] <willcooke> thanks didrocks
[15:37] <willcooke> #topic FJKong
[15:37] <Laney> NO
[15:37] <Laney> he also helped me!
[15:37] <FJKong> 1 debug one skin problem report by user
[15:37] <FJKong> 2 update code
[15:37] <FJKong> add auto start to pinyin search
[15:37] <FJKong> for primary user they can use gui tools to setup task
[15:37] <FJKong> 3 go to hospital
[15:37] <FJKong> eof
[15:38] <willcooke> how's the wrist?
[15:38] <FJKong> better
[15:38] <FJKong> thanks
[15:38] <larsu> ouch. get better
[15:38] <willcooke> thanks FJKong
[15:38] <willcooke> #topic happyaro1
[15:38] <willcooke> timeout set
[15:39] <desrt> *tick* *tick* *tick*
[15:39] <willcooke> #topic Laney
[15:40] <Laney> oops
[15:40] <Laney> • Very many uploads and build fixes for the latest mega transition, use seb128-as-a-shell to remove some stuff that was too hard/broken to fix (thanks!)
[15:40] <Laney> • Seed update from sprint
[15:40] <Laney> • gtk 3.18.4 and 3.18.5 update (incl window drawing fix from larsu, woo!)
[15:40] <Laney> • appstream extractor: get working with a git checkout (instead of package), ping didrocks about some bug who is in the middle of assisting (thanks to you too!) but workaround it in the meantime
[15:40] <Laney> • set up a trello board for gnome-software https://trello.com/b/o3AB123B/gnome-software (willcooke - can you / should I mail around to get people to use it?)
[15:40] <Laney> • eyes tired of packages, work on an autopkgtest-britney fix to not block packages on tests if they have never passed anyway, got review comments to address soon
[15:40] <Laney> • misc: off friday
[15:40] <Laney> ๛
[15:41] <willcooke> @ trello board. Sure, I will email cos I want to see if we should create another more general one.
[15:41] <meetingology> willcooke: Error: "trello" is not a valid command.
[15:41] <larsu> more trello boards!
[15:41] <willcooke> thanks Laney
[15:41] * larsu turns down the sarcasm
[15:41] <willcooke> #topic larsu
[15:41] <Laney> ...
[15:41] <larsu> - tested and reviewed smcv's D-Bus patches
[15:41] <larsu> - fixed icon name lookup order in my notify-osd patch from a couple of weeks back
[15:41] <larsu> - investigated and found a workaround for the black window flicker issue on compiz
[15:41] <larsu> - look into the gnome-screenshot crash that was *apparently* caused by my hidpi fix
[15:41] <larsu> - slow progress on geonames localization
[15:42] <willcooke> thanks larsu
[15:42] <seb128> larsu, the screenshot one was not?
[15:42] <larsu> seb128: ya it was - just joking ;)
[15:42] <seb128> (we blocked the GTK SRU on a potential regression)
[15:42] <seb128> k
[15:42] * larsu will fix that nxt
[15:42] <willcooke> I tired many things from the internet to get gnome-terminal to show the inspector, but to no avail.
[15:42] <seb128> if you have a follow up fix please let me know
[15:42] <seb128> so we can unblock GTK
[15:42] <larsu> yep
[15:42] <seb128> which also includes the tooltip corner thing
[15:43] <larsu> willcooke: compile it from source with some debug flag set
[15:43] <larsu> dunno how else it would work
[15:43] <larsu> I wonder what they're doing to break this
[15:43] <willcooke> internet says you should be able to set an env var and then it shows up in the help menu, but no. Oki, I will probably need a hand to get it to compile. But I'll finish the other stuff first.
[15:44] <willcooke> no immediate urgency on that I think
[15:44] <willcooke> #topic qengho
[15:44] <qengho> * new Cr upstream. fixing two new bugs before release.
[15:44] <qengho> * merging xdg-utils from Debian.
[15:44] <qengho> * updating Cr packaging for another format.
[15:44] <qengho> EOF
[15:44] <qengho> Also,
[15:44] <qengho> * laptop is haunted.
[15:44] <qengho> EOF
[15:44] <willcooke> :D
[15:45] <willcooke> thanks qengho
[15:45] <willcooke> #topic seb128
[15:45] <seb128> • (4 days week, armistice day holiday)
[15:45] <seb128> • debugged/fixed guest session not working in xenial
[15:45] <seb128> • helped on xenial transitions (libimobiledevice, glew)
[15:45] <seb128> • continued on desktop merges&updates
[15:45] <seb128> • bugs/errors reviews
[15:45] <seb128> • some NEW reviews
[15:45] <willcooke> thanks seb128
[15:45] <willcooke> #topic Sweet5hark1
[15:47] <Sweet5hark1> whops, /me is unprepped please sip me to last
[15:47] <willcooke> oki
[15:47] <willcooke> #topic TheMuso
[15:47] <willcooke> * Finally got the Orca gsettings backend work done, and posted on the Orca mailing list to get communit feedback, still got things to fix, and got to optimize code.
[15:47] <willcooke> * Upgraded to Xenial. Nothing to report so far, but saw a pulse bug filed that needs investigating.
[15:47] <willcooke> * Starting to look at updating Alsa to 1.1.0, both in Debian and in Xenial.
[15:47] <willcooke> #topic tkamppeter
[15:47] <tkamppeter> - ippusbxd: Lots of communication with the guy from the printer manufacturer
[15:47] <tkamppeter> - ippusbxd: Lots of improvements on managing the two or more USB communication channels and on handling delayed answers on USB and timeouts.
[15:47] <tkamppeter> - I did not hear about any progress on the phone's print dialog. Did there happen anything?
[15:47] <tkamppeter> - Bugs.
[15:48] <willcooke> tkamppeter, did you have your meeting with design yet?
[15:48] <willcooke> actually, let's pick this up in our 1:1 then we can work out what the next steps are
[15:48] <tkamppeter> willcooke, no, sometimes I tried to communicate with mpt, but did not get answers.
[15:49] <willcooke> oki, I'll speak to design and get something sorted
[15:49] <willcooke> #topic Trevinho
[15:49] <Trevinho> · Checked u-s-d keyboard backlight issues
[15:49] <Trevinho> · Did some study and tests on compiz frame synchronization (http://fishsoup.net/misc/wm-spec-synchronization.html)
[15:49] <Trevinho> · Various reviews, including the new lockscreen shield for Ubuntu Kylin
[15:49] <Trevinho> · Fixed issue with scale when using launcher in multi-monitor.
[15:49] <Trevinho> · Improved unity spread to show up new windows when they are opened
[15:49] <Trevinho>
[15:49] <willcooke> thanks Trevinho
[15:49] <seb128> Trevinho, what's the output of the frame sync study?
[15:49] <seb128> would be easy to do?
[15:50] <Trevinho> seb128: well, it would take some weeks I think
[15:50] <Trevinho> seb128: not that easy... Neither too hard, but it takes some time
[15:50] <seb128> right, I guess somebody needs to weight the priority and if it's worth that time investment
[15:50] <Trevinho> It depends what could really be the benefits...
[15:51] <seb128> one job for willcooke ;-)
[15:51] <willcooke> sure, can someone explain the back story to me off line?
[15:51] <seb128> we can discuss it after the meeting I guess
[15:51] <willcooke> oki
[15:51] <willcooke> wfm
[15:51] <willcooke> #topic robert_ancell
[15:51] <willcooke> No update this week.
[15:52] <willcooke> #topic Any Other Business
[15:52] <willcooke> didrocks has offered to run a LP training course :)
[15:52] <seb128> willcooke, you should add yourself to the topics ;-)
[15:52] <andyrock> :D
[15:52] <seb128> so you could list the nice themes fixes coming ;-)
[15:52] <willcooke> oh, yeah I guess - let's do that...
[15:52] <willcooke> #topic willcooke
[15:53] <willcooke> Triage rls-x-incoming. Slow going but got about half done yesterday. More tomorrow
[15:53] <willcooke> Learning about gtk themeing. Fix one thing, break another
[15:53] <willcooke> I will try to get that all wrapped up in to an MP before too long
[15:54] <willcooke> Meetings with exec about things. More details to follow shortly once everything is confirmed.
[15:54] <desrt> sprint things? =)
[15:54] <willcooke> There will be a sprint in April, maybe in Prague
[15:55] <desrt> sounds fun
[15:55] <willcooke> trying to sort an intermediate sprint around GSC
[15:55] <willcooke> Hr things...
[15:55] <larsu> gsc?
[15:55] <Laney> ...
[15:55] <willcooke> You have to write some career plans and such. I will send proper details over email
[15:56] <willcooke> Laney, Gnome Software Center
[15:56] <larsu> Laney: ?
[15:56] <larsu> ah
[15:56] <larsu> that's spelled g-c-s *cough* :D
[15:56] <larsu> *g-s-c
[15:56] <Laney> gnome-software
[15:56] <Laney> I don't think it actually has centre in the name
[15:56] <larsu> indeed
[15:56] <willcooke> ah
[15:56] <seb128> g-s
[15:56] <larsu> the binary doesn't at least
[15:56] <larsu> that's like gnome shell
[15:56] <seb128> gnome-screensaver/shell/software
[15:57] <seb128> right :p
[15:57] <desrt> -session in my mind :)
[15:57] <larsu> gnome-settings
[15:57] <willcooke> oki, back to...
[15:57] <seb128> that's why they should stop the gnome- nonsense, just call it "software" :p
[15:57] <willcooke> #topic AOB
[15:57] <seb128> easy to google as well
[15:57] <larsu> seb128: "files"
[15:57] <Laney> gnome-sudoku
[15:57] <willcooke> didrocks, tell us about your lp training...
[15:57] <seb128> LP? like launchpad?
[15:57] <Laney> gnome-screenshot
[15:57] <seb128> any specific part? bugs? translations?
[15:57] * Sweet5hark1 wonders if "career plans" needs to include "will have report ready for the team meeting" ...
[15:57] <didrocks> hum, wasn't planned to write anything about it, thanks for warning me in advance willcooke :p
[15:57] <seb128> bzr!
[15:58] <willcooke> geez
[15:58] <Laney> gnome-system-log
[15:58] <Laney> this is a fun game
[15:58] <didrocks> basically, I noticed that some of us don't know how to use LP properly
[15:58] <Laney> I guess that would be g-s-l though
[15:58] <seb128> Laney, we got it, stop now :à
[15:58] <seb128> :)
[15:58] <Laney> hahahaHAHAHA sorry
[15:58] <didrocks> I quite regularly get some questions :)
[15:58] * Laney thinks he is funnier than he really is
[15:58] <seb128> oh?
[15:58] <didrocks> like where are packages
[15:58] <didrocks> what is published where
[15:58] <didrocks> ofc, not from old distro guys ;)
[15:58] <didrocks> I think maybe having a short 1h LP presentation for people interested could be of use
[15:59] <didrocks> and make everyone not knowing how really LP works could be useful
[15:59] <seb128> yeah
[15:59] <didrocks> (so upstream/downstream bug tasks, nominate for release, different ubuntu gates and processes like FF, how to get binaries from distros, ppa, debug symbols…)
[15:59] <desrt> "<didrocks> basically, I noticed that some of us don't know how to use LP properly"
[15:59] <didrocks> oh, and as well CI Train
[15:59] <desrt> quote of the year
[16:00] <didrocks> desrt: fortunately, we are near the end of year ;)
[16:00] <didrocks> so yeah, we should organize that. I think people interested, think about it and just o/ in the next meeting, wdyt willcooke?
[16:00] <Sweet5hark1> (the obvious followup question would be: if we dont know that, does anybody?)
[16:01] <desrt> i'm definitely curious. i could use to improve my LP-fu
[16:01] * didrocks notes desrt then
[16:01] <Laney> teach me all about the translations component
[16:01] <willcooke> great, we can record it and I'll write up notes for the wiki as well
[16:01] <desrt> i'd also be sort of interrested in more general releasey/uploady-type topics
[16:01] <didrocks> Laney: nooooooooooo, you are on the blacklist because you will ask about things I obviously don't know :p
[16:01] <desrt> not super-useful to my work, but it's all a bit of mystery to me now and it can't hurt to know more
[16:01] <didrocks> desrt: yeah, sounds something we can cover
[16:02] <Laney> hehe
[16:02] <Laney> nobody knows anything about rosetta anyway
[16:02] <larsu> whats rosetta?
[16:02] * Sweet5hark1 certainly would be interested in how lp is supposed to work. I'll likely need to abuse it alot away from that, but still, knowing how it should be in an ideal world is a good thing.
[16:02] <didrocks> Laney: I can show you how to export translations :p
[16:02] <didrocks> but seb128 can as well
[16:03] <willcooke> ok, we'll get something in the calendar for the lp training then
[16:03] <didrocks> that's it :p
[16:03] <Laney> the translations bit of launchpad
[16:03] <seb128> haha
[16:03] <willcooke> thanks didrocks
[16:03] <Laney> soyuz = uploading, malone = bugs
[16:03] <Laney> what is questions?
[16:03] <willcooke> anything else from anyone?
[16:03] <seb128> not from me
[16:03] <didrocks> Laney: you forgot wiki as well!
[16:03] <Sweet5hark1> willcooke: my report?
[16:03] <seb128> heh
[16:03] <seb128> Sweet5hark1, that's what you get for not coming ready to the meeting :p
[16:03] <willcooke> ooooh
[16:03] <willcooke> #topic Sweet5hark1
[16:04] <Sweet5hark1> - 5.1 alpha1/xenial
[16:04] <Sweet5hark1> - code review
[16:04] <Sweet5hark1> - some bug triage on LibreOffice ARM not starting, some look in people having problems with libreoffice-dev (sdk) on Ubuntu
[16:04] <Sweet5hark1> - libpng CVE for coord for TDF LibreOffice build
[16:04] <Sweet5hark1> - build system/unittest debugging improvements
[16:04] <Sweet5hark1> - multiple candidate interviews for TDF DocLead position
[16:04] <Sweet5hark1> - preparations for 2. german open IT Summit in Berlin
[16:04] <Sweet5hark1> - LibreOffice/GNOME Madrid Hackfest coordination, advertising and budgeting, other tenders&budgeting
[16:04] <Sweet5hark1> EOF
[16:04] <willcooke> thanks Sweet5hark1
[16:04] <willcooke> #topic aob
[16:04] <Sweet5hark1> seb128: yeah. /me is feeling guilty.
[16:05] <willcooke> oki, let's end the meeting and the seb128 Trevinho we can talk about that frame sync stuff
[16:05] <willcooke> #endmeeting
[16:05] <meetingology> Meeting ended Tue Nov 17 16:05:20 2015 UTC.
[16:05] <meetingology> Minutes: http://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/ubuntu-desktop/2015/ubuntu-desktop.2015-11-17-15.30.moin.txt
[16:05] <Laney> always be prepared well in advance!
[16:05] <willcooke> thanks all
[16:05] <Laney> WELL!#
[16:05] <seb128> lol
[16:05] <seb128> like Laney
[16:05] * Laney #startmeeting -> #starttyping
[16:05] <seb128> be ready, including a nice utf8 char of the week ;-)
[16:05] <Laney> -> #startgooglingforunicode
[16:06] <seb128> willcooke, the url Trevinho gave (http://fishsoup.net/misc/wm-spec-synchronization.html) has the technical details
[16:06] <willcooke> TL;DR
[16:07] <Trevinho> willcooke: yeah.. or http://blog.fishsoup.net/2011/11/08/applicationcompositor-synchronization/
[16:07] <seb128> in practice it's supposed to lead to better/smooth rendering for e.g animated things
[16:07] <seb128> I think
[16:07] <willcooke> right, so same as video playback syncs to v refresh right
[16:07] <willcooke> you dont get tearing when you drag windows etc
[16:07] <seb128> I'm not paying attention to details enough to be able to say it makes a visible difference to me
[16:08] <seb128> but maybe larsu or Laney or others have more of an opinion on that
[16:08] <Trevinho> Not much about dragging windows... As per videos it's something that video players have to support (no idea about totem status on that)
[16:08] <seb128> unsure how much of a net user improvement it would looks like
[16:08] <larsu> no flickering for one
[16:08] <larsu> also smooth resizing
[16:08] <Trevinho> basically the idea is that the compositor will wait to redraw an app till the next vblank, if the app support this... Instead of doing it at XDamageNotify time
[16:09] <Trevinho> larsu: smooth resizing is something that is already partly implemented
[16:09] <Trevinho> larsu: as compiz already supports basic xsync
[16:09] <larsu> "partly"
[16:09] <larsu> :P
[16:09] <Trevinho> I mean, it does support the first version of this protocol, not the "extended" one...
[16:09] <larsu> what's the difference between xsync and this?
[16:09] <larsu> ah, got it
[16:09] <seb128> larsu, what sort of flickering?
[16:10] <larsu> Trevinho: was just making a stupid joke, sorry if it came off as dismissive
[16:10] <Trevinho> larsu: yeah, see difference between Basic Synchronization and Extended Synchronization in that doc
[16:10] <Trevinho> larsu: no worries ;-)
[16:10] <larsu> seb128: when creating windows - it's still there with my patch, but not as noticable because it's wit hthe background color instead of black
[16:10] <seb128> ah, that bug, right
[16:10] <larsu> but on slower machines or when creating many windows at once, you totally notice
[16:10] <seb128> yeah
[16:11] <seb128> it's just less disturbing because there is less change
[16:11] <willcooke> At this point, where I know very little my thoughts are that this is probably something that if had implemented it a few years ago would be nice, but at this point I don't think it's worth spending time on
[16:11] <seb128> same here, it's a nice to have but I'm unsure if would have that much of an impact
[16:11] <larsu> I tend to agree with willcooke, even though I'd really like to see it
[16:11] <seb128> or at least enough to justify to be on top of the todolist
[16:11] <seb128> like we need proper support for CSD before that
[16:11] <Trevinho> I agree
[16:11] <willcooke> I'd be happy to see it on the backlog and let's see if we have time
[16:12] <willcooke> agile ftw :)
[16:13] <willcooke> If someone can create a bug then I will target it etc and then if we have some time to work on it, then let's consider it, but right now we have bigger bugs to work on
[16:13] <willcooke> Probably something we should mention to the U8 / Mir guys though, so they can get it in to U8
[16:13] <willcooke> or at least be aware that it's a nice feature
[16:16] <Laney> it's something that would make a more quality experience on the lts
[16:16] <seb128> right
[16:16] <seb128> the list of things that would make more of a quality experience is long though
[16:17] <seb128> so we need to order it
[16:18] <Laney> I know
[16:18] <Laney> I think backlog is code for not doing it :)
[16:18] <Laney> or at least putting it low down
[16:19] <willcooke> it's a step up from not doing it
[16:19] <willcooke> but yeah, imo it's lower priority than the other bugs we have on the list
[16:21] * seb128 shrugs at udisks
[16:23] <seb128> ok, maybe at gnome-disks :p
[16:23] <seb128> would be nice if changing partitions there would update fstab for you
[16:24] <larsu> would be nice if fstab weren't a thing anymore
[16:24] <seb128> yeah, is there a planned replacement?
[16:25] <qengho> Is systemd eating that too?
[16:25] <larsu> it's compatible with fstab, but it should, yes
[16:25] <larsu> there's a generator which takes fstab entries and makes them into units
[16:26] <seb128> there is no much to "eat" there, would need to define a new way to define what is in fstab
[16:26] <seb128> like what swap you want to use
[16:26] <seb128> or where to mount disks
[16:26] <larsu> seb128: http://www.freedesktop.org/software/systemd/man/systemd-fstab-generator.html
[16:26] <larsu> systemd has mount and swap units
[16:26] <seb128> so the replacement would be for sysadmin to write systemd units?
[16:26] <larsu> or use the generator
[16:27] <seb128> well, that's using fstab
[16:27] <larsu> ya
[16:27] <seb128> also I think my issue would stand still
[16:27] <seb128> I doubt gnome-disks update systemd units on the fly for you
[16:27] <willcooke> desktoppers: we have an important user with this error message when using Chrome (not Chromium):
[16:27] <willcooke> (google-chrome:3016): GLib-GIO-ERROR **: Settings schema 'com.canonical.desktop.interface' is not installed
[16:27] <larsu> "important"?
[16:28] <larsu> hehe, overlay scrollbars strikes again!
[16:28] <desrt> what larsu said :)
[16:29] <larsu> I guess chrome didn't depend on the overlay scrollbars package
[16:29] <larsu> so we missed that it's using it when removing that package
[16:29] <willcooke> Chrome isnt in the archive though is it?
[16:30] <seb128> well, they probably try to read or change the overlay-scrollbar key
[16:30] <seb128> and assume it's there
[16:30] <larsu> gsettings auto crashing strikes again! :)
[16:31] <Laney> HAHA
[16:31] <seb128> in fact it's probably our fault
[16:31] <Laney> "important user" is funny
[16:31] <Laney> (it's me)
[16:31] <larsu> Laney: HAHA no.
[16:31] * larsu knows Laney's using vimperator
[16:31] <seb128> we still ship overlay-scrollbar-gtk2 by default
[16:32] <seb128> but not overlay-scrollbar
[16:32] <seb128> which includes the schemas
[16:32] <seb128> that's not going to end up well
[16:32] <Laney> ya they should move
[16:32] <Laney> or put the pkg back
[16:32] <seb128> right
[16:32] <seb128> I guess it means by default wily has no o-s on gtk2?
[16:32] <Laney> but that means the workaround is easy
[16:33] <willcooke> would switching Cr. to "Use Classic Theme" help in the meantime?
[16:33] <Laney> this is xenial
[16:33] <didrocks> seb128: overlay-scrollbar is a rdepends of ubuntu-desktop metapackage
[16:33] <Laney> I dropped it the other day
[16:33] <seb128> but some upgraders have the Xsession.d script leftover because conffiles
[16:33] <didrocks> ah, xenial…
[16:33] <Laney> it is there on wily
[16:33] <seb128> didrocks, it's not listed on http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/daily-live/current/xenial-desktop-amd64.manifest
[16:33] <Laney> just install the package
[16:33] <seb128> which is what I was looking at
[16:33] <seb128> ok, good
[16:33] <seb128> so not in wily
[16:33] <didrocks> you mentionned wily ;)
[16:33] <didrocks> yep
[16:33] <didrocks> all is fine, my chrome is happy there :p
[16:33] <seb128> yeah, I didn't realize the seed changed
[16:34] <willcooke> oh right, should have said this was on X, but guess you worked that out already
[16:34] <Laney> I bet the important user is willcooke
[16:34] <seb128> lol
[16:34] <didrocks> I doubt willcooke is using xenial :)
[16:34] * Laney is going to use this keyword now in future to get things fixed
[16:34] <seb128> me too
[16:34] <didrocks> I would bet popey!
[16:34] <Laney> guys the important user wants the frame sync protocol implemented now
[16:34] <didrocks> ahah
[16:34] * popey looks up
[16:34] * Laney trolls, sorry :)
[16:35] <willcooke> :D:D
[16:35] * popey is using xenial
[16:35] <didrocks> popey: and chrome, right?
[16:35] <Laney> lemme fix
[16:35] <popey> ya
[16:35] <didrocks> popey: and you just had a crash?
[16:35] <popey> uh, no
[16:35] <popey> should I? :)
[16:35] <seb128> upgraded probably don't have the package removed
[16:35] <Laney> wait
[16:35] <didrocks> popey: you are not important then to will's eyes :)
[16:36] <popey> Story of my life.
[16:36] <didrocks> popey: sorry man! :)
[16:36] <Laney> shouldn't it depends the other way around?
[16:36] * didrocks hugs popey
[16:36] <popey> No, it's FINE!
[16:36] <seb128> Laney, lib should depends on the o-s binary
[16:36] <popey> I'm fine..
[16:36] <Laney> yes
[16:36] <seb128> since it uses its schemas
[16:36] <Laney> it must have not done before
[16:36] <seb128> that's a bug
[16:36] <Laney> because that is a metapackage
[16:36] <Laney> this is messed up!
[16:36] <seb128> we probably never noticed because -desktop was pulling in it
[16:37] <seb128> just move the schemas to the lib and be done?
[16:37] <Laney> and drop the meta?
[16:37] <seb128> oh, there is also the Xsession config in o-s
[16:37] <Laney> or keep for upgrades
[16:37] <Laney> let's do that
[16:37] <seb128> hum
[16:37] <seb128> dpkg is fine with moving conffiles between binaries like that, right?
[16:40] <Laney> this seems annoying
[16:40] <Laney> I'm just going to swap the depends
[16:42] <seb128> that's wrong though
[16:42] <seb128> can't you just make o-s a normal -common binary?
[16:42] <seb128> and have the lib to depends on it?
[16:42] <Laney> how's that different to what I just said?
[16:42] <Laney> okay I wasn't going to rename it
[16:43] <seb128> I though you wanted to make o-s depends on the lib
[16:43] <seb128> rather than the lib on o-s
[16:43] <seb128> and I though you meant "seed o-s and have that depends on the lib"
[16:43] <Laney> that's what we had before
[16:44] <seb128> that seems backward since it means you can install the lib then and it's not going to pull the schemas
[16:44] <seb128> if you are let's say a xubuntu user
[16:44] <Laney> wtf
[16:44] <seb128> or maybe we just don't understand each others ;-)
[16:44] <seb128> anyway I trust you know how to fix it
[16:44] <Laney> http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/13314701/
[16:44] <seb128> let's stop discussing it
[16:45] <didrocks> sounds like the whole discussion about lib depending on service again
[16:45] <Laney> hahaha
[16:45] <didrocks> (indicators)
[16:45] <didrocks> and trailing coma, /me hugs Laney!
[16:45] <seb128> Laney, ok, I misunderstood you, all good ;-)
[16:45] <Laney> yeah it made me SICK to type it
[16:45] <Laney> but I did it for didrocks
[16:46] <seb128> I didn't know that o-s was depending on -gtk2
[16:46] <Laney> it was a metapackage
[16:46] <seb128> so I took the "swap" wrongly
[16:46] <seb128> right
[16:46] * didrocks rehugs Laney then
[16:46] <seb128> all good
[16:46] <Laney> guess why we didn't think that it had this in it
[16:46] * seb128 hugs Laney as well
[16:46] <Laney> when reviewing this list at sprint
[16:47] <seb128> small overlook
[16:47] * Laney cries
[16:47] <seb128> it's good that we have important users testing our daily images to catch those bugs ;-)
[16:47] <Laney> sbuild has removed the nice unicode in its logs
[16:47] <Laney> now I have to look at ascii like some kind of savage
[16:52] <Laney> seb128: please to review
[16:52] <seb128> Laney, +1 from me from your pastebin
[16:52] <seb128> or is there a proper mp to ack?
[16:53] <seb128> ah, I've email
[16:53] * seb128 clicks
[16:53] <larsu> *click*
[16:53] <seb128> bah
[16:53] <seb128> I lack lp powers to approve it though
[16:53] <Laney> HAHA
[16:53] * larsu too
[16:54] <Laney> you typed "sweat"
[16:54] * Laney perspires
[16:54] <seb128> gar
[16:54] <Laney> larsu's in the team
[16:54] <Laney> https://launchpad.net/~ayatana-scrollbar-team
[16:54] <seb128> go larsu go!
[16:54] <larsu> I just clicked?!
[16:54] <Laney> ?!?!?
[16:54] <seb128> larsu, https://code.launchpad.net/~laney/overlay-scrollbar/swap-depends/+merge/277726
[16:55] <seb128> you can do it!ù
[16:55] * larsu takes the tomatoes off his eyes and approves
[16:55] <seb128> ah
[16:55] <seb128> better
[16:56] <seb128> (not the trolling though :p)
[16:57] <Laney> thanks pals
[16:57] <willcooke> thank you very much chaps
[16:57] <Laney> no 2fa thing in this room
[16:58] <Laney> man I actually have to *move*
[16:58] <willcooke> Laney, just guess
[16:58] <larsu> Laney: you can do it!
[16:58] <seb128> use the force
[16:58] <Laney> --force
[16:58] <Laney> use the dput you say?
[16:58] <seb128> lol
[16:58] <seb128> I can put a landing request up for you if you want
[16:58] <larsu> Laney: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=POq2AznJO1Q
[17:00] <Laney> tell you what, I'm glad I went downstairs now
[17:00] <Laney> bought a chocolate bar at lunch and forgot
[17:00] <Laney> it was sitting on the table
[17:01] <willcooke> \o/
[17:01] <seb128> haha
[17:01] <seb128> that's karma for you!
[17:01] <Laney> larsu: thanks, my favourite song
[17:01] <larsu> enjoy
[17:08] <seb128> hum
[17:08] * seb128 wonders if the nautilus segfault he's valgrinding is another instance of bug #1512826
[17:08] <seb128> I though we had the fix in xenial
[17:08] <seb128> but seems we don't yet
[17:08] <Laney> no release yet
[17:09] <Laney> glib maintainersssssssssssss
[17:09] <seb128> right
[17:20] * didrocks waves good evening and good night!
[17:21] <larsu> didrocks: enjoy!
[17:21] <seb128> didrocks, night
[17:21] <didrocks> see you larsu, seb128!
[17:21] <didrocks> Laney: in case you didn't see, PR merged, you can switch to it wenever you want ;)
[17:21] <didrocks> whenever*
[17:22] <Laney> good stuff!
[18:16] <Laney> bye!
[18:17] <willcooke> also bye
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ubuntu-chat
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2024-05-13T22:11:18.435389
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2015-11-17-#xubuntu-devel
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[07:16] <flocculant> knome: could you twit the irc session for testers please
[07:18] <flocculant> ochosi: ^^ on google + :)
[07:18] <flocculant> no idea how to get anyone to do facebook
[08:09] <flocculant> knome: something up with the wp bit for our site?
[08:10] <flocculant> got a warning - then it appears to want to be http://www.ubuntu.com/wp-admin/profile.php
[09:44] <knome> flocculant, WP was set up to a new environment yesterday by canonical IS (i was contacted with them)
[09:44] <knome> flocculant, if you can, please send me an email with exact steps you took and the errors you got
[09:46] <knome> gosh, mailman definitely doesn't handle html mail graciously
[09:51] <knome> https://twitter.com/Xubuntu/status/666554165884264448
[09:51] <knome> flocculant, ^
[09:56] <knome> bbl
[11:49] <flocculant> knome: you haz mail
[11:50] <flocculant> and thanks
[12:00] <bluesabre> AOL 2015, "Sup, wb. You haz mail. LOL. YOLO."
[12:01] <bluesabre> though, I wonder if AOL commercials are lost on folks on this channel
[12:01] <bluesabre> :D
[12:04] <Akxwi-dave> nah.. not lost.. used to use aol and compuserve in the good old days, on a 4800 modem
[16:36] <knome> flocculant, ygm too :P
[16:36] <knome> and with that, bbl
[16:37] <flocculant> knome: ACK
[16:37] <flocculant> oops
[18:03] <flocculant> pleia2: sorry - but holstein's nto been about for ages and I have no way to contact the other facebook contact - can you copy the twitter testing session to fb please :)
[18:03] <pleia2> flocculant: sure
[18:03] <flocculant> thanks :)
[18:04] <pleia2> flocculant: he's on freenode (in #ubuntu-news and a few other places), so just a PM away :)
[18:04] <flocculant> holstein ?
[18:04] <pleia2> yes
[18:05] <pleia2> dunno why he doesn't hang out here anymore
[18:05] <flocculant> oh right - not seen him around for an age here
[18:05] <pleia2> which reminds me, if any other team members want to help me with fb, you're welcome to it
[18:05] <flocculant> not sure whether he's in studio channel
[18:05] <flocculant> pleia2: heh :)
[18:07] <pleia2> ok, shared to fb and g+
[18:07] <flocculant> pleia2: thanks :)
[18:07] <pleia2> sure
[18:07] <flocculant> we got it on something that's very close to being almost local to me as well :D
[18:08] <pleia2> hm?
[18:08] <flocculant> http://torbaytechjam.org.uk/other-events/
[18:09] <flocculant> not far (ish) away from me
[18:09] <pleia2> ah :)
[19:56] <Unit193> Uhh, anyone up for pinging? slang is active.
[20:11] <knome> pleia2, what's your schedule today then?
[20:12] <knome> flocculant, should be fixed "later this week"
[20:12] <flocculant> right
[20:55] <Unit193> Pinged in -devel, should be on his queue.
[21:20] <flocculant> nice to see people interested enough in testing for us to go to some website and fill things in
[21:21] <flocculant> 2 turned up there since twit/fb/g+ posts
[21:39] <pleia2> knome: kind of overwhelmed today and tomorrow, thursday around this time should be better
[21:58] <knome> pleia2, ok
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ubuntu-chat
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2024-05-13T22:11:18.444234
| 2015-11-17T00:00:00 |
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2015-11-17-#ubuntu-nl
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[09:05] <SWAT> tja, als iemand een query stuurt en offline gaat, kan ik niet antwoorden :-)
[09:53] <Mustangman1966_> Goedemorgen iedereen, een vraag ik zou graag willen bijdragen aan de vertaling van onderdelen van Ubuntu, maar ik weet niet hoe dat in zijn werk gaat, weet iemand waar ik meer informatie kan vinden?
[09:54] <Sling> Mustangman1966_: http://wiki.ubuntu-nl.org/community/Vertaalteam
[09:54] <Mustangman1966_> Thnx ik ga eens kijken.
[10:20] <Mustangman1966_> Ik heb het gevonden, nu nog een Freenode nickname registreren, waar kan ik dat het beste doen?
[10:32] <Mustangman1966> Hoe kan ik mijn Nickname registreren?
[10:35] <Mustangman1966> Op Freenode natuurlijk
[11:43] <lordievader> Mustangman1966: https://freenode.net/faq.shtml#userregistration
[11:44] <lordievader> Mocht je het nog niet hebben gevonden.
[11:57] <Mustangman1966> Bedankt Lordievader, het is inmiddels gelukt.
[15:22] <TheEagerPadawan> iemand hier die ervaring heeft met rdesktop
[15:22] <selckin> ask
[15:23] <TheEagerPadawan> ik weet dat je met -k param een keyset kan meegeven in het geval dat je zelf een andere gebruikt dat de remote host
[15:23] <TheEagerPadawan> nu de vraag is ik zou graag nl-be gebruiken
[15:23] <TheEagerPadawan> maar blijkbaar kent hij het niet
[15:26] <TheEagerPadawan> wat een kleine beetje frusterend is als je gewent bent om azerty te gebruiken en de remote is qwerty
[15:33] <TheEagerPadawan> dus de vraag is hoe kan ik correct de belgische azerty keymap meegeven aan rdesktop :)
[15:38] <selckin> -K -k nl-be is wat ik gebruik
[15:38] <selckin> & it works
[15:51] <TheEagerPadawan> waarom die twee flags ;)
[15:51] <TheEagerPadawan> is -k niet goed genoeg
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ubuntu-chat
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2024-05-13T22:11:18.448504
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2015-11-17-#ubuntu-us-mi
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[14:48] <cmaloney> Good morning
[14:48] <cmaloney> Gotta love that I'm ini the PR list for "The Grindmother"
[14:54] <rick_h_> wheeee
[14:54] <cmaloney> How's the morning?
[14:54] <rick_h_> the afternoon is peachy :)
[14:55] <cmaloney> Oh, right
[14:55] <rick_h_> changed out of my nice customer facing outfit
[14:55] <cmaloney> you're in funkytime
[14:55] <rick_h_> and working in the office feeling like a regular joe hanging out in an office
[14:55] <cmaloney> nice!
[16:42] <Scary_Guy> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4bM3Gut1hIk not linux but interesting none the less. Alternatively BinGlide is very similar and open source
[16:45] <cmaloney> Will check that ouot. THanks for that.
[16:45] <_stink_> BinGlide - is that something one can buy at the pharmacy?
[16:46] <Scary_Guy> https://github.com/wapiflapi/binglide
[16:46] <_stink_> cool
[16:49] <cmaloney> wow, that's really awesome
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ubuntu-chat
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2024-05-13T22:11:18.451243
| 2015-11-17T00:00:00 |
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"channel": "#ubuntu-us-mi"
}
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2015-11-17-#ubuntu-pt
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[03:58] <astroo-> ciao pessoal
[22:22] <astroo-> hello people
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ubuntu-chat
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2024-05-13T22:11:18.451785
| 2015-11-17T00:00:00 |
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"astroo-"
],
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"channel": "#ubuntu-pt"
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2015-11-17-#ubuntu-ie
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[12:00] <czajkowski> aloha
[12:00] <czajkowski> greetings from Smithfield
[12:01] <zergless_> hey ho
[12:02] <tdr112> hey cztab
[12:03] <tdr112> Are you dropping into your old local
[12:04] <slashbel> hello!
[12:04] <slashbel> too bad myself and ebel are no longer in smithfield
[12:11] <czajkowski> tdr112: already gotten a chicken roll and mayo!
[12:11] <czajkowski> had a tayto sandwich on the flight over
[12:11] <czajkowski> am like a child!
[12:12] <czajkowski> zergless: so wehn I get to DCU where do I go I nede to be on meetings from about 3:30
[12:12] <slashbel> all you need now is a glass of red lemonade
[12:13] <czajkowski> Mmmm or cidona
[12:13] <czajkowski> yes
[12:14] <zergless> yey meetings
[12:14] <zergless> do you have a phone you can ring off?
[12:14] <zergless> If you ring me at 0858242504
[12:15] <zergless> ill come and get you
[12:15] <zergless> its probably easier that directions
[12:17] <tdr112> zergless: this room is logged and publicly searchable
[12:17] <tdr112> becareful with your personal info
[12:17] <zergless> oh
[12:18] <zergless> TIL
[12:18] <zergless> AH well
[12:18] <zergless> If someone could erase that line? :D
[12:20] <tdr112> Sorry, its a thing with these ubuntu channels
[12:20] <tdr112> I dont think you can
[12:20] <zergless> Oh well :)
[12:38] <czajkowski> zergless: pm ftw :_
[12:38] <czajkowski> :) thanks
[12:39] <zergless> czajkowski: ill remember for next time :)
[12:39] <czajkowski> zergless: so for context all Ubuntu-* namespaces are logged
[12:40] <czajkowski> this also helps keep our channels pretty friendly and welcoming and avoiding topics that can often offend due to language and culture
[12:41] <czajkowski> zergless: http://irclogs.ubuntu.com/
[12:41] <zergless> Thats alot of logs :)
[12:44] <ebel> many channels, for many years :)
[12:45] <zergless> so it seems :)
[15:39] <czajkowski> greetings from dcu
[15:50] <tdr112> hey czajkowski , does it still have lots of red bricks
[15:53] <czajkowski> how do I get WiFi! !!
[15:57] <tdr112> you need Eduroam
[15:57] <tdr112> I dont think they have open wifi anymore
[15:58] <czajkowski> found guest
[16:22] <tdr112> waiting on the bus,
[16:22] <tdr112> the wind is something else
[16:23] <czajkowski> yes we got attacked by the wind coming in to the building!
[16:47] <zergless> its ok building beats wind :)
[16:49] <zergless> czajkowski: heading across the hall out the door on the left
[16:57] <tdr112> czajkowski: coffee ?
[16:57] <tdr112> here now
[20:55] <czajkowski> aloha
[21:12] <tdr112> yo
[21:17] <czajkowski> ello
[21:17] <czajkowski> zergless: well done good event
[21:59] <zergless> czajkowski: Thanks! and thanks for coming! Howd it go for you?
[21:59] <zergless> tdr112: thanks for coming along aswell!
[21:59] <zergless> appeciate the help for you both :)
[22:01] <czajkowski> zergless: really interesting and some good conversations in the pub afterwards
[22:02] <czajkowski> if you guys want a techncial hands on nosql workshop after xmas let me know
[22:02] <czajkowski> team is only in london
[22:03] <zergless> Ill never say no too talks!
[22:05] <czajkowski> ping me in January
[22:05] <zergless> Sounds good!
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ubuntu-chat
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2024-05-13T22:11:18.456762
| 2015-11-17T00:00:00 |
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"czajkowski",
"ebel",
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2015-11-18-#ubuntu-se
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[08:13] <Hooters> morrn
[12:43] <Hund> Morgon
[15:33] <hyltixa> God kväll folket! hur mår ni idag då ?:D
[15:34] <Barre> trött, själv då?
[15:39] <hyltixa> Jo då lugnt sedu :) Snart dags att gå på jobbpasset ;) 12h here i come! :D
[16:05] <Barre> själv kliver jag ur arbetspasset.... NU!
[18:42] <Hund> Aldrig sett någon vara glad över att få jobba ett pass på 12 timmar kl 17.
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ubuntu-chat
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2024-05-13T22:11:18.462874
| 2015-11-18T00:00:00 |
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"authors": [
"Barre",
"Hooters",
"Hund",
"hyltixa"
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"channel": "#ubuntu-se"
}
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2015-11-18-#ubuntu-us-co
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[05:40] <decebal> Helo all
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ubuntu-chat
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2024-05-13T22:11:18.464939
| 2015-11-18T00:00:00 |
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"decebal"
],
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"channel": "#ubuntu-us-co"
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2015-11-18-#ubuntu-ru
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[00:16] <tagezi> тест
[00:16] <ubuntuhelp> tagezi, Fail!
[00:19] <tagezi> тест
[00:19] <ubuntuhelp> tagezi, Понг понг понг...
[00:19] <tagezi> блин, только ты и работаешь )
[00:43] <tagezi> Г+ придумал новый интерфес :)
[00:44] <tagezi> глаза начинают болеть через 5 минут.. Гугл решил разориться, наверное
[03:56] <andrex> !vpn
[03:56] <ubuntuhelp> VPN: быстрая настройка. Инфо тут: http://help.ubuntu.ru/manual/vpn_подключения "Если кнопка VPN не доступна!" установите пакет network-manager-pptp и linux-pptp Так же см: !pptp
[04:00] <andrex> !no vpn is <reply> VPN: быстрая настройка. Инфо тут: http://help.ubuntu.ru/manual/vpn_подключения и http://help.ubuntu.ru/wiki/openvpn "Если кнопка VPN не доступна!" установите пакет network-manager-pptp и linux-pptp Так же см: !pptp
[04:00] <ubuntuhelp> I'll remember that andrex
[06:14] <uneform_alex> Доброе утро
доброе!
[07:47] <tagezi> утра
[07:47] <danielmetlitski> privet!
[07:48] <danielmetlitski> кто нибудь может мне помочь на писать быстрое письмо без ошибок?
[07:54] <AleksU> странный вопрос. Немного подробностей не помешало бы
[07:55] <danielmetlitski> Я хочу на писать
[07:55] <danielmetlitski> Привет! Пожалуйста обновите игру на новою версию и если у вас всеровно эта проблема происходит после этого пошлите нам писмо на [email protected]
[07:55] <danielmetlitski> это я не слишком грубо написал? или кто нибудь видет граматические ошыбки?
[07:55] <danielmetlitski> письмо профессионально звучит или нет?
[07:57] <danielmetlitski> я давно в америке жил и русский почти забыли
[07:59] <danielmetlitski> AleksU
[08:00] <AleksU> Добрый день. Пожалуйста, установите обновления на данную игру. Если у вас эта проблема сохранилась, напишите мне письмо на [email protected]
[08:00] <andrex> Привет! Пожалуйста обновите игру до актуальной версии и если проблема не исчезнет, напишите нам писмо на [email protected].
[08:04] <andrex> ну да привет это слишком)
[08:05] <AleksU> и после пожалуйста стоит запятую поставить :)
[08:05] <andrex> Привет, через ваш дом пройдет радиоактивное облако пыли, хорошего дня! ;DD
++ :)
[08:09] <danielmetlitski> спасибо всем!
[08:10] <AleksU> пожалуйста!
[09:02] <SergeyIT> мира
[09:03] <andrex> войны
[09:07] <AleksU> зрелищ
[09:12] <SergeyIT> сразу видно, кого кормят, а кого нет
[09:13] <andrex> :D
[09:34] <andrex> решил на xenial обновиться)
[09:34] * andrex мазахист
[09:55] <SergeyIT> у меня пока нет времени... может на каникулах
[15:11] <Artur_Prosto> привет
[15:11] <Artur_Prosto> может кто помочь с бд ?
[15:11] <Artur_Prosto> mysql точнее
[15:12] <tagezi> а в чем дело?
[15:14] <Artur_Prosto> переустанавливал бд(новую версию поставил). старые базы забэкапил. развернул на новом всём. и теперь при бэкапе говорит -> mysqldump: Got error: 1449: The user specified as a definer ('не существующий пользоватеь'@'localhost') does not exist when using LOCK TABLES
[15:15] <Artur_Prosto> с ключом -f бэкапится. но всё рано даёт тревогу в консольку
[15:16] <Artur_Prosto> и так на тех базах. которые перенёс. но вновь созданных всё норм
[15:17] <tagezi> не, не наю
[15:18] <Artur_Prosto> вот и я в ступоре
[15:20] <andrex> либо юзверя нет там куда ты базу разворачиваеш либо есть но прав у юзверя нет либо яфз
[15:21] <andrex> ну или оттуда откуда бекапиш
[15:21] <andrex> у xampp такая фигня была раньше просто надобыло права дать все галки воткнуть
[15:27] <SergeyIT> может здесь почитать http://stackoverflow.com/questions/10169960/mysql-error-1449-the-user-specified-as-a-definer-does-not-exist
[15:29] <Artur_Prosto> я этого пользователя не создавал
[15:29] <Artur_Prosto> и в списке юзеров его нет
[15:33] <andrex> должен быть
[15:33] <andrex> это дефолтные по идее
[15:34] <Artur_Prosto> The user specified as a definer ('velvetby'@'localhost') does not exist when using LOCK TABLES
[15:34] <Artur_Prosto> это мой старый пользователь. он не дефолтный
[15:35] <andrex> ну ващето он ен на него у тя ругался как я понял
[15:35] <Artur_Prosto> да.
[15:36] <andrex> а на * @ localhost
[15:37] <Artur_Prosto> что на локалхост ?
[15:38] <andrex> да это общий чтоли
[15:39] <andrex> http://storage5.static.itmages.ru/i/15/1118/h_1447861180_4762343_a61f24d867.png
[15:42] <Artur_Prosto> грубо говоря. создал такого пользователя. вроде заткнулся.
[15:42] <Artur_Prosto> хотя это не красиво
[17:46] <OnkelTem> Привет
[17:46] <OnkelTem> Соу мач тайм
[17:47] <OnkelTem> Интересно, в Убунте так и не научились включать/выключать сервисы?
[17:51] <bledniy> OnkelTem: а когда это убунта не умела включать/выключать сервисы?
[17:52] <OnkelTem> bledniy: ok, как это сделать?
[17:52] <bledniy> start сервис / stop сервис
[17:53] <bledniy> на апстарте по крайней мере
[17:53] <OnkelTem> это называется включить? )
[17:53] <OnkelTem> это называется запустить / остановить
[17:53] <bledniy> а что такое включить?
[17:53] <OnkelTem> раньше была тулза sysv-rc-conf кажется, но и она геморройная
[17:53] <OnkelTem> bledniy: то, что не запустить
[17:53] <OnkelTem> а запускать или нет автоматом, при старте
[17:54] <bledniy> а, так это тоже просто - echo manual >> /etc/init/сервис.override
[17:55] <OnkelTem> о
[17:55] <OnkelTem> серьзено? блин
[17:55] <bledniy> читать доки надо было по апстарту ))
[17:55] <OnkelTem> .override - это ведь не случайное расширение, так?
[17:55] <bledniy> да
[17:56] <OnkelTem> bledniy: я бы почитал ) как быстрее эти доки найти?
[17:56] <OnkelTem> А это прикольное решение, вообще супер. Именно что-то такое и искал
[17:56] <bledniy> конфиг - .conf, а ручное изменение настроек - .override
[17:57] <bledniy> http://upstart.ubuntu.com/cookbook/#manual
[17:58] <OnkelTem> а что если сервиса там нет?
[17:58] <OnkelTem> в /etc/init
[17:58] <OnkelTem> допустим, postresql.conf там нет
[17:59] <bledniy> значит он запускается не апстартом, и тогда старая схема для него работает
[17:59] <OnkelTem> но я его при этом смог загасить service stop postgresql
[18:00] <bledniy> эта команда сейчас работает для всех сервисов. Ищи его конфиг в /etc/init.d
[18:00] <OnkelTem> кстати, всегда было интересно -- в скриптах в /etc/init.d/* вверху есть блок комментов, начинающихся с "### BEGIN INIT INFO "
[18:01] <OnkelTem> кто-то это парсит, выходит? Может это нужно, чтобы как раз сэкономить на скрипте в /etc/init?
[18:01] <OnkelTem> О! Ща погуглю!
[18:02] <bledniy> хз, по-моему это что-то для параллельной загрузки
[18:02] <OnkelTem> по ходу что-то официальное - https://wiki.debian.org/LSBInitScripts
[18:05] <bledniy> update-rc.d -f postresql remove
[18:05] <bledniy> * postgresql
[18:15] <GriefNorth> Всем привет, кто-нибудь испоользует gnome-shell, интересует вопрос, как в наутилусе отсортировать файлы по дае создания, а не по дате последнего просмотра
[18:20] <Sergey_IT> а разве там не по дате последнего изменения? (наутилуса нет)
[18:24] <GriefNorth> Sergey_IT, к сожалению нет http://itmages.ru/image/view/3214402/03e7bab8
[18:54] <OnkelTem> bledniy: угу, а потом будут проблемы с установкой обратно (
[18:54] <OnkelTem> bledniy: тут посоветовали такой способ - переименовать rc2.d/SNN_server в что угодно, не начинающееся с S. Я сделал rc2.d/_S19postgresql
[18:55] <OnkelTem> тут - на #debian
[18:55] <OnkelTem> ведь главное, потом по-бырому восстановить
[18:55] <OnkelTem> s/,//
[18:55] <bledniy> OnkelTem: man update-rc.d
[18:55] <OnkelTem> да не, говорю же, потом восстанавливать как
[18:56] <bledniy> OnkelTem: man update-rc.d
[18:56] <OnkelTem> да хватит уже
[18:56] <bledniy> да прочитай уже мануал, чтоб вопросы не задавать ))
[18:56] <OnkelTem> да читал я его
[18:56] <OnkelTem> все это барахло не подразумевает восстановления
[18:56] <bledniy> плохо читал, раз так думаешь
[18:56] <OnkelTem> rcconf, sysv-rc-conf, bum и ваш этот update-rc.d
[18:57] <OnkelTem> ок, скажи, как потом восстановить?
[18:57] <bledniy> Insert links using the defaults:
[18:57] <bledniy> update-rc.d foobar defaults
[18:57] <OnkelTem> и причем тут default?
[18:57] <OnkelTem> defaults
[18:58] <OnkelTem> в скрипте /etc/init.d/script прописан заголовок
[18:58] <bledniy> мда, тяжёлый случай :)
[18:58] <OnkelTem> ты уверен, что update-rc.d его прочтет?
[18:58] <OnkelTem> загляни ты в скрипты, посмотри блок ###
[18:59] <OnkelTem> например, в скрипте postgree написано:
[18:59] <bledniy> update-rc.d -n postgresql defaults
[18:59] <OnkelTem> Default-Start: 2 3 4 5
[18:59] <OnkelTem> Default-Stop 0 1 6
[18:59] <bledniy> OnkelTem: просто выполни эту команду ^^
[19:08] <OnkelTem> bledniy: позапускал. Оно не восстанавливает как было
[19:09] <OnkelTem> чтд
[19:15] <bledniy> а что делает?
[19:15] <OnkelTem> а, ставит всем 20 например
[19:15] <OnkelTem> и ругается, если в хедере написаны левелы не дефолтные
[19:15] <OnkelTem> и создает так, как по дефолту
[19:15] <OnkelTem> а не как написано в скрипте
[19:16] <bledniy> а оно тебе сильно надо как в скрипте?
[19:17] <bledniy> делай тогда руками - update-rc.d foobar start 30 2 3 4 5 . stop 70 0 1 6 .
[19:17] <OnkelTem> Мне надо, чтобы можно было в точности восстановить как было.
[19:17] <OnkelTem> ну я так сейчас и сделал (специально запомнив, какие числа там стояли)
[19:18] <OnkelTem> короче, проще (проще!): sudo mv /etc/rc2.d/S19postgresql /etc/rc2.d/_S19postgresql
[19:18] <OnkelTem> всегда можно зайти и посмотреть, что ты там переименовывал
[19:18] <OnkelTem> old school!
[19:18] <bledniy> тогда будут проблемы при обновлении/удалении сервиса
[19:19] <OnkelTem> я думаю update-rc.d просто восстановит ссылку да и все
[19:19] <OnkelTem> ладно, фиг с ним, какой-то фигней занимаемся))
[19:19] <bledniy> нет. Если руками переимновывал, то ошибку выдаст
[19:20] <OnkelTem> в мане написано, если ссылка есть - не создает, если нет - создает
[19:22] <bledniy> по крайней мере при удалении. При обновлении уже не помню
[19:22] <OnkelTem> а вообще, это какое-то жлобство — делать пакет для Убунты и не создать /etc/init/postgresql.conf
[19:23] <bledniy> ща вообще на системд будет переход ))
[19:23] <OnkelTem> ээ, это то что в debia jessie сделано?
[19:24] <OnkelTem> типа systemctl disable foobar.service?
[19:24] <OnkelTem> а давно пора стандартизировать все это хозяйство
[19:25] <OnkelTem> Кстати. Хочу поделиться открытием. Познакомился с такой темой, как docker. Раньше не знал. Вроде очень крутая вещь
[19:25] <OnkelTem> По сути, это, наверное, одна из лучших вещей, которые сейчас есть в Linux
[19:26] <bledniy> спасибо, очень познавательно ))
[19:27] <OnkelTem> bledniy: ну, я же не знаю, в курсе ты или нет. Ну сорри
[19:27] <OnkelTem> короче, это виртуалки без виртуалок
[19:27] <OnkelTem> для меня было открытием, что оказывается все ядра примерно одинаковы, так что можно все линуксы считать за один
[19:28] <bledniy> он неймспейсами рулит чтоли?
[19:28] <OnkelTem> https://hub.docker.com/explore/
[19:28] <OnkelTem> вот список официальных (и не только) имаджей. Можно влепить на свою убунту сколько угодно дистров других. И они будут жить в отдельных "папочках"
[19:30] <OnkelTem> концепция такая. Скачал имадж. Запускаешь — получаешь т.н. контейнер (по сути - root fs). Причем ты его можешь доводить, править там файлы, конфиги. Потом раз - сохраняешь, и получаешь новый имадж уже с твоими изменениями
[19:30] <OnkelTem> кроме этого, есть виртуальный стек из сетевых устройств - то есть между поднятыми контейнерами организовываешь локалку как тебе надо. Но по умолчанию оно итак нормально болтается в сети 172.17.*
[19:32] <OnkelTem> docker start ubuntu - запускает контейнер "ubuntu". Внутрь заходишь - docker exec -it ubuntu bash
[19:32] <OnkelTem> Причем он и на винде и на macos работает :)
[19:32] <OnkelTem> но там, понятно, настоящая виртуальная линуксовая машинка поднимается
[19:33] <OnkelTem> но одна на всех, что, снова - экономия
[19:34] <OnkelTem> Для чего нужно, например? Ну вот настроил ты хитрый серверный софт - апачи с конфигами, пхп нужной версии, доп библиотек кастомных... И надо тебе это кому-то отдать
[19:34] <OnkelTem> и тот кто-то должен все также настроить, в общем - убиться можно
[19:34] <OnkelTem> а так выдал ему docker image, и все :)
[19:37] <OnkelTem> А, ну и из крутого - понятно, масштабирование. Делаешь, к примеру, images для веб-сервера, сервера бд и еще чего-нибудь. Все это дело связываешь между собой. Теперь чтобы это запустить надо скачать и запустить 3 контейнера. Так вот,
[19:37] <OnkelTem> они могут быть как одной машине (внутри - виртуальная сетка же), так и на разных.
[19:38] <OnkelTem> Все, я выговорился :) Надо поработать.
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[11:15] <cjwatson> wgrant: Thanks for approving https://code.launchpad.net/~cjwatson/launchpad/twisted-13.0.0-p2/+merge/277642 . Are you happy with its dependency https://code.launchpad.net/~cjwatson/lazr.sshserver/moduli/+merge/277641 as well?
[11:21] <wgrant> cjwatson: Indeed.
[11:33] <cjwatson> thanks
[20:17] <blr> lifeless: would it make sense to declare all deps in requirements.txt with '>=', install from our local sdist repo, and then freeze those requirements to constraints.txt?
[20:38] <lifeless> blr: sure, thats roughly what generate-constraints in openstack does
[20:39] <blr> lifeless: yep, that seems sensible, and will allow us to play nicely with RTD etc.
[20:39] <blr> thanks
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2015-11-18-#ubuntu-it
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[08:52] <David983> ciao a tutti, sono nuovo di ubuntu. Ho effettuato l'aggiornamento di sistema a ubuntu 16, perchè ubuntu mi aveva detto che era disponibile questo aggiornamento. ma poi ho scoperto che questa versione non è ancora stabile (se ho capito bene). è possibile tornare alla versione 15? , o comunque cosa mi consigliate di fare? grazie
[08:53] <Carlin0> a 16 ?
[08:53] <David983> ubuntu 16.04 LTS
[08:54] <ExPBoy> ancora non è uscito
[08:54] <Carlin0> e ubuntu ti avrebbe detto che era disponibile l'aggiornamento , o l'hai letto in qualche blog ?
[08:54] <David983> non ho letto blog, ho chiesto se c'erano aggiornamenti e mi ha proposto questa versione
[08:55] <ExPBoy> David983, è impossibile che ti abba proposto aggiornamento a 16.04 (04=aprile)
[08:56] <Carlin0> quoto ExPBoy ... raccontala giusta David983 ...
[08:56] <ExPBoy> oppure non raccontarla
[08:56] <David983> ok, però se guardo in dettagli come mai c'è scritto ubuntu 16.04
[08:56] <ExPBoy> !troll | David983
[08:56] <ubot-it> David983: Trollare è un comportamento considerato fastidioso dagli altri utenti del canale. Questo include andare offtopic o chiedere la stessa cosa piu volte ottenendo risposte ma non considerarle, e questi non sono i soli comportamenti che possono essere considerati da troll. Per favore leggi /msg ubot-it irc - se questo riguarda te, potresti ritrovarti fuori dal canale.
[08:57] <David983> scusate, vi ho detto che sono nuovo. mi trovo in una situazioned el tutto nuova e sn in difficoltà
[09:41] <Roby-SI> Disk /dev/sda: 99.8 GB, 99830223360 bytes
[09:41] <Roby-SI> 255 heads, 63 sectors/track, 12137 cylinders, total 194980905 sectors
[09:41] <Roby-SI> Units = sectors of 1 * 512 = 512 bytes
[09:41] <Roby-SI> Sector size (logical/physical): 512 bytes / 512 bytes
[09:41] <Roby-SI> I/O size (minimum/optimal): 512 bytes / 512 bytes
[09:41] <Roby-SI> Disk identifier: 0x18ad4ab5
[09:41] <Roby-SI> Device Boot Start End Blocks Id System
[09:42] <ExPBoy> uhm
[10:07] <FCMI> buongiorno... domanda stupida... perchè in fase di boot con chiavetta inserita per installazione ubuntu, nelle opzioni di boot mi prende solo uefi usb e non solo usb.?
[10:15] <FCMI> ho settato tutte le opzioni possibili
[11:10] <FCMI> buongiorno... domanda stupida... perchè in fase di boot con chiavetta inserita per installazione ubuntu, nelle opzioni di boot mi prende solo uefi usb e non solo usb.? ho settato tutte le opzioni possibili
[12:32] <neramarea> buongiorno, popolo. domandona: ho un application/x-executable in /. se ci clicco su in nautilus (aperto come root), funge. vorrei evitare di lanciare nautilus come root; come aggiungo un "lancia come root" al menu contestuale?
[13:01] <maxer> salve a tutti
[13:02] <maxer> ho aggiornato linux e ora quando entro in win mi dice
[13:02] <maxer> no such device
[13:05] <ExPBoy> !dettagli | maxer
[13:05] <ubot-it> maxer: Per favore dacci dettagli completi. Per esempio "Ho un problema con..., sto usando Ubuntu versione... con interfaccia.... Quando provo a fare..., ottengo questo output: ..., ma mi sarei aspettato che facesse..."
[13:10] <krabador> maxer, "no such device" a cosa ?
[13:10] <krabador> susu maxer
[13:10] <ExPBoy> eh
[13:11] <ExPBoy> e che linux hai aggiornato e come?
[13:22] <calamaro> salve, non riesco ad installare gimp, mi dice: Le dipendenze dei pacchetti non possono essere risolte
[13:26] <krabador> calamaro, sudo apt-get install pastebinit
[13:26] <krabador> calamaro, sudo apt-get update | pastebinit
[13:28] <calamaro> krabador, http://paste.ubuntu.com/13329862/
[13:31] <krabador> calamaro, cat /etc/apt/sources.list | pastebinit
[13:31] <krabador> ls -la /etc/apt/sources.list.d | pastebinit
[13:33] <calamaro> krabador, http://paste.ubuntu.com/13329900/
[13:33] <calamaro> krabador, http://paste.ubuntu.com/13329903/
[13:41] <neramarea> ola. ho un dannato pacchetto che non vuol saperne di disinstallarsi... http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/13329975/
[13:45] <neramarea> e http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/13330000/
[13:53] <krabador> calamaro, tualatrix-ppa-trusty , che cosa ha installato?
[13:54] <calamaro> krabador, seguivo una guida post installazione, ho installato, amule, vlc, e qualche tema extra...
[13:54] <neramarea> quelli mi servono, sono ubuntu-tweak, grub-customizer e supergrubmanager
[13:55] <neramarea> ah, scusa, krabador, pensavo parlassi con me
[13:55] <krabador> neramarea, quindi se hai martellato anche tu con ppa, il minimo è quello che ti succese
[13:55] <krabador> *de
[13:56] <neramarea> sì, krabador, ma il ppa in questione ahimè l'ho rimosso (da scemo) prima di disinstallare. e ora stoczz di script nautilus-open-terminal non se ne vuole andare...
[13:57] <krabador> neramarea, sudo apt-get install pastebinit
[13:57] <neramarea> pronto
[13:58] <krabador> calamaro, dpkg -l | grep gimp | pastebinti
[13:58] <krabador> calamaro, dpkg -l | grep gimp | pastebinit
[13:58] <krabador> calamaro, il secondo , non il primo
[13:58] <krabador> neramarea, cat /etc/apt/sources.list | pastebinit
[13:58] <krabador> neramarea, ls -la /etc/apt/sources.list.d | pastebinit
[13:58] <krabador> neramarea, sudo apt-get update | pastebinit
[13:59] <neramarea> http://paste.ubuntu.com/13330141/
[13:59] <calamaro> krabador, dice, si sta tentando di inviare un documento vuoto, in chiusura
[13:59] <neramarea> http://paste.ubuntu.com/13330146/
[14:00] <neramarea> http://paste.ubuntu.com/13330156/
[14:00] <krabador> calamaro, sudo apt-cache showpkg gimp | pastebinti
[14:00] <krabador> calamaro, sudo apt-cache showpkg gimp | pastebinit
[14:01] <calamaro> krabador, http://paste.ubuntu.com/13330170/
[14:01] <krabador> neramarea, "ma il ppa in questione ahimè l'ho rimosso (da scemo) prima di disinstallare" ---> reinstalla il ppa, reinstalla il pacchetto, disinstalla e rimuovi il ppa
[14:02] <neramarea> già provato, krabador
[14:02] <krabador> neramarea, e che aspetti a dirlo
[14:02] <krabador> neramarea, giochi a fare indovinelli?
[14:02] <neramarea> eh sì che son niubbo, ma no così tanto...
[14:02] <krabador> calamaro, sudo apt-get -y install gimp | pastebinit
[14:02] <neramarea> prima googlo, poi vengo a chiedere aiuto strisciando...
[14:02] <krabador> neramarea, se entri in assistenza senza dire cosa hai fatto, sei ancora peggio
[14:03] <krabador> neramarea, confermo.
[14:03] <krabador> mi devo allontanare 10 min.
[14:08] <neramarea> ok. comunque krabador, questo è quello che restituisce la reinstallazione: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/13330248/
[14:22] <neramarea_> mah... disconnesso e riconnesso e ora sono doppio...?
[14:31] <neramarea_> krabador?
[14:47] <carloxxx> sto scaricando ubuntu, come devo fare per istallarlo su un pc usato? pensavo di masterizzare il download e inserirlo nel lettore dvd, è sufficiente fare così?
[14:48] <akis24> carloxxx: devi masterizzare come immagine iso il file scaricato e poi impostare da bios l'avvio della periferica ..
[14:49] <akis24> carloxxx: sei su windows al momento ?
[14:49] <carloxxx> quindi si istalla formattando l'hd dopodiché posso subito navigare in internet per eventuali aggiornamenti ecc?
[14:50] <carloxxx> si sono su windows
[14:50] <akis24> carloxxx: prima si prova da disco live che tutto sia a posto e poi si installa volendo http://wiki.ubuntu-it.org/Hardware/DispositiviPartizioni/MasterizzareIso
[14:51] <carloxxx> sto parlando di un altro pc che ha fot....to l'hd con windows e volevo istallarci ubuntu
[14:52] <carloxxx> dopo aver sostituito l'hd con un altro usato
[14:52] <akis24> carloxxx: si certo puoi farlo ma prima conviene provare dal disco live che venga riconosciuto l'hardware ecc ecc connessione internet e via dicendo
[14:52] <carloxxx> come faccio se il pc in questione non ha so?
[14:53] <akis24> carloxxx: quando avvii il disco creato seleziona " prova ubuntu senza installare "
[14:54] <carloxxx> ok cmq in tutti i casi non funziona lo stesso, perché l'hd era lo slave per salvare i dati..
[14:54] <carloxxx> ok allora masterizzo e faccio prova live
[14:54] <akis24> carloxxx: bene
[14:54] <carloxxx> poi semmai istallo
[14:54] <carloxxx> grazie!! ;-))
[14:54] <akis24> di nulla
[15:01] <krabador> neramarea_, sudo apt-get install -f | pastebinit
[15:01] <neramarea_> krabador, ho risolto
[15:01] <krabador> bene.
[15:01] <neramarea_> sono entrato in /var/lib/dpkg/info
[15:02] <neramarea_> e ho rimosso tutto quel che riguardava open-as-administrator da lì
[15:02] <neramarea_> ...visto che il problema pareva darlo dpkg
[15:41] <Luca2015> Sono nuovo di ubuntu. Devo installare Java per vedere dei grafici. Come posso fare?
[15:42] <krabador> Luca2015, apri il terminale
[15:42] <krabador> ctrl alt t
[15:42] <Luca2015> E' aperto e ho scaricato java per Linux
[15:43] <krabador> Luca2015, che ubuntu hai?
[15:43] <Luca2015> Scusa ho aperto ora. Ho la versione 15
[15:43] <krabador> 15 quale?
[15:44] <Luca2015> 15.10
[15:47] <krabador> sudo apt-get install openjdk-8-jre icedtea-7-plugin
[15:47] <Luca2015> Scusa ma non capisco
[15:48] <krabador> copia ed incolla questo nel terminale ed invia
[15:49] <Luca2015> Ok
[15:49] <Luca2015> Sta installando
[15:50] <Luca2015> Scusami ancora una domanda. E per Flash?
[15:50] <krabador> Luca2015, quando hai installato ubuntu, eri connesso ad internet, ed hai spuntato le 2 opzioni per aggiornamenti e software di terze parti?
[15:51] <Luca2015> Lo sto provando da una chiavetta usb per verificare che funzionino tutti i programmi di cui ho bisogno
[15:54] <krabador> Luca2015, se quando installi , sei connesso, meglio con cavo lan, cosi' esorcizzi la noia di una scheda wireless di cui il driver non è stato inserito nella live, spunti quelle 2 opzioni, flash sarà già dentro il sistema operativo
[15:54] <krabador> se vuoi provare adesso in live, sudo apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree
[15:54] <krabador> riavviare il browser
[15:56] <krabador> flash non è piu' supportato in linux, adobe mantiene la versione 11.2 , solo in sicurezza, chrome ha dentro il flash aggiornato
[15:56] <krabador> e puoi usarlo con chromium installando pepperflashplugin-nonfree
[16:04] <alfaromeo159> Aiuto lubuntu mi chiede una password per il portachiavi che non ho mai messo.
[16:05] <krabador> Alexandro, a meno che distrattamente non hai accettato l'inizializzazione del portachiavi
[16:05] <krabador> alfaromeo159, ^
[16:08] <Carlin0> alfaromeo159, http://wiki.ubuntu-it.org/Sicurezza/Portachiavi#Resettare_la_password
[16:08] <alfaromeo159> ho installato lubuntu con internet via cavo, poi ho provato a vedere se funzionava ancora il wifi funzionava, ma poi mi chiede una password che non ho mai messo ed è dura ricordarsi di una cosa mai fatta
[16:09] <krabador> alfaromeo159, quando hai installato, una password l'hai impostata per forza
[16:09] <krabador> è piu' dura far presente questo all'utente
[16:09] <alfaromeo159> ho installato l'unica password che mi chiede il sistema e basta
[16:10] <krabador> esattamente
[16:10] <krabador> alfaromeo159, all'inserimento di essa non succede niente?
[16:10] <alfaromeo159> no mi dice password non accettata
[16:10] <Carlin0> alfaromeo159, segui il link che ti ho postato
[16:10] <krabador> alfaromeo159, segui il link
[16:11] <alfaromeo159> non vedo nessun indirizzo
[16:12] <krabador> alfaromeo159, susu, conta 10 messaggi indietro
[16:12] <krabador> alfaromeo159, sono con te
[16:12] <Carlin0> metti la retro :o)
[16:13] <alfaromeo159> visto con quello cancella tutto meno la password di sistema se ho ben capito
[16:14] <Carlin0> cancella quella del portachiavi , che è quella che tu non sai
[16:14] <alfaromeo159> bene provo e poi vi racconto
[16:14] <krabador> alfaromeo159, , cosa non va in "Purtroppo non è prevista una funzione di ripristino della password del portachiavi. Nel caso in cui questa venisse dimenticata, l'unico sistema possibile è cancellare l'intero contenuto del portachiavi."
[16:14] <krabador> menzionato nel link ?
[16:14] <Carlin0> e la prossima volta che te la chiede lasciala in bianco alfaromeo159
[16:20] <thereaper> buona sera, non riesco a creare un disco di installazione dell immagine iso di windows 7. startup disk creator non mi lasia selezionare quel file.. cosa sto sbagliando?
[16:21] <alfaromeo159> risposta di lubuntu rm non esiste file o directorynon esistente impossibile rimuovere però mi chiede la pasword per qualcosa che non esiste
[16:23] <Carlin0> !windows | thereaper stai sbagliando canale
[16:23] <ubot-it> thereaper stai sbagliando canale: per ricevere supporto per windows, rivolgersi al canale ##windows
[16:23] <krabador> thereaper, non si puo' fare con linux
[16:24] <thereaper> e da windows che programma si usa?
[16:25] <Carlin0> !windows | thereaper stai sbagliando canale
[16:25] <ubot-it> thereaper stai sbagliando canale: per ricevere supporto per windows, rivolgersi al canale ##windows
[16:49] <calamaro> krabador, grazie, risolto :)
[16:50] <calamaro> ho una scheda audio installata ex novo, il problema è che non riesco a sentire nulla, non so se va selezionata in qualche modo o c'è da fare qualche settaggio, fatto sta che non sento nulla (le casse funzionano!)
[17:24] <giuseppe88> ciao c'è un modo per attivare i drive proprietari da terminal
[17:24] <calamaro> avrei un problema con la scheda audio, non so perché ma non si sente nulla.
[17:24] <giuseppe88> perche dalle impostazioni non me li fa scaricare
[17:25] <giuseppe88> neppure quello del wifi mi attiva
[17:59] <pie86> buona sera ragazzi a chi posso chiedere un'informazione relativa ad un processore?
[18:26] <nkz> ciao ragazzi scusate, ho scaricato xubuntu 32bit ma non mi fa selezionare il boot all'avvio, ho già visto una guida per l'istallazione di gnu grub ma purtroppo non sono riuscito a farlo funzionare, qualcuno mi puo dare una mano?
[18:36] <untot8> buona sera!
[18:37] <untot8> ho un grosso problema nell'istallazione di xubuntu
[18:37] <untot8> qualcuno può aiutarmi?
[18:50] <Tommy90> ciao a tutti
[18:50] <Tommy90> ho errori gpg che non riesco a risolvere
[18:50] <Tommy90> W: Errore GPG: http://archive.canonical.com vivid InRelease: Le seguenti firme non sono state verificate perché la chiave pubblica non è disponibile: NO_PUBKEY 40976EAF437D05B5 NO_PUBKEY 3B4FE6ACC0B21F32
[18:51] <Tommy90> mi compare 5 volte all fine del comando sudo apt-get update
[18:57] <Tommy90> come posso eluderli ho provato tutti i codici possibili
[19:14] <gianlups> Ciao ragazzi, sono nuovo su ubuntu... una domanda, io al momento ho windows 10 ed ho scaricato ubuntu 15.10 da qui
[19:15] <gianlups> come faccio a far partire l'installazione senza pennetta usb o altro?
[19:38] <iose> Salve a tutti
[19:38] <iose> Sono un neofita di ubuntu...volevo chiedervi un aiuto per un problema
[21:37] <scott78> buonasera a tutti ho ubuntu 14.04 con interfaccia Compiz
[21:39] <scott78> buonasera a tutti ho un problema con ubuntu 14.04 con interfaccia Compiz
[21:55] <scott78> buonasera a tutti ho un proclema con interfaccia compiz ubuntu 14.04 non riesco ha cancellare due icone che ho creato sulla barra in alto
[21:56] <scott78> c siete?
[22:10] <tommy90> ciao a tutti
[22:10] <aladino> buonasera, volevo aggiornare il kernel trusty 14.04.3 ma non so come si fa...mi sapete indicare una guida e il link dove scaricare un kernel aggiornato?
[22:20] <Carlin0> aladino, il kernel si aggiorna da solo con i normali aggiornamenti
[22:21] <cristian_c> aladino: in particolare, che problemi hai con il kernel?
[22:21] <aladino> e perchè ho questo errore negli aggiornamenti?
[22:21] <aladino> No original module exists within this kernel
[22:21] <cristian_c> !veggenti
[22:21] <ubot-it> Gli utenti di questo canale non sono in possesso di poteri magici, non possiedono sfere di cristallo e non sono nemmeno veggenti. Canonical non può permettersi un corso di stregoneria per i suoi collaboratori. Si chiede quindi, gentilmente, di esprimersi in maniera chiara e molto dettagliata.
[22:21] <aladino> aggiornamento nvidia 750ti
[22:22] <aladino> mi esce solo questo messaggio "- No original module exists within this kernel"
[22:22] <aladino> e avevo pensato potesse essere un problema del kernel non aggiornato
[22:23] <cristian_c> aladino: che driver stai usando?
[22:24] <aladino> attualmente driver nvidia alla versione 346
[22:26] <tommy90> salve io ho questo tipo di problema che non riesco a risolvere W: Errore GPG: http://archive.ubuntu.com vivid InRelease: Le seguenti firme non sono state verificate perché la chiave pubblica non è disponibile: NO_PUBKEY 40976EAF437D05B5 NO_PUBKEY 3B4FE6ACC0B21F32
[22:26] <cristian_c> aladino: e come li hqi
[22:26] <aladino> solo che ho notato che non mi vanno gli aggiornamenti nvidia ne tanto meno mi funziona l'accelerazione... sudo lshw -c display | grep driver
[22:26] <aladino> configuration: driver=nvidia latency=0
[22:26] <cristian_c> aladino: e come li hai installati?
[22:27] <aladino> scaricato il .run, terminato lightdm e installato .run
[22:27] <cristian_c> tommy90: cat -n /etc/apt/sources.list && ls -l /etc/sources.list.d/
[22:28] <cristian_c> aladino: beh, chiaro, perché hai scaricato il run?
[22:29] <aladino> quello che mi dava il sito della nvidia
[22:31] <tommy90> https://www.filepicker.io/api/file/yg2gbsFsQeeuiM1QXxkd
[22:31] <cristian_c> aladino: beh, chiaro, perché hai scaricato il run?
[22:31] <tommy90> questo e quello che ha fatto con il tuo comando
[22:32] <aladino> cristina_c ho fatto la ricerca del driver sul sito nvidia e danno solo il formato .run
[22:32] <aladino> * criastian_c
[22:33] <tommy90> comunque ti ringrazio da 5 errori tutti li stessi ora sono 3
[22:34] <cristian_c> aladino: no, dico , ma perché scaricare il driver dal sito nvidia?
[22:34] <cristian_c> tommy90: perché hai utilizzato sudo?
[22:35] <tommy90> dopo si
[22:35] <aladino> perchè non lo tenevo nei repository? o da quel che ricordo non c'era
[22:36] <cristian_c> tommy90: ?
[22:36] <cristian_c> aladino: la nvidia 750 è supportata dai driver proprietari
[22:37] <cristian_c> aladino: quindi che bisogno avevi di scaricare il driver?
[22:37] <tommy90> si cmq l ho dato con sudo
[22:37] <aladino> e mo se volessi risolvere come si fa? (si vedeva uno schifo prima di scaricare il driver comunque)
[22:37] <cristian_c> tommy90: perché hai utilizzato sudo?
[22:37] <cristian_c> aladino: definisci 'si vedeva uno schifo'
[22:38] <tommy90> ho sbagliato è così grave?
[22:39] <cristian_c> tommy90: avevo soltanto chiesto il motivo
[22:39] <cristian_c> tommy90: ls -l /etc/apt/sources.list.d/
[22:40] <tommy90> grazie a te sto facendo qualche passo avanti mi stanno facendo penare questi errori gpg
[22:42] <tommy90> https://www.filepicker.io/api/file/2X8rMectThy12sieEYjW
[22:45] <cristian_c> tommy90: peccato tu abbia digitato lo stesso comando di prima
[22:46] <cristian_c> tommy90: al posto di quello che ti ho appena chiesto
[22:47] <tommy90> https://www.filepicker.io/api/file/q9ujfjURK1HwGJ0UoPaw
[22:47] <tommy90> scusa hai ragione questo è quello giusto
[22:49] <cristian_c> tommy90: vediamo, li conto...
[22:51] <tommy90> ahahahah è sicuro salato
[22:52] <cristian_c> tommy90: 42 ppa
[22:53] <cristian_c> complimenti, hai superato il record di neramarea di 32 ppa singoli
[22:53] <cristian_c> di due giorni fa
[22:53] <cristian_c> relativamente al premio 'martellate al pc awards 2015'
[22:54] <Carlin0> oltretutto ha dei ppa di ben 3 release diverse
[22:55] <cristian_c> Carlin0: ne ha due diversi di virtualbox, ad esempio
[22:56] <cristian_c> e due diversi di gnome 3 per trusty
[22:56] <cristian_c> di cui uno staging
[22:57] <cristian_c> Carlin0: oh, c'è anche un ppa nightly di cinnamon, per rendere il tutto ancora più instabile
[22:57] <Carlin0> non si fa mancare nulla
[22:58] <Carlin0> un ppa per conky ? ma quando mai ...
[22:59] <cristian_c> Carlin0: ah, ovviamente ci sono i ppa swat per i driver video
[23:00] <cristian_c> mmm, ci sono anche questi guardando meglio: oibaf-ubuntu-graphics-drivers
[23:00] <cristian_c> (two is mei che uan)
[23:01] <cristian_c> Carlin0: infine , ti faccio notare che ci sono ben due ppa diversi dedicati a tor
[23:01] <cristian_c> (per par condicio)
[23:02] <Carlin0> ma come si fa ...
[23:03] <cristian_c> Carlin0: diciamo che due o più ppa dedicati allo stesso programma forse servono per decidere qual è il migliore, quello che non esplode per primo
[23:04] <Carlin0> mischiano per benino le librerie
[23:06] <tommy90> ahahahahahah
[23:07] <tommy90> dai ragazzi sono alle prime armi con ubuntu
[23:07] <tommy90> sbagliando si impara
[23:10] <tommy90> sono passato ad ubuntu da poco un anno e qualche mese e lo gia fatto esplodere qualche volta
[23:10] <cristian_c> perseverare diabolicum est
[23:13] <tommy90> ma si puo fare qualcosa?
[23:14] <cristian_c> !ripristino | tommy90
[23:14] <ubot-it> tommy90: Per ripristinare un sistema danneggiato: http://wiki.ubuntu-it.org/Installazione/RipristinoInstallazione
[23:16] <tommy90> ma non posso fare purge sulle ppa
[23:16] <cristian_c> tommy90: puoi provare
[23:16] <cristian_c> per il resto....
[23:16] <cristian_c> !ppa-purge | tommy90
[23:16] <ubot-it> tommy90: Per disabilitare una PPA dai tuoi sorgenti e ripristinare i pacchetti di default di Ubuntu, installare ppa-purge e utilizzare il comando: sudo ppa-purge ppa: <repository-name> / <subdirectory> - Per ulteriori informazioni, vedere http://www.webupd8.org/2009/12/remove-ppa-repositories-via-command.html
[23:17] <tommy90> grazie
[23:36] <tommy90> su altro software mi potete dare le righe apt giuste da dove devo fare gli aggiornamenti
[23:37] <cristian_c> tommy90: che aggiornamenti? Che righe?
[23:37] <cristian_c> !sources
[23:37] <ubot-it> http://wiki.ubuntu-it.org/Repository/SourcesList
[23:42] <tommy90> nella gestione aggiornamenti dove c'è altro software ho cancellato la riga di canonical
[23:44] <cristian_c> !dettagli | tommy90
[23:44] <ubot-it> tommy90: Per favore dacci dettagli completi. Per esempio "Ho un problema con..., sto usando Ubuntu versione... con interfaccia.... Quando provo a fare..., ottengo questo output: ..., ma mi sarei aspettato che facesse..."
[23:47] <tommy90> https://www.filepicker.io/api/file/FdSmybhSQizHLijsNhlw
[23:48] <tommy90> la mia versione e la 15.04 non ho queste due scritte
[23:49] <Carlin0> leva la spunta da sorgenti tommy90
[23:51] <tommy90> cosa codice sorgente ho quei due selezionati in foto?
[23:52] <Carlin0> codice sorgente non serve , puoi levare la spunta
[23:53] <Carlin0> tommy90, cat /etc/apt/sources.list
[23:53] <Carlin0> tommy90, metti in pastebin
[23:53] <Carlin0> !paste
[23:53] <ubot-it> http://paste.ubuntu.com/ servizio che permette di incollare lunghi output senza intasare il canale; incollare il testo, indicare il nick, premere paste e postare in canale l'indirizzo della pagina
[23:56] <tommy90> https://www.filepicker.io/api/file/XXPs8YCXSzC4T5cOl7Z4
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ubuntu-chat
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2024-05-13T22:11:18.519695
| 2015-11-18T00:00:00 |
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2015-11-18-#ubuntu-es
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[11:03] <noelia> Hola a todos/as
[11:03] <noelia> Tengo algunos paquetes rotos y no sé cómo arreglarlo
[11:03] <noelia> ¿Me podéis ayudar?
[12:06] <noelia> Hola de nuevo
[12:30] <Karvers> Necesito ayuda con Kubuntu 15.10
[12:31] <Karvers> acabo de instalarlo en mi sobremesa y no para de reiniciarse antes de entrar en Kubuntu
[12:32] <Karvers> Mi Placa es una Asus P6T con un Intel I7 Grafica Nvidia GT210 y 2HDD de 2TB con 8GB de RAM ... Mi problema viene con la Version Kubuntu 15.10 de 64 Bits
[12:33] <Karvers> Hola?
[12:38] <Karvers> Necesito ayuda con Kubuntu 15.10 . Acabo de instalarlo en mi sobremesa y no para de reiniciarse antes de entrar en Kubuntu. Mi Placa es una Asus P6T con un Intel I7 Grafica Nvidia GT210 y 2HDD de 2TB con 8GB de RAM ... Mi problema viene con la Version Kubuntu 15.10 de 64 Bits
[12:52] <Karvers> Alguien me ayuda?
[17:34] <successus> salud o/
[17:47] <successus> salud o/
[20:19] <alberto_> Hola a todos/as
[20:19] <alberto_> He borrado algunos PPAs con ppa-purge, pero todavía quedan archivos en /etc/apt/sources.list.d... ¿Los borro también?
[20:20] <mimecar> muevelos a tu carpeta de usuario por precaución
[22:50] <successus_> salud, hasta otro rato o/
[23:52] <x23> no puedo iniciar netbeans
[23:53] <x23> uso OpenJDK 64-Bit Server VM (build 24.85-b03, mixed mode)
[23:53] <x23> netbeans ide 8.1 y ubuntu 14.04
[23:53] <x23> le doy clic al icono y nunca arranca
[23:56] <x23> alguno
[23:56] <x23> ?
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ubuntu-chat
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2024-05-13T22:11:18.527491
| 2015-11-18T00:00:00 |
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"Karvers",
"alberto_",
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2015-11-18-#ubuntu-us-wi
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[00:47] <h00k> mikeputnam:D
[00:48] <h00k> that was pretty funny, I did not know you did that for tmux
[00:49] <tsimonq2> h00k!
[00:49] <tsimonq2> hey!
[00:49] <tsimonq2> h00k: what do YOU use for an IRC client?
[01:03] <h00k> tsimonq2: irssi in a screen on my VPS
[01:03] <tsimonq2> ooh
[01:04] <tsimonq2> I use tmux and irssi!
[01:04] <tsimonq2> so we both use irssi!
[01:04] <tsimonq2> ooh!
[01:04] <h00k> oho
[01:04] <h00k> No tmux here, I've actually never used it
[01:04] <tsimonq2> it's awesome
[01:04] <tsimonq2> although same functions as screen
[01:06] <h00k> I used Terminator back in the day
[01:07] <tsimonq2> oh?
[01:07] * tsimonq2 started using Ubuntu in February
[01:25] <h00k> Ooh, it's a different terminal, it allowed me to click/interact with screens/split it similar to screen, but without having to learn/memorize keybindings
[01:25] <h00k> so I learned Terminator for a while, it was pretty sweet.
[01:34] <tsimonq2> nice
[01:35] <tsimonq2> h00k: you read the email(s)?
[01:36] <h00k> tsimonq2: Yep!
[01:59] <tsimonq2> h00k: all 5000000 of them?
[02:03] <h00k> tsimonq2: probably like 2 or 3 ;)
[02:03] <h00k> 50000 lines of text, mebbe
[02:27] <tsimonq2> h00k: but mainly, the Hangout announcement, the newsletter, and the Kernel team update?
[02:34] <h00k> tsimonq2: I read the hangout announcement (the really long one), newsletter, and kernel team, yep
[02:41] <tsimonq2> good :)
[19:19] <h00k> mornin
[19:45] <tsimonq2> hey sir h00k
[19:52] <tsimonq2> o/ mikeputnam
[19:56] <lostatwork> afternoon
[20:08] <mikeputnam> holla
[20:24] <lostatwork> i haven't use ubuntu in a while but with 15.10 are web apps not working anymore with firefox ?
[21:07] <tsimonq2> lostatwork: hmm haven't noticed it
[21:08] <tsimonq2> lostatwork: but yet again, are you running the latest wily?
[21:09] <tsimonq2> h00k: Jessica put this in the Memes Hangout, wanted to point this out
[21:09] <tsimonq2> h00k: http://is.gd/XEOpfn
[21:17] <lostatwork> yeah that is why I said 15.10
[21:17] <lostatwork> or yes wily
[21:17] <tsimonq2> lostatwork: no, I mean is your computer updated?
[21:17] <tsimonq2> lostatwork: either way, to update it run sudo apt update && sudo apt -y dist-upgrade
[21:18] <lostatwork> yeah
[21:18] <tsimonq2> hmm
[21:18] <lostatwork> fresh install fully updated
[21:18] <tsimonq2> maybe talk to the folks in #ubuntu
[22:34] <h00k> !info libunity-webapps
[22:34] <tsimonq2> oh HAI h00k
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ubuntu-chat
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2024-05-13T22:11:18.532142
| 2015-11-18T00:00:00 |
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2015-11-18-#juju
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[08:01] <gnuoy> jamespage, https://code.launchpad.net/~gnuoy/charms/trusty/cisco-vpp/amulet/+merge/277787 if you get a moment
[08:48] <jamespage> gnuoy, merged
[08:48] <gnuoy> ta
[09:43] <jamespage> gnuoy, https://code.launchpad.net/~james-page/charms/trusty/odl-controller/doc-updates/+merge/277797
[09:45] <gnuoy> jamespage, don't you need to reference the config.yaml at line 44 of the diff?
[09:45] <jamespage> gnuoy, yes pushed
[09:45] <gnuoy> ta
[09:49] <gnuoy> jamespage, approved
[10:00] <jamespage> gnuoy, I'm working on refreshes to the bundles for liberty and the 15.10 charm release this morning - we should add that to the release checklist
[10:01] <gnuoy> ack, good catch
[10:03] <gnuoy> jamespage, done
[10:23] <jamespage> gnuoy, mind if I do a trivial on all of our charms for "maintainer: OpenStack Charmers <[email protected]>"
[10:23] <jamespage> ?
[10:23] <gnuoy> jamespage, please do, thanks
[10:55] <jamespage> gnuoy, done
[10:55] <jamespage> gnuoy, I tied some pretty crappy summary and description bits at the same time
[10:56] <jamespage> tided rather
[10:57] <gnuoy> sounds good, thanks
[11:14] <jamespage> gnuoy, can you sanity check:
[11:14] <jamespage> https://code.launchpad.net/~james-page/charms/bundles/openstack-base/bundle/+merge/277798
[11:14] <jamespage> and
[11:14] <jamespage> https://code.launchpad.net/~james-page/charms/bundles/openstack-telemetry/bundle/+merge/277799
[11:14] <jamespage> I've just deployed telemetry in dellstack and run through the README ok
[11:14] <jamespage> telemetry == base + ceilometer
[11:17] <gnuoy> 'num_units: 0' looks odd but since you've deployed with it is looks like it does no harm for subordinates
[11:17] <jamespage> gnuoy, thats a gui-ism
[11:17] <gnuoy> jamespage, why are the mcast ports explicitly stated for a couple of services?
[11:17] <jamespage> gnuoy, again I have not idea why the gui elected to add those...
[11:18] <gnuoy> haha
[11:18] <jamespage> they could be dropped
[11:20] <jamespage> gnuoy, charmstore does some verification of bundles
[11:20] <jamespage> https://jujucharms.com/u/james-page/openstack-base
[11:20] <jamespage> and https://jujucharms.com/u/james-page/openstack-telemetry
[11:20] <jamespage> that validates the format and the charm revs...
[11:20] <gnuoy> the bundles look ok to me
[11:23] <jamespage> gnuoy, ok
[11:23] <jamespage> thanks
[16:10] <kwmonroe> hey folks - what's the difference between "destroy-environment local" and "destroy-environment local --force"? help tells me that force destroys "directly through the env provider", but i don't know what that means for local.
[18:30] <asanjar1> kwmonroe: hi
[18:30] <kwmonroe> hey asanjar1
[18:31] <asanjar1> kwmonroe: thanks for v9 version. Maria's team could use you onsite for few hours to resolve the remaining issues.. do you have time? I have already asked arosales
[18:32] <kwmonroe> asanjar1: is the caffetteria food any good?
[18:32] <kwmonroe> (and yeah, i can be there around 1:45 this afternoon)
[18:32] <asanjar1> kwmonroe: I wounder if there is something unique with their environment
[18:32] <asanjar1> kwmonroe: no man, it SUCKS
[18:33] <asanjar1> kwmonroe: I am losing weight
[18:33] <asanjar1> okay let me ping here
[20:01] <jcastro> anyone have a tldr on the current state of the jenkins charm?
[20:01] <jcastro> it hasn't been touched for over a year so it's either really awesome or horrible. :)
[20:05] <jcastro> huh wait a minute, it is updated, the jujucharms changelog is broken?!
[20:06] <lazypower> jcastro - correct. its been receiving some attention. The changelog in the store has been silently sometimes-functional due to the v3->v4 transition
[20:08] <jrwren> does juju support ipv6? I can't seem to juju ssh to a machine with ipv6 public-address the proxy-ssh netcat fails. http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/13334236/
[20:09] <jrwren> *doh* nevenmind. i was misinterpreting the message. works fine
[20:15] <lazypower> jrwren woo! \o/
[20:21] <jcastro> lazypower: ack, filed a bug
[20:26] <jrwren> any write amulet tests which execute on an ipv6 environment? :)
[20:52] <beisner> o/ jcastro, jenkins charm has action in the review queue to, to bring feature parity of the python rewrite back up to le ole bash precise jenkins charm.
[20:52] <beisner> too, even.
[20:55] <jcastro> beisner: do you guys maintain it? you guys being the openstackers
[20:56] <beisner> jcastro, no. but we consume an old diverged fork, and would like to switch to consuming a converged, updated, works-for-everyone version, ie. the python rewrite + back-filled features.
[20:56] <beisner> jcastro, so, by virtue, contributing to the thing, testing the thing, making proposals of the thing, could be pretty close to "maintaining" ;-)
[20:59] <jrwren> bash charms <3
[21:01] <beisner> :)
[22:36] <adam_g> hey, ive got a charm questino wrt coordination between two services. i have service A that will eventually get a relation to B. when it does, B will do some stuff on A's API. before it can, service A needs a complete relation to service 1 and 2 (say, DB and message queue)
[22:37] <adam_g> is there a good way to interrogate that on B's side, short of adding some data in the relation settings exported by A that B can use as a test?
[22:37] <adam_g> its been a while since ive juju'd, but i remember dealing with this often. wondering if a good practice has come up since
[22:38] <adam_g> jamespage, maybe you know
[22:40] <mgz> adam_g: I think the normal way is that B doesn't set it's api details on the B-A relation till it has B-1 and B-2 relations up and whatever real interfaces for those up and ready
[22:40] <mgz> so, A will not get the relation config stuff it needs to start the api poking till B is really ready to act on it
[22:41] <mgz> juju now has nice reporting in status where a charm can say it is "blocked" for these sorts of situations
[22:41] <adam_g> mgz, well, thats complicated by the fact that the API endpoint isn't advertised via relation, its published into a catalog (read: keystone)
[22:42] <adam_g> mgz, ya, im looking at the status stuff now in the openstack charms. will have to go find the docs on that
[22:44] <marcoceppi> adam_g: there really isn't a way to interogate b's relations, Juju doesn't set up that kind of dependency train, otherwise A becomes co-dependant to Bs architecture. Relation data is the best way to handle this
[22:44] <mgz> adam_g: https://jujucharms.com/docs/1.24/reference-status is some of it, there are some new tools for setting that from hooks
[22:45] <adam_g> marcoceppi, yeah, was hoping to get around it without having to extend existing stuff
[22:45] <mgz> adam_g: if you can't set the api details directly, you can just have a api-ready: bool type thing on the relation config
[22:45] <adam_g> mgz, thats what i was thinking, thanks
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[00:28] <xubuntu33w> desktop will not change time, is this normal?
[00:30] <xubuntu33w> time is 4 hrs ahead even in the correct zone
[00:50] <krytarik> xubuntu33w: Tried relogging in yet?
[03:31] <xubuntu721> How do I change my wallpaper
[05:11] <kernelcruncher> I installed dolphin in my xubuntu install, but on opening it's missing icons and function
[05:12] <kernelcruncher> is it possible synaptic didn't pull in all requires?
[05:13] <kernelcruncher> I know, you are wondering... why do I need dolphin
[05:14] <kernelcruncher> Well for some reason it's the only UI that will ssh to my server
[05:14] <kernelcruncher> that's using sftp or fish
[05:15] <kernelcruncher> I can ssh in a terminal but not in thunar
[12:09] <maijin> Hello guys, i've just updated 15.04->15.10. Only way i can use my laptop (T440s) right now is using rescue. When I boot on normal mode it get stuck on : successfuly decrypted disk (after typing password).
[14:29] <Daleus> Afternoon :)
[14:31] <Daleus> Nouveau on 15.10 for me is broken out of the box (only supports 2 monitors) but works 100% out of the box on 15.04. Currently I am installing a fresh 15.04 and I am planning on pinning the nouveau packages and then doing the release upgrade
[14:31] <Daleus> Surely this is an awful solution to a stupid problem - anyone have any better ideas?
[15:31] <Daleus> okay, so holding libdrm-nouveau2 and xserver-xorg-video-nouveau from 15.04 while upgrading to 15.10 was a bad idea. It didn't help & then caused graphical glitches. Am I stuck on 15.04 forever?
[15:49] <saud> hello guys
[15:49] <Daleus> hello
[15:49] <saud> i have a proplem with apt
[15:50] <Daleus> saud, I'm glad we could solve that for you..
[15:50] <JohnnyComeL8ly> saud, you need to state your specific issue with APT.
[15:51] <Daleus> JohnnyComeL8ly, he's gone :)
[15:51] <JohnnyComeL8ly> Oh, duh....
[16:27] <xubuntu14w> Hello. I'm completely new to Linux.
[16:36] <JohnnyComeL8ly> xubuntu14w is also new to IRC, in all likeliness.
[20:05] <JohnnyComeL8ly> krytarik, isn't gmusicbrowser good enough for audio, and Parole good enough for Video? I'm wondering why https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/xubuntu-x-development says that xubuntu-team hasn't decided on a default media player
[20:06] <krytarik> JohnnyComeL8ly: We're thinking about dropping gmusicbrowser - looks like it will be.
[20:17] <JohnnyComeL8ly> krytarik, any idea about what the new choice is?
[20:23] <flocculant> there won't be a new choice before 16.10
[20:25] <JohnnyComeL8ly> Ok, thanks, flocculant.
[20:26] <JohnnyComeL8ly> But, is there a group that is going to be selected from?
[20:26] <flocculant> there's a spec linked on that blueprint
[20:26] <flocculant> but this is offtopic for this channel :)
[20:26] <JohnnyComeL8ly> K
[20:30] <flocculant> JohnnyComeL8ly: actually it's on a wily spec
[22:05] <max12345> entify WOWdesuNON
[22:05] <max12345> woooops
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2015-11-18-#ubuntu-uk
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[02:33] <daftykins> just seen the best thing on youtube in a while: http://i.imgur.com/HnGcu4l.png
[02:58] <diddledan> yawn
[07:05] <diddledan> yawn
[08:04] <MooDoo> morning all
[08:09] <brobostigon> morning boys and girls.
[08:10] <TwistedLucidity> Is it home time yet?
[08:11] <TwistedLucidity> Oh, wait, it's not even start time. :-(
[08:11] <MooDoo> you as well eh TwistedLucidity ?
[08:12] <TwistedLucidity> Yup. At least I'm off Thurs/Fri. Woo!
[08:18] <MooDoo> :p
[09:09] <davmor2> Morning all you wondrous technohippies
[09:11] <brobostigon> :)
[10:04] <JamesTait> Good morning all; happy Wednesday, and happy Education Support Professionals Day! 😃
[10:16] <MooDoo> morning davmor2
[10:17] <davmor2> MooDoo: you windows abuser you ;)
[10:17] <MooDoo> davmor2: :
[10:17] <MooDoo> p:p
[10:18] <davmor2> JamesTait: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=34ZmKbe5oG4
[10:19] <davmor2> I think that would make the Education Support Professionals happy that or https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Oo8QzDHimQ
[10:20] <czajkowski> goood morning
[10:21] * zmoylan-pi looks at weather forecast for ireland and wonders how much czajkowski pays for travel insurance... :-)
[10:22] <davmor2> zmoylan-pi: more than a pound less than a million like the rest of us :)
[10:25] <davmor2> MooDoo: thanks for the appreciation dude put a smile on my face, especially when I thought of the appropriate response :D
[10:46] <MooDoo> davmor2: and i was being nice to you :p
[10:47] <davmor2> MooDoo: Hey I was nice back but you can't have that much nice without vomiting so to prevent that I threw in some sarcasm :)
[10:47] <davmor2> MooDoo: bit of a git about Lomu right?
[10:48] <MooDoo> davmor2: yes, i'm a bit gutted, he was my fave
[10:51] <TwistedLucidity> He could cover 100m in some ridiculous time if memory serves.
[10:52] <MooDoo> about 10seconds in his prime iirc
[10:52] <TwistedLucidity> Was that over grass or over the opposition?
[10:53] <MooDoo> lol
[10:53] <czajkowski> zmoylan-pi: I'm in Dublin so joping it behaves before Saturday
[10:53] <czajkowski> worst comes to it I can work from home :)
[10:53] <MooDoo> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OsXTa7UCGlk
[10:54] <zmoylan-pi> at least you can console yourself with supermacs... :-)
[11:09] <bigcalm> Good morning peeps :)
[11:10] <bigcalm> Confusing Alex is most amusing
[11:13] <popey> ya!
[11:14] <bigcalm> I haven't listened to RHLSTP for some time. I think I have a few to catch up on
[11:16] <popey> i watch the videos on youtube these days
[11:16] <popey> subscribed to his channel
[11:16] <popey> i was ill a few months back and chugged through loads of them while in bed
[11:17] <bigcalm> Yeah, I can't listen to talky audio while working. Too distracting. But playing games, driving or being ill in bed are good times to listen
[12:01] <davmor2> TwistedLucidity: you think there was a difference for him
[12:06] <TwistedLucidity> davmor2: One would have squeaked a bit more
[12:08] <davmor2> TwistedLucidity, MooDoo: I remember him kinda jogging the last few metres with an English guy iirc clung to his leg he got slowed to a jog :)
[12:19] <foobarry> i forgot the bbc red button was stil a thing
[12:22] <Laney> they'll get space for an extra channel too if they cancel this service
[12:55] <foobarry> i think its cost cutting thouhg
[13:01] <Laney> spectrum exists independent of cost
[13:03] <foobarry> i expect putting anything other than a +1 chan will be £ though
[13:07] <zmoylan-pi> maybe a +50years channel... :-)
[13:08] <foobarry> or a -24
[13:17] <awilkins> Have replaced faulty CPU fan. Already my urge to kill is subsiding.
[13:18] * zmoylan-pi starts humming loudly and offkey to get awilkins back in the mood... :-P
[14:16] <foobarry> hello web people
[14:16] <foobarry> can someone help me with a css tweak pls?
[14:16] <foobarry> http://docs.withknown.com/en/latest/install/ which css do i need to change the colour of "Installing and upgrading Known" ?
[14:20] <foobarry> ah got it
[14:20] <foobarry> ignore me
[14:20] <diddledan> well done :-)
[14:35] <mapps> hi;]
[14:43] <diddledan> hiya, mapps
[15:29] <foobarry> anyone know how readthedocs generates the pdfs/
[15:29] <foobarry> ? some internal md->pdf script, or a well known process?
[15:29] <foobarry> don't wanna reinvent wheels
[15:38] <davmor2> foobarry: have a look pdftk not sure if that is how it does them, but pdftk will do most things with pdf's
[15:39] <diplo> foobarry : rst2pdf I think ?
[15:40] <awilkins> Their source is up on Github
[15:40] <awilkins> https://github.com/rtfd/readthedocs.org/search?l=python&p=2&q=pdf&utf8=%E2%9C%93
[15:40] <awilkins> Not found the precise way it does PDF but probably findable with a bit of digging
[15:42] <diplo> 95% sure it's rst2pdf when I first tried it
[15:42] <diplo> I've not created any pdf's since I started using it though, just make html pages and rsync those pages to a remote site :)
[15:43] <zmoylan-pi> if html had a page feed command for printouts html would do 99% of my page formats
[16:39] <bigcalm> I've ditched VirginMedia's TV (kept phone and 'net) to save money. House already has a satellite dish, so looking at freesat for TV. Anybody here use freesat and/or have recommendations on set-top boxes that record?
[18:05] <davmor2> bigcalm: the humax HB-1000S has some good reviews
[18:06] <davmor2> bigcalm: so does the Manhattan Plaza hd-s2 but I don't think that records
[18:07] <davmor2> bigcalm: but the humax has good reviews all over including argos, currys amazon etc
[18:11] <marshmn> hi all; how can I make it so that when I double-click on a text file, it will open in Atom by default instead of gedit?
[18:11] <zmoylan-pi> right click on the file and change the default file handler?
[18:12] <marshmn> I can select Atom from the "open with" context menu, but how do I make it the default?
[18:13] <marshmn> zmoylan-pi: thanks - that seems to work for one extension, but there are many file extensions which are "text files"
[18:13] <marshmn> so is there a way to do it for all of them?
[18:28] <bigcalm> davmor2: thanks
[20:15] <foobarry> diplo: awilkins are you using mkdocs? or sphinx?
[23:06] <daftykins> http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B015Q3BD74
[23:06] <daftykins> this looks like a very neat deal for anyone after a super cheap laptop to gift someone, soon
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2015-11-18-#ubuntu-de
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[08:19] <nils17> hallo. gibt es eine möglichkeit in nautilus 3.14 die STATUSLEISTE wiederzubekommen? die wurde ja anscheinend weg-rationalisiert
[08:34] <Approach> Warum ist mysql 5.5 (veraltete version) in repo bei ubuntu eigentlich?
[08:41] <sash_> Approach: "Veraltet" ist das falsche Wort: Siehe https://www.mysql.com/support/supportedplatforms/database.html, um zu sehen, welche Versionen für welche Distributionen noch offiziell supportet werden.
[08:43] <sash_> Approach: Dazu kommt, dass Ubuntu kein Rolling Release ist. Da wird also zu Beginn des Releases eine aktuell stabile Paketversion in die Distribution integriert. Diese wird dann innerhalb des Lebenszyklus der Distribution "nur" mit Sicherheitsupdates versorgt, nicht mit Feature-Updates oder Versionssprüngen. Das ist eine Designentscheidung, die Ubuntu von Debian quasi übernommen hat.
[08:53] <stevieh> wenn du was frischeres brauchst: ppa oder selbst reinlöten
[08:53] <Approach> sash_: okay dann muss ich wohl hand anlegen, oder debian 8 switchen :-/
[08:53] <stevieh> ist debian da anders?
[08:54] <sash_> Nö, nur 8 ist frischer als Ubuntu 14.04
[08:54] <stevieh> dann kann man auch ein 15.10 oder so nehmen... das ist nämlich sonst grad zufall
[08:55] <sash_> Ist halt die Frage, was das da sein soll, was man da macht.
[08:59] <Approach> sash_: Da ich es sowieso mit ansible provisioniere ist mir es fast egal welche distro :)
[09:01] <sash_> Najoa, weiß ja nicht :P
[10:26] <labsy> hi all
[10:26] <labsy> gibt es aktuell irgendwelche ssh vulnerabilities oder dergleichen?
[10:26] <labsy> mein server wurde gehackt und der fingerprint des attackers pubkey für user root ist anders, als mein pubkey in authorized_keys
[10:41] <hal7> DVD netinst.iso - Die fehlenden Firmware-Dateien sind:rtlwifi/rtl18188efw.bin - Firmware von Wecheldatenträger laden?, muss dazu sagen, daß mein Netzwerkstecker im Notebook nicht funktioniert und ich deswegen einen usb-to-lan adapter habe. Ich wollte vorher per pxe installieren, aber das ging nicht, weil ja mein netzwerkstecker, daß netwerkkabel nicht erkennt. was jetzt zu tun?
[10:41] <frostschutz> labsy, wenn es so eine vulnerability aktuell gäbe dann wäre heise, golem & co voll davon... fürchte den tag an dem ssh alle reinlässt
[10:43] <hal7> jetzt kommt rtl_nic/rtl8106e-1.fw fehlt
[10:43] <frostschutz> hal7, wieso überhaupt netinst?
[10:45] <hal7> die kleinste netzinstallation, daß per internet nachgeladen wird
[10:45] <frostschutz> ?
[10:45] <hal7> primäre netzwrk sschittstell eth0 und eth1 zeigt er mir jetzt
[10:45] <hal7> was nehmen ?
[10:46] <hal7> wird usb adapter bei der installation erkannt?
[10:46] <hal7> wäre dann eth1 oder
[10:46] <labsy> kann es das denn geben, dass ein fingerprint bei gleichem pubkey unterschiedlich aussehen kann?
[10:47] <labsy> also wenn ein angreifer einen bekannten priv key hätte, aber nicht wollte, dass er anhand des fingerprints auffliegt, könnte er technisch den fingerprint abändern?
[10:47] <labsy> bei gleich bleibenden pubkey als gegebenstück?
[10:47] <sash_> labsy: ja.
[10:47] <sash_> labsy: Sekunde, muss ich kurz googlen
[10:47] <labsy> ja bitte
[10:48] <frostschutz> was machst du denn mit deinen private keys daß andere die bekommen? :-O
[10:48] <labsy> frostschutz: ich gehe nicht davon aus, weil ich den so gut wie möglich schütze
[10:48] <labsy> aber ich will spekulieren.
[10:50] <frostschutz> vielleicht war auch einfach was anderes in deinen authorized keys, wenn der angreifer erstmal drin ist kann er das ja wieder verschleiern?
[10:50] <labsy> ne der server ist nicht so alt
[10:51] <labsy> ich weiß genau, dass nur zwei pubkeys drin waren.
[10:51] <labsy> von mir.
[10:51] <labsy> und beide fingerprints passen nicht zu den in der auth.log des angreifers
[10:51] <frostschutz> login per passwort erlaubt?
[10:51] <labsy> nein
[10:51] <sash_> labsy: Finde es gerade nicht. Aber SSH unterstützt verschiedene Signatur-Algorithmen. Wenn Client a Signatur X verlangt und Client b Signatur Y, dann meldet der Server 2 verschiedene Signaturen.
[10:51] <labsy> frostschutz: auch wenn, es war ein login per pubkey.
[10:51] <labsy> laut auth.log
[10:52] <labsy> wenn ich der auth.log denn überhaupt noch trauen darf. er könnte die zeile ja auch abgeändert haben
[10:52] <sash_> Du kannst sowohl in der sshd-config serverseitig einschränken als auch lokal in deiner ssh-config einen bestimmten Algorithmus einstellen.
[10:57] <hal7> pubkey statt passwort
[13:12] <christoph__> hi, ich habe zwei kleinere probleme mit meiner ubuntu installation
[13:12] <christoph__> #1 bei mir flackert der untere bereich des bildschirm hintergrund ich weiß leider nicht woran dies liegne könnte
[13:14] <christoph__> #2 der cursor verschwindet sobald man oben auf der menüleiste hovert
[13:14] <christoph__> wäre für anregungen dankbar
[13:14] <dadrc> Ubuntuversion, Grafikkarte, Treiber?
[13:18] <christoph__> neuste 14.04 (gestern installiert) GeForce GT 750M Nvidia binary treiber 346.96
[13:21] <dadrc> hmm, das sollte ja eigentlich alles passen
[13:21] <dadrc> irgendwelche komischen änderungen?
[13:21] <christoph__> :D ja das hab ich mir auch gedacht
[13:21] <nagetier> mal probehalber einen neuen Nutzer anlegen
[13:22] <christoph__> done ist da genauso
[13:22] <nagetier> ok
[13:23] <dadrc> christoph__: sicher, dass das monitorkabel heile ist?
[13:24] <nagetier> christoph__, mal eine Live-Version versucht?
[13:24] <ghostcube> sicher dass der nvidia treiber wuppt?
[13:24] <christoph__> notebook -> kein monitorkabel
[13:24] <christoph__> live version hat das auch
[13:24] <christoph__> aufjedenfall ist laut nvidia gui alles okay
[13:25] <ghostcube> ne 15.10 er live cd auch?
[13:27] <christoph__> ne das hab ich noch nicht probiert
[13:27] <christoph__> ich muss vllt dazusagen das ich ein 4k display habe
[13:28] <christoph__> auflösung runtergestellt, habe irgendwie die vermutung das irgendwas mit den farben und der herzanzahl nicht stimmt
[13:30] <christoph__> gerade bei einem benchmark festgestellt: (' OpenGL 2 not supported!\n',)
[13:33] <ghostcube> der treiber kann das nit
[13:33] <nagetier> christoph__, teste die 15.10 doch mal an
[13:33] <ghostcube> das isa aber bekannt
[13:33] <ghostcube> https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=MTYzMTM
[13:33] <ghostcube> lies das mal
[19:05] <Daniel_> moin moin
[19:29] <jokrebel> Nabend
[19:41] <rudha> hallo
[19:46] <p01nt3r> nabend, gilt die beschriebene methode auf: https://forum.ubuntuusers.de/topic/es-geht-also-doch-programme-ausfuehren-von-usb/ noch? es geht darum, einen stick mit binaries für ein fremdes linux dahingehend portabel zu machen, dass man nichts mehr an den ordner-rechten des mountpoint oder sonstigem ändern muss. gibt es evtl. noch eine andere oder eleganter methode, als die binaries in "*.exe|*.com|*.bat" umzubennen?
[21:34] <maredeb> Moin, gerade zickt libreoffice gewaltig, mit 'mouse lock' bei Klick Menü, stalling und seltsamer Interaktion mit den Desktops (Wechsel). Hat das schon mal jemand so gesehen und einen Tipp, was man gucken/machen kann? gnome legacy hier, nicht unity.
[21:36] <maredeb> Selbst ein killall -9 soffice.bin hängt etwas
[21:39] <mrkramps> maredeb, welche LO version?
[21:58] <maredeb> mrkramps: LibreOffice 4.2.8.2 420m0(Build:2)
[22:00] <mrkramps> maredeb, das konfugurationsverzeichnis mal umbenannt?
[22:00] <mrkramps> also quasi die einstellungen einmal zurückgesetzt
[22:06] <maredeb> mrkramps: noch nicht, das ist jetzt ~/.config/libreoffice.broken und schon tuts wieder, jetzt erinnere ich mich auch an Hänger und Absturz mehrerer Dokumente vorhin, was wohl die config zerlegt hat. Danke dir
[22:07] <mrkramps> maredeb, passiert leider hin und wieder
[22:13] <maredeb> Hab gerade mal mit diff geschaut, und da steht nun in der Java-Version eine andere. Ich hatte insgesamt nicht viel angepasst, daher nicht so wild.
[22:40] <howlymowly> noch jemand wach ;)? --> kurze Frage zu EFI und DUalboot ich habe ohne Probleme ubuntu zusammen mit windows installiert.. allerdings wir irgendwie nicht automatisch in grub gebootet... wie stelle ich das ein? das Grub funktioniert habe ich mithilfe dieses Befehls ausprobiert: "sudo efibootmgr -n 0004 "
[22:41] <howlymowly> beim Neustart booted mein Sytem dann automatisch in ubuntu
[22:41] <howlymowly> beim nächsten Neustart ist allerdings alles wieder "wie früher" und er booted automatisch direkt in windows
[22:52] <smeexs> howlymowly du musst uefi/scureboot abschalten bevor du windows/ubuntu installierst , sonst gibts immer wieder probleme (vor allem bei updates)
[22:52] <smeexs> wenn du uefi/secureboot jetzt abschaltest startet windows nicht mehr
[22:52] <howlymowly> smeexs: habe gerhört, daß uefi-secureboot mit den neuen ubuntu Versionen funktioniert? --> smeexs
[22:52] <howlymowly> das letzte.. jupp das hab ich bemerkt ;)
[22:52] <howlymowly> dann startet windows nicht mehr ...
[22:53] <howlymowly> deswegen hab ich es angelassen ....
[22:53] <smeexs> was meinst du mit neu ? , bei 10.04 hatte ich 2 mal probleme mit grub nach nem update
[22:54] <howlymowly> ich benutz 15.10 ich les berall, das ab 14.10 man eigentlich keine Problem emehr mit uefi haben sollte ...
[22:54] <howlymowly> *überall
[22:54] <smeexs> und das neueres als 14.04 solltest du eh nicht nehmen , diese versionen sind eigentlich nur zum testen und für entwickler gedacht
[22:54] <k1l_> smeexs: wat? quatsch
[22:54] <smeexs> kann ich nicht ssagen
[22:54] <smeexs> ach echt
[22:55] <howlymowly> smeexs: aber keine Sorge, ich benutz ubuntu schon eine Weile ... sogar so lange, daß ich keine Ahnung mehr von windows habe und jetzt eine dualboot Geschichte für einen Freund einrichte muss ;)
[22:55] <howlymowly> und das ist schwieriger, als ich mir vorgestellt habe
[22:55] <k1l_> ubuntu kann mit efi. aber da gibts wohl wieder hardware hersteller die komische sachen machen. deswegen hab ich noch alles im legacy modus und mich nicht weiter mit efi beschäftigt
[22:55] <smeexs> ""Mark Shuttleworth selbst empfiehlt {de} nicht ambitionierten Anwendern ausdrücklich, die Long Term Support-Versionen zu nutzen:
[22:55] <smeexs> "Diese Non-LTS-Versionen seien ohnehin nur für Leute gedacht, die an Ubuntu in irgendeiner Form mitarbeiten, alle anderen sollten nur LTS-Versionen einsetzen.""
[22:56] <k1l_> ohje.
[22:56] <smeexs> von ubuntuusers
[22:57] <smeexs> aber egal , mag über so etwas nicht diskutieren
[22:58] <smeexs> mir hats zweimal nach einem update grub zerschossen , beim ersten mal konnte ich das mit der anleitung fixen , beim zweiten mal ging das nicht , da hab ich dann uefi/secureboot ausgeschalten und windows ubuntu neu installiert
[22:58] <k1l_> ein schlechtes zitat noch so gekürzt, dass es immer schlechter wird. wunderbar
[22:59] <smeexs> wenn das system eh noch ganz neu ist würd ich sicherheitshalber in den sauren apfel beissen und das schnell nochmal installieren
[23:00] <smeexs> bringt dir ja eh nix außer ärger
[23:02] <smeexs> howlywowly warum ist das schwierig , ich mach das alle 1-2 wochen
[23:02] <smeexs> windows installieren , ubuntu installieren fertig ..uefi/secure vorher abschalten
[23:03] <smeexs> wenn der für den du das machst neu ist bei ubuntu rate ich dir wirklich dringen zu einer lts version , da hat er es in vielen fällen leichter (one-klick lösungen bzw dokumentation in ubuntuusers , unterstützung bei games/steam usw)
[23:13] <howlymowly> smeexs: das Problem ist, daß er von mir verlangt, sein windows mit allen Einstellungen usw.. nicht anzutasten
[23:13] <howlymowly> geht leider nicht so einfach, wenn ich windows neu installieren müsste ;)
[23:14] <mrkramps> howlymowly, kommt keine virtuelle maschine in frage?
