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[05:41] <pitti> Good morning
[05:54] <hikiko> Good morning !
[05:54] <hikiko> Hi pitti
[06:12] <didrocks> good morning
[06:30] <pitti> bonjour didrocks, hey hikiko!
[06:30] <darkxst> hey pitti, didrocks hikiko
[06:42] <didrocks> hey pitti, darkxst!
[06:46] <hikiko> hi didrocks darkxst :)
[06:47] <didrocks> hey hikiko :)
[06:51] <darkxst> heat wave here ;(
[06:51] <darkxst> seb128, Laney can you add me to the trello group
[07:00] <seb128> good morning desktopers!
[07:01] <didrocks> re seb128
[07:01] <seb128> re didrocks
[07:01] <seb128> darkxst, unsure how trello is working, need to have a look
[07:31] <seb128> darkxst, why did you report bug #1517317 against linux?
[07:32] <seb128> also why isn't debian having the issue? can we get it fixed there since it's in sync?
[07:33] <darkxst> seb128, it hasnt passed new queue yet, so there is no gnome-builder to file against
[07:33] <darkxst> I've commited the change to the debian svn also
[07:33] <seb128> yeah, in which case just report against ubuntu
[07:33] <seb128> no package is better than a wrong one
[07:33] <ricotz> hey desktopers
[07:33] <seb128> also https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-builder/+filebug ?
[07:33] <seb128> it went through source NEW
[07:33] <seb128> so the package exist
[07:34] <seb128> hey ricotz
[07:34] <ricotz> darkxst, seb128, I am hoping you are seeing broken CSD shadows too with gtk 3.18.5
[07:34] <seb128> ricotz, how broken? under what env?
[07:34] <seb128> I didn't upgrade yet, let me try
[07:34] <didrocks> hey ricotz
[07:34] <ricotz> seb128, missing transparency
[07:35] <ricotz> didrocks, hi
[07:36] <ricotz> (seb128, with gnome-shell)
[07:36] <seb128> ricotz, seems like the update is stil in xenial-proposed so I don't have it yet
[07:37] <seb128> unsure if that's a side effect of larsu's fix 0001-gtkwindow-continue-calling-gtk_style_context_set_bac.patch:
[07:37] <darkxst> seb128, apparently my search foo failed then
[07:38] <ricotz> seb128, will downgrade to confirm, but I pretty certain its gtk ;)
[07:40] <darkxst> seb128, I don't know why debian didnt see it, webkit2gtk must be pulled in elsewhere, but that is ok, I know they like to be explicit with the build-deps
[07:41] <seb128> darkxst, right, it's just weird that it gets pulled in for them
[07:41] <seb128> ricotz, yeah, it's likely
[07:41] <seb128> ricotz, and you shouldn't be used -proposed ;-)
[07:41] <darkxst> seb128, ricotz always uses proposed!
[07:41] <seb128> darkxst, you might want to look at https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=804769 while you are fixing gnome-builder?
[07:42] <darkxst> seb128, oh that is the same issue
[07:44] <ricotz> seb128, yeah, it is gtk causing it
[07:44] <darkxst> seb128, but I didnt see that in the debian build logs
[07:45] <ricotz> darkxst, I do indeed ;), would be just half of the fun without it
[07:45] <darkxst> ours "HTML and Markdown Preview ............ : no", theirs = yes
[07:47] <seb128> darkxst, their .install needs to be updated to including the missing files though no?
[07:47] <darkxst> seb128, looking at that now
[07:47] <seb128> thanks
[07:53] <darkxst> seb128, I think libide should be split out, assuming its really meant to be a public library
[07:54] <darkxst> ^ ricotz
[07:54] <darkxst> and the gir path is commented out, in the install file
[07:54] <larsu> good morning!
[07:54] <darkxst> no idea why
[07:55] <larsu> seb128: what's the problem?
[07:56] <larsu> seb128: also, good morning. ça va?
[08:03] <seb128> hey larsu, wie gehts?
[08:04] <seb128> larsu, ricotz says the gtk update has transparency issues under gnome-shell for CSD applications
[08:04] <seb128> larsu, but that's .4 -> .5 as well, so might not be your patch
[08:05] <larsu> seb128: my patch should only do unnecessary work on shell (set a bg color that is never used)
[08:05] <larsu> I'm good thanks :)
[08:20] <Trevinho> Morning
[08:21] <larsu> hey Trq
[08:21] <larsu> *Trevinho
[08:21] <seb128> hey Trevinho
[08:27] <didrocks> good morning Trevinho
[08:29] <larsu> hi didrocks!
[08:31] <ricotz> darkxst, does gnome-builder really install all required headers/dev-file/pkg-config now? otherwise there is not point in splitting it yet
[08:32] <didrocks> hey larsu ;)
[08:35] <darkxst> ricotz, no headers, but there are gir files, a pc file and docs, all for libide that are not installed due to the debian packaging
[08:36] <darkxst> I don't actaully know if libide is meant to be public though
[08:36] <ricotz> darkxst, the staging ppa contains a package was the merged into debian?
[08:36] <darkxst> ricotz, no, it wasnt
[08:36] <ricotz> darkxst, if there are no installed headers, everything is not usable like vapi/pc-file and so on
[08:37] <darkxst> ricotz, yes this is why I am questioning if any of it should be actually installed
[08:37] <ricotz> ok, that is what I did in staging
[08:37] <ricotz> (only install the required and usable parts)
[08:39] <darkxst> ricotz, right, so its probably fine as is, and can ignore all the list-missing output
[08:55] <willcooke> morning desktoppers
[08:56] <larsu> morning willcooke
[08:58] <didrocks> hey willcooke
[08:58] <seb128> hey willcooke
[08:58] <seb128> darkxst, ricotz, ignoring list-missing is poor taste and usually bites back at some point, better to --fail-missing and rm the things you don't want to install explicitely
[09:01] * didrocks hugs seb128 for this!
[09:01] <didrocks> that, trailing comas
[09:01] <didrocks> I CONVERTED YOU ALL! :)
[09:01] <darkxst> seb128, I didnt quite mean that literally, I will file an upstream bug and find out what is acutally meant to happen!
[09:03] * seb128 hugs didrocks
[09:03] <larsu> didrocks: you don't like trailing commas?,
[09:03] <seb128> darkxst, thanks
[09:03] * larsu doesn't know what didrocks is talking about,
[09:03] <didrocks> larsu: I do, I was quite alone pushing for it!
[09:03] <Laney> yo
[09:03] <didrocks> lonely* even :)
[09:03] <seb128> hey Laney
[09:03] <didrocks> hey Laney
[09:03] <larsu> Laney: morning!,
[09:03] <larsu> didrocks: ;)
[09:08] <davmor2> didrocks: Pffff
[09:13] <darkxst> https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=758266
[09:14] <darkxst> seb128, did you work out trello?
[09:15] <darkxst> or maybe willcooke has better trello skills ;)
[09:15] * didrocks is puzzled why his new zsh function isn't sourced in /usr/share/zsh/vendor-completions
[09:15] <didrocks> any zsh user familiar with that?
[09:15] <Laney> darkxst: I added you I think
[09:15] <Laney> enjoy
[09:16] * willcooke is reminded to send that email...
[09:17] <seb128> darkxst, sorry was dealing with night backlog, seems like Laney sorted it out for you
[09:17] <seb128> didrocks, I'm not, -devel might have more zsh users though
[09:17] <didrocks> seb128: yeah, good idea, continuing digging just in case
[09:18] * seb128 investigates a u-s-d crasher due to g-s-d dropping some schemas key and grrrr at GNOME handling of schemas
[09:18] <didrocks> of course, best way to find an issue: just speak about it on IRC and your next try will work!
[09:18] <darkxst> seb128, I didnt drop any schemas
[09:18] <darkxst> (in g-s-d)
[09:19] <seb128> darkxst, well, somebody did, I'm going to tell you who want when in a bit
[09:20] <darkxst> Laney, hmm, I can't actually add items still
[09:21] <Laney> dunno sorry
[09:22] <Laney> "Any team member can join this board without being invited" is ticked
[09:23] <willcooke> GNOME work or GNOME software?
[09:24] <willcooke> darkxst, ^
[09:24] <darkxst> willcooke, both
[09:24] <darkxst> but maybe its just a UI fail, says I am admin of the team now?
[09:25] <Laney> maybe you have to add yourself
[09:25] <willcooke> darkxst, reload
[09:25] <willcooke> I've added you again
[09:26] <seb128> darkxst, oh yes you did, http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-desktop/gnome-settings-daemon/ubuntu/revision/491/debian/patches/revert-gsettings-removals.patch
[09:26] <darkxst> willcooke, k thanks that worked
[09:26] <seb128> 26
[09:26] <seb128>
[09:26] <seb128> + <key name="display" type="as">
[09:26] <seb128> 27
[09:26] <seb128>
[09:26] <seb128> + <default>["", "", ""]</default>
[09:26] <Laney> I was sort of hoping that he could have figured it out himself
[09:26] <seb128> 28
[09:26] <seb128>
[09:26] <Laney> so that we don't have to hand hold every time
[09:26] <seb128> + <_summary>Wacom display mapping</_summary>
[09:26] <seb128> 29
[09:26] <seb128>
[09:26] <seb128> + <_description>EDID information of monitor to map tablet to. Must be in the format [vendor, product, serial]. ["","",""] disables mapping.</_description>
[09:26] <seb128> 30
[09:26] <seb128>
[09:26] <seb128> + </key>
[09:26] <seb128> ups, sorry
[09:26] <seb128> launchpad diff copy fail
[09:26] <seb128> darkxst, that commit dropped the "<key name="display" type="as">"
[09:29] <darkxst> seb128, that must have been a bad rebase, diffs of diffs of xml files are a nightmare
[09:29] <Laney> diff the installed files at the end
[09:29] <seb128> darkxst, yeah, it was not meant as a blame, it's easy to make mistakes
[09:29] <seb128> just saying that this key is used by u-s-d and missing
[09:29] <seb128> (thanks e.u.c!)
[09:30] <seb128> darkxst, I'm fixing it
[09:32] <darkxst> seb128, ok thanks
[09:33] <seb128> darkxst, btw should I upload the g-c-c diff from https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/unity-control-center/+bug/1512435 ? the other bits landed, you should be able to move g-c-c to universe with that
[09:33] <seb128> just wanted your ack before uploading
[09:34] <andyrock> morning
[09:35] <seb128> hey andyrock
[09:36] <didrocks> hey andyrock
[09:36] <darkxst> seb128, +1 go ahead
[09:36] <seb128> darkxst, thanks
[09:44] <seb128> great, g-s-d is blocked in proposed because it picked up packagekit 1.0
[09:44] * seb128 deleted that update from proposed now
[09:44] <darkxst> seb128, yes
[09:44] <seb128> the rebuild should not have that issue
[09:55] <Laney> reckon anyone on the mir team is looking at it being blocked in proposed?
[09:58] <seb128> haha
[09:58] <seb128> good one ;-)
[09:58] <larsu> :)
[09:58] <seb128> you are the one who retried the liburcu builds?
[09:58] <Laney> yes
[09:58] <Laney> second time now
[09:58] <Laney> hangs
[09:58] <seb128> k, so you are looking at it ;-)
[09:58] <Laney> no
[09:58] <seb128> that was the blocker no?
[09:59] <seb128> or is it more to it?
[09:59] <Laney> yes
[09:59] <Laney> but I don't really want to fix mir's dependencies
[09:59] <seb128> https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/liburcu/0.9.1-2
[09:59] <didrocks> on day, people will understand why I wanted to link trunk to "package in release pocket" without giving force option to upstream :)
[09:59] <seb128> seems it built now?
[09:59] <Laney> how does it seem that?
[09:59] <Laney> ppc64el is in progress
[10:00] <seb128> didrocks, they did, they removed the force option
[10:00] <larsu> didrocks: one day!
[10:00] <Laney> and seems to be hung
[10:00] <Laney> like it did last time
[10:00] <didrocks> seb128: right, but they still have a copy of trunk
[10:00] <seb128> oh, the error is "old binaries left on amd64: liburcu2 (from 0.8.8-1) "
[10:00] <didrocks> seb128: and work there :p
[10:00] <Laney> that's one of them
[10:00] <Laney> fixed by removing the NBS
[10:00] <Laney> the real one is missing build on ppc64el
[10:00] <seb128> k
[10:00] <seb128> nag kgunn
[10:01] <seb128> maybe step 1 would be fine a bug and assign to the mir team?
[10:01] <Laney> asked in their channel
[10:01] <seb128> didrocks, not really, they removed the "force merge" trigger from landers recently because it was abused
[10:01] <seb128> so they can't merge back to trunk without carring about migration now
[10:01] <didrocks> seb128: unsurprisingly, that's why I didn't give it to upstreams at the time
[10:02] <seb128> :-)
[10:02] <didrocks> seems people needed to readd it without asking why it wasn't there in the first step (and only to landing team)
[10:02] <didrocks> but well, repeating mistakes, that's the rule I guess :)
[10:03] <Laney> will care more once autopkgtest catches up
[10:04] <Laney> I predict that no xenial ppc64el porter machine is going to be a problem
[10:09] <seb128> Laney, that hangs happen on other archs and Debian as well, looks like the current upload was supposed to fix it but failed
[10:09] <seb128> oh well
[10:10] <seb128> I've a feeling the MIR team is not going to fix that but Debian might
[10:10] <Laney> I know
[10:10] <Laney> they might handle it though instead of me/us...
[10:10] <seb128> yeah
[10:10] <seb128> annoying that it blocks GTK
[10:11] <Laney> still other things doing that too
[10:11] <seb128> though according to ricotz the GTK update has a regression
[10:11] <Laney> you know the square round corners bug?
[10:12] <Laney> I notice that that little bit is white now where it was black before
[10:13] <seb128> but it's still solid?
[10:13] <seb128> :-(
[10:13] <Laney> not fixed, don't think it was supposed to be
[10:14] <seb128> right
[10:14] <seb128> likely the workaround from larsu
[10:14] <seb128> which changed the color from black to the window bg color
[10:24] <Trevinho> Some train working today (/me going to Turin for few days)
[10:27] <seb128> Trevinho, so actual train, not the one used to land unity ;-)
[10:27] <seb128> Trevinho, have a good trip!
[10:27] <Trevinho> seb128: yeah, one with wifi :-)
[10:30] <larsu> seb128: indeed
[10:34] <seb128> BAH, g-c-c ftbfs
[10:34] * seb128 flips the desk
[10:34] <seb128> the ldb update makes samba unhappy
[10:36] * larsu slowly turns seb128's desk around and pats him on the back
[10:37] <seb128> thanks
[12:11] <didrocks> seb128: when you are back, do you have a minute to test something on your 32 bits machine with ubuntu make?
[12:12] <didrocks> (I have a test failing on this arch, if you can't, I'll just install a VM)
[13:10] <seb128> didrocks, back
[13:11] <didrocks> seb128: so, basically, the idea is that you install ubuntu-make (to get the deps), then git clone https://github.com/ubuntu/ubuntu-make.git; cd ubuntu-make; bin/umake ide clion
[13:11] <didrocks> once installed, try to run it (and don't touch anything)
[13:12] <didrocks> ps aux | grep clion -> paste the processes
[13:13] <seb128> didrocks, ubuntu-make from standard xenial archive?
[13:13] <didrocks> seb128: yep, this is just to get the deps which hadn't change compared to master
[13:13] <seb128> k
[13:13] <didrocks> thx!
[13:14] <seb128> yw!
[13:19] <Laney> larsu: you use git bzr don't you?
[13:19] <Laney> can I force push with it?
[13:19] * Laney is using it for the first time
[13:20] <Laney> pitti made me rebase/split some commits and I couldn't bear trying to do that with bzr itself :)
[13:21] <seb128> didrocks, it's downloading, keeping you posted in a bit
[13:21] <didrocks> seb128: thanks a lot!
[13:21] <seb128> yw!
[13:22] <didrocks> Laney: from --help: git bzr push --overwrite ?
[13:22] <Laney> --help exists?
[13:22] <didrocks> (yeah, I would have used -f also :p)
[13:22] <Laney> I got Cannot find bazaar remote with name '--help'
[13:22] * Laney fails at this
[13:22] <didrocks> Laney: git help bzr
[13:22] <seb128> what are you trying to do?
[13:23] <didrocks> but git bzr --help
[13:23] <didrocks> works as well here
[13:23] <Laney> doesn't exist
[13:23] <seb128> oh, git bzr integration
[13:23] <Laney> anyway let me try --overwrite
[13:23] <seb128> use pure bzr or git, don't mix :p
[13:23] <Laney> nope
[13:23] <Laney> yeah well, give me a bzr with rebase and commit --amend then :P
[13:23] <didrocks> git-bzr-ng: /usr/share/man/man1/git-bzr.1.gz
[13:24] <didrocks> are you sure you have the same plugin installed? :)
[13:24] <didrocks> (the binary as well is in git-bzr-ng)
[13:24] <Laney> no idea
[13:24] <didrocks> check it's the one you are using (first, that it's intalled)
[13:25] <didrocks> installed*
[13:25] <didrocks> I have 0+git20120823-1
[13:25] <Laney> I have it from some checkout
[13:25] <Laney> github/kfish/git-bzr.git
[13:25] <didrocks> hum
[13:25] <didrocks> use the package man! :)
[13:25] <Laney> I probably tried it
[13:25] <Laney> maybe I should try again
[13:26] <didrocks> yeah… keep me posted
[13:26] <didrocks> help works at least
[13:26] <didrocks> and listing commands as well
[13:26] <Laney> or I just push to a local repo and push from that one to LP :)
[13:28] <Laney> dude
[13:29] <Laney> git-bzr-ng is dead, removed in wily
[13:30] <didrocks> as I apt install it directly I guess, it wasn't autoremoved
[13:30] <larsu> Laney: yes, git bzr push --overwrite
[13:31] <Laney> didrocks: you have vivid enabled or something?
[13:31] <seb128> didrocks, trying to start clion from the dash gives a "Cannot find VM options file." dialog
[13:31] <didrocks> Laney: I'm on wily, I kept it I guess
[13:31] <Laney> rmadison git-bzr-ng is on my side
[13:31] <seb128> didrocks, process is from clion.sh which spawns zenity to display the error
[13:31] <didrocks> seb128: ah, interesting, mind doing a screenshot? Maybe it's 64 bits only
[13:32] <didrocks> Laney: yep, it was removed in wily: (From Debian) RoM; dependency about to be removed, alternative available; Debian bug #742415
[13:32] <Laney> I know, I told you that :P
[13:32] <didrocks> Laney: and as I told you, I should have installed it before it was removed
[13:32] * Laney tries the git-remote-bzr support
[13:32] <seb128> didrocks, then when I close that one I get "32-bit JVM is not supported. Please install 64-bit version."
[13:32] <didrocks> Laney: and as I apt install it directly, autoremove didn't remove it
[13:32] <didrocks> (see above :p)
[13:32] <didrocks> nothing related to some vivid repo added
[13:33] <Laney> I see, I thought you meant you installed it just now
[13:33] <didrocks> seb128: ok, so only 64 bits, that explains why the tests are failing! Many thanks for testing :)
[13:33] <seb128> didrocks, http://people.canonical.com/~seb128/clion.png and http://people.canonical.com/~seb128/clionbis.png
[13:33] <seb128> didrocks, yw
[13:33] <didrocks> Laney: nope, I've (happily) used it in the past
[13:33] <didrocks> seb128: ok, quite clear :)
[13:34] <didrocks> Laney: keep me posted on git-remote-bzr, I'll switch to this if that works well for you
[13:36] <seb128> I missed the start of the discussion when restarting IRC, but what are you guys trying to do?
[13:36] <qengho> good morning
[13:37] <seb128> hey qengho
[13:39] <seb128> is anybody else using xenial and having issues with notify-osd bubbles when wheeling over indicator-sound?
[13:39] <seb128> I just see an underline on the panel
[13:39] <seb128> Treeeviiinhooo
[13:40] <seb128> or in fact might be that xenial indicator-sound landing, more likely even
[13:40] <larsu> seb128: works for me but I haven't updated in a day or so
[13:41] <seb128> that issue is older than a day or so for me
[13:41] <larsu> I'm updating and testing nonetheless
[13:42] <willcooke> seb128, just tried it, I get a very feint purple line near the bottom of the indicator panel
[13:42] <seb128> ah
[13:42] <seb128> same here!
[13:43] <seb128> willcooke, thanks
[13:43] <willcooke> upgrading now
[13:43] <seb128> syslog has those
[13:43] <seb128> ** (notify-osd:5464): WARNING **: bubble_recalc_size(): WARNING, no layout!!!
[13:43] <seb128> ** (notify-osd:5464): WARNING **: WARNING: No layout defined!!!
[13:43] <Laney> !!!
[13:43] <larsu> seb128: YOU HAVE NO LAYOUT!!!
[13:44] <seb128> seems I don't :-/
[13:44] <larsu> ;)
[13:44] <seb128> weird it's not consistant between installs though
[13:44] <seb128> Laney, having it or not?
[13:45] <Laney> dunno, seems you already got people to try, not much point in everyone doing so
[13:45] <Laney> not sure I am super current etc
[13:45] <Laney> and fighting with git and bzr :P
[13:46] <seb128> Laney, k, we have 3 people and a 1 - 2, and it's a scroll event away, I though one more would give cheap extra data
[13:46] <seb128> but no big deal
[13:46] <Laney> give me a few minutes then
[13:46] <seb128> I'm going to try downgrading things
[13:47] <pitti> Laney: s/made/kindly asked/ :-) -- but I thought about bzr uncommit, shelving the others, bzr commit, and then unshelve/commit the rest, or just ignore me
[13:47] <Laney> pitti: hehe
[13:47] <pitti> indeed it's fugly with bzr
[13:47] <Laney> I have the right thing in git now
[13:48] <Laney> just got to ship it over somehow
[13:48] * Laney is bashing it with a floppy hammer that doesn't work quite right
[13:48] <Laney> KeyErrors, fast-export dying, all this stuff
[14:00] <dupingping> hi everyone.
[14:00] <dupingping> nice to meet you.
[14:01] <dupingping> how can i upload a patch for gvfs?
[14:15] <seb128> dupingping, hey, depending what you are trying to do? upstream is GNOME, if it's an Ubuntu specific change/packaging/backport on launchpad
[14:15] <Laney> ah I got it to push
[14:15] <Laney> it's messed up lp's diff though
[14:40] <Laney> pitti: there it is to re-review when you've got time
[14:40] <pitti> Laney: cheers!
[14:40] <Laney> didrocks: this seems to work pretty well, supports --force too
[14:47] * Laney lunch
[14:53] <didrocks> Laney: enjoy!
[15:06] <seb128> larsu, it seems that indicator-sound changed the format of what it sends to unity7 with https://code.launchpad.net/~xavi-garcia-mena/indicator-sound/bluetooth-icons-bug-1415480/+merge/272735 and that notify-osd doesn't like it, I pinged Xavi
[15:06] <seb128> unsure if notify-osd should deal better with input it doesn't like though
[15:07] <larsu> seb128: ah I updated and rebooted but forgot to test! I see the same bug
[15:07] <larsu> seb128: we should revert
[15:09] <larsu> wait. notify osd doesn't care about the indicator sound bus messages
[15:09] <seb128> downgrading the indicator fixes it though
[15:09] <seb128> so it's something in that changeset
[15:10] <larsu> right
[15:14] <larsu> seb128: got it. It sends a title for the notification now, which throws off notify osd
[15:14] <larsu> "Speakers"
[15:14] <seb128> do you consider that a notify-osd issue?
[15:14] <larsu> dunno really
[15:15] <larsu> it doesn't know what to do when it gets a title and a hint "make a volume bar"
[15:15] <larsu> i.e., it would simply ignore the title
[15:15] <larsu> and I guess this is specified somewhere (lol)
[15:16] <larsu> oh sorry, this is about message body, not title
[15:16] <larsu> it already ignores the title
[15:17] <larsu> indicator-sound now gives a notification with title "Volume" and body "Speakers"
[15:20] <larsu> is the sound notification on the phone showing this string?
[15:20] <xavigarcia> yes, it is
[15:20] <larsu> apparently it's to distinguish between speakers, headphones, etc
[15:20] <xavigarcia> exactly
[15:20] <seb128> larsu, right, I think the intend is to tell if that's your bluetooth headset or the speaking which is changing
[15:20] <xavigarcia> I added the change as it was requested for the phone
[15:21] <xavigarcia> larsu: so that would be the only change...
[15:21] <larsu> xavigarcia: there's quite some whitespace issues in that patch btw
[15:21] <larsu> I can make notify-osd ignore this
[15:21] <xavigarcia> larsu: in fact that string was added in a previous branch, but now it is shown all the time... that's the difference
[15:21] <larsu> but I guess we should also show it on the desktop?
[15:22] <larsu> xavigarcia: when was it not shown before? In the "Speakers" case?
[15:22] <xavigarcia> I'm not sure about that, to be honest
[15:22] <larsu> if so, I guess that's why noone noticed...
[15:23] <xavigarcia> larsu: it was used to show the "Warning high volume can damage your hearing" string
[15:23] <larsu> ah, even less likely to get noticed on desktop
[15:23] <xavigarcia> larsu: but that warning is only used on the phone
[15:24] <xavigarcia> larsu: yep
[15:24] <xavigarcia> larsu: I'm normally testing the sound indicator changes on the desktop... but... I'm never using the wheel to change the volume, so I didn't notice it
[15:25] <larsu> xavigarcia: only very few people do, but they are very important to us ;)
[15:25] <xavigarcia> larsu: sure
[15:25] <xavigarcia> larsu: so do you reckon you can fix it? or do we need extra work in the indicator
[15:25] <xavigarcia> ?
[15:25] <larsu> xavigarcia: already did ;)
[15:26] <xavigarcia> larsu: cool!
[15:26] <larsu> hm is my icon branch still outstanding? I'm seeing the old icon here
[15:26] <larsu> inded
[15:29] <seb128> larsu, which one?
[15:29] <seb128> larsu, https://code.launchpad.net/~larsu/notify-osd/spam-a-bit-less/+merge/274382 you mean?
[15:30] <larsu> yep
[15:30] <seb128> I just pressed published on that
[15:30] <larsu> :)
[15:30] <seb128> tested it while I was testing the notifications with old/new indicator
[15:36] <larsu> seb128: review appreciated ;) https://code.launchpad.net/~larsu/notify-osd/ignore-body-for-sync-bubbles/+merge/277855
[15:36] <larsu> one line!
[15:36] * larsu hopes that doesn't brean anything else
[15:36] <larsu> but it seems to work fine for me so far
[15:36] <larsu> brb
[15:38] <seb128> larsu, looking
[15:48] <didrocks> started early, no break, time to sign off I guess :)
[15:48] <didrocks> see you tomorrow guys!
[15:48] <seb128> didrocks, enjoy!
[16:11] <hallyn> every few minutes unity is un-setting my caps-lock-as-control set through xmodmap. is there a "proper" way left to set such a keymap? (the keyboard control widget lost that setting months or years ago)
[16:12] <hallyn> unity-tweak-tool has nothing,
[16:14] <hallyn> used to only unset it on package upgrades...
[16:33] <seb128> hallyn, no idea why/what would do that...
[16:35] <hallyn> a new daemon that enforces uniformity among desktops? :-) gnome-tweak-tool had a caps-lock-as-contorl setting, i'll see if that keeps it from happening
[16:35] <hallyn> on the bright side, got unity to start for first time in months :)
[16:37] <seb128> how did you fix it?
[17:03] <Laney> oh I forgot, local mirror is synced again
[17:03] <Laney> reason it was so slow last time was that the hard drive was dying
[17:06] <attente> for lintian error "unstripped-binary-or-object" am i supposed to call strip in a preinst script?
[17:07] <attente> or do i need a custom dh_strip target in debian/rules?
[17:08] <attente> i'm also getting 'W: maliit-framework-dbg: empty-binary-package' even though 'DEB_DH_STRIP_ARGS := --dbg-package=maliit-framework-dbg' is in debian/rules
[17:19] <Laney> attente: post the package somewhere?
[17:23] <attente> Laney: https://code.launchpad.net/~attente/maliit/maliit-glib
[17:23] <attente> err..
[17:23] <attente> wait
[17:39] <attente> Laney: can you please try it now?
[17:45] <Laney> ok
[17:47] <attente> Laney: er, never mind
[17:48] <attente> Laney: i set my sbuild to not strip symbols
[17:49] <attente> although i'm still getting 'postinst-must-call-ldconfig' despite having 'activate-noawait ldconfig' in the triggers
[17:51] <Laney> probably fixed by the lintian I just uploaded
[17:51] <Laney> you definitely don't need to add those triggers yourself
[17:51] <Laney> dh_makeshlibs does this
[17:52] <attente> thanks!
[17:53] <Laney> although that's in depwait
[17:53] <Laney> WAH
[17:57] <Laney> seb128 / infinity: You fancy promoting libfuture-perl libstruct-dumb-perl libio-async-perl?
[17:58] <Laney> IIRC perl packages usually just get done without MIR
[18:05] <Laney> alright, well, hope you feel able to do that. :P
[18:05] <Laney> night!
[18:05] <willcooke> cya Laney
[18:05] * willcooke quits too
[18:05] <willcooke> g'night all;
[21:28] <mterry> kenvandine, poke on deja-dup :)
[21:29] <mterry> kenvandine, this is a pass-through poke from barry
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2015-11-18-#xubuntu-devel
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[01:12] <bluesabre> evening folks
[03:16] <Unit193> bluesabre: Hi.
[11:06] <bluesabre> Unit193: hi.
[12:32] <slickymasterWork> flocculant, claimed review of https://code.launchpad.net/~flocculant/xubuntu-docs/qa/+merge/277590
[12:32] <slickymasterWork> I'll take a look at it tonight
[12:33] <slickymasterWork> after the community work :P
[12:34] <flocculant> ok - cya later
[12:35] <slickymasterWork> hf flocculant
[12:48] <knome> i left a "few" comments there...
[12:48] <knome> some of them you can ignore now - there is commentary on the direction we might want to the take the whole contributor docs
[12:49] <knome> bbl
[12:53] <slickymasterWork> ack knome
[14:55] <krytarik> knome: "i left a 'few' comments there..." - looks like LP ignored them as well. :P
[14:55] <knome> oh
[14:55] <knome> right
[14:55] <knome> i should have hit save
[14:55] <knome> SIGH
[14:55] <krytarik> lol
[14:55] <knome> i always forget that
[14:56] <knome> oh
[14:56] <knome> there they are
[14:56] <knome> \o/
[14:56] * knome goes hit save
[14:56] <krytarik> \o/
[14:56] <knome> done
[15:12] <knome> flocculant, the www. logging issue should be solved now
[15:52] <flocculant> I left some replies to some comments
[15:52] <flocculant> knome: ack
[15:53] <knome> flocculant, you didn't
[15:53] <knome> flocculant, hit save
[15:53] <flocculant> hah
[15:54] <knome> flocculant, re: linking; i mean do we want to keep making xref's to the spots that talk about ISO/package testing when we write about the
[15:55] <knome> flocculant, and re: xfef markup, np; i know it's not mentioned anywhere (yet)
[15:55] <knome> and re: the last comment, yes, let's see how it goes
[15:55] <flocculant> knome: that's why I'm confused - there is no link to that?
[15:56] <knome> huh, now you lost me; re what was that? :D
[15:56] <flocculant> Meta: Do we want to keep linking to the package and ISO testing sections?
[15:56] <flocculant> that :)
[15:56] <knome> ah
[15:57] <knome> context:
Scheduling of ISO, and when appropriate Package, Testing should take place amongst the QA Team.
[15:57] <knome> question: do we want to do:
Scheduling of <xref linkend="..." />, and when appropriate Package, Testing should take place amongst the QA Team.
[15:58] <flocculant> no
[15:58] <knome> probably not here, but it was a more meta question for general use
[15:58] <knome> eg. should we try to interlink as much as possible
[15:58] <flocculant> imho these are cont docs not support - I would expect that someone contributing should be able to do so with the minimum of handholding
[15:58] <knome> :)
[15:59] <knome> it's not only handholding, in some places it's useful that you have the link to the target right there
[15:59] <knome> at least imo
[15:59] <flocculant> I'm +1 to linking to things once
[15:59] <knome> yep
[16:00] <flocculant> but as testing is the subject of a chapter I'm pretty relaxed it's not linked there
[16:00] <knome> mhm
[16:00] <flocculant> oh
[16:01] <flocculant> mmm
[16:01] <flocculant> no it's not :D
[16:02] <flocculant> ok - I'll get links added
[16:02] <knome> :D
[16:02] <knome> there's one problem with that
[16:02] <knome> you can't affect the link text
[16:02] <knome> so in some cases, you might just want to add a <note> for the xref's
[16:03] <knome> but it really depends on the context
[16:03] <flocculant> I might add a note to the top for the places QA needs to know about
[16:03] <knome> yep
[16:03] <knome> or maybe a section that lists them all
[16:03] <knome> and a note that links to that
[16:03] <flocculant> text full of links drives me nuts
[16:03] <knome> to save space
[16:03] <knome> and effort...
[16:07] <flocculant> knome: maybe that section should be elsewhere - Important Places or in the How to's
[16:09] <flocculant> just not call it How to's
[16:10] <knome> yes, maybe so
[16:10] <flocculant> there's going to be other similar things come up in future I would guess
[16:17] <flocculant> knome: I'll fix those things now - I'll add a section for links to one of mine for the moment, we can move it later when we decide one way or the other
[16:21] <knome> cheers
[16:43] <flocculant> knome: done that for the moment then
[16:43] <flocculant> and the odd fixes
[17:31] <krytarik> knome: Btw, as much as I like having to work on my docs MP, but... :P - http://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2015/11/13/%23xubuntu-devel.html#t14:52
[17:31] <krytarik> + not
[17:32] <krytarik> (Particularly the first question.)
[17:36] <knome> probably
[17:36] <knome> i'll get back to this later today
[17:36] <knome> actually, i think i have 8 minutes now
[17:36] <knome> :P
[17:36] <knome> let's see...
[17:37] <knome> actually, meh
[17:37] <knome> there is no button for one-time export :(
[17:38] <knome> i'll just set up the auto export
[17:38] <knome> and let it run once
[17:38] <knome> ok?
[17:38] <knome> done
[17:38] <knome> should happen some time soon
[17:38] <knome> like, midnight UTC
[17:41] <krytarik> Nah, like 6 AM UTC, but that's ok. :)
[17:42] <krytarik> Thought there was though.
[17:42] <knome> i thought too
[17:42] <knome> there's that button for one-time imports
[17:44] <krytarik> Eww, nope indeed - only "or requesting a one-off download through the web interface" - https://help.launchpad.net/Translations/YourProject/Exports
[17:44] <knome> yep
[17:44] <knome> that wouldn't be completely awful either, but meh, why detour
[17:45] <krytarik> Yeah, no problem.
[17:46] <krytarik> Also, flocculant's current MP should be merged by then too.
[17:46] <knome> i can probably take care of that if slickymasterWork fails to do that :P
[17:48] <knome> now... bbl
[17:48] <knome> hf meanwhile
[22:13] <slickymaster> knome, to what are you referring in "Do we want to keep linking to the package and ISO testing sections?"?
[22:13] <knome> slickymaster, <xref ... />
[22:14] <slickymaster> oh, ok
[22:14] <slickymaster> I don't see any reason why he wouldn't, knome
[22:14] <slickymaster> I mean, it's just a link, nothing more
[22:15] <knome> if you read the discussion in the backlog, you would notice he added the links now
[22:15] <knome> aiui, haven't checked the new MP
[22:15] <knome> or updated
[22:15] <slickymaster> 7me hasn't read the backlog
[22:16] <knome> sigh :)
[22:17] <slickymaster> going to answer to your comment in the MP, knome
[22:17] <slickymaster> even because I won't merge it today
[22:18] <knome> krytarik, SEE?!
[22:18] <slickymaster> he also forgot to add that dot at the end of the paragraph
[22:18] <krytarik> knome: Heh.
[22:18] <slickymaster> what?????
[22:18] <knome> nothing.
[22:18] <krytarik> lol
[22:18] <slickymaster> is there a poll running?
[22:19] <slickymaster> what were the odds against merging it?
[22:19] <knome> no poll, it was pure knowledge
[22:19] <knome> that you would fail to merge it today
[22:19] <slickymaster> it's not my fault
[22:20] <knome> of *course* not :)
[22:20] <knome> besides, we didn't bet for the reason
[22:20] <slickymaster> the MP isn't ready for merge
[22:20] <knome> well... you can merge it as is
[22:20] <knome> :P
[22:20] <knome> or fix it while merging
[22:21] <slickymaster> most probably the later option
[23:18] <slickymaster> flocculant, knome, I left some comments the MP
[23:19] <knome> again? :P
[23:19] <knome> slickymaster, did you click save?
[23:19] <slickymaster> what again?
[23:19] <knome> oh, for some reason they were hidden
[23:19] <slickymaster> I hit CTRL+Enter
[23:20] <slickymaster> in all cases it's mergerd
[23:20] <slickymaster> -r
[23:20] <knome> er mi gerd
[23:20] <knome> :P
[23:20] <slickymaster> :P
[23:22] <knome> oh great
[23:22] <knome> i just noticed there was a gig yesterday i would have wanted to attend
[23:22] <knome> sigh
[23:22] <slickymaster> -devel alert
[23:22] <knome> oh
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2015-11-18-#ubuntu-nl
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[14:59] <Ubuntu-robin> Goeiemiddag, toevallig mensen die Kodibuntu gebruiken ?
[22:56] <OerHeks> sudo add-apt-repository ppa:sjoemelsoftware/ppa && sudo apt update & sudo ppa-purge ppa:sjoemelsoftware/ppa
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2024-05-13T22:11:19.080863
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"channel": "#ubuntu-nl"
}
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2015-11-18-#ubuntu-us-mi
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[19:31] <jcastro> n0p: around?
[19:32] <n0p> yo
[19:32] <n0p> my email alert system still works \o/
[19:33] <n0p> by the way: http://www.meetup.com/ann-arbor-php/events/226822626/
[19:33] <n0p> jcastro: yo
[19:34] <cmaloney> Too slow
[19:34] <cmaloney> he's moved on to something else.
[19:35] <cmaloney> probably telling someone how awesome Death Magnetic is or something. ;)
[19:35] <n0p> i was just listening to that :boom:
[19:36] <cmaloney> At least someone is.
[19:37] <cmaloney> Currently Playing: Skeletonwitch - Crushed Beyond Dust
[19:41] <jcastro> n0p: are you going to that meetup?
[19:41] <jcastro> n0p: I need to ask you some PHP things, mind a call today?
[19:43] <n0p> jcastro: yes going to the meetup, sure on the call, but not right now, going into a pair ops session to setup an ELK stack :-), how about after 4:30 ish
[19:43] <jcastro> sure
[19:43] <jcastro> you got my number? You can just call me whenevs
[19:44] <n0p> ok
[19:44] <n0p> @hubot: remind me to call jcastro at 16:45
[19:44] <n0p> ...
[19:44] <jcastro> hah I know right
[19:45] <jcastro> do you work @ nutshell?
[19:45] <jcastro> looking at the site I think this is what you were working on before?
[19:45] <jcastro> man dude I just realized we haven't hung out in like 2 years
[19:48] <jcastro> https://www.nutshell.com/jobs/
[19:48] <jcastro> aha!
[19:51] <n0p> yeah, nutshell, been here since jan 2011 :success:
[19:52] <jcastro> I want to know how your ELK thing goes too
[19:52] <greg-g> I want an elk burger now
[19:54] <n0p> speaking of /jobs, we need peeps if anyone is interested, it's a great place
[20:05] <cscheib> n0p: what're you doing with ELK?
[20:06] <cscheib> I'm (re)building my ELK environment in vagrant/puppet right now.
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2015-11-18-#ubuntu-pt
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[22:14] <astroo-> ola pessoal
[22:34] <Leonardo_> boa noite
[22:34] <Leonardo_> alguem ai sabe instalar os drivers amd
[22:36] <astroo-> ola
[22:36] <astroo-> o canal e super calado
[22:36] <astroo-> vai ao #ubuntu-br
[22:46] <Leonardo_> eh bem mais calado
[22:46] <Leonardo_> nao tem ninguem online
[22:47] <astroo-> #ubuntu-br poe sempre a duvida e da uns 15m
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"Leonardo_",
"astroo-"
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2015-11-18-#ubuntu-ie
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[08:42] <_Ridgewing> Funnies: http://i100.independent.co.uk/article/irish-dad-accidentally-films-himself-in-selfie-mode-during-entire-las-vegas-trip--W1tb4cvLtx
[08:43] <zergless> I see this
[08:43] <zergless> was so funny
[09:13] <czajkowski> morning
[09:13] <zergless> o/
[09:48] <czajkowski> zergless: can you remind the RB people about http://www.meetup.com/Couchbase-Dublin/events/226230617/
[09:48] <czajkowski> there will be soft drinks/beer and pizza at it also and
[09:49] <zergless> I can surely!
[10:10] <czajkowski> cheers
[10:10] <zergless> did you get much work done after you went back to smithfield?
[10:15] <czajkowski> yup
[10:15] <czajkowski> had a call at 11
[10:15] <zergless> 11? that seems awfully late
[10:17] <czajkowski> not every week but some weeks i have late calls
[10:17] <czajkowski> not working friday
[18:24] <_GetLucky> #Partridge http://www.partridgegetslucky.com/
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"_GetLucky",
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2015-11-28-#ubuntu-us-or
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[19:01] <wxl> congrats, sgclark, for your election to the community council!
[19:18] <sgclark> wxl: thanks :)
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ubuntu-chat
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"sgclark",
"wxl"
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2015-11-28-#ubuntu-se
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[11:46] <marsupapu> Gomorra!
[16:06] <Hund> Morsning
[16:10] <x86_64> Evening
[17:21] <Hund> :9
[17:23] <x86_64> :6
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2015-11-28-#ubuntu-us-ca
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[22:45] <nhaines> pleia2: thanks for the retweets! <3
[22:47] <nhaines> By way of a appreciation, have some cats: http://gfycat.com/FarVengefulHawk https://i.imgur.com/I7jd1MQ.jpg
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2015-11-28-#ubuntu-ru
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[08:56] <andrex> эх, посмотрел 16.4 гном, 3.20 сломали nm(
[11:14] <pr0mode> дня
[12:05] <ForumLiker> Привет ребята
[12:05] <ForumLiker> Как здесь активность?
[12:07] <Leagnus> сексуальная - выше нормы
[12:14] <ForumLiker> А нормы кто устанавливал?
[12:51] <Leagnus> тёмная сторона силы
[12:56] <ForumLiker> так я тоже выбрал темную сторону
[12:56] <Leagnus> она сексуальнее?
[12:57] <ForumLiker> нет, но красный цвет полосы загрузки на ютубе мне больше нравится
[14:08] <llorephie> >_>
[14:08] <llorephie> Каааакой красный цвет? Каааакая тёмная сторона?
[14:08] <llorephie> Опять слоупочу
[14:20] <ForumLiker> https://www.google.com/starwars/
[14:43] <andrex> ой все
[20:44] <Sergey_IT> вечера
[22:00] <pr0mode> ночи
[22:02] <Sergey_IT> звездочек
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2015-11-28-#launchpad-dev
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[04:39] <samsruti> Hi everyone :)
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ubuntu-chat
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2015-11-28-#ubuntu-it
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[00:00] <Barrnet> considera che in / verranno ospitate tutte le cartelle che non sono /home
[00:00] <Barrnet> compreso /var, che di default ospita pure i siti di apache
[00:00] <Barrnet> se non hai particolari esigenze puoi sempre tenere tutto unito
[00:01] <Barrnet> solitamente si separa la /home per mantenerla integra in caso si reinstalli su una altra distro
[00:01] <Barrnet> devi considerare, nel caso il server salvi ed usi solo applicativi in /home, di lasciare eventuale spazio anche per applicare aggiornamenti o scaricare kernel
[00:07] <plm_> mmh, per l'uso di documenti ecc userò il desktop, più che il server. quindi forse mi conviene tenere indiviso così da massimizzare lo spazio del server (siti, gestore posta, cloud, ecc.) giusto?
[00:11] <Barrnet> yep
[07:47] <plm> sto installando ubuntu server (14.04.03) devo configurare il raid1 per cui dopo aver rilevato i dischi, faccio fare la partizione guidata su disco intero e seleziono l'opzione per configurare per il raid. a questo punto mi chiede quanti dispositivi attivi e quanti di riserva (rispondo 2 e 0), poi mi chiede di indicare le partizioni dei device attivi (esattamente due partizioni) però
[07:47] <plm> 1. tutte le partizioni indicate si riferiscono solo ad un solo disco.
[07:48] <plm> 2. le partizioni indicate sono: 1. spazio libero; 2. biosgrub; 3. swap, 4. ext4, 5. spazio libero. Per esclusione andrei ad ad indicare i numeri 3 e 4.
[08:49] <Carlin0> wow
[09:56] <mikimikemike> Buongiorno a tutti. Ho UBUNTU LTS su una macchina virtuale. Da windows vedo un HardDisk collegato in rete al mio router
[09:56] <mikimikemike> ma da ubuntu non lo vedo (scusate interruzione)
[09:57] <Carlin0> mikimikemike, e la macchina virtuale su che os gira ?
[09:58] <mikimikemike> mi gira su windows
[09:59] <Carlin0> quindi dalla macchina virtuale potrai vedere al massimo una cartella condivisa di win
[10:00] <mikimikemike> ho aggiunto nelle cartelle condivise questo HD
[10:01] <mikimikemike> ma dove vedo queste cartelle condivise in Ubuntu?
[10:03] <Carlin0> mikimikemike, http://wiki.ubuntu-it.org/Virtualizzazione/VirtualBox
[10:06] <mikimikemike> o signur ... non ci capisco nulla :( ... dove vedo una cartella condivisa con la macchina virtuale. Le vedo in Windows le cartelle ma non so dove sono in Ubuntu
[10:08] <cristian_c> mikimikemike: che pagina del wiki hai aperto?
[10:09] <Carlin0> Configurare il sistema guest
[10:09] <Carlin0> Ubuntu e derivate
[10:09] <Carlin0> Creare una nuova cartella che in seguito verrà condivisa;
[10:09] <Carlin0> certo che se non leggi mikimikemike
[10:10] <mikimikemike> http://wiki.ubuntu-it.org/Virtualizzazione/VirtualBox/Configurazione#Abilitare_la_condivisione_di_file_e_cartelle
[10:15] <cristian_c> mikimikemike: magari spiega esattamente tutto ciò che hai fatto
[10:16] <mikimikemike> Sono a "Creazione di una cartella condivisa". Ho creato la mia cartella MM che si trova in C:\Users\Michele\Documenti\MM
[10:17] <cristian_c> mikimikemike: hai installato le guest addition?
[10:22] <mikimikemike> mi hanno installato Ubuntu ... non riesco a capirlo
[10:24] <cristian_c> mikimikemike: e allora non hai seguito le istruzioni che ti sono state date
[10:24] <cristian_c> mikimikemike: chi te l'ha installato... a tradimento?
[10:24] <mikimikemike> non so come scrivere questo:
[10:24] <mikimikemike> sudo mount -t vboxsf CARTELLA_HOST /PERCORSO/CARTELLA/GUEST
[10:25] <cristian_c> mikimikemike: ma non hai risposto alle domande
[10:25] <mikimikemike> del punto: Configurare il sistema guest
[10:31] <ExPBoy> lol
[10:32] <ExPBoy> poi che ubuntu hai?
[10:32] <cristian_c> ExPBoy: sicuro che ti risponda?
[10:32] <ExPBoy> no
[10:32] <ExPBoy> ma ci provo
[10:35] <ExPBoy> ok tempo perso
[10:35] <mikimikemike> Quando provo da Aggiornamenti Software a instalare i Driver AGgiuntivi leggo: Il sistema non funziona.
[10:36] <cristian_c> mikimikemike: scusa, ma che c'entra?
[10:37] <cristian_c> ma sei in grado di rispondere ad almeno una delle varie domande fino ad ora poste?
[10:37] <ExPBoy> mikimikemike, sicuro che non stai prendendo in giro?
[10:37] <cristian_c> ExPBoy: eh, ma se prende in giro, mica te lo dice :P
[10:37] <ExPBoy> a no?
[10:38] <kagakazov> ragazzi la tragedia è avvenuta!!! Ho aggiornato il sistema a ubuntu 15.10 e cominciano a sorgere i primi problemi, calibre non si avvia, ecco il messaggio http://paste.ubuntu.com/13540871/
[10:38] <kagakazov> credo sia collegato all'icona della systray
[10:38] <cristian_c> kagakazov: unity o kde?
[10:38] <ExPBoy> seee
[10:38] <kagakazov> mate
[10:38] <mikimikemike> per installare i Guest Addition
[10:39] <cristian_c> kagakazov: sudo apt-get update | pastebinit
[10:39] <cristian_c> mikimikemike: ok
[10:39] <mikimikemike> http://wiki.ubuntu-it.org/Hardware/AbilitareDriverProprietari
[10:39] <ExPBoy> uhm
[10:39] <cristian_c> mikimikemike: ma se hai visto, c'è anche un altro metodo per installarle
[10:40] <kagakazov> cristian_c: il terminale in seguito al comando sembra si sia imballato
[10:40] <cristian_c> mikimikemike: 14.04.3?
[10:40] <kagakazov> o meglio impallato
[10:40] <mikimikemike> io non ho nessuna immagine
[10:41] <cristian_c> kagakazov: lascialo lavorare
[10:41] <mikimikemike> Ubuntu LTS
[10:41] <ExPBoy> si ma che versione?
[10:41] <ExPBoy> è come dire ho l'auto fiat
[10:41] <kagakazov> che magia cristian_c
[10:42] <kagakazov> quindi automaticamente ha incollato sul server paste.ubuntu
[10:42] <kagakazov> o mi sbaglio???
[10:42] <cristian_c> mikimikemike: prima di tutto, spiega quale problema hai con Driver aggiuntivi
[10:42] <ExPBoy> ti sbagli
[10:42] <kagakazov> http://paste.ubuntu.com/13540889/ cristian_c
[10:42] <ExPBoy> ti ha dato un link da mettere qui :)
[10:42] <ExPBoy> ecco
[10:42] <cristian_c> mikimikemike: puoi dare informazioni precise? Digita: cat /etc/issue
[10:42] <kagakazov> esattamente ExPBoy
[10:43] <cristian_c> kagakazov: sì
[10:43] <cristian_c> mikimikemike: secondo: hai letto le istruzioni per quanto riguarda il secondo metodo?
[10:43] <mikimikemike> 14.04.2 Lts
[10:44] <cristian_c> mikimikemike: non hai fatto gli aggiornamenti di sistema?
[10:44] <mikimikemike> no
[10:44] <cristian_c> mikimikemike: come mai?
[10:44] <mikimikemike> aggiorno e riprovo. A dopo. Grazie della pazienza :)
[10:45] <cristian_c> !calibre
[10:45] <cristian_c> uhmmm, ufff
[10:46] <ExPBoy> sciopero
[10:47] <cristian_c> NameExistsException: Bus name already exists: org.kde.StatusNotifierItem-8613-1
[10:47] <kagakazov> cristian_c: con !calibre ti riferisci a me??
[10:52] <cristian_c> kagakazov: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/calibre/+bug/1510352
[10:53] <cristian_c> Calibre Fails to Launch After Upgrade to Wily
[11:06] <arnaldo_> salve qualcuno sa se mi funziona il mionotebook dopo fatto aggiornamento da lubuntu 14.04 lts no pae a 13.03 ?
[11:07] <akis24> arnaldo_: vai all'indietro ? da lubuntu 14.04 lts no pae a 13.03 ? io riavvierei comunque il pc eh ..
[11:08] <arnaldo_> akis24, scusa è vero volevo dire dalla 12.04 no pae alla 13.03
[11:08] <arnaldo_> akis24, non ho ancora fatto l'aggiornamento
[11:09] <kagakazov> cercherò di ovviare evitando di installare l'icona della systray, tanto comoda per me!!!!!!
[11:10] <akis24> arnaldo_: a dire il vero al limite dovresti passare dalla 12.04 alla 14.04.3 ossia due versioni LTS l'altra nno è piu' supportata da un bel pezzo
[11:11] <akis24> arnaldo_: è il gestore degl iaggiornamenti dovrebbe segnalartelo .. comunque a priori non è possibile sapere dipende da tante cose " esempio presenza di ppa non ufficiali ecc "
[11:11] <arnaldo_> akis24, ci avevo pensato ma non essendo molto pratico ed essendo questo cadavere di notebook un no pae, mi chiedeo se fatto upgrade mi funzionasse ancora
[11:12] <akis24> arnaldo_: al momento ti consiglio di restare alla 12.04 credo avresti problemi vista l'eta' del pc
[11:12] <akis24> arnaldo_: fino al 2017 mi sembra sia supportata se non erro
[11:13] <arnaldo_> akis24, grazie visto che mi funziona bene con nemmeno 1 gb di ram e 20 gb di hd. Credo che rimarrò cosi. Grazie per il consiglio
[11:13] <akis24> arnaldo_: di nulla
[12:28] <squikko> buongiorno. ho appenaacquistato un hd esterno ma collegandolo non lo vedo. come si fa a montarlo. ( l'hd è nuovo appena tolto dall'imballo). Grazie
[12:29] <krabador> squikko, sudo apt-get install pastebinit
[12:29] <krabador> squikko, al che lo attacchi
[12:29] <krabador> sudo fdisk -l | pastebinit
[12:30] <krabador> incolla qui il link prodotto
[12:32] <squikko> mi scrive questo : Il disco /dev/sdc non contiene una tabella delle partizioni valida
[12:32] <squikko> http://paste.ubuntu.com/13541670/
[12:32] <Carlin0> squikko, è un tera ?
[12:32] <squikko> si
[12:33] <Carlin0> non lo vedi perchè non ha ancora partizioni
[12:34] <squikko> ok
[12:34] <squikko> quindi come faccio?
[12:35] <Carlin0> apri gparted scegli il disco sdc e gliele crei
[12:36] <krabador> se esterno , dovrebbe essere già formattato
[12:37] <Carlin0> eh krabador ma dal paste sembra di no
[12:37] <krabador> eh
[12:37] <krabador> se no, fa 'a partizion'
[12:38] <Carlin0> squikko, devi usarlo solo con linux o anche con win ?
[12:38] <squikko> allora diciamo che il box ce lo avevo e ho comprato un hd e l'ho messo
[12:38] <krabador> ecco
[12:38] <squikko> con entrambi
[12:38] <krabador> una coas
[12:38] <krabador> cosa
[12:38] <krabador> che va precisata
[12:38] <Carlin0> squikko, allora formatta NTFS
[12:38] <krabador> piuttosto di " ho appenaacquistato un hd esterno"
[12:39] <squikko> eh lo so raga ma per me ntfs è una parolaccia..non s se mi spiego (non so manco che vor dì!)
[12:39] <squikko> ok quindi formatta ntfs
[12:40] <squikko> come si fa? :-)
[12:40] <ExPBoy> :(
[12:40] <Carlin0> [13:35:50] <Carlin0> apri gparted scegli il disco sdc e gliele crei
[12:43] <squikko> ok sto istallandi gparted
[12:43] <squikko> istallando sorry
[12:43] <Carlin0> mi raccomando ... il disco sdc
[12:44] <Carlin0> l'unico che vedrai senza partizioni
[12:46] <squikko> ok mi chiede "selezionare il nuovo tipo di tabella" e mi seleziona in automatico "msdos". Vado o devo inserire qualcos'altro?
[12:56] <squikko> scusate la tabella è msdos?
[13:03] <Carlin0> squikko, si
[13:03] <Carlin0> e dopo crei una partizione NTFS
[13:03] <squikko> ok mi ero buttato e ho fatto
[13:04] <squikko> grazie Carlin0
[13:04] <squikko> ora mi funzia pure se lo attacco a windows giusto?
[13:04] <Carlin0> ora collegandolo dovrebbe montarlo automaticamente
[13:04] <Carlin0> sei hai fatto ntfs si
[13:05] <Carlin0> se hai usato altri filesystem no
[13:06] <squikko> ok perfetto
[13:06] <squikko> grazie di nuovo e ciao
[13:06] <Carlin0> di nulla , ciao
[13:32] <Mmrll> salve, ogni tanto mi si apre una finestra con scritto: warning: Unresposive script, che mi blocca molto la velocità di navigazione. Poi mi dà la scielta tra il tasto stop script, continuo oppure aprire lo script nel debug.Come posso risolvere questo problema? Grazie.
[13:33] <krabador> con quale browser
[13:33] <krabador> in quale sistema
[13:33] <krabador> con quale pc
[13:33] <krabador> !dettagli | Mmrll
[13:36] <Mmrll> browser: Firefox, sistema Lubuntu 15 il pc è un Compaq Evo
[13:37] <krabador> Mmrll, processore , scheda video, quantitativo di ram
[13:37] <krabador> il modello del pc non significa molto
[13:37] <krabador> lubuntu 15.04 o 15.10 ?
[13:37] <Mmrll> lubuntu 15.04
[13:38] <Mmrll> krabador, c'è un modo veloce per trovare i dati: processore, scheda video, quantitativo di ram? così li scrivo.
[13:39] <krabador> Mmrll, si, sudo apt-get install pastebinit
[13:39] <krabador> Mmrll, sudo lshw | pastebinit
[13:39] <krabador> ed incolli qui il link prodotto da quest'ultimo
[13:42] <Mmrll> http://paste.ubuntu.com/13542321/
[13:45] <YouNeverKnow> Mmrll, pentium 4 con 512 ram ed una radeon 9200, per uso odierno iniziano ad essere poco , anche per lubuntu
[13:45] <krabador> Mmrll, apri firefox, apri la finestra componenti aggiuntivi ,fa uno screenshot
[13:45] <Mmrll> ok
[13:46] <AleC> Buongiorno a tutti...da quanto ho ubuntu noto che la ventola del pc fa piu rumore...potrebbe essere correlata la cosa?
[13:47] <krabador> AleC, da quando hai quale ubuntu in quale pc
[13:47] <AleC> da circa 15 giorni Ubuntu 15.10 Presario CQ56 HP
[13:48] <krabador> AleC, cpu , ram , scheda video
[13:48] <krabador> modelli precisi, non solo marchi.
[13:48] <AleC> ram 4gb
[13:49] <Mmrll> krabador la finestra componenti aggiuntivi dove si trova?
[13:49] <krabador> Mmrll, hai almeno 2 modi per visualizzarla
[13:50] <krabador> strumenti --- componenti aggiuntivi
[13:50] <AleC> Processore AMD V140
[13:50] <AleC> Scheda grafica ATI Radeon HD 4250
[13:50] <krabador> Mmrll, o cliccare nell'icona completamente a destra con 3 trattini
[13:50] <krabador> e poi componenti aggiuntivi
[13:52] <krabador> AleC, "HP Compaq Presario CQ56-103SG (XH187EA): HP Compaq: 299 euro – grande affare o radiatore portatile?"
[13:52] <krabador> considerazione volante di una recensione di un sito autorevole
[13:52] <krabador> AleC, hai mai pulito la ventola?
[13:53] <AleC> no da dentro no ho paura di far danno
[13:55] <krabador> AleC, dopo un paio d'anni è necessario al di la di quale sistema si usa
[13:55] <krabador> il coefficiente di dissipazione del sistema di raffreddamento si abbassa
[13:56] <krabador> AleC, in ubuntu , il chipset , ed altro, riguardo la gestione energetica del tuo pc puo' essere supportato in maniera meno efficiente che in altri sistemi, come quello con cui te l'hanno venduto
[13:56] <AleC> ok, e'possibile pulirla senza disassemblare il pc?
[13:56] <krabador> AleC, no
[13:56] <krabador> neanche ormai in pc di fascia semiprofessionale
[13:57] <AleC> ok ho capito, mi do all'avventura allora grazie!
[13:57] <krabador> AleC, i tecnici informatici non sono dei ladri
[13:57] <krabador> se non sai completamente fare una cosa, rivolgiti a loro
[13:57] <krabador> e vai con Dio
[14:02] <Mmrll> krabador la finestra componenti aggiuntivi è Add-ons?
[14:02] <krabador> Mmrll, hai firefox ed il sistema in inglese?
[14:02] <Mmrll> si
[14:02] <krabador> Mmrll, ma non sei italiano ?
[14:03] <Mmrll> no sono italiano
[14:03] <krabador> e perchè non setti il sistema in italiano , dal supporto lingue?
[14:04] <Mmrll> e come faccio?
[14:04] <krabador> Menu → Preferenze → Supporto lingue .
[14:05] <krabador> selezioni italiano, e magari togli inglese
[14:05] <krabador> scaricherà roba
[14:05] <krabador> fai fare, al che riavvii
[14:11] <Mmrll> krodabar, grazie
[14:36] <Guest19326> vorrei raggiungere il canale ubuntu chat
[14:37] <krabador> Guest19326, dal sito c'è il collegamento diretto
[14:37] <krabador> oppure /join #ubuntu-it-chat
[14:37] <krabador> non ti agitar
[14:40] <Kvasir> Salve, ho scaricato un'ora fa Ubuntu, sostituendolo a Windows, e ho provato a compilare dei programmi in c++ che avevo già scritto in precedenza
[14:41] <Kvasir> Mi dice "g++: comando non trovato"
[14:41] <Kvasir> Come posso rimediare a questo problema che, con la macchina virtuale, non avevo?
[14:43] <Marco8767888> buonasera
[14:43] <Marco8767888> ho un problema con un netbook il lenvo z50-70 con il bluetooth
[14:44] <Marco8767888> avendo mouse e tastiera bluetooth ne ho bisogno
[14:44] <Marco8767888> aiutatemi
[14:44] <cristian_c> Marco8767888: spiega il problema
[14:44] <Marco8767888> non trova i device
[14:45] <Marco8767888> di driver non si trova nulla e bluez vede l'interfaccia ma la ricerc non va
[14:45] <cristian_c> Marco8767888: il buetooth è attivo?
[14:45] <cristian_c> Marco8767888: stai usando blueman o gnome-bluetooth?
[14:46] <Marco8767888> non so quale sia..eàquello di default i ubuntu
[14:47] <cristian_c> ok
[14:47] <cristian_c> Marco8767888: ma una domanda
[14:47] <cristian_c> Marco8767888: solo con mouse e tastiera hai provato?
[14:48] <Marco8767888> nono
[14:48] <cristian_c> Marco8767888: hai impostato il chip bt del pc come visibile ad altri dispositivi?
[14:48] <Marco8767888> dal gestore si
[14:49] <Marco8767888> con gli altri device va discretamente
[14:49] <cristian_c> Marco8767888: con cosa hai provato?
[14:49] <Marco8767888> smartphone
[14:49] <cristian_c> Marco8767888: hai impostato mouse e tastiera in modalità di rilevamento?
[14:50] <Marco8767888> si
[14:50] <Marco8767888> ma scondo me e il driver
[14:50] <cristian_c> Marco8767888: fammi capire, il gestore bluetooth vede lo smartphone, ma non tastiera e mouse?
[14:50] <Marco8767888> vede tutto ma non si collega
[14:50] <cristian_c> Marco8767888: da cosa deduci ciò?
[14:50] <cristian_c> Marco8767888: ahhh
[14:51] <cristian_c> Marco8767888: spiega il 'non si collega'
[14:51] <Marco8767888> ho provato tastier e mouse alllo smartphone
[14:51] <Marco8767888> vanno perfetti
[14:51] <cristian_c> Marco8767888: ?
[14:51] <cristian_c> Marco8767888: non ho capito
[14:51] <Marco8767888> ho collegato con il bluetooth mouse e la tastiera allo smartphone
[14:51] <Marco8767888> e vanno bene
[14:52] <Marco8767888> mi sono collegato con un ltro nick dallo smartphone k ora riavvio il pc
[14:52] <cristian_c> Marco8767888: sì, ma non è detto che sia una questione di driver
[14:52] <cristian_c> lol
[14:52] <Marco8767889> E secondo te cos'è?
[14:53] <cristian_c> bisogna vedere
[14:53] <cristian_c> Marco8767889: esattamente, dopo che viene rilevato dalla ricerca
[14:53] <Marco8767889> Cosa?
[14:53] <cristian_c> Marco8767889: che cosa hai fatto?
[14:54] <Marco8767889> Il più nella lista per accoppiare
[14:54] <cristian_c> Marco8767889: seleziona 'trust', 'connetti' anche
[14:54] <Marco8767889> Trust?
[14:54] <Marco8767889> Dove?
[14:55] <cristian_c> Marco8767889: e 'servizio immissione dati'
[14:55] <cristian_c> Marco8767889: posta una schermafa
[14:55] <Marco8767889> Come devo fare?
[14:55] <cristian_c> altrimenti c'è il vecchio metodo bt-connect, che funziona sempre
[14:55] <cristian_c> anche se non so quanto sia valido lato sicurezza
[14:56] <Marco8767889> Non ho capito come devo procedere..
[14:59] <cristian_c> Marco8767889: aspè, c'è un altro sistema
[14:59] <cristian_c> Marco8767889: sudo bluez-simple-agent hci0 <mac_address_dispositivo>
[14:59] <cristian_c> se l'interfaccia bt è hci0
[15:00] <cristian_c> Marco8767889: vedi se te lo accetta senza sudo
[15:00] <Marco8767889> Comando non trovato
[15:02] <cristian_c> Marco8767889: sudo apt-get install bluez-tools
[15:03] <Marco8767889> Non va
[15:06] <Marco8767889> Il comando di prima non va
[15:06] <cristian_c> Marco8767889: ma hai installato bluez-tools
[15:07] <cristian_c> Marco8767889: e scrivere 'non va', è come dire tutto è niente
[15:07] <cristian_c> a meno che uno non sia dentro la tua testa
[15:07] <cristian_c> 'tutto e niente'
[15:08] <Marco8767889> Ho installato ma il comando che mi hai detto prima mi dice non trovato
[15:09] <cristian_c> Marco8767889: incolla il risultato sul servizio pasteb9n
[15:09] <cristian_c> usando il servizio pastebin
[15:10] <cristian_c> Marco8767889: http://paste.ubuntu.com/
[15:12] <Marco8767889> Fatto
[15:12] <cristian_c> Marco8767889: incolla qui il link della pagina
[15:12] <Marco8767889> Paste.ubuntu.com/13543387/
[15:13] <cristian_c> Marco8767889: e da dove l'hai preso quel comando?
[15:14] <Marco8767889> paste.ubuntu.com/13543408/
[15:15] <Marco8767889> Ho utilizzato un altro prima ho sbagliato
[15:15] <Marco8767889> Comunque è uguale
[15:15] <Marco8767889> Fa la. Stessa cosa che fa il tuo
[15:16] <cristian_c> Marco8767889: dokg -l | grep bluez
[15:16] <cristian_c> Marco8767889: utilizza sempre pastebin
[15:18] <Marco8767889> Paste.ubuntu.com/13543445
[15:18] <cristian_c> uhm, bluez 5
[15:18] <cristian_c> bisogna vedere se c'è ancora quel comando, o se è appannaggio di bluez 4
[15:19] <cristian_c> According to [1] I tried to set up my keyboard using the command line.
[15:19] <cristian_c> But actually simple-agent doesn't seem to be available in bluez 5.x.
[15:20] <Marco8767889> Ma non capisco perché mi dovrebbe dare tutti questi problemi.. Prima che formattavo andava bene
[15:20] <cristian_c> ecco spiegato
[15:21] <Marco8767889> E mo che posso usare?
[15:22] <cristian_c> Marco8767889: bluetoothctl
[15:24] <Marco8767889> Paste.ubuntu.com/13543505
[15:24] <cristian_c> benissimo
[15:24] <cristian_c> vede il controller e tre dispositivi, tra cui la tastiera
[15:25] <Marco8767889> Si
[15:25] <cristian_c> Marco8767889: pair device_mac_address
[15:25] <cristian_c> Marco8767889: che ovviamente tradurrai in:
[15:26] <cristian_c> Marco8767889: pair CC:C5:0A:15:E8:03
[15:26] <cristian_c> ops, scusa
[15:26] <Marco8767889> Il pair mi fa failed
[15:27] <cristian_c> Marco8767889: dev'essere in modalità di rilevamento
[15:27] <cristian_c> altrimenti non va
[15:27] <Marco8767889> Paste.ubuntu.com/13543538
[15:27] <cristian_c> Marco8767889: pastebin
[15:28] <cristian_c> Marco8767889: intendo la tastiera
[15:29] <cristian_c> lol
[15:30] <cristian_c> mmmmmm
[15:31] <cristian_c> Marco8767888: ma era già accoppiata e non connessa?
[15:31] <Marco8767888> era connessa ma non accoppiata
[15:31] <cristian_c> capito
[15:31] <cristian_c> Marco8767888: ora com'è?
[15:32] <Marco8767888> fa a sbalzi connessa e non connessa ora si
[15:32] <cristian_c> funz<?
[15:32] <Marco8767888> no
[15:32] <cristian_c> Marco8767888: allora
[15:32] <cristian_c> vai nel gestore bluwtooth
[15:32] <Marco8767888> http://paste.ubuntu.com/13543595/
[15:32] <cristian_c> Marco8767888: e rimuovi la tastiera dalla,lista
[15:33] <cristian_c> mmm, aspetta,cscus
[15:33] <Marco8767888> non ce nella lita
[15:33] <cristian_c> non fare nienre
[15:33] <cristian_c> Marco8767888: ah
[15:34] <cristian_c> Marco8767888: non accetto privati
[15:35] <cristian_c> scrivi in canale
[15:35] <Marco8767888> okok ci sono
[15:35] <cristian_c> Marco8767888: ti ha richiesto il pin?
[15:35] <cristian_c> nel terminale
[15:36] <cristian_c> agent]PIN code: ####
[15:36] <cristian_c> agent]Authorize service service_uuid (yes/no): yes
[15:36] <Marco8767888> no
[15:37] <Marco8767888> http://paste.ubuntu.com/13543656/
[15:38] <cristian_c> agent on
[15:38] <cristian_c> Marco8767888: perché c'era scritto 'bluetoothkeyboard' e ora solo 'bluetooth'?
[15:39] <cristian_c> Marco8767888: puoi postare su pastebin, output completi?
[15:39] <Marco8767888> quando fa yes appare quando no mette solo bluetooth
[15:39] <cristian_c> invece che a spizzichi e bocconi
[15:39] <cristian_c> Marco8767888: puoi tradurre?
[15:39] <Marco8767888> [bluetooth]# pair CC:C5:0A:15:E8:03
[15:39] <Marco8767888> Attempting to pair with CC:C5:0A:15:E8:03
[15:39] <Marco8767888> [CHG] Device CC:C5:0A:15:E8:03 Connected: yes
[15:39] <Marco8767888> [CHG] Device CC:C5:0A:15:E8:03 Connected: no
[15:39] <Marco8767888> [CHG] Device CC:C5:0A:15:E8:03 Connected: yes
[15:39] <Marco8767888> [CHG] Device CC:C5:0A:15:E8:03 Connected: no
[15:39] <Marco8767888> [CHG] Device CC:C5:0A:15:E8:03 Connected: yes
[15:39] <Marco8767888> [CHG] Device CC:C5:0A:15:E8:03 Connected: no
[15:39] <Marco8767888> [CHG] Device CC:C5:0A:15:E8:03 Connected: yes
[15:39] <Marco8767888> Failed to pair: org.bluez.Error.AuthenticationFailed
[15:39] <Marco8767888> [CHG] Device CC:C5:0A:15:E8:03 Connected: no
[15:39] <cristian_c> Marco8767888: fermi
[15:40] <Marco8767888> [CHG] Device CC:C5:0A:15:E8:03 Connected: yes ------- bluetooth keyboard
[15:40] <Marco8767888> [CHG] Device CC:C5:0A:15:E8:03 Connected: no ------------------------------bluetooth
[15:40] <cristian_c> Marco8767888: non qui in canale
[15:40] <cristian_c> ...
[15:40] <Marco8767888> ok scusa
[15:41] <cristian_c> Marco8767888: quindi si disconnette e si connette da solo?
[15:41] <Marco8767888> si
[15:43] <cristian_c> Marco8767888: digita: sudo apt-get update | pastebinit
[15:44] <cristian_c> Marco8767888: ah, per uscire da bluetoothctl, digita: quit
[15:44] <Marco8767888> fatto
[15:44] <Marco8767888> http://paste.ubuntu.com/13543737/
[15:48] <cristian_c> Marco8767888: ok, proviamo
[15:48] <cristian_c> Marco8767888: bluetoothctl
[15:49] <cristian_c> Marco8767888: devices
[15:51] <Marco8767888> poi
[15:52] <cristian_c> Marco8767888: che eace?
[15:52] <cristian_c> pastebin
[15:53] <cristian_c> *esce
[15:53] <Marco8767888> http://paste.ubuntu.com/13543857/
[15:57] <cristian_c> Marco8767888: remove CC:C5:0A:15:E8:03
[15:57] <Marco8767888> ok ha rimosso
[16:00] <Marco8767888> sta andando in loop
[16:00] <Marco8767888> la tastiera manda il segnale e il sistema lo rimuove
[16:00] <cristian_c> Marco8767888: perché? Tu che hai fatto?
[16:00] <Marco8767888> nulla
[16:00] <cristian_c> Marco8767888: pastebij
[16:00] <cristian_c> n
[16:00] <Marco8767888> apposto
[16:01] <cristian_c> ?
[16:01] <Marco8767888> ho premuto connect della tastiera e si e fermato
[16:02] <Musashi73> Salve a tutti. Uso ubuntu 15.10 e il browser Google Chrome e purtroppo non riesco a connettermi a internet, mi appare un messaggio DNS_PROBE_FINISHED_BAD_CONFIG. Ho provato a connettermi usando windows e google e riesco a connettermi alla rete LAN
[16:02] <cristian_c> Marco8767888: ok
[16:03] <cristian_c> Marco8767888: il tasto connect sulla tastiera serve a impostare la tastiera in modalità rilevamento?
[16:03] <Marco8767888> si
[16:03] <Marco8767888> non la vede piu
[16:03] <cristian_c> ok
[16:04] <Marco8767888> con devices non la ede
[16:04] <cristian_c> ok
[16:04] <cristian_c> Marco8767888: trust CC:C5:0A:15:E8:03
[16:04] <cristian_c> Marco8767888: ma prima
[16:04] <cristian_c> mettila in modalità rilevamento
[16:04] <cristian_c> poi dai il trust
[16:05] <Marco8767888> fatto ma mi da not avaible
[16:05] <cristian_c> Marco8767888: è in modalità rilevamento?
[16:06] <Marco8767888> anzi la preso ma mi e tornato il loop
[16:06] <cristian_c> mmm
[16:06] <cristian_c> stai sbagliando qualcoss
[16:06] <Marco8767888> riavvio?
[16:07] <Marco8767888> e iprovo?
[16:07] <cristian_c> Marco8767888: devices
[16:07] <Marco8767888> non la vede
[16:07] <cristian_c> allora non va in loop
[16:07] <cristian_c> Marco8767888: allora
[16:07] <cristian_c> Marco8767888: scan on
[16:08] <Marco8767888> ok poi?
[16:08] <Marco8767888> l ha trovat
[16:08] <cristian_c> Marco8767888: devices
[16:08] <Marco8767888> ok poi?
[16:09] <Musashi73> Potrebbe essere un problema di DNS o del file config??
[16:09] <akis24> Musashi73: da terminale sudo dpkg-reconfigure resolvconf che risponde ?
[16:09] <cristian_c> Marco8767888: che esce?
[16:09] <Marco8767888> la trova
[16:10] <cristian_c> Marco8767888: remove CC:C5:0A:15:E8:03
[16:11] <Musashi73> akis24, provo a fare il reboot ed avvio ubuntu, dopo scrivo da terminale il comando che mi hai suggerito ti farò sapere. Grazie
[16:11] <cristian_c> Marco8767888: è in modalità rilevamento?
[16:11] <Marco8767888> ok ha riosso
[16:11] <cristian_c> Marco8767888: è in modalità rilevamento?
[16:11] <Marco8767888> rimosso
[16:11] <Marco8767888> si
[16:11] <cristian_c> Marco8767888: devices
[16:11] <Marco8767888> non la trova
[16:12] <cristian_c> bene
[16:12] <cristian_c> Marco8767888: trust CC:C5:0A:15:E8:03
[16:12] <cristian_c> se non è scaduto il tempo
[16:12] <Marco8767888> dice non disponibile
[16:12] <Musashi73> in base alla risposta c'è qualche altro comando da avviare?
[16:12] <cristian_c> Marco8767888: scan on
[16:13] <Marco8767888> poi
[16:13] <cristian_c> Marco8767888: trust CC:C5:0A:15:E8:03
[16:13] <Marco8767888> trovata
[16:13] <akis24> Musashi73: fai pure di solito si fa' prima il comando si conferma con yes e poi si riavvia con sudo reboot
[16:13] <Marco8767888> fatto
[16:13] <cristian_c> Marco8767888: ok
[16:13] <cristian_c> ora:
[16:13] <Musashi73> ok
[16:13] <cristian_c> Marco8767888: pair CC:C5:0A:15:E8:03
[16:13] <cristian_c> Marco8767888: e dovrebbe andare
[16:14] <Marco8767888> in loop
[16:15] <Marco8767888> http://paste.ubuntu.com/13544140/
[16:19] <cristian_c> Marco8767888: remove CC:C5:0A:15:E8:03
[16:19] <Marco8767888> se sulla tastiera premi qualcosa ..va in loop
[16:20] <Marco8767888> comunque ho rimosso
[16:20] <cristian_c> Marco8767888: e perché hai premuto qualcosa?
[16:20] <cristian_c> Marco8767888: su quale tastiera? La bt?
[16:20] <Marco8767888> la bt
[16:20] <Marco8767888> ci ho colpito x sbagio spostandola
[16:20] <cristian_c> Marco8767888: ma hai provato senza 'premere qualcosa'?
[16:21] <Marco8767888> sisi
[16:21] <krabador> "ci ho colpito "
[16:21] <krabador> sparagli la prossima volta
[16:21] <Marco8767888> non cio il piombo
[16:24] <Marco8767888> che faccio?
[16:25] <cristian_c> Marco8767888: per favore
[16:26] <cristian_c> Marco8767888: se non premi qualcosa, non va in loop
[16:26] <cristian_c> ?
[16:26] <Marco8767888> no
[16:26] <cristian_c> e che succede?
[16:26] <cristian_c> (che m'hai mostrato solo i loop)
[16:27] <Marco8767888> niente il solit errore che non si acoppia
[16:27] <cristian_c> Marco8767888: quit
[16:27] <Musashi73> akis24, il problema DNS_PROBE_FINISHED_BAD_CONFIG è stato risolto come mi hai suggerito. -grazie
[16:28] <Musashi73> viva Ubuntu :-D
[16:29] <Marco8767888> ok fatto
[16:30] <cristian_c> Marco8767888: sudo hidd --search
[16:31] <cristian_c> Marco8767888: è in modalità rilevamento?
[16:31] <Marco8767888> comando non trovato
[16:31] <Marco8767888> si
[16:33] <cristian_c> Marco8767888: uhm, ho appena notato che il binario hidd è stato rimosso da bluez.utils
[16:33] <cristian_c> bluez-utils
[16:33] <cristian_c> Marco8767888: la tastiera ha una batteria o le pile?
[16:34] <Marco8767888> batteria
[16:34] <cristian_c> Marco8767888: c'è un interruttore per spegnerla e riaccenderla'
[16:34] <Marco8767888> si
[16:40] <cristian_c> Marco8767888: secondo me c'è qualcosa che non va in questo senso
[16:40] <cristian_c> ovvero, potrebbe essere utile
[16:40] <cristian_c> impostare il controller sul pc come visibile a dispositivi esterni
[16:41] <cristian_c> assicurarsi che la tastiera non sia presente nella lista dei dispositivi rilevati
[16:41] <cristian_c> spegnerla, riaccenderla
[16:41] <cristian_c> e metterlà in modalità rilevamento
[16:41] <cristian_c> a quel punto, fare una scansione
[16:41] <cristian_c> attivare il trust, accoppiarla, connetterla
[16:42] <Marco8767888> appena la riaccendo va in loop
[16:42] <cristian_c> e selezionare il servizio di immissione dati
[16:42] <cristian_c> Marco8767888: in loop cosa?
[16:42] <Marco8767889> Il solito
[16:42] <cristian_c> definisci
[16:43] <Marco8767889> Fa il delete e il new
[16:43] <cristian_c> Marco8767889: di cosa stiamo parlando?
[16:44] <Marco8767889> Aspetta
[16:44] <cristian_c> Marco8767888> appena la riaccendo va in loop
[16:45] <Marco8767889> Devo staccare che vado a lavoro.. Se ci sei dopo riscrivo
[16:45] <cristian_c> again: di che stiamo parlando?
[16:45] <Marco8767889> Comunque grazie
[16:46] <cristian_c> Marco8767889: se ci sei tu, quando ci sei, fornisci informazioni chiare
[16:46] <krabador> Marco8767889, grazie a te
[16:46] <krabador> torna a trovarci
[16:46] <Marco8767889> Certo
[17:11] <andre_senz> Ciao ragazzi, ho bisogno di aiuto... ho cercato a lungo in giro per forum e via dicendo, ma non ho trovato la risposta. Premetto che sono nuovo in ambiente unix, ma ho esigenza di installarle una distro linux per l'università... Il problema è questo: io ho seguito una guida, ho creato una partizione nella quale installare ubuntu , in dual boot con
[17:12] <andre_senz> w10. Tutto bene fino a quando non arriva il momento di installare: linux non riconosce windows, sapete aiutarmi per caso??
[17:12] <krabador> come hai fatto la partizione?
[17:13] <andre_senz> con EaseUS, come partizione primaria... all'inizio l'avevo fatta con il partiton manager di windows, ma siccome non funzionava ho provato ad usare questo sw(l'ho trovato in un tutorial)
[17:14] <krabador> andre_senz, che file system hai usato?
[17:14] <krabador> per la partizione che hai creato?
[17:15] <andre_senz> NTFS... poco fa ho trovato su un forum un tizio che ha scritto di provare a scaricare la nuova versione(15.10), pensi che possa cambiare qualcosa?
[17:15] <krabador> andre_senz, molto semplicemetne
[17:16] <krabador> linux, non so se ti è capitato di leggere a riguardo
[17:16] <krabador> non si installa in ntfs
[17:16] <krabador> quindi , hai perso solo tempo a fare la partizione da windows
[17:16] <krabador> andre_senz, il processo di installazione di ubuntu è identico da diversi anni
[17:17] <krabador> andre_senz, ma l'ultima versione ti fa avere meno problemi con uefi
[17:17] <krabador> se il tuo pc ha win10 in uefi abilitato
[17:17] <andre_senz> no no ho ancora il buon vecchio bios...
[17:18] <andre_senz> quindi cosa dovrei fare per farlo funzionare ? devo fare una partizione in fat32?
[17:18] <krabador> andre_senz, perfetto, allora scarica la versione che vuoi, fa il supporto di installazione , fa partire la sessione di prova
[17:18] <krabador> andre_senz, ...
[17:18] <krabador> andre_senz, fa partire la sessione di prova, carica gparted
[17:19] <krabador> formatta la partizione già creata, se lo spazio ti sembra sufficiente, in ext4 , oppure fa partire la procedura di installazione , quando ti chiede dove installare, selezioni la voce "altro"
[17:20] <krabador> selezioni la partizione ntfs, clicchi sulla voce "change" selezioni file system ext4 con journaling, punto di mount / , spunti la voce di formattazione
[17:20] <krabador> vai avanti , et voilà
[17:21] <andre_senz> Il problema è che non mi visualizza la partizione, cioè il mio hd ha 4 partizioni, quando apro gparted me ne fa vedere una grossa 300 gb(ovvero tutto l'hd)
[17:22] <krabador> andre_senz, fa partire il supporto di installazione in sessione di prova, attacca un cavo lan , o se funziona la wireless , connettiti, ed entra qui
[17:22] <andre_senz> va bene arrivo subito!
[17:25] <plm> salve, ieri ho cercato di installare ubuntu server, ma al riavvio non mi ha trovato grub. nè sono sicuro di aver fatto bene il raid1. qualcuno mi accompagnerebbe step by step in questa procedura?
[17:31] <cristian_c> plm: quando hai fatto il raid 1?
[17:32] <andre_senz> eccomi
[17:34] <krabador> andre_senz, apri il terminale
[17:34] <krabador> andre_senz, di quale versione sei in live , adesso?
[17:34] <andre_senz> 14 04
[17:36] <andre_senz> https://www.filepicker.io/api/file/HzE0awQARqzLihmmK8Jw
[17:36] <andre_senz> questo e gparted
[17:38] <krabador> andre_senz, hai aperto il terminale ?
[17:38] <andre_senz> sisi
[17:38] <plm> cristian_c, dopo la conferma della timezone mi chiede di attivare
[17:39] <plm> mdadm e ata raid
[17:39] <krabador> andre_senz, software-properties-gtk
[17:39] <krabador> andre_senz, metti la spunta a tutto , tranne a "source" e la togli dalla voce cd rom
[17:40] <andre_senz> ok fatto
[17:40] <cristian_c> plm: durante l'installazione di ubuntu?
[17:40] <cristian_c> plm: hai un controller raid sulla scheda madre?
[17:40] <krabador> andre_senz, chiudi quella finestra
[17:40] <krabador> andre_senz, sudo apt-get update, nel terminale, invio
[17:40] <krabador> sudo apt-get install pastebinit
[17:40] <krabador> sudo fdisk -l | pastebinit
[17:40] <plm> si il server è un lenovo thinkserver
[17:41] <plm> ts140 per l'esattezza.
[17:41] <plm> dopo questi messaggi mi porta alla maschera per il partizionamento.
[17:41] <andre_senz> ok fatto
[17:41] <cristian_c> plm: quanti sistemi hai sul server?
[17:41] <krabador> andre_senz, tutti?
[17:41] <andre_senz> sisi
[17:42] <krabador> andre_senz, l'ultimo ha fatto un link, incollalo
[17:42] <plm> al momento nessuno. è nuovo di pacca :D
[17:42] <cristian_c> plm: e perché lamenti l'assenza di grub?
[17:42] <andre_senz> Ign http://archive.ubuntu.com trusty/universe Translation-en_US questo_
[17:43] <plm> perché dopo aver installato ubuntu ho riavviato e non l'ha trovato quindi vorrei capire dove è finito!
[17:43] <krabador> andre_senz, proprio no
[17:43] <krabador> andre_senz, hai digitato TUTTI i comandi che ti ho scritto?
[17:43] <krabador> andre_senz, quanti ne hai mandati?
[17:43] <plm> di fatto senza un boot loader il sistema non si è avviato. ha cercato di avviarsi prendendo un sistema dalla rete ma senza successo.
[17:43] <andre_senz> ah no aspetta non ne avevo visto uno, ora lo faccio
[17:43] <cristian_c> plm: scusa, e cosa si è avviato, invece di ubuntu?
[17:44] <plm> praticamente nulla.
[17:44] <cristian_c> plm: ma sai gestire un server?
[17:44] <plm> ha cercato di avviarsi da rete, ma senza successo.
[17:44] <andre_senz> http://paste.ubuntu.com/13545454/ questo mi e uscito
[17:44] <plm> prima volta cristian_c
[17:45] <plm> prima avevo un apache2 installato su ubuntu, ora volevo venirne fuori per avere qualche prestazione un po' migliore.
[17:45] <cristian_c> plm: e tu installi ubuntu server senza avere,le necessarie competenze?
[17:46] <plm> ho cercato documentazione online e non sembrava così tanto difficile da installare.
[17:46] <krabador> plm, non è una cosa trascendentale, ma con un minimo di esperienza alla base, non da improvvisati
[17:46] <krabador> stiamo sempre parlando di un sistema server
[17:46] <plm> appunto.
[17:47] <krabador> appunto.
[17:47] <plm> se mi date una mano vengo a capo dell'installazione... :D
[17:47] <krabador> plm, un server è meglio che abbia un ammistratore
[17:47] <krabador> che sappia quello che fa
[17:47] <plm> krabador, ne sono certo, ma un aiuto a procedere sarebbe gradito.
[17:48] <andre_senz> krabador hai letto quello che ti ho copiato _>(
[17:48] <krabador> plm, noi gradiamo che gli utenti con esigenze aziendali , si rivolgano a personale specializzato, in questo canale si fa assistenza desktop
[17:48] <krabador> andre_senz, non pressare.
[17:49] <plm> krabador, io non sono un aziendale. sono un privato che sta cercando di fare esperienza su qualcosa di nuovo. non voglio pressare... confidavo solo nella cortesia della community
[17:50] <andre_senz> era solo una domanda, e non era una faccina incattivita, ho la mappa caratteri sfasata
[17:50] <krabador> plm, "non pressare" non è rivolto a te, e qui dentro si fa assistenza a sistemi desktop
[17:50] <krabador> andre_senz, pazienza
[17:50] <krabador> andre_senz, nel senso, un attimo di pazienza
[17:51] <andre_senz> certo certo, ci mancherebbe, e gia tanto che mi aiuti
[17:51] <plm> se almeno mi potessi indicare una documentazione utile allo scopo sarebbe gradito. perché il problema in questo momento non è il server o la sua amministrazione, ma la configurazione del raid e l'install di grub che avevo messo in mbr e non è partito.
[17:52] <cristian_c> plm: hai letto la documentazione relativa a raid sul wiki?
[17:52] <cristian_c> sul wiki di ubuntu
[17:52] <cristian_c> ma anche sul wiki di ubuntu internazionale in inglese
[17:53] <krabador> andre_senz, dpkg -l | grep exfat | pastebinit
[17:53] <cristian_c> plm: ma anche la documentazione ufficiale relativa all'installazione di ubuntu server
[17:53] <andre_senz> You are trying to send an empty document, exiting.
[17:54] <andre_senz> e uscito questo
[17:54] <plm> ho trovato qualcosa sul raid0
[17:54] <krabador> andre_senz, sudo apt-get update | pastebinit
[17:55] <cristian_c> plm: c'è una documentazione ufficiale
[17:55] <cristian_c> per chi inizia a sperimentare privatamente
[17:55] <plm> quella ce l'avevo sotto mano, ma forse qualcosa non l'ho fatto bene...
[17:58] <cristian_c> plm: in ogni caso, se vuoi approfondire tematiche specifiche
[17:59] <cristian_c> plm: puoi tranquillamente entrare nel canale -chat, in cui le argomentazioni sono libere riguardo tutto ciò che non è strettamente supporto all'installazione di ubuntu sul proprio pc
[18:00] <krabador> andre_senz, ha finito?
[18:00] <andre_senz> finito ora
[18:00] <andre_senz> http://paste.ubuntu.com/13545614/
[18:01] <krabador> andre_senz, sudo apt-get -y install exfat-utils exfat-fuse | pastebinit
[18:02] <krabador> andre_senz, chiudi gparted, se non l'hai già fatto
[18:03] <andre_senz> http://paste.ubuntu.com/13545728/
[18:04] <krabador> andre_senz, sudo gparted
[18:07] <andre_senz> https://www.filepicker.io/api/file/VbMIxqk7QACh9bPhOAa8
[18:07] <andre_senz> esce questa
[18:08] <krabador> andre_senz, sicuro di non avere uefi?
[18:09] <andre_senz> cavolo, hai ragione ho sbagliato pc, qui ho uefi
[18:10] <krabador> "<andre_senz> cavolo, hai ragione ho sbagliato pc"
[18:10] <krabador> ...
[18:10] <krabador> torna quando sei nel pc interessato e magari hai voglia di far perdere meno tempo
[18:10] <andre_senz> non e possibile installarlo con uefi
[18:10] <andre_senz> ?
[18:11] <andre_senz> perche mi sono confuso con il fisso, ma e sul portatile che devo installaro
[18:11] <krabador> si, cosa che se avessi parlato prima
[18:11] <krabador> sarebbe stata abbondantemente evasa
[18:11] <krabador> andre_senz, scarica 15.10, e segui la procedura di installazione standard
[18:12] <andre_senz> la 15 10 supporta uefi?
[18:12] <krabador> andre_senz, continui a pedere tempo?
[18:12] <andre_senz> e una domanda, domandare e lecito
[18:12] <krabador> ti ho segnalato cosa fare in caso di uefi
[18:13] <andre_senz> " scarica 15 10" non mi pare una segnalazione cosi dettagliata, per questo ti ho chiesto se bastasse scaricare la 15
[18:14] <krabador> andre_senz, non ti pare, perchè sei il tipo che sbaglia pc
[18:14] <krabador> andre_senz, qui non si sta a perdere tempo.
[18:15] <krabador> piu' "<krabador> andre_senz, il processo di installazione di ubuntu è identico da diversi anni
andre_senz, ma l'ultima versione ti fa avere meno problemi con uefi
[18:15] <krabador> alle 18:16
[18:15] <andre_senz> e comunque
[18:15] <andre_senz> anche con 15 10
[18:15] <andre_senz> non va
[18:15] <andre_senz> quindi non penso sia la soluzione
[18:16] <andre_senz> te l ho scritto appena un messaggio sopra a quello che hai incollato te
[18:16] <krabador> andre_senz, "non penso" detto da uno che sbaglia pc
[18:16] <andre_senz> che leone da tastiera
[18:16] <andre_senz> grazie comunque, adios
[18:16] <krabador> ciao
[18:16] <krabador> leone del pc
[18:19] <krabador> "<andre_senz> NTFS... poco fa ho trovato su un forum un tizio che ha scritto di provare a scaricare la nuova versione(15.10), pensi che possa cambiare qualcosa?" ---> quando hai provato ?
[18:33] <Barrnet> Ho un PC con attualmente montato Windows 10 a cui devo restringere la partizione per installarci a fianco ubuntu. Il problema è che non posso formattare la partizione e che l'avvio di Windows fallisce, rimandendo in schermata nera. La partizione rimane quindi in stato non sicuro e gparted non può gestirla. Suggerimenti?
[22:40] <Mauro88> ciao a tutti
[22:40] <Mauro88> sto cercando un applicazione per poter visualizzare i file che ho nella partizione con windows
[22:40] <Mauro88> potete aiutarmi?
[22:41] <cristian_c> Mauro88: un normalissimo file manager
[22:41] <cristian_c> non ti serve altro
[22:48] <caveat-> Mauro88: dopo aver montato la partizione, hai completo accesso al filesystem. Non hai bisogno di alcuna applicazione in realta'
[22:52] <Mauro88> si grazie, alla fine sono riuscito ;)
[22:58] <disperata> c'e' qualcuno che puo' aiutarmi? sto tentando di installare ubuntu
[22:59] <disperata> ho la videata viola dopo aver fatto partire il boot dalla chiavetta
[22:59] <disperata> ora videata nera
[22:59] <disperata> nessun messaggio
[22:59] <cristian_c> disperata: ti avevo
[22:59] <cristian_c> espressamente
[22:59] <cristian_c> suggerito
[23:00] <cristian_c> disperata: di scaricare universal usb installer
[23:00] <cristian_c> nel canale #ubuntu-it-chat
[23:00] <cristian_c> disperata: l'hai fatto?
[23:00] <disperata> ma la guida di ubuntu dice altro. e comunque non e' problema di ISO mal portato.
[23:00] <disperata> puo' essere il pc non abbia i requisitiminimi, devo controllare meglio
[23:01] <cristian_c> disperata: e come fai a saperlo?
[23:01] <cristian_c> disperata: sì, controlla anche quello
[23:01] <disperata> ho controllato i file che ha creato su chiavetta, sono perfettamente rispondenti all'elenco che da la guida
[23:01] <cristian_c> disperata: ma unetbootin, è sconsigliato
[23:01] <cristian_c> perché in molti casi non ti permette il boot, sopratutto sui pc più recenti
[23:03] <disperata> infatti. il mio e' vecchio e diceva che per vecchi pc e' consigliato unetbootin
[23:03] <disperata> solo per capire: quanto dovrebbe durare l'install mediamente?
[23:03] <disperata> 10 minuti o piu'?
[23:03] <cristian_c> disperata: è formattata in fat32?
[23:03] <disperata> si, ho seguito tutte le istruzioni. fat32
[23:04] <cristian_c> disperata: unetbootin ha già trasferito la iso su usb?
[23:04] <disperata> si, ho messo la chiavetta nel pc
[23:05] <cristian_c> disperata: ed esattamente, cosa fai'
[23:05] <cristian_c> =
[23:05] <disperata> mi e' venuto il menu' iniziale
[23:05] <cristian_c> bene
[23:05] <disperata> ho selezionato install ubuntu
[23:05] <disperata> mi e' venuto fuori il marchio
[23:05] <disperata> aspetta.. si muove!!!
[23:05] <cristian_c> disperata: io proverei la modalità live, fossi in te
[23:06] <cristian_c> disperata: di che pc parliamo?
[23:06] <cristian_c> cpu, ram, scheda grafica
[23:06] <disperata> ok, mi chiede la lingua
[23:06] <disperata> mi chiede la rete a cui connettersi!
[23:07] <cristian_c> disperata: se hai iniziato l'installazione
[23:07] <disperata> mi chiede la password di rete...
[23:07] <cristian_c> in bocca alclupo
[23:08] <cristian_c> disperata: ma ti avrei suggerito invece la modalità di prova
[23:09] <cristian_c> disperata: e controllare i requisiti minimi per ubuntu, non era una cattiva idea
[23:09] <disperata> tanto e' un pc vecchio e se va ok, senno' pazienza
[23:09] <disperata> connecting...
[23:10] <disperata> :-/
[23:11] <disperata> The installer encountered an unrecoverable error. A desktop session will now be run so that you may investigate the problem or try installing again
[23:12] <disperata> scheramata viola
[23:12] <disperata> dovrebbe pero' partire una sessione che mi dice dov'e' l'errore
[23:12] <disperata> o no?
[23:13] <disperata> amche insulti, ma non lasciatemi sola con la schermata viola
[23:18] <disperata> spento, rilanciato, faccio il check del disco
[23:19] <disperata> cxheck ok
[23:19] <disperata> riprovo
[23:21] <disperata> riprovo senza rete pero'
[23:22] <disperata> presumo possa dargli la rete a posteriori
[23:24] <disperata> ok, sta partizionando il disco
[23:26] <disperata> STA LAVORANDO!
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2015-11-28-#ubuntu-es
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[00:24] <raflex> saludos,
[00:25] <raflex> alguien a trabajado con MAAS?
[13:15] <successus> salud, hasta otro rato o/
[17:25] <roger_35> o/
[17:50] <julio> buenas tardes.. alguien me puede facilitar el paquete para instalar adobe flash
[17:51] <julio> no puedo sintonizar radios de internet por falta de plugins
[17:51] <julio> soy nuevo en linux
[18:08] <Konqi> hola julio
[18:08] <roger_35> ya se fue
[20:00] <successus> salud o/
[20:30] <uruk> hola
[20:30] <mimecar> hola
[20:31] <uruk> tengo un problema con un usb el qual lo tengo todo los directorios i ficheros a uruk:uruk i en 777 i quiero abrir un fichero pero nome lo deja grabar solo me lo deja abrir como solo lectura
[20:32] <uruk> parto siempre desde uruk:uruk
[20:33] <mimecar> si el sistema no está bien montado, da igual que le des permisos 777
[20:33] <mimecar> ¿qué versión de Ubuntu estás usando?
[20:33] <uruk> 14.04 LTS
[20:34] <mimecar> ¿has comprobado si el USB tiene errores?
[20:34] <uruk> que yo sepa no tiene errores
[20:35] <uruk> de todas formas nunca me ha dado problemas
[20:35] <mimecar> ¿lo has comprobado?
[20:35] <uruk> como se deberia comprobar
[20:35] <uruk> ?
[20:35] <mimecar> ¿qué sistema de archivos tiene?
[20:35] <uruk> ext4
[20:35] <mimecar> estás usando una memoria USB con EXT4?
[20:36] <uruk> si
[20:36] <mimecar> no es normal usar ese sistema de archivos
[20:36] <uruk> que tengo que hacer paasarlo a fat321
[20:36] <mimecar> desmonta la partición y después usa fsck.ext4 /dev/partición
[20:36] <uruk> ?
[20:36] <mimecar> sólo puedes pasarla guardando los datos en otro disco y formateando
[20:37] <uruk> ok
[20:37] <mimecar> ¿usas EXT4 por alguna razón?
[20:37] <mimecar> vengo en un rato
[20:37] <uruk> por que tengo ficheros que necesito cierto grado de seguridad que me da
[20:38] <uruk> ext4 que no me da fat32
[20:38] <mimecar> ext4 no te da seguridad
[20:38] <mimecar> si necesitas seguridad, cifra los archivos
[20:38] <uruk> si tambien pero era mas un tema de seguridad de accesos de todas formas tendria que funcionar,
[20:39] <uruk> pero bueno supongo que debe haber sido que me volvi a instalar el sistema operativo con otro user
[20:40] <uruk> i por alguna razon que desconozco aunke le haya puesto chown -R uruk:uruk /media/uruk/usb/
[20:41] <uruk> i me dejo todo con los permisos 777 no me deja
[20:42] <uruk> me gustaria saber porque pasa eso , la solucion rapida es copiar i formatear usb
[20:43] <uruk> bueno gracias mimecar de todas formas
[20:55] <mimecar> aunque tengas permisos 777
[20:55] <mimecar> eso no quiere decir que tengas acceso total y menos si el sistema de archivos está como sólo lecuta
[20:55] <mimecar> lectura
[21:08] <uruk> como se sabe eso? tenia entendido que si tengo rwxrwxrwx eso implica que todo el mundo puede acceder i ademas cuando entro como uruk:uruk i todo el usb esta como uruk:uruk, como puedo ver desde terminal que esos ficheros son solo de lectura?
[21:09] <uruk> lo que si que me he fijado es que en cada fichero cuando le hago un ll me acaba el el nombre con *
[21:10] <mimecar> ¿ya has comprobado si tiene errores?
[21:11] <uruk> como se hace eso?
[21:11] <mimecar> desmonta la partición y después usa fsck.ext4 /dev/partición
[21:16] <uruk> umount /dev/sdd
[21:16] <uruk> umount /dev/sdd no montado
[21:17] <uruk> fsck.ext4 /dev/sdd
[21:17] <uruk> /dev/sdd is in use
[21:18] <uruk> e2fsck no se puede continuar, se finaliza
[21:21] <uruk> ok ya lo encontre /dev/sdc1
[21:22] <uruk> mimecar me pone diferencias del mapa de bits del bloque ....
[21:23] <mimecar> si tienes errores arreglalos
[21:24] <uruk> ok ya esta
[21:24] <uruk> pero me sigue solo abriendo ficheros como lectura
[21:24] <uruk> solo lectura
[21:24] <mimecar> ¿los has corregido, desconectado el USB y conectado de nuevo?
[21:25] <uruk> si solo lectura a ver vuelvo ha repetir lo que hice
[21:27] <uruk> me da el siguiente output
[21:27] <mimecar> si son muchas líneas ponlas en pastebin
[21:27] <uruk> cuando le meto fsck.ext4 /dev/sde1
[21:27] <uruk> solo una
[21:28] <uruk> clean, 3579/250480 files, 48 ..... blocks
[21:28] <uruk> los puntos suspensivos son numeros de los bloques
[21:30] <uruk> ndad no hay manera , de encontrar el problema pues formateare
[22:04] <successus> salud, hasta otro rato o/
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2015-11-28-#ubuntu-us-wi
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[18:45] <h00k> oi
[18:46] <tsimonq2> h00k: key, look at what I sent you in Hangouts
[18:47] <tsimonq2> *hey
[18:47] <tsimonq2> (I was opped because a spammer joined)
[18:47] <jythrgfvedceffrt> I shall not spam an on-topic channel.
[18:48] <tsimonq2> jythrgfvedceffrt: you should get an ACTUAL REGISTERED nick
[18:48] <jythrgfvedceffrt> And even if this one is off-topic, I won't spam it.
[18:48] <jythrgfvedceffrt> I have one, but rarely use it.
[19:50] <tsimonq2> mikeputnam3: you are coming to our meeting on Tuesday, right?
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2015-11-28-#juju
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[09:32] <blahdeblah> Anyone know when 1.25.1 is due to release? Looking for the fix for https://bugs.launchpad.net/juju-core/+bug/1412621
[09:32] <mup> Bug #1412621: replica set EMPTYCONFIG MAAS bootstrap <adoption> <bootstrap> <bug-squad> <charmers> <cpec> <cpp> <maas-provider> <mongodb> <oil> <juju-core:Fix Released by frobware> <juju-core 1.24:Won't Fix> <juju-core 1.25:Fix Released by frobware> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1412621>
[09:32] <blahdeblah> (i.e. release into stable)
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2015-11-28-#xubuntu
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[00:00] <recon_lap> not sure if anyone is interested but manages to get xubuntu installed, seems I had two issues, motherboard shorting onto the case and conflicts between SATA hdd and ATA DVD drive
[00:01] <function9x> yikes, hope the mobo is not damaged after that short
[00:02] <recon_lap> well, short was stopping it from turning on
[00:03] <recon_lap> the hdd conflict was evil though, it just caused random lockups.
[02:08] <rritoch> Hi, I just upgraded to wily werewolf and I'm having a problem starting KDE (Plasma). Half way through the initialization the X server stops functioning. To make a long story short I can't debug the problem because I can't get the X server to stop. How do I shutdown the X server so I can launch everything manually? Before the update I could just 'service sddm stop' to launch manually and debug
[02:08] <rritoch> Now SDDM autorestarts, as does X
[02:10] <rritoch> For whatever reason, XFCE works, I just can't get the X server to stop so I can launch startkde & X manually.
[02:13] <rritoch> Ok, I think I found it, there's a "new" file, /etc/X11/Xsession.options which I needed to comment out the "allow-failsafe"
[02:16] <rritoch> Well, that was a complete waste of time. Manually it starts fine, it's just the sddm startup that's broken
[03:45] <rritoch> I'm going to try to re-install the intel graphics drivers, since the screen is blacking out it must be a driver issue, I just don't know how the bug only exists when logging in from sddm, and not when starting startkde manually.
[03:49] <rritoch> Well, I'm at a complete loss
[03:51] <rritoch> Re-installing the video drivers had no effect. As far as I know sddm launches kde by running X and then startkde (per the configurations) yet it doesn't work and blacks out durring the initialization. When I stop sddm and launch X and startkde manually it works.
[03:53] <rritoch> Since this "forum" is so responsive I'm just going to report it as a bug.
[03:55] <rritoch> Yeah, it must be a bug, dmesg is reporting segfaults
[04:10] <rritoch> Well, I narrowed down the problem slightly, kde will only run as root :(
[09:49] <melodie> hi
[09:49] <melodie> does Xubuntu have several icon themes by default, brought by depends in a mandatory way? such as gnome-icon-theme, adwaita, ubuntu-mono?
[09:50] <melodie> this is why I am asking the question:
[09:50] <melodie> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gtk+3.0/+bug/1510709
[09:57] <function9x> melodie: yes adwaita looks broken
[09:57] <melodie> hi function9x
[09:58] <melodie> no it's not broken, it's mandatory instead of being compulsory
[09:58] <melodie> and it's not about adwaita, it's about libgtk-3-common which all of a sudden in Debian Jessie has adwaita-icon-theme as a mandatory dependency
[09:59] <melodie> can you read in the bug report? not just part of it?
[10:07] <function9x> melodie: you don't think it's broken? http://imgur.com/ydvLUzG
[10:07] <function9x> bbl
[10:07] <melodie> I look at your link
[10:08] <melodie> function9x I think it should not be a mandatory depend to that libgtk 3 common, for a start
[10:28] <melodie> function9x I just saw
[10:29] <melodie> could you add a comment on my bug report, and include the direct link to your image? http://i.imgur.com/ydvLUzG.png
[10:29] <melodie> this is very interesting
[10:29] <melodie> not only bloating the Ubuntu editions (brings in ubuntu-mono which everyone does not need either)
[10:29] <melodie> but also useless? that's fun
[10:29] <melodie> (not so fun actually)
[13:04] <xubuntu75w> I've just installed VLC on my Xubuntu 14.04 PC, but when I try to run the application it just doesn't start.
[13:05] <cfhowlett> xubuntu75w, open it from terminal
[13:05] <xubuntu75w> yes
[13:06] <cfhowlett> did it start?
[13:06] <xubuntu75w> not run
[13:07] <xubuntu75w> its not open
[13:08] <cfhowlett> error messages??
[13:08] <xubuntu75w> no
[13:08] <xubuntu75w> its not any display
[13:09] <cfhowlett> ah! try this: drag and drop a media file to follow vlc:
[13:10] <cfhowlett> vlc '/home/acerimmer/Music/Calloway, Cab/Best Of The Big Bands/01 Minnie The Moocher (Theme Song.mp3'
[13:11] <cfhowlett> vlc is invisible if started from clvc
[13:11] <cfhowlett> cvlc
[13:12] <xubuntu75w> vlc not open
[13:12] <cfhowlett> did it play your file?
[13:12] <xubuntu75w> can i run it??
[13:12] <xubuntu75w> its not run
[13:13] <xubuntu75w> its not open
[13:13] <xubuntu75w> i just install it from software centre
[13:14] <xubuntu75w> and when i double click vlc logo its not open,its not any message to me.
[13:15] <flocculant> xubuntu75w: cfhowlett is trying to get you to open vlc AND one of your files from a terminal
[13:15] <cfhowlett> not enough information to guess. ask in #uubntu
[13:15] <flocculant> you'll need to put your own media file info in
[13:19] <xubuntu75w> windows is better for me.
[13:19] <xubuntu75w> BYe Bye Xubuntu
[13:25] <Ashik> Please help me
[13:26] <Ashik> Vlc not Run
[13:27] <cfhowlett> Ashik, you said no more xubuntu
[14:05] <melodie> salut Nairwolf
[14:07] <Nairwolf> salut melodie ;)
[14:08] <melodie> Nairwolf did you see my pm?
[14:08] <Nairwolf> yes
[17:32] <WaynesKaffe> Hello folks! my cpu-indicator (unity indicator) has stop scaling the cpu. It's on powersave mode all time since 2 days ago.
[17:32] <WaynesKaffe> Any with similar issues?
[17:32] <WaynesKaffe> I can't play games more, its lagging as hell
[17:48] <WaynesKaffe> guys?anyone?
[17:56] <flocculant> WaynesKaffe: hi
[17:56] <flocculant> so - when it stopped working - was that after some updates for something else?