[23:14] <smeexs> ok das ist natürlich umständlich
[23:16] <smeexs> dann musst bei einem upgrad nach ein paar monaten mit dem uefi aber aufpassen
[23:17] <smeexs> noch so ein grund der für lts spricht
[23:29] <howlymowly> smeexs: ich spekuliere auf das 16.04 lts ;)
[23:29] <howlymowly> *spekuliere
[23:29] <howlymowly> mrkramps: nei
[23:29] <howlymowly> *nein
[23:29] <howlymowly> zu langsam
[23:31] <smeexs> das dauert noch und dann dauerts nochmal bis "alles" auf 16.04 aktualisiert wird (spiel support , wikis , anelitungen)
[23:31] <smeexs> gut games werden weg fallen wenn er windows auch hat
[23:40] <nagetier> holgersson, anscheinend kann man windows auch nachträglich efi beibringen.. somit könntest seine installation weiterverwenden
[23:40] <nagetier> ups
[23:40] <nagetier> howlymowly, ^
[23:43] <nagetier> auch könnte man IMO das jetzige als vorlage verwenden..
[23:48] <nagetier> *gpt/uefi
[23:48] <exoplanet> Man kann doch mehrere FQHN setzen oder?
[23:49] <nagetier> jo
[23:49] <exoplanet> gut und danke nagetier
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ubuntu-chat
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2024-05-13T22:11:18.574162
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2015-11-18-#ubuntu-us-tx
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[14:36] <thebwt> Morning folks!
[14:36] <thebwt> going well
[15:07] <xfailedreality_x> Good morning
[15:08] <slick666_work> https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/736x/ab/63/5c/ab635cc003d86146f0437eae401e5a31.jpg
[15:24] <failedreality> haha that is awesome
[15:26] <slick666_work> http://www.quickmeme.com/img/e3/e3ec53e456927d5d2adaee58fdf88d4d99fb50019a65f61cfc02616b74001c1e.jpg
[16:31] <thebwt> :)
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ubuntu-chat
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2024-05-13T22:11:18.576792
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2015-11-18-#juju-gui
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[20:06] <jcastro> hey guys, I noticed jujucharms.com/jenkins the changelog is not updated
[21:24] <urulama> jcastro: yeah, bzr info issues between old/new ... soon to be obsolete and replaced
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ubuntu-chat
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2024-05-13T22:11:18.577584
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2015-11-18-#ubuntu-bugs
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[22:32] <bpye> Would a library in Ubuntu 14.04 that will not work with Clang 3.5 without a newer commit being added be considered a bug?
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ubuntu-chat
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2024-05-13T22:11:18.578578
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2015-11-18-#cloud-init
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[13:43] <smoser> agy, no, you cant. :-(
[13:43] <smoser> agy, but patches are definitely welcome for that.
[18:53] <BarnacleBob> hi there. i'm trying to use cloud-init to partition and mount a disk using the latest ubuntu 14.04 official images on aws and i'm getting a stack trace. https://gist.github.com/BarnacleBob/ef00cbed7d49bd97a058
[18:53] <BarnacleBob> anyone see what i might be doing wrong
[18:57] <Odd_Bloke> BarnacleBob: I think you're hitting https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/cloud-init/+bug/1311463
[19:00] <BarnacleBob> ah excelent
[19:03] <BarnacleBob> does cloud-init rerun everytime the machine boots up or is there some protection against that?
[19:05] <Odd_Bloke> BarnacleBob: So it does run, but modules specify if they are per-instance or per-boot.
[19:05] <Odd_Bloke> BarnacleBob: So generally it comes up and finds there isn't anything to do.
[19:05] <BarnacleBob> ok great. i'm guessing disk partitioning and filesystem are once per instance but i'll test it
[19:05] <Odd_Bloke> I believe they are.
[19:07] <Diplomat> hey guys, I have a little issue.. my code fails to create users and set passwords: http://paste.ubuntu.com/13333626/
[19:08] <Diplomat> and here's my script: http://paste.ubuntu.com/13333632/
[19:09] <Odd_Bloke> Diplomat: Is that the output in /var/log/cloud-init.log, or is there more info there?
[19:09] <Diplomat> well, I can't access my vm unfortunately
[19:09] <Diplomat> oh
[19:09] <Diplomat> nvm
[19:09] <Diplomat> no it's from the console
[19:10] <Diplomat> console log from openstack
[19:11] <Odd_Bloke> OK, getting cloud-init.log would probably make it much easier to debug.
[19:11] <Odd_Bloke> Diplomat: Can you mount that disk on another VM and access it that way?
[19:11] <Diplomat> Not really
[19:12] <Diplomat> I'm seeing this too
[19:12] <Diplomat> [WARNING]: Running ssh-authkey-fingerprints (<module 'cloudinit.config.cc_ssh_authkey_fingerprints' from '/usr/lib/python2.6/site-packages/cloudinit/config/cc_ssh_authkey_fingerprints.pyc'>) failed
[19:12] <Diplomat> I'm using CentOS 6.7 cloud image
[19:12] <Diplomat> from their website
[19:13] <Odd_Bloke> Diplomat: OK, if you aren't going to get cloud-init.log, then your best bet is probably to strip down to an empty configuration and add a line at a time.
[19:13] <Odd_Bloke> Diplomat: I'm curious to know why you can't mount the disk though. :)
[19:14] <Diplomat> Because I'm not using a volume
[19:14] <Diplomat> If i'd boot using a volume then i could do that
[19:15] <Odd_Bloke> Diplomat: What are you booting from?
[19:15] <Diplomat> From that disc it creates into a compute node
[19:16] <Odd_Bloke> Diplomat: "that disc it creates" <-- what is creating the disk?
[19:16] <Diplomat> Umm.. nova?
[19:16] <Diplomat> I'm not sure what you mean
[19:16] <Odd_Bloke> So my understanding is that nova creates a volume from the image; you should be able to mount that volume on another instance, no?
[19:17] <Odd_Bloke> (I'm not super au-fait with OpenStack though, so I could be completely wrong :p)
[19:17] <Diplomat> Well, you can't do that.. if you would use a volume (Cinder) then you can remove it and add to another VM, mount it and then access those files
[19:18] <Diplomat> Also.. I just commented out "customer" account creation and used a key pair and now it works
[19:18] <Diplomat> Changing password for user root.
[19:18] <Diplomat> passwd: all authentication tokens updated successfully.
[19:18] <Diplomat> Locking password for user root.
[19:18] <Diplomat> passwd: Success
[19:18] <Odd_Bloke> Cool. :)
[19:19] <Diplomat> Yes, but now I have to figure out why it doesn't want to create an account
[19:19] <Odd_Bloke> Diplomat: Just add in each line of config there one at a time, and you'll discover which one is the problem.
[19:21] <Diplomat> I think I already found it.. its that account creation thingy
[19:21] <smatzek> so you want to log in to an account that is non-root using password after creation?
[19:22] <Odd_Bloke> Diplomat: Right, I'm saying see if adding "- name: customer" works and iterate just through that section.
[19:22] <Diplomat> oh
[19:22] <Odd_Bloke> Diplomat: Having said that, I suspect lock-passwd should be lock_passwd.
[19:22] <Diplomat> smatzek: yes
[19:22] <Odd_Bloke> (Not 100% sure)
[19:22] <smatzek> I was going exactly where Odd_Bloke went. lock_passwd is wrong in the public cloud-init docs.
[19:22] <smatzek> that's burned hours for me in the past.
[19:23] <Odd_Bloke> Oh, really?
[19:23] <Odd_Bloke> </3
[19:23] <Diplomat> I removed it.. but it still failed :/
[19:23] <smatzek> http://cloudinit.readthedocs.org/en/latest/topics/examples.html#yaml-examples has lock-passwd which is wrong.
[19:24] <Diplomat> yea i took it from there lol
[19:24] <smatzek> if you want to be able to log in with password it must be lock_passwd: False
[19:25] <smatzek> lock-passwd: False doesn't get picked up because of the - _ difference and the default for lock_passwd is True.
[19:25] <Diplomat> groups: sudo
[19:25] <Diplomat> maybe that's a problem too ?
[19:26] <Odd_Bloke> Diplomat: Try a line at a time. :)
[19:30] <smatzek> also, it's not covered much in the docs but you could try plain_text_passwd: passw0rd instead of the hashed one to see if its a problem with a SHA / salt difference.
[19:31] <Diplomat> Good idea
[19:38] <Diplomat> yea
[19:38] <Diplomat> groups: sudo was wrong
[19:39] <Diplomat> it failed then
[19:40] <Diplomat> but I still can't login with customer:password
[19:40] <Diplomat> there are no error messages :/
[19:41] <Diplomat> also it only says Changing password for user root.
[19:41] <Diplomat> nothing about customer..
[19:41] <Diplomat> oh, because i forgot to add that line :>
[19:44] <Diplomat> wooo
[19:44] <Diplomat> works :D
[19:45] <Diplomat> Now I have to figure out why it doesn't resize the disc
[19:48] <Diplomat> growpart:
[19:48] <Diplomat> mode: auto
[19:48] <Diplomat> devices: ["/"]
[19:48] <Diplomat> resize_rootfs: True
[19:48] <Diplomat> resize_rootfs_tmp: /dev
[19:48] <Diplomat> sorry for spam
[19:48] <Diplomat> but shouldn't this part do that?
[19:49] <Diplomat> or i have to do under runcmd growpart /dev/vda 1
[19:49] <Diplomat> or whatever it was
[19:51] <Diplomat> Actually.. I can see that something is running this: fsck.ext4 -a /dev/vda1
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ubuntu-chat
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2024-05-13T22:11:18.583142
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2015-11-18-#ubuntu-nz
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[18:16] <ibeardslee> morning
[19:09] <olly_> morning
[21:59] <gzcwnk> :)
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ubuntu-chat
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2024-05-13T22:11:18.584091
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2015-11-18-#ubuntu-bd
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[14:44] <Rezwan> Ekushey, skype তো ব্লক করে নাই
[14:44] <Rezwan> terrorist রা যদি স্কাইপে যোগাযোগ করে?
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ubuntu-chat
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2024-05-13T22:11:18.588178
| 2015-11-18T00:00:00 |
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2015-11-18-#ubuntu-gnome
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[09:56] <mgedmin> welp https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=744278
[09:56] <mgedmin> according to that bug (which was fixed in g-s-d 3.16.2), turning backlight down to 0 shouldn't turn off my lcd
[09:56] <mgedmin> it does
[09:56] <mgedmin> I'm on g-s-d 3.18.2
[09:57] <darkxst> mgedmin, its clamps to 1%, some screens require a bit more to stay visible apparently
[09:58] <mgedmin> apparently :/
[09:59] <darkxst> so long as it comes back on when you increase the brightness. its not a huge issue ?
[09:59] * mgedmin has a thinkpad x220 (4291-WJF) with intel video ([8086:0126] (rev 09))
[10:00] <mgedmin> no, it's not a huge issue for me
[13:01] <LinDol> hi all
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ubuntu-chat
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2024-05-13T22:11:18.589773
| 2015-11-18T00:00:00 |
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2015-11-18-#ubuntu-x
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[02:06] <mamarley> Argh, 358.13 is out but I can't package it for the PPA because only the non-stripped x64 build is available, no 32 or ARM.
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ubuntu-chat
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2024-05-13T22:11:18.590513
| 2015-11-18T00:00:00 |
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2015-11-18-#ubuntu-server
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[00:04] <sarnold> hey teward :)
[00:05] <teward> sarnold: you pinged earlier
[00:05] <teward> :)
[00:05] <sarnold> teward: yeah; a user was having trouble getting nginx to start late enough, ipv6 addresses added via /etc/network/interfaces weren't up yet, so he had to hack up a restart..
[00:05] <teward> ah
[00:06] <teward> sarnold: there's a known 'race' condition there, where if networking isn't up it breaks
[00:06] <teward> not sure if there's a workaround
[00:06] <sarnold> teward: I was curious if you'd seen that, knew a good upstart workaround, or knew if the nginx guys had switched to whatever that magic socket option is that allows binding to addresses that aren't upyet..
[00:06] <teward> sarnold: i don't think there's a 'magic socket option' implemented :P
[00:07] <teward> I *think* there's a way with systemd, but...
[00:07] <teward> not 100% certain
[00:07] <teward> that'd be a question sent upstream though
[00:07] <teward> to Debian or nginx upstream
[00:08] <sarnold> teward: aha!
[00:08] <sarnold> teward: that poked the neuron that knew that magic socket option: IP_FREEBIND, last paragraph of http://www.freedesktop.org/wiki/Software/systemd/NetworkTarget/
[00:10] <teward> sarnold: the tricky part is we ahve to have some kind of network dependency - preferably network-online.target possibly, but not 100%. That'd be a systemctl level command, I believe. And if v4 but not v6 is up, you're still stuck in the "Not Configured" state
[00:10] <teward> unless systemd has separate v6 networking state commands
[00:12] <teward> what makes it a little trickier is trying to get that working *earlier* in the boot process
[00:12] <teward> sarnold: unless upstart has a way to specifically schedule process startup to after all networking is configured?
[00:13] <sarnold> teward: heh, good question. :/
[00:14] <teward> AIUI there wasn't a way for that in upstart. And AIUI currently, there's no way to differentiate v6 from v4 in 'network is up' state...
[00:14] <teward> but that's beyond my current knowledge set
[00:14] <teward> and just my basic understanding
[00:15] <sarnold> thanks teward :)
[09:08] <Capprentice> What do you use to scan open ports aprt from netstat -tunlp ?
[09:10] <Sling> nmap
[09:11] <Sling> or lsof -i locally
[11:37] <Sonu> Hi ... i am facing a Curl issue on my server.. Curl is enabled but not working ...http://awesomescreenshot.com/0445exek37
[11:47] <Sonu> Failed to connect to port 80: Connection timed out.. when using curl
[13:56] <caeve> hello everyone, I was referred to here from ubuntu channel for my question. would using gpt (GUID) partition table on external drives have any drawbacks with existing file systems or OSes? I never used it, and apparently it is preferrable to MBR, but I wish to avoid any unsafe, outright risky situations such as problems recognizing existing data or partitions..
[13:58] <TJ-> caeve: no issues :)
[14:00] <TJ-> caeve: The only area you might face problems is for older Windows versions not recognising GPT. I think 64-bit XP is OK, not sure where Vista/7 stand. Windows BIOS installs require MBR, but I *think* they can read GPT for data devices
[14:01] <caeve> TJ- I understand..thank you!
[14:04] <quantic> caeve: If compatibility is your concern, GPT has been supported since Windows XP for both boot and storage devices.
[14:05] <quantic> caeve: Actually, scratch that. Vista and above.
[14:08] <caeve> quantic, there has been mbr in OSes and other devices, so I wanted to be sure things like partition being overwritten because of having been unrecognized or considered free space or similar wouldnt happen
[14:09] <rbasak> GPT uses something that things that don't understand GPT will see as a single big MBR partition.
[14:09] <quantic> caeve: Windows XP (potentially) and prior (definitely) will pose that problem. Any Linux/Unix release that's at all recent, and Mac OS X can recognize and read GPT disks. That said, if the partition is formatted with an FS that some other OS doesn't recognize, it may treat it as unformatted and ask to format it itself.
[14:09] <TJ-> caeve: as long as you write either a protective or hybrid MBR GPT will be OK
[14:09] <rbasak> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GUID_Partition_Table#Legacy_MBR_.28LBA_0.29
[14:10] <rbasak> That page has compatibility information too
[14:10] <TJ-> caeve: the *gdisk tools can all do that
[14:12] <caeve> quantic, yes, as it happens every time when ext4 drives are inserted in windows
[14:13] <caeve> TJ- sorry, I couldnt understand the part 'as long as you write either a protective or hybrid MBR'
[14:14] <caeve> do my existing mbr systems need to have these qualities?
[14:14] <TJ-> caeve: the GPT tools can write an MBR. Either protective (it has a single partition that covers the entire disk) or hybrid (it has up to 3 partitions - more usually up to 2 - that map onto partitions in the GPT
[14:15] <TJ-> caeve: No. The purpose of protective/hybrid MBR when using GPT is to prevent MBR tooling that is not GPT-aware from blindly overwriting/allocating space on the disk that GPT has allocated
[14:18] <caeve> TJ- I am confused as I am not technical enough to understand these terms fully. maybe I should stick with mbr
[14:24] <chris_123> hello everybody
[14:42] <caeve> so is it safe to use gpt or not, with my systems being mbr?
[14:43] <patdk-wk> one should not use mbr, unless they are using it for a boot drive on an old bios
[14:43] <caeve> because the extended partition thing os mbr did enough harm
[14:43] <caeve> of mbr*
[14:44] <caeve> patdk-wk, my OS is on an mbr drive, but it is an external drive that I consider using gpt
[14:44] <caeve> on
[14:45] <patdk-wk> if the disk is <2tb, mbr is ok
[14:45] <patdk-wk> if it is >2tb, you should use gpt
[14:46] <caeve> patdk-wk, the question is, is it safe to use gpt with the disk <2tb when the OS on hdd is mbr?
[14:46] <patdk-wk> if you want >4 partitions, gpt could be easier too
[14:46] <patdk-wk> it makes no difference
[14:47] <caeve> patdk-wk, having >4 partitions is the reason why I see gpt as more convenient
[14:47] <patdk-wk> that is like asking, is it safe for me to install water in my house? cause the house down the road has a well
[14:47] <Capprentice> caeve: For HDDs over 2TB in size, its mandatory to use GPT.
[14:47] <caeve> Capprentice, no, this is not the case for me
[14:48] <Capprentice> I have used mixed mode.
[14:48] <caeve> so all I want to know is that my OS, which runs on a mbr drive, would not mess any of the partitions or data on the GPT-formatted external drive
[14:49] <patdk-wk> there is no way we can know that
[14:49] <patdk-wk> that will depend on the os
[14:49] <caeve> uncertainty prevails
[14:49] <patdk-wk> but any sane os won't do that, anymore than if you asked it to format your disk
[14:49] <patdk-wk> or if you get a virus
[14:49] <caeve> patdk-wk, it is the latest ubuntu LTS, so I hope it would be reliable?
[14:50] <patdk-wk> yes, it won't touch it, unless told to
[14:50] <patdk-wk> like, you using fdisk/gdisk/sdisk/parted/...
[14:51] <caeve> patdk-wk, ok, I'd like to count on that
[14:53] <caeve> thank you everyone, for your insights and help!
[16:06] <Pwnna> does anyone here know how to check the disks assigned to md0?
[16:13] <lordievader> mdadm --detail --scan /dev/md0 (or something along those lines)
[16:13] <lordievader> Check the man page ;)
[16:18] <Pwnna> yeah just got that too. it's very far down the man page
[16:18] <Pwnna> thanks!
[17:34] <Delta706> Does this channel cover general ubuntu hosting?
[18:08] <hallyn> smb: well never mind, the patch in trusty-proposed is kvm-only, so my qrt runs wouldn't test anything
[18:08] <hallyn> or do they? hm
[18:09] <hallyn> nope. might be worth augmenting qrt for that
[18:11] <smb> hallyn, must admit I am not sure right now. might be somewhere in the area of keeping qemu's world in sync with the kvm apic
[18:11] <hallyn> i looked at the patch, seems ok
[18:12] <hallyn> anyway i'll do a testrun anyway, but i don't see how it could test regressions in this case :)
[18:12] <hallyn> but then if i could foresee it, i wouldn't need tests
[18:12] <smb> very true indeed :)
[19:00] <DefunctProcess> guys, my deluged daemon simply wont run, starting it with $sudo service deluged start seems to work, but status indicates its not running, and web gui shows it offline
[19:01] <DefunctProcess> is there a way to get debug log or somethign from the daemon?
[19:02] <sarnold> DefunctProcess: check /var/log/upstart/ and /var/log/syslog
[19:04] <DefunctProcess> nope
[19:05] <DefunctProcess> ok
[19:06] <DefunctProcess> i think i figured out how to get logs
[19:06] <DefunctProcess> now it seems upnp is broken all of a suggen
[19:10] <hallyn> smb: huh, actually got a qrt failure. on a nic test
[19:10] <hallyn> now i need to revert and see if i can reproduce
[19:10] <hallyn> or if it was a fluke
[19:55] <hallyn> smb: d'oh, yeah, it's an actual regression. holy schnickities
[21:29] <preseeder_> I am trying to preseed a mini iso with 15.10 downloaded from here -> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/MinimalCD . This is my preseed file -> http://hastebin.com/jukiyelanu.hs and these are the forms of txt.cfg i have tried -> http://hastebin.com/haquzuzuru.mel So far the mini iso will not use the preseed file for some reason.Does anyone have an idea why? is it not supported with mini iso's?
[22:23] <teward> sarnold: ping
[22:23] <sarnold> afternoon teward :)
[22:23] <teward> sarnold: good evening! with regards to the thing a few days ago, upstart's 'network up' check only requires one (either v4 or v6) to be up, I think, which means there's still a race condition
[22:23] <teward> and I was poking at systemd and came to a similar conclusion
[22:24] <sarnold> thanks :)
[22:24] <teward> so unless Upstart is being revamped to have a v4 and v6 specific option, (same with systemd) that's... blah
[22:24] <teward> couldn't find anything on IP_FREEBIND upstream though
[22:24] <teward> so maybe you want to propose that to nginx on trac
[22:24] * teward has his hands full with a server migration
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[01:46] <dobey> CommandError: Multiple image matches found for 'ubuntu/ubuntu-vivid-15.04-ppc64el-server-20151117-disk1.img', use an ID to be more specific.
[01:46] <dobey> trainguards: ^^ this seems to be blocking some autopkgtests on ppc64el
[01:47] <robru> Wat
[01:47] <robru> dobey: where are you seeing that?
[01:48] <dobey> http://autopkgtest.ubuntu.com/running.html
[01:48] <dobey> scroll to the bottom, and ubuntuone-credentials shows that
[01:49] <dobey> i saw the "request autopkgtests" button on citrain and thought i'd try it. now my request's status is stuck at "Autopkgtest: in progress." because ppc64el test runner is stuck in an infinite loop trying to spawn an image or something
[01:49] <robru> dobey: that's nothing to do with the train. I guess you should poke pitti
[01:50] <robru> dobey: also don't click that it's experimental and not working very well
[01:50] <dobey> robru: is there any way to unblock the train status? or should i just ignore that and move along with requesting QA?
[01:50] <robru> dobey: well i could clear it manually. The only way for you is to rebuild the silo. Want me to clear it?
[01:51] <dobey> robru: yes please. thanks
[01:51] <robru> dobey: OK. Which silo was that?
[01:51] <dobey> https://requests.ci-train.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/668
[01:52] <kgunn> robru: hey, i got a little bit of a strange one...in silo 20, the qtmir for vivid didn't rebuild even tho i chose FORCE_REBUILD
[01:53] <kgunn> i had swapped out original mp's...and retargeted to dual landing...so maybe it's just a bug
[01:53] <kgunn> not sure if you wanna debug? or if you would, just delete the qtmir for vivid out of that ppa
[01:53] <kgunn> and i'll rebuild
[01:53] <robru> dobey: ok that should clear up in a sec
[01:54] <robru> kgunn: looking
[01:54] <kgunn> np
[01:54] <kgunn> thanks
[01:54] <dobey> robru: thanks
[01:55] <robru> dobey: you're welcome
[01:56] <robru> kgunn: https://ci-train.ubuntu.com/job/ubuntu-landing-020-1-build/284/consoleFull this log looks like it's building qtmir and qtmir-gles. what went wrong?
[01:58] <robru> kgunn: huh that's weird the log shows "2015-11-17 22:47:22,811 INFO Creating secondary build in /var/lib/jenkins/silos/ubuntu/landing-020/qtmir_+vivid." but I see it is missing from the PPA
[02:03] <robru> kgunn: http://paste.ubuntu.com/13322918/ that log shows the vivid version being uploaded, since it didn't make it into the PPA we need somebody like cjwatson to dig in and see why lp rejected the upload.
[02:04] <robru> kgunn: although there sure are a lot of strange errors about missing dependencies in that log, not sure how it got past that to do the package upload...
[02:14] <kgunn> robru: so am i stuck ?
[02:14] <kgunn> i kinda need to rebuild that qtmir before euro morning
[02:15] <robru> kgunn: yeah sorry, I don't have access to the info to figure out what went wrong in order to fix it
[02:15] <robru> kgunn: if it's urgent you could also try pinging infinity or wgrant, they might be more likely to be around at this time than colin
[02:15] <kgunn> robru: hmm...could i just create a new silo request as a way to start over
[02:16] <robru> kgunn: I don't know if that would fix it, it's possible the reason it's being rejected is unrelated to the silo.
[02:16] <kgunn> kk
[02:16] <robru> kgunn: I mean you could certainly try that, but I'd try to reach those other people I mentioned first, they'll be able to say definitively why the package didn't make it to the ppa
[02:22] <robru> kgunn: https://launchpad.net/~ci-train-ppa-service/+archive/ubuntu/landing-020/+packages?field.name_filter=qtmir&field.status_filter=&field.series_filter=vivid looks like the ppa already has 0.4.7 in it and you're trying to upload 0.4.6.
[02:22] <robru> which is weird because I thought the train had a check against that...
[02:23] <robru> kgunn: so you need to either go back to 0.4.7 or get a different silo, yeah
[02:25] <robru> off to the gym, brb
[02:25] <robru> (brb in 2 hours)
[07:56] <FourDollars> Hi, how can I reuqest a landing for https://code.launchpad.net/~fourdollars/unity-settings-daemon/fix-lowest-brightness/+merge/277326 ?
[08:02] <FourDollars> Where is trainguards?
[08:03] <robru> FourDollars: Hi
[08:03] <robru> FourDollars: did you ever use the train before?
[08:03] <FourDollars> robru: Can you give me the required permissions for operating the CI Train?
[08:03] <FourDollars> robru: No
[08:04] <robru> FourDollars: OK, one sec. What's your launchpad name?
[08:04] <FourDollars> robru: fourdollars
[08:04] <robru> OK
[08:05] <FourDollars> robru: Then?
[08:06] <robru> FourDollars: instructions are here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/citrain/LandingProcess but may be stale. Feel free to ping trainguards if you need help. I'm EOD but others should be around soon
[08:07] <FourDollars> robru: Have you given me the required permissions for operating the CI Train?
[08:07] <robru> FourDollars: yes
[08:07] <FourDollars> robru: thx
[08:07] <robru> FourDollars: if it isn't working, log out and log back in. You're welcome
[08:11] <Mirv> FourDollars: I'm here
[08:11] <FourDollars> Mirv: Thx
[08:15] <FourDollars> Mirv: I have created https://requests.ci-train.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/672. What should I do next?
[08:15] <FourDollars> Mirv: Never mind. I got it.
[08:18] <FourDollars> Mirv: Could you help to check https://requests.ci-train.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/672?
[08:18] <Mirv> FourDollars: checking
[08:18] <FourDollars> Mirv: thx
[08:20] <Mirv> FourDollars: looking correct for a xenial landing otherwise, but set the QA setting to "No QA Needed" first. once you've assigned a silo, built and tested it, you can set it to "Publish without QA" so that it'll set to published
[08:21] <FourDollars> Mirv: OK. Let me try it.
[08:21] <Mirv> FourDollars: that setting and its options are confusing, we know, there's a bug about it.
[08:22] <robru> FourDollars: is this change needed for ubuntu touch?
[08:22] <FourDollars> robru: I don't know.
[08:22] <Mirv> robru: looks like desktop
[08:22] <FourDollars> robru: It is for the desktop users.
[08:22] <Mirv> FourDollars: ok, the next step is to assign the silo. then you can click build and it starts building.
[08:23] <robru> ok
[08:23] <FourDollars> Mirv: Still failed. :-(
[08:23] <FourDollars> Mirv: I saw "2015-11-18 08:22:55,354 ERROR Prepare failed: Low on silos: Ask a trainguard to assign."
[08:25] <Mirv> FourDollars: oh! sorry about that, let me check if there's anything to free up some silos.
[08:28] <Mirv> FourDollars: ok you got one?
[08:28] <FourDollars> Mirv: yes
[08:29] <Mirv> I freed one silo
[08:29] <Mirv> FourDollars: great!
[08:29] <FourDollars> Thx a lot~
[08:29] <FourDollars> What should I do now?
[08:30] <Mirv> FourDollars: so now you've a new action "Build" available. that runs a jenkins job which eventually gets the package to the assigned silo (010, https://launchpad.net/~ci-train-ppa-service/+archive/ubuntu/landing-010/) from where you can test it
[08:31] <FourDollars> Mirv: OK
[08:32] <Mirv> FourDollars: so now you received an error regarding the MP that you need to fix
[08:32] <Mirv> FourDollars: the commit message will be used in the changelog entry
[08:33] <Mirv> (you've only set the description so far)
[08:33] <FourDollars> Mirv: I see. Thx.
[08:38] <Mirv> FourDollars: hey, rather just add the commit message on this page: https://code.launchpad.net/~fourdollars/unity-settings-daemon/fix-lowest-brightness/+merge/277326 than in changelog
[08:39] <Mirv> FourDollars: in changelog it's ok but actually it's cleaner if you just revert your last commit and use the commit message field in LP, so that the changelog gets generated automatically
[08:40] <FourDollars> Mirv: OK
[08:40] <bzoltan> jibel: the UITK with the updated translation files is available in silo5.
[09:19] <FourDollars> Mirv: What is the next step?
[09:19] <mardy> Mirv: hi! Is there something I should correct with this? https://requests.ci-train.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/591
[09:23] <Mirv> FourDollars: it would be ready for testing (it's useful to always test the fresh build once more). but the changelog currently looks funny: https://launchpad.net/~ci-train-ppa-service/+archive/ubuntu/landing-010/+sourcepub/5707430/+listing-archive-extra - if you want to fix that, set the text you want in the MP's commit message instead and remove the debian/changelog change from the MP, so that the tra
[09:23] <Mirv> in can generate the changelog by itself.
[09:23] <FourDollars> Mirv: Haha
[09:23] <Mirv> FourDollars: anyway, when ready, upgrade to the PPA, and if the testing is fine you can set the status to "Publish without QA". after that is set, you can either try to publish yourself (it will tell you if you can't), or you can get a trainguard to publish it.
[09:24] <FourDollars> Mirv: OK. Thx.
[09:33] <FourDollars> Mirv: I saw "2015-11-18 09:32:15,795 ERROR Merging failed: No commit message found. Please specify one either in your merge proposal or in debian/changelog." again.
[09:34] <FourDollars> Mirv: Could you tell me where is problem I should fix on https://code.launchpad.net/~fourdollars/unity-settings-daemon/fix-lowest-brightness/+merge/277326?
[09:34] <seb128> FourDollars, do what the error says?
[09:34] <seb128> FourDollars, you need a commit message on the mp and you don't have one, there is a button to set one
[09:35] <FourDollars> seb128: I got it. Thx a lot. :D
[09:35] <seb128> yw
[09:38] <Mirv> FourDollars: yes, now it looks correct! the next build should be fine in the PPA.
[09:39] <FourDollars> Mirv: Thx.
[09:41] <FourDollars> Mirv: I was not aware there is a button to set the commit message on https://code.launchpad.net/~fourdollars/unity-settings-daemon/fix-lowest-brightness/+merge/277326.
[09:42] <Mirv> mardy: it claims to have a gregression in armhf autopkgtests which is why it hasn't migrated http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/proposed-migration/update_excuses.html#online-accounts-api
[09:43] <Mirv> FourDollars: right, that bit of LP I've found a bit weird - when you create the MP, you only can fill the "Description" field - only after the MP is created, you can set the commit message which is what is actually used for merges, changelogs etc.
[09:44] <FourDollars> Mirv: I agree.
[09:45] <FourDollars> It seems that I don't need to use pbuilder or sbuild to build the package manually. I just need to use the CI train.
[09:51] <seb128> Mirv, FourDollars, that statement is untrue, there is a small arrow on the mp submition page which gives you details, including a commit message section
[09:51] <seb128> but yeah, it's not on screen by default
[09:51] <bzoltan> Mirv: zbenjamin: I have pushed the qmake-extras to the silo5 ... it is nothing but a version bump
[09:52] <zbenjamin> bzoltan: ok!
[09:52] <FourDollars> seb128: It is optional so people always ignore it by default. XD
[09:52] <seb128> right, that's annoying
[09:54] <Laney> Not once you get burned by it a few times
[10:02] <Mirv> seb128: wow, I never noticed that
[10:02] <Mirv> I've gradually started to use the Extra Options on other pages but not there before this
[10:03] <Mirv> bzoltan: ok
[10:15] <FourDollars> 2015-11-18 10:14:12,916 ERROR Needs review: https://code.launchpad.net/~fourdollars/unity-settings-daemon/fix-lowest-brightness/+merge/277326
[10:15] <FourDollars> 2015-11-18 10:14:12,917 ERROR Publish failed: unity-settings-daemon has merges in bad states
[10:15] <FourDollars> Mirv: Any idea?
[10:15] <pete-woods> sil2100: okay, we have a successfully built silo again, and seb128 acked the packaging yesterday
[10:16] <pete-woods> I obviously can't publish gmenuharness myself, so what's the next stap?
[10:16] <pete-woods> *step
[10:17] <Mirv> FourDollars: the MP needs to be top-approved (the Status at the top), you can probably ask pitti to do that
[10:17] <FourDollars> Mirv: OK.
[10:19] <xavigarcia> sil2100: Hi there! What would be the statu of silo 000? is it waiting to get reviewed by somebody else?
[10:20] <sil2100> xavigarcia: hey! Yes, we need an archive admin doing the preNEW review, I poked seb128 yesterday but not sure if he wasn't waiting for the package to get renamed
[10:20] <sil2100> seb128: did you manage to take a look at the new package in silo 000?
[10:20] <seb128> xavigarcia, pete-woods, read backlog, that's what pete-woods was talking about
[10:22] <pete-woods> xavigarcia: FYI I manually merged all the outstanding MRs into the tree for seb128's review
[10:22] <pete-woods> so he'd get the complete fiew
[10:22] <pete-woods> view
[10:22] <pete-woods> and the silo just has an empty MR in it now
[10:23] <seb128> I had a look yesterday and it was fine to me, just the descriptions could be a bit more descriptive
[10:23] <pete-woods> yeah, I agree with that
[10:23] <FourDollars> Mirv: What is the next step for https://requests.ci-train.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/672?
[10:23] <pete-woods> you could probably generate those descriptions ;)
[10:24] <sil2100> seb128, pete-woods: remember that you can now always access the merged branch of the train
[10:25] <sil2100> https://code.launchpad.net/~ci-train-bot/gmenuharness/gmenuharness-ubuntu-xenial-landing-000
[10:25] <sil2100> (as an example)
[10:26] <Mirv> FourDollars: it is now published (congrats for your first train publishing!), the next step is simply waiting to see if it migrates from -proposed pocket to -releae pocket, after which the ticket will be marked as Landed. this takes often takes hours at minimum, so there's nothing to do right now. the package is at https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/unity-settings-daemon/15.04.1+16.04.20151118.1-0ubu
[10:26] <pete-woods> yeah, that's good to know :)
[10:26] <Mirv> ntu1
[10:26] <Mirv> FourDollars: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/unity-settings-daemon/15.04.1+16.04.20151118.1-0ubuntu1 (repaste since IRC cut the line)
[10:27] <FourDollars> Mirv: Cool. Thx a lot. :)
[10:27] <Mirv> FourDollars: you're welcome
[10:29] <rvr> xavigarcia: ping
[10:29] <xavigarcia> rvr: pong
[10:30] <rvr> xavigarcia: Hi, yesterday I was testing silo 51
[10:30] <xavigarcia> rvr: I was now testing what you posted for it
[10:30] <rvr> xavigarcia: Ah, cool
[10:31] <xavigarcia> rvr: let me check and will ping you back
[10:31] <rvr> xavigarcia: Sure
[10:31] <xavigarcia> rvr: what was the case exactly when you cannot trigger the warning?
[10:32] <xavigarcia> rvr: after moving volume down or after pressing cancel?
[10:33] <rvr> xavigarcia: Hmm
[10:33] <seb128> FourDollars, congrats on the landing, and thanks for handling it ;-)
[10:33] <rvr> xavigarcia: I pressed "Ok"
[10:33] <xavigarcia> rvr: ah, in that case you approved the warning... and it does not appear again
[10:34] <xavigarcia> rvr: maybe the test plan is not clear enough
[10:34] <rvr> xavigarcia: Yeah, I was confused about what to do with the notification
[10:34] <rvr> xavigarcia: Is there any way to reset it?
[10:35] <xavigarcia> rvr: the idea is that when you approve the warning it should not appear again until you unplug and plug the headphones again
[10:36] <rvr> xavigarcia: Yeah, understood
[10:36] <xavigarcia> rvr: so... unplug the headphones.... keep playing music, plug the headphones again and the warning should be reseted
[10:36] <xavigarcia> rvr: If not it would be annoying for the user to be all the time approving the warning once he already did
[10:37] <rvr> xavigarcia: I thought the notification only appeared once "in a lifetime"
[11:16] <xavigarcia> rvr: sorry, I had a phone call
[11:16] <xavigarcia> rvr: yeah, but there was a bug opened asking to reset that then unplugging the headphones
[11:22] <rvr> xavigarcia: Ack
[12:39] <pete-woods> seb128: so do we need you to do that prenew thingy then? or is that someone else
[12:49] <rvr> xavigarcia_lunch: Take a look to the card (when you're back :)
[13:10] <seb128> pete-woods, I did that yesterday no?
[13:11] <renatu> Mirv, ping
[13:16] <Mirv> renatu: pong
[13:17] <Mirv> renatu: I see your email
[13:17] <renatu> Mirv, I just sent you a e-mail :D
[13:17] <renatu> Mirv, nice thanks
[13:21] <pete-woods> seb128: I have no idea. I don't know how to check what has or hasn't been done on that end. does that mean I just need a properly authorised person to hit "publish" now?
[13:21] <pete-woods> (https://ci-train.ubuntu.com/job/ubuntu-landing-000-2-publish/build)
[13:21] <seb128> somebody with upload rights I guess
[13:22] <pete-woods> seb128: okay, well at least I know you've done the pre-upload now :)
[13:22] <seb128> right
[13:22] <pete-woods> just need to badger for the CI train publish
[13:23] <pete-woods> sil2100: apparently the pre-upload was done by seb already yesterday
[13:23] <pete-woods> I think we just need to publish now
[13:23] <rvr> tvoss: Hey. FYI, silo 47's merge proposals need review.
[13:25] <xavigarcia> rvr: Ok thanks... I'm taking a look
[13:32] <jibel> tvoss, mardy you can publish silo 57 the status is bileto is wrong
[13:33] <xavigarcia> rvr: I have one question... what do you mean with "After the volume confirmation dialog has auto-closed"?
[13:33] <rvr> xavigarcia: The high volume dialog, I wait until it is auto-dismissed
[13:34] <xavigarcia> rvr: ah, ok... good one.. I've never tried that
[13:34] <xavigarcia> rvr: In relation with the volume changing while the warning is showing... you can modify the volume, but it will never go beyond the warning level until you press OK
[13:34] <xavigarcia> rvr: I think that is what we expect
[13:35] <rvr> xavigarcia: The test case explicitly says that volume shouldn't change while the high volume dialog is displayed
[13:35] <xavigarcia> rvr: in relation to the label in the volume notification. After discussion with design we decided that it was best to remove it, as it was not specified in the regulations and because we now have the output label
[13:36] <xavigarcia> rvr: I think I need to update the test plan
[13:36] <rvr> xavigarcia: Yes, please :)
[13:36] <xavigarcia> rvr: I will confirm with the spec first, but in relation to the label it was removed intentionally
[13:36] <mterry> sil2100, robru: I have a silo I want to add a manually uploaded package to. It's been a little while since I've done this. I add the package name to the "Source Package Names" field and just upload to the ppa? for both overlay and xenial?
[13:36] <xavigarcia> rvr: OK, I will update and will ping you when it's ready
[13:37] <xavigarcia> rvr: I also need to test the auto-dismissed warning dialog. I don't think that's what we want to happen
[13:44] <xavigarcia> rvr: Ok, I managed to recreate the issue you mention... looking for a fix. thanks!
[13:45] <jibel> robru, hey, some silos in bileto have a status 'Requesting autopkgtests for this silo...' can you fix them?
[13:53] <rvr> xavigarcia: Ack
[13:59] <tvoss> rvr, I know
[13:59] <tvoss> rvr, see comment on the silo
[14:01] <rvr> tvoss: The reason to do QA after reviews is that, even if the developer doesn't expect any change, there could be, and would be wasted time if verification was done or in progress.
[14:02] <tvoss> rvr, as you wish, I just set it to qa'able as it works fine
[14:05] <bzoltan> Mirv: could you help me with the silo number five?
[14:14] <Mirv> bzoltan: helping
[14:15] <bzoltan> Mirv: thank you
[14:17] <bzoltan> Mirv: ^ WUT?
[14:18] <bzoltan> Mirv: queuebot: 3.5.2+16.04.20151118-0ubuntu1
[14:18] <Mirv> bzoltan: might be because of the binary -> source trick. I'll publish manually.
[14:18] <bzoltan> Mirv: could be. Thank you
[14:21] <bfiller> is errors.ubuntu.com working for anyone? I keep getting Aw Snap page in chromium
[14:28] <jibel> bfiller, works fine here
[14:28] <sil2100> mterry: hey! Yeah, that's more or less what you should do
[14:28] <mterry> sil2100, cool
[14:29] <bfiller> jibel: weird ok
[14:48] <seb128> pmcgowan, jibel, there was langpack regression in the ota8 candidate pointed this morning on #ubuntu-touch, unsure how much of an issue it is
[14:48] <seb128> I reported https://bugs.launchpad.net/canonical-devices-system-image/+bug/1517501 about it
[14:49] <seb128> basically the unity8 translations got reverted to their june state because somebody changed the domain on launchpad
[14:51] <pmcgowan> wha??
[14:51] <sil2100> huh?
[14:54] <sil2100> I wonder how serious it is
[14:54] <sil2100> rvr: hey, could you install the recent rc image and check if unity8 translations look okayish?
[14:54] <seb128> xavigarcia, charles, shrug, seems like the most recent indicator-sound landing regressed notifications under unity7, mouse scrolling over the indicator makes notify-osd grumpy :-/
[14:54] <seb128> xavigarcia, charles, reported https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/indicator-sound/+bug/1517502
[14:54] <rvr> seb128: o_O
[14:55] <seb128> xavigarcia, charles, that's 2 recent regressions under unity7, you guys need to start testing your changes on desktop as well please
[14:57] <seb128> rvr, sil2100, pmcgowan, seems we fixed the template at the right time, today langpacks in the overlay fixes the issue
[14:57] <seb128> the ones that landed an hour ago
[14:57] <rvr> seb128: Cool
[14:57] <sil2100> seb128: still, this would mean we'd need to import the new langpacks to OTA-8 and re-spin
[14:58] <seb128> right
[14:58] <sil2100> Which is pretty bad
[14:58] <seb128> well I think that the revert to june is an issue for e.g Chinese
[14:58] <seb128> they had incomplete translations by then
[14:58] <seb128> and we lost quite some strings
[14:58] <rvr> Right
[14:58] <sil2100> pmcgowan, jibel, rvr: we need to check this, we might need to re-spin or issue an emergency OTA-8+
[14:58] <seb128> see https://launchpadlibrarian.net/226898897/language-pack-touch-zh-hans_1%3A15.04%2B20151111_1%3A15.04%2B20151118.diff.gz
[15:00] <seb128> strings like "Device Locked" or "Power" or "Return to Call" were lost
[15:00] <seb128> remove/add to favorite, pull to refresh
[15:00] <seb128> going to be quite a step back on chinese
[15:05] <xavigarcia> seb128: roger that.... I will take a look
[15:05] <seb128> xavigarcia, thanks
[15:06] <xavigarcia> seb128: is this happening in wily?
[15:06] <seb128> xavigarcia, I guess not, that landing was in xenial only
[15:07] <seb128> xavigarcia, though I didn't try wily in the overlay ppa if that's what you mean
[15:07] <xavigarcia> seb128: so to recreate... I should move the mouse over any sound notification?
[15:07] <seb128> xavigarcia, no, you should mouse scroll over the indicator to change the volume
[15:08] <seb128> like using a mouse wheel or touchpad edge scrolling/fingers
[15:08] <xavigarcia> seb128: ah, ok... understood
[15:08] <pete-woods> seb128: FYI, when I've tried to run changes to packages (e.g. HUD) through the QA process, I was told that QA don't do desktop packages, only phone ones
[15:08] <seb128> xavigarcia, did you change the format of the notifications?
[15:08] <pete-woods> so the only testing will be done by the devs themselves
[15:08] <seb128> pete-woods, right, doesn't mean devs shouldn't test on their unity7 sessions
[15:09] <xavigarcia> seb128: I've only added a label to show the output
[15:09] <pete-woods> seb128: sure, just thought that info might be useful
[15:09] <seb128> pete-woods, it is, thanks
[15:09] <pete-woods> (like, I think it's probably an issue - that we don't have enough QA resource to do the desktop)
[15:10] <xavigarcia> seb128: just to double check... you are changing the volume with the mouse wheel?
[15:10] <seb128> xavigarcia, yes
[15:11] <xavigarcia> seb128: Ok, I'm never doing that
[15:11] <seb128> xavigarcia, is there other ways to make indicator-sound send notifications on unity7?
[15:11] <seb128> middle click for muting seems also to bug
[15:12] <seb128> though I'm unsure that was sending a notification
[15:12] <Trevinho> seb128: no, there was no notification on middle-click
[15:12] <seb128> k, makes sense
[15:12] <xavigarcia> seb128: the change I've added is just adding a string. That, in fact, I didn't add in first place
[15:13] <xavigarcia> seb128: that string was added for the warning notification dialog, but now the string is shown all the time
[15:13] <xavigarcia> seb128: anyway... will keep an eye and will try to get it fixed asap
[15:14] <Trevinho> thanks
[15:14] <pmcgowan> seb128, sil2100 yeah I dont know that we can ship that
[15:14] <seb128> xavigarcia, we are discussing it on #ubuntu-desktop
[15:14] <pmcgowan> whats it take to fix, one langpack?
[15:14] <seb128> xavigarcia, <larsu> seb128: got it. It sends a title for the notification now, which throws off notify osd
[15:15] <seb128> pmcgowan, well, all locales are buggy, but some probably had an ok status in june and it doesn't matter much
[15:15] <pmcgowan> seb128, how did this happen?
[15:15] <seb128> pmcgowan, somebody changed the unity8 domain name on launchpad
[15:15] <seb128> but seems like launchpad has no log of those events
[15:16] <seb128> so we don't know why/when/why
[15:16] <seb128> it made the langpack update not have an unity8.po but an unity90something.po
[15:16] <pmcgowan> seb128, sil2100 I would vote to fix it with a respin
[15:16] <sil2100> Maybe we could get some logs from LP through the launchpad admins?
[15:16] <pmcgowan> the teal issue is we didnt detect it
[15:17] <seb128> I asked on #launchpad earlier but wgrant didn't find any record of a change
[15:17] <sil2100> Ah, ok, good
[15:17] <seb128> well "good"
[15:17] <sil2100> pmcgowan: I'll copy the langpacks over to the snapshot PPA in a moment
[15:17] <pmcgowan> yep
[15:17] <sil2100> Well, good that you asked ;)
[15:17] <seb128> except it happened, we have no record of it and no way to know it's not going to happena gain
[15:18] <sil2100> Indeed...
[15:18] <pmcgowan> seems we could detect that we regressed the packs, are they versioned?
[15:18] <sil2100> pmcgowan: I wonder if BQ noticed any regressions in the translations
[15:18] <sil2100> rvr: did you have a chance to check the rc image?
[15:18] <rvr> sil2100: On it
[15:18] <sil2100> pmcgowan: they're versioned, yes, but no one checks their contents as it would be crazy, I would suspect us seeing it during testing
[15:19] <sil2100> Maybe they didn't regress enough to trigger a red flag during QA
[15:19] <pmcgowan> sil2100, we should have an auto test for it, not quite sure how to define it
[15:19] <seb128> sil2100, I think main european languages were fine in their june version
[15:19] <seb128> so likely little different for e.g spanish
[15:19] <rvr> sil2100: pmcgowan: While testing OTA8, I didn't found any big problem
[15:19] <xavigarcia> seb128: so, just to be clear... is this something I need to fix or should be fixed in unity7?
[15:19] <sil2100> We might indeed do a test for this case of a change in the domain name
[15:19] <rvr> in Spanish
[15:20] <seb128> xavigarcia, maybe you can join #ubuntu-desktop?
[15:20] <seb128> xavigarcia, unsure, Lars is looking at the notifications specification
[15:20] <pmcgowan> sil2100, its very important for chinese to be as well translated as possible
[15:21] <sil2100> pmcgowan: yeah, indeed, I wonder since I suppose the meizu.zh channel was tested by the China team
[15:21] <sil2100> jibel: ^
[15:22] <seb128> sil2100, pmcgowan, looking at the diff things like "Device Locked" or "Power" or "Return to Call" were lost
[15:22] <seb128> or "pull to refresh"
[15:22] <seb128> in the chinese translations
[15:22] <rvr> I found many untranslated strings for click packages in Chinese
[15:22] <rvr> But unfortunately I didn't compare with the previous run
[15:22] <rvr> (from August)
[15:24] <rvr> For a subset of debian packages, these are the stats:
[15:24] <rvr> $ wc -l deb*.log
[15:24] <rvr> 46 deb-es.log
[15:24] <rvr> 46 deb-fr.log
[15:24] <rvr> 60 deb-zh_CN.log
[15:25] <rvr> 60 untranslated strings for Chinese and 46 for Spanish and French
[15:25] <rvr> For click packages:
[15:25] <rvr> 20 click-es.log
[15:25] <rvr> 17 click-fr.log
[15:25] <rvr> 207 click-zh_CN.log
[15:25] <sil2100> So, before I copy all langpacks, I would like someone to make triple sure that the current langpacks fit to the contents of OTA-8
[15:26] <rvr> Which is a similar figure (a bit lower) than in August
[15:28] <rvr> sil2100: In rc #182, in webbrowser-app.mo I see PO-Revision-Date: 2015-09-24 06:53+0000
[15:29] <sil2100> I think the biggest issue is unity8 translations
[15:29] <sil2100> As that's what regressed
[15:30] <rvr> 2015-09-24
[15:30] <rvr> sil2100: Yeah, checking more recent dates in https://translations.launchpad.net/ubuntu-rtm/15.04/+lang/es
[15:31] <rvr> sil2100: unity8 PO-Revision-Date: 2014-08-26 12:31+0000
[15:31] <rvr> Bad
[15:31] <rvr> In launchpad, unity8 was last edited on 2015-11-11
[15:32] <davmor2> rvr: blame Saviq it won't fix it but you feel so much better ;)
[15:36] <bzoltan> seb128: I need a coredev to ack the silo5 ... it is pure string update no code change. Would you please help me?
[15:36] <seb128> bzoltan, looking
[15:37] <seb128> bzoltan, ubuntu-sdk-qmake-extras seems to no exist in Ubuntu atm?
[15:38] <bzoltan> seb128: it does... it used to come from different source. the qtcreator-plugin-ubuntu used to provide it. No it is a separate project
[15:38] <seb128> bzoltan, so it's not as trivial as a pure string update
[15:38] <bzoltan> zbenjamin: or how was it? ^
[15:39] <bzoltan> seb128: wait a sec... am I an idiot or not?
[15:39] <zbenjamin> bzoltan: yes we had to split it off the qtcreator-plugin-ubuntu
[15:39] <bzoltan> seb128: Ohh.. yes, that revision has the shorter control... seb128 is right
[15:39] <sil2100> rvr: could you upgrade your rc device with the latest overlay-ppa langpack for spanish and check if everything looks okayish? Remember that the rc image has stable-snapshot in the sources.list - you need to change it to the overlay first
[15:40] <rvr> sil2100: Ok
[15:40] <sil2100> rvr: thanks :)
[15:44] <bzoltan> zbenjamin: so we need to land the ubuntu-sdk-qmake-extras to 16.04 asap
[15:45] <bzoltan> seb128: zbenjamin: hold on.. we do have that package, I have landed it myself - http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?keywords=ubuntu-sdk-qmake-extras
[15:45] <seb128> bzoltan, https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubuntu-sdk-qmake-extras
[15:45] <bzoltan> seb128: but too old
[15:46] <seb128> ah, it's in the NEW queue
[15:46] <seb128> let me review it
[15:47] <bzoltan> seb128: Huhh... thanks bigbang we have coredevs who udnerstand these things :D
[15:48] <rvr> sil2100: seb128: So, at least in Spanish, the language files that are not up-to-date are dialer-app, indicator-sound, messaging-app, telephony-service, ubuntu-system-settings and unity8
[15:48] <seb128> bzoltan, that package seems arch neutral, shouldn't be be arch all rather than any?
[15:48] <sil2100> rvr: with the latest overlay langpacks?
[15:49] <rvr> sil2100: No, no, with current rc
[15:49] <sil2100> Ah, ok
[15:49] <zbenjamin> seb128: it needs to be installed into the qt arch specific directories
[15:49] <sil2100> Well, the most recent regression that we're about to fix is the unity8 one
[15:49] <seb128> zbenjamin, ah, ok
[15:50] <rvr> sil2100: What about the others?
[15:50] <seb128> zbenjamin, bzoltan, the export DPKG_GENSYMBOLS_CHECK_LEVEL=4 in the rules is not needed but it's not an issue either ... NEW accepting it
[15:50] <sil2100> rvr: those should be ok, nothing we can do here, the langpacks are auto-generated and we didn't get any news of the domain changing for those
[15:50] <seb128> bzoltan, I published now as well
[15:51] <bzoltan> seb128: thanks, i will fix it and land it for the next round
[15:51] <pete-woods> trainguards: who do I need to bug to click the publish button for the new package (gmenuharness) in silo 000? (seb already pre-new'ed it and acked the packaging)
[15:52] <sil2100> So if there are regressions there then those are from different reasons, we'll have to investigate separately
[15:52] <pete-woods> do we need to corner an archive admin or something?
[15:52] <sil2100> pete-woods: ok, let me press the button then :)
[15:52] <bzoltan> seb128: ^ wadahell?
[15:52] <seb128> bzoltan, hum, publish failed because of ^
[15:52] <sil2100> pete-woods: I can do it as the package is treated by default as an universe package I suppose, it will land in xenial NEW for archive admins and in the overlay
[15:53] <seb128> bzoltan, looks like pitti already landed it ?! https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubuntu-ui-toolkit/1.3.1705+16.04.20151118-0ubuntu1
[15:53] <bzoltan> seb128: feels like Mirv has published it manually
[15:53] <seb128> yeah, unsure what's going on there
[15:53] <seb128> but it's uploaded
[15:54] <rvr> sil2100: What do I need to change in sources.list again?
[15:54] <bzoltan> seb128: that is the most important! thanks for your help
[15:54] <seb128> yw
[15:54] <sil2100> rvr: I think the sources.list has stable-snapshot instead of overlay, right?
[15:54] <pete-woods> sil2100: awesome, thanks!
[15:54] <pete-woods> I guess the MIR will happen as a separate task
[15:54] <rvr> deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/ci-train-ppa-service/stable-phone-overlay/ubuntu
[15:56] <sil2100> pete-woods: yw!
[16:00] <sil2100> rvr: hm, ok, could you check if pinning is ok as well?
[16:01] <rvr> sil2100: Pin: release o=LP-PPA-ci-train-ppa-service-stable-phone-overlay Pin-Priority: 1001
[16:01] <sil2100> rvr: anyway, strange that the rc images don't have stable-snapshot in it... you sure you using rc, not rc-proposed? And latest?
[16:01] <rvr> Oh, shit
[16:01] <rvr> this is rc-proposed
[16:01] <sil2100> Well, not a big deal, we only had a few landings
[16:02] <rvr> sil2100: Just re-checked the dates
[16:02] <sil2100> But still, best to flash rc ;) And there you'd have to change both pin priority and sources.list
[16:02] <rvr> sil2100: Most are one day off and another is an update for OTA9
[16:02] <rvr> sil2100: So just unity8 looks fine
[16:02] <sil2100> \o/
[16:03] <sil2100> Anyway, I suppose using current langpacks is better than the previous thing...
[16:03] <sil2100> Copying to snapshot
[16:06] * rvr is finally flashing rc
[16:27] <rvr> This upgrade takes time
[16:45] <rvr> sil2100: unity8.mo (es) X-Launchpad-Export-Date: 2015-11-18 10:31+0000
[16:46] <rvr> sil2100: unity8.mo (zh_CN) PO-Revision-Date: 2015-07-28 03:57+0000 X-Launchpad-Export-Date: 2015-11-18 10:31+0000
[16:50] <rvr> sil2100: zh_CH revision date matches Launchpad (2015-07-28), so looks good
[16:53] <pmcgowan> sil2100, rvr what did we end up changing in the respin then, all the langpacks or just unity8
[17:00] <sil2100> pmcgowan: all the langpacks, there was nothing landing that could cause a regression in langpacks
[17:01] <sil2100> pmcgowan: since... generating separate langpacks would be really troublesome
[17:01] <sil2100> rvr, pmcgowan: am I good to copy the langpacks to the snapshot PPA?
[17:02] <pmcgowan> sil2100, do we have an image yet?
[17:02] <pmcgowan> I would copy after verifying the image?
[17:02] <pmcgowan> or does the image use the snapshot
[17:02] <sil2100> We can't have an image without copying to the snapshot
[17:02] <pmcgowan> then yes :)
[17:03] <sil2100> But rvr checked the langpacks manually on the rc image ;)
[17:03] <pmcgowan> got it
[17:04] <sil2100> Ok, copying in progress, once it's done I instantly build an image
[17:05] <rvr> sil2100: Looks good
[17:19] <sil2100> rvr, jibel: image building
[17:20] <sil2100> I jump out now for a walk
[17:20] <jibel> sil2100, okay, I rechecking the language packs you cpoied to the stable snapshit
[17:20] <jibel> oops, snapshot*
[17:21] <jibel> sorry
[17:26] <kenvandine> jibel, system-settings is held up in proposed because it's waiting for autopkgtests from ubuntu-system-settings-online-accounts, which claims to be "Test in progress" on the excuses page
[17:27] <kenvandine> jibel, if i click on the Test in progress link, it shows passed tests, not currently running tests
[17:27] <kenvandine> is the status broken? or does it only show completed tests?
[17:28] <jibel> kenvandine, I cannot help, it's entirely pitti's domain now. sorry
[17:28] <kenvandine> jibel, ah, ok
[17:29] <kenvandine> i suspect the tests are running but it doesn't show that on the status page, but we'll see :)
[17:34] <robru> mterry: yep, you're a core dev so you can just dput directly to the silo PPAs. Other people need trainguards/core=devs to do itfor them.
[17:52] <jibel> rvr, sil2100 here are all the string changes in unity8 between 34 and the image currently building.
[17:52] <jibel> http://paste.ubuntu.com/13332679/
[18:07] <cjwatson> the liburcu/ppc64el problems are fixed now, so that should unblock mir/qtmir (modulo whatever library transition problems are involved)
[18:09] <dobey> kenvandine: are they running on the running page? :)
[18:11] <dobey> hmm, it's not
[18:16] <pmcgowan> jibel, did anything change outside of unity8?
[18:17] <pmcgowan> sil2100, jibel see my email to john mc
[18:17] <jibel> sil2100, pmcgowan rvr here is the list of strings that were not translated http://paste.ubuntu.com/13332907/ essentially greeter and indicators
[18:17] <jibel> pmcgowan, no nothing else
[18:19] <jibel> pmcgowan, chinese, turkish, basque and greek had much more strings missing than other languages.
[18:20] <pmcgowan> apparently
[18:20] <pmcgowan> jibel, are you comfortable with a sanity check on the respin and then publish that
[18:21] <jibel> pmcgowan, let me check what landed in vivid through SRUs
[18:22] <pmcgowan> jibel, I thought we didnt pick those up now?
[18:22] <bzoltan> pmcgowan: jibel: the translation stuff of the UITK has landed on the Overlay
[18:23] <pmcgowan> bzoltan, yep saw that
[18:23] <pmcgowan> bzoltan, we really just needed it in trunk so translators could do there thing
[18:23] <jibel> bzoltan, yes, thanks for that
[18:23] <bzoltan> pmcgowan: small thing, but makes difference.. it was an easy landing
[18:25] <jibel> sil2100, anything in vivid is not in the snapshot and pulled from the archive directly?
[18:30] <jibel> pmcgowan, any package not in the ppa is installed from vivid, I don't think sil2100 copies everytghin to the stable-snapshot
[18:31] <pmcgowan> jibel, he mentioned something yesterday about changing this but I was not clear on it
[18:31] <pmcgowan> it being controlling what came in from updates
[18:32] <jibel> pmcgowan, the only risk would have been lxc but the broken version is in proposed so it's fine to sanity check the image the respin and publish
[18:32] <pmcgowan> this must be the new verbose ci train
[18:32] <pmcgowan> jibel, great
[18:32] <jibel> pmcgowan, but I'd need a diff of the manifest to be really sure
[18:32] <pmcgowan> yep
[18:33] <jibel> or the delta once it's on system-image
[18:45] <kenvandine> dobey, where's the running page?
[18:55] <dobey> kenvandine: http://autopkgtest.ubuntu.com/running.html
[18:55] <kenvandine> dobey, thx
[18:56] <pmcgowan> jibel, when we build the new image do we still have the option to publish the last one?
[18:56] <dobey> kenvandine: the "Running" link at the top of the status pages on autopkgtest.u.c :)
[18:56] <mterry> robru, nice status verbosity changes. Looks very verbose now, but presumably better to err on that side :)
[18:56] <kenvandine> dobey, so clearly something's broken here :/
[18:57] <dobey> kenvandine: assuming that "in progress" does not also mean "waiting in a queue you can't see"
[18:57] <mterry> robru, tiny feature request in that regard -- endlines after each status line?
[18:57] <kenvandine> dobey, perhaps
[18:57] <sil2100> pmcgowan: yes
[18:57] <sil2100> pmcgowan: we do
[18:58] <sil2100> pmcgowan: I'm importing the new image to the rc channel now... but we can publish the previous one no problem
[18:59] <pmcgowan> ok
[19:22] <robru> mterry: yeah that's something I need to figure out. I can't put real newlines in the strings because it breaks the IRC ping. but maybe I can s/./.\n/ in the web view or something
[19:23] <robru> mterry: also I should probably take the arches off 'Successfully built' so that statuses like ^^ are simpler.
[19:24] <mterry> robru, yeah. And/or replace "amd64" with "all" or "*" when appropriate; unless you know the packages is arch: all, it makes it seem like it only built for one arch
[19:24] <robru> mterry: that's a bit harder as the code that reports that doesn't have knowledge of the packaging, only what it sees in the ppa
[19:25] <mterry> robru, ah fair, then not worth it :)
[19:26] <robru> mterry: oh god it takes 18 minutes to set all statuses for all silos.
[19:26] <robru> I need to parallelize this somehow
[19:35] <sil2100> pmcgowan: see my OTA-8 proposition I just sent through e-mail
[20:48] <robru> mterry: how's that: https://requests.ci-train.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/670 ?
[20:49] <mterry> robru, looks good. Is it obvious if not all arches are built? Like one arch has a ftbfs or something?
[20:50] <robru> mterry: I've just changed it so that if the status is the same on all arches, it hides the arch list, but if the statuses are different on different arches it'll say "Failed to build [i386] Sucessfully built [amd64 etc et]"
[20:50] <mterry> robru, awesome
[20:51] <robru> mterry: just like that ^ ;-)
[20:51] <mterry> :)
[22:14] <mterry> robru, I'm seeing that error you just emailed about on https://requests.ci-train.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/255
[22:14] <robru> mterry: looking
[22:16] <robru> mterry: sigh, there's a lot of silos (sighlos?) affected by this. I'm tempted to just declare bankruptcy on that one check, clear it from all silos...
[22:18] <robru> mterry: what I really need to do is re-engineer that check so it doesn't cache any data that can get into an inconsistent state.
[22:19] <mterry> robru, that sounds suspiciously like work
[22:19] <robru> heh
[22:20] <robru> mterry: this is just another in a long line of bugs where the train tries to save some state on disk, but then the world changes around it, and the state on disk is inconsistent with the world, and it causes problems.
[22:20] <robru> mterry: I'm trying really hard to eliminate the concept of "state" that can become "inconsistent". Checking authoritative sources directly, etc
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[04:36] <jabuk> M 1.2 > 3.km JV od PIVKE @18/11/2015 05:21:21 https://maps.google.com/?q=45.66+N,+14.22+E
[06:48] <napsy_> jutro
[06:48] <zdobersek> jaj
[06:48] <zdobersek> a
[06:51] <slax0r> jutro
[06:52] <idioterna> mhm
[06:59] <slax0r> sm slisu da smo u vojni
[06:59] <napsy_> v lkubljani se ni blo sirene
[07:00] <zdobersek> v Parizu majo racije
[07:09] <zdobersek> https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CT-EO2PVAAATufO.jpg
[09:28] <CrazyLemon> !g engineering dobersek
[09:28] <Pepelka> Engineering Dobersek ® GmbH - Home http://www.ed-mg.de/
[09:29] <CrazyLemon> zdobbie is that you? ^
[09:29] <zdobbie> nope
[09:31] <CrazyLemon> suuuuure
[09:39] <yang> his brother from another father
[10:43] <CrazyLemon> https://www.facebook.com/Maicol0202RD/videos/873255066097458/
[10:43] <Pepelka> MAICOL 02 - Se Perdio JOSE | Facebook
[10:43] <Pepelka> »Y mas nunca supimos nada de jose«
[11:08] <zdobbie> sel Zano v franze :|
[11:37] <zdobbie_> ping
[11:37] <jabuk> zdobbie_: pong
[11:37] <zdobbie_> k
[11:44] <CrazyLemon> ce bo kdo mel tezave z default windows appi (store, xbox, calendar, mail etc) je edina resitev nov account
[11:44] <CrazyLemon> install/reinstall does not work!
[11:44] <dz0ny> I wipe that shit
[11:44] <CrazyLemon> i learned that the hard way!
[11:45] <CrazyLemon> dz0ny wiping that shit can cause issues
[11:45] <CrazyLemon> anyway..windows sux
[11:46] <dz0ny> nope
[11:46] <CrazyLemon> .rt
[11:46] <jabuk> Trenutno se predvaja: Jack Savoretti - Back Where I Belong. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u2XXi5u7gXg
[11:46] <dz0ny> k mas image za podjetja k nima
[11:46] <dz0ny> https://github.com/Nummer/Destroy-Windows-10-Spying/releases
[11:46] <Pepelka> Releases · Nummer/Destroy-Windows-10-Spying · GitHub
[11:46] <Pepelka> »Destroy-Windows-10-Spying - Remove windows 10 spying tool«
[11:46] <dz0ny> in to isto nardi
[11:46] <dz0ny> iz win installa pobriše prek istega toola
[11:46] <jabuk> http://i.imgur.com/lmmBt.gif
[11:46] <dz0ny> fyi win10 ma apt like pakete
[11:47] <dz0ny> in en cli tool za upravljanje le teh
[11:47] <CrazyLemon> getappxpackage?
[11:48] <CrazyLemon> podatki o paketih so shranjeni v en .xml fajl
[11:48] <CrazyLemon> meni tega fajla ni naslo..nek manifest xml
[11:48] <CrazyLemon> in nism mogu instalirat appov
[11:49] <dz0ny> jaz sm vidu da so v system image
[11:49] <dz0ny> in jih tam probrise
[11:49] <dz0ny> ja Remove-AppxPackage
[11:50] <dz0ny> CrazyLemon: https://github.com/W4RH4WK/Debloat-Windows-10/blob/master/scripts/remove-default-apps.ps1
[11:50] <Pepelka> Debloat-Windows-10/remove-default-apps.ps1 at master · W4RH4WK/Debloat-Windows-10 · GitHub
[11:50] <Pepelka> »Debloat-Windows-10 - A collection of Scripts which disable / remove Windows 10 Features and Apps«
[11:50] <dz0ny> podobno
[11:51] <CrazyLemon> pa se ena major neumnost
[11:51] <CrazyLemon> ko gres na store
[11:51] <CrazyLemon> zahteva vpis z ms računom
[11:51] <dz0ny> Remove-AppxProvisionedPackage
[11:51] <CrazyLemon> če želiš inštalirat app
[11:51] <dz0ny> wipneš store pa je mir :)
[11:51] <CrazyLemon> dz0ny js jih nocem odstranit
[11:51] <CrazyLemon> ampak instalirat :D
[11:52] <dz0ny> oh but why?
[11:52] <dz0ny> sej je neuporabno
[11:52] <dz0ny> not my comment
[11:52] <CrazyLemon> dz0ny zate
[11:52] <CrazyLemon> in zame
[11:52] <dz0ny> i was tasked to do that
[11:52] <CrazyLemon> ampak za necakinjo in sestro
[11:52] <CrazyLemon> pa je kul da zdownloadajo z windows store
[11:52] <CrazyLemon> in ne z xy sitea
[11:52] <CrazyLemon> in potem posledicno js imam manj tezav :)
[11:53] <dz0ny> k bodo zihr z store dol vlekl :D
[11:53] <CrazyLemon> dz0ny ampak tudi ta github link
[11:53] <CrazyLemon> je ohranil store
[11:53] <CrazyLemon> pa photos
[11:53] <CrazyLemon> :)
[11:55] <dz0ny> ja se razume da moras uredit po svoje
[11:55] <dz0ny> sam pa mas ime tam :)
[11:57] <CrazyLemon> anyway..zdaj 'sam' se moram ugotovit zakaj se ugasa
[11:58] <dz0ny> k hoce nasmetit posodobitve
[11:58] <dz0ny> to pocne kak teden
[11:58] <dz0ny> al pa vsakic ko so posodobitve
[11:58] <dz0ny> mas v teh skriptah tud to
[11:58] <dz0ny> da onemogoci
[11:58] <dz0ny> silly behaviour
[11:58] <CrazyLemon> onemogoci kaj?
[11:58] <dz0ny> forced rebbot on update of app/system
[11:59] <CrazyLemon> i had nothing but silly behaviour
[11:59] <CrazyLemon> ampak zato ker se hudic pregreva..pa se mi ugasne sredi upgrejda
[11:59] <dz0ny> lol
[11:59] <CrazyLemon> in pol se zazene system restore
[11:59] <dz0ny> ja
[11:59] <CrazyLemon> in se ugasne tudi tam.. ce imam sreco prezivi system restore
[11:59] <CrazyLemon> in potem ni več default appov not
[11:59] <dz0ny> lost cause
[11:59] <dz0ny> rly
[11:59] <CrazyLemon> ker jih ocitno system restore b0rka
[12:00] <CrazyLemon> tko da ja.. zgleda lepo
[12:00] <CrazyLemon> but sux
[12:00] <dz0ny> win7?
[12:00] <CrazyLemon> :D
[12:00] <CrazyLemon> 10
[12:00] <dz0ny> ne win7 namesti :)
[12:00] <dz0ny> intel?
[12:00] <dz0ny> al pset tvoj apu?
[12:00] <dz0ny> spet*
[12:00] <CrazyLemon> sm mel..pa sm ga posodobil na 10 :P
[12:01] <CrazyLemon> i5 ja
[12:01] <dz0ny> namesti tist intel engine thingy
[12:01] <CrazyLemon> sej zadeva lepo dela
[12:01] <CrazyLemon> sam ne stekam zakaj se pregreva
[12:01] <dz0ny> to bo resil pregrevanje
[12:01] <CrazyLemon> kot da so driverji b0rked
[12:01] <dz0ny> mhm
[12:01] <dz0ny> nikol ne gre v en mode ko je core ugasnjen
[12:02] <dz0ny> in rabis tist intel app da to uravnava
[12:02] <dz0ny> na linux pa lpa paket
[12:02] <dz0ny> al lpe
[12:02] <CrazyLemon> ahh makes sense..sm mislu da je hw issue
[12:02] <CrazyLemon> ker sm prek liveusbja testiral
[12:02] <CrazyLemon> pa je tudi mrknu
[12:02] <dz0ny> kater prenosnik?
[12:02] <CrazyLemon> acer aspire
[12:03] <CrazyLemon> !g 5741g
[12:03] <Pepelka> Slike za poizvedbo 5741g 5741g
[12:03] <CrazyLemon> fckin pepelka
[12:04] <CrazyLemon> a ti govoris za intel management engine?
[12:04] <dz0ny> mhm
[12:05] <dz0ny> nek fw celo nalozi v bridge
[12:05] <CrazyLemon> ampak kot vidim je sam za nuc
[12:05] <dz0ny> da zadeva pravilno dela
[12:05] <CrazyLemon> vsaj vsi win10 buildi so taki
[12:05] <dz0ny> sam zgleda mas precej star i5?
[12:05] <dz0ny> ne vem od katere gen je to
[12:05] <CrazyLemon> ja
[12:05] <CrazyLemon> 09
[12:05] <dz0ny> to takrat zihr ni blo
[12:06] <CrazyLemon> !g 2009 i5 430m
[12:06] <Pepelka> Intel Core i7 720QM vs i5 430M - CPUBoss http://cpuboss.com/cpus/Intel-Core-i7-720QM-vs-Intel-Core-i5-430M
[12:06] <CrazyLemon> evo..ravno ko sm hotu zdownloada intel driver utility
[12:06] <CrazyLemon> se ugasne
[12:07] <CrazyLemon> pa sploh ni vroč
[12:08] <dz0ny> mogoče je pa senzor fuč
[12:08] <dz0ny> probi z kakim toolom gledat
[12:08] <CrazyLemon> sm gledal temp
[12:08] <CrazyLemon> sam je cudn reading
[12:08] <dz0ny> na žalost je v procesorju
[12:08] <CrazyLemon> temp zraste tam do 60
[12:08] <CrazyLemon> mal se vključi vent
[12:08] <CrazyLemon> pa tkoj pade za 10°
[12:08] <CrazyLemon> kar ni sans da tko hitro pade
[12:08] <dz0ny> bios update
[12:09] <CrazyLemon> done
[12:09] <CrazyLemon> nic boljse
[12:09] <dz0ny> v skrino pa bios udpate :D
[12:09] <CrazyLemon> haha.. ni dosti manjkalo ves :D
[12:09] <CrazyLemon> ful me je bilo strah da bo crknu med updejtom..sam na sreco ni :D
[12:09] <CrazyLemon> ping
[12:09] <jabuk> CrazyLemon: pong
[12:09] <dz0ny> ja ponavad gre tam v turbo fan mode
[12:09] <CrazyLemon> dz0ny mhm
[12:10] <dz0ny> kaj pa ce je kernel panic
[12:10] <CrazyLemon> tko da ja..ocitno bo senzor ker js druge ideje nimam
[12:10] <dz0ny> mogoce kaj povozi ram
[12:10] <dz0ny> sam ce dela na linxu in win bo res hw
[12:10] <jabuk> http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-rmJLwpPevTg/UOEBgVNiVFI/AAAAAAAAFFY/-At3Z_DzBbw/s1600/dancing+charlie+murphy+animated+gif+victory+dance.gif
[12:11] <CrazyLemon> poskusil sem vse kar se poskusiti da
[12:11] <CrazyLemon> dz0ny pol bi bil bsod ane?
[12:11] <dz0ny> ja ceprov ce je kaj z shared gpu tega ne boš vidu
[12:11] <CrazyLemon> jp..ko sm na liveusbju pognal povray je crknu tam pri 40%
[12:12] <dz0ny> kaj pa ce prisilno ohlajas?
[12:12] <CrazyLemon> like.. how? :D
[12:12] <CrazyLemon> aja..da bi mel spodaj tist laptop stand?
[12:12] <dz0ny> sej mate zidance tam pr vas
[12:12] <dz0ny> en hladen prostor
[12:13] <dz0ny> zvecer, kaksna garaza itd
[12:13] <CrazyLemon> ja..necakinjo bom poslal v hladen prostor ko bo hotela izdelovat powerpoint predstavitve :P
[12:13] <dz0ny> pr me nto ni problem
[12:13] <dz0ny> ne
[12:13] <dz0ny> zdej da vidis ce je res hw issue
[12:13] <dz0ny> k ce reboota tud ko je mraz
[12:13] <CrazyLemon> edino če bi ga dal na tla v kleti
[12:13] <CrazyLemon> tam je the "coldest" place
[12:14] <CrazyLemon> (okrog 15+°)
[12:15] <Sky[x]> :D
[12:17] <dz0ny> http://imgur.com/gallery/uHxS6
[12:17] <Pepelka> Star Wars Attack of The Clones - The Matrix Easter Egg - Album on Imgur
[12:17] <Pepelka> »Imgur: The most awesome images on the Internet.«
[14:31] <Pepelka> [Web Upd8] Andrew: Schedule Tasks Based On Various Conditions With `When` http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/webupd8/~3/StoX5sush1I/schedule-tasks-based-on-various.html
[16:29] <lynxlynxlynx> http://www.riddlydiddly.com/
[16:29] <Pepelka> RiddlyDiddly
[16:29] <Pepelka> »RiddlyDiddly, Crazy Ned, Ned Flanders, TheSimpsons,Simpsons«
[16:29] <zdobersek> I cry because flash
[16:39] <upd> https://www.udemy.com/penetration-testing/#/ 95% off če se kdo želi kaj naučiti :)
[16:39] <Pepelka> The Complete Hacking Course: Go from Beginner to Advanced!
[16:39] <Pepelka> »Learn how to do ethical hacking, penetration testing, web testing, and wifi hacking using kali linux!«
[16:46] <lynxlynxlynx> sumljiv naslov
[16:47] <lynxlynxlynx> ni čudno, da morajo po tak popust
[16:48] <upd> da zarad sumljivega naslova so dal popust
[16:49] <matjaz> ta petek je Black Friday?
[16:50] <CrazyLemon> je.. black friday..cyber monday woohooož
[16:50] <CrazyLemon> !
[16:50] <matjaz> če bodo kakšni hudi SSD deali prosim linke :)
[16:50] <upd> matjaz, drug teden 27 je
[16:51] <matjaz> Cyber Monday je pa 23?
[16:51] <matjaz> al naslednji potem?
[16:52] <CrazyLemon> po black friday je cyber monday
[16:52] <matjaz> se mi je zdelo. kaj ma ta udemy pol že zdej Black Friday sale pa konec je jutri lol :D
[16:52] <CrazyLemon> black friday is on... friday
[16:52] <CrazyLemon> :D
[16:53] <upd> tako kot se lučke obeša že novembra
[16:53] <matjaz> :D
[16:53] <CrazyLemon> .rt
[16:53] <jabuk> Trenutno se predvaja: Kraftwerk - Heimcomputer. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XuKccVri37o
[16:53] <CrazyLemon> obup
[16:54] <upd> matjaz, https://udemy-images.udemy.com/hellobar_banner/1260x242/2936_37f8.jpg
[16:54] <upd> until 27.
[16:55] <matjaz> aaa
[16:55] <matjaz> pa vsak dan zvišujejo
[16:55] <matjaz> sneaky beaky
[16:57] <upd> ne vem če bodo zviševali, vrjetno bojo prilagajali povpraševanju
[16:58] <zdobersek> do u mean ....
[16:58] <zdobersek> REBECCA BLACK FRIDAY ?!?!
[16:58] <CrazyLemon> we do not
[17:01] <zdobersek> ooooh but you do
[17:01] <zdobersek> deep down in your heart you do
[17:01] <zdobersek> deep down you're thinking, "which seat can I take?"
[17:01] <CrazyLemon> my heart is not deep down
[17:02] <zdobersek> but it's in the nature of stone to sink
[17:03] <CrazyLemon> ooh
[17:03] <CrazyLemon> touché
[17:03] <CrazyLemon> you are learning lil padawan
[17:05] <zdobersek> howg
[17:06] <CrazyLemon> dawg?
[17:07] <zdobersek> no
[17:07] <zdobersek> y
[17:22] <CrazyLemon> https://github.com/docker/dockercraft
[17:22] <Pepelka> docker/dockercraft · GitHub
[17:22] <Pepelka> »dockercraft - Docker + Minecraft = Dockercraft«
[17:22] <CrazyLemon> evo dz0ny ..nekaj zate
[17:23] <msev-> Lepo ikono ma
[17:28] <CrazyLemon> https://plus.google.com/u/0/apps/activities
[17:28] <Pepelka> Sign in - Google Accounts
[17:28] <CrazyLemon> pol pa klik v search polje
[17:28] <CrazyLemon> in ouila
[17:28] <CrazyLemon> nov g+
[17:31] <msev-> A niso govoril da bojo g+ skenslal
[17:33] <CrazyLemon> naah
[17:39] <msev-> Men je g+ kul zarad skupnosti
[17:44] <zdobbie_> what community?
[17:46] <CrazyLemon> ubuntu community!
[17:49] <msev-> Te zadeve k se prdruzs ksni stvari k te zanima npr Ubuntu :) Arduino, etc
[17:49] <CrazyLemon> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X2KaRrSRqvI
[17:49] <Pepelka> The Brothers Grimsby Trailer #2 - Sacha Baron Cohen, Rebel Wilson - YouTube
[17:49] <Pepelka> »A new assignment forces a top spy to team up with his football hooligan brother. Director: Louis Leterrier Writers: Sacha Baron Cohen, Peter Baynham, Phil Jo...«
[17:59] <yang> hehe
[20:39] <CrazyLemon> https://www.flickr.com/photos/134675298@N08/23120202815/in/album-72157661376545961/
[20:39] <Pepelka> Flickr - Photo Sharing!
[20:39] <CrazyLemon> uff..čist huda mat modra
[20:39] <CrazyLemon> ane zdobbie_
[20:39] <zdobbie_> is k
[20:41] <CrazyLemon> dont be jelly man.. foil yellow is k.. this is awesome sauce
[20:45] <zdobbie_> black/yellow matt prosim
[21:35] <CrazyLemon> http://www.engadget.com/2015/11/18/zano-mini-drone-project-shuts-down/
[21:35] <Pepelka> Zano mini drone project shuts down following delays
[21:35] <Pepelka> »Europe's most successful Kickstarter project is closing shop after numerous problems.«
[21:41] <idioterna> ja
[21:41] <idioterna> jsm dobu ta zano "fuck you" mail
[21:41] <idioterna> "and thanks for 3M cash"
[21:41] <idioterna> hehe
[21:47] <yang> idioterna: od vojske b imogu pravga drona narocit
[21:50] <idioterna> zakaj?
[21:50] <idioterna> a k ce ni od vojske ni "pravi"?
[21:50] <yang> dobil bi ga vsaj
[21:51] <idioterna> ja sam zano nej bi bil open source
[21:51] <idioterna> sej zato sm ga backnu sploh
[21:52] <yang> vcasih jih spuscajo tukaj na poljih, dober stane okol 10 jurjev s kamero
[21:53] <yang> tak da snemas z njim v kvaliteti ki je primerna za TV
[21:53] <idioterna> a je open source?
[21:53] <yang> nevem
[21:54] <idioterna> k tacga k ni ze mam
[21:54] <yang> ampak poglej si naravni park strunjan, tisto je zel odobro posneto
[21:54] <idioterna> eh
[21:54] <yang> iz zraka
[21:54] <CrazyLemon> <yang>: tak da snemas z njim v kvaliteti ki je primerna za TV
[21:54] <CrazyLemon> 576p ?
[21:54] <CrazyLemon> :D
[21:54] <idioterna> PAL ja
[21:55] <idioterna> look PAL, i can't see NTSC
[21:55] <yang> mislim, da je standard sedaj visji kot PAL
[21:55] <CrazyLemon> ajde če bi napisal kvalitetni primerni za youtube bi predvideval vsaj 1080p 60fps
[21:55] <yang> pa ni samo resolucija
[21:55] <yang> ampak je fora v dobi kameri in lecah
[21:55] <yang> tisto je drago
[21:56] <idioterna> eh, men je ze hero 3 cist nice naredu
[21:56] <idioterna> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sZWGO1BGZIU
[21:56] <Pepelka> Beautiful Morning Skies over Janče - YouTube
[21:56] <yang> tudi naprava za 20 eur ti snema v fullhd samo ne v dobri kvaliteti
[21:57] <CrazyLemon> https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/17510489/Zaslonska%20slika%202015-11-18%2022%3A56%3A21.png <- tv quality
[21:57] <yang> tak dron posilja sliko na laptop dol iz zraka
[21:57] <idioterna> to pa js nocm
[21:57] <idioterna> prevec avtonomijo ubije
[21:58] <yang> ja okol 10 min lahko leti, vec ne
[21:58] <idioterna> js loh s temle ksne 4-6 ur ce je dobr vreme
[21:59] <CrazyLemon> ampak ni fpv :(
[21:59] <yang> ce je tak da nosi neko profi kamero verjetno ne more letet 5 ur :)
[21:59] <idioterna> fpv je se bl zajeban
[22:00] <idioterna> k ce mas loss of signal rabs al autopilot, kar je zoprn
[22:00] <idioterna> ce delas na takem terenu
[22:00] <idioterna> k je skos gor pa dol
[22:00] <CrazyLemon> http://www.dnevno.hr/planet-x/sirite-dalje-otkrivena-alarmantna-zavjera-cia-e-evo-zasto-je-tako-suncano-vrijeme-ovih-dana-858313
[22:00] <Pepelka> ŠIRITE DALJE! OTKRIVENA ALARMANTNA ZAVJERA CIA-e : Evo zašto je tako 'lijepo' vrijeme ovih dana!
[22:00] <Pepelka> »U tijeku je rat protiv čovječanstva!«
[22:00] <CrazyLemon> LOOOOOL
[22:01] <CrazyLemon> idioterna to je res ja.. sam se mi zdi da je sw ze tko dobr da ce zgubi signal se ponavadi vrne na 'home' točko
[22:07] <idioterna> ja, pr teh cheap kitajskih je tko
[22:07] <idioterna> pr unih ta dragih mors pa to posebi placat
[22:30] <idioterna> http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-34862437
[22:30] <Pepelka> Paris attacks: 'I will not give you the gift of hating you' - BBC News
[22:30] <Pepelka> »After losing his wife Helene in the attack on the Bataclan theatre in Paris, Antoine Leiris reads his tribute to her, and challenge to her killers, to BBC News in Paris.«
[22:31] <yang> pravjo da so ubili organizatorja napadov
[22:32] <yang> tko da zdej je tko kt JFK case
[22:32] <yang> nobenga ne morjo zaslisat
[22:33] <idioterna> ne vem ce to pravjo
[22:33] <idioterna> kokr js vidm pravjo da ne vejo kje je
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2015-11-18-#ubuntu-vn
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[02:15] <vubuntor911> Cho em hỏi là em vào người dùng postgres tạo các role để kết nối cơ sở dữ liệu nhưng khi em đăng nhập vào các role đấy thì nó lại báo lỗi ạ?
[02:33] <MrTuxHdb> vubuntor911: lỗi gì?
[02:40] <vubuntor911> postgres@huong:/home/huong$ psql -hlocalhost -UPhongNT QLKH Password for user PhongNT: psql: FATAL: password authentication failed for user "PhongNT" FATAL: password authentication failed for user "PhongNT"
[02:41] <vubuntor911> em bị thế này nhưng mà em không biết sửa tn ạ
[02:43] <MrTuxHdb> sai password
[02:44] <vubuntor911> em vừa tạo xong rồi đăng nhập luôn nên không thể sai được ạ
[02:45] <vubuntor911> nhưng password nó nửa bảo mật nửa ko là sao ạ
[02:45] <vubuntor911> có nghĩa là ví dụ mật khẩu của em là huong123 nhưng khi gõ thì nó hiện lên là ong123
[02:46] <MrTuxHdb> cái đó là do bộ gõ
[02:47] <vubuntor911> vậy thì mật khẩu em gõ đúng ạ
[02:50] <vubuntor911> là sao ạ
[02:51] <MrTuxHdb> tạo roles như nào?
[02:52] <vubuntor911> QLKH=# create user huongnt with password '1'; CREATE ROLE
[02:53] <vubuntor911> em tạo và không có lỗi gì
[02:53] <MrTuxHdb> thế grant permission cho nó chưa?
[02:54] <vubuntor911> QLKH=# grant select on GiangVien to huongnt QLKH-# ; GRANT
[02:54] <vubuntor911> em cũng làm rồi nhưng ko đc
[02:55] <MrTuxHdb> psql -h myhost -d mydb -U myuser
[02:55] <MrTuxHdb> thêm cả -d vào coi nào
[02:57] <vubuntor911> postgres@huong:/home/huong$ psql -hlocalhost -dQLKH -PhongNT \pset: unknown option: hongNT psql: could not set printing parameter "hongNT" postgres@huong:/home/huong$
[02:59] <MrTuxHdb> vubuntor911: nó phân biệt in hoa in thường nhá
[02:59] <MrTuxHdb> mà -U chứ -P đâu?
[03:00] <vubuntor911> postgres@huong:/home/huong$ psql -hlocalhost -dQLKH -UPhongNT Password for user PhongNT: psql: FATAL: password authentication failed for user "PhongNT" FATAL: password authentication failed for user "PhongNT" postgres@huong:/home/huong$
[03:01] <MrTuxHdb> đã nói rồi
[03:01] <MrTuxHdb> kiểm tra lại cái user
[03:01] <MrTuxHdb> http://www.cyberciti.biz/faq/howto-add-postgresql-user-account/
[03:02] <SuperLuserv3> [ PostgreSQL add or create a user account and grant permission for database ] - www.cyberciti.biz
[03:04] <vubuntor911> được rồi a ạ. Em cảm ơn ạ!!! :)
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2015-11-18-#ubuntustudio-devel
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[20:21] <OvenWerks> The new iso is 61% different than the last ISO I have.
[20:23] <OvenWerks> ETA 140 min...
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2015-11-18-#ubuntu-us-fl
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[20:13] <balloons> everyone excited for tomorrow?
[20:53] <ahoneybun> ubucon is on thur or fri?
[21:28] <Garheade> ahoneybun_: Thursday | http://loco.ubuntu.com/events/ubuntu-us-florida/3208-ubucon-at-fossetcon/
[22:26] <tedg> Is there anyone at the hotel tonight?
[22:26] <tedg> (besides me) ;-)
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2015-11-18-#juju-dev
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[00:13] <mup> Bug #1517258 opened: juju 1.24.7 precise: container failed to start and was destroyed <oil> <juju-core:New> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1517258>
[00:17] <anastasiamac> waigani: tyvm for review \o/
[00:17] <anastasiamac> waigani: i'll prefix the PR with WIP and will add api/apiserver logic to it :D
[00:37] <alexisb> waigani, did you use your new tool for the review?
[00:40] <anastasiamac> alexisb: waigani: new tool?
[00:58] <wwitzel3> wallyworld: ping
[00:59] <wallyworld> hey
[00:59] <wwitzel3> hey, hangout?
[00:59] <wallyworld> ok
[00:59] <wwitzel3> wallyworld: https://plus.google.com/hangouts/_/canonical.com/moonstone?authuser=1
[01:37] <mgz> soooo... how do people actually feel about table tests these days?
[01:38] <mgz> I tried it as more-idiomatic go thing, but I might just be out of date
[01:42] <davecheney> mgz: i think table driven tests are ace
[01:44] <mgz> davecheney: do you normally have two different structs for error cases and non-error cases?
[01:44] <davecheney> depends
[01:45] <davecheney> i normally add an err error field to the test table
[01:45] <davecheney> and then you just test that the actual error and the erro int he test table is the same
[01:45] <davecheney> for most cases it lets me combine success and fail cases
[01:48] <mgz> hm, issue is I need ErrorMatches
[01:48] <mgz> as I'm testing an error that includes at the bottom level a url.Parse error string I don't want to assert on the specifics of
[01:48] <davecheney> do you care what error it is
[01:48] <davecheney> or just the presence of an error
[01:48] <mgz> nope.
[01:49] <davecheney> got, err :=f ()
[01:49] <davecheney> if t.err != err { // oops }
[01:49] <davecheney> should do
[01:49] <mgz> well, I have two error paths, so I care a bot
[01:49] <mgz> *bit
[01:51] <mgz> davecheney: exact code in cinder_test.go http://reviews.vapour.ws/r/3170/
[01:55] <davecheney> mgz: lgtm
[01:55] <davecheney> that's how id do it with gocheck
[02:02] <davecheney> who want's to look at the weirdest data race report
[02:02] <davecheney> http://paste.ubuntu.com/13322899/
[02:03] <davecheney> func (fakeAssignCaller) BestFacadeVersion(facade string) int { return 1
[02:03] <davecheney> }
[02:04] <natefinch> davecheney: derp?
[02:05] <davecheney> sure, most things are human error
[02:05] <davecheney> but how can there be a data race on a function that never touches any data ?
[02:06] <natefinch> it even leaves out the receiver variable...
[02:07] <davecheney> why does it need the receiver, it alwasy returns 1
[02:07] <perrito666> davecheney: gocheck?
[02:07] <davecheney> nope
[02:10] <perrito666> ok, I am curious now
[02:10] <davecheney> http://reviews.vapour.ws/r/3174/
[02:10] <natefinch> some sort of pointer auto-dereference thing?
[02:10] <davecheney> have a look
[02:11] <davecheney> natefinch: if I have a *T and I need to call a method that takes a T, how does the compiler do that ?
[02:12] <perrito666> interesting
[02:12] <natefinch> davecheney: it dereferences the pointer, which is what I was thinking...
[02:12] <davecheney> so why does that lead to a data race ?
[02:13] <davecheney> Read by goroutine 12:
[02:13] <davecheney> github.com/juju/juju/api/unitassigner.(*fakeWatchCaller).BestFacadeVersion()
[02:13] <davecheney> <autogenerated>:18 +0xa9
[02:13] <davecheney> Previous write by goroutine 11:
[02:13] <davecheney> sync/atomic.CompareAndSwapInt32()
[02:13] <davecheney> /home/dfc/go1.4/src/runtime/race_amd64.s:281 +0xc
[02:13] <davecheney> sync.(*Mutex).Lock()
[02:13] <davecheney> i'm going to have to blog this one
[02:13] <natefinch> it's copying the value
[02:14] <natefinch> even though we're not even using the value
[02:15] <natefinch> and so that counts as being "read", and in other other goroutine it's changing that value... so what gets copied depends on the order in which those two things happen.... even though we don't care.
[02:15] <perrito666> I would have guessed that it was compiled as a function rather than a method when the receiver is not assigned
[02:17] <natefinch> I definitely would have hoped that the compiler would figure out not to copy the value and therefore not trigger the race detector... however, it seems like it must not be that smart.... or the race detector's not that smart
[02:18] <natefinch> The interesting thing then is, it seems like you should _always_ use *T for methods that don't need the receiver, to avoid exactly this problem.
[02:18] <perrito666> natefinch: methods that dont need a receiver are called functions :p
[02:19] <natefinch> perrito666: except it has to be a method to satisfy an interface
[02:19] <davecheney> natefinch: bingo
[02:22] <davecheney> natefinch: an observation in gopl was if you use pointer receivers for some methods, you shuld probably use them for all methods
[02:22] <davecheney> and vice versa
[02:24] <natefinch> davecheney: I've read that, and I wasn't sure if I agreed... sometimes value receivers are nice to both point out that the value isn't being modified, as well as enforce that fact. Sort of immutability-lite ... but certainly with gotchas like this, it certainly is problematic.
[02:34] <davecheney> natefinch: yeah, i'm still undecided
[02:34] <davecheney> http://play.golang.org/p/DTDzYu4b3C
[02:34] <davecheney> here is a very small repro that shows the problem
[02:34] <davecheney> no mutex
[02:35] <davecheney> no sync atomic
[02:38] <wallyworld> wwitzel3: where are the logs etc? i can't see any in /var/log/juju
[02:56] <natefinch> davecheney: nice simple repro. Do you know if it's the compiler's fault or the race detector's?
[03:10] <natefinch> fantasitc... when CI tests fail, they don't bring down all the machines they created :/
[03:13] <natefinch> someday I'll get a clean run of the CI tests and maybe actually repo this bug
[03:24] <mgz> natefinch: this is an issue with the way this fails
[03:24] <mgz> natefinch: you call `juju destroy-environment` on an env you've just deployed machines for, but have the machines have not yet come up, juju leaks the machines
[03:24] <natefinch> mgz: even with --force?
[03:25] <natefinch> I guess --force shouldn't matter.... but still... ouch, damn.
[03:28] <natefinch> mgz: I think this is a pass? https://pastebin.canonical.com/144311/
[03:29] <natefinch> would be nice if it said "PASS" or something at the end, rather than making me guess :/
[03:30] <mgz> natefinch: yeah, looks okay, `echo $?`
[03:31] <natefinch> 0
[03:31] <mgz> that's a pass.
[03:31] <natefinch> I didn't change anything past menn0's fix
[03:32] <natefinch> granted, it's on EC2 not joyent, but...
[03:33] * natefinch shrugs
[03:33] <natefinch> works on my machine :/
[03:36] <mgz> natefinch: you can use the joyent creds from lp:cloud-city
[03:36] <natefinch> mgz: k, thanks
[03:36] <menn0> natefinch, mgz: I found it work with the local provider and EC2 as well
[03:37] <menn0> so it's beginning to look joyent specific which is weird
[03:37] <natefinch> menn0: probably a timing issue
[03:37] <natefinch> probably joyent is faster or slower in some specific part of the script
[03:37] <menn0> natefinch: agreed, that's likely
[03:37] <mgz> I suspect you just aren't seeing a race, :12 at last deploy, :19 before status is first called in your log
[03:38] <mgz> probably long enough for EC2 to allocate instance ids for both machines
[03:38] <natefinch> yep
[03:39] <mgz> :09 at deploy on CI to :12 before first status
[03:39] <natefinch> mgz: the default-joyent creds in the environments.yaml in cloud-city?
[03:39] <natefinch> s/creds/environment
[03:40] <mgz> natefinch: yup
[03:40] <natefinch> mgz: btw, I hope you're not actually in the UK at this hour
[03:40] <mgz> or parallel-joyent and use the exact stream that the test did
[03:40] <mgz> natefinch: nah, NY
[03:41] <natefinch> mgz: ahh, good. Whatcha doing on this side of the pond?
[03:42] <mgz> sprint, talking about QA across all of CDO products
[03:42] <natefinch> neat
[03:46] <mgz> waigani_: updated r/3170 - thoughts welcome
[03:48] <natefinch> menn0: you said you hacked the script to do an upload tools, care to show me where I'd do that?
[03:51] <natefinch> or mgz would you know how I could best do that? ^
[03:51] <mgz> natefinch: you can just append --upload-tools
[03:52] <mgz> oh wait, jes is still special?
[03:53] <mgz> --upload-tools doesn't work with jes, or at least didn't at the time the test was written
[03:56] <natefinch> wait, what, really?
[03:57] <natefinch> ffs
[03:57] <natefinch> how the hell do you test if you can't upload tools?
[04:03] <menn0> mgz: i'm not aware of a limitation with upload-tools and jes
[04:03] <menn0> but with joyent there is a routing problem
[04:03] <menn0> new instances often can't get to the state server's internal IP address
[04:04] <menn0> so they can't download the tools from the state server
[04:06] <menn0> I ran into that with my testing
[04:07] <menn0> wallyworld: where do instances get tools from during provisioning? always the state server or maybe directly from streams?
[04:09] <waigani_> mgz: +1 to how you've got the tests now. LGTM
[04:15] <mgz> menn0: yeah, we have specialy hackery in CI to work around the fact the provider can't clean up networks
[04:16] <mgz> menn0: see http://juju-ci.vapour.ws/job/joyent-deploy-jes-trusty-amd64/configure
[04:16] <mgz> $RELEASE_TOOLS/joyent-curl.bash /cpcjoyentsupport/fwrules | sed -e 's/[\[\{]/\n\0/g;' | grep $JOB_NAME | sed -e 's/.*"id":"\([^"]*\)".*/\1/' | xargs -I{} $RELEASE_TOOLS/joyent-curl.bash /cpcjoyentsupport/fwrules/{} -X DELETE || true
[04:16] <mgz> waigani_: thanks
[04:19] <mgz> menn0: I'm failing to remember why --upload-tools didn't work, just remember I disabled it on abentley's say-so
[04:21] <mgz> natefinch: there's a one-line change you can make in utility.py that will enable --upload-tools again
[04:22] <mgz> well, and a dedent.
[04:23] <mup> Bug #1497316 changed: TestUniterSteadyStateUpgrade permission problem <ci> <intermittent-failure> <windows> <juju-core:Expired> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1497316>
[04:30] <menn0> mgz: what about changing the call to boot_context() in assess_jes_deploy.py
[04:30] <menn0> it takes an uploadTools arg
[04:30] <menn0> (hardcoded to false)
[04:31] <mgz> ah, pants, yeah, that too
[04:32] <mup> Bug #1497316 opened: TestUniterSteadyStateUpgrade permission problem <ci> <intermittent-failure> <windows> <juju-core:Expired> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1497316>
[04:38] <natefinch> mgz: seems easy enough. I think I have it, with the additional change to make False args.upload_tools in boot_context
[04:38] <mup> Bug #1497316 changed: TestUniterSteadyStateUpgrade permission problem <ci> <intermittent-failure> <windows> <juju-core:Expired> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1497316>
[04:38] <natefinch> er in the call to boot_context
[04:38] * natefinch tries it out
[04:38] <mgz> okay, http://reviews.vapour.ws/r/3172/ should be good to go
[04:41] <mup> Bug #1497316 opened: TestUniterSteadyStateUpgrade permission problem <ci> <intermittent-failure> <windows> <juju-core:Expired> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1497316>
[04:47] <mup> Bug #1497316 changed: TestUniterSteadyStateUpgrade permission problem <ci> <intermittent-failure> <windows> <juju-core:Expired> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1497316>
[04:52] <natefinch> hmm yeah, not working... getting no tools found when doing create-environment.
[04:55] <wallyworld> menn0: sorry, was out at 1:1. during provisioning we go to state server
[04:55] <wallyworld> menn0: cloud init is configured to try all the recorded api host addresses to till connections
[04:56] <menn0> wallyworld: ok thanks
[04:56] <menn0> mgz, natefinch: so I must have been running into joyent firewall issues then. I frequently saw new instances that couldn't connect to the state server to get tools.
[04:57] <menn0> natefinch: you might want to make sure you remove the rules as per the CI job
[04:58] <natefinch> menn0: this is running the CI test...
[04:58] <menn0> natefinch: yes, but the CI job that runs assess_jes_deploy.py does some stuff before and after it runs too
[04:58] <natefinch> ahh
[04:58] <menn0> natefinch: see the job's config in jenkins
[04:59] <menn0> natefinch: or the long command mgz mentioned earlier
[04:59] <menn0> natefinch: that's from the CI job
[05:01] <natefinch> menn0: gross
[05:01] <menn0> natefinch: it's not exactly beautfiul no
[05:02] <wwitzel3> wallyworld: if you juju ssh 0 , you'll see all the logs
[05:03] <wallyworld> oh, that's not the bootstrap machine, doh
[05:04] <wwitzel3> wallyworld: nope, that is the client machine, in the home directory there is the 1.26-alpah1 client too
[05:04] <wwitzel3> wallyworld: the client on the path is 1.22
[05:04] <wallyworld> ok
[05:07] <mgz> bug 1451104 could just be fixed in the joyent provider, then CI hackery goes away
[05:07] <mup> Bug #1451104: Joyent machines can fail to fetch tools <ci> <deploy> <joyent-provider> <reliability> <juju-core:Triaged> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1451104>
[05:08] <mgz> bug 1485781 is more specific
[05:08] <mup> Bug #1485781: Juju is unreliable on Joyent <joyent-provider> <reliability> <repeatability> <juju-core:Triaged> <juju-core 1.25:Triaged> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1485781>
[05:08] <natefinch> le sigh
[05:09] <davecheney> i read that as "joyent is unreliable on joyent"
[05:10] <davecheney> it had a nice ring to it
[05:11] <natefinch> no, it's "CI only really works in CI"
[05:12] <natefinch> there's just like 100 implicit dependencies that need to be perfectly correct to get things to run
[05:12] <davecheney> works on my cloud(tm)
[05:19] <wallyworld> wwitzel3: the data being logged does not match what is on streams.canonical.com
[05:20] <wallyworld> maybe they have squid or something serving stale data
[05:24] <wwitzel3> wallyworld: but that shouldn't prevent upload-tools working?
[05:24] <wallyworld> true, i was looking to see why a normal upgrade fials
[05:25] <natefinch> mgz: what's $JOB_NAME?
[05:27] <mgz> natefinch: what you're passing as forth arg to assess_jes.py
[05:27] <mgz> +u
[05:31] <natefinch> mgz: so the copied environment name?
[05:32] <mgz> well, ideally something unique, the idea is jobs don't stomp on each other if running at the same time
[05:33] <wallyworld> wwitzel3: aha
[05:33] <wallyworld> the tools metadata is fucked
[05:33] <wallyworld> incorrectly generated
[05:33] <wallyworld> this has happened before :-(
[05:34] <wwitzel3> wallyworld: can we use juju-metadata to generate new data?
[05:35] <wallyworld> no, it needs to be signed
[05:35] <wallyworld> it's a CPC issue
[05:35] <wwitzel3> wallyworld: and this is what is impacting even with upload-tools?
[05:36] <wallyworld> not sure, that's next on the list to look at
[05:36] <wallyworld> this is a serious, serious issue
[05:36] <wwitzel3> wallyworld: ah, ok
[05:37] <mgz> wallyworld: which streams?
[05:37] <wallyworld> devel, maybe others, haven't checked
[05:37] <natefinch> still no tools found...
[05:37] <natefinch> whelp. It's after midnight and well past bed time. I guess I won't be fixing this today.
[05:39] <wallyworld> mgz: all sreams seem affected
[05:47] <mup> Bug #1482155 changed: lxc restriction on multiple state servers <ha> <lxc> <state-server> <juju-core:Invalid> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1482155>
[05:50] <mup> Bug #1482155 opened: lxc restriction on multiple state servers <ha> <lxc> <state-server> <juju-core:Invalid> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1482155>
[05:53] <mup> Bug #1482155 changed: lxc restriction on multiple state servers <ha> <lxc> <state-server> <juju-core:Invalid> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1482155>
[06:01] <mgz> wallyworld: so... don't think we actually need cpc, probably from a lp:juju-release-tools change, so we're just sitting on their hardware
[06:01] <wallyworld> ok, so we can maybe fix?
[06:02] <wallyworld> or rollback
[06:02] <mgz> yeah, but it's also night in canada
[06:04] <wallyworld> SOP \o/
[06:04] <wallyworld> SPOF
[07:35] <mup> Bug #1517344 opened: state: initially assigned units don't get storage attachments <juju-core:Triaged> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1517344>
[08:57] <menn0> everything is awesome
[08:57] <menn0> everything is awesome when you're part of a team
[08:58] <dimitern> menn0, :) are you talking about the blocker bug?
[08:58] <menn0> not specifically
[08:58] <menn0> just slightly delirious
[08:58] <menn0> and that song is stuck in my head
[08:59] <dimitern> menn0, you should get some rest then ;)
[09:00] <menn0> dimitern: nah... perfect time to write some more code
[09:00] <menn0> ;-)
[09:00] <dimitern> menn0, I know the feeling
[09:13] <menn0> fwereade: review please: http://reviews.vapour.ws/r/3178/
[09:14] <fwereade> menn0, ack
[09:14] <fwereade> menn0, and now that's stuck in my head too
[09:14] <menn0> you're welcome
[09:14] <menn0> ;-)
[09:32] <dimitern> voidspace, dooferlad, frobware, guys, please have a look at http://reviews.vapour.ws/r/3167/ when you can
[09:36] <voidspace> dimitern: looking
[09:36] <voidspace> dimitern: good to read this code as I don't (yet) the concepts fully
[09:39] <dimitern> voidspace, cheers - I'm glad to clarify things where needed
[09:50] <voidspace> dimitern: straightforward so far
[09:56] <frobware> dimitern, added some comments; also (for standup) why do we replace " " in space names?
[09:58] <dimitern> frobware, thanks! spaces are not valid in constraints
[10:00] <frobware> dimitern, so why do we collapse them? if you pass a name with " " isn't that just invalid?
[10:01] <voidspace> maas space names can have spaces
[10:01] <voidspace> we'll have to translate between juju space names and maas names
[10:01] <dimitern> but not juju space names
[10:02] <dimitern> fwereade, jam, standup?
[10:09] <mup> Bug #1517391 opened: MachineStorageIdsWatcher severely undertested <tech-debt> <juju-core:Triaged> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1517391>
[10:30] <mattyw> anastasiamac, are you still awake?
[10:30] <mattyw> anastasiamac, I guess you shouldn't be really
[11:13] <anastasiamac> mattyw: hi o/
[11:14] <mattyw> anastasiamac, hey hey. I see http://reviews.vapour.ws/r/3171/ is marked WIP - do you still want reviews or should I leave it for now?
[11:14] <anastasiamac> mattyw: tyvm for asking - plz leave it for now :D
[11:15] <mattyw> anastasiamac, will do
[11:15] <anastasiamac> mattyw: \o/
[11:16] <mattyw> anastasiamac, feel free to ping me or anyone else from emerald squad with reviews for x-model relations
[11:17] <anastasiamac> mattyw: gr8 idea - will do :)
[12:12] <mup> Bug #1517428 opened: state depends on multiwatcher and/or params <tech-debt> <juju-core:Triaged> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1517428>
[12:18] <voidspace> dimitern: ping
[12:18] <dimitern> voidspace, pong
[12:18] <voidspace> dimitern: your PR - parseDelimitedValues
[12:18] <voidspace> dimitern: where does rawValues come from?
[12:19] <voidspace> dimitern: is that from the original command line invocation?
[12:19] <voidspace> dimitern: I wonder why we're doing the " " stripping inside the provider
[12:19] <voidspace> dimitern: we should have already converted from juju space names to maas space names by here
[12:19] <voidspace> dimitern: so they *might* have valid spaces in them
[12:19] <dimitern> voidspace, the raw values come from constraints
[12:20] <voidspace> dimitern: if they're space names then they need converting to maas names
[12:20] <voidspace> dimitern: and the provider can't do that as it requires access to state
[12:20] <voidspace> dimitern: and constraints will use juju names
[12:20] <dimitern> voidspace, I guess I overengineered it a bit - I'll drop the space stripping and that will simplify it - there's no way we get invalid constraints that far into the provisioning process
[12:20] <voidspace> dimitern: ok
[12:21] <voidspace> dimitern: maas space names can have spaces in them - so stripping them is wrong
[12:21] <voidspace> dimitern: I'll add an issue
[12:21] <dimitern> voidspace, the conversion needs to happen, but not having it now won't block us from possibly doing the demo
[12:22] <voidspace> dimitern: but the conversion needs to happen in a different place, not in the provider code
[12:22] <dimitern> voidspace, yeah, that's true
[12:22] <voidspace> dimitern: the provider code should only be dealing with MAAS names (or ids)
[12:22] <dimitern> voidspace, I think it will happen in the provisioner
[12:23] <voidspace> cool
[12:31] <voidspace> dimitern: frobware: dooferlad: just to mention that I'm off tomorrow, it's in the calendar.
[12:31] <dimitern> voidspace, have a good one ;)
[12:32] <voidspace> dimitern: I'm spending the day with my mum, visiting stratford
[12:32] <voidspace> should be good
[12:38] <dimitern> after some minor but required CI surgery on the parallel streams job, I'm happy to report we now have a blessed master!!
[12:39] <dimitern> don't rush all at once to land your stuff :P
[12:51] <dimitern> voidspace, I've re-queued your PR #3692 for merging as well as all 3 of mine
[12:51] <mup> Bug #1516144 changed: Cannot deploy charms in jes envs <blocker> <charms> <ci> <regression> <juju-core:Fix Released by menno.smits> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1516144>
[12:52] <dimitern> hopefully no conflicts will emerge
[13:02] <mattyw> dimitern, ping?
[13:04] <dimitern> mattyw, pong
[13:04] <mattyw> dimitern, you know maas, are you able to respond to this guy? https://github.com/juju/juju/issues/3627
[13:05] <dimitern> mattyw, I have no idea why that happens unfortunately :/
[13:27] <frobware> voidspace, ack
[13:28] <frobware> dimitern, you left mine out... sniff. :)
[13:30] <mup> Bug #1517474 opened: provider/ec2: don't artificially limit EBS volumes to xvdf-xvdp <juju-core:Triaged> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1517474>
[13:33] <jam> fwereade: ping for planning meeting?
[13:39] <dimitern> frobware, sorry, should've checked :/
[13:40] <dimitern> frobware, voidspace, I've updated http://reviews.vapour.ws/r/3167/ - can you have another look and approve it if it looks ok?
[13:40] <frobware> dimitern, taking a look
[13:40] <frobware> dimitern, glad we drooped the " " stripping
[13:42] <dimitern> frobware, yeah, now that I think about it, it was like this because the --networks argument to deploy (where these came from in an earlier PoC) was not well validated and/or rushed to a demo-able state
[13:42] <mgz> dimitern: I don't suppose you heard anything from wallyworld on the status of upgrade issue? he was concerned our streams were screwed, but I don't see any mailling list updates from him.
[13:45] <dimitern> mgz, which upgrade issue is that?
[13:48] <dimitern> frobware, once our PRs land, it's time to rebase maas-spaces onto master
[13:49] <frobware> dimitern, +1
[13:50] <dimitern> mgz, was that about upgrade 1.20.x->1.24.4 not working unless with --version 1.24.4 ?
[13:55] <mgz> I think it was several layers of investigation into rt #85463
[13:55] <mup> Bug #85463: [apport] evolution-exchange-storage crashed with SIGSEGV in e2k_restriction_unref() <evolution-exchange (Ubuntu):Invalid by desktop-bugs> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/85463>
[13:55] <mgz> not that mup
[13:56] <mattyw> katco, woohoow!
[13:57] <mattyw> katco, I've been denying myself the lxd provider till it lands in master
[14:22] <voidspace> dimitern: LGTM
[14:22] <dimitern> voidspace, cheers!
[15:01] <mup> Bug #1517499 opened: i/o timeout on bundle deployment <juju-core:New> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1517499>
[15:13] <natefinch> axw: thanks for fixing that bug with unit assignment. Can't believe I forgot to remove the docs after successful assignment. I'm surprised that didn't show up more often in tests.
[15:28] <frobware> cherylj, having trouble with the bond0 interface and juju-br0 1516891. Will concentrate on landing 1512371 first
[15:29] <cherylj> frobware: okay, thanks for the update!
[15:29] <frobware> cherylj, this may be at the root of some problems - https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ifupdown/+bug/1337873
[15:29] <mup> Bug #1337873: Precise, Trusty, Utopic - ifupdown initialization problems caused by race condition <cts> <patch> <ifupdown (Ubuntu):Fix Released by dgadomski> <ifupdown
[15:29] <mup> (Ubuntu Precise):Confirmed> <ifupdown (Ubuntu Trusty):Confirmed> <ifupdown (Ubuntu Vivid):Confirmed> <ifupdown (Debian):New> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1337873>
[15:38] <cherylj> frobware: interesting. It's an old bug, but wasn't addressed until last month?
[15:40] <frobware> cherylj, I think there's a bit of work to address the bonding bug (for juju-br0)
[15:41] <cherylj> frobware: do you know if it's just a problem with MAAS 1.9?
[15:42] <frobware> cherylj, I don't.
[15:43] <cherylj> just re-read the bug, it looks like the support for bonding is introduced in 1.9
[15:44] <cherylj> frobware: is there a workaround where users could manually edit /e/n/i?
[15:44] <frobware> cherylj, let me try. though I am getting distracted... :)
[15:45] <cherylj> frobware: thanks :) I'd feel more comfortable moving it to 1.25.2 if we could give people a manual workaround
[15:58] <natefinch> ericsnow: you around?
[15:58] <ericsnow> natefinch: briefly
[15:59] <frobware> cherylj, synthesizing what juju boostrap would do to /e/n/i and rebooting yields no working interfaces. \o/ ... :(
[15:59] <frobware> cherylj, so, not sure there's even a quick workaround right now.
[15:59] <cherylj> frobware: yikes!!
[15:59] <natefinch> ericsnow: I don't think your fix for the OOM error is actually changing the core behavior... you're running the waits in goroutines, but you're starting all the executables in what is effectively a tight loop... since Cmd.Start() just fires off a goroutine
[16:01] <natefinch> ericsnow: er, maybe not a goroutine per se... but we'll still be starting processes really fast and could easily have 100 fire off in a second
[16:02] <ericsnow> natefinch: fork doesn't take long
[16:02] <ericsnow> natefinch: fork+exec I mean
[16:03] <ericsnow> natefinch: by the time Start completes it should already be exec'ing
[16:06] <natefinch> ericsnow: I guess I don't know when linux stops "counting" the memory of the fork against juju... or when it decides the fork doesn't really need that much. You're going to have 100 ssh processes all running at the same time if there are 100 machines to run on.
[16:06] <ericsnow> natefinch: once it execs
[16:07] <katco> cherylj: got a sec?
[16:07] <cherylj> katco: sure, what's up?
[16:07] <natefinch> ericsnow: so, once Cmd.Start returns, we're no longer being hurt by the memory the fork uses?
[16:07] <katco> cherylj: can you hop in https://plus.google.com/hangouts/_/canonical.com/moonstone?authuser=1
[16:08] <ericsnow> natefinch: correct
[16:09] <natefinch> ericsnow: interesting. ok, thanks.
[16:09] <ericsnow> natefinch: np
[16:10] <wwitzel3> mgz: what do you mean isolate? I know if I bootstrap with 1.22.8, set the agent-stream to devel, and issue update-juju --version 1.26-alpha1 I get: no matching tools available
[16:10] <wwitzel3> s/update/upgrade
[16:13] <mgz> wwitzel3: I mean set agent-metadata-url to a specific different location
[16:14] <wwitzel3> mgz: sure, what location?
[16:14] <ericsnow> natefinch: FWIW, I don't think the 100 ssh procs will be a big problem (~50k each)
[16:14] <mgz> abentley: do you have bandwidth to work with wwitzel3 to look at the upgrade from 1.22.8 to devel streams?
[16:14] <natefinch> ericsnow: only a problem due to the memory copying thing from fork
[16:15] <ericsnow> natefinch: yep
[16:16] <abentley> mgz, wwitzel3: Yes, I can help out. I was just dealing with a similar issue 1.20.x
[16:16] <abentley> wwitzel3: hangout?
[16:17] <wwitzel3> abentley: https://plus.google.com/hangouts/_/canonical.com/moonstone?authuser=1
[16:25] <mup> Bug #1517535 opened: Agent stuck in "allocating" state <juju-core:New> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1517535>
[16:26] <natefinch> katco: in case you missed it, I talked with ericsnow and he convinced me that his code actually is doing the right thing... it was just my lack of knowledge of how linux's memory handling works during fork & exec.
[16:31] <mup> Bug #1517535 changed: Agent stuck in "allocating" state <juju-core:New> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1517535>
[16:34] <mup> Bug #1517535 opened: Agent stuck in "allocating" state <juju-core:New> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1517535>
[16:34] <katco> natefinch: cool, looking forward to seeing it land
[16:44] <katco> mattyw: jujubot merged commit de417eb into master 20 seconds ago. it's in master now :) alpha2!
[16:44] <katco> natefinch: ericsnow: wwitzel3: lxd provider is now in master. good job team :D
[16:45] <mattyw> katco, natefinch ericsnow wwitzel3 good work folks - just try to stop me using the lxd provider now!
[16:45] <ericsnow> katco: \o/
[16:53] <mgz> cherylj: bug 1512399 fix landed on 1.25
[16:53] <mup> Bug #1512399: ERROR environment destruction failed: destroying storage: listing volumes: Get https://x.x.x.x:8776/v2/<UUID>/volumes/detail: local error: record overflow <amulet> <bug-squad> <openstack> <sts> <uosci> <Go OpenStack Exchange:Fix Released by gz> <juju-core:In Progress by gz> <juju-core
[16:53] <mup> 1.25:In Progress by gz> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1512399>
[16:53] <cherylj> yay! thanks, mgz!
[17:10] <wwitzel3> abentley: https://bugs.launchpad.net/juju-core/+bug/1507867/comments/23 figured out the reproduction steps
[17:10] <mup> Bug #1507867: juju upgrade failures <canonical-bootstack> <upgrade-juju> <juju-core:In Progress by wwitzel3> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1507867>
[17:11] <wwitzel3> abentley: seems code related, but thought you might be interested
[17:11] <abentley> wwitzel3: Yes, using --upload-tools breaks future upgrades. That is a known bug. sinzui?
[17:12] <wwitzel3> abentley: yeah, but I thought setting the tools-url manually worked around it?
[17:13] <abentley> wwitzel3: Yes, I thought so, too. Interesting.
[17:15] <abentley> wwitzel3: Can I see the log?
[17:16] <abentley> wwitzel3: Can you upgrade to a non-devel version like 1.25.0?
[17:17] <wwitzel3> abentley: nope
[17:17] <wwitzel3> abentley: the log doesn't have much in it, even at debug
[17:19] <abentley> wwitzel3: Sometimes the "reading tools with major.minor version 1.22" line is informative.
[17:19] <wwitzel3> abentley: that line does not exist in the log
[17:19] <abentley> wwitzel3: for an upgrade, the machine-0 log may also be useful, but you have to read it very damn closely.
[17:19] <wwitzel3> abentley: I dont see any streams activity, like it isn't trying at all
[17:20] <mgz> is the lxd-provider documented anywhere at present?
[17:22] <katco> mgz: in the release notes; no documentation as of yet
[17:22] <mgz> katco: ta
[17:25] <alexisb> the idea of having both bundle deploy support and a lxd provider on a devel ppa juju makes me giddy :)
[17:26] <katco> alexisb: i know right? those 2 features together = love
[17:29] <abentley> wwitzel3: Here is the machine-0 log of a successful upgrade from 1.22 to master, if it is useful: http://data.vapour.ws/juju-ci/products/version-3327/aws-upgrade-22-trusty-amd64/build-376/machine-0.log.gz
[17:42] <natefinch> ericsnow: I see you're still posting on the juu-run bug. Do you think you'll have time to get that landed today? I was going to try to do the work to get it landed, but if you're doing it, I can move on to something else.
[17:43] <ericsnow> natefinch: I'm trying but quickly running out of time
[17:43] <ericsnow> natefinch: I'll let you know and hand it off if needed
[17:43] <stokachu> kadams54: got a PR for you for theblues pacakge
[17:44] <natefinch> ericsnow: ok. yeah, I had assumed you weren't going to have any time today, so was prepared to do it. Let me know when you know.
[17:44] <ericsnow> natefinch: k
[17:44] <ericsnow> natefinch: will be soon
[17:45] <stokachu> 21
[17:48] <kadams54> stokachu: Taking a look
[18:11] <natefinch> fwereade: btw, really like your point about passing an abort channel rather than a timeout value. way more flexible, and still trivial to use as a timeout.
[18:11] <fwereade> natefinch, cool, thanks :)
[18:23] <wwitzel3> abentley: was that after using upload tools?
[18:34] <abentley> wwitzel3: no, that was our standard test. http://reports.vapour.ws/releases/3327/job/aws-upgrade-22-trusty-amd64/attempt/376
[18:35] <wwitzel3> abentley: yeah, the standard test works for me as well
[18:51] <natefinch> katco: I'm going to go back to bug #1491688 for now, since ericsnow seems to still be working on his bug
[18:51] <mup> Bug #1491688: all-machine logging stopped, x509: certificate signed by unknown authority <bug-squad> <landscape> <logging> <rsyslog> <sts> <juju-core:Triaged> <juju-core 1.25:Triaged> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1491688>
[18:51] <katco> natefinch: oh, ok. sorry, didn't think ericsnow would be around today
[18:52] <natefinch> katco: me either :)
[18:52] <ericsnow> katco: leaving in a few minutes
[18:53] <katco> ericsnow: ok. do you think you'll get this in by EOD?
[18:53] <ericsnow> katco: was going to hand it off to natefinch soon
[18:54] <katco> ericsnow: natefinch: is it possible for you two to pair for the remaining time?
[18:54] <ericsnow> katco: made the mistake of reading fwereade's review comments :)
[18:54] <katco> natefinch: i don't want you to get whiplash
[18:56] <natefinch> katco: I gotta pick up my daughter from preschool now, unfortunately
[18:57] <katco> natefinch: ok
[18:57] <katco> ericsnow: please send nate an email with all the info he needs for the hand-off. we need this landed by tonight
[18:57] <natefinch> katco: I'm very familiar with eric's changes and william's comments, though, so I don't think there will be many rpoblems
[18:57] <katco> natefinch: ok
[18:57] <ericsnow> natefinch: I'm going to update my branch and then you can take it from there
[18:57] <natefinch> ericsnow: cool
[18:57] <ericsnow> natefinch: thansk
[18:57] <natefinch> katco: I spent a lot of time looking into it before I realized eric was working on it, so I guess that works out :)
[18:58] <katco> =|
[18:58] <katco> communication people!
[18:58] <katco> ericsnow: how dare you not actually be out today
[18:58] <natefinch> exactly!
[18:58] <natefinch> ;)
[18:58] <natefinch> ok, gotta run
[19:06] <ericsnow> katco, natefinch-afk: okay, I'm out
[19:06] <katco> ericsnow: gl
[20:08] <lazypower> o/ allo core devs. Is there ever a reason to use a scope: container qualifier on a relationship outside of subordinate services? I've been noodling this for a while and dont see a use-case for it outside of subordinate relations.
[20:25] <thumper> davecheney: isn't the reason the structs moved into the multiwatcher was because state depends on multiwatcher...
[20:25] <thumper> davecheney: could the dependency change the other way around?
[20:25] <thumper> so state/multiwatcher just depends on state?
[20:26] <thumper> I'm not sure I'm remembering correctly
[20:28] <stokachu> kadams54: is there a way to do a globbed like search with theblues library?
[20:28] <stokachu> using search('nova') only pulls in nova-compute and not nova-cloud-controller etc
[20:41] <kadams54> stokachu: I don't rightly know. We use ElasticSearch on the backend, so it would be worth trying ES' query string syntax: https://www.elastic.co/guide/en/elasticsearch/reference/1.3/query-dsl-query-string-query.html#query-string-syntax
[20:42] <stokachu> kadams54: ok thanks
[20:50] <mup> Bug #1517611 opened: TestFilesystemInfo race condition in 1.25 <ci> <intermittent-failure> <regression> <juju-core:Incomplete> <juju-core 1.25:Triaged> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1517611>
[21:01] <stokachu> kadams54: find any issues with that PR?
[21:01] * thumper sighs
[21:01] <thumper> I merged the blessed master into my feature branch
[21:01] <thumper> and I have so many failures with go 1.5
[21:02] <thumper> why are go 1.5 test runs not voting?
[21:02] <natefinch> doh
[21:02] <natefinch> thumper: because they weren't passing :/
[21:02] <urulama> stokachu: the way to search anything mentioning "nova" is https://api.jujucharms.com/charmstore/v4/search?text=nova&autocomplete=1&limit=100
[21:02] <thumper> clearly the fix then is to fix them
[21:02] <thumper> not just ignore them
[21:02] <natefinch> agreed
[21:03] <thumper> FFS
[21:03] <stokachu> urulama: perfect thank you!
[21:03] <natefinch> the lxd stuff is behind build tags for go 1.3+, (since it requires go 1.3+) Hopefully you're not seeing problems with that code
[21:04] <urulama> stokachu: and it's ranked
[21:04] <stokachu> urulama: yea it looks like it return tursty/precise first
[21:04] <stokachu> urulama: so can i assume those are the blessed ones at the top each time?
[21:05] <urulama> stokachu: yes
[21:05] <stokachu> urulama: perfect much appreciated
[21:06] <urulama> stokachu: if you want to see just the blessed ones (no user namespace charms) do this https://api.jujucharms.com/charmstore/v4/search?text=nova&autocomplete=1&limit=100&owner=
[21:07] <stokachu> even better
[21:08] <kadams54> stokachu: QA checks out. I'm going to merge it.
[21:09] <stokachu> kadams54: sweet thanks!
[21:11] <thumper> natefinch: github.com/juju/juju/worker/provisioner, github.com/juju/juju/payload/api/private, github.com/juju/juju/cmd/jujud/agent (messy db cleanup), github.com/juju/juju/cmd/juju/commands, github.com/juju/juju/api/unitassigner , and some fallout that appears to be due to a clash with my current work
[21:11] <stokachu> urulama: so i noticed some of the results return charms like glance and neutron, is there a way to just search if the 'term' is in the id?
[21:12] <natefinch> thumper: hmm weird, yeah, none of that is lxd code. not sure why it would fail for go 1.5
[21:13] <thumper> natefinch: most likely the runtime changes in 1.5
[21:13] <thumper> w.r.t. GOMAXPROCS default
[21:13] <stokachu> kadams54: ew owned by docs?
[21:13] <thumper> causes more races in tests
[21:13] <natefinch> thumper: I don't think so. I always run GOMAXPROCS=8
[21:13] * thumper shrugs
[21:13] <thumper> something else then
[21:13] <natefinch> sumthin
[21:14] <natefinch> katco: I have no idea how to write a test to show that eric's code uses goroutines in exactly the right way and not in the wrong way :/
[21:14] <kadams54> stokachu: Yeah, I'll get it straightened out.
[21:14] <stokachu> urulama: not a big deal if not, i can filter it out
[21:14] <stokachu> kadams54: :)
[21:14] <katco> natefinch: let me take a peek at his code again
[21:15] <katco> natefinch: what function are you trying to test?
[21:15] <natefinch> katco: the meat of the change is in startSerialWaitParallel
[21:16] <natefinch> katco: so, before we were effectively doing the whole inside of the loop in a goroutine, and now we're only doing the second half in a goroutine
[21:17] <katco> natefinch: i think the trouble is because the wait func should be passed into startSerialWaitParallel
[21:18] <urulama> stokachu: it should be with something like https://api.jujucharms.com/charmstore/v4/search?name=mongodb&limit=100
[21:18] <katco> natefinch: pull that out, test it separately, and then test that startSerialWaitParallel calls it properly
[21:18] <urulama> stokachu: however, some names don't return any results, which makes me wonder why :S
[21:18] <katco> natefinch: i.e. startSerialWaitParallel calls whatever is passed in properly
[21:19] <natefinch> katco: yeah, that can work. I already didn't like that wait was getting half its args from closing over them and half not, so that would fix that problem.
[21:20] <katco> natefinch: isn't the only var it's closing over, "wg"?
[21:21] <natefinch> katco: 1 is half of three when you assign it to an int ;)
[21:21] <katco> lol
[21:21] <natefinch> techically correct is the best kind of correct!
[21:22] <natefinch> yeah, I though there was something else, but I guess not :)
[21:24] <katco> does anyone recall seeing a bug open recently around not being able to "upgrade-juju" after using "--upload-tools" ?
[21:24] <natefinch> ah hah, the cmd too
[21:24] <natefinch> katco: upload tools is bad juju, so to speak.
[21:24] <katco> natefinch: so not the point ;p
[21:25] <natefinch> I'm not really clear on the rules when you use upload-tools vis a vis upgrades
[21:27] <thumper> davecheney: ping when you are around
[21:28] <perrito666> I hate replicaset sometimes... and some other too
[21:28] * perrito666 bbl bike time
[21:28] <stokachu> urulama: so would https://api.jujucharms.com/charmstore/v4/search?name=nova&limit=100 return everything with 'nova' in the name?
[21:31] <urulama> stokachu: it should, but doesn't :S so, stick with the text=nova&owner= for now and filter out the ones you don't need
[21:31] <stokachu> urulama: ok cool
[21:32] <urulama> stokachu: i'll give a look why name queries fails
[21:32] <stokachu> urulama: thanks again :)
[21:32] <urulama> stokachu: np
[21:50] <natefinch> god I hate using external tests. It's like every time I go to write a nice little unit test, someone is actively trying to make it more difficult :/
[21:52] <natefinch> katco: well, refactored, but now to write the tests: https://github.com/natefinch/juju/commit/5f5e26441bc250c221e8e8b688432db8c5e8beec#diff-813c65409327242bb7df0d66ac593b91R195
[21:52] <natefinch> katco: gonna require some... tricks, I think.
[21:53] <katco> =|
[21:53] <natefinch> just difficult to detect when you're running in a separate goroutine or not
[21:55] <natefinch> actually, I think I can do it.
[21:55] <natefinch> hmm..
[21:56] <natefinch> ahh, I have it
[21:57] <natefinch> some creative locks in the start and wait functions can prove that start is always called in order, and wait gets called all at the same time
[21:59] <mup> Bug #1517632 opened: juju upgrade-juju after upload-tools fails <juju-core:New> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1517632>
[22:59] <perrito666> seriously this country.... a bit of summer and people have barbecue parties ever single night... and my desk is next to the windows
[23:00] <alexisb> thumper, axw, anastasiamac: release call is running over
[23:00] <thumper> k
[23:00] <alexisb> be there shortly
[23:01] <anastasiamac> k :D
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[01:40] <lpotter> oh QNAM, silly QNAM
[02:56] <RMJ> Anyone know if OTA8 will be released today?
[03:01] <OerHeks> November 18, 2015 is all i know
[03:02] <RMJ> Yeah that's what I saw, dunno if it got the final yes/no. It will be later today when they wake up if so I guess
[03:02] <OerHeks> http://linux.softpedia.com/blog/ubuntu-touch-ota-8-is-planned-for-release-on-november-18-2015-494501.shtml
[03:02] <RMJ> Got my Nexus 4, bluetooth mouse and external monitor ready......
[04:22] <ulala> hello, does anyone know if wifi tether is planned for mako? I can't find anything in bug tracker here - https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/phablet-tools
[04:35] <RMJ> I think tethering was added a while ago but I've never tried it
[04:35] <RMJ> http://news.softpedia.com/news/Ubuntu-for-Phones-Now-Supports-USB-Tethering-454650.shtml
[04:48] <ulala> RMJ: it was added in general, but apparently not on mako
[04:48] <RMJ> oh ok, sry
[04:49] <ulala> someone told me it's blacklisted on mako because it wasn't working
[05:32] <blesson> wifi not detecting in ubuntu 14.04
[05:32] <blesson> realtek rtl8723be adapter...
[05:32] <blesson> any help?
[06:47] <Tm_T> installing yet another Ubuntu update on Meizu (:
[06:48] <RMJ> Ooo ota 8??
[07:32] <dholbach> good morning
[07:54] <OerHeks> morning Daniel, some are already waiting for OTA-8 :-D
[07:58] <zzarr> OerHeks, I am ;)
[08:04] <zzarr> when will it be released? (or is it already?)
[08:09] <robin-hero> Hey all! Something is weird with the latest rc (not rc-proposed) channel. The image doesn't contain the latest translations, for example Unity8 uses translations which were translated before OTA-7...
[08:10] <seb128> robin-hero, do you have an example?
[08:10] <seb128> and what's the difference rc/rc-proposed?
[08:11] <robin-hero> seb128: Yes, In the power menu (restart, power off) the Power label translated to "Főkapcsoló" before OTA-7, and it is "Menü" since OTA-7. But now it is again "Főkapcsoló"
[08:12] <robin-hero> seb128: rc-propsed is for development, rc is for OTA-testing
[08:12] <seb128> robin-hero, what locale?
[08:12] <robin-hero> Oh, sorry, It's Hungarian
[08:17] <seb128> indeed
[08:17] <seb128> pitti might know
[08:17] <seb128> pitti, how are current touch overlay langpack generated?
[08:17] <seb128> https://launchpad.net/~ci-train-ppa-service/+archive/ubuntu/stable-phone-overlay/+sourcepub/5691260/+listing-archive-extra has
[08:17] <seb128> msgctxt "Title: Power off/Restart dialog"
[08:17] <seb128> msgid "Power"
[08:17] <seb128> -msgstr "Menü"
[08:17] <seb128> +msgstr "Főkapcsoló"
[08:17] <seb128> but
[08:18] <seb128> https://translations.launchpad.net/ubuntu-rtm/15.04/+source/unity8/+pots/unity8/hu/32/+translate
[08:18] <seb128> -"X-Launchpad-Export-Date: 2015-11-04 10:31+0000\n"
[08:19] <seb128> +"X-Launchpad-Export-Date: 2015-06-15 13:46+0000\n"
[08:19] <seb128> it's like it's using an old export?
[08:19] <seb128> same for french
[08:19] <seb128> robin-hero, can you open a bug about that on https://bugs.launchpad.net/canonical-devices-system-image/+filebug ?
[08:21] <pitti> seb128: we use the exports on https://translations.launchpad.net/ubuntu-rtm/15.04/+language-packs and overlay that on current vivid export; with a weekly cronjob; not much magic beyond that
[08:22] <seb128> pitti, any clue why the unity8 template has that export date 2015-11-04 -> 2015-06-15 in the most recent update?
[08:22] <seb128> that doesn't make any sense to me
[08:22] <pitti> (give me a minute)
[08:22] <seb128> sure
[08:23] <seb128> -de has the same
[08:23] <seb128> -"X-Launchpad-Export-Date: 2015-11-04 10:31+0000\n"
[08:23] <seb128> -"X-Generator: Launchpad (build 17838)\n"
[08:23] <seb128> +"X-Launchpad-Export-Date: 2015-06-15 13:46+0000\n"
[08:23] <seb128> +"X-Generator: Launchpad (build 17557)\n"
[08:36] <robin-hero> pitti: Any info? Am I need to fill a bug?
[08:36] <pitti> sorry, haven't looked yet, will soon
[08:36] <pitti> it would be useful to check the latest exports on //translations.launchpad.net/ubuntu-rtm/15.04/https://translations.launchpad.net/ubuntu-rtm/15.04/+language-packs if they have the correct strings
[08:36] <RMJ> Anyone any idea when/if OTA 8 is released?
[08:41] <pitti> seb128: oh, you already checked translations.l.n then? if it's wrong there, it'll be wrong in the export too
[08:41] <robin-hero> pitti: I've just checked the latest export, and it has the correct translations.... weird
[08:41] <robin-hero> RMJ: in the next 1-3 days
[08:42] <pitti> what is rosetta-15.04/de/LC_MESSAGES/unity89280.po ?
[08:42] <pitti> that looks like an utterly broken name for unity8?
[08:43] <pitti> robin-hero: I doubt it -- rosetta-15.04/hu/LC_MESSAGES/unity89280.po has
[08:43] <pitti> msgid "Power"
[08:43] <pitti> msgstr "Menü"
[08:43] <pitti> which looks broken
[08:43] <pitti> that's "menu" in German, almost certainly not Hungarian
[08:44] <pitti> so the names, dates, translations, and po files are garbled apparently
[08:44] <pitti> domains, I mean ("unity89280")
[08:44] <RMJ> Thx, HDMI, bluetooth mouse at the ready :)
[08:45] <pitti> robin-hero: is "https://translations.launchpad.net/ubuntu-rtm/15.04/+source/unity8/+pots/unity8/hu/32/+translate" *really* correct, can you check pleae?
[08:46] <robin-hero> pitti: Yes, Menü is correct, because we don't have a word for "Power" in this situation
[08:52] <pitti> seb128: so I guesss the problem is that the current export doesn't have unity8.po any more, but unity89280.po?
[08:56] <seb128> pitti, yeah, that seems likely
[08:56] <seb128> but why the weird domain?
[08:57] <seb128> https://translations.launchpad.net/ubuntu-rtm/15.04/+source/unity8/+pots/unity8/+admin
[08:57] <seb128> hum
[08:57] <seb128> somebody changed that?
[08:57] <seb128> I guess we don't have a record/log of those changes?
[08:58] <pitti> maybe wgrant can see it in the DB
[08:59] <seb128> let's ask on #launchpad?
[09:00] <seb128> asked
[09:00] <seb128> robin-hero, did you file a bug?
[09:01] <robin-hero> seb128: not yet
[09:05] <seb128> pitti, waiting for a reply, but I guess we just need to fix the domain and wait for another export
[09:05] <seb128> pitti, thanks for helping to debug
[09:06] <pitti> *nod*; so the remaining mystery is how the name got broken
[09:08] <pitti> seb128: I changed it back to "unity8" on /+admin, thanks for pointing out that page
[09:09] <seb128> pitti, k, I was waiting on #launchpad pong to do that, but I guess the state didn't matter much, they either have a record of changes or not
[09:10] <seb128> dpm, ^ do you know if somebody changed the unity8 domain and why?
[09:10] <pitti> seb128: right, I was doing it now as today we'll get another export, and I don't want that broken too
[09:10] <pitti> (I think it should start soonish)
[09:10] <seb128> right
[09:10] <seb128> how come that we got a unity8.po btw?
[09:10] <pitti> actually, I think it was already too late
[09:11] <seb128> I would have expected that a domain change would have resulted in unity8.po to be dropped
[09:11] <seb128> and a new unity8....pot to be added
[09:33] <jgdx> seb128, are you guys in desktop seeing more chromium-browser crashes after 15.10?
[09:33] <seb128> jgdx, not that I know, willcooke mentioned some though
[09:33] <seb128> do you?
[09:34] <seb128> I'm also using firefox
[09:34] <seb128> so I can't really speak from experience there
[09:34] <willcooke> I expect this related to the overlay-scrollbar issue from yesterday
[09:34] <seb128> I doubt it
[09:35] <seb128> that's 15.10
[09:35] <seb128> and the o-s would prevent it to start at all
[09:35] <seb128> which is different from more crashes
[09:35] <willcooke> oh, sorry missed that
[09:36] <willcooke> I'm running the staging version of Cr. Had a few niggles, but not crashes
[09:38] <jgdx> okay, thanks seb128, willcooke.
[09:39] <jgdx> A friend is seeing crashes, but he's running mate, so could be related. I'll ask him to file a bug.
[09:40] <seb128> jgdx, yeah, it's best
[09:40] <seb128> difficult to say without detials
[09:40] <seb128> but not a known issue as far as I can tell
[09:41] <jgdx> seb128, cool. Yeah, I don't see any crashes either.
[09:42] <tvoss> mardy, if you wouldn't mind: https://code.launchpad.net/~thomas-voss/location-service/robustify-event-propagation-in-case-of-multiple-providers-running/+merge/277789
[09:42] <mardy> looking
[09:44] <mardy> tvoss: is the change in debian/source/format intentional? (I have separate MP for that)
[09:45] <tvoss> mardy, nope, let me revert htat :)
[09:57] <lotuspsychje> anyone received OTA8 yet?
[09:57] <RMJ> not yet, well I haven't checked for at least 5min.... ;)
[09:58] <lotuspsychje> RMJ: ok tnx mate
[09:58] <dpm> seb128, no, sorry, I didn't change it and I don't know of anyone that whould have changed it. Unfortunately, this is not a change we can track :/
[10:00] <tvoss> mardy, fixed
[10:04] <JamesTait> Good morning all; happy Wednesday, and happy Education Support Professionals Day! 😃
[10:10] <garro> hi
[10:10] <garro> is there someone to help me?
[10:12] <peat-psuwit> garro: just say what's the problem, and if someone can help you he/she will.
[10:13] <mardy> tvoss: approved, but with a big reserve :-)
[10:14] <tvoss> mardy, noted
[10:14] <tvoss> mardy note that this applies to out of process-providers, too
[10:15] <mardy> tvoss: yes, but then why do we need threads?
[10:15] <tvoss> mardy, not sure what you mean
[10:16] <mardy> tvoss: well, this MP uses threading, which I suppose would not be useful when dealing with OOP providers
[10:17] <garro> Ok. I was flashing Ubuntu-touch on my nexus 4 when a message appeared saying that a problem occurred and the phone should be restored by a PC or a center. Now I reboted and I'm trying again...
[10:18] <tvoss> mardy, hmmm, so I don't think those two domains are connected in my mind :) also: the mp actually removes a lot of the threading
[10:18] <tvoss> mardy, the only threaded thing is an executor pool that gets consolidated
[10:18] * mardy looks twice
[10:19] <peat-psuwit> garro: try rebooting to recovery and run ubuntu-device-flash again
[10:20] <mardy> tvoss: right, I didn't pay too much attention to the removed code
[10:23] <peat-psuwit> barry: What's going on with this bug? https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-system-image/+bug/1463136
[10:24] <garro> now it says: "Root access possibly lost. Fix?"
[10:25] <peat-psuwit> garro: says no. It's left-over things from Android and I don't know how it'll effects Ubuntu touch.
[10:26] <garro> ok
[10:26] <garro> now it's booting in ubuntu
[10:29] <garro> is it normal that the current version is still 15.04 and not 15.10?
[10:30] <peat-psuwit> garro: That's correct. Ubuntu touch stable channel is currently based on 15.04
[10:30] <garro> ok
[10:30] <garro> thanks for al
[10:30] <garro> *all
[11:52] <jaywink> hey everyone. Moved my Bq 4.5 to write mode (yes I know the risks, nuclear meltdown, etc ;)), and I gathered from the docs that OTA does not work after that. But I get OTA's (rc-proposed) still for Ubuntu system part. Applied one and so far it didn't overwrite any manually installed packages. Is it risky to apply OTA's in write mode?
[11:52] <jaywink> and will I always get the same stuff with apt-getting?
[12:26] <tvoss> seb128, ping
[13:05] <tvoss> seb128, ping
[13:06] <tvoss> seb128, if you find a minute: mind giving https://requests.ci-train.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/657 a spin? fixes https://bugs.launchpad.net/trust-store/+bug/1504022
[13:09] <seb128> tvoss, hey, sure I can have a look
[13:10] <tvoss> seb128, thx
[13:11] <jgdx> faenil, ping
[13:22] <Crrs> hi, i have a nexus4 at rc-proposed r293. Is it normal, that i don't have hotspot functionality? It Diappeared a while ago :(
[13:40] <faenil> jgdx: pong, in a meeting, leave msg I'll get back to you asap
[13:40] <jgdx> Crrs, yeah, it doesn't work like it should. See bug 1434591
[13:40] <jgdx> faenil, I need some time to help debug a ListItemLayout height issue when using a loader to load it. Thanks!
[13:41] <jibel> Crrs, hotspot support has been removed from flo and mako 2 months ago, cf bug 1487157 for reference
[13:42] <Crrs> Ah, ok. I was wondering because all of a sudden it is no longer offered in system settings. Thanks for your help :)
[13:42] <jgdx> Crrs, you can get it back using a simple command on the phone, if you're interested.
[13:44] <jgdx> that enables you to create an insecure hotspot, which is less likely to cause the wpa_supp bug.
[13:44] <boichev> Hello, I have added a new disk in ceph but the remmaping process stuck on the last 3.518% It says on this for the last 7 hours ...... Here is a pastebin with most of the debugging data I can think of .....http://pastebin.com/6GJj5gGd
[13:45] <boichev> ops wrong channel
[13:48] <Crrs> jgdx, thanks. I dont need hotspot right now, i can wait. I thougt the missing hotspot is a bug, i didnt know that it was removed on purpose.
[14:03] <jgdx> faenil, unping
[14:04] <faenil> jgdx: fixed it? :)
[14:07] <mardy> tvoss: I see that there's a geoclue provider; are we using it on the phone?
[14:07] <tvoss> mardy, nope, and it's actually pointless by now :) we can safely remove it
[14:10] <mardy> tvoss: I was thinking that it would be nice to have a geoIP-based provider, do you think I could spend some time on it?
[14:10] <jgdx> faenil, yeah, I think so. There was an assumption that the loaded listitem would have a size even though it was set to visible: false.
[14:11] <tvoss> mardy, sure, I would rather like to have it local, though. We can discuss a little later, on a hangout right now
[14:11] <jgdx> faenil, (listitem was using listitemlayout)
[14:12] <mardy> tvoss: OK
[14:16] <faenil> jgdx: do you have that code online? I'd like to doublecheck I'm doing the right
[14:16] <faenil> thing
[14:17] <jgdx> faenil, let me try to repro with a mcve
[14:17] <faenil> jgdx: thanks
[14:20] <mterry> slangasek, your fix for bug 1512323 is in the latest devel-proposed images, but mine still doesn't boot. Is that expected because some of the other alignment issues from that bug are still in the source?
[14:22] <jibel> mterry, this bug is fixed, now you must blame lxc
[14:22] <jibel> mterry, the android container doesn't start
[14:23] <mterry> jibel, ah. Didn't know there was another culprit :-P
[14:23] <jibel> mterry, bug 1516971
[14:25] <mterry> jibel, thanks
[14:26] <seb128> tvoss, tested 047, I get correct app names translated (e.g "appareil photo" for the camera), good work!
[14:26] <tvoss> seb128, ack andthx
[14:29] <seb128> tvoss, btw while you are at doing tweaks to the dialog https://bugs.launchpad.net/trust-store/+bug/1382610 would be trivial to fix, I can do a mp if you like
[14:33] <awe> Mirv, if I add logging statements to the networkmanager bearer plugin, where would I find the actual log output on the device ( ie. the logging output from unity8 )?
[14:37] <jgdx> faenil, not very minimal http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/13330521/
[14:38] <Mirv> awe: I don't know really, tsdgeos probably knows. if you mean Qt's own output, unity8's would be in .cache/upstart
[14:38] <awe> yes
[14:38] <awe> that's what I meant
[14:38] <jgdx> faenil, thing is, I'm not sure why the visible: height > 0 is there. Once that's gone, it works as expected.
[14:39] <awe> Mirv, perfect, just what I was looking for, and I can see my debug output now. Just need to figure out why the code's not doing the right thing
[14:39] <awe> ;D
[14:41] <faenil> jgdx: let me try
[14:42] <jgdx> faenil, the parent checks doesn't matter here, it's just silencing warnings you get from changing the model like that
[14:43] <faenil> jgdx: so, what is the problem in the code you pasted?
[14:43] <faenil> what is the expected and actual behaviour?
[14:43] <jgdx> faenil, when you add items, they are overlapping
[14:43] <jgdx> faenil, expected them to not overlap
[14:44] <faenil> jgdx: ok, right. I'm having a look
[14:48] <peat-psuwit> barry: How is this bug going on? https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-system-image/+bug/1463136
[14:48] <jgdx> seb128, hey, what do you think of https://code.launchpad.net/~jonas-drange/ubuntu-system-settings/lp1517488/+merge/277833 ?
[14:49] <barry> peat-psuwit: stalled unfortunately. :(
[14:49] <seb128> jgdx, that a binary name is not a path ;-)
[14:49] <jgdx> seb128, ah, right :p
[14:50] <seb128> :-)
[14:50] <seb128> unsure why we had the full path, but I'm fine changing it if it works
[14:50] <seb128> what are others doing?
[14:52] <peat-psuwit> barry: Is there anything I can do? I just want to host my own system-image server.
[14:52] <jgdx> seb128, in clock app, there's self.binary = 'ubuntu-clock-app'
[14:52] <barry> peat-psuwit: for now, just keep reminding me ;)
[14:52] <barry> i'll try to get back to it soon-ish
[14:52] <jgdx> seb128, seems reasonable?
[14:52] <peat-psuwit> barry: OK.
[14:53] <seb128> jgdx, yes, please just rename the variable
[14:53] <jgdx> yup
[14:54] <jgdx> seb128, filemanager too uses that pattern—self.binary = 'filemanager'
[14:55] <seb128> k, that seems to make sense
[14:55] <peat-psuwit> Does anyone know how to manage manual-type channel in system-image server?
[15:11] <lotuspsychje> no ota8 on BQ yet here :p
[15:40] <faenil> jgdx: still trying to understand what happens...ListItem and ListItemLayout are resized correctly, but Loader doesn't follow them as it should...
[15:40] <jgdx> faenil, … until you remove the visible: height > 0
[15:41] <faenil> jgdx: yes because in that case there's no additional resizing
[15:41] <faenil> jgdx: what happens is that ListItemLayout skips the layout process when the item is not visible (as it wouldn't make sense, right?)
[15:41] <jgdx> yup
[15:42] <faenil> jgdx: after it becomes visible (because the Item becomes visible) it updates its height, ListItem follows, but Loader doesn't
[15:42] <jgdx> faenil, right, but it does send events, and a Connection { target: loader.item; onHeightChanged … fires
[15:43] <faenil> yes, loader.item resizes correctly, it's Loader itself which doesn't follow
[15:44] <jgdx> faenil, per the doc, that's supposed to happen automagically
[15:44] <faenil> jgdx: but then if I trigger height+=1, then Loader picks it up, and it updates correctly
[15:44] <faenil> jgdx: ListItemLayout resizes correctly, ListItem follows correctly, it is Loader that doesn't resize
[15:45] <faenil> jgdx: as if the item resizes before Loader connects to item.heightChanged
[15:45] <faenil> I'm towards thinking it's a Loader bug at the moment, but I'm still investigating as I'm not convinced
[15:46] <brendand> dobey, hey, how far did you get with packaging the latest testtools? i seem to recall you were doing something with that before?
[15:47] <jgdx> faenil, note that this bug was not present when using ListItem.Standard. Would that be because rendering is slower in ListItem.Standard, allowing the connection from loader to loader.item.heightChanged to be made first?
[15:47] <faenil> jgdx: no, probably just because the old listitems had fixed height
[15:47] <jgdx> oh, that's right
[15:48] <faenil> jgdx: plus if I add height: "item ? item.height : 0" I get a binding loop
[15:48] <faenil> and that doesn't make sense
[15:48] <faenil> because ListItem's height doesn't depend on Loader's height
[15:49] <faenil> (unless there's something Repeater or Column do that I'm not aware of)
[15:49] <faenil> (that expression is for Loader's height )
[15:50] <dobey> brendand: i got it packaged in a PPA, but i think there's newer stuff now
[15:51] <dobey> brendand: veebers e-mailed me about it as well, and i replied to him
[15:52] <brendand> dobey, ok - he said he was going to but wasn't sure if he did. thanks
[15:52] <jgdx> faenil, yeah, I saw those binding loops as well. Sadly I know too little of any of those component's internals.
[15:53] <dobey> brendand: wily/xenial has newer stuff, but still not new enough, fwiw
[15:54] <brendand> dobey, can you point me to the ppa?
[15:54] <faenil> jgdx: that's what happens http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/13331179/
[15:54] <dobey> the latest testtools uses some stuff that's only in 3.5, and so requires some backports for older versions, which some people didn't want to have packaged in ubuntu, and i just gave up because i didn't want to argue about it
[15:54] <dobey> brendand: ppa:dobey/testtools
[16:05] <peat-psuwit> Does anyone know how to manage manual-type channel in system-image server?
[16:11] <faenil> jgdx: just fyi, no problem is asyncronous in the Loader is false
[16:12] <faenil> no problem if *
[16:15] <faenil> jgdx: use "visible: status == Loader.Ready"
[16:18] <faenil> since you're loading items asyncronously..
[16:29] <faenil> jgdx: I'll take silence as an "ok" :D
[18:01] <faenil> jgdx: I managed to reproduce the bug without ListItem/ListItemLayout
[18:01] <faenil> jgdx: just Rectangles ;)
[18:02] <faenil> at this point I'm quite sure this just has to do with the way Loader works, not a bug in uitk
[18:05] <faenil> jgdx: as the Loader documentation says, one should either set the size in the loaded item, and Loader will copy that, *or* set the size of the Loader, not both
[18:06] <faenil> one possible solution is to remove the anchors in the Loader and "onLoaded: item.width = Qt.binding(function() { return parent.width })"
[18:06] <faenil> so that the item has both the correct width and height, and Loader just takes mirrors that
[18:06] * faenil -> eod
[18:07] <faenil> jgdx: if you need more help just ping me :)
[18:09] <faenil> that's why Loader was complaining for binding loop when doing "width: item ? item.width : 0", because Loader was already trying to resize to do "item.width = loader.width" (that's pseudocode) because the loader had left and right anchors set, so Loader assumed it was its task to resize the loaded item (as the documentation says)
[18:09] <faenil> s/width/heigth in the previous sentence
[18:09] * faenil -> really eod
[18:12] <dragis> can i install ubuntu or ubuntu touch on my nexus 7 2012
[18:12] <dragis> ?
[18:14] <OerHeks> dragis, no, " the Nexus 10 and the 2012 version of the Nexus 7 have been dropped from Ubuntu Touch support by Canonical."
[18:15] <OerHeks> nexus 7 2013 is supported > https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/Devices
[18:16] <dragis> ok thanks :)
[18:23] <dobey> OerHeks: the nexus 10 is still on the devices list there as supported. i think you meant the galaxy nexus in wherever you got that quote from? :)
[18:25] <OerHeks> dobey, i got that quote from http://www.androidcentral.com/ubuntu-touch-support-dropped-galaxy-nexus-nexus-7-2012-nexus-10
[18:26] <OerHeks> my bad, should stick to the latest info :-(
[18:33] <davmor2> dobey: it might need updating then we don't test manta any more
[18:34] <dobey> davmor2: test in what sense? how often are flo, mako, or emulators tested?
[18:34] <davmor2> dobey: every ota release
[18:35] <dobey> hmm, i need to set up an s-i server i think
[19:55] <OerHeks> Is OTA-8 out yet?
[19:56] <davmor2> OerHeks: no probably Tomorrow
[19:56] <OerHeks> oke thanks.
[20:15] <jaywink> any idea anyone whether updating rc-proposed OTA images can overwrite things in a write mode enabled device? like extra packages installed via apt-get
[20:17] <davmor2> jaywink: it will likely break things
[20:23] <jaywink> davmor2, ok thanks, I'll refrain from applying them then, thanks
[20:25] <dobey> jaywink: you should use a chroto instead
[20:25] <dobey> jaywink: https://askubuntu.com/questions/620740/recommended-way-to-install-regularcli-deb-packages-on-ubuntu-phone/623311#623311
[20:26] <pandatrone> soooooo cold brrr
[20:31] <jaywink> dobey, hmmm... why? the ubuntu developers page itself specifies for enabling write mode to do "phablet-config writable-image" (https://developer.ubuntu.com/en/start/ubuntu-for-devices/installing-ubuntu-for-devices/). That works fine for me, apt-get and all works sweet. I don't want to do hacks to maintain OTA :)
[20:33] <dobey> jaywink: because a) that breaks updates and b) / is not the full available space on the phone's flash. also, a chroot is not a hack. it is the correct way to be installing additional command line tools or running an ftp server on your phone
[20:36] <jaywink> dobey, how does it break updates? does apt-get dist-upgrade not bring (at least) the changes that OTA "Ubuntu" would? As an ubuntu desktop + server user, to me that is a hack if I don't have to do that on my desktop/server to manage my system
[20:36] <dobey> the writable-image stuff is for making developing and testing the image itself easier, not something people should use on actual phones
[20:36] <jaywink> dobey, great, I love developing and testing :)
[20:37] <dobey> jaywink: you don't get updates at all. apt-get dist-upgrade will break because there isn't enough space on / to continue doing it, and the way the filesystem is set up, cross-device links break things
[20:37] <dobey> apt-get upgrade is not at all supported, even with writable-image, on the phone
[20:37] <dobey> apt should only be used to install single packages from eg, a silo, to test things
[20:38] <jaywink> ah, that is a shame :(
[20:38] <dobey> and indeed, apt-get does not pull in all the updates that might be in an OTA image update
[20:38] <dobey> it's not a shame, it's a fact
[20:38] <jaywink> will the same be applied to desktops in the future, I mean, otherwise it's not really convergence?
[20:39] <dobey> Ubuntu Personal will be system-image based, yes
[20:39] <dobey> but the traditional ubuntu won't be going away
[20:40] <dobey> well, i don't know how exactly system-image and snappy will fit together, but Ubuntu Personal is the future
[20:41] <dobey> convergence doesn't mean enabling apt on phones, despite what many old hat thinkers might want :)
[20:42] <jaywink> dobey, well, for the old hats it does :P
[20:43] <jaywink> but yeah, you can't please everybody, I realize that. For me, a completely hackable device is what I want.
[20:43] <dobey> well, then they can break their phones and have it open to huge gaping security holes and whatnot if they want
[20:44] <dobey> most people who have cell phones want phones, not VAX terminals ;)
[20:44] <jaywink> yep :) freedom to do what one wants
[20:44] <dobey> but still
[20:45] <jaywink> sure. but pleasing most people shouldn't mean stopping the minority ;) but as said, I realize the technical decision made
[20:45] <dobey> if you want to make the best use of your ubuntu phone by installing random things via apt, the best way to do that, is in a chroot
[20:45] <dobey> nothing is stopping you
[20:45] <dobey> like i said, it breaks updates
[20:45] <jaywink> thanks for your time
[20:46] <dobey> you are welcome to make a choice to break updates, or to use a chroot and keep getting updates as well as having what you want via apt
[20:47] <dobey> fwiw, legacy application support will be provided via container as well.
[21:00] <jgdx> faenil, but did we set both? Thanks for looking into it
[21:35] <slash> hello, i need advice, could you please tell me how to start an app from the terminal ?
[21:38] <jgdx> slash, $ ubuntu-app-launch is one way
[21:46] <slash> thanks jgdx, unfortunatly i do not succeed with your way; two warning appear about unable to find a keyfile...
[21:49] <jgdx> slash, what app?
[21:50] <slash> kodimote
[21:51] <slash> when I'm launching it just by the bin path; he gave me a "fail to connect to mir server3
[21:52] <slash> I found a bug at the connection; doens't accept the password; I would like to see the debug to send the report to the owner
[21:53] <slash> I found a command to suppress the mir connection failure, how ever the app start nicely in terminal but without gui.... :/ so block when any action from me
[21:55] <jgdx> slash, I'm a bit rusty on these things. Maybe #ubuntu-app-devel has more info right now.
[21:56] <jgdx> slash, but how did you run ubuntu-app-launch?
[21:58] <jgdx> pretty sure you'd need a click id, not a name or binary
[22:00] <slash> ok thanks
[22:01] <slash> copy pasting from the touch terminal isn't straigth forward :D
[22:01] <slash> (process:13833): WARNING **: Unable to find keyfile for application '/opt/click.ubuntu.com/com.ubuntu.developer.mzanetti.kodimote/current/kodimote' ** (process:13833): WARNING **: Unable to find keyfile for application '/opt/click.ubuntu.com/com.ubuntu.developer.mzanetti.kodimote/current/kodimote'
[22:02] <slash> and nothing more append...
[22:03] <mzanetti> slash, try adding "-- --desktop_file_hint=/home/phablet/.local/share/applications/com.ubuntu.developer.mzanetti.kodimote_..destkop"
[22:04] <slash> Ha ha great, hello mzanetti
[22:07] <mzanetti> slash, hello :) I assume you're the one that wrote the email
[22:11] <slash> yes :) , m'I correct : "ubuntu-app-launch /opt/click.ubuntu.com/com.ubuntu.developer.mzanetti.kodimote/current/kodimote -- --desktop_file_hint=/home/phablet/.local/share/applications/com.ubuntu.developer.mzanetti.kodimote_kodimote_2.1.2.2.desktop" ?
[22:11] <mzanetti> oh, I see, you're using ubuntu-app launch
[22:11] <slash> I still have the same keyfile missing...
[22:12] <dobey> slash: "ubuntu-app-launch com.ubuntu.developer.mzanetti.kodimote"
[22:12] <dobey> err, actually
[22:12] <mzanetti> yes, in that case, no need for the desktop_file_hint hack
[22:12] <dobey> slash: "ubuntu-app-launch com.ubuntu.developer.mzanetti.kodimote_kodimote_2.1.2.2"
[22:12] <dobey> you do need the full app id
[22:12] <mzanetti> thanks dobey :)
[22:12] <dobey> np :)
[22:17] <slash> ok thanks, i'm able to launch the app now
[22:18] <slash> however I don't get any output, even with "ubuntu-app-launch com.ubuntu.developer.mzanetti.kodimote_kodimote_2.1.2.2 -d connection", any idea ?
[22:18] <mzanetti> slash, output will be written to ~/.cache/upstart/application-click-<appid>.log
[22:20] <dobey> slash: you can't pass arguments to the app with ubuntu-app-launch like that
[22:21] <dobey> you need to run "/opt/click.ubuntu.com/com.ubuntu.developer.mzanetti.kodimote/current/kodimote --desktop_file_hint=/home/phablet/.local/share/applications/com.ubuntu.developer.mzanetti.kodimote_kodimote_2.1.2.2.desktop -d connection" to do that
[22:21] <slash> Ok thanks mzanetti and dobey, for the information I got the log
[22:22] <slash> ok i've to wrote it, these to command :)
[22:23] <mzanetti> slash, I'm not sure if you can pass arguments to the app when using ubuntu-app-launch. I usually do what dobey said. no ubuntu-app-launch but instead with the --desktop_file_hint one.
[22:23] <mzanetti> iirc kodimote should print in its first lines if it picked up some parameter
[22:23] <mzanetti> well, if it worked, you'll see a lot more output prefixed with "Connection"
[22:24] <slash> It's the first time i'm pulling out log from touch :)
[22:24] <slash> ok i'll try and if it work you'll get a bug report:) thanks
[22:27] <slash> Ok when writing "ubuntu-app-launch /opt/click.ubuntu.com/com.ubuntu.developer.mzanetti.kodimote/current/kodimote -- --desktop_file_hint=/home/phablet/.local/share/applications/com.ubuntu.developer.mzanetti.kodimote_kodimote_2.1.2.2.desktop"
[22:28] <mzanetti> no ubuntu-app-launch in this case
[22:28] <dobey> and no -- to pass args to child app
[22:28] <dobey> i don't think anyway
[22:29] <dobey> i could be wrong about that one, but i'm pretty sure you just pass --desktop_file_hint directly
[22:30] <slash> sorry my mistake I paste the wrong line
[22:30] <slash> "/opt/click.ubuntu.com/com.ubuntu.developer.mzanetti.kodimote/current/kodimote —desktop_file_hint=/home/phablet/.local/share/applications/com.ubuntu.developer.mzanetti.kodimote_kodimote_2.1.2.2.desktop -d connection"
[22:30] <slash> I got
[22:30] <slash> Loading module: 'libubuntu_application_api_touch_mirclient.so.3.0.0' /opt/click.ubuntu.com/com.ubuntu.developer.mzanetti.kodimote/current/kodimote: invalid option -- 'd' UbuntuClientIntegration: connection to Mir server failed. Check that a Mir server is running, and the correct socket is being used and is accessible. The shell may have rejected the incoming connection, so check its log file Aborted (core dumped)
[22:31] <mzanetti> on sec, looking up something
[22:31] <dobey> slash: oh, remove the "-d connection" then
[22:31] <mzanetti> dobey, the -d connection is the reason why he wants to do this
[22:32] <slash> ok without I got an output, I though -d connection was able to extract even more dedication to the connection
[22:32] <dobey> mzanetti: is that an option your app handles?
[22:32] <mzanetti> /opt/click.ubuntu.com/com.ubuntu.developer.mzanetti.kodimote/current/kodimote -d connection -- —desktop_file_hint=/home/phablet/.local/share/applications/com.ubuntu.developer.mzanetti.kodimote_kodimote_2.1.2.2.desktop
[22:32] <mzanetti> dobey, kodimote
[22:33] <mzanetti> slash, try changing the order and separating them with "--" as in my line above
[22:35] <slash> my command : /opt/click.ubuntu.com/com.ubuntu.developer.mzanetti.kodimote/current/kodimote -d connection — —desktop_file_hint=/home/phablet/.local/share/applications/com.ubuntu.developer.mzanetti.kodimote_kodimote_2.1.2.2.desktop
[22:35] <mzanetti> yes... this looks ok. just tried it, works here
[22:35] <slash> Loading module: 'libubuntu_application_api_touch_mirclient.so.3.0.0' /opt/click.ubuntu.com/com.ubuntu.developer.mzanetti.kodimote/current/kodimote: invalid option -- 'd' UbuntuClientIntegration: connection to Mir server failed. Check that a Mir server is running, and the correct socket is being used and is accessible. The shell may have rejected the incoming connection, so check its log file Aborted (core dumped)
[22:35] <slash> it does not :/
[22:36] <mzanetti> indeed, yours doesn't (there must be a typo)
[22:36] <mzanetti> interesting
[22:36] <mzanetti> you seem to have a different character for "-"
[22:36] <slash> i'm doing copy/paste...
[22:37] <mzanetti> -- vs —
[22:37] <slash> hum correct
[22:41] <slash> I got an output now in the terminal, can i write down the output in a log file by "/opt/click.ubuntu.com/com.ubuntu.developer.mzanetti.kodimote/current/kodimote -d connection -- --desktop_file_hint=/home/phablet/.local/share/applications/com.ubuntu.developer.mzanetti.kodimote_kodimote_2.1.2.2.desktop > logfile" ?
[22:41] <mzanetti> should work I guess
[22:42] <slash> FYI the typo comes from copy past between firefox - telegram / telegram - terminal :)
[22:42] <mzanetti> slash, add this "> foo.log 2>&1"
[22:42] <mzanetti> slash, you might want to enable ssh ;)
[22:42] <mzanetti> on the phone
[22:43] <slash> Yes but can I run the app from ssh connection and the gui stay in the phone ?
[22:44] <slash> Ah yes it's working...
[22:44] <slash> awsome !!! a new dimension
[22:46] <slash> mzanetti: do you want in parallel the output of xbmcremote ?
[22:46] <mzanetti> slash, I think kodimote should be enough
[22:47] <slash> ok thanks for your help, bye
[22:49] <mzanetti> yw. thanks for the bug report
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[09:57] <Laney> hi, wondering if anyone is looking at mir blocked in xenial-proposed?
[10:01] <Laney> (liburcu hangs on ppc64el)
[10:13] <alan_g> Laney: I'm not aware of it. But I don't see how Mir can impact liburcu?
[10:14] <Laney> it's one of Mir's dependencies
[10:14] <seb128> alan_g, it doesn't impact it directly, it's the other way around
[10:15] <seb128> MIR is blocked because one of the libs it's using needs to be fixed
[10:15] <alan_g> seb128: ah, at least that makes sense.
[10:19] <alan_g> So landing wouldn't break anything that isn't already broken?
[10:21] <seb128> that's not how it works
[10:21] <seb128> that library got an update
[10:21] <seb128> and the new mir built/got linked to that new version
[10:21] <seb128> so landing the mir update means landing the library update with it
[10:21] <seb128> so if the lib has a regression mir might have a regression as well
[10:22] <seb128> even if it's not mir's fault
[10:22] <seb128> or said differently the library you are using needs to be cleared out or it's going to block mir
[10:22] <Laney> And blocking mir means it blocks anything that depends on mir (in this case GTK)
[10:26] <alan_g> alf_: is it AlbertA trying to release Mir to xenial?
[10:27] <alan_g> seb128: I've no idea how to "clear out liburcu" - is this urgent? Or can it wait for the USA to wake up?
[10:27] <seb128> alan_g, it can wait for them to wake up
[10:28] <seb128> alan_g, the issue with liburcu is that the build/tests hang on ppc64el
[10:28] <seb128> so somebody needs to debug why
[10:28] <seb128> (likely an upstream issue, it's also happening in Debian)
[10:28] <alf_> alan_g: Yes, 0.17.1
[10:29] <alan_g> seb128: can't we just use the old version?
[10:30] <alf_> seb128: problem with ppc64el is that we have no reasonable way to replicate the problems locally
[10:30] <alan_g> Who can debug ppc64el?
[10:32] <seb128> alan_g, we would need to delete the update and rebuild mir
[10:32] <seb128> but that's not really constructive, we are going to need to update that lib one day
[10:32] <seb128> so better to fix the issue and move forward
[10:35] <alan_g> seb128: the first problem is the lack of any ppc64el kit on which to investigate.
[10:35] <seb128> Laney guessed that would be an issue :-/
[10:35] <Laney> there's the bos01 cloud
[10:36] <Laney> I would hope that it's possible to get access there
[10:37] <Laney> although... I just tested on an instance there (abusing my access through autopkgtest) and it actually built :(
[10:37] <Laney> one second
[10:38] <Laney> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/liburcu/+bug/1511458
[10:40] <Laney> seems it might be a cloud/kernel bug
[10:42] * Laney asked
[14:09] <pandatrone> what happened to mir?last update is 2015-11-13
[14:09] <pandatrone> 5 days ago
[14:14] <alan_g> pandatrone: MP landings have been backing up because of trouble in CI. Hoping that is now resolved.
[14:14] <pandatrone> alan_g, phew :D thanks!
[14:17] <alan_g> were you waiting on something?
[14:20] <pandatrone> alan_g, nope. i just like to read the new mir updates :D
[14:23] * alan_g resolves to write interesting commit comments.
[14:23] <pandatrone> :))
[14:54] <anpok_> alan_g: evemu-record worked for me when I dont send it to background
[14:54] <anpok_> but it just terminates otherwise
[14:55] <alan_g> OK, you need both devices at the same time?
[14:56] <anpok_> alan_g: hm I think so yes..
[14:57] <anpok_> but there is also a slight chance that this will be fixed by: https://code.launchpad.net/~andreas-pokorny/mir/use-one-cursor-position-per-seat/+merge/277843
[14:57] <anpok_> but I cannot remember the details
[15:00] <tsdgeos> guys, i need this https://code.launchpad.net/~aacid/mir/eintr_dispatch_loop/+merge/277847 otherwise my unity8 aborts, can anyone with more knowledge of the code have a look and decide if it makes any sense?
[15:06] <alan_g> anpok_: sent. I'll try your branch later
[15:07] <alan_g> tsdgeos: looks weird to me too. I think RAOF wrote most of that code
[15:10] <alan_g> Laney: is the problem with liburcu still needing help from Mir?
[15:26] <anpok_> alan_g: hm ok but you are pressing alt while moving the trackpoint?
[15:26] <alan_g> yes
[15:58] <Laney> alan_g: not right now, hopefully lp will fix it
[15:58] <Laney> https://portal.admin.canonical.com/85976 for those who can see that
[16:25] <alan_g> anpok_: which set of your branches should I merge to test laptop?
[16:46] <alan_g> anpok_: reapplied lp:~andreas-pokorny/mir/load-all-supported-input-platforms and lp:~andreas-pokorny/mir/use-one-cursor-position-per-seat - I still have a problem. The trackpoint controls the cursor unless the middle button is pressed. Alt+left button drags the triangle, Alt on its own or Alt+right just move the cursor. Just pressing the middle button (with or without Alt) and the cursor only responds to the touchpad (
[16:46] <alan_g> but that has never worked with the "mouse" buttons).
[16:58] <anpok_> oh
[16:58] <anpok_> we do not unify the mouse buttons
[16:59] <anpok_> for the input stack the trackpoint and the mouse buttons belong to one device and the touchpad is separate..
[17:00] <anpok_> that means touchpad movement + trackpoint buttons are two separate streams of events hence.. if someone checks for button state on motion events all will be released..
[17:00] <anpok_> but thats simple to combine .. just like we did with modifier..
[17:01] <alan_g> I just don't want to break something that is already working (trackpoint+middle button)
[17:02] <alan_g> I thought it might be diagnostic that the left and right buttons do work
[17:08] <anpok_> hmm yes that is strange
[17:13] <alan_g> is something misidentifying it as a *two* button mouse?
[17:17] <anpok_> oh I have to make sure the server sees the first events too otherwise it will miss the middle button down press
[17:18] <anpok_> yes I can reproduce .. it has nothing to do with any of my theories.
[17:21] <alan_g> anpok_: reproduction is the first step towards diagnosis
[17:29] <anpok_> hum.. and I believe we dont want to have a separate button state between pointing devices
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[00:19] <autowiz> 재부팅되는거 기다리는찰나 잠들어 버렸네요 ㅠㅠ
[00:20] <samahui_WS> 어제도 밤샘하신건가요? 몸 상해요. 쉬엄쉬엄 하세요
[00:20] <samahui_WS> 전 푹~ 자고 왔더니 이명도 확 줄어든듯하고 머리 아픔도 상당부분 가셨네요
[00:25] <autowiz> 다행이십니다 ㅎㅎ
[00:28] <Work^Seony> autowiz님도 나이가 30대 중반은 꺾이시지 않았나요?
[00:30] <Work^Seony> 인제 슬슬 힘들어지실텐데 야근 줄이셔야할 거에요
[00:31] <autowiz> 저 는 16살이고 싶은 36이지요 ㅋㅋㅋ
[00:31] <autowiz> 죽기살기로 열심히 살고 있습니다. 죽기전에 마세라티 람보르니기 벤츠 다 한번 사볼라고요 ㅎㅎ
[00:32] <Work^Seony> ISIS가 미국에도 테러 일으킬거라고 협박영상 공개하더니, 오늘 시카고 공항에서 이상한 행동을 하는 승객 3명이 있어서 데려갔다네요
[00:32] <Work^Seony> 진짜 테러 일으키려나
[00:32] <Work^Seony> 흐 저는 이번에 구입한 차도 너무너무 맘에 들던데, 유럽차 타면 입 찢어질 거 같네요 ㅎㅎ
[00:34] <autowiz> 마세라티는 처음에 어감으로는 중동이나 그런쪽인줄 알았는데 이탈리아 군요
[00:34] <Work^Seony> 마*로 시작하는 차는 아직 본적이 없어요 ㅎㅎ
[00:34] <autowiz> 마티즈 ㅋㅋㅋ
[00:34] <samahui_WS> 마이바흐
[00:34] <Work^Seony> ㅋㅋ
[00:35] <Work^Seony> 네 마이바흐 있죠. 마이바흐 마세라티 아직 본적이 없어요
[00:35] <samahui_WS> 마징가 를 차로...
[00:35] <samahui_WS> 자차로 로봇한대는 있어야죠~
[00:35] <Work^Seony> 여기도 모터쇼를 1년에 한 번씩 하는데, 페라리 람보르기니는 못타게 하더라구요
[00:35] <Work^Seony> 험머는 줄서서 타봤습니다 ㅎㅎ
[00:36] <samahui_WS> 갸는 어디 망가지기라도 할까요? ㅎㅎ 일부러 차도 안다칠거같은 차라...
[00:36] <autowiz> 모터쇼 한번 가봤었는데 사람들 다들 카메라들고 차보다는 모델분들을 찍고 계시는거 같더라는 ㅋㅋ
[00:36] <Work^Seony> bmw7도 타보긴 했는데, 좋은차는 다르더라구요
[00:36] <Work^Seony> 여기 모터쇼는 여자는 없고 차만 있어요 ㅎㅎ
[00:37] <Work^Seony> 넓은 공간에 차만 전시되어있고, 대부분은 직접 타볼 수 있게 문을 안잠궈둡니다
[00:37] <samahui_WS> 전 재규어가 좋아요... 신형말고 구형... ㅎㅎ
[00:37] <Work^Seony> 재규어 제 와이프가 무쟈 좋아하는 차죠 ㅎㅎ
[00:37] <samahui_WS> 전 가장 최근에 가본 모터쇼가 전기차 모터쇼였죠
[00:37] <samahui_WS> 전기차들 이쁜거 많더군요
[00:37] <Work^Seony> 차 앞에 재규어가 까꿍하고 서있는게 뽀대난다고 ㅎㅎ
[00:37] <samahui_WS> 저랑 같네요 ㅎㅎ
[00:38] <samahui_WS> 저도 그 까꿍하는 재규어 있는 놈들이 좋습니다... 그거 없으면 재규어가 아니죠
[00:38] <samahui_WS> 고로 신형 싫어해요 고 놈이 없어요
[00:38] <Work^Seony> 네 신형은 요즘 안달려서 나오더라구요
[00:39] <samahui_WS> 가장 이뻐하는 녀석은 XJ12 라는 놈입니다
[00:40] <Work^Seony> 가격대는 얼마에요?
[00:40] <samahui_WS> 97년인가 쯤 나온 모델이죠
[00:40] <samahui_WS> ㅎㅎ
[00:40] <samahui_WS> 구 모델은 중고를 사야되는지라 판매자가 없으면 가격도 없죠 ㅜㅜ
[00:41] <Work^Seony> 그렇긴 하죠
[00:41] <samahui_WS> 3~5000유로정도에 영국중고차사이트에 뜨긴합니다
[00:41] <samahui_WS> ㅎㅎ;;
[00:42] <Work^Seony> 미국에서는 대략 6만불부터 시작하네요
[00:42] <Work^Seony> 걍 하와이에서는 렉서스 타는게 낫겠네요
[00:42] <samahui_WS> 90년대 생이라 비싸게 사봐야 ... 부품도 못구하는 우리나라에서는 못굴리겠죠
[00:42] <samahui_WS> 그냥 장식용될 확율이 높네요 ㅜㅜ
[00:43] <Work^Seony> 저는 이번에 차 샀으니, 다음차는 아마 10년 후에나 사게 되겠네요 ㅎㅎ
[00:43] <Work^Seony> 10년 후에 제가 새 차 사게되면, 그때는 차가 날아다닐까요?
[00:43] <samahui_WS> 전 새차 사려 이리저리 알아보면서 아내 눈치살피고 있습니다
[00:43] <samahui_WS> 10년후에는 시간여행을 했으면 좋겠습니다. 드로이안 정도는 나와줘야죠
[00:44] <autowiz> 차가 없어지고 순간 이동기가 나올려면... 10년으로는 안되겠네요 ㅎㅎ
[00:44] <Work^Seony> ㅎㅎ
[00:44] <Work^Seony> 평행우주론에 의하면, 과거로 가도 어차피 소용이 없어서 ㅎㅎ
[00:44] <autowiz> 과거도 미래도 어짜피 다른 과거이고 다른 미래 이다 이런건가요
[00:45] <Work^Seony> 네
[00:45] <samahui_WS> 다른 타임라인에 또다른 저는 잘못을 좀 바로 잡고 살아야죠
[00:45] <autowiz> 그러고보면 과거든 미래든 갔다가 돌아올 수 나 있을까요 그렇게 많은 평행중에서 ㅠㅠ
[00:45] <Work^Seony> 그러니까, 어떤 선택의 기로에서 뭘 선택하냐에 따라 미래는 각각 진행된다고 보는 이론이죠...
[00:46] <samahui_WS> 가서 뒤통수나 때려주고 오려고요
[00:46] <samahui_WS> 쉽게 이해하려면 슈타인즈게이트를...
[00:46] <autowiz> 한가지 돌아온다고 하면 , 수십 수백년 진보된 기술력을 가지고 돌아올 수 는 있겠네요. 소스코드 복사 같은거랄까
[00:47] <Work^Seony> 존 티토 사건 아시죠?
[00:47] <samahui_WS> 시간여행을 그린 영화나 만화를 보면 재미있는게 미래보다는 과거로 많이 가죠... 과거를 바꿔 현재의 나를 잘살게 하는게 목적이라고 볼수도 있지만... 미래를 예측할 머리가 안되는게 현실이다가 맞다고 봅니다
[00:47] <autowiz> ./configure && make && make install 은 현실로 돌아와서 다시 ( 엄청난 에러를 헤쳐나가면서 ㅋㅋ )
[00:47] <Work^Seony> 그것도, 존 티토가 말하길, 자기네가 사는 미래는 3차 대전으로 인해 많은 나라가 멸망한 미래라고 했거든요..
[00:48] <autowiz> 구글링 : 존 티토
[00:48] <samahui_WS> 미래를 가도 꼭 미래를 전쟁이나 사고로 과거로 회귀한 모습으로 그리죠
[00:48] <Work^Seony> 당시 ibm 5100인가 하는 기종에, 특수한 비밀코드가 있어서 그걸 가지러 왔다고 했는데,
[00:48] <samahui_WS> ㅋㅋ
[00:48] <Work^Seony> 실제 ibm 엔지니어가, 그런거 있다고 고백했죠
[00:48] <samahui_WS> 100만원 정도면 구입가능하죠
[00:48] <samahui_WS> ibm 5100
[00:49] <samahui_WS> 그 모델만의 프로그래밍 코드가 있다고 했죠
[00:49] <Work^Seony> 네 맞아요
[00:49] <Work^Seony> 암튼 그거 가지러 왔다고 했었죠 ㅎㅎ
[00:50] <samahui_WS> 에뮬레이팅 할 생각을 못한거죠...
[00:50] <samahui_WS> ㅎㅎ
[00:51] <Work^Seony> 그게 없으니까 에뮬도 못했을 거에요
[00:51] <Work^Seony> 완전히 없어져서 어떻게 만들어졌는지 전혀 알 수 없다고 했었거든요..
[00:53] <samahui_WS> http://members.aon.at/nkehrer/ibm_5110/emu5110.html
[00:53] <Work^Seony> 오 ㅎㅎㅎ
[00:53] <samahui_WS> 존 티토가 보고 있다면... 잘써라~!!
[00:53] <samahui_WS> ㅎㅎ
[00:54] <Work^Seony> 담달이면 아이폰6s 사는군요 ㅎㅎ
[00:54] <Work^Seony> 사고나서 지금 쓰는 5s 팔아야하는데, 파는거 너무 힘들어요 ㅎㅎ
[00:54] <Work^Seony> 사람 만나고 가서 흥정하고 팔고....
[00:54] <samahui_WS> 특히 신형나오고 얼마 지나지 않은 시기면 더 힘들죠
[00:55] <Work^Seony> 저는 보통 빨리 팔려고 남들보다는 가격을 낮춰서 파는 편이긴 해요
[00:55] <Work^Seony> 근데 그나마도 더 깎을려고 하는 놈들만 우글대니..
[00:55] <autowiz> 그냥 인터넷으로거래하는 방법은 어떤가요? 거기서는 잘 안쓰는 방법일까요?
[00:55] <Work^Seony> 여기서는 안해요
[00:56] <samahui_WS> 전자 기기는 인터넷으로 사면 좀 위험하죠
[00:56] <Work^Seony> 온라인 사기피해를 보상받을 방법이 0%에 가깝거든요
[00:56] <samahui_WS> 저도 직거래 선호합니다
[00:56] <samahui_WS> 그리고 파는 사람 얼굴이나 행동을 보면... 그 기기가 어찌 굴렀을지 상상도 가서 재미있죠
[00:56] <Work^Seony> ㅎㅎㅎ
[01:04] <ipeter> 안녕하세요?
[01:05] <ipeter> 음..
[01:05] <Work^Seony> 안녕하세요
[01:05] <ipeter> 아직 차 이야기가 나오는군요.
[01:05] <ipeter> 저...더 비틀 타고 싶어요!
[01:05] <ipeter> 요즘 살까 말까 고민중입니다.
[01:06] <ipeter> 스타일리쉬 차라서 나이들어 오래타도 될꺼 같고,
[01:06] <Work^Seony> 비틀 별로이지 않나요?
[01:06] <Work^Seony> 비틀 좋다는 분들 못본거 같아요
[01:06] <ipeter> 나이들어서는 그런차 못탈꺼 같아서...지금 아니면 더이상 못탈꺼 같기도 하구요.
[01:06] <ipeter> 네. 별루인데 그런차 끌어보고 싶었어요.ㅠ
[01:08] <Work^Seony> 모양 때문에요?
[01:12] <samahui_WS> 뉴비틀 전 좋은데요
[01:12] <samahui_WS> 탔을때 운전석 머리부위가 높아서 편해요
[01:12] <samahui_WS> ㅎㅎ
[01:13] <samahui_WS> 물론 사라면 안삽니다
[01:14] <Work^Seony> ㅋㅋㅋ
[01:14] <Work^Seony> 기꺼이 살만한 차가 추천할만한 차죠 ㅋ
[01:15] <Work^Seony> 개인적으로 토요타 캠리 추천하고 싶습니다. 미국에서의 제 첫 차였는데, 아주 만족스러웠어요
[01:15] <Work^Seony> 고장도 거의 없었고
[01:15] <samahui_WS> 근데 차 고장은 제품 자체 하자가 있는게 아니라면... 운전자 성향에 크게 좌우된다고 봅니다
[01:16] <samahui_WS> 남들 다 차에 문제 있다고 할때 같은 기종인 제차는 한번도 고장난적이 없거든요 ... 물론 타이어는 자주 터집니다 ㅎㅎ;;
[01:16] <Work^Seony> 복불복이죠 ㅎㅎ
[01:18] <Work^Seony> 조심조심히 몰고다니면 고장 잘 안나겠죠? ㅎㅎ
[01:19] <Work^Seony> 새차 사본게 처음이라, 조심히 모는 중이거든요 ㅎㅎ
[01:27] <ipeter> 흠...
[01:27] <ipeter> 사실 딱 제맘에 드는 차가 없어요.
[01:27] <ipeter> Work^Seony: 모양때문에도 맞습니다.
[01:27] <ipeter> ㅠㅠ
[01:27] <ipeter> 하긴 비틀 살바에 쉐비 임팔라도 가능한데요.
[01:28] <Work^Seony> 임팔라면 중대형이죠?
[01:33] <samahui_WS> 임팔라는 슈퍼네추럴이라는 미드에서 딘이 타는 차라는... 이쁘죠 ㅎㅎ;;
[01:33] <samahui_WS> 임팔라 중대형일겁니다
[01:33] <samahui_WS> 새로 나온거 봤는데 말리브보다 큰거 같던데요
[01:33] <Work^Seony> ㅎㅎ 하지만 오늘자 트루카에서 발표한, 미국에서 중고차 밸류가 가장 높은 차로는 스바루와 랜드로버가 1위 먹었네요
[01:33] <Work^Seony> 제가 이번에 새로 산 차가 스바루인데, 역시 공부하고 사길 잘했군요 ㅋ
[01:33] <samahui_WS> 역시 랜드로버... 제 다음차로 가장 유력.... 하려했으나 랜지로버가 더 이쁘네요
[01:34] <samahui_WS> 하지만 현실은... 아내의 반발로 차를 바꾸지 못하는데...
[01:34] <samahui_WS> 아내님 출산하러 병원들어가면 확 지를까 싶지도 해요 ㅎㅎ;;
[01:34] <Work^Seony> 둘째요?
[01:34] <samahui_WS> 넵
[01:34] <autowiz> 확 질렀다가 확 맞는수가 ㅠㅠ
[01:35] <ipeter> 네.
[01:35] <samahui_WS> 확 지르고 애 데리고 퇴원하실때 태우러 가는거죠 편하지? 너랑 둘째 첫째 다 타려고 차 바꿔써~ 승요차는 불편하자나~ 어때? 좋취??? 응? 퍽!!!
[01:35] <ipeter> 레인지로버 이보크도 사고 싶어요
[01:36] <ipeter> Work^Seony: 준대형 맞습니다.
[01:36] <ipeter> 그랜저보다 커요.
[01:36] <samahui_WS> 퍽퍽퍽!!!! 계속 밟히는중... 퍽퍽퍽!!!!
[01:36] <ipeter> 근데 큰차는 운전도 불편하고...그냥 레인지로버 이보크 사고 싶은데 문제는 역시 돈입니다.
[01:36] <ipeter> ㅋㅋㅋ
[01:37] <samahui_WS> 전 저렴하게 구입할 곳이 있어서 둘러봤는데 결정을 못내리겠어요... 저렴해도 가격이 가격인지라
[01:39] <ipeter> 어엇
[01:39] <ipeter> 이보크 얼마까지 알아보셨어요?
[01:39] <ipeter> 이보크는 별루시죠?
[01:39] <Work^Seony> ㅎㅎ
[01:40] <Work^Seony> 이보크는 뭐에요?'
[01:40] <ipeter> Work^Seony: http://auto.naver.com/car/main.nhn?yearsId=60629
[01:41] <autowiz> 랜드로버 컴팩트 SUV 가격은 1억 초반대
[01:42] <samahui_WS> 랜드로버 알아봤는데요... 1억 안되게 알아봤어요
[01:42] <Work^Seony> 아~ 이거구나..
[01:42] <samahui_WS> 이보크는 훨 싸던데요
[01:42] <Work^Seony> 미국에서는 보통 42,000에 팔리는 차네요
[01:42] <samahui_WS> 이쁜건 더 이쁘죠
[01:42] <Work^Seony> 아주 비싸진 않구나
[01:42] <samahui_WS> 아주 비싸요
[01:42] <Work^Seony> 한국 가격이 좀 비싸군요
[01:42] <Work^Seony> 블루북 평가는 그냥저냥이네요
[01:43] <samahui_WS> 근데 보면 이쁘죠 ㅎㅎ
[01:43] <samahui_WS> 시승해보고 운전하기 편한거로 해야지 그냥은 못사겠어요... 모하비가 맘에 들었었는데 이상하게 요즘 국산이 안끌려요
[01:43] <samahui_WS> 아내는 국산으로 사라는디... 사는건 제 맘인지라 ㅎㅎ;
[01:44] <samahui_WS> 물론 맞을까 겁나서 살짜쿵 눈치보고 있습니다
[01:44] <Work^Seony> 차에 대해 잘 모르면 보통 국산 사라고 하죠
[01:44] <autowiz> 스포티지 신형이라던가
[01:44] <autowiz> RV 는 별로이실거 같고
[01:44] <samahui_WS> ㅎㅎ 울 아내차는 쏘울입니다 ㅋ
[01:44] <Work^Seony> 제 여동생도 얼마 전에 새차 샀는데, 사기 전에는 걍 현대차 사려고 했다네요
[01:44] <samahui_WS> 단지 이쁘다고 그거 사달래서 사줬죠
[01:44] <samahui_WS> 차를 알고 모르고는 없고 단지 이쁘고 안이쁘고만 있어요
[01:44] <samahui_WS> ㅡ,.ㅡ ;;
[01:44] <autowiz> 서니님 여동생 느님이 계셨어 ㅎㅎㅎ
[01:44] <Work^Seony> 네 글쵸 ㅋㅋ
[01:45] <Work^Seony> ㅎㅎ 제 나이대를 생각하시면, 여동생이 이미 애엄마라는 점을 유추할 수 있죠
[01:46] <samahui_WS> 나이만으로는 모르죠... 전 누님이 계시지만... 결혼도 안하고 자신의 커리어만 쌓고 계신데요
[01:46] <samahui_WS> 후딱 갔으면 싶어요
[01:46] <Work^Seony> 흐 그렇군요
[01:46] <ipeter> 휴...
[01:46] <ipeter> 모두들 부자시군요.
[01:46] <ipeter> ㅠㅠ
[01:46] <ipeter> 좋은차 타고 싶어요.
[01:46] <ipeter> 근데 그거 사면
[01:46] <ipeter> 결혼할 돈이 없어질것 같아요.
[01:46] <Work^Seony> 클리앙에서 어떤 사람이, 78만 뛴 택시 타봤다네요 ㅎㅎ
[01:47] <ipeter> 가정(여자) vs 차
[01:47] <ipeter> 헉. 차 관리 정말 잘하시네요.
[01:47] <Work^Seony> 둘 중 하나라면, 저라면 가정을 먼저 선택합니다
[01:47] <ipeter> 헙
[01:47] <Work^Seony> 차는, 계약서에 싸인한 순간부터 중고차 되는 거에요
[01:47] <ipeter> Work^Seony: 새겨듣겠습니다.
[01:47] <ipeter> samahui_WS: 빨리 소개시켜주시라구요!!!
[01:47] <Work^Seony> 가정은, 결혼하는 순간부터 제 2의 인생을 시작하는 거구요
[01:47] <autowiz> 남자도 사인하는순간 품절남이 되지만서두 ㅋㅋ
[01:47] <ipeter> ㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋ
[01:48] <samahui_WS> 결혼과 차 함께 하는겁니다
[01:48] <ipeter> 오즈님 여친 있으시니까 좀 빠져주십시오.(버럭)
[01:48] <ipeter> ㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋ
[01:48] <samahui_WS> 차있으면 없는것보다 연애하기 쉬우니까요
[01:48] <ipeter> 부러워요 오즈님
[01:48] <autowiz> 맘이 맞는사람이랑 결혼하고 싶은 ㅠㅠ
[01:48] <Work^Seony> 차 없어도 행복해하는 여성을 만나세요 ㅎㅎ
[01:48] <samahui_WS> 반대로 여친있으면 차사라고 압박을 받아 사게되죠
[01:48] <ipeter> ㅋㅋㅋㅋ
[01:48] <Work^Seony> 그런 여성이라면 안봐도 며느리감입니다 ㅋㅋ
[01:48] <ipeter> 아이고 이분들 놀리시느라 여념이 없으시군요.
[01:48] <ipeter> ㅋㅋㅋㅋ
[01:48] <ipeter> 결혼과 차... 돈이 너무 없네요..ㅠ
[01:48] <Work^Seony> 저도 결혼할 때 차 없었어요
[01:49] <Work^Seony> 아니, 연애할 때도 없었어요'
[01:49] <autowiz> 차를 싼걸로 사세요 첫차이기도 하니까 많이 긁어 먹습니다.
[01:49] <autowiz> 그러니까 중고차 한 300 만원정도 근처로다가
[01:49] <samahui_WS> 저도 결혼할때 차가 없었어요... 회사차를 몰았죠
[01:49] <ipeter> 그래서 비틀 사고 싶어요.
[01:49] <samahui_WS> 전 운전 싫어해요
[01:49] <samahui_WS> 애땜시 차를 몰게 되더군요
[01:49] <ipeter> 휴...
[01:49] <Work^Seony> 저도 운전 싫어요 ㅎㅎ
[01:49] <samahui_WS> 그리고 지금은 버스 전철타기 싫어요
[01:49] <samahui_WS> ㅎㅎ
[01:49] <Work^Seony> 스트레스 받습니다
[01:49] <ipeter> 소프트웨어 질렀어요.
[01:49] <samahui_WS> 애 데리고 전철 버스 못타겠어요
[01:49] <ipeter> 대략 한화 55000원 하네요.
[01:49] <ipeter> 49불
[01:49] <autowiz> 저는 스피드를 즐기는지라 ㅠㅠ
[01:50] <samahui_WS> 스피드를 제대로 즐기시려면 경비행기의 세계로...
[01:50] <samahui_WS> 우리나라같이 도로 사정 않좋은 곳에서 스피드 내면 사고만 나요
[01:50] <samahui_WS> 차라리 넓은 하늘로 달리시는겁니다
[01:50] <autowiz> 경비행기가 속도감이 또 있나요?
[01:50] <samahui_WS> 차보다 났지 않을까요
[01:51] <autowiz> 실제속도는 빠르지만 거리가 머니까 속도감 자체는 떨어질것도 같아서요
[01:51] <Work^Seony> 경비행기는 속도감보다는 공포감이... ㅋ
[01:51] <samahui_WS> 아니면... 제트스키로 바다나 강을 달리세요
[01:51] <autowiz> 위아리로 오르락 내리락 ㅎㅎ
[01:51] <samahui_WS> 하긴 비행기는 저도 속도감이 무서운게 아니라 높아서 무서워하죠
[01:51] <samahui_WS> ㅜㅜ
[01:51] <samahui_WS> 고소공포증이 살짝 있어서 비행기타면 꼭! 창가를 피하게 되더군요
[01:52] <samahui_WS> 비행기 몰면서 위아래윗윗아래~
[01:52] <samahui_WS> 무중력을 경험하시는겁니까???!!!
[01:53] <autowiz> 아 비행기를 몰면 확실히 2D 세상에서 3D 세상으로 갈 수 있겠네요
[01:53] <samahui_WS> 그러고보니 궁금한데 저 아래 k1 경기장 지어 놓은건 일반인이 몰고 달릴 수 있나요???
[01:53] <samahui_WS> ㅎㅎ
[01:53] <autowiz> K1 ? F1 ?
[01:53] <samahui_WS> 완벽한 3D 세계죠
[01:53] <samahui_WS> f1
[01:53] <samahui_WS> gg
[01:53] <samahui_WS> ㅎㅎ
[01:53] <autowiz> F1 서킷 개방할껍니다. 돈 얼마내고 예약하면 자기차로도 몰 아 볼 수 있는걸로 알고 있습니다.
[01:54] <samahui_WS> 괜찮네요
[01:54] <samahui_WS> 멀어서 안되겠지만...
[01:54] <samahui_WS> 근처살면 한번씩 스트레스 받았을때 달릴만 하겠는데요
[01:54] <autowiz> 제 생각엔 너무 먼곳에 지은거 같은 ㅠㅠ
[01:54] <samahui_WS> 제 생각에도 경기도에만 지었어도 적자는 면했을겁니다
[01:54] <autowiz> 그러게요 민간인들도 많이들 이용할텐데
[01:54] <samahui_WS> 물론 지금처럼 주변 상인이나 업소들이 바가지 경쟁도 벌이지 않았을까 싶지만요
[01:55] <samahui_WS> 아니면... 이탈리아나 마카오처럼... 도시 일부를 개조 하던가요 ㅎㅎ;;
[01:56] <samahui_WS> 아내가 오늘 병원가보자네요
[01:56] <samahui_WS> 애가 좀 크고 연속 출산이라고 너무 내려앉았으면 유도분만 하고 싶은거 같네요
[01:57] <autowiz> 사마휘님 오늘 아침엔 운전해서 출근하셨어요?
[01:57] <samahui_WS> 넵
[01:57] <samahui_WS> 운전했습니다
[01:57] <samahui_WS> 아내차로
[01:57] <samahui_WS> 어제 차를 놓고 왔어요 이명과 머리아픔땜시 ㅜㅜ
[01:57] <samahui_WS> 병원 데려다 주러 외출해야겠네요
[01:58] <autowiz> 운전조심하시구요~
[01:58] <autowiz> 다녀오십시요~~
[01:58] <samahui_WS> 아직 안가요
[01:58] <samahui_WS> ㅎㅎ
[01:58] <samahui_WS> 오후에 갈겁니다 오전에 일 많아요
[01:58] <autowiz> 아 ㅋㅋ 지금 롸잇나우 가시는줄 착각을
[01:58] <Work^Seony> ㅎㅎ
[01:58] <samahui_WS> ㅎㅎ
[01:59] <autowiz> 어허 포테토님은 오늘도 오전에 안보이시네요
[02:01] <ipeter> 아, 이거 어플리케이션 설치하면 맥 바탕화면 위에 외장하드 디스크처럼 나타나는 아이콘은 왜 생기는지 아시나요?
[02:01] <ipeter> 이거 당췌 정말 알수가 없네요.
[02:01] <ipeter> 아..맥 어려워요.
[02:03] <ipeter> bbb
[02:03] <ipeter> ㅠㅠㅠㅠㅠ
[02:03] <autowiz> 울디마세욤~~
[02:07] <ipeter> 울꺼예요 울꺼예요!!!!!!!!!!
[02:27] <Work^Seony> bluedusk, 제 linkedin 뉴스에 프로필 업데이트하셨다고 뜨네요 ㅎㅎ
[02:27] <Work^Seony> 음 근데, 경력사항을 거꾸로 적으셨군요...
[02:28] <Work^Seony> 최근에 한걸 가장 위에 적어야하는데
[02:28] <Work^Seony> ldap 서버 통합작업도 하셨군요...
[02:39] <ipeter> 휴. 아마존 프라임에서 제가 99달러 결제 되었다고 문자와서 카드사에 전화하고 난리 났었네요.
[02:40] <ipeter> 근데 알아보니 정상결제된거 맞다고 해서 아마존 사이트 들어가봤더니
[02:40] <ipeter> 아마존 프라임에 오늘 자동가입되는거였습니다.
[02:40] <ipeter> 일단 캔슬 시켜놓고 리펀드 기다려야겠네요.
[02:40] <ipeter> 섬짓했습니다.
[02:40] <autowiz> 허얼~
[02:43] <ahoops> 안녕하세요.
[02:44] <autowiz> 안녕하세요~~
[02:44] <autowiz> 오랜만에 뵙습니다. 잘 지내시지요?
[02:44] <ahoops> 네 덕분에 잘지내고있습니다 ^^;
[02:45] <ahoops> 종종 와서 수다좀 떨어야하는데, 생각처럼 잘 안되는군요 ㅋ
[02:46] <samahui_WS> ahoops 님 오랜만에 뵙습니다 ㅎㅎ
[02:46] <samahui_WS> 안녕하셨어요?
[02:47] <ahoops> samahui_WS: 그냥 지내가고있습니다 ㅋ
[02:47] <samahui_WS> ㅎㅎ 건강하신듯하여 다행입니다 ㅎㅎ
[02:47] <ahoops> 정신차리면;; 한두달 지나가있고 그러네요;
[02:47] <samahui_WS> 안타깝게도 전 오늘 일이있어서 나갔다 와야해요 ㅎㅎ 점심먹고 병원댕겨오겠습니다... 나중에 뵈요
[02:48] <ahoops> 네 댕겨오세용 ㅋ
[02:48] <samahui_WS> 그럼 나중에 뵈요 ^^
[02:50] <autowiz> 일이 바쁘신거지요? 다른 별일은 없으시지요? ㅠㅠ
[02:50] <ahoops> 생각해보니 한동안 컴퓨터보다 밥통을 더 자주 만지고 지냈군요
[02:50] <ahoops> 별일은 없었어요 그냥 좀 돌아댕기고 그랫어요;;
[02:50] <ahoops> 어딜가도 챙겨가는 쿠쿠밥통;;
[02:52] <ahoops> 예전부터 생각만하고 안하고 있었는데 할일이 좀 생겼습니다.
[02:54] <ahoops> 여친림께서 작은 구멍가게를 하고 계시다가 이번에 큰자리?로 옴겨서 구멍가게를 하신다는데요..
[02:54] <autowiz> 좋은 소식이군요.
[02:54] <autowiz> 어쩌면 쿠쿠 밥통이 하나더 필요하실지도
[02:54] <ahoops> 바쁘다고 밥도 잘안해줘서 제가 합니다 ㅠ
[02:54] <ahoops> 어쩌다 상황이 이리된건지;;
[02:55] <ahoops> 근데 바코드를 사용하고 싶어라하더라구요.
[02:56] <ahoops> 바코드자체야 하나사서 어찌어찌 진행하면 되긴하겠는데요.
[02:57] <autowiz> 바코드 프린터 , 리더, 제품관리 소프트웨어
[02:57] <ahoops> 문제는, 전기가 잘 나가기때문에 태블릿같은걸로 서너시간 전기나가도 버틸수있어야한다는게 조건에요.
[02:57] <PotatoGim> autowiz: 어제 새벽까지 불코딩을 하느라...
[02:57] <autowiz> 서니님~~ 퇴근하셨나요?
[02:57] <autowiz> 포테토님 오셨어요 ㅋㅋㅋ
[02:57] <PotatoGim> 점심 먹고 오후에 뵙겠습니다..ㅜ
[02:58] <ahoops> autowiz: 네, 그거 다 해줘야할듯해요 ㅠ;;
[02:58] <PotatoGim> 아, 폰으로도 irccloud 쓰는 중이니 편하게 남겨주시면 됩니다~
[02:58] <ahoops> PotatoGim: 안녕하세요 (__)
[02:58] <autowiz> 바코드 리더기는 앱으로 구현하실런지 핸드건으로 하실런지 모르겠는데
[02:58] <autowiz> 핸드건 방식은 정말 별거 없긴 합니다. 그낭 꾹 누르면 키보드로 숫자 입력하듯이 숫자가 주주죽 인풋으로 들어옵니다.
[02:58] <ahoops> 블루투스 리더기같은거 하나 살까해요.
[02:59] <ahoops> 네..그냥 키보드에서 치는것처럼 걍 숫자 들어오죠?
[02:59] <autowiz> 아흑
[02:59] <ahoops> 문제는 전기 ㅠ
[02:59] <autowiz> 고문님께서 식사하자고 하시네요
[03:00] <autowiz> 핸드폰에다가 올려놓고
[03:00] <autowiz> 배터리 갈아 낄 수 있는모델을 찾으시거나 수시로 충전할 수 있게
[03:01] <ahoops> 밧데리 큰놈에 ups정도가 그냥 답일려나요.
[03:21] <autowiz> 충전거치대 달린놈 이라던가
[03:21] <autowiz> 샤오미 보조 배터리 ㅎㅎㅎ
[03:36] <autowiz> 얼마전에 오래된 친구들을 만났습니다.
[03:36] <autowiz> 몇몇은 3년만에 몇몇은 거의 10년만에
[03:37] <autowiz> 그래도 별로 서먹하거나 하진 않더군요 ㅎㅎ
[03:37] <autowiz> 이런 저런 얘기를 하다가 , 한 친구의 인생관이 재미가 있어서 살짝 이야기 해보려 합니다.
[03:38] <autowiz> 가장 재미있는부분이 잔머리 굴리지 말자는 건데... 우선 다른 사람을 대할때 모두 나보다 머리가 똑똑하다고 생각한답니다. 그게 맘이 편하고 그래야 쓸데없는 꽤를 안부리게되고
[03:39] <autowiz> 대부분의 경우 그게 최선으로 작용한다고 하더군요. 벌써 수년째 일식당에서 칼을 잡고 있는데 1~2년후엔 개업할꺼 같다고 합니다.
[03:40] <autowiz> 친구를 대할때도 손님을 대할때도 솔찍하고 밝은 모습만 보여주는 그놈 살짜기 그리운 비오는 오후 입니다.
[04:37] <ipeter> 밥을 먹고 왔는데..
[04:37] <ipeter> 요리사가 제가 먹는밥에 수면제를 탔네요.
[04:37] <ipeter> 무척이나 졸립습니다.
[05:02] <ipeter> System76
[05:02] <ipeter> 와. 처음 들었습니다.
[05:02] <ipeter> Work^Seony: 좋은 브랜드인가요?
[05:03] <ipeter> 램을 ddr4 64기가까지 업글한다는게 신세계네요.
[05:10] <bluedusk> 헐 64기가...
[05:15] <autowiz> 64기가 정도야 뭐...
[05:17] <PotatoGim> 음... 저희 쓰는 VM 장비도 128기가...
[05:19] <ipeter> 헙.
[05:19] <ipeter> ㅠ
[05:19] <ipeter> 죄송합니다.
[05:20] <ipeter> 조용히 일하고 오겠습니다..ㅠ
[05:22] <autowiz> dell 장남감 서버 메모리 64기가 제 피시 32 기가 16기가
[05:23] <autowiz> 대형사이트 서버들 메모리 수백기가 등등 다만 조그만 사이트는 서버들 메모리가 2기가 4기가 ㄷㄷㄷ 정말 후덜덜덜
[05:23] <autowiz> 스토리지나 가상화 같은경우에는 메모리를 정말 처묵처묵 하니까요 ㅎㅎ
[05:25] <PotatoGim> ZFS 같은 경우에는 메모리 먹는 괴물이라..ㅎㅎ
[05:29] <autowiz> 포테토님도 제가 싫으신거군요
[05:29] <autowiz> 모두모두 나를 싫어하는 하~
[05:43] <autowiz> 음냐음냐...
[05:43] <autowiz> 내일 온다는 면접다는 또 펑크를내는군요... 제가 문제인건가요 ㅠㅠ
[05:44] <autowiz> 솔루션 대쉬보드 랑 설정 화면 만들어주실 분 찾습니다 . 풀타임도 괜찮고 두달정도 알바도 괜찮습니다.
[05:48] <autowiz> 주변에라도 조금 시간나시는분들 계시면 연결 부탁드립니다.
[05:48] <autowiz> 대쉬보드 http://www.cyfe.com/images/dashboard-social.png 대략 이런식 하나 랑
[05:48] <autowiz> 실시간_로그표출 , 통계_출력, DNS설정 , 시스템_설정 페이지 정도 될거 같습니다.
[07:38] <HolyKnight> 옥히에서 단가 500 중급구인글 올라왔네유
[07:39] <autowiz__> 링크좀 주심시요 굽신굽신
[08:04] <jun__> 거의 일주일만에 들어왔습니다~ 캬캬캬~ 안녕하십니까~?
[08:11] <jun__> ipeter: 이대 박물관은 도대체 어디있는건가요..? ㅎㅎㅎ
[08:20] <ipeter> 어엇?!
[08:20] <ipeter> 정문으로 들어오셔서 정문을 등지고 오시다보면
[08:20] <ipeter> 우측편에 ECC가 보일거예요.
[08:20] <autowiz> 드디어 오늘은 박물관 가는건가요 ㅎㅎㅎ
[08:20] <ipeter> 그 맞은편을 보시면 하얀 건물이 있는데
[08:21] <ipeter> 그것이 박물관입니다.
[08:21] <ipeter> 아니면!
[08:21] <ipeter> 예쁜 학생에게 물어보세요!
[08:21] <ipeter> 근데 지금쯤 박물관 닫았을 듯 싶은데요.
[08:22] <jun__> 아... 이대에 들어가야하는거군요;;;;
[08:23] <jun__> 이대역에 내려서 박물관이 어디있는지 막 찾다가... 모르겠다 싶어서 그냥 신촌으로 넘어왔거든요 -_-;;
[08:23] <autowiz> 박물관은 다음 기회에 ? ㅋㅋㅋ
[08:29] <jun__> ㅜㅜ 다음기회에....
[08:29] <jun__> 이대를 혼자서 지나갈 용기가 없는데요;;
[08:30] <autowiz> 피터님 만나서 같이 가면 되지요 ㅎㅎㅎ
[08:30] <jun__> ㅎㅎㅎㅎ 평일 오후시간에 나와주실런지.....
[08:31] <autowiz> 으음...
[08:31] <jun__> 일하고 계신분을 호출하는게 쉽지는 않잖아요 ㅎㅎㅎ
[08:44] <jun__> 이번주 월요일에 제대로 멘붕이 온 이후로 회복이 잘 안되네요 ㅜㅜ
[08:47] <pchero_work> 멘붕이요?
[08:47] <autowiz> 누구야 누가 우리 준이 맨붕 먹인거야 !!!
[08:51] <jun__> LGU+ 안양지점에 이모부장있습니다;;
[08:51] <jun__> 월요일 아침 8시반에 들어가서 다음날 새벽 5시에 나왔어요 ㅜㅜ
[08:52] <jun__> autowiz: 형 언제쯤 출발하시나요..?? 저는 지금 신촌에 있습니다~
[08:52] <autowiz> 좀 오래 있었네 ㅠㅠ
[08:52] <autowiz> 18시 05분 출발 예정 ㅋ
[08:52] <jun__> 네~
[08:55] <jun__> autowiz: 해민이가 자꾸 저녁에 맥도날드 먹으라고 난리인데요 ㅎㅎ
[08:55] <autowiz> 먹으면 돼지 ㅋㅋ
[08:56] <jun__> 전 밥이땡겨요 ㅎㅎㅎ
[08:56] <autowiz> 오늘 하루만 참아 아니면 집에가서 밥 또먹으면 되지 ㅋㅋ
[08:56] <jun__> 해민이 오늘 좀 늦는다니까
[08:56] <jun__> 형 오시면 같이 저녁먹으려고했죠 ㅎㅎ
[08:57] <autowiz> 응 기다리고 있어 같이 맥도날드 먹자 ㅋㅋㅋㅋ
[08:57] <autowiz> 너 시켜서 먹을때 인형 3개 사고
[08:57] <autowiz> 나 시킬때 인형 3개 사고
[08:58] <autowiz> 안녕하세요~
[08:58] <jun__> ㅎㅎㅎㅎ 오늘만 피규어 6개가 생기겠군요 ㅎㅎㅎ
[09:01] <ircCloud^Seony> 음... 라즈곤님 안오시려나
[09:56] <MENT> http://www.yonhapnews.co.kr/video/2621000001.html?cid=MYH20151118011500800&in=naver2
[09:56] <MENT> 컥
[10:13] <Ferendevelop> 이상한 놈들 많네요.
[11:38] <MENT> 그러게요
[13:45] <autowiz> 냐냥
[13:53] <Demonion> ㅎㅇㅇ
[14:22] <autowiz> 안뇽하세요~~
[14:32] <samahui_WS> 둘째는 다음주에나 볼 수 있겠군요
[14:33] <samahui_WS> 자동차는 내년에난 볼 수 있겠군요. 절충안으로 내년 초 나오는 신형 모하비 보고 그걸 살지 아니면 그냥 레인지로버나 랜드로버를 살지... 정하자네요. 그래도 아내도 차 바꿀때가 되어
[14:33] <samahui_WS> 간다는 걸 느끼기 시작한듯 합니다... 물론 바꿀때 안되었지만 이거저거 가져다붙여서 사고 위험이 엄청난 상태의 차인냥 제차를 치장했군요 ㅎㅎ;;
[14:33] <autowiz> ㅎㅎㅎ 수고하셨습니다 ㅎㅎ
[14:34] <samahui_WS> 근디 솔직히 폼도나고 장거리 뛸때는 좋은차가 좋은데... 그냥 시내 돌아다니는건 오히려 작은 아내차가 편하더군요
[14:34] <samahui_WS> 무엇보다 ... 우니라난 주차땜시 더 그렇네요
[14:34] <samahui_WS> 병원 댕기오면서 느꼈습니다... 차 크면 주차타워에도 잘 안넣어주는군요
[14:36] <samahui_WS> 피곤하시다더니 오늘도 야근하시는군요
[14:36] <samahui_WS> 후딱 들어가세요
[14:36] <samahui_WS> 몸부터 챙기실 나이십니다 ㅎㅎ;;
[14:43] <autowiz> 아닙니다 아닙니다 저는 아직 어립니다 ㅎㅎㅎ (최면을 거는중 ... )
[14:44] <samahui_WS> 저도 아직 어립니다
[14:44] <samahui_WS> 마음만은 언제나 20대 입니다
[14:45] <samahui_WS> 몸도 열심히 운동해서 20대... 이면 좋은데 ... 잦은 밤샘과 가끔의 폭음으로 40대에 가까운... OTL
[14:46] <samahui_WS> 배나온거 까지하면 50일지... 아니아니 아닙니다 그래도 20대... (현실부정)
[14:57] <samahui_WS> 내일뵈요
[14:58] <samahui_WS> 전 자고 와서 일해야겠어요 ㅎㅎ;;
[18:44] <Work^Seony> 안녕하세요
[18:47] <samahui> 안녕하세요~
[18:47] <samahui> 출근하셨군요
[18:48] <Work^Seony> 네 아직 야근 중이세요?
[18:48] <samahui> 자다왔어요 ㅎㅎ
[18:48] <samahui> 어제 오후에 집사람 병원 다녀와서 밥묵고 일 좀 하다가 그대로 졸려서 쪽잠을 2시까지 잤어요 ㅎㅎ
[18:48] <Work^Seony> 아 그렇군요..
[18:49] <Work^Seony> 저는 2일 전부터인가 대변을 보면 변기가 완전 포도쥬스 들이부은 것마냥 피바다가 되어버려서 좀 걱정되네요
[18:49] <samahui> 색이 검은가요?
[18:50] <samahui> 검은거 아니면 보통은 치질 비스무리한거라 크게 걱정하지 말라더군요
[18:50] <samahui> 붉을수록 안전하답니다. 속이 아픈게 아니라 ㅎㅎ;;
[18:50] <Work^Seony> 변 색깔 자체는 괜찮아요
[18:51] <Work^Seony> 피가 철철 흘러나와서 문제죠 ㅎㅎ
[18:51] <Work^Seony> 혈관이 터진 것마냥 피가 새는 거 같아요
[18:51] <samahui> 네 그럼 치질이나 치핵이나 아니면 경미하게 항문파열이 온거 같네요
[18:51] <samahui> 병원을 가보시면 금방 나으실겁니다
[18:52] <Work^Seony> 흐.. 결국 병원을 가야겠군요
[18:52] <Work^Seony> 여기서 병원가는게 좀 번거로워서, 왠만하면 안가려고 했거든요
[18:52] <samahui> 변이 나오면서 상처를 벌려서 피가 나는거라 일안볼때도 나오는 치질이나 치핵보다는 그냥 항문에 살짝 파열이나 상처가 난걸겁니다
[18:53] <samahui> 몇이 두고보셔도 될거예요
[18:53] <samahui> 저도 그런적 있는데 전 그때 몇일간 일땜시 일을 못보다 크게 사고쳤죠 ㅎㅎ;;
[18:53] <samahui> 덕분에 찢어져서 피범벅... 다행이 병원가니 그냥 좌약하나 넣어주고 끝이였어요
[18:54] <Work^Seony> 그렇군요. 일단 저는 특별한 통증은 없어요
[18:54] <samahui> 네 저도 통증은 없었어요
[18:54] <Work^Seony> 대변 볼 때 어디가 아프다거나 뭐 그런건 아니구요, 처음부터 피가 나오는 것도 아니고..
[18:54] <Work^Seony> 걍 보다보면 피가 나오더라구요
[18:54] <samahui> 네 그렇게 일다보고 나면 변기가 붉게 물들죠?
[18:55] <Work^Seony> ㅎㅎ 그렇죠
[18:55] <samahui> 똑같은데요 ㅎㅎ 전 그때 3일정도 갔던거 같아요
[18:55] <samahui> 아무튼 크게 걱정할 병은 아닐겁니다
[18:55] <Work^Seony> 흐.. 그렇군요. 일단 1주일 정도 지켜보고나서 계속 그러면 병원에 가야겠습니다.
[18:56] <samahui> 먹는걸 좀 줄여서 변의 크기를 줄이는것도 방법입니다... 아니면 물을 많이 먹어서 묽게...
[18:56] <samahui> 나오면서 상처를 벌려놓는거라서요
[18:56] <Work^Seony> 하긴 그러고보면 제가 물을 잘 안마시긴 해요
[18:58] <samahui> 확실히 물은 많이 자주 마실수록 좋은거 같아요...
[18:59] <Work^Seony> 어디선가 본건데,
[18:59] <Work^Seony> 신장이 좋지않은 사람은 물을 많이 마시는 것이 건강을 해치는 거라고 하더라구요
[18:59] <samahui> 그럴수도 있겠네요
[19:03] <samahui> 전 이따가 낮에 올께요
[22:18] <autowiz> 저는 간혹 술마시고 그런적이 두어번 있어서 ㅠㅠ 술땜에 위에 구멍난줄알고 많이 부서웠는데
[22:19] <autowiz> 너무 시뻘개서 위나 장은 아닌거 같고 , 한번은 어 피나내 하고 신경 안썼는데 한번 밖에 안그랬었구요.
[22:20] <Work^Seony> 그렇군요
[22:20] <Work^Seony> 저도 며칠 두고봐야겠어요
[22:20] <autowiz> 최근엔 두번인가 새번 연속으로 그래서 이틀정도 식음을 전폐하다시피 했었습니다 .
[22:21] <autowiz> 병원은 저는 무서워서 안가긴 했네요 ㅎㅎ
[22:21] <Work^Seony> 저도 무서워요 ㅎㅎ
[22:22] <autowiz> 정말 오만생각이 다 들면서 대장암인가 하는 생각도 들고 ㅋㅋ
[22:23] <autowiz> 근데 40넘어가면 몇년에 한번씩 위 랑 대장은 내시경 받아보라고들 하잖아요. 초기에 치료하는게 더 나으니까.. 조금 일찍 가신다 생각하시고 한번 다녀오시는것도 ㅠㅠ
[22:25] <Work^Seony> ㅋㅋ
[22:25] <Work^Seony> 일단 한 1주일만 지켜보려구요
[22:25] <Work^Seony> 제가 혈압이 많이 높아서, 분명 병원 가면 이거갖고 뭐라할거 뻔하거든요 ㅎㅎ
[22:29] <autowiz> 그러게요 혈압이라는게 사람마다 다를 수 있다고 하더라구요
[22:29] <Work^Seony> 네 그렇기도 하고, 울나라에는 선천적 고혈압이 많다네요
[22:30] <Work^Seony> 근데 그게 알려진 것과 다르게, 고혈압이라고해서 위험하다거나 그런건 아니라고 하는거 같아요
[22:31] <autowiz> 드라마보면 많이 나오잖아요 , 갑자기 충격 먹고 뒷목잡고 쓰러지는경우 대부분 혈관이 터지는거 보다는
[22:32] <autowiz> 혈관이 막히는경우가 아닐까 싶기도 하고
[22:32] <Work^Seony> 그건 고혈압이랑 다른 걸껄요
[22:32] <autowiz> 요즘 의학드라마 보면서 ... 아 저도 의사의 길로 갈 껄 하는 되도않은 망상을 해봅니다 .ㅋㅋ
[22:32] <Work^Seony> 다만, 제가 혈당이 좀 높은 편이긴 한데, 1일1식하고 운동 시작한 이후로 재본적이 없어서 좀 궁금하긴 하네요
[22:34] <autowiz> 그럼 혈당 측정하는거 가지고 계세요?
[22:35] <Work^Seony> 아뇨 하나 살까 했었는데, 물건이나 딸려오는 부가품들이 너무 종류가 많아서 뭐가뭔지 몰라서 못샀어요
[22:38] <autowiz> 가끔 그냥 바쁜체로 살때는 잘 못느끼던것들이 조용히 천천히 생각해보면 . 아~ 예전보다는 많이 바꼈구나 하는 생각이 들때가 있는거 같습니다.
[22:39] <Work^Seony> 사람 몸이나 기계나 마찬가지인거 같아요
[22:40] <autowiz> 몇년 지나면 매트릭스 처럼 사람 몸속에 로봇을 넣어서 건강 측정이나 특정 작업에 도움을 주는 세상이 오지 않을까 하는 생각도 들구요
[22:40] <autowiz> 덤으로 그 로봇은 무선충전으로 고고싱
[22:40] <Work^Seony> 나노로봇을 체내에 주입해서 걔네들이 몸을 돌아댕기면서 문제가 되는 부분을 치료하는 쪽이 요즘 이슈인거 같아요
[22:41] <autowiz> 나노 테크 관련 글 보니까 자동차 색깔을 실시간으로 바꿀 수 있게도 할 수 있다더군요 멋진거 같습니다.
[22:43] <autowiz> 사람 몸속에 들어가는 치료룡 나노봇의 경우 잘만 되면 꾀나 획기적인 변화를 줄 걱 같습니다. 피부를 찟고 하는 수술은 아무래도 부작용 우려가 어느정도 있는거 같더라구요
[22:44] <Work^Seony> 글쵸. 예전에 본건데, 나노봇을 주입시키면 체내 면역시스템이 이걸 이물질로 판단해서 공격하는 부분을 무력화시키는 것을 연구 중이라고 봤어요
[23:09] <autowiz> 기계식 키보드를 하나 더 살까 합니다. 다음달 혹은 다다음달
[23:09] <Work^Seony> 잉? 또요?
[23:09] <Work^Seony> 키보드 많으면 좀 번거롭지 않나요? ㅎㅎ
[23:09] <autowiz> 적축을 하나더 살지 다른 축을 한번 써볼지 고민중인데 ... 아직 한달 혹은 두달남았는데 너무 빨리 고민하는걸가요?
[23:10] <autowiz> 책상에 키보드 딱 두개가 필요한데
[23:10] <autowiz> 하나가 좀 커서 작은놈으로 바꿀까 생각중입니다.
[23:10] <Work^Seony> 하긴 저는 컴퓨터가 한 대 뿐이라, 키보드도 하나 이상 필요하지가 않군요
[23:13] <autowiz> http://www.coupang.com/np/products/98187754 여기서 선택 6-2 , 기계식 10키리스 가 7만원인데
[23:14] <autowiz> 다나와에서는 10만원 이네요 라고 쓸려고 했는데 ㅠㅠ 잘못봤네요
[23:16] <autowiz> 다나와에선 6만원이군요. 최근에 산 키보드가 , 방향키 위에 있는 키조합(insert,delete , home, end, pageup, pagedown) 이 좀 특이하다보니 살짝 불편하더라구요.
[23:16] <Work^Seony> 저는 키배열 다르면 많이 불편하더라구요
[23:16] <Work^Seony> 그래서 저는 필코 키보드가 좋습니다 ㅎㅎ
[23:16] <autowiz> F키도 그렇구요 ㅠㅠ , 적응을 먼서 시도해보는게 먼저일 수 도 있는데
[23:17] <autowiz> 살짜기 고민중입니다. 그렇게 비싼것도 아니고 하니
[23:19] <Work^Seony> 키보드가 하나 뿐이면 적응해볼만한데,
[23:19] <Work^Seony> 그게 아니시면 힘들텐데요
[23:28] <autowiz> 살짜기 좀더 고민해봐야 할거 같습니다.
[23:49] <jun> 안녕하세요~ 아침에 인사드리는건 일주일만인거 같네요 ㅎㅎㅎ
[23:49] <Work^Seony> 안녕하세요 ㅎㅎ
[23:50] <jun> Seony님 한국은 이제 겨울이 다 된거 같아요... 추워요 ㅜㅜ
[23:50] <jun> 추운건 싫은딩~
[23:50] <Work^Seony> 네 뉴스 보니까 춥다고 하더라구요
[23:50] <Work^Seony> 여기도 요즘은 선풍기 안틀고 지냅니다 ㅎㅎ
[23:51] <jun> 저도 발 밑에 다가 선풍기 짱박아둔지가 꽤 된거 같네요;;;;ㅎㅎㅎ
[23:52] <Work^Seony> 겨울날씨가 그립네요
[23:54] <jun> 전 지금보다 덜 추운상태로 쭉 계속 됐으면 좋겠어요~ ㅎㅎㅎ
[23:54] <Work^Seony> 개인적으로 한국날씨는 5월 초와 10월 말이 가장 좋은거 같아요
[23:55] <jun> 5월초도 요새는 더워서리;;;;;;ㅎㅎㅎ 전 10월말에 한표!
[23:57] <Work^Seony> 아 그래요?
[23:57] <Work^Seony> 내년 5월 초에 한국 방문하려고 했는데, 계획을 수정해야겠네요
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ubuntu-chat
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2024-05-13T22:11:18.701306
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2015-11-18-#ubuntu-release
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[14:44] <lamont> arges: around? can I poke you to process bcache-tools/precise-proopsed out of NEW?
[14:44] <lamont> that way, I can test it and confirm it.
[14:48] <arges> lamont: yes
[14:48] <arges> lamont: looking
[14:49] <lamont> ta
[14:49] <lamont> arges: and then there's bug 1515661
[14:51] <arges> lamont: so this works with precise/3.2 or do you need to use the lts-trusty kernel
[14:51] <arges> bcache that is
[14:53] <lamont> bcache needs the kernel module that hasn't been backported to the precise kernel
[14:54] <lamont> which is acceptable, in that we can document taht you have to use hwe-t kernel
[14:55] <lamont> tbf, I haven't actually checked the stock precise kernel. let me do that for giggles, but I'm 99% certain that it'll tell me to jump in a lake
[14:55] <arges> lamont: so just to be clear, hwe-t works? or you have to use an out of tree module build?
[14:56] <lamont> hwe-t is demonstrated to work
[14:56] <arges> lamont: ok ok
[14:56] <lamont> though it did require me to use 1515661's kernel/initrd
[14:57] <lamont> which actually means that really testing stock precise with any hope of success needs 1515661 to land along with bcache-tools, and a new daily image...
[14:58] <arges> lamont: so ideally for cloud-initramfs-tools we need bug 1236380 to be verified as well and it should cook in -proposed for 7 days
[15:00] * lamont pokes smoser about that
[15:00] <arges> infinity: ^^^ since you did the acceptance, is this one of those high prio things we should push out sooner than later? cloud-initramfs-tools in precise
[15:00] <lamont> arges: it's a blocker for maas1.9, which will rc2 this week, if I'm understanding things correctly
[15:01] <arges> lamont: ok good to know
[15:02] <arges> i think at a minimum getting bug 1236380 verified should be done
[15:06] <lamont> arges: so... 1236380 is actually "not fixed, but not regressing anything" -- I'll be updating it shortly with what I think is an actual diff
[15:06] <arges> lamont: ok appreciate it
[15:06] <lamont> but I don't know that we need to reject the promotion on that account
[15:07] <lamont> arges: and I've been schooled.
[15:08] * lamont doesn't actuallyhave anything to test that with, so it's semi problematic
[15:08] <lamont> and I misread the code.
[15:13] <lamont> arges: trying to make a machine that loves it enoug to exercise that code. as a side note, regression is highly unlikey, in that every trusty cloud boot since early 2014 has been exercising this very code.
[15:14] <arges> lamont: ack. also not sure if some maas people could also verify too. i'd think some arm hardware might run into this issue more frequently?
[15:14] <arges> but then again probably not running precise
[15:14] <lamont> arges: tbf, I am one of the maas people.
[15:15] <lamont> but yeah, seeing what I can see
[15:15] <arges> lamont: ah. : )
[15:43] <infinity> arges: I don't mind it being fasttracked, if they prove they've tested the three bits that changed.
[15:44] <arges> infinity: ack
[15:48] * lamont finds a laptop that netboots
[17:07] <lamont> arges: and yeah, stupid sd cards shows up as sdb on the both of hte machines I can test with, so no go for my testing.
[17:08] <arges> lamont: ok
[17:08] <lamont> otoh, I'm willing to believe that it's at least no worse than the prior code wrt 1236380
[17:13] <arges> lamont: ok made a note in the bug to please re-open if verification fails. thanks for attempting to verify this one
[17:17] <lamont> ta
[17:19] <arges> lamont: bcache-tools accepted, so once that hits the archive you can verify.
[17:22] <lamont> arges: woot
[17:22] * lamont looks forward to dropping his ppa and associated hackery from his last test
[17:24] <lamont> arges: will test in several minutes, since I see it released
[18:44] * stgraber pokes queuebot, there should be two more of those :)
[18:49] <lamont> can I sweet talk someone into letting django-piston3 out of NEW? (xenial)
[18:58] <stgraber> Laney, micahg: updated lxc backport in trusty-backports queue (two cherry-picks from upstream)
[19:37] <micahg> stgraber: looking
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ubuntu-chat
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2024-05-13T22:11:18.718390
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2015-11-18-#ubuntu-motu
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[03:25] <dupingping> Hi, motus.
[03:25] <dupingping> How can i become a motu?
[18:52] <teward> backport request guidance please
[18:52] <teward> reverse-suggests - how do I handle those, since it's not an rdep can I safely ignore?
[18:53] <teward> and debug symbols, can I ignore those for the 'run' portion of tests
[19:34] <micahg> teward: reverse suggests can be safely ignored
[19:46] <teward> micahg: OK, and the debug symbols packages, test for install but not run?
[19:46] <teward> (like we had done before)
[19:47] <micahg> yeah, that sounds fine
[19:47] <teward> OK, when I run the requestbackport and adjust the report I'll make those notes
[19:47] <teward> (znc 1.6.2 here we come!)
[19:47] <teward> though, requestbackport doesn't take into account interim releases
[19:47] <teward> which is annoying me
[19:47] <teward> (more copypaste on my part)
[19:49] <micahg> it does when it's required, just open a request for each release if you like
[19:50] <teward> i can cluster them, or do separate ones, though having them in one would mean less link tracking for me to do :p
[19:50] <teward> oh goody it builds in oldstable >.>
[19:50] <micahg> heh, whatever is easier for you
[22:11] <Acerio> Afternoon.
[22:12] <Na3iL> o/
[22:12] <Acerio> How are you, Na3iL?
[22:12] <Na3iL> I am fine thanks Acerio what about you?
[22:13] <Acerio> I am okay Na3iL, I am currently reading on the wiki about contributing to MOTU.
[22:13] <Acerio> I have become very interested, lately, as I've been a Ubuntu user for some time now.
[22:14] <Na3iL> Welcome Acerio :)
[22:14] <Acerio> Thank you :]
[22:15] <Acerio> Are you a MOTU member, Na3iL?
[22:17] <Na3iL> Not yet Acerio , I am new as well.. I have read the wiki & some other resources of MOTU
[22:17] <Na3iL> And currently am waiting for a stable connection.. to get more involved
[22:17] <Acerio> I am currently doing so. Lots to read, and lots to be excited for.
[22:17] <Acerio> What do you mean, by stable connection?
[22:18] <Na3iL> I am connected via mobile, and the connection in my country is sucks, I can't even open duckduckgo.com
[22:20] <Acerio> That is unfortunate Na3iL. Hopefully things will be better in the near future.
[22:20] <Na3iL> Thank you Acerio I appreciate it :)
[22:20] <Acerio> :]
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2015-11-18-#lubuntu
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[04:08] <deletemeplease> Yo
[04:09] <deletemeplease> a while ago I posted this error in the channel: 'SETTING OF KERNEL PARAMETER FAILED: echo ondemand \> /sys/devices/system/cpu/cp$'
[04:09] <deletemeplease> I continiue to get this error to date on my laptop
[04:09] <deletemeplease> I was told my SSD might be responding too slow (unlikely) or dying (extremely unlikely)
[04:10] <deletemeplease> So i've done a bit of research and it this happens for many laptops, even the chromebook pixel
[04:10] <deletemeplease> As it turns out, this error might be nothing more than STDIO is closed when hibernating before the echo command can be issued.
[04:10] <deletemeplease> Also laptop-mode-tools is not as important now thanks to TLP and kernel changes.
[04:11] <deletemeplease> So anyone else having this problem now or in the future, don't worry. It's most likely a harmless bug. ✔
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[08:15] <Kamilion> lol, cholby
[08:15] <Kamilion> I havn't heard that name in ages
[08:15] <Kamilion> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WP33crds1tI
[08:17] <hateball> CholbyRulez: Well hello there, oyu certainly seem a friendly fella
[08:55] <arch> http://askubuntu.com/questions/91815/how-to-install-software-or-upgrade-from-an-old-unsupported-release
[15:33] <orflon> hey guys, is there something like Terminator in lubuntu without having to install GNOME packages?
[15:33] <bioterror> what does Terminator do?
[15:33] <orflon> it's multiple GNOME terminals in one window
[15:34] <bioterror> urxvt + tmux
[15:35] <orflon> I'll look into it! Thanks mate.
[15:54] <Rezwan> how to install tar.xf on Lubuntu?
[15:56] <bioterror> you already have gunzip and tar installed
[15:56] <bioterror> but do you mean you need to unpack the tar.gz file?