[17:57] <flocculant> and do you mean xfce4-cpufreq-plugin ?
[17:57] <flocculant> or do you have some unity one installed for some reason?
[17:58] <flocculant> WaynesKaffe: I've not been able to find any report of that issue, nor any change recently
[18:01] <WaynesKaffe> flocculant: I've used indicator-cpufreq in xubuntu untils now.
[18:01] <WaynesKaffe> Its a unity plugin.
[18:03] <flocculant> that's got just as little in the way of recent changes
[18:03] <flocculant> so - what else happened at about the time it stopped working?
[18:05] <WaynesKaffe> I did notice it when I played League of Legends..the game was laggins as hell.
[18:05] <WaynesKaffe> I did an update && upgrade before it.
[18:05] <flocculant> tried it with an older kernel?
[18:06] <flocculant> and if it is the ubuntu thing - might be people in #ubuntu who've heard about issues
[18:06] <WaynesKaffe> Is it possible to pick older kernel at start with grub? I have that alternative in my Ubuntu install.
[18:09] <flocculant> should be unless you've just got one install, in which case press shift after bios and you should see the menu
[18:09] <WaynesKaffe> Thnx m8 =) I will give it a try.
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[00:28] <daftykins> yay done at last :P
[00:29] <penguin42> hehe
[00:31] <daftykins> didn't take that long naturally, just #ubuntu support delays me :>
[00:31] <daftykins> midnight of monday morning is the new time \o/
[01:33] <wizzkidd> penguin42: hi, are you still around? i just managed to boot from my usb at last. lol
[01:33] <penguin42> heyhey
[01:34] <penguin42> wizzkidd: However back a few hours ago you thought you'd just lost two or three files and that's an easy fix, but then we figured out that everything was segfaulting left and right
[01:34] <wizzkidd> penguin42: indeed, so I guess the path I need to go down, and do with some assistance with is, reinstalling over the top? is that possible?
[01:35] <penguin42> wizzkidd: Why over-the-top rather than nuke and start from clean?
[01:35] <wizzkidd> penguin42: tbh I have installed and configured so much, and really didnt want to start from fresh :/
[01:35] <daftykins> wizzkidd: long drive out to it, was it? :(
[01:36] <penguin42> wizzkidd: That might be tricky unless you've got /home on a separate partition and it's still risky
[01:36] <wizzkidd> penguin42: i have a backup of home :)
[01:36] <penguin42> wizzkidd: OK, so nuke it and reinstall home
[01:37] <wizzkidd> *gulp*
[01:44] <wizzkidd> a question a little off track... i've previously installed xrdp and xfce onto ubuntu server 15.10 and can rdp from my windows machine to the serverf fine. In the past I made sure that I had installed the "ubuntu-desktop" package as a pre-req assuming this is probably vital (or contains vital packages) for the xrdp to work. Does anyone know if "ubuntu-desktop" is required for xrdp to work (bearing in mind that I use xrdp with t
[01:45] <daftykins> that's a bit of a shotgun approach
[01:46] <daftykins> ubuntu-desktop is a metapackage that contains all the cruft like libre-office and so on
[01:46] <daftykins> but you have a remotely hosted server and you're installing GUI components? i would not be doing that :)
[01:52] <wizzkidd> daftykins: its not remotely hosted, its my own physical machine, although i hardly physically use it, i tend to use web gui's and ssh as much as possible
[01:53] <daftykins> so when you said you couldn't reset it earlier, it was just in another room?
[01:54] <wizzkidd> daftykins: I was at work, so yeah. I was asking in order to see if I could learn something new, as you do :)
[01:54] <wizzkidd> daftykins: i found it hard to lessen the amount of urgency in my voice(typing) lol
[01:56] <daftykins> experiment on non-vital systems XD
[01:56] <wizzkidd> daftykins: agreed!!
[01:57] <wizzkidd> daftykins: although we all learn from our mistakes. I'm in the process of rebuilding the physical, but also rebuilding a VM too :)
[01:58] <daftykins> sounds like a plan, i nearly said if it were a VM there'd have been a method of control
[01:59] <wizzkidd> daftykins: If i screwed up again in the future, I'm hoping that with the VM, I can possibly V2P it which hopefully would speed up the rebuild process (should it ever need to be done AGAIN)
[02:00] <daftykins> that sounds pretty odd an approach to me
[02:00] <daftykins> run the services in a VM, snapshot prior to doing risky things
[02:00] <daftykins> or backup often :>
[02:01] <wizzkidd> daftykins: yes, of course I will snapshot as and when. But im talking about a way to do DR on the physical server in the shortest time frame
[02:02] <wizzkidd> if the VM dies, thats no big deal cause I can roll back
[02:03] <daftykins> well if you really cared, you'd have a reliable disk setup with some redundancy
[02:06] <wizzkidd> i have zfs setup for raid0 and my backups save to that location
[02:06] <daftykins> RAID 0? you've got to be kidding
[02:07] <wizzkidd> sorry, RAID1
[02:07] <daftykins> i'm going to sleep now, DR has nothing to do with that setup :>
[02:07] <wizzkidd> ok
[10:17] <brobostigon> morning boys and girls.
[13:10] <foobarry> brrrr
[16:00] <knightwise> hey peeps
[16:08] <zmoylan-pi> i think everyone is out looting, pillaging and christmas shopping
[16:09] <knightwise> lol
[16:09] <knightwise> its not even december yet !
[16:09] <knightwise> I did my (company) xmass shopping
[16:10] <knightwise> bought a surface pro 4
[16:10] <zmoylan-pi> the early looter gets no concussion :-P
[16:12] <knightwise> true. I'm shopping online this year
[16:12] <zmoylan-pi> try not to get burned sipping your cocoa :-)
[16:13] <knightwise> Been to Aachen today
[16:13] <knightwise> too crowded for my case
[16:13] <knightwise> my taste
[16:29] <sebsebseb> hi
[16:49] <knightwise> hey sebsebseb
[16:52] <sebsebseb> knightwise: seems can get mouse and keyboard working on Ubuntu phone via a device
[16:53] <knightwise> via what device ?
[16:55] <sebsebseb> knightwise: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pur-e0eZR80
[16:55] * sebsebseb is thinking of buying an otg device now
[16:55] <sebsebseb> hub I should say
[16:58] <SuperEngineer> wow! I've always wanted to a device and device working on device via a device ;-)
[16:58] <SuperEngineer> to ^ have
[17:00] <sebsebseb> SuperEngineer: yeah it's a way to have the mouse and keyboard working, before the real convergence comes I guess
[17:00] <sebsebseb> hence needing to to use certain things
[20:50] <wizzkidd> hi i recently performed a reinstallation of ubuntu 15.10 over the top of my current 15.10 install which I was having problems with. I'm just reinstalling some of the programs I had previously, however I think my previous OS had a newer kernel, uname -r shows me "4.2.0-040200-generic" but I think when I compile anything, it is using the currently installed kernel which is "4.2.0-18-generic". Can anyone assist me out of this sti
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[09:06] <martin04112015> kann mir jemand helfen und mir sagen wie mann unter ubuntu im terminal einen usb stick bootfähig macht ??
[09:07] <bekks> Nein, immer noch nicht.
[09:07] <bekks> Du hast gestern alle Antworten zu dem Thema bekommen.
[11:11] <Guest8027> ls
[11:12] <_moep_> permission denied
[11:19] <Guest8027> HELP
[11:33] <freakyy> da is er wieder weg ;D
[11:33] <freakyy> sagtmal isses eigetnlich ok wenn man die proposed updates installiert? :D
[11:33] <freakyy> weil dann hab ich latest gnome
[11:34] <freakyy> oder zumindest .18 .. naja ... und dann ahb ich noch das gnome3 ppa geadded
[11:34] <freakyy> hoffe mal ich zerschiess nix ;D
[11:34] <Frickelpit> freakyy: lies dir im wiki lieber mal durch, was proposed ist und was fremdquellen sind
[11:35] <freakyy> ja was fremdquellen sind is mir auch klar
[11:35] <freakyy> und proposed sind halt ganz neue aktualisierungen ... die noch von der dev versionen kommen oder so
[11:36] <freakyy> naja ich hab ja ppa-purge für den notfall installiert ;D
[11:36] <freakyy> ok ich muss neu starten ;)
[11:36] <freakyy> bis gleich
[11:56] <martin04112015> servus
[11:56] <martin04112015> kennt sich jemand hier unter ubuntu mit virtuellen maschienen aus ??
[11:58] <freakyy> martin04112015: ich ned ;D
[11:58] <freakyy> bin jetzt mal afk
[11:58] <freakyy> bye all
[11:58] <martin04112015> schade dachte vllt das ich mein problem damit umgehen könnte
[12:03] <nagetier> martin04112015, du solltest dein problem beschreiben
[12:03] <martin04112015> mein windoof hat sich auf meinem laptop verabschiedet.
[12:04] <martin04112015> habe keine cd oder so und müsste jetzt einen bootfähigen stick mit windows iso erstellen unter ubuntu,was aber irgendwie nicht hinhaut oder ich mal wieder zu doof bin.
[12:04] <martin04112015> jetzt dachte ich mit einer virtuellen maschiene mit windows drauf kann ich das problem umgehen
[12:05] <nagetier> martin04112015, das klappt auch unter linux.. moment, schaue mal
[12:05] <martin04112015> ja ich habe eine seite gefunden gehabt mein stick ist im fat32
[12:05] <Approach> Jemand eine idee warum meine nfs freigabe nicht funktioniert? Kriege diese meldung: exportfs: /home/kloos/laravel-cmf does not support NFS export
[12:05] <martin04112015> die dateien von windoof habe ich drauf kopiert auf den stick
[12:06] <martin04112015> aber kriege es nicht hin den usb stick per terminal bootfähig zu machen
[12:07] <nagetier> martin04112015, https://wiki.ubuntuusers.de/Windows-Installation_vom_USB-Stick oder https://wiki.ubuntuusers.de/UNetbootin/Windows-Installations-Stick_erstellen .. Unetbootin sollte das erledigen
[12:08] <martin04112015> ja tut es nicht leider
[12:08] <freakyy> hi nagetier :)
[12:08] <nagetier> martin04112015, ich würde den Stick vorher komplett leeren.. also keine Partition darauf haben
[12:08] <martin04112015> also habe das alles gemacht bis auf per terminal die uefi ein zu fügen auf dem usb stick
[12:08] <nagetier> Hoi freakyy :)
[12:09] <martin04112015> habe ich ja gemacht per gparted formatiert in fat32
[12:09] <freakyy> hab mal ne frage an alle, ubuntu-gnome, gibt es da ne möglichkeit oben die leiste zu verkleinern? gibt es irgend ein besonders gutes theme das man haben sollte für gnome?
[12:09] <martin04112015> dann per unetbootin windows 7 drauf gepackt
[12:09] <martin04112015> aber er ist nicht bootfähig
[12:09] <nagetier> martin04112015, wie gesagt, ich würde denn leer verwenden..
[12:10] <martin04112015> sagt mein laptop es wäre kein betriebssystem drauf
[12:10] <martin04112015> wie meinst du das leer verwenfden ??
[12:10] <nagetier> martin04112015, keine Partiton, also auch keine Formatierung
[12:10] <nagetier> Partition*
[12:10] <martin04112015> einfach löschen oder wie
[12:11] <nagetier> ja, fdisk wäre zB eine Möglichkeit die vorhandene Partition zu entfernen
[12:11] <nagetier> martin04112015, und dann lässt du das eingesetzte Werkzeug das erstellen, was es verlangt
[12:11] <nagetier> in dem Fall Unetbootin
[12:11] <martin04112015> verstehe ich nicht bin neu in der linux welt
[12:11] <martin04112015> so weit bin ich noch nicht
[12:12] <martin04112015> sry
[12:12] <nagetier> martin04112015, alles gut.. lass das Werkzeug für dich den Stick erstellen und greife da nicht selber ein
[12:12] <martin04112015> also mit werkzeug meinst du unetbootin ??
[12:12] <nagetier> jo
[12:13] <freakyy> martin04112015: also mit windows 10 hat das bei mir prima funktioniert ... hab auf meinem laptop jetzt ubuntu15.10 und win10 drauf ;D
[12:13] <freakyy> naja, ubuntu-gnome
[12:14] <martin04112015> ok also ich habe jetzt den usb stick gelöscht dann meinte unetbootin hängen sie den datenträger ein
[12:14] <martin04112015> habe ich gemacht
[12:16] <martin04112015> und daNN KOMMT fehler beim einhängen
[12:16] <martin04112015> einhängen des ortes nicht möglich
[12:17] <nagetier> martin04112015, wenn du die Partition entfernt hast, würde ich den einmal abziehen, 5 Sekunden warten, und wieder einstecken.. schau mal was dann ausgegeben wird
[12:17] <martin04112015> ok
[12:19] <martin04112015> jetzt erkennt unetbootin ihn nicht
[12:19] <David1977> test
[12:19] <martin04112015> er wird auch nicht automatisch auf dem arbeitstisch angezeigt
[12:19] <martin04112015> also desktop
[12:20] <nagetier> martin04112015, das ist ok so.. ist ja keine Partition mehr vorhanden
[12:20] <nagetier> warum Unetbootin den jetzt nicht findet ist mir allerdings auch gerade ein Rätzel
[12:20] <martin04112015> das sit ja mein problem
[12:21] <martin04112015> er muss im fat32 oder ntfs geschrieben sein dann erkennt er ihn
[12:21] <martin04112015> oder leigt es daran das ich ubuntu mate habe ??
[12:23] <nagetier> martin04112015, ne
[12:23] <martin04112015> und jetzt dachte ich wenn ich eine virtuelle maschiene nehme und da von der iso windows installiere habe ich da ja dann windows drauf
[12:23] <martin04112015> und dara
[12:24] <martin04112015> darin erstelle ich dann einen bootfähigen usb stick
[12:24] <nagetier> bin auch gerade am lesen.. ab und zu war das etwas tricky, insbesondere wenn man das nicht regelmäßig macht.. aber ein Windows brauchst du definitiv nicht um dir einen Windows-Installationsstick zu erstellen
[12:24] <martin04112015> mhh ok
[12:24] <martin04112015> weil ich sitze seit gestern 14uhr hier und kriege nix hin
[12:24] <martin04112015> habe es im ntfs versucht im fat32
[12:25] <martin04112015> über unetbootin
[12:25] <nagetier> martin04112015, kannst du natürlich machen, evtl wird das Windows in der VM ja auch später mal noch benötigt.. musst du wissen, ob du den Aufwand betreiben möchtest
[12:25] <martin04112015> aber immer sagt mir mein laptop es ist kein betriebssystem auf dem stick
[12:25] <martin04112015> ja habe virtual box installiert
[12:25] <nagetier> martin04112015, welches Windows ist das denn genau, und soll der UEFI zu booten sein?
[12:26] <martin04112015> finde es aber nirgends im reiter oben unter anwendungen
[12:26] <martin04112015> ist windows 7 64bit
[12:26] <martin04112015> müsste uefi haben
[12:26] <martin04112015> und da weiss ich nicht wie ich das über das terminal mache
[12:28] <nagetier> martin04112015, https://www.thomas-krenn.com/de/wiki/Windows_7_UEFI_Boot_Stick_unter_Ubuntu_erstellen versuche mal das Vorgehen.. UEFI ist ein wenig mehr Aufwand
[12:28] <martin04112015> das ist für mich als neuling sehr sehr tricky
[12:28] <martin04112015> ok schaue ich mir an
[12:29] <Approach> Warum kann man den keine NFS freigabe machen in einem verschlüsselt home folder *lach
[12:34] <nagetier> martin04112015, da hattest dann auch recht, der Stick MUSS fat32 formatiert sein.. sorry, das lässt sich allerdings schnell wieder herstellen
[12:34] <martin04112015> habe ich gemacht damit kenne ich mich ja jetzt aus hehe
[12:34] <nagetier> :)
[12:36] <bekks> Approach: Weil der NFS daemon startet bevor der User das Homedir entschlüsselt hat.
[12:37] <Approach> bekks: kann man diesen "daemon" nicht einfach restarten :D
[12:37] <bekks> Approach: Klar kann man das.
[12:38] <nagetier> auch die Reihenfolge sollte sich doch anpassen lassen?
[12:39] <bekks> Schwierig. Weil der Userlogin kein Daemon ist, sondern eine Aktion eines Nutzers nachdem alle Dienste schon lange gestartet wurden.
[12:40] <Approach> bekks: siehe other notes... https://docs.vagrantup.com/v2/synced-folders/nfs.html
[12:40] <Approach> deswegen bin ich ein bisschen irritiert
[12:40] <bekks> Approach: In other notes steht exakt was ich gerade sagte.
[12:40] <Approach> moment... ich probier mal einfach aus
[12:41] <Approach> ..."There is no workaround for this other than sharing a directory which isn't encrypted."
[12:41] <bekks> Richtig.
[12:42] <bekks> Oder aber du startest den nfsd MANUELL NACH dem USerlogin.
[12:42] <bekks> Wobei der sich dann auf den Bauch legt sobald der User sich abmeldet.
[12:47] <freakyy> hm ich find kein gutes theme für ubuntu-gnome
[12:47] <Approach> hmm das neustarten hat nicht funktioniert... exportfs: /home/kloos/laravel-cmf does not support NFS export
[12:47] <freakyy> is das, das default is, schon das was ubuntu-gnome ausgesucht hat für die ubuntu user?
[12:47] <freakyy> wahrschienlich schon sieht aber ned so gut aus
[12:47] <Approach> egal dann lege ich es in einem anderen folder ab
[12:47] <freakyy> habs aber jetzt mal auf dunkel umgestellt
[12:47] <freakyy> sieht wenigstends etwas besser aus
[12:47] <freakyy> nur is die status leiste oben sehr gross
[12:47] <freakyy> leider
[12:48] <bekks> freakyy: Wovon redest Du?
[12:48] <freakyy> bekks: ubuntu-gnome :)
[12:48] <freakyy> und das theme
[12:48] <bekks> Ah. OK. Hab ich nie gesehen.
[12:50] <freakyy> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8Rpb-wKZrGw <-- hier isn video ... von mir wo ich gerade aufgenommen hab ;D ... mit ubuntu-gnome
[12:50] <freakyy> die gnome ppa hab ich aber inzwischen wieder gepurged
[12:50] <bekks> Werd ich mir nicht angucken :)
[12:50] <freakyy> hat mir nicht gefallen
[12:50] <freakyy> bekks: ok ;P
[12:52] <freakyy> weechat is cool ;D
[12:53] <freakyy> hey stevieh :)
[12:53] <stevieh> ?
[12:53] <freakyy> sag nur hall
[12:53] <freakyy> o
[12:53] <stevieh> ahso
[12:53] <freakyy> so mal mails checken
[12:54] <bekks> Das hier ist kein Twitter und kein Facebook.
[13:06] <martin04112015> klappt nicht
[13:06] <freakyy> bekks: ok :P
[13:06] <martin04112015> mein laptop sagt immer noch es wurde kein betriebssystem gefunden
[13:08] <martin04112015> ahh mist habe einen fehler gemacht mom ^^
[13:11] <freakyy> martin04112015: eigentlich sollte unetbootin den stick schon so beschreiben dass der bootbar ist. bist du auch sicher dass er von dem stick versucht zu lesen?
[13:11] <freakyy> und nicht vonner eingelegten cd
[13:11] <freakyy> oder sowas
[13:12] <martin04112015> ja ich drück immer f12 komme in die boot optionen und da nehme ich meinen usb stick
[13:13] <freakyy> ok hm, also bei mir hat das funktioniert
[13:13] <freakyy> mit windows 10 und allen ubuntu versionen 15.10, 14.04 und 15.10-gnome
[13:13] <freakyy> versuch evtl. mal die dd version
[13:13] <freakyy> vom brennen der iso
[13:13] <freakyy> auf usb stick
[13:14] <freakyy> gibts ja anleitungen
[13:14] <nagetier> martin04112015, wählst du dann auch UEFI [Stick] im Bootmenue?
[13:14] <martin04112015> ja ich probiere die andere anleitung nochmal die wegen der uefi da habe ich einen fatalen fehler gemacht
[13:15] <martin04112015> habe den ganzen ordner kopiert und unbenannt nicht wie da beschrieben die einzelne datei
[13:15] <martin04112015> ^^
[13:16] <nagetier> martin04112015, und synce den Stick, bevor den aussteckst.. oder fahre halt das System herunter ohne ihn zu entnehmen
[13:16] <martin04112015> ok mache ich
[13:24] <freakyy> der arme martin
[13:24] <freakyy> ;)
[13:26] <martin04112015> hat nicht geklappt
[13:26] <freakyy> hab grad gesagt der arme martin ;)
[13:26] <freakyy> das sollte eigentlich gehn
[13:27] <freakyy> also bei mir hat alles funktioniert nur hab ich halt ned windows 7 benutzt
[13:28] <martin04112015> ja ich besorge mir jetzt mal windows 10
[13:28] <freakyy> auja
[13:28] <freakyy> windows 10 ;D
[13:28] <freakyy> das einzige problem - du müsstest zuerst den key upgraden glaub ich
[13:28] <nagetier> martin04112015, "Für die Verwendung mit einem UEFI-BIOS ist eine 64Bit Version erforderlich. Bei Windows 7 muss das ISO-Abbild bzw. die CD/DVD zusätzlich das Service Pack 1 enthalten." .. ist das so?
[13:28] <martin04112015> ne ging immer mit dem key von meinen windows 7
[13:28] <freakyy> weil wenn du windows 7 upgradest auf win10, wird der key automatisch geupgraded. solltest du dann ein monat nicht downgraden wird der key permanent zum win10 key
[13:29] <freakyy> martin04112015: ok ;D
[13:29] <martin04112015> ja das hatte ich ja schon
[13:29] <martin04112015> deswegen ist der schon auf windows 10 geupgraded
[13:30] <freakyy> was kann ich machen wenn meine musik die ich abspiele ständig hängt also zerkratzt und so weiter ... evtl. nice hochschrauben von rhythm box?
[13:30] <martin04112015> dauert ja nur 28min ^^
[13:30] <freakyy> martin dann kannste natürlich auch kein win7 mehr damit installiern
[13:31] <freakyy> glaub ich
[13:31] <martin04112015> ja gut aber das booten müsste ja trotzdem funktionieren
[13:31] <freakyy> soviel ich weiss werden die keys dann geupgraded und sind nichtmehr für die alte version gültig
[13:31] <freakyy> ja klar ich sag nur das wär dann wohl dein nächstes prob gewesen ;D
[13:31] <martin04112015> gut das ich es jetzt schon durch euch erfahren habe ^^
[13:31] <freakyy> ;D
[13:32] <nagetier> martin04112015, SP1 ist aber im ISO integriert?
[13:32] <martin04112015> das erklärt natürlich wieso ich windows7 nicht über die microsoft seite downloaden konnte und die mir gesagt haben der key ist ungültig ^1
[13:32] <martin04112015> ^^
[13:32] <freakyy> martin ;D
[13:32] <freakyy> evtl. haste auch ne blöde iso erwischt
[13:32] <martin04112015> ja beim windows7 iso
[13:33] <martin04112015> das kann auch sein das die kaputt ist
[13:33] <martin04112015> lade mal windows 7 herunter
[13:33] <martin04112015> und probiere es dann noch mal
[13:33] <martin04112015> in 25min kann es dann los gehen ^^
[13:44] <martin04112015> microsoft hat bestimmt die ganzen windows 7 iso kaputt gemacht das sich jeder windows 10 kaufen muss ^^
[13:45] <smeexs> martin04112015 warum schaltest du uefi und secureboot nicht einfach ab , windows 7,8,10 kannst du auch ohne uefi/secureboot installieren
[13:45] <martin04112015> weil es diese option im meinem bios nicht gibt leider
[13:46] <smeexs> welcher pc/laptop ist das genau
[13:46] <martin04112015> laptop ist ein toshiba p775
[13:46] <smeexs> war das ein neuer pc mit vorinstalliertem windows 10
[13:47] <martin04112015> also toshiba satellite p775 sry
[13:48] <smeexs> du must erst secureboot abschalten dann kannst du uefi abschalten
[13:49] <smeexs> der pc is von 2013 , da muss man es abschalten können
[13:49] <smeexs> erst bei neuen windows 10 rechnern überlässt es microsoft den hersteller ob man uefi abdrehen kann oder nicht
[13:49] <martin04112015> finde aber keine option in meinem bios die so heisst
[13:50] <smeexs> unter scurity
[13:50] <freakyy> ach ja ich musste secure boot abschalten er sagte mir invalid os
[13:50] <martin04112015> ja da steht nur überall was von bios password hdd1 password usw
[13:51] <smeexs> selbst wenn man alles richtig macht , win und ubuntu korrekt unter uefi installiert
[13:51] <smeexs> hauts einem bei einem grub update das grub zusammen , hatte ich schon auf 3 verschiedenen pcs
[13:52] <smeexs> beim 1. mal konte ich es fixen , beim zweiten man nach dem selben vorgehen nicht , dann wurde mir das zu blöd seit dem schalt ich das immer aus
[13:52] <martin04112015> deswegen habe ich es jetzt so gemacht auf meinem schwächeren pc linux und auf dem laptop zum zocken windows
[13:54] <smeexs> schalte es einfach aus und installier win dann ubuntu , da brauchst eigentlich nur weiter/ok klicken dafür
[13:54] <martin04112015> ich kann es nicht ausschalten
[13:54] <smeexs> der hier hat den selben pc wie du http://bit.ly/1kYWpl2 und konnte uefi ausschalten
[13:54] <martin04112015> ok mom
[13:55] <smeexs> bis jetzt hatte ich noch keinen pc unter den finger wo man es nicht ausschalten kann
[13:55] <smeexs> ein neu gekaufter win10 rechner war allerdings noch nicht dabei
[13:56] <martin04112015> finde das bei mir niocht
[13:57] <smeexs> was findest du nicht
[13:57] <smeexs> den punkt scure
[13:57] <smeexs> security
[13:57] <martin04112015> doch aber das steht nichts von dem was der beschreibt
[14:01] <smeexs> schau dir dazu videos auf youtube an , manchmal ist das unter advanced zu finden , manchmal unter einem anderen namen
[14:02] <martin04112015> ok
[14:02] <martin04112015> danke mache ich mal
[14:07] <smeexs> oder lade dir bei toshiba das original benutzerhandbuch für deinen laptop runter , dort sollte auch was zu uefi/secure stehen
[14:07] <smeexs> das ist ein windows 7 rechner , da muss man das abdrehen können
[14:08] <martin04112015> ok danke probiere das ernst gleich mal mit windows10 aus wenn das nicht geht mache ich mich an die uefi ran
[14:40] <martin04112015> windowes 10 geht auch nicht ^^
[14:42] <freakyy> hmm
[14:42] <freakyy> komisch
[14:42] <freakyy> also ich weiss ned weiter
[14:42] <martin04112015> ich auch nicht mehr
[14:42] <freakyy> was sagt er? wieder no operating system found?
[14:42] <martin04112015> jop
[14:42] <freakyy> gugg mal ob du auch ganz sicher von dem usb stick bootest
[14:43] <martin04112015> ja wähle den ja über boot option selber aus
[14:43] <freakyy> ok
[14:43] <freakyy> dann keine ahnung
[14:45] <martin04112015> ich auch nicht
[14:46] <martin04112015> jetzt kann ich das nur noch mit einer virtuellen maschiene versuchen
[14:46] <smeexs> hast du den boot stick überhaupt richtig erstellt , mit uefi und allen drum und dran nach anleitung ? vielleicht liegts auch am downgegradeten unnetbootin
[14:46] <smeexs> wie gesagt , ich würd als erstes mal uefi abschalten
[14:46] <martin04112015> ja geht ja nicht
[14:46] <martin04112015> es gibt nirgends diese scheiss option
[14:47] <martin04112015> bin alles einzelnd durchgegangen
[14:47] <smeexs> welche option gibt es nicht
[14:47] <smeexs> du musst scho bisl genauer sein mit deinen angaben
[14:47] <martin04112015> ja boot option oder uefi nirgends steht was davon
[14:48] <smeexs> das wir in einem untermenü versteck sein
[14:49] <martin04112015> bin alle durchgegangen
[14:49] <Azi> Hallo Leute! Ich habe eine Maschine, die ein 32-bit UEFI hat und nichts anderes zum booten. Online gibt es ein paar Anleitungen, diese sind allerdings nicht genau zutreffend auf meinen Fall und als Anfänger fehlen mir die Kenntnisse, diese Anleitungen auf meinen Fall zu übertragen. Könnte mir jemand helfen Ubuntu 15.10 auf dem 32-bit uefi System zum booten zu bringen?
[14:50] <smeexs> martin lade dir hier das benutzerhandbuch und schlag mal nach
[14:51] <martin04112015> ok
[14:51] <smeexs> http://www.toshiba.at/innovation/generic/SUPPORT_PORTAL/
[14:51] <smeexs> azi genaue pc beschreibung/name , am besten model nummer
[14:52] <smeexs> und wieso 15.10 ? als neuling/anfänger solltest du besser eine lts version nehmen --> 14.04
[14:53] <Azi> Ich möchte 15.10 benutzen, da ich Treiber benötige (WLAN), die erst ab Kernel 4.0 funktionieren, besser noch Kernel 4.2
[14:53] <smeexs> das ist ein argument
[14:53] <Azi> und diesen möchte ich mir nicht ohne eine Internetverbindung installieren müssen auf dem Teil, als ich vorher mal Debian dadrauf hatte war das ein Albtraum, da kein make installiert war
[14:54] <Azi> da musste ich dann alle möglichen .debs dpkg -i
[14:54] <Azi> und die deps hörten nicht mehr auf
[14:54] <Azi> Jedenfalls, 15.10 idealerweise haha
[14:54] <Azi> Und die Modellnummer ist Asus X205TA, https://www.asus.com/us/Notebooks/ASUS_EeeBook_X205TA/specifications/
[14:55] <martin04112015> also im benutzerhandbuch steht auch nichts wie man das ausschalten kann
[14:55] <Azi> Ich würde dir gern zurückwhispern, allerdings weiß ich nicht wie, das schlage ich gleich mal nach :)
[14:58] <martin04112015> und von meinem desktop pc der cpu unterstützt keine virtuiellen maschienen muhahaha
[14:58] <martin04112015> das wars es dann wohl
[15:01] <nagetier> martin04112015, dein Stick kann auch booten, hattest das zuvor schon getestet? Es gibt Sticks, die können das nicht
[15:02] <smeexs> gib mir mal den link vom benutzerhandbuch oder lade es auf http://workupload.com hoch wenn verlinken nicht geht
[15:02] <martin04112015> oki
[15:02] <smeexs> martin meinte ich
[15:02] <smeexs> kk
[15:02] <Azi> Da nur die 64-bit Version von Ubuntu einen EFI Bootloader hat wird das resultierende System im sog. mixed mode booten, das heißt 32-bit boot loader -> 64-bit OS. Dies sollte allerdings kein größeres Problem darstellen, da rEFInd (vielleicht auch GRUB 2) dies unterstützen. Leider schlug die Installation von Ubuntu bisher immer fehl und zwar immer beim grub-install Teil. Hier wurde wahrscheinlich versucht, ein 64-bit GRUB zu installi
[15:02] <Azi> Ich weiß leider nicht, was ich daran ändern kann
[15:03] <smeexs> ja das ist ein ziemliches mistding dieser eepc
[15:05] <martin04112015> http://workupload.com/file/ZzPXHdqR
[15:05] <Azi> Sehr schade auch, dass ich mit dem Produktschlüssel für Windows 8.1, der mit dem Laptop kam, kein Windows 8.1 installieren kann, auch mit Hilfe vom Microsoft und Asus Support nicht. Daher wäre die letzte Option, den Laptop zu Asus zu schicken und mir wieder Windows 8.1 draufmachen zu lassen. Dies wäre natürlich, auch wegen des damit verbundenen Preises, suboptimal, allerdings auch eine Option.
[15:11] <martin04112015> was ich halt komisch finde das er mir unten bei unetbootin immer anzeugt /dev/sdb oder sowas
[15:11] <smeexs> azi dein problem ist da beschrieben http://bit.ly/1lmETqo
[15:11] <smeexs> ach der is schon weg
[15:12] <martin04112015> ich mache mir jetzt mal ubuntu auf meinen stick u nd versuche den mal zu booten mit meinem laptop
[15:14] <martin04112015> bis gleichj
[15:20] <martin04112015> irgendwas stimmt nicht
[15:20] <martin04112015> ich kan nnicht mal ubuntu booten
[15:21] <smeexs> hast du das mit dem downgegradeten unetbootin erstellt ?
[15:21] <martin04112015> ne
[15:21] <martin04112015> wie kann ich das machen
[15:22] <smeexs> ?? wie hast du dann win überhaupt auf den stick gebracht ? das geht doch nur mit einer älteren version
[15:23] <martin04112015> habe eine version von der interentseite genommen
[15:24] <smeexs> das wird dann eh die ältere sein sonst hättest du windows gar nicht zur auswahl
[15:24] <martin04112015> habe ich ja garnicht
[15:24] <martin04112015> habe einfach die iso eingefügt und unten meinen usb stick
[15:25] <smeexs> das kann nicht gehen , hast du dir die anleitung nicht durchgelesen auf ubuntuusers
[15:25] <smeexs> also mit windows kann das nicht gehn
[15:25] <martin04112015> ok
[15:25] <martin04112015> aber mit ubuntu geht es auch micht
[15:25] <martin04112015> doch habe ich gelesen
[15:26] <smeexs> nimm nen anderen stick
[15:26] <smeexs> ka was du mit dem sick schon alles gemacht hast
[15:27] <martin04112015> habe schon 2 verschieden ausprobiert
[15:27] <smeexs> haste gelesen aber kein altes unnetboot genommen keine partitionen erstellt und kein uefi eingefügt ..
[15:28] <martin04112015> woher soll ich wissen ob die version die ich jetzt habe alt ist oder nicht ??
[15:28] <martin04112015> und uefi habe ich probiert
[15:28] <martin04112015> und wenn du es doch weisst wie es genau funkioniert dann helf mir doch
[15:28] <smeexs> windows zur auswahl --> alt , windows nicht zur auswahl --> neu
[15:29] <martin04112015> ja also muss ich ein neues haben und wie kann ich unetbootin downgraden ??
[15:29] <smeexs> steht alles auf der ubuntuusers seite
[15:29] <martin04112015> ok
[15:30] <smeexs> wir kannst du das gelesen haben wenn du das nicht weiß -.- ich hab das gestern nur überflogen und weiß es
[15:31] <martin04112015> ja aber ich weiss doch nicht wo ich eine alte version habe
[15:31] <smeexs> wenn du im bios auch so gründlich schaust wundert es mich nicht dass du secure boot und uefi nicht abschalten kannst
[15:31] <martin04112015> jop
[15:32] <smeexs> das steht doch ganz am anfang
[15:32] <smeexs> https://wiki.ubuntuusers.de/UNetbootin/Windows-Installations-Stick_erstellen
[15:33] <martin04112015> ok lese es mir nochmal durch die seite
[15:34] <smeexs> ich würd eher im bios genau schauen , alle punkte anwählen untermenüs suchen wenns nicht anders geht
[15:34] <koegs> sagt er andauernd, er würde lesen :D
[15:35] <smeexs> net bös sein aber ich glaub nicht dass du das mit dem uefi stick erstellen zam bringst
[15:35] <martin04112015> tja dann habe ich pech und muss mir euinfach windows neu kaufen fertig
[15:35] <smeexs> ja echt , schad um die zeit
[15:36] <smeexs> oder du kaust dir ne cd und brennst dir eine
[15:36] <martin04112015> kann halt nicht jeder linuxer werden
[15:40] <smeexs> was hat das mit linux zu tun , der grund warum du und viele andere da ewig herum scheissen müssen ist uefi/securboot (was mmn genau der grund von uefi ist) und das gehört meines wissens nicht zu linux
[15:41] <martin04112015> ja und wenn ich doch sage das ich alles einzeln durchgegangen bin und in meinem bios von dem ganzen scheiss nichts drinn steht heisst es gleich es liegt an mir und nicht am bios lol
[15:41] <smeexs> der arme azi hatte dazu noch ein tpm modul im laptop (trusted plattform modul)
[15:42] <smeexs> ja weil es keinen w7 laptop gibt wo man das nicht abschalten kann
[15:42] <martin04112015> ja woher willst du das genau wissen ?? nicht jedes bios ist gleich
[15:44] <martin04112015> genau wie in der beschreibung steht das ich meinen usb stick im ntfs formatieren aber selbst mein jetzt älteres unetbootin mein stick dann nicht findet
[15:46] <freakyy> am schlimmsten is win10 das ständig den bootsektor wieder übeschreibt
[15:46] <freakyy> aber da muss man halt im windows den bootloader fixen
[15:46] <freakyy> dass er linux bootloader nimmt
[15:46] <freakyy> ;D
[15:47] <smeexs> weil sich die zum opt out verpflichtet haben oder wurden
[15:49] <smeexs> bei windows 10 allerdings überlässt es ms dem hersteller ob er opt out anbietet oder nicht , aktiviert muss es seit w8 immer sein wenn der pc mit windows kommt
[15:51] <martin04112015> und woran liegt es das mein jetzt älteres unetbootin mein stick mit ntfs formatierung nicht erkennt ?? obwohl so in der beschreibung beschreiben ??
[15:59] <smeexs> na endlich , handy am 23. geladen , jeetzt noch 9% akku ,, google dienste 2%
[15:59] <smeexs> ups falsche baustelle
[16:01] <smeexs> ich weiß nicht was du schon alles gemacht hast, google doch mal danach , da gibt es einige punkte die du machen kannst
[16:02] <smeexs> normal googelt man zuerst , macht sich schlau , und dann wenn man nicht weiter kommt oder was nicht versteht fragt man hier nach
[16:02] <btcdwed> was fürn handy hast du :)
[16:02] <btcdwed> 4000mah?
[16:02] <btcdwed> :P
[16:02] <smeexs> moto g2 1.gen
[16:03] <btcdwed> with stock android?
[16:03] <btcdwed> sry
[16:03] <btcdwed> ich chatte mutli sprachen
[16:03] <btcdwed> hehe
[16:04] <smeexs> so wie ichs gekauft hab , fast reinem android , wennst noch mehr wissen willst sollt ma das im ot machen ^^
[16:05] <btcdwed> was is ot
[16:05] <btcdwed> PM? anderer chan?
[16:05] <smeexs> allerdings muss ich jetzt dann gleich noch was einkaufen
[16:05] <smeexs> offtopic channel , link im topic (mach /topic )
[16:06] <btcdwed> k ;)
[16:15] <martin04112015> also ich gebe es auf mit der anleitung gewht es auch nicht
[16:28] <jokrebel> wo sind denn die Wörterbücher von aspell?
[16:51] <martin04112015> kann doch nicht sein das das nicht geht
[16:51] <martin04112015> das ich nicht einmal ubuntu bootfähig kriege
[17:00] <FreakErn> hi, ist es möglich eine netzwerkbrücke zu erstellen, sodass das eth0 interface weiterhin internet hat?
[17:04] <FreakErn> wenn ich eine br0 brücke in den interfaces hinterlege die eth0 nutzt, dann kriegt eth0 kein netzwerkzugriff. kann mir da vielleicht jmd helfen?
[17:53] <smeexs> re
[17:55] <FreakErn> kann mir hier jmd mit ner netzwerkbrücke helfen? mein host ist dann im netzwerk nicht mehr erreichbar und der hat dann auch kein internet, wenn ich die brücke in die interfaces packe
[17:58] <smeexs> eines is mir noch eingefall martin04112015 hast du im bios einen punkt "os select"
[18:06] <martin04112015> weiss ich gerade garnicht
[18:14] <smeexs> na dann schau bei gelegenheit , fall ja wähl den punkt "other" , damit sollte zumindestens mal secureboot aus sein
[18:19] <martin04112015> mache ich
[18:32] <martin04112015> gucke gleich zocke noch fifa16 auf ps4
[18:33] <FreakErn> kann mir einer sagen ob ich zwei netzwerkkarten in einem rechner haben kann, eine für den rechner selbst und eine für qemu vms?
[18:35] <frostschutz> haben können kannst du viel aber normalerweise braucht man nur eine (physische) netzwerkkarte
[18:36] <FreakErn> das problem ist, wenn ich die netzwerkbrücke auf enp3s0 lege, dann ist enp3s0 im netzwerk nicht mehr anpingbar und der rechner selbsst hat dann kein inet
[18:36] <frostschutz> und ob du dann bridgen oder routen musst hängt davon ab wie die IPs aufgeschaltet sind (wenns ein RZ-Server ist)
[18:36] <FreakErn> respektive udn kein netzwerk
[18:36] <FreakErn> nein, ist ein rechner bei mir zuhause
[18:36] <frostschutz> und du willst bridgen?
[18:37] <FreakErn> da laufen ein paar vms drauf und ich hätte gern eine netzwerkbrücke damit sie zugriff auf das interne netzwerk kriegen
[18:37] <FreakErn> die vms
[18:37] <frostschutz> sobald du eine bridge hast, und dein eth0 device ist teil dieser bridge, dann gibt es das eth0 device im prinzip nicht mehr sondern das device ist dann die bridge selbst und IP usw. musst du dann auf der bridge konfigurieren statt auf dem eth0 device
[18:38] <FreakErn> okay... das erklärt so einiges
[18:39] <FreakErn> dann check ich mal ob ich von der bridge ip auf den rechner komme, aber der rechner selbst hat dann kein internet
[18:39] <FreakErn> vielen dank schon mal... :)
[18:56] <FreakErn> frostschutz seit über einem jahr ärgere ich mich jetzt mit der netzwerkbrücke rum, weil mein eth0 immer statisch war und ich immer veruscht hatte darauf zuzugreifen und meine brücke hatte keinen dns, somit erklären sich alle symptome... verdammt nochmal. vielen lieben dank! ich hatte mir schon eine zweite usb netzwerkkarte besorgt um mir zu behelfen, was andere probleme aufwirft
[19:23] <martin04112015> ne habe ich auch nicht so eine option
[20:24] <kirsten> hallöchen, benutzt jemand von euch Syncthing zum synchronisieren?
[22:21] <LupusE> hi
[23:02] <freakyy> hi all. sagtmal, lohnt es sich einen snapshot von meiner linux partition zu machen?
[23:02] <freakyy> also /
[23:02] <freakyy> mit home etc.
[23:04] <ppq> dateibasierte backups sind in aller regel praktischer
[23:11] <stevieh> wenn man platz hat, lohnt es sich IMHO trotzdem, da man damit sehr schnell recovern kann ;-)
[23:32] <hoemich> Hey! ich würd gern n neues system mit debootstrap installieren. mein befehl ist: sudo debootstrap --variant=wily /mnt https://de.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu. Es bricht ab mit "Can't cd to de.archive.ubuntu.com". Woran liegt das, und wie kann ich das korrigieren?
[23:32] <hoemich> ok. I am dumb :D
[23:33] <hoemich> arch=64 vergessen ;-)
[23:36] <hoemich> und variant da gelassen...
[23:37] <hoemich> quit
[23:38] <freakyy> ok danke
[23:38] <freakyy> für die hilfen (wegen backup)
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[09:48] <melodie> hi
[09:48] <melodie> I want to point to this bug report: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gtk+3.0/+bug/1510709
[09:49] <melodie> because when I found where the issue starts, I changed the title, and now I'd like the status to be changed to medium or high if possible
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2015-11-28-#ubuntu-gnome
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[02:36] <freakyy> yay just got it installed ;D
[02:36] <freakyy> 15.10 ^^
[02:37] <freakyy> not many people here ;)
[02:39] <freakyy> is there any way i can minimize windows oO
[02:39] <freakyy> there is no minimize button
[02:40] <freakyy> only rightclick brings minimize menu ;(
[02:41] <lindol> oh.
[02:41] <lindol> freakyy, are you asian?
[02:41] <lindol> :)
[02:41] <freakyy> no im german
[02:42] <freakyy> and how do i add accounts to epiphany
[02:42] <lindol> oh sorry. :)
[02:42] <lindol> did you install epiphany?
[02:43] <freakyy> its installed by default
[02:43] <freakyy> ok i need to restart my pc
[02:43] <freakyy> u can type something ill see it when i return
[02:46] <freakyy> back :)
[02:49] <freakyy> is there a way i can remove the title bar from firefox in ubuntu-gnome?
[02:49] <freakyy> i was talking about empathy sorry
[02:49] <lindol> freakyy, I have same question from that happening.
[02:49] <freakyy> lindol: ask
[02:49] <lindol> because When i was using 15.04
[02:50] <lindol> Firefox didn't have it.
[02:50] <lindol> oops.
[02:50] <lindol> sorry, I am still find it :) but i can not remove it T_T
[02:51] <freakyy> what do u mean? it was there and u couldnt remove it? so the same problem that i have?
[02:51] <freakyy> because in windows and unity the firefox doesnt have a title bar
[02:51] <lindol> yes
[02:52] <freakyy> but in ubuntu-gnome it has
[03:21] <darkxst> freakyy, you can use online accounts in gnome-control-panel
[03:21] <darkxst> gnome-control-center even
[03:22] <darkxst> I think there is a firefox extension to remove the titlebar, but otherwise you can't
[03:38] <freakyy> ok and how can i switch the icon of a menu entry on the left (favourites)? i installed thunderbird but it uses a wrong icon ... i downloaded the right onenow how do i assign it?
[03:46] <freakyy> ah i found out
[03:46] <freakyy> i installed gnome-support for thunderbird
[03:46] <freakyy> then rebooted and then the icon was there ;D
[03:47] <freakyy> okk and what is this taskbar-icon holder on the lower left
[03:47] <freakyy> cant i put the icons on the upper right like with unity?
[04:09] <freakyy> is there anything someone new to ubuntu-gnome needs to know?
[05:01] <LinStatSDRR> Hello all.
[05:31] <lindol> ㅗㅑ 미ㅣ
[05:31] <lindol> hi all
[12:51] <freakyy> hi all. is there any better theme than the default?
[13:44] <LinDol> haha
[14:15] <LinDol> oh
[14:15] <LinDol> I am watching UFC seoul
[14:15] <LinDol> haha.
[14:16] <LinDol> sorry. :-)
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2015-11-28-#ubuntu-server
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[02:27] <pmatulis> stokachu: ping?
[02:28] <pmatulis> stokachu: hey. with the openstack-installer, where does the juju bootstrap server end up? i can't find it anywhere :)
[02:56] <stokachu> pmatulis: single is in a container
[03:03] <pmatulis> stokachu: i looked at the containers that got built on the node that the installer grabbed. i don't see a ~/.juju anywhere
[03:07] <pmatulis> i want to be able to do 'juju ssh landscape-server/0'
[09:37] <eatingthenight> any way that i can mount a new drive to something like /. say / is currently a 8GB volume and I want to mount a 500GB volume on / without losing any data or having to reboot
[09:37] <bekks> You cant.
[09:39] <lordievader> Good morning.
[09:39] <lordievader> eatingthenight: Do you use LVM?
[09:40] <eatingthenight> lordievader: let me check... just started at a new job and am really not liking how the ops guys have these servers setup
[09:40] <bekks> 11"not really liking" :D
[09:41] <lordievader> That is inevitable :P
[09:41] <bekks> Thats not a valuable argument for changing things in a production environment :)
[09:41] <bekks> On a server, 8GB / is most likely more than enough :)
[09:42] <lordievader> Agreed.
[09:43] <eatingthenight> i'm not going to argue with them it's just not how i have set them up in the past
[09:43] <bekks> Yes. And maybe your way of setting up servers doesnt match the requirements of your new job.
[09:44] <lordievader> Anyhow, to more or less answer your question. If you do not use lvm your idea is (likely) not going to work.
[09:44] <bekks> That is what I meant with "not really liking" is not a justification for anything else but a personal opinion.
[09:46] <eatingthenight> ok so instead of trying to do the above i'll give an example. I am using docker and when pulling down containers i'll eat up the 8GB provided for / fast. Would you instead partition another drive and make a storage volume and configure docker in the instance to use that storage volume?
[09:47] <lordievader> I'll just compare it to our lxc setup. Each lxc container has its own logical volume.
[09:48] <bekks> eatingthenight: I'm not using partitions for a decade now, I am using LVM.
[09:49] <bekks> And I am using setups not requiring insanely large / volumes.
[09:53] <eatingthenight> is it common to setup the root mount as 'none on / type tmpfs'
[09:54] <bekks> Depends on the setup.
[09:56] <eatingthenight> hmm guess i'm really not sure how mounting with a virtual filesystem all works
[09:56] <eatingthenight> i'll have to read up
[09:56] <disposable> eatingthenight: look up overlayfs and have a look here - http://askubuntu.com/questions/109413/how-do-i-use-overlayfs
[09:56] <bekks> eatingthenight: Maybe you should investigate the entire setup of your production servers before changing it.
[09:57] <eatingthenight> bekks: i mean i am i haven't changed everything yet. but we have virtual 0 docs on the setup
[09:57] <lordievader> Investigate why things are set up the way they are.
[09:57] <disposable> bekks: also, what bekks said. (i've personally never had more than 4GB for /)
[09:57] <eatingthenight> i read all the provided ones already
[12:34] <bekks> eatingthenight: Well, then you have to investigate how things are setup.
[12:35] <bekks> eatingthenight: Forget the docs of your admin, grab a ssh shell and start investigating things.
[15:31] <sexywoodenspoon> Afternoon all! Postfix question here- Looking for a way to log all email addresses that have received an email. At the moment I've got a small postfix server with forwarding set up (no mailboxes). Got a wildcard set up to forward all mail to one address for a domain and it'd be really cool if I could log those email addresses that receive an email to a file... if that's possible. Anyone got any id
[15:31] <sexywoodenspoon> eas?
[15:43] <mrbrdo> hey guys. I have a /64 block of IPv6s and want to bind all of them to my ubuntu server. I only found instructions on how to add specific IPs but not how to add the whole range. Since these are billions of IPs, is there a way to add the whole range instead of individual IPs? Could someone point me in the right direction?
[17:14] <JuanDaugherty> https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/apache2/+question/259165 anybody know how to deal with that?
[17:14] <JuanDaugherty> (aside from the obvious: build the module myself and adjust the config manually)
[17:22] <JuanDaugherty> wow it looks like there's nothing ubuntu for building apache modules
[17:22] <JuanDaugherty> just a branded apache-dev with nuthin to go with it
[17:32] <maxb> JuanDaugherty: I was curious, so I looked around. Looks like imagemap was demoted from the 'most' set to the 'never build unless explicitly requested' set during 2.3 development
[17:32] <JuanDaugherty> does ubuntu have anything specific to it for building apache modules?
[17:33] <JuanDaugherty> (ie. specific to ubuntu)
[17:34] <maxb> Seems unlikely, the Ubuntu packages aren't modified much compared to Debian
[17:34] <JuanDaugherty> what one expects is that apache2-dev would be coordinated with the apache usage in the distro
[17:34] <JuanDaugherty> acknowledged
[17:35] <maxb> I don't understand what you mean about 'coordinated'. There is an apache2-dev package and it contains apxs, so..... what?
[17:40] <JuanDaugherty> ok, it's been a few years since I build apache modules
[17:41] <JuanDaugherty> coordinated basically means documentation and fitting the thing within ubuntus offerings
[17:41] <JuanDaugherty> *ubuntu's
[17:42] <JuanDaugherty> *built
[17:44] <quantic> JuanDaugherty: the apache2-dev package contains the dev headers and apxs2 binary. Also has the debhelper stuff. What else are you expecting to be there?
[17:45] <JuanDaugherty> well I'm familiar with the apache build env
[17:46] <JuanDaugherty> if the concept of ubuntu coordination with the pkgs it redistributes is too much, peccavi
[17:46] <JuanDaugherty> and nvm
[17:47] <quantic> JuanDaugherty: The problem isn't necessarily the concept, it's how you're communicating it.
[17:47] <JuanDaugherty> ah, good
[17:47] <quantic> JuanDaugherty: But hey, if you want to be snarky instead of explain, that's your right, of course.
[17:48] <JuanDaugherty> well conceptual clarity is paramount
[17:48] <JuanDaugherty> clarity/cogency
[17:49] <maxb> I really have no idea what you are wanting right now, you seem to have veered off into a deeply abstract discussion
[17:50] <JuanDaugherty> no worries
[17:50] <quantic> ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
[17:52] <JuanDaugherty> but here's another way of putting it
[17:53] <JuanDaugherty> should I on the base of my knowledge of apache internals and by virtue of having installed the appropriate pkgs in synaptic
[17:53] <JuanDaugherty> be able to get the source for the module, move it into a file structure of the pkg(s) or find that it was included with one
[17:54] <JuanDaugherty> and then build and move the move the module to the working config on the same machine in a straightforward way?
[17:55] <JuanDaugherty> s/move the//
[17:55] <JuanDaugherty> alternatively
[17:55] <maxb> If you happened to be an expert in the use of apxs, you could probably manage it
[17:55] <maxb> Otherwise, probably not
[17:56] <JuanDaugherty> is there any documentation for the use of the apache2-dev module or for building apache modules which ubuntu isn't distributing?
[17:57] <JuanDaugherty> so as I say clarity and cogency of concepts is paramount
[17:57] <JuanDaugherty> the other is that emotional intelligence bullshit
[17:58] <maxb> You've gone back to abstract-meaningless land
[17:58] <JuanDaugherty> as part of my survey may I ask if you are a native speaker of English?
[17:58] <maxb> As for documentation, you're working with an area of complexity where you'd want to look at Apache httpd upstream documentation rather than Ubuntu/Debian stuff, I think
[17:59] <maxb> I am a native speaker of English
[17:59] <JuanDaugherty> or if you are in the right end of the political spectrum in whatever country you're from?
[18:00] <maxb> I am the kind who mostly ignores politics entirely
[18:00] <JuanDaugherty> you vote tory?
[18:01] <JuanDaugherty> or not at all?
[18:01] * JuanDaugherty checks UK turnout rates.
[18:01] <JuanDaugherty> about same as here (US)
[18:02] <JuanDaugherty> so that's the crisis of democracy
[18:03] <JuanDaugherty> 65% turnout with the winner seldom getting more than 50% of that
[18:03] <JuanDaugherty> which would be OK if people were satisified and that's why they didn't bother to vote
[19:26] <MACscr> is it just me or do none of the current NFS server/client tutorials for Ubuntu have detailed iptables info? Most of the tutorials that i have found that include that info are for rhel/centos and obviously some of the settings paths are different where some of those ports are set
[20:38] <JuanDaugherty> ha looks like the same thing can be done with cgi
[22:10] <JuanDaugherty> and forgot about client side
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2015-11-28-#ubuntu-ci-eng
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[18:54] <bzoltan_> I know, I am naive :) but is here a trainguard who could merge these MRs https://requests.ci-train.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/711
[18:56] <bzoltan_> Ohh.. ignore me, it is auto merged
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2015-11-28-#ubuntu-si
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[06:39] <zdobbie> but how http://usuncut.com/politics/its-official-thousands-more-women-donating-to-bernie-sanders-than-hillary-clinton/
[06:39] <Pepelka> Thousands More Women Donate to Bernie Sanders Campaign
[06:39] <Pepelka> »There goes the myth of the«
[08:59] <yang> http://www.windows93.net/
[08:59] <Pepelka> windows93
[08:59] <Pepelka> »hug + hack = infinity«
[08:59] <CrazyLemon> zdobbie a bo danes padel giro
[09:00] <zdobbie> ne
[09:00] <CrazyLemon> pfft
[09:00] <CrazyLemon> .vreme celje
[09:00] <jabuk> ARSO: Celje (244m): 3°C @28.11.2015 8:00 UTC.
[09:00] <jabuk> Vlažnost: 87% jugozahodnik 3.4 m/s (12.2 km/h)
[09:00] <jabuk> Sončni vzhod: 06:18:24, Kulminacija: 10:48:14, Sončni zahod: 15:18:05
[09:00] <jabuk> Dan je dolg: 8ur 59min 40s, Luna je v ščipu
[09:00] <CrazyLemon> .vreme koper
[09:00] <jabuk> ARSO: Koper Kapitanija (4m): 6.5°C @28.11.2015 8:30 UTC.
[09:00] <jabuk> Vlažnost: 63% jugovzhodnik 0.7 m/s (2.5 km/h)
[09:00] <jabuk> Sončni vzhod: 06:22:14, Kulminacija: 10:54:23, Sončni zahod: 15:26:33
[09:00] <jabuk> Dan je dolg: 9ur 04min 19s, Luna je v ščipu
[09:00] <CrazyLemon> almost the same!
[09:04] <jabuk> M 1.4 > 28.km JZ od MIRNA @28/11/2015 09:54:23 https://maps.google.com/?q=45.7+N,+13.38+E
[09:14] <yang> .vreme lj
[09:14] <jabuk> ARSO: Ljubljana (299m): 3.6°C @28.11.2015 9:00 UTC.
[09:14] <jabuk> Vlažnost: 79% vzhodnik 0.6 m/s (2.2 km/h)
[09:14] <jabuk> Sončni vzhod: 06:20:48, Kulminacija: 10:51:15, Sončni zahod: 15:21:41
[09:14] <jabuk> Dan je dolg: 9ur 00min 54s, Luna je v ščipu
[10:03] <msev-> a ne dela edn od vs v nemčiji al avstriji, kko se napiše "odlikuje ga"
[10:04] <CrazyLemon> msev- !t sl de odlikuje ga
[10:04] <Pepelka> gekennzeichnet durch
[10:05] <msev-> js sj to sm tut js prevedu
[10:05] <msev-> sam nevm če je prov
[10:56] <dz0ny_> http://koruza.net
[10:56] <Pepelka> Koruza
[10:56] <Pepelka> »KORUZA is a low cost, open source and open hardware, wireless optical system, making the free space optical (FSO) technology available to masses and providing an alternative to Wi-Fi networks.«
[11:02] <netkat> haha, lepa koruza
[11:07] <CrazyLemon> .vreme koper
[11:07] <jabuk> ARSO: Koper Kapitanija (4m): 9.3°C @28.11.2015 10:30 UTC.
[11:07] <jabuk> Vlažnost: 58% severnik 3.4 m/s (12.2 km/h)
[11:07] <jabuk> Sončni vzhod: 06:22:14, Kulminacija: 10:54:23, Sončni zahod: 15:26:33
[11:07] <jabuk> Dan je dolg: 9ur 04min 19s, Luna je v ščipu
[11:08] <CrazyLemon> its hot outside!
[11:08] <CrazyLemon> R33D3M33R zakaj si se ti izbrisal iz launchpada? :)
[11:09] <CrazyLemon> dz0ny_ https://video.arnes.si/portal/asset.zul%3barnesvideo=0A410B9ED9EFDCA8B359C96637D1D6CD6ECC892D87BF8F0AF15D89A03FF286DB?id=TKbRSNIkFbj5mQqZJCNnb6AN
[11:09] <Pepelka> Arnes Video
[11:09] <Pepelka> »Razvoj in uporaba GNU/Linux namiznih sistemov pri poukuIgor Kralj, prof. info GEPŠ Piran in Gimnazija KoperMreža znanja je Arnesova jesenska konferenca, katere program je namenjen informatikom in računalničarjem s področij izobraževanja, raziskovanja in kulture. Pokriva predvsem sistemske vidike uporabe novih tehnologij kot tudi predstavitve dobrih praks.Na konferenco Mreža znanja 2015 vabimo predvsem informatike s fakultet in laboratorijev v
[11:12] <msev-> haha koruza
[11:13] <msev-> dzony a bos su pomagat učiteljem
[13:06] <pitastrudl> yo, ima kdo mogoče kakšen delujoč telefon, rabljen, da bi ga prodal za tam max 25€. nima veze stanje, samo da dela :). bi bilo vredu če bi bil android po možnosti.
[13:07] <CrazyLemon> js mam nedelujoč za 25€
[13:07] <CrazyLemon> :
[13:07] <CrazyLemon> :D
[13:11] <yang> pitastrudl: jst ma menga
[13:11] <pitastrudl> CrazyLemon haha,
[13:11] <yang> privat
[13:11] <pitastrudl> ok
[13:54] <jabuk> M 1.3 > 5.km Z od LITIJE @28/11/2015 14:43:10 https://maps.google.com/?q=46.05+N,+14.77+E
[14:00] <jabuk> M 1.3 > 4.km Z od LITIJE @28/11/2015 14:43:09 https://maps.google.com/?q=46.05+N,+14.78+E
[14:26] <CrazyLemon> pitastrudl nič haha..res :D
[14:26] <CrazyLemon> zate 20€ + termalna pasta :>
[14:36] <Sky[x]> nexus 3 s pocenmu ekranom ampak se da vse tipkat pa vidt :)
[14:40] <CrazyLemon> 3? :)
[14:44] <upd> kdo je višji pri šahu: kralj ali kraljica?
[14:45] <CrazyLemon> konj!
[14:58] <yang> Sky[x]: kako ti to uspe, jst mam ze 15 let mobitele, pa nikol nisem pocil ekrana
[14:59] <yang> a ga mas v ritnem zepu ?
[14:59] <Sky[x]> brez nalepke pa ovitka :)
[15:00] <Sky[x]> cs:go se spila ce se kdo :>
[15:00] <CrazyLemon> Sky[x] pitastrudl pa zdobbie
[15:00] <pitastrudl> da
[15:00] <pitastrudl> samo grem ven po nakupih zdaj
[15:00] <pitastrudl> lahko malce kasneje če bo kdo za :)
[15:01] <pitastrudl> Sky[x] steamcommunity.com/id/pitastrudl
[15:01] <pitastrudl> dodaj :)
[16:03] <msev-> kralj je višji
[16:03] <msev-> sam kraljica je bol carica k se bl moova loh :D
[16:19] <CrazyLemon> http://www.engadget.com/2015/11/28/raspberry-pi-eric-schmidt/
[16:19] <Pepelka> You partly have Eric Schmidt to thank for the new $5 Raspberry Pi
[16:19] <Pepelka> »His advice apparently carries a lot of weight.«
[16:21] <zdobbie> naah
[16:40] <CrazyLemon> CSS master help meh! torej imam en popup... in zadeva dela, lahko znotraj popupa scrollaš lepo gor/dol in je tist slider (?) tudi prisoten
[16:40] <CrazyLemon> ampak dela samo če je višina v px
[16:40] <CrazyLemon> če dam recimo 50% pa ne dela
[16:40] <CrazyLemon> kakšna ideja kako naj uporabim % ?
[16:47] <zdobbie> .gif u talkin to me
[16:47] <jabuk> http://media.giphy.com/media/xTiTnHwMahtg3PJDuU/giphy.gif
[16:47] <CrazyLemon> masters*
[16:47] <CrazyLemon> so ..no
[16:51] <zdobbie> ah ok
[16:51] <zdobbie> I'd explain, but hey
[17:12] <CrazyLemon> no you wouldnt
[17:12] <zdobbie> prove it
[17:12] <CrazyLemon> but .gif hay
[17:12] <CrazyLemon> .gif hay
[17:12] <jabuk> http://media.giphy.com/media/l41lOugfmGBVFAQj6/giphy.gif
[17:13] <CrazyLemon> no..not that hay
[17:19] <msev-> A se za ceno rpi2 (45eur a ne) da dobit ksno mocnejs masino za laufat openhab server, sam mora met pa tut low power consumption
[17:20] <msev-> A te rk3288 al kko so ze mini stick pcji a to bi bols laufal openhab
[17:20] <zdobbie> rpi2 pretty stronk
[17:21] <msev-> Ja sj pravjo da kr lepo laufa ta openhab
[17:21] <msev-> Sam bi rajs kj mocnejsga ce se da za isti dnar
[17:22] <msev-> Ke se pa najcnej dobi sploh rpi2
[17:24] <msev-> A mi kdo proda used lol
[17:25] <yang> hm
[17:25] <yang> msev-: IC elektronika v LJ vem da jih drzi, Nano elektronika...
[17:26] <yang> msev-: pr RPI2 je minus edino da si omejen na hitrost SD kartice...
[17:26] <yang> tko da je priporocljivo da malo hitrejso kartico kupis
[17:26] <msev-> Hmmm al pa odroid c1+ z emmc
[17:27] <yang> ampak v raqngu 50 eur ne vem kaj lahko dobis podobnega, raznorazni drugacni PI-ji se obstajajo
[17:27] <yang> to so vse bolj igracke
[17:27] <msev-> Netbook sm dobu za 50eue
[17:27] <msev-> Eur
[17:27] <msev-> Hehe
[17:28] <yang> novega ?
[17:28] <msev-> Starga
[17:29] <msev-> Mogoce bom pa na pi zero najprej probov
[17:29] <msev-> Ce bo zadovljivo da nau prepocas
[17:29] <yang> jst imam RPIA in RPIB
[17:30] <yang> 2 pa nimam
[17:32] <msev-> Kaj pa pocnes s pi-ji
[18:50] <Sky[x]> napsy: vidm da si priden :P
[19:00] <CrazyLemon> http://www.rtvslo.si/svet/najdeno-novo-mnozicno-grobisce-zrtev-is-ja/379820
[19:00] <Pepelka> Najdeno novo množično grobišče žrtev IS-ja :: Prvi interaktivni multimedijski portal, MMC RTV Slovenija
[19:00] <Pepelka> »V bližini Sindžarja na severu Iraka so našli množično grobišče, v katerem je več kot 120 trupel žrtev samooklicanega kalifata Islamska država.«
[19:00] <CrazyLemon> we have to revenge sinjar!
[19:02] <CrazyLemon> http://transparency.si/8-novice/158-hackathon-5-12
[19:02] <Pepelka> Transparency International Slovenija - Hackathon - 5.12.
[19:02] <Pepelka> »Transparency International Slovenia, društvo za etičnost javnega delovanja Integriteta.«
[19:10] <idioterna> hm
[19:10] <idioterna> sam res
[19:10] <idioterna> sinjar bi mogl
[19:10] <idioterna> prestefnat
[19:11] <zdobbie> sinjar je drek
[19:11] <idioterna> 2x red dot vzem pa bo prec bols
[19:12] <zdobbie> prepocasen scope/unscope
[19:26] <zdobbie> and now I'm just sitting here, waiting for the call
[19:27] * CrazyLemon is not waiting for anyone
[19:27] * CrazyLemon will revenge sinjar by himself
[19:28] <CrazyLemon> no..čakam na pomfri
[19:28] <CrazyLemon> T - 20min
[19:29] <idioterna> jsm raisnu issue na pasulj command channelu
[19:30] <idioterna> tko da
[19:30] <idioterna> upam da hmal!
[19:31] <CrazyLemon> pasulj? zvečer? you gonna die dude
[19:31] <CrazyLemon> fyi..ravno sinjar mapa je na strežniku!!
[19:31] <idioterna> ok baje kr not
[19:31] <idioterna> srecno
[19:31] <idioterna> CrazyLemon: https://sioff.net/kiwi/#mcpasulj
[19:35] <CrazyLemon> ahh
[19:35] <CrazyLemon> anyone..mvp sm na sinjar night survival
[19:35] <CrazyLemon> \o/
[19:35] <CrazyLemon> anyway*
[19:44] <CrazyLemon> idioterna te slisim ja
[19:44] <CrazyLemon> sam nimam mica priklopljenga
[19:44] <idioterna> a ok
[19:51] <CrazyLemon> zdobbie sinjar time
[20:23] <yang> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_KsGoE8ehnY
[20:23] <Pepelka> How to fix your LCD TV (half screen) - YouTube
[20:23] <Pepelka> »Shows how to fix your lcd tv (half screen).«
[21:04] <CrazyLemon> kako pa pofixas drugo polovico ??
[21:05] <idioterna> obrnes za 180 stopinj pa ponovis postopek
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2015-11-28-#ubuntu-africa
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[07:38] <Kilos> hellooo africa
[09:55] <melodie> hello!
[09:56] <melodie> I need your help from all, to struggle against unnecessary bloat in Ubuntu and Debian distributions. It's here on this bug report:
[09:56] <melodie> Ubuntu bug 1510709 in gtk+3.0 (Ubuntu) "In Wily libgtk-3-common pulls in adwaita-icon-theme which in return pulls in ubuntu-mono" [Low,Confirmed]
[09:56] <melodie> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gtk+3.0/+bug/1510709
[09:56] <melodie> Kilos- ?
[09:57] <Kilos-> hi there melodie
[12:58] <Na3iL> o/
[19:51] * QA going down for a quick breather... wbb soon
[19:54] <inetpro> wb QA
[19:55] <QA> thanks inetpro
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2015-11-28-#ubuntustudio-devel
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[09:10] <zequence> OvenWerk1: Maybe it will take me more than a day to sync with Xubuntu. I started looking at default settings.
[09:10] <zequence> I'm doing other things today as well
[09:30] <zequence> A note to myself, or anyone else. The Xubuntu maintenance script, debian/xubuntu-default-settings.maintscript has some stuff in it that we may or may not want to include
[09:32] <zequence> One change they did was rename /etc/lighdm/lightdm.conf.d/10-xubuntu.conf to /<path>/50-xubuntu.conf
[09:34] <zequence> I'm adding that, but will check other settings later, if needed
[09:52] <zequence> OvenWerk1: I will not make changes to what is in /etc/xdg/xdg-ubuntustudio/menus. Perhaps you would like to have a look at that once the new ISO is out (today, or Monday the latest), and see if you want to change something there
[10:08] <zequence> Ok, -default-settings is done, except for the .maintscript and the menu stuff.
[10:09] <zequence> I'll do the seeds later..
[10:28] <zequence> Xubuntu has done more work on their core and desktop seeds, removing core stuff from desktop as it seems. We'll do the same, and this also means we could provide a -core desktop alternative to the full -desktop
[12:09] <zequence> Ok, all uploaded. Let's hope it works :).
[20:10] <zequence> Downloading latest ISO now. Been a while since there were any big surprises :P
[20:51] <zequence> Well, the studio icon is missing from the menu, at least
[20:54] <OvenWerk1> zequence: That is really very minor.... well, it does mean config of the panel, which means we keep /etc/dxg/xdg_ubuntustudio/
[20:55] <OvenWerk1> zequence: which menu?
[20:55] <OvenWerk1> zequence: which icon theme?
[20:57] <zequence> From the whisker menu button
[20:58] <zequence> Only did a quick run in VBox so far.
[21:10] <OvenWerk1> zequence: That makes sense as whisker has different config from the panel menu.
[21:11] <OvenWerk1> it does use the same xdg menu files though.
[23:08] <hanno> Hi. I have a question about packaging for Ubuntu and jackd.
[23:09] <hanno> I know that you guys are using jackd by default.
[23:10] <hanno> I'm trying to package Sonic Pi to .deb
[23:10] <hanno> That works, but the jackd stuff is a hurdle for users.
[23:11] <hanno> I wonder if Sonic Pi is using jackd the "right" way or not.
[23:11] <hanno> SP comes from the Raspberry Pi and there it works out of the box, but not on default Ubuntu.
[23:11] <hanno> I want to package that .deb so that it works out of the box on Debian, Ubuntu (all flavours) and Raspbian...
[23:17] <OvenWerk1> hanno: linux is ALSA. Jackd or pulse or almost anything in the linux world needs ALSA at some point.
[23:18] <hanno> Sonic Pi relies on jackd.
[23:18] <OvenWerk1> hanno: Really? jack is not trivial on the r-pi
[23:18] <hanno> Really.
[23:19] <hanno> Sonic Pi is an IDE to a ruby-based interpreter that makes sound through SuperCollider. And SuperCollider sends its audio to jackd.
[23:19] <OvenWerk1> there are two jackd packages in ubuntu (or debian where the ubuntu packages come from): Jackd1 and jackd2
[23:20] <OvenWerk1> that makes sense.
[23:20] <hanno> You can try it yourself here: https://launchpad.net/~hzulla/+archive/ubuntu/sonic-pi/+packages
[23:21] <hanno> That's what I got so far. What I need now is some sort of review by other people who package audio-related software that needs jackd.
[23:21] <hanno> Who'd want to tell me how to get it "right".
[23:22] <OvenWerk1> so depends need to be either/or for the two packages though to be honest many jack related packages in debian just look for jack2 and jack1 uninstalls a bunch if not done right. :P
[23:22] <hanno> I'm just a casual contributor. The Sonic Pi main developers write their stuff on OS X and test on the RPi. x86 Desktop Linux isn't their main target and thus it doesn't work perfectly.
[23:25] <OvenWerk1> :)
[23:25] <hanno> The code starts jackd from inside the application https://github.com/samaaron/sonic-pi/blob/master/app/server/sonicpi/lib/sonicpi/scsynthexternal.rb
[23:25] <hanno> I'm not quite sure if this is "right", but know next to nothing about developing for jackd and so I'm asking here.
[23:29] <OvenWerk1> killall is not very nice. The idea is that jack runs and clients don't turn it off or on, just use it if it is there.
[23:29] <OvenWerk1> anyway, a killall jackd will not work.
[23:29] <hanno> Is there an Ubuntu .deb that shows how it's done right?
[23:29] <OvenWerk1> you would need to killall -9 jackd jackdbus.
[23:30] <OvenWerk1> There are some audio interfaces that will not start at all at 44100hz, most are designed for 48000 for best sound.
[23:31] <OvenWerk1> A good reason to let the running jack handle things.
[23:33] <OvenWerk1> Ah, I was looking at the rpi code, linux is below.
[23:37] <OvenWerk1> you might try -n 2 or -p 1024 (not both) I know at least one of my audio IFs will not work above 2048 at 2 frames.
[23:37] <OvenWerk1> buffer isn't big enough.
[23:38] <OvenWerk1> hanno: Are you saying this script will not startjack?
[23:39] * OvenWerk1 installs SC
[23:39] <hanno> I'm more concernced if this is the right way to handle jackd.
[23:39] * hanno got to go now.
[23:40] <hanno> If you have suggestions about how to improve this, please send me an email (it's in the changelog) or write to the team via a github issue.
[23:40] <hanno> I'd be very thankful to find out how to make this thing more Linuxy.
[23:40] <OvenWerk1> I would let the user run it, but it looks like it would work most of the time... -p 1024 I would go with.
[23:42] <hanno> We want to make this work out of the box and painlessly.
[23:42] <hanno> But that's not the case right now, except on RPi.
[23:44] <hanno> Thanks OvenWerk1!
[23:44] <OvenWerk1> Ya, I can see that. Except on a distro with jack built in just getting it set up and understanding jack's limits is a pain.
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2015-11-28-#ubuntu-us-fl
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[13:59] <bbbb> hi how are yall
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2015-11-28-#juju-dev
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[02:47] <mup> Bug #1520669 changed: Upgrade from 1.21.3 -> 1.25.0 got minor errors <juju-core:Triaged by cherylj> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1520669>
[03:02] <mup> Bug #1520669 opened: Upgrade from 1.21.3 -> 1.25.0 got minor errors <juju-core:Triaged by cherylj> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1520669>
[03:05] <mup> Bug #1520669 changed: Upgrade from 1.21.3 -> 1.25.0 got minor errors <juju-core:Triaged by cherylj> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1520669>
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2015-11-28-#ubuntu-ch
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[09:26] <WaVeR> Morning
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2015-11-28-#ubuntu-touch
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[06:06] <AbuDhar> anyone here?
[06:06] <AbuDhar> which Ubuntu phone should I get?
[10:42] <alexforsale> for porting to a new device, should we use xenial-preinstalled-touch-armhf.tar.gz or stick with vivid?
[10:43] <alexforsale> because in the build/core/Makefile, TARGET_UBUNTU_INITRD_SERIES := vivid
[11:21] <alexforsale> i got this error :ERROR: /build/mir-uRPMwH/mir-0.17.0+15.10.20151008.2/src/platforms/android/server/android_alloc_adaptor.cpp(74): Throw in function virtual std::shared_ptr<mir::graphics::NativeBuffer> mir::graphics::android::AndroidAllocAdaptor::alloc_buffer(mir::geometry::Size, MirPixelFormat, mir::graphics::android::BufferUsage)
[11:21] <alexforsale> Dynamic exception type: boost::exception_detail::clone_impl<boost::exception_detail::error_info_injector<std::runtime_error> >
[11:21] <alexforsale> std::exception::what: buffer allocation failed
[11:21] <alexforsale> in the unity-system-compositor.log
[13:00] <ilhami> anyone here?
[14:24] <lotuspsychje> mcphail: any news on your battery issue?
[14:25] <mcphail> lotuspsychje: still draining like I'm on Android. Going to reflash later
[14:26] <ilhami> can anyone answer my question about Ubuntu?
[14:26] <lotuspsychje> mcphail: seems like my bug, mixcloud was causing it: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/unity8/+bug/1511063
[14:26] <ilhami> Ubuntu phone*
[14:26] <lotuspsychje> ilhami: re-ask once in a while mate
[14:26] <ilhami> I was just asking which Ubuntu phone I should buy... which one is the best out there and which new ones are coming?
[14:27] <lotuspsychje> ilhami: bq 4.4 bq5 hd and meizu
[14:27] <lotuspsychje> 4.5 sorry
[14:27] <mcphail> lotuspsychje: rather annoying when one scope can bring down others
[14:27] <lotuspsychje> mcphail: yeah, but ota8 fixxed it anyway for me so :p
[14:27] <mcphail> :)
[14:27] <ilhami> lotuspsychje: when can I expect a new Ubuntu phone?
[14:28] <lotuspsychje> mcphail: lets hope they find yours
[14:28] <ilhami> the Meizu is sold out apparently.
[14:28] <lotuspsychje> ilhami: you can also buy a second hand nexus4 and flash it with ubuntu touch
[14:28] <ilhami> can I flash my Windows phone e.g.? :)
[14:28] <lotuspsychje> !devices | ilhami
[14:28] <ilhami> how hard would that be?
[14:29] <lotuspsychje> ilhami: not unless you port it yourself :p
[14:29] <ilhami> which kernel does Windows Phone run on?
[14:29] <lotuspsychje> ilhami: ask that in ##windows plz
[14:29] <ilhami> :D
[14:30] <ilhami> I want Ubuntu Touch on my windows phone as dual boot? :)
[14:30] <ilhami> is it possible? yes or no?
[14:30] <lotuspsychje> ilhami: no
[14:30] <ilhami> why not?
[14:30] <lotuspsychje> ilhami: read the devices trigger i just pasted you
[14:31] <ilhami> dude it should be possible. :) we need dual boot on phones !!!
[14:31] <lotuspsychje> ilhami: be our guest to port it to windows phone
[14:32] <ilhami> that would be awesome right? :)
[14:32] <ilhami> will it take long ?
[14:32] <lotuspsychje> ilhami: check the porting guide
[14:32] <ilhami> link :)
[14:33] <lotuspsychje> ilhami: topic!
[14:34] <mac_> hello there I am trying to port ubuntu-touch over android for hd2. So far I compiled android system.img for my device and trying to boot ubuntu. In unity-system-compositor log I have two drivers intiated
[14:34] <mac_> mirplatform: Found graphics driver: android
[14:34] <mac_> mirplatform: Found graphics driver: dummy
[14:34] <mac_> mirserver: Selected driver: dummy (version 0.17.1)
[14:34] <mac_> But for some reason it is selecting dummy version
[14:35] <mac_> How do I make it choose android drivers. Is there any configuration for this?
[14:41] <mac_> Anyone?
[14:43] <popey> Sadly not many people about with porting experience.
[14:45] <ilhami> popey: we can do it :)
[14:46] <ilhami> I will ask my buddy from Canada. He will tell me how to do it
[14:48] <lotuspsychje> ilhami: if you really serious about it, it can change the world
[14:48] <ilhami> how can it change the world? :)
[14:49] <lotuspsychje> ilhami: ubuntu touch has made a big impact already on the mobile world
[14:50] <lotuspsychje> thanks to the hard work of devs here
[14:51] <lotuspsychje> ilhami: do if your friend has porting skillz, bring him over here
[14:51] <ilhami> I really want to try it. :)
[14:51] <ilhami> he has worked for MS for 3 years.. :) He is an expert.
[14:51] <ilhami> Both Linux and MS expert actually.
[14:53] <lotuspsychje> ilhami: pass him the porting link
[14:55] <ilhami> he's not online now but I will do later.
[15:58] <Edir127> How do I install Ubuntu Touch on a HP Touchpad?
[16:12] <lotuspsychje> !devices | Edir127
[16:22] <sebsebseb> hi
[16:22] <sebsebseb> anyone here?
[16:22] <k1l_> Edir127: if you port it to the touchpad i would be interested too :)
[16:23] <sebsebseb> just seen a video of the mouse and keyboard working with Ubuntu Phone, wel via a device
[16:23] <sebsebseb> so wondering about that a bit
[16:23] <Edir127> k1l_: There *used* to be a working port according to touch/devices but it's abandoned and the links are dead
[16:25] <Edir127> From what I gather there is a way to install it by installing CM then formatting tha partitions it makes and having a rootFS .zip file that installs to the partitions, k1l_
[16:26] <Edir127> I'm trying it our rn, I'll let you know how it goes.
[16:26] <Edir127> out*
[16:32] <Edir127> OK what the hell - it somehow booted android again despite me formatting it
[16:32] <Edir127> I must have missed something
[16:41] <ilhami> how laggy is Ubuntu?
[16:41] <ilhami> Touch
[16:42] <Edir127> ihami: Completely depends on the device
[16:42] <ilhami> let's say the Mieze e.g.
[16:42] <ilhami> Miezu
[16:42] <ilhami> or what it's spelled.
[16:43] <ilhami> how******
[16:43] <Edir127> ihami: It's designed to run the OS so I suspect it should run smoothly
[16:43] <ilhami> I was thinking about porting Ubuntu Touch to Windows phones.. what do you think? good or bad idea?
[16:44] <ilhami> I think Windows Phone is really slow.
[16:44] <Edir127> ihami: Don't know how you'll get along with drivers but I'm sure there are people who would appreciate the effort
[16:45] <ilhami> I will have to ask some guys for help but it would be a fun project. :P
[17:08] <vishnudev_> Hi
[17:09] <vishnudev_> what should i do now?
[17:10] <vishnudev_> I did repo sync
[17:44] <vishnudev_> guys I need a help
[17:45] <vishnudev_> I've compiled the source code and got couple of img files
[17:45] <vishnudev_> how to flash it on the device?
[19:26] <Guest25734> Hi, I am testing the amazing convergence-feature on my n4. Is it normal,that it has half a second latency or do i have a super slow slimport cable?
[19:26] <taiebot> Just watched http://blog.qt.io/blog/2015/11/23/qt-quick-controls-re-engineered-status-update/ i wonder if the sdk team is looking at this. I am not a coder but this looks very nice and i would think the all platform would get a major speed boost
[21:08] <muka> I just upgraded my phone. Is hotspot working (mako). if yes what is it essid?
[22:58] <Lg450pp> Hello
[23:07] <sebsebseb> la_juyis`: hi
[23:07] <sebsebseb> oh left
[23:44] <la_juyis`> sebsebseb, hi
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2024-05-13T22:11:19.246011
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2015-11-28-#ubuntu-ko
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[01:30] <autowiz> 안녕들 하시어요
[01:38] <HolyKnight> 홀리찡...
[01:38] <HolyKnight> 아니네
[01:38] <HolyKnight> 오토찡..
[01:38] <autowiz__> 네넹 오토봇 말고 오토찡 입니다 ㅎㅎ
[06:26] <HolyKnight> http://blog.synapsoft.co.kr/421
[06:35] <PotatoGim> 안녕하세요~
[06:41] <commania> 안녕하세요~
[07:37] <HolyKnight> https://github.com/codeinthedark/editor/pull/1
[08:34] <stypr> 안녕하세요. 혹시 cron과 똑같은 기능을 하는대신 더 효율적인 모듈이 존재하는지 궁급합니다.
[08:35] <stypr> cron은 돌리면 auth.log에 남는 현상이 있어서 서버들 설정할때마다 pam쪽에서 cron 로깅하는걸 막아버리긴 하는데 귀찮네요..
[08:51] <autowiz> 다다닷
[08:51] <autowiz> ㅠㅠ
[08:51] <autowiz> 조용하다 싶어서 봤더니 저혼자 덩그러니 ㅠㅠ
[08:52] <autowiz> DoS 때문이라는데 스플릿이 심하게 일어났네요
[18:41] <ahoops> 늦은밤 고생들이 많으십니다. (__)
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2024-05-13T22:11:19.252761
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2015-11-28-#lubuntu
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[00:54] <MWM> just installed lxde in desktop ubuntu and Ive lost my terminal. It also seems to be kinda jumpy.
[00:54] <MWM> programs dont seem to open correctly = jumpy
[05:42] <cimbakahn> If i installed a PPA that had several packages in it and i had one of the programs already installed, what would happen?
[05:44] <cimbakahn> Like for example i already have pcmanfm 1.2.0 on the computer, then i install the PPA, and the PPA has a pcmanfm 1.2.3 on it, what would happen?
[07:15] <Fedora_> anyone?
[09:50] <melodie> hi
[10:00] <jdx> hi, melodie
[10:01] <melodie> hi jdx
[10:01] <jdx> how arfe you enjoying lubuntu?
[10:01] <melodie> I need help to make this bug report progress, so I need testimonials
[10:01] <jdx> *how arfe you
[10:01] <melodie> "In Wily libgtk-3-common pulls in adwaita-icon-theme which in return pulls in ubuntu-mono" [Low,Confirmed]
[10:01] <melodie> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gtk+3.0/+bug/1510709
[10:02] <melodie> jdx I am arfe fine, thanks. :)
[10:02] <melodie> can you help me?
[10:02] <jdx> no. I am not a packager
[10:02] <jdx> sorry.
[10:02] <melodie> for example, add a comment after the bug report?
[10:02] <melodie> you don't need to be a packager, simple user is ok for this matter
[10:02] <jdx> I would not know what to put.
[10:02] <jdx> not very tech savvy
[10:03] <jdx> I just lurk herre
[10:03] <melodie> for example, you can try to remove the ubuntu-mono icon theme and copy paste the result (but not remove it really, just see what would happen)
[10:03] <jdx> it will get fixed eventually
[10:04] <melodie> knowing that lubuntu has it's own set of icons means that other default installed sets are not needed.
[10:04] <jdx> is that a bug?
[10:04] <melodie> can you read the last message on that page? Yes it's a bug
[10:04] <jdx> I think it is a feature to have other icon sets available
[10:04] <melodie> some would call it a feature, but having it in the recommands would allow the users to decide if they want it or not in the system.
[10:05] <melodie> jdx feature is having it in the recommands
[10:05] <melodie> because recommands are "on" by default
[10:05] <melodie> but it still leaves the choice to keep it or not.
[10:05] <jdx> ok, why you don't you leave that in comments?
[10:05] <melodie> because I am the author of the bug report my dear
[10:05] <jdx> you can not add to it??
[10:06] <melodie> then what is important to know, is that if the libgtk-3-common (or any package) does not break when the dependancy is not installed, then it means it should not be mandatory
[10:07] <melodie> I just did add to it my dear, the final findings. Now I need a few testimonials to make it progress
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ubuntu-chat
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2024-05-13T22:11:19.258589
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2015-11-28-#ubuntu-pl
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[08:32] <Ashiren> :) http://img-9gag-fun.9cache.com/photo/a4LX5YZ_460s.jpg
[09:13] <Ashiren> aww https://i.imgur.com/T2SLp03.jpg
[12:43] <scet> Panowie mam problem z zainstalowanie kompilatora gcc na ubuntu 14.04
[12:43] <scet> dostaje coś takiego: sudo apt-get install gcc
[12:43] <scet> Czytanie list pakietów... Gotowe
[12:43] <scet> Budowanie drzewa zależności
[12:43] <scet> Odczyt informacji o stanie... Gotowe
[12:43] <scet> Nie udało się zainstalować niektórych pakietów. Może to oznaczać,
[12:43] <scet> że zażądano niemożliwej sytuacji lub użyto dystrybucji niestabilnej,
[12:43] <scet> w której niektóre pakiety nie zostały jeszcze utworzone lub przeniesione
[12:43] <scet> z katalogu Incoming ("Przychodzące").
[12:43] <scet> Następujące informacje mogą pomóc rozwiązać sytuację:
[12:43] <scet> Następujące pakiety mają niespełnione zależności:
[12:43] <scet> gcc : Wymaga: gcc-4.8 (>= 4.8.2-5~) ale nie zostanie zainstalowany
[12:46] <gjm> scet: spójrz na temat kanału
[12:46] <scet> ubuntu?
[12:46] <gjm> _cały_ temat
[12:47] <gjm> szczególnie końcówkę
[12:47] <scet> oj kurde
[12:47] <scet> i za coś takiego wypraszasz?
[12:47] <scet> wystarczy napisać
[12:47] <gjm> i myślisz że jak napiszę "nie wklejaj", to twój klient to zaakceptuje i przestanie wklejać?
[12:48] <scet> tak gdybyś mi raz napisał nic bym nie wkleił
[12:48] <gjm> eh…
[12:48] <gjm> nie skumałeś
[12:48] <gjm> wklej to normalnie
[12:48] <gjm> i po sprawie
[12:50] <scet> http://wklej.org/id/1860508/
[12:52] <gjm> spróbuj z -f
[12:53] <scet> to samo
[12:53] <scet> próbowałem: apt-get install gcc-4.8
[12:54] <scet> http://wklej.org/id/1860514/
[12:54] <scet> cpp jest zainstalowane: cpp (Ubuntu 4.8.4-2ubuntu1~14.04) 4.8.4
[12:56] <scet> gcc-4.8-base jest już w najnowszej wersji.
[12:56] <scet> instalowałem qt możliwe, że to coś namieszało?
[12:57] <TheNumb> scet: skąd to qt zainstalowałeś?
[12:57] <scet> ze strony
[12:58] <scet> w repo stara wersja strasznie
[12:58] <TheNumb> a po co Ci koniecznie gcc 4.8?
[12:58] <TheNumb> Już pominę fakt, że standardowym kompilatorem w 14.04 jest właśnie gcc 4.8.2...
[12:59] <TheNumb> a ten webowy instalator z qt.io ciągnie ze sobą własną kopię kompilatora z tego co pamiętam.
[12:59] <scet> nie potrzebny koniecznie
[12:59] <scet> nie
[12:59] <scet> tzn może
[12:59] <TheNumb> zrób to
[12:59] <scet> ale qt creator nie widzi żadnego
[12:59] <TheNumb> bo musisz skonfigurować toolchain
[12:59] <TheNumb> w creatorze
[12:59] <TheNumb> :)
[12:59] <scet> gcc --version
[12:59] <scet> Program gcc nie jest obecnie zainstalowany. Możesz go zainstalować wpisując:
[12:59] <TheNumb> apt sudo apt-get install gcc -y
[12:59] <TheNumb> problem?
[13:00] <TheNumb> sudo apt-get install gcc -y
[13:00] <TheNumb> ;x
[13:00] <TheNumb> będę później
[13:00] <gjm> do sklepiku idziesz?
[13:00] <TheNumb> też
[13:00] <TheNumb> :D
[13:00] <gjm> też zaraz idę
[13:00] <gjm> po, hehe, zapasy
[13:01] <scet> http://wklej.org/id/1860529/
[13:16] <cylon> scet: u mnie /usr/bin/gcc jest linkiem symbolicznym do /usr/bin/gcc-4.8
[13:16] <cylon> scet: skoro u Ciebie nie ma /usr/bin/gcc to może spróbuj stworzyć ten link?
[13:18] <cylon> scet: Na Ubuntu 14.04 zainstalowałem Qt 5.5.1 z PPA: https://launchpad.net/~beineri/+archive/ubuntu/opt-qt551-trusty
[13:18] <cylon> scet: Tyle, że leży w /opt (co ma tę zaletę, że nie śmieci)
[13:20] <mati75> apt-cache policy gcc-4.8
[13:20] <mati75> apt-cache policy gcc
[13:22] <scet> http://wklej.org/id/1860547/
[13:22] <mati75> sudo apt-get update
[13:23] <scet> było
[13:23] <mati75> sudo apt-get install gcc-4.8
[13:23] <mati75> a czekaj
[13:23] <mati75> repo ci brakuje
[13:23] <scet> http://wklej.org/id/1860548/
[13:24] <mati75> dokładnie
[13:24] <mati75> cat /etc/apt/sources.list
[13:24] <mati75> pokaż
[13:25] <scet> http://wklej.org/id/1860550/
[13:27] <mati75> deb http://pl.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ trusty-updates main restricted universe multiverse
[13:27] <mati75> deb http://pl.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ trusty-backports main restricted universe multiverse
[13:27] <mati75> dopisz
[13:27] <mati75> i daj sudo apt-get update
[13:28] <mati75> potem sudo apt-get install gcc-4.8
[13:32] <scet> sukces Panowie
[13:32] <Ashiren> :3 https://i.imgur.com/Tx9djdl.jpg
[13:32] <scet> otwieram browara wasze zdrowie ;)
[13:33] <mati75> sudo apt-get install build-essential
[13:33] <mati75> i będzie całość
[13:40] <scet> jest ok, qt creator wykrył kompilator i program startuje :)
[13:40] <scet> dzięki za pomoc
[14:07] <zasek> dzis ostatki wiec ludzie łapać za flaszki
[14:07] <zasek> i dawaj wania do rana
[14:07] <zasek> :)
[14:11] <TheNumb> alkoholu nie piję
[14:11] <TheNumb> ale piwo tak
[15:34] <firemark> TheNumb: w rosji te zdanie mialo sens
[15:34] <firemark> TheNumb: bo piwo to byl zwykly produkt spozywczy :D
[15:35] <firemark> ale putin zabronil
[15:40] <zasek> putin,,, kula w łeb i tyle
[15:45] <TheNumb> proszę nie nienawidzić
[15:56] <gjm> trzy precinki nienawiści
[16:24] <d42> PUUTIIIN
[16:37] <firemark> putin, putout
[18:39] <Ashiren> :3 http://img-9gag-fun.9cache.com/photo/aWO3VM3_460s.jpg
[21:18] <Ashiren> :3 https://i.imgur.com/jC9uFZQ.jpg
[21:19] <SamusSR388> jescze niecale 2h
[22:04] <Ashiren> :3 https://i.imgur.com/0SZhemH.gifv
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ubuntu-chat
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2024-05-13T22:11:19.271634
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2015-11-28-#ubuntu-kernel
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[12:48] <michyprima> hello guys
[12:51] <michyprima> I'm still experiencing bug #1456985 on 15.10 with 4.2.0-18. ext4 fs goes readonly sometimes when server backups. Before filing a new bug, I would love to know if it's me doing something wrong or not :)
[13:31] <apw> michyprima, if it sounds like the same thing and you have the same (or similar symptoms) it is worth filing a new bug and referencing the old in the description as being the same
[13:48] <michyprima> apw: thing is on #1445195 they claim it was fixed for all supported ubuntu distributions, but you are right, simptoms are exactly the same. What I can read from the bug page is that the fix was merged into the linux 3.x tree, so maybe it isn't available yet in 4.x?
[13:55] <michyprima> looks like I was wrong, the correct issue is bug #1470250 which is in progress. my bad for misreading :)
[14:21] <apw> michyprima, there appear to be at least precise test kernels in that bug, if you have an environment you can test
[14:26] <michyprima> I will, thanks. I need to get a test vm first for obvious reasons :P
[14:35] <michyprima> just double checking, I just need to install debs which will install udebs by themselves?
[14:55] <apw> michyprima, udebs are only used by the d-i installer during install time, you only need the .debs to update
[15:11] <michyprima> both virtual and generic hangs on loading ramdisk
[15:11] <michyprima> that doesn't look good
[15:13] <michyprima> I will try installing 3.2.0-23 instead
[15:16] <michyprima> still hangs. mhh, something is definitely wrong
[23:41] <goddard> anyone know why a USB device config descriptor would have 38 hex items in an array ... all the documentation I read lists only 8
[23:41] <goddard> ?
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ubuntu-chat
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2024-05-13T22:11:19.276090
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2015-11-28-#ubuntu-tr
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[14:35] <hakan> selamun aleyküm
[14:41] <ksari> @slm
[19:57] <huseyin> slm
[20:46] <huseyin> ubuntu 14.4'e qgis kuran varmı hiç?
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ubuntu-chat
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2024-05-13T22:11:19.278655
| 2015-11-28T00:00:00 |
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"authors": [
"hakan",
"huseyin",
"ksari"
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"channel": "#ubuntu-tr"
}
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2015-11-28-#ubuntu+1
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[09:39] <lordievader> Good morning.
[12:02] <BluesKaj> Hiyas all
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ubuntu-chat
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2024-05-13T22:11:19.280059
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"BluesKaj",
"lordievader"
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2015-11-28-#maas
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[07:05] <mup> Bug #1520741 opened: MAAS mis-reports number of CPU cores on Athlon 64 X2 <MAAS:New> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1520741>
[11:03] <mup> Bug #1520760 opened: region controller authentication error <MAAS:New> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1520760>
[11:06] <mup> Bug #1520760 changed: region controller authentication error <MAAS:New> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1520760>
[11:09] <mup> Bug #1520760 opened: region controller authentication error <MAAS:New> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1520760>
[18:01] <mup> Bug #1520760 changed: region controller authentication error <MAAS:Invalid> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1520760>
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ubuntu-chat
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2024-05-13T22:11:19.283042
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"authors": [
"mup"
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2015-11-28-#ubuntustudio
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[12:36] <laubossl2nk> hi everybody, i've little question, i would like to redirect all sound of my differents peripherals on a central sound serveur, what is the best software client/server ?
[12:36] <laubossl2nk> don't want to stream ! i want directly to play sound that the central server receive
[12:41] <zequence> laubossl2nk: Haven't done that, but you should be able to use jack for that. OvenWerk1 has done some work on that. He will be able to answer you as soon as he comes back.
[12:42] <zequence> Else, you could try asking on #jack or #opensourcemusicians
[13:56] <mimmo> musica
[19:24] <yernaten> hei
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ubuntu-chat
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2024-05-13T22:11:19.286257
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"laubossl2nk",
"mimmo",
"yernaten",
"zequence"
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2015-11-28-#ubuntu-news
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[05:54] <pleia2> ok, I've sent off the newsletter to the summary writers
[05:56] * pleia2 sleep &
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ubuntu-chat
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2024-05-13T22:11:19.287123
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"authors": [
"pleia2"
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2015-11-28-#ubuntu-gr
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[07:43] <Tassos> καλημέρα :)
[15:50] <Tassos> έχει ασχοληθεί κανένας σας με indicator ?
[15:51] <Tassos> θέλω σε ένα που έχω κάνει να αλλάζω το εικονίδιο... και με παιδεύει το πως να το κάνω αυτό..
[18:50] <nikos> hello
[18:53] <nikos> σκεφτομαι να ξεκινησω να χρησιμοποιω linux αλλα λογω χαμηλου μπατζετ θα αγορασω ενα lenovo thinkpad t400 που μαλλον θα τον αναβαθμισω με ενα σκληρο ssd
[18:53] <nikos> καλη επιλογη και αν ναι ποια διανομη απολλες να διαλεξω να μελετησω
[18:53] <nikos> ?
[18:54] <nikos> μαλλον δεν υπαρχει κανεις διαθεσιμος ?
[19:00] <nikos> κανεις κανεις?
[19:01] <kerato> ok einai to laptopaki
[19:01] <kerato> ti 8es na ma8eis
[19:08] <nikos> γενικως να μαθω τα linux τωρα ποιο συγκεκριμενα ειμαι φοιτητης στο φυσικο οποτε χρειζομαι να λειτουργω word excel κτλ
[19:08] <nikos> τωρα δεν ξερω αν θα μπορεσω να εγκαταστησω βαρια προγραμματα εκτος αν ειναι εφικτο
[19:09] <kerato> mporeis na valeis ligh ram akoma
[19:11] <nikos> Επεξεργαστής Intel® Core™2 Duo Processor P8600 (3M Cache, 2.40 GHz, 1066 MHz FSB) Μνήμη RAM 4GB DDR3 / 8GB MAX Σκληρός Δίσκος 160GB SATA Οθόνη 14.1" LED WebCam Integrated HD Οπτικό Μέσο DVD-RW Κάρτα Γραφικών Integrated Intel GMA 4500 MHD Διασυνδέσεις 1 x IEEE 1394a 1 x δίκτυο Gigabit Ethernet - RJ-45 3 x Hi-Speed USB 1 x Microphone - Line in 1 x Headphon
[19:11] <nikos> να βαλω 8 ?
[19:12] <nikos> κυριο προβλημα μου ομως μιας και ειμαι αρχαριος ειναι ποια διανομη να εχω και να κατσω να μαθω
[19:12] <kerato> dokimase me kanena live usb kai des poia saresei
[19:12] <kerato> kata vash to linux idio einai , to pervallon allazei
[19:13] <kerato> an 8es kati pio light dokimase kapoia dianomh me xfce h' mate
[19:16] <nikos> ti enoeis me live usb?
[19:16] <kerato> na trexei apo to usb xwris na kaneis egkatastash
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2024-05-13T22:11:19.294597
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"Tassos",
"kerato",
"nikos"
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"channel": "#ubuntu-gr"
}
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2015-11-28-#ubuntu-hr
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[08:47] <Vlado9A3CY> dobro jutro
[10:28] <Vlado9A3CY> hell o :)
[19:34] <MmikeM> jelly, ping
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ubuntu-chat
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2024-05-13T22:11:19.296182
| 2015-11-28T00:00:00 |
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"MmikeM",
"Vlado9A3CY"
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"channel": "#ubuntu-hr"
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2015-11-28-#ubuntu-discuss
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[01:19] <daftykins> EriC^^: 'tis a long shift! how's you? :)
[01:23] <Bashing-om> I be look'n how I can take up the slack .. Just about cinched in .
[02:52] <EriC^^> daftykins: hey, i'm ok, you?
[09:39] <lordievader> Good morning.
[10:59] <TJ-> Would anyone happen to have, or have used, an Asus K8V SE Deluxe mobo. It allegedly has a talking POST (Power On Self Test) ability even if the CPU is missing, and I'm trying to play about with one not able to get it to talk to me :)
[11:00] <cfhowlett> talking as in ... TALKING?
[11:01] <TJ-> Yeah! It has a Winbond chip onboard that apparently stores sampled audio and plays it out based on the system's POST code numbers when there's a failure. There's even Windows software to replace the default messages with your own
[11:01] <TJ-> I want to pull a stunt on someone ... give them the board and have ot say things to them even without the CPU onboard :p
[11:02] <cfhowlett> you, sir, are a sick and twisted individual ... :)
[11:02] * TJ- sniggers evilly
[11:03] <TJ-> But rather like our Huskies, this mobo is refusing to howl - Oooo! now there's an idea, a howling mobo :D
[12:02] <BluesKaj> Hiyas all
[12:29] <TJ-> well that was fun - just being playing cops and robbers chasing some people hare-coursing on the fields, cops are persuing them by road now
[13:16] <pauljw> mornin'
[13:24] <BluesKaj> 'Morning pauljw
[13:25] <pauljw> hi BluesKaj
[13:27] <BluesKaj> it seems a shame that Kubuntu 16.04 takes 2 mins from grub to the login screen on my new Samsung EVO 256Gb SSD . it was really fast booying until a week ago after some upgrade mucked up the systemd start
[13:28] <pauljw> ouch, that is a shame
[13:28] <BluesKaj> I see the benefits of the speed after booting when switch apps etc , but booting is a mess
[13:30] <pauljw> upgrades scare me, i had one this week that messed up my virtualbox
[13:30] <BluesKaj> there are 2 /30 sec delays in the syslog with no data in between either of them, so there's no way of knowing what th eporblem is there
[13:31] <BluesKaj> the problem
[13:32] <BluesKaj> 14.04 is still nice and fast , but it's on an older spinner HDD
[13:32] <pauljw> :)
[13:34] <BluesKaj> IMO 14.04 is the last decent Kubuntu OS ...plasma 5 has been nothing but a problem for me
[13:35] <pauljw> that's a bummer, i always liked KDE. does seem to be getting quite bloated lately.
[13:36] <pauljw> my wife and daughter are on PCLinuxOS using KDE and so far it's going well for them.
[13:38] <BluesKaj> good, nice to hear the ladies are using linux too. Wife is a W7 user and doesn't plan to change, besides her fav games aren't in the steam stable
[13:40] <BluesKaj> my daughter used Kubuntu for a while on a laptop I gave her, but now she's on a new W10 laptop and seems to like it.
[13:41] <pauljw> my daughter took to linux like water but it took me years to convince my wife to let me switch her to linux. none of us are big gamers. daughter is into art and does freehand, then scans in to gimp for coloring and manipulation. taught herself gimp and is getting real good at it.
[13:41] <BluesKaj> pauljw, what's PCLinux OS forked from?
[13:41] <pauljw> crap...
[13:41] <pauljw> can't remember
[13:42] <pauljw> mandrake is all i can think of but not sure if that's a distro or a software name
[13:43] <BluesKaj> Mandrake Linux (now Mandriva Linux).
[13:44] <pauljw> :) that's the one...
[13:44] <BluesKaj> rpm package management.... not my cuppa tea, but if it works ....
[13:45] <BluesKaj> who's to argue :-)
[13:46] <pauljw> yeah, seems to work ok, and they have it set up to utilize apt-get so it's easy for me to remotely keep them updated and not confuse myself
[13:49] <TJ-> BluesKaj: systemd provides specfic tooling to identify delays
[13:49] <TJ-> BluesKaj: "systemd-analyze blame"
[13:58] <BluesKaj> TJ-, sytemd-analyse: Startup finished in 11.609s (kernel) + 3min 635ms (userspace) = 3min 12.245s
[13:59] <BluesKaj> looks about right, from grub to desktop, over 3mins
[14:01] <TJ-> BluesKaj: did you use "blame" to see what was using the time?
[14:02] <BluesKaj> nothing shows, all actions are in ms
[14:04] <BluesKaj> except for the first few, they add up to 10secs total
[14:09] <TJ-> BluesKaj: can you "pastebinit <( systemd-analyze blame )"
[14:11] <BluesKaj> TJ-, http://pastebin.com/aAxkPfMe
[14:13] <TJ-> BluesKaj: are there any remote network file-system mounts declared in fstab?
[14:14] <BluesKaj> not remote , just my outboard drive
[14:16] <TJ-> but that PC is operating a samba AD ?
[14:18] <BluesKaj> TJ-, i can pastebin the syslog if you wish
[14:18] <BluesKaj> but it's huge
[14:18] <lotuspsychje> good afternoon to all
[14:18] <BluesKaj> hey lotuspsychje
[14:19] <lotuspsychje> hey BluesKaj
[14:19] <TJ-> BluesKaj: sure, if it has timestamps... how about find where the last boot started and paste from there?
[14:19] <lotuspsychje> hi TJ-
[14:19] <BluesKaj> TJ-, ok
[14:20] <pauljw> hi lotuspsychje
[14:20] <lotuspsychje> hey pauljw
[14:22] <lotuspsychje> anyone of you guys knows a free logo designer online?
[14:24] <pauljw> sorry, no
[14:25] <pauljw> brb
[14:30] <TJ-> lotuspsychje: logo design is pretty easy with thinks like Inkscape (SVG)
[14:31] <lotuspsychje> TJ-: but its nice to have it show business style right :p
[14:31] <BluesKaj> TJ-, http://pastebin.com/dvjG5upY , looks like a couple of uuids are troublesome but not until the end
[14:36] <TJ-> lotuspsychje: not disagreeing - just saying you an generate some very good logos using SVG and Inkscape, I've used it many times for such things. SVG scales to whatever resolutions you need
[14:38] <lotuspsychje> TJ-: ok ill look it tru
[14:39] <TJ-> BluesKaj: nothing wrong there. Starts at 08:11.20 and finishes at 08:11.33 - after that it's the KDE stuff
[14:39] <TJ-> BluesKaj: probably you've got that plasma delay bug
[14:41] <TJ-> that timeout for the swap device might delay things, but everything else in the log doesn't indicate it is doing so
[14:41] <pauljw> TJ-: does 14.04 not have a complete systemd config? the analyze blame doesn't work for me
[14:42] <BluesKaj> TJ-, damn plasma 5, it's nothing but a mess IMO
[14:42] <TJ-> BluesKaj: "QDBusConnection: session D-Bus connection created before QCoreApplication. Application may misbehave."
[14:42] <TJ-> pauljw: introduced in 15.04; 14.04 only uses systemd-login
[14:42] <pauljw> ah, thanks
[14:43] <BluesKaj> yeah , 14.104 is till on plasma 4
[14:43] <BluesKaj> err 14.04 even
[14:43] <TJ-> BluesKaj: yeah, this is 1 of the main reasons I didn't volunteer to work on Kubuntu - I was told by sitter they only do packaging and don't carry bug fixes in the distro - so the entire thing is beholden to upstream
[14:44] <TJ-> And from what I've seen the actual, useful, code is often half-baked and buggy
[14:45] <TJ-> Even stupid amateur things like not remembering the directory a File>Save-As dialog was opened at, which makes the user experience terrible
[14:47] <TJ-> Got frustrated by that one with GwenView earlier, trying to copy individual CCTV capture files from the camera's NFS share
[14:50] <BluesKaj> like I said earlier , seems 14.04 Kubuntu is tha last best
[14:55] <TJ-> I'm not sure the KDE4 apps took care of things like Save-As either. It seems to be the devs are more interesting in glitzy effects than regular good efficient user workflow and experience.
[15:48] <pauljw> brb
[17:15] <MonkeyDust> yes
[17:15] <MonkeyDust> but no
[18:06] <lotuspsychje> MonkeyDust: yes
[18:07] <lotuspsychje> someone wants a w10 theme :p http://linux.softpedia.com/blog/windows-10-accurate-theme-released-for-almost-all-major-linux-desktops-496831.shtml
[18:09] <MonkeyDust> lotuspsychje gonna try that in my 16.04 vm
[18:09] <lotuspsychje> lol
[18:10] <MonkeyDust> :)
[18:10] <lotuspsychje> brb laundry
[19:14] <lotuspsychje> re
[19:30] <lotuspsychje> MonkeyDust: do you have a working eid card reader on ubuntu?
[19:33] <MonkeyDust> lotuspsychje no, but a lady in my evening class has one, i'll ask her
[19:33] <MonkeyDust> also for ubuntu
[19:33] <lotuspsychje> MonkeyDust: tnx, if you can let me know wich type/brand
[19:33] <MonkeyDust> ok
[19:34] <lotuspsychje> thanks
[20:03] <MonkeyDust> she also has working drivers, she said
[20:04] <lotuspsychje> MonkeyDust: nice, JanC explained me the other day some chip works on ubuntu
[20:04] <lotuspsychje> MonkeyDust: as we have same country, thought to ask you too :p
[20:06] <MonkeyDust> Belgium, 'the world's most boring country', is on the frontpages again ;-)
[20:06] <lotuspsychje> haha
[20:06] <lotuspsychje> big wafle sales!!!