[15:56] <Rezwan> I have extracted the tar.xf file
[15:56] <Rezwan> of 'Telegram"
[15:57] <Rezwan> now it have two files in it, 'Telegram' and 'Update'
[15:57] <bioterror> https://launchpad.net/~atareao/+archive/ubuntu/telegram
[15:58] <bioterror> use that PPA instead
[16:23] <Rezwan> bioterror, thanks
[20:05] <pvl1> hey uh, so does unetbootin not work at all for the latest lubuntu
[20:06] <redwolf> no, pvl1, not a problem of unetbootin really
[20:06] <redwolf> the only solution is using mkusb
[20:06] <bioterror> I prefer Rufus on Windows and on another systems dd
[20:06] <redwolf> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/mkusb
[20:06] <pvl1> well, im ony arch. so can i just dd the lubuntu desktop iso
[20:06] <Unit193> pvl1: Of course.
[20:07] <redwolf> yes :)
[20:07] <pvl1> and that'll just work? no need to install grub or anything?
[20:08] <Unit193> Nah, everything should be good. You in theory could install syslinux then rsync the mounted ISO over, renaming s/isolinux/syslinux/, but that's not quite as easy.
[20:08] <redwolf> or use "sudo pacman -Syu imagewriter"
[20:08] <pvl1> ooo i just found rufus on the arch wiki, looks sexy
[20:09] <redwolf> it is :)
[20:10] <pvl1> weird imagewriter wasnt found. its kool tho, yall got me on the path :)
[20:10] <pvl1> oh its in the aur. yaourt imagewriter
[20:14] <pvl1> i like that image writer has aprogress bar
[20:14] <pvl1> cuz dd doesnt
[20:14] <pvl1> and im impatient
[20:17] <redwolf> don't be :)
[20:18] <pvl1> YAY
[20:18] <pvl1> the day is saved everyone
[20:18] <redwolf> nice to hear
[21:14] <hudo> hello i like to compile a static and lib32 version of "file" from file-5.11
[21:37] <redwolf> right click? ctrl+n?
[21:37] <redwolf> sorry, ctrl+shift+n
[21:39] <redwolf> sorry, wrong tab! :D
[22:54] <sss> hola
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[07:35] <me> witam
[07:35] <me> czy forum zostało zlikwidowane?
[07:36] <gjm> nie mamy nic wspólnego z forum
[07:37] <Guest7745> gdzie najlepiej uzyskać pomoc po polsku?
[07:37] <Guest7745> wcześniej było polskie forum poswiecone ubuntu
[07:37] <Guest7745> a od jakiegos czasu nie mozna tam wejsc
[07:49] <sylwek> pewnie pomoc to tylko w Google mozna znalesc
[07:51] <gjm> znaleźć
[07:52] <sylwek> jeden h...j
[07:53] <sylwek> :)
[07:53] <gjm> chuj
[07:53] <sylwek> hehe
[07:53] <sylwek> nie ma tego w polskim slowniku
[07:53] <sylwek> a moze jest??
[07:54] <sylwek> hmmm, cacao czy kakao ?
[07:54] <gjm> http://36.media.tumblr.com/c7b5caf2f532befdd9bca53d3b750030/tumblr_mg62b46ZRo1rcnsvjo1_500.jpg
[08:04] <Ashiren> :<
[08:11] <qermit> http://jbzd.pl/obr/429402/niezle
[09:03] <sylwek> no dobre
[09:05] <firemark> qermit: lol
[09:13] <sylwek> az mie zabolało
[10:53] <sylwek> znacie jakies darmowe strony zeby DDNS zalozyc?
[10:53] <sylwek> bo wszedzie chcą kas
[10:53] <sylwek> kase
[10:57] <jacekn> http://freedns.no-ip.com
[10:57] <jacekn> tylko co miesiac chyba trzeba kliknac linka w emailu zeby rekord nie wygasl
[10:58] <sylwek> jeszcze kurcze zeby no maim ruterze byla taka opcja na no-ip.com
[10:58] <jacekn> na moim jest
[10:58] <sylwek> zeby wpisac ddns
[11:28] <qermit> uzywam tego, raz na miesiac musze klikac
[11:29] <qermit> tylko często spam przysyłają
[12:08] <mati75> 08:56 -!- ari-tczew [~ari@ubuntu/member/ari-tczew] has quit [Quit: Konversation terminated!]
[12:08] <mati75> fuck
[12:10] <gjm> icoteras
[12:11] <mati75> sam będę psuł
[12:12] <shpaq> na he jest
[12:12] <shpaq> co prawda 'ręcznie' trzeba to apdejtować, ale i tak jest w porzo
[14:18] <drathir> bry...
[14:22] <drathir> shpaq: podobno mozna skrypta dac co z pc bedzie aktualizowal dobry pomysl, jakby openwrt-ka dalo rade to tam zapewne bylaby mozliwosc...
[14:22] <shpaq> można
[14:22] <shpaq> mam tak sklikane u siebie
[14:23] <shpaq> podobnie z tunelami
[14:24] <drathir> szkoda,ze routery nie maja mozliwosci wlasnego klienta dodania... tez mam starszy model to nie chcieli zaktualizowac fw jak poprosilem ;p
[14:25] <shpaq> nie boli mnie to jakoś specjalnie
[14:25] <drathir> klienta/uslugi*
[14:25] <shpaq> skrypt w cronie i już
[17:14] <bdert> Czesc, moglby mi ktos poswiecic kilka minut w zakresie, laptop'a z ubuntu (lenovo y50-70)/geforce, a sterownikow nvidia. Nie wiem czy je dobrze wgralem. Sa dwie karty hybrid. nvidia-settings dziala, OK mam ustawione na intel'a (powersave mode), ale wiatrak chodzi dosyc glosno + przed chwila korzystajac z phpstorma i chrome'a, wylaczyl sie tak po prostu...
[17:48] <Voldenet> bdert: nie laptop'a a laptopa
[17:50] <Voldenet> co do wiatraków, to niekoniecznie musi być oznaka tego, że gpu chodzi - może to cpu się tak grzeje
[17:51] <Voldenet> zerknij na temperatury w lm-sensors
[17:55] <TheNumb> tak
[18:42] <sylwek> o jest i zaba
[18:42] <Guest36713> jest zielona
[18:42] <sylwek> chwile byla
[18:42] <sylwek> :)
[18:43] <Guest36713> dobra ja sie dopiero ucze
[18:43] <sylwek> dlaczego jako guest jestes
[18:43] <Guest36713> widocznie zaba niedozwolone
[18:44] <sylwek> heh pitolisz
[18:44] <sylwek> zaba to polskie imie przeciez
[18:44] <Guest36713> You failed to identify in time for the nickname zaba_
[18:44] <Guest36713> * Zmieniasz pseudonim na Guest36713
[18:44] <Guest36713> takie cos dostalem
[18:44] <sylwek> moze ktos inny takie ma
[18:45] <Guest36713> nie widze w klientach
[18:45] <sylwek> tam jest takie polecenie do zmiany nicka
[18:46] <sylwek> a moze sie wyloguj i raz jeszcze zaloguj
[18:46] <Guest36713> ok
[18:47] <sylwek> heh thefrog
[18:47] <thefrog> tak\
[18:47] <sylwek> a patrz co mi wyskoczylo
[18:47] <sylwek> thefrog ([email protected]) wchodzi do pokoju #ubuntu-pl
[18:47] <thefrog> a co to jest adop14
[18:48] <thefrog> to z sieci?
[18:48] <sylwek> to kawalek z twojego adresu naoplus.adsl
[18:48] <sylwek> cos jak DDNS?
[18:48] <thefrog> to akurat wiem
[18:48] <thefrog> spoko
[18:49] <sylwek> a wysypal mi sie DDNS
[18:49] <sylwek> juz nie dziala, nie wiem czego
[18:49] <sylwek> jakas kase chcieli
[18:49] <sylwek> 19,99$ za rok
[18:49] <thefrog> na ruterze sprawdzales czy polaczony?
[18:49] <sylwek> wczoraj cos mi na maila przyszlo
[18:50] <sylwek> zeby przedluzyc i zaplacic
[18:50] <gjm> oy vey
[18:50] <gjm> piniendze za usługę chcą
[18:50] <gjm> co za świnie
[18:50] <thefrog> a to no ip tez nie dziala?
[18:50] <sylwek> moze ISIS to przejął
[18:50] <sylwek> i kasy chce
[18:51] <thefrog> na ropie zarabiaja
[18:51] <sylwek> ip dziala, tylko przeciez sie zmienia
[18:51] <sylwek> czekaj chwile, ide sie wylac
[18:51] <thefrog> noip.com
[18:54] <sylwek> jestes?
[18:54] <thefrog> tak
[18:54] <sylwek> ty przez te wiatry
[18:54] <sylwek> cos mi sie z LTE popieprzylo
[18:54] <thefrog> masz zimno w domu
[18:55] <sylwek> zawsze mialem H+ i slabo torenty szly
[18:55] <sylwek> dzis podlaczylem i zapusciłem torenta i mi drze 25Mb/s
[18:55] <thefrog> zmieniles z 5 na 2.4 ghz?
[18:55] <sylwek> a nie wiem nawet
[18:55] <sylwek> czy sie zmienilo
[18:55] <sylwek> ale chyba ta wierzyczka z nadajnikiem sie przechylila w strone mojego domu
[18:56] <sylwek> i przez to lepiej dziala
[18:56] <thefrog> hahaha
[18:56] <thefrog> to jest ten powid
[18:56] <Ashiren> moze ktos zaczal seedowac tego ubuntu
[18:56] <thefrog> hehe
[18:56] <sylwek> co w zyciu mi tak nie dzialalo, Play przestał blokowac torrenty?
[18:57] <sylwek> jeszcze przez LTE?
[18:57] <sylwek> nie chce mi sie wierzyc
[18:57] <thefrog> nie wiem
[18:57] <thefrog> nie znam sie
[18:57] <thefrog> zarobiony jestem siedzeniem
[18:57] <sylwek> zapuscilem 2 filmy, jeden sie sciagal z 1,37MB/s a drugi 1,47MB/s
[18:58] <sylwek> jednoczesnie
[18:58] <thefrog> no to wychodzi 24 Mb
[18:58] <sylwek> no
[18:59] <sylwek> ale ja nigdy takiego nie mialem transferu w domu
[18:59] <sylwek> wczoraj po tym co palilem
[18:59] <sylwek> to dzis myslalem ze umre w robocie
[18:59] <thefrog> nie mam zadnej podstawy zeby to sprawdzic
[19:00] <thefrog> czego?
[19:00] <sylwek> gorzej niz kac
[19:00] <thefrog> za duzo wczoraj bylo?
[19:00] <sylwek> 3 lufki
[19:00] <sylwek> rano do kibla nie trafilem nawet
[19:00] <thefrog> po co?
[19:00] <sylwek> a o tak, myslalem ze dzis sobota
[19:00] <thefrog> a tak wogole to skad wytrzasnales lufke?
[19:00] <sylwek> magda mi pozyczyla
[19:01] <thefrog> to jeszcze do baru wrociles?
[19:01] <sylwek> nie no, do domu wziolem se
[19:01] <sylwek> siedzialem przed kompem i na strychu palilem
[19:01] <thefrog> to po co mnie sie pytales czy mam?
[19:02] <sylwek> bo zapomnialem ze jej nie oddalem
[19:02] <thefrog> hehe
[19:02] <sylwek> kefas se faceboka zalozyl
[19:02] <sylwek> mowilem ci?
[19:02] <thefrog> kefas mial facebooka
[19:02] <TheNumb> proszę się wyrażać
[19:02] <thefrog> tylko zawiesil
[19:02] <TheNumb> a nie się od kefasów wyzywacie
[19:03] <sylwek> kefas,, hehe tak kumpla nazywamy
[19:03] <thefrog> kefas to piotr
[19:03] <thefrog> przecie
[19:03] <sylwek> z jakiego jezyka
[19:03] <sylwek> ?
[19:03] <TheNumb> hehe
[19:03] <TheNumb> to może sobie piszcie na query
[19:04] <TheNumb> a nie kanale syficie
[19:04] <thefrog> hebrajski
[19:04] <sylwek> TheNumb przeciez tu nikt nic nie pisze godzinami
[19:04] <sylwek> to nie czat na wp.pl
[19:04] <TheNumb> dokładnie
[19:04] <sylwek> ze sie syfi
[19:04] <TheNumb> proszę sobię pójść na query
[19:04] <TheNumb> albo zawołam gjm i posprząta
[19:04] <TheNumb> ;f
[19:05] <sylwek> thefrog
[19:05] <thefrog> ?
[19:05] <sylwek> lepiej patrzyc w pusty ekran caly dzien
[19:05] <sylwek> taka cisza tu
[19:05] <TheNumb> tak
[19:05] <thefrog> w mahjonga zagrac
[19:06] <sylwek> w co?
[19:06] <thefrog> takie kostki
[19:06] <TheNumb> a słyszeliście że francja ma wojne z paryżem?
[19:06] <sylwek> a po co mi to, ja w Donbasie mieszkam
[19:06] <sylwek> a Thefrog Moskwie
[19:06] <thefrog> powiedzial
[19:07] <thefrog> hehe polska walczy z warszawą
[19:07] <thefrog> smiechu warte
[19:07] <sylwek> ja to licze pociski artylerii a Thefrog nimi strzela z drugiej strony granicy
[19:08] <thefrog> ta
[19:08] <thefrog> czas na dymek
[19:08] <sylwek> nie pale
[19:08] <sylwek> moze w piatek
[19:08] <sylwek> znowu mi sie dni popieprzą
[19:11] <sylwek> TheNumb to nie czasami z Linkin Park, taki kawałek?
[19:11] <TheNumb> nie
[19:11] <TheNumb> linkin park to ciota i chuj
[19:11] <TheNumb> skończyli się na meteorze
[19:11] <TheNumb> ;/
[19:11] <sylwek> bo wlasnie slucham open fm tylko Linkin Park i leci Numb
[19:12] <TheNumb> ;f
[19:12] <TheNumb> dobrze, że ich radio na spotify ma coś normalnego w kolejce
[19:13] <sylwek> tylko wlasnie to jest spoko, reszta do kitu, lepsze digitalgunfire
[19:13] <TheNumb> nie znam
[19:13] <sylwek> eee
[19:13] <thefrog> to jest stacja radiowa
[19:13] <TheNumb> a, to jakieś radio
[19:13] <TheNumb> meh
[19:13] <TheNumb> wolę spotify
[19:14] <thefrog> ciezke trance czy jakos tak
[19:14] <sylwek> jak sie tego digitalgufire slucha to przynajmniej nie wiadomo o co chodzi
[19:14] <sylwek> i sie tak słucha zeby zalapac
[19:14] <sylwek> i tak non stop
[19:14] <thefrog> niemiecka stacja
[19:15] <thefrog> w sumie wole antyradio
[19:15] <thefrog> tam jest fajna muzyka
[19:15] <sylwek> ale w antyradio polskie piosnki lecą
[19:15] <sylwek> słuchasz tego?
[19:15] <thefrog> nietylko
[19:16] <thefrog> tak slucham
[19:16] <sylwek> jak to na ubuntu zainstalowas
[19:16] <thefrog> nie da sie
[19:16] <sylwek> nie ma tego w repo
[19:16] <sylwek> pewnie sie da
[19:17] <sylwek> tylo trzeba poszukac
[19:17] <sylwek> jak openfm da sie zainstalowac to i tamto mozna
[19:17] <thefrog> trzeba sobie zrobic liste np w winampie i potem to otworzyc w rythmbox
[19:17] <thefrog> m3u
[19:17] <sylwek> mozna bezposrednio sciagnąc ze strony pewnie,, jakos wget http://......
[19:18] <thefrog> jest dostepne na winde ichyba ios
[19:19] <sylwek> tak jak w openfm mozna to zrobic
[19:19] <thefrog> www .antyradio.pl
[19:19] <gjm> TheNumb: co?
[19:19] <sylwek> wget http://open.fm/6.m3u
[19:19] <sylwek> np
[19:19] <sylwek> 6.m3u to pewnie 6 stacja tam u nich
[19:19] <TheNumb> gjm: co zobacz co odpapieżają
[19:19] <TheNumb> spam na 5 ekranów
[19:19] <sylwek> heh
[19:19] <gjm> co tu się odpapieża
[19:20] <thefrog> gada
[19:20] <sylwek> nie znam zeby tu papież pisał
[19:20] <TheNumb> żaby to płazy, nie gady
[19:20] <TheNumb> sylwek: a ty co, w rosji mieszkasz?
[19:20] <TheNumb> "nie znam" :D
[19:20] <thefrog> porazka
[19:21] <sylwek> porazka
[19:21] <sylwek> czekaj,
[19:21] <gjm> cyka blat
[19:21] <sylwek> TheNumb , polonista ?
[19:21] <TheNumb> cyka
[19:21] <TheNumb> sylwek: nie, sysadmin
[19:21] <TheNumb> : D
[19:22] <sylwek> to cos w rodzaju aslaim?
[19:22] <TheNumb> ale dla Ciebie kotku moge być nawet polonistą ( ͡o ͜ʖ ͡o)
[19:22] <sylwek> ups
[19:22] <sylwek> kurcze, jak to narysowales
[19:23] <sylwek> albo narysowałas???????
[19:23] <sylwek> matko jedyna
[19:23] <TheNumb> ( ノ ￣ ▽ ￣ )ノ Ｄｏｈｏｈｏｈｏｈｏ~
[19:23] <thefrog> musialo troche zejsc
[19:23] <TheNumb> ja niczego nie rysuje (┛◉Д◉)┛彡┻━┻
[19:23] <sylwek> aa wiem
[19:23] <TheNumb> prosze mi nie offtopowac na moim kanale (╯°□°）╯︵ ┻━┻
[19:24] <gjm> to są hierglify
[19:24] <TheNumb> tak
[19:24] <sylwek> to kombinacja przycisków alt+ctrl+del
[19:24] <Bercik> to są gify w ascii ;p
[19:24] <TheNumb> Bercik: otóż to.
[19:24] <thefrog> znikam na film
[19:24] <TheNumb> znikaj
[19:24] <sylwek> do kina?
[19:25] <sylwek> no i poszedł
[19:25] <sylwek> hmmm
[19:25] <Bercik> zawstydził się, że nie umie "rysować"
[19:26] <TheNumb> tak
[19:26] <sylwek> dobra znawcy, mam pytanie do was
[19:27] <sylwek> bo sobie na netboku zainstalowalem opensuse 12.3
[19:27] <sylwek> i mam ssh zainstalowane na nim tez
[19:27] <sylwek> dlaczego kur.... sie nie moge na niego przez ssh dostac
[19:27] <Bercik> usuń konto
[19:27] <TheNumb> bo nie masz uruchomionego sshd
[19:27] <TheNumb> albo nie masz puszczonego na firewallu
[19:28] <sylwek> akurat mam
[19:28] <TheNumb> a tak w ogóle to zrób upgrade do nowszego wydania
[19:28] <TheNumb> bo 12.3 jest już wiekowe :D
[19:28] <TheNumb> teraz najnowsze jest 42.1
[19:28] <sylwek> jak wiekowe jak bylo z linuxmagazine jakies 3 miesiace temu chyba
[19:28] <TheNumb> serio kupiłeś płytę z linuksem? :DDDDD
[19:28] <sylwek> taaa, skok z 12.3 na 42.1
[19:28] <sylwek> to ile to lat
[19:29] <TheNumb> http://distrowatch.com/table.php?distribution=opensuse
[19:29] <TheNumb> zobacz
[19:29] <Bercik> jak to wersje chrome-a to ze dwa tygodnie jak nic.
[19:29] <TheNumb> 12.3 - data wydania 2013 rok
[19:29] <TheNumb> :D
[19:29] <sylwek> nie kupielm tylko na firme taki gosc prenumeruje w pracy
[19:29] <sylwek> i pozniej na makulature to idzie
[19:29] <sylwek> plyty oczywisice osobno
[19:29] <sylwek> Ochrona srodowiska
[19:30] <sylwek> ok 12.3 data wyadnia
[19:30] <sylwek> a 42.1 to jaka to data wydania?
[19:30] <TheNumb> nie
[19:30] <sylwek> 2042?
[19:30] <TheNumb> po prostu z dupy sobie wzięli 42 i tyle
[19:30] <TheNumb> jak to opensuse
[19:31] <TheNumb> 11.0 było z tego co pamiętam w 2008 roku
[19:31] <TheNumb> to nie ubuntu które ma nazewnictwo jakie ma ;p
[19:32] <sylwek> porazka
[19:33] <gjm> poważka
[19:33] <TheNumb> poważka g
[19:33] <sylwek> nie no porazka
[19:34] <Bercik> wracając do meritum, najprawdopodobniej masz wyłączoną usługę
[19:35] <sylwek> czyli nie wystarczy ja w ubuntu zainstalowac ssh i tyle, tylko cos trzeba jeszcze uruchamiac
[19:35] <TheNumb> tak
[19:35] <TheNumb> systemctl start sshd
[19:35] <sylwek> no to jutro wyj...e tego opensuse
[19:35] <TheNumb> albo pewnie w yast da się wyklikać
[19:36] <sylwek> po cholere tak sobie sami to komplikują
[19:37] <Bercik> Linuksiarzy nie zrozumiesz....
[19:37] <sylwek> tak samo jak w ubuntu "apt-get install", nie mozna to jednym slowem nazwac?
[19:37] <sylwek> np. install
[19:38] <TheNumb> nie
[19:38] <sylwek> alo krocej nawet
[19:38] <TheNumb> bo install jest już zajęte
[19:38] <TheNumb> nie wiem czy wiesz
[19:38] <TheNumb> pewnie nie wiesz
[19:38] <TheNumb> :D
[19:38] <sylwek> no to niech np. inst
[19:38] <Bercik> to wynika z czego innego
[19:38] <TheNumb> nikt ci nie zabrania zrobić sobie aliasu w shellu
[19:38] <TheNumb> ;]
[19:38] <gjm> alias inst='apt-get install'
[19:38] <TheNumb> ^
[19:38] <gjm> magic.gif
[19:39] <sylwek> skoro mozna sobie zamiast IP wpisac jakiegos hosta, to dlaczego tego nie mozna sobie samemu czyms zastapic
[19:39] <gjm> przecież ci pisze, że możesz
[19:39] <TheNumb> gjm: coś czuję, że trol
[19:39] <Bercik> nie rozumiem, pytasz laczego używamy adresów IP zamiast nazw "normalnych"
[19:39] <Bercik> ?
[19:40] <sylwek> nieno, w systemie u siebie tak zrobic, np sie loguje na srwer w robocie ssh [email protected]..
[19:40] <sylwek> 1.2.3.1
[19:40] <Bercik> no to /etc/hosts
[19:40] <Bercik> albo włąsny dns
[19:40] <sylwek> sobie zastąpie np. centrala
[19:40] <gjm> avahi
[19:40] <sylwek> Bercik: wiem ze tam sie ustawia
[19:41] <TheNumb> echo "1.2.3.1 cantrala" >> /etc/hosts
[19:41] <Bercik> ja tak często robie, dodaje do hostów ulubione systemy, albo aliasy
[19:41] <gjm> ew. ~/.ssh/config
[19:41] <TheNumb> ta
[19:41] <TheNumb> albo jak nie jesteś kondoniarzem
[19:41] <Bercik> ale to jest "wina" protokołu TCP/IP a nie linuksa
[19:41] <TheNumb> to stawiasz sobie dnsmasq i tam dodajesz
[19:41] <Bercik> z linuksem problem wg mnie leży gdzieś indziej
[19:44] <sylwek> niby gdzie
[19:44] <TheNumb> linuks to syf
[19:44] <TheNumb> mac os x jedyny słuszny system
[19:44] <Bercik> weź to zabierz
[19:44] <sylwek> przeciez MAC OS bazuje na FreeBSD
[19:44] <TheNumb> nie
[19:44] <Bercik> tak
[19:44] <sylwek> tak !
[19:44] <TheNumb> nie
[19:44] <Bercik> ale mało z niego zostało
[19:44] <TheNumb> http://opensource.apple.com/
[19:45] <Bercik> oni sobie zbudowali swój system
[19:45] <TheNumb> pokaż mi ile % bsd tutaj znajdziesz
[19:45] <TheNumb> :)
[19:45] <Bercik> wtedy wzieli BSD tylko ze wzgledów licencyjnych (jak to zaczęli)
[19:45] <sylwek> ale bazuje, zaczynał od FreeBSD
[19:45] <Bercik> z dzisiejszym BSD nie ma za wiele wspólnego
[19:45] <TheNumb> nie
[19:45] <TheNumb> nie zaczynał od bsd
[19:45] <sylwek> taaa zamiast packzi .deb masz kext
[19:46] <sylwek> ale zmiana
[19:46] <TheNumb> ale pierdolisz
[19:46] <gjm> uuuuuuuuuuuu
[19:46] <gjm> będzie ban
[19:46] <TheNumb> .deb to paczka menedżera pakietów
[19:46] <TheNumb> a nie moduł kernela jak kext
[19:46] <TheNumb> :D
[19:46] <sylwek> jeden h....
[19:46] <TheNumb> nie
[19:46] <TheNumb> kernel a userspace to dwie różne rzeczy
[19:46] <sylwek> zainstalowałem ostatnio iDeneb 10.5 na Acer
[19:46] <sylwek> nie wiem po ilu dniach mi sie udało
[19:47] <TheNumb> tak a propo tego, że niby mac os x bazuje na freebsd
[19:47] <TheNumb> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/XNU
[19:47] <sylwek> ale na początek musiałem w terminalu
[19:47] <sylwek> typowym jak na ubuntu czy innym
[19:47] <sylwek> edytowac plik z passwd
[19:47] <sylwek> czy cos takiego
[19:47] <TheNumb> dobra, ide stąd dzisiaj
[19:47] <sylwek> polecenia na 90% takie same
[19:47] <TheNumb> bo napromieniował mnie ten sylwek
[19:47] <TheNumb> i raka dostanę jeszcze
[19:47] <TheNumb> czy co
[19:47] <Bercik> TheNumb, mięczak!
[19:47] <TheNumb> ;/
[19:47] <Bercik> :D
[19:48] <sylwek> a ,, po coc sie denerwowac
[19:51] <Bercik> i znowu cisza na kanale..
[19:52] <sylwek> i tak bedzie
[19:52] <sylwek> thefrog uciekł bo sie przestraszył, reszta spi pewnie
[19:52] <sylwek> albo piwko pije , jak ja :):)
[19:58] <sylwek> ooo jak dobrze juz grudzien nie dlugo,,, ciekawe czy ktos bedzie pamietał
[19:58] <sylwek> ze Sylwester ma imieniny
[19:59] <sylwek> czy tylko zapic pałe każdy pójdzie
[21:00] <Ashiren> ale zeby 13 w piatek?
[21:02] <qermit> czas pograc w kosza
[22:34] <BaGRoS> czesc
[22:35] <BaGRoS> jesli ktos nie spi to mam pytanie dotyczace KODI i tego dlaczego nie widzi nic w katalogu /media/Dysk_2 , mc odpalony bez upranwnien widzi zawartosc bezproblemu
[22:35] <BaGRoS> zainstalowalem kodi z opisu http://forum.kodi.tv/showthread.php?tid=231955
[22:36] <BaGRoS> dysk montuje w fstab UUID="349c388c-8064-4e56-b051-29972600ba50" /media/Dysk_2 reiserfs auto,rw,user,exec,noatime,notail,nofail 0 0
[22:43] <BaGRoS> :(
[22:48] <BaGRoS> sudo chmod 0777 -R /media/Dysk_2
[22:48] <BaGRoS> działa :)
[22:49] <gjm> ok
[23:16] <julek> czesc
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2015-11-18-#ubuntu-kernel
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[11:39] <apw> stgraber, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/lxc/+bug/1517426 ... seems lxc is failing its autotests for what looks like a bad dep
[11:52] <caribou> can someone ping my nick again, please ?
[11:58] <apw> caribou, ?
[12:01] <caribou> apw: thanks!
[14:33] <gpiccoli> Hello, I don't know if this is the right place for asking help on this, but I'm having trouble in saving logs of kernel crashes on Ubuntu 14.04.3. Sorry to bother with this
[14:33] <gpiccoli> I have the linux-crashdump and the following parameter on my cmdline: "crashkernel=384M-2G:64M,2G-:128M"
[14:34] <gpiccoli> Even so, nothing shows up on /var/crash after a crash (I'm using sysrq for testing)
[14:34] <gpiccoli> Any clue?
[14:37] <apw> gpiccoli, is crash dumping enabled, i don't think it is by default when the package is installed
[14:37] <apw> caribou, ^
[14:38] <gpiccoli> apw, I followed some procedures of wiki page - I notice the following line on my dmesg: "Reserving 128MB of memory at 128MB for crashkernel (System RAM: 4096MB)"
[14:38] <caribou> apw: yes, it needs to be enabled in /etc/default/kdump-tools :
[14:38] <caribou> gpiccoli: ^
[14:38] <gpiccoli> wow, nice! thanks caribou and apw !
[14:38] <caribou> gpiccoli: USE_KDUMP=1 and then sudo kdump-config load (assuming that you have rebooted & crashkernel= is present)
[14:38] <apw> gpiccoli, do fix the wiki if it isn't correctly indicated in there
[14:38] <gpiccoli> Should I document this on wiki? OR is it already there, and I missed?
[14:39] <apw> gpiccoli, that you missed it implies it is not well enough presented even if it is there
[14:39] <caribou> gpiccoli: let me check. Which wiki are you looking at ?
[14:39] <gpiccoli> this one caribou: https://help.ubuntu.com/lts/serverguide/kernel-crash-dump.html
[14:40] <gpiccoli> apw, good point hehehe
[14:40] <caribou> gpiccoli: apw: it is under "Configuratino"
[14:40] <caribou> well "Configuration"
[14:40] <gpiccoli> wow, sorry caribou and apw
[14:40] <caribou> but I keep being asked to have it enabled by default
[14:41] <gpiccoli> My bad =//
[14:41] <caribou> gpiccoli: no worry
[14:41] <gpiccoli> caribou, what is the con in having this enabled by default?
[14:41] <apw> yeah np, documentation is lik that
[14:41] <caribou> apw: we talked about it in Austin, remember
[14:41] <caribou> gpiccoli: nothing really, it is mostly historical
[14:41] <apw> caribou, indeed, it does seem odd to install something which has no other purpose and not enable it by default
[14:41] <caribou> apw: agree
[14:42] <apw> if it needs configuration before enabling it makes sense, yes fine
[14:42] <gpiccoli> Is there a way to enable this flag automatically on linux-crashdump install ?
[14:42] <gpiccoli> Would be nifty
[14:42] <apw> gpiccoli, could be done, but it is i a change, and so needs discussing publically first
[14:42] <apw> in case there is a compelling reason not to that we are not htought of
[14:42] <caribou> apw: I just had a chat with bwh in #debian-kernel and he's fine with having the small initrd fix in Debian as well
[14:43] <gpiccoli> sure apw, I agree! I think it makes sense...for airheads like me heh
[14:43] <apw> caribou, nice, i thnk i saw you chatting
[14:43] <caribou> apw: so I'm thinking of pairing this change with defaulting to Yes
[14:43] <apw> gpiccoli, for the casual user you want it to work as best it can without config, even if power users will want to change things
[14:43] <caribou> apw: with the option of setting it to False if needed
[14:43] <gpiccoli> Great caribou and apw!!!
[14:44] <apw> caribou, might be woth sending out some kind of rfc on that if you havent, to ubuntu-devel or something
[14:44] <caribou> then I'll push both changes to Debian/Sid so it syncs to Xenial
[14:44] <apw> something more focused if there is one
[14:44] <caribou> apw: ubuntu-devel & ubuntu-kernel maybe ?
[14:44] <apw> works for me
[14:44] <caribou> k
[14:44] <apw> i can't see you getting any responses at all :)
[14:45] <caribou> apw: that's what happened with my post to debian-kernel :-)
[14:46] <apw> caribou, :)
[14:47] <caribou> apw: the kernel ML is [email protected], right ?
[14:49] <apw> caribou, ack
[14:53] <apw> caribou, approved your post
[15:17] <gpiccoli> apw, caribou: I'm still with no luck
[15:17] <caribou> gpiccoli: let me run a quick test
[15:17] <gpiccoli> Even with those modifications, only a file named kexec_cmd is created
[15:17] <gpiccoli> I'm on PPC64 kvm _guest_
[15:17] <caribou> oh, ppc64
[15:18] <gpiccoli> What I need is only the log, I don't even need the vmcore
[15:18] <caribou> gpiccoli: any chance I can access it remotely ?
[15:19] <gpiccoli> Unfortunately no caribou, I'm very sorry
[15:19] <gpiccoli> It's private network only
[15:19] <caribou> gpiccoli: np
[15:19] <gpiccoli> I can perform any test you want although
[15:19] <gpiccoli> Note: I already could generate those dumps in the past days
[15:19] <gpiccoli> Reinstalled the system and now, it does not work
[15:20] <apw> gpiccoli, big or little endian (powerpc or ppc64el debian arch)
[15:21] <gpiccoli> ppc64el
[15:21] <gpiccoli> apw ^
[15:22] <caribou> gpiccoli: would you be able to capture the console output during one of your test ?
[15:22] <gpiccoli> ok,
[15:22] <gpiccoli> what dfo you need to see?
[15:22] <gpiccoli> *do
[15:22] <caribou> gpiccoli: well, the portion between the kernel panic & the reboot
[15:23] <gpiccoli> ok, I can put here, but we have not too much output there
[15:23] <apw> gpiccoli, i would pastebinit, rather than putting it in ir
[15:23] <apw> irc
[15:24] <gpiccoli> good idea apw! I'll paste some more info too =)
[15:30] <gpiccoli> apw, caribou: http://pastebin.ca/3259739
[15:30] <gpiccoli> Do you need after QEMU boot logs?
[15:30] <gpiccoli> I sttoped on QEMU first line, can past the rest here if you want
[15:31] <gpiccoli> I should check my loglevel too...
[15:32] <caribou> gpiccoli: well, there's nothing after the sysrq-trigger, you should have the panic backtrace, etc
[15:33] <gpiccoli> There you go!
[15:33] <gpiccoli> What do you think that can be happening?
[15:34] <gpiccoli> It's like if crashes are not being even dumpeed
[15:34] <gpiccoli> *dumped
[15:34] <caribou> gpiccoli: ? same pastebin ?
[15:35] <apw> caribou, well you see it starting to do osmething, as it emits what looks like half of the first line of a kernel boot ?
[15:35] <gpiccoli> caribou, I'm sorry - I didn't understand your question marks hehe
[15:35] <caribou> apw: it should start by displaying the panic() msg
[15:36] <apw> caribou, he is saying that is all he gets, "there you go you are seeing what i see" not "there you go some more information"
[15:36] <caribou> gpiccoli: I thought you had pasted more information somewhere else
[15:36] <apw> english, sooooo unambigious
[15:36] <gpiccoli> yes apw, thanks!!!
[15:36] <gpiccoli> your got right my expression. Sorry caribou
[15:36] <caribou> gpiccoli: can you paste the result of "sudo kdump-config show" pls ?
[15:36] <gpiccoli> I'm not so good in english, so it can be entirely my bad - sorry
[15:37] <gpiccoli> sure!
[15:37] <caribou> gpiccoli: no worry:)
[15:37] <apw> the SLOF line is the indicator that we are booting a new right, after the crash would have been completed if it had occured
[15:38] <gpiccoli> caribou, apw: http://pastebin.ca/3259751
[15:42] <caribou> gpiccoli: what's the result of cat /sys/kernel/fadump_enabled ?
[15:42] <caribou> long shot
[15:43] <gpiccoli> caribou:
[15:43] <gpiccoli> root@ubuntu:~# cat /sys/kernel/fadump_enabled
[15:43] <gpiccoli> cat: /sys/kernel/fadump_enabled: No such file or directory
[15:43] <gpiccoli> =0
[15:43] <caribou> gpiccoli: ok, just wanted to check, this is a PPC specific dump mode
[15:44] <gpiccoli> ok, great!
[15:44] <gpiccoli> BTW, thanks verym uch for your help
[15:46] <apw> slangasek, i think it was you who asked why our testing depended on exim4. I think i have just found out (well cking did), it seems the aslr test in QRT uses starting/stopping exim as part of its payload
[15:47] <cking> namely because of bug https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/504164
[15:49] <caribou> gpiccoli: I'm going to fetch a PPC64 iso & try to test it locally. May take a little while
[15:50] <gpiccoli> Thanks very very much caribou, I'm really appreciate your help =)
[15:50] <gpiccoli> I'll turn my guest off [some more people need the machine]
[15:51] <caribou> gpiccoli: well, I maintain that code so I would highly prefer to see it work ;-)
[15:52] <gpiccoli> hehehe =)
[15:52] <gpiccoli> Great to hear!
[15:53] <gpiccoli> Your are a very nice maintainer, it's good to see such interest and effort
[15:53] <gpiccoli> Not all maintainers are as you, we all know heh
[15:58] <caribou> gpiccoli: Is using PPC64 as the VM architecture correct ?
[15:59] <gpiccoli> Hmmm..I don't know
[15:59] <gpiccoli> What are the possibilities?
[15:59] <gpiccoli> caribou ^
[15:59] <gpiccoli> I can check my VM here
[16:00] <caribou> gpiccoli: If I select ppc64le, it asks me for an existing image
[16:00] <gpiccoli> in libvirt sml we have: <type arch='ppc64' machine='pseries-2.4'>hvm</type>
[16:00] <gpiccoli> *xml
[16:09] <caribou> gpiccoli: I'm getting near end of day. Can you email me the .xml description of your VM ?
[16:11] <slangasek> apw: ah, heh. exim still seems a strange choice of mta then :)
[16:11] <apw> slangasek, its not as an mta, it is because that specific binary was a reproducer
[16:12] <slangasek> ahhh ok
[16:13] <gpiccoli> Sure caribou, thanks!!
[16:13] <gpiccoli> PM me your email
[17:28] <jderose> When is 4.2.0-19.23 expected to land in Wily updates?
[17:31] <apw> jderose, iirc we are about 2 weeks out
[17:33] <apw> jderose, assuming not kitten killers it is slated to release by the 28th
[17:34] <jderose> apw: much thanks! i wasn't sure whether I was reading the kernel newsletter correctly or not :)
[17:34] <apw> jderose, yep, the dates are intentionally vague to let things move around for emergencies and regressions
[19:56] <cristian_c> jsalisbury: hello
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2015-11-18-#ubuntu-tr
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[14:33] <ogny> selamlar herkese
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2015-11-18-#lubuntu-devel
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[09:07] <arch> http://askubuntu.com/questions/91815/how-to-install-software-or-upgrade-from-an-old-unsupported-release
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2015-11-18-#ubuntu+1
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[13:10] <BluesKaj> Howdy all
[22:14] <elhoir> hello, does anyone know if Ubuntu 16.04 will bring llvm 3.7 enabled?
[22:14] <elhoir> i would want to have OpenGL 4.x support
[22:23] <OerHeks> elhoir, yes, wily got 3.7 already, http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?suite=wily&keywords=llvm-3.7
[22:42] <elhoir> OerHeks, but i have OopenGL 3.3
[22:42] <elhoir> not 4.1 or 4.2 :-/
[22:51] <elhoir> OerHeks, because i have llvm 3.6.2
[22:51] <elhoir> thats what glxinfo reports
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2015-11-18-#maas
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[08:02] <mup> Bug #1517350 opened: with special charcters in password of esxi host virsh login fails <maas-cli> <MAAS:Triaged> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1517350>
[19:26] <gawful> (is the server bugged for logins? I can't auth as myself "los")
[19:26] <gawful> MaaS 1.9.0rc1 is amazing!
[19:29] <mgz> you can't log in, but it's amazing? :P
[19:29] <los_> lol...sep'ly I couldn't log in as los here, and it logged me in as los_
[19:29] <los_> I noticed a few people in the same boat, was aronwdering.
[19:29] <los_> MaaS 1.9.0rc1 has a huge number of new things in it. Surprising.
[19:30] <los_> s/aronw/wond
[19:34] <los> Aha,my-bad-as-always-its-my-bad
[19:47] <los> Looks like 1.9.0rc1 is not seeing cores allocated in the case of VirtualBox for node creation, even after repeated Commissioning.
[19:51] <los> Not seeing cores > 1
[20:25] <roaksoax> los: maybe the VM is not commissioning successfuly? If VirtualBox is not exposing thatto the OS the way actual hardware does, then that is a bug
[20:25] <roaksoax> we don't really test against VBox VM's as it is not officially supported
[20:37] <los> roaksoax: thanks. I am sure you're right...its a virtualbox->OS failure to communicate <banjos>
[20:38] <los> roaksoax (BUT 1.9.0rc1 is an astounding pile of new features!)
[20:39] <roaksoax> los: hehe, thanks! 2.0 should be more exciting then :)
[20:44] <los> roaksoax: part of the fun was figuring out what tools y'all were using in your vids. Here's some of them and more: http://www.beisner.com/corp/remote-linux-server-admin-tools-byobu-htop-nethogs-nload-and-iptraf/
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2015-11-18-#ubuntu-fi
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[08:56] <Maakuth> Mikaela, laitoinpa linux.fi:n pari lisäheaderia. public-key-piniä en jaksa kun se tulee vaihtumaan suhteellisen usein let's encryptin takia, luultavasti siihen tulee automaatiota
[08:56] <Mikaela> ok
[19:19] <Echramath> Hei toimiiko teillä mousepadissa primary selection?
[19:20] <Echramath> Hetkinen, tämä prakaa vain mousepadin sisällä
[19:26] <jjo> touchpadissa?
[19:26] <Echramath> Eikön tämä on tällainen pikkueditori, vissiin xfcen nimestä päätellen
[19:26] <jjo> ah juu
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ubuntu-chat
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2015-11-18-#ubuntu-unity
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[09:23] <tsdgeos> mzanetti: you could reproduce the bug with the dash contents being empty until closed again on the desktop?
[09:23] <mzanetti> yes, 100%
[09:24] <tsdgeos> mzanetti: on unity7 too or just on unity8 as a session?
[09:24] <mzanetti> just unity8
[09:24] <tsdgeos> k
[09:24] <tsdgeos> so i'll have to sort that first if i'm supposed to work on the bug :D
[09:25] <tsdgeos> first back to filters
[09:25] <mzanetti> right... strange it won't work for you
[09:25] <mzanetti> tsdgeos, but yes, sooner or later you'd need to get that sorted anyways.
[09:25] <tsdgeos> actually it's very funny
[09:25] <tsdgeos> since it throws an exception once i log in inside unity8
[09:25] <tsdgeos> so unity8 and stuff is already up
[09:26] <tsdgeos> mzanetti: honestly i'm not very keen on going to debug why mir decides to throw expcetions up
[09:26] <tsdgeos> but oh well
[09:59] <mzanetti> tsdgeos, it must be some setup issue on your machine I think
[10:00] <tsdgeos> mzanetti: i don't knwo i almost removed and reinstalled everything regarding unity8 and mir yesterdya and the same
[10:00] <tsdgeos> i am not sure it may be something lib related
[10:01] <tsdgeos> but maybe
[10:01] <mzanetti> hmm
[10:01] <tsdgeos> and the exception i get is a runtime one with unity8 running already
[10:02] <tsdgeos> one would think that it it was a lib mismatch it'd fail to start altogether
[13:19] <tsdgeos> Ç/back
[13:19] <tsdgeos> wops
[13:26] <tsdgeos> do we have any MR removing this?
[13:26] <tsdgeos> ./Stages/DesktopStage.qml:166: onVisibleChanged: console.log("VISIBLE", model.appId, visible)
[13:26] <tsdgeos> mzanetti: ↑ ?
[13:27] <mzanetti> tsdgeos, not that I know, but there's chances ltinkl has one
[13:32] <ltinkl> tsdgeos, yup, it's gone in my new decorations branch
[13:32] <tsdgeos> k
[14:08] <mterry> ltinkl, welcome back :)
[14:09] <mterry> ltinkl, we had the meeting yesterday, only briefly talked about oobe, but looks like mostly they want spacing changes like making text lines taller -- i.e. more spacing between and trying to wrap text lines better
[14:09] <ltinkl> mterry, I explained in the review document this is not possible to do... sigh did they read it? :)
[14:09] <mterry> ltinkl, I've updated our PPA to be a bit closer to landing-ready. I've made it vivid+xenial. And added a couple other packages associated with my edge intro changes
[14:10] <mterry> ltinkl, oh I talked to them
[14:10] <ltinkl> mterry, cool, thanks for that
[14:10] <mterry> ltinkl, both seem possible. What's the problem? Don't we have a Text.lineHeight property?
[14:10] <ltinkl> mterry, they want to alter the linespacing, which isn't possible in QML
[14:10] <mterry> ltinkl, and couldn't we have an invisible Text that we know how long the label width is, so we know where to set its wrap width?
[14:10] <mterry> ltinkl, isn't that Text.lineHeight?
[14:11] <ltinkl> mterry, hmm right... maybe, will try
[14:13] <mterry> ltinkl, they also mentioned that some account screen they didn't want was still in there
[14:13] <mterry> ltinkl, but then they mentioned that there was some newish requirement to keep the "admin password" (new name for the sudo password)
[14:14] <mterry> ltinkl, I pushed back a little on that
[14:14] <mterry> ltinkl, as you can see in the email -- tried to figure out where that was coming from. It wasn't actually coming from security team, so I dunno why it's a requirement
[14:15] <ltinkl> mterry, yeah the account screen is still there as I was waiting for the final decision whether it's still needed or not
[14:17] <ltinkl> mterry, sent an email, let's see
[14:32] <mterry> ltinkl, oh also, I had to disable tests in my branch because your branch failed them. At the least for old imports (non-1.3), but maybe others?
[14:32] <mterry> ltinkl, though I don't think the PPA runs the full qmltest suite
[14:33] <mterry> ltinkl, let me know when you fix that and I can take out the disable line in mine
[14:38] <ltinkl> mterry, yeah the tests are not fully in shape yet
[14:38] <mterry> ltinkl, that's fine for the qmltests (mine aren't either). But the import-checker tests runs during build
[14:38] <mterry> ltinkl, so the PPA was ftbfs
[14:38] <mterry> ltinkl, so please fjix that at least (it was from your merge from trunk)
[14:50] <ltinkl> mterry, do you remember what was it failing at?
[14:50] <mterry> ltinkl, yeah bad imports (non-1.3 / qt5.4)
[14:51] <mterry> ltinkl, make tests should show the failure
[14:51] <ltinkl> mterry, hmm it passes here
[14:53] <mterry> ltinkl, uh I meant "make test" but if that still passes... good? I can remove the test-comment-out-lines
[14:53] <ltinkl> mterry, hmm that doesn't, a sec
[14:53] <mterry> k
[14:58] <ltinkl> mterry, heh, interesting failure, it chokes on "import Ubuntu.Components.Popups 1.0"
[14:58] <ltinkl> mterry, the regexp is too greedy
[15:00] <mterry> ltinkl, no, your import should be 1.3
[15:00] <ltinkl> mterry, ok, that works
[15:01] <ltinkl> mterry, I thought this component wasn't bumped
[15:03] <ltinkl> mterry, alright, pushed the fixes, make test passing
[15:03] <mterry> ltinkl, nic
[15:03] <mterry> e
[18:50] <ChrisTownsend> dandrader: mzanetti: Any luck on reproducing the dual cursor on Unity 8 desktop? bregma was just able to reproduce.
[18:50] <mzanetti> ChrisTownsend, dandrader said he couldn't. I didn't find the time to try yet
[18:50] <dandrader> ChrisTownsend, no. moved on to work on something else
[18:50] <mzanetti> let me try now
[18:51] <ChrisTownsend> mzanetti: dandrader: Ok
[18:52] <mzanetti> dandrader, hmm... interesting...
[18:53] <mzanetti> dandrader, so I started gedit, had just one cursor. then I clicked into gedit's menu, the cursor got stuck there and from the top left the second one appeared
[18:53] <dandrader> mzanetti, oh, don't do that!
[18:53] <mzanetti> dandrader, interesting thing is that the second cursor that appears is much faster than the first
[18:53] <dandrader> mzanetti, we don't support menus yet
[18:53] <mzanetti> right
[18:53] <dandrader> mzanetti, if will cause a new surface to be created to hold that menu. unity8 should blow up
[18:53] <dandrader> mzanetti, s/if/it
[18:54] <mzanetti> ChrisTownsend, hey, if I see gedit's window decoration, does that mean it runs in libertine?
[18:54] <ChrisTownsend> I see it when I click inside the gedit window.
[18:54] <ChrisTownsend> mzanetti: No, not libertine at all.
[18:54] <dandrader> mzanetti, gedit is drawing its own window decoration I think. from window manager's point of view it's a chrome-less window
[18:55] <dandrader> mzanetti, or should I say GTK
[18:55] <dandrader> mzanetti, another todo item: support "frameless" window hint or something like it
[18:56] <ChrisTownsend> Just clicking inside the gedit window will summon the second cursor.
[18:56] <mzanetti> had to reboot :D
[18:57] <dandrader> ChrisTownsend, hmmmm.... so it's not jsut by running gedit, like the bug report said
[18:58] <mzanetti> just clicking inside the text editor doesn't get it for me
[18:58] <ChrisTownsend> dandrader: No, I think I made a comment in the bug that entering the window will cause the second cursor to appear, but I think actually clicking in the window is what triggers it.
[18:58] <mzanetti> I can select text etc, all fine
[18:58] <ChrisTownsend> mzanetti: You don't have a second cursor?
[18:59] <dandrader> ChrisTownsend, I think Unity8 developers are immune to this bug :)
[18:59] <mzanetti> ChrisTownsend, not unless I click a menu
[18:59] <ChrisTownsend> dandrader: lol, you guys!
[18:59] <ChrisTownsend> mzanetti: Hmm
[18:59] <mzanetti> I can repro it tho with the menu...
[18:59] <mzanetti> unity doesn't immediately blow up, it gets me the second cursor... doing some more clicks it eventually blows up then
[19:00] <ChrisTownsend> Actually, this time, just entering the gedit window brought up the 2nd cursor.
[19:09] <mzanetti> ChrisTownsend, could it be that it tries to open some tooltip or something?
[19:09] <ChrisTownsend> mzanetti: No, I don't think so. I just move the regular cursor into the window and move it and then the 2nd appears.
[19:11] <mzanetti> hmpf... nope, not happening here
[19:12] <ChrisTownsend> mzanetti: I don't understand.:-(
[19:12] <ChrisTownsend> mzanetti: I also see this using Vivid+overlay.
[19:13] <mzanetti> http://i.imgur.com/HfkVqiq.jpg
[19:13] <mzanetti> I can select text with the mouse just fine
[19:14] <ChrisTownsend> mzanetti: Hmm, that kind of looks like the original cursor provided by Mir and not the new Unity8 cursor that is larger and fuzzier.
[19:14] <mzanetti> no, it's the slow one
[19:14] <mzanetti> high-dpi screen here
[19:14] <ChrisTownsend> mzanetti: Ah, ok:)
[19:15] <ChrisTownsend> mzanetti: Are you using a mouse or touchpad?
[19:15] <mzanetti> ChrisTownsend, speaking of which, can we scale gedit/gtk somehow?
[19:15] <mzanetti> touchpad
[19:15] <ChrisTownsend> mzanetti: I'm sure it can be, but I'm not sure how.
[19:15] <ChrisTownsend> mzanetti: Ok, I'm using touchpad as well.
[19:16] <mzanetti> I'm on v+o too, daniel is probably on x
[19:18] <ChrisTownsend> mzanetti: Well, I'm stumped as to why you guys don't see it, but I know of at least 4 different machines that get this issue.
[19:18] <ChrisTownsend> mzanetti: As dandrader said, I guess you guys are immune.
[19:19] <mzanetti> ChrisTownsend, how are you running it? starting a session from lightdm? unity8-desktop-session-mir?
[19:20] <ChrisTownsend> mzanetti: Yes, unity8-desktop-session-mir and using lightdm to login. All packages from the archive.
[19:20] <mzanetti> same here :/
[19:24] <ChrisTownsend> mzanetti: Hmm, something weird. I had my mouse over the window and was moving it slowly and didn't see the 2nd cursor. Then as I was moving it, it showed up on the edge of the window as if it became visible all of a sudden and then stayed visible. I wonder since you're on hi dpi if you keep moving the cursor around until the hidden cursor hits the window.
[19:28] <ChrisTownsend> mzanetti: dandrader: What code tells Mir to hide it's cursor?
[19:29] <ChrisTownsend> (I guess it's Mir cursor)
[19:29] <dandrader> ChrisTownsend, it's in qtmir
[19:29] <ChrisTownsend> dandrader: ok
[19:30] <dandrader> ChrisTownsend, it's kinda workaround. Mir is buggy when its comes to cursor visibility
[19:31] <dandrader> ChrisTownsend, grep for 1502200
[19:31] <dandrader> ChrisTownsend, (it's the bug number associated with the issue)
[19:31] <ChrisTownsend> dandrader: Ok, will do, thanks
[19:32] <dandrader> ChrisTownsend, and the fix (new api for wrapping mir cursor) is also buggy
[19:32] <bregma> I'm not on a high DPI screen when I see the second cursor
[19:33] <dandrader> bregma, screen DPI should be orthogonal to this issue
[19:33] <bregma> the supernumerarary cursor looks like a hardware cursor
[19:34] <bregma> maybe GTK is turning that on directly (it likes to take control) and Unity 8 only does software cursors
[19:35] <ChrisTownsend> bregma: I do get the issue when running X apps as well like LO and FF.
[19:36] <bregma> ChrisTownsend, on Unity 8? Don't those apps use GTK back ends where possible?
[19:37] <ChrisTownsend> bregma: I mean in a Libertine container, although I want to be clear that Libertine is not the culprit.
[19:41] <ChrisTownsend> I think screen resolution/DPI does have an effect on when the Mir cursor actually hits the gedit window.
[19:42] <ChrisTownsend> It's not the cause of the issue, only it hides the issue from occurring.
[19:43] <ChrisTownsend> Probably something in Mir that says show the cursor over these types of windows.
[19:59] <dandrader> ChrisTownsend, thing is, mir has no idea of what's going on in the unity8 qml scene
[20:00] <dandrader> ChrisTownsend, unity-system-compositor only knows that it's (hidden) cursor is over the unity8 surface, which takes the entire screen
[20:01] <dandrader> ChrisTownsend, the hardware cursor (that little bugger that pops up) is controlled by unity-system-compositor
[20:01] <ChrisTownsend> dandrader: Ok, thanks for the explanation.
[20:04] <ChrisTownsend> dandrader: Hmm, doing a quick look through u-s-c code, I don't see any calls to hide()/show() methods for the cursor. Would there be other method names that do the same thing?
[20:09] <dandrader> ChrisTownsend, I don't know that code. But I would think it's all in libmir itself
[20:09] <dandrader> ChrisTownsend, ie, Mir
[20:09] <ChrisTownsend> dandrader: Ok
[20:10] <dandrader> ChrisTownsend, it can be confusing. Because qtmir/unity8 uses libmir's server API, but it's in reality running as a nested server. It, from u-s-c perspective it's just a client application/surface
[20:11] <ChrisTownsend> dandrader: Yes, very confusing:)
[20:11] <dandrader> ChrisTownsend, so in the nested server code paths you have server API's calling client APIs behind the scenes to talk to unity-system-compositor
[20:12] <dandrader> ChrisTownsend, and that pretty much explains why the cursor API works so badly in a nested server
[20:12] <ChrisTownsend> dandrader: Sheesh, that's kind of messed up.
[20:13] <dandrader> ChrisTownsend, I mean, it makes sense. but must be hell to implement :)
[20:28] <ChrisTownsend> dandrader|afk: mzanetti: Rebuilding lightdm to disable "--enable-hardware-cursor=true" in it's call to unity-system-compositor no longer brings up the hardware cursor. Not sure what the side effects of that is.
[20:31] <mzanetti> yeah... I guess if it always loads all the things this can quickly become too memory consuming
[20:31] <mzanetti> wrong chat :D
[20:32] <mzanetti> ChrisTownsend, interesting. so when you see both cursors, does it still work fine? it's just a visual thing?
[20:33] <ChrisTownsend> mzanetti: The Unity 8 cursor is the one that works, the hardware cursor does not.
[20:33] <ChrisTownsend> mzanetti: I'm going to talk to robert_ancell about removing the hack in lightdm.
[20:52] <dandrader> ChrisTownsend, interesting
[22:42] <lpotter> hello
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ubuntu-chat
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"channel": "#ubuntu-unity"
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2015-11-18-#ubuntustudio
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[10:42] <Nijcsw> sup
[10:42] <Nijcsw> is jack broken on new or updated installs of ubuntustudio? any help to fix?
[17:58] <sakrecoer_> just found this: https://soundcloud.com/groups/ubuntu-studio
[17:59] <sakrecoer_> it is begging to be filled with delicious music made with ubuntu studio
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ubuntu-chat
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2024-05-13T22:11:18.789380
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"sakrecoer_"
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"channel": "#ubuntustudio"
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2015-11-18-#ubuntu-us-pa
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[10:26] <rmg51> Morning
[13:13] <lazypower> o/
[13:21] <teddy-dbear> Morning peoples, critters and everything else
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ubuntu-chat
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2024-05-13T22:11:18.790508
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"rmg51",
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2015-11-18-#ubuntu-gr
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[19:45] <Euaki> Νέα από ubuntusecurity: USN-2814-1: NVIDIA graphics drivers vulnerability <http://www.ubuntu.com/usn/usn-2814-1/>
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ubuntu-chat
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2024-05-13T22:11:18.793121
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"authors": [
"Euaki"
],
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2015-11-18-#ubuntu-community-team
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[07:32] <dholbach> good morning
[09:11] <czajkowski> aloha
[09:29] <popey> yo
[13:28] <balloons> Morning :)
[14:30] <mhall119> balloons: hey, what's a good website to point would-be testers at during my UbuCon presentation tomorrow?
[14:30] <balloons> either d.u.c/start/quality or QATeam wiki
[14:33] <dholbach> davidcalle, do you know how hard it is to push the upgrade branch to staging?
[14:35] <davidcalle> dholbach, very easy, can you merge to trunk, then production? Then ping me, and I'll run the thing :)
[14:36] <dholbach> davidcalle, sure...
[14:37] <dholbach> davidcalle, I just felt bad because https://code.launchpad.net/~developer-ubuntu-com-dev/developer-ubuntu-com/1470715/+merge/268471 just had my own approval ;-)
[14:38] <davidcalle> dholbach, hmm, sorry, this wasn't meant like "do everyhting and I'll push a button afterwards"
[14:39] <dholbach> no no
[14:39] <dholbach> that's not how I understood it :)
[14:39] <dholbach> you know how we Germans are... if we don't have the right rubberstamp, we don't do it
[14:40] <dholbach> and this MP just having my own vote of approval felt a bit like faking code review - anyway... in the interest of moving on... :)
[14:40] <davidcalle> dholbach, so, regarding the upgrade process, if we update the site to this branch, what happens until update-1470715 is ran? The site keeps working fine?
[14:41] <davidcalle> The only thing I haven't tested in this branch is running it with the make command, so I'm farily confident in having this on staging :)
[14:41] <dholbach> I think I'd take the site down for this brief time of upgrading - if all goes well it's 5 seconds of "bzr merge + make update-1470715"
[14:41] <dholbach> if not... it takes longer :)
[14:42] <dholbach> davidcalle, ok, I updated both branches
[14:42] <davidcalle> dholbach, the thing is, what's published, is not a branch, so it can't be merged
[14:42] <dholbach> ok, then replaced or whatever the mechanism of updating is
[14:42] <davidcalle> dholbach, nevermind, that's silly, upgrading the instance is the same as merging
[14:43] <dholbach> davidcalle, I guess the dependencies branch also needs updating
[14:44] <davidcalle> dholbach, oh, indeed. I've just started the update on staging. /me watches for deps failure
[14:44] <dholbach> can you run pip on there?
[14:45] <davidcalle> dholbach, with a lot of pain, it would be better to update the deps branch
[14:45] <dholbach> ok - it'll just take ages to push it from here
[14:45] <dholbach> is it 'make update-pip-cache'?
[14:46] <davidcalle> dholbach, yep, I can do it, my connection is happy today
[14:46] * dholbach aborts
[14:47] * davidcalle fetches coffee during upload
[14:47] <dholbach> <3
[15:43] <davidcalle> dholbach, first deployment crashed when running migrations (no useful traceback). Trying again.
[15:48] <dholbach> was there any output at all?
[15:51] <davidcalle> dholbach, "django.db.utils.ProgrammingError: relation "django_content_type" already exists"
[15:52] <davidcalle> dholbach, during the make update-common step. But let me try a completely fresh one in a moment.
[15:54] * davidcalle back in a moment
[16:49] <balloons> dpm, you can tag me on the governance and leadership talk if you wish. It's something I find interesting
[16:49] <dpm> awesome
[17:12] <dholbach> have a great rest of your day - see you all tomorrow!
[18:26] <balloons> http://community.ubuntu.com/google-code-in/ is now live. Not sure if it should be or needs to be linked from anywhere
[18:26] <balloons> feel free to edit away
[19:00] <dpm> balloons, good work in setting up the landing page. Just some quick feedback: it seems like page is missing some margins and it's breaking the header
[19:00] <dpm> it might be worth putting in under a 2nd-level navigation item?
[19:43] <balloons> dpm, interesting. I'll look into why it might be breaking things, I have an idea
[19:44] <balloons> dpm, on the navigation bit, I'm open to putting it wherever. I'm not sure if it will be long-lived or not, so I didn't want to force it too many places
[19:49] <samsruti> Hi balloons
[19:50] <samsruti> I got some interesting thing
[19:50] <samsruti> http://goo.gl/forms/gBwYzX3ZPO
[19:50] <samsruti> check this link
[19:51] <samsruti> ^popey , ^jose
[20:11] <balloons> samsruti, hello
[20:11] <davidcalle> balloons, hey Nick, do you mind if I do a small layout tweak on the code-in page on c.u.c?
[20:11] <balloons> samsruti, did you create that?
[20:11] <balloons> davidcalle, no, please, go for it
[20:12] <balloons> I need to impelement David's idea for adding it to the menu as well. Feel free to tackle as much of making it look nice and work as you'd like like :-)
[20:13] <davidcalle> balloons, updated the page, add what to the menu?
[20:14] <balloons> davidcalle, dpm mentioned adding it to a second level menu
[20:14] <balloons> suggestions welcome
[20:15] <balloons> I see it's got a new linky ow
[20:17] <davidcalle> balloons, I haven't touched the content, just the padding around it :) Maybe it could go under contribute, but in this case, there probably should be a row about it on the home page.
[20:18] <balloons> davidcalle, unless my eyes decieve me it's part of the main header bar now
[20:19] <davidcalle> balloons, and you weren't seeing it this way before?
[20:20] <davidcalle> balloons, because it was like that for me before I touched anything, I'm not guilty :p
[20:21] <balloons> davidcalle, I hadn't looked at the main site. I'm guessing dpm went ahead and made the tweak, lol
[20:21] <davidcalle> balloons, ah right :)
[20:21] <balloons> thamnks for fixing things!
[20:23] <davidcalle> balloons, my pleasure :) Enoy the rest of your day, I'm going back to my family evening. By the way, how is Lorelai?
[20:23] <samsruti> yeah i create that
[20:24] <balloons> davidcalle, she's over 4.5 kilos today :-)
[20:25] <balloons> davidcalle, enjoy your evening
[20:25] <davidcalle> balloons, nice :-)
[20:25] <davidcalle> Thanks!
[20:25] <balloons> samsruti, it's an interesting idea to have a form, but I'm not sure we need it
[20:29] <balloons> I'd be curious to pass that past the other admins, but they aren't around at the moment
[20:30] <samsruti_> hmm
[20:30] <balloons> I like how you matched the GCI theme though, it looks nice :-)
[20:30] <samsruti_> hehe thanks :)
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2015-11-18-#ubuntu-hr
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[06:53] <SilverSpace> jutro
[07:14] <BotaniCar> Jutro, junaci
[07:30] <pkiller> jutro junče :)
[07:31] <BotaniCar> MUUU!
[07:40] <Mmike> tuntulator u laptopu se vrti na 65535 okretaja :)
[07:43] <BotaniCar> Usisavac u ruke :)
[07:50] <SilverSpace> lol
[07:50] <SilverSpace> iznesi ga van :)
[07:50] <SilverSpace> kaj ga drzis na radijatoru
[07:55] <BotaniCar> Mislim da imam najtise servere u datacentru,imaju pasivne hladnjake i aktivne ventilatore kucista
[07:58] <SilverSpace> BotaniCar: trebali bi se grijati na tim serverima tj. sve prostorje u firmi
[07:58] <BotaniCar> U biti se ne griju jako
[07:58] <SilverSpace> sjecam se u ini kak je to grijalo
[07:59] <SilverSpace> doduse to se sa danasnjim ne moze usporediti
[08:01] <SilverSpace> maknuoo splash screen i sad mi vise nece stat boot da vidim gdje u biti stane
[08:02] <SilverSpace> jebo racunalo
[08:05] <BotaniCar> Splash screen ti je blokirao racunalo !
[08:05] <SilverSpace> BotaniCar: ne nego sam htio vidjeti zasto se ne digne kad ga ujutro upalim
[08:05] <SilverSpace> moram resetirati
[08:06] <SilverSpace> da bi ubuntu startao
[08:06] <BotaniCar> SilverSpace: sad ti velim zakaj, splash screen ! :
[08:06] <SilverSpace> maknuo ga iz gruba da virim tekst
[08:07] <SilverSpace> i vec dva dana nece stat boot
[08:07] <SilverSpace> cisto sumnjam da je to do splash screen
[08:07] <BotaniCar> Ako nisi dirao nikaj drugo, onda je zakljucak jasan !
[08:08] <SilverSpace> http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-IonZ3o7p4Kc/UZIbh8bhT9I/AAAAAAAACSc/GPjg91py7S8/s1600/boot1.png
[08:08] <SilverSpace> tu je uvjek stao
[08:08] <BotaniCar> Kladim se u placu da si napravio jos nekaj dok si micao splash, ali si zaboravio
[08:09] <SilverSpace> nista
[08:09] <BotaniCar> Mhmm
[08:09] <SilverSpace> inace se racunalo normalno ponasa i u sys nema nis
[08:15] <SilverSpace> zanimljivo da to ne napravi ni jednom kad ga rebootam samo ujutro kad ga prvi puta upalim
[08:16] <SilverSpace> mozda bi morao malo kablove prodrmati
[08:30] <BotaniCar> Wireless zdrmaj :)
[09:25] <pkiller> jel se netko igrao sa rasberry pi 2 B
[09:47] <Mmike> BotaniCar!
[09:47] <Mmike> BotaniCar: daj se ponasaj, molim te :)
[09:49] <BotaniCar> Kaj sam napravio ili zaboravio napraviti ?
[09:49] <BotaniCar> daj mail
[09:54] <Mmike> http://www.index.hr/vijesti/clanak/putin-prastanje-teroristima-je-na-bogu-na-meni-je-da--ih-k-njemu-posaljem/856726.aspx
[09:54] <Mmike> kaj bi mislio o tom liku, fakat ne znam :)
[09:57] <jelly> ja mislim ovo: diktatura je bolja od anarhije
[09:58] <BotaniCar> Pogotovo ako si s prave strane puske/bombardera
[10:24] <SilverSpace> yah
[10:25] <Mmike> ja mislim ovo:
[10:25] <Mmike> trebam jos jednu kavu
[10:27] <BotaniCar> Hvala na podsjetniku, nisam ni prethodnu ispio
[10:27] <BotaniCar> Vec je k'o led
[10:34] <SilverSpace> muka mi od ovih pametnjakovica kaj sve znaju kak je bilo u vukovaru i hrvatskoj 91
[10:37] * Mmike voli hladnu kavu
[10:37] <Mmike> SilverSpace: meni isto muka, najvise od onih debila u savskoj
[10:37] <Mmike> onda od debila na markovom trgu
[10:37] <Mmike> i onda od debila karamarkovskih
[10:37] <Mmike> koji su na trecem mjestu samo zato kaj nisu na markovom trgu
[10:37] <Mmike> DI SI TI BIO '41VE?!
[10:40] <jelly> Mmike: kojih u savskoj, onih ispred ili onih na katu
[10:40] <Mmike> jelly: :)
[10:40] <Mmike> onih ispred
[10:51] <BotaniCar> Danas nije samo godisnjica pada vukovara, vec i 30 godina C&H stripa :)
[11:18] <Mmike> Kad nesto kosta 100 kuna, i das popust od 15 posto, koliko to kosta?
[11:18] <Mmike> BotaniCar: calvin und hobbes?
[11:18] <BotaniCar> Jah jah
[11:19] <BotaniCar> Mmike: trik pitanje ili smijem napisati "85kn" ?
[11:19] <BotaniCar> jel popust prije ili poslije PDVa ?
[11:27] <Mmike> 85+15% = 97.75! DI je dve kune i dvajspet lipa? :)
[11:31] <Mmike> 🙈 <- jel' vidite ovaj znak?
[11:35] <dodobas> yutro
[11:36] <BotaniCar> Mmike: nekaj vidim,ali nisam siguran kaj gledam (znaj )
[11:36] <BotaniCar> *znak
[11:36] <Mmike> BotaniCar: a tu: http://splivalo.hr/m/freyes.html
[11:36] <Mmike> dobis nekaj ili dobis kucicu?
[11:36] <Mmike> dodobas: aj i ti baci oko
[11:36] <BotaniCar> Dobijem nekaj kaj izgleda kao guzica pokrivena rukama
[11:37] <BotaniCar> .. ili glava
[11:37] <Mmike> da, majmun koji place, recimo
[11:37] <dodobas> znak ne vidim...
[11:37] <dodobas> niti ga mogu kopirati
[11:38] <BotaniCar> 🙈 🙈 🙈 🙈 🙈 🙈 🙈 🙈 🙈 🙈 🙈 🙈 🙈 🙈 🙈 🙈 🙈 🙈 🙈 🙈 🙈 🙈 🙈 🙈 🙈 🙈 🙈 🙈 🙈 🙈 🙈 🙈 🙈 🙈 🙈 🙈 🙈 🙈 🙈 🙈 🙈 🙈 🙈 🙈 🙈 🙈 🙈
[11:38] <Mmike> nda
[11:38] <Mmike> noviji ubuntuji pokazu normalno to
[11:38] <Mmike> moj nece
[11:39] <Mmike> cudi me da na archu opce imas slova, dodobas :)
[11:39] <BotaniCar> fakat, koristim ubuntu :)
[11:39] <dodobas> koji font ?
[11:39] <BotaniCar> MONOSPACE
[11:40] <dodobas> nah...
[11:49] <Mmike> BotaniCar: koji ubuntu?
[11:49] <BotaniCar> 15.10
[11:49] <BotaniCar> Znas da sam trendy :)
[11:50] <Mmike> fakat
[11:50] <Mmike> idem bas probat
[11:50] <Mmike> trebo mi amis doc jucer
[11:50] <Mmike> nisu dosli
[12:07] <BotaniCar> Jesi gotov Mmike ? Nemoj da se vec niej deployalo, ipak ti imas openstack i juju skillz :D
[12:07] <BotaniCar> Do sad si ih morao bar 13 postavit' i konfigurirat'
[12:09] <Mmike> ma nisam
[12:09] <Mmike> nit krenuop
[12:57] <jelly> majmun koji ne vidi zlo
[13:43] <Hrki> pozdrav, decki imam pitanje
[13:43] <Hrki> je moguce
[13:43] <Hrki> da recimo ako saljem mailove sa porta 25, not encriptet
[13:43] <Hrki> da mailovi dolaze kak spada, a ako je enkriptet starttls port 587
[13:44] <Hrki> da zavrse u spam folderu ?
[13:48] <jelly> Hrki: pitas "da li se moze desiti" ili "da li se sustav moze konfigurirati tako da se desi ovo" ?
[13:49] <jelly> odgovor na oboje je "u nacelu da", makar je beskoristan za drugo pitanje
[13:49] <Mmike> jelly: :)
[13:50] <jelly> jeibga, sve je moguce ;-)
[13:51] <jelly> najvise je moguce da korisnik postavi pitanje koje mu nece rijesiti stvarni problem :-D
[13:53] <pkiller> Hrki: konfiguriraš server ili klijent? :)
[13:53] <Mmike> /usr/lib/postgresql/9.3/bin/pg_restore: unrecognized option '--help'
[13:53] <Mmike> Try "pg_restore --help" for more information.
[13:53] <jelly> pkiller: da
[13:53] <jelly> Mmike: :-D
[13:56] <jelly> Mmike: — ?
[13:57] <pkiller> Hrki: bez DKIM-a u dnsu bi ti već trebao ići u spam :)
[13:57] <Mmike> jelly: funky one, right? :)
[13:57] <Mmike> k'o da mysql imam :)
[13:58] <jelly> Meni Radi™
[14:01] <Hrki> aj, doma cu vam detaljnije objasnit, brb
[14:05] <Mmike> jelly: ma namjerno sam picka - napisi: pg_restore -j24 -v --help
[14:07] <Mmike> kad updateirate xperiju koja ima upaljenu 'stamnia mode' za cuvanje baterije, onda mobitel, kad se ugasi ekran, ugasi i internet i sve
[14:07] <Mmike> i onda updatei failaju
[14:07] <Mmike> kaki fail :)
[14:43] <dodobas> pokakio motku... taki fail...
[14:43] <dodobas> :)
[14:45] <obruT> Mmike: vdsl kazes...
[14:54] <jelly> ha. napravim si kalendar za kino na mobitelu, konspirativno opis "Le Cinema" a mobitel djubre skuzi i stavi sliku kokica i ulaznice
[14:56] <jelly> da sam napisao "kino" vjerojatno ne bi skuzio
[15:15] <obruT> skoro nas uapsilo maloprije
[15:17] <jelly> di
[15:17] <obruT> vozimo se kolega i ja sa sastanka, obojica bradonje, u rentacar autu (rentala firma)... kad auto ispred nas upali one lampice, pokaze frajer rukom da skrenemo, dokumente na sunce, papire od auta, cak i moje dokumente (ja suvozac)... pregled gepeka (unutra switchevi i kabeli : P )
[15:17] <obruT> na ljubljanskoj... izmedju sky officea i selske
[15:17] <obruT> frajer u civilu, onak najobicnije obucen, znacka za lancicu oko vrata...
[15:18] <jelly> vjerojatno imaju upute da provjeravaju bradonje zbog pariza
[15:18] <obruT> jos kolega iz zajebancije kaze tipu: "zbog brada, ha ? :)" ... tipu nije bilo smijesno :)
[15:18] <jelly> ha-ha only serious
[15:19] <obruT> i bome isprovjeravali dokumente, frajer je valjda procito sva tri lista papira od rentacara
[15:19] <jelly> kakvi ste to si sistemci ak nemate sluzbeni auto negdje na raspolaganju
[15:19] <obruT> kao: "auto je rentala firma, HT" ... a frajer onak spolupovjerenjem: "radite u HT-u ?" ... iako mozda ne izgledamo tako :)
[15:20] <jelly> sad si old bearded unix guy
[15:20] <obruT> jelly: imamo sluzbene aute za teren, ovo je auto koji je kolega dobio bas za njega, dok mu ne srede njegov sluzbeni auto, daju mu rentacar
[15:20] <jelly> jeste ga pitali za znacku i broj
[15:21] <obruT> nismo, nije mi palo na pamet jer nas nije maltretirao
[15:32] <jelly> ako neko legitimira mene, nekak mi je ok da i ja legitimiram njega :-)
[15:32] <jelly> pogotovo u civilki
[15:52] <obruT> jelly: cujem da se kod vas nesto testirao g.fast, jel znas sto o tome ? jel se testiralo, jel se planira stogod ?
[16:01] <jelly> obruT: prvi put cujem :-)
[16:01] <jelly> tj. drugi put cujem, zadnji put kad sam cuo trebalo je dobit dozvolu od hakoma i za testiranje
[16:03] <jelly> #onokad obruT zna vise od mene sto se desava u mojoj firmi
[16:05] <obruT> danas sam bio na prezentaciji tehnologije i plana pa je frajer spomenuo vas :)
[16:07] <jelly> veli kolega da se stvarno testira
[16:08] <obruT> danas nam frajer prica o tome, kak se ide u test na pravim lokacijama, a svi mi "gdje gdje", jel moze kod mene :)
[16:50] <Mmike> obruT, doslo upravo, sad cu pristekat
[16:51] <obruT> ma taj vdsl je obsolete, zivio g.fast :)
[17:01] <Mmike> stogod samo da je brze :)
[17:01] <Mmike> idem se prestekat
[17:01] <Mmike> vidimo se skoro
[18:40] <Mmike> i tak
[18:40] <Mmike> i dalje smo na sporom internetu
[18:44] <Mmike> 10Mbit dolje, 512kbit gore :/
[20:06] <vileni> Mmike: to novi spor ili stari spor?
[20:10] <Vlado9A3CY> dobra vecer
[20:20] <Mmike> vileni, spor?
[20:26] <vileni> Mmike: pa internet
[20:53] <Mmike> vileni, aha
[20:53] <Mmike> vileni, novi spor, navodno nije jos netko kliknuo di treba
[20:53] <vileni> pa neka kliknu :)
[20:53] <vileni> kakve su to brzine u ovom stoljecu
[20:53] <Mmike> oho!
[20:53] <Mmike> izgleda da jesu!
[20:53] <vileni> koliko je sd :)
[20:54] <Mmike> mjerim
[20:54] <Mmike> 20/2
[20:55] <Mmike> razocaran sam
[20:55] <Mmike> mislio sam da ce bit bar 10 u UL
[20:55] <Mmike> sutra cemo zvat
[20:55] <Mmike> vileni, kol'ko ti placas iskon optiku?
[20:55] <vileni> 180 mislim
[20:55] <vileni> nije optika
[20:56] <vileni> vdsl
[20:57] <Mmike> i kol'ko ti je UL/DL?
[20:58] <vileni> 42/7
[20:59] <SilverSpace> no da
[21:00] <SilverSpace> Mmike: nije ti muka onog na katu ratnog profitera ha
[21:01] <SilverSpace> koji je dobio preko veze 100% invalidnost
[21:01] <SilverSpace> nažalost nije jedini
[21:02] <SilverSpace> odoh LN
[21:02] <Mmike> SilverSpace, nope, taj mi je totalno irelevantan, stovise, cini mi se jedan od rijetkih u vladi koji bi mogao bit ok
[21:02] <Mmike> al' ono, neznam nist o tome tak da, neznam
[21:03] <Mmike> daleko mi je vise muka satorasa, idijoti, neobrazovani majmuni, njih 50 se naslo srat
[21:03] <Mmike> a onaj glogoski, lazov samo taki
[21:03] <Mmike> e, ti mi najvise idu na jetra
[21:03] <Mmike> a onda drug milanovic
[21:03] <Mmike> i debili oko njega
[21:03] <Mmike> ovog mornara danas
[21:03] <Mmike> 'nemamo para za informatiku'
[21:03] <Mmike> al' za vjeronauk imamo
[21:03] <Mmike> i za microsoft isto imamo
[21:04] <Mmike> vileni, pa, to opce nije lose
[21:04] <vileni> Mmike: pa znam da nije, ali nadam sam se optici :)
[21:04] <vileni> placam kao 50/10
[21:05] <Mmike> sad gledam dostupnost na iskon.hr
[21:05] <Mmike> iveli da mogu dobit max 10/.512
[21:05] <Mmike> wat?
[21:06] <vileni> nije ti vdsl dostupan ocito
[21:06] <Mmike> dostupna mi optika od tcoma
[21:09] <Mmike> sam kaj je to 300 kuna
[21:11] <Mmike> malo klikanja po tcom stranicama i skuzio sam zasto ne zelim posla s njima imat
[21:11] <Mmike> idem spat
[21:28] <ivoks> lol
[21:28] <ivoks> http://themindunleashed.org/2015/11/anonymous-takes-down-5500-isis-accounts-24-hours-after-isis-called-them-idiots.html
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2015-11-18-#ubuntu-discuss
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[00:16] <pauljw> biab
[00:16] <daftykins> never did like HackerII, so the defamatory comments make sense
[01:01] <OerHeks> daftykins, 8 GBP is about € 12 ?? http://www.staples.nl/usb-sticks/cbs/5893476.html
[01:02] <daftykins> yep
[01:03] <daftykins> yeah that's the exact set :D
[01:03] <daftykins> https://www.dropbox.com/s/kyjytcbwy2mmps8/IMG_20151109_181205.jpg?dl=0
[01:03] <daftykins> another evil dropbox link
[01:05] <OerHeks> 8 gbp is cheaper than with us ...
[01:05] <OerHeks> still, very cheap for this offer.
[01:07] <daftykins> this user is high maintenance :P
[01:07] <daftykins> i still haven't tested 2 actually
[01:07] * daftykins plugs in
[02:20] <TJ-> *almost* ready to reinstall android OS on the dumbPDA
[02:22] <daftykins> PDA o0
[02:23] <TJ-> I refuse to call them 'smart' or 'phones' since they're generall neither!
[02:24] <daftykins> :D
[02:24] <daftykins> high school educated!
[02:24] <TJ-> This thing embarassed me today, left me stranded whilst viewing property.
[02:27] <daftykins> doh :(
[02:34] <daftykins> hopefully i will obtain that Nexus 5 soon and get to operate on it 8)
[02:36] <TJ-> This is an HTC One M8, Cyanogenmod on it, but it runs out of space continuously and started behaving strangely. High pitched growl/buzz instead of speaker sounds randomly happen, or messages/calls are not received
[02:37] <TJ-> So, I'm backing up the SD-Cardd (32G) and internal (16G) onto the PC and wiping it to let the wear levelling and bad-block recovery have a chance, then installing afresh
[02:38] <daftykins> ah no way, i have one of those from my mum to sell
[02:40] <daftykins> i'm gonna head off for a film and then sleep, g'night \o
[02:41] <TJ-> The device is nice, it's the way Android never handles the situation properly... warns space is running out at 5% ... doesn't say "I'm silently discarding this data/event without the app even knowing about it or telling you"
[02:41] <daftykins> mmm, i've heard android compared to windows for the slowly self-mutilating approach :D
[02:42] <TJ-> I blamed my large collection of audiobooks but it turned out it wasn't those at all, it was loads of hidden files being silently cached over lots of applications. Not sure if thats an app-design thing or a 'feature' of Android core
[02:42] <daftykins> ah yes, that's a one tap clear :)
[02:42] <TJ-> These weren't files the App Manager's Clear Cache cleared, though
[02:43] <daftykins> oh even weirder then
[02:43] <TJ-> It'll take me some time to go through the backups to understand what it all is, but I needed it off the device so I can get it working reliably again
[02:44] <daftykins> at least it's not that awful stock ROM \o/
[02:44] <daftykins> i don't like how HTC make their android versions look, or function... or anything :D
[02:47] <TJ-> I prefer as close to AOSP as possible, but cyanogenmod takes a lot of the additional work out of the job. I use Racoon instead of installing Gapps so there's no Google spyware/phone-home/play-store on it
[02:47] <TJ-> So I have Racoon on the desktop with a throw-away Google account on play store
[04:55] <lotuspsychje> good morning to all
[05:03] <TJ-> urgh! :D
[05:04] <lotuspsychje> TJ-: hi there
[05:04] <lotuspsychje> http://news.softpedia.com/news/ubuntu-16-04-lts-xenial-xerus-to-be-rebased-on-linux-kernel-4-3-soon-496327.shtml
[09:36] <lotuspsychje> good morning to all
[09:37] <lotuspsychje> cfhowlett: saw the mailing list, where can i vote for you?
[09:37] <cfhowlett> ??? eh, whot?
[09:37] <lotuspsychje> cfhowlett: vote for you as @
[09:37] <lotuspsychje> your on the list right?
[09:38] <cfhowlett> which list would that be?
[09:38] <lotuspsychje> holdon ill pastebin the mail
[09:40] <lotuspsychje> cfhowlett: http://paste.ubuntu.com/13326614/
[09:41] <lotuspsychje> im member of the irc ubuntu mailing list
[09:41] <cfhowlett> lotuspsychje, that's why I didn't see this! I'm not on that list.
[09:41] <cfhowlett> but yeah, I do remember applying or the ubuntustudio list. never heard anything of it
[09:42] <lotuspsychje> cfhowlett: want me to reply him i vote for you?
[09:42] * cfhowlett blushes
[09:42] <cfhowlett> if you feel I'm so deserving, why yes!
[09:43] <lotuspsychje> ok here goes
[09:45] <lotuspsychje> cfhowlett: voted :p
[09:52] <lotuspsychje> http://news.softpedia.com/news/ubuntu-16-10-to-have-unity-8-mir-and-snappy-personal-as-default-496340.shtml
[10:00] <cfhowlett> didn't I read somewhere that UDS in person was coming back?
[10:01] <lotuspsychje> cfhowlett: who's uds?
[10:02] <cfhowlett> Ubuntu Developer Summit
[10:02] <lotuspsychje> ah yeah, read an article about that, not sure where anymore
[10:02] <lotuspsychje> maybe insights.ubuntu
[10:04] <lotuspsychje> cfhowlett: http://uds.ubuntu.com/
[10:07] <lotuspsychje> bbl guys
[13:10] <BluesKaj> Howdy all
[15:03] <lotuspsychje> NSFW: https://webchat.anonops.com/?channels=OpParis
[15:17] <BluesKaj> lotuspsychje, ??
[15:18] <lotuspsychje> BluesKaj: related to isis vs anonymous
[19:32] <lotuspsychje> good evening to all
[19:37] <Bashing-om> lotuspsychje: o/ .. sleep apnia ?
[19:38] <lotuspsychje> hey Bashing-om 20h37 here :p
[19:39] <Bashing-om> Well, then it is a good evening .
[19:39] <lotuspsychje> yeah :p
[19:41] <OerHeks> hi lotus & Bashing-om
[19:41] <lotuspsychje> hey OerHeks how are you
[19:43] <Bashing-om> OerHeks: Looks like I am settled in and caught up on the channel . Let's see what we can learn today !
[19:43] <lotuspsychje> https://insights.ubuntu.com/2015/11/17/magicstick-and-ubuntu-core-redefining-the-pc-on-stick-experience/
[19:47] <lotuspsychje> nice idea on a tv
[19:47] <Bashing-om> lotuspsychje: UHHHhh .. The times they are achange'n ! .. All that from the comfort of the sofa !
[19:48] <lotuspsychje> yea :p
[19:50] <OerHeks> ugh, another hdmi device, big thing hanging on your connector.
[19:50] <OerHeks> without extentioncord, i would not risc it :-(
[19:52] <lotuspsychje> :p
[19:54] <OerHeks> did you get OTA-8 today ?
[19:55] <lotuspsychje> OerHeks: not yet : (
[19:55] <lotuspsychje> OerHeks: might be tomorrow
[19:56] <lotuspsychje> it was late on ota7 last time also
[19:56] <OerHeks> oh oke
[21:33] <MonkeyDust> installed MacBuntu, with a ppa in a vm... have to admit, it's beautiful
[21:41] <OerHeks> :-)
[23:34] * OerHeks facepalms..lonely people find the largest channels to make fun
[23:36] <daftykins> :)
[23:36] <daftykins> i have to admit i kinda pushed that guy a bit further so he'd get himself kicked
[23:46] <OerHeks> Octavius - zero0 ...
[23:46] <daftykins> mmm
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[00:00] <daftykins> hylian: no /dev is mounted to /mnt/dev
[00:00] <BlastRed> Thanks for the help anyway!
[00:00] <daftykins> hylian: sorry but i think you need to back up, sounds like none of this was followed quite correctly.
[00:00] <Jordan_U> daftykins: I actually disagree, as the solutions to any of the hardware problems (that affect the operation of Ubuntu) are specific to Ubuntu.
[00:00] <hylian> daftykins: it is specialty mounted. folders are block bsg bus char, etc.
[00:00] <daftykins> Jordan_U: i'm talking about the physical drive swap part.
[00:00] <daftykins> we just got asked which is the HDD...
[00:01] <daftykins> hylian: sorry i'm giving up, what you just said makes no sense
[00:01] <Bashing-om> BlastRed: I was goofing off .. lemme catch up .
[00:01] <Jordan_U> daftykins: Ahh, yes I missed that. That is indeed for ##hardwre.
[00:02] <hylian> daftykins: it IS mounted to /mnt/dev, as you requested, so I am asking what to do next, ok? (sorry i f I am unclear)\
[00:04] <daftykins> i don't have much confidence in this right now.
[00:04] <hylian> daftykins: please, continue
[00:04] <daftykins> no because all of this is pointless if you did anything earlier wrong
[00:04] <mcornstu> Has anyone had success getting Ubuntu (any version) on a Lenovo 100S?
[00:04] <mcornstu> The 32-bit Baytrail UEFI is killing me
[00:05] <hylian> daftykins: i followed your instructions, everything is mounted, please for the love of god dont leave me hanging now
[00:05] <HackerII> he does things like that.
[00:05] <daftykins> that's a complete lie, HackerII
[00:06] <daftykins> hylian: you can try "update-initramfs -u" but i think you did something wrong.
[00:07] <cblake> How to enforce a certain device driver for a certain sound card ?!
[00:07] <daftykins> blacklist the alternative perhaps
[00:07] <OerHeks> mcornstu, 32 bit uefi ... https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UEFI nt sure it can be done
[00:08] <daftykins> mcornstu OerHeks - yeah i remember seeing a workaround on the bug tracker
[00:08] <brack9> What does it mean when an interface in /etc/network/interfaces has the suffix "sX" where X is an integer?
[00:08] <mcornstu> Thanks! This thing is driving me nuts
[00:09] <mcornstu> I can boot into grub, but I am stuck at a grub prompt
[00:09] <daftykins> brack9: so what are you seeing in full?
[00:09] <mcornstu> the installer doesnt fire for e
[00:09] <brack9> daftykins: eth0s1
[00:09] <OerHeks> mcornstu, install in legacy/bios mode
[00:10] <daftykins> hylian: so did you run it or did HackerII run off with you in a PM to give you bad advice...
[00:10] <mcornstu> I dont think the 100s has a legacy bios
[00:10] <mcornstu> pretty sure its straight EFI
[00:11] <daftykins> mcornstu: did you see http://askubuntu.com/questions/392719/32-bit-uefi-boot-support ?
[00:11] <hylian> daftykins: update-initramfs -u says "disabled since running on read only media". I have run this command from the normal hd, but
[00:12] <daftykins> hylian: so you mean you're no longer booted into the live session?
[00:12] <hylian> daftykins: no i mean i am, since my usb is read only.
[00:13] <daftykins> you need to be running this command from inside the chroot, so you've done something wrong as i suggested
[00:13] <hylian> daftykins: ok. hmmm
[00:14] <daftykins> the guide i gave you wasn't that great, perhaps you should reboot and start again
[00:16] <Jordan_U> daftykins: It seems that booting from a liveCD/USB then chrooting is a lot of extra work when hylian can apparently easily boot their installed system (by manually mounting /dev/sda1 then exiting the initramfs shell, allowing boot to continue normally).
[00:17] <daftykins> i debated that, but chose not to pursue it that way
[00:17] <daftykins> you're welcome to steer it that way if you fancy, i feel i got lied to in place of being asked for more detailed help so i don't fancy wasting more time
[00:19] <hylian> daftykins: /quit
[00:20] <Jordan_U> mcornstu: Have you already installed Ubuntu or are you still trying to get the installer to boot?
[00:23] <akkad> https://github.com/ion1/workaround-upstart-snafu wow is upstart really this fragile?
[00:25] <OerHeks> akkad, old post, still valid?
[00:25] <akkad> running into it right now :P
[00:26] <caveman> hi - is wubi.exe discontinued? :(
[00:26] <Jordan_U> !wubi | caveman
[00:26] <caveman> Jordan_U, i don't have cd drive...
[00:27] <Glamdring> This is kind of a silly question, but what is radeonsi_dri.so? I tried Googling this, and as usual, my Google fu is awful and isn't telling me much.
[00:27] <OerHeks> cddrive does not take you fas, the isos are too big to fit on cd
[00:27] <OerHeks> fas-far
[00:27] <OerHeks> caveman, use an usb or sdcard
[00:27] <caveman> ok
[00:28] <akkad> https://bugs.launchpad.net/upstart/+bug/406397 still an issue on lts :[
[00:28] <Guest52742> ola
[00:28] <Jordan_U> caveman: OK, then your options (in order of ease of use) are: USB drive, netboot, install on another machine and transfer the HD over, load from Windows' bootloader via ntldr-image and loop boot Ubuntu's install image from an iso on your ntfs partition using the toram kernel parameter.
[00:29] <v3rt190> hi
[00:30] <caveman> Jordan_U, thank you. i will usb stick it
[00:30] <Jordan_U> akkad: The workaroud you posted should work, as ugly as it is, and to prevent the problem in the future you just have to write your upstart jobs appropriately.
[00:31] <Jordan_U> caveman: You're welcome.
[00:31] <akkad> makes sense.
[00:31] <akkad> fork bomb and hope there is no pid reuse. :P
[00:32] <isReKT2000> !insall
[00:32] <isReKT2000> !install
[00:34] <Jordan_U> akkad: Not quite a fork bomb as all of the children die quickly, and you're banking on the fact that the PID *will* be re-used by one of the children. (And if it's already been re-used by a process not created by the script, the script will offer to kill that process for you).
[00:34] <mib_mib> hi all, i have a machine with 2x480GB SSDs and 2x960GB SSDs - i want this to be a database server, and am wondering what RAID anyone would recommend here?
[00:35] <akkad> beyond words
[00:37] <Jordan_U> akkad: There's a reason that Ubuntu switched to systemd :) But this channel is for help with support questions, not for complaining about problems (however frustrating they are).
[00:37] <VictoriaXOXO> Q: Does AppArmor (or whatever it is called) come with Ubuntu 14.04 LTS?
[00:37] <Jordan_U> VictoriaXOXO: Yes.
[00:37] <akkad> no complaints
[00:38] <VictoriaXOXO> Jordan_U: How do I find it? :/
[00:38] <Glamdring> This is kind of a silly question, but what is radeonsi_dri.so? I tried Googling this, and as usual, my Google fu is awful and isn't telling me much. I ask because one of my Linux-native games won't start, hits a segmentation fault, and this is part of the error.
[00:38] <Jordan_U> VictoriaXOXO: I'm not sure what you're expecting to "find". What is your end goal?
[00:38] <OerHeks> sudo apparmor_status
[00:38] * akkad notes Jordan_U is the sort of retard that leads to this sort of acceptance of horribly thought out code. no wonder it's all going to hell
[00:39] <daftykins> mib_mib: i don't really find that SSD configuration suitable for solely a db server at all o0
[00:39] <daftykins> mib_mib: what kind of db will it be?
[00:39] <VictoriaXOXO> Jordan_U: There's no GUI settings I can look at?
[00:40] <daftykins> VictoriaXOXO: what are you trying to achieve?
[00:41] <VictoriaXOXO> daftykins: I just want to look at it.
[00:41] <daftykins> like you would a painting?
[00:42] <VictoriaXOXO> :P
[00:42] <VictoriaXOXO> Well, I can use gufw to look at my ufw settings. No GAppArmor for AppArmor?
[00:45] <OerHeks> There is no gui for apparmor.
[00:45] <VictoriaXOXO> :(
[00:58] <VictoriaXOXO> Q: Are there any versions of Ubuntu (with a GUI/DE) that fits on a 700MB CD? I don't care about applications other than GParted and Firefox.
[00:58] <daftykins> lubuntu i think
[00:58] <SirLagz> VictoriaXOXO: why not just get the gparted livecd?
[00:58] <VictoriaXOXO> SirLagz: I need access to sites with Firefox.
[00:58] <VictoriaXOXO> Lubuntu? Hmm.
[00:59] <daftykins> joining the 21st century and picking up a flash drive would also be good; very few still use optical media to boot their live sessions
[00:59] <SirLagz> VictoriaXOXO: out of curiosity, why firefox? is some site built so that it only works in firefox?
[00:59] <OerHeks> lubuntu & server & mini iso.
[00:59] <daftykins> i just picked up a packet of 4 x 8GB USB 2.0 for 8 GBP.
[00:59] * OerHeks dropped firefox last year
[01:00] <VictoriaXOXO> daftykins: Mine are all full. ;)
[01:00] <VictoriaXOXO> SirLagz: No, but what browser does the GParted Live CD use?
[01:00] <SirLagz> VictoriaXOXO: netsurf
[01:00] <daftykins> so get another... i hope none of that is backup data
[01:00] <SirLagz> VictoriaXOXO: http://www.netsurf-browser.org/
[01:00] <VictoriaXOXO> SirLagz: Hmm.
[01:01] <VictoriaXOXO> daftykins: OerHeks: Lubuntu 14.04 will NOT fit. Not even with compression thing.
[01:01] <VictoriaXOXO> 736(?)MB.
[01:01] <daftykins> that'll go fine with overburn
[01:01] <OerHeks> lubuntu will fit
[01:01] <VictoriaXOXO> I just tried.
[01:01] <daftykins> i have done this exact thing myself a couple of weeks ago :)
[01:01] <VictoriaXOXO> Won't let me.
[01:02] <daftykins> then your software either doesn't support overburn or your media is terrible
[01:02] <VictoriaXOXO> With a 700MB CD?
[01:02] <VictoriaXOXO> daftykins: Probably terrible. Nothing even more lightweight than Lubuntu?
[01:02] <daftykins> yes, overburn writes further than it's claimed to hold, my discs actually came up as larger than 700 based on the manufacturer data embedded at the start which my software read
[01:02] <daftykins> smaller image, nothing to do with lightweight
[01:02] <VictoriaXOXO> daftykins: That's what I meant.
[01:03] <Jordan_U> VictoriaXOXO: Why is using a CD a requirement, rather than a USB drive?
[01:03] <VictoriaXOXO> Jordan_U: Got lots of CDs, but all my USB sticks are being used.
[01:03] <OerHeks> lubuntu 14.04 32 bit 683M - 64 bit 694M and
[01:04] <daftykins> copy the data off... :P
[01:04] <VictoriaXOXO> Screw it. I'll go with Lubuntu x86.
[01:05] <VictoriaXOXO> OerHeks: daftykins: WTF?! Lubuntu shows up even BIGGER in Transmission?!
[01:05] <VictoriaXOXO> I meant Lubuntu x86.
[01:05] <VictoriaXOXO> Shows up bigger than x64.
[01:05] <daftykins> inappropriate language for here, btw
[01:05] <VictoriaXOXO> WTF = What The Fudge.
[01:05] <daftykins> skip the excuses and just be nice :)
[01:06] <VictoriaXOXO> OerHeks: Where did you find Lubuntu 683MB?
[01:06] <isReKT2000> ;)
[01:06] <OerHeks> Megabyte, Megabit, whatever those fools do now, 1 mb = 1000
[01:06] <isReKT2000> bytes
[01:06] <isReKT2000> 1000 bytes
[01:07] <OerHeks> I am not responsible for the confusion, file a bugreport :-P
[01:07] <VictoriaXOXO> OerHeks: Just tell me where you found the 683MB version. ;)
[01:07] <VictoriaXOXO> I'll use that one.
[01:07] <OerHeks> 14,04
[01:07] <OerHeks> http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/lubuntu/releases/14.04/release/
[01:08] <VictoriaXOXO> OerHeks: Where do you see 683MB there? :/
[01:09] <OerHeks> yeah, take an other look, it is there
[01:09] <VictoriaXOXO> OerHeks: And that is WITH a DE?
[01:09] <OerHeks> ctrl + f: 683
[01:09] <daftykins> the page tells you exactly what the files come with
[01:09] <VictoriaXOXO> daftykins: "standard edition"?
[01:09] <VictoriaXOXO> = LXDE?
[01:10] * daftykins points at the page
[01:10] <VictoriaXOXO> daftykins: It doesn't say.
[01:10] <VictoriaXOXO> :/
[01:10] <OerHeks> 14.04.3 is 716M , should fit too
[01:10] <daftykins> so use your favourite search engine, you can't expect us to cover every single one of your basic queries
[01:10] <VictoriaXOXO> :s
[01:14] <Jordan_U> VictoriaXOXO: It seems like your best options woudl be to use a different distribution (that makes CD sized images) or use a USB drive (you don't need to get rid of any of the existing content on your USB drives to add live Ubuntu to them, as long as they have enough free space).
[01:15] <Simba_> how do i unload ubuntu server from a desktop and use an old server as the server?
[01:15] <OerHeks> Simba_, reinstall ?
[01:16] <VictoriaXOXO> Jordan_U: I found something that'll work. All my USB sticks are fully encrypted and stuffed away.
[01:16] <OerHeks> there is no downgrade
[01:17] <Simba_> Or should i say, where should i go to get this information
[01:18] <daftykins> Simba_: what exactly do you mean by 'unload' ? why not just install the desktop on this server if you want it to run desktop ubuntu?
[01:20] <Simba_> i mean to uninstall ubuntu fro the desktop, reformat it as it is running windows 7, and use it as a workstation. does that make sense
[01:21] <daftykins> this desktop is already dual booting 7 + ubuntu?
[01:22] <OerHeks> Simba_, insert your windows cd, repair windows 7, and finally remove non-windows partitions
[01:22] <OerHeks> http://askubuntu.com/questions/133533/how-to-remove-ubuntu-and-put-windows-back-on
[01:23] <Simba_> yes it is running both in tandem, and the problem is swapping from one os to the other
[01:23] <daftykins> as above then :>
[01:25] <Simba_> daftykins, where should i start?
[01:26] <songyq> hello,guys
[01:26] <daftykins> Simba_: creating windows 7 boot media
[01:26] <daftykins> Simba_: you'll need to ask over in ##windows how to restore your bootloader to normal, or look up a guide
[01:27] <Simba_> the problem of reloading windows is that i think, if i am not wrong, that users dont keep, or know where their original program disks are
[01:31] <Simba_> daftykins, and OerHeks, thanks for the help.
[01:33] <tachyondecay> I'm running 14.04 right now, and in the next couple of days I'm getting a shiny new laptop and putting 15.10 on it. I know I can get a list of all my installed packages and use that to quickly download/install stuff onto the new computer, and similarly copy over my config files. But there's a lot of stuff I probably don't need/use. Are there any more nuanced options than all "all or nothing" approach?
[01:33] <Troy^> anyone here use ubuntu on there macbook pros? and what is the battery life like?
[01:34] <nirux> Troy , I use Ubuntu on a laptop if that matters at all.
[01:34] <Troy^> not it's strictly battery life related to the macbook
[01:35] <Jordan_U> Troy^: There are many different models of macbook pro, each with varying hardware and levels of support in drivers available in Ubuntu. I would be highly surprised if anyone else in the channel and awake right now had the same exact hardware as you.
[01:35] <nirux> As Jordan said. I can only tell you of my experience.
[01:35] <nirux> best thing with linux is to try it out and make your own opinion.
[01:35] <Jordan_U> Troy^: You should be able to get a good idea of the battery life from running via LiveUSB before installing.
[01:36] <Troy^> Jordan_U: never thought about that good idea, thanks. :)
[01:36] <daftykins> usually the mac issues are worse than battery life
[01:36] <daftykins> !mac
[01:36] <Jordan_U> Troy^: You're welcome :)
[01:36] <daftykins> Troy^: the above info can be useful if you identify your model, too
[01:37] <nirux> do macs have UEFI?
[01:37] <Jordan_U> nirux: No, they have EFI.
[01:37] <roberto> hey
[01:37] <nirux> Hello.
[01:38] <TheSov2> is there a way to do an include on a hosts file?
[01:40] <Yuken> Just looking on how to make a new .zip file & add files to it from the terminal. WOuld look it up, but my things are being wonky and IRC Is all I can access.
[01:41] <Jordan_U> Yuken: What is your end goal? For archiving files and sharing them with other GNU/Linux users tar.xz files are generally better than .zip files (in both amount of compression and features).
[01:42] <nirux> try doing (zip file.zip foldername)
[01:42] <Yuken> Jordan_U, bringing it on to a Windows PC that can only access .zip. Although, I do not know how to add files to any sort of tar format, as well - that could be handy info.
[01:43] <Jordan_U> Yuken: Generally you don't "add" files to an archive, you simply create archives from directories.
[01:43] <daftykins> plenty of archive managers that handle tar on Windows
[01:43] <nirux> Do ( tar -cvf name.tar /foldername ) for tar.
[01:43] <nirux> I don't think he has a Windows Partition.
[01:44] <ojal8> hello everyone! while creating a partition table, should I select msdos or gpt?
[01:45] <Yuken> Jordan_U, that is actually what I'm asking, sorry for saying it improperly. Sleeeeeepppyyyyy.
[01:45] <Yuken> nirux, I will check those commands out. Thanks.
[01:47] <daftykins> ojal8: is this to be the only disk in the system? will ubuntu be the only OS?
[01:47] <ojal8> daftykins, it is not a system drive
[01:48] <cdk_> is the a way to convert tar balls to .deb packages or no?
[01:48] <nirux> cdk_. Convert tars to debian packages?
[01:48] <Jordan_U> cdk_: Short answer: No
[01:48] <Ben64> not exactly
[01:49] <nirux> I'm not exactly sure, but i think Ubucompilator does that.
[01:50] <cdk_> ok are they too different in structure?
[01:50] <Jordan_U> cdk_: Longer answer: If you have a source package that uses a standard build system, *and* you have already installed all of the needed build and runtime dependencies, then you can create a *non-standard* *not of high enough quality to distribute* .deb file from said source package using checkinstall.
[01:50] <Jordan_U> cdk_: What is your end goal?
[01:51] <Jordan_U> cdk_: A tar file can contain any structure, and is often used for things other than software.
[01:52] <ojal8> this article seems to be in favor of GPT: http://www.howtogeek.com/193669/whats-the-difference-between-gpt-and-mbr-when-partitioning-a-drive/
[01:52] <cdk_> i was just curios because the only way i know to install tar balls is through command line and i find it easier to install .deb's because i have the GDebi program and it is as simple as open with gdebi and click install
[01:53] <ojal8> I had plenty of troubles with disk utility lately, and the partitions were MBR. now I'd like to know if GPT is the better choice, and maybe with gparted
[01:53] <daftykins> cdk_: you should be finding packages in repos really, instead of obtaining debs manually - that's unwise.
[01:53] <Jordan_U> ojal8: Use GPT unless you have a compelling reason not to.
[01:53] <cdk_> also why is it that when i right click i have no optoin to open terminal here as root or open folder here as root?
[01:54] <daftykins> ojal8: you never replied
[01:54] <ojal8> Jordan_U, and should I use gparted? can I trust that it wont let down like disk utility did?
[01:54] <ojal8> daftykins, sure I did.
[01:54] <nirux> gparted should be fine.
[01:55] <Jordan_U> ojal8: What problems have you been having specifically? Most "problems" people have with partitioning utilities are either due to user misunderstanding, having used buggy tools in the past, or dying hardware. GPT won't help with most of those problems.
[01:55] <cdk_> daftykins: my deb files are from like nvidia and are all proprietary sodtware directly from the creater or manufacturere of the package/hardware
[01:55] <Troy^> daftykins: btw, that link is way out of date
[01:55] <daftykins> Troy^: what link
[01:56] <ojal8> Jordan_U, my problem couldnt have been cleared yet. I talked about it various times on various platforms. the luks partitions were deleted right after I created them
[01:56] <Troy^> daftykins: mac link
[01:56] <daftykins> Troy^: oh the mac one, no it's a wiki... it contains only versions that someone has written...
[01:56] <daftykins> so it depends on the model.
[01:56] <Troy^> ik but im saying it's out of date lol
[01:56] <daftykins> cdk_: graphics drivers are the #1 that shouldn't be downloaded manually
[01:56] <Jordan_U> ojal8: Have you done a S.M.A.R.T. check of the drive recently?
[01:56] <Troy^> by like 3 years+
[01:57] <cdk_> Jordan_U: thanks for clearing that up for me
[01:57] <daftykins> Troy^: would've made more sense if you said "my model is #,# and only ubuntu release ... is covered"
[01:57] <ojal8> Jordan_U, you mean the HDD (because the affected drives were externally connected, not HDD)
[01:57] <cdk_> daftykins: ok and why is that?
[01:57] <ojal8> =
[01:57] <ojal8> ?
[01:57] <daftykins> cdk_: because manual nvidia installs can break on kernel update; using manually obtained debs shows a misunderstanding of how package management works
[01:57] <ojal8> I presume you mean HDD, as SMART test applies not to external devices, as far as I know
[01:58] <Jordan_U> ojal8: I mean a S.M.A.R.T. check of whatever drive you were having trouble repartitioning.
[01:58] <Jordan_U> ojal8: Some USB enclosures support S.M.A.R.T. pass through.
[01:58] <ojal8> Jordan_U, one of them, yes. I used badblocks and it proved ok
[01:58] <cdk_> daftykins: ok so just use the ones in additoinal drivers?
[01:58] <daftykins> cdk_: depending on release and nvidia card, yeah
[01:59] <ojal8> Jordan_U, but I can tell you that it happened on a brand new drive, too
[01:59] <nirux> irrelevant conversations. What kernel version are you guys running?
[01:59] <ojal8> Jordan_U, partition created, data saved on it, and locked, unplugged. next time plugged in, partition 'unknown'
[01:59] <cdk_> daftykins: why is it that when i right click i have no optoin to open terminal here as root and no optoin to open folder as root?
[01:59] <daftykins> and for software - you should always use in order: 1) what's built into different repos or 2) PPAs you trust; only after that should you 3) obtain debs or worse still... 4) compile
[02:00] <daftykins> cdk_: probably because the OS hasn't been designed to mind-read
[02:00] <daftykins> nirux: why does that matter...
[02:00] <daftykins> we could all be on different distros / releases.
[02:01] <cdk_> daftykins: is there a way to make it have that optoin like something to install or?
[02:02] <Jordan_U> ojal8: Please try to reproduce the problem with GParted, and save the output of "sudo parted -l" at every step (before using GParted, after using Gparted but before disconnecting the drive, again after disconnecting and re-connecting the drive).
[02:02] <ojal8> Jordan_U, but I can only reproduce it with gnome disk utility, because this was the tool that I used while all the problems occured
[02:03] <daftykins> cdk_: well you can run nautilus with gksu/gksudo to have it with root permissions; but i suspect based on the package talk you're planning on doing something inadvisable...
[02:03] <ojal8> Jordan_U, so should I use gnome disk utility again and note every step as you described?
[02:04] <Jordan_U> ojal8: OK, then see if you can reproduce the problem with gnome disk utility again. Also make sure that you're ejecting (rather than just unmounting) the drive before removing it.
[02:04] <cdk_> ok in a terminal the sudo.... works but i wish the open folder as root was available
[02:04] <adrian_1908> hello. Is fglrx compatible with GNOME3? If not, would a manually installed version from AMD's website be?
[02:05] <nirux> It doesn't matter. That's why it's irrelevant conversation.
[02:05] <Jordan_U> adrian_1908: fglrx normally works fine with GNOME Shell. What problem are you having specifically?
[02:06] <Jordan_U> nirux: Please keep offtopic discussion to #ubuntu-offtopic .
[02:06] <ojal8> Jordan_U, sure. the latter was also symptomatic of some irregularity. because when all partitions were unmounted and locked, and used the disk utility feature 'power off' to remove the drive, the application window closed. and this keeps happening occasionally since.
[02:06] <jwisbell35> Adrian if you are using 15.10 fglrx still doesnt work with the new kernel. Still hasnt been fixed.
[02:06] <nirux> ah, my bad.
[02:06] <ojal8> like it happens when a program crashes
[02:07] <cdk_> daftykins: ok in terminal the sudo.... works but wish i had the optoin for open folder/terminal here as root
[02:07] <adrian_1908> Jordan_U: none, i haven't even tried fglrx yet. For some reason I was convinced the proprietary driver didn't support it (something related to EGL).
[02:07] <ojal8> also another irregularity was that it was taking ages to unmount a partition, in a few times never to happen
[02:07] <daftykins> cdk_: do not run nautilus with sudo.
[02:08] <Jordan_U> adrian_1908: You're thinking of Wayland, which is entirely separate.
[02:08] <jwisbell35> It works on 15.04 but on 15.10 you have to downgrade the kernel for it to work.
[02:08] <cdk_> daftykins: ok will not do that but you do understand what i am wanting right?
[02:09] <adrian_1908> Jordan_U: Right, I'm still on Xorg. Glad to hear if that'll work for a while longer.
[02:09] <adrian_1908> jwisbell35: Yes good point.
[02:09] <daftykins> cdk_: yes but wanting root disk access is what's concerning me... when does this come up?
[02:10] <adrian_1908> Is kernel a kernel downgrade fairly trivial? I badly need fglrx for an application that never handled the open source driver well.
[02:10] <jwisbell35> Not too bad. But i would read up on itt alot first.
[02:10] <Jordan_U> adrian_1908: Xorg will continue to work for many years to come, fglrx should be supporting Wayland soon, and hopefully when the transition to Wayland by default does happen in the future it will be seamless enough that you don't even notice it if you're not specifically looking for it :)
[02:10] <adrian_1908> sorry for the typos, I'm tired :o
[02:11] <Jordan_U> adrian_1908: You don't need to downgrade your kernel.
[02:12] <cdk_> when i want to open a folder as root because i want to modify a doc or config file or syst file but need root acess
[02:12] <scott_11> Jordan_U: what is the best way to run fglrx on 15.10?
[02:13] <cdk_> daftykins: when i want to open a folder as root because i want to modify a doc or config file or syst file but need root access
[02:14] <Jordan_U> adrian_1908: scott_11: Looking into it more, there does indeed seem to be an issue with fglrx and Ubuntu 15.10 that I wasn't aware of.
[02:14] <jwisbell35> :)
[02:15] <Ben64> cdk_: you shouldn't need to edit system files very often. when you do, use sudo
[02:16] <jwisbell35> Jordan: Its not an actual kernel issue but something with the newer gcc I think. But downgrading pulls in the correct compilers for it.
[02:16] <daftykins> Ben64: the problem is the desire to do so graphically i think
[02:16] <cdk_> Ben64:: kk i just prefer the quicker and shorter way
[02:16] <daftykins> cdk_: something wrong with using the terminal and text editors?
[02:17] <cdk_> daftykins:: no......... i just prefer the quicker and shorter way
[02:17] <daftykins> k
[02:17] <Ben64> how is anything quicker and shorter than "sudo nano file"
[02:18] <jwisbell35> I sudo abiword filename everything through terminal. Not a fan of nano.
[02:18] <daftykins> jwisbell35: using GUI apps with sudo is a very bad idea
[02:19] <jwisbell35> I know but been doing it forever. Habit.
[02:19] <Ben64> 'gksu gedit file' if you like gui, still easy
[02:20] <cdk_> Ben64: daftykins: thank you both for your exemplary help
[02:20] <cdk_> gottogo.....>>><>
[02:21] <jwisbell35> Ben: Whats the difference between gksu and sudo? Opens the same either way.
[02:22] <Ben64> you said you know running gui stuff with sudo is bad, running gui stuff with gksu is the right way to do it
[02:22] <daftykins> jwisbell35: defending something with 'i always did it' = not very wise :(
[02:22] <jwisbell35> :)
[02:23] <jwisbell35> Ahh prevents files in the home directory from being owned by root.
[02:24] <tachyondecay> I'm getting a new computer and putting 15.10 on it. Currently running 14.04 on this computer. Aside from copying _everything_ or manually figuring out what I want, are there any more nuanced options to setting up my new computer?
[02:24] <Ben64> tachyondecay: depends what you want
[02:25] <Jordan_U> tachyondecay: None that I can think of.
[02:25] <tachyondecay> I feel like I'd prefer to start "from scratch" because I have many packages installed I don't really need/use any more.
[02:26] <tachyondecay> So that's what I'll probably do. I was just wondering if there were tools or tips for streamlining that.
[02:28] <adrian_1908> tachyondecay: Consider writing down the procedure and the steps you took (and possible pitfalls). This way you'll be faster the next time you "start over".
[02:30] <tachyondecay> Sound advice
[02:31] <TJ-> tachyondecay: if you're starting from scratch, but want to copy over the existing user $HOME, I'd recommend also creating a new, fresh, user account as the primary account and only copying into it your Documents. Keep all the config files/diretories under the old $HOME separate (the .dotfiles and .dotdirs) and only copy settings over when you realise you need them.
[02:31] <tachyondecay> Also I've progressively stepped down from Unity to LXDE as software has outpaced my 8-year-old laptop
[02:31] <tachyondecay> So I kind of want to start fresh on the config end in most cases, since I feel like those settings are all messed up
[02:32] <tachyondecay> Yeah, that's what I was thinking of doing, TJ-.
[02:33] <adrian_1908> tachyondecay: You're happy with LXDE, yes? Otherwise I'd recommend XFCE; it struck me as more polished than the former and still fairly lightweight.
[02:33] <tachyondecay> Well I'm going to give stock Ubuntu 15.10 a try
[02:33] <tachyondecay> I'm not so much "happy" with LXDE as "my system is not slow as balls" on it :P
[02:34] <adrian_1908> tachyondecay: I see :P
[02:34] <friedbac> We wouldn't have this problem with terrorist if all internet was govt controlled like the mail
[02:34] <TJ-> most of the time the DE eye-candy requiring 3D acceleration is irrelevant. fine if you want to stare at a work of art but pointless for getting work done
[02:35] <tachyondecay> LXDE is serviceable, but not quite as slick. I didn't like Unity a great deal, but I feel like a lot of that was because it would chug doing simple things like opening up the menu.
[02:35] <tachyondecay> I'll give the defaults a shot, because I have just never had the hardware needed to run them properly. And then I'll try GNOME3 or XCFE or something if I want a change.
[02:36] <tachyondecay> I've used KDE in the past too and enjoyed it. And still use a bunch of KDE programs; I'm in Konversation right now. :D
[02:36] <friedbac> TJ-: true but improves user experience. Sometimes smoothness is better than speed
[02:37] <tachyondecay> My priority is a good launcher, because I prefer using the keyboard. My desktop has no shortcuts on it.
[02:37] <friedbac> I think unity and kde has gone over the top.
[02:37] <adrian_1908> I'm on GNOME3 right now for my Desktop and I'm highly impressed how well integrated it is, it looks and behaves so slick, not very Linux like if I may say.
[02:37] <daftykins> you folks discussion is most suited to #ubuntu-offtopic ; support only in here.
[02:38] <HackerII> uumate 15.01 is killer fast and pretty cool
[02:38] <adrian_1908> daftykins: ya fair enough!