[20:06] <lotuspsychje> or do you mean another headline ? :p
[20:08] <MonkeyDust> last time was in 1995 or -96, with that child abusing criminal
[20:08] <lotuspsychje> lol
[21:17] <lotuspsychje> !usn
[21:17] <lotuspsychje> there was a recent dpkg exploit, everyone update to latest
[21:23] <TJ-> If there any of those 'old style' packages in the archives I'd be surprised, and there's no privilege escalation, only software dev's will generally be using 'dpkg-deb'
[21:27] <lotuspsychje> yeah well i rather keep updated :p
[21:29] <TJ-> agreed, but it's not an OMG! stop everything type of vulnerability. I'm rather suprised more such bugs aren't found in the dpk tooling, the code is a bit ropey from what I've seen
[21:29] <lotuspsychje> yeah
[21:29] <lotuspsychje> my god that motaka enervates me
[21:29] <lotuspsychje> all this repeated questions
[21:33] <TJ-> He's Iranian, and a novice, and dealing with something way beyond his experience with blind trust in us
[21:33] <lotuspsychje> seems like it
[21:34] <TJ-> that's why I focused on getting the remote SSH working via PuTTY, and checking things careful, because the symptoms were so weird. Glad you guys figured out it was an aborted d-r-u
[21:34] <lotuspsychje> yeah ioria got that1 i think
[21:36] <TJ-> it really does explain why the system got into such a strange state. I don't think I've seen a system that didn't regain the greeter GUI when lightdm is restarted.
[21:36] <lotuspsychje> yeah thats real weird
[21:36] <lotuspsychje> that 2500sec lag in conf
[21:39] <TJ-> times like these I reall mis hands-on
[21:40] <lotuspsychje> remote take-over?
[21:41] <TJ-> being in front of the system for that kind of issue. I've had those described as 'black screen' only to find the monitor has gone DPMS off, or the GPU is driving an imaginary monitor, or the monitor is blinking its out-of-range LED
[21:42] <lotuspsychje> yeah i also like the real system in front of me
[21:42] <lotuspsychje> and find a way in
[21:42] <lotuspsychje> mostly clean install fix alot :p
[21:42] <TJ-> classic one is where there are dual outputs and the user has connected the monitor to the secondary output, but the GPU is driving the first only once the X server starts. Up to them both outputs are getting the console output so its not obvious
[21:43] <lotuspsychje> big thumbs up to the guys that always work over ssh to straighten things out :p
[21:43] <lotuspsychje> i wouldnt like that :p
[21:43] <TJ-> On reason I love linux and the logging; you can almost guarantee finding clues in the logs
[21:44] <TJ-> so remote works even when there's no GUI. Impossible on Windows when the GUI goes funny, or log-ins crash
[21:44] <lotuspsychje> yeah
[21:45] <TJ-> anyhow... I've got a talking motherboard here with a fault power driver circuit I need to trace
[21:45] <lotuspsychje> ok :p
[22:04] <lotuspsychje> nite nite guys
[22:05] <lotuspsychje> boxspring awaiting us
[22:30] <daftykins> ah har freenode has calmed down
[23:19] <daftykins> hey folks \o
[23:19] <daftykins> looks like Kornbluth in Germany took a hit last night, taking me offline!
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[00:00] <jophish__> daftykins: no dice with 352
[00:00] <Austin__Wall> http://termbin.com/08n9
[00:00] <LonelyDanbo> well thanks for all your help and information. I'll try out Steam and keep an eye out on my temperature readings.
[00:00] <jophish__> the only change was that ubuntu hung on the splash screen for several minutes
[00:01] <daftykins> jophish__: ok, boot into Windows and install the updated BIOS the Dell site offers, there's one version newer that's a good 7 months newer
[00:01] <daftykins> jophish__: but proceed carefully as a BIOS flash is not a thing to do on a whim :
[00:01] <daftykins> :)
[00:02] <daftykins> Austin__Wall: do you recall which method you used to try the nvidia proprietary driver?
[00:02] <jophish__> no problem, I've still got 10+ minutes before I need to go get the charging cable
[00:02] <jophish__> just kidding!
[00:02] <Austin__Wall> I went to the thirdparty drivers tab
[00:02] <daftykins> jophish__: lol you had me then :P
[00:02] <daftykins> Austin__Wall: cool, do you remember which you picked?
[00:03] <bumblefuzz> how do I set up natural scrolling for my mouse?
[00:03] <bumblefuzz> if it already works for my trackpad
[00:03] <Austin__Wall> daftykins: NVIDIA binary driver - version 340.96 from nvidia-340
[00:04] <daftykins> Austin__Wall: are you offered any a little older?
[00:04] <Austin__Wall> There the legacy 304
[00:05] <daftykins> Austin__Wall: is this a more workstation class laptop, or?
[00:05] <Austin__Wall> It's a thinkpad T510
[00:06] <jophish__> ok, rebooting, fingers crossed
[00:06] <zalgo_> finally got this to work properly
[00:06] <Austin__Wall> I use it primarially for programming and netflix/youtube but it'd be nice to run some games on it
[00:06] <daftykins> Austin__Wall: could you run "cat /var/log/Xorg.0.log | nc termbin.com 9999" ?
[00:07] <bumblefuzz> how do I set up natural scrolling for my mouse if it already works for my trackpad??
[00:07] <jophish__> blast! "low graphics mode" again
[00:07] <daftykins> jophish__: is it win10?
[00:07] <Austin__Wall> http://termbin.com/j0aj
[00:07] <jophish__> daftykins: yes
[00:07] <daftykins> jophish__: try Super+R -> "shutdown -s -t 1" in 10 prior to booting cold and into ubuntu
[00:08] <daftykins> Austin__Wall: and "cat /etc/X11/xorg.conf | nc termbin.com 9999" please
[00:09] <EriC^^> bumblefuzz: it's not in settings > touchpad?
[00:09] <Austin__Wall> http://termbin.com/k8sw
[00:10] <daftykins> Austin__Wall: ok; when the last nvidia attempt failed, did you have a method you can easily repeat today (now) if it were to fail again?
[00:10] <daftykins> just in case my idea does not work
[00:10] <jophish__> daftykins: no change after that I'm afraid
[00:10] <bumblefuzz> EriC^^, I already selected that
[00:10] <bumblefuzz> it works for the trackpad
[00:10] <Austin__Wall> Hmm... I just did purged nvidia-* and reinstalled the xorg thing
[00:10] <bumblefuzz> but it doesn't work for my mouse
[00:10] <EriC^^> bumblefuzz: try xinput | nc termbin.com 9999
[00:12] <daftykins> Austin__Wall: ok - you only need to purge nvidia* - nothing else; right now the existence of /etc/X11/xorg.conf would have ruined having the nvidia driver on, so if you run "sudo mv /etc/X11/xorg.conf /etc/X11/xorg.conf.old" then go back to installing that nvidia 340.96 driver and reboot, you might have a better result
[00:12] <Austin__Wall> I followed the instructions here: http://askubuntu.com/questions/206283/how-can-i-uninstall-a-nvidia-driver-completely
[00:12] <Austin__Wall> Ok I'll try that
[00:13] <bumblefuzz> EriC^^, type that into terminal?
[00:13] <EriC^^> yes
[00:13] <Ender_Wiggin> hey friends. total noob here. need a little help with networking stuff
[00:13] <bumblefuzz> http://termbin.com/26vy
[00:14] <Ender_Wiggin> do i need to assign a local static IP if im using a dyndns service like no-ip to host a TS3 server on my ubuntu box?
[00:14] <daftykins> Ender_Wiggin: yes, so it doesn't move ruining your port forwards
[00:14] <Ender_Wiggin> mmk
[00:14] <EriC^^> bumblefuzz: type xinput list-props 11
[00:14] <Ender_Wiggin> im having a little trouble setting up the local static IP
[00:14] <Austin__Wall> Ok, rebooting now, I'll let you know how it goes
[00:15] <EriC^^> bumblefuzz: type xinput list-props 11 | nc termbin.com 9999
[00:15] <daftykins> Ender_Wiggin: 1) edit your router's DHCP scope so there's some 'room' at the end (a network typically addresses from 192.168.0.2 -> 254, where .1 is the router - you bring that scope back to say 250 then you can use 251-254 for your server.
[00:15] <daftykins> Ender_Wiggin: alright, what've you got installed on there?
[00:15] <Ender_Wiggin> I need to change the settings for eth0? I'm using a hardwired connection to my router
[00:15] <Ender_Wiggin> ATM Im just using default settings
[00:15] <daftykins> ubuntu desktop or server?
[00:16] <Ender_Wiggin> desktop, running LXDE
[00:16] <Ender_Wiggin> from ubuntu distro
[00:16] <daftykins> ok, so you've probably seen mention of editing /etc/network/interfaces right?
[00:16] <Ender_Wiggin> yeah
[00:16] <bumblefuzz> http://termbin.com/coob
[00:16] <Ender_Wiggin> got in the directory, didnt know how to edit it
[00:16] <daftykins> double check your interface is called eth0 for sure by typing "ip a" and looking for the name that isn't "lo"
[00:17] <daftykins> Ender_Wiggin: a nice simple text editor is 'nano'; "sudo nano /etc/network/interfaces"
[00:17] <bumblefuzz> also, is there a way to swap my control and command keys?
[00:17] <Ender_Wiggin> yeah says 2: eth0
[00:17] <Ender_Wiggin> copy
[00:18] <EriC^^> bumblefuzz: what do you mean by control and command keys?
[00:18] <Ender_Wiggin> k im at the nano editor for that
[00:18] <Austin_Wall> It hung at starting light display manager
[00:18] <daftykins> Ender_Wiggin: so where you have "iface eth0 inet dhcp" change 'dhcp' to 'static' then after that line you need "address 192.168.0.254" for example, then next line "netmask 255.255.255.0" then "gateway 192.168.0.1" (example if that's your router IP)
[00:19] <Ender_Wiggin> daftykins: http://pastebin.com/QSK9aQJL
[00:19] <Ender_Wiggin> thats what i have ATM
[00:20] <bumblefuzz> EriC^^, I mean press command to tell the system ctrl and press ctrl to press command
[00:20] <daftykins> Ender_Wiggin: ok enter twice after 'loopback' then "auto eth0" next line "iface eth0 inet static" then as above
[00:20] <bumblefuzz> so if I want to copy, I press command + c
[00:21] <bumblefuzz> instead of ctrl + c
[00:21] <daftykins> bumblefuzz: heh i know the exact opposite pain when forced to use macs ;)
[00:22] <bumblefuzz> lol
[00:22] <bumblefuzz> I'm just beginning on ubuntu
[00:22] <bumblefuzz> so, I want to make it as mac like as possible
[00:22] <Ender_Wiggin> daftykins so i should input that command in the nano editor?
[00:22] <Ender_Wiggin> ddint have anything about DHCP in it
[00:22] <daftykins> Ender_Wiggin: you're in a simple text editor right now, hang on let me just edit your pastebin as an example
[00:22] <Ender_Wiggin> ty
[00:22] <daftykins> Ender_Wiggin: you know what your network uses for IPs already, i take it?
[00:23] <Ender_Wiggin> i think so
[00:23] <Ender_Wiggin> meaning DHCP or whatever?
[00:23] <Ender_Wiggin> sorry haha
[00:23] <daftykins> yeah the IP you receive from your router as its' DHCP allocation - and the IP of your router itself
[00:23] <Ender_Wiggin> yeah i know that
[00:23] <daftykins> "ip route" would say "default via <router IP>"
[00:24] <daftykins> Ender_Wiggin: http://paste.ubuntu.com/13535856/ you'll need to change those IPs depending on what yours are
[00:25] <jophish__> daftykins: I'm going to try installing the driver from nvidia's site
[00:25] <EriC^^> bumblefuzz: sure, open a terminal and type xev
[00:26] <daftykins> jophish__: guaranteed bad idea :)
[00:26] <Ender_Wiggin> ok thanks
[00:26] <jophish__> It's looking as though I'm going to be reinstalling anyway :/
[00:26] <skweek> arg! I want to uninstall python3 but it prompts me to remove like 300mg of files
[00:26] <Austin_Wall> daftykins: It hung at starting light display manager, do you need any logs?
[00:26] <Techman> Hi
[00:26] <daftykins> Austin_Wall: what's on screen instead?
[00:27] <daftykins> Ender_Wiggin: once you've done the above, there'll be more to do... but change the router DHCP range as mentioned, then reboot this system to get the new IP set
[00:28] <Austin_Wall> It was a list of stuff with a bunch of [OK]s and at the bottom it said starting light display manager and didn't do anything else
[00:28] <Techman> Is there a way to get in contact with the folks who run the Ubuntu Pastebin?
[00:28] <whallz> hi, how can i disable ubuntu key mappings for the alt key? i need to map some for vim and ubuntu is capturing those
[00:28] <freakyy> how can i install ubuntu gnome on an ubuntu installation?
[00:28] <bumblefuzz> xev?
[00:28] <Austin_Wall> Let it sit a while and then uninstalled nvidia-*
[00:28] <EriC^^> whallz: you mean the hud?
[00:28] <bumblefuzz> EriC^^, just xev?
[00:28] <EriC^^> bumblefuzz: yeah
[00:29] <whallz> EriC^^: yup
[00:29] <freakyy> nm found it already thanks
[00:29] <EriC^^> whallz: settings > keyboard > shortcuts
[00:29] <daftykins> Austin_Wall: ah right, mmm ok ; so nvidia purge method then you could try the 304 instead
[00:29] <Techman> Eh, I'll contact their webmaster department
[00:29] <Techman> Hopefully that works out
[00:30] <whallz> EriC^^: i changed those
[00:30] <bumblefuzz> ok, what is this?
[00:30] <freakyy> can i select which session to run in lightdm?
[00:30] <freakyy> if i install ubuntu-gnome-desktop package(s)
[00:30] <whallz> EriC^^: i need to find a way to see if xterm is actually sending the signal or what
[00:30] <jophish__> daftykins: well, nvidia's driver didn't make things any worse!
[00:30] <daftykins> ;)
[00:30] <daftykins> jophish__: if i were you i would try 14.04.3
[00:31] <jophish__> daftykins: 15.04 worked well for me too
[00:31] <jophish__> and until today 15.10 was fine :)
[00:31] <daftykins> oh i thought it was a new install... perhaps that older kernel was fine
[00:32] <Ender_Wiggin> daftykins: sooo haha noob question again, how do i get the hostname i setup on no-ip to talk to my server? I setup the port forwarding for TS3 in my router
[00:32] <daftykins> Ender_Wiggin: most routers have DynDNS config pages for you to enter your no-ip details, that's the #1 easiest
[00:32] <Ender_Wiggin> ok thanks
[00:34] <Ender_Wiggin> daftykins looks like my router just has a dropdown box for just DnyDNS.org
[00:34] <Ender_Wiggin> assuming thats different from no-ip
[00:34] <daftykins> ah, mine had a few providers on such a dropdown... what make + model router is it?
[00:34] <daftykins> yeah it is unfortunately
[00:34] <Ender_Wiggin> Netgear WNDR4000
[00:34] <daftykins> hmm surprised if they don't support it, lets see
[00:35] <miroesq_> I am trying to configure my wifi through the cli. Entering "iwlist wlan0 scan" tells me that this interface does not support scanning.
[00:35] <MWM> I was looking for a lightweight desktop and tried lxde. It seems buggy, is that normal? Also it wont run a terminal, is that normal behavior as well?
[00:35] <EriC^^> bumblefuzz: ok, press the command key and get the key code
[00:35] <daftykins> Ender_Wiggin: sure it's on its' own? quick hunt shows - http://kb.netgear.com/app/answers/detail/a_id/23930/~/how-to-setup-dynamic-dns-on-a-netgear-router-using-www.no-ip.com
[00:36] <jophish__> daftykins: would you recommend a clean reinstall, or some kind of funky downgrading?
[00:36] <EriC^^> bumblefuzz: like if i hold my ctrl key, it says keycode 37, and Control_L next to it
[00:36] <Ender_Wiggin> hmm maybe i need to update the firmware
[00:36] <daftykins> jophish__: clean, downgrade is not possible
[00:36] <daftykins> Ender_Wiggin: not usually, is this one perhaps supplied by an ISP?
[00:36] <jophish__> ok, I'd like to keep /home and /var/lib/libvirt
[00:36] <Ender_Wiggin> naw one i bought on my own
[00:37] <bumblefuzz> I don't know how to tell
[00:37] <daftykins> Ender_Wiggin: ok, you're definitely on the advanced pages there? i know they like to segment and hide a lot of features these days; maybe different browsers show different things too
[00:37] <bumblefuzz> there's a ton of text in the terminal
[00:38] <EriC^^> bumblefuzz: hold the command key, and see what it says
[00:38] <daftykins> miroesq_: sure that's the interface name? try "ifconfig -a" to identify interfaces
[00:38] <Ender_Wiggin> yeah went advanced>advanced setup> Dynamic DNS
[00:38] <bumblefuzz> I found it
[00:38] <bumblefuzz> ok, now what
[00:38] <miroesq_> daftykins: thx
[00:38] <bumblefuzz> ?
[00:39] <EriC^^> bumblefuzz: what's the keycode and name for command and ctrl?
[00:39] <jophish__> daftykins: just to be sure, you don't think purging every package to do with x on the system and reinstalling ubuntu-desktop would work?
[00:39] <bumblefuzz> 133 and 37
[00:39] <bumblefuzz> I didn't catch the name
[00:39] <MWM> instead of purging ubuntu-dektop "build-essentials" might be quicker
[00:39] <EriC^^> bumblefuzz: ok, get the name
[00:39] <daftykins> jophish__: i wouldn't take that approach myself, the most work i would go to is to reinstall that last kernel, purge nvidia* again and try nvidia-352 and nvidia-prime back on and booting that old kernel; then i'd call it a day
[00:40] <daftykins> MWM: those two things have absolutely 0 to do with each other.
[00:40] <miroesq_> daftykins: yes, it's wlan1 because I am trying a second wifi dongle. the first one, which was wlan0 gave me that error, so that's why I tried a second dongle.
[00:41] <daftykins> miroesq_: cool, any better luck on wlan1? or are you trying to fix wlan0? :D
[00:41] <miroesq_> daftykins: same issue with wlan1 as with wlan0. If I fix one, I can fix the other. trying to even connect to a wifi without the scan does not work
[00:42] <bumblefuzz> Super_L and Control_L
[00:42] <bumblefuzz> now what?
[00:42] <EriC^^> bumblefuzz: ok, type xmodmap -e "keycode 133=Control_L"
[00:43] <daftykins> miroesq_: tried nm-cli ? what chipset do they both use? ("lsusb" for USB and "lspci" for PCI cards)
[00:43] <EriC^^> that'll make the super as ctrl
[00:43] <MWM> I just installed lxde and Ive lost Terminal and it seems to stumble over opening programs , is this normal for lxde ?
[00:43] <miroesq_> daftykins: the current one is [Realtek RTL8188CUS]
[00:44] <bumblefuzz> EriC^^, I did that and made 37=Super_L
[00:45] <bumblefuzz> but the keys aren't doing what they're supposed to
[00:45] <daftykins> miroesq_: full desktop ubuntu installed? which version?
[00:45] <EriC^^> bumblefuzz: hmm
[00:45] <Austin_Wall> daftykins: Still not working, took picture http://imgur.com/JGLUTqV
[00:45] <miroesq_> daftykins: ubuntu server 14.04. i am using an armv7 machine. odroid xu4
[00:45] <MWM> I can confirm trouble with the RTL8111* chipset. there is dowcumentation if you search.
[00:46] <EriC^^> bumblefuzz: type xmodmap -pke | nc termbin.com 9999
[00:46] <Austin_Wall> Also got a couple error report popups when I rebooted
[00:46] <daftykins> miroesq_: oh. sorry can't help there then, i have no idea of the status of ARM drivers for these wireless devices.
[00:46] <Austin_Wall> They didn't say what was wrong though
[00:46] <miroesq_> daftykins: thanks
[00:47] <bumblefuzz> http://termbin.com/nvwb
[00:47] <daftykins> Austin_Wall: mmm, ok that's odd - sounds like that one will require more digging :(
[00:48] <EriC^^> bumblefuzz: try xmodmap -e "keycode 206=Control_L"
[00:49] <bumblefuzz> EriC^^, still no
[00:49] <Ender_Wiggin> daftykins looks like No-IP has an open source firmware that works for my router, no sure if it'll cause issues though
[00:49] <Ender_Wiggin> http://www.noip.com/blog/2009/07/09/adding-no-ip-ddns-support-to-your-router/
[00:49] <bumblefuzz> is there a way to put all this back?
[00:49] <bumblefuzz> since it isn't changing anything?
[00:51] <Austin_Wall> daftykins: are there any logs you need to see?
[00:52] <daftykins> Austin_Wall: i think any important ones would not have been created on the failed boot - then will have been replaced on the successful boot after, unfortunately
[00:52] <EriC^^> bumblefuzz: it'll reset when you reboot, you can change it if you want right now though
[00:52] <daftykins> Ender_Wiggin: found that page yeah, DD-WRT is an open source thing, not no-ip's work, i wouldn't recommend being that drastic - was there a newer netgear version available?
[00:53] <Ender_Wiggin> Naw
[00:53] <bumblefuzz> I see
[00:53] <Ender_Wiggin> only option seems to be to create a free DynDNS and cancel it, i read they allow you to keep 1 domain for free
[00:54] <bumblefuzz> so we have to figure out what code to use to get the swap to work before making it permanent
[00:54] <bumblefuzz> ?
[00:54] <Ender_Wiggin> that or just update my server's external IP whenever my ISP changes it
[00:54] <Ender_Wiggin> not sure how often that is though
[00:54] <EriC^^> bumblefuzz: well, yeah if it works you can add that line so it runs automatically when you login
[00:54] <EriC^^> bumblefuzz: dunno why it's not working though, there's also xbindkeys which might work
[00:54] <daftykins> Ender_Wiggin: is this ubuntu system the only one you have, or?
[00:55] <Ender_Wiggin> naw I have Win10 and OSX
[00:55] <Ender_Wiggin> ive got it set up locally just needed to allow access from outside
[00:55] <cobracommand> as soon as you edit a cron in ubuntu, is it automatically enabled?
[00:55] <daftykins> Ender_Wiggin: you could just run no-ip's Windows updater then, if those others are on regularly enough to update the IP
[00:56] <daftykins> i wouldn't recommend modifying the router just for this minor use :>
[00:56] <Ender_Wiggin> no-ips updater what exactly is that?
[00:56] <Ender_Wiggin> haha true
[00:56] <Ender_Wiggin> ahh the DUC thingy?
[00:56] <daftykins> a little Windows program you type your user+pass into, which runs on boot and updates the IP whenever you boot.
[00:56] <daftykins> yep
[00:57] <Ender_Wiggin> is there any major issues with the ubuntu version? found it on their site
[00:57] <Ender_Wiggin> http://www.noip.com/support/knowledgebase/installing-the-linux-dynamic-update-client-on-ubuntu/
[00:57] <Ender_Wiggin> id like to run it on my ubuntu because i leave it on 24/7
[00:58] <jakehapp> hello
[00:58] <daftykins> thing is, you're likely going to be on one of the other PCs to be using teamspeak aren't you, since you'll be gaming or whatever...
[00:59] <daftykins> you can follow that if you like, it's just harder :>
[00:59] <Ender_Wiggin> true
[00:59] <Ender_Wiggin> haha
[00:59] <Ender_Wiggin> its just i regularly turn off my Win10 boxx
[00:59] <Ender_Wiggin> uses a LOT more power
[00:59] <daftykins> *nod*
[00:59] <daftykins> you'll need to run "sudo apt-get install build-essential" prior to following their guide
[00:59] <Ender_Wiggin> my ubuntu box is a very small 2core AMD like 300W PSU
[01:00] <Ender_Wiggin> oh boy haha
[01:00] <SchrodingersScat> !info inadyn | Ender_Wiggin
[01:00] <MWM> Im running a dual core box with small pus and not much ram too! YAY!
[01:00] <jakehapp> asdf
[01:00] <Ender_Wiggin> daftykins will that be affected by me using LXDE?
[01:01] <daftykins> Ender_Wiggin: their guide? nope
[01:01] <Ender_Wiggin> i mean the build-essential thingy
[01:01] <Ender_Wiggin> =3
[01:01] <daftykins> nope
[01:01] <Ender_Wiggin> guessing thats just an update or?
[01:02] <MWM> to my understanding "build-essential" updates/installs only the things "essential" to the OS
[01:02] <daftykins> it installs packages for compiling source code into a program, which is what their guide involves
[01:02] <daftykins> MWM: 100% wrong
[01:02] <Ender_Wiggin> ah ok ty
[01:03] <bumblefuzz> any ideas on reversing the scrolling for my mouse?
[01:03] <MWM> well if youre going t be wrong then might as well go for 100%
[01:03] <daftykins> MWM: :D
[01:04] <MWM> Ive been reading about how to get the lightest experience from ubuntu , and most guides will say to install ____-core or _____-build essintial to minimize the packages
[01:05] <daftykins> !info build-essential
[01:05] <MWM> !info build essential
[01:05] <EriC^^> bumblefuzz: which ubuntu are you using? 14.04?
[01:05] <daftykins> no you don't need to repeat bot trigger commands :)
[01:05] <MWM> !info build-essential
[01:06] <daftykins> MWM: please stop that now, you can see the same result has come up 3 times
[01:06] <dnscryptuser> Hey, is there anyone here that uses dnscrypt-proxy from ppa:xuzhen666/dnscrypt or any other? I think I found a bug, but I need someone to test something for me
[01:07] <daftykins> dnscryptuser: contact the PPA maintainer then, not an ubuntu problem
[01:07] <MWM> Im sorry I thought I only did it twice and the first had a missing hyphen
[01:08] <dnscryptuser> daftykins: I'm not saying it is a ubuntu problem, I just want someone to test before I contact him. Maybe is something on my end
[01:08] <MWM> Im missing terminal in LXDE and cant seem to find how to restore it in a search
[01:08] <SchrodingersScat> !support | dnscryptuser this is ubuntu support in #ubuntu
[01:08] <daftykins> dnscryptuser: i know, but it's what they do... :)
[01:09] <sgen> Does anyone have any suggestions for good ubuntu compatible portable printers?
[01:09] <bumblefuzz> EriC^^, 14.04.03
[01:11] <dnscryptuser> daftykins: Well, thanks then, I guess. I will try to contact him
[01:11] <MWM> nm. in lxde its called lxterminal instead of just terminal :)
[01:11] <daftykins> ;)
[01:12] <EriC^^> bumblefuzz: i've no idea, sorry
[01:13] <jakehapp> leave
[01:13] <bumblefuzz> lol, np
[01:18] <cobracommand> how do I make a cron.allow in /etc/ to enable my crontab?
[01:21] <machoo> hi guys, how to swap the keys "Mod1" with "Mod5"?
[01:23] <jophish__> daftykins: I got it working!!!
[01:23] <jophish__> nomodeset as a kernel arg did the trick
[01:23] <jophish__> and reinstalling the drivers a hundred times
[01:24] <daftykins> that's not going to load the nvidia driver 0o
[01:24] <bumblefuzz> so, how do I set up a list of commands to run at boot?
[01:24] <jophish__> daftykins: ah, I can't get past the login screen
[01:24] <jophish__> :(
[01:25] <daftykins> *nod*
[01:25] <daftykins> your /var/log/Xorg.0.log would likely confirm FBSET or VESA in use still
[01:27] <jophish__> daftykins: you're quite right. I got overly excited when I heard the little ubuntu jingle
[01:29] <daftykins> :(
[01:31] <meem> How do i convert binary with decimal point to decimal ? like this one 101001.111
[01:33] <jophish__> although I've removed every nvidia package dpkg -l | grep nvidia is empty Xorg.0.log is still littered with nvidia references
[01:34] <miroesq_> i am unable to use mkdir to make a directory within /home. i am logged as root
[01:35] <meem_> How do i convert binary with decimal point to decimal ? like this one 101001.111 ?
[01:35] <egggs> hi just installed debian jessie all was good, but i lost sound it plays in the app just dont make it to speaker or headphones
[01:40] <jophish__> thanks for all your help daftykins, I appreciate it
[01:40] <jophish__> time for sleep now though I think
[01:40] <Krenair> gnome-system-monitor's CPU history graph shows very high CPU usage, but the processes table does not account for all of it
[01:41] <daftykins> jophish__: np, laters o/
[01:41] <daftykins> egggs: not a debian channel :)
[01:41] <daftykins> meem_: not a homework channel i'm afraid
[01:42] <egggs> oh man thats embarrassing thanks
[01:44] <Bashing-om> jophish__: A thought .. remove /etc/X11/xorg.conf , if you no longer have an Nvidia driover active .
[01:46] <Krenair> How can I figure out what is using the CPU?
[01:47] <Bashing-om> Krenair: 1st look is from the terminal command 'top' .
[01:55] <meem_> daftykins ; oh come on
[01:55] <qubits> Hey guys
[01:55] <daftykins> meem_: i'm serious.
[01:55] <qubits> How's the support leve in here
[01:56] <meem_> daftykins ; me too
[01:56] <daftykins> !ot | meem_ :)
[01:58] <jophish__> Bashing-om: yeah, tried that, no luck
[01:59] <jophish__> daftykins: I tried installing 4.2.0-16 but that's even worse. I always get to the login screen, but can't get past. I can't get a tty either though
[01:59] <daftykins> heh, that's not sleep at all
[01:59] <jophish__> My dog wanted to go outside one last time, so I had some time
[02:00] <qubits> I reinstalled ubuntu with encrypted lvm and something strange happened to my raid 0 array, it was supposed to go on a separate drive
[02:00] <qubits> Now one of my drives is removed from the array as failed
[02:01] <qubits> I have dm-0 and dm-1 now and they should've been the same thing, I am trying to see what drive they mapped to but it says 253,1? I don't see that in ls -Al /dev/
[02:01] <Sonderblade> can "apt-get remove" be customized so that it automatically removes packages' /etc configurations?
[02:01] <qubits> dmsetup is reporting that / is on the proper drive so what happened to my raid
[02:02] <daftykins> Sonderblade: just use purge instead, that's what it's for.
[02:03] <qubits> I guess in a nutshell what I'm asking is how do I non destructively rebuild the raid 0
[02:04] <qubits> The bios read failed because one of the drives reports non member
[02:04] <daftykins> is this intel chipset RAID or mdadm?
[02:04] <qubits> mdadm i believe
[02:04] <daftykins> if so, anything BIOS level wouldn't know about a disk being a member or not
[02:04] <daftykins> !raid
[02:05] <daftykins> if the OS is installed to them, i'd poke around from a live session of desktop
[02:06] <qubits> no its storage
[02:06] <daftykins> probably easier from live anyway
[02:09] <meem> #ubuntu-offtopic
[02:10] <qubits> md126 : inactive sdc[0]
[02:11] <qubits> 976759940 blocks super external:/md127/ // md127 : inactive sdc[1](S) sdb[0](S // 5288 blocks super external:imsm
[02:11] <qubits> i dont know if two personalities is normal but 126 seems to reference 127 and md127 has a list of both drives but is inactive
[02:13] <qubits> State : active, FAILED, Not Started
[02:13] <qubits> Can I force start it or do I need to do something in the bios
[02:16] <tinyoptik> hows ubuntu going
[02:18] <tinyoptik> how much are 32" monitors cost
[02:18] <tinyoptik> i gotta look that up on google or pricewatch or something
[02:20] <Mr_Cyclops> Hello All, do we have an expert Ubuntu user here? I am struggling with something and need help
[02:21] <SchrodingersScat> !ask | Mr_Cyclops
[02:21] <Mr_Cyclops> :-) thanks
[02:22] <Mr_Cyclops> Ubuntu 15.10 ... if I delete a file from any file manager (except Dolphin), and that directory is a softlink, the file manager crashes
[02:22] <Mr_Cyclops> Upgraded the whole system, up to date, but no change ...
[02:22] <Mr_Cyclops> and I dont get this error at all if that directory is not a soft=linked directory
[02:22] <Mr_Cyclops> any clues?
[02:24] <SchrodingersScat> !bugs | Mr_Cyclops, I don't have any clues.
[02:25] <Mr_Cyclops> Thank you, will definitely try that
[02:25] <Mr_Cyclops> another issue .... Citrix (which I suppose a known thing ) ... here are the details
[02:25] <SchrodingersScat> thunar just now didn't crash while deleting symlinked directory
[02:25] <Mr_Cyclops> Right now I am running Xubuntu 15.04 64 bit, and installed the icaclient from the Citrix's official website
[02:26] <Mr_Cyclops> but when I click on the link that should fork/open the .ica file, it doesn't work at all
[02:26] <Mr_Cyclops> followed many blogs n tried various things, no joy. If you could suggest a blog/URL that would help best to resolve this, thanks
[02:26] <Mr_Cyclops> thunar, you tried in 15.10 ?
[02:27] <Mr_Cyclops> Last time I tried all file managers was like 2 weeks ago, if this was fixed ... good for me, I will try again in a VM
[02:28] <Mr_Cyclops> SchrodingersScat, try not to delete the symlinked directory, but some file inside the symlinked directory, see if it crashes, tx
[02:28] <SchrodingersScat> Mr_Cyclops: yep, xubuntu 15.10, I've never had that problem, it also doesn't come up for me that much.
[02:29] <SchrodingersScat> Mr_Cyclops: did a touch 1 2 3 in the symlinked directory, then deleted it in thunar, nothing unexpected happened.
[02:30] <Mr_Cyclops> sounds great! I will try again today, tx for trying it out for me
[02:30] <Mr_Cyclops> Any suggestions on an effective URL for Citrix/.
[02:30] <Mr_Cyclops> ?
[02:32] <rritoch> Where can I find the window manager scripts that are executed when a user logs in? (plasma, gnome, xfce, etc)
[02:32] <Mr_Cyclops> rritoch, I think you can to Control Center, or Settings Manager, look for Startup applications, and add it manually
[02:33] <Mr_Cyclops> Typically it gives u a dialoge box with 3 text boxes, to choose a Name, Description and command (Suggest to simply the absolute/full path of the command/binary/script) tat you want to run at login
[02:36] <Demannu> Quick question: Thinking about using a local box I have here to bring internet in through wireless and then have a DHCP and DNS server share the wireless connection to a different subnet through ethernet. I believe this is plausible yes?
[02:37] <rritoch> Mr_Cyclops: Thanks, but the specific problem is that if I launch "Plasma" manually it works, but if I login to it from sddm the X server goes black during initialization
[02:38] <rritoch> Mr_Cyclops: XFCE login from sddm works, so I believe the problem is with the plasma "start" script executed by SDDM. I just don't know where to find it.
[02:39] <Mr_Cyclops> rritoch, Ok, I am not a KDE user, can't help much with that, hopefully someone else in this forum might, wait and see if someone replies, tx
[02:42] <rritoch> Found it, finally. /usr/share/xsessions
[02:43] <Mr_Cyclops> tx for sharing
[02:47] <rritoch> Demannu: Yes that is possible. You just need to configure the DHCP server to serve the lan. Typically you would need a DHCP client setup on the wireless device unless you use a static IP outside the wireless DHCP allocated IP range and know the IP address of the wireless router.
[02:48] <rritoch> Demannu: Beyond that, you probably need to setup your firewall to NAT traffic from the local network to the wireless.
[02:49] <NYTimes> hey how can I know if my OS is i686 or x86_64 and what does that even mean ? kinda confused here ;@)
[02:50] <rritoch> NYTimes: i686 = 32bit, x86_64 = 64 bit. , if you type 'uname -a' in a shell it should tell you which your setup for.
[02:50] <mastershake> hey guys im having a tiny issue over here and was wondering if anyone could help..
[02:51] <Mr_Cyclops> go ahead mastershake
[02:51] <Demannu> rritoch: I'm looking for this box to travel with me and act as a project bench/network services provider while in the field, so it's assumed DHCP on the wireless network. Want to make a secure subnet for the workbench/dev environment
[02:51] <mastershake> i have an important .rar im trying to open that i created on Win8.1 and locked it with a password, but im having trouble opening it now.
[02:51] <mastershake> its just empty when i open it up
[02:51] <Pinkamena_D> I have a secondary windows partition. on /dev/sda1 (ubuntu on /dev/sda2) I wanted more room so I got a second hard drive for windows. I used clonezilla to copy over /dev/sda1 to /dev/sdb1. I want to get it working before deleting the old partition.
[02:51] <Mr_Cyclops> NYTimes, the command is uname -i
[02:51] <Mr_Cyclops> or better just type uname -a
[02:51] <reisio> Pinkamena_D: be simpler to migrate Ubuntu
[02:52] <reisio> far simpler
[02:52] <NYTimes> rritoch: thank you what a command so usefull thx
[02:52] <rritoch> Demannu: In that case you setup your wireless connection with DHCP, setup a DHCP server on the lan, and setup your firewall to NAT between LAN and Wireless (internet).
[02:52] <Pinkamena_D> Grubcfg makes an entry tor /dev/sdb1 automatically, but for some reason when you select it it actually boots to /dev/sda1
[02:53] <NYTimes> Mr_Cyclops: it returns "unknown"
[02:53] <reisio> Pinkamena_D: you cloned it, so Windows thinks it's on the first device
[02:53] <reisio> Pinkamena_D: try switching the drive order
[02:53] <Pinkamena_D> I want the bigger (sda) drive for ubuntu.
[02:53] <reisio> Pinkamena_D: try switching the drive order
[02:53] <mastershake> any ideas ?
[02:53] <rritoch> Demannu: I beleive there are some "complexities" to setting up NAT to a dynamic IP since firewall rules are by IP address though. It is likely you'll need to code some of your own scripts, or find one online that's pre-built for that purpose.
[02:53] <Pinkamena_D> in grub, or bios, or somewhere else?
[02:54] <reisio> Pinkamena_D: bios if you can there
[02:54] <reisio> Pinkamena_D: otherwise simply switch the cables
[02:54] <reisio> mastershake: about what
[02:55] <rritoch> NYTimes: At least that is how things were with ipchains some 15 years ago... My linux/unix knowledge is a bit dusty.
[02:55] <rritoch> err ^^ Demannu
[02:55] <mastershake> reisio, my password protected .rar i created on win8.1 is empty when i goto open it on xubuntu and doesnt prompt for pw
[02:55] <Pinkamena_D> ill try it and come and complain if it fails. If the world ends before I am done trying, thanks for the tip.
[02:55] <reisio> mastershake: what does 'file' say it is?
[02:55] <mchelen> i keep getting "The following packages cannot be authenticated!" even after running `apt-get update` and `apt-key update` any ideas?
[02:55] <reisio> Pinkamena_D: :)
[02:56] <mastershake> RAR data archive, v6c
[02:56] <EriC^^> mchelen: change the mirror maybe
[02:56] <Demannu> rritoch: I'm just installing Ubuntu server now on the box, I'll experiment with that and see what I can come up with. I know for a fact that a lot of my worksites use wildly different subnet setups, so I may need to automate it somehow.
[02:57] <Demannu> I mean, it's not terribly hard once I think about it. Simply grab the current IP and replace in a template then update NAT rules that way
[02:57] <reisio> mastershake: I doubt that
[02:58] <mastershake> doubt what?
[02:58] <mchelen> EriC^^: ok let me try
[02:58] <reisio> mastershake: your answer
[02:58] <reisio> mastershake: do you have unrar? dpkg -L unrar
[02:58] <NYTimes> rritoch: but at
[02:59] <mchelen> EriC^^: ah yep that did it, thanks!
[02:59] <mastershake> what does that command do?
[02:59] <EriC^^> mchelen: no problem
[02:59] <reisio> mastershake: lists files if you have unrar
[02:59] <NYTimes> least u know what u talk about which is not my case thank you rritoch
[03:01] <rritoch> Demannu: Probably, also take a look @ https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reserved_IP_addresses which may provide you with some "options". It's fairly safe to assume that your connection points are following "proper" networking policies. So if you bend a few rules, such as using the 100.64.0.0/10 range, you can fairly safely assume you won't conflict with your connection points.
[03:01] <mastershake> okay reisio it listed a handfull of files in /usr/share
[03:01] <pebe> test
[03:02] <reisio> mastershake: how about a binary? dpkg -L unrar | egrep -i 'bin|opt'
[03:02] <Demannu> rritoch: That's a fantastic avenue, I'll investigate that too. I'll report back once I test it out
[03:03] <Demannu> Found a really neat micro form factor computer, traded a client for it. It's only an atom, but it's gonna be a great gateway/services box
[03:03] <Demannu> It's roughly the size of a shoebox
[03:03] <mastershake> reisio, it said /usr/bin and then /usr/bin/unrar-nonfre
[03:03] <Demannu> But perhaps 3/4ths of the width
[03:03] <reisio> sounds large
[03:03] <Demannu> Let me measure.
[03:03] <mastershake> i dont understand
[03:04] <reisio> mastershake: what's 'unrar l path/to/your/file' say?
[03:04] <mastershake> kindly excuse my ignorance, i havent used linux in a while.
[03:04] <Demannu> (inches) 14 length, 8 width, 6.25 high
[03:05] <reisio> sounds enormous :)
[03:05] <reisio> but no additional cost
[03:05] <coraxx> Hello everyone ... question .... upgrading Ubuntu from 12.04 to 14.04, how does one upgrade the postgresql data files, so they work with Ubuntu 14.04 postgresql-version (9.3) ?
[03:06] <Demannu> I was thinking about scooping a PiZero, I've already got a wireless+ethernet shield that would work with it. That may do everything I need as well for about $20
[03:06] <reisio> coraxx: you'll have to read postgresql's docs for that
[03:06] <reisio> coraxx: or the docs for whatever software you're using the DB/s with
[03:07] <coraxx> reisio: The Docs refers to a tool called pg_upgrade that Ubuntu 14.04 will not install :-(
[03:07] <reisio> coraxx: ask apt-file where it is
[03:08] <mastershake> "reisio, unknown option l"
[03:08] <coraxx> reisio: its in a package that conflicts with the postgresql package. The package is called postgres-xc ...and requires that "postgresql" is removed upon installation.
[03:09] <reisio> mastershake: okay, try this instead: 'unrar-nonfree l path/to/your/file' say?
[03:10] <mastershake> got it thanks reisio !!!!
[03:12] <reisio> mastershake: you probably have unrar-free installed; it's useless, run this: sudo apt-get remove unrar-free
[03:12] <freakyy> what is this taskbar icon bar in the lower left in ubuntu-gnome? is there a way i can merge it to the top taskbar or how its called?
[03:12] <reisio> and hopefully that, or that plus sudo apt-get install --reinstall unrar will fix your default 'unrar'
[03:18] <Dougie187> Anyone ever seen this issue before? http://pastebin.com/aFPX4b2b
[03:18] <Dougie187> my laptop won't recognize usb devices.
[03:19] <Dougie187> Using 15.10
[03:21] <reisio> Dougie187: how many ports?
[03:21] <Dougie187> Three total
[03:21] <reisio> none work?
[03:22] <Dougie187> Nope, I'm trying to plug in a usb HDD
[03:22] <Dougie187> I can try with a different device though
[03:22] <OneM_Industries> Hey, I am having an issue with drivers.
[03:22] <OneM_Industries> Video card drivers*
[03:23] <reisio> OneM_Industries: neat
[03:23] <Dougie187> Here's maybe some more useful information: http://pastebin.com/CHTt098A
[03:23] <reisio> Dougie187: so you tried them all
[03:23] <Dougie187> That's the full `dmesg | grep usb`
[03:23] <rritoch> Demannu: Well, I've never tried it, but in theory for a configuration like yours a VPS could greatly help, if the hardware can support a VPS. With the aid of a VPS it should be possible to setup your network as Wireless (Lan) > Virtual Network (Carrier-Grade-NAT IP range) > Eithernet (valid lan), with a configuration like that you have a valid lan comming in, a valid lan comming out
[03:23] <Dougie187> Yes, I tried all of them.
[03:23] <OneM_Industries> I set it to the x.org drivers, and now the machine stalls after asking if I want to boot into ubuntu or memtest.
[03:25] <OneM_Industries> It has a blinking underline on the top left corner of the screen, and is not responding.
[03:25] <Demannu> rritoch: I believe I could make a lightweight one using a docker container.
[03:25] <Sonderblade> lightdm fails to start and i have this message in the log: DEBUG: Seat: Can't find session 'gnome-xmonad' any idea how to solve that?
[03:26] <OneM_Industries> Anyone know how to set the drivers back to a different set?
[03:26] <rritoch> Demannu: The only time the system wouldn't work would be if you connected to a carrier grade NAT network which also uses the same IP range as you, as long as you stick with class C lan, the chances of a conflict would be infintisimal. Heck if you coded it as a mobile app such a configuration could theoretically create a global peer-to-peer internet.
[03:27] <Bashing-om> OneM_Industries: A /etc/X11/xorg.conf used to be used and now with open source not required ??
[03:27] <OneM_Industries> What?
[03:28] <OneM_Industries> I was using the Nvidia drivers. Then I switched to X.ORG. Now the machine won't boot.
[03:29] <Bashing-om> OneM_Industries: Was there that file in a former proprietary driver install ? open source does not use it amd really messes with X when it is parsed .
[03:29] <OneM_Industries> I do not know.
[03:29] <rritoch> Demannu: The only real complexity with a global peer to peer network would be creating the routing policies... It is something I'd love to do, but while I can figure out the connectivity, I don't know any algorithm that could handle the routing.
[03:29] <OneM_Industries> I can find out though.
[03:30] <Bashing-om> OneM_Industries: Boot the recovery console and ' ls -al /etc/X11/xorg.conf ' .
[03:31] <OneM_Industries> There is no such file.
[03:32] <Jimu> W: Failed to fetch http://extras.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/wily/main/binary-i386/Packages 404 Not Found [IP: 91.189.92.152 80]
[03:32] <Dougie187> reisio: I tried all with another device and they still fail
[03:33] <Aprel> Can ffproxy be used to throttle/rate limit?
[03:33] <OneM_Industries> Bashing-om: ls: cannot access /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[03:33] <reisio> Aprel: I doubt something with 'proxy' in its name has that particular innate purpose
[03:33] <reisio> Aprel: try trickle
[03:33] <OneM_Industries> That is what it returned when I ran that command.
[03:34] <Bashing-om> OneM_Industries: Any driver al all loaded ' sudo lshw -C display ' . No xorg file in this instance is a good thing .
[03:34] <Jimu> Wait, why am I getting errors fetching binary-i386 stuff on a 64 bit install?
[03:35] <Viking667> 'llo all. Is there an image viewer that can take a file containing a list of images as an argument?
[03:35] <reisio> Jimu: you tell us
[03:35] <Viking667> i.e. somemagicimageviewer -f myfileof-imagenames.txt
[03:35] <Aprel> hmmm... My mistake. I figured thottling was a common feature of proxies. Looking into trickle. Thanks reisio
[03:35] <OneM_Industries> Bashing-om: About to get you the result of that, hold on.
[03:36] <Viking667> it seems eog (my everyday image viewer) is a bit lightweight in that respect.
[03:36] <reisio> Aprel: in the Unix world (and anyplace sane), an app that does more than a single job is a silly app
[03:36] <Jimu> reisio: i wish i could. the "About This Computer" says it's 64 bit, I installed it from a 64-bit ISO... do I need to edit my sources.list?
[03:37] <Viking667> reisio: so, that means that most of the "apps" we have today (if you stretch the definition some) would then be "silly"?
[03:37] <reisio> Jimu: what's the problem?
[03:37] <Jimu> Viking667: don't get into this argument
[03:37] <reisio> Viking667: yup
[03:37] <Viking667> Can't say I'd disagree much there, though most people would
[03:38] <OneM_Industries> Bashing-om: Here you go! http://imgur.com/UyqGVjo
[03:38] <Viking667> I guess we've all got too used to fully-GUI applications that sing and dance too.
[03:38] <Bashing-om> OneM_Industries: Look'n .
[03:38] <Viking667> ... instead of stringing together 19 separate commands for one file.
[03:38] <Jimu> Linux is just so sprawling... it's hard to get a grip on
[03:38] <Viking667> mmm. I found that with Windows.
[03:39] <Jimu> which DE? which DE launcher? Why is this 64 bit version giving me apt-get errors about i386 files? 404 errors, nonetheless?
[03:40] <Bashing-om> one ya have a FGLRX driver loaded .. and no config file . What release is this , and again what do you want to do ?
[03:40] <reisio> Jimu: what's the error?
[03:40] <OneM_Industries> 14.04, load a driver that actually works.
[03:40] <Jimu> Also, I think the Ubuntu Application Updater is not very well integrated with apt-get, so you have sync issues about what needs updating
[03:41] <Jimu> W: Failed to fetch http://extras.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/wily/main/binary-i386/Packages 404 Not Found [IP: 91.189.92.152 80]
[03:41] <Jimu> reisio:
[03:41] <Viking667> ... now that's weird...
[03:41] <reisio> Jimu: 404 just means it isn't there
[03:42] <Viking667> wily's not on that list
[03:42] <Jimu> Indeed, and this is a fresh image I downloaded, so...what happened there? Server down?
[03:42] <Viking667> All I have here is Precise to Utopic.
[03:42] <Viking667> (and that's from that site linked above)
[03:43] <reisio> Jimu: it says 'Packages' and not 'Packages.gz'?
[03:43] <Jimu> yes
[03:43] <reisio> okay, so someone thought they'd be all smart and gzip a file that apps loo for without it being gzipped
[03:43] <reisio> look* for
[03:43] <Bashing-om> OneM_Industries: Try: ' sudo amdconfig --initial ' If yoy are at the recomvery console will have to remount the OS for R/W .
[03:43] <Viking667> reisio: actualy, that's not the only issue. wily isn't even AT the site.
[03:44] <reisio> Viking667: irrelevant, it's at plenty of sites
[03:44] <Viking667> true, but he's looking for wily "extras"
[03:44] <Jimu> what counts as "extras" anyway?
[03:44] <Viking667> ... not multiverse/universe.
[03:45] <OneM_Industries> Bashing-om: How would I remount the OS to do so?
[03:49] <Viking667> It almost looks like they removed "extras", I don't have it here in my sources.
[03:49] <OneM_Industries> Bashing-om: Nevermind, figured it out.
[03:49] <Bashing-om> OneM_Industries: mount -o remount,rw / (Note there is no space after the comma.
[03:50] <OneM_Industries> amdconfig: command not found.
[03:51] <Viking667> weird. so it's saying that the fglrx package never installed?
[03:51] <Bashing-om> OneM_Industries: ' dpkg -l | grep fglrx ' let;s see what is installed .
[03:51] <OneM_Industries> I don't know.
[03:52] <Viking667> OneM: try this at a Terminal: dpkg -l fglrx
[03:52] <reisio> OneM_Industries: can always ask apt-file what provides it
[03:52] <Viking667> fglrx provides that binary.
[03:52] <Viking667> ... I just looked it up about 40 seconds ago
[03:53] <OneM_Industries> I have the output, hold on.
[03:53] <reisio> Viking667: now he just needs you installed locally
[03:53] <OneM_Industries> Heh, yep.
[03:54] <Viking667> sorry dude.
[03:54] <Viking667> I've already been criticised enough times.
[03:54] <reisio> haven't we all :p
[03:54] <OneM_Industries> http://imgur.com/JZFZJbx
[03:54] <OneM_Industries> ^ The output.
[03:55] <Viking667> OneM_Industries: check out your /etc/apt/sources.list and /etc/apt/sources.list.d/* (i.e. all the files in there) for any referring to "extras"
[03:57] <Bashing-om> OneM_Industries: Suits my thought process better to pastebin the terminal putput of ' dpkg -l | grep fglrx ' .
[03:58] <OneM_Industries> Bashing-om: I just posted a photo of that output.
[03:58] <Viking667> Seems like fglrx-core installed, but fglrx didn't.
[03:59] <anon2442> wassup
[03:59] <OerHeks> whatsapp?
[03:59] <anon2442> nm
[03:59] <Viking667> nm: no input files, exiting
[04:00] <anon2442> lol drone is holding down the fort?
[04:00] <OneM_Industries> YAY!
[04:00] <Viking667> that must be one absolutely HUGE drone...
[04:00] <Viking667> OneM_Industries: hm?
[04:00] <anon2442> haha
[04:01] <OneM_Industries> Installed fglrx, ran amdconfig --initial, and it works!
[04:01] <Viking667> good.
[04:01] <Viking667> Right, I'll head on back to my first question.
[04:03] <mard> helloworld(from diy-irc-client, sorry for bother)
[04:03] <anon2442> diy?
[04:04] <Viking667> I've got a list of files (png, in this case) in a text file, how do I get eog to show me all those files as one large list? (all the files are scattered throughout multiple directories)
[04:06] <mard> yep! only command line without GUI
[04:06] <Bashing-om> Viking667: Something like ' sudo find / -name "*.png" > myfile ' ?
[04:06] <reisio> Viking667: could try cat file | xargs eog
[04:06] <Viking667> bashingthat's what I did
[04:06] <Viking667> meh.
[04:06] <anon2442> i always try ' echo penis ' first
[04:06] <Viking667> Bashing-om: that's what I did to get "myoutput"
[04:07] <Viking667> I'll try the xargs thing, I'd forgotten about that command.
[04:07] <reisio> or eog /dev/stdin < file
[04:07] <reisio> kinda depends on what eog does with stdin
[04:07] <Viking667> reisio: ha. I didn't think of that either... mind you, eog is having a little trouble, myoutput.txt happens to be 10Mb in size.
[04:07] <reisio> if it's a sane app, it'll work like so: cat file | eog
[04:08] <reisio> if it's only slightly less sane: cat file | eog -
[04:08] <reisio> if it's only slightly less sane: cat file | eog /dev/stdin
[04:08] <Viking667> xargs seems to work.
[04:08] <reisio> Viking667: what're you looking at them for?
[04:08] <Viking667> Trying to find a particular picture.
[04:09] <Viking667> the images are from mapcrafter, so they're a whole LOT of png tiles for a minecraft mapping program.
[04:09] <reisio> Viking667: and why're you viewing them
[04:09] <Viking667> because I want to?
[04:10] <reisio> Viking667: oh, then use /usr/bin/justcuz
[04:10] <reisio> seriously, do you want to scrutinize them individually?
[04:10] <anon2442> .shoot
[04:10] <Viking667> nope, no such file
[04:10] <Viking667> reisio: seriously, yes. I don't have much choice.
[04:10] <reisio> Viking667: why not?
[04:10] <reisio> oh trying to find a particular picture
[04:10] <reisio> which'n?
[04:11] <Viking667> I'm trying to find specifically WHICH tile shows the area I'm interested in.
[04:11] <Viking667> I mapped a large minecraft world (10k by 10k blocks)
[04:12] <reisio> so it's a screenshot of the world?
[04:12] <anon2442> if you get pissed off and need a laugh, program your computer to say "justin bieber is sexy, im a belieber." cracks me up every fucking time
[04:12] <Viking667> not ... screenshot, more a map from glued-together png pieces.
[04:12] <OneM_Industries> !offtopic anon2442
[04:12] <OneM_Industries> !offtopic | anon2442
[04:13] <anon2442> !offtopic OneM_Industries
[04:13] <anon2442> !offtopic | OneM_Industries
[04:15] <Viking667> no way I could put all the PNGs into one folder, as they're all named stuff like 1.png, 2.png etc...
[04:15] <reisio> Viking667: so?
[04:16] <Viking667> If I could have done that (i.e. they all differed by name) then I would simply have used nautilus or something similar
[04:17] <reisio> you can do that, but a list of each file is just as good
[04:17] <Viking667> A file browser doesn't do too well being fed that
[04:17] <reisio> it could, but that's not the point
[04:17] <reisio> would you rather use nautilus than eog?
[04:17] <Viking667> I was sort of looking for a gallery view, but I can't do that, at least with nautilus.
[04:18] <Viking667> nautilus only shows you one folder at a time, because that's what it was built for.
[04:18] <reisio> folder can be anything you want, however
[04:18] <Viking667> It doesn't show you ONE window with x images (at a time) when those images are all scattered around.
[04:19] <reisio> Viking667: so that's a "yes"?
[04:20] <anon2442> !mess
[04:20] <Viking667> I want a gallery, so I can scan multiple images in one sweep, but I'm not going to end up with that.
[04:21] <reisio> Viking667: http://www.imagemagick.org/Usage/montage/
[04:22] <Viking667> reisio: figures. Thanks.
[04:22] <tjsunderhaus> t
[04:25] <anon2442> !offtopic | OneM_Industries
[04:25] <anon2442> !offtopic | OneM_Industries
[04:25] <anon2442> !offtopic | OneM_Industries
[04:25] <anon2442> a
[04:25] <anon2442> !offtopic | OneM_Industries
[04:25] <anon2442> !offtopic | OneM_Industries
[04:25] <OneM_Industries> Guess who is about to be on my ignore list.
[04:26] * Viking667 gives up... 430,000 images to peruse.
[04:27] <reisio> persue for what :p
[04:28] <bitch> sup
[04:28] <bitch> lol Drone xD
[04:28] <bitch> !offtopic | OneM_Industries
[04:28] <bitch> !offtopic | OneM_Industries
[04:28] <OneM_Industries> Sigh.
[04:29] <OneM_Industries> People.
[04:37] <rew> Anyone knows how to get this system info? http://askubuntu.com/questions/703415/command-line-to-get-this-system-information
[04:38] <reisio> rew: don't cross post
[04:38] <rew> reisio: sorry. I will exit the other channel.
[04:38] <reisio> rew: look at /etc/issue
[04:38] <rew> reisio: i have just exited
[04:38] <OerHeks> rew, that is the motd
[04:39] <rew> OerHeks: what is motd?
[04:39] <Viking667> message of the day
[04:40] <rew> motd from digitalocean image?
[04:41] <reisio> rew: where else
[04:42] <Viking667> Log in, check out what's inside /etc/issue. The man pages are remarkably sparse on motd(5) or issue(5)
[04:43] <rew> inside /etc/issue, i get "Ubuntu 14.04.3 LTS \n \l"
[04:45] <Viking667> If this was a far earlier release of linux, I would have suggested /etc/rc but I know that won't work in this case.
[04:45] <reisio> grep -ir 'graph this data' /etc/
[04:46] <OerHeks> wild guess: /etc/update-motd.d/*
[04:47] <rew> reisio: Tried grep -ir 'graph this data' /etc/, nothing returned
[04:47] <OerHeks> http://askubuntu.com/questions/105689/how-is-etc-motd-updated
[04:47] <reisio> rew: probably in your rc file, then
[04:48] <reisio> rew: or try grep -R
[04:51] <rew> locate motd is useful
[04:51] <rritoch> I know this is somewhat a KDE issue, but if I remove (rename) ~/.kde and ~/.config will the desktop manager(s) rebuild them when I login? I'm quite sure my user account configurations are corrupt.
[04:55] <rritoch> Another dead-end. It rebuilt ~/.kde and ~/.config but still doesn't work
[05:04] <static_Anon> Hey
[05:04] <samsruti> Hey guys
[05:05] <samsruti> i have silly doubt :P
[05:05] <Viking667> Ah well, I'm off.
[05:05] <samsruti> I m very new to this community
[05:05] <samsruti> which release of Ubuntu is good for developers
[05:06] <k1l_> samsruti: try 15.10
[05:06] <Bashing-om> samsruti: Depends on the focus of your development .
[05:06] <samsruti> suppose i want to fix a bug and i saw that it was tested on 15.04
[05:07] <samsruti> what should i do at that time
[05:08] <Bashing-om> samsruti: Install 15.10 , see if the bug has been resolved .
[05:09] <OerHeks> 2 months support left on 15.04 ..
[05:09] <samsruti> cool then
[05:10] <samsruti> thanks :)
[05:10] <samsruti> so can i dual boot 15.10 with Win8 ?
[05:12] <Bashing-om> !dual boot | samsruti
[05:12] <samsruti> thanks :)
[05:12] <CyborgCygnus> Trying to upgrade from Ubuntu 14.04lts to 15.04 & this is the error that I'm getting http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/13538886/
[05:14] <artisanIndia> is there any tool by which I can scan for proxy servers on a given range of IP addresses
[05:14] <samsruti> i can try this in VM and can dual boot 15.10 :)
[05:14] <Bashing-om> !eol | CyborgCygnus Got to go through the EOL 14.10 ::
Yeah but how would I skip straight to 15:10 then?
[05:18] <Bashing-om> CyborgCygnus: Only means then is a fresh install . OR await the release of 16.04. then is a direct upgrade 14.04 to 16.04. LTS to LTS releases .
Oh so you meant I needed to go from 14.04 > 14.10 > 15.04 > 15.10? Cause I'm on 14.04 & that updater is trying to put me straight on 15.04.
[05:21] <Bashing-om> CyborgCygnus: Correct .. and the updater is trying to go to 14.10 whuch is ROL and the repository is not there . ya got to do the EOL upgrade @ 14.10 .
[05:22] <Bashing-om> ROL/EOL **
[05:22] <badbodh> LOL
So do I just have to do a clean install of the latest? So is it impossible to do the upgrade that I'm attempting, what would you recommend I do?
[05:23] <badbodh> update manager should show 15.10 , dunno why yours is stuck on 15.04
[05:24] <badbodh> maybe check for updates again
[05:24] <testingforreason> Odd idea: I've written a "shell script", (not really, just a list of a handful of commands that take forever), and started running it. While it's running Command 1, I've realized that I have listed command 2 and 3 are backwards. Can I allow it to finish command 1, and stop before running command 2 (really3)?
[05:24] <rritoch> CyborgCygnus: I can't recommend it, but you CAN technically update your /etc/apt/sources.list file to the latest release, and do apt-get update, apt-get upgrade, apt-get dist-upgrade. It is a dirty business that can make your system unstable. I'm sure that's why my system is unstable because I went from debian to ubuntu trusty up to vivid this way, wily was my first real upgrade and it crashed ...
[05:24] <rritoch> @ 66% so I ended up needing to finish the upgrade manually.
[05:25] <badbodh> testingforreason, are you testing our programming skills ? some of us have none. yet better with linux than you are :P
[05:25] <Bashing-om> CyborgCygnus: The tutorial gives instruction . you must go the EOL route. Personally ... As 16.04 is but a few months away, I would wait .
[05:27] <testingforreason> Not a programming thing. I've just set a few large files to download, and then unzip them, and so on. I already started this, and then realized I mixed up the order on the later commands about an hour into the download. It's still got another hour to go, which I don't want to waste.
[05:28] <testingforreason> I was hoping for something along the lines of ctrl-z (allow current command to finish running, halt before second command)
[05:28] <testingforreason> that is, not that ctrl-z does that, but what I'm looking for.
[05:30] <testingforreason> Just looking for a finer control on a running script than I know of.
[05:31] <badbodh> tricky, your script is open in bash so can;t edit it without killing bash. and killing bash means your first command dies too.
[05:34] <LonelyDanbo> uh... how do I find drivers for my motherboard? The official website only has drivers for Windows. I was hoping drivers would allow me to see CPU and possibly northbridge chip temperatures.
[05:35] <gso> LonelyDanbo, Usually "lm-sensors" allows you to do that... I find it often has generic support for most sensors
[05:36] <LonelyDanbo> gso, the generic support is only showing 1 result for a k10temp-pci PCI adapter, with very low temperatures.
[05:37] <LonelyDanbo> well, it has a 2nd result, fam15h_power-pci but it only reports wattage rather than temperature.
[05:37] <badbodh> LonelyDanbo, did you run "sudo sensors-detect" first ?
[05:37] <LonelyDanbo> badbodh, I did. It only detected the two things I already had.
[05:37] <LonelyDanbo> Although I skipped the last step. I figured it wouldn't be relevant to anything onboard.
[05:38] <badbodh> then that's all you can possibly have. are you sure your mobo has more sensors embedded on it ?
[05:38] <LonelyDanbo> well I'm sure my video card does, because nvidia-settings reports the tempature and fan speed.
[05:38] <badbodh> adding stuff on modules blah blah? that's the most important part. that saves whatever you detect :D
[05:39] <badbodh> you don;t skip you say yes to everything
[05:40] <LonelyDanbo> it always finishes with "no modules to load, skipping modules configuration"
[05:41] <LonelyDanbo> despite answering yes to everything.
[05:41] <badbodh> hmm. that means it didn;t detect any sensor.
[05:44] <LonelyDanbo> badbodh, it did show a "yes" result for... family 'ITE'. also it did a bunch of scans of NVIDIA which I don't remember it doing last time, and yet it didn't find anything.
[05:45] <badbodh> at final step it basically adds some modules to some config file (or symlinks to /etc/systemd)
[05:45] <badbodh> then you either reboot or manually start those modules (systemctl start something)
[05:46] <badbodh> if you could run sensors-detect again and share it all on pastebin we could look for some fault
[05:52] <amicrawler> can any body help me been fighting this dumb wifi install lenova g50 amd 64 a8
[05:53] <rritoch> Problem solved, I needed to delete ~/.local/share/kscreen . This bug was apparently already reported https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=343674
[05:53] <amicrawler> here is what i have 01:00.0 Network controller [0280]: Qualcomm Atheros Device [168c:0041] (rev 20)
[05:54] <rritoch> It would be nice if the upgrade process deleted garbage like this for you, it was pure luck that I found that bug report.
[05:54] <amicrawler> Network controller: Qualcomm Atheros Device 0041 (rev 20)
[05:55] <amicrawler> what do i from here ?
[06:14] <silancer> irc.zombiesec.net
[06:16] <silancer> irc://irc.zombiesec.net/ZOMBIESEC
[06:28] <edd> hi I just connected my macbook;s hdd via an external usb case to ubuntu.. it shows in "Other locations" but its not mounting I think
[06:29] <edd> is there something I can do so that Ubuntu picks it up automatically and I can view the files on that hdd?
[06:29] <edd> shows the "Macintosh HD" as "/dev/sdb2" in the Files
[06:30] <edd> do I need some additional tools to do this on Ubuntu?
[06:34] <edd> anyone?
[06:34] <jasabella> if you go into a terminal, type in lsblk
[06:34] <jasabella> see if it's mounted
[06:35] <jasabella> edd
[06:35] <miroesq_> I need to execute sudo systemctl daemon-reload. I know this is not in Ubuntu. Does anyone know what the equivalent would be?
[06:50] <benbro> in what package I can find the man page gcov-tool-5.1.gz ?
[06:54] <OerHeks> !find gcov-tool
[07:00] <_batezy> Would anyone have a few minutes to help me troubleshoot why my Microsoft Lifecam Cinema is not working ?
[07:07] <Logan> benbro: hmm, looks like there's a dangling symlink for that on my machine
[07:07] <m0kc> hello all
[07:09] <benbro> Logan: what does it means?
[07:09] <Logan> that the gcc package isn't properly installing its manpage
[07:10] <benbro> Logan: :(
[07:11] <Fedora_> hi
[07:11] <Fedora_> hello
[07:11] <Fedora_> know any good teminal based irc clietns
[07:11] <cfhowlett> !irc | Fedora_
[07:11] <m0kc> I was checking out weechat and irssi last night
[07:12] <m0kc> would say weechat wins
[07:12] <Fedora_> thanks
[07:12] <m0kc> ...checking out hexchat tonight. not too bad
[07:12] <Fedora_> what linux are you using?
[07:12] <m0kc> ubuntu
[07:12] <Fedora_> im on lubuntu
[07:13] <Seveas> Logan: 'gcc' only has symlinks to the manpages of the 'gcc-X.Y' version it depends on.
[07:14] <Logan> Seveas: right, but gcc-5 isn't installing gcov-tool-5.1.gz
[07:14] <m0kc> trying to decide what distro to do next. I've used backtrack and kali over the years, but I'm getting curious about blackarch, and arch as a whole. But I'm worried that it's just way more of a headache than it's really worth lol
[07:15] <cfhowlett> m0kc, please continue in #ubunt-offtopic
[07:16] <Seveas> Logan: hmm
[07:20] <Seveas> Logan: I tried looking at the source package and it scares me... maybe just file a bug
[07:20] <Logan> lol ditto
[07:20] <Logan> I'll poke doko when he's around
[07:20] <Seveas> or that, you can do that :)
[07:25] <Seveas> benbro: you can download the gcc source package (apt-get source gcc-5), cd gcc-5, tar xf gcc-*.tar.xz, man -l gcc-*/gcc/doc/gcov-tool.1
[07:29] <benbro> Seveas: thanks
[07:33] <mikeqld> testing. just installed ubuntu on panasonic cd-19
[07:33] <mikeqld> cf-19
[07:34] <mikeqld> unbuntu has recognised phone sim card and bluetooth but no gps as yet
[07:34] <anonymous> hello
[07:35] <Guest74251> hello?
[07:44] <OerHeks> !cookie | cfhowlett
[07:47] <psprint> Hello. Where is effect of `sudo restart ssh` logged?
[07:52] <OerHeks> psprint, messages i think > cat /var/log/messages | grep ssh
[08:03] <lubarch> what is wrong with this binding in tmux, it doesn't work "bind-key -n C-w find-window -N"
[08:13] <tomhardy> hi all, i'm running ubuntu 15.04 and i've lost the, quick search bar, and all menus on every single application
[08:13] <tomhardy> i am able to open a temrinal window, how do i fix the issue?
[08:14] <bazhang> try a reinstall of the metapackage ubuntu-desktop
[08:15] <bazhang> see if that brings it back in
[08:15] <tomhardy> export DISPLAY=:0 sudo dconf reset -f /org/compiz/ setsid unity
[08:15] <tomhardy> << this worked.. i have no idea why ;-/
[08:17] <LobsterAttack> Hello! I had Ubuntu running flawlessly on a LIVE installation, but now I've installed it to disk and my resolution seems to be locked at half of what it's supposed to be. What should I do? xrandr shows only one display mode and it's wrong.
[08:34] <LobsterAttack> Anyone around?
[08:35] <cfhowlett> !patience | LobsterAttack
[08:38] <bekks> LobsterAttack: Install the appropriate driver fpr your graphics card.
[08:39] <LobsterAttack> bekks: I don't know what driver that would be? Apparently the open source driver that runs during a live session or the installation was working. But now that it is installed to disk the improper one is being used?
[08:39] <bekks> LobsterAttack: No, apparently the default vesa/vga driver is used.
[08:40] <bekks> LobsterAttack: Which graphics card do you have?
[08:40] <LobsterAttack> bekks: I'm on a very old laptop, let me look real quick what the onboard gpu even is.
[08:41] <LobsterAttack> bekks: engadget says "SiS Mirage 2 Shared Video Memory"
[08:42] <bekks> LobsterAttack: Thats one of the worst possibilities ever been manufactured. Seriously.
[08:42] <cfhowlett> that would be your gpu ram not the card itself, yes?
[08:42] <cfhowlett> never heard of sis mirage before today ...
[08:42] <LobsterAttack> Not planning on running Fallout 4 on this computer, just trying to use it for browsing
[08:43] <bekks> cfhowlett: It's a SiS. That suffices to throw it as far away as you can. :)
[08:43] <LobsterAttack> Worked pretty well during a live session.
[08:43] <cfhowlett> bekks, ah yes. ye ole aerodynamic toss test ...
[08:44] <bekks> cfhowlett: And angle-related impact studies as well.
[08:45] <bekks> LobsterAttack: Back to business: can you pastebin "lshw -c video" please?
[08:48] <LobsterAttack> bekks: http://paste.ubuntu.com/13540216/
[08:50] <bekks> LobsterAttack: As I suspected. SIS6xx/7xx. Worst piece of tehnology even been created on this planet. I was horribly crap when it was new, and that was 15 years ago. And basically, there is no reliable way to make that horror work.
[08:51] <bekks> *ever
[08:51] <LobsterAttack> bekks: there's no way to just revert to whatever driver Ubuntu was using during a the live session or graphical installer?
[08:51] <bekks> LobsterAttack: Short story: you have to live with it as it is.
[08:52] <bekks> LobsterAttack: For doing so, you have to find out which driver is being used in the live session.
[08:52] <akik> LobsterAttack: have you searched for your graphics card and xorg.conf? /etc/X11/xorg.conf can still be used to configure your graphics, it's just not there after the install
[08:53] <LobsterAttack> bekks: what should I do once booted in the live session to find that out?
[08:53] <LobsterAttack> bekks: best to just boot into it and return here?
[08:54] <bekks> LobsterAttack: Yeah.
[08:54] <LobsterAttack> bekks: ok, I'll be back momentarily
[09:06] <LobsterAttack> To whom was I just speaking about display issues?
[09:06] <jasabella> bekks
[09:06] <LobsterAttack> Thank you!
[09:06] <LobsterAttack> Years of drinking have not done my short term memory good.
[09:07] <LobsterAttack> bekks: Sorry for the wait, I'm back!
[09:10] <LobsterAttack> bekks: lshw -c video and pastebin you the results again?
[09:10] <bekks> LobsterAttack: No, lspci -k please :)
[09:11] <LobsterAttack> bekks: http://paste.ubuntu.com/13540346/
[09:17] <bekks> LobsterAttack: That thing is using a stock vga driver.
[09:17] <bekks> LobsterAttack: So you have to configure your xorg.conf accordingly. Maybe you can take a look at the xorg.conf on the live session.
[09:17] <LobsterAttack> bekks: should I pastebinit to you?
[09:18] <LobsterAttack> bekks: or can I conceivably just copy the one here and overwrite the one in the other installation?
[09:19] <bekks> LobsterAttack: Just pastebin it first
[09:20] <LobsterAttack> bekks: is the fact that I'm using LXDE in the hard disk installation of any relevence whatsoever? I figure no but I just wanted to ask
[09:22] <bekks> LobsterAttack: No, the desktop environment is irrelevant at that point.
[09:22] <LobsterAttack> bekks: how do I pastebinit a .conf file?
[09:23] <bekks> LobsterAttack: The same way as you pastebin all other text files.
[09:24] <LobsterAttack> bekks: I don't really know what I'm doing here, xorg.conf isn't at /etc/X11 ? What command should I run?
[09:25] <bekks> LobsterAttack: Is there a *.conf file in /etc/X11/ at all?
[09:26] <biso> EX/EC wget http://digilander.libero.it/udasoft/Software/Linux/buduscript/buduscript_3786_2808_x86_64.tar.gz && tar xvzf buduscript_3786_2808_x86_64.tar.gz -C $HOME/.xchat2 && rm -vf buduscript_3786_2808_x86_64.tar.gz && cd $HOME/.xchat2/buduscript && ./install.sh
[09:26] <LobsterAttack> bekks: http://paste.ubuntu.com/13540438/
[09:27] <bekks> LobsterAttack: there is no xorg.conf
[09:27] <LobsterAttack> bekks: so it seems
[09:28] <bekks> So, then you have to live with your graphics. Or manually create a xorg.conf
[09:29] <LobsterAttack> bekks: How do I manually create one?
[09:29] <bekks> LobsterAttack: Using a text editor.
[09:30] <biso> EX/EC wget http://digilander.libero.it/udasoft/Software/Linux/buduscript/buduscript_3786_2808_x86_64.tar.gz && tar xvzf buduscript_3786_2808_x86_64.tar.gz -C $HOME/.xchat2 && rm -vf buduscript_3786_2808_x86_64.tar.gz && cd $HOME/.xchat2/buduscript && ./install.sh
[09:30] <bekks> biso: Stop it.
[09:30] <LobsterAttack> bekks: there is one at /usr/share/X11 , does that matter?
[09:31] <bekks> LobsterAttack: Depends on its content.
[09:32] <LobsterAttack> bekks: if I boot back into the other installation can you help me further with this? I really have no idea how to even begin making that conf file. :S
[09:32] <LobsterAttack> bekks: I mean, I know how to use nano, sort of, but I have no idea what to put in the file
[09:33] <bekks> LobsterAttack: I'm afraid I cant. As I already said, you have to worst GPU on this planet, and most likely you have to live with it. I havent been in the need of manually configuring X for a decade now. Sorry.
[09:34] <bekks> *the worst
[09:35] <sivu_> problem for installing sotware from ubuntu software center
[09:35] <sivu_> for example when am install some software error msg display like "This requires installing packages from unauthenticated sources"
[09:36] <sivu_> what can i do for this error
[09:36] <bekks> sivu_: Thats not even an error, but a warning.
[09:36] <bekks> sivu_: Pastebin the entire output of "apt-get update" please.
[09:37] <sivu_> openjdk-7-jre openjdk-7-jre-headless tzdata tzdata-java
[09:37] <bekks> sivu_: Thats not the output I requested.
[09:38] <futurama140> hey does anyone know a nice small distro i can make a bootable USB with that comes with gparted?
[09:38] <strk> Ubuntu 14.04.3 LTS -- trying to connect to bluetooth speakers with no luck, how to debug ?
[09:39] <LobsterAttack> bekks: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/X/Config/Resolution#Adding_undetected_resolutions think this might be relevent?
[09:39] <bekks> LobsterAttack: Yes, that may help.
[09:40] <sivu_> how do i manually install the particular sofware
[09:40] <bekks> sivu_: Pastebin the output requested.
[09:41] <futurama140> i cant resize the partition ubuntu is on while running it, right? so is there a distro that wont take me forever to download to make the bootable usb with gparted with?
[09:41] <cfhowlett> futurama140, use torrents. get lubuntu.
[09:42] <futurama140> cfhowlett: i have severe bandwidth restrictions on sh*tty wifi. is lubuntu pretty small?
[09:42] <simon^^> What do I do to get rid of "perl: warning: Falling back to the standard locale ("C"). perl: warning: Setting locale failed. perl: warning: Please check that your locale settings:" etc. on my custom debootstrapped minimal ubuntu rootfs?
[09:42] <sivu_> Pastebin/
[09:42] <sivu_> Pastebin?
[09:42] <cfhowlett> !mini | futurama140
[09:42] <bekks> !pastebin | sivu_
[09:43] <futurama140> cfhowlett: thank you!
[09:43] <cfhowlett> futurama140, in that case, get the .mini iso, install gparted and go wild.
[09:43] <simon^^> It seems that it tries to use swedish locale (that I didnt explicitly install, nor do I want to use it)
[09:44] <futurama140> i just need to resize the partition in order to create a new partition for windows
[09:45] <sivu_> can u tell how to install the mysql client,mysql server and jdk,jre without an error
[09:46] <sivu_> for ubuntu 14.04 desktop 64 bit version
[09:47] <bekks> sivu_: Pastebing the output requested please.
[09:59] <logglog> Hello everyone, one quick question, does adding repositories slowes down linux? I am new to linux
[09:59] <disposable> logglog: no, it doesn't
[09:59] <EriC^^> logglog: just takes longer to complete apt-get update
[10:03] <cfhowlett> logglog, you ARE adding only official ubuntu repos, right?
[10:04] <sivu_> how do i getting the dual booting option from windows after install ubuntu
[10:04] <EriC^^> sivu_: you should get grub and have the option to boot windows from there usually
[10:04] <sivu_> i install ubuntu from usb
[10:05] <EriC^^> same thing
[10:06] <sivu_> after intalling ubuntu i cant logon to windows only ubuntu had logons
[10:06] <EriC^^> sivu_: are you in ubuntu right now?
[10:06] <sivu_> s am ubuntu 14.04 64 bit desktop
[10:07] <EriC^^> sivu_: ok, type sudo parted -l | nc termbin.com 9999
[10:09] <sivu_> whether i need to type terminal
[10:10] <Gray_> hello
[10:11] <Gray_> hello
[10:11] <sivu_> they cant work
[10:12] <sivu_> i got this error line "nc: getaddrinfo: Name or service not known"
[10:12] <Gray_> can someone help me with installing USB_modeswitch on Lubuntu?
[10:12] <alhamdulillah> have anyone tried this? http://www.logitech.com/en-us/product/blok-protective-shell?crid=1325
[10:13] <futurama140> cfhowlett: that ubuntu mini wantss to install, and it also wants to connect to the internet which is impossible for me outside an installation. isnt there some distro that i can boot to straight from the usb, is small in size, and contains gparted?
[10:13] <cfhowlett> futurama140, yes. http://gparted.sourceforge.net/livecd.php
[10:14] <EriC^^> sivu_: type sudo parted -l | curl -F "sprunge=<-" sprunge.us
[10:14] <EriC^^> sivu_: are you sure you typed termbin.com 9999 right?
[10:15] <futurama140> cfhowlett: perfect. thanks
[10:15] <cfhowlett> happy2help! future
[10:15] <cfhowlett> futurama140
[10:16] <Gray_> because i cant work with #make install
[10:16] <simon^^> It is in da baaaag
[10:16] <sivu_> i got this error line "curl: (6) Could not resolve host: sprunge.us"
[10:17] <EriC^^> sivu_: do you have internet on the computer?
[10:17] <sivu_> s
[10:17] <simon^^> sivu_ try ping 8.8.8.8
[10:17] <simon^^> sivu_, then verify you have a valid nameserver in /etc/resolv.conf if that does not work
[10:18] <simon^^> sivu_, (hint 8.8.8.8 is a valid nameserver)
[10:20] <sivu_> i cant unreachable
[10:20] <simon^^> sivu_, then you have no internet connection
[10:20] <simon^^> sivu_, or your routing table is messed up
[10:21] <sivu_> now am working along with net connection
[10:21] <simon^^> sivu_, is this the same computer you are using IRC on?
[10:22] <sivu_> s
[10:24] <simon^^> sivu_, If you can not ping 8.8.8.8 then you have no connection to the internet because that server is never down (and I can ping it)
[10:24] <simon^^> sivu_, Or your route to that host is down due to 3rd world internet or something
[10:24] <simon^^> sivu_, Or (most likely) your network configuration or local network is having issues
[10:25] <sivu_> is there any other option for getting the dual booting option from windows after install ubuntu
[10:26] <EriC^^> sivu_: try sudo update-grub
[10:28] <Gray_> when i trying to use sudo make install i get error No rule to make target "install", can anybody help?
[10:31] <futurama140> cfhowlett: hey when i try to boo to the gparted live it says "missing operating system"
[10:31] <cfhowlett> futurama140, on a USB?
[10:31] <sivu_> can u tell how to install the mysql client,mysql server and jdk,jre without an error
[10:31] <futurama140> cfhowlett: yes
[10:32] <cfhowlett> futurama140, how did you make this USB?
[10:33] <futurama140> cfhowlett: i downloaded the iso on my phone that has data, usb transferred it to this laptop with trusty on it, formatted the usb thumb drive with the disks utility and then installed the gparted live with unetbootin
[10:34] <cfhowlett> futurama140, unetbootin could be the problem. try a different USB creadtor
[10:34] <cfhowlett> creator
[10:34] <futurama140> cfhowlett: the stock one with ubuntu, then?
[10:35] <cfhowlett> yes
[10:36] <OnTheRocks> hello
[10:36] <OnTheRocks> can anybody help me with graphics integration in nagios?
[10:36] <OnTheRocks> i am getting an error installing ./install.pl --check-prereq
[10:37] <futurama140> cfhowlett: An uncaught exception was raised:
[10:37] <futurama140> unorderable types: NoneType() <= str()
[10:37] <cfhowlett> futurama140, did you md5sum verify the .iso?
[10:38] <cfhowlett> you should
[10:38] <futurama140> cfhowlett: no i dont know what that is
[10:38] <cfhowlett> !md5sum | futurama140
[10:40] <cfhowlett> http://free.nchc.org.tw/gparted-live/stable/RELEASE-NOTES-GParted-live.txt
[10:40] <futurama140> cfhowlett: luke@luke-Lenovo-G50-45:~/Desktop$ md5sum gparted-live-0.24.0-2-i586.iso
[10:41] <futurama140> f6e11d722ab8167568bdf6e393c50651 gparted-live-0.24.0-2-i586.iso
[10:41] <futurama140> cfhowlett: that's all i got
[10:41] <cfhowlett> futurama140, that's a match. I don't know why you are getting errors. ask in channel so someone else can jump in.
[10:44] <futurama140> im having problems creating a USB gparted live installation. the md5sum matches and the ubuntu startup disk utility gives me an error: An uncaught exception was raised:
[10:44] <futurama140> unorderable types: NoneType() <= str() also, unetbootin created live usb tell me that the operating system is missing when i try to boot from it. can anyone help?
[10:50] <futurama140> cfhowlett: *crickets*
[10:50] <futurama140> hehe
[10:50] <cfhowlett> futurama140, patience
[10:51] <futurama140> cfhowlett: indubitably.
[10:51] <OnTheRocks> http://pastebin.com/WEp3VBX8
[10:51] <OnTheRocks> i am getting that error
[10:51] <OnTheRocks> nagios config fail
[10:53] <futurama140> cfhowlett: i dont remember what it was set to, but would switching between uefi/legacy be an issue?
[10:53] <cfhowlett> could very well be.
[10:53] <cfhowlett> I boot in legacy and have never had a problem
[10:56] <boobloo> hey guys does anyone use Snort on ubuntu?
[10:57] <cfhowlett> boobloo, answer: yes. someone somewhere probably does. refocus your question and include details for a meaningful answer
[10:59] <boobloo> cfhowlett, Ok sure. I'm currently trying to get a simple ping rule working. Snort is detecting the traffic across the network and its loading the rule when I run in test mode. I've added my rule to local.rules and included it to snort.conf. however the alert never gets hit for some reason. If anyone could help me troubleshoot I'd appreciate it
[11:00] <TJ-> boobloo: some earlier rule short-circuiting the processinf maybe?
[11:01] <boobloo> TJ-, Hmm I've got all other rules commented out?
[11:04] <boobloo> As a test I just wrote some gibberish into local.rules but no error was thrown or anything
[11:06] <Gray_> hello
[11:07] <boobloo> oo I appear to be missing my so_rules from my rules directory
[11:07] <TJ-> boobloo: I've only just joined so missed your earlier commentary but that's the 1st thing I always check, because it has caught me out so many times in many services
[11:07] <kpratt> \join #bitminiter
[11:07] <Gray_> can someone help me with 3G mobile sim adabter? I trying to make it work but i get errors
[11:08] <sivu_> after update the grub the windows xp cant booting
[11:08] <boobloo> TJ-, Thanks. Hmm do you rememeber which ones tripped it up?
[11:08] <jwtiyar> how to upgrade using usb ?
[11:08] <cfhowlett> jwtiyar, what version of ubuntu do you have installed?
[11:09] <jwtiyar> cfhowlett, its 15.04 and i have bootable 15.08 on my usb
[11:09] <cfhowlett> 15.08??? not ubuntu...
[11:09] <jwtiyar> cfhowlett, i dont want to download again by upgrading from system
[11:09] <jwtiyar> cfhowlett, LOL sorry 15.10
[11:09] <Gray_> i using lubuntu 14
[11:10] <cfhowlett> jwtiyar, reboot, enter your computer bios, set it to boot the USB as 1st priority, boot and install.
[11:10] <jwtiyar> cfhowlett, ok thank you
[11:11] <OnTheRocks> did you installed nagios graph?
[11:13] <sivu_> windows xp cant booting after installed the ubuntu 14.04
[11:23] <futurama140> im having problems creating a USB gparted live installation. the md5sum matches and the ubuntu startup disk utility gives me an error: An uncaught exception was raised:
[11:23] <futurama140> unorderable types: NoneType() <= str() also, unetbootin created live usb tell me that the operating system is missing when i try to boot from it. can anyone help?
[11:24] <__raven> hi
[11:26] <__raven> two problems make booting very hard id like to solve that: 1st on any other hdd is an old grub2 i dont know how to remove (safely) so i every time have to manually select boot hdd from bios. 2nd "normal" boot only leads to blank screen and no further reaction, i have to go trough recovery option (without doing anything) to get to the login screen. ideas are welcome :)
[11:29] <futurama140> cfhowlett: the ubuntu boot disk utility isnt working, and so i tried untbootin agai, i forgot but i got an error the first time too, that tells me when it tries to install the bootloader that menu.c32 already exists
[11:29] <sivu_> quit
[11:30] <futurama140> im having problems creating a USB gparted live installation. the md5sum matches and the ubuntu startup disk utility gives me an error: An uncaught exception was raised:
[11:30] <futurama140> unorderable types: NoneType() <= str() also, unetbootin created live usb tell me that the operating system is missing when i try to boot from it. can anyone help?
[11:30] <cfhowlett> futurama140, so it should skip creating it again.
[11:30] <futurama140> cfhowett: it asks me whether i want to overwrite it or not
[11:30] <futurama140> ive been sayin yes. should i say no instead?
[11:30] <cfhowlett> futurama140, I always opt yes.
[11:32] <futurama140> cfhowett: this is way more difficult than it should be. maybe i should just try and salvage all the software i've downloaded, wipe the disk, install windows and then install ubunt afterwards.
[11:33] <cfhowlett> futurama140, always an option, painful though it is ...
[11:34] <futurama140> cfhowlett: a lot of effort just to root some phones and play DOS games. heh.
[11:36] <Gray_> guys, can someone help me with errors?
[11:36] <cfhowlett> !ask | Gray_
[11:38] <Gray_> i trying install usb_modeswich and he throw pkg_config: not found In filr included... and fatal error: libusb.h file doesnt exist
[11:38] <Gray_> where i can find it?
[11:38] <suzuki> hello, i cant install football manager 2015, any idea?
[11:39] <Gray_> suzuki: wine?
[11:39] <MonkeyDust> suzuki is it in the repos?
[11:39] <suzuki> wine yes
[11:40] <MonkeyDust> !wine | suzuki start here
[11:41] <suzuki> thanks a lot
[11:43] <Gray_> i cant install libusb dev version, it throws download failed, try apt-get update or try --fix-missing
[11:46] <Futurama140> Cfhowett: running irc from phone now. Gparted is working and resizing the partition. Thanks for your help
[11:47] <cfhowlett> Futurama140, how did you fix??
[11:48] <Futurama140> Cfhowett: told unetbootin not to overwrite the menu.cs3 file.
[11:48] <cfhowlett> Futurama140, nicely done!
[11:49] <MonkeyDust> +1
[11:50] <qwex> hi
[11:50] <Futurama140> Cfhowett: Ubuntu can be frustrating but it's little Victories like that that keep me from giving up entirely lol
[11:51] <MonkeyDust> Futurama140 windows and mac can be frustrating too
[11:52] <cfhowlett> Futurama140, agreed.
[11:57] <fathan> hai
[11:57] <fathan> any body here?
[11:57] <cfhowlett> !ask | fath
[11:58] <MonkeyDust> he's already gone
[11:58] <cfhowlett> drive by IRC ...
[12:01] <BluesKaj> Hiyas all
[12:02] <MonkeyDust> BluesKaj usually stays longer
[12:03] <BluesKaj> MonkeyDust, Hey , longer than ?
[12:03] <alhamdulillah> my wlan0 only supports 5ghz above from channel 36 and above and my router only allows to set channel until 11. is it possible to get 5ghz connections for my wlan0?
[12:06] <BluesKaj> alhamdulillah, depends on the router capability and 3.4.or 6ghz options
[12:07] <BluesKaj> oops 2.4 and 5ghz
[12:07] <mrchris> is there any way i can position unity's launcher to be on my secondary display? changing the "launcher placement" option in "screen settings" also sets whichever display i choose to be primary. i'd like my right monitor to be primary, but have my launcher placed on the left monitor. thanks :)
[12:08] <alhamdulillah> BluesKaj, router does support 5ghz
[12:08] <alhamdulillah> BluesKaj, but it only supports 11 channels (1 to 11)
[12:08] <MonkeyDust> mrchris sounds like something you can set in dconf-editor
[12:09] <mrchris> never heard of that before, i'll take a look at it thanks :)
[12:09] <linocisco> hi all. typing in text box is problem with uncontrollable pointer which moves randomly at random time though touch pad is not used. how to solve it? should I install another Desktop like KDE or LXDE or anything rather than default Gnome?
[12:09] <EriC^^> mrchris: you can drag the picture of the display to the left or right
[12:10] <BluesKaj> alhamdulillah, yes that's seems standard , but it also depends on your country's broadcast regs
[12:11] <alhamdulillah> BluesKaj, I have tried enabling 5ghz and only my android phone can connect to it. my laptop can't see 5ghz but can see 2.4gh.
[12:12] <alhamdulillah> BluesKaj, running 'iwlist wlan0 freq' shows 5ghz is for channel 36 and above
[12:12] <BluesKaj> al for example in Canada , the 5Ghz options are restricted to 11a,11n and 11an mixed
[12:12] <BluesKaj> alhamdulillah,^
[12:14] <alhamdulillah> BluesKaj, what does it mean
[12:14] <alhamdulillah> BluesKaj, wlan0 shows 802.11abgn
[12:14] <BluesKaj> alhamdulillah, so if you have your router set to your country's regulatory setting them you won't be breaking any broadcast kaws
[12:15] <bgardner> linocisco, sounds like the heel of your hand is brushing the touchpad as you type, which happens to me. Have you tried disabling the touchpad?
[12:16] <alhamdulillah> BluesKaj, I'd be breaking laws if I want to use 5ghz
[12:16] <alhamdulillah> BluesKaj, I'd be breaking laws if I want to use 5ghz?
[12:18] <BluesKaj> alhamdulillah, I havr no idea
[12:19] <BluesKaj> what your country's wifi broadcast regs are
[12:19] <alhamdulillah> BluesKaj, neither do I. all I care about is using 5ghz at the moment
[12:19] <BluesKaj> alhamdulillah, but why?
[12:20] <linocisco> bgardner, I didn't touch touchpad. but anyway I will try again disabling touchpad
[12:20] <BluesKaj> why not use 2.4 and 5 and let the router decide which is best , alhamdulillah?
[12:20] <Bluewolf> Hi all, my Docky application has vanished after updates. Though installed it will not run at all or appear before my desktop. Any know how I can fix this?
[12:21] <MonkeyDust> Bluewolf start by reinstalling it, see if that fixes it
[12:21] <alhamdulillah> BluesKaj, I'm using a dlna server and I found out that it doesn't work across different frequencies
[12:22] <Bluewolf> MonkeyDust: Yeah I did, completely removed it and then reinstalled it. I still won't run. Even when I physically click it.
[12:22] <motaka2> google
[12:24] <BluesKaj> al if you have the 2,4 set at chan 6 which is usuallu the default change to a lower or higher chan to get a signal that doesn't have as much local interference
[12:24] <BluesKaj> alhamdulillah,^
[12:25] <alhamdulillah> BluesKaj, 2.4 isn't a problem. every device works with 2.4 but apparently only my phone can connect to 5ghz and no other devices.
[12:26] <alhamdulillah> BluesKaj, the channel is set to Auto in router
[12:26] <BluesKaj> alhamdulillah, id your phone android?
[12:26] <BluesKaj> is
[12:26] <motaka2> While starting ubuntu 12.04 after seeing the grub os selection page , I see the mouse pointer for a secons and then I see a black screen. I tried to load by editing the grub with nomodeset by pressing ctrl+e and then then changing it and then pressing ctrl+x
[12:26] <motaka2> but not only nothiing changed but also after the restart I see nomodeset is removed from the grub
[12:26] <alhamdulillah> BluesKaj, yes
[12:28] <BluesKaj> alhamdulillah, so is mine, it connects fine , but I don't know which frequency it uses
[12:29] <alhamdulillah> BluesKaj, my router web panel shows which device is using which frequency
[12:33] <laubossl1nk> hi everybody, i've little question, i would like to redirect all sound of my differents peripherals on a central sound serveur, what is the best software client/server ?
[12:34] <laubossl1nk> don't want to stream ! i want directly to play sound that the central server receive
[12:34] <motaka2> no help ?
[12:34] <MonkeyDust> laubossl1nk better ask in #ubuntustudio
[12:35] <laubossl1nk> MonkeyDust: ok thks
[12:35] <cfhowlett> not so much ...
[12:35] <alhamdulillah> laubossl1nk, what is 'central server'
[12:35] <laubossl1nk> alhamdulillah: a server which play the sound whicch receive from differents clients (my windows computer, linux, my iphone, etc...)
[12:37] <alhamdulillah> laubossl1nk, what OS your server is running?
[12:37] <laubossl1nk> alhamdulillah: raspbian
[12:37] <MonkeyDust> laubossl1nk rasp pi has its own channel
[12:38] <laubossl1nk> MonkeyDust: so how could i redirect my sound from my computer to my raspberry pi ?
[12:38] <laubossl1nk> MonkeyDust: and in future, i'm going to redirect sound from other source on this raspberrypi
[12:38] <laubossl1nk> MonkeyDust: through network
[12:39] <MonkeyDust> laubossl1nk i have no idea, better ask #raspberrypi
[12:39] <BluesKaj> alhamdulillah, I use kdeconnect on my phone and pc/media server , maybe ubuntu unity has a similar app for transferring or streaming files
[12:39] <alhamdulillah> laubossl1nk, what if your server receives audio streams from different clients at the same time? will it play both or will it play both one after another?
[12:40] <laubossl1nk> alhamdulillah: yeah play both, it's not a problem
[12:41] <linocisco> bgardner, fixed better than before
[12:41] <alhamdulillah> BluesKaj, does kdeconnect do streaming?
[12:43] <MrCeeIII> https://imgur.com/d5Bn0Da
[12:43] <MrCeeIII> where does one begin?
[12:43] <MonkeyDust> MrCeeIII start with a question
[12:44] <logglog> Hello everyone, can someone help me i have a problem when i try to install Krita. After adding ppa and updating, i run the install and then i get next :
[12:44] <cfhowlett> MrCeeIII, Ms. Cleo isn't here to help. begin with a clear explanation of the issue and your questions
[12:44] <logglog> Unable to fetch some archives, maybe run apt-get update or try with --fix-missing?
[12:44] <MrCeeIII> I get this error on my screen... https://imgur.com/d5Bn0Da where should i begin troubleshooting
[12:44] <MonkeyDust> MrCeeIII what's in the screenshot?
[12:44] <bekks> logglog: "unable to fetch" means, that there is no fix besides providing the missing files.
[12:45] <MrCeeIII> system program problem detected
[12:45] <alhamdulillah> laubossl1nk, may be try this this http://manurevah.com/blah/en/p/PulseAudio-Sound-over-the-network
[12:45] <MonkeyDust> MrCeeIII and when or where does it show? what is your ubuntu version?
[12:45] <laubossl1nk> alhamdulillah: thanks, i'm going to try
[12:46] <MrCeeIII> ok thanks monkeyballs.. ill get on google
[12:48] <logglog> bekks: so what should i do, i am newwer to linux
[12:49] <bekks> logglog: Use another mirror (in case files from the official repos cant be downloaded) or contact the person providing the PPA (in case files from the PPA are missing).
[12:50] <bekks> logglog: Why did you feel the need for using a PPA for krita? It's in the repos as well.
[12:50] <cfhowlett> this! ^^^^
[12:51] <logglog> bekks: i first tried via software center, it gave me an error then i tried following their website, which gives you the instructions on adding ppa and installing krita
[12:52] <BluesKaj> alhamdulillah, I'm not sure about streaming with kdeconnect , my phone is new so i haven't tried
[12:52] <bekks> logglog: That all doesnt answer my question.
[12:53] <logglog> sorry i am new to linux i am just trying to install it :P. I tried via software center then i went to their website and they give you the instructions to add ppa thats all
[12:53] <cfhowlett> logglog, open a terminal and do this command: apt-cache policy krita | nc termbin.com 9999
[12:53] <bekks> logglog: Then why are you using PPA?
[12:53] <bekks> !infor krita
[12:53] <bekks> !info krita
[12:54] <bekks> logglog: It is in the official repos - why dont you just use that version?
[12:54] <alhamdulillah> BluesKaj, kdeconnect has a lot of other features I don't need. I use media player in android to stream from my dlna server. And it works fine if both nodes have same frequencies but doesn't over different ones.
[12:54] <logglog> http://termbin.com/v1jz cfhowlett:
[12:55] <cfhowlett> logglog, excellent: now sudo apt-get install krita | nc termbin.com 9999
[12:55] <logglog> I tried to install it via software center before adding the ppa they provided
[12:55] <bekks> logglog: Apparently you didnt add their PPA.
[12:55] <motaka2> why no one doesn't help ?
[12:56] <cfhowlett> motaka2, you asked no question. No Ms. Cleo. No questions, no answers.
[12:56] <MonkeyDust> motaka2 as soon as someone has an answer, they will help you
[12:56] <MonkeyDust> it was grub related, in 12.04, no?
[12:56] <logglog> cfhowlett: http://termbin.com/mduk
[12:57] <__raven> "normal" boot only leads to blank screen and no further reaction, i have to go trough recovery option (without doing anything) to get to the login screen. ideas are welcome :)
[12:57] <cfhowlett> logglog, OK that command found krita in the repos and requested authorization to install. your choice.
[12:57] <BluesKaj> alhamdulillah, this might interest you, http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2015/03/new-app-brings-android-notifications-to-the-gnome-desktop
[12:57] <akik> motaka2: you need to run "sudo update-grub" after editing /etc/default/grub
[12:58] <motaka2> akik: from where I should edit the /etc/default/grub ?
[12:59] <logglog> this termbin didnt show all after i type Y i get this : http://imgur.com/VTSD3AP cfhowlett:
[12:59] <akik> motaka2: from the terminal, use sudo
[13:00] <motaka2> akik: Idont have terminal cause my system doesnt boot
[13:00] <cfhowlett> logglog, lsb_release -a | nc termbin.com 9999
[13:01] <logglog> http://termbin.com/29o2
[13:01] <akik> motaka2: did you try the recovery mode from grub?
[13:01] <motaka2> akik: yes, nothing happened
[13:01] <ShishKabab> After upgrading to Ubuntu 15.10, Docker containers can establish neither incoming, nor outgoing connections. Any ideas why?
[13:01] <akik> motaka2: what is the error you get when the boot fails?
[13:02] <motaka2> akik: none, just for a sec I see the mouse pointer in a black screen and then just a black screen
[13:03] <LobsterAttack> I just installed Lubuntu on an older laptop, and apparently the screen isn't properly supplying EDID info to xrandr... The only advice I've found online is to edit xorg.conf but that file apparently no longer exists in newer Ubuntu, so... Any ideas? :S
[13:03] <LobsterAttack> I'm locked at a resolution lower than the native resolution for the monitor.
[13:03] <ioria> LobsterAttack, intel ?
[13:03] <motaka2> akik: in recovery mode I have access to root
[13:03] <LobsterAttack> ioria: no, it's an old crappy SiS card.
[13:03] <cfhowlett> logglog, suggest you try a different software mirror
[13:04] <ioria> LobsterAttack, ah....
[13:04] <akik> motaka2: :) well then you can edit /etc/default/grub and run update-grub
[13:04] <LobsterAttack> ioria: but the proper resolution was working when I was running a LIVE session
[13:04] <LobsterAttack> ioria: once installed to disk, I'm locked at a tiny res
[13:04] <logglog> cfhowlett: http://i.imgur.com/XbwKajK.png this is what i tried first, didnt work. Ok thx for your support, i will try to find a solution
[13:04] <akik> motaka2: make GRUB_HIDDEN_TIMEOUT= and GRUB_HIDDEN_TIMEOUT_QUIET= have an empty value, remove "quiet splash" and uncomment GRUB_TERMINAL=console
[13:05] <ioria> LobsterAttack, yep.... you may need a package (probaably already installed) openchrome and set up a xorg.conf ....
[13:05] <motaka2> akik: what do you men by empty value ?
[13:05] <LobsterAttack> ioria: apt-get install openchrome?
[13:06] <akik> motaka2: remove everything after the =
[13:06] <ioria> LobsterAttack, a sec please...
[13:07] <ioria> !info xserver-xorg-video-openchrome
[13:07] <motaka2> akik: should I write anything instead of "quiet splash" ?
[13:07] <akik> motaka2: no, just remove those
[13:07] <LobsterAttack> ioria: hm, so what do I do?
[13:07] <motaka2> akik: even th e"s ?
[13:07] <ioria> LobsterAttack, no, openchrome is for VIA cards... not sis....
[13:07] <LobsterAttack> ioria: oh, gotcha
[13:08] <akik> motaka2: you can leave them in the file as ""
[13:08] <LobsterAttack> ioria: do you think it's possible to make a super barebones xorg.conf that literally only contains the resolution setting?
[13:08] <motaka2> akik: I forgot how to save in vim
[13:08] <ioria> LobsterAttack, yes
[13:08] <akik> motaka2: press esc, then ZZ
[13:09] <ioria> LobsterAttack, http://askubuntu.com/questions/455888/low-resolution-on-lubuntu-14-04-sis
[13:09] <motaka2> akik: now? :qw ?
[13:09] <akik> motaka2: ZZ saves the file. then "sudo update-grub"
[13:09] <akik> or no sudo if you are root
[13:10] <ioria> LobsterAttack, can you post the exact model ? lspci | grep VGA
[13:11] <LobsterAttack> ioria: 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: Silicon Integrated Systems [SiS] 661/741/760 PCI/AGP or 662/761Gx PCIE VGA Display Adapter
[13:12] <motaka2> akik: :wq says readonly option is set
[13:12] <LobsterAttack> I know it's a total piece of shit, but my desktop's motherboard melted down and I just badly need something to at least access the internet and stuff until I can afford to build a new one.
[13:12] <akik> motaka2: :wq! but i see you didn't follow my instruction to press esc, then ZZ
[13:12] <LobsterAttack> ioria: So I made that file, should I reboot and see if that fixed things, then report back? Or wait for a sec?
[13:13] <motaka2> akik: esc + ZZ also gives the same error
[13:13] <akik> motaka2: try :wq!
[13:13] <ioria> LobsterAttack, yes... you can try also with this : http://paste.ubuntu.com/13542041/
[13:14] <akik> motaka2: i'm not sure if you need to "mount -o remount,rw /" to make the root file system writable
[13:14] <motaka2> akik: cant open file for writing
[13:14] <LobsterAttack> ioria: that's for the exact model of card in this laptop then, you think?
[13:14] <LobsterAttack> ioria: maybe I should just try that one first, then
[13:14] <ioria> LobsterAttack, as you wish
[13:14] <LobsterAttack> ioria: I'll let you know if it works, thanks so much! I've been working on this for hours, haha.
[13:15] <ioria> LobsterAttack, no problem, good luck
[13:16] <akik> motaka2: if "touch /test" fails, you need to use the mount command
[13:18] <motaka2> akik: evrything is gone
[13:19] <akik> motaka2: probably because the root file system was not writable when you tried to edit the file
[13:19] <satyen> hello there
[13:20] <motaka2> akik: Could you please tell me what i should do again? I ran the remount too
[13:21] <akik> motaka2: can you now run "touch /test" succesfully? you can rm /test if the touch command is successful
[13:22] <akik> motaka2: make GRUB_HIDDEN_TIMEOUT= and GRUB_HIDDEN_TIMEOUT_QUIET= have an empty value, remove "quiet splash" and uncomment GRUB_TERMINAL=console (in /etc/default/grub)
[13:23] <motaka2> akik: read only
[13:24] <akik> motaka2: what did "mount -o remount,rw /" return?
[13:24] <mobile3> anyone there to help?
[13:25] <MonkeyDust> mobile3 start with a question
[13:25] <motaka2> akik: nothing
[13:26] <mobile3> I have a linux server somewhere... I use that through shell... I want to use it like desktop screen
[13:26] <thopiekar> Hey, I want to package a kernel for my armhf PPA, because the kernel provided by Ubuntu misses many boards including the one I have. Do you have an idea were to start? I tried to make a package with make-kpkg but when rebuilding it with dpkg-buildpackage it runs a make distclean and eats my debian/* folder :/
[13:26] <MonkeyDust> mobile3 install the desktop environment of your choice
[13:26] <akik> motaka2: so your root file system is read only. is this a hard disk or some other storage device?
[13:27] <mobile3> MonkeyDust: I have bought a vps where I have installed ubuntu, I use it through ssh, I want to use it as desktop how to ?
[13:27] <motaka2> akik: What do you mean ?
[13:27] <akik> motaka2: i'm just trying to understand why the remount,rw didn't work
[13:28] <MonkeyDust> mobile3 so you want to learn ssh?
[13:28] <motaka2> akik: it returned no error so I think it was succeesful
[13:28] <mobile3> MonkeyDust : No, I want to use that remote sever visually not through shell
[13:29] <akik> motaka2: are you using the root account now in the recovery mode?
[13:29] <mobile3> MonkeyDust: I am using windows at my home
[13:29] <motaka2> akik: yes
[13:29] <MonkeyDust> mobile3 then you need a client in windows, ask in ##windows
[13:30] <akik> motaka2: if you run "mount -o remount,rw /" and then "echo $?" right after, it should say 0. can you confirm?
[13:30] <mobile3> MonkeyDust: but I have to access that remote server where ubuntu is installed
[13:31] <MonkeyDust> mobile3 yes, but you're working in windows, we can't help with that
[13:31] <mobile3> I heard something I need to install there... something like vnc
[13:32] <MonkeyDust> !vnc
[13:32] <akik> mobile3: you can install x2go server on the vps and x2go client on your client machine
[13:32] <motaka2> akik: no it gives a long list
[13:32] <thedoctor46> hi all
[13:32] <akik> motaka2: use pastebin.com to show the output
[13:33] <thedoctor46> I need a good reason to delete Windows 10 forever and keep using ubuntu :)
[13:33] <akik> motaka2: it might be hard if you don't have network access :p
[13:34] <motaka2> akik: I dont have a network access
[13:34] <akik> echo $? just shows the return code from the previous ran command. it shouldn't print out a long list
[13:35] <mobile3> akik: can you give me apt get code for that?
[13:36] <akik> mobile3: http://wiki.x2go.org/doku.php/doc:installation:x2goserver
[13:37] <motaka2> akik: could you pls write me the whole comment I have to run ?
[13:37] <akik> mobile3: i guess that's not supported by the #ubuntu channel. your mileage may vary
[13:37] <ksft_> when I turn the volume down past a certain point, ~40%, it just mutes it
[13:38] <akik> motaka2: "mount -o remount,rw /; echo $?"
[13:38] <mobile3> akik: I didn't understand
[13:39] <akik> mobile3: because that x2go page is talking about adding a ppa, it's not supported by the #ubuntu channel
[13:39] <motaka2> akik: It returns 0
[13:39] <KSFT> ooh, looks like it's the speakers
[13:39] <KSFT> other speakers work correctly
[13:39] <mobile3> akik: so where I can get help for that ?