[02:38] <friedbac> But it's cool they develop neat stuff TJ- daftykins was I talking to u
[02:39] <friedbac> Some people can't mind their own business
[02:39] <daftykins> friedbac: no idea what your sentence means
[02:39] <daftykins> the channel has rules - follow them :)
[02:40] <TJ-> friedbac: I've experienced the opposite; Unity actively destroyed my workflow and user experience. Unitiy's specific bug for me is no appreciation of larger workspaces - 6 large monitors and 3 GPUs here.
[02:42] <ojal8> Jordan_U, I reproduced the process.
[02:43] <ojal8> Jordan_U, maybe with a difference.
[02:43] <ojal8> I haven't saved data on them because it would take a long time
[02:44] <ojal8> oh, did Jordan_U leave?
[02:45] <Glamdring> Can somebody here please help me figure out what is radeonsi_dri.so?
[02:45] <Glamdring> I feel very silly not knowing.
[02:48] <TJ-> Glamdring: it is part of libgl1-mesa-dri:
[02:48] <TJ-> !info libgl1-mesa-dri
[02:49] <Glamdring> Thank you, TJ- !
[02:51] <Glamdring> Hrm. So I have it installed, but my game fails to load it. How does one test if it otherwise works?
[02:52] <TJ-> Glamdring: "glxinfo" from the mesa tools should help check the OpenGL setup
[02:52] <Glamdring> Excellent, thank you.
[02:52] <TJ-> !info mesa-utils | Glamdring
[03:01] <Glamdring> Strange game. The only way to win is not to play.
[03:03] <OerHeks> sure
[03:07] <SubCool> Could someone please assist me with my dropbox, i know its stupid. but its fucking up something bad.
[03:07] <SubCool> someone told me to make sure to do a proper cleanup on the files, so i did.
[03:07] <SubCool> but im a bit lost on some stuff.
[03:07] <Glamdring> So if glxinfo says I've got direct rendering, and glxgears is pretty and doesn't explode, why would my game throw this error: libGL error: unable to load driver: radeonsi_dri.so
[03:08] <OerHeks> SubCool, there is something you said, that activates my swearfilter
[03:08] <danmulvey> is there anyreason that i should or shouldnt use apt-get autoremove when it says i have things that are no longer needed?
[03:08] <SubCool> If i follow the package install, it doesnt work for me. and never loads dropbox. Last time ihad an issue with this, i got the headless version( the station is headless, and remote) - and we got it going. But- it stopped working again.
[03:08] <SubCool> SO im back to square one.
[03:09] <OerHeks> danmulvey, autoremove is safe
[03:10] <danmulvey> OerHeks: cool thanks, i just wasnt sure if i should somehow double check the packages it lists before i autoremove them and also if theres any reason id specifically want to remove them aside from just freeing up space
[03:13] <SubCool> Ok, i got to where i was last time i think. WOuld someone mind following me along for a min?
[03:13] <SubCool> at this link.. \
[03:13] <SubCool> https://www.dropbox.com/install?os=lnx
[03:14] <TJ-> Glamdring: run the game under control of strace, generate a log, check it after it throws the error. Something like "strace -o /tmp/game.log -f -e trace=file <game arg1 arg2>"
[03:14] <SubCool> there is a link to download the python script. Now last time i did this, i dont remember where i put it- i think i had to put into like /bin/local
[03:14] <SubCool> OMG !! TJ!!!!
[03:14] <SubCool> TJ-, you busy? **batts eyes**
[03:14] <Glamdring> Oh my. Okay, I'll try to do that.
[03:15] <Glamdring> The <game arg1 arg2>, I assume there's generally no required arguments, and so those are just there in case I would need them, not because there are some I need of which I'm unaware?
[03:16] <OerHeks> arg1 arg2 are options, leave it blanc if you don't use them.
[03:16] <Glamdring> Keen, thanks.
[03:17] <TJ-> SubCool: I am yes, just popping in and out
[03:18] <Glamdring> Oh, that's interesting, I hadn't seen that error before...
[03:18] <Glamdring> Frustrating and mildly preposterous, every single error I look up from this game references Steam. My copy is through GOG.
[03:18] <SubCool> TJ ok. thas cool. Have fun man. Havent talked to you in forever.
[03:19] <Glamdring> I should clarify, in fact. These are errors Steam seems to throw around, even without this game.
[03:20] <OerHeks> Steam wants the closed source ati drivers, no?
[03:21] <Glamdring> Perhaps so. Thankfully not my problem.
[03:21] <TJ-> Glamdring: ahhhh. Steam. Yes. Bad. Puppy. Nasty things it does.
[03:21] <Glamdring> Not a big fan of signing away my right to class action lawsuits, so I avoid it.
[03:23] <Glamdring> Okay. So it looks like the log says there's basically a world of "No such file or directory".
[03:23] <Glamdring> Which is odd.
[03:24] <TJ-> We had a user here last week with something very similar, and we traced it down to the way the steam scripts do stuff. It ended up being a corrupt (0 length) file installed by steam in $HOME/.steam.
[03:25] <AkaliBot> hi. when it ry to do apt-get update or use the software update center, i get 404s, ie, Err http://archive.ubuntu.com utopic/main amd64 Packages 404 Not Found [IP: 91.189.88.153 80] Err http://archive.ubuntu.com utopic/main
[03:25] <TJ-> Glamdring: the fix was to move the existing $HOME/.steam directory to a back-up name and let it be re-installed.
[03:25] <Glamdring> Sheesh. Granted, this isn't Steam, but it could well be much the same.
[03:25] <TJ-> AkaliBot: what release of Ubuntu "cat /etc/issue" ?
[03:25] <AkaliBot> all google results say to run apt-get update to refresh sources list, but that error happens when doing that
[03:25] <OerHeks> utopic .. is EOL
[03:26] <OerHeks> !14.04
[03:26] <AkaliBot> 10.10
[03:26] <AkaliBot> 14.19*
[03:26] <AkaliBot> goodness. 14.10
[03:26] <TJ-> !eolupgrade | AkaliBot
[03:26] <OerHeks> akalibot, upgrade please
[03:26] <AkaliBot> thank you all
[03:31] <Glamdring> Oddly, I've not seen anybody else describing the same problem. Maybe there aren't a lot of Linux users trying to run Tower Of Guns.
[03:31] <Glamdring> Or, of course, maybe my problem is unique.
[03:33] <Ghost_r00t> hi
[03:33] <Ghost_r00t> What is the kernel version on ubuntu 15.04?
[03:33] <SubCool> ok. how do i get this to work.
[03:34] <SubCool> i have less than 15 days to make this work and backup my dropbox.
[03:34] <OerHeks> Ghost_r00t, current 64 bit is 3.19.0-33-generic
[03:34] <SubCool> ive been at this for a month.
[03:34] <K3y804rDCow80Y> Hi guys
[03:35] <K3y804rDCow80Y> trying to hack my wifi but following the steps i've seen on youtube, in my terminal i run into several errors. Was wondering if anyone has any suggestions
[03:36] <OerHeks> hacking wifi is beyond the scope of this channel, k3
[03:36] <K3y804rDCow80Y> WTF?
[03:36] <K3y804rDCow80Y> Jk
[03:36] <K3y804rDCow80Y> okay arigato
[03:37] <TJ-> hacking is fine; cracking is out-of-bounds
[03:37] <TJ-> !hacking
[03:38] <K3y804rDCow80Y> another off the topic question what is the name of the website that you use to upload like a copy of your terminal?
[03:38] <macer_> what are you trying to do with your wifi? and what tool are you trying to use?
[03:38] <OerHeks> imgur.com or paste.ubuntu.com
[03:38] <macer_> pastbin
[03:38] <SubCool> ok- i just did something stupid. and i dont know how to undo it
[03:38] <K3y804rDCow80Y> that's it thanks @macer
[03:38] <TJ-> !paste | K3y804rDCow80Y
[03:39] <SubCool> i had a something named Dropbox, so i moved it to ~/bin - now its gone
[03:39] <K3y804rDCow80Y> thank you @ubottu
[03:39] <K3y804rDCow80Y> i tried using reaver?
[03:39] <K3y804rDCow80Y> it that only for Kali...
[03:39] <SubCool> K3y804rDCow80Y, no- there are a ton of videos on how to use that stuff, but there is a lot of mixing and matching.
[03:40] <SubCool> knowing the surrounding of it and hack the hacking tools helps.
[03:40] <SubCool> K3y804rDCow80Y, most of all, make sure ur nic card can do the work.
[03:40] <OerHeks> don't get hackedwith kali, lolz
[03:41] <macer_> do you have your wireless card in monitor mode?
[03:41] <cwong> hi
[03:41] <K3y804rDCow80Y> well Kali just makes it easier since it has like all the tools already installed. I tried using Kali, but man o man did I have the hardest time trying to get used to it.
[03:41] <SubCool> i tried using mine on ubuntu - its easier just to use it on kali, or-- the one previous to it.
[03:42] <macer_> I prefer nodezero
[03:42] <SubCool> K3y804rDCow80Y, yeah, its snot. but works. im about to get back into it again once i finish fixing this stupid stuff that should just work. but never does.
[03:43] <K3y804rDCow80Y> SubCool I will try to go back through the steps I tried following from this one video and i will pastebin the error message i get.
[03:44] <macer_> essentially you need to get the bssid - did you get that?
[03:44] <K3y804rDCow80Y> macer that was were i got stuck
[03:45] <OerHeks> guys, hacking wifi is beyond the scope of this channel
[03:45] <K3y804rDCow80Y> trying to find the video now.
[03:45] <OerHeks> move it to an other channel, thanks.
[03:45] <cryptz> can anyone suggest further troubleshooting i can do for a mdadm array that will not assemble at boot. i can assemble it manually without issue. dmesg shows no claim of an attempt to assemble the array. i feel as if i am missing some configuration to tell it to rebuild the array. /etc/mdadm/mdadm.conf exists, but i dont think anything is trying to do the assembly at all.
[03:46] <cryptz> its ubuntu 15.10 booting in an efi env, the md array is not my boot device though
[03:46] <K3y804rDCow80Y> what would be another channel to get help on this with?
[03:47] <SubCool> K3y804rDCow80Y, i seriously referred to like 10 videos, and threw it all together. But- then my hardware was semi useless. I got done testing wep, but needed wpa. and.. that was a whole nother mess of issues.
[03:47] <Ghost_r00t> which version of ubuntu .iso uses 3.14 kernel. as there is a bug on nvidia video card from 3.15 on going till now
[03:47] <SubCool> K3y804rDCow80Y, kali has channels, there are a ton of channels.
[03:47] <Ghost_r00t> I mean nouveau
[03:47] <K3y804rDCow80Y> man those guys over there hate on ubuntu users that's why i came here LOL
[03:47] <macer_> @cryptz do you see the /de/md* device?
[03:48] <SubCool> K3y804rDCow80Y, its best to figure it out urself. THats kinda why it setup like that, and not just automatic. Understand the steps, and how to tweak it. My friend an i started making a script, but then he moved away.
[03:48] <cryptz> only if i assemble it, mdadm --assemble --scan presents the md0 device without issue, but only if i do it manually
[03:48] <SubCool> K3y804rDCow80Y, oh yea- gotta lvoe the love. -_-
[03:48] <gshmu> I want view rtf file, I'm try Abiword, but some better?
[03:48] <K3y804rDCow80Y> SubCool i see. X)
[03:49] <SubCool> i get the same thing when i wonder around. or goto freenas for help. THey flame u for not having intel. Its rediculous. THats why i come here al ot, the guys here are usually very helpful.
[03:49] <SubCool> if they help **cough cough**
[03:49] <macer_> did you do mdadm --assemble --scan ?
[03:49] <gshmu> and outlook auto index user, but thunderbird I can't config the LDAP? any help
[03:49] <cryptz> @macer yes, if i run that command manually it works fine
[03:50] <JesseH> Hi, I'm trying to install ubuntu 15.04 on a mac, but the wifi isn't working. Can someone help?
[03:50] <cryptz> my boot process simply does not make the attempt to mount it from my view
[03:50] <JesseH> I have no idea where to begin with the issue, besides some things I found in the forums.
[03:50] <cryptz> if i dmesg | grep md the only hits are statements that raid personalities 0-10 loaded
[03:51] <cryptz> no errors
[03:51] <JesseH> (installed some things, had to manually do that)
[03:51] <JesseH> I'm seeing modprobe solutions but I don't know how to use that command.
[03:51] <SubCool> Ugh- great. and now the pages i use to refer to went down. My night.
[03:52] <cryptz> @macer i am thinking that since i am not booting from a md array maybe the boot process is overlooking its existance
[03:53] <cryptz> i am just not sure where i would tell it to load mdadm and perform a scan
[03:53] <macer_> @cryptz did you check your fstab and is thit there?
[03:54] <cryptz> i didnt put it in fstab yet, and maybe this is my confusion, but my very first attempt caused the system to not boot. basically i couldnt mount /dev/md0 to /mymountpoint in fstab because /dev/md0 fails to exist at boot. this caused the system to hang during boot and i had to go into recovery mode and remove the fstab line to make the system stable again
[03:54] <whologin> sup niggas
[03:55] <whologin> oops wrong room
[03:55] <JesseH> Not to inconvenience anyone, but does anyone have any idea about my problem
[03:55] <cryptz> so maybe my thinking that /dev/md0 should exist without a fstab entry is incorrect, but i would assume the 2 are seperate esp since fstab seems to be highly relying on /dev/md0 existing
[03:55] <macer_> definitely will need it in fstab and mtab
[03:55] <TJ-> cryptz: what metadata version does the array use?
[03:55] <cryptz> 1.2
[03:56] <TJ-> cryptz: udevd should fire off the mdadm rule to assemble the array
[03:56] <cryptz> it is 3 devices, /dev/rssda1 /dev/rssdb1 /dev/rssdc1
[03:56] <TJ-> cryptz: it has nothing to do with fstab entries
[03:56] <cryptz> ok tj
[03:56] <cryptz> is that automated
[03:56] <cryptz> or should i be doing something to facilitate that
[03:57] <SubCool> is there usually a bin folder in the home directory?
[03:57] <TJ-> cryptz: during boot, as block devices are discovered, their metadata is checked and if recognised the correct tool is/should be launched
[03:57] <JesseH> Can someone help me get wifi working on a mac laptop that I'm trying to get lubuntu 15.04 installed on?
[03:57] <TJ-> SubCool: no, but if you create $HOME/bin it will be added to the $PATH at log-in
[03:57] <cryptz> so tj i created paritions on these devics and marked them of type fd that is why you see the /dev/rssda1 for example
[03:57] <TJ-> cryptz: which Ubuntu release is it?
[03:57] <cryptz> 15.10
[03:58] <cryptz> server
[03:58] <cryptz> its efi boot as well and the devices in question are pciessds so a bit from the norm however there is a guide from the manufacturer for this very purpose
[03:58] <cryptz> so it should be doable
[03:58] <SubCool> TJ-, so what im looking at is a link to /bin
[03:58] <TJ-> cryptz: partition type has no bearing on it, that value is not used by anything other than the partiting tool to let the user indicate to other users what the purpose of the partition might be
[03:58] <SubCool> oh wow- i removed dropbox compelted, and it disappeared.
[03:59] <TJ-> SubCool: $HOME/bin should be a directory owned by the user
[03:59] <SubCool> im definitly doing something wrong.
[03:59] <cryptz> i had read that when the device is scanned if it detects a fd partition type it might kick it over to mdadm without the superblock intact, or something to that effect, but the superblock is intact and the array does assemble correctly when i manually invoke it
[03:59] <cryptz> where /what should i be looking for ini udevd
[03:59] <SubCool> no- nvm. im an idiot- its still there
[03:59] <SubCool> omg- i know what it is
[04:00] <SubCool> wtf!?
[04:00] <SubCool> - /bin is my dropbox folder..
[04:00] <TJ-> cryptz: this is why I asked which metadata version since that is what is scanned for. Now, v1.2 is stored 4KB from the start of the block device. "blkid /dev/rs*" might help confirm that metadata is being recognised
[04:00] <SubCool> ok- now i really need help.
[04:01] <SubCool> THis is way beyong me now. Ok. SO- after the install, i tried to move the Dropbox.py to /bin - with mv. WHen i did that, i mv'd /Dropbox to /bin
[04:02] <sector_0> can someone tell me why pulseaudio keep stopping?
[04:02] <JesseH> If someone could be of assistance with my issue, I'd greatly appreciate it.
[04:02] <Glamdring> So, what's PhysXUpdateLoader.so? Or, if you want to teach a man to fish, how do I figure that out?
[04:03] <TJ-> !find PhysXUpdateLoader.so
[04:03] <Glamdring> Huh. That's interesting.
[04:03] <sector_0> sometimes I'm just using my computer (listening to music) and I pause the music for a min and when I attempt to un-pause it, it just doesn't
[04:03] <sector_0> youtube videos, etc don't work either
[04:03] <SubCool> SO- now /Dropbox is /bin
[04:03] <cryptz> tj bear with me, i do see an issue but i know this is not the original problem. i had this issue last night, today i was using zfs on the devices. so at the moment the /dev/rssda parttion has a zfs type and /dev/rssda1 has a linux raid member type. i had previously secure erased the drives on my initial attempts. let me correct this but i do not believe this could be the solution since i didnt
[04:03] <cryptz> have zfs on these drives on the first go around..
[04:03] <TJ-> Glamdring: that's something specific to the application/game I think
[04:03] <Glamdring> And it, too, is apparently missing.
[04:03] <sector_0> If I restart however the sound come back until it stops randomly again
[04:04] <SubCool> when i tried to rename it back rename bin DropBox
[04:04] <SubCool> Bareword "bin" not allowed while "strict subs" in use at (eval 1) line 1.
[04:04] <sector_0> also if I log out and log back in that fixes it
[04:04] <JesseH> How do I get wireless working on a macbook pro that's running Lubuntu 15.05?
[04:04] <JesseH> 15.04*
[04:04] <Glamdring> Though Google comes up with references to it through Antichamber, either Humble Bundle version or Steam.
[04:04] <Glamdring> So, specific as it may be, at least it's not unique.
[04:04] <TJ-> cryptz: Ahhh, if the metadata of the outer container is being recognised as ZFS that could short-circuit the discovery of the MD RAID
[04:04] <sector_0> "pulseaudio -k" then "pulseaudio -D" doesn't work
[04:04] <SubCool> JesseH, wish i cuold help, but u got me. I cant even get a hackintosh to work :(
[04:04] <cryptz> makes sense but unfortunately i know that wasnt the case when i initially tried
[04:04] <sector_0> it tells me the daemon can't start
[04:05] <sector_0> I'm using ubuntu 14.04
[04:05] <OerHeks> JesseH, open terminal: lspci # and find your bcm wifi chipset, then use the bcm manual
[04:05] <OerHeks> !bcm
[04:06] <JesseH> Thanks OEP_
[04:06] <JesseH> OerHeks:***
[04:06] <SubCool> ok- i "mv"d it back. -- im soo scared.
[04:06] <Agent_Isai> Hi, when I tried installing Ubuntu 14.04.3 with Wubi and I got this https://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/PVhdt8gU/Screenshot_2015-11-17-22-05-04-1.png
[04:07] <SubCool> Ok... PLEASE SOMEONE TAKE 5 mins!?
[04:09] <rypervenche> SubCool: What's up?
[04:09] <SubCool> Thank you.
[04:09] <shahrukh> hey guys
[04:09] <SubCool> just trying to get dropbox working. I use to work, and... idk what happen. - SO removed it all, reinstalled it a few times. and now im back to the same point
[04:09] <SubCool> technically amost done.
[04:10] <SubCool> https://www.dropbox.com/install?os=lnx
[04:10] <cryptz> tj i am secure erasing these drives and recreating the md0 array. based on your previous comments should i forgo the /dev/rssd*1 fd partitioning and just use the device
[04:10] <SubCool> IM at the bottom when you download the python script. Last time i had this working, someone help me put that the script someplace nice to run it- and make it excuteable.
[04:11] <SubCool> because of its self destruction, i had to remove everything.
[04:11] <rypervenche> SubCool: Just calm down, we can help.
[04:11] <deletemeplease> ubuntu!
[04:11] <deletemeplease> Is ubuntu supporting Wayland yet or are they still trying to work on their POS mir?
[04:12] <OerHeks> ubuntu goes for MIR, a fork of wayland
[04:12] <deletemeplease> OerHeks, why?!
[04:13] <deletemeplease> mir is a mess.
[04:13] <deletemeplease> Every tech demo of it that I've seen has been a complete disaster.
[04:13] <rypervenche> SubCool: Are you using the deb package/
[04:13] <OerHeks> LoLz, mir is in development, so calling it a mess.. how about wayland?
[04:13] <SubCool> rypervenche, should i move dropbox.py someplace like i did before? i know im suppsoed to link it so i can use it.
[04:13] <SubCool> rypervenche, no- im using the headless version.
[04:13] <SubCool> my machine is headless at home. Im half a country away.
[04:14] <SubCool> i really wanna upgrade from 12 to 14lts, but im afraid ill br prompted for something i cant do- so later on im going to dl a model and test it.
[04:14] <Agent_Isai> I see that in the install log: https://www.irccloud.com/pastebin/9MkSKZNp/
[04:14] <K3y804rDCow80Y> this chat room doesn't have direct PM does it?
[04:14] <SubCool> K3y804rDCow80Y, it does, but be careful
[04:14] <deletemeplease> OerHeks, the difference is Wayland has a working compositor....
[04:14] <deletemeplease> Weston
[04:14] <deletemeplease> mir is a trainwreck
[04:14] <SubCool> K3y804rDCow80Y, what client r u using.
[04:15] <deletemeplease> OerHeks, so Unity is being ported to mir instead of wayland?
[04:15] <K3y804rDCow80Y> client? SubCool
[04:15] <SubCool> Im using Hexchat as a IRC client.
[04:15] <cryptz> @TJ blkid shows 318ea69d-0c43-85a7-c2f7-b83dfe364775 mdadm.conf shows UUID=318ea69d:0c4385a7:c2f7b83d:fe364775 could it be as simple as the - <> the :
[04:15] <deletemeplease> sucwhat are you trying to do?
[04:15] <SubCool> a lot of people use some browser based one.
[04:15] <deletemeplease> SubCool*
[04:16] <K3y804rDCow80Y> not sure link at the top says webchat.freenode.net
[04:16] <deletemeplease> SubCool, I'm under Lubuntu and the majority of my Linux experience is with debian but I could probably help
[04:16] <SubCool> deletemeplease, finish installation of dropbox on a headless machine.
[04:16] <deletemeplease> SubCool, oh.
[04:16] <deletemeplease> SubCool, any errors?
[04:16] <SubCool> deletemeplease, im sure u can, its really simple.
[04:16] <SubCool> no- just inability to use it
[04:16] <SubCool> I just rarely use linux, so i forget commands and locations and stupid stuff until i drive in again.
[04:16] <SubCool> https://www.dropbox.com/install?os=lnx
[04:17] <SubCool> if u goto the bottom, im at the last paragraph,
[04:17] <SubCool> just trying to make the dropbox.py executeable, place it in the right folder, and make this damn program do its job.
[04:17] <rypervenche> SubCool: Calmn down there. You shouldn't need to make it executable even.
[04:18] <deletemeplease> SubCool, I'm going to write you a command to run
[04:18] <SubCool> make it +x is from http://www.dropboxwiki.com/tips-and-tricks/using-the-official-dropbox-command-line-interface-cli
[04:18] <deletemeplease> SubCool, but first tell me if typing nc into terminal causes an error or not
[04:18] <rypervenche> SubCool: If you are using the headless one, why are you using a python script?
[04:18] <K3y804rDCow80Y> SubCool can you take a look------> http://paste.ubuntu.com/13324375/
[04:18] <SubCool> rypervenche, i have to with headless. dont i?
[04:19] <deletemeplease> K3y804rDCow80Y, are you trying to get help or give help?
[04:19] <SubCool> K3y804rDCow80Y, you never setup mon0 properly
[04:19] <Nautilus_> I did a server upgrade from 12.04 to 14.04 and it replaced my sudoers file, I don't remember how to regain permission to edit it. My root account is disabled.
[04:19] <K3y804rDCow80Y> get help
[04:19] <TJ-> cryptz: - vs : , no, the tools just use different human-friendly group separators
[04:19] <SubCool> deletemeplease, im helping him a bit.
[04:19] <deletemeplease> ah
[04:20] <deletemeplease> SubCool, do you know if Dropbox is spitting out any errors when you try and run the script
[04:20] <SubCool> K3y804rDCow80Y, i had that same issue for a while. U didnt setup mon0 correctly to the interface. Usually happened to me when i didnt disable the interface before setting up the mon0
[04:20] <K3y804rDCow80Y> SubCool or deletemeplease any suggestion on how to get that mon0 setup?
[04:20] <SubCool> deletemeplease, not really.
[04:20] <deletemeplease> K3rvyN, I haven't read your problems
[04:21] <cryptz> @Tj yes, i see i found an explanation that they should be different
[04:21] <deletemeplease> K3y804rDCow80Y, describe them to me in a PM if you want and I'll see what I can assist with
[04:21] <cryptz> at this point blkid reports the ids as expected for all 3 devices
[04:21] <cryptz> i am going to try to update-initramfs -u and reboot unless ther eis something with udevd i can check
[04:21] <SubCool> deletemeplease, when its actually running normally- or lack there of. I will try to initiate dropbox, but it doesnt. ONce we get to the point- if it does it again, i can show u the error. It basically show the dropbox prompting in cli, but no matter what i do, it never gets dropboxd running.
[04:22] <K3y804rDCow80Y> deletemeplease how can i PM?
[04:22] <SubCool> K3y804rDCow80Y, not in the manor- Thats really procedure you have to walk through.
[04:22] <deletemeplease> K3rvyN, /msg deletemeplease
[04:22] <SubCool> K3y804rDCow80Y, /msg name
[04:22] <deletemeplease> SubCool, for future reference I suggest you run this command
[04:23] <SubCool> K3y804rDCow80Y, reboot the pc, start from the beginning your missing some step or some step isnt being processed properly- its been 2 years since i used it... soooo..
[04:23] <deletemeplease> echo 'alias termbin="nc termbin.com 9999"' >> ~/.bashrc
[04:23] <SubCool> deletemeplease, k-
[04:23] <deletemeplease> SubCool, run that exactly
[04:23] <K3y804rDCow80Y> SubCool that's so notcool LOL
[04:23] <deletemeplease> in the future if you need to pastebin something like a log use cat <log> | termbin
[04:24] <SubCool> deletemeplease, ran it
[04:24] <deletemeplease> it'll spit a URl out into your terminal linking right to the paste
[04:24] <deletemeplease> SubCool, try it out
[04:24] <deletemeplease> SubCool, tail dmesg | termbin
[04:24] <SubCool> K3y804rDCow80Y, i spent weeks on it... until i teamed up with my friend who knows less, he found a great walk through which gave me the steps i missed.
[04:24] <deletemeplease> and give me the link
[04:25] <SubCool> deletemeplease, tail dmesg | termbin
[04:25] <SubCool> tail: cannot open `dmesg' for reading: No such file or directory
[04:25] <SubCool> termbin: command not found
[04:25] <SubCool> sudo?
[04:25] <deletemeplease> SubCool, type bash
[04:25] <somsip> SubCool: dmesg shows the output, you'd need to tail -f /var/log/syslog
[04:26] <deletemeplease> somazero, I just tail dmesg all the time
[04:26] <deletemeplease> works for me.
[04:26] <deletemeplease> That's just me ✔
[04:26] <SubCool> usually works for me too- :/
[04:26] <deletemeplease> SubCool, in terminal type bash
[04:26] <deletemeplease> :p
[04:26] <SubCool> dmesg worked- - ok
[04:27] <SubCool> it went ot he next line.
[04:27] <deletemeplease> SubCool, once you type bash, do that command again
[04:27] <SubCool> same error.
[04:27] <OerHeks> termbin <> termbin.com
[04:27] <deletemeplease> SubCool, restart your terminal emulator
[04:27] <Nautilus_> I've disabled login for root and am wondering if there's a way for me to change to root after I've logged in as a user?
[04:27] <SubCool> ok
[04:27] <somsip> !sudo | Nautilus_
[04:28] <OerHeks> Nautilus_, "disabled login for root" ??
[04:28] <deletemeplease> SubCool, type termbin in your termal
[04:28] <deletemeplease> terminal*
[04:28] <Nautilus_> somsip: I need to edit my sudoers file to regain sudo power
[04:28] <Nautilus_> OerHeks: As I recall, yes I did (it was a while back)
[04:28] <OerHeks> Nautilus_, ubuntu has no root acccount.
[04:28] <somsip> Nautilus_: you need sudo to do that. So, looks lke you need to go into recovery mode
[04:28] <deletemeplease> OerHeks, it does
[04:29] <deletemeplease> it might be disabled.
[04:29] <SubCool> deletemeplease, still didnt work, but i did what the other person said.. and i got results.. paste it?
[04:29] <Nautilus_> ok, what would I do in recovery mode?
[04:29] <deletemeplease> SubCool, tell me what termbin does
[04:29] <somsip> Nautilus_: edit your sudoers file (correctly)
[04:29] <OerHeks> deletemeplease, no it does not, help subcool with his typos please.
[04:29] <SubCool> OerHeks, lol....
[04:29] <deletemeplease> OerHeks, All linux machines have UID 0 (root)
[04:30] <SubCool> says use netcat
[04:30] <Nautilus_> somsip: it won't let me run shutdown w/o sudo power... is there an alternate way?
[04:30] <deletemeplease> SubCool, ok
[04:30] <deletemeplease> tail -f dmesg | termbin
[04:30] <somsip> Nautilus_: what version of ubuntu and what is this - sounds like you're SSHing into a server?
[04:31] <OerHeks> Nautilus_, boot in recovery mode, and fix it there
[04:31] <Nautilus_> yes, ssh into 14.04. It was 12.04 and I ran an upgrade, it over-wrote my sudoers file
[04:31] <cryptz> @tj, after reboot no md0 device, cat /proc/mdstat doesnt show it. dmesg | grep for either md0 or any of my rssa devies turns up nothing dmesg | grep md: shows entries but not errors. the entries are basically an acknowledgemnt of support for the various raid types
[04:31] <deletemeplease> Nautilus_, you locked yourself out of sudo I presume.
[04:31] <somsip> Nautilus_: local box or server?
[04:31] <Nautilus_> its a vps
[04:31] <OerHeks> http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/fixsudo
[04:31] <SubCool> deletemeplease, same error
[04:31] <somsip> Nautilus_: sounds like you killed it. Contact your VPS provider
[04:31] <deletemeplease> SubCool, paste it
[04:32] <TJ-> cryptz: are the underlying devices there?
[04:32] <deletemeplease> Nautilus_, so you're locked out of the sudo command
[04:32] <cryptz> yes
[04:32] <cryptz> i can reassemble the array manualyl with mdadm -As right now
[04:32] <Nautilus_> I could reimage and redo my vhost and hosts files, that's all I can do?
[04:32] <SubCool> deletemeplease, tail: cannot open `dmesg' for reading: No such file or directory
[04:32] <SubCool> Use netcat.
[04:32] <cryptz> i do not beleive boot is trying to assemble at all.
[04:32] <TJ-> cryptz: can you "pastebinit <( dmesg )"
[04:32] <SubCool> deletemeplease, should i use sudo?
[04:32] <Nautilus_> deletemeplease: yes
[04:32] <deletemeplease> SubCool, weird
[04:32] <somsip> Nautilus_: if you can rebuild from an image created prior to when you removed sudio rights, yes
[04:32] <deletemeplease> Nautilus_, This is the HIGHLY INSECURE
[04:32] <deletemeplease> way of fixing it
[04:33] <deletemeplease> Nautilus_, Are you in recovery mode?
[04:33] <SubCool> deletemeplease, welcome to my world.
[04:33] <cryptz> http://paste.ubuntu.com/13324491/
[04:33] <deletemeplease> Nautilus_, ssh in while in recovery mode.
[04:33] <Nautilus_> not in recovery mode, I can't seem to reboot from the command line to get to that option?
[04:33] <OerHeks> upgrading a VPN, those images are heavily tweaked, normally one would get an upgrade from the VPN provider
[04:33] <deletemeplease> Nautilus_, you have to do it from your VPS control panel
[04:33] <Jordan_U> Nautilus_: What change did the upgrade make to your sudoers file? What is the exact message you get when you try to use sudo currently?
[04:33] <Nautilus_> just went looking for that...
[04:34] <Nautilus_> it put the stock 14.04 sudoers file in
[04:34] <deletemeplease> Nautilus_, once you're in recovery mode execute this:
[04:34] <deletemeplease> mount -o remount /dev/sda1 /mnt
[04:34] <deletemeplease> chroot /mnt
[04:34] <Jordan_U> deletemeplease: sshing into a machine "while in recovery mode" won't (and shouldn't) get you a root shell through ssh.
[04:35] <deletemeplease> Jordan_U, Nautilus_ your VPS provider should have a remote screen option
[04:35] <deletemeplease> It will be like sitting infront of the machine instead of using SSH
[04:35] <Nautilus_> yea let me try some things through the vps CP
[04:35] <deletemeplease> Nautilus_, once logged in, here is your command to use
[04:36] <deletemeplease> touch /mnt/sd1 && mount -o remount, rw / /mnt/sd1 && chroot /mnt/sd1
[04:36] <deletemeplease> That should drop you into your root partition again.
[04:36] <deletemeplease> You will still have root permissions though.
[04:36] <deletemeplease> from there you can fix your sudoers file
[04:36] <SubCool> deletemeplease, i just pushed for a reboot- lets see what happens...
[04:37] <SubCool> i hope it comes back on..
[04:37] <deletemeplease> SubCool, ok
[04:37] <deletemeplease> Nautilus_, when you're done fixing the sudoers file use this command:
[04:37] <deletemeplease> sync && exit
[04:37] <deletemeplease> Then it will become safe to reboot the VPS
[04:38] <cryptz> Tj let me know if you need anything else dmesg looks incomplete
[04:38] <cryptz> from what i posted atleast
[04:38] <deletemeplease> Does anyone know how to operate thinkfan?
[04:38] <deletemeplease> my thinpad is running it's fan at 42c...
[04:38] <Jordan_U> deletemeplease: 1: Touch doesn't create directories, mkdir does. You're making assumptions that a device named /dev/sda1 exists, which on a VPS it likely won't (it will instead often be /dev/vda1), and you're also making assumptions about their VPS even having a mode like this, and that it works the way you're expecting. Do you know what VPS provider deletemeplease is using?
[04:38] <sanitypassing> hi, can anyone tell me the command ubuntu uses to start daemons? I'm running a 15.10 server, but I'm used to a different distros commands and so I have no idea how to daemonize docker right now. :\
[04:39] <Jordan_U> sanitypassing: sudo systemctl start service_name
[04:40] <deletemeplease> Jordan_U, I've found that using touch in /mnt and mounting a filesystem to the file you touched has been pretty reliable under ubuntu whereas using mkdir has been in debian. 99% of VPS providers will provide sda1
[04:40] <sanitypassing> ah, ubuntu uses systemd too?
[04:40] <deletemeplease> Jordan_U, I'e never encountered vda1 with KVM
[04:40] <NetworkingPro> anyone use ffmpeg on ubunut?
[04:40] <NetworkingPro> *ubuntu?
[04:40] <deletemeplease> if he's using Xen or OpenVZ then goodluck :)
[04:40] <deletemeplease> NetworkingPro, works perfectly, sanitypassing yes.
[04:41] <deletemeplease> sanitypassing, sudo service <service> <operation>
[04:41] <sanitypassing> Well, it appears the server isn't using systemctl
[04:41] <sanitypassing> ah that worked
[04:41] <sanitypassing> thanks!
[04:41] <deletemeplease> no problem
[04:41] <Nautilus_> deletemeplease: cannot touch /mnt/sd1: permission denied
[04:41] <TJ-> cryptz: OK, so the devices are "Micron P420m-MTFDGAR1T4MAX" on the mtip32xx controllers 43:00.0 and 44:00.0 ?
[04:41] <deletemeplease> Nautilus_, mkdir /mnt/sd1
[04:41] <cryptz> yes
[04:42] <cryptz> 3 total
[04:42] <VictoriaXOXO> TJ-: Dude!
[04:42] <deletemeplease> mkdir -r /mnt/sd1 && mount -o remount, rw / /mnt/sd1 && chroot /mnt/sd1
[04:42] <Nautilus_> deletemeplease: permission denied :(
[04:42] <deletemeplease> Nautilus_, O_o
[04:42] <deletemeplease> Nautilus_, whoami
[04:42] <TJ-> cryptz: sda being the 3rd, the OS boot device?
[04:42] <Nautilus_> shows my user name
[04:42] <deletemeplease> Nautilus_, that is?
[04:42] <cryptz> correct sda is actually a hardware mirror off of the dell perc h710 controller, boot device as well
[04:43] <Nautilus_> deletemeplease: brian
[04:43] <deletemeplease> Nautilus_, recovery mode?
[04:43] <SubCool> deletemeplease, thanks for trying. I tried to reboot it- and ... it didnt happen. SO, i have to wait until tomorrow.
[04:43] <SubCool> thanks guys.
[04:43] <Nautilus_> nope, doesn't look like I have a way to get there
[04:43] <NetworkingPro> deletemeplease: ffmpeg question relating to rebroadcasting a stream?
[04:43] <TJ-> cryptz: ok... I *suspect* the issue is the naming of the block devices on the mtip32xx... you showed rsssdXY, is that corrrect?
[04:43] <deletemeplease> SubCool, that sucks :(
[04:43] <Jordan_U> deletemeplease: mkdir doesn't have a -r option, and you have an extra space between 'remount,' and 'rw'.
[04:43] <deletemeplease> SubCool, generally I don't use the offline clients on Linux becuase they're horrid
[04:44] <deletemeplease> Jordan_U, It's late and I'm tired.
[04:44] <deletemeplease> >.>
[04:44] <deletemeplease> almost midnight here.
[04:44] <dupingping> https://bugs.launchpad.net/lightdm/+bug/1517309
[04:44] <cryptz> tj they are /dev/rssda /dev/rssdb and /dev/rssdc i did not create partitions this time around. the guide from dell/micron does also not create partitions on the drive and add the partitions to the md array.
[04:44] <Jordan_U> deletemeplease: Possibly not a good time to be giving support then.
[04:45] <deletemeplease> mkdir /mnt/sd1 && mount -o remount, rw / /mnt/sd1 && chroot /mnt/sd1
[04:45] <Jordan_U> deletemeplease: Extra space still.
[04:45] <deletemeplease> Jordan_U, whoops
[04:45] <Nautilus_> still, not in recovery mode
[04:45] <deletemeplease> Nautilus_, and you can't sudo su?
[04:45] <cryptz> @tj i am basically following this guide at this point, http://linux.dell.com/files/whitepapers/Linux_Software_RAID_Volumes_with_PCIe-SSD.pdf this did work on older versions of ubuntu
[04:45] <deletemeplease> Nautilus_, have you tried sudo su?
[04:46] <deletemeplease> or sudo bash -i
[04:46] <Nautilus_> I'm not in the sudoers file
[04:46] <cryptz> you could say prior to systemd, but are you seeing an attempt to create the array? i didnt see it, atleast not with the associations i was searching for
[04:46] <deletemeplease> Nautilus_, is your VPS KVM, OpenVZ, or Xen?
[04:46] <TJ-> cryptz: I suspect the issue is simply that the udevd rules that match newly added blockdevices are NOT matching the 'rs*' pattern
[04:46] <deletemeplease> (it's helps to know)
[04:46] <killsomehiggers> why can't we get rid of all the niggers
[04:47] <Nautilus_> deletemeplease: I couldnt say
[04:47] <deletemeplease> Jordan_U, that was fast :)
[04:47] <deletemeplease> I was going to use hte ops command
[04:48] <cryptz> tj do u know where that logic resides, i can atleast take a look. the system is test i am willing to edit anything i can to try. i can safely say there will only ever be a software raid on these devices in this system, to that point i can probably take a good junk of the variables out of this. if there is a suitable place for me to simply issue the mdadm -As command that may work as well but
[04:48] <cryptz> i need to have md0 up before fstab obviously
[04:49] <hiya> is Ubuntu the most secure OS in the world?
[04:49] <Jordan_U> Nautilus_: What change did the upgrade make to your sudoers file? What is the exact message you get when you try to use sudo currently?
[04:49] <Jordan_U> hiya: No. Do you have an Ubuntu support question?
[04:50] <TJ-> cryptz: I suspect its /lib/udev/rules.d/60-persistent-storage.rules
[04:50] <TJ-> cryptz: look at the line "KERNEL!= ... GOTO="persistent_storage_end" "
[04:50] <hiya> Jordan_U, I don't know, I did not start to use it yet
[04:50] <Nautilus_> Jordan_U: I believe it put the stock 14.04 sudoers file in place of mine, doing a reboot but it says I'm not in the sudoers file
[04:51] <TJ-> cryptz: I suspect you need to add to that group of alternate matches "|rs*" at the end so the rule continues to process the device
[04:52] <Nautilus_> Jordan_U: "brian is not in the sudoers file. This incident will be reported."
[04:52] <ryan_> check
[04:52] <Jordan_U> Nautilus_: Had you manually edited /etc/suders before? It by default doesn't include any users by default, but rather just the "admin" and "sudo" groups, and any user that is a member of either group can run commands as root using sudo. Also note that upgrades will not replace files in /etc/ without prompting you first.
[04:53] <Nautilus_> yes I did add my user brian
[04:53] <TJ-> cryptz: I think you'll also need to add a match under the heading "# SCSI devices"
[04:53] <Nautilus_> and yea, it prompted me. oops
[04:53] <Jordan_U> Nautilus_: OK. Do you have any users (like one created during initial installation) that are members of the "admin" group?
[04:54] <TJ-> cryptz: to capture both the whole device, and partitions, you probably need to add "|rs*" to the 2 lines in that block that begin "KERNEL=="sd*|..."
[04:54] <Nautilus_> doubtful. I can't cat sudoers to see whats in there
[04:54] <TJ-> cryptz: it looks to me like you'd be better off creating a complete new rules file rather than editing that file, that has the rules needed, in /etc/udev/rules.d/
[04:55] <cryptz> out of curiousity what are you running? i only ask because 14.04 is officially supported by micron i wonder if that script has changed, i am making your changes now though.
[04:55] <cryptz> is there a place to simply issue mdadm -As earlier enough in the process or is it too late
[04:55] <cryptz> also this did work on older versions
[04:56] <Nautilus_> Jordan_U: looks like I need to reimage the vps and start over?
[04:56] <TJ-> cryptz: They ought to provide a udev upe
[04:56] <Jordan_U> Nautilus_: You don't understand, I'm not asking you to look at /etc/sudoers, I'm asking you to look at /etc/group .
[04:56] <TJ-> cryptz: s/upe/rule/ !
[04:56] <Nautilus_> oh ok
[04:57] <TJ-> cryptz: Hmmm, is there a supporting driver/OS package?
[04:57] <K3y804rDCow80y> SubCool I'm back
[04:57] <Jordan_U> Nautilus_: Look for any members of the "admin" or "sudo" groups. If there are any, try logging in as one of them.
[04:57] <cryptz> well there is but not for 15.10
[04:57] <Nautilus_> Jordan_U: I'm not sure what to make of /etc group
[04:57] <TJ-> cryptz: the kernel log doesn't show those devices being discovered at all, but it does show sda
[04:57] <Nautilus_> it does shoe brian:x:1001:
[04:57] <Nautilus_> show*
[04:58] <Jordan_U> Nautilus_: Look for a line starting with "sudo" or "admin".
[04:58] <cryptz> tj but the devices are accessible after boot
[04:59] <cryptz> i just had them in a zfs volume as well
[04:59] <Nautilus_> sudo:x:27 , adm:x:4:syslog , don't see an admin
[04:59] <cryptz> but maybe the older driver pack modifies these udev rules
[04:59] <cryptz> to your point, i am saying it worked in older versions of ubuntu, but i used their drivers in those versions
[05:00] <TJ-> cryptz: hmmm, the log shows no sign of them at all. I see the 'scst' stuff but there's nothing specifi there either. Usually when the kernel discovers a block device, it'll report it and show the partition table if it has one
[05:00] <Nautilus_> Jordan_U: ^
[05:00] <TJ-> cryptz: I suspect there is a udev rule in that driver pack. Can you look? its only a text file so you can easily copy it into /etc/udev/rules.d/ if there is one (or more)
[05:00] <Jordan_U> Nautilus_: Then you're out of luck. Contact your VPS provider to see what they can do.
[05:01] <Nautilus_> Jordan_U: thanks a bunch for the help, I'll have to reimage it and put the site files back
[05:01] <cryptz> its a deb file how would i extract
[05:02] <TJ-> cryptz: "dpkg-deb -x <file.deb> /path/to/some/dir"
[05:03] <VictoriaXOXO> TJ-: I promised to let you know how the USB stick turned out. PERFECT!
[05:04] <VictoriaXOXO> 100% perfect.
[05:04] <VictoriaXOXO> TJ-: Plus, I got rid of all the stupid startup GUI/splash stuff.
[05:04] <TJ-> VictoriaXOXO: That's great :)
[05:04] <cryptz> tj i do not believe i have what we need, the contains /usr/src folders, only content is dkms.conf extra.c extra.h makefile mtip32xx.c mtip32xx.h
[05:05] <TJ-> cryptz: OK, that sounds like the source-code for a DKMS kernel module build
[05:05] <Nautilus_> Jordan_U: thanks again, reimage in progress.
[05:05] <TJ-> cryptz: I'm not sure then, but it feels like because the devices have an unconventional name the idev rules won't match them
[05:05] <VictoriaXOXO> TJ-: It sure is! By the way, do you know how to check all the sums of a file? md5, sha-1, and so on?
[05:05] <TJ-> !info jacksum | VictoriaXOXO
[05:06] <VictoriaXOXO> TJ-: And that is the best way?
[05:06] <VictoriaXOXO> TJ-: Can I check just the sha-1 sum manually from a terminal?
[05:06] <TJ-> VictoriaXOXO: one tool that runs abotu 30+ hash/checksum algorithms against a file
[05:06] <cryptz> is there a window where i can issue the command mdadm -As before fstab is referenced so that i could assemble the array with a script at the right time in the boot process. after the system boots the devices are ok so it seems doable i just dont know the right location to put that command
[05:06] <TJ-> VictoriaXOXO: "sha1sum <file>"
[05:07] <VictoriaXOXO> TJ-: I'll write it down, but for now I'll use that "sha1sum <file>" command. Thanks! :D
[05:07] <TJ-> cryptz: that's the point of the udev rules. If they were being triggered, mdadm would be launched automatically
[05:07] <TJ-> cryptz: but for the udev mdadm rules to fire, first, the underlying devices have to be recognised, and processed as, block devices
[05:08] <cryptz> at some point they obviously are though
[05:09] <TJ-> cryptz: the nodes are there, but the extra userspace stuff that scans them isn't being triggered from everything you've shown, which is why you have to manually fire mdadm on the nodes
[05:09] <marksr> Eval...
[05:10] <cryptz> what is the search command to look for a hit on rssd* within the udev folder maybe i can find somethign else but to your point it may not be there
[05:10] <cryptz> but somethign is showing these drives as block devices by the time i can access them
[05:13] <TJ-> cryptz: you're confusing yourself. The /dev/rs* device is being created, thats not the issue. The issue is that when it is created udev rules need to recognise the *name* as a SCSI block device and scan those devices for signs of metadata to trigger mdadm. That never happens.
[05:14] <cryptz> gotcha i just wanted to search the udev folder file contents for an occurance of rs* or perhaps more specifically rssd*
[05:14] <cryptz> incase it was handled in another rule
[05:15] <cryptz> i still havent tried your suggestions to modify that file and i can do that now
[05:15] <cryptz> my biggest concern was not an immediate failure but somethign over a period of time
[05:15] <TJ-> cryptz: that's why I recommended adding a new rule in /etc/udev/rules.d/ that does for the rs* devices the same actions that /lib/udev/rules.d/60-persistent-storage.rules does for sd* devices
[05:15] <cryptz> ok fair enough let me try that
[05:16] <cryptz> once i make that change do those files fire automatically or does something need to be done, i know there is also an /etc/udev/rules.d and i wasnt sure what the distinction was
[05:24] <TJ-> cryptz: Looking at the rules, I think the file that contains the relevant bits for discovering/assembling is /lib/udev/rules.d/64-md-raid-assembly.rules
[05:25] <Jerry_> Hello everyone
[05:25] <cryptz> ok do you feel the 60-rules are also necessary still
[05:25] <Jerry_> i am facing a problem giblib error: Can't open X display. It *is* running, yeah
[05:27] <TJ-> cryptz: without seeing udev in action its hard to tell. You could use udevadm monitor and udevadm trigger to fire the rules processing again, and look at the rules being processed for those rs* devices.
[05:27] <cryptz> ok well you have definately given me alot of help and got me pointed in the right direction
[05:27] <cryptz> it has been a great learnign experience, you will be happy to know i do not do this for a living =)
[05:27] <cryptz> thank you very much
[05:28] <Jerry_> how, can i figure out it?
[05:28] <cryptz> one last question
[05:28] <cryptz> it seems alot of people put their custom items in etc/udev
[05:28] <cryptz> what is the dif vs lib
[05:28] <Jerry_> i am facing a problem giblib error: Can't open X display.
[05:30] <cryptz> hey Tj, your suggested changes to rule 60 actually did it, i made those changes (creating them from scrarch was a little intimidating at first) and after a reboot md0 is intact!
[05:30] <cryptz> i know i will lose those changes after an upgrade though so i will try to find a better way
[05:30] <cryptz> the discs must adhere to the rules in 64 after the changes to 60..
[05:31] <Jerry_> Please help me guys.
[05:32] <hdavidzhu> exit
[05:32] <TJ-> cryptz: right, move the rules to /etc/udev/rules.d/ then
[05:33] <cryptz> at the moment i simply edited rule 60 in those 3 spots, i didnt want to create a stand alone rule that wasnt scoped correctly
[05:33] <cryptz> i will experiment with that
[05:33] <TJ-> cryptz: I did create a stripped down file for you to test, look at this: http://paste.ubuntu.com/13324934/
[05:34] <TJ-> cryptz: that should do it; and then you don't need to have the system package rules modified (which would get wiped out any time the udev package is upgraded)
[05:34] <cryptz> ok so if this goes in /etc/udev/... it should persist through upgrades?
[05:35] <TJ-> cryptz: correct, anything under /etc/udev/rules.d/ belongs to the sys-admin not the package
[05:35] <cryptz> well this is awesome! thanks so much
[05:35] <TJ-> cryptz: the important thing is to have the number of the file lower than the system package, so your rules get processed first
[05:35] <TJ-> cryptz: notice i set it to 59-
[05:35] <cryptz> yep
[05:36] <TJ-> cryptz: revert your changes and test that rules file, ensure it does the job :)
[05:38] <TJ-> cryptz: I think the KEY line there is 26, where it imports into the udev environment, the variables generated by 'blkid' since those will include the 'FS_TYPE' which the MD rules will match to
[05:40] <cryptz> rebooting now with 60's changes reverted and your custom 59
[05:41] <cryptz> are there any good books that would have told me about udev i have been using linux as a san for about 2 years but never had to interact with it
[05:42] <cryptz> i didnt know what was actually piecing this all together at boot
[05:42] <TJ-> I think there's some online docs for udev, but it's mostly aquired experience :)
[05:42] <cryptz> problem with linux for me is that there could be good docs on udev, i wasnt going to be looking for udev related docs though =)
[05:43] <TJ-> cryptz: yeah, that's why IRC is so useful.
[05:43] <TJ-> cryptz: can put you on the correct track
[05:43] <cryptz> biggest headache was there were alot of people with this problem and it was just mdadm.conf related as well.. so i spent a day looking through all of those
[05:44] <TJ-> My mantra here has become "read the logs, Luke!"
[05:44] <cryptz> well i really appreciate it again man..
[05:44] <cryptz> i really didnt see anything in the logs
[05:44] <cryptz> i didnt know what i was looking for tbh
[05:44] <cryptz> so i was searching for md0 and my device names
[05:44] <cryptz> never saw it
[05:44] <TJ-> cryptz: yes, that was the point... the devices weren't in the logs when they ought to be
[05:44] <cryptz> it just came back up with md0 intact
[05:45] <cryptz> yes i would have just concluded aww shit someone stole my pciessds
[05:45] <cryptz> i honestly didnt think it was trying to assemble, i just had no clue why
[05:48] <cryptz> i am heading off now, i greatly appreciate all of your help
[05:49] <Nautilus_> hoping for a quick tip, how do I tell where my DocumentRoot directive is pointing to?
[05:50] <Nautilus_> oh, I found a /var/www dir, that's the place? New 14.04 image
[05:52] <Jerry_> guys please help
[05:52] <Jerry_> i am facing a problem giblib error: Can't open X display.
[06:01] <game000> guys, I'm trying to use mysql but I see that it's installed
[06:01] <game000> but I cannot open phpmyadmin in my browser from my machine
[06:01] <game000> why?
[06:02] <hamnstar> hey folks
[06:02] <hamnstar> trying to run popcorntime
[06:02] <hamnstar> getting a black screen - appears to be waiting on an AF_LOCAL socket talking to X11
[06:02] <hamnstar> any ideas
[06:03] <hamnstar> ?
[06:03] <Guest75454> game000, if its installed, whats the issue?
[06:04] <VictoriaXOXO> Holy ****. Paris is under attack again.
[06:04] <game000> Guest75454> I'm using ssh connection and I installed it and it's not working
[06:04] <ParadiseHunter> VictoriaXOXO, is that true? Sh**** how long ago?
[06:05] <VictoriaXOXO> ParadiseHunter: I just noticed it. Think it's breaking. http://www.cbs12.com/news/top-stories/stories/reports-gun-fire-possible-explosions-near-saintdenis-area-paris-france-31252.shtml?wap=0&
[06:05] <ParadiseHunter> damn it ...
[06:06] <ParadiseHunter> yes headlines on google
[06:06] <cairaptor> Is that the police after #9?
[06:06] <game000> Guest75454> I don't know what's the problem
[06:10] <hipitihop> I have an in-house single page app that runs in Chrome/Canary which causes the tab to crash. I have investigated chrome logging but nothing useful. Can anyone suggest a way to get more insight into the chrome process/tab ?
[06:11] <game000> guys when I use nano how can I write over the file
[06:12] <game000> cause I'm using ctrl+x and it's showing me some option. and I don't know how to write over the file
[06:12] <danatwork> game000: Ctrl + O
ok, then there's some option came to me: M-D Dos , M-A
[06:13] <game000> etc ..
[06:15] <Abe> hello I did an Update but now my resolution is only 1024x768 and I can't set it higher??
[06:21] <ParadiseHunter> game000, if you are not comfortable with text editors in CLI mode, try gedit <filename>
[06:21] <ParadiseHunter> or leafpad <filename>
[06:22] <game000> I'm using ubuntu server
[06:22] <Abe> ok I fixed it
I'm using the ubuntu server version
[06:23] <Abe> the cable wasn;t in right
[06:25] <ParadiseHunter> game000, you know vi editor?
[06:25] <Massrawy> Abe : thanks for the update, sure might help someone else who may overlook this.
[06:25] <ParadiseHunter> though nano is the simplest ones :-)
I solved the problem by clicking on ctrl+o and then press enter
[06:26] <game000> it will overwrite the file
[06:26] <ParadiseHunter> sweet
thanks for your help
[06:27] <Orian> Gretings
[06:27] <Orian> ill lurk now
[06:28] <ParadiseHunter> I did nothing you solved yourself, cheers!
[06:28] <VictoriaXOXO> Sorry all for the off-topic, but this just happened in France. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mJDEUmy7Wzk
[06:29] <lotuspsychje> VictoriaXOXO: please not here
[06:29] <VictoriaXOXO> That's the only thing I will post. :)
[06:30] <lotuspsychje> VictoriaXOXO: we have an offtopic channel for such
[06:38] <neonixcoder> Good day all
[06:38] <neonixcoder> how can I change a partition label in Ubuntu?
[06:39] <neonixcoder> I used tune2fs -L "" /dev/sda1 which is not working..
[06:39] <neonixcoder> Can I know how to remove already assigned label for a partition?
[06:44] <emitattuo> neonixcoder, gparted does that easily
[06:45] <neonixcoder> is it?
[06:45] <emitattuo> neonixcoder, unless you're working on an LVM setup, yeah, it'll do what you want.
[06:45] <neonixcoder> no LVM setup..
[06:45] <neonixcoder> Let me have a look..
[06:46] <neonixcoder> Thanks, emitattuo.
[06:46] <emitattuo> neonixcoder, you're welcome. I use it for most any non-LVM partitioning.
[06:48] <neonixcoder> emitatuo: No other tools like e2label etc?
[06:48] <emitattuo> It's also installed by default on most live CDs/USB distributions, so it's commonly available if you are trying to do something like resize a partition on an already installed system.
[06:48] <emitattuo> emitattuo, I'm sure there's many other tools, yes.
[06:49] <emitattuo> uh, neonixcoder ^^
[06:50] <emitattuo> (Not enough sleep lately)
[06:51] <neonixcoder> emitattuo: I just require removing label from a partition not resizing..
[06:56] <Enobkcab> Hello everyone!
[06:56] <lotuspsychje> Enobkcab: welcome, what can we do for you?
[07:02] <Inkletblot> hai?
[07:30] <Irrtum> hi
[07:47] <DF3D2> whats good my buntuers
[07:51] <derock299> hello, I upgraded from 15.04 to 15.10 online. After the upgrade i got a notification to reboot my system to finish the upgrade, during the reboot, the system hanged and it wont move from that stage
[07:51] <sliddis> Hello how do I compile a program I downloaded from git? I downloaded with git clone url.git
[07:51] <derock299> hello
[07:52] <OerHeks> !build
[07:52] <derock299> how do I change back cos I can't access my pc now, although I have another partition running 14.10, please help guys
[07:53] <OerHeks> derock299, upgrade issue, do you happen to have an ATI videocard, there are issues with these, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WilyWerewolf/ReleaseNotes#Graphics_and_Display
[07:54] <derock299> I am using a Radeon graphics in HP probook
[07:54] <derock299> I have removed the drive and made it external drive, is there a way I can correct this now
[07:55] <derock299> I have upgraded using the same method from 14.10 to 15.04 without any issue but encountered this issue on 15.10
[07:55] <OerHeks> boot in recovery mode, uninstall fglrx and reinstall the open driver.
[07:57] <abdel_> I upgraded from 15.04 to 15.10 in ubuntu, it asked me to reboot my pc, during the reboot, my system hanged and it wont move from that stage. please can you help me guys . I need to access my PC back pls
[07:57] <abdel_> Although I have another partition running 14.10 on the same PC.
[07:58] <SeriouslyLaugh> abdel_ give this a read https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecoveryMode
[07:58] <SeriouslyLaugh> http://www.howtogeek.com/196740/how-to-fix-an-ubuntu-system-when-it-wont-boot/
[07:59] <abdel_> Seriously I will do that now but I need a quick fix, I have already removed my drive and made it external drive, is there a way I can correct the external drive now so that my OS will start working?
[07:59] <SeriouslyLaugh> there isn't really a magic solution
[07:59] <SeriouslyLaugh> it depends on why it wont boot
[07:59] <SeriouslyLaugh> you'll have to troubleshoot it
[08:01] <OerHeks> abdel_ = derock299 , again: boot in recovery, remove the fglrx driver and use the open driver .. ( why asking it with 2 names ?)
[08:01] <OerHeks> sudo apt-get remove --purge fglrx*
[08:01] <emadhelmi> Hi
[08:01] <abdel_> how do I remove the fglrx, I am quite a novice at Oerhks, please help
[08:01] <emadhelmi> How can i check the server side programming language of a website?
[08:02] <SeriouslyLaugh> i'm genuinely amazed that people are technically inclined enough to come to this channel to ask for help but don't think to try google first
[08:02] <SeriouslyLaugh> nothing personal
[08:02] <abdel_> but I cannot access the drive now, its not booting, it hangs during boot
[08:04] <sliddis> When I try to compile with "make" i get error std::__cxx11::string Dines::random_string(size_t)
[08:04] <OerHeks> abdel_, hold shift @ boot, and choose recovery mode in the grub2 menu
[08:04] <sliddis> along with a lot of other errors
[08:05] <abdel_> i have tried that Oerheks, the recovery mode hangs too
[08:05] <abdel_> let me try again sir
[08:06] <derock299> I am here OerHeks
[08:08] <derock299> do you mean immediately i boot my pc, I should hold the shift key @oerheks, what do I do after that?
[08:09] <OerHeks> derock299, after the bios page, hold shift > https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecoveryMode
[08:11] <derock299> okay i will have to put the drive back into my pc and try again @oerheks
[08:16] <ColonelUsername> Does anyone know of something like this (http://conjurecode.com/create-indicator-applet-for-ubuntu-unity-with-python/) for C? I'm looking for a tutorial on how to make a panel-indicator, or maybe some documentation that's less than four years old, and google is not being helpful.
[08:18] <derock299> is there a way I can remove the fglxr* on the external drive ?
[08:19] <derock299> I have another drive on my pc running 14.04 and the one that refuses to boot is now an external drive.
[08:19] <baizon> derock299: boot into text mode and remove it then
[08:19] <derock299> please guide me baizon
[08:20] <derock299> i really don't know how to do this
[08:20] <baizon> derock299: http://askubuntu.com/questions/92276/how-do-i-boot-into-true-text-mode
[08:22] <derock299> @baizon: the affected drive is now an external drive, so how will I do sudo update-grub
[08:22] <derock299> based on the link you sent, after editing the etc file, I was told to do sudo update-grub
[08:23] <baizon> derock299: yes
[08:23] <sliddis> http://paste.debian.net/333486/ what is wrong when compiling this? I downloaded from github with git clone. got build-essential, autoconf, libcppunit-dev
[08:23] <baizon> derock299: boot into recovery mode and do this
[08:24] <derock299> from the etc file i couldn't fine fglxr*
[08:24] <derock299> okay baizon will I boot into recovery mode, the drive is now an external drive
[08:24] <derock299> please show me sir
[08:25] <baizon> derock299: http://askubuntu.com/questions/16042/how-to-get-to-the-grub-menu-at-boot-time
[08:26] <baizon> derock299: and this http://askubuntu.com/questions/150367/how-do-i-boot-into-recovery-mode
[08:28] <derock299> I have two partitions one is still 14.10 and I can access that partition, can I fix the second partition from the working partition @baizon
[08:30] <baizon> derock299: you want to deinstall fglrx?
[08:30] <serveur_> hello
[08:37] <Yume> list
[08:55] <arch> http://askubuntu.com/questions/91815/how-to-install-software-or-upgrade-from-an-old-unsupported-release
[09:07] <derock299> baizon, here is my problem. I upgraded from 15.04 to 15.10, I was asked to reboot to complete installation, during the reboot, my pc hanged, i waited for 4 hours but it never passed that stage. My pc runs two partitions (14.10 and 15.04) the 14.10 partition is still accessible but the issue now is with the 15.04 partition which was upgraded to 15.10 and encountered issues. so how do I fix this issue now sir
[09:08] <stevenm> Hey due to "Micro Release Exceptions" as they were called... Ubuntu forces upon us the latest Firefox and Thunderbird... this is normally fine... but I'm having a real issue with Thunderbird 38 and need to go back to 31 - what is the proper way to do this?
[09:11] <arch> how to install software or upgrade form an old unsupported release. http://bit.ly/1WYu9Q4
[09:15] <stevenm> anyone?
[09:16] <explosive> arch: type cat /etc/issue
[09:16] <explosive> stevenm: there's not really a proper way to do it
[09:16] <derock299> please can somebody help me with my issue please
[09:17] <explosive> stevenm: if you use the older firefox it might have vulnerabilities
[09:17] <stevenm> explosive, no i'm trying to use an older thunderbird
[09:17] <stevenm> explosive, given the only thing it connects to is my own trusted mail server - i'm fine taking the risk... not like it is a web browser
[09:18] <explosive> stevenm: you could uninstall it, and then download the .deb and use dpkg to install it, but it also might have vulnerabilities
[09:18] <explosive> archive.ubuntu.com for the deb files
[09:18] <explosive> dpkg -i <deb file> to install
[09:18] <stevenm> explosive, can i pin it or something so it won't upgrade?
[09:18] <explosive> yeah i think you can use apt-mark or something to do that
[09:18] <derock299> baizon, here is my problem. I upgraded from 15.04 to 15.10, I was asked to reboot to complete installation, during the reboot, my pc hanged, i waited for 4 hours but it never passed that stage. My pc runs two partitions (14.10 and 15.04) the 14.10 partition is still accessible but the issue now is with the 15.04 partition which was upgraded to 15.10 and encountered issues. so how do I fix this issue now sir
[09:19] <explosive> type man apt_preferences to read about it
[09:20] <explosive> derock299: what does it hang on while booting?
[09:20] <derock299> it gets to a stage and just hangs there
[09:21] <derock299> it doesnt move from there, it gives an error that failed to boot systemct or something, I cant remember
[09:22] <explosive> derock299: can you get the exact error?
[09:23] <derock299> i was told that I need to do sudo apt-get remove --purge fglxr*
[09:23] <derock299> but I dont even know how to do it because my safe mode hangs too, I will have to put this PC off
[09:24] <explosive> derock299: try booting with these kernel parameters: nomodeset
[09:24] <explosive> instead of quiet splash
[09:24] <cfhowlett> !nomodeset | derFlo
[09:24] <cfhowlett> derock299, this ^^
[09:26] <derock299> explosive how do i do the nomodeset?
[09:26] <derock299> can I correct the drive manually since i have turned it into external drive now
[09:27] <explosive> derock299: hold shift when the pc boots, to get grub, press e, then edit the line that starts with linux /boot/vmlinuz...
[09:27] <explosive> then press ctrl+x
[09:28] <derock299> okay let me put it off and try
[09:28] <derock299> thanks
[09:29] <ren0v0> hi, i've changed "automatically check for updates" to "never", yet i'm still receiving GUI popups for updates?
[09:29] <explosive> np
[09:30] <explosive> ren0v0: i think that only doesn't check for updates
[09:31] <explosive> if you use apt-get update it's the same
[09:31] <explosive> cause i sometimes apt-get update then immediately get a popup from the gui
[09:31] <explosive> remove the display popup for security and the other one if you want to not see them
[09:34] <derock299> @explosive: how do I do the sudo apt-get remove --purge fglxr*?
[09:42] <e01> i had installed slack on ubuntu, but now almost every file is opened (double click) with it by default, how can i fix this without uninstalling slack?
[09:43] <reisio> e01: slack?
[09:44] <e01> reisio, not th distro but the messaging app
[09:45] <reisio> 'configuration management program for lazy admins' ?
[09:45] <e01> nvm
[09:46] * reisio rolls eyes
[09:46] <derock299> okay I have removed my hard drive and turned it to external drive but i cant view the content of my drive in the home file, I get only a read me text which give this erro:This link cannot be used because its target “/usr/share/ecryptfs-utils/ecryptfs-mount-private.txt” doesn't exist.
[09:46] <reisio> gonna use software with a terrible name, people are going to be unclear as to what you're talking about
[09:46] <derock299> please how to I access all my files in my external drive
[09:46] <reisio> derock299: does that file exist?
[09:48] <derock299> @reisio: I have removed my drive with ubuntu 15.04 on it, i turned it to external drive, now when I insert it in another system running ubuntu 14.10, I can see the drive but there's nothing on my home folder
[09:48] <derock299> and i have files about 200gb in the drive
[09:49] <reisio> derock299: that doesn't answer my question
[09:50] <derock299> no it doesnt exist i just checked @reisio
[09:50] <reisio> derock299: so tell it where it is
[09:50] <derock299> please how do I access content of my drive @reisio?
[09:51] <reisio> derock299: it's looking for /usr/share/ecryptfs-utils/ecryptfs-mount-private.txt
[09:51] <derock299> where is that located ?
[09:51] <reisio> derock299: that is where
[09:51] <reisio> that's an absolute path
[09:51] <reisio> if it's not there, then you've moved it
[09:51] <derock299> sorry reisio, i checked again its there
[09:52] <NaOH> He lost his key :/
[09:52] <derock299> its there: /usr/share/ecryptfs-utils/ecryptfs-mount-private.txt
[09:52] <derock299> its there
[09:52] <derock299> but I cannot view the content of my drive
[09:53] <NaOH> wouldn't there = the 200gb drive and so would not be /usr/share/ecryptfs-utils/ecryptfs-mount-private.txt but more like /media/USERNAME/usr/share/ecryptfs-utils/ecryptfs-mount-private.txt ?
[09:54] <derock299> THIS DIRECTORY HAS BEEN UNMOUNTED TO PROTECT YOUR DATA.
[09:54] <derock299> From the graphical desktop, click on:
[09:54] <derock299> "Access Your Private Data"
[09:54] <derock299> or
[09:54] <derock299> From the command line, run:
[09:54] <derock299> ecryptfs-mount-private
[09:57] <derock299> okay this is what i want, I have removed my drive running ubuntu and converted it to external drive, please how do I access the content of the drive now
[10:05] <Blackout_> Hallo zusammen
[10:05] <reisio> 'lo
[10:05] <lotuspsychje> !de | Blackout_
[10:06] <reisio> ...
[10:10] <justrohu> Hello everyone
[10:10] <justrohu> I am very new to ubuntu
[10:11] <justrohu> can any one please guide me how to set up cron job in ubuntu
[10:11] <hateball> !cron
[10:13] <labsy> hi all
[10:13] <luzhlon> hu
[10:13] <luzhlon> hi
[10:13] <labsy> my server got hacked.
[10:13] <reisio> labsy: bummer
[10:13] <labsy> question is: I found out someone had access to user root with pubkey. I see his RSA (fingerprint)
[10:14] <labsy> but it is none of mine.
[10:15] <reisio> that isn't a question
[10:19] <andreas_> HI
[10:19] <explosive> hi
[10:19] <labsy> ah
[10:19] <labsy> the question is: how could this happen?
[10:19] <explosive> labsy: what's the server running? services?
[10:19] <labsy> a different fingerprint which is none of my keys in authorized_keys for user root.
[10:20] <labsy> explosive: mongo and redis. mongo was open without auth
[10:20] <labsy> no idea about redis
[10:20] <labsy> could someone do something via mongo shell?
[10:20] <labsy> is there a chance to do such thing with the mongo shell at all?
[10:22] <BuildTheRobots> good morning. can't seem to get ssl to work when connecting to either https://ubuntu.com or https://releases.ubuntu.com - does anyone know if it's supposed to work, and if not, how I can get a verified download of ubuntu, please?
[10:22] <Guest19904> O HO
[10:22] <cfhowlett> BuildTheRobots, use torrents
[10:23] <BuildTheRobots> cfhowlett: which is great, but as the torrent isn't downloaded over ssl it makes the torrent contents unverifiable, right?
[10:23] <labsy> any known vulnerability regarding ssh in recent time?
[10:23] <cfhowlett> BuildTheRobots, torrents are hashchecked via ubuntu and torrents themselves are sumchecked for accuracy
[10:23] <reisio> labsy: try #polls
[10:24] <cookie80> labsy: I'm just curious... what are the filepermissions of authorized_keys?
[10:24] <BuildTheRobots> cfhowlett: sure, but my point is, i have no way of knowing the torrent file I download from ubuntu.com is actually the torrent they've published
[10:24] <reisio> BuildTheRobots: the source doesn't matter if you check sums, that's the point
[10:24] <labsy> cookie80: now or back then?
[10:24] <reisio> BuildTheRobots: yes, you have
[10:24] <BuildTheRobots> reisio: so where do I get the checksums from
[10:24] <cookie80> labsy: back then
[10:24] <reisio> BuildTheRobots: any ubuntu mirror
[10:24] <cfhowlett> BuildTheRobots, false. md5sum with checksums from ubuntu
[10:24] <labsy> because the attacker deleted authorized_keys and made a directory out of it
[10:25] <reisio> md5 is outdated (though probably still sufficient enough)
[10:25] <explosive> labsy: check /var/log/auth.log
[10:25] <labsy> cookie80: 664
[10:25] <labsy> explosive: I did already. I told you I checked his fingerprint.
[10:25] <explosive> needless to say you should erase the server and start a fresh server
[10:25] <labsy> it was from auth.log
[10:25] <labsy> explosive: yes. will do it anyway. but Im more curious about how this even could happen at all
[10:26] <explosive> labsy: did he leave anything behind in the logs? /root/.*_history or something
[10:26] <explosive> or the user's history file
[10:26] <derock299> hello explosive, I have inserted my drive back into the pc, I went to recovery mode and to drop to rootshell prompt , I did sudo apt-get remove --purge pglxr*
[10:27] <labsy> explosive: he made a new superuser with uid 0
[10:27] <labsy> named Redistoor.
[10:27] <labsy> and he was logged in only 1 minute. if I can trust wtmp at all after this
[10:27] <explosive> labsy: check the logs of the services if they're still there, and any errors they might have given
[10:27] <labsy> so I guess it was a bot
[10:27] <derock299> i got this error: W: not using locking for read only lock file, E: unable to write to /var/cache/apt/ and E: The package lists or status file could not b e parsed or opened
[10:28] <explosive> derock299: remount in rw
[10:28] <derock299> then when I try to reboot my pc , during the reboot i get this:failed to start kernel modules error and check systemct1
[10:28] <explosive> mount -o remount,rw /
[10:28] <derock299> it then continues but hooks afterwards
[10:29] <derock299> how do I remount in rw
[10:29] <explosive> labsy: exploit-db.com might show recent vulnerabilities
[10:29] <derock299> please give me the steps
[10:29] <derock299> I went to drop to rootshell prompt and did: mount -o remount, rw/
[10:30] <derock299> and also mount --all
[10:30] <explosive> mount -o remount,rw /
[10:30] <derock299> but its not working
[10:30] <derock299> after mount -o remount,rw/ ......what do I do next
[10:31] <derock299> cos I ttried it and nothing worked my pc still hooks at start up
[10:31] <derock299> okay, I have two partitions, one of the partitions is working...I can access the other partitions but I cannot see my documents, please how can I do this and see my files
[10:34] <cookie80> labsy: recommended file permissions are 644, maybe the attacker was part of your group
[10:34] <labsy> cookie80: yes. investigating.
[10:35] <cookie80> labsy: or the exploited service
[10:35] <derock299> please I cannot access the contents of my second partition from the first partition, I can see the second partition but I cannot see my files, please help
[10:41] <MeTaL_GuRu> hello
[10:41] <reisio> 'lo metal
[10:54] <noelia> Hello everyone
[10:54] <noelia> I need some help here
[10:54] <cfhowlett> !ask | noelia
[10:55] <noelia> I have some broken packages and I don't know how to fix them
[10:56] <noelia> I can't install anything because of that
[10:58] <noelia> Synaptic is telling me I've got to fix the broken packages first...
[10:58] <noelia> I'm a newbie and I don't know how to do this.
[10:58] <cfhowlett> !patience | noelia
[10:59] <noelia> Ok, sorry
[11:05] <stevenm> Hey, where can I find the older version of Thunderbird 31 which my 14.04 system had before version 38 was forced upon it?
[11:05] <stevenm> Don't say archive.ubuntu.com as that does have version 31 but it seems compiled for later version of Ubuntu
[11:06] <bazhang> what about packages.ubuntu.com stevenm
[11:07] <stevenm> that web ui just lists version 38 for trusty
[11:09] <mcphail> stevenm: old versions are only kept in the repos for a short time. You may be stuck with it.
[11:09] <TJ-> stevenm: amd64 arch?
[11:09] <stevenm> TJ-, yeah
[11:09] <TJ-> stevenm: this should do you: see the "Built files" section. https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-mozilla-security/+archive/ubuntu/ppa/+build/7656102
[11:09] <stevenm> lightning really doesn't work properly with 38 when connected to my stupid work's office 365 system
[11:10] <stevenm> ah perfect thanks TJ-
[11:10] <mcphail> stevenm: frustrating. Do you have an older version in your apt cache?
[11:10] <stevenm> mcphail, no i checked
[11:11] <mcphail> stevenm: I see TJ- has solved your problem. Hope it helps
[11:11] <stevenm> i get why ubuntu does these micro release exceptions (e.g. libreoffice, firefox and thunderbird get updated regardless) but this kind of thing is annoying
[11:12] <stevenm> well i've under installed thunderbird 38 and related packages - after i've installed 31 again - how can I stop apt from upgradgint them? i think it's pinning isn't it? can I pin anything called thunderbird* or xul-ext-lightning* ?
[11:13] <mcphail> stevenm: I think pinning is the correct thing to do, but I've never done it and don't know the syntax
[11:13] <TJ-> stevenm: you can mark the packages as held
[11:14] <stevenm> TJ-, hmm that page seems to be missing thunderbird-locale-en-gb
[11:14] <TJ-> stevenm: see "man apt-mark" ... you'd want to do "apt-mark hold <package1> <package2> ..."
[11:16] <TJ-> stevenm: you want the -en package. en-gb was a transitional, empty, package
[11:16] <noelia> I'm having problems with Synaptic, I can't fix the broken packages, I'm filtering them but still don't appear
[11:22] <noelia> TJ - Can you help me, please?
[11:25] <Kartagis> why is wifi lost after returning from hibernation?
[11:25] <ludza> can someone help me a boot a distributable dvd i created with remastersys. it completed successfully but gave an error that it might not boot on all bioses
[11:25] <Kartagis> Intel Corporation PRO/Wireless 5100 AGN [Shiloh] Network Connection is the wirelss card
[11:26] <cfhowlett> ludza, remastersys has been discontinued and no longer supported for some time now. might not be trustworthy ...
[11:27] <noelia> cfhowlett I've read some information on the internet but none of the workarounds is working :(
[11:27] <ludza> So is there any other app i can use to make a distributable copy of my running system
[11:28] <cfhowlett> noelia, I don't have enough knowledge to provide meaningful help. ask every 20 minutes or so. soory
[11:28] <cfhowlett> !uck | ludza
[11:28] <lynxer10> good moring all
[11:28] <stevenm> thanks TJ- :)
[11:29] <ludza> Thanks @ubottu
[11:33] <co10> hey its liam, sup
[11:33] <co10> yo reply hommies
[11:33] <co10> my name is jeff
[11:34] <cfhowlett> co10, this is ubuntu support. stay on topic or try #ubuntu-offtopic
[11:35] <co10> scott is a mr chow
[11:36] <cfhowlett> co10, off-topic.
[11:36] <co10> hi sam :-)
[11:36] <sebastianlutter> I hunt a bug in a Java JNI shared library. Is there a way on ubuntu to identify missing shared libs of a given .so file? Like ldd -v, but only shows dependencies that are missing on the actual box?
[11:37] <Sonu> Hi ... i am facing a Curl issue on my server.. Curl is enabled but not working ...http://awesomescreenshot.com/0445exek37
[11:39] <vooze> Hi, i'm running 14.04.3 on my laptop. some times after resume from sleep. the touchpad is "frozen" it can scroll, but not move. Mouse works just fine. It works restarting unity. Is the synaptic driver in the kernel, or do I need to run something like 15.10 to get a newer synaptic driver?
[11:42] <hateball> vooze: does reloading psmouse work, or do you have to restart unity?
[11:44] <vooze> hateball, just testet, have to reload unity
[11:45] <vooze> hateball, oh wait, now it works after reloading psmouse
[11:47] <hateball> vooze: you could make some (ugly) workaround that reloads it on resume
[11:47] <Sonu> Failed to connect to port 80: Connection timed out
[11:47] <Sonu> when using curl
[11:48] <vooze> hateball, its just weird, because I remember it worked in 15.04 and 15.10
[11:48] <vooze> and 14.04.3 should be like 15.04 right? The same kernel etc.
[11:49] <hateball> vooze: no, 3.13 vs 3.19
[11:50] <vooze> hateball, but I have 3.19. (14.04.3
[11:50] <KrysTaLiZed> guys I have a friend who want to contribute in Masters of the Universe section, how shall he start?
[11:50] <reisio> KrysTaLiZed: what? :p
[11:50] <KrysTaLiZed> he wants to become a MOTU someday
[11:50] <iceCalt> He shall sacrifice his children for.
[11:50] <KrysTaLiZed> lol
[11:50] <hateball> vooze: yep, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kernel/LTSEnablementStack
[11:51] <derock299> hello please can somebody help me with a precise and detail solution to my problem? i upgraded from 15.04 to 15.10 on one of my partitions, it asked for a reboot to complete installtion, during the reboot i got error that failed to start load kernel modules, then it says check systemct1 and load FUSE control, it continues to ok other checks and finally it hanged completely( freezes). I have tried recovery mode and did mount -o remount,rw/ but still no
[11:51] <derock299> luck
[11:51] <KrysTaLiZed> no offttopic here iceCalt btw
[11:51] <hateball> vooze: the default kernel is 3.13 tho
[11:51] <SemiNus> hi
[11:51] <vooze> hateball, I have that, thats why I'm on 3.19
[11:51] <derock299> I have tried sudo update-grub after changing the grub file to nomodeset but i got error too
[11:51] <hateball> vooze: Yep
[11:52] <DJones> !motu | KrysTaLiZed There might be something linked from here,
[11:52] <capio> Hey. i installed Ubuntu. i have two monitors. but when i move my mouse with slow velocity to another monitor it gets stuck in the middle. i have to move it with some speed.
[11:52] <derock299> please can somebody help me, all I need are my important files in the other partition, its urgent please help
[11:52] <KrysTaLiZed> oh thanks DJones
[11:52] <SemiNus> I wondered how I could recursively compare a directory on a webserver with a local directory. If both were local, I would use diff -rq but in this case... is it possible to somehow use md5 sum to check the files and then check against the md5 sums locally?
[11:52] <hateball> vooze: I wouldnt suggest downgrading kernel, rather upgrade to a later in that case. or just make a script to reload psmouse on resume
[11:52] <DJones> capio: Sounds like stick edges is set to be on, I think its in the display settings and needs turning off
[11:53] <DJones> capio: Settings - Display - Sticky Edges - On/Off
[11:53] <vooze> hateball, can I use 4.2 like in 15.10 ? I see for Server it says sudo apt-get install --install-recommends linux-generic-lts-wily. But not sure how that would work on laptop
[11:54] <derock299> I have tried sudo update-grub after changing the grub file to nomodeset but i got error too
[11:54] <hateball> vooze: It is the same
[11:54] <derock299> hello please can somebody help me with a precise and detail solution to my problem? i upgraded from 15.04 to 15.10 on one of my partitions, it asked for a reboot to complete installtion, during the reboot i got error that failed to start load kernel modules, then it says check systemct1 and load FUSE control, it continues to ok other checks and finally it hanged completely( freezes). I have tried recovery mode and did mount -o remount,rw/ but still no
[11:54] <derock299> luck
[11:55] <SpuxBow> hi
[11:55] <hateball> vooze: You'll still be able to pick a kernel in grub menu on boot
[11:55] <capio> DJones, yep that solved it. thanks
[11:57] <capio> Another question. i need to install django version 1.8 but its not in the servers. How do i go about and install it?
[11:57] <vooze> hateball, okay, testing 15.10 kernel now :)
[11:57] <vooze> thanks for your help
[11:58] <derock299> or if nobody knows the solution, please can somebody tell me how to view the files in my other partition , both partitions are ubuntu, one of the partitions is working
[11:59] <derock299> so how do u view the files in the other partition please
[12:00] <reisio> derock299: two Ubuntu installs?
[12:00] <taavi90> Hello, what is the name of the package that is the application finder..located in top of the left menu icon
[12:01] <derock299> i have two ubuntu (14.10 and 15,04) on the same pc, they are all working fine
[12:01] <reisio> dash?
[12:01] <reisio> derock299: does it not show on the left in file manager?
[12:01] <derock299> i did an upgrade on 15.04 to 15.0 , then during reboot i got error that it failed to load kernel
[12:02] <taavi90> reisio : was that a response to me...?
[12:02] <derock299> it continued to hang completely, now from the second partition i can see my other drive and some files but i cannot access the content of my home folder
[12:02] <reisio> taavi90: yup
[12:03] <derock299> if i log into the second partition, i can see the other partition on the left @reisio
[12:03] <reisio> derock299: what?
[12:03] <derock299> i can access the second partition too and some of its files, but the home folder is not showing all the files
[12:03] <taavi90> reisio : i dont find it under /usr/share/applications
[12:04] <cfhowlett> derock299, did you encrypt things??
[12:04] <noelia> Hello again
[12:04] <derock299> no ecryption just my login passwords
[12:04] <Capprentice> ?
[12:04] <derock299> the problem here is i cannot boot the other partition since upgrading to 15.10
[12:04] <derock299> it hangs completely
[12:05] <derock299> i did mount -o remount,rw/ but it doesnt work
[12:05] <KrysTaLiZed> !motu |iceCalt
[12:05] <noelia> How can I find out what ppa's I have installed?
[12:05] <derock299> i tried sudo apt-get remove --purge fglxr* but got errors
[12:05] <noelia> I need to uninstall them with ppa-purge but I don't know their names
[12:06] <derock299> please I need help guys
[12:06] <guest2225> No matter what screencast software I try, Kazam, recordmydesktop, avconv, ffmpeg, vlc, vokoscreen, and no matter what settings I fiddle with, high fps, or compression/no compression, avi/mp4/mkv, the video is always appearing choppy
[12:06] <guest2225> does anyone know why?
[12:07] <guest2225> I am using Ubuntu 14.04
[12:07] <guest2225> thanks
[12:08] <cfhowlett> guest2225, ONLY on self recorded video? other video plays OK?
[12:08] <hateball> noelia: several ways, quick and dirty "cat /etc/apt/sources.list.d/*"
[12:08] <guest2225> indeed, all the other videos play fine
[12:08] <hateball> noelia: you may want to add some grep magic to that to get what you need
[12:08] <guest2225> it is only when I am trying to record something on the desktop, does this happen
[12:09] <guest2225> I am trying to record an animation that is generated by a program and that does not have the ability to save the animation
[12:10] <guest2225> It is then that the choppiness is observed in the quality
[12:10] <cfhowlett> guest2225, what program cannot save it's own output?
[12:10] <cfhowlett> *its*
[12:10] <guest2225> This is the gloss library of haskell
[12:10] <noelia> hateball Thank you, this is what I get: deb-src http://ppa.launchpad.net/thopiekar/miraclecast/ubuntu vivid main
[12:11] <noelia> hateball However, there are more .list files in /etc/apt/sources.list.d
[12:11] <cfhowlett> guest2225, so it outputs a video? pipe it to vlc and save it from there?
[12:11] <guest2225> when i run the program it produces a window in which the animation occurs
[12:11] <guest2225> but let met try piping
[12:12] <cfhowlett> guest2225, what player displays the video?
[12:12] <derock299> ALl i want is to bring my sytem back to working condition
[12:12] <hateball> noelia: files that are not empty? because it should just spit out line after line
[12:12] <derock299> it hangs completely during start up
[12:13] <cfhowlett> guest2225, perhaps ask the #haskell channel. I suspect there's a way to capture/save that video without invoking another app.
[12:13] <guest2225> I am not surre that it uses an external player...it seeems that it generates its own window which can display that
[12:13] <cfhowlett> #haskell
[12:13] <guest2225> cfhowlett, indeed that question has been asked on haskell
[12:13] <guest2225> and apparently there is currently no way to save the genrated video
[12:14] <cfhowlett> guest2225, so an app that produces a video without save functionality ... d'oh!
[12:14] <guest2225> seems like it! I was surprised too
[12:15] <noelia> hateball This is the output of "ls" -----> http://pastebin.com/f1nRppx8
[12:15] <guest2225> Maybe I misunderstood something or stumbled upon incorrect information, but i searched a lot and I gather that it is not possible
[12:15] <noelia> I mean ls /etc/apt/sources.list.d
[12:16] <guest2225> piping into vlc does not work
[12:16] <derock299> could the issue be from my vbox
[12:16] <noelia> hateball these files are empty
[12:16] <guest2225> anyway, i wonder why my screencasts are coming choppy no matter what i do...
[12:16] <guest2225> My laptop is fairly fast
[12:17] <cfhowlett> guest2225, could be you're maxing your gpu's ram
[12:18] <guest2225> cfhowlett, I keep a track of the RAM using conky, and that seems to be fune
[12:18] <guest2225> *fine
[12:18] <cfhowlett> guest2225, I'm officially out of wild a* guesses then.
[12:19] <guest2225> cfhowlett, no problem! Thanks for trying!
[12:20] <derock299> it continued to hang completely, now from the second partition i can see my other drive and some files but i cannot access the content of my home folder
[12:20] <hateball> guest2225: seems you've tried a fair few programs already, but I found https://obsproject.com/download#linux to work well for me
[12:21] <derock299> i did an upgrade on 15.04 to 15.0 , then during reboot i got error that it failed to load kernel
[12:21] <derock299> please I need help guys
[12:24] <fabio_> Hello everyone
[12:25] <fabio_> Can somenone help me? I want to customize the ubuntu logo on boot
[12:25] <fabio_> where is located?
[12:26] <fabio_> i think is on lib something
[12:26] <derock299> hello please can somebody help me with a precise and detail solution to my problem? i upgraded from 15.04 to 15.10 on one of my partitions, it asked for a reboot to complete installtion, during the reboot i got error that failed to start load kernel modules, then it says check systemct1 and load FUSE control, it continues to ok other checks and finally it hanged completely( freezes). I have tried recovery mode and did mount -o remount,rw/ but still no
[12:27] <derock299> please can anybody help
[12:27] <noelia> hateball I previously removed the ppa lines with Ubuntu Software Centre
[12:28] <noelia> hateball Now I can't remove the ppa's, I thought removing the lines in Ubuntu Software Centre did the job.
[12:29] <hateball> noelia: have you added them all by using apt-add-repository, or have you manually entered some into /etc/apt/sources.list perhaps?
[12:30] <noelia> hateball I think I entered some of them into /etc/apt/sources.list
[12:30] <noelia> hateball I don't remember
[12:30] <hateball> noelia: well, have a look then :)
[12:31] <noelia> hateball I remember now, I added them in /etc/apt/sources.list, then I erased those lines
[12:32] <noelia> hateball I thought that was enough to erase the ppa's
[12:32] <rato_alado> Boot Logo -> /lib/plymouth/themes or create /usr/share/plymouth/themes
[12:34] <bdonnahue> hello. im tyring to run this command
[12:34] <bdonnahue> gpg --keyserver keys.gnupg.net --recv-key 62B4981F
[12:34] <bdonnahue> but im getting a timeout
[12:34] <bdonnahue> can anyone help
[12:43] <sidnei> hi members!
[12:43] <reisio> ohai
[12:44] <sidnei> someware Brazilian?
[12:45] <derock299> hello please can somebody help me with a precise and detail solution to my problem? i upgraded from 15.04 to 15.10 on one of my partitions, it asked for a reboot to complete installtion, during the reboot i got error that failed to start load kernel modules, then it says check systemct1 and load FUSE control, it continues to ok other checks and finally it hanged completely( freezes). I have tried recovery mode and did mount -o remount,rw/ but still no
[12:53] <derock299> it seems nobody can help me
[12:53] <derock299> thanks
[12:53] <derock299> bye
[12:53] <mac33> hi to everyone
[12:55] <mac33> where can I find (as I'd like to save) streaming flash video from website in ubuntu 15.40. It seems the new flash-plugin has just change the path where I before found the mp4
[12:56] <cfhowlett> videodownloader plugin for firefox is easier
[12:56] <sebastianlutter> how can I check if dependencies of an shared object file are fulfilled on my current ubuntu box? I know ldd and objdump, is there a tool available that follows the link tree in depth?
[12:57] <mekdouglas> flashgot extension for firefox is good too!
[12:57] <mac33> does it work with jw flash plug-in?
[12:59] <mac33> ok...when I'm looking for flash add-on I get a very long list of it
[13:01] <mac33> thank you to all
[13:09] <Knight80> Hello
[13:10] <BluesKaj> Howdy all
[13:11] <snaik> hi
[13:11] <Knight80> Is it possible to install an ubuntu package designed for wily in Ubuntu 14.04?
[13:12] <Knight80> I need to install Ardour 4, which has more functionalities than Ardour 3, but 14.04 doesn't have Ardour 4 package
[13:12] <cfhowlett> inadviseable. backports are better.
[13:12] <cfhowlett> failing that: install from sourcce
[13:13] <cookie80> Knight80: maybe it´s easier to install wily on a seperate partition
[13:14] <vooze> hateball, so even after upgrading kernel the problem was still there, but I found a script and modified it from askubuntu :) now it works
[13:17] <hateball> vooze: oh well :)
[13:20] <Knight80> The thing is everybody suggests me not to install ppa's, why is that?
[13:20] <cfhowlett> !ppa | Knight80
[13:20] <Knight80> ok
[13:22] <Horo_horo> Hey
[13:22] <vooze> Knight80, to be honest we all use PPAs (probably) just don't add PPA you dont know what are. Well known PPAs are probably fine :)
[13:24] <Ben64> yeah, if its a ppa that adds say... the newest version of mythtv, it's probably fine. if you add a ppa that updates libc, you might break your system
[13:24] <cfhowlett> vooze, only 1 and only because I was too impatient to wait for 16.04 http://paste.ubuntu.com/13329817/
[13:26] <vooze> cfhowlett, if the PPA just holds one application its not big deal. The problem is if the PPA have maybe 20 apps, and you just want to upgrade one.. and then maybe it will make others unstable.. Or even pull some bad system packages/libs
[13:26] <Knight80> vooze Thank you, I just need to install Ardour 4, which has more functionalities than Ardour 3, that's why I'm going to need to use a PPA
[13:26] <vooze> Knight80, google the app, you should get a link with all the packages inside the PPA :)
[13:26] <vooze> see if it seems okay
[13:26] <Ben64> i have a bunch -- solaar (for logitech wireless mouse), deluge, freecad, dolphin-emu, mpv, minetest, mythtv, firefox pepperflash, android studio, wine
[13:26] <vooze> google the PPA *
[13:27] <Ben64> oh and google-chrome
[13:27] <vooze> Yeah I probably have like 10 PPAs, no big deal :)
[13:27] <vooze> like libreoffice5 etc.
[13:28] <cfhowlett> Knight80, virtualbox + wiley = ardour4
[13:29] <Knight80> Thank you
[13:30] <Knight80> So, you don't recommend me to download Ardour 4 from packages.ubuntu.com and install it on Ubuntu Trusty (14.04)
[13:30] <Knight80> right?
[13:31] <cfhowlett> Knight80, download directly from ardour.org and install.
[13:31] <Knight80> cfhowlett There's no Ubuntu package there
[13:31] <cfhowlett> there is a linux package
[13:32] <Knight80> cfhowlett Source code
[13:32] <cfhowlett> I believe so
[13:33] <librercreation> yo
[13:33] <librercreation> hi !!
[13:34] <cfhowlett> librercreation, this is ubuntu support. chitchat in #ubuntu-offtopic.
[13:36] <saretta> ciao
[13:36] <Knight80> I asked you this because someone told me once that installing Kxstudio (which contains Ardour 4) over Ubuntu 14.04 was not advisable
[13:36] <saretta> !list
[13:38] <Knight80> And another question: What's the best desktop environment in your opinion? I use xfce...
[13:39] <vooze> Knight80, just use a PPA, dont be so scared :)
[13:39] <vooze> http://ubuntuhandbook.org/index.php/2015/05/how-to-install-ardour-4-in-ubuntu-14-04/
[13:39] <rk443> galera
[13:39] <vooze> worst thing that can happen is you can purge the PPA
[13:39] <Knight80> vooze Thank you very much :)
[13:40] <vooze> you are welcome :)
[13:41] <vooze> In my view, part of the Linux experience, is to mess around with stuff
[13:41] <Knight80> vooze I agree with you
[13:41] <cfhowlett> Knight80, "best" = then one that works for you! fwiw: ubuntustudio uses XFCE4
[13:42] <caeve> hello everyone, does gpt (GUID) partition table have any drawbacks with existing file systems or OSes? I never used it, and apparently it is preferrable to MBR
[13:42] <cfhowlett> caeve, are you dualbooting?
[13:43] <caeve> cfhowlett, I have more than one systems on my machine, if I understand your question right
[13:43] <caeve> system*
[13:43] <root3> Hey
[13:43] <root3> Hey
[13:43] <cfhowlett> caeve, IF you system is GPT capable, i.e. newish, should be no problem
[13:44] <caeve> cfhowlett, if 14.04.3 is newish enough, yes :)
[13:44] <cfhowlett> caeve, the MACHINE not the OS :)
[13:45] <caeve> cfhowlett, oh :) no, it is not the newest.
[13:45] <cfhowlett> 2014 or later is probably running on GPT: sudo gdisk -l will tell you
[13:45] <caeve> cfhowlett, how old may the machine be to be compatible?
[13:46] <caeve> cfhowlett, oh, sorry, saw your answer
[13:46] <cfhowlett> caeve, sudo fdisk -l will tell yoiu
[13:47] <caeve> cfhowlett, I cannot find a gpt-related entry in the output
[13:48] <cfhowlett> caeve, then you are on mbr
[13:48] <caeve> cfhowlett, yes, I'd created my HDD partitions with MBR.
[13:48] <cfhowlett> caeve, you can still dualboot with mbr.
[13:49] <caeve> cfhowlett, my question on gpt relates to external drives. I will not need to boot with it
[13:50] <cfhowlett> caeve, grrr! little details like that do matter! :)
[13:50] <cfhowlett> so you want a mbr to boot and a gpt for external storage. doable
[13:50] <caeve> cfhowlett..sorry!
[13:51] <cfhowlett> but you might need to do so exotic configuring to make that fly. over my head, but I'd guess a luks type setup. ask the #ubuntu-server for more expert guidance.
[13:51] <kappa1> http://askubuntu.com/questions/641031/does-ubuntu-store-passwords-from-failed-login-attempts - is it possible to save passwords from failed logins?
[13:51] <caeve> cfhowlett, how does encryption relate to compatibility? :)
[13:52] <cfhowlett> it adds a layer of complexity. again: server channel has more of those types of set-ups. we mostly do desktop stuff here.
[13:54] <caeve> cfhowlett, I will go there and ask..thank you very much for your help!
[13:54] <cfhowlett> best of luck!
[13:54] <caeve> thank you :)
[13:55] <arch> /lib/firmware << is OK to add firmware directly in to this folder and have it work??!
[13:55] <dupingping> hi, robert_ancell:
[13:55] <cfhowlett> arch, install via the command line. adding software to random folders cannot end well.
[13:56] <TJ-> caeve: Most BIOS of the last 10 years can read GPT as well as MBR, and UEFI systesm *must* be able to read both.
[13:57] <_ACID_> Hey
[13:57] <arch> cfhowlett, with what via command line web for me?
[13:57] <caeve> TJ- I havent heard of the last one, but my machine is sure younger than 10 years.
[13:59] <arch> cfhowlett, going to web thanks for your help :~)
[14:01] <Daleus> Hi guys, nouveau is broken for tri-monitor on Ubuntu 15.10 (fresh install), however works out of the box on 15.04 - does anyone know the name of the package or packages to pin for nouveau so that tri-monitor works after 15.10 upgrade?
[14:02] <caeve> cfhowlett, TJ- if the output of 'sudo dmidecode -s bios-release-date' means the manufacture date, then it also confirms that the machine is young enough.
[14:03] <TJ-> caeve: its easy to test it; put a basic GRUB install on a GPT USB flash drive and see if GRUB loads
[14:03] <TJ-> caeve: if the BIOS cannot read the GPT it'll report no boot device
[14:03] <vooze> I just made this short guide, how do I make it solved? http://askubuntu.com/questions/699615/how-to-setup-intel-rapid-start
[14:03] <caeve> TJ- sure, I can try that
[14:04] <tsousa> how can i install django version 1.8 when i have version 1.6 in my desktop?
[14:09] <somsip> tsousa: use virtualenv.
[14:15] <Pici> somsip: thanks for suggesting a virtualenv, its nice to see sane python suggestions in here :)
[14:16] <somsip> Pici: in my limited python experience, I did learn that virtualenv saves a lot of headaches.
[14:16] <tsousa> Pici, why is that? people suck at python here?
[14:16] <Pici> tsousa: If you aren't sure how to use a virtualenv, we can give you a hand in setting it up in #python :)
[14:16] <somsip> tsousa: well, it's a bit offtopic really. Go where Pici recommends
[14:17] <Pici> tsousa: no, just that Python best practices are not known to people just familiar with Linux/Ubuntu
[14:18] <reisio> lot of python best practices are just culty nonsense :)
[14:18] <reisio> also, s/python/foo/
[14:23] <Daleus> nouveau is broken for tri-monitor on Ubuntu 15.10 (fresh install), however works out of the box on 15.04 - does anyone know the name of the package or packages to pin for nouveau so that tri-monitor works after 15.10 upgrade?
[14:26] <Horo_horo> What's is this channel talks about?
[14:26] <hateball> !support | Horo_horo
[14:26] <Pici> Horo_horo: This is the official support channel for Ubuntu. We have a non-support chat channel at #ubuntu-offtopic
[14:27] <Horo_horo> ubuntu OS?
[14:28] <Daleus> Horo_horo, Yes, Ubuntu OS.
[14:28] <niknak23> Hi, can anyone suggest a handy applet for google calendar? Many thanks
[14:30] <Horo_horo> Ubuntu Server is good?
[14:30] <zack_> have been running ubuntu server for some times now.
[14:30] <zack_> never failed
[14:30] <Horo_horo> better than debian?
[14:30] <reisio> Horo_horo: quite impossible
[14:31] <zack_> well, i've never used pure debian
[14:31] <zack_> btw, ubuntu is already debian based
[14:31] <hateball> !ot
[14:31] <i_> whois
[14:31] <zack_> what you're asking is basically the same i think
[14:32] <Horo_horo> I'm gonna try Ubuntu server!
[14:32] <Daleus> Debian is awesome. Ubuntu server until this newest release has been my favourite - but 'There was an error type journtalctl -xe to view' haunts my dreams..
[14:32] <zack_> you should. use LTS, longer support
[14:33] <Horo_horo> Thanks zack_
[14:33] <zack_> can you elaborate on that error? never seen before
[14:33] <Horo_horo> are you talking to mee?
[14:34] <zack_> no, was talking @ Daleus, curious about the error type
[14:34] <Daleus> Basically, whenever a service or daemon has an error instead of leaving normal logs, or showing errors it bundles them away in journalctl (fucking systemd)
[14:34] <niknak23> can anyone tell me how to find a channel list? Thanks
[14:35] <Daleus> I'm not used to it and cannot see the advantage to it at all. Doesn't even work properly in a tmux session either cuts off half of the error.
[14:36] <zack_> i see. I just have a ubuntu vps. Never had been to the point to look back at the logs and pin point problems.
[14:37] <zack_> i'm familiar with screen, is tmux better?
[14:37] <reisio> tmux is newer
[14:37] <Daleus> zack_, Well, that's all personal choice - I prefer tmux for window splitting
[14:37] <reisio> most people only use a tiny fraction of screen's features, though
[14:38] <zack_> screen is quite buggy when using full screen stuff like nano or vi for that matter
[14:38] <zack_> the cursor just keep jumping lines
[14:38] <zack_> had to do a reset
[14:38] <zack_> does tmux have that kind of problem?
[14:39] <reisio> nope, screen isn't buggy
[14:39] <reisio> but you can try tmux and compare on your own
[14:39] <zack_> the idea of learning a new set of keyboard commands taunts me.
[14:39] <zack_> i meant shortcuts
[14:39] <Daleus> zack_, you can set it to the same key bindings as screen
[14:40] <Daleus> however, for general stuff (close window, open window whatever else) just remember that it's ctrl +b 'a'
[14:40] <Daleus> instead of ctrl + a 'a'
[14:41] <Horo_horo> How can I create a channel?
[14:41] <zack_> have you guys ever tried hosting irc service on a linux vps?
[14:41] <maj_jay> hey anybody know a good C++ game development program like Unity for linux?
[14:41] <Daleus> Horo_horo, '/join #yourchannel'
[14:41] <hateball> maj_jay: Unity is available on Linux
[14:42] <zack_> i tried some, but couldn't get it to work. the Identd is messing up everything
[14:42] <maj_jay> oh really? i thought it was windows only. is it through wine?
[14:42] <Daleus> zack_, be careful with that lots of VPS providers state in their T&C that IRC servers aren't allowed and some even take steps to stop you creating one.
[14:42] <hateball> !who | maj_jay
[14:42] <BluesKaj> Horo_horo, ask in #freenode
[14:42] <ganymede> Hello. Has anyone got a dual boot Ubuntu/MacOS running with encryption?
[14:42] <hateball> maj_jay: http://blogs.unity3d.com/2015/08/26/unity-comes-to-linux-experimental-build-now-available/
[14:43] <reisio> ganymede: probably someone
[14:43] <zack_> @Daleus thanks, i'll take a look at their TOS
[14:43] <maj_jay> hateball: cool thanks \m/!
[14:43] <Tashtari> Hey all. Curiosity, I noticed that my kernel was listed as "tainted" in a logging message, I looked into it, and all the flags seemed to be about kernel modules (non-GPL, out-of-tree, and unsigned)... is there an easy way to tell what kernel modules are considered tainted so I can decide whether it's a problem?
[14:43] <ganymede> reisio: I am having trouble dual booting with full disk (well, full partition) encryption
[14:44] <reisio> ganymede: bummer
[14:45] <mekhami> hm
[14:45] <zack_> reisio: i've never booted with encryption before though. sounds interesting
[14:46] <Guest46665> hi, my mouse cursor is invisible after installing kernel 4.3 (ubuntu 15.04). after logging in a crash report "virtualbox-dkms 4.3.26-dfsg-2ubuntu2: virtualbox kernel module failed to build" appears. can u help me pls
[14:46] <Daleus> Guest46665, Is this with a Windows guest?
[14:46] <reisio> L0: it's a nice way to encrypt things
[14:46] <Guest46665> my ubuntu host system has the problem
[14:47] <Guest46665> virtualbox is installed
[14:47] <L0> reisio: tell me how you did it.
[14:47] <L0> Guest46665: the best option is to reinstall virtualbox so it compiles virtualbox kernels again
[14:48] <ganymede> i find full disk encrpytion and dual booting is a pain. There'a guide for windows/ubuntu but apparently not for mac
[14:48] <L0> it's a pain to dual boot anything with mac
[14:48] <akik> Tashtari: you can list the module's license with "modinfo -l module"
[14:48] <Guest46665> L0, ok. I will try this...
[14:49] <ganymede> L0: I must just remove mac os entirely.
[14:49] <akik> Tashtari: this page lists reason why you could get the tainted message http://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/118116/linux-what-is-a-tainted-kernel
[14:49] <reisio> L0: I just use encfs for non-full-disk
[14:50] <ganymede> encfs isn't secure though :(
[14:50] <L0> reisio: i thought that was wasn't secure
[14:50] <L0> reisio: the installation process even stated that
[14:51] <Daleus> ganymede, Perhaps it might be easier to leave off full disk encryption and just encrypt your home folder? I have tried this before and the only way to make it work (imo) is to have ubuntu on a seperate hard disk - reFind on OSX can boot from it still
[14:51] <L0> back in the days when i used home folder encryption, i went to the source folder and thought it was just consuming disk space and deleted them LOL
[14:51] <reisio> encfs is secure
[14:52] <ganymede> Daleus: I have considered that, but the OS leaks data, for example in temp files. Still, it's a valid suggestion.
[14:52] <L0> reisio: https://defuse.ca/audits/encfs.htm
[14:53] <reisio> L0: I've read it, and you have not
[14:53] <L0> the result of the audit says it wasn't isn't it?
[14:53] <lolzaux> exit
[14:53] <reisio> L0: you're asking because you haven't read it
[14:53] <L0> reisio: it's true i have not, i've only seen the warning
[14:53] <Daleus> ganymede, place /tmp/ within /home (joking!)
[14:53] <mekhami> how can i debug DNS issues? I have perfect connection sto some things and no connections from others, but i have no idea how to go about debugging that
[14:53] <reisio> L0: while you're letting other people convince you of imaginary things, you owe me $50
[14:54] <Daleus> mekhami, try 'nslookup' and 'dig' tools
[14:54] <mekhami> i tried to add google's nameservers to my dns settings yesterday but it seems it didn't work
[14:54] <Daleus> mekhami, example to check 'yahoo.co.jp' against google's dns server: nslookup yahoo.co.jp 8.8.8.8 - have fun!
[14:55] <L0> reisio: if i remember correctly i saw that warning from the installation package
[14:55] <L0> while installing
[14:55] <mekhami> Daleus: how exactly do i do that?
[14:55] <reisio> L0: a hundred people warning about something they haven't read is just as useless as a one
[14:56] <Daleus> mekhami, take a look at the last message
[14:56] <mekhami> Daleus: ah sorry my eyes missed that one
[14:56] <mekhami> Daleus: yeah this hangs on that, connection timed out
[14:56] <reisio> s/a o/ o/
[14:56] <L0> reisio: true, i couldn't really understand it since no background in cryptography and suck at math
[14:57] <caeve> hello again, I cannot find any encryption option in gparted. I wonder if there isnt any, or am I not seeing it?
[14:57] <Daleus> mekhami, can you ping 8.8.8.8 (example?)
[14:57] <zaggi> well well well
[14:57] <mekhami> Network is unreachable
[14:57] <mekhami> yet here I am =P
[14:57] <ganymede> L0: reisio, that paper seems quite damning. it says encfs is "probably" safe if you don't get to see 2 different snapshots of the same file. but since encfs doesnt hide the dir structure and date stamps it seems easy to find a file and its backup file
[14:58] <Daleus> mekhami, That sounds....wrong
[14:59] <L0> is it the same thing ubuntu used to encrypt home directory?
[14:59] <Daleus> mekhami, if you're using dhcp you can always try "sudo dhclient eth0" where eth0 is your network device - might reset some of the dodgy values for you!
[14:59] <artisanIndia> I have two arrays ['0' => '5', '1' => '10', '2' => 14] and ['5' => 'firstIndex', '10' => 'secondIndex', '14' => 'lastIndex']; I want to compare them index to value and pluck the odd one out as happens in array_diff
[15:00] <luv_> hola hermanos
[15:00] <Pici> artisanIndia: hi, this is #ubuntu, I think you're probably looking for another channel.
[15:00] <maksud> hello
[15:00] <artisanIndia> oops
[15:00] <artisanIndia> sorry
[15:00] <artisanIndia> my bad
[15:00] <maksud> anybody can help me
[15:00] <Pici> maksud: you need to ask a real question first.
[15:00] <reisio> ganymede: 'seems'? :p
[15:00] <luv_> pueden ayudarme?
[15:01] <lotuspsychje> !es | luv_
[15:01] <maksud> ya sure, @Pici, how can use vpn & use facebook, cause some reason, in our country right now facebook off from our government, so now how can i use facebook by using vpn connection?
[15:01] <mekhami> Daleus: 'Cannot find device 'eth0''
[15:02] <mekhami> so something is pretty messed up here hah
[15:02] <zaggi> e
[15:02] <Daleus> mekhami - yes 'where eth0 is your network device'
[15:02] <L0> mekhami: try 'ifconfig' see if you can list your network card/device
[15:03] <Pici> maksud: I'm afraid I don't know much about settin up vpns, perhaps someone else here can point you in the right direction.
[15:03] <mekhami> L0: my ethernet connection seems to be called 'enp2s0'
[15:03] <mekhami> Daleus eth0 should be my network device
[15:03] <mekhami> it was in the past anyway.
[15:03] <mekhami> is this one of those situations where maybe i should just reboot and see what happens, hah
[15:04] <L0> mekhami: try it with your ethernet card name, whatever command you've failed just now
[15:04] <alias__> what should I do to have landscape report debian updates? We managed our ubuntu nodes with landscape but we also have several debian nodes where we'd like to do the same. Any ideas?
[15:04] <L0> maksud: try using openvpn there are many free openvpn servers to use
[15:04] <mekhami> RTNETLINK answers: File exists
[15:05] <zaggi> exit
[15:05] <Daleus> zaggynl, this is not a terminal :)
[15:05] <zaggynl> Daleus: highlight revenge!
[15:05] <mekhami> Daleus: it is for me! =P
[15:06] <L0> mekhami: what was the command again?
[15:06] <mekhami> Daleus: this is what happened with dhclient enp2s0: RTNETLINK answers: File exists
[15:06] <Daleus> zaggynl, haha - the dude quit before I messaged him and my tabbing isn't fast enough
[15:06] <mekhami> L0 sudo dhclient enp2s0
[15:06] <Daleus> mekhami, I'm not even sure what type of connection that is...
[15:06] <mekhami> me either.
[15:06] <L0> mekhami: have you tried disabling your ethernet and enabling again?
[15:06] <mekhami> it should just be a normal ethernet
[15:07] <Daleus> mekhami, L0, - Perhaps a reboot would take care of this? worst case scenario it allows mekhami to setup his connection again... to his preference.
[15:07] <kk_drop> is there any way to call openvpn and add proxy after it connect to vpn network?
[15:07] <L0> mekhami: like ifconfig card_name down; ifconfig card_name up
[15:08] <L0> kk_drop: you can set proxy from browser as well, so yes.
[15:08] <L0> kk_drop: try the program called proxychains
[15:11] <Guest15652> well
[15:11] <mekhami_> alright L0 Daleus i killed processes for network manager and dnsmasq (and uninstalled dnsmasq) and i seem to be back to 'normal'
[15:11] <devsys> Hi all, I'm trying to resolve a slow dns issue, when I time my curl command, it takes 5 seconds. On another server set with identical nameservers in resolv.conf and on the same network as the first machine, it takes .2 seconds. Any ideas what I can look at? Thanks!
[15:11] <L0> mekhami_: oh right, should have asked you to restart network manager first
[15:12] <mekhami_> now how do i actually change my dns servers
[15:12] <L0> mekhami_: it could be done with 'sudo service network-manager restart'
[15:12] <mekhami_> L0: i tried that several tiems before and it didn't work, so i just killed the process heh
[15:13] <L0> mekhami_: i see. i've never changed dns server on linux though.
[15:13] <BluesKaj> mekhami_, if you're on 15.10 then its sudo systemctl restart network-manager
[15:13] <L0> mekhami_: oh, /etc/resolv.conf
[15:15] <devsys> service avahi-daemon status
[15:15] <devsys> dammit
[15:15] <Tashtari> Hey all. Curiosity, I noticed that my kernel was listed as "tainted" in a logging message, I looked into it, and all the flags seemed to be about kernel modules (non-GPL, out-of-tree, and unsigned)... is there an easy way to tell what kernel modules are considered tainted so I can decide whether it's a problem?
[15:16] <badbodh> i guess proprietary drivers. g-card, wifi etc
[15:16] <reisio> Tashtari: lsmod
[15:16] <reisio> if they were a problem, your distro wouldn't provide them
[15:16] <badbodh> for absolutely un-tainted ubuntu, use trisquel :D
[15:17] <akik> Tashtari: did you test "modinfo -l module" ?
[15:17] <reisio> you can use any kernel with any distro
[15:17] <reisio> not something you change distro over, entirely pointless
[15:17] <ich_> I have an usb flash drive which isn't recognized by my system (ubuntu 15.04) http://pastebin.com/RSSpkQ1W. I don't know if the usb stick is unfixable. can u help me?
[15:18] <reisio> ich_: https://www.google.com/search?q=%221f75%3A0917%22
[15:18] <kappa1> how can I see to where the shortcuts that are in /usr/bin point to?
[15:19] <reisio> kappa1: readlink /usr/bin/foo
[15:19] <kappa1> thanks!
[15:19] <reisio> kappa1: or ls -al
[15:23] <L0> ich_: that log seems fine to me. why it is not detected?
[15:27] <ich_> L0, I don't see it in the file manager or with gparted or lsblk after plugging it in. I think I will try this: https://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/97785/usb-media-filesystem-problem
[15:32] <Daleus> #ubuntu - nouveau doesn't work on 15.10 triple monitor but works on 15.04 without any issues - so I held libdrm-nouveau2 and xserver-xorg-video-nouveau and upgraded to 15.10 - not only does trip monitor still not work but now I have graphical glitches - am I stuck on 15.04 forever?
[15:42] <triss> hey all. I've just done a dist upgrade 15.04 -> 15.10
[15:44] <triss> but it blows up half way through
[15:44] <triss> it can't find dependancies for these packages: http://pastie.org/10565323
[15:44] <triss> can anyone recommend a way to fix this?
[15:44] <triss> I'm scared to reboot with a half finished dist-upgrade
[15:45] <triss> I'm happy to uninstall all kubuntu based stuff(I don't use it) if this will ease process but can't work out how to do it
[15:45] <auronandace> !dist-upgrade | triss
[15:46] <triss> oh. wasn't aware of that. thanks.
[15:47] <triss> unfortnately i still have same issue when attempting upgrade
[15:48] <devsys> Hi all, I am trying to track down a dns resolution issue. I'm getting slow responses on Ubuntu Server 14.05. if I do a "time curl domain.com" or "time wget domain.com" it takes over 5 seconds. On another machine, with the same nameservers in resolv.conf it takes less than a half of a second. I tried disabling IPv6, didn't help. Any ideas what else I can check
[15:48] <triss> sudo apt-get -f upgrade gives different error:
[15:49] <triss> http://pastie.org/10565342
[15:51] <dan-k> My wifi doesnt work properly, there are instructions on the ubuntu website on how to make my network card work but I dont understand how to do it, could anyone help? " rtl8723be
[15:51] <dan-k>
[15:51] <dan-k> Yes with Modprobe Options
[15:51] <dan-k>
[15:51] <dan-k> Ubuntu 15.04 - Requires "options rtl8723be msi=1 ips=0" in /etc/modprobe.d/rtl8723be.conf file on some boxes (HP455G2) "
[15:51] <dan-k> there is no 'etc/modprobe.d/rtl8723be.conf' file
[15:52] <auronandace> dan-k: try creating it
[15:52] <dan-k> I tried in the file browser but permission denied, I'm new to linux so I dont know how to do it in the terminal
[15:53] <dan-k> auronandace could you explain like im 5? lol
[15:54] <auronandace> dan-k: sudo nano /etc/modprobe.d/rtl8723be.conf
[15:54] <auronandace> distrodan see above
[15:54] <simon^^> Hi! I am using sbuild to cross compile a suite of dpkg packages for ARM. The some packages depend on other packages to be built and installed. How is this generally handled?
[15:55] <distrodan> thanks auronandace I'm now looking at a GNU nano screen in terminal
[15:55] <auronandace> distrodan: that will create the file and open it for editing, then add that line (options rtl8723be msi=1 ips=0) and press ctrl X to save
[15:57] <distrodan> thanks auronandace :) the file name ends in .conf.save for some reason
[15:58] <distrodan> should i delete the .save so its rtl8723be.conf
[15:58] <distrodan> like the ubuntu site says
[15:58] <auronandace> distrodan: have you saved and exited?