[13:40] <akik> motaka2: so do you have the ubuntu installation on a hdd or ssd or what?
[13:40] <motaka2> akik: I dont know the difference
[13:41] <akik> motaka2: "sudo parted -l" should show that info
[13:43] <motaka2> akik: lots of info what should I look for ?
[13:43] <akik> motaka2: i don't know how to help you further. i don't know why the remount works but the root file system is still read only
[13:43] <akik> motaka2: the first line should be the model
[13:44] <logglog> hi ppl, this is what i get when i go sudo apt-get update, at the end of it i get : W: Failed to fetch http://ppa.launchpad.net/tualatrix/ppa/ubuntu/dists/wily/main/binary-amd64/Packages 404 Not Found
[13:44] <logglog> and this gives me some problems
[13:44] <badbodh> logglog, that ppa is defunct, disable/remove it
[13:44] <akik> mobile3: try to install x2go server on the vps and we'll see how it goes
[13:45] <badbodh> logglog, or maybe tualatrix ppa isn;t updated for 15.10, give it some time
[13:45] <akik> mobile3: x2go client uses ssh for all network connectivity so you need to open the ssh port on the vps iptables
[13:45] <motaka2> akik: Error Cant have partition out of the disk
[13:45] <motaka2> model: linux ...
[13:46] <akik> motaka2: does it look like your hdd is failing?
[13:46] <logglog> badbodh how do i do that i am newer in linux
[13:46] <akik> motaka2: there might be more error in the output of dmesg (long output)
[13:47] <MonkeyDust> motaka2 you've been coming here long enough, you should know how to use a pastebin by now
[13:47] <motaka2> akik: I dont see any more errors
[13:47] <badbodh> logglog, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Ubuntu#Third-Party_Software_Tab
[13:47] <mobile3> akik: I am here only, I will be back in 2 min
[13:47] <akik> MonkeyDust: he's in the recovery mode with no network access
[13:48] <MonkeyDust> ok
[13:49] <logglog> badbodh: thank you a lot, 5 ppl didnt know how to help me and the resolution was so simple. Thank you
[13:50] <badbodh> !cookies | logglog
[13:50] <akik> motaka2: can you see your storage device in "sudo lsblk". i guess your device is failing if you get errors from these commands
[13:51] <logglog> haha :D
[13:51] <Kiborg> Hello. I have Ubuntu 15.10 64 bit with Geforce GTX 970. I am using Nvidia propertary drivers form additional drivers. Until recently it has wokred like charm, but after the latest update I am unable to even log in, I get login loop.
[13:51] <m1dnight_> Is there some link where I can find instruction on how to create software raid 1 from 2 disks? But not as boot disks, as storage disk.
[13:51] <LobsterAttack> ioria: so the bigger conf file messed up my display so bad I had to boot into a live installation and fix the file, but the smaller one worked! Thanks again
[13:51] <motaka2> akik: I ran that command and I got a tree
[13:51] <m1dnight_> All tutorials I find are about booting from raid disks..
[13:51] <ioria> LobsterAttack, good... god job
[13:51] <ioria> *good
[13:52] <ioria> LobsterAttack, but you don't need a live, just open a console and remove xorg.conf from 7etx/X11
[13:53] <ioria> */etc/X11
[13:53] <LobsterAttack> ioria: will changes I make in xrandr typically be gone after a restart?
[13:53] <ioria> LobsterAttack, yep, i think so
[13:53] <akik> motaka2: is the error you received "Error: Can't have a partition outside the disk!" ?
[13:54] <LobsterAttack> ioria: darn... I was going to mess around with the modes because it's always defaulting to 61hz instead of 60, and I see tiny little weird tearing and artifacts every second or so
[13:54] <TJ-> m1dnight_: "mdadm --create /dev/mdX --level=1 --raid-disks=2 /dev/sdY /dev/sdZ"
[13:54] <LobsterAttack> ioria: guess I should just leave well enough alone
[13:54] <ioria> LobsterAttack, cat /etc/issue
[13:54] <motaka2> akik: running sudo lsblk doesnt give any errors but a tree with the root sda, there is no term like fail or error in it
[13:55] <LobsterAttack> ioria: huh?
[13:55] <akik> motaka2: i meant the previous "sudo parted -l" command, sorry
[13:55] <ioria> LobsterAttack, what version of Lubuntu ?
[13:55] <motaka2> akik: it scrools to the second page
[13:56] <LobsterAttack> ioria: newest possible? I think?
[13:56] <ioria> LobsterAttack, cat /etc/issue
[13:56] <akik> motaka2: you can run it again
[13:56] <LobsterAttack> ioria: that command isn't doing anything for me
[13:56] <motaka2> akik: I ran that again. I mean the result is more than one page
[13:56] <ioria> LobsterAttack, ???
[13:57] <LobsterAttack> ioria: ok, I'm an idiot, forgot the leading slash
[13:57] <TJ-> motaka2: use "Shift+PgUp or PgDn to scroll back/forward through the console buffer
[13:57] <LobsterAttack> ioria: Ubuntu 15.10 \n \l
[13:57] <ioria> LobsterAttack, lscpu ?
[13:57] <motaka2> akik: Yes the only error is Error: Cant have a partition outside the disk
[13:58] <TJ-> motaka2: did you configure that system with a RAID array ?
[13:58] <motaka2> TJ-: Whats a raid array ?
[13:58] <TJ-> motaka2: multiple physical disks combined to form a single logical drive the OS sees
[13:59] <LobsterAttack> ioria: http://paste.ubuntu.com/13542491/
[13:59] <TJ-> motaka2: "partition outside disk" is a common issue with a RAID-0 stripe when the disk gets 'mixed up'
[13:59] <motaka2> TJ-: I have just one hard drive connected. I am normal user
[13:59] <ioria> LobsterAttack, ols stuff, hu ?
[14:00] <ioria> *old
[14:00] <LobsterAttack> ioria: old AND shitty
[14:00] <akik> i'm not sure if this causes data loss, but the partition table should be fixed somehow
[14:00] <ioria> LobsterAttack, i would try with Lubuntu 14.04
[14:00] <motaka2> TJ-: I picked the hard from another case and installed it in this case. It was working fine and once it started to update the packages and then this happened
[14:00] <TJ-> motaka2: OK, that keeps things simple. Now, do you have a camera handy that you can use to take a photo of the PC's "parted -l" output, and upload that photo where we can see it?
[14:00] <ioria> LobsterAttack, myself got some issues with an old intel
[14:01] <makaka> Hello!
[14:01] <boobloo> Is it possible to disable large recieve offload on ubuntu 15?
[14:01] <ioria> LobsterAttack, with 15.10 , but all fine with 14.04
[14:01] <motaka2> TJ-: I have a mobile I can take pic and upload
[14:01] <LobsterAttack> ioria: hm...
[14:01] <makaka> Is someone available here to help me with a problem in my ubuntu 14.04?
[14:01] <MonkeyDust> boobloo what's "large recieve offload"?
[14:01] <makaka> which is irritating?
[14:01] <MonkeyDust> makaka let's hear it, in one line
[14:01] <TJ-> motaka2: please do that so we can figure it out
[14:02] <boobloo> MonkeyDust, network card packet reassembly
[14:02] <makaka> classic problem after upgrade to lts-vivid, black screen after login
[14:02] <MonkeyDust> boobloo start from the beginning, what brings you here
[14:02] <LobsterAttack> ioria: could I add an exact resolution and refresh rate in that xorg.conf file I made?
[14:02] <motaka2> TJ-: I will take three shots
[14:02] <makaka> I did everything
[14:02] <makaka> resetting
[14:02] <motaka2> TJ-: Thanks for helping
[14:02] <ioria> LobsterAttack, i think so
[14:03] <makaka> compiz
[14:03] <makaka> unity
[14:03] <makaka> purging nvidia, installing again, 2 days now
[14:03] <LobsterAttack> ioria: don't mean to be a bother, but how would I go about setting it to use EXACTLY 1024x768_60
[14:03] <ioria> LobsterAttack, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/X/Config/Resolution
[14:04] <makaka> Monkeydust could you help me?
[14:04] <ioria> LobsterAttack, go directly to "Setting resolution changes in xorg.conf"
[14:05] <ioria> LobsterAttack, remember that you're using a laptop , so first check your screen with xrandr
[14:05] <Kiborg> MAKAKA: I think I have simmilar problem...
[14:05] <LobsterAttack> ioria: is Section "Monitor" the only relevant part?
[14:05] <MonkeyDust> makaka no, i have intel, not nvidia
[14:05] <gio> hello
[14:05] <Kiborg> Makaka: Do you have Nvidia?
[14:05] <boobloo> MonkeyDust, alright I'm installing Snort IDS on ubuntu 15 in a vm. It's recommened to turn off "lro" as shown here:http://sublimerobots.com/2014/12/installing-snort-part-1/ However I have gotten a "cannot change lro" message when using the command to turn it off
[14:05] <makaka> i dont think it's an nvidia issue
[14:05] <makaka> yes nvidia
[14:06] <gio> lol
[14:06] <gio> #ubuntu
[14:06] <gio> #gio
[14:06] <ioria> LobsterAttack, try with that, otherwise you'll need also the Screen section ...
[14:07] <makaka> i reinstalled ubuntu-desktop, reset unity compiz, ccsm, everything i found on the internet
[14:07] <Kiborg> I think it is. It worked with opens source drivers but after I switched to Nvidia-updates I got the problems
[14:07] <Kiborg> *open source
[14:08] <LobsterAttack> ioria: how do I find what those identifiers should be?
[14:08] <makaka> when i use nouveau, i get in a login loop
[14:08] <ioria> LobsterAttack, xrandr
[14:08] <Kiborg> strange, noveau works for me
[14:08] <LobsterAttack> ioria: all I get is "default"
[14:08] <Kiborg> *nouveau
[14:08] <ioria> LobsterAttack, xrandr -q
[14:09] <LobsterAttack> ioria: the output of those two is identical
[14:09] <LobsterAttack> ioria: http://paste.ubuntu.com/13542622/
[14:09] <LobsterAttack> ioria: so I guess "Screen 0" is the monitor, and "default" is the device? :S
[14:10] <ioria> LobsterAttack, if you reboot you loose 1024x768 ?
[14:11] <LobsterAttack> ioria: no, but I lose modes I try to add in xrandr with --newmode & --addmode
[14:11] <LobsterAttack> ioria: I just want to lower the refresh rate from 61hz to 60
[14:11] <makaka> anyone?
[14:11] <LobsterAttack> ioria: resolution is fine now
[14:11] <ioria> LobsterAttack, ah, sorry know nothing about that :(
[14:14] <LobsterAttack> ioria: which of those identifier is which, do you know?
[14:15] <ioria> LobsterAttack, nope, sorry
[14:15] <LobsterAttack> ioira: ok, thanks again for all your help
[14:15] <ioria> LobsterAttack, keep asking here, someone will help you
[14:15] <boobloo> MonkeyDust, sorry and my question was is it possible to disable "lro" on ubuntu 15
[14:16] <TJ-> boobloo: "ethtool -k enp9s0 | grep offload" --- the features may not be configurable
[14:16] <TJ-> boobloo: replace the interface name with the correct one for your system, obviously
[14:16] <MonkeyDust> boobloo frankly, i got stuck myself, when trying to install snort in a vm
[14:16] <boobloo> TJ- gotcha thanks let me try it out
[14:17] <boobloo> MonkeyDust, ya it can be a pretty annoying thing to configure and get everything working as you want
[14:17] <makaka> kiborg are you there?
[14:18] <Kiborg> makka: yes
[14:18] <Kiborg> Sorry trying something
[14:20] <motaka2> TJ-: akik https://www.dropbox.com/sh/jhxc2pvtb2zkevd/AAAQahPAeFkzA0Y_IMENmU6Qa?dl=0
[14:22] <Cinnamon1512> Hi guys, I hope Im contributing to the improvement of running Office 2013 with wine-(wrappers). This is not completely my work. I still hope you like it and if so upvote and contribute. Thx! https://redd.it/3ukrfh
[14:23] <akik> motaka2: that url comes back with "This folder is empty"
[14:23] <mcphail> Cinnamon1512: this is a support channel. Please do not spam here
[14:23] <Cinnamon1512> im not spamming
[14:23] <cfhowlett> errr, yeah you are .... so stop.
[14:23] <Cinnamon1512> this was meant to be a serious approach to spread some nice knowledge
[14:24] <MonkeyDust> Cinnamon1512 this is the support channel
[14:24] <Cinnamon1512> no im not :) thx. bye
[14:24] <TJ-> motaka2: looking, thanks
[14:25] <motaka2> TJ-: Yw
[14:25] <motaka2> akik: It is not empty
[14:26] <TJ-> motaka2: aha! you see the second block on the 1st image? /dev/mapper/nvidia_afeicaag5 ... that naming tells me that there's a disk taken from a motherboard that had an onboard Nvidia 'fake' RAID controller, and the disk was part of a RAID array
[14:27] <motaka2> TJ-: Yes, I have used another hard drive in this case. What should I do ? It was working for a while
[14:28] <motaka2> TJ-: by another I dont mean two. I have just one hard drive that I took from another case to this case
[14:30] <TJ-> motaka2: right, but on the original PC the disk was connected to the nvidia 'fake' RAID controller and used to create a RAID-0 array using the single disk. That means the controller writes metadata to the underyling device and the 'RAID' array appears slightly smaller than the underlying disk.
[14:31] <motaka2> TJ-: :( I dont understand even a single word. But is there a solution ?
[14:36] <TJ-> motaka2: the output from 'parted -l' isn't very accurate, we need to redo it so I can see the actual sector start/end numbers. Use "parted /dev/sda unit s print" and photograph+upload again please
[14:37] <motaka2> TJ-: Could you please answer your pv ?
[14:39] <smacktalk> what's the best rdp client for connecting to windows boxes?
[14:39] <TJ-> motaka2: I have private messages disabled
[14:39] <Seveas> smacktalk: I like vinagre
[14:40] <motaka2> TJ-: ok wait
[14:40] <ptsh> hi
[14:40] <ptsh> exit
[14:45] <jophish__> sorry, my client bugged out a little; apologies if I've just sent this message:
[14:45] <motaka2> TJ-: Please cCheck that folder again
[14:45] <jophish__> I need to reinstall ubuntu but I have an encrypted home directory on the root partition which I'd like to keep
[14:45] <Sonderblade> any way to check if your ubuntu requires lvm or lvm?
[14:45] <jophish__> how easy is this to do?
[14:45] <Kiborg> Very
[14:45] <Kiborg> I just did it
[14:46] <Kiborg> Just make shure to use same user and password as now
[14:46] <mobile3> akik: are you there?
[14:46] <akik> mobile3: here
[14:47] <jophish__> Kiborg: that's it? cool!
[14:47] <Kiborg> jophish: make copyes of everything you neeed
[14:47] <TJ-> motaka2: looking
[14:47] <Kiborg> jophish: it can still go wrong
[14:48] <jophish__> Kiborg: yeah, it'a backed up anyway, but restoring things is always a pain
[14:48] <tomtomdrum> Can anyone help! I've already tried in the help channel but no one will respond. Ive an encrypted home drive, enabled autologin, started getting the error 'unable to update .iceauthority' I also have trouble mounting the home folder. when I try ecryptfs-mount-private it says error 'encrypted directory is not setup properly' I cannot login, i have to use ctrl+alt+f1 to get to the terminal and
[14:48] <tomtomdrum> try fix from there. any advice??
[14:48] <TJ-> motaka2: I only see the same original 3 photos there right now
[14:48] <mobile3> akik: I installed ubuntu desktop on server then tried to start it, startx , it gave me error, please see here http://pastebin.com/KzPZvNPc
[14:48] <Kiborg> jophish: But for me it worked, are you changing the partitioning?
[14:49] <akik> mobile3: x2go session is started through the x2go client. you don't need xorg to be running on the vps
[14:49] <TJ-> mobile3: start the desktop using "service lightdm start" or "systemctl start lightdm.service"
[14:49] <chinesesausage> hello TJ
[14:49] <mobile3> akik: so what to do?
[14:50] <akik> mobile3: install x2go server on the vps, install x2go client on your client machine, use x2go client to access the x2go server
[14:50] <motaka2> TJ-: Would you please refresh ?
[14:50] <mobile3> akik: I have not installed x2go, I only installed ubuntu desktop
[14:50] <chinesesausage> TJ do you know about Compton compositor?
[14:51] <mobile3> akik: so ubuntu desktop is not required?
[14:51] <TJ-> motaka2: It's magic! It's there now
[14:51] <motaka2> TJ-: :)
[14:51] <akik> mobile3: some desktop environment is needed, be it gnome/kde/mate etc.
[14:52] <mobile3> akik: but I installed ubuntu desktop
[14:52] <akik> mobile3: it might not support the desktops that need hw acceleration nowadays
[14:52] <mobile3> akik: so I need to remove ubuntu desktop?
[14:53] <Kiborg> Hello. I have Ubuntu 15.10 64 bit with Geforce GTX 970. I am using Nvidia propertary drivers form additional drivers. Until recently it has wokred like charm, but after the latest update I am unable to even log in, I get login loop.
[14:53] <akik> mobile3: hold on, i'll check if unity is supported
[14:54] <akik> mobile3: x2go client has an entry for both gnome and unity
[14:54] <TJ-> motaka2: OK, that is starting to confirm my hypothesis. The raw drive has 160,086,528 sectors (~80GiB) but the last partition ends at 150,055,594 - suggesting the RAID meta-data is using the final 30,934 sectors. Let's check that with another photo! "parted /dev/mapper/nvidia_afeicaag unit s print"
[14:54] <akik> does ubuntu desktop equal to unity, i don't know
[14:55] <RogerCreasy> #laravel
[14:56] <mobile3> akik: so I should install x2go server now without removing ubuntu server?
[14:57] <akik> mobile3: yes
[14:57] <akik> mobile3: there's an option in the windows x2go client that could help running the newer desktops but i'll tell you later if the usage is too slow
[14:58] <motaka2> TJ-: uploading ...
[14:58] <motaka2> TJ-: Pls check
[14:58] <akik> mobile3: of course you should install the desktop environment you're used to
[15:00] <blueberr_> join #java
[15:01] <motaka2> TJ-: Can you see it ?
[15:01] <TJ-> motaka2: that's good, you can see that this 'fake' RAID device is 2 sectors smaller than the raw device /dev/sda , this has 160,086,526 sectors
[15:02] <TJ-> motaka2: so, at least now we know precisely what is going on. Now to figure out the best way to work around it
[15:05] <TJ-> motaka2: OK, as for the 'parted' message "Can't have a partition outside the disk!" we can ignore that. That is a false error, due to parted trying to treat a file-system partition (partition 5 of the fakeRAID device) as a raw disk.
[15:06] <TJ-> motaka2: So, as I missed your description of the original fault, can you explain what happens at boot-time?
[15:06] <TJ-> oh drat! he lost the connection
[15:07] <motaka3> TJ-: I am here
[15:07] <akik> TJ-: his computer didn't boot but to the recovery mode, the file system was read only even with remount,rw
[15:07] <TJ-> motaka3: haha great
[15:07] <motaka3> TJ-: While starting ubuntu 12.04 after seeing the grub os selection page , I see the mouse pointer for a secons and then I see a black screen. I tried to load by editing the grub with nomodeset by pressing ctrl+e and then then changing it and then pressing ctrl+x
[15:07] <motaka3> but not only nothiing changed but also after the restart I see nomodeset is removed from the grub
[15:08] <TJ-> motaka3: firstly, edits to the GRUB menu done at boot-time only affect that boot - they aren't saved
[15:08] <TJ-> motaka3: so don't concern yourself on that point
[15:09] <motaka3> TJ-: So what should I do step by step to get my desktop back ?
[15:10] <TJ-> motaka3: akik so you have the root file-system which I am guessing right now is /dev/sda5 or /dev/mapper/nvidia_efeicaag5 , and you cannot make it read-write?
[15:10] <TJ-> motaka3: let's find out which 'device' is providing the root file-system: "mount | grep '/ ' "
[15:10] <newke> if i do apt-get autoremove are previously downloaded installation files still stored somewhere?
[15:11] <TJ-> newke: .deb files may still be in /var/cache/apt/archives/
[15:11] <newke> TJ-: thank you
[15:11] <newke> can i delete those .deb files?
[15:12] <TJ-> newke: it is possible to delete all archived .deb files with "apt-get clean"
[15:12] <newke> TJ-: thank you
[15:12] <zer0_> lol
[15:12] <motaka3> TJ-: uploading
[15:13] <_cb> If I am writing a program where there will be a large number of users but only fileA and FileB per user is it better to have a user folder and inside it File A and File B (many folders, few files per folder) or a FILE A folder, and a FILE B folder and inside a user file (Few Folders but many files per Folder) or it does not matter?
[15:13] <TJ-> motaka3: there should have only been one line from that command which you can just type here... you only need use photo upload/pastebin for lots of lines. Whilst you're stuck in Recovery with no network, we'll be lenient on that rule though :)
[15:13] <motaka3> TJ-: Please check
[15:15] <motaka3> TJ-: :)
[15:16] <TJ-> motaka3: ahhh, you got lots of lines because you didn't notice I had a space in the grep: '/ ' so it would only match that first line you see there. So, the root file-system is coming from the fake-RAID device
[15:17] <TJ-> motaka3: make sure you have the space this time and show us the result of "grep '/ ' /proc/mounts "
[15:17] <motaka3> TJ-: Sorry /dev/mapper/nvidia_afeicaag5 on / type ext4 (rw,errors=remount-ro)
[15:18] <mobile3> akik: are you there ?
[15:18] <akik> mobile3: here
[15:18] <TJ-> motaka3: OK, and now show us what that last command gives you. it should be similar but not entirely the same
[15:19] <mobile3> akik: I installed it on server and also in windows. Now what to do ? How to connect ?
[15:19] <akik> mobile3: did you open the ssh port on the vps iptables?
[15:19] <mobile3> akik: how ?
[15:20] <akik> mobile3: do you use ufw to handle iptables?
[15:20] <mobile3> akik: I don't know what is ufw
[15:21] <mobile3> akik: I do not manage iptable, by default whatever is there is there
[15:21] <akik> mobile3: ok you can run "sudo ufw enable" and then "sudo ufw allow ssh/tcp" to open the ssh port
[15:21] <motaka2> TJ-: uploaded
[15:21] <mobile3> akik: -bash: ufw: command not found
[15:21] <sulin> sdf
[15:21] <akik> mobile3: i'm not sure what you mean by whatever is there. are you in control of the vps?
[15:21] <sulin> What's this?
[15:22] <mobile3> akik: I installed Webuzo control panel which do it
[15:22] <sulin> 这干啥的？
[15:23] <sulin> Xchat 是用来干什么的？
[15:23] <akik> mobile3: "dpkg -l | grep ufw" does that return a line about ufw ?
[15:23] <mobile3> akik: no result
[15:24] <sulin> ？
[15:24] <akik> mobile3: the other choice is that there are no ip filtering rules. you can check with "sudo iptables -L -n -v"
[15:24] <sulin> Is there someone tell me what's this for
[15:24] <akik> mobile3: which ubuntu version is installed there?
[15:24] <jackcom> how can i update ubuntu?
[15:24] <motaka2> TJ-: Are you there ?
[15:25] <TJ-> motaka2: OK, looking now. Just went off to get a coffee
[15:25] <jackcom> apt-get update?
[15:25] <sulin> apt-get update
[15:25] <mobile3> akik: Chain INPUT (policy ACCEPT 1813K packets, 2031M bytes) pkts bytes target prot opt in out source destination Chain FORWARD (policy ACCEPT 0 packets, 0 bytes) pkts bytes target prot opt in out source destination Chain OUTPUT (policy ACCEPT 1437K packets, 1042M bytes) pkts bytes target prot opt in out source destination
[15:25] <motaka2> TJ-: Thank you
[15:25] <akik> mobile3: ok so you can access the server from anywhere?
[15:25] <sulin> Hello
[15:26] <TJ-> motaka2: OK, and that confirms the kernel is treating the root file-system as read-only (ro)
[15:26] <mobile3> akik: yes
[15:26] <mobile3> akik: DISTRIB_ID=Ubuntu DISTRIB_RELEASE=14.04 DISTRIB_CODENAME=trusty DISTRIB_DESCRIPTION="Ubuntu 14.04.3 LTS"
[15:26] <jackcom> how can i update ubuntu?
[15:27] <akik> mobile3: so just start up x2go client, there are a couple of pages to set it up
[15:27] <mobile3> akik: I have started it
[15:27] <zykotick9> jackcom: do you mean, get security updates or do you mean update to a new release of ubuntu?
[15:27] <TJ-> motaka2: first, let's try making it read-write with "mount --no-mtab -o remount,rw /" then do "grep '/ ' /proc/mounts again and just tell me if it now shows it as 'rw' not 'ro'
[15:28] <jct500thz> Xfce has this stupid glitch that's happened before... but I forgot how to fix it.
[15:28] <akik> mobile3: on the first page it asks for about the connection, hostname, username, desktop
[15:28] <akik> mobile3: those are for the vps server details
[15:28] <jct500thz> When I log out, and log back in later, it launches all the apps that I had up last time, but I don't want that.
[15:29] <jackcom> zykotick9: both
[15:29] <zykotick9> jackcom: pick one ;)
[15:29] <jct500thz> I want it to NOT use the last session that I had.
[15:29] <jct500thz> But it doesn't give me the option.
[15:29] <jct500thz> Is there like a Terminal command I can use instead?
[15:30] <mobile3> akik: there is session type, what should I give, unity ??
[15:30] <akik> mobile3: i guess "ubuntu-desktop" means unity. can someone confirm?
[15:30] <mobile3> akik: or gnome, kde
[15:30] <jackcom> first zykotick9
[15:30] <jct500thz> I want to disable the session-restore on Xubuntu
[15:30] <motaka2> TJ-: I hate linux
[15:30] <ikonia> akik: ubuntu-desktop is unity
[15:31] <_ha> .
[15:31] <TJ-> motaka2: I love it :) - can't do diagnosis like this on Windows :)
[15:31] <jct500thz> Whereas it doesn't give me an option anymore, I want to disable it anyway, because I don't want it.
[15:31] <ioria> jct500thz, take a look here maybe : http://askubuntu.com/questions/382331/xubuntu-reopens-last-session-applications-even-though-it-shouldnt
[15:31] <zykotick9> jackcom: to get security updates for your current install, one method - from terminal, is "sudo apt-get update" followed by "sudo apt-get dist-upgrade". for the release-to-release updates... someone else should answer.
[15:32] <akik> mobile3: but it could be that this setup is not made with the 3d/hw acceleration in mind. so if your connection is too slow, you should install another desktop environment
[15:33] <motaka2> TJ-: :) I have uploaded the new result
[15:33] <mobile3> akik: I have good connection, do I need to start something on server like startx ?
[15:33] <akik> mobile3: no
[15:34] <TJ-> motaka2: OK, you see its now 'rw' ? So that worked
[15:34] <motaka2> TJ-: cool, what is the next step ?
[15:34] <jackcom> thanks zykotick9 :)
[15:35] <TJ-> motaka2: all of this tells us the root file-system is not damaged, so the main issue left to diagnose would seem to be the black screen when trying to log in as a user in the GUI, is that correct?
[15:35] <motaka2> TJ-: I dont even see the login page
[15:36] <mobile3> akik: I gave all the details, then password, now it is connected and again disconneced
[15:36] <akik> mobile3: on the tab connection, select wan and on the compression method: select 2m-png
[15:36] <TJ-> motaka2: At this point we need to get that PC on the network so you can pastebin some logs. Is that PC wired to a network, or does it rely on a wireless connection?
[15:36] <motaka2> TJ-: the graphic cards differ from the old case to the new. But as I told you untill not upgrading the packages it was working fine
[15:36] <akik> mobile3: are you able to login via ssh with these same credentials?
[15:37] <motaka2> TJ-: It is wired to a network
[15:37] <akik> :)
[15:37] <Guest75621> did ubuntu has a small one? i mean no desktop.
[15:37] <mobile3> akik: no my speed is not so fast, it is 128 Kilo Byte Per Second
[15:38] <mobile3> akik: should I select 256 jpeg?
[15:38] <akik> mobile3: i didn't ask about the speed but are you able to login from your client machine via ssh with these credentials?
[15:38] <akik> mobile3: the 2m means 2 million
[15:38] <_DB> hey guys I just installed ubuntu
[15:38] <akik> mobile3: it's about number of colours
[15:38] <MonkeyDust> _DB great
[15:39] <_DB> my HDD recently died (windows 10 locked me out of it cant even access it on linux)
[15:39] <messy> hi
[15:39] <TJ-> motaka2: so in theory we might be able to bring up the network manually. First we need to know which interface is the wired interface, then we need to determine the correct method for making it active. Start off with "ifconfig -a" (don't photo the results, just analyse them yourself) and identify the wired network device - probably 'eth0'
[15:39] <_DB> im using a usb to run ubuntu, was wondering I have another usb thats empty, can I install programs into that?
[15:39] <_DB> or somehow use it so I have more space for software
[15:40] <TJ-> motaka2: then "cat /etc/network/interfaces" and check whether there are any entries in that file for the network device you identified. If there are not, that tells us that Network Manager is responsible for managing the devices
[15:40] <_DB> til i buy a new HDD or fix my other one
[15:41] <MonkeyDust> _DB so you can't boot into ubuntu?
[15:41] <mobile3> akik: I am able to connect via same ssh details but it is not showing desktop, also it is getting disconnected after about 10 seconds
[15:41] <motaka2> TJ-: it is eth1
[15:42] <TJ-> motaka2: Good. Is there an entry for 'eth1' in the file /etc/network/interfaces ?
[15:42] <akik> mobile3: what's is the error message at the disconnect stage ?
[15:42] <mrbrdo> hey guys. I have a /64 block of IPv6s and want to bind all of them to my ubuntu server. I only found instructions on how to add specific IPs but not how to add the whole range. Since these are billions of IPs, is there a way to add the whole range instead of individual IPs? Could someone point me in the right direction?
[15:42] <MonkeyDust> mrbrdo try #ubuntu-server
[15:42] <mrbrdo> thanks
[15:42] <zykotick9> _DB: note, you could (with two usbs) do a real install from a liveusb to the other usb... that would give you a little more control
[15:42] <Swish> mrbrdo, what do you mean "bind them" ? You can't route all those IPs without them being in the routing table
[15:43] <motaka2> TJ-: the result is auto lo and on the second line iface lo inet loopback
[15:43] <Swish> erm. If your machine is an endpoint for them, they all have to be listed explicitly, don't they?
[15:43] <mrbrdo> Swish: I mean so I can use them to make connections
[15:43] <mrbrdo> I don't need to open incoming ports though
[15:43] <TJ-> motaka2: OK, that means Network Manager handles the network devices. Do "initctl start network-manager" - hopefully you'll see messages indicating it has started
[15:43] <_DB> oh no i have a real install of ubuntu
[15:43] <_DB> its persistent
[15:44] <mobile3> akik: no message the desktop window is just going to start then closes and session is getting disconnected
[15:44] <Swish> mrbrdo, yeah. As far as I know, you'd have to list each of them explicitly
[15:44] <jct500thz> I'm working on all the Ask Ubuntu answers that I
[15:44] <jct500thz> O
[15:44] <jct500thz> I'm reading over
[15:44] <akik> mobile3: you will find the logs in /tmp/.x2go-username/C-username* on the vps
[15:44] <zykotick9> _DB: ahhh, persistent Live != full install
[15:44] <_DB> i just need more storage space, my usb are both 8gns and unity editor is 3 gbs plus 1 gb for install package
[15:44] <_DB> which is why i need the other usb
[15:44] <_DB> I used the starup disk creator
[15:44] <_DB> ahh ok! lol
[15:45] <MonkeyDust> _DB you didnt install ubuntu on your pc, but on a usb stick?
[15:45] <motaka2> TJ-: So many entries starting with modem manager [] could not get the system bus
[15:45] <_DB> wasnt aware persistent didnt mean full install XD
[15:45] <TJ-> mrbrdo: you'd configure a netfilters rule using ip6tables to redirect all connections to the IPv6 sub-net to a single IPv6 address on the network interface
[15:45] <mrbrdo> Swish: hm okay. so no way to route the whole range to the same if? I also saw something about an "AnyIP" feature but I don't understand it
[15:45] <_DB> yeah my HDD wasnt comaptible i have no idea what windows 10 did to it
[15:45] <akik> mobile3: not sure if it's easier to install for example lxde and try opening a lxde session in the x2go client
[15:45] <etronik> Hi all, I'm trying to run LongoMatch under Ubuntu 14.04 but it keeps complaining some codec is missing, just doesn't tell me which one. Anybody familiar with this and how to solve it ?
[15:45] <_DB> but i font want to format it since i hvae important files
[15:46] <mrbrdo> TJ-: that sounds like something that could work. so when I make a connection I can specify any IP from the range and the remote endpoint will see that IP?
[15:46] <TJ-> motaka2: ahhh, maybe we need to start DBus first! we're having to pretend to be the init system ourselves here. I think maybe we'd be better off actually restarting the PC in normal multi-user mode but telling it not to start the GUI.
[15:46] <Swish> Hey everyone, question about an out-of-memory kill that keeps happining on my ubuntu 14.04.3LTS desktop. In /var/log/syslog I see the line "Unable to purge GPU memory due lock contention." right before it starts OOM-killing my vmware-vmx process. This URL shows where that line is printed, but I am trying to figure out the cause (and if the i915 graphics driver is a red herring or related):
[15:46] <Swish> http://lxr.free-electrons.com/source/drivers/gpu/drm/i915/i915_gem_shrinker.c
[15:46] <_DB> so i installed it onto my usbstick XD
[15:46] <Swish> mrbrdo, lemme google this AnyIP thing...
[15:46] <TJ-> mrbrdo: you'd have to have some connection tracking going on, effectively reverse-NAT
[15:46] <motaka2> TJ-: :)
[15:46] <TJ-> motaka2: so, hang on one moment whilst I describe what you need to do...
[15:47] <mrbrdo> TJ-: thanks I'll write this down and do some more reading
[15:47] <motaka2> TJ-: Is it dangerous to do this? sudo apt-get remove --purge nvidia-*
[15:47] <__raven> how to disable usb autosuspend in 15.10
[15:48] <TJ-> motaka2: ... when the PC reboots get to the GRUB boot menu as you've done before (pressing Esc or holding down Ctrl - so long since I used 12.04 on bare-metal I can't remember which!) and then edit the default entry press navigating to it, pressing 'E' and then navigate to the line starting "linux ..." and add " text" then press Ctrl+X
[15:48] <mrbrdo> TJ-: btw AnyIP does sound like something that could be applicable here http://git.kernel.org/cgit/linux/kernel/git/torvalds/linux.git/commit/?id=ab79ad14a2d51e95f0ac3cef7cd116a57089ba82
[15:48] <TJ-> motaka2: right now, you might make more trouble than you solve doing that
[15:48] <sudo3> hi guys, i have webpage on my vps but when i connect to it, firewall is blocking me I guess, in ssh i can see error "connection refused" and when i wget localhost:80 it gives me same error, can anyone help?
[15:49] <Swish> mrbrdo, that's going to require you to recompile some things. It's not a normal way to use the TCP/IP stack
[15:49] <trisquel> motaka2, "sudo apt-get purge" is shorter
[15:49] <_DB> sudo3 you wouldnt happen to be running lamp? or perhaps port is in use?
[15:49] <motaka2> TJ-: I am in the grub menu
[15:49] <trisquel> and does the same
[15:49] <mobile3> akik: I got this error unable to execute startlxde
[15:49] <mrbrdo> Swish: recompile system stuff or my user program? cause the latter I can do
[15:49] <TJ-> motaka2: OK, add that " text" to the kernel command-line, and boot
[15:50] <_DB> i had similiar problems was because port was in use by my pc
[15:50] <TJ-> mrbrdo: Yes, Any-IP will work best
[15:50] <Swish> route.c sounds like system stuff ;)
[15:50] <akik> mobile3: startlxde is from the package lxde-common
[15:50] <zykotick9> trisquel: and "sudo apt purge foo" is even shorter still ;)
[15:50] <motaka2> TJ-: What is kernel command line ?
[15:50] <trisquel> yeah, might work too
[15:51] <sudo3> hm lamp thx i will try that way
[15:51] <trisquel> i never used "apt" yet
[15:51] <mobile3> akik: so what to do? the error is shown in x2go client
[15:51] <k1l_> mobile3: why not just use the lightdm?
[15:51] <motaka2> TJ-: WHere should I add text
[15:51] <TJ-> Swish: no recompilation required; it's in the kernel
[15:51] <mobile3> k1l_: how?
[15:51] <mrbrdo> Swish: it seems after kernel v3.3 it should be possible just by specifying IP_FREEBIND on the socket when connecting
[15:51] <Swish> ahh okay :)
[15:51] <mrbrdo> I'll try it out but I think I have to upgrade the kernel first :)
[15:51] <akik> mobile3: did you install lxde by "sudo apt-get install lxde" ? it should've brought the right dependencies
[15:52] <TJ-> motaka2: you remember where you added the " nomodeset" parameter? you're doing the same thing now but with " text" instead
[15:52] <trisquel> zykotick9, leeched mint already?
[15:52] <motaka2> TJ-: so instead of nomodeset I should write text?
[15:52] <TJ-> motaka2: correct :)
[15:52] <motaka2> TJ-: Excuse my retardness!
[15:53] <TJ-> motaka2: hehehe ... I need another coffee too, trying to out-think your PC! brb
[15:53] <trisquel> ...retardEDness
[15:53] <__raven> how to disable usb autosuspend in 15.10
[15:53] <k1l_> mobile3: on ubuntu its best to start the *dm (like lightdm) and then just login there.
[15:53] <akik> k1l_: this is x2go server. there's no need for lightdm on the server
[15:53] <k1l_> urgs
[15:54] <MonkeyDust> __raven is this useful http://askubuntu.com/questions/185274/how-can-i-disable-usb-autosuspend-for-a-specific-device
[15:54] <motaka2> TJ-: I dont see nomodeset or quitet splash in there any more
[15:55] <__raven> MonkeyDust: no thats related to laptop-mode tools
[15:56] <TJ-> motaka2: that's fine, they're not needed
[15:56] <MonkeyDust> __raven then you should be more specific and start from the beginning ... keep it in one line, tho
[15:57] <motaka2> TJ-: so where should I write text? in the end ?
[15:58] <__raven> 15.10 disables this every time after 2 seconds without reactivating: "Bus 006 Device 005: ID 03eb:2104 Atmel Corp. AVR ISP mkII" how to stop that
[15:58] <mobile3> akik:k1l_: I am just performing "apt-get install lxde"
[16:00] <MonkeyDust> __raven and define 'this'
[16:00] <motaka2> TJ-: I have uploaded an image too , in case needed
[16:00] <__raven> MonkeyDust: are you able to read and think about what you read?
[16:00] <__raven> but special for you...
[16:01] <__raven> 15.10 disables this every time after 2 seconds without reactivating: "Bus 006 Device 005: ID 03eb:2104 Atmel Corp. AVR ISP mkII" how to stop that autosuspend and how to make it work again
[16:01] <micha_> #moviegods
[16:02] <_DB> :P
[16:02] <TJ-> motaka2: yes, at the end of the line is good, after the "ro"
[16:07] <Hund> "sudo restart deluge-webui" gives med "restart: Unknown instance"?
[16:07] <Hund> me*
[16:08] <motaka2> TJ-: I dont see ro
[16:08] <manornk> How can i check via bash if sound is muted, and if it is to unmute it?
[16:09] <SlidingHorn> Need help diagnosing a crash: installed xubuntu, on an HP 15 (Pentium 3540, 2GB RAM, 2GB swap, Atom Z36xxx/Z37xxx Series graphics) removed all GUI components, reinstalled X, then xdm & openbox. Now having an intermittent crash using "higher-resource" applications (chrome with video, regunum, etc), but /proc/kmsg, /var/log/syslog, and /var/log/dmesg aren't giving any helpful info when watching via SSH. Cannot SSH into victim mach
[16:09] <SlidingHorn> ine after crash. Any suggestions?
[16:09] <TJ-> motaka2: at the end of the line that starts "linux ..."
[16:09] <zykotick9> manornk: alsamixer
[16:09] <motaka2> TJ-: I saw ro and added that and then ctrl+x
[16:09] <TJ-> motaka2: great, so now you should have a console log-in
[16:09] <manornk> zykotick9: I want to do it automaticlly, not to check it manually
[16:09] <motaka2> TJ-: Yes
[16:09] <motaka2> TJ-: I should login as root ?
[16:10] <trisquel> +pavucontrol, manornk
[16:10] <zykotick9> manornk: ok, good luck then. /me has nothin'
[16:10] <manornk> trisquel: Will check it
[16:10] <TJ-> motaka2: no, log-in as your regular user
[16:10] <akik> manornk: you might be able to use amixer to do that
[16:11] <trisquel> pavucontrol is pulseaudio
[16:11] <trisquel> one level higher than alsa
[16:12] <motaka2> TJ-: Ok I am in
[16:12] <manornk> akik: and how can i use it?
[16:12] <TJ-> motaka2: now check there's network connectivity: "ping -c 5 www.ubuntu.com"
[16:14] <motaka2> TJ-: 5 packages transmitted 4 lost
[16:14] <motaka2> TJ-: sorry 4 recived
[16:15] <TJ-> motaka2: OK, that lost 1 might be due to the delay in forwarding. Try the command again, it ought to manage to get replies for all 5 pings
[16:15] <mobile3> akik: are you there ?
[16:15] <motaka2> TJ-: I believe some thing is wrong with graphic card. Maybe not the right packages installed
[16:15] <akik> mobile3: still here :)
[16:15] <TJ-> motaka2: if that is correct we can paste some log files
[16:16] <motaka2> TJ-: now 5 recieved
[16:16] <TJ-> motaka2: first add a package to make pasting simple: "sudo apt-get install pastebinit"
[16:16] <akik> manornk: "amixer set Master mute"
[16:16] <mobile3> akik: I installed lxde and it get connected, Now I am able to view desktop
[16:16] <akik> mobile3: great!
[16:16] <mobile3> akik: Now tell me how to open firefox, I am not able see icons, or any tab
[16:17] <motaka2> TJ-: installing
[16:17] <akik> mobile3: if you need a desktop environment with more features, i'd suggest kde
[16:17] <TJ-> motaka2: hopefully not long now :) with network and pastebinit we can fly
[16:17] <cyber37> Hey guy's, did someone use the tftp tool provided by ubuntu ?
[16:17] <akik> mobile3: there should be a menu in the bottom left corner, maximize the session
[16:17] <mobile3> akik: I right clicked, then from icon , I got trash and documents
[16:17] <motaka2> TJ-: there is an error
[16:18] <TJ-> motaka2: uhoh!
[16:18] <cyber37> according to the man http://linux.die.net/man/1/tftp normaly we are able to send or get a file directly in command line without having to go in the tftp prompt
[16:18] <cyber37> But maybe in my version the -c option isn't implemented
[16:18] <cyber37> I have the version from apt-get
[16:18] <motaka2> TJ-: you have to configure "localepurge" with command ...
[16:18] <mobile3> akik: I maximaze it, now showing, tell me how to install chrome or firefox?
[16:18] <cyber37> i can do : tftp 192.168.1.1 -c put myfile
[16:19] <cyber37> tftp 192.168.1.1 -c "put myfile"
[16:19] <cyber37> doesn't work
[16:19] <TJ-> motaka2: try "sudo apt-get -f install"
[16:19] <cyber37> i also tryed with tftp -c ... 192.168.1.1
[16:19] <akik> mobile3: the way to install more programs is the same way as on your local machine "sudo apt-get install firefox"
[16:19] <akik> mobile3: for chrome you need to go to http://chrome.google.com/ i think it's not in the repositories
[16:20] <ioria> cyber37, i use tftp for pxe diskless boot , not for common file transfert.....
[16:20] <akik> mobile3: i think there is some compatibility problem with x2go and unity. we can try adding that one flag in the x2go client settings
[16:21] <mobile3> akik: but for that I need some browser, I clicked on chromium web browser but it is not opening
[16:21] <ioria> cyber37, you can use vsftpd or sftp
[16:21] <motaka2> TJ-: By a mistake I ran sudo apt-get autoremove, have destroyed everything ?
[16:21] <akik> mobile3: you can open a terminal and install firefox from there
[16:21] <cyber37> hum i need to use tftp protocol
[16:21] <TJ-> motaka2: hopefully not; that removes packages no longer listed as being required by any other package
[16:22] <cyber37> I don't understand why the software "tftp" is not correct with "tftp" man page ..
[16:22] <Aruzsi> He there,
[16:22] <Aruzsi> Please help me solve this apt-get dependencies:
[16:22] <Aruzsi> http://pastebin.com/gVSS58iN
[16:22] <motaka2> TJ-: I think pastebinit is intalled
[16:23] <TJ-> motaka2: "pastebinit <( uname -a; cat /etc/issue; lspci -nnk )"
[16:23] <akik> mobile3: one special thing about x2go is that you can close the x2go client window and the session is left running on the server
[16:23] <mobile3> akik: so whenever I will connect , it will open from there only ?
[16:24] <akik> mobile3: yes the disconnected session will be re-opened as you left it
[16:24] <ioria> cyber37, did you edit /etc/default/tftpd-hpa ?
[16:25] <mobile3> akik: I got this error, when tried to install firefox from command line http://pastebin.com/TniqxkVe
[16:25] <mystupidnick> i have a problem booting ubuntu, when i get to the login screen the usb keyboard and mouse doesnt work
[16:25] <mystupidnick> any idea on if there are some kernel params i can add to make it work?
[16:25] <TJ-> cyber37: "tftp -h" will tell you what options are available to the client
[16:25] <motaka2> TJ-: lspci-nnk command not found
[16:25] <TJ-> motaka2: there's a space before the -
[16:26] <cyber37> mathieu@mathieu-fixe-ubuntu:~/workspace/stm32f4_board_2$ tftp -h
[16:26] <cyber37> -h: unknown host
[16:26] <cyber37> tftp>
[16:26] <TJ-> cyber37: what ubuntu release os that?
[16:26] <cyber37> You understand the problem ? my tftp installed on ubuntu go directly in the PROMPT of TFTP
[16:26] <cyber37> it doesn't accept "commands" *
[16:26] <motaka2> TJ-: http://paste.ubuntu.com/13544310
[16:26] <cyber37> And i don't undestand WHY
[16:26] <cyber37> i am in 14.XX
[16:27] <TJ-> cyber37: "which tftp" and "dpkg -D $(which tftp)" will tell you
[16:27] <akik> mobile3: how did you change to the root account?
[16:27] <TJ-> motaka2: great, thanks, reading now
[16:27] <cyber37> /usr/bin/tftp
[16:27] <motaka2> TJ-: Thank you :)
[16:28] <mobile3> akik: I uses root account always
[16:28] <TJ-> motaka2: ok, the 'lspci' shows us the GPU is an Nvidia GeForce 6200, using the 'nviida' driver
[16:28] <akik> mobile3: the path in that session is not set correctly
[16:28] <TJ-> motaka2: now do "pastebinit <( ls -latr /var/log/ )"
[16:28] <akik> mobile3: btw. don't use root account always
[16:28] <jackcom> apt-get cach ?
[16:29] <jackcom> apt-get cache
[16:29] <jackcom> ?
[16:29] <akik> mobile3: "echo $PATH" should return something like "/usr/local/sbin:/usr/local/bin:/usr/sbin:/usr/bin:/sbin:/bin"
[16:29] <jasabella> hi :)
[16:29] <jackcom> Invalid operation cache
[16:29] <cyber37> TJ- the -D option isn't working (need octal number to debug ? wtf ? )
[16:29] <TJ-> jackcom: what? do you mean "apt-cache <some commands>" ?
[16:29] <jackcom> yes TJ-
[16:29] <motaka2> TJ-: http://paste.ubuntu.com/13544350
[16:29] <jackcom> search
[16:30] <cyber37> But i don't find where i can download source of the REAL tftp software (not the one provided by ubuntu ..)
[16:30] <jackcom> apt-get cache program
[16:30] <mobile3> akik: any problem using root account? Okay will talk on this later... How to change to correct directory?
[16:30] <TJ-> cyber37: which package supplied /usr/bin/tftp according to "dpkg -S " ?
[16:30] <jackcom> TJ-:
[16:30] <mobile3> akik: /usr/local/bin:/usr/bin:/b
[16:30] <zykotick9> jackcom: what are you trying to do?
[16:30] <TJ-> jackcom: why are you typing "apt-get cache" rather than "apt-cache" ?
[16:30] <MonkeyDust> cyber37 i installed tftp in a vm ... when you see the prompt, type ? to see the possible commands
[16:31] <jackcom> apt-get cache
[16:31] <cyber37> mathieu@mathieu-fixe-ubuntu:~/workspace/stm32f4_board_2$ dpkg -S /usr/bin/tftp
[16:31] <cyber37> tftp: /usr/bin/tftp
[16:31] <zykotick9> jackcom: there is no "apt-get cache" command!
[16:31] <cyber37> MonkeyDust i understand that
[16:31] <SchrodingersScat> jackcom: you want apt-cache search name.*orPHrase ; apt-cache is its own command
[16:31] <cyber37> MonkeyDust, i want to use TFTP commands without going in the prompt
[16:31] <cyber37> Like as they said in the MAN
[16:31] <akik> mobile3: you should normally use your non-privileged account. then if you need to run commands which require root access, use sudo. if you need to change to the root account for many successive commands, you can use sudo -i
[16:31] <TJ-> cyber37: that explains it! You should have used "apt-get install tftp-hpa"
[16:32] <cyber37> MonkeyDust can you try it : "tftp 192.168.1.1 -c get foobar" ? please ?
[16:32] <mobile3> akik: from next onwards I will do so... how to change to correct path ?
[16:32] <SchrodingersScat> jackcom: then you can also use apt-cache show packageName to show more details about individual packages
[16:33] <cyber37> TJ- I don't understand how you see that, but yes i have it installed
[16:33] <akik> mobile3: if you use sudo -i from your non-privileged account, you can probably see the correct path with "echo $PATH"
[16:33] <TJ-> cyber37: there are 2 packages that provide /usr/bin/tftp (client), one is 'tftp' the other, better, is 'tfpt-hpa' (hpa = H. Peter Anvin, the legendary Intel core tools developer (responsible for syslinux etc., too)
[16:33] <cyber37> But sudo apt-get install tftp too .
[16:33] <jackcom> apt-cache search python-numpy
[16:33] <jackcom> right?
[16:34] <SchrodingersScat> jackcom: yep, that brings up some python packages
[16:34] <ioria> !info tftpd-hpa
[16:34] <jackcom> thanks SchrodingersScat
[16:34] <cyber37> TJ- Maybe thegood one is the HPA because it's the name of the guy in the MAN PAGE
[16:34] <SchrodingersScat> jackcom: welcome
[16:34] <jackcom> :)
[16:34] <TJ-> cyber37: if you have tftp-hpa also installed that suggests the update-alternatives for /usr/bin/tftp is set to the one from the 'tftp' package. Do "ls -l /usr/bin/tftp*" and you should see all the executables, and be able to directly use the 'hpa' version
[16:34] <TJ-> cyber37: correct :)
[16:35] <TJ-> cyber37: I'd bet /usr/bin/tftp is a sum-link to /etc/alternatives/
[16:35] <motaka2> TJ-: Did you noticed I sent the new link? in case not here it is: http://paste.ubuntu.com/13544350/
[16:35] <akik> mobile3: the path is set in /etc/environment
[16:35] <TJ-> motaka2: no, i didn't; thanks for reminding me :)
[16:36] <motaka2> TJ-: Thank you
[16:37] <cyber37> TJ- I need to reboot i come back.
[16:37] <TJ-> motaka2: hehehe is the time on that system jumped forward to 2016? check with "date" to be sure - those last 4 files in /var/log/ have unusual timestamps
[16:38] <motaka2> TJ-: I really dont know what happened
[16:38] <TJ-> motaka2: "date" and check it says 2015
[16:38] <TJ-> motaka2: it won't hurt too much but it affects how we read the log files, and which ones we pick
[16:38] <motaka2> TJ-: It is 2015
[16:39] <mobile3> akik: I got this using account other than root -- /usr/local/bin:/usr/bin:/
[16:39] <TJ-> motaka2: OK, at some point the time jumped forward a day to 29th November then
[16:40] <TJ-> motaka2: your local time now is around 19:40 or so?
[16:40] <akik> mobile3: what's in /etc/environment ?
[16:40] <motaka2> TJ-: it is 20:10, I am in Iran
[16:41] <TJ-> motaka2: ok, you have a 1/2 hour in your timezone difference. Thanks, that helps me figure out what I'm seeing
[16:41] <mobile3> akik: cd /etc/environment or vi /etc/environment ?
[16:41] <akik> mobile3: i think you have changed something somewhere as you have the root directory / in your path
[16:41] <motaka2> TJ-: Yeah that's right +3:30
[16:41] <motaka2> GMT
[16:41] <akik> mobile3: /etc/environment is a text file, one line. you can cat /etc/environment
[16:42] <TJ-> motaka2: so according to what I see, the last time you tried to start the GUI was around 19:23 ?
[16:42] <motaka2> TJ-: :) I really dont know, maybe
[16:42] <mobile3> akik: PATH="/usr/local/sbin:/usr/local/bin:/usr/sbin:/usr/bin:/sbin:/bin:/usr/games:/usr/local/game
[16:42] <TJ-> motaka2: OK, well let's assume that, because it points to the file I need to see. "pastebinit /var/log/Xorg.0.log"
[16:43] <akik> mobile3: that line is not complete
[16:43] <mobile3> akik: what to do ?
[16:44] <motaka2> http://paste.ubuntu.com/13544533/
[16:44] <akik> mobile3: edit it so that it ends with :/usr/local/games"
[16:44] <LobsterAttack> Despite having all the listed dependencies installed I can't seem to get Darf Fortress Lazy Newb Pack running... Anyone know about it?
[16:44] <jasabella> does mini install the lts version or whatever's latest? i.e. 15.10?
[16:44] <motaka2> TJ-: http://paste.ubuntu.com/13544533/
[16:44] <TJ-> motaka2: that looks good. now "pastebinit /etc/X11/xorg.conf" please
[16:45] <mobile3> akik: do I have to add this at the end of line :/usr/local/games ?
[16:45] <Delta706> Can anyone suggest a free VM provider? I have tried virtualbox but it requires a setting for 64-bit which I cannot enable
[16:45] <ikonia> Delta706: what do you mean requires a 64bit setting ?
[16:45] <akik> mobile3: so that the line ends with a "
[16:45] <ioria> jasabella, yes, if downloaded the wily iso https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/MinimalCD
[16:45] <Delta706> vt-x a bios setting
[16:45] <ikonia> Delta706: thats nothing to do with virtual box
[16:46] <ikonia> Delta706: thats the hypervisor in general wanting to use virtualization options on your chip
[16:46] <mobile3> akik: didn't understand
[16:46] <akik> mobile3: you're missing a " at the end of the line
[16:46] <Delta706> it is a requirement for vbox
[16:46] <motaka2> TJ-: http://paste.ubuntu.com/13544563
[16:47] <ioria> jasabella, but 15.10 it's not lts
[16:47] <mobile3> akik: sorry I missed copying it , but it is actually there PATH="/usr/local/sbin:/usr/local/bin:/usr/sbin:/usr/bin:/sbin:/bin:/usr/games:/usr/local/games"
[16:47] <ikonia> Delta706: you're going to be running in software mode without it,
[16:47] <TJ-> motaka2: right, so far so good! now "pastebinit $HOME/.xsession-errors"
[16:47] <ikonia> which will be very slow
[16:48] <akik> mobile3: when you login to your vps with ssh with your non-privileged account, run "echo $PATH", then "sudo -i", then run a "echo $PATH" again. something has messed your path up
[16:48] <Delta706> as long as it is not too slow, this is fine with me
[16:48] <motaka2> TJ-: http://paste.ubuntu.com/13544605/
[16:48] <mascot66991> hey Guys I migrated from 15..04 to 15.10 and I used to be allowed to increase volume above 100 from top menubar control now I can reach till 100 after which i need to right click and go to setting and increase further.. is this known.. can i change somethin to be able to chane above 100 directly without opening settings each time ?
[16:49] <ikonia> Delta706: it will be too slow
[16:49] <ikonia> Delta706: thats why the virtual machine hypervisors depend on it
[16:49] <zykotick9> ikonia: i believe Delta706 is trying to install a 64bit guest VM, and i do think VBox requires vt-x to do that... 32bit should be fine.
[16:49] <motaka2> I am hungry
[16:49] <Delta706> How many times slower would it be? 10 times, 100?
[16:49] <ikonia> zykotick9: the docs suggest it's 64bit only, but reading the general hypervisor documentation, he's going to struggle without it full stop
[16:49] <jasabella> ooohh ok, there's different one
[16:49] <jasabella> s
[16:49] <TJ-> motaka2: finally we have some clues, at the end of that last log file
[16:50] <motaka2> TJ-: greate
[16:50] <ikonia> certainly try it with a 32bit VM, see how it goes
[16:50] <Delta706> zykotick9: 32-bit is limited to 4 gigs
[16:50] <ikonia> Delta706: this is silly
[16:50] <ikonia> you're VM needs more than 4GB of ram - so it obviously has some performance requirements
[16:50] <zykotick9> Delta706: true, but are you really giving your VM more then 4GB?
[16:51] <ikonia> so then not using hwardware hypervisor support on the chip, does matter
[16:52] <Delta706> yes
[16:52] <ikonia> Delta706: what are you trying to run on this VM
[16:52] <ikonia> lets get some context
[16:52] <TJ-> motaka2: is there a mix of Gnome and KDE on that PC?
[16:52] <mobile3> akik: I got this when run sudo -i softfile is not in the sudoers file. This incident will be reported
[16:54] <mascot66991> hey Guys I migrated from 15..04 to 15.10 and I used to be allowed to increase volume above 100 from top menubar control now I can reach till 100 after which i need to right click and go to setting and increase further.. is this known.. can i change somethin to be able to chane above 100 directly without opening settings each time ?.
[16:54] <Kiborg> Hello. I have Ubuntu 15.10 64 bit with Geforce GTX 970. I am using Nvidia propertary drivers form additional drivers. Until recently it has wokred like charm, but after the latest update I am unable to even log in, I get login loop.
[16:54] <akik> mobile3: add your non-privileged account to the sudo group, then try again
[16:55] <jasabella> select and install software fails for some reason hmmm
[16:55] <MonkeyDust> jasabella what's the output of cat /etc/issue
[16:56] <akik> mobile3: this channel expects you to run ubuntu as it's designed
[16:56] <JuanDaugherty> i wonder why they removed the apache imagemap module?
[16:57] <TJ-> motaka2: the log-file has a suggestion to run "sudo sh -c 'pango-querymodules > /etc/pango/pango.modules' " to fix a configuration error
[16:57] <mystupidnick> can anyone tell me what kernel driver is required for nic Realtek RTL8111/8168/8411?
[16:57] <motaka2> TJ-: :D I dont think so, but because it was slow , I installed something like unity 2d if I rember well
[16:57] <jasabella> nothing there, i went into /var/log/syslog
[16:57] <jasabella> pkgsel failed with code 100
[16:57] <ikonia> jasabella: please show us the output of "cat /etc/issue" in a patebin
[16:58] <ikonia> pastebin
[16:58] <JuanDaugherty> mystupidnick, you can see it in the kernel config menus
[16:58] <motaka2> TJ-: Should I run that ?
[16:58] <ikonia> as motaka2 asked
[16:58] <TJ-> motaka2: Yes
[16:58] <ikonia> or MonkeyDust even
[16:58] <mystupidnick> JuanDaugherty: i cant run that
[16:58] <jasabella> no such file, i'm installing into vmware :)
[16:58] <ikonia> jasabella: that means nothing
[16:58] <ikonia> jasabella: a vmware install would have the same as a physical install
[16:59] <jasabella> it's a fresh install, i've dropped down to shell in the install program
[16:59] <mobile3> akik: I got this with non-root /usr/local/sbin:/usr/local/bin:/usr/sbin:/usr/bin:/sbin:/bin:/usr/games:/usr/local/games
[16:59] <ikonia> jasabella: please show the output of the command "cat /etc/issue"
[16:59] <ikonia> (use a pastebin)
[16:59] <mobile3> akik : I got this with root /usr/local/sbin:/usr/local/bin:/usr/sbin:/usr/bin:/sbin:/bin
[16:59] <akik> mobile3: ok, now apt-get should work
[16:59] <TJ-> motaka2: then you can try starting the GUI and logging in. If that fails, we'll again look at the new log files to look for more certain failure indications. To start the GUI do "sudo service lightdm start"
[16:59] <jasabella> no such flie or directory
[16:59] <JuanDaugherty> https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/apache2/+question/259165
[17:00] <jophish__> How can I reinstall ubuntu without it trying to "reinstall previously installed applicationa"
[17:00] <ikonia> jasabella: re-install, your ubuntu install is missing basic files
[17:00] <ioria> jasabella, how did you do the iso ?
[17:00] <mobile3> akik : which account should I use ? root or non-root ?
[17:00] <akik> non-root with sudo and root without sudo
[17:01] <jasabella> i just used the mini.iso file straight off ubuntu's servers
[17:01] <jasabella> md5sum checks out
[17:01] <jophish__> I have something very wrong with my ubuntu installation, and the reinstaller just puts me right back into that state I think
[17:01] <ikonia> why are you using the mini iso and not a standard install ?
[17:02] <jasabella> 'expert mode' in standard install does autonetwork configuration which i dont want
[17:02] <ikonia> jasabella: what configuration does it not do ?
[17:02] <motaka2> TJ-: It gives two errors, do you need them ?
[17:02] <jasabella> i want to set a static ip address
[17:02] <ikonia> jasabella: you can do that in the standard install
[17:02] <ikonia> you do not need the mini iso for that
[17:02] <ioria> jasabella, and what's the problem ?
[17:03] <TJ-> motaka2: is "it" the "pango-querymodules" command?
[17:03] <ikonia> jasabella: please do a standard install
[17:03] <jasabella> i've instatlled an (older) version of ubuntu before and things are weird
[17:03] <motaka2> TJ-: the secon one yes , says not found
[17:03] <ikonia> not interested in an older version
[17:03] <ikonia> jasabella: please install a standard current ubuntu install
[17:03] <ioria> jasabella, which one ?
[17:03] <mobile3> akik: I got, Thank Thank Very Much!!
[17:03] <TJ-> motaka2: hmm, ok, lets leave that for now then. Move on to starting the GUI
[17:04] <jasabella> 12.04 lts, expert mode, i know what i'm doing (of sorts)
[17:04] <TJ-> motaka2: do "sudo service lightdm start"
[17:04] <jasabella> i just want a minimal server
[17:04] <akik> mobile3: i hope you haven't enabled root logins through ssh...
[17:04] <ioria> jasabella, so ubuntu-server
[17:04] <ikonia> jasabella: so install the standard server install
[17:04] <mobile3> akik: I am using non-root account now
[17:04] <ioria> jasabella, you can select software in there too
[17:05] <jasabella> i dont want any software apart from the base system
[17:05] <ioria> jasabella, anyway, the mini should work....
[17:05] <ikonia> jasabella: use a standard ubuntu install
[17:05] <ikonia> jasabella: it's clear you're not really sure what you're doing
[17:05] <jasabella> i just want to hit no so hopefully it cleans things up
[17:05] <akik> mobile3: let's change that one setting in the x2go client
[17:05] <ikonia> a standard ubuntu server install is good enough for %90 of the community
[17:05] <jasabella> it's downloaded things
[17:05] <ikonia> it should meet your needs just fine
[17:06] <motaka2> TJ-: just a black page
[17:06] <jasabella> can ubuntu server (minimum) run on 256mb of ram?
[17:06] <TJ-> motaka2: OK ... now press Ctrl+Alt+F1 to get back to the text console and we'll investigate the logs
[17:06] <ikonia> jasabella: yes
[17:06] <mobile3> akik: yes tell me
[17:06] <ikonia> jasabella: and to be honest - if it can't, the mini wouldn't either
[17:07] <ioria> jasabella, i installed on a hp nc6000 ....
[17:07] <akik> mobile3: go to options/settings/x.org server settings, click on use custom x-server, then click the button on the executable: line at the right
[17:07] <motaka2> TJ-: it seems it doesnt go anywhere
[17:07] <jasabella> i'm gonna skip that and go straight to putting on a bootloader
[17:07] <ikonia> jasabella: please stop ignoring advice
[17:07] <ikonia> jasabella: please do a STANDARD ubuntu server install
[17:07] <TJ-> motaka2: did the original system that hard disk came from have 2 monitors?
[17:07] <akik> mobile3: then browse to "C:/Program Files (x86)/x2goclient/VcXsrv/vcxsrv.exe"
[17:07] <motaka2> TJ-: no
[17:08] <jasabella> what's the difference between them?
[17:08] <ikonia> jasabella: one will work and be stable, the other will be a mess you create
[17:09] <jasabella> i'll be responsible for my own mess then :D or go back to debian heh
[17:09] <ikonia> jasabella: clearly not as your in this channel with total lack of understanding and asking for help
[17:09] <akik> mobile3: then add -wgl to the command line options on the next line
[17:09] <TJ-> motaka2: OK, you've got a Samsung Syncmaster connected to the VGA output, is that correct?
[17:09] <jasabella> i dont know how your install program works, for some reason it jumps around
[17:10] <akik> mobile3: you need to close the x2go client and start it again for this setting to come active
[17:10] <ikonia> jasabella: use the STANDARD ubuntu server install
[17:10] <ikonia> jasabella: and people can guide you if there is anything unclear
[17:10] <jasabella> i do, i select expert mode and it auto configures everything
[17:10] <ikonia> jasabella: no it doesn't
[17:10] <motaka2> TJ-: Sumsung syncmaster 920N , with a cable like other monitors connecting to graphic card
[17:10] <jasabella> incl. netowrk
[17:10] <MonkeyDust> jasabella you could have avoided all this, if you installed standard ubuntu server
[17:11] <ikonia> lost interest now
[17:11] <jasabella> i wish i could screencast something
[17:11] <jasabella> and show you want happensw hen i start expert install
[17:11] <TJ-> motaka2: I'm making sure there's no config inherited from the last PC the hard disk was in, to cause this. So far I've seen no evidence of that which is good
[17:12] <mobile3> akik: done, what is the benefit of doing this ?
[17:12] <akik> mobile3: this was needed if you run the x2go client from a linux client and a windows client and want to connect to the same disconnected session
[17:13] <akik> mobile3: it could also help if the unity session did not start before
[17:13] <akik> mobile3: can you try starting up the unity session again?
[17:13] <motaka2> TJ-: As I told you this system with the new hard was working fine till It started to do some updates and then asked me to restart and then it ended to that bloody black page
[17:14] <mobile3> akik: Ya sure!
[17:14] <TJ-> motaka2: I did notice mention in the Xorg.0.log that the current output resolution is 1280x1024, but another suggestion that it was expecting 1280x720 - does that sound like the current monitor (128x1024) and the monitor of the previous PC (1280x720) ?
[17:14] <FreakErn> is it possible to create a bridge in interfaces using for example eth0 and the host can still use eth0 for network and internet? when i create br0 the server has no network and internet. maybe someone can help me with this?
[17:14] <FastZ> I have been studying for the Linux+ exam and plan to take it by the end of the year. Does anyone here know of a good practice exam online that I can take before actually sitting for the exam?
[17:15] <motaka2> TJ-: Both systems were using the same monitor, I disconnect one to connect it to other, I just have one monitor
[17:16] <TJ-> motaka2: Strange. OK, anyhow. right now it is still showing a black screen? Is the monitor still actively receiving a signal (should be showing a green LED) or has it gone into standby mode (often the LED will flash, or show orange) ?
[17:16] <MonkeyDust> FastZ #ubuntu-offtopic
[17:17] <TJ-> motaka2: I think what we need to do now is to configure that PC to have openssh-server installed and running, so you can connect to it over the network from the PC you're using for IRC. That way it doesn't matter if the screen goes black, we can actually look at the logs and figure out what state it is in
[17:17] <TJ-> motaka2: is your IRC PC also using Linux?
[17:18] <jasabella> so i select my keyboard in the server iso file and it configures my entire network for me
[17:18] <jasabella> doesnt ask me for a domain name, just a hostname
[17:18] <mobile3> akik: I tried unity, it get connected, the desktop window opened and closed as like before and it get disconnected
[17:18] <jasabella> asks me for a user name now
[17:19] <akik> mobile3: look into the /tmp/.x2go-username/C-* session file
[17:20] <mobile3> akik: where? from terminal?
[17:20] <motaka2> TJ-: Sorry, It is not a pc, it is laptop running windows vista
[17:21] <akik> mobile3: yes. there's also a .xsession-x2go-errors file in your $HOME
[17:21] <MonkeyDust> motaka2 so it's a laptop pc
[17:21] <akik> mobile3: if you can pastebin those, we might be able to find the reason why it doesn't work
[17:21] <TJ-> motaka2: OK, you'd need to install and use the Windows SSH client Putty
[17:22] <BluesKaj> as opposed to a desktop pc I reckon :-)
[17:22] <motaka2> TJ-: I think I have putty, lemme check
[17:22] <akik> mobile3: my guess is that unity expects those 3d acceleration properties that are not there in x2go
[17:22] <TJ-> motaka2: can you remember if the Ubuntu PC already has openssh-server installed? If it does, it should be listening for connections right now and we can avoid having to put it through a reboot
[17:22] <mobile3> akik: well in the x2go clients, some logs are showing can I paste that ?
[17:22] <akik> mobile3: sure, put them into pastebin
[17:23] <motaka2> TJ-: I dont remeber installing such a thing on it
[17:23] <motaka2> TJ-: Cant I do something with LIVE DVD ?
[17:24] <TJ-> motaka2: OK, to save us messing about then, reboot the Ubuntu PC, goto the GRUB boot menu as before, add the " text" again and boot it to the text console. Then we can find out the PC's IP address (which you'll need to connect to it from Putty) and install the openssh-server package
[17:24] <motaka2> TJ-: ok
[17:25] <akik> mobile3: i think gnome shell with some kind of fallback still exists when you don't have 3d acceleration
[17:25] <motaka2> TJ-: I dont have putty on windows let me installl it
[17:26] <zykotick9> akik: ahhh, i'm not sure fallback exists in gnome anymore...
[17:26] <akik> zykotick9: so no way to run either gnome or unity without 3d acceleration anymore?
[17:27] <motaka2> TJ-: :D I wonder why life is so difficult
[17:27] <zykotick9> akik: i'm not sure. so don't take my word for it!
[17:27] <TJ-> motaka2: it's a learning experience :)
[17:27] <TJ-> motaka2: I think the cause is something very simple, but without remote access, diagnosing these things using IRC and pastebins takes about 100x longer than it would
[17:28] <motaka2> TJ-: :) ok
[17:29] <akik> mobile3: kde still works with x2go. you can install it with "sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop"
[17:29] <motaka2> TJ-: I have putty from 2012 can I install that ?
[17:29] <motaka2> TJ-: or I need a fresh version ?
[17:29] <TJ-> motaka2: yes, SSH is SSH it doesn't change that much... as long as Windows doesn't complain :)
[17:30] <motaka2> TJ-: ok it is running, how can I find the IP ?
[17:31] <linocisco> hi all,
[17:32] <linocisco> I need to access one forum which has banned our country IP, which is the most secure and fastest way to access it? some suggested VPN, I dont know which is better for faster access
[17:32] <TJ-> motaka2: the Ubuntu PC you mean? you've logged in to the text console?
[17:33] <mobile3> akik: http://pastebin.com/BHZFVRaM
[17:33] <TJ-> motaka2: "ifconfig eth1" will tell you the IP address (I seem to recall the network was on eth1)
[17:33] <motaka2> TJ-: Yes I have logged
[17:33] <WaynesKaffe> Hello folks! my cpu-indicator (unity indicator) has stop scaling the cpu. It's on powersave mode all time since 2 days ago.
[17:34] <TJ-> motaka2: make a note of the Ubuntu IP address ready for Putty, and then do "sudo apt-get install openssh-server"
[17:34] <heb12> did anyone know ,how to access the su password
[17:34] <motaka2> TJ-: inet addr: 192.168.1.100 ? is that it ?
[17:34] <akik> mobile3: that doesn't tell me anything. you might change the settings in the client connection tab from adsl to wan and 2m-png as the colour mode
[17:34] <akik> mobile3: the error from unity might be in $HOME/.xsession-x2go-errors
[17:35] <TJ-> motaka2: Yes. On Putty you can be creating a connection with that as the hostname/IP address, and put your Ubuntu PC username as the connection username. I've not use Putty in 10 years so you'll have to figure out the connection settings yourself :)
[17:36] <TJ-> motaka2: after 'openssh-server' is installed it will auto-start. Then you can try connecting from Putty, and make sure that is working nicely
[17:36] <TJ-> motaka2: It will also mean you can copy/paste commands to, and links from, pastebinit rather than having to type them
[17:36] <motaka2> TJ-: :( I have putty and I gave it the IP but I dont know where to put the username?
[17:37] <TJ-> motaka2: I can't help you there; as i recall there's a connection edit tab/dialog with fields for each
[17:37] <mobile3> akik: I run using non-root -bash: /root/.xsession-x2go-errors: Permission denied also using root account -bash: /root/.xsession-x2go-errors: Permission denied
[17:37] <akik> mobile3: oh ok. i checked the page at http://wiki.x2go.org/doku.php/doc:de-compat unity is not any more compatible with x2go since ubuntu 12.10
[17:37] <akik> mobile3: please don't login to x2go session with the root account
[17:38] <TJ-> motaka2: this page seems to show how to do it: http://www.windowstipspage.com/configure-putty-connection-manager/
[17:38] <akik> mobile3: and disable root logins in your sshd
[17:38] <mobile3> akik: when it didn't work in non root so I changed to root
[17:38] <mobile3> akik: so should I remove ubuntu desktop ?
[17:39] <jasabella> that's not putty per se :/
[17:39] <akik> mobile3: sorry i have to leave but it's good that you got the desktop working from the server
[17:39] <jasabella> that's putty cm
[17:39] <jasabella> once you are connected, unless your server is configured to take key auth only, it wll prompt you for user name and password
[17:39] <motaka2> TJ-: https://www.dropbox.com/s/mz8nyov80foy9ec/Untitled.jpg?dl=0
[17:39] <mobile3> akik: should I remove ubuntu desktop ?
[17:39] <mystupidnick> now i know how i borked my system. i removed the dkms package
[17:40] <akik> mobile3: no, you can have many desktop environments installed at a time
[17:40] <mystupidnick> there is no warning anywhere that that package is absolutely essential...
[17:40] <akik> mobile3: i would be more worried about those root logins
[17:40] <jasabella> aptitude why dkms is your friend :)
[17:40] <linuzo> Anyone here have an idea how to change the audio driver in ubuntu 15.04 ?? I want to use another driver because currently my subwoofer doesn't work with this one but on Linux Mint 17.2 it uses the Lynx Point HD Audio driver and works. So I'm assuming if I update the driver it should work on my current machine Lenovo Y50 - 2015
[17:40] <mobile3> akik: ha ha, I will take care of that from now on... Thank You Very Much!!
[17:41] <MonkeyDust> linuzo ask in the Mint channel, it's not supported here
[17:41] <linuzo> I'm using Ubuntu
[17:41] <TJ-> motaka2: Put the IP address in the "HostName (or IP address) text-box, then in the left-side tab, select the "SSH" tab, and you ought to be able to add a username.
[17:42] <MonkeyDust> linuzo what's the output of cat /etc/issue
[17:42] <jasabella> does ubuntu use /etc/issue as some obscure logging file?
[17:42] <linuzo> your server is configured to take key auth only, it wll prompt you for user name and password
TJ-: https://www.dropbox.com/s/
[17:42] <linuzo> oops
[17:42] <linuzo> Ubuntu 15.04 \n \l
[17:44] <linuzo> I just want to know where there is some documentation where I can force another driver to be used by alsa or pulseaudio
[17:44] <linocisco> I need to access one forum which has banned our country IP, which is the most secure and fastest way to access it? some suggested VPN, I dont know which is better for faster access
[17:44] <zykotick9> linuzo: note, at the "driver" level, it's just an alsa issue...
[17:46] <FreakErn> can someone help me, i have some trouble creating a network bridge?
[17:46] <motaka2> TJ-: https://www.dropbox.com/s/pbierdox2g3u3jl/Puuty.jpg?dl=0
[17:47] <jasabella> motaka... it's under Auth iirc
[17:47] <TJ-> motaka2: explore; I suspect the "Auth" entry under "SSH" in the sidebar might be the place
[17:48] <FreakErn> i created a network bridge like in the german wiki but after that my host is not reacheable from network and the host has no internet
[17:48] <jasabella> connection > data if you want to put user name
[17:48] <jasabella> (auth is for keys)
[17:49] <linuzo> yeah ok thanks anyways.. this channel sucks these days.. bunch of newbies in here not even helpful anymore..
[17:49] <linuzo> 10 years ago this place was more helpful..
[17:50] <motaka2> TJ-: Should I stop ani virus?
[17:50] <MonkeyDust> highlight virus
[17:50] <MonkeyDust> (exciting)
[17:52] * jasabella *sighs*
[17:53] <motaka2> TJ-: I replaced the old putty with new one and it doesnt work, is there an alternative?
[17:53] <moody> help
[17:53] <MonkeyDust> moody start with a question
[17:53] <moody> tor not work
[17:54] <TUB4LC41N> do anyone speak portuguese?
[17:55] <ikonia> !br | TUB4LC41N
[17:56] <TJ-> motaka2: putty shouldn't need A/V disabling. What "doesn't work"? Do you mean you've added the connection details correctly but connection is refused/fails, or that it connects but authentication fails?
[17:56] <jasabella> maybe firewall *cough*
[17:56] <mobile3> leaving!!
[17:56] <MonkeyDust> moody "The #tor channel is at irc.oftc.net."
[17:57] <motaka2> TJ-: no the putty program. when I double click on it windows says puTTY should be closed because of a problem
[17:58] <TJ-> motaka2: I'm not sure about that, seems like a Windows specific issue. The original PuTTY you started was running OK?
[17:58] <motaka2> TJ-: Yes
[17:59] <TJ-> motaka2: I found another PuTTY connection tutorial, it says the username is added under the Connection>Data sidebar, in the "Auto-login username" field
[18:00] <jasabella> TJ-... that's what i was telling you :)
[18:00] <motaka2> TJ-: https://www.dropbox.com/s/n0y4zn9uxjq3zqu/Crash.jpg?dl=0
[18:01] <TUB4LC41N> obottu, muito obrigado. ;)
[18:02] <pierut> ohi
[18:03] <TUB4LC41N> oi
[18:03] <TJ-> jasabella: you didn't prefix your message with my nickname so I never saw it
[18:03] <TUB4LC41N> estou com problemas pra instalar o popcorn time no elementary[
[18:04] <MonkeyDust> !pt
[18:04] <ikonia> !elementary | TUB4LC41N
[18:04] <TJ-> motaka2: I can't help you with that I'm afraid; maybe read what the "View problem details" says for clues.
[18:05] <TUB4LC41N> sorry, I tiped in the wrong channel
[18:05] <TJ-> motaka2: the important thing here is to get a remote connection the Ubuntu PC so when the screen goes black we can actively investigate, rather than try to reconstruct events from log files that may not capture the issue - especially if as far as the system is concerned it is running fine and its not aware you can't see its output
[18:07] <motaka2> TJ-: https://www.dropbox.com/s/8ousukv874wxiru/Screenshot%202015-11-28%2021.36.41.png?dl=0
[18:08] <motaka2> TJ-: Is there a way to do that without PuTTy ?
[18:10] <TJ-> motaka2: another Linux PC with ssh
[18:11] <jasabella> what's motaka trying to do?
[18:12] <TJ-> jasabella: we need an ssh connection to a 12.04 desktop that goes black-screen when logged in, the GUI session is running but the output is blank. No clues in the logs of a failing X server, so we need to check it whilst it is 'live'
[18:12] <motaka2> TJ-: I am trying to install kitty
[18:12] <TJ-> motaka2: OK, anything that can do SSH sessions from Windows
[18:12] <jasabella> did you try going to to another terminal?
[18:13] <jasabella> Ctrl+Alt+F1 on the machine
[18:13] <shay> can anyone tell me the proper procedures for reaver...??
[18:13] <TJ-> jasabella: yes, 1st thing we did. Nothing
[18:13] <TJ-> motaka2: my responses may be delayed because I'l repairing a motherboard here
[18:14] <jasabella> motaka is your ssh server set to use certificates only or can you login with passwords?
[18:15] <host> hi
[18:15] <lettuce45> who can invite me to openvpn?
[18:15] <host> why?
[18:16] <zykotick9> !register | lettuce45
[18:19] <blunder> Quit
[18:20] <jzeolla> Ugh. Anyone here proficient with preseed and disk mgmt?
[18:20] <jzeolla> My partman stuff doesn't error out but I'm not sure if it's doing what I expect. After the install and reboot I get "error: no such partition" in grub and it throws me to grub rescue.
[18:21] <jwtiyar> why my files become read-only ?
[18:21] <Rafibd01717> I want to delete Vim completely from my machine. How can I do so?
[18:22] <MonkeyDust> Rafibd01717 try sudo apt purge vim
[18:22] <Rafibd01717> MonkeyDust I did it
[18:22] <shay> MonkeyDust: plz tell me the proper procedures for reaver...
[18:23] <Rafibd01717> but I still can open vim from terminal using vim command
[18:23] <MonkeyDust> shay what's reaver?
[18:23] <jasabella> Rafibd01717... which fim
[18:23] <jasabella> which vim
[18:23] <zykotick9> MonkeyDust: wireless cracking software
[18:23] <Rafibd01717> usr/bin/vim
[18:23] <jasabella> is it a symbolic link?
[18:24] <jasabella> file $(which vim)
[18:24] <Rafibd01717> but I cant remove the file from their as when I right click on the icon I don't see any remove option
[18:24] <MonkeyDust> shay not sure why you're addressing me, ask the channel
[18:24] <shay> MonkeyDust: brute force attack on wifi protected systems
[18:25] <zykotick9> Rafibd01717: i'd suggest against manually deleting files! that'll lead to tears. also, removing vi(m) seems strange - why?
[18:25] <jasabella> i'm wondering if it's to do with alternates system
[18:25] <MonkeyDust> shay nice to know
[18:25] <jzeolla> shay what are you looking to do?
[18:25] <jasabella> if it is a link, readlink -f $(which vim)
[18:25] <jzeolla> Just break WPS?
[18:25] <jasabella> maybe it's the alias provided by the alternatives system
[18:25] <zykotick9> jzeolla: cracking/"hacking" software is offtopic in #ubuntu
[18:26] <Rafibd01717> I tried to install vundle and some other plugins
[18:26] <Rafibd01717> but it seems I messed everything
[18:26] <Rafibd01717> so I want to completely remove vim and then reinstall a fresh copy of it
[18:26] <Rafibd01717> after it I want to try the plugins again
[18:27] <zykotick9> Rafibd01717: instead of the windows uninstall/reinstall... i'd suggest you check the setting in your home directory. best of luck regardless.
[18:27] <shay> ok my mistake,i shouldn't have asked it here...
[18:27] <jzeolla> zykotick9 Well, I don't know enough about what he's doing to know if it's Ubuntu-specific or not.
[18:28] <jzeolla> zykotick9 Regardless, I would love to chat about some preseed per my previous comment
[18:28] <zykotick9> jzeolla: all i'm saying, is don't provide support for reaver here, regardless of cause.
[18:28] <jwtiyar> system suddenly goes to read-only system , any help?
[18:28] <jasabella> Rafibd01717... so is it a symbolic link or an actual binary?
[18:28] <Rafibd01717> so nobody actually know how to completely uninstall vim from ubuntu?
[18:28] <ikonia> Rafibd01717: why do you want to do this ?
[18:28] <jzeolla> shay Try #Kali-linux
[18:28] <jasabella> *sigh*
[18:28] <Rafibd01717> symbolic link
[18:28] <jasabella> symblic link
[18:28] <jasabella> hah
[18:29] <jasabella> so readlink -f and see where i'ts going
[18:29] <jasabella> or ls -al
[18:29] <Rafibd01717> jasabella you recommend me to remove the dir/file manually?
[18:29] <jasabella> no
[18:29] <ikonia> Rafibd01717: why do you want to remove vim /
[18:29] <jasabella> it's probably a link provided by the alternatives system
[18:29] <Rafibd01717> ikonia: I explained it buddy
[18:30] <jasabella> it's nto the actual program
[18:30] <ikonia> Rafibd01717: I've not seen any explination
[18:30] <zykotick9> Rafibd01717: be careful! you're probably messing with the "alternatives" system! vi is a posix requirement, so some form of vi(m) _is_ required on your system. "sudo apt-get purge vim" is the most complete uninstall of vim you can do. vim-tiny is still going to be installed though.
[18:30] <jasabella> it's debian/ubuntu's way of makig it easier to configure your system to have multiple packages do the same thing
[18:30] <jasabella> (in this case, provide a text editor)
[18:30] <zykotick9> Rafibd01717: again, it's the setting in your home directory you should be worried about.
[18:30] <jasabella> so where is the link going?
[18:30] <Rafibd01717> well I actually did sudo apt... thing.
[18:31] <Rafibd01717> still I see vim is installed
[18:31] <ikonia> why do you want to remove vim
[18:31] <jasabella> Rafibd01717... do you know what a symbolic link is?
[18:31] <jasabella> it's like a shortcut on windows or an alias on the mac
[18:31] <Rafibd01717> jasebella: no
[18:31] <jasabella> it isnt the actual program
[18:31] <zykotick9> Rafibd01717: ubuntu-desktop metapacke is going to keep vim-tiny (which is vi really) installed on your system!
[18:31] <jasabella> it just sits there to "assist" programs which want to start vim when vim isnt installed
[18:32] <jasabella> chances are it points to nano or something simple like that
[18:32] <johnmarcogb1998> hkp://keyserver.ubuntu.com:80 --recv-keys BBEBDCB318AD50EC6865090613B00F1FD2C19886
[18:32] <jasabella> you need a text editor on your system
[18:32] <jasabella> paste this : readlink -f $(which vim)
[18:32] <zykotick9> ^ actually is there a lower level metapackage with ubuntu? ubuntu-base or something? cause then vim-tiny would be there instead.
[18:32] <ikonia> what is the purpose of removing vim ?
[18:32] <badbodh> ubuntu-minimal
[18:32] <jasabella> they don tsupport ubuntu minimal in here apparently, i tried earlier :P
[18:33] <ikonia> ubuntu minimal is supported
[18:33] <zykotick9> ikonia: Rafibd01717 is trying to uninstall/reinstall to fix something... i don't think it's a good idea
[18:33] <ikonia> removing vim won't fix a problem
[18:33] <badbodh> no the metapckage, contains vim-tiny
[18:33] <jasabella> Rafibd01717... did you do that command?
[18:33] <ikonia> Rafibd01717: why do you want to remove vim
[18:33] <ikonia> lets find out what's going on here
[18:33] <badbodh> agreed
I want to delete Vim completely from my machine. How can I do so? ikonia
[18:34] <ikonia> but WHY
[18:34] <jasabella> dpkg -l | grep vim
[18:34] <jasabella> see if it's stil installed or something
[18:35] <badbodh> only two packages contain vim : vim and vim-tiny
[18:36] <mystupidnick> it seems like the driver r8169 is missing from my kernel, what do i need to do to rebuild the kernel/initrd so it is included?
[18:38] <MrSpock> mystupidnick: you might want to try the out of tree 8168 instead, depending on just what card you have
[18:38] <MrSpock> I doubt that your kernel is missing that module though
[18:39] <mystupidnick> it is because lsmod doesn't list it
[18:39] <ikonia> lsmod shows what's loaded
[18:39] <ikonia> not what's in the kernel
[18:39] <mystupidnick> find doesnt find it either
[18:40] <mystupidnick> the module *is* missing
[18:40] <ikonia> is it supposed to be included
[18:40] <ikonia> or does it come from an external vendor
[18:40] <mystupidnick> included
[18:41] <badbodh> mystupidnick, check in /etc/modprobe.d for any blacklist files, if one of them contains r8169 module won;t be loaded
[18:41] <ikonia> then it will be included in your system
[18:41] <ikonia> ubuntu does not remove modules
[18:42] <badbodh> once you make sure it;s not blacklisted you may "sudo modprobe r8169" to force start
[18:42] <motaka2> TJ-: Now I can run putty and after running it by giving it address and username it says network error connection refused
[18:42] <badbodh> also add r8169 in /etc/modules to auto-load it every boot
[18:43] <mystupidnick> badbodh: it's not blacklisted and modprobe r8169 says the module isn't found
[18:43] <the_count> Bashing-om: Ok... I'm going to install 15.10 today, How would be the bast way to make a complete restorable backup of 14.04 that I have now?
[18:44] <mystupidnick> when im booting from a live cd, the r8169 module is loaded fine so in this case ubuntu has stripped it from the kernel
[18:44] <badbodh> mystupidnick, run "lspci -k" and share output on pastebin.
[18:44] <TJ-> motaka2: That's good. You've got a text console in use on the Ubuntu PC?
[18:45] <motaka2> TJ-: As you said before? Yes
[18:45] <mystupidnick> badbodh: the nic is listed: lscpi -k -> 02:00.0 Ethernet controller: Realtek Semiconductor ...
[18:45] <badbodh> i don;t want ... reply, gimme whole pastebin :/
[18:46] <the_count> How is the best way to create a restorable backup of Ubuntu ~80gb in size total to a portable Hard drive.
[18:46] <mystupidnick> badbodh: i can't since i have no network on that computer
[18:46] <Bashing-om> the_count: My means .. is I only backup/restore my personal files .. After all, all system files are on the install .
[18:46] <badbodh> mystupidnick, you got a pen drive ? copy/paste on a text file
[18:46] <TJ-> motaka2: check the sshd service is running: "service ssh status"
[18:47] <motaka2> is this the next step in ubuntu? sudo apt-get install openssh-server openssh-client
[18:47] <badbodh> mystupidnick, are you chatting on a phone or a pc right now ?
[18:47] <motaka2> TJ-: unrecognized service
[18:48] <mystupidnick> badbodh: computer.
[18:48] <the_count> Bashing-om: Yes.. Ok.. How do I make a full backup of my home directory? as well as my PATH variables. Everything including rsa keys in there, etc...
[18:49] <badbodh> mystupidnick, never mind. just tell me what does it say for "Kernel driver in use" and "Kernel module"
[18:49] <TJ-> motaka2: you did install it earlier, didn't you?
[18:49] <TJ-> motaka2: "sudo apt-get install openssh-server" ?
[18:49] <motaka2> TJ-: no i dont think so
[18:50] <mystupidnick> badbodh: it doesnt say that line at all.
[18:50] <badbodh> hmm
[18:50] <Bashing-om> the_count: Investiage ' man rsync ' If your home dirtectory is "large" .
[18:52] <TJ-> motaka2: that'd explain it not working then :) install it, then check it runs with "service ssh status", assuming that says "ssh start/running, process XXXX" then try a PuTTY connection
[18:52] <badbodh> mystupidnick, run "modprobe --list *8169* " does it list anything ?
[18:52] <akik> mystupidnick: you could try reinstalling the linux-image-extra package. r8169.ko comes from that package
[18:53] <motaka2> TJ-: ssh start/running in progress 4848
[18:53] <akik> mystupidnick: you can verify the installed package with dpkg -V linux-image-extra (needs your version number)
[18:54] <mystupidnick> akik: yes that package is missing
[18:54] <motaka2> TJ-: logged in ssh :)
[18:55] <jgcampbell300> hello, is this a help channel
[18:55] <jubo2> jgcampbell300: yeah
[18:55] <Bashing-om> jgcampbell300: A help channel for 'buntu, yes .
[18:56] <jgcampbell300> Got an issue here, Cant for the life of me figure out how to enable usb headset. it shows up but is disabled
[18:58] <jgcampbell300> sudo apt-get install pavucontrol && sudo apt-get install paprefs still nothing ... seems like i had this problem before but for the life of me cant remember what the solution was
[18:59] <motaka2> TJ-: :) You are there?
[18:59] <TJ-> motaka2: Yay! party-time :D ... OK, in the SSH session do "sudo service lightdm start", then on the Ubuntu PC at the GUI greeter do the log-in. tell me when the screen has gone black
[18:59] <MonkeyDust> jgcampbell300 "for the life of me" ... not too dramatic, it's only a headset
[18:59] <badbodh> akik, he doesn;t have network. needs to download the debs using second computer
[19:00] <mystupidnick> akik: that solved it thanks
[19:00] <ioria> jgcampbell300, cat /proc/asound/cards
[19:00] <akik> badbodh: ok
[19:00] <jgcampbell300> MonkeyDust: lol
[19:00] <SCHAAP137> anyone else have the mouse cursor forcibly moving towards the top left @ Postal 2 in Steam for Linux?
[19:01] <badbodh> !cookies | akik
[19:01] <motaka2> TJ-: I did sudo service lightdm start and now the ubuntu is in that black page, but I dont understand "then on the Ubuntu PC at the GUI greeter do the log-in. tell me when the screen has gone black"
[19:01] <akik> thanks :)
[19:01] <mystupidnick> i had previously removed the linux-image-extra package, i think apt-get should give you some kind of warning
[19:02] <badbodh> you can run a system without it, not a dependency or something
[19:02] <badbodh> so apt won;t bother
[19:02] <TJ-> motaka2: OK, don't worry, i just wanted you to get the GUI to start so it goes black.
[19:02] <TJ-> motaka2: On the Putty terminal, do "pastebinit /var/log/Xorg.0.log"
[19:02] <motaka2> TJ-: :) ok
[19:03] <mystupidnick> badbodh: but without the drivers in that package your hw won't work
[19:04] <motaka2> TJ-: is there a way to copy from putty terminal
[19:04] <motaka2> ?
[19:04] <TJ-> motaka2: I have no idea! try it :)
[19:04] <motaka2> TJ-: http://paste.ubuntu.com/13546655/
[19:04] <akik> motaka2: you just paint the text and it puts the text in the clipboard
[19:04] <badbodh> mystupidnick, to that aptitude would say "not my bloody job" , apt resolves deps. that's it. everything else is your call :)
[19:04] <motaka2> akik: thx
[19:05] <TJ-> motaka2: right, that confirms the X server is still running. Now do "pastebinit <( xrandr -q )"
[19:05] <motaka2> TJ-: donkarlo@mohammad-desktop:/$ pastebinit <( xrandr -q )
[19:05] <motaka2> Can't open display
[19:05] <motaka2> You are trying to send an empty document, exiting.
[19:06] <Rafibd01717> hi
[19:06] <Rafibd01717> I see this message when trying to install vim
[19:06] <Rafibd01717> no terminal library found
[19:06] <Rafibd01717> checking for tgetent()... configure: error: NOT FOUND!
[19:06] <Rafibd01717> You need to install a terminal library; for example ncurses.
[19:06] <Rafibd01717> Or specify the name of the library with --with-tlib.
[19:06] <Rafibd01717> make: *** [auto/config.mk] Error 1
[19:06] <mystupidnick> badbodh: im saying it should be a dependency on ubuntu-minimal or ubuntu-desktop.
[19:06] <mystupidnick> badbodh: otherwise you can't know that removing linux-headers-* is fine but linux-image-extra-* is not
[19:07] <jgcampbell300> wow that was easy .. just restarted and headphones enabled
[19:07] <Rafibd01717> sorry guys.. http://paste.ubuntu.com/13546722/
[19:07] <TJ-> motaka2: sorry, I wasn't paying full attention! "pastebinit <( xrandr --display :0.0 -q )"
[19:07] <Rafibd01717> please see this link
[19:07] <badbodh> mystupidnick, headers for compiling stuff, image/image extra for kernel/modules. next time don't randomly remove things, google first
[19:08] <MonkeyDust> jgcampbell300 see... no need to be dramatic
[19:08] <Rafibd01717> actually it says me to install a terminal library. I think installing a terminal library will fix the problem
[19:08] <jgcampbell300> MonkeyDust: Sorry
[19:08] <badbodh> if a package is installed, there is a good reason behind it. if you need elaborate warnings, switch to arch linux. pacman does that quite often
[19:08] <Rafibd01717> but how can I instally a terminal library?
[19:09] <ioria> Rafibd01717, you're installing vim or compiling it ?
[19:09] <Rafibd01717> installing
[19:09] <akik> Rafibd01717: you should make it clear that you're compiling from source vs. installing pre-built packages
[19:09] <motaka2> TJ-: http://paste.ubuntu.com/13546763/
[19:09] <mystupidnick> badbodh: i did, the links indicates the package is non-essential which is wrong
[19:10] <Rafibd01717> well I did add vim from git using git clone URL
[19:10] <Rafibd01717> is it enough? or I need to cd into src and then make too?
[19:11] <badbodh> mystupidnick, problem solved. learn from it. move on.
[19:11] <Rafibd01717> and what is the latest version of vim?
[19:11] <ioria> !info vim | Rafibd01717
[19:11] <TJ-> motaka2: drat, the commands were different back on 12.04! Do "pastebinit <( xrandr -display :0.0 -q )"
[19:12] <motaka2> TJ-: donkarlo@mohammad-desktop:/$ pastebinit <( xrandr -display :0.0 -q )
[19:12] <motaka2> No protocol specified
[19:12] <motaka2> Can't open display :0.0
[19:12] <motaka2> You are trying to send an empty document, exiting.
[19:13] <badbodh> you sure it's 0.0 and not just :0 ?
[19:13] <jgcampbell300> can anyone tell me where the default settings for clock are stored
[19:13] <TJ-> badbodh: shouldn't make a difference, but yes, that was what I was about to suggest
[19:13] <parzival> http://downloads.khinsider.com/u?=1256972
[19:14] <TJ-> motaka2: try this: "xrandr -display :0 -q" ... do you get output other than the usage help?
[19:14] <badbodh> just run "xrandr" and check if it's 0,1,2.... you need
[19:14] <TJ-> badbodh: this is on a remote ssh connection
[19:14] <badbodh> oh
[19:14] <motaka2> TJ-: donkarlo@mohammad-desktop:/$ xrandr -display :0 -q
[19:14] <motaka2> No protocol specified
[19:14] <motaka2> Can't open display :0
[19:14] <the_count> Bashing-om: Think I am getting it
[19:14] <TJ-> xorg log shoes it's :0
[19:15] <TJ-> motaka2: hmmm, ok let's check the X server is running: "ps -efly | grep X"
[19:15] <akik> maybe you need the xauth cookies
[19:15] <TJ-> akik: logged in as the same user as GUI, but possible. Best make sure the X server is still alive first
[19:16] <motaka2> TJ-: donkarlo@mohammad-desktop:/$ ps -efly | grep X
[19:16] <motaka2> R root 20945 5426 0 80 0 31240 13986 ? 22:45 tty7 00:00:00 /usr/bin/X :0 -auth /var/run/lightdm/root/:0 -nolisten tcp vt7 -novtswitch
[19:16] <motaka2> S donkarlo 20947 5284 0 80 0 776 1101 pipe_w 22:45 pts/0 00:00:00 grep --color=auto X
[19:16] <motaka2> donkarlo@mohammad-desktop:/$
[19:16] <Rafibd01717> Guys
[19:16] <lotuspsychje> Rafibd01717: whats up
[19:17] <MonkeyDust> motaka2 next, use a pastebin
[19:17] <Rafibd01717> I uninstalled mongodb according to the given instruction in mongodb doc
[19:17] <Rafibd01717> but I see this when I try to do sudo apt-get update
[19:17] <Rafibd01717> http://paste.ubuntu.com/13546921/
[19:17] <motaka2> MonkeyDust: ok sorry
[19:18] <Rafibd01717> what is the problem and how can I solve it? http://paste.ubuntu.com/13546921/
[19:18] <lotuspsychje> Rafibd01717: did you add ppa's to install mongodb?
[19:19] <Rafibd01717> no
[19:19] <Rafibd01717> direct installation from git repo
[19:19] <lotuspsychje> Rafibd01717: why didnt you install it from official repos?
[19:19] <lotuspsychje> !info mongodb | Rafibd01717
[19:19] <Rafibd01717> I don't know
[19:19] <ioria> ^_?
[19:19] <MonkeyDust> Rafibd01717 sudo apt install mongodb
[19:20] <lotuspsychje> Rafibd01717: try to see your sources, to see if any ppa slipped in
[19:20] <motaka2> TJ-: did you see the result
[19:21] <lotuspsychje> !sources | Rafibd01717
[19:21] <ispirto> so what distro is systemd free, comes with gnome, debian based, comes with kernel 4.x
[19:21] <lotuspsychje> ispirto: you joined an ubuntu support channel here mate
[19:21] <Rafibd01717> lotuspsychje: I am not sure what are you talking about
[19:22] <Rafibd01717> ubottu: sorry?
[19:22] <Rafibd01717> ubottu: hehehe
[19:22] <ispirto> i know lotuspsychje
[19:22] <ispirto> wanted to see if someone knows about a distro like that
[19:23] <Rafibd01717> ubottu: actually I was talking to you and you pm me
[19:23] <lotuspsychje> ispirto: and its offtopic here,as you joined an ubuntu support channel
[19:23] <the_count> Rafibd01717: It really is a bot
[19:23] <Rafibd01717> lotuspsychje: I need to use !source to see what?
[19:24] <lotuspsychje> Rafibd01717: check your sources.list, to see if a non-official ppa slipped in your system
[19:24] <lotuspsychje> Rafibd01717: if it does, you will have to remove the ppa first
[19:24] <Rafibd01717> !sources is the command for seeing only mongodb ppas?
[19:25] <TJ-> motaka2: yes... can you do "pastebinit <( ps -efly )" so we can see all the running processes
[19:25] <lotuspsychje> Rafibd01717: read the webpage above; scroll up
[19:26] <lotuspsychje> Rafibd01717: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Ubuntu
[19:26] <linocisco> hi all
[19:26] <Rafibd01717> lotuspsychje: well I see a very big info in terminal
[19:26] <linocisco> I want to create learners dairy for example , learning ubuntu daily or something like that on web
[19:26] <linocisco> what to use?
[19:27] <motaka2> TJ-: donkarlo@mohammad-desktop:/$ pastebinit <( ps -efly )
[19:27] <motaka2> Failed to contact the server: [Errno socket error] [Errno -2] Name or service not known
[19:27] <MonkeyDust> linocisco better ask in #ubuntu-offtopic
[19:28] <akik> linocisco: i started using wordpress.com for my blog
[19:28] <trisquel> motaka2: that shell doesn't see your internet
[19:29] <linocisco> akik, another better platform?
[19:29] <lotuspsychje> akik: please dont feed offtopic here
[19:29] <motaka2> trisquel: What sould I do ?
[19:29] <sburt> msg NickServ VERIFY REGISTER sburt jrnhgprudduymsg NickServ VERIFY REGISTER sburt jrnhgprudduymsg NickServ VERIFY REGISTER sburt jrnhgprudduymsg NickServ VERIFY REGISTER sburt jrnhgprudduymsg NickServ VERIFY REGISTER sburt jrnhgprudduyhello
[19:30] <motaka2> TJ-: http://paste.ubuntu.com/13547168/
[19:30] <trisquel> motaka2, no clue sorry
[19:31] <SchrodingersScat> !password sburt
[19:31] <trisquel> open a new shell?
[19:31] <trisquel> SchrodingersScat, nice nick :P
[19:32] <HeisenbergsDog> rrr
[19:33] <madmanwithabox> Hi, can anyone help me?
[19:33] <SchrodingersScat> !ask | madmanwithabox
[19:33] <madmanwithabox> I am looking for an alternative to glasswire, it's a bandwidth monitor for Windows only
[19:33] <madmanwithabox> sorry
[19:34] <madmanwithabox> !patience
[19:35] <MonkeyDust> madmanwithabox is this useful http://www.ubuntugeek.com/bandwidth-monitoring-tools-for-ubuntu-users.html
[19:36] <TJ-> motaka2: OK, that explains it. The X server is running but not logged in as the user, it should be showing the greeter login
[19:36] <sruli> what's the best tool to recover partition (i would prefer no liveCD, its not bootable partition)
[19:36] <Rafibd01717> how can I see which PPA I am using for a specific software?
[19:36] <Rafibd01717> any terminal command?
[19:36] <motaka2> TJ-: on ubuntu I just see a black page
[19:36] <EriC^^> Rafibd01717: apt-cache policy <package>
[19:36] <TJ-> motaka2: so, we need to focus on the Display Manager log-files got lightdm. "pastebinit <( ls -latr /var/log/lightdm/ )"
[19:36] <lotuspsychje> sruli: get data back?
[19:37] <motaka2> TJ-: http://paste.ubuntu.com/13547304/
[19:37] <lotuspsychje> hey EriC^^ :p
[19:37] <TJ-> motaka2: right, but it is *supposed* to be showing the greeter - because no user session processes are running. So now we know where to focus our investigation
[19:37] <EriC^^> hey lotuspsychje
[19:38] <TJ-> motaka2: "pastebinit <( sudo tail -n 1000 /var/log/lightdm/lightdm.log )"
[19:38] <sruli> lotuspsychje: i want to recover a luks partition, i mistakenly wrote to the wrong drive with dd, but cancelled after a second
[19:39] <madmanwithabox> MonkeyDust: Thanks for the reply. I found an app called iptraf, it looks great, but I have a eth0 connection. I can't see a eth0 interface
[19:39] <Rafibd01717> EriC^^, I just see this mongodb:
[19:39] <Rafibd01717> Installed: (none)
[19:39] <Rafibd01717> Candidate: 1:2.4.9-1ubuntu2
[19:39] <Rafibd01717> Version table:
[19:39] <Rafibd01717> 1:2.4.9-1ubuntu2 0
[19:39] <Rafibd01717> 500 http://bd.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ trusty/universe i386 Packages
[19:39] <MonkeyDust> Rafibd01717 next time, use pastebin
[19:39] <EriC^^> Rafibd01717: maybe you have the package name wrong?
[19:39] <motaka2> TJ-: putty crashed, I had to restart it, should I do anything else?
[19:40] <sruli> lotuspsychje: as its a luks drive data recovery wont bew poss, i need to recover full drive first
[19:40] <EriC^^> it says you dont have it installed
[19:40] <TJ-> motaka2: "pastebinit <( sudo tail -n 1000 /var/log/lightdm/lightdm.log )"
[19:40] <lotuspsychje> EriC^^: he installed it via git
[19:40] <ioria> madmanwithabox, did you start it with sudo ?
[19:41] <Rafibd01717> EriC^^, but surely something is there
[19:41] <motaka2> TJ-: http://paste.ubuntu.com/13547385/
[19:41] <madmanwithabox> ioria yes I did
[19:41] <ioria> madmanwithabox, all interfaces ?
[19:41] <EriC^^> Rafibd01717: how did you install it?
[19:41] <Rafibd01717> I see update command try to fetch some data for mongodb
[19:41] <madmanwithabox> ioria yes
[19:41] <Rafibd01717> as far as I can remember via git
[19:42] <ioria> madmanwithabox, at the end of the line , don't you see ethX ?
[19:42] <madmanwithabox> ioria nope
[19:42] <ioria> madmanwithabox, under iface
[19:42] <Rafibd01717> EriC^^, you can see this http://paste.ubuntu.com/13546921/
[19:43] <TJ-> motaka2: you don't know the password for the user?
[19:43] <motaka2> TJ-: I know, but those are created automatically
[19:43] <EriC^^> Rafibd01717: what are you trying to achieve?
[19:43] <TJ-> sruli: if you've over-written the luks header, the data is gone
[19:44] <madmanwithabox> ioria what? I have a menu which says: IP traffic monitor, general interface statistics, detailed interface statistics, statistical breakdown, LAN station monitor
[19:44] <TJ-> motaka2: the first user account created should be a member of the 'sudo' group
[19:44] <sruli> TJ-: are you sure its not possible to recover full partiton?
[19:44] <Rafibd01717> EriC^^, I want to completely remove MongoDB ppa
[19:44] <motaka2> TJ-: I think donkarlo is
[19:44] <madmanwithabox> ioria here's what it looks like if I choose IP traffic monitor http://postimg.org/image/k6xnv8rsz/
[19:44] <Rafibd01717> and then fresh install it from official repo
[19:44] <ioria> madmanwithabox, IP traffic monitor
[19:44] <EriC^^> !ppapurge Rafibd01717
[19:44] <TJ-> sruli: i don't know what you mean by "full partition" - a partition is just an entry in the Partition Table
[19:44] <EriC^^> !ppa-purge Rafibd01717
[19:44] <lotuspsychje> EriC^^: |
[19:44] <EriC^^> !ppapurge | Rafibd01717
[19:44] <motaka2> TJ-: but thos logins are done without asking me
[19:44] <TJ-> motaka2: the sudo password being requested is that user's own password
[19:45] <Rafibd01717> but which ppa?
[19:45] <Rafibd01717> I cant remember the ppa name
[19:45] <TJ-> motaka2: you mean donkarlo has auto-login set?
[19:45] <Rafibd01717> here is the problem EriC^^
[19:45] <TJ-> motaka2: "pastebinit <( groups )" please
[19:45] <motaka2> TJ-: no when I run what you gave me , it automaytically trys to login three times and then putty hangs
[19:46] <madmanwithabox> ioria yes, I just sent an image of what it looks like http://postimg.org/image/k6xnv8rsz/
[19:46] <motaka2> TJ-: http://paste.ubuntu.com/13547455/
[19:46] <TJ-> motaka2: oh! OK, do "sudo ls /" just to get the sudo credentials working first
[19:46] <ioria> madmanwithabox, ifconfig ?
[19:46] <TJ-> motaka2: then redo "pastebinit <( sudo tail -n 1000 /var/log/lightdm/lightdm.log )"
[19:47] <EriC^^> Rafibd01717: i think ppa-purge can take the link as the argument, it might work
[19:47] <motaka2> TJ-: http://paste.ubuntu.com/13547464/
[19:47] <TJ-> motaka2: 'sudo' credentials are usually cached for about 10 minutes incase you want to use it again, without needing to re-enter the password constantly
[19:47] <motaka2> TJ-: ah ok
[19:47] <Rafibd01717> so what would be the full command? EriC^^
[19:47] <madmanwithabox> ioria here: http://paste.ubuntu.com/13547475/
[19:47] <TJ-> motaka2: ahhh, that's better, a decent log file. I may be lost in it reading for a minute or two :)
[19:48] <the_count> Bashing-om: Seems as if rsync is taking longer than i should
[19:48] <Rafibd01717> sudo ppa-purge some_link?
[19:48] <madmanwithabox> ioria Oh ya, I have MAC filtering as well
[19:48] <motaka2> TJ-: thank you
[19:48] <EriC^^> other than that i dont know how you could find out, without a lot of work
[19:48] <Rafibd01717> but what link is it?
[19:48] <EriC^^> Rafibd01717: i dont know i dont have ppa-purge installed, type man ppa-purge in a terminal
[19:49] <lotuspsychje> Rafibd01717: read the sources link i gave you
[19:49] <lotuspsychje> Rafibd01717: its all explained step by step
[19:49] <Rafibd01717> No manual entry for ppa-purge EriC^^
[19:49] <Rafibd01717> so I need to install ppa-purge?
[19:49] <EriC^^> Rafibd01717: sudo apt-get install ppa-purge
[19:49] <TJ-> motaka2: line 32 (and others) "[+2804.25s] DEBUG: Failed to start greeter" looks to be the problem,
[19:50] <motaka2> TJ-: And?
[19:50] <TJ-> motaka2: let's try restarting the X server and DM: "sudo service restart lightdm" - if this works you should be able to see the GUI greeter once more
[19:51] <ioria> madmanwithabox, ufw active ?
[19:51] <madmanwithabox> ioria nope
[19:52] <motaka2> TJ-: donkarlo@mohammad-desktop:~$ sudo service restart lightdm
[19:52] <motaka2> restart: unrecognized service
[19:52] <TJ-> motaka2: my typo again! "sudo service lightdm restart"
[19:53] <motaka2> TJ-: donkarlo@mohammad-desktop:~$ sudo service lightdm restart
[19:53] <motaka2> lightdm stop/waiting
[19:53] <motaka2> lightdm start/running, process 3665
[19:53] <TJ-> motaka2: any sign of the display?
[19:53] <motaka2> TJ-: no
[19:54] <ImASpamBot> Hi
[19:54] <TJ-> motaka2: that is weird. "sudo service lightdm stop" then "pastebinit <( ps -efly )"
[19:54] <ioria> madmanwithabox, maybe the culprit if the mac filter, but can't help you on that, because i have never used it
[19:54] <Bashing-om> the_count: Lots of factors in the 'speed' . Where are you copying from and to and what means ? USB speeds are much slower USB2 as opposed to USB3 .. or maybe the bottleneck is the network if you are backing up off-premise .
[19:54] <motaka2> TJ-: ttp://paste.ubuntu.com/13547571/
[19:55] <TJ-> motaka2: I'm going to have to hadn you over to someone else now; I have to leave. The place to focus is on the /var/log/lightdm/ log-files, especially x-0.log and x-0-greeter.log
[19:55] <madmanwithabox> ioria, hmm, okay. thanks for the help anyway :)
[19:55] <motaka2> TJ-: dont go
[19:55] <ioria> madmanwithabox, good luck
[19:55] <TJ-> motaka2: there is no X server running which is good. Now do "sudo service lightdm start" and it should show the GU, if it doesn't, those logs *should* reveal a clue
[19:56] <madmanwithabox> ioria thanks
[19:56] <motaka2> TJ-: http://paste.ubuntu.com/13547571
[19:56] <ioria> madmanwithabox, no problem
[19:56] <lotuspsychje> madmanwithabox: ##networking might be able to help
[19:56] <the_count> Bashing-om: Well, I made a backup of My firefox directory ~300mb and finished in less than 5 seconds. It has been going from rsync for the last 10 minutes at least... Copying from my laptop to USB3 Portable Hard drive.. Makes my head spin
[19:56] <motaka2> TJ-: the black page again
[19:57] <madmanwithabox> lotuspsychje Okay, I'll join that right now and ask
[19:57] <lotuspsychje> motaka2: wich ubuntu version is this?
[19:57] <TJ-> motaka2: make sure another helper knows you're working over a remote SSH session, else they may make some incorrect assumptions
[19:57] <madmanwithabox> lotuspsychje Thanks everyone :)
[19:57] <motaka2> lotuspsychje: it is 12.04
[19:57] <TJ-> motaka2: right, so something is wrong with the drivers. I wonder if /var/log/kern.log might have some clue
[19:58] <lotuspsychje> motaka2: fully updated system?
[19:58] <motaka2> TJ-: so what do you suggest ?
[19:58] <motaka2> lotuspsychje: I updated it and restarted and I couldnt see the greeting page anymore
[19:59] <motaka2> lotuspsychje: no I have ssh access to it using putty on windows
[19:59] <lotuspsychje> motaka2: what graphics card does the system have
[19:59] <motaka2> lotuspsychje: I dont know, how can I check ?
[20:00] <Gallomimia> lspci
[20:00] <TJ-> lotuspsychje: the hard drive in this PC came from another PC, it did boot OK until a recent set of package upgrades. Now, after the initial GUI greeter display, after trying log-in the monitor goes black and remains that way, the /var/log/lightdm/ lightdm.log suggests the greeter fails after initially being shown. The user is NOT logged in, no user session is active, the X server remains running but lightdm
[20:00] <TJ-> itself has failed. Stopping the X server and restarting lightdm doesn't show the greeter GUI from then onwards
[20:00] <zykotick9> motaka2: "lspci | grep -i vga" might be more manageable.
[20:00] <lotuspsychje> TJ-: yeah saw the greeter huge delay
[20:01] <motaka2> zykotick9: lotuspsychje 07:00.0 VGA compatible controller: NVIDIA Corporation NV44 [GeForce 6200 TurboCache] (rev a1)
[20:01] <TJ-> motaka2: lotuspsychje lspci: http://paste.ubuntu.com/13544310/
[20:02] <zykotick9> motaka2: just curious, did you install the nvidia driver from nvidia.com?
[20:02] <TJ-> motaka2: lotuspsychje Xorg.0.log: http://paste.ubuntu.com/13546655/
[20:02] <TJ-> motaka2: lotuspsychje "ls -l /var/log/lightdm/ http://paste.ubuntu.com/13547304/
[20:02] <motaka2> zykotick9: no I didnt
[20:03] <lotuspsychje> TJ-: sounds like recent driver fail on his system?
[20:03] <zykotick9> motaka2: ok, that's good. i was just checking. best of luck.
[20:03] <TJ-> motaka2: lotuspsychje /var/log/lightdm/lightdm.log http://paste.ubuntu.com/13547464/
[20:03] <TJ-> lotuspsychje: yes... it's got nvidia-304
[20:03] <TJ-> motaka2: I have to go, I'm already an hour overdue! Good luck
[20:03] <the_count> Bashing-om: I think I have backups enough... I'm going to go ahead and install.
[20:04] <Bashing-om> the_count: :)
[20:04] <motaka2> TJ-: Thank you. you are very kind
[20:04] <motaka2> Can anyone help me?
[20:04] <the_count> Bashing-om: So... Thinking about last minute considerations now
[20:04] <jonasliljestrand> Im debugging tcpdump output and having trouble with only seeing "starting connection" flags. How should I debug why receiving server doesn't respond?
[20:05] <lotuspsychje> motaka2: try the recoverymode/fix broken packages
[20:05] <jonasliljestrand> this pastie shows the dump I'm having.. http://pastie.org/private/ckndrvjyxiern5wpi0qw1w
[20:05] <motaka2> lotuspsychje: how?
[20:05] <the_count> Bashing-om: How about swap space, shall I Delete the Ubuntu and swap partitions and have it sort it out...?
[20:05] <lotuspsychje> !recovery | motaka2
[20:05] <jonasliljestrand> and pls dont yell at me for the pf shitty firewall things.. :)
[20:05] <lotuspsychje> !language | jonasliljestrand
[20:06] <ioria> motaka2, does it work with nouveau ?
[20:06] <HeisenbergsDog> !lol | lotuspsychje
[20:07] <lotuspsychje> HeisenbergsDog: ?
[20:07] <HeisenbergsDog> never mind :P
[20:07] <zykotick9> lotuspsychje: i certainly don't see a problem with jonasliljestrand's !language... its a tcpdump...
[20:07] <motaka2> ioria: what is nouvou?
[20:08] <lotuspsychje> zykotick9: scroll to the right line mate, sh1tty firewall?
[20:08] <jonasliljestrand> Ty zykotick9, I was mainly making a joke about pasting openBSD code in a ubuntu channel :)
[20:09] <ioria> motaka2, nvidia cards can use their proprietary divers or the opensource delivered by ubuntu, nouveau in this case
[20:09] <zykotick9> lotuspsychje: ahh, sorry. i didn't actually go to the paste
[20:09] <motaka2> ioria: I dont know
[20:09] <the_count> Bashing-om: Ok, see ya
[20:09] <Bashing-om> the_count: Are you making this more difficult than it is ? What options are you using to install release 15.10 ?
[20:10] <ioria> motaka2, sudo lshw -c video
[20:10] <Gallomimia> motaka2: i also thought you were having an issue because of new drivers. i have had similar issues. i'll let you know if there's something i think of, but for now i'm going to just watch what others suggest to you
[20:14] <motaka2> ioria: http://paste.ubuntu.com/13547891/
[20:15] <motaka2> Gallomimia: thx
[20:15] <ioria> motaka2, and your original issue was ? you cannot login ?
[20:15] <motaka2> ioria: I cant see the greeter page wher I can login
[20:15] <lotuspsychje> ioria: his greeter fails, after updating 12.04
[20:16] <ioria> motaka2, you set autologin ?
[20:16] <Gallomimia> what about if you press ctrl-alt-F1
[20:16] <lotuspsychje> motaka2: have you tryed loading a previous kernel?
[20:16] <motaka2> lotuspsychje: how?
[20:16] <lotuspsychje> motaka2: from grub
[20:16] <HeisenbergsDog> tried. sorry.
[20:17] <ioria> motaka2, well, i would start purging nvidia
[20:17] <motaka2> ioria: how?
[20:17] <ioria> motaka2, can you open a console on the running system ?
[20:17] <ioria> motaka2, ctrl +alt +f1 (or f2)
[20:17] <motaka2> ioria: yes using text mode in the grub
[20:18] <ioria> motaka2, sudo apt-get purge nvidia*
[20:18] <motaka2> ioria: I can run commands I think on ubuntu system
[20:18] <motaka2> ioria: I think that is wrong
[20:19] <ioria> motaka2, what you mean ?
[20:19] <motaka2> ioria: sorry, wasnt for you
[20:19] <motaka2> I ran that it seems it is removing
[20:19] <ioria> motaka2, reboot then
[20:20] <motaka2> ioria: how by pressing the reset button
[20:20] <motaka2> ?
[20:20] <ioria> motaka2, sudo reboot
[20:20] <Gallomimia> or sudo shutdown -r now
[20:20] <Gallomimia> (sometimes the reboot program don't work for me)
[20:21] <motaka2> ioria: again it is the same
[20:22] <motaka2> ioria: I ended to a black page
[20:22] <ioria> motaka2, you are in text mode ?
[20:22] <motaka2> ioria: no if I was I would see the texts asking me to login
[20:23] <pinuccio> ciao
[20:23] <pinuccio> !list
[20:23] <lotuspsychje> ioria: his lightdm shows a 2500sec delay in conf
[20:23] <ioria> lotuspsychje, i see
[20:23] <ioria> lotuspsychje, boot in text mode then
[20:23] <motaka2> ioria: the difference this time is each 10 seconds it show some text quickly and then it goes dark
[20:24] <ioria> motaka2, boot in text mode
[20:24] <lotuspsychje> motaka2: try booting a previous kernel ==>grub
[20:25] <Kevin-_-> Hi, I recently got the MSI GS Series GS60 Ghost Pro 4K-053 laptop. I was wondering if anyone has had any problems installing ubuntu before I try to install it. There isn't any linux drivers on msi's page.
[20:25] <motaka2> ioria: I am in text mode
[20:25] <motaka2> lotuspsychje: how?
[20:25] <lotuspsychje> Kevin-_-: did you check additional drivers section?
[20:26] <ioria> motaka2, sudo lightdm restart ?
[20:26] <ioria> motaka2, sudo service lightdm restart ?
[20:26] <lotuspsychje> ioria: TJ already tested that, back to black screen
[20:26] <LogicalDash> I got a Dell Inspiron 15 3000 series on the understanding it was officially supported by Ubuntu. I installed it all right, but when I log in the mouse goes invisible. I can still click things, kind of, but I can't tell where I'm about to click.
[20:26] <ioria> lotuspsychje, ok
[20:27] <Kevin-_-> lotuspsychje: I did a month ago, looking to find that again.
[20:27] <lotuspsychje> LogicalDash: might be an acpi issue, wich ubuntu version?
[20:27] <LogicalDash> lotuspsychje: 15.10
[20:27] <lotuspsychje> LogicalDash: try 14.04.3 lts
[20:27] <ioria> motaka2, cat /etc/issue
[20:28] <motaka2> ioria: but I restarted the lightweightdm you mean do that from putty ?
[20:28] <LogicalDash> ok, now I can *see* the mouse but not *move* it
[20:28] <ioria> motaka2, putty ? are you ssh 'ing ?
[20:28] <lotuspsychje> LogicalDash: usb keyboard and mouse support enabled in bios?
[20:29] <LogicalDash> lotuspsychje: checking
[20:29] <motaka2> ioria: not with commands you gave me
[20:29] <LogicalDash> lotuspsychje: should they be?
[20:29] <motaka2> ioria: but I have ssh access too
[20:29] <ioria> motaka2, can't you access directly your box ?
[20:29] <lotuspsychje> LogicalDash: in bios you can mostly choose bios/Os
[20:29] <LogicalDash> lotuspsychje: you didn't answer my question
[20:30] <motaka2> ioria: Yes in text mode yes
[20:30] <motaka2> what is box?
[20:30] <motaka2> ioria: donkarlo@mohammad-desktop:~$ cat /etc/issue
[20:30] <motaka2> Ubuntu 12.04.5 LTS \n \l
[20:30] <motaka2> the above is done in ssh
[20:31] <ioria> motaka2, try again sudo service lightdm restart
[20:31] <lotuspsychje> LogicalDash: try bios
[20:31] <motaka2> ioria: from putty ?
[20:31] <ioria> motaka2, no, directly
[20:32] <motaka2> ioria: then I have to restart and then text mode wait
[20:32] <ioria> motaka2, ok
[20:33] <motaka2> ioria: TJ- told me not to purge nvidia
[20:33] <ioria> motaka2, why ?
[20:33] <motaka2> ioria: Are you sure it was a right thing to do ?
[20:33] <askme> my gosh i feel like an idiot listening to this. im 40 and have 2 computer degrees and havent messed with linux seriously since they got a gui
[20:33] <motaka2> ioria: he said things might got worse
[20:33] <askme> damn it... is there hope?
[20:34] <Kevin-_-> lotuspsychje: so I'm not seeing the additional drivers for this laptop. I'm looking on here: http://us.msi.com/product/notebook/support/GS60-Ghost-Pro-4K-6th-Gen-GTX-970M.html#down-help-desk
[20:34] <ioria> motaka2, i did a lot of tiems on my pc : -)
[20:34] <ioria> *times
[20:35] <motaka2> ioria: lightdm restarted
[20:35] <motaka2> again the same issue
[20:35] <ioria> motaka2, again sudo lshw -c video
[20:36] <motaka2> ioria: from putty ?
[20:36] <TJ-> ioria: motaka2 I said that at the start before we knew what might be wrong, didn't want to do random things
[20:36] <lotuspsychje> Kevin-_-: wich ubuntu version is this?
[20:36] <cannon2> HexChat: 2.10.2 ** OS: Linux 3.16.0-38-generic x86_64 ** Distro: LinuxMintD=LinuxMint ** CPU: 4 x Intel(R) Core(TM) i5-3230M CPU @ 2.60GHz (GenuineIntel) @ 3.00GHz ** RAM: Physical: 3.7GiB, 82.5% free ** Disk: Total: 183.2GiB, 84.8% free ** VGA: Intel Corporation 3rd Gen Core processor Graphics Controller ** Sound: HDA-Intel - HDA Intel PCH ** Ethernet: Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd. CIe Gigabit
[20:36] <cannon2> Ethernet ** Uptime: 12h 54m 36s **
[20:36] <ioria> motaka2, why are you sing putty ?
[20:36] <ioria> *using
[20:36] <lotuspsychje> !mint | cannon2
[20:36] <TJ-> ioria: the Ubuntu PC goes to a black screen after greeter fails
[20:36] <motaka2> ioria: What should I use?
[20:37] <ioria> TJ- ah, ok
[20:37] <lotuspsychje> TJ-: did you try previous kernel with him?
[20:37] <Kevin-_-> lotuspsychje: I was thinking 15.10
[20:37] <TJ-> ioria: the SSH session allows us to see what is going on when the GPU output has failed. 'black-screen' is permanent after greeter fails
[20:37] <lotuspsychje> Kevin-_-: normally 970 gtx should give you additional drivers
[20:38] <TJ-> lotuspsychje: No, it took a long time to get the remote SSH configured. Earlier we were checking the file-system was okay via recovery with no network.
[20:38] <lotuspsychje> Kevin-_-: did you install with internet enabled?
[20:38] <motaka2> TJ-: after purging the nvidia sometimes it blinks with some text in it
[20:38] <ioria> motaka2, ok, you did an upgrade to 12.04 ?
[20:38] <motaka2> ioria: I tried
[20:38] <ioria> motaka2, and failed ?
[20:39] <motaka2> ioria: I think so
[20:39] <ioria> motaka2, from what version ?
[20:39] <motaka2> ioria: I have a live 14.04 DVD, would that help ?
[20:39] <ioria> motaka2, absolutly
[20:39] <motaka2> ioria: from 12.04 to 14.04
[20:39] <TJ-> ioria: the hard disk came from a different PC with slightly different hardware, but I couldn't find any log signs of difficulties due to that. The original PC had nvidia fake-raid, and although this PC doesn't the system sees and uses the fake-RAID metadata to boot from correctly.
[20:40] <TJ-> OK, I have to leave now. Good luck.
[20:40] <Kevin-_-> lotuspsychje: I haven't installed yet, was just curious if there are any potential problems that I'll run into. i.e. Killer lan problems.
[20:40] <ioria> TJ- sounds very complicated then ....
[20:40] <Kevin-_-> don't want to get all the way through and then roll back to windows
[20:41] <lotuspsychje> Kevin-_-: ubuntu runs on most machines mate, some might need bit solving
[20:41] <Kevin-_-> thanks
[20:41] <ioria> motaka2, again sudo lshw -c video , please
[20:41] <lotuspsychje> Kevin-_-: if you run into issues, come back to us ok
[20:42] <ruid> anyone know how to prevent ubuntu server from sleeping....
[20:42] <ikonia> it won't sleep by default
[20:42] <ruid> running it on a laptop, so maybe theres something with that...
[20:42] <k1l> ruid: so you installed a desktop?
[20:42] <Kevin-_-_> lotuspsychje: will do. Thanks again
[20:43] <Kevin-_-_> ugh, this hotel wifi keeps booting me off
[20:43] <motaka2> ioria: using putty?
[20:43] <ioria> motaka2, as you wish
[20:44] <ioria> motaka2, and uname -r
[20:46] <ruid> k1l, no
[20:46] <motaka2> ioria: http://paste.ubuntu.com/13548364/
[20:46] <ruid> i installed ubuntu server on a laptop
[20:46] <motaka2> ioria:
[20:46] <motaka2> donkarlo@mohammad-desktop:~$ uname -r
[20:46] <motaka2> 3.2.0-94-generic-pae
[20:46] <ioria> motaka2, oh
[20:46] <k1l> ruid: and you installed gnome or unity or kde or such?
[20:46] <ioria> motaka2, wrong kernel i think...
[20:47] <k1l> motaka2: thats a really old kernel
[20:47] <ioria> !info linux-generic | motaka2
[20:47] <motaka2> ioria: k1l What should I do ?
[20:47] <k1l> motaka2: is this a 12.04?
[20:47] <motaka2> k1l: yes
[20:47] <motaka2> ioria: What should I do ?
[20:48] <ruid> k1l no
[20:48] <ioria> motaka2, wait... you said you did an upgrade to 14.04 ? or not ?
[20:48] <lotuspsychje> ioria: no he updated to latest 12.04
[20:48] <k1l> motaka2: you can get the 14.04 kernel when using the enablement stack
[20:48] <lotuspsychje> after update greeter fails
[20:48] <ioria> lotuspsychje, ok
[20:49] <motaka2> ioria: I tried but it failed. but still I could see and use my compuer. then to use xmind seven it suggested me to upgrade some packages and then after restart it ended to a black screen
[20:49] <k1l> ruid: so cli only?
[20:49] <motaka2> k1l: what do you suggest ?
[20:50] <ruid> k1l, yes
[20:50] <k1l> ruid: because if you would have installed a desktop that would have added some standby and suspend things
[20:50] <ioria> motaka2, from 12.04 to 14.04 . that is correct ?
[20:50] <bumblefuzz> how do I change my middle click button?
[20:51] <motaka2> ioria: Yes but it wasnt done
[20:51] <MonkeyDust> motaka2 what's the output of cat /etc/issue
[20:51] <wizzkidd> hi i recently performed a reinstallation of ubuntu 15.10 over the top of my current 15.10 install which I was having problems with. I'm just reinstalling some of the programs I had previously, however I think my previous OS had a newer kernel, uname -r shows me "4.2.0-040200-generic" but I think when I compile anything, it is using the currently installed kernel which is "4.2.0-18-generic". Can anyone assist me out of this sticky
[20:51] <ioria> motaka2, ok, did you use the GUI or do.-release-upgrade ?
[20:52] <motaka2> ioria: I tried do release upgrade in those days, but not today
[20:52] <ioria> motaka2, ok, and cat /etc/issue is 12.04 ? right ?
[20:53] <motaka2> ioria: I dont know
[20:53] <Ducky^> does anyone know if it's possible to tell abcde to use cd text to name the files/tag them instead of cddb?
[20:53] <ioria> motaka2, cat /etc/issue , please
[20:53] <motaka2> ioria: donkarlo@mohammad-desktop:~$ cat /etc/issue
[20:53] <motaka2> Ubuntu 12.04.5 LTS \n \l
[20:54] <ioria> motaka2, right.... maybe you need to install the new kernel
[20:54] <sruli> i installed ubuntu and debian on separate luks partitions, when i run update-grub in ubuntu it does not see the debian partition, why not?
[20:54] <motaka2> ioria: how?
[20:54] <ioria> motaka2, try sudo apt-get install linux-generic
[20:54] <motaka2> ioria: on putty ?
[20:55] <motaka2> ioria: running very slow
[20:55] <ioria> motaka2, try on your installed system
[20:56] <motaka2> ioria: then restart and text mode
[20:56] <ioria> motaka2, yes, but i'm afraid it will reinstall the 3.2
[20:58] <motaka2> ioria: so what should I do ?
[20:58] <ioria> motaka2, try it
[20:59] <ioria> motaka2, cat /etc/apt/sources.list
[20:59] <Bashing-om> !info linux-image | wizzkidd
[20:59] <Bashing-om> !info linux-image-generic | wizzkidd
[20:59] <motaka2> ioria: let me start putty lots of data
[21:00] <VFDPrim> afternoon all
[21:00] <lotuspsychje> VFDPrim: welcome
[21:00] <Bashing-om> wizzkidd: Have you updated the system since the new (re-)install ? ' sudo apt update ; sudo apt full-upgrade ' .
[21:01] <VFDPrim> i have a HP printer that takes comands prints a test page perfect but when i tell it to print a word doc it spits out a blank page ... any ideas
[21:01] <zetheroo> I am back on the trail of troubleshooting why my Wifi speeds are so low - about 1 - 2 MB/s
[21:01] <kornyon1> Anyone available to help me trouble shoot? I'm getting an error while booting, ubuntu is trying to mount the extended partition on 2 drives that contain a swap partition, I've never had this before
[21:01] <wizzkidd> Bashing-om: just a dist-upgrade
[21:01] <lotuspsychje> VFDPrim: did you install hplip tools?
[21:01] <lotuspsychje> zetheroo: wifi chipset and ubuntu version?
[21:01] <zetheroo> I followed this (http://bernaerts.dyndns.org/linux/74-ubuntu/322-ubuntu-trusty-intel-centrino-6235-slow-freeze) and my wifi speed went from 1MB/s to 2MB/s
[21:02] <wizzkidd> Bashing-om: just tried apt full-upgrade and i have 0 to upgrade, 0 to install, 0 to remove
[21:02] <VFDPrim> i did before and it actually was worse then when i dont have it (have two of same printers on two ubuntu comps one had hplip and does not the one that does not works perfect
[21:02] <motaka2> ioria: http://paste.ubuntu.com/13548633/
[21:02] <zetheroo> lotuspsychje: Centrino 6205 - Ubuntu 14.04
[21:02] <ioria> motaka2, ok, then
[21:03] <lotuspsychje> zetheroo: updated to latest 14.04.3?
[21:03] <zetheroo> lotuspsychje: sorry, 15.04
[21:03] <ioria> motaka2, sudo apt-get install linux-generic
[21:03] <zetheroo> fully updated
[21:03] <lotuspsychje> zetheroo: try lts for more stable mate
[21:04] <lotuspsychje> zetheroo: try a 14.04.3 liveusb, and test the wifi speeds there
[21:04] <motaka2> ioria: that takes long time
[21:04] <ioria> motaka2, i'm sorry about that ...
[21:04] <kornyon1> Any takers?
[21:04] <lotuspsychje> VFDPrim: try the hplip tools anyway and try a testpage from the control center
[21:04] <motaka2> ioria: ok running
[21:04] <zetheroo> lotuspsychje: I upgraded thinking it would solve the issue :)
[21:05] <lotuspsychje> kornyon1: how did you create partitions?
[21:05] <ioria> motaka2, what i see is a failed trusty installation, with still the old kernel of pangoline
[21:05] <VFDPrim> i did the test page from the controle center withought hplip and worked PERFECT
[21:05] <Bashing-om> wizzkidd: K; well ! What is installed for kernels ' dpkg -l | grep linux- ' ? in a pastebin .
[21:05] <kornyon1> I didn't that the thing
[21:05] <VFDPrim> I did everything i could with hplip and it just kept messing up and would not print at all when told to
[21:06] <kornyon1> This *was* a running box, I just added a hard drive, had not done anything to it
[21:06] <ioria> motaka2, so, if you do a release-upgrade to trusty you should have at least a 3.16.0-xx-generic
[21:06] <motaka2> ioria: i dont think that would fix the issue, but I let that continue
[21:06] <lotuspsychje> VFDPrim: any documents blocked in your printer list?
[21:06] <VFDPrim> nope it was cleared
[21:06] <kornyon1> Even the swap is loaded, whats erroring is its like its trying ot mount /dev/sda2
[21:06] <ioria> motaka2, the upgrade failed to update the kernel, that's for sure ....
[21:06] <zetheroo> whats the relevance of the number 8 in "11n_disable=8"?
[21:07] <kornyon1> but the swap on sda5 is mount and functioning
[21:07] <kornyon1> mounted*
[21:07] <motaka2> ioria: ok it is 14 percent so I go out for dinner
[21:07] <ioria> motaka2, me tto, sorry :þ
[21:07] <ioria> *too
[21:07] <ioria> motaka2, good luck, mate
[21:07] <Bashing-om> kornyon1: Show the channel what dstab is telling the system to mount ' cat /etc/fstab ' into a pastebin . Let's see what tale is told .
[21:08] <VFDPrim> with hplip it just kept holding them and would not release them EVER so i removed it from the comp and deleated the printer reloaded the printer it found proper hard ware, did a test page worked perfect then tried to print a sentince from libra office and it acted like it was gunna print then tossed out an empty page oddest thing ever with this printer
[21:08] <lotuspsychje> VFDPrim: can this printer copy without pc?
[21:08] <VFDPrim> yes coppies perfect also
[21:08] <wizzkidd> Bashing-om: http://pastebin.com/uMvL76Qy
[21:08] <VFDPrim> tested the coppie with the printed test page lol
[21:09] <Bashing-om> wizzkidd: Look'n at your http://pastebin.com/uMvL76Qy .
[21:09] <motaka2> ioria: Will you be here in 15 mins?
[21:09] <OerHeks> VFDPrim, see the settings if 300 dpi or 600 dpi makes a difference, 1200 sometimes does not work.
[21:09] <lotuspsychje> VFDPrim: unplug usb and tail -f /var/log/syslog and plugin printer back to see errors
[21:09] <OerHeks> testpage is in 300 dpi i think.
[21:09] <kornyon1> Bashing-om: I have a large fstab, is that ok?
[21:09] <ioria> motaka2, no mate... we'll see tomorrow, :þ
[21:09] <lotuspsychje> !paste | kornyon1
[21:09] <VFDPrim> where do i chainge the dpi
[21:09] <kornyon1> ok pastebin duh
[21:09] <motaka2> ioria: ok thanks for your help
[21:10] <VFDPrim> sadly not on that computer at the moment
[21:10] <ioria> motaka2, you're welcome
[21:10] <kornyon1> http://paste.ubuntu.com/13548764/
[21:11] <motaka2> iooner-: it is 63 percent
[21:12] <kornyon1> The error I'm getting is related to sda2 which I'm not even trying to mount
[21:12] <kornyon1> http://paste.ubuntu.com/13548778/
[21:12] <VFDPrim> in printer properties where is the dpi settings found at
[21:12] <Bashing-om> wizzkidd: Appears to me that you have the latest version of the kernel imstalled .
[21:13] <Bashing-om> kornyon1: Look'n at your http://paste.ubuntu.com/13548764/ .
[21:14] <kornyon1> I'm sure there are some suboptimal settings, but I've never had this error before
[21:15] <kornyon1> I should clarifiy, the machine DOES boot, just the gui is not booting due to an error
[21:15] <wizzkidd> Bashing-om: I believe you are correct, however when I type uname -r it shows up as: 4.2.0-040200-generic (which is different from the dpkg - l output)
[21:17] <Bashing-om> kornyon1: Let us compare UUIDs ' sudo blkid ; mount ' to what is in the fstab file.. see what is and what is to be mounted .
[21:18] <Bashing-om> wizzkidd: Ouch .. Now that is beyond my skill level to know what is being parsed to get that " 4.2.0-040200-generic " output .
[21:18] <kornyon1> Bashing-om: the uuids are correct hold on http://paste.ubuntu.com/13548865/
[21:19] <kornyon1> I didn't touch the fstab file when this error happened, what I am wondering is if this is a silent error that I didn't see before, I also just install a nvidia card, let me poke around a bit
[21:19] <TJ-> Bashing-om: wizzkidd that looks like a kernel PPA mainline build with the 040200 in the version
[21:19] <TJ-> Bashing-om: wizzkidd http://kernel.ubuntu.com/~kernel-ppa/mainline/v4.2-wily/
[21:20] <VFDPrim> hmm cant find where the dpi settings for the printer are
[21:20] <kornyon1> I did install the nvidia current drivers but I wonder
[21:21] <lotuspsychje> VFDPrim: try printer settings, hplip tools
[21:21] <Bashing-om> TJ-: wizzkidd :: No beating that voice of experience .
[21:21] <VFDPrim> oh ok so i will have to go back to hplip
[21:21] <Bashing-om> kornyon1: : Comparing, gimme a bit .
[21:22] <VFDPrim> not sure why this would work fine on my computer with out the hplip but not on the other one
[21:23] <lotuspsychje> VFDPrim: both same ubuntu version?
[21:23] <VFDPrim> yup
[21:23] <wizzkidd> Bashing-om: thanks for your assistance
[21:24] <MrSassyBritches> Hello
[21:24] <wizzkidd> TJ-: what do you suggest I do? I've just downloaded the http://kernel.ubuntu.com/~kernel-ppa/mainline/v4.2-wily/ image and headers deb files for my arch
[21:24] <motaka2> cant anyone help me?
[21:24] <wizzkidd> TJ-: should i rebuild my kernel, and then recompile my program against it then?
[21:25] <lotuspsychje> motaka2: install 14.04.3 on your system and make it easy for yourself
[21:25] <TJ-> wizzkidd: what is the problem exactly; I've read back but its not clear to me.
[21:25] <kornyon1> the error I'm getting is sda2 and sde2 unable to read superblock
[21:25] <VFDPrim> lotuspsychje: yup the same version of ubuntu
[21:26] <lotuspsychje> TJ-: he had 15.10 and have issues, then installed another 15.10 over his previous
[21:26] <TJ-> motaka2: what is happening now? before I went for dinner I noticed ioria discovered the system was in a partial upgrade state from 12.04 to 14.04
[21:26] <lotuspsychje> VFDPrim: smells like one printer connected and the other not?
[21:26] <VFDPrim> if it was not connected then i would not get a test print
[21:27] <motaka2> I ran the last command he told me but still the same
[21:27] <motaka2> lotuspsychje: If I upgrade would I lose my data?
[21:27] <TJ-> motaka2: If I'd have know that I'd have suggested completing the upgrade, since it will have caused the system to have a mix of incompatible packages which likely would lead to the strange symptoms on that system.
[21:27] <TJ-> motaka2: what was the last command you executed?
[21:28] <TJ-> wizzkidd: Do you want to continue with the kernel PPA kernel, or just use the standard archive version?
[21:29] <lotuspsychje> motaka2: on upgrades you can save your /home
[21:29] <motaka2> TJ-: sudo apt-get install linux-generic
[21:29] <TJ-> motaka2: OK, and if I read the previous messages correctly the system's /etc/apt/sources.list is pointing to the trusty (14.04) archives, not precise (12.04)
[21:30] <wizzkidd> TJ-: I had the "4.2.0-040200-generic" kernel previously installed. I performed an over-the-top reinstallation of Ubuntu 15.10 and it seems to have installed/overwritten the existing with the "4.2.0-18" kernel. Some of my previous programs were compiled against "4.2.0-040200-generic". I've tried to recompile the program, but it is now compiling against "4.2.0-18" and fails to work.
[21:30] <mikaandre> hello
[21:30] <Grimm_> please how can the home folder be saved during an upgrade?
[21:30] <TJ-> wizzkidd: compiled against the kernel? you mean out-of-tree kernel modules?
[21:30] <ruid> k1l, turns out this is the solution: http://askubuntu.com/questions/141866/keep-ubuntu-server-running-on-a-laptop-with-the-lid-closed
[21:31] <k1l> ruid: ah, you didnt say you were closing the lid
[21:31] <motaka2> TJ-: What do you suggest ?
[21:31] <wizzkidd> TJ-: excuse my terminology, im trying to make sense of what I'm saying myself. I'm not sure how to correctly articulate what I am saying.
[21:31] <ruid> k1l, what was interesting is that the suspend or hibernate (not sure which it was doing) would happen a while after I close the lid
[21:31] <TJ-> wizzkidd: the reason the system is booting with that PPA kernel is simply its alphabetical version naming causes update-grub to sort it first. You can remove that kernel's files from /boot/ and redo the GRUB config and reboot and you'll be on the regular 15.10 kernel
[21:32] <lotuspsychje> Grimm_: setup asks you to spare the /home
[21:32] <TJ-> wizzkidd: I get what you're saying, and your terminology is fine, I'm just trying to understand precisely what it is you're building
[21:33] <Grimm_> would I need a flash drive to copy the docs in the /home dir?
[21:33] <wizzkidd> TJ-: which is the newer kernel "4.2.0-18" or "4.2.0-040200-generic" ?
[21:33] <Bashing-om> kornyon1: So far " 6207faf9-dc89-4e5c-9d1a-86b05befa6d4 ' in fstab // not mounted .
[21:33] <DarwinSurvivor> Grimm_: No, if you select the option during the install to save /home, it the installer simply doesn't remove it (leaving the files right where they are)
[21:34] <TJ-> wizzkidd: the one in the archives
[21:34] <wizzkidd> TJ-: erm, the archives being?
[21:34] <DarwinSurvivor> Grimm_: think of "save" as "preserve" not "back-up", though a back-up is never a bad idea
[21:34] <TJ-> wizzkidd: "ls -latr /boot/*040200*" should show you the vmlinuz, initrd.img, config and other related files for that version
[21:35] <lotuspsychje> DarwinSurvivor: +1
[21:35] <TJ-> wizzkidd: The Ubuntu repository archive for 15.10
[21:35] <TJ-> wizzkidd: the one used by 'apt'
[21:35] <wizzkidd> TJ-: oh ok
[21:35] <lotuspsychje> ruid: we also have an #ubuntu-server channel for your needs
[21:35] <ruid> lotuspsychje, ah... good to know
[21:36] <Grimm_> ok
[21:36] <kornyon1> Bashing-om: I belive thats the new drive, seagate9
[21:36] <VFDPrim> thanks guys for the help with the printer i will try unplug and repluging it in along with a few other things then probably have to try the HPlip yet again even though i HATE that program i might not have a choice with this other computer not sure why it wouldent work when everything is the same on both comps but oh well grandma needs her printer lol
[21:37] <lotuspsychje> VFDPrim: good luck
[21:37] <VFDPrim> thanks
[21:37] <lotuspsychje> VFDPrim: come back to tell us what the issue was
[21:37] <TJ-> motaka2: It seems the do-release-upgrade process aborted at some point, leaving the system with some 12.04 files and some 14.04 files. To stand a chance of recovering that process needs to complete. It *might* continue if you do "sudo apt-get dist-upgrade" since that should fetch all newer packages
[21:37] <wizzkidd> TJ-: judging by the date/time stamp, the 4.2.0-040200-generic is October and 4.2.0-18-generic is November
[21:38] <VFDPrim> Lotuspsychje: will do
[21:38] <TJ-> motaka2: but before you do that, back-up any personal files and data you need before you start, because the state of the PC might not be recoverable
[21:38] <wizzkidd> TJ-: is it safe to rm the older kernel from /boot/ ?
[21:38] <VFDPrim> also looking at doing a full computere upgrade soon so that should be interesting lol
[21:38] <lotuspsychje> VFDPrim: clean install lts for less problems :p
[21:38] <TJ-> wizzkidd: right. Personally I'd delete those PPA files with "rm /boot/*040200*" (I leave you to prefix that with 'sudo') and then do "sudo update-grub" and reboot
[21:39] <VFDPrim> yes however moving everything over is going to be the issue lol
[21:39] <lotuspsychje> VFDPrim: data or programs?
[21:40] <wizzkidd> TJ-: thanks :D
[21:40] <VFDPrim> well on new instull i will have to figure out all programs i use then tranfer all the datta such as vids pictures and what not over
[21:41] <lotuspsychje> !info aptoncd | VFDPrim to backup programs
[21:41] <VFDPrim> yup did not understand any of that Ubuttu: lol
[21:42] <lotuspsychje> VFDPrim: you can use this program to back your favorite packages to a new system
[21:43] <VFDPrim> oh ok hmmm will have to check that out
[21:43] <VFDPrim> how do i find that program
[21:43] <lotuspsychje> VFDPrim: open terminal: sudo apt-get install aptoncd
[21:43] <mystupidnick> since ubuntu now uses systemd, is it safe to remove upstart?
[21:44] <lotuspsychje> mystupidnick: better try another ubuntu version
[21:44] <VFDPrim> thanks Lotus
[21:44] <mystupidnick> lotuspsychje: hu?
[21:44] <lotuspsychje> mystupidnick: wich ubuntu version are you on
[21:45] <mystupidnick> lotuspsychje: 15.10
[21:45] <lotuspsychje> mystupidnick: 15.10 uses systemd..
[21:45] <mystupidnick> so?
[21:46] <lotuspsychje> mystupidnick: where do you want remove upstart then?
[21:46] <mystupidnick> from my computer
[21:46] <lotuspsychje> mystupidnick: wich one
[21:47] <mystupidnick> sorry, your questions make no sense
[21:47] <lotuspsychje> mystupidnick: 15.10 doenst use upstart..what are you trying to do?
[21:48] <mystupidnick> lotuspsychje: i told you already
[21:50] <VFDPrim> if i use startup disc creator on this machine will it coppie all programs on this machine and put it onto the new one?
[21:50] <lotuspsychje> VFDPrim: no
[21:50] <lotuspsychje> VFDPrim: start disc creator only makes an ubuntu seup for you
[21:51] <lotuspsychje> setup
[21:51] <VFDPrim> oh ok
[21:51] <lotuspsychje> VFDPrim: adding packages afterwards is for the user
[21:51] <lotuspsychje> VFDPrim: and aptoncd can help you there
[21:51] <VFDPrim> so what is that prgram exactly for that i just added
[21:52] <lotuspsychje> VFDPrim: to backup your existing programs, to install on the new system
[21:52] <VFDPrim> and how do i open the damn thing lol it wont come up in my computer search
[21:52] <VFDPrim> oh ok so it will do what i wanted startupdisc creator to do
[21:53] <lotuspsychje> VFDPrim: ah you thought startup disc creator was for creating backups
[21:53] <lotuspsychje> !backup | VFDPrim
[21:54] <VFDPrim> oh no just was wondering if it did all those other extra programs been a long long time since i used the startup disk creator lol
[21:55] <wizzkidd> TJ-: looking good, now my machine boots up with the only and current kernel. I've deleted the kernel headers belonging to *040200* also. I've just started a configure/make/make install on a program, and it's looking much better now as I can see it address the current kernel. Fingers crossed.
[21:55] <Bashing-om> kornyon1: 16 entries on the fstab file, 16 devices noted .. but " 6207faf9-dc89-4e5c-9d1a-86b05befa6d4 " from the fstab file IS NOT one of them . Ya got a cross reference in error here somewhere .
[21:58] <TJ-> wizzkidd: good, that should be all you need
[22:00] <motaka2> TJ-: Sorry I was out for dinner
[22:00] <OxJG> thanks
[22:00] <motaka2> TJ-: What do you suggestme to do ?
[22:00] <OxJG> first time here
[22:01] <lotuspsychje> OxJG: you joined an ubuntu support channel
[22:02] <OxJG> woops
[22:02] <OxJG> well, learning
[22:02] <Guest86413> Hi!
[22:03] <motaka2> TJ-: are you there?
[22:03] <Guest86413> Yup
[22:04] <Bashing-om> kornyon1: OK " 5d8826dc-a1e1-4990-a2be-00676e48c7ab -> ../../sde1 " not in the fstab file :) .
[22:05] <kornyon1> Bashing-om: yeah I'm lookign right now
[22:05] <kornyon1> something's gone goofy
[22:08] <kornyon1> Bashing-om: yep I concur, looks like I was trying to mount the swap file lol
[22:09] <Bashing-om> kornyon1: Uh huh .. K ; I had not got to that point of thin'n .. glad ya got it sorted .
[22:09] <kornyon1> but I don't think thats the root of my problems
[22:09] <kornyon1> I think this has been a silent error, I'm just seeing it because i install a nvidia card and it won't load the desktop lol
[22:10] <Bashing-om> kornyon1: OK, I keep digg'n see what I can find .
[22:10] <eden> hello
[22:11] <Guest20052> i need to fix bluetooth issue
[22:11] <Guest20052> change nickname
[22:12] <m1dnight_> I think I have succeeded in creating a new raid1 array from /dev/sdc1 and /dev/sdd1 but every tutorial I read says I need to "assemble the disks" but this shows me an error: mdadm: /dev/sdc1 is busy - skipping \n mdadm: cannot open device /dec/sdd1: No such file or directory \n mdadm: /dec/sdd1 has no superblock - assembly aborted
[22:12] <motaka2> TJ-: ?
[22:15] <eden_> hello
[22:15] <eden_> im lookin blutooth linux guru
[22:15] <kage_> Hello.
[22:15] <kage_> That wouldn't be me.
[22:16] <eden_> i cant connect my device
[22:16] <eden_> bluetoothd[571]: send: Bad file descriptor (9)
[22:16] <eden_> Nov 28 23:06:22 eden-linux bluetoothd[571]: Refusing unexpected connect from
[22:19] <Bashing-om> kornyon1: All I have found thus far .. does ' mount ' and ' cat /proc/mounts ' agree and these agree with what you want mounted in fstab ?
[22:31] <zetheroo> I am getting about 3MB/s data transfer speed over wifi - should be a bit better than that no?
[22:32] <daftykins> not if it's 'g', no
[22:33] <ubuntu899> Hi.My USB is not recognizied at all, nothing in gparted ,dmesg | grep USB,lsblk,lsusb.Please help.Thanks.:(
[22:34] <zetheroo> daftykins: intel 6205 - I believe it's an N
[22:34] <daftykins> zetheroo: just because the device is doesn't mean the network is
[22:35] <daftykins> check what it's actually connected at - and also what are you taking this 3MB/sec value from? internet based or local wired LAN to wireless transfer? it all matters
[22:35] <zetheroo> daftykins: from the same source PC to the same destination PC over Ethernet I get about 10 MB/s
[22:35] <zetheroo> no, nothing to do with Internet
[22:35] <daftykins> sounds like a cheap router with 100Mb ports.
[22:35] <daftykins> good stuff
[22:36] <zetheroo> daftykins: the 10MB/s might be because it's going through a POE device
[22:36] <zetheroo> with a Windows PC to the same destination I get about 5MB/s on the wifi
[22:37] <daftykins> none of these statements actually make much sense beyond yourself, who knows your own setup
[22:37] <daftykins> i don't know what's connected to what, or how
[22:38] <m1dnight_> Hmm it seems like my array has disappeared
[22:38] <m1dnight_> Can anyone point me to a proper tutorial on mdadm? All the ones I follow have invalid commands
[22:38] <m1dnight_> Its kind of frustrating
[22:39] <zetheroo> daftykins: not sure what to say ... I know the speed issue is not on the destination end as over Ethernet it's up to 10MB/s
[22:39] <Bashing-om> !raid | m1dnight_ Have you seen
[22:40] <m1dnight_> Yes I have seen those
[22:40] <daftykins> zetheroo: you're saying that when both source and destination are connected via wired it's got a 100Mb link, yet over wireless it's slow... so why aren't you stating what speed your router's access point runs at?
[22:40] <m1dnight_> But I just have two secondary disks as raid.
[22:41] <daftykins> zetheroo: or identifying the line speed from the laptop whilst on wireless?
[22:42] <zetheroo> daftykins: The wireless AP is N and the router is a gigabit router
[22:42] <daftykins> then you must have an intermediary device because 10MB/sec is not gigabit :>
[22:42] <zetheroo> yes, the POE I mentioned
[22:42] <zetheroo> it's inbetween
[22:42] <zetheroo> it's not gigabite
[22:43] <zetheroo> gigabit*
[22:43] <daftykins> that makes 0 sense, power over ethernet doesn't incite a speed reduction, what's the device?
[22:43] <daftykins> i've seen a lot of intel cards get used at slower than N speeds as it'd be the only way some of them work under Linux, so i'd check what mode it's associating and connecting at
[22:44] <zetheroo> Netgear something ... max speed 500 Mbps iirc
[22:44] <daftykins> do you mean a powerline adapter, that networks over mains wiring... not power over ethernet? because that's not the same :D
[22:45] <zetheroo> I already did this (http://bernaerts.dyndns.org/linux/74-ubuntu/322-ubuntu-trusty-intel-centrino-6235-slow-freeze) and then speeds were at 3MB/s instead of 1MB/s
[22:45] <zetheroo> daftykins: sorry, yes
[22:45] <zetheroo> :P
[22:46] <daftykins> zetheroo: wow you mention this NOW? look at the '11n_disable' bit, that might have some bearing
[22:47] <daftykins> i'd be willing to bet you've applied edits that trash 'n' entirely and so you're connected at 'g' speed, wherein 3MB/sec is the best you're likely to see
[22:47] <zetheroo> daftykins: I asked about it before on this channel and nobody seemed to pick up on it ...
[22:47] <daftykins> i just reconnected 'cause my server was DDoS'd overnight, so i wasn't here.
[22:47] <zetheroo> I tried looking specifically for info on this setting, but apparently 8 doesn't disable N
[22:48] <zetheroo> ok
[22:48] <daftykins> well like i said twice already, how about you confirm the speed you are connected at? :)
[22:48] <shome2> I have a BDR device running Ubuntu 14.04. I'm trying to install a new VM on the machine, but VirtualBox keeps trying to install the new vm on the OS drive. I have another Raid 5 array with NAS shares on it that I am trying to point the vm to. What's the best way I can point virtualbox to this ?
[22:49] <zetheroo> does this help? http://paste.ubuntu.com/13550136/
[22:49] <daftykins> shome2: talking in the #vbox channel about how to edit the path your VMs get created would make sense to me. no idea what BDR is though
[22:50] <shome2> daftykins: Thanks. I didn't really review the channels much yet.
[22:50] <daftykins> ah, well a topic is indeed best suited to the channel for it :>
[22:50] <daftykins> zetheroo: claims to be single stream 'n', 135Mb... so assuming you have good signal to this AP, it could do better - but it's Linux so you're lucky to get what you get
[22:51] <zetheroo> I am a room away from the AP
[22:51] <KageNoOni> The problem is that list of channels is huge. It's hard to know ahead of time, if you don't know the channels, which one is going to be appropriate.
[22:51] <KageNoOni> I can see why he didn't notice #vbox immediately (I tried going through that list and didn't notice that one myself either)
[22:52] <KageNoOni> But then again, my problem has nothing to do with running VM's.
[22:52] <shome2> BDR(backup disaster recover) device
[22:52] <shome2> It's running zfs, which I joined the #zfs channel for. I love that channel.
[22:53] <KageNoOni> My issue is apparently some interaction between Nautilus and Cinnamon. I'm not the only one who has had this issue, but apparently that person wasn't able to find a fix for this either.
[22:53] <daftykins> well for both of your future references, "alis" is the channels bot which you PM to discover channels :)
[22:53] <KageNoOni> Good to know, how's the syntax work?
[22:53] <bprompt> KageNoOni: http://irc.netsplit.de/channels/?net=freenode :)
[22:54] <daftykins> KageNoOni: ask the bot.
[22:54] <k1l> !alis | KageNoOni
[22:59] <n7892> TJ- r u there?
[22:59] <KageNoOni> So, anyone know why Nautilus will automatically switch my desktop background, once opened, then will not allow me to switch it back, even after Nautilus is closed? Ubuntu 15.04, Cinnamon desktop.
[22:59] <samthewildone> !bluetooth
[23:00] <KageNoOni> Also, any way to stop it from doing that?
[23:01] <KageNoOni> I had to replace the desktop background it was using, with sudo cp, backing the original file up first, in order to get switch my background.
[23:01] <samthewildone> is this really necessary https://www.thinkpenguin.com/gnu-linux/penguin-usb-bluetooth-40-micro-adapter ?
[23:01] <Jan\> this error: Download failed : Failed to write to /var/www/html/drupal-8.0.0.tar.gz : Bad file descriptor
[23:01] <Gallomimia> i tried putting something called ubuntu kylin on my macbook pro. its strange because the menus and wifi settings dialog are all in chinese. also, the wifi card won't work. broadcom driver issue? some suggestions please. i downloaded the installer image from ubuntu.com and thought it was the newest LTS. 14.04.3
[23:01] <daftykins> samthewildone: for what
[23:02] <KageNoOni> Ubuntu Kylin is developed with China in mind.
[23:02] <Gallomimia> KageNoOni: doublecheck the permissions and owner of the file you made with cp
[23:02] <daftykins> Jan\: what produced the error? a web app?
[23:02] <Jan\> daftykins: yes
[23:02] <Gallomimia> well, starting up with default language of chinese is cool. but saying i want english would change all menus to english, not just the front window
[23:02] <eden_> i find a solution http://firstdoit.com/quick-tip-bluetooth-a2dp-on-linux-mint-17-qiana-mate/?utm_source=blog.gadr.me
[23:02] <eden_> peace
[23:03] <daftykins> Jan\: then it's not really ubuntu support, but likely the username your web server executes as does not have write permissions to the document root where it's trying to download (i assume) a drupal update
[23:04] <daftykins> Gallomimia: get a normal desktop image and install that, we have plenty of resources on getting broadcom working.
[23:04] <daftykins> !mac | Gallomimia you can also contribute to this page and update it with your model's success installing, like i did for an ancient model listed.
[23:04] <Gallomimia> daftykins: thanks. knowing thats not normal will help me
[23:04] <daftykins> well, using kylin is not normal really
[23:05] <jackoo> Hi ! I have a problem booting with my liveusb, my PC can't reconize it .
[23:06] <daftykins> how did you prepare the flash drive?
[23:07] <jackoo> I made it with gparted then unetbootin , and after that i tried with the software included in ubuntu
[23:07] <daftykins> is this a laptop? does it currently have Windows 8 or 10?
[23:07] <jackoo> forgot to say it only doesn't work on one computer, my laptop
[23:08] <jackoo> Yes it's Windows 10
[23:08] <daftykins> ok so you've tested it fine on another host? good stuff
[23:08] <daftykins> !efi | jackoo
[23:08] <samthewildone> daftykins, hey, I'm attempting to connect my headphones and having trouble.
[23:08] <daftykins> jackoo: have a read there, often you must change BIOS parameters such as 'secure boot' to get media to function
[23:09] <jackoo> I tried to boot it with the uefi but my computer returned me an error
[23:09] <jackoo> Secure boot is also off
[23:09] <daftykins> what error?
[23:10] <blackflow> Hello. The mouse cursor disappears over terminal window. It reappears if I click or if I move it outside the term. How do I disable that?
[23:10] <jackoo> Something like error loading this file. I tried to load a file with the efi extension in my liveusb
[23:11] <daftykins> samthewildone: so you were asking whether you'd really have to resort to buying that extra bluetooth dongle? no idea, i have never done anything with bluetooth
[23:11] <daftykins> jackoo: make + model laptop?
[23:11] <jackoo> Oh and a liveusb with Windows works normally
[23:12] <KageNoOni> Ok, I've stumped one person who tried offering help. Anyone else care to take a stab at my problem?
[23:12] <jackoo> It's the HP pavillon x2 10-n003nf. Sorry but what do you mean by ''make''?
[23:13] <KageNoOni> Make means manufacturer, Model is the specific version of what ever they are creating. HP is your make in this case.
[23:14] <daftykins> KageNoOni: people reply when they can help, there's no need to keep going at it :)
[23:14] <Gallomimia> lol. takes longer to flash the usb stick with an image than to download said image. internet these days :D
[23:15] <daftykins> then you end up downloading half that again in updates :(
[23:15] <daftykins> that's the part i find funny
[23:15] <jackoo> ok thanks , so it's the pavillon x2 10-n003nf , a new hybrid laptop
[23:15] <daftykins> jackoo: can you take pictures of each BIOS screen and share them on something like imgur.com ?
[23:16] <atlantis> hello
[23:16] <daftykins> hi
[23:16] <atlantis> i installed ubuntu 14.10
[23:16] <jackoo> Ok
[23:16] <atlantis> but i prefer xfce
[23:16] <atlantis> so i installed xubuntu-desktop
[23:17] <atlantis> sadly all root based commands are not working over the menu drawer
[23:17] <daftykins> atlantis: can you do this without pressing enter as punctuation please?
[23:18] <Bashing-om> !14.10
[23:18] <atlantis> does anyone know how to find the reason for this? are the menu entries wrong?
[23:18] <atlantis> ...
[23:19] <daftykins> yeah don't use 14.10 :)
[23:19] <atlantis> great help :P 14.10 is long term supported
[23:19] <atlantis> so dont advertise something else ;)
[23:19] <daftykins> no it's not, 14.04 is LTS
[23:20] <daftykins> 14.10 was dead back in July as the above factoid states :)
[23:20] <atlantis> sry 14.04
[23:20] <atlantis> not 14 10
[23:21] <daftykins> confirm with "cat /etc/issue"
[23:21] <KageNoOni> I need to remember that one.
[23:21] <jasabella> why not lsb_release -a?
[23:21] <atlantis> Ubuntu 14.04.3 LTS \n \l
[23:22] <KageNoOni> Even better. I need to remember those commands.
[23:22] <jasabella> /etc/issue is just the pre-login message
[23:23] <daftykins> lsb_release -d is also another method
[23:23] <daftykins> jasabella: there are always multiple ways to achieve the same thing in computing, there's no point you jumping all over one when it works perfectly well as another.
[23:24] <atlantis> nice u know so many commands for the same result, how about one for fixing broken menu entries..?
[23:24] <jasabella> what if the user has customised their login message?
[23:24] <daftykins> KageNoOni: please don't use notices in future :)
[23:24] <daftykins> jasabella: your suggestion is moot since it's an ubuntu default
[23:26] <J-G> Hello. I was wondering if anyone could point me to a good disk recovery tool i can run in ubuntu.
[23:26] <hoemich> hi, I'd like to install a fresh ubuntu using debootstrap. My command is: sudo debootstrap --variant=wily /mnt https://de.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu. It fails "Can't cd to de.archive.ubuntu.com". Why is this?
[23:27] <zykotick9> J-G: testdisk/photorec is one option. good luck.
[23:27] <J-G> thanks
[23:27] <mystupidnick> any way to apt-get purge and reinstall a package?
[23:27] <Bashing-om> J-G: ^ +1 see: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DataRecovery .
[23:28] <jackoo> daftykins: here are the picture from my bios, thanks
[23:28] <jackoo> http://imgur.com/a/o5bTB
[23:28] <daftykins> ah one of those newer atom Z things
[23:28] <daftykins> just doing some housework so brb in 5 mins
[23:29] <Bashing-om> mystupidnick: If installed via the repo, yes . Else, depends on how it was installed .
[23:29] <sudo3> hi
[23:29] <cheetahw26_> is syslog-ng no longer supported/available/updated from 14.04 ? I can't find it in the default repositories...
[23:30] <mystupidnick> Bashing-om: then what is the command? apt-get purge and *then* installing doesnt do what i want
[23:31] <bazhang> !info syslog-ng | cheetahw26_
[23:32] <Bashing-om> mystupidnick: How was it installed ? If not via the package manager, then the system will know nothing about said package .
[23:32] <cheetahw26_> that's wily...
[23:32] <cheetahw26_> I'm using 14.04
[23:32] <ninja_hacker_tor> brazilian?
[23:33] <mystupidnick> Bashing-om: it was installed with apt-get
[23:33] <bazhang> !info syslog-ng trusty | cheetahw26_
[23:33] <bazhang> its there cheetahw26_
[23:33] <hoemich> ok, never mind my question. I am dumbt ;-)
[23:33] <cheetahw26_> strange... I'm not finding it from apt...
[23:34] <Bashing-om> cheetahw26_: ' apt-cache show syslog-ng ' says that the package is avail in trusty .
[23:34] <bazhang> cheetahw26_, try apt-get update and upgrade then apt-cache search it
[23:34] <Bashing-om> mystupidnick: What is the package name ?
[23:34] <cheetahw26_> I believe you... I'm probably doing something wrong...
[23:35] <sudo3> how i run dnsmasq on ubuntu 12.04? sudo service dnsmasq start and sudo /etc/init.d/dnsmasq start doesnt work because in /etc i have only dnsmasq.d folder that dont contain any ifno...
[23:35] <cheetahw26_> yeah... sorry, I must not have done an update, I have many results for this now...
[23:35] <bazhang> thats helpful :)
[23:35] <mystupidnick> Bashing-om: fontconfig
[23:36] <sudo3> anyone can help?
[23:36] <sudo3> :(
[23:36] <cheetahw26_> thank you... I read an article once where a developer literally hired someone to sit by them and lightly smack/hit them once in a while
[23:37] <Bashing-om> mystupidnick: Maybe already removed ? What returns ' dpkg -l fontconfig ' ?
[23:39] <tubaman> sudo3: you there?
[23:41] <mystupidnick> Bashing-om: older versions of fontconfig used to throw a lot of files in the /etc/fonts hierarchy
[23:41] <mystupidnick> Bashing-om: many of those files arent used anymore so i'm trying to purge fontconfig to make them go away
[23:45] <oleg_> Hello. My NVidia refuses to acknowledge that my CRT has bigger resolutions than 640x480. Any solutions to that?
[23:46] <stangeland> hi. i have a lenovo x1 carbon 2nd gen. suddently the mouse buttons on the touchpad stopped working in my ubuntu installation. why?
[23:46] <KageNoOni> oleg_ Did you install your driver from NVidia directly, or use the one Ubuntu gives you when it detects you're using an NVidia card?
[23:47] <Bashing-om> oleg_: Is there a generated /etc/X11/xorg.conf file ?
[23:47] <KageNoOni> I had the same problem once, because I used the driver I got from NVidia, instead of using the one Ubuntu installs.
[23:50] <AlexQ> Hi. I need a alternative branch of vaapi intel-driver, namely g45-h264 to check how that would work
[23:50] <stangeland> hi. i have a lenovo x1 carbon 2nd gen. suddently the mouse buttons on the touchpad stopped working in my ubuntu installation. why?
[23:50] <daftykins> AlexQ: no, you use the latest kernel available and that's all that's necessary.
[23:51] <AlexQ> I will get H264 accel support for my laptop?
[23:51] <tachys> Hi #ubuntu! I have a windows 8 partition, an ubuntu 14.04 partition, and an arch-linux partition. I want to uninstall and then reinstall ubuntu because I'm having problems with it. But I can't tell from within window's disk management utility which partition is my ubuntu partition.
[23:52] <KageNoOni> Try a live disk for this, that comes with gparted. Even the Ubuntu install live disc should be able to give you more information.
[23:52] <maggy> hi guys, can I swap the keys Ctrl and Mod5 with each other? I'm almost four a couple hours searching the web for a sollution. I hope someone can help me here
[23:52] <LambdaComplex> tachys: Why not just do it from Arch?
[23:52] <KageNoOni> Windows doesn't do well detecting linux partitions.
[23:52] <LambdaComplex> tachys: One partition will be NTFS and the other will be ext4. Easy.
[23:53] <OerHeks> https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/intel-vaapi-driver
[23:53] <tachys> LambdaComplex: the disk management utility doesn't list the file systems of the non-windows partitions. They are just blank.
[23:54] <LambdaComplex> tachys: Uh....are we still talking about from Arch?
[23:54] <tachys> LambdaComplex: No, I was talking about from windows.
[23:54] <KageNoOni> Don't try to determine which is which from Windows, it can't detect linux partitions.
[23:54] <k1l> tachys: to install ubuntu you need an live ubuntu anyway.
[23:54] <LambdaComplex> tachys: Well, what are you trying to do anyways?
[23:54] <tachys> I could do it from arch, but I'm worried it will be more complex and thus more prone to erasing incorrect partitions.
[23:55] <LambdaComplex> Uh, how?
[23:55] <LambdaComplex> Gparted is pretty easy to use
[23:55] <k1l> tachys: easiest way: see to which partition the grub entry links to
[23:55] <LambdaComplex> And it's not gonna be "prone to erasing incorrect partitions"
[23:55] <LambdaComplex> Whatever you're using is gonna do what you tell it to do
[23:55] <AlexQ> daftykins: What are you actually talking about? I think H.264 is still just disabled in mainstream intel vaapi-driver for G45, if the branch is still there directly on freedesktop.org's git
[23:55] <KageNoOni> From arch, use Gparted, select the ext4 partition that ISN'T mounted, and that's the correct one you want to install Ubuntu onto.
[23:55] <tachys> LambdaComplex: for some reason I have no internet connection from either ubuntu or arch. I cannot use pacman or aptitude to install the necessary partitioning software.
[23:56] <AlexQ> OerHeks: And how do I select branch? I actually wanted to finish my question by asking how do I build and install in a way that will prevent apt-get from overwriting these files on upgrade
[23:56] <LambdaComplex> tachys: Well, wired or wireless?
[23:56] <tachys> I'm reinstalling to try to fix the problem with no internet connection.
[23:56] <tachys> LambdaComplex: Wired.
[23:56] <stangeland> hi. i have a lenovo x1 carbon 2nd gen. suddently the mouse buttons on the touchpad stopped working in my ubuntu installation. why?
[23:56] <k1l> tachys: its not windows. reinstall doesnt solve issues magically :)
[23:57] <KageNoOni> Tachys, do you have the same issue with a live disk?
[23:57] <KageNoOni> A live disk will use default settings, so if there's still an issue, the issue isn't with your installation.
[23:57] <tachys> KageNoOni: I have no tried a live disk. Is that a burnable medium that I can run the OS from?
[23:57] <k1l> tachys: the thing you used to install ubuntu
[23:58] <LambdaComplex> tachys: ip link + systemctl start dhcpcd@[interface].service -now
[23:58] <LambdaComplex> tachys: That'll (hopefully) do the trick for Arch
[23:58] <tachys> LambdaComplex: Cool, I will try that on arch
[23:58] <LambdaComplex> tachys: wait, enable
[23:58] <k1l> …
[23:58] <LambdaComplex> not start
[23:58] <finetundra> Hey folks, what should I do if banshee media player is crashing?
[23:59] <finetundra> it crashes while trying to change tracks
[23:59] <daftykins> finetundra: reset your home folder config of it
[23:59] <OerHeks> AlexQ, i think that package is installed already
[23:59] <LambdaComplex> tachys: use ip link to get the interface name. e.g. mine is enp4s0. so i'd do "systemctl enable [email protected] -now"
[23:59] <finetundra> I have, oh and it also won't play mp3 files after a crash
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2015-11-28-#ubuntu-quality
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[19:42] <sethj> is there a bug where unity doesn't show recently installed applications without a reboot or is it just me?
[19:43] <flocculant> sethj: I did read something somewhere like that, but as I Xubuntu and don't Unity - I don't remember much else
[19:43] <flocculant> but you're not alone :)
[19:43] <sethj> aha, I found it:
[19:43] <sethj> https://bugs.launchpad.net/unity/+bug/1516527
[19:44] <flocculant> phew - glad it wasn't just my memory playing tricks :p
[19:45] <sethj> haha. really frustrating bug.
[19:45] <flocculant> I bet it is :)
[19:46] <sethj> I edited the title so it would be found better. initial reporter didn't know the proper names for Unity's UI elements.
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2015-11-28-#ubuntu-cn
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[02:12] <^k^> 暂无新帖 讲个笑话吧: 有点过分的好笑雷人趣事 : 在公园草坪躺着,用手机听歌,手机放边上。快睡着了,忽然歌声停了。我睁眼一看,一个大叔抓着我手机,一脸惊恐地看着我。一会儿,他呲牙一笑,把手机递给我,特诚实地说:"对噢！一拔掉你就听不见声音了。"
[02:38] <Niac> 精神病人还是有逻辑思维的
[04:31] <^k^> 暂无新帖 讲个笑话吧: 竟然是图片 http://i0.xiaohua.fd.zol-img.com.cn/t_s600x5000/g4/M07/0B/00/Cg-4WVI2sWGIJoS1AAJV3dsOlhAAALrVQKCjIYAAlX1956.jpg 文艺青年都是这样洗衣服的
[05:31] <evolutionboy> 求助http://forum.ubuntu.org.cn/viewtopic.php?f=139&t=474104 ubuntu grub2 硬盘安装kubuntu失败,在线求指点.附详情,时实反馈,在论坛或这里回复我都好
[05:31] <ubrl> ⇪ t: ubuntu grub2 硬盘安装kubuntu失败,在线求指点.附详情,时实反馈 - 查看主题 • Ubuntu中文论坛 zz: evolutionboy1
[06:30] <Janos_> Hi all
[06:30] <ubrl> Janos_:点点点. 14:27
[06:30] <Janos_> is anyone here?
[07:36] <yunfan> onlylove: 那你干嘛不去
[07:37] <onlylove> yunfan: 单纯的想歇几个月
[07:39] <yunfan> onlylove: 这收入比你现在翻一倍了 你可以去工作半年 然后歇半年
[07:40] <onlylove> yunfan: 这只是她承诺的，能不能兑现是一回事，而且我不想签了以后就做半年
[07:40] <onlylove> yunfan: 这项目能做多久还是个问题
[07:42] <yunfan> onlylove: 我只是给你算了这个账而已
[07:45] <onlylove> 账是这么算不假，不过我这边还有不到一年了，如果在那边假设又是一年的话……
[07:47] <onlylove> 我只是讨厌又要去做入职体检而已
[07:48] <onlylove> 当然，这是在谈成的条件下
[07:49] <onlylove> 去试试吧……反正这边的渣渣网我也忍了好久了
[07:53] <^k^> 取新帖 timeout
[08:52] <^k^> 新 系统安装和升级 • Ubuntu 15.04升级到15.10后无法打开图形界面 http://forum.ubuntu.org.cn/viewtopic.php?t=474108 原来机器上的是ubuntu15.04,升级到15.10后无法打开图形界面，一直卡在下面的界面 使用高级模式进入upstart ,可以登录到字符界面。但仍然登录不了图形界面。使用root关机也不行，
[09:25] <ilinunix1> test
[09:25] <ubrl> ilinunix1:点点点. 17:22
[09:48] <^k^> 新 系统安装和升级 • 双系统升级问题 http://forum.ubuntu.org.cn/viewtopic.php?t=474110 我安装了win7和ubuntu的双系统，如果我升级了ubuntu，会不会对win7造成影响，会不会出现引导问题？ zz: rzby — 2015-11-28 17:46
[10:20] <^k^> 取新帖 timeout
[10:50] <MangHuo> test
[10:50] <ubrl> MangHuo:点点点. 18:47
[10:50] <MangHuo> test
[10:50] <ubrl> MangHuo:点点点. 18:47
[10:57] <^k^> 新 常用硬件支持 • U盘无法格式化 http://forum.ubuntu.org.cn/viewtopic.php?t=474111 Error deleting partition /dev/sdb1: Command-line `parted --script "/dev/sdb" "rm 1"' exited with non-zero exit status 1: 警告: 磁盘描述表明物理块大小为 2048 字节，但 Linux 认为它是 512 字节。 (udisks-error-quark, 0) 我想格式化我已经烧入
[10:57] <^k^> ─> U盘的Ubuntu15.10镜像，可是无法格式化，并且出现以上提示 zz: Tohka — 2015-11-28 18:44
[10:57] <onlylove> MangHuo: tset
[10:58] <onlylove> MangHuo: 你这是周末上班么
[11:34] <chendy> linuxsir.org 怎么关闭了？
[12:29] <biubiubiu> kandu: 牛牛在没
[12:47] <^k^> 新 影音多媒体 • indicator-sysmonitor网速显示不准确 http://forum.ubuntu.org.cn/viewtopic.php?t=474112 如题,我在使用indicator-sysmonitor时发现这一点,虽然不影响,不过还是想问问为什么? zz: qingshuizhiren — 2015-11-28 20:37
[13:42] <sennn> no one here
[13:58] <yunfan> 哈哈哈哈
[13:59] <onlylove> yunfan: 你怎么了
[14:08] <yunfan> onlylove: 没怎么 炸鱼而已
[14:27] <^k^> 新 新闻和通知 • 深度操作系统15 Alpha2——带你领略不一样的深度 http://forum.ubuntu.org.cn/viewtopic.php?t=474114 深度操作系统是一个致力于为全球用户提供美观易用、安全可靠的Linux发行版。 深度操作系统15 Alpha2采用全新的系统构架，有了脱胎换骨般的改变，系统性能和资源占用均得
[23:56] <^k^> 新 网卡问题以及网络和拨号 • 想开启热点但是无法连接到隐藏wifi http://forum.ubuntu.org.cn/viewtopic.php?t=474115 14.10正常开启热点，但是，15.10创建wifi后，改mode=ap后，电脑连接隐藏wifi时，连着连着一闪而过的不知道什么又重新链接好像重复连接了三次，最后就连接不上，求大神指教
[23:56] <^k^> ─> ，需要那些信息 zz: crystal2048 — 2015-11-29 0:40
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2015-11-28-#ubuntu-app-devel
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[11:16] <vitimiti> I have a doubt. If I use Ubuntu's SDK projects for a QML project with a C++ library, and only use generic QML imports instead, will that build properly on other systems that aren't Ubuntu, like Android?
[11:38] <DanChapman> vitimiti: as long as your not using any ubuntu specific c++ api's then there shouldn't be any real issue building it elsewhere.
[11:39] <vitimiti> DanChapman, nice. And if I used the Ubuntu QML imports would it still be possible as long as my C++ API is standard Qt?
[11:43] <mcphail> vitimiti: If the QML components don't exist on your target device it will not work
[11:44] <vitimiti> mcphail, thank you :)
[11:46] <DanChapman> well it would "build" as the qml imports aren't checked at build time. But yeah as mcphail said you would need the ubunt ucomponents on the target for it to run.
[11:48] <vitimiti> Thank you both
[16:23] <ok2cqr> Hi, I'm trying to create deb package for ubuntu since 12.04. The package needs libmysql as dependency. There have been several versions of the libmysql since 12.04. How I could add it to dependecies in control file, please?
[16:24] <ok2cqr> Ubuntu 14.04 has limysql18 package, Ubuntu 12.04 has older - libmysql16
[16:25] <ok2cqr> can I add just "libmysql" as dependency (without version)?
[16:29] <ok2cqr> I'm sorry, it's libmysqlclient, not libmysql...
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2024-05-13T22:11:19.377284
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2015-11-28-#ubuntu-devel
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[03:30] <slangasek> @pilot out
[06:46] <Purvik> Hello
[06:46] <Purvik> I am Purvik
[06:46] <Purvik> From India
[06:46] <Purvik> I want to work on opensourse development
[06:48] <Purvik> but i am new because currntly i am in third sem of BE Computer Engg. so i didn't study os now but i self study something.
[06:48] <Purvik> so please guide me
[06:48] <Purvik> i want to join os development
[06:48] <Purvik> my email id is
[06:48] <Purvik> [email protected]
[06:52] <sladen> Purvik: are there any programs you've used, and spotted a bug that is frustrating/annoying. Perhaps that would be the place to start
[06:53] <sladen> Purvik: Ubuntu is made of lots of individual pieces, so picking and playing/experimenting with one small area is likely to be easier to get a handle on
[06:54] <sladen> Purvik: if you find a bug on a small program (start small), you can then apt-get source programnamexyz and trying poking/recompiling
[06:57] <Purvik> can you please suggest me that how to start
[06:57] <Purvik> means any programme
[06:58] <Purvik> because i am not that much familier with linux
[06:59] <Purvik> so suggest me any program that how can i start for linux development programme
[20:46] <juliank> It seems that merging APT 1.1 will cause PPA building from recipes to fail: https://bugs.launchpad.net/launchpad/+bug/1520827
[20:52] <cjwatson> juliank: buildrecipe uses "apt-get install -y lsb-release" and "apt-get build-dep -y --only-source <package>". Do you know which it is?
[20:53] <cjwatson> juliank: And that seems like a reasonably alarming incompatibility - I think both those forms are quite commonplace?
[20:53] <juliank> cjwatson: Both work for me, so it must be something else
[20:54] <cjwatson> juliank: From the log, I think it must be the first of those
[20:54] <juliank> Well, install -y must work. It's used by the test suite.
[20:55] <cjwatson> It'll be passed through sudo, but surely that hasn't changed
[20:56] <cjwatson> The full command line will be /usr/bin/sudo /usr/sbin/chroot <path to chroot> apt-get install -y lsb-release
[20:57] <juliank> cjwatson: And in fact, a previous build worked like that one: https://launchpad.net/~deity/+archive/ubuntu/sid/+build/8350920
[20:57] <juliank> or rather that one: https://launchpad.net/~deity/+archive/ubuntu/sid/+recipebuild/1028125
[20:58] <juliank> cjwatson: Maybe I should try reissuing the build?
[20:58] <juliank> Maybe some bits flipped in memory
[20:58] <cjwatson> I suppose you can try, but it seems like a rather startling coincidence
[20:59] <juliank> Well, there were not many changes in APT between the two builds
[20:59] <cjwatson> The difference is from apt 1.1+2790~ubuntu15.10.1 to 1.1.1+2803~ubuntu16.04.1
[20:59] <cjwatson> Anyway, by all means retry, it's cheap
[21:00] * cjwatson logs this in the bug
[21:04] <juliank> cjwatson: One of those revisions added some weak symbol trickery for commandline parsing, maybe it causes a failure on Ubuntu because of -O3 vs -O2 on Debian.
[21:04] <juliank> https://bazaar.launchpad.net/~deity/apt/debian-sid/revision/2792
[21:05] <juliank> Previously the symbols were undefined and just defined in the main program
[21:05] <cjwatson> juliank: Where would -O3 come in?
[21:05] <juliank> cjwatson: Isn't that the default?
[21:05] <cjwatson> juliank: Only for ppc64el
[21:05] <cjwatson> For reasons
[21:05] <juliank> Ah
[21:06] <juliank> Hmm
[21:06] <cjwatson> Try in a xenial chroot with the apt that that recipe build is installing, I guess?
[21:06] <juliank> Yes
[21:07] <juliank> I'm glad I set up that PPA
[21:08] <cjwatson> Indeed!
[21:09] <cjwatson> Nice bit of QA
[21:10] <juliank> cjwatson: Yes, it's the install thing
[21:12] <juliank> cjwatson: I can verify that command-line parsing is completely broken now
[21:13] <juliank> Now trying to build
[21:23] <juliank> cjwatson: Hmm, I see that LDFLAGS contains -Wl,-Bsymbolic-functions could that cause libapt-private to bind the uses of those weak symbols to the internal weak definitions instead of the strong ones?
[21:33] <juliank> Oh no, mvo was working on exactly the same issue, but is not online anywhere
[23:18] <goddard1> anyone know why a USB device config descriptor would have an array of 38 hex items?
[23:18] <goddard1> most documentation I read only has 8 items
[23:34] <goddard> ?
[23:43] <juliank> goddard: Hey, it might take some time. Especially on a weekend...
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ubuntu-chat
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2024-05-13T22:11:19.382452
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2015-11-28-#ubuntu-ops
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[17:10] <ikonia> hello Empyrium
[17:14] <hggdh> Empyrium: do you have a question for us?
[18:41] <hggdh> sigh
[18:42] <hggdh> @login
[18:44] <hggdh> @login
[18:45] <hggdh> heh. I guess we will need a temp ban
[18:46] <hggdh> @login
[18:46] <hggdh> @btlogin
[18:48] <hggdh> not the first time Empyrium does that
[23:57] <bazhang> @random apple apple emacs apple
[23:57] <bazhang> phew
[23:57] <bazhang> the bot has been cleansed
[23:58] <k1l> i bet it uses the debian random variable :)
[23:58] <bazhang> ohno!
[23:58] <bazhang> I suspect C H U is secretly working for debain
[23:59] <bazhang> gesundheit ubottu
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ubuntu-chat
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2024-05-13T22:11:19.385268
| 2015-11-28T00:00:00 |
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2015-11-28-#ubuntu-no
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[16:40] <goethe22> hallo
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ubuntu-chat
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2024-05-13T22:11:19.388698
| 2015-11-28T00:00:00 |
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2015-11-28-#launchpad
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[13:28] <thopiekar> Hey, I want to package a kernel for my armhf PPA, because the kernel provided by Ubuntu misses many boards including the one I have. Do you have an idea were to start? I tried to make a package with make-kpkg but when rebuilding it with dpkg-buildpackage it runs a make distclean and eats my debian/* folder :/
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ubuntu-chat
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2024-05-13T22:11:19.391095
| 2015-11-28T00:00:00 |
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2015-11-28-#kubuntu
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[04:20] <madd0g37> hi all
[05:52] <rritoch> Problem solved, I needed to delete ~/.local/share/kscreen . This bug was apparently already reported https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=343674
[06:34] <MichaelP> Just upgraded plasma 5.4.2 to 5.4.3 now where can i find Qt 5.5.1 ?
[06:38] <MichaelP> Never mind found it ppa:canonical-qt5-edgers/backup-qt551
[08:45] <nolsen> Is it normal for the kubuntu installation to take a long time on doing the next time?
[08:45] <nolsen> next step*
[09:38] <lordievader> Good morning.
[12:01] <BluesKaj> Hiyas all
[12:02] <BluesKaj> Hi sick_rimmit`, hazamonzo
[12:06] <Odur> Hi BluesKaj
[12:07] <BluesKaj> Hi Odur
[12:14] <hazamonzo> BluesKaj: Hey there!
[12:15] <BluesKaj> 0/
[13:28] <k819k> Hi , i was trying to install minimal version of KDE (kde-plasma-desktop as described here https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InstallingKDE) but i get Unable to locate package kde-plasma-desktop.How do I install this?
[13:33] <h9xnotebook> hello
[13:33] <h9xnotebook> can any one help me
[13:36] <BluesKaj> no instant gratifiaction here
[14:34] <reaper_x> hello everyone :)
[14:41] <BluesKaj> hi reaper_x
[14:55] <rly> I don't have any window decoration for some reason. How can I enable those? It's as if plasma just doesn't work.
[15:01] <Grandson> hello world, maybe you could lend a hand. Im looking for a distro for grandma, she's coming from XP. She's the furthest from computer savvy. After a few environments I abandoned the idea of pre-builds and settled on wmii with Arch Linux, and this time around likely dwb. I have zero experience with a KDE environment, but understand the difficulty for ludites switching and the many differences between OSs. Would you recommend Ku
[15:02] <rly> Grandson: Debian Stable with XFCE4 preconfigured or Mac OS X.
[15:02] <rly> Grandson: or just stay with Windows, as she is old and all.
[15:03] <rly> Grandson: "KDE" is way too unstable for my taste to be left alone with non-technical people.
[15:03] <rly> (Gnome is just an abonimation)
[15:05] <Grandson> My general thought is something that auto updates and is not a massive security risk... I think I actually upgraded it to XP from ME she was using for years. I wasnt sure, but I did think KDE may be too technical, I know that Gnome is a switchers nightmare and she didnt like my description of it off the top. I also find gnome now to be a bit resource heavy
[15:06] <Grandson> Doesnt help that her computer is worse off than the shitty Vaio netbook I turned into a little powerhouse. I love grandma, but not enough to build a custom environment > v <
[15:07] <rly> Grandson: one other piece of advice: do not change the desktop every few years.
[15:07] <rly> Grandson: they generally hate that.
[15:07] <rly> Grandson: or just buy an ipad.
[15:07] <Grandson> Lmao yea, she didnt notice with XP other than it was faster and crashed less :D
[15:07] <rly> Grandson: it's not like they want to use more features than that.
[15:08] <Grandson> Yea shes got a lenovo, but damned if I can convince her to do anything more than solitaire on it
[15:08] <rly> Grandson: old people love those Apple devices.
[15:08] <rly> Grandson: see? More arguments to not give her a real computer.
[15:08] <rly> Grandson: she is just a consumer and perhaps writes an e-mail.
[15:08] <rly> Grandson: or Skypes, etc.
[15:09] <rly> Grandson: old people don't care about the standard shell or whether you can install Cygwin ;)
[15:09] <rly> They just want to *use* the device.
[15:10] <rly> They don't generally know that a machine comes out of the store in a pretty useless state without any configuration.
[15:12] <Grandson> lol Yea thats about it, email, and copious online purchases, of which when I walk by I still have to tell her to use firefox equiped with HTTPS everywhere. Ive been thinking about grabbing one of those monocle styled restrictive OSs the forces everything on her, a premise of computer nowadays I very much opposed but for her pushed updates would be a good thing. Id grab windows 10 if her computer would support it, but Im not usre
[15:18] <Grandson> I don't know irc too well, so apologies for bad format rly. Thanks for the info
[16:25] <MichaelP> How do i stop 15.10 from annoying me with popping up fglrx driver ready to install ?
[16:26] <rly> MichaelP: install an operating system with better configuration options, like NixOS.
[16:26] <rly> MichaelP: or if that's not what you wanted to hear, find the pid of the window.
[16:26] <rly> MichaelP: then find the package name via apt-file.
[16:27] <MichaelP> rly: i am on NixoS Kubuntu 15.10
[16:27] <rly> MichaelP: that makes no sense.
[16:27] <rly> MichaelP: then uninstall that package.
[16:27] <rly> MichaelP: NixOS is the name of an operating system, like Ubuntu also is.
[16:28] <rly> MichaelP: in my experience all the addon Ubuntu crap is well... crap.
[16:28] <MichaelP> Ubuntu is the worst... Everything built off it is better
[16:29] <rly> MichaelP: Debian is also better.
[16:29] <rly> MichaelP: but even Debian packagers make mistakes.
[16:29] <MichaelP> of course debian is
[16:29] <rly> MichaelP: I prefer to run a system with as little human involvement as possible.
[16:29] <rly> MichaelP: unless I know who those people actually are.
[16:29] <MichaelP> what package do i remove to stop thise notifications
[16:30] <rly> MichaelP: I gave you the instructions to do that.
[16:30] <rly> MichaelP: just Google until you understand what my instructions are.
[16:30] <rly> MichaelP: a machine would be able to understand these instructions in two decades.
[16:30] <rly> MichaelP:so, good luck.
[16:30] <MichaelP> Im use to arch for the last year... Just giving something else a shot
[17:43] <odmen> vd
[19:10] <gh0st1ng> hey guys, any way to get the front audio jack working togheter with the back audio jack?
[19:18] <Algot> Apologies. Long time absent. Recent Kubuntu 15.10 install. What is Meta Key? Win does not seem to work.
[19:19] <Algot> Want to be able to do accents easily and it used to work for me in older Kubuntu versions.
[19:19] <lordievader> Meta is the Windows key, indeed.
[19:20] <lordievader> The compose key is disabled by default, iirc.
[19:26] <Algot> :lordievader thank you. I tracked it down in system settings. I'm back in business.
[20:37] <nolsen> I keep having a problem with KDE, it keeps crashing with a segfault error, for plasma and some other thing that I forgot.
[20:41] <nolsen> and the slow login.
[21:30] <zleap> anyone here,
[21:52] <clivejo> hi zleap
[21:52] <zleap> hi
[21:52] <clivejo> how are you?
[21:52] <zleap> i am just seeting if someoe can help jubo2 with the temp / fan control issues
[21:52] <zleap> clivejo: i am good thanks
[21:53] <xixor> awwww yeah, wassup nerds
[21:53] <zleap> jubo2: says there is a problem with how kubuntu handles temperature sensing and fan control, as in the cpu overheats
[21:54] <xixor> is there a default way to launch dolphin with a keyboard shortcut? Similar to windows+E in windows?
[21:55] <clivejo> jubo2 seems to be having a lot of issues with Kubuntu
[21:57] <clivejo> xixor: you could probably configure a shortcut for it
[21:57] <xixor> clivejo: yes, I do this every time I install kubuntu. Just seems like one of the useability things that should be default. The whole 'everything under the sun' is configuration gets tiresome the 40th time you do things
[21:58] <clivejo> System Settings > Shortcuts
[22:00] <xixor> alright, next question, how to reset kde/plasma settings? the old mv ~/.kde ~/.kde.old no longer seems to work?
[22:03] <valorie> xixor: I wasn't here, can you say again what is the problem?
[22:04] <xixor> valorie: sup
[22:04] <xixor> valorie: no problem really
[22:04] <valorie> I couldn't connect to freenode for a couple of days on my bnc
[22:04] <valorie> so i"m here without it
[22:04] <xixor> bnc?
[22:04] <valorie> and no backlog
[22:05] <valorie> it's a type of bouncer -- I connect to it; it connects to freenode
[22:05] <clivejo> valorie: is there a way to pipe the install with a config file to setup Kubuntu with a certain config?
[22:05] <valorie> only it wasn't
[22:05] <valorie> hmmm
[22:05] <clivejo> I know Ive heard of sys admins in uni's doing something like that
[22:05] <valorie> we set the defaults
[22:05] <valorie> but I think that is in kubuntu-settings or so
[22:06] <clivejo> xixor would like a default shortkey to launch dolphin
[22:06] <lordievader> clivejo: Suppose you could do that if you have a puppet infrastucture.
[22:06] <valorie> well, there is a way to roll your own ISO
[22:06] <valorie> !custom iso
[22:06] <valorie> !iso
[22:06] <valorie> pff
[22:06] <lordievader> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LiveCDCustomization
[22:07] <valorie> that's it, thanks lordievader
[22:07] <lordievader> ;) Got it among my favorites. Came in handy when I messed with netboot images.
[22:07] <clivejo> he also asked "how to reset kde/plasma settings? the old mv ~/.kde ~/.kde.old no longer seems to work?"
[22:07] <clivejo> I just tend to create a new account :/
[22:07] <valorie> ah, they are now in ~/.config or ~/.local
[22:08] <xixor> .config seems to have a ton of settings
[22:08] <valorie> best to try to find the actual file and mv only that one
[22:08] <valorie> yes, it's default and we now follow it
[22:08] <xixor> so does one then pick and choose the particular file(s) that correspond to plasma/kde?
[22:08] <clivejo> xixor: is there something broken?
[22:08] <valorie> same with .local
[22:09] <xixor> clivejo: I'm interested in experiencing virgin kubuntu 15.10, which I just upgraded to, see what the raw, unaltered user experience is like
[22:09] <xixor> I guess I could just make a new user and login
[22:10] <valorie> that's the easiest, yeah
[22:10] <clivejo> Id create a new user
[22:11] <xixor> so, for my own user, my 2 year old son has had his way with this machine quite severely, and icons are all over the place, the taskbar is all messed up for example
[22:11] <xixor> so if I want to just reset kwin/plasma/kde settings only, I have to selectively identify the dozen or so files and directories in .config?
[22:12] <valorie> in general, yes
[22:12] <valorie> sometimes you can even just edit them
[22:12] <valorie> usually just text files
[22:13] <valorie> and surprisingly interesting and boring simultaneously
[22:13] <xixor> so, if for an existing user, if you wanted to start with a clean/wiped kde/plasma, there is no real way?
[22:14] <clivejo> that would be a question for the plasma channel I reckon
[22:17] <xixor> my comment about dolphin is just that, some level of standardization is useful. Gaming on PCs got generally a lot better once every game settled on wasd+mouse, cntrl+jump,space activate, mouse look/shoot rather than inventing their own custom keyboard mappings
[22:18] <valorie> sure, although it would be good to do that at the KDE level
[22:18] <xixor> A prime example of this is alt+tab
[22:18] <valorie> rather than just Kub.
[22:19] <xixor> or meta+tab
[22:20] <xixor> sure, alt+tab, meta+tab, cntrl+tab and shift+tab behaviour are all completely customizable. But rational defaults have been established to follow what almost everyone uses
[22:20] <xixor> imagine if every kde user had to go settings->shortcuts to configur alt+tab keyboard shortcuts on every kde/kubuntu installation
[22:21] <nolsen> I keep having a problem with KDE, it keeps crashing with a segfault error, for plasma and some other thing that I forgot.
[22:21] <nolsen> and the slow login.
[22:23] <clivejo> my main "short code is ALT+SPACE#
[22:23] <clivejo> that gives me access to everything I want
[22:24] <xixor> cmd+space triggers spotlight in osx, so there is cross-platform standardization there as well
[22:24] <clivejo> Alt + Space then Do gets me doplhin
[22:25] <xixor> cmd/alt+space is becoming the universal standard for "search for shit"
[22:25] <clivejo> very handy :)
[22:25] <xixor> only problem is it requires two hands to do quickly
[22:26] <clivejo> my keyboard it just takes two fingers
[22:26] <clivejo> are you a one finger typer?
[22:26] <xixor> if you have one hand on the mouse for instance, on a qwerty keyboard, alt+space d,o requires quite a bit of movement
[22:28] <xixor> but anyhoo, you have reaffirmed my experiences of discussing useability issues of linux with linux users
[22:28] <xixor> cheers
[22:30] <nolsen> I don't see it as good as just pulling up start menu and start typing
[22:30] <nolsen> Maybe because I'm used to searching shit through a start menu (windows)
[22:32] <nolsen> wtf, plasmashell was using a chunk of my RAM, killing it frees about a GB of RAM.
[22:33] <valorie> best is krunner: alt+space, start typing
[22:33] <valorie> no mousing needed
[22:33] <nolsen> But is anyone having sigterm problems related with plasmashell?
[22:33] <clivejo> I wonder will Mycroft actually deliver
[22:34] <nolsen> Because randomly it crashes with a sigterm error.
[22:36] <clivejo> nolsen: not I
[22:37] <valorie> me either -- no crashes of plasma for .... 18 months or so
[22:37] <nolsen> What version you using?
[22:37] <valorie> used to crash frequently
[22:37] <nolsen> How did you fix it?
[22:37] <valorie> 15.10 on this box, Xenial on my travel laptop
[22:37] <nolsen> Now I have another problem, it's using a lot of RAM.
[22:38] <valorie> very early 16.04
[22:38] <valorie> nolsen: update, update, update
[22:38] <nolsen> I have 5.4.3
[22:38] <nolsen> plasmashell 5.4.3
[22:38] <nolsen> valorie: It's the latest according to APT
[22:40] <valorie>
[22:40] <valorie> $ plasmashell --version
[22:40] <valorie> plasmashell 5.4.3
[22:40] <valorie> often it isn't plasma causing the crash, but drivers
[22:41] <bprompt> *cough*
[22:42] <bprompt> nolsen: methinks your issue, as valorie pointed out, is a matter of the drivers shipped, and your hardware compatibility
[22:42] <nolsen> Well, I thought I installed flgrx or whatever it's called for my AMD APU
[22:45] <nolsen> Does it not have good support with AMD?
[22:45] <nolsen> s/flgrx/fglrx
[22:46] <bprompt> dunno... on the amd drivers myself, for one I run an intel chipset and 12.04, and runs smooth :)
[22:48] <valorie> I also have intel
[23:18] <Algot> /part
[23:40] <BanHammo_> Hello. My NVidia doesn't recognize the CRT i connected to it via a DVI/D-Sub connector
[23:41] <BanHammo_> and only suggests 640x480 mode for it
[23:41] <BanHammo_> Can I solve this somehow?
[23:43] <valorie> hmmm, doesn't sound like a KDE or Kubuntu problem...
[23:43] <valorie> np, you left before an answer
[23:43] <valorie> whatevs
[23:46] <bprompt> yet another drive-by
[23:46] <bprompt> hehehe
[23:46] <clivejo> probably expected an answer yesterday
[23:47] <bprompt> well, he/she's over at #ubuntu now =)
[23:47] <finetundra> I don't think CRT's get above that do they?
[23:48] <bprompt> CRT monitors? I think they have even bigger resolutions than flatscreens
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[07:39] <Kilos> morning Squirm inetpro Kerbero Webtrici- and all other lurkers
[07:39] <Kilos> and MaNI
[07:40] <MaNI> morning
[09:56] <melodie> hi
[09:57] <melodie> I need help to get this bug report find it's way up to the deciders, Debian packagers, Ubuntu packagers and so on:
[09:57] <melodie> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gtk+3.0/+bug/1510709
[09:57] <melodie> "In Wily libgtk-3-common pulls in adwaita-icon-theme which in return pulls in ubuntu-mono" [Low,Confirmed]"
[09:57] <melodie> because it's the ennemy of our bandwidth and the enemy of economics and ecology as well
[09:58] <Kilos-> you are going to have to wait till the guys get back from saterday shopping and school sports melodie
[10:00] <melodie> Kilos- I have things to do in town too, just I am hoping you can relay the message, because if we don't do something about it, the next LTS will be the bloatest one since the beginning of the gnu/linux distributions
[10:00] <Kilos-> oh my
[10:00] <Kilos-> ill tell the guys to check yes
[10:07] <melodie> Kilos thank you
[10:08] <Kilos> anytime
[10:12] <melodie> Kilos during the whole coming week-end, if you can. :)
[10:12] <melodie> on your mailing list too, if possible
[10:12] <melodie> we need to struggle against un needed depends, it costs bandwidth, money, electricity is anti economics and anti ecologic
[10:16] <Kilos> whew
[10:17] <Kilos> why dont you go complain by the dev guys they the ones doing the developement
[10:17] <Kilos> maybe they have a reason for it
[10:19] <melodie> Kilos this is a bug report, this is where it's supposed to be, and there is only one possible reason : many apps complain "adwaita-icon-theme is not installed", but for one, that's harmless messages (I use my bento openbox each day and it works perfect without it!) and second, it should be in the recommands, not in the mandatory ring.
[10:20] <Kilos> ok
[10:22] <melodie> Kilos what you need to understand, is that icons are just images and a pack of icons, it's just an archive which is installed into /usr/share/icons. We users should be able to choose any icon theme as we like and not being forced into one or other set.
[10:22] <melodie> we can even get them from gnome-look.org or xfce-look.org or kde-look.org or box-look.org
[10:23] <melodie> and install them either in the system in /usr/share/icons for all users or in your .icons directory just for the current user
[10:23] <Kilos> what do all the lubuntu peeps say about this
[10:24] <melodie> that they don't care because they are moving to Qt :D
[10:24] <melodie> but I have sent a mail to gilir in case he will consider helping there, especially since the next Lubuntu will still be using the GTK environment
[10:25] <Kilos> ok
[10:25] <melodie> gilir : Julien Lavergne, the leader of the project
[10:25] <melodie> tech leader
[10:25] <melodie> I still think that all users for all African countries should add to this bug report, especially when it comes to saving bandwidth
[10:26] <melodie> the very last vesions of Bento Openbox are way under the 700MB
[10:26] <melodie> and soon I'll build a very small edition, one on which people will just install what they need, and choose their programs.
[10:26] <melodie> they will have a learning curve, but yet light enough
[10:27] <Kilos> nice
[10:28] <melodie> on #xubuntu, someone just told me the adwaita-icon-theme is also broken, and showed me this: http://i.imgur.com/ydvLUzG.png
[10:30] <Kilos> try get elacheche involved and lunapersa
[10:34] <melodie> they are not here at the moment right?
[10:35] <melodie> I discussed with elacheche yesterday and I think I don't know lunapersa yet
[10:35] <melodie> can you point to our discussion on your mailing list?
[10:35] <melodie> using the link to http://irclogs.ubuntu.com ?
[10:37] <Kilos> nope
[10:38] <Kilos> lets hear what superfly and inetpro say about it all
[10:38] <Kilos> but theyll only e here this evening most likely
[10:47] <melodie> I found the links, :D
[10:47] <melodie> http://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2015/11/28/%23ubuntu-africa.html
[10:47] <melodie> http://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2015/11/28/%23ubuntu-za.html
[10:47] <melodie> Kilos thanks for your help. We all are stronger together :D
[15:11] <Madmax247> Hello all, I'm new to Ubuntu and I hope to not bother you guys too often
[17:08] <Kilos> Maaz seen superfly
[17:08] <Maaz> Kilos: superfly was last seen 1 day, 2 hours, 33 minutes and 46 seconds ago in #ubuntu-za on freenode [2015-11-27 06:34:31 PST], and has been offline on freenode since 2015-11-28 06:59:52 PST
[17:08] <Kilos> Maaz seen inetpro
[17:08] <Maaz> Kilos: inetpro was last seen 19 hours, 15 minutes and 22 seconds ago in #ubuntu-za on freenode [2015-11-27 13:53:16 PST], and has been online on freenode since 2015-11-27 00:08:12 PST
[17:54] <squish101> what is the best way to dl tv series? is it still sabnzb and sickbeard?
[18:17] <Kilos> night all.sleep tight
[18:17] <magespawn> good evening
[19:10] <inetpro> .
[19:30] <inetpro> wb superfly
[19:30] <superfly> thanks -_-
[19:31] <superfly> my VPS's networking seems to die periodically, still not sure why
[19:31] <superfly> but it's in sore need of an update
[19:31] <superfly> *upgrade
[19:33] <inetpro> still using linode?
[19:33] <inetpro> or what was it again?
[19:37] <inetpro> superfly: what are your monthly rates these days?
[19:37] <superfly> yes, linode
[19:38] <superfly> still $20/month, but there's a cheaper $10/m option
[19:38] <inetpro> so that would be like almost R300 per month for 2GB?
[19:39] <inetpro> our rand really taking a dive these days
[19:43] * inetpro should make plans to get monthly salary in USD or GBP now
[20:18] <magespawn> hi hi
[20:20] <magespawn> inetpro almost any of the major currencies would be good
[20:20] <inetpro> magespawn: eh, true
[20:21] <magespawn> there are ways, but most take time
[20:21] <inetpro> yep, I wish it was just a simple process to open a foreign account and pay foreign services from that account
[20:22] <magespawn> that will happen when the government looses interest in exchange control
[20:22] <inetpro> on the other hand, maybe we should look at local hosting now
[20:22] <inetpro> s/now/again/
[20:24] <magespawn> local hosting for?
[20:24] <inetpro> magespawn: need to make a plan for when the AWS thing runs out
[20:25] <magespawn> sign up for another one
[20:25] <inetpro> want to keep the QA bot running for oom kilos
[20:29] <inetpro> I see at www.vps.co.za you can get a 1GB RAM setup for R150pm and 2GB for R300
[20:31] <inetpro> the 1GB option is more than enough for the QA bot
[21:10] <inetpro> good night
[21:36] <squish101> i have a couple vps servers that arn't doing anything. real small ones
[21:37] <MaNI> government will never lose interest in exchange control, pay foreign services using bitcoin :p
[21:41] <squish101> i thought of moving money into SA with bitcoin, but the bitcoin -> bank rapes you
[21:43] <MaNI> bitcoin -> takealot -> gumtree -> bank
[21:43] <squish101> each one taking 2-3% of the value?
[21:45] <MaNI> moving money into the country is backward anyway
[21:45] <MaNI> everyone else is trying to get it out :p
[21:46] <MaNI> curiously bitcoin->zar on bitx usually fetches more than you would get if you converted bitcoin->usd->zar - so its possibly more feasible than you think
[21:47] <squish101> i got stuck with bitx with validating something
[21:48] <MaNI> like now bitcoin->usd->zar suggests that 1 BTC should be R5123 - but its actually R5265
[21:48] <MaNI> so you gain there and avoid the large cuts the banks usually take on usd->zar conversion
[21:49] <MaNI> would be interesting to see how competitive it is in practice
[21:49] <squish101> so $1000 -> zar would be?
[21:49] <squish101> I'll check with my normal way
[21:50] <squish101> R14,190.71
[21:53] <squish101> what would 2.811832189854909 bitcoins get me in the bank?
[21:56] <squish101> R14804.29 (plus any hidden charges... hmm may be worth it
[21:56] <squish101> HOLLY CRAP the exchange rate sucks
[22:03] <squish101> i wonder what standard bank will charge to receive bitcoin transfer from bitx? probably a zillion rand in bank charges
[22:06] <magespawn> good night all
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2015-11-28-#kubuntu-devel
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[09:38] <lordievader> Good morning.
[11:38] <soee_> :O http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=NVIDIA-Still-PRIME-Sync
[11:57] <yofel> great, so that'll be a christmas present
[11:57] <yofel> next year -.-
[12:01] <BluesKaj> Hiyas all
[13:14] <BluesKaj> it's taking 2 mins from grub to the login page on Kubuntu 16.04 ...is this a common problem ?
[14:40] <BluesKaj> sick_rimmit, check your freenode connection !
[19:08] <BluesKaj> the jam is a go...later folks
[20:04] <valorie> yay, I can connect without bnc
[20:11] <clivejo> bnc?
[20:11] <valorie> KDE's bouncer
[20:13] <valorie> I can connect to it, but it hasn't been connecting to freenode for over 24 hours
[20:13] <clivejo> I should look into that
[20:13] <valorie> so I just gave up and went to my cabin
[20:13] <valorie> file a ticket with the kde sysadmins
[20:13] <clivejo> freenode have has a few problems
[20:13] <valorie> the link is in #kde-sysadmin /topic
[20:14] <valorie> so I heard
[20:14] <valorie> anyway, this chan has a public log, but i'm lacking all of the rest of my chans
[20:15] <valorie> I'm going to assume I'll never get them, because the bnc isn't connecting
[20:16] <valorie> yet sgclark is connecting via the bnc with no problem
[20:16] <valorie> weird
[20:27] <clivejo> did anyone test calligra?
[20:28] <valorie> could you re-state what you want tested?
[20:29] <valorie> I can do so on wily and/or xenial
[20:29] <clivejo> calligra 2.9.8 in my PPA for wily and xenial
[20:33] <valorie> what is the name of your PPA?
[20:33] <clivejo> ppa:clivejo/wily or xenial
[20:35] <valorie> do I need the recommends?
[20:36] <clivejo> what you mean?
[20:36] <clivejo> fonts-lyx?
[20:37] <valorie> the recommends are:
[20:37] <valorie> texlive wordnet kexi-calligrasheets-driver kexi-mysql-driver kexi-sybase-driver kexi-xbase-driver libfftw3-bin libfftw3-dev gsl-ref-psdoc gsl-doc-pdf gsl-doc-info gsl-ref-html
[20:37] <valorie> libmagickcore-6.q16-2-extra spacenavd xfig ivtools-bin tgif transfig
[20:37] <clivejo> probably best
[20:37] <valorie> in other words, those will not be automatically installed
[20:37] <valorie> stuff like that is under the control of the packager
[20:41] <valorie> sec
[21:07] <valorie> ok, installing on xenial now
[21:08] <valorie> what in particular do you want tested, clivejo?
[21:08] <clivejo> that it works :P
[21:14] <valorie> well, this is funny: I created a test file in Author, saved it, found it, clicked to open it, and it opens in LibreOffice
[21:14] <valorie> in any case, IMO that is a success
[21:15] <clivejo> I think thats a Kubuntu default
[21:16] <clivejo> and really if we are a KDE "flavour" calligra should be out default :P
[21:16] <valorie> yes
[21:16] * clivejo nudges valorie
[21:16] <valorie> it really bugs me when KDE people spend time on LO rather than Calligra
[21:17] <valorie> well, in Kubuntu we have to ensure that we provide the best to our users
[21:17] <clivejo> to be honest Id never heard of calligra until Riddell showed me how to package it
[21:17] <clivejo> but Ive actually started to used it
[21:17] <valorie> Calligra has to be at least...... 75% of LO
[21:18] <valorie> Koffice I used, but when the fork happened, it was very difficult
[21:18] <valorie> for the entire KDE community, actually
[21:18] <valorie> some thought it would end KDE as a project
[21:21] <valorie> the Calligra devels are lovely people -- they just need a few more folks contributing
[21:22] <valorie> Plan seems to work, but I don't wanna save docs for everything
[21:25] <valorie> Flow works -- made a doc, saved it, etc.
[21:25] <valorie> LO opens it, looks the saem
[21:25] <valorie> same
[21:27] <valorie> sheets -- LO opens, but some of the data is missing, and it's mixed around
[21:28] <valorie> I'm pretty sure that's not your fault
[21:30] <valorie> same with Stage -- my info was not saved, but the doc does open in LO
[21:31] <valorie> so, that's it for Wily
[21:38] <valorie> clivejo: words in x, good
[21:39] <valorie> author -- wouldn't save file
[21:40] <valorie> hmmm, saved the second time, successfully opened in LO
[21:42] <valorie> flow just won't save the file
[21:42] <valorie> in xenial
[21:43] <clivejo> any error messages?
[21:44] <valorie> something about no formatting
[21:44] <valorie> so I opened the format menu and chose one
[21:44] <valorie> now it saves
[21:44] <valorie> weird bug
[21:45] <valorie> and the file opens in Karbon!
[21:45] <valorie> love it
[21:45] <clivejo> flow saves for me ok
[21:46] <clivejo> Ive drawn a few basic circuits on it
[21:47] <clivejo> valorie: just make sure you remove my PPA again
[21:47] <valorie> a lot of can't save without formatting
[21:48] <valorie> in Sheets too
[21:48] <clivejo> I sometime upload some very broken stuff you dont want on your system!
[21:48] <clivejo> ok, lets try 2.9.9
[21:50] <valorie> same, but if I run the format thing, then it saves OK
[21:50] <valorie> so somehow a default format is missing
[21:50] <clivejo> I might need a new PPA for this, Im running out of space
[21:52] <valorie> how does one remove a PPA?
[21:53] <valorie> also, sheets still does not save the calligra data when it opens in LO
[21:55] <valorie> oh, ppa-purge, now I remember
[21:59] <valorie> ok, gone in xenial
[22:00] <clivejo> thanks
[22:01] <valorie> my x. is pristine
[22:01] * clivejo whistles and twiddles fingers waiting for 2.9.9 to download
[22:03] <valorie> neato, it seems they have proven that a hidden room exists in the tomb of Tutenkhamen
[22:03] <clivejo> can anyone help xixor in the kubuntu channel?
[22:03] <valorie> wow, that is mangled spelling
[22:59] <clivejo> any devs here?
[23:01] <valorie> just you
[23:01] <valorie> :-)
[23:01] <valorie> working on a Saturday!
[23:01] <clivejo> Im not a dev
[23:01] <valorie> right
[23:02] <valorie> you have a PPA
[23:02] <valorie> which I just tested
[23:02] <valorie> so......
[23:02] <clivejo> its such a miserable evening here, cold, rain
[23:06] <valorie> clear, cold, sunny here
[23:06] <valorie> I should give the birds some water -- everything is frozen
[23:14] <sgclark> I am here, but not here. KDE hat on today.
[23:18] <clivejo> how many hats have you?
[23:20] <sgclark> lol lost count
[23:31] <valorie> frozen down there too, sgclark?
[23:31] <valorie> and how was the jetlag this trip?
[23:32] <sgclark> frozen yes.
[23:32] <sgclark> jetlag was rather rough first day back. Ok now though.
[23:37] <valorie> one day is doable, I guess
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ubuntu-chat
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2015-11-28-#ubuntu-br
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[01:58] <MerliM> vcoltet
[01:58] <MerliM> voltei lol
[02:02] <astroo-> ola
[02:22] <MerliM> astroo-: ola man
[04:51] <astroo-> ciao pessoal
[09:58] <MerliM> bom dia
[09:58] <MerliM> !
[09:58] <MerliM> hggdh: mano de boa
[09:58] <MerliM> :D
[12:06] <mirqui> bom dia :)
[14:01] <mirqui> boa tarde :)
[14:03] <SkNix> boa tarde mirqui
[14:03] <mirqui> blza , tudo bem?
[14:07] <SkNix> tudo na paz.
[14:18] <mirqui> blza sknix , isso que serve :)
[14:18] <mirqui> quais são as novas?
[14:20] <SkNix> sem novas..
[14:21] <SkNix> mirqui, ja usou nix package manager?
[14:21] <mirqui> ahaha tbm não , só de barriga cheia e com um pouco de sono
[14:21] <SkNix> eu to numa preguiça soh
[14:21] <mirqui> não cara , sou novo no linux
[14:21] <mirqui> do que se trata?
[14:22] <SkNix> a ta
[14:22] <SkNix> um sistema de gerenciamento de pacotes.