[15:58] <distrodan> yeah i saved and exited, i cant rename it actually
[15:59] <distrodan> hmm
[15:59] <wootehfoot> Hello! Where's the PPA with latest Eclipse builds? The repo only has 3.x builds.
[15:59] <auronandace> distrodan: sudo mv rtl8723be.conf.save rtl8723be.conf
[16:00] <auronandace> distrodan: sorry, you should use the full path: /etc/modprobe.d/rtl....
[16:01] <somsip> !ppa | wootehfoot (try the search)
[16:02] <distrodan> ah great thanks aurondace, that renamed it
[16:02] <distrodan> although its mimetype is different to the other .conf files in the folder
[16:03] <distrodan> do you think that will make a difference?
[16:03] <auronandace> distrodan: just to double check, reopen it with nano to see if it has the option blah blah that you put in it
[16:03] <distrodan> yep it has that line saved :)
[16:04] <wootehfoot> somazero, PPAs from 2010 are the latest, and others only compile part of the environment. Will download separately.
[16:04] <auronandace> distrodan: good stuff, the simplest way to test is to restart, if your wifi is working great, if not just remove the file with sudo rm
[16:05] <distrodan> ah actually i just noticed the info on the ubuntu site says its for 15.04
[16:05] <distrodan> im on 14.04
[16:05] <PMunch> Hi, I'm trying to dual boot something along with my Ubuntu intsall. In the intsaller I'm asked for a /boot/efi partition which typically is shared between systems. Ubuntu however does not seem to have created one, where is it?
[16:05] <auronandace> distrodan: are there other conf files in that directory apart from the one you just created?
[16:06] <distrodan> yeah 16
[16:06] <distrodan> including that new one
[16:06] <auronandace> distrodan: good, it will be used then
[16:08] <distrodan> thanks :D i might be back in a bit for some more noob help lol
[16:10] <adrian_1908> hello, I have problem with GDM. Ever since I installed fglrx yesterday, GDM will fail to launch. When I switch to tty1, log in there and manually start the GDM service, it starts just fine. I have removed fglrx again, reinstalled XOrg components and ran the reconfigure command, but to no avail. Any suggestions?
[16:11] <BottomNotch> I would be willing yo bet $10 that no one here is willing or can help me.
[16:11] <BottomNotch> *be willing to bet
[16:11] <auronandace> BottomNotch: depends on your issue
[16:11] <somsip> BottomNotch: depends on your attitude
[16:12] <BottomNotch> I need help getting my serial touch screen working
[16:12] <Daleus> BottomNotch, touch screen? keep the $10.
[16:12] <Daleus> BottomNotch, I kid, what's up?
[16:13] <ganymede> everytime he touches the screen, it moves the mouse pointer? :-)
[16:13] <Afdla> Hey. I installed apache2 and tried to setup a virtualhost like instructed here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP#Virtual_Hosts to allow access to /home/user/public_html/ but I still get 403 and apache log says "Permission denied because search permissions are missing on a component of the path". What do?
[16:14] <PMunch> Anyone know anything about the UEFI boot issue`
[16:14] <PMunch> ?*
[16:15] <ganymede> Enough to know there's more than one issue with UEFI boot. What exactly is the problem?
[16:15] <auronandace> PMunch: not sure how far you'll get not being specific
[16:15] <PMunch> Repost: Hi, I'm trying to dual boot something along with my Ubuntu intsall. In the intsaller I'm asked for a /boot/efi partition which typically is shared between systems. Ubuntu however does not seem to have created one, where is it?
[16:16] <ganymede> You are installing windows after ubuntu?
[16:16] <PMunch> No, Manjaro
[16:17] <ganymede> Ah ok. I am afraid I dont know how manjaro installers work, so I have to sit out.
[16:17] <auronandace> isn't the efi partition a tiny fat32 partition at the beginning of your disk?
[16:17] <somsip> PMunch: it's not supported here, and I'm not sure where
[16:18] <BottomNotch> sorry if someone gave any words of advice, your gonna hav to repeat yourself, I got disconnected.
[16:18] <marcanuy> How to use mutt as the MTA used by cron to send emails with crontab's MAILTO variable? http://askubuntu.com/questions/699667/how-to-use-mutt-as-the-mail-transport-agent-used-by-crontab
[16:18] <ganymede> BottomNotch: All we heard was that you have a serial touch screen, but nothing else
[16:18] <somsip> PMunch: its #manjaro
[16:18] <PMunch> somsip, I'm not really asking about anything Manjaro related. I'm just wondering what Ubuntu does with /boot/efi and where/if the partition is.
[16:19] <PMunch> And I'm already chatting with the guys in Manjaro
[16:19] <somsip> PMunch: you seem to be contradicting yourself in a way that seems less than truthful. So I'm out
[16:19] <fassl> can anybody help with grub blinking cursor on hardware raid?
[16:20] <BottomNotch> ganymede: it doesn't work at all. I'm running trusty on a lenovo thinkpad x61 tablet, the touchscreen is on /dev/tty
[16:20] <auronandace> PMunch: sudo parted -l
[16:20] <BottomNotch> oops, hit enter by accident
[16:20] <BottomNotch> it's on /dev/ttyS4
[16:21] <BottomNotch> sudo inputattach --drivername doesn't work
[16:21] <BottomNotch> mtouch does do somthing but it act's really crazy and weird
[16:21] <BottomNotch> callibration doesn't help either.
[16:22] <BottomNotch> does anyone have any ideas on what I can do to get it working?
[16:24] <PMunch> somsip, I'm sorry if I wasn't clear enough. It was never my intention to lie..
[16:24] <m431str0m> hi all
[16:24] <m431str0m> first time here. Just started learning a thing or two about linux, trying to learn for lpi 101 & 102 exams, went through the courses for 101 and started taking all kinds of exam questions wherever i find them. Do you know any good exercise books i could use?
[16:25] <PMunch> auronandace, do you want me to pastebin it for you or was it just a hint to where I could find it?
[16:25] <PMunch> The problem is that it's not there..
[16:25] <BottomNotch> So does no one know how I can get my touchscreen working again?
[16:25] <MonkeyDust> m431str0m #ubuntu-offtopic
[16:25] <auronandace> m431str0m: probably better asked in #ubuntu-discuss or #ubuntu-offtopic as this channel is for ubuntu support issues only
[16:25] <m431str0m> ah sorry, as I said new to this, will try there 10x
[16:26] <BottomNotch> I'm sorry, not working again, working period, I has never worked on ubuntu, only on windows.
[16:28] <auronandace> PMunch: i don't have much experience with UEFI systems, the only one i got i changed to legacy boot and formatted it with ms-dos style rather than gpt
[16:28] <BottomNotch> I don't think I'm ever gonna have a touchscreen on ubuntu :/ maybe I can call microsoft technical support and atleast get it working on windows 10
[16:29] <triss> hey all. do people think its worth me doing a reinstall? I've tried removing references from /var/lib/dpkg/status and removing debs from dpkg archive
[16:29] <triss> ?
[16:29] <auronandace> BottomNotch: my main screen is a touchscreen on my ideapad and it works fine on ubuntu
[16:29] <triss> I really need this machne back up in a few hours
[16:30] <PMunch> Hmm, I might boot back into Ubuntu (in the live part of Manjaro now) and see if that can clear some things up..
[16:30] <BottomNotch> auronandace: how old is it? the thinkpad x61 tablet is pretty old.
[16:31] <auronandace> BottomNotch: not as old as your x61
[16:31] <MonkeyDust> triss start from the beginning, what brings you here
[16:31] <BottomNotch> auronandace: is it a serial touchscreen?
[16:32] <triss> oh sorry. posted details at 3:42....
[16:32] <auronandace> BottomNotch: no, it is the actual laptop screen
[16:32] <triss> I'm doing an upgrade from 15.04 to 15.10
[16:32] <MonkeyDust> triss in which timezone?
[16:33] <triss> but it won't complete telling me the following: http://pastie.org/10565323
[16:33] <auronandace> triss: it would be far more straightforward to install afresh than deal with the mess you are in at the moment
[16:33] <MonkeyDust> triss simply hit the up arrow to repeat the question
[16:33] <triss> UK timezone GMT+0
[16:34] <triss> auronandace: I'm one of those foolish people that doesn't back up very often
[16:34] <BottomNotch> auronandace: what version of ubuntu are you running? google tells me that poeple have had their x61 tablet working with touch on older versions but not when they upgraded to trusty.
[16:34] <auronandace> triss: then this is a good lesson for you
[16:34] <triss> indeed!
[16:35] <triss> ok ISO download time
[16:35] <auronandace> triss: you are still in ubuntu now so you can backup all the files and documents that are important to you
[16:36] <auronandace> BottomNotch: hmm, sounds like a driver got depreciated in the kernel
[16:36] <auronandace> BottomNotch: i'm on 15.10
[16:39] <BottomNotch> auronandace: I really just need to get a new laptop. the screen isn't even capacitive, when it was working on windows before windows 10 I kept my finger nails long so it would be easier to use the touchscreen XD
[16:41] <auronandace> BottomNotch: i can recommend the ideapad flex 10 tha i am using for work, even though the touchscreen is fully operational i hardly ever touch it, just not conducive to my workflow
[16:43] <minas114> Hi. I'm on a laptop with the NVIDIA optimus, using the open source nouveau driver (which as I know, supports switching). How can I get the version of the NVIDIA GPU?
[16:43] <BottomNotch> auronandace: better than what I have now, but I'll probbaly want to get somthing with a little beefier specs, I want to do some casual gamming.
[16:44] <BottomNotch> auronandace: I think we are getting a bit off topic
[16:44] <auronandace> minas114: lspci will list your hardware, take a look at the VGA line
[16:45] <minas114> auronandace, Found it, it's GeForce 840M. Is there a way to run a program using that GPU?
[16:46] <auronandace> minas114: not sure what you mean exactly
[16:47] <minas114> auronandace, Correct me if I'm wrong: Wen a program runs, it uses the Intel GPU, but the driver can switch to the NVIDIA one if necessary. What I want to do is to run a program, e.g firefox using the nvidia GPU myself.
[16:47] <minas114> *when
[16:49] <auronandace> minas114: i wouldn't know how to do that sorry
[16:49] <minas114> auronandace, No problem, thanks anyway
[16:50] <django_> hey all
[16:50] <django_> id like to low ubuntu graphics so that computer goes faster
[16:51] <MonkeyDust> django_ try a lighter DE
[16:51] <django_> MonkeyDust: DE?
[16:51] <auronandace> django_: desktop environment
[16:51] <wootehfoot> Anyone here that remembers how to enable mouse interrupt mode to increase power saving?
[16:51] <auronandace> django_: if you are using the default that comes with ubuntu that would be unity
[16:51] <django_> do i have to reinstall Ubuntu?
[16:52] <MonkeyDust> django_ no, install lxde or xfce, logout, switch, login
[16:52] <wootehfoot> django_, that's entirely possible, try Ubuntu MATE, Xubuntu, or Lubuntu for lowest memory usage.
[16:52] <ganymede> In my opinion Lubuntu is the lightest.
[16:53] <wootehfoot> django_, when I installed xfce on ubuntu pretty much every configuration file got replaced, and everything was jumbled.
[16:53] <wootehfoot> django_, if you can, do reinstall
[16:53] <django_> :(
[16:53] <auronandace> django_: if you don't need any bells and whistles then a window manager might be the best option, they can take a bit of getting used to though
[16:53] <MonkeyDust> django_ take o look here, to get an idea http://imgur.com/a/9iaLJ#cMfLqdM
[16:53] <wootehfoot> django_, if reinstall is not an option go for lxde
[16:53] <nicomachus> ganymede: that's not really an opinion, it IS the lightest. only needs 512 mb of ram
[16:54] <wootehfoot> django_, lxde has least amount of gtk dependencies
[16:54] <wootehfoot> django_, = least amount of probabbility for conflicts
[16:54] <django_> From what i understood i can go from 3DUnity to 2D
[16:54] <wootehfoot> django_, yes, try trat first
[16:54] <wootehfoot> h*
[16:54] <ganymede> Lubuntu is LXDE. I've used it and it's not terrible.
[16:54] <django_> what about gnome?
[16:55] <wootehfoot> django_, gnome is pretty much Ubuntu MATE now
[16:55] <ganymede> gnome 3.x is quite heavyweight. Gnome 2x is deprecated
[16:55] <django_> ubuntu MATE?
[16:55] <wootehfoot> django_, google and look at screens, you'll recognize that it's pretty much gnome
[16:55] <auronandace> django_: gnome-shell is not really lighter than unity, they are about the same, mate is the continuation of gnome2 and is somewhat lighter but notas light as lxde
[16:56] <ganymede> if you were deciding purely on footprint, LXDE is the lightest modern one
[16:57] <ganymede> and you can install lxde without re-installing, as there's a package name for it, that i don't remember
[16:57] <nicomachus> is there any way to figure out what type of file /dev/input/js0 is?
[16:57] <nicomachus> I can't open it from terminal at all
[16:58] <zykotick9> nicomachus: fyi, /dev/input/js0 is a device (a joystick) you shouldn't be ablt to "open" it.
[16:58] <wootehfoot> django_, MATE is a fork of gnome2 by the way, so it's identical
[16:58] <nicomachus> that would explain it then...
[16:58] <django_> will this take long?
[16:58] <django_> also is it a huge performance different?
[16:59] <wootehfoot> django_, it's 2D by default, 3D is optional
[16:59] <ganymede> the Lubuntu/LXDE gui is a lot quicker on older machines as unity needs 3d acceleration
[16:59] <nicomachus> zykotick9: I'm trying to figure out the axis-mapping for a gamepad...
[16:59] <auronandace> django_: depends on your hardware, you'll just have to try and see
[16:59] <django_> how do i check if i am currently using unity2d or 3d
[16:59] <zykotick9> nicomachus: sorry, i don't have any suggestions. best of luck.
[16:59] <ganymede> I dont think there is a Unity2D anymore
[17:00] <wootehfoot> django_, it's Unity3D by default, 2D can be installed separately
[17:00] <yeboy> hello
[17:00] <wootehfoot> django_, 2D is deprecated since Ubuntu 12.10 though
[17:00] <logan7898> hey all
[17:01] <yeboy> CAN anyone help me , im trying to apt-get update and it is saying i need permissions , so how do i root ubuntu
[17:01] <logan7898> use
[17:01] <logan7898> use sudo
[17:02] <logan7898> sudo apt-get update
[17:02] <putrisinu> salve
[17:02] <wootehfoot> django_, do this "sudo apt-get install ubuntu-mate-desktop" and see if MATE is good enough for your purposes. You can change to it by logging out, choosing MATE as desktop environment, then logging in again.
[17:02] <django_> ahh cool
[17:02] <overdose> Overdose1
[17:03] <django_> im on ubuntu 14.04
[17:03] <django_> https://www.irccloud.com/pastebin/7eN3qucf/
[17:03] <django_> wootehfoot: not finding it
[17:04] <wootehfoot> django_, ok, that's probably because Ubuntu MATE is new. It's only been around from 15.04
[17:04] <wootehfoot> django_, you can find the iso here http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-mate/releases/15.10/release/
[17:05] <jheneffe> NoobGuide
[17:05] <django_> oh well
[17:05] <wootehfoot> (but that implies a reinstall)
[17:05] <django_> its not that bad heh
[17:05] <logan8789> is anyone any good with networking? :-)
[17:05] <django_> i just have to restart like once per day
[17:05] <nicomachus> logan8789: ##networking is
[17:05] <OerHeks> mate-desktop, not ubuntu-mate-desktop
[17:05] <jheneffe> NoobGuide
[17:05] <OerHeks> !info mate-desktop
[17:06] <OerHeks> if you are not comfortable with the names,use the softwarecenter
[17:06] <logan8789> thanks, its more to do with nic setup in ubuntu though
[17:06] <auronandace> jheneffe: try constructing a sentence
[17:07] <wootehfoot> django_, oh, try what OerHeks said, "sudo apt-get install mate-desktop"
[17:07] <OerHeks> jheneffe, do you have an ubuntu support question?
[17:07] <wootehfoot> but i doubt it'll work, considering mate is from 15.04+
[17:07] <django_> installing :)
[17:07] <wootehfoot> nice
[17:07] <yeboy> i need to know how to root my ubuntu
[17:07] <ikonia> how to root it ?
[17:07] <ikonia> what are you talking about ?
[17:07] <auronandace> !sudo | yeboy
[17:07] <wootehfoot> yeboy, sudo su
[17:07] <ikonia> wootehfoot: no
[17:08] <yeboy> well im trying to install somthing and its saying i need permisions , or root
[17:09] <wootehfoot> yeboy, run it with sudo then
[17:09] <logan8789> I just installed a gigabit ethernet card in my ubuntu server. but only the mobo ethernet adapter works. The drivers are definitely installed but im only getting eth0 and the pci nic doesnt obtain an IP. If anyone has any ideas :-)
[17:09] <ikonia> yeboy: what are you trying to install, and we can help you
[17:09] <ikonia> logan8789: what model is the card ?
[17:09] <logan8789> tp-link tg3269
[17:10] <ikonia> logan8789: how do you know "the drivers are installed"
[17:10] <django_> ok it finished
[17:10] <django_> wootehfoot: what do i do next
[17:11] <logan8789> it comes up in the lshw and i read the drivers are auto included in ubuntu
[17:11] <ikonia> logan8789: please pastebin the output of the command "sudo ifconfig -a"
[17:11] <wootehfoot> django_, log out, choose MATE as your desktop, then log in
[17:11] <wootehfoot> django_, there's a drop-down box where you choose deskto environments
[17:11] <yeboy> how do i log in ubuntu as super user
[17:12] <ikonia> yeboy: you shouldn't need to
[17:12] <ikonia> yeboy: explaint he problem
[17:12] <nicomachus> yeboy: several people have answered your question, and asked what you're trying to install so that they can help
[17:12] <Gomi> use sudo instead
[17:12] <jheneffe> OpParis
[17:12] <ikonia> the
[17:12] <django_> wootehfoot: do i have to log out or just lock
[17:12] <ikonia> jheneffe: do you need ubuntu help, yes/no ?
[17:12] <wootehfoot> django_, full log-out
[17:12] <logan8789> http://paste.ubuntu.com/13332169/ thanks
[17:12] <nicomachus> jheneffe: this is not the place for that. you can find the noobguide online with google.
[17:12] <jheneffe> yes
[17:12] <yeboy> im trying to use sudo , but its ok thanks anyways
[17:13] <efoster> what do you need help with in ubuntu?
[17:13] <wootehfoot> yeboy, sudo ./application.bin
[17:13] <wootehfoot> yeboy, or, sudo sh application.bin
[17:13] <jheneffe> #OpParis
[17:14] <jheneffe> RC channel used by Anonymous to share information on #OpParis: a “NoobGuide” for anyone that wants to get involved but doesn’t have the hacking knowledge, a “Reporter” guide detailing the setup of a Twitter bot for uncovering IS accounts, and the “Searcher” guide designed to help hacktivists around the world uncover IS websites
[17:14] <OerHeks> jheneffe, so you don't have an ubuntu support question, join #ubuntu-offtopic ..
[17:14] <ikonia> jheneffe: this is nothing to wo with ubuntu - please drop this topic
[17:15] <ikonia> OerHeks: that is not appropriate for offtopic either
[17:15] <logan8789> ikonia: I am guessing it looks as if its not installed
[17:15] <yeboy> cant open application bin
[17:15] <efoster> Does it have permission?
[17:15] <ikonia> logan8789: one moment
[17:15] <puter> Hi there all, would you believe that my system settings icon and pannel has turned into the ubuntu phone icon and and panel! This is on Ubuntu 15.10! Can anyone help me get the desktop one back please? I figure that this must have happen with an update or something :/
[17:16] <bdert> Anyone on lenovo y50-70 and ubuntu, please query :)
[17:16] <wootehfoot> yeboy, ok, that means it's not executable, type sudo chmod +x application.bin, you have to change the word "application" for the name of your file, i thought you understood that
[17:16] <ikonia> logan8789: is enp1s9 not the card
[17:16] <ikonia> bdert: what's the issue ?
[17:17] <efoster> yeboy I don't know what application you're trying to run but be sure it's authentic before you change permissions
[17:17] <logan8789> ikonia: i am guessing it is, so do i need to set it to get dhcp?
[17:17] <ikonia> logan8789: correct
[17:17] <bdert> ikonia: nvidia drivers, it comes with a hybrid geforce and intel, nvidia-settings work fine, but the fan is loud and using just phpstorm and chrome it switched off once, just randomly.
[17:17] <ikonia> bdert: the fan just switches off ?
[17:17] <ikonia> or the machine does
[17:17] <wootehfoot> Anyone here that has undervolting working with intel_pstate?
[17:18] <logan8789> ?
[17:18] <logan8789> oops
[17:18] <bdert> ikonia: the machine switched off.
[17:18] <yeboy> no it does not have permission i think thats the problem
[17:18] <ikonia> bdert: thats odd, like a hard reset ?
[17:18] <logan8789> auto enp1s9 iface enp1s9 inet dhcp ?
[17:18] <ikonia> logan8789: is this a desktop install ?
[17:18] <bdert> Yeah, as if I clicked the power button. It went off and did now swtich on.
[17:19] <wootehfoot> yeboy, right click the file→properties→find a checkbox names "executable"→tick it→click ok
[17:19] <wootehfoot> named*
[17:19] <logan8789> nope command line only ubuntu server
[17:19] <ikonia> bdert: what version of ubuntu ?
[17:19] <bdert> ikonia: you on lenovo yourself?
[17:19] <ikonia> logan8789: so use the interfaces file for eth0 as a template
[17:19] <ikonia> bdert: I use a few lenovo
[17:19] <logan8789> thats what i did and i added the above lines, should i just remove eth0 if im not using it anymore?
[17:19] <yeboy> i have 15.10 i think
[17:19] <bdert> ikonia: ubuntu-14.04.3-desktop-amd64
[17:20] <ikonia> logan8789: no, eth0 will stil need/should have a definition
[17:20] <logan8789> ok so i restart the networking service and it should work?
[17:20] <bdert> ikonia: i had many problems with the nvidia drivers it still doesn't detect my card it says unknown but works OK now, part from the loud fan.
[17:20] <ikonia> logan8789: if it's defined correctly
[17:20] <logan8789> lets see :) thanks
[17:20] <yeboy> i have no time now butt hank you everyone i will come back later
[17:20] <ikonia> bdert: the hybrid cards are not well supported in my opinion,
[17:21] <bdert> ikonia very true, but... any workaround?
[17:22] <ikonia> bdert: work around for what exactly
[17:23] <bdert> Not sure. Any ideas on how to and what drivers exactly I should install? I have nvidia prime now, bumblebee doesn't work good
[17:23] <ikonia> I thought bumblebee was EOL
[17:23] <ikonia> I'm not %100
[17:24] <wootehfoot> bdert, i've used prime, and don't like it because my nvidia card is always idling in the background. So now i use just use nvidia proprietary, and manually switch between Intel/nvidia by logging in and logging out.
[17:24] <nitish> how can I update mozila firefox?
[17:24] <nicomachus> ikonia bdert: bumblebee supported up to 14.04: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Bumblebee
[17:24] <wootehfoot> bdert, laptop eats like 2W extra just by having nvidia card idling.
[17:25] <nicomachus> and now officially supported by ubuntu in 14.04 and newer
[17:25] <ikonia> thank you
[17:26] <Delta706> Can someone suggest an irc channel where hosting of ubuntu machines is discussed?
[17:27] <bdert> wootehfoot using nvidia proprietary, means nvidia doesn't idle in the background?
[17:27] <explosive> #ubuntu-server Delta706
[17:27] <computer> can anyone say me a C programmer's channel ?
[17:27] <explosive> ##c
[17:27] <computer> thanks
[17:27] <computer> bro
[17:27] <explosive> ( tread carefully, they are jackasses )
[17:27] <Delta706> explosive: thanks
[17:27] <puter> I get it, I think somehow the ubuntu-system-settings package got installed and it uninstalled the unity-control-center! Don't ask me how that happened geez
[17:27] <marcanuy> Is it possible to set up crontab to use Mutt as its default MTA? (making usage of its MAILTO variable). -> http://askubuntu.com/q/699667/43253
[17:27] <computer> explosive
[17:27] <logan8789> ikonia: good stuff thanks! :-)
[17:27] <computer> thanks
[17:27] <explosive> computer: np :)
[17:27] <computer> i will be carefull
[17:27] <computer> ##c
[17:28] <computer> ##c
[17:28] <explosive> computer: type /join ##c
[17:28] <wootehfoot> computer, or right click ##c and select join
[17:29] <nitish> is there any php channel?
[17:29] <explosive> nitish: ##php maybe?
[17:30] <alberto_> Hello everyone!
[17:30] <explosive> hello
[17:30] <puter> Yep that's what is was. Still don't have the system setting icon come up in the untiy dash when I type it's key letters but it will run from the terminal just fine. Maybe it will after a restart :)
[17:31] <alberto_> I have a problem with a game I just downloaded, it's sh executable and it tells me "Not found!"
[17:31] <explosive> alberto_: did you chmod +x it?
[17:32] <jheneffe> OpParis
[17:32] <alberto_> explosive I actually did chmod a+rwx
[17:32] <alberto_> And this is what I get:
[17:32] <puter> close
[17:33] <alberto_> ./mania_drive.sh: 3: ./mania_drive.sh: game/mania_drive.static: not found
[17:33] <explosive> alberto_: it's complaining about game/mania_drive.static
[17:33] <tux_> ola
[17:34] <explosive> alberto_: try find -name "mania_drive.static"
[17:34] <sachin_a> /join #vim
[17:34] <bdonnahue> hey everyone. im trying to run the follwoing command but i get a timeout
[17:34] <bdonnahue> gpg --keyserver keys.gnupg.net --recv-key 62B4981F
[17:34] <bdonnahue> can anyone help me?
[17:34] <alberto_> explosive ./game/mania_drive.static
[17:34] <bubbles> i am in deep deep deep hole
[17:35] <bubbles> anyone can help?
[17:35] <explosive> alberto_: ok, so it's there
[17:35] <nicomachus> bubbles: not until you state the problem.
[17:35] <bubbles> i have this called xfce
[17:35] <aptGot> hello everyone, I try installing Xen VM, and I followed the community documentation, but 'sudo xl list' returned an error: 'cant find hypervisor information in sysfs!' I read that this was a common error, and tried the 'dpkg-divert--' command to fix it, but it didnt
[17:35] <bubbles> and i don't know what happened but the minimize, maximize and close buttons don't appear only on windows
[17:36] <alberto_> explosive Perhaps I should change permissions to the whole /game/ directory, shouldn't I?
[17:36] <bubbles> what can i do?
[17:37] <explosive> alberto_: type ls -ld game
[17:37] <bdonnahue> can anyone help me with this keyserver issue.
[17:37] <alberto_> explosive drwxrwxrwx 4 alberto alberto 4096 ago 17 2006 game
[17:37] <trism> alberto_: are you on amd64? if so might be an i386 binary and you would need to install libc6:i386. you can check: file game/mania_drive.static
[17:37] <icewalker> some my wifi on ubuntu 15.10 is missing the wpa/2. how can i added wpa/2 to my wifi?
[17:37] <bubbles> omg i found out that the buttons are there on windows
[17:38] <alberto_> trism Yes, I'm on amd64
[17:38] <bubbles> but they get hidden under the top panel
[17:38] <bubbles> please help
[17:39] <trism> alberto_: try: sudo apt-get install libc6:i386; assuming: file game/mania_drive.static; says something like ELF 32-Bit
[17:39] <jheneffe> As instruções para encontrar sites relacionados com o ISIS
[17:39] <jheneffe> 1. Obtenha Python em https://www.python.org/downloads/ a menos que você já tem (Mac faz)
[17:39] <jheneffe> 2. Abra o Terminal (ou Prompt de Comando do Windows) e tipo (sem aspas) "python"
[17:39] <jheneffe> 3. Agora, essa etapa requer um pouco de explicação. Vamos definir isso a limpo, vamos ...
[17:39] <jheneffe> Copie o conteúdo do link a seguir para o clipboard https://ghostbin.com/paste/oo4tb
[17:39] <jheneffe> O conteúdo dessa ligação estão alguns termos de busca que se relacionam com ISIS e seu conteúdo, o que lhe permite afinar os resultados para aqueles específicos
[17:39] <jheneffe> Cole as cordas para o terminal e pressione Enter
[17:39] <abra0> ಠ_ಠ
[17:39] <trism> alberto_: you might need more i386 libs too, after you install libc6:i386 you can run: ldd game/mania_drive.static; to see which ones
[17:40] <bubbles> should i post ss?
[17:41] <alberto_> trism game/mania_drive.static: error while loading shared libraries: libGL.so.1: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[17:41] <OnkelTem> Hi all. How to switch on/off a service (from cmdline)?
[17:41] <OnkelTem> I mean not running at all at startup
[17:42] <OnkelTem> I remember there were a sysv-rc-conf or something on debian
[17:42] <OnkelTem> But is there an easier way?
[17:42] <bubbles> OnkelTem, every desktop environment has own startup options
[17:43] <trism> alberto_: sudo apt-get install libgl1-mesa-glx:i386
[17:43] <bubbles> OnkelTem, in default gnome you can goto /usr/share/applications
[17:43] <bubbles> and open startup applications
[17:44] <OnkelTem> bubbles: I'm talking about services, not applications. I want to disable some services to save RAM
[17:44] <alberto_> trism Thank you, now it's asking for libGLU.so.1
[17:44] <OnkelTem> so I'm looking for a way to do it quickly
[17:44] <enzino> !ciao
[17:44] <bubbles> write a bash script
[17:44] <enzino> !list
[17:45] <OnkelTem> bubbles: which would do what?
[17:45] <bubbles> if service found kill it
[17:45] <enzino> !ciao
[17:45] <enzino> list!
[17:45] <OnkelTem> I don't need to kill it, I need not to run it at startap
[17:45] <enzino> !list
[17:46] <trism> alberto_: libglu1-mesa:i386
[17:46] <alberto_> trism sudo apt-get install libglu1-mesa?
[17:46] <alberto_> trism Ok, sorry
[17:46] <trism> alberto_: yeah the :i386 one
[17:47] <bubbles> here is my sample bash script for setting ionice on some processes http://paste.ubuntu.com/13332617/
[17:47] <bubbles> you can edit it according to your need
[17:48] <alberto_> trism Thank you very much
[17:48] <alberto_> trism Only there's no sound in the game
[17:48] <OnkelTem> bubbles: thanks, but yet again - what you are suggesting is completely not what I'm asking about
[17:49] <bubbles> xfce is buggy :(
[17:49] <OnkelTem> I want to disable/enable a service
[17:49] <Horo_horo> Alberto: where are you?
[17:50] <bubbles> OnkelTem, you said you wanted to save ram. you can save ram by killing the service o.O
[17:50] <alberto_> horo_horo Spain, EU
[17:50] <bubbles> not having a service started or having it started and then killing it is nearly same
[17:50] <OnkelTem> bubbles: agrhhh.... why starting them?
[17:50] <OnkelTem> bubbles: not the same, man :)
[17:50] <explosive> OnkelTem: which ubuntu are you using and which service is it?
[17:51] <OnkelTem> explosive: Ubuntu 14.04. Whatever - postgresql, mysql - anything
[17:51] <OnkelTem> explosive: those which I run with service <service> start
[17:52] <explosive> try update-rc.d -f mysql disable
[17:52] <bubbles> OnkelTem, try this http://superuser.com/questions/339583/gui-tool-to-manage-services-in-ubuntu
[17:53] <bubbles> i always come here to fix my problem but end up fixing someone elses problem >.<
[17:54] <trism> alberto_: the faq says it uses openal so maybe you just need: libopenal1:i386
[17:54] <sudhirkhanger> The official Ubuntu wiki recommends installing nvidia package (304 series) where as but AskUbuntu recommends nvidia-331. I am confused as in which one to use.
[17:54] <OnkelTem> bubbles: it's not fair, you're just googling! :)
[17:54] <alberto_> trism Thank you once again :)
[17:55] <bubbles> OnkelTem, yep, you should have done that actually
[17:56] <bubbles> OnkelTem, hardly took 5 secs but they said not to ask people to google
[17:56] <DarkSky> /part
[17:56] <DarkSky> oh haha
[17:56] <DarkSky> sorry :p
[17:56] <NullThought> Is anyone here running a 4k monitor? I have an i7-4790k @ 4.4Ghz, 16GB DDR3 RAM, and a GTX 960, however my machine runs like a dog
[17:56] <NullThought> I mean super slow
[17:57] <OnkelTem> bubbles: well, true. But still it's what I was looking for. In my question there is "cmdline" mention :)
[17:57] <OnkelTem> it's NOT
[17:57] <NullThought> animations are slow, scrolling on any browser is super slow, applications in general run slow.
[17:57] <NullThought> seems to only happen at 4k resolution, though
[17:57] <OnkelTem> bubbles: but hold on, looks like on another channel I got some aid, will share the solition in minutes
[17:57] <NullThought> CPU and GPU aren't pegged out either
[17:58] <bubbles> OnkelTem, cmdline is 19th century, install bum you will stay in profit
[17:58] <alberto_> trism open /dev/[sound/]dsp: No such file or directory
[17:58] <alberto_> Raydium: ERROR: Cannot open Sound System
[17:58] <bubbles> OnkelTem, cant hang on, gotta go. cheers!
[17:58] <OnkelTem> "cmdline is 19th century" - lol
[17:59] <trism> alberto_: you could try editing the sh file and running game/mania_drive.static with padsp in front since we don't have /dev/dsp using pulseaudio
[18:02] <alberto_> trism Puseaudio is always causing issues
[18:02] <alberto_> Pulseaudio
[18:02] <nicomachus> is there any way to do a speedtest from terminal?
[18:03] <adrian_1908> isn't there a speedtest script written in python? I vaguely remember such a thing.
[18:03] <reisio> wget -O - https://raw.githubusercontent.com/sivel/speedtest-cli/master/speedtest_cli.py | python
[18:04] <alberto_> trism It didn't work
[18:04] <nicomachus> nice reisio. danke.
[18:04] <trism> alberto_: yeah it doesn't always, I'm out of ideas unfortunately
[18:05] <alberto_> trism Thank you very much :)
[18:06] <chinesesausage> good afternoon
[18:08] <nicomachus> definitely tying that to an alias...
[18:08] <chinesesausage> I am using xfce4, does anybody know about enabling the notification balloons fade in and fade out animations?
[18:09] <chinesesausage> also, the notification balloons cannot change theme
[18:10] <chinesesausage> any help would be appreciated :)
[18:10] <Teoreon> Helo!
[18:13] <Apteryx> Hi folks! Is it possible to configure two (concurrently active) network connections using NetworkManager? Or is this still a good old /etc/network/interfaces
[18:13] <Apteryx> use case.
[18:15] <nicomachus> apparently I don't know how to create an alias?
[18:15] <Bilel_mk> hey
[18:15] <nicomachus> reisio: I put that command into .bash_aliases after alias speedtest=, but then "speedtest" comes up as "command not found"
[18:16] <Rallias> So... I'm trying to do an `apt-get update` but am getting a 'Hash Sum mismatch' error on security.ubuntu.com, what am I doing wrong?
[18:16] <ille> Apteryx: u can use two active interface. but dont use only 1 gateway
[18:16] <Rallias> Rather, what should I be doing.
[18:16] <reisio> nicomachus: source ~/.bash_aliases ?
[18:16] <nicomachus> no output
[18:17] <compdoc> Rallias, sometimes repos are being updated and things dont work. you might wait, or you might run: sudo apt-get clean
[18:19] <Apteryx> ille: OK! I got confused by the GUI task bar reporting only the last connections made.
[18:19] <Apteryx> last connection*
[18:19] <Apteryx> I will look into configuring a 2nd gateway. Thanks.
[18:19] <ille> Apteryx: paste your interfaces and i can look at them
[18:20] <Apteryx> ille: Would the output of ifconfig be what you want to see?
[18:21] <ille> Apteryx: yes
[18:22] <Apteryx> ille: http://paste.ubuntu.com/13333119/
[18:22] <nicomachus> reisio: odd. works now. Maybe needed some load time? idk
[18:23] <Apteryx> The two interfaces of interest are: wlan1 and eth1
[18:23] <ille> i can only see wlan1. is wlan2 up?
[18:24] <reisio> nicomachus: might've needed a source
[18:24] <Apteryx> ille: the other interface I want to use is eth1
[18:24] <Apteryx> so a mix of ethernet and wlan
[18:25] <ille> Apteryx: is two diffrent network or the same? i mean eth1 is connected with network cable and wlan1 is connected via wirelss
[18:26] <Apteryx> ille: two different networks
[18:27] <Apteryx> ethernet will be used only to communicate in point to point fashion with another device
[18:27] <Apteryx> while wlan is my main internet enabled network
[18:29] <ille> Apteryx: paste your /etc/network/interfaces
[18:30] <Apteryx> ille: I think I managed to find a setting in NetworkManager that does the trick... In IPv4 settings, Route button, I checked the "Use this connection only for resources on its network".
[18:30] <Apteryx> Now when I show my routes using the 'route' cmd, it says: http://paste.ubuntu.com/13333227/
[18:31] <ille> you can allways put IP and subnet in networkmanager but not the gateway on eth1
[18:32] <Apteryx> ille: OK. My /etc/network/interfaces contains just the defaults 2 lines of Ubuntu (NetworkManager is not modifying this it seems).
[18:32] <Apteryx> I think I'm all set! I need to do a couple tests to see if it truly works! Thanks for your help, ille!
[18:32] <ille> Apteryx: yes if u use networkmanager the interface not work. thata right. sorry my misstage. i dont a GUI guy
[18:33] <ille> Apteryx: did u delete the gateway on eth1 and i work? or it was a route?
[18:33] <Apteryx> ille: hehe, no problem! GUIs are often a PITA.
[18:33] <ille> and it work*
[18:34] <Apteryx> There is a gateway on eth1, but it is set to 169.254.2.11 which is itself.
[18:34] <Apteryx> Maybe I don't need that. Just remembered this is how I used to set up point to point ethernet connections over IP.
[18:38] <clayjar> Hello. I'm on 14.04.2 LTS and whenever I do apt-get update I keep getting W: Failed to fetch ... Hash Sum mismatch. I've tried almost every solution found on StackOverflow w/o success. Please help.
[18:39] <OerHeks> clayjar, change mirror and try again ?
[18:39] <carotte> hi *
[18:41] <clayjar> OerHeks, change to which mirror? I changed it different countries and keep getting same errors.
[18:42] <OerHeks> clayjar, oke, next step from https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PackageManagerTroubleshootingProcedure >> sudo rm -rf /var/lib/apt/lists && sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade
[18:44] <clayjar> OerHeks, been there and done that.
[18:45] <clayjar> OerHeks: but I'll go to that page again and give a better look, thanks.
[18:46] <OerHeks> clayjar, pastebin the errors you get please
[18:49] <clayjar> OerHeks: http://kopy.io/9pzQZ
[18:54] <OerHeks> clayjar, no funny items to see there, us mirror should be oke, else try the 'main' mirror
[18:55] <clayjar> %s/us\./main\./g ??
[18:55] <clayjar> sorry for the vim syntax. You mean just replace 'us' with 'main' ?
[18:57] <clayjar> or is that w/o the country code as in "archive.canonical.com" ?
[18:57] <OerHeks> yes, remove the us. part
[18:58] <OerHeks> or use the softwarecenter > sources gui
[18:59] <clayjar> OerHeks: Thanks. Just CLI here, no GUIs.
[19:04] <clayjar> OerHeks: just executed all those commands in the troubleshooting page. Here's the output: http://kopy.io/k5F1J
[19:05] <nkd> how can I install plugin in vim?
[19:05] <clayjar> nkd: there are few packages out there for this, but I use this: https://github.com/Shougo/neobundle.vim
[19:06] <nkd> clayjar: how can I install plugin of vim form command line?
[19:07] <OerHeks> clayjar, i have no clue :-(
[19:07] <clayjar> Once that's installed, all you have to do is just add a line (e.g. NeoBundle 'mattn/calendar-vim') in your ~/.vimrc and rerun your vim.
[19:07] <clayjar> OerHeks, it used to have a proxy (an institutional one).. and it must have installed something toxic.
[19:07] <clayjar> This is why French revolution happened...
[19:08] <OerHeks> clayjar, on this page is a one-liner to change your sources.list > http://askubuntu.com/questions/91815/how-to-install-software-or-upgrade-from-an-old-unsupported-release first answer
[19:08] <OerHeks> oh proxy, that could be it.
[19:08] <clayjar> OerHeks: I removed that some time ago though.
[19:09] <OerHeks> clayjar, then again, you would not get ANY list with proxy ..
[19:09] <Guest494> the command lshw -c video, shows that my intel G41 is using the driver i915, however, in the gentoo wiki https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/Intel (yes I'm using ubuntu but I don't see how this would change) it says it should be using i965
[19:10] <clayjar> nkd: http://superuser.com/questions/404686/installing-plugins-in-vim
[19:10] <Guest494> http://paste.ubuntu.com/13333643/ this is the log of the program
[19:10] <Guest494> of the command, I mean
[19:11] <nkd> can I connect to irc channel with windows?
[19:11] <trollkarlen1> nkd: yes ofcourse
[19:11] <clayjar> nkd: on Windows OS ??
[19:12] <nkd> clayjar: yes.
[19:12] <nkd> trollkarlen1: how?
[19:12] <clayjar> nkd: have you heard of Google ?
[19:12] <Guest494> this is the command of glxinfo showing my integrated gpu's model http://paste.ubuntu.com/13333664/
[19:12] <trollkarlen1> nkd: use a windows IRC client..like pidgin
[19:12] <nkd> clayjar: using it more than 2 dozen times a day.
[19:13] <clayjar> nkd: flabbergasting.
[19:13] <maxscam1> Hi, my computer is no longer showing the SSD in GParted. I am currently running on a live CD. ANy help?
[19:15] <clayjar> maxscam1: is it connected via USB ?
[19:15] <maxscam1> clayjar: no, it's internal
[19:15] <clayjar> maxscam1: is it old ?
[19:16] <TJ-> maxscam1: check 'dmesg' to see if the device, and its controller, is discovered by the kernel
[19:16] <nasenmann> Hello, can somebody help me getting 2 graphic adapters to work at once?
[19:17] <maxscam1> TJ- thanks
[19:17] <maxscam1> clayjar: no its new
[19:17] <nasenmann> I have 3 monitors on 2 graphic adapters, and they to not run
[19:17] <clayjar> lspci to check if it's connected.
[19:17] <TJ-> nasenmann: are the GPUs the same make?
[19:17] <nasenmann> @TJ-: No, Its an ATI Radeon R7200 and a NVIDIA Geforce 6610 XL
[19:18] <Vas> hey guys, trying to install printer software, is anyone able to lend a hand?
[19:18] <TJ-> nasenmann: you'll need to configure a custom /etc/X11/xorg.conf for them. You'll need at least 2 X screens configuring, 1 per GPU
[19:19] <maxscam1> TJ- how can i see in dmesg which devices are installed? I know the SSD is a 128GB Kingston. "dmesg "
[19:19] <maxscam1> TJ - "dmesg | grep kingston" is empty though
[19:19] <nasenmann> TJ-: Ok, I installed the nvidia xserver to get the Geforce 6610 to work. When I add a device to xorg.conf and reboot, the second device is deleted
[19:19] <nasenmann> The file looks like before
[19:20] <Guest73183> hi
[19:21] <aurora_> I have a asus laptop F302L and volume buttons work but not to change the brightness of the screen. Any tips on how to fix it or link to where I can read more about it?
[19:21] <Vas> Hey guys, i have an MG5240 printer. downloaded the software driver online(linux 32, even tho i have ubuntu, not sure if that would work) but unlike windows, i dont have a setup.exe. Can anyone help me figure this out?
[19:22] <Vas> aurora - did u try pressing and holding the fn button ?
[19:22] <explosive> aurora_: try adding acpi_backlight=vendor to the kernel parameters list after quiet splash
[19:23] <explosive> in /etc/default/grub , then sudo update-grub
[19:23] <Vas> lol, way out of my league here
[19:24] <aurora_> explosive, thanks, ill try that
[19:24] <explosive> np
[19:25] <Vas> Hey guys, i have an MG5240 printer. downloaded the software driver online(linux 32, even tho i have ubuntu, not sure if that would work) but unlike windows, i dont have a setup.exe. Can anyone help me figure this out?
[19:26] <explosive> Vas: did you download the .tar.gz file?
[19:26] <aurora_> explosive, just to confirm that i got it right, the line should look like this: GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT="quiet splash acpi_backlight=vendor"
[19:26] <Vas> explosive: just tar, there is no .gz in the extension
[19:27] <explosive> ok, cd to the extracted dir, then type ./configure
[19:27] <explosive> aurora_: yup
[19:27] <nkd> is there any free irc client for windows os?
[19:28] <Pici> nkd: Yes, but ask ##windows, not #ubuntu
[19:28] <badbodh> nkd, hexchat
[19:29] <aurora_> explosive, reboot required? And i got this warning while doing the update-grub : Warning: Setting GRUB_TIMEOUT to a non-zero value when GRUB_HIDDEN_TIMEOUT is set is no longer supported.
[19:29] <aurora_> is that anything i need to fix?
[19:29] <ratchetmeche> hello
[19:30] <anas> Hello everyone
[19:30] <explosive> aurora_: no it's ok
[19:30] <aurora_> sweet, big thanks
[19:30] <aurora_> brb
[19:30] <Guest23864> hey
[19:30] <Vas> explosive: ./configure is giving me a "No such file or directory" error
[19:31] <Bashing-om> aurore_: "sudo update-grub' for the change to propogate ?
[19:31] <explosive> Vas: is there a README?
[19:31] <Vas> explosive: ok so i extracted the downloaded file which i hadnt done earlier, but i am getting 3 sub folders
[19:32] <explosive> Vas: type ls -lR /path/to/extracted/dir
[19:33] <explosive> Vas: paste the output in paste.ubuntu.com
[19:34] <aurora_> back, dident work :(
[19:36] <aurora_> but the screen is very bright and nothing happens when i change it in "brightness and lock" hehe
[19:36] <Bashing-om> aurore_: Did you 'sudo update-grub' for the change in the config file to propogate ?
[19:36] <Vas> explosive: http://paste.ubuntu.com/13333858/
[19:37] <explosive> aurora_: try adding \"acpi_osi=Windows 2012\"
[19:37] <aurora_> Bashing-om, i did the update but not the propogate
[19:37] <explosive> instead of acpi_backlight
[19:37] <aurora_> explosive, ill try it now
[19:37] <Pici> /36/36
[19:38] <explosive> Vas: type tar xzvf /extracted/dir/cnijfilter-mg5200series-3.40-1-deb.tar.gz
[19:39] <aurora_> GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT="quiet splash \"acpi_osi=Windows 2012\"" or GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT="quiet splash acpi_osi=Windows 2012"
[19:39] <explosive> first one
[19:39] <aurora_> thankss
[19:41] <aurora_> just so i know, when updating grub do i always need reboot?
[19:41] <aurora_> im new to linux =)
[19:41] <Vas> explosive: http://paste.ubuntu.com/13333911/
[19:41] <explosive> aurora_: yeah to see the effects
[19:42] <aurora_> cool, thanks. brb
[19:42] <explosive> Vas: cd to the new dir and type chmod +x install.sh
[19:42] <explosive> then type ./install.sh
[19:43] <Vas> explosive: what's the new directory?
[19:43] <explosive> the new dir that was createtd after extracting the .deb.tar.gz
[19:44] <aurora_> It works to change the brightness from brightness and lock, but not from buttons
[19:44] <explosive> aurora_: you can try different 2015 .. 2014 etc
[19:45] <aurora_> ah, cool
[19:45] <parrot> greetings
[19:45] <explosive> it was working to change from brightness and lock before?
[19:45] <lotuspsychje> parrot: welcome, what can we do for you?
[19:46] <aurora_> before the first change yes
[19:46] <explosive> aurora_: ok
[19:47] <aurora_> reboot
[19:47] <parrot> I installed ubuntu mate 14.04 in a toshiba satellite l50d-b
[19:47] <parrot> and i have problems
[19:47] <lotuspsychje> parrot: what kind of problems
[19:48] <parrot> first wifi switch doesn't close when i press the button
[19:48] <BeefSec> what is a processor microcode (intel) driver?
[19:48] <Vas> explosive: ok got it
[19:48] <Vas> i think its installing
[19:49] <Li> I am trying conky for the 1ts time .. sudo apt-get install conky conky-all .. but when I search for ~/conky I don't find anything!
[19:49] <nicomachus> Li: try ~/.conky
[19:49] <lotuspsychje> BeefSec: what are you trying to do?
[19:49] <parrot> secondly the touchpad freezes
[19:50] <Bashing-om> aurore_: ' sudo strings /sys/firmware/acpi/tables/DSDT | grep -i windows ' to identify the latest Windows version listed.
[19:50] <parrot> and finaly and worst of all when I shutdown it restarts again:(
[19:50] <nicomachus> Li: conky-manager is also a very useful GUI tool if you're new to conky.
[19:50] <BeefSec> lotuspsychje, Just looking at the additional drivers that are listed, just curious to what it is
[19:50] <parrot> any help?
[19:50] <BeefSec> or if I really need it
[19:50] <Vas> explosive: http://paste.ubuntu.com/13333989/
[19:51] <lotuspsychje> BeefSec: if ubuntu suggests it, surely safe to install driver
[19:51] <Li> nicomachus: I'm sure that file doesn't exist on the system nor the CM
[19:51] <Li> even though the installation process was completed successfully
[19:52] <explosive> Vas: try sudo apt-get install libtiff4
[19:52] <Li> moreover now I accidently delete some default entry from the statup application preferenes
[19:52] <nicomachus> Li: what file? .conky should be in your home folder
[19:53] <Li> I don even know what was it
[19:53] <aurora_> back, i have tried from 2012 to 2015, dident fix it. any more suggestions?
[19:54] <Li> nicomachus: but it's not there.
[19:54] <nicomachus> Li: the .conky file won't show up until after conky has been run at least once.
[19:54] <Vas> explosive: http://paste.ubuntu.com/13334024/
[19:54] <lotuspsychje> parrot: maybe the #ubuntu-mate guys might know if they are known issues?
[19:54] <ioria> lotuspsychje, Hi Lotus
[19:54] <parrot> thanks
[19:54] <lotuspsychje> parrot: did you try updating bios firmware to latest?
[19:55] <explosive> !info libtiff4
[19:55] <lotuspsychje> ioria: hello mate :p
[19:55] <NKD> exit
[19:55] <explosive> !search libtiff4
[19:55] <Li> nicomachus: how to run it at least once?
[19:55] <ioria> !info !info libtiff5
[19:55] <ioria> !info libtiff5
[19:55] <Li> no conky manager appears on the dash
[19:55] <Li> find . -iname ".conky" -type f
[19:55] <nicomachus> Li: conky manager has to be installed from a PPA: sudo add-apt-repository ppa:teejee2008/ppa
[19:56] <Li> nothing at home
[19:56] <explosive> !info libtiff4 | precise
[19:56] <explosive> !info libtiff4 precise
[19:56] <Li> nicomachus: it was avaiable on the software center and I've installed from there
[19:56] <nicomachus> Li: Conky manager was?
[19:56] <Li> apt-get install conky conky-all
[19:56] <aurora_> may changing it to "acpi_osi=" help (with no "")?
[19:57] <Li> nicomachus: I thought that is manager ... isn't it?
[19:58] <OerHeks> conky-manager is a private project, https://launchpad.net/~teejee2008/+archive/ubuntu/ppa
[19:58] <explosive> Vas: you need to install libtiff4 somehow, it looks like it's not available for trusty anymore
[19:58] <OerHeks> http://www.itworld.com/article/2696428/install-conky-manager-2-1-in-ubuntu-14-04.html
[19:58] <Vas> explosive: any suggestions?
[19:59] <Bashing-om> aurora_: you need to add it with escaped quotes to GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX="...\"acpi_osi=Windows 2013\"" .. where 2013 is a result from the sudo strings command .
[19:59] <explosive> download the .deb and manually install it Vas
[19:59] <nicomachus> no, conky-manager is a separate project that just gives a GUI and helps you install themes, Li. It's really handy.
[19:59] <ioria> there is only the -dev package for trusty
[19:59] <ioria> !info libtiff4-dev trusty
[19:59] <Horo_horo> I've problem with java on ubuntu
[19:59] <Vas> explosive: http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?keywords=libtiff4 ?
[20:00] <livingroom> guys the #samba channel is dead does anyone here know anything about samba i'm having a devil of a time
[20:00] <lotuspsychje> !java | Horo_horo
[20:00] <OerHeks> livingroom, ask your question and find out ?
[20:01] <OerHeks> or come back tomorrow
[20:01] <akik> aurora_: on an acer laptop, i needed to use acpi_osi=Linux your mileage may vary
[20:01] <nicomachus> Li: this is what Conky Manager looks like: https://imgur.com/iXD9DQN
[20:01] <OerHeks> nicomachus, i think Li is reading my post about conkymanager + url
[20:01] <Vas> explosive: found this http://packages.ubuntu.com/trusty/libtiff4-dev
[20:02] <nicomachus> ah ok, OerHeks
[20:02] <Vas> would this one work?
[20:02] <OerHeks> nice tool indeed
[20:02] <livingroom> i am following the samba wiki howto, and it says to test DNS by running this command: $ host -t SRV _ldap._tcp.mydomain - when i run that command, i get "host _ldap._tcp.mydomain not foudn: 3(NXDOMAIN)
[20:03] <explosive> Vas: you need the libtiff4 package
[20:03] <aurora_> Bashing-om, the line i had was: GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT="quiet splash \"acpi_osi=Windows 2012\"" (i dident understand that last part with result from sudo srings command)
[20:03] <explosive> Vas: http://packages.ubuntu.com/precise/libtiff4
[20:03] <aurora_> akik, thanks for the tip
[20:04] <Li> this is what I deleted !!! GPG Password Agent
[20:04] <Bashing-om> aurora_: My XX:50 entry refers . Did you get it ?
[20:05] <aurora_> sorry, no. im guessing its some reference to coding of some sort. I read C/C++ in the 90's lol
[20:06] <Bashing-om> aurora_: 13:50 < Bashing-om> aurore_: ' sudo strings /sys/firmware/acpi/tables/DSDT | grep -i windows ' to identify the latest Windows version listed.
[20:06] <aurora_> aha!
[20:07] <Vas> explosive: thanks for the help man, gonna rest my case
[20:09] <aurora_> result is 2009, 2012, 2013. So i try to change it to 2013 again and reboot?
[20:09] <aurora_> got this error in terminal while gedit: (gedit:2888): Gtk-WARNING **: Calling Inhibit failed: GDBus.Error:org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.ServiceUnknown: The name org.gnome.SessionManager was not provided by any .service files
[20:10] <Bashing-om> aurora_: Worth a shot . remember to 'sudo update-grub' after the file is saved .
[20:11] <aurora_> Bashing-om, thanks =) i almost forgot it hehe
[20:11] <aurora_> reboot, brb
[20:11] <Bashing-om> aurora_: Been there, not done that ;)
[20:13] <aurora_> Bashing-om, back. dident work
[20:13] <livingroom> i am following the samba wiki howto, and it says to test DNS by running this command: $ host -t SRV _ldap._tcp.mydomain - when i run that command, i get "host _ldap._tcp.mydomain not foudn: 3(NXDOMAIN)" - any idea what i should do
[20:14] <Bashing-om> aurora_: Bummer. sorry, end of my experience . Perhaps others here can offer advise .
[20:14] <akik> livingroom: you don't have a srv record for _ldap._tcp.mydomain in your dns server. not sure if that's documented in the howto you're reading
[20:14] <aurora_> Bashing-om, big thanks for your effort. Much appreciated =)
[20:15] <alberto_> Hello everyone!
[20:15] <alberto_> :)
[20:15] <alberto_> How are you all?
[20:16] <Bashing-om> aurora_: :( No cookies for /me .
[20:16] <akik> aurora_: can you test with acpi_osi=Linux ?
[20:16] <alberto_> I have purged some PPAs with ppa-purge, but there are still some files in /etc/apt/sources.list.d/
[20:16] * aurora_ hands over a cookie to Bashing-om
[20:17] <aurora_> akik, about to do that now =)
[20:17] <alberto_> Should I delete them too?
[20:19] <akik> it was quite strange that from ubuntu version to the next, i needed those parameters. maybe there was no bug report created
[20:19] <akik> i mean for the lcd backlight
[20:19] <k1l_> alberto_: depends on what files there are
[20:19] <k1l_> alberto_: can you show a "ls -al /etc/apt/sources.list.d" in a pastebin?
[20:21] <alberto_> k1l_ http://pastebin.com/x36SaaGx
[20:22] <aurora_> back
[20:22] <k1l_> alberto_: there is still this PPA
[20:22] <aurora_> akik, sorry, dident work
[20:22] <akik> aurora_: you mentioned that you're using volume buttons for brightness? is this what works in windows?
[20:24] <aurora_> ah, no, the volume buttons work to change volume. its a FN+F10 and F11. but brightness buttons dont work, FN+F5 F6
[20:24] <alberto_> k1l_ I did "sudo ppa-purge ppa:xubuntu-dev/xfce-4.12"
[20:24] <sdegutis> Is it standard procedure to log stuff by just "echo foo >> /var/log/myapp/whatever.log" ?
[20:25] <alberto_> k1l_ And the output was "PPA purged successfully"
[20:25] <sdegutis> Also: Will the system automatically rotate that file when it gets too full, so that there will be whatever.log.1 and whatever.log will become empty?
[20:25] <aurora_> Should the brighness + and - be in Keyboard > Shortcuts ? Volume buttons are there
[20:25] <k1l_> alberto_: what is "cat /etc/apt/sources.list.d/xubuntu-dev-xfce-4_12-trusty.list"?
[20:27] <alberto_> k1l_ http://pastebin.com/MzML7dK3
[20:28] <bray90820> How good is apples magic mouse support in ubuntu
[20:30] <OerHeks> bray90820, works oootb here, multi finger etc ( 14.04-15.04-15.10)
[20:35] <crunch-choco> guys, does linux do well with power management (laptop)? few years ago it was not good, but i dont know what it become today
[20:37] <baizon> crunch-choco: its good :)
[20:37] <k1l_> alberto_: i thought it would remove that file too
[20:38] <alberto_> k1l_ Me too
[20:38] <crunch-choco> baizon, do i need to do any special tweaks?
[20:38] <crunch-choco> or is it good out of the box
[20:38] <baizon> crunch-choco: its good out of the box
[20:38] <MonkeyDust> crunch-choco ubuntu linux is very good
[20:38] <baizon> crunch-choco: else u can use a lightweight DE, so it need less cpu
[20:39] <MonkeyDust> crunch-choco http://www.noobslab.com/2013/07/how-to-improve-laptop-power-management.html
[20:39] <crunch-choco> any lightweight DE you would recommend? :D
[20:40] <ioria> alberto_, what command did you use to purge ?
[20:40] <crunch-choco> MonkeyDust, oh thanks!
[20:40] <bray90820> OerHeks: I have never had luck with it auto connecting and it also has really bad battery management aka it says it's dead when it's not and disconnects so I need to manually reconnect it
[20:41] <bray90820> have you seen any of those things?
[20:41] <bray90820> oh and the scrolling is way to fast
[20:41] <alberto_> ioria " sudo ppa-purge ppa:xubuntu-dev/xfce-4.12"
[20:41] <MonkeyDust> crunch-choco you wouldnt ask a vendor's opinion about his own product, would you
[20:42] <crunch-choco> MonkeyDust, not his own product, ubuntu is not lightweight at all to me hehe :D
[20:42] <ioria> alberto_ and you are on trusty ?
[20:44] <alberto__> Hello, I'm back, I got disconnected
[20:46] <k1l_> alberto__: are you on trusty?
[20:46] <alberto__> k1l_ Yes,
[20:47] <ganymede_> crunch-choco, Lubuntu (lxde) is the lightest major DE in terms of memory and disk space. You have to decide for yourself if it's any good.
[20:48] <ioria> alberto_ sudo ppa-purge ppa:xubuntu-dev/extras ?
[20:48] <alberto__> ioria I didn't try that
[20:49] <ioria> alberto_ you don't need it if you didn't sudo add-apt-repository ppa:xubuntu-dev/extras
[20:50] <alberto__> ioria So...Shall I purge that PPA?
[20:51] <ioria> alberto_ do you have it ? it'a complementary ppa for xfce
[20:51] <alberto__> ioria I do have it
[20:51] <ioria> weird
[20:53] <ioria> alberto_ try to remove it too
[20:53] <alberto__> ioria Actually, I did "sudo add-apt-repository ppa:xubuntu-dev/xfce-4.12"
[20:53] <alberto__> ioria And it added "ppa:xubuntu-dev/extras" as well
[20:53] <ioria> alberto_ try to remove it
[20:54] <Dewin> I'm periodically getting dmesg spam from various kernel filesystem drivers about failing to mount a particular partition, which is not listed in /etc/fstab nor is it the correct fs type for those filesystems. I suspect something is trying to autodetect settings, any idea where I'd poke around to change that?
[20:55] <Dewin> grub-install triggers it, but it's not the only thing that does.
[20:55] <alberto__> ioria http://pastebin.com/4bTy0Dxd
[20:56] <MonsieurBon> Hi
[20:57] <k1l_> alberto__: remove the # in that file in sources.list.d and run ppa-purge again.
[20:57] <sdegutis> Does `logrotate` watch for writes to the `/var/log` directory, in order to make sure no logs surpass their maximum file size? If not, how does it know?
[20:57] <alberto__> k1l_ Ok
[20:58] <MonsieurBon> Whenever I unlock my laptop I have to enter the password to unlock the mobile broadband device because "system policy prevents automatic unlock of the device". Can I change this policy somehow? It's a bit annoying if I have to unlock the device whenever I quickly go to standby....
[21:00] <alberto__> I thought removing a ppa was an easier task
[21:00] <alberto__> I thought all you had to do was going to Software Centre and delete it from there...
[21:01] <nicomachus> alberto__: it is, usually. Go to "additional software sources" in the System Settings GUI, select it, click "remove"
[21:01] <VictoriaXOXO> Q: Okay, so moving away from the "nouveau" driver to the "nvidia" driver did NOT fix tearing in videos and while scrolling fast. What would be the next logical step?
[21:01] <k1l_> alberto__: that just deletes the repo, but not the packages that were installed.
[21:02] <alberto__> k1l_ I did what you told me to do, but the file is still there (/etc/apt/sources.list.d)
[21:03] <k1l_> alberto__: removed the # in front of the lines? so now please run ppa-purge on that ppa again
[21:03] <alberto__> k1l_ PPA purged successfully
[21:04] <Furai> Did ubuntu just roll out upgrade for nvidia drivers?
[21:04] <alberto__> k1l_ By the way, I added the repo, but I never installed xfce 4.12
[21:04] <maxscam1> My SSD with Ubuntu installed disappeared. Is it worth trying to find it or should i return the computer?
[21:04] <Furai> Seriously? I've been fighting with the custom upgrade of drivers which I started like 3h ago. And then it turns out that I could just update the system. Wow.
[21:04] <Furai> At some point I wasn't able to start X.
[21:05] * Furai vents his frustration.
[21:05] <Furai> Sorry guys.
[21:06] <MonkeyDust> Furai nvidia doesnt like linux, blame nvidia
[21:07] <Furai> Anyway, next time there's update I'll know how to install it manually so I won't be stuck on some obsolete version for a year or so.
[21:09] <birdjesus> is there anyw way to make globam menu for gnome 3 like unity have?
[21:10] <skweek> I think my internal network card is failing, earlier there wasn't a wireless connection showing up in the network connection, can anyone tell me where on ubuntu wireless network configuration is handled?
[21:12] <VictoriaXOXO> (Asking again. Waited some time.) Q: Okay, so moving away from the "nouveau" driver to the "nvidia" driver did NOT fix tearing in videos and while scrolling fast. What would be the next logical step?
[21:12] <alberto__> In Ubuntu Software Centre, in Software Sources / Other Software there are two entries "Stand-alone" Provided by external software developers
[21:12] <alberto__> When I edit them: URI: http://extras.ubuntu.com/ubuntu
[21:14] <alberto__> Should I delete those entries?
[21:16] <maxscam1> My SSD with Ubuntu installed disappeared. Is it worth trying to find it or should i return the computer?
[21:16] <nicomachus> maxscam1: what do you mean "disappeared"?
[21:17] <ille> maxscam1: may your ssd is broken. can i think is a samsung ssd?
[21:17] <nirux> define disappeared.
[21:18] <maxscam1> nichomachus: I can see it in the BIOS SATA devices list. It had a Grub bootloader which was working fine until GRUB stopped showing up. Now I look at the computer's partitions and I can't see the SSD at all. Think I may have messed up the compatibility when I updated my linux kernel?
[21:18] <nicomachus> Is it mounted?
[21:19] <maxscam1> nicomachus: no. I am on a Live DVD and I open gparted and see only the HDD not the SSD
[21:19] <wopi> Hi, on a fresh Ubuntu 14.04 with Postfix, I have no logfiles, can somebody help to debug ?
[21:19] <maxscam1> ille: maybe/ It is kingston. It is a new computer though.
[21:19] <nicomachus> VictoriaXOXO: you may find this helpful: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2235382
[21:20] <guntbert> wopi: genreally you should state the concrete problem, if anybody can help they will
[21:20] <guntbert> *generally
[21:20] <VictoriaXOXO> nicomachus: Give me a minute to read.
[21:21] <wopi> guntbert: I expected to have my logs in /var/log/mail/... but there are not there, so I searched, and didn't found any mail related logs
[21:22] <VictoriaXOXO> nicomachus: Of course he/she doesn't tell me how to do the last step. "Save your configuration and restart the X-server."
[21:23] <VictoriaXOXO> I don't even know what "X-server" is. :/
[21:23] <Mati89> Hi! I have Nvidia Prime specific question. Is there any workaround to stop tearing in Unity desktop while using nvidia GPU ? tearing doesn't occur while using integrated chip.
[21:24] <Mati89> VSync is enabled in nvidia settings
[21:24] <preseeder> I am trying to preseed a mini iso with 15.10 downloaded from here -> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/MinimalCD . This is my preseed file -> http://hastebin.com/jukiyelanu.hs and these are the forms of txt.cfg i have tried -> http://hastebin.com/haquzuzuru.mel So far the mini iso will not use the preseed file for some reason.Does anyone have an idea why? is it not supported with mini iso's?
[21:24] <Pici> wopi: they're just in /var/log/mail.log
[21:24] <guntbert> wopi: postfix has it's log as /var/log/mail.log and /var/log/mail.err
[21:24] <nicomachus> VictoriaXOXO: if you're using regular Ubuntu, then restarting the X-server is simply `sudo restart lightdm`
[21:24] <wopi> guntbert: yes, that was what I expected, simple apt-get install postfix, then service postfix start, no modifications at all, and they are not there
[21:24] <VictoriaXOXO> nicomachus: Can I send you a pm?
[21:25] <nicomachus> VictoriaXOXO: not recommended. I'm not an expert, and it's better to chat in the channel so other's can correct me when I am (inevitably) wrong.
[21:25] <guntbert> wopi: no, *not* in /var/log/mail/, but in /var/log/
[21:25] <VictoriaXOXO> nicomachus: Oh. :(
[21:26] <nicomachus> you can fix it, have faith. :)
[21:26] <nicomachus> half the fun is in figuring out how.
[21:26] <OerHeks> VictoriaXOXO, what do you mean with "tearing in videos and while scrolling fast" ?
[21:26] <wopi> guntbert: they are nowhere in the /var/log tree
[21:27] <Mati89> VictoriaXOXO: are you using hybrid-gpu or just single nvidia card?
[21:27] <VictoriaXOXO> nicomachus: Stuck on first step. -- http://fpaste.org/292069/81978144/
[21:28] <VictoriaXOXO> OerHeks: You know that horizontal line that disrupts the video?
[21:28] <VictoriaXOXO> OerHeks: And scrolling fast up and down in Firefox.
[21:28] <VictoriaXOXO> Mati89: Single NVIDIA card.
[21:28] <OerHeks> scrolling/moving a window that is playing video in a browser or mediaplayer can give some effects, sounds plausible.
[21:28] <guntbert> wopi: does this help? https://askubuntu.com/questions/394724/where-are-the-postfix-log-files
[21:28] <VictoriaXOXO> OerHeks: I don't even have to move it. Fullscreen VLC movie tears badly. :(
[21:29] <Mati89> VictoriaXOXO: I've got a tearing fix, but that was KDE4 specific, I don't know if it applies for Ubuntu's desktop environment. You can try it out. Must find it, sec
[21:29] <VictoriaXOXO> Q: This can't be good? http://fpaste.org/292069/81978144/
[21:29] <wopi> guntbert: nope, I read related StackOverflow and AskUbuntu questions
[21:29] <VictoriaXOXO> Mati89: I'll bookmark it. Thanks.
[21:29] <wopi> guntbert: I know how to move in the cli and examine files, but I'm new to postfix and Ubuntu (I use debian on daily basis)
[21:31] <VictoriaXOXO> nicomachus: OerHeks: What on earth is going on here? http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/13334953/
[21:31] <guntbert> wopi: sorry to be not able to help - bedtime
[21:31] <nicomachus> i'll defer to OerHeks.
[21:31] <k1l_> VictoriaXOXO: dont use sudo on gui programs
[21:32] <wopi> guntbert: thx
[21:32] <VictoriaXOXO> k1l_: Okay, I won't. But is that why I see those errors? :/
[21:33] <alberto__> I have the following entry in Ubuntu Software Centre: http://ppa.launchpad.net/xubuntu-dev/xfce-4.12/ubuntu
[21:33] <anon> Hi guys
[21:33] <alberto__> How can I remove it from terminal?
[21:33] <alberto__> sudo add-apt-repository --remove ppa:xubuntu-dev/xfce-4.12?
[21:34] <Guest20178> can anybody explain me why we as admin on own system everytime need to verify the pwd
[21:34] <k1l_> VictoriaXOXO: is it the right driver for your card? is it from the ubuntu repo installed?
[21:34] <shamis> verify the password when? each time you install something?
[21:34] <MonkeyDust> Guest20178 start from the beginning, what brings you here
[21:34] <Guest20178> yes
[21:34] <VictoriaXOXO> k1l_: It's from the additional drivers list. I just chose the one with the highest number.
[21:34] <Guest20178> instal or change
[21:35] <Guest20178> im new to linux btw
[21:35] <k1l_> Guest20178: yes, you need to give the password when using sudo.
[21:35] <Guest20178> but i love it and have respect for it
[21:35] <shamis> it's for safety of the system. to make sure nothing is installed or changed on the system that should be on there
[21:35] <MonkeyDust> Guest20178 it's normal
[21:35] <shamis> shouldn't*
[21:35] <Guest20178> that i know
[21:35] <Dewin> Guest20178: Security best practice says to run as an unprivileged user account unless you're doing something that actually requires privileges. 'sudo' on Linux (and its graphical equivalents) and UAC on Windows are mechanisms for implementing that.
[21:35] <Guest20178> but i mean 100 times a day
[21:36] <Guest20178> is little too much
[21:36] <Guest20178> since im new im curious and exploring everything
[21:36] <MonkeyDust> Guest20178 yes, everytime you change something to the system
[21:36] <shamis> depends on how often you are installing something or changing the system
[21:36] <k1l_> VictoriaXOXO: does your desktop work?
[21:36] <harduim> You can always su root
[21:36] <harduim> or sudo bash
[21:36] <k1l_> harduim: no
[21:36] <Pici> please no
[21:36] <harduim> =D
[21:36] <VictoriaXOXO> k1l_: Yes, everything works, but I can't live with the tearing in videos and while scrolling fast in my browser.
[21:37] <harduim> Yes you can, but you should not
[21:37] <Pici> Use sudo -i (or -s read the manpage) if you really need an interactive session.
[21:37] <Guest20178> maybe it depends on that i mess the system up ? because of my on knowledge
[21:37] <k1l_> harduim: that is bad advice. so please dont do that here on purpose to show that you are a "linux guru".
[21:37] <harduim> never release the kraken
[21:37] <shamis> it's all personal opinion I guess. I'd rather enter my pass 100 times a day for 100 different changes rather than not know what my system is doing to itself or what something else is doing to my system.
[21:37] <Guest20178> you never know what you can thrust these days
[21:37] <Guest20178> try that
[21:37] <shamis> ^
By all means, thats not what I intended to
[21:38] <Guest20178> true
[21:38] <Guest20178> me too
[21:38] <Guest20178> but then i need a more easy pwd
[21:38] <OerHeks> VictoriaXOXO, i just run updates, theer is a new nvidia driver available ..
[21:38] <shamis> you'll get used to it.
[21:38] <Seven_Six_Two> if you're doing repeated commands with sudo, your authorization will be valid for a while too. so 100 times a day is unlikely
[21:38] <Guest20178> nvidia suck
[21:38] <Guest20178> sorry
[21:38] <alberto__> How can I find out the name of a repository I have installed?
[21:38] <Guest20178> nothing personal but you know why
[21:39] <alberto__> From terminal
[21:39] <VictoriaXOXO> Q: Why do people start to help me and then just leave me when I answer them? :/
[21:39] <VictoriaXOXO> Yes, I'm a noob. Noobs can't get help?
[21:39] <alberto__> VictoriaXOXO What do you need to know?
[21:39] <OerHeks> Guest20178, please leave those unprofessional comments, thanks, see !guidelines
[21:39] <Guest20178> you cant instal a repo
[21:39] <Mati89> VictoriaXOXO: If VSync is turned on in nvidia settings and you still got tearing, try adding this line at the end of /etc/profile: export __GL_YIELD="USLEEP"
[21:39] <Seven_Six_Two> alberto_, I don't know if there's an official way, but you can look at the file /etc/apt/sources.list
Some times google is your best friend... But tell me what do you need?
[21:40] <VictoriaXOXO> alberto__: I want to get rid of the screen tearing while watching videos and scrolling up and down in Firefox.
[21:40] <k1l_> VictoriaXOXO: what card is it? what ubuntu exactly?
[21:40] <OerHeks> VictoriaXOXO, still don't have a clue what driver you use, i guess the open driver?
[21:40] <VictoriaXOXO> Mati89: I will try, soon.
[21:40] <VictoriaXOXO> k1l_: NVIDIA GeForce GTX 660 and Ubuntu 14.04.
[21:40] <VictoriaXOXO> 15.04.
[21:40] <VictoriaXOXO> XD
[21:41] <Mati89> VictoriaXOXO: restart X afterwards (or reboot)
[21:41] <VictoriaXOXO> OerHeks: No, I moved away from the open driver, because I thought it would fix it.
[21:41] <VictoriaXOXO> Mati89: I'll reboot once I try.
[21:41] <Guest20178> my system crash after the originel driver from my videocard
[21:41] <VictoriaXOXO> k1l_: Sorry about the confusion. Card is correct, but it's 14.04 LTS.
[21:41] <Guest20178> but fair enough, ubunto almost perfect
[21:42] <VictoriaXOXO> The bottom line is: I love my Ubuntu machine, but I refuse to live with screen tearing. Everything else I can solve.
[21:42] <k1l_> VictoriaXOXO: "dpkg -l | grep nvidia" in a pastebin please
[21:43] <alberto__> Seven_Six_Two That worked, I deleted the lines in /etc/apt/sources.list and now they're gone in Ubuntu Software Centre as well. Thank you.
[21:43] <VictoriaXOXO> k1l_: Uno momento.
[21:43] <Guest20178> anybody need sources ?
[21:43] <Guest20178> i got some :D:D
[21:44] <Guest20178> only thing i need to know is how to make a Cydia :D
[21:44] <Guest20178> for example
Take a loot at this, maybe that can help "http://www.diolinux.com.br/2015/10/como-remover-o-screen-tearing-no-ubuntu.html"
[21:44] <MonkeyDust> what's a cydia?
[21:44] <Guest20178> just kidding, all confusing
[21:44] <harduim> Its in portuguese BTW
[21:44] <Bernzel> Is cleaning a partition the same as formating a harddrive and deleting all data?
[21:44] <nirux> cydia is the software center for jailbrocken iOS devices.
Yes it is
[21:44] <VictoriaXOXO> k1l_: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/13335087/
[21:44] <Bernzel> fuck
[21:44] <Pici> Guest20178: Do you actually have an Ubuntu support question?
[21:45] <Pici> Bernzel: please mind your language here.
[21:45] <Guest20178> who ?
[21:45] <Guest20178> yes
[21:45] <Guest20178> and i had a nickname too
[21:45] <Bernzel> Pici sorry. I just removed 4 years of research...
What happened?
[21:45] <Guest20178> indeed what happend
[21:45] <k1l_> VictoriaXOXO: seems like you got a driver version missmatch there
[21:45] <Bernzel> harduim I removed 2tb of research data
[21:45] <VictoriaXOXO> k1l_: Oh? :o
[21:45] <Pici> Bernzel: Depending what you have done, there might be ways to recover.
[21:46] <Dewin> a) Don't panic, you might be able to recover depending on what else you did, b) You should have backups if it's important.
WOW, have you tried anything to recover?
[21:46] <longerstaff13> cheapie?
[21:46] <k1l_> VictoriaXOXO: ah no, the nvidia-346-updates links to the nvidia-352-updates. so thats ok.
[21:46] <k1l_> VictoriaXOXO: so did you just install it?
[21:46] <ToeSnacks> is there a way to show what true packages a virtual package will install with apt?
Just dont do anything with the drive right now maybe its recoverable
[21:46] <cheapie> longerstaff13: I see you're here. Go ahead and ask your question now, and hopefully somebody can help.
[21:47] <VictoriaXOXO> k1l_: I chose the driver with the highest number and then hit "Apply changes..." or whatever it is called.
[21:47] <VictoriaXOXO> k1l_: And rebooted.
[21:47] <k1l_> VictoriaXOXO: make a reboot to get all the new driver loaded correctly.
[21:47] <Bernzel> harduim , okey.. I'm terrified
[21:47] <VictoriaXOXO> k1l_: Reboot AGAIN?
[21:47] <Acerio> Afternoon.
[21:47] <k1l_> VictoriaXOXO: no
[21:47] <k1l_> VictoriaXOXO: so what is the issue now?
Calm down, what exactly happend ?
[21:48] <Mati89> VictoriaXOXO: did export __GL_YIELD="USLEEP" fix your issue?
[21:48] <VictoriaXOXO> k1l_: Bad tearing in videos and while scrolling up and down fast in Firefox.
[21:48] <VictoriaXOXO> Mati89: I haven't tried that, yet.
[21:48] <VictoriaXOXO> But will, soon.
[21:48] <anon__> there
[21:48] <anon__> but i dont believe my original nick is used....
[21:49] <Mati89> VictoriaXOXO: the other possible solution is to enable TripleBuffer, put it inside x.org conf. Fixed my tearing issues as well on various linux dists.
[21:49] <anon__> how can i be bleu
[21:49] <VictoriaXOXO> Mati89: Yes, I will sure try that one.
[21:49] <anon__> i cant register yet
[21:49] <OerHeks> VictoriaXOXO, follow k1l_ advise first, reinstal the nvidia driver properly.
[21:49] <k1l_> VictoriaXOXO: try to logout again and back in
[21:49] <Bernzel> hardium , I was going to reinstall windows and followed this guide http://www.disk-partition.com/articles/selected-disk-is-gpt-partition-style.html becuase there was no partition I could install windows on. And it appeared that the drive containing all the valuable data was partition as 0, same as the system drive I was going to clean. So I cleaned both since they both were marked as 0
[21:49] <longerstaff13> : it may be a faulty hard disk or USB drive
[21:49] <k1l_> maybe it needs to use your just set xorg.conf
[21:50] <Dewin> Bernzel: What exactly were you doing when you selected drives to "clean"?
[21:50] <VictoriaXOXO> OerHeks: I am following his advice, but I haven't seen him telling me to reinstall.
[21:50] <VictoriaXOXO> k1l_: Be right back then.
[21:50] <Dewin> Was it the 'diskpart clean' bit?
Could you please join #ubuntu-mate channel? Here its a little chaotic
[21:51] <Bernzel> hardium , im in
[21:51] <longerstaff13> my computer says that there is an error while copying files to my hard disk
[21:52] <Acerio> longerstaff13: Copy the error? Your HDD just might be old, or has failed.
[21:52] <VictoriaXOXO> k1l_: Uh-oh. This is bad. Extremely low resolution now!
[21:53] <Acerio> longerstaff13: If that is the case, get another HDD and possibly use RAID in case it happens again.
[21:53] <longerstaff13> ok :)
[21:54] <VictoriaXOXO> k1l_: I will give you 37 imaginary cookies and coffee if you help me through this. Please don't leave me now.
[21:54] <OerHeks> longerstaff13, pastebin the errors, and have a look, before you buy a new hdd
[21:54] <Acerio> OerHeks: Just said that :P
[21:54] <alberto__> What other files, apart from sources.list are there in /etc/apt?
[21:54] <longerstaff13> all the files on the setup
[21:54] <k1l_> VictoriaXOXO: can you open the nvidia-settings program?
[21:54] <alberto__> I think I accidentally deleted them :(
[21:55] <dnl> hi all
[21:55] <Acerio> Hello dnl.
[21:55] <VictoriaXOXO> k1l_: From terminal and without sudo?
[21:55] <dnl> i'm having problems with my wifi.. sometime work sometimes stops working
[21:55] <tummi> hi@all
[21:55] <dnl> any suggestions??
[21:55] <Acerio> dnl: Can you ping google?
[21:55] <k1l_> VictoriaXOXO: from programs
[21:56] <kylebalkissoon> is there a reason xorg should be using 7gb of ram?
[21:56] <VictoriaXOXO> k1l_: I just did. The entire left list is almost empty now. :(
[21:56] <dnl> Acerio, it scans the wifi netowks.. but dont connect
[21:56] <Acerio> kylebalkissoon: Use something else then? Perhaps Nvidia drivers, if you use a Nvidia card.
[21:56] <dnl> sometimes works... but sometimes stop working
[21:56] <Acerio> dnl: Perhaps, you don't have a WiFi driver installed!
[21:57] <dnl> Acerio, hum.. it's stange because why sometimes works??
[21:57] <Acerio> dnl: Type "ls /sys/class/net", and look up documentation on the card it says you have.
[21:57] <OerHeks> kylebalkissoon, xorg.log ? if so, there is a big error going on
[21:57] <Acerio> That might be a Arch dir, but I am pretty sure it works for Ubuntu as well.
[21:57] <k1l_> VictoriaXOXO: hmmm.
[21:58] <VictoriaXOXO> k1l_: Did I just trash my PC? :(
[21:58] <kylebalkissoon> thanks OerHeks i'm gonna look into it
[21:58] <k1l_> VictoriaXOXO: i am not a video guy. but try removing that xorg.conf again and try a reboot. need to sort out if that is the issue
[21:58] <feefrench> I'm tire of USA president spreading terrorist to my country france
[21:59] <mircx1> Hi i, You Are In My Friends List (ArthasScript)
[21:59] <mircx1> Info Line For i, NOTSET (ArthasScript)
[21:59] <Acerio> feefrench: #ubuntu-offtopic please.
[21:59] <VictoriaXOXO> k1l_: And there's just one xorg.conf file and in one location?
[21:59] <kylebalkissoon> OerHeks, is there something I should looking for?
[21:59] <waressearcher2> is ubuntu vulnerable to blind icmp-reset attack ?
[22:00] <OerHeks> kylebalkissoon, use tail to see the end of the log, that could be enough to find out
[22:00] <k1l_> VictoriaXOXO: try a "sudo mv /etc/X11/xorg.conf /etc/X11/xorg.conf.backup"
[22:00] <kylebalkissoon> OerHeks, yeah, I found an EQ overflowing
[22:00] <VictoriaXOXO> k1l_: Okay. One moment, please.
[22:00] <Sewerrat> how the hell do i remove ubuntu??
[22:01] <VictoriaXOXO> k1l_: No errors. I guess it worked?
[22:01] <ubuntu673> @sewerrat, install another operating system
[22:01] <k1l_> VictoriaXOXO: reboot
[22:01] <nicomachus> !language | Sewerrat
[22:01] <VictoriaXOXO> k1l_: Okay. Be right back!
[22:01] <MonkeyDust> Sewerrat use your installation device (dvd, usb), run gparted, delete ubuntu partition
[22:02] <Sewerrat> Monkeydust, i did that but it wont recognize any usb
[22:02] <MonkeyDust> Sewerrat "it"?
[22:02] <anon_> you will recognize me
[22:02] <anon_> if you think back
[22:02] <Sewerrat> the pc
[22:02] <anon_> even then i would't register
[22:03] <anon_> because you never know what is save
[22:03] <anon_> even this
[22:03] <anon_> and i want a bleu name :)
[22:03] <ubuntu673> Sewerrat, copy all files to another hard disk and format the hard disk with ubuntu
[22:03] <anon_> beter copy it to a external disk
[22:03] <anon_> then you got it with you all the time
[22:03] <Mati89> So, back to my nvidia prime tearing issue. Any workarounds for tearing in desktop while using nvidia gpu?
[22:03] <k1l_> waressearcher2: is there a cve for that?
[22:04] <ubuntu673> an external disk is a hard disk too, <anon>
[22:04] <Mati89> the same applies 3D applications, tearing regardless of settings
[22:04] <anon_> i dont know nothing about linux sorry
[22:04] <anon_> im just learning
[22:04] <Sewerrat> harddrives are wiped already with gparted , i only get reboot and select proper boot device or insert boot media in selected boot device and press a key
[22:04] <VictoriaXOXO> k1l_: Okay, the resolution is back to normal (thank k1l_ for that), but the tearing is still present.
[22:04] <k1l_> anon_: name coloring of your client is random.
[22:04] <anon_> yeah
[22:05] <anon_> i had the same problem
[22:05] <anon_> you guys like information right ? :P
[22:05] <anon_> enjoy :D
[22:05] <k1l_> VictoriaXOXO: no open nvidia-settings from programs search
[22:05] <ubuntu673> Sewerrat, reboot and select proper boot device like the message says
[22:06] <mikeliss> Anybody have any ideas why the PPA of Firefox's Nightly builds doesn't update my installation? The PPA is at version 45a1 and my system is still at 44a1.
[22:06] <VictoriaXOXO> k1l_: Done. The left list is populated again.
[22:06] <k1l_> Sewerrat: just install a new OS you like. done
[22:06] <pedro_> Wps
[22:06] <ubuntu673> Sewerrat, what install device do you use, a dvd, a cd or an usb stick?
[22:06] <Sewerrat> Usb stick!
[22:07] <edoderoo> ls ... what is the trick to make a shorter access to a folder, now I have /owncloud/users/xslist/sourcecode/python/projects/filelist and would like to access that with just /shortcut
[22:07] <anon_> ow damn, my mistake :P
[22:07] <ubuntu673> try a dvd if you have a dvd player in your computer
[22:07] <alberto__> Why do I get this output when I type "sudo apt-get update"?
[22:07] <alberto__> http://pastebin.com/HdUnh26h
[22:07] <k1l_> alberto__: no new updates on that servers
[22:08] <ubuntu673> alberto, because you use a Spanish version of ubuntu
[22:08] <Mati89> edoderoo: create softlink maybe?
[22:08] <anon_> tt
[22:08] <joseph_> hello world... anybody using zorin?
[22:09] <Double> im from out space
[22:09] <joseph_> really? what planet?
[22:09] <alberto__> ubuntu673 Yes, but why does it say "Ignoring" or "Ignored"?
[22:09] <ubuntu673> who says outer space contains planets?
[22:09] <Spec-Chum> there is no zorin, only zuul
[22:09] <Li> im from alt
[22:09] <k1l_> !ot | Double
[22:10] <VictoriaXOXO> k1l_: What am I looking for in there? If you told me, I missed it.
[22:10] <k1l_> joseph_: see the zorin channels for help on that
[22:10] <ubuntu673> alberto, I don't have a clue
[22:10] <joseph_> send me the link to join it,
[22:10] <joseph_> please
[22:11] <edoderoo> splendid, Mati89
[22:11] <k1l_> joseph_: #zorinos
[22:11] <preseeder> I am trying to preseed a mini iso with 15.10 downloaded from here -> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/MinimalCD . This is my preseed file -> http://hastebin.com/jukiyelanu.hs and these are the forms of txt.cfg i have tried -> http://hastebin.com/haquzuzuru.mel So far the mini iso will not use the preseed file for some reason.Does anyone have an idea why? is it not supported with mini iso's?
[22:11] <ubuntu673> what is your question about zorin, joseph?
[22:11] <alberto__> Could you please tell me how many files there are in your /etc/apt directory?
[22:12] <ubuntu673> alberto, who?
[22:12] <k1l_> VictoriaXOXO: try to set it like you want regarding . then save the configuration
[22:12] <VictoriaXOXO> k1l_: Hmm. Okay.
[22:12] <k1l_> VictoriaXOXO: *regarding resolution etc.
[22:13] <alberto__> Any of you. I think I accidentally deleted files in that directory and I don't know which ones.
[22:13] <VictoriaXOXO> k1l_: Give me a minute. :)
[22:13] <alberto__> I've got three files and four directories.
[22:15] <VictoriaXOXO> k1l_: Okay, so I manually set 1920x1080@60 and saved it. New and fresh xorg.conf appeared in the /etc/X11 folder.
[22:15] <ubuntu673> @alberto, I can't help you
[22:16] <k1l_> VictoriaXOXO: ok. try relogin
[22:16] <VictoriaXOXO> k1l_: Be right back.
[22:16] <VictoriaXOXO> (Logging)
[22:16] <NightKhaos> I'm getting a hash some mismatch when updating from security.ubuntu.com?
[22:17] <k1l_> NightKhaos: just wait some time to let the server get in sync again
[22:18] <VictoriaXOXO> k1l_: Done. What would the next step be if the tearing is still present? (It is.)
[22:18] <NightKhaos> k1l_: Ahh, yep. Just tried again. It's synced now.
[22:19] <k1l_> VictoriaXOXO: dont know. please show the result of: lspci -nnk | grep -i vga -A3 | grep 'in use'
[22:20] <Mati89> VictoriaXOXO: you can try adding following in x.org conf: Option "TripleBuffer" "True" if not present under device section
[22:20] <VictoriaXOXO> k1l_: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/13335489/
[22:20] <VictoriaXOXO> Mati89: Wait. Is it xorg.conf or x.org.conf? :/
[22:20] <k1l_> VictoriaXOXO: hmm. ok, so the nvidia driver is in use. maybe some nvidia guys knows more about that card and issues
[22:21] <VictoriaXOXO> k1l_: Oh, no. If YOU don't know, then... Guuuulp.
[22:22] <Mati89> VictoriaXOXO: xorg.conf - you should have all nvidia related settings there
[22:22] <VictoriaXOXO> Mati89: Did you find what you were looking for?
[22:22] <ubuntu673> good luck, Victoria
[22:22] <VictoriaXOXO> ubuntu673: Thanks. I need it.
[22:23] <VictoriaXOXO> k1l_: Mati89: Can I just add lines to that xorg.conf file while it's "in use" or do I have to stop things first?
[22:24] <Mati89> VictoriaXOXO: you can add that line in use
[22:24] <VictoriaXOXO> Mati89: When is it applied? After reboot?
[22:24] <ubuntu673> maybe a restart is needed after saving the file with the extra lines
[22:24] <Mati89> VictoriaXOXO: it should be inserted inside Section "Device" before Section end.
[22:25] <Mati89> VictoriaXOXO: yes.
[22:25] <VictoriaXOXO> Mati89: Yes, I'm looking at a guide that is telling me the same thing, with his example file.
[22:25] <VictoriaXOXO> I hate having to reboot all the time when my encryption passphrase is like 78 long. :P
[22:25] <ubuntu673> you need to save the file after adding the extra lines and reboot, Victoria
[22:26] <VictoriaXOXO> I will do that.
[22:26] <Mati89> VictoriaXOXO: this might do the trick :) let's hope so
[22:26] <ubuntu673> maybe it is possible to copy the encrypted passphrae of 78 character, Victoria
[22:26] <VictoriaXOXO> Mati89: I'll go nuts of happiness if it fixes the tearing.
[22:27] <VictoriaXOXO> ubuntu673: What do you mean?
[22:27] <ubuntu673> Victoria, maybe you can serve some candy
[22:28] <ubuntu673> like copy the passphrase and paste it in the password window
[22:29] <VictoriaXOXO> ubuntu673: Copy it from where? :|
[22:29] <VictoriaXOXO> And there's no window or dialog box. I remove the stupid "quiet splash" line.
[22:29] <VictoriaXOXO> removed*
[22:30] <linuxey> Fairly simple question... to cleanly update my 14.04.2 OS to the latest supported packages.... would i just add in the latest 14.04.3 repo to souces and dist-upgrade against that? Or is there a "better" updates repo?
[22:31] <ubuntu673> good luck with typing your encrypted pass phrase of 78 characters, Victoria
[22:31] <VictoriaXOXO> XD
[22:31] <k1l_> linuxey: on ubuntu you dont fiddle with the repos
[22:31] <linuxey> I have to fiddle
[22:31] <k1l_> linuxey: just run "sudo apt update && sudo apt full-upgrade" that will bring you on the latest state of all packages
[22:32] <linuxey> I am supporting offline deployments with local mirrors
[22:32] <linuxey> I dont need commands as much as I do the proper source repo
[22:32] <k1l_> linuxey: 14.04.2 is just a point release. its like the servicepacks on windows. there is no 14.04.2 repo.
[22:32] <k1l_> linuxey: there is no extra repo. its all the same repo.
[22:32] <Li> for some unknown reason! skype on my ubuntu showing numbers in hindi digits!!!
[22:33] <Li> how to change that to normal numbers just like the rest of the system apps
[22:33] <ubuntu673> Li, change the language and numbers style and fonts
[22:33] <Li> ubuntu673: where is that?
[22:34] <ubuntu673> Victoria, does it work?
[22:34] <linuxey> k1l: No.. there is - I have the DVD rip / install repo, then additional packages from trusty/main installed. So I can see - maybe just the trusty main, universe, blah is the latest updates for 14.04.x
[22:34] <VictoriaXOXO> ubuntu673: Does what work?
[22:34] <ubuntu673> does your computer work the way you want and is your screen okay?
[22:34] <VictoriaXOXO> Everything is just fine except for the tearing.
[22:35] <howlymowly> hi everyone .... short question: I have installed ubuntu without any problems alongside windows10. both systems are working as intendet.. only grub is not boot ed automatically I can only get into the installed ubuntu when I do "sudo efibootmgr -n 0003 " to make the uefi automatically start my ubuntu partition on next boot but as soon as I reboot this setting is deleted and I have to do all of this again
[22:35] <ubuntu673> so you didn't manage to fix the tearing yet
[22:35] <VictoriaXOXO> ubuntu673: Not yet.
[22:35] <k1l_> linuxey: there is just one 14.04 repo. and the 14.04.2 or 14.04.3 are just including the state for the time when the 14.04.2 was released. so you dont have to udpate 2GB of data after the install
[22:35] <howlymowly> how do I automatically make it boot into grub?
[22:36] <k1l_> linuxey: so, update your local mirror with the latest state of trusty and its got the 14.04.3 state. (plus the updates from the 14.,04.3 release untill now)
[22:36] <linuxey> i got it. thanks
[22:37] <anon_> wat heb ik je gezegd
[22:37] <linuxey> So what I will have to do is track the updates I use and download them to the local repo
[22:37] <anon_> Verander men naam terug of ik doe het zelf en vragen ze weer indendificatie
[22:37] <anon_> so
[22:37] <anon_> info if free
[22:37] <k1l_> !be | anon_
[22:37] <linuxey> My master repo has internet access
[22:38] <ubuntu673> wat is er met je naam, anon?
[22:38] <Mati89> VictoriaXOXO: Did triple buffering and "profile" workaround worked out?
[22:38] <anon_> Verkeerd geschreven
[22:39] <k1l_> anon_: ubuntu673 #ubuntu-be for that please. this channel is english only
[22:39] <ubuntu673> Victoria, maybe you can install Ubuntu again to solve the tearing issue
[22:39] <MonkeyDust> guys, i'm dutch speaking too, keep it English here
[22:39] <VictoriaXOXO> Mati89: I haven't tried yet, but what do you mean with "profile" workaround? What have I forgotten now?
[22:39] <ubuntu673> hello Monkeydust
[22:40] <anon_> nee nu als Anon
[22:40] <anon_> ;)
[22:40] <ubuntu673> Victoria, maybe it is an easy solution to install Ubuntu again
[22:40] <MonkeyDust> anon_ stop
[22:40] <Acerio> anon_: Please speak English
[22:40] <Mati89> VictoriaXOXO: if the triple buffer option doesn't solve tearing, you can still try adding the export __GL_YIELD="USLEEP" line in /etc/profile
[22:41] <anon_> ok dan..
[22:41] <VictoriaXOXO> Mati89: Oh, so that's what "profile" workaround means. :P I get it now.
[22:41] <anon_> i will speak english
[22:41] <VictoriaXOXO> Mati89: Did you have to do that? What does it do?
[22:41] <anon_> invite me in channel
[22:41] <Mati89> VictoriaXOXO: Indeed :D, it may work as well
[22:41] <anon_> then i leave in 1 min i promise...
[22:41] <Guest74193> hello guys, need help with updates .. says that update information is outdated.
[22:41] <k1l_> anon_: #ubuntu-be
[22:42] <ubuntu673> anon_, please don't leave
[22:42] <anon_> why not
[22:42] <k1l_> Guest74193: what is "lsb_release -d" ?
[22:42] <MonkeyDust> anon_ ubuntu673 this is the support channel, confine yourself to support questions
[22:42] <Mati89> VictoriaXOXO: Yes, I have to do that on my Archlinux with KDE4 and NVIDIA gpu to remove all tearing.
[22:42] <anon_> im just here for some info
[22:42] <anon_> that i was
[22:43] <VictoriaXOXO> Mati89: What exactly does it do?
[22:43] <anon_> i was asking why ubunto ask me so much pwd
[22:43] <anon_> and im trying to help
[22:43] <anon_> but you guys looked me up...
[22:43] <MonkeyDust> anon_ for security reasons
[22:43] <k1l_> anon_: stop that chatting in here. please keep this channel to ubuntu support only. its unfair for the other users who need help
[22:44] * OerHeks never got that much warnings being offtopic
[22:44] <Mati89> VictoriaXOXO: what I understood, it enables vsync on startup and makes it persistent. I don't know the exact mechanism behind it, but it solved my tearing issue. It may work in Ubuntu as well.
[22:45] <ubuntu673> Victoria, just install Ubuntu again
[22:45] <k1l_> ubuntu673: that is not helpfull
[22:45] <harduim> Not at all
[22:46] <ubuntu673> it might solve her issue, k1l_, because a fresh installation might not have the tearing issue
[22:46] <Mati89> ubuntu673: reinstalling won't solve that issue at all.
[22:46] <k1l_> ubuntu673: no. it wont help with tearing.
[22:47] <j0hnsm1th> hi, what i want to achieve is have a directory which cannot be renamed by a user, but all the files within it are read/writable - the problem i have run into is that if i set a directory as readonly the immediate children of that directory are also all readonly
[22:47] <Mati89> VictoriaXOXO: anyway, that line is not harmful at all, it's just exporting the following option which shall prevent tearing so give it a try.
[22:47] <VictoriaXOXO> Mati89: I will. Thanks. :)
[22:48] <Mati89> VictoriaXOXO: np. I will google around for my tearing problems now
[22:50] <MonkeyDust> j0hnsm1th i tried it with a single file, sudo chown did the job
[22:56] <ubuntu673> how do I hide the notifications of this chat?
[22:57] <edoderoo> might depend on your client
[22:57] <ikonia> !notifications | ubuntu673
[22:57] <edoderoo> !notifications
[22:57] <OerHeks> depends on the irc client http://wiki.xkcd.com/irc/Hide_join_part_messages
[22:58] <ubuntu673> !notifications
[22:58] <edoderoo> ubottu Sorry, I don't know anything about notifications
[22:58] <ikonia> thank you, it seems ubottu is lagging
[22:58] <edoderoo> abotta .. you're only a women ... I know enough
[22:59] <OerHeks> ikonia, found it, the command = !quietirc
[22:59] <ikonia> just found it myself
[23:00] <ikonia> it's lagging quite hard, so not quick on the responses at the moment
[23:00] <anon_> busy
[23:00] <edoderoo> wikipedia.EditConflict
[23:01] <ubuntu673> !quietirc
[23:01] <ubuntu673> thanks everybody for the suggestions
[23:01] <edoderoo> ubottu sounds like an Italian name
[23:03] <owen1> i installed jenkins and it looks like it's not creating /home/jenkins folder. can i just mkdir this missing folder+
[23:03] <owen1> ?
[23:04] <edoderoo> add sudo in front of mkdir
[23:04] <owen1> edoderoo: ok. i tried 'mkhomedir_helper jenkins' but nothing happened
[23:04] <edoderoo> but is jenkins a username?
[23:05] <owen1> jenkins:x:107:111:Jenkins,,,:/var/lib/jenkins:/bin/bash
[23:06] <owen1> edoderoo: ^
[23:06] <n8s> hi all
[23:07] <n8s> is this the correct channel to ask for a bit of help?
[23:07] <daftykins> yes
[23:07] <VictoriaXOXO> Well, if you need help with Ubuntu. :P
[23:07] <n8s> ok, this may be not specific enough, but let me try
[23:08] <Guest95260> evening
[23:08] <Guest95260> how's everyone doing?
[23:08] <daftykins> Guest95260: not a chat channel, support only.
[23:08] <n8s> i'm currently trying to move from windows 10 and embrace linux, i've recently began to care about privacy and open source software
[23:08] <Guest95260> good to know thanks
[23:09] <daftykins> n8s: really just the support question and not the life story might be best :)
[23:09] <n8s> i'ts been a month now working with ubuntu both in laptop and desktop, so far im happy BUT (here comes the question, sorry but background is very much needed)
[23:10] <n8s> i've had quite a few "mini" problems, with nautilus, virtualization... several annoyances
[23:10] <n8s> so i'd like to ask
[23:10] <n8s> will this "annoyances" dissapear once i go with the LTS on the next release?
[23:10] * daftykins waits for the question mark to be used
[23:11] <daftykins> we still have no idea what you're talking about n8s - so how could we comment on knowing when things would change?
[23:12] <n8s> im sorry but it's not a specific question, if it can be, it would be something like. Is ubuntu LTS more stable than the intermediate releases?
[23:13] <k1l_> n8s: boths are pretty stable. but the focus is a bit more on LTS since it got 5 years support.
[23:14] <k1l_> n8s: but that is no guarantee that LTS doesnt have any issues for you. so best is to see what specific issues there are and how to solve them
[23:14] <ubuntu673> probably not, n8s
[23:14] <n8s> right now for example, i cant delete files from drives when accesing them through a symlink on nautilus, it crashes
[23:15] <n8s> also, installing vmware player turned my system very unstable
[23:15] <ubuntu673> so delete files using the console, n8s
[23:15] <ubuntu673> do you need the vmware player, n8s?
[23:15] <k1l_> for vmware issues talk to them. its prop. software and we cant do anything about that.
[23:15] <n8s> i've already found a workaround, but anyway, it's just an example, is this the current desktop experience for linux?
[23:16] <n8s> i need virtualization, and i need good 2d acceleration, vmware worked fine in windows for me
[23:16] <ubuntu673> linux and ubuntu are usually seen as very stable operating systems, n8s, maybe you can reinstall your ubuntu
You really like telling people to reinstall, dont you?
[23:17] <n8s> actually my desktop install is very recent, and honestly reinstalling sound too much like windows... been there already, i'd rather try to work it out
[23:18] <Ben64> n8s: you need to explain the problem better
[23:19] <NoteOn> hi, ubuntu-studio 15.04 jack to alsa no sound
He's advising reinstall for everyone
[23:19] <NoteOn> its xfcce and checked termial alsamixer but can't find issue
[23:19] <ubuntu673> maybe your vmware player isn't installed correctly, n8s, you can try to install it again
[23:19] <ubuntu673> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VMware/Player m8s
[23:20] <k1l_> n8s: desktop is working very fine for me.
[23:20] <n8s> Ben64, i know, but it's been a bunch of problems, never a big one, but anyway nothing like a "clean" experience
[23:20] <NoteOn> when LMMS setup to alsa (not jack) sound is ok. so seems not xfce's volume control part
[23:20] <harduim> What do you guys think about these systemd dilemma?
[23:20] <ubuntu673> harduim, a fresh installation solves lots of issues
[23:20] <Ben64> n8s: theres no way you can get help here without explaining a problem
[23:20] <n8s> i wonder if this is more an unity problem maybe? is unity less stable than others?
[23:21] <profanity> short question. if i type "$ find" in terminal in a specified directory, it lists all files in there, but what to i do to see the file extensions?
And a new computer also...
[23:21] <k1l_> n8s: no, unity is fine
[23:21] <Ben64> profanity: not every file has an extension, they're not really needed in linux
[23:22] <k1l_> ubuntu673: stop advising reinstall for every issue.
[23:22] <n8s> Ben64, i was just looking for some feedback on stability for production use in desktop from people already using it since long ago.
[23:22] <profanity> @Ben64 im trying to ease a prossess in a game. it has 8 files, 7 of them is "data" and 1 is "ascii"
[23:22] <linuxey> profanity: perhaps you are looking for a certain file type? Do you want something like: find . -type f -name *.tar ?
[23:22] <ubuntu673> k1l_, that command puts an end to my solution for all problems
[23:23] <n8s> Ben64, but here comes a precise question, this really annoys me. Whenever i install an application, 80% of the times, i have to log out and back in for the unity dash to find it. Is there a way for it to auto refresh the apps?
[23:23] <Ben64> n8s: this isn't really the channel to poll people
[23:23] <ubuntu673> n8s, are you talking about ubuntu?
[23:24] <n8s> ubuntu673, yes, ubuntu 15.10 all updated
[23:24] <profanity> @linuxey i dont know what the filetype is, i only need to find out wich file is usable instead of using $ file /directory/file1 and upwwards
[23:24] <Ben64> n8s: ah ok good question. I don't use unity so I can't really test that here
I'm using for since day 1 without any major problem
[23:25] <VictoriaXOXO> Q: Does anyone in here know what "Option "RegistryDwords" "PerfLevelSrc=0x2222"" in xorg.conf does?
[23:25] <Ben64> profanity: can you explain exactly what you want to accomplish
Any progress?
[23:26] <n8s> Ben64, thanks anyway. Anyone else can help with the refresh menu problem?
[23:26] <ubuntu673> k1l_, are you a mod in this irc?
[23:26] <ki7mt> n8s, First off, IMHO, production use and short term supported release(s) do not go together well. It's ok for testing, but my rule is, LTS for production, and the interim releases for testing only.
[23:26] <Ben64> n8s: maybe someone here knows, wait around and see
[23:26] <k1l_> ubuntu673: does it matter? just telling everyone to reinstall is not helpfull. stop that
[23:26] <Ben64> ubuntu673: it doesn't matter who is or isn't a mod. telling everyone to reinstall is bad support
[23:26] <profanity> @Ben64 i want to find an unknown textfile between several other files in a directory in one command, instead of checking all files separately
[23:27] <profanity> @Ben64 if its possible, that is:P
[23:27] <VictoriaXOXO> harduim: I want to know what "Option "RegistryDwords" "PerfLevelSrc=0x2222" does first. :P
[23:27] <n8s> ki7mt, i agree with you, but when i decided to jump in the train, 15.10 is what i found
[23:27] <kisb> grep?
[23:27] <ubuntu673> k1l_, yes, it matters, because giving a command without being a mod is acting like a mod although the advice is helpful
I dont know =P
[23:27] <kitkat> Yo playa hata
[23:27] <linuxey> profanity: without more info, I can guess that maybe you want to iterate over the files you find. Try using -exec with find. % find . -type f -exec file {} \; and then a filter on the file query
[23:27] <Ben64> profanity: it sure is. "find -type f -exec file {} \;"
[23:27] <ki7mt> n8s, yeah, that happens, but I think I'd look at re-imaging to 14.04 LTS and testing on 15.10, but that's just me.
[23:28] <wryfi> in trusty, how do i get ubuntu to reconfigure my interfaces based on what's in /etc/network/interfaces? (e.g. an equivalent of the old `/etc/init.d/networking restart` which now seems to do nothing)
[23:28] <kitkat> Wuz up ya all
[23:28] <kitkat> Im setting servers
[23:29] <Ben64> wryfi: sudo service networking restart
[23:29] <wryfi> Ben64: does nothing
[23:29] <Ben64> note that it's not the same as /etc/init.d/...
[23:29] <linuxey> and ifdown eth1;ifup eth1 ?
[23:29] <kitkat> Setting up servers for my new cloud service
[23:29] <profanity> Thats it @linuxey and @Ben64. thanks, that helped! now i just need to learn why:P (reading up on -exec and -type
[23:29] <n8s> ki7mt, but wouldnt 14.04 be now "too old"? maybe i'm wrong and its not that outdated
[23:29] <linuxey> sorry Ben64: ifdown/ifup
[23:30] <Ben64> profanity: man find
[23:30] <Ben64> profanity: tons of good stuff in there
[23:30] <kitkat> Apaches lacking a lot
[23:30] <Mati89> VictoriaXOXO: those are performance level settings of your GPU.
[23:30] <linuxey> Ben64: nice. the ol RTFM answer ;)
[23:30] <profanity> i figured:P man and -h or --help
[23:30] <daftykins> kitkat: you're making conversation more than you are finding specific support questions, so you may want to move to #ubuntu-offtopic
[23:31] <Ben64> linuxey: hey, gave an answer AND how to find more answers :)
[23:31] <VictoriaXOXO> Mati89: Why did a guide about tearing tell me about that line? :/
[23:31] <Anon_Elite> #it wasnt you
[23:31] <thetrav> I have two identical machines here, (one digit off in serial number) with network cables plugged into the same port on each... One of them labels the Nic as eth2 the other eth5. Does anyone know where I can read up on how ubuntu decides on that label?
[23:31] <linuxey> profanity: remenber - if you're on a newer Ubuntu version, you can tab complete many commands to get next args
[23:31] <ki7mt> n8s, For me, no, not at all, it's the latest LTS release, and has support to like mid-2019 or something like that.
[23:31] <Mati89> VictoriaXOXO: I have not idea.. this option have nothing to do with vsync
[23:31] <Mati89> no*
[23:31] <VictoriaXOXO> Mati89: Hmm. I'll skip it then.
[23:32] <kitkat> Ppl shouldnt troll me
[23:32] <howlymowly> hi evryone.. short question: how do I set grub as the default bootloader in a dualboot configuration with windows 10 and ubuntu 15.10? using efibootmgr -o 0000,0001 etc.. i was able to boot into ubuntu *once* but after a restart is was immediatily set back to the windows bootloader any idea?
[23:33] <kitkat> So chill
[23:33] <thetrav> hmm... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Consistent_Network_Device_Naming bummer, looks like it's sort of addressed when ubuntu upgrades to systemd
[23:33] <daftykins> howlymowly: change the entry in your EFI
[23:33] <ki7mt> n8s, here ya go: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LTS
[23:33] <n8s> ki7mt, correct me if im wrong, but being supported means security-related patches only isnt it? no new functionality
[23:33] <kitkat> Thanks
[23:33] <Acerio> Testing, did anyone get this?
[23:33] <k1l_> kitkat: anything specific support related? if not please take the chat somewhere else.
[23:34] <kitkat> Here we go
[23:34] <daftykins> !ot | kitkat
[23:34] <kitkat> Another troll emerges from his or her cave to bark orders. Cute.
[23:34] <truexfan81> how hard is it to upgrade via package management from lts to latest non-lts without it breaking?
[23:34] <kitkat> Ot troll chill
[23:35] <ubuntu397> kitkat, it seems they even ban nice people
[23:35] <ki7mt> n8s, read the link I sent you, it explains it better than I can paraphrase.
[23:35] <truexfan81> i'm about to experiment with it in a vm, i just want to know what to expect
Is uefi enabled?
[23:35] <OerHeks> ubuntu397, never without reason, you know that, now stay ontopic please.
[23:35] <howlymowly> daftykins: didnt I do that already with "efibootmgr -o" ?
[23:35] <daftykins> howlymowly: go check
[23:36] <howlymowly> harduim: yes
[23:36] <n8s> ok, ki7mt, link very much appreciated. Are you currently using 14.04 by any chance?
[23:36] <OerHeks> truexfan81, latest lts to latest, is a hard way > 14.04 lts > 14.10 ( EOL ) > 15.04 > 15.10 ...
And what is the first boot option?
[23:37] <truexfan81> OerHeks: ty, i'll do it that way then
[23:37] <howlymowly> harduim: I already installed everything .. first boot option shows "0002" which is windows
[23:37] <truexfan81> i've not even checked but what is latest non lts?
[23:37] <ki7mt> n8s, Yup, Im on it right now, but I alwo have partitions for each of the intervals that are still being maintained, Vivid / Wily and now Xenial (16.04 next LTS release)
[23:37] <OerHeks> truexfan81, to pass 14.10, you would need the old-versions trick in !eolupgrade
[23:37] <howlymowly> harduim: yes, it seems that uefi is enabled as I can use efibootmgr and also booted into ubuntu using efibootmgr -n
[23:37] <n8s> what kernel version is currently 14.04 in?
[23:38] <truexfan81> 3.9.something
[23:38] <ki7mt> n8s, uname -r says 3.19.0.33-generic
[23:38] <k1l_> n8s: 3.13, 3.19 or in short time 4.2. see "enablement stack"
[23:38] <truexfan81> 3.19 my bad
[23:39] <n8s> and it will stay there at 3.19? if you want to go 4.2 you need to do it manually?
[23:40] <k1l_> !enablementstack | n8s see the pictures at the end
[23:40] <n8s> (im asking that because i have a radeon 280x as graphic card, and it seems like 4.2 is superb w it
[23:40] <daftykins> n8s: maybe for the open source driver it provides, but you'd likely not want that anyway
[23:41] <n8s> so, last question... (and thanks everyone for bearing with me)
[23:41] <ki7mt> n8s, If you have a kernel you like, putting a hold on the package is one way to ensure it sticky
[23:42] <k1l_> ki7mt: not an option. you dont get security updates than.
[23:42] <n8s> if i reinstall with 14.04, can i go to 4.2 kernel right after i finish installation?
[23:42] <daftykins> ki7mt: yeah very unwise advice
[23:42] <daftykins> n8s: no
[23:42] <ki7mt> Why?
[23:42] <daftykins> ki7mt: see above...
[23:42] <truexfan81> question for ya, what is it that vmware player does that is able to change how the ubuntu installer works?
[23:43] <k1l_> ki7mt: see ubuntu.com/usn and search for kernel issues. you wont get them installed so your system is vulnerable then
have you tried switching to legacy mode?
[23:43] <n8s> ahhh ok, now i understand the graphic...
[23:43] <ki7mt> daftykins, Of course you don't get security updates, that's a given if you hold any package, but you also wont get a busted driver either, it's a give and take.
[23:43] <k1l_> n8s: there is a test 4.2 kernel in 14.04 already. please see the wiki page the bot linked
[23:43] <daftykins> truexfan81: ask vmware, that has nothing to do with ubuntu support
[23:44] <Octavius> wheres the drugs
[23:44] <n8s> so if im not wrong, 14.04 will officially get 4.2 on feb-2016
[23:44] <daftykins> ki7mt: no that's utterly terrible advice, you don't do that just for drivers - you stay on those specific major kernel versions still, it's just the -## updates that come in
[23:45] <ki7mt> daftykins, Ok, Ok, well I said that is one way, I didn't say it's "the best way"
[23:45] <Ben64> its not even a way
[23:46] <daftykins> it's not a solution so please don't give it again :)
[23:46] <n8s> ki7mt, daftykins, i understood what ki7mt tried to say i guess :)
[23:46] <daftykins> you might as well be telling someone to reinstall with Windows XP
[23:46] <n8s> lol
[23:46] <Ben64> n8s: yeah ki7mt said to lock your kernel and not get any bug fixes or security updates
[23:46] <k1l_> n8s: yes. but it wont last forever. you will need to change to the next kernel after some time
[23:47] <ki7mt> daftykins, It is a way, very much so, but this horse is dead, nuff said.
[23:47] <daftykins> ki7mt: no.
[23:47] <Ben64> even though it doesn't solve anything, the drivers aren't going to change between the versions in ubuntu
[23:47] <Ben64> each version of ubuntu is already locked into a specific kernel, and only gets updates to fix problems
[23:48] <n8s> im reading there are problems with catalyst and unity on 14.04... any of you running 14.04 got an AMD card? how does it work?
[23:48] <yapme> hi there
[23:48] <ki7mt> lol .. then i'ts not a "specific kernel" then is it if the kernel version changes, that's not locked.
[23:48] <daftykins> but the kernel version doesn't change
[23:48] <Ben64> 3.13.0-64 to 3.13.0-65 is the same kernel version, don't be silly
[23:49] <daftykins> methinks someone has some bedtime reading to do :)
[23:49] <function9x> hi guys, I've got a usb controller, and on dmesg it comes up as usb-xxx-etc/input0 how can I change that to /dev/input/js0 ?
[23:49] <daftykins> !amd | n8s might be something here
[23:49] <daftykins> n8s: what is the lspci entry of your graphics device?
[23:50] <n8s> daftykins, can you give me the full command?
[23:50] <daftykins> n8s: yeah sure... lspci
[23:51] <n8s> 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD/ATI] Tahiti XT [Radeon HD 7970/8970 OEM / R9 280X]
[23:51] <n8s> 01:00.1 Audio device: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD/ATI] Tahiti XT HDMI Audio [Radeon HD 7970 Series]
[23:51] <harduim> n8s http://paste.ubuntu.com
[23:51] <n8s> i actually did lspci | grep AMD, not sure if this is what you asked for
[23:52] <daftykins> well it achieved the same thing, but what i had in my head was the idea you'd read the output and only paste a single line of the relevant part
[23:52] <daftykins> sadly i always expect too much
[23:53] <n8s> hey, it was 2 lines :) i didnt do it THAT bad :)
[23:53] <function9x> it's to be expected
[23:53] <daftykins> pretty obvious the HDMI audio device doesn't matter though
[23:53] <daftykins> n8s: so have you used the ubuntu additional drivers utility to install fglrx, or are you just using the open driver?