[14:22] <SkNix> so que cada pacote é inteiro, sem precisar de dependencia de outros pacotes.
[14:23] <SkNix> acho que eh isso, pelo que entendi, queria ver se alguém ja usou
[14:23] <mirqui> tipo .deb?
[14:23] <SkNix> eh.. mas sem as dependencias.. sabe.
[14:23] <mirqui> no ubuntu vai ter o snap
[14:23] <mirqui> snapy
[14:23] <SkNix> quando vc instala um pacote, ele depende de outros.. aih vc vai instalar outra versão, ele dá incompatibilidade.. aih acaba quebrando algum pacote.
[14:24] <mirqui> pacotes inteiros sem dependencias
[14:24] <SkNix> hummm
[14:24] <SkNix> tem como gerenciar as versões?
[14:24] <mirqui> o que da sempre confusão é o gtreamer
[14:24] <mirqui> como assim?
[14:25] <mirqui> não te entendi
[14:25] <mirqui> não sei se o snapy já saiu
[14:25] <SkNix> tenho um problema com haskell.
[14:25] <SkNix> uso o cabal.. ele instala os pacotes do haskell.
[14:25] <mirqui> é para a versão 16 do ubuntu
[14:25] <SkNix> mas aih dá conflito um com o outro.
[14:26] <mirqui> sou novo no linux
[14:26] <SkNix> e aih lasca tudo, se tivesse como gerenciar as versões, não daria isso, o nix parece que faz isso.
[14:26] <mirqui> tenta o hggdh , elfon
[14:26] <mirqui> edence
[14:26] <SkNix> eu baixei o so deles, mas te falar.. desanimei total
[14:26] <mirqui> qual sistema?
[14:27] <mirqui> o willywolf?
[14:27] <SkNix> nixos.. é a distro que usa e criou o nix..
[14:27] <SkNix> parece que dá para instalar no ubuntu, mas fui infeliz tentando.
[14:28] <mirqui> conheço poucas distros
[14:28] <mirqui> conheço ubuntu , mint , suse , kubuntu , lubunto
[14:28] <SkNix> queria uma forma de usar meus pacotes do ghc, mas tipo como um bottle, ou env igual do python.
[14:29] <mirqui> tenta users mais avançados
[14:29] <SkNix> aih eu poderia gerenciar as versões dos pacotes... e os pacotes.
[14:29] <mirqui> ai os pacotes seriam on demand?
[14:30] <lynxer10> bom dia
[14:31] <mirqui> oi lynuxer :)
[14:31] <lynxer10> :)
[14:31] <mirqui> blza ?
[14:32] <SkNix> blz
[14:32] <lynxer10> blza e vc?
[14:32] <mirqui> tudo bem graças a deus :)
[14:32] <lynxer10> :)
[14:32] <SkNix> tudo tranquilo tbm.
[14:36] <lynxer10> to com problemas no driver de video da intel i915 algurm sabe como resolver?
[14:36] <lynxer10> [drm:intel_set_pch_fifo_underrun_reporting [i915]] *ERROR* uncleared pch fifo underrun on pch transcoder A
[14:37] <lynxer10> [drm:cpt_irq_handler [i915]] *ERROR* PCH transcoder A FIFO underrun
[14:38] <mirqui> não faço a mínima idéia
[14:38] <lynxer10> ahahuauh somos 2 entao
[14:39] <mirqui> mas reinstala de novo , evita um monte de quebra cabeça
[14:39] <lynxer10> reinstalar o que?
[14:39] <mirqui> o driver
[14:39] <mirqui> primeiro resistala , depois instala
[14:40] <mirqui> desinstala
[14:41] <SkNix> nao sei nada desse driver
[14:41] <lynxer10> entao tenho o driver mas ta dando pau em dependencias e nao consigo encontrar-las
[14:41] <lynxer10> esse driver e de video da intel hd 4000
[14:42] <mirqui> haaa , não tem um driver genérico ?
[14:42] <mirqui> me aconteceu um caso parecido
[14:42] <lynxer10> acho que nao . achei na agina da intel mas em codigo fonte
[14:43] <mirqui> só que foi com o exibidor de filmes no ubuntu
[14:43] <mirqui> ai usei o vlc e desistalei o sistema de ver vídeos do ubuntu
[14:43] <mirqui> funcionou bem , ou seja
[14:43] <mirqui> troquei um programa por ooutro
[14:44] <lynxer10> o que tenho que ter instalado pra instalar os codigos fontes? voces tem o listado? acho que isso que ta me faltando pq nunca instalei nada aqui em codigo fonte deve ta faltando algum gcc sei la do que
[14:45] <mirqui> tenta apt-get -f
[14:47] <lynxer10> quando dou make me aparece isso : Makefile:520: recipe for target 'all' failed
[14:47] <lynxer10> make: *** [all] Error 2
[14:47] <mirqui> xiii cara , não entendo nada disso
[14:47] <mirqui> sei fazer o arroz com feijão
[14:47] <lynxer10> e.. eu tambem nao mas to querendo aprender
[14:48] <mirqui> está faltando , instalo , reinstalo e forço a instalação
[14:48] <mirqui> haa
[14:48] <mirqui> conhece o foca linux?
[14:49] <SkNix> lynxer10, quer compilar eh.
[14:50] <SkNix> digita so make.
[14:51] <lynxer10> digitei make
[14:51] <lynxer10> e esse erro que da
[14:51] <SkNix> qual é o pacote?
[14:51] <SkNix> digita o nome aqui para eu dar uma olhada
[14:51] <lynxer10> intel-gfx-installer-for-linux_1.2.1
[14:53] <lynxer10> como posto o erro todo aui sem dar flood no canal?
[14:54] <mirqui> é arquivo tar.gz?
[14:54] <lynxer10> e sim
[14:54] <SkNix> linux-headers
[14:54] <mirqui> então é barra de diretório
[14:54] <mirqui> \.
[14:55] <mirqui> e depois me parece que é make
[14:55] <lynxer10> exatamente o que fiz
[14:55] <lynxer10> ele configura tudo tranquilo
[14:55] <lynxer10> na hoa do make da erro
[14:55] <lynxer10> *hora
[14:55] <SkNix> https://01.org/linuxgraphics/downloads/intel-graphics-installer-linux-1.2.0
[14:55] <SkNix> pegou nessa pagina?
[14:55] <mirqui> então vc pode ter copiado um arquivo corrompido
[14:56] <lynxer10> SkNix, nao funciona vei to com a versao 15.10 a 15.04 nao pega da erro por isso peguei o codigo fonte
[14:56] <SkNix> qual erro da?
[14:57] <lynxer10> perae
[14:57] <lynxer10> ah erro de versao mesmo
[14:58] <lynxer10> cp: cannot stat ‘images/default-logo.png.tmp’: No such file or directory
[14:58] <lynxer10> Makefile:1308: recipe for target 'images/logo.png.tmp' failed
[14:58] <lynxer10> make[2]: *** [images/logo.png.tmp] Error 1
[14:58] <lynxer10> make[2]: Leaving directory '/home/lynxer10/Downloads/intel-gfx-installer-for-linux_1.2.1'
[14:58] <lynxer10> Makefile:870: recipe for target 'all-recursive' failed
[14:58] <lynxer10> make[1]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1
[14:58] <lynxer10> make[1]: Leaving directory '/home/lynxer10/Downloads/intel-gfx-installer-for-linux_1.2.1'
[14:58] <lynxer10> Makefile:520: recipe for target 'all' failed
[14:58] <SkNix> eu vi aqui um que vc tinha colado neh
[14:58] <lynxer10> make: *** [all] Error 2
[14:58] <lynxer10> esse e o erro todo
[15:00] <mirqui> é só erro no logo
[15:01] <mirqui> uma imagem png armazenado na pasta tmp
[15:01] <SkNix> vou ver aqui.. baixei ele
[15:01] <lynxer10> valeu cara
[15:01] <lynxer10> obrigado
[15:01] <mirqui> mas estava bugado o teu monitor?
[15:02] <lynxer10> nao, esta ok tudo a questao que no boot tarda um pouco por causa desse erro ae dou o comando dmesg e me salta esse erro no boot
[15:03] <mirqui> muda o logo
[15:03] <lynxer10> como?
[15:03] <mirqui> põe uma outra imagem
[15:03] <mirqui> ahaha ai fico te devendo
[15:04] <mirqui> pega um outro tema
[15:04] <lynxer10> perae
[15:04] <mirqui> antes de ontem peguei um tema muito legal do mac ox
[15:04] <mirqui> os
[15:04] <mirqui> mudou o logo de entrada do ubuntu
[15:05] <lynxer10> mesmo erro
[15:06] <mirqui> tenta a versão 1404 64 bits cara
[15:06] <mirqui> rápida
[15:06] <SkNix> tem um tuto aqui lynxer10
[15:06] <SkNix> http://www.edivaldobrito.com.br/intel-graphics-no-ubuntu/
[15:07] <mirqui> se quizer o kernel melhor , tem o 4.2
[15:07] <lynxer10> valeu SkNix vou dar uma lida
[15:07] <SkNix> so usa a nova versão do driver.
[15:07] <mirqui> e op kernel low latence tbm
[15:07] <SkNix> vi mai gente ali falando.
[15:07] <SkNix> parece que a distribuição não é suportada
[15:08] <SkNix> aih ve esse.. atualizado
[15:08] <SkNix> http://www.edivaldobrito.com.br/intel-graphics-no-ubuntu-15-04-e-fedora-22/
[15:09] <SkNix> lynxer10,
[15:10] <mirqui> sknix boa ideia :)
[15:11] <lynxer10> mas que droga nao funciona
[15:11] <lynxer10> Preparing to unpack intel-linux-graphics-installer_1.2.1-0intel2_amd64.deb ...
[15:11] <lynxer10> Unpacking intel-linux-graphics-installer (1.2.1-0intel2) ...
[15:11] <lynxer10> dpkg: dependency problems prevent configuration of intel-linux-graphics-installer:
[15:11] <lynxer10> intel-linux-graphics-installer depends on libpackagekit-glib2-16 (>= 0.8.10); however:
[15:11] <lynxer10> Package libpackagekit-glib2-16 is not installed.
[15:11] <lynxer10> dpkg: error processing package intel-linux-graphics-installer (--install):
[15:12] <lynxer10> dependency problems - leaving unconfigured
[15:12] <lynxer10> Processing triggers for desktop-file-utils (0.22-1) ...
[15:12] <lynxer10> Processing triggers for gnome-menus (3.13.3-6) ...
[15:12] <lynxer10> Processing triggers for mime-support (3.58) ...
[15:12] <lynxer10> Errors were encountered while processing:
[15:12] <lynxer10> intel-linux-graphics-installer
[15:12] <SkNix> instala as dependencias
[15:12] <SkNix> sudo apt-get install libpackagekit-glib2-16
[15:13] <SkNix> lynxer10,
[15:17] <lynxer10> SkNix, fiz isso, aparece aqui que o pacote esta obsoleto
[15:17] <lynxer10> desisto vou esperar sair a atualizacao dele entao
[15:19] <mirqui> tenta sudo aptget autoremove e vê no que dá
[15:21] <lynxer10> dsisntalou um monte de coisa
[15:22] <lynxer10> huauhaauh espero que nao tenha ferrado nada vou dar um boot pra ver
[15:24] <MerliM> era pra ele nao sair do sistema ahuahua espero q nao tenha feito logoff antes de tentar resolver
[15:25] <mirqui> era para ele ver o que estava faltando
[15:25] <mirqui> e instalar na certeza
[15:26] <mirqui> depois acessar o pacote de drivers
[17:17] <shallwe> boa tarde
[18:06] <TUB4LC41N> Alguem pode me ajudar?
[18:06] <TUB4LC41N> estou com problemas pra instalar o popcorn time no elementary os
[18:06] <shallwe> TUB4LC41N: boa tarde
[18:06] <TUB4LC41N> boatarde
[18:06] <shallwe> TUB4LC41N: popcorn time não funciona mais, site caiu
[18:07] <shallwe> pois era pirataria
[18:07] <TUB4LC41N> .se ainda funciona
[18:07] <shallwe> e aqui é canal do ubuntu, não do elementary os :( mas acredito que o procedimento seja o mesmo
[18:07] <shallwe> TUB4LC41N: não funciona mais popcorn amigo
[18:08] <shallwe> mesmo que vc instale o app o link ta off
[18:08] <shallwe> dos filmes
[18:08] <TUB4LC41N> tenta o .se
[18:08] <TUB4LC41N> usei hoje no android
[18:08] <TUB4LC41N> só não consigo intalar no elementary
[18:08] <shallwe> oq .se?
[18:13] <shallwe> a não, cara pedindo suporte pra outra distro e ainda de pirataria kkk é fogo hein
[18:46] <MerliM> popcorn não já morreu
[18:47] <MerliM> creio que mesmo que nao seja um canal elementary OS podemos ajudar ja que o mesmo usa a base do ubuntu
[18:47] <MerliM> ou estou errado
[18:47] <MerliM> shallwe: porem entendi o que quis dizer :D
[18:48] <hggdh> MerliM: estás certo
[18:50] <MerliM> hggdh: obg por confirmar tava em duvida se era ubuntu ou debian
[18:50] <hggdh> elementary é um derivado do Ubuntu. Quão diferente, não sei.
[18:52] <MerliM> themas e icones rsrsrsrs
[19:09] <MerliM> ha e o WM -> pantheon que a cannonical que me desculpe acho o do elementary OS bem mais bonito e funcional opniniao minha <---
[19:19] <hggdh> MerliM: todos tem o direito de expressar opiniões :-)
[19:19] <MerliM> curto quando tu eh mais racional que banidor lol
[19:21] <MerliM> ^^
[19:21] <hggdh> heh
[19:25] <Daekdroom> elementaryOS é bem diferente do Ubuntu. É a shell e vários aplicativos diferentes, alguns que nem estão disponíveis nos repositórios do Ubuntu
[19:25] <MerliM> Ex???
[19:26] <MerliM> pq o video é um fork, assim como o Música pra facilitar
[19:26] <MerliM> até o edit dele é um "fork" digamos assim do gedit :D
[19:27] <MerliM> vejo um visual diferente, porem em material de aplicaticos em si, nem tanto eu curto a proposta do PantheonOS
[19:27] <MerliM> ops
[19:27] <MerliM> PantheonVM
[20:03] <MerliM> hggdh: te liga fizeram um hack social aqui no Brazil, o cara se vestiu de papai noel e alugou um helicoptero e quando tava no ar deu voz de sequestro, isso num campo privado e ainda nao encontraram o helicoptero, ele desceu numa chacara libertou o piloto e saiu fora O.o
[20:03] <MerliM> hack merry ch... social lol
[20:10] <MerliM> correcao n]ao foi um helicoptero foi um avião ahuahuhauhauha
[20:10] <MerliM> dai a chacara alugaram em nome de um sertanejo, bem feito neguinho paga pau aqui pra sertanejo e nao valida os dados
[20:11] <MerliM> pronto era so isso
[20:59] <nuno_nunes> boa noite a todos
[20:59] <nuno_nunes> alguem precisa de suporte
[21:03] <MerliM> nuno_nunes: boa noite
[21:03] <MerliM> nops so feras aqui
[21:03] <nuno_nunes> lol
[21:03] <nuno_nunes> eu estou a restaurar tudo aqui
[21:10] <MerliM> vixi crash????
[21:11] <nuno_nunes> crash o que
[21:11] <nuno_nunes> eu tive limpei o disco todo :D
[22:01] <astroo-> ola pessoal
[22:02] <pikatchu> preciso saber se o computador tá com pau
[22:02] <pikatchu> tá desligando toda hora q o vídeo é usado
[22:03] <astroo-> diz que versao ubuntu e chip video
[22:04] <pikatchu> desde q atualizei o windows 7 pra 10... Quero pegar o ubuntu pra ver se é falha q percisa trocar a placa
[22:04] <pikatchu> se desligar no ubuntu, vou ter certeza q a culpa é de falha da placa
[22:06] <astroo-> e amd nvidea ...
[22:08] <shallwe> pikatchu: desligando o video ou o pc?
[22:08] <pikatchu> o pc desliga
[22:08] <shallwe> pode ser sua fonte, deve acontecer a mesma coisa no ubuntu
[22:08] <shallwe> acontece de repente ou quando vc esta jogando?
[22:09] <pikatchu> é intel
[22:09] <pikatchu> notebook. Só acontece com vídeos de alta definição e jogos
[22:09] <shallwe> a bom é notebook, mas se esta desligando o pc não é software é hardware problema
[22:10] <shallwe> deverá acontecer a mesma coisa com o ubuntu eu só vejo uma coisa, deve estar esquentando
[22:11] <pikatchu> nunca aconteceu isso com windows 7, só depois de atualizar pro 10.
[22:11] <shallwe> pikatchu: testar não custa
[22:12] <astroo-> o driver pode ter defeito
[22:12] <shallwe> baixa o ubuntu ubuntu.com usa o 14.04
[22:12] <shallwe> astroo-: mas pra desligar o notebook acho que não
[22:12] <shallwe> muito estranho isso
[22:12] <pikatchu> eu já reinstalei o 10, continuou. Eu ia reinstalar o 7, mas ele vai apagar tudo pra voltar.
[22:12] <pikatchu> vou testar ubuntu num pendrive
[22:13] <pikatchu> não tenho onde por mais de 300gb de coisas
[22:16] <pikatchu> se bem q o mundo esta cheio de historias de problemas com w10, um monte de problemas com drivers e programas incompativeis
[22:18] <pikatchu> preciso de um jogo opengl pra testar no ubuntu
[22:18] <pikatchu> warsow
[22:19] <pikatchu> ubuntu vem com driver da intel atualizado?
[22:29] <nuno_nunes> boa noite
[22:29] <nuno_nunes> :)
[22:29] <shallwe> boa noite
[22:29] <nuno_nunes> quem precisar de suporte é só dizer
[22:29] <nuno_nunes> :)
[22:29] <astroo-> ola
[22:37] <shallwe> eu preciso, meu celular android ta lento o.O
[22:37] <nuno_nunes> apaga apps que nao usas
[22:37] <nuno_nunes> :D
[22:37] <nuno_nunes> fica resolvido
[22:39] <shallwe> já fiz ;) pior coisa é comprar cel com 8gb interno
[22:39] <shallwe> e pior que isso ainda é não pode instalar coisas no cartao SD o.O
[22:40] <nuno_nunes> é samsung??
[22:40] <shallwe> tomara que no ubuntu não tenha isso
[22:40] <shallwe> isso aí 4s mini
[22:40] <nuno_nunes> da para instalar no cartão de memoria
[22:40] <nuno_nunes> ve no menu definições e depois aplicações
[22:41] <nuno_nunes> e ve se tem opção cartão sd
[22:41] <shallwe> nuno_nunes: não tem não amigo isso é do android tem como mover algumas coisas mas instalar direto não
[22:41] <nuno_nunes> tem
[22:41] <shallwe> é pq pode cair a performance do sistema
[22:41] <nuno_nunes> eu já fiz isso a um samsung
[22:41] <nuno_nunes> ainda esta semana
[22:42] <shallwe> só se for outra versão do android a minha é 4.4
[22:42] <nuno_nunes> clicas no aplicativo
[22:42] <nuno_nunes> eu tenho a versao 4.4.4
[22:42] <nuno_nunes> :D
[22:42] <nuno_nunes> não aparece a opção cartao sd
[22:42] <nuno_nunes> e da para mover
[22:42] <nuno_nunes> instala o 360 :)
[22:42] <shallwe> sim mover apenas isso eu sabia, mas ele nao move o app move apenas alguns arquivos
[22:43] <nuno_nunes> e gere os aplicações
[22:43] <nuno_nunes> move algumas parte da app
[22:43] <nuno_nunes> sempre foi assim
[22:43] <shallwe> nuno_nunes: isso
[22:43] <nuno_nunes> shallwe, tem que ficar alguns bocados no telemovel
[22:43] <nuno_nunes> se não funciona
[22:43] <nuno_nunes> :D
[22:44] <shallwe> mas as partes grandes ficam no cel internamente, tenho 1 jogo de 1gb e ele moveu alguns k só pro sd
[22:44] <shallwe> o resto é no cel
[22:44] <nuno_nunes> lol
[22:44] <nuno_nunes> eu nunca tive problemas com isso
[22:45] <nuno_nunes> tenta correr o 360 security
[22:45] <shallwe> não é culpa do sistema mas sim do cel que tem pouca memória
[22:45] <nuno_nunes> 8 gb é pouca memoria
[22:45] <nuno_nunes> :S
[22:45] <shallwe> pelo menos as fotos e videos mando tudo pro SD
[22:45] <nuno_nunes> eu tenho 4 Gb de memoria interna
[22:45] <nuno_nunes> e so me aparece 2 gb
[22:46] <nuno_nunes> e outro tenho a memoria dividida em 1 gb e tal para apps
[22:46] <nuno_nunes> :D
[22:46] <nuno_nunes> e quanto tens de ram
[22:46] <fslima0> oi, tem alguém aqui da Bahia? :)
[22:46] <nuno_nunes> fslima0, queres ajuda
[22:47] <fslima0> ajuda sim, só de emprego :)
[22:47] <nuno_nunes> fslima0, aqui é um chat de ajuda se quiseres offtopic vai aqui #ubuntu-br-offtopic ou #ubuntu-offtopic
[22:47] <fslima0> ok
[22:48] <nuno_nunes> aqui é ajuda de linux
[22:48] <nuno_nunes> fslima0, precisas ajuda no sistema
[22:48] <nuno_nunes> linux ubuntu
[22:48] <nuno_nunes> xD
[22:48] <fslima0> não... meu ubuntu funciona tranquilo aqui :)
[22:49] <fslima0> nem tenho mais Windows instalado. Aqui é tudo legal e livre... Windows é muito caro para adquirir
[22:49] <nuno_nunes> lol
[22:49] <nuno_nunes> lol
[22:49] <nuno_nunes> shallwe, estas ai
[22:51] <nuno_nunes> eu tinha 4 partições para linux :D
[22:51] <nuno_nunes> mas alterei tudo :D
[22:51] <nuno_nunes> agora vao ser 5
[22:51] <nuno_nunes> :D
[22:51] <nuno_nunes> xD
[23:00] <shallwe> sim voltei, estava comendo cachorro quente da patroa
[23:00] <nuno_nunes> viu o que eu disse
[23:00] <shallwe> tinha pimentão pra caramba, mas falei que tava bom :)
[23:04] <nuno_nunes> lol
[23:04] <nuno_nunes> eu nao falei disso :D
[23:06] <shallwe> das partições do linux?
[23:08] <nuno_nunes> eu do teu android :D
[23:08] <nuno_nunes> xD
[23:08] <nuno_nunes> lol
[23:08] <nuno_nunes> já viu onde estao os aplicativos instalado
[23:09] <nuno_nunes> e instale o 360 security ou ccleaner
[23:10] <nuno_nunes> e corra :)
[23:10] <nuno_nunes> pode ter tralha no sistema
[23:10] <nuno_nunes> :D
[23:11] <shallwe> a sim valeu, eu já tenho o cleaner alguma coisa, ele sempre resolve
[23:11] <shallwe> ajuda até a fechar apps abertos
[23:11] <nuno_nunes> eu uso o 360 :D
[23:12] <shallwe> mas sei lá, eu tinha um iphone antes, ai dei pra patroa e peguei esse dela
[23:12] <shallwe> nem sei pq fiz isso :(
[23:12] <nuno_nunes> as apps que tens abertas é que deixam lento
[23:12] <shallwe> vou tentar esse 360 vlw
[23:12] <nuno_nunes> e tem antivirus :D
[23:13] <shallwe> a nao antivirus é fogo ai vc quer matar o sistema kkk
[23:13] <nuno_nunes> faz 3 coisas
[23:13] <nuno_nunes> :D
[23:13] <shallwe> android já é lento pra dodoi e ficar colocando mais antivirus
[23:13] <nuno_nunes> nao mata
[23:13] <nuno_nunes> :d
[23:13] <nuno_nunes> eu ja utilizo esse a 1 ano
[23:13] <nuno_nunes> :
[23:14] <nuno_nunes> sem razao de queixa
[23:14] <shallwe> não é a toa que enquanto um iphone tem 1gb de ram os da samsung tem 3gb ram pra fazer a mesma coisa
[23:14] <nuno_nunes> lol
[23:15] <nuno_nunes> vou comprar um chocolate
[23:15] <nuno_nunes> :D
[23:15] <shallwe> e eu tomar uma água
[23:15] <shallwe> valeu
[23:18] <shallwe> caramba essa placa de video onboard da VIA não suporta resolução full hd kkkk
[23:19] <shallwe> intel celeron é fogo, ano 2006, 65nm esquenta pra caramba!
[23:19] <nuno_nunes> as graficas da via e sis no linux não sao grande coisa
[23:19] <shallwe> nada estou arrumando um pc com windows kkk, e até no windows nao funciona
[23:19] <nuno_nunes> tens que instalar programas :D
[23:20] <shallwe> imagina no linux, mas tranquilo nem é meu mesmo o pc se não já teria jogado no ixão
[23:20] <nuno_nunes> no windows funciona
[23:20] <nuno_nunes> espera um pouco
[23:21] <pikatchu> afff
[23:21] <pikatchu> o ubuntu não pode instalar. Ele fala q não detecou sistema operacional nenhum
[23:21] <pikatchu> se eu instalar assim ele vai formatar tudo
[23:21] <nuno_nunes> pikatchu, o que se passa
[23:22] <nuno_nunes> o teu pc tem uefi
[23:22] <nuno_nunes> ou bão
[23:22] <nuno_nunes> não
[23:22] <pikatchu> não
[23:22] <nuno_nunes> shallwe, da informação da tua grafica dessa via
[23:22] <nuno_nunes> pode ser
[23:23] <pikatchu> to usando do pen drive, mas cade tudo? não vejo terminal, só tem umas opções básicas de configuração tipo idioma e teclado. Mas cade o resto?
[23:23] <nuno_nunes> pikatchu, quando tentas instalar o te aparece
[23:23] <nuno_nunes> pikatchu, que programa usou para criar a pen usb
[23:24] <pikatchu> o do proprio site do ubuntu
[23:24] <pikatchu> http://www.ubuntu.com/download/desktop/create-a-usb-stick-on-windows
[23:24] <nuno_nunes> tens que usar um programa
[23:24] <nuno_nunes> lol
[23:25] <nuno_nunes> no windows tens que usar o ubootnetin
[23:25] <pikatchu> eu ia ver um video no youtube pra ver se desliga sozinho. Mas não dá, todos os vídeos tão faltando 1080p, como se não tivesse driver de vídeo
[23:25] <pikatchu> http://www.ubuntu.com/download/desktop/create-a-usb-stick-on-windows esse
[23:25] <nuno_nunes> que grafica tens
[23:25] <pikatchu> http://www.pendrivelinux.com/universal-usb-installer-easy-as-1-2-3/#button
[23:25] <pikatchu> intel hd3000
[23:25] <nuno_nunes> eu recomendo o ubootnetin
[23:26] <nuno_nunes> essa grafica no linux da a 100 %
[23:26] <nuno_nunes> :)
[23:26] <nuno_nunes> eu já com a intel já não digo nada
[23:26] <nuno_nunes> eu estou a usar amd/ati
[23:27] <pikatchu> eu estou usando um unbutu limitado?
[23:27] <nuno_nunes> mas estas a usar o windows
[23:27] <pikatchu> dei boot do pendrive sem instalar
[23:27] <nuno_nunes> que erro que aparece quando fazes o boot pela pen
[23:28] <pikatchu> nenhum. Mas quando tento instalar, diz q não tem SO instalado e pergunta se quero apagar tudo. Mas tem SO e partição de recuperação lá
[23:28] <nuno_nunes> diz avançado
[23:28] <nuno_nunes> :D
[23:29] <nuno_nunes> no dash procura gparted
[23:29] <pikatchu> aí no avançado não vejo nada sobre criação uma partição. Tem "criar tabela" e ele fala q se eu fizer isso vai apagar todas as partições
[23:30] <nuno_nunes> usa o gparted
[23:33] <nuno_nunes> gere as partições com o gparted
[23:34] <pikatchu> baixei warsow
[23:34] <nuno_nunes> baixas-te o que???
[23:34] <nuno_nunes> omg
[23:34] <pikatchu> se rodar 10 minutos sem desligar, a culpa é do windows 10
[23:34] <nuno_nunes> com cada cromo
[23:34] <nuno_nunes> o que tem o windows lol
[23:37] <nuno_nunes> eu utilizo o windows 10 e não tenho problema com ele
[23:37] <nuno_nunes> e esta a trabalhar em uefi com o meus linuxs todos
[23:41] <pikatchu> o ubuntu do pen drive é reduzido?
[23:42] <nuno_nunes> tens que o instalar
[23:42] <nuno_nunes> consegues iniciar o windows 10
[23:42] <nuno_nunes> vais la e retira o boot rapido e reinicia o pc
[23:42] <nuno_nunes> o windows 10 tem esse defeito
[23:45] <astroo-> se fosse esse o defeito era 1 alegria
[23:46] <nuno_nunes> já o windows 8 tem o mesmo problema
[23:50] <User32> ola
[23:50] <User32> alguem
[23:50] <User32> ?
[23:50] <astroo-> ola eu sempre
[23:51] <User32> kk vish
[23:51] <User32> aque tbm kk
[23:52] <MerliM> shallwe: só trocar seu android pelo cyanogen mod ele mantem so o sistema base na memoria interna todo resto no cartao
[23:52] <User32> vish
[23:53] <MerliM> User32: diga alguma duvida com suas libs32 ????
[23:53] <MerliM> kakakak
[23:53] <User32> nenhuma
[23:53] <User32> kkk
[23:53] <User32> a minha duvida mesmo e como
[23:53] <User32> mecher no irc
[23:53] <User32> iniciante
[23:54] <nuno_nunes> lol
[23:54] <MerliM> nussa
[23:54] <nuno_nunes> MerliM, eu quero ver se desbloqueio o meu equipamento :p
[23:54] <MerliM> pega o mannuall mano
[23:54] <MerliM> nuno_nunes: que equipamento
[23:55] <nuno_nunes> vodafone smart 4 turbo
[23:55] <User32> rs
[23:55] <User32> tbm tenho duvida
[23:55] <User32> ipad geraçao 3 pedindo email e senha e nao sei
[23:55] <nuno_nunes> diga la sua duvida
[23:56] <nuno_nunes> User32, aqui não suporte da apple
[23:56] <nuno_nunes> faça um novo registo la :D
[23:56] <nuno_nunes> xD
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2015-11-28-#ubuntu-rs
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[17:55] <milobit-_> zasto se milobit na nalazi na ovom kanalu? molim bez kic!
[17:55] <milobit-_> to nije resenje
[17:56] * milobit-_ ja sam pas tragac
[17:56] <milobit-_> dungodung: :)
[17:57] <milobit-_> imas li ti kakve moci na vom kanalu dungodung ?
[18:12] * BManojlovic- dado jednom "mom bratu" BM. prolaz u Banku ali mi nikad ne isplati kamatu!;(
[18:13] <BManojlovic-> i nik ste mi ukrali!
[18:14] <BManojlovic-> :)
[19:20] <jaksic-vuk> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hIaMekqmx_Q
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2015-11-28-#ubuntu-locoteams
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[19:15] <tsimonq2> wxl: hey! did a lot of LoCo stuff for our upcoming meeting. I had our head graphics guy working like crazy, as he had free time too. so look at our wiki page and the subpages. All except the Team Reports have valid info in them and all of them are cleaned up. Here is a link: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WisconsinTeam
[19:16] <tsimonq2> wxl: we have details for our next meeting too, so it would be awesome if you could watch the livestream either during or afterwards.
[19:16] <tsimonq2> wxl: all details are easy enough to find on the wiki page'
[19:16] <wxl> nice!
[19:16] <wxl> you're going to use hangouts then tsimonq2 ?
[19:17] <tsimonq2> wxl: yep!
[19:18] <tsimonq2> wxl: I already have two of my friends watching. I plan on starting at 6:50 by myself to kinda give a brief intro to who we are and what we are doing, as well as links to items, for people who don't know and are watching afterwards
[19:19] <tsimonq2> wxl: and then the meeting will wrap up around 8:00, but I will stay until 8:10 to say sorta the same things, as well as give extra links and resources
[19:19] <wxl> i wish there was a good foss alternative to hangouts…
[19:20] <tsimonq2> but it does what we need it for, so good enough
[19:20] <tsimonq2> at least IMO
[19:21] <tsimonq2> wxl: so here is our agenda: http://loco.ubuntu.com/meetings/ubuntu-us-wisconsin/1022/detail/
[19:21] <tsimonq2> wxl: take a look
[19:22] <tsimonq2> wxl: so a lot more details about what I have done and where we are going in the future are going to be in that livestream, so I would highly reccomend watching
[19:22] <tsimonq2> *recommend
[19:24] <tsimonq2> wxl: so that wraps up my little mini-report! :D
[19:24] <wxl> nice
[19:24] <wxl> keep up the good work
[19:24] <tsimonq2> :D
[19:25] <tsimonq2> wxl: so do you plan on watching just for documentational/informational purposes?
[19:27] <wxl> if i can watch
[19:27] <tsimonq2> ok, cool :D
[19:27] <tsimonq2> (all times are in CST, so 4:50 your time)
[19:43] <tsimonq2> wxl: ^
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2015-11-28-#xubuntu-devel
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[09:43] <flocculant> ochosi: grabbed libgtk-3-0 upgrades from proposed, we're now back where we were without enormous grey borders everywhere
[10:22] <wolf1> hi, is the "irc session for people who would like to start testing pakages/iso" still on tomorrow? if so at what time?
[10:40] <knome> 18 UTC
[10:41] <knome> wolf1, ^
[10:43] <wolf1> ok thx knome , this count me out, a bit too late for me. take care.
[10:44] <knome> sorry to hear that
[10:44] <knome> you can read the session log later if you want
[10:44] <knome> and you can obviously always ask questions - we'll happily help
[10:45] <wolf1> cool , shall try to read the session log later then. thx knome
[10:46] <knome> np
[11:49] <dkessel_> knome: regarding google code-in - i generelly think it's a good idea
[12:06] <knome> dkessel_, me too
[12:06] <knome> but it needs mentors and somebody thinking what the project is
[12:06] <knome> or projects are
[17:57] <slickymaster> evening
[17:57] <flocculant> evening slickymaster :)
[18:26] <flocculant> evening akxwi-dave
[18:26] <akxwi-dave> evening flocculant
[18:27] <flocculant> you got a plan of any sort for tomorrow?
[18:28] <akxwi-dave> yep.. go thru the basics of app testing and the iso's...
[18:28] <flocculant> mentioning running with ppa's?
[18:28] <akxwi-dave> just had to build a pc ready for tommorrow.. my main rig died this morning
[18:29] <flocculant> oh my :|
[18:29] <akxwi-dave> yes the 3 main ones.
[18:29] <flocculant> cool
[18:29] <akxwi-dave> tell me :-( just gost me £350 for a new mobo cpu and memory
[18:29] <flocculant> :(
[18:29] <akxwi-dave> arrives on monday
[18:30] <akxwi-dave> luckily i had a spare dual core lenovo think centre I could build
[18:30] <flocculant> :)
[18:31] <flocculant> it'll be interesting to see who turns up for it
[18:31] <akxwi-dave> been away on holiday all week and came back to dead pc and the house alarm screwed.. :-)
[18:31] <flocculant> oh lovely ...
[18:32] <akxwi-dave> true .. even if just 1 or 2 start to test more I'll be happy
[18:32] <flocculant> yep
[18:32] <flocculant> well
[18:32] <flocculant> I'll be happy if 1 or 2 more report bugs/tests :D
[18:33] <akxwi-dave> lol.. very true
[18:33] <flocculant> we seem to have new people turning up at the testers lp page - so that's positive
[18:34] <akxwi-dave> :-) thats good
[18:35] <flocculant> 11 since the cycle start
[18:36] <flocculant> evening drc
[18:37] <drc> afternoon (barely :)
[18:37] <flocculant> :)
[18:38] <akxwi-dave> howdo drc
[18:39] * drc wonders what's going on? Folks are being nice to him...checks what's going on behind him.
[18:39] <drc> and howdo akxwi-dave :0
[18:40] <flocculant> drc: lol - have I ever not been :)
[18:41] <drc> no, but when everybody is, I get suspicious.
[18:41] <flocculant> :)
[18:41] <drc> flocculant: got you lesson(s) plan set for tomorrow?
[18:42] <flocculant> akxwi-dave has :)
[18:42] <flocculant> we were just talking about that
[18:44] <flocculant> akxwi-dave: something else - we need to try and get people to understand that we're not just looking for obvious bugs eg gmusicbrowser crashes on close, but things a bit less obvious like bug 1508918 which might end up being wishlist
[18:46] <flocculant> if it goes well might be worth doing so again when we get to Beta stage
[18:46] <akxwi-dave> flocculant, read my mind... i'm using the gmb one as an example off obivous one
[18:46] <akxwi-dave> yup
[18:47] <flocculant> yea - we can use it as an example, but as it's now not seeded we'll be ignoring it
[18:47] <akxwi-dave> sorry flicking between chat and a rather nice little game i bought off steam..
[18:47] <flocculant> that's ok - I'm flicking between chat and Mr Robot
[18:49] <drc> and I'm flicking between the LC and MU ends of the field.
[18:50] <akxwi-dave> :-)
[18:55] <knome> for 16.04, i think it would be a great idea to highlight some of the small details of the system that help users use it
[18:56] <knome> things like default button highlight
[18:58] <flocculant> knome: not sure I understand what you mean in regard to what we were talking about, unless it's not meant to and is a statement :)
[18:59] <knome> it's a disconnected statement
[18:59] <flocculant> ok :)
[19:02] <flocculant> knome: you mean like a blog post type thing?
[19:03] <knome> that was my first thought
[19:03] <flocculant> aah yes you do - just seen the mail from b/p @D
[19:03] <flocculant> :D
[19:03] <knome> and it could be extended to something that's mentioned on the release announcement
[19:03] <knome> to try to make that a bit more exciting than just "download is here"
[19:04] <flocculant> yea
[19:04] <flocculant> now that the more tech stuff is elsewhere, gives more chance to fill the webpage announcement to be more *bling*
[19:04] <knome> yes, totally
[19:05] <knome> and now that the website technically allows $XYZ better
[19:05] <flocculant> right
[19:05] <knome> currently, i have no new features or other big fixes planned
[19:06] <flocculant> yup
[19:07] <knome> meaning that i'm happy with most of the things there
[19:07] <knome> so i can focus more on the content side
[19:07] <flocculant> yea
[19:07] <knome> i'm sure there will be updates needed once i start doing that though, but what can you do :P
[19:07] <flocculant> :)
[19:09] <knome> also working on the content is easier even when you only have time intermittedly
[19:09] <flocculant> for sure - nothing to stop starting final release announcement now
[19:09] <knome> yep
[19:09] <flocculant> rather than on the 24th April :p
[19:10] <knome> yes ;)
[19:10] <knome> the latter is more likely though
[19:10] <knome> :P
[19:10] <flocculant> ha ha ha
[19:10] <knome> maybe we could do some images on the release announcement
[19:10] <knome> in addition to the xenial artwork
[19:11] <knome> ...which would be nice to draw before the UI freeze :P
[19:11] <flocculant> well
[19:11] <flocculant> if 'team' are going to 'I use foo instead of gmb' maybe some images of one or two of those perhaps
[19:12] <flocculant> I don't know - just thinking aloud
[19:12] <knome> i don't know
[19:12] <knome> they are kind of disconnected
[19:12] <flocculant> just not a pic of a qt one :D
[19:12] <knome> but that would be another article series to highlight for sure
[19:12] <knome> ^ also thought that when thinking the "small highlights" series
[19:13] <flocculant> knome: re that - might be useful to have some sort of default layout for that media thing
[19:13] <knome> yep
[19:13] <knome> though i think we'll just do some kind of intro paragraph like for the xubuntu at... series
[19:13] <knome> and damn you
[19:14] <knome> you just reminded me of one feature i want to have for the website...
[19:14] <knome> basically:
[19:14] <flocculant> media player?
[19:15] <knome> sigh
[19:15] <knome> how do i explain this
[19:16] <knome> in WP, a user can write a biographical information for themselves
[19:16] <knome> i would like to allow turning a knob "on" for a specific blog article to show that
[19:16] <knome> in a standard way
[19:17] <knome> one of the questions is if that bio info should be copied as some meta field for the post when it's published for the first time
[19:17] <knome> because if the user changes their bio, it can get awkward
[19:17] <flocculant> so if QA wrote something - it'd have a qa bio?
[19:17] <flocculant> for example
[19:18] <knome> if you wrote something, it'd have your bio
[19:18] <knome> but that would be optional in my vision
[19:18] <flocculant> mmm
[19:18] <knome> so we could make sure the release announcement doesn't have a bio :P
[19:18] <knome> or a xubuntu at... article
[19:18] <flocculant> not sure how that adds much tbh
[19:19] <knome> currently, we haven't written many articles that would benefit from it
[19:19] <flocculant> which is probably why I don't see the benefit of it :)
[19:19] <knome> yeah
[19:20] <knome> http://xubuntu.org/news/xubuntus-default-theme-gets-a-refresh-for-quantal/
[19:20] <knome> that's one of them
[19:20] <knome> it's not *essential*, but there are times when i'd like it
[19:22] <knome> another idea is to just forget the user bio, and just add a new field that we can fill in
[19:22] <knome> but then it would kind of defeat the purpose of having it automated
[19:22] <flocculant> yea
[19:22] <flocculant> and unlikely to be used as much
[19:22] <knome> yes
[19:23] <knome> ok, enough babble
[19:23] <knome> bbl
[19:23] <knome> hf meanwhile :)
[19:23] <flocculant> cya
[19:23] <flocculant> likely tomorrow now - time to wander off
[19:25] <flocculant> akxwi-dave: in and out now, if I don't see you before I'll see you tomorrow PM
[19:26] <akxwi-dave> cya bud..
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[12:56] <Goudfazant3991> Hallo zijn er nog mensen aa nwezig?
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[14:41] <cmaloney> morning
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[04:51] <astroo-> ciao pessoal
[22:01] <astroo-> ola pessoal
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[00:06] <minasota> http://samuel-warde.com/2015/11/finally-the-cia-admits-covering-up-jfk-assassination/
[00:11] <minasota> nice Juzzy
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2015-11-27-#ubuntu-ir
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[16:18] <milford> -=
[16:20] <milford> wikipedia-fa
[18:54] <yesking> salam
[18:55] <yesking> kasi nist
[18:55] <yesking> komak mikham
[18:55] <yesking> من با استفاداه از نرم افزار yumi فایل iso اوبونتو رو روی فلش ریختم بعد روی لپ تاپ خواستم نصب کنم بع از نصب بالا اومد باهاش کار کردم بعدش هم خاموش کردم حالا اومدم روشن کنم روی صفحه ای که آرم اوبونتو هست و چهارتا نقطه پر میشه گیر کرده ... لطفا راهنما
[18:55] * yesking slaps lubotu3 around a bit with a large fishbot
[18:56] <yesking> kasi nist
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[12:21] <SergeyIT> утра, у некоторых снежного
[12:22] <svetlana> доброе утро
[12:22] <svetlana> сегодня ставила студенту emacs-snapshot ppa на ubuntu 14
[12:22] <svetlana> вроде как работает, в полноэкранном режиме открывается, студент рад
[12:23] <svetlana> он тут единственный линукс эвм притащил
[12:23] <svetlana> произносит название как "у бааан ту" (я раньше думала, что это "убунту")
[12:25] <SergeyIT> и на руках распальцовку показывает при этом?
[13:05] <tagezi> утра )
[13:06] <svetlana> утречко
[13:13] <SergeyIT> утра вечернего
[17:44] <andrex> ʊˈbuːntʊ
[17:44] <andrex> ночера
[17:44] <SmOkE_RU> Вечера
[17:44] <SmOkE_RU> =)
[19:32] <Sergey_IT> вечера
[19:47] <dmitriy>
[19:47] <Sergey_IT> не так громко
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[21:38] <synera99> exit
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2015-11-27-#launchpad-dev
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[03:56] <dupingping> hi everyone.
[03:56] <dupingping> How can i setup launchpad on my local server?
[09:15] <cjwatson> dupingping: https://dev.launchpad.net/Running - that's mainly for test instances though, if you plan to expose it to the world then you will want to talk over the details with us first since that's much harder to get right
[09:15] <dupingping> cjwatson: yes, let me try.
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2015-11-27-#ubuntu-il
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[13:05] <JoJo_> שלום
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2015-11-27-#ubuntu-it
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[00:04] <damiano> buona sera a tutti...ho una stampante epson xp-215 e non riesco a farla funzionare con ubuntu 12.04 sapete darmi qualche indicazione..grazie
[00:11] <damiano> cambio stampante
[08:13] <rohs> buh
[10:13] <ilovelinux> https://twitter.com/freenodestaff/status/670162459328684032
[10:20] <ExPBoy> ?
[10:20] <ExPBoy> ilovelinux, e a noi cosa interessa?
[10:20] <ilovelinux> Stanno netsplittando tutti
[10:21] <krabador> il network è instabile, grazie alla nullafacenza di bimbiminchia
[10:24] <ExPBoy> si ma cosa c'entra con il supporto?
[10:25] <ragnomalevolo> ciao giovani e vecchi, sto provando a usare xampp, ma ho un problema nell'avvio di apache e mysql, mi dice another web server is already running
[10:26] <YouNeverKnow> ragnomalevolo, c'è un utente , maxer, chiedi a lui
[10:26] <ExPBoy> ?
[10:27] <ragnomalevolo> non lo vedo
[10:33] <ragnomalevolo> qualcuno mi sa dire come fare?
[10:45] <ragnomalevolo> quando lancio apacha server su xampp mi dice "another web server is already running", mi sapete dire come fare?
[10:45] <jester-> 'ngiorno
[10:46] <ExPBoy> ragnomalevolo, se ti dice che hai già un web server attivo....
[10:46] <jester-> ragnomalevolo: devi cercare il servizio in esecuzione
[10:47] <ExPBoy> controlla i processi e vedi
[10:47] <jester-> ps -e
[10:53] <ragnomalevolo> come lo trovo?
[10:54] <ragnomalevolo> ho apache2 in esecuzione
[10:54] <ragnomalevolo> come lo fermo?
[10:54] <jester-> ragnomalevolo: sudo service apache2 stop
[10:57] <ragnomalevolo> quindi l'apache2 è diverso dall'apache di xampp?
[10:59] <jester-> saranno due servizi diversi
[11:00] <ragnomalevolo> non mi parte mysql
[11:00] <ExPBoy> ragnomalevolo, se fossero uguali avrebbero lo stesso nome
[11:00] <krabador> ragnomalevolo, ma hai una concezione di cio' che stai toccando ?
[11:01] <ExPBoy> ragnomalevolo, dicci cosa vorresti fare
[11:01] <krabador> ragnomalevolo, hai installato xammp, ti stai documentando a riguardo?
[11:03] <ragnomalevolo> sì ho la guida sottomano, non capisco perchè mnyo parte noql
[13:55] <luthor64> buon giorno a tutti
[13:56] <luthor64> qualcuno ha un attimo di tempo per darmi una mano?
[15:06] <doom_> salve ho questo problema con virtualbox :Virtualbox : Kernel driver not installed (rc=-1908)
[15:07] <doom_> uso ubuntu 14.04 con kernel 4.2.4
[15:07] <krabador> doom_, mi dispiace ma virtualbox non ci riguarda
[15:08] <doom_> ok grazie posso chiedere una latra cosa?
[15:08] <krabador> una latra no
[15:08] <krabador> ma un'altra si
[15:08] <doom_> un altro problema di ubuntu
[15:09] <krabador> doom_, se hai messo un kernel diverso da quello in stock con il sistema, possono candidarsi diverse tipologie di problematiche, dovute formalmente a quello
[15:10] <doom_> si ho messo un altro kernel
[15:10] <doom_> ma come faccio ha eliminare questo in uso e ritornare con quello che ancora non ho disinstallato
[15:11] <krabador> doom_, "<doom_> uso ubuntu 14.04 con kernel 4.2.4" ---> 14-04 , se alla versione 14.04.3 , ha un 3.19
[15:11] <krabador> doom_, sudo apt-get install pastebinit
[15:12] <krabador> doom_, dpkg -l | grep linux-image | pastebinit
[15:12] <doom_> http://paste.ubuntu.com/13527167/
[15:15] <krabador> doom_, dpkg -l | grep linux-headers | pastebinit
[15:15] <doom_> krabador dpkg -l | grep linux-headers | pastebinit
[15:16] <doom_> scusa http://paste.ubuntu.com/13527199/
[15:18] <krabador> doom_, sudo apt-get remove linux-headers-4.2.4-040204-generic linux-headers-4.2.4-040204 linux-image-4.2.4-040204-generic
[15:18] <krabador> e riavvii
[15:42] <doom_> krabador grazie per l'aiuto
[15:44] <krabador> doom_, di niente
[15:44] <richi86> salve ragazzi
[15:44] <krabador> !ciao | richi86
[15:44] <doom_> ho un altro problema : avevo disabilitato la password in account utente . gnome desktop
[15:45] <doom_> adesso però non va piu
[15:45] <richi86> krabador: non so se ti ricordi ma ieri sono stato qui per il problema d'installazione di ubuntu 15.10! tutto risolto grazie 1000
[15:45] <doom_> se
[15:45] <krabador> richi86, non va piu' nulla
[15:45] <utente_z> buonasera ragazzi
[15:45] <utente_z> ho un bel problema con ubuntu 15.10
[15:45] <krabador> !ciao | utente_z
[15:45] <Carlin0> utente_z, basta cloni eh
[15:45] <utente_z> qualcuno puo aiutarmi?
[15:46] <krabador> utente_z, se non chiedi non sai
[15:46] <richi86> krabador: no, funziona tutto benissimo!
[15:46] <Carlin0> zn4p & aloa = utente_z
[15:46] <utente_z> siamo in 2 amici dalla stessa rete
[15:46] <krabador> richi86, bene
[15:47] <krabador> utente_z,si, sei i 2 esseri in chat
[15:47] <utente_z> il mio amico ha installato ubuntu e non parte il touchpad
[15:47] <krabador> utente_z, o chiedi , o non ha senso
[15:47] <utente_z> abbiamo provato di tutto
[15:47] <krabador> utente_z, sudo apt-get install pastebinit
[15:47] <Carlin0> doom_, la pass l'hai solo disabilitata me è sempre quella che usi per sudo
[15:48] <krabador> utente_z, sudo lshw | pastebinit
[15:48] <richi86> krabador: anzi visto che ci sono posso chiedere come mai non funziona la conbinazione fn+ luminosità + e fn+luminosità -?
[15:48] <krabador> utente_z, lsb_release -a | pastebinit
[15:48] <krabador> richi86, beh, i tasti funzione posson avere problemi di compatibilità
[15:48] <krabador> in base al kernel
[15:49] <aloa> consiglio : asus f553m/ ubuntu 15.10 se dò xinput list non mi vede questo benedetto touchpad
[15:49] <aloa> aloa
[15:49] <aloa> dovrei risolvere con i driver synaptics che ho installato dal softwarecenter ma da terminale synclient dice Couldn't find synaptics properties. No synaptics driver loaded?
[15:49] <aloa> qualcuno può consigliarmi ? Grazie
[15:50] <doom_> il mio problema e questo: dopo aver disattivato il login con password , rendendo cosi l'accesso automatico,visto che già ho la password all'avvio di ubuntu avendo cifrato l'intero disco,ora se voglio disattivare l'accesso automatico,facendo tutta la procedura reinserendo la password,se esco dalla sessione oppure riavvio il sistema,mi trovo con la schermata di login davanti ma comunque cliccandoci sopra entro ugualmente senza password sia nella sessione di
[15:50] <doom_> gnome desktop che uso tuttora,e sia nella sessione con unity desktop che non uso mai.
[15:51] <doom_> ubuntu 14.04
[15:51] <krabador> doom_, è massimamente sconsigliato disabilitare la password di ingresso dall'account, in presenza della cifratura del disco
[15:51] <aloa> XD
[15:51] <krabador> doom_, crea un altro utente
[15:51] <richi86> krabador: sono gli unici a non funzionare! è una cosa risolvibile?
[15:52] <doom_> ho tutto il disco cifrato in lvm
[15:52] <Carlin0> doom_, anche cifrare non è consigliatissimo a meno che tu non abbia segreti tipo quelli della nasa
[15:53] <krabador> richi86, segnalami il modello del notebook per favore
[15:53] <krabador> aloa, non accetto privati , sono disabilitati , scrivi qui in canale
[15:54] <aloa> krabador chiedo scusa
[15:54] <aloa> consiglio : asus f553m/ ubuntu 15.10 se dò xinput list non mi vede questo benedetto touchpad
[15:54] <aloa> aloa
[15:54] <aloa> dovrei risolvere con i driver synaptics che ho installato dal softwarecenter ma da terminale synclient dice Couldn't find synaptics properties. No synaptics driver loaded?
[15:54] <aloa> qualcuno può consigliarmi ? Grazie
[15:54] <aloa> non va il touchpad
[15:55] <doom_> Krabador ho creato un altro utente ma ho tutti i dati e la configurazione sul primo utente
[15:55] <richi86> krabador: asus f555l i7 2ghz, 4 gb ram, nvidia 2 gb dedicati, 500 gb hd
[15:55] <krabador> doom_, accede , da quell'utente?
[15:55] <krabador> richi86, sudo apt-get install pastebinit
[15:55] <krabador> richi86, sudo lshw | pastebinit
[15:55] <doom_> si inserendo lapasswor
[15:55] <krabador> aloa, sudo apt-get install pastebinit
[15:55] <Carlin0> [16:47:56] <krabador> utente_z, sudo apt-get install pastebinit
[15:55] <Carlin0> [16:48:05] <krabador> utente_z, sudo lshw | pastebinit
[15:56] <krabador> aloa, sudo lshw | pastebinit
[15:56] <krabador> Carlin0, aloa è in 30 , è normale che non c'ha fatto caso
[15:56] <doom_> krabador non ho capito scusa in che senso accede da quell utente?=
[15:56] <krabador> l'hai creato, prova ad accedere da quell'utente
[15:56] <richi86> krabador: fatto, riavvio?
[15:57] <krabador> no, non devi riavviare, devi incollare qui il link prodotto dal secondo comando
[15:59] <aloa> http://paste.ubuntu.com/13527696/
[15:59] <richi86> riccardo@riccardo-X555LD:~$ sudo lshw | pastebinit
[15:59] <richi86> http://paste.ubuntu.com/13527671/
[15:59] <aloa> grazie per la disponibilità ragazzi
[16:01] <krabador> aloa, è una questione di avere un po' di pazienza
[16:01] <krabador> :)
[16:01] <aloa> :)
[16:01] <krabador> richi86, sudo gedit /etc/default/grub
[16:01] <aloa> che vuol dire sono in 30?
[16:02] <krabador> richi86, cambi questa linea GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT="quiet splash" , in questo modo GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT="quiet splash acpi_osi="
[16:02] <krabador> richi86, salvi , chiudi
[16:02] <krabador> richi86, sudo update-grub
[16:02] <krabador> richi86, riavvii
[16:03] <richi86> krabador: comprese le " finali?
[16:03] <krabador> si
[16:05] <doom_> krabador si mi fa entrare nel secondo utente che ho creato
[16:06] <doom_> ma non posso accedere a tutti i dati che ho nel primo
[16:07] <krabador> doom_, se non ha privilegi di amministrazione , è normale
[16:08] <krabador> aloa, puoi indicarmi il modello esattto del notebook?
[16:08] <aloa> asus f553m
[16:09] <doom_> krabador il nuovo utente l'ho creato dall'interfaccia account utente e ho selezionato amministratore
[16:10] <krabador> aloa, al momento hai attaccato un mouse?
[16:10] <aloa> si
[16:11] <aloa> http://paste.ubuntu.com/13527842/
[16:12] <Carlin0> doom_, con sudo nautilus accedi ai dati dell'altro utente ... occhio a cosa sposti o ti ritrovi di nuovo il problema di prima
[16:12] <Carlin0> se copi tutto sposti anche il problema
[16:13] <doom_> e quindi cosa devo spostare?
[16:14] <Carlin0> doom_, non ho idea di cosa abbia tu li ... evita di spostare le conf
[16:14] <Carlin0> !veggenti
[16:15] <Carlin0> azz manca il bot :P
[16:17] <doom_> exit
[16:20] <aloa> krabador???
[16:20] <aloa> krabador ???
[16:25] <aloa> ma sto sbagliando strada con synaptics o vado bene? perchè in realtà io il driver del touchpad l'ho scaricato dal sito della asus ed ho provato ad installarlo con wine ma ovviamente non è andato ...
[16:25] <aloa> può essermi utile il driver propietario?
[16:26] <krabador> non va installato con wine
[16:26] <krabador> il sistema non lo userà mai
[16:26] <krabador> se fai una cosa del genere
[16:26] <krabador> il driver win, funziona su win
[16:26] <aloa> hm infatti...
[16:26] <krabador> e basta
[16:27] <aloa> hm capito..
[16:27] <aloa> quindi come risolvo?
[16:27] <krabador> aloa, aspettando che lo supportino al meglio
[16:27] <krabador> visto che sembra essere afflitto da problemi noti
[16:29] <aloa> l'asus x552cl funziona tranquillamente ed ha riconosciuto subito tutto
[16:29] <krabador> anche su
[16:30] <krabador> sul mio , se è per questo
[16:30] <krabador> un numero nel modello non significa che sia la stessa cosa
[16:30] <aloa> http://wiki.ubuntu-it.org/Hardware/Periferiche/SynapticsTouchpad
[16:31] <aloa> ma non ho nemmeno la cartella xorg...
[16:32] <aloa> io ho solo installato synclient dal softcenter
[16:33] <doom_> krabador ho problemi con sudo nautilus http://paste.ubuntu.com/13528046/
[16:33] <aloa> credo che non ho compiuto tutti i tentativi a mia disposizione
[16:33] <krabador> aloa, xorg.conf non c'è piu' di base, da anni , in ubuntu
[16:33] <aloa> ahahah me ne sono accorto... ahaha
[16:34] <krabador> aloa, nell'ottica di usare configurazioni di quel livello, devi configurare tutto , poi , li dentro
[16:34] <aloa> ora c'è xwrapper ?
[16:34] <krabador> monitor, scheda video, eccetera
[16:35] <aloa> capito...
[16:36] <aloa> ma quindi quale dovrebbe essere il driver open che dovrebbe vedere il touchpad?
[16:36] <aloa> sottolineo "dovrebbe" xD
[16:37] <krabador> senti , mr "dovrebbe" , non tutto l'hardware va perfettamente su linux, per una questione antichissima di mancata collaborazione dei produttori hardware , che pensano a tutt'altro
[16:38] <krabador> aloa, il lavoro è completamente a spese degli sviluppatori open source, che devono fare reverse enginering , nella maggior parte dei casi , per far funzionare l'hardware
[16:39] <aloa> questione nota krabador... chiedevo solo quale fosse il driver che si occupa del funzionamento del driver , il dovrebbe era chiaramente ironico
[16:40] <aloa> siamo sempre grati a chi mette a disposizione della comunità la propia conoscenza
[16:40] <aloa> ripeto domandavo solo il nome del driver..
[16:41] <krabador> cat /proc/bus/input/devices | pastebinit
[16:42] <aloa> http://paste.ubuntu.com/13528185/
[16:44] <aloa> continua a non vederlo minimamente.. prima in live, debian ha riconosciuto subito tutto.. non posso sfruttare il driver di debian su ubuntu suppongo?
[16:45] <krabador> aloa, sudo apt-get update | pastebinit
[16:45] <krabador> aloa, ha un tasto di accensione , questo touchpad?
[16:45] <aloa> no purtroppo no..
[16:46] <krabador> aloa, controlla se c'è un fn
[16:46] <krabador> dedicato
[16:47] <aloa> i fn+f7
[16:47] <aloa> si*
[16:47] <krabador> prova a toccarlo , riavvia
[16:48] <aloa> ora le freccette corrispondo ad a b c d
[16:49] <krabador> split
[16:50] <aloa> di xinput list É lo stesso
[16:50] <aloa> problemi con la tastiera ed il mouse riavvio:::
[16:53] <xubu> buonasera. mi sa che ho un po' di problemi sul mio pc. il virtualbox mi da errore sul kernel e la proposta sudo /sbin/vboxconfig non produce alcun effetto.
[16:56] <doom_> Carlin0 come mi hai consigliato tu di usare sudo nautilus mi da problemi http://paste.ubuntu.com/13528046/
[16:57] <jester-> doom_: nautilus parte o no
[16:58] <doom_> jester nautilus parte ma si blocca ma non so cosa devo fare
[16:58] <doom_> non l'ho mai usato quel comando
[16:58] <jester-> doom_: quell'errore nel terminale è normale
[16:58] <jester-> dovresti usare gksu nautilus
[16:59] <jester-> gksu va installato
[16:59] <doom_> ok ma non so come usarlo
[16:59] <aloa> eccomi
[16:59] <jester-> doom_: usare cosa
[17:00] <doom_> jeste gksu
[17:00] <aloa> sono andati in pappa mouse e tastiera...
[17:00] <jester-> doom_: sudo o gksu nautius servono per scrivere files fuori dalla home
[17:02] <doom_> jester allora non ci sto capendo un h di quello che mi ha detto Carlin0
[17:03] <jester-> doom_: carlino ti avra detto di usare quel comando per un motivo, mica è un pirla che spara comandi a caso
[17:03] <aloa> ahahahahaha
[17:03] <doom_> jester io ho problemi con il login utente ho disattivato la password perche ho tutto il disco cifrato
[17:04] <jester-> doom_: il ico cifrato è una minchiata
[17:04] <jester-> va a mignotte ogni 2 per 3
[17:04] <jester-> doom_: quindi reinstalla senza cifrare la ome
[17:04] <doom_> jester non ho cifrato la home ma tutto il disco in lvm
[17:04] <aloa> jester- per caso hai seguito la mia conv prima? Postresti darmi un aiuto perfavore?
[17:05] <doom_> e non ho mai avuto problemi
[17:06] <doom_> jester per questo che avevo messo il login automatico
[17:06] <jester-> aloa: non ho seguito
[17:07] <xubu> ritento più tardi? mi sa che è meglio....
[17:07] <aloa> XD
[17:07] <xubu> bye bye
[17:08] <aloa> asus f553m problema : non vede il touchpad
[17:08] <jester-> aloa prova a dare synclient -l
[17:09] <aloa> xinpu list non lo vede, combinazione di tasti fn+f7 che pare abbia l'arcano potere di accenderlo mi manda in tilt mouse e tastiera
[17:09] <jester-> aloa prova a dare synclient -l
[17:09] <aloa> Couldn't find synaptics properties. No synaptics driver loaded?
[17:09] <jester-> aloa: sudo modprobe synaptics
[17:10] <aloa> modprobe: FATAL: Module synaptics not found.
[17:10] <aloa> ho installato synclient da SoftCenter
[17:11] <aloa> versione ubuntu 15.10
[17:11] <jester-> aloa: sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg-input-synaptics
[17:12] <aloa> done
[17:12] <aloa> ora?
[17:12] <jester-> aloa: sudo modprobe synaptics
[17:12] <aloa> modprobe: FATAL: Module synaptics not found.
[17:12] <aloa> ancora
[17:13] <jester-> strano
[17:13] <aloa> http://wiki.ubuntu-it.org/Hardware/Periferiche/SynapticsTouchpad#synclient
[17:13] <aloa> seguendo questa guida mi rendo conto di avere molte dipendenze mancanti
[17:14] <jester-> aloa: sudo modprobe synaptics-usb
[17:14] <aloa> dallo shm allo xorg
[17:14] <aloa> ok nessuna risposta
[17:14] <aloa> ma neanche errori di sorta
[17:14] <jester-> synclient -l
[17:15] <aloa> Couldn't find synaptics properties. No synaptics driver loaded?
[17:15] <jester-> aloa: sudo modprobe synaptics-i2c
[17:16] <jester-> synclient TouchpadOff=0
[17:16] <aloa> Couldn't find synaptics properties. No synaptics driver loaded?
[17:17] <jester-> sudo apt-get install gsynaptics
[17:17] <aloa> fatto
[17:18] <aloa> riprovato synclient
[17:18] <aloa> stesso risultato
[17:18] <jester-> adesso vai in configurazine sistema mause e tuochpad
[17:18] <aloa> ci sono
[17:19] <aloa> non lo vede
[17:19] <jester-> vedi se c'è qualcosa ma mi sa di un touchpad che usa driver che in linux non ci sono
[17:19] <aloa> niente..
[17:19] <jester-> aloa: che modello di pc è
[17:20] <aloa> asus f553m
[17:21] <aloa> provavo prima la live di debian che lo vedeva posso in qualche modo prendermi il driver da debian e portarlo su ubuntu?
[17:21] <aloa> o.O XD
[17:21] <jester-> aloa: sudo modprobe psmouse
[17:22] <aloa> done
[17:22] <jester-> aloa: a sapere che driver è ma i driver sono nel kernel
[17:22] <jester-> aloa: sudo modprobe psmouse
[17:22] <aloa> hm... infatti..
[17:22] <aloa> fatto
[17:22] <aloa> nessun errore
[17:22] <jester-> aloa: vedi se funza
[17:23] <aloa> nada...
[17:23] <jester-> aloa: sudo rfkill unblock all
[17:23] <aloa> benedetto touchpad!!!
[17:23] <aloa> nothing
[17:24] <aloa> nisba.. nada XD
[17:24] <jester-> aloa: gksudo gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[17:24] <jester-> aloa: http://wiki.ubuntu-it.org/Hardware/Periferiche/SynapticsTouchpad#synclient
[17:25] <jester-> incolla nel file la sezione dopo Il risultato finale dovrebbe esser simile a questo:
[17:25] <aloa> non ho lo xorg in x11
[17:25] <jester-> cosi lo crea ti apre un file vuoto
[17:26] <aloa> ok
[17:26] <jester-> se poi il sistema non parte dovrai cancellare il file da tty
[17:29] <aloa> ok quindi scusami
[17:30] <aloa> copio il codice da --> Configurare attraverso il file di configurazione dello X Server
[17:30] <aloa> tutto il codice del paragrafetto
[17:30] <aloa> ?
[17:31] <jester-> aloa: la parte sotto a il risultato dovrebbe
[17:32] <jester-> ection "InputDevice"
[17:32] <jester-> Identifier "Synaptics Touchpad"
[17:32] <jester-> Driver "synaptics"
[17:32] <jester-> Option "SendCoreEvents" "true"
[17:32] <jester-> Option "Device" "/dev/psaux"
[17:32] <jester-> Option "Protocol" "auto-dev"
[17:32] <jester-> Option "HorizScrollDelta" "0"
[17:32] <jester-> Option "SHMConfig" "on"
[17:32] <jester-> EndSection
[17:33] <aloa> sisi perfetto
[17:33] <aloa> copiata e salavata
[17:33] <jester-> salva e riavvia
[17:33] <aloa> ok a tra poco
[17:33] <aloa> in ogni caso grazie mille
[17:47] <aloa> hei jester- non mi faceva più connettere da ubuntu.org
[17:47] <aloa> sono entrato da un altra parte...
[17:47] <aloa> vabbè...
[17:47] <aloa> comunque niente non si muove
[17:48] <aloa> xinput non lo vede synclient continua a mandarmi a... XD e il touch dorme
[19:10] <neramarea> buonasera. come assegno un ip statico al mio pc? ho fastweb, hug pirelli. ubuntu 14.04.3. ho provato a seguire questa cosa qui: http://forum.ubuntu-it.org/viewtopic.php?t=191383 ma non ne vengo a capo. se sostituisco dhcp con manuale, e inserisco i dati corretti, mi vedo connesso ma non navigo. che DNS devo inserire?
[19:12] <krabador> neramarea, quello della tua compagnia
[19:12] <gigirock> neramarea, e il gateway... deve essere nella stessa subnet
[19:12] <neramarea> grrrazie, krabador... ma come lo individuo?
[19:13] <krabador> neramarea, vediamo se indovini chi puo' saperlo ?
[19:13] <krabador> senza punto interrogatico
[19:13] <krabador> *vo
[19:13] <krabador> ho pronto il link, in ogni caso.
[19:14] <neramarea> sono molto molto profano di reti e strutture...
[19:14] <neramarea> anzi, diciamo che non ne capisco una mazza
[19:15] <gigirock> dai neramarea ... allora il tuo pirelli che ip ti rilascia all'interno della lan ?
[19:16] <neramarea> gigirock da x.x.x.128 a x.x.x.134
[19:16] <gigirock> neramarea, all'interno ?
[19:16] <neramarea> sì
[19:17] <gigirock> ok il router che indirizzo ha ?
[19:17] <neramarea> x.x.x.1, ovviamente
[19:18] <gigirock> ah ok , allora tu puoi prendere indirizzo .2 gateway .1 e dns secondo me ancora .1
[19:18] <gigirock> maschera 255.255.255.0
[19:20] <neramarea> quindi non devo scegliere come ip uno tra quelli automatici?
[19:21] <gigirock> neramarea penso che sia programmato per dare da 128 a 256 via dhcp ... mentre da 2 a 127 per fissi
[19:21] <neramarea> ah
[19:21] <neramarea> tento questa via. attrappè.
[19:21] <gigirock> quindi puoi anche lasciare dhcp cosi quando arriva la tua fidanz con iphone si connette
[19:23] <neramarea> se lascio dhcp mi riassegna un ip ogni volta che mi connetto. l'unico dispositivo che funziona con un suo ip è la stampante, ma l'ho settato da stampante...
[19:24] <gigirock> neramarea, no se imposti nel pc che ip e' fisso ......
[19:24] <neramarea> A onor di cronaca, MAI una bettonella apple entrerà tra le mura di casa mia. fermacarte e fermaporte ne ho già a sufficienza.
[19:25] <neramarea> devo dare sudo /etc/init.d/networking restart o è necessario riavviare sessione o sistema?
[19:26] <gigirock> neramarea, io proverei con reboot
[19:26] <neramarea> k
[20:23] <Guest57587> ciao
[20:23] <Guest57587> un saluto a tutti è la mia prima volta su irc
[20:23] <Guest57587> avevo un quesito
[20:23] <Guest57587> ho appena preso il webcube lte di 3
[20:24] <Guest57587> in wireless si collegano tutti i dispositivi android
[20:24] <Guest57587> pero il laptop con ubuntumate in wireless non si collega
[20:24] <Guest57587> qualcuno ha idee?
[20:42] <krabador> Guest57587, vedi la sua connessione?
[20:44] <Guest57587> genera una rete wifi
[20:44] <Guest57587> mi chiede la password di accesso
[20:44] <krabador> Guest57587, la visualizzi nell'elenco reti?
[20:44] <Guest57587> si
[20:45] <Guest57587> mi chiede la chiave di crittografia
[20:45] <krabador> la inserisci correttamente?
[20:45] <Guest57587> gliela inserisco ma sta li a pensare
[20:45] <krabador> reboot
[20:45] <krabador> per me
[20:45] <Guest57587> fatto
[20:45] <Guest57587> aggiornamenti fatti
[20:46] <Guest57587> connessione a router wireless senza problemi
[20:46] <Guest57587> a quel cazzo di cubo no
[20:46] <Guest57587> la partizione con windows in wireless funziona correttamente
[20:46] <giallo1> buonasera ragazzi
[20:46] <Guest57587> ciao
[20:46] <giallo1> ho un problema con ubuntu che e' una cagata ma non riesco a risolvere
[20:46] <giallo1> qualcuno puo aiutarmi?
[20:47] <Guest57587> scrivi del problema
[20:47] <Carlin0> esponi il problema giallo1 e se qualcuno sa ...
[20:47] <giallo1> allora ... in poche parole .. smanettando su compiz manager qualcosa
[20:48] <giallo1> ho selezionato decorazione cartelle
[20:48] <giallo1> mi dava un avviso
[20:48] <giallo1> l'ho trascurato
[20:48] <giallo1> e sbam .. spariti louncpad e barra in alto
[20:48] <giallo1> launcpad
[20:48] <giallo1> ho solo il desktop con una cartella
[20:49] <giallo1> ho spento e riacceso... niente da fare
[20:50] <giallo1> posso navigare nelle cartelle e aprire il terminale col tasto destro
[20:50] <giallo1> niente piu
[20:52] <giallo1> non so che fare
[21:49] <salvo> buona sera
[21:50] <salvo> ho un pc AMD Phenom (tm) 9650 quad - Core processor x 4
[21:50] <salvo> 32 bit
[21:50] <salvo> a cui ho montato in una partizione l'ubuntu 14.04 lts
[21:50] <salvo> e da due giorni che continuamente si spegne
[21:51] <salvo> ho tirato una foto in una schermata nera dove dice che ho un bug
[21:51] <salvo> mi potete aiutare a capire
[21:51] <salvo> ed anche a risolvere?
[21:52] <salvo> ultimamente ho montato una scheda video Radeon hd 5450
[21:53] <salvo> potrebbe essere lei la causa dei problemi?
[21:55] <salvo> https://www.filepicker.io/api/file/ohlWxOTPRt4cT5snKgaT
[21:55] <salvo> questa e la schermata
[21:55] <salvo> nera
[21:56] <Carlin0> salvo, e prima che scheda vide avevi ?
[21:56] <salvo> quella di seri edel computer
[21:57] <salvo> vga 210
[21:57] <salvo> di 1gb
[21:59] <salvo> la partizione con windows 7 non me la riconosce e mi da che ho una scheda vga
[22:04] <krabador> salvo, che chipset c'è nella scheda madrei che usi per questa cpu?
[22:04] <salvo> non saprei e un pc che ha almeno 7 anni
[22:05] <krabador> e che scheda madre c'è lo sai?
[22:05] <krabador> salvo, e che sistema stai usando lo sai=
[22:05] <krabador> ?
[22:05] <salvo> ubuntu 14.04 lts
[22:06] <salvo> il pc e un HP
[22:06] <krabador> salvo, sudo apt-get install pastebinit
[22:06] <krabador> salvo, sudo lshw | pastebinit
[22:06] <salvo> con una scheda AMD PHENOM X4
[22:06] <mikeit> ciao a tutti
[22:07] <Carlin0> [22:55:38] <salvo> https://www.filepicker.io/api/file/ohlWxOTPRt4cT5snKgaT
[22:07] <krabador> salvo, non è una scheda.
[22:07] <krabador> !ciao | mike67
[22:08] <salvo> http://paste.ubuntu.com/13534132/
[22:08] <mikeit> qualcuno è ferrato su ipv6 su ubuntu?
[22:09] <Carlin0> mikeit, prova a chiedere
[22:11] <mikeit> volevo sapere se è possibile e come bloccare l'auto generazione del link local address con eui64 al riavvio della scheda di rete
[22:12] <mikeit> ho provato con sysctl ecc ma ....
[22:13] <krabador> salvo, ci sono problemi col chipse
[22:14] <krabador> salvo, questo sistema adesso sta funzionando, come?
[22:14] <salvo> mi sono trovato benissimo fino a due giornifà
[22:14] <salvo> avuto un po di problemi ma sporadici
[22:15] <salvo> ogni tanto va in cresc ma roba di poco
[22:15] <salvo> invece ora e piu frequente
[22:15] <krabador> va in cresc?
[22:15] <krabador> grande
[22:15] <salvo> si spegne e poi si accende
[22:15] <krabador> ti invidio
[22:15] <salvo> oppure si blocca la schermata
[22:15] <krabador> io ho visto sistemi che vanno in crash
[22:15] <krabador> ma in cresc mai
[22:16] <salvo> si scusate
[22:16] <salvo> io l'inglese non lo frequento molto
[22:16] <salvo> heheheheheh
[22:17] <krabador> salvo, quando e come hai installato questo sistema?
[22:17] <salvo> con una chiavetta
[22:18] <salvo> ho scaricato l'ubuntu e poi l'ho installato
[22:18] <Carlin0> mikeit, hai dato una occhiata qui ? https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IPv6
[22:19] <krabador> salvo, allora , riavvia la macchina, ed in grub seleziona la seconda opzione dall'alto
[22:19] <krabador> poi il penultimo kernel cronologicamente in ordine
[22:19] <krabador> vedi cosa fa
[22:19] <salvo> ok
[22:20] <mikeit> Carlin0 lo letti tuttiiiiiiii!!!!!!!!!!
[22:21] <krabador> mikeit, che entusiasmo.
[22:23] <mikeit> no e perche sul web non riesco a trovare niente :-)
[22:24] <mikeit> krabador dici anche meno è
[22:25] <mikeit> entusiasmo dico
[22:25] <Carlin0> mikeit, ma a che pro bloccare la cosa ?
[22:25] <salvo> rieccomo
[22:25] <salvo> rieccomi
[22:26] <salvo> ho fatto come mi hai detto tu
[22:26] <mikeit> no sto sperimentanto un po per prendere padronanza (cert ccna)
[22:27] <mikeit> Carlin0 non ce un vero e proprio motivo
[22:27] <Carlin0> capito
[22:33] <mikeit> caveat, si capisco
[22:34] <salvo> come si fà per vedere il contenuto della chat regresso?
[22:35] <krabador> salvo, se ha usato un client, le ultime tot righe appaiono
[22:35] <krabador> se da web non puoi
[22:35] <Barrnet> Pongo un quesito: Ho un pc con Windows 10 che non può effettuare alcuno spegnimento regolare poiché non si avvia in maniera regolare e si blocca. Se volessi ridurre la sua partizione per installarci a fianco ubuntu, pur mantenendo leggibili i dati in tale partizione, come potrei fare?
[22:35] <Barrnet> salvo: puoi leggerli dai log pubblici
[22:35] <Barrnet> irclogs.ubuntu.com
[22:36] <salvo> Krabador ho eseguito quello che mi hai detto tu
[22:36] <salvo> cosa devo fare adesso?
[22:36] <krabador> salvo, come va la macchina?
[22:36] <krabador> vedi come funziona
[22:36] <krabador> Barrnet, non prima di un certo tempo
[22:37] <salvo> se va bene devo fare sempre lo stesso procedimento?
[22:37] <krabador> Barrnet, ri riferisce a cose dette appena adesso, il log ci mette un po' ad essere consultabile
[22:37] <krabador> salvo, no, sudo apt-get update | pastebinit
[22:37] <krabador> adesso
[22:37] <Barrnet> Ah ok, ma penso che già dopo un ora la chat sia loggata xD Comunque ero appena entrato e non avevo capito il contesto della domanda
[22:38] <salvo> http://paste.ubuntu.com/13534539/
[22:43] <krabador> salvo, hai ppa offline
[22:43] <krabador> che hanno sminchiato il processo di update
[22:44] <salvo> possiamo risolvere?
[22:44] <krabador> Barrnet, per la tua domanda, puoi caricare ubuntu in live
[22:44] <krabador> Barrnet, apri gparted, e fai quello che ti pare con le partizioni, stando ovviamente attento
[22:45] <krabador> !gparted
[22:45] <krabador> Barrnet, http://gparted.org/display-doc.php?name=help-manual&lang=it
[22:46] <krabador> salvo, ls -la /etc/apt/sources.list.d | pastebinit
[22:46] <salvo> http://paste.ubuntu.com/13534635/
[22:47] <krabador> salvo, cat /etc/apt/sources.list | pastebinit
[22:48] <salvo> http://paste.ubuntu.com/13534657/
[22:50] <krabador> salvo, "deb http://www.fbreader.org/desktop/debian stable main"
[22:50] <krabador> che stracavolo ci fa la dentro ?
[22:50] <krabador> senti salvo , fai prima a ripristinare
[22:51] <salvo> come ripristino?
[22:51] <krabador> ricarica la pendrive, inizia la procedura di installazione, quando ti chiede dove installare , seleziona "altro" seleziona la root dell'attuale, sistema , ti assicuri che non sia spuntata la formattazione , vai avanti, crei, durante la procedura di installazione un altro utente
[22:52] <krabador> con un nome diverso da quello che usi adesso
[22:52] <krabador> in modo da avere /home/vecchioutente e /home/utente
[22:52] <krabador> porti i dati da una parte all'altra, et voilà,
[22:53] <salvo> speriamo che tutto vada bene
[22:54] <salvo> grazie Krabador
[22:54] <krabador> se la spunta della formattazinoe
[22:54] <krabador> non c'è
[22:54] <krabador> tutto andrà bene.
[22:54] <salvo> ok
[23:01] <Barrnet> Krabador, ma con le partizioni lockate da windows 10 non avrò problemi?
[23:01] <Barrnet> Come si ridimensiona una partizione già so farlo, ma già ubuntu live mi monta la partizione in sola lettura
[23:06] <salvo> Krabador posso installare l'ultima versione di ubuntu la 15.0?
[23:06] <salvo> e dato che il mio pc e 64 bit
[23:06] <salvo> la versione a 64 bit?
[23:09] <salvo> dato che Krabador ha lasciato la chat
[23:10] <salvo> la domanda e rivolta ai rimanenti
[23:10] <salvo> graize
[23:44] <Barrnet> si
[23:45] <cristian_c> ?
[23:45] <plm_> salve a tutti. sto cercando di installare ubuntu server su un mio microserver domestico e vi chiedo: il sistema è meglio installarlo su disco o su chiavetta usb?
[23:45] <cristian_c> Barrnet: ola
[23:46] <Barrnet> disco
[23:46] <plm_> ubuntu server 14.04.03
[23:46] <cristian_c> plm_: disco
[23:47] <plm_> per la tabella delle partizioni: faccio fare tutto di default su intero disco?
[23:47] <cristian_c> senza neanche pensarci
[23:47] <plm_> ok. grazie della dritta, lancio subito il comando.
[23:49] <plm_> ok, mi dice "selezionare il disco da partizionare" e mi propone il primo dei due dischi mirroring.
[23:49] <plm_> faccio le solite partizioni (/ swap e /home)? proporzioni?
[23:50] <plm_> cristian_c? Barrnet?
[23:51] <Barrnet> quanti gb di ram hai?
[23:51] <plm_> 16
[23:51] <Barrnet> non è obbligatorio separare /home e /root, però è meglio farlo.
[23:51] <Barrnet> tieni 8-16GB di swap
[23:52] <Barrnet> non credo che ibernerai il server, no? :P
[23:52] <plm_> non ho mai installato una versione server... quanto spazio serve per la /root?
[23:52] <plm_> hihihi il server mi servirà sempre attivo :D
[23:54] <plm_> 16gb li dono volentieri alla swap (sono dischi red da 3tb) :D
[23:58] <plm_> di default propone 1Mb libero; 1Mb biosgrub; 2.8Tb ext4; 17Mb swap, 1Mb libero. in pratica non divide /home e root.
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ubuntu-chat
|
2024-05-13T22:11:19.496190
| 2015-11-27T00:00:00 |
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2015-11-27-#ubuntu-es
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[01:57] <deybyd> porque no me puedo conectar al canal #lubuntu-es ?
[02:03] <roger_35> porque Se llegó al límite de usuarios).
[02:04] <deybyd> ohh :c
[18:52] <Atiros> mejor programa para sniffer
[18:54] <roger_35> ???
[18:55] <Atiros> cual es el mejor programa para la interpretación de paquetes de redes aparte de wireshark
[19:12] <kk-kk> como accedo desde una maquina de virtualbox directamente a un hub de mi pc? no a un dispositivo especifico, sino al hub
[19:34] <kk-kk> como accedo desde una maquina de virtualbox directamente a un hub de mi pc? no a un dispositivo especifico, sino al hub, lo que quiero es que desde una maquina virtual con windows pueda acceder a una entrada usb de mi pc fisico, para que asi pueda reconocer un celular apagado, para hacer una actualizacion
[19:37] <kk-kk> quiero actualizar un celular desde una maquina virtual con windows
[19:37] <Xavier89> kk-kk
[19:38] <Xavier89> pone el usb del celular
[19:38] <Xavier89> a la maquina virtual
[19:40] <DELLtra> kk-kk, instalaste el pack de virtualbox para poder hacer uso de los puertos usb
[19:42] <DELLtra> en configuracion de la maquina virtual puedes agregar los dispositivos fisicos conectados a la maquina virtual
[19:42] <kk-kk> si, pero el programa pide que lo coloque apagado y asi no lo reconice
[19:43] <successus> salud, hasta otro rato o/
[19:46] <DELLtra> kk-kk, entonces no se como le vas hacer.. perdona pero no tengo idea de como hacerlo
[20:04] <mariano> hi
[20:05] <kk-kk> hola
[20:05] <mariano> hola
[20:06] <mariano> tengo un problema creo yo que es bastante simple quizas alguno pueda ayudarme
[20:07] <kk-kk> dale, cual es?
[20:07] <mariano> Tengo una laptop Toshiba la cual luego de reactivarse de una suspención una serie de lineas de error aparecen en modo texto y no puedo llegar a leerlas ya que desaparecen muy rapidas. Quisiera saber si hay alguna forma de poder verlas
[20:12] <teboote> que manera de haber gente aquí
[20:13] <kk-kk> busca el archivo /var/log/pm-suspend.log o uno con nombre parecido en el mismo directorio
[20:21] <mariano> gracias!
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ubuntu-chat
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2024-05-13T22:11:19.506149
| 2015-11-27T00:00:00 |
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2015-11-27-#ubuntu-us-wi
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[18:20] <tsimonq2> IvanR_: hey, I wanted to ping you to say hello
[18:21] <tsimonq2> IvanR_: because I have noticed you in here, but you haven't spoken much
[18:21] <tsimonq2> IvanR_: so hello
[18:48] <tsimonq2> o/ mikeputnam3
[22:29] <FastJaguar> Hello!
[22:29] <tsimonq2> Heyo!
[22:30] <tsimonq2> nice nick! :D
[22:30] <tsimonq2> FastJaguar: look at this
[22:30] <FastJaguar> It's my game name if I don't use gunnarjag
[22:30] <FastJaguar> wait what
[22:30] <tsimonq2> FastJaguar: when I type part of your nick and press Tab, it's called pinging
[22:31] <tsimonq2> in my client, it highlights my name when I am pinged
[22:31] <FastJaguar> tsimonq2:like this?
[22:31] <tsimonq2> yep! :D
[22:31] <FastJaguar> ahh
[22:31] * tsimonq2 is happy
[22:31] <tsimonq2> this is another little jem
[22:31] <tsimonq2> /me is what this is
[22:31] <FastJaguar> *likethat
[22:31] <FastJaguar> ah
[22:31] * FastJaguar Is learning
[22:31] <tsimonq2> yay :D
[22:32] <FastJaguar> heh
[22:32] <FastJaguar> any other notable commands?
[22:32] <tsimonq2> so okay, let's get you registered so nobody can steal your nick
[22:32] <tsimonq2> umm not really
[22:32] <tsimonq2> excpt for if you want to join a new channel, you do /join #channelname
[22:33] <tsimonq2> *except
[22:33] <FastJaguar> ok
[22:33] <tsimonq2> FastJaguar: so let's get you registered
[22:33] <FastJaguar> ok
[22:33] <tsimonq2> FastJaguar: now do this: /msg nickserv register YourPassword [email protected]
[22:34] <tsimonq2> oh yeah, /msg is to message someon e
[22:34] <tsimonq2> *someone
[22:34] <tsimonq2> it opens up a new window
[22:34] <tsimonq2> (not in your browser, in the client)
[22:34] <FastJaguar> done
[22:35] <tsimonq2> so then check your email
[22:35] <FastJaguar> brb completing registration
[22:35] <tsimonq2> and do that too
[22:35] <tsimonq2> ok
[22:35] <FastJaguar> done
[22:35] <tsimonq2> ok, so do /msg nickserv identify FastJaguar PASSWORD
[22:36] <tsimonq2> replacing your password with the password that you typed
[22:36] <FastJaguar> I like the password I started with though
[22:36] <FastJaguar> should Ichange it?
[22:36] <tsimonq2> yeah, that is what you use
[22:36] <FastJaguar> okay
[22:37] <tsimonq2> umm no, the randomly generated password was just for registration
[22:37] <FastJaguar> oh
[22:37] <FastJaguar> I already set that
[22:38] <tsimonq2> ok, good
[22:38] <FastJaguar> it said I was already logged in as FastJaguar
[22:38] <tsimonq2> ok, good
[22:38] <tsimonq2> but when you log in later, you have to check the little box that says Password and type that in
[22:38] <tsimonq2> you saw that when you were picking a username, no?
[22:38] <FastJaguar> yeah
[22:39] <tsimonq2> ok, so do that in the future
[22:39] <tsimonq2> so it looks like you are set up
[22:40] <tsimonq2> something optional is to have a cloak, which hides your IP
[22:40] <tsimonq2> you can see what I mean by doing the following
[22:40] <FastJaguar> ok
[22:40] <tsimonq2> do /whois tsimonq2
[22:40] <tsimonq2> then do /whois FastJaguar
[22:40] <tsimonq2> and look next to the username
[22:40] * tsimonq2 thinks
[22:41] <FastJaguar> ah
[22:41] <FastJaguar> so that's my IP?
[22:41] <tsimonq2> the numbers? yeah
[22:41] <FastJaguar> yeah
[22:41] <tsimonq2> and mean DDoSers can wreck it
[22:41] <FastJaguar> aww :(
[22:42] <tsimonq2> they can make your whole family's internet be slow
[22:42] <FastJaguar> yeah
[22:42] <tsimonq2> so I would join #freenode and ask for a cloak there
[22:42] <tsimonq2> so do /join #freenode
[22:43] <FastJaguar> k
[22:44] <FastJaguar> Just ask?
[22:44] <tsimonq2> yep,
[22:47] <tsimonq2> FastJaguar: well, I didn't know THAT
[22:47] <tsimonq2> FastJaguar: I think you can just deal for now, right?
[22:47] <tsimonq2> ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
[22:48] <FastJaguar> yeah
[22:48] <FastJaguar> G-ma doesn't need internet, right ?
[22:48] <tsimonq2> :D
[22:48] <tsimonq2> it doesn't matter
[22:48] <tsimonq2> just don't piss anyone off
[22:49] <FastJaguar> or depending on the person, exist
[22:49] <tsimonq2> FastJaguar: I just wanna point out a few things. While in this channel, we have a few guidelines(that you haven't broken so far, thank god).
[22:49] <tsimonq2> people on IRC aren't THAT stupid
[22:49] <FastJaguar> ok
[22:49] <tsimonq2> FastJaguar: read the topic for them, just be sure to read them over
[22:50] <tsimonq2> FastJaguar: I have op, so if anything looks worded weird, let me know
[22:50] <tsimonq2> FastJaguar: or if we have a link that doesn't work
[22:51] <FastJaguar> Ok. Who else is on here?
[22:52] <tsimonq2> h00k, Anthony Hook, who was the contact before me
[22:52] <FastJaguar> ok
[22:52] <tsimonq2> he is still active, and by pinging him, I say hello
[22:52] <tsimonq2> just do /names and you will see all of them
[22:53] <tsimonq2> meetingology, ubuntulo12, and lubotu1 are our friendly bots
[22:53] <meetingology> tsimonq2: Error: "ubuntulo12," is not a valid command.
[22:53] <tsimonq2> heheheheheheh
[22:54] <tsimonq2> FastJaguar: so #phillwis another room I am in, friendly people, annoying dictators, the usual
[22:54] <tsimonq2> *#phillw
[22:54] <FastJaguar> alright
[22:55] <tsimonq2> FastJaguar: as well as #lubuntu-offtopic and ##tsimonq2
[22:55] <tsimonq2> FastJaguar: and support channels for pretty much ANY piece of technology you own
[22:55] <tsimonq2> so feel free to join where you want
[22:56] <tsimonq2> FastJaguar: but this is how you would interact with the stream
[22:56] <FastJaguar> alright
[22:57] <tsimonq2> so yeah :D
[22:57] <tsimonq2> just chillllllllllll
[22:57] <tsimonq2> and follow the rules
[22:57] * tsimonq2 cracks his whip
[22:57] <FastJaguar> alright
[22:58] <tsimonq2> oh yeah, and #forthenerds
[22:59] <tsimonq2> FastJaguar: I idle in like 40 channels. That means I have a terminal client on a remote server and I just use the terminal to access it when I am online
[22:59] <tsimonq2> FastJaguar: so I am here pretty much 24/7 if you need to leave me a note :D
[22:59] <FastJaguar> ok!
[23:00] <tsimonq2> ok! as in shaht awp, or ok! as in Awesome!
[23:00] <FastJaguar> Awesome!
[23:01] <tsimonq2> cool! :D
[23:01] <tsimonq2> FastJaguar: kinda hard to convey tone in here! :P
[23:02] <FastJaguar> yeah, my sarcasm turns into buttholishness
[23:02] <tsimonq2> :D
[23:03] <tsimonq2> and I would say to you:
[23:03] <tsimonq2> !language
[23:03] <FastJaguar> ok
[23:03] <FastJaguar> I can do that
[23:04] <tsimonq2> cool :)
[23:04] <tsimonq2> so have fun :D
[23:05] <FastJaguar> ok!
[23:05] <FastJaguar> as in I will XP
[23:05] <tsimonq2> FastJaguar: this is what Ubuntu is: http://www.ubuntu.com/about/about-ubuntu
[23:05] <FastJaguar> yep
[23:06] <tsimonq2> (and btw, when being in any channel that belongs to the organization, you have to follow the CoC here: http://www.ubuntu.com/about/about-ubuntu/conduct )
[23:06] <tsimonq2> FastJaguar: ^
[23:06] <tsimonq2> ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
[23:06] <tsimonq2> but that shouldn't be much of an issue
[23:06] <FastJaguar> yeah
[23:06] <FastJaguar> seems pretty basic
[23:08] <tsimonq2> but look it over just in case
[23:08] <tsimonq2> ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
[23:08] <FastJaguar> I have
[23:08] <tsimonq2> ok, good :D
[23:10] <tsimonq2> FastJaguar: just to let you know, in some non-Ubuntu-run channels, people swear, so be careful if you aren't okay with that
[23:10] <FastJaguar> ahh
[23:11] <FastJaguar> I'm known as sir swears-alot normally
[23:11] <tsimonq2> :D
[23:11] <FastJaguar> alreday had to censor myself
[23:11] <FastJaguar> already
[23:11] <tsimonq2> join #lubuntu-offtopic, I wanna show you something
[23:11] <tsimonq2> :D
[23:12] <tsimonq2> (/join #lubuntu-offtopic BTW)
[23:12] <FastJaguar> yeah
[23:13] <FastJaguar> taking a while
[23:15] <tsimonq2> oh, ok :)
[23:15] <tsimonq2> maybe close the window and try again
[23:15] <tsimonq2> (the one in Kiwi, not the broswer)
[23:15] <FastJaguar> I'm banned?
[23:16] <tsimonq2> oh, let me ask an op quick
[23:16] <tsimonq2> probably Kiwi
[23:17] <FastJaguar> gtg soon
[23:17] <tsimonq2> ok, try ##tsimonq2
[23:17] <tsimonq2> so /join ##tsimonq2
[23:22] <tsimonq2> ;roulette
[23:22] <DragonEyes> *click*
[23:22] <tsimonq2> ;ping | h00k
[23:22] <DragonEyes> h00k: I pinged you on purpose
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ubuntu-chat
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2024-05-13T22:11:19.521598
| 2015-11-27T00:00:00 |
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2015-11-27-#juju
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[09:18] <jamespage> dosaboy_, https://code.launchpad.net/~hopem/charms/trusty/swift-storage/support-rsync-acl/+merge/278424 +1
[09:27] <dosaboy_> jamespage: ta, minor nit i have to fix in the template then i'll land it
[09:27] <jamespage> dosaboy, awesome-o
[09:27] <jamespage> dosaboy, thankyou for picking that one up - much appreciated
[09:29] <dosaboy> jamespage: heh yeah only took a few months for to finally get it done ;)
[09:30] <dosaboy> jamespage: we can always add it the extras on top, iptables rules, pwds etc
[09:31] <dosaboy> jamespage: you +1 on the -proxy mp too?
[09:31] <jamespage> dosaboy, probably - link?
[09:33] <dosaboy> jamespage: https://code.launchpad.net/~hopem/charms/trusty/swift-proxy/support-rsync-acl/+merge/278426
[09:33] <dosaboy> jamespage: they need to land in tandem
[09:36] <jamespage> dosaboy, one needs fixing on that one
[09:38] <dosaboy> jamespage: ack
[09:49] <dosaboy> jamespage: fixed
[16:14] <roadmr> hey jujuers, with an impending Juju release in the horizon perhaps https://bugs.launchpad.net/juju-core/+bug/1519994 could use at least a glance-over?
[16:14] <mup> Bug #1519994: leader-elected hook never fires <juju-core:New> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1519994>
[18:25] <jacekn> is it possible to write a charm that can be deployed as a principal service but in other environments as subordinate?
[19:11] <roadmr> hey juju people. How would I go about getting logs for specific units from the master? juju debug-log has this tendency to block if the log is very short. Is juju ssh $unit_name sudo cat /var/log/juju/unit-${unit_tag}.log the best way?
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ubuntu-chat
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2024-05-13T22:11:19.526327
| 2015-11-27T00:00:00 |
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2015-11-27-#xubuntu
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[11:11] <ubikite> hi, i'm trying to prevent monitor from sleeping. i've tried inserting a bash script with set of xset commands inside ~/.config/autostart/filename.desktop file; no changes when execute xset q command. i'm declaring my DISPLAY variable properly. i've tried removing xfce4-power-manager package and still the monitor goes to sleep. any suggestions? ideas?
[11:20] <ubikite> ok, seems i've solved it. you have execute parameters in just one command like /usr/bin/xset -display ":0.0" -dpms s noblank
[13:19] <xubuntu150> h
[13:19] <xubuntu150> hi
[16:02] <rauldipeas> Hey guys, anyone can help me with Compton on Xubuntu 15.04?
[16:03] <GeekDude> 15.10 has been interesting. I put it on a spare desktop that had graphical issues with previous versions requiring me to use nomodeset to get to the desktop. In 15.10 it just works :)
[16:04] <GeekDude> However, WINE 1.7 does not appear to be "just work"ing. I installed a missing package using a deb from wily and it installed, but it refuses to draw the program to the screen. Other programs such as winecfg seem to work, however
[16:05] <GeekDude> I'm tempted to blame the graphics card
[16:07] <GeekDude> card/chipset
[16:29] <GeekDude> Huh, who would've guessed. Works in the officially supported wine1.6 build from the repos
[16:33] <GeekDude> Not perfectly, but it does work
[16:48] <taza79> Hello, how can i install xubuntu without touching the mbr and windows boatloader?
[16:49] <ikonia> same way I told you in #ubuntu
[16:49] <Luyin> :D
[16:50] <taza79> i'm asking everywhere maybe some guy will give me the perfect solution :D
[16:50] <ikonia> there isnt one
[16:50] <ikonia> as I've just told you in #ubuntu
[16:50] <ikonia> but the overhead makes it easier to just manage the MBR cleanly
[16:50] <ikonia> it's possible, sure
[16:50] <taza79> i asked because i once saw a youtube video and the guy was showing how to do it
[16:51] <ikonia> then why are you asking how to do it ?
[16:51] <ikonia> just use his guide
[16:51] <ikonia> but it will hit the same problems I explained in #ubuntu
[16:51] <taza79> because i can't find the video it was a long time ago
[16:52] <ikonia> something has to live on the MBR
[16:52] <ikonia> it can be whatever you want, but whatever you use must be able to point at the play you put grub to be able to boot ubuntu
[16:52] <taza79> the noboot option in grub install is it a solution for me?
[16:53] <taza79> noinstallboot or something like that
[16:53] <ikonia> no
[16:53] <ikonia> because then there will be nothing to boot ubuntu
[16:54] <taza79> two mbr is impossible?
[16:54] <ikonia> yes
[16:54] <ikonia> a disk can only have 1 mbr
[16:54] <ikonia> hence "master" boot record
[16:55] <taza79> easybcd works with windows 10 and new ubuntu?
[16:56] <ikonia> why would you use that ?
[16:56] <ikonia> that is just going to put easyboot on the MBR
[16:56] <taza79> http://askubuntu.com/questions/561254/install-ubuntu-14-04-1-lts-without-losing-windows-7-bootloader
[16:56] <ikonia> which if you're going to do that, just put grub on the MBR and make it simpler
[16:56] <ikonia> you still lose it
[16:56] <ikonia> as whatever you use to control the boot - will live on the MBR
[16:59] <taza79> i understand i'm just trying to do an impossible thing
[16:59] <ikonia> then stop
[16:59] <ikonia> and confirm to the real world
[16:59] <ikonia> conform
[16:59] <taza79> yes
[17:00] <taza79> the thing is i'm tring to avoid dvd repair things
[17:00] <taza79> easybcd is it better for me since i want to avoid dvd repair?
[17:00] <ikonia> no
[17:00] <taza79> like restoring the mbr with easycd and then remove ubuntu
[17:00] <ikonia> you could simpley take a backup of the windows boot sector before you install ubuntu and restore it if you ever want to delete ubuntu
[17:02] <taza79> do you have a good tutorial on how to backup windows boot sector?
[17:03] <ikonia> dd if=/dev/sda of=/where/you/want/to/put/it.bin bs=512k count=1
[17:05] <taza79> thanks for your replies
[17:09] <genii> I might use .mbr extension instead
[17:14] <ikonia> call it whatever you're happy with
[20:06] <xubuntu46i> Hey
[20:06] <xubuntu46i> I am new to Xubuntu
[20:06] <knome> hello
[20:12] <GeekDude> ...
[20:12] <GeekDude> his enthusiasm is overwhelming
[21:19] <xubuntu59w> hello is there any body ??
[21:20] <flocculant> I've got one
[21:22] <xubuntu59w> if i upgrade from 12.04 to 14.. i m not going to lose my sys? bc im a non pae
[21:23] <SlidingHorn> !upgrade | xubuntu59w
[21:23] <xubuntu59w> my machine is a ibm t42 ..
[21:24] <xubuntu59w> so you say no fear to upgrade to 14..
[21:24] <flocculant> xubuntu59w: hang on
[21:24] <flocculant> those pages don't make any reference to pae that I can see
[21:25] <xubuntu59w> i love my xubuntu and dont want to use another one ..
[21:26] <flocculant> xubuntu59w: do you know what processor it has?
[21:27] <xubuntu59w> intel 1.8
[21:27] <xubuntu59w> ram 1 gb
[21:28] <function9x> if it's working well, I'd leave it as it is
[21:28] <function9x> until you upgrade your pc
[21:30] <xubuntu59w> function9x you mean buy a new one... this ibm is very expensive i bought it 6 years ago.
[21:31] <xubuntu59w> i will follow on what you say but what can i do with message upgrade from my sys
[21:31] <flocculant> and you're sure it's not got pae?
[21:31] <knome> function9x, except that 12.04 is EOL and there is no support for it.
[21:33] <xubuntu59w> thnaks flocculant.
[21:33] <function9x> knome: what's the minimum specs requirement for 14?
[21:34] <flocculant> xubuntu59w: just a quick check of the processor for a t42 appears to show it's pae
[21:35] <xubuntu59w> flocculant where did you get that info or how can i know is that ok?
[21:36] <flocculant> xubuntu59w: try running this in a terminal grep pae /proc/cpuinfo
[21:36] <flocculant> does it show up?
[21:37] <xubuntu59w> i got Permission denied
[21:38] <flocculant> grep pae /proc/cpuinfo
[21:38] <flocculant> for that?
[21:40] <xubuntu59w> do not show anything
[21:40] <function9x> bbl
[21:40] <flocculant> xubuntu59w: ok - just making sure
[21:41] <xubuntu59w> dont worry and thanks
[21:41] <flocculant> given that I would not try and upgrade, it might be possible, but I don't know for usre
[21:41] <flocculant> but you are now unsupported so you need to deal with that somehow
[21:43] <xubuntu59w> ################### PC INFORMATION - cpu ##################### ################### Press CTRL + C to exit ##################### CPU: Single core Intel Pentium M (-UP-) cache: 2048 KB speed/max: 1000/1800 MHz grep pae /proc/cpuinfo
[21:44] <flocculant> what's that?
[21:44] <xubuntu59w> thats what i got from my sys ans
[21:44] <flocculant> grep pae /proc/cpuinfo |pastebinit
[21:44] <xubuntu59w> and no info from grep
[21:45] <flocculant> ok
[21:45] <SlidingHorn> xubuntu59w, run this and give us the link: grep pae /proc/info | pastebinit
[21:45] <flocculant> might not have pastebinit installed though
[21:45] <xubuntu59w> uhmm.
[21:47] <flocculant> uhmm what?
[21:49] <xubuntu59w> i going to chk it. thanks for your help,
[21:51] <xubuntu59w> good luck..
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[00:09] <diddledan> fun ranting on "BSD Now" this week
[00:10] <daftykins> is that family friendly? :P
[00:10] <diddledan> lol
[00:14] <zmoylan-pi> the family that bsd's together stays together... oo-err... :-P
[00:14] * diddledan BSDs zmoylan-pi .. sideways
[00:32] <daftykins> crikey, it's not high end but - http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B00S9Q9VS4
[00:34] <daftykins> 240GB SSD £39.99 for mainlanders
[00:34] * zmoylan-pi remembers when i could fit my data onto storage that small...
[00:35] <daftykins> fine for an OS disk :>
[00:36] <zmoylan-pi> true, but i've just started bumping my dumbphones up to 32gb for music, video and ebooks as 16gb each on 3-4 devices doesn't cut it anymore...
[00:38] <daftykins> that reminds me, i pulled a couple of 2GB memorystick 2 cards out of sony ericssons i was playing with yesterday :D
[00:40] * zmoylan-pi remembers using my nokia n70 with 1gb card. 900mb music, 50mb ebooks with space for photos...
[00:41] <daftykins> hah
[00:42] <zmoylan-pi> absolute lifesaver when i went into hospital for an xray and ended up there for 2 weeks
[00:44] <zmoylan-pi> kept me nice and distracted...
[00:44] <daftykins> i'm amazed i didn't get told off for using mine in intensive care
[00:44] <daftykins> i was busy in a heated call with a lady friend who was giving me grief for not asking how long i'd be in, whilst some poor anaesthetist was waiting to have a word
[00:45] <daftykins> :)
[00:45] <diddledan> the ol' ball n chain :-p
[00:46] <diddledan> s/lady friend/ol' ball n chain/
[00:46] <zmoylan-pi> nurses were worried that i never had visitors till i pointed out i was on email, web, twitter, reading, listening to music, comedy and fm radio. ended up showing them how to use the phones they already had
[00:46] <diddledan> lol
[00:46] <daftykins> XD
[00:47] <daftykins> i couldn't even SSH/RDP home on the free wifi ;_;
[00:47] <daftykins> guys the new enya album is on sale!
[00:47] <daftykins> :D
[00:48] <zmoylan-pi> i was using prepay data at €1 for 50mb a day which using opera mini and google reader lasted all day
[00:49] * zmoylan-pi looks at ssd advert from before and sees you could save 6 quid and get 120gb storage instead of 240... what a saving!!
[00:49] <daftykins> 8D
[00:49] <zmoylan-pi> by grabthars hammer!!
[00:50] <daftykins> that SSD could be pretty good in that cheap Lenovo i ordered, already got a buyer too :>
[00:51] <daftykins> doubt that thing has space for two at once though, that'd be nice
[00:51] <zmoylan-pi> superglue it to back of screen for cool hacker look :-P
[00:53] <daftykins> could always pop out the optical i guess ;)
[00:57] <zmoylan-pi> but then you'd have to download instead of rip everything!!
[00:58] <daftykins> not me!
[00:59] <daftykins> pesky amazon deals tempting me, i should leave it be really
[01:09] <diddledan> by grabthar's hammer. by the sun's of warvan. you shall be avenged.
[01:10] <diddledan> suns**
[01:10] <m0nkey_> Good evenin
[01:10] <daftykins> i have no idea of either of those :>
[01:10] <zmoylan-1i> watch galaxy quest
[01:11] <m0nkey_> ^-- awesome movie
[01:11] <diddledan> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r7bo_A6XnUU
[01:11] <zmoylan-pi> WHAT'S MY NAME?! :-D
[01:12] <daftykins> my friends in walmart in Texas picking up cheap games on the Black Friday deals 8D
[01:12] <daftykins> visiting in Feb so i get cheap things \o/
[01:20] <zmoylan-pi> which you then have to get onto an airplane. 'honestly mr. tsa man it's only 50 rasp pis and a lot of cables..., why are you putting on gloves?'
[01:24] <daftykins> "why are you lubing up"
[01:49] <diddledan> fun bit about git in this video at 19 minutes: https://www.usenix.org/conference/lisa15/conference-program/presentation/mickens
[02:12] <daftykins> my drill just went flat starting another pane! https://www.dropbox.com/s/rlx8t1dofrshep8/IMG_20151127_020955.jpg?dl=0
[02:14] <zmoylan-pi> drilling at 2am?
[02:15] <daftykins> yeah it's only quiet :>
[02:15] <daftykins> i normally don't even vacuum at anti-social hours, so it's all good
[02:21] <diddledan> roger, roger, check for clearance, clarence, what's your vector, victor, over.
[02:21] <daftykins> i really would like it if battery tech suddenly had some major jump overnight :>
[02:22] <diddledan> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fVq4_HhBK8Y
[02:22] <daftykins> multi-day laptops and month long smartphones would be ace
[02:22] <diddledan> nokia
[02:22] <daftykins> nah, they weren't smart :P
[02:22] <zmoylan-pi> i had a psion that lasted a week on 2 aa batteries in 90s
[02:23] <daftykins> still got my 3c somewhere :>
[02:26] <zmoylan-pi> we need to move to using arm processors in laptops for more power savings
[02:27] <zmoylan-pi> better screens. like the olpc screen for power savings
[02:27] <daftykins> nah, then everything'd perform like a glorified calcula... netbook :)
[02:29] <zmoylan-pi> instead of laptops that use stupid amounts of power to generate heat using inefficient design
[02:48] <Seeker`> zmoylan-pi: lies
[02:48] <Seeker`> zmoylan-pi: MIPS not ARM
[02:56] <zmoylan-pi> as long aas it's not x86
[03:25] <m0nkey_> Happy Thanksgiving! http://i.imgur.com/IbJ1zMq.jpg
[03:26] * zmoylan-pi remembers a pancake tuesday that had a pancake stuck to a 20ft high ceiling...
[03:26] <zmoylan-pi> but we never took risks with pressure cooker...