[23:54] <n8s> im on the open driver, i've read bad things with the propietary one
[23:54] <daftykins> yeah welcome to owning an AMD product and using Linux, no wonder you're after a newer kernel then
[23:54] <n8s> oh
[23:54] <daftykins> if i were you - i would wait until the wily HWE stack drops for 14.04 trusty, then just reinstall from what will likely be 14.04.4 media - which will use it as default
[23:54] <n8s> so it is that bad to have a radeon card?
[23:54] <daftykins> yes
[23:55] <n8s> :(
[23:55] <n8s> ok, sounds smart to do that
[23:55] <Ben64> they've gotten better lately
[23:56] <howlymowly> harduim: I cant boot into windows anymore once I mae the switch to legacy mode
[23:57] <n8s> howlymowly, that's probably because you installed windows in EFI mode... happened to me not long ago
[23:57] <daftykins> howlymowly: as i said just change the boot entry inside the EFI :) what make and model is this system?
[23:57] <daftykins> well obviously both OSs are installed as EFI, whoever told you to change to legacy is SEVERELY misinformed and should not be giving advice
[23:57] <ki7mt> Ok, this has got me really wound up now, so explain me this, why does the hold function even exist, be for the kernel or any other package for that matter.
I just asked...
[23:58] <daftykins> ki7mt: it works on a package level, it doesn't care if it's the kernel or not - so that argument is moot.
[23:58] <ki7mt> of course it works at the package level, that's the point
[23:58] <daftykins> yeah so like i'm saying, it doesn't care that your action is insane
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[14:57] <balloons> flocculant, merges look good for ubuntu-manual-tests :-)
[15:54] <flocculant> balloons: :D
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[01:05] <^k^> 新 系统安装和升级 • libpackagekit-glib2-18无法安装 http://forum.ubuntu.org.cn/viewtopic.php?t=473918 apt-get -f install 正在读取软件包列表... 完成 正在分析软件包的依赖关系树 正在读取状态信息... 完成 正在更正依赖关系... 完成 下列软件包是自动安装的并且现在不需要了： gstreamer0.10-alsa gstr
[01:05] <^k^> ─> eamer1.0-clutter libcamel-1.2-52 libdlrestrictions1 libebook-contacts-1.2-1 libecal-1.2-18 libedata-cal-1.2-27 libeda …
[01:41] <Vie> 匿名者的irc怎么加入知道不？
[01:46] <knownbad> https://freenode.net/faq.shtml#cloaks
[01:46] <ubrl> knownbad: ⇪ freenode: frequently-asked questions
[02:15] <uuair> ubuntu15，我只要一安装ufw，默认就是所有网络连接都连不上，哪怕我使用allow 22，也无法登录，需要怎么设置啊？
[02:48] <^k^> 新 系统安装和升级 • 15.10无法正常关机（关机变重启的情况） http://forum.ubuntu.org.cn/viewtopic.php?t=473919 环境：hp 840 G1笔记本，双系统win7和Ubuntu15.10，已通过U盘正常安装好ubuntu15.10.上网和文字处理各项功能均正常。 问题：在ubuntu15.10下无法正常关机。现像：ubuntu正常关机后，笔记
[03:28] <^k^> 新 新闻和通知 • 每年 11 月 20 日為 Ubuntu 社群感恩日 UCADay http://forum.ubuntu.org.cn/viewtopic.php?t=473922 http://linux.softpedia.com/blog/announc ... 6324.shtml Announcing the Ubuntu Community Appreciation Day on November 20, 2015 每年 11 月 20 日為 Ubuntu 社群感恩日 UCADay (Ubuntu Community Appreciation Day) zz: poloshiao — 2015-
[03:28] <^k^> ─> 11-18 11:26
[03:33] <Vie> ^k^: 辛苦了
[03:36] <^k^> 新 初学者园地 - 15.10 • 15.10联网问题 http://forum.ubuntu.org.cn/viewtopic.php?t=473923 好像15.10联网稳定性不如15.04。断开后要重启才能重新联上，15.04不存在这个问题 zz: mht — 2015-11-18 11:35
[03:37] <^k^> 新 初学者园地 - 15.10 • 15.10联网问题 http://forum.ubuntu.org.cn/viewtopic.php?t=473924 好像15.10联网稳定性不如15.04。断开后要重启才能重新联上，15.04不存在这个问题 zz: mht — 2015-11-18 11:36
[05:37] <^k^> 新 Ubuntu 16.04 • 大神来看看, fstab的问题. http://forum.ubuntu.org.cn/viewtopic.php?t=473925 安装了15.10, 以后fstab里面的smaba共享服务开机无法自动挂载了, 升级到16.04也不行, cat /var/log/syslog里面可以看到有去做挂载动作,但是提示network unreachable, 启动以后手动执行sudo mount -a可以挂载上. ps: 开机
[05:57] <^k^> 新 常用硬件支持 • 求助：在Live系统中无法挂载本地硬盘分区和U盘 http://forum.ubuntu.org.cn/viewtopic.php?t=473926 系统debian8.2 制作成LiveDVD运行，在制作成liveDVD之前，在nautils中点击其他分区都可以自动挂载的，包括U盘。 现在在Live状态运行时，却出现问题： 点击所有分区图标都无法挂
[05:57] <^k^> ─> 载，提示如下问题： 不能访问 209 GB 卷 Not authorized to perform operation 运行gparted出错，提示 …
[06:00] <onlylove> debian的系统里面都装了啥，我安装的时候什么都不选就用了600M
[06:00] <onlylove> syq: ^^ cc happyaro1
[06:04] <onlylove> 为啥我怀疑我硬盘坏了
[06:13] <Ueno_Otoko> join /linux-amlogic
[06:26] <onlylove_> test
[06:26] <ubrl> onlylove_:点点点. 14:23
[06:41] <^k^> onlylove1: 拜只愛
[06:41] <onlylove> onlylove1: 拜-
[06:41] <^k^> onlylove: ok 目标被加入白名单.
[06:43] <^k^> 新 Arch发行版 • 关于tmux支持鼠标的配置 http://forum.ubuntu.org.cn/viewtopic.php?t=473927 之前的正常配置，最近更新以后失效了。配置如下： Code: # https://linuxtoy.org/archives/from-screen-to-tmux.html set -g prefix ^a bind r source-file ~/.tmux.conf\; display "Reloaded!" unbind ^b bind a send-prefix # 支持鼠标滚轮 # 水平
[06:43] <^k^> ─> 或垂直分割窗口 unbind '"' bind - splitw -v # 分割成上下两个窗口 unbind % bind | splitw -h # 分割成 …
[06:59] * yurakucho Mac太扯淡了, 耳机插孔切换不是硬开关, 休眠回来耳机保持插入的状态竟然speaker发生, 干!
[07:09] <onlylove> yurakucho: 有debian没，帮我执行下apt-file find dig
[07:09] <onlylove> yurakucho: 网络不好，连basesystem都没选，然后发现一堆工具没有
[07:15] <gfxmode_> yurakucho: 您是不是用耳机看小电影了？
[07:19] <yurakucho> onlylove1: 咩 packages.debian.org
[07:19] <yurakucho> gfxmode_: 在放skid row的歌
[07:28] <onlylove1> yurakucho: That is useless ,I just wanna install dig ,but it depends on bind!
[07:44] <onlylove> test
[07:44] <ubrl> onlylove:点点点. 15:41
[07:44] <onlylove> happyaro1: 哪个傻缺提议把dig和bind9绑在一起安装的 cc syq
[07:45] <yurakucho> onlylove1: 我印象里我的debian里有dig 并没有bind9
[07:46] <onlylove1> yurakucho: you can simply try apt-get install dnsutils
[07:46] <imtxc> dig 和 bind9?
[07:47] <onlylove1> yurakucho: if you choose nothing in taskselect when installing your system
[07:47] <yurakucho> onlylove1: https://packages.debian.org/jessie/dnsutils
[07:47] <ubrl> ⇪ f: Debian -- Details of package dnsutils in jessie
[07:47] <yurakucho> onlylove1: 没依赖, 我默认没开suggests =,=
[07:48] <yurakucho> imtxc: 用了bind9的库而已, 不知道被哪个suggest了可能
[07:48] <yurakucho> imtxc: 你坐在我那?
[07:48] <imtxc> yurakucho: 还没呢
[07:48] <imtxc> yurakucho: 在考虑要不要换~
[07:49] <yurakucho> imtxc: 大座舒服 我那不行
[07:49] <kandu> yurakucho: 好像 dnsutils depend libbind9
[07:49] <yurakucho> imtxc: 去做你老板的位子好了
[07:49] <yurakucho> kandu: 只是库的话可以理解
[07:49] <imtxc> yurakucho: 不敢啊
[07:50] <yurakucho> imtxc: 或者忽悠另外三个大座中的一个离职
[07:50] <kandu> yurakucho: mac 用着感觉如何，对比deb
[07:51] <yurakucho> imtxc: 我想卖了x230啊, t460s还没上市
[07:51] <yurakucho> kandu: 烂, 渣, 难用
[07:51] <yurakucho> kandu: linux是40%的完成度 但是可以自定义到90%
[07:52] <yurakucho> kandu: windows是70%和80%
[07:52] <yurakucho> kandu: mac是70%和71%
[07:53] <yurakucho> imtxc: 没得机器借了 不开心啊
[07:54] <onlylove1> yurakucho: it depends on bind9-host and it's not a suggets
[07:54] <yurakucho> onlylove1: ... bind9-host只是提供了一个host命令, 特别小一个包....
[07:55] <yurakucho> onlylove1: 和bind9的主功能差好远好吧
[07:55] <onlylove1> yurakucho: ok i see
[07:55] <imtxc> yurakucho: lol
[07:56] <yurakucho> imtxc: 你lol的啥
[07:56] <imtxc> yurakucho: 机器多啊
[07:57] <yurakucho> imtxc: 有保修的有IPS的x230不知道能卖多少钱哦
[07:57] <onlylove1> I wonder the percent of OSX
[07:58] <onlylove> yurakucho: 特别小一个包占用了11M？
[07:58] <yurakucho> onlylove: https://packages.debian.org/jessie/dnsutils
[07:58] <yurakucho> o
[07:59] <yurakucho> onlylove: 最下 装完了一百多K
[07:59] <yurakucho> 稍等 说错了
[07:59] <yurakucho> https://packages.debian.org/jessie/bind9-host
[07:59] <ubrl> ⇪ f: Debian -- Details of package bind9-host in jessie
[07:59] <yurakucho> 也是100多k
[08:00] <onlylove1> yurakucho: After this operation, 10.7 MB of additional disk space will be used.
[08:01] <yurakucho> onlylove1: 库的原因吧
[08:01] <onlylove1> 简直了
[08:02] <kandu> onlylove1: 截个屏瞧瞧
[08:07] <onlylove3> test
[08:07] <ubrl> onlylove3:点点点. 16:04
[08:07] <onlylove3> kandu: imagebin.org is down
[08:08] <yurakucho> http://picpaste.com/
[08:08] <kandu> onlylove3: 这里也好 http://paste.ubuntu.org.cn/
[08:09] <imtxc> yurakucho: x230 现在要是能卖成钱就好了
[08:09] <yurakucho> imtxc: 能啊 怎么不能
[08:10] <yurakucho> imtxc: 两个月前水木还卖3000呢, 还没有IPS和保修的
[08:10] <imtxc> yurakucho: 我去，这么保值呢
[08:10] <yurakucho> imtxc: 得看具体配置吧
[08:11] <onlylove3> kandu: http://paste.ubuntu.org.cn/3638553
[08:13] <onlylove_> imtxc: 3000都能买新船了，那些孩子不懂行情，加上现在青黄不接
[08:13] <imtxc> yurakucho: 没 ips 的配置估计高不到哪里去
[08:14] * yurakucho 我这么穷 还是再买一年保修再用一年吧 =,=
[08:14] <imtxc> yurakucho: 你那么壕
[08:14] <yurakucho> imtxc: 毛线
[08:15] <onlylove_> imtxc: 这年头越有钱越觉得自己穷，越穷的反而越觉得钱无所谓
[08:16] <onlylove_> imtxc: 所以adam觉得自己穷
[08:19] * yurakucho 买保险, 再战一年再换
[08:23] <onlylove_> yurakucho: 你在等x1 4th?
[08:24] <yurakucho> onlylove_: x1性价比太差了
[08:24] <yurakucho> onlylove_: T460s之类的吧
[08:24] <onlylove_> yurakucho: 性价比，有人比船更好？
[08:25] <yurakucho> onlylove_: 又不是追求极端, 均衡考虑嘛
[08:27] <onlylove> yurakucho: git push怎么弄的
[08:27] <onlylove> yurakucho: http://www.open-open.com/lib/view/open1328069889514.html
[08:27] <ubrl> onlylove: ⇪ Git详解之三 Git分支 - OPEN 开发经验库
[08:27] <onlylove> yurakucho: 里面有个删除远程分支
[08:27] <yurakucho> onlylove: 嗯 怎么了
[08:27] <imtxc> yurakucho: 我是真穷
[08:29] <onlylove__> yurakucho: 那么我要把本地分支更新到远程分支上，我该怎么做啊？
[08:29] <yurakucho> onlylove__: 更新就是push咯 还要怎么做...
[08:30] <onlylove__> yurakucho: 就是说，我check out到本地分支，然后git push？
[08:30] <yurakucho> onlylove__: 你可以用比较正常的语法 git push origin --delete serverfix 删除remote branch
[08:30] <yurakucho> onlylove__: 是啊
[08:30] * onlylove__ 突然觉得git好麻烦
[08:31] <yurakucho> onlylove__: 命令确实有点多 用gui吧~
[08:33] <yurakucho> imtxc: 我的工行卡里一分钱没有, 但是发短信说可以申请十万二额度的信用卡... 发好几回了...
[08:34] <imtxc> onlylove2: 今天我的网比你的还差
[08:34] <onlylove2> imtxc: impossible I use two client
[08:38] <onlylove2> imtxc: It is said that there was a fire in soft park first phase is that true?
[08:38] <onlylove> test
[08:38] <ubrl> onlylove:点点点. 16:35
[08:38] <onlylove> yurakucho: 我头大的是概念，并不愁命令，对那些概念不熟，用git-gui一样把repo搞乱
[08:40] * onlylove 觉得还是在github上弄个repo做实验比较好一点
[08:41] <onlylove> imtxc: 上周五我司直接断网，然后ITO发信说，机房着火了，然后说他们奋战到周六凌晨两点
[08:43] <onlylove> 真怀念直接push到master的时间
[08:53] <^k^> 暂无新帖 讲个笑话吧: 要烤几分熟 : 甲:你不是在火化场做的好好的,怎麽会被辞退呢? 乙:都怪我多嘴! 甲:你说了什麽吗? 乙:那一次我问旁边的家属要烤几分熟!
[09:09] <^k^> 新 新闻和通知 • 装有 Ubuntu 的 BQ Aquaris 手机现抵达俄罗斯供购买 http://forum.ubuntu.org.cn/viewtopic.php?t=473929 装有 Ubuntu 的 BQ 手机 http://cn.ubuntu.com/news 现抵达俄罗斯供购买，此次提供购买Ubuntu BQ手机为BQ手机 E5 http://cn.ubuntu.com/news 和E4.5，分别售价为 15,499 ₽ 和12,499 ₽。 zz: ubuntu_fan
[09:09] <^k^> ─> — 2015-11-18 17:09
[09:10] <gfxmode_> 今天没有Coding欲
[09:10] * yurakucho 求coding欲
[09:12] <gfxmode_> yurakucho: PM撩拨一下，就有了
[09:12] <yurakucho> gfxmode_: 我司暂时没有PM...
[09:12] <yurakucho> gfxmode_: 办公室太小 坐不下PM...
[09:14] * gfxmode_ PM == Piaoliang MM
[09:20] <onlylove__> gfxmode_: PLMM撩拨下，估计就更没了吧？
[09:21] <onlylove__> yurakucho: 要给你多大的OFFICE，你才满足！
[09:23] <gfxmode_> 估计OFFICE2013也满足不了
[09:24] <imtxc> test
[09:24] <ubrl> imtxc:点点点. 17:21
[09:24] <imtxc> yurakucho: 壕
[09:24] <imtxc> yurakucho: coding 起来
[09:27] * onlylove__ 觉得debian越来越臃肿
[09:27] <gebjgd> onlylove__, 为毛？
[09:28] <onlylove__> gebjgd: 今天装系统，什么都没选，用掉600+M，装了个dnsutils，用掉10+M
[09:28] <yurakucho> 几百兆而已...
[09:29] <gfxmode_> 硬盘多大？现在硬盘不值钱吧
[09:29] <gebjgd> onlylove__, 那还多？
[09:30] * yurakucho 晚上吃啥
[09:30] <onlylove_> gebjgd: 装系统的时候tasksel里面一个没选，连basesystem也没选
[09:31] <gebjgd> onlylove_, raspi都8G的sd卡了 足够
[09:32] <onlylove___> gebjgd: slax 300M不到已经带KDE了，debian这边600M连Xorg都没!
[09:32] <onlylove___> yurakucho: ^^
[09:33] <gebjgd> onlylove___, slax是啥？
[09:33] <yurakucho> onlylove___: debian的目标又不是精简...
[09:33] <yurakucho> onlylove___: 当然我也觉得有臃肿的倾向 所以关掉suggest的option
[09:33] <onlylove___> yurakucho: 不是精简，也用不着这样吧，win2000装完了才800M好么，
[09:33] <onlylove___> yurakucho: win98装完才300M
[09:33] <yurakucho> onlylove___: 为什么和十五年前的OS比较...
[09:34] <onlylove___> yurakucho: 你非要和16G的win7比？
[09:35] <gebjgd> onlylove___, 必须要和win10比较
[09:35] <onlylove_> 你们为啥要和烂的比……
[09:36] <onlylove_> yurakucho: 15年前，win2K有那些功能，15年后，win10比win2k多啥特殊功能了？
[09:37] <yurakucho> 多太多了... ...
[09:37] <gebjgd> onlylove_, 多了你还能继续用的功能了
[09:37] * yurakucho 认怂下线下班
[09:39] <onlylove_> gebjgd: 要是win2k有64bit版本，而且有现有硬件驱动，我还真不介意用2k
[09:39] <gebjgd> onlylove_, 你用2k试试看就知道了 FX都装不上了
[09:39] <onlylove_> gebjgd: 因为fx会检查系统版本，
[09:39] <onlylove_> gebjgd: 你如果把那段代码去掉，一样装
[09:40] <gebjgd> onlylove_, 别如果 世界不相信如果
[09:40] <onlylove_> gebjgd: 那你把win2k的nt5改成nt6.1
[09:40] <gebjgd> onlylove_, 改了还叫2k么
[09:40] <onlylove_> gebjgd: 欺骗软件这种小把戏
[09:41] <onlylove_> gebjgd: 改个字符串
[09:41] <gebjgd> onlylove_, 你适合去微软工作
[09:41] <gebjgd> onlylove_, 改了之后过来继续喷debian臃肿
[09:42] <onlylove> test
[09:42] <ubrl> onlylove:点点点. 17:39
[09:42] <onlylove> gebjgd: 这和微软并没关系，系统并没增加特殊功能，占用资源却加倍膨胀
[09:43] <gebjgd> onlylove, win是谁出的 和微软没关系 和苹果有关系？
[09:43] <gebjgd> onlylove, 你这叫抬杠
[09:43] <onlylove> gebjgd: 我只是拿win2k做比较，slax一样啊
[09:43] <onlylove> gebjgd: slax总是linux了吧
[09:44] <onlylove> gebjgd: 人200M的体积，带声卡显卡驱动，带KDE了
[09:44] <gebjgd> onlylove, 那就去用 在这里说什么
[10:32] <rabbitear> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Rhvtzzmq-Y
[10:32] <ubrl> rabbitear: ⇪ Baby it's Cold Outside lyrics - YouTube
[11:02] <Freebuilder> 吼吼
[11:05] <CyrusYzGTt> 嘿嘿
[11:17] <^k^> 暂无新帖 讲个笑话吧: 竟然是图片 http://i5.xiaohua.fd.zol-img.com.cn/t_s600x5000/g3/M01/00/08/Cg-4WFI2rq6IIIKSAAEEXZnbgVsAALrJQHF_t0AAQR1245.jpg 一个内心强大的喵的自画像~
[11:19] <Freebuilder> 照猫画虎
[11:20] <CyrusYzGTt> 猫科动物，溯源进化
[11:33] <yoyojacky2012> 这里有没有什么比较有趣的话题?
[11:36] <Freebuilder> 今晚吃泥鳅
[11:38] <Freebuilder> 上腭被搓死啦
[12:21] <^k^> 新 GTK+和QT • 解决了一个数组分配的小问题 http://forum.ubuntu.org.cn/viewtopic.php?t=473930 哈哈！！！ 起因：我先int a[row+1][999]了一个数组，row是一个int型，初使化居然没问题。 经过：程序里运行到某一部份总是崩溃，发现那一部份的row都大于2000，当时郁闷啊，程序里死查活查都觉得逻
[12:21] <^k^> ─> 辑上没问题啊。。。毕竟row小于1500时程序都正常，触发异常都是row很大的时候。莫非数 …
[13:05] <fightingcat> Hi,Çë½Ì¸ö¹ØÓÚÖն˵ÄÎÊÌ⣬/dev/ptmxºÍ/dev/pts/*¿´ÉÏÈ¥Ö»ÊÇÆðµ½Á¬½ÓÁ½±ßÊäÈëÊä³öµÄ×÷Óã¬ÊÇÕâÑùµÄÂð
[13:05] <^k^> fightingcat say: Hi,请教个关于终端的问题，/dev/ptmx和/dev/pts/*看上去只是起到连接两边输入输出的作用，是这样的吗 in GB2312 ? We use UTF-8 !
[13:05] <fightingcat> Sorry about that...
[13:06] <fightingcat> Jesus, I don't know how to set encoding of this client...
[13:09] <CyrusYzGTt> 换 zh_CN.UTF8
[13:09] <fightingcat> well...I want ask a question about pseudo terminal, it seems like /dev/ptmx and /dev/pts/* are used for connecting input/output of two side, is that like so?
[13:10] <CyrusYzGTt> ... 找 FreeBirdLjj
[13:10] <CyrusYzGTt> ... 找 gebjgd
[13:12] <fightingcat> I get mojibake here too...
[13:14] <CyrusYzGTt> ..英文不懂，太多深奥的单词，
[13:17] <fightingcat> hao ba, yong sublimetext zhuan huan le xia bian ma kan dao le...
[13:17] <alvin_rxg> fightingcat: [自動] *警告* Pinyin bu shi keyi yuedu de yuyan *BHY@aq*！請配置好您的輸入法 或者使用 http://www.inputking.com/ 謝謝！
[13:19] <CyrusYzGTt> debian 系 用 sudo dpkg-reconfigure locales 选择所有中文编码 比如 GB2312 GB3... GBK zh_CN.UTF,,然后选择 zh_CN.UTF作为主要编码
[13:19] <circ-user-C1flq> 额，我回来了，之前用的客户端不能设置编码……
[13:19] <circ-user-C1flq> 不，我是windows……
[13:19] <CyrusYzGTt> debian 系 用 sudo dpkg-reconfigure locales 选择所有中文编码 比如 GB2312 GB3... GBK zh_CN.UTF,,然后选择 zh_CN.UTF作为主要编码
[13:20] <CyrusYzGTt> circ-user-C1flq§ ..
[13:20] <circ-user-C1flq> 换了个chrome插件的IRC客户端
[13:20] <CyrusYzGTt> 自己用自己喜欢用的， 一般用户，比如我，就用 xchat
[13:20] <circ-user-C1flq> 之前的问题是，看起来/dev/ptmx和/dev/pts/*只是连接两边输入输出的作用，是这样的吗
[13:21] <CyrusYzGTt> 这么深奥， 我不会
[13:22] <CyrusYzGTt> 我只是管理用 gnome3 自带的那个，
[13:22] <CyrusYzGTt> 如果用其他的安装 扩展插件
[13:23] <circ-user-C1flq> 好吧，谢谢捧场，不知道去哪里问好，第一时间想到QQ群，但是懒得加，然后想到这里……
[13:23] <CyrusYzGTt> 比如 蓝牙音响 pulsealsa bulez
[13:24] <CyrusYzGTt> circ-user-C1flq§ 去 #archlinux-cn 我的debian 问题在那解答，或者去 gentoo 和 arch的wiki ，那里比较通用
[13:26] <circ-user-C1flq> 好的，谢谢指点
[13:50] <mjkr> can someone verify, both from within the gfw and without, if http://faculty.chicagobooth.edu is accessible?
[13:50] <ubrl> ⇪ f: 取标题 Connection refused - connect(2)
[13:52] * mjkr nudges CyrusYzGTt
[14:07] <CyrusYzGTt> mjkr§ nudges 是什么意思？？
[14:07] <vickycq> 点你的意思
[14:07] <CyrusYzGTt> can someone verify, both from within the gfw and without, if http://faculty.chicagobooth.edu is accessible?
[14:08] <CyrusYzGTt> 那这句话呢
[14:08] <vickycq> Not accessible here.
[14:08] <CyrusYzGTt> 翻译
[14:09] <vickycq> But ping result is 0% packet loss at ~320ms
[14:09] <vickycq> ip 128.135.211.210
[14:11] <vickycq> Tried goproxy, got 'Unable to connect to server at URL: http://faculty.chicagobooth.edu/'
[14:11] <ubrl> ⇪ f: 取标题 Connection refused - connect(2)
[14:11] <mjkr> ok. so probably the site is down
[14:12] <vickycq> http://downforeveryoneorjustme.com/http://faculty.chicagobooth.edu
[14:12] <ubrl> vickycq: ⇪ Down For Everyone Or Just Me -> Check if your website is down or up?
[14:12] <vickycq> It's not just you! http://faculty.chicagobooth.edu looks down from here.
[14:12] <ubrl> ⇪ f: 取标题 Connection refused - connect(2)
[14:13] <mjkr> http://downforeveryoneorjustme.com/http://www.archive.org
[14:13] <ubrl> mjkr: ⇪ Down For Everyone Or Just Me -> Check if your website is down or up?
[14:13] <mjkr> nvm
[14:14] <vickycq> archive.org is ok
[14:14] <mjkr> from within prchina or without?
[14:14] <vickycq> archive.org is blocked in prc.
[14:15] <mjkr> dns poisoning, by the look of it.
[14:18] <mjkr> dns poisoning indeed
[14:20] <vickycq> yeah, it's quite common
[14:23] <new> hello
[14:23] <ubrl> new:点点点. 22:20
[14:34] <root__> hello
[14:34] <ubrl> root__:点点点. 22:31
[14:34] <root__> 大家好
[14:34] <ubrl> root__:点点点. 22:31
[14:35] <root__> hi
[14:35] <ubrl> root__:点点点. 22:32
[14:35] <root__> 大家好，可以用中文交流吗？
[14:36] <^k^> 暂无新帖 讲个笑话吧: 猎人与鸟 : 猎人手持猎枪对准了头顶的一只鸟,这时,鸟拉了一泡屎正好落在他的脸上,猎人气愤地骂道:"你出来也不穿裤衩?" 鸟讥讽道:"难道猎人拉屎还穿裤衩?"
[14:37] <root__> hello
[14:37] <ubrl> root__:点点点. 22:35
[14:38] <root__> 大家都在干嘛呢？
[15:13] <Freebuilder> http://forum.ubuntu.org.cn/viewtopic.php?f=73&t=294076
[15:13] <ubrl> ⇪ t: mldonkey 为何自动切换限速方案 - 查看主题 • Ubuntu中文论坛 zz: 自由建客
[15:56] <CyrusYzGTt> maxdownload
[15:56] <CyrusYzGTt> maxupload
[18:03] <gebjgd> knownbad, 上班呢
[18:04] <knownbad> 没，躺在床上睡觉呢。
[18:05] <gebjgd> knownbad, 赞
[18:05] <gebjgd> knownbad, 自己当老板了？
[18:17] <knownbad> 没。
[18:18] <knownbad> 你呢？ 开了你公司CEO没？
[18:19] <knownbad> 近来天气冷了，多注意些。
[18:20] <gebjgd> knownbad, 没有呢 ceo最近在和我讨论mac客户端的问题
[18:20] <gebjgd> knownbad, 先留着他
[18:21] <goodwell> 嗯，有没有人
[18:22] <gebjgd> goodwell, 你猜
[18:23] <goodwell> gebjgd: 这么晚了，不睡啊
[18:30] <knownbad> 先让他帮你打盆水泡泡脚再谈。
[18:32] <gebjgd> knownbad, 我看行
[18:34] <knownbad> 德国人泡脚吗？ 洛杉矶的足疗店到处都是。
[18:39] <gebjgd> knownbad, 泡茶
[18:46] <gebjgd> knownbad, lxpanel 0.8.1就差点功能能就完美了
[18:55] <knownbad> 得看看qt。
[19:00] <gebjgd> knownbad, lxqt？ 太渣
[19:05] <knownbad> 但是lxde已在maintenance mode。 不是得migrate吗？
[19:06] <gebjgd> knownbad, 慢慢等吧
[19:17] <knownbad> 那，我还是先用着cinnamon吧。
[19:19] <knownbad> 刚刚去看了网站，还好啊？ 只是还没上debian而已。
[19:19] <gebjgd> knownbad, 太慢 而且不支持2个屏幕的panel平铺
[19:19] <knownbad> Pannel到还好，只要支持多屏。
[19:20] <knownbad> 奇怪lxqt frost比lxqt dark还黑。
[19:51] <gebjgd> knownbad, cinnamon的不支持
[19:52] <knownbad> 谁不支持？
[19:52] <gebjgd> knownbad, 平铺
[19:53] <knownbad> 没看懂，还在说panel吗？
[20:02] <gebjgd> knownbad, 必须啊
[20:15] <knownbad> 妈的，你见过完美的桌面吗？
[20:18] <gebjgd> knownbad, 娘的 没见过
[20:18] <knownbad> 难道panel决定成败？
[20:19] <gebjgd> knownbad, 恩那
[20:20] <gebjgd> knownbad, 细节决定成败
[20:21] <knownbad> 看来你是传说中修剪鸡巴毛的男人。。。
[20:21] <knownbad> 太龟毛了。
[20:23] <gebjgd> knownbad, 你不修剪？
[20:23] <knownbad> 我一把火烧了。
[20:27] <gebjgd> knownbad, 更厉害 高手
[20:29] <knownbad> 烤鸵鸟。
[20:53] <gebjgd> knownbad, 鸵鸟肉？
[20:54] <knownbad> 大只。
[21:05] <gebjgd> knownbad, 鸵鸟肉不好吃
[21:24] <knownbad> 我晕，说的是下面那只鸵鸟。。。
[21:24] <gebjgd> knownbad, 你下面那是鹌鹑
[21:25] <knownbad> 草莓你。
[21:25] * gebjgd 睡觉
[23:55] <^k^> 新 服务器基础应用 • ssh一段时间后就连接不上 http://forum.ubuntu.org.cn/viewtopic.php?t=473933 我有5台装了ubuntu server 14.04的服务器，其中4台机器ssh互相之间都能连通，但是有一台机器就一开始一段时间能ssh连通，一段时间后便不允许别的服务器对它进行ssh连接（连接不上时显示connectio
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[01:44] <jplatte> where would be the appropriate place to ask about ubuntu-device-flash?
[01:50] <ahayzen> jplatte, probably in #ubuntu-touch but alot of the people are in this channel or that one :-)
[01:51] <jplatte> yeah so this thing is NOT behaving as it should
[01:51] <jplatte> it fails to go into recovery mode despite me having specified the recovery image file, even when I use an absolute path
[01:52] <jplatte> and now I'm trying to flash the bq channel instead of the non-bq devel channel and it fails before it has even downloaded the new image?!
[01:52] <ahayzen> jplatte, what is the command you are running and the output ?
[01:52] <jplatte> also, the -v flag has to be before the touch apparently? but who cares, it doesn't do anything anyway >_<
[01:52] <jplatte> jonas@VirtualBox-Xubuntu:~$ sudo ubuntu-device-flash -v touch --channel=ubuntu-touch/stable/bq-aquaris.en --bootstrap --recovery-image /home/jonas/recovery-krillin.img
[01:52] <jplatte> 2015/11/18 02:50:39 Expecting the device to be in the bootloader... waiting
[01:52] <jplatte> 2015/11/18 02:50:39 Device is |krillin|
[01:52] <jplatte> 2015/11/18 02:50:39 Flashing version 26 from ubuntu-touch/stable/bq-aquaris.en channel and server https://system-image.ubuntu.com to device krillin
[01:52] <jplatte> 41.34 MB / 52.68 MB [[01:53] <jplatte> I had a = instead of a space after --recovery-image first, does not make a different
[01:53] <jplatte> *difference
[01:53] <jplatte> with a space is simply how I found it online
[01:53] <ahayzen> well firstly you shouldn't need sudo
[01:53] <jplatte> I do, fastboot devices doesn't find it without sudo and ubuntu-device-flash waits forever for the device to be in the bootloader
[01:54] <jplatte> dunno why, fastboot devices works on my host system (I'm flashing through usb passthrough on a xubuntu 15.04)
[01:54] <ahayzen> hmm i've never used the --recovery-image before so someone else is probably better to answer
[01:54] <jplatte> I guess I'll restart the VM
[01:56] <jplatte> ah right, this was the problem without sudo:
[01:56] <jplatte> jonas@VirtualBox-Xubuntu:~$ fastboot devices
[01:56] <jplatte> no permissions fastboot
[01:58] <ahayzen> hmm $ adb devices and $ fastboot devices both work without sudo for me
[01:58] <jplatte> https://stackoverflow.com/questions/27017453/fastboot-and-adb-not-working-with-sudo
[01:58] <jplatte> they're talking about udev, might well be that it's the virtualbox passthrough that results in the permission problem
[02:04] <jplatte> is there a manual chmod I can do?
[02:04] <jplatte> also, how high is the probability that running ubuntu-device-flash as sudo actually changes anything for worse??
[02:05] <ahayzen> probably not stopping it doing what its failing todo
[02:06] <jplatte> will upgrading from 0.30 to 0.32 potentially help?
[02:06] <cwayne1> jplatte: what version of ubuntu is your vm
[02:06] <jplatte> 15.05
[02:06] <jplatte> *04
[02:07] <cwayne1> jplatte: and where did you get that recovery image from?
[02:07] <jplatte> heh
[02:08] <jplatte> somewhere on launchpad I think, linked to on askubuntu
[02:08] <cwayne1> ah, that'd probably be the right one then..
[02:08] <jplatte> http://askubuntu.com/questions/602035/how-do-i-use-ubuntu-device-flash-with-the-bq-aquaris-e4-5-and-aquaris-e5
[02:08] <jplatte> not sure, I guess that could actually be the problem
[02:08] <cwayne1> jplatte: something you could try is sudo fastboot boot /home/jonas/recovery-krillin.img
[02:09] <jplatte> okay
[02:09] <cwayne1> jplatte: and once that's booted, verify you can adb shell to it
[02:09] <cwayne1> then you could try the same u-d-f call, but without --bootstrap
[02:10] <jplatte> hey, it shows up in adb devices! :)
[02:11] <cwayne1> :) also jplatte the udev rules you would need are in the second answer on the askubuntu question
[02:11] <jplatte> Yeah I looked at that
[02:11] <jplatte> Didn't copypaste it but played around with the vbox udev rules
[02:11] <jplatte> but didn't work
[02:11] <cwayne1> im just not sure how it works with usb passthrough to vbox, never tried that
[02:12] <jplatte> anyway, now I'm getting weird error messages
[02:12] <jplatte> Do I have to use a bq-approved channel? :<
[02:12] <jplatte> The bq images are so cluttered with useless stuff that's tedious to remove
[02:12] <cwayne1> im pretty sure that's the right channel, what're the errors you're seeing?
[02:13] <jplatte> No I didn't use the stable channel this time
[02:13] <jplatte> I used ubuntu-touch/devel/ubuntu
[02:13] <jplatte> (it did show up with ubuntu-device-flash query --list-channels --device=krillin so I thought it should work)
[02:13] <jplatte> 2015/11/18 03:11:15 Device is |/sbin/sh: getprop: not found|
[02:13] <jplatte> Device /sbin/sh: getprop: not found not found on server https://system-image.ubuntu.com channel ubuntu-touch/devel/ubuntu
[02:14] <cwayne1> jplatte: adding --device krillin should fix that
[02:14] <jplatte> thanks! :)
[02:15] <jplatte> it's doing something... ^^
[02:15] <jplatte> for longer than before...
[02:16] <cwayne1> it's cause the way it auto-determines the device doesnt work from recovery (there's no getprop command)
[02:16] <cwayne1> neat :)
[02:16] <jplatte> so now that this is non-bootstrap, what's going to be reset?
[02:17] <cwayne1> userdata should be preserved, if you dont want it to be you can --wipe
[02:17] <jplatte> nah, it's nice to have that stay
[02:17] <jplatte> does userdata include non-preinstalled apps?
[02:19] <cwayne1> i believe so
[02:19] <cwayne1> but its been a while since ive done phone stuff, so i could be wrong :)
[02:19] <jplatte> so you also don't know what apps are preinstalled on the non-bq image?
[02:20] <jplatte> wanted to ask that next :D
[02:20] <cwayne1> it depends on the channel
[02:20] <cwayne1> they all have different custom tarballs with different preinstalled apps
[02:20] <jplatte> ubuntu-touch/devel/ubuntu
[02:20] <cwayne1> i think that was the least amount of preinstalled stuff, but i never really used that one
[02:21] <jplatte> but do the non-vendor-specific ones also have apps that aren't in the store?
[02:21] <cwayne1> no, theyd all be in the store
[02:21] <jplatte> because that was the most confusing and annoying about the bq image
[02:21] <cwayne1> there were only a select few that weren't in the store
[02:21] <jplatte> it has all these scopes that you can't uninstall (at least without the command line) because you just can't get to their store pages
[02:22] <cwayne1> yeah, that is an issue
[02:22] <jplatte> only english names being searchable is another one :P
[02:22] <cwayne1> in which scope?
[02:22] <jplatte> I'm really sceptical about UTs future in general :D
[02:23] <jplatte> which scopes were uninstallable? a lot
[02:23] <jplatte> I think reddit was one of them
[02:23] <cwayne1> ah, see those ones aren't even installed on the phone
[02:23] <cwayne1> those live on a server
[02:23] <cwayne1> lp:ubuntu-rest-scopes
[02:23] <jplatte> not that I don't like or use reddit, it's awesome, but the scope is absolutely useless because I can't log in
[02:24] <cwayne1> reddit, weather channel, openlibrary, wikipedia, yahoo finance,
[02:24] <cwayne1> jplatte: you know i cam pretty close to writing a logged-in reddit scope, but figured theres enough apps in the store for it
[02:24] <jplatte> that's another thing, why is canonical marketing scopes so badly..? at the current state they can't do shit
[02:24] <cwayne1> well i dont know about that
[02:24] <cwayne1> a lot of them can do quite a bit
[02:25] <cwayne1> there's certainly room for improvement
[02:25] <jplatte> well, I think a logged in reddit scope wouldn't be so much better
[02:25] <ahayzen> i live in the main scopes :-) lol
[02:25] <cwayne1> also full disclosure
[02:25] <cwayne1> i wrote a whole lot of those scopes
[02:25] <cwayne1> and im the one that added a bunch of those things to the preinstalled images
[02:25] <cwayne1> sooooooo you hate me :)
[02:25] <jplatte> my general problem with the scopes is that they don't have their main selling feature, which is being instantly accessible
[02:26] <cwayne1> how so?
[02:26] <jplatte> When I swipe to a scope, it always has to load for 1 or 2 seconds before actually showing up to date data
[02:26] <jplatte> there's no quick swiping through them to view stuff on the go
[02:26] <jplatte> I could open up an app just as well as it it currently
[02:26] <cwayne1> i always just swiped up from the bottom and chose the scope that way
[02:27] <cwayne1> but you can swipe through them if you set them as favorites
[02:27] <cwayne1> but that said, if you have like 10 favorites its not quite as useful
[02:27] <ahayzen> cwayne1, i think the aggregation scopes should have a higher precedence in that list from the bottom, even have the single scopes collapsed under them in the menu
[02:27] <cwayne1> ahayzen: i agree
[02:27] <ahayzen> as if i'm looking for the News aggregation scope in my list of scopes i have to scroll quite far down
[02:27] <jplatte> uhm... shouldn't this flashing come to an end by now?!
[02:27] <ahayzen> and i really don't care about the BBC/CNET scopes
[02:27] <jplatte> it's been running since more than 10 minutes
[02:28] <cwayne1> ahayzen: not if you favorite the news one :)
[02:28] <ahayzen> i just want the aggregated one
[02:28] <jplatte> okay, I can see aggregate scopes being useful for some people
[02:28] <ahayzen> cwayne1, yeah its favourite now, but my point is that list is *way* too long and i never use it because of that
[02:28] <cwayne1> if you add it as a favorite you can set its place in the list of favorites
[02:28] <jplatte> that is a thing I didn't consider
[02:28] <cwayne1> ahayzen: yeah, that's fair
[02:28] <cwayne1> i dont know that a list is the best way to do it
[02:28] <jplatte> but aggregated scopes are also useless to me because there is nothing they could aggregate
[02:29] <ahayzen> cwayne1, but if it showed a list like Music, News, Videos etc .. then if you tap on news it shows all the news ones in the list or something .. would be much easier to navigate
[02:29] <cwayne1> jplatte: any specific examples of what you think they're missing?
[02:29] <cwayne1> ahayzen: absolutely
[02:29] <ahayzen> then the main issue of scopes after that, is i can only read the first X characters of the article, i have to then open the browser
[02:30] <jplatte> cwayne1: aggregated scopes or scopes in general?
[02:32] <ahayzen> i believe the refreshing of the scopes is planned to be improved, right cwayne1 ? so it doesn't go completely blank/white ?
[02:32] <jplatte> Can I safely assume the flashing failed (again) when it's been taking more than 15 minutes??
[02:32] <ahayzen> jplatte, what stage is it at?
[02:33] <jplatte> 2015/11/18 03:14:27 Start pushing /home/jonas/.cache/ubuntuimages/pool/ubuntu-631ce387d6c729c3da0ae9177d0c9d9a07f3e0dfb15b21b20771079322915d20.tar.xz to device
[02:33] <jplatte> it's started pushing 4 files, then logged it was done with 3, started pushing 2 more, and now it just sits there
[02:33] <jplatte> all the logs are from within the first minute of starting it
[02:33] <ahayzen> usually the last file is huge and takes a while
[02:34] <jplatte> okay, then I'll keep waiting I guess
[02:34] <jplatte> actually
[02:34] <ahayzen> could adb shell in and see what $ top is showing
[02:34] <jplatte> let me just check the files sizes of those
[02:34] <cwayne1> jplatte: both, really
[02:34] <cwayne1> ahayzen: not sure to be honest, i've been out of the scopes game for a bit now :)
[02:34] <jplatte> so aggregation scopes are just not for me I think
[02:35] <ahayzen> cwayne1, haha thought there was a discussion at UOS about it
[02:35] <jplatte> the only one I might be interested in would be news aggregation in the form of RSS feeds
[02:35] <jplatte> normal news as one is useless, I only have one text source for that
[02:35] <cwayne1> jplatte: that's basically what the news aggregator is
[02:36] <jplatte> I guess I would use an rss aggregation for comics, but then again that might not work because the screen is to small. but I also don't wanna read articles on my phone
[02:36] <cwayne1> jplatte: you can create a new scope from an rss feed in like 5 minutes, and add the news keyword so it shows up in the aggregator
[02:36] <jplatte> but I can't add my own rss feeds, can I?
[02:36] <jplatte> Oh, oaky
[02:36] <cwayne1> jplatte: well, there is a configurable rss scope in the store i think
[02:36] <jplatte> Should do that for my favorite news site then, even if I'm not gonna use it myself ^^
[02:36] <cwayne1> jplatte: :)
[02:37] <jplatte> okay, might try it out if my phone works again
[02:37] <jplatte> also...
[02:37] <jplatte> about that...
[02:37] <cwayne1> http://chrismwayne.com/?p=277
[02:37] <jplatte> adb shell hangs
[02:38] <ahayzen> cwayne1, if you have the calls and/or messages scope shown on the today scope, does that dramatically slow down the loading time for you ? (and sometimes causes it to not load anything below the calls scope)
[02:39] <cwayne1> ahayzen: yeah :(
[02:39] <jplatte> and about scopes in general.. not sure. I don't like any of the scopes that I actively do stuff, and haven't found many that just show information passively that I really like.
[02:39] <cwayne1> that's supposed to be fixed in ota8 IIRC
[02:39] <ahayzen> :( ooo :-)
[02:39] <cwayne1> jplatte: do you have any suggestions for specific ones you might like more?
[02:39] * ahayzen wishes mako had the nearby aggregator
[02:40] <jplatte> I know there is something like this, but it either didn't work or there was some big problem with it, but I like stuff like "Daily random XKCD scope"
[02:40] <ahayzen> hmm but i'm on rc-proposed that should be fixed for me :') lol
[02:40] <jplatte> Which would also be one scope that would massively suffer from not being pre-loaded
[02:40] <cwayne1> ahayzen: ill check with the dev tomorrow
[02:41] <ahayzen> i think its better than before, but still slow
[02:41] <jplatte> I'm not gonna wait a full second for this thing that might be nice to see, but I don't actually need
[02:41] <cwayne1> jplatte: ha, i did do an xkcd one, but admittedly havent tested it in quite some time
[02:41] <ahayzen> cwayne1, what about if you could make your own aggregator on the device
[02:41] <cwayne1> jplatte: that's fair
[02:41] <ahayzen> like a "My Scope" ... where i go .. i want the BBC News...the XKCD ..the Local Music
[02:41] <cwayne1> ahayzen: that idea was thrown around a lot, im not sure what became of it
[02:41] <ahayzen> could that even be a thing
[02:42] <cwayne1> in theory
[02:42] <jplatte> so yeah, the only scope besides apps and store I have 'favorited' is today, which is kinda nice I guess? but I could totally do without it
[02:42] <cwayne1> jplatte: but i mean do you have any specific ones you would use?
[02:42] <cwayne1> like services that would fit well to a scope that dont exist as a scope today
[02:43] <ahayzen> cwayne1, do local train/bus times appear on the nearby scope ?
[02:43] <cwayne1> ahayzen: nope, but they could if someone found a good api for them
[02:43] <cwayne1> ahayzen: it could work on a local level
[02:43] <ahayzen> that'd be pretty cool for some places
[02:44] <jplatte> Use as in actively do something in? I'm having a hard time imagining how a scope would be better than an app for anything I would do actively. But if it's also about passive one like today and XKCD, I guess a few more that just show info that would go on the "welcome screen".
[02:44] <jplatte> Because that welcome screen, if ever possible, will be replaced by media control buttons for me
[02:44] <ahayzen> jplatte, ok flip the question, which apps do you tend to use a lot? (that could then maybe be scopes)
[02:44] <cwayne1> well generally a scope is supposed to be about consuming content rather than actively doing stuff
[02:44] <jplatte> #1 App by faaaar: Music
[02:45] <ahayzen> music \o/
[02:45] <jplatte> Then Timer
[02:45] <jplatte> Oh, I guess that would be nice as a scope
[02:45] <jplatte> hm, am I actually using any web app scopes often..?
[02:45] <ahayzen> jplatte, we are considering taking the local music scope into the music-app click... so then we could expose the playlists to the scopes and then like most played/recent etc all from the scope
[02:45] <ahayzen> would that be useful ?
[02:46] <jplatte> dunno
[02:46] <jplatte> music control indicator would be useful :P
[02:46] <ahayzen> thats inprogress :-P
[02:46] <jplatte> but yeah, about the music scope..
[02:46] <jplatte> or actually the "My Music" scope, because the aggregation scope was just awful the last time I had a look at it
[02:47] <ahayzen> yeah i talking specifically about the My Music one
[02:47] <ahayzen> *i'm
[02:47] <jplatte> I'm pretty sure I haven't started playing music from it a single time
[02:47] <ahayzen> same, and i'm a music-app dev :-)
[02:47] * cwayne1 uses the untappd scope and the fitbit scope constantly
[02:47] * cwayne1 also wrote the untappd scope and the fitbit scope though..
[02:47] <jplatte> It has been there for a while, might actually be the fourth favorite scope I forgot, but I only ever scrolled though it, thought how awful it looked because of missing images, and gone on doing something else
[02:48] <jplatte> okay yeah not gonna use fitbit, am slightly underweight :D
[02:48] <jplatte> what's untappd though?
[02:48] <ahayzen> jplatte, yeah i think the navigation of it could be improved and if it exposed data from the music-app it could be pretty cool
[02:48] <jplatte> ahayzen: to quote myself: dunno ^^
[02:48] <cwayne1> jplatte: beer info
[02:48] <jplatte> oh
[02:48] <jplatte> yeah not my thing either
[02:49] <jplatte> (my music scope) I just don't see how it's any better than using the app directly
[02:49] <ahayzen> yeah once you have the app open i agree
[02:49] <jplatte> so what's the use case here?
[02:50] <ahayzen> you can search your music and select an album to play without having to open the app first, i guess
[02:50] <jplatte> saving on startup time of the app?
[02:50] <ahayzen> yeah :-/
[02:51] <jplatte> well I guess this might be useful for people who don't have it running constantly
[02:51] <jplatte> that reminds me.. how near are we to the music control indicator?
[02:51] <ahayzen> but say you were on the Music aggregation, you could search for an Artist and you would then get results locally, on 7digital, any events they are playing, soundcloud etc
[02:51] <ahayzen> jplatte, "close" ;-)
[02:51] <jplatte> because that will include the change where the music app doesn't actually have to run anymore when music is being played, right?
[02:52] <ahayzen> jplatte, we missed OTA8 but we are working with upstream, fingers crossed for OTA9 :-) lol our side is in this branch https://code.launchpad.net/~music-app-dev/music-app/media-hub-bg-playlists-rework
[02:52] <jplatte> I fear my phone is gonna be even more annoying to use, because the music app will constantly have to restart :S
[02:52] <ahayzen> jplatte, eventually yes it won't have to run, but you will be able to control from the indicator :-)
[02:53] <jplatte> I still want it to run in the backgroudn though, just to save on startup time! :D
[02:53] <ahayzen> and when the app comes out of suspend it should jump back to the same spot you were
[02:53] <ahayzen> haha, what's our startup time now ~3seconds IIRC ?
[02:53] <jplatte> can't test :/
[02:53] <ahayzen> (note it was much worse before we halved it last year)
[02:54] <jplatte> but is suspend wakeup time low?
[02:54] <ahayzen> idk, we have never been suspended :-) lol
[02:54] <jplatte> do the wakeup times vary from app to app?
[02:54] <ahayzen> depends what the app needs to load
[02:55] <jplatte> that sounds like a yes
[02:55] <jplatte> also, I just checked the files that are being flashed onto my phone
[02:55] <ahayzen> eg we have quite a few multimedia libraries to load, that say the weather app doesn't need to load
[02:55] <jplatte> this can never take this long
[02:55] <jplatte> it's been running since 40min
[02:55] <jplatte> it's 570MB of data
[02:55] <ahayzen> is the device doing anything visibly ?
[02:55] <jplatte> nope
[02:56] <jplatte> hasn't been since going into recovery mode
[02:56] <ahayzen> hmm i don't know i'm afraid
[02:56] <jplatte> just a orange ubuntu on a white circle on a purple background
[02:56] <ahayzen> spinning ?
[02:56] <jplatte> nope
[02:56] <jplatte> cwayne1: is it safe to ctrl+c ubuntu-device flash in this state?
[02:57] <jplatte> ugh whatever
[02:58] <jplatte> wait what :O
[02:58] <jplatte> I have a recovery menu! :)
[02:58] <ahayzen> :-)
[02:58] <jplatte> buutthe factory reset says it will wipe all user data
[02:59] <jplatte> I have a feeling this will *only* reset user data
[02:59] <jplatte> that's the one thing I want to keep :D
[02:59] <ahayzen> :-/ i would take a backup
[02:59] <jplatte> hm, did a cache wipe
[02:59] <jplatte> don't think that's gonna help but hey :D
[03:00] <jplatte> apparently I can just restart the device-flash..
[03:00] <jplatte> at least I don't get an error message
[03:00] <jplatte> buut it doesn'tseem to be doing anthing either
[03:00] <jplatte> reboot...
[03:01] <jplatte> aand...
[03:01] <jplatte> in recovery mode again
[03:01] <jplatte> ubuntu-touch/rc/bq-aquaris.en
[03:01] <jplatte> ubuntu-touch/rc-proposed/bq-aquaris.en
[03:02] <jplatte> the first is the standard aquaris image, right?
[03:02] <jplatte> what's the second one?
[03:02] <jplatte> is proposed some sort of thing that gets deemed-as-stable-updates a little sooner or sth?
[03:03] <ahayzen> jplatte, probably best to read this page https://developer.ubuntu.com/en/start/ubuntu-for-devices/image-channels/
[03:08] <jplatte> wow the channel selection guide gives me nonexistent channels
[03:08] <jplatte> I kinda want devel
[03:08] <ahayzen> ...you likely don't want devel...
[03:09] <jplatte> why?
[03:09] <ahayzen> either rc or rc-proposed
[03:09] <ahayzen> like no QA at all
[03:09] <ahayzen> or stable
[03:09] <jplatte> okay, trying rc-proposed/bq-aquaris.en now
[03:10] <ahayzen> that's what i'm on
[03:10] <jplatte> even the fricking download bar is buggy
[03:10] <ahayzen> its doing multiple downloads, so its gets confused lol
[03:14] <jplatte> okay, so it has to push 427MB
[03:14] <jplatte> I think it actually needs hours
[03:14] <jplatte> and it didn't hang last time
[03:15] <jplatte> because the <1MB files already needed a full second
[03:15] <ahayzen> it usually takes like a couple of minutes on my mako IIRC
[03:15] <jplatte> hm
[03:16] <jplatte> well, it's 04:15 here
[03:16] <jplatte> I'm just gonna let it run the next 8 hours :D
[03:16] <ahayzen> :')
[03:16] <jplatte> while I sleep
[03:19] <jplatte> good night
[03:19] <ahayzen> o/
[07:32] <dholbach> good morning
[09:17] <popey> dholbach, beuno do warnings trigger manual review in the store? (someone complained that their app has taken ages to be reviewed, it was stuck in manual review, and I looked and it's the vcs .excludes file again)
[09:18] <dholbach> popey, maybe we need another category for app reviews, maybe "notification" or something, which allow the app developer to publish regardless
[09:19] <dholbach> jdstrand should be part of this discussion as well
[09:19] <popey> yeah, I haven't been checking for apps as much recently because they generally all go through
[09:19] <dholbach> I realise that this is irritating and creates additional work, but as I said yesterday I feel there are valid cases where vcs files in the package are a problem
[09:20] <popey> sure, i just wasn't aware this was happening until this week, so will now have to check for manual review needed more often
[09:20] <dholbach> 1) huge vcs history, 2) proprietary app are two reasons which come to my mind
[09:20] <popey> sure, I understand why
[09:20] <dholbach> I agree we should discuss this
[09:20] <popey> it's just breaking the whole automated things
[09:21] <popey> I don't want us to go back to the bad old days where stuff sits there for weeks, untouched
[09:21] <popey> Because there's a giant queue of stuff for manual review, just because it has a .excludes file in it
[09:22] <popey> and actually, the .excludes file is put there by our sdk!
[09:23] <dholbach> jdstrand, ^
[09:23] <dholbach> or hang on, I'll file a bug
[09:24] <dholbach> popey, so removing .excludes would make you happy for now? in that case I'll make the bug just about that
[09:24] <popey> well, we should have the sdk and the review tools line up
[09:25] <popey> having the sdk actually make apps which by default _cannot_ be automagically loaded into the store is broken
[09:25] <popey> whether that's fixing the sdk or the review tools or the store I'm not sure
[09:26] <dholbach> https://bugs.launchpad.net/click-reviewers-tools/+bug/1517378
[09:28] <popey> thanks
[09:29] <popey> will poke jdstrand when he wakes
[12:32] <sverzegnassi> popey, balloons: is Jenkins still down? We have a few branches ready to land, but auto-landing isn't currently enabled.
[14:37] <timp> ahayzen: I fixed the second issue you commented on https://code.launchpad.net/~tpeeters/ubuntu-ui-toolkit/lessHeaderDisabling/+merge/277713
[14:38] <timp> ahayzen: could you try it out with your app?
[14:43] <ahayzen> timp, yup will do, thanks :-)
[14:44] <timp> ahayzen: with the previous change, I made sure not to update 'moving' if unneeded when the height of the flickable contents changed
[14:44] <timp> ahayzen: but in the case of a long list being filtered, also the contentY of the flickable may change.. but that should also not always set 'moving' to true for the header.
[14:44] <ahayzen> ah :-)
[15:05] <timp> zsombi: ^I updated https://code.launchpad.net/~tpeeters/ubuntu-ui-toolkit/lessHeaderDisabling/+merge/277713
[15:06] <zsombi> timp: why don't you take the verticalVelocity into accont to see whether really moves? That supposed to eb changed when the mouse/touch related moves are happening
[15:08] <timp> zsombi: it only matters how much the flickable moves (the header needs to follow it), not how fast
[15:08] <timp> zsombi: the flickable does really move, but the header does not always have to move as well.
[15:08] <timp> zsombi: when the header is exposed and you scroll up, the header stays exposed (doesn't move)
[15:58] <jdstrand> dholbach, popey: .excludes fixed in trunk. really, the sdk probably shouldn't include that in the click, but that is a flat text file and small, as opposed to .git or .bzr, so letting it through
[15:59] <dholbach> <3
[15:59] <popey> <3
[15:59] <dholbach> jdstrand, does https://code.launchpad.net/~dholbach/click-reviewers-tools/1517017/+merge/277679 look god to you too? :)
[16:03] <jdstrand> dholbach: commented
[16:03] <dholbach> thanks
[21:09] <jplatte> ahayzen: I have music player controls in the music indicator! :O
[21:10] <ahayzen> jplatte, hehe ;-)
[21:10] <jplatte> flashing finally worked when I extracted the ubuntu-device-flash executable from the xenial deb package and ran it on my laptop (though it would have worked on my desktop outside the VM as well I guess)
[21:11] <jplatte> will there have to be a system update before next / prev track will work?
[21:12] <ahayzen> jplatte, yup thats all work in progress :-)
[21:13] <jplatte> Okay.. so how does being on rc-proposed change what updates I get? Are there more frequent OTAs, do I just get the features sooner?
[21:14] <ahayzen> jplatte, you get like daily updates other than weekends, of what has been approved by QA that day
[21:14] <ahayzen> jplatte, and then eventually a cut of the rc-proposed is taken and released as a normal OTA to the other users
[21:15] <jplatte> Okay, but what would the update be for when it's stuff like the indicators?
[21:15] <jplatte> Surely it won't be a completely new image whenever something in Unity changes?
[21:16] <ahayzen> yup its a new image each day, usually only around 5-15MB though
[21:16] <jplatte> because all the unity updates I had before were updates for "Ubuntu" in the form of completely new images
[21:16] <jplatte> So that means a restart each update?
[21:16] <ahayzen> yup
[21:16] <jplatte> That sounds like it would get annoying quickly
[21:17] <ahayzen> as a dev it doesn't as you have the later stuff you need to be working with, but as a user yes it probably will
[21:17] <ahayzen> depends if you want to be on the latest or the most stable
[21:17] <jplatte> I definitely like to see all the latest stuff
[21:18] <jplatte> didn't know rc-proposed was this bleeding-edge though
[21:18] <ahayzen> like you don't *have* to update every day, you can update at the end of the week and just download a slightly larger download
[21:19] <jplatte> Whaat? No, I can't just not check for updates if I know there will be one almost every day :D
[21:19] <ahayzen> ;-)
[21:19] <ahayzen> i usually just update when i wake up
[21:19] <jplatte> So how do I know what changed? Do I have to subscribe to some Mailing List? :/
[21:20] <ahayzen> its on the landing emails or just look at the diff located...
[21:21] <ahayzen> http://people.canonical.com/~lzemczak/landing-team/ubuntu-touch/rc-proposed/
[21:22] <jplatte> okay, so what are those landing emails?
[21:22] <ahayzen> there are landing emails as well in the ubuntu-phone mailing list that summarise everything
[21:22] <jplatte> oh okay, that would be the ML alternative
[21:22] <ahayzen> eg https://lists.launchpad.net/ubuntu-phone/msg16811.html
[21:23] <jplatte> I guess I'll have to write a small script to do something once there is a new file in that people.canonical.com directory
[21:23] <jplatte> Don't like email
[21:24] <ahayzen> :-)
[21:26] <jplatte> Sooo, how's the music app development going?
[21:26] <ahayzen> pretty good, lots todo :')
[21:27] <jplatte> Okay, are there any things I already have on rc-proposed that I didn't have before? Haven't noticed anything yet
[21:28] <ahayzen> not for music, because its a click whatever we put in the store you get on stable and rc-proposed
[21:28] <jplatte> oh, right
[21:29] <ahayzen> no beta store yet :-/
[21:29] <jplatte> what's the next update gonna bring, then?
[21:29] <ahayzen> bump to ubuntu components 1.3
[21:29] <jplatte> smaller header bar?
[21:29] <ahayzen> jplatte, look at the unreleased section of this http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~music-app-dev/music-app/trunk/view/head:/debian/changelog
[21:29] <ahayzen> yeah
[21:29] <jplatte> that's a thing I noticed in the settings ^^
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[04:44] <dupingping> https://bugs.launchpad.net/lightdm/+bug/1517309
[05:38] <pitti> smoser, slangasek: booting with systemd.log_target=console will make the logging visible to the console if you don't want it in the journal; systemd.log_level=debug only increases verbosity of systemd itself -- if you want also kernel debugging, use "debug" (the kernel reads that by itself)
[05:39] <pitti> logging to kmsg is also useful in some cases, mostly if the journal is broken
[05:40] <pitti> sarnold, jetsaredim: err, do you still see bug 1511376 with current images? I'm not aware of anything else right now that still creates broken /etc/mtab, what/how did you install?
[05:40] <pitti> and yes, you can ignore kdbus, it's not at all related
[05:40] <jetsaredim> pitti: it got sorted
[05:40] <jetsaredim> thanks
[05:41] <pitti> jetsaredim: still some installer problem?
[05:41] <jetsaredim> turns out systemd was complaining about a fstab entry for a mdadm device that had yet to be created in the boot cycle
[05:42] <pitti> that still sounds like a bug
[05:42] <jetsaredim> it was a user-created md
[05:42] <jetsaredim> if that matters
[05:43] <jetsaredim> I regularly have issues with the system every time it reboots having to go in and manually stop & re-assemble the dev
[05:43] <pitti> I mean, MD arrays are supposed to be auto-assembled at boot, and if fstab wants to mount something from it it should wait until that has happened
[05:43] <pitti> so apparently the waiting part works, but not the assembly
[05:43] <jetsaredim> it certainly waited
[05:43] <jetsaredim> yea
[05:43] <jetsaredim> not sure what's with my config i don't reboot the system that often so it only comes up about twice a year
[05:44] <jetsaredim> its like the auto-config that's supposed to happen on boot is just not smart enough to do it right
[05:45] <jetsaredim> when the system's finally up and I can login I literally just have to run "mdadm -S <dev>; mdadm --assemble <dev>" and all is right with the world
[05:47] <jetsaredim> which you'd *think* would work during boot too...
[07:13] <nils17> Does any one have an idea: when executing the command (alt+f2) gksudo xfce4-terminal I get the warning "granted permissions without ask for password"... do you know where this setting is stored? (to disable it)
[07:32] <dholbach> good morning
[07:35] <FourDollars> pitti: Could you help to review https://code.launchpad.net/~fourdollars/unity-settings-daemon/fix-lowest-brightness/+merge/277326 for https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/1381625 ?
[07:38] <pitti> FourDollars: that looks more or less like a straight port of the upstream gnome-settings-daemon heuristics, right?
[07:38] <FourDollars> pitti: yes
[07:41] <pitti> replied
[07:42] <pitti> FourDollars: this is loads better than https://code.launchpad.net/~kaihengfeng/unity-settings-daemon/add-brightness-limit-mechanism/+merge/277416 :)
[07:42] <FourDollars> pitti: yup
[07:44] <FourDollars> pitti: Thx a lot. BTW, when will it be merged into lp:unity-settings-daemon if everything is OK?
[07:46] <pitti> FourDollars: it's CI train managed, so I guess you can just reuqest a landing
[07:48] <FourDollars> pitti: How can I request a landing?
[07:48] <pitti> FourDollars: there's a new system, https://requests.ci-train.ubuntu.com/
[07:48] <pitti> I haven't used it myself either yet, but hopefully not too different from the old spreadshet
[07:49] <pitti> otherwise the desktop team can certainly help you with that
[07:49] <seb128> that system is to do landings though
[07:49] <seb128> not to request somebody else to do one for you
[07:49] <pitti> right, but can't FourDollars request/do a landing?
[07:49] <seb128> and we do regular u-s-d landings when there are enough changes to justify one
[07:49] <pitti> ah, ok
[07:49] <seb128> pitti, dunno what team membership is needed
[07:49] <seb128> if you have upload rights you can
[07:50] <seb128> but FourDollars probably doesn't have upload rights on the desktop set
[07:50] <FourDollars> Yup, I don't have the upload rights.
[07:50] <pitti> seb128: I thought that was the purpose of the train?
[07:50] <pitti> most phone developers don't have archive upload rights either
[07:52] <seb128> right
[07:52] <seb128> I think there is a lp team you need to join though
[07:52] <FourDollars> Ha~ After I login https://requests.ci-train.ubuntu.com, there are many pages I can not access.
[07:52] <seb128> better to ask on #ubuntu-ci-eng
[08:23] <LocutusOfBorg1> dupingping, hi, you there?
[08:23] <LocutusOfBorg1> wrt your virtualbox pkg join request
[08:24] <dupingping> LocutusOfBorg1: yes, i'm here.
[08:24] <LocutusOfBorg1> why did you request to join?
[08:24] <LocutusOfBorg1> that team is well... empty
[08:24] <dupingping> debian virtualbox team?
[08:25] <LocutusOfBorg1> you asked to join to the ubuntu virtualbox team, not the debian one
[08:25] <LocutusOfBorg1> I maintain virtualbox, but I use the alioth debian infrastructure for doing it
[08:25] <LocutusOfBorg1> anyway, do you plan to contribute in virtualbox?
[08:25] <dupingping> yes, right.
[08:26] <dupingping> And what is launchpad.net url for join?
[08:27] <LocutusOfBorg1> https://alioth.debian.org/projects/pkg-virtualbox
[08:29] <dupingping> LocutusOfBorg1: I created a new account.
[08:30] <dupingping> It shows me, https://launchpad.net/~pkg-virtualbox-devel and "Debian Virtualbox Team" team.
[08:30] <dupingping> wow, I have been joined.
[08:30] <dupingping> thank you.
[08:30] <LocutusOfBorg1> yes, but there is nothing to do on launchpad
[08:30] <LocutusOfBorg1> you need to apply to alioth
[08:31] <dupingping> oh, yes.
[08:36] <dupingping> I logged in to alioth, LocutusOfBorg1
[08:41] <LocutusOfBorg1> before accepting you I would like to see some patches, or some work on virtualbox
[08:41] <LocutusOfBorg1> it is a really deep package, and *really* difficult to maintain
[08:42] <dupingping> yes, i'll show a patch on oracle i made.
[08:42] <LocutusOfBorg1> e.g. you might start with testing this https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/virtualbox/+bug/1517161 :)
[08:42] <dupingping> can you see https://forums.virtualbox.org/viewtopic.php?f=37&t=74546&p=345693#p345693 ?
[08:42] <LocutusOfBorg1> "You are not authorised to read this forum."
[08:43] <dupingping> yes, perhaps, you are not a virtual box contributor on oracle?
[08:43] <dupingping> virtualbox 5.0.x's revision r58717 is my patch.
[09:23] <cpaelzer> smb and I were discussing about the proper use of debian/watch
[09:23] <cpaelzer> we wondered if it should be encoded in a way to refer to the latest "possible" tarball
[09:24] <cpaelzer> or the latest tarball to the currently packaged version
[09:24] <cpaelzer> e.g. if we have Package-2.0 - should it
[09:24] <cpaelzer> a) only fetch and report 2.0.x updates
[09:24] <cpaelzer> b) or any >2.0 updates
[09:24] <cpaelzer> rbasak (and others) ^^ ?
[09:36] <pitti> cpaelzer: if you package multiple major upstream series, restricting it to the current microversion of that series seems adequate
[09:44] <LocutusOfBorg1> hi folks, is the ci sleeping today?
[09:44] <LocutusOfBorg1> http://autopkgtest.ubuntu.com/packages/v/virtualbox/xenial/amd64/
[09:44] <LocutusOfBorg1> I don't see the tests going
[09:47] <FourDollars> pitti: I saw https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/1381625 is changed to "Won't Fix" by you. Could you help to change it back to Confirmed?
[09:48] <pitti> FourDollars: ah, you can't? done
[09:48] <pitti> ("in progress")
[09:48] <FourDollars> pitti: I don't have the permission to do that.
[09:49] <FourDollars> pitti: In fact, I also want to fix it in trusty. But I don't have the permission to also affect trusty series too.
[09:51] <pitti> FourDollars: added
[09:51] <FourDollars> pitti: thx
[09:57] <cpaelzer> pitti: thx
[09:59] <rbasak> cpaelzer: it's entirely up to you. For an Ubuntu-only package there isn't anything that runs uscan automatically for you. So debian/watch is only as useful as your ability to run uscan. So make uscan do what you want :)
[10:01] <cpaelzer> rbasak, thanks++
[10:19] <FourDollars> pitti: Could you help to set https://code.launchpad.net/~fourdollars/unity-settings-daemon/fix-lowest-brightness/+merge/277326 as a top approved?
[10:19] <pitti> FourDollars: done
[10:19] <FourDollars> pitti: Cool. Thx.
[10:40] <Laney> cjwatson: What's the status on the ppc64el/wily upgrade?
[10:41] <Laney> We have gtk+3.0 -> mir -> liburcu blockage coming up. :)
[10:43] * Laney sees some comments on the ticket
[10:57] <cjwatson> Laney: waiting for IS to see if wily images work on arm64 this time, then I should be able to ask for ppc64el/production shortly after
[10:59] <Laney> 'k
[11:11] <cjwatson> Laney: ah, progress on the ticket so I've replied asking for ppc64el/production
[11:12] <Laney> cjwatson: Oh, great, thanks
[11:51] <dupingping> hi lightdm developers.
[13:46] <smoser> pitti, thanks for following up.
[13:46] <pitti> smoser: what? where?
[14:23] <Mirv> could a core-dev do a QA acked copy to xenial (train is not understanding our switch of one binary package to new source package, so publishing manually): ./copy-package --from=~ci-train-ppa-service/ubuntu/landing-005 --from-suite=xenial --to=ubuntu --to-suite=xenial-proposed -b ubuntu-ui-toolkit - everything else is done
[14:24] <Mirv> ticket https://requests.ci-train.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/670
[14:48] <pitti> Mirv: done
[16:41] <MrBIOS> good morning, would anyone who is familiar with the casper/livecd boot process happen to be around? I’m trying to debug some stuff and not having much luck
[17:25] <MrBIOS> bdmurray: ping
[17:27] <bdmurray> MrBIOS: hi
[17:27] <MrBIOS> bdmurray: I wanted to ping you regarding an (old, sadly) casper ticket https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/casper/+bug/504103
[17:28] <MrBIOS> any reason why that’s gotten zero love in four years? :"(
[17:29] <bdmurray> MrBIOS: Is that really the question you want me to respond to?
[17:30] <MrBIOS> well, if there’s a known workaround, I’d happily employ that
[17:30] <MrBIOS> I’m unfamiliar with the Ubuntu bug triage process
[17:30] <MrBIOS> all I really want to do is accomplish an install
[17:31] <Laney> xnox: you want to take the mdadm merge off me?
[17:31] * Laney spots the new maintainer :)
[17:31] <bdmurray> There are lots and lots of bugs and this one only affects a couple of people, based off the bug, and is something of a corner case.
[17:33] <bdmurray> Are you trying to install a desktop version of Ubuntu?
[17:35] <MrBIOS> bdmurray: yes, I’m definitely in corner-case-land
[17:36] <MrBIOS> deep into it. I should set up a fort
[17:36] <MrBIOS> out of curiosity, do you guys accept man page improvements? :)
[17:37] <bdmurray> MrBIOS: Of course we'd accept a fix.
[17:40] <MrBIOS> bdmurray: I’m also getting an error when scripts/casper-bottom/25adduser gets called, where the step fails with “pwconv: failed to change the mode of /etc/passwd- to 0600” and I have no idea why. Is that a known issue? I see it a lot in google searches, but not as the focus of attention
[17:41] <MrBIOS> this is unfortunate, since I then have no way to log in to examine log files to figure out why things aren’t progressing further
[17:41] <bdmurray> What release are you installing and how did you create the usb stick?
[17:41] <MrBIOS> this is 16.04, and I DD’ed the ISO to the stick.
[17:42] <MrBIOS> the same thing happens with 15.10 and earlier though
[17:56] <tsg> micahg: can you please comment on https://bugs.launchpad.net/trusty-backports/+bug/1515710? what is needed to resolve this - there are 3 openstack bugs that are pending on this request, so I can provide any help needed
[17:57] <tsg> micahg: the trusty and precise backports are more critical
[18:02] <Laney> cjwatson: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/liburcu/0.9.1-2/+build/8293095 excellent
[18:02] <cjwatson> Laney: liburcu built now; will just need a bit of proposed-NBS cleaning
[18:02] <Laney> hah
[18:02] <cjwatson> yep :)
[18:02] <cjwatson> ppc64el guests are wily now
[18:02] <Laney> thanks for getting that fixed
[18:02] * Laney nods
[18:03] <cjwatson> np
[18:03] <Laney> maybe autopkgtest will be less extremely backed up by tomorrow morning
[18:03] <Laney> gtk's triggered tests have barely moved all day
[18:03] * Laney floats some more clouds
[18:03] <slangasek> according to pitti the queue is about a day long currently
[18:07] <cjwatson> Laney: liburcu2 proposed-NBS cleaned up too. so now it's just whatever remains from that library transition
[18:07] <cjwatson> (2 -> 4)
[18:08] <Laney> Yeah. I'll look when update_output.txt has something to say about the matter tomorrow
[18:08] <Laney> 'night
[18:59] <lpotter> is there any way to edit my comments on a bug in launchpad?
[18:59] <dobey> no
[19:17] <smoser> hey
[19:18] <smoser> is this a known issue
[19:21] <lpotter> awe: ping
[19:21] <awe> lpotter, pong
[19:22] <lpotter> awe: in regards to nm bearer plugin. upstream has been refactored a bit, so it might benefit to use that
[19:22] <lpotter> I thought it had already been updated to it
[19:23] <awe> lpotter, has the code been released by upstream yet? or is it just part of their latest devel?
[19:23] <awe> I'm super new to the Qt codebase
[19:23] <awe> I only started looking at as I started chasing this bug
[19:23] <lpotter> I am sure it was released
[19:24] <awe> ok, I'll poke around this afternoon
[19:24] <awe> it'd be great if they've already fixed this match rule leak
[19:24] <awe> it looks to me like a ref count problem
[19:25] <awe> as I'm never seeing the match rules ever get released by QDBusConnectionPrivate
[19:25] <lpotter> well, I refactored all objects so the are derived from QDBusAbstractInterface
[19:26] <lpotter> the old code is pretty fugly
[19:27] <awe> lpotter, I think the current code does that
[19:28] <awe> eg. QNetworkManagerInterfaceAccessPoint does so
[19:29] <awe> and it's the obect that's not properly disconnecting a signal watch for "PropertiesChanged"
[19:29] <awe> it also apparently sends a "GetAll" in response to the "PropertiesChanged" signals
[19:29] <awe> which is kinda broken too
[19:31] <lpotter> hmm.. I must have wrong ubuntu repo or something. all I see is original really ugly code
[19:31] <awe> well.... I've actually downloaded the source package from the phone overlay PPA
[19:32] <awe> as I didn't want to hunt for the VCS
[19:32] <lpotter> upstream uses the property map from PropertiesChanged
[19:32] <awe> when you say upstream, do you mean the 5.5 release, or code in devel branch?
[19:33] <awe> I just cloned the git5 repo...
[19:33] <lpotter> should be 5.5 but I could be wrong. I've lost track of Qt releases
[19:33] <awe> this is a slippery slope
[19:33] <awe> lpotter, k
[19:34] <awe> I'll take a look this afternoon... so close to solving this bug, which has a *huge* perf impact
[19:35] <lpotter> yes 5.5.0 release has the changes
[19:36] <awe> ok; I'll def compare our code to that branch then
[19:36] <lpotter> :q
[19:41] <micahg> tsg: commented
[19:45] <lpotter> awe: but then the problem will be those blocking dbus GetAll calls when those objects are created. Which cannot really be changed as QNAM depends on syncronous backends
[19:45] <awe> lpotter, so... in the bug I'm working on, it sounded like "blocking" was an ambiguous term
[19:45] <awe> are you describing "blocking IO"?
[19:45] <lpotter> blocking as it waits until is gets an answer
[19:45] <awe> or apparmor "blocking"?
[19:46] <awe> got it
[19:46] <awe> we're on the same page then
[19:46] <lpotter> :)
[19:46] <awe> Mirv mentioned something about "apparmor blocking"
[19:46] <lpotter> there's that too.
[19:47] <awe> I care less about that, as it's a confined app problem, and I'll let others solve it
[19:47] <lpotter> which is why I wrote and suggested the connectivity-api plugin
[19:47] <awe> I'm just trying to ensure the plumbing works when used by unity, maliit, ...
[19:47] <awe> and doesn't gum up the rest of the system
[19:47] <awe> we have a security team to worry about apparmor, and they're all smarter than me anyways...
[19:47] <awe> ;D
[19:48] <lpotter> :)
[19:48] * awe hopes the qt submodules don't eat all his diskspace
[19:48] <lpotter> at least its not aegis
[19:50] <lpotter> because of app armor restrictions on phone, all thats really needed in bearer is connected/disconnected
[19:50] <awe> for confined apps you mean?
[19:51] <awe> because the system apps need to distinguish between connected 'wifi' vs. connected '3g'
[19:51] <awe> and I think every process also needs to know about flight-mode
[19:51] <awe> and/or individual 3g blocked, wifi blocked
[19:52] <lpotter> do they use QtBearerNetwork?
[19:52] <lpotter> I meant for things using QNetworkAccessManager and QNetworkRequest & friends
[19:53] <awe> it's a bit confusing, and I can't answer all of those questions directly
[19:53] <awe> as I don't know the code bases all that well
[19:53] <lpotter> if they use QNetworkConfigurationManager than yes, that connectivity-api will not be useful
[19:53] <awe> ( I typically work on ofono, NetworkManager, ... )
[19:54] <awe> lpotter, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-rtm/+source/location-service/+bug/1480877/comments/68
[19:54] <awe> this doesn't include all system processes, but it mentions the ones that show up in my dbus scans
[20:01] <lpotter> cleanup code rely's on Qt's own object clean up. but if that is delayed due to parent not getting deleted for long time I can see thats a problem. with app armor on top those signals wont get disconnected straight away.
[20:02] <awe> so again... this is only when used from unity8 directly, which should be totally unconfined
[20:02] <lpotter> hmm maybe QDBus does things differently
[20:02] <awe> I'm assuming if the layer can add dbus signal match rules
[20:02] <awe> it can remove them
[20:02] <awe> if it can't
[20:02] <awe> it's badly broken
[20:02] <awe> I see the correct calls happening in the networkmanager plugin
[20:03] <awe> it's just that qtdbus doesn't seem to be removing the rules
[20:03] <awe> it looks like the rules are ref counted
[20:03] <awe> so someone's holding on to a ref somewhere
[20:03] <awe> I'm rebuilding with a bit more debugging added to qtdbus
[20:33] <lpotter> I think the logic in QNetworkManagerEngine::removeAccessPoint is wrong. Are you seeing the QNetworkManagerInterfaceAccessPoint d'tor getting called?
[20:37] <awe> yes
[20:37] <awe> Also, I enabled QDDBUS_DEBUG=1
[20:37] <awe> before starting Unity
[20:38] <awe> I see a log message that tells me the DBusConnection.disconnect() function succeeded
[20:38] <lpotter> it looks like when an AP is known to the system, the accessPoint object will not get deleted when it is removed
[20:38] <awe> but what I don't see is a corresponding "Removing match rule..." from QDBusConnectionPrivate
[20:38] <awe> it looks like the intention is to reference count them
[20:38] <awe> and remove if/when someone calls disconnect()
[20:39] <awe> and the ref-count == 1
[20:39] <awe> the code in 5.4.1, doesn't explicitly disconnect in that destructor
[20:39] <awe> bottom line is NM is continually adding and removing AccessPoint objects
[20:40] <awe> so the plugin needs to track them, and adjust it's match rules on the fly
[20:40] <awe> otherwise we swamp the dbus daemon
[20:40] <awe> as the plugin just continues to add match rules till WiFi is disabled, or the phone dies and/or reboots
[20:40] <lpotter> I assumed that those got disconnected when it gets desctructed
[20:41] <awe> when what gets destructed? the AccessPoint object?
[20:41] <lpotter> yes. internally to QDbus
[20:41] <awe> I looked at the doc for DBusConnection and it doesn't mention auto-disconnect for signals anywhere
[20:42] <awe> well.. it's not working automatically, and it's not working if I try to explicitly disconnect either
[20:42] <awe> ;(-
[20:43] <lpotter> there is also a problem if two AP's have the same ssid
[20:43] <awe> also, I wrote a small QtCoreApplication and played around with connect/disconnect
[20:44] <awe> and was able to properly add a match rule for the same AP
[20:44] <awe> and then remove it by calling disconnect
[20:44] <awe> so the DBus code works
[20:44] <lpotter> so the engine is holding on to an object :)
[20:44] <awe> lpotter, yea... as previously discussed this is all no-op code
[20:45] <awe> thanks for all your thoughts on this
[20:45] <awe> I'll know more if my build ever finishes
[20:46] <awe> by the way, I diffed our code to 5.5.1 and 5.6
[20:46] <lpotter> I usually try to build only QNetwork library or plugin
[20:46] <awe> and there's very little different in qnetworkmanagerservice/enginer
[20:46] <lpotter> ok
[20:46] * lpotter wonders where that repo is
[20:46] <awe> however there's quite a bit different in qdbusintegrator.cpp
[20:46] <awe> lpotter, the ubuntu repo?
[20:47] <lpotter> yes, with the newer plugin
[20:48] <awe> well, from what I can tell... our version of Qt isn't that different than the Debian package ( at least that's what it looks like from the debian/changelog )
[20:48] <lpotter> there doesnt seem to be one master-of-all
[20:48] <awe> I'm not sure it was worth us importing into a VCS
[20:48] <awe> but Mirv_ would know better than I
[20:49] <awe> again, I just grabbed the source package from the phone overlay PPA, and extracted it locally. Some I working with quilt
[20:49] <awe> the base is 5.4.1+dfsg-2
[20:50] <awe> with the "dfsg-2" being what appears to be the Debian version
[20:50] <awe> I've got the upstream git5 repo cloned though, so that's what I'm using for comparison against our source package
[20:56] <lpotter> it's nearing chaos hour where kids wake up and go to school...
[20:56] <stgraber> awe: +dfsg means that the source tarball was repacked by the Debian maintainer to conform to the Debian Free Software Guidelines, so you'll probably be getting a fair amount of diff compared to upstream just for that
[20:57] <stgraber> awe: there typically is documentation as to how the dfsg tarball was generated in debian/ either in a README or as code in debian/rules
[20:57] <awe> stgraber, thanks!
[20:57] <lpotter> not sure I know how to grab the phone overlay PPA
[21:00] <awe> https://launchpad.net/~ci-train-ppa-service/+archive/ubuntu/stable-phone-overlay/+packages
[21:01] <lpotter> thanks
[21:01] <awe> you can download the orig tarball, debian diff, and dsc files, and reconstruct with dpkg-source
[21:57] <tsg> micahg: thanks - will resubmit using requestbackport - thanks for your attention!
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2015-11-18-#ubuntu-ops
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hi - is wubi.exe discontinued? :(
[02:36] <Unit193> hggdh: Right, hence "IMO"
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2015-11-18-#ubuntu-us-oh
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[03:14] <yano> https://youtu.be/-F-ZBn0Bf_4
[03:14] <jenni> [ Carl Sagan Speaks Zeitgeist (Original) - YouTube ] - https://j.mp/1Pz5TQn
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2015-11-18-#ubuntu-no
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[01:45] <RoyK> - It's 106 miles to Chicago, we got a full tank of gas, half a pack of cigarettes, it's dark, and we're wearing sunglasses.
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2015-11-18-#launchpad
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[08:15] <morphis> is that known that launchpad git repositories loose all tags?
[08:17] <morphis> wgrant: any idea?
[08:40] <wgrant> morphis: Can you provide an example?
[08:40] <wgrant> Tags work fine in general.
[08:53] <morphis> wgrant: I pushed a bunch of tags to https://code.launchpad.net/~libhybris-maintainers/libhybris/+git/libhybris
[08:53] <morphis> but when I clone that repo again they are all lost
[08:53] <morphis> also cgit doesn't show any
[08:53] <morphis> https://git.launchpad.net/~libhybris-maintainers/libhybris/+git/libhybris/refs/
[08:59] <seb128> hey there
[08:59] <seb128> does launchpad has records of who changed translation domains?
[08:59] <seb128> https://translations.launchpad.net/ubuntu-rtm/15.04/+source/unity8/+pots/unity8/+admin got changed to unity89280
[09:13] <wgrant> morphis: There's nothing magical about LP git pushes. Are you sure you pushed them in the first place?
[09:14] <wgrant> Can you try pushing them again?
[09:14] <wgrant> seb128: Any idea when?
[09:14] <morphis> wgrant: sure
[09:16] <seb128> wgrant, between 11-04 and 11-11
[09:16] <morphis> wgrant: http://paste.ubuntu.com/13326374/
[09:16] <morphis> wgrant: I pushed all tags now, before I pushed a single one
[09:16] <morphis> but that didn't help
[09:17] <wgrant> morphis: Wrong URL
[09:17] <wgrant> ~libhybris-maintainers/+git/libhybris vs ~libhybris-maintainers/libhybris/+git/libhybris
[09:17] <morphis> ah damn it
[09:18] <morphis> ahh
[09:18] <morphis> wgrant: sorry for the noise :)
[09:19] <wgrant> morphis: Should that repo be https://git.launchpad.net/libhybris? If so, set it in the git section on https://code.launchpad.net/libhybris/+configure-code
[09:19] <wgrant> Makes the URL a bit simpler!
[09:19] <morphis> yeah
[09:33] <seb128> wgrant, do you have any log of those changes?
[10:03] <wgrant> seb128: Hadn't changed between 2015-10-28 and today AFAICS
[10:04] <wgrant> But all I have is web server request logs.
[10:06] <seb128> hum, k
[11:31] <cjwatson> lifeless: so step 1 there seems like a non-trivial amount of work to set up (bearing in mind that this is being compared against "no work"). can you explain why "local index plus --index-url=foo" is better than "--no-index --find-links=foo", at least for a smallish directory where it doesn't take long for pip to work things out on the fly?
[11:33] <cjwatson> lifeless: blr does have some problem with --find-links that we haven't sorted out yet, but it is working fine for other deployments; https://github.com/wolever/pip2pi seems to be a plausible thing for building a local index but it does seem like more work than not doing it :-)
[16:10] <katyafervent_> Hi all!
[16:11] <katyafervent_> If blueprint has 'Related bug' section filled, will all that bugs change status after blueprint will be implemented?
[16:23] <cjwatson> katyafervent_: No, they're linked for information but that doesn't imply particular workflows such as closing bugs
[16:23] <katyafervent_> cjwatson: ok, thanks
[16:50] <mapreri> #1517510 \o/
[16:52] <mapreri> seems like that as soon as canonical chose to invest in lp once again, suddenly a whole lot of new feature has come to ubuntu (or neighborhood) :)
[16:55] <cjwatson> That one is kind of me off my own bat ;-)
[16:56] <cjwatson> Though prompted by looking into what's needed for by-hash support
[17:02] <mapreri> cjwatson: by-hash you mean that new thing in experimental's apt?
[17:03] <cjwatson> mapreri: Yeah
[17:03] <mapreri> cool
[17:38] <lifeless> cjwatson: he's putting find links into setup.py
[17:38] <lifeless> cjwatson: which pip won't honour unless you also turn it on
[17:42] <cjwatson> lifeless: not in the code of his that I'm looking at he isn't :)
[17:42] <lifeless> cjwatson: secondly IIRC setuptools doesn't have a cli find-links equiv, so when dealing with setup_requires you need to take the replacement index approach
[17:42] <cjwatson> lifeless: he's using it on the pip install command line, and also in .pydistutils.cfg just in case setuptools accidentally gets invoked
[17:43] <cjwatson> lifeless: find_links works fine in .pydistutils.cfg IME
[17:43] <cjwatson> lifeless: we're using it successfully in another project. haven't yet worked out why blr's superficially similar case is failing (because I haven't yet reproduced it myself, because something else is failing first ...)
[17:44] <cjwatson> what we're doing right now in lp:turnip is:
[17:44] <lifeless> cjwatson: ah, so I got looped in when he said he *was* using it in setup.py
[17:44] <lifeless> so, confused wires
[17:44] <cjwatson> pip install --no-index --find-links=file://blah/
[17:44] <cjwatson> and in env/.pydistutils.cfg:
[17:44] <cjwatson> [easy_install]
[17:44] <cjwatson> allow_hosts = ''
[17:44] <cjwatson> find_links = file://blah/
[17:45] <lifeless> ok sure
[17:45] <cjwatson> so I'm happy to switch to index-url if there's a concrete reason it's better, but the "build local index" step seems a bit more complicated than just letting pip.index work it out
[17:45] <lifeless> -f on the pip cli is fine
[17:46] <lifeless> its the find links metadata thats deprecated
[17:46] <cjwatson> right, cool - yeah, that makes sense
[17:46] <lifeless> terrible having the same name
[17:47] <cjwatson> suspect wires got crossed between setup.py and setuptools [metadata] too
[17:58] <lifeless> cjwatson: certainly somewhere :)
[17:59] <cjwatson> yay bazaar.launchpad.net has SHA-2 now
[17:59] <cjwatson> one down, three to go ...
[18:22] <sarnold> woo :)
[18:44] <clivejo> Can anyone give me a brief overview of what Upstream project means in LP?
[18:56] <dobey> clivejo: in what context?
[18:57] <dobey> the "upstream link" in ubuntu packages in the archive?
[18:57] <clivejo> well https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kdeconnect-plasma is a KDE project and part of Kubuntu
[18:57] <dobey> yes
[18:58] <clivejo> its project page is https://community.kde.org/KDEConnect
[18:58] <dobey> the "upstream link" is to link to a series in launchpad on a project in launchpad, if one exists
[19:14] <smoser> help
[19:14] <smoser> $ bzr push --overwrite lp:ubuntu/xenial/cloud-init
[19:14] <smoser> bzr: ERROR: Server sent an unexpected error: ('error', 'xmlrpclib.Fault', '<Fault -1: "Unexpected Zope exception: TypeError: (\'Could not adapt\', <SuiteSourcePackage ubuntu/xenial/cloud-init>, <InterfaceClass lp.code.interfaces.branchtarget.IBranchTarget>)">')
[19:14] <smoser> is this known issue ?
[19:18] <dobey> bzr branch lp:ubuntu/xenial/cloud-init
[19:18] <dobey> bzr: ERROR: Not a branch: "bzr+ssh://bazaar.launchpad.net/+branch/ubuntu/xenial/cloud-init/".
[19:19] <dobey> not sure if that matters
[19:19] <smoser> dobey, well, i had added the --overwrite when it failed without it
[19:19] <smoser> which is probably what confused you.
[19:19] <smoser> but basically i want to create that thing
[19:25] <dobey> smoser: i don't think there are any UDD branches for xenial
[19:25] <dobey> cjwatson: ^^ is that right?
[19:26] <smoser> what am i supposed to do then ? use a team other than 'ubuntu' ?
[19:26] <mgz> yeah, I suspect the thing just didn't get run
[19:27] <mgz> the last few releases either I did it or more recently dimitri
[19:28] <mgz> there's a thread on ubuntu-devel about this
[19:29] <dobey> ubuntu isn't a team
[19:29] <dobey> the "team" that owns the branches is ~ubuntu-branches i think
[19:32] <mgz> ah, there's a new informative mail from colin
[19:32] <mgz> https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel/2015-November/039010.html
[19:37] <dobey> right
[21:05] <cjwatson> dobey: indeed, not right now
[21:06] <cjwatson> smoser: you can push to lp:~some-team-you-are-a-member-of/ubuntu/xenial/cloud-init/xenial
[21:08] <smoser> cjwatson, your're right, i can do that. and i suppose i can probably push to lp:~ubuntu-core-dev/....
[21:08] <smoser> which gets me the same team that could push as before
[21:14] <su_v> cjwatson: would you mind running your despam script again on https://answers.launchpad.net/inkscape ? (currently 10 messages from 9 suspended and 1 active spam account) - thx
[21:15] <cjwatson> su_v: sorry, it'll have to wait, need to give children some attention
[21:16] <su_v> cjwatson: np
[21:22] <wgrant> su_v: Done.
[21:23] <su_v> wgrant: thanks a lot
[21:44] <ki7mt> Hello, can someone have a look at this build error log and help me determine what's gone wrong? It was building before, now it's failing amd64: https://launchpadlibrarian.net/226933083/buildlog_ubuntu-trusty-amd64.wsjtx_1.7.0-r6126-1~ki7mt~trusty_BUILDING.txt.gz
[21:46] <ki7mt> FWIW, i386 and ppc64el built OK, and its now building on armhf
[21:51] <wgrant> ki7mt: Have you retried the build? That looks like a temporary network issue.
[21:54] <ki7mt> wgrant, No sir, I have not. But I can do now.
[21:55] <ki7mt> wgrant, OK trying the rebuild now.
[22:05] <ki7mt> wgrant, It appears that was the problem, as the build is in the Cmake phase, which I don't think it would have made it that far without the required builds deps.
[22:05] <ki7mt> It finished OK: https://launchpadlibrarian.net/226935530/buildlog_ubuntu-trusty-amd64.wsjtx_1.7.0-r6126-1~ki7mt~trusty_BUILDING.txt.gz
[22:05] <ki7mt> Thanks for the help.
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2015-11-18-#kubuntu
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[03:15] <dw__> noob says "howdy"
[03:17] <dw__> is this a format in which I might receieve tech assistance with downloading/installing Kubuntu?
[03:27] <valorie> pfff, ask and disappear
[06:06] <CirclePixel> Is there a way to run the application dashboard (http://linuxbsdos.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/09/KDEMenu3-600x450.png) from terminal?
[06:07] <CirclePixel> I've been to my distro's channel, #kde, and all over google, can't find an answer of if it's possible or not.
[07:18] <Arthur_D> hi, I have an issue with KRunner in Kubuntu 14.04. I want to remove its transparency but I can't seem to find a way to control that
[07:19] <Arthur_D> I've found where I can control its blur, but not transparency - disabling the transparency effect in "Configure desktop effects" does nothing
[07:20] <basse> Arthur_D: i think it comes from the theme you are using
[07:20] <Arthur_D> the reason why I want to disable the transparency is that if there's a dark themed program, the krunner search results becomes nigh unreadable
[07:23] <Arthur_D> probably yes, but in Desktop theme -> Details, "Run command" it says "Air for netbooks" which is the theme I want to use for most stuff, but changing it in this specific instance to e.g. "Aya Run command" does not help either
[07:24] <Arthur_D> maybe both themes have similar transparency, but dunno where to check that or what to further investigate
[07:24] <hateball> Arthur_D: did you reload the session? perhaps it is needed
[07:24] <Arthur_D> didn't try that yet
[07:25] <hateball> or at least restarting krunner I guess
[07:25] <Arthur_D> yeah tried that unless it runs all the time in the background... hmm
[07:25] <hateball> It does
[07:27] <Arthur_D> just tried that, doesn't help - I'll try to log out and log in again, brb
[07:29] <Arthur_D> did not help, but as said maybe Aya has a similar transparency
[07:32] <Arthur_D> changing the whole theme to Aya did help though
[07:34] <CirclePixel> So anyone have an idea about launching the app dashboard as a terminal command
[07:34] <CirclePixel> or at least making some kinda shortcut for it?
[07:34] <CirclePixel> To be clear this is what I'm talking about: http://linuxbsdos.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/09/KDEMenu3-600x450.png
[07:37] <Arthur_D> found it
[07:37] <Arthur_D> it's under "Panel background"
[09:20] <aris_> hi room just intalled kubuntu 15.10 and after that the ppa kubuntu weekly stable in 15.04 worked great now after the first update from weekly stable i get this message about muon(sorry i m new to linux)error loading qml file file:///usr/share/plasma/plasmoids/org.kde.muonnotifier/contents/ui/main.qml:23:1 plugin cannot be loadedfor module org.kde.muonnotifier
[09:24] <hateball> aris_: could you try updating using apt-get and see if that solves the problem?
[09:24] <hateball> assuming you are used to updating using the gui
[09:31] <aris_> yes
[09:32] <amichair> do kde point releases still get backported nowadays? I used to see them about once a month, now I barely see them anymore. Is it just me?
[09:33] <aris_> i searched for the command and i found sudo apt-get update didnt solve the problem
[09:33] <hateball> aris_: "sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade && sudo apt-get autoremove"
[09:34] <hateball> That should make sure you're fully updated, as well clean out old cruft like unused kernels
[09:34] <aris_> my friend all this in one command????
[09:35] <hateball> aris_: you can run them one by one, the && means the next command only happens if the one before ran OK
[09:35] <aris_> thanx
[09:36] <hateball> aris_: "update" checks what is new, "dist-upgrade" installs it, "autoremove" removes old stuff
[09:38] <aris_> yesterday night i did the update today i found the problem after sudo apt get update i get this W: GPG error: http://ppa.launchpad.net wily InRelease: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY A12B6139432062D1
[09:38] <aris_> should i continue with the other commands
[09:39] <Yossarianuk> it means you are missing the gpg key for that PPA repo
[09:39] <lordievader> aris_: Add the key using 'sudo apt-key adv --keyserver keyserver.ubuntu.com --recv-keys <keyid>
[09:47] <aris_> the key is NO_PUBKEY A12B6139432062D1 only A12..... without no_pubkey
[10:03] <aris_> in a fresh install in muon where should i place gpg key for that PPA repo
[10:04] <aris_> and is kubuntu weekly stable ok as a repo
[10:07] <lordievader> aris_: Like I said 'sudo apt-key adv --keyserver keyserver.ubuntu.com --recv-keys A12B6139432062D1
[10:07] <lordievader> '
thanx so far for the help the update finished ok but dist-upgrade says this
[10:18] <aris_> You might want to run 'apt-get -f install' to correct these.
[10:18] <aris_> The following packages have unmet dependencies:
[10:18] <aris_> muon-updater : Depends: libmuon (= 4:5.4.2+git20151106.0036+15.10-0) but it is not installed
[10:18] <aris_> E: Unmet dependencies. Try using -f.
[10:23] <lordievader> What happens when you run that suggestion?
[10:25] <aris_> friend i m thinking i m not a power user maybe i can wait and do just sudo updates in one week maybe it should be ok and after that i remove the weekly stapble ppas
[10:25] <lordievader> The state will likely not change. Besides there is no need to be a power user, that is why we are here ;)
[10:26] <aris_> but i read in planet kde muon is unmaintained
[10:27] <aris_> so the command is apt-get -f install
[10:27] <Schalla> Good morning. After upgrading from 15.04 to 15.10 (system upgrade, no reinstall) my login is really slow. So after the login the desktop loads slowly, and then my taskbar needs about 10-20 seconds to show up, any issues known regarding that issue?
[10:28] <Schalla> (Its a FX-8150 with a SSD, can confirm it was not the case with 15.04)
[10:28] <lordievader> aris_: Yes, does it error?
[10:28] <lordievader> aris_: If it does could you pastebin the output?
[10:30] <aris_> The following packages will be REMOVED:
[10:30] <aris_> muon-notifier muon-updater
[10:30] <aris_> 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 2 to remove and 114 not upgraded.
[10:30] <aris_> 2 not fully installed or removed.
[10:30] <aris_> After this operation, 276 kB disk space will be freed.
[10:30] <aris_> Do you want to continue? [Y/n]
[10:30] <Schalla> aris_: http://paste.kde.org
[10:30] <hateball> Schalla: there is a bug with plasma-nm that should be out soon, it is in backports now iirc
[10:31] <hateball> for the slow login
[10:31] <Schalla> hateball: Just saw it on reddit, I expected something blocking there yup
[10:31] <amichair> Schalla: yes, there was, with bluez looking for bluetooth (even if the pc doesn't have it) synchronously
[10:31] <Schalla> Is there a way to disable bluetooth instead?
[10:31] <aris_> https://paste.kde.org/pvlmpr77r
[10:31] <hateball> Schalla: It doesnt matter
[10:31] <amichair> Schalla: it was already backported, you'll need it from the ppa I think
[10:31] <lordievader> !paste | aris_
[10:32] <lordievader> aris_: Continue ;)
[10:33] <amichair> Schalla: bug #354230
[10:33] <amichair> Schalla: kde bug #354230
[10:34] <Schalla> Yeah just ran apt-get upgrade, got plasma-nm in the list
[10:34] <Schalla> Lets see if that fix it. :)
[10:34] <aris_> muon doesnt exist anymore should i run update again
[10:35] <Schalla> Thanks hateball and amichair
[10:35] <lordievader> aris_: What is the output of 'dpkg -l|grep muon'?
[10:36] <amichair> Schalla: I hope that fixes your issue :-)
[10:36] <Schalla> We will see, sounds exactly like the issue I was having, since it just happens once at boot time its not that bad. :)
aris_: What is the output of 'dpkg -l|grep muon'? is that a command????
[10:38] <Schalla> Yes
[10:38] <lordievader> aris_: Yes, the bit between ''.
[10:39] <Schalla> It lists the package you got installed and filters for muon
[10:39] <aris_> http://paste.ubuntu.com/13327263/
[10:40] <Schalla> https://paste.kde.org/p7jw0dq5h
[10:40] <lordievader> aris_: sudo apt-get install muon
[10:40] <Schalla> ^ those I got installed on a working 15.10
[10:41] <aris_> should i run an update again why not
[10:43] <lordievader> aris_: Sure, go ahead. But install the 'muon' package afterwards.
[10:43] <lordievader> Or not if you are fine with apt ;)
[10:47] <aris_> guys ci stable has a lot of stuff by the way the upgrade from 15.04 to 15.10 was a disaster so i did a clean install in a new partition
[10:50] <aris_> finished but muon nowhere so i guess i have to google more and learn the terminal way
[10:51] <aris_> Thanx everyone for the help and the time. Its time for me to learn some commands
[10:51] <lordievader> aris_: Have you ran 'sudo apt-get install muon'?
[10:52] <aris_> dont know any commands friend thanx again i ll do it
[10:53] <aris_> http://paste.ubuntu.com/13327428/
[10:55] <aris_> anyone here uses weekly stable or only me hahahaha
[10:55] <lordievader> aris_: Interesting, what is the output of 'apt-cache policy muon muon-updater libmuon'?
[11:00] <aris_> http://paste.ubuntu.com/13327510/
[11:00] <AVIVA76Q761> hi
[11:09] <lordievader> aris_: What happens when you try to install libmuon?
[11:11] <aris_> install libmuon how i only know throu gui sorry
[11:14] <aris_> did it http://paste.ubuntu.com/13327681/
[11:14] <lordievader> aris_: Same way ;) 'sudo apt-get install libmuon'
[11:14] <lordievader> aris_: Ah, what is the output of 'apt-cache policy software-properties-kde'?
[11:15] <aris_> http://paste.ubuntu.com/13327716/
[11:17] <lordievader> Hmm, I suppose you can install that: sudo apt-get install software-properties-kde
[11:17] <aris_> lordievader you have great patience with all that hi 5 u rock
[11:18] <lordievader> aris_: Heh, thanks.
[11:18] <aris_> http://paste.ubuntu.com/13327764/
[11:18] <aris_> i thank you
[11:20] <aris_> as i understand weekly stable is not for me in 15.04 though it worked fine
[11:20] <lordievader> This is a deep rabbit hole... What is the output of 'apt-cache policy python3-pyqt5'?
[11:21] <lordievader> Any reason you specifically went with the ci instead of the backports ppa?
[11:22] <aris_> was reading the news and planet kde a simple user who wanted to see the progress only grave bugs could bother me I thought until today
[11:23] <lordievader> Hmm, I'd ppapurge the ci one and install the backports one if I were you.
[11:24] <aris_> http://paste.ubuntu.com/13327836/
[11:25] <Odur> Anybody knows when Framework 5.16 will be packaged?
[11:25] <lordievader> aris_: Is that package installable?
[11:26] <aris_> python3-pyqt5 sou mean???
[11:27] <lordievader> aris_: Yes.
[11:29] <aris_> http://paste.ubuntu.com/13327901/
[11:31] <lordievader> aris_: As I figured. I suppose you see a trend in the command I gave you? You can follow the rabbit hole down to the end, you'll probably find something that depends on a package which should be in the ppa but isn't. Or you decide to purge the ci ppa and (optionally) install the backports ppa.
[11:32] <Odur> And same question about KDE Applications 15.08.3
[11:33] <aris_> lordievader plasma 5.4 was great in 15.04 i will wait some time to see if things get fixed with updates but i have time i dont have the knowledge this situation wil help you find something missing or you are doing that for me
[11:33] <lordievader> Odur: The best answer I can give you is "whenever the packagers get round to it".
[11:34] <aris_> i want to help but it s bad to bother u so many hours sorry again
[11:35] <Odur> lordievader: Yeah, I thought so :) Just wondered because it has always been promptly done before, but now when Riddle has stepped down I'm seeing a slowdown
[11:36] <lordievader> aris_: To be honest I am not entirely willing to go down the rabbit hole any further. I guess, and this is just a theory, you have found a drawback of ci. It is a rather automatic process. Packages are published if they build. There is less checking on wether they are actually installable.
[11:36] <lordievader> As I said before, I'd switch to the backports ppa.
[11:36] <lordievader> Odur: Part of the fire is gone... :(
[11:37] <Odur> Yeah, I've noticed
[11:38] <yofel> ci-daily has an installability check, so that should work, the ci build archives are random build fragments
[11:39] <aris_> lordievader by waiting do i have a chance to see them fixed in a while a dont work on the pc so it s ok
[11:39] <lordievader> I stand corrected ;)
[11:39] <lordievader> aris_: Perhaps, I don't really know.
[11:40] <yofel> Odur: we're still catching up on several months of nobody doing management and our workflow is partially broken. Once that's fixed operations should get a bit faster again
[11:40] <lordievader> \o/
[11:41] <aris_> thanx anyway and try not to spend your time helping so much the newbies you are very very kind thanx for your time and effort
[11:42] <Odur> yofel: Good to hear! Good luck :)
[11:42] <lordievader> aris_: I like helping people ;)
[11:43] <aris_> dude u overdo it careful world is very selfish unfortunately
[11:44] <lordievader> aris_: Doesn't mean I should be ;)
[11:45] <aris_> have a nice day or night all
[11:54] <Odur> yofel: Oh, just noticed that KDE Applications are in Kubuntu-staging ppa. More testing needed?
[12:20] <yofel> Odur: testing feedback to sgclark in -devel would be nice, yes. The packages are marked as testing at least.
[12:29] <Karvers> Necesito ayuda en español con Kubuntu 15.10
[12:29] <Karvers> Por favor es a causa de un Crash en el inicio
[12:29] <hateball> !es | Karvers
[12:30] <Karvers> gracias :D
[12:30] <hateball> :)
[12:34] <Karvers> Nadie responde en ese canal T_T
[13:10] <BluesKaj> Howdy all
[13:21] <Smurphy> Howdy BluesKaj :)
[13:45] <jutta> hi there :)
[13:46] <jutta> how to check, if my sensors are healthy, please ?
[13:48] <BluesKaj> Hey Smurphy, what's up today?
[13:49] <Smurphy> BluesKaj: Not much. Managed to fix a nasty bug in Owncloud... (Well, found a workaround) that cause my NAS to have an average load of 1 ...
[13:49] <Smurphy> Owncloud is broken ... *sigh*
[13:49] <Smurphy> but it's the best we got if we don't want to use Google/Microsoft/Apple cloud...
[13:51] <BluesKaj> well, I keep media on an outboard drive, but my needs are simple, no need for a cloud server
[13:53] <Smurphy> well - got 3 girls and a wife, and we need to keep our calendars and contacts in sync. And - as the girls tend to play a lot around with their phones - they break things quite often.,
[13:53] <Smurphy> Best is to have the data on the cloud by then ;)
[13:53] <BluesKaj> I use dropbox to share files with family which is very rare these days
[13:56] <BluesKaj> my kids are all grown and gone living busy lives , a son and 3 daughters
[13:57] <Smurphy> heh. Big family :) I only share stuff via mail + pgp with my family.
[13:58] <Smurphy> PGP because some keep their stuff on Google or so, and when it is pgp encrypted, even they can't look into it.
[13:58] <Smurphy> *EvilGrinning*
[14:01] <jubo2> Got a full / partition
[14:01] <BluesKaj> we exchange pictures mostly and usually email is sufficient for that
[14:01] <jubo2> what was that 'sudo apt command' to remove the unnecessary files ( there are lot of kernel images and headers no longer used ?
[14:02] <jubo2> sudo apt autoremove ?
[14:02] <BluesKaj> jubo2, sudo apr-get autoremove && sudo apt-get autoclean
[14:02] <jubo2> BluesKaj: apr-get ?
[14:02] <jubo2> typo
[14:02] <jubo2> ok. I run
[14:02] <BluesKaj> ok , typo
[14:03] <jubo2> only 500MB
[14:03] <jubo2> there's gotta be something in /tmp or thereabouts
[14:03] <BluesKaj> your / fills up due to old files hanging around after package updates and upgrades
[14:04] <jubo2> I made / 20GB
[14:04] <BluesKaj> how large is your / partition?
[14:04] <jubo2> I belive the dynamic duo of #kubuntu suggested 15GB would be adequate
[14:04] <hateball> Depending on what you install that might be small. But it should be sufficient for most
[14:05] <BluesKaj> 20G should be plenty unless you have game packages and wine etc
[14:05] <jubo2> BluesKaj: 'df' shows 0% free still
[14:06] <clivejo> Smurphy: Kolab lets you share email, calendars, to-do, notes, files etc. You can self host or subscribe to KolabNow
[14:06] <jubo2> comparing the 1K-blocks and the Used I can see there is ~1GB free there but it just ain't manifesting
[14:06] <jubo2> available 0
[14:07] <BluesKaj> ju well then you obviously have a lot of apps installed
[14:07] <BluesKaj> jubo2,^
[14:08] <Yossarianuk> Smurphy: I wonder how long till governments try to outlaw PGP ....
[14:08] <jubo2> I reboot
[14:09] <jubo2> or should I 'sudo rm -rf *' in /tmp
[14:09] <jubo2> hold on.. /tmp is cleaned upon shutdown isn't it ?
[14:09] <hateball> that's unwise
[14:09] <hateball> yes
[14:09] <BluesKaj> 15G 6.2G 8.1G 44% / here, but I get rid of stuff I don't want and need
[14:09] <jubo2> I reboot?
[14:09] <hateball> isnt /tmp located on ramdisk by default these days?
[14:10] <BluesKaj> only if you move it to a ramdisk
[14:10] <Smurphy> clivejo: I have installed Kolab in the past, and it was a pain to setup and use. And there is much I was not allowed to do (Securing down etc.).
[14:11] <jubo2> or will I just be looking at an unbootable system due to "no space left on device" ?
[14:11] <Smurphy> Reason I have my own implementation of Mail-Server with admin/user UI, Web-Server/Application - and that's it.
[14:12] <BluesKaj> jubo2, what kind of apps do you have installed that take up so much room?
[14:12] <jubo2> hmm..
[14:12] <jubo2> Prlly Kmail now that I think of it
[14:12] <hateball> jubo2: it will boot, root has 5% reserved so the system can survive
[14:12] <hateball> unless you changed it, that is
[14:12] <jubo2> where does it store the thousands of emails I've got
[14:12] <hateball> jubo2: In ~/home somewhere
[14:13] <jubo2> I reboot now
[14:13] <hateball> err, ~/ ;d
[14:13] <jubo2> Got the netbook operational too
[14:13] <jubo2> lovely Kubuntu15.10 64-bit
[14:13] <jubo2> just in case one machine is borked it is good to have more then one computer
[14:13] <jubo2> seeya
[14:14] <hateball> hmmm, I could swear ubuntu moved to /tmp on tmpfs with zram... but I may have been dreaming. I will have to check what I have when I get home
[14:15] <Smurphy> :}
[14:19] <jubo2> /dev/sda8 19645308 9772296 8852036 53% /
[14:19] <jubo2> wheew
[16:32] <nufc179> NEED HELP
[16:34] <nufc179> all the text has gone small after install of nvidia driver on 14.04 have tryed all driver but all the same when i try to change the res nvidia box comes up say somthing like cannot change ect text 2 small 2 read
[16:34] <marco-parillo> Could you describe your problem?
[16:41] <nufc179> its the first prob i have hade with this all other liunx OS i have hade no prob with the res after i have installed the nivdia drivers should i just try the new 15.10
[16:44] <BluesKaj> nufc179 your resolution has increased , just reset your font sizes in system settings>fonts
[16:46] <nufc179> thanks BluesKaj will give that a try if i can see what am doing
[17:20] <t3chguy> Hey guys, since this morning my kubuntu laptop doesn't show anything on the display while in kubuntu. I'm still able to ctrl+alt+1 and run commands after logging in. Any idea? External display also doesn't work and the laptop's own display shows the laptop logo while booting then nothing but backlight
[17:24] <BluesKaj> t3chguy, have updated and upgraded with apt in the VT/TTY ?
[17:25] <t3chguy> I tried, though I cannot be sure that it actually updated anything
[17:25] <t3chguy> Is it possible to update packages from a liveusb?
[17:26] <t3chguy> I had muon updater update everything last night
[17:30] <Sunny_> could you please tell me how to install all necessary codecs via terminal
[17:30] <Sunny_> ??
[17:30] <Sunny_> and which media player is best for kubuntu 15.10
[17:30] <Sunny_> ??
[17:38] <AppAraat> Sunny_: in terms of media players I always went with VLC
[17:41] <Sunny_> thank you "AppAraat"
[17:56] * sudhirkhanger is thinking about installing backports in 14.04. Hope it's stable.
[20:10] <Korbak> Bonjour
[20:10] <Korbak> J'ai un clavier qui fait nawak
[20:10] <soee> !fr
[20:10] <Korbak> Quelque touche ne fonctionnent pa
[20:10] <heinkel_111> !fr
[20:10] <Korbak> Ok ryt
[20:11] <heinkel_111> bonjour Korbak
[20:11] <Korbak> Bonjour heinkel_111
[20:11] <heinkel_111> on n'entend pas le Francais ici
[20:11] <Korbak> Vu
[20:11] <Korbak> Je go FR :)
[20:14] <Smurphy> ah bon ? Je parles francais pourtant :)
[20:15] <Smurphy> s/s//g
[20:50] <jubo2> Heyas
[20:50] <soee> hiho
[20:50] <jubo2> I gonna install Kubuntu15.10 alongside OS X on mi mum's MacBook Pro
[20:50] <jubo2> no hurdles right?
[20:51] <jubo2> The mac disks are shrinkable like NTFS is?
[20:52] <jubo2> and I don't need any stupid AAPL bootloader but can just write the GRUB on /dev/sda right?
[21:03] <amundsen> hi
[21:04] <amundsen> does anybody know if snappy will be the default app installer in 16.04?
[21:07] <mparillo> amundsen: I am unaware of any plans by the Kubuntu team to package KDE apps for snappy. If the Ubuntu infrastructure makes it happen automagically, then maybe.
[22:30] <Leonardo_> hi!
[22:33] <bprompt> allo
[22:33] <Leonardo_> hi, anyone speak portuguese?
[22:33] <bprompt> !pt | Leonardo_
[22:35] <Leonardo_> anyone knows how install amd drivers on kubunt
[22:35] <Leonardo_> ?
[22:36] <bprompt> Leonardo_: hmmm, depends on what form the installation is in I assume
[22:37] <Leonardo_> --buildpkg Ubuntu/wily
[22:37] <bprompt> Leonardo_: but usually, in kubuntu, you can just run --> jockey-kde <-- to check for drivers
[22:40] <Leonardo_> Cmd not found
[22:41] <valorie> jockey is gone, I believe
[22:41] <valorie> we have a driver manager now
[22:41] <Leonardo_> i have adtional drivers to install but i dont know what happens when instal it. the screen crashs afters restart
[22:42] <Leonardo_> after that i need to rm xorg and purge fglrx
[22:42] <valorie> !
[22:42] <valorie> seems extreme
[22:42] <valorie> in krunner, just type driver and the kcm will be your first choice
[22:43] <valorie> this should all be automatic
[22:43] <valorie> !krunner
[22:43] <valorie> pfff
[22:43] <valorie> alt+f2 or more lately, alt+space
[22:43] <valorie> and type driver
[22:43] <bprompt> valorie: well then, I'll just have to make a symlink to the driver manager called "jockey-kde" then =)
[22:44] <valorie> heh
[22:44] <valorie> jockey was showing its age
[22:45] <valorie> also, in the commandline, `sudo dpkg-reconfigure -a` might help
[22:45] <valorie> possibly something didn't finish configuring
[22:47] <VeryBewitching> I'm having a strange issue with KTorrent, I logged a bug on Launchpad about it, but has anyone else experienced KTorrent going into prolonged 'disk sleep' CPU state that causes the UI to become unresponsive? On 15.10
[22:47] <VeryBewitching> Not the whole desktop, just KTorrent itself becomes unresponsive.
[22:48] <valorie> interesting
[22:48] <valorie> I use it all the time to seed all the *buntu ISOs
[22:48] <valorie> no problems here
[22:48] <VeryBewitching> valorie: I seed Kubuntu ISO too
[22:48] <valorie> and that's 87 seeds....