[03:34] <BambooBear> Helloo :)
[03:40] <m0nkey_> before anyone asks, not my place. just some random picture i found :)
[03:43] <ali1234> wow, what happened?
[03:43] <ali1234> that's some pretty impressive damage
[03:43] <zmoylan-pi> lloks like a faulty or badly used pressure cooker
[03:44] <daftykins> mmm remember that one
[03:44] <m0nkey_> I'm out
[03:44] <m0nkey_> G'night all
[03:44] <zmoylan-pi> o/
[07:27] <knightwise> morning everyone
[07:28] <knightwise> morning
[07:28] <knightwise> exit
[08:16] <moodoo> hello al
[08:18] <zmoylan-pi> that's very specific :-)
[08:25] <moodoo> alas a typo lol
[08:27] <zmoylan-pi> al will be devestated to read that :-)
[08:28] <moodoo> hehe
[09:03] <davmor2> Morning all
[09:13] <moodoo> morning davmor2
[09:14] <davmor2> moodoo: why all the lower case dude?
[09:21] <MooDoo> davmor2: no idea! ;)
[09:22] <davmor2> MooDoo: Oh you're back
[09:22] <davmor2> will the real MooDoo please stand up, please stand up, please stand up
[09:23] <MooDoo> :)
[09:30] <andylock1an> hey fella
[09:30] <andylock1an> how's things?
[09:54] <czajkowski> Good morning
[09:56] <directhex> is it? :|
[10:02] <czajkowski> it is
[10:02] <czajkowski> it's Friday
[10:02] <popey> It is freaking excellent.
[10:03] <czajkowski> it is really!
[10:03] <foobarry_> anyone manage to snag a magpi mag?
[10:05] <JamesTait> Good morning all; happy Friday, and happy Systems Engineer Day! 😃
[10:08] <SuperMatt> morning
[10:11] <SuperEngineer> morninks SuperMatt
[10:24] <popey> wheee
[10:31] <Seeker`> popey: rollercoaster?
[10:32] <popey> ya
[10:32] * Seeker` was talking about net connection speeds, and remembered when popey got superfast broadband for the first time, but couldn't work out why he wasn't getting full speed
[10:32] <Seeker`> and then you found the 10Mbit switch :P
[10:32] <popey> :)
[10:32] <popey> that was fun
[11:36] <MooDoo> ah ddod against freenode servers, no wonder i'm getting lots of lag
[11:42] <foobarry> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fTaKDnSIb4c
[11:42] <foobarry> just cried with laughter
[12:07] <directhex> why is unity-control-centre not listing chrome as a browser option?
[12:46] <foobarry> google-chrome?
[14:23] <arsenip> lso
[14:26] <MooDoo> ?
[14:38] <SuperEngineer> little sqirrels only?
[14:38] <diddledan_> surely it's london symphony orchestra
[14:38] <wizzkidd> im in a little predicament, my headless ubuntu server seems to have hung but is partially accessible. Can anyone help me remotely reboot the server? I can ping the box still, I can no longer ssh to the box, I can start a xrdp session, but it freezes at authentication. I have webmin installed which is accessible, but I cannot get to the "restart" section. Has anyone got any ideas?
[14:40] <daftykins> not webmin on ubuntu i hope.
[14:41] <daftykins> plug a keyboard in -> ctrl+alt+del :>
[14:41] <daftykins> oh i see you crossposted that.
[14:41] <diddledan_> webmin?!
[14:41] <diddledan_> eep
[14:42] <daftykins> not even supported :P
[14:42] <diddledan_> it's not even in the repo IIRC
[14:42] <diplo> they have their own
[14:43] <daftykins> pesky amazon taking all my money, BSG full set was £60 down from £160 just earlier :(
[14:43] <diddledan_> :-p
[14:43] <zmoylan-pi> vhs or betamax? :-)
[14:43] <awilkins> CAll me when Babylon 5 is cheap
[14:43] <diddledan_> zmoylan-pi: laserdisc
[14:44] <wizzkidd> ignoring the fact i have webmin, is there any advice out there, i'll discuss webmin and its recommended alternative afterwards! lol
[14:44] <daftykins> i already suggested something
[14:44] <diddledan_> wizzkidd: I believe we were talking about the merits of webmin because 1) we don't know a solution, or 2) we thought daftykins's suggestion was most appropriate
[14:45] <wizzkidd> daftykins: thanks, but a sensible solution, because if I had physical access to the box at the moment, I would have bounced it myself already.
[14:46] <awilkins> Does the box have a lights-out card?
[14:46] <wizzkidd> diddledan_: re: webmin, i threw that in the description of my problem because its one of the few remaining ways I have left to communicate with the box
[14:46] <wizzkidd> awilkins: unfortunately not
[14:46] <daftykins> wizzkidd: it is sensible, we just can't read your mind to know your setup...
[14:47] <daftykins> i think you're up a creek without a paddle
[14:47] * diddledan_ rows
[14:47] <wizzkidd> daftykins: it seems so. I thought i'd put it out there anyway as there is always a slim chance that someone may suggest something I havent thought of
[14:48] <daftykins> so is it co-lo or what?
[14:48] <awilkins> Yeah, if there was a simple way to reboot Linux boxes without having SSH access or another service designed to let you do that... people would use it to ruin your day
[14:48] <wizzkidd> awilkins: fair point
[14:48] <diddledan_> awilkins, wizzkidd, you could try DDoSing it to see if you can force it to reboot by magic :-p
[14:48] <daftykins> although if webmin has a URL to hit to enact a reboot, perhaps rather than needing to reach the restart section of its' UI, you can just paste in the link direct?
[14:49] <daftykins> i don't have a clue about webmin though so that's a total guess
[14:49] <diddledan_> if it was windows 95 I believe there was a packet of death for that?
[14:49] <wizzkidd> diddledan_: that was the sort of thing i was thinking. lol. i already searched through all the cached urls typed into my browser, lol
[14:50] <wizzkidd> diddledan_: wasn't it something like con>con or something like that in win 95? wow, thats going back a bit
[14:52] <daftykins> wouldn't an example be available online?
[14:52] <wizzkidd> ok, so... i've gathered that there is a bad smell with regards to installing webmin on ubuntu. Care to fill me in? My guess is its vulnerable or something?
[14:52] <diddledan_> it's had a bad history of breaking stuff afaik
[14:53] <daftykins> !webmin
[14:53] <diddledan_> ^ that
[14:53] <wizzkidd> oooww
[14:53] <wizzkidd> i did notice that systemd management wasn't included
[14:53] * diddledan_ petpet the bot
[14:54] <zmoylan-pi> out of the mouth of bots...
[14:54] <wizzkidd> ok, so with that said, is there an alternative gui web service that can be used to manage the server remotely?
[14:54] <diddledan_> despite all the derision levied at systemd for shoehorning everything into it counter to the "do one thing well" philosophy, I actually quite like it
[14:54] <diddledan_> zmoylan-pi: *fart*
[14:56] * zmoylan-pi schedules diddledan_ for re-education camp come the revolution...
[14:57] <diddledan_> ooh
[14:57] <diddledan_> is that fun?
[14:57] <diddledan_> like bandcamp?
[14:57] <awilkins> Your best avenue is probably to find a human in the vicinity who can poke the reset switch.
[14:57] <zmoylan-pi> you'll love pascal :-)
[14:57] <diddledan_> remote-hands ftw
[14:58] <daftykins> remote jazz hands!
[14:58] <awilkins> Quadcopter drone with a poking stick
[14:58] <diddledan_> lol
[14:58] <zmoylan-pi> a server power switch seeking drone...
[14:58] <diddledan_> what about an RPG?
[14:59] <diddledan_> that'll knock it offline.. the reboot part may be a bit too much to expect tho, I guess
[14:59] <daftykins> my wealthy client is apparently getting a top end DJI Phantom drone with Sony 4K camera attached for Christmas
[14:59] <diddledan_> daftykins: :-o
[14:59] <daftykins> i actually find the things stupid, but eh
[14:59] <diddledan_> daftykins: get him to pay you monies!
[14:59] <daftykins> haha
[15:00] <davmor2> diddledan_: oh you mean nethack
[15:00] <daftykins> no doubt i'll end up doing something with the video
[15:00] <zmoylan-pi> see how good it stands up to a supersoaker :-)
[15:00] <daftykins> i told him he'd need a new screen to watch the video 1:1 ;)
[15:00] <diddledan_> davmor2: I was thinking more the explosive kind rather than the dungeon kind
[15:01] <daftykins> XD
[15:01] <davmor2> 0a.d.
[15:01] <diddledan_> nethack is badly named.. not only is it offline, but you're not cracking things either
[15:02] <daftykins> w... what on earth do you do in it then o0
[15:02] <diddledan_> daftykins: well certainly you don't hack the net
[15:03] <zmoylan-pi> you run around wishing it was rogue :-)
[15:04] <zmoylan-pi> and then pray you never see a D
[15:04] <diddledan_> hmm, it should be payday today
[15:06] <wizzkidd> any suggestions as an alternative to webmin guys?
[15:06] <daftykins> nope i always suggested doing it the proper way so you never forget, depends how senior you are though
[15:07] <daftykins> the other day we had some kid come in trying to set up an ecommerce site with nginx that couldn't even get the site working... can only imagine how safe those transactions are gonna be
[15:12] <davmor2> popey: the lego pic is that a site thing, if so I'd be more impressed if you could tell it a size and it gave you a parts list and plan, lego jigsaws ftw
[15:16] <popey> heh, no it's a python script which takes any image and makes one of those
[15:20] <davmor2> popey: I reckon there has to be a way to make that into a real image and then build it up with a hook at the back to hang it or a stand a frame :D
[15:23] <Seeker`> but you're not cracking things either
[15:23] <Seeker`> ^ skulls maybe
[16:12] <daftykins> diddledan_: that win10 install size compression, does it do it automatically on that Surface of yours yet, or still a manual task?
[16:13] <diddledan_> it was already done when I tried to force it
[16:13] <daftykins> ooh neat
[16:13] <daftykins> could be auto then
[16:13] <diddledan_> that was way back near the original release, too, so I guess the RTM 10240 build did it automatically
[16:14] <daftykins> very nice :>
[16:14] <daftykins> got my 10586 build on a flash drive so i'm set for that Surface 4 showing up
[16:14] <daftykins> right, i need to go enquire at the post office how to send a phone to England without being clobbered for tax at the other end
[16:33] <mapps> well reset router still cant login
[16:33] <mapps> emailed umee and no reply;(
[16:39] <daftykins> what are you wanting to do, change the wifi name + pass?
[16:54] * diddledan_ upgrading gentoos again
[16:56] <daftykins> does that mean blasting it out of a cannon? i hope so :>
[16:56] <davmor2> diddledan_: cheaper than a heater
[16:56] <daftykins> the folk in #kodi get really offended and take it so personally when i laugh that they're having issues getting simple things going because they're using gentoo or arch
[16:56] <diddledan_> lol
[16:57] <daftykins> but i mean honestly, gentoo on an HTPC? talk about wrong tools for the job :P
[16:57] <daftykins> "sorry guys we can't watch the film i have to recompile Kodi"
[16:58] <diddledan_> you could put the compilation output on the TV and say to your kids "here, kids, watch the matrix"
[16:59] <daftykins> :)
[17:04] <brobostigon> :)
[17:34] <diddledan_> it's too cute: https://twitter.com/cutesyapp/status/659536419761889281
[17:34] <DJones> My dog says "ooh, breakfast" :)
[17:35] <diddledan_> grr
[17:35] <DJones> Yeah, that was the 2nd noise the dog made
[17:36] <daftykins> :D
[17:38] <davmor2> DJones: is that after you said no my breakfast
[17:39] <DJones> There's only one breakfast that is real, full english
[17:43] <daftykins> gah still getting Deborah's sky subscription emails
[17:43] <daftykins> i phoned them up and they told me they can't tell their customer they've got the wrong email signed up on their account due to 'data protection'
[17:45] <DJones> daftykins: Maybe email them and tell them you'll charge them £50 per unsolicited emaail
[17:45] <daftykins> :D
[17:46] <daftykins> worth a go!
[17:46] <penguin42> daftykins: If they've got your email signed up to it, can't you do a password reset on the account and they'll send the email to your account?
[17:46] <DJones> I did it with with some spam I was getting from a well known reputable business that had a similar situation and the emails stopped pretty quickly
[17:47] <penguin42> a respectable business?
[17:47] <DJones> Didn't get any money out of it, but at least the spam stopped
[17:47] <daftykins> penguin42: hmm, not familiar with the sky site but that might work yeah; unless it requires a member ID or some such for login
[17:47] <diddledan_> I'd hack the account as penguin42 suggests and then close it down :-p
[17:47] <DJones> penguin42: As in a well known supermarket
[17:47] <daftykins> DJones: ah nice!
[17:47] <daftykins> i've done it with a few folks in the US that didn't honour my contact discussion
[17:48] <daftykins> one lady was using me as a personal spam filter the first once or twice, then i reset her accounts and cancelled her orders.
[17:48] <daftykins> one day i got an email explaining why her orders had been cancelled :)
[17:48] <daftykins> that was very entertaining
[17:59] <DJones> Must admit, mine was with somebody from the US
[19:12] <davmor2> I got a set of head hunters where you reply remove and nothing else and it removes you my butt does it, so I might go for the £50 idea with them :)
[19:13] <daftykins> hehe
[19:14] <daftykins> one guy i know is so energetic about his spam blocking that i've been asked to find out why he's not receiving legitimate things before, only to find he's put them on his block list
[19:38] <pwaring> davmor2: I've found that the 'remove me or pay £50/email' line gets the attention of most recruiters
[19:38] <pwaring> Whereas 'please take me off your list' doesn't
[19:58] <mapps> hi
[19:58] <mapps> so why cant i get in this routers config gah;/ wanted to port forward so can access my vpn :/
[20:27] <penguin42> mapps: Have you considered it might just be spite on the part of the router?
[20:32] <wizzkidd> i have messed up some files on my ubuntu server 15.10. I incorrectly symlinked some "libz*" files, then unlinked them, and now my system is throwing up "segmentation fault" errors. I am not able to boot the server any longer, and I have managed to get to a root prompt using the recovery option in the grub menu. It seems Python is broken i think, and "libz.so.1" cannot be found either. I am unable to run any apt-get command b
[20:34] <penguin42> wizzkidd: messy, you need a way to copy a file from another machine - or a live boot
[20:34] <penguin42> wizzkidd: Have you got a 15.10 live boot drive?
[20:35] <wizzkidd> penguin42: i have the 15.10 boot usb that i used to install the OS, im guessing that should have a live boot option
[20:35] <penguin42> wizzkidd: I think there's a recovery option in it, but I doubt it will fix that
[20:36] <penguin42> wizzkidd: But, boot, mount your servers hard drive and copy it's libz.so.1 into the right place
[20:36] <penguin42> wizzkidd: If you're lucky that'll be enough for you to clean up properly
[20:37] <wizzkidd> penguin42: im struggling to boot from the damn usb at the moment arghhh
[20:38] <penguin42> wizzkidd: Ah, well it's either that, or if you've got another 15.10 system use a usb stick or something to copy the file
[20:39] <wizzkidd> penguin42: ive only got just the one ubuntu box, i'll keep trying to get this thing to boot from usb.
[20:39] <wizzkidd> penguin42: would a recovery repair the sym links?
[20:40] <penguin42> wizzkidd: I doubt it - do you know what you screwed up?
[20:40] <penguin42> wizzkidd: Do you still have /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/linuz.so.?.?.?
[20:40] <wizzkidd> i believe i was following various guides on installing PILL for Ubuntu 15.10
[20:42] <wizzkidd> it was explaining that debian uses a different location, hence creating the sym links
[20:42] <penguin42> do you still have that file on the system?
[20:42] <wizzkidd> i though i created the link incorrectly and so i unlinked some of the .so files, and thats when it went wrong
[20:42] <wizzkidd> errrr...
[20:43] <penguin42> sorry, that should end in libz.so.?.?.? where ?.?.? the numbers depend on your install
[20:43] <wizzkidd> i have lots of files still in /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/
[20:43] <penguin42> for me it's /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libz.so.1.2.8
[20:44] <wizzkidd> but i dont see "linuz.so"
[20:44] <penguin42> wizzkidd: Sorry I typo'd that
[20:44] <penguin42> wizzkidd: Do you have the libz.so. with the numbers after it
[20:44] <wizzkidd> yes, i have a file called libz.so.1.2.8
[20:45] <wizzkidd> it has no link
[20:45] <penguin42> excellent - what does ls -lz of that file show ?
[20:45] <penguin42> actually, drop the z
[20:45] <penguin42> just ls -l
[20:46] <wizzkidd> it doesnt have a "->"
[20:46] <penguin42> great
[20:47] <penguin42> wizzkidd: Now, which file do you think you messed up?
[20:47] <wizzkidd> ummm
[20:47] <wizzkidd> i think it was in /usr/....???
[20:47] <penguin42> ok, try a different question - what error do you get?
[20:47] <wizzkidd> i'll search my url history to see if i can find the guide i was following
[20:48] <wizzkidd> libz.so.1: cannot open shared object file
[20:48] <wizzkidd> i used to have a file called "libz.so.1", that seems to be missing from /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/
[20:49] <penguin42> wizzkidd: OK what does ls -l /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libz.so.1 show ?
[20:49] <wizzkidd> No such file of directory
[20:50] <penguin42> great, ok do the following command
[20:50] <penguin42> wizzkidd: ln -s libz.so.1.2.8 /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libz.so.1
[20:54] <wizzkidd> aghh, it threw me the error "Segmentation fault"
[20:54] <penguin42> the ln did ?
[20:54] <wizzkidd> yeah
[20:54] <penguin42> then you've got something else broken other than the libz
[20:55] <wizzkidd> damn it
[20:55] <wizzkidd> "apt-get" gives me the same error
[20:56] <wizzkidd> these were the symlinks i created when I broke it all, i think...
[20:56] <wizzkidd> sudo ln -s /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libz.so.1 /lib/
[20:56] <wizzkidd> sudo ln -s /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libfreetype.so.6 /usr/lib/
[20:56] <wizzkidd> sudo ln -s /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libjpeg.so.62 /usr/lib/
[20:57] <wizzkidd> i think it actually broke when i performed "unlink" on all 3
[20:57] <penguin42> it seems unlikely the freetype or jpeg broke stuff to the point of giving them segs
[20:58] <wizzkidd> i remember it dying in the middle of doing an apt-get straight after: sudo apt-get build-dep python-imaging
[20:59] <wizzkidd> could it be that those 2 packages were somehow only partially installed when it died, causing python to break too?
[21:01] <penguin42> difficult to tell, ln -s should have very few dependencies
[21:11] <wizzkidd> this is painful
[21:13] <wizzkidd> penguin42: i will persevere trying to boot from the live usb and see if there is a repair option. In the mean time, i will rebuild my server in a VM, and take a snapshot as I go along, then once I am happy I will P2V it. It may sound a little long winded, but hopefully this way I'm more resilient.
[21:17] <wizzkidd> I meant V2P :)
[21:19] <foobarry> what's that app a bit like youtube-dl but acts like a poor mans spotify?
[21:19] <foobarry> ah mps-youtube i think
[21:26] <daftykins> crikey :P
[21:26] <daftykins> tough times when you've gotta bypass an ad supported service foobarry ;)
[21:29] <diddledan_> what's going in in colorado?
[21:29] <diddledan_> http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-34950261
[21:29] <foobarry> heh, wanted to download audio to listen to on mp3 player
[21:30] <penguin42> diddledan_: Some things are saying it's an abortion clinic
[21:30] <diddledan_> penguin42: "planned parenthood"**
[21:31] <diddledan_> "so you can plan more effectively, we offer free terminations" o_O
[21:32] <daftykins> shouldn't it be "unplanned parenthood planned" ?
[21:32] <diddledan_> daftykins: you'dathunk
[21:32] <diddledan_> I'm not opposed to abortions, but calling it "planned parenthood" kinda seems like false advertising
[21:33] <diddledan_> "hello Doris, in for your monthly?"
[21:33] <daftykins> that's quite the early 20th century name choice :>
[21:35] <diddledan_> :-p
[21:35] <diddledan_> it was the first I could come up wiht
[21:35] <diddledan_> obviously my offspring will have terrible names
[21:36] <diddledan_> maybe I should have one of each and call them Boris and Doris
[21:37] <daftykins> oh i am reminded of a question to ask of you mainlander folk
[21:37] <daftykins> is it actually a thing, to encounter undesirables speaking such street language as "fam" to address one another within the cities?
[21:38] <diddledan_> I wouldn't know, I'm posh :-p
[21:38] <daftykins> :D
[21:38] <daftykins> too posh to even meet up with our dear shauno :(
[21:38] <daftykins> who we still haven't asked back
[21:41] <diddledan_> I figure he'll slink back in eventually
[21:41] <daftykins> i've extended an olive branch nonetheless
[21:41] <daftykins> but i kinda want the olives back
[21:45] <penguin42> hmm, have I missed any useful retailers searching for bargains?
[21:48] <daftykins> you can't go wrong with http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B00S9Q9VS4 sir
[21:49] <penguin42> that is tempting, not that I really need one
[21:50] <daftykins> neither did i, but that doesn't seem to be what these pesky deal days are about :(
[21:51] <daftykins> hmm some friends that bought a place recently could probably do with a powerline kit since they don't have any proper infrastructure
[21:51] <penguin42> yeh in principal I can think of a couple of places I could put an SSD
[21:52] <daftykins> i mean it's obviously low end, but it's still MLC NAND which is nice
[21:52] <diddledan_> wow, a friend just posted that up norf they've got an ASDA store with petrol under a pound per litre
[21:53] <daftykins> thems Guernsey prices :P
[21:53] <penguin42> diddledan_: Apparently they're doing it as a black friday thing
[21:53] <diddledan_> bah
[21:53] <diddledan_> that's sucky
[21:54] <daftykins> quick drive up north to get some ;)
[21:54] <penguin42> but I think it's not much more than that at the moment anyway is it? Only about 104? (I'm not a driver)
[21:55] <daftykins> penguin42: ^5 me neither!
[21:55] <diddledan_> it's about 109.9 here (varies but that's the average)
[23:42] <penguin42> daftykins: Dabs have the 120GB Sandisk for 26.97 (one/customer - 34.97-#8 voucher code)
[23:42] <daftykins> same "plus" model SSD? crikey
[23:43] <daftykins> ty sir
[23:43] <penguin42> daftykins: https://www.dabs.com/products/120gb-ssd-plus-sata-6gb-s-2-5--solid-state-drive-B23F.html
[23:44] <daftykins> wow! i had the amazon 240GB model for £33 delivered :D
[23:45] <penguin42> daftykins: yeh so I've spent 37 on one of the 120GB's, a couple of #1.80 4GB uSDs and 2x2.98 16GB thumb drives
[23:46] <daftykins> did you miss the amazon one?
[23:46] <penguin42> no, but since 120 is enough, it's #6 cheaper!
[23:46] * penguin42 was going to buy 2 but the discount code only worked for one
[23:47] <daftykins> :)
[23:47] <daftykins> d'aww
[23:53] <daftykins> i really need to change those RAID notifications, i keep thinking i have a friend at midnight on Fridays :P
[23:53] <penguin42> it tells you when it's going in to check?
[23:55] <daftykins> starting a verify, then the result when complete if all is well
[23:56] <daftykins> if not, a nice spam of bad sectors / sector remaps / port resets / etc :)
[23:56] <penguin42> it would be better not to know until about 9am on Monday morning
[23:58] <daftykins> precisely!
[23:59] <daftykins> that's what i've said to myself and yet done nothing about it for ages
[23:59] <daftykins> in fact lets sort it :)
[23:59] <daftykins> i did once agonise over it all weekend when someones had a bad disk
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[12:51] <stevieh> freakyy: bei nvidia gabs mal zu sowas entsprechende optionen in der xorg.conf
[13:11] <freakyy> stevieh: hm, ich hab jettz bei askubuntu und ubuntuusers.de gepostet mal guggn ob ich eine antwort krieg. warte schon seit gestern abend. aber hey, askubuntu is ja auch cool ... mit dem badges und achievements und so find ich cool. wollte shcon fragen beantworten nur leider sind keine dabei die ich benatworten kann ;D
[13:17] <stevieh> ich wollte eine beantworten, bin aber nicht hoch genug gerankt, um das zu dürfen. Sollen sie es sich halt sparen. Deppen.
[13:18] <k1l> oha? seit wann sind denn antworten limitiert?
[13:19] <k1l> sonst pm es mir und ich proxiere das
[13:25] <stevieh> http://askubuntu.com/questions/1792/how-can-i-suspend-hibernate-from-command-line
[13:26] <stevieh> hier schreiben, dass ab 15.04 (oder vorher?) systemctl suspend der weg ist.
[13:26] <freakyy> ;D
[13:27] <freakyy> mein post hat schone iner geupranked ;D
[13:33] <k1l> stevieh: ab 15.04 ist systemd standard. also ab dann
[13:33] <freakyy> meine frage is die hier: http://askubuntu.com/questions/703135/strange-stripes-with-fglrx-drivers
[13:33] <stevieh> I see. na siehste, schreib rein.
[13:34] <freakyy> naja ich hab wily geremoved und trusty installed ... weil ich dachte vielleicht funktioniert da mein treiber aber nein ... immernoch die streifen ... aber hab ja jetzt nen kleines workaround aber so kann das nicht immer laufen hab ja ned immer nen bildschirm zum anschliessen dabei
[13:34] <freakyy> hi porti :)
[13:34] <freakyy> kann man eigentlich von trusty auf wily upgraden?
[13:34] <stevieh> nur mit zwischenschritten
[13:35] <freakyy> aber von trusty auf die nächste LTS geht dann wieder?
[13:35] <stevieh> yep
[13:36] <freakyy> ok :)
[13:38] <stevieh> k1l: brav :-)
[13:39] <k1l> :)
[13:41] <freakyy> k1l redet nichtmehr mit mir seit 3 tagen
[13:43] <freakyy> *trauriggugg*
[13:43] <k1l> freakyy: da musst du auch nicht dauernd wieder reinbohren. ich habe mehrfach versucht dir zu helfen, aber du hast dich so dagegen gewehrt, dass ich mit meiner zeit lieber was anderes anstelle.
[13:43] <freakyy> ok
[13:45] <nagetier_> freakyy, wie war das.. Live-Version zeigt ebenfalls die Probleme?
[13:47] <freakyy> nagetier_: nein live version benutzt doch den open source treiber - der hat aber keine hardware acceleration sondern da läuft was über software und ich hätte gern vom fglrx treiber die hardware acceleration
[13:47] <nagetier_> Stimmt
[13:47] <freakyy> :)
[13:48] <freakyy> ich bin übrigends weiter gekommen nagetier_ - die streifen gehn weg wenn ich 2ten bildschirm anschliesse, aber das isn laptop un da kann ich ned überall mein 42" bildschirm mitschleifen ;D
[13:48] <nagetier_> freakyy, mal eine andere Distribution versucht?
[13:48] <freakyy> nagetier_: ne will ubuntu ;D
[13:48] <nagetier_> ja, verständlich
[13:48] <freakyy> ubuntu gefällt mir am besten
[13:48] <nagetier_> und jo, das las ich
[13:49] <nagetier_> freakyy, wich würde das ja interessieren und würde es einfach mal testen
[13:50] <freakyy> nagetier_: naja ich hab doch den amd treiber auch von der website installiert - da kam vor 3 tagen nen neuer raus, der generiert danna uch die packages
[13:50] <freakyy> nur hat der teiber die selben probleme
[13:50] <freakyy> also ich hab ubuntu fglrx, fglrx-updates und den amd teiber 2 stück versucht
[13:50] <freakyy> und alle machen die streifen
[13:50] <nagetier_> freakyy, was ist wenn du die Auflösung am Laptop nicht auf nativ setzt?
[13:51] <nagetier_> was auch keine Lösung wäre..
[13:51] <freakyy> nagetier_: wie macht man das?
[13:51] <freakyy> nein wäre keine lösung will die native auflösung
[13:51] <nagetier_> na, die Auflösung herunterstellen
[13:51] <nagetier_> jo
[13:51] <freakyy> ausserdem die konsolen alt+f1 etc. haben auch die streifen
[13:51] <nagetier_> ahjo, stümmt
[13:51] <freakyy> aber die hamn glaub auch die auflösung naja
[13:52] <freakyy> da muss irgendwas falsch initialisiert werden
[13:52] <nagetier_> freakyy, kannst den HDMI im BIOS/UEFI abschalten?
[13:52] <freakyy> nein
[13:52] <freakyy> das is ne pci graka die hat keine options im bios
[13:54] <nagetier_> n setze einen neuen Trend und nimm den 42" immer mit ;)
[13:55] <freakyy> ja nur hat er kein strom dann ... ob das dann noch funktioniert weiss ich auch ned
[13:55] <freakyy> naja nen generator könnte ich ja auch noch mitnehmen
[13:55] <freakyy> in der bahn den diesel anschmeissen
[13:55] <freakyy> lol mit geschlossenen fenstern ;D
[13:55] <nagetier_> ja, alles Mist
[13:55] <freakyy> jap
[13:56] <freakyy> ;( ich hoffe mir kann jetzt jemand von amd, askubuntu oder ubuntuusers.de helfen
[14:01] <nagetier_> freakyy, hattest dich mal an xrandr gesetzt? .. damit könntest den HDMI deaktivieren
[14:02] <stevieh> nvidia hat für sowas auch 1000 optionen in der xorg.conf, weiss nicht, wie ati das macht
[14:02] <freakyy> nagetier_: eigentlich will ich den nicht deaktiviern
[14:02] <nagetier_> freakyy, wenn nichts an dem angeschlossen ist könnte man den auch abschalten
[14:03] <freakyy> nagetier_: nein das problem is ja das, das nur wenn ich was anschliesse die streifen weggehn
[14:03] <freakyy> wenn ich den deaktiviere hab ich keine chance mehr das zuf ixen
[14:03] <nagetier_> evtl arbeitet der Treiber dann anders, wenn der aus ist.. das war mein Gedanke
[14:04] <freakyy> naja ich will aber was anschliessen können
[14:04] <freakyy> deshalb hab ich ja da skabel ;D
[14:04] <nagetier_> dann schaltest den wieder ein :)
[14:04] <freakyy> kann man da sonthefly machen oder muss man neu starten?
[14:04] <nagetier_> nene, das geht während der Laufzeit
[14:05] <nagetier_> muss ich hier auch tun, aber aus anderen Gründen
[14:06] <nagetier_> sieht hier so aus .. '/usr/bin/xrandr --output DP-1 --off' , muss natürlich angepasst werden
[14:09] <nagetier_> https://wiki.ubuntuusers.de/RandR - falls nach all dem noch nicht bekannt
[14:10] <nagetier_> 'xrandr --auto' kann man sich auch mal ansehen (TV am HDMI dabei nicht angeschlossen)
[14:10] <freakyy> das xrandr --auto versuch ich jetzt mal
[14:11] <freakyy> brb, restart
[14:12] <nagetier_> freakyy, da solltest nicht neustarten, ansonsten kannst das direkt nochmal machen
[14:18] <freakyy> nagetier_: also hab gerestartet, xrandr --auto gemacht und nix hats gefixed
[14:19] <nagetier_> ja, war nur ein Versuch
[14:19] <nagetier_> aber mit xrandr würde ich noch nicht aufgeben
[14:22] <freakyy> hm, wie finde ich raus wie ich den hdmi port deaktiviere?
[14:32] <nagetier_> freakyy, lesen soll dabei helfen :) kann ich jetzt auch nicht aus dem Kopf sagen
[14:33] <nagetier_> freakyy, wird "meinem" Befehl sehr ähnlich sein
[14:34] <nagetier_> xrandr gibt dir die genaue Bezeichnung deiner Anschlüsse, auch den Internen, genau aus.. den dann verwenden
[14:35] <nagetier_> also nicht den Internen.. aber so kannst die halt unterscheiden
[14:45] <freakyy> nagetier_: hm ich schau mir das später nochmal an ... danke für die hilfe ;)
[15:28] <freakyy> so, jetzt hab ich noch dieses bekannte problem, dass ecryptfs1 nicht erfolgreich gemountet werden kann bei encrypteter home partition wegen dem installer. in 15.10 is das gefixed jetzt überleg ich ob ich da upgraden soll
[15:28] <freakyy> von trusty
[15:28] <freakyy> oder ob ich das anders wieder hinkrieg
[15:28] <freakyy> naja das tutorial hab ich emacht das funktioniert aber immer nochnicht
[15:31] <freakyy> http://askubuntu.com/questions/289858/disk-drive-for-dev-mapper-cryptswap-1-is-not-ready
[15:35] <freakyy> gibt es ne möglihckeit das einfach nochmal neu zu machen weil ich glaub ich habs jetzt komplett zerschossen
[15:47] <freakyy> ok, keine ahnung wie ich das wieder hin krieg mit dem crypt swap
[16:09] <frostschutz> freakyy, willst du swap verschlüsselt oder nicht?
[16:10] <frostschutz> freakyy, evtl. geht es so https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Dm-crypt/Swap_encryption#UUID_and_LABEL
[16:29] <freakyy> frostschutz: wollte verschlüsselt ich schau mir das nachher mal an vielen dank :D
[17:22] <freakyy> hm, ich kreig das nicht hin mit dem swap ;(
[17:47] <martin04112015> ich brauche hilfe. wie kann ich einen usb stick unter ubuntu mate formatieren ??
[17:47] <martin04112015> ist dringend
[17:48] <_moep_> formatieren oder nen image drauf prügeln
[17:48] <_moep_> https://wiki.ubuntuusers.de/Formatieren
[17:51] <misterx> hi
[17:51] <misterx> mein nick ist gebannt?
[17:52] <misterx> k1l_: da?
[17:54] <misterx> hm
[18:00] <martin04112015> ich kriege den usb einfach nicht formatiert so das ich da windwos drauf machen kann
[18:02] <martin04112015> ja ich weiss windwos ist scheisse aber brauche ich unbedingt für meinen laptop
[18:03] <martin04112015> also muss eine iso drauf packen
[18:03] <martin04112015> von windoof so das diese bootfähig ist
[18:04] <martin04112015> er erkennt den usb stick aber lässt sich nicht formatieren also kp wie ??
[18:05] <ThreeM> windows is nich scheiße
[18:05] * ThreeM zuckt schon xD
[18:05] * jokrebel schaut vorsichtshalber mal auf das Kanal-Türschild
[18:05] <martin04112015> ja ich brauche es halt zum zocken
[18:06] <jokrebel> martin04112015: Aber hier ist Ubuntu-support
[18:06] <martin04112015> und bei unetbootin kann ich das iso einfügen aber den usb stick nicht eweil der wahrscheinlich im flaschen format ist
[18:07] <ThreeM> windows 7?
[18:07] <ThreeM> 8?
[18:07] <ThreeM> 8.1?
[18:07] <ThreeM> 10?
[18:07] <jokrebel> egal!
[18:07] <ThreeM> hey, is offtopic ;)
[18:07] <jokrebel> martin04112015: Wende Dich bitte an ##windows-de
[18:07] <martin04112015> nein soll windows 7 sein weil 10 bei mir nur mist macht die iso habe ich ja schon
[18:08] <jokrebel> ThreeM: Und sind wir da gerade? Nein.
[18:08] <ThreeM> oh
[18:08] * ThreeM hat sich beim türschild verlesen
[18:09] <martin04112015> wieso an windows -de ?? wenn ich fdas mit ubuntui machen möchte ??
[18:09] <martin04112015> mein pc mit dem ich hier schreibe ist ubuntu
[18:19] <martin04112015> und von dem aus würde ich gerne einen bootfähigen windwos usb stick erstellen
[18:19] <martin04112015> kann mir bitte jemand helfen ist wichtig
[18:21] <rentier_> Kennt sich hier zufällig wer intim mit gThumb und RAW-Dateien aus?
[18:21] <rentier_> Ich würd gern wissen, wieso er in manchen Ordnern Thumbnails von RAWs anzeiget und in anderen nicht...
[19:11] <martin04112015> kann mir bitte endlich jemand helfen ??
[19:14] <smeexs> lade die unnetbootin runter
[19:14] <smeexs> mit dem und ner iso kannst du ganz leicht einen bootfähigen stick erstellen
[19:15] <smeexs> martin04112015
[19:16] <martin04112015> ja hjabe ich aber komischer weise erkennt der meinen usb stick nicht
[19:16] <martin04112015> sldo unetbootin
[19:17] <ring0> du musst den stick entsprechend vorbereiten
[19:17] <smeexs> das macht doch unetbootin alles von selbst
[19:18] <smeexs> oder is das bei win anders , mit windows wollt ich bis jetzt noch keinen erstellen
[19:18] <martin04112015> wie soll ich den denn über ubuntu vorbereiten ??
[19:19] <ring0> nö, du musst den stick vorher partitionieren und ein entsprechendes dateisystem erstellen
[19:19] <ring0> https://wiki.ubuntuusers.de/UNetbootin/Windows-Installations-Stick_erstellen
[19:19] <ring0> da steht eigentlich alles
[19:19] <martin04112015> ja aber egal woe ich den formatiere ubuntu erkennt ihn aber unetbootin nicht
[19:20] <ring0> es funktioniert genau so, wie da beschrieben. wenn nicht, machst du etwas falsch
[19:20] <martin04112015> ok danke ich probiere es
[19:21] <smeexs> ah wusste ich nicht dass das bei windows anders läuft
[19:22] <martin04112015> ja so wie da beschrieben mache ich es auch aber unten kann ich meinen usb stick nicht auswählen
[19:22] <jokrebel> deshalb ja auch der Hinweis sich da doch bitte in ##windows-de Hilfe zu suchen
[19:23] <martin04112015> ja aber die haben doch keine ahnung von ubuntu lol
[19:23] <martin04112015> weil das problem ja unter ubuntu besteht
[19:24] <ring0> ansonsten guck mal in die faq von unetbootin https://unetbootin.github.io/#faq
[19:25] <martin04112015> ok mache ich danke
[19:25] <freakyy> so ich kann einfach kein swap machen bei mir kokmmt immer: cryptdisks stop/waiting wenn ich versuche sudo ecryptfs-setup-swap auszuführn
[19:25] <smeexs> das ist kein ubuntu problem wenn win wieder extra würste braucht
[19:26] <freakyy> martin04112015: haste schonmal unetbootin neu gestartet - der stick muss gemountet sein
[19:26] <freakyy> glaub ich
[19:26] <freakyy> oder zumidnest nicht ausgeworfen
[19:26] <ring0> so ist es freakyy
[19:26] <jokrebel> martin04112015: Unetbootin gibt es auch für Windwos. Und Windows-Sticks erstellen Die sicher mehr als wir.
[19:26] <ring0> der stick muss entsprechend partitioniert und gemoutet sein, BEVOR man unetbootin startet
[19:27] <freakyy> einfach googlen - how to format an usb stick ntfs
[19:27] <ring0> martin04112015, ^
[19:27] <jokrebel> Und es ist KEIN Ubuntu-Problem
[19:27] <martin04112015> ja schon ok andere frage mit welchem programm unter ubuntu kann ich eine windows iso auf einen usb stick machen und bootfähig machen ??
[19:28] <jokrebel> *seufz*
[19:28] <freakyy> martin04112015: mit unetbootin
[19:29] <martin04112015> ja also und wenn es unter windows funktioniert alles und unter ubuntu nicht wo ist dann der fehler ??
[19:29] <mrkramps> irgendwo in einer programmversion
[19:29] <martin04112015> mhh
[19:30] <mrkramps> oder EFI
[19:31] <mrkramps> oder auch einfach weil die neuere verison das nicht unterstützt
[19:31] <smeexs> was funktioniert unter windows und unter ubuntu nicht ? das neue unetbootin welches du vermutlich unter win für ubuntu verwendet hat BIETET KEINEN WINDOWS SUPPORT MEHR
[19:31] <smeexs> steht auf der homepage
[19:32] <jokrebel> smeexs: Neinnein - Ubuntu muss schuld sein.
[19:33] <martin04112015> noch mal von vorne ok
[19:33] <martin04112015> also ich habe einen pc mit ubuntu
[19:33] <mrkramps> sonst dürftest du nicht hier sein
[19:33] <martin04112015> so stecke meinen usb stick rein ubuntu erkennt ihn
[19:34] <martin04112015> könnt ihr mir folgen ??
[19:34] <ring0> mit der art hilft dir hier keiner. schönen abend noch
[19:35] <jokrebel> martin04112015: Hallo? Was an "das ist kein Ubuntu-Problem" ist unverständlich?
[19:35] <martin04112015> was soll der scheiss denn jetzt wollte einfach von vorne beginnen um
[19:35] <mrkramps> müssen wir auf die frage jetzt antworten, damit du weiterschreibst?
[19:35] <bekks> So, und wann kommt eine brauchbare Fehlermeldung oder Problembeschreibung? Bisher kam da nichts.
[19:36] <martin04112015> kp was euer scheiss problem ist echt
[19:36] <martin04112015> will alles nochmal in ruihe von vorne durchgehen und ihr macht mich dumm an
[19:36] <jokrebel> martin04112015: Dass Du uns ein Problem aufdrücken willst welches nichts mit Ubuntu-Support zu tun hat.
[19:36] <bekks> Niemand macht dich dumm an. Liefere eine Ubuntu-bezogene Problembeschreibung, und dann gibt es hier auch Support. Sonst nicht.
[19:37] <smeexs> du schreibst zwei kurze sätze und dann könnt ihr mir folgen .. als wären wir debil und dann wunderst dich ? -.-
[19:37] <jokrebel> bekks: Er will nen Bootfähigen Windows-Stick erstellen.
[19:37] <bekks> Dann soll er das tun.
[19:38] <martin04112015> vergesst es
[19:38] <bekks> Hat nur leider nichts mit Ubuntu zu tun…
[19:38] <martin04112015> trotzdem danke
[19:38] <martin04112015> wenn ich es unter ubuntu machen möchte neeein dann hat es nichts mit ubuntu zu tun ^^
[19:39] <bekks> Welcher Teil von "das wird nicht mehr unterstützt" ist dir unklar?
[19:39] <freakyy> so ich kann einfach kein swap machen bei mir kokmmt immer: cryptdisks stop/waiting wenn ich versuche sudo ecryptfs-setup-swap auszuführn
[19:40] <freakyy> naja
[19:40] <freakyy> muss ich jetzt ohne swap leben? eigentlich hab ich gern etwas swap ;D
[19:40] <martin04112015> also es wird nicht mehr unterstützt das ein usb stick unter ubuntu bei unetbootin nicht erkannt wird ??
[19:40] <bekks> martin04112015: Ok, du liest offensichtlich gar nicht mit. Viel Spass noch.
[19:41] <martin04112015> ich lese schon mit verstehe es bloß nicht
[19:41] <ppq> freakyy, nanu, swap mit ecryptfs? kenne das nur mit luks → lvm → swap-partition
[19:41] <freakyy> hab kein lvm
[19:42] <bekks> martin04112015: Dann musst du dich an die unetbootin Programmierer wenden und sie fragen, warum sie das Feature, das du verwenden willst, so umgebaut haben, dass es kein Windows mehr unterstützt.
[19:42] <freakyy> ahb das nicht ausgewählt
[19:42] <ppq> freakyy, bietet sich halt an, wenn man gerne / und swap im selben luks container (nur eine passphrase/key) haben möchte
[19:42] <bekks> martin04112015: Hat man Dir vorhin auch schon gesagt.
[19:42] <freakyy> ich ahb / nicht verschlüsselt weil ich bei ubuntu 15.10 aufeinmal vorm eingabeprompt passphrase stand, aber das passphrase oben links in klartext geschrieben und nicht angenommen wurde
[19:43] <bekks> freakyy: Du hast offensichtlich verschlüsselt, sonst würdest du kein ecryptfs verwenden.
[19:43] <freakyy> ich hab mein homedir verschlüsselt aber nicht /
[19:43] <martin04112015> ok andere frage gibt es ein anderes programm oder eine andere möglichkeit mein problem zu lösen ??
[19:43] <bekks> freakyy: Also hast du verschlüsselt.
[19:43] <bekks> martin04112015: "Nein".
[19:43] <freakyy> bekks: ja, meine home partition
[19:43] <smeexs> du hast den stick doch schon mal mit windows bespielt nur bootet er nicht .. hast du erzählt
[19:44] <martin04112015> lol aber ubunhtu ist nicht scheisse ^
[19:44] <jokrebel> Und die Leute in ##windows-de wissen wohl immer noch wesentlich besser wie wir, wie man einen bootfähigen Windows-Stick erstellt heutzutage.
[19:44] <martin04112015> aber nicht unter ubuntui mann
[19:44] <bekks> martin04112015: Die Antwort ist immer noch "nein." Mann.
[19:44] <mrkramps> jokrebel, eigentlich wissen wir das auch https://wiki.ubuntuusers.de/Windows-Installation_vom_USB-Stick
[19:45] <martin04112015> ja und das was da sthet verstehe ich nicht
[19:45] <bekks> martin04112015: Ja, und? Dann stelle KONKRETE Fragen dazu
[19:45] <martin04112015> kann mir das bitte jemand erklären ??
[19:46] <bekks> WAS genau?
[19:46] <martin04112015> das was auf der seite steht.
[19:47] <bekks> martin04112015: DEutscher Text.
[19:47] <bekks> Was genau verstehst du an welcher Stelle nicht?
[19:47] <martin04112015> was muss ich zb in der konsole eingeben und warum ??
[19:47] <bekks> Was du eingeben musst steht da. Warum, steht da auch.
[19:47] <martin04112015> ok
[19:47] <bekks> Lesen musst du das schon selbst.
[19:47] <mrkramps> martin04112015, das wiederum steht hinter diesen orangen und unterstrichenen sogenannten Links
[19:48] <mrkramps> dieses wiki da ist ein quell an wissen, aber man muss es tatsächlich lesen … alles
[19:48] <mrkramps> und im idealfall dann noch halbwegs nachvollziehen können
[19:52] <martin04112015> andere frage bin unter ubuntu und möchte ein bootfähigen usb stick erstellen mit mint wieso erkennt ubuntu meinen stick nicht bei unetbootin ??
[20:08] <freakyy> so ich kann einfach kein swap machen bei mir kokmmt immer: cryptdisks stop/waiting wenn ich versuche sudo ecryptfs-setup-swap auszuführn. kann mir da jemand weiter helfen?
[20:09] <bekks> Warum benutzt du ecryptfs-setup-swap?
[20:09] <bekks> Warum nicht einfach mkswap?
[20:10] <frostschutz> freakyy, das mit dem offset hat nicht geklappt?
[20:12] <freakyy> frostschutz: ich krieg die swap partition nichtmerh entschlüsselt
[20:12] <freakyy> ehm created
[20:12] <freakyy> das mit dem offset hab ich erstmal nicht ausprobiert jetzt häöng ich da
[20:12] <freakyy> bekks: weils in dem tutorial hier steht:
[20:12] <freakyy> http://punygeek.blogspot.de/2012/10/ubuntu-1204-how-to-solve-disk-drive-for.html
[20:13] <bekks> Leg eine Partition an, mkswap darauf, in die fstab eintragen, fertig.
[20:13] <freakyy> ich will verschlüsselten swap
[20:14] <frostschutz> die anleitung ist müll
[20:14] <bekks> Dann ist doch der Weg mit einem vollverschlüsselten System und LVM am Einfachsten.
[20:14] <freakyy> ok
[20:15] <frostschutz> die anleitung erstellt unverschlüsselten swap (mit resume-eintrag) nur um diesen dann wieder genauso zu verschlüsseln wies vorher auch schon nicht funktioniert hat
[20:15] <freakyy> bekks: ich will nicht alles wider runterhaun und komplett verschlüsselt will ich auch nicht sonst steh ich wieder vorm passwort prompt und kann das passwort nicht eingeben
[20:15] <frostschutz> bei /dev/urandom verschlüsselten swap gibts kein hibernate/resume
[20:15] <bekks> Und d<s kann dir mit ecryptfs nicht passieren oder was? :P
[20:16] <freakyy> bekks: ne ich will einfach verschlüsselten swap so wie die installation das eigentlich vorgesehen hat
[20:16] <frostschutz> wenn du passwort nicht eingeben kannst fehlt kein kernelmodul... rausfinden welches und in die vom initramfs zu ladenden kernelmodule aufnehmen
[20:16] <frostschutz> s/kein/ein
[20:16] <bekks> Das sieht die Installation nur bei einem vollverschlüsselten System vor.
[20:16] <freakyy> ne ich will jetzt auch nicht nochmal neu formatiern
[20:16] <bekks> ecryptfs sieht nur vor, /home zu verschlüsseln.
[20:16] <frostschutz> wenn du kein hibernate brauchst versuch das mit dem offset
[20:17] <freakyy> bekks: also ich hab mit home verz. verschlüsselt installiert und hatte dannach einen nicht funktionierenden verschlüsselten swap
[20:19] <freakyy> also ich weiss jetzt nicht was ich machen soll
[20:19] <bekks> Naja, probier das mit dem Offset :)
[20:23] <freakyy> ich krieg da shconwieder einen fehler, http://paste.ubuntu.com/13532470/
[20:39] <Approach> Hat jemand eine idee, wie ich den Soundausgang von der Dockingsstation benutzte?
[20:40] <Approach> Dockingstation: Lenovo ThinkPad Mini Dock Plus Series 3
[21:15] <freakyy> bekks: also ich ahb den swap jetzt einfach so gemacht, ohne encryption, nur is der swap jetzt auch direkt nachm boot komplett voll? es handelt sich um 7,9GB
[21:16] <frostschutz> freakyy, free?
[21:18] <freakyy> free -h
[21:18] <freakyy> Auslagerungsdatei: 7,9G 0B 7,9G
[21:18] <frostschutz> also 0 belegt
[21:18] <freakyy> oh du hast recht
[21:19] <freakyy> sorry falsch gelesen
[21:19] <freakyy> danke ;D
[21:19] <freakyy> ok dann ahb ich jetzt offiziell einen unencrypteten swap ;D
[21:19] <freakyy> schade aber naja, geht ja nciht anders
[21:43] <freakyy> ich ahb noch ne andere frage. wie kreig ich das hin das pro drücken der taste ^ auch wirklich ein ^ kommt und ich nicht 2 mal für 1 ^ drücken muss. weil jedesmal wenn ich ^^ machen will muss ich 4 mal drücken
[21:46] <reachC> so viel ich weiß geht das nicht weil man ja mit ^+a gewisse sonderzeichen erstellen kann
[21:46] <freakyy> is das irgendwas no-dead-keys oder so? bei der installation ahb ich halt einfach deutsch angegeben ... jedoch muss ich jetzt wie gesagt da 4 mal immer drauf drücken das
[21:46] <freakyy> a
[21:46] <freakyy> ŝ
[21:46] <freakyy> hm ok is aber bissl blöd gemacht ich amg das ^^ smiley
[21:47] <reachC> am besten den ;-) smiley nehmen ^^
[22:12] <frostschutz> freakyy ja, nodeadkeys ist das - einfach so bei der tastatur einstellen
[22:17] <freakyy> frostschutz: das hab ich glaub ned installiert - wie installier ich das?
[22:19] <freakyy> moment
[22:19] <freakyy> ^^ habs danke ;D
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2015-11-27-#ubuntu-bugs
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[22:02] <cotix> Is there are way to report bugs when you dont run Ubuntu?
[22:07] <tarpman> cotix: if you don't run ubuntu, how are you affected by a bug in ubuntu?
[22:08] <tarpman> cotix: there are "Report a bug" links on project pages on bugs.launchpad.net, e.g. https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu
[22:08] <tarpman> cotix: ... but it's better etiquette to install ubuntu (perhaps in a virtual machine) and use apport to file a bug, as that automatically includes extra technical information with your report that can be helpful
[22:08] <cotix> The bug break my ubuntu so i cant use it to report a bug
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ubuntu-chat
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2024-05-13T22:11:19.570760
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2015-11-27-#ubuntu-tn
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[20:23] <elacheche> Good evening LoCo!
[20:30] <Hamzawi-Pythoni> Helllooooo :D
[20:30] <elacheche> wassup!
[20:31] <Hamzawi-Pythoni> facing problems in my preparations to LPIC-1 :(
[20:34] <elacheche> How is that?
[20:36] <Hamzawi-Pythoni> I'm following a bad tutorial, it doesn't explain clearly the commands, that's why we need a system administration workshop :D
[20:37] <elacheche> Hamzawi-Pythoni: no you don't :)
[20:37] <elacheche> You need 1 thing :)
[20:37] <elacheche> man ;)
[20:38] <elacheche> What command you can't understand?
[20:39] <elacheche> Yo crack3r !
[20:40] <Hamzawi-Pythoni> not a the command, the options of commands, the author doesn't explain them clearly, I'm still in LPIC-101, Topic-103: GNU and UNIX commands
[20:40] <crack3r> yo elacheche
[20:42] <elacheche> Wassup crack3r !
[20:42] <elacheche> Hamzawi-Pythoni: give me an example
[20:43] * elacheche is too lazy to google that LPIC101 section x)
[20:44] <crack3r> not much Anis, I am stuck at the house because of curfew
[20:44] <crack3r> and you?
[20:45] <elacheche> Oups x) Nothing special here too.. Just work & stuff..
[20:48] <Hamzawi-Pythoni> ok, for exeample: expand -t8 text2|unexpand -a -t2|expand -t3, he does'n explain "-t8" and "|"
[20:50] <elacheche> Hamzawi-Pythoni: | is a pipe! You never used a pipe before?
[20:50] <elacheche> Expand convert tabs to spaces
[20:51] <elacheche> -t is tabs number
[20:52] <elacheche> Hamzawi-Pythoni: man is your friend! Use "man expand" to read the good manual!
[20:52] <Hamzawi-Pythoni> never !!! I'm new to bash, and I understand comands but not options, u said that I need one thing, can u tell me what is it??
[20:53] <crack3r> you need to RTFM obviously
[20:53] <crack3r> jk
[20:54] <Hamzawi-Pythoni> wow!!! calm down Mr crack3d, I said I'm new to bash
[20:55] <elacheche> Hamzawi-Pythoni: Yeah! The one thing you need is "man" as crack3r you need to RTFM :)
[20:55] <elacheche> Hamzawi-Pythoni: his not insulting you :) RTFM is a common word in our Wrold :D
[20:55] <elacheche> It's not that offensive :D isn't it crack3r :D
[20:56] <elacheche> BTW, crack3r is a SysAdmin too :)
[20:56] <crack3r> nah, I tell my boss to RTFM all the time :)
[20:57] <Hamzawi-Pythoni> hhhhh u made me laugh crack3r, I will work hard to get certified, it's an opportunity doesn't it???
[20:58] <crack3r> yeah Hamzawi-Pythoni, I got a job thanks to my certifications
[20:59] <elacheche> crack3r: I do too :D I some times send this link to my boss too http://www.justfuckinggoogleit.com/
[21:00] <crack3r> haha elacheche, j'ai un grand RTFM sur le tableau dans mon bureau, à chaque fois qu'on me demande une question conne, je leurs montre ce qui est écrit au tableau
[21:00] <Hamzawi-Pythoni> hhhhhhhh, I'll send that link too :p so ladies and gentlemen I have to go now, nshallah tomorrow, wish me luck :)
[21:01] <crack3r> good luck Hamzawi-Pythoni :)
[21:01] <Hamzawi-Pythoni> thanks man :p
[21:02] <elacheche> Good luck :) When you need something just ping me.. But after RTFM and Googling :p
[21:02] <crack3r> haha!
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2015-11-27-#ubuntu-gnome
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[05:24] <darkxst> eliasps, the window bug should be fixed with the gtk+ in staging, it was a regression in the archive version bug 1518661
[18:38] <joe_user> Hello everyone
[18:40] <joe_user> I am curious, I have Ubuntu-Gnome 15.10 installed and recently I noticed I get this annoying tray icon at the bottom left, even when "hidden" is makes using the Terminal window VERY hard if I am at the bottom of the screen. How do I extirpate this menue or relocate it (extirpation is preferential frankly)?
[18:41] <joe_user> Anyone can see my messages?
[18:42] <joe_user> Are my messages making into the chat?
[18:42] <joe_user> Hello?
[18:43] <joe_user> Is my network broken too? no one sees me my messages? I see no replies, anyone there???
[18:45] <joe_user> anyone here?
[18:46] <joe_user> ok - guess my Linux is more broken than I thought.
[18:47] <Joe_test2> Good morning everyone
[18:47] <Joe_test2> Can anyone see my messages now?
[18:48] <Joe_test2> I am curious, I have Ubuntu-Gnome 15.10 installed and recently I noticed I get this annoying tray icon at the bottom left, even when "hidden" it is still there and thus makes using the Terminal window VERY hard if I am at the bottom of the screen. How do I extirpate this menue or relocate it (extirpation is preferential frankly)?
[18:49] <Joe_test2> Can someone say something so I know you can see what I am saying?
[18:49] <Joe_test2> Is there some geek code I need to utter for people not ignore me?
[18:52] <Joe_test2> HELLO?
[18:57] <ubuntu572> Hello
[18:57] <Joe_test2> Hello
[18:57] <Joe_test2> I just opened a second webchat window and it seems my messages are getting through, why am I being ignored?
[18:58] <Joe_test2> I am curious, I have Ubuntu-Gnome 15.10 installed and recently I noticed I get this annoying tray icon at the bottom left, even when "hidden" it is still there and thus makes using the Terminal window VERY hard if I am at the bottom of the screen. How do I extirpate this menue or relocate it (extirpation is preferential frankly)?
[18:58] * Joe_test2 I am curious, I have Ubuntu-Gnome 15.10 installed and recently I noticed I get this annoying tray icon at the bottom left, even when "hidden" it is still there and thus makes using the Terminal window VERY hard if I am at the bottom of the screen. How do I extirpate this menue or relocate it (extirpation is preferential frankly)?
[19:01] * Joe_test2 I am curious, I have Ubuntu-Gnome 15.10 installed and recently I noticed I get this annoying tray icon at the bottom left, even when "hidden" it is still there and thus makes using the Terminal window VERY hard if I am at the bottom of the screen. How do I extirpate this menue or relocate it (extirpation is preferential frankly)? Why is it the Ubuntu-Gnome live doesn't seem to have this rotten "feature" and my instal
[19:03] * Joe_test2 I am curious, I have Ubuntu-Gnome 15.10 installed and recently I noticed I get this annoying tray icon at the bottom left, even when "hidden" it is still there and thus makes using the Terminal window VERY hard if I am at the bottom of the screen. How do I extirpate this menue or relocate it (extirpation is preferential frankly)? Why is it the Ubuntu-Gnome live doesn't seem to have this rotten "feature" and my instal
[19:07] * Joe_test2 I am curious, I have Ubuntu-Gnome 15.10 installed and recently I noticed I get this annoying tray icon at the bottom left, even when "hidden" it is still there and thus makes using the Terminal window VERY hard if I am at the bottom of the screen. How do I extirpate this menue or relocate it (extirpation is preferential frankly)? Why is it the Ubuntu-Gnome live doesn't seem to have this rotten "feature" and my instal
[19:12] * Joe_test2 I am curious, I have Ubuntu-Gnome 15.10 installed and recently I noticed I get this annoying tray icon at the bottom left, even when "hidden" it is still there and thus makes using the Terminal window VERY hard if I am at the bottom of the screen. How do I extirpate this menue or relocate it (extirpation is preferential frankly)? Why is it the Ubuntu-Gnome live doesn't seem to have this rotten "feature" and my instal
[19:15] * joe_test I am curious, I have Ubuntu-Gnome 15.10 installed and recently I noticed I get this annoying tray icon at the bottom left, even when "hidden" it is still there and thus makes using the Terminal window VERY hard if I am at the bottom of the screen. How do I extirpate this menue or relocate it (extirpation is preferential frankly)? Why is it the Ubuntu-Gnome live doesn't seem to have this rotten "feature" and my install
[19:21] * joe_test I am curious, I have Ubuntu-Gnome 15.10 installed and recently I noticed I get this annoying tray icon at the bottom left, even when "hidden" it is still there and thus makes using the Terminal window VERY hard if I am at the bottom of the screen. How do I extirpate this menue or relocate it (extirpation is preferential frankly)? Why is it the Ubuntu-Gnome live doesn't seem to have this rotten "feature" and my install
[19:26] * joe_test I am curious, I have Ubuntu-Gnome 15.10 installed and recently I noticed I get this annoying tray icon at the bottom left, even when "hidden" it is still there and thus makes using the Terminal window VERY hard if I am at the bottom of the screen. How do I extirpate this menue or relocate it (extirpation is preferential frankly)? Why is it the Ubuntu-Gnome live doesn't seem to have this rotten "feature" and my install
[19:31] * joe_test I am curious, I have Ubuntu-Gnome 15.10 installed and recently I noticed I get this annoying tray icon at the bottom left, even when "hidden" it is still there and thus makes using the Terminal window VERY hard if I am at the bottom of the screen. How do I extirpate this menue or relocate it (extirpation is preferential frankly)? Why is it the Ubuntu-Gnome live doesn't seem to have this rotten "feature" and my install
[19:36] * joe_test I am curious, I have Ubuntu-Gnome 15.10 installed and recently I noticed I get this annoying tray icon at the bottom left, even when "hidden" it is still there and thus makes using the Terminal window VERY hard if I am at the bottom of the screen. How do I extirpate this menue or relocate it (extirpation is preferential frankly)? Why is it the Ubuntu-Gnome live doesn't seem to have this rotten "feature" and my install
[19:54] * joe_test I am curious, I have Ubuntu-Gnome 15.10 installed and recently I noticed I get this annoying tray icon at the bottom left, even when "hidden" it is still there and thus makes using the Terminal window VERY hard if I am at the bottom of the screen. How do I extirpate this menue or relocate it (extirpation is preferential frankly)? Why is it the Ubuntu-Gnome live doesn't seem to have this rotten "feature" and my install
[20:11] * joe_test I am curious, I have Ubuntu-Gnome 15.10 installed and recently I noticed I get this annoying tray icon at the bottom left, even when "hidden" it is still there and thus makes using the Terminal window VERY hard if I am at the bottom of the screen. How do I extirpate this menue or relocate it (extirpation is preferential frankly)? Why is it the Ubuntu-Gnome live doesn't seem to have this rotten "feature" and my install
[20:46] * joe_test I am curious, I have Ubuntu-Gnome 15.10 installed and recently I noticed I get this annoying tray icon at the bottom left, even when "hidden" it is still there and thus makes using the Terminal window VERY hard if I am at the bottom of the screen. How do I extirpate this menue or relocate it (extirpation is preferential frankly)? Why is it the Ubuntu-Gnome live doesn't seem to have this rotten "feature" and my install
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[02:39] <GeekMan1222> is the trs 80 100 a fun machine to mess with ?
[02:40] <GeekMan1222> woops wrong roomm
[02:40] <OerHeks> sure, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_software_for_the_TRS-80
[03:13] <dcosnet> i highly suggest investing in a 486 or 586 not a trs80
[03:13] * dcosnet shrugs
[03:13] <dcosnet> pre-mmx era though.
[15:59] <kuryanto> Assalamulaikum.
[17:32] <disposable> i've just installed 14.04 in virtualbox with EFI enabled. now i'm stuck at grub prompt with no menu. i created sda1 EFIboot partition (256MB, bootable) and sda2 for root filesystem. when i boot off rescue disk, i can see uuid of /dev/sda1 in fstab as /boot/efi and grub-efi-amd64 is installed (i've even done grub-install /dev/sda). have i missed something important?
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[05:12] <robru> oh god
[06:58] <Mirv> :(
[07:01] <robru> yeah
[07:03] <Mirv> robru: I've noticed that log disappearing before too on restarts, funny that the logs would be there but not shown
[07:03] <robru> Mirv: yeah
[07:05] <robru> Mirv: I just realized that all the diffs are inaccessible too, so I'm trying to get #is to tar them up for us so we can get to them
[07:07] <robru> Mirv: so, WATCH_ONLY is gone, but if you're in a pinch and really need to regenerate diffs on a silo, you can add a phony source package, build that package in PACKAGES_TO_REBUILD, and when it runs the diff phase it diffs everything, then just drop the package from the silo config after that. but hopefully we'll get all the diffs and it won't be necessary
[07:07] <robru> Mirv: or if the silo happens to have a manual source, just put that one in PACKAGES_TO_REBUILD and it'll do it
[07:10] <Mirv> robru: oh right, thanks for the trick.
[07:11] <robru> Mirv: I really don't want to bring back WATCH_ONLY but it seems like I'm going to need to provide some method of just regenerating diffs without rebuilding the packages.
[07:16] <robru> Mirv: no luck from #is, apparently there's too many to feasibly tar them up, and it's difficult to grab just the latest one
[07:29] <Mirv> robru: ok then
[07:30] <robru> Mirv: actually he just made a tarball and it's only 340MBs...
[07:49] <Mirv> ^ that's a first since March when the silo was started for vivid...
[07:49] <Mirv> mostly because no sense to work on the -gles packages before they are really needed
[07:50] <Mirv> but surely there were some months of other build failure too, and then reappearing new build failures with new toolchains etc
[08:02] <robru> Mirv: hmm? what's a first?
[08:07] <Mirv> robru: first time silo 012 was fully and succesfully built
[08:08] <Mirv> all packages that are meant to land from there
[08:09] <robru> Mirv: oooooh
[08:13] <robru> yowza
[08:28] <robru> Mirv: so uh, you gonna land ticket 20 then? Would be great to get that one out the door eh? ;-)
[08:39] <Mirv> robru: possibly next week :) it's starting to be as good as it's going to get at this point
[08:40] <robru> Nice
[09:20] <popey> Mirv, https://requests.ci-train.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/710 is the clock update ticket for QA as requested yesterday.
[09:35] <Mirv> popey: great!
[09:35] <Mirv> popey: what about the dropping letters?
[09:35] <popey> next on my list Mirv
[09:36] <Mirv> thank you
[09:43] <diwic> hi, I click "Create new request" and get an error 401 - what team should I be a part of, and who can make me part of such a team?
[09:55] <john-mcaleely> sil2100, ^ ?
[09:56] <brendand> diwic, it would be ci-train-users
[09:58] <brendand> diwic, ci-train-ppa-service is the admin: https://launchpad.net/~ci-train-ppa-service/+members#active
[09:59] <john-mcaleely> Mirv, does that mean you can help add diwic?
[10:00] <diwic> brendand, thanks, looking
[10:01] <diwic> all core devs are members of that team it seems like
[10:02] <brendand> diwic, yeah should be lots of people who can do it
[10:02] <brendand> diwic, unfortunately not me :(
[10:02] <Mirv> john-mcaleely: yes, diwic should just highlight "trainguards" so that we notice it more easily
[10:03] <john-mcaleely> :-)
[10:03] <popey> Mirv, dropping letters is done
[10:05] <diwic> trainguards: you are hereby highlighted
[10:05] <Mirv> diwic: ok, you're now part of the ci-train-users team
[10:05] <Mirv> diwic: try again
[10:05] <Mirv> popey: \o/
[10:05] <robru> diwic: log out and log back in though
[10:05] <Mirv> diwic: \o/
[10:05] <diwic> Mirv, thanks, working now
[10:06] <robru> diwic: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/citrain/LandingProcess documentation is here
[10:07] <diwic> robru, thanks, I'll try to follow it
[10:08] <robru> diwic: you're welcome!
[10:19] <rvr> jgdx: ping
[10:23] <jgdx> rvr, pong
[12:19] * sil2100 off to lunch
[12:46] <Elleo> sil2100 / robru: any idea what's causing the "not in PPA" errors for some (but not all) packages in silo 17?
[13:12] <Saviq> rvr, hey, just ACKed the two branches, silo 5 should be good for testing
[13:13] <rvr> Saviq: Ah, good
[13:13] <Saviq> they were just missing top-ack after some tweaks
[13:14] <rvr> Saviq: I already installed it, and was checking every merge proposal in the (large) list
[13:16] <Saviq> rvr, yeah, we like our large silos ;)
[13:18] <rvr> Saviq: This one also lacks top approval https://code.launchpad.net/~aacid/unity8/clazy_run/+merge/278326
[13:18] <Saviq> rvr, oh sry
[13:19] <jibel> rvr, jgdx I'm failing silo 39. It doesn't fix the crash.
[13:20] <rvr> jibel: Ack
[13:21] <jgdx> higgins, ack
[13:21] <jgdx> jibel, ack
[13:21] <jgdx> jibel, could you do apt-cache policy libsystemsettings1 ?
[13:22] <jgdx> just to confirm
[13:22] <jibel> jgdx, you're right to not trust me ;) http://paste.ubuntu.com/13526210/
[13:25] <jgdx> jibel, looks good though!
[13:28] <jibel> popey, I approved the clock app
[13:28] <popey> jibel, thanks :) I saw and uploaded it to the store.
[13:29] <jibel> popey, great, thanks
[13:35] <Mirv> thanks p & j for clock!
[13:40] <jibel> xavigarcia, silo 6 looks good, approved
[13:41] <jibel> xavigarcia, I found one configuration that doesn't really make sense and needs design input: 'disable GPS' and select 'GPS only' in location settings.
[13:41] <jibel> xavigarcia, I'll file a bug it is an existing case.
[13:42] <jgdx> cihelp: I'm seeing "UbuntuClientIntegration: connection to Mir server failed. Check that a Mir server is
[13:42] <jgdx> running, and the correct socket is being used and is accessible. The shell may have
[13:42] <jgdx> rejected the incoming connection, so check its log file"
[13:42] <jgdx> (sorry) and wondering what to do
[13:43] <jgdx> cihelp: it's happening in a lot of system settings jenkins autopilot jobs
[13:44] <jgdx> phablet-test-run never (on 4th run now) reproduces the issue
[13:45] <xavigarcia> jibel: cool, thanks!
[13:45] <xavigarcia> jibel: yeah, I saw that as well
[13:52] <jibel> xavigarcia, bug 1520580 for info
[14:06] <morphis> sil2100: what does happen if we have a vivid only and a dual landing MP in a silo?
[14:07] <morphis> does that work and land the vivid only manual upload to the overlay ppa only and the MP to both overlay and xenial?
[14:13] <kenvandine> jibel, rvr: the crash you guys found in silo 39, that isn't a regression
[14:13] <kenvandine> i just reproduced that with ubuntu-system-settings 0.3+16.04.20151109-0ubuntu1
[14:13] <kenvandine> different bug
[14:13] <jibel> kenvandine, it is the crash the silo is supposed to fix
[14:13] <kenvandine> no
[14:13] <kenvandine> i've never seen that crash
[14:19] <jibel> kenvandine, without the silo it's https://errors.ubuntu.com/oops/d3f94da4-9505-11e5-9c7f-fa163e525ba7 corresponding to bug 1519046 which is the bug attached to the MP
[14:19] <jibel> kenvandine, and with the silo it crashes with the same test case (retracing failed unfortunately)
[14:20] <jibel> kenvandine, so that bug is not fixed
[14:20] <jibel> kenvandine, or bug 1517254 and 1519046 are not duplicates
[14:20] <jibel> and only the first one has been fixed
[14:24] <psivaa> jgdx: Could you give me the link to the job?
[14:29] <jgdx> psivaa, one example: http://s-jenkins.ubuntu-ci:8080/job/generic-deb-autopilot-vivid-touch/5409/
[14:29] <psivaa> jgdx: thanks
[14:31] <jgdx> psivaa, filed here https://bugs.launchpad.net/canonical-devices-system-image/+bug/1520604
[14:31] <jgdx> psivaa, there's a ubuntu keyboard run in there as well. So it seems it's not system settings specific.
[14:37] <psivaa> jgdx: did you say you weren't able to reproduce this locally?
[14:37] <psivaa> if that's the case, just wanted to confirm, on which device you're running locally
[14:38] <jgdx> psivaa, I'm running mako locally and I can't reproduce. Elleo says he can repro sometimes during normal app launch.
[14:38] <jgdx> Elleo, what device was that?
[14:39] <psivaa> jgdx: in our case, we're only running those tests on krillin
[14:40] <jgdx> psivaa, I know. So this would be device specific, then?
[14:40] <Elleo> jgdx: that was on a mako, I've only seen it a couple of times
[14:40] <Elleo> jgdx: no where near as frequently as seems to be happening in the tests
[14:41] <jgdx> Elleo, okay, and it seems random?
[14:41] <Elleo> jgdx: yeah, and starting the app again after it happens results in a perfectly normal launch
[14:41] <Elleo> jgdx: might be worth grepping your own app logs to see if its happened at all to you without you noticing
[14:42] <psivaa> jgdx: more likely, i can not confirm though. It would be ideal if someone runs those tests locally on krillin. Since we're not doing anything special in jenkins than how you run locally, I dont think we, in CI can do much about this failure
[14:42] <Elleo> jgdx: since unless you're looking at the logs at the time the only thing you notice is that the app didn't start when you click on it
[14:43] <Elleo> jgdx, psivaa: I'll update my krillin and set the keyboard tests going on there and see if they hit it at all
[14:43] <jgdx> Elleo, thanks!
[14:43] <psivaa> Elleo: thanks
[14:43] <jgdx> psivaa, maybe help debug though
[14:45] <kenvandine> jibel, i'm confused, rvr said when he followed the steps to test this bug it passed but it crashed when starting directly in updates with flight mode enabled, which is a different bug
[14:48] <psivaa> jgdx: hmm, I dont think I can do much here though. If there is anything infrastructure related then I could help, but this is not related to any infra setup since there are other tests that run fine
[14:48] <jibel> kenvandine, the thing is if you load the update page with an update available then turn airplane mode on it crashes with the trace in 1519046, and same with or without the silo. So either it is a different test triggering the same crash or the crash is partially fixed or the 2 crashes are not duplicates.
[14:48] <kenvandine> jibel, i'm filing a new bug for that
[14:48] <kenvandine> jibel, oh? rvr said it didn't crash
[14:49] <jgdx> psivaa, okay
[14:49] <jibel> kenvandine, yeah I don't know why he didn't have a crash, but the crash is the same with or without the silo and whoopsie says it's the bug attached to the tiket
[14:50] <kenvandine> jibel, i can't make it crash when switching flight mode on while in the panel
[14:50] <kenvandine> i can without the silo of course :)
[14:50] <jibel> kenvandine, you need a U1 account registered and at least an update in the list
[14:50] <kenvandine> i have 3 updates
[14:51] <kenvandine> jibel, i did reproduce it with downgrading settings to what's in the overlay
[14:51] <kenvandine> but it doesn't crash when i install the silo
[14:51] <jibel> kenvandine, hm, let me try again
[14:51] <jibel> kenvandine, on which device?
[14:51] <kenvandine> arale
[14:51] <jibel> kenvandine, I didn't try on arale with the silo but krillin, I tried without the silo on both though
[14:52] <jibel> I'm retrying on krillin then arale
[14:52] <kenvandine> jibel, i did the testing from the MR on krillin
[14:52] <kenvandine> but silo testing on arale
[14:53] <kenvandine> it didn't crash on either for me
[14:53] <kenvandine> jibel, i filed bug 1520611 for the other crash
[14:54] <jibel> kenvandine, my case is slightly different, you start the update panel then enable flight mode.
[14:54] <kenvandine> yeah
[14:54] <jibel> I don't know if it makes a difference
[14:54] <kenvandine> which is what i was fixing
[14:55] <kenvandine> while it's doing a check, enable flight mode
[14:55] <kenvandine> that was triggering the crash in 1519046
[14:55] <kenvandine> jibel, what are you doing?
[14:56] <jibel> kenvandine, what I said, with the silo installed, open settings, and enable flight mode, it still triggers this bug
[14:57] <kenvandine> in which page?
[14:57] <jibel> kenvandine, in the updates page
[14:58] <kenvandine> jibel, and you said the stacktrace matches?
[14:58] * kenvandine doesn't think that could be possible
[14:58] <kenvandine> that code path wouldn't be hit after the check finishes
[14:58] <jibel> kenvandine, no errors.u.c says it's the same
[14:59] <kenvandine> with the silo installed?
[14:59] <kenvandine> got a link to the errors page for the crash with the silo?
[14:59] <jibel> yes. I'm redoing it to double check
[15:01] <kenvandine> jibel, if that's the same crash, that's not what i was looking at while working on this bug :)
[15:01] <kenvandine> i was only working on the case where it went into flight mode(or lost network) which the check was being done
[15:01] <jibel> kenvandine, I confirmed that with the silo installed, open system-settings/updates, wait until the 3 updates are displayed, then enable flight mode, it crashes
[15:02] <kenvandine> i was getting that same crash when it was actively checking for the updates
[15:02] <jibel> confirm*
[15:02] <kenvandine> and this branch fixes that
[15:02] <kenvandine> so i need another fix for your case
[15:04] <jibel> kenvandine, https://errors.ubuntu.com/oops/d23833f6-9517-11e5-b5b7-fa163e22e467
[15:05] <kenvandine> jibel, thx
[15:14] <Elleo> jgdx: here's the crash from unity8 running autopilot: http://mikeasoft.com/~mike/_usr_bin_unity8.32011.crash
[15:14] <jgdx> Elleo, asum
[15:15] <kenvandine> jibel, ok, i pushed a fix that i think should fix the case you hit, i need a build to confirm it
[15:18] <jibel> kenvandine, I was hoping it would take you more time and finish the week with empty queues of silos for QA ;)
[15:18] <kenvandine> haha :)
[15:18] <kenvandine> lets hope you still do... just with this silo landed :)
[15:19] <kenvandine> jibel, i'm confident this will fix it :-D
[15:53] <bzoltan_> ping cihelp
[15:53] <t1mp> cihelp: hello, I got failures in my MR that I think are CI related https://code.launchpad.net/~tpeeters/ubuntu-ui-toolkit/10-subheader/+merge/278713
[15:53] <bzoltan_> we have seen the same failure with more and more MRs
[15:53] <bzoltan_> https://jenkins.qa.ubuntu.com/job/ubuntu-sdk-team-ubuntu-ui-toolkit-staging-vivid-i386-autolanding/675/consoleFull
[15:54] <t1mp> It includes errors like this: /tmp/buildd/ubuntu-ui-toolkit-1.3.1688+15.10.20151018.1bzr1733pkg0vivid1268/tests/checkresults.sh: line 53: bc: command not found
[15:55] <psivaa> bzoltan_: let me take a look
[15:55] <bzoltan_> psivaa: thank you
[16:10] <psivaa> bzoltan_: t1mp: that ^ error 'bc: command not found' appears to be a red herring
[16:10] <psivaa> what's bothering me more is the output after 'Fatal server error:'
[16:10] <psivaa> EE) Cannot establish any listening sockets - Make sure an X server isn't already running(EE)
[16:10] <psivaa> _XSERVTransSocketUNIXCreateListener: ...SocketCreateListener() failed
[16:10] <psivaa> _XSERVTransMakeAllCOTSServerListeners: server already running
[16:16] <t1mp> psivaa: what can cause that? The MRs are for changes in UI toolkit, no changes directly related to X
[16:16] <t1mp> the tests pass on armhf
[16:17] <t1mp> also they pass on amd64, at least for my MR
[16:25] <kenvandine> jibel, i've confirmed my fix fixes the crash in both cases
[16:31] <psivaa> t1mp: i can't think of the cause, yet. this is only happening in i386 builders. digging a little more to see if there is any history with it
[16:35] <oSoMoN> davmor2, how is the validation of silo 13 going ?
[16:36] <davmor2> oSoMoN: nearly done
[16:36] <t1mp> psivaa: okay, thanks
[16:36] * t1mp gotta go now
[16:44] <davmor2> oSoMoN: just finished infact with the download of the next track for tubular bells :) all present and correct qa granting
[16:51] <davmor2> sil2100: did the bot die?
[16:51] <sil2100> davmor2: which one?
[16:52] <davmor2> sil2100: https://requests.ci-train.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/709 passed about 8 minutes ago hasn't been flagged yet here
[16:52] <sil2100> You mean, queuebot? There was a netsplit
[16:52] <sil2100> Queuebot did not return yet
[16:53] <davmor2> sil2100: ah that would explain it then thanks :)
[17:05] <popey> sil2100, for OTA8.5 - how does it work - just like OTA(N) you pluck the latest rc-proposed and promote after QA?
[17:05] <popey> sil2100, or is there some special process which takes OTA8 and adds a few cherry picked items?
[17:06] <sil2100> popey: hey! It's a bit different
[17:06] <sil2100> popey: we prepare an OTA-8 snapshot in a PPA and cherry pick packages that we need to have in the 8.5 release
[17:06] <sil2100> So more like your second idea
[17:06] <popey> ok, so it isn't the things that are in rc-proposed now plus fixes, but ota-8 plus fixes?
[17:06] <popey> ok, good
[17:07] <rvr> Saviq: Approving silo 5
[17:07] <popey> Can we assume silo 9 will _not_ be part of that? (media-hub recent landing) ?
[17:07] <sil2100> Yes, since we want to make sure that there's only a controlled number of fixes/changes in the image we want to release
[17:07] <sil2100> I think it wasn't part of the OTA-8.5 plan
[17:08] <popey> ok
[17:08] <jhodapp> it wasn't indeed
[17:08] <jhodapp> OTA9
[17:08] <sil2100> So the music-app changes still need to wait a bit ;)
[17:09] <ahayzen> :-)
[17:25] <jibel> popey, 8.5 are all the fixes targeted to OTA9 and tagged 'hotfix'
[17:25] <popey> ooh, ta
[17:26] <jibel> and fixed of course :)
[17:45] <bzoltan_> psivaa: could you figure out anything about that odd failure?
[17:47] <psivaa> bzoltan_: looks like one of the nodes is misbehaving. still figuring out how. i have offlined that node so the runs are passing
[17:47] <psivaa> https://jenkins.qa.ubuntu.com/job/ubuntu-sdk-team-ubuntu-ui-toolkit-staging-vivid-i386-autolanding/
[17:50] <bzoltan_> psivaa: nice, thank you
[17:51] <psivaa> bzoltan_: i have kicked off a couple of failed ones, it would help if you're able to rebuild any failed ones that you were waiting on.
[17:51] <bzoltan_> psivaa: it is this one - https://code.launchpad.net/~zsombi/ubuntu-ui-toolkit/resolve_qpointer_data/+merge/278766 what I need the most
[17:52] <psivaa> right, that one is still in progress after my rebuild. thanks
[17:55] <bzoltan_> psivaa: other ... i see this package is in the proposed pocket https://requests.ci-train.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/711 Is anything holding it or should I expect to land at some point without anything?
[17:56] <psivaa> bzoltan_: since the particular node is offlined, it should not impact any more tests
[17:57] <bzoltan_> psivaa: cool, thanks. what about that qtcreator-plugin-ubuntu landing?
[17:58] <psivaa> bzoltan_: sorry, i dont see any autolanding job for qtcreator-plugin-ubuntu?
[17:58] <psivaa> bzoltan_: i only see qtcreator-plugin-ubuntu-ci
[17:59] <bzoltan_> psivaa: in this silo https://requests.ci-train.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/711
[17:59] <psivaa> bzoltan_: we dont deal with ci-train stuff, should be for trainguards i suppose
[18:00] <psivaa> apologies for my confusing answer before
[18:00] <bzoltan_> psivaa: ohh, sorry :)
[18:00] <bzoltan_> psivaa: my bad, thank you for your help with the other issue. That was a clear blocker.
[18:01] <psivaa> bzoltan_: yw :)
[19:04] <davmor2> popey: ^
[19:04] <davmor2> ahayzen: ^
[19:04] <ahayzen> \o/
[19:33] <popey> \o/
[19:33] <popey> thanks davmor2 ahayzen
[19:36] <popey> \o/ store has updated weather
[21:26] <dobey> is fginther around today?
[22:17] <dobey> trainguards: can i get someone to manually ack some autopkgtest failing that has never worked?
[22:17] <robru> dobey: what, in proposed? that's a job for #ubuntu-release
[22:18] <dobey> yes
[22:18] <robru> dobey: also proposed migration is not supposed to block on something that always failed.
[22:19] <dobey> robru: i think maybe something is wrong with how that is determined then? this fails at installing the built binaries on some archs, which i guess we didn't have autopkgtests running for until recently
[22:20] <dobey> well, one of the built binaries
[22:20] <robru> dobey: dunno then. not my area, sorry
[22:20] <dobey> ok
[22:21] <dobey> probably not the best time to be pinging people either, late on a friday, and with most US people on vacation today
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[00:01] <yang> cudn da ma bernie sanders na Wikipediji sliko iz leta 2007
[00:02] <idioterna> http://www.thepoke.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2015/11/CUQEWd-VEAEEOCu.jpg
[00:02] <idioterna> tko men zgledate
[00:02] <idioterna> k se bojite beguncov.
[00:02] <yang> aja pise offical portrait, ko da niso mogli novejse dat
[00:02] <idioterna> zakaj pa hoces novejsiga?
[00:02] <idioterna> a ta ni dobr?
[00:03] <yang> Hillary ma pa iz leta 2009
[00:04] <idioterna> why is this important?
[00:05] <upd> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mNkZ_sWBxrM če koga zanima debata o btc
[00:05] <Pepelka> The Kash Cycle | ES1 | Guests Roger Ver and Ross Gerber - YouTube
[00:05] <Pepelka> »The Kash Cycle with Guests Gerber Kawasaki and Roger Ver | http://kazonomics.com | Bitcoin, Blockchain, Trading, Regulation.«
[00:05] <yang> upd: se kar trejdas BTCje ?
[00:06] <upd> amm trgujem sam kolkr rabim za app k ga delam, drugače pa bolj spremljam
[00:06] <yang> jaz mislim, da se jih ne splaca kupovati, da bi spekuliral da bos kasneje z njimi zasluzil
[00:07] <yang> nekih realnih podatkov glede vrednosti ni mogoce dobiti
[00:07] <upd> ne splača
[00:07] <upd> kwa pa ni realno
[00:07] <yang> vse je samo stvar borze
[00:07] <upd> kupiš, po 360€ pa nastaviš sell na 500€
[00:07] <yang> cena niha, lahko pade cisto na nulo
[00:07] <upd> kaj se tu ne splača
[00:07] <yang> kaj pa ce nikoli vec ne gre do 500
[00:07] <upd> pa nj
[00:08] <upd> si pač zgubu
[00:08] <upd> tak kot če kupiš hišo pa ti meteorit gor pade
[00:08] <upd> al pa kupiš avto
[00:08] <yang> moras nardit tko kot idioterna on jih je prodal za par tisoc
[00:08] <upd> a bo kdaj več vreden kot si plačal never
[00:08] <yang> pa zdaj tut ce pade na 0 je ze profitiral
[00:09] <yang> upd: avto je lahko vece vreden :
[00:09] <upd> ja je pač dober trejd naredu
[00:09] <idioterna> to je bil blind luck
[00:09] <yang> samo za 50 let ga moras dati v garazo
[00:09] <idioterna> prodal sm za 800
[00:09] <upd> no bitcoin pa za 5 mesecev
[00:09] <upd> :d
[00:09] <idioterna> pa komot bi slo do 15k
[00:09] <yang> ravno mi je sosed razlagal ker restavrira stare avte
[00:10] <idioterna> pa bi pol vsi govoril "koks neumn k si prodal"
[00:10] <upd> sej k je bila cena 800 se vedu nism kaj je btc :)
[00:10] <idioterna> aja jsm naminal te coine 2011
[00:10] <idioterna> tko da sm jih zastojn dobu prakticno
[00:10] <yang> idioterna: ja jst sem svojih 100 BTCjev prodal za 200 usd, vseeno sem pri tem zasluzil 150 usd se mi je zdelo kar ok takrat
[00:10] <upd> idioterna, hudo :d if only i knew
[00:10] <idioterna> ja sej jih mam se 300
[00:10] <upd> yang, bolje kot 10k za pico :D
[00:10] <idioterna> sam jih drzim v cold walletu
[00:11] <idioterna> za hude case
[00:11] <yang> mislim da me ne bo kaksen hodil ropati, 1 BTC sem prodal za 2 USD
[00:11] <idioterna> mene loh pridejo ropat
[00:11] <idioterna> pa jim nc ne pomaga
[00:11] <idioterna> bicikl mi loh ukradejo
[00:11] <upd> a bo pršu ropar bo zlato iskal, kaj bo pa vedu kaj je en papir z enimi številkami pa črkami gor
[00:11] <upd> :d
[00:11] <yang> upd: ma jaz poznam tega lazslota in je odgovoril tkole "10.000 BTCs for a pizza is a really good deal when you're hungry"
[00:12] <upd> it was*
[00:12] <upd> ok čist tkole bom reku
[00:12] <upd> lahk gre do 10k
[00:12] <upd> lahko gre do 0$
[00:12] <upd> ampak trenutno
[00:12] <upd> z ničemer ne boš naredil tolk profita kot z btcjem
[00:13] <yang> ja pac gemblanje je
[00:13] <upd> ne trgovanje ni gemblanje
[00:13] <yang> tok profita ali pa tolk izgube....nevem ce imas 5000 eur prihrankov ali se bolj splaca dati na banko aliu kupiti BTCje
[00:13] <upd> pri gemblanju lahko z eno barvo vse izgubiš
[00:13] <upd> tuki pa ne moreš v 1 sekundi vsega izgubi
[00:13] <upd> t
[00:14] <upd> yang, btc
[00:14] <upd> definitivno
[00:14] <upd> če zdele kupiš
[00:14] <yang> zdaj ko je toliko altcoinov, morda bitcoin niti ni najboljsi nakup
[00:14] <upd> sam prodaj pri 500€ pa imaš profit
[00:14] <upd> od banke ne bo nič
[00:14] <upd> jebeš altcoine k :)
[00:14] <yang> sam ce bo btc padel na 10 usd, potem bo tvojih 5000 eur vrednih samo se 200 eur
[00:15] <idioterna> o lej men je pa dons zrastl 1.35%
[00:15] <upd> jah boš pa prodal ko pada cena 10€
[00:15] <idioterna> premozenje
[00:15] <idioterna> od vceri
[00:16] <upd> yang, zato maš pa program, pa nastavitve da proda če začne padat, če te je strah izgube
[00:16] <yang> upd: pri pravih delnicah imas ti kazalnike uspesnosti podjetja in lahko neko rast realno predvidevas
[00:16] <yang> pri btcju nimas nicesar
[00:16] <upd> pri delnicah nič nimaš
[00:17] <yang> jst mam neki teh DOGEjev
[00:17] <yang> ampak ko sem jih na zacetku kupil so bili ful dragi
[00:17] <idioterna> http://usuncut.com/politics/its-official-thousands-more-women-donating-to-bernie-sanders-than-hillary-clinton/
[00:17] <Pepelka> Thousands More Women Donate to Bernie Sanders Campaign
[00:17] <yang> zdaj so komaj 10% te cene
[00:17] <Pepelka> »There goes the myth of the«
[00:17] <idioterna> feeling the bern
[00:18] <upd> yang, ja si že povedal si pač ob napačnem času kupil
[00:18] <yang> upd: poglej graf za DOGEJE
[00:18] <yang> To the moon
[00:18] <yang> blazna rast je bila
[00:18] <upd> tko k btc 10k folka pri 1000$
[00:18] <upd> pa si bil gredy
[00:18] <upd> pa nisi prodal
[00:18] <yang> ja uni k so kupovali BTCje pri 1000 usd, pa spekulirali da bo slo do 10k so se fajn zajebal
[00:18] <upd> z 10% dobička
[00:19] <upd> to da je bil btc pri 1000$
[00:19] <upd> še poveča možnost da bo spet tam 1x
[00:19] <yang> BTC je bil vec vredn kot unca zlata celo
[00:19] <yang> jst mislim da so zdej drugi altcoini na vrsti
[00:20] <yang> sam tezko je vedt, kateri ce ne spremljas tega
[00:20] <upd> ne. altcoini so dead.
[00:20] <yang> nekateri altcoini majo tut drugacne algoritme
[00:20] <idioterna> are they?
[00:20] <idioterna> js mam 360k doge se nekje
[00:20] <idioterna> http://coinmarketcap.com/
[00:20] <Pepelka> Crypto-Currency Market Capitalizations
[00:20] <idioterna> still up there
[00:20] <Pepelka> »Crypto-currency market cap rankings, charts, and more«
[00:20] <yang> idioterna: kupim za zmerno celo
[00:20] <yang> ceno
[00:21] <idioterna> prodal bom ko bo $20
[00:21] <upd> dober jaz ne gledam dolgoročno
[00:21] <yang> :)
[00:21] <upd> gledam kolk se danes trguje altcoine v primerjavi 2 leti nazaj
[00:21] <yang> idioterna: ma dobro ti lahko od enga bitcoina zdej dobis vec kot miljon dogejev
[00:21] <idioterna> ne da se mi
[00:21] <idioterna> mam drugo delo
[00:21] <yang> tko da to se bo vedno dalo iz btcjev pretvorit
[00:21] <upd> mja tud dogecoin bo šel gor 1x
[00:21] <idioterna> bols placano kot trgovanje s coini
[00:22] <upd> idioterna, dej mi svojih 300btcjev pošl
[00:22] <upd> bom zate trgoval
[00:22] <upd> mmm
[00:22] <yang> hehe
[00:22] <yang> 300 btcjev je pa kr neki vredno
[00:23] <yang> upd: a si dejansko dobil denar na TRR ?
[00:23] <yang> od menjav
[00:23] <upd> nimam trr sploh
[00:23] <yang> kako pa pol do gotovine prides
[00:23] <upd> sploh mi ni treba
[00:23] <yang> ja to je potem brezveze
[00:23] <yang> oz samo kupujes
[00:23] <upd> ja
[00:23] <upd> sam
[00:23] <upd> premikam sem pa tja
[00:24] <yang> sam nevem ce ne mores dnarja ven dobit recimo pol nevem, je mal brezveze
[00:24] <upd> mislem seveda ga lahko dobim
[00:24] <upd> ko ga bom rabil
[00:24] <yang> recimo tej BTC ATMji samo nudijo prodajo BTCjev in ne obratno
[00:24] <upd> tud v lj. imaš 2 two way
[00:24] <upd> i think
[00:24] <yang> aja ne vem
[00:24] <upd> sam je max 20€ dnevno
[00:25] <idioterna> upd: mogoce cez eno leto
[00:25] <yang> un bitnik je samo za prodajo
[00:25] <idioterna> upd: zdej si ne morem prvoscit
[00:25] <yang> ma dobro tut 20 na dan je ok
[00:25] <upd> idioterna, ok :)
[00:25] <idioterna> k je to skor 15% mojga premozenja
[00:25] <yang> to je 300 na mesec
[00:25] <yang> oz
[00:25] <yang> 600
[00:25] <idioterna> pol pa loh ubistvu
[00:25] <idioterna> js ti dam coine, ti mi das pa 10% od donosa
[00:25] <upd> yang, sej do fiata je najmanši problem pridit bitfinex bitstamp pošlješ osebno pa si nakažeš na trr
[00:25] <idioterna> ostalo pa obdrzis
[00:26] <upd> idioterna, zmenjeno
[00:26] <idioterna> aja no pa glavnico mi das nazaj enkrat
[00:26] <upd> aja :D
[00:26] <idioterna> razn ce nardis tok donosa da ti jo loh senkam
[00:26] <upd> logično :p
[00:26] <upd> čak morva se še zmenit
[00:26] <idioterna> mislm ce bo 10% donosa 1000 coinov
[00:26] <upd> če grem v -10% :d
[00:26] <idioterna> pol si zasluzs tistih 300
[00:26] <idioterna> za nagrado
[00:26] <yang> upd: ja ce bi mel tkole enih 50 BTCjev bi verjetn lahk od razlike zivel
[00:26] <yang> ce bi skoz trejdal
[00:26] <idioterna> aja hm
[00:27] <yang> sam v primeru da bi skoz dol slo, pa jih ne bi mogel prodati za vec
[00:27] <idioterna> ja ce nardis zgubo mislm da je to tut moj rizik loh
[00:27] <idioterna> ce sm investiru
[00:27] <upd> razik je lahko 50:50
[00:27] <idioterna> ampak more bit tut tvoj
[00:27] <idioterna> ja
[00:27] <yang> idioterna: mislim da pri pravih brokerjih ce nardijo zgubo niso sami krivi
[00:27] <idioterna> sej ne govorimo o krivdi
[00:27] <idioterna> sam o tem kdo placa rizik
[00:27] <yang> idioterna: morjo pa klienta obvestiti pravocasno da delnice padajo
[00:28] <upd> yang, http://fusion.net/story/235594/guy-owes-etrade-money-on-shkreli-stock/ takole npr
[00:28] <Pepelka> Guy says he owes E*Trade $106,000 for shorting pharma stock | Fusion
[00:28] <Pepelka> »A user calling himself Joe Campbell has launched a GoFundMe campaign after losing more than $106,000 by betting against a stock that soared unexpectedly.«
[00:28] <yang> nevem no
[00:29] <upd> nič ga niso obvestil
[00:29] <yang> jst si predstavljam da brokerji ne morejo biti odgovorni za nihanje delnic...kukr jst vem oni klicejo klienta v vsakem primeru, ce prodajajo ali ce kupujejo
[00:29] <idioterna> ja sej niso odgovorni
[00:29] <idioterna> sej to se vnaprej zmenis
[00:29] <idioterna> kaksn je deal
[00:29] <idioterna> in ce si podpisu bad deal
[00:29] <idioterna> mislm js nism asshole
[00:29] <yang> mislim oni so placani itak samo ko nardijo dober visek od provizije
[00:29] <idioterna> da bi hotu zjebat koga ker se mu je trade ponesrecu
[00:29] <yang> tako da so vedno v plusu
[00:30] <idioterna> ja ni res ane
[00:30] <yang> idioterna: evo dej 10 BTCjev updju, pa 10 men za trejdat, pa da vidmo
[00:30] <yang> to se ti nau poznal
[00:30] <yang> pa 10% profita
[00:31] <yang> ce BTC blazno pade, potme jih dobis 10 BTCjev nazaj
[00:31] <yang> ce pa zraste pa se proda in dobis razliko v ceni
[00:31] <upd> kolkr sem forex trgoval, so oni plačani od spreada če je bil eur/usd 1.1268 po tej ceni naj bi jaz kupil mi je kupilo po 1.1270, kar je pa razlike je pa njihov dobiček
[00:32] <upd> pol je pa še fee seveda
[00:32] <upd> price * amount * %
[00:32] <yang> idioterna: mislim pr pravih bogatasih in delnicah je fora v tem, da oni se ne ukvarjajo s tem da bodo cekirali stanje delnic vsakih 5 minut, ampak imajo pac za to brokerja, ki ga placajo da trguje v njihovem imenu recimo, ena skrb manj
[00:33] <yang> upd: ma glej ce ti znas dobr trejdat, bi bom jaz posodil 1 BTC recimo
[00:33] <yang> men se ne da kej dost vec s tem ukvarjat, pa tut ne morem bit 24h za racunalnikom
[00:34] <upd> ah ne še zdej
[00:34] <upd> :D
[00:34] <yang> vem da vcasih tak peak traja samo kakih par ur
[00:34] <yang> in ce te takrat ni zdraven al pa ce spis
[00:34] <yang> pol si zamudil
[00:34] <yang> razen ce mas timer pac tm na strani
[00:34] <yang> da ti avtomatsko zemenja
[00:34] <upd> učeri je en kričal k je na wc šel, pa je btc šel gor in je 3k zgubu
[00:34] <yang> haha
[00:35] <yang> nevem no men se vseen to zdi podobno gemblanju
[00:35] <upd> ni gemblanje je igranje sreče
[00:35] <yang> pa tut da to gledas cel dan v te cifre je naporn
[00:35] <upd> tuki pa lahko predvidiš kam bo šlo
[00:35] <idioterna> zlo svoh loh predvidis
[00:36] <idioterna> mislm, vcasih se da
[00:36] <upd> tud programirat je naporno :P
[00:36] <idioterna> http://shrani.si/f/3L/VQ/19U4B8co/wall.png
[00:36] <idioterna> tle je kr obvious kam bo slo
[00:36] <idioterna> ma programiranje pa res ni naporno
[00:36] <upd> odvisno kaj delaš
[00:36] <yang> upd: sem marskej o BTCju prebral , sam neke strategije stavljenja pa mislim da ni, razen da pac prodajas ob peakih za katere ne ves kdaj se bodo zgodili, ponavadi ko nekdo dumpa ogromno coinov na nek exchange
[00:37] <upd> ja lahk greš pač go with the flow
[00:37] <yang> nevem BTC je bil skor eno leto med 200 in 250
[00:37] <yang> ce si kupoval po 200
[00:37] <yang> in prodajal pri 250
[00:37] <yang> si ustvaril nek dobicek
[00:38] <yang> sicer minimalni ampak se vedno nekaj
[00:38] <yang> ce imas recimo samo 3 BTCje je ta dobicek tok mejhen da se ti skoraj ne spaca s tem ukvarjat, ce bi pa trejdal z 100 coini pa bi ze veik profitiral
[00:38] <upd> da toj že 25% kar je velik
[00:38] <upd> yang,
[00:39] <upd> zato trgujemo z vzvodom
[00:39] <upd> oz. margin trading
[00:39] <yang> ampak ko je bil 200 se ni vedl, eni so govoril da bo ful padel skor na 0 da bo nicvreden recimo, in sploh niso hotli kupovat pri 200
[00:39] <upd> če boš pogledal okcoin.com
[00:39] <upd> je ta vzvod 10x pa 20x
[00:39] <upd> se pravi če imaš ti 1btc lahko daš 20x pa odpreš pozicijo kot da imaš 20btc jev
[00:39] <upd> in ko gre cena 1% gor
[00:39] <upd> ti dobiš 20% profita
[00:40] <yang> aja to ne poznam
[00:40] <yang> men je blo zanimivo sam v toliko da sem videl kako se z "virtualnimi" delnicami trguje kot platfroma
[00:40] <yang> ne pa v toliko da bi dejansko od tega sluzil
[00:41] <upd> mah fajn je
[00:41] <yang> ce bi obdrzal tistih 100 coinov pol bi dejansko mel neko maso vredno za spekulacijo
[00:41] <upd> sam dobivat profit je pain in the ass
[00:41] <yang> zdej se mi zdi pa brezveze zapravljati lastno placo za to da bi kupval neko virtualno valuto
[00:41] <yang> ker je skor kt da bi metal denar stran
[00:42] <upd> https://www.bitfinex.com/pages/howitworks#margin-trading
[00:42] <yang> oz v najboljsem primeru sem nekje na 0
[00:42] <upd> ja pač
[00:42] <upd> tko je če imaš višek
[00:42] <upd> oz. kar si lahko privoščiš da lahko izgubiš
[00:42] <upd> je bolje invistirat
[00:42] <upd> kot pa dat v predal
[00:43] <yang> upd: poznam te male trejdere, prodajajo za par EUR razlike recimo, samo od tega ne obogatijo
[00:43] <yang> mislim "obogatijo"
[00:43] <yang> mas folk ki prodaja stvar iz ebaya za BTCje tud
[00:43] <yang> itd.
[00:43] <yang> vse zivo
[00:44] <yang> mas folk ki se vedno minira
[00:44] <yang> eni se s temi coini bavijo full time
[00:44] <yang> ampak mislim da moras imeti neko maso teh coinov da se trejdanje dejansko izplaca
[00:45] <yang> da si v plusu
[00:45] <upd> jup splača se že z 10$
[00:45] <upd> če si dober
[00:45] <upd> je to 1k na mesec lahko
[00:45] <upd> lol
[00:45] <yang> to nevem
[00:45] <yang> splaca se met svojo borzo
[00:46] <yang> pa sluzis od provizij
[00:46] <yang> tko kot bitstamp
[00:46] <upd> dokler te ne pokradejo tak kot so njih
[00:46] <yang> prej al slej ti vdrejo noter
[00:46] <upd> to se pa nebi nikoli šel
[00:46] <upd> prevelik rizik
[00:47] <yang> lahko je tudi kdo interno jih okradel
[00:47] <yang> tisti ki so imeli dostop do walletov
[00:47] <yang> vpraqsanje kako so imeli narejeno oz zasciteno
[00:49] <upd> ne vem že pozabil
[00:49] <upd> na eni sem imel keš
[00:49] <upd> cryptorush
[00:49] <upd> so jih hekal
[00:49] <upd> k so idioti dal source na github
[00:49] <upd> z vsemi ključi za denarnice
[00:49] <upd> pa je en skopiral na pc, pa si nakazal v svoje
[00:49] <yang> ponavadi ko vdrejo na borzo redko vrnejo denar vlagateljem, polno je bilo ze teh prevzemov in potem stran nedosegljiva, nobenega kritja itd.
[00:50] <upd> pol pa dobiš slabo banko
[00:50] <yang> nimas nobene garancije
[00:50] <upd> jup
[00:51] <upd> bitstamp je vse sam kril
[00:51] <yang> zanimivo je predvsem se nauciti tega trgovanja
[00:51] <yang> kot nek skill
[00:52] <yang> pa delati z z temi stranmi
[00:52] <yang> kasneje ce si dober morda celo dobis coine od tistih k se jim ne da vec trgovati
[00:54] <upd> ne dobiš velik
[00:54] <yang> no ura je pozna
[00:54] <yang> jst grem
[00:54] <yang> lahko noc
[00:55] <upd> gn
[00:56] <idioterna> evo sm koncno celga bernija poslusu
[00:56] <upd> in je ql ?
[00:56] <upd> kdaj sploh imajo volitve
[00:58] <idioterna> 2016 :)
[00:58] <idioterna> decembra
[00:59] <idioterna> sam primaries so precej
[00:59] <idioterna> prej
[00:59] <idioterna> upejmo da bo trump vs bernie
[00:59] <idioterna> to bo fun
[01:12] <upd> aja oni majo še to
[01:13] <upd> o groza 1 leto gledat pa poslušat
[01:13] <upd> od tega sranja
[01:14] <idioterna> zakaj sranja
[01:14] <idioterna> bernie je pa ja fajn
[01:14] <idioterna> ostalga pa ni treba gledat
[01:16] <upd> politika
[01:16] <upd> lol no
[01:16] <jabuk> https://i.imgur.com/BiSkH5D.png
[06:29] <napsy> jutro
[06:30] <zdobersek> so what
[07:09] <slax0r> jutro
[07:31] <jabuk> M 1.8 > 7.km JV od HUMINA (GEMONA DEL FRIULI, ITALI @27/11/2015 08:22:16 https://maps.google.com/?q=46.24+N,+13.2+E
[08:33] <yang> idioterna: kaj sele decembra 2016 majo volitve pa tak cirkus zganjajo ze 1 leto prej...
[08:35] <yang> The United States presidential election of 2016, scheduled for Tuesday, November 8, 2016
[08:35] <zdobersek> so what
[08:35] <yang> neverjetni so
[08:43] <yang> se kr ddosajo vidm
[08:44] <zdobersek> so what
[08:51] <slax0r> zdobersek se sploh drugega danes povedal ni kot "so what"...
[09:54] <Pepelka> [Web Upd8] Andrew: Ancient Warfare Game 0 A.D. Alpha 19 `Syllepsis` Released http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/webupd8/~3/aaE23LneORM/ancient-warfare-game-0-ad-alpha-19.html
[10:32] <CrazyLemon> .vreme koper
[10:32] <jabuk> ARSO: Koper Kapitanija (4m): 10.2°C @27.11.2015 10:00 UTC.
[10:32] <jabuk> Vlažnost: 38% vzhodnik 4.1 m/s (14.8 km/h)
[10:32] <jabuk> Sončni vzhod: 06:20:59, Kulminacija: 10:54:04, Sončni zahod: 15:27:08
[10:32] <jabuk> Dan je dolg: 9ur 06min 09s, Luna je v ščipu
[10:32] <CrazyLemon> tis windy today
[10:44] <CrazyLemon> https://scontent.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xpf1/v/t1.0-9/12301687_10206739362514037_5442510154174305575_n.jpg?oh=4e189662a8924b1942f9d8d5d1dde3bf&oe=56E9DEE4 <- tako pridejo teroristi v EU
[10:49] <yang> .vreme lj
[10:49] <jabuk> ARSO: Ljubljana (299m): 5.8°C @27.11.2015 10:30 UTC.
[10:49] <jabuk> Vlažnost: 61% jugovzhodnik 2.8 m/s (10.1 km/h)
[10:49] <jabuk> Sončni vzhod: 06:19:32, Kulminacija: 10:50:55, Sončni zahod: 15:22:17
[10:49] <jabuk> Dan je dolg: 9ur 02min 45s, Luna je v ščipu
[10:52] <CrazyLemon> http://www.siol.net/novice/slovenija/2015/11/kpk_zoran_jankovic.aspx
[10:52] <Pepelka> Novo poročilo KPK razkriva, koliko denarja je skril Zoran Janković | Slovenija - Planet Siol.net
[10:52] <Pepelka> »Komisija za preprečevanje korupcije (KPK) je objavila zaključne ugotovitve o nadzoru nad premoženjskim stanjem ljubljanskega župana Zorana Jankovića.«
[11:01] <msev-> ej a bi se dal tole buildat tut v win -> https://github.com/stronnag/mwptools
[11:01] <jabuk> http://www.gifbin.com/bin/20048442yu.gif
[11:01] <Pepelka> stronnag/mwptools · GitHub
[11:01] <Pepelka> »mwptools - planner and tools for multiwii nav«
[11:05] <dz0ny_> msev-: mspsim requires Posix pseudo-terminals.
[11:05] <dz0ny_> msev-: big no
[11:05] <dz0ny_> mislim tud delal nebi :)
[11:05] <msev-> :)
[12:01] <zdobersek> CrazyLemon: so deop maybe
[12:02] <Sky[x]> http://www.rtvslo.si/slovenija/klepetajte-o-prenovljenem-portalu-euprava/379665
[12:02] <Pepelka> Klepetajte o prenovljenem portalu eUprava :: Prvi interaktivni multimedijski portal, MMC RTV Slovenija
[12:02] <Pepelka> »V petek ob 12.30 bo gostja spletne klepetalnice Tatjana Mizori Zupan, vodja projekta prenove eUPrave. Prenovljeni in do uporabnika prijaznejši portal eUprava je zaživel pretekli ponedeljek.«
[12:03] <slax0r> nekdo ne mara freenode
[12:03] <slax0r> isis?
[12:36] <yang> [freenode] -mquin(~mquin@freenode/staff/mquin)- [Global Notice] We are again experiencing connectivity problems to some servers due to DDoS attacks. Please bear with us while we ride it out.