[22:48] <valorie> cool
[22:49] <VeryBewitching> I've had 0 problems with 15.10 so far besides this one.
[22:49] <VeryBewitching> I'm getting ready to wipe out the ktorrent configuration to see if that fixes it.
[22:49] <valorie> I figure there aren't many seeds for some of the rare ISOs so why not take a few mins to set those up
[22:49] <valorie> I have nice bandwidth for it
[22:50] <VeryBewitching> valorie: Ya, I'm on unlimited bandwidth, 100Mbps
[22:50] <valorie> sec
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[01:10] <sergiusens> balloons, hey, do you know how to edit in d.c.c, I'm supposed to have edit rights, but I am failing to find the edit button
[07:32] <dholbach> good morning
[08:14] <fgimenez> good morning
[08:16] <mvo> hey fgimenez and dholbach, good morning :)
[08:17] <dholbach> hey mvo
[08:19] <fgimenez> hey mvo and dholbach :)
[08:20] <dholbach> hola fgimenez
[08:22] <fgimenez> hola dholbach! :) guten Morgen
[08:22] <dholbach> :-)
[10:04] <JamesTait> Good morning all; happy Wednesday, and happy Education Support Professionals Day! 😃
[11:10] <fgimenez> mvo, these errors have begun to show up in the suite execution this morning http://162.213.34.171:8080/job/github-snappy-integration-tests-cloud/53/
[11:11] <fgimenez> mvo, here's the console output http://162.213.34.171:8080/job/github-snappy-integration-tests-cloud/53/consoleFull, search for "FAIL:"
[11:11] <mvo> fgimenez: yeah, I noticed them too
[11:12] <fgimenez> mvo hello-world failed to install: unpack /tmp/hello-world730293314 to /apps/hello-world.canonical/1.0.18 failed with exit status 1
[11:12] <fgimenez> i'll try to reproduce locally in kvm
[11:14] <mvo> fgimenez: thanks
[11:14] <mvo> fgimenez: my kvm did not have network this morning
[11:26] <fgimenez> mvo, same here, 249 is throwing me into emergency mode
[11:31] <mvo> fgimenez: uh, emegerncy mode? fresh install or upgrade?
[11:33] <fgimenez> mvo, i've just generated it with udf
[11:33] <mvo> fgimenez: for me 241->249 works, but I have not tried a fresh one, let me do this now
[12:07] <sergiusens> mvo, ogra_ dpm I took a stance of updating the porting guide, the only thing a bit wonky is all the uEnv.txt comments which were replaced https://gist.github.com/sergiusens/fa40a344ad4b395a99ed
[12:07] <sergiusens> anyone care to look a bit
[12:07] <sergiusens> dpm, I didn't update the guide directly as I couldn't find the `edit` button
[12:20] <dpm> dholbach ^
[12:22] <dpm> sergiusens, we're working in getting the documents directly imported from markdown. But for now, you can also edit the page on the developer site directly: https://developer.ubuntu.com/openid/login/
[12:41] <sergiusens> dpm, ah, so clicking on login last night did nothing, I only had the option to go to myapps in the combo
[12:41] <sergiusens> :)
[12:42] <sergiusens> dpm, feel free to use my markdown as a base ;-)
[12:48] <mvo> fgimenez: fwiw, it seems like there is one bug in the systemd.enable code that I fixed, there is also a issue with systemd-tmpfiles-setup.service that shows as failing
[12:57] <fgimenez> mvo, ok thanks
[13:18] <dpm> sergiusens, hm, what does "did nothing" mean? I see you're a member of https://launchpad.net/~ubuntudeveloperportal-editors, so assuming you had the box ticked in the SSO login, that should get you into the site with edit rights (i.e. you should see the edit toolbar at the top of the browser)
[13:19] <sergiusens> dpm, I had no way to login, the direct link you gave me, logged me in ;-)
[13:20] <dpm> sergiusens, did you have the ubuntudeveloperportal-editors checkbox ticked? SSO always asks for team permissions
[13:21] <sergiusens> dpm, the scopes don't always show up
[13:22] <sergiusens> to be clear, on the top bar I had a 'Log in' button that did nothing, only showd a combo box that took you to 'My Apps'
[13:22] <dpm> sergiusens, not sure we're talking about the same thing. Which scopes?
[13:22] <sergiusens> after I clicked on the link you gave me, (and I suspect the magical openid/login/ at the end helped), I had that 'Log in' turned into 'Sergio'
[13:23] <sergiusens> dpm, by scopes I mean oauth scopes (the checkbox you asked if I had clicked)
[13:23] <sergiusens> and no, I didn't have to click on anything
[13:24] <sergiusens> dpm, to be even more clear and obvious, go into private mode in your browser, then go here http://developer.ubuntu.com/en and try to login ;-)
[13:27] <dpm> sergiusens, my point is that this is the url that should be used for login https://developer.ubuntu.com/openid/login/ , the combo box has no other function that tell you you're logged in (and to log out). I think what might have happened is that you logged in the first time without checking the boxes. So you might need to log out and log in again
[13:28] <dpm> I've just tried it on a private browser to make sure the site is not broken, seems to work
[13:37] <sergiusens> dpm, right, with your magical link I can log in just fine, the problem is, I had no idea that was the only way to login
[13:37] <sergiusens> dpm, I was saying, try to login without going straight to https://developer.ubuntu.com/openid/login/ and try to reach that from the main site ;-)
[13:52] <dpm> sergiusens, did you get a copy of the editor guide? Let me just send it to you
[13:52] <dholbach> sergiusens, taking a look
[14:15] <dholbach> davidcalle, I just tried to help sergiusens and update https://developer.ubuntu.com/en/snappy/guides/porting/ but I got all confused with the eight-col / twelve-col bits
[14:15] <dholbach> can you help me?
[14:15] <dholbach> and can we maybe make this easier somehow?
[14:15] <dholbach> I feel really bad about asking you every time :)
[14:16] <sergiusens> dholbach, davidcalle wait, I need some reviews for that from ogra_ or mvo ;-)
[14:17] <dholbach> ok...
[14:21] <davidcalle> sergiusens, eight-col is text, twelve-col is code, that's the Ubuntu web guidelines, can't do much about it. Also, if you have any suggestions on how to ease the editing process, I'm all ears :)
[14:23] <sergiusens> davidcalle, heh, that was for dholbach I guess.
[14:23] <davidcalle> sergiusens, hah :)
[14:24] <davidcalle> sergiusens, still, I'm open to suggestions :p
[14:24] <sergiusens> davidcalle, my only suggestion is autogenerated d.u.c ;-)
[14:25] <sergiusens> davidcalle, I would like it to use pandoc which supports the github """extensions"""
[14:26] <davidcalle> sergiusens, well, all docs can't be autogenerated, but we could see how to add a markdown editor, that would help for some large docs.
[14:27] <sergiusens> davidcalle, certainly; that is also a great idea
[14:28] <dholbach> davidcalle, once we have the new djangocms landed we can check into adding new modules :)
[14:29] <davidcalle> dholbach :)
[14:45] <mvo> fgimenez: I think I found and fixed the issue, lets see if the next image is better
[14:49] <fgimenez> mvo, great! we haven't yet in place the automated process for creating the images used by jenkins, ping me when ready to upload it
[14:54] <plars> fgimenez: mvo: I'm seeing that issue too with 249, is there a new one building now?
[14:54] <plars> or will it be tomorrow?
[14:56] <mvo> plars: now, should be ready in ~30min
[14:56] <plars> mvo: woo! thanks :)
[14:57] <mvo> plars: well, bbb will be a bit slower and I only tested by live-patching the initrd so it may take another iteration (but I hope not)
[14:59] <plars> mvo: understand, thanks
[15:27] <plars> mvo: looks like it worked :)
[15:38] <mvo> plars: yay, I'm still downloading :/
[15:41] <jdstrand> mvo: hi!
[15:42] <jdstrand> mvo: so, I did snappy update yesterday and rolling edge amd64 r248 didn't have policygen
[15:42] <jdstrand> mvo: so then I upgraded this morning to r249 and it went into emergency mode. looks like plymouht failed?
[15:42] <jdstrand> mvo: is this known?
[15:42] <mvo> jdstrand: r250 from ~5min ago fixes it
[15:43] <mvo> jdstrand: yes, know, plymouth is a red-herring, it was me breaking the initramfs in an unfortunate way
[15:43] <jdstrand> ah
[15:43] <mvo> jdstrand: if you run the update again it should be good
[15:44] <jdstrand> well, I couldn't seem to get a shell that would allow me to do that
[15:44] <jdstrand> that's ok though-- I use kvm snapshots
[15:45] * jdstrand is getting 250 now
[15:47] <jdstrand> mvo: hmm, so, r250 doesn't seem to have policygen either
[15:47] <jdstrand> mvo: is that known?
[15:48] <jdstrand> mvo: basically, yesterday I was in the process of writing the email to the list about it and then I wanted to wait until it was on the image
[15:51] <mvo> jdstrand: uh, that sucks, looks like unfortunate timing between daily build and git importer :/
[15:51] <mvo> jdstrand: give me a sec to check
[15:53] <mvip> hey ricmm_. Thanks for coming out to the BBVA event on Monday.
[15:58] <jdstrand> mvo: ok-- I don't want you to go out of your way for this. I just wanted to make sure things were working as planned
[15:58] <mvo> jdstrand: could you approve my https://myapps.developer.ubuntu.com/dev/click-apps/3966/ ? its the first squashfs based snap for the store
[15:59] <mvo> jdstrand: I'm very thankful that you brought it up
[15:59] <mvo> jdstrand: I triggered a build of snappy and will soon make a new image with it
[16:00] <jdstrand> mvo: can you request a manul review? if I do, then I can't approve it I don't think
[16:00] <mvo> jdstrand: its a bit unfortunate that the turnaround time is close to 24h in the worst case, I merged last afternoon thats something the snappy team needs to discuss/improve :)
[16:00] <mvo> jdstrand: I think I did that now
[16:05] <jdstrand> mvo: that is good timing-- I have a branch that I've been working on to handle squashfs snaps
[16:05] <jdstrand> (for the review tools)
[16:05] <mvo> jdstrand: nice
[16:05] <jdstrand> mvo: so, if you are uploading to the store, that means that snappy has enough implemented to install it?
[16:05] <jdstrand> mvo: I guess when this new image comes out?
[16:06] <mvo> jdstrand: yes, it has enough implementation for this now and it will be useful as a regression test
[16:06] <mvo> jdstrand: its rolling only so should not affect anyone who is not up for the ride
[16:06] <jdstrand> mvo: well, this needs the policygen branch, no?
[16:07] <mvo> jdstrand: the current code will just unpack it, the next image (once I get review) will properly mount it for that the policygen is required
[16:08] <jdstrand> I see
[16:08] <mvo> jdstrand: are you concerned that it might break? I could use something different or a different name
[16:08] <jdstrand> I'll accept and now I have a snap to work with
[16:08] <mvo> jdstrand: great, thanks
[16:22] <elopio> fgimenez: ogra_: I gave up with this when xz was killed because it was consuming too much RAM.
[16:22] <elopio> https://github.com/ubuntu-core/snappy/pull/122
[16:24] <mvo> fgimenez, elopio: could you update the base image to r250 for the integration tests?
[16:24] <mvo> please :)
[16:26] <fgimenez> mvo, elopio i was trying the new jenkins job for automating this and i think it's already done, let me check
[16:27] <mvo> fgimenez: \o/
[16:33] <fgimenez> elopio, ok np, when automated the initramfs resize test could be filtered/annotated like the gadget snap ones, so that we can keep all them together and reuse the helpers
[16:38] <fgimenez> elopio, i've pinned some of the build reports in the jenkins executions for you to have a look, most of the errors will be probably because of the canonistack instances http://162.213.34.171:8080/job/github-snappy-integration-tests-cloud/
[16:48] <elopio> fgimenez: /me looks.
[16:51] <elopio> fgimenez: this looks wrong: Error: unable to create /boot/grub/grub.cfg/grub.cfg: open /boot/grub/grub.cfg/grub.cfg: not a directory
[16:51] <elopio> but I was debugging it yesterday and the test started passing.
[16:51] <elopio> now without the init going crazy I hope it will be easier to debug.
[16:51] <fgimenez> elopio, i'm looking into it right now too :) it's present in the latest 3 executions
[16:56] <fgimenez> elopio, i've tried the fake update manually and it works fine, not sure where does this come from
[16:57] <elopio> fgimenez: my last try last night seemed to be caused by initramfs test being killed and leaving a weird state. I don't see that in this log.
[16:57] <elopio> but let me run dozens today again, and I'll tell you what's going on.
[17:02] <fgimenez> elopio, yes, initramfs hasn't been executed yet, this happens for the three failover test, and it seems that up to this point https://github.com/ubuntu-core/snappy/blob/master/integration-tests/tests/failover_test.go#L57 all goes fine
[17:03] <elopio> I ran only the three failover tests, and couldn't reproduce that. But only a couple of times. I'm not yet sure if it's caused by the full suite.
[17:04] <elopio> moar runs!
[17:04] <fgimenez> elopio, :) it may be related to the slow instances too
[17:05] <fgimenez> but didn't happen before yesterday afaik
[17:12] <fgimenez> leaving, have a nice day o/
[17:46] <mvo> jdstrand: I have more interessting stuff for you :) https://myapps.developer.ubuntu.com/dev/click-apps/3753/
[18:13] <mvo> jdstrand: and the os snap in https://myapps.developer.ubuntu.com/dev/click-apps/3752/
[18:13] <mvo> jdstrand: if those could get in that would be very nice indeed
[18:52] <jdstrand> mvo: re https://myapps.developer.ubuntu.com/dev/click-apps/3753, can you request a manual review?
[18:53] <jdstrand> mvo: same with https://myapps.developer.ubuntu.com/dev/click-apps/3752
[18:53] <jdstrand> man, you are going to keep me busy with the review tools
[18:56] <mvo> jdstrand: ups, I thought I did request that already, sorry. requested it now :)
[18:58] <jdstrand> mvo: done
[18:58] <mvo> jdstrand: \o/
[19:00] <jdstrand> mvo: I think once I teach the tools not to just die on non-click snaps (in progress), these tests will simply see if it is a kernel or os and then flag for manual review. nothing more. if someone wants to add more tests for the review tools for those once things have settled, that would be great
[19:01] <mvo> jdstrand: I think thats totally fine
[21:22] <mvo> jdstrand: hey, fwiw I found and fixed the issue that held the policygen stuff back its now ready but for some reason the import imports are disabled in cron. I asked sil2100 about it but no feedback yet. I will wait until my morning and if its not there by then I will manually import the image
[21:26] <jdstrand> mvip_: ack, thanks
[21:26] <jdstrand> mvip_: sorry
[21:27] <jdstrand> mvo left and you got tab completed :)
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2015-11-18-#ubuntu-za
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[05:18] <mazal> Mornings
[05:32] <superfly> Morning
[06:07] <pieter2627> morning all
[06:26] <mazal> Hi superfly and pieter2627
[07:21] <who_da_fly> Woo! The video of my company is finally up! https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=1RzlAK3VVjM
[07:57] <inetpro> good mornings
[08:17] <mazal> Morning inetpro
[09:58] <Kilos> morning all
[09:58] <Kilos> hehe just made it
[10:19] <mazal> Hi Kilos
[10:19] <Kilos> hi mazal
[10:19] <mazal> How goes ?
[10:29] <Kilos> all goof ty mazal and there
[10:29] <Kilos> good
[10:29] <mazal> Okish , got 2 new toys
[10:29] <Kilos> what
[10:29] <mazal> PS4 for me and a SSD for my pc
[10:30] <Kilos> hahaha
[10:30] <mazal> Going back to Ubuntu completely at home in May. Back the way it should be
[10:30] <Kilos> good
[10:30] <mazal> Gaming over to PS4 now
[10:31] <Kilos> better
[10:31] <mazal> But I am struggling with my pc though , dunno what's up
[10:31] <mazal> Freeze on bios sometimes , 3 usb ports dead , and freeze in OS sometimes as well. Think it is motherboard
[10:31] <Kilos> you corrupted it
[10:31] <Kilos> oh my
[10:31] <mazal> Wasn't me :P
[10:32] <mazal> Eskom maybe , but not me
[10:32] <Kilos> blow board clean and reseat you ram cards
[10:32] <mazal> And can't afford replacement parts
[10:32] <mazal> So still working on a plan for May
[10:33] <Kilos> its most likely repairable man
[10:34] <Kilos> unplug battery and blow all clean, reseat all cards and plugs and boot up and set bios
[10:34] <Kilos> how can 3 usb ports go dead
[10:35] <mazal> I dunno , but they are
[10:35] <Kilos> something in bios not seeing them'
[10:35] <mazal> They used to work , but not anymore , don't even pick up a mouse
[10:36] <Kilos> unplug batery
[10:36] <Kilos> t
[10:36] <mazal> Oh and the audio went crazy as well
[10:36] <Kilos> clean all then try again
[10:36] <Kilos> lol
[10:36] <Kilos> you got a bbug in it
[10:36] <mazal> For some reason the board started picking up every port as the mic port
[10:36] <Kilos> oh ya you have win on it
[10:36] <Kilos> no wonder
[10:37] <mazal> I actually had to disable all audio port and force all as speaker out to get audio back
[10:37] <mazal> Now everything on it is speaker out lol
[10:37] <Kilos> ai!
[10:38] <Kilos> start with bios cleanup
[10:38] <mazal> So we'll see come May if OS is to blame , but I seriously doubt it
[10:38] <Kilos> battery out
[10:38] <Kilos> dont forget you get virii in bios as well
[10:39] <mazal> My money is on hardware broken sponsored by Eskom
[10:40] <mazal> But I will try that when time comes ( the unplugging and resetting )
[10:41] <mazal> The SSD part , it's okish , but nowhere near so much faster to warrant the price
[10:41] <mazal> But is ok , now I finally have one
[10:41] <Kilos> wow it should be much faster
[10:42] <mazal> Nah it's highly overrated imo. Yes it boots and starts up much faster. But the actual working is not much quicker. Alot is CPU and RAM and network dependant
[10:43] <mazal> The only big difference I see is in boot and startup. The rest is not much different
[10:52] <who_da_fly> inetpro: did you see our video?
[10:52] <mazal> who_da_fly: I watched it
[10:53] <who_da_fly> mazal: what you think?
[10:53] <mazal> You build those ?
[10:53] <who_da_fly> ya
[10:53] <mazal> Nice , some smart people around :)
[11:56] <pieter2627> mazal: you can also test if it is the hardware using a live usb
[12:07] <mazal> Indeed , never thought about that thanx
[12:09] <pieter2627> np
[12:35] <mazal> Bye all
[14:56] <Vlekkie> Hey, hows everybody?
[15:04] <Kilos> hi vle
[15:05] <Kilos> ai!
[15:17] <inetpro> Kilos: did you get rain last night?
[15:17] <inetpro> who_da_fly: nice video!
[15:20] <Kilos> 1/2 mm inetpro
[15:20] <Kilos> where this video
[15:20] <Kilos> and what size
[15:20] <inetpro> ai!
[15:20] <inetpro> at least we got double that
[15:20] <Kilos> drizzling here now
[15:20] <Kilos> haha
[15:21] <inetpro> Kilos: https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=1RzlAK3VVjM
[15:21] <Kilos> is it not a 1g download?
[15:22] <Kilos> if small ill download it
[15:23] <Kilos> aw it doesnt download
[16:17] <inetpro> Kilos: I reached home with just a slight drizzle along the way... wind starting to get stronger now
[16:17] <Kilos> lucky hey
[16:18] <inetpro> apparently heavy rain falling in parts of #Johannesburg
[16:26] <superfly> inetpro: thanks. Google did all the work, we just sat there looking pretty
[16:27] <inetpro> superfly: cool, was this all part of the reason for your trip?
[16:32] <superfly> Nope, that was done ages ago
[16:35] <inetpro> ah
[17:34] <Kilos> weather liar says we must expect heaven rain inetpro
[17:35] <Kilos> tonight and all day tomorrow
[17:35] <inetpro> weather liar? haha
[17:36] <Kilos> Maaz forecast pretoria
[17:36] <Maaz> Kilos: Wednesday: Thunderstorm. High: 27° C., Wednesday Night: Thunderstorm. Low: 14° C., Thursday: Thunderstorm. High: 22° C., Thursday Night: Thunderstorm. Low: 14° C., Friday: Chance of a Thunderstorm. High: 27° C., Friday Night: Thunderstorm. Low: 16° C., Saturday: Thunderstorm. High: 26° C., Saturday Night: Clear. Low: 12° C., Sunday: Clear. High: 26°
[17:36] <Maaz> C., Sunday Night: Clear. Low: 12° C., Monday: Clear. High: 24° C., Monday Night: Clear…
[17:36] <inetpro> hmm... latest @tWeatherSA Alert: The SA Weather Service has issued a watch for severe T-storms in GP on Thursday. Large #HAIL, damaging winds & heavy rain possible
[17:36] <Kilos> eish aterday night is winter again
[17:38] <inetpro> this afternoon they said 1pm-11pm on Wednesday
[17:43] <Kilos> hi ambo Webtricity
[17:56] <Kilos> hmm...
[17:57] <Kilos> i hear thunder in the distance
[18:06] <gremble> Evening
[18:06] <inetpro> Kilos: let it come closer before you get excited otherwise it might run away again
[18:06] <inetpro> hello gremble
[18:07] <Kilos> lol
[18:07] <Kilos> hi gremble
[18:07] <gremble> How are you two doing
[18:07] <inetpro> gremble: very good thanks, at least we've had some waters from the skies in the past few days
[18:08] <Kilos> well ty and you
[18:08] <gremble> inetpro: There has been some damage here. One of the car dealerships in van der hoff weg had their roof collapse and a house in capital park had a wall collapse
[18:09] <gremble> That's what I've seen so far
[18:09] <gremble> apparently in mountain view (south of pretoria north) there is even more damage
[18:09] <gremble> I'm doing well kilos. Thanks.
[18:12] <inetpro> eish! I was wondering as I was driving to work this morning about all those dealerships with insufficient roof coverage
[18:13] <Kilos> yeah many places got damaged
[18:14] <gremble> They still had three cars stuck under the roof that we could see
[18:14] <gremble> :P
[18:14] <gremble> Must suck to get to work and see that
[18:17] <Kilos> sjoe
[18:17] <Kilos> and the freestate got 23 days water left they said on the news just now
[18:18] <gremble> Day 24 is going to be really awkward
[18:18] <Kilos> theyg be happy with hail damage, they get some work to do while waiting for the ice to melt
[18:19] <Kilos> weather liar says they getting heavy rain tonight and tomorrow
[19:31] <Kilos> night all. sleep tight
[19:51] <Cryterion> Evening
[19:52] <inetpro> wb Cryterion
[19:52] <gremble> Hey Cryterion
[19:52] <Cryterion> tks, been busy out on site lately
[21:30] <kulelu88> gremble: yo
[21:32] <gremble> Hey kulelu88
[21:33] <kulelu88> howzit
[21:33] <gremble> Well thanks and with yuorself?
[21:40] <kulelu88> i'm goo
[21:40] <kulelu88> good
[21:41] <gremble> Good :P
[21:41] <gremble> Goddamned internet is so slow, I can't even open up pages
[21:41] <gremble> -_-
[21:45] <kulelu88> africa
[21:45] <kulelu88> ...
[21:51] <gremble> pretty much.
[21:51] <gremble> haha
[21:56] <kulelu88> my speeds are good now
[21:59] <gremble> You have a new ISP or things just generally improved?
[22:01] <kulelu88> I'm not in S.Africa anymore
[22:02] <gremble> Oh? Where'd you bounce to?
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"superfly",
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2015-11-18-#kubuntu-devel
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[02:39] <valorie> \o/ webbies: https://www.google.com/webmasters/tools/mobile-friendly/?url=kubuntu.org
[13:10] <BluesKaj> Howdy all
[13:28] <clivejo> hi BluesKaj
[13:31] <clivejo> should kdeconnect-plasma not be linked to an upstream project in LP - https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kdeconnect-plasma
[13:37] <clivejo> and as its part of the Kubuntu default install, should Kubuntu devs not be publishing it?
[13:37] <clivejo> Maintainer: Debian Qt/KDE Maintainers
[13:48] <BluesKaj> Hi clivejo
[14:04] <yofel> clivejo: we've given up on changing that as most of us are members of the debian team anyway and we keep the VCS over there
[14:05] <yofel> clivejo: as for the upstream project: I guess nobody did the linking yet
[14:06] <clivejo> yofel: what is the upstream project for it?
[14:07] <clivejo> is it a LP project or the KDE project page (https://community.kde.org/KDEConnect)
[14:08] <yofel> I think you need a LP project for that. Maybe ask in #launchpad or #ubuntu-bugs
[14:08] <clivejo> would it not be part of the Kubuntu project in general?
[14:09] <yofel> there is no kubuntu project on LP. And I believe all our other links have seperate projects
[14:10] <clivejo> confusing
[14:10] <clivejo> I cant make head nor tail of LP
[14:11] <yofel> can't really help you as we've never cared about the upstream linking in the last ~4 years
[20:45] <clivejo> Albert Vaca just released a fixed tarball for kdeconnect-plasma named kdeconnect-kde-0.9f how does that transalte in debian packaging?
[20:46] <clivejo> The fix includes translations apparently
[21:28] <yofel> clivejo: 0.9f is a valid version
[21:28] <clivejo> but how did it jump from 0.9 to 0.9?
[21:29] <clivejo> surely 0.9.1 would be more senseable?
[21:30] <yofel> you'll have to ask upstream... Maybe they wanted to show that no code changed? We also append characters when we need to re-upload changed tarballs for kde packages
[21:32] <soee> Plasma 5.5 beta tomorrow :)
[21:51] <clivejo> yofel: the watch file can deal with letters in the version?
[21:52] <yofel> not necessarily, depends on the pattern
[21:57] <clivejo> stupid thing : uscan warning: In debian/watch no matching hrefs for version 0.9f in watch line
[22:10] * clivejo gives up and goes to bed
[23:15] <mparillo> I grabbed https://trello.com/c/xX97OnJO/65-improve-the-kubuntu-wikipedia-page and it looks like the Wikipedia police accepted my minor edit. I am wondering if the next area for edits would be around Blue Systems. Do they directly sponsor anything soley for Kubuntu, or now is all their work upstream (KDE and Debian) and downstream (NetRunner LTS) from Kubuntu?
[23:18] <valorie> not sure about netrunner, but I would characterize BS support as indirect
[23:19] <valorie> I very much hope riddell, sitter and shadeslayer will continue to contribute, but we don't have any control of that
[23:19] <valorie> I'd love to see BS hire Scarlett though, for both Kubuntu and KDE
[23:20] <valorie> double win for us
[23:20] <wxl> YES DO IT DO IT VALORIE
[23:20] <wxl> :)
[23:20] <valorie> :-)
[23:20] <valorie> If I could afford it, I totally would!
[23:21] <wxl> i know
[23:21] <sgclark> so would I! oh wait...
[23:21] <wxl> man if only we could afford it, we'd have both great teams AND they'd get paid well :)
[23:21] <wxl> (we already have great teams)
[23:21] <valorie> how are you, walter?
[23:22] <wxl> great thanks val. and you?
[23:22] <valorie> pretty good
[23:22] <valorie> just got done raking leaves
[23:22] <wxl> oh yeah fall :/
[23:22] <wxl> how's the weather up there in rainy coldville?
[23:22] <sgclark> wxl: I have your shirt still wrapped in plastic lol. want me to mail it? or wait till scale not so far off?
[23:22] <valorie> our windstorm last night blew me right offline
[23:23] <sgclark> we had some lovely rain too!
[23:23] <sgclark> and wind
[23:23] <wxl> sgclark: yeah you can just wait. UNLESS you happen to have our ubuntu banner, in which case i'll pay you to mail both
[23:23] <valorie> we had buckets of rain, yeah
[23:23] <sgclark> I dont :(
[23:23] <wxl> valorie: wow that brings back the memories of the modem days, huh? :)
[23:23] <sgclark> how did south fair for rain?
[23:23] <valorie> actually, when I had a POTS modem, it didn't go offline
[23:23] <wxl> we've had mostly typical eugene rain. a never-ending hard drizzle
[23:24] <valorie> copper doesn't go down very often
[23:24] <sgclark> ahh, we got the buckets, though nothing like Seattle I expect
[23:24] <wxl> valorie: maybe you were blessed with good phone lines. ours were crap. so much static and crap on the line it would cause all sorts of problems
[23:24] <wxl> (this was when i was still in cleveland, and on the outskirts to boot)
[23:24] <sgclark> my internet has been crap :(
[23:24] <valorie> we're a bit over a mile from the switching station
[23:24] <wxl> sgclark: let me guess— comcast?
[23:24] <sgclark> yeah
[23:24] <sgclark> hate them
[23:24] <wxl> nuff sed
[23:25] <valorie> too far for DSL, so now we have cable
[23:25] <wxl> i used to defend them all the time
[23:25] <sgclark> nothing else in my neighborhood though
[23:25] <wxl> because they always treated me well
[23:25] <valorie> not sure if it was comcast, or my equipment
[23:25] <valorie> I worked offline no problem
[23:25] <wxl> but now they're entirely run by freaking morons who refuse to acknowledge any problem
[23:25] <wxl> although i'll admit our ethernet is pretty solid
[23:25] <wxl> but their routers are GARBAGE
[23:25] <valorie> that's what happens when there is no regulation, and no competition
[23:26] <valorie> monopoly-land
[23:26] <wxl> yes, i could get my own router, but then there's the whole issue about needing a modem for their phone service
[23:26] <valorie> high prices AND crappy service, why are you complaining?
[23:26] <wxl> hehehe
[23:26] <wxl> i know, i know
[23:26] <wxl> you can't get google fiber yet, sgclark ?
[23:26] <valorie> Murrica!
[23:27] <wxl> afaik there's ton of fiber run up and down the gorge to serve their farm in the dalles
[23:27] <wxl> valorie: please tell me you're going to scale/ubucon?
[23:27] <valorie> what's the dates again?
[23:27] <valorie> I've not made any plans
[23:27] <wxl> technically i haven't either but i'm hoping for it
[23:28] <valorie> but it wouldn't be too expensive I don't think
[23:28] <sgclark> wxl: I am not aware of fiber being available
[23:33] <wxl> sorry disappeared at work
[23:34] <wxl> valorie: ubuncon part is jan 21-22 https://www.socallinuxexpo.org/scale/14x/ubucon-held-scale-14x
[23:34] <valorie> woah
[23:34] <valorie> coming right up after the hols
[23:34] <wxl> sgclark: yeah i guess fiber isn't there yet but you can sign up https://fiber.google.com/newcities/
[23:34] <wxl> yeah i know
[23:35] <valorie> wxl: do we already have a ubuntu table space?
[23:35] <valorie> I have "a" ubuntu banner
[23:35] <valorie> printed thing we used last year as LFNW I think
[23:36] <wxl> we don't yet
[23:36] <wxl> haven't signed up
[23:36] <wxl> need to clear it with "the boss" first
[23:36] <valorie> hmmm
[23:36] <valorie> ok
[23:37] <wxl> anyways it's on my mind
[23:37] <wxl> and i'd love to see you both there
[23:37] <wxl> if not there's always lfnw
[23:38] <valorie> LFNW is a given for me
[23:38] <wxl> wonder if we could coerce the sf contingent to show up
[23:38] <valorie> to SCALE?
[23:38] <wxl> yeah
[23:38] <valorie> unknown
[23:43] <valorie> gads, it's rather expensive
[23:44] <valorie> I guess they don't have access to free facilities like LFNW does
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[00:00] <jaqent> KurtKraut: muito obrigado por comentar o byobu. Não conhecia ele ainda
[00:00] <MerliM> só nao mudo pq nao curto systemd
[00:00] <MerliM> acho uma grande bosta gambiarrada
[00:00] <jaqent> MerliM: cruel
[00:00] <nuno_nunes> eu tenho o manjaro
[00:00] <nuno_nunes> poucos linux sao aprovados pela FSF
[00:00] <nuno_nunes> cruel pk jaqent
[00:01] <jaqent> chamar o systemd de bosta gambiarrada
[00:02] <jaqent> não que eu discordi dessa afirmação, só adisse que é cruel
[00:03] <MerliM> KurtKraut, cara tnks tb nao conhecia
[00:03] <MerliM> jaqent, ja ouviu falar no projeto GNU/VoidLinux
[00:03] <MerliM> linda distro
[00:04] <jaqent> MerliM: ainda não. Vou dar uma olhada
[00:05] <nuno_nunes> ja viste algum debian a nao usar kernel do linux
[00:05] <nuno_nunes> :D
[00:05] <MerliM> KurtKraut,byobu é um Screen tunado :D
[00:05] <MerliM> jaqent, pois arriscado se apaixonar
[00:06] <MerliM> usava Archlinux e tentei sair do systemd nativo do arch e por o init novamente e deixa-lo n-psystemd
[00:06] <MerliM> no-systemd
[00:07] <nuno_nunes> MerliM, e
[00:07] <MerliM> só que além do trabalhoo de estivador de quebra na existe suporte nativo a atualizacoes pra ele que poderiam quebrar o sistema
[00:07] <KurtKraut> MerliM, yeap.
[00:07] <jaqent> MerliM: Eu gosto do Arch, o systemd é provávelmente minha única reclamação. Tb é praticamente a única coisa que eles "te forçam" a usar
[00:07] <KurtKraut> MerliM, E com os atalhos de teclado, dá para fazer divisão de janelas horizontais, verticais. É excelente
[00:08] <asdf111> nuno_nunes, debiam usa tambem hurd
[00:08] <KurtKraut> MerliM, Para servidores também, pois ele mantém a sessão aberta
[00:08] <MerliM> em um pesquisa descobrir um cara desenvolvedor apaixonado pelo FreeBSD porem que discordou de algumas politicas abordadas e portou o ports e algumas ideias para um distro linux independente
[00:08] <MerliM> assim nasceu o Voidlinux
[00:08] <MerliM> rolling release
[00:08] <nuno_nunes> o hurd é um kernel nunca teve sucesso
[00:08] <nuno_nunes> asdf111, usa kernel bsd
[00:08] <nuno_nunes> :D
[00:09] <MerliM> que me atende super TOP apaixonei formatei o notebook dell e o acer netbook e botei o em ambos
[00:09] <nuno_nunes> a instalar o palemoon
[00:09] <MerliM> usando ruinit vc sente o sistema bemmmmmmmmmm leve
[00:09] <MerliM> boot veloz
[00:09] <MerliM> nuno_nunes, ja uso palemoon para acesso a graficos
[00:09] <nuno_nunes> eu nunca fui fa do bsd
[00:09] <MerliM> fora isso uso o links2
[00:09] <MerliM> nuno_nunes, existe o debian-hurd
[00:10] <nuno_nunes> o palemoon é um browser
[00:10] <MerliM> creio que nem seja questao de sucesso foi deixado de lado
[00:10] <MerliM> nuno_nunes, sim browser web
[00:10] <MerliM> uso ele nesse momento meu browser principal
[00:10] <nuno_nunes> MerliM, o hurd é um kernel que até sair demorou 20 anos
[00:11] <asdf111> nuno_nunes, já está usavel em maquinas virtuais
[00:11] <MerliM> KurtKraut, obg mesmo pela dica do byobu mano
[00:11] <nuno_nunes> mas o dia a dia não é recomendavel
[00:11] <MerliM> tnkss sempre é bom vermos softs novos e de qualidade
[00:11] <nuno_nunes> for falta de componentes
[00:11] <nuno_nunes> :D
[00:12] <KurtKraut> MerliM, Recomendo nos servidores byobu e mosh
[00:12] <MerliM> nuno_nunes, sim mano porque o Richard se dedicou a criar as aplicacoes GNU e nao se preocupou com o kernel do sistem
[00:12] <lynxer10x> agora sim galera tudo funcionando no meu debia inclusive a placa de video
[00:12] <MerliM> sistema e quando pensou em si preocupar surgiu o linux entao uniu o util ao agradavel
[00:12] <lynxer10x> o/
[00:12] <MerliM> e ta ai ate hoje o casoriooo
[00:13] <MerliM> mosh
[00:13] <MerliM> legall
[00:13] <MerliM> lynxer10x, lol
[00:14] <nuno_nunes> MerliM, se nao fosse o filandes o linux ainda era desconhecido
[00:14] <nuno_nunes> :D
[00:15] <MerliM> nuno_nunes, nao existiria digamos assim porem sem o GNU ele seria so um Kernel
[00:15] <MerliM> para sistema embutidos como vemos hoje colocando linux em tudo kkk
[00:15] <lynxer10x> galera uma pergunta idiota, mas cmo manda mensagem direcionada a alguem aqui no canal?
[00:15] <lynxer10x> ok sou burro blza aceito mas me ensinem ae :p
[00:15] <MerliM> Creio que é o casamento que fez a diferença
[00:15] <nuno_nunes> lol
[00:15] <nuno_nunes> metes o nome da pessoa lol
[00:15] <nuno_nunes> xD
[00:16] <MerliM> nuno_nunes, se nao fosse o filandes ter a brilhante ideia de pedir AJUDA isso foi a grande sacada
[00:16] <lynxer10x> hmm mas tem que escrever o nome da pessoa?
[00:16] <MerliM> KurtKraut, mosh usa perl???
[00:16] <lynxer10x> MerliM, teste
[00:16] <lynxer10x> ahnnn saquei
[00:17] <lynxer10x> uhauhuhauhauhauhuhauhauhauhuhauhau
[00:17] <MerliM> lynxer10x, pq eu sou a cobaia ahuahaua
[00:17] <lynxer10x> huauhahuauhauh
[00:18] <lynxer10x> mestredosmagos cumpadi
[00:18] <nuno_nunes> eu estou deste programa de irc :D
[00:19] <hggdh> lynxer10x: se for mensagem privada, /msg <nick> blah blah
[00:19] <hggdh> lynxer10x: normalmente os clientes IRC aceitam completar nick com tab
[00:21] <MerliM> KurtKraut, to lendo sobre o mosh que interesssante um shell interativo né como um intepretador tipo python
[00:21] <MerliM> massa
[00:21] <lynxer10x> ahnn valeu hggdh
[00:21] <lynxer10x> e isso me dei conta mas foi pela mania do terminal mesmo confesso que sem querer que descobri agor
[00:23] <nuno_nunes> HexChat: 2.10.1 ** OS: Linux 3.16.0-4-amd64 x86_64 ** Distro: Debian 8.2 ** CPU: 2 x AMD E-450 APU with Radeon(tm) HD Graphics (AuthenticAMD) @ 825MHz ** RAM: Physical: 3,5GiB, 75,2% free ** Disk: Total: 921,1GiB, 76,7% free ** VGA: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD/ATI] Wrestler [Radeon HD 6320] ** Sound: HDA-Intel - HD-Audio Generic1: HDA-Intel - HD-Audio Generic ** Ethernet: Qualcomm Atheros AR8161 Gigabit
[00:23] <nuno_nunes> Ethernet ** Uptime: 26m 9s **
[00:24] <nuno_nunes> este programa de irc da para fazer isso
[00:24] <nuno_nunes> :d
[00:24] <MerliM> KurtKraut, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NawuGmcvKus
[00:29] <asdf111> 3 a 0 pro uruguai
[00:30] <nuno_nunes> eu vou sair
[00:30] <nuno_nunes> fiquem bem
[00:31] <astroo-> ciao tu tambem
[00:31] <nuno_nunes> até amanha
[00:31] <asdf111> falou mano
[00:31] <lynxer10x> valeu boa noite
[00:48] <jaqent> MerliM: pq vc fez isso comigo? Agora vou ter que formatar minha máquina
[00:49] <lynxer10x> huauhauhauhuha
[00:55] <MerliM> jaqent, pq manoooo??ww
[00:55] <jaqent> MerliM: não acho que consigo viver mais um dia sem testar o VoidLinux :P
[00:55] <MerliM> jaqent, top mano nao ira se arrepender te garanto
[00:56] <MerliM> ---> #voidlinux o canal super prestativo e o povo é super gente boa
[00:56] <MerliM> oopaa perdaooo #xbps
[00:56] <MerliM> o gerenciador de pacote deles
[00:57] <jaqent> MerliM: já to lá. Esotu só dando uma conferida nos pacotes que tem para alguns softwares que eu uso. (nesse eu não estava, muito obrigado)
[00:58] <MerliM> jaqent, nada o que nao tiver nos repositorios ta via ports xbps-source, porem eu nunca precisei usa-lo
[00:58] <MerliM> ele usa uma base em git
[00:58] <MerliM> jaqent, ate agora nada me faltou :D
[00:58] <MerliM> xbps-src :D
[00:59] <MerliM> jaqent, ele é apaixonante eu uso via init 3 quando quero usar o wm startx
[00:59] <MerliM> boot super rapido
[00:59] <MerliM> iniciar um servico so criar um link do servico pro diretorio /var/service
[01:00] <MerliM> rm /var/service/NOMEDOSERVICO pronto o servico desativa
[01:00] <MerliM> e nao inicia mais com o sistema
[01:00] <MerliM> desativei do ttyS4-S6
[01:00] <MerliM> uso so ate o 3
[01:01] <MerliM> quando da um erro q nuncaaaa da no X vou pro 2 e faco o que quero kkkk
[01:01] <jaqent> MerliM: e parece bem bleed-edge
[01:01] <MerliM> o Sistema é uma maravilha só que como nao é muito divulgado por aqui quase ninguem conhece
[01:02] <MerliM> yeap
[01:04] <MerliM> jaqent, por ter riscos de uso????
[01:04] <MerliM> é isso
[01:04] <jaqent> MerliM: não no sentido de ser tão atualizado quanto o Arch por exemplo
[01:05] <MerliM> hummm ai que tá eu usava o kernel 4.x no netbook porem creio que algo no codigo dele travava meu video fui no canal e perguntei como usar o kernel 3.x como default e desativar os updates e instalacoes do 4.x
[01:06] <MerliM> so da um xpbs-pkg hold pronto
[01:06] <MerliM> mesmo tendo update de X software ele nao faz
[01:06] <MerliM> ^^
[01:06] <MerliM> dai so removi os 4.x do sistema e pronto lindao so com o kernel LTS
[01:06] <jaqent> Perfeito isso
[01:07] <MerliM> existe um script que tambem limpa o sistema de kernels que vc nao quer
[01:07] <MerliM> cara o sistema É LINDO
[01:07] <MerliM> suporte nativo para arm
[01:07] <MerliM> rasp
[01:07] <MerliM> etc da uma saca no site
[01:08] <MerliM> instalei a versao com lxdm e lxde queria usar logo, tem a versao pura so a base
[01:08] <MerliM> tava sem saco
[01:08] <MerliM> dai removi tudo e pus o mate depois cansei coloquei o awesome
[01:08] <MerliM> so que o login era grafico com usuario e senha
[01:09] <MerliM> dei um rm /var/service/lxdm
[01:09] <MerliM> pronto boot no shell mesmo kkkkk
[01:09] <MerliM> e o lxdm continua la quiser voltar
[01:10] <MerliM> ln -s /etc/sv/lxdm /var/service/lxdm pronto
[01:10] <MerliM> prox boot ativado por padrao ahuahuaa
[01:10] <MerliM> quer coisa mais simples que isso melhor que um upstart systemd
[01:10] <MerliM> entre outro
[01:10] <MerliM> outros
[01:10] <MerliM> e scripts bem definidos
[01:11] <jaqent> BEM melhor
[01:11] <MerliM> ele prima pela qualidade do sistema tecnicamente algo que amo no Archlinux
[01:11] <asdf111> lxdm é muito bom
[01:11] <asdf111> muito simples
[01:11] <MerliM> mesmo leigo vc entende o que o sistema faz
[01:13] <jaqent> MerliM: como eu disse minha única reclamação de verdade com o Arch é o systemd... e a mania esporádica de fazer coisas que ninguém espera como os symlink dos */bin :P
[01:14] <lynxer10x> galera como eu tiro o temporizador do grub?
[01:15] <MerliM> asdf111, prefiro o simpledm
[01:15] <MerliM> slim
[01:15] <MerliM> :D
[01:15] <lynxer10x> grub_timeout=-1 ??
[01:15] <MerliM> lindo personalizavel e leve extremamente leve
[01:15] <asdf111> MerliM, é mais simples que o lxdm ?
[01:15] <MerliM> jaqent, pois é nunca entendi esse lance dos symlink tb
[01:16] <MerliM> jaqent, entao amigo bem vindo ao GNU/VoidLinux vc vai se viciar
[01:16] <MerliM> lynxer10x, edita e coloca zero vai da boot direto
[01:16] <MerliM> ruim se der um kernel panic por exemplo
[01:17] <lynxer10x> GRUB_DEFAULT=0
[01:17] <lynxer10x> GRUB_TIMEOUT=5
[01:17] <lynxer10x> GRUB_DISTRIBUTOR=`lsb_release -i -s 2> /dev/null || echo Debian`
[01:17] <lynxer10x> GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT="quiet"
[01:17] <lynxer10x> GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX=""
[01:17] <MerliM> eu sempre deixo e reduzo o time so isso tipo é 10 coloco 3
[01:17] <lynxer10x> operador foi mal o tanto de linha
[01:17] <MerliM> timeout=0
[01:17] <jaqent> lynxer10x: acontece XD
[01:17] <MerliM> no caso
[01:17] <MerliM> asdf111, sim é mais simples
[01:17] <lynxer10x> esta zerto
[01:17] <MerliM> tanto q simpleDM
[01:18] <MerliM> GRUB_TIMEOUT=5
[01:18] <MerliM> mano
[01:18] <MerliM> esse q poe zero
[01:18] <MerliM> ne nao
[01:18] <lynxer10x> ahh que burro eu da zero pra mim
[01:18] <lynxer10x> huauhauha
[01:18] <lynxer10x> e de boa modificar isso?
[01:19] <lynxer10x> nao da merda ? pergunta de nobao
[01:19] <jaqent> lynxer10x: -1 funciona diferente. Acabei de ver aqui.
[01:19] <lynxer10x> funciona como?
[01:20] <jaqent> -1 desabilita o timer, no sentido de que fica sem timer esperando o usuário fazer alguma coisa :)
[01:20] <lynxer10x> hmm entao nao e isso que eu quero
[01:20] <jaqent> Só mudar o GRUB_TIMEOUT de 5 pra 0 não é pra dar problema algum
[01:21] <lynxer10x> vou tentar
[01:21] <jaqent> Se vc quer ser cauteloso troca de 5 pra 4 e depois pra 3 e depois pra 2 e depois pra 1.... brincadeira
[01:21] <jaqent> XD
[01:21] <lynxer10x> huahuauhauhahuauha
[01:22] <lynxer10x> isso que enfraquece a amizade
[01:22] <lynxer10x> huaahu
[01:22] <lynxer10x> funcionou
[01:23] * jaqent vai chorar no cantinho do canal com a amizade enfraquecida T_T
[01:23] <jaqent> XD
[01:23] <lynxer10x> huauhauhauhuhauh
[01:23] <jaqent> O importante é que funcionou :)
[01:24] <lynxer10x> funcionou sim valeu
[01:24] <MerliM> MerliM, auaauauhahuah
[01:24] <jaqent> falando sozinho :O
[01:24] <MerliM> fortaleceuu novamente kkk
[01:24] <MerliM> funcionou
[01:25] <MerliM> sim eu falo comigo mesmo as vezes
[01:25] <MerliM> gosto de saber como estou me sentindo ahauhauhau
[01:25] <lynxer10x> totalmente fortalecida
[01:25] <lynxer10x> uhauhauhauhuha
[01:25] <jaqent> MerliM: kkkkkkkkkkkkk
[01:25] <lynxer10x> MerliM, uhauhauhuahha
[01:27] <MerliM> KurtKraut, o byobu usa o tmux né???
[01:28] <lynxer10x> valeu galera vou nessa muito obrigado a todos pela forca uma boa noite e durmam bem
[01:28] <lynxer10x> valeuz
[01:28] <jaqent> lynxer10x: Falou o/
[01:29] <MerliM> hggdh, mano tá tudo bem to te achando caladaoo hoje
[01:29] <MerliM> *---*
[01:29] <MerliM> nhr
[01:30] <MerliM> 60 minutos de tutorial tmux+vim
[01:30] <MerliM> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5r6yzFEXajQ
[01:31] <asdf111> MerliM, usa vim ?
[01:31] <MerliM> sim
[01:31] <asdf111> kkkkkkkkk
[01:31] <asdf111> emacs na cabeça mano
[01:31] <MerliM> uso sim iniciei no emacs mais muita keybind pra pouco cerebro
[01:31] <MerliM> curto ambos
[01:31] <MerliM> emacs projetos demorados e vim edicoes rapidas
[01:32] <MerliM> sem flame
[01:32] <MerliM> ahauhau
[01:32] <asdf111> kkkkkkkkkkk
[01:32] <jaqent> Não precisa de flame pra isso
[01:32] <asdf111> sem flames mas o emacs é muito melhor
[01:32] <jaqent> todo mundo sabe que vim é melhor
[01:32] <jaqent> :P
[01:32] <MerliM> jaqent, rummm sabe de nada inocente ahuahuah
[01:32] * jaqent pega a pipoca
[01:32] <jaqent> BURN!!!
[01:32] <asdf111> jaqent, sabe de nada inocente 2
[01:32] <jaqent> hahaha
[01:33] <hggdh> MerliM: tudo bem, apenas ocupado
[01:33] <MerliM> hggdh, que bom mano entao volte a seus afazeres queria somente saber se esta tudo UP com o sr.
[01:34] <MerliM> xonei pelo byobu estudando aqui
[01:34] <asdf111> emacs é um supercomputador completo em um netbook
[01:35] <MerliM> asdf111, isso de fato
[01:35] <asdf111> kkkkkkk
[01:35] <MerliM> diria que um workstation sem necessidade de um X
[01:35] <MerliM> coisas nele que no vim precisa de muita configuracao
[01:36] <asdf111> verdade
[01:36] <jaqent> ele é quase um SO sozinho
[01:36] <MerliM> já que estamos falando sobre o que vcs acham que acontece com o mundo NIX daqui a 5 ou 10 anos
[01:36] <asdf111> no emacs demora o aprendizado mas quando se aprende não larga mais
[01:36] <MerliM> quais suas apostas
[01:37] <jaqent> MerliM: em qual sentido?
[01:37] <asdf111> não entendi tambem
[01:37] <MerliM> exemplo o stallman é altamente contra owcloud
[01:37] <MerliM> own*
[01:38] <asdf111> sou sempre a favor de stallman mano
[01:38] <jaqent> MerliM: um monte de gente velha é contra cloud no geral.
[01:38] <MerliM> de forma geral levando em consideracao a terrivel afinidade com a M$ e software livre por exemplo
[01:38] <MerliM> na aposta dela no R
[01:38] <MerliM> na linguagem R
[01:38] <MerliM> asdf111, eu tb
[01:38] <MerliM> e do steve wozniak
[01:38] <MerliM> ou woz
[01:39] <asdf111> o woz é um cara genial
[01:39] <MerliM> kkkk enquanto todos veneraval steve jobs pra mim o cara eh e sempre foi WOZ
[01:39] <asdf111> mas estou com o stallman
[01:39] <MerliM> tb sou Stallman
[01:39] <MerliM> indo e voltando
[01:39] <MerliM> até fui criticado aqui por alguem quando comentei isso
[01:39] <asdf111> isso dá muito flame mesmo
[01:40] <MerliM> kkk
[01:40] <asdf111> kkkkkk
[01:40] <jaqent> Eu não tenho nada contra o Stallman, e acho ele extremamente razoável em alguns pontos.
[01:40] <MerliM> off 3 x 0 Brasil até quem fim
[01:41] <asdf111> comprei ate recentemente o thinkpad t60 só para por o libreboot e usar o trisquel mano
[01:41] <MerliM> eu sou super fã do Linus, porem acho q as vezes ele tem umas paradas nada haver kkk
[01:41] <jaqent> Na questão da Cloud um monte do pessoal mais antigo da área de TI que conheço é meio contra a cloud. As vezes eu acho que é trauma da época dos dumb terminal
[01:41] <jaqent> MerliM: vc é muito gentil dizendo 'as vezes' kkkkkkkkkk
[01:41] <MerliM> asdf111, eu sei meu sonho esse teu tpad
[01:41] <MerliM> kkkkkkkkkk
[01:42] <MerliM> qual config dele e pagou qnt mano
[01:42] <MerliM> achei uns no ml tb
[01:42] <MerliM> pra comprar
[01:42] <MerliM> quero comparar
[01:42] <asdf111> jaqent, sempre que posso eu evito o cloud
[01:42] <asdf111> MerliM, tem no mercado livre mano
[01:42] <asdf111> tudo funcionado
[01:42] <MerliM> comprou la
[01:43] <jaqent> asdf111: ainda é possível viver sem usar cloud ativamente, pacivamente só se limitarmos um pouco nosso uso.
[01:43] <asdf111> MerliM, paguei 400 dilma em um
[01:43] <asdf111> jaqent, verdade mano
[01:43] <asdf111> MerliM, usado
[01:43] <asdf111> mas tudo funcionado
[01:43] <asdf111> e já veio com 2 gb de ram
[01:44] <jaqent> e tb depende um pouco da definição de cloud, já vi empresas chamando cada absurdo de cloud que dá até medo
[01:44] <asdf111> tem um cara lá vendendo um igual mas com 1 gb de ram somente
[01:44] <asdf111> e usado
[01:45] <asdf111> MerliM, quer o linux do note no mercado livre ?
[01:45] <jaqent> o linux do note?
[01:46] <jaqent> MerliM: pra responder a sua pergunta eu acredito que a não ser que tenhamos mais uns 3 Snowden a tendência natural do mercado vai acabar sendo cloud/HA
[01:47] <MerliM> jaqent, assim como ja vi gente chamando replicacao de cluster que me doeu a espinha
[01:48] <MerliM> asdf111, nao entendi linux do note
[01:48] <asdf111> MerliM, é link mano
[01:49] <jaqent> Não acho que nos próximos 10 anos pra Desktop o software livre vai ter um crescimento muito grande ou diferente do que foi nos últimos 10.
[01:49] <asdf111> digitei errado kkkkkkkkkk
[01:50] <jaqent> Talvez se a continuarmos tendo iniciativas tipo de empreas como a Valve as coisas mudem, ou se o usuário mudar.
[01:50] <asdf111> jaqent, verdade mano
[01:51] <jaqent> MerliM: isso doi tb, mas é bem isso cloud hj em dia é jargão de marketing
[01:51] <jaqent> asdf111: é como eu penso, tipo tem um monte de pessoas que eu conheço que acham que o computador é tipo um martelo.
[01:52] <jaqent> Tu pega, bate e pronto.
[01:52] <asdf111> jaqent, kkkkkkkkk
[01:52] <jaqent> parece piada mas foi sério
[01:53] <MerliM> jaqent, usuario mudar seria uma revolucao
[01:54] <jaqent> MerliM: ao meu ver seria mais um retorno
[01:54] <jaqent> Lembram do fim dos anos 90 começo dos 2000 quando o IRC ainda era grande no Brasil e tinha redes como Brasnet/Brasirc com virtualmente um canal pra cada cidade brasileira e milhares de canais de assuntos diferentes?
[01:56] <asdf111> jaqent, ainda tinha dinossauros nesta época, não é ?
[01:56] <asdf111> e muito barulhentos
[01:56] <asdf111> kkkkkkkkkkk
[01:56] <jaqent> Eu estava na escola nessa época ainda, e tipo geral usava o IRC e tinha zero problema em usar. Tinha uma renca gigante de pessoas envolvidas com customização dos mIRC e a muitos não tinham a mínima vontade de seguir a área de TI.
[01:56] <asdf111> era epoca que pentium 1 era maquina de rico
[01:57] <jaqent> Era só como as coisas eram, era tudo super cru e pra vc usar vc tinha que fazer um esforço configurar e talz.
[01:57] <MerliM> jaqent, nostalgico aqui bombava um canal de um bairro cohatrac cheio de minas
[01:57] <MerliM> era o chat uol daqui
[01:57] <jaqent> MerliM: pois é
[01:57] <jaqent> hj em dia maior parte desse povo não usa o IRC pq é 'ccomplicado'
[01:58] <MerliM> imagine ICQ
[01:58] <MerliM> antes de tudo ICQ IRC ja tinham resume
[01:58] <MerliM> mano top demais
[01:58] <jaqent> tenho trauma de ICQ perdi minha conta de 6 digitos T_T
[01:59] <MerliM> eu tb
[01:59] <MerliM> 102328083
[01:59] <MerliM> no caso 9
[01:59] <MerliM> jaqent, tem qnt anos mano
[01:59] <MerliM> 100
[01:59] <MerliM> auauaha
[01:59] <jaqent> kkkkkkkkkk quem me dera
[02:00] <jaqent> vamos deixar 30 e pouquinho :P
[02:01] <asdf111> kkkkkkkkk
[02:01] <jaqent> MerliM: meu ponto é antigamente as pessoas não tinham preguiça de usar o computador. O movimento de ir criando automágicas em tudo e 'facilitar' tudo é uma das coisas que mais prejudicou algumas técnologias (em minha opinião)
[02:02] <asdf111> jaqent, isso começou com a apple
[02:02] <jaqent> Eu prefiro pensar que foi o Word :P
[02:03] <jaqent> e o Word é até melhor, todo mundo que teve que fazer qualquer coisa mais elaborada tipo um artigo científico ou um TCC sabe como as automágicas do Word podem ser detestáveis kkkkkkkkkkkkkk
[02:03] <asdf111> a apple queria que todo mundo tivesse maquinas top, mas que não precisava saber o que tem dentro delas
[02:05] <jaqent> asdf111: eu concordo, só que a Apple não era tão popular a ponto de causar esse tipo de shift na mentalidade dos usuários.
[02:05] <asdf111> e nem saber qual o codigo fonte do software
[02:05] <MerliM> MerliM, 32 year old
[02:06] <asdf111> eu 31 mano
[02:06] <jaqent> somos todos 30 e poucos kkkkkkkkkkk
[02:06] <MerliM> jaqent, concordo plenamente com vc, por isso vemos uma juventude zumbizada pelos tablet e cellphones
[02:06] <asdf111> kkkkkkkkk
[02:06] <MerliM> que nem sabem o que usam
[02:06] <MerliM> so interessa que tao recebendo msg via face e zap e pronto
[02:07] <asdf111> verdade
[02:07] <jaqent> pois é
[02:07] <MerliM> geracao coca-cola a melhor the best
[02:07] <MerliM> pq essa geracao das COISAS so se forem das ruins
[02:07] <MerliM> ahuahua
[02:07] <asdf111> kkkkkkkkk
[02:08] <jaqent> pois é
[02:08] <jaqent> mas é preguiça mesmo
[02:08] <asdf111> essa geraçao nova é a geração orkut
[02:08] <MerliM> vdd a grande maioria dos seres humanos sao preguicoso
[02:08] <MerliM> eu tiro por mim em relacao a algumas coisas recentemente descobrir como é bom caminhar
[02:09] <MerliM> correr
[02:09] <MerliM> em vez de usar carro pra tudo
[02:09] <asdf111> verdade mano
[02:09] <LeandroLuiz> para de mentir ai MerliM
[02:09] <MerliM> asdf111, creio que seja mais pra geracao LIKE
[02:09] <MerliM> kkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkk
[02:09] <MerliM> LeandroLuiz, me deixa com meu momento forest
[02:09] <asdf111> kkkkkkkkkkk
[02:10] <LeandroLuiz> o hggdh vai te banir
[02:10] <LeandroLuiz> pro contar mentiras
[02:10] <LeandroLuiz> *por
[02:10] <jaqent> Toda vez que alguém que conheço vem pedir ajuda com a formatação de TCC isso e aquilo eu sempre ofereço pra mostrar um jeito melhor e mais fácil pra pessoa. se ela concorda eu sento com ela e ensino ela a usar o LaTeX a maioria consegue pegar em uma tarde sem problema algum.
[02:11] <jaqent> LeandroLuiz: contar mentira da ban nesse canal?
[02:11] <LeandroLuiz> jaqent: dá
[02:11] <MerliM> hggdh, é meu brow estamos falando de TI
[02:11] <LeandroLuiz> jaqent: respirou errado já era
[02:11] <MerliM> kkkk
[02:11] <LeandroLuiz> chapa aqui é quente
[02:11] <jaqent> Melhor fazer +b *!*@*
[02:11] <MerliM> LaTeX TOP mano
[02:11] <jaqent> economiza tempo kkkkkkkkk
[02:11] <MerliM> simples assim
[02:12] <MerliM> ja volto
[02:12] <jaqent> MerliM: e não zoa sua paginação, nem seu índice como o Word gosta de fazer
[02:12] <hggdh> se é o desejo de todos, sim, sem problema
[02:13] <LeandroLuiz> calma hggdh
[02:13] <MerliM> LeandroLuiz, olha ai mano foi acordar a feraaa
[02:13] <LeandroLuiz> era brinks cara
[02:13] <LeandroLuiz> bane nois não
[02:13] <LeandroLuiz> nois é pobre
[02:13] <MerliM> jaja muda o status de operador dele
[02:13] <LeandroLuiz> mas é limpim
[02:13] <hggdh> LeandroLuiz: cuida-te.
[02:13] <LeandroLuiz> ui
[02:14] <MerliM> hggdh, bani o LeandroLuiz ele quem baguncou ahuahuah
[02:14] <LeandroLuiz> vou até dormir
[02:14] <MerliM> estamos a falar de TI
[02:14] <LeandroLuiz> bj hggdh
[02:14] <hggdh> e, agora, de volta ao tópico
[02:14] * jaqent se esconde
[02:14] <hggdh> mais algum candidato?
[02:15] <asdf111> hggdh, vai com calma mano
[02:15] <asdf111> isso espanta usuarios
[02:15] <asdf111> do linux
[02:15] <hggdh> asdf111: o canal tem regras.
[02:15] <asdf111> entendi
[02:17] <hggdh> MerliM: estás na beirada.
[02:19] <MerliM> hggdh, o que eu fiz to falando de TI
[02:19] <MerliM> estamos discutindo tecnologia e até ponderando sobre como o cenario sera visto futuramente
[02:19] <MerliM> nao entendi[
[02:19] <hggdh> novamente: se querem conversar sobre qualquer coisa, usem outro canal. Tem o #ubuntu-br-offtopic (que vive às moscas).
[02:20] <hggdh> tenho deixado o canal rolar solto, mas obviamente não está funcionando.
[02:20] <MerliM> hggdh, mesmo sobre tecnologia tem que ser no offtopic
[02:21] <hggdh> MerliM: não necessitaria. Mas... esta experiencia não me mostra estar funcionando
[02:21] <MerliM> hggdh, como assim? mano
[02:23] <hggdh> bem, carro, acredito, poderia ser tecnologia. Mas não aqui.
[02:29] <barna__> ##ubuntu-br
[04:04] <astroo-> ciao pessoal
[10:32] <lynxer10x> bom dia povo
[10:49] <MerliM> http://br-linux.org/2015/01/gpiozero-chega-a-versao-10-interface-simples-para-eletronica-com-python-no-raspberry-pi.html
[11:28] <lynxer10> bom dia pessoar
[13:12] <Legendario> /msg NickServ VERIFY REGISTER Legendario tpldtpqitpct
[13:16] <aedigital> O_o
[13:20] <lynxer10> uhauhauhauhau
[13:20] <lynxer10> e acho que ele entregou a pacoca
[13:29] <MerliM> kkkkkkk
[13:31] <lynxer10> pessoal o kernel 4.2 esta baum?
[13:31] <lynxer10> tava pensando em atualizar o meu
[13:31] <lynxer10> que ta no 3.16
[13:32] <aedigital> eu soh atualizo se for estritamente necessario
[13:32] <aedigital> ou
[13:32] <aedigital> se for para testes numa maquina que nao seja de producao
[13:35] <barna> Dia galera
[13:35] <lynxer10> eu tava lendo o changelog
[13:35] <barna> eu faço o mesmo q o aedigital
[13:36] <MerliM> nao saio do 3.xx to cedo
[13:36] <MerliM> o 4.xx buga meu vgaa
[13:36] <MerliM> q merda trava nos torrents
[13:36] <MerliM> aedigital, exatooo
[13:36] <aedigital> vixe
[13:36] <barna> aedigital, trabalhas com o q?
[13:37] <lynxer10> uauhauhauha depois de tanto ponto negativo desanimei
[13:37] <aedigital> traballho na secretaria de uma escola publica
[13:37] <aedigital> na periferia de sp
[13:37] <aedigital> lynxer10, hahahaha
[13:38] <MerliM> to falando por mim eu nao fui atras de resolver vi no meu grub conf que tinha o 3.xx e botei pra rodar e testei
[13:38] <MerliM> pronto funfou
[13:38] <MerliM> acredito eu que seja algo no gerenciamento de memoria do 4.xx
[13:38] <MerliM> com meu netbook
[13:38] <aedigital> anram
[13:39] <barna> lynxer10, faz q nem eu, deixa 5 partições com 20gb e uma grande (alem do swap é claro), bota um (ou duas distros pra produção) e as outras (de 20) pra testes, se bugar volta pra q ta ok.
[13:39] <lynxer10> cara mas pelo changelog melhorou pra caramba
[13:39] <lynxer10> perfomance, compatibilidade etc. pelo que entendi ta com problemas com a radeon mas na 4.2.6 ja resolveram
[13:40] <aedigital> esquema eh como o barna falou mesmo
[13:40] <lynxer10> na realidade nao tenho problema de dar pau na maquina e instalar tudo de novo. essa maquina e pessoal e so uso pra besteira , curiosidades mesmo o grande problema mesmo e a preguica
[13:40] <barna> ps, a partição grande pro /home
[13:41] <lynxer10> o meu ta configurado assim com a /home em outra particao
[13:42] <barna> as vezes quero brincar com a minha distro principal, tiro uma copia da partição, mudo o uuid dele e brinco, se der pau tenho a copia original.....
[13:42] <MerliM> lynxer10, rumm eu nao arrisco to feliz com o 3.xx
[13:42] <MerliM> :D
[13:42] <barna> lynxer10, tenho visto muuuuuita gente com problemas em amd + kernel 4.x
[13:43] <barna> eu tenho 2 instalações com ele aki, numa maquina full intel/nvidia, ta indo blz!
[13:43] <lynxer10> pois e eu li sobre isso e quando tava com o ubuntu dava pau pra caramba na 4.2.3 . nao cheguei a testar a 4.2.6 que disseram que corrigiram. nao sei como ta a 4.3 alguem testou?
[13:45] <barna> é sempre assim, quando se lança algo novo, demora um tico pra ficar redondo. foi a mesma coisa na mudança do kernel 2.x pro 3.x
[13:46] <lynxer10> sou meio doido com isso, gosto de sempre estar atualizado. uauauha baixei o source e chegando em casa vou tentar e ver no que da. mas vou tentar o 4.2.6
[13:49] <lynxer10> no kernel.org aparece o 4.2 como stable e o 4.3 como mainline , entendo que o 4.3 tb esta stable e colocam como mainline pq e o ultimo stable que saiu correto?
[13:51] <MerliM> lynxer10, sei la ficouu uma loucuraaaa
[13:51] <lynxer10> uhauhauha
[13:51] <lynxer10> acho que e isso
[13:54] <lynxer10> vou tentar e se der certo ou der pau aviso a voces! uaauhauhuha
[13:55] <MerliM> ok
[13:55] <MerliM> boa sorteee
[13:55] <lynxer10> valeu MerliM
[13:55] <MerliM> Deus te proteja
[13:55] <aedigital> hehehe
[13:55] <lynxer10> uhhauuhauhauh assim nao da, e tsanto terrorismo que o povo fica ate com medo e tenso
[13:56] <MerliM> kkkkkkkk
[13:56] <barna> KKKKKKKKKKKKkk
[13:56] <barna> lynxer10, num esquece de fazer um live-pen antes de colocar o kernel.
[13:57] <MerliM> e backuppp
[13:57] <lynxer10> verdade barna. bem pensado. nem tinha pensando nisso
[13:57] <MerliM> do mbr
[13:57] <MerliM> va dd
[13:57] <MerliM> via*
[13:57] <lynxer10> po MerliM o terrorismo ta enfraquecendo a amizade
[13:58] <barna> sempre, sempre q vou fazer algo do tipo faço o live primeiro! já me salvou a vida algumas vezes.
[13:58] <MerliM> vai na fé irmaooo
[13:58] <barna> lynxer10, tira uma iso do /
[13:58] <lynxer10> uhauhauhauhuhauha
[13:58] <lynxer10> ja e brother deixa cum noix
[13:59] <barna> dd if=/dev/sdXY ~/sistema.iso (trocando o XY pela letra/numero da partição)
[13:59] <lynxer10> to ligado, fiz algumas vezes valeu barna
[13:59] <barna> dd if=/dev/sdXY of=~/sistema.iso
[14:00] <barna> *corrigindo
[14:00] <lynxer10> :)
[14:00] <barna> esse é outro q salva!
[14:01] <lynxer10> yep :p
[14:02] <lynxer10> todo mundo que ta aqui efetivamente usa o ubuntu?
[14:03] <barna> yep
[14:04] <lynxer10> barna: unity?
[14:05] <barna> basicamente
[14:05] <barna> eu to usando o ubuntustudio + unity pra produção e migrando de vagar pro avix (q tem unity e xfce)
[14:06] <barna> quando sair o 16.04 devo migrar 100% pro avix.
[14:06] <lynxer10> vou te dizer que o gnome nao e de todo ruim ja ate me acostumei com ele . ele fica muito bom com mais de 1 monitor fica bem intuitivo assim
[14:07] <lynxer10> o que e avix?
[14:07] <barna> alem de achar ele confuso (mas tb achei o unity no inicio), não consegui de jeito maneira fazer a pentablet comandar o mult-desktop o q é fundamental no meu trabalho.
[14:08] <barna> avix é uma modificação do ubuntu desktop pra produção audio visual.
[14:08] <barna> Audio Visual e Imagem sobre X
[14:08] <lynxer10> ahh bala, nao sabia disso. pra vc encaxou como uma luva ne, ja que trabalha com isso
[14:09] <barna> D++++++
[14:09] <barna> só tinha visto/conhecido mods pra gravação de estudio etc.. q já ajuda bastante, os kernel lowlatecy etc.... mas nada voltado realmente pra audio visual.
[14:10] <barna> tem umas distros tipo dynabolic etc... mas tudo muuuuuuito desatualizado.
[14:11] <barna> o avix 2 roda sobre ubuntu 14.04~15.10, o avix vai ser exclusivamente pra ubuntu 16.04
[14:11] <asdf111> barna, trisquel é atual mano
[14:11] <lynxer10> barna nao e mano mano e mana olhe o respeito :p
[14:12] <lynxer10> uhauhauhauh
[14:14] <MerliM> barna, que eh avix
[14:15] <MerliM> barna, ti lendo ja
[14:15] <lynxer10> barna> avix é uma modificação do ubuntu desktop pra produção audio visual.
[14:15] <MerliM> barna, tipo um spin do fedora
[14:16] <barna> eu lembro de ter testado o trisquel no passado, num lembro por q num fiquei nela, num consegui achar se é baseada em ubuntu ou debian (ou ambas)
[14:17] <MerliM> barna, provavelmente pela politica de usar somente software quer fornecem os fontes
[14:17] <asdf111> o trisquel é baseado em ubuntu
[14:17] <asdf111> é exatamente os mesmo programas
[14:17] <asdf111> com o kernel linux-libre
[14:17] <asdf111> ja o gnewsense é baseado em debian
[14:18] <MerliM> asdf111, mesmoooss programas como assim
[14:18] <asdf111> MerliM, mesmos programas do ubuntu
[14:18] <MerliM> mano concordo com mesma base
[14:18] <asdf111> mesmo codigo fonte do app
[14:18] <MerliM> discordo mesmos programas
[14:18] <MerliM> nao utiliza o repositorios non-free
[14:19] <asdf111> não tem o non-free no trisquel
[14:19] <barna> asdf111, vc usa trisquel ai?
[14:19] <asdf111> barna, isso mesmo
[14:19] <asdf111> trisquel 6
[14:20] <MerliM> sera que existe a possibilidade de se instalar um linux ou android no playbook???
[14:20] <barna> e ai q tem falar dela?
[14:20] <asdf111> barna, trisquel é muito bom mano
[14:20] <asdf111> muito mais rápido que o ubuntu
[14:21] <MerliM> vou baixar ele e ve como se comporta com meus dispositivos wifi
[14:21] <asdf111> MerliM, wifi tem que ser atheros
[14:21] <MerliM> e ethernet o resto damos um jeito quero ve se os drivers rodam de boa sem o linux-firmware
[14:21] <asdf111> e placa de vide tem que ser intel
[14:22] <MerliM> então ta de boasss
[14:22] <MerliM> :D
[14:22] <MerliM> e como tua atheros roda
[14:22] <MerliM> qual modulo
[14:22] <barna> isso q é chato, o role do avix é q não é uma distro, é uma modificação do ubuntu desktop. vc "converte" seu ubuntu já instalado em avix.
[14:22] <MerliM> barna, instalaria o ubuntu core e dele o avix deve ficar bem to
[14:22] <MerliM> TOP
[14:23] <asdf111> o modulo é o ath9k
[14:23] <barna> ubuntu core?
[14:23] <MerliM> eu ja usei o gnewsense adorei
[14:23] <MerliM> hauhaua
[14:23] <lynxer10> esse trisquel tem a versao 7.0 ja ---> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trisquel
[14:23] <MerliM> ubuntu server como queira
[14:23] <asdf111> MerliM, gnewsense é muito estavel mano
[14:24] <MerliM> o meu eh o ath5k
[14:24] <asdf111> pena que é meio defasado
[14:24] <lynxer10> 7.0 LTS Belenos 2014-11-03[29] 2019[29] Linux-libre 3.13 GNOME 3.12 Ubuntu 14.04 LTS (Trusty Tahr)
[14:24] <MerliM> asdf111, ele usa systemd né
[14:24] <asdf111> MerliM, ainda não
[14:24] <MerliM> asdf111, usa o que???
[14:24] <asdf111> mas a proxima versão vai usar
[14:24] <MerliM> init
[14:24] <asdf111> init
[14:25] <MerliM> asdf111, vixi vai deixar de prestar credooo
[14:25] <MerliM> argh systemd
[14:25] <barna> ahhhhhh, tendi
[14:25] <asdf111> ele é baseado em ubuntu, se o ubuntu mudar ele também muda
[14:25] <aedigital> aproveitando este papo de systemd
[14:26] <asdf111> aedigital, até hoje nunca usei mano
[14:26] <aedigital> tem uns itens que aparecem no comando
[14:26] <aedigital> systemctrl
[14:26] <aedigital> systemctl
[14:26] <barna> eu vou alem, baixo o ubuntu mini (netinstal 40mb a iso), instalo, depois instalo só q minimo q vou usar com --no-install-recommends depois rodo o script do avix, fica super leve e rapido.
[14:28] <MerliM> asdf111, ubuntu nao ja mudou a tempos
[14:28] <MerliM> digo ficou entre systemd e upstart
[14:28] <asdf111> MerliM, nem sabia disso mano
[14:28] <MerliM> creio que o ubuntu adotou o upstart nao foi
[14:28] <aedigital> tais como systemd-tmpfiles-clean.timer
[14:28] <aedigital> da pra desabilitar?
[14:29] <MerliM> aedigital, systemctl status o nomedoserviço
[14:29] <MerliM> se ele aparecer como UP deve da pra parar e desativar sim
[14:29] <info_> Toda distribuição linux mint que instalo da bug e trava a máquina com tela branca quando clico no firefox, já troquei até a máquina e não resolve, alguém tem uma sugestão ?
[14:29] <asdf111> MerliM, a 15.04 vem com systemd ?
[14:29] <MerliM> primeiro para, pra sentir o impacto no sistema
[14:29] <MerliM> nao sei mano
[14:29] <MerliM> hggdh, o ubuntu esta a usar upstart ou systemd
[14:30] <MerliM> ???? e a qnt tempo digo desde que versao??? sabes
[14:30] <barna> asdf111, MerliM aedigital jaqent, vamos pro ##ubuntu-br-offtopic? gente precisando de suporte no canal!
[14:30] <barna> info_,
[14:30] <barna> qual versão?
[14:30] <MerliM> info_, tela branca parece problema de drive de video
[14:30] <MerliM> qual sua vga
[14:30] <info_> já testei todas as versões do 17.2
[14:31] <MerliM> barna, no offtopic????
[14:31] <MerliM> precisando de ajuda
[14:31] <MerliM> ?
[14:31] <info_> vga onboard
[14:31] <MerliM> intel?
[14:31] <lynxer10> vi a pagina do avix realmente uma ferramente interessante e pensar que esta disponivel gratuitamente incrivel mesmo
[14:31] <MerliM> onboard pode ser intel radeon nvidia
[14:31] <info_> amd nvidia
[14:31] <MerliM> vago demais
[14:31] <MerliM> humm
[14:31] <MerliM> ou é amd ou é nvidia
[14:32] <MerliM> vamos pegar um case somente tá
[14:32] <info_> placa mae amd com nvidia
[14:32] <MerliM> barna, nao entendi do offtopic
[14:32] <info_> a placa nvidia é nforce 630a
[14:33] <info_> ja foi instaldo o run do drive
[14:33] <MerliM> info_, antes de instalar o .run o proprietario qual era o comportamento???
[14:33] <info_> instalado*
[14:33] <barna> ixi, esses .run dão ruim comigo aki
[14:33] <info_> o mesmo
[14:34] <MerliM> tentou antes de instalar rodar o mint via livecd
[14:34] <MerliM> ???
[14:34] <barna> info_, o mint não fornece os drivers por repositorio?
[14:34] <info_> foi instalado innumeras vezes
[14:35] <info_> é so clicar em qualquer browser que trava tudo
[14:35] <info_> tem bloqueio de proxy em minha rede
[14:35] <info_> nao tem como baixar os driver por repositorio
[14:36] <MerliM> info_, nem setando o proxy nao deixa??w
[14:36] <MerliM> O.o
[14:36] <asdf111> info_, aprenda desbloquear proxy em videos do youtube
[14:36] <barna> eu uso nvidia aki, (usando ubuntu), por rep instala e roda lizinho.
[14:36] <MerliM> info_, so uma curiosidade esse proxy libera facebook???
[14:37] <MerliM> info_, se vc nao usar nenhum browser o sistema funciona normalmente?????
[14:37] <info_> ele funciona normalmente sem clicar nos browser
[14:37] <info_> nos usamos rede movel aqui
[14:37] <info_> e mesmo assim trava
[14:37] <info_> baixamos os driver e continua o problema
[14:38] <MerliM> cara ta confuso tu ta muito aguniado kkk
[14:38] <MerliM> calma
[14:39] <MerliM> por partes
[14:39] <MerliM> quais browsers vc tem
[14:39] <MerliM> ?
[14:39] <lynxer10> auhuhauhauhauhauhauh
[14:39] <info_> nos usamos o mozilla e testamos 1 vez o chrome
[14:39] <info_> e da a mesma coisa
[14:39] <MerliM> certo entendo, sera que teu proxy nao ta fazendo ele se comportar assim
[14:40] <MerliM> exemplo se vc abrir o proxy travar e vc pressionar control+alt+f2
[14:40] <info_> nao pq nos notebooks funcionam normalmente
[14:40] <MerliM> o que acontece
[14:40] <info_> so em desktop da esse problema
[14:40] <MerliM> qnts maquinas, qnts com a mesma configuração exatamente iguais
[14:41] <MerliM> já rodou um memtest???
[14:41] <info_> mesmo sem proxy ele trava o pc
[14:41] <MerliM> entendo pode fazer esse teste agora?
[14:41] <MerliM> abrir o navegador quando travar control+alt+f2
[14:41] <info_> vou ter que instalar o mint novamente
[14:42] <info_> pq instalamos o ubuntu e nem inicia ele quer
[14:42] <barna> info_, quantas maquinas apresentando esse problema?
[14:42] <barna> info_, qual versão do ubuntu?
[14:42] <info_> em 2
[14:42] <info_> pq ainda estamos com 2 apenas
[14:42] <info_> mas tem meu notebook que funciona normal
[14:43] <info_> e um netbook
[14:43] <info_> 14.10
[14:43] <info_> ja testamos umas 6 versoes diferentes
[14:43] <info_> e da o mesmo problema
[14:44] <barna> aedigital, entra no canal ##._.## tamo continuado o papo por lá!
[14:44] <MerliM> info_, ta ruim de ajudar mano
[14:44] <MerliM> pode fazer o que to pendindo
[14:44] <MerliM> nao adianta ficar se reclamando
[14:44] <barna> info_, o 14.10 foi descontinuado, ele não funciona mais mesmo!
[14:44] <info_> hmm blz
[14:45] <barna> info_, faz o q o MerliM pedio, precisamos de mais infos pra poder te ajudar.
[14:45] <info_> vamos instalar o cinnamon 17.2 agora
[14:45] <MerliM> aff
[14:45] <info_> qual que funciona
[14:46] <barna> info_, se quiser uma versão mais estavel e com suporte a longo prazo o 14.04
[14:46] <info_> e de linux mint?
[14:46] <barna> info_, se quiser uma versão mais nova e cheia de novidades, mas q só vai rodar até junho de 2016, o 15.10
[14:47] <info_> o teste de memtest ja foi feito
[14:47] <info_> em maquinas diferentes
[14:47] <aedigital> barna tnx
[14:47] <aedigital> mas toh enrolado aqui no trabalho agora
[14:48] <barna> blz, só pra num excluir, pq vc tava no papo. :)
[14:48] <aedigital> suave
[14:48] <aedigital> :)
[14:48] <barna> info_, qual a função dessas maquinas?
[14:49] <info_> desktop de uso normal
[14:50] <barna> vc falow q tem varias e falow "nós" em todas as falas, então achei q era uso empresarial ou algo do tipo.
[14:50] <barna> pra alguma função especifica.
[14:54] <info__> pode ser problema de plug-in?
[14:59] <hggdh> MerliM: UBuntu agora usa systemd, dado que o Debian decidiu por ele.
[14:59] <lynxer10> o ctrl + alt + f2 nao funciona?
[15:00] <lynxer10> info__: voce tentou instalar outra distro pra ver se funciona?
[15:01] <info__> sim
[15:02] <info__> todas do mint
[15:02] <info__> v 17
[15:02] <info__> e ubuntu
[15:02] <info__> 14
[15:03] <info__> to baixando o ubuntu 15.10 para test
[15:03] <barna> info__, qual a configuração do computador?
[15:03] <lynxer10> info__: achei aqui um cara com o mesmo problema que voce e conseguiu resolver veja se te ajuda --> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1589135
[15:05] <lynxer10> https://www.irccloud.com/pastebin/oRJTXezW/
[15:05] <info__> cpu athlon II mobo apmcp68
[15:05] <lynxer10> info__: entao e exatamente o mesmo problema que o do cara
[15:05] <lynxer10> info__: no link tem a solucao
[15:05] <info__> ok vou dar uma olhada
[15:05] <MerliM> ate eu vou olhar
[15:05] <MerliM> lynxer10, obg
[15:05] <lynxer10> de nada vei
[15:06] <lynxer10> finalmente em alguma servi pra algo
[15:06] <lynxer10> auhauhauha
[15:06] <lynxer10> ou nao :P
[15:06] <barna> é assim q começa......
[15:06] <lynxer10> The problem was the Cool & Quiet a.k.a. powernowd feature from my AMD processor
[15:06] <lynxer10> disabled 'Enhanced Intel Speedstep Technology' in the BIOS
[15:08] <MerliM> lynxer10, gerenciamento de energia né mano ahuah
[15:08] <MerliM> lynxer10, é assim mano depois ta fera
[15:08] <lynxer10> yep
[15:08] <lynxer10> uhauhauhauh, tomara vei
[15:10] <shallwe> caramba nem sabia tinha irc pro pidgin kkkk
[15:10] <barna> ixi, usei isso em 2009, no jaunty
[15:10] <shallwe> quer dizer eu sabia, mas nunca usei kkk
[15:10] <MerliM> shallwe, o pidgin que suporta N protocolos mano desde jabber VOIP icq atéee msn
[15:10] <barna> na verdade a primeira vez q entrei aki foi pelo pidgin.
[15:10] <shallwe> e funciona perfeito :)
[15:10] <MerliM> skype
[15:11] <MerliM> facebook eles bloquearam a rede para usar somente via messenger
[15:11] <lynxer10> pidgin usei quando usava o slackware
[15:11] <MerliM> ele era otimo pra acessar so o chat mesmo
[15:11] <shallwe> MerliM: facebook uso pelo pidgin normalmente
[15:11] <lynxer10> po isso em 2006/7
[15:11] <shallwe> MerliM: claro tem que instalar um plugin e era isso
[15:12] <MerliM> ta usando o pidgin e facebook normal HOJE agora????
[15:12] <barna> mas acho o pidgin confuso pra mim q to logado em 15 canais e 2 redes irc.
[15:12] <lynxer10> quem?
[15:12] <MerliM> shallwe,
[15:12] <shallwe> barna: a sim ele é bom com pouca coisa se não fica cheio de abas lá em cima
[15:12] <lynxer10> eu uso o xchat ou esse irccloud que e o unico que funciona no proxy aqui
[15:13] <shallwe> como estou somente no ubuntu-br e no porn-br então ta bom
[15:13] <MerliM> barna, so configurar ele pra marcar diferente as cores dos canais e exibir o icone da rede/protocolo
[15:13] <barna> sim, hoje uso o xchat
[15:13] <MerliM> fica show
[15:13] <lynxer10> uhauhauhauhuhauhauhauhauhauhuh
[15:13] <MerliM> tudo em um unico messenger é muito TOPPP
[15:13] <shallwe> verdade :) tudo integrado
[15:13] <shallwe> nem vou mais suar o xchat
[15:13] <shallwe> alias vou até desinstalar
[15:13] <MerliM> porn-br O.o files XXX
[15:13] <MerliM> ahuahuah
[15:14] <lynxer10> alguem ja usou o slackware? essa distro me fez pegar raiva de linux na epoca auhuhauhauha
[15:14] <hggdh> ...
[15:14] <MerliM> hggdh, calma
[15:14] <shallwe> lynxer10: eu já usei
[15:14] <MerliM> pessoal boa no offtopic
[15:14] <shallwe> eram dias configurando essa coisa
[15:14] <lynxer10> po, por causa dela fiquei anos sem usar linux
[15:14] <hggdh> ok. Vamos voltar ao tópico, por favor.
[15:15] <lynxer10> passei uma raiva do caramba uhaauhauhuh
[15:15] <shallwe> eu usei slackware pq na época dos pcs antigos qualquer coisa ajudava no desempenho, agora hoje em dia com 4 cores 8gb ram, ninguem mais fica fazendo isso pra desktop normal
[15:15] <hggdh> lynxer10, shallwe: basta
[15:15] <lynxer10> exatamente, eu fiz pelo menos motivo
[15:15] <lynxer10> ok
[15:15] <lynxer10> info__: funcionou?
[15:16] <barna> shallwe, bora pro ##._.## ?
[15:16] <shallwe> é verdade
[15:17] <info__> eu to almoçando agora enquanto baixa o ubuntu 15.10
[15:17] <shallwe> acabei de apagar partição swap, ficou bem melhor ubuntu :)
[15:17] <lynxer10> ah ok
[15:18] <shallwe> pra mim a única diferença do ubuntu 14.04 pro 15.10 visivelmente que notei é a scrollbar que elas são menores :) fora isso ta tudo igual
[15:18] <hggdh> a maior parte das mudanças foram internas
[15:19] <barna> pois é, por baixo vi muuuuuitas mudanças.
[15:19] <shallwe> hggdh: pois é, até pq visualmente já ta bom, não tem muito o que mudar
[15:19] <MerliM> hggdh, nisso eu curto o plano da cannonical eles refinam bem o sistema
[15:19] <shallwe> espero o 16.04 :)
[15:19] <MerliM> pegaram uma base visual bonita e tem se dedicado ao motor
[15:19] <shallwe> mas espero mesmo o mir e o unity 8 ai sim acho que teremos bastante mudanças
[15:19] <MerliM> isso é louvavel
[15:20] <shallwe> MerliM: até pq tem os themas né, se quiser mudar um pouco o visual :)
[15:20] <MerliM> shallwe, rapidaooo
[15:20] <shallwe> eu estou usando um aqui
[15:20] <MerliM> vc ta usando o pidgin com plugin do facebook atualmetne e funciona
[15:20] <MerliM> HOJE agora???
[15:20] <hggdh> mir e unity8 estão disponíveis via 15.10 e algumas ppas. Mir está no repositório
[15:20] <shallwe> MerliM: sim, vou te passar o link do nosso amigo edivaldo
[15:20] <MerliM> ok
[15:20] <MerliM> gratoo
[15:21] <shallwe> MerliM: http://www.edivaldobrito.com.br/chat-do-facebook-no-pidgin/
[15:21] <MerliM> cara q massa so em poder ter no pidgin por conta dos clientes chatos aff
[15:21] <MerliM> obg
[15:21] <MerliM> hggdh, obg pela paciencia
[15:21] <lynxer10> hggdh: eu cheguei a testar mas deu um monte de pau na minha maquina, travando, tela preta , nao reconhecia os dois monitores ae desinstalei
[15:21] <shallwe> MerliM: claro, uso pidgin direto, agora com essa do irc funcionando bem aqui completou
[15:22] <hggdh> lynxer10: esta é a razão pela qual Mir ainda não entrou (ou Wayland): um servidor X é complexo, se queremos manter a maldita compatibilidade
[15:22] <hggdh> MerliM: welcome
[15:23] <shallwe> estou usando esse tema atualmente: http://i.imgur.com/iSsSCdh.jpg
[15:23] <lynxer10> hggdh: verdade
[15:23] <shallwe> ubuntu 14.04
[15:23] <lynxer10> galera vou almocar ja volto
[15:23] <shallwe> bom almoço
[15:23] <lynxer10> dps me avisem se o info__ resolveu
[15:24] <lynxer10> valeu
[15:24] <lynxer10> ate ja
[15:24] <barna> só acho um tanto quanto arriscado lançar o mir e unity 8 numa LTS.
[15:25] <barna> pra mim, o ideial seria lançar/testar nas non-lts antes.
[15:26] <MerliM> hggdh, digo mais um servidor X é toscoooo O.o
[15:26] <MerliM> o drawing dele vixi
[15:27] <asdf111> MerliM, o X é muito bem feito mano
[15:27] <asdf111> muito estavel
[15:28] <asdf111> é anos de teste e bugs resolvidos
[15:30] <hggdh> barna: no creio que a 16.04 tenha Mir como default (ou seja, ficarei surpreso se for o default). Eu esperaria Mir como default em uma LTS+1
[15:31] <hggdh> barna: isto nos daria quase que dois anos para refinar antes de dacisão de colocar Mir como default em uma LTS
[15:31] <MerliM> shallwe, lindo tema
[15:31] <MerliM> asdf111, é nada já li sobre
[15:32] <MerliM> estavel é porem bem-feito kkk nops eles mesmo tem medo de mexer no codigo mano
[15:32] <MerliM> asdf111, existem bugs nao resolvidos até hoje man
[15:32] <MerliM> tinha um outro dia ai rolando nao lembro qual
[15:32] <barna> massa hggdh , é isso q eu sempre espero/conto da canonical.
[15:33] <hggdh> barna: é isto que espero, mas não com que eu conto ;-)
[15:33] <barna> hehehehehehehehehehehe
[15:34] <shallwe> MerliM: é eu gostei do thema principalmente os ícones redondos :)
[15:34] <asdf111> acredito que o Mir é uma criança que tem muito a crescer ainda
[15:35] <shallwe> e como eu trabalho com isso de design acho o estilo do ubuntu com os degradẽs meio passado kkk
[15:35] <shallwe> a tendencia agora é tudo cor chapada ta na moda
[15:36] <shallwe> mas isso é detalhe, como falei, só instalar o thema e ta resolvido, o principal do funcionamento esta tudo blz :)
[15:43] <shallwe> constatado nos meus testes, pelo menos agora nas versões atuais de apis pra games, metro last night redux, que é uma versão remasterizada com gráficos melhorados, no linux roda melhor que windows :)
[15:47] <MerliM> shallwe, games sempre rodaram melhor no linux ahuahuaha
[15:47] <shallwe> quando feito nativamente a princípio sim
[15:50] <MerliM> shallwe, nao mano na base de dados do playonlinux e wine até alguns jogos emulados usando wine tem desempenho melhor no linux
[15:51] <shallwe> a bom aí não sei, não jogo muito, só testei esse pq está uma polêmica com o lançamento dos steam machines
[15:51] <shallwe> quem joga é a patroa o league of legends, eu só jogo as vezes emulador :)
[15:52] <shallwe> tudo no ubuntu
[15:52] <MerliM> lol
[15:52] <MerliM> top
[15:54] <shallwe> esse lol é perigoso, vicia as mulheres cheio de frescura e cores kkk
[15:54] <MerliM> kk
[15:54] <MerliM> shallwe, acessa ai man ##.-.## offtopic
[15:55] <shallwe> MerliM: a não cara, mais uma aba kkk
[15:55] <MerliM> kkkkkk
[15:55] <MerliM> nao pode falar disso aqui man
[15:57] <shallwe> sim mas já parei estava falando só sobre o desempenho de jogos no ubuntu
[15:59] <shallwe> estou testando e montando todo meu projeto novo só no inkscape e brackets, referente a websites claro
[15:59] <MerliM> pow depois manda um print gosto de vê
[15:59] <MerliM> shallwe, acho top o cara desenvolver tudo com OpenSource
[15:59] <shallwe> MerliM: não é script manolo é design kkk
[16:00] <shallwe> tem o código mas é no brackets que uso pra fazer o html css javascript etc
[16:00] <MerliM> tem um canal de um cara no youtube fera profissional grafico que abandonou tudo adobe etc e foi pro opensource
[16:00] <MerliM> sim mano gostaria de ve a img do site antes de tu fatiar saca
[16:00] <asdf111> shallwe, instala o openbox e pega o pcsxr e seja feliz mano
[16:00] <shallwe> inkscape pra uso ta bom na web, ele só não é bom AINDA pra impressão, por causa dos cores CMYK, mas no resto ta ótimo
[16:01] <shallwe> asdf111: openbox?
[16:01] <asdf111> com isso cria uma maquina de ps1 portatil
[16:01] <asdf111> shallwe, openbox é WM mais simples mano
[16:01] <asdf111> interface
[16:01] <asdf111> 100% feita em C puro
[16:01] <shallwe> asdf111: a ta eu uso o virtualbox
[16:02] <shallwe> sim mas o pcsxr rodo no ubuntu mesmo :)
[16:02] <MerliM> asdf111, o que é pcsxr????
[16:02] <shallwe> psx emulator
[16:02] <asdf111> MerliM, emulador de psx
[16:02] <shallwe> tem até nos repositorios do ubuntu eu acho
[16:02] <MerliM> jogo
[16:02] <shallwe> mas quando eu falo que eu jogo emulador é raramente kkk, eu faço mais é coleção mesmo, testo etc, jogar jogar muito pouco
[16:02] <asdf111> MerliM, roda todas as iso do psx
[16:03] <MerliM> compilar o brackers aqui nada pra fazer
[16:03] <MerliM> asdf111, minha steamMachine vai ter isso
[16:03] <asdf111> MerliM, com certeza
[16:04] <asdf111> é linux, então tem tudo
[16:10] <MerliM> shallwe, vc é webmaster man??? profissionalmente ou é hobbista
[16:21] <shallwe> MerliM: eu fiz faculdade de design pra impressão, mas por fora estudei pra web
[16:27] <MerliM> massa
[16:27] <MerliM> deve ser fera
[16:28] <MerliM> mostra um trabalho seu ai mano curioso
[16:29] <lynxer10> e mermo fiquei curioso tb
[16:29] <lynxer10> MerliM: vei vc tem 100gb de emulador e nao joga? O.o so tem doido
[16:30] <lynxer10> auhuhauhauauhauh
[16:30] <info__> lynxer10 até agora o ubuntu 15.10 funcionou certinho
[16:31] <lynxer10> info__: show de bola cara :)
[16:31] <shallwe> depois eu vejo se não fica muito off topico e vamos fanhar xixi de novo kkk
[16:31] <info__> obg por tudo ae pessoal
[16:31] <shallwe> mas meu último projeto é um logo pra mim :) http://i.imgur.com/hq2eHeE.png
[16:31] <lynxer10> info__: de nada vei
[16:31] <MerliM> lynxer10, jogar perda de tempo estudar API do jogo PRO
[16:31] <MerliM> $$$$$
[16:32] <shallwe> lynxer10: sou eu que tenho 100gb de emulador :)
[16:32] <lynxer10> uhauhauhhauuhauh
[16:32] <lynxer10> ahhh e mesmo shallwe
[16:32] <asdf111> MerliM, verdade mano
[16:32] <lynxer10> mestredosmagos ta revoltado hoje
[16:32] <lynxer10> uhauhuhauhau
[16:34] <lynxer10> mas voces tem que considerar que TI nao e minha area, gostaria que fosse mas sou muito burro com programacao
[16:35] <MerliM> lynxer10, qual tua area
[16:35] <lynxer10> neurocirurgia
[16:36] <MerliM> kkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkk
[16:36] <MerliM> ganha RIOS de grana que tu quer aqui mano
[16:36] <lynxer10> uhauhauhauhauh
[16:36] <MerliM> eu se fosse tu tava na praia com monte de mulher
[16:36] <lynxer10> ue vei, gosto do linux
[16:36] <MerliM> olokooo
[16:36] <MerliM> entao deixa eu gastar tua grana por ti
[16:36] <lynxer10> nao e essa maravilha toda nao
[16:36] <lynxer10> mas quebra o galho
[16:36] <MerliM> deve tirar por mes uns 25 mil pauss
[16:36] <lynxer10> uhauhauhauhauh
[16:37] <lynxer10> quem dera vei
[16:37] <Dead_Thinker> lynxer10: legal, uma vez um médico francês fez umas colaborações muito importantes pra uns drivers de vídeo linux, uns anos atrás, foi até notícia e etc
[16:37] <MerliM> medico inicia com 10k dilmas mano nem vem
[16:37] <lynxer10> nao e meu caso Dead_Thinker sei nada de nada de programacao :/
[16:38] <lynxer10> sao 12 anos de facul vei
[16:38] <lynxer10> + especializacao
[16:38] <Dead_Thinker> lynxer10: hehe, não é nada de outro mundo, tem muito autodidata ai, mas entendo, só comentei o caso. Já é bacana participar da comunidade linux
[16:38] <lynxer10> a vida toda estudando
[16:38] <lynxer10> valeu Dead_Thinker
[16:38] <MerliM> ai forma 25k de leve
[16:38] <MerliM> ahuauahua
[16:39] <MerliM> cerebro mano orgao mais caro
[16:39] <lynxer10> uhauhauhauhhuauhauh
[16:39] <MerliM> hora de ser tipo 500/h
[16:39] <MerliM> kkk
[16:39] <MerliM> quero ser isso q tu he auahuah
[16:39] <lynxer10> o pior que eu queria ser era programador
[16:39] <asdf111> lynxer10, tenho uma bala na cabeça
[16:39] <lynxer10> medicina coisa de familai
[16:40] <asdf111> como faço para tira-la ?
[16:40] <lynxer10> foi por livre e espontanea pressao
[16:40] <lynxer10> uhauhauhauhauh
[16:40] <lynxer10> asdf111, vei se vc realmente tem boa coisa voce nao faz
[16:41] <asdf111> lynxer10, kkkkkkkk
[16:41] <MerliM> kkkkkkkkkkkk
[16:41] <MerliM> rouba as conexoes do vizinhos da nisso
[16:41] <asdf111> MerliM, KKKKKKKKK
[16:42] <MerliM> lynxer10, agora usa teu conhecimento medico e estuda programacao pra desenvolver apps for android alinhados com monitores de pacientes usando rasperry
[16:42] <MerliM> eu tenho essa ideia
[16:42] <Dead_Thinker> lynxer10: hj em dia é mais fácil ainda, com esses code academy da vida
[16:42] <MerliM> hggdh, quer me matar de susto mano
[16:42] <hggdh> MerliM: ainda não :-). Mas é bom irem conversar neste ##----###
[16:43] <MerliM> eu ja disse ninguem me houve ai reclamam de vc
[16:43] <MerliM> te acho injustiçado
[16:43] <MerliM> ^^
[16:43] <lynxer10> hahuauhauhauha
[16:43] <MerliM> hggdh, o canal é esse mano ##.-.##
[16:44] <lynxer10> bom larguemos minha vida de lado e voltemos ao que interessa
[16:46] <shallwe> esses caras não sabem quando parar kkk é fogo, uma coisa é fazer comentários outra é puxar um assunto
[16:46] <MerliM> hggdh, cara botei fé em vc
[17:34] <hggdh> uff
[17:36] <aedigital> osloko
[17:37] <hggdh> limpeza de outono
[17:37] <aedigital> hehehe
[17:42] <kanazuchi> ;)
[17:44] <rafael> hunf
[18:17] <jaqent> hggdh: pode me tirar uma dúvida?
[18:32] <Pirata-Os> ola
[18:33] <aedigital> oi
[18:41] <Horo_horo> vi no site que o 14.10 ainda está para baixar...mas valeu a informação
[19:14] <sidnei> Boa tarde, amigos!
[19:16] <shallwe> boa tarde
[19:43] <eloi_carneiro> Boa tarde, alguém já tentou configurar o fstab para montar um partição smb/cifs automatico no boot do computador
[19:43] <eloi_carneiro> estou usando o ubuntu 15.10 mas a configuração não esta funcionando
[19:43] <eloi_carneiro> alguém já passou por isso nessa versão do ubuntu?
[19:46] <jaqent> eloi_carneiro: qual erro que vc recebe?
[19:46] <eloi_carneiro> quando eu configuro
[19:46] <eloi_carneiro> e mando um mount -a
[19:46] <eloi_carneiro> ele monta normalmente
[19:46] <eloi_carneiro> quando reinicio a maquina
[19:46] <eloi_carneiro> o linux não monta ela automaticamente
[19:46] <eloi_carneiro> já tentei os paramentros auto
[19:47] <eloi_carneiro> _netdev
[19:47] <eloi_carneiro> nobootwait
[19:47] <eloi_carneiro> já tentei colocar mount /media/pasta no /etc/rc.local
[19:47] <eloi_carneiro> entfim
[19:47] <eloi_carneiro> não estou achando o erro
[19:47] <eloi_carneiro> estou achando que é o systemd
[19:48] <eloi_carneiro> porque a unica coisa que mudou do 14.04 para o 15.10
[19:48] <eloi_carneiro> que eu acho que pode estar interferindo é o systemd
[19:48] <eloi_carneiro> jaqent, vc já fez esse tipo de configuração no fstab
[19:48] <eloi_carneiro> ?
[19:50] <jaqent> eloi_carneiro: tenta adicionar x-systemd.automount,x-systemd.device-timeout=3 antes das outras opções no fstab
[19:50] <eloi_carneiro> na mesma linha
[19:50] <eloi_carneiro> tipo
[19:51] <eloi_carneiro> x-systemd.automount,x-systemd.device-timeout=3 //server/pasta /media/pasta_local cifs rw,auto,username=guest,password=,iocharset=utf8 0 0
[19:51] <eloi_carneiro> seria assim
[19:51] <eloi_carneiro> ?
[19:51] <jaqent> quase
[19:52] <jaqent> //server/pasta /media/pasta_local cifs x-systemd.automount,x-systemd.device-timeout=3,rw,auto,username=guest,password=,iocharset=utf8 0 0
[19:53] <jaqent> eloi_carneiro: embora esse talvez não seja o melhor jeito de se resolver isso, confesso que não tenho muito interesse no systemd para aprender a usar ele de verdade.
[19:53] <eloi_carneiro> cara se for o systemd, pqp
[19:54] <eloi_carneiro> porque o pessoal foi trocar
[19:54] <jaqent> A razão pela qual ela não esta montando muito provávelmente é pq a ordem do systemd não esta no ideal, tipo a a rede fica pronta mas o samba ainda não, ou o samba ficou pronto e a rede não ai ele falha
[19:54] <eloi_carneiro> e pelo que vi até agora não achei vantagem nele
[19:55] <eloi_carneiro> jaqent, vc sabe como se muda essa ordem
[19:55] <jaqent> se não me engano tem como vc configurar o systemd pra garantir que as coisas sigam uma certa ordem, só não faço a menor idéia de como
[19:55] <eloi_carneiro> porque por padrão deve ser conforme a necessidade
[19:55] <eloi_carneiro> não sei
[19:55] <eloi_carneiro> entendi
[19:55] <jaqent> eloi_carneiro: não faço, não
[19:56] <jaqent> eloi_carneiro: sinceramente não sei pq o systemd, mas tb nunca entendi o pq do pulse
[19:58] <eloi_carneiro> o pulse saiu também né?
[19:58] <eloi_carneiro> o que ficou no lugar
[19:58] <eloi_carneiro> ?
[19:59] <jaqent> eloi_carneiro: não sabia que o pulse tinha saido, eu nunca entendi pq colocaram ele XD
[19:59] * jaqent não é muito fão do trabalho do Lennart
[20:01] <eloi_carneiro> jaqent, opa
[20:02] <eloi_carneiro> deu certo
[20:02] <eloi_carneiro> ahhhhhh
[20:02] <eloi_carneiro> não acredito
[20:02] <eloi_carneiro> jaqent, valeu pela ajuda
[20:03] <jaqent> eloi_carneiro: as ordens :)
[20:04] <eloi_carneiro> agora fechou
[20:04] <eloi_carneiro> tenho 28 maquinas para tirar o xp e 7
[20:04] <eloi_carneiro> colocar o maravilhoso lubuntu
[20:05] <eloi_carneiro> mas com isso a infra ficou redondinha
[20:05] <jaqent> eloi_carneiro: ai sim :D
[20:05] <eloi_carneiro> detalhe o ERP que é feito pra windows
[20:05] <eloi_carneiro> vai rodar em wine
[20:06] <eloi_carneiro> o que dá dor no coração é a empresa que desenvolve
[20:06] <eloi_carneiro> não sabe disse
[20:06] <jaqent> seria bom se eles portassem pra linux :D
[20:06] <eloi_carneiro> e querendo ou não é uma solução que ela poderia oferecer para todos os cliente
[20:06] <eloi_carneiro> então
[20:07] <eloi_carneiro> o ERP é bem completo, acho dificil eles portarem para o linux, ou re-programarem em alguma linguagem multi plataforma
[20:07] <eloi_carneiro> mas senão me engano o teamviewer
[20:07] <eloi_carneiro> usa o wine para oferecer a versão windows
[20:08] <eloi_carneiro> ou pelo menos usava no inicio
[20:08] <eloi_carneiro> imagina só o meu caso
[20:08] <eloi_carneiro> eu tenho 28 maquinas
[20:08] <eloi_carneiro> vezes R$ 734 para cada windows 10 pro
[20:08] <eloi_carneiro> olha a economia
[20:09] <eloi_carneiro> tirando o fato que ficou mais rapido com o lubuntu e wine, do que em direto no xp ou 7 dá pra acreditar?
[20:09] <jaqent> eloi_carneiro: se importaria de levarmos essa prosa pro ##.-.##
[20:09] <eloi_carneiro> ok
[20:12] <shallwe> fogo cara que lê livros e estuda, depois chega alguem falando pra ti "pega pra MIM comer" é de doer no ouvido kkkk
[20:13] <jaqent> kkkkkkkkkk
[21:08] <a325> boa tarde
[21:12] <a325> estou usando instalar o xchat mas não esta achando o pacote, alguem pode me ajudar ?
[21:13] <shallwe> boa tarde
[21:13] <shallwe> como assim o pacote? da algum erro na hora de instalar:
[21:13] <shallwe> ?
[21:14] <a325> sudo apt-get install xchat
[21:14] <a325> E: Impossível encontrar o pacote xchat
[21:14] <shallwe> a325: qual versão do ubuntu?
[21:14] <shallwe> é isso mesmo, cola aqui o erro
[21:15] <a325> 14.10
[21:15] <shallwe> a sim
[21:15] <shallwe> ta fora de suporte essa versão, é instalação nova?
[21:15] <a325> $ sudo apt-get install xchat Lendo listas de pacotes... Pronto Construindo árvore de dependências Lendo informação de estado... Pronto E: Impossível encontrar o pacote xchat
[21:16] <shallwe> vc pegou no site do ubuntu-br né?
[21:17] <Dead_Thinker> dejavu feelings, a325 eu uso hexchat no 15.10
[21:17] <shallwe> Dead_Thinker: é que ele ta com o ubuntu velho vai ver pode ser isso
[21:17] <shallwe> tem que mudar o source, quando sai do suporte é mudado o endereço do apt-get
[21:17] <Dead_Thinker> shallwe: blz, acho q foi contigo que discuti isso uma vez, sobre o hexchat vs xchat, e a licença
[21:18] <shallwe> Dead_Thinker: licença?
[21:19] <Dead_Thinker> é, pq o xchat usei no windows uma vez, e depois de um tempo parou de funcionar, dizendo q o trial tinha acabado
[21:19] <Dead_Thinker> ou foi o hexchat, n lembro hehe
[21:19] <shallwe> Dead_Thinker: credo kkk, acho que foi um clone então
[21:19] <shallwe> o xchat é opensource
[21:19] <jaqent> shallwe: não o binário do windows
[21:19] <jaqent> quero dizer é open source, e vc pode compilar o seu
[21:20] <jaqent> mas o binário tem umas frescuras dessas
[21:20] <a325> foi sim shallwe
[21:20] <shallwe> jaqent: sim vc pode compilar, usar distribuir, modificar e tudo mais, mas não vender
[21:20] <jaqent> shallwe: pode sim
[21:20] <shallwe> vc pode vender seus serviços e o gasto de tempo
[21:21] <jaqent> exatamente isso que eles fazem, é uma taxa pra cobrir a manutenção dos binários não o software. Mas a maioria das licenças deixa a pessoa empacotar e vender
[21:21] <shallwe> jaqent: é bem complicada essa questão de opensouce
[21:21] <jaqent> desde que o código fonte esteja disponível pra pessoa
[21:21] <shallwe> jaqent: a sim, ai pode
[21:21] <shallwe> cobrar algo referente ao serviço, mas nunca pelo software em sí
[21:21] <a325> mirc que é pago
[21:22] <shallwe> nossa mirc ainda existe?
[21:22] <jaqent> shallwe: tras memórias não?
[21:23] <a325> com um site em tabelas http://www.mirc.com/index.html
[21:23] <shallwe> mirc nunca usei muito
[21:23] <shallwe> mas sei que era famoso assim como o icq
[21:23] <jaqent> bons tempos
[21:24] <shallwe> :)
[21:24] <shallwe> mas e ai a325 vc baixou esse ubuntu agora?
[21:26] <a325> não, já ta com ano
[21:26] <shallwe> a325: a bom, é que realmente ele saiu do suporte
[21:27] <shallwe> pois o comando é esse, já tentou instalar pela centra do ubuntu?
[21:27] <shallwe> só pra ver se aparece lá
[21:27] <shallwe> e quando vc faz "sudo apt-get update" o que dá?
[21:29] <Dead_Thinker> quem nunca usou um fileserver pra trocar arquivos no #sexfiles hehe, sdds brasnet :P
[21:29] <jaqent> não tenho certeza shallwe, mas acho que alguém comentou aqui esses dias que quando a distro é descontinuada os repositórios são desligados depois de um tempo
[21:30] <shallwe> jaqent: desligados não, são redirecionados, mas tem que arrumar o list
[21:30] <shallwe> ai ficarão lá sempre os mesmos apps sem atualização alguma
[21:30] <jaqent> shallwe: seria melhor desligar então :x
[21:31] <shallwe> jaqent: kk sim, mas caso alguem tenha algum antigo ou sei lá mesmo pra estudos é melhor manter
[21:31] <a325> com o lançamento do 15.10 tive que alterar
[21:31] <a325> a lista
[21:31] <shallwe> wow ubuntu-br.org fora do ar, será que finalmente irão arrumar o link do ubuntu 14.04:)
[21:36] <shallwe> nossa quassel, isso não era do antigo kde?
[21:37] <nuno_nunes> boa noite a todos
[21:38] <nuno_nunes> alguem precisa de suporte :)
[21:38] <shallwe> boa noite
[21:38] <shallwe> nuno_nunes: já to atendendo alguem, chegou tarde :)
[21:38] <shallwe> cliente é meu, mas ele ta meio calado, acho que saiu
[21:38] <nuno_nunes> shallwe, lol
[21:39] <nuno_nunes> shallwe, eu hoje estou com um problema com os linux todos :S
[21:39] <nuno_nunes> por causa do uefi
[21:39] <nuno_nunes> :|
[21:39] <shallwe> xiii
[21:40] <nuno_nunes> este pc instalou um update ao windows 10 :S
[21:40] <nuno_nunes> ficou assim
[21:40] <nuno_nunes> sem secure boot
[21:40] <jaqent> eu sinto a sua dor
[21:40] <nuno_nunes> tem que ser reparado lol
[21:40] <nuno_nunes> jaqent, isto é facil de resolver
[21:40] <shallwe> nuno_nunes: a bom ai com live cd pra resolver?
[21:40] <nuno_nunes> eu não estou com dor
[21:41] <jaqent> foi força de expressão
[21:41] <nuno_nunes> eu vou ter que limpar o windows
[21:41] <nuno_nunes> pk esta lerdo
[21:41] <nuno_nunes> :D
[21:41] <nuno_nunes> está como o governo portugues
[21:41] <nuno_nunes> :D
[21:44] <nuno_nunes> mas alguem precisa de suporte
[21:46] <nuno_nunes> eu vou jogar :D
[21:47] <shallwe> nuno_nunes: me encontra la o dota 2
[21:48] <nuno_nunes> eu vou jogar metin2
[21:48] <nuno_nunes> :D
[21:48] <shallwe> tenho nem ideia do que seja
[21:48] <nuno_nunes> é um jogo
[21:48] <nuno_nunes> :D
[21:48] <shallwe> só tenho dota 2 e metro last night aqui no steam ubuntu
[21:48] <shallwe> testando eles
[22:14] <astroo-> ola pessoal
[23:02] <lynxer10x> boa noite galera
[23:02] <MerliM> lynxer10x, boa
[23:02] <lynxer10x> veredito do intel compute stick = uma bosta uhauhahuahuhau
[23:03] <lynxer10x> c
[23:03] <rdconsolo_> noite
[23:03] <rdconsolo_> o que tinha nesse stick? windows? linux?
[23:04] <lynxer10x> e a versao que vem com o windows e estou tentando rodar o linux
[23:05] <astroo-> ola
[23:05] <rdconsolo_> windows ainda vai demorar para rodar bem nesse tipo de dispositivo mesmo
[23:08] <lynxer10x> nao, o problema nao e esse. roda rapido alias fiquei surpreso com a velocidade do boot. ele vem com win 8.1 e deixa voce atualizar ao win 10. a questao e que o dipositivo e todo travado . na versao windows ele nao deixa de jeito nenhum bootar um linux que nao seja exatamente o ubuntu 14.04. qq outra distro ele nao reconhece
[23:08] <lynxer10x> dentre outras limitacoes
[23:08] <lynxer10x> nao aconselho a compra.
[23:09] <rdconsolo_> entendi. quanto de memória no modelo?
[23:10] <lynxer10x> a versao windows vem com 2 gb de memoria ram e 32 gb de disco(que e a versao que comprei) a versao linux vem com 1 gb de ram e 8 gb de disco (que por isso nao comprei)
[23:15] <rdconsolo_> boa escolha. desse jeito o Linux roda melhor com mais espaço. tenho um T100A da ASUS e ele tem um SSD de 32GB na parte da tela e mais 500GB de HD na parte do teclado. infelizmente o windows update não baixa os arquivos para o HD. me deu canseira para a última atualização do Win10... nada como um bom e velho apt no terminal
[23:19] <lynxer10x> auhuahuahahuauh
[23:21] <lynxer10x> santo apt
[23:23] <rdconsolo_> falando em apt, sempre usei apt-get no terminal. só recentemente descobri que se usar somente apt ele mostra uma barra de progresso na atualização!!!
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ubuntu-chat
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2024-05-13T22:11:19.045828
| 2015-11-18T00:00:00 |
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"license": "Public Domain",
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"Dead_Thinker",
"Horo_horo",
"KurtKraut",
"LeandroLuiz",
"Legendario",
"MerliM",
"Pirata-Os",
"a325",
"aedigital",
"asdf111",
"astroo-",
"barna",
"barna__",
"eloi_carneiro",
"hggdh",
"info_",
"info__",
"jaqent",
"kanazuchi",
"lynxer10",
"lynxer10x",
"nuno_nunes",
"rafael",
"rdconsolo_",
"shallwe",
"sidnei"
],
"url": "https://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2015/11/18/%23ubuntu-br.txt",
"channel": "#ubuntu-br"
}
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2015-11-18-#ubuntu-rs
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[12:37] <Panter> Pozdrav narode! Imam mali problem i ne mogu da nađem na netu odgovarajuće rešenje. Za nekoga od vas ovo će biti banalno.
[12:41] <Panter> Na komandu: "dpkg -l | grep linux-image-" dobijem gomilu starih kernela. Obrisao sam sve osim zadnje dve verzije pomoću: "sudo apt-get autoremove (kernel)" i prijavio ni je output da je urađeno. Međutim, kada ponovim "grep" sa početka, iako sam restartovao računar, sve mi ih prijavi. Šta se ovde dešava?
[12:43] <tilda_> pogledaj u /usr/src
[12:54] <tilda_> ako su tamo obriši ih ručno. kao root
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ubuntu-chat
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2024-05-13T22:11:19.055608
| 2015-11-18T00:00:00 |
{
"license": "Public Domain",
"authors": [
"Panter",
"tilda_"
],
"url": "https://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2015/11/18/%23ubuntu-rs.txt",
"channel": "#ubuntu-rs"
}
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2015-11-18-#ubuntu-locoteams
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[07:32] <dholbach> good morning
[09:29] <_Ridgewing> dholbach: good morning.
[09:59] <Kilos> hi dholbach dpm elacheche svij
[10:01] <dpm> hi Kilos
[10:01] <dholbach> hi Kilos
[10:13] <svij> hi Kilos
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ubuntu-chat
|
2024-05-13T22:11:19.056533
| 2015-11-18T00:00:00 |
{
"license": "Public Domain",
"authors": [
"Kilos",
"_Ridgewing",
"dholbach",
"dpm",
"svij"
],
"url": "https://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2015/11/18/%23ubuntu-locoteams.txt",
"channel": "#ubuntu-locoteams"
}
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