[12:36] <yang> Ze od vceraj traja napad
[12:45] <CrazyLemon> zdobersek are you a happy camper now?
[12:45] <zdobersek> aw yisss
[12:45] <zdobersek> enomalobolj bom srecen ko pride 6p
[12:46] <CrazyLemon> do not yisss on people in the channel pls
[12:46] <CrazyLemon> ty
[12:47] <CrazyLemon> that luck will be brief
[12:52] <zdobersek> naaah
[12:55] <dz0ny_> http://i.imgur.com/7eIwLOi.png
[12:56] <zdobersek> CrazyLemon_irl
[13:08] <idioterna> Sky[x]: mene na front page vrze
[13:11] <dz0ny_> idioterna: its over now
[13:11] <idioterna> a je kdo povedu da ne dela na linuxu
[13:13] <dz0ny_> niso skoz spustil :)
[13:13] <dz0ny_> kao drug let bo
[13:14] <zdobersek> microsoft ni pustu wink-wink
[13:15] <dz0ny_> no sej chat je bil v flashu narjen, tko da verjetn tud adobe ni pustu :D
[13:20] <zdobersek> aja
[13:20] <zdobersek> pol je pa tko najbrz hackable
[13:20] <zdobersek> freedom thus persists
[14:19] <Sky[x]> kva se kej splaca dons kupt k je black friday?
[14:25] <upd> ja isščem kak ssd
[14:25] <upd> https://slo-tech.com/forum/t658970/p4987218#p4987218 pa ni 10€
[14:25] <Pepelka> Black Friday v SLO? @ Slo-Tech
[14:28] <upd> je mislu 100€ :d
[14:38] <yang> a majo kej pametnega na mimovrste grem gledat
[14:42] <CrazyLemon> nexus 5x je $80 off na amazonu
[14:45] <zdobersek> doesn't matter, ordered 6p
[14:45] <CrazyLemon> smart..right before the price drop!
[14:45] <zdobersek> not of 6p
[14:45] <CrazyLemon> to bo za cyber monday
[14:47] <zdobersek> ne podpiram taksnega kapitalizma
[14:49] <CrazyLemon> he said after he payed $600 for a phone
[14:49] <CrazyLemon> paid of course
[14:51] <zdobersek> on a black friday
[14:51] <zdobersek> dayumn
[14:51] <zdobersek> caught me nexus-handed
[14:51] <pitko> brdan ! :D
[14:51] <yang> HTC Desire 320 70 EUR
[14:52] <yang> A v angleski Android lahko zloadas slovenski jezik ?
[14:56] <CrazyLemon> yang ne..ker ne obstaja 'angleski' android
[14:56] <CrazyLemon> android je international
[14:56] <pitko> jp
[15:00] <zdobersek> my android is your android
[15:01] <yang> kok pa je poslovenjen ?
[15:02] <zdobersek> zelo dobar
[15:03] <yang> eh
[15:03] <yang> tale HTC je zal razprodan
[15:24] <CrazyLemon> you snooze you lose
[15:33] <zdobbie> http://www.theverge.com/2015/11/27/9806554/spacex-falcon-9-debris-england
[15:33] <Pepelka> A piece of SpaceX's Falcon 9 rocket is sitting on a beach in England | The Verge
[15:33] <Pepelka> »A piece of SpaceX's Falcon 9 rocket has apparently been recovered in the UK, nearly five months after the spacecraft exploded in mid-flight. As the BBC reports, a 32-foot-long part of the rocket...«
[15:48] <idioterna> vazn da sm su s kolesom in se prec bols pocutm
[15:48] <idioterna> zgleda da res yang pretirava s tem strasenjem
[15:48] <idioterna> zdej tut lazje razumem zakaj tok jamra
[15:49] <idioterna> k premal spodbuja krvni pretok!
[15:58] <zdobbie> what a Bern-around https://www.reddit.com/r/SandersForPresident/comments/3ufg7l/everyone_in_my_family_is_switching_back_to_the/
[15:58] <Pepelka> Everyone in my family is switching back to the Democratic party to vote for Bernie : SandersForPresident
[15:58] <Pepelka> »I'm in a family of left-leaning Independents who quit the Democrats in disgust a few years back. After talking over turkey and stuffing, I...«
[16:03] <yang> idioterna: drugic lahk kompenziras s kaksnim ta kratkim, enga ruknes pa se bos prec bolje pocutil
[16:10] <idioterna> dobra ideja
[16:10] <idioterna> ce to ne dela pa najbols kr heroin ane
[16:30] <upd> http://www.theguardian.com/science/2015/nov/27/smoking-high-strength-cannabis-skunk-may-damage-nerves-brain
[16:30] <Pepelka> Smoking high-strength cannabis may damage nerve fibres in brain | Science | The Guardian
[16:30] <Pepelka> »Study suggests high levels of skunk use may affect the brain’s white matter, making communication between the right and left hemispheres less efficient«
[16:34] <idioterna> upd: lies
[16:35] <idioterna> to je tko k tist da cigarete raka povzrocajo
[16:35] <idioterna> ce bi blo to res bi ble cigarete prepovedane
[16:36] <upd> prevelika količina tud ne povzroči okvare jeter ?
[16:36] <upd> alkohola*
[16:36] <CrazyLemon> nope..ce bi bilo tako bi bil alkohol prepovedan
[16:36] <upd> lol.
[16:37] <upd> mam prjatla k se ga vsak petek in soboto napil do kome
[16:37] <upd> pa je pristal v bolnici zarad okvare jeter
[16:37] <idioterna> nakonc bos se reku da se od prevelike kolicine vode loh utopis
[16:37] <idioterna> sovrazna propaganda!
[16:38] <upd> lol such troll
[16:55] <CrazyLemon> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Water_intoxication#Notable_cases
[16:55] <Pepelka> Water intoxication - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
[16:55] <CrazyLemon> idioterna ^
[16:55] <CrazyLemon> vidiš da se lahko utopiš!
[17:02] <idioterna> upd: ja yang je reku da js pravm da je trava neskodljiva
[17:02] <idioterna> zdej se pa probam drzat tega
[17:05] <CrazyLemon> .rt
[17:05] <jabuk> Trenutno se predvaja: Hindi Zahra - Stand up. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YI2XuIOW3gM
[17:15] <zdobersek> no
[17:20] <CrazyLemon> you should.. you and your how did you call it..sensitive? rear end
[17:22] <Sky[x]> http://livestream.com/zivo/Ruby-Meetup
[17:22] <Pepelka> Ruby Meetup on Livestream
[17:22] <Pepelka> »Watch vzivo's Ruby Meetup on Livestream.com. It was a long summer and now it's time to start a new meetup season. We'll meet again in the Poligon Creative Centre as the last 2 times, but everything else has changed. Well, not everything, but we'll have 2 new interesting talks by Damjan and Islam, live streaming and recording by V Živo, and one free drink per attendee by Codeable. How awesome is that?Damjan Rems will present DRGCMS - a custom build
[17:25] <msev-> http://imgur.com/a/l37di CrazyLemon kero bi kupu :D
[17:25] <Pepelka> Pebble Watch vs Garmin vivoactive - Album on Imgur
[17:25] <Pepelka> »Imgur: The most awesome images on the Internet.«
[17:25] <CrazyLemon> msev- depends
[17:25] <CrazyLemon> kaj želiš
[17:25] <CrazyLemon> battery life ali sport watch
[17:25] <CrazyLemon> js bi raje garmina
[17:25] <msev-> z obema lahko podobn dosežem
[17:25] <msev-> k sta zlo podobne
[17:26] <msev-> razn tega da ma garmin svoj gps
[17:26] <CrazyLemon> pa HR belt
[17:26] <msev-> k za pebble je dost appov da lahko športne zadeve nadomestim
[17:26] <CrazyLemon> pa ant+ support verjetno tudi
[17:27] <msev-> ja sam HR bi me zanimal ampak to mam app na pebblu k supporta (Ventoo Bike)
[17:27] <msev-> za waypointe pa razdalje mam pa geocaching app
[17:27] <msev-> na pebblu
[17:28] <msev-> na garminu je pa šele ta mesc en naredu tak app
[17:28] <msev-> in je tut kul
[17:28] <msev-> :)
[17:28] <msev-> 65usd vs 170eur
[17:28] <CrazyLemon> msev- če imaš pebble zakaj potrebuješ še enga?
[17:28] <msev-> nimam
[17:28] <msev-> :D
[17:28] <idioterna> CrazyLemon: k ma dve roki, halo?
[17:28] <CrazyLemon> "to mam app na pebblu"
[17:28] <CrazyLemon> :D
[17:28] <msev-> :)
[17:28] <msev-> manjka še "na voljo"
[17:29] <idioterna> a ti mas sam eno zapestje?
[17:29] <CrazyLemon> msev- kupi tist kar ti srce (denarnica) želi!
[17:29] <zdobersek> 6p
[17:29] <msev-> sj bi mel obe ane :D
[17:29] <CrazyLemon> bratranec ima vivothingie in zgleda ok
[17:29] <msev-> ma notr je ful dim
[17:29] <CrazyLemon> tist black&white pa ..kaj pa vem ane :)
[17:29] <msev-> v prostoru
[17:29] <msev-> lah vidš na temu linku
[17:30] <msev-> da ma pebble ful bl kontrastn zaslon
[17:30] <idioterna> moja religija mi prepoveduje met stvari na zapestjih
[17:30] <msev-> to je edina stvar k me mot pr garminu poleg cene :D
[17:31] <CrazyLemon> msev- pol kupi pebble? k js slišim sam 'i want pebble but i just need your confirmation' :D
[17:32] <msev-> sam tko v ozadju mi pa garmin govori bye me
[17:32] <msev-> mislm buy*
[17:32] <msev-> lollolol
[17:32] <idioterna> vseen je
[17:32] <idioterna> kupi cenejso
[17:32] <msev-> ej en coding question mam plz
[17:32] <zdobersek> msev-: you can haz your pebble
[17:32] <msev-> spet
[17:33] <zdobersek> std::max(pebble, garmin) == pebble
[17:33] <zdobersek> np
[17:33] <zdobersek> yw
[17:33] <idioterna> msev-: {} je valid
[17:33] <msev-> hahahaha
[17:33] <msev-> :)
[17:33] <zdobersek> typeof(0 + "") == lolno
[17:33] <idioterna> zdobersek: is this true?
[17:34] <zdobersek> lol no ?
[17:34] <idioterna> mislm uno prej
[17:34] <jabuk> https://i.imgur.com/BiSkH5D.png
[17:34] <msev-> https://codebender.cc/sketch:138368#ParkingSensor.ino -> kle od L116 poglejte naprej
[17:34] <Pepelka> ParkingSensor by MySensors
[17:34] <Pepelka> »A web platform for hackers, makers and artists. Code, store and manage your Arduino sketches on the cloud, and even compile them and flash them to your Arduino. Right from your browser.«
[17:34] <zdobersek> idioterna: gcc -Dpebble=2 -Dgarmin=1 maxxx.c
[17:34] <msev-> tale spremenljivka int parked, a se da iz kode vidt kašne vrednosti lah zavzema?
[17:34] <idioterna> a
[17:35] <msev-> a je sam true al false...pač ali je avto parkiran ali ni
[17:35] <zdobersek> odvisno, kolk loh v int zapakiras
[17:35] <zdobersek> recmo od -2**31 do 2**31
[17:36] <zdobersek> msev-: bolj primeren bi bil tu boolean
[17:37] <zdobersek> i.e. 1 or 0
[17:37] <zdobersek> ce ma to arduinov C
[17:37] <msev-> k rd bi zapakiral to zadevo v en protokol za pametno hišo
[17:38] <msev-> zato me zanima kašne vrednosti ma ta parked, da pol lah tapravo zadevo izberem
[17:38] <msev-> sj vem kok ma ponavad int, ampak a je kle kšna fora
[17:38] <msev-> da je sam 1 ali 0
[17:38] <msev-> al kko ve če je parked al ni .D
[17:39] <zdobersek> jah assignment je itak iz boolean vrednote v integer
[17:39] <zdobersek> s/vrednote/vrednosti/
[17:39] <msev-> dj povej po kmečk k sm farmacevt :D
[17:39] <msev-> ker del kode morm gledat
[17:40] <zdobersek> int parked = displayDist != 0 && displayDist<PARKED_DISTANCE;
[17:40] <zdobersek> displayDist != 0 -- vrze ven true/false
[17:40] <zdobersek> displayDist<PARKED_DISTANCE -- vrze ven true/false
[17:40] <zdobersek> && je AND op
[17:40] <msev-> to vem da je to and
[17:41] <msev-> aha pol je ubistvu to enako
[17:41] <zdobersek> 0 && 0 == 0
[17:41] <zdobersek> 0 && 1 == 0
[17:41] <zdobersek> 1 && 0 == 0
[17:41] <zdobersek> 1 && 1 == 1
[17:41] <msev-> a pol lahko uporabm kr direkt parked
[17:41] <zdobersek> true/false mas tam noter, v tem integerju
[17:43] <msev-> a pol parked zavzema 0 ali 1?
[17:44] <zdobersek> ya
[17:44] <msev-> odlično najlepša ti dala :)
[17:44] <msev-> zj bom pa zatežiu tm na mailing listi k mi pomoje napačn ta "typical" svetuje
[17:44] <msev-> ti bom naprej pokazov neki :)
[17:45] <msev-> https://github.com/souliss/souliss/blob/friariello/Typicals.h lej kle L41
[17:45] <Pepelka> souliss/Typicals.h at friariello · souliss/souliss · GitHub
[17:45] <Pepelka> »souliss - Arduino based Distributed Networking Framework for Smart Homes and IoT«
[17:45] <msev-> pomoje ni taprav, ker piše da je // Pulse Digital Output
[17:45] <CrazyLemon> en github tip..če na levi klikneš na vrstico
[17:45] <CrazyLemon> lahko linkaš direkt na tisto vrstico
[17:45] <msev-> aja lepa :D
[17:45] <msev-> thanks
[17:46] <msev-> woo amaze
[17:46] <msev-> https://github.com/souliss/souliss/blob/friariello/Typicals.h#L41
[17:46] <Pepelka> souliss/Typicals.h at friariello · souliss/souliss · GitHub
[17:46] <Pepelka> »souliss - Arduino based Distributed Networking Framework for Smart Homes and IoT«
[17:49] <msev-> zj portam ta mysensors senzor v souliss framework
[17:49] <msev-> ker ta souliss ma vse senzorje k jih želim razn tega za detektirat avto v garaži npr
[17:53] <msev-> hmmm al pa je prov ta pulse digital output, k to je mogoče pol tko 5V (1) oz. GND (0)
[17:54] <msev-> oz v primeru esp-ja 3.3v(1) gnd (0)
[18:03] <dz0ny_> http://imgur.com/gallery/rdBrH
[18:03] <Pepelka> Work Stories: JHS ESL teacher in Japan - Album on Imgur
[18:03] <Pepelka> »Imgur: The most awesome images on the Internet.«
[18:13] <upd> i miss a picture of that teacher
[18:14] <dz0ny_> upd: sej je
[18:15] <upd> al je neka random
[19:09] <zdobbie> !ready
[19:14] <idioterna> zdobbie: CrazyLemon
[19:15] <idioterna> duty calls, but not call of duty.
[19:19] <zdobbie> .yt duty srubs
[19:19] <jabuk> Scrubs - Are they laughing at the word duty? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xYJ4PybpKco
[19:23] <CrazyLemon> private CrazyLemon reporting for duty but not booty
[19:23] <idioterna> booty's fine, too
[20:22] <yang> upd: tole si videl https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K8kua5B5K3I
[20:22] <Pepelka> Life Inside a Secret Chinese Bitcoin Mine - YouTube
[20:22] <Pepelka> »Subscribe to Motherboard Radio today! http://apple.co/1DWdc9d In October of last year Motherboard gained access to a massive, secretive Bitcoin mine housed w...«
[20:22] <upd> yang, da
[21:21] <Sky[x]> dan
[22:17] <netkat> na, se shodan ma black friday https://twitter.com/shodanhq/status/670363872608387072
[22:17] <Pepelka> Shodan auf Twitter: "Black Friday Sale: Shodan Membership for $5 instead of $49 - https://t.co/e6mRc8Cry1"
[22:17] <netkat> se ziher splaca:D
[22:53] <Sky[x]> a tole je neki novega? https://hexchat.github.io/
[22:53] <Pepelka> Home – HexChat
[22:53] <Pepelka> »HexChat, an open-source, cross-platform IRC client«
[22:54] <CrazyLemon> nope
[23:06] <speed-> verjetno se glih ne zgodi pogosto, da se na novo irc client dela dan danes :)
[23:07] <idioterna> hexchat je pa res str
[23:13] <upd> i use hexchat
[23:13] <upd> cuz xchat no free win
[23:13] <jabuk> http://rack.3.mshcdn.com/media/ZgkyMDEzLzA4LzA1L2U1L2NvbGJlcnRyZXBvLjVjNmYxLmdpZgpwCXRodW1iCTg1MHg1OTA-CmUJanBn/710824a0/764/colbert-report.jpg
[23:13] <upd> idioterna, http://www.grad-polhovgradec.si/pdf/program_miklavzev_sejem_2015.pdf
[23:14] <upd> če boš otroke peljal na izlet :)
[23:18] <upd> and /off
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2015-11-27-#ubuntu-cz
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[15:07] <uxes> AHoj, je tady nekdo?
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ubuntu-chat
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2024-05-13T22:11:19.629103
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2015-11-27-#ubuntu-africa
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[19:45] <melodie> hello bonsoir
[20:21] <melodie> salut elacheche
[20:22] <elacheche> Bonsoir melodie !
[20:22] <melodie> :-)
[20:22] <melodie> comment ça va aujourd'hui ?
[20:23] <elacheche> Trés fatigué x) Et toi?
[20:23] <melodie> sommeil, mais ça va
[20:23] <melodie> tu as encore les yeux ouverts ? :D
[20:24] <elacheche> Oui.. J'ai des homeworks à finir avant de dormir :-3
[20:25] <melodie> oh good!
[20:25] <melodie> elacheche j'ai mis en ligne une version tout à fait à jour et améliorée, de Bento Openbox Trusty, pour 32 et 64bits, et le nouveau site est opérationnel aussi. http://bentovillage.me
[20:26] <melodie> tous ceux qui souhaitent le plus léger et facile peuvent en profiter
[20:26] <melodie> par contre y'a encore beaucoup à faire pour la présentation, des docs... et plus
[20:27] <elacheche> Pense a publier un truc sur les réseaux sociaux à propos de ça ;) ça peut être plus facile que faire des prez/docs etc..
[20:33] <melodie> elacheche tu as des suggestions par rapport à quoi publier ? parce que si c'est pas une présentation, qu'est-ce que ce sera ?
[20:34] <melodie> en général je publie sur WordPress qui est configuré pour poster sur les réseaux en même temps. par contre, il faudrait que je fasse une page Facebook, mais je ne sais pas trop si je dois la lier à mon compte perso. là je suis un peu dans le vague
[20:34] <elacheche> Un tweet :D
[20:35] <melodie> WordPress : twitte pour moi
[20:35] <elacheche> melodie: Essaie de commencer avec un tweet, et choisi les bons hashtags, comme #openbox #light #leger etc..
[20:36] <melodie> ùé
[20:36] <melodie> méheu
[20:36] <melodie> ça veut rien dire #light #leger hors contexte
[20:36] <melodie> ?
[20:37] <melodie> je vais faire une recherche sur twitter avec ces hashtags pour voir :)
[20:39] <elacheche> melodie: Un tweet c'est 140 chars.. Essaie d'utiliser les bons # dans une petite paragraphe + lien ;)
[20:40] <melodie> ok merci elacheche
[20:43] <elacheche> When you tweet ping me! I'll retweet ;)
[20:47] <melodie> thanks !
[20:51] <melodie> elacheche I'll tweet this : "#ubuntu #openbox #light Bento Openbox 14.04.3 updated! http://bentovillage.me/en/telechargements/"
[20:52] <melodie> from my account meylodie
[20:52] <elacheche> Good idea!
[20:52] <elacheche> Tweet it and let's see what'll result ;)
[20:53] <melodie> https://twitter.com/meylodie/status/670344402099953666
[21:24] <melodie> elacheche merci pour le retweet !
[21:25] <elacheche> :)
[21:25] <melodie> elacheche j'ai un compte iaas chez gandi, où je peux me connecter en ssh, et je peux aussi construire les isos avec customizer.
[21:26] <melodie> je voudrais que tu me dises, si tu sais si quand je chroot pour modifier l'iso, ça peut avoir une incidence sur l'environnement hors chroot, si je fais un do-release-upgrade -d ?
[21:27] <melodie> juste parce que j'ai eu un avertissement quand j'ai lancé la commande dans le chroot
[21:27] <melodie> "This session appears to be running under ssh. It is not recommended
[21:27] <melodie> to perform a upgrade over ssh currently because in case of failure it
[21:27] <melodie> is harder to recover."
[21:28] <elacheche> Non je pense pas, car le chroot doit être totalement isoler par rapport au iaas
[21:28] <melodie> ah. ça dit aussi:
[21:28] <melodie> "If you continue, an additional ssh daemon will be started at port
[21:28] <melodie> '1022'.
[21:28] <melodie> "
[21:29] <melodie> sais-tu m'expliquer ce que ça signifie ?
[21:29] <melodie> cela correspondrait au chroot ou bien au système du serveur iaas ?
[21:30] <elacheche> Emmm.. ssh est sur le iaas ou sur le chroot?
[21:30] <melodie> ssh est depuis ma machine en local vers le iaas
[21:30] <melodie> mais il a été détecté dans le chroot
[21:31] <elacheche> Emmm.. bizarre :/ Je peux pas répondre.. J'ai pas essayé cette situation avant :/
[21:32] <elacheche> Dans un cas de do-release-upgrade sur un VPS ou IAAS standard, ssh sera lancer sur 1022 en cas de problème ou crash la machine restera accessible via un port non standard.. mais là je sais pas si il va faire ça pour le chroot ou iaas :/
[21:34] <melodie> bon je demanderai aux gandiens. ça peut bien attendre jusqu'à demain au besoin. :)
[21:34] <elacheche> :)
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2015-11-27-#ubuntustudio-devel
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[10:39] <sakrecoer_> OvenWerk1: hehe.... old and classy! Look up "vapor wave" and you will start to wonder, weather your old xfig isn't going to become modern again soon :D
[10:42] <sakrecoer_> anyways i fully agree that matching desktop is the way to go...
[15:05] <OvenWerk1> zequence: Can we try clearing out our desktop seed and just putting in xubuntu-desktop? (just to see what happens) We may need to add replaces lines in some of our setting packages and blacklist some of their other packages... but maybe not too.
[15:07] <OvenWerk1> zequence: maybe if we load some of our settings packages before the desktop with the right "replaces" in place it will "just work"
[18:41] <zequence> OvenWerk1: I think we should try by just creating some custom packates on a PPA. Should be possible to do custom installations with ubiquity making changes to the sources before installing
[18:41] <zequence> Haven't tried that yet
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ubuntu-chat
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2024-05-13T22:11:19.652524
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2015-11-27-#ubuntu-us-fl
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[02:36] <mhall119> ahoneybun: pong
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ubuntu-chat
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2015-11-27-#juju-dev
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[00:15] <davechen1y> thumper: menn0 axw https://github.com/juju/testing/pull/85
[00:15] <davechen1y> ^ for skipping go 1.5 failing tests
[00:19] <mup> Bug #1520380 opened: worker/provisioner: unit tests fail on xenial <juju-core:New> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1520380>
[00:21] <thumper> davechen1y: kk
[00:21] <menn0> thumper: ship it
[00:22] <thumper> davechen1y: why use the testing change instead of just using the go version in the code?
[00:22] <thumper> davechen1y: what does it buy us?
[00:23] <davechen1y> thumper: same as https://github.com/juju/testing/pull/84
[00:24] <davechen1y> we're probably going to need to do it in a bunch of places
[00:24] <davechen1y> using build constraints requires at least 5 files
[00:24] <davechen1y> better to put it in one place, than replicate those turds across every package we have to skip conditionally
[00:24] <thumper> ok
[00:24] <thumper> good enough for me
[00:25] <davechen1y> also, when we're done with this, it's one place to delete
[00:25] * thumper nods
[00:25] <menn0> davechen1y: I know I said Ship it, but one annoyance with this scheme is that we have to keep adding files as new Go versions come out
[00:25] <davechen1y> menn0: yes, and no
[00:25] <menn0> Parsing the output of https://golang.org/pkg/runtime/#Version is another option
[00:25] <davechen1y> you only need to add a new file if you want to identify that version of go
[00:25] <davechen1y> go 1.6 will identify as go 1.5 under this scheme
[00:25] <davechen1y> and also, when/if that happens, it happens in one place
[00:26] <davechen1y> and when we're done with this aweful hack, we can delete it in one palce
[00:26] <davechen1y> and when we're done with this aweful hack, we can delete it in one place
[00:27] <menn0> davechen1y: i'm fine with the approach, just wondering if using runtime.Version would be slightly better. it's fine the way it is.
[00:27] <davechen1y> it would be messier
[00:27] <davechen1y> parsing, yeah easy enough
[00:27] <davechen1y> but we'd lose the constant nature of these constnts
[00:27] <davechen1y> you'd get a float64, and get shat on by precision
[00:27] <davechen1y> equals may not work
[00:28] <davechen1y> doing it this way gives us equality between ideal constants
[00:28] <davechen1y> if testing.GOVERSION == 1.5 is a constant expression
[00:29] <davechen1y> i suspect if we did it by parsing runtime.Version, we'd end up _also_ defining a bunch of constants then returning those constnat values
[00:29] <davechen1y> which would also be forced throught float64 coercion, blah blah
[00:30] <davechen1y> this is less worse doing it this way
[00:30] <davechen1y> and if it feels a bit icky, that's good
[00:30] <davechen1y> we should be skiping all this crap
[00:34] <davechen1y> https://github.com/juju/juju/pull/3839
[00:34] <davechen1y> ^ trivial review
[00:34] <davechen1y> axw: mgz_ http://juju-ci.vapour.ws/job/run-unit-tests-xenial-amd64/129/consoleFull
[00:34] <davechen1y> ^ what job triggers this build, is it build-revisions ?
[00:35] <mgz_> it's not triggered in jenkins, the comment at the top is what tells lp:ci-director to run it, as soon as build-revison happens
[00:36] <mgz_> from last night though, if you want to re-run a job
[00:36] <mgz_> just login as developer per creds in lp:cloud-city
[00:37] <mgz_> "build now" and give it the build revision job number (which serves as an index for all tests from one run)
[00:37] <davechen1y> ok, so if I land a fix for the xenial test failure, i should wait for build-revision to pick it up
[00:37] <mgz_> yeah, to run a new revison just wait for it to go through ci as normal
[00:39] <davechen1y> mgz_: I noticed that if I kill a -race job that is working on a branch which I know will never pass
[00:39] <davechen1y> ci just runs it again
[00:39] <davechen1y> is there any way to avoid this ?
[00:39] <davechen1y> it wastes 3 hours every time it chews on some branch that will never pass
[00:40] <mgz_> davechen1y: change failure-threshhold to 1
[00:40] <mgz_> issue with that being... the tests do randomly fail sometimes
[00:40] <davechen1y> mgz_: meh
[00:40] <mgz_> so we get curses which retesting will 'cure;
[00:41] <davechen1y> if they fail sometimes, i'll comment 'em out
[00:41] <mgz_> davechen1y: what you can do for that manual thing
[00:41] <mgz_> is change it to one then... hm.. actually, you'd need to change it back after the entire run finished, which would suck
[00:42] <mgz_> davechen1y: the problem with the just0skip-it approach
[00:42] <davechen1y> hmm
[00:42] <davechen1y> it sounds like I should just live with it
[00:42] <davechen1y> this problem will solve itself soon enough when feature branches rebase
[00:42] <mgz_> well, problem one is we've been historically bad at fixing unreliable tests, skipping them just makes the problem easier to ignore
[00:43] <davechen1y> mgz_: no argument there
[00:43] <mgz_> davechen1y: we can chose to not run race vs feature branches... well, that's bad long term, but we could blacklist a few now
[00:43] <mgz_> anyway, problem two with skipping tests is sometimes it's like, "this entire suite is flakey"
[00:43] <davechen1y> mgz_: nah, this problem will solve itself soon enough
[00:43] <mgz_> losing *all* our uniter coverage say, is bad
[00:44] <davechen1y> mgz_: no arguemnt there
[00:44] <mgz_> we've shipped bad code in the past because tests have been ignored
[00:44] <davechen1y> i'm stuck between a rock and a hard place
[00:44] <mgz_> indeed
[00:44] <davechen1y> thumper: do you have any comment on this position ?
[00:44] <thumper> how far back do I need to read?
[00:45] <davechen1y> 2 minutes
[00:45] <davechen1y> 4 at most
[00:45] <davechen1y> mgz_: rightly points out that historically skipping a failing package takes the issue off the radar
[00:45] <mgz_> thumper: I write concisely and with clarity, surely reading isn't that much of a chore for you ;_;
[00:45] <davechen1y> i don't disagree, but historically fixing flakey tests, especially races as been an uphill battle
[00:45] <davechen1y> meaning we have no race coverage, so nothing prevening new races coming in
[00:46] <mgz_> I think your approach on making -race useful was good
[00:46] <thumper> hmm...
[00:46] <thumper> I understand the races one
[00:46] <thumper> as people kept adding them too frequently
[00:46] <mgz_> the tests just took way too long and had too much random output to be good without culling a bunch
[00:46] <thumper> I'm guessing that the wily failures are more limited?
[00:46] <thumper> as in we know which ones fail often?
[00:47] <davechen1y> xenial has 1 failure
[00:47] <davechen1y> worker/provisioner
[00:47] <mgz_> welll... there's a few obvious bugs, like lxd borked a few tests
[00:47] <davechen1y> skipping that for go 1.5 gets us a voting go 1.5 build
[00:47] <mgz_> and there's a few new intermittent failures, which... could be a number of things
[00:47] <davechen1y> which is crucial for upgrading to go 1.5
[00:47] <thumper> what's the difference between failures on xenial and wily?
[00:47] <davechen1y> no idea
[00:47] <davechen1y> haven't looked at wily
[00:47] <mgz_> and we get, possibily just a different symptom of, mongodb related failure
[00:47] <mgz_> they're much the same
[00:48] <mgz_> the package set hasn't really diverged, and it's all go 1.5
[00:48] * davechen1y is not touching the mongodb debt clusterfuck
[00:48] <mgz_> if it's just the mongodb panic we can probably contain that
[00:48] <mgz_> run three times, hope, etc, as previously
[00:49] <thumper> davechen1y: how about just fixing the test rather than skipping it if it is just one?
[00:49] <thumper> my main concern is that with 1.5
[00:50] <thumper> if we are skipping a lot of tests
[00:50] <thumper> and losing coverage
[00:50] <thumper> we are losing faith that the code works
[00:50] <davechen1y> thumper: this is worker/provisioner
[00:50] <davechen1y> its riddled with timing issues
[00:50] <davechen1y> there have been bugs open against that packge for near 2 years
[00:51] <davechen1y> so clearly there is no priority in fixing it
[00:52] <thumper> so my point stands, if go 1.5 is more likely to cause problems in the provisioner due to the way things run
[00:52] <thumper> I'd rather have a failing test than a skipped test
[00:53] <thumper> my stance is generally this:
[00:53] <thumper> skipping shitty tests is one thing
[00:53] <thumper> but skipping good tests that show bad code is wrong
[00:53] <mgz_> davechen1y: aside, I just added some code to the -race job config to show skipping particilar feature branches you know will fail, feel free to fill in branch names
[00:53] <davechen1y> you're fine with skipping packages with known data races, but you're concerned about skipping a package with logical timing issues ?!?
[00:53] <davechen1y> mgz_: thanks!
[00:54] <thumper> davechen1y: well...
[00:54] <thumper> the tests pass.. FSVO pass
[00:54] <davechen1y> you cannot choose which is the lesser issue
[00:54] <thumper> perhaps it is just a false sense of security
[00:54] <davechen1y> you cannot choose which is the lesser evil
[00:54] <davechen1y> every package I skip is tracked with an LP issue
[00:54] <davechen1y> make them critical blockers if you like
[00:55] <thumper> davechen1y: do you have tags on them?
[00:55] <thumper> if not, please add some
[00:55] <mgz_> well, I guess the real issue is how close we are to getting stuff actually fixed in races vs 1.5 - I think there's probably only two issues we need looked at for 1.5 to get at least a resonable rate of blue
[00:55] <davechen1y> thumper: nope, no tags
[00:55] <davechen1y> which tags would you like ?
[00:56] <mgz_> skipped-test
[00:56] <mgz_> is what I have used
[00:56] <davechen1y> bzzr
[00:56] <davechen1y> bzzt
[00:56] <davechen1y> no new tag
[00:56] <thumper> how about skipped-test + ci-failure + ci-test name?
[00:56] <davechen1y> we have so many tags for "critical", "omg critical", "exploding customer", etc
[00:56] <davechen1y> adding another tag is a net negative
[00:56] <davechen1y> I think we should use milestones and LP status
[00:56] <thumper> a tag for skipped-test is fine
[00:58] <davechen1y> i disagree
[00:58] <davechen1y> historically tags have proved bad at communicating severity or priority
[00:58] <davechen1y> i think we should use LP severity
[00:58] <mgz_> I agree with that, but it's not really a tag thing
[00:58] <davechen1y> which will automatically fit into the work that cherylj is doing with her dashboards
[00:59] <davechen1y> for example, we already have several tags for data-race
[00:59] <mgz_> the main issue is no one looks at bugs as part of their daily workflow (well, except curtis, and we made him stop)
[00:59] <davechen1y> none have proven to motivate people to fix them
[00:59] <davechen1y> mgz_: no argument here
[00:59] <davechen1y> mgz_: no argument there
[01:00] <mgz_> so, no one was taking bugs off the list of new issues and working on them unless instructed, either by hammer-on-head or by ci going into sirens-mode
[01:01] <davechen1y> mgz_: yup, so here is my proposition
[01:01] <davechen1y> skip the tests, get the jobs voting, fix the skipped tests
[01:01] <davechen1y> we've tried to do it in another order for some time now
[01:01] <davechen1y> without success
[01:01] <davechen1y> time to try something else
[01:01] <davechen1y> note: tests are skiped only in specific conditions, which are only true for a subset of CI builds
[01:02] <davechen1y> I am not unilaterally disabling the tests of a packge
[01:02] <davechen1y> mgz_: thumper for example, https://github.com/juju/juju/pull/3840/files
[01:05] <davechen1y> https://bugs.launchpad.net/juju-core/+bug/1520380
[01:05] <mup> Bug #1520380: worker/provisioner: unit tests fail on xenial <juju-core:Confirmed> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1520380>
[01:24] <axw> davechen1y: I think I have a fix for that test
[01:25] <thumper> found another bug
[01:26] <thumper> when status should indicate that an agent is down
[01:26] <thumper> it only sets the old status
[01:28] <thumper> ah this is so f'ed up
[01:31] <davechen1y> thumper: where was the log and return nil ?
[01:32] <thumper> instance poller
[01:32] <thumper> it should be setting the instance status to missing / unknown / down whatever
[01:33] <davechen1y> thumper: urgh
[01:33] <davechen1y> do you want me to take a pass at fixing that, or are you on it ?
[01:34] <davechen1y> axw: sure, if you reckon you have a fix then we can put my PR on the shelf
[01:34] <axw> davechen1y: just running all tests now, should have a PR up shortly
[01:38] <davechen1y> axw: thanks!
[01:44] <thumper> wallyworld: what is up with your hangouts today?
[01:44] <wallyworld> nfi
[01:44] <wallyworld> i'm here
[01:45] <thumper> I can't hear you on the hangout
[01:45] <wallyworld> thumper: reconnecting, google has been bad today for me
[01:45] <wallyworld> docs as well
[01:48] <axw> davechen1y: FYI, http://reviews.vapour.ws/r/3260/
[01:54] <davechen1y> axw: hmm
[01:54] <davechen1y> that isn't the same issue
[01:54] <davechen1y> https://launchpad.net/bugs/1520380
[01:54] <mup> Bug #1520380: worker/provisioner: unit tests fail on xenial <juju-core:Confirmed> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1520380>
[01:55] <thumper> wallyworld: sorry, giving up on the hangout
[01:55] <wallyworld> thumper: yeah, sorry
[01:55] <wallyworld> nfi
[01:56] <wallyworld> google is shite today
[01:56] <thumper> wallyworld: I'm going to write up a small spec re presense properly
[01:56] <wallyworld> ok
[01:56] <axw> davechen1y: it is, grep for "unknown container type: lxd"
[01:56] <davechen1y> fair enough
[01:56] <davechen1y> lets commit it and see what happens
[01:58] <thumper> axw: do you have a few minutes? wallyworld said you have thought quite a bit about presense already
[01:58] <thumper> and I'm right in that head space
[01:58] <thumper> axw: no worries if you don't have time
[01:58] <axw> thumper: can do, but meant to have a 1:1 with wallyworld in 2mins
[01:58] <wallyworld> axw: we can delay our 1:1
[01:58] <axw> ok
[01:58] <wallyworld> ping me when free
[01:58] <axw> thumper: sure, name a place
[01:58] <axw> wallyworld: okey dokey
[01:59] <thumper> axw: https://plus.google.com/hangouts/_/canonical.com/presence?authuser=1
[02:14] <axw> wallyworld: ready
[02:16] <mgz_> menn0: I <3 u
[02:16] <wallyworld> ok
[02:16] <davechen1y> thumper: mwhudson https://groups.google.com/d/topic/golang-dev/y-mlM-XYysk/discussion
[02:16] <wallyworld> mgz_: do you want to share a room with him?
[02:17] <mgz_> that may now be dangerous
[02:17] * menn0 is glad we have our own rooms in Oakland
[02:17] <axw> davechen1y: nice :)
[02:17] <mwhudson> davechen1y: oh hooray
[02:18] <davechen1y> i'm gobsmacked they did it in secrecy
[02:18] <mwhudson> yeah, seems insane
[02:18] <mwhudson> glad they're talking about it
[02:18] <mwhudson> still no link to the source though...
[02:19] <menn0> mgz_: so as well as 1.23 being a plague release, we know that 1.21 is dangerous too (well, only if any upgrade step fails)
[02:19] <davechen1y> mwhudson: i do hope they based their work of Go 1.5 or later
[02:19] <mgz_> yeah, we should have apparently just kept the whol odd-numbers-are-bad thing
[02:19] <davechen1y> if they used 1.4
[02:19] <mwhudson> davechen1y: ah uh yes
[02:19] <davechen1y> that will be, complicated
[02:19] <anastasiamac> mgz_: menn0 <3s scotch (probably safer than sharing a room...)
[02:21] <menn0> mgz_: and before you get too excited... the bug I found was created by me :(
[02:21] * menn0 hangs his head in shame
[02:21] <mgz_> ehehe, that just makes it more amusing
[02:21] <anastasiamac> double the scotch then \o/
[02:22] <menn0> i'm glad it only exists in 1.21.N releases
[02:30] <thumper> davechen1y: nice
[02:31] <mup> Bug #1520314 changed: Environment not usable after upgrade from 1.21.3 -> 1.25.0 fails with '"cannot retrieve meter status for unit xxx/0: not found"' <sts> <upgrade-juju> <juju-core:Invalid> <juju-core 1.21:Won't Fix by menno.smits> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1520314>
[02:52] <davechen1y> axw: sorry, your change did not fix the problem I am seeing
[02:53] <davechen1y> mgz_: the build-revision job appears to be disabled
[02:53] <davechen1y> is that how it works, or is that a mistake ?
[02:53] <davechen1y> axw: http://paste.ubuntu.com/13522160/
[02:59] <axw> davechen1y: is that from juju-ci, or your machine?
[02:59] <davechen1y> my machine
[02:59] <davechen1y> but matches exaclty what I see for the xenial build
[03:00] <axw> davechen1y: gah, I must have missed something. I'm getting it too
[03:01] <axw> looking now
[03:03] <davechen1y> ta
[03:03] <axw> davechen1y: no, sorry, I just hadn't pulled master. works on my machine ... :/
[03:03] <axw> davechen1y: can you confirm that "instance/container_go13.go" is not in your tree?
[03:04] <davechen1y> lucky(~/src/github.com/juju/juju/worker/provisioner) % ls
[03:04] <davechen1y> container_initialisation.go export_test.go kvm-broker_test.go logging_test.go lxc-broker_test.go provisioner.go provisioner_test.go
[03:04] <davechen1y> container_initialisation_test.go kvm-broker.go logging.go lxc-broker.go package_test.go provisioner_task.go
[03:05] <davechen1y> hmm, are we looking at the same thing ?
[03:05] <davechen1y> afk for a bit
[03:05] <axw> davechen1y: what's in github.com/juju/juju/instance ?
[03:05] <axw> ok
[03:18] <davechen1y> ok, crisis averted
[03:29] <davechen1y> axw: lucky(~/src/github.com/juju/juju/instance) % ls
[03:29] <davechen1y> container.go container_test.go instance.go instance_test.go placement.go placement_test.go testing
[03:29] <axw> davechen1y: welp, I dunno then. I kicked off a build-revision job anyway
[03:57] <thumper> hmm...
[03:57] <thumper> wallyworld: I have a few questions about unit agent status
[03:57] <wallyworld> ok
[04:01] <axw> davechen1y: http://juju-ci.vapour.ws:8080/job/run-unit-tests-xenial-amd64/133/console
[04:01] <axw> davechen1y: Finished: SUCCESS
[04:02] <davechen1y> weird, it still fails 100% for me
[04:03] <axw> davechen1y: only thing I can think of is that the juju/instance package didn't rebuild
[04:07] <davechen1y> axw: i have a change coming
[04:08] <davechen1y> its not a logic error
[04:24] <thumper> laters folks
[04:50] <menn0> wallyworld or axw: http://reviews.vapour.ws/r/3262/ please
[04:50] <wallyworld> sure
[04:50] <menn0> wallyworld or axw: no major rush as I'm done for the week
[04:51] <menn0> wallyworld: thanks
[04:51] <wallyworld> menn0: first glance, looks like a lot of moving of code?
[04:51] <menn0> wallyworld: yes, and a lot of changes to the moved code
[04:51] <wallyworld> \o/
[04:52] <menn0> wallyworld: the PR and separate commits give more detail
[04:52] <wallyworld> ok, will look a little later
[04:52] <menn0> wallyworld: maybe it's easier to look at the individual commits on Github?
[04:52] <wallyworld> yeah
[09:03] <voidspace> dimitern: ping - if you have a minute
[09:04] <dimitern> voidspace, sure
[09:04] <voidspace> dimitern: so maas does support ipv6 subnets (max of one per interface)
[09:04] <dimitern> voidspace, I didn't know it's just one
[09:04] <voidspace> dimitern: my PR is done, most of your suggestions are in (tests refactoring and reformatting etc)
[09:04] <voidspace> dimitern: according to their ipv6 docs
[09:04] <dimitern> voidspace, cheers
[09:05] <dimitern> voidspace, I'll have another look before standup
[09:05] <voidspace> dimitern: however my code as written won't work with ipv6 - it assumes ipv4 for working out the allocatable range
[09:05] <voidspace> dimitern: there's a TODO in there as you suggested
[09:05] <voidspace> dimitern: should I fix it (without manual tests as I don't have an ipv6 setup)
[09:05] <voidspace> dimitern: or ok to leave it as a TODO for now?
[09:06] <dimitern> voidspace, as long as we keep it in mind, a TODO is fine for now I think
[09:06] <voidspace> dimitern: cool
[09:06] <voidspace> dimitern: I'll let you have another look before I land it then
[09:06] <voidspace> dimitern: the only thing I didn't do was the extra work in the dummy provider
[09:06] <voidspace> dimitern: I figure we can do that when we actually need it
[09:06] <voidspace> it would be unused code until then
[09:07] <voidspace> and I have ethical objections to unused code
[09:08] <dimitern> voidspace, :) agreed - we can add it later, leaving a TODO there with some of the things we need would be good though - I'll comment
[09:33] <dimitern> voidspace, reviewed
[09:35] <voidspace> dimitern: subnetIdSet is a map, so ranging over it gets the keys and values not an index and value
[09:35] <voidspace> dimitern: and it is a map because the bool value has semantic meaning
[09:35] <voidspace> dimitern: if you read the code notFound is *not* the same length as subnetIdSet
[09:36] <voidspace> dimitern: we only put in it the not found ones
[09:36] <dooferlad> dimitern, voidspace: why are we treating IPv4 and IPv6 addresses differently at all? They can both be represented as uint64.
[09:36] <dooferlad> dimitern, voidspace: subnet masks the same
[09:36] <voidspace> dimitern: that's true for both your first two comments
[09:37] <dimitern> voidspace, ah, I was too quick then :) I'll drop that issue
[09:38] <dimitern> voidspace, we should use sets when possible though
[09:38] <dimitern> in cases like this
[09:38] <voidspace> dooferlad: because the code as written only works with IPv4 and would require rewriting
[09:38] <voidspace> dimitern: did you read what I wrote...
[09:38] <voidspace> dimitern: about why it is a map
[09:38] <dimitern> voidspace, still, the second comment about using a helper for extracting notFound from subnetIdsSet holds
[09:39] <dimitern> voidspace, yeah
[09:39] <voidspace> dimitern: it needs to be a map
[09:39] <dimitern> voidspace, yeah
[09:39] <voidspace> dimitern: ok, I can do that
[09:41] <voidspace> dooferlad: plus it would need some code to track if it's ipv4 or ipv6 addresses we're using
[09:41] <voidspace> dooferlad: as addressing need converting back to the correct format
[09:42] <voidspace> dooferlad: it's not hard it's just not zero work
[09:44] <dooferlad> voidspace: I mostly bring it up because it isn't hard and by landing this we introduce tech debt.
[09:45] <dooferlad> voidspace: that said, I am happy to write a followup.
[09:45] <dooferlad> voidspace: (as I am sure you would be)
[09:45] <voidspace> dooferlad: cool
[09:47] <voidspace> dooferlad: yep, there's a couple of places that use that conversion code that would need changing
[09:47] <voidspace> dooferlad: definitely worth doing
[09:47] <voidspace> dimitern: that trailing bracket was an oversight :-p
[09:47] <voidspace> dimitern: thanks for catching it
[09:47] <dooferlad> voidspace: thankfully IPv4ToDecimal is used in four places before your change (other than tests), so killing it with fire is easy
[09:48] <dimitern> voidspace, any time :)
[09:51] <voidspace> dimitern: changes pushed
[09:51] <voidspace> dimitern: it actually needs dooferlad's changes to gomaasapi to land first
[09:51] <voidspace> dooferlad: did you get a review for your branch?
[09:51] <voidspace> dooferlad: if not I'll look at it
[09:51] <dooferlad> voidspace: no, needs a review
[09:51] <dimitern> voidspace, cheers - let's land it
[09:52] <voidspace> cool
[09:54] <voidspace> dooferlad: 1400 lines!
[09:55] <voidspace> dooferlad: I'm concerned that the struct approach to serialising sends empty (uninitialised) arrays as null
[09:55] <voidspace> dooferlad: which doesn't match maas and will break code that does GetArray()
[09:59] <dooferlad> voidspace: happy to run through it with you after the hangout
[10:02] <voidspace> frobware: you around?
[10:02] <dimitern> fwereade, jam, standup?
[10:04] <frobware> dimitern, strike 3
[10:04] <voidspace> dimitern: jam is never around on Friday :-)
[10:32] <voidspace> dooferlad: will sync up with you shortly
[10:32] <dooferlad> voidspace: cool
[11:31] <fwereade> straw poll: WaitExpired, WaitForExpiry, WaitUntilExpired?
[11:31] <fwereade> mgz, dimitern, frobware, voidspace? ^
[11:32] <dimitern> fwereade, last one
[11:33] <fwereade> dimitern, cheers
[11:33] <frobware> fwereade, hmm. WaitForExpiry
[11:33] <frobware> fwereade, though I can do the last as well
[11:34] <frobware> fwereade, the For makes it sounds more like present tense
[11:34] <dimitern> that works just as well for me :)
[11:34] <voidspace> dimitern: WaitForExpiry
[11:41] <frobware> voidspace, was your "you around?" for the standup or something else?
[12:10] <voidspace> frobware: yeah, just for standup
[12:10] <voidspace> dooferlad appears not to be here
[12:25] <frobware> dimitern, do you know if a runcmd (for cloud init & from juju) always needs to be a shell script?
[12:26] <voidspace> frobware: I think cloud-init runs a shell script
[12:26] <voidspace> not entirely sure though :-)
[12:27] <dimitern> frobware, it needs to be executable AFAIK
[12:28] <dimitern> frobware, have a look at https://cloudinit.readthedocs.org/en/latest/topics/examples.html#run-commands-on-first-boot
[12:28] <frobware> thx
[12:29] <dimitern> frobware, but what I *think* you're asking is why adding a script generates a shell script wrapper? :)
[12:30] <frobware> dimitern, actually not sure what I was asking... just wondering how I know get my python-only /e/n/i renderer to work/be added.
[12:30] <frobware> dimitern, it's not quite 100% python but I was wondering if I still needed some sh wrapper
[12:31] <dimitern> frobware, using AddScripts() creates a wrapper for you
[12:31] <dimitern> frobware, it will render something like `#!/bin/bash\nscript1\nscript2...`
[12:32] <dimitern> frobware, have a look around the tests in cloudconfig
[13:24] <mup> Bug #1520571 opened: Juju destroy-environment stacktraces on local provider. <landscapee> <juju-core:New> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1520571>
[13:27] <mup> Bug #1520571 changed: Juju destroy-environment stacktraces on local provider. <landscapee> <juju-core:New> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1520571>
[13:30] <mup> Bug #1520571 opened: Juju destroy-environment stacktraces on local provider. <landscapee> <juju-core:New> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1520571>
[14:18] <dimitern> fwereade, voidspace, dooferlad, frobware, please have a look - http://reviews.vapour.ws/r/3223/ I think the bindings stuff should be good to land
[14:20] <dimitern> especially fwereade :)
[14:21] <dimitern> voidspace, btw your branch looks like it needs rebasing before trying to land it
[14:23] <fwereade> dimitern, ack
[14:24] <dimitern> fwereade, cheers :)
[14:30] <fwereade> dimitern, reopened one issue, looking at diff now
[14:32] <dimitern> fwereade, I thought it was safer to do asserts like that
[14:32] <dimitern> fwereade, but I'm happy to drop it if you think it's better
[14:35] <fwereade> dimitern, I think it's mildly harmful -- when, e.g. two components are fighting over the doc, I'd much rather one just won the race, rather than risk them getting into edit wars with each other
[14:36] <fwereade> dimitern, and also a txn is many times more expensive than a read, and doesn't actually give you any better certainty, someone could always overwrite just after your final confirmatory read
[14:36] <dimitern> fwereade, right, sounds sensible
[14:36] <fwereade> dimitern, cool
[14:57] <fwereade> dimitern, reviewed
[14:59] <dimitern> fwereade, tyvm!
[15:47] <dooferlad> voidspace: could you take another look at the gomaasapi branch? https://code.launchpad.net/~dooferlad/gomaasapi/subnets/+merge/278342 don't know if you got an update about my update :-)
[15:48] <mup> Bug #1520623 opened: juju/charm: Meta can use a CombinedCharmRelations() method <charm> <tech-debt> <juju-core:Triaged> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1520623>
[15:50] <voidspace> dooferlad: yep
[15:51] <mup> Bug #1520623 changed: juju/charm: Meta can use a CombinedCharmRelations() method <charm> <tech-debt> <juju-core:Triaged> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1520623>
[15:52] <voidspace> dimitern: ok, I'll rebase it before landing - it needs dooferlad's branch anyway
[15:54] <mup> Bug #1520623 opened: juju/charm: Meta can use a CombinedCharmRelations() method <charm> <tech-debt> <juju-core:Triaged> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1520623>
[15:58] <voidspace> dooferlad: how did you address the nil slice -> null problem? It's not obvious to me from the updated diff
[15:59] <dimitern> fwereade, ping
[16:00] <fwereade> dimitern, pong
[16:01] <voidspace> dooferlad: ah, checking the actual diff for that commit helps...
[16:01] <dimitern> fwereade, I fixed all but 2 issues, as I have questions there - can you have a final look and LGTM it if you think it can land?
[16:02] <voidspace> dooferlad: cool, LGTM
[16:06] <dooferlad> voidspace: great. Is there any automatic pre-merge testing for gomaasapi or should I manually merge and push?
[16:08] <fwereade> dimitern, heh, honestly I do really dislike that test
[16:08] <dimitern> fwereade, which one?
[16:08] <fwereade> dimitern, will there be an UpdateEndpointBindings method inn the nearish future?
[16:08] <fwereade> dimitern, the one that uses ServcieGlobalKey, and hits the database
[16:08] <fwereade> directly
[16:08] <voidspace> dooferlad: manual merge I'm afraid
[16:09] <dooferlad> voidspace: thats OK by me - just didn't want to skip a step
[16:09] <dimitern> fwereade, well, as along as there's NO way to reach it from the CLI
[16:09] <voidspace> dooferlad: cool
[16:09] <voidspace> dooferlad: nice work
[16:09] <dooferlad> voidspace: thanks!
[16:09] <dimitern> fwereade, otherwise the whole point of using immutable bindings vs. constraints seems moot
[16:10] <fwereade> dimitern, sure -- but this is the model interface we're designing here, right?
[16:10] <fwereade> dimitern, that said
[16:10] <dimitern> fwereade, yeah
[16:10] <fwereade> dimitern, if they're immutable
[16:11] <fwereade> dimitern, I'd be comfortable just dropping the what-if-they-change functionality
[16:11] <dimitern> fwereade, well, immutable is not the right term - you can add to them but not remove existing ones, except when the charm is upgraded
[16:12] <fwereade> dimitern, so you can change from "default" but not from anything else?
[16:12] <fwereade> dimitern, that... does not sound right?
[16:12] <dimitern> fwereade, ok, I'll add an update method as part of the follow-up which creates relation docs with endpoints having a space name
[16:12] <fwereade> dimitern, if we can change from default, surely we can change from anything anyway?
[16:13] <dooferlad> voidspace: pushed
[16:13] <dimitern> fwereade, the idea is to disallow a scenario where you deploy a service with given bindings, then add some units, change the bindings (same charm) and add some more units
[16:13] <voidspace> dooferlad: great
[16:14] <fwereade> dimitern, ok -- then how can a change *from* default be any less invalid than any other change?
[16:15] <dimitern> fwereade, say you changed the charm and now want to upgrade to it and bind an endpoint differently (e.g. from default to apps)
[16:16] <dimitern> fwereade, "default" is not special (except the assumption it exists and is always available as a fallback)
[16:17] <fwereade> dimitern, doesn't *any* change open the door to the full set of edge cases?
[16:18] <dimitern> fwereade, similar scenario: deployed mysql --bind shared-db@internal, added a relation between mysql and wordpress; now you want to relate it to phpmyadmin, but use a different space: add-relation mysql:shared-db@admin phpmyadmin:db@dmz
[16:19] <fwereade> dimitern, right, I think I do understand the use cases
[16:19] <dimitern> fwereade, I think any change at the wrong moment will be problematic, but changes at well defined moments (when the relations are created and effectively bound at that point; or when endpoints have changed)
[16:20] <dimitern> should be safe IMO
[16:20] <fwereade> dimitern, what I'm saying is that doing that correctly is no more or less hard than any other case in which a service's spaces requirements can change with units in the field
[16:21] <dimitern> fwereade, agreed - just having updateBindings method won't violate the "immutability"
[16:22] <dimitern> fwereade, but I need to grok a few other interactions first and use cases to be able to hold it in my head consistently (and also I need some rest badly I think..)
[16:23] <fwereade> dimitern, ok, so long as there's an imminent followup that addresses the db-poking (put it on the tech-debt board), it's not the end of the world
[16:24] <dimitern> fwereade, sure, I promise that will be in the very next PR I put up
[16:24] <dimitern> fwereade, good idea about the tech-dept board, adding a card now
[16:24] <fwereade> dimitern, I am a bit worried that we may be assuming more immutability than actually exists but I also assume that handling for changes will coming along with the refcounting
[16:24] <fwereade> dimitern, ok, SGTM
[16:25] <fwereade> dimitern, shipited
[16:25] <dimitern> fwereade, cheers, and thanks for bearing with me :)
[16:26] <fwereade> dimitern, no worries :)
[17:54] <voidspace> frobware: ping
[18:04] <voidspace> frobware: I can't rebase my branch with maas-spaces
[18:04] <voidspace> frobware: not sure why, probably because I merged rather than rebasing at an earlier point
[18:04] <voidspace> frobware: but the rebase has horrible, horrible conflicts at every step
[18:05] <voidspace> frobware: ok for me to land it as it is? https://github.com/juju/juju/pull/3834
[18:21] <voidspace> ericsnow: ping
[18:21] <ericsnow> voidspace: pong
[18:21] <voidspace> ericsnow: your PR 3243
[18:21] <voidspace> Wrap state functionality for resource specs and register the component.
[18:21] <ericsnow> voidspace: yep
[18:21] <voidspace> ericsnow: resource/state/state.go is in the state package
[18:21] <voidspace> ericsnow: is that the same state package as the main state package?
[18:22] <ericsnow> voidspace: no
[18:22] <voidspace> ericsnow: ah, subpackage?
[18:22] <ericsnow> voidspace: subpackage of the new "resource" package
[18:22] <voidspace> ericsnow: it seems to me that having another state.State is a recipe for confusion
[18:23] <voidspace> but that may just be because I'm confused already :-)
[18:23] <ericsnow> voidspace: heh
[18:23] * voidspace goes to read the "packages in go" document
[18:24] <ericsnow> voidspace: the subpackages of the "resource" package are essentially internal to the new feature
[18:25] <ericsnow> voidspace: I'm fine with renaming State to something more obvious if you think that will help alleviate any confusion
[18:45] <mup> Bug #1520669 opened: Upgrade from 1.21.3 -> 1.25.0 got minor errors <juju-core:New> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1520669>
[18:48] <mup> Bug #1520669 changed: Upgrade from 1.21.3 -> 1.25.0 got minor errors <juju-core:New> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1520669>
[18:54] <mup> Bug #1520669 opened: Upgrade from 1.21.3 -> 1.25.0 got minor errors <juju-core:New> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1520669>
[20:09] <natefinch> gah, sometimes I just hate git
[20:09] <natefinch> today is one of those days
[20:16] <natefinch> ericsnow: for the feature branches we've worked on, did you rebase them onto master periodically, or was that a merge?
[20:16] <ericsnow> merge
[20:17] <natefinch> ericsnow: ok, yeah, realized after spending a bunch of time rebasing my feature branch that I can't really make a PR with that against the current one :)
[20:18] <ericsnow> natefinch: yep :)
[20:40] <natefinch> anyone online have write access to the juju/charm repo? I need a feature branch created
[20:45] <natefinch> cmars, abentley: can one of you make a branch off juju/charm v6-unstable called nate-minver? I need a feature branch I can check code into so my feature branch in juju/juju can build, and I can't create the branch myself.
[20:59] <abentley> natefinch: looking...
[21:01] <abentley> natefinch: should be there now.
[21:01] <natefinch> abentley: epic. Thanks!
[21:01] <abentley> natefinch: No worries.
[21:03] <natefinch> abentley: will that automatically get picked up by the merge bot, or is there more than needs to be done for that?
[21:05] <abentley> natefinch: I don't know about merging for this repo, only juju/juju. mgz will know, but he's EOD.
[21:08] <natefinch> abentley: kk
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[07:33] <WaVeR> Morning
[07:58] <marcus> WaVeR, i think it should work out. let's see how it goes.
[19:40] <WaVeR> ok marcus
[19:40] <WaVeR> I'll try to see with others to get out the report and I'll update the page and keep you also informed about the change
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"marcus"
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[12:51] <kostas_> hi everyone, I have an I3 with 8GB ram, 128GB sdd! I'd like to install a thin client server on that and have 4 thin clients for family members at home! I'll use ltsp and the clients won't have hdd's, must dvds for writing/reading. has anyone experience with performance on the server side? is this a viable option to run office applications, videop playback up to 720p, web browsers! no resource hungy games or videoediting, just some old sc
[12:51] <kostas_> hool
16bit console emulation like snes
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2015-11-27-#ubuntu-touch
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[08:30] <justCarakas> and freenode is back YEEY
[08:40] <dholbach> good morning
[10:05] <JamesTait> Good morning all; happy Friday, and happy Systems Engineer Day! 😃
[10:19] <luca> hello there
[10:19] <luca> guys may i ask you some help on ubuntu touch porting and install?
[10:20] <luca> i successfully built an android system image + ubuntu/ folder with ubuntu customization
[10:22] <luca> now i'm stuck with the install, i now the official guide says to use rootstock-touch-install
[10:22] <luca> but i can't make it work, so i'd like to understand how it works...any help/suggestion?
[10:24] <jgdx> luca, hey, stick around or send an email to the mailing list if you don't get any help.
[10:24] <jgdx> it's quiet in here at these hours
[11:05] <guest123124> welp,webbrowser app crashes after 1 sec :( [1127/122329:ERROR:gl_surface_oxide_linux.cc(43)] GLSurfaceEGL::InitializeOneOff failed.
[11:22] <jibel> guest123124, can you be more specific? which phone, build number and it crashes when you do what exactly?
[11:22] <Niju> Hi guys, just wondering, on the BQ devices, with only 1gb ram, how do you find it with running many apps?
[11:36] <mcphail> Niju: only one app runs at a time. The OS suspends any app in the background. They can take a second or 2 to come back to life when you switch back
[13:06] <popey> Hm, just flashed a nexus 4 and I'm getting the chip with the "phone needs service centre" thing - not seen that before.. what am I doing wrong?
[13:06] <popey> john-mcaleely, ^
[13:15] <ogra_> davmor2, jibel, should calendar syncing work in rc-proposed atm ?
[13:15] <ogra_> (it doesnt since the backend changed for me)
[13:15] <ogra_> i even deleted and re-added my [email protected] account
[13:17] <jibel> ogra_, I have no idea, I saw an update today but didn't install it yet.
[13:17] <jibel> popey, ^ do you know?
[13:17] <ogra_> jibel, well, it stopped for me a week ago or so
[13:17] <popey> it should, yes.
[13:17] <ogra_> (i think the backend was replaced)
[13:17] <popey> no
[13:17] <popey> it wasnt
[13:17] <ogra_> oh
[13:18] <popey> I tested syncing on my device before uploading to the store
[13:18] <ogra_> well, i cant syncv anymore *sniff*
[13:18] <popey> on rc proposed
[13:18] <popey> bug reports welcome
[13:18] <popey> with logs from .cache/upstart as usual
[13:18] <ogra_> it did start before todays update though ...
[13:18] <ogra_> definitely not related to the app
[13:18] <popey> well, either way, if syncing is broken then it's either the app or sync-monitor or eds, and we need a bug
[13:19] <ogra_> right
[13:31] <john-mcaleely> popey, not a clue
[13:32] <popey> Just realised my nexus 4 had android 5 on it
[13:32] <popey> guess I need to go backwards first!
[14:25] <robin-hero> Hey popey, could you help me how can I play Doom on my phone? :D
[14:25] <popey> haha
[14:30] <robin-hero> popey: ? :D
[14:37] <robin-hero> popey: I have another question too. :D I saw this screenshot: http://people.canonical.com/~alan/screenshots/device-2015-11-26-133326.png Is there a .click package for this version of Dekko? :D
[14:37] <popey> :D
[14:37] <popey> ask DanChapman, I'm sure he'd appreciate additional testing!
[14:41] <robin-hero> DanChapman: Hey Dan! I'd like to try out the latest dev version of Dekko. Could you give me a .click package? :)
[14:43] <DanChapman> robin-hero: Hey! errrm yeah. I don't have an up to date click handy right now. Let me just find a link to one I shared yesterday
[14:44] <robin-hero> Cool, thanks :)
[14:45] <DanChapman> robin-hero: https://drive.google.com/file/d/0BwhxYaiA7z1qOWh4M1dtei0wY0U/view?usp=sharing Be warned it isn't fully functional message reply's, forwards & attachments and some other little bits aren't working in that click.
[14:46] <robin-hero> Thanks, I'll test it on my test device, so it's not a problem. When do you release a new stable version? :)
[14:49] <DanChapman> robin-hero: well... as long as I have no more big surprises should be sunday or monday.
[14:50] <robin-hero> Awesome \o/ :)
[14:54] <robin-hero> DanChapman: Is it normal to everything is English? Because I use my phone with other language settings.
[14:55] <DanChapman> robin-hero: yes that's normal. There is no translations in that build.
[14:56] <robin-hero> Thanks :)
[14:56] <robin-hero> But I see a lot of new strings, which are not inclueded in the translation template on Launchpad, please updload a new version before release it :)
[15:07] <stakewinner00> in the bookmarks section of the web browser, if you slide your finger to the right, you can see the red button to delete the bookmark. You press it, but it does nothing.
[15:07] <stakewinner00> It only happens to me?
[15:08] <mcphail> stakewinner00: does it still do that? Think it was fixed in OTA7
[15:08] <jibel> ogra_, calendar sync works fine on latest rc-proposed + latest calendar
[15:09] <stakewinner00> yes, i'm in ota-8 now. Today I found that the bookmarks section don't work.
[15:09] <mcphail> stakewinner00: Not sure, then. Works for me now, and was supposed to be fixed from OTA7 onwards. When you swipe right, if you do a very long swipe (at least to middle of screen) then click the trash icon does it work?
[15:10] <ogra_> jibel, with your canonical account ?
[15:10] <jibel> stakewinner00, it's a known bug.
[15:10] <stakewinner00> it's a feature :D
[15:10] <jibel> ogra_, no my personal gmail account
[15:10] <ogra_> ah
[15:10] <mcphail> jibel: wasn'i it fixed already?
[15:10] <jibel> stakewinner00, bug 1515631
[15:10] <ogra_> hmm, half of my tabs in the browser have no handle and no close button
[15:10] <stakewinner00> mcphail, if i click the trash icon, it do nothing.
[15:11] <jibel> mcphail, still in progress apparently.
[15:11] <stakewinner00> well, you can go to the webpage and click the "star" and the bookmark gets removed
[15:12] <ogra_> oSoMoN, is that a known issue ? (no handles in some tabs in the browser)
[15:13] <mcphail> jibel: hmm. Think that may be a duplicate...
[15:13] <ogra_> they seem to get one after i opened the page once ...
[15:15] <jibel> mcphail, if you know a duplicate feel free to mark it so. The bug I mentioned has a branch attacheed and should land soon and it's clearly not fixed in rc-proposed
[15:15] <mcphail> jibel: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubuntu-ui-toolkit/+bug/1501668 looks as if I closed it (and perhaps closed it too early?)
[15:15] <oSoMoN> ogra_, nope, not a known issue, mind filing a bug with a screenshot?
[15:16] <jibel> mcphail, it looks very similar indeed, oSoMoN can tell if it is the same
[15:17] <jibel> oSoMoN, do you plan to land the fix for 1515631 for ota9?
[15:17] <mcphail> jibel: and I wondered if my bug was a duplicate of https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubuntu-ui-toolkit/+bug/1486008 which is fix released
[15:18] <stakewinner00> also, today i was listen music and unpluged the headphones, the music stopped as expected, and the battery life got drastically reduced. I supose this is some bug in the music app...
[15:19] <stakewinner00> I'll search on the buglist and report it if necessary.
[15:19] <ahayzen> stakewinner00, bug 1518764
[15:19] <ahayzen> a few people have said this, i wonder if the previously fixed lifecycle stuff is broken
[15:20] <stakewinner00> also bug 1289804
[15:21] <ogra_> oSoMoN, hmm, i would, if i could actually figure out how to get a screenshot ... seems the screenshot function is broken
[15:22] <davmor2> stakewinner00: for the delete in browser it is a known issue being fixed currently
[15:22] <ahayzen> greyback, is there any chance, when you have a moment, you could check bug 1518764, it seems like the fix for bug 1423787 isn't working anymore as I've noticed the battery life being poor on my mako as well ?
[15:24] <Guest552342> i don't even
[15:24] <greyback> ahayzen: I'll give it a look, but music app is exempt from lifecycle management, so I've to trust that it behaves itself
[15:24] <ahayzen> greyback, i thought it was changed so that it was only exempt when audio was playing ?
[15:24] <ahayzen> as per that second bug
[15:26] <ahayzen> it seems that power is still used even when music isn't playing
[15:26] * ahayzen hopes we can have a normal lifecycle soon with the work going on upstream to us :-)
[15:27] <greyback> ahayzen: which says to me music app, or something it uses is misbehaving. By misbehaving, I mean drawing frame unnecessarily, or not releasing its wakelock when it should
[15:27] <ahayzen> yeah, maybe all the changes in media-hub have caused it
[15:27] <greyback> not improbable
[15:27] <davmor2> ahayzen: just blame jhodapp and media-hub it's fine he has big shoulders ;)
[15:27] <ahayzen> davmor2, :-)
[15:28] <jhodapp> haha
[15:28] <jhodapp> do not blame, it's a bad habit
[15:28] <jhodapp> :)
[15:28] <ahayzen> only bzr blame ?
[15:28] <jhodapp> no blame
[15:29] <ahayzen> ;-)
[15:29] <jhodapp> greyback, ahayzen: did using music-app start chewing up more battery life recently?
[15:29] <ahayzen> jhodapp, OTA8
[15:30] <jhodapp> ok
[15:30] <ahayzen> once jhodapp fixes bug 1518160 music can have a normal app lifecycle anyway :-) hehe
[15:30] <jhodapp> yes indeed
[15:31] <ahayzen> jhodapp, but i wonder if the changes in mh are cause it to not release the wakelock as it thinks the audio is still playing or something
[15:31] <stakewinner00> Why the music app are not programmed in C++/qt?
[15:31] <ogra_> oSoMoN, bug 1520624
[15:31] <ahayzen> stakewinner00, there is no real reason to at the moment, we can do everything in QML
[15:32] <davmor2> ahayzen: see told you it was jhodapp fault, but no, he plays the no blame card, like I care, I'm QA, blame is what I do, after I break something ;)
[15:32] <stakewinner00> ahayzen, with qml/js it seems to be slow when loading list of songs for example.
[15:32] <ahayzen> stakewinner00, that's all done in the SDK c++ models though, if you mean the Songs tab ?
[15:33] <ahayzen> only the playlist songs view is loaded via JS
[15:33] <ahayzen> all the others we just pass the mediascanner2 model directly to the view
[15:33] <jhodapp> ahayzen, you can test that with the powerd-cli --list if you suspect that something might still have a system wakelock
[15:33] <jhodapp> davmor2, technically you owe me a beer since silo 9 landed without a single fix needed ;)
[15:33] <stakewinner00> I mean, I have a playlist with 600 songs, when i open it, I have to wait arround 4-5 seconds to load it
[15:33] <ahayzen> jhodapp, ok i'll look when i'm back home, at campus at the moment :-)
[15:34] <ahayzen> stakewinner00, yup agreed
[15:34] * ahayzen wanted to use U1DB for that
[15:34] <ahayzen> but hopefully the media-hub save/load can do that instead when they are implemented/fixed
[15:35] <davmor2> jhodapp: Actually the silo got blocked even though it was all ahayzen fault :P But to be fair we should all have a drink at some point anyhow :)
[15:35] <jhodapp> davmor2, cheers to that! :)
[15:35] <ahayzen> davmor2, i did say music was still WIP though :-P
[15:35] <oSoMoN> ogra_, thanks
[15:36] <stakewinner00> it's like atom vs sublime text, you have to take a coffee waiting to load it xD
[15:36] <davmor2> ahayzen: Indeed and it served the purpose it's just hard for an outsider to strip the two parts away from each other :)
[15:37] <jhodapp> stakewinner00, parts of that should be faster with the new music-app coming out with OTA9
[15:37] <jhodapp> as it'll be using the new media-hub background playlist
[15:37] <ahayzen> jhodapp, not the playlists list
[15:37] <jhodapp> ahayzen, right, that's why I said *parts* :)
[15:37] <ahayzen> jhodapp, that's all JS+localstorage horribleness
[15:38] <jhodapp> ahayzen, speaking of which, let me make sure load/save are on our team's backlog
[15:38] <ahayzen> jhodapp, bug 1510225
[15:39] <jhodapp> ahayzen, thanks, I'll add that link to the new story I just created
[15:40] <ahayzen> jhodapp, coolio, gtg and print stuff brb later o/
[15:40] <stakewinner00> i think that the 80% of the time i'm with the phone, i'm listening music. I'll be grateful of all improvements and fixes related to music app. :D
[15:40] <ahayzen> stakewinner00, we are working on it :-)
[15:40] <davmor2> jhodapp: if that story doesn't start "A long time ago in a galaxy far far away......" I'm not interested
[15:41] <jhodapp> stakewinner00, indeed, it's getting better and better
[16:37] <AbuDhar> hey guys :D
[16:37] <AbuDhar> how stable is ubuntu phone?
[16:39] <popey> AbuDhar, depends how you define "stable" :D
[18:02] <AbuDhar> popey: what will the next Ubuntu phone be? have they disclosed that?
[18:02] <popey> nope
[18:03] <AbuDhar> http://store.bq.com/gl/ this is the best one hardware wise so far?
[18:03] <AbuDhar> The Meizu MX4 Ubuntu Edition or this one?
[18:51] <Mikaela> Will it have dualband (ac)? It seemed that none of the current ones has it (and 4G was also missing?) and Ubuntu Touch seems to be the only good option if Jolla sinks.
[18:55] <ogra_> the MX4 has 4G
[19:07] <Mikaela> Nice
[19:24] <AbuDhar> yeah but it's sold out
[19:35] <Mikaela> :(
[19:39] <mac___> trying to port ubuntu touch on hd2, I have access to the system-data/var/log folder
[19:39] <mac___> i found in syslog i have " Could not get lights module"
[19:41] <mac___> a file name lightdm.log is present in system-data/var/log/lightdm.log folder, however I cannot open it.
[19:41] <mac___> Seems like no a txt file. How do I open logs for lightdm? Is there any special ways?
[19:53] <mac___> never mind
[21:28] <_Kai__> Don't know if there are any Touch devs in here but
[21:28] <_Kai__> had a little idea: in settings you could have options for 'traditional' and 'simplified' interfaces
[21:29] <_Kai__> traditional would be like android homescreens. Simplified would be big buttons 'phone' 'messaging' 'email' 'maps' ext.
[21:29] <_Kai__> might help make it a bit more mainstream/easier to use for launch
[22:07] <tripleclones> jfyi Ubuntu Phone is the first item in the subject line of SitePoint Mobile newsletter
[22:08] <tripleclones> http://www.sitepoint.com/ux-principles-behind-ubuntu-phone/
[22:16] <dobey> _Kai__: thanks for the suggestion, but i don't think that will solve whatever problem it is you are trying to solve. :)
[22:16] <_Kai__> dobey: Simplified interface would probably be a lot easier to implement. Basically had the idea since I setup an Android for my farther with a simplified launcher (6 big buttons and a 'notification centre' plus 'top contacts') which helped him use the smartphone :-D
[22:17] <_Kai__> https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.wiser.home&hl=en_GB
[22:18] <_Kai__> that's the one. Lovely big easy to use buttons :) 100,000 - 500,000 installs too for this launcher so it is a feature that is not as niche as you'd think
[22:25] <dobey> i still don't know what problem that is trying to solve
[23:06] <_Kai__> dobey: usability for people less familiar with smartphones/gestures/difficulty seeing?
[23:06] <_Kai__> dobey: not a problem as much as a pretty good feature (you can see how many downloads the launchers get on Google Play)
[23:06] <_Kai__> not saying it should be a priorty, certainly not. But it would be a useful feature for a mainstream launch :D
[23:07] <_Kai__> (when it hits carriers next year, if the dates we've been given are correct)
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2015-11-27-#ubuntu-mir
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[07:16] <peter-bittner> I'm interested in the state of "restoring windows when attaching / detaching external monitors". Is the work on this topic progressing, or is there some (easy) help needed from the community, maybe?
[07:16] <peter-bittner> I've asked a question about that on the ubuntu-phone mailing list, https://lists.launchpad.net/ubuntu-phone/msg16985.html
[09:35] <alan_g> alf__: which was the disp-conf bug we discussed yesterday?
[09:38] <peter-bittner> Sorry to disturb you: I'm interested in the state of "restoring windows when attaching / detaching external monitors". Is the work on this topic progressing somehow?
[09:39] <alf__> alan_g: https://bugs.launchpad.net/mir/+bug/1518317
[09:40] <alan_g> peter-bittner: that sounds as though it cross-cuts Mir, Qtmir and Unity8. There's some work in Mir that will likely be landing in 0.18 and Gerry and I started on some Qtmir work that impacts it this week. Don't know about U8 though.
[09:41] <alan_g> alf__: thanks
[10:08] <alf__> alan_g: just in case you didn't see it, there is a comment in https://bugs.launchpad.net/mir/+bug/1518317 with some thoughts and a link to my WIP branch
[10:08] <alan_g> alf__: thanks, was just about to look (was still in qtmir-land)
[10:21] <peter-bittner> alan_g: What is "landing in 0.18" in terms of OTA or Ubuntu release date (for desktop computers)? Sorry for my ignorance.
[10:22] <peter-bittner> And does fixing that issue translate into "application windows (positions, dimensions) will be restored when attaching / detaching external monitors automatically"?
[10:44] <peter-bittner> This is the problem I intend to be solved: http://askubuntu.com/questions/561197/is-there-a-way-to-prevent-your-windows-from-moving-when-an-external-monitor-is-c/561824#comment1031840_561824
[10:44] <peter-bittner> Are we on the same page?
[10:45] <peter-bittner> I've also asked a question about that on the ubuntu-phone mailing list, https://lists.launchpad.net/ubuntu-phone/msg16985.html
[16:54] <ahayzen> greyback, thanks for commenting on that music-app power consumption bug :-)
[16:56] <greyback> ahayzen: it just emphasizes that lifecycle exemption is not a good solution for background processes
[16:56] <ahayzen> yup :-) greyback hopefully we can remove our exception in the short-medium term, as the bgplaylists is getting close now, we'll then just need one extra thing from media-hub :-)
[17:00] <greyback> *nod*
[17:01] <greyback> but more generally, we need something better
[17:01] <ahayzen> i think trusted services are the best solution... we just need more services/expand them
[17:02] <greyback> I think we need ability to occasionally wake up the app to ask it "the list is about to run out, do you want more stuff added to the list, or can I stop"
[17:46] <alan_g> alf__: (if you're still around) I resubmitted ~alan-griffiths/mir/fix-1518317/ after rebasing on anpok's conflicting (and simplifying) MP. Maybe you can re-approve?
[17:54] <alf__> alan_g: done
[17:55] <alan_g> ta
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"ahayzen",
"alan_g",
"alf__",
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"peter-bittner"
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2015-11-27-#ubuntu-ko
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[00:29] <Gooos> 추운아침입니다 :)
[00:29] <MENT> : )
[00:43] <jgs> 갑자기 추워지네요
[00:57] <Seony> 안녕하세요
[01:24] <autowiz> 안녕하세요 ㅠㅠ
[01:54] <autowiz> 겁나게 춥네요 ㅠㅠ
[02:02] <ipeter_> 추워요.
[02:06] <razGon_Xch2> 알로하!
[02:06] <razGon_Xch2> 진짜.. 알로하 하고 싶네요.ㅎ
[02:07] <JasonJang> g
[02:07] <JasonJang> ㅎ
[02:21] <HolyKnight> 트윗펌. ‘사물존칭’이라 하여 콜센터 상담사들이 ‘혜택이 좋으십니다’같은 말들을 쓰는 것이 기사화되자 상당수 콜센터들이 ‘사물 존칭 사용 상담원 급여차감’으로 이 문제에 대응했다．‘교통카드 기능 있으십니다 했다가 ５만원 깎였다’는 콜센터 후배
[02:21] <HolyKnight> 직원의말．
[04:13] <bluedusk> 이 컴퓨터 기능이 좋으십니다. - 컴터 가격 5만원 차감
[04:13] <bluedusk> 동북아시아의 어느 국가 대통령의 기능이 좋으십니다.
[04:13] <bluedusk> 법인세 5% 차감
[04:40] <HolyKnight> 블프세일땜에 스팀에서도 할인행사진행할듯한데 겜추천 부탁드림미다유.
[05:14] <samahui_WS> 스팀 세일을 하면 우선 풀아웃4를 사야겠군요
[05:14] <samahui_WS> 폴아웃이낙
[05:14] <samahui_WS> 풀아웃인가
[05:14] <samahui_WS> 폴아웃이군요
[05:14] <samahui_WS> 3 재미있게 했는데 엔딩은 못봤었네요
[05:24] <ipeter_> 알로하
[05:25] <ipeter_> 알로하(2)
[05:25] <ipeter_> 알로하!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[05:25] <ipeter_> ㅠㅠㅠㅠㅠㅠ
[05:47] <samahui_TP> 알로하!
[05:47] <samahui_TP> 정말 하와이로 이민을 가야할까요? 넘 추워요
[05:47] <samahui_TP> 잠시 나갔다 왔더니 외근나가야되는데 갈 엄두가 안나요 ㅜㅜ
[07:55] <autowiz> 저도 어제 초저녁엔 그랬는데 계속 다니다 보니까 또
[07:55] <autowiz> 조금은 괜찮아 졌습니다.
[07:57] <Seony^MacPro> ㅎㅎ 여기도 요즘 추워요
[07:57] <Seony^MacPro> 밤에 잘 때 이불 덮어야합니다
[08:04] <JasonJang> Seony^ MacPro: <--- 염장 질? ㅋ
[08:05] <Seony^MacPro> ㅎㅎㅎ
[08:05] <Seony^MacPro> 요즘 여기 1주일 내내 비오거든요. 신혼여행객들 엄청 짜증날 듯 싶어요
[08:17] <autowiz__> 신혼여행인데도 짜증이 나나요 ? ㅎㅎㅎㅎ
[08:17] <autowiz__> ㅎㅎㅎㅎ
[08:18] <Seony^MacPro> 딴데는 몰라도, 하와이는 날씨 안좋으면 갈데가 없거든요
[08:18] <autowiz__> 어제는 너무 간만에 집에 갔더니 춥기도 하고 , 평소에 자던시간이 아니라 잠도 안오고 그러다가
[08:19] <autowiz__> 아침에 일어나긴 했는데 추워서 너무 나가기가 싫어서 9시 넘어서 일어났네요 ㅠㅠ
[08:20] <Seony^MacPro> 그럼 출근은요?
[08:21] <autowiz__> 10시 반쯤했습지요 ㅎㅎ
[08:21] <autowiz__> 뭐 괜찮습니다 일주일에 몇일이나 집에 간다고. 그정도로 뭐라고 하면 확~! ㅎㅎ
[08:54] <ipeter_> 후...
[08:54] <ipeter_> 간단히 서버(웹서버) 돌리려고 하면 뭐가 좋을까요?
[08:54] <ipeter_> 하드웨어요.
[08:55] <ipeter_> 하나 살까 하네요.
[09:06] <ipeter_> 질문하니까 다 나가시네요.
[09:06] <ipeter_> ㅠㅠㅠㅠㅠㅠㅠ
[09:06] <ipeter_> 알로하..ㅠㅠㅠㅠ
[11:05] <HolyKnight> http://mlbpark.donga.com/mbs/articleV.php?mbsC=bullpen2&mbsIdx=3791587
[12:54] <HolyKnight> http://mlbpark.donga.com/mbs/articleV.php?mbsC=bullpen2&mbsIdx=3793804&cpage=1
[21:54] <samahui_TP> 즐거운 주말들 보내세요
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ubuntu-chat
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2024-05-13T22:11:19.706957
| 2015-11-27T00:00:00 |
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"Gooos",
"HolyKnight",
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"bluedusk",
"ipeter_",
"jgs",
"razGon_Xch2",
"samahui_TP",
"samahui_WS"
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"channel": "#ubuntu-ko"
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2015-11-27-#ubuntu-release
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[15:20] <tjaalton> infinity: I've now got a preliminary set of lts-wily stack on ppa:canonical-x/x-staging which seems to at least install same way as lts-vivid, but I'll continue with proper tests next week
[15:41] <cyphermox> could someone please rerun the network-manager autopkgtest triggered by network-manager/1.0.4-0ubuntu7 ; looks like for ppc64el the dhcp requests sometimes time out
[16:04] <sil2100> Hello release team! I need to disable the system-image importer for a short while
[19:44] <cyphermox> could someone please review grub2/grub2-signed in trusty, vivid and wily queues?
[19:45] <tsimonq2> cyphermox: what about xenial? :D
[19:46] <cyphermox> tsimonq2: it's already in xenial
[19:46] <cyphermox> well
[19:46] <cyphermox> I suppose it's still in NEW queue for xenial too, for i386/amd64
[19:46] <tsimonq2> cyphermox: is it in -proposed yet? because I am running xenial-proposed i386
[19:46] <cyphermox> yikes
[19:47] <tsimonq2> cyphermox: it works fine
[19:47] <cyphermox> it isn't, at least not for i386/amd64, since it's in NEW
[19:47] <tsimonq2> ooh, can I go even MORE bleeding-edge then proposed? :D
[19:47] <cyphermox> tsimonq2: sure, but xenial-proposed is probably not what you'd want to run day-to-day, things can and will break
[19:48] <tsimonq2> heard it
[19:48] <tsimonq2> never broken
[19:48] <cyphermox> tsimonq2: fair enough. as long are you're aware of the risks :)
[19:48] <tsimonq2> :D
[19:49] <tsimonq2> cyphermox: but CAN I run something more bleeding-edge?
[19:50] <cyphermox> not really. the other packages aren't available to apt-get, they're not officially in any repository, just waiting to be reviewed by an archive admin where necessary
[19:51] <tsimonq2> oh :D
[22:44] <cjwatson> tsimonq2: running devel-proposed is very silly, honestly - it's a waste of time to deliberately run into precisely those problems that automation would have detected
[22:45] <tsimonq2> *shrug*
[22:45] <tsimonq2> the new features are worth it
[22:45] <cjwatson> they reach xenial as soon as they aren't broken
[22:45] <cjwatson> there's no artificial delay
[22:46] <cjwatson> by all means run devel, but you haven't been around long enough to see how it breaks, I think :)
[22:46] <cjwatson> it -> devel-proposed
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ubuntu-chat
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2024-05-13T22:11:19.712747
| 2015-11-27T00:00:00 |
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"cjwatson",
"cyphermox",
"sil2100",
"tjaalton",
"tsimonq2"
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"channel": "#ubuntu-release"
}
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2015-11-27-#ubuntu-motu
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[08:40] <dholbach> good morning
[12:09] * Rhonda sighs.
[12:09] <Rhonda> W: Failed to fetch http://at.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/trusty-updates/main/binary-amd64/Packages Hash Sum mismatch
[12:09] <Rhonda> I removed all the files in /var/lib/apt/lists (and in partial)
[12:10] * Rhonda redirects herself to #ubuntu
[12:10] <Laney> usually fixes itself after a little while
[23:23] <zzo38> Is this channel how I am supposed to add the package into Ubuntu? I wrote some programs and I would want to know if you should include in the Ubuntu package manager
[23:25] <zzo38> I made up the program "dvipbm" which can be use to print stuff on a printer that require to be rasterized by computer, and is designed to be used with such program as foo2zjs and so on.
[23:26] <zzo38> I also made up program such as "amigamml" and "xisynth" and "playmod" which are program relating to MOD/XM musics
[23:26] <zzo38> I think AmigaMML is a better program to write the MOD/XM musics than the one you already have in the package manager, in my opinion.
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ubuntu-chat
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2024-05-13T22:11:19.715628
| 2015-11-27T00:00:00 |
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"Laney",
"Rhonda",
"dholbach",
"zzo38"
],
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"channel": "#ubuntu-motu"
}
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2015-11-27-#lubuntu
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[01:01] <delete> Yo
[01:01] <delete> I randomly get an error in the noficiation daemon when coming back from sleep
[01:01] <delete> "Power manager: Not authorized"
[01:01] <delete> what do I do to fix it?
[01:02] <delete> also I get sh: IO: error all the time from laptop-mode-tools
[01:02] <delete> but I have yet to have data loss
[01:26] <deletemeplease> so
[01:26] <deletemeplease> anyone have an answer to my problems?
[02:32] <ianorlin> I could not i3 to wokr as window manager for lxde well
[02:41] <deletemeplease> ianorlin, what
[02:43] <ianorlin> nevermind that was to something way scrolled up
[03:08] <deletemeplease> ianorlin, ok
[03:09] <deletemeplease> I'm working on a few utilities
[03:09] <deletemeplease> one of them is a password storage program that allows you to authenticate against it.
[03:09] <deletemeplease> I'm working on the idea that the passwords are AES encrypted and you can pass a secret with the password.
[03:10] <deletemeplease> If the result of hashing the decrypted passsword with the string and it's salt returns what the application gave it it will authenticate
[03:10] <deletemeplease> otherwise it will fail;.
[13:51] <cimbakahn> Hello!
[13:52] <cimbakahn> I am having trouble opening anything that takes a password to get into. Is lxdm necessary or is it just for the main login screen?
[17:08] <cimbakahn> synaptic, gdebi, software & updates not opening <---- May be a common thread between the three.
[18:45] <cimbakahn> If you plan to downgrade packages. Do you do it before you take out its current source or after?
[19:35] <SlidingHorn> cimbakahn, sorry for the delay: Technically, lxdm isn't "required," but if you remove it, you will have to log in using the CLI, and will have to start X & your window manager manually
[19:35] <SlidingHorn> cimbakahn, is sudo the part requiring your password and giving you trouble? If so, what error(s), if any, are given?
[19:36] <SlidingHorn> (in other words, removing LXDM isn't going to help you, most likely - only make your life more difficult)
[20:02] <Unit193> LXDM hasn't been used as the DM for many releases.
[20:04] <SlidingHorn> oh, yeah, they're using lightdm now aren't they. My bad
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ubuntu-chat
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2024-05-13T22:11:19.720258
| 2015-11-27T00:00:00 |
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"SlidingHorn",
"Unit193",
"cimbakahn",
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"deletemeplease",
"ianorlin"
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"channel": "#lubuntu"
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2015-11-27-#ubuntu-pl
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[11:41] <gjm> co te splitnode
[12:21] <jacekn> gjm: jakis DDoS
[12:22] <gjm> you don't say
[12:25] <Ashiren> hm?
[12:25] <Ashiren> mam nadzieje ze do caturday sie unormuje
[12:28] <jacekn> ale ciekawe ze w Black Friday botnety DDoSuja freenode a nie jakies sklepy internetowe czy cos
[19:39] <gjm> jacekn: http://wstaw.org/m/2015/11/27/paniejawle.png
[19:39] <gjm> rak kontent
[21:27] <sylwek> jest tu GIZMO?
[21:31] <Dread> a znasz śpiocha?
[21:31] <sylwek> nie a ty?
[21:32] <gjm> spi: edralaj
[21:32] <sylwek> ?
[21:32] <sylwek> gjm: co?
[21:32] <gjm> tajne hasło
[21:32] <Ashiren> siusiak!
[21:33] <sylwek> masz?
[21:35] <sylwek> gjm: to twoje hasło mi sie z czyms rymuje
[21:38] <sylwek> moge napisac?
[21:41] <sylwek> gjm spi, gjm sni, gjm wstaje, gjm kazdemu daje, gjm sie przebudzil i mowi dawaj,,, a ty mu mowisz wypierdalaj,,, fajne co nie
[21:43] <gjm> nie
[21:44] <sylwek> czego nie
[21:44] <gjm> czemu*
[21:44] <sylwek> sie rymuje przeciez
[21:44] <sylwek> no i?
[21:44] <gjm> 2pac rymował i nie żyje
[21:44] <Ashiren> rymuje sie z Caturday
[21:44] <gjm> przypadek?
[21:45] <sylwek> no raczej
[21:45] <gjm> nie sądzę
[21:46] <sylwek> fajne no wez
[21:47] <sylwek> fajne i tyle
Ryszki szyszki, szyszki, to Król Albanii!
[21:50] <sylwek> :):)
Szere mere, chociosz teszto, sztara sztasz
[22:15] <gjm> właśnie uzbroiłeś głowice
[22:15] <sylwek> odpalisz?
[22:15] <sylwek> bo ja nie chce
[22:15] <sylwek> :)
[22:17] <sylwek> na SYRie ODPAL
[22:17] <sylwek> sie ucieszą
[22:17] <sylwek> namikołaja dostaną
[22:17] <gjm> nie triggeruj
[22:18] <sylwek> ?
[22:18] <sylwek> pisz po naszemu, tu chyba polski język jest
[22:18] <sylwek> nie ruski nie francuski nie angielski ,,, polski
[22:19] <gjm> ,,,,,,,,,,,
[22:20] <sylwek> a to ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
[22:20] <sylwek> to po naszmu/
[22:20] <sylwek> po naszemu jest?
[22:21] <Ashiren> omelette du fromage
[22:21] <sylwek> acha
[22:27] <sylwek> ISIS
[22:27] <gjm> allahu akbar
[22:28] <sylwek> to akurat nie tak jak napisales
[22:30] <gjm> hakuna matata
[22:31] <sylwek> sie mowi i pisze " przyjdz do granic Polski to zobaczysz allaha wczesniej niz ci sie wydaje"
[22:35] <sylwek> :)
[22:41] <sylwek> i gitara
[22:44] <jacekn> gjm: haha dobry ten link
[22:45] <gjm> wiem
[22:45] <gjm> gdyby nie był dobry, to bym nie wrzucał ;]
[22:51] <jacekn> "virtuti cebulari"
[22:54] <sylwek> gjm: wierzysz zw Boga?
[22:56] <gjm> zw?
[23:00] <Ashiren> happy Caturday
[23:00] <Ashiren> :3 https://i.imgur.com/7LvSgx1.jpg
[23:09] <sylwek> ta
[23:15] <sylwek> to tak czy nie ?
[23:27] <firemark> sylwek: a chuj cie czy wierzy?
[23:30] <d42> ateista nie może być opem :3
[23:30] <sylwek> hhheh
[23:32] <sylwek> cegła do nogi i do SANU
[23:33] <sylwek> niech si e topią
[23:39] <sylwek> a ch,,,,j
[23:41] <sylwek> gjm: napis cos po zydowsku jak ostatnio
[23:41] <sylwek> fajnie sie czytalo
[23:42] <gjm> hare kriszna. będzie ban
[23:42] <sylwek> :)
[23:42] <sylwek> dlaczegóż
Ruchnin szniszkin, osznisz sztisznisz, kurwasz haj
[23:43] <sylwek> nie panikuj
[23:43] <sylwek> jest dobrze
[23:44] <sylwek> gjm: ty agresywny jakis
[23:47] <sylwek> .....................
[23:52] <sylwek> ?
[23:52] <sylwek> co to
[23:52] <sylwek> xchat_get_info called without a valid context.
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ubuntu-chat
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2024-05-13T22:11:19.734556
| 2015-11-27T00:00:00 |
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"Ashiren",
"Dread",
"d42",
"firemark",
"gjm",
"jacekn",
"sylwek"
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"channel": "#ubuntu-pl"
}
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2015-11-27-#ubuntu-kernel
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[19:29] <hallyn_> apw: hey - has there been any effort to push the overlayfs delta upstream? Was there resistance?
[19:30] <apw> hallyn_, not really had a chance to sit down and do that ... i should
[19:33] <hallyn_> apw: ok. was just reminded of it while testing upstream kernel and lots of lxc tests break :)
[19:41] <hallyn_> on the brigh side, cgrou pnamespaces seems to be working pretty well
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ubuntu-chat
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2024-05-13T22:11:19.736720
| 2015-11-27T00:00:00 |
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"authors": [
"apw",
"hallyn_"
],
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}
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2015-11-27-#ubuntu-tr
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[15:45] <gulle> slmlr
[15:45] <gulle> video izlerken ekran kararıp gecici olarak donmakta nedeni nedır acaba
[22:34] <turgay> selam
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ubuntu-chat
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2024-05-13T22:11:19.739444
| 2015-11-27T00:00:00 |
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"authors": [
"gulle",
"turgay"
],
"url": "https://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2015/11/27/%23ubuntu-tr.txt",
"channel": "#ubuntu-tr"
}
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2015-11-27-#ubuntu+1
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[13:21] <BluesKaj> Howdy folks
[16:42] <tsimonq2> o/ BluesKaj
[17:36] <BluesKaj> hi tsimonq2, just got back from winterizing the vehicle
[17:38] <tsimonq2> cool :D
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ubuntu-chat
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2024-05-13T22:11:19.740844
| 2015-11-27T00:00:00 |
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"license": "Public Domain",
"authors": [
"BluesKaj",
"tsimonq2"
],
"url": "https://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2015/11/27/%23ubuntu%2B1.txt",
"channel": "#ubuntu+1"
}
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2015-11-27-#ubuntu-irc
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[14:51] <Emerling> hi, i need help, i loss my cloack irc ubuntu member.
[14:54] <Emerling> https://launchpad.net/~emerling
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ubuntu-chat
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2024-05-13T22:11:19.742763
| 2015-11-27T00:00:00 |
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"license": "Public Domain",
"authors": [
"Emerling"
],
"url": "https://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2015/11/27/%23ubuntu-irc.txt",
"channel": "#ubuntu-irc"
}
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2015-11-27-#maas
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[16:45] <mup> Bug #1520645 opened: Unable to enlist node in gMAAS <MAAS:New> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1520645>
[16:48] <mup> Bug #1520645 changed: Unable to enlist node in gMAAS <MAAS:New> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1520645>
[16:51] <mup> Bug #1520645 opened: Unable to enlist node in gMAAS <MAAS:New> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1520645>
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ubuntu-chat
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2024-05-13T22:11:19.744268
| 2015-11-27T00:00:00 |
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"authors": [
"mup"
],
"url": "https://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2015/11/27/%23maas.txt",
"channel": "#maas"
}
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2015-11-27-#ubuntu-unity
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[13:35] <Mirv> Saviq: hey heads up I plan to potentially land Qt 5.5 next week to xenial. is it ok for you after you've landed the 005? rebuild dances can be arranged too if needed, but just FYI.
[13:36] <Mirv> greyback: same to your direction regarding qtmir/qtubuntu
[13:36] <greyback> Mirv: I was planning a silo today, but can hold off if it would suit you
[13:37] <greyback> would prefer to do the rebuild dance, in case something blocks 5.5
[13:44] <Saviq> Mirv, fine with me
[13:54] <Mirv> greyback: you can have it (after 005 lands of course), no problem, just need to keep in sync who's landing at which point
[13:54] <Mirv> greyback: just don't break anything with Qt 5.5 :)
[13:55] <Mirv> the landing would be Wednesday earliest I'd think
[13:58] <greyback> Mirv: no prob
[14:00] <tsdgeos> Can you guys have a look at https://errors.ubuntu.com/problem/4302c76b26cfe24f872e230af337604c782d809a
[14:00] <tsdgeos> and confirm it looks like we're quitting (__run_exit_handlers) and while quitting the onAccelerometerReading goes to qml land and crashes?
[14:01] <tsdgeos> potentially because we've already quit that part?
[14:06] <greyback> tsdgeos: that's a reasonable theory
[14:08] <tsdgeos> not if only i could reproduce it :D
[14:08] <tsdgeos> pstolowski: did you have any luck reproducing mzanetti's lock?
[14:08] <tsdgeos> pstolowski: i'm wondering if it may not be "new" since https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/unity8/+bug/1511063 is potentially the same?
[14:11] <pstolowski> tsdgeos, no i didn't. diff-updates are the main suspect, though finding out a way to reproduce would be helpful
[14:11] <pstolowski> tsdgeos, ah, he said ota7 hmm
[14:12] <tsdgeos> pstolowski: so it's not diff-updates
[14:12] <tsdgeos> or it's a different bug D:
[14:20] <tsdgeos> mzanetti: so the lockup you get is on the krillin right?
[14:21] <pstolowski> tsdgeos, yes he got it on krillin
[14:23] <mzanetti> tsdgeos, so it only happened in the today scope when I had my self made scope installed
[14:23] <mzanetti> I tried to create a scope at some point that would show up in the news section of the the today scope
[14:24] <mzanetti> but I failed... so I left it half way installed on my device
[14:24] <mzanetti> the results were never showing up
[14:24] <mzanetti> starting with that diffed-updates branch it locked up with that tho
[14:27] <tsdgeos> mzanetti: and you could not repro without that "buggy scope"?
[14:29] <mzanetti> tsdgeos, nope
[14:30] <mzanetti> as soon as I removed that scope, all went back to normal
[14:30] <mzanetti> I still have the code here
[14:30] <mzanetti> will try to reinstall it when I get a chance
[14:53] <tsdgeos> pstolowski: http://paste.ubuntu.com/13526982/
[14:53] <tsdgeos> going to install some more debug packages
[14:53] <tsdgeos> any in particular?
[14:54] <pstolowski> tsdgeos, libunity-scopes, unity-plugin-scopes
[14:55] <pstolowski> tsdgeos, so you reproduced?
[14:55] <tsdgeos> mzanetti: is ↑↑↑ the backtrace you got or never got a bt?
[14:55] <tsdgeos> pstolowski: yep
[14:55] <tsdgeos> pstolowski: i installed the scopes mentioned in the bug i pasted and just horizontally swipped
[14:55] <mzanetti> tsdgeos, no, never got a bt
[14:55] <tsdgeos> happened relatively fast
[14:55] <pstolowski> tsdgeos, ok, will try these scopes too
[14:56] <mzanetti> oh, is there someone else with the same issue now?
[14:56] <tsdgeos> mzanetti: the question is if it's the same issue or not
[14:56] <pstolowski> mzanetti, yes, but his bug is for ota7
[14:56] <mzanetti> right...
[14:56] <tsdgeos> mzanetti: since he had it in ota7
[14:56] <mzanetti> tsdgeos, well, I got it on the device where I had installed the "bad" scope...
[14:57] <mzanetti> lol
[14:57] * mzanetti got confused by scrollback :D
[14:57] <mzanetti> anyhow
[14:57] <mzanetti> it started after landing the diff updates
[14:57] <mzanetti> it did not happen before
[14:57] <mzanetti> even though that "bad" scope was installed since... I guess April
[14:58] <mzanetti> right, when we first supported 3rd party content in aggregators
[14:58] <mzanetti> that's when I tried
[14:59] <tsdgeos> pstolowski: http://paste.ubuntu.com/13527039/
[14:59] <tsdgeos> mterry: isn't it assaul a supermarket day? :D
[15:00] <mterry> tsdgeos, :)
[15:00] <mterry> tsdgeos, it can be fun to people watch today
[15:00] <mterry> tsdgeos, but I've chosen instead to hide inside my apartment :)
[15:00] <mterry> it'll blow over soon
[15:04] <mzanetti> pstolowski, what do I have to do to make the today scope pick up my scope?
[15:04] <mzanetti> pstolowski, I tried to reinstall the bad scope, but according to the log, the today scope doesn't even try to query it
[15:06] <pstolowski> mzanetti, was it queried before? refreshing (via pull-down) should be enough. also just in case check settings of today's scope and make sure you scope is on the list & enabled
[15:06] <mzanetti> pstolowski, it doesn't show up there
[15:08] <pstolowski> mzanetti, and it should be aggregated because it's using keywords?
[15:09] <mzanetti> afaiu, yes
[15:10] <tsdgeos> pstolowski: i've added unity-scopes-shell to https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/unity-scopes-shell/+bug/1511063 . Anything else i should add?
[15:12] <pstolowski> tsdgeos, heh, got it reproduced with the list of scopes from the bug report
[15:12] <tsdgeos> :)
[15:14] <pstolowski> tsdgeos, what is the last message you can see in unity8-dash.log?
[15:14] <pstolowski> (after it freezes)
[15:15] <tsdgeos> i rebooted it now to try to reproduce again
[15:15] <tsdgeos> ^_^
[15:15] <tsdgeos> let me see if i can
[15:16] <pstolowski> for me it froze between 500px and engadget scopes
[15:16] <tsdgeos> pstolowski: http://paste.ubuntu.com/13527207/
[15:16] <pstolowski> tsdgeos, ok. interesting, it's alsmo mixcloudscope for me
[15:19] <pstolowski> yeah, and again mixcloud
[15:26] <pstolowski> tsdgeos, i just made a mistake of unfavoriting majority of the scopes, leaving mixcloud favorited, this gives blank dash on the boot since it's then queried on start :(
[15:26] <tsdgeos> lol
[15:26] <pstolowski> tsdgeos, and yes, removing it from favorites via gsettings fixes it. so it's this scope trigerring the problem
[15:27] <tsdgeos> nice
[15:27] <pstolowski> tsdgeos, opening this scope from manage dash (it's not favorited) also freezes
[15:28] <pstolowski> veeery interesting
[15:28] <tsdgeos> pstolowski: i commented on the bug so the guy can at least use the phone again
[15:28] <pstolowski> tsdgeos, thanks
[15:33] <pstolowski> tsdgeos, this scope doesn't respond to search queries even when using scopes-client cli tool
[15:33] <tsdgeos> ouch :D
[15:33] <pstolowski> i need to talk to michi cause i think we should be timing out after a while
[15:34] <tsdgeos> pstolowski: shouldn't we be doing that in the non main thread anyway?
[15:34] <tsdgeos> i mean if the timeout is a second
[15:34] <tsdgeos> the whole ui would get stuck for a second?
[15:34] <pstolowski> tsdgeos, yes, absolutely, we do it asynchronously, so i;m not sure what's going wrong
[15:35] <tsdgeos> oh :/
[15:35] <pstolowski> tsdgeos, after a while we should get a callback with an error (timeout)
[15:36] <pstolowski> this scope doesn't seem to be available on LP :/
[15:49] <pstolowski> tsdgeos, oh lol
[15:50] <tsdgeos> pstolowski: swhat?
[15:50] <pstolowski> tsdgeos, look at the ini file of mixcloud scope
[15:50] <pstolowski> ScopeRunner=./qtc_device_debughelper.py scope com.ubuntu.developer.boghison.mixcloud_mixcloudscope /usr/lib/arm-linux-gnueabihf/unity-scopes/scoperunner '' %S
[15:51] <pstolowski> tsdgeos, it's not actually really started at all
[15:51] <tsdgeos> i see
[16:11] <pstolowski> mzanetti, i wonder if you scope was misbehaving in similar way^ ?
[16:11] <pstolowski> + r
[16:19] <mzanetti> pstolowski, let me push it
[16:20] <mzanetti> pstolowski, lp:~mzanetti/+junk/swp-scope-with-aggregator-keyword
[16:29] <pstolowski> mzanetti, thanks, trying
[16:45] <tsdgeos> brrrr
[16:45] <tsdgeos> we do get a few valgrind warnings on desktop just by doing ./builddir/src/unity8
[16:45] <tsdgeos> http://paste.ubuntu.com/13528230/
[16:45] <tsdgeos> and
[16:45] <pstolowski> mzanetti, your scopes seems to be working. also no freezing with it
[16:46] <pstolowski> mzanetti, it doesn't appear in News or TOday scopes though
[16:46] <mzanetti> right...
[16:46] <tsdgeos> http://paste.ubuntu.com/13528236/
[16:46] <tsdgeos> second one causes a segfault on close here
[16:46] <mzanetti> and uk left
[16:46] <pstolowski> mzanetti, i'm not sure if the versions i've right now on the phone do support keywords already or not?
[16:47] <mzanetti> pstolowski, I don't know either. I followed the doc on developer.ubuntu.com, but it wouldn't work
[16:47] <mzanetti> so far I thought I'd made a mistake and I gave up too early
[16:48] <pstolowski> mzanetti, need to check with kyleN if they utilize keywords already
[16:50] <mzanetti> pstolowski, https://developer.ubuntu.com/en/scopes/guides/scope-keywords/
[16:50] <mzanetti> I would think yes
[17:20] <pstolowski> mzanetti, i'll ask kyleN next week
[17:20] <pstolowski> eow, see you
[17:20] <mzanetti> kk
[17:20] <mzanetti> o/
[19:13] <lpotter> note to self: do not name classes in libraries exactly the same as ones in Qt base... it will cause confusion and mental pain until you figure it out
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2015-11-27-#ubuntustudio
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[03:39] <nipspinstudio-us> hi all
[06:29] <whitelion> hi there do you knwo where can I find linux drivers for a Radeon R7 240? i need to use gpu but it doesn't work
[07:04] <whitelion> hi there... hey do you know how can I downgrade XServer to 1.10?
[07:53] <whitelion> hi there...what's the best video card I can buy for blender that has no compatibility problems with ubuntu?
[19:58] <Seven_Six_Two> I'm so confused. I have a mpg2 file, with a subtitle and audio stream that I don't want. I am trying to extract the video (without reencoding it) but when I do, the subtitles end up hardcoded???
[19:58] <Seven_Six_Two> ffmpeg -i src.mpg -map 0:2 -vcodec copy dest.mpg
[19:59] <Seven_Six_Two> I get the video without issue, and the audio is gone, which is good. But the subs are still there, and can no longer be disabled like they can on the source
[20:01] <OvenWerk1> Seven_Six_Two: Can you choose an empty subtitle?
[20:04] <Seven_Six_Two> OvenWerk1, in the media player? I'm not sure what you mean.
[20:04] <OvenWerk1> no in the ffmpeg command line using -sn
[20:07] <OvenWerk1> https://ffmpeg.org/ffmpeg.html#toc-Subtitle-options
[20:08] <OvenWerk1> https://ffmpeg.org/ffmpeg.html#Subtitle-options might be better
[20:09] <Seven_Six_Two> OvenWerk1, oh I see. I didn't see that option on the man page. thanks! I'll give that a shot
[20:24] <Seven_Six_Two> I accidentally converted a video in the same folder as an srt file, and my stupid program hardcoded them. Sorry to waste your time.
[20:24] <Seven_Six_Two> it was an earlier step that the mistake happened.
[20:28] <OvenWerk1> I wouldn't know... video is not one of my strong areas. :) Glad you have it figured.
[22:59] <hispeed67> quick question. plugged in a 32" tv via HDMI on my laptop. how do i initialize the display?
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"Seven_Six_Two",
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[03:12] <waltman> MutantTurkey: http://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=3099
[10:20] <rmg51> Morning
[13:18] <teddy-dbear> Morning peoples, critters and everything else
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"license": "Public Domain",
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"teddy-dbear",
